#MinecraftHelp > 2011-02-22
#1 [00:01] <aeth|headache> aaand done. Backed the mc documentary. :)
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#3 [00:03] <CoLoN> whats up with the max speed on minecarts :(
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#5 [00:04] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: could you be more specific?
#6 [00:04] <aetherian> I think he is asking why it exists at all
#7 [00:13] <aetherian> anyone here back up the mc doc?
#8 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> come again?
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#10 [00:13] <aetherian> okay
#11 [00:13] <aetherian> anyone here back up the mc doc?
#12 [00:13] <DopeGhoti> Would you care to rephrase that?
#13 [00:14] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: get a hearing aide
#14 [00:14] <DopeGhoti> Aides are expensice.
#15 [00:14] <DopeGhoti> s/ce/ve/
#16 [00:14] <xales> !kick aetherian nou
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#18 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - That was not english you just tpyed
#19 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> damnit
#20 [00:14] <xales> lol
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#22 [00:14] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#23 [00:14] <aetherian> that was random
#24 [00:14] <DopeGhoti> so was your word salad.
#25 [00:14] <aetherian> fine
#26 [00:14] <aetherian> let me rephrase
#27 [00:15] <aetherian> pray, did anybody who doth reside in this here channel back up the minecraft documentary that may or may not be done by 2player?
#28 [00:15] <DopeGhoti> I wasn't aware it was in danger of deletion.
#29 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> forsooth, whence might I find a copy, that I mighteth archive it forthwith?
#30 [00:16] <aetherian> it's in danger of not being funded :O
#31 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2pp/minecraft-the-story-of-mojang
#32 [00:16] <aetherian> have you seen the kickstarter for it, dop?
#33 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> They want.. $⅛M
#34 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> for a _documentary_.
#35 [00:17] <aetherian> http://kck.st/mcdoc for the lazy people
#36 [00:17] <aetherian> and yes, dope
#37 [00:17] <aetherian> back it now >:O
#38 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Or actually
#39 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> http://www.gametrailers.com/video/documentary-hd-minecraft/710788
#40 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Download HD file there
#41 [00:17] * aetherian gave 60 dollars
#41 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> Will there be lasers? Will this get me a gold blue-ray disc?
#42 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, it'll give you the latest in hi-fidelity sound... laserdiscs
#43 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> $⅛M is a stupid-big budget for a docufilm
#44 [00:18] <aetherian> yes well, they need to pay for all the incentives.
#45 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> but sure, I can spare a buck t'morrow.
#46 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> But yeah, you can download the 20minute featurette from gametrailers from that link
#47 [00:19] <aetherian> a buck >:O
#48 [00:19] <aetherian> cheapskate
#49 [00:20] <aetherian> 'sides, for 15, you can get yer name in the credits.
#50 [00:20] <aetherian> of course, for what I did, it'll probably use my fathers name, as it was his card.D;
#51 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Bah, it'll take a week for my RMAed card to get to EVGA... then another week for a replacement to come back
#52 [00:23] * GreyVulpine twitches
#52 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> I neeeeeed mah fix man
#53 [00:23] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: how bad do you need it? Paypal me $200 and I'll overnight you my personal video card.
#54 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#55 [00:24] <xales> lol
#56 [00:24] <aetherian> lol
#57 [00:24] * GreyVulpine makes grabby hands at DopeGhoti.
#57 [00:24] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#58 [00:25] <aetherian> quit the batteru
#59 [00:25] * DopeGhoti goes back to playing Minecraft^Wbrowsing Reddit.
#59 [00:25] <aetherian> battery
#60 [00:25] <DopeGhoti> s/^W/^W^W/
#61 [00:25] * aetherian gets back to watching something
#61 [00:25] <aetherian> and I have a question that will make me look like an imbecile
#62 [00:25] <aetherian> what exactly is the s/.../.../etc
#63 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> And that's different from the norm how?
#64 [00:26] <aetherian> hurrrrr durrrrr
#65 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> s(wap)/this/(with)that/
#66 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> `man sed` for more info
#67 [00:26] * aetherian doesn't want to launch a vm right now
#67 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sed
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#69 [00:28] <anonymous_> where do I go to, if I need to report an immediate issue with minecraft to the dev team?
#70 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Define "an immediate issue"
#71 [00:29] <anonymous_> like, server crash exploit immediate
#72 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, would be tied between emailing daniel, or getting ahold of Notch and the team over twitter
#73 [00:30] <xales> anonymous_: wait around an hour or two, and you can tell mollstam
#74 [00:30] <xales> he's in here
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#76 [00:30] <xales> but not awake yet
#77 [00:30] <EagleYS> Hi
#78 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#89 [00:50] <aetherian> aaaand I just finished watching that thing
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#92 [00:59] <Mourg> I'm having problems with my account is there anyway i can make a new account but not have to pay for the game again?
#93 [00:59] <xales> What's the problem?
#94 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> Mourg: Presently there is not a way to rename an account if that's what you're asking.
#95 [01:00] <Mourg> when i log into minecraft it goes through the first stage of loading and then just goes black in both the browser and from the game client.
#96 [01:01] <xales> That's not an account problem
#97 [01:01] <xales> That's a problem with your computer
#98 [01:01] <xales> <.<
#99 [01:01] <xales> try this
#100 [01:01] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#101 [01:01] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#102 [01:01] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#103 [01:05] <Mourg> same thing...
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#105 [01:06] <xales> ??> Mourg win/dxdiag
#106 [01:06] <VoxelHead> Mourg: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#107 [01:06] <VoxelHead> Mourg: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#109 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Mourg - Did you happen to get an AV warning about a lwjgl.dll file?
#110 [01:07] <Mourg> yes i did get one before and then i shut down the AV
#111 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#112 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> What AV are you using?
#113 [01:07] <Mourg> emnisoft ant-maleware
#114 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> a-squared?
#115 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you go into its quarantine, and restore the lwjgl.dll file
#116 [01:08] <xales> wait, whoa, something other than AVG is doing that?
#117 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Then set an exception for the file that's located at %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#118 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes xales
#119 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> 2nd person today
#120 [01:08] <xales> I thought it was only AVG. oh well
#121 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#122 [01:09] <dreemxweever> i got that too, attempting to fix it now
#123 [01:09] <Mourg> okay one minute
#124 [01:09] <dreemxweever> thanks for the info lol
#125 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#126 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Also, if you could post at:
#127 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? virus
#128 [01:09] <VoxelHead> virus: There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#129 [01:09] <VoxelHead> virus: For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#130 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> That link there, it would help others as well
#131 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Seems AVG's not the only one around experiencing this
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#133 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> indeed not
#134 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> seen postings about Avast as well
#135 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> and something called A²
#136 [01:10] * GreyVulpine nods
#136 [01:13] <Mourg> can't seem to find where to make an exception for it
#137 [01:15] <Mourg> can't browse for the AppData file
#138 [01:16] <dreemxweever> yeah thats my problem too
#139 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> dreemxweever and Mourg: start->run->%AppData%
#140 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> copy the location from the Address par
#141 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> paste into AV file broeser
#142 [01:18] <dreemxweever> theres no place to paste it to
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#144 [01:18] <DopeGhoti> hrm.
#145 [01:19] <dreemxweever> i got it
#146 [01:19] <dreemxweever> with avg you have to add list, not add path
#147 [01:19] <dreemxweever> when adding an exception
#148 [01:20] <dreemxweever> and thats where you paste the address
#149 [01:21] <Mourg> Awesome man! I got it going thanks! :)
#150 [01:21] <dreemxweever> no problem
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#153 [01:25] <saladin1980> hello all
#154 [01:25] <saladin1980> anyone around having problems with servers?
#155 [01:25] <xales> ?? specific
#156 [01:25] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#157 [01:26] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#158 [01:26] <saladin1980> sry when anyone trys to login it stops and then quits server out
#159 [01:27] <saladin1980> and using ALOT more memory than like normal almost 4x more
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#161 [01:27] <xales> is there an error?
#162 [01:28] <saladin1980> no that is the weird thing
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#164 [01:30] <xales> are there any mods on the server?
#165 [01:30] <saladin1980> nope took them all off to test to see if that was it
#166 [01:30] <saladin1980> did they update the server software?
#167 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Not recently
#168 [01:32] <saladin1980> well i think i figured it out:( somehow my world got corrupted in the past 2 hours since i was on it:(
#169 [01:32] <saladin1980> but no sure yet have not put my back up on it
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#172 [01:38] <Tris> started minecraft a few days ago, built out a world, what happens to it with the update? do I start over or have to do something fancy to get the changed things?
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#175 [01:39] <xales> Tris: nothing
#176 [01:39] <xales> you don't need to do anything
#177 [01:40] <Tris> so just gotta get the updated client and things are good
#178 [01:40] <xales> yes - it autoupdates automatically
#179 [01:40] <Tris> whew good, thanks <3
#180 [01:43] <DopeGhoti> Tris: indeed, I don't believe we're getting any new ores or anything (:
#181 [01:51] <TheBix> wheres my update
#182 [01:51] <TheBix> its tuesday
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#184 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> it was slated for *hopefully* Tuesday.
#185 [01:52] <mib_tlhvea> uhh
#186 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> And nowhere did they specify _which_ Tuesday.
#187 [01:52] <mib_tlhvea> anyone have a minecraft server i can join?
#188 [01:52] <mib_tlhvea> :<
#189 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#190 [01:52] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#191 [01:52] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
#192 [01:52] <mib_tlhvea> thanks
#193 [01:52] <mib_tlhvea> :)
#194 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#195 [01:53] <mib_tlhvea> this account has been suspended
#196 [01:53] <mib_tlhvea> and
#197 [01:53] <mib_tlhvea> there's no one in #smp
#198 [01:53] <mib_tlhvea> o_O
#199 [01:54] <xales> there are plenty of people in #smp
#200 [01:54] <xales> you joined #smp;
#201 [01:54] <xales> which is different
#202 [01:54] <DopeGhoti> There's 117 people in #SMP
#203 [01:54] <xales> you probably clicked a link
#204 [01:54] <xales> and mibbit is retarded
#205 [01:54] <xales> and makes them links
#206 [01:54] <mib_tlhvea> sorry
#207 [01:54] <xales> try "/join #smp"
#208 [01:54] <mib_tlhvea> :<
#209 [01:54] <xales> DopeGhoti: I told you to fix that
#210 [01:54] <xales> D:
#211 [01:54] <mib_tlhvea> thanks
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#213 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> ??~ smp/servers|This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/;;You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#214 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> xales: you did; about another FAQ. I think it was #risucraft.
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#216 [02:07] <CoLoN> anyone booster savy?
#217 [02:08] <xales> Kealper is
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#219 [02:15] <DopeGhoti> as am I
#220 [02:16] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
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#222 [02:17] <arensirb> !paid lordbrett10
#223 [02:17] <SinZ> !paid lordbrett10
#224 [02:17] <SinZ> dun like u >:D
#225 [02:19] <arensirb> hm?
#226 [02:21] <aetherian> night
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#234 [02:35] <Ronono974> Hi
#235 [02:35] <xales> hi
#236 [02:35] <Ronono974> is it possible to play Minecraft through a proxy server ?
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#238 [02:36] <xales> possibly - it depends what kind of proxy
#239 [02:36] <xales> you can always play offline, if you are using Beta
#240 [02:36] <Ronono974> I'm at work, all work done; i want to relax a bit, but when i launch the minecraft.exe, it says fatal error occured 4 s3amazonaws.com
#241 [02:36] <Ronono974> Yeah but i dont like to play offline
#242 [02:37] <xales> You would need a SOCKS proxy server
#243 [02:37] <xales> and there aren't really any good public ones
#244 [02:37] <Ronono974> how do i get one of this SOCKS ?
#245 [02:37] <xales> the best thing to do is SSH into a computer (possibly one at home) running Linux, and tunnel that, which creates a SOCKS proxy
#246 [02:38] <xales> you would need to set one up
#247 [02:38] <xales> on a computer, at home possibly, running Linux
#248 [02:38] <SinZ> what
#249 [02:38] <xales> if you want to play online, anyway
#250 [02:38] <SinZ> howto do SOCKS for minecraft?
#251 [02:38] <Ronono974> guees im gonna have to play offline ^^ lol
#252 [02:38] <Ronono974> thanks for information though
#253 [02:38] <SinZ> wait, didn't i have this talk yesterday
#254 [02:39] <xales> Ronono974: To play offline, just copy the .minecraft folder from a computer it works on to the work computer
#255 [02:39] <xales> put it in the same place
#256 [02:39] <xales> you can find it at
#257 [02:39] <xales> ?? win/.minecraft
#258 [02:39] <SinZ> thus is how piracy works =P
#259 [02:39] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#260 [02:39] <Ronono974> okok
#261 [02:41] <TheBix> yay update
#262 [02:41] <TheBix> java update that is
#263 [02:41] <TheBix> SinZ: socks for minecraft?
#264 [02:42] <TheBix> u just gotta enter in the correct command line params, i've done it before
#265 [02:42] <SinZ> gimme the parameters
#266 [02:42] <SinZ> that i can edit
#267 [02:42] <SinZ> i wanna update my script to run minecraft
#268 [02:42] <TheBix> I don't have them now. I wrote of the BAT file that did it.
#269 [02:43] <TheBix> took me a while to figure out
#270 [02:43] <TheBix> but I got it working
#271 [02:46] <Ronono974> did u talk to me SinZ ? sorry if its the case
#272 [02:47] <SinZ> No
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#275 [02:47] <SinZ> haha TheBix
#276 [02:48] <SinZ> found it in 1min
#277 [02:48] <SinZ> =P
#278 [02:48] <Ronono974> what means exactly "fatal error occcured 4 s3.amazonaws.com
#279 [02:48] <TheBix> SinZ: yeah but do you have it working?
#280 [02:48] <SinZ> error connecting to the db server
#281 [02:48] <AG_Elias> You failed to download a skin file from AWS.
#282 [02:48] <SinZ> ehh maybe
#283 [02:48] <TheBix> Ronono974: more info
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#285 [02:48] <Ronono974> how to not fail ?
#286 [02:48] <Ronono974> ^^
#287 [02:49] <TheBix> also SinZ public SOCKS servers are too slow for minecraft because notch sucks so massively at networking
#288 [02:49] <SinZ> TheBix: Private
#289 [02:49] <TheBix> multiplayer servers that is
#290 [02:49] <xales> Ronono974: use internet that doesn't block it
#291 [02:49] <TheBix> Ronono974: what is the full error
#292 [02:49] <SinZ> and i just want to proxy the minecraft.net links
#293 [02:50] <TheBix> does ur filtering system have a vulnerability wherein if DNS isn't used it won't block it
#294 [02:50] <SinZ> iunno
#295 [02:50] <Ronono974> TheBix = failed to launch fatail error occured 4 s3.amazonaws.com
#296 [02:50] <SinZ> netspace block
#297 [02:51] <TheBix> SinZ: try connecting to some blocked website with the IP address
#298 [02:51] <TheBix> Ronono974: yeah more info than that is what I meant
#299 [02:51] <Ronono974> like?
#300 [02:51] <TheBix> is that all it says?
#301 [02:51] <TheBix> and when do you get it?
#302 [02:51] <Ronono974> yes
#303 [02:51] <TheBix> logging in or in a multiplayer server?
#304 [02:51] <Ronono974> logging in
#305 [02:52] <Ronono974> updating minecraft ...
#306 [02:52] <Ronono974> then the fatal error
#307 [02:52] <xales> it's because it's getting blocked
#308 [02:52] <Ronono974> ye im behin a proxy
#309 [02:53] <TheBix> u could try connecting thru a public socks server
#310 [02:53] <TheBix> use the new launcher so ur password isn't sent to it in plain text
#311 [02:54] <Ronono974> cant i force the proxy to autorize the minecraft.exe ?
#312 [02:54] <SinZ> wheres the new launcher
#313 [02:54] <TheBix> Ronono974: wait... elaborate
#314 [02:55] <TheBix> what proxy are you using? one at work/school or another one?
#315 [02:55] <SinZ> Ronono974, where are you doing this?
#316 [02:55] <SinZ> At home, School/work?
#317 [02:55] <Ronono974> im at work
#318 [02:55] <TheBix> SinZ: go download it from the same place again
#319 [02:55] <Ronono974> lol
#320 [02:55] <TheBix> Ronono974: then you'd have to TUNNEL THRU THE FIRE WALL :O (that makes it sound like ur some pro hacker)
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#322 [02:56] <Ronono974> how to i "dig" this tunnel thru the fire wall haha
#323 [02:56] <TheBix> you could use another proxy
#324 [02:56] <Ronono974> do i*
#325 [02:57] <Ronono974> ok im gonna try this
#326 [02:57] <TheBix> as in
#327 [02:57] <TheBix> use a proxy through ur work proxy
#328 [02:58] <Ronono974> and i make a ssh tunnel ?
#329 [02:59] <TheBix> u could use SSH
#330 [02:59] <TheBix> or something use
#331 [02:59] <TheBix> something else*
#332 [02:59] <xales> ssh is really the only way to do that well
#333 [03:00] <Ronono974> the problem will happen when at home, my pc is shutdown
#334 [03:00] <Ronono974> i wont be able to ssh
#335 [03:00] <TheBix> xales: why ONLY ssh?
#336 [03:00] <SinZ> Ronono974 i got ssh tunnel allready =P
#337 [03:01] <TheBix> man
#338 [03:01] <TheBix> ima experiment with this
#339 [03:01] <SinZ> thats how i do stuff at school
#340 [03:01] <SinZ> ssh tunnel the whole time
#341 [03:02] <SinZ> tech isn't gonna block it or something because he uses one himself
#342 [03:02] <SinZ> =P
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#344 [03:02] <TheBix> ima make my own simple proxy protocol for TCP and try sending crap to it
#345 [03:02] <TheBix> till I find something that works thru my schools proxy
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#347 [03:05] <SinZ> i need a new usb =(
#348 [03:06] <SinZ> if it moves slightly, restarts itself
#349 [03:06] <SinZ> and its so long... gravity does it
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#351 [03:07] <Trencher> So how are we supposed to target a player for the /tp in game if there is spaces in it?
#352 [03:07] <Trencher> *in their name
#353 [03:07] <xales> Names can't have spaces
#354 [03:07] <xales> unless you have offline mode turned on
#355 [03:07] <Trencher> i agree
#356 [03:07] <Trencher> and i have offline mode turned on
#357 [03:08] <xales> why?
#358 [03:08] <Trencher> so i can play it without a internet connection
#359 [03:08] <SinZ> but you have a internet connection...
#360 [03:08] <xales> ^
#361 [03:08] <xales> so, you have offline mode turned off so you can connect to a server without having an intenet connection
#362 [03:08] <xales> that makes so much sense
#363 [03:09] <xales> let me guess
#364 [03:09] <xales> you are using a pirated copy
#365 [03:09] <xales> right?
#366 [03:09] <Trencher> no
#367 [03:09] <Trencher> wow
#368 [03:09] <xales> prove it.
#369 [03:09] <SinZ> username?
#370 [03:09] <xales> ^
#371 [03:09] <Trencher> wowwwwww
#372 [03:09] <Trencher> thanks for the help.
#373 [03:09] <TheBix> ha lol
#374 [03:09] <SinZ> Yeh, RUN
#375 [03:09] <SinZ> !paid Trencher
#376 [03:09] <SinZ> 0.o
#377 [03:10] <TheBix> ok maybe he is just pissed with your attitude
#378 [03:10] <SinZ> prob some number after it then?
#379 [03:10] <xales> TheBix: there was no solution anyway
#380 [03:10] <xales> and he was pretty obviously making up something
#381 [03:10] <xales> so
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#383 [03:10] <xales> also
#384 [03:11] <TheBix> !paid TheBix
#385 [03:11] <TheBix> bit slow
#386 [03:11] * GreyVulpine pokes SinZ with: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139147
#386 [03:11] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#387 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> You need one.
#388 [03:11] <xales> if anyone has a problem with the level of service provided by this channel
#389 [03:11] <SinZ> holy...
#390 [03:11] <TheBix> FUCK MY ROUTer
#391 [03:11] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, you got rich tastes
#392 [03:11] <xales> you can write a formal complaint, properly formatted, using formal English
#393 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> :)
#394 [03:11] <xales> and then
#395 [03:11] <xales> file it up your ass
#396 [03:11] <SinZ> because 1tb external hard drives are $99
#397 [03:11] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: I can't click that link because I cant resolve the IP address
#398 [03:11] <TheBix> cuz my router is shit
#399 [03:11] * GreyVulpine snrks
#399 [03:12] <TheBix> I think I told you all didn't i?
#400 [03:12] * fogWraith stops, drops and rolls
#400 [03:12] <SinZ> and thats a $750 500gb
#401 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> But it's USB
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#403 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> All NAND memory man.
#404 [03:12] <TheBix> 750 dollars can eat dick
#405 [03:12] <TheBix> NAND? doesn't that mean it must be powerd.
#406 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> ....?
#407 [03:13] <fogWraith> Hnnnggh, Why does my launcher not have text on those buttons ;/
#408 [03:13] <TheBix> "NAND memory"
#409 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> NAND == nonvolitile memory
#410 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> == what all USB sticks use
#411 [03:13] <xales> well
#412 [03:13] * xales goes to bed
#412 [03:13] <TheBix> lol I know what nonvolitile is
#413 [03:13] <SinZ> HDD memory FTW
#414 [03:14] <SinZ> =P
#415 [03:14] <TheBix> I just didn't know it had the abbrv. NAND
#416 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> ...
#417 [03:14] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#417 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> NAND is just the name of the logic gates that the memory uses.
#418 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Fine SinZ, would you rather this?
#419 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227581
#420 [03:15] <SinZ> NOR Gates are better =P
#421 [03:15] <TheBix> yeah so doesn't it need to be powered GreyVulpine
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#423 [03:15] <TheBix> if it uses NAND bistable circuits?
#424 [03:15] <SinZ> even more expensive GreyVulpine
#425 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> In order for the state to be switched.. yes TheBix.
#426 [03:15] <SinZ> i prefer my 4GB usbs for $10
#427 [03:16] <fogWraith> THAT I would like, nice pick, GreyVulpine :P
#428 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> :)
#429 [03:16] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: then how does it keep the state without power!?!
#430 [03:16] <SinZ> and my external 1TB harddrive
#431 [03:16] * GreyVulpine sighs
#431 [03:16] <fogWraith> It has the battery
#432 [03:16] <TheBix> let me whip up a quick NAND memory circuit in my favourite circuit sim and see if it retains the state without power
#433 [03:16] <fogWraith> And jor machine has a cord attached to it does it not? :P
#434 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> It requires power in order to switch states.
#435 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> not retain them
#436 [03:17] <TheBix> we'll find out
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#439 [03:20] <fogWraith> Minecraaaaaaaaaaft *rages on the launcher & servers*
#440 [03:21] <lemon-rev> mc is down ?
#441 [03:21] <Lauless> i think so
#442 [03:23] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: well a simple NAND latch isn't retaining the state when I remove power in my sim
#443 [03:24] * GreyVulpine facepalms
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#444 [03:24] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: well I am sorry, but I'm afraid not everyone is as incredibly pro as you.
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#446 [03:26] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: seriously what are you facepalming about. You're tearing down my emotions from the inside
#447 [03:27] * GreyVulpine pokes TheBix with http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/how_ssds_work/
#447 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> That should get you started
#448 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Same idea for USB flash memory. It all uses NAND flash
#449 [03:30] <TheBix> How is that a NAND gate?
#450 [03:30] <Ronono974> hi back, sorry it as lunch time
#451 [03:31] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: and yeah I know how flash memory or EEPROM works. But the term NAND gate made me assume we were just talking about NAND latches or something
#452 [03:31] <Ronono974> so, thebix you were telling me about use proxy to pass through my work proxy server, right?
#453 [03:31] <TheBix> ya
#454 [03:31] <TheBix> you could set up SSH at home or some other proxy
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#456 [03:32] <TheBix> do you just want to login to minecraft? If so you could find a public SOCKS server which should work
#457 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> I don't know where you got NAND latches from, but NAND flash memory basically works like NAND logic gates, but they're not one and the same.
#458 [03:32] <TheBix> but it should be too slow to play multiplayer with
#459 [03:32] <Ronono974> i want to login and play multiplayer server
#460 [03:32] <Ronono974> kk
#461 [03:32] <Ronono974> so the best is to Ssh at my home ?
#462 [03:33] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: Latch = Memory. So I assumed NAND memory means NAND latch
#463 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah. um, no
#464 [03:33] <TheBix> Ronono974: ahhh. Yeah you could try it. But it would still be considerably slower
#465 [03:34] <TheBix> considering your home comp is connected to a typical home use internet connection
#466 [03:34] <Ronono974> yep it is
#467 [03:35] <TheBix> yeah that would make it slower
#468 [03:35] <TheBix> you'd better hope that your upload from ur home PC is fast enough to forward messages it downloaded from the server
#469 [03:36] <lemon-rev> is there a update to minecraft or am i just hopeing theres one ?
#470 [03:36] <lemon-rev> appart from the luncher being offical now
#471 [03:36] <TheBix> youd also better hope ur work can handle the traffic anyway since minecraft is programmed so poorly that it uses lots and lots of network traffic
#472 [03:36] <TheBix> lemon-rev: there is one coming soon
#473 [03:36] <TheBix> hopefully within the next 24 hours
#474 [03:37] <lemon-rev> i see, sweet well np, can wait it out, got lots of crap to do on mc atm anyways :)
#475 [03:38] <Ronono974> Ok thanks TheBix for all information, i got some work to do i will come back later maybe ^^
#476 [03:38] <TheBix> I'm hoping its in the next 4 or so hours
#477 [03:38] <TheBix> Ronono974: No problem.
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#479 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/02/22/a-new-daniel-and-a-new-support-system/
#480 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> From now on we will be using Zendesk which has a ticket support system. Hopefully this will make the support much more efficient.
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#482 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - "I know that I have told people to email me directly if they have had issues before, but this is not needed anymore since we have some new support personnel helping us with the account/payment issues :)"
#483 [03:48] <TheBix> omg: http://goldfish.ikaruga.co.uk/logic.html
#484 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Looks like mollstam's got a friend to help him with the backend
#485 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/danfrisk
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#490 [03:59] <MemoryOFF> hey guis
#491 [04:00] <MemoryOFF> i have a problem :D
#492 [04:01] <MemoryOFF> deutsche hir? :D
#493 [04:01] <TheBix> what
#494 [04:03] <MemoryOFF> can you join the game??
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#496 [04:03] <ConMan8> So I was playing Minecraft amd it randomly stopped running and now I can't connect to minecraft.net with the new launcher
#497 [04:04] <MemoryOFF> jes by me too
#498 [04:11] <ConMan8> okay, new launcher is just evil
#499 [04:18] <fogWraith> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/3428176687/server-downtime-and-a-new-launcher/
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#501 [04:23] <tanooki> Getting constant "Can't connect to minecraft.net" -- is there some kind of downtime?
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#505 [04:33] <nc|cYb> hey some here who can help me about texture packs?
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#508 [04:40] <NewDroidOrder> hey there guys
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#510 [04:40] <NewDroidOrder> anyone around that might be able to help me out real quick?
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#512 [04:41] <TheBix> whats the problem
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#514 [04:42] <ConMan8> ?? ask
#515 [04:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#516 [04:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#517 [04:43] <NewDroidOrder> alright so when i try to launch MC from the client it just instantly closes. when i try to play it in the browser it gets stuck at "done loading"
#518 [04:44] <SinZ> Java version?
#519 [04:44] <NewDroidOrder> just updated to be sure that wasnt it
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#521 [04:44] <lotto> hi
#522 [04:44] <NewDroidOrder> im on the latest version
#523 [04:44] <TheBix> u can check the latest text file
#524 [04:44] <SinZ> try deleting the bin folder in .minecraft
#525 [04:44] <TheBix> the one generated on erros
#526 [04:44] <TheBix> errors*
#527 [04:45] <lotto> minecraft server is down ? i can't log me
#528 [04:45] <TheBix> ya
#529 [04:45] <lotto> :s
#530 [04:45] <SinZ> yes, downtime due to database issues
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#532 [04:45] <lotto> oh k
#533 [04:45] <SinZ> there working on it
#534 [04:45] <lotto> do are they working on ?
#535 [04:45] <lotto> k
#536 [04:45] <NewDroidOrder> so try deleing the bin folder u say?
#537 [04:45] <SinZ> yes
#538 [04:46] <SinZ> it will force redownload when servers back up
#539 [04:46] <NewDroidOrder> oh ok so as of right now i wont have any resolution to my problem until the server is back up?
#540 [04:46] <SinZ> yes
#541 [04:46] <NewDroidOrder> alright
#542 [04:46] <SinZ> i'm sorry for the inconvienience
#543 [04:47] <NewDroidOrder> its cool i got other things i can do lol
#544 [04:47] * SinZ trying to sound proper =P
#544 [04:47] <NewDroidOrder> how long has it been down? i saw something on reddit about it a bit ago
#545 [04:47] <nekkutta> Any idea when they might get the server back up?
#546 [04:48] <lotto> if they are working on we hope soon ^^
#547 [04:48] <TheBix> ya u will
#548 [04:48] <TheBix> u could play offline
#549 [04:48] <TheBix> if it were working
#550 [04:48] <NewDroidOrder> lol not without a bin folder!
#551 [04:48] <lotto> when can we know when the server will back up ?
#552 [04:49] <lotto> *where
#553 [04:49] <NewDroidOrder> follow notch on twitter probly
#554 [04:49] <NewDroidOrder> or try every now and then
#555 [04:49] <nekkutta> I'm sitting here watching my friend play offline, and I just bought it and it hasn't had the oppertunity to download for offline play
#556 [04:49] <lotto> lol any link ?
#557 [04:49] <NewDroidOrder> for the twitter?
#558 [04:49] <lotto> i found ^^
#559 [04:49] <NewDroidOrder> excellent
#560 [04:50] <TheBix> NewDroidOrder: u could get it with a browser
#561 [04:50] <NewDroidOrder> thought the server was down?
#562 [04:50] <lotto> y
#563 [04:50] <TheBix> yeah but you could try with a browser
#564 [04:50] <TheBix> you might get in
#565 [04:50] <NewDroidOrder> i stand corrected
#566 [04:50] <NewDroidOrder> downloaded the packages
#567 [04:50] <NewDroidOrder> great. its back to the same problem i first had when trying to play MC
#568 [04:51] <NewDroidOrder> it loads it all up then going to a blank white screen
#569 [04:51] <NewDroidOrder> in the browser that is
#570 [04:52] <NewDroidOrder> great....
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#572 [04:52] <TheBix> oh I meant getting it through requesting the login page and stuff
#573 [04:52] <TheBix> through the browser
#574 [04:52] <TheBix> but okay
#575 [04:53] <NewDroidOrder> yah looks like im out of luck
#576 [04:54] <TheBix> when is this update
#577 [04:55] <SinZ> soon
#578 [04:57] <NewDroidOrder> i just got an error after my MC client closed when trying to play offline
#579 [04:57] <NewDroidOrder> anyone wanna see the pastebin so they can point me in the right direction as to what the problem is
#580 [04:58] <NewDroidOrder> http://pastebin.com/j3rqmJ0L
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#582 [04:59] <SinZ> Minecraft.net is down
#583 [05:00] <TheBix> NewDroidOrder: ahh. Thats not Notch's problem
#584 [05:00] <NewDroidOrder> i figured as much
#585 [05:00] <TheBix> as in its not his shitty code screwing up
#586 [05:00] <NewDroidOrder> however this is pretty much the same thing that happened last time when i first tried playing MC.
#587 [05:01] <TheBix> NewDroidOrder: ok
#588 [05:01] <NewDroidOrder> i think its my fucked up ATI drivers...
#589 [05:01] <TheBix> do you have an ATI graphics card?
#590 [05:01] <NewDroidOrder> HA!
#591 [05:01] <TheBix> re install drivers
#592 [05:01] <NewDroidOrder> exactly
#593 [05:01] <NewDroidOrder> i have been all day long
#594 [05:01] <TheBix> aticfx32.dll is causing the error. I'm assuming thats part of your ATI gfx adapter drivers
#595 [05:01] <NewDroidOrder> the newest drivers broke my BFBC2... :( the screen is just completely scrambled when i try to play
#596 [05:02] <NewDroidOrder> there are some really weird things going on with the newest set of drivers
#597 [05:02] <TheBix> rollback?
#598 [05:02] <NewDroidOrder> just a huge mess
#599 [05:02] <NewDroidOrder> no option to
#600 [05:02] <NewDroidOrder> already looked
#601 [05:03] <NewDroidOrder> these drivers even made it so i cant watch youtube videos on the actual youtube.com i have to play them in a pop out or embeded on another site
#602 [05:03] <NewDroidOrder> how messed up is that right?
#603 [05:03] <TheBix> ah
#604 [05:03] <TheBix> well ati has always been shit
#605 [05:03] <NewDroidOrder> im beggining to see that
#606 [05:04] <TheBix> I've only ever had ATI cards, and they've all been shit.
#607 [05:04] <NewDroidOrder> and it really makes me unhappy
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#609 [05:04] <ChubblyWarner> #help
#610 [05:04] <NewDroidOrder> they really need to get their shit straight
#611 [05:04] <NewDroidOrder> its pissing me off
#612 [05:05] <TheBix> u sure ur installing the right one?
#613 [05:05] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Someone told me about a mod able to modify the biome size, does anyone know which one ?
#614 [05:05] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Can't seem to find it on the forums.
#615 [05:05] <NewDroidOrder> not only did i buy their product, their product is not making me unable to play other products that ive bought
#616 [05:05] <NewDroidOrder> yep
#617 [05:06] <TheBix> ok
#618 [05:06] <NewDroidOrder> ive tried updating my drivers from the actual AMD site. and also from Asus
#619 [05:06] <TheBix> hook ur display up to ur mother board
#620 [05:06] <NewDroidOrder> they seem to be different somehow though
#621 [05:06] <TheBix> restart
#622 [05:06] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I never take the latest bunch of drivers.
#623 [05:06] <TheBix> try that
#624 [05:06] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :They're often cluttered with bugs.
#625 [05:06] <NewDroidOrder> im on a laptop man
#626 [05:06] <TheBix> the fact that you need drivers for hardware is crap.
#627 [05:06] <TheBix> PC should be more standardised
#628 [05:07] <NewDroidOrder> problems problems problems...
#629 [05:09] <NewDroidOrder> when i download the drivers from AMD the Catalyst control center doesnt install. and my screen loses its full resolution so i have a nice 1/4 inch border and i have to correct it by overscanning on my monitor. ( i think mostly everyhing works with this set though, i think BFBC2 worked on this set) when i install the drivers from asus i get the CCC and my screen fits the monitor without
#630 [05:09] <NewDroidOrder> having to overscan... but then it seems like it breaks my BFBC2 and well possibly MC im thinking as well
#631 [05:10] <TheBix> screen drivers or something?
#632 [05:10] <TheBix> I can't believe that monitors sometimes need drivers. wtf.
#633 [05:10] <NewDroidOrder> i checked a long time ago to see if that was the case
#634 [05:10] <NewDroidOrder> and its not from what i think i came out with
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#636 [05:35] <nc|cYb> hey i got a problem about texture pack somebody here?
#637 [05:36] * ConMan8 raises hand
#637 [05:36] <nc|cYb> ...
#638 [05:37] <ConMan8> I'm here.
#639 [05:37] <ConMan8> What's the problem?
#640 [05:39] <nc|cYb> okay ehm i cant install a texture pack. i watched some tutorial on youtube. all guys went to c / user / name / app data and so on.. but i dont have an minecraft folder
#641 [05:39] <nc|cYb> i cant find this folder
#642 [05:39] <nc|cYb> i only have this exe from the homepage but no installed folder
#643 [05:39] <ConMan8> If you haven't logged in you won't have it
#644 [05:40] <nc|cYb> in game?
#645 [05:40] <ConMan8> What OS are you on?
#646 [05:40] <nc|cYb> os?
#647 [05:40] <ConMan8> Operating system, like Windows, Mac, Linux
#648 [05:40] <nc|cYb> win 7
#649 [05:40] <ConMan8> ?? win/.minecraft
#650 [05:40] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#651 [05:41] <nc|cYb> dont found it
#652 [05:41] <ConMan8> It's created when you log into Beta, on the site or in the client
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#654 [05:41] <nc|cYb> i did both
#655 [05:41] <nc|cYb> wait phone^^
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#657 [05:42] <MDanz> what port do i portforward to on a minecraft server?
#658 [05:42] <ConMan8> MDanz: the default is 25565
#659 [05:42] <MDanz> ok thanks
#660 [05:42] <nc|cYb> im back
#661 [05:43] <ConMan8> nc|cYb: And if you're using the old launcher, there's a Texture Packs option
#662 [05:43] <nc|cYb> i can try this
#663 [05:43] <ConMan8> In there there'll be a button that says "open texture pack folder"
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#665 [05:43] <ConMan8> You can just put your texture pack into there as a .zip file
#666 [05:45] <nc|cYb> ok i try it
#667 [05:51] <fogWraith> Darnit, anyone know any stores that sell CPU coolers for ye olde Socket 478?
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#669 [05:54] <SinZ> its called ripping computer apart and having a fan there =P
#670 [05:55] <ConMan8> That doesn't really work
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#672 [06:03] <fogWraith> :|
#673 [06:09] <SinZ> it could if you try =P
#674 [06:09] <SinZ> ConMan8: if the CPU isn't getting used, it wont be warm
#675 [06:09] <fogWraith> It's the first generation P4 with HT tech crap, so it runs *very* hot with the stock cooler
#676 [06:10] <fogWraith> Even when idle, it tops 50-60C
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#693 [06:46] <LuckyMonkey> Hello I was wondering if anybody could tell me what class file tells the launcher to go to the tumblr website and what I would need to change in order to make that a different website
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#707 [07:54] <ItsCriminal> i like the new launcher :D
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#716 [08:31] <ShoxX> wer kan mir helfen
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#718 [08:31] <Mylo> hi
#719 [08:31] <ShoxX> brauche dringen holfe
#720 [08:31] <ShoxX> hilfe
#721 [08:31] <Mylo> ik och xP
#722 [08:32] <Mylo> :)
#723 [08:32] <mirco> too
#724 [08:32] <ShoxX> brauch admins auf server wie geht das weist du das vlt
#725 [08:32] <mirco> jop
#726 [08:32] <ShoxX> wie den :)
#727 [08:32] <ShoxX> brauch ich einen admin mod
#728 [08:32] <mirco> welche software nutzt du ? bukkit standart ?
#729 [08:32] <ShoxX> waaas
#730 [08:33] <ShoxX> auf windows
#731 [08:33] <ShoxX> Minecraft server hab noch keine ahnung von sowas
#732 [08:33] <mirco> hast du den server von minecraft.net
#733 [08:33] <mirco> ?
#734 [08:33] <ShoxX> ne
#735 [08:33] <ShoxX> den server hab ich von kollegen
#736 [08:33] <mirco> nimmst du bukkit, hmod ?
#737 [08:33] <ShoxX> ich hab garkein mod drauf alles standart
#738 [08:34] <Mylo> frage: wie kan man den modloader von mo´s craturen oda so installen ( glaube der hies risugamis modloader ) =
#739 [08:34] <mirco> also ist es der standart server von minecraft.net
#740 [08:35] <Mylo> ??
#741 [08:37] <ShoxX> ne ein gecrackter
#742 [08:37] <ShoxX> also nicht original
#743 [08:37] <Mylo> ...
#744 [08:38] <ShoxX> ja kannste mir nun helfen
#745 [08:38] <ShoxX> ich mein den admin mit /give tnt 20
#746 [08:41] <ShoxX> ????????
#747 [08:43] <ShoxX> ach fick dich du hurensohn
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#750 [08:49] <Mylo> hmm
#751 [08:50] <Mylo> kann mir wer helfen?
#752 [08:50] <Mylo> ....
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#754 [08:57] <ItsCriminal> Mylo
#755 [08:57] <ItsCriminal> was los?
#756 [08:57] <Mylo> endlich
#757 [08:57] <Mylo> so
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#760 [08:57] <Mylo> habe problem mit modloader
#761 [08:57] <ItsCriminal> modloader moment ich muss studieren :D
#762 [08:58] <Mylo> habe den in die jar datei rein aber jetzt tuts immer wenn ich minecraft starte nach laden und login immer blackscreen
#763 [08:58] <Adam89> Hi! I came here to se if theres anyone here with experience in hosting servers?
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#765 [08:58] <ItsCriminal> Mylo dann denke ich das was mit der kompatibilität der jar was zu tun hat
#766 [08:58] <ItsCriminal> Adam89 what exactly you need?
#767 [08:58] <Mylo> wie?
#768 [08:59] <Mylo> also ich habe minecraft 1.2.2.
#769 [08:59] <ItsCriminal> kann sein das die als du die in den modloader rein gepfeffert hast gefailed is
#770 [08:59] <Mylo> und was?
#771 [08:59] <Mylo> hab schon tausende anleitungen gelesen...
#772 [08:59] <Mylo> xP
#773 [08:59] <ItsCriminal> das weiss ich nicht, java is en bissel komisch
#774 [08:59] <ItsCriminal> da kann immer mal was schieflaufen :D
#775 [08:59] <Mylo> hast du den drin?
#776 [09:00] <ItsCriminal> ich nicht ich lese gerade was das genau is ich hab Vanilla server wie auch Vanilla client :D
#777 [09:00] <Mylo> xP
#778 [09:00] <ItsCriminal> sag mal welcher mod isses?
#779 [09:00] <Mylo> hmm habe alpha version - denke ich
#780 [09:00] <Mylo> mmom
#781 [09:01] <Mylo> ModLoader Beta 1.2_02v2
#782 [09:01] <Mylo> und der war bei Mo´s Craturen
#783 [09:01] <Mylo> *Creaturen
#784 [09:01] <ItsCriminal> ok gut das is der aktuelle
#785 [09:01] <ItsCriminal> und der klappt nicht wie er soll oder läd der dir keine modificationen ?
