#1 [00:01] <Kealper> he's being quite annoying in pm...if he would have just left it alone, he would have been unbanned, but now he's just QQing
#2 [00:01] <Diablothein> pastebin it!
#3 [00:01] <xales> lol
#4 [00:01] <xales> pastebin
#5 [00:01] <xales> yes
#6 [00:01] <xales> DO IT
#7 [00:02] <Kealper> lol
#8 [00:03] <xales> DO. IT
#9 [00:03] <xales> also, /set autolog on
#10 [00:03] <xales> it will log all irc stuff to ~/irclogs
#11 [00:03] <xales> very helpful
#12 [00:03] <xales> not a log of space used
#13 [00:03] <xales> lot*
#14 [00:04] <Kealper> yea i was looking at enabing logging but w/e
#15 [00:04] <Kealper> i probably should though
#16 [00:04] <xales> its 1 command
#17 [00:04] <xales> :)
#18 [00:04] <xales> format is ~/irclogs/network/nameorchannel.log
#19 [00:05] <xales> pms go to (nick).log, channel goes to #channel.log
#20 [00:05] * Kealper sighs and enables it -.-
#20 [00:05] <xales> now
#21 [00:05] <xales> to pastebin those PMs
#22 [00:05] <xales> :)
#23 [00:05] * xales begs for some laughs
#23 [00:06] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/iPb0ETdr get it while it's hot, expires in 10
#24 [00:06] <xales> lol
#25 [00:07] <xales> thanks kealpy
#26 [00:08] <xales> so Kealper
#27 [00:08] <xales> I need an opinion from you
#28 [00:09] <Kealper> hmm?
#29 [00:09] <xales> I believe I explained this before, but
#30 [00:10] <xales> I have 2 hard drives, sda and sdb. sda is a raptor, and only 32gb (with windows and core programs only). sdb is 2TB, and has everything else
#31 [00:10] <xales> I want to install Arch on this computer, however
#32 [00:10] <xales> last time I resized an NTFS partition, it did it wrong
#33 [00:10] <xales> and I spent 4 hours working on rewriting the partition table by hand
#34 [00:10] <xales> just to get windows to boot
#35 [00:11] <xales> at which point I just gave up
#36 [00:11] <xales> this was almost a year ago
#37 [00:11] <xales> I'm debating trying again
#38 [00:11] <Diablothein> xales, you take a linux disc, boot it from the disc, and you use it to nuke the HDD.
#39 [00:11] <Diablothein> Problem solved.
#40 [00:11] <Kealper> lol
#41 [00:12] <Diablothein> Srsly, I have a nuke HDD button set up in case of uberemergency
#42 [00:12] <xales> I have a nuke hdd disk
#43 [00:12] <xales> >.>
#44 [00:12] <xales> I do need to use windows though
#45 [00:12] <xales> for games :/
#46 [00:12] <xales> and the occasion when I need to write something for windows
#47 [00:13] <Diablothein> Well, you can nuke it, it'll wipe the HDD empty, and you can reset everything how I want.
#48 [00:13] <dopeghoti> gparted works fine for resizing partitions
#49 [00:13] <Diablothein> XD
#50 [00:13] <Diablothein> You want.
#51 [00:13] <Diablothein> (Lack of sleep already)
#52 [00:13] <xales> I used gparted dopeghoti
#53 [00:13] <xales> and it blew up the partition table
#54 [00:13] <dopeghoti> just don't whack the PC with a rare earth magnet-studded hammer when you do it
#55 [00:13] <dopeghoti> (did you have Dynamic Disks?)
#56 [00:13] <xales> "oops, lets just resize this partition but not update the size in the partition table. COOL!"
#57 [00:13] <xales> nope
#58 [00:13] <xales> its a known but
#59 [00:13] <xales> bug*
#60 [00:14] <xales> http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13777
#61 [00:15] <Diablothein> administration, disk utility.
#62 [00:15] <xales> I have a gparted livecd :(
#63 [00:16] <xales> I just really don't want to have to manually edit partitions again, because I forgot how I did it in the first place
#64 [00:16] <xales> >.>
#65 [00:16] <Diablothein> Speaking of which, I need to remove some crap from my usb drive, like the unnecessary partition they make for crapware.
#66 [00:16] <xales> :O
#67 [00:16] <xales> I love those things
#68 [00:16] <xales> the crapware partitions
#69 [00:16] <Diablothein> ...
#70 [00:16] <Diablothein> they eat space.
#71 [00:16] <xales> they make this pretty eject button
#72 [00:17] <xales> and they don't eject unless you press that button, half of the time
#73 [00:17] <xales> and to top it off, they only work on Window
#74 [00:17] <xales> s
#75 [00:17] <xales> isn't it LOVELY
#76 [00:17] <Diablothein> I have a 1 gb drive, and 300 mb of it is somehow the crapware partition
#77 [00:17] <xales> they sell 4gb drives for $10 :/
#78 [00:18] <Diablothein> Mine is old, and I'm out of cash
#79 [00:18] <Diablothein> If I really wanted some more storage space, I'd convert one of the few useless HDDs I have into a portable HDD
#80 [00:25] <dopeghoti> xales: Linux, properly, won't let you eject a CD if it's currently mounted
#81 [00:25] <dopeghoti> you have to unmount before the eject button is reenabled.
#82 [00:25] <tonkatim420> xales, thanks for all the help !!
#83 [00:26] <xales> no problem
#84 [00:26] <xales> dopeghoti: I'm talking about windoze
#85 [00:26] <xales> can't eject the in-use crapware drive
#86 [00:26] <xales> because its IN USE
#87 [00:27] <dopeghoti> that's what fdisk is for :p
#88 [00:27] <xales> and I counter your fdisk with a lazy
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#92 [00:29] <The__Whovian> Hi there, could anyone help me?
#93 [00:30] <xales> what do you need help with?
#94 [00:30] <The__Whovian> I'm trying to host a server for a few friends, and for some reason, it's not working too well.
#95 [00:30] <The__Whovian> or rather, at all.
#96 [00:30] <dopeghoti> just keep using the TARDIS 'till you're in a timeline thatworks with your needs
#97 [00:30] <The__Whovian> heh, I wish.
#98 [00:31] <xales> where do you get stuck with the server?
#99 [00:31] <lemon-rev> The__Whovian whats the ip your useing for your friends
#100 [00:31] <Diablothein> Reverend Lemon is on the case.
#101 [00:31] <lemon-rev> lol
#102 [00:31] <lemon-rev> hahahahhaha
#103 [00:31] <Diablothein> Anyways, gnight.
#104 [00:31] <lemon-rev> never be a reverend i can tell you
#105 [00:31] <lemon-rev> lol
#106 [00:31] <lemon-rev> night diablo
#107 [00:31] <dopeghoti> huh, I always parsed it as 'revision' and had been meaning to ask which one.
#108 [00:31] <The__Whovian> xales: the port isn't forwarding... and I've tried EVERYthing.
#109 [00:32] <Diablothein> Big day tomorrow, school, then going to start my first day at Greyskull Power Company!
#110 [00:32] <xales> when you say its not forwarding, do you mean they can't connect or it gives you an error when you try to add the port forward
#111 [00:32] <The__Whovian> I add the port forward (25565, correct?), but it's not changing anything.
#112 [00:32] <xales> what IP are your friends trying to use to connect
#113 [00:33] <The__Whovian> and when I check to see if the port is open (via several different websites), it still says that it's closed.
#114 [00:33] <The__Whovian> well, right now, I can't even connect to myself, but, 24.20.224.199
#115 [00:33] <lemon-rev> !check 24.20.224.199
#116 [00:33] <xales> and when you added the port forward, what IP did you forward it to?
#117 [00:33] <The__Whovian> an internal IP.
#118 [00:34] <xales> which is?
#119 [00:34] <The__Whovian> forwarded port 25565 to IP 192.168.1.15 (static IP on the host computer)
#120 [00:34] <xales> does the host computer have a firewall?
#121 [00:34] <Diablothein> Does the host computer have an internet connection?
#122 [00:34] <The__Whovian> yes...
#123 [00:34] <The__Whovian> and xales no
#124 [00:35] <The__Whovian> router and PC firewalls are off
#125 [00:35] <xales> in the server.properties
#126 [00:35] <xales> the ip line
#127 [00:35] <xales> what does it say
#128 [00:35] <Diablothein> The__Whovian, Biggest question: Are you using a Linksys router?
#129 [00:36] <The__Whovian> yes.
#130 [00:36] <The__Whovian> and there's nothing on the server-ip line
#131 [00:36] <Diablothein> There's your problem.
#132 [00:36] <xales> whats wrong with linksys routers these days?
#133 [00:36] <Diablothein> Linksys routers are... well, for lack of a better word: Linksys
#134 [00:36] <xales> I have an old one that forwards fine
#135 [00:36] <xales> well, not old
#136 [00:36] <The__Whovian> it's a newer one.
#137 [00:36] <xales> but its not an MI424WR
#138 [00:36] <Diablothein> xales, you tell me, after a "mandatory" firmware update, my network got nuked.
#139 [00:37] <xales> lol
#140 [00:37] <xales> what model?
#141 [00:37] <Diablothein> had to nuke the router itself and rebuild it :|
#142 [00:37] <Diablothein> WRT310N
#143 [00:37] <xales> :(
#144 [00:37] <The__Whovian> linksys 120n
#145 [00:37] <The__Whovian> is mine.
#146 [00:38] <Kealper> see if you can spot the megalith insanely huge project that is still underway megalith
#147 [00:38] <Kealper> fail?
#148 [00:38] <The__Whovian> and oh my god this tech support guy is an idiot
#149 [00:38] <Kealper> oh....i know...i had megalith in my clipboard -.-
#150 [00:38] <Kealper> http://i.min.us/idUGgk.png
#151 [00:39] <The__Whovian> should I switch routers?
#152 [00:39] <Kealper> i've got an old WRT54G and it works like a charm
#153 [00:39] <The__Whovian> I actually have another handy.
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#155 [00:40] <xales> that may help
#156 [00:40] <xales> Linksys anything is garbage
#157 [00:40] <Kealper> xales: did you check out that cart image?
#158 [00:40] <xales> indeed
#159 [00:40] <xales> what am I looking for?
#160 [00:40] <Kealper> the WRT54G series were awesome, the new ones are garbage though
#161 [00:40] <KillSpammer> Hai.
#162 [00:40] <Kealper> straight lines
#163 [00:41] <Kealper> easiest to notice if you zoom all the way out lol
#164 [00:41] <KillSpammer> If anyone needs minecraft help say my name
#165 [00:41] <Kealper> and hello KillSpammer
#166 [00:41] <KillSpammer> Ohai
#167 [00:41] <KillSpammer> Unban early?
#168 [00:42] <Diablothein> /ban Mibbit@CPE-139-168-162-145.lns10.woo.bigpond.net.au
#169 [00:42] <Diablothein> ...
#170 [00:42] <KillSpammer> Hahaha...
#171 [00:42] <Diablothein> Damn, I was hoping that would work.
#172 [00:42] <Kealper> i unbanned you right after you ragequit
#173 [00:42] <KillSpammer> Ragequit?
#174 [00:42] <Diablothein> rrrrragequit
#175 [00:42] * Diablothein ragequits
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#176 [00:42] <KillSpammer> No i went to play CS:S on another computer
#177 [00:42] <KillSpammer> Then i got bored
#178 [00:43] <KillSpammer> And came back.
#179 [00:43] <KillSpammer> Epic - http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
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#182 [00:43] <mib_mlihqm> hello
#183 [00:43] <mib_mlihqm> can someone help me
#184 [00:43] <Diablothein> XD
#185 [00:43] <Diablothein> g'mornin!
#186 [00:43] <dopeghoti> mib again eh?
#187 [00:44] <Kealper> oh gosh
#188 [00:44] <KillSpammer> Whats your problem?
#189 [00:44] <mib_mlihqm> KillSpammer i remember your name can you help me plz
#190 [00:44] <KillSpammer> Sure?
#191 [00:44] <mib_mlihqm> im trying to run a server for my friends but it dont work
#192 [00:44] <KillSpammer> Why does everyone know my name :S
#193 [00:44] <KillSpammer> <-- Ninja at servers
#194 [00:44] <KillSpammer> Ok
#195 [00:45] <KillSpammer> So whats exactly wrong?
#196 [00:45] <mib_mlihqm> so i run the .exe program
#197 [00:45] <mib_mlihqm> and then this box with text in it shows up
#198 [00:45] <mib_mlihqm> so i guess its working
#199 [00:45] <mib_mlihqm> when i give my friend my ip he can no connct
#200 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Have you port fowarded?
#201 [00:45] <mib_mlihqm> port forwarded?
#202 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Oh noez
#203 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Ok
#204 [00:45] <KillSpammer> Well
#205 [00:46] <KillSpammer> You need to open a port for it to be Online
#206 [00:46] <KillSpammer> Or
#207 [00:46] <KillSpammer> You can go with hamachi
#208 [00:46] <KillSpammer> Which is a tunneling program
#209 [00:46] <KillSpammer> You create a network on it
#210 [00:46] <KillSpammer> And get all your friends to join that network
#211 [00:46] <KillSpammer> Do you want to do that?
#212 [00:46] <mib_mlihqm> port forward sounds easier
#213 [00:46] <mib_mlihqm> can you tell me how to do it
#214 [00:46] <KillSpammer> Actually its not.
#215 [00:46] <KillSpammer> But ok.
#216 [00:46] <KillSpammer> You have a router rightr?
#217 [00:47] <dopeghoti> KillSpammer: could you PLEASE stop using \n as punctuation‽
#218 [00:47] <mib_mlihqm> i have a modem i plug my pc into
#219 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Sorry what dopeghoti?
#220 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Whats /n lol
#221 [00:47] <mib_mlihqm> do i need to use norton antifirewall to do port forward? someone told me i did
#222 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Well not really...
#223 [00:47] <KillSpammer> But first of all
#224 [00:47] <xales> \n = newline
#225 [00:47] <KillSpammer> Your on windows?
#226 [00:48] <mib_mlihqm> windows?
#227 [00:48] <KillSpammer> Like windows xp
#228 [00:48] <KillSpammer> Or windows 7
#229 [00:48] <mib_mlihqm> oh, no. i use dell
#230 [00:48] <KillSpammer> ...
#231 [00:48] <KillSpammer> Ok i'm going to assume you have windows.
#232 [00:48] <KillSpammer> Ok
#233 [00:48] <Kealper> is your start button green or blue?
#234 [00:48] <mib_mlihqm> umm let me check
#235 [00:48] <mib_mlihqm> where is the start button
#236 [00:49] <KillSpammer> bottom left
#237 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Normally
#238 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Where you open all your stuff from
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#240 [00:49] <mib_mlihqm> the blue orb?
#241 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Yep
#242 [00:49] <KillSpammer> He's got windows 7
#243 [00:49] <KillSpammer> I think..
#244 [00:49] <dopeghoti> or Vista.
#245 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Ok
#246 [00:49] <KillSpammer> Click on it
#247 [00:49] <mib_mlihqm> i clicked but it goes away when i come back to chat
#248 [00:49] <KillSpammer> And goto search and type in "cmd"
#249 [00:49] <mib_mlihqm> ok ill do this
#250 [00:50] <mib_mlihqm> a dos box came up
#251 [00:50] <KillSpammer> Then open the application
#252 [00:50] <KillSpammer> Yep
#253 [00:50] <KillSpammer> Ok type in ipconfig
#254 [00:50] <mib_mlihqm> it say command not found
#255 [00:50] <mib_mlihqm> oh sorry i type it wrong
#256 [00:50] <mib_mlihqm> ok i see my ip here like i give to my friend
#257 [00:50] <KillSpammer> Ok look for this
#258 [00:50] <KillSpammer> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
#259 [00:50] <Diablothein> Kealper, set +m
#260 [00:51] <KillSpammer> I suck at IRC sorry :)
#261 [00:51] <mib_mlihqm> i see
#262 [00:51] <KillSpammer> Now look for the default gateway under that header
#263 [00:51] <Kealper> although Kill does press enter a lot, he IS helping someone :?
#264 [00:51] <Kealper> :/*
#265 [00:51] <mib_mlihqm> default gateway is 10.10.1.1
#266 [00:51] <KillSpammer> Open a new internet explorer
#267 [00:51] <dopeghoti> Kealper: he still needs to learn this
#268 [00:51] <mib_mlihqm> ok opened
#269 [00:51] <KillSpammer> And type that in
#270 [00:52] <mib_mlihqm> it ask for username and password
#271 [00:52] <KillSpammer> Type in Admin as user
#272 [00:52] <KillSpammer> Nothing as password
#273 [00:52] * Kealper sits back and strokes his moustache sagely
#273 [00:52] * Diablothein sits back and smokes his pipe sagely
#273 [00:52] <mib_mlihqm> im at a control panel
#274 [00:52] <Diablothein> My moustache and beard are gone for a while.
#275 [00:52] <KillSpammer> Ok
#276 [00:52] * dopeghoti sits back and exudes sagacity.
#276 [00:52] <KillSpammer> I have no idea what router you have
#277 [00:52] <KillSpammer> Can you tell me the name?
#278 [00:53] <mib_mlihqm> it says linksys
#279 [00:53] <Diablothein> \n
#280 [00:53] <KillSpammer> Does it have a number?
#281 [00:53] <mib_mlihqm> no just linksys
#282 [00:53] <Kealper> Diablothein: that's a programing joke, it does not actually do something in ric lol
#283 [00:53] <Kealper> irc*
#284 [00:53] <xales> it does actually
#285 [00:53] <xales> you just can't send it like that
#286 [00:53] <Diablothein> I know
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#288 [00:54] <Kealper> xales: i meant by just typing it lol
#289 [00:54] <xales> Kealper: /raw \n
#290 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Ok mib
#291 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Does it have applications and gaming?
#292 [00:54] <mib_mlihqm> yes
#293 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Click that
#294 [00:54] <mib_mlihqm> ok i am there
#295 [00:54] <dopeghoti> it's not a joke, it's the conventional way of expressing $NEWLINE without actually entering one
#296 [00:54] <KillSpammer> For the first one
#297 [00:54] <KillSpammer> Put in Minecraft as the application
#298 [00:55] <mib_mlihqm> i already see a minecraft in here
#299 [00:55] <mib_mlihqm> it says 25565 to 25565 to my ip
#300 [00:55] <Kealper> dopeghoti: i meant about telling Kill to stop typing \n so much lol
#301 [00:55] <Kealper> well, using \n as punctuation
#302 [00:55] <KillSpammer> I'm not typing \n at all
#303 [00:55] <KillSpammer> Your already port fowarded then :S
#304 [00:55] <Diablothein> You don't get it.
#305 [00:55] <KillSpammer> I don't
#306 [00:56] <Diablothein> mv KillSpammer /dev/null
#307 [00:56] <KillSpammer> I have little knowledge of IRC
#308 [00:56] <mib_mlihqm> um ok
#309 [00:56] <KillSpammer> Ok
#310 [00:56] <KillSpammer> Its with your firewall
#311 [00:56] <dopeghoti> {stop,doing,this}
#312 [00:56] <dopeghoti> hmm, taht didn't work
#313 [00:56] <mib_mlihqm> if i port forwarded already wat do i do to get friend connected
#314 [00:56] <KillSpammer> What firewall do you use?
#315 [00:56] <KillSpammer> Stop doing what :)
#316 [00:56] <mib_mlihqm> i have norton anti-firewall i think is the name
#317 [00:56] <dopeghoti> typing
#318 [00:56] <dopeghoti> things
#319 [00:56] <dopeghoti> on
#320 [00:56] <dopeghoti> several
#321 [00:56] <dopeghoti> annoying
#322 [00:56] <Diablothein> lines
#323 [00:56] <dopeghoti> lines
#324 [00:56] <xales> lines
#325 [00:56] <xales> lines
#326 [00:56] <xales> lines
#327 [00:56] <xales> lines
#328 [00:56] <Diablothein> lines
#329 [00:56] <Diablothein> XD
#330 [00:56] <KillSpammer> Yeah...
#331 [00:56] <KillSpammer> No.
#332 [00:56] <Kealper> blargh!
#333 [00:56] <KillSpammer> I can't do that :)
#334 [00:57] <KillSpammer> I'll do it after i finish helping
#335 [00:57] <Diablothein> Yes, you can, it's as simple as not pressing the enter key so repeatedly.
#336 [00:57] <mib_mlihqm> um can someone help me
#337 [00:57] <KillSpammer> I am...
#338 [00:57] <KillSpammer> Ok
#339 [00:57] <mib_mlihqm> what do i do now
#340 [00:57] <KillSpammer> I haven't used norton before
#341 [00:57] <KillSpammer> Let me google :)
#342 [00:57] <mib_mlihqm> well i only have it installed i set it not to run because i was told it make me slow on using internet
#343 [00:58] <KillSpammer> Oh ok...
#344 [00:58] <KillSpammer> So possibly its windows firewall
#345 [00:58] <KillSpammer> Ok
#346 [00:58] <dopeghoti> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/10/11/
#347 [00:59] <KillSpammer> Its easier if you just use Hamachi
#348 [00:59] <mib_mlihqm> can u just do something for me
#349 [00:59] <mib_mlihqm> can u just see if my server works
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#351 [00:59] <mib_mlihqm> try connect
#352 [00:59] <mib_mlihqm> 10.10.1.4
#353 [00:59] <mib_mlihqm> that is my ip
#354 [01:00] <KillSpammer> Actually no...
#355 [01:00] <KillSpammer> I think
#356 [01:00] <mib_mlihqm> no u dont want to help me
#357 [01:00] <mib_mlihqm> ?????????
#358 [01:00] <Kealper> mib_mlihqm: http://whatismyip.com
#359 [01:00] <KillSpammer> Thats not your IP
#360 [01:00] <KillSpammer> I was about to do that :)
#361 [01:00] <mib_mlihqm> y does that tell me very different ip
#362 [01:00] <KillSpammer> Tell us what you get from there.
#363 [01:00] <KillSpammer> Thats not your ip.
#364 [01:01] <KillSpammer> That you gave me
#365 [01:01] <KillSpammer> The number you get from that website is your IP
#366 [01:01] <KillSpammer> What is it?
#367 [01:01] <dopeghoti> mib_mlihqm: 10.x.x.x, like 192.168.x.x and 169.254.x.x, are private LAN IP address ranges
#368 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> oh ok
#369 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> it is
#370 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> 184.82.131.50
#371 [01:01] <xales> !check 184.82.131.50
#372 [01:01] <Diablothein> done
#373 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> oh so
#374 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> was i using
#375 [01:01] <mib_mlihqm> wrong ip all time?
#376 [01:01] <Diablothein> do we have a statserv?
#377 [01:01] <KillSpammer> Yeah
#378 [01:01] <KillSpammer> Uhh
#379 [01:02] <KillSpammer> Why did i connect to a server full of people?
#380 [01:02] <KillSpammer> Lol
#381 [01:02] <xales> well
#382 [01:02] <xales> because I was having some fun
#383 [01:02] <xales> that was me
#384 [01:02] <xales> that was what we get in this channel
#385 [01:02] <xales> if you want to help, go ahead :D
#386 [01:03] <KillSpammer> ...
#387 [01:03] <xales> but its gets headache when there are real people like that on a daily basis
#388 [01:03] <Kealper> that actually was a perfect simulation of this place every day lol
#389 [01:03] <xales> I like how I fooled dopeghoti and Diablothein
#390 [01:03] <xales> <3
#391 [01:03] <KillSpammer> Lol...
#392 [01:03] <KillSpammer> Is that your server?
#393 [01:04] <xales> friend's server
#394 [01:04] <dopeghoti> wait, so #minecrafthelp gets secret shoppers now?
#395 [01:04] <xales> just me
#396 [01:04] * dopeghoti demands a paycheck :)
#396 [01:04] <xales> :)
#397 [01:04] * xales gives dopeghoti a good beating, his day's pay
#397 [01:04] <Kealper> lol
#398 [01:04] <dopeghoti> Woohoo! Lawsuit money!
#399 [01:05] <dopeghoti> \o/
#400 [01:05] <KillSpammer> I am uber confused
#401 [01:05] <xales> you signed the waiver dopeghoti
#402 [01:05] <xales> >:D
#403 [01:05] <xales> KillSpammer: I was testing you
#404 [01:05] <dopeghoti> :/
#405 [01:05] <xales> the "mib" was actually me
#406 [01:05] <dopeghoti> damned paperwork
#407 [01:05] <KillSpammer> Did i pass?
#408 [01:05] <KillSpammer> I know it was you
#409 [01:05] <xales> pretending to be what we normally get in this channel
#410 [01:05] <KillSpammer> Confused on why you did it.
#411 [01:05] <KillSpammer> Well
#412 [01:05] <Kealper> well, aside from a few stumbles, i'd say you were not too bad....
#413 [01:05] <KillSpammer> I have a recommendation for great helping music
#414 [01:05] <KillSpammer> http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
#415 [01:06] <KillSpammer> Lol
#416 [01:06] <xales> It was a warning - most people who get help here are just like that, and often more than 1 at once
#417 [01:06] <xales> so if you really want to stay here and help, I have 2 suggestions
#418 [01:06] <xales> 1: Get a better client (mibbit is a piece of shit)
#419 [01:06] <xales> and 2: keep aspirin near computer
#420 [01:06] <KillSpammer> Lol
#421 [01:06] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#422 [01:06] <KillSpammer> What client do you suggest...
#423 [01:06] <dopeghoti> and yes, get irssi
#424 [01:07] <dopeghoti> or xchat
#425 [01:07] <xales> irssi, on windows?
#426 [01:07] <xales> bad bad idea
#427 [01:07] <Kealper> xales: possible.
#428 [01:07] <xales> try xchat
#429 [01:07] <Kealper> lol
#430 [01:07] * dopeghoti points to 'or xchat'
#430 [01:07] <Diablothein> Don't forget 3: less enter.
#431 [01:07] * Diablothein raises his hand
#431 [01:07] <xales> Diablothein: I'm worse than that sometime
#432 [01:07] <Diablothein> I use XChat, on linux :d
#433 [01:07] <KillSpammer> Thats gonna be hard.
#434 [01:07] <Diablothein> s
#435 [01:07] <Diablothein> t
#436 [01:07] <Diablothein> f
#437 [01:07] <Diablothein> u
#438 [01:07] <Diablothein> xales
#439 [01:07] <xales> m
#440 [01:07] <xales> a
#441 [01:07] <xales> k
#442 [01:07] <xales> e
#443 [01:07] <xales> m
#444 [01:07] <xales> e
#445 [01:07] <xales> d
#446 [01:07] <xales> i
#447 [01:07] <dopeghoti> you aren't precisely helping..
#448 [01:07] <xales> a
#449 [01:07] <Diablothein> mv xales /dev/null
#450 [01:07] <xales> etcetcetc
#451 [01:08] <Diablothein> :D
#452 [01:08] <KillSpammer> ...
#453 [01:08] <Kealper> i'd +m the channel for a few sec but that would do no good
#454 [01:08] <xales> dd if=/dev/urandom of=diablothein
#455 [01:08] <KillSpammer> Brb
#456 [01:08] <KillSpammer> Reconnecting on xchat
#457 [01:08] <Diablothein> bish
#458 [01:08] <Diablothein> g'mornin everyone
#459 [01:08] <xales> hax
#460 [01:08] <dopeghoti> salut.
#461 [01:08] <xales> its not morning
#462 [01:08] <xales> 1am :O
#463 [01:08] <dopeghoti> xales: is too
#464 [01:08] <lemon-rev> wtf you said night like 20 mins ago diablo
#465 [01:08] <lemon-rev> lol
#466 [01:08] <xales> /ctcp xales TIME
#467 [01:08] <dopeghoti> it's morning on half the planet; just round up.
#468 [01:09] <Diablothein> Shuddup Reverend
#469 [01:09] <xales> do it
#470 [01:09] <lemon-rev> hahahahhahaa
#471 [01:09] <lemon-rev> yellow blessings on you all
#472 [01:09] <lemon-rev> lol
#473 [01:10] <xales> so
#474 [01:10] <xales> I will be leaving soon
#475 [01:10] <xales> as it is 1am :(
#476 [01:11] <xales> lol
#477 [01:11] <xales> 01:04:23 < ShadowBot> <Killspammer> Owners friend is evil.
#478 [01:11] * KillSpammer [KillSpammer@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#479 [01:11] <lemon-rev> you have had it tough there xales you should be pleased
#480 [01:11] <xales> had it tough where exactly?
#481 [01:11] <KillSpammer> Ok
#482 [01:11] <KillSpammer> Back yay!
