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#2 [00:02] <cpt_snacks> I didn't really expect that to help anything, but I reset my router because yesterday I turned on UPnP and that's when these problems started occurring
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#4 [00:04] <xales> oh, that probably wouldn't create those problems
#5 [00:04] <cpt_snacks> Didn't think it would
#6 [00:04] <xales> I'd say try on another computer on the same connection if possible
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#8 [00:05] <xales> if it works, its your computer (which seems most likely to me)
#9 [00:06] <Alderin> Was there a recent update? I played yesterday for hours, now I get a black screen and crash report.
#10 [00:07] <xales> Pastebin.com the crash report
#11 [00:08] <Alderin> http://pastebin.com/WyenZPwU
#12 [00:10] <Alderin> Ubuntu 10.4lts (32bit), nVidia GTS450, Intel I5 processor, 4gb ram.
#13 [00:10] <xales> Alderin: That is..really odd, its an error being generated by X
#14 [00:10] <xales> All I can say is try restarting X...best way to do that is to just restart
#15 [00:10] <Alderin> Generated by X, ok, I'll try re-installing the nVidia driver.
#16 [00:11] <Alderin> Already tried the reboot, and shutdown, stopped short of reinstalling java.
#17 [00:11] <xales> I don't think the driver is related, but then, I have no idea where X is failing. It isn't verbose enough
#18 [00:11] <Alderin> The server runs without issue, with GUI.
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#20 [00:12] <aetherian> heya guys
#21 [00:12] <Alderin> bbiab
#22 [00:12] <cpt_snacks> I think I might have found the problem
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#24 [00:13] <cpt_snacks> I checked Activity Monitor and a process related to my old firewall is still running for some reason
#25 [00:14] <xales> cpt_snacks: Kill the process, (though that may not be enough), and make sure you have fully uninstalled the program
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#27 [00:20] <cpt_snacks> AVAST
#28 [00:20] <rpare005> Hey guys
#29 [00:20] <cpt_snacks> SMP BE WORKIN'
#30 [00:21] <xales> Hello, rpare005
#31 [00:21] <rpare005> o_o
#32 [00:21] <rpare005> How are you?
#33 [00:21] <cpt_snacks> Thanks for the help xales
#34 [00:21] <xales> mhmm
#35 [00:21] <xales> rpare005: I'm fine I suppose
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#37 [00:23] <rpare005> I have encountered an issue trying to run a server for my friends and I
#38 [00:23] <rpare005> It works in environments it should not, and does not work in an environment it should
#39 [00:23] <Alderin> That seemed to fix it. I guess an OS update changed the X driver.
#40 [00:24] <xales> rpare005: What do you mean?
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#42 [00:26] <rpare005> On a public university connection (where all ports and most connection types are blocked) the server can be accessed just fine. But on the other hand, on my home network where the port is open, it can't be accessed by others
#43 [00:28] <xales> Did you set up port-forwarding at home?
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#45 [00:31] <rpare005> >_<
#46 [00:33] <rpare005> Was a reply posted to the query I had previously posted? A slight software issue caused a browser reset before I could see anything
#47 [00:33] <xales> Oh, yeah.
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#49 [00:33] <xales> Did you set up port-forwarding at home?
#50 [00:33] <rpare005> Yes, I did
#51 [00:34] <rpare005> My friend tries to connect and gets a failure to connect message
#52 [00:34] <rpare005> Is my WPA key causing a problem?
#53 [00:35] <xales> No, that wouldn't be an issue
#54 [00:35] <xales> though running a server on Wifi is a really bad idea
#55 [00:35] <rpare005> ?
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#57 [00:36] <xales> Wifi is really laggy
#58 [00:36] <xales> for servers, and very unreliable
#59 [00:36] <xales> packets get dropped, etc.
#60 [00:37] <rpare005> We did pretty okay on the open connection at the university
#61 [00:37] <xales> Universities also tend to have much better Wifi broadcasting than what is available for residential use =\
#62 [00:37] <xales> but even so, it shouldn't be a huge issue for 2 or 3 people
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#64 [00:39] <aetherian> darn teacher
#65 [00:39] <aetherian> needs us to install microsoft viso >.>
#66 [00:39] <aetherian> visio
#67 [00:39] <rpare005> I would like to be able to set up a server that can run 24/7 on a wired connection but unfortunately that isnt possible at the moment
#68 [00:40] <aetherian> why not?
#69 [00:40] <aetherian> no wires?
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#71 [00:41] <xales> rpare005: Unfortunately, home connections don't usually work 24/7, best bet is to go with a server provider.
#72 [00:42] <rpare005> Would I be able to use the config and data files from the current server?
#73 [00:42] <xales> Depends on the provider - generally, yes
#74 [00:42] <xales> they let you upload your own world and change configs however you want
#75 [00:43] <rpare005> Would it be against IRC rules to point me in the right direction?
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#77 [00:48] <rpare005> which would you say is the better option?
#78 [00:48] <xales> Up to you, I haven't used either
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#80 [00:49] <xales> Allgamer is much more support-focused, but no a big company, whereas multiplay is a big company, and won't have the most direct support
#81 [00:49] <xales> (some of the Allgamer guys hang around here)
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#83 [00:50] <aetherian> about that allgamer thing
#84 [00:50] <aetherian> when it asks about memory
#85 [00:51] <aetherian> what's a good amount
#86 [00:51] <aetherian> for a small server
#87 [00:51] <aetherian> private one
#88 [00:51] <xales> aetherian: Um, the smallest?
#89 [00:51] <xales> It clearly says the max # of slots next to each option
#90 [00:51] <aetherian> is 512mb really enough?
#91 [00:52] <xales> For how many people?
#92 [00:52] <aetherian> slots is different than... yeah
#93 [00:52] <aetherian> think five-six maximum
#94 [00:52] <aetherian> with potentially a couple pyros
#95 [00:52] <aetherian> and tnt lovers
#96 [00:52] <xales> I'd go with 1GB then
#97 [00:52] <aetherian> and if there were no big tnt explosions?
#98 [00:53] <aetherian> (maybe fire)
#99 [00:53] <xales> Still 1GB
#100 [00:53] <aetherian> hmm
#101 [00:53] <xales> mmmmaybe 768
#102 [00:53] <aetherian> a second ago you were saying 512mB
#103 [00:53] <aetherian> heh
#104 [00:53] <aetherian> okay, because I'm already doing it, ima ask another hyperannoying similiar question
#105 [00:54] <aetherian> do you think the 512MB would work for around 3-4 people on the server at the same time?
#106 [00:54] <aetherian> probably less given the reliability of my friends >..
#107 [00:56] * aetherian coughs
#107 [00:56] <xales> umm
#108 [00:56] <xales> maybe? I don't know
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#111 [00:56] <dgguidryjr> hey guys, i had the no sound bug and now i can't even start minecraft up, i keep getting these fatal errors
#112 [00:56] <aetherian> mmk
#113 [00:57] <dgguidryjr> actually sorry
#114 [00:57] <dgguidryjr> i can start it up now, log in
#115 [00:57] <aetherian> protip: quit stabbing it in the heart
#116 [00:57] <dgguidryjr> but when i try to turn sound on, i get a fatal error and it crashes
#117 [00:57] <xales> dgguidryjr: put one of the errors on http://pastebin.com/
#118 [00:57] <aetherian> that stops /some/ /fatal/ errors
#119 [00:58] <dgguidryjr> http://pastebin.com/aGNjtuqT
#120 [00:59] <dgguidryjr> anything?
#121 [01:00] <xales> Yeah...all I can think of
#122 [01:00] <xales> is check sound drivers =\
#123 [01:00] <dgguidryjr> drivers? as in reinstall my sound drivers?
#124 [01:01] <xales> yeah, make sure they are latest version and whatever
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#126 [01:01] <xales> if it is a particularly old soundcard, that may be the issue
#127 [01:01] <dgguidryjr> its an onboard sound card, maybe this has something to do with me using audio interfaces intermittently
#128 [01:02] <xales> dgguidryjr: Depends on the quality of the onboard card, I also have an onboard soundcard, they don't have the same issues as graphics cards do with being onboard
#129 [01:02] <xales> most people actually have onboard sound now
#130 [01:02] <dgguidryjr> i mean, its not some old POS mobo
#131 [01:03] <dgguidryjr> i purchased it from newegg christmas 2009 maybe
#132 [01:03] <xales> I would guess that it could just be bad drivers then
#133 [01:07] <rpare005> Xales, what could be causing the problem with me running the server over a wireless connection, other than the spottiness ofthe wireless conneciton
#134 [01:08] <xales> rpare005: Double NAT, DHCP, etc
#135 [01:08] <rpare005> ?
#136 [01:08] <xales> ?
#137 [01:09] <rpare005> It's a bit late, so bear with me a bit. Would the problem be computer side or router side?
#138 [01:10] <xales> Could be either
#139 [01:11] <Mathuin> While I know it's a third-party product, I am curious as to whether anyone here has had good experiences with c10t in the google-maps way.
#140 [01:17] <rpare005> Could you try connecting to my server, to see if it may not be just on their end?
#141 [01:19] <xales> Sure, what IP?
#142 [01:19] <rpare005> I sent it over PM
#143 [01:20] <xales> I saw
#144 [01:20] <xales> Doesn't work
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#146 [01:22] <rpare005> Maybe I'm trying the wrong IP
#147 [01:23] <xales> No, that looks correct
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#149 [01:23] <xales> Make sure that the port-forward is valid, as IPs do tend to change
#150 [01:25] <rpare005> I set the port forwarding to 25565 to 25565
#151 [01:29] <rpare005> Should I try a different port?
#152 [01:29] <xales> No, but make sure the address it is forwarding to is correct
#153 [01:30] <rpare005> Yeah, it's set to forward to the right IP
#154 [01:30] <xales> What IP is that?
#155 [01:30] <rpare005> The one I sent you
#156 [01:31] <xales> That would be why it isn't working
#157 [01:31] <xales> You have to forward it to your internal IP, not your external IP
#158 [01:32] <rpare005> My external is an entirely different IP
#159 [01:33] <rpare005> It's not even in the same subnet
#160 [01:34] <xales> Wait, what?
#161 [01:35] <rpare005> I know
#162 [01:35] <xales> Your external IP should be 98.249.141.219, right?
#163 [01:35] <rpare005> yeah
#164 [01:36] <rpare005> And the router says it's on a seperate subnet from 66.xxx.xxx.xxx
#165 [01:36] <xales> Why is your router assigning those addresses?
#166 [01:36] <xales> It shouldn't do that
#167 [01:36] <xales> that is...really bad
#168 [01:36] <xales> anyway
#169 [01:36] <xales> !check 98.249.141.219
#170 [01:36] <rpare005> I think I may know the problem
#171 [01:36] <xales> yeah, that seems to work
#172 [01:37] <xales> Just give your friend your external address (98.249.141.219)
#173 [01:37] <rpare005> I think one IP is for the 2.4 GHz broadcast and one is for the 5 GHz
#174 [01:38] <rpare005> Can you try connecting to my server with 98.249.141.219?
#175 [01:38] <xales> I just did, it works
#176 [01:38] <rpare005> ok
#177 [01:38] <rpare005> Thanks
#178 [01:38] <xales> Anyway, routers shouldn't assign stuff to that
#179 [01:39] <xales> it isn't an address space meant for use, and will inhibit your ability to access some websites
#180 [01:39] <xales> meant for private routing use*
#181 [01:40] <rpare005> I think the router distributes ip addresses to the pcs on the network addresses in the 66.xxx.xxx.xxx range and the actual IP is 98.249.141.219
#182 [01:41] <xales> Yeah, the 66. range isn't for private routing
#183 [01:41] <Mathuin> Who owns 66.x ?
#184 [01:42] <xales> No idea, but it isn't allowed for private use by 1918
#185 [01:42] <Mathuin> I cannot wait for IPv6 to wipe away all the NAT crap.
#186 [01:43] <xales> indeed
#187 [01:44] <xales> strange...Comcast Miami owns 66.229.128.0/17
#188 [01:44] <xales> Fucking Comcast is smoking some weird shit
#189 [01:46] <aetherian> heh
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#195 [02:07] <THJr> Evening, anywone awake that can help me out?
#196 [02:07] <THJr> *anyone
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#198 [02:08] <xales> THJr: What do you need help with?
#199 [02:09] <THJr> I'm having a crash I can't seem to find on the forums, and it lacks error codes or anything. Was hopeing someone could help me find the solution. When I start the game, it lets me patch/log in to the server, but freezes when I get to the Mojang Specs screen
#200 [02:10] <xales> Is this on the download or in-browser version?
#201 [02:10] <THJr> Running Vista (yeaaahhh...) but all the system specs are met, so I was wondering if you had any ideas
#202 [02:10] <THJr> both actually
#203 [02:10] <THJr> same exact thing happens
#204 [02:10] <xales> What are the specs (mostly RAM and graphics card)
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#206 [02:11] <THJr> 2 GB of Ram, Nvidia 8600 GT
#207 [02:12] <xales> I'd be a tad bit concerned about RAM, but that shouldn't be freezing it there
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#209 [02:12] <xales> Do you have any antivirus or 'computer security' software installed?
#210 [02:12] <Firerat> I am trying to make the stargate plugin work... apperently my minecraft server is missing folders... like plugin and bin and stuff
#211 [02:12] <THJr> Hmm, I do have avast antivirus installed, but it runs fine on my other computer which alsohas it
#212 [02:13] <xales> Firerat: Servers don't have plugin/bin folders, and we don't support 3rd party software, which includes mods, sorry.
#213 [02:13] <THJr> Ill try disabling it, and return with the results
#214 [02:13] <xales> THJr: ok
#215 [02:13] <Firerat> :(
#216 [02:15] <THJr> same crash it seems
#217 [02:15] <xales> THJr: Try this
#218 [02:15] <xales> !reinstall
#219 [02:15] <THJr> that solution comes up that often, eh? XD
#220 [02:16] <xales> Indeed
#221 [02:20] <lemon-rev> how does one get minecraft toys lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOFzXKiCwB4&feature=watch_response
#222 [02:23] <THJr> well now it went and froze so that I can't even close it <.<
#223 [02:23] <xales> when did it freeze?
#224 [02:23] <THJr> same place, mojang screen. though according to task manager it's still running
#225 [02:24] <THJr> I've given it about 10 mins, but I think thats a little much to load a menu...
#226 [02:24] <lemon-rev> thjr you got your java updated ?
#227 [02:24] <xales> In Task Manager, how much RAM are you using?
#228 [02:24] <THJr> 1.15 GB, with the thing running
#229 [02:25] <xales> Only 1.15? That seems quite low
#230 [02:26] <THJr> also, updated it yesterday, but I can check again I suppose, why not
#231 [02:26] <lemon-rev> k
#232 [02:26] <xales> Can you take a screenshot of the task manager page with the resource utilization graphs?
#233 [02:27] <THJr> that I can
#234 [02:30] <THJr> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7240/quickscreen.png
#235 [02:31] <THJr> also, that little close/restore/minimize window will not go away xd
#236 [02:33] <xales> THJr: What other applications do you have open?
#237 [02:34] <THJr> Steam, Trillian, Chrome, and Paint at the time of that screen. When I launched the game, just steam
#238 [02:35] <THJr> (I've tried launching without it, doesn't make a difference)
#239 [02:37] <xales> THJr: As fake as the domain looks, download and run this, and pastebin the report http://free.antivirus.com/hijackthis/ (legitimate software, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HijackThis)
#240 [02:39] <THJr> what will this do?
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#242 [02:40] <THJr> hopefully not be a virus? XD
#243 [02:40] <xales> It lists the current state of key sections of your computer
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#245 [02:41] <THJr> so, do a system scan?
#246 [02:41] <xales> more or less
#247 [02:41] <xales> but the output is more verbose
#248 [02:42] <xales> it isn't looking for viruses as much, but just for any funky settings
#249 [02:42] <Hpn> does anyone know if is it possible to change login name ?
#250 [02:42] <xales> Hpn: You could try emailing them, but it is unlikely they will change it
#251 [02:42] <xales> they are busy with people who have more pressing issues
#252 [02:43] <Hpn> well i cant play anywhere because of my 3 character login
#253 [02:43] <Hpn> cant say it isnt 'pressing'
#254 [02:43] <xales> Hpn: What do you mean?