#786 [09:02] <Mylo> also habe die jar data geöffnet
#787 [09:02] <Mylo> dann des tzeug rein
#788 [09:02] <Mylo> und meta inf gelöscht
#789 [09:02] <Mylo> jetzt starte ich minecraft
#790 [09:03] <Mylo> und dann kommt
#791 [09:03] <Mylo> login das klappt , dann läds und dann is aufeinmal
#792 [09:03] <Mylo> blackscreen
#793 [09:03] <ItsCriminal> ok moment ich teste das auch mal schnell um zu sehen was man da machen kann
#794 [09:03] <Mylo> k
#795 [09:04] <ItsCriminal> ok so ich hab das gerade mal gemacht ich kann starten, login geht auch und kann auch single wie multiplayer spielen
#796 [09:05] <Mylo> hmm
#797 [09:05] <Mylo> was mache ich nur falsch
#798 [09:05] <ItsCriminal> sag mal hast du original ?
#799 [09:05] <Mylo> hast du skype?
#800 [09:05] <Mylo> alpha
#801 [09:05] <Mylo> 1.2.2
#802 [09:05] <ItsCriminal> ItsCriminal
#803 [09:05] <Mylo> ?
#804 [09:05] <ItsCriminal> skype ^^
#805 [09:05] <Mylo> aso
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#812 [09:13] <Adam89> anyone here with experince in setting up own MC serer? please PM me :)
#813 [09:13] <BarryCarlyon> Adam89: whats the problem.
#814 [09:13] <Adam89> I get an error in the server log when trying to connect
#815 [09:14] <Adam89> 1 sec let me copy it
#816 [09:14] <Adam89> [INFO] /192.168.0.100:62983 lost connection
#817 [09:14] <Adam89> (thats me trying to connect to my own server)
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#819 [09:14] <Adam89> And i have port forwarded port 25565
#820 [09:14] <BarryCarlyon> Whats the client error?
#821 [09:14] <Adam89> fail to connect, connection timed out
#822 [09:15] <Jero> I can connect to minecraft on minecraft.net but not in the launcher is there anyway to solve this?
#823 [09:15] <BarryCarlyon> Adam89: not sure then.
#824 [09:15] <Adam89> Hmm okay
#825 [09:16] <Adam89> The same thing when friends try to connect also
#826 [09:16] <Adam89> Portforward says my port is open
#827 [09:17] <Adam89> No ideas?
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#829 [09:20] <boabyjoaby> not sure if i came to the right place :S
#830 [09:21] <boabyjoaby> i play the free version using firefox and my keys don't work, I can't move or jump or open inventory. What do?
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#837 [09:33] <Jero> I can connect to minecraft on minecraft.net but not in the launcher is there anyway to solve this?
#838 [09:34] <BarryCarlyon> !down minecraft.net
#839 [09:35] <BarryCarlyon> Looks like mc.net is having problems according to the notch blog.
#840 [09:35] <BarryCarlyon> So there is nothing you can do until the servers start working properly.
#841 [09:36] <feenyx> check his twitter regularly for updates
#842 [09:45] <GreyHatSalafi> Jero are you using the new launcher by chance?
#843 [09:46] <Jero> yes
#844 [09:47] <GreyHatSalafi> use the old one
#845 [09:47] <GreyHatSalafi> it still works
#846 [09:47] <GreyHatSalafi> just tried
#847 [09:47] <GreyHatSalafi> it
#848 [09:47] <Jero> cheers
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#850 [09:47] <GreyHatSalafi> np
#851 [09:48] <Jero> where can i download the old launcher
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#855 [10:00] <Anthro> howdy
#856 [10:01] <Anthro> so will deleting my .minecraft folder delete my saved worlds as well?
#857 [10:01] <Anthro> xales? grey?
#858 [10:04] <Jero> yes
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#861 [10:05] <sproing> I am on an ubuntu computer, and i just updated java. It still won't run. i restarted my browser and all i get is a black screen whenever i try to play
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#864 [10:07] <Anthro> yes what?
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#868 [10:23] <RiffRaff> hi
#869 [10:24] <RiffRaff> someone knows how i can block an area so noone can edit it?
#870 [10:24] <xolotl> RiffRaff: On the vanilla server, the only chunk that behaves like that is the spawn chunk
#871 [10:25] <xolotl> RiffRaff: To protect any other areas you'd have to use mods (so see #bukkit)
#872 [10:25] <RiffRaff> ah, ok thx
#873 [10:25] <xolotl> (note that ops could still alter the spawn chunk, on vanilla)
#874 [10:25] <RiffRaff> what means vanilla?
#875 [10:29] <xolotl> Vanilla just means the basic server, without any mods
#876 [10:29] <RiffRaff> ah ok :)
#877 [10:29] <RiffRaff> thx a lot
#878 [10:29] <xolotl> np
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#880 [10:42] <fogWraith> Arf!
#881 [10:43] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine, wake me up sometime in August
#882 [10:43] <dopeghoti> There's an app for that.
#883 [10:44] <fogWraith> There is?
#884 [10:44] <dopeghoti> "Calendar"?
#885 [10:44] <fogWraith> But if I go to sleep, how will a calendar help me wake up in august?
#886 [10:46] <dopeghoti> Set an appointment with a reminder. Make the reminder 'Rammstein - Sonne.ogg'.
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#888 [10:46] <fogWraith> Couldn't of have picked a better song? :P
#889 [10:46] <fogWraith> I want Dead Island now, not in August ;/
#890 [10:46] <dopeghoti> "couldn't have"
#891 [10:47] <dopeghoti> and I was aiming for loud.
#892 [10:48] <fogWraith> Don't correct me, I'm allowed poor grammar seeing as I'm not from Americaland!
#893 [10:48] <fogWraith> Rawr
#894 [10:49] <feenyx> erm
#895 [10:49] <feenyx> it's the other way around
#896 [10:49] <feenyx> or rather, nobody SHOULD have poor grammar, but I find that most non-Americans have better grammar than alot of Americans
#897 [10:50] * fogWraith blames school for not being interesting enough
#897 [10:50] * feenyx agrees with fogWraith
#897 [10:50] * fogWraith learneded the language english of speak from tv
#897 [10:50] <feenyx> same here
#898 [10:51] <fogWraith> Cartoons <3
#899 [10:51] <feenyx> according to my parents, I knew English words already in kindergarden
#900 [10:51] <feenyx> gotta love TCC
#901 [10:51] <feenyx> and later, Cartoon Network
#902 [10:52] <dopeghoti> This just in: Mojang relents and goes with a support/ticket system that sucks less than getsatisfaction!
#903 [10:52] <fogWraith> And of course, the sheity programs you watched when there was nothing else to watch... dallas, seventh heaven, days of our lives
#904 [10:53] <fogWraith> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqrG1bdGtg
#905 [10:53] <fogWraith> Om nom nom
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#914 [11:37] <mib_pe9tbx> Hi all. I have a question: i just purchased Minecraft, but i can't download it.. Do you know why and what i have to do? Thanks
#915 [11:38] <Kealper> well, where are you trying to download it from?
#916 [11:38] <mib_pe9tbx> From : http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#917 [11:41] <Kealper> sorry, i'm pretty busy in the mornings...back for a few minutes
#918 [11:42] <Kealper> ok, what OS are you using? windows?
#919 [11:42] <mib_pe9tbx> yes
#920 [11:42] <Kealper> and you tried downloading that Minecraft.exe that it links to on that page?
#921 [11:42] <mib_pe9tbx> yes
#922 [11:43] <Kealper> what happens when you run it?
#923 [11:44] <mib_pe9tbx> i have a new window "minecraft launcher", i try to log in, but i can't
#924 [11:45] <Kealper> ok, what does it tell you when you go to log in?
#925 [11:46] <mib_pe9tbx> ... -_- that works now.. lol
#926 [11:46] <mib_pe9tbx> thank you anyway!
#927 [11:46] <Kealper> best problems are the ones that resolve themselves :P
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#929 [11:47] <Poinball> Hi
#930 [11:47] <Kealper> hi
#931 [11:47] <Poinball> The update will come today ?
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#933 [11:47] <Kealper> Jeb has said it still looks like they can release it today, yes
#934 [11:48] <Poinball> Nice :D
#935 [11:48] <Poinball> this will be the 1.3 ?
#936 [11:48] <Kealper> ok, i'm afk for a few hours
#937 [11:49] <Kealper> and yes, beta 1.3
#938 [11:49] <Poinball> oh ok ty ;)
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#941 [11:53] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> Hey, do you know a way, how to edit some "items" (boats!) on my map with McEdit?
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#943 [11:54] <Mathuin> I figured out two problems with my code this morning while in the shower. Does this happen to anyone else or just me?
#944 [11:55] <gothroach> It happens to me too; unfortunately my inspiration is normally forgotten by the end of said shower.
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#946 [11:57] <luke0202> hello?
#947 [11:57] <Mathuin> That happens to me too, but this time I remembered them both.
#948 [11:57] <xales> hi
#949 [11:57] <luke0202> i cant download the new loader :/
#950 [11:57] <luke0202> AccessDeniedAccess DeniedE86044BB1CD890F5ZO7snRkoeFpChz9qd5wlnTTxJnYiv6m1GMbXIWdZQgUA+H2j6sBMzos98s2Xeh2Q
#951 [11:57] <luke0202> that comes up
#952 [11:57] <Mathuin> Goodness.
#953 [11:58] <xales> where did you find the download link?
#954 [11:58] <luke0202> tumblr
#955 [11:58] <luke0202> well
#956 [11:58] <luke0202> the main site :S
#957 [11:58] <luke0202> tumblr took me to the main site, i wanted to donwload minecraft.exe and that comes up :/
#958 [11:58] <Mathuin> I was hoping running the downloaded Minecraft.jar would get me to download the launcher. No luck.
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#960 [11:59] <xales> it doesn't been to be working, so I guess just wait until it gets fixed
#961 [11:59] <luke0202> i cant download any links
#962 [11:59] <luke0202> also i cant in browser :/
#963 [11:59] <sansa11> germans here?
#964 [11:59] <sansa11> have a problem xD
#965 [11:59] <xales> sansa11: what is the problem?
#966 [12:00] <xales> luke0202: can't what in the browser?
#967 [12:00] <luke0202> beta
#968 [12:00] <sansa11> i bought minecraft with ehmm.. dont no with "lastschrift"
#969 [12:00] <sansa11> know*
#970 [12:00] <xales> ok
#971 [12:00] <sansa11> i dont know how to say it in english xD
#972 [12:01] <xales> google says "direct debit"
#973 [12:01] <sansa11> yes and my account isnt premium^^
#974 [12:01] <xales> how long ago?
#975 [12:01] <sansa11> ehm 20 minutes?
#976 [12:01] <sansa11> 15? xD
#977 [12:01] <xales> it's been known to take an hour or two
#978 [12:01] <luke0202> yeah, can you upload your .exe please? :)
#979 [12:01] <luke0202> the one on site doesnt work
#980 [12:02] <sansa11> ah okay :D
#981 [12:02] <xales> if it's not premium in a few hours, email payment@mojang.com
#982 [12:02] <luke0202> it told me to delete my minecraft.exe and install the new loader
#983 [12:02] <luke0202> and the new loader doesnt download
#984 [12:02] <luke0202> AccessDeniedAccess DeniedE86044BB1CD890F5ZO7snRkoeFpChz9qd5wlnTTxJnYiv6m1GMbXIWdZQgUA+H2j6sBMzos98s2Xeh2Q
#985 [12:02] <sansa11> okay thanx :>
#986 [12:02] <luke0202> that comes out on the HTML screen ><
#987 [12:03] <xales> luke0202: unfortunately I can't really do that, because distributing any part of the game is illegal =/
#988 [12:03] <luke0202> so i pay for a game i cant even play? yeah okay....
#989 [12:03] <xales> it'll be fixed soon though, so just be patient or play in the browser
#990 [12:03] <Mathuin> luke0202: they will fix it. be patient, or ask for a refund if you paid less than a week ago.
#991 [12:03] <luke0202> i CANT play in browser
#992 [12:03] <xales> It's not a problem with Minecraft/Mojang (it's on Amazon's side of things)
#993 [12:03] <xales> luke0202: why can't you?
#994 [12:03] <luke0202> because the screen
#995 [12:04] <luke0202> gets stuck at
#996 [12:04] <luke0202> "done loading"
#997 [12:04] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#998 [12:04] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#999 [12:04] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1000 [12:04] <luke0202> done that
#1001 [12:04] <luke0202> doesnt work
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#1003 [12:04] <xales> what browser are you using?
#1004 [12:04] <InS4Ne> Hello
#1005 [12:04] <xales> hi
#1006 [12:04] <luke0202> chrome
#1007 [12:04] <luke0202> and ive tried explorer
#1008 [12:04] <luke0202> and oprea
#1009 [12:04] <luke0202> and ie8
#1010 [12:05] <sansa11> firefox? :D
#1011 [12:05] <luke0202> all im asking for is a mirror upload :/ which the site should already have incase something goes down
#1012 [12:05] <luke0202> firefox doesnt currently work at the moment
#1013 [12:05] <luke0202> with the java update/flash update
#1014 [12:05] <xales> okay...well, there isn't much you can do, just be patient until it gets fixed. it didn't say anywhere to delete anything.
#1015 [12:05] <sansa11> okay :D
#1016 [12:05] <InS4Ne> i have buy minecraft for about 20 min with Visa an i didnt have premuim a friend have buy it an i have the minecraft premuim account now
#1017 [12:05] <luke0202> someone told me too .....
#1018 [12:05] <xales> anyway, the game is in beta; you can't reasonably expect things to work 100%
#1019 [12:06] <xales> "someone"
#1020 [12:06] <xales> very reliable information
#1021 [12:06] <luke0202> like, im getting annoyed, because it is not that hard to upload your loader
#1022 [12:06] <luke0202> to mediafire
#1023 [12:06] <xales> It is illegal
#1024 [12:06] <luke0202> mediafire = pc world uploading site
#1025 [12:06] <luke0202> its a MIRROR
#1026 [12:06] <xales> no, it's not
#1027 [12:06] <luke0202> if you look up mediafire
#1028 [12:06] <luke0202> they dont distribute any illegal files
#1029 [12:06] <luke0202> and its just for convinence
#1030 [12:06] <luke0202> and i HAVE paid for the game
#1031 [12:06] <xales> if I was authorized by Mojang to upload it, then yes
#1032 [12:06] <luke0202> i can log in on the site and send you a screenie
#1033 [12:06] <xales> but I am not
#1034 [12:06] <xales> congratulations
#1035 [12:06] <luke0202> so i pay for a game
#1036 [12:06] <xales> the game is in beta
#1037 [12:06] <luke0202> that sits there and does nothing
#1038 [12:06] <xales> expect it to not work
#1039 [12:07] <luke0202> when there is an easy solution
#1040 [12:07] <InS4Ne> i have buy minecraft for about 20 min with Visa an i didnt have premuim a friend have buy it an i have the minecraft premuim account now
#1041 [12:07] <luke0202> but you wont do it
#1042 [12:07] <xales> InS4Ne: Just wait a little bit
#1043 [12:07] <xales> luke0202: what the fuck do you not understand about it being illegal
#1044 [12:07] <luke0202> also, if you get into trouble ill say its all me
#1045 [12:07] <luke0202> and i will get sued
#1046 [12:07] <xales> if you keep whining, you will be removed from the channel
#1047 [12:07] <InS4Ne> ok my friend have buy it and i have the account 1 min .. oO
#1048 [12:07] <Mathuin> I now understand why ops are needed.
#1049 [12:07] <luke0202> what the fuck do you understand i HAVE an account i dont have the loader because Mojang servers are down
#1050 [12:07] <luke0202> and have been for two days
#1051 [12:07] <luke0202> i aint waiting anymore, its bullshit
#1052 [12:08] <luke0202> easy simple, upload mediafire = send file = download = done
#1053 [12:08] * xales kicked luke0202 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Complaining about a game in beta being down for two days, and asking for an illegal solution. Damn, you're smart)
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#1055 [12:08] <luke0202> are you that braindead?
#1056 [12:08] <luke0202> really
#1057 [12:08] <xales> InS4Ne: It just might take a few minutes, it's not always instant
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#1059 [12:08] <AG_Scott> I think it actually says on the client "Do not distribute."
#1060 [12:08] <xales> ^
#1061 [12:08] <xales> it does.
#1062 [12:08] <Mathuin> AG_Scott: right there where you log in.
#1063 [12:08] <Mathuin> Copyright Mojang AB. etc.
#1064 [12:09] <Mathuin> For all he knows, each copy could be signed by the account holder, an dyou could be identified specifically.
#1065 [12:09] <Mathuin> But he doesn't caaaare. :-P
#1066 [12:09] <AG_Scott> MIRRORSITEMAN
#1067 [12:10] <Mathuin> For what it's worth, he did have a point with regard to the need for a mirror site. Is that being looked at?
#1068 [12:10] <xales> Mathuin: It's on a CDN
#1069 [12:10] <xales> there is no need for a mirror
#1070 [12:10] <xales> Amazon isn't supposed to break
#1071 [12:10] <xales> but
#1072 [12:10] <xales> Amazon sucks
#1073 [12:10] <AG_Scott> Amazon has a very high SLA
#1074 [12:10] <Mathuin> xales: and because Amazon is broken and has been for a while, there's a need for a mirror.
#1075 [12:10] <AG_Scott> Mathuin, it's not Amazon.
#1076 [12:10] <Mathuin> If your CDN is not D'ing any C...
#1077 [12:11] <AG_Scott> The issues don't reside in Amazon.
#1078 [12:11] <Mathuin> Where are the issues? I haven't seen a formal description of the problem.
#1079 [12:11] <gothroach> S3 is performing fine, at least :D
#1080 [12:11] <Mathuin> (I worked for the company that made the machines that S3 originally ran on)
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#1083 [12:12] <xales> oh wow
#1084 [12:12] <xales> I just...haaaahhaa
#1085 [12:12] <vegas2> hello
#1086 [12:12] <xales> or not
#1087 [12:12] <xales> hi vegas2
#1088 [12:12] <xales> Mathuin: the download just worked :P
#1089 [12:12] <vegas2> i was wondering, I downloaded a texture pack
#1090 [12:12] <vegas2> but cant seem to get it on
#1091 [12:13] <Mathuin> xales: Awesome. Just bloody awesome. :-) :-) :-)
#1092 [12:13] <xales> vegas2: does it not show up in the list?
#1093 [12:14] <vegas2> its in the minecraft folder
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#1095 [12:15] <vegas2> but when I go to game, and open the texture packs, i asks me to choose a program to open it with
#1096 [12:17] <vegas2> what do I do?
#1097 [12:17] <sansa11> damn i want to play the game :S
#1098 [12:18] <Mathuin> Patience is a virtue. Cruise the forums to get ideas on neat things to do in the game.
#1099 [12:19] <xales> vegas2: you put it in the texturepacks folder?
#1100 [12:20] <Voki> update omes
#1101 [12:20] <vegas2> yes
#1102 [12:21] <vegas2> i guess I need winRAWR
#1103 [12:21] <vegas2> RAR*
#1104 [12:21] <xales> no
#1105 [12:21] <xales> it needs to be a .zip
#1106 [12:21] <vegas2> http://www.mediafire.com/file/5qqxry7kr ... LOWERS.rar
#1107 [12:21] <xales> oh
#1108 [12:21] <vegas2> thats the link I downloaded from
#1109 [12:21] <xales> then you need to extract the files from it and put them into a .zip
#1110 [12:22] <xales> I'm not sure what the hell would make someone distribute that as a .rar when it should be .zip
#1111 [12:23] <InS4Ne> how long must I wait for premuim ?
#1112 [12:24] <xales> InS4Ne: Wait one day, then send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1113 [12:24] <InS4Ne> ok my friend have buy an 1 minute i have the account :D
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#1116 [12:27] <khalob> umm hi
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#1118 [12:28] <Mathuin> And I'm testing the nodata fix. Woo.
#1119 [12:28] <Mathuin> khalob: Hi.
#1120 [12:28] <vegas2> when I go to AppData, and then minecraft, it will not let me open the minecraft jar folder
#1121 [12:28] <khalob> how do i use this irc thing to talk to peopole on my server?
#1122 [12:28] <Mathuin> khalob: You cannot use IRC to talk to your fellow minecraft players.
#1123 [12:28] <khalob> really?
#1124 [12:28] <Mathuin> To talk to them while in the game, hit 't', and then type and hit return.
#1125 [12:28] <khalob> i have seen it on servers though
#1126 [12:29] <vegas2> why wont it let me
#1127 [12:29] <khalob> {IRC} khalob1: then it would say there message here
#1128 [12:29] <xales> vegas2: define "will not let me"?
#1129 [12:29] <xales> khalob: you would have to use a bot program and a server mod
#1130 [12:29] <xales> ask in #bukkit
#1131 [12:29] <khalob> oh
#1132 [12:30] <khalob> ok
#1133 [12:30] <khalob> thanks
#1134 [12:30] <vegas2> when i open it I get: failed to load main class manifest
#1135 [12:30] <xales> vegas2: you are opening the .jar
#1136 [12:30] <xales> you shouldn't do that
#1137 [12:30] <xales> you just put the texturepack files in the texturepack folder
#1138 [12:30] <vegas2> its in there
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#1140 [12:30] <xales> vegas2: is it a .zip?
#1141 [12:32] <ItsCriminal> how to update server to 1.3?
#1142 [12:32] <vegas2> no
#1143 [12:32] <vegas2> its rar
#1144 [12:32] <vegas2> how do u convert it?
#1145 [12:33] <xales> you need to extract it
#1146 [12:33] <xales> then re-zip it
#1147 [12:33] <vegas2> i did
#1148 [12:33] <xales> ItsCriminal: just redownload the server software
#1149 [12:33] <xales> vegas2: as a .zip?
#1150 [12:33] <ItsCriminal> i do now
#1151 [12:34] <ItsCriminal> dosnt worked
#1152 [12:34] <xales> are you using the .exe?
#1153 [12:34] <ItsCriminal> jar
#1154 [12:34] <ItsCriminal> linux server
#1155 [12:35] <xales> did you download it again from minecraft.net and replace the old one?
#1156 [12:35] <ItsCriminal> yes
#1157 [12:35] <vegas2> im sorry Im retarded lol how do I extract to a zip?
#1158 [12:35] <ItsCriminal> well do it again :D
#1159 [12:35] <xales> vegas2: can you give me the URL of where you found it (forum?)
#1160 [12:35] <ItsCriminal> it still says wrong version
#1161 [12:36] <vegas2> http://www.mediafire.com/file/5qqxry7kr ... LOWERS.rar
#1162 [12:36] <ItsCriminal> 1.2_2
#1163 [12:36] <ItsCriminal> ups no 1.2_1
#1164 [12:36] <xales> vegas2: no, where did you find that link
#1165 [12:36] <gerzel> Hey is anyone else still having trouble with sound working right when running Minecraft on linux? I'm using ubuntu 10.10
#1166 [12:36] <xales> ItsCriminal: just wait a little bit then
#1167 [12:36] <ItsCriminal> ok damn ^^ my people wanna play :D
#1168 [12:36] <xales> gerzel: does it just not work at all?
#1169 [12:37] <gerzel> Xales: No it works, but it plays every sound with an echo and there is a lot of static. It also causes other music sources to mess up in the same way.
#1170 [12:37] <xales> gerzel: is the computer a laptop?
#1171 [12:37] <vegas2> on seananners youtube page lol
#1172 [12:37] <gerzel> Quitting minecraft fixes the problem. Also turning off the sound and restarting fixes it. The computer is a desktop w
#1173 [12:38] <sansa11> minecraft.net down?
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#1175 [12:38] <ItsCriminal> i need server file
#1176 [12:38] <ItsCriminal> :DDD
#1177 [12:38] <xales> sansa11: no
#1178 [12:39] <xales> ItsCriminal: just wait ._.
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#1180 [12:39] <xales> vegas2: can you give me a link to that
#1181 [12:39] <vegas2> i got it
#1182 [12:39] <ItsCriminal> i would just i cant i have to go :D
#1183 [12:39] <vegas2> it works not
#1184 [12:39] <sansa11> ô.o Web Server's Default Page This page is generated by Parallels Plesk Panel, the leading hosting automation software. You see this page because there is no Web site at this address.
#1185 [12:39] <vegas2> put it in the bin
#1186 [12:39] <xales> sansa11: are you using a pirated version? it sounds like it.
#1187 [12:40] <xales> vegas2: can you give me a link to seananners youtube page with that link
#1188 [12:40] <sansa11> i bought it 40 minutes ago..
#1189 [12:40] <xales> sansa11: did you use a pirated version?
#1190 [12:40] <vegas2> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=25676
#1191 [12:41] <xales> vegas2: that texture pack won't work
#1192 [12:41] <vegas2> it works if you place it in the minecraft jar
#1193 [12:41] <xales> it's too old
#1194 [12:41] <vegas2> well its working right now
#1195 [12:41] <xales> not updated to work with it
#1196 [12:41] <vegas2> im playing now with it
#1197 [12:41] <xales> okay...
#1198 [12:41] <xales> then what do you need help with <.<
#1199 [12:41] <sansa11> i bought it..
#1200 [12:42] <xales> sansa11: what is your username then
#1201 [12:42] <sansa11> sansa11..
#1202 [12:42] <xales> sansa11: your account is not marked premium yet
#1203 [12:42] <sansa11> i know
#1204 [12:42] <xales> did you, at any point, use a pirated version, or try to
#1205 [12:43] <sansa11> is it so important ? i bought it now xD
#1206 [12:43] <xales> it is.
#1207 [12:43] <xales> did you, or not
#1208 [12:43] <sansa11> yes but i want to play it legal >.<
#1209 [12:44] <vegas2> i got it as we were looking
#1210 [12:44] <xales> ??> sansa11 win/hosts
#1211 [12:44] <VoxelHead> sansa11: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1212 [12:44] <VoxelHead> sansa11: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1213 [12:44] <xales> pastebin is http://pastebin.com/
#1214 [12:45] <sansa11> should i do this?
#1215 [12:45] <xales> why else would I give you the instructions for it
#1216 [12:45] <xales> yes, you should.
#1217 [12:45] <sansa11> xD okay w8^^
#1218 [12:47] <sansa11> all in the hosts fall?
#1219 [12:47] <xales> yes
#1220 [12:48] <sansa11> than submit?
#1221 [12:48] <xales> yes
#1222 [12:49] <xales> and paste the link in here that it sent you to
#1223 [12:49] <InS4Ne> i have now premuim :) (Y)
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#1225 [12:49] <xales> InS4Ne: :)
#1226 [12:49] <Ikikay> Help, I can't conect to MY servers...
#1227 [12:50] <xales> ?? specific
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#1229 [12:50] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1230 [12:50] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1231 [12:50] <Ikikay> It say Outdated server!
#1232 [12:50] <InS4Ne> thank you anyway
#1233 [12:50] <Hovertac> HI
#1234 [12:50] <xales> Ikikay: ...did you update the server?
#1235 [12:50] <xales> hi Hovertac
#1236 [12:50] <Hovertac> Where can I go about of converting my maps to the new file system?
#1237 [12:50] <sansa11> what do you do with the hosts content? ^^
#1238 [12:50] <Ikikay> Not the server
#1239 [12:50] <Ikikay> only my client ...
#1240 [12:50] <xales> Hovertac: just in the game itself
#1241 [12:51] <xales> sansa11: I need it to undo the changes the pirated version did so the game actually works
#1242 [12:51] <Hovertac> So.. just play the map?
#1243 [12:51] <xales> Hovertac: yes
#1244 [12:51] <xales> Ikikay: you need to update the server
#1245 [12:51] <Hovertac> Oh wow. That's easier than I thought. Thanks!
#1246 [12:51] <sansa11> okay ^^
#1247 [12:51] <sansa11> http://pastebin.com/9jR9bSg6
#1248 [12:51] <Ikikay> really, but why my friends can conect ?!?!
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#1250 [12:52] <xales> Ikikay: peobably because they haven't updated...
#1251 [12:52] <Ikikay> How have they do for update ?
#1252 [12:52] <xales> Ikikay: what?
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#1254 [12:53] <sansa11> my .minecraft is empty.. ^^
#1255 [12:53] <xales> sansa11: press Win+R keys again, and type 'cmd' in that box
#1256 [12:53] <sansa11> now
#1257 [12:53] <xales> in the box that comes up, type 'ping minecraft.net' and hit enter
#1258 [12:53] <gerzel> ahha! I don't think i'm running sunjava. Forgot to install it.
#1259 [12:53] <xales> in the first line it will say "Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#1260 [12:53] <Goobles> Hi, I just got the latest update and now my personal server doesn't work, it says it's outdated
#1261 [12:53] <xales> Goobles: You need to update the server
#1262 [12:54] <xales> sansa11: what are the numbers on the first line
#1263 [12:54] <Goobles> how can i do this
#1264 [12:54] <xales> Goobles: just download the .exe or .jar again
#1265 [12:54] <BarryCarlyon> OOoh my server is doing a conversion o.0
#1266 [12:54] <Goobles> ummm, u mean th ip?
#1267 [12:54] <sansa11> after ping minecraft.net?
#1268 [12:54] <xales> sansa11: no, did you see what I said? the numbers inside [ ] on the first line is what you need to write here
#1269 [12:54] <Goobles> i dunno, i never entered it's ip, i think it's private
#1270 [12:54] <Goobles> oh
#1271 [12:54] <Goobles> 1 sec
#1272 [12:55] <sansa11> ah okay 50.16.203.217 these?
#1273 [12:55] <xales> yes
#1274 [12:55] <xales> sansa11: is the host file you pasted the entire file
#1275 [12:55] <xales> or did you remove the part of it about minecraft...
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#1277 [12:56] <Abbie> So I have a question a lot of people have probably asked today.
#1278 [12:56] <xales> ?? ask
#1279 [12:56] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1280 [12:56] <Goobles> this? [INFO] Disconnecting Goobles [/127.0.0.1:53081]: Outdated server!
#1281 [12:56] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1282 [12:56] <sansa11> ive just put the files into an other folder
#1283 [12:56] <xales> sansa11: are you using windows vista or windows 7?
#1284 [12:56] <sansa11> windows7
#1285 [12:56] <xales> Goobles: you need to update the server...
#1286 [12:56] <Goobles> windows vista
#1287 [12:56] <xales> Goobles: wasn't asking you <.<
#1288 [12:56] <Ikikay> They have not got 1.3 !!
#1289 [12:56] <Goobles> o=wher do i update it?
#1290 [12:57] <Ikikay> my server haven't got it :/
#1291 [12:57] <xales> Goobles: as I said, you just download the .exe for the server again
#1292 [12:57] <Abbie> When i start minecraft, now that its been updated, every time I go to play it says its downloading packages, getting information,ect. WHICH I had no problem with. Except, it's creating a new folder every.single.time
#1293 [12:57] <xales> Ikikay: You need to install the update on the server
#1294 [12:57] <Goobles> where is the exe (sorry I"m new with this)
#1295 [12:57] <xales> Abbie: new folder...?
#1296 [12:57] <BarryCarlyon> Mapping is broken now :-(
#1297 [12:57] <xales> Goobles: on the page where you downloaded the server the first time
#1298 [12:57] <Goobles> I think it was on the MC wiki, I'll try that
#1299 [12:57] <Abbie> Yeah. it creates a new minecraft bin everytime i start it up.
#1300 [12:57] <Ikikay> I repeat, My server HAVEN'T got 1.3
#1301 [12:57] <Ikikay> MY SERVER, not me, I'm ...
#1302 [12:58] <xales> Ikikay: I know
#1303 [12:58] <xales> YOU NEED TO UPDATE IT
#1304 [12:58] <xales> ._.
#1305 [12:58] <Ikikay> But how ?
#1306 [12:58] <Ikikay> if he haven't got it u__u
#1307 [12:58] <xales> as I have said before, you need to download it again
#1308 [12:58] <Ikikay> They say,create a new profile, with Minecraft 1.3 vanilla
#1309 [12:58] <xales> oh, you are using a server hosting website?
#1310 [12:58] <Ikikay> but I haven't got 1.3 u_u, only 1.2
#1311 [12:58] <Ikikay> I download anything, it's a server on multiplay
#1312 [12:58] <Ikikay> not in my computer
#1313 [12:58] <xales> ok
#1314 [12:59] <Ikikay> yeah!
#1315 [12:59] <Abbie> I don't understand how its doing it or why. But i went to see if i accidentally deleted something and there's 3 minecraft 'bin' folders
#1316 [12:59] <sansa11> xales? ^^ i gave you an answer xD
#1317 [12:59] <xales> then you need to wait until multiplay updates it
#1318 [12:59] <Ikikay> :/
#1319 [12:59] <xales> sansa11: sorry, one sec
#1320 [12:59] <sansa11> i use w7
#1321 [12:59] <Ikikay> Damned u_u, ok thanks
#1322 [12:59] <xales> Abbie: where are they?
#1323 [12:59] <Ikikay> (sorry I'm french, have got a difficult to speak)
#1324 [12:59] <Abbie> %appdata%/.minecraft
#1325 [12:59] <xales> sansa11: open start -> all programs -> accessories -> right-click on Notepad and "run as administrator"
#1326 [13:00] <xales> Abbie: try renaming .minecraft to something else, and running it again
#1327 [13:00] <Abbie> Alrighty. ='D
#1328 [13:00] <Abbie> Oh! also, will my mods be deleted?
#1329 [13:00] <xales> yes
#1330 [13:00] <Abbie> like...will they work with 1.3?
#1331 [13:00] <xales> they might
#1332 [13:00] <xales> I don't know
#1333 [13:00] <sansa11> than?
#1334 [13:00] <Abbie> oh well that...sucks juiceboxes.
#1335 [13:00] <xales> depends on the mod
#1336 [13:00] <sansa11> then*
#1337 [13:01] <xales> sansa11: click file->open and go to Computer -> C: -> System32 -> drivers -> etc -> hosts
#1338 [13:01] <Abbie> Huzzah!
#1339 [13:01] <Abbie> Its not making any more folders ='D
#1340 [13:01] <sansa11> then?
#1341 [13:01] <xales> Abbie: if that worked, and you need your singleplayer saves back, just copy the 'save' folder from the old .minecraft into the new one
#1342 [13:01] <xales> sansa11: one sec
#1343 [13:02] <xales> sansa11: delete everything in the file
#1344 [13:02] <xales> and save it
#1345 [13:02] <sansa11> all content off hosts?
#1346 [13:02] <sansa11> of*
#1347 [13:03] <xales> yes
#1348 [13:03] <sansa11> w8
#1349 [13:04] <Goobles> thanks, my server works again
#1350 [13:04] <Abbie> Oh! no it kept the folders in the same location, and all the bin ones. so i just deleted the extra bins and started up minecraft and it's not doing it anymore ='D
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#1352 [13:04] <xales> Abbie: ok
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#1354 [13:04] <Abbie> annnd I lost all of my horses.
#1355 [13:04] <Abbie> Ah well, anyway! thank you for the help, xales!
#1356 [13:04] <mib_76p09f> thanks my server works again
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#1358 [13:04] <sansa11> done
#1359 [13:04] <bjerre> hey
#1360 [13:04] <xales> hi
#1361 [13:04] <mib_76p09f> oh it changed my nick name
#1362 [13:05] <bjerre> need help to minecraft :S
#1363 [13:05] <xales> sansa11: save it, close it, and try going to minecraft.net again
#1364 [13:05] <Ikikay> please, how to going to 1.2 ...?
#1365 [13:05] <xales> ??> bjerre ask
#1366 [13:05] <VoxelHead> bjerre: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1367 [13:05] <VoxelHead> bjerre: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1368 [13:05] <mib_76p09f> Goobles says "my server works again"
#1369 [13:05] <xales> Ikikay: you can't if you already updated
#1370 [13:05] <xales> mib_76p09f: yes, saw that :)
#1371 [13:05] <sansa11> doesnt work
#1372 [13:05] <Ikikay> ... omg...my support say, to going 1.2 they haven't got 1.3
#1373 [13:05] <bjerre> i can't start my multiplayer server eny more
#1374 [13:05] <Ikikay> u_u ...
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#1376 [13:05] <xales> sansa11: open the cmd again and ping again
#1377 [13:05] <xales> ??> bjerre error
#1378 [13:05] <VoxelHead> bjerre: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#1379 [13:05] <VoxelHead> bjerre: (error) we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1380 [13:06] <xales> sansa11: are the numbers the same?
#1381 [13:06] <sansa11> yes
#1382 [13:06] <Goobles> I was wondering how to find out the ip of my server, I always have used localhost in the past
#1383 [13:06] <bjerre> its just standing and saying starting server up.. and nothing happens.
#1384 [13:06] <xales> Goobles: you can use http://whatismyip.com/ but for that to work, you need to port forward
#1385 [13:06] <xales> bjerre: where are you running it in?
#1386 [13:06] <sansa11> packages: sent 4 received 0 lost =4?^^
#1387 [13:07] <bjerre> MCadmin
#1388 [13:07] <Ikikay> So, I can't play because I'm 1.3, and the server haven't got 1.3, so the support say ot me, go to 1.2... but I can't go to 1.2
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#1390 [13:07] <vegas2> this texture pack sucks
#1391 [13:07] <Ikikay> How I do for play!><
#1392 [13:07] <vegas2> whats the best one out there?
#1393 [13:07] <KyA26> Hello all
#1394 [13:07] <xales> vegas2: that's in the opinion of the one playing, there is no "best one"
#1395 [13:07] <Goobles> ty, but what does port forward mean?
#1396 [13:07] <xales> hi KyA26
#1397 [13:07] <InS4Ne> i need a minecraf ip pls from a server
#1398 [13:07] <xales> !wiki port forward
#1399 [13:07] <Goobles> sure
#1400 [13:07] * xales pokes GreyBot
#1400 [13:07] <Goobles> ty
#1401 [13:07] <xales> <.<
#1402 [13:08] <Ikikay> So, I can't play because I'm 1.3, and the server haven't got 1.3, so the support say ot me, go to 1.2... but I can't go to 1.2, How I do for play ><. :(
#1403 [13:08] <Ikikay> on me*
#1404 [13:08] <Ikikay> to me*
#1405 [13:08] <xales> Ikikay: there is nothing to do
#1406 [13:08] <xales> wait for them to update it
#1407 [13:08] <sansa11> numbers are the same
#1408 [13:08] <Ikikay> .... u_u .... I buy a game and a server for can't play...
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#1410 [13:08] <Ikikay> youpi...
#1411 [13:08] <Ikikay> Thanks xales :/
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#1413 [13:08] <xales> Ikikay: The proble is not the game, it is the server
#1414 [13:09] <Ikikay> and the game who want we use 1.2 u_u'
#1415 [13:09] <Ikikay> don't want*
#1416 [13:09] <bubub98> i hqv 1.3 i cant play on this server why?
#1417 [13:09] <xales> bubub98: is the server updated?
#1418 [13:09] <vegas2> converting world to scaevolus ? whats that mean
#1419 [13:09] <bubub98> no
#1420 [13:09] <bubub98> its says its out dated
#1421 [13:09] <Ikikay> because your server haven't got 1.3 :=
#1422 [13:10] <xales> vegas2: the save format changed. just wait
#1423 [13:10] <xales> bubub98: you need to wait until the person running the server updates it
#1424 [13:10] <Ikikay> bubub98 Have to update in 1.3 for play
#1425 [13:10] <bubub98> when will the server b updated?
#1426 [13:10] <xales> bubub98: that depends on who runs it
#1427 [13:10] <Ikikay> bubub98 when your admin will do
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#1429 [13:10] <xales> ask them.
#1430 [13:10] <bubub98> i cant
#1431 [13:10] <Goobles> i looked it up on wikipedia so i have a better idea of what it is, but I don't knoqw how to do it
#1432 [13:10] <bubub98> i cant get on
#1433 [13:10] <xales> bubub98: then you need to wait
#1434 [13:11] <Goobles> do i just edit server properties and put my ip there?
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#1436 [13:11] <Ikikay> bubub98 do you now your heberger ?
#1437 [13:11] <xales> Goobles: no
#1438 [13:11] <xales> in fact, you can't put an IP in there at all
#1439 [13:11] <bubub98> whats that?
#1440 [13:11] <|Lee|> Hi, why can't I join my own server any more? I updated both Minecraft and McAdmin to v1.3. It says "Failed to connect to the server. Connection timed out: connect"
#1441 [13:11] <xales> if you want, I can give you a guide on how to do it, or do it for you
#1442 [13:11] <Goobles> sure ty
#1443 [13:11] <Ikikay> it's a server on computer our over ?
#1444 [13:11] <xales> |Lee|: What IP are you using?
#1445 [13:11] <Goobles> 198.53.163.149
#1446 [13:12] <xales> Goobles: do you want me to give you a guide, or do it for you?
#1447 [13:12] <|Lee|> xales: The one of my pc which I normally use.
#1448 [13:12] <xales> |Lee|: try using 127.0.0.1
#1449 [13:12] <Ikikay> hosting website ? our on computer ?
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#1451 [13:12] <KyA26> i have update my server but the player can t connect to my host... updated server !
#1452 [13:12] <Goobles> guide plz
#1453 [13:12] <|Lee|> Ok.
#1454 [13:12] <geegeegee> Do i just restart the server to update it?
#1455 [13:12] <bubub98> huh?
#1456 [13:12] <sansa11> xales i cant play it anymore am i right? ^^ cant connect to minecraft.net etc..
#1457 [13:12] <xales> geegeegee: no, you have to download the .exe or .jar again
#1458 [13:12] <geegeegee> oh ok
#1459 [13:12] <|Lee|> Does neither work, xales.
#1460 [13:12] <Ikikay> bubub98 do you now where is hosting your server ?* ^^
#1461 [13:12] <xales> KyA26: you need to update the server
#1462 [13:12] <|Lee|> "Connection refused: connect"
#1463 [13:13] <Goobles> so i put that in server properties?
#1464 [13:13] <Goobles> or somewhere else?
#1465 [13:13] <xales> |Lee|: are you sure the server is running
#1466 [13:13] <xales> Goobles: no, wait
#1467 [13:13] <xales> Goobles: what is the model of your router?
#1468 [13:13] <|Lee|> Yep.
#1469 [13:13] <geegeegee> xales, my old world will work though, right?
#1470 [13:13] <Goobles> oh
#1471 [13:13] <KyA26> for update download the minecrat_server.jar on minecraft.net ? that s correct ?
#1472 [13:13] <|Lee|> It worked before the update now it doesn't. :-/ Trying since 2 hours.
#1473 [13:13] <xales> |Lee|: Try it without MCAdmin
#1474 [13:13] <Goobles> I"m not sure
#1475 [13:13] <|Lee|> Maybe I should try with the server software instead of - yeah.