#483 [01:11] <xales> welcome back KillSpammer
#484 [01:11] <xales> also
#485 [01:11] <xales> 01:04:23 < ShadowBot> <Killspammer> Owners friend is evil.
#486 [01:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#487 [01:11] <xales> <3
#488 [01:11] <KillSpammer> Lol
#489 [01:11] <lemon-rev> dealing with eveyone yea :P
#490 [01:11] <lemon-rev> but you get that
#491 [01:11] <xales> ah yes
#492 [01:11] <xales> one of em asked if I was paid enough
#493 [01:12] <KillSpammer> Did anyone say anything after that?
#494 [01:12] <xales> he was shocked when I said we are volunteers
#495 [01:12] <xales> KillSpammer: yes
#496 [01:12] <lemon-rev> what you get paid to help lol
#497 [01:12] <xales> nothing about you/me though, just their minecrafty talk
#498 [01:12] <xales> lemon-rev: lol, nothing :/
#499 [01:12] <xales> KillSpammer: also, type xa<TAB>
#500 [01:12] <xales> tab completes a name
#501 [01:12] <xales> if you start typing it
#502 [01:12] <KillSpammer> Awesome
#503 [01:12] <KillSpammer> Better than taking 30 seconds to type mib
#504 [01:12] <KillSpammer> Lol
#505 [01:13] <xales> indeed
#506 [01:13] <xales> lol
#507 [01:13] <KillSpammer> The full name when i was using /whois
#508 [01:13] <xales> whats a whois show for a mibbit anyway? I don't even remember
#509 [01:13] <KillSpammer> Back to leveling my rotMG
#510 [01:13] <KillSpammer> charcter
#511 [01:13] <KillSpammer> Big annoying message kind of thing
#512 [01:14] <xales> wait what?
#513 [01:14] <KillSpammer> Mwhaha
#514 [01:14] <xales> where does whois show large messages :/
#515 [01:14] <KillSpammer> I joined all your channel cept #minecraft
#516 [01:14] <KillSpammer> Its not a message
#517 [01:14] <KillSpammer> Kind of a picture
#518 [01:14] <xales> the motd?
#519 [01:14] <Kealper> xales: huh?
#520 [01:14] <KillSpammer> Its confused.
#521 [01:15] <xales> thats /motd not /whois but anyway
#522 [01:15] <KillSpammer> I mean
#523 [01:15] <KillSpammer> Its hard to explain.
#524 [01:15] <xales> your not in all my channels
#525 [01:15] <xales> some are set to +s and don't show in that list
#526 [01:15] <Kealper> xales: :O i wanna be in the party
#527 [01:15] <KillSpammer> Damn!
#528 [01:15] <xales> :/
#529 [01:16] <KillSpammer> I'm in Scraft!
#530 [01:16] <xales> thats not the secret one
#531 [01:16] <xales> theres several secret one
#532 [01:16] <xales> +s being secret, and secret meaning doesn't show on any list
#533 [01:18] <lemon-rev> love it when big deposit of coal comes along it stuffs up my perfect sqare mine thats ever expanding
#534 [01:18] <lemon-rev> lol
#535 [01:18] <KillSpammer> So
#536 [01:19] <dopeghoti> lemon-rev: that just means the square gets bigger
#537 [01:19] <KillSpammer> Do we have rolls and bets to see who takes the next panicee
#538 [01:19] <dopeghoti> (or that you need to smelt more concrete)
#539 [01:19] <xales> panicee?
#540 [01:19] * Wyld [Wyld@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#541 [01:19] <KillSpammer> Yes
#542 [01:19] <dopeghoti> panicee (n) one who panics for a panicer?
#543 [01:19] <lemon-rev> hm, i hate smelting pebbles its pointless
#544 [01:19] <KillSpammer> A person who comes in and is like
#545 [01:19] <lemon-rev> lol
#546 [01:19] <KillSpammer> OMG MY FRIEND CAN"TZ CONNECT TO MAH SERV!
#547 [01:19] <KillSpammer> SOMON HALP
#548 [01:20] <KillSpammer> Hey look its Wyld
#549 [01:20] <xales> wouldn't they be the panicker and we be the panicees?
#550 [01:20] <KillSpammer> Oh yeah...
#551 [01:20] <xales> lol
#552 [01:20] <Wyld> It is!
#553 [01:20] <Wyld> Have we met?
#554 [01:20] <KillSpammer> No...
#555 [01:20] <dopeghoti> you don't see many panicees because panicers don't generally think to hire them.
#556 [01:20] <Wyld> oh, okay!
#557 [01:20] <KillSpammer> Twitter/Egg
#558 [01:20] <KillSpammer> You eating a USB?
#559 [01:21] <KillSpammer> Notch and Meat boy getting married?
#560 [01:21] <KillSpammer> Lol?
#561 [01:21] <xales> lol
#562 [01:21] <KillSpammer> Xales
#563 [01:22] <xales> ?
#564 [01:22] <KillSpammer> Are you those people who keep coming to ask for my help?
#565 [01:22] <xales> no
#566 [01:22] <KillSpammer> It only ever happens in #mcchatter
#567 [01:22] <KillSpammer> People are like
#568 [01:22] <xales> I don't go in there, lol
#569 [01:22] <KillSpammer> I need help with something
#570 [01:22] <KillSpammer> Oh KillSpammer can you help me?
#571 [01:22] <xales> I stopped going in there a while ago
#572 [01:22] <KillSpammer> can XChat beep?
#573 [01:22] <xales> yes
#574 [01:22] <dopeghoti> Yes, this entire channel is populated with people who have nothing better to to than to pretend to need assistance.
#575 [01:22] <xales> and idle, like me! :O
#576 [01:23] <xales> I'm almost at 150 days of uptme
#577 [01:23] <xales> only 8 more days
#578 [01:23] <Kealper> should i post a sysinfo? lol
#579 [01:23] <dopeghoti> please don't.
#580 [01:23] <KillSpammer> Say my name :)
#581 [01:23] <Kealper> KillSpammer:
#582 [01:23] <dopeghoti> "My name."
#583 [01:23] <KillSpammer> :S
#584 [01:23] <KillSpammer> again
#585 [01:23] <KillSpammer> Sound was off :S
#586 [01:23] <Kealper> lol dope
#587 [01:24] <Kealper> KillSpammer:
#588 [01:24] <xales> 01:24:00 up 142 days, 6:10, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
#589 [01:24] <KillSpammer> Yay beep!
#590 [01:24] <KillSpammer> And annoying flash!
#591 [01:24] <dopeghoti> xales: not big on keeping with the latest kernel, eh?
#592 [01:25] <xales> VPS
#593 [01:25] <Kealper> if you think that's bad.....lol gimme a sec
#594 [01:25] <xales> can't use latest
#595 [01:25] <xales> gotta wait for provider to provide a new one
#596 [01:25] <xales> :/
#597 [01:25] <xales> Kealper: it was 500-some days before I rebooted for a free ram upgrade, lol
#598 [01:25] <xales> also, we have 111 non-status users. /amused
#599 [01:25] <xales> (119 nicks (@3 %0 +5 111))
#600 [01:26] <Kealper> lol
#601 [01:26] <Kealper> $1 says i break screen in a sec
#602 [01:26] <xales> what are you trying to do
#603 [01:26] <xales> kealpy
#604 [01:26] <Kealper> yea...broke that pretty good
#605 [01:27] <xales> oh, that reminds me
#606 [01:27] <xales> that xavier dude hasn't been around since i juped his nick
#607 [01:27] <xales> >:D
#608 [01:27] <Kealper> indeed he has not
#609 [01:27] <Kealper> lol
#610 [01:27] <Kealper> hmm....i hope detaching and reataching screen fixes this, i'd to have to restart irssi
#611 [01:28] <Kealper> alrighty then
#612 [01:28] <xales> what did you do
#613 [01:28] <xales> lol
#614 [01:28] <Kealper> still learning those shortcuts, turns out that was NOT the one i was looking for lol
#615 [01:28] <xales> which shortcut?
#616 [01:28] <xales> do you want/did you accidentally use
#617 [01:29] <Kealper> ^a C is what i pressed
#618 [01:29] <xales> i dont know what that does
#619 [01:29] <xales> :/
#620 [01:29] * Kealper checks the help to see what that is
#620 [01:29] <Kealper> don't use it.....lol
#621 [01:29] <xales> also, how do you get it to do something when you detach?
#622 [01:29] <xales> I want an away-on-detach thing but haven't dug yet
#623 [01:30] <Kealper> irssi script that changes my nick and sets an away message when i detach
#624 [01:30] <xales> provide the script
#625 [01:30] <xales> :/
#626 [01:30] <Kealper> 1 sec, gotta dig it up off my server...
#627 [01:30] <xales> or the part about how to make it run a subroutine when you detach
#628 [01:31] <dopeghoti> Kealper: screen issues?
#629 [01:31] <xales> Kealpy is reading help i'd assume
#630 [01:31] <xales> Kealpy is having issues, yes
#631 [01:31] * dopeghoti has screen-fu
#631 [01:32] <Kealper> i'm going to op aubot and have it kick if it sees Kealpy.....lol
#632 [01:32] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/screen_away.pl
#633 [01:32] <Kealper> comments in file explain usage, quite simple
#634 [01:32] <Kealper> now.... time for some ^a ?
#635 [01:33] <KillSpammer> Ugh...
#636 [01:33] <KillSpammer> I died again :(
#637 [01:34] <dopeghoti> well.. stop
#638 [01:34] <xales> thanks kealpy
#639 [01:34] <Kealper> ok....think i got it, let's kill screen again!
#640 [01:35] <Kealper> it was ^a c i wanted not ^a C lol
#641 [01:36] <xales> lol
#642 [01:36] <xales> KillSpammer: http://darksigns.net/irssiforever2.png <-- how IRC should look
#643 [01:36] <Kealper> 01:35:57 up 374 days, 34 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
#644 [01:36] <xales> I still win :/
#645 [01:36] <xales> I had 500 days
#646 [01:36] <xales> :(
#647 [01:36] <Kealper> well....i'm working my way there lol
#648 [01:36] * dopeghoti just lost The Game.
#648 [01:37] <KillSpammer> Your own cleint?
#649 [01:37] <xales> nope
#650 [01:37] <xales> irssi
#651 [01:37] <Kealper> i'm going to restart irssi and screenshot it, my theme got messed up when i cleared screen
#652 [01:37] <dopeghoti> irssi is the best IRC client this side of telnet.
#653 [01:37] <Kealper> dopeghoti: lol
#654 [01:37] <xales> theres another side dopeghoti?
#655 [01:38] * Kealper [Kealper@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#656 [01:38] <xales> how sad
#657 [01:38] <dopeghoti> xales: yes- nc
#658 [01:38] <xales> not only do I have 150 days uptime
#659 [01:38] <Kealper> that looks a billion times more correct
#660 [01:38] <KillSpammer> Lol
#661 [01:38] <xales> I also have irssi running for 150 days
#662 [01:38] <KillSpammer> I've seen Darksigns.net before
#663 [01:38] <KillSpammer> I can't remember where though.
#664 [01:38] <xales> 01:38:29 -!- Irssi: Uptime: 142d 6h 6m 6s
#665 [01:39] <KillSpammer> What other things do you haz on that website?
#666 [01:39] <xales> I did have other things, I took it down. too many people bothered me
#667 [01:39] <KillSpammer> What was on it?
#668 [01:39] <xales> its just a convience domain, for ssh or whatever
#669 [01:39] <xales> and a nice email and a nice hostmask
#670 [01:39] <xales> also, you probably saw darksigns.net in my whois
#671 [01:39] <xales> lol
#672 [01:40] <KillSpammer> I'm forbidden to acess /images/
#673 [01:40] <KillSpammer> How dare you!
#674 [01:40] <lemon-rev> i love the help or the error email
#675 [01:40] <xales> well, A game I was developing
#676 [01:40] <lemon-rev> for that irc program
#677 [01:40] <xales> err, /images isn't a directory I think
#678 [01:40] <KillSpammer> Lol
#679 [01:40] <KillSpammer> Its not letting me have acess!
#680 [01:40] <KillSpammer> access*
#681 [01:40] <xales> it shouldn't
#682 [01:40] <xales> lol
#683 [01:40] <KillSpammer> Now...
#684 [01:40] <KillSpammer> What game was this?
#685 [01:41] <xales> a rewrite of an old game
#686 [01:41] <xales> which I prefer not to talk about :/
#687 [01:41] <KillSpammer> :S
#688 [01:41] <KillSpammer> Why do peoples go blue and red all the time
#689 [01:42] * Hurlawhirl [Hurlawhirl@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#690 [01:42] <xales> ?
#691 [01:42] <KillSpammer> There names and text
#692 [01:42] <dopeghoti> Election season?
#693 [01:42] <dopeghoti> oh, xchat. It's a way of helping you keep straight who is saying what.
#694 [01:42] <dopeghoti> blue is this guy, green is that guy, et cetera.
#695 [01:43] <xales> oh
#696 [01:43] <xales> the alternating colors thing
#697 [01:43] <xales> yeah, its just to help you read the long walls of text
#698 [01:43] <KillSpammer> Oh..
#699 [01:43] <xales> also, KillSpammer, here is something else on it. another picture! O_o http://darksigns.net/serverprops.png
#700 [01:43] <xales> I'm working on that to help get rid of some of the server questions
#701 [01:43] <KillSpammer> Lol
#702 [01:43] <KillSpammer> So many windows open...
#703 [01:44] <xales> I'm a developer, no other way :/
#704 [01:44] * Kealper [Kealper@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#705 [01:44] <KillSpammer> Hmm...
#706 [01:44] <KillSpammer> I just create lame litttle batch codes to do good things...
#707 [01:44] <Kealper> cool story bro....man i hate it when i get on that server
#708 [01:44] <KillSpammer> Sometimes i attempt to make java things
#709 [01:44] <KillSpammer> That fail...
#710 [01:45] <xales> 4 explorer windows, notepad++, firefox, ssh, and whatever im workin on that may or may not be running
#711 [01:45] <xales> so adds up to like 10 or 15 things
#712 [01:45] <Kealper> did anyone see anything that i said after rejoining like 5 min ago? lol
#713 [01:45] <xales> KillSpammer: java is a fail language
#714 [01:45] <xales> Kealper: uhh I think so? which server
#715 [01:45] <KillSpammer> I realise that now :)
#716 [01:45] <KillSpammer> What should i do...
#717 [01:45] <KillSpammer> What language should i go learn now.
#718 [01:45] <dopeghoti> <3 Qt
#719 [01:45] <xales> what server do you have issues with kealpy
#720 [01:45] <Kealper> apocalypse, for some reason my server hates that one
#721 [01:45] <xales> apocalypse has issues, but never dropped me
#722 [01:45] <xales> well...once
#723 [01:45] <xales> but thats it
#724 [01:45] <xales> xalesbot was on there for a while
#725 [01:46] <xales> and never got a disconnect
#726 [01:46] <xales> KillSpammer: C
#727 [01:46] <KillSpammer> Hmm
#728 [01:46] <KillSpammer> Is it easier than C++
#729 [01:46] <KillSpammer> I hated C++ :S
#730 [01:46] <xales> if you know C, it is extremely easy to learn any other language
#731 [01:46] <xales> umm...C and C++ are mostly the same
#732 [01:46] <xales> basic C++ is C, more or less
#733 [01:46] <dopeghoti> C++ is good to know if you want to learn Java
#734 [01:46] <Kealper> what did you hate about C++? the syntax or the OO stuff?
#735 [01:47] <KillSpammer> Shall i go with text or videos?
#736 [01:47] <dopeghoti> which I don't, but should
#737 [01:47] <dopeghoti> Text.
#738 [01:47] <dopeghoti> Text > videos, always.
#739 [01:47] <KillSpammer> Lol i already know C then almost...
#740 [01:47] <xales> Kealper: most courses/tutorials for C++ consider OO to be "advanced"
#741 [01:47] <xales> KillSpammer: pointers?
#742 [01:47] <xales> pointers = key concept
#743 [01:47] <KillSpammer> C++ confused me alot...
#744 [01:47] <dopeghoti> OO is only 'advanced' for people that have learned too many procedural habits.
#745 [01:47] <Kealper> xales: i'll take that as a "he hated the syntax"
#746 [01:48] <dopeghoti> C's pointers, references, and dereferences can be a PITA
#747 [01:48] <KillSpammer> I can't buy books cuz i'm poor
#748 [01:48] * dopeghoti is a python fan.
#748 [01:48] <KillSpammer> So link me to a good website to learn from
#749 [01:48] <xales> char *fagarray = calloc(sizeof(char), 512); sprintf(fagarray, "IM A FAG"); printf("%s\n", fagarray); free(fagarray);
#750 [01:48] <xales> I WIN
#751 [01:48] <xales> KillSpammer: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
#752 [01:48] <Kealper> AutoIt is a procedural language (says it's OO, it lies, that's just enough to work with COM stuff) but a lot of times i wish it was OO :/
#753 [01:48] <dopeghoti> KillSpammer: buy books?
#754 [01:48] <dopeghoti> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Free+online+C%2B%2B+tutorial
#755 [01:48] <xales> its c++ but most of it is the same
#756 [01:49] <KillSpammer> You linked me to C++?"
#757 [01:49] <xales> for me, biggest difference is that C++ needs a cast from void* to type* and C doesn't
#758 [01:49] <xales> they are quite similar
#759 [01:49] * GreyVulpine blinks
#759 [01:49] <dopeghoti> C++ is a superset of C
#760 [01:49] <xales> learn C++ first, C is basically just C++ with less features
#761 [01:49] <dopeghoti> hence the name.
#762 [01:49] <xales> KillSpammer: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
#763 [01:49] <Kealper> it's alive!
#764 [01:49] <xales> morning GreyVulpine
#765 [01:49] <dopeghoti> morning, GreyVulpine
#766 [01:49] * GreyVulpine stabs xales.
#766 [01:49] * xales stabs back with Kealpy
#766 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> That's for suggesting c and C++ are similar.
#767 [01:50] <dopeghoti> screw C, learn Python.
#768 [01:50] <xales> similar syntax
#769 [01:50] <xales> :/
#770 [01:50] <Kealper> dopeghoti: python should burn in a hole
#771 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> printf vs cout?
#772 [01:50] <dopeghoti> Kealper: that's reserved for PHP
#773 [01:50] * dopeghoti shudders
#773 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> overloading functions?
#774 [01:50] <xales> printf is part of stdlib, cout is a dumb c++ thing. I use printf in C++
#775 [01:50] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: hence superset.
#776 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> bitwise operators?
#777 [01:50] <dopeghoti> ..."dumb c++ thing"?
#778 [01:51] <dopeghoti> cout syntax is SO much easier to read
#779 [01:51] <xales> those are all additions, a large amount of C compiles as C++
#780 [01:51] <Kealper> doesn't java have cout too? lol
#781 [01:51] <xales> dopeghoti: I disagree
#782 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Kealper, no
#783 [01:51] <KillSpammer> cout << "Python sucks, face it";
#784 [01:51] <Kealper> KillSpammer: you forgot << endl;
#785 [01:51] <KillSpammer> Lol
#786 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> it's all system.out.print("I hate java with a passion")
#787 [01:51] <KillSpammer> Its one link
#788 [01:51] <KillSpammer> GreyVulpine
#789 [01:51] <KillSpammer> WRONG!
#790 [01:51] <xales> printf("Lets make this complicated: %s\n", *(&(*(&("PYTHON SUCKS")))));
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#792 [01:51] <Kealper> and if you want to get technical, you forgot STD:: :P
#793 [01:51] <KillSpammer> Its System.out.print("Its this...");
#794 [01:51] <dopeghoti> KillSpammer: stop using $NEWLINE as punctuation, _PLEASE_!
#795 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, so I forgot a ;
#796 [01:52] <KillSpammer> and Captial S
#797 [01:52] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#797 [01:52] <KillSpammer> Dopeghoti I'm confused
#798 [01:52] <dopeghoti> and Python may not be The Tool To Use For All Things, but it can be damned elegant and straightforward sometimes.
#799 [01:52] <KillSpammer> Whats am i doin wrong?
#800 [01:52] <Kealper> xales: did it send my link to irssi when i was DCed?
#801 [01:52] <xales> nope
#802 [01:53] * GreyVulpine is still a fan of C++ for basic understanding of OO
#802 [01:53] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/V6Y3L.jpg
#803 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> java can suck it
#804 [01:53] <xales> KillSpammer: stop pressing enter so much :(
#805 [01:53] <Kealper> ignore the green u in the sysray :P
#806 [01:53] <KillSpammer> Why not say that...
#807 [01:53] <dopeghoti> KillSpammer: when you are about to press Enter, instead type a comma.
#808 [01:53] <xales> GreyVulpine: s/can/does
#809 [01:53] <Kealper> systray*
#810 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#811 [01:53] <KillSpammer> Its a sentence!
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#813 [01:53] <KillSpammer> Lol
#814 [01:53] <KillSpammer> ,
#815 [01:53] <dopeghoti> Kealper: what's wrong with µtorrent?
#816 [01:54] <Kealper> because it's not linux that i'm seeing right now >.>
#817 [01:54] <KillSpammer> Whats something other than C i should learn
#818 [01:54] <KillSpammer> I'll come back to the C language later...
#819 [01:54] <Kealper> KillSpammer: Perl
#820 [01:54] <jobotslash> utorrent for windows is amazing... for mac? it's way behind... =(
#821 [01:54] <xales> KillSpammer: its easier to learn other languages if you learn C first
#822 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> It really all depends on the field you want to join
#823 [01:54] <dopeghoti> If anyone suggests PHP, stab them in the face with a spork. BASIC is less infuriating
#824 [01:54] <xales> learning C later is harder, as C is a very low level language
#825 [01:55] <Hurlawhirl> Hey guys, quick question: With layers, does layer 0 start where the bedrock ends or is it the layer of the lowest bedrock? Here's a picture of what I'm looking at: http://tinypic.com/r/21its/7
#826 [01:55] <KillSpammer> Fine then...
#827 [01:55] <xales> dopeghoti: visual basic is not
#828 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Hurlawhirl - Layer of the lowest bedrock is 0
#829 [01:55] <KillSpammer> I shall attempt to learn C!
#830 [01:55] <Hurlawhirl> Awesome, thanks.
#831 [01:55] <dopeghoti> xales: don't get me started on the Lego Programming that is Visual Foo
#832 [01:55] <xales> KillSpammer: if you have questions, PM them to me
#833 [01:55] <KillSpammer> I hate notch for making Minecraft in java.
#834 [01:55] <xales> I may not be around but I will get back to you within 24 hours
#835 [01:55] <dopeghoti> admittedly, I have a soft spot for BASIC as it was the first language I leanred
#836 [01:56] <Kealper> dopeghoti: Lego Programming? do you mean the blocks for the old Mindstorms stuff?
#837 [01:56] <xales> also Kealpy, how do I get notices to show in my status window? :/
#838 [01:56] <Kealper> i don't even remember what i did to set that, it was a setting i found in the irssi docs to make notices go to your active window
#839 [01:56] <dopeghoti> Kealper: no, I mean how it's more about design than it is about procedure.
#840 [01:56] <Kealper> dopeghoti: oh lol
#841 [01:57] <Kealper> beacuse Lego does actually have their own method of programming for those old Mindstorms kits :P
#842 [01:57] <KillSpammer> Kealper, your so screwed if you insult basic again.
#843 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> BASIC sucks!
#844 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#845 [01:57] <KillSpammer> Kealper, Dope might attack you.
#846 [01:57] <Kealper> KillSpammer: huh? i work with a BASIC-syntax language every day
#847 [01:57] <KillSpammer> dopeghoti, Attack!
#848 [01:57] <Kealper> why would i insult it....
#849 [01:57] <KillSpammer> Eah sorry wait a second.
#850 [01:57] <KillSpammer> Who insulted it before...
#851 [01:58] * GreyVulpine points at xales.
#851 [01:58] <xales> I insulted visual basic :(
#852 [01:58] <Hurlawhirl> Is iron in any specific layers, or should I just mine away until I find some?
#853 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Just mine
#854 [01:58] <KillSpammer> Its all over the map
#855 [01:58] <xales> Hurlawhirl: anywhere below a certain one, not sure which one
#856 [01:58] <Kealper> oh god yes, VB can burn in a hole right beside PHP
#857 [01:58] <KillSpammer> Iron can generate at any level.
#858 [01:58] <dopeghoti> Hurlawhirl: I think Iron is found below layer.. 48?
#859 [01:58] <KillSpammer> I think...
#860 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> I've hit iron near the surface, I've hit it down near bedrock
#861 [01:58] <Hurlawhirl> Ah, thanks.
#862 [01:58] <xales> KillSpammer: not any level, any level below a certain one
#863 [01:58] <dopeghoti> coan can span anywhere
#864 [01:58] <KillSpammer> Something around 48
#865 [01:58] <Kealper> it takes the BASIC syntax and barfs all over it
#866 [01:58] <dopeghoti> coal rather
#867 [01:59] <KillSpammer> Spawns any level.
#868 [01:59] <KillSpammer> I think...
#869 [01:59] <xales> it works like this
#870 [01:59] * GreyVulpine stabs you all
#870 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Iron_%28Ore%29
#871 [01:59] <xales> mineral X spawns equally as often anywhere below layer N, where N is the highest layer it can be found
#872 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Iron is a mineral not-so-commonly found inside stone blocks underground or in cliffs as shown in the picture. It shows up at elevations ranging from 0 (the bottom of the map) to 67 (5 blocks above sea level).
#873 [02:00] <dopeghoti> "If it's on a Wiki, it _must_ be true!" ;)
#874 [02:00] * GreyVulpine shakes.
#874 [02:00] <xales> "If its on a Internet, it is true"
#875 [02:00] <xales> oh wait
#876 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> I've also hit iron near the surface as well
#877 [02:00] * Kealper rages at wikihaters
#877 [02:00] <KillSpammer> C++ PDF downloaded...
#878 [02:00] <xales> umm what
#879 [02:00] <xales> a pdf?
#880 [02:00] <xales> oh
#881 [02:00] <xales> that
#882 [02:00] <xales> easier to just do it in the browser, but whatever
#883 [02:01] <xales> also, I DO NOT USE A MICROSOFT IDE, (visual c++ or whatever)
#884 [02:01] <xales> find another one
#885 [02:01] <xales> like Code::Blocks
#886 [02:01] <dopeghoti> Eclipse?
#887 [02:01] <xales> or Qt Creator
#888 [02:01] <xales> Eclipse for C?
#889 [02:01] <Kealper> dopeghoti: lol
#890 [02:01] <dopeghoti> vim :D
#891 [02:01] <xales> no thanks
#892 [02:01] <xales> dopeghoti: vim on windows
#893 [02:01] <xales> bad idea
#894 [02:01] <xales> just like irssi on windows
#895 [02:01] <xales> it looks massively ugly
#896 [02:02] <Kealper> hey, it works....no one said it worked good....lol
#897 [02:02] <dopeghoti> the only things Windows are good for are games, and PuTTY to a real computer to do work in ;)
#898 [02:02] <KillSpammer> xales, do you use notepad++ or something else?
#899 [02:02] <xales> dopeghoti: :D
#900 [02:02] <xales> KillSpammer: I use vim
#901 [02:02] <Kealper> now irssi on windows, going through a cmd window...that's how to roll like a boss
#902 [02:02] * dopeghoti respects, but doesn't use escape-meta-alt-control-shift^W^W^W^W^Wemacs.
#902 [02:03] <dopeghoti> Kealper: nah, regedit your shell to irssi.exe :)
#903 [02:03] <Kealper> lol
#904 [02:03] <xales> dopeghoti: you mean Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping?
#905 [02:04] <dopeghoti> The very same!
#906 [02:04] <dopeghoti> also known as the OS with a built-in text editor
#907 [02:04] <Kealper> i've got to google that now
#908 [02:04] <Kealper> lol
#909 [02:04] <xales> dopeghoti: without*
#910 [02:04] <dopeghoti> *chortle*
#911 [02:04] <dopeghoti> come now
#912 [02:04] <xales> KillSpammer: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/gnuemacs.acro.exp.html
#913 [02:04] <xales> err
#914 [02:04] <xales> wrong highlight
#915 [02:04] <xales> sorry
#916 [02:04] <xales> Kealper: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/gnuemacs.acro.exp.html
#917 [02:04] <dopeghoti> with enough effort, emacs can indeed edit a text file.
#918 [02:05] <Kealper> yea, just found the wiki and seen it was for emacs stuff
#919 [02:05] <KillSpammer> xales, What?
#920 [02:05] <xales> dopeghoti: but then you have to not get distracted with tetris, ELIZA, nethack, what else...