#255 [02:44] <Hpn> all the servers i try to play
#256 [02:44] <Hpn> they have some mods i think
#257 [02:44] <Hpn> they wont let anyone with less than 4 letters play
#258 [02:45] <THJr> alright, this is.... output. what do I do with this? XD
#259 [02:45] <xales> THJr: pastebin.com
#260 [02:46] <THJr> do you want this while minecraft is starting up?
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#262 [02:51] <THJr> http://pastebin.com/dVqSW8zQ
#263 [02:51] <xales> Nope, just at any point
#264 [02:51] <THJr> ah, I did it while it ran
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#266 [02:53] <THJr> not gonna use that to steal my stuff are you? didn't see anything when I read through it, but what do I know? ;P
#267 [02:53] <xales> No, none of that stuff could be used maliciously
#268 [02:54] <THJr> but now you know... THAT I OWN A TOM TOM GPS *dramatic music* .... but yeah, see anything of interesT?
#269 [02:54] <xales> Not really, the only other thing I can think of
#270 [02:55] <xales> is download http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php and run a full scan =/
#271 [02:55] <THJr> malwarebytes I have, actually XD
#272 [02:55] <aetherian> this guy has a virus?
#273 [02:55] <THJr> I don't think this is a virus, the GPU on this laptop tends to break things
#274 [02:55] <aetherian> have you ran a registry fixer thingy
#275 [02:55] <aetherian> like ccleaner
#276 [02:56] <THJr> cccleaner I also have
#277 [02:56] <aetherian> including the registry part
#278 [02:56] <THJr> I am computer saavy, just not too minecraft saavy at the moment XD
#279 [02:56] <aetherian> what OS are ya on?
#280 [02:56] <THJr> vista 32 bit, because thats what the laptop came with
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#283 [02:57] <aetherian> quick: delete system32, it's a dangerous virus :O
#284 [02:57] <THJr> The worst :P
#285 [02:57] <Armalitex> oh i know
#286 [02:57] <aetherian> especially on vista
#287 [02:57] <aetherian> ugh
#288 [02:57] <Armalitex> ruined 3 of my lappys
#289 [02:58] <aetherian> laptops>desktops
#290 [02:58] <THJr> but you should probably not say that on a tech support channel, given that there may be non-computer-saavy people about
#291 [02:58] <aetherian> oh come now
#292 [02:59] <aetherian> do you think anyone would really fall for it?
#293 [02:59] <THJr> Ive seen it happen, ID10T errors you see
#294 [02:59] <Armalitex> so random question, how does one start a normal game [like on single player] where theres days, nights,mobs etc, on a multiplayer with other people?
#295 [02:59] <aetherian> well
#296 [02:59] <aetherian> more laughter then, thjr
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#298 [03:00] <aetherian> armalitex: how do you not?
#299 [03:00] <Mathuin> Armalitex: they are effectively the same.
#300 [03:01] <xales> Armalitex: You would open the game, click 'single-player', and pick the save slot to use
#301 [03:01] <Armalitex> i mean, how do you do so with groupls of people
#302 [03:01] <aetherian> !server
#303 [03:01] <aetherian> get that
#304 [03:01] <xales> aetherian: Wrong
#305 [03:01] <Mathuin> A very useful command.
#306 [03:01] <xales> Don't do what he says
#307 [03:01] <aetherian> xales: then what is he asking?
#308 [03:02] <aetherian> that's what I figure...
#309 [03:02] <Armalitex> im asking, how do you pretty much co-op
#310 [03:02] <xales> Armalitex: You would find the IP of a server you would like to play on, and type that into the box after clicking multiplayer
#311 [03:02] <aetherian> you have to run a server
#312 [03:02] <aetherian> or go on a seperate server
#313 [03:02] <Armalitex> ah
#314 [03:02] <xales> aetherian: He isn't looking to run a server
#315 [03:02] <aetherian> xales: he might be
#316 [03:02] <xales> aetherian: No, he isn't
#317 [03:03] <xales> Learn to listen to what people say
#318 [03:03] <aetherian> xales: I must be really braindead, because I'm still not seeing it
#319 [03:03] <aetherian> but well
#320 [03:03] <aetherian> I'm probably braindead
#321 [03:04] <feenyx> no no, you just have too much blood in your caffeine stream
#322 [03:04] * aetherian yawns
#322 [03:04] <aetherian> gotta finish this paper... and do my history... and do my science...
#323 [03:04] <aetherian> ughschool
#324 [03:04] <xales> lol history class
#325 [03:04] <xales> :P
#326 [03:05] <aetherian> it happens when you are young
#327 [03:05] <xales> lol young
#328 [03:05] <aetherian> but hey, just went to my first community college class :)
#329 [03:05] <aetherian> earlier today
#330 [03:05] <xales> lol community college
#331 [03:05] <aetherian> darn young teenagers going to community college
#332 [03:06] <Mathuin> I am enjoying my community college classes.
#333 [03:06] <THJr> oh wow, must have been a while since I last scanned the registry
#334 [03:06] <aetherian> mine is going to be too easy
#335 [03:06] <THJr> *fixfixfix*
#336 [03:06] <Mathuin> I was literally twice as old as the kids in my classes last term.
#337 [03:06] <aetherian> I am probably literally half as old as some of the people in my class :#
#338 [03:06] <xales> nothing wrong with community college, but aetherian, arent you 14 or something
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#340 [03:06] <aetherian> xales: I have never said any such thing concerning my age
#341 [03:07] <aetherian> and you're wrong anyway
#342 [03:07] <aetherian> granted
#343 [03:07] <xales> how old are you then? :P
#344 [03:07] <aetherian> age is but naught in the grand scheme of things
#345 [03:07] <xales> and I think Kealper said it
#346 [03:08] <aetherian> kealper said what?
#347 [03:08] <xales> you were 14
#348 [03:08] <xales> or something in that vicinity
#349 [03:08] <THJr> Hey, I got an assosiates in Engineering Science from a community college <.<
#350 [03:08] <aetherian> well then, he most likely was making a guess
#351 [03:08] <aetherian> as I have never said any such thing
#352 [03:09] <aetherian> -\
#353 [03:09] <aetherian> ^cyclops
#354 [03:09] <xales> aetherian: How old are you then?
#355 [03:09] <aetherian> blimey mate
#356 [03:10] <aetherian> you sure are set on figuring out how old I am, aren't you?
#357 [03:10] <THJr> well, it seems fixin' the registry errors did nothing
#358 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: I can guess :P
#359 [03:10] <aetherian> xales: guess away
#360 [03:10] <xales> THJr: Gotta reboot for some of em to take effect
#361 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 10
#362 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 11
#363 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 12
#364 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 13
#365 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 15
#366 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 16
#367 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 17
#368 [03:10] <xales> aetherian: 18
#369 [03:10] <aetherian> but allow me to make an inquiry as to what a certain sentence of yours meant
#370 [03:10] <THJr> 28!
#371 [03:10] <xales> one of those if your age
#372 [03:10] <xales> is*
#373 [03:10] <aetherian> you said
#374 [03:11] <aetherian> oh, and yes, xales
#375 [03:11] <aetherian> anyway
#376 [03:11] <aetherian> you said
#377 [03:11] <aetherian> "nothing wrong with community college... but aren't you 14 or suomething"
#378 [03:11] <aetherian> what do you mean "but?"
#379 [03:11] <Mathuin> It's kinda nice seeing the teenage girls and thinking "nope, I'm too smart for that."
#380 [03:12] <xales> Mathuin: haha
#381 [03:12] <aetherian> o.o
#382 [03:12] <xales> aetherian: I meant that nothing is wrong with community college unless you happen to be attending when you are 14 :P
#383 [03:12] <aetherian> and what would be wrong with attending if you were 14, anyway? that is what I do not understand.
#384 [03:13] <xales> ...
#385 [03:13] <aetherian> ^bad sentence structure on my part
#386 [03:13] <xales> don't talk to me about the education system
#387 [03:13] <aetherian> fine then
#388 [03:13] <xales> I will make you want to kill yourself
#389 [03:13] <aetherian> I shall give one more fact about myself
#390 [03:13] <aetherian> before I get back to my paper
#391 [03:13] <aetherian> one word
#392 [03:13] <aetherian> "homeschooled"
#393 [03:13] <xales> so you are 15
#394 [03:14] <THJr> anyway
#395 [03:14] <THJr> I think it's my bedtime
#396 [03:14] <THJr> so I will atempt to fix this another day
#397 [03:14] <THJr> thanks for your help xales
#398 [03:14] <xales> I think it is aetherian's bedtime =/
#399 [03:14] <aetherian> I tink it's past my bedtime
#400 [03:14] <aetherian> *think
#401 [03:14] <xales> THJr: No problem, and don't hesitate to come back. I may have more ideas when I am a bit more awake
#402 [03:14] <aetherian> and quit pinging me
#403 [03:14] <aetherian> dammit man
#404 [03:14] <aetherian> nice timing
#405 [03:15] <xales> thanks, lulz
#406 [03:15] <aetherian> besides, who says I'm not 16?
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#408 [03:15] <aetherian> or seventeen?
#409 [03:15] <xales> so, fifteen then
#410 [03:15] <aetherian> maybe.
#411 [03:15] <aetherian> maybe not.
#412 [03:15] <THJr> Quiet you, before I accuse you of illegal possesion of an alchoholic beverage!
#413 [03:15] <xales> that would be "yes"
#414 [03:15] <aetherian> xales: unless you happen to be fey
#415 [03:15] <aetherian> like me
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#417 [03:16] <THJr> And then take said alchoholic beverage and use it to make COLORFUL FIRES.
#418 [03:16] <aetherian> and what about the lower numbers
#419 [03:16] <aetherian> like ten, twelve, and thirteen
#420 [03:16] <THJr> anyway. night gents
#421 [03:16] <aetherian> ...not eleven
#422 [03:16] <xales> aetherian: Easily possile, but unlikely
#423 [03:16] <xales> THJr: night
#424 [03:17] <aetherian> xales: uhh... the place where a young herring is carried out?
#425 [03:18] <aetherian> some sort of amalgamation of pos and sile?
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#427 [03:19] <aetherian> !ping
#428 [03:19] <aetherian> oh
#429 [03:19] <aetherian> he ain'sn't on
#430 [03:20] <xales> fail
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#432 [03:20] <xorcon> ok how does one make tools , plz
#433 [03:20] <xales> xorcon: You make a workbench out of wood, and then use the workbench to make the tool
#434 [03:21] <aetherian> !tutorial
#435 [03:21] <xales> and that
#436 [03:21] <aetherian> aubot ftw
#437 [03:21] <xorcon> how many wood do i need for the tools , cant seem to get the right combonation
#438 [03:21] <aetherian> watch the vid
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#440 [03:21] <Mathuin> Out of curiosity, has the tutorial been updated to show you don't have to worry about coal now that we have charcoal?
#441 [03:21] <xales> xorcon: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tools
#442 [03:21] <Mathuin> xorcon: I get 20 if there's lots of trees.
#443 [03:22] <aetherian> mathuin: who needs charcoal
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#445 [03:22] <aetherian> I have yet to make charred coal
#446 [03:22] <aetherian> (not that I know how)
#447 [03:22] <Mathuin> bedtime.
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#449 [03:23] <aetherian> ow
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#451 [03:25] <aetherian> ugh, darn teacher
#452 [03:25] <aetherian> likes visual basic too much
#453 [03:34] <kourasmenosian> wow
#454 [03:34] <kourasmenosian> this place is dead
#455 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> knock knock
#456 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> who's there
#457 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> who
#458 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> who who
#459 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> well, I sure would hate to be a mouse around here
#460 [03:35] <kourasmenosian> *badumtisch*
#461 [03:38] <kourasmenosian> oh come now people
#462 [03:38] <kourasmenosian> gain a sense of humor
#463 [03:39] <kourasmenosian> uh...
#464 [03:39] <kourasmenosian> why are variations of xales, kealper, and greyvulpine on the ban list?
#465 [03:41] <kourasmenosian> oh my
#466 [03:41] <kourasmenosian> this place really is dead
#467 [03:41] * kourasmenosian clears his throat
#467 [03:41] <kourasmenosian> lalala
#468 [03:41] <kourasmenosian> oh I'm the barber of the Sevi-
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#470 [03:47] <kourasmenosian> heya connor
#471 [03:47] <ConMan8> hey dwelling antimatter dimension person
#472 [03:48] <kourasmenosian> uhh
#473 [03:48] <kourasmenosian> not exactly what my name means
#474 [03:48] <kourasmenosian> but oh well
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#477 [03:58] <kourasmenosian> is there a way to run mcserver nogui in windows (7)?
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#480 [04:08] <kourasmenosian> ...everyone went to sleep
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#483 [04:12] <kourasmenosian> meh
#484 [04:12] <kourasmenosian> done with my paper for the day
#485 [04:12] <kourasmenosian> on to his story
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#490 [04:26] <kourasmenosian> hmm
#491 [04:27] <kourasmenosian> I would so wear a shirt that said
#492 [04:27] <kourasmenosian> "NO: just laugh"
#493 [04:27] <kourasmenosian> or some combination thereof
#494 [04:28] <kourasmenosian> anyone get it?
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#497 [04:30] <kourasmenosian> anyone?
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#499 [04:31] <kourasmenosian> hmmph
#500 [04:34] <kourasmenosian> come now
#501 [04:34] <kourasmenosian> someone must have a sense of humor
#502 [04:38] <kourasmenosian> ...
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#504 [04:44] * kourasmenosian is away: bed
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#507 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Hey, AuBot's back
#508 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> lazy bum
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#511 [14:03] <Ice3ider> hey
#512 [14:03] <Ice3ider> all classic server down?
#513 [14:03] <Zemedelphos> Pretty much, yeah.
#514 [14:03] <Ice3ider> =(
#515 [14:03] <Ice3ider> i have my own irc
#516 [14:03] <Ice3ider> how can i set a op?
#517 [14:04] <Ice3ider> or a welcome msg ?
#518 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> "op username" in the server console
#519 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> or add it to your ops.txt file
#520 [14:04] <Ice3ider> ok
#521 [14:04] <Zemedelphos> And to set a MOTD, you need to do
#522 [14:04] <Zemedelphos> motd=(message) in your server.properties
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#524 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> there is no MOTD capability in vanilla beta
#525 [14:04] <Ice3ider> no how can i chance the irc -motd
#526 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> IRC motd?
#527 [14:05] <Ice3ider> and how can i set op's in the irc?
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#529 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#530 [14:05] <Ice3ider> and Irc OP's
#531 [14:05] <Zemedelphos> lol
#532 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> This isn't an IRC help channel.
#533 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Try #help
#534 [14:05] <Zemedelphos> XD
#535 [14:05] <Ice3ider> sry
#536 [14:06] <Ice3ider> im back :D
#537 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Every so often, I think about what this channel would be like if it were +m, and people were given +v each in turn to address their questions. But then, I realize: effort.
#538 [14:06] <Zemedelphos> lol
#539 [14:06] <Ice3ider> +v ?
#540 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Not hard to do.. set up a queue and a !trigger
#541 [14:07] <xales> Ice3ider: Go to #help for IRC help
#542 [14:07] <Ice3ider> ok thx
#543 [14:07] * Shadow386 -o xales
#543 [14:07] <Shadow386> lolololol
#544 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Fail
#545 [14:07] * genshou yawns
#545 [14:07] <Shadow386> i know the real command :P
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#547 [14:07] <Zemedelphos> Joking != fail
#548 [14:08] * DopeGhoti has set mode +o Shadow386, only not.
#548 [14:08] <Shadow386> :P
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#550 [14:08] <Nicolu> Hello channel
#551 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Hello, person.
#552 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
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#554 [14:09] <Nicolu> I was curious if this would be the place to get some information on loading up custom maps and such
#555 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#556 [14:09] <Nicolu> Sure, I found a neat little map called Plaintiods via youtube, downloaded the folder that SHOULD contain it .. And want to play on it
#557 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> link?
#558 [14:10] <Nicolu> To the download or the youtube video?
#559 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Either
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#561 [14:10] <Ed> hey there, anyone renting a server at Multiplay ?
#562 [14:10] <Nicolu> http://cid-f4a929c2025618e4.office.live.com/self.aspx/Minecraft%20Planetoid%20Generator%20-%20V1.75/WaterWorld.zip
#563 [14:10] <aetherian> wait... I thought planetoids was a generator, don't you have to run a har or something?