#1476 [13:13] <xales> KyA26: yes
#1477 [13:13] <xales> geegeegee: yes
#1478 [13:14] <geegeegee> still getting the same error :|
#1479 [13:14] <KyA26> ok thanks i ll try again
#1480 [13:14] <xales> Goobles: look on the router, it should say on it
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#1482 [13:14] <Goobles> kk
#1483 [13:14] <xales> geegeegee: what exactly is the error?
#1484 [13:14] <geegeegee> Oh i was starting it with bukkit, ill try it without
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#1486 [13:14] <geegeegee> xales, the outdated server one, ill try without bukkit
#1487 [13:14] <xales> ok
#1488 [13:14] <geegeegee> its working
#1489 [13:14] <Goobles> it's "D-Link, Telus" something
#1490 [13:15] <LRWerewolf> Question: Just got the client update and can't connect to my vanilla server. Has the server jar been updated as well or is this a problem?
#1491 [13:15] <xales> Goobles: is there specifically a number on it?
#1492 [13:15] <geegeegee> the lighting looks so much bette rin this update :o
#1493 [13:15] <Goobles> 1 sec
#1494 [13:15] <xales> LRWerewolf: Yes - you need to update the server binary (.jar, .exe, whatever)
#1495 [13:15] <sansa11> xales? i think im premium now but it says i cant connect to minecraft.net..
#1496 [13:15] <LRWerewolf> xales: Cool, thanks.
#1497 [13:15] <xales> sansa11: can you connect in the browser, going to http://minecraft.net/?
#1498 [13:15] <Goobles> the model number or barcode thing
#1499 [13:15] <sansa11> nope
#1500 [13:15] <|Lee|> My problem is not McAdmin-related. Hosting with the server software only gives the same error message.
#1501 [13:16] <Starlight> Umm is it normal that I get lag spikes after the update of the server?
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#1503 [13:16] <xales> |Lee|: if you can't connect with localhost, and are hosting on the same computer, then something is up
#1504 [13:16] <bubub98> i just updated my server yay!
#1505 [13:17] <xales> |Lee|: do you have anything on the server-ip= line in the server.properties?
#1506 [13:17] <xales> Starlight: not really...
#1507 [13:17] <sansa11> cant connect to minecraft.net
#1508 [13:17] <|Lee|> Mom.
#1509 [13:17] <Starlight> Well I run my server in Linux on another computer.. But after the update, it laggs like hell.. And my internet on other computers lag too.. Just after the update..
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#1511 [13:17] <Liath> hi there
#1512 [13:17] <|Lee|> Yep, localhost.
#1513 [13:18] <xales> Starlight: on the client, open Options and click Graphic Options, and turn off "Smooth Lighting"
#1514 [13:18] <xales> |Lee|: ah, there is the problem
#1515 [13:18] <|Lee|> Delete it?
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#1517 [13:18] <xales> |Lee|: correct
#1518 [13:18] <xales> hi Liath
#1519 [13:18] <thammi1996> hi
#1520 [13:18] <xales> |Lee|: you shouldn't put anything on that line
#1521 [13:18] <Liath> I have a question, one you would have been asked like a thousand times today :)
#1522 [13:18] <|Lee|> Ok, but I don't think I edited this.
#1523 [13:18] <xales> go ahead and ask
#1524 [13:18] <thammi1996> i can not connect to minecraft.net
#1525 [13:19] <Starlight> xales: No it's not the problem.. I can close Minecraft and can't open other websites.. The internet is crazy..
#1526 [13:19] <xales> thammi1996: can you connect in your browser, going to http://minecraft.net/
#1527 [13:19] <thammi1996> thx
#1528 [13:19] <Goobles> the model number is: DVA-G3810BN TL
#1529 [13:19] <Liath> thanks. I run a server, which is still in 1.2, my players now have the 1.3 client. what could I do ? Do I just stick the minecraft_server.jar file from minecraft.net and it should work ?
#1530 [13:19] <Goobles> i dunno if that helps
#1531 [13:19] <xales> Liath: correct
#1532 [13:20] <xales> Goobles: it should, one sec
#1533 [13:20] <Goobles> ty
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#1536 [13:24] <xales> |Lee|: can you do it without mcadmin running?
#1537 [13:24] <xales> try getting it to work without mcadmin first
#1538 [13:24] <y1n14i11> someone know how to create lanterns?
#1539 [13:24] <xales> y1n14i11: there aren't lanterns
#1540 [13:25] <y1n14i11> waht?
#1541 [13:25] <Starlight> Ok I have hosted Minecraft on Linux for a few weeks now (I use a different computer to play on).. And after updating my local network is slow.. Or is it the internet? Loading websites are slow.. And TeamSpeak lags..
#1542 [13:25] <xales> there are no lanterns in Minecraft
#1543 [13:25] <|Lee|> I can change the properties file itself but it won't change when I reload the software.
#1544 [13:25] <thammi1996> i can not connect to minecraft.net ,to play online
#1545 [13:25] <sansa11> xales? with a proxy i can connect.. but still cant play the game
#1546 [13:25] <xales> thammi1996: try waiting a few hours, then come back here if it still does not work
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#1548 [13:25] <xales> sansa11: yes, just try waiting
#1549 [13:25] <Starlight> Ok I have hosted Minecraft on Linux for a few weeks now (I use a different computer to play on).. And after updating my local network is slow.. Or is it the internet? Loading websites are slow.. And TeamSpeak lags..
#1550 [13:26] <thammi1996> bb
#1551 [13:26] <Sinnersaix> now we have beds
#1552 [13:26] <xales> Starlight: I see, no need to say it again
#1553 [13:26] <xales> one sec
#1554 [13:26] <Goobles> Kk the IPv4 is: 192.168.1.65
#1555 [13:26] <xales> Starlight: it's probably just your Internet connection - home connections aren't designed for running servers, and Minecraft is particularly bad about not working well with home connections
#1556 [13:26] <xales> I'd say, wait a few days for the bugfix patch
#1557 [13:27] <xales> it'll probably be fixed then
#1558 [13:27] <xales> Goobles: ok, go here http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DVA-G3810BN-TL/Minecraft_Server.htm and in the box where it says "enter static IP" put 192.168.1.65
#1559 [13:27] <sansa11> what now? first you said its because i used a pirated version.. then i bought it and have premium and now it doesnt work..
#1560 [13:27] <Goobles> kk ty
#1561 [13:28] <xales> sansa11: the pirated version does things to your computer like a virus to make it work without paying
#1562 [13:28] <xales> it doesn't magically know to go away because you bought it
#1563 [13:28] <sansa11> yes but i payed now..
#1564 [13:28] <sluggo> Hey I just downloaded a texture pack from painterly. I put it into a folder with my minecraft game and tried to run it but now when I go to singleplayer it freezes then closes out. Any ideas?
#1565 [13:28] <xales> so what...the bad things it did are still there
#1566 [13:28] <sansa11> delete?
#1567 [13:28] <xales> sluggo: has Painterly been updated yet?
#1568 [13:28] <sansa11> all files?
#1569 [13:28] <sluggo> not sure
#1570 [13:28] <ssen> <xales> sansa11: the pirated version does things to your computer like a virus to make it work without paying
#1571 [13:28] <Diabo> downloaded the minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net and still get outdatet server...
#1572 [13:28] <ssen> You sure are overexaggerating this.
#1573 [13:29] <xales> ssen: not that much
#1574 [13:29] <KyA26> ok i ve re download the minecraft_server.jar and restore my world folder (all in same folder) and the server works now
#1575 [13:29] <xales> editing hosts file? yeah, there's a lot of legit use for that
#1576 [13:29] <ssen> Xales, more likely than not it just changes your HOSTS file to redirect to somewhere else.
#1577 [13:29] <Lorax> and you would trust that somewhere else?
#1578 [13:29] <xales> ssen, it's still redirecting him somewhere stupid and he cleaned out the hosts file
#1579 [13:29] <ssen> That ain't good. Means he might have to comb the registry
#1580 [13:29] <xales> ssen, there were no minecraft.net related entires in the first place
#1581 [13:29] <xales> yeah..
#1582 [13:30] * Lorax adds more points to xales "fantastic patience" score
#1582 [13:30] <xales> so, not really exaggerating
#1583 [13:30] <sansa11> so?^^
#1584 [13:30] <xales> Diabo: try clearning your internet cache, the minecraft_server.exe I checked a while ago and was 13.
#1585 [13:30] <xales> 1.3*
#1586 [13:30] <ssen> You make it seem like it's the end all of computer virii, but it doesn't really matter in any case.
#1587 [13:30] <Lorax> seriously man, it's people like you who are the foundation of the MC community, I can't approach the tolerance you are demonstrating. :)
#1588 [13:31] <sansa11> afk
#1589 [13:31] <xales> ssen, any ideas on how to even start to fix that?
#1590 [13:31] <xales> it's hard enough to guide people to look at the hosts file
#1591 [13:31] <xales> but poking around in the registry? =/
#1592 [13:31] <ssen> There is a SAMS file, similar to HOSTS, let me see if I can find it.
#1593 [13:31] <xales> Lorax: heh, thanks
#1594 [13:33] <y1n14i11> any idea how to create an Diode/Repeater/Delayer?
#1595 [13:33] <ssen> sansa11, can you tell me where you found the cracked client, or where you downloaded it from?
#1596 [13:33] <ssen> Demonoid/TPB/Portaliz etc et
#1597 [13:33] <ssen> c
#1598 [13:33] <sansa11> youtube ^^ on a filesharing website
#1599 [13:34] <ssen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qG3jpOyCrs
#1600 [13:34] <ssen> This?
#1601 [13:34] <xales> y1n14i11: http://minecraft.net/
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#1603 [13:34] <sansa11> no, w8 i look
#1604 [13:34] <lyude> guys
#1605 [13:35] <lyude> How do you convert the old map format to the new format
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#1607 [13:35] <xales> lyude: just play it
#1608 [13:35] <Lauless> are smp maps converted when you run the new server jar for the first time?
#1609 [13:35] <lyude> For servers?
#1610 [13:35] <xales> just run the server
#1611 [13:35] <lyude> Alrightie
#1612 [13:35] <xales> Lauless: yes
#1613 [13:35] <lyude> Thanks
#1614 [13:35] <autocannibal> cannot connect to minecraft.net. am i the only one having this issue right now?
#1615 [13:35] * Lauless is scared
#1615 [13:36] <xales> autocannibal: a few people are, yes
#1616 [13:36] <xales> wait a little while then come back
#1617 [13:36] <Lauless> thx xales
#1618 [13:36] <xales> if it's still not working
#1619 [13:36] <Cial> xales: the servers are down are they not?
#1620 [13:36] <sansa11> ah w8 not from a filesharing website
#1621 [13:36] <autocannibal> this started last night for me
#1622 [13:36] <xales> Cial, not for me, some people are having the issue
#1623 [13:36] <Cial> im reffering to SMP
#1624 [13:36] <ssen> Where from then, sansa11?
#1625 [13:36] <xales> autocannibal: can you open minecraft.net in a browser/
#1626 [13:36] <autocannibal> yeah
#1627 [13:37] <xales> but the download client doesn't work?
#1628 [13:37] <autocannibal> does it need some kind of port forwarding?
#1629 [13:37] <xales> no
#1630 [13:37] <xales> are you using the new launcher?
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#1632 [13:37] <Goobles> I got to this poitna nd I"m nut sure what to do "Enter the ip address to forward these ports to into the Local Host box. If you are forwarding ports so you can run a program on your computer, you should enter your computer's ip address into that box."
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#1634 [13:37] <autocannibal> nope. i deleted my local content and downloaded a new exe
#1635 [13:37] <jal0kin> hi
#1636 [13:37] <Lauless> xales: the server map, converted and duplicated or converted and overwritten?
#1637 [13:37] <xales> Goobles: put the IPv4 address there
#1638 [13:37] <jal0kin> can anyone tell me why my server suddenly is "outdated"
#1639 [13:37] <xales> Lauless: overwritten I believe
#1640 [13:37] <Goobles> kk ty
#1641 [13:37] <xales> jal0kin: because minecraft updated. you need to update your server, too
#1642 [13:38] <sansa11> ehm sry.. still filesharing website xD
#1643 [13:38] <jal0kin> how?
#1644 [13:38] <sansa11> link=
#1645 [13:38] <sansa11> ?
#1646 [13:38] <jal0kin> I run bukkit btw
#1647 [13:38] <xales> jal0kin: I don't think bukkit works with 1.3 yet
#1648 [13:38] <jal0kin> doh!
#1649 [13:38] <xales> you need to re-download the .jar and overwrite the old one
#1650 [13:38] <Lauless> if you want to run 1.3, you have to run vanilla for a bit
#1651 [13:38] <jal0kin> okay...
#1652 [13:38] <Lorax> it hasn't been updated yet, but don't worry, everyone is scrambling, or at work.
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#1654 [13:38] <Lauless> it will take a little time
#1655 [13:39] <espasmato> can someone help me with paying for this game, my card wont work
#1656 [13:39] <autocannibal> huh, i can play in my browswe
#1657 [13:39] <xales> espasmato: is it a visa prepaid card?
#1658 [13:40] <espasmato> mastercard
#1659 [13:40] <xales> prepaid?
#1660 [13:40] <espasmato> yeah
#1661 [13:40] <xales> that's why
#1662 [13:40] <y1n14i11> nisa is working fine
#1663 [13:40] <y1n14i11> visa*
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#1665 [13:40] <espasmato> paypal takes prepaid fine usually
#1666 [13:40] <xales> prepaid card don't usually work with international transactions
#1667 [13:40] <xales> even on paypal
#1668 [13:40] <Lorax> that's a paypal issue not a MC issue
#1669 [13:40] <espasmato> hmm
#1670 [13:40] <ssen> Wow
#1671 [13:40] <Gzsume> Hey guys
#1672 [13:40] <xales> you should try calling the number on the back of the card, see if they can mark it for online/international purchases
#1673 [13:40] <ssen> Whatever sansa11 was using is heavy duty stuff
#1674 [13:41] <ssen> 45.8MB
#1675 [13:41] <gerzel> anyone found the new half blocks yet?
#1676 [13:41] <xales> gerzel: two of sandstone, or cobblestone I believe. a 2x2
#1677 [13:41] <Lauless> xales: I can confirm server maps get overwritten
#1678 [13:41] <xales> ssen: this is the "I told you so" part <.<
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#1680 [13:42] <Gzsume> Got a little problem... When I click "Singleplayer", my game closes. Anyone know how to fix it ? I just downloaded the lastest launcher
#1681 [13:42] <sansa11> i can play with my pc.. im onk
#1682 [13:42] <sansa11> online with my laptop..
#1683 [13:42] <xjet> key dude, since i refuse the update, i failed to login : "Can't connect to minecraft.net" any idea ?
#1684 [13:43] <sansa11> when i cant play with my laptop i play with my pc^^ and i think im will get a new laptop..
#1685 [13:43] <Gzsume> try to delete .minecraft in %appdata%
#1686 [13:43] <sansa11> i*
#1687 [13:43] <xales> xjet: are you using the new launcher?
#1688 [13:44] <xjet> yes
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#1690 [13:44] <xjet> but it was working 3hours ago
#1691 [13:44] <CreepersGonCreep> how the hell do i regiter
#1692 [13:44] <sansa11> ssen? what do you mean with heavy duty stuff?^^
#1693 [13:44] <xales> the servers might just have gone down again...
#1694 [13:44] <xales> CreepersGonCreep: register for...?
#1695 [13:44] <CreepersGonCreep> the IRC lol
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#1697 [13:45] <xjet> hmm ok, i will try in 3hours
#1698 [13:45] <Coll> uh
#1699 [13:45] <Coll> is the minecraft connection server down?
#1700 [13:45] <ssen> <sansa11> ssen? what do you mean with heavy duty stuff?^^
#1701 [13:45] <xales> Coll: possibly
#1702 [13:45] <ssen> I mean it is a lot of stuff,
#1703 [13:45] <ssen> minecraft itself is ~4MB
#1704 [13:45] <Coll> should of known
#1705 [13:45] <xales> ?? irc
#1706 [13:45] <izzd> i can't connect
#1707 [13:45] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
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#1709 [13:45] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
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#1711 [13:45] <sansa11> ah okay ^^ bad`? ^^
#1712 [13:45] <ssen> Why do I have a feeling this is using Fiddle
#1713 [13:46] <Solenki> Hi guys
#1714 [13:46] <xales> hi
#1715 [13:46] <sansa11> i can delete the files..
#1716 [13:46] <Solenki> I'm new to Minecraft, I just purchased it an hour ago
#1717 [13:46] <|Lee|> Bye. Thanks @ xales for all the help but I still cannot host my map. I will just wait for a day or two for an update.
#1718 [13:46] <xjet> Solenki, just launh it and enjo0 !
#1719 [13:47] <Solenki> It seems that I can't connect to the server, is this normal ? or is it due to the fact that I just purchased it ? thanks
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#1721 [13:47] <ssen> Nevermind, sansa11. My browser had a file estimation error
#1722 [13:47] <ssen> its 428Kb or so.
#1723 [13:47] <xjet> Solekin, seems normal...
#1724 [13:47] <sansa11> okay?^^
#1725 [13:47] <xales> Solenki: some people are having that problem
#1726 [13:47] <sansa11> 44847 Kbyte
#1727 [13:47] <xales> the servers are probably over-capacity because the game just updated
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#1729 [13:47] <ssen> Wait a minute... that can't be right.
#1730 [13:47] <Solenki> ok thanks guys :)
#1731 [13:47] <Nordas> hello
#1732 [13:47] <xales> hi
#1733 [13:48] <Solenki> time to read some tutorials then
#1734 [13:48] <Nordas> i need some help :(
#1735 [13:48] <xales> ?? ask
#1736 [13:48] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1737 [13:48] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1738 [13:48] <Nordas> when i click on my old worlds its starts convert them
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#1740 [13:48] <Nordas> whens its done
#1741 [13:48] <Nordas> the game shuts down
#1742 [13:49] <xales> open the game, and on the login screen, click "options"
#1743 [13:49] <Nordas> k
#1744 [13:49] <xales> click "force update"
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#1746 [13:49] <xales> then, login and see if they work
#1747 [13:50] <Nordas> i dont see a "force update"
#1748 [13:50] <xales> Nordas: are you using the new launcher?
#1749 [13:50] <Reyouka> I can't even log in. Sigh
#1750 [13:50] <Nordas> no :O
#1751 [13:50] <xales> Nordas: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1752 [13:50] <Nordas> :D
#1753 [13:50] <xales> download it there, and use that
#1754 [13:52] <sansa11> i think i go to my pc and play minecraft .. ^^
#1755 [13:52] <sansa11> thx.. bye ^^
#1756 [13:52] <Nordas> its starts to load the world and then closes :[
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#1759 [13:53] <xales> Nordas: did you force update?
#1760 [13:54] <Nordas> yeah...
#1761 [13:54] <xales> hmm
#1762 [13:54] <xales> in the client options, turn off "smooth lighting"
#1763 [13:54] <Reyouka> be lucky you can even log in Nordas
#1764 [13:54] <xales> under graphic options
#1765 [13:55] <Nordas> nope same thing
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#1767 [13:55] <xales> try creating a new world - does it work with that?
#1768 [13:55] <Nordas> k
#1769 [13:55] <Juvez> hi, enyone els lost houses on save system ?
#1770 [13:56] <Nordas> i worked...
#1771 [13:56] <Nordas> it*
#1772 [13:56] <xales> Juvez: no..."lost houses"?
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#1775 [13:56] <Juvez> ye, lost on few wood houses all walls :D
#1776 [13:56] <Nordas> i lost my whole world :(
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#1779 [13:56] <Juvez> all rest houses are fine
#1780 [13:56] <Juvez> very wierd
#1781 [13:57] <xales> Nordas: Wait until the map editors are updated to work
#1782 [13:57] <xales> with the new format
#1783 [13:57] <xales> then, you should be able to open the world and re-save it
#1784 [13:57] <ssen> sansa-- oh fuck
#1785 [13:57] <ssen> The moment I figure out how to solve his problem he's gone.
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#1787 [13:57] <ssen> The solution was considerably easier than I thought it would be, all he needed to do was delete his .minecraft folder in %appdata%
#1788 [13:58] <xales> he said he did that, I think
#1789 [13:58] <Reyouka> Any advice for my whole 'can't connect' problem?
#1790 [13:58] <ssen> He deleted his minecraft.jar and left the rest more likely than not, because this doens't affect any outside files
#1791 [13:58] <xales> Many people are having that
#1792 [13:58] <ssen> It just replaces the default ones.
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#1794 [13:59] <xales> Reyouka: the servers are just down, because pretty much everyone is trying to play at once
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#1796 [13:59] <Reyouka> Eh. no offense to Notch but he needs to get better servers then. That or optimize how minecraft handles server connects
#1797 [14:00] <xales> they are working on that - at least 2 or 3 people are dedicated to only working on that now
#1798 [14:00] <Nordas> so how do i fix my problem?
#1799 [14:00] <Reyouka> It's just odd because I can access minecraft.net through firefox. But not through the game
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#1802 [14:00] <xales> part of the problem is that the Amazon cloud doesn't work properly
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#1804 [14:00] <xales> Reyouka: the login servers were made seperate I believe
#1805 [14:00] <Raze> Hai
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#1807 [14:00] <xales> Nordas: once the map editor are updated, you might be able to open the worls using that and re-save it
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#1810 [14:01] <mib_t7yg7n> I am trying to run my server using mcadmin and it wont run properly any chance someone can help me with this
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#1812 [14:01] <xales> define "won't run properly"
#1813 [14:01] <Nordas> :( balls
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#1815 [14:01] <Raze> Um
#1816 [14:01] <xales> hi Raze
#1817 [14:01] <Contex> Doesn anyone have the problem with Minecraft Server?
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#1819 [14:01] <Raze> I need help setting up my Minecraft again
#1820 [14:01] <mib_t7yg7n> when i run mcadmin and start the server it just sits at starting and never switches to running
#1821 [14:02] <Raze> It crashed
#1822 [14:02] <Wept> @Contex : Yes.
#1823 [14:02] <hl2> hi
#1824 [14:02] <Solenki> :) just went offline, created a new wolrd
#1825 [14:02] <Raze> When I was installing a texture pack
#1826 [14:02] <Contex> Alright.
#1827 [14:02] <Contex> Anyone know how/when it will be fixed?
#1828 [14:02] <Raze> Now when I try to start up the game it just closes
#1829 [14:02] <Wept> I'm having a problem with the server returning error " Launcher outdated "
#1830 [14:02] <Solenki> i'm on a very tiny island, the main island is far away, squids are between us, excellent :]
#1831 [14:02] <xales> mib_t7yg7n: try it without using mcadmin
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#1833 [14:02] <Contex> I'm getting server outdated... even though i manually download the server from the website.
#1834 [14:03] <Wept> Anyone got any ideas on what's gone wrong?
#1835 [14:03] <xales> Raze: in the launcher (if you haven't updated that, do it now - it's a manual update) click Options and Force Update
#1836 [14:03] <xales> Wept: Is the server updated?
#1837 [14:03] <Wept> @xales Lemme try that, brb.
#1838 [14:03] <Wept> @xales Yes
#1839 [14:03] <Raze> K
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#1841 [14:04] <xales> ok, try the force update thing then
#1842 [14:04] <nevercast> Morning!
#1843 [14:04] <xales> agh nevercast
#1844 [14:04] <Raze> Awright
#1845 [14:04] <xales> get on your desktop D:
#1846 [14:04] <Nordas> shouldi try converting my other old maps?
#1847 [14:04] <Raze> I force updated it
#1848 [14:04] <xales> Nordas: if you want to
#1849 [14:04] <nevercast> Uhh... okay
#1850 [14:04] <xales> Raze: try running it now
#1851 [14:04] <Raze> Nope, it still closes
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#1853 [14:05] <NeverCast[Desktop]> xales, ??
#1854 [14:05] <Contex> Anyone know how to fix my server? I'm using CraftBukkit and it says sever outdated even though i manually updated it.
#1855 [14:05] <Wept> @xales : Wait.. force update the SERVER or MC?
#1856 [14:05] <xales> Wept: Minecraft, but also update the server
#1857 [14:05] <fogWraith> Contex, new CB isn't out for 1.3
#1858 [14:05] <xales> Contex: Bukkit isn't updated yet
#1859 [14:05] <xales> NeverCast[Desktop]: We are over capacity
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#1861 [14:05] <xales> :(
#1862 [14:05] <fogWraith> Login servers are poop'd
#1863 [14:05] <Contex> Oh serious.
#1864 [14:05] <Contex> I have to run without CB?
#1865 [14:05] <fogWraith> Yes
#1866 [14:05] <Contex> Thanks.
#1867 [14:06] <NeverCast[Desktop]> xales, why are so many people here?
#1868 [14:06] <xales> NeverCast[Desktop]: update
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#1870 [14:06] <xales> 1.3
#1871 [14:06] <NeverCast[Desktop]> xales, did someone dun goof at Mojang!
#1872 [14:06] <xales> servers are down
#1873 [14:06] <xales> but only login
#1874 [14:06] <xales> and the game updated
#1875 [14:06] <Raze> Um I tried downloading Minecraft again and I can't login
#1876 [14:06] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Okay, so tell people to update their clients and servers yah?
#1877 [14:06] <geronimoooooo> figured as much :) thanks for the update
#1878 [14:06] <Sinnersaix>
#1879 [14:06] <Sinnersaix> is any server updated?
#1880 [14:06] <xales> Raze: everyone has that problem
#1881 [14:06] <fogWraith> xales, go to #minecraft and tell 'em who's the boss... and stop trying to ruin my game by bogging the login server
#1882 [14:06] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Raze, Login servers are down.. read
#1883 [14:06] <Raze> Oh
#1884 [14:06] <Raze> Sorry
#1885 [14:07] <xales> NeverCast[Desktop]: pretty much
#1886 [14:07] <NeverCast[Desktop]> /topic Update your Servers and Clients || You can't login yet has the Login Servers are Down
#1887 [14:07] <NeverCast[Desktop]> s/has/as/
#1888 [14:07] <xales> what's AuBot's current motd hmm
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#1891 [14:07] <pico> whats the recipe for beds?
#1892 [14:07] <NeverCast[Desktop]> We should have been using AuBot MOTD yesterday to notify people of the AVG problem
#1893 [14:08] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Pico, http://minecraftwiki.com/
#1894 [14:08] <xales> .set motd The login servers are currently DOWN - this is why you get "cannot connect to minecraft.net" - Please be patient and wait for this issue to be resolved
#1895 [14:08] <pico> already updated the wiki? gw
#1896 [14:08] <lyude> why no connect to mc.net
#1897 [14:08] <lyude> sadface
#1898 [14:08] <lyude> :c
#1899 [14:08] <pico> ty
#1900 [14:08] <NeverCast[Desktop]> ahh
#1901 [14:08] <Raze> Soory again but does anyone know when the servers will be back up?
#1902 [14:08] <xales> Raze: nope
#1903 [14:08] <NeverCast[Desktop]> pico, minecraftwiki.net
#1904 [14:08] <lyude> They don't come back
#1905 [14:08] <NeverCast[Desktop]> my mistake
#1906 [14:08] <lyude> P
#1907 [14:08] <lyude> *:P
#1908 [14:08] <Raze> K, thanks for the help
#1909 [14:08] <Raze> Bye bye
#1910 [14:09] <Goobles> xales: I tryed the guide u sent me but it's kinda confusing for me and I"m not sure what to do at this point: You should see another page of settings that need to be entered into one of the blank lines on your routers Edit Service Server Ports page. Go ahead and enter those settings and then click Ok.
#1911 [14:09] <Nordas> i can connect to minecraft.net
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#1913 [14:09] <xales> Nordas: nobody can
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#1915 [14:09] <xales> Goobles: one sec
#1916 [14:09] <Nordas> i think i can
#1917 [14:09] <Goobles> kk
#1918 [14:09] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Nordas, Minecraft is spread over several servers in a cloud
#1919 [14:09] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Nordas, the login server is not the same server as the website
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#1921 [14:10] <Tram> hello?
#1922 [14:10] <xales> hi
#1923 [14:10] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Hello Tram, Ask your question
#1924 [14:10] <Tram> cool i can speak in this cha
#1925 [14:10] <Tram> t
#1926 [14:10] <Wept> Guys, I'm lost and probably retarded. Can't seem to locate force update :3
#1927 [14:10] <xales> ?? irc
#1928 [14:10] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1929 [14:10] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1930 [14:10] <xales> Wept: are you using the new launcher?
#1931 [14:10] <Wept> Yes.
#1932 [14:10] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Tram, You can only speak if you need Minecraft Help
#1933 [14:10] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Tram, otherwise we are too busy for chatter.
#1934 [14:10] <xales> It's in the Options in the launcher, under the Login button
#1935 [14:11] * NeverCast[Desktop] gives xales a V energy drink.
#1935 [14:11] <Wept> The funny thing is, don't have it.
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#1937 [14:11] <NeverCast[Desktop]> It's gonna be a long one
#1938 [14:11] <xales> Wept: are you sure you are using the new launcher?
#1939 [14:11] <hermit> um
#1940 [14:11] <xales> NeverCast[Desktop]: I haven't eaten yet, it's 2pm <.<
#1941 [14:11] <hermit> so I updated to the new version
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#1943 [14:11] <hermit> loaded my world
#1944 [14:11] <Tram> ah well i was just in the main channel, and i was not able to talk there, but why i came here it because i cant connect to minecraft with a launcher on my pc, but i CAN connect true the website?!
#1945 [14:11] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, Go to the Minecraft.net website, and re download the launcher
#1946 [14:11] <hermit> and I had all the stuff I had on me
#1947 [14:11] <hermit> but the world is now completely reset
#1948 [14:11] <hermit> to the original state
#1949 [14:11] <Wept> Nevercast: Redownloaded about 2-3 times already.
#1950 [14:11] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, Then you're doing something wrong!
#1951 [14:11] <xales> Tram: the login servers are down. register your name to talk in the main channel
#1952 [14:12] <xales> NeverCast[Desktop]: can you take over for a minute so I can go make myself food? ._.
#1953 [14:12] <hermit> is my save completely gone?
#1954 [14:12] <hermit> I had a back up
#1955 [14:12] <NeverCast[Desktop]> xales, yeah mate.. Go for it
#1956 [14:12] <Tram> @xales why can i connect on minecraft.net then?
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#1958 [14:12] <xales> hermit: try replacing the backup
#1959 [14:12] <Wept> Let me check some things out, gonna look couple things up.
#1960 [14:12] <xales> Tram: only the login servesr are down
#1961 [14:12] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Tram, Minecraft.net is the webserver
#1962 [14:12] <Tram> ah ok
#1963 [14:12] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Tram, Not the login server
#1964 [14:12] <Tram> guess my friend where flaming me then, because they are able to login now.
#1965 [14:12] <hermit> if I had MCRegion already installed is that bad?
#1966 [14:12] <Tram> friends
#1967 [14:13] <xales> hermit: yes, it is
#1968 [14:13] <Wept> @Nevercast: Yeah, I am retarded. It was there.
#1969 [14:13] <hermit> wow yay
#1970 [14:13] <BarryCarlyon> new lighting engine is nice
#1971 [14:13] <hermit> I'm glad they said something in the update notes about that
#1972 [14:13] <hermit> u_u
#1973 [14:13] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, Good.. Now press that button
#1974 [14:13] <Wept> All done.
#1975 [14:13] <NeverCast[Desktop]> BarryCarlyon, 1.3 has new lighting engine?
#1976 [14:13] <BarryCarlyon> Yah NeverCast[Desktop]
#1977 [14:13] <xales> hermit: it pretty much goes without saying "using unofficial unsupported modifications might break things"
#1978 [14:13] <BarryCarlyon> Its so subtle and just nice looking.
#1979 [14:13] <Goobles> ya new shadows and stuff
#1980 [14:13] <NeverCast[Desktop]> BarryCarlyon, Is it a CPU whore?? or did the go with that AO type deal?
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#1982 [14:14] <hermit> an unsupported mod that he implemented?
#1983 [14:14] <WQLX> Hi
#1984 [14:14] <hermit> so they couldn't have mentioned it might completely destroy your saves
#1985 [14:14] <BarryCarlyon> NeverCast[Desktop]: running fun on my mactop at the moment
#1986 [14:14] <NeverCast[Desktop]> hermit, all mods are unsupported
#1987 [14:14] <hermit> that kinda sucks
#1988 [14:14] <xolotl> hermit: How could it be otherwise?
#1989 [14:14] <xolotl> hermit: Anyway, mcregion had a utility to de-regionize your data
#1990 [14:14] <NeverCast[Desktop]> hermit, They are MODS.. not addons
#1991 [14:14] <Nordas> im converted my main world :D
#1992 [14:14] <WQLX> I have download the latest version of the client but My server can't download the latest file
#1993 [14:14] <WQLX> where i can doanwload it
#1994 [14:14] <xolotl> hermit: If you ran that first, Minecraft should pick up your old world
#1995 [14:14] <xales> WQLX: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1996 [14:15] <hermit> I didn't run that first
#1997 [14:15] <hermit> e_e
#1998 [14:15] <cometen> how do you convert you wold
#1999 [14:15] <NeverCast[Desktop]> xales, you've still not left have you
#2000 [14:15] <xolotl> hermit: Clearly. :)
#2001 [14:15] <WQLX> When i run it
#2002 [14:15] <xales> I am now
#2003 [14:15] <BarryCarlyon> There are numbers on top of my squid o.0
#2004 [14:15] * xales /ignore *
#2004 [14:15] <NeverCast[Desktop]> :)
#2005 [14:15] <BarryCarlyon> No wait thats me
#2006 [14:15] <WQLX> It's not the latest .jar file
#2007 [14:15] <NeverCast[Desktop]> BarryCarlyon, everyone :P
#2008 [14:15] <BarryCarlyon> F3 not gets stuck on.
#2009 [14:15] <BarryCarlyon> s/not/now
#2010 [14:15] <WQLX> When i laucnh the serv with it i have an : Outdated server
#2011 [14:16] <BarryCarlyon> F3 for stats gives entity ids above hte entites.
#2012 [14:16] <NeverCast[Desktop]> WQLX, are you running windows?
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#2015 [14:16] <WQLX> Linux Ubuntu 10.10 server edition
#2016 [14:16] <NeverCast[Desktop]> WQLX, hence you need the Jar.. okay
#2017 [14:16] <NeverCast[Desktop]> WQLX, I'll download the Jar and have a look.. one moment
#2018 [14:16] <WQLX> k
#2019 [14:16] <Goobles> I'm going throught the port-forward tut. xales gave me but I dunno if I'm supposed to enter 225565 or my ip in the "forward to port" box
#2020 [14:17] <BarryCarlyon> Server load is less, my cpu usage is about the save NeverCast[Desktop]
#2021 [14:17] <NeverCast[Desktop]> WQLX, The Jar reports it is version 1.3
#2022 [14:17] <WQLX> So i have to delete all of my file server?
#2023 [14:17] <WQLX> :O
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#2025 [14:17] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Goobles, 25565 I think the port is
#2026 [14:17] <BarryCarlyon> all the eternal fires are out
#2027 [14:17] <Goobles> so not my ip?
#2028 [14:18] <hermit> so if you're in the Nether it also destroys crap?
#2029 [14:18] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Goobles, Can you upload a screen shot to something like tinypic.com and I'll let you know
#2030 [14:18] <Goobles> kk
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#2033 [14:18] <NeverCast[Desktop]> hermit, Only if you go into the Nether in Multiplayer I think
#2034 [14:18] <BarryCarlyon> Eternal fire has been fixed.
#2035 [14:18] <Czaqu> Hey guys, do You got problem with "Can't connect to minecraft.net" using new launcher?
#2036 [14:18] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Czaqu, The login servers are down
#2037 [14:18] <Wept> I've ran a server with LAN, but when my friend tries to run the same exact server (with the IP changed in the settings of server), I get a connection error. Why is that? Any clues?
#2038 [14:18] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Czaqu, You'll have to wait
#2039 [14:18] <caboos> i got problems with cant install it
#2040 [14:18] <Czaqu> that is sad :(
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#2042 [14:19] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, Don't set your IP in the properties at all
#2043 [14:19] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, It's not generally required
#2044 [14:19] <DjM1zw1z> How do you get Minecraft beta 1,3?
#2045 [14:19] <NeverCast[Desktop]> DjM1zw1z, You go to the website and download it
#2046 [14:19] <BarryCarlyon> you can walk on top of fences without getting stuck
#2047 [14:19] <DjM1zw1z> I still get 1.2_02
#2048 [14:19] <NeverCast[Desktop]> DjM1zw1z, http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#2050 [14:19] <NeverCast[Desktop]> BarryCarlyon, Really? That's good
#2051 [14:19] <caboos> for alot of ppl atm the install from the site dosent work at all
#2052 [14:19] <DjM1zw1z> oh
#2053 [14:19] <Czaqu> so there is no option to download minecraft and play it while i deleted old folder in %appdata%?
#2054 [14:19] <Wept> So I use the IP address of my friend 192.1.1.1:25565 for example, but leave the server-ip= empty in the settings?
#2055 [14:20] <NeverCast[Desktop]> caboos, they are probably doing it wrong...
#2056 [14:20] <DjM1zw1z> Ive tried it tons
#2057 [14:20] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, correct
#2058 [14:20] <BarryCarlyon> cart logic/bumpage still the same
#2059 [14:20] <Wept> @NeverCast Thanks
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#2061 [14:20] <caboos> im pretty sure i didten do it wrong..
#2062 [14:20] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, let me know if it works
#2063 [14:20] <caboos> but i would like some help anyways...
#2064 [14:21] <DjM1zw1z> its annoying
#2065 [14:21] <caboos> i go and download it from the site... when i dobble click the install nothing happens.. im running on Win7 64 bit
#2066 [14:21] <DjM1zw1z> i have the new launcher but not the new version
#2067 [14:21] <Wept> @NeverCast Still need to wait 'till MC servers back up :-) Will let know after tho!
#2068 [14:21] <BarryCarlyon> ops can set the world time!
#2069 [14:21] <caboos> tryed running as admin.. didten change anything
#2070 [14:21] <NeverCast[Desktop]> caboos, there isn't an install thing
#2071 [14:21] <Czaqu> DjM1zw1z, be happy that You can play :P
#2072 [14:22] <NeverCast[Desktop]> caboos, You don't install Minecraft
#2073 [14:22] <NeverCast[Desktop]> caboos, you just run it
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#2075 [14:22] <caboos> well i cant run it then
#2076 [14:22] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, Do you have the latest Java?
#2077 [14:22] <Wept> @Caboos: Is it a legal copy?
#2078 [14:22] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, He downloaded it from the site lol.
#2079 [14:22] <caboos> yeah.. i just bought it today
#2080 [14:22] <Wept> @NeverCast: I think so. Hasn't been telling me anything :o
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#2082 [14:23] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Oops that was meant for caboos, caboos. Do you have the latest Java?
#2083 [14:23] <caboos> im pretty sure i do.. let me check
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#2085 [14:24] <Czaqu> even if he has Java, he wont be able to download game while srever login is down...
#2086 [14:24] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Czaqu, He can't even get the launcher to start
#2087 [14:24] <Wept> The website is up & running.
#2088 [14:24] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, the website isn't the login server...
#2089 [14:24] <Goobles> NeverCast: here's the screenshot url: http://i55.tinypic.com/5k2iv8.jpg
#2090 [14:25] <Goobles> oops or the screenshot itself
#2091 [14:25] <Wept> Nevercast, Yes, but he still can download the game. I just re DL it & the server.
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#2093 [14:25] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Goobles, Yeah forward to port : 25565
#2094 [14:25] <Goobles> thanks
#2095 [14:25] <BarryCarlyon> shame no sandstone stairs
#2096 [14:25] <NeverCast[Desktop]> Wept, He's already downloaded it several times.. it's something else
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#2098 [14:25] <Czaqu> "re DL it & the server"??
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#2100 [14:26] <Wept> Czaqu, Minecraft_Server ?
#2101 [14:27] <Czaqu> Wept, i'll be able to play SP?
#2102 [14:27] <Wept> On the server? Yeah if you want to.
#2103 [14:27] <Czaqu> checkin
#2104 [14:29] <Wept> Though, while minecraft servers being down, the server won't run. Atleast for me it's returning loads of errors.
#2105 [14:29] <nevercast> Wept, You can run the server in offline mode
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#2108 [14:29] <nevercast> Wept, and if you've played the game before and still have game files
#2109 [14:29] <nevercast> Wept, You can run the client in offline mode too
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#2112 [14:30] <Wept> I can run minecraft in offline mode no problem, but the server just returns me loads of errors about minecraft.net
#2113 [14:30] <BarryCarlyon> On the up side my server backup script works perfect still
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#2115 [14:30] <nevercast> Wept, Go into Server.proeprties
#2116 [14:30] <Wept> put online-mode=off y?
#2117 [14:30] <Wept> false *
#2118 [14:30] <sansa11> xales?
#2119 [14:30] <xales> yes?
#2120 [14:30] <nevercast> Wept, correct
#2121 [14:31] <sansa11> doesnt even work on my pc..
#2122 [14:31] <bread> hi xales o/
#2123 [14:31] <bread> :P
#2124 [14:31] <xales> hi bread
#2125 [14:31] <xales> :(
#2126 [14:31] <nevercast> bread nom nom
#2127 [14:31] <xales> sansa11: it doesnt work for anyone right now
#2128 [14:31] <BarryCarlyon> On the subject of beds, you can only use them at night
#2129 [14:31] <xales> just wait
#2130 [14:31] <bread> hey cheer up xales :)
#2131 [14:31] <nevercast> xales, did you get that food?
#2132 [14:31] <xales> nevercast, yes
#2133 [14:31] <Czaqu> ehhh
#2134 [14:31] <bread> and I'm getting a 500 error on login too D:
#2135 [14:31] <Czaqu> ok Notch, i belive in you and other guys... fix that quick... :(
#2136 [14:32] <nevercast> Wept, once the server and client are running in offline mode. You can play without minecraft.net :D
#2137 [14:32] <firerat> So it's not just me that can't log in...