#921 [02:05] <dopeghoti> mmmm, nethack
#922 [02:05] <xales> KillSpammer: sorry, I autocompleted the wrong name
#923 [02:05] <KillSpammer> xales, Fail :)
#924 [02:05] <xales> indeed
#925 [02:05] <KillSpammer> Can Notepad++ compile C?
#926 [02:05] <dopeghoti> no; it can edit C
#927 [02:05] <KillSpammer> Didn't think so
#928 [02:06] <dopeghoti> to compile C, you need (dun dun DAH!) a compiler
#929 [02:06] <xales> like gcc
#930 [02:06] <xales> or mingw
#931 [02:06] <Kealper> afaik np++ could, if you got a compiler that accepted CLI input
#932 [02:06] <KillSpammer> I might just use Dev++
#933 [02:07] <xales> bad
#934 [02:07] <xales> dev++ = bad
#935 [02:07] <dopeghoti> GCC FTW
#936 [02:07] <KillSpammer> What do you recommend then?
#937 [02:07] <dopeghoti> install cygwin
#938 [02:07] <dopeghoti> use vim as your editor, and gcc as your compiler
#939 [02:07] <xales> other than cygwin+gcc+vim
#940 [02:07] <xales> http://www.codeblocks.org/
#941 [02:07] <xales> cygwin is bad though
#942 [02:07] <xales> :/
#943 [02:07] <dopeghoti> or torrent yourself a copy of Borland's IDE
#944 [02:07] * dopeghoti begs to differ
#944 [02:08] <dopeghoti> cygwin is great if you're not expecting it to be what it's not
#945 [02:08] <Kealper> dopeghoti: lord have you seen how expensive that is for their current one?
#946 [02:08] <Kealper> it's like $7k lol
#947 [02:08] <KillSpammer> Whats so great about it?
#948 [02:08] <dopeghoti> nothing whatsoever
#949 [02:08] <dopeghoti> it's quite deplorable, really
#950 [02:09] <xales> cygwin is ugly as hell
#951 [02:09] <dopeghoti> It's not even C99
#952 [02:09] <xales> if your gonna go there you might as well install Arch on a VM
#953 [02:09] <xales> itll look better
#954 [02:09] <dopeghoti> xales: true.
#955 [02:09] <Kealper> lol
#956 [02:09] <xales> Kealpy
#957 [02:10] <xales> do you want me to show you how to run nethack inside irssi
#958 [02:10] <Kealper> uhh....why? lol
#959 [02:10] <xales> nethack is epic and its nice to have it next to irc :D
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#961 [02:10] <xales> I have an epic character right now, but I'm afraid of losing him if I leave minetown, so i've been in minetown for almost 4 months now
#962 [02:10] <Kealper> sure i guess lol
#963 [02:11] <xales> he has instrinsic invisibility, lol
#964 [02:11] <KillSpammer> Minetown?
#965 [02:11] <KillSpammer> Confused.
#966 [02:11] <xales> minetown
#967 [02:11] <xales> nethack
#968 [02:11] <xales> unrelated to minecraft
#969 [02:11] <Kealper> KillSpammer: game, but before video cards
#970 [02:12] <KillSpammer> Texted Based?
#971 [02:12] <KillSpammer> Text*
#972 [02:12] <Kealper> sorta
#973 [02:12] <KillSpammer> Giveme download
#974 [02:12] <KillSpammer> Nao!
#975 [02:12] <Kealper> http://www.nethack.org/
#976 [02:12] <xales> err
#977 [02:12] <xales> wrong way to play
#978 [02:13] <xales> KillSpammer: you don't download it
#979 [02:13] <xales> you install putty and connect to nethack.alt.org
#980 [02:13] <KillSpammer> Eahh ok...
#981 [02:13] <dopeghoti> :D
#982 [02:13] <xales> Kealper: "/alias nethack window new hidden;window name telnet;exec -name telnet -nosh -interactive -window telnet netback.alt.org"
#983 [02:13] * dopeghoti prefers Crawl.
#983 [02:13] * xales has never heard of such things
#983 [02:13] <Kealper> irssi's power is absolute.
#984 [02:13] <xales> indeed
#985 [02:13] <xales> dopeghoti: what is crawl?
#986 [02:14] <dopeghoti> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/
#987 [02:14] <dopeghoti> another Roguelike game
#988 [02:14] <KillSpammer> Ok...
#989 [02:14] <KillSpammer> I got PuTTy
#990 [02:14] <Kealper> alright now, how do i get to that window through irssi? lol
#991 [02:14] <xales> Kealper: did you run the command?
#992 [02:14] <Kealper> indeed
#993 [02:14] <xales> I think it should open when you run that
#994 [02:14] <xales> :/
#995 [02:15] <xales> that sets an alias; make sure to run /nethack
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#997 [02:15] <Kealper> oh....doh!
#998 [02:15] <dopeghoti> Kealper: ssh joshua@crawl.akrasiac.org
#999 [02:15] <KillSpammer> How do i connect to it?
#1000 [02:15] <dopeghoti> passwd Joshua
#1001 [02:15] <dopeghoti> er, s/J/j/
#1002 [02:15] <xales> KillSpammer: do you have putty open?
#1003 [02:15] <KillSpammer> Yes.
#1004 [02:15] <xales> check the radio button for telnet
#1005 [02:15] <KillSpammer> PuTTy Configuration
#1006 [02:15] <xales> and put nethack.alt.org in the box
#1007 [02:15] <xales> for Host
#1008 [02:15] <xales> then hit connect or open or whatever it says
#1009 [02:16] <KillSpammer> Woot got it
#1010 [02:16] <xales> then you have to register to play, and you probably should edit your config, because arrow keys are disabled by default
#1011 [02:16] <xales> lol
#1012 [02:18] <Kealper> fullscreening putty while watching a game crashed it :/
#1013 [02:18] <KillSpammer> Where should i uhh
#1014 [02:18] <KillSpammer> Wheres the config
#1015 [02:19] * Kealper is sad
#1015 [02:19] <xales> KillSpammer: login
#1016 [02:19] <xales> then press o
#1017 [02:19] <xales> on the menu screen
#1018 [02:19] <Kealper> can't connect to nethack through irssi
#1019 [02:19] <xales> Kealper: do you have telnet client installed
#1020 [02:19] <xales> lol
#1021 [02:20] <Kealper> that's actually a good question...hold on lol
#1022 [02:20] <Kealper> i assume it would be installed by default lol
#1023 [02:20] <xales> nope
#1024 [02:20] <xales> KillSpammer: here is my config file
#1025 [02:20] <xales> http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/x/xales/xales.nh343rc
#1026 [02:20] <xales> make yours like that
#1027 [02:20] <xales> and the game will be a nice experience
#1028 [02:20] <Kealper> yes i have a telnet client
#1029 [02:21] <Kealper> port is probably blocked -.-
#1030 [02:21] <xales> outgoing though?
#1031 [02:21] <xales> try from not in irssi
#1032 [02:21] <KillSpammer> How do i past e it?
#1033 [02:21] <xales> KillSpammer: you can't
#1034 [02:21] <xales> you have to edit it
#1035 [02:21] <xales> :/
#1036 [02:21] <xales> by hang
#1037 [02:21] <xales> d
#1038 [02:22] <xales> lol
#1039 [02:22] <xales> xales the chaotic male elven Wizard was last seen in Mines on turn 14366 and with 37723 points
#1040 [02:22] * Kealper sighs and starts up another putty instance
#1040 [02:22] <xales> Kealper: ^A-c
#1041 [02:22] <xales> control-a c
#1042 [02:22] <xales> makes new screen window, lol
#1043 [02:22] <xales> and control-a a to swap between em
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#1046 [02:23] <Kealper> xales: yea i know lol
#1047 [02:23] <xales> lol
#1048 [02:24] <Kealper> ^a [space] is what i use to cycle through windows though....because i'm a boss like that
#1049 [02:24] <xales> D:
#1050 [02:24] <eggwithcheese> Hey there guys, got a question that i just cant seem to figure out what to search for to fix the problem
#1051 [02:24] <KillSpammer> Ok
#1052 [02:24] <KillSpammer> I go into insert mode
#1053 [02:24] <xales> I use raw SSH packets entered by punch-card, Kealper
#1054 [02:24] <KillSpammer> How do i move the green thing :)
#1055 [02:25] <dopeghoti> hjkl
#1056 [02:25] <KillSpammer> Ask away eggwithcheese
#1057 [02:25] <xales> KillSpammer: its a shitty version of vi, hit escape to leave insert mode
#1058 [02:25] <Kealper> xales: i give, you won lol
#1059 [02:25] <xales> then you can move it
#1060 [02:25] <eggwithcheese> I'm running a server from my desktop, but i can't seem to get anything more than "Memory use: 70mb (2% free)"
#1061 [02:25] <eggwithcheese> Doesnt change no matter how much ram i allocate for the server
#1062 [02:25] <xales> how much ram do you have available
#1063 [02:25] <xales> on the computer
#1064 [02:25] <KillSpammer> Tried redownloading the server?
#1065 [02:25] <eggwithcheese> I have 4 gb i can use
#1066 [02:25] <KillSpammer> Plus that
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#1068 [02:26] <Kealper> eggwithcheese: how are you launching the server?
#1069 [02:26] <eggwithcheese> i have 2 allocated
#1070 [02:26] <eggwithcheese> through terminal on OSX
#1071 [02:26] <xales> how are you launching the server?
#1072 [02:26] <Kealper> i meant what CLI params
#1073 [02:26] <xales> what command are you using, specifically
#1074 [02:26] <Kealper> jesus xales
#1075 [02:26] <Kealper> lol
#1076 [02:26] * xales is Kealper's shadow
#1076 [02:26] <eggwithcheese> java -MXx 2048M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1077 [02:26] <xales> wrong params
#1078 [02:27] <eggwithcheese> ah
#1079 [02:27] <Kealper> -Xms2048M
#1080 [02:27] <xales> "java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#1081 [02:27] <eggwithcheese> sans the typo
#1082 [02:27] <eggwithcheese> :p
#1083 [02:27] <xales> that one
#1084 [02:27] <xales> what I wrote for you
#1085 [02:27] <xales> use that
#1086 [02:27] <Kealper> you never specified how much it should start with
#1087 [02:27] <xales> :D
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#1089 [02:28] <eggwithcheese> ahhh, 98% free
#1090 [02:28] <eggwithcheese> thanks dudes!
#1091 [02:28] <xales> no problem
#1092 [02:29] <Kealper> i totally ninja'd you 3 for 3 on that lol
#1093 [02:29] <xales> not at all
#1094 [02:29] <eggwithcheese> i may be back because i seem to alway break things and not realize what i did :p
#1095 [02:29] <xales> I was more verbose in 2 of 3 of them Kealper
#1096 [02:29] <xales> eggwithcheese: we look forward to not seeing you again (in other words, good luck with everything working)
#1097 [02:30] <xales> ;)
#1098 [02:30] <Kealper> lol
#1099 [02:30] <eggwithcheese> well i may come back without problems!
#1100 [02:30] <xales> you are welcome to do so
#1101 [02:30] <xales> some new people to talk to would be nice
#1102 [02:30] <xales> as awesome as they are, playing with Kealpy gets old
#1103 [02:30] <KillSpammer> I'm new!
#1104 [02:30] <eggwithcheese> I completely understand that
#1105 [02:30] <Kealper> :,(
#1106 [02:31] <xales> Kealpy
#1107 [02:31] <xales> help me please
#1108 [02:31] <Kealper> xalie
#1109 [02:31] <eggwithcheese> The other channel I frequent had 4 new people drop by yesterday
#1110 [02:31] <xales> y u no help
#1111 [02:31] <eggwithcheese> That was odd
#1112 [02:31] <xales> eggwithcheese: #minecraft >.>
#1113 [02:31] <xales> lots of people droppin in and out
#1114 [02:31] <xales> all day long
#1115 [02:31] <xales> lol
#1116 [02:31] <Kealper> lol
#1117 [02:31] <eggwithcheese> yeah, but minecraft has a hella lot of people
#1118 [02:31] <xales> half of my log for that channel is joins/parts/quits, I swear
#1119 [02:31] <eggwithcheese> our channel just randomly gets found
#1120 [02:31] <Kealper> be warned, it's got an unusually high ratio of troll/person though
#1121 [02:32] <xales> Kealper: its actually lower than you would think
#1122 [02:32] <xales> its really bad in some other channels
#1123 [02:32] <Kealper> has it gotten better?
#1124 [02:32] <dopeghoti> xales: you haven't /ignore'd part and join messages?
#1125 [02:32] <xales> a tinssy bit
#1126 [02:32] <xales> dopeghoti: I usually do, but in channels where there are a lot of IRC newbies, its funny to leave em on
#1127 [02:32] <xales> some people have funny usernames
#1128 [02:33] <xales> I've seen "fuckoff" and "poop" and "$REALNAME"
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#1130 [02:33] <Kealper> $REALNAME.......lol
#1131 [02:33] <xales> PHP FOREVER!!!!
#1132 [02:34] <Kealper> AutoIt uses $ as vars too :P
#1133 [02:34] * xales is in a hole burning right now, please excuse the lack of further screaming
#1133 [02:34] <aetherian> uh
#1134 [02:34] <aetherian> wow
#1135 [02:34] <xales> AutoIt
#1136 [02:34] <KillSpammer> %random%
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#1138 [02:34] <xales> also uses stupid as its purpose
#1139 [02:34] <aetherian> that stuff sounded weird out of context
#1140 [02:34] * xales is jk....somewhat
#1140 [02:34] <dopeghoti> as does {,ba,z,c,k,tc}sh
#1141 [02:35] <xales> lol
#1142 [02:35] <Kealper> that insult flew right over my head, on how true it is to say ignorance is bliss
#1143 [02:35] <dopeghoti> regarding the $ glyph, not necessarily stupidity
#1144 [02:35] <xales> I'm not saying its stupid, I'm saying the language is stupid in genral
#1145 [02:35] <xales> perl uses $ and isn't stupid...much
#1146 [02:35] <dopeghoti> php should have appended _and_explode_in_flames at the end of all of its primitive names :p
#1147 [02:36] <xales> php has primitives?
#1148 [02:36] <Kealper> explode($names); am i doing it right?
#1149 [02:36] <xales> you mean like variable and not-variable?
#1150 [02:36] <dopeghoti> PHP _is_ primiticve.
#1151 [02:36] <Kealper> whoops
#1152 [02:36] <dopeghoti> primitive even
#1153 [02:36] <Kealper> flames*
#1154 [02:36] <xales> does XChat honor ye-olde formatting?
#1155 [02:36] <xales> like _underline_ and *bold*
#1156 [02:36] <dopeghoti> it can
#1157 [02:36] <Kealper> yea, i think
#1158 [02:36] <xales> for that matter, does mirc/other windows things
#1159 [02:37] <dopeghoti> mIRC also.. _can_ but doesn't out of the box
#1160 [02:37] <Kealper> mirc doesn't
#1161 [02:37] <xales> figures
#1162 [02:37] <Kealper> or what dope said
#1163 [02:37] <xales> who wants to bet mibbit doesn't
#1164 [02:37] <dopeghoti> mIRC spends too much time basking in its nonstandard colour codes
#1165 [02:37] <xales> and shitty scripting
#1166 [02:37] <xales> :)
#1167 [02:37] * dopeghoti refuses to dignify mIRC macros with the term 'script'
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#1168 [02:38] <xales> well then
#1169 [02:38] <kermie> kermie...really...
#1170 [02:38] <xales> I guess we have a problem
#1171 [02:38] * xales is too cool for ACTIONs
#1171 [02:38] <mib_8676fd> better
#1172 [02:38] <Kealper> _test_
#1173 [02:38] <xales> I disagree
#1174 [02:38] <xales> kermie was better
#1175 [02:38] <Kealper> *test*
#1176 [02:38] <Kealper> holy crap it does
#1177 [02:38] <xales> lol
#1178 [02:39] <dopeghoti> /test/ of italics? :)
#1179 [02:39] <mib_8676fd> _testing?_
#1180 [02:39] <aetherian> um
#1181 [02:39] <xales> kermie is you?
#1182 [02:39] <mib_8676fd> half way
#1183 [02:39] <mib_8676fd> sadly
#1184 [02:39] <xales> err, drop the ?
#1185 [02:39] <xales> just _testing_
#1186 [02:39] <mib_8676fd> _asdf_
#1187 [02:39] <mib_8676fd> meh
#1188 [02:39] <aetherian> wtf are you guys doing?
#1189 [02:39] <xales> dopeghoti: since when is that italics?
#1190 [02:39] <xales> im pretty sure /*/ is reserved for sed
#1191 [02:40] <Kealper> the default name for that really was kermie...
#1192 [02:40] <dopeghoti> think about it. What to italics look like?
#1193 [02:40] <dopeghoti> what markdown would you suggest?
#1194 [02:40] <dopeghoti> (regexps notwithstanding)
#1195 [02:40] <Kealper> uhh.../this type/
#1196 [02:41] <xales> still
#1197 [02:41] <xales> :/
#1198 [02:41] <Kealper> regex could have some real fun parsing that though lol
#1199 [02:41] <xales> /whatever/ is sed
#1200 [02:41] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#1201 [02:41] <xales> :/
#1202 [02:41] <dopeghoti> sed just stole a syntactical playbook from regex
#1203 [02:41] <dopeghoti> and you don't have to use slashes for sed
#1204 [02:42] <xales> slash=standard
#1205 [02:42] <dopeghoti> which is great if you don't like picket\/fencing\/your\/paths
#1206 [02:42] <Kealper> lol
#1207 [02:42] <xales> at least its not trying to programmatically connect to a windows server
#1208 [02:42] <xales> \\\\servername
#1209 [02:42] <dopeghoti> don't get me started
#1210 [02:43] <xales> \\\\servername\\path\\to\\your\\gay\\smb\\shit
#1211 [02:43] <xales> 4 backslashes. you must be cool Micro$oft
#1212 [02:43] <dopeghoti> $CLIENT uses a mix of Linux/Apache and Windows/IIS-and-Apahce-on-Cygwon servers
#1213 [02:43] * dopeghoti wibbles.
#1213 [02:43] <xales> :(
#1214 [02:43] <xales> time to rm -rf $CLIENT
#1215 [02:44] <xales> or, my favorite
#1216 [02:44] <xales> dd if=/dev/null of=$CLIENT count=1024
#1217 [02:44] <dopeghoti> that just nullifies the first KiB of $CLIENT though
#1218 [02:44] <Kealper> dd? should i hit the manpages?
#1219 [02:45] <dopeghoti> direct duplication
#1220 [02:45] <xales> dopeghoti: the brain is in the _head_ get it?
#1221 [02:45] <dopeghoti> xales: not if it's stuck up their _tail_.
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#1223 [02:45] <xales> brainless client gives you money, asks for nothing
#1224 [02:45] <dopeghoti> no, brainless client goes to $competitor
#1225 [02:45] <dopeghoti> (:
#1226 [02:45] <xales> dopeghoti: well then, a proper riposte would require me to `man dd' and I'm lazy
#1227 [02:45] <Donny> Can someone help me with a question I have about multiplayer?
#1228 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1229 [02:46] <xales> in #minecrafthelp? no way
#1230 [02:46] <dopeghoti> Donny: don't ask to ask; just ask :)
#1231 [02:46] <xales> >ask your question
#1232 [02:46] <Donny> Lol, sorry. Kind of used to asking before hand.
#1233 [02:46] <Donny> Is it possible for computer to computer multiplayer?
#1234 [02:46] <Kealper> $Kealper calls subroutine playShows()
#1235 [02:46] <Donny> Or does there HAVE to be a server?
#1236 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1237 [02:46] <xales> indeed it is, that is the only way to play multiplayer
#1238 [02:46] <xales> oh
#1239 [02:46] <dopeghoti> Yes, for multiplayer, a server must be involved
#1240 [02:47] <xales> I see, yes, there has to be a server
#1241 [02:47] <dopeghoti> there is no minecraft 'listen' server a la ½-life
#1242 [02:47] <Kealper> but!
#1243 [02:47] <Donny> Is there any way I could set up a computer to be a server?
#1244 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1245 [02:47] <dopeghoti> !server
#1246 [02:47] <Kealper> you can have the server on your own computer...lol
#1247 [02:47] <xales> Donny: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#1248 [02:47] <Donny> That's exactly what I was looking for. And if I run this, I'll be able to play and my friend can connect to me?
#1249 [02:48] <Kealper> with a bit of elbow grease and about 5 min of time, yes
#1250 [02:48] <Donny> Sweet. And it'll let us cooperate to survive?
#1251 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#1252 [02:48] <dopeghoti> indeed
#1253 [02:48] <Kealper> yup, it would work just like single player
#1254 [02:48] <xales> Kealper: put this in aubot
#1255 [02:48] <Donny> Cool. And will I be able to use my SP data for an MP game?
#1256 [02:48] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Windows
#1257 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Also Yes
#1258 [02:49] <xales> Donny: you can...a bit of work involved though
#1259 [02:49] <Kealper> xales: i was literally just opening the source folder to add an !faq command now lol
#1260 [02:49] <dopeghoti> yep; just copy the world directory :)
#1261 [02:49] <xales> Kealper: <3
#1262 [02:49] <xales> make it link to that
#1263 [02:49] <xales> and the bit.ly for a reinstall command
#1264 [02:49] <xales> like !reinstall -> bit.ly
#1265 [02:49] <Donny> Sounds complicated. Anyways, can I save my MP data? Or is it a fresh start every time?
#1266 [02:49] <xales> !serverfaq -> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Windows
#1267 [02:50] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#1268 [02:50] <Kealper> Donny: automatically saves
#1269 [02:50] <xales> Donny: it saves
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#1271 [02:50] <aetherian> oh god, wikipedia is chock-full of some of the funniest bs around.
#1272 [02:50] <Donny> Okay then. Is there a tutorial I could look at to find how to use my SP save data in MP?
#1273 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> It's really easy
#1274 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> You just copy the world folder over
#1275 [02:51] <xales> well everyone, I need to go; 3am and I need to get up at 6:30, not pretty. have fun with your idiotbot Kealper
#1276 [02:51] <Kealper> you know you love AuBot
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#1278 [02:53] <Kealper> i don't think that quit message was long enough
#1279 [02:54] <aetherian> haha
#1280 [02:58] <Kealper> TIL you can use 1G instead of 1024M in the cli params
#1281 [03:00] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1282 [03:00] <Kealper> !serverfaq
#1283 [03:00] <Kealper> !server
#1284 [03:00] <Kealper> and last but not least....
#1285 [03:01] <Kealper> !reinstall
#1286 [03:01] <KillSpammer> Back
#1287 [03:01] <Kealper> crap....the help needs updating
#1288 [03:02] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1289 [03:02] <Kealper> !help
#1290 [03:02] <Kealper> ok
#1291 [03:02] <KillSpammer> Hmm
#1292 [03:02] <KillSpammer> !help
#1293 [03:02] <KillSpammer> :)
#1294 [03:03] <KillSpammer> !check 10.0.04:25565
#1295 [03:03] <KillSpammer> :(
#1296 [03:03] <KillSpammer> Oh ok.
#1297 [03:03] <KillSpammer> Yay :)
#1298 [03:03] <Kealper> fail
#1299 [03:03] <KillSpammer> Fake ip anyway
#1300 [03:03] <KillSpammer> !paid KillSpammer
#1301 [03:03] <Kealper> lag?
#1302 [03:03] <KillSpammer> :)
#1303 [03:03] <KillSpammer> Yes...
#1304 [03:03] <Kealper> i wonder what my server is doing atm....
#1305 [03:03] <KillSpammer> !client
#1306 [03:04] <KillSpammer> !paid Kealper
#1307 [03:04] <KillSpammer> !paid AuBot
#1308 [03:04] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1309 [03:04] <Kealper> ok you can stop with the paid thing now
#1310 [03:04] <KillSpammer> :(
#1311 [03:05] <Kealper> holy crap....Cartograph has my server running at like 1000% cpu
#1312 [03:11] <genshou> Kealper, 1000%?
#1313 [03:11] <Kealper> a whole 1000%, not just 999%, but 1000%
#1314 [03:11] <Kealper> lol
#1315 [03:12] <genshou> What kinda crazy core you got? I want one in my starship
#1316 [03:12] <Kealper> xD
#1317 [03:12] <genshou> (seriously, how does a CPU run at 1000%?)
#1318 [03:12] <Kealper> it's possible for 1 cpu to show as 1200%
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#1320 [03:12] <genshou> I don't see how that's even possible :v
#1321 [03:13] <Kealper> an amd 12 core cpu, depending on how the usage is calculated (usager per core - added, or usage per total cpu)
#1322 [03:14] <dopeghoti> Kealper: all ten cores?
#1323 [03:14] <genshou> Ah.
#1324 [03:14] <Kealper> all 10 cores in my single cpu 1.8ghz Sempron lol
#1325 [03:14] <genshou> See, my multi-core processors all calculate by total
#1326 [03:15] <genshou> So 1000% would involve some kind of freaky space-time computations :D
#1327 [03:15] <Kealper> there are rare cases when programs are retarded and don't count it that way :/
#1328 [03:15] <genshou> (which would be totally awesome, sending data back in time to be precalculated)
#1329 [03:15] <Kealper> i see what you did there
#1330 [03:15] <Kealper> lol
#1331 [03:16] <genshou> Redstone is so sexy.
#1332 [03:16] <KillSpammer> Musical redstone is coming soon :)
#1333 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1334 [03:16] <genshou> I'm learning how to do advanced circuitry atm (NOT, NOR, logic gates in general, etc.)
#1335 [03:16] <genshou> Musical... redstone? :D
#1336 [03:17] <KillSpammer> Notch twitter
#1337 [03:17] <genshou> ah
#1338 [03:17] <KillSpammer> He's doing something with musical redstone
#1339 [03:17] <Kealper> indeed
#1340 [03:17] * genshou only follows one person on twitter, David Thorne
#1340 [03:17] * genshou adds Notch
#1340 [03:18] * KillSpammer Searches for Genshou on twitter finds japaneese accounts
#1340 [03:18] <dopeghoti> just look for recent followers of Notch
#1341 [03:18] <genshou> KillSpammer, not me I'm afraid >_>
#1342 [03:18] <genshou> Same goes for YouTube, someone in Japan snatched up the name
#1343 [03:19] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1344 [03:19] <genshou> Totally bull, I've been using the handle Genshou online since before there was an internet proper :\
#1345 [03:19] <KillSpammer> Can't find recently followed by
#1346 [03:19] <genshou> KillSpammer, I haven't added Notch yet you stalker
#1347 [03:19] <Kealper> Privmsg("#MinecraftHelp", $aTemp[Random(0, UBound($aTemp) - 1)])
#1348 [03:19] <genshou> ;v
#1349 [03:20] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1350 [03:20] <KillSpammer> Confused
#1351 [03:20] <Kealper> man that reloads so much faster without Cart running
#1352 [03:20] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1353 [03:20] <Kealper> !paid Chuck Norris
#1354 [03:20] <Kealper> !paid Chuck Norris
#1355 [03:20] <Kealper> fuu...spam
#1356 [03:20] <KillSpammer> !paid Chuck
#1357 [03:20] <Kealper> !paid Chuck Norris
#1358 [03:20] <KillSpammer> !paid Norris
#1359 [03:20] <KillSpammer> !paid Chucknorris
#1360 [03:20] <Kealper> has to be Chuck Norris
#1361 [03:21] <KillSpammer> Go make that account :)
#1362 [03:21] <KillSpammer> !help
#1363 [03:21] <KillSpammer> !motd
#1364 [03:21] <KillSpammer> :)
#1365 [03:21] <Kealper> !paid Chuck Norris
#1366 [03:21] <KillSpammer> What?
#1367 [03:21] <dopeghoti> o/
#1368 [03:21] <Kealper> !paid Chuck Norris
#1369 [03:21] <KillSpammer> Minecraft has paid for chuck norris
#1370 [03:21] <Kealper> hmm..random fail
#1371 [03:21] <KillSpammer> !paid Minecraft
#1372 [03:21] <dopeghoti> random succeed
#1373 [03:21] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1374 [03:21] <KillSpammer> Someone actually named themself Minecraft
#1375 [03:21] <KillSpammer> !paid Notch
#1376 [03:21] <KillSpammer> !paid Xnotch
#1377 [03:22] <dopeghoti> !paid notch2
#1378 [03:22] <dopeghoti> :)
#1379 [03:22] <KillSpammer> Betcha theres a crap load of notches
#1380 [03:22] <KillSpammer> !paid Jeb_
#1381 [03:22] <dopeghoti> !paid NotNotch
#1382 [03:22] <Kealper> wait, what?