#564 [14:10] <Ed> I'm having issues running the Runecraft plugin
#565 [14:11] <aetherian> oh
#566 [14:11] <aetherian> disregard me
#567 [14:11] <Nicolu> Seems that yes, it is a generator.
#568 [14:11] <Ice3ider> hey can i make irc commands with the console?
#569 [14:11] <Nicolu> according the the zip file name anyways
#570 [14:11] <aetherian> ed: we don't provide support for third party things
#571 [14:11] <aetherian> as far as I know
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#573 [14:12] <Ed> ah well, too bad, been trying to make this plugin work for hours
#574 [14:13] <xales> Ice3ider: Look at the documentation for what you use to connect the IRC to minecraft server. We don't support such programs, sorry
#575 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Nicolu - looks like a standard world to me, do you want to load it into a single player, or MP server?
#576 [14:13] <Nicolu> I would prefer to play it in tandum with my BF, but I would settle for Single player atm. Lol.
#577 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> You can do either
#578 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Worlds are interchangeable
#579 [14:14] <Nicolu> Then, Multi player would be my choice.
#580 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a server set up and running?
#581 [14:14] <Nicolu> I do not, But I had the idea that I would need to
#582 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> It would be as simple as running the server, unzipping the contents of that zip to the server, and renaming the world1 folder to just "world"
#583 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> provided you have the server set up correctly
#584 [14:15] <Nicolu> Hm, When you put it that way, seems simple enough
#585 [14:16] <Nicolu> I guess I'm off to try my hand at setting up a server then.
#586 [14:17] <Nicolu> Thanks for the help - I may very well be back.
#587 [14:18] <aetherian> she'll be back when she needs help with the server
#588 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Of course
#589 [14:20] <aetherian> (cough portforwarding cough)
#590 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: hopefully it'll be for a LAN server and not needed (:
#591 [14:22] <aetherian> yeah right.
#592 [14:22] <aetherian> with our luck>
#593 [14:22] <aetherian> *?
#594 [14:23] <aetherian> I swear though, that this channel makes portforwarding sound harder than it really is.
#595 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> tell me about it
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#597 [14:24] <aetherian> unless it's different for routers, don't you just ipconfig->default gateway->open internet->print gateway->edit computer thingy->open the darn port->end?
#598 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Hardest thing I've had to do was to configure a doubly-NATted server, on a mac, using parallels
#599 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> over teamviewer
#600 [14:25] <aetherian> oh.
#601 [14:25] <aetherian> lolmac.
#602 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Was for a custom classic server
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#604 [14:26] <aetherian> oh man, that's a classic
#605 [14:26] <aetherian> *badumtisch*
#606 [14:27] * GreyVulpine kicks aetherian
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#607 [14:29] <aetherian> N to the O, just laugh it up.
#608 [14:29] <aetherian> *badum tisch*
#609 [14:29] <aetherian> (not that anyone got it)
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#611 [14:31] <aetherian> come now, someone must get it
#612 [14:32] <aetherian> ...or noyt
#613 [14:32] <aetherian> not
#614 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, I have a cold.
#615 [14:33] <aetherian> hmmph
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#618 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> "Dueling Banjoes ain't got nuthin' on Dueling Obscure References."
#619 [14:35] <buzzinator> hiya, I got a problem with minecraft
#620 [14:35] <aetherian> mine is hardly a reference, if so, then only to chemistry
#621 [14:35] <aetherian> yes, buzz?
#622 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: ah. I see it now.
#623 [14:35] <aetherian> dopeghoti: N2O is the formula for laughing gas
#624 [14:36] <aetherian> but you just saw it
#625 [14:36] <xales> aetherian: nou
#626 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: N2O NO2
#627 [14:37] <buzzinator> long story short, I get a black screen from time to time and nothing happens after that, I'm forced to force quit it and I lose the items I get but I still end up where I was before I was froze
#628 [14:37] <aetherian> o_O
#629 [14:37] <xales> buzzinator: System specs?
#630 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> this online or single-player?
#631 [14:37] <aetherian> low ram, ayum guessing
#632 [14:37] <buzzinator> single
#633 [14:38] <aetherian> brb
#634 [14:38] <aetherian> maybe bbl
#635 [14:38] <buzzinator> XP Home Ed., SP 2, 2.80 GHz, 2 GB ram
#636 [14:38] <buzzinator> SP 3*
#637 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> what version of Java?
#638 [14:38] <buzzinator> how do I check that
#639 [14:38] <xales> also, what GPU?
#640 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> buzzinator: open the Control Panel, open up the Java applet; it'll be in there.
#641 [14:40] <buzzinator> v. 6, update 23 (build 1.6.0_23-b05)
#642 [14:40] <buzzinator> GPU is nvidia something... lemme see if I can find it
#643 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> k, Java revision looks good
#644 [14:41] <buzzinator> you're gonna have to tell me how to find my GPU, sorry >.<
#645 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> start -> run -> "dxdiag"
#646 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> display tab
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#648 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Well, if you're sure it's NVIDIA; just go to nvidia.com and get the latest drivers (:
#649 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Morning, Acerill
#650 [14:42] <Acerill> Hello, this Minecraft chat?
#651 [14:42] <buzzinator> NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
#652 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> This is Minecraft Help, yes
#653 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> This is sparta^W#MineCraftHelp
#654 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> General Minecraft chatter is #minecraft
#655 [14:43] <Acerill> Im looking for someone to help me with something quickly.. I own Wright-Servers.com and im looking for a good tech support that knows just about everything to do with Minecraft, with that you will recieve a free minecraft server
#656 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I thought MC chatter would be #mcchatter (:
#657 [14:43] * GreyVulpine baps DopeGhoti
#657 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. weren't you here already, and recruited killspammer?
#658 [14:43] <Acerill> He didnt pass
#659 [14:43] <xales> buzzinator: That is a pretty old card, I'd guess the issue is related to the card being overloaded
#660 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> I see..'
#661 [14:44] <buzzinator> ohhh I see
#662 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Acerill: I'd be happy to help, but I'd prefer dollars to a server (:
#663 [14:44] <Acerill> I know absolutly nothing about Minecraft server side, and i got it setup before him
#664 [14:44] <Acerill> Not offering cash right now as theres not a lot of MC servers im hosting
#665 [14:45] <buzzinator> I guess I'll try updating and see what happens, if not it's time for an upgrade I suppose lol
#666 [14:45] <buzzinator> thanks :)
#667 [14:45] <aetherian> buzzinator: you're playing on fa-
#668 [14:45] <aetherian> ...
#669 [14:45] <aetherian> argh
#670 [14:45] <aetherian> I fail
#671 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> just get the brain/IRC interface so you can type as fast as you think.
#672 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Acerill - I'm sorry, I don't think there's really anybody here right now that'll take you up on your offer.
#673 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Acerill: I'd offer to assist, but in truth I've no experience with modding Minecraft, and most people seem to want some mod or another. The only mod I support now is the "Wait for the Mod API" mod.
#674 [14:47] <Acerill> im not doing any modding
#675 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> bukkit is sorta kinda working right now, but it requires a LOT of efforty
#676 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> bleh, effort*
#677 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> efforty effort is the worst kind of effort.
#678 [14:48] <Acerill> just map installations and troubleshooting.. i got every map up and installed in the control panel and only one that wont work is skyland or w/e its called
#679 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> I prefer the effortless kind
#680 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> skyland?
#681 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> This sounds classic-y
#682 [14:48] <Acerill> yes skyland.. would u like a link
#683 [14:48] <Acerill> its 14 thousand files
#684 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes please.
#685 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Just a question though, why do you offer pre-generated maps then?
#686 [14:49] <Acerill> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=38214
#687 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Wow, I remember that post. That is an OLD map
#688 [14:51] <Acerill> Cant seem to get it working on the servers
#689 [14:52] <Acerill> wow i just got it up
#690 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Must be #MineCraftHelp's magnetic collective personality
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#692 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Wow, it's _The_ Jon.
#693 [14:57] <thejon> indeed :)
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#697 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#698 [15:06] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (3:05p Jan 27 11) temp(23.9 F / -4.5 C, feels like 24 F / -4 C) cond(Light Snow) wind(SSW at 2.0 mph / 3.2 km/h) hu(89%) dewpnt(21 F / -6 C) bp(29.83 in / 1010.0 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 700 ft / 213 m) vis(0.8 miles / 1.2 kilometers) uv(1 out of 16)
#699 [15:06] <GreyBot> Today: Cloudy. A chance of light snow through noon...then snow. Accumulations 1 to 2 inches. Highs 25 to 29. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 100 percent.
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#701 [15:06] <pachuco> some one knows what: internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset means ?
#702 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> hmm, snow.
#703 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Means that the server is unreachable.
#704 [15:06] <pachuco> so that its down or something like that
#705 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Either the server isn't running at that address, or the server isn't set up properly.
#706 [15:07] <pachuco> oke thnks
#707 [15:07] <pachuco> ware is the snow falling ?
#708 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah, in Hell.
#709 [15:08] <pachuco> could be worse
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#712 [15:08] <xales> pachuco: You did buy it, right?
#713 [15:09] <pachuco> the game ? or the joke ?
#714 [15:09] <SkiingPenguins> haha
#715 [15:09] <xales> pachuco: The game
#716 [15:09] <pachuco> ya
#717 [15:09] <xales> before you came in here asking to play without buying it
#718 [15:09] <xales> what username did you use?
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#720 [15:09] <Frank> Hi guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm trying to connect to the Classic Multiplayer games and keep getting the error java.lang.NullPointerException. Anyone know what that's about?
#721 [15:10] <pachuco> captpietpiraat
#722 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> Frank: Classic seems to be rather broken right now, due to the server move.
#723 [15:10] <tommytrauma> hey ive been having some issues with mps
#724 [15:10] <Frank> Ah OK, thanks
#725 [15:10] <tommytrauma> whenever i gget on no matter what server my game quickly freezes
#726 [15:10] <tommytrauma> and crashes
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#729 [15:11] <xales> tommytrauma: Is there a crash report?
#730 [15:11] <tommytrauma> ya everytime
#731 [15:11] <xales> Paste it on http://pastebin.com/
#732 [15:11] <tommytrauma> then what
#733 [15:12] <xales> paste in here the link it sends you to
#734 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> then give xales the link?
#735 [15:13] * xales waits
#735 [15:15] <xales> tommytrauma: you still there?
#736 [15:15] <tommytrauma> yes
#737 [15:15] <tommytrauma> im seeing if it crashes again
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#739 [15:16] <Nicolu> I've return, anyone around by chance?
#740 [15:16] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps
#741 [15:16] <xales> Nope
#742 [15:16] <xales> nobody is here
#743 [15:16] <SkiingPenguins> where is he?
#744 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Over there ----->
#745 [15:17] <SkiingPenguins> :o
#746 [15:17] <Nicolu> Fabulous, I will just talk to this wall over here then.
#747 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> "Hi wall, make me a sammich"
#748 [15:17] <Nicolu> So, Mr. Wall, I've started setting up a server, Went through hell being a tard and couldn't figure out where to locate server.properties. THEN i got that figured out
#749 [15:18] <Nicolu> And now, Mr. Wall, I can't seem to figure out this Port forwarding opening thing.
#750 [15:18] <SkiingPenguins> neat
#751 [15:18] <SkiingPenguins> you not use computer often?
#752 [15:18] <Nicolu> And on top of it all, mr. Wall, the only program / help i can locate would be something that wishes to take all my monies.
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#754 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Ew
#755 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Let us take all your monies
#756 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Much more worth it
#757 [15:19] <dicky> hi, i've tried to set up a minecraft server under debian lenny i386, it's gonna start without problems, but if i connect is logs this: 21:09:11 /84.62.215.31 connected 21:09:16 Kicking /84.62.215.31: You need to log in! 21:09:16 /84.62.215.31 disconnected but i am logged in, what can is do?
#758 [15:19] <Nicolu> I have a shiney nickle with your name on it if you can fix this for me :)
#759 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> dicky - You're running a classic server
#760 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> and trying to connect with a beta client
#761 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> !server
#762 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Nicolu - Don't suppose you happen to have teamviewer?
#763 [15:20] <Nicolu> I havn't the foggest as to what that is.
#764 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> just google your router name and port forwarding
#765 [15:20] <Nicolu> I tried that. And.. it didn't work so well for me.
#766 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#767 [15:20] <SkiingPenguins> 'IF YOU WANT TO RUN A SERVER: Please make sure you have some background knowledge about server administration first!'
#768 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> !wiki teamviewer
#769 [15:21] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeamViewer
#770 [15:21] <GreyBot> TeamViewer is a computer software package for remote control, desktop sharing, and file transfer between computers. The software operates with the Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. It is possible to access a machine running TeamViewer with a web browser. While the main focus of the application is remote control of computers, collaboration and presentation features are included.
#771 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#772 [15:21] <Nicolu> It's more prettier with the nice colors in the Message up there.
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#774 [15:21] <tommytrauma> http://pastebin.com/FBy29TiK
#775 [15:21] <aetherian> lol!wiki
#776 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: compare CrossLoop, VNC?
#777 [15:21] <tommytrauma> thts the link xales
#778 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Same concept, never used crossloop though
#779 [15:22] <Armalitex> 10 hours total spent trying to open ports, still fail, fml =[
#780 [15:22] <dicky> GreyVulpine, okay, i see, is there some documentation about the betaserver? how i'am supposed to start it?
#781 [15:22] * SkiingPenguins uses VNC at school and it is very nice
#781 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> dicky - minecraft.net
#782 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> CrossLoop is basically VNC with a central proxy server so taht port forwarding is a nonissue
#783 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Click the download link
#784 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> don't need to port forward with teamviewer
#785 [15:22] * DopeGhoti nods
#785 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> sounds comparable.
#786 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> bottom of the page is the download for beta server and instructions on how to launch it
#787 [15:23] <Armalitex> teamviewer?
#788 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> In fact, you don't even need to install teamviewer
#789 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> You can run it straight from the installer exe
#790 [15:23] <SkiingPenguins> DopeGhoti my school uses TightVNC to watch our computers :P
#791 [15:23] <obi-wan> has kealper hopped on a any point recently?
#792 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> I like that, makes it easy to set up sessions
#793 [15:23] <Armalitex> oh please do tell
#794 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> !seen kealper
#795 [15:23] <GreyBot> I last saw kealper (Kealper@190.120.238.65) 16hrs 33mins 3secs ago, talking in #MineCraftHelp. They were saying: and set graphics from Fancy to Fast, and then set the render distance to your liking
#796 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> apparently 16 hours ago
#797 [15:24] <aetherian> wow
#798 [15:24] <tommytrauma> u there xales?
#799 [15:24] <obi-wan> thank you
#800 [15:24] <aetherian> that's weird for him
#801 [15:24] <Kealper> huh?
#802 [15:24] <aetherian> haha
#803 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, and he's here
#804 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#805 [15:24] <aetherian> not 16 hours
#806 [15:24] <obi-wan> sweet,
#807 [15:24] <aetherian> anymore
#808 [15:24] <obi-wan> Kealper it happened again
#809 [15:24] <aetherian> ono
#810 [15:24] <Kealper> what? O.o
#811 [15:24] <Kealper> wait..waaiiit.....
#812 [15:24] <Armalitex> so if port opening wont work, whats the other popular method to making servers?
#813 [15:25] <obi-wan> do you think you could hook me up with the new update?
#814 [15:25] <aetherian> I think we just woke up kealps
#815 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Armalitex - Port forwarding will work
#816 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> I haven't met a router that won't bend to my will just yet
#817 [15:25] <Kealper> new update? did i miss something while i was gone for 3 hours? lol
#818 [15:25] <Kealper> gimme a sec then
#819 [15:25] <aetherian> 3 hours?
#820 [15:25] <Armalitex> ii spent 10 hours on mine and ive done damn near everything
#821 [15:25] <obi-wan> i have been gone for a week and two days
#822 [15:25] <obi-wan> visiting family(bad story)
#823 [15:26] <obi-wan> sorry
#824 [15:26] <dicky> nice, seems to work GreyVulpine, thx
#825 [15:26] <Kealper> to pm!
#826 [15:26] <aetherian> oh cool, notch's mother turned 60
#827 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Armalitex - if you give me access to your computer, I could give it a once over.