#2138 [14:32] <Czaqu> eyp
#2139 [14:32] <nevercast> Wept, but it also means that bad people can also connect to your server because they don't get checked by minecraft.net
#2140 [14:32] <Czaqu> whe all are in pain now :(
#2141 [14:32] <firerat> I saw the update got excitted and I want to play :(
#2142 [14:32] <nevercast> No one can login Currently due to login server being down :)
#2143 [14:32] <bread> \o/
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#2145 [14:32] <Czaqu> now i know how addicted i'm to minecraft ^^
#2146 [14:33] <Wept> nevercast, it won't give me the different files, eg server.props because of it not connecting anywhere :p so it can't just generate the files :-( as i re DL the server and deleted the one that was before.
#2147 [14:33] <sansa11> xales?.. cant connect to minecraft.net on both pcs
#2148 [14:33] <xales> sansa11: I know
#2149 [14:33] <xales> i already said
#2150 [14:33] <xales> nobody can connect
#2151 [14:33] <sansa11> ? my friends can..
#2152 [14:33] <nevercast> xales, make you wanna rage.
#2153 [14:33] <nevercast> sansa, no they can't
#2154 [14:34] <Czaqu> soooo, what normaly people can do while not playin minecraft? :) xD
#2155 [14:34] <Wept> log into WoW and jump around OG.
#2156 [14:34] <bread> xales help me I can't connect
#2157 [14:34] <bread> :P
#2158 [14:34] <nevercast> Czaqu, Go outside and try not to burn up in the sun?
#2159 [14:34] <Czaqu> i'm ally , SW only maan :P
#2160 [14:34] <xales> bread: nou
#2161 [14:34] * nevercast slaps bread because xales is exausted
#2161 [14:34] <bread> \o/
#2162 [14:34] <Wept> :-(
#2163 [14:34] <sansa11> sure.. a girlfriend said there is a video in the middle of the site etc.. like minecraft.net and she doesnt knew the site before
#2164 [14:35] <Wept> so you can't log onto the website or the game?
#2165 [14:35] <nevercast> sansa11, The website ISN'T the login server.
#2166 [14:35] <Czaqu> but i'm borred while Cataclyusm...
#2167 [14:35] <sansa11> website ...
#2168 [14:35] <WQLX> It's not the latest version
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#2170 [14:35] <Wept> i'm not. 9/12.
#2171 [14:35] * lemon-rev thinks minecraft.net - not avalibe in topic should be in there, then if people cant read that, then, i think, they orda be kicked, till its up again
#2171 [14:35] <WQLX> When i lauch the server
#2172 [14:35] <Czaqu> whoa
#2173 [14:35] <sansa11> it sent me to another site
#2174 [14:35] <Czaqu> gratz then :)
#2175 [14:35] <WQLX> outdated version
#2176 [14:35] <Czaqu> GS?
#2177 [14:35] <nevercast> lemon-rev, Agree
#2178 [14:35] <Wept> idk, 356 iL i think.
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#2180 [14:36] <reedlepee> Hello!
#2181 [14:36] <Czaqu> not bad, not bad :p
#2182 [14:36] <Czaqu> class?
#2183 [14:36] <reedlepee> Can anyone help me please?
#2184 [14:36] <nevercast> ?? ask
#2185 [14:36] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2186 [14:36] <lemon-rev> with ?
#2187 [14:36] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2189 [14:37] <reedlepee> Sorry but how do i update my old server to 1.3?
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#2191 [14:37] <lemon-rev> wait till you can connect
#2192 [14:37] <Czaqu> Wept, you play DK?
#2193 [14:37] <lemon-rev> you silly boy,
#2194 [14:37] * Altazimuth 's question are answered by AuBot, hooray for AuBot
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#2195 [14:37] <Wept> @Czaqu Look private chat
#2196 [14:37] <sansa11> when i went to the website over a proxy then i can log in an all those things
#2197 [14:37] <xales> reedlepee: just download the .exe or .jar
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#2199 [14:37] <xales> sansa11: just wait.
#2200 [14:38] <reedlepee> I know but then my world is going to get deleted...
#2201 [14:38] <nevercast> reedlepee, No it's not
#2202 [14:38] <lulle> The client wont let me connect ;/
#2203 [14:38] <nevercast> lulle, Yeah that's because the site is down
#2204 [14:38] <lulle> Oh
#2205 [14:38] <lulle> I just read
#2206 [14:38] <lulle> :P
#2207 [14:38] <nevercast> lulle, You'll have to wait like the other 194 people here lol.
#2208 [14:38] <Mikau> dag nabbit
#2209 [14:39] <lulle> Any idea when its gonna work?
#2210 [14:39] <Mikau> I just updated my server to v1.3
#2211 [14:39] <Mikau> and then minecraft.net goes down
#2212 [14:39] <nevercast> no idea, lulle
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#2214 [14:39] <Mikau> Damn you minecraft, you timed that perfectly
#2215 [14:39] <Goobles> nevercast: so i did that now should my ip be the same for my mcserver?
#2216 [14:39] <nevercast> Mikau, Yeah minecraft is a bitch
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#2218 [14:39] <nevercast> Goobles, ehh what?
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#2220 [14:39] <Goobles> is neverecast the same as nevercastdesktop?
#2221 [14:39] <reedlepee> I'am sooo sorry! I had my other server online then it didn't work! So sorry!
#2222 [14:39] <nevercast> Goobles, Yes
#2223 [14:40] <nevercast> reedlepee, It's fine.
#2224 [14:40] <reedlepee> Bye.
#2225 [14:40] <Mikau> I swear, the server is in tune with my computer and knows when I'm going to play.
#2226 [14:40] <nevercast> reedlepee, Just be patient and wait for the server to come back up
#2227 [14:40] <Goobles> i was doin the port forward thing, i finished and now I want to nkow if it worked
#2228 [14:40] <nevercast> Mikau, Or it's always down and you always wanna play?
#2229 [14:40] <Goobles> if i give u my ip can u try it?
#2230 [14:40] <Mikau> Either that, or someone over at Mojang is watching me.
#2231 [14:40] <nevercast> Goobles, Right.. Is the server online?
#2232 [14:40] * Mikau takes off his pants.
#2232 [14:40] <Goobles> will be in a sec
#2233 [14:40] <nevercast> Goobles, Also is it running in offline mode?
#2234 [14:40] <Mikau> That'll stop that right quick.
#2235 [14:40] <Goobles> no
#2236 [14:41] <nevercast> Goobles, Login server is down, you'll have to run it in offline mode
#2237 [14:41] <Goobles> kk
#2238 [14:41] <nevercast> xales, Lol tobias is trying to fix the login server via his iPhone.. He's a good bitch!
#2239 [14:41] <Goobles> gimme a min
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#2241 [14:42] <xales> nevercast: xD
#2242 [14:42] <Nordas> my mc is broken D:
#2243 [14:43] <Nordas> it keeps closing down
#2244 [14:43] <nevercast> Nordas, what do you mean closing down?
#2245 [14:43] <nevercast> Nordas, also. Have you updated to version 1.3?
#2246 [14:43] <Nordas> i think so
#2247 [14:43] <nevercast> Nordas, Another note: You wont be able to play until the minecraft.net servers are back up
#2248 [14:43] <sansa11> but why can my friends can see the site ?P!
#2249 [14:43] <nevercast> Nordas, but regardless.. What do you mean closing down/
#2250 [14:44] <Nordas> i go into my world
#2251 [14:44] <nevercast> sansa11, *SIGH*..
#2252 [14:44] <Nordas> play on it for about a minute
#2253 [14:44] <Nordas> and the whole mc windows closes down
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#2255 [14:44] <sansa11> <.<
#2256 [14:44] <nevercast> sansa11, The SITE server is not the same as the LOGIN server.. :)
#2257 [14:44] <nevercast> wait... sansa11, You can see the http://minecraft.net/
#2258 [14:44] <nevercast> right
#2259 [14:45] <sansa11> no
#2260 [14:45] <Mikau> Kealper
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#2262 [14:45] <nevercast> lolwat
#2263 [14:45] <sansa11> thats the point
#2264 [14:45] <nevercast> sansa11, can you see http://google.com/
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#2266 [14:45] <Crafterfr33> Ekhm, hello, I have problem with game launcher
#2267 [14:45] <sansa11> nah i dont google this problem <.<
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#2269 [14:45] <Crafterfr33> It always says "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2270 [14:45] <nevercast> sansa11, I wasn't being a smart ass.. I was asking if other websites are working
#2271 [14:45] <sansa11> yes
#2272 [14:45] <nevercast> Crafterfr33, Yeah the login server is down
#2273 [14:45] <sansa11> ...
#2274 [14:45] <nevercast> Crafterfr33, You'll just have to wait
#2275 [14:46] <Crafterfr33> :/
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#2277 [14:46] <Crafterfr33> Do you know for how long?
#2278 [14:46] <nevercast> sansa11, Then I have no idea.. I've had no other reports about the website being unreachable
#2279 [14:46] <Altazimuth> Do we have some way of knowing when login servers are up ASAP?
#2280 [14:46] <nevercast> Crafterfr33, No idea
#2281 [14:46] <nevercast> Altazimuth, Follow twitter
#2282 [14:46] <sansa11> i cant connect from my pc or laptop <.<
#2283 [14:46] <sansa11> thats so annoying..
#2284 [14:47] <xales> that's what you get for playing it illegally
#2285 [14:47] <sansa11> i bought it now damn!
#2286 [14:47] <nevercast> http://twitter.com/#!/nvrcast/minecraft'
#2287 [14:47] <Altazimuth> exactly which member of Mojang should I follow?
#2288 [14:47] <xales> sansa11: it doesn't know that
#2289 [14:47] <xales> Altazimuth: mollstam
#2290 [14:47] <nevercast> Altazimuth, http://twitter.com/#!/nvrcast/minecraft
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#2293 [14:48] <Goobles> NeverCast: so turn online mode: false?
#2294 [14:48] <sansa11> i want my money back :S
#2295 [14:48] <nevercast> Goobles, yes
#2296 [14:48] <Goobles> kk
#2297 [14:48] <nevercast> sansa11, have some patience
#2298 [14:48] <xales> sansa11: it doesn't work mostly because you played it illegally
#2299 [14:48] <nevercast> xales, he did?
#2300 [14:48] <mib_nl4ju5> every evening same problems :(
#2301 [14:48] <xales> you can't blame them for what you did
#2302 [14:49] <xales> nevercast: it doesn't work because his computer is FUBAR from the pirated version
#2303 [14:49] <xales> it's not just a hosts file thing
#2304 [14:49] <nevercast> OHHHH
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#2306 [14:49] <xales> it totally fucked up his computer
#2307 [14:49] <Goobles> kk Nevercast u can join
#2308 [14:49] <nevercast> Yeah that'd do it
#2309 [14:49] <nevercast> and the hosts file would explain the unable to load the website thing
#2310 [14:49] <sansa11> I am on my pc.. i only have minecraft illegaly on my laptop..
#2311 [14:50] <nevercast> sansa11, well it sounds like you played it on your pc too?
#2312 [14:50] <sansa11> no
#2313 [14:50] <sansa11> never
#2314 [14:50] <nevercast> sansa11, go to C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\
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#2316 [14:50] <fogWraith> Bethesda <3
#2317 [14:50] <fogWraith> http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/02/18/ladies-and-gentlemen-start-your-creation-engines/
#2318 [14:50] <bamhm182> Hey
#2319 [14:50] <nevercast> sansa11, if you see a hosts file, open it.. If you don't you'll have to enable hidden files and folders
#2320 [14:51] <Goobles> Nevercast: do u need the ip?
#2321 [14:51] <bamhm182> Can people hear me in this room?
#2322 [14:51] <nevercast> Goobles, Is it on the computer you're using now?
#2323 [14:51] <sansa11> is open..
#2324 [14:51] <Goobles> ya
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#2326 [14:51] <nevercast> Goobles, send me your ip via private message
#2327 [14:51] <nevercast> sansa11, do you see a file called hosts
#2328 [14:51] <sansa11> yea
#2329 [14:51] <bamhm182> Awesome. Either they were ignoring me or my messages weren't going through in the #minecraft channel
#2330 [14:51] <nevercast> sansa11, open it
#2331 [14:51] <Quaid> Do I have to log in to play on a friend's server?
#2332 [14:51] <nevercast> sansa11, notepad or what ever
#2333 [14:52] <Goobles> kk, i just want to see if other ppl can join, u don't have to stay long
#2334 [14:52] <Quaid> ie is logging in necessary?
#2335 [14:52] <sansa11> is
#2336 [14:52] <Wept> Quaid, no if the server is not in online mode.
#2337 [14:52] <sansa11> it is
#2338 [14:52] <nevercast> sansa11, now copy that and put it on http://pastebin.com
#2339 [14:52] <bamhm182> Either way, I've got a question some of you can help me out with hopefully. I know in previous versions of the beta, if you bought it, you'd get free updates for life. Is that true with buying the current version?
#2340 [14:52] <Wept> yes
#2341 [14:52] <Wept> *
#2342 [14:52] <nevercast> sansa11, give me the link after
#2343 [14:52] <Wept> QUaid, YES if the server is not in online mode.
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#2345 [14:53] <nevercast> bamhm182, Yeah I have no idea.. I think it is but idk
#2346 [14:53] <nevercast> welcome back Caboos
#2347 [14:53] <bamhm182> nevercast, thanks for the reply.
#2348 [14:53] <cyphez> is minecraft down by any chance?
#2349 [14:53] <cyphez> can't connect
#2350 [14:53] <nevercast> cyphez, correct
#2351 [14:54] <Caboos> finally got minecraft to work.. worked fine after i downloaded the new java.. thanks alot for the help
#2352 [14:54] <Quaid> Thanks Wept.
#2353 [14:54] <nevercast> cyphez, Not sure when it'll be up
#2354 [14:54] <Goobles> how do i send pm...
#2355 [14:54] <cyphez> ah shame :(
#2356 [14:54] <sansa11> nevercast u have pm..
#2357 [14:54] <nevercast> yes I see that
#2358 [14:54] <Goobles> private message
#2359 [14:54] <cyphez> but within an hour it wil or?
#2360 [14:55] <Goobles> 192.168.1.65 Plz join and leave if u can get on
#2361 [14:55] <Caboos> but anyways. i started a server via the minecraft client.. how can my friends join that?
#2362 [14:55] <Goobles> shit
#2363 [14:55] <nevercast> Goobles, LOL
#2364 [14:55] <Goobles> nvm wrong box
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#2366 [14:55] <nevercast> Goobles, that's your private ip not public
#2367 [14:55] <Goobles> what's public then?
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#2369 [14:56] <nevercast> Goobles, http://whatismyip.org/
#2370 [14:56] <Goobles> cand can u clear chat so pedos don't see it plz?
#2371 [14:57] <nevercast> Goobles, LOL WHAT?
#2372 [14:57] <nevercast> Goobles, Mate... You're wake
#2373 [14:58] <nevercast> *wack
#2374 [14:58] <Goobles> can it be used to like do weird stuff to my pc?
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#2376 [14:58] <Tweakd> ah :)
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#2379 [14:59] <Goobles> NeverCraft: i sent u the real one in pm, sorry
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#2381 [15:00] <nevercast> Goobles, it's okay I'm connecting now
#2382 [15:00] <Goobles> THANX
#2383 [15:00] <EchoVelocity> whats happened with the mouse movement since the 1.3 update?
#2384 [15:00] <Goobles> oops caps
#2385 [15:01] <nevercast> lol what
#2386 [15:01] <EchoVelocity> has it changed for anyone else or is it just me
#2387 [15:01] <nevercast> okay...
#2388 [15:01] <nevercast> Goobles, I can't play until the login server is up
#2389 [15:01] <nevercast> Goobles, although I have the latest launcher I don't have the latest minecraft
#2390 [15:01] <Goobles> is it something "I" messed up or is Mc.net down?
#2391 [15:01] <EchoVelocity> you can download and play the update if you run minecraft.exe without the launcher
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#2393 [15:01] <Goobles> oh
#2394 [15:01] <nevercast> Goobles, it wasn't you.. It's just because mc is down
#2395 [15:01] <bamhm182> So as was mentioned earlier, minecraft is down ATM. If I downloaded the offline launcher, would I be able to play it?
#2396 [15:02] <Goobles> kk, ty anyway
#2397 [15:02] <nevercast> bamhm182, No
#2398 [15:02] <bamhm182> D:
#2399 [15:02] <Crafterfr33> So login server is still down...
#2400 [15:02] <nevercast> bamhm182, Even with the new launcher, you still only play the old client until the launcher downloads the new one
#2401 [15:02] <Goobles> I'll put it back to online and get my friend to try joining when evrything works again
#2402 [15:02] <nevercast> Crafterfr33, correct
#2403 [15:02] <Goobles> thanx for ur time seeya
#2404 [15:02] <nevercast> Goobles, welcome
#2405 [15:02] <bamhm182> Oh well, hopefully it'll be back up soon...
#2406 [15:02] <EchoVelocity> but my launcher DID download the new one
#2407 [15:02] <nevercast> EchoVelocity, When?
#2408 [15:02] <nevercast> EchoVelocity, Recently?
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#2410 [15:03] <EchoVelocity> if you run the client WITHOUT the launcher it still downloads the update
#2411 [15:03] <bamhm182> nevercase, wait, so I would be able to play an old client?
#2412 [15:03] <Spara> Oh good, im not the only person with the problem
#2413 [15:03] <nevercast> bamhm182, You can play 1.2 yeah
#2414 [15:03] <Mikau> Anyone able to log into the client?
#2415 [15:03] <bamhm182> I'm fine with that for a bit....
#2416 [15:03] <Mikau> I can't, yet someone else can
#2417 [15:03] <nevercast> Spara, Everyone has the problem
#2418 [15:03] <nevercast> Mikau, No one can login
#2419 [15:03] <Spara> Bad, but good to know.
#2420 [15:03] <nevercast> EchoVelocity, Okay..
#2421 [15:03] <bamhm182> brb, need to get into Windows
#2422 [15:03] <Spara> Thanks, Nevercast.
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#2424 [15:03] <XenonLightz> Hello
#2425 [15:03] <EchoVelocity> the mouse movement seems weird though - its almost like you add momentum when you move the mouse instead of it just moving
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#2427 [15:04] <EchoVelocity> anyone else have that problem?
#2428 [15:05] <EchoVelocity> @nevercast you understand?
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#2430 [15:05] <XenonLightz> Just a rumor that torches stop lighting after a while?
#2431 [15:05] <nevercast> EchoVelocity, I've not run the latest client yet
#2432 [15:05] <nevercast> EchoVelocity, So Idk
#2433 [15:05] <EchoVelocity> ok
#2434 [15:05] <xales> press F8
#2435 [15:06] <EchoVelocity> xales, what?
#2436 [15:06] <xales> EchoVelocity: press F8 in Minecraft
#2437 [15:07] <kermi> the loginserver is down for a week now, right?
#2438 [15:07] <xales> kermi: a week?
#2439 [15:07] <xales> who told you that
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#2441 [15:08] <Quaid> Is there any way to get the offline version without logging in? I just bought it and can't download it without login server.
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#2443 [15:08] <RF> If by "week" you mean "hour" yes
#2444 [15:08] <xales> Quaid: nope
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#2446 [15:08] <RF> otherwise, no
#2447 [15:08] <kermi> i guess
#2448 [15:08] <aetherian> hey
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#2454 [15:11] <BarryCarlyon> New minecraft tumblr
#2455 [15:11] <BarryCarlyon> 
#2456 [15:11] <BarryCarlyon> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
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#2458 [15:12] <BarryCarlyon> AuBot: o.0
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#2460 [15:14] <mib_bvpvr6> loginservers are still down?
#2461 [15:14] <kermi> yes until june
#2462 [15:14] <mib_bvpvr6> ;)
#2463 [15:15] <nevercast> lol
#2464 [15:15] <EchoVelocity> mib_bvpvr6, yes seems so
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#2467 [15:15] <Jorc> how do i unstall mc?
#2468 [15:16] <cyphez> remove .minecraft if you want to remove everything
#2469 [15:16] <cyphez> and launch it again
#2470 [15:16] <cyphez> I guess?
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#2473 [15:18] <Jorc> Any OP's able to do the command that shows you how to uninstall?
#2474 [15:18] <Caboos> why is my minecraft running 1.2 and not 1.3?
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#2476 [15:18] <InS4Ne> Hello is the Minecraft server curently down ?
#2477 [15:18] <xales> Caboos: did you update it?
#2478 [15:18] <xales> InS4Ne: yes
#2479 [15:18] <Caboos> downloaded it 30 min ago
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#2482 [15:18] <xales> Jorc: anyone can do it
#2483 [15:18] <Jorc> Caboos, close minecraft and reboot it and it should update automatically
#2484 [15:18] <InS4Ne> Omg oO
#2485 [15:18] <Jorc> !uninstall
#2486 [15:18] <xales> Caboos: downloaded it from...
#2487 [15:18] <Jorc> what is it then?
#2488 [15:18] <xales> ? win/reinst
#2489 [15:18] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#2490 [15:18] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2491 [15:18] <InS4Ne> how i can find active Server for minecraft ?
#2492 [15:18] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2493 [15:18] <Caboos> downloaded it from the site
#2494 [15:18] <xales> InS4Ne: None of them work. the login server is down
#2495 [15:19] <xales> Caboos: minecraft.net?
#2496 [15:19] <Caboos> yeah
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#2498 [15:19] <InS4Ne> Yes bud for about 1 Our i have search the login was Online i just find offline servers...
#2499 [15:19] <xales> just wait till the login servers come back up I guess
#2500 [15:19] <InS4Ne> 1 hour ?*
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#2503 [15:19] <Caboos> just tryed to reopen it.. did nothing
#2504 [15:19] <InS4Ne> thx
#2505 [15:19] <Tignus> hey
#2506 [15:19] <xales> hi
#2507 [15:19] <Caboos> yeah i guess ill wait
#2508 [15:19] <Tignus> do you need to update your server.exe ?
#2509 [15:20] * Kealper has returned!
#2509 [15:20] <xales> yes
#2510 [15:20] <BarryCarlyon> I can still login, I'm on the old/original launcher.
#2511 [15:20] <Tignus> how ?
#2512 [15:20] <xales> Tignus: just download the new one from minecraft.net
#2513 [15:20] <Jorc> How do I get the new launcher ?
#2514 [15:20] <Jorc> oh.
#2515 [15:20] <xales> Jorc: download it from minecraft.net
#2516 [15:20] <Tignus> i'll try thanks
#2517 [15:20] <Kealper> so...did schmidt hit the fan on this update?
#2518 [15:20] <xales> Kealper: you missed the shitstorm of 9999 people needing help
#2519 [15:20] <xales> at once.
#2520 [15:20] <Kealper> XD
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#2522 [15:20] <Kealper> when did that happen?
#2523 [15:20] <mib_i0235s> hi
#2524 [15:20] <xales> bout an hour ago
#2525 [15:20] <xales> hi
#2526 [15:21] <cyphez> this is how you start the server correctly ye?
#2527 [15:21] <cyphez> "C:\Game Files\Minecraft\Minecraft_server.exe" Minecraft_Server.exe java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2528 [15:21] <xales> no
#2529 [15:21] <xales> if you are using the exe
#2530 [15:21] <BarryCarlyon> xales: that is like over 9000!
#2531 [15:21] <xales> just double click on it
#2532 [15:21] <InS4Ne> and how i open texture packs ?
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#2534 [15:21] <InS4Ne> i have download a world
#2535 [15:21] <CoLoN> is 1.3 on the site?
#2536 [15:21] <Crafterfr33> Login server still down?
#2537 [15:21] <a2895> hi
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#2539 [15:21] <xales> Crafterfr33: yes
#2540 [15:21] <xales> a2895: hi
#2541 [15:22] <Crafterfr33> xales Damn you :D
#2542 [15:22] <xales> CoLoN: The launcher downloads it
#2543 [15:22] <CoLoN> yea i know but still
#2544 [15:22] <a2895> eem why i cant connect to any servers?
#2545 [15:22] <cyphez> minecraft site's down ye? at least the forum
#2546 [15:22] <xales> InS4Ne: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_pack#Installation
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#2548 [15:22] <xales> a2895: the login server is down
#2549 [15:23] <xales> cyphez: the forums aren't connected to minecraft.net in any way
#2550 [15:23] <a2895> and now i cant play?
#2551 [15:23] <xales> they aren't even official
#2552 [15:23] <cyphez> xales: I read a thread regarding some stuff (this was before the beta though) to launch the server with some other neat tweaks with java scripts to make it less laggy
#2553 [15:23] <xales> a2895: yes. nobody can. the servers are down. you can play singleplayer
#2554 [15:23] <InS4Ne> How i open texture packs ?
#2555 [15:23] <xales> cyphez: that is the jar
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#2557 [15:23] <InS4Ne> i have download a World froim Internet
#2558 [15:23] <CoLoN> can't you just turn off authentication?
#2559 [15:23] <xales> InS4Ne: what does downloading a world have to do with texture packs?
#2560 [15:23] <a2895> lol but some other players can ply ^^
#2561 [15:23] <a2895> *play
#2562 [15:23] <InS4Ne> Yes its a folder with World3
#2563 [15:24] <InS4Ne> and than a
#2564 [15:24] <InS4Ne> b
#2565 [15:24] <InS4Ne> c
#2566 [15:24] <Kealper> gimme a few to get settled in then i'll start pitching in help again
#2567 [15:24] <InS4Ne> and 0a 0b
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#2569 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> any idea why the login server isnt working?
#2570 [15:24] <InS4Ne> and i open it its a .dat
#2571 [15:24] <xales> SkiingPenguins: because too many people are using it :P
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#2573 [15:24] <xales> InS4Ne: that is not a texture pack
#2574 [15:25] <cyphez> xales: that clears some things up :) you basically launch it then like I linked but with the jar?
#2575 [15:25] <xales> cyphez: not really
#2576 [15:25] <InS4Ne> its a world ^^ but how i can open it can i post a link from Video _?
#2577 [15:25] <ciaron> can i rollback mc to 1.2?
#2578 [15:25] <SkiingPenguins> xales is there ever going to be a server good enough to deal with all the clients? O_o
#2579 [15:25] <xales> "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2580 [15:25] <xales> SkiingPenguins: soon
#2581 [15:25] <xales> ciaron: no
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#2583 [15:25] <a2895> ok im going now bye guys
#2584 [15:25] <xales> InS4Ne: you have to put it in the save folder
#2585 [15:25] <xales> ?? win/.minecraft
#2586 [15:25] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2587 [15:26] <InS4Ne> in a rar folder ?
#2588 [15:26] <cyphez> ok thanks
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#2590 [15:26] <ciaron> damnmit
#2591 [15:26] <xales> InS4Ne: no
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#2593 [15:27] <InS4Ne> i dont understand it :D that ist the problem :)
#2594 [15:27] <xales> InS4Ne: there is really not much else to say
#2595 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - Start from the beginning, did you get a 'world1' or world2' folder from the download
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#2597 [15:27] <InS4Ne> World 3
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#2599 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - Great. Now, press the Windows+R key on your keyboard
#2600 [15:28] <InS4Ne> its a boy how have "code" it
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#2602 [15:28] <deviante> when will the server be back?
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#2604 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - Type in: %appdata%
#2605 [15:28] <Litehammer> who knows?
#2606 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Then go find the .minecraft folder, inside is the saves folder, correct?
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#2610 [15:28] <deviante> the guy who got the money?
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#2612 [15:28] <InS4Ne> yes i have put the folder on texture ...
#2613 [15:29] <Altazimuth> Time to pull out my list of mods and update them
#2614 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - No, you put world3 inside the saves folder
#2615 [15:29] <Kealper> InS4Ne: if you can't understand this, you should not be doing it
#2616 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> It's not a texture pack
#2617 [15:29] <InS4Ne> ok i try it
#2618 [15:30] <ItsCriminal> got the problem still with the server, its still out of date even i downloaded the newest server jar
#2619 [15:30] <Kealper> it's starting to look like a TrippleRonbow!
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#2621 [15:30] <xales> ItsCriminal: are you using bukkit?
#2622 [15:30] <ItsCriminal> yes
#2623 [15:30] <Kealper> that's why
#2624 [15:30] <xales> bukkit doesn't work with 1.3
#2625 [15:30] * Altazimuth wants Minecraft to produce rainbows
#2625 [15:31] <ItsCriminal> ok good
#2626 [15:31] <InS4Ne> ok i have put it but he didnt show it
#2627 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - You put the "world3" folder inside the 'saves' folder, correct?
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#2629 [15:31] <InS4Ne> Yes
#2630 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - Then it should work.
#2631 [15:32] <InS4Ne> but it didnt
#2632 [15:32] <InS4Ne> i have creat a newworld
#2633 [15:32] <InS4Ne> an in the save folder it is the world3 and the newworld
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#2635 [15:32] <InS4Ne> but ingame just saw newworld
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#2637 [15:33] <mjeagleson> Hey does anyone else crash on load?
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#2639 [15:33] <kermit> Everyone
#2640 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> mjeagleson - no
#2641 [15:33] <kermit> login server are down, right?
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#2643 [15:34] <mjeagleson> Is anyone else on mac?
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#2645 [15:34] <ciaron> xales: windows restore to the rescue
#2646 [15:34] <kermit> Linux...close enough?
#2647 [15:34] <mjeagleson> I can't go into a world, or make a new one. it keeps crashing
#2648 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> mjeagleson - Can you pastebin.com the error?
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#2650 [15:34] <mjeagleson> it comes up with the blue-bordered window for a fraction of a second and then just crashes
#2651 [15:34] <arensirb> kermit: dont swear in church
#2652 [15:35] <arensirb> :P
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#2655 [15:35] <Altazimuth> Who makes ToolsUtils again?
#2656 [15:35] <Anthro> hey i cant connect to minecraft.net
#2657 [15:35] <Altazimuth> Login server
#2658 [15:36] <nay> i been wiat 2 hour to play load bs
#2659 [15:36] <Voki> mc is down right?
#2660 [15:36] <mib_glbonw> It's all down at the moment
#2661 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#2662 [15:36] <kermit> Autobot said it
#2663 [15:36] <Anthro> damn i knew that would happen
#2664 [15:36] <mib_glbonw> We'll just have to wait until they resolve it.
#2665 [15:36] <mjeagleson> i wonder if thats my issue
#2666 [15:36] <kermit> we're screwd
#2667 [15:36] <Voki> but the website is up
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#2669 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net works for me, I've updated my client, works just fine
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#2671 [15:36] <Kealper> login stuff is swamped because everyone is trying to log in to check out the new update
#2672 [15:36] <mib_glbonw> Server and site run on different machines
#2673 [15:37] <mib_glbonw> Somehow the server is offline
#2674 [15:37] <mib_glbonw> and the site still runs.
#2675 [15:37] <Anthro> well apperntly greyvulpine is special
#2676 [15:37] <nay> mc.net should runw ith the severs
#2677 [15:37] <mib_go24m3> some copies work some dont, we'll have to wait for notch to give us an update, which will most likely be tomorrow
#2678 [15:37] <nay> its the login sever thats down
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#2680 [15:38] <kermit> on a completly unrealed topic, is anyone running MC on Linux (Debian) and having issues with Xorg eating up the whole damn processor after a while?
#2681 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay, I'm going to do this, I'm going to upload my old minecraft client to dropbox
#2682 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> It still works
#2683 [15:38] * Kealper uses windoze
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#2684 [15:39] <Kealper> oh, is it just the new launcher that is failing?
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#2686 [15:39] <nay> ye i back mine up and it still works but now it says cannot connect
#2687 [15:39] <mib_glbonw> No, it is the login server
#2688 [15:39] <nay> :P
#2689 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13338072/Minecraft.exe
#2690 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Use that client
#2691 [15:39] <ciaron> funny you should say that, i was using the old launcher earlier and i'm sure it worked fine
#2692 [15:39] <Kealper> brotips: new launcher uses new login server
#2693 [15:39] <SkiingPenguins> o.o
#2694 [15:39] <kermit> playing offline is still possible
#2695 [15:39] <nay> i can still use the old one
#2696 [15:39] <TJjokerR> Where can I get the updated minecraft_server.jar ?
#2697 [15:39] <nay> but its out of date now lol
#2698 [15:40] <mib_glbonw> TJjokerR, from the site.
#2699 [15:40] <mib_glbonw> oh, nvm
#2700 [15:40] <TJjokerR> It's not the latest one
#2701 [15:40] <mib_glbonw> Well, it said 1.3
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#2703 [15:40] <mib_glbonw> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.3
#2704 [15:40] <xales> TJjokerR: are you using Bukkit?
#2705 [15:40] <TJjokerR> Yes
#2706 [15:40] <ciaron> there any way of disabling autoupdate in the old launcher?
#2707 [15:40] <xales> that's why it doesn't work
#2708 [15:40] <TJjokerR> Ah
#2709 [15:41] <xales> Bukkit doesn't support 1.3
#2710 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> ciaron - Nope
#2711 [15:41] <nay> this game is so badly updated :/
#2712 [15:41] <TJjokerR> Thanks
#2713 [15:41] <CoLoN> how do i open up an older version of minecraft
#2714 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> CoLoN - You can't
#2715 [15:41] <CoLoN> :/
#2716 [15:41] <mib_6nescm> should my launcher b able to connect
#2717 [15:41] <nay> no
#2718 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> The new one apparently doesn't
#2719 [15:41] <ciaron> well i restored an old version of .minecraft in windows - that worked
#2720 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13338072/Minecraft.exe
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#2722 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Try that one
#2723 [15:41] <ciaron> back on 1.2_02
#2724 [15:41] <kermit> any old .jar laucher around?
#2725 [15:41] <Altazimuth> How do I use skybot to find dl links for mods?
#2726 [15:42] <nay> imo n 1.2_2 as well but beforwe i was on 1.3
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#2728 [15:42] <LRWerewolf> Ohhhh yes, this new lighting engine is spectacular.
#2729 [15:42] <kermit> not funny
#2730 [15:42] <CoLoN> LRWerewolf do u have ss's?
#2731 [15:42] <kermit> not funny at all, you made me cry Werewolf
#2732 [15:43] <mib_6nescm> i wanna play so bad
#2733 [15:43] <LRWerewolf> CoLoN, ss's?
#2734 [15:43] <CoLoN> screenshots
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#2736 [15:43] <mib_6nescm> ya screen shot or didnt happen
#2737 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13338072/Minecraft.exe
#2738 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Use that client
#2739 [15:43] <blaphmat> hi
#2740 [15:43] <nay> i aint using drop box
#2741 [15:43] <CoLoN> nvm i guess ur playing on single player
#2742 [15:43] <Anthro> grey the game works fien for me now too
#2743 [15:43] <nay> id rather the real thing
#2744 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Meh, your loss
#2745 [15:43] <ciaron> GreyVulpine: is that the old launcher?
#2746 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2748 [15:43] <LRWerewolf> Oh, no, just logged on the web client. Not sure where I could put an ss even if I had one so you could access it.
#2749 [15:43] <nay> not my loss
#2750 [15:44] <espasmato> should i be able to login right now? or is it down?
#2751 [15:44] <xales> it's down
#2752 [15:44] <espasmato> okay
#2753 [15:44] <espasmato> just checking
#2754 [15:44] <CoLoN> its up now
#2755 [15:44] <Anthro> nay your kidding right? im using it i see no differance what so ever
#2756 [15:44] <CoLoN> i just got on
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#2758 [15:44] <espasmato> i get Can't connect to minecraft.net
#2759 [15:44] <kermit> NOT FUNNY
#2760 [15:44] <nay> y would i need it ?
#2761 [15:44] <nay> i have the new client working
#2762 [15:44] <ItsCriminal> nobody can :D
#2763 [15:44] <ciaron> it's probably a capacity thing rather than clear cut up or down
#2764 [15:44] <kermit> Old .jar client (not my link): http://www.mediafire.com/?w93eg4v1a5rw7tw
#2765 [15:45] <kermit> everyone, stop loging in....I shall try
#2766 [15:45] <D-fens> Is minecraft_server.jar updated yet? I am still getting "outdated server" on login
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#2768 [15:45] <xales> are you using bukkit?
#2769 [15:45] <D-fens> yes
#2770 [15:46] <ciaron> deja-vu
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#2772 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. the new lighting sure is pretty all right
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#2774 [15:46] <Altazimuth> What does "Seed for the World Generator" do/mean?
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#2776 [15:46] <Kealper> iirc it's just BetterLight
#2777 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> If you want to input a custom seed
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#2779 [15:46] <jDodson99> Minecraft freezes when I try to go on singleplayer :/
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#2781 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Instead of the world using a random one
#2782 [15:47] <dicey> guys
#2783 [15:47] <Altazimuth> Meaning?
#2784 [15:47] <dicey> my friend has an online server
#2785 [15:47] <jDodson99> Well, it does when there are 1.2 saves. I moved the saves to another folder and it worked.
#2786 [15:47] <dicey> but there isnt a console?
#2787 [15:47] <jDodson99> I click on "singleplayer" but it freezes and crashes.
#2788 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Altazimuth - The world generator uses a number, called a (seed) to work off of
#2789 [15:47] <jDodson99> Also, when I click on "Create new world" it freezes.
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#2791 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> All worlds using a Seed, will generate the same way
#2792 [15:47] <dicey> can someone help :(
#2793 [15:47] <Altazimuth> Is there alist of these numbers and what they do?
#2794 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> No
#2795 [15:47] <ciaron> 1 seed for the whole map?
#2796 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> It's all random
#2797 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2798 [15:47] <ciaron> cool
#2799 [15:48] <dicey> my friends server has no console? how do i enable it
#2800 [15:48] <ciaron> so using the same seed, you should get the same map
#2801 [15:48] <jDodson99> Is anyone else getting the "freeze when you try singleplayer" bug?
#2802 [15:48] <xales> dicey: are they using a hosting website?
#2803 [15:48] <dicey> no
#2804 [15:48] <dicey> hess hosting it himself
#2805 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> So if your friend has a REALLY cool starting position, he just gives you his seed, it'll give your world generator the same world
#2806 [15:48] <dicey> for us 2 to play on
#2807 [15:48] <jDodson99> It may be mac-specific...
#2808 [15:48] <xales> dicey: it isn't possible to open it without the console
#2809 [15:48] <Raze> Yeah jDodson
#2810 [15:48] <Altazimuth> What type of variable does the seed take, Byte, Integer, Double, what (I don't want to make an overflow)
#2811 [15:48] <ciaron> does the map file store the seed it used?
#2812 [15:48] <Raze> Ditto
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#2815 [15:48] <jceggbert5> yes it is xales
#2816 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes ciaron
#2817 [15:48] <jceggbert5> there's a tut somewhere
#2818 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> In the level.dat
#2819 [15:49] <dicey> hes opened a jva tyhing
#2820 [15:49] <dicey> but he cant do any commands ingame?
#2821 [15:49] <xales> jceggbert5: unless you try very hard to not do it
#2822 [15:49] <xales> then it will open a console.
#2823 [15:49] <Anthro> hey grey i have an odd probelm
#2824 [15:49] <xales> dicey: he needs to be an op to do commands in game
#2825 [15:49] <CoLoN> anyone know the new crafting recipes
#2826 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Anthro - What's that?
#2827 [15:49] <dicey> hes hosting the server...
#2828 [15:49] <xales> CoLoN: http://minecraftwiki.net/
#2829 [15:49] <Anthro> well i log into one of my worlds and go to open this one chest and the game crashs on me
#2830 [15:49] <xales> dicey: it doesn't matter if he is hosting it, he needs to put himself as an op
#2831 [15:50] <dicey> how does he do that
#2832 [15:50] <xales> put his name in the op.txt file
#2833 [15:50] <dicey> once hes op he can make me an op to?
#2834 [15:50] <jceggbert5> op nickname in the console
#2835 [15:50] <SkiingPenguins> ggggrrrr i wants portable minecraft >:O
#2836 [15:50] <jceggbert5> yes
#2837 [15:50] <Poinball> where is The Minecraft server for 1.3 ??
#2838 [15:50] <jceggbert5> lol its comint
#2839 [15:50] <jceggbert5> on the server DL page
#2840 [15:50] <jceggbert5> coming*
#2841 [15:50] <jDodson99> There's a MC for iPod, isn't there?
#2842 [15:50] <xales> Poinball: on the server download page.
#2843 [15:50] <xales> jDodson99: not yet
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#2845 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Coming later in the year
#2846 [15:50] <ciaron> i wonder what a seed of "1" generates
#2847 [15:50] <jceggbert5> not yet
#2848 [15:51] <jceggbert5> "1" world XD
#2849 [15:51] <jDodson99> I thought there was...
#2850 [15:51] <Altazimuth> Minecraftforums is broken, whaaaaaa?
#2851 [15:51] <Netu> For the past few days I have been working diligently to fix up my server to be more optomized and use less resources. I have ditched Apache and PHPMyAdmin in hopes of using HeidiSQL or MySQL Front. I am curious if any other server administrators have had success using these tools in place of PHPMyAdmin or can recommend any others?
#2852 [15:51] <xales> Netu: phpmyadmin doesn't use many resources...
#2853 [15:51] <xolotl> ciaron: Just a world, like any other
#2854 [15:51] <Poinball> Who know if CraftBukit have an Update for the 1.3 ???
#2855 [15:51] <xales> it's a php script
#2856 [15:51] <xales> Poinball: It does not
#2857 [15:51] <jceggbert5> well, MySQL requires PMA and Apache, Netu
#2858 [15:51] <xales> jceggbert5: it doesn't require them
#2859 [15:52] <jceggbert5> Apache calls MySQL
#2860 [15:52] <Netu> jceggbert5: No it doesn't. xales: Sure! But anything I can do to reduce even a bit of memory helps!
#2861 [15:52] <xales> jceggbert5: actually, no, it doesn't
#2862 [15:52] <jceggbert5> wait, I'm thinking about a web admin thingy
#2863 [15:52] <ciaron> just use phpmyadmin with a lightserver
#2864 [15:52] <jceggbert5> not sql setting log etc
#2865 [15:52] <dicey> xales it worked thanks alot man
#2866 [15:52] <xales> Netu: phpmyadmin is only using memory when you are actually using it
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#2871 [15:53] <ciaron> oo i managed to login
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#2873 [15:53] <Yelreve> as did i
#2874 [15:53] <Raze> YUS!
#2875 [15:53] <Raze> :3
#2876 [15:53] <Anthro> any ideas grey?
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#2878 [15:53] <Raze> Aw damnit
#2879 [15:53] <Raze> Why does my game kee[ crashing?
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#2881 [15:54] <Fenryk> Login servers are down?
#2882 [15:54] <xales> Ye
#2883 [15:54] <xales> s
#2884 [15:54] <xales> Raze: is there an error...?