#1383 [03:22] <genshou> AuBot needs an automatic "this feature has been used too many times in the last x minutes, so I'm ignoring it for y minutes"
#1384 [03:23] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1385 [03:23] <Kealper> yeah, that would be nice, but a PITA to program
#1386 [03:23] <KillSpammer> It needs to PM
#1387 [03:23] <KillSpammer> Not public message
#1388 [03:23] <dopeghoti> not really, though answers to PM or Notice would be wise.
#1389 [03:23] <genshou> Kealper, a friend of mine on another network programmed that for her dicebot.
#1390 [03:23] <dopeghoti> (what if I want to check my server but don't want to give all the trolls in #minecrafthelp the IP?)
#1391 [03:23] <Kealper> genshou: oh, it's totally possible, i'm just lazy
#1392 [03:23] <genshou> dopeghoti, /query AuBot might work?
#1393 [03:24] <genshou> (no way to know but to try)
#1394 [03:24] <dopeghoti> not if Kealper doesn't get off his hands and code it
#1395 [03:24] <Kealper> the mchelp module only listens in #MineCraftHelp
#1396 [03:24] * dopeghoti could duplicate AuBot in a day.
#1396 [03:24] <genshou> Lazy Kealper ;D
#1397 [03:24] <dopeghoti> and make it more extensible :)
#1398 [03:24] <Kealper> dopeghoti: the basic module, (mchelp) maybe, the bot itself is much more complicated lol
#1399 [03:24] <KillSpammer> Query doesn't work
#1400 [03:25] <Kealper> <@Kealper> the mchelp module only listens in #MineCraftHelp
#1401 [03:25] <dopeghoti> keep up, KillSpammer
#1402 [03:25] <KillSpammer> Lol?
#1403 [03:25] <Coll> why exactly are you complaining about trolls and stuff then
#1404 [03:25] <Kealper> dopeghoti: having AuBot do this sort of stuff is almost degrading to what it can do lol
#1405 [03:25] <KillSpammer> !paid Coll
#1406 [03:25] <Coll> you got kicks and bans and white lists for a reason
#1407 [03:25] <KillSpammer> Ok you may speak.
#1408 [03:25] <Coll> wut
#1409 [03:25] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1410 [03:25] <Kealper> o.o
#1411 [03:25] <Coll> >.>
#1412 [03:26] <KillSpammer> We now check if your paid before we talk to you
#1413 [03:26] <Coll> I am not even going to start with that right there.
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#1415 [03:26] <Coll> No you dont
#1416 [03:26] <Kealper> !disable
#1417 [03:26] <Kealper> he doesn't now lol
#1418 [03:26] <KillSpammer> Aww...
#1419 [03:26] <Coll> hahaha
#1420 [03:26] <KillSpammer> !paid Coll
#1421 [03:26] <KillSpammer> Nuuuu!
#1422 [03:26] <Coll> now I can say Fuck you
#1423 [03:26] <Coll> :)
#1424 [03:26] <KillSpammer> So far
#1425 [03:26] <Coll> so far.......?
#1426 [03:27] <Kealper> actually....i think i will rewrite the way the !disable command works
#1427 [03:27] <KillSpammer> Notch, Jeb_ and Carl has talked to me :)
#1428 [03:27] * genshou slaps Kealper around a bit with a paper fan
#1428 [03:27] <KillSpammer> Have*
#1429 [03:27] <Kealper> genshou: that's so asian lol
#1430 [03:27] <Coll> I call lies to the first and who and what?
#1431 [03:27] <genshou> trouts are so uncultured
#1432 [03:27] <KillSpammer> What?
#1433 [03:27] <KillSpammer> Notch has talked to me
#1434 [03:27] <KillSpammer> On irc and on twitter
#1435 [03:27] <Kealper> i was totlaly expecting a trout lol
#1436 [03:27] <KillSpammer> Jeb talked on me on IRC
#1437 [03:27] <Coll> irc and twitter
#1438 [03:27] <Coll> ahahahaha
#1439 [03:28] <Coll> also
#1440 [03:28] <Coll> who is Jeb?
#1441 [03:28] <genshou> I'm not a Weaboo but I'm very into Japanese culture
#1442 [03:28] <Kealper> Jens
#1443 [03:28] <Coll> Jens?
#1444 [03:28] <KillSpammer> ...
#1445 [03:28] <Kealper> Mojang'
#1446 [03:28] <KillSpammer> Minepedia
#1447 [03:28] <Kealper> fail
#1448 [03:28] <genshou> probably because my father lived there for years and was always going on business trips to the Orient when I was a child.
#1449 [03:28] <Kealper> Mojang's local redhead
#1450 [03:28] <Coll> I see
#1451 [03:28] <genshou> Novell even paid for a family vacation when I was almost six :)
#1452 [03:28] <Coll> time for bed
#1453 [03:28] <Coll> night
#1454 [03:29] <Kealper> cya Coll
#1455 [03:29] * genshou wants to go back now that he's much older and Japan is five times as cool.
#1455 [03:29] <Kealper> hmm...crap i'm too lazy to rewrite the way that disable command works
#1456 [03:30] <genshou> Now they have tons of cosplayers (esp. nekomimi), giant robot statues, flashing lights everywhere, and funky anime-coloured hair everywhere
#1457 [03:30] <Kealper> lol
#1458 [03:30] <genshou> Go to the right parts of Tokyo and it feels like an anime con in the US, except without all the annoying Americans :)
#1459 [03:30] <Kealper> o.o
#1460 [03:31] * Kealper used to be in to anime when he was younger
#1460 [03:31] <Kealper> still appriciate a good anime now and then though
#1461 [03:32] <genshou> Same.
#1462 [03:32] <genshou> These days I appreciate a good sake instead. :^)
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#1464 [03:32] <Kealper> lol
#1465 [03:33] <Kealper> !enable
#1466 [03:33] <genshou> my name is Peter and I am enabled
#1467 [03:34] <genshou> ...anyway, I wanted to ask about diamond concentration
#1468 [03:34] <Kealper> oh god....epic idea i had for !disable
#1469 [03:34] <Kealper> ask away lol
#1470 [03:34] <genshou> I can't seem to find any diamond gems, and I'm at a height of around... 13 or so according to F3?
#1471 [03:35] <genshou> Is it denser right above bedrock, cuz in my other world I was finding a lot more of it
#1472 [03:35] <Kealper> around there, usually spotable closer to lava pools
#1473 [03:35] <genshou> So far I've found 5 total (3 were used in the crafting of a pick that was destroyed before I even found one more gem)
#1474 [03:36] <genshou> OTOH I've found almost a treasure chest's worth of stone, around 128 iron ingots (some were in caves or discovered after creeper mishaps), and about 10 stacks of redstone
#1475 [03:36] <dopeghoti> genshou: ore depths explained: http://is.gd/kdbgD
#1476 [03:36] <genshou> In my World1, I did my mine right on the bedrock and seem to find more, even though the wiki says diamond is in the area I'm searching for it in World3
#1477 [03:37] <Kealper> O.o
#1478 [03:37] <Kealper> weird
#1479 [03:37] <genshou> Hmm, I find iron and gold down at bedrock
#1480 [03:37] <dopeghoti> you will
#1481 [03:37] <genshou> Does that image mean iron is far more common on a per-block basis from 64-32 than it is at bedrock?
#1482 [03:37] <dopeghoti> you can find anything at or below "its" level
#1483 [03:37] <genshou> Ah, k.
#1484 [03:38] <dopeghoti> concentration increases downward
#1485 [03:38] <dopeghoti> so iron gets max concentration at 32
#1486 [03:38] <dopeghoti> and remains the same frequenct digging down from there
#1487 [03:38] <Donny> To get my SP data onto the MP server, where do I drag my World1 folder?
#1488 [03:38] <genshou> So at or below 10 is the highest diamond concentration.
#1489 [03:38] <dopeghoti> currect.
#1490 [03:38] <dopeghoti> Donny: into the same directory you downloaded the server jar/exe into
#1491 [03:38] * genshou can deal with lava, is building a massive tower full of the stuff :)
#1491 [03:39] <dopeghoti> and rename it to simply 'world'
#1492 [03:39] <genshou> Every 3 block height I have a trough (1x7 so far, but plans for expansion)
#1493 [03:39] <Kealper> i think i'm off to bed now
#1494 [03:39] <genshou> I'm going to design water flow systems so I can place one source block at the top and mass-convert to obsidian :)
#1495 [03:39] * GreyVulpine waves
#1495 [03:39] <genshou> gn GV
#1496 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1497 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> I'll still be here
#1498 [03:40] <genshou> oh
#1499 [03:40] <genshou> fail =_=
#1500 [03:40] <genshou> gn Kealper
#1501 [03:40] <Kealper> lol
#1502 [03:40] <Kealper> i am not going to sleep, just bed
#1503 [03:40] * genshou headdesk
#1503 [03:40] <Donny> dopeghoti: Will it have my saves and everything?
#1504 [03:40] <genshou> GN KEALPER
#1505 [03:40] <genshou> 8I
#1506 [03:41] <dopeghoti> Donny: if you mean your inventory and whatnot, no (unless your registered name is Player)
#1507 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> But if you place it in a chest before moving it to MP, it'll still be there
#1508 [03:42] <Donny> So my house and everything will be there, just whatever is in my pockets won't exist?
#1509 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1510 [03:42] <dopeghoti> precisely.
#1511 [03:43] <Donny> Okay. And to have a regular survival MP game, just like on SP, do I have to edit any of the server properties?
#1512 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1513 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Monster spawning is enabled by default
#1514 [03:44] <Donny> And time will go through cycles like normal?
#1515 [03:44] <dopeghoti> yep
#1516 [03:45] <Donny> And if the server is running on my PC, I use my PC's IP to connect, right?
#1517 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1
#1518 [03:45] <Donny> But I mean on my friend's PC.
#1519 [03:45] <dopeghoti> well, you'd use 127.0.0.1, your compatriot would use your actual IP
#1520 [03:45] <Donny> Yeah, that's what I was asking.
#1521 [03:46] <Donny> Thanks, you guys are way more helpful than any other IRC I've seen for any game.
#1522 [03:46] * dopeghoti does what he can.
#1522 [03:46] <Donny> Truth is, I bought Minecraft like 4 hours ago, so I have no idea how to do anything. I still can't find any iron even. :(
#1523 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
#1524 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Also, minecraft.net's support page has a bunch of tutorial videos as well
#1525 [03:47] <lemon-rev> donny youtube
#1526 [03:47] <Donny> Oh, I know, I was just using the not finding Iron as an example. And I'm learning more and more every minute.
#1527 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Youtube was how I learned most of everything to start off with. From minecarts and switches (bob's minecart tutorials rock), to TNT cannons, to efficient ways of farming crops and trees..
#1528 [03:48] <lemon-rev> youtube was the one who conviced me to buy it lol
#1529 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> And the 100 bazilliion TNT videos are just fun to watch.
#1530 [03:49] <lemon-rev> hahaahhaah
#1531 [03:49] <Donny> I don't think I'll be doing anything intricate with TNT or Switches and wires and whatnot.
#1532 [03:49] <lemon-rev> including the one where the guy digs huge hole and plants tnt then sets it off
#1533 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Ever try using MCedit's replace tool, (dirt->TNT)?
#1534 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> An entire hillside. My server didn't like that
#1535 [03:50] * dopeghoti just finished off the second floor of his Tree Farm on his server.
#1535 [03:50] <lemon-rev> ouch
#1536 [03:50] <lemon-rev> greyvulpine never heard of such a thing
#1537 [03:50] <lemon-rev> lol
#1538 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1539 [03:51] <dopeghoti> ProTip: don't use coal for furnace fuel; use planks. It's a renewable resource.
#1540 [03:51] <lemon-rev> i got crap loads of coal i could use it to build something atm and still have enough for 100000 tourches
#1541 [03:51] <lemon-rev> lol
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#1543 [03:54] <genshou> logic gates are making my head spin *_*
#1544 [03:55] <genshou> I haven't had to think this hard about circuitry since I could last afford college ;D
#1545 [03:55] <ferdinand> help plz
#1546 [03:55] <ferdinand> making a australian server
#1547 [03:55] <ferdinand> beta
#1548 [03:55] <genshou> dopeghoti, I always have tons of coal around
#1549 [03:55] <genshou> I use planks to cook pork and fish
#1550 [03:55] <ferdinand> can anyone test my server 124.182.175.65
#1551 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> !check 124.182.175.65
#1552 [03:56] <ferdinand> !check 124.182.175.65
#1553 [03:56] <ferdinand> oh cool ty
#1554 [03:56] <genshou> A stack of coal will cook 4 stacks of smooth stone or glass
#1555 [03:56] <ferdinand> !check 124.182.175.65
#1556 [03:56] <genshou> (or ingots for that matter)
#1557 [03:56] <lemon-rev> does anyone know if any cave system ever reaches the bottem of bedrock ?, casue i like been mineing all afternoon got more resources but im after new mines lol
#1558 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> It's all randomly generated
#1559 [03:57] <genshou> I've never seen a natural cave go all the way to bedrock, but I've gotten to within the diamond-abundant region
#1560 [03:57] <lemon-rev> yea i know, so you never know if a cave is near bye unless you hear the undead
#1561 [03:57] <lemon-rev> fair enough
#1562 [03:57] <genshou> which meant my cave bottomed out in lava pits that were just above my bedrock-level mine.
#1563 [03:57] <KillSpammer> Giant wall of text's warning.
#1564 [03:57] <ferdinand> hey what is better rpg server or a creation server?
#1565 [03:57] <KillSpammer> Lol
#1566 [03:58] <genshou> The lowest part of a natural cave I ever found actually WAS at the highest bedrock level, come to think of it, but that was at the bottom of a lava pool.
#1567 [03:58] <ferdinand> hello
#1568 [03:58] <lemon-rev> neet
#1569 [03:58] <genshou> I only found out where the bottom was when I dug into it from my mine ;<
#1570 [03:58] <ferdinand> hey, question
#1571 [03:59] <ferdinand> what is better a rpg server or a creation server
#1572 [03:59] <lemon-rev> well i havent come across lava on my most lowest cave system as of yet and its just one huge sqare and growing
#1573 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - creative servers are free, and don't have all the features of a beta server
#1574 [03:59] <genshou> If you mean Creative mode as opposed to Beta
#1575 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> beta servers, you can craft and have more blocks
#1576 [03:59] <ferdinand> yeah i want a beta server
#1577 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1578 [03:59] <ferdinand> i already have my server..
#1579 [03:59] <ferdinand> lol
#1580 [04:00] <genshou> if you meant "creation" in terms of people building w/e as opposed to roleplaying their character's lives, eh... it's up to the individual which is more fun and how they play on either kind
#1581 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Then... what's the problem?
#1582 [04:00] <ferdinand> i said whats better to have creation server or a rpg server as genshou said
#1583 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Really up to you
#1584 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> How you play, how you want others to play.
#1585 [04:00] <ferdinand> hmm..what do u prefer
#1586 [04:00] <genshou> I personally enjoy RP because endlessly mining and building can get boring. It adds a bit more fun to the gameplay.
#1587 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm not the one running your server.
#1588 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> That's your job
#1589 [04:01] <ferdinand> lol also...
#1590 [04:01] <genshou> RP also certainly encourages civility to neighbours and teamwork in building community structures/regions
#1591 [04:01] <ferdinand> ill make a rp server
#1592 [04:01] <genshou> e.g. towns
#1593 [04:01] <ferdinand> does anyone know any downloadable maps i can use?
#1594 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
#1595 [04:01] <genshou> lots of downloadable maps out there
#1596 [04:01] <ferdinand> where;\\
#1597 [04:01] <genshou> I recommend searching for great subway systems ;D
#1598 [04:02] <genshou> ferdinand, try random searches in Google? xD
#1599 [04:02] <ferdinand> hmm
#1600 [04:02] <Donny> Guys, when I try to login on my laptop, it says I have to play online once to play offline.
#1601 [04:02] <lemon-rev> ferdinand if your not happy with the one you got delete it, and get minecraft to create a new one , simple
#1602 [04:03] <lemon-rev> ew
#1603 [04:03] <genshou> http://minecraft.bschaefer.net/ <--- this one looks good from a quick glance, ferdinand
#1604 [04:03] <ferdinand> looking
#1605 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Donny - Did you pay for premium?
#1606 [04:03] <Donny> Yeah, I bought Minecraft beta.
#1607 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Can you access minecraft.net?
#1608 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to use the browser version?
#1609 [04:04] <Donny> On my laptop or desktop?
#1610 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> laptop
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#1612 [04:04] <Solvius> goodmorning to ya all, and a merry christmassss
#1613 [04:05] <Donny> I just logged in to Minecraft.net on my laptop.
#1614 [04:05] <Donny> Omg nevermind. Looks like I made a typo. Sorry to waste your time...
#1615 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#1616 [04:06] <ferdinand> hmm damn
#1617 [04:06] <ferdinand> not really any rpg servers
#1618 [04:06] <ferdinand> also how do i do it so people cant destroy my blocks?
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#1620 [04:08] <genshou> Custom servers.
#1621 [04:08] <ferdinand> hello? how do i make npc and all that?
#1622 [04:08] <ferdinand> how do i get a custom server?
#1623 [04:08] <genshou> No support for NPCs without mods that haven't been made yet.
#1624 [04:08] <ferdinand> so no point in rp server yet
#1625 [04:09] <genshou> for any game: RP server = like the normal game but with players interacting with other players in a role-playing fashion
#1626 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> There's been plenty of RP mods available.
#1627 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> hmod (thou discontinued) had several plugins for Rp
#1628 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> cuboid for area protection
#1629 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> sign mods in place of NPC shops
#1630 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> iconomy for money
#1631 [04:10] <Donny> What do I do if the server window says this [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#1632 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Ignore it
#1633 [04:10] <genshou> (if I ever have time to work on mods for my server, redstone will be the economy :> )
#1634 [04:10] <Donny> Alright then.
#1635 [04:10] <ferdinand> ok ill make a rp server then
#1636 [04:13] <genshou> If you want to have an active server, be sure to have a lot of bandwidth available, advertise your server in places where it's supposed to be advertised (such as the appropriate section on the forum), and have active admins :)
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#1638 [04:13] <genshou> Wait a sec, GreyVulpine, I wanna hear more about these sign mods :o
#1639 [04:14] <KillSpammer> Craftbook.
#1640 [04:14] * genshou googles that.
#1640 [04:14] <ferdinand> yea..advertising now for ingame builders lol also
#1641 [04:14] <peeves> I have all the required apps installed for MC, but it loads up a little bit then goes black. WTF?
#1642 [04:14] <KillSpammer> Got any mods?
#1643 [04:15] <peeves> No
#1644 [04:15] <KillSpammer> Texture packs
#1645 [04:15] <lemon-rev> sqare mine with a crap load of touches for all site to see lol, http://img813.imageshack.us/i/reverendsminetouchgallo.jpg/
#1646 [04:15] <peeves> Nope
#1647 [04:15] <KillSpammer> Eahj
#1648 [04:15] <KillSpammer> Delete minecraft.jar
#1649 [04:15] <peeves> where at?
#1650 [04:15] <genshou> KillSpammer, the wiki says it requires hmod, but also that it's for Beta MC
#1651 [04:16] <genshou> (I thought hmod wasn't updated for Beta? owo)
#1652 [04:17] <Donny> Okay, so I downloaded portmap, but I can't find the executable application.
#1653 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> genshou - It was
#1654 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> But it lacked certain hooks, some plugins broke
#1655 [04:17] <genshou> peeves, that depends on your operating system
#1656 [04:19] <genshou> I see a toggle feature in Craftbook
#1657 [04:19] <peeves> I have run it on here before and my computer did an auto update and after that it has not worked
#1658 [04:19] <genshou> but it doesn't seem to do what I would expect an NPC shop to?
#1659 [04:21] <Donny> GreyVulpine: How do I run PortMap? Cause I don't see an executable file.
#1660 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> PortMap?
#1661 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> What's that
#1662 [04:22] <Donny> It's the program the tutorial said to use in order to forward my ports.
#1663 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1664 [04:22] <Donny> If you know a better way, please, lend me your advice.
#1665 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> What OS?
#1666 [04:22] <Donny> Win7. On both the desktop and laptop.
#1667 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> On the computer that'll be running the server
#1668 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> Your desktop or laptop?
#1669 [04:23] <Donny> Desktop.
#1670 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> alright, on your Desktop, go to your start menu, type in "cmd" in the search bar
#1671 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> Press enter.
#1672 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> A black command prompt should appear
#1673 [04:23] <peeves> I have windows XP SP2 sadly
#1674 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> In there, type - ipconfig
#1675 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste the ipv4 address and default gateway here.
#1676 [04:24] <Donny> IPv4: 192.168.1.13
#1677 [04:24] <Donny> Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
#1678 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Great, you can close that command prompt now.
#1679 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Pull up a browser, go to http://192.168.1.254
#1680 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Let me know if it asks for a login.
#1681 [04:25] <Donny> I've been here before and I already logged in.
#1682 [04:25] <Donny> Next?
#1683 [04:25] <peeves> I believe it's my Adobe messing with my Game. Whenever my computer does an auto-update for adobe, after that it never works. Any help?
#1684 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Port forwarding page, or virtual server page
#1685 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Can you find one?
#1686 [04:25] <KillSpammer> HMod was update ages ago...
#1687 [04:25] <KillSpammer> Seriously
#1688 [04:26] <KillSpammer> I can't believe people are still using vanilla
#1689 [04:26] <Donny> I found the port page. It says NAT (Games and Other Services) I had to do this for XBox Live too.
#1690 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Right, okay.
#1691 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to port forward 25565/TCP to your 192.168.1.13 address
#1692 [04:27] <Donny> yeah, you lost me.
#1693 [04:27] <KillSpammer> Anyone need halp?
#1694 [04:27] <KillSpammer> :)
#1695 [04:27] <peeves> me
#1696 [04:27] <peeves> T_T
#1697 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Um. Add a new port forwarding rule
#1698 [04:27] <KillSpammer> Whats up peaves?
#1699 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> It's the same as how you did it for xbox live
#1700 [04:27] <peeves> I believe it's my Adobe messing with my Game. Whenever my computer does an auto-update for adobe, after that it never works. Any help?
#1701 [04:27] <KillSpammer> Uninstall all abobe applications
#1702 [04:28] <KillSpammer> And reinstall
#1703 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> If you could let me know what the page asks for, or even screenshot the page, that'd help
#1704 [04:28] <KillSpammer> Or whatever...
#1705 [04:28] <Donny> Is there a way we can Private Chat so I could send Screenshots?
#1706 [04:28] <KillSpammer> Donny,
#1707 [04:28] <KillSpammer> Whats your router name
#1708 [04:28] <genshou> kinky
#1709 [04:28] <Donny> Motorola.
#1710 [04:28] <KillSpammer> Got a number?
#1711 [04:28] <Donny> Not with me.
#1712 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Donny, PM
#1713 [04:29] <KillSpammer> Ok Donny
#1714 [04:29] <KillSpammer> Enter you default gateway in your chrome/firefox
#1715 [04:29] <KillSpammer> Or whatever
#1716 [04:29] <KillSpammer> User: Admin
#1717 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> He already has
#1718 [04:30] <KillSpammer> Pass: Nothing
#1719 [04:30] <KillSpammer> Ok
#1720 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> He's in
#1721 [04:30] <KillSpammer> Now to Routing
#1722 [04:30] <KillSpammer> Do you have routing?:
#1723 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> I'll take care of Donny.
#1724 [04:30] <KillSpammer> Ok.
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#1726 [04:32] <KillSpammer> Anyone need help with a problem?
#1727 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to ask, just wait :)
#1728 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Somebody'll come by
#1729 [04:32] <KillSpammer> People are shy!
#1730 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, no, they're not
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#1732 [04:32] <KillSpammer> Lol
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#1734 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Ok there Donny?
#1735 [04:33] <kermi> hey how do i make myself admin on my server
#1736 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> send an "op kermi" command in the console
#1737 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> or edit the ops.txt file to include "kermi"
#1738 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> (then reboot server)
#1739 [04:33] <kermi> i did
#1740 [04:33] <kermi> what are commands?
#1741 [04:34] <KillSpammer> Are you using hey0?
#1742 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> "help"
#1743 [04:34] <KillSpammer> Kermi
#1744 [04:34] <kermi> ni
#1745 [04:34] <kermi> no
#1746 [04:34] <kermi> also my friend cant build anything...
#1747 [04:34] <KillSpammer> Type /help in-game
#1748 [04:34] <kermi> it pops up and goes away
#1749 [04:34] <KillSpammer> Is he near spawn?
#1750 [04:35] <kermi> i can build tho
#1751 [04:35] <genshou> brrrr, cold in my room >.<;
#1752 [04:35] <kermi> and idk
#1753 [04:35] <genshou> I should have left Minecraft running to generate heat
#1754 [04:35] <KillSpammer> Set him op to?
#1755 [04:35] <kermi> gay lol
#1756 [04:35] <KillSpammer> Ingame you can type /op <name>
#1757 [04:35] <KillSpammer> Don't tell him he's an op?
#1758 [04:35] <KillSpammer> :)
#1759 [04:36] <kermi> also 1 more thin
#1760 [04:36] <kermi> thing
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#1762 [04:36] <kermi> with /help ingame stuff pops up but how do i scroll up
#1763 [04:36] <KillSpammer> You can't
#1764 [04:36] <KillSpammer> Its bugged
#1765 [04:36] <KillSpammer> Sort of
#1766 [04:36] <KillSpammer> Wait a second
#1767 [04:36] <kermi> kk
#1768 [04:36] <peeves> hi i have a question when i connect to a server then it says:"Failed to connect to the server.Connection refused: connect"
#1769 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> peeves - Then the server's down, or not accepting your connection
#1770 [04:37] <KillSpammer> Wrong ip peeves
#1771 [04:37] <KillSpammer> Or down...
#1772 [04:37] <KillSpammer> Kermi - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#1773 [04:37] <KillSpammer> SMP commands
#1774 [04:37] <kermi> ty
#1775 [04:37] <peeves> its my own server and he is online how can i get the right ip?
#1776 [04:37] <peeves> restart router?
#1777 [04:37] <KillSpammer> http://whatsmyip.com
#1778 [04:38] <KillSpammer> Enter: <yourip>:25565
#1779 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> don't need :25565
#1780 [04:38] <KillSpammer> Yeah but...
#1781 [04:38] <kermi> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=127226 u like?
#1782 [04:38] <KillSpammer> I like to put it htere
#1783 [04:38] <peeves> and then?i made my server on my own root server
#1784 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> needless keystrokes
#1785 [04:39] <peeves> my ip is 62.47.162.63
#1786 [04:39] <peeves> and now?
#1787 [04:39] <kermi> !check 62.47.162.63
#1788 [04:39] <peeves> ehm thats my ip :D and yes its my ip
#1789 [04:39] <KillSpammer> !check 62.47.162.63:25565
#1790 [04:40] <KillSpammer> :)
#1791 [04:40] <KillSpammer> Any...
#1792 [04:40] <peeves> !check 62.47.162.63
#1793 [04:40] <KillSpammer> Peeves
#1794 [04:40] <KillSpammer> Port fowarded?
#1795 [04:40] <peeves> ?
#1796 [04:40] <KillSpammer> ...
#1797 [04:40] <peeves> what for port?
#1798 [04:40] <KillSpammer> 25565
#1799 [04:41] <peeves> jeah what is with this port?
#1800 [04:41] <KillSpammer> With what port?
#1801 [04:41] <peeves> 25565
#1802 [04:41] <KillSpammer> What about it?
#1803 [04:41] <peeves> you said port forwarded
#1804 [04:41] <peeves> and then 25565
#1805 [04:42] <KillSpammer> Yes
#1806 [04:43] <KillSpammer> Port foward the port 25565
#1807 [04:43] <KillSpammer> Its the default port for minecraft servers
#1808 [04:43] <peeves> hm.. doesn't work
#1809 [04:43] <peeves> there is this error text too
#1810 [04:44] <peeves> yesterday it works fine but today it doesn't work
#1811 [04:45] <kermi> bradster.101@hotmail.com
#1812 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> peeves - www.pastebin.com the error text
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#1814 [04:46] <peeves> i cannot mark the text i only can make a screenshot
#1815 [04:46] <KillSpammer> Is it in console?
#1816 [04:47] <peeves> no
#1817 [04:47] <peeves> it is after connecting to server with the same background
#1818 [04:47] <kermi> added
#1819 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Then screenshot it, then upload it to imgur/tinypic
#1820 [04:47] <peeves> ok
#1821 [04:49] <peeves> http://i55.tinypic.com/119p9it.png
#1822 [04:49] <peeves> ...http://i55.tinypic.com/119p9it.png
#1823 [04:49] <peeves> ...i55.tinypic.com/119p9it.png
#1824 [04:49] <peeves> with http:// before the i55..