#828 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> See if there's anything you missed
#829 [15:26] <xales> tommytrauma: its a graphics issue, it looks like...do you have anything else open while trying to run it? also, do you have any 'security' or 'firewall' programs running?
#830 [15:26] <obi-wan> ^(*.*)>
#831 [15:26] <Armalitex> and how would i do so?
#832 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#833 [15:27] <tommytrauma> i dont have security of fire wall i think
#834 [15:27] <tommytrauma> im running off a 2010 macbook pro
#835 [15:27] <tommytrauma> so the graphics chip is good
#836 [15:27] <xales> tommytrauma: Are you sure? You would have installed them seperatly and probably paid for them
#837 [15:28] <tommytrauma> then im positive i dont have security of firewall
#838 [15:28] <xales> tommytrauma: Also, have you installed any Minecraft mods or texture packs?
#839 [15:28] <tommytrauma> cause i never bought them
#840 [15:28] <tommytrauma> no i have no mods or texture packs
#841 [15:28] <xales> Close Minecraft, open Terminal, and run
#842 [15:28] <xales> rm -rf ~/Library/Application\ Support/.minecraft/bin
#843 [15:28] <Nicolu> One more question guys, If I've already gotten into my Router, and I'm on the page that *should* let me open the port up, Where do I find the information that needs to be input?
#844 [15:29] <tommytrauma> if i turn the graphics down wuld tht help
#845 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> it's port 25565-25565/TCP
#846 [15:29] <xales> tommytrauma: Probably not
#847 [15:29] <tommytrauma> ok
#848 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> for minecraft server
#849 [15:29] <Nicolu> And that should be what I need to open it then?
#850 [15:29] <Armalitex> ok grey whats your id?
#851 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Armalitex - You would give me your ID and password
#852 [15:29] <Stimpson> is there a gamma adjustment in game?
#853 [15:29] <xales> Stimpson: Nope, sorry
#854 [15:30] <Armalitex> 443 360 592 4297
#855 [15:30] <tommytrauma> wait how do i open a terminal
#856 [15:30] <xales> tommytrauma: Applications->Utilities->Terminal
#857 [15:30] <Nicolu> Grey - What would I need for the "to IP Address" Box?
#858 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Nicolu - You're running windows, correct?
#859 [15:30] <Nicolu> Yessir
#860 [15:31] <tommytrauma> then i paste what u wrote in the terminal
#861 [15:31] <Stimpson> is there an edge of the world? I'm runnning south just trying to find it but its been a while
#862 [15:31] <xales> tommytrauma: yes
#863 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> What windows?
#864 [15:31] <Nicolu> Window 7
#865 [15:31] <tommytrauma> ok its in the terminal
#866 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> start -> type in search bar: cmd
#867 [15:31] <xales> Stimpson: In Beta, the world keeps generating, for a very long time, it eventually stops working though
#868 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> then, at the command prompt, type in ipconfig
#869 [15:31] <xales> tommytrauma: hit enter
#870 [15:31] <tommytrauma> i hit enter and nothing happens
#871 [15:31] <xales> it shouldn't say anything
#872 [15:31] <xales> try running Minecraft again
#873 [15:32] <Nicolu> Okay
#874 [15:32] <tommytrauma> it ah ok
#875 [15:32] <tommytrauma> ill tell you if it crashes again
#876 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Nicolu - What's the ipv4 address there
#877 [15:33] <Nicolu> Ah ha, the last three got it
#878 [15:34] <Nicolu> So I get that all stuck in there and enable it, anything else I need to do to it?
#879 [15:34] <xales> Nicolu: What are you putting in?
#880 [15:35] <Stimpson> as a new player who is hosting a server for me and my friends. Are there any mods you would recomend as a must check out for cool or fun factor?
#881 [15:35] <Nicolu> I believe I've got it working
#882 [15:35] <ssen> xales, if nothing happens with ipconfig have him try ifconfig eth0
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#884 [15:37] <jarred> hey, i have ubuntu 10.10, and when i try to log in with the minecraft client i just get a blackscreen
#885 [15:37] <jarred> ideas?
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#887 [15:38] <Kealper> jarred: ati graphics card?
#888 [15:38] <jarred> nope,
#889 [15:38] <Kealper> O.o
#890 [15:38] <jarred> stock card on an intel motherbaord
#891 [15:38] <jarred> could be ati i guess
#892 [15:38] <jarred> idk
#893 [15:38] <Kealper> so it's probably an intel gfx chip then
#894 [15:38] <jarred> most likly
#895 [15:38] <Kealper> how old is it?
#896 [15:38] <jarred> it worked fine, then i reinstalled ubuntu, and now it doesnt
#897 [15:39] <jarred> and its a sony vaio netbook, less then a year old
#898 [15:39] <Kealper> hmm, you might have to get updated graphics drivers then
#899 [15:40] <jarred> it worked before tho with the default ubuntu install
#900 [15:40] <jarred> then last night i fucked up and ended up re-installing ubuntu
#901 [15:41] <tommytrauma> it did it again xales
#902 [15:43] <xales> tommytrauma: No idea then, you could try posting it on the forum. =\
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#904 [15:43] <tommytrauma> ok
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#906 [15:45] <jarred> is using openJDK not sun java
#907 [15:45] <jarred> does that matter?
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#909 [15:45] <xales> jarred: Try with sun
#910 [15:46] <zz> When I started playing (around a week ago) everything worked fine but for some reason as of about 2 days ago I can no longer get ore when I dig rocks. (yes, I'm using the right axe.) suggestions?
#911 [15:46] <jarred> how do i install that? whats the name of the package?
#912 [15:47] <Mole116> Hi. I can't get on any servers in MineCraft Classic.... It says "500 Servlet Exception" "java.lang.NullPointerException"
#913 [15:47] <Mole116> I really don't know what that means.. How can I fix it?
#914 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> Mole116: Classic is more or less broken thanks to the server migration.
#915 [15:47] <aetherian> shame, really
#916 [15:47] <aetherian> classic can be quite fun
#917 [15:47] <Mole116> Hmm, do you know when it will be working?
#918 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I imaging the effect was unintended.
#919 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> I also imagine this.
#920 [15:48] <aetherian> so uh
#921 [15:48] <aetherian> where's the image
#922 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Mole116: Hard to say, with Notch being on vacation
#923 [15:48] <aetherian> if you were imaging it
#924 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: in my imagination.
#925 [15:48] <Mole116> Alright. Thank you!
#926 [15:48] <aetherian> I see
#927 [15:48] <Mole116> :-)
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#929 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> Mole116: with any luck, beta will nevermind you just left
#930 [15:49] <zz> anybody? lol
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#932 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> zz: There is no right axe. Try using a pick instead?
#933 [15:50] <Hanul> Minecraft accepts gmail right?
#934 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> Hanul: as an email address associated with an account? yes.
#935 [15:51] <Hanul> I have a problem with logging into minecraft and my gmail account isn't getting any of the mail.
#936 [15:51] <xales> Hanul: What is the problem?
#937 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> what sort of problem are you having?
#938 [15:52] <Hanul> Say's I have the wrong password
#939 [15:52] <Hanul> but the password's been saved on my computer
#940 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Your password wasn't 'password' was it?
#941 [15:52] <Hanul> no
#942 [15:52] <Hanul> and the recover lost password says my email doesn't exist
#943 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> '12345'?
#944 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> okay, I'll stop
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#946 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Um, have you tried, even though it's stored on your computer, clearing out and reentering your account name and password?
#947 [15:54] <Hanul> yeah, says it's no good
#948 [15:54] <Hanul> i hven't played minecraft in a few months though, and i wanted to get back in to playing it
#949 [15:54] <Hanul> though i don't think that would be a reason why
#950 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Have you checked your gmail spambox?
#951 [15:54] <Hanul> yeah
#952 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> What is your account name?
#953 [15:54] <Hanul> Hanul14
#954 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> not the email address; the Minecraft account.
#955 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> !paid Hanul14
#956 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> (there were fourteen other Hanuls? Wow.)
#957 [15:55] <Hanul> i have no idea, i like 14, lol
#958 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> You should still have the payment confirmation email from PayPal, yes?
#959 [15:56] <Hanul> i have the paypal invoice on my paypal
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#961 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> I would email daniel@mojang.com with your transaciton confirmation number, email address, and account name and explain the situation
#962 [15:56] <Hanul> ok, thanks
#963 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> It is possible someone hijacked the account and changed the associated email address
#964 [15:57] <Hanul> I don't know who would
#965 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> Nor do I, but I cannot think of any other reasonable explanaiton for your problem.
#966 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> People have created a brute force minecraft account breaker, used it on account names found on the forums
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#968 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> And since minecraft doesn't enforce a limit on failed logins...
#969 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Good thing I don't use the same password on the forums that I do for the game.
#970 [16:00] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Yeah, I was about to say that I'd bet that bruteforcing a minecraft pass is probably entirely feasible
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#972 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> It's less likely to work if your password has characters like õ or Σ in it.
#973 [16:04] <aetherian> heh
#974 [16:04] <aetherian> that sounded funny eout of context
#975 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Silly script kiddies, still using CP437, and only some of it at that.
#976 [16:06] <aetherian> CP437?
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#979 [16:06] <Hanul> Well, I can still log in to the forums, never posted my user id, username is a tad bit different from my username so I dunno how it got taken. can you change your username email?
#980 [16:07] <aetherian> !ping
#981 [16:07] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.882 Seconds.
#982 [16:07] <aetherian> weird
#983 [16:08] <aetherian> one more time
#984 [16:08] <aetherian> !ping
#985 [16:08] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.381 Seconds.
#986 [16:08] <aetherian> there, fixed it
#987 [16:08] <Hanul> !ping
#988 [16:08] <GreyBot> Hanul Your Ping time was 0.411 Seconds.
#989 [16:09] <Hanul> Ok, well thank you all for your help.
#990 [16:09] <ftw> !ping
#991 [16:10] <ftw> sigh
#992 [16:10] <Armalitex> vulpine try logging on see if it works now
#993 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Alright
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#995 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I still got nothing
#996 [16:11] <Armalitex> hmm =/
#997 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> xales or DopeGhoti, you want a crack at this?
#998 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> eh?
#999 [16:12] <xales> ?
#1000 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> what's up?
#1001 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Armalitex is doubly-natted, had mcafee and avg installed but is removed now
#1002 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> can't connect from the outside, but locally he can
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#1004 [16:12] <Depiction> Hi
#1005 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> Can he from between NATs?
#1006 [16:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: Try connecting via the inner router's IP
#1007 [16:12] <xales> Hello Depiction
#1008 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> haven't tried, could either of you TV him? I gotta head out for a bit
#1009 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> can't at work and text is slacky enough :)
#1010 [16:13] <Depiction> So, i am trying to make a beta server on Debian server, but i can't make it work, someone who can help? :p
#1011 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> s/ at/, at/
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#1013 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: could you be more specific with the trouble you're having?
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#1015 [16:14] <Depiction> Well, i don't actually know where to put the server file in
#1016 [16:14] <Depiction> I tried to follow the tutorial on the wiki, but the console says he can't find the file
#1017 [16:14] <Depiction> -bash: /etc/init.d/minecraft: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
#1018 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: looks like you edited the file in Windows before putting it on the Linux machine
#1019 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> that's what all those ^Ms are.
#1020 [16:15] <Depiction> Ah
#1021 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> run this command:
#1022 [16:15] <Depiction> Yes, i edited it witch notepad first
#1023 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> sed -i 's/^V^M/\n/' /etc/init.d/minecraft (but rather then typing ^ V and ^ M, press ctrl-V and ctrl-M)
#1024 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> you will not see the ^V appear; this is expected.
#1025 [16:18] <Armalitex> so how can i connect to my server but others cannot?
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#1029 [16:21] <Depiction> Can't i just copy your line from the chat, Dope?
#1030 [16:22] <Depiction> Hmm, doesn't work
#1031 [16:22] <Depiction> nodomain:~# sed -i 's/^V^M/\n/' /etc/init.d/minecraft
#1032 [16:22] <Depiction> nodomain:~# /etc/init.d/minecraft start
#1033 [16:22] <Depiction> -bash: /etc/init.d/minecraft: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
#1034 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: no, you cannot, because you're not typing caret-V, you're typing ctrl-V
#1035 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> that's why I have you specific instructions.
#1036 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> er, gave.
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#1039 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> acky: looking for syny?
#1040 [16:26] <acky> DopeGhoti, sorry what?
#1041 [16:26] <Depiction> But i do just have to type the ' , Dope?
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#1043 [16:27] <Depiction> Hmm, when i pressed ctrl-M the console started a new line
#1044 [16:28] <Armalitex> can anyone try to log in to my server to see if its up for others?
#1045 [16:28] <Armalitex> 74.60.16.246:25565
#1046 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> acky: Nerd humor. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol#Connection_establishment
#1047 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: yes.
#1048 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> and that's why you needed to press ctrl-V first
#1049 [16:29] <acky> DopeGhoti, oh lol
#1050 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> !check 74.60.16.246
#1051 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: ctrl-V tells the command line "don't parse the next character, I mean it literally"
#1052 [16:30] <Armalitex> im on it but how do i get others in =/
#1053 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: so ^V^M means "the character produced by ctrl-M" rather than just sending a newline to the shell.
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#1055 [16:30] <Depiction> Yes, i did that right now
#1056 [16:30] <Agro> Hello
#1057 [16:30] <Depiction> But now i get
#1058 [16:30] <Depiction> nodomain:~# sed -i 's/^V^M\/n/' /etc/init.d/minecraft
#1059 [16:30] <Depiction> sed: -e expression #1, char 8: unterminated `s' command
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#1061 [16:31] <Agro> I heard that if I buy the beta now that I am not guranteed future updates?
#1062 [16:31] <aetherian> !ping
#1063 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: compare:
#1064 [16:31] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 1.963 Seconds.
#1065 [16:31] <acky> Armalitex i don't think it's working
#1066 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> sed -i 's/^V^M/\n/' /etc/init.d/minecraft
#1067 [16:31] <Agro> guys
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#1069 [16:31] <Agro> I just bought minecraft and I was just told im not guranteed future updates. Is this a fact?
#1070 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> Agro: you get all updates to final release, plus bug fixes, but not future expansions
#1071 [16:31] <Agro> How is that fair?
#1072 [16:32] <acky> i have a feeling notch isn't going to finish the game
#1073 [16:32] <Agro> alpha buyers paid less, and yet the do, yet when I pay more I dont?
#1074 [16:32] <Agro> how does that even work
#1075 [16:33] <Depiction> Dope, so what's the difference?
#1076 [16:33] <Steve> Hi
#1077 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> hi, Steve
#1078 [16:33] <Depiction> Hi Steve
#1079 [16:33] <Steve> I was in earlier today asking about a 500 error on the Minecraft Classic site
#1080 [16:33] <Steve> I'm seeing people in servers, so I'm wondering why I can't access them
#1081 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: look at the slashes.
#1082 [16:34] <Steve> 500 Servlet Exception
#1083 [16:34] <Steve> [ show] java.lang.NullPointerException
#1084 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> Steve: Classic is rather broken right now thanks to the server updates.
#1085 [16:34] <Steve> oh
#1086 [16:34] <Steve> Well, that sucks lol
#1087 [16:34] <Depiction> Oh haha
#1088 [16:35] <Steve> How are people being able to access the servers if its broken?
#1089 [16:35] <Depiction> Hmm, it says unknown host when i try to connect :/
#1090 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> Steve: I'm not exactly certain what's broken; it could be that the problem is intermittent.
#1091 [16:35] <Steve> alright then.
#1092 [16:36] <Steve> thanks for your help.
#1093 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Steve: anytime
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#1095 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: the sed command doesn't try to establish any network connections. What are you doing?
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#1097 [16:37] <Depiction> DopeGhoti; Yes i know, but when i use the ip with the port in the game
#1098 [16:37] <Depiction> He says unknown host
#1099 [16:37] <Depiction> But i am certain the ip is right
#1100 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> Are you using the default port?
#1101 [16:38] <Depiction> 184.154.56.87:25565
#1102 [16:38] <Depiction> Yes i am
#1103 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> try just using the IP address.
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#1105 [16:39] <edwardthefma> help
#1106 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> edwardthefma: Don't dig straight up or down.