#2885 [15:54] <Netu> xales: Well, I use a module called 'LogBlock' which I am sure you are familiar with. This calls MySQL continuously as long as someone is on the server interacting with blocks. This means MySQL is using a good bit of resources, I am sure; now, when I or another admin uses PHPMyAdmin (ergo Apache2) to configure something, we would use more memory. But couldn't I, at least theoretically,
#2886 [15:54] <Netu> use less memory if I use a program locally (on my machine) to manipulate MySQL on the server?
#2887 [15:54] <Fenryk> I can get on mine just fine...They updated to Beta 1.3
#2888 [15:54] <randmminecrafter> Every time i build stuff then save and exit when i go back to that world the stuff i built is gone anyone know why...?
#2889 [15:54] <Fenryk> Now my Bukkit server is outdated. :\
#2890 [15:54] <dicey> GRRRRR
#2891 [15:54] <Netu> (I am just trying to trim any way I can. But if this is truly pointless, I'll just turn Apache/PMA back on...)
#2892 [15:54] <Raze> xales: Not sure, it happened while I tried installing a texture pack now It won't open.
#2893 [15:54] <xales> Netu: No, the difference would be so unbelievably marginal
#2894 [15:54] <dicey> why do the login servers go down all the time
#2895 [15:55] <xales> Raze: The texture pack has to support 1.3
#2896 [15:55] <jDodson99> I can't get on at all. It crashes when I try to make a new world, or load an existing one.
#2897 [15:55] <xales> Netu: It wouldn't even make a difference of 1MB
#2898 [15:55] <jDodson99> Actually, it crashes when I click "singleplayer" and there are worlds in the /saves/ folder.
#2899 [15:55] <Raze> I tried it before th update and the game just crashed
#2900 [15:55] <Netu> xales: Fair enough, then. Alas. Thanks. Maybe one day I can stop using databases for my server... #pipedream is thataway, right? ;)
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#2902 [15:55] <jDodson99> FTL :/
#2903 [15:55] <xales> jDodson99: try renaming the .minecraft folder to something else
#2904 [15:55] <Raze> I had the old version
#2905 [15:55] <jDodson99> I'm on a mac
#2906 [15:55] <Fenryk> #bukkit
#2907 [15:55] <Raze> Then it just froze and crashed
#2908 [15:55] <jDodson99> xD
#2909 [15:55] <Patrick_> is the download on the main site the fully updated version?
#2910 [15:55] <Poinball> The logIn dont work now ... ?
#2911 [15:55] <dicey> why are they not fixing the servers
#2912 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes Patrick_
#2913 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> dicey - They're aware of the problem, and will fix it
#2914 [15:56] <Anthro> ????
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#2916 [15:56] <xales> Patrick_: The download is just a launcher which downloads the game and updates it and whatever
#2917 [15:56] <Patrick_> oh right..
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#2919 [15:56] <randmminecrafter> Anyone else have vuilding probloms...? When i update all the stuff i built dissapeared....
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#2921 [15:56] <randmminecrafter> building*
#2922 [15:57] <fogWraith> Rargh, terrorists attacking european internets
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#2924 [15:57] <xales> randmminecrafter: were you using mods before you updated?
#2925 [15:57] <randmminecrafter> yes
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#2927 [15:58] <mib_dt3lx4> Aww. When will the servers be up :(
#2928 [15:58] <xales> what specifically
#2929 [15:58] <xales> mib_dt3lx4: when they are fixed
#2930 [15:58] <me> i can't login to my account in minecraft ??
#2931 [15:58] <Anthro> greyvulpine any idea what mite be cuasing this?
#2932 [15:58] <randmminecrafter> Used Mo'monsters Mcregion and No more creepers
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#2935 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Anthro - Probably a bugged chest?
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#2937 [15:58] <nevercast> Hey xales, site back up yet?
#2938 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Anthro - All I can really say is, destroy the chest...
#2939 [15:58] <Anthro> but how do i fix that? if it possible?
#2940 [15:58] <xales> no
#2941 [15:58] <me> eny one ho has same problem ?????!!!
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#2943 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> me - No
#2944 [15:59] <Anthro> i did i destroy it and right as i do the game crashes
#2945 [15:59] <xales> me: nobody can log in.
#2946 [15:59] <me> kk
#2947 [15:59] <xales> the login servers are down.
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#2949 [15:59] <CoLoN> somehow i was able to
#2950 [15:59] <CoLoN> ?
#2951 [15:59] <mib_dt3lx4> is server overload why we cant log in?
#2952 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Anthro - Then um, try map editing the chest away?
#2953 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_63nkq4 - Yes
#2954 [15:59] <Nexx> Hello everyone
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#2956 [15:59] <Raze> Ahh fudge
#2957 [15:59] <Anthro> ooo got anything for that? i have never map edited before
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#2959 [15:59] <Raze> I can login but after the Mojang logo the game crashes -.-"
#2960 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> MCedit
#2961 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> raze, try a reinstall of your .minecraft
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#2964 [16:00] <Raze> K
#2965 [16:00] <dicey> when r they fixing the serves :/
#2966 [16:00] <dicey> and why r they always down
#2967 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> They're not always down
#2968 [16:01] <Xerati> they seem to always work for me
#2969 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> And they'll fix the servers soon
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#2971 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> New game launcher works for me finally
#2972 [16:01] <Patrick_> oh gosh :3 i got in
#2973 [16:01] <solace1369> login just worked for me too
#2974 [16:01] <nevercast> 2 minutes ago
#2975 [16:01] <nevercast> Tobias posted on Twitter
#2976 [16:01] <nevercast> Login server is back up
#2977 [16:02] <kermit> yay
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#2979 [16:02] <Raze> *Sigh
#2980 [16:02] <Raze> Am I doomed to never play minecraft again?
#2981 [16:02] <Raze> :(
#2982 [16:02] <Patrick_> what does seed do
#2983 [16:03] <bread> Log in works for me \o/
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#2985 [16:03] <Anthro> so grey if i delet my whole .minecraft folder will i lose my worlds as well?
#2986 [16:03] <nevercast> Kealper has outdated server :(
#2987 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> only if you don't move the saves folder out
#2988 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Patrick_ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation
#2989 [16:04] <Nexx> I have a problem... my Minecraft works until I log in. When it attempts to load the Mojang logo, I get a black screen and then an error log about my video card driver being bad and that I don't have an accerelated OpenGL. I have re-installed my video card driver a few times, tried every OpenGL setting and re-downloaded the client and its files at least ten times. I'm getting this ever
#2990 [16:04] <Nexx> since the beta 1.2 update and I hoped it would be fixed at the 1.3 update. Can anyone help me?
#2991 [16:04] <Kealper> nevercast: yeah, updating my texture pack before i update the server
#2992 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> In there, you'll see a short description of the 'seed' aspect of random number generators
#2993 [16:04] <nevercast> Kealper, okay thanks :)
#2994 [16:04] <Anthro> ooo ok
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#2996 [16:04] <devnill> so minecraft let me log on but my server is refusing my connection.
#2997 [16:04] <Kealper> nevercast: no one can log in right now so it doesnot really matter if i update it or not..no one can play on it right now anyways -.-
#2998 [16:04] <Patrick_> what would be an example of what i would put into the Seed box to create a world.
#2999 [16:04] <cyphez> devnill: experiencing the same issues
#3000 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Patrick_ - A string of numbers
#3001 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> from 1-99999999+
#3002 [16:05] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm logged in.. the login server has been up for like 5 minutes now
#3003 [16:05] <devnill> maybe the login server isnt really up?
#3004 [16:05] <Patrick_> ok :P that makes more sense
#3005 [16:05] <nevercast> Kealper, gotta keep track of those tweets ;)
#3006 [16:05] <cyphez> nor me or my friends can't join my server
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#3008 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> cyphez - Did you update the server?
#3009 [16:05] <devnill> do any other servers work?
#3010 [16:05] <nevercast> cyphez, what's the error?
#3011 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Is it running 1.3?
#3012 [16:05] <cyphez> yes
#3013 [16:05] <devnill> I updated to 1.3 as well and have the same issue
#3014 [16:05] <Kealper> nevercast: bah....i've been digging through texture stuff
#3015 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Is it running vanilla?
#3016 [16:05] <devnill> yeah
#3017 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Just the plain, original server?
#3018 [16:05] <cyphez> using only the original here
#3019 [16:05] <devnill> i had simple server but its off now
#3020 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Try connecting to greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3021 [16:05] <devnill> same error
#3022 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> See if it'll connect
#3023 [16:06] <Epsynus> Hi, i got a question.. Before this patch i had a steady 60 fps. Now i got 3 fps & java is hugging 99% CPU. I tried reinstalling both java & minecraft several times. I have tried changing ALL graphic settings and its still like that. Using Windows 7 ultimeate
#3024 [16:06] <Epsynus> ultimate*
#3025 [16:06] <cyphez> well I'm using the .jar with this startup: ""C:\Game Files\Minecraft\minecraft_server.jar" java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#3026 [16:06] <xales> Epsynus: Open Options
#3027 [16:06] <devnill> it looks like its going to time out on greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3028 [16:06] <xales> go to Graphic Options
#3029 [16:06] <xales> turn off "smooth lighting"
#3030 [16:06] <Epsynus> I have done that.
#3031 [16:06] <Epsynus> still same
#3032 [16:06] <ItsCriminal> how is the repeater working?
#3033 [16:07] <xales> have you restarted the client since doing that?
#3034 [16:07] <Epsynus> yes several times.
#3035 [16:07] <InS4Ne> xales i need an ip for minecraft :P
#3036 [16:07] <cyphez> try tabbing in and out ;p
#3037 [16:07] <xales> cyphez: that is wrong
#3038 [16:07] <cyphez> it works sometimes
#3039 [16:07] <xales> ??> InS4Ne smp/servers
#3040 [16:07] <VoxelHead> InS4Ne: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#3041 [16:07] <VoxelHead> InS4Ne: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
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#3043 [16:07] <xales> cyphez: just "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar (path to jar) nogui"
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#3045 [16:07] <InS4Ne> ??
#3046 [16:07] <mjeagleson> I still can't make worlds WTF
#3047 [16:07] <xales> drop the path in the beginning
#3048 [16:08] <raisin> Xales
#3049 [16:08] <raisin> Xales
#3050 [16:08] <xales> what
#3051 [16:08] <raisin> Xales!!!
#3052 [16:08] <raisin> i got it ^^
#3053 [16:08] <raisin> got it tru paypal now :D
#3054 [16:08] <xales> ok
#3055 [16:08] <xales> :)
#3056 [16:08] <InS4Ne> the site didnt work
#3057 [16:08] <raisin> but i was wandering if you could give me thath list
#3058 [16:08] <raisin> of online servers ?
#3059 [16:08] <cyphez> devnill: the ppl trying to join your server times out ye?
#3060 [16:08] <xales> raisin: http://minestatus.net/ http://mcserverlist.net/
#3061 [16:08] <InS4Ne> i will a server how i can build etc ...
#3062 [16:09] <Epsynus> anyone else got any idea why its doing that to me? :/
#3063 [16:09] <devnill> cyphez: my server gives the error "connection refused" greyvulpine.dyndns.org just times out
#3064 [16:09] <Epsynus> seems like http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=189572 got the same problem :/
#3065 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3066 [16:09] <bread> ha, that's kinda funny. The update seemed to improve my performance drastically.
#3067 [16:09] <xales> Epsynus: no idea - have you tried "force update" in the launcher?
#3068 [16:09] <cyphez> basically people trying to join my server loses connection
#3069 [16:09] <Epsynus> yep
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#3071 [16:10] <cyphez> "[INFO] CardboardGizmo [/xx.xx.xx.xxx:xxxx] lost connection
#3072 [16:10] <devnill> my server doesnt even see the connection
#3073 [16:10] <xales> cyphez: try laucnhing it properly :P
#3074 [16:10] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I have a nice 16x16 block to walk around on.. where is the rest of the terrain at :P
#3075 [16:10] <InS4Ne> there are much outdate. ..
#3076 [16:10] <Arfmaster> Can I get some help too?
#3077 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Um, hmm
#3078 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't know...
#3079 [16:11] <cyphez> xales: meh, and I thought I did it the right way - > "C:\Game Files\Minecraft\minecraft_server.jar" java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3080 [16:11] <cyphez> so this is wrong yeah?
#3081 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> It's loading fine for me
#3082 [16:11] <devnill> what version do you have greyvulpine?
#3083 [16:11] <devnill> client/server
#3084 [16:11] <farandir> Hi, is "[INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.2_01" the correct one version? Running thru SimpleServer wrapper
#3085 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> No, 1.3 is the latest
#3086 [16:11] <xales> cyphez: that is wrong, yes
#3087 [16:11] <cyphez> xales: how is the correct way?
#3088 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> I should be running 1.3
#3089 [16:12] <randmminecrafter> What is the seed input when your makeing a new map? O.o
#3090 [16:12] <xales> cyphez: as I've said, the command should only be
#3091 [16:12] <Raze> :'(
#3092 [16:12] <devnill> simpleserver *should* work with 1.3, it loads up and converts the map at least
#3093 [16:12] <farandir> GreyVulpine: I've downloaded the server.jar from minecraft.net
#3094 [16:12] <xales> actually, it should be two commands
#3095 [16:12] <farandir> is anywhere more actual one?
#3096 [16:12] <xales> first, "cd C:\Game Files\Minecraft\minecraft_server.jar"
#3097 [16:12] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, The lag is crazy!
#3098 [16:12] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, What's your upload speed?
#3099 [16:12] <devnill> I think we are at the mercy of notch
#3100 [16:12] <cyphez> xales: but the way I put it in the launcher is correct right?
#3101 [16:12] <xales> then "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#3102 [16:13] <cyphez> without the ""'s I suppose :)
#3103 [16:13] <cyphez> ok thanks
#3104 [16:13] <Raze> I think Minecraft has decided to die on me
#3105 [16:13] <cyphez> actually no nvm :D
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#3107 [16:13] <xales> that is the entire command - don't put anything else on there
#3108 [16:13] <cyphez> okay
#3109 [16:13] <Arfmaster> Does anyone know how to fix the black screen problem?
#3110 [16:13] <raisin> xales they are all outdated
#3111 [16:13] <Patrick_> damnit this cave just made a really spooky noise ><
#3112 [16:14] <xales> raisin: wait for them to be updated then
#3113 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - Give me a moment
#3114 [16:14] <xales> Arfmaster: turn off AVG/whatever antivirus
#3115 [16:14] <raisin> xales was tehre an update today ?
#3116 [16:14] <xales> raisin: yes
#3117 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Yes
#3118 [16:14] <devnill> so is the nether going to work as soon as 1.3 loads?
#3119 [16:14] <raisin> what did it do ?
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#3122 [16:14] <ciaron> why have i spawned with a diamond pickaxe and 64 beds?!
#3123 [16:14] <xales> raisin: http://minecraftwiki.net/
#3124 [16:15] <kdelish> greetings crafters - any word on how to mitigate SP crash?
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#3126 [16:15] <Arfmaster> @Xales, I use Antivir, but turning it off does nothing
#3127 [16:15] <cyphez> xales: still experiencing the same issues :(
#3128 [16:15] <xales> ciaron: 12:37:11 < notch> [12:36:09] Err, yes... as USUAL, we managed to release it with debug item spawning code in it. Re-download. :D
#3129 [16:15] <xales> Arfmaster: different reason then
#3130 [16:15] <Raze> Is anyones Minecraft like completely crashing?
#3131 [16:15] <randmminecrafter> What is the seed input when your makeing a new map????
#3132 [16:15] <xales> Arfmaster: try this
#3133 [16:15] <Raze> After the Mojang logo?
#3134 [16:15] <xales> ??> Arfmaster win/reinst
#3135 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Arfmaster: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3136 [16:15] <cyphez> INFO] Disconnecting CardboardGizmo [/xx.xx.x.xxx:3918]: Took too long to log in"
#3137 [16:16] <VoxelHead> Arfmaster: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3138 [16:16] <raisin> xales i still dont find it :D at version the last one is from 22 december
#3139 [16:16] <kdelish> raze-my SP crashes program
#3140 [16:16] <xales> raisin: you do that too
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#3142 [16:16] <ciaron> hmm the server jar must still have those enabled
#3143 [16:16] <xales> cyphez: just wait - it's a minecraft.net issue then
#3144 [16:16] <cyphez> xales: ok thanks
#3145 [16:16] <raisin> xales?
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#3147 [16:16] <raisin> thath didnt make sense
#3148 [16:16] <xales> raisin: click "Version History"
#3149 [16:16] <Raze> My whole programme crashes though
#3150 [16:16] <legotrekker> hey guys
#3151 [16:16] <ciaron> xales: see when upgrading a server to 1.3 - will it take the world with it automatically?
#3152 [16:16] <Raze> It makes no sense
#3153 [16:16] <xales> ciaron: yes
#3154 [16:16] <legotrekker> is anyone else not able to play SP right now?
#3155 [16:16] <xales> Raze: did you delete the bin folder?
#3156 [16:17] <devnill> 1.3 automatically will convert the map when it loads up
#3157 [16:17] <jDodson99> :c legotrekker I'm not
#3158 [16:17] <Arfmaster> Does deleting the bin directory not cause other problems?
#3159 [16:17] <Raze> bin folder?
#3160 [16:17] <xales> legotrekker: why are you unable to play it?
#3161 [16:17] <xales> Arfmaster: It doesn't cause problems
#3162 [16:17] <xales> Raze: follow the instructions above
#3163 [16:17] <Arfmaster> alright, thanks very much
#3164 [16:17] <xales> Kealper
#3165 [16:17] <xales> come back
#3166 [16:17] <xales> :(
#3167 [16:17] <legotrekker> Well if I have my old worlds in the save folder it crashes when I click single player
#3168 [16:17] <jDodson99> And If you try to generate a new world, it'll freeze and crash.
#3169 [16:17] <Xerati> :D
#3170 [16:17] <jDodson99> legotrekker, are you on a mac?
#3171 [16:17] <legotrekker> but if I have an empty save folder, it loads the SP menu, and then crashes when I try to click new world
#3172 [16:17] <Xerati> sandstone is naturally occurring now
#3173 [16:17] <legotrekker> no, I'm on XP SP2
#3174 [16:17] <Xerati> confused the hell out of me for a sec
#3175 [16:17] <Arfmaster> do you delete the folder, or what's in it?
#3176 [16:17] <jDodson99> Okay, so it's not mac-specific...
#3177 [16:18] <xales> legotrekker: update Windows then
#3178 [16:18] <legotrekker> I deleted .minecraft at least three times
#3179 [16:18] <xales> that's quite possibly the problem
#3180 [16:18] <Kealper> rawr?
#3181 [16:18] <xales> SP2 hasn't been supported for a long time
#3182 [16:18] <legotrekker> ugh, I have no problems with SP2 and multiplayer works absolutely fine
#3183 [16:18] <legotrekker> I really hate the idea of having to try and update this old laptop
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#3185 [16:18] <xales> legotrekker: you should still update
#3186 [16:18] <legotrekker> are you sure that's the issue?
#3187 [16:18] <xales> it's insecure anyway
#3188 [16:18] <xales> It's very possible
#3189 [16:18] <raisin> xales i got it :D
#3190 [16:19] <xales> SP3 had performance increases anyway IIRC
#3191 [16:19] <raisin> how long does it take to update those online servers ?
#3192 [16:19] <kdelish> will redownloading client help to mitigate SP crash?
#3193 [16:19] <Epsynus> yep
#3194 [16:19] <legotrekker> I have two other computers with SP3
#3195 [16:19] <legotrekker> there is no performance increase...
#3196 [16:19] <Kealper> kdelish: possibly, give it a show
#3197 [16:19] <Kealper> shot*
#3198 [16:19] <kdelish> word.
#3199 [16:19] <xales> ??> kdelish win/reinst
#3200 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> raisin - It rests entirely on the server admin
#3201 [16:19] <VoxelHead> kdelish: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3202 [16:19] <Xerati> get a better comp
#3203 [16:19] <VoxelHead> kdelish: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3204 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> and when they have time to do it
#3205 [16:19] <kdelish> OS X tiger
#3206 [16:19] <legotrekker> I really really doubt SP2 is the problem
#3207 [16:19] <xales> oh wow
#3208 [16:19] <xales> tiger
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#3210 [16:19] <legotrekker> I have never had any problems with minecraft before
#3211 [16:19] <kdelish> ayup.
#3212 [16:19] <xales> there is quite possibly the problem
#3213 [16:19] <legotrekker> anyone else experiencing this?
#3214 [16:19] <xales> Tiger has a really old version of Java
#3215 [16:19] <kdelish> just updated...?
#3216 [16:20] <xales> legotrekker: you should try it anyway - a lot of things changed in SP3
#3217 [16:20] <Kealper> legotrekker: i have seen updating to SP3 fix quite a few issues
#3218 [16:20] <Kealper> it can't hurt
#3219 [16:20] <jDodson99> I have Leopard (mac) and it does the same thing.
#3220 [16:20] <legotrekker> Yes except it's a complete pain in the ass
#3221 [16:20] <kdelish> my bro on leopard has same issue
#3222 [16:20] <legotrekker> and this isn't my computer
#3223 [16:20] <xales> Mac people: rename the minecraft folder in Application Support
#3224 [16:20] <ciaron> unless you up to sp3 you won't get certain updates
#3225 [16:20] <legotrekker> I'd like to avoid that, I may do it but it'll be a last resort
#3226 [16:20] <raisin> Xales the smooth lighting laggs my PC is thath normal ?
#3227 [16:20] <kdelish> thx xales, will do.
#3228 [16:20] <jDodson99> What good would that do, xales?
#3229 [16:20] <xales> jDodson99: just try it.
#3230 [16:20] <ciaron> i take it the changes of xau working with 1.3 or slim to none?
#3231 [16:21] <xales> raisin: yes, if your computer can't handle it
#3232 [16:21] <jDodson99> Rename it to anything, or something specific?
#3233 [16:21] <xales> jDodson99: anything other than "minecraft"
#3234 [16:21] <raisin> mkay
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#3236 [16:21] <legotrekker> the frustrating part here is that on multiplayer servers I have a huge performance increase since this update
#3237 [16:21] <legotrekker> I feel like it's a bug with the new saves
#3238 [16:22] <Arfmaster> I've deleted the bin folder, to no avail
#3239 [16:22] <Kealper> legotrekker: any mods at all?
#3240 [16:22] <legotrekker> nope, none on this PC
#3241 [16:22] <Arfmaster> Any other fixes?
#3242 [16:22] <InS4Ne> how i can download skins for mine minecrafter
#3243 [16:22] <raisin> NO way !!! octopussses :D
#3244 [16:22] <xales> ??> Arfmaster win/profile
#3245 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Arfmaster: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3246 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Arfmaster: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3247 [16:22] <jDodson99> Still crashes :/
#3248 [16:22] <xales> raisin: they have been there for a while now
#3249 [16:22] <raisin> lol never seen tehm
#3250 [16:22] <Raze> Sorry xales but what instructions are they?
#3251 [16:22] <xales> ??> Raze win/reinst
#3252 [16:23] <kdelish> yep, dodson - just redownloaded client, renamed folder, same crash pattern
#3253 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Raze: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3254 [16:23] <jDodson99> I saw an error report in like the last milisecond but it closed before I could read it.
#3255 [16:23] <Arfmaster> Thanks very much
#3256 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Raze: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3257 [16:23] <devnill> oh man, i cant lurk in here, hearing about 1.3 working makes me sad!
#3258 [16:23] <kdelish> lol @ devnill me too dammit
#3259 [16:23] <xales> jDodson99: it should (might?) have saved it as a text file in the same folder as Minecraft.app
#3260 [16:23] <Raze> Where do I do this.....?
#3261 [16:23] <Raze> I'm so sorry
#3262 [16:23] <legotrekker> is there any way I can keep MC from CTD'ing so I can at least read the error report?
#3263 [16:23] <xales> Raze: do what?
#3264 [16:23] <xales> legotrekker: run it in Terminal
#3265 [16:23] <Raze> The win/reinst?
#3266 [16:24] <ciaron> currently building a travel inn with my 64 beds
#3267 [16:24] <Epsynus> oh well i guess i am going to stop playing minecraft for some time and hope this get fixed :P cya all and thanks for trying to help :)
#3268 [16:24] <xales> Raze: follow the instructions it gives
#3269 [16:24] <legotrekker> terminal?
#3270 [16:24] <xales> legotrekker: Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
#3271 [16:24] <legotrekker> ah
#3272 [16:24] <jDodson99> Saved what as a text file? (xale)
#3273 [16:24] <xales> type "open " <-- notice the space
#3274 [16:24] <Raze> Look Im sorry but I'm really confused
#3275 [16:24] <jDodson99> *(xales)
#3276 [16:24] <xales> and drag Minecraft.app into the window
#3277 [16:24] <kdelish> dodson, i don't have txt file either
#3278 [16:24] <legotrekker> thanks
#3279 [16:24] <xales> Raze: about which part...?
#3280 [16:24] <jDodson99> Or CMD+Space, type in "terminal"
#3281 [16:24] <legotrekker> I'll try that
#3282 [16:24] <Raze> All of it :S
#3283 [16:25] <xales> Raze: did you try following the directions?
#3284 [16:25] <Raze> See that's what I dont get
#3285 [16:25] <xales> Which part of them?
#3286 [16:25] <Raze> It says hold Win+R
#3287 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R key
#3288 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> On your keyboard
#3289 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> The windows key should be in the lower left, between the ctrl and alt keys
#3290 [16:26] <Raze> ........
#3291 [16:26] <legotrekker> err
#3292 [16:26] <Raze> I am so stupid -.-"
#3293 [16:26] <Poinball> where can i download the last version of Craftbukkit ?
#3294 [16:26] <legotrekker> looked for terminal
#3295 [16:26] <Raze> Thank you
#3296 [16:26] <ciaron> or start->accessories->command prompt
#3297 [16:26] <legotrekker> doesn't seem to exist under windows
#3298 [16:26] <Kealper> Poinball: not updated yet i dont think
#3299 [16:26] <xales> Poinball: ask in #bukkit. It doesn't support 1.3
#3300 [16:26] <InS4Ne> i have upload a minecraft skin and he didnt show it ...
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#3302 [16:26] <xales> legotrekker: didn't you say you were using a Mac? =/
#3303 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - Don't worry, it'll still show up in-game
#3304 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> InS4Ne - It doesn't show up on the website, is all
#3305 [16:26] <legotrekker> no I'm the one running under SP2
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#3307 [16:26] <kdelish> lol who's got which OS?
#3308 [16:26] <xales> oh, fail =\
#3309 [16:27] <jDodson99> Mac 10.5.8 Leopard
#3310 [16:27] <xales> jDodson99: try running Minecraft.app in terminal then
#3311 [16:27] <InS4Ne> and how i can find ip for multiplayer ?
#3312 [16:27] <jDodson99|Leopard> Just so you don't forget xD
#3313 [16:27] <xales> InS4Ne: http://minestatus.net/ http://mcserverlist.net/
#3314 [16:27] <jDodson99|Leopard> I looked at the package contents as well, but still nothing
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#3316 [16:27] <InS4Ne> but they are offline not rechable ...
#3317 [16:27] <ngc0202> why wont my server update?
#3318 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - We don't know, why won't it?
#3319 [16:28] <InS4Ne> one have here a server :P ?
#3320 [16:28] <xales> ngc0202: are you using Bukkit?
#3321 [16:28] <ngc0202> i keep downloading the new jar, and it
#3322 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the update from minecraft.net?
#3323 [16:28] <ngc0202> yes?
#3324 [16:28] <xales> ngc0202: you are using Bukkit?
#3325 [16:28] <ngc0202> yes
#3326 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah, bukkit doesn't support 1.3 yet
#3327 [16:28] <xales> ok
#3328 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#3329 [16:28] <Raze> Yup still doesn't work
#3330 [16:28] <ngc0202> aw wtf
#3331 [16:28] <Rui_rui> The new jar?
#3332 [16:28] <xales> Raze: you deleted the bin folder?
#3333 [16:28] <Raze> Yup
#3334 [16:29] <xales> when does it crash, again?
#3335 [16:29] <xales> creating a new world?
#3336 [16:29] <Kealper> i'm changing the MOTD to say that mods will break this update
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#3338 [16:29] <Raze> It crashes when it brings up the Mojang logo
#3339 [16:29] <Raze> It just closes the window
#3340 [16:29] <xales> Raze: has it ever worked?
#3341 [16:29] <legotrekker> someone else is having a create new world crash?
#3342 [16:29] <Rui_rui> Is the new jar automatically installed when you bring up Minecraft?
#3343 [16:29] <Raze> It's worked fine before
#3344 [16:30] <jDodson99|Leopard> For me it crashes when creating a new world (if theres nothing in /saves) AND after clicking "singleplayer" when there ARE worlds in /saves.
#3345 [16:30] <xales> Rui_rui: The client updates itself, through the launcher. the server does not
#3346 [16:30] <Vevo> i want to use 1.2 and when i say not to update the completion bar is stuck
#3347 [16:30] <Raze> I've had it a year in like August I think
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#3350 [16:30] <Rui_rui> How would I update my server then?
#3351 [16:30] <legotrekker> "For me it crashes when creating a new world (if theres nothing in /saves) AND after clicking "singleplayer" when there ARE worlds in /saves." this is EXACTLY my problem
#3352 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - Redownload the .jar from minecraft.net
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#3354 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Same place where you got the beta client
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#3357 [16:30] <Rui_rui> I'll try that.
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#3361 [16:31] <Vevo> help?
#3362 [16:31] <xales> Vevo: we can't really help with using an older version
#3363 [16:31] <xales> all I can say is update to 1.3
#3364 [16:31] <fogWraith> Yeeeeeeeeeeeees, it finally downloads the packages!
#3365 [16:31] <legotrekker> dodson what OS are you on?
#3366 [16:31] * GreyVulpine wheees!
#3366 [16:31] <fogWraith> Ooh, fancy new logo
#3367 [16:31] <Raze> -.-"
#3368 [16:31] <fogWraith> Oh shit, it crashed
#3369 [16:31] <Raze> YES
#3370 [16:31] <Kealper> fogWraith: owned
#3371 [16:31] <Raze> Same here!
#3372 [16:31] <fogWraith> Haha
#3373 [16:32] <Raze> Mine crashes at the logo!
#3374 [16:32] <jDodson99|Leopard> legotrekker I'm on Mac 10.5.8 Leopard
#3375 [16:32] <kdelish> mine crashes right after you click SP
#3376 [16:32] <fogWraith> Mine too, what version of Java you got installed Raze ?
#3377 [16:32] <Kealper> fogWraith: use your debug-fu to figure it out! gogo!
#3378 [16:32] <legotrekker> ah
#3379 [16:32] <fogWraith> I refuse debugling!
#3380 [16:32] <Kealper> :o
#3381 [16:32] <Raze> I have no idea
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#3383 [16:32] <ngc0202> ok
#3384 [16:32] <fogWraith> I has 1.7 installed so, dunno if that might be it
#3385 [16:32] <dopeghoti> I should try and see how (if?) minecraft runs on my G4 at home
#3386 [16:32] <ngc0202> im running a nonbukkit server now
#3387 [16:33] <ngc0202> and it still says Outdated server!
#3388 [16:33] <jDodson99|Leopard> People with the crash: legotrekker, jDodson99|Leopard, kdelish xD
#3389 [16:33] <fogWraith> Ahh, now it works
#3390 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - Did you get the latest minecraft.jar from minecraft.net?
#3391 [16:33] <ngc0202> yes
#3392 [16:33] <mib_jjuid9> i want to play on 1.2 and when i say not to update it is stuck
#3393 [16:33] <mib_jjuid9> hlp
#3394 [16:33] <Raze> fogWraith: What did you do to get yours working?
#3395 [16:33] <xales> mib_jjuid9: other people have that problem. we can't really help you using an older version. you should update
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#3397 [16:33] <mib_sndcel> so i am using mcadmin and get this error message can anyone help me with this problem?? 2/22/2011 4:31:08 PM [MCAdmin] Something Done Goofed- external IPSystem.Net.WebException: The operation has timed out at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse() at MCAdmin.Program.GetExternalIP()
#3398 [16:33] <fogWraith> Killed the lingering java processes and started the client again
#3399 [16:34] <Raze> ...........
#3400 [16:34] <xales> mib_sndcel: we can't help with mcadmin problems, sorry
#3401 [16:34] <Raze> I know how to do that >.>
#3402 [16:34] <mib_sndcel> ok thanks
#3403 [16:34] <Raze> Not
#3404 [16:34] <fogWraith> SHIFT+ESC
#3405 [16:34] <fogWraith> find any Java things there and kill them
#3406 [16:34] <Rui_rui> Uh, hold up.
#3407 [16:34] <Rui_rui> Are the servers down? o_O
#3408 [16:35] <AG_Scott> mib_sndcel, you need to join #McMyAdmin
#3409 [16:35] <Mariu5> Guys, do you know of anyone reporting their server freezing and crashing 100% while using a Minecraft server? (or Network fail)?
#3410 [16:35] <ngc0202> lol
#3411 [16:35] <InS4Ne> is the upload server for skins down ? oO
#3412 [16:35] <AG_Scott> Hey guys, can you send people with mcmyadmin issues there?
#3413 [16:35] <ngc0202> my virus checker thinks Minecraft_server.exe is a virus
#3414 [16:35] <Raze> Darn
#3415 [16:35] <Raze> I keep clicking Shift and Esc but it isn't working
#3416 [16:35] <Raze> -,-"
#3417 [16:35] <ngc0202> or, its suspicious
#3418 [16:35] <xales> InS4Ne: No it works fine
#3419 [16:36] <fogWraith> Raze, Win+R, type taskmgr and hit return
#3420 [16:36] <xales> ngc0202: turn it off and get better antivirus
#3421 [16:36] <xales> :P
#3422 [16:36] <InS4Ne> i cant upload my skin oO
#3423 [16:36] <Raze> Ty
#3424 [16:36] <mib_ue8448> Heya, on my beta server I want to add a motd. Are motds supported by the current beta server?
#3425 [16:36] <InS4Ne> an i can see .. it change
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#3427 [16:36] <Rui_rui> !check 174.109.148.65
#3428 [16:36] <xales> mib_ue8448: no, only with mods
#3429 [16:36] <jDodson99|Leopard> So no one has figured out the world load crash make freeze thing bug error?
#3430 [16:36] <ngc0202> bukkit!
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#3432 [16:37] <rhonabwy> hi
#3433 [16:37] <xales> hi
#3434 [16:37] <rhonabwy> anyone an idea why the server wants an X11 Display if you try to start with nogui?
#3435 [16:37] <xales> it shouldn't...
#3436 [16:37] <xales> how exactly are you starting it?
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#3438 [16:37] <rhonabwy> java -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft.jar nogui
#3439 [16:37] <AG_Scott> xales, did you see my comments above?
#3440 [16:37] <Gizew> how do you update a server if you have your own?
#3441 [16:37] <rhonabwy> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException:
#3442 [16:37] <rhonabwy> No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it.
#3443 [16:37] <Mariu5> Guys, do you know of anyone reporting their server freezing and crashing 100% while using a Minecraft server? (or Network fail)?
#3444 [16:37] <xales> AG_Scott: nope
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#3446 [16:37] <xales> rhonabwy: minecraft.jar isn't the name of the server
#3447 [16:37] <AG_Scott> can you send people with mcmyadmin problems to #mcmyadmin?
#3448 [16:38] <kdelish> well, looks like giving up on SP crash...
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#3450 [16:38] <rhonabwy> it is, if you rename it ;)
#3451 [16:38] <xales> AG_Scott: It was mcadmin, not mcmy
#3452 [16:38] <Raze> Looks like I failed there
#3453 [16:38] <xales> rhonabwy: ah, ok
#3454 [16:38] <AG_Scott> oh it was? lol
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#3456 [16:38] <fogWraith> How'd it go Raze ?
#3457 [16:38] <Raze> Not good i dont think
#3458 [16:38] <fogWraith> O_o
#3459 [16:38] <Raze> I ended up closing down My interwebz
#3460 [16:38] <xales> rhonabwy: try like this
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#3462 [16:38] <fogWraith> Hawhaw ;P
#3463 [16:38] <Raze> I'm such a noob at this
#3464 [16:39] <Kadri> Psst... Quick question, if anyone can help out.
#3465 [16:39] <fogWraith> Reboot your PC ;)
#3466 [16:39] <xales> DISPLAY="0:0" java -whatever
#3467 [16:39] <Sinnersaix> is there any server that is updated?
#3468 [16:39] <Raze> I already tried that
#3469 [16:39] <fogWraith> :P
#3470 [16:39] <xales> Sinnersaix: some of them are
#3471 [16:39] <xales> Kadri: go ahead and ask
#3472 [16:39] * xales pokes Kealper again
#3472 [16:39] <Sinnersaix> but not shadowcradt =(
#3473 [16:39] <Kadri> Just bought the game, been playing in the background for a while, but wanting to play on a server. Don't, however, want to play in my browser. Where can I find an IP list for the servers on the website?
#3474 [16:39] <xales> Sinnersaix: seems not =\
#3475 [16:39] <zouhair> Kadri: rules of forums and irc, never ever ask to ask, just ask
#3476 [16:39] <xales> Kadri: http://minestatus.net/ http://mcserverlist.net/
#3477 [16:40] <rhonabwy> kay xales i'll try ;)
#3478 [16:40] <Kadri> Thank you. :) I'll give that a shot
#3479 [16:40] <Raze> Hmm
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#3483 [16:40] <Kealper> sorry xales, trying to figure out why my server is messing up with this new update :/
#3484 [16:40] <xales> :P
#3485 [16:41] <fogWraith> Rawr
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#3487 [16:41] <Kadri> Okay, next stupid question. Anyone know of a server that isn't outdated?
#3488 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Not off the tops of our heads
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#3490 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Currently wrangling with mine to not lag like a mofo
#3491 [16:42] <dicey> guys, whenever i spawn something on my mates server i just disconnect.. why
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#3493 [16:42] <Gizew> is there a place to update a server?
#3494 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net
#3495 [16:42] <Kealper> yeah, people are complaining of lag and missing chunks on mine right now...trying to figure this crap out
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#3497 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server
#3498 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Same Kealper.
#3499 [16:42] <Gizew> where can i do that ?
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#3501 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Gizew - Minecraft.net
#3502 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> The download link, same place where you got the client
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#3504 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page is all the server stuff
#3505 [16:43] <Gizew> really? i cant seem to find the link
#3506 [16:43] <Gizew> ok i'll look again
#3507 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3508 [16:43] <arensirb> Why cant I logout from minecraft.com ? ?
#3509 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of that page
#3510 [16:43] <mewomix> hey anyone have a fix for this http://k.min.us/jl3iCS.png
#3511 [16:43] <Gizew> thank you =)
#3512 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> mewomix - Means the server is down
#3513 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Nothing on your end
#3514 [16:43] <Kadri> Wow. This is infuriating.
#3515 [16:43] * xales has to go for like 10 minutes
#3515 [16:44] <arensirb> Oh and btw, when you buy mc now, do you get all updates folloiwing?
#3516 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Laters xales
#3517 [16:44] * xales will be back soon >.>
#3517 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes arensirb
#3518 [16:44] <dopeghoti> Kadri: it's an update release day. Things will be.. "fun" just like always
#3519 [16:44] <mewomix> the server is up tho three people are in it atm
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#3521 [16:44] <Raze> Ok so
#3522 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Then it's refusing your connection for some reason
#3523 [16:44] <Raze> I updated my Java version
#3524 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the server is up, and you're putting in the right address
#3525 [16:44] <mewomix> this update is making me rage
#3526 [16:44] <Raze> And it freezes on the mojang logo
#3527 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Recheck the ip
#3528 [16:44] <Raze> The whole programme
#3529 [16:44] <mewomix> yes i connect for a few mins hen disconnect
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#3531 [16:45] <Sinnersaix> so many servers and no idea where we shall go
#3532 [16:45] <Raze> Then it says in the top left
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#3534 [16:45] <Raze> Programme not responding
#3535 [16:45] <Raze> And closes down
#3536 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Is the server hella laggy, even connecting via the same LAN for you?
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#3538 [16:46] <Kealper> mine seems fine over lan, but two people on there that have the updated client are saying it's lagging a bit and it's not showing a LOT of the chunks
#3539 [16:46] <relsqui> 'lo folks
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#3541 [16:46] <SkiingPenguins> anyone know how to make a .bat wait for the program to stop then carry on with script?
#3542 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it's laggy, even over LAN for me
#3543 [16:46] <XaoMoaX> How to make a bed?
#3544 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> "pause"
#3545 [16:46] <legotrekker> oh well
#3546 [16:46] <Raze> fogWraith?
#3547 [16:47] <legotrekker> if there's no single-player fix for leapord right now
#3548 [16:47] <Raze> I bet he disappeared -.-"
#3549 [16:47] <SkiingPenguins> XaoMoaX check http://minecraftwiki.net
#3550 [16:47] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#3551 [16:47] <legotrekker> then I suspect there's no way I'm getting it to work on SP2
#3552 [16:47] <relsqui> heh I'm too slow
#3553 [16:47] <SkiingPenguins> you're merely more exact :)
#3554 [16:47] <relsqui> both! :)
#3555 [16:47] <legotrekker> since SP2, Vista, Leapord, and Windows 7 64bit are all screwed right now it seems
#3556 [16:47] <relsqui> <3 my mcsearch keyword
#3557 [16:47] <relsqui> :tabopen mcsearch bed (although I had the wiki open anyway in this case)
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#3559 [16:48] <legotrekker> I'm just going to wait it out for a fix from notch for leopard that will hopefully fix it for Sp2 too
#3560 [16:48] <Kadri> Uhmm... Minecraft works fine for me, and I'm win7 64.
#3561 [16:48] <legotrekker> really?
#3562 [16:48] <Kadri> The trouble I'm having is that no servers are up to date.
#3563 [16:48] <legotrekker> ugh
#3564 [16:48] <XaoMoaX> awesome. Thank you
#3565 [16:48] <Kadri> Are you updated in Java?
#3566 [16:48] <legotrekker> I think so
#3567 [16:48] <mewomix> multi dosnt work for me im on win7 64
#3568 [16:48] <relsqui> anyway. I have a .... networking question, actually, but by way of minecraft. I'm getting 100ms to our (colocated) server. no one else is having this problem. resetting my DNS didn't help. any ideas for improving this?