#1825 [04:50] <peeves> http://tinypic.com/r/119p9it/7
#1826 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, from the top. How are you connecting to this server?
#1827 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> This is yours, correct?
#1828 [04:53] <peeves> yes
#1829 [04:53] <peeves> i made it on my root server
#1830 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Where is it hosted, or running?
#1831 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Are you sitting at that computer right now?
#1832 [04:53] <peeves> netcup.de
#1833 [04:53] <peeves> its german
#1834 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so it's offsite somewhere.
#1835 [04:53] <peeves> i am sitting on my own computer
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#1837 [04:54] <KillSpammer> Bored...
#1838 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Is that server behind any firewall/routers/NAT?
#1839 [04:54] <peeves> yes i think so
#1840 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to configure that location to forward port 25565/TCP to that server.
#1841 [04:55] <peeves> i dont know what you mean
#1842 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> How are you accessing that server right now?
#1843 [04:56] <peeves> i dont make the server and i dont made the minecraft server i only bought the server for fun xD
#1844 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Remote desktop? SSH?
#1845 [04:56] <peeves> ssh
#1846 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> some admin console?
#1847 [04:56] <peeves> no
#1848 [04:56] <peeves> only putty
#1849 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Running *nix?
#1850 [04:56] <peeves> i dont know waht nix is
#1851 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> linux? unix?
#1852 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> What OS is it running?
#1853 [04:56] <peeves> the server is fine it is online linux
#1854 [04:57] <peeves> debian
#1855 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> ffff-
#1856 [04:57] <peeves> there are 3 people who are playing at the moment
#1857 [04:57] <peeves> but i cant play
#1858 [04:57] <peeves> ok 5 people
#1859 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you've got an IPv6 address.
#1860 [04:58] <KillSpammer> :S
#1861 [04:58] <peeves> but i played yesterday
#1862 [04:58] <peeves> and it worked
#1863 [04:58] <peeves> but why not today?
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#1865 [04:59] <KillSpammer> Dr.hax
#1866 [04:59] <KillSpammer> :)
#1867 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> With debian and java, it prefers the ipv6 stack, unless you've told it to go back to ipv4
#1868 [05:00] <peeves> and how i am the only player who can't play on the server
#1869 [05:00] <peeves> i make an router restart maybe then it works
#1870 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> How did you execute the minecraft_server.jar?
#1871 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you add -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true in the arguments?
#1872 [05:04] * aetherian bananas
#1872 [05:05] <aetherian> hmm
#1873 [05:05] <aetherian> a banana actually sounds good right now
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#1876 [05:07] <peeves> ok i made an router restart but now its the same error too -.-
#1877 [05:07] <KillSpammar> :S
#1878 [05:12] <aetherian> brb
#1879 [05:12] <KillSpammar> :O
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#1881 [05:13] <aetherian> mmk
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#1884 [05:19] <peeves> what must i make to play on my server?
#1885 [05:19] <aetherian> what do you mean?
#1886 [05:19] <peeves> i cant play: http://tinypic.com/r/119p9it/7
#1887 [05:20] <aetherian> erm
#1888 [05:20] <Z4kku> Server may be down
#1889 [05:20] <aetherian> are you hosting the server?
#1890 [05:20] <peeves> yes with a root server
#1891 [05:20] <aetherian> and you're typing the ip in correctly?
#1892 [05:20] <peeves> yes
#1893 [05:20] <peeves> 78.47.189.180
#1894 [05:20] <Z4kku> Okay, check the port
#1895 [05:21] <Z4kku> Did you open one with your router?
#1896 [05:21] <peeves> 25565
#1897 [05:21] <peeves> ?
#1898 [05:21] <peeves> i bought a root server
#1899 [05:21] <peeves> just for fun to make any gameserver on it
#1900 [05:21] <Z4kku> Ah
#1901 [05:21] <peeves> yesterday i was able to play on the server
#1902 [05:22] <peeves> but know i dont can play on the server and i dont know why
#1903 [05:22] <Z4kku> Type "ps x"
#1904 [05:22] <Z4kku> See if it is still running
#1905 [05:22] <peeves> where?
#1906 [05:22] <Z4kku> In the terminal
#1907 [05:22] <peeves> jeah the server is running there are still 5 or more people there and play
#1908 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> I can't connect.
#1909 [05:23] <Z4kku> I can't connect to that IP either
#1910 [05:23] <peeves> 25231 pts/22 Ssl+ 128:25 java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar Minecraft_Mod.jar nogui
#1911 [05:23] <peeves> hm...
#1912 [05:23] <peeves> 2011-01-06 10:10:03 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? 2011-01-06 10:10:41 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? 2011-01-06 10:14:44 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? 2011-01-06 10:17:05 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the sy
#1913 [05:23] <Z4kku> I would restart it because it could be the 100% CPU usage crap causing it to be latent.
#1914 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> peeves - You said you were running debian?
#1915 [05:24] <peeves> yes
#1916 [05:24] <peeves> on the server
#1917 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you add -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true in the arguments?
#1918 [05:24] <peeves> hm... no
#1919 [05:24] <peeves> should i?
#1920 [05:24] <peeves> i make it down and add it
#1921 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> debian and java does default to the ipv6 stack
#1922 [05:24] <Z4kku> Kill the process and start it again, because I think the memory leak issues are causing it to mess up.
#1923 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> The warnings are normal
#1924 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> everybody gets them
#1925 [05:25] <peeves> ok
#1926 [05:25] <peeves> i have it
#1927 [05:25] <Z4kku> For me, that's usually when it is getting buggy
#1928 [05:25] <Z4kku> Like, memory leaks until the CPU hits 100%
#1929 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Still can't connect
#1930 [05:25] <peeves> but i am not able to connect the same error too now
#1931 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that's the right IP?
#1932 [05:26] <Z4kku> Btw, I wasn't saying that because of the errors.
#1933 [05:26] <peeves> yes
#1934 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> can you type "ifconfig" in the ssh window?
#1935 [05:26] <peeves> no
#1936 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> no?
#1937 [05:26] <peeves> ups
#1938 [05:26] <peeves> yes
#1939 [05:26] <peeves> :D
#1940 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> What is the ip address listed there?
#1941 [05:27] <peeves> 78.47.189.180
#1942 [05:27] <peeves> inet Adresse:78.47.189.180
#1943 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1944 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> So that server is connected directly, not behind any routers.
#1945 [05:28] <peeves> no
#1946 [05:28] <peeves> from netcup.de
#1947 [05:28] <peeves> i have too counter strike source gameservers and one killing floor server they are all working fine
#1948 [05:30] <aetherian> ping pong, a tale of two impudent phils
#1949 [05:30] <aetherian> ...badjoke...heh...
#1950 [05:31] <peeves> and any results?
#1951 [05:32] <aetherian> no one laughs at my jokes...
#1952 [05:32] <aetherian> ah, well.
#1953 [05:32] <peeves> my ip address is 91.115.106.8 mybe its something wrong with it?
#1954 [05:32] <peeves> mybe i cant connect with this ip but i made a router restart and now it too doesn't work
#1955 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> I can't connect either peeves
#1956 [05:33] <peeves> jeah but why and know noboddy is on my server no one can connect
#1957 [05:33] <peeves> or no 2 players are playing at the moment
#1958 [05:35] <aetherian> what's past tense for the slang "this bites", it bit? it has bitten? it bote?
#1959 [05:35] <aetherian> the questions that drive humanity
#1960 [05:35] <aetherian> well, it's 2:35, night guys
#1961 [05:36] <peeves> my time is 11:36 am because i am from austria :D
#1962 [05:37] <aetherian> hmm
#1963 [05:37] <aetherian> that's odd
#1964 [05:38] * aetherian is away: it's off to that land... you know... second star to the right? straight on until someone murders you in your sleep?
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#1966 [05:41] <superboy13> Hello
#1967 [05:41] <superboy13> Question please
#1968 [05:41] <lemon-rev> just ask please
#1969 [05:41] <lemon-rev> lol
#1970 [05:42] <peeves> yes i have a question not finished
#1971 [05:42] <superboy13> lol ok firstly....
#1972 [05:42] <superboy13> 1sec forgot my question
#1973 [05:42] <peeves> i cant connect to my server on an root server
#1974 [05:42] <lemon-rev> lol
#1975 [05:42] <lemon-rev> peeves
#1976 [05:42] <lemon-rev> hm, on your root server or someone elses
#1977 [05:42] <peeves> i bought a root server a long time ago just for fun for any gameservers
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#1979 [05:42] <peeves> root server
#1980 [05:42] <superboy13> oh yeah thats right ok
#1981 [05:42] <lemon-rev> hm
#1982 [05:42] <peeves> and yesterday i playes fine without any errors
#1983 [05:43] <superboy13> i was given hey0 and then he gave me this http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=21
#1984 [05:43] <peeves> but today i cant connect
#1985 [05:43] <superboy13> idk anything about plugins
#1986 [05:43] <peeves> http://i55.tinypic.com/119p9it.png
#1987 [05:43] <lemon-rev> we dont deal with plug ins here superboy
#1988 [05:43] <peeves> http://tinypic.com/r/119p9it/7
#1989 [05:43] <superboy13> wait idk about em tho
#1990 [05:43] <superboy13> wat are they good for?
#1991 [05:43] <lemon-rev> making mincecraft look different
#1992 [05:44] <lemon-rev> ok peeves
#1993 [05:44] <superboy13> i c
#1994 [05:44] <lemon-rev> whats the ip your ment to be useing to connect you said it worked yesterday just fine
#1995 [05:44] <peeves> thats the start command for my server
#1996 [05:44] <peeves> screen java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar Minecraft_Mod.jar nogui -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
#1997 [05:44] <peeves> 91.115.106.8
#1998 [05:44] <lemon-rev> has the server or the ip changed since then
#1999 [05:44] <peeves> i made a router restart too
#2000 [05:44] <lemon-rev> !check 91.115.106.8
#2001 [05:45] <peeves> i made a router restart but before i made it i wasn't able to connect
#2002 [05:45] <lemon-rev> ok, can you make a direct connection with out the router
#2003 [05:45] <peeves> dont know how
#2004 [05:45] <lemon-rev> well yuo still cant
#2005 [05:45] <superboy13> hey
#2006 [05:45] <superboy13> iconomy good with rp servers?
#2007 [05:45] <lemon-rev> yes superboy
#2008 [05:45] <peeves> no i dont know how?
#2009 [05:46] <superboy13> kk
#2010 [05:46] <lemon-rev> hm
#2011 [05:46] <lemon-rev> the thing your trying to connect though, have you always run though it
#2012 [05:46] <lemon-rev> ?
#2013 [05:46] <superboy13> question
#2014 [05:46] <peeves> yes
#2015 [05:46] <superboy13> can i have like iconomy and cuboid
#2016 [05:46] <lemon-rev> superboy i cant tell you those things
#2017 [05:47] <lemon-rev> hm
#2018 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> Mods aren't officially supported here.
#2019 [05:47] <lemon-rev> whats the make and number of the thing your runing though
#2020 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> but yes, iconomy and cuboid can run at the same time.
#2021 [05:47] <superboy13> wait i just wish to have the thing where ppl can break my shit lol
#2022 [05:47] <superboy13> hey0
#2023 [05:47] <peeves> how can i see it?
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#2025 [05:48] <lemon-rev> hm
#2026 [05:48] <lemon-rev> look at the box
#2027 [05:48] <lemon-rev> and tell me what make it is
#2028 [05:48] <lemon-rev> and maybe model number
#2029 [05:49] <peeves> ok
#2030 [05:52] <peeves> hm... its from telekomaustria a white router wait a moment...
#2031 [05:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#2032 [05:52] <lemon-rev> Fixed Net and Mobile Communications - Telekom Austria Group < bing
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#2034 [05:57] <genshou> I make NO apologies for editing and uploading this: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/jesuschristitsacreeper.jpg
#2035 [05:58] <KillSpammer> Hmmm...
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#2037 [05:58] <genshou> Memes are fun :D
#2038 [05:59] * genshou came up with the idea when a creeper suddenly leapt at him inside what was supposed to be a safe mine (luckily the creeper had fail jumping skills and ended up missing the stairway by about a metre)
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#2042 [06:21] <peeves> ok i am back i dont know what make it is
#2043 [06:22] <peeves> but i know its a white router from telekom austria
#2044 [06:22] <peeves> i dont found anything on their homepage about routers -.-
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#2046 [06:30] <KillSpammer> Clone is back.
#2047 [06:30] <KillSpammer> :S
#2048 [06:32] <clone1018> clone ping
#2049 [06:35] <peeves> are you here?i know what router i have its a pirelli
#2050 [06:35] <peeves> GreyVulpine are you here?
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#2052 [06:38] <peeves> can anybody help me?
#2053 [06:40] <peeves> i have a problem i cant play minecraft:http://i55.tinypic.com/119p9it.png
#2054 [06:41] <peeves> its a root server i bought a half year ago just for fun to make any game server on it.
#2055 [06:41] <peeves> i played yesterday minecraft without any errors
#2056 [06:41] <peeves> bu today it doesn't
#2057 [06:42] <peeves> is anybody here?
#2058 [06:42] <peeves> hello!!
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#2060 [06:43] <peeves> hi
#2061 [06:43] <peeves> GreyVulpine i know now what my router is
#2062 [06:43] <peeves> its a pinelli
#2063 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#2064 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> But you're not hosting it at home, are you?
#2065 [06:43] <peeves> no
#2066 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> You're hosting it at some hosting site
#2067 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Which isn't behind a NAT
#2068 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> It's got its own ip
#2069 [06:44] <peeves> i said i host it on my root server i bought a half year ago
#2070 [06:44] <peeves> ?
#2071 [06:44] <peeves> ups its a pirelli
#2072 [06:45] <peeves> and know?
#2073 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what you want me to say. I can't connect, I have no idea why others can
#2074 [06:45] <peeves> jeah i wonder too why i cant
#2075 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Talk to your hosting company.
#2076 [06:45] <peeves> whats wrong with this world?
#2077 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> See if they're doing anything
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#2079 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> That's really all I can offer.
#2080 [06:46] <peeves> but the router is fine we didn't do anything on it
#2081 [06:46] <peeves> must i open any ports?
#2082 [06:46] <peeves> which ports must i open in the router
#2083 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Again, your server isn't behind a route
#2084 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> r
#2085 [06:47] <peeves> yes
#2086 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> I don't know why you insist on going back to it
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#2095 [07:23] <FlotCom> Hey, I have a quick question. If you lose your Username and password is there anyway to get them back? if you give the credit card/paypal information will you be able to get your username info?
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#2102 [07:42] <Solvius> hi, if I leave eggs alone, where they where dropped by a chicken will and then hatch, and give me another chicken ?
#2103 [07:43] <fogwraith> ... or a manbearpig?
#2104 [07:43] * fogwraith doesn't really know that one
#2104 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> If you throw the egg, there's a chance it'll hatch
#2105 [07:43] <Solvius> or do need to throw them to get a chicken
#2106 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2107 [07:44] <fogwraith> Morning Grey
#2108 [07:44] <Solvius> ok thnx GreyVulpine
#2109 [07:44] <Solvius> I am making a fram now, with pigs cows, chickens and grain :)
#2110 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Mornin' Gov'na
#2111 [07:44] <fogwraith> And creepers? ;)
#2112 [07:44] <Solvius> But a dung heap is difficult
#2113 [07:45] <Solvius> creepers do I keep away with torches
#2114 [07:45] <fogwraith> They kind of ignore them ;/
#2115 [07:45] <Solvius> trying to figure out a trap with fences for the creepers, then me mates will come and we hunt them :)
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#2117 [07:46] <GhostRfile> hi
#2118 [07:46] <Solvius> hoi
#2119 [07:46] <fogwraith> Oi!
#2120 [07:49] <mbentley> howdy
#2121 [07:49] <GhostRfile> i cant connect to minecraft and the webside is very strange: http://i52.tinypic.com/28c3k7c.png can somebody hellp me, i was here yesterday before when some pl. tried to help me, the last advise was to search for malware bt nothing helped till now
#2122 [07:50] <fogwraith> Haha, thats too funny
#2123 [07:50] * fogwraith checks too
#2123 [07:50] <fogwraith> Aw ;(
#2124 [07:50] <mbentley> what happens when you remove the /cgi-sys.. junk at the end?
#2125 [07:51] <GhostRfile> nothing i typ by my self minecraft.net in the browser and come to this cpanel
#2126 [07:51] <mbentley> what about if you try 'www.minecraft.net' ?
#2127 [07:51] <GhostRfile> the same
#2128 [07:51] <fogwraith> Your routing shat itself
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#2130 [07:51] <GhostRfile> and if i write the ip http://194.28.157.42/ i got bad gateway zen
#2131 [07:52] <GhostRfile> what can i do?
#2132 [07:52] <mbentley> GhostRfile: could you install this firefox plugin? >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/590/
#2133 [07:52] <mbentley> it will show what your browser thinks the ip address for the site is
#2134 [07:52] <GhostRfile> ok one moment pls
#2135 [07:52] <fogwraith> mbentley: nice addon, ima get that :P
#2136 [07:53] <mbentley> :)
#2137 [07:54] <mbentley> i still think something is hijacking dns somehow...
#2138 [07:54] <GhostRfile> ok i got how do i see the ip
#2139 [07:54] <mbentley> just go to the minecraft.net page
#2140 [07:54] <mbentley> it will show in the status bar
#2141 [07:55] <GhostRfile> ahh its 99.198.121.104
#2142 [07:55] <mbentley> that would be a problem
#2143 [07:55] <mbentley> have you checked firefox's proxy settings?
#2144 [07:55] <GhostRfile> no proxy
#2145 [07:55] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2145 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> mbentley - Talk him through looking at his HOSTS file
#2146 [07:55] <mbentley> might want to check your hosts file
#2147 [07:55] <mbentley> yeah
#2148 [07:56] <GhostRfile> ok how?
#2149 [07:57] <mbentley> go to start and type in 'notepad c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts' (without the quotes)
#2150 [07:57] <mbentley> hopefully that path is the same in your version of windows...
#2151 [07:57] <GhostRfile> i think so its win7
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#2153 [07:57] <mbentley> i remember program files was spelled differently :)
#2154 [07:58] <GhostRfile> yeah ;D
#2155 [07:58] <GhostRfile> ahhh there is minecraft in this file, should i delete the minecraft lines?
#2156 [07:58] <fogwraith> Yes :P
#2157 [07:59] <mbentley> ^^
#2158 [07:59] <Eskalior> My friend cant talk at my server and i cant see him walking... does any1 know what to do?
#2159 [07:59] <GhostRfile> with the bad ip, this was a very very bad man :D
#2160 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Eskalior - Delete his profile.
#2161 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> See if it helps
#2162 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> It's in world/players/
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#2164 [07:59] <Eskalior> okay i try thx ;]
#2165 [07:59] <mbentley> might rename just in case
#2166 [08:00] <GhostRfile> now it say minecraft not found error404, is that normal because minecraft is down right now?
#2167 [08:01] <mbentley> it is up for me
#2168 [08:01] <GhostRfile> :(
#2169 [08:01] <mbentley> just try it again
#2170 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> GhostRfile - Could you www.pastebin.com that hosts file?
#2171 [08:01] <mbentley> do a ctrl + F5
#2172 [08:02] <GhostRfile> @greyVulpine i do one moment pls
#2173 [08:02] <GhostRfile> @mbenthley it dont work
#2174 [08:02] <GhostRfile> ahhh with opera now it works
#2175 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, there you go
#2176 [08:03] <GhostRfile> and i can connect again
#2177 [08:03] <mbentley> cool
#2178 [08:03] <GhostRfile> u guys are so great
#2179 [08:03] <GhostRfile> :D
#2180 [08:03] <GhostRfile> this support chat is amazing
#2181 [08:03] <GhostRfile> Thank you for you help!
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#2183 [08:03] <mbentley> np
#2184 [08:03] * GreyVulpine highfives mbentley.
#2184 [08:04] <mbentley> yay teamwork :)
#2185 [08:04] * fogwraith ducttapes them together
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#2187 [08:18] <Qri_> Hi, is there a way to leave minecraft running in background, so I can spend the game-night dooing something else? (in osx)
#2188 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2189 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Leave your inventory window open when you esc out
#2190 [08:20] <Qri_> thank you
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#2193 [08:37] <ConMan8> Can I has personal SHUT UP BOT?
#2194 [08:37] <ConMan8> Kealper[OFF]
#2195 [08:37] <ConMan8> get on
#2196 [08:37] <ConMan8> D:<
#2197 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Need something ConMan8?
#2198 [08:39] <ConMan8> I want the bot to not spam me whenever I join the channel
#2199 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> /ignore AuBot?
#2200 [08:40] <ConMan8> But then I'll miss out on its commands
#2201 [08:41] <mbentley> never leave?
#2202 [08:41] <mbentley> :)
#2203 [08:43] <fogwraith> :P
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#2206 [08:58] <bellows> Can anyone help me?
#2207 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Ask question. Leave minute after.
#2208 [08:59] <ConMan8> 36 seconds is hardly a minute
#2209 [09:00] <ConMan8> They were connected for 58 seconds
#2210 [09:00] <ConMan8> They didn't even get to the minute milestone
#2211 [09:00] <ConMan8> :|
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#2214 [09:05] <mbentley> oh silly people...
#2215 [09:05] <mbentley> i haven't lotted on using mibbit so i am not sure how obvious or not obvious the AuBot messages are
#2216 [09:05] <mbentley> *logged
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#2219 [09:35] <xales> mbentley: very obvious :/
#2220 [09:36] <xales> and in ugly colors too that contrast nicely with mibbits garbage color scheme
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#2222 [09:38] <fogwraith> Oh for... thumbs up to awesome lightbulbs, complete darkness apart from the monitor \o/
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#2227 [10:14] <fogwraith> Nexon Europe is made out of pure ass & poo
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#2242 [11:35] <ownd_mp3> Hi
#2243 [11:35] <CruelNoise> hi
#2244 [11:35] <ownd_mp3> can any one help me?
#2245 [11:36] <ownd_mp3> when i play minecraft after 2mins it closed
#2246 [11:36] <ownd_mp3> with a error
#2247 [11:36] <ownd_mp3> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2248 [11:36] <CruelNoise> Put it in pastebin
#2249 [11:37] <ownd_mp3> http://pastebin.com/imSc3qF5
#2250 [11:38] <ownd_mp3> is this enough or u need more of them report?
#2251 [11:39] <CruelNoise> just put the whole thing in pastebin.
#2252 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> so
#2253 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> http://pastebin.com/p4aswsx3
#2254 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> thats all
#2255 [11:40] <CruelNoise> I'm not sure if I'll be able to help you; I don't know that much aboud java, but there are a few experts in here, so you have a better chance the longer you wait.
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#2257 [11:40] <CruelNoise> let's take a look
#2258 [11:40] <Kealper> reinstall java
#2259 [11:40] <mbentley> update your ati video drivers
#2260 [11:40] <Kealper> and what he said
#2261 [11:40] <mbentley> # C [atioglxx.dll+0x7270d]
#2262 [11:40] <mbentley> ^^ati drivers
#2263 [11:40] * GreyVulpine agrees with mbentley
#2263 [11:40] <Eskalior> I need help. My friend cant talk in my server and i cant see him walk.
#2264 [11:40] <CruelNoise> ah, experts.
#2265 [11:40] <Kealper> yea yea i didn't pay attention
#2266 [11:40] <mbentley> :D
#2267 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> ok ty
#2268 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> i will do it
#2269 [11:40] <ownd_mp3> bye
#2270 [11:41] <Kealper> i just glanced, seen crash happened in native code lol
#2271 [11:41] <Eskalior> Does anyone know what to do?
#2272 [11:41] <Kealper> Eskalior: O.o....does he time out and disconnect after a few seconds?
#2273 [11:42] <Eskalior> yes
#2274 [11:42] <Kealper> Eskalior: is it just him that it happens to? or has anyone else tried?
#2275 [11:42] <Eskalior> noone else tried it. do you want to try?
#2276 [11:42] <Kealper> sure, ip?
#2277 [11:43] <Eskalior> 87.171.120.164
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#2280 [11:44] <interested> good evening
#2281 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> evenin'
#2282 [11:45] <interested> I am interested in Minecraft
#2283 [11:45] <CruelNoise> No kidding.
#2284 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear, anything we can help you with?
#2285 [11:45] <interested> ?
#2286 [11:45] <interested> yes, I missed the alpha packet
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#2288 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> You certainly did
#2289 [11:45] <interested> when I would buy the beta packet I have to buy all the dlcs? Will they be very expensive?
#2290 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> No you don't
#2291 [11:46] <Nitrous09> hello
#2292 [11:46] <Kealper> hello Nitrous09
#2293 [11:46] <CruelNoise> They're not DLCs
#2294 [11:46] <CruelNoise> They're just updates.
#2295 [11:46] <interested> and updates are buyable?
#2296 [11:46] <interested> or free for all?
#2297 [11:46] <xales> updates past release (there may not be any)
#2298 [11:46] <xales> will NOT be free to beta
#2299 [11:46] <interested> hallo Nitrous09
#2300 [11:46] <xales> everything else is
#2301 [11:47] <interested> so when I buy the beta packet there will be costs in the future
#2302 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> updates/bug fixes/and the final release, will be all free to alpha and beta
#2303 [11:47] <xales> there may be optional costs
#2304 [11:47] <Nitrous09> i tryed to download a texture pack and now its saying MC crashed how do i fix it
#2305 [11:47] <xales> there is no certainty that there will be further updates
#2306 [11:47] <Kealper> Nitrous09: what texture pack?
#2307 [11:48] <interested> so there aren't differences between alpha and beta?
#2308 [11:48] <Nitrous09> ill have to find it again
#2309 [11:48] <xales> interested: the only difference is how much of the later versions you get free
#2310 [11:49] <xales> there isn't a difference for a long time, until the game is finished
#2311 [11:49] <Kealper> !reinstall
#2312 [11:49] <xales> which could be a few years
#2313 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> the only difference is, people who pay in alpha, will get any future expansions (undisclosed at how many, or if they even exist) for free
#2314 [11:49] <Kealper> Eskalior: give your friend that link
#2315 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> beta users, will need to pay for it
#2316 [11:49] <interested> Grey, will this be very expensive?
#2317 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> We don't know
#2318 [11:49] <interested> ok
#2319 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> There are no plans as of right now
#2320 [11:50] <interested> besides I am not a player which a lot of time per day. Is it enough when I spend 1 hour in the game or is this to less?
#2321 [11:50] <Nitrous09> it was JohnSmith's Textures Pack
#2322 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> This is not an MMO
#2323 [11:50] <xales> it is however much you want to play
#2324 [11:50] <xales> that is up to you
#2325 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't matter how much time you spend
#2326 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> It's creative legos, however long you want to spend, is up to you
#2327 [11:51] <interested> that's good because in games like guild wars you were forced to stay a period of time
#2328 [11:51] <xales> minecraft is a completely different kind of game than guild wars
#2329 [11:51] <xales> you can pause and save at any point
#2330 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Again, this is nothing like an MMO
#2331 [11:52] <interested> I watched a movie about Minecraft. How I know which kind of material I have to compare with to get a axe or a sword?
#2332 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Check the wiki
#2333 [11:52] <interested> Grey, I talked about gw only because of the need of time
#2334 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tools
#2335 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> I understand that
#2336 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Beta's 15 euros right now
#2337 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> It's a good deal, it'll only go up in the end
#2338 [11:54] <CruelNoise> Do beta buyers get release?
#2339 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2340 [11:54] <CruelNoise> okay
#2341 [11:54] <interested> When I decide now to buy the game. How can I buy it? I am not in option to use paypal or credit card. When I did online shopping I used paysafecard
#2342 [11:54] <CruelNoise> So... What's the difference between beta and alpha?
#2343 [11:54] <interested> Cruel, I'll buy it only when I get the release ;-)
#2344 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> the only difference is, people who pay in alpha, will get any future expansions (undisclosed at how many, or if they even exist) for free
#2345 [11:54] <mbentley> alpha = free updates forever
#2346 [11:54] <CruelNoise> Okay.