#1107 [16:39] <the_late_man> heh
#1108 [16:40] <acky> how do you dig straight up
#1109 [16:40] <the_late_man> good advice
#1110 [16:40] <Depiction> Still unknown host
#1111 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> acky: look up, and dig?
#1112 [16:40] <acky> more than a few blocks :(
#1113 [16:40] <edwardthefma> 500 Servlet Exception :(
#1114 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> edwardthefma: classic?
#1115 [16:40] <the_late_man> edward: classic?
#1116 [16:40] <edwardthefma> with clasic
#1117 [16:40] <the_late_man> dernit
#1118 [16:40] <the_late_man> yeah
#1119 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#1120 [16:40] <the_late_man> classy broken
#1121 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> My understanding is that Classic is rather broken.
#1122 [16:40] <the_late_man> school's out
#1123 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> It is
#1124 [16:40] <the_late_man> class is broke
#1125 [16:41] <Depiction> Indeed
#1126 [16:41] <Armalitex> hmmm, is it true you have to disable your firewall to host?
#1127 [16:41] <Depiction> No
#1128 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Disabling the firewall can be a test, but if you set it up correctly, no.
#1129 [16:42] <acky> does anyone remember that iOS minecraft thing? what was with that?
#1130 [16:42] <Depiction> I hosted a classic and beta on my computer, without disabling my firewall
#1131 [16:42] <edwardthefma> what about using no ip for dynamic ip adresses
#1132 [16:42] <edwardthefma> :)
#1133 [16:42] <Armalitex> hmm well can anyone assist with getting other people to my server
#1134 [16:42] <Depiction> But DopeGhoti; without the port he stil gives the errors
#1135 [16:42] <aetherian> I know what I want...
#1136 [16:43] <aetherian> a shirt that says "/mode #earth +b *!*@*"
#1137 [16:43] <Armalitex> vulpine got me into my server so that parts taken care of
#1138 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> Depiction: what's the IP again?
#1139 [16:43] <Depiction> 184.154.56.87
#1140 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> !check 184.154.56.87
#1141 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Armalitex - Alright, gimme another shot at your computer. PM me the ID and password this time
#1142 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> The port is not forwarded or the server is not running.
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#1144 [16:44] <Depiction> I have not forwarded a port
#1145 [16:44] <Depiction> And i got no idea how i should do
#1146 [16:44] <aetherian> uh oh
#1147 [16:47] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#1148 [16:49] <Depiction> Yes, i have done it on my own router
#1149 [16:49] <Depiction> But i rented the server somewhere
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#1152 [16:51] <xales> Depiction: If you rented the server, you don't need to forward a port, you just need to make sure it is allowed through any firewall that might be running on the server
#1153 [16:53] <Depiction> Ah, the jar is not running
#1154 [16:53] <Depiction> and when i try to run it
#1155 [16:53] <Depiction> It says; -bash: /etc/init.d/minecraft: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
#1156 [16:53] <Depiction> Again
#1157 [16:55] <edwardthefma> so how long do you think it will take be for classic is fixed
#1158 [16:56] <Kealper> Depiction: are you pressing ctrl+M or actually typing ^M?
#1159 [16:56] <Kealper> edwardthefma: no idea :/
#1160 [16:56] <Depiction> Ctrl+M
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#1162 [16:57] <Kealper> hmm...weird
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#1164 [16:57] <Kealper> no idea then....i'm not the linux guru around here :/
#1165 [16:57] <Valdred> I am currently running a server on a VPS using puTTY
#1166 [16:58] <Valdred> I am experiencing that my commands in the console have no effect
#1167 [16:58] <Valdred> I try kick, give list
#1168 [16:58] <Valdred> nothing happens
#1169 [16:58] <Valdred> no error
#1170 [16:58] <Kealper> uhh...are you running through screen?
#1171 [16:58] <Valdred> it is just echoed and I am sent to a new line
#1172 [16:58] <Valdred> yeah
#1173 [16:59] <Kealper> try both ctrl+q and ctrl+a and then q
#1174 [16:59] <Valdred> nothing seem to happen
#1175 [17:00] <Kealper> hmm....what about ctrl+a and then c
#1176 [17:00] <Kealper> does that open a new terminal session?
#1177 [17:00] <Valdred> yeah
#1178 [17:00] <Kealper> very weird
#1179 [17:01] <Kealper> does it do this all the time or is it just this one time? the minecraft server might have just messed up
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#1181 [17:01] <Valdred> just this time
#1182 [17:01] <Valdred> how do I end that terminal session and go back?
#1183 [17:02] <Kealper> ctrl+a K (note the capital k)
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#1185 [17:02] <Kealper> it will ask if you want to kill that window, press y
#1186 [17:02] <Valdred> so I hold shift?
#1187 [17:02] <Kealper> yeah
#1188 [17:02] <Kealper> so it would be ctrl+a and then shift+k
#1189 [17:02] <Valdred> ok
#1190 [17:03] <Valdred> So I restart the server then
#1191 [17:03] <Valdred> stop doesn't work :/
#1192 [17:03] <Kealper> O.o
#1193 [17:03] <Valdred> no shock though
#1194 [17:03] <Valdred> same thing as with the other commands
#1195 [17:04] <Kealper> then i really don't know....sounds like that whole machine needs a restart then
#1196 [17:04] <Kealper> but i'm not the greatest at linux, so i can't help much beyond that :/
#1197 [17:04] <Valdred> hmm...
#1198 [17:04] <Valdred> I'll try a bit on my own
#1199 [17:05] <mbentley> whoo passing cert exams for money = awesome :D
#1200 [17:05] <Kealper> :O
#1201 [17:05] * Kealper is jealous lol
#1201 [17:06] <mbentley> they want us to take at least 2 certs a year and they pay for em and we get bonus $$ too :D
#1202 [17:06] <mbentley> oh darn
#1203 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Okay, need some help.
#1204 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Got this guy on Teamviewer, doubly-natted
#1205 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> local ip of 192.168.1.15
#1206 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> netgear router of 1.1
#1207 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> port forwarded correctly, router's got an IP of 192.168.15.1 from his modem
#1208 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> er
#1209 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> 15.110
#1210 [17:10] <mbentley> which router?
#1211 [17:10] <mbentley> oh wait, nevermind
#1212 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> I can connect via 127.0.0.1
#1213 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Um
#1214 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Clear Modem?
#1215 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Some WiMax thing
#1216 [17:11] <mbentley> wimax? it's not double nat
#1217 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> It is doubly natted
#1218 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> His router's pulling 15.110 from his modem
#1219 [17:11] <mbentley> they actually share public ip addresses among customerers
#1220 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> His modem has a public IP address
#1221 [17:12] <mbentley> oh hmm
#1222 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> 74.60.16.246
#1223 [17:12] <mbentley> so there is actually a modem/router all in one device and another router, for sure?
#1224 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> yes
#1225 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm positive about that
#1226 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Clear modem series-G, WiXB-175
#1227 [17:14] <mbentley> so http://pastebin.com/BSC6HRMW
#1228 [17:14] <Lexshu> hey greyvulpine! thanks for te help earlier today, me and my 2 mates have been playing it since afternoon :D
#1229 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Great
#1230 [17:15] <Lexshu> really fun to play with friends on priv serv
#1231 [17:15] <mbentley> need to port forward 25565 on the 1st router to 192.168.15.110, then port forward 25565 on the 2nd to 192.168.1.15
#1232 [17:15] <Lexshu> the game has such great gameplay, u can spend many hours on everything
#1233 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Yup, I got that set up mbentley
#1234 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> and sorry, it was 1.5, not 1.15 for the local address
#1235 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> i can connect via 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.5 just fine
#1236 [17:16] <mbentley> pretty much same difference
#1237 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Just not the public address
#1238 [17:17] <mbentley> checked for crappy firewall products?
#1239 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> There is a "firewall" option in the modem/router, and that's disabled.
#1240 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> All uninstalled.
#1241 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Was running mcafee and avg
#1242 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> windows firewall is also down
#1243 [17:17] <mbentley> they have another pc on their lan to test from?
#1244 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Well, if he can connect from 192.168.1.5, that pretty much says it's not his computer or netgear router (I think)
#1245 [17:19] <mbentley> connecting from the lan ip won't guarantee the netgear router is fine
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#1248 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> netgear's pretty simple, there is no convoluted port forwarding to screw up on there
#1249 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> I'm not too sure on the clear Wimax modem though
#1250 [17:20] <mbentley> yeah, should be basic
#1251 [17:21] <mbentley> the wimax modem, who knows
#1252 [17:21] <mbentley> or who knows if they are blocking other ports
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#1254 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Can't seem to find a manual online for that thing
#1255 [17:22] <mbentley> would be a huge dick move if they did
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#1257 [17:24] <mbentley> tried to leave the firewall on the wimax router enabled and just do the port forwarding?
#1258 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, did nothing
#1259 [17:24] <mbentley> assuming you can find port forwarding on that thing
#1260 [17:24] <mbentley> messed up setup...
#1261 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding was straight forward actually
#1262 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> I just have no idea what "enable firewall" does
#1263 [17:26] <mbentley> good question...
#1264 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> I found a simiar manual online, tells me nothing on what the "firewall" does
#1265 [17:29] <mbentley> well it sounds like you have everthing set up properly
#1266 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> That's what I think
#1267 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> But apparently not
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#1269 [17:32] <mbentley> i'd try to search around for more stuff but i have to go to bowling
#1270 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> What's max port on TCP/IP?
#1271 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> 65535?
#1272 [17:32] <mbentley> sounds right
#1273 [17:32] <feenyx> it is
#1274 [17:35] <aetherian> !ping
#1275 [17:35] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.981 Seconds.
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#1277 [17:36] <jakeanator14> hey whats rong with classic srvers
#1278 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> jakeanator14 - It's currently down
#1279 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> freakin modem won't let me port forward 1-65535, says some balony about reserved ports
#1280 [17:37] <feenyx> alot of ports below 1024 do stuff
#1281 [17:37] <feenyx> do 5000-65535
#1282 [17:38] <feenyx> it might not complain
#1283 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Well, he's gotta run off for now, back later
#1284 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> I've put the modem on DMZ, and *tried* to do port forwarding as well, still wouldn't let an outside connection in
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#1286 [17:39] <Water> Guys
#1287 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> It looks more and more like the modem's a handful
#1288 [17:39] <feenyx> the modem shouldn't be in DMZ, the lan IP of the server should?
#1289 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> That's what I meant to say
#1290 [17:39] <feenyx> alright
#1291 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> The modem has the router's IP in DMZ
#1292 [17:39] <feenyx> windows firewall?
#1293 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Is off
#1294 [17:39] <Water> can someone help me, yesterday was my first time playing minecraft on multiplayer and I cant connect to that same server i was on last night, it says something like connection refused: connect
#1295 [17:39] <feenyx> any other security apps?
#1296 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope, all uninstalled
#1297 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> I checked, and double checked the task manager
#1298 [17:40] <feenyx> try running it on a different comp in the same network?
#1299 [17:40] <xales> Water: is that server running?
#1300 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Nothing else is running
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#1302 [17:40] <Water> Idk how to check can i give u the ip to it?
#1303 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1304 [17:40] <feenyx> it's what I'd do
#1305 [17:40] <Water> this is the ip to it, idk if its running can you check for me caretown.freebsdgirl.org
#1306 [17:40] <jakeanator14> do use know when servers will be up
#1307 [17:40] <feenyx> it'll tell you if it's the router or the computer that's the problem
#1308 [17:41] <feenyx> jakeanator14: not, but it'll probably be announced
#1309 [17:41] <xales> !check caretown.freebsdgirl.org
#1310 [17:41] <Water> wait are all the servers down?
#1311 [17:41] <Water> !check caretown.freebsdgirl.org
#1312 [17:41] <spdorsey> question about starting a new server. It's been a while since I've done this. I'm installing Bukkit. So far, it starts up just fine. But when I try to install WorldEdit, the instructions tell me to "Give yourself the /worldedit permission". Where do I do this?
#1313 [17:41] <xales> Water: Classic servers don't work
#1314 [17:41] <Water> its not classic
#1315 [17:41] <Water> its alpha
#1316 [17:41] <xales> Water: And that server isn't running
#1317 [17:41] <jakeanator14> i know it sucks
#1318 [17:41] <Water> xales what does that mean?
#1319 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> spdorsey - ask in #bukkit
#1320 [17:41] <xales> spdorsey: We don't support mods/third party programs, try #bukkit
#1321 [17:41] <feenyx> spdorsey: you probably need to put your account name in a properties file somewhere. Try #bukkit
#1322 [17:41] <Water> that server was like really big with a good community o.o will it be down forever?
#1323 [17:41] <jakeanator14> :O
#1324 [17:41] <xales> Water: It means the people who run the server don't have it online
#1325 [17:42] <spdorsey> ok. I was under the impression that #bukkit is only for devs, not support :(
#1326 [17:42] <xales> Water: I don't know, I don't run it
#1327 [17:42] <jakeanator14> hey how do i allow my firwall to open port 25565
#1328 [17:42] <spdorsey> thanks
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#1330 [17:42] <feenyx> jakeanator14: you google it :)
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#1332 [17:43] <jakeanator14> k
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#1335 [17:45] <Water> can someone tell me how to connect to this irc ----- IRC relay at irc.hardchats.com #meinkraft ----
#1336 [17:45] <feenyx> ./server irc.hardchats.com
#1337 [17:45] <feenyx> or /connect irc.hardchats.com
#1338 [17:45] <feenyx> depending on client
#1339 [17:45] <feenyx> then just /join meinkraft
#1340 [17:46] <Water> none of those worked?
#1341 [17:46] <feenyx> oh, you're using mibbit
#1342 [17:46] <feenyx> download a proper client
#1343 [17:46] <Water> yeah what could i use?
#1344 [17:46] <Water> link pls
#1345 [17:46] <feenyx> windows?
#1346 [17:46] <Water> windows 7 yes
#1347 [17:46] <feenyx> mIRC
#1348 [17:46] <Water> googel that?
#1349 [17:46] * GreyVulpine also recommends hydraIRC
#1349 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> quick and easy, and isn't nagware
#1350 [17:47] <feenyx> Water: how about www.mirc.com - have some creativity
#1351 [17:47] <feenyx> or hydrairc, indeed
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#1353 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> xchat, irssi, BitchX. All good clients.
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#1355 [17:51] <IPUNKBUST> why cant i join any servers for free multiplayer?
#1356 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> It's down
#1357 [17:51] <IPUNKBUST> o
#1358 [17:52] <IPUNKBUST> when will it be up?
#1359 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> We have no ETA on that IPUNKBUST
#1360 [17:52] <IPUNKBUST> ETA?
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#1362 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> More accuractely, ETR.
#1363 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> (Estimated time of recovery)
#1364 [17:53] <IPUNKBUST> o
#1365 [17:55] <edwardthefma> ./server irc.hardchats.com
#1366 [17:55] <edwardthefma> lol
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#1368 [17:56] <psypc2> hi i have a big problem
#1369 [17:56] <psypc2> so i tried to buy minecraft as a gift for a friend
#1370 [17:56] <psypc2> and by the looks of it
#1371 [17:56] <psypc2> it has been added to my account
#1372 [17:56] <psypc2> not his
#1373 [17:56] <edwardthefma> java.lang.NullPointerException
#1374 [17:57] <psypc2> can this be solved some how?
#1375 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> psypc2 - What do you mean?
#1376 [17:57] <lemon-rev> psypc2, did you recive a gift code
#1377 [17:57] <psypc2> i don't think so
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#1379 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Can you log into your account on minecraft.net, and go to your profile page
#1380 [17:57] <psypc2> yes
#1381 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> See if a gift code shows up there
#1382 [17:58] <psypc2> i can't see
#1383 [17:58] <psypc2> any gift code
#1384 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> When did you place the order?
#1385 [17:59] <psypc2> about 3 minutes ago
#1386 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> I'd wait at least a few hours before checking
#1387 [17:59] <xales> Did you buy a gift code, or normal game?