#3569 [16:48] <legotrekker> so would I check?
#3570 [16:48] <Kadri> Check, just to be sure.
#3571 [16:48] <Kadri> And Multiplayer worked for me, albeit briefly.
#3572 [16:49] <legotrekker> I mean, how would I go about checking it?
#3573 [16:49] <Kadri> I logged into a danish server(Had no stone, no wood, so I left). Tried to log back into it later, and it wouldn't let me, said I wasn't whitelisted, then after that it said it was outdated.
#3574 [16:49] <Kadri> Something is up.
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#3577 [16:49] <Kadri> Lego, go to the java website, download the installer, and try to install it, if its not up to date, it will work.
#3578 [16:50] <legotrekker> alright
#3579 [16:50] <legotrekker> thanks
#3580 [16:50] <ciaron> is there a page on the wiki with all the new crafting recipes?
#3581 [16:50] <Raze> I still can't fix this even trying everything you guys said
#3582 [16:50] <jDodson99|Leopard> I'm getting a video of my error to see if it helps. It may not, but whatever. :\
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#3584 [16:50] <Konfusius> does anyone know how to craft a bed?
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#3586 [16:51] <legotrekker> three wool above three wood planks
#3587 [16:51] <Konfusius> thx
#3588 [16:51] <cyphez> does anyone know how long it'll take to get the minecraft server up and running properly? sure, I can login, but the server part is still broken
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#3590 [16:51] <legotrekker> cypher use the 1.2 launcher
#3591 [16:51] <legotrekker> or do it from your browser
#3592 [16:51] <legotrekker> that'll let you log in
#3593 [16:51] <cyphez> on my own server?
#3594 [16:52] <legotrekker> oh, ugh I'm sorry
#3595 [16:52] <legotrekker> reading comprehension failure there
#3596 [16:52] <cyphez> :d
#3597 [16:52] <Wept> Any clue on why I can't connect onto my own server? Connection seems to time out all the time.
#3598 [16:52] <cyphez> ^ same issue here, no fix yet I think
#3599 [16:52] <cyphez> aka. problems with the minecraft host stuff
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#3601 [16:53] <Wept> Don't know if it's that, server does not even respond as to me joining into it.
#3602 [16:53] <Kadri> Yeah, it looks like a lot of servers are saying they haven't updated yet, looking over their websites.
#3603 [16:53] <legotrekker> so have I just magically dodged it all or is this the glitchiest update in months
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#3605 [16:53] <Kadri> Bux, for instance, says they won't update for at least a week.
#3606 [16:53] <Fenryk> #bukkit
#3607 [16:53] <ciaron> multiplay have updated, but you need to use vanilla
#3608 [16:53] <Wept> It's weird. Usually the server would say that " USER disconnected : REASON "
#3609 [16:54] <Kadri> Ciaron, I mean the servers are still running the outdated multiplayer content
#3610 [16:54] <ciaron> but they seem to have the version with the debug items on still
#3611 [16:54] <Wept> Now, it doesn't even seem to find anyone connecting into it.
#3612 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> many are running bukkit, so they're waiting on that to update
#3613 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Which might take another few days
#3614 [16:54] <ItsCriminal> all on my server are into the bed but nothing changes?
#3615 [16:54] <Wept> I'm running Minecraft's own, which has been updated onto 1.3B
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#3618 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - EVERYBODY needs to be on the bed
#3619 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> er, a bed
#3620 [16:55] <ItsCriminal> they are
#3621 [16:55] <Wept> Oh my god.
#3622 [16:55] <Wept> Nevermind - got it working.
#3623 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Somebody isn't
#3624 [16:55] <legotrekker> HOLY
#3625 [16:55] <legotrekker> CRAP
#3626 [16:55] <legotrekker> updated java
#3627 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> ?
#3628 [16:55] <Wept> Had a 0 instead of 1 in the IP. God I can't seem to see anything today.
#3629 [16:55] <legotrekker> singleplayer working now
#3630 [16:55] <legotrekker> YESSSSSSSSSSS
#3631 [16:55] <legotrekker> THANK YOU
#3632 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#3633 [16:55] <ItsCriminal> ohm they are cos 4people and they are all next to me
#3634 [16:55] <legotrekker> if anyone else is having SP troubles under windows
#3635 [16:55] <legotrekker> update java
#3636 [16:55] <legotrekker> that's probably it
#3637 [16:56] <legotrekker> peace out guys
#3638 [16:56] <jDodson99|Leopard> Mac has it's own version of java. Of which there are no updates. FTL.
#3639 [16:56] <ItsCriminal> wierd
#3640 [16:56] <ItsCriminal> why isnt it working
#3641 [16:56] <Wept> I had a Mac. Realised Steve Job hates us and sold it.
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#3643 [16:57] * xales is back
#3643 [16:57] <SkiingPenguins> :D
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#3646 [16:57] <Mogen> hi
#3647 [16:58] <xales> hi
#3648 [16:58] <Wept> Hey.
#3649 [16:58] <Mogen> hey xales
#3650 [16:58] <Mogen> lol u type the code lol
#3651 [16:58] <homfrog> Hello
#3652 [16:58] <Mogen> hey what do you do with the ops file in the server
#3653 [16:58] <Kadri> So if someone finds an up-to-date server, lemme know, okay?
#3654 [16:58] <homfrog> I have a problem where the area around my spawn is really laggy
#3655 [16:58] <Mogen> oh
#3656 [16:58] <Mogen> my server is up to date
#3657 [16:58] <Wept> I actually got my server running, yay-
#3658 [16:58] <Mogen> the update right
#3659 [16:58] <xales> homfrog: multiplayer or single?
#3660 [16:58] <Wept> 1.3
#3661 [16:58] <homfrog> Single
#3662 [16:59] <homfrog> My first world
#3663 [16:59] <xales> Mogen: you put the names of people who should be ops in it
#3664 [16:59] <xales> homfrog: is it every world, or just one of them
#3665 [16:59] <Mogen> oh
#3666 [16:59] <homfrog> Just the one I have
#3667 [16:59] <xales> homfrog: try creating a new one
#3668 [16:59] <Kadri> Mogen, send me the IP so I can join? Hehe
#3669 [16:59] <Wept> Homfrog, did you give it some time to load ? :o
#3670 [16:59] * xales tags Kealper in
#3670 [16:59] <homfrog> I changed the place of the spawn with a mod but then I uninstalled the mod...
#3671 [16:59] <homfrog> Would that change things?
#3672 [16:59] <xales> homfrog: that is..probably why
#3673 [16:59] <Mogen> are there any mods that are upto date
#3674 [16:59] <xales> ??> Mogen mods
#3675 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Mogen: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3676 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Mogen: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3677 [17:00] <Wept> Yes. It may take some time depending on your specs to load the game.
#3678 [17:00] <homfrog> It wasn't Bukkit though
#3679 [17:00] <homfrog> But nvm
#3680 [17:00] <ItsCriminal> worked :D
#3681 [17:01] <fogWraith> There we go, vanilla goodness... multiplayer world seems to have converted nicely
#3682 [17:01] * Kadri still wants a server to connect to. LMAO
#3682 [17:01] <Mogen> for the mods, how do u make it multiplayer
#3683 [17:02] <Mogen> like muliplayer mods for my server i mean
#3684 [17:02] <xales> Mogen: If it is a mod for singleplayer, it won't work on multiplayer
#3685 [17:02] <Mogen> how do people put mods on servers
#3686 [17:02] <Mogen> like i have a server
#3687 [17:02] <Mogen> but people are like put some mods
#3688 [17:02] <Mogen> and it'd be cool
#3689 [17:02] <Mogen> to put mods on it
#3690 [17:02] <xales> depends on the mod
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#3692 [17:03] <Mogen> general mods
#3693 [17:03] <Wept> OOO, i see some control changes.
#3694 [17:03] <kdelish> OK found out why SP was crashing
#3695 [17:03] <kdelish> or rather got it to work
#3696 [17:03] <kdelish> if anybody's interested
#3697 [17:04] <xales> kdelish: how?
#3698 [17:04] <jDodson99|Leopard> http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=29o63uq&s=7 I've tried getting the latest mac java thingeh. Didn't work.
#3699 [17:04] <kdelish> well i moved/deleted my prev save games from minecraft folder under /library/application support/minecraft
#3700 [17:05] <kdelish> and you can launch
#3701 [17:05] <kdelish> but if you try to replace save games, crash again
#3702 [17:05] <kdelish> funny thing is that for some reason its using old launcher
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#3704 [17:06] <xales> launcher is a manual update
#3705 [17:06] <kdelish> had new one yesterday/this morning?
#3706 [17:06] <Wept> jDodson: You can't get any java updates for mac through java website, only through Apple's own updates. Atleast that's how I remember it from owning a Mac.
#3707 [17:06] <xales> Wept: that's correct
#3708 [17:06] <Wept> So pretty much, if it's Java, you will need to wait for Apple to release a new version of it.
#3709 [17:06] <xales> Wept: which doesn't happen
#3710 [17:07] <jDodson99|Leopard> Wept: I downloaded the latest one from the Apple website.
#3711 [17:07] <xales> because
#3712 [17:07] <xales> it's Leopard
#3713 [17:07] <xales> not Snow Leopard
#3714 [17:07] <xales> :P
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#3716 [17:07] <Wept> Well, then you are even more screwed :o
#3717 [17:07] <xales> the upgrade to Snow Leopard is like $30
#3718 [17:07] <Wept> I think it's less now-a-days?
#3719 [17:07] <kdelish> (but if f***s up PROTOOLS!!!!!!)
#3720 [17:07] <Wept> Since the Lion is coming out soon.
#3721 [17:07] <jDodson99|Leopard> I'm gonna wait for Lion to come out.
#3722 [17:08] <Sean> Hey everybody. I just bought minecraft after months of watching videos
#3723 [17:08] <jDodson99|Leopard> xD
#3724 [17:08] <Wept> The GM releases were said to come out in 1-3 months.
#3725 [17:08] <xales> jDodson99|Leopard: In the past I don't think you could skip versions
#3726 [17:08] <xales> hi Sean
#3727 [17:08] <Sean> hey
#3728 [17:08] <jDodson99|Leopard> You can, btu it costs more.
#3729 [17:08] <Wept> xales: That is true.
#3730 [17:08] <jDodson99|Leopard> I think...
#3731 [17:08] <Sean> But Ive got a big problem
#3732 [17:08] <xales> what's the problem?
#3733 [17:08] <Wept> jDodson: TIP: Get the Snow Leo CD from a friend and install, tip him 5 bucks.
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#3735 [17:09] <Sean> minecraft crashes EVERY time I try to play. OSX lastest updates
#3736 [17:09] <Wept> I see. It's a Mac thang.
#3737 [17:09] <InS4Ne> Hey Guys here is the idiot
#3738 [17:09] <xales> is there an error?
#3739 [17:09] <jDodson99|Leopard> Wept, I can't
#3740 [17:09] <InS4Ne> i cant upload my skin on minecraft .net ...
#3741 [17:09] <Sean> no errors
#3742 [17:09] <Wept> Sean: You have Leo or Snow Leo?
#3743 [17:09] <Sean> snow
#3744 [17:09] <jDodson99|Leopard> My optical drive is effed up and it won't read discs D:
#3745 [17:09] <Wept> Tried updating through the Options?
#3746 [17:09] <Wept> The "Check for updates" ?
#3747 [17:10] <Sean> its updated to 1.3
#3748 [17:10] <Sean> but it was doing the same thing on 1.2_2
#3749 [17:10] <Wept> I'm talking about if your Snow Leo is up to date.
#3750 [17:10] <Sean> yep
#3751 [17:10] <Wept> Hmm.
#3752 [17:10] <Sean> everything is updated
#3753 [17:10] <relsqui> hmm, odd. my problem doesn't seem to be latency-related; friend on the same server with a normal ping is having the same issues
#3754 [17:10] <InS4Ne> i cant upload my skin on minecraft .net ...
#3755 [17:10] <Wept> Sean: Try to go to the Java settings.
#3756 [17:11] <Sean> for browser play?
#3757 [17:11] <Wept> Try looking if an older version of Java is currently ON.
#3758 [17:11] <Wept> No.
#3759 [17:11] <xales> Sean: What exactly does it say?
#3760 [17:11] <Wept> Go to Settings.
#3761 [17:11] <xales> Wept: macs don't work liket hat
#3762 [17:11] <xales> that*
#3763 [17:11] <Wept> I had a Mac :3
#3764 [17:12] <Wept> AND, I have changed Java settings.
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#3766 [17:12] <xales> I don't think it would let you have more than one version simultaneously
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#3768 [17:12] <Wept> It does save the old ones in a different directory
#3769 [17:12] <Sean> outside of minecraft ( meaning on osx) i have both java 64 and 32 bit enabled. normal?
#3770 [17:13] <xales> Sean, yes
#3771 [17:13] <Sean> ok cool
#3772 [17:13] <xales> Sean, when you try to run it, what exactly happens?
#3773 [17:13] <Sean> i play anywhere from 1min-10mins and then it freezes and quits
#3774 [17:13] <xales> what model of Mac is it?
#3775 [17:14] <Sean> mid 2009 mbp
#3776 [17:14] <Sean> upgraded ram
#3777 [17:14] <xales> do you have any other programs open, at all?
#3778 [17:14] <Sean> ive troubleshooted with that
#3779 [17:14] <Sean> no success
#3780 [17:14] <dopeghoti> Sean: try running it from Terminal, and see if it creates any messages thereupon
#3781 [17:14] <xales> ^
#3782 [17:14] <Sean> whats the command
#3783 [17:14] <xales> where is minecraft.app located?
#3784 [17:14] <Sean> in the app folder
#3785 [17:15] <xales> command is
#3786 [17:15] <dopeghoti> Sean: 'open /Applications/Minecraft.app'
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#3788 [17:15] <xales> /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3789 [17:15] <xales> dopeghoti: mine works better
#3790 [17:15] <xales> :P
#3791 [17:15] <Sean> k
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#3793 [17:15] <dopeghoti> Sean: also, check in ~/Library/Application\ Support/CrashReporter
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#3795 [17:15] <Kyll> Hello everybody
#3796 [17:15] <xales> hi
#3797 [17:15] <dopeghoti> Hi, Dr. Nick^W^WKyll!
#3798 [17:16] <Kyll> I have a strange problem while I'm connected to a private server
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#3800 [17:16] <dopeghoti> could you be more specific?
#3801 [17:16] <Kyll> (Sorry for my poor english...)
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#3803 [17:16] <Sean> minecraft opened using the terminal
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#3805 [17:17] <Kyll> On this server, I can walk, speak (With 25 seconds latence...), jump, swim, but if I break only one block
#3806 [17:17] <Kyll> It's a crash
#3807 [17:17] <Wept> Kyll: Java updated?
#3808 [17:17] <dopeghoti> Kyll: it sounds like something is wrong with the server.
#3809 [17:17] <Kyll> Blue screen and jerky noises
#3810 [17:17] <dopeghoti> Kyll: especially with a half-minute latency on chat messages.
#3811 [17:18] <Kyll> Jave updated
#3812 [17:18] <Kyll> For the host and me
#3813 [17:18] <Wept> I think dope is correct, might be the server.
#3814 [17:18] <Kyll> Anoher person connected to the server, and she hasn't any problem
#3815 [17:18] <xales> Kyll: does it happen when you play on a different server?
#3816 [17:19] <relsqui> xales: that is a smart thing for me to check also, thanks for the idea -_-
#3817 [17:19] <Sean> i found a crash report with minecraft
#3818 [17:19] <Wept> Sean: Upload it if you could?
#3819 [17:19] <Kyll> Xales: I played on my browser, and it didn't happen. I didn't check on other servers
#3820 [17:19] <xales> Kyll: check other servers, if you can find another updated one
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#3822 [17:20] <Nexx> hi
#3823 [17:20] <Sean> lIm new to IRC
#3824 [17:20] <Sean> what the best way to upload
#3825 [17:20] <Kyll> Let's try to find where servers IPs are hidden ^.^
#3826 [17:20] <dopeghoti> ?? pastebin
#3827 [17:20] <Wept> Imageshack :)
#3828 [17:20] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#3829 [17:20] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#3830 [17:21] <Sean> pastebin it is....
#3831 [17:21] <Nexx> I have a problem, can someone help?
#3832 [17:21] <feenyx> ?? asl
#3833 [17:21] <feenyx> ?? ask
#3834 [17:21] <feenyx> even
#3835 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3836 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3837 [17:21] * feenyx hangs his head in shame
#3837 [17:21] * dopeghoti should rewrite that to be a gentler introduction of pastebin, since we already have irc/flood (:
#3837 [17:21] <Sean> http://pastebin.com/1QZYyvhU
#3838 [17:22] <nevercast> I'd just like to declare
#3839 [17:22] <nevercast> that Beta 1.3
#3840 [17:22] <nevercast> Can SMD!!!
#3841 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> SMD?
#3842 [17:22] <Nexx> Okay, so since the Beta 1.2 update my Minecraft refuses to go to the main menu and load the Mojang logo.
#3843 [17:22] <feenyx> GreyVulpine: it involves fellatio
#3844 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3845 [17:22] <xales> Nexx: 1.2? or 1.3
#3846 [17:22] <dopeghoti> Sean: now pastebin the contents of /Users/Sean/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/JavaApplicationStub_2011-02-22-150533_Sean-Binghams-MacBook-Pro.crash (:
#3847 [17:22] <Sean> k...
#3848 [17:23] <Nexx> 1.2 and later have the same problem
#3849 [17:23] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: Sega MegaDrive?
#3850 [17:23] <Nexx> Anyway...
#3851 [17:23] <dopeghoti> ??>> Nexx win/reinst
#3852 [17:23] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, It's almost impossible to get it working on Multiplayer.. so many bugs
#3853 [17:23] <Nexx> It always shows an error log that says that Minecraft couldn't find an accelerated OpenGL
#3854 [17:23] <Nexx> And says I should update my video card drivers
#3855 [17:24] <xales> Nexx: you need to update your graphics card drivers then
#3856 [17:24] <Nexx> But I did so
#3857 [17:24] <ConMan8> Or you can disable OpenGL
#3858 [17:24] <Nexx> And re-installed it a few times
#3859 [17:24] <Wept> @Nevercast: OH YEAH ! Got the server working, thanks ! :-)
#3860 [17:24] <xales> ??> Nexx win/dxdiag
#3861 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Nexx: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3862 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Nexx: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3863 [17:24] <Nexx> I can't disable OpenGL. :(
#3864 [17:24] <xales> ConMan8 was joking ._.
#3865 [17:24] * xales kicked ConMan8 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Don't do that)
#3866 [17:24] <Sean> http://pastebin.com/M0Qxgdjs
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#3868 [17:24] <ConMan8> No I wasn't
#3869 [17:24] <Nexx> And I re-installed Minecraft a couple of times too
#3870 [17:25] <ConMan8> -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false
#3871 [17:25] <Nexx> But it just won't fix
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#3873 [17:25] <xales> Nexx: do what it said about dxdiag
#3874 [17:25] <xales> ConMan8: because that totally works...
#3875 [17:25] <ConMan8> It does
#3876 [17:25] <ConMan8> It works for me
#3877 [17:25] <Nexx> looking at it now...
#3878 [17:25] <Lonit> :( game updated and half of my improvements are gone.
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#3880 [17:25] <dopeghoti> Sean: looks like a problem with the NVIDIA GPU driver
#3881 [17:25] <xales> Lonit: "improvements"?
#3882 [17:26] <Lonit> Sorry, half of my buildings
#3883 [17:26] <ConMan8> Nexx: Does it work in a browser?
#3884 [17:26] <Sean> whats the best way to fix that
#3885 [17:26] <cyphez> any updates regarding having an own server and stuff? still getting connection lost with an open port (obviously) and launching it properly
#3886 [17:26] <xales> ah
#3887 [17:26] <dopeghoti> Sean: Are there any updates for that available through Software Update?
#3888 [17:26] <Sean> just itunes
#3889 [17:26] <xales> cyphez: do you know what NIC you have in the computer?
#3890 [17:26] <dopeghoti> Sean: Also, is your MBP one of the ones with two video processors?
#3891 [17:26] <cyphez> sorry, what's "NIC"?
#3892 [17:26] <dopeghoti> (MBP 2009 15" or larger)
#3893 [17:26] <Naytdawg> If anyone has a chance I could use some help with my update.
#3894 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> network interface card
#3895 [17:26] <cyphez> ah
#3896 [17:26] <Sean> dope: nope, its a 13inch model
#3897 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Your network card
#3898 [17:27] <Naytdawg> Server update that is
#3899 [17:27] <dopeghoti> ??>> Sean mac/profile
#3900 [17:27] <cyphez> I use the integrated one, in ASUS M3N-HD/HDMi
#3901 [17:27] <cyphez> HDMI*
#3902 [17:27] <Nexx> http://pastebin.com/UnZiJ54a
#3903 [17:27] <cyphez> sec I'll check
#3904 [17:27] <Nexx> Did what you said, this is the result
#3905 [17:27] <Nexx> This long, long file..
#3906 [17:27] <xales> Nexx: I see the problem :(
#3907 [17:27] <Wept> cyphez: Try cmd into win search and write in ipconfig and enter. Look for the IP address, open up the Minecraft Server, look for server.properties and write down where it says server ip=YOUR SERVER IP and server port=25565 (yes, that's the one).
#3908 [17:28] <xales> The video card you have is
#3909 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Wait what?
#3910 [17:28] <xales> to put it nicely
#3911 [17:28] <xales> a piece of shit
#3912 [17:28] <Sean> dope: do you just want a hardware overview?
#3913 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> No, you don't put the ip in server-ip
#3914 [17:28] <xales> it doesn't support Minecraft
#3915 [17:28] <Kyll> All the time "Outdated server"...
#3916 [17:28] <Wept> @GreyVulpine: For me, works only like that.
#3917 [17:28] <xales> Kyll: The server isn't updated then
#3918 [17:28] <cyphez> basically I have a normal gigabit one NCI, but aight, I'll try
#3919 [17:28] <Wept> Otherwise the connection times out.
#3920 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> @Wept, it breaks most people's server by doing that
#3921 [17:28] <dopeghoti> indeed, Wept; server-ip is best left blank
#3922 [17:28] <Kyll> Xales: I understood that ^.^
#3923 [17:28] <Nexx> I was already aware that my video card was crud and sludge
#3924 [17:29] <Nexx> But this badly... :(
#3925 [17:29] <xales> Nexx: Yeah, it's quite significantly old
#3926 [17:29] <dopeghoti> ??> Nexx retro
#3927 [17:29] <VoxelHead> Nexx: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#3928 [17:29] <VoxelHead> Nexx: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#3929 [17:29] <xales> people with newer and better cards can't run it
#3930 [17:29] <Nexx> LOL
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#3932 [17:29] <Wept> Still have to find another way to get it working. If left blank, the connection just simply times out.
#3933 [17:29] <Naytdawg> I have a problem where when I update my minecraft_server.jar it rolls back the server by like...a day.
#3934 [17:29] <Sean> dopeghoti: what do you want me to do?
#3935 [17:29] <Lonit> So, busy guys ;) Could it just be because not everything is updated?
#3936 [17:29] <Nexx> So basically I need a new video card lmo
#3937 [17:29] <Nexx> lmao
#3938 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Lonit - ?
#3939 [17:29] <Wept> If I put in the IP, it works perfect.
#3940 [17:29] <xales> Nexx: correct
#3941 [17:30] <dopeghoti> Sean: Go to System Preferences -> Accounts, make a new account. Log in as that user, try Minecraft from there.
#3942 [17:30] <Lonit> That most of my newer buildings are gone
#3943 [17:30] <Nexx> But this is the heaviest I can put into my crappy Dell
#3944 [17:30] <Sean> ahh ok
#3945 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't tell you Lonit
#3946 [17:30] <Nexx> Any others need to be external, which will start at the cost of 120 euros or so
#3947 [17:30] <Lonit> Can't you just lie? Give me a cookie and tell me it will all be ok? :(
#3948 [17:30] <Nexx> So fml :(
#3949 [17:30] <Nexx> Thaks anyway guys
#3950 [17:30] <Nexx> thanks*
#3951 [17:31] <ConMan8> Nexx does it work in the browser
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#3953 [17:32] <Nexx> Nope, same error
#3954 [17:32] <Sean> dopeghoti: i hope it works, ill let yall know
#3955 [17:32] <Sean> thanks
#3956 [17:32] <Wept> GreyVulpine: I'll try one more time. So I leave the IP blank, but put the port to 25565, correct? To connect, I use my own IP address, as I am the host.
#3957 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3958 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Or 127.0.0.1
#3959 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> If you're connecting locally
#3960 [17:32] <Nexx> Time to pick up Minecraft Classic again. :)
#3961 [17:33] <ConMan8> Beta in-browser: no hardware required
#3962 [17:33] <Wept> Weird. It works now - either I was being retarded before, or it's been fixed in 1.3.
#3963 [17:33] <Lonit> Connection Timed out: Connect.... Is that just something I'll just have to wait out? Try again later? OR NEVER PLAY MINECRAFT AGAIN! *that was sarcasm, bitter, tear stained sarcasm... >.<
#3964 [17:33] <dopeghoti> ConMan8: Beta in-browser needs _more_ resources than beta-standalone because the crowser must also be running.
#3965 [17:33] <xales> Lonit: Means the server you are trying to connect to is down
#3966 [17:33] <dopeghoti> er, browser.
#3967 [17:34] <Kyll> Oh, I have also a question: Can someone tell me why are the servers so sloooows? With more than 15 seconds latence on every server (Browser or not), it's absolutely impossible to play multi =(
#3968 [17:34] <ConMan8> dopeghoti: But it doesn't need graphics hardware and stuff
#3969 [17:34] <Naytdawg> Anyone got any idea why my server rolls back when I update the jar?
#3970 [17:34] <Lonit> So, just something I have to wait out. Well, at least theres that.
#3971 [17:34] <xales> Kyll: It is probably your internet connection
#3972 [17:34] <dopeghoti> Kyll: Are you on dial-up internet? Or are your roommates downloading torrents again?
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#3974 [17:34] <xales> Naytdawg: are you using bukkit?
#3975 [17:34] <dopeghoti> ConMan8: er, yes it does.
#3976 [17:34] <Naytdawg> No im not.
#3977 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> xales, I'm thinking it's the server, Both Kealper and I experience significant lag
#3978 [17:34] <dopeghoti> ConMan8: stop making crap up as you go along, it's not making you look good.
#3979 [17:34] <xales> GreyVulpine: :o
#3980 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> If connecting from the outside
#3981 [17:34] <ConMan8> :/
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#3983 [17:35] <Kyll> Xales: Oh, I'm a little 56k... Does Minecraft need a big connexion to work fine?
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#3985 [17:35] <xales> yes
#3986 [17:35] <ItsCriminal> firend of mine gets allways cant connect to minecraft, even new lanucher, mad allready a newinstallation of ir he tried all and none work but i can and 10 other friends can login?
#3987 [17:35] <Daridzord> hey
#3988 [17:35] <Daridzord> anyone not being able to play on a mac?
#3989 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Daridzord
#3990 [17:35] <xales> ItsCriminal: tell the friend to come on then
#3991 [17:35] <Naytdawg> I am using mcmyadmin and I can't update through mcmyadmin but I can login if I update via scp
#3992 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Daridzord - Works just fine, what problem are you experiencing?
#3993 [17:35] <dopeghoti> ??> Naytdawg mods
#3994 [17:35] <xales> Naytdawg: ask in #mcmyadmin
#3995 [17:35] <VoxelHead> Naytdawg: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3996 [17:35] <VoxelHead> Naytdawg: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3997 [17:35] <Kyll> Which connexion? 1M?
#3998 [17:35] <dopeghoti> Kyll: any cable or DSL connection will do nicely
#3999 [17:35] <Daridzord> anyone with mac problems
#4000 [17:35] <xales> Daridzord: Nope
#4001 [17:36] <Daridzord> because i can't play at all
#4002 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Daridzord - What problem are you experiencing?
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#4004 [17:36] * xales brb
#4004 [17:36] <Daridzord> ok well i get on the game
#4005 [17:36] * dopeghoti goes back to work
#4005 [17:36] <Daridzord> press on single player
#4006 [17:36] <LaneAtomic> Is offline mode working on SMP?
#4007 [17:36] <Kyll> Dopeghoti: I can have 56k maximum, cable or not...
#4008 [17:36] <Daridzord> then it crashes
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#4010 [17:36] <dopeghoti> Kyll: ouch ):
#4011 [17:36] <EchoVelocity> how do you log into nickserv
#4012 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Daridzord - Can you move any single player maps you have out of your saves folder, and try again?
#4013 [17:36] <dopeghoti> ??>> EchoVelocity irc
#4014 [17:36] <Kyll> Dopeghoti: Campagne française, c'est vraiment super >.>
#4015 [17:37] <Daridzord> give me a sec
#4016 [17:37] <dopeghoti> Kyll: Je n'parles-pas francais.
#4017 [17:37] <Wept> Peace out all, need to go.
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#4019 [17:37] <Daridzord> i also tried reinstalling it
#4020 [17:37] <EchoVelocity> Voxelhead: I registered earlier and now have come back. I don't know how to "login" if that is the right phrase
#4021 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Daridzord - How did you try reinstalling it?
#4022 [17:38] <Kyll> Dopeghoti: I was saying: French lost country ^.^
#4023 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> EchoVelocity - /msg nickserv identify password
#4024 [17:38] <EchoVelocity> thanks
#4025 [17:39] <xales> GreyVulpine: That's a known issue
#4026 [17:39] <xales> corrupt saves
#4027 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#4028 [17:39] <ngc0202> xD
#4029 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Anything from mojang on that?
#4030 [17:39] <ngc0202> is this entire chat full of ppl asking about nickserv?
#4031 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#4032 [17:39] <Daridzord> somehow i got banned from #minecraft
#4033 [17:39] <Daridzord> without even saying anything
#4034 [17:39] <LaneAtomic> gj
#4035 [17:39] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: I saw some posts on Twitter from Mojang about fixing a savefile issue
#4036 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Daridzord - +M is on in #minecraft, you need a registered nick to speak i nthere
#4037 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> in there*
#4038 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#4039 [17:40] <Capslock> How exactly do I register for #minecraft?
#4040 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> Capslock irc
#4041 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Capslock: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4042 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Capslock: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4043 [17:40] <dopeghoti> Daridzord: ^
#4044 [17:40] <ngc0202> xD
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#4046 [17:40] <xales> GreyVulpine: Esper hit the user record today
#4047 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - No help in #bukkit for you?
#4048 [17:40] <ngc0202> GreyVulpine: I think you lied to me
#4049 [17:40] <xales> because of the update
#4050 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - ?
#4051 [17:40] <ngc0202> what?
#4052 [17:40] <Capslock> thx!
#4053 [17:40] <Jackson413> hey dudes
#4054 [17:40] <ngc0202> oh yeah
#4055 [17:40] <ngc0202> we're all waiting for the update
#4056 [17:40] <Jackson413> can anyone sniff out my error?
#4057 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - Figures
#4058 [17:41] <ngc0202> i got a vanilla server up
#4059 [17:41] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/jyAwW9Ke
#4060 [17:41] <LaneAtomic> Any ideas on why my server isn't accepting external connections? Ports are forwarded, firewall has holes poked...
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#4062 [17:41] <Jackson413> lane ip
#4063 [17:41] <devnill> laneAtomic: i think its on mojangs end
#4064 [17:41] <LaneAtomic> I had online-mode=false
#4065 [17:41] <Jackson413> what is ur ip?
#4066 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> LaneAtomic - Are you able to connect locally?
#4067 [17:41] <devnill> i have the same issue
#4068 [17:41] <ngc0202> lan*
#4069 [17:41] <LaneAtomic> laneatomic.doesntexist.org
#4070 [17:41] <dopeghoti> LaneAtomic: what OS is your server?
#4071 [17:41] <LaneAtomic> Win7
#4072 [17:42] <devnill> can anyone connect to dryfish.net?
#4073 [17:42] <LaneAtomic> using minecraft_server.jar
#4074 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> !check laneatomic.doesn'texist.org
#4075 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> !check laneatomic.doesntexist.org
#4076 [17:42] <dopeghoti> no "'"s in domain names.
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#4078 [17:42] <Chaze007> Hello
#4079 [17:42] <xales> hi
#4080 [17:42] <Jackson413> dudes
#4081 [17:42] <Jackson413> what is wrong
#4082 [17:42] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/jyAwW9Ke
#4083 [17:42] <Chaze007> Anyone know anything on my 'outdated server' error, I'm sure it relates to the update.
#4084 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> LaneAtomic - Can you double check your port forwarding and everything? Make sure it's still correct?
#4085 [17:43] <xales> Chaze007: did you update the server..?
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#4087 [17:43] <LaneAtomic> Was working perfectly fine before updating the server jar. And yes, I've checked and triple-checked the port forwarding.
#4088 [17:43] <xenochrist> hi! can i still host my own server??
#4089 [17:43] <Chaze007> Dunnohow. :o
#4090 [17:43] <xales> xenochrist: yes
#4091 [17:43] <uhtr5r> Chaze007, your client is outdated
#4092 [17:43] <xales> Chaze007: just download the .jar again
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#4094 [17:43] <ngc0202> redownload minecraft_server.exe or minecraft_server.jar
#4095 [17:43] <xales> ^
#4096 [17:43] <Chaze007> Hmm, I may just redownload minecraft completely
#4097 [17:43] <Chaze007> Since my mods are prolly useless now.
#4098 [17:43] <uhtr5r> thats what we said .-.
#4099 [17:44] <Chaze007> :P <3
#4100 [17:44] <uhtr5r> redownload the .jar is all of minecraft
#4101 [17:44] <dopeghoti> ??> LaneAtomic java/ipv6
#4102 [17:44] <VoxelHead> LaneAtomic: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#4103 [17:44] <VoxelHead> LaneAtomic: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#4104 [17:44] <Jackson413> can someone help a brotha
#4105 [17:44] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/jyAwW9Ke
#4106 [17:44] <LaneAtomic> I'll give it a try.
#4107 [17:44] <xenochrist> i tried redownloading the server software and minecraft, but I can't connect to the server it creates.
#4108 [17:45] <LaneAtomic> !check laneatomic.doesntexist.org
#4109 [17:45] <Jackson413> xeno kindly try putting localhost into your ip
#4110 [17:45] <Jackson413> xeno kindly try putting localhost into your ip
#4111 [17:45] <xenochrist> i will try
#4112 [17:45] <LaneAtomic> Still failing.
#4113 [17:46] <Jackson413> can someone help a brotha
#4114 [17:46] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/jyAwW9Ke
#4115 [17:46] <xenochrist> oh hey it works.
#4116 [17:46] <xenochrist> but my friend can'T connect either :|
#4117 [17:46] <Jackson413> there you are
#4118 [17:46] <Jackson413> well are your ports forwarded?
#4119 [17:46] <xenochrist> hmm good question
#4120 [17:46] <xenochrist> i'd have to do that on my router?
#4121 [17:46] <KA_Gamer> Ok, one of my friends is trying to connect, but it's saying outdated server..... the port forward is right and the IPv4 from cmd matches the one in server properties. lastly, the external ip he's puttin matches what hes puttin in. he's been able to connect before...
#4122 [17:46] <Jackson413> yah
#4123 [17:46] <Jackson413> you need to go into your router and forward it
#4124 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> KA_Gamer - Need to update your server
#4125 [17:46] <KA_Gamer> how?
#4126 [17:46] <Jackson413> grey
#4127 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> download a new minecraft_server from the website
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#4129 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net
#4130 [17:47] <Jackson413> GreyVulpine: can you help a brotha?
#4131 [17:47] <KA_Gamer> i need to use a correction link last time....
#4132 [17:47] <xales> Jackson413: Use the vanilla server
#4133 [17:47] <KA_Gamer> *needed
#4134 [17:47] <Jackson413> xales: doesnt work
#4135 [17:47] <ItsCriminal> is there anything wrong with the download http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1298414394623 ? friend cant open that, no icon and not letting him open it?
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#4137 [17:47] <xales> Jackson413: Give the error from the server without mods
#4138 [17:47] <Jackson413> hold on
#4139 [17:48] <nevercast> xales, mate.
#4140 [17:48] <jDodson99|Leopard> ItsCriminal: Change the filename to minecraft.exe
#4141 [17:48] <xales> ItsCriminal: there is nothing wrong with it
#4142 [17:48] <Jackson413> xales: how did you make it underline?
#4143 [17:48] <nevercast> xales, have you tried out 1.3?
#4144 [17:48] <jDodson99|Leopard> ItsCriminal: For whatever reason, it downloads as "minecraft" but it needs to be called "minecraft.exe"
#4145 [17:48] <KA_Gamer> Do I need to use a correction link if i had to use it last time (to download minecraftserver.exe)
#4146 [17:48] <xales> KA_Gamer: just use this link
#4147 [17:48] <ItsCriminal> jDodson99|Leopard thank you
#4148 [17:48] <xales> !server
#4149 [17:49] <jDodson99|Leopard> ItsCriminal: No prob.
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#4151 [17:49] <KA_Gamer> ok, ill let you know if i have more trouble.
#4152 [17:50] <Jackson413> hey dudes is it possible to change an email on a minecraft account?
#4153 [17:50] <xales> no
#4154 [17:50] <xales> not right now
#4155 [17:50] <Jackson413> ok
#4156 [17:50] <LaneAtomic> So, it's not an ipv4/v6 issue. I have no ideas what else it could be.
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#4159 [17:51] <xales> LaneAtomic: can you connect with 'localhost'?
#4160 [17:51] <Kristina12> Can someone help me with Mac issues?
#4161 [17:51] <LaneAtomic> Yes
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#4163 [17:51] <xales> Kristina12: what is the issue?
#4164 [17:51] <pi_exp> Ohai
#4165 [17:51] <LaneAtomic> But, I can't connect on a locally accessible computer
#4166 [17:51] <xales> hi
#4167 [17:51] <Kristina12> Well
#4168 [17:51] <LaneAtomic> (my laptop on the same network)
#4169 [17:51] <Chaze007> what's better to use, the .exe or .jar?
#4170 [17:51] <LaneAtomic> And externally people can not connect.
#4171 [17:51] <pi_exp> Is there a flymod for 1.3
#4172 [17:51] <dopeghoti> Chaze007: depends on the OS.
#4173 [17:51] <Chaze007> like, in personal preference.
#4174 [17:51] <ngc0202> depends chazx
#4175 [17:51] <Chaze007> Windows.
#4176 [17:51] <dopeghoti> ??> pi_exp mods
#4177 [17:51] <VoxelHead> pi_exp: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#4178 [17:51] <Chaze007> 7 64 bit.
#4179 [17:51] <VoxelHead> pi_exp: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#4180 [17:51] <Kristina12> I log on perfectly, but once I click 'Singleplayer' it loads out and shuts down.
#4181 [17:52] <dopeghoti> ??>> Kristina12 mac/reinst
#4182 [17:52] <nevercast> Chaze007, use the exe on windows
#4183 [17:52] <Chaze007> alrighty.
#4184 [17:52] <pi_exp> Ok
#4185 [17:52] <xales> LaneAtomic: there is nothing in the server .jar, correct?
#4186 [17:52] <pi_exp> Thanks
#4187 [17:52] <nevercast> Chaze007, the jar is only available for OSX and Linux support
#4188 [17:52] <xales> err
#4189 [17:52] <Kristina12> Will I lose my maps though?
#4190 [17:52] <ItsCriminal> is it possible that my friend got banned he called psidoctor
#4191 [17:52] <xales> nothing on the server-ip line
#4192 [17:52] <LaneAtomic> What do you mean, xales?
#4193 [17:52] <xales> in server.properties
#4194 [17:52] <ItsCriminal> for some wierd reason ^^
#4195 [17:52] <dopeghoti> Kristina12: don't delete 'saves' (:
#4196 [17:52] <LaneAtomic> 127.0.0.1
#4197 [17:52] <Kristina12> Okay, thank you guys!
#4198 [17:52] <LaneAtomic> which, afaik is default?
#4199 [17:52] <dopeghoti> Good luck!
#4200 [17:52] <xales> LaneAtomic: That's why it doesnt work
#4201 [17:52] <oxE1> Kris, deleting minecraft.app will not affect existing saves
#4202 [17:52] <Kingrad> Hey guys, bit of an issue. Just took a week off (as in starting this morning), left my SMP server running... Well I decided to play a little craft and it updated it and now it wont let me log onto my server... anyone know if I can unupdate my client somehow?
#4203 [17:52] <xales> you can't put an IP in there
#4204 [17:53] <dopeghoti> Kingrad: no, but you can update your server.
#4205 [17:53] <xales> LaneAtomic: remove the IP
#4206 [17:53] <Kingrad> I wont have access to my server for a week :(
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#4208 [17:54] <Kristina12> I just went to application support, and there is no Minecraft in there. :/
#4209 [17:54] <Chaze007> where would my server files be located/
#4210 [17:54] <Chaze007> nvm
#4211 [17:54] <dopeghoti> Kristina12: did you look in /Library, or /Users/YOURNAME/Library ?
#4212 [17:54] <Kristina12> I'll check library
#4213 [17:54] <dopeghoti> Kristina12: you want the one in your personal home directory (:
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#4215 [17:55] <LaneAtomic> worked. Thanks so much.
#4216 [17:55] <dopeghoti> Kristina12: /Users/YOU/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft (NOT Minecraft.)
#4217 [17:55] <Kristina12> Where is personal home directory? Sorry I hate macs ):
#4218 [17:55] <Kristina12> got it, thanks :D
#4219 [17:56] <dopeghoti> Kristina12: cheers!
#4220 [17:56] <Kristina12> Well, I dragged bin to the trash, and I'm still having the same problem :(
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#4223 [17:58] <Sean> so Im back
#4224 [17:58] <Sean> but with good news
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#4226 [17:59] <Sean> dopeghoti: minecraft seems to be playing fine in this new account on my mac
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#4228 [18:00] <Kristina12> Lucky :/
#4229 [18:00] <KA_Gamer> Thanks for the help guys. I LOVE the new Mojang logo.
#4230 [18:00] <Kristina12> I don't know what's going on..
#4231 [18:00] <Kristina12> Oh the joys of being a girl gamer and not understanding how anything works LOL.
#4232 [18:01] <AndrewPH> That's no excuse :p
#4233 [18:01] <Kristina12> I don't have any other ones :/
#4234 [18:01] <Kristina12> Should I try to delete everything besides 'Saves' and then reinstall?