#2347 [11:55] <CruelNoise> interested: I think that paypal should be able to interface with that, let me check
#2348 [11:55] <interested> mbentley, I understand updates as a very service for a game. expansions are something you get for money (for alpha free)
#2349 [11:55] <mbentley> yup
#2350 [11:56] <interested> mbentley, than the beta and release buyer will get updates as well
#2351 [11:56] <xales> CruelNoise: it cannot, I believe
#2352 [11:56] <mbentley> this i know
#2353 [11:56] <mbentley> ;)
#2354 [11:56] <interested> xales: that would be to good
#2355 [11:56] <CruelNoise> I found a forum post that supposedly details a way to do it, xales.
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#2357 [11:56] <CruelNoise> I haven't read through it, I'll leave that to you.
#2358 [11:56] <CruelNoise> http://l2topzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=567.0
#2359 [11:57] <interested> do you think that Notch will provide a support for paysafecard in the future?
#2360 [11:57] <xales> very unlikely
#2361 [11:57] <interested> why not?
#2362 [11:57] <CruelNoise> http://www.warrockshop.com/index.php?showtopic=19330
#2363 [11:57] <xales> an extremely small number of people us it
#2364 [11:57] <mbentley> i've never heard of it myself
#2365 [11:57] <xales> if many, many people used it, like Visa or Mastercard, it would support it
#2366 [11:57] <CruelNoise> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100822033840AAp6wvm
#2367 [11:58] <CruelNoise> Tell me if any of those give you the answer.
#2368 [11:59] <interested> xales, maybe but ask steam how good the sell games because of supporting paysafecard
#2369 [11:59] <mbentley> they also sell a crap load of games :)
#2370 [12:00] <interested> why they don't sell minecraft ;-)
#2371 [12:01] <interested> not because of crap, only because of wide varity of customers
#2372 [12:01] <xales> minecraft isnt finished
#2373 [12:01] <xales> so steam won't sell it
#2374 [12:01] <interested> ok than I have a problem: no paypal, no credit card
#2375 [12:01] <interested> I don't like to connect paypal with my finance
#2376 [12:01] <mbentley> crap ton = many games (talking about quantity of the games, not quality ;))
#2377 [12:01] <xales> then get a debit card for your bank account?
#2378 [12:01] <interested> debit?
#2379 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Last time I checked, you didn't need to connect it
#2380 [12:02] <interested> Grey, how I can fill my paypal account than?
#2381 [12:02] <Eskalior> Help me please. My friend cant talk in my server, i cant see him walk and he get disconnects. he already reinstalled it ._.
#2382 [12:02] <mbentley> should be able to do a one time payment through paypal i believe
#2383 [12:02] <xales> Eskalior: does he have a firewall?
#2384 [12:02] <interested> hm I will check this
#2385 [12:02] <interested> I don't want to lose my money for nothing
#2386 [12:02] <xales> mbentley: can't, you have to go through the stupid bank verification thing to send e-check
#2387 [12:03] <xales> which takes a week or more
#2388 [12:03] <mbentley> was thinking of a one time credit card payment
#2389 [12:03] <mbentley> could be wrong
#2390 [12:03] <xales> you can do that
#2391 [12:03] <Eskalior> he deactivated the firewall
#2392 [12:03] <xales> he doesn't have a credit card
#2393 [12:03] <xales> Eskalior: can he connect to other servers?
#2394 [12:03] <interested> credit card means = visa, mastercard
#2395 [12:03] <mbentley> ah, didn't catch that...
#2396 [12:03] <Eskalior> connect but there he cant do anything too
#2397 [12:04] <xales> Eskalior: then it is a problem with his connection
#2398 [12:04] <xales> or his computer
#2399 [12:04] <interested> is Notch supporting amazon paying?
#2400 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> No
#2401 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> the non-paypal credit card thing was only a recent development
#2402 [12:04] <Eskalior> xales can he do anything?
#2403 [12:04] <mbentley> the more forms of payment, the higher the cost for him
#2404 [12:04] <xales> Eskalior: yes. however, diagnosing connection issues over the internet through a middleman isn't exactly easy
#2405 [12:05] <Eskalior> and what can he do? enter the irc?
#2406 [12:05] <DopeGhoti> Eskalior: Is this on your server? Any relevant log entries you could pastebin?
#2407 [12:05] <Eskalior> its not just on my server
#2408 [12:05] <Eskalior> also on others
#2409 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> You sure about that?
#2410 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> yes, but I doubt you could post server log entries from other servers :p
#2411 [12:06] <interested> Grey, when I want to register a paypal account I have to say him my bank account number and so on
#2412 [12:06] <xales> interested: no you don't
#2413 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> I still don't have to register a bank account with my paypal
#2414 [12:06] <xales> you clicked the wrong option, interested
#2415 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> And i've had it for years now
#2416 [12:07] <Eskalior> Dopeghoti you say i should send you a file?
#2417 [12:07] <interested> xales, what I have to click right?
#2418 [12:07] <interested> Grey, how you can pay with paypal?
#2419 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> I pay it off with a credit card
#2420 [12:07] <xales> interested: you do not click on "add bank account" or "verify"
#2421 [12:07] <xales> that is all
#2422 [12:07] <xales> Eskalior: have your friend come on IRC
#2423 [12:07] <Eskalior> i tell him to come
#2424 [12:09] <interested> xales,
#2425 [12:10] <xales> ?
#2426 [12:10] <interested> in USA you haven't to say anything about your bank account
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#2428 [12:10] <xales> you don't need to in other countries either
#2429 [12:10] <interested> but when I chose another country there are more field for example bank account
#2430 [12:11] <Eskalior> my friend is eating....
#2431 [12:11] <mnmlst> Hi, when i try to connect to my server i get "Kicking *** You need to log in!". Verify names is set to false.
#2432 [12:11] <xales> leave them blank interested
#2433 [12:11] <xales> mnmlst: are you using the right server?
#2434 [12:12] <mnmlst> +xales: got it from here http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#2435 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Wrong server, that's classic
#2436 [12:12] <xales> ^
#2437 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> You want beta
#2438 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> It's on the Download page, same page where you got the client
#2439 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> bottom of the page
#2440 [12:13] <mnmlst> -.- ^^ thanks
#2441 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> interested - I don't see a bank account field when I chose Germany
#2442 [12:15] <interested> grey, moment
#2443 [12:16] * xales stabs GreyVulpine
#2443 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> ow?
#2444 [12:16] <PandaBear> Grey, you're from Germany? <3
#2445 [12:16] <xales> indeed. it should have hurt
#2446 [12:16] <xales> PandaBear: /whois GreyVulpine
#2447 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> No, I'm not from germany... >.>
#2448 [12:17] <interested> PandaBear, you are?
#2449 [12:18] <interested> hm he isn't too ^^
#2450 [12:18] <xales> GreyVulpine is from Michigan, PandaBear
#2451 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> interested - This is what I see when I choose Germany.
#2452 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/bfdEu.png" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" />
#2453 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> bah
#2454 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/bfdEu.png
#2455 [12:18] <xales> LOL
#2456 [12:18] <interested> ?
#2457 [12:18] <xales> go to that link
#2458 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> As far as google translate says, none of those fields asks for a bank account
#2459 [12:19] <xales> Grey, do you know of zscreen?
#2460 [12:19] <interested> you chose "Käufer"?
#2461 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> I chose, what?
#2462 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> I don't speak German, sorry.
#2463 [12:19] <interested> ^^
#2464 [12:19] <xales> its a program, will capture printscreen instead of windows, and when you take the screenshot it will upload to an image sharing service or FTP, and put an http link in your clipboard to it :D
#2465 [12:20] <interested> because you chose translater
#2466 [12:20] <xales> keep in mind IRC is technically ASCII-only
#2467 [12:20] <xales> 12:19:19 < interested> you chose "K###er"?
#2468 [12:20] <interested> ^^
#2469 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Shows up fine here
#2470 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Your font sucks xales
#2471 [12:20] <interested> Kaeufer
#2472 [12:21] <interested> ok it is no problem I just have to wait when minecraft is able to buy over steam ;-)
#2473 [12:21] <xales> GreyVulpine: Monaco is a nice font
#2474 [12:21] <xales> it supports unicode
#2475 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2476 [12:21] <xales> I'm just too lazy to turn it on in irssi
#2477 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> interested - Then you might be waiting for a long time
#2478 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> By then, the price will certainly have gone up.
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#2480 [12:22] <interested> I have no other chance I suppose
#2481 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> And yeah, apparently I chose the first option
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#2483 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> For "personal" use
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#2485 [12:23] <interested> ?
#2486 [12:23] <interested> ah ok
#2487 [12:23] <interested> moment
#2488 [12:23] <interested> I will do the same as you
#2489 [12:23] <interested> maybe we will get a context ;-)
#2490 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Käufer
#2491 [12:23] <ssen> why are you buying in german?
#2492 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Just trying to prove that you don't need a bank account for paypal
#2493 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Even in germany
#2494 [12:24] <interested> ssen, the same when you buy in English because you are from England ^^
#2495 [12:24] <ssen> Say what
#2496 [12:24] <ssen> I'm english
#2497 [12:24] <ssen> I had no idea
#2498 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> interested is from Germany.
#2499 [12:24] <ssen> Oh.
#2500 [12:24] <ssen> That makes more sense.
#2501 [12:24] * GreyVulpine hehes
#2501 [12:24] <ssen> A lot more sense, in fact.
#2502 [12:25] <LeoKhenir> Regarding portals to Nether: I made 1, entered, walked 48 tiles in the Nether, created a second portal frame but did not ignite, walked back to the first portal, but came out a totally different place than I first made a portal in the overworld.
#2503 [12:25] <ssen> MORE SENSE THAN DOLLARS
#2504 [12:25] <ssen> Sorry, I had to make the joke.
#2505 [12:25] <interested> I have problems to say this because there are some people who have problems with the past
#2506 [12:25] <LeoKhenir> Anybody got a tip? :)
#2507 [12:25] <PandaBear> Leo
#2508 [12:25] <xales> LeoKhenir: look on the minecraft wiki about how portals work
#2509 [12:25] <ssen> Use the force
#2510 [12:25] <PandaBear> I think once a portal is made
#2511 [12:25] <PandaBear> it doesn't need igniting to appear
#2512 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> LeoKhenir - This a recently updated version of minecraft?
#2513 [12:25] <PandaBear> in the "real" world
#2514 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> And yes it does
#2515 [12:26] <ssen> I'm gonna go eat some babies
#2516 [12:26] <ssen> brb
#2517 [12:26] <LeoKhenir> GreyVulpine: 1.1_02, it says
#2518 [12:26] <LeoKhenir> also, I went back to the Nether, igniting my second frame to see if that resolved it, but then I came out a totally different place.
#2519 [12:26] <mnmlst> Now it works... does the server.properties values for claassic also work for alpha? (server-name)? Can i make the server private or pw protected?
#2520 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> mnmlst - No mnmlst, not all values in classic appear in alpha/beta
#2521 [12:26] <xales> mnmlst: you can use a mod to do that. some of them do, some do not
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#2523 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> LeoKhenir - Back then, portals were bugged, but that was fixed in later versions
#2524 [12:28] <Krup> any specialists in mob traps? mine is broken, and I want to show someone that might know whats wrong with it
#2525 [12:28] <LeoKhenir> GreyVulpine: so basically, quit the game, let it update, and then it should be fixed?
#2526 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> It used to be when you made a Portal(A) in the overworld, portal(b) was made in the nether. However, if portal(B) was going to be created inside a wall, it would be automatically moved.
#2527 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> This, caused all sorts of fun stuff to happen, when you went back into portal(b), since all movement is multiplied by 8
#2528 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> going back
#2529 [12:29] <LeoKhenir> like portal (A) suddenly being somewhere else?
#2530 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't appear back at portal(A)
#2531 [12:29] <mnmlst> Argh, now i get: "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#2532 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> you'd appear in a random spot 8x the distance portal(B) was moved
#2533 [12:29] <xales> mnmlst: that is normal
#2534 [12:29] <mnmlst> ok thanks :)
#2535 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> But, like I said, this was fixed
#2536 [12:29] <Krup> Any specialists on mob trapping? my way of trapping is: waterflow down, into a spot where lava kills off the creeps and the drops SHOULD drop down into my itemspot
#2537 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Krup - Could you give us a screenshot, or a location where we could see this trap of yours?
#2538 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> Krup: why use magma that could destroy the swag? Just drown 'em.
#2539 [12:31] <xales> Krup: if the lava kills the mobs, it is probably destroying the drops too
#2540 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> It really depends on the trap
#2541 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> I've seen good lava/water traps that do a good job
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#2543 [12:36] <PandaBear> I once made one where there was a layer of stilllava (when that was implemented and I used INVedit) and then a layer of stillwater below it
#2544 [12:36] <PandaBear> :P
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#2546 [12:37] <Krup> incoming trap screenshot
#2547 [12:37] <ssen> NO
#2548 [12:37] <ssen> ITS A TRAP
#2549 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> </akbar>
#2550 [12:37] <Krup> http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5906/lavvatrap.jpg
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#2552 [12:38] <ssen> Hey there.
#2553 [12:38] <xales> it looks like the lava would be killing the items
#2554 [12:38] <ways> can anyone give me a hand setting up a server
#2555 [12:38] <ways> ive been at it 2 days and im going mad
#2556 [12:38] <xales> ways: where do you get stuck
#2557 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> What is the problem ways?
#2558 [12:38] <ways> excellent some ears
#2559 [12:38] <ways> thanks guys
#2560 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> one of these days, magma will ignite wood, and you'll be screwed (:
#2561 [12:39] <xales> it ignites wood...just not ladders
#2562 [12:39] <ways> primarily that i cant join my own server unless i use the java app
#2563 [12:39] <ways> is this a known issue?
#2564 [12:39] * DopeGhoti points out that ladders are made of wood-that-magma-does-not-ignite.
#2564 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> No...
#2565 [12:39] <xales> what do you mean you can't join it
#2566 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get ways?
#2567 [12:39] <xales> what IP do you use, what error do you get
#2568 [12:40] <ways> well if i go to another external ip ie someone elses house, i can join fine lovely no lag etc
#2569 [12:40] <ways> but when i try to join from my house
#2570 [12:40] <ways> it just crashes my browser
#2571 [12:40] <xales> try using your local IP then?
#2572 [12:40] <Krup> how do I drown mobs then?
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#2574 [12:41] <xales> Krup: just force them under the water and they will drown
#2575 [12:41] <ways> ive got 3 different servers here a windows batch file an exe and a jar file
#2576 [12:41] <ways> any suggestions which is best?
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#2578 [12:41] <xales> the batch file would just launch the jar file
#2579 [12:41] <xales> ideally, you would want to use that, or the exe
#2580 [12:42] <xales> launching the jar by itself is a bad idea
#2581 [12:42] <ways> hmmm ok
#2582 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> What are the names of these files?
#2583 [12:42] <ways> how to i change my server label using the jar file?
#2584 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> It'll be in the server.properties
#2585 [12:42] <xales> ways: are you trying to run a classic server?
#2586 [12:42] <ways> level-name?
#2587 [12:42] <Eskalior> i started a Mclawl classic server but if i want to login it always fails. But i can join my survive server.
#2588 [12:43] <xales> Eskalior: mclawl is for classic, I think
#2589 [12:43] <Eskalior> yes
#2590 [12:43] <ways> well i was playing classic but i bought it as its pretty addicitive
#2591 [12:43] <Eskalior> and i wanted to set a classic serv up
#2592 [12:43] <xales> are you trying to join using the classic client?
#2593 [12:43] <Eskalior> yes
#2594 [12:43] <ways> i prefer the mode where u make pickaxes etc is that known as survival mode?
#2595 [12:43] <xales> ways: do you want the server to be for classic or beta
#2596 [12:43] <xales> yes, that is beta or survival mode
#2597 [12:43] <Eskalior> Failed to connect to the server. It is probably down
#2598 [12:44] <xales> Eskalior: we don't support custom servers (mclawl or others) :/
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#2600 [12:44] <Krup> how do I force a mob under water?
#2601 [12:44] <xales> Krup: look at trap designs online
#2602 [12:44] <Eskalior> ah okay :D
#2603 [12:44] <ways> so the server that is running inside cmd is that classic?
#2604 [12:45] <xales> ways: not necessarily
#2605 [12:45] <xales> do you want a classic server or survival server
#2606 [12:46] <ways> if i have a survival server can my friends join without owning the game?
#2607 [12:46] <xales> no
#2608 [12:46] <ways> ok that answers a few problems
#2609 [12:46] <ways> han on ill run it again so i can reiterate what error i am getting
#2610 [12:47] <xales> it doesn't help me if you tell me what error you get, I need to know what kind of server you would like to run
#2611 [12:47] <xales> before I can help you
#2612 [12:47] <xales> there is no need for me to fix problems running a survival server if that is not what you want to run
#2613 [12:47] <ways> ok lets start with the classic type
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#2615 [12:48] <xales> is the jar file called minecraft-server.jar or minecraft_server.jar
#2616 [12:48] <PandaBear> minecraft-server
#2617 [12:48] <xales> PandaBear: was I asking you?
#2618 [12:48] <xales> :/
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#2620 [12:48] <PandaBear> Aren't I allowed to help? D:
#2621 [12:48] <xales> beta uses an _ in the jar name, classic uses the -
#2622 [12:48] <Eskalior> Hey denis :]
#2623 [12:49] <Plasin> jonas :)
#2624 [12:49] <ssen> testtest
#2625 [12:49] <ssen> testtest
#2626 [12:49] <xales> I'm asking him to determine which one he is trying to run, PandaBear
#2627 [12:49] <Eskalior> Xales Plasin is the one who cant chat on other servers and who get discos
#2628 [12:49] <xales> Eskalior: the "can't chat" is because he is disconnecting
#2629 [12:49] <Eskalior> okay :] but we need help...
#2630 [12:50] <ways> right im running a batch file and minecraft-server jar
#2631 [12:50] <Plasin> no the prob is that i can move but eskalior can't see me moving
#2632 [12:50] <xales> ways: that is classic then
#2633 [12:50] <xales> Plasin: you only see yourself moving
#2634 [12:50] <xmasta> whats they keybind for chat in mp ?
#2635 [12:50] <xales> xmasta: T
#2636 [12:50] <ways> right i see that on the list on the website
#2637 [12:50] <xmasta> kk, thnx
#2638 [12:50] <xales> Plasin: you see yourself moving, but you arent actually connected
#2639 [12:51] <xales> it takes a moment for it to realize it is not connected
#2640 [12:51] <Eskalior> xales yes and on other server its the same. noone can see him moving because he gets discos
#2641 [12:51] <Plasin> no i can see others mmoving too but they cant see me moving
#2642 [12:51] <Eskalior> but ilet you talk :]
#2643 [12:51] <ways> can i use a client to access that or does it have to be web based?
#2644 [12:51] <xales> ways: you have to use the web-based one
#2645 [12:51] <xales> Plasin: what kind of internet do you have
#2646 [12:51] <ways> ok yet again explains some of my confusion ok
#2647 [12:51] <ways> stand by...
#2648 [12:52] <Plasin> normal dsl
#2649 [12:52] <xales> Plasin: try connecting to server "smp.shadow-craft.net"
#2650 [12:52] <ssen> I have to pee.
#2651 [12:52] <ssen> I'll join your smp server.
#2652 [12:53] <xales> not my server
#2653 [12:53] <ssen> I'm joining it anyway.
#2654 [12:53] <ssen> Hopefully it has some mods.
#2655 [12:53] <ways> i try and click the waysworld link on the server link and my browser locks up, yet my server window reads me as connected
#2656 [12:54] <ways> and with my browser i can access other peoples servers
#2657 [12:54] <ways> that is the confusing bit
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#2659 [12:54] <Eskalior> xales on this server its the same. he got a disco right now
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#2661 [12:55] <Plasin> no i see that im still on the server^^
#2662 [12:55] <Plasin> ok now disco
#2663 [12:55] <Krup> do creatures despawn after they have gone away too far or something? my trap is quite long and they might despawn dueue to big distance?
#2664 [12:55] <ways> and earlier i saw that 4 people were on my server yet i cannot
#2665 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes Krup
#2666 [12:56] <xales> ways: it sounds like your computer can't handle running the client and the server at the same time
#2667 [12:57] <ways> it should be well over spec'd
#2668 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> ways: how much RAM have you?
#2669 [12:57] <ways> 2 gig
#2670 [12:57] <xales> what about CPU
#2671 [12:57] <Plasin> it worked on the classic serevr
#2672 [12:57] <ways> i have 6 machines here
#2673 [12:57] <Eskalior> xales what can he do now? he alwas gets discos on every survive server
#2674 [12:57] <xales> Plasin: it looks like a problem with your computer, possibly
#2675 [12:57] <ways> ive tried a few
#2676 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> hmm, 2GB RAM is questionable for running both the server and the client..
#2677 [12:58] <ways> 2.4 ghz
#2678 [12:58] <xales> Plasin: do you have any antivirus or firewall running?
#2679 [12:58] <ways> not enough??
#2680 [12:58] <xales> ways: single core?
#2681 [12:58] <xales> or dual core
#2682 [12:58] <xales> or quad
#2683 [12:58] <ways> dual
#2684 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> they allocate 1GB each.
#2685 [12:58] <Plasin> no
#2686 [12:58] <xales> >.>
#2687 [12:58] <ways> ahh
#2688 [12:58] <xmasta> what are you talking about DopeGhoti, my server uses like 41mb atm and you are saying 2gb is not enough?:D
#2689 [12:58] <ways> wow i didnt think it would come close to needing all those resources
#2690 [12:58] <xales> xmasta: it allocates that much, it may not use that much all the time
#2691 [12:59] <ways> ok so for sake of argument i run the server on this tower and connect from a laptop?
#2692 [12:59] <xales> Plasin: it looks like a problem with your computer, or your connection to the internet
#2693 [12:59] <xmasta> correct, that MUCH, 41mb much, it uses only 20mb of it atm
#2694 [12:59] <xales> can you try on another computer?
#2695 [12:59] <xmasta> so..
#2696 [12:59] <xales> ways: try that
#2697 [12:59] <ways> will do
#2698 [13:00] <ways> will somebody else join the server for me
#2699 [13:00] <ways> waysworld
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#2701 [13:00] <Plasin> mhh.. only at the weekend
#2702 [13:00] <Farmer> hey
#2703 [13:00] <Farmer> i need help asap
#2704 [13:00] <Farmer> something bad happened
#2705 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> What happened?
#2706 [13:00] <Farmer> I CANT PLAY MINECRAFT!!!
#2707 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Why not?
#2708 [13:01] <Farmer> after i log in i get this message
#2709 [13:01] <Farmer> done loading
#2710 [13:01] <Plasin> maybe i try to reinstall the game
#2711 [13:01] <xales> try that too Plasin
#2712 [13:01] <ways> ok so trying to connect from my macbook it doesnt crash my browser but java doesnt display correctly
#2713 [13:01] <ways> and i cant see anything
#2714 [13:01] <Farmer> i deleted minecraft and downloaded a new one still same prob...and i couldent play using the browser
#2715 [13:02] <Farmer> so im basicly effed arent i?
#2716 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> Farmer: did you delete just the .exe, or did you also delete the .minecraft directory?
#2717 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> (assuming Windows)
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#2719 [13:02] <Farmer> i deleted exe ... lmao i cant find the actual minecraft folder...and i couldent find minecraft from control panel>uninstall programs
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#2721 [13:02] <xales> its called .minecraft on everything but OSX, DopeGhoti
#2722 [13:03] <xales> Farmer: you need to follow the uninstall instructions here: http://bit.ly/mc_faq
#2723 [13:03] <xales> deleting the EXE doesn't do anything to the actual game
#2724 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes, but not ".exe" on anything but Windows :p
#2725 [13:03] <Farmer> i know .. :D
#2726 [13:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: oic
#2727 [13:04] <xales> I thought you meant .minecraft
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#2729 [13:04] <Farmer> deleteing minecraft folder now
#2730 [13:04] <xales> ways: is the computer you are running the server on running Windows?
#2731 [13:05] <ways> xp nice and simple
#2732 [13:05] <xales> what else do you have open with the server?
#2733 [13:05] <Farmer> 1 question
#2734 [13:06] <Farmer> is fly hack/noclip and such allowed ?:D
#2735 [13:06] <xales> no
#2736 [13:06] <Farmer> rly
#2737 [13:06] <xales> most servers will ban you
#2738 [13:06] <Farmer> no i sorta ment
#2739 [13:06] <xales> and discussion of it here is not allowed
#2740 [13:06] <Farmer> single player
#2741 [13:06] <Farmer> :P
#2742 [13:06] <Farmer> sry
#2743 [13:06] <xales> who cares?
#2744 [13:06] <xales> you can do whatever you want in single player
#2745 [13:06] <xales> its your game
#2746 [13:06] <Farmer> omg
#2747 [13:06] <Farmer> i just lost all my servers
#2748 [13:06] <Farmer> saves
#2749 [13:07] <xales> yes...the page does say that is what happens when you uninstall
#2750 [13:07] <xales> did you read that part?
#2751 [13:07] <Farmer> nop
#2752 [13:07] <Farmer> :p
#2753 [13:07] <Farmer> forgot about that...i spent over a month on 1 world
#2754 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget selective literacy.
#2755 [13:07] <Farmer> ouch: D
#2756 [13:07] <Farmer> I think im having a heart attack
#2757 [13:07] <Eskalior> xales is there anywhere a good minecraft classic support?
#2758 [13:07] <xmasta> undelete may say you at
#2759 [13:07] <xmasta> m
#2760 [13:07] <xales> Eskalior: minecraft classic is not supported. custom servers are not supported anywhere except with the people who make it
#2761 [13:08] <Eskalior> ah okay
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#2764 [13:10] <ways> anyone use a mac to play minecraft?
#2765 [13:10] <xales> ways: can you connect to other servers on your mac?
#2766 [13:10] <ways> just confirming that
#2767 [13:11] <ways> nien
#2768 [13:11] <ways> i need someone with mac experience it seems
#2769 [13:11] <xales> what version of OSX are you using?
#2770 [13:11] <ways> snow leopard
#2771 [13:12] <xales> what model is it?
#2772 [13:12] <ways> version 10.6.5 osx
#2773 [13:12] <ways> this years macbook
#2774 [13:12] <xales> that may not be enough, macs have shit graphics cards
#2775 [13:12] <xales> I can't run minecraft on my macbook :/
#2776 [13:13] <ways> LAMEEEEE
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#2778 [13:14] <ways> can anyone else vouch if they have had minecraft on a macbook?
#2779 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> I've helped many people on macs, as long as it isn't a PPC mac, or something from the early 2000s, it should be find.
#2780 [13:14] <Farmer> are there minecraft beta servers where its survival not building?;p
#2781 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> fine*
#2782 [13:14] <xales> Farmer: all minecraft beta servers are survival
#2783 [13:15] <xales> classic = building only, beta = building and survival
#2784 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> xales: actually, recent McGraphics Adapters are pretty decent.
#2785 [13:15] <xales> my macbook has 120mb of VRAM
#2786 [13:15] <xales> >.>
#2787 [13:15] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2787 [13:15] <xales> and its an Intel GMA too
#2788 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Ouch
#2789 [13:16] <ways> so it must be the java on my macbook right?
#2790 [13:16] <xales> ways: no, its more likely that its just not going to work with the graphics card
#2791 [13:16] <xales> you can't do anything to java on a mac, it is checksummed by the updater so it won't be a bad install
#2792 [13:16] <ways> agreed
#2793 [13:17] <ways> im clutching at straws lol
#2794 [13:17] <ways> whats the min spec for a server?
#2795 [13:17] <ways> i have an old linux server upstairs
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#2797 [13:17] <xales> depends on how many people you want it
#2798 [13:17] <Farmer> i see...
#2799 [13:17] <Plasin1> I can play in classic but not in preminum
#2800 [13:17] <xales> you need at least like 2ghz processor, and 1gb ram
#2801 [13:17] <xales> bare minimum
#2802 [13:17] <xales> Plasin1: did you buy the game?
#2803 [13:17] <ways> GAY
#2804 [13:17] <Plasin1> yes
#2805 [13:17] <ways> ok well at least i have some answers it seems
#2806 [13:17] <Farmer> is there a website where i can see the minecraft beta servers?
#2807 [13:17] <xales> what happens when you try to play premium
#2808 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Then why doesn't premium work?
#2809 [13:17] <Plasin1> but I hab the cracked before
#2810 [13:17] <xales> what error do you get
#2811 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> No Farmer
#2812 [13:18] <xales> Farmer: http://servers.minecraftforum.net lists some
#2813 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> There's no centralized beta server list
#2814 [13:18] <xales> there is no central list
#2815 [13:18] <xales> Plasin1: why can you not play premium
#2816 [13:18] <xales> what is the problem you get
#2817 [13:18] <ways> ahh
#2818 [13:19] <Plasin1> I dont know i can play singleplayer but in mp the stream ends constantly
#2819 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Brand of NIC?