#1388 [17:59] <psypc2> i clicked on gift code
#1389 [17:59] <psypc2> option
#1390 [17:59] <xales> You must wait until you recieve the code then
#1391 [18:00] <lemon-rev> psypc2 you should recive your code or the code for your friend in your email
#1392 [18:00] <psypc2> when i enter http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#1393 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes the email doesn't get sent, but the gift code shows up in your profile when it's done
#1394 [18:00] <psypc2> it states i already own the game
#1395 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that link is for your friend to use, when you give him the gift code
#1396 [18:00] * edwardthefma has a addiction that needs to be filled
#1396 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> You obviously have already bought the game
#1397 [18:01] <edwardthefma> admins plz fix it
#1398 [18:01] <psypc2> ok so now all i have to do is to recieve the gift code
#1399 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes psypc2
#1400 [18:01] <psypc2> and then give it to my friend
#1401 [18:01] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1402 [18:02] <Pirate-Jake> Hey folks
#1403 [18:02] <psypc2> ok thank you for helping me
#1404 [18:02] <psypc2> if the code doesn't turn up by tomotow i will return here
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#1406 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1407 [18:03] <psypc2> see ya guys :)
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#1409 [18:03] <Pirate-Jake> I have a question, Which is the best block to use for Red?
#1410 [18:03] <xales> Red wool
#1411 [18:03] <Pirate-Jake> I am building a hospital and i was unsure what to do
#1412 [18:03] <Pirate-Jake> Okay cool
#1413 [18:03] <Pirate-Jake> Will redwool support sand?
#1414 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1415 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> god-damn im addicted to minecraft
#1416 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> i got it earlier today, And im mesmerised
#1417 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to the club
#1418 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> hehe ;3
#1419 [18:04] <xales> All blocks support sand
#1420 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> Score.
#1421 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> okay
#1422 [18:04] <xales> cept liquids
#1423 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> but yeah
#1424 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> i figured, i kept dying
#1425 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> and the starting area was so bland
#1426 [18:04] <Pirate-Jake> So im building a Hospital near it
#1427 [18:05] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/archive/2/28/20110123200009!Beta_color_spectrum.png
#1428 [18:05] <xales> ^wool colors
#1429 [18:06] <Pirate-Jake> Sweet
#1430 [18:06] <Pirate-Jake> hang on
#1431 [18:06] <Pirate-Jake> going in game, to mix some herbs
#1432 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> "This has been another episode of Out-Of-Context Theatre"
#1433 [18:09] <Pirate-Jake> LOL
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#1436 [18:13] <Darxius> Could someone answer a quick question?
#1437 [18:13] <lemon-rev> well try
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#1439 [18:14] <Darxius> I just bought minecraft and Id like to find the mode where you have unlimited blocks and stuff to build. like all the videos on youtube lol. any ideas?
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#1441 [18:14] <lemon-rev> yea download the classic version
#1442 [18:14] <lemon-rev> lol
#1443 [18:14] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> hello
#1444 [18:14] <Darxius> but can that also be run as a server? like that game mode?
#1445 [18:14] <lemon-rev> and btw i think its broke atm
#1446 [18:14] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> i need help :/
#1447 [18:15] <lemon-rev> not eniterly sure, i havent done so ,
#1448 [18:15] <lemon-rev> keviin whats your prob ?
#1449 [18:15] <Darxius> alright thanks. I think ive got it
#1450 [18:15] <Darxius> cheers
#1451 [18:15] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> ok i got a long story
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#1453 [18:15] <lemon-rev> just tell us the main bit
#1454 [18:15] <lemon-rev> lol please
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#1456 [18:16] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> OK back in alpha i bought 2 gift codes and i was charged and i never got a email with the codes, i contacted notch and others through email but no responce
#1457 [18:16] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> iv sent like 5 emails to alot of people
#1458 [18:17] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> any ideas?
#1459 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> oO_KeViiN_Oo: login to minecraft.net, click 'profile'
#1460 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> you should see the codes there
#1461 [18:17] <lemon-rev> what you mean to a lot of people, only the game makers can acaully help you with that, are you sure your email's didnt get deleted by your email or was put in trash
#1462 [18:17] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> oh rly?
#1463 [18:17] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> im stupid
#1464 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> omg i love u guys
#1465 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> <3
#1466 [18:18] <lemon-rev> lol
#1467 [18:18] <lemon-rev> hahahhahah
#1468 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> ( no homo )
#1469 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#1470 [18:18] <lemon-rev> yup
#1471 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> ?!?!?!?!
#1472 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> whats the paypal?
#1473 [18:18] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> :D
#1474 [18:19] <lemon-rev> its all good, we joke i think dopeghoti is lol
#1475 [18:19] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> thanks so much
#1476 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> I kid, not that I'd argue with the money.
#1477 [18:20] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> i would pay but
#1478 [18:20] <oO_KeViiN_Oo> c ya!
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#1480 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> darn, I was hoping for that sentence to be completed.
#1481 [18:20] <lemon-rev> hahahha
#1482 [18:21] <lemon-rev> yea same
#1483 [18:21] <lemon-rev> oh well, win some loose some :)
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#1485 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> True story: I put a 'PayPal Donate' badge on the 'look at my maps images' directory browser, and was given nearly $200 within a week.
#1486 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> I was floored.
#1487 [18:26] <Kealper> lolwut
#1488 [18:27] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
#1489 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Which is good, because I'm about to need more hard drive space for my server, and with those donations, that and the RAM I already bought are paid for :D
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#1491 [18:28] <Kealper> nice lol
#1492 [18:28] <Kealper> shit....maybe i should open my server up to be a bit more public and have a donate badge o.o
#1493 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> I wonder what'll happen if I put one on the Google Map, heh
#1494 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> The static images are too big to open in anything but GIMP now
#1495 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> even after trimming the world to X->+/- 2000; Z +/= 2000
#1496 [18:30] <Kealper> O.o
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#1501 [18:40] <Anthro> can someone help me with a server issue
#1502 [18:41] <Anthro> -pokes grey-
#1503 [18:41] <Anthro> -pokes xales-
#1504 [18:41] <xales> sorry, hi
#1505 [18:41] <xales> whats the issue?
#1506 [18:41] <Anthro> hiii :3
#1507 [18:42] <Anthro> well i loged into my server and built a bunch of stuff and died a bunch
#1508 [18:42] <Anthro> damn creepers
#1509 [18:42] <Anthro> and today i loged back in and yes i did save yesterday
#1510 [18:42] <Anthro> and im in a completly differnt place no where near my stuff
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#1513 [18:45] <Anthro> any idea?
#1514 [18:46] <SkiingPenguins> can you see your stuff or recognize anything?
#1515 [18:46] <Anthro> noi dont i was in a winter snow area the place im at now is all islands and crap
#1516 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Anthro: perhaps the server admin regenerated the map?
#1517 [18:47] <ssen> oh rargh
#1518 [18:47] <Anthro> im the admin its my server lol
#1519 [18:47] <ssen> I keep getting alerts from this channel
#1520 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> ssen: gesundheit
#1521 [18:47] <ssen> This time it was: Noi
#1522 [18:47] <SkiingPenguins> moin?
#1523 [18:47] <Anthro> ahem
#1524 [18:47] <ssen> Noi/Nate/ssen are my only alerts, and I get them nearly erryday here
#1525 [18:47] <ssen> weird stuff
#1526 [18:47] <SkiingPenguins> Anthro sorry i have no idea
#1527 [18:48] <ssen> Whats your issue, Anthro...?
#1528 [18:48] <Anthro> i did the whole level wide save
#1529 [18:48] <lego1042> I'm trying to build something that stores a single bit and is capable of adding a single bit to the stored bit
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#1531 [18:48] <lego1042> as well as outputs 1 if the bit was reset
#1532 [18:48] <Anthro> i spawned in one area made some progress and collected stuff and i log in today and im no where near where i was yesterday
#1533 [18:48] <lego1042> but I seem to be having trouble using latches
#1534 [18:49] <lego1042> could anyone tell me how to keep my latch from shorting out when I try to reset it?
#1535 [18:50] <Anthro> any idea ssen?
#1536 [18:51] <ssen> Do you happen to be using mcregion?
#1537 [18:51] <ssen> Or any mods whatsoever?
#1538 [18:51] <ssen> Sounds like a generic chunk error, but I can't really be sure you didn't just overwrite your save.
#1539 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Anthro - Maybe load up your map in MCedit, take a look around and see if you can't recognize something
#1540 [18:51] <ssen> Do you still have any items from yesterday?
#1541 [18:52] <Anthro> let me go check
#1542 [18:53] <LordEddi> Wish I could spawn mobs on players :(
#1543 [18:54] <LordEddi> Even more so; Wish I could spawn lava directly on players.
#1544 [18:54] <LordEddi> xD
#1545 [18:54] <SkiingPenguins> no just spawn water around then so its slow death
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#1547 [18:55] <Armalitex> back for a few mins, grey did you find out anything by chance?
#1548 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> I'd have to tickle the modem a bit to be sure, but right now, nothing
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#1551 [18:57] <TruGaming> hey all
#1552 [18:57] <xales> hello
#1553 [18:57] <jake__> Hey guys. Have a slight problem with MineCraft on the Mac. My music isn't playing. Sound effects work great, just not music. I've checked the obvious volume settings, but still nothing. Any suggestions?
#1554 [18:58] <Armalitex> going to steak and shake then ill be back and you can poke at it some more if you want
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#1556 [18:58] <xales> jake__: Music only plays at certain random intervals
#1557 [18:58] <Jakob> O_O
#1558 [18:58] <jake__> xales: Ah, I guess that explains it.
#1559 [18:58] <jake__> xales: thanks
#1560 [18:58] <xales> no problem
#1561 [18:59] <TruGaming> Erm is minecraft classic down for you all?
#1562 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> TruGaming - yes
#1563 [19:00] <TruGaming> damn
#1564 [19:00] <TruGaming> Any ideas when it will be up :](
#1565 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> No, sorry.
#1566 [19:00] <TruGaming> Damn okay
#1567 [19:01] <TruGaming> :D
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#1570 [19:22] <Neomex> hey, is it possibile to play old minecraft multiplayer for free?
#1571 [19:22] <Neomex> ive got null exception error
#1572 [19:22] <Kealper> depends, what old minecraft?
#1573 [19:23] <Neomex> this on their page
#1574 [19:23] <woder> clasic
#1575 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Creative? Currently broken.
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#1577 [19:23] <woder> some one just loged into my server
#1578 [19:24] <woder> how if it is not working?
#1579 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ..intermittently broke.
#1580 [19:24] <woder> ?
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#1583 [19:33] <red_snow> Hello everyone
#1584 [19:33] <red_snow> Just bought a new VPS
#1585 [19:34] <red_snow> i was wondering if someone could help me set it up
#1586 [19:34] <AndrewPH> pay me and i will
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#1588 [19:35] <red_snow> meh ok
#1589 [19:35] <red_snow> what kinda fee are we looking at ?
#1590 [19:36] <AndrewPH> 15bux yo
#1591 [19:36] <woder> lol
#1592 [19:36] <red_snow> can you also install McAdmin?
#1593 [19:38] <Kealper> MCAdmin.....lul
#1594 [19:38] * Kealper hates MCAdmin
#1594 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Isn't that the one with the backdoor that was later taken out?
#1595 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> (allegedly)
#1596 [19:38] <red_snow> yup
#1597 [19:38] <red_snow> :)
#1598 [19:38] <Kealper> yea
#1599 [19:39] <Kealper> the one that has the emotionally insecure dev >.>
#1600 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> That's putting it kindly
#1601 [19:39] <red_snow> yup
#1602 [19:39] <red_snow> and he is a furry
#1603 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> That's irrelevant.
#1604 [19:39] <red_snow> lol
#1605 [19:39] <Kealper> not quite sure how that was even....yeah, what dope said
#1606 [19:40] <red_snow> i run 3-4 valve servers but have no clue abt minecraft
#1607 [19:40] * DopeGhoti isn't entirely sure why being a furry is so stigmatized while other dress-up fetishes are not
#1607 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> but this isn't #sexualproclivities, so I'll nip that rant in the bud.
#1608 [19:41] <red_snow> someone gifted me minecraft last wk
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#1610 [19:41] <red_snow> and now i a minecraft addict
#1611 [19:42] <red_snow> i did install java sdk and minecraft on the vps
#1612 [19:42] <red_snow> but when i try to connect , i get connection refused
#1613 [19:42] <red_snow> its prolly something i did wrong i think
#1614 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Is the server running?
#1615 [19:42] <red_snow> yeah i think so
#1616 [19:42] <red_snow> lol
#1617 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Could you check to be sure?
#1618 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> (on the server console, run 'list' or 'help' or some command to ensure the server is responding to console input
#1619 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> )
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#1621 [19:45] <red_snow> run "list" in putty?
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#1623 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> run list in the minecraft server's console thing
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#1625 [19:49] * the_late_man is away: polyatomic ions and molecular geometry... what fun
#1625 [19:49] <SkiingPenguins> ... you join then tell us you're leaving
#1626 [19:49] <red_snow> how do i invoke minecraft console in putty?
#1627 [19:50] <Kealper> did you run it through screen?
#1628 [19:50] <red_snow> command line
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#1630 [19:50] <Kealper> but did you type "screen" before it?
#1631 [19:51] <Kealper> if you didn't, and you logged out of ssh, it's probably not running anymore
#1632 [19:51] <red_snow> aah
#1633 [19:51] <Kealper> install a program called screen on your server
#1634 [19:52] <Kealper> it's definately a must-have if you use nix servers
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#1636 [19:52] <red_snow> i think i do have it installed
#1637 [19:53] <red_snow> which screen
#1638 [19:53] <red_snow> usr/bin/screen
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#1640 [19:54] <crossedeyefreak> I need help
#1641 [19:54] <crossedeyefreak> 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.NullPointerException
#1642 [19:55] <crossedeyefreak> Trying to run server, got error when logging on
#1643 [19:56] <red_snow> Kealper can you take a look at it
#1644 [19:56] <red_snow> i can PM you the ssh login
#1645 [19:58] <Kealper> uhh....i guess....
#1646 [19:58] <Kealper> before you do that though
#1647 [19:58] <Kealper> type passwd
#1648 [19:58] <Kealper> and chnage your password
#1649 [19:58] <Kealper> you can change it back when everything is done
#1650 [19:58] <crossedeyefreak> But, I can't connect to the server
#1651 [19:58] <crossedeyefreak> It won't let me
#1652 [19:59] <crossedeyefreak> Do I have to have Port 25565 open?
#1653 [19:59] <Kealper> crossedeyefreak: uhh....that looks like a website issue
#1654 [19:59] <crossedeyefreak> Oh
#1655 [19:59] <Kealper> try clearing your browser cache
#1656 [19:59] <crossedeyefreak> How do I do it in firefox?
#1657 [20:00] <Kealper> ctrl+shift+del
#1658 [20:00] <Kealper> check the box for clearing cache
#1659 [20:00] <Kealper> reload page
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#1661 [20:01] <crossedeyefreak> Its a server issue, because, I can connect to other servers besides mine
#1662 [20:02] <Kealper> oh? hmm....can you access minecraft.net on your server? (using internet explorer)
#1663 [20:02] <crossedeyefreak> Lemme check
#1664 [20:03] <woder> minecraft.net is having problems on that
#1665 [20:03] <crossedeyefreak> lol
#1666 [20:03] <woder> no one can connect to other servers
#1667 [20:03] <crossedeyefreak> I can connect to other servers though
#1668 [20:03] <crossedeyefreak> brb
#1669 [20:04] <woder> umm
#1670 [20:05] <crossedeyefreak> GOD. I hate IE.
#1671 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> I finally found a worse product than IE
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#1673 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Or rather, it found me.
#1674 [20:05] <crossedeyefreak> What?
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#1676 [20:06] <soforth> hi all. first timer. i'm looking for a little bit o tech support. can you help me?
#1677 [20:06] <crossedeyefreak> IE, wont even open, so, rather, I uninstalled it
#1678 [20:07] <crossedeyefreak> but I'm getting 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException
#1679 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> crossedeyefreak: Classic?
#1680 [20:07] <crossedeyefreak> Yes
#1681 [20:07] <woder> it is broken
#1682 [20:07] <woder> needs fixing
#1683 [20:07] <woder> who is gona fix it?
#1684 [20:08] <crossedeyefreak> I can connect to other servers though, woder
#1685 [20:08] <crossedeyefreak> Wait, Now I can't
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#1687 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> woder: who will fix it? The folks at Mojang, maybe
#1688 [20:09] <crossedeyefreak> Hopefully soon.