#4235 [18:02] <xales> Kristina12: Try copying saves out of that folder
#4236 [18:02] <xales> copy it to your desktop and delete it from in the folder
#4237 [18:02] <Kristina12> okay, thank you
#4238 [18:02] <DeeWoo> http://deewoo.no/stuff/minecraft/2011-02-22_23.56.19.png
#4239 [18:02] <DeeWoo> are these new?
#4240 [18:02] <DeeWoo> or have I never seen them before
#4241 [18:02] <Kristina12> those are rare pets
#4242 [18:03] <DeeWoo> pets? cool
#4243 [18:03] <Kristina12> that's what my friend told me :P lol
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#4245 [18:03] <KA_Gamer> it seems like the server is busy today cuz of update. aren't updates supposed to make things easier? XD
#4246 [18:03] <GreyHatSalafi> Uhhh i just logged in and lost my world
#4247 [18:04] <GreyHatSalafi> so i closed the program...relaunched...my world has been reset
#4248 [18:04] <Chaze007> uhh
#4249 [18:04] <Kristina12> Yes.. this update has caused lots of problems :(
#4250 [18:04] <Chaze007> where do i get the server.jar stuff
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#4253 [18:04] <darking> my freinds server keeps saying connection refused to connect what do i do?
#4254 [18:04] <xales> darking: his server isn't working then
#4255 [18:05] <darking> what can i do to fix it? i know in irl
#4256 [18:05] <GreyHatSalafi> i lost alllll my work
#4257 [18:05] <GreyHatSalafi> not cool
#4258 [18:05] <Kristina12> :/
#4259 [18:05] <xales> darking: you should have your friend come on
#4260 [18:05] <Kristina12> I think I lost my worlds too
#4261 [18:05] <KA_Gamer> I do have one question though: what's the white list all about?
#4262 [18:05] <xales> KA_Gamer: It only lets certain people join
#4263 [18:05] <KA_Gamer> ok.
#4264 [18:06] <KA_Gamer> Thanks.
#4265 [18:06] <xales> GreyHatSalafi: were you using any mods beforehand?
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#4267 [18:07] <Tris> random popin, does texture packs count as mods?
#4268 [18:07] <xales> relsqui: if it's a HD texture pack
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#4270 [18:08] <GreyHatSalafi> xales no
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#4272 [18:09] <xales> that's not supposed to happen then
#4273 [18:09] <xales> are you on a Mac?
#4274 [18:09] <Kristina12> So I noticed something, I got my issue fixed, and it went to singleplayer, but my maps were gone. So then i put my saves in the folder, and now it doesnt work.
#4275 [18:09] <xales> Kristina12: Yeah, it seems like the saves are getting messed up
#4276 [18:09] <xales> it should be fixed in the next update
#4277 [18:09] <KA_Gamer> let me see about mine
#4278 [18:09] <Kristina12> So does that mean I lose my worlds?
#4279 [18:09] <Kristina12> Ah
#4280 [18:09] <xales> which should be in the next few days
#4281 [18:09] <GreyHatSalafi> xales linux
#4282 [18:10] <xales> GreyHatSalafi: did you use the launcher to update?
#4283 [18:10] <GreyHatSalafi> i only used the original launcher
#4284 [18:10] <GreyHatSalafi> and the launcher updated and i played fine earlier
#4285 [18:11] <GreyHatSalafi> i just tried to login again now and this happened
#4286 [18:11] <Kristina12> This is so confusing
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#4288 [18:11] <Kristina12> something messed up with macs I'm guessing
#4289 [18:11] <xales> GreyHatSalafi: I have no idea then...
#4290 [18:11] <xales> Kristina12: yeah
#4291 [18:12] <KA_Gamer> My saves seem fine.
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#4293 [18:12] <Kristina12> You're one of the lucky ones
#4294 [18:12] <KA_Gamer> So its not everyone whos bein effected.
#4295 [18:12] <Kristina12> I don't even know if I should bother playing though? Because I'll get back my saves eventually
#4296 [18:12] <xales> It's up to you...
#4297 [18:13] <xales> it's not guaranteed that you will get them back, but it's pretty likely
#4298 [18:13] <Tris> backup your saves and just play a new world for the time being?
#4299 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Try using the minecraft_server
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#4301 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Putting your singple player world there
#4302 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Wonder if it'll autoconvert there
#4303 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Then move it back
#4304 [18:13] <Kristina12> Too confusing for me lol :/
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#4306 [18:13] <KA_Gamer> Kristina12 you can play a new file just to practice minning or something.
#4307 [18:14] <mib_6wf6tg> ...is anyone else having the issue of the game crashing after selecting the singleplayer option?
#4308 [18:14] <Kristina12> I'm trying to become more computer savy but who knows
#4309 [18:14] <KA_Gamer> nope
#4310 [18:14] <xales> mib_6wf6tg: are you on a mac?
#4311 [18:14] <Kristina12> And yes, I am
#4312 [18:14] <mib_6wf6tg> yes
#4313 [18:14] <KA_Gamer> Is being on a mac an issue for a lot of people
#4314 [18:14] <Kristina12> :/
#4315 [18:14] <mib_6wf6tg> it worked fine yesterday.
#4316 [18:14] <Kristina12> same here
#4317 [18:14] <KA_Gamer> (ex of why windows isn't so bad after all)
#4318 [18:14] <KA_Gamer> minecraft updated^
#4319 [18:14] <xales> mib_6wf6tg: open the (your home folder) - Library - Application Support - minecraft
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#4321 [18:15] <Kristina12> I'm buying a windows this summer, I hate macs
#4322 [18:15] <xales> drag the "saves' folder on your desktop
#4323 [18:15] <KA_Gamer> Kristina12: that's a rare statement
#4324 [18:15] <mib_6wf6tg> and it should work?
#4325 [18:15] <xales> mib_6wf6tg: yes
#4326 [18:15] <mib_6wf6tg> ... yep, widnows is great for many reasons, i i enjoy my mac though.
#4327 [18:16] <devnill> you can install windows on your mac if you have an intel processor
#4328 [18:16] <mib_6wf6tg> okay, I'll try now
#4329 [18:16] <Kristina12> It is rare, I used to love macs but not for gaming
#4330 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Kristina12 - Mind doing an experiment with me? Concerning the map conversion?
#4331 [18:16] <KA_Gamer> macs are good for art, not gaming
#4332 [18:16] <Kristina12> And I've become such a gaming girl so it sucks. and sure, what kind of experiment?
#4333 [18:16] <mib_6wf6tg> :-D you are a nice person.
#4334 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Seeing if the server will convert your map for you
#4335 [18:16] <mib_6wf6tg> I hope many days of fruitullness descend upon you
#4336 [18:16] <Kristina12> Sure, I'll try lol
#4337 [18:16] <mib_6wf6tg> *fruitfulness
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#4339 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Kristina12 - You're on a mac, correct?
#4340 [18:17] <Kristina12> Yes
#4341 [18:17] <Kristina12> Wait
#4342 [18:17] <mib_6wf6tg> bye, and again, thanks
#4343 [18:17] <Kristina12> 1 issue
#4344 [18:17] <mib_6wf6tg> me?
#4345 [18:17] <Kristina12> I dragged saves out and tried to play
#4346 [18:17] <Kristina12> noo lol sorry
#4347 [18:17] <mib_6wf6tg> ok, bye
#4348 [18:17] <Thefelixdekat> hey hey
#4349 [18:17] <Kristina12> It goes to open new world, I choose that, and then it crashes.
#4350 [18:17] <xales> hi
#4351 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> oh?
#4352 [18:17] <Kristina12> OOPS.
#4353 [18:17] <Kristina12> lol
#4354 [18:18] <Kristina12> *create new world, sorry
#4355 [18:18] <Thefelixdekat> can somebody tell me why i cant setup a server and get the error bad login ?(offical server download) and prieum member
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#4357 [18:18] <xales> Thefelixdekat: what is your username?
#4358 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Kristina12 - It crashes, even with a new world?
#4359 [18:18] <dopeghoti> KA_Gamer: this is #MineCraftHelp, not #OSEvangelism. Thanks.
#4360 [18:19] <xales> lol
#4361 [18:19] <mib_11crbs> ... i tried, and it failed past that window. I blame overexcitement on my part. srry about the new name...
#4362 [18:19] <xales> "you can guess I didn't buy it? shit ragequit"
#4363 [18:19] <Kristina12> Yep, crashes :(
#4364 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Kristina12 - Well crap
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#4366 [18:20] <Kristina12> Yeah, idk
#4367 [18:20] <mib_2js327> i am bad at interneting...
#4368 [18:20] <Kristina12> Same here^
#4369 [18:20] <mib_2js327> so, me, again?
#4370 [18:20] <mib_2js327> anyway, still no work
#4371 [18:21] <mib_2js327> did i miss anything good?
#4372 [18:21] <xales> mib_2js327: what's the problem again?
#4373 [18:21] <mib_2js327> like how to get past the create new world screen?
#4374 [18:21] <mib_2js327> the moving of te saves folder did work, but now it crashes when i click create new world.
#4375 [18:21] <xales> on a Mac?
#4376 [18:21] <mib_2js327> yes
#4377 [18:22] <Kristina12> same here ^^
#4378 [18:22] <xales> mib_2js327: not yet
#4379 [18:22] <Kristina12> same exact issue sadly
#4380 [18:22] <xales> wait a bit for an update
#4381 [18:22] <Kristina12> Wah I want to play D:
#4382 [18:22] <mib_2js327> a bit as in by tomorrow/working on it? or the wait on the addiction binges for a week?
#4383 [18:23] <xales> they are working on it
#4384 [18:23] <xales> maybe tomorrow?
#4385 [18:23] <mib_2js327> ok, ok. that is good to know
#4386 [18:23] <Kristina12> Thank god.
#4387 [18:23] <Kristina12> I'll have to play WoW for tonight. Hopefully its fixed soon :/
#4388 [18:23] <mib_2js327> well, not that addicted.
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#4390 [18:24] <Kristina12> Lol
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#4392 [18:24] <Randomawol> hey
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#4394 [18:24] <mib_2js327> guess its more Top Gear re-runs... Hopefully will get good enough @ Minecraft to see you all online.
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#4398 [18:24] <mib_2js327> bye.
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#4401 [18:25] <Epsend> has anyone ever tried with the new chunk seed thing on the new map creator to imput what i call your birthday chunks
#4402 [18:25] <Epsend> different forms of the numbers of your bday
#4403 [18:26] <dopeghoti> nevercast: ever hear from your sister mate?
#4404 [18:26] <Epsend> like if your bday is january 1st 1983 do like 1183 01011983
#4405 [18:26] <nevercast> dopeghoti, She's fine
#4406 [18:26] <Epsend> etc
#4407 [18:26] <Epsend> ive been trying this
#4408 [18:26] <nevercast> dopeghoti, my mate Isaac is likely dead though
#4409 [18:26] <dopeghoti> nevercast: glad to hear about your sister; I hope that you're wrong about Isaac.
#4410 [18:26] <Snojo> So, erm... I'm looking for help so I came here. My computer shut down while playing the game and my world disappeared. It wouldn't have been a problem before the 1.3 patch but I just can't make it come back :S
#4411 [18:27] <Epsend> also if anyone knows any good chunk numbers
#4412 [18:27] <Epsend> ?
#4413 [18:27] <nevercast> dopeghoti, me too.. although they've called off the search in the building he was belived to be in.
#4414 [18:27] <nevercast> dopeghoti, they don't think anyone is alive in there
#4415 [18:27] <dopeghoti> :(
#4416 [18:27] <xales> Snojo: You should wait until the map editors are updated for 1.3 - there is a way to fix it
#4417 [18:27] <xales> just be careful not to make a world with the same name
#4418 [18:27] <xales> until then
#4419 [18:27] <Randomawol> can any1 i bought the game an it gave me a server error an i still dont have the game an im out 20 dollars
#4420 [18:27] <Snojo> Alright, will do that :) The new system complicates everything xD
#4421 [18:27] <Snojo> still love it though
#4422 [18:28] <Epsend> im impressed though such simple thing as changing the lighting system and the game looks way different to me njow
#4423 [18:28] <Epsend> in quality etc
#4424 [18:28] <Epsend> almost like it's an hd texture pack
#4425 [18:29] <nevercast> Argh!! My computer wont even play dubstep!
#4426 [18:29] <nevercast> piece of shite
#4427 [18:29] <Randomawol> lol
#4428 [18:29] <ArmEagle> hmm, do animals spawn on grass/dirt covered by tracks?
#4429 [18:30] <Randomawol> ??? tracks
#4430 [18:30] <ArmEagle> rail
#4431 [18:30] <dopeghoti> Randomawol: there was an update today; the servers you are connecting to are probably out-of-date.
#4432 [18:30] <dopeghoti> Randomawol: once the servers have been updated, you'll be able to connect just fine.
#4433 [18:30] <Randomawol> when i went to bought the game 4 days ago an well im sad
#4434 [18:30] <dopeghoti> I'm not sure how I feel about the incorporation of BetterLight :p
#4435 [18:31] <dopeghoti> !client
#4436 [18:31] <dopeghoti> Randomawol: ^ download from there, play, and enjoy
#4437 [18:31] <Randomawol> kk
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#4439 [18:32] <Randomawol> it gave me a user not premium when my bank says i had 20 dollars taken out so can u fix it plz
#4440 [18:32] <Arachon> So... running wget on http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1298416339810 does not get me a .jar file... Where do I download it from?
#4441 [18:32] <xales> Randomawol: just wait then
#4442 [18:33] <xales> Randomawol: or, email payment@mojang.com
#4443 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Randomawol - Just wait, it usually takes some time for the payment to go through
#4444 [18:33] <Randomawol> i bought it 4 days ago
#4445 [18:33] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: xales: purchase was four days ago
#4446 [18:33] <xales> ah
#4447 [18:33] <KA_Gamer> I'm sorry for comparing OS. i know this is a bit late, but I've been idling
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#4449 [18:33] <xales> Randomawol: email payment@mojang.com
#4450 [18:33] <Randomawol> an i did email them
#4451 [18:33] <dopeghoti> Randomawol: email daniel@mojang.com with payment confirmation information and they'll get you sorted.
#4452 [18:33] <Randomawol> thanks
#4453 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Randomawol - I'd send another email to daniel@mojang.com and payment@mojang.com
#4454 [18:34] * dopeghoti takes the wakizashi out of GreyVulpine's spleen.
#4454 [18:34] <Randomawol> ive sent 2 or 3 to payments
#4455 [18:34] <xales> Randomawol: how long ago?
#4456 [18:34] <xales> and, payments or payment?
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#4458 [18:34] <dopeghoti> Randomawol: send one (one!) more to daniel@
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#4460 [18:35] <Arachon> aanyone?
#4461 [18:35] <Randomawol> i got an email from support saying "your request (#1126) has been received an is being reviewed by our staff" now wat
#4462 [18:36] <xales> Randomawol: just wait
#4463 [18:36] <Randomawol> how long dose this stuff take
#4464 [18:36] <Randomawol> usally
#4465 [18:38] <KA_Gamer> Give it 7 days, then seek more help Randomawol.
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#4468 [18:41] <Chaze007> question
#4469 [18:41] <Flamechains> Hey
#4470 [18:42] <Chaze007> ohwait
#4471 [18:42] <Kristina12> Thanks for everyones help, I'm off for now :P
#4472 [18:42] <Chaze007> nevermind..
#4473 [18:42] <Arachon> I ask again... I'm trying to get the new server jar file through wget, but the link on the download page does not work..
#4474 [18:42] <xales> Arachon: use this link
#4475 [18:42] <xales> !server
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#4477 [18:43] <Chaze007> does anyone know how the addset command works
#4478 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> addset? for whitelisting?
#4479 [18:43] <Chaze007> for time
#4480 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#4481 [18:43] <Flamechains> i have a question, i updated minecraft to 1.3(beta) now and i then started up my server. Now i can't join the server and it says my server is outdated. do i have to update the server somehow or what?
#4482 [18:44] <KA_Gamer> ^was gonna ask the same.
#4483 [18:44] <KA_Gamer> Oops, nvm
#4484 [18:44] <xales> Flamechains: yes
#4485 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Flamechains - You need to update your server as well
#4486 [18:44] <Chaze007> in admin commands it's like /time <add:set> <amount>
#4487 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server from minecraft.net Flamechains
#4488 [18:44] <KA_Gamer> Upload new server Flamechanins.
#4489 [18:44] <KA_Gamer> !server
#4490 [18:44] <Flamechains> thanks grey
#4491 [18:44] <shirkamisamyogai> how does one update their server?
#4492 [18:44] <Chaze007> Flamechains: Do you use any certain provider?
#4493 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server from minecraft.net Flamechains
#4494 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> er
#4495 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> shirkamisamyogai
#4496 [18:44] <nevercast> Woo
#4497 [18:45] <shirkamisamyogai> yes, GreyVulpine?
#4498 [18:45] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I managed to get my client rolled back to 1.2
#4499 [18:45] <KA_Gamer> er, download, not upload
#4500 [18:45] <Chaze007> shirkamisamyogai: with the new minecraft_server.jar
#4501 [18:45] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Now I can play MC again :D
#4502 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#4504 [18:45] <shirkamisamyogai> Chaze007: I have a new laptop and downloaded the new launch from minecraft.net
#4505 [18:45] <shirkamisamyogai> does that have the new .jar file?
#4506 [18:46] <Chaze007> shirkamisamyogai: I dunno, where do you generally host from?
#4507 [18:46] <shirkamisamyogai> oh--*facepalms*
#4508 [18:46] <Chaze007> your PC, or a game server?
#4509 [18:46] <shirkamisamyogai> don't mind me
#4510 [18:46] <Flamechains> ok downloaded the new server software how do i change it with the original without messing up my server?
#4511 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Just replace the minecraft_server.jar file
#4512 [18:46] <Flamechains> ok
#4513 [18:46] <shirkamisamyogai> Chaze007: I'm not the admin on the server--they are away in europe for a bit. and I believe they're renting the server or something
#4514 [18:46] <Flamechains> thanks a lot
#4515 [18:46] <Flamechains> :D
#4516 [18:46] <shirkamisamyogai> kk, GreyVulpine
#4517 [18:47] <Chaze007> xales: there's no respawn cmds?
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#4519 [18:47] * shirkamisamyogai will tell him that
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#4519 [18:48] <xales> Chaze007: no
#4520 [18:48] <xales> not without mods, again
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#4522 [18:49] <devnill> any news on whats causing the issues with servers?
#4523 [18:50] <Flamechains> wow the new minecraft graphics are nice
#4524 [18:50] <devnill> yeah
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#4526 [18:50] <devnill> i cant wait to play online :(
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#4528 [18:52] <Chaze007> xales: do any of those sorts of mods work with 1.3 yet?
#4529 [18:53] <xales> Chaze007: I don't know
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#4531 [18:53] <Poinball> The bukkit 1.3 is out ?
#4532 [18:53] <Chaze007> alright
#4533 [18:53] <xales> Poinball: ask in #bukkit
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#4535 [18:54] <Poinball> Ehen i try to talk : #bukkit Cannot send to channel
#4536 [18:54] <RayeS> so just a general question.. anyone hosting a server.. and if so is it just a plain server or do u use any program around it?
#4537 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Poinball - You need to register to talk in #bukkit
#4538 [18:55] <Poinball> kk
#4539 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#4540 [18:55] <xales> RayeS: you don't need a program, no
#4541 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> RayeS - Nobody has a working modded server righ tnow
#4542 [18:55] <RayeS> ah ye true cause of the update
#4543 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit is still being updated, so the only thing that works, is vanilla
#4544 [18:55] <RayeS> but just wondering as I was working with McMyadmin..
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#4546 [18:55] <RayeS> but it seems it runs buggy sometimes..
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#4548 [18:56] <RayeS> before the update that was ;)
#4549 [18:56] <shirkamisamyogai> thank you again, Chaze007 and GreyVulpine and Xales
#4550 [18:56] <RayeS> especially when 5 or more ppl in the server
#4551 [18:56] * shirkamisamyogai poofs
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#4553 [18:56] <RayeS> so was wondering what others are using
#4554 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Once an official mod API is released, we'll probably use that. Until then, fans will have to rely on bukkit for their SMP modding needs
#4555 [18:57] <Flamechains> well im going to bed now its 1 at night here now
#4556 [18:57] <noob> is it common to not find any spiders? I have been playing for a couple weeks and have never seen a spider
#4557 [18:57] <Flamechains> got my server back running so goodnight
#4558 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Cya Flamechains
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#4560 [18:57] <xales> noob: no..that isn't normal
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#4563 [18:58] <drezi> i keep getting outdated server with Hmod
#4564 [18:58] <noob> hmm, thot not. are they more common in certain land areas?
#4565 [18:58] <drezi> and i dont like 1.3
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#4567 [18:59] <xales> drezi: too bad
#4568 [18:59] <xales> if you don't want to use 1.3, then why did you update to it
#4569 [18:59] <Netu> Rofl.
#4570 [18:59] <drezi> i rent a server
#4571 [18:59] <drezi> and i changed the profile back
#4572 [18:59] <xales> okay...?
#4573 [19:00] <drezi> to hmod
#4574 [19:00] <drezi> and it says outdated server
#4575 [19:00] <xales> yes
#4576 [19:00] <xales> because it is outdated
#4577 [19:00] <drezi> how do i fix it
#4578 [19:00] <xales> update the server
#4579 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> hmod is even less up to date than bukkit
#4580 [19:00] <xales> ^
#4581 [19:00] <drezi> how can i still use hmod
#4582 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> All the devs that worked on hmod, quit, at the start of the year
#4583 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> They moved to bukkit
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#4585 [19:00] <lotto> hi
#4586 [19:00] <KA_Gamer> Hey lotto
#4587 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4588 [19:01] <lotto> i did a server
#4589 [19:01] <lotto> i was working very well
#4590 [19:01] <lotto> but with the new version i have crazy lags
#4591 [19:01] <lotto> i found nothing on forum
#4592 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only one
#4593 [19:01] <lotto> someone found any solutions ?
#4594 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Wait for an update, I suppose
#4595 [19:02] <KA_Gamer> Lotto: Yeah, some of the bugs are gonna be ironed out soon, in another update.
#4596 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> I can't seem to fix my server lag issue at all. I don't think it's something on my end
#4597 [19:02] <Arachon> Is it at all possible to run minecraft server without sudo?
#4598 [19:02] <lotto> i did it on root
#4599 [19:03] <lotto> i think not
#4600 [19:03] <Arachon> I'm fairly certain I used to be able to
#4601 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> I don't see why not?
#4602 [19:03] <lotto> Can we downgrade a server
#4603 [19:03] <xales> you shouldn't run it as root
#4604 [19:03] <lotto> ,?
#4605 [19:03] <xales> that is very, very bad
#4606 [19:03] <Arachon> what Xales said
#4607 [19:03] <KA_Gamer> be our experiment on w/o suddo
#4608 [19:03] <lotto> xales : why ? ^^
#4609 [19:03] <xales> like - "you will get hacked" bad
#4610 [19:03] <Arachon> Besides, Minecraft is a beta, no wonder telling what kinds of security holes there are
#4611 [19:04] <xales> lotto: because, if someone exploits the server
#4612 [19:04] <lotto> xD
#4613 [19:04] <xales> then they are root
#4614 [19:04] <Arachon> ergo, I don't want it to run with sudo priveligies
#4615 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Wow, neat, I think it's minecraft server being crappy. I just loaded a new map on my server, and it only loads a 16x16 chunk of land
#4616 [19:04] <xales> as opposed to a user that can't do anything, anyway
#4617 [19:04] <lotto> xelos : np they can come ^^
#4618 [19:04] <lotto> i will try without root
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#4620 [19:05] <darkking> hey can someone help me?
#4621 [19:05] <KA_Gamer> Who would hack anyway.
#4622 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> darkking -With?
#4623 [19:05] <xales> KA_Gamer: Plenty of people
#4624 [19:05] <darkking> my freins server we cant get to run can u help?
#4625 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> darkking - Define, "Can't get to run"
#4626 [19:06] <Xerati> using hmod
#4627 [19:06] <Xerati> (lol)
#4628 [19:06] <KA_Gamer> Darkking: Whats the error message.
#4629 [19:06] <darkking> connection refused to connect
#4630 [19:06] <Xerati> is it running?
#4631 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> darkking - Have you port forwarded? Checked firewalls?
#4632 [19:06] <darkking> yah for him he can get in
#4633 [19:06] <Xerati> has it ever worked for you before?
#4634 [19:06] <KA_Gamer> ^double check all port forwards and check ips are matchin
#4635 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Is he the one that is running the server?
#4636 [19:06] <darkking> yah
#4637 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Then he most likely didn't check or do port forwarding
#4638 [19:07] <KA_Gamer> tell him to do that.
#4639 [19:07] <KA_Gamer> or her
#4640 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you get him on here, it'd be easier to troubleshoot
#4641 [19:07] <darkking> he bro can play on it too from his server
#4642 [19:07] <darkking> sure
#4643 [19:08] <darkking> 1 sec
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#4645 [19:08] <KA_Gamer> Hey clank714.
#4646 [19:08] <darkking> nvm bye
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#4648 [19:09] <KA_Gamer> Hey Snojo!
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#4650 [19:10] <KA_Gamer> Hey Cial.
#4651 [19:10] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Did you get 1.3 server to work?
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#4653 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> "work", yes
#4654 [19:12] <KA_Gamer> Hello mirthblade.
#4655 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Be non-laggy, and somewhat playable, no.
#4656 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it's something on my end either, it's minecraft
#4657 [19:12] <noob> xales: any ideas about my lack of spider issue?
#4658 [19:13] <xales> noob: are you using any mods?
#4659 [19:13] <noob> no
#4660 [19:13] <xales> try generating a new world
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#4662 [19:14] <noob> yeah, i did, and there are spiders in new world, but that means abandoning weeks worth of work on my main
#4663 [19:14] <KA_Gamer> Hello Toast!
#4664 [19:14] <Toast> Hi
#4665 [19:16] <dopeghoti> noob: explore underground; find a spiderspawning dungeon.
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#4667 [19:16] <KA_Gamer> Welcome back r0w!
#4668 [19:17] <noob> dope: been looking. no spiders means no bow. without a bow, i get killed a lot.
#4669 [19:18] <KA_Gamer> ^do you think it might be just a fluke?
#4670 [19:18] <KA_Gamer> it=no spiders
#4671 [19:18] <ItsCriminal> how can i convert my map new?
#4672 [19:18] <KA_Gamer> ^click it and click play. it'll convert
#4673 [19:19] <ItsCriminal> o.O
#4674 [19:19] <ItsCriminal> cos mcedit can open it
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#4676 [19:19] <noob> kc: that is what i am thinking. i have walked for many cycles and never seen one so it has to be a fluke is my guess. frustrating to not have a bow
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#4678 [19:19] <KA_Gamer> ^sorry about that....
#4679 [19:20] <dopeghoti> ItsCriminal: mcedit != Minecraft
#4680 [19:20] <ItsCriminal> oh i should ask somwhere else :D
#4681 [19:21] <dopeghoti> ItsCriminal: Minecraft will update the maps itself, automagically
#4682 [19:21] <dopeghoti> though if you have mods, it's been known to eat them.
#4683 [19:21] <ItsCriminal> but the it had two java errors while comvertign
#4684 [19:21] <cowsook> hi ^^ i did a 'force update' and now i all servers i try say 'outdated server software'?
#4685 [19:21] <KA_Gamer> speaking of minecraft, will a Java update affect a server i have open, or do i have to close minecraftserver.exe?
#4686 [19:21] <ItsCriminal> *converting
#4687 [19:21] <dopeghoti> cowsook: the server admins need to update.
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#4689 [19:22] <dopeghoti> KA_Gamer: you should probably close all Java apps if you're updating the system's Java bins and libs
#4690 [19:22] <noob> KA_Game: any tips / tricks on killing mobs in dungeon without a bow? cant really find any pages on it in forum. everyone just says get a bow...
#4691 [19:22] <killking72> anybody else haveing trouble when trying to sleep in a bed when it's day?
#4692 [19:22] <cowsook> dopeghoti: i thought so :o. thanks. know any servers to connect to?
#4693 [19:22] <dopeghoti> noob: poke small hole in wall, poke with sword.
#4694 [19:22] <dopeghoti> ?? smp/servers
#4695 [19:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#4696 [19:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#4697 [19:23] <noob> dope:yah i do that in my mine, but in a cavern hard to get a wall built in time
#4698 [19:23] <killking72> any way to email Mr. Notch about a bug
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#4700 [19:23] <xales> killking72: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#4701 [19:23] <dopeghoti> noob: come in from above; you get a better angle
#4702 [19:24] <dopeghoti> noob: alternatively, drown 'em in water; also from above.
#4703 [19:24] <dopeghoti> (or gravel, or sand)
#4704 [19:25] <KA_Gamer> Noob:set it on peaceful, build a wall, then turn back to monster mode.
#4705 [19:25] <Chaze007> question
#4706 [19:25] <Chaze007> in level.dat, there's the map seed
#4707 [19:25] <Chaze007> and such
#4708 [19:25] <Chaze007> can you set the spawn in there?
#4709 [19:25] <noob> dope: hadnt thought of sand. will try that. thanks much guys/gals (gals = wishful thinking...)
#4710 [19:26] <KA_Gamer> Chaze007: with mods, maybe.
#4711 [19:26] <Chaze007> I deeply miss my old map ): It was so pretty.
#4712 [19:26] <noob> KA:did not know to do that either. another good one to try - thanks again
#4713 [19:26] <dopeghoti> Chaze007: why did you kill the old onw?
#4714 [19:27] <Chaze007> accident D:
#4715 [19:27] <Chaze007> when redoing my server
#4716 [19:27] <KA_Gamer> Any time noob. ^_^
#4717 [19:27] <Chaze007> see
#4718 [19:27] <Chaze007> http://i56.tinypic.com/t5hzlf.png
#4719 [19:27] <Chaze007> lol, I have to stop doing that.
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#4721 [19:27] <sprog> hey
#4722 [19:27] <Chaze007> if I had a way I'd go back and get it.
#4723 [19:27] <KA_Gamer> hey sprog!
#4724 [19:28] <sprog> I am not really sure where else to go but on #bukkit it says cannot send message to #bukkit and I don't know where else to ask lol
#4725 [19:28] <lotto> mcadmin can work on linux ?
#4726 [19:28] <KA_Gamer> Sprog; ask what?
#4727 [19:28] <KA_Gamer> *:
#4728 [19:28] <sprog> how to fix
#4729 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> sprog irc
#4730 [19:29] <sprog> so that I can send messages
#4731 [19:29] <VoxelHead> sprog: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4732 [19:29] <VoxelHead> sprog: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4733 [19:29] <sprog> ah cool
#4734 [19:29] <sprog> thanks grey
#4735 [19:29] <Empis_Home> are there any craftbukkit for 1.3 out yet?
#4736 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> No Empis_Home
#4737 [19:29] <lotto> mcadmin can work on linux ?
#4738 [19:30] <Empis_Home> :(
#4739 [19:30] <xales> ??> lotto mods
#4740 [19:30] <VoxelHead> lotto: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#4741 [19:30] <VoxelHead> lotto: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#4742 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> We don't provide support for mcadmin here, can't tell you
#4743 [19:30] <lotto> ok ok xD
#4744 [19:32] <KA_Gamer> anyone else leaving? LOL, just kidding.
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#4750 [19:37] <KA_Gamer> Hello smellme2
#4751 [19:37] <smellme2> hello
#4752 [19:37] <smellme2> this is sprok and I cant get my registering thing to work
#4753 [19:38] <smellme2> :C
#4754 [19:38] <dopeghoti> what "registering thing" would this be?
#4755 [19:38] <smellme2> the nickserver t hing
#4756 [19:38] <smellme2> so I can talk on craftbukkit
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#4758 [19:38] <dopeghoti> ??> smellme2 irc
#4759 [19:38] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4760 [19:38] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4761 [19:38] <smellme2> oh yeah my bad
#4762 [19:38] <killking72> turns out that F1 turns off your hud
#4763 [19:38] <smellme2> thanks
#4764 [19:38] <dopeghoti> If you need further assistance with general IRC ussues, please ask in #help.
#4765 [19:38] <dopeghoti> quite welcome
#4766 [19:39] <lukegb> dopeghoti: I kinda set an onjoin message to tell everyone to join #help for help registering their nicks to talk :P
#4767 [19:39] <Empis_Home> * Added beds. If all players in a map sleeps in a bed during night, the game immediately skips until morning
#4768 [19:39] <Empis_Home> Haha awesome!
#4769 [19:39] <dopeghoti> lukegb: yes, but not everyone sees those.
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#4771 [19:39] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: except that if people sleep in beds in SMP, other clients crash
#4772 [19:39] <lukegb> dopeghoti: mmm. If they're using a stupid client, they might not.
#4773 [19:39] <dopeghoti> lukegb: indeed.
#4774 [19:39] <smellme2> damnit, #help is empty
#4775 [19:40] <lukegb> I think you can see it in mibbit, not sure.
#4776 [19:40] <dopeghoti> pity Mibbit is so [bleep]ing crummy
#4777 [19:40] <xales> smellme2: no it isn't
#4778 [19:40] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: doh :(
#4779 [19:40] <smellme2> my bad
#4780 [19:40] <xales> you join "#help."
#4781 [19:40] <smellme2> took me to help.
#4782 [19:40] <xales> try "/join #help"
#4783 [19:40] <smellme2> with a period lol
#4784 [19:40] <smellme2> yeah I got it now
#4785 [19:40] * dopeghoti stabs mibbit in the neck with a bowling ball.
#4785 [19:50] <Chaze007> servers down?
#4786 [19:51] <Empis_Home> hmm, is there a way to warp to other worlds without plugins?
#4787 [19:51] <Empis_Home> my server loads wrong world like default
#4788 [19:51] <xales> nope
#4789 [19:51] <Empis_Home> wtf
#4790 [19:51] <Empis_Home> it load another world than the one i got in server.properties
#4791 [19:51] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: you can select which world your server loads with server.properties, but the server will serve _only_ that world.
#4792 [19:52] <Empis_Home> yeah i know, but it loads another :s
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#4794 [19:53] <dopeghoti> Are you certain about that?
#4795 [19:53] <mib_ffknpi> does new update add anything new besides bug fixes and a bed.....?
#4796 [19:53] <dopeghoti> mib_ffknpi: yes.
#4797 [19:53] <dopeghoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#4798 [19:53] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: yes
#4799 [19:54] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: in server.properties i got world=SandHack and when im connecting and dies, it says nether is loading
#4800 [19:54] <Empis_Home> * level-name=SandHack
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#4802 [19:54] <KA_Gamer> Hi findow
#4803 [19:55] <findow> ey
#4804 [19:55] <findow> could i ask a question?
#4805 [19:55] <xales> ?? ask
#4806 [19:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4807 [19:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4808 [19:55] <findow> gotcha
#4809 [19:55] <findow> do i need to wait a bit after authenticating my account, because minecraft is saying i'm not a premium account yet
#4810 [19:55] <KA_Gamer> wow, you guys have a premade msg for everything.
#4811 [19:55] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: if you want a Nether world, you're looking at the wrong line of your config.
#4812 [19:56] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: fixed it, i had hello-world: true
#4813 [19:56] <Empis_Home> don't know what is does
#4814 [19:56] <findow> umm...
#4815 [19:57] <findow> my account isn't letting me play premium, but i bought the game...
#4816 [19:57] <dopeghoti> it's not 'hello'.
#4817 [19:57] <dopeghoti> look closer.
#4818 [19:57] <dopeghoti> findow: what's your account name?
#4819 [19:57] <Empis_Home> oh :D
#4820 [19:57] <findow> galactica12
#4821 [19:57] <dopeghoti> !paid galactica12
#4822 [19:57] <dopeghoti> how long ago did you buy?
#4823 [19:57] <findow> what?
#4824 [19:57] <findow> just now
#4825 [19:57] <dopeghoti> ah
#4826 [19:57] <findow> doesn't let me sign in
#4827 [19:57] <dopeghoti> it sometimes takes a couple hours to process
#4828 [19:58] <findow> oh,alright, thanks
#4829 [19:58] <findow> :D
#4830 [19:58] <dopeghoti> especially if you bought via CC and not paypal
#4831 [19:58] <dopeghoti> give it some time (:
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#4834 [19:58] <Empis_Home> hmm btw, i think the cpu-spikes are gone with 1.3 update
#4835 [19:58] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: that's good news
#4836 [19:58] <findow> appreciate the help, bye :)
#4837 [19:58] <Empis_Home> dopeghoti: yeah, its goning very smooth now
#4838 [19:58] <Auly> Hello all
#4839 [19:58] <Empis_Home> *going
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#4841 [19:59] * Auly was hoping 1.3 would make it playable in SMP and still no go.
#4841 [20:00] <Kealper> redstone is TOTALLY FUCKED with this update
#4842 [20:00] <Empis_Home> Kealper: tell ous
#4843 [20:00] <Kealper> atleast in smp it is
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#4845 [20:00] <Kealper> Empis_Home: wut
#4846 [20:00] <Auly> well at least you can connect I still can't Kealper
#4847 [20:01] <Empis_Home> Kealper: what is fucked up with it?
#4848 [20:01] <Kealper> redstone torches burn out as soon as they are given power
#4849 [20:02] <Empis_Home> doh
#4850 [20:02] <Kealper> and they don't come back after burning out, so you have to replace it
#4851 [20:02] <Empis_Home> wtf
#4852 [20:02] <Kealper> meaning every bit of redstone on my server that requires any sort of interaction with rs torches (see: 99%) no longer work
#4853 [20:03] <Empis_Home> :(
#4854 [20:03] <Empis_Home> i got a big metro system on my server, hmm
#4855 [20:03] <Kealper> and i'm a bit of a redstone nut, so if it can be powered with redstone on my server...chances are it is
#4856 [20:06] <onelin> I'm having trouble bringing my 1.2 SMP world over to 1.3 - earlier today my server crashed while it was running - any chance that corrupted my world?
#4857 [20:07] <dopeghoti> Kealper: how so?
#4858 [20:07] <Kealper> onelin: almost certainly corrupted it :/
#4859 [20:07] <Kealper> dopeghoti: care to come in to my server to see what i mean?
#4860 [20:07] <onelin> crap :(
#4861 [20:08] <dopeghoti> Kealper: sure, I can try the McClient
#4862 [20:08] <Empis_Home> i got backup-scripts that backing the world up every hour
#4863 [20:08] <Kealper> ^
#4864 [20:08] <Kealper> backups are QUICK with this new level format though
#4865 [20:08] <Kealper> melikes
#4866 [20:08] <dopeghoti> every hour? That's.. frequent.
#4867 [20:08] <Kealper> indeed
#4868 [20:08] <onelin> I only setup my server world yesterday, which means only about a 12 hour loss :D
#4869 [20:08] <Kealper> but i'm paranoid
#4870 [20:08] <Empis_Home> nah, we are playing often :)
#4871 [20:09] <onelin> Time to setup some backups right now - thanks for the quick answer
#4872 [20:09] <Empis_Home> how do u guys backing up?
#4873 [20:09] <dopeghoti> Empis_Home: rsync; tar
#4874 [20:09] <dopeghoti> (and cron)
#4875 [20:09] <Empis_Home> how often?
#4876 [20:09] <dopeghoti> bidaily
#4877 [20:10] <Kealper> i have a program called Bvckup running to create a separate mirror of my world, then i just rar that every hour for hourly backups, once a day for dailies, and once a week for the weekly
#4878 [20:10] <Empis_Home> i use the init.d minecraft-script, and modified it so it can take every hour, and doing a cron of that. and then tar and ftp remote daily
#4879 [20:10] <xales> but Kealper is a Windows noobie
#4880 [20:10] <xales> D:!
#4881 [20:10] <Empis_Home> :D
#4882 [20:10] <Kealper> psh, i'm a windows pro :P
#4883 [20:10] <dopeghoti> rar. pff.
#4884 [20:10] <Empis_Home> haha
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#4886 [20:11] <Empis_Home> Kealper: u doing it manualy?!
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#4888 [20:11] <Kealper> no
#4889 [20:11] <Empis_Home> hehe, cron are awesome
#4890 [20:11] <Kealper> i have a program that does everything for me....even clears hourly backups that are older than 24 hours old
#4891 [20:11] <Kealper> so i don't end up with like 60 gigs of backups
#4892 [20:11] <Empis_Home> yeah my daily backups are purged every backup older than a week
#4893 [20:12] <Empis_Home> have u seen some improvement of the cpu-spikes from 1.2 ?
#4894 [20:12] <Empis_Home> its much better now i think, just the client lagging :P
#4895 [20:14] <Empis_Home> hmm, lets see if i got some grahps
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#4898 [20:16] <Tumi> So is there anyone here that can point me in the right direction as far as keeping my client from crashing after the update?
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#4900 [20:17] <xales> Tumi: Can you describe the crash?
#4901 [20:17] <Tumi> After my map converted i loaded in to seeing my menu screen which was frozen, maybe 10 seconds then the client crashed.
#4902 [20:17] <Tumi> the in game menu that is.
#4903 [20:18] <xales> are you on a Mac?
#4904 [20:18] <dopeghoti> Kealper: is that a mod or a wrapper you're running.
#4905 [20:18] <Tumi> Win7
#4906 [20:18] <dopeghoti> s/\./?/
#4907 [20:18] <Tumi> vanilla client, deleted my bin before updating as well
#4908 [20:18] <xales> Tumi: are you using the new launcher?
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#4910 [20:18] <dopeghoti> (interestingly, I just used the old launcher, worked fine on my mac @ work)
#4911 [20:19] <Tumi> hmm...possibly not still using minecraft.exe as usual.
#4912 [20:19] <xales> what?
#4913 [20:19] <xales> Tumi: download the new launcher from http://minecraft.net/download.jsp if you haven't already
#4914 [20:20] <Tumi> Is it just the updated minecraft.exe on the page? If so i am using it as of yesterday.
#4915 [20:20] <xales> yes
#4916 [20:20] <xales> ok then
#4917 [20:21] <Tumi> Then i should be squared away with that
#4918 [20:21] <xales> under the "login" button
#4919 [20:21] <xales> click "options"
#4920 [20:21] <xales> then "force update"
#4921 [20:21] <xales> and try running it again
#4922 [20:22] <Tumi> Oh well....i found the issue ha. Wasnt using the launcher after all, forgot to transfer the file from my download location >_<
#4923 [20:23] <Tumi> When you said Options under login it put up a red flag :P
#4924 [20:23] <dopeghoti> Kealper: must be magic.