#2820 [13:20] <xales> Plasin1: are you playing on a desktop computer?
#2821 [13:20] <Plasin1> yes
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#2823 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Do you know what type/brand of network card you have?
#2824 [13:21] <ways> i can get single player minecraft client working on my macbook
#2825 [13:21] <ways> different specs for online?
#2826 [13:21] <xales> there shouldn't be
#2827 [13:22] <xales> just the connection speed
#2828 [13:22] <mbentley> could just be the server you are on...
#2829 [13:22] <Plasin1> no
#2830 [13:22] <xales> Plasin1: download and run this (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php)
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#2832 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Could you look it up?
#2833 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> (is betting on atheros.)
#2834 [13:23] <xales> my mac has an atheros NIC
#2835 [13:23] <xales> :/
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#2837 [13:23] <mbentley> my laptop has an atheros wireless card but i don't see problems. of course i haven't played for extended periods of time and i am using linux
#2838 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> I've heard of atheros playing nice under *nix
#2839 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Not true elsewhere.
#2840 [13:24] <mbentley> yay linux
#2841 [13:24] <Plasin1> what is that?
#2842 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Brand of network card
#2843 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Notoriously famous in minecraft for causing recv failed/end of stream errors
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#2845 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Still there?
#2846 [13:27] <xales> GreyVulpine - Still there?
#2847 [13:27] <Plasin1> yeah
#2848 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> !slap xales
#2849 [13:27] * GreyBot slaps xales with some wire.
#2849 [13:27] <Plasin1> i cant find my network card xD
#2850 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - What OS?
#2851 [13:28] <Plasin1> could you explain me how to find it?
#2852 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running?
#2853 [13:28] <Plasin1> xp
#2854 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> start -> control panel -> system
#2855 [13:28] <Plasin1> ok
#2856 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Hardware -> device manager
#2857 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> under Network adapters or interfaces.
#2858 [13:30] <xales> Evolution: GreyBot -> GreyVulpine -> Single-Celled Organisms -> {etc etc} -> Chimpanzee -> Human
#2859 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2860 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> !slap xales
#2861 [13:31] * GreyBot slaps xales with a small asteroid rich in iron.
#2861 [13:31] <xales> (I'm making fun of your name)
#2862 [13:31] <xales> that was mean
#2863 [13:31] <xales> :(
#2864 [13:31] * GreyVulpine hrmps
#2864 [13:31] <Plasin1> sorry my english is very bad could you explain what is a network card
#2865 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> It's the card with the port that you connect your network into.
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#2867 [13:35] <cswiii> hey folks. maybe a dumb question here, but anyway. Using Fedora14/Sun JVM. Wireless keyboard. Keyboard controls don't work. I can type in my login info, but after that, i get nowhere. I can use the mouse to pan around but none of the key controls work. Ideas?
#2868 [13:36] <xales> cswiii: I have no idea. Try asking on a Fedora forum, they may be able to help you
#2869 [13:37] <xales> it is probably an issue with the OpenGL native library and your wireless keyboard driver not liking each other
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#2871 [13:37] <Plasin1> NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller?
#2872 [13:39] <Plasin1> is this a network card?
#2873 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, yeah. Is that the only listing for network adapters?
#2874 [13:40] <cswiii> xales: interesting. haven't seen issues before but it's possible. thanks
#2875 [13:40] <Plasin1> yes
#2876 [13:41] <Plasin1> nno wait NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator this?
#2877 [13:42] <mbentley> the first one was right
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#2879 [13:42] <mbentley> the network cards will all be grouped together
#2880 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Well, there goes that idea.
#2881 [13:44] <Plasin1> there is only one
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#2883 [13:45] <frogaincia> ive got a issue...so i just downloaded the program u need for ur own server..and i ran it
#2884 [13:46] <frogaincia> where can i like access this server lol
#2885 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Which server
#2886 [13:46] <frogaincia> shouldent it like say "ur servers ip is ..."
#2887 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> classic or beta?
#2888 [13:46] <fogwraith> connect to localhost
#2889 [13:46] <frogaincia> beta
#2890 [13:46] <fogwraith> Win
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#2892 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, use "localhost"
#2893 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> or 127.0.0.1
#2894 [13:47] <frogaincia> when my minecraft is open?
#2895 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes, in your client
#2896 [13:47] <frogaincia> awesome
#2897 [13:47] <frogaincia> thanks
#2898 [13:48] <Plasin1> so what could I do now?
#2899 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Could you look at properties for your "NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller"?
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#2901 [13:49] <frogaincia> does anyone know how to use omen?
#2902 [13:49] <fogwraith> Omen for WoW? :P
#2903 [13:49] <frogaincia> no , omen for minecraft:p
#2904 [13:49] <fogwraith> ;)
#2905 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> map editor omen?
#2906 [13:49] <frogaincia> yup
#2907 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> gah, haven't touched that since I came here.
#2908 [13:50] <frogaincia> is it even legal?
#2909 [13:50] <frogaincia> lmao
#2910 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> That's for classic, isn't it?
#2911 [13:50] <frogaincia> beats me
#2912 [13:51] <frogaincia> :D
#2913 [13:51] <genshou> murnings :]
#2914 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. it is.
#2915 [13:51] <frogaincia> snap
#2916 [13:52] <frogaincia> all i wana do is set up my own server and clear the map from shit so i can build cool things...but im too dumb to do that lmao
#2917 [13:52] <genshou> Grab a pickaxe and start digging ;D
#2918 [13:52] <genshou> (but seriously, there are map editors for Beta out there)
#2919 [13:53] <Plasin1> ok im on properties
#2920 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Well, uh, survival maps automatically generate random terrain, so your nicely edited flat map, won't stay flat along newly generated terrain
#2921 [13:53] <frogaincia> to build stuff i should use classic right
#2922 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Under "Advanced", what properties are listed there?
#2923 [13:54] <mbentley> frogaincia: you can build in beta
#2924 [13:55] <frogaincia> i need some kind of map editor to flatten it out and then some program that i can use to fly >.<
#2925 [13:55] <genshou> pffft, real men use scaffolding
#2926 [13:56] * GreyVulpine recommends MCedit for map editing
#2926 [13:56] <frogaincia> idk what that is :p
#2927 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> as for mods that let you fly.. that requires modding the server.
#2928 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> And we don't officially provide support for mods here
#2929 [13:57] <frogaincia> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Downloads has a map editor and a program u can use to fl
#2930 [13:57] <frogaincia> fly
#2931 [13:57] <frogaincia> but that requires me to make a classic server and i dunno how to do that
#2932 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> That's also a third party client, not in any way associated with notch
#2933 [13:58] <frogaincia> how do i make a classic server?
#2934 [13:59] <genshou> Ahaha, I just discovered there is indeed a mod that turns the biome generator into a screw-you-over cave-maker
#2935 [13:59] * genshou plans on tweaking it a bit for an interesting smp server similar to the Exile RPG series :]
#2935 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - The classic server file is here: http://minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#2936 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Top link
#2937 [14:01] <Plasin1> Checksum Offload /// Flow Control /// IEE802.1P Support /// Jumbo Frame Payload Size /// Low Power State Link Speed /// Network Adress /// Optimize For /// Segmentation Offload /// Speed/duplex settings /// VLAN Id /// VLAN Support /// WakeOnLAN From PowerOff///
#2938 [14:02] <frogaincia> ok so mcedit is for beta right
#2939 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2940 [14:02] <Plasin1> what now?
#2941 [14:02] <genshou> waterLevel=64
#2942 [14:02] <genshou> This is the first level that will be clear of oceanic water and ice. 74 makes a pretty watery world, 100 makes Wind Waker style worlds. <--- yesssssss, archipelago time :]
#2943 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Is Checksum offload enabled?
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#2945 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, you found that biome mod thing, didn't you
#2946 [14:04] <Plasin1> yes
#2947 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Plasin1 - Disable it and try connecting again
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#2950 [14:06] <frogaincia> wow mcedit sucks
#2951 [14:08] <genshou> GreyVulpine, TerrainTweaker yup
#2952 [14:08] <Plasin> what server?
#2953 [14:09] <Solvius> Those RPG mods, are they feee to use ?
#2954 [14:09] <Solvius> *r
#2955 [14:09] <Solvius> naah let it go, stupid question :)
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#2957 [14:14] <Plasin> thank you it works but now my pc laggs^^
#2958 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down the render distance with the "F" key?
#2959 [14:17] <Plasin> no my pc laggs a bit or do I imagine that? XD
#2960 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.
#2961 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> Plasin: Just so you know, 'lag' only has one 'g'.
#2962 [14:19] <Plasin> I'm german and my english isn't that good
#2963 [14:19] <Plasin> what has that for cons that I disabled this?
#2964 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Turning off checksum offload? Negligible impact on your CPU
#2965 [14:22] <Plasin> oh ... thank you GreyVulpine
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#2970 [14:37] <i81u812> wtf now you have to hit the register button to use mirc for free
#2971 [14:37] <i81u812> how rare is moss stone?
#2972 [14:37] <aetherian> rare
#2973 [14:38] <aetherian> only found min dungeons
#2974 [14:38] <aetherian> or rather
#2975 [14:38] <i81u812> does anyone have any information on file save changes yet?
#2976 [14:38] <aetherian> around dungeons
#2977 [14:38] <i81u812> I should say inside information
#2978 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Nothing more than what Notch's blog says
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#2984 [14:51] <SwimChao> Anyone alive that could possibly help me with a problem?
#2985 [14:52] <Io> Pardon me, uhh, but although i have my World 1 data still on my computer, i suddenly can't access it on minecraft. What do I do?
#2986 [14:53] <SwimChao> Im getting this error message everytime I try to run minecraft http://pastebin.com/uSiVnF9j
#2987 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> SwimChao - Uninstall and reinstall java
#2988 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Io - What happened to your world? Did your computer shut off suddenly?
#2989 [14:54] <SwimChao> I have done that and unfortunately it's still giving me that error.
#2990 [14:54] <SwimChao> :-(
#2991 [14:55] <SwimChao> I've made sure to remove java and then reinstalled it.
#2992 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> That error is still pointing to java.
#2993 [14:55] <SwimChao> Hm.
#2994 [14:55] <xales> actually Grey
#2995 [14:55] <xales> that looks like an antivirus possibly
#2996 [14:55] <xales> being a piece of shit and blocking it from making API calls
#2997 [14:56] <SwimChao> I don't run any antivirus regularly though
#2998 [14:56] <Io> Yes, it did. Yesterday i was playing and my dog unplugged my laptop and i didn't notice, and it shut down. But when i turned it back on, minecraft was running fine. I turned off sleep mode this morning to log back on and that's when my world was unnavailable.
#2999 [14:56] <Io> I still have the World 1 save in my saves folder, though
#3000 [14:56] <xales> Io: it sounds like your world got corrupted then
#3001 [14:56] <Io> ohhhh noooooo
#3002 [14:56] <xales> unless you have a backup, the world is lost to you
#3003 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Io - Couple of suggestions, either look in the world folder, rename the level_old to level
#3004 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Or try and open it up in a map editor and resave it
#3005 [14:57] <xales> SwimChao: it may also help if you were running the latest version of windows
#3006 [14:57] <xales> your Windows XP is very, very out of date
#3007 [14:57] <xales> Service Pack 1
#3008 [14:57] <xales> :(
#3009 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow.
#3010 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> I didn't see the SP version
#3011 [14:57] <SwimChao> :S
#3012 [14:58] <Io> there is already a level.dat file and a level.dat_old file. What do i do with them?
#3013 [14:58] <xales> it also looks like you don't have enough ram to run minecraft...but I'm not sure if that is accurate
#3014 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> rename the level.dat to level.bak to back it up
#3015 [14:58] <xales> what is in the error report
#3016 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> then level.dat_old to level.dat
#3017 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> And try again
#3018 [14:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: Look at EAX on that error report
#3019 [14:59] <Io> nope :(
#3020 [14:59] <xales> it looks like its dying on an API call
#3021 [14:59] <Io> it didn't work...
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#3024 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Io - Then, try using a map editor to open up that world.
#3025 [15:00] <SwimChao1> Sorry looks like my browser crashed after trying to run minecraft through it lol
#3026 [15:00] <Io> how do i use a map editor?
#3027 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend MCedit
#3028 [15:00] <xales> SwimChao: I'd suggest updating windows before you try anything else
#3029 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#3030 [15:00] <SwimChao1> I typically avoid using windows. Is there much testing for Minecraft on Ubuntu?
#3031 [15:01] <Solvius> does the portal to hell, works in the MP beta ?
#3032 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes SwimChao.
#3033 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> No Solvius
#3034 [15:01] <xales> SwimChao: it works on ubuntu
#3035 [15:01] <Solvius> ok thnx
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#3037 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Io, all you have to do is open the world up in mcedit, press ctrl-s to resave it, and try opening it back in minecraft again
#3038 [15:01] <SwimChao1> Perhaps I'll go try and get it working there.
#3039 [15:02] <SwimChao1> Thanks for the help.
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#3041 [15:03] <fogwraith> Har har har, I'd like to see you get past my moat, shitty little creepers!
#3042 [15:03] <Io> okay, let me get mcedit open
#3043 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, moat
#3044 [15:03] <xales> I sure hope its a lava moat
#3045 [15:03] <fogwraith> It is, xales
#3046 [15:04] <Io> i just don't want to lose the castle i've been building!
#3047 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Real men use alternating cactus/burning blocks of netherrack
#3048 [15:04] * fogwraith feeds GreyVulpine to the moat
#3048 [15:04] * GreyVulpine bathes in it
#3048 [15:04] <fogwraith> Meh ;P
#3049 [15:05] <xales> Io: I suggest looking on the wiki about how to do periodic backups of your world(s)
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#3051 [15:05] <Io> if you'd like, i can show you the screenshots of my castle :P
#3052 [15:05] <xales> GreyVulpine: do you think rsync would commit suicide on a minecraft world?
#3053 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez...
#3054 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#3055 [15:07] <xales> I kinda want to test it, but I also don't want to blow stuff up
#3056 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully notch's plan for a revamped save format will help in the future.
#3057 [15:07] <xales> I hope so
#3058 [15:07] <fogwraith> "MYSQL LOL!"
#3059 [15:07] * GreyVulpine shoots self.
#3059 [15:08] <xales> If it is MySQL...people will die
#3060 [15:08] <fogwraith> That'll be the day this channel ends support for servers? ;)
#3061 [15:08] <xales> yes
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#3063 [15:08] <Io> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15606519/Craftmining/ambition.png I found this while exploring and thought it'd be a great place for a spooky castle
#3064 [15:09] <mbentley> rsync should handle a mc world just fine
#3065 [15:09] <Io> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15606519/Craftmining/Castle%201.png and i've been building it up ever since!
#3066 [15:09] <mbentley> as long as you have done a save-off
#3067 [15:09] <xales> within a reasonable timeframe, mbentley?
#3068 [15:09] <xales> it takes almost 5 minutes to copy a minecraft world in windows
#3069 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> CNN headline: "P. Diddy sails on $850,000-a-week superyacht controlled by iPad"
#3070 [15:10] <xales> because microsoft is good at file buffers, oh yes
#3071 [15:10] <mbentley> depends on the size of the world and the destination..
#3072 [15:10] <sergio91pt> xales: I've been using git, no problems and its very fast
#3073 [15:11] <Io> also, by the way, my world is working again!
#3074 [15:11] <Io> Thanks a bunch!
#3075 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Whee
#3076 [15:11] <Io> i used the editor to take the chance to also change my spawn point. Much more convenient now
#3077 [15:11] <xales> sergio91pt: how do you manage that? tagging each time you commit? :/
#3078 [15:11] <xales> otherwise youll have mismatching chunks I would imagine
#3079 [15:13] <sergio91pt> i just do file add . and commit -m "some message so I know what I've been doing"
#3080 [15:19] <xales> Kealpy
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#3082 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> git is pretty nice.
#3083 [15:20] <Io> Hmmm, is there are a reason all the grass and leaves looks brownish and dying?
#3084 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Io: biome.
#3085 [15:21] <Kealper> seeing that name makes me want to play POD again
#3086 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> and clearly, the new save format should not be MySQL. "It should be PostgreSQL"
#3087 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> ("or SQLite")
#3088 [15:22] <xales> no, no
#3089 [15:22] <xales> it should be a flat file
#3090 [15:22] <Io> but this was an area where the grass and leaves were greener before my save messed up
#3091 [15:22] <xales> with \n acting as a delimiter between each byte
#3092 [15:22] <xales> and \r delimiting your \ns
#3093 [15:22] <xales> and \0 deliming your \rs
#3094 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> xales: \n? Why so complex?! Use \000.
#3095 [15:22] <xales> therefor, a very complicated format
#3096 [15:22] <Kealper> that'd be one heck of a file to open up in np++ lol
#3097 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> ah, you were getting there.
#3098 [15:22] <xales> that is way too large
#3099 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> don't forget \t and \a :)
#3100 [15:23] <xales> nobody likes \t
#3101 [15:23] <xales> we need \b
#3102 [15:23] <xales> and the \b must be parsed on file load
#3103 [15:23] <xales> and each byte must be prefixed and postfixed with 4 \bs as padding
#3104 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> refresh my memory as to what \b parses as?
#3105 [15:24] <xales> hehe
#3106 [15:24] <xales> \b = bell/beep
#3107 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> I thoguht that was \a
#3108 [15:24] <Kealper> oh god
#3109 [15:24] <xales> nope, \b
#3110 [15:24] <Kealper> that'd be the best troll job ever done to anyone who has a pc speaker hooked up lol
#3111 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> depends on which type of \, I suppose; the mnemonic I'm remembering is \alert
#3112 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> not \bell
#3113 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> echo -e "\a" seems to back me up.
#3114 [15:31] <Io> all the leaves and grass in this area used to be fresh and green. I wonder why they changed?
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#3117 [15:41] <Kealper> ello
#3118 [15:46] <clone1018> ohai
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#3123 [15:56] <JALLE> just posted a soundtrack of minecraft, check it out guys hah :D
#3124 [15:56] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3125 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3126 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3127 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3128 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3129 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3130 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3131 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3132 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3133 [15:57] <JALLE> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0biyeBhYKE
#3134 [15:57] * Kealper kicked JALLE from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: JALLE)
#3135 [16:00] <lemon-rev> morning help
#3136 [16:00] <lemon-rev> :P
#3137 [16:00] <Kealper> lol
#3138 [16:00] <lemon-rev> its almost like saying hello everyone isnt it ?
#3139 [16:00] <lemon-rev> lol
#3140 [16:01] <Kealper> that was quite some random spam....
#3141 [16:01] <lemon-rev> yea i saw that from jalle
#3142 [16:01] <lemon-rev> gay
#3143 [16:01] <Kealper> and i found out that i can't use /ko nickname
#3144 [16:02] <lemon-rev> hm
#3145 [16:02] <lemon-rev> you cant like say /kick
#3146 [16:03] <Kealper> ko is supposed to be short for knockout, which kickbans them and clears the ban automatically after like 5 min
#3147 [16:03] <Kealper> but it totally failed lol
#3148 [16:03] <lemon-rev> lol
#3149 [16:03] <lemon-rev> well it kicked and baned him but it didnt unban
#3150 [16:03] <lemon-rev> which i suppose is the only downside lol
#3151 [16:03] <Kealper> i did that after failing with the knockout
#3152 [16:03] <lemon-rev> oh
#3153 [16:03] <lemon-rev> ok
#3154 [16:03] <Diablothein> Sup Kealper, Reverend Lemon, others.
#3155 [16:03] <lemon-rev> yup,
#3156 [16:04] <Kealper> reverend lol...
#3157 [16:04] <lemon-rev> we should all be here,
#3158 [16:04] <lemon-rev> well thats what diablo calls me
#3159 [16:04] <Kealper> and ello
#3160 [16:04] <lemon-rev> so im like blessing yous with my lemon's lol
#3161 [16:04] <Kealper> atleast it's better than Kealpy....sounds like a friggin baby -.-
#3162 [16:04] <Kealper> oh god...rephrase of that might need to be done lol
#3163 [16:04] <Diablothein> Kealpybby! :3
#3164 [16:05] <lemon-rev> lol
#3165 [16:05] <lemon-rev> yup
#3166 [16:05] <lemon-rev> now you done it
#3167 [16:05] * Kealper eats summer sausage and cheese
#3167 [16:05] <lemon-rev> sounds nice
#3168 [16:06] <Kealper> it's not bad, my brother was nice for christmas...he paid the money to renew kealper.com this year and got me some summer sausage lol
#3169 [16:06] * Diablothein is eating a sausage, pepperoni, cheese, cucumber, cheese, tomato, cheese sandwich and drinking homemade mead
#3169 [16:06] <Kealper> o.o
#3170 [16:07] <Diablothein> Yep, mead, an alcoholic beverage, right before work.
#3171 [16:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#3172 [16:07] <fogwraith> So he gave you ~10 usd and a sausage? :P
#3173 [16:07] <lemon-rev> sounds like the way to start the morning
#3174 [16:07] <fogwraith> Kealper ftw :P
#3175 [16:07] <Kealper> exactly lol
#3176 [16:07] <Diablothein> I less than three my job.
#3177 [16:09] <Kealper> i can't less than three my job, i'd be dividing by zero
#3178 [16:10] <Diablothein> Lol, wanna work for us?
#3179 [16:11] <Kealper> depends, what would working entail? lol
#3180 [16:11] <Diablothein> Power management.
#3181 [16:11] <Diablothein> But hey, pay is good
#3182 [16:11] <Kealper> managing power or managing like a boss? lol
#3183 [16:11] <Diablothein> power
#3184 [16:12] <Diablothein> Dude, don't you know where I work?
#3185 [16:12] <Kealper> i don't lol
#3186 [16:12] <Diablothein> o.o
#3187 [16:12] <Diablothein> I work for Greyskull Power Company
#3188 [16:12] <Kealper> lol
#3189 [16:13] <Diablothein> Admit, you wanna work with us.
#3190 [16:14] <Kealper> yeah, i won't lie, it'd be awesome to even have a job, but...the place is probably thousands of miles away, that'd be one hell of a morning commute lol
#3191 [16:14] <Diablothein> Where you at?
#3192 [16:15] <Kealper> ok back, southeast michigan lol
#3193 [16:16] <Diablothein> Yeah...
#3194 [16:16] <Diablothein> 'tis a few hundred million light years away...
#3195 [16:16] <Diablothein> so...
#3196 [16:16] <Kealper> xD
#3197 [16:16] <Diablothein> Well...
#3198 [16:16] <Diablothein> :D
#3199 [16:19] <Diablothein> You might want to get a faster car...
#3200 [16:21] * aetherian is away: technically I was before, but now I am. you know. just go. with the flow. don't be towed. it'll hurt your toe. so. ima go.
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#3201 [16:22] <Kealper> that was a fast download
#3202 [16:22] <Kealper> 28mb file....average download speed was 1.3mb/s lol
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#3206 [16:28] <HMM> hey
#3207 [16:28] <HMM> can some body help me ?
#3208 [16:28] <lemon-rev> whats up
#3209 [16:28] <HMM> do any know how iConomy work ? if yes how do i get money with out gift command ? lol im a noob ^^
#3210 [16:29] <lemon-rev> you asking how to buy a game ?
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#3212 [16:29] <fogwraith> Ask in #Hey0
#3213 [16:30] <Diablothein> Reverend, you have any clue what he's talking about? o.o
#3214 [16:30] <fogwraith> The developers for that is in there
#3215 [16:30] <HMM> if i just install it and all player have 0 money how do we get money ^^
#3216 [16:30] <fogwraith> HMM: read what I just typed
#3217 [16:30] <lemon-rev> diablo no , no i dear at all
#3218 [16:30] <lemon-rev> no idea *
#3219 [16:31] <HMM> engeneeringfogwraith i'll try
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#3221 [16:34] <Kealper> when i uncap my upload on torrents to shoots to like 600kb/s for a sec....i wish it could stay that fast....my ratio is starting to suck :/
#3222 [16:36] <fogwraith> ;/
#3223 [16:36] <fogwraith> Whatcha getting?
#3224 [16:37] <Kealper> just trying to fix my ratio on Demonoid..i've been leeching a lot from there lately..lol
#3225 [16:38] <fogwraith> Oh :P
#3226 [16:38] <fogwraith> I wonder if my account is still active there
#3227 [16:38] <Kealper> lol
#3228 [16:39] <fogwraith> It is :P
#3229 [16:39] <fogwraith> Uploaded: 1.18 TB / Downloaded: 1.06 TB... pfft
#3230 [16:39] <Kealper> lol
#3231 [16:40] <Kealper> mine is 360gb uploaded and 162gb downloaded
#3232 [16:40] <fogwraith> I switched to another tracker though
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#3234 [16:40] <fogwraith> Uploaded: 10.06 TB Downloaded: 3.49 TB... nuhrr
#3235 [16:41] <Kealper> i've found demonoid to suit my needs, and since it's a private tracker, it's not loaded with fake virus torrents
#3236 [16:41] <Kealper> and wow lol
#3237 [16:41] <Diablothein> "Gooo download this soooonnnggg, the pirate bay is where you belooooong"
#3238 [16:41] <fogwraith> There are the occational trojaned torrents though ;P
#3239 [16:41] <fogwraith> Always fun
#3240 [16:41] <Kealper> TPB kinda sucks....half their torrents are viruses/fake
#3241 [16:41] <Kealper> fakes*
#3242 [16:42] <lemon-rev> kealper
#3243 [16:42] <Kealper> lemon-rev
#3244 [16:42] <lemon-rev> why, do you use torrents when theres links that you can use instead of torrents
#3245 [16:42] <Diablothein> kealpybby :3
#3246 [16:42] <lemon-rev> but it just requires you to pay the guys serving it like megaupload and stuff
#3247 [16:43] <Kealper> because i'd rather risk it than go through some shitty download site like rapidshare or megaupload
#3248 [16:43] <Diablothein> Reverend: Torrents are more reliable.
#3249 [16:43] <aetherian> mmyes, mmyes, it will be quite good to have a better world save data style.
#3250 [16:43] <Kealper> and torrents are decentralized
#3251 [16:43] <Diablothein> Less chance of viruses via torrents, amazing eh?
#3252 [16:43] <lemon-rev> well trouble is torrents are getting worse with like bugs and you try downloading something and its passworeded and crap
#3253 [16:44] <Kealper> lemon-rev: that's exactly why i hate public torrent trackers like TPB
#3254 [16:44] <Kealper> places like Demonoid don't do that
#3255 [16:44] <lemon-rev> so you on private ones are you ?
#3256 [16:44] <Kealper> indeed
#3257 [16:44] <lemon-rev> oh
#3258 [16:44] <lemon-rev> i see
#3259 [16:44] <lemon-rev> well thats a little better than the mainsteam
#3260 [16:45] * DopeGhoti looks up to make sure he didn't end up in #arrrrrrmatey
#3260 [16:45] <Kealper> lol
#3261 [16:45] <Kealper> is that actually a channel? xD
#3262 [16:45] <lemon-rev> he could make it one
#3263 [16:45] <lemon-rev> lol
#3264 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> as could anyone
#3265 [16:45] <lemon-rev> bbib testing nfs-hp
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#3269 [17:08] <mitchellplat> hello?
#3270 [17:08] <Kealper> hi
#3271 [17:09] <mitchellplat> i need help with purchising the game.
#3272 [17:09] <Kealper> ok, what problems did you run in to?
#3273 [17:09] <mitchellplat> i keep getting errors whenever i use a credit card. it says transaction error.
#3274 [17:10] <Kealper> are you using a prepaid credit card?
#3275 [17:10] <mitchellplat> yes.
#3276 [17:10] <Kealper> almost all prepaid cards do not allow international purchases, you'll have to use a different card :/
#3277 [17:11] <mitchellplat> what kind of credit cards could i use?
#3278 [17:12] <Kealper> standard credit cards only, i believe are all that work
#3279 [17:12] <mitchellplat> thank you i might try that.
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#3281 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: FWIW, so do debit cards.
#3282 [17:17] <Kealper> fwiw?
#3283 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> (for what it's worth) Any 14-year-old can take a fistful of their allowance money down to the bank, and open an account wiht a (usually) Visa debit card attached to it.
#3284 [17:18] <Kealper> OH...duh
#3285 [17:18] <Kealper> yea i probably should have mentioned debit cards
#3286 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> or even just open up a savings account, link it to PayPal, and problem solved.
#3287 [17:19] <Kealper> meh, not too hard to find someone with a credit card though...i'm sure he'll do fine :P
#3288 [17:20] <Kealper> one of the hdds in my server is being quite loud, making repetitive sounds like it's head is scratching on something while reading.....