#1689 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> that or maybe they'll (finally) add Creative move to the current codebase
#1690 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> er, mode
#1691 [20:09] <crossedeyefreak> lol
#1692 [20:09] <crossedeyefreak> Codebase?
#1693 [20:09] <crossedeyefreak> whats that?
#1694 [20:10] <soforth> WinXP, java up-to-date. just bought and downloaded MC for first time. the first time i ran the program i was able to log in. it downloaded some files and then quit out. so i run again, log in, it says "done loading" then quits. here's the weirdest part
#1695 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> the base in which the code lies.
#1696 [20:10] <soforth> it does the same thing in the browser
#1697 [20:10] <crossedeyefreak> But wait, to Beta?
#1698 [20:14] <soforth> anyone around willing to take a case?
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#1700 [20:17] <OODavo> soforth: What seems to be the problem?
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#1702 [20:17] * OODavo reads the logs.
#1702 [20:17] <OODavo> Oh. Hmm.
#1703 [20:18] <OODavo> Have you tried a reinstall yet?
#1704 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> soforth: clear out and redownload the binaries?
#1705 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> !reinstall
#1706 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> ^that.
#1707 [20:18] <soforth> *checking out the link*
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#1709 [20:18] <woder> !reinstall
#1710 [20:18] <woder> oh ok
#1711 [20:19] <soforth> sorry, where is this minecraft folder supposed to be?
#1712 [20:19] <OODavo> soforth: Which operating system are you using?
#1713 [20:20] <soforth> xp
#1714 [20:20] * OODavo remembers to read. :|
#1714 [20:20] <soforth> heh
#1715 [20:20] <OODavo> Go to C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Application Data\Roaming.
#1716 [20:20] <OODavo> It should be in there.
#1717 [20:21] <OODavo> For some reason the wiki doesn't have the username part. :/
#1718 [20:21] <soforth> haha. looks like i need to remember to read.
#1719 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> soforth: easier way: start -> Run -> %AppData%
#1720 [20:21] <OODavo> Or you can do that. ^
#1721 [20:21] <soforth> found it. deleting now.
#1722 [20:21] <soforth> running minecraft.exe
#1723 [20:22] <soforth> login worked again. downloading. and... nothing.
#1724 [20:22] <soforth> just quits out
#1725 [20:22] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1726 [20:22] <OODavo> No error messages?
#1727 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java?
#1728 [20:22] <soforth> nope
#1729 [20:23] <soforth> the most recent one
#1730 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Humor me: what version?
#1731 [20:23] <soforth> v6 u23
#1732 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> k
#1733 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Would you mind trying something really outlandish for me?
#1734 [20:23] <soforth> sabsolutely
#1735 [20:24] <soforth> absolutely
#1736 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Create a new Windows user, log in as that user, and see if the problem persists there.
#1737 [20:24] <woder> wow
#1738 [20:24] <soforth> okay, i'll try it.
#1739 [20:24] <soforth> back in a sec.
#1740 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> you bet
#1741 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> "/part" (:
#1742 [20:25] <woder> prety big thing to do to get minecraft working
#1743 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> woder: sometimes there's software installed in the users' profiles that breaks Java subtly
#1744 [20:25] <OODavo> woder: If it works here we can try to narrow down the issue with the profile and fix that.
#1745 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> This is just a way to see whether there is such a thing going on, or whether there is some incompatibility with the system
#1746 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> You'd be surprised how many times the EU comes back saying "Wow, it worked there!"
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#1748 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> (and not just with Minecraft)
#1749 [20:27] <woder> lol
#1750 [20:27] <soforth> back... i wish i could say it worked
#1751 [20:27] <soforth> but no such luck
#1752 [20:28] <OODavo> So it's not a profile issue.
#1753 [20:28] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1754 [20:28] <OODavo> Perhaps running it in a command line could reveal some error messages.
#1755 [20:28] <soforth> and you saw where i said that it's not working in the browser? that did make me think it had something to do with java.
#1756 [20:29] <OODavo> soforth: Where do you have Minecraft.exe?
#1757 [20:29] <soforth> desktop
#1758 [20:29] <OODavo> Ah.
#1759 [20:29] * OODavo can't remember how to access the desktop in cmd.
#1759 [20:29] <soforth> well i can easily copy it to c:/ to make it easy
#1760 [20:29] <soforth> haha
#1761 [20:29] <OODavo> Yeah, do that.
#1762 [20:29] <soforth> c : /
#1763 [20:30] <soforth> done
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#1765 [20:31] <OODavo> Right, now bring up Start -> Run again and enter "cmd.exe".
#1766 [20:31] <soforth> got it
#1767 [20:31] <OODavo> That should bring up a command line window.
#1768 [20:31] <soforth> yup
#1769 [20:31] <OODavo> Use "cd /" to move up to C:/
#1770 [20:31] <OODavo> and then run "Minecraft.exe".
#1771 [20:32] <soforth> sorry i'm pretty inexperienced with dos/windows. can you tell me the exact syntax?
#1772 [20:32] <OODavo> Just type it in.
#1773 [20:32] <OODavo> "Minecraft.exe"
#1774 [20:32] <OODavo> And then hit Enter.
#1775 [20:33] <OODavo> (With no quotes, though)
#1776 [20:33] <soforth> i mean to change directory
#1777 [20:33] <OODavo> Oh, sorry.
#1778 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> cd \ ; not cd /
#1779 [20:33] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: Ah, right. Whoops.
#1780 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> this is DOS, not POSIX
#1781 [20:33] * OODavo can't remember the difference between DOS and real operating systems. Whoops.
#1781 [20:33] <soforth> got it
#1782 [20:33] <soforth> thanks
#1783 [20:33] <OODavo> Yeah, cd \
#1784 [20:34] <soforth> damn.
#1785 [20:34] <soforth> it went to login again then quit out after "done loading". no messages in the command line window.
#1786 [20:34] <OODavo> Darn. :(
#1787 [20:35] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1788 [20:36] <soforth> yeah, its a head-scratcher. i just want to play MC!
#1789 [20:36] <OODavo> Does Classic work?
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#1791 [20:37] <soforth> hadn't tried. just brought it up in browser and it looks like it does!
#1792 [20:37] <OODavo> Okay, so your Java does work. As does your graphics interface.
#1793 [20:37] <OODavo> What antivirus are you using?
#1794 [20:39] <soforth> symantic. i have "proactive threat protection" disabled
#1795 [20:39] <soforth> symantec
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#1797 [20:39] <OODavo> It could be interfering in some other way, still.
#1798 [20:39] <OODavo> Can you disable it completely temporarily?
#1799 [20:40] <soforth> yup
#1800 [20:40] <soforth> done. running again.
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#1802 [20:40] <soforth> nope.
#1803 [20:40] <soforth> same results.
#1804 [20:40] <OODavo> Then that wasn't it. Hmm.
#1805 [20:41] <OODavo> Okay, let us check whether the process is running at all.
#1806 [20:41] <OODavo> Hit Ctrl-Shift-Esc to open up Task Manager.
#1807 [20:42] <soforth> got it. what process am i looking for?
#1808 [20:42] <OODavo> "javaw.exe".
#1809 [20:43] <soforth> right now, before running, i can see java.exe, but no javaw.exe
#1810 [20:43] <OODavo> That could just be another Java application running.
#1811 [20:44] <OODavo> See if javaw comes up when you run the game.
#1812 [20:44] <soforth> aha, okay i see javaw.exe when i open to the log in screen
#1813 [20:44] <soforth> it does
#1814 [20:44] <OODavo> Right.
#1815 [20:44] <OODavo> That's what should be happening, so good.
#1816 [20:44] <soforth> and the process ends when the program quits
#1817 [20:45] <OODavo> That makes sense.
#1818 [20:45] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1819 [20:45] <OODavo> You wouldn't happen to have any idea what that other Java program is?
#1820 [20:46] <soforth> could very well be this chat client, or something else in the browser
#1821 [20:46] <soforth> though i've tried running it with no other programs running
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#1823 [20:49] <OODavo> Darn. I'm out of ideas now. :(
#1824 [20:49] <OODavo> Try just reinstalling Java or something?
#1825 [20:50] <soforth> Will do. and if that doesn't work i'll reinstall windows. it was a good effort!
#1826 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> soforth: Have you tried in the Task Manager, ending _every single_ other task besides explorer.exe, and then running Minecraft?
#1827 [20:50] <OODavo> DopeGhoti: That sounds like a seriously dangerous idea.
#1828 [20:50] <soforth> dopeghoti: no, not every single one.
#1829 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Ending tasks? Worst case is needing a reboot afterwards.
#1830 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> That's the last idea I have
#1831 [20:51] <OODavo> True.
#1832 [20:51] <soforth> i think it would probably be okay to try.
#1833 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> OODavo has been pretty throurough
#1834 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> and also thourough
#1835 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> or however it's supposed to be spelled.
#1836 [20:52] <OODavo> Thorough?
#1837 [20:52] <soforth> that he has. thank you very much OODavo and DopeGhoti.
#1838 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Probably.
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#1840 [20:53] <soforth> I let you know if i figure anything out. For now I'm off to end some tasks and update things.
#1841 [20:53] <soforth> see ya.
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#1843 [20:55] <mib_vr48zn> hello
#1844 [20:55] <mib_vr48zn> hey how do u make a portal in multiplayer from one portal to another, non nether?
#1845 [20:56] <dopeghoti> mib_vr48zn: by running unsupported mods
#1846 [20:56] <mib_vr48zn> aw crap
#1847 [20:56] <mib_vr48zn> ok thnx
#1848 [21:01] <OODavo> That idea would actually be a pretty neat feature.
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#1850 [21:01] <OODavo> Until the Nether works in SMP, it'd be nice to have fast-travel portals.
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#1852 [21:12] <Maddogg713> Is minecraft.net down?
#1853 [21:12] <OODavo> Maddogg713: isminecraft.net says no.
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#1856 [21:14] * OODavo realises he typed "isminecraft" and not "isminecraftdown".
#1856 [21:14] <OODavo> AUGH
#1857 [21:14] <Firestorm> Is the master server down or something?
#1858 [21:14] <OODavo> :s/isminecraft/isminecraftdown/
#1859 [21:14] <Firestorm> isminecraftdown
#1860 [21:14] <OODavo> Firestorm: According to isminecraftdown.net, it's up.
#1861 [21:14] <Firestorm> The site is up, but I'm getting 500 errors with all of the server links
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#1863 [21:15] <yamato392> hi
#1864 [21:15] <Firestorm> Hey
#1865 [21:15] <yamato392> i'm new to minecraft, i tried clicking on multiplayer servers but i can't see to get anywhere
#1866 [21:15] <woder> that is creative
#1867 [21:15] <woder> there is a problem with it
#1868 [21:15] <OODavo> The Classic MP does indeed seem to not be working.
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#1870 [21:17] <yamato392> how long will it be down?
#1871 [21:19] <OODavo> yamato392: All eternity.
#1872 [21:19] <woder> i don't think any one is fixing it so maybe tomorow
#1873 [21:20] <woder> in my time
#1874 [21:20] <woder> so like 9 hours
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#1876 [21:22] <Firestorm> hope not, I've got a building in mind and want to start working on it
#1877 [21:23] <firefwing24> is classic still down?
#1878 [21:23] <OODavo> Firestorm: Do you not have Beta? :/
#1879 [21:24] <OODavo> firefwing24: Apparently it is.
#1880 [21:24] <Firestorm> No, i don't right now
#1881 [21:24] <Firestorm> I'm new to MineCraft
#1882 [21:24] <woder> OODavo try it your self
#1883 [21:24] <woder> it is down
#1884 [21:25] <OODavo> You could probably work on it in single player, but since you need to buy the game to save that's pretty pointless.
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#1886 [21:25] <Firestorm> yep
#1887 [21:26] <woder> better just wait till it is fixed
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#1891 [21:29] <tapiocapudding> is classic multiplayer down or is that just me
#1892 [21:31] <OODavo> tapiocapudding: It's down.
#1893 [21:31] <tapiocapudding> kthx
#1894 [21:32] <Firestorm> I see that some people are still able to connect to servers?
#1895 [21:32] <Firestorm> is there an alternate way to connect
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#1897 [21:33] <Firestorm> than using the Java link
#1898 [21:33] <OODavo> Firestorm: They could be using the WoM client.
#1899 [21:33] <OODavo> Not sure if that still works or not.
#1900 [21:34] <Firestorm> I have WoM it doesn't work either, but it uses the same Java URL the site does
#1901 [21:34] <Firestorm> other people have found ways to connect to servers, just trying to figure out how
#1902 [21:34] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1903 [21:36] <Firestorm> Like in the server browser it shows that some servers have people in them, and the number of people is going up and down on some servers
#1904 [21:36] <Firestorm> so some people have found a way in
#1905 [21:36] <OODavo> Somehow, yeah.
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#1907 [21:39] <xMopx> hey, im working on a mob grinder. Ive heard mobs spawn 24 to 144 spaces around you. Is this sphereical or looking from the top-down in a cyclinderical fashion?
#1908 [21:39] <OODavo> I would guess cylindrical.
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#1910 [21:41] <xMopx> Alright thanks, i was afraid of that.
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#1912 [21:54] <Kealper> xales: are you here?
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#1914 [21:58] <firefwing24> hi
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#1924 [22:25] <Rollin20s> So I have a bit of a problem.
#1925 [22:26] <lemon-rev> ok and ?
#1926 [22:26] <mysterlune> hi, i'm trying to run minecraft on a windows xp machine with an AIT Rage XL video card, which is very, very old and predates opengl... so i'm getting an error from the minecraft program indicating that i need a video card with opengl support. updating my driver has not helped, so need a new video card. question for the group here is, would this video card work? http://tinyurl.com/4qp4bzo
#1927 [22:26] <Rollin20s> When I try to load my client, I get an error saying bad graphics card drivers.
#1928 [22:26] <Rollin20s> I have a GeFore 9800 GTX+
#1929 [22:26] <Rollin20s> GeForce*
#1930 [22:27] <Rollin20s> Any ideas?
#1931 [22:27] <lemon-rev> ok, can you make sure your drivers are all good
#1932 [22:27] <Rollin20s> How do I update the drivers?
#1933 [22:27] <lemon-rev> or like try installing the latest nvidia drivers
#1934 [22:27] <Rollin20s> Do I just go to the website?
#1935 [22:27] <lemon-rev> yup
#1936 [22:28] <lemon-rev> and select drivers and then select make and whatnot and it will give you a file to download
#1937 [22:28] <Rollin20s> Alright downloading now
#1938 [22:28] <lemon-rev> btw can you get to the login screen or does it crash b efore that
#1939 [22:29] <Rollin20s> I get to the login screen, then it says loaded
#1940 [22:29] <Rollin20s> then the error come up
#1941 [22:30] <lemon-rev> oh, so did it at all download extra files after you ran minecraft.exe the verry first time and logged in ?
#1942 [22:30] <Rollin20s> No
#1943 [22:30] <lemon-rev> i see
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#1945 [22:30] <Robo-Knight> hya guys
#1946 [22:30] <lemon-rev> ok well ill wait till you updated video drivers and see next what happens
#1947 [22:30] <Rollin20s> Alright
#1948 [22:31] <Rollin20s> Updating now
#1949 [22:31] <Rollin20s> If my system restarts, I'll brb.
#1950 [22:31] <lemon-rev> kk
#1951 [22:32] <Rollin20s> Okay well I guess it doesn't need to reboot.
#1952 [22:32] <Rollin20s> So now that it's updated
#1953 [22:32] <Rollin20s> Should I test it?
#1954 [22:32] <Rollin20s> K, it's working now
#1955 [22:32] <Rollin20s> Lmfao
#1956 [22:32] <Rollin20s> Thanks lemon
#1957 [22:33] <lemon-rev> lol
#1958 [22:33] <lemon-rev> np
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#1961 [22:35] <Rollin20s> Woah
#1962 [22:35] <Rollin20s> Definitely not what I expected lol
#1963 [22:35] <lemon-rev> ?
#1964 [22:35] <mysterlune> my bad, the video card i'm currently using is ATI Rage XL (not AIT). the most updated driver available for this old edsel is dated in june of 2002. so, still wondering if anyone has thoughts on http://tinyurl.com/4qp4bzo . the product specs don't specifically call out opengl support as a feature (i'm guessing because it's assumed) but i just want to be sure before making a purchase.