#3289 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> yeah, but then you have to buy the game before it's reported stolen
#3290 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> um, time to back the server's data up while you can
#3291 [17:20] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: good lord i didn't mean CCF lol
#3292 [17:20] * DopeGhoti just had a hard drive crash
#3292 [17:21] <Kealper> yeah, this sounds like it's on it's last limb right now....
#3293 [17:21] <Kealper> it just has to hang on for another week or so though, then i can start migrating everything to my new server
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#3295 [17:23] <Nick> Hello.
#3296 [17:23] <Kealper> ello
#3297 [17:23] <Nick> I suppose you can help :D?
#3298 [17:23] * DopeGhoti , sadly, has a drive that has some of his original music on it. Or had, rather. It's so crashed you can hear the heads scraping if you pick up the drive and rotate it coaxial with the platters.
#3298 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> Nick: we can _try_ :)
#3299 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> Much better name. Good choice.
#3300 [17:23] <Kealper> lol
#3301 [17:23] <Diablothein> I'm gonna go take a nap...
#3302 [17:24] <Guest756650221> Fabulous :D. I was hoping for some assistance with hosting a server. Haha I like the name myself :D
#3303 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> What sort of assistance do you seek?
#3304 [17:24] <Guest756650221> I can connect locally find using the port and my own IP etc but I can't get other users to. I'm not sure if I can't find the correct IP or I'm just flatout wrong in what I've done
#3305 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> Guest756650221: Look at your server.properties file. If you have anything after the '=' on the server-ip line, remove it.
#3306 [17:26] <Guest756650221> There is nothing
#3307 [17:26] <Kealper> Guest756650221: you have the port forwarded?
#3308 [17:27] <Kealper> and you are giving them your external ip, not your internal ip?
#3309 [17:27] <Guest756650221> As far as I know, yes. I have a linksys router which seems different than most from my experience, and that may be the issue because I don't know what's my internal/external
#3310 [17:27] <Kealper> Guest756650221: http://whatismyip.com
#3311 [17:28] * DopeGhoti still prefers ipchicken.com
#3311 [17:28] <Kealper> lol
#3312 [17:28] <Guest756650221> I used ipchicken :D And I've tried connecting through that myself with no luck. I wanted to connect through that to see if I could and it wouldn't let me, is it just a matter of, me being local, I can only use my local IP or the port number?
#3313 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> no, you can test your external IP
#3314 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> sounds like it's not being forwarded properly
#3315 [17:29] <Guest756650221> In that case, my external was not successful
#3316 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> check out portforward.com
#3317 [17:29] <Guest756650221> Want a screenshot of my forwarding?
#3318 [17:29] <Kealper> i guess
#3319 [17:29] <Guest756650221> Meh I can't really do that easily so nvm
#3320 [17:30] <Guest756650221> Is this portforward.com a program or what?
#3321 [17:30] <Kealper> website that has a database on forwarding ports for all different router models
#3322 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> it's a site with guides for setting up forwarding on moust common routers
#3323 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: s/all/most/
#3324 [17:31] <Kealper> bah
#3325 [17:31] <Guest756650221> So I suppose I'll follow these directions and see where it takes me?
#3326 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> Guest756650221: those directions should take you to an operable server :)
#3327 [17:32] <Kealper> just remember this: you will see an advertisement for a program that they make...ignore it, the skip link is in the top right of the page
#3328 [17:33] <Guest756650221> Hahaha thank you :D ALSO, what's a static IP? Is that what I found on IP chicken?
#3329 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> a static IP is one that never changes, and is not set automatically via DHCP
#3330 [17:34] <Kealper> no, a static ip just means an unchanging ip
#3331 [17:34] <Kealper> they are nice to have when hosting, but not needed
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#3335 [17:50] <tiba666> omg what is hey0 server
#3336 [17:50] <Kealper> a modded server?
#3337 [17:50] <tiba666> to the hey0 plugin :S
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#3339 [17:52] <Guest756650221> HAY
#3340 [17:53] <Kealper> o.o
#3341 [17:53] <Guest756650221> So I messed up my DNS first :P but then fixed it :D
#3342 [17:53] <Kealper> O.o
#3343 [17:53] <Guest756650221> At first I was like :D but then I serious'd
#3344 [17:53] <Kealper> well, it's good that you fixed it lol
#3345 [17:53] <Guest756650221> This is true. Anyone wanna see if they can join for meh :D?
#3346 [17:53] <Kealper> AuBot in here would like to
#3347 [17:54] <Kealper> !check c-68-82-190-79.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
#3348 [17:54] <Guest756650221> Who's that haha?
#3349 [17:54] <Kealper> works
#3350 [17:54] <Guest756650221> WHAT
#3351 [17:54] <Guest756650221> That was AWESOME
#3352 [17:54] <Kealper> lol
#3353 [17:54] <Guest756650221> Oh my lord you guys are AWESOMEEE
#3354 [17:55] <tiba666> can any help me
#3355 [17:55] <Guest756650221> Ya derpa derp?!
#3356 [17:55] <Kealper> tiba666: what exactly was your question? lol
#3357 [17:55] <tiba666> i was in hey0 mibbit but now can i find it lol
#3358 [17:55] <tiba666> can you plz help me
#3359 [17:56] <Kealper> the channel is #hey0 for that
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#3361 [17:56] <Guest756650221> I'm back :'(
#3362 [17:56] <Kealper> O.o
#3363 [17:57] <Guest756650221> I tried to use that IP and it keeps disconnecting me saying took to long to login
#3364 [17:57] <Kealper> you have the wrong server software then :/
#3365 [17:57] <Kealper> !server
#3366 [17:57] <Kealper> delete your server's files and download/run that one
#3367 [17:57] <Guest756650221> Tis what I have!!
#3368 [17:58] <Kealper> is there an externalurl.txt in your server's folder?
#3369 [17:58] <Guest756650221> My server didn't have a fold :D
#3370 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> Guest756650221: it can't hurt to try connecting with your internal IP.
#3371 [17:58] <Guest756650221> BUT
#3372 [17:58] <Guest756650221> I know where I can find it so hold on
#3373 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> some routers don't handle out-and-back-in connections quite so well
#3374 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Why Cisco insists on associating their name so closely with Linksys, I will never fathom.
#3375 [17:59] <Guest756650221> There is not one of them thingies
#3376 [17:59] <Kealper> linksys was good before cisco bought them :/
#3377 [17:59] <Kealper> Guest756650221: O.o hmm..1 sec
#3378 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> ha..HAHAhaha! hohooohhahaha! whee.. you're funny, Kealper.
#3379 [18:00] <Kealper> did i fail hardcore or was that just utter disagreement with that statement?
#3380 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> next you'll be saying that Verizon has good customer service
#3381 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> "Linksys was good".. *snrk*
#3382 [18:00] <Kealper> AT&T HAS THE BEST SERVICE EVER!
#3383 [18:00] <Guest756650221> Customer server silly
#3384 [18:00] <Guest756650221> service*
#3385 [18:01] <Kealper> hey, my wrt54g is one heck of a workhorse (after getting that cancer of a default firmware off)
#3386 [18:01] * DopeGhoti rests his case.
#3386 [18:01] <Guest756650221> Any help for meee?!
#3387 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Guest756650221: did you try connecting with your internal IP?
#3388 [18:02] * DopeGhoti points up.
#3388 [18:04] <Guest756650221> failed to connect
#3389 [18:04] <Guest756650221> Right away.
#3390 [18:04] <Kealper> because you closed the server
#3391 [18:04] <Guest756650221> It's up nao
#3392 [18:04] <Kealper> works for me
#3393 [18:05] <Guest756650221> You're in it?!
#3394 [18:05] <Kealper> check the console window
#3395 [18:06] <Guest756650221> So. What the BALLS have I done wrong?
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#3397 [18:11] <lemon-rev> guest whats the ip your useing to connect
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#3402 [18:37] <Techy> Hello
#3403 [18:37] <Techy> I'm looking at running a server, and was wondering if there were any level generators working with the latest version?
#3404 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Techy: there are (check the forums for examples)
#3405 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> but this channel doesn't directly support mods I'm afraid.
#3406 [18:38] <Techy> Thats fine, was just wondering if any actually worked at the moment, I didnt see any on the wiki
#3407 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> I was looking at one post this morning about 'planetoids' which looked neat, as well as one that seemed con consist entirely of subterranean tunnels
#3408 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> both of which were rather snazzy looking
#3409 [18:39] <Techy> Nice
#3410 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> they're in the Fora under 'Mapping & MOdding' IIRC
#3411 [18:40] <Techy> Thanks!
#3412 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#3421 [19:34] <aetherian> thank god
#3422 [19:34] <aetherian> that thing took forever to scan my computer, especially with deleting empty space.
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#3431 [20:01] <Amoled> can anyone point me to a walk thru to help me connect to servers using Stargate plugin ?
#3432 [20:02] <xales> try google
#3433 [20:02] <xales> we don't support anything but the 3rd party game here, sorry
#3434 [20:02] <xales> durr
#3435 [20:02] <xales> we don't support 3rd party additions, only the core game
#3436 [20:02] <aetherian> hmm
#3437 [20:02] <aetherian> the third party game
#3438 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (not everyone receives CTCP NOTICEs in their active windows, so AuBot's declaration may be missing its targets)
#3439 [20:04] <Amoled> I have 2 servers one with Minecraft normal on it and one with Mincraft Nether and want to beable to move between the two
#3440 [20:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: it doesn't miss Mibbit people, who ask most of the questions
#3441 [20:05] <xales> which is half of the point of it
#3442 [20:05] <xales> Amoled: I don't think there is a way without heavy duty modding, and as I said, we cannot help you with that here
#3443 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Amoled: Notch has mentioned implementing such a feature in the future though.
#3444 [20:06] <Amoled> oh really
#3445 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> and if he doesn't, the forthcoming API might allow others to do so.
#3446 [20:07] <Amoled> I guess I will just haft to wait and see : )
#3447 [20:07] <Amoled> I think it's an awesome idea
#3448 [20:08] <Amoled> bring this community closer together
#3449 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> I think I'd only want to be able to connect my server to a known other server, though
#3450 [20:08] <Amoled> I agree
#3451 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Or make the interserver portal the spawn location for people connecting by any means that aren't already retaining a saved location elsewhere
#3452 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> I suppose the real question is, would the gates be one-to-one relations, or one-to-many?
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#3454 [20:09] <Amoled> and maybe if you are not on the whitelist of the server you are trying to goto from the interserver it wont let you port
#3455 [20:09] <xales> one-to-sqrt(-1), DopeGhoti
#3456 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> xales: aren't the worlds of _all_ servers imaginary?
#3457 [20:10] <xales> you got the joke :O
#3458 [20:12] * DopeGhoti has math-fu
#3458 [20:12] <Diablothein> xales has diabeetus
#3459 [20:12] <xales> :O
#3460 [20:12] <xales> how did you know
#3461 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> ..he had a roughly 20% chance of being right.
#3462 [20:13] * xales was kidding
#3462 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> and thus an 80% chance of being wrong.
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#3464 [20:14] <Diablothein> Not really
#3465 [20:14] <Diablothein> I had a 50%
#3466 [20:14] <Diablothein> It's like being a mind reader, pick a number from 1 to 100, there's a 1% chance of getting it right
#3467 [20:15] <Diablothein> <.<
#3468 [20:15] <Diablothein> >.>
#3469 [20:15] <Diablothein> Frozen water, frozen water, infant
#3470 [20:17] * DopeGhoti won't get into the semantics of biased probabilites, and will let it suffice to say that a one in two chance is only 50%/50% if there is an equal chance of one of the two being right over the other.
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#3472 [20:31] <xales> Kealpy!
#3473 [20:31] <xales> I have a question for you
#3474 [20:35] <aetherian> his name isn't kealpy, it's kelly :D
#3475 [20:35] * aetherian is away: me loves grammers. me fail english's? that unpossible!
#3475 [20:35] <xales> I sure hope
#3476 [20:35] <xales> that was you typing that
#3477 [20:35] <xales> and not some shitty script
#3478 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> it's also not an exact quote.
#3479 [20:38] * aetherian can't code, so no worries.
#3479 [20:38] * xales is worried, because aetherian can download
#3479 [20:38] * aetherian assures xales that he does not use any scripts
#3479 [20:39] * aetherian doesn't even know how to use one if he had one
#3479 [20:39] * xales does not believe propoganda
#3479 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> well, you're good enough to get xchat going on Windows 7..
#3480 [20:39] <aetherian> hmm?
#3481 [20:39] <aetherian> all I did was download it
#3482 [20:40] <aetherian> and install it
#3483 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> that's three steps ahead of most people
#3484 [20:40] <aetherian> uh
#3485 [20:40] <aetherian> what?
#3486 [20:40] <aetherian> what's the first step, then?
#3487 [20:40] <xales> Mibbit
#3488 [20:40] <xales> .____________________________.
#3489 [20:41] <aetherian> that's not a step, it's a void.
#3490 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> step zero: Realize that mIRC is a terrible program.
#3491 [20:41] <aetherian> realized that over a year ago
#3492 [20:41] <aetherian> so bloated...
#3493 [20:41] <aetherian> well brb
#3494 [20:41] <xales> step -1, realize that mibbit isn't the only way to use IRC and that IRC is not just something that runs in the browser
#3495 [20:41] <aetherian> I need more nacho cheese
#3496 [20:41] <aetherian> and chips
#3497 [20:41] <xales> aparrantly
#3498 [20:41] <aetherian> ?
#3499 [20:41] <xales> oh, DopeGhoti
#3500 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> when aetherian I will inform em that someone was discussing eir choice of IRC clients while ey was away.
#3501 [20:41] <aetherian> *aparrently.
#3502 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> s/I/returns, &/
#3503 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes?
#3504 [20:42] <aetherian> I couldn't understand that sentence, dopefish
#3505 [20:42] <aetherian> brb
#3506 [20:42] <xales> I'm working on rewriting the scripting stuff for my bot, and I need inspiration. so I may ask you at some point for ideas or whatever
#3507 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> that's okay, you're not supposed to be using aetherian's computer anyhow.
#3508 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'd be pleased to be of service.
#3509 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> (which bot?)
#3510 [20:43] <xales> xalesbot
#3511 [20:43] <xales> my bot software >.>
#3512 [20:43] <xales> its not around right now
#3513 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> which sales is xalesbot in charge of? :)
#3514 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> s/is/are/
#3515 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> but anyhow, yes, I'd be happy to help
#3516 [20:43] <xales> ._.
#3517 [20:43] <xales> thanks
#3518 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> in which language is it written?
#3519 [20:46] <xales> the bot itself is written in C
#3520 [20:46] <xales> but the scripting is done in Lua
#3521 [20:47] <xales> (because I'm to lazy to use a language that doesn't take 10 seconds to implement)
#3522 [20:47] <xales> Lua = sucks
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#3524 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> Lua can't - _can't_ - be worse than TCL.
#3525 [20:47] <aetherian> back
#3526 [20:47] * aetherian is back (gone 00:12:11)
#3526 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: welcome back. While you were away, someone was at your keyboard, discussing IRC clients and nachos with us.
#3527 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> just thought you'd like to know.
#3528 [20:48] <aetherian> well, they can discuss nachos, but I'm eating nachos
#3529 [20:48] <aetherian> >:O
#3530 [20:48] <xales> it isn't, thankfully, DopeGhoti
#3531 [20:48] <xales> its still bad ._.
#3532 [20:48] <xales> the bot is multithreaded, but I implemented it using mutexes so it is a bit slower than I would like
#3533 [20:48] * DopeGhoti lives for the day that some team releases an Eggdrop clone that runs on Python or some other reasonable language.
#3533 [20:49] <clone1018> WAT
#3534 [20:49] <xales> DopeGhoti: that was the reason for creating my bot
#3535 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#3536 [20:49] <xales> to not use a stupid-ass amount of ram and to use a real language
#3537 [20:49] <xales> I couldn't get the bot process to show up in top
#3538 [20:49] <xales> because it uses actually no resources
#3539 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> you should see the ridiculous crap I had to do in order to get my damned bot to talk to me SQL server.
#3540 [20:49] * DopeGhoti shudders
#3540 [20:50] <xales> I used some macros so all you have to do to add a lua function is just write a function as
#3541 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> TODO: Learn Lia.
#3542 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> and also Lua
#3543 [20:50] <xales> LUA_FUNC(nameoffunctioninc){/*code*/}
#3544 [20:51] <xales> then you just add a line "luahelper_addfunc(nameoffunctioninc, 'functioninlua');"
#3545 [20:51] <xales> nice and not retarded
#3546 [20:51] <xales> so you write your SQL stuff in C (very easy, I might add)
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#3548 [20:51] <xales> and just have the lua code call that C
#3549 [20:57] <Diablothein> ugh... homework, must go to it...
#3550 [20:57] <xales> ugh... Diablothein, must go to it...
#3551 [20:58] <Visiiri> <clone1018> F:
#3552 [20:58] <Visiiri> <clone1018> D:
#3553 [20:58] <Visiiri> <clone1018> I hated it
#3554 [20:58] <Visiiri> <clone1018> I truly did
#3555 [20:58] <Visiiri> jerk
#3556 [20:58] <clone1018> No
#3557 [20:58] <clone1018> Did not
#3558 [20:58] <Diablothein> xales, you're zombie enough, you feel like doing my homework for me? gotta read 18 pages in my textbook, take very close notes.
#3559 [20:58] <Visiiri> lies
#3560 [21:01] <xales> hmm
#3561 [21:01] <xales> fedex me the textbook
#3562 [21:01] <xales> >:D
#3563 [21:01] * xales gets his lighter ready
#3563 [21:01] * Diablothein fedexes xales a box bomb
#3563 [21:02] <Diablothein> >:D
#3564 [21:02] * xales knows how to disarm a bomb, for undisclosed reasons
#3564 [21:02] <lemon-rev> eewww minecraft.net having trouble
#3565 [21:02] <lemon-rev> ?
#3566 [21:03] <xales> isminecraftdown.net
#3567 [21:03] <lemon-rev> ok so its up and down then
#3568 [21:03] <Diablothein> Sup Reverend
#3569 [21:03] <lemon-rev> just had trouble loggin into minecraft thats all
#3570 [21:03] <lemon-rev> and watching documentrys while im going to play
#3571 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> Diablothein: bold-print studying. Learn it; live it, love it.
#3572 [21:04] <Diablothein> ghoti, this is not regular class
#3573 [21:04] <Diablothein> this is not college class
#3574 [21:04] <Diablothein> THIS!
#3575 [21:05] <Diablothein> IS!
#3576 [21:05] <Diablothein> AP!
#3577 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> okay, so also pay attention to italics.
#3578 [21:05] <Diablothein> dude... I spent four hours reading 15 pages last night...
#3579 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> was it a three point font on A3?
#3580 [21:06] <Diablothein> close, but, smaller.
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#3582 [21:07] <i81u812> hey
#3583 [21:07] <i81u812> if the map is flat can you ever reach the edge or does it always render more?
#3584 [21:07] <Diablothein> depends, classic or beta?
#3585 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> there's no edge per se
#3586 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> it gets increasingly flat and more.. 'strange' due to rounding errors in the terrain generator
#3587 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> there are vids on Youtube of what the 'edge' of the world it like; just STFW for them
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#3590 [21:15] <The_Buckinator> Hello D:
#3591 [21:17] <The_Buckinator> I need some help with my SMP server. I portforwarded properly, i can connect locally but when i give my friend the number to get in, it says he logged in, then he disconnects.
#3592 [21:17] <The_Buckinator> I disabled ALL my antiviruses and stuff.
#3593 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> The_Buckinator: what disconnect message on your log?
#3594 [21:17] <The_Buckinator> Timeout
#3595 [21:17] <The_Buckinator> sometimes .EndOfSteam
#3596 [21:18] <The_Buckinator> tried googleing an answer, tried all the solutions, none have helped
#3597 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> is your friend able to connect without this issue to other servers?
#3598 [21:18] <The_Buckinator> Not sure.
#3599 [21:18] <The_Buckinator> i am
#3600 [21:18] <The_Buckinator> ill check right now.
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#3602 [21:21] <The_Buckinator> Yes.
#3603 [21:21] <The_Buckinator> he can join.
#3604 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> but does he stay joined?
#3605 [21:22] <The_Buckinator> yeah
#3606 [21:22] <The_Buckinator> he was moving around with me
#3607 [21:23] <The_Buckinator> on a popular world
#3608 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> hmm. Okay, so let's look at your end, then.
#3609 [21:23] <Diablothein> Next layer for the tree just got planted.
#3610 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> are others having similar problems on your server?
#3611 [21:23] <The_Buckinator> yeah
#3612 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> what sort of connection are we talking about?
#3613 [21:24] <The_Buckinator> only i can. i portforwarded, checked and my port is open, i give them my non-local IP:Port and in my log it says they connect, then timeout
#3614 [21:25] <The_Buckinator> it just says "Logging in..." on his side, then he dissconnects
#3615 [21:25] <The_Buckinator> i can see his character floating around
#3616 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> do you mind sharing the IP?
#3617 [21:26] <The_Buckinator> sec
#3618 [21:27] <The_Buckinator> 24.138.159.9:25565
#3619 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> !check 24.138.159.9
#3620 [21:28] <The_Buckinator> good news?
#3621 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> the bot was able to make a connection
#3622 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> trying the client now
#3623 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> been a while since I fired it up at work, so I've updates to get :)
#3624 [21:29] <The_Buckinator> lmao
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#3626 [21:29] <The_Buckinator> Cause yeah, i haven't really seen anyone with this problem. so this is my last resort :(
#3627 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#3628 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> This almost looks like a firewall problem
#3629 [21:30] <The_Buckinator> but thats the thing
#3630 [21:30] <The_Buckinator> ALL my firewalls are uninstalled and removed
#3631 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> I don't see any packets coming to me from your IP after the initial Minecraft protocol handshake
#3632 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> Is yours the only machine behind the router?
#3633 [21:30] <The_Buckinator> no
#3634 [21:30] <The_Buckinator> FFFF-
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#3636 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> can you try temporarily connecting your computer directly?
#3637 [21:31] <The_Buckinator> That's probably why.
#3638 [21:31] <The_Buckinator> like..
#3639 [21:31] <The_Buckinator> going to the main computer?
#3640 [21:31] <The_Buckinator> OH.
#3641 [21:31] <The_Buckinator> no :(
#3642 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#3643 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> I've seen this sort of issue before, and the problem boiled down to an issue with the router itslef
#3644 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> how old is the router, and when was its firmware updated last?
#3645 [21:32] <The_Buckinator> i erm, don't know
#3646 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> That would be the next thing I'd try, then
#3647 [21:32] <The_Buckinator> D-link DIR 615.
#3648 [21:32] <The_Buckinator> i dont know much other than that.
#3649 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> (oh, it's Dlink. My condolences)
#3650 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> (at least it's not Linksys)
#3651 [21:33] <The_Buckinator> :P
#3652 [21:33] <xales> The_Buckinator: what kind of internet connection do you have
#3653 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> I'd look into looking for a firmware update for the router
#3654 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> based on the IP, I'd guess cable
#3655 [21:33] <The_Buckinator> no honest idea.
#3656 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> I'd guess.. east-coast cable.
#3657 [21:33] <The_Buckinator> i had a hard time googling what "Portforward" meant.
#3658 [21:34] <The_Buckinator> so im not exactly the smartest cookie in the shed for computers
#3659 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> I'm sorry to bail on you, but my code finished compiling and I have to get back to work now :/
#3660 [21:34] <The_Buckinator> oh
#3661 [21:34] <The_Buckinator> kk
#3662 [21:34] <dopeghoti> good luck!
#3663 [21:34] <Diablothein> Kealper, wake up
#3664 [21:34] <xales> Kealpy
#3665 [21:34] <xales> we know you are there
#3666 [21:34] <Diablothein> xales, wake up
#3667 [21:38] <xales> Kealper: Kealper Kealper
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#3677 [22:18] <pileofstix> Hi. I'm running Minecraft Beta on an HP dm3 laptop and I'm still getting that crazy lag that should have been fixed, I believe.I was wondering if it's because my graphics card, an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD?
#3678 [22:18] <xales> hmm
#3679 [22:18] <xales> I'd say its almost certainly because the computer can't handle it
#3680 [22:18] <xales> intel GMAs are absolutely horrid
#3681 [22:19] <xales> oh yeah
#3682 [22:19] <pileofstix> Well that sucks. :-(Alpha worked fine.
#3683 [22:19] <xales> that is definately the problem
#3684 [22:19] <pileofstix> Thanks a lot for your help. I appreciate it. :-)
#3685 [22:20] <xales> no problem
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#3687 [22:45] <aetherian> hmm
#3688 [22:46] <aetherian> what're good specs for a graphics card to run mc?
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#3690 [22:46] <aetherian> hey conor
#3691 [22:50] <aetherian> _what_ is up
#3692 [22:51] <aetherian> not much, I guess
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#3694 [23:01] <Diablothein> Make love.
#3695 [23:01] <Diablothein> Not Warcraft
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#3697 [23:03] <aetherian> haha
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#3702 [23:10] <WoM-Guest> hello
#3703 [23:10] <aetherian> hello.
#3704 [23:10] <aetherian> oh you.
#3705 [23:10] <Lemurboy07> i need help
#3706 [23:10] <lemon-rev> whats up
#3707 [23:10] <aetherian> you just ticked me off.
#3708 [23:10] <aetherian> earlier
#3709 [23:10] <Lemurboy07> me?
#3710 [23:11] <aetherian> mmhmm
#3711 [23:11] <Lemurboy07> what did i say
#3712 [23:11] <aetherian> in #mcchatter , you log on, say hey guys, and leave instantly.
#3713 [23:11] <Lemurboy07> yeah cus no one responded
#3714 [23:12] <Lemurboy07> beside i want to talk about how mstory was replaced by a por* site
#3715 [23:12] <aetherian> .........
#3716 [23:12] <Lemurboy07> maplestory was replaced with a porn site
#3717 [23:12] <aetherian> no one responded
#3718 [23:12] <aetherian> because
#3719 [23:12] <aetherian> you didn't wait long enough
#3720 [23:12] <Lemurboy07> ...
#3721 [23:12] <aetherian> you waited like
#3722 [23:12] <aetherian> thirty seconds
#3723 [23:13] <TrueWolves> Most new people on IRC won't wait longer then 5 minutes absolutly ever, none of them multitask or talk on more then one channel
#3724 [23:13] <TrueWolves> none of them
#3725 [23:13] <Lemurboy07> True i need help
#3726 [23:13] <TrueWolves> ...
#3727 [23:13] <xales> lol
#3728 [23:13] <TrueWolves> For once
#3729 [23:13] <TrueWolves> Thank you peer.
#3730 [23:14] <aetherian> haha
#3731 [23:14] <aetherian> he quit because of
#3732 [23:14] <aetherian> peer pressure
#3733 [23:14] <Diablothein> Fact: I will only respond every half hour if not more.
#3734 [23:14] <Diablothein> Reasoning: En masse Homework.
#3735 [23:15] <aetherian> fact: if I am on, I will check all channels frequently
#3736 [23:15] <Diablothein> Lol, I monitor my channels on a different network, this channel, and private messages, sure, I may lurk in #minecraft, but, not active, barely if ever.
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#3738 [23:17] <aetherian> oh
#3739 [23:17] <aetherian> I don't go on #minecraft
#3740 [23:17] <Diablothein> lol, I just lurk.
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#3742 [23:18] <KillSpammer> Hello.
#3743 [23:19] <aetherian> hello
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#3748 [23:40] <cfdpipeman> does anyone know, roughly, how much band width each player takes up on a server?
#3749 [23:41] <KillSpammer> Nope
#3750 [23:41] <KillSpammer> You could measure it by seeing how much lag you have without a player
#3751 [23:41] <KillSpammer> Then test it by logging in with a player than managing it
#3752 [23:42] <KillSpammer> than seeing how much lag you have*
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#3754 [23:44] <cfdpipeman> I just wanted to know if anyone knew off hand. If not I will have to test it. Thanks
#3755 [23:45] * Diablothein sighs
#3755 [23:45] <Diablothein> Now, it will be quieter
#3756 [23:47] <KillSpammer> Lol
#3757 [23:47] <aetherian> har har
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#3760 [23:55] <Diablothein> You know what you should never do?
#3761 [23:55] <Diablothein> Drink pure lemon extract, 2 cups of it...
#3762 [23:56] <xales> I do that daily
#3763 [23:56] <Diablothein> xales, prove it.
#3764 [23:57] * xales proves it
#3764 [23:57] <Diablothein> I see no proof
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