#1965 [22:35] <Rollin20s> The game, didn't think i was gunna be able to like move around like this :P
#1966 [22:35] <Rollin20s> It's my first time playing this
#1967 [22:36] <lemon-rev> sweet, so its working well then ? rollin20's
#1968 [22:36] <Rollin20s> Yes, prefectly
#1969 [22:36] <lemon-rev> look mysterlune how much you going to put towards a new card and go with nvidia you goose lol ati sux shit
#1970 [22:36] <lemon-rev> sweet, then good luck on your first adventre :)
#1971 [22:37] <lemon-rev> and dont mine too close to spawn point blocks will regrow
#1972 [22:38] <mysterlune> well, i have this freaky agp connector on my motherboard, and there are only ten or so cards in the world that will fit into the thing.
#1973 [22:39] <lemon-rev> hm
#1974 [22:39] <lemon-rev> agp is that motherboard cabable of 8x or only 4x
#1975 [22:39] <mysterlune> so, if i want a slicker item, it will be a pci or pci-e jobber that will require a motherboard upgrade, and processor...
#1976 [22:39] <lemon-rev> cause if your only 4x then yea your wasting your time
#1977 [22:39] <lemon-rev> correct
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#1979 [22:40] <lemon-rev> and i think your wasting your time just with one item for such an old machine, its time to make that computer part of the old collection sitting in sheads lol
#1980 [22:40] <mysterlune> add it to the heap, i guess...
#1981 [22:41] <Neutron> why are the hitboxes in SMP messed up?
#1982 [22:41] <lemon-rev> yup,
#1983 [22:41] <lemon-rev> wtf hitboxes ?
#1984 [22:41] <Neutron> humans have a giant hitbox and its hard to hit zombies
#1985 [22:41] <Neutron> like place you can hit
#1986 [22:41] <lemon-rev> oh
#1987 [22:41] <TehZomB> oh, is that why zombies can reach me from two blocks away? V_V
#1988 [22:41] <Neutron> zombies and SMP hit you more than in single player over farther distances
#1989 [22:42] <lemon-rev> it just seems that way cause of lag lol
#1990 [22:42] <Neutron> and you can't hit a zombie tho too if ur using murder holes
#1991 [22:42] <Neutron> it is impossible to hit a zombie's feet with a diamond sword if they are one block away
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#1994 [22:52] <Lord> Hey, can somebody help me really quick?
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#1996 [22:53] <Claros> I'm having a bit of trouble with getting MineCraft running.
#1997 [22:53] <Claros> It says that a certain file path can't be found.
#1998 [22:54] <lemon-rev> hm
#1999 [22:54] <lemon-rev> whats the exact line claros
#2000 [22:54] <Claros> I checked the C:\Users\[Name]\AppData folder, but there's no folder in "Roaming" for MineCraft.
#2001 [22:54] <Claros> Let me check.
#2002 [22:54] <lemon-rev> and how long have you had this probelm
#2003 [22:54] <Claros> I just got MineCraft today.
#2004 [22:54] <lemon-rev> ok
#2005 [22:54] <lemon-rev> so, in appdata in my documents
#2006 [22:55] <Claros> It says in the launcher...
#2007 [22:55] <lemon-rev> theres no .minecraft < folder ?
#2008 [22:56] <lemon-rev> claros ? ^^^
#2009 [22:56] <Claros> "Failed to laungch" Then below it, it says ":C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar (The system cannot -- it get's cut off here --"
#2010 [22:56] <Claros> I'm guessing that it can't find the file specified.
#2011 [22:56] <Claros> And it shouldn't, as the file specified doesn't even exist.
#2012 [22:56] <lemon-rev> hm
#2013 [22:57] <lemon-rev> why is it gone to roaming i dont get that part of it
#2014 [22:57] <Claros> So, to answer your question, there is no ".minecraft" folder in AppData>Roaming.
#2015 [22:57] <lemon-rev> thought the defult was just appdata\.minecraft
#2016 [22:57] <Claros> That's what it says.
#2017 [22:57] <Claros> Huh.
#2018 [22:57] <Claros> I just downloaded it.
#2019 [22:57] <Claros> So maybe it just got updated?
#2020 [22:57] <lemon-rev> ok so do you have a folder called roaming in my doc's appdata
#2021 [22:57] <Claros> It's not in My Documents.
#2022 [22:58] <Claros> It's in "C:\Users\user\AppData"
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#2024 [22:58] <lemon-rev> win 7?
#2025 [22:58] <Claros> That's the filepath that it's looking in.
#2026 [22:58] <Claros> yeah.
#2027 [22:58] <lemon-rev> ok look in my documents please
#2028 [22:58] <Claros> Okay, one sec...
#2029 [22:58] <lemon-rev> and see if you can find appdata / .minecraft
#2030 [22:59] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2030 [22:59] <lemon-rev> lol
#2031 [22:59] <lemon-rev> so you should
#2032 [22:59] <lemon-rev> do you know wtf, is wrong here ?
#2033 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> I just got here..
#2034 [22:59] <lemon-rev> oh
#2035 [22:59] <Claros> Nope.
#2036 [22:59] <lemon-rev> hm
#2037 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Claros - Do you have hidden files and folders set to show?
#2038 [22:59] <lemon-rev> greyvulpine win7 trying to get mc to run, [14:57] <Claros> "Failed to laungch" Then below it, it says ":C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar (The system cannot -- it get's cut off here --"
#2039 [22:59] <Claros> No folder called "AppData" in My Documents.
#2040 [22:59] <lemon-rev> k
#2041 [23:00] <Claros> I don't have hidden folders showing.
#2042 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Claros - Can you open up an explorer window, press alt.
#2043 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Do you see "Tools" in the bar at the top?
#2044 [23:00] <Claros> But I can just enter the the path in the address bar.
#2045 [23:00] <Claros> I'll try that...
#2046 [23:01] <Claros> No hidden folders, at all, in My Documents.
#2047 [23:01] <Claros> Ah.
#2048 [23:01] <Claros> there it is.
#2049 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Claros - No, can you go to your computer. do you have "Tools" in the bar at the top
#2050 [23:01] <Claros> It WAS in Roaming.
#2051 [23:01] <Claros> I just found it.
#2052 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#2053 [23:02] <Claros> But the bin folder is an undefined file.
#2054 [23:02] <Claros> I think that's why.
#2055 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> undefined file?
#2056 [23:02] <Claros> It's looking for a folder.
#2057 [23:02] <Claros> A file without an extetion.
#2058 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Right..
#2059 [23:02] <Claros> I think I know how to fix that...
#2060 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Can you delete the whole .minecraft folder?
#2061 [23:02] <Claros> let me try something...
#2062 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#2063 [23:02] <Claros> Yeah, one second.
#2064 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> It'll redownload everything
#2065 [23:03] <Claros> YES.
#2066 [23:03] <Claros> Thanks!
#2067 [23:03] <Claros> It's downloading everything now.
#2068 [23:03] <Claros> I think it's because I have another MineCraft installation that didn't finish or something.
#2069 [23:04] <Claros> I tried installing it earlier.
#2070 [23:04] <Claros> We're good!
#2071 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#2072 [23:04] <Claros> That's, guys1
#2073 [23:04] <Claros> I wish that there was a way to give you guys some kind of "rep" or something.
#2074 [23:04] <Claros> xd
#2075 [23:04] <Claros> xD
#2076 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first person to mention that
#2077 [23:05] <Claros> lulz
#2078 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, no way to do that on IRC
#2079 [23:05] <Claros> D:
#2080 [23:06] <Claros> So, are any of you running a server that I can hop into?
#2081 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Mine's only up to test connections.
#2082 [23:06] <Claros> Ooh, I should take that kind of conversation to the chatter channel, huh?
#2083 [23:06] <Claros> lulz
#2084 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#2085 [23:06] <Claros> Are you an admin?
#2086 [23:06] <Claros> For a mod?
#2087 [23:06] <Claros> Or*
#2088 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Just on my own little personal server.
#2089 [23:07] <Claros> Ah.
#2090 [23:07] <Claros> I'm gonna start messing around.
#2091 [23:07] <Claros> =D
#2092 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Well, there are a ton of public beta servers available here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2093 [23:10] <Claros> Thanks!
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#2096 [23:26] <EmpiresBane> woah...
#2097 [23:26] <EmpiresBane> lots more ops since the last time i was here
#2098 [23:27] <CruelNoise> eh
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#2100 [23:28] <xales> Kealper: Nope
#2101 [23:29] <Kealper> yeah, never mind, i found out the secret to those megafast timer circuits you were using on the arrow dispenser gatlin guns
#2102 [23:29] <xales> oh, that
#2103 [23:30] <xales> so, Kealper, Windows didn't even notice the drive moved
#2104 [23:30] <Kealper> nice lol
#2105 [23:31] <xales> I haven't checked since actually formatting the space, but unallocated, windows doesn't care
#2106 [23:31] <xales> For some damn reason, I can't get sound to work >.>
#2107 [23:31] <xales> I'm done messing around for tonight though
#2108 [23:31] <EmpiresBane> damn ubuntu, why won't minecraft work...
#2109 [23:32] <EmpiresBane> this is what i hate about new OS's
#2110 [23:32] <EmpiresBane> the error messages make no sense
#2111 [23:32] <xales> ?
#2112 [23:32] <xales> most people seem to run it fine under Ubuntu
#2113 [23:32] <Robo-Knight> hi there guys, I have a question
#2114 [23:32] <xales> Robo-Knight: Ask away
#2115 [23:32] <Robo-Knight> i brought mine craft yesterday & now I can't access it today
#2116 [23:33] <Robo-Knight> in fact, even the e-mails with my account info aren't showing up in hotmail & my password isn't getting sent to it
#2117 [23:33] <xales> were you able to access it yesterday?
#2118 [23:33] <EmpiresBane> were you able to play it yesterday?
#2119 [23:34] <Robo-Knight> yes
#2120 [23:34] <Robo-Knight> I payed 20 Dollars via paypal, played for a few hours & went to bed :/
#2121 [23:34] <xales> what happpens when you try to play now?
#2122 [23:35] <Robo-Knight> it keeps saying my account info is incorrect
#2123 [23:35] <xales> what exactly does it say?
#2124 [23:36] <Robo-Knight> checking
#2125 [23:36] <Robo-Knight> Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password.
#2126 [23:37] <xales> what is the username?
#2127 [23:38] <Robo-Knight> RoboKnight
#2128 [23:38] <Robo-Knight> at least I think so, I have way to many passwords to remember
#2129 [23:38] <xales> Username is valid...are you sure the password is correct?
#2130 [23:38] <xales> Kealper: Question for you, if you are around
#2131 [23:39] <Robo-Knight> I think so :/
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#2133 [23:40] <Clarrisani> Anyone on?
#2134 [23:41] <xales> Nope
#2135 [23:41] <Clarrisani> lol
#2136 [23:41] <Clarrisani> Anyone know what's going on with the Classic Multiplayer server?
#2137 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> They're down
#2138 [23:41] <Robo-Knight> I wonder how I can get my password if it's not showing up :/
#2139 [23:42] <Clarrisani> Aside from the obvious?
#2140 [23:42] <Clarrisani> Do we know why they're down?
#2141 [23:42] <EmpiresBane> probably related to the migration
#2142 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> mollstam still needs to update the classic interface to update with the server migration
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#2144 [23:43] <Clarrisani> Hmm. Been down for several hours. Any idea how long this might take?
#2145 [23:43] <xales> Robo-Knight: Double check it is correct
#2146 [23:43] <Robo-Knight> it's not the name, it's the password
#2147 [23:43] <xales> Robo-Knight: Correct
#2148 [23:43] <Robo-Knight> the passwords wrong though
#2149 [23:44] <Robo-Knight> odd
#2150 [23:44] <xales> Indeed
#2151 [23:44] <Robo-Knight> I tried that name and it says can't find user
#2152 [23:44] <EmpiresBane> Clarrisani, i'd expect only a week at the most
#2153 [23:44] <xales> well, "RoboKnight" is valid
#2154 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> ah
#2155 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> v
#2156 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> An email was recently sent to that user!
#2157 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> *
#2158 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> but the original one never got there
#2159 [23:46] <xales> I'm not sure, but I think hotmail doesn't accept emails from Minecraft
#2160 [23:46] <xales> another wonderful product from Microsoft ._.
#2161 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> ah! :D
#2162 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> hmmm
#2163 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> that doesn't explain why I got a couple of e-mails before about my account activation then
#2164 [23:47] <xales> were the emails from Paypal?
#2165 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> some were
#2166 [23:48] <Robo-Knight> but is there a way I can switch it to yahoo then?
#2167 [23:48] <xales> Not without logging in
#2168 [23:48] <Robo-Knight> gah
#2169 [23:48] <xales> try sending the password by putting in your email instead of username
#2170 [23:49] <Kealper> xales: what was the question?
#2171 [23:49] <Robo-Knight> right, thanks
#2172 [23:49] <xales> Kealper: My bot isn't checking paid status correctly any more, did something change with that?
#2173 [23:49] <Robo-Knight> now it just says, cannot find that user
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#2176 [23:50] <Robo-Knight> any ideas on how I can get my account back then? :/
#2177 [23:50] <xales> Robo-Knight: Your password wasn't something like 'password' or '12345' right?
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#2179 [23:51] <Quetzen> Hello
#2180 [23:51] <Robo-Knight> no :/
#2181 [23:51] <Robo-Knight> I take it that you couldn't get my password for me? -_-;
#2182 [23:52] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2183 [23:52] <Kealper> !paid asdfyhajsgasjdgd
#2184 [23:52] <Kealper> mine works fine
#2185 [23:52] <xales> Robo-Knight: Nope, we are community support, we don't work for Mojang, sorry. You should email daniel@mojang.com
#2186 [23:52] <Robo-Knight> ah, okay then
#2187 [23:52] <Robo-Knight> thanks
#2188 [23:52] <xales> Kealper: Are you using www.minecraft.net or just minecraft.net?
#2189 [23:52] <Quetzen> There's the problem... My friend finally got the game, but he can't join a server, because it says he's not premium. I asked him as much as possible about the details, but it seems he can not log in properly. When he turns the program on, it does not ask for a password. Waht's wrong here?
#2190 [23:52] <Kealper> probably just minecraft.net, i could check though
#2191 [23:53] <xales> Quetzen: Was he using a pirated version before buying the game?
#2192 [23:53] <Quetzen> I don't think so, I made him re-download the software just now, and he still can't.
#2193 [23:54] <Kealper> www.minecraft.net on mine
#2194 [23:54] <Kealper> yours?
#2195 [23:54] <lemon-rev> whats the ip hes trying to log into , and did he delete .minecraft < directory before he resinstalled it
#2196 [23:54] <Clarrisani> !paid Clarrisani
#2197 [23:55] <Clarrisani> That's right.
#2198 [23:55] <AndrewPH> !paid AndrewPH
#2199 [23:55] <EmpiresBane> ...
#2200 [23:55] <xales> Quetzen: Have him do this
#2201 [23:55] <xales> !reinstall
#2202 [23:55] <EmpiresBane> hm...
#2203 [23:56] <EmpiresBane> so... i have no idea how to get minecraft working on Ubuntu
#2204 [23:56] <AndrewPH> hi EmpiresBane
#2205 [23:56] <xales> EmpiresBane: What error are you getting?
#2206 [23:56] <EmpiresBane> wait... let me try the browser version real quick
#2207 [23:56] <Quetzen> How?
#2208 [23:56] <EmpiresBane> minecraft crashes, says something about not being able to get properties
#2209 [23:58] <xales> Quetzen: Give him that link and tell him to follow the instructions to reinstall
#2210 [23:58] <EmpiresBane> well that certainly didn't help
#2211 [23:58] <EmpiresBane> i wonder if this thing has the newest version of java...?
#2212 [23:59] <Miclee> EmpiresBane, have administrator privileges/access to appdata folder?
#2213 [23:59] <Miclee> oic, Ubuntu.
#2214 [23:59] <EmpiresBane> should
#2215 [23:59] <Miclee> Where's the appdata stuff on that?
#2216 [23:59] <EmpiresBane> yeah
#2217 [23:59] <EmpiresBane> idk
#2218 [23:59] <EmpiresBane> just installed it yesterday
#2219 [23:59] <EmpiresBane> and used it for about 5 minutes
#2220 [23:59] <Miclee> From what you said, it's unable to find where your appdata path is located.