#4925 [20:23] <xales> red flag?
#4926 [20:23] <xales> oh
#4927 [20:23] <Kealper> totally....weird
#4928 [20:23] <xales> haha, ignore me
#4929 [20:23] <Tumi> mentally :)
#4930 [20:23] <Tumi> haha
#4931 [20:24] <Tumi> but the client still crashed, going to try to reconvert my map and force update.
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#4933 [20:24] <iDeViLxD> hello?
#4934 [20:24] <xales> hi
#4935 [20:25] <iDeViLxD> do you run a server?
#4936 [20:25] <dopeghoti> do you run a client?
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#4938 [20:25] <Kealper> do i run a client? o.o
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#4940 [20:25] <dopeghoti> Kealper: I was asking iDeViLxD
#4941 [20:26] <iDeViLxD> i just need some help setting up my minecraft server
#4942 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help
#4943 [20:26] <iDeViLxD> i coodnt chat on the mainserver
#4944 [20:26] <Kealper> yeah, now that i reread that, it looks like i was actually asking seriously, like it was directed at me....
#4945 [20:26] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#4946 [20:26] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4947 [20:26] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4948 [20:26] <iDeViLxD> i need help setting the whole thing up
#4949 [20:26] <Kealper> sarcastic comment fail i guess :/
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#4951 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> setting.. the whole thing up?
#4952 [20:27] <iDeViLxD> the whole minecraft server
#4953 [20:27] <dopeghoti> Um.
#4954 [20:27] <Sciencegeek123> could anyone tell me if its better to run a multiplayer server on a multicore/multiproc machine? or if there is anything i can do to decrease lag besides a RAMDISK?
#4955 [20:27] <dopeghoti> download the .jar, run the .jar, done and done.
#4956 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> iDeViLxD - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#4957 [20:27] <iDeViLxD> thanks guys and if theres girls :D
#4958 [20:27] <xales> Sciencegeek123: If it's lagging significantly
#4959 [20:27] <dopeghoti> Sciencegeek123: the MC server is not really multithreaded right now in a way that utilizes multiple cores
#4960 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Sciencegeek123 - Right now, minecraft doesn't have multi-threading, so multicores isn't a bonus
#4961 [20:27] <Tumi> Run the minecraft_server.exe connect to 127.0.0.1 if your on the same machine as server
#4962 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Damn ninja
#4963 [20:27] <Tumi> if on windows*
#4964 [20:28] <dopeghoti> Wachow!
#4965 [20:29] <Sciencegeek123> thx, any other tips to reduce lag?
#4966 [20:29] <xales> Sciencegeek123: if the server is lagging, the computer probably can't handle it
#4967 [20:29] <xales> though, this last update
#4968 [20:29] <xales> has been pretty bad
#4969 [20:29] <xales> with lag
#4970 [20:29] <dopeghoti> ??>> xales irc/flood
#4971 [20:29] <xales> so, wait for a fix (hopefully tomorrow)
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#4973 [20:30] <xales> dopeghoti: I'm doing like 10 different things in like 3 channels
#4974 [20:30] <xales> gtfo
#4975 [20:30] <dopeghoti> All the more reason to not press Enter constantly :p
#4976 [20:30] <Tumi> Hmm well it seems the auth server seems to be down for me, can't force update with out login!
#4977 [20:30] <Sciencegeek123> i can handle about 15 people without lag but it starts lagging aft erwards, im running it on a ramdisk and the i have a proc running at 3.4ghz so im not sure what else i can do to increase speed
#4978 [20:30] <MrHabbits> Umm. Everytime i log in it says "cannot connect to minecraft.net" any advice?
#4979 [20:30] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#4980 [20:30] <xales> MrHabbits: Can you connect in the browser, http://minecraft.net/
#4981 [20:30] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#4983 [20:31] <xales> :o
#4984 [20:31] <nevercast> hmm
#4985 [20:31] <dopeghoti> Sciencegeek123: sounds like you're hitting the cap on your upstream network connection
#4986 [20:31] <MrHabbits> Yes I can connect to the site.
#4987 [20:31] <nevercast> must be the login server again
#4988 [20:31] <nevercast> fuckin' bs
#4989 [20:31] <xales> ^
#4990 [20:31] <Tumi> minecraft.net is up but auth server is acting up
#4991 [20:31] <mr_flea> guys every time i try to connect with mirc it says remote host refused the connection what do i do
#4992 [20:31] <nevercast> mr_flea, Put in the correct address :D
#4993 [20:31] <Kealper> mr_flea: first....you go to mibbit.com
#4994 [20:31] <dopeghoti> mr_flea: keep using irssi; it's better anyhow
#4995 [20:32] <Tumi> Im on mibbit right now as well
#4996 [20:32] <Tumi> works like a charm :)
#4997 [20:32] <xales> mr_flea: Welcome to hell. Enjoy your stay!
#4998 [20:32] <Kealper> i seriously hope he was just trolling with that lol
#4999 [20:33] <xales> Kealper
#5000 [20:33] <xales> mirc
#5001 [20:33] <xales> yes
#5002 [20:33] <xales> :P
#5003 [20:33] <Tumi> lol
#5004 [20:33] <dopeghoti> 18:34 [esper] CTCP VERSION reply from mr_flea: irssi v0.8.15
#5005 [20:33] <dopeghoti> why would anyone want to change from irssi?
#5006 [20:34] <xales> ^
#5007 [20:34] <dopeghoti> oh god, rotary sawblade on metal. Getting a headache in my eye.
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#5009 [20:34] <JACKS0NATOR> Hey.
#5010 [20:35] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Hey, that stuff worked. I've got it to work! I'm having another problem though.. lol
#5011 [20:35] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#5012 [20:35] <xales> ^pwnt
#5013 [20:35] <JACKS0NATOR> Are servers down frequently right now? Because I'm getting messages saying I can't connect. as of 10 minutes ago.
#5014 [20:36] <xales> ??> _ ask
#5015 [20:36] <xales> JACKS0NATOR: They are
#5016 [20:36] <JACKS0NATOR> Oh, are they?
#5017 [20:36] <xales> ...
#5018 [20:36] <xales> I just said yes
#5019 [20:36] <JACKS0NATOR> Hmm. Is there a way to figure out a server name by the link of it?
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#5021 [20:36] <JACKS0NATOR> I was building something when it happened, and all I have is the link.
#5022 [20:36] <Kadri> Grr.
#5023 [20:36] <xales> link of it?
#5024 [20:36] <xales> what
#5025 [20:36] <Kadri> So, Minecraft is now no longer connecting to Minecraft.net properly.
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#5027 [20:37] <JACKS0NATOR> And when I put the link in to go to the server, it says that I'm ont logged n
#5028 [20:37] <JACKS0NATOR> A link of the server I was playing on.
#5029 [20:37] <Kealper> mr_flea: looks like your evil plans for world domination were foiled again!
#5030 [20:37] <nevercast> lol.
#5031 [20:37] <Kealper> i guess SinZ really is offline now :p
#5032 [20:37] <Kealper> :o*
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#5034 [20:37] <raffikz> yo
#5035 [20:37] <raffikz> can i get some quick help?
#5036 [20:37] <Kealper> sup dawg
#5037 [20:37] <raffikz> i got a gift key
#5038 [20:37] <raffikz> where do i redeem it?
#5039 [20:37] <Kealper> http://minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#5040 [20:37] <VoxelHead> Rehashing.
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#5042 [20:37] <Kealper> log in first on the account you want
#5043 [20:37] <raffikz> kthanks :)
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#5045 [20:37] <PingOfDeath> Am i the only one who cant log in?
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#5047 [20:37] <Kadri> I can't log in either.
#5048 [20:37] <JACKS0NATOR> I can log in.
#5049 [20:37] <PingOfDeath> I had this problem earlier, seems like some people can or cant.
#5050 [20:37] <JACKS0NATOR> I just can't stay logged in when I enter links of servers.
#5051 [20:37] <Kealper> holy crap i just got like 10 messages at once
#5052 [20:37] <dopeghoti> same here
#5053 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Crap, so did I
#5054 [20:37] <dopeghoti> think esper's having some pains.
#5055 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> That was fun
#5056 [20:38] <Kealper> mr_flea: stop downloading porn on the irc server@
#5057 [20:38] <Kealper> !*
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#5060 [20:39] <Kadri> Yeah, minecraft cannot connect to minecraft.net
#5061 [20:39] <Morokai> is minecraft user database down atm?
#5062 [20:39] <dopeghoti> !check minecraft.net:80
#5063 [20:39] <dopeghoti> !check minecraft.net:442
#5064 [20:39] <dopeghoti> !check minecraft.net:443
#5065 [20:39] <dopeghoti> heh.
#5066 [20:39] <Kadri> I'm starting to get very, very perturbed. I Just bought this stupid game, having this many issues right out the gate is not doing good things for my faith in this.
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#5068 [20:40] <dopeghoti> Kadri: Mojang is in the process of moving to a better host. Short version is that Amazon is a _terrible_ host.
#5069 [20:40] <Morokai> they are having overload issues right now I think
#5070 [20:40] <Morokai> you can play it offline you know
#5071 [20:40] <Kealper> Kadri: well..what issues? you really picked a bad time to buy :P
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#5073 [20:40] <jceggbert5> hai
#5074 [20:40] <relsqui> yeah, I feel lucky I was warned about it going in
#5075 [20:40] <dopeghoti> Salutations, alleged sentient.
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#5077 [20:40] <relsqui> "so that you know, this is a sucky time to start playing minecraft, the server is hammered"
#5078 [20:41] <Kealper> even moreso than normal today....as a big update was just released :/
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#5081 [20:41] <Kealper> so everybody and their brother is trying to log in at once and check out the new updates
#5082 [20:41] <Kadri> Keal: Earlier, I came to the knowledge that playing on multiplayer would be 100% impossible today, pretty much.
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#5084 [20:41] <Kadri> Now, I can't even log in.
#5085 [20:41] <Kadri> Not pleased.
#5086 [20:41] <Kealper> Kadri: oh yes.....that's a side effect of this big update :/
#5087 [20:42] <Morokai> let me back in just now
#5088 [20:42] <Morokai> try again kadri
#5089 [20:42] <relsqui> Kadri: are you unable to play single because you haven't managed to hit the auth server once yet?
#5090 [20:42] <Kealper> another side effect of the update.....the login server is just being slammed with login requests, and has been most of the day
#5091 [20:42] <Morokai> just keep jamming the login button
#5092 [20:42] <Kadri> Rel: I've hit the auth server, I can log in offline if I really want to, but the point of buying was to be able to play multiplayer.
#5093 [20:42] <Tumi> its trying, sitting at logging in
#5094 [20:42] <relsqui> yeah I'm one of the people hammering on it, I want to see if the lag issue on the server I play on has gotten any better
#5095 [20:42] <Morokai> it just worked for me
#5096 [20:42] <relsqui> Kadri: ah, yeah. I feel the same way, I just couldn't tell if that was what you meant
#5097 [20:43] <dopeghoti> Again, Kadri: Mojang is in the process of moving to a better host. Short version is that Amazon is a _terrible_ host.
#5098 [20:43] <Kadri> Dope, I caught that.
#5099 [20:43] <relsqui> Kadri: while it is generally bad thiese days, it's only *this* bad today because there was an update this morning
#5100 [20:43] <relsqui> Kadri: sorry that this was your first experience with it, but it should be at least somewhat better even tomorrow
#5101 [20:43] <dopeghoti> Even Amazon's _control panel_ for their hosting interface goes down all the time.
#5102 [20:43] <relsqui> dopeghoti: that's depressing
#5103 [20:43] <Morokai> and now, somehow, it said I wasn't using premium
#5104 [20:43] <Kadri> They could have waited a day or so to switch over to the new servers...
#5105 [20:43] <Morokai> though its possible I clicked play offline by mistake
#5106 [20:43] <relsqui> Morokai: did you pay very recently?
#5107 [20:43] <Kadri> i.e. given the new patch a moment to settle before shaking things up more.
#5108 [20:43] <Kealper> Kadri: it's not switching servers that is the issue right now
#5109 [20:43] <mr_flea> how do i use nickserv???????????????
#5110 [20:43] <Auly> Hey anyone real familier with this fix.. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=179573#wrap ??
#5111 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Aaaah, freakin skellies
#5112 [20:44] <relsqui> mr_flea: /msg nickserv help
#5113 [20:44] <Kealper> mr_flea: ._.
#5114 [20:44] <dopeghoti> Kadri: they already did one quick move (to Amazon), and it turned out not so great. They're working on making this move a good one, if not a quick one.
#5115 [20:44] <Morokai> yes, I patched
#5116 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Your server's mobs hates my guts
#5117 [20:44] <Sciencegeek123> Any recommendations on how to increase server speed?
#5118 [20:44] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: they just going at you like no tomorrwo? lol
#5119 [20:44] <Kealper> tomorrow*
#5120 [20:44] <Morokai> I was playing it until I logge doff for a min to change the folder name of my server
#5121 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Like you wouldn't believe
#5122 [20:45] <Morokai> tried to log back in, but user database appears to be down/hard to access for everyone atm
#5123 [20:45] * Auly still trying to get a stable connection in SMP
#5123 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> nearly got blown up by a creeper
#5124 [20:45] <xales> mr_flea: having fun?
#5125 [20:45] <relsqui> Auly: are you having lag issues on SMP since the update?
#5126 [20:45] <Auly> I have never been able to get it to work on this system.
#5127 [20:45] <Kadri> Still no login.
#5128 [20:45] <relsqui> ah
#5129 [20:46] <relsqui> Kadri: me neither, am still trying
#5130 [20:46] <Auly> for longer then a few minutes.
#5131 [20:46] <Kealper> [EsperNet] -!- : has identified for this nick
#5132 [20:46] <Kealper> ._.
#5133 [20:46] <relsqui> kicking myself for closing the client when I left earlier ;)
#5134 [20:46] <Auly> I was hoping the upgrade would fix that.
#5135 [20:46] <relsqui> Auly: ah, different issue than I'm having then
#5136 [20:46] <relsqui> Kealper: so he's just spamming the channel with fake help requests just in case there aren't enough real ones?
#5137 [20:46] <Kealper> relsqui: he be trollin'
#5138 [20:46] <relsqui> i.e. yes
#5139 [20:46] <relsqui> :P
#5140 [20:47] <Auly> yeah I work fine for a few minutes then to much packet loss it looks like things keep disappearing or reappearing depending on if I'm destroying or placing
#5141 [20:47] <Morokai> found a way to fill in the random missing chunks though
#5142 [20:47] <Kadri> Who's trolling exactly?
#5143 [20:47] <relsqui> other than reconnecting?
#5144 [20:47] <Morokai> for some reason putting a torch near them usually makes the chinks spawn
#5145 [20:47] <Morokai> idk why
#5146 [20:48] <Morokai> *chunks
#5147 [20:48] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#5148 [20:48] <Kealper> i should join dragonweyr and countertroll >.>
#5149 [20:48] <relsqui> Kadri: mr_flea
#5150 [20:48] <Kadri> Gotcha.
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#5152 [20:48] <relsqui> Morokai: changing the lighting forces it to redraw nearby areas
#5153 [20:48] <xales> I know what to do
#5154 [20:48] <xales> let's all ping mr_flea
#5155 [20:48] <xales> mr_flea hi!
#5156 [20:48] <xales> mr_flea hi!
#5157 [20:48] <xales> mr_flea hi!
#5158 [20:48] <xales> mr_flea hi!
#5159 [20:48] <xales> :P
#5160 [20:48] <Kealper> mr_flea!
#5161 [20:48] <relsqui> <xales> I know how to put out this fire! with a torch.
#5162 [20:48] <relsqui> >_>
#5163 [20:49] <nevercast> I think mr_flea
#5164 [20:49] <nevercast> has trouble using his client
#5165 [20:49] <nevercast> hence why he uses mirc :P
#5166 [20:49] * dopeghoti waits patiently for Glines
#5166 [20:49] <relsqui> nevercast: he doesn't.
#5167 [20:50] <relsqui> 17:49:49 [esper] CTCP VERSION reply from mr_flea: irssi v0.8.15
#5168 [20:50] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
#5169 [20:50] <relsqui> the better question is how someone dimwitted enough to troll manages to get around irssi
#5170 [20:50] <xales> he is SO BAD with mIRC
#5171 [20:50] <Tumi> So why is it that when i try to use the old 1.2 client it states user not premium? Missed the answer if someone already stated it
#5172 [20:50] <xales> that he configured his VERSION reply
#5173 [20:50] <xales> incorrectly.
#5174 [20:50] <Tumi> connecting to a 1.2 server
#5175 [20:50] <relsqui> xales: lol
#5176 [20:50] <RayeS> hmmm seems auth server is down?
#5177 [20:50] <Tumi> yes
#5178 [20:50] <relsqui> RayeS: it's just super slagged with everyone grabbing the update
#5179 [20:50] <Tumi> overloaded more likely
#5180 [20:50] * Chaze007 has left #MineCraftHelp
#5181 [20:50] <RayeS> apparently ;)
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#5184 [20:51] <relsqui> at least, I'm assuming that's what it is. if someone finds out it's actually done, lmk and I'll stop trying to connect :p
#5185 [20:51] <relsqui> down*
#5186 [20:51] <mr_flea> i saw on website where it says esper is netwrok but what does network mean???
#5187 [20:51] <agamingafro> hello
#5188 [20:51] <agamingafro> yay it works now
#5189 [20:51] <xales> mr_flea: i dont know you should ask in that channel with a d
#5190 [20:51] <Kealper> turtles.....it's turles all the way down
#5191 [20:51] <dopeghoti> network is how tuna (and dolphins) are caught.
#5192 [20:51] <xales> agamingafro: you can't talk in #minecraft I'm guessing?
#5193 [20:51] <Kealper> agamingafro: ello
#5194 [20:51] <agamingafro> ya
#5195 [20:51] <relsqui> dopeghoti: all the little bits of string keep fish from moving through. dat's how da network.
#5196 [20:51] <xales> ?? irc
#5197 [20:51] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#5198 [20:51] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#5199 [20:52] <nevercast> Lol xales
#5200 [20:52] <agamingafro> thanks
#5201 [20:52] <nevercast> god damn these frame rates suck!
#5202 [20:52] <nevercast> 1.2 gave me like 80~100fps
#5203 [20:52] <nevercast> I'm getting like, 10~20 in 1.3
#5204 [20:52] <Kealper> o.o
#5205 [20:52] <relsqui> nevercast: that sucks
#5206 [20:52] <Kealper> turn off BetterLight
#5207 [20:52] * Auly sighs
#5207 [20:53] <Morokai> I have seen a massive increase in performance since the last update
#5208 [20:53] <nevercast> Isn't betterlight meant to speed shit up?
#5209 [20:53] <relsqui> nevercast: betterlight is now part of the actual release
#5210 [20:53] <Kealper> no, it makes stuff look pretty
#5211 [20:53] <SkiingPenguins> nevercast i noticed no FPS improvements
#5212 [20:53] <Kealper> probably at a huge performance hit
#5213 [20:53] <relsqui> oh, or did you mean turn it off in the options
#5214 [20:53] <Kealper> yeah, that
#5215 [20:53] * relsqui shuts up :)
#5215 [20:53] <Morokai> server is taking half of the memory it used to in order to run as well
#5216 [20:53] <Kealper> menu > options > graphics options
#5217 [20:53] <Kealper> Morokai: that's normal :/
#5218 [20:53] <relsqui> huh, it didn't occur to me to try that when I was having issues earlier--probably not related, my fps was fine, but worth trying
#5219 [20:53] <GLaDOS> mr_flea: im trying to kill myself how du?
#5220 [20:54] <relsqui> I'll try it if I ever get back in and it's still broken :P
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#5222 [20:55] <dopeghoti> hey, guys! It's a gay guise! http://is.gd/AGWJ99
#5223 [20:55] <dopeghoti> er, hay guise
#5224 [20:55] <dopeghoti> punfail.
#5225 [20:56] <Tumi> morokai i use a quad core with 4gb of ram and the server still lags a bit with the "did the time change" error over and over
#5226 [20:56] <nevercast> Kealper, Turning off Smooth Light.. actually gave me a more consistant FPS.
#5227 [20:56] <Mogen> how do you make admins in my server
#5228 [20:56] <Kealper> \o/
#5229 [20:56] <nevercast> /spawn admin
#5230 [20:56] <nevercast> :D
#5231 [20:56] <Mogen> thanks
#5232 [20:56] <Tumi> so im pretty sure it just eneds to be streamlined is all
#5233 [20:56] <relsqui> dopeghoti: XD
#5234 [20:56] <xales> =/
#5235 [20:56] <Mogen> where do i type it
#5236 [20:56] <Kealper> these message fails are really going to own people with aubot's flood protection
#5237 [20:56] <Mogen> into
#5238 [20:57] <nevercast> Mogen, Chat.. Console.. lol... I'm trolling you
#5239 [20:57] <Mogen> what
#5240 [20:57] <nevercast> Mogen, ask Kealper..
#5241 [20:57] <Mogen> whos that
#5242 [20:57] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper what?
#5243 [20:57] <Mogen> lol
#5244 [20:57] <Mogen> uhh
#5245 [20:57] <Mogen> like
#5246 [20:57] <Kealper> o.o
#5247 [20:57] <Mogen> i use the notch server thingy
#5248 [20:57] <Mogen> kealper
#5249 [20:57] <Mogen> how do i make myself admin
#5250 [20:57] <Mogen> is op admin
#5251 [20:57] <dopeghoti> ??> Tumi normal
#5252 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Tumi: (normal) That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#5253 [20:57] <Kealper> type op user inside the server console....replace user with the username you want tlo op
#5254 [20:57] <Kealper> fail... to*
#5255 [20:58] <dopeghoti> Kealper: fail to what?
#5256 [20:58] <Tumi> Oh really? hrm ok it just seemed to only come up for me when it started to lag a bit
#5257 [20:58] <Kealper> i said tlo
#5258 [20:58] <Mogen> so operator is tecnically an admin?
#5259 [20:58] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#5260 [20:58] <dopeghoti> ??>> Mogen SMP/opyourself
#5261 [20:58] <Kealper> Tumi: how much is it saying it? like SPAMMING it or just randomly?
#5262 [20:58] <Kealper> Mogen: operator is admin
#5263 [20:58] <Mogen> k
#5264 [20:59] <Kealper> >>? asdf SMP/opyourself
#5265 [20:59] <Tumi> spamming the crap out of console when it starts to lag after several minutes of gameplay
#5266 [20:59] <Kealper> fail...lol
#5267 [20:59] <Tumi> the more lag the more it spams in frequency.
#5268 [20:59] <Kealper> Tumi: that might not be normal...
#5269 [20:59] <Tumi> i figure lol
#5270 [20:59] <dopeghoti> Tumi: pastebin the output of `uptime && free -m` (assuming a Linux server)
#5271 [21:00] <Tumi> i was running bukkit with a couple mods so i wasnt worried it -was- still playble.
#5272 [21:00] <dopeghoti> Mods _will_ cause lag as they steal CPU time away from Minecraft. As well as RAM. And they're shoehorned into the same thread.
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#5274 [21:01] <Kadri> So remind me again, what's the build for a bed now?
#5275 [21:01] <dopeghoti> three wool on three planks
#5276 [21:01] <Tumi> Oh nah i never got around to loading it up on my linux box, was running a custom windows load.
#5277 [21:01] <Kealper> wood at 123 and wool at 456
#5278 [21:01] <Kealper> to understand that, look at your numpad on your keyboard, then look at a workbench
#5279 [21:02] <relsqui> Kealper: oh, that's a nice way to describe craft recipes
#5280 [21:02] <aetherian> not everyone has a numpad
#5281 [21:02] <dopeghoti> everyone should.
#5282 [21:02] <relsqui> if you have a telephone, wool on 456, planks on 789 :P
#5283 [21:02] <aetherian> not all laptops
#5284 [21:02] <Kealper> aetherian: then they need to get a manly keyboard and stop using a girly one >.>
#5285 [21:02] <relsqui> Kealper: is there something pejorative about being female?
#5286 [21:02] <aetherian> :O
#5287 [21:02] <Morokai> I managed to figure out th ebed on my second try
#5288 [21:03] <Kadri> okay, I tried all those combinations, keal.
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#5290 [21:03] <relsqui> also: does the game care if I tell it I want to play offline, and then go to a SMP server?
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#5292 [21:03] <Kadri> Wood doesnt work,planks doesnt work, slabs dont work...
#5293 [21:03] <Morokai> expected it to be more complex than it really was
#5294 [21:03] <relsqui> i.e. I skip the first auth check and then just try to hit the multi server
#5295 [21:03] <nevercast> I was just about to ask in #minecrafthelp.. When you encounter a lot of dirt in a mine, what can you assume? That was right before I fell into a massive cave with water.. lol, question answered?
#5296 [21:03] <dopeghoti> relsqui: if you connect to an SMP server while "offline", it will kick you for not being logged in unless the server is also not in "online" mode.
#5297 [21:03] <relsqui> Kadri: just to be clear, that's a row of wool in the middle, and a row of planks across the bottom
#5298 [21:03] <Morokai> kadri, if it does not work then your game might simply not be updated.
#5299 [21:03] <Kadri> Yes, rels.
#5300 [21:03] <relsqui> dopeghoti: oh, okay. so I should back out to the launcher and keep trying to hit auth there. thank you.
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#5302 [21:04] <Kadri> Morokai, mine is at 1.3. I am in offline mode, yes, but it Is at 1.3
#5303 [21:04] <dopeghoti> nevercast: I find a lot of ores when I dig out subterranean dirt and gravel strata. Also water and magma though, so be careful
#5304 [21:04] <dopeghoti> relsqui: good luck!
#5305 [21:04] * Kealper gets on TF2 for the first time in ages
#5305 [21:04] <relsqui> dopeghoti: thanks!
#5306 [21:04] <RF> I'm getting "User not premium" Been the cast for 30 minutes now, Logged in onto :80 and it appears fine there, any ideas ?
#5307 [21:04] <synapsos> I still cant connect to minecraft.net (using new launcher)
#5308 [21:04] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#5309 [21:04] <relsqui> synapsos: the auth server is totally slagged, keep trying
#5310 [21:04] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#5311 [21:04] <dopeghoti> RF: Release Day Blues on the part of the auth server it seems.
#5312 [21:05] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#5313 [21:05] <Kadri> Oh, I think I might know what's wrong. And yes, I still can't connect to minecraft.net either.
#5314 [21:05] <synapsos> @relsqui ok
#5315 [21:05] <relsqui> Kadri: I'm curious what the problem turns out to be
#5316 [21:05] <Kadri> With the bed.
#5317 [21:05] <dopeghoti> synapsos: this isn't twitter, no '@' needed (:
#5318 [21:05] <Kadri> I'm using a Painterly pack.
#5319 [21:05] <synapsos> hehe
#5320 [21:05] <Kadri> I bet if I went back in and tried it, then clicked in the empty space, I would get something.
#5321 [21:05] <dopeghoti> Kadri: *snrk* yeah, taht'd so it.
#5322 [21:05] <GLaDOS> halp i cant ops or kick maiself
#5323 [21:05] <Tumi> RF im getting the same issue using 1.2 client with a buddies non-public server running 1.2
#5324 [21:05] <dopeghoti> also, that'd do it.
#5325 [21:05] <relsqui> dopeghoti: luckily, that *is* my twitter name, so I still parse it as me ;)
#5326 [21:05] <Kadri> i.e. old painterly pack without the new items.
#5327 [21:06] <Tumi> in offline mode
#5328 [21:06] <relsqui> Kadri: oh ha. so you were making it but it wasn't appearing?
#5329 [21:06] <aetherian> this isn't twitter o.o
#5330 [21:06] <aetherian> odd
#5331 [21:06] <relsqui> Kadri: because it had no way to appear?
#5332 [21:06] <Morokai> yeh, for some reason it dissalows local servers now
#5333 [21:06] <Morokai> I just tried it as well
#5334 [21:06] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Okay well there was some gravel just a couple blocks back.. I'll get diggin
#5335 [21:06] <dopeghoti> relsqui: the texture pack didn't have a texture for the bed or its icon
#5336 [21:06] <relsqui> right
#5337 [21:06] <dopeghoti> nevercast: worst case, you also get some flint, no? (:
#5338 [21:06] <relsqui> I'm curious if that manifests as, successful item creation, but invisible
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#5340 [21:07] * dopeghoti goes home
#5340 [21:07] <Tumi> wondering if the user not premium error is just a fix for users exploiting offline mode clients for lan servers...hrm
#5341 [21:07] <Kadri> Yes, rels.
#5342 [21:07] <relsqui> (I haven't used texture packs at all so I'm not familiar with their foibles)
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#5344 [21:07] <Kadri> Rather, it manifests visually in the game world, but not in the inventory.
#5345 [21:07] <nevercast> dopeghoti, yeah that's the truth :D
#5346 [21:07] * relsqui nods
#5346 [21:08] <relsqui> that's funny. all's well that ends well though.
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#5348 [21:08] <relsqui> I've watched a friend play with one of the HD texture packs, and it's lovely, but ... I don't need the monsters to be scarier XD
#5349 [21:08] <relsqui> I also like the square sun and moon and being able to tell directions from cobblestone
#5350 [21:08] <Kadri> Heh. I don't have the monsters at scarier.
#5351 [21:08] <miniviper> hey guises....
#5352 [21:08] * relsqui puts on a mask
#5352 [21:08] <Kadri> I have the creepers set to the "Happy happy yay yay yay" face.
#5353 [21:09] <relsqui> Kadri: honestly I'm not sure that isn't creepier XD
#5354 [21:10] <miniviper> so do i have to buy the update for minecraft or something...
#5355 [21:10] <relsqui> heh. "free gravel!" on craigslist. "sweet! I can get fli--oh. wait. real world. right."
#5356 [21:10] <xales> miniviper: no, you don't have to buy anything if you already bought it
#5357 [21:10] <miniviper> sweet...
#5358 [21:10] <miniviper> I kinda forgot lol XD
#5359 [21:10] <nevercast> dopeghoti, HOLY FUCK!! Worst case is when you run in with your shovel keen to dig up some flint.. and get jumped by a Zombie
#5360 [21:11] <Kadri> http://painterlypack.net/resources/mobs-oozes.jpg
#5361 [21:11] <Kadri> Wait. Thats wrong.
#5362 [21:11] <Kadri> Nowait, that's right.
#5363 [21:11] <relsqui> bahaha
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#5365 [21:12] <killergut> hello
#5366 [21:12] <xales> hi
#5367 [21:12] <Kadri> But yes, thats what I set to the creepers to, because they're much cuter that way when they blow you up.
#5368 [21:12] <killergut> ye im having a problem it says server is outdated
#5369 [21:13] <miniviper> hahahhaha wow... i just got on minecraft and it said... do you want to update?
#5370 [21:13] <xales> then the server you are connecting to hasn't been updated
#5371 [21:13] <relsqui> killergut: you updated your client and the server hasn't been updated yet by whoever maintains it
#5372 [21:13] <relsqui> killergut: harangue them until they do!
#5373 [21:13] <relsqui> :)
#5374 [21:13] <killergut> i maintain it
#5375 [21:13] <killergut> lol
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#5377 [21:13] <killergut> i guess ill harass myself (screw you killergut)
#5378 [21:13] <relsqui> well done.
#5379 [21:13] <Kadri> Yeah, Get on your arse until you do what you tell you to do.
#5380 [21:14] <killergut> lol
#5381 [21:14] <killergut> so what i gota do?
#5382 [21:14] <killergut> go to minecraft and download the new server?
#5383 [21:14] <relsqui> mhm
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#5385 [21:14] <relsqui> it's going to have to convert the old world files, so it'll take a little while
#5386 [21:14] <relsqui> (they changed the save format)
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#5388 [21:14] <relsqui> and it probably wouldn't be crazy to back up the old ones
#5389 [21:14] <ACsiD> someone have issue with the new luncher ?
#5390 [21:14] <miniviper> well gtg guises :D time to kill some foxs... and horses :D
#5391 [21:14] <relsqui> yeah, it ate my lunch
#5392 [21:15] <SkiingPenguins> is anyone interested in a .bat script to make minecraft "portable"
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#5394 [21:15] <Mogen> hi
#5395 [21:15] <SkiingPenguins> hello!
#5396 [21:15] <Hayden> Can some one help me
#5397 [21:15] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#5398 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> with?
#5399 [21:16] <Hayden> so my launcher sayys it cant connect but the website is up
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#5401 [21:16] <relsqui> Hayden: the auth server is slagged because of everyone logging in to get the update
#5402 [21:16] <Mogen> hey you guys know why i cant connect to the bukkit irc chat
#5403 [21:16] <relsqui> Hayden: keep trying, should get through eventually
#5404 [21:16] <Mogen> i connect and when i type it says unable to send
#5405 [21:16] <relsqui> (or try back later)
#5406 [21:16] <killergut> mmy world sucks so its converting pretty fast xD
#5407 [21:16] <relsqui> heh
#5408 [21:16] <Hayden> relsqui: my friends can get through but i cant
#5409 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Mogen - You need to register your nick
#5410 [21:16] <Mogen> what
#5411 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#5412 [21:17] <relsqui> Hayden: they apparently got through to the auth server before you did
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#5414 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> Hayden keep on trying, i had to click it a few times
#5415 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> The channel is +M, only registered nicks can talk
#5416 [21:17] <relsqui> SkiingPenguins: man, only a few? I've been trying for twenty minutes
#5417 [21:17] * relsqui looks at clock
#5417 [21:17] <relsqui> forty minutes
#5418 [21:17] <Hayden> Ok and penguis is that .bat file infected?
#5419 [21:17] <zaktt> hello i would like help with my minecraft
#5420 [21:17] <relsqui> ?? ask
#5421 [21:17] <SkiingPenguins> Hayden you can freely read and edit .bat's for yourself :)
#5422 [21:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#5423 [21:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#5424 [21:18] <zaktt> i need help my minecraft keeps crashing when i try to play single player
#5425 [21:18] * Auly hopes there is someone with a new idea.
#5425 [21:18] <Mogen> thanks dude
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#5427 [21:18] <relsqui> (I feel like a trained parrot. hope I'm being useful and not obnoxious.)
#5428 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> zaktt - What OS?
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#5430 [21:19] <Mogen> hey what os you usually play minecraft in? mac, linux or windows
#5431 [21:19] <zaktt> umm im on mac osx 10.5.8
#5432 [21:19] <relsqui> no love for bsd or unix users
#5433 [21:19] <relsqui> (I don't use either of them, I'm just being a brat)
#5434 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> That would be why, currently mac users have a bug with single player worlds crashing.
#5435 [21:19] * Auly is on windows 7 64 and when connecting to a lan server not hosted on this same machine or other SMP server after a few minutes things will either vanish if destroyed or appear if placed then I can't do anything until I reconnect restarting the cycle. Anyone got any ideas to help with this?
#5435 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to wait for a fix
#5436 [21:19] <zaktt> :L
#5437 [21:19] <zaktt> ok
#5438 [21:20] <zaktt> will i have to wait till the next update?
#5439 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> zaktt - Yes.
#5440 [21:21] <xales> there should be a bugfix update in a day or two
#5441 [21:21] <Tumi> hopefully if you made backups you can probably play offline on the old client for now
#5442 [21:21] <zaktt> oh thats a relief
#5443 [21:21] <Tumi> thats what im doing for now lol
#5444 [21:22] <Tumi> i had the same issue with the update after my map converted the client would just crash. Waiting on auth server so i can update again
#5445 [21:22] <Tumi> im using win7
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#5447 [21:23] <MrHabbits> Still cant log into minecraft
#5448 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#5449 [21:23] <relsqui> MrHabbits: yeah, the server's still overloaded >_>
#5450 [21:23] <relsqui> don't hold your breath
#5451 [21:23] * relsqui is making assumptions
#5451 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> It's been a bit better since this morning
#5452 [21:23] <relsqui> oh, has it?
#5453 [21:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#5453 [21:23] <relsqui> I got on fine this morning, a couple of times, but haven't been able to this afternoon
#5454 [21:23] <Tumi> I think the server was shutdown, it times out right away instead of hanging on loggin in
#5455 [21:24] <relsqui> it does both for me, varying
#5456 [21:24] <MrHabbits> I got to log on and get the update but that was it
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#5459 [21:25] <relsqui> yeah. I got the update, and logged in a few times while testing server lag issues
#5460 [21:25] <relsqui> went to class, came back, logged in to test some more, still no dice
#5461 [21:25] <Tumi> at least the in browser client works and updates lmao
#5462 [21:26] <relsqui> huh, that's a thought
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#5465 [21:26] <Tumi> cool, so via browser client you can still update your files if you cant login normally
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#5468 [21:26] <relsqui> connected immediately to the SMP server using the browser client
#5469 [21:26] <relsqui> Kadri: ^
#5470 [21:26] <DreamPhysix> ever since i upgraded my launcher and the update came out for 1.3, i cant login
#5471 [21:27] <Bucksatan> I am having problems logging into minecraft stand alone
#5472 [21:27] <galactica12> is the server down?
#5473 [21:27] <Tumi> buuut my client is still closing when attempting to load in-game
#5474 [21:27] <B_F_HOODRICH> hey, is there somewhere i can read up on the change to fire? Since the update all my fire is going out and it totally broke a lot of my stuff :(
#5475 [21:28] <oyog> server overload?
#5476 [21:28] <Cial> B_F_HOODRICH, logs no longer burn forever
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#5478 [21:28] <Bucksatan> logging on the game in browser works but not the stand alone
#5479 [21:28] <Tumi> oyog use the in browser client for now
#5480 [21:28] <B_F_HOODRICH> is there anything that burns forever?
#5481 [21:28] <relsqui> netherrack does, doesn't it?
#5482 [21:28] <oyog> yeah. that'll have to do.
#5483 [21:28] <galactica12> gotcha, thanks, whats the reason for the stand alone not working?
#5484 [21:28] <mr_evil> i am stuck at the Done Downloading screen >.< Any help?
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#5486 [21:28] <Cial> B_F_HOODRICH, if you go to the nether then "netherrack" will
#5487 [21:28] <Tumi> auth server for standalone is dead atm
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#5489 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> mr_evil win/reinst
#5490 [21:28] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5491 [21:28] <Bucksatan> kk ty tumi
#5492 [21:28] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#5494 [21:29] <mr_evil> i tried all that
#5495 [21:29] <Xonique> If I buy now, will I get the full game when it is stable?
#5496 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - And?
#5497 [21:29] <B_F_HOODRICH> alright, guess I'll have to figure out what netherrack is
#5498 [21:29] <Bucksatan> and mr_evil I already tried that and still dont work
#5499 [21:29] <mr_evil> and nothing, it does the same thing again
#5500 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> You're sure?
#5501 [21:29] <mr_evil> yeah
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#5503 [21:29] <Tumi> after you update via browser open your standalone and user offline mode, works i just cant load into my converted maps with out the client going boom. Will have to wait for a fix from the looks of it.
#5504 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> How about deleting the entire .minecraft folder in %appdata% (minus the saves folder
#5505 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> )
#5506 [21:29] <mr_evil> and by running minecraft do you mean go back to the website and click either In Browser|Download
#5507 [21:30] <Tumi> In browser option
#5508 [21:30] <Tumi> yes
#5509 [21:30] <mr_evil> yeah, thats what i did
#5510 [21:30] <mr_evil> blah
#5511 [21:30] <Cial> B_F_HOODRICH, when you go the nether it is the most abundant thing there its the red rock stuff you walk on
#5512 [21:30] <Tumi> should update your local files then you can user your standalone client in offline mode.
#5513 [21:30] <Xonique> If I buy now, will I get the full game when it is stable? <
#5514 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5515 [21:31] <Xonique> ah.. thanks
#5516 [21:31] <Xonique> :)
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#5518 [21:31] <relsqui> feh. well, at least now I know my server issues haven't gotten any better
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#5520 [21:32] <Fraunos> halo
#5521 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#5522 [21:32] <Fraunos> Can you help me?
#5523 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> With
#5524 [21:32] <Fraunos> I cant connect to miencraft :< I open launcher, hit login button
#5525 [21:32] <Fraunos> and it says i cant connect
#5526 [21:32] <relsqui> has anyone else been having that issue? post-update, chat and block placement/interaction are incredibly lagged in SMP, but it doesn't seem to correlate to latency
#5527 [21:32] <Fraunos> Have you got the same problem?
#5528 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes relsqui
#5529 [21:32] <mib_es0d9g> I try to launch minecraft from the launcher but it will not connect to minecraft.net it says, i can play off of the browser but i want to play from the launcher.
#5530 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Fraunos - Can you try the in-browser version?
#5531 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> See if you can log in there?
#5532 [21:33] <relsqui> Fraunos, mib_es0d9g: everyone is having that problem. the auth server is very crowded right now.
#5533 [21:33] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: any idea what's going on with it/how to get around it?
#5534 [21:33] <Fraunos> oh, ok
#5535 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> relsqui - No clue
#5536 [21:33] <killergut> how do i make a bed?
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#5539 [21:33] <Fraunos> just.. i was worried :p i connected and played some, and now i cant
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#5541 [21:33] <relsqui> killergut: row of wool in the middle, row of planks at the bottom
#5542 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> killergut http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#5543 [21:34] <Aaron> Does anyone know where the cloaks are handled now? eu.class changed
#5544 [21:34] <Idiom444> I cannot connect to minecraft.net when i loggin
#5545 [21:34] <Fraunos> and yes!
#5546 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Aaron - This isn't the channel for that, try #risucraft
#5547 [21:34] <mib_es0d9g> yeah i was able to play earlier off of the launcher but now it will not let me connect
#5548 [21:34] <Fraunos> i tried to make bed
#5549 [21:34] <Fraunos> and it didnt worked
#5550 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Fraunos - Are you running the latest 1.3 beta?
#5551 [21:34] <Fraunos> i was doing it good
#5552 [21:34] <Fraunos> yes
#5553 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#5554 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Did you follow that?
#5555 [21:34] <Fraunos> checked recipe on wiki
#5556 [21:34] <Fraunos> yup
#5557 [21:34] <Aaron> GayVulpine, what a great channel name then, and topic lol..
#5558 [21:35] <relsqui> Fraunos: are you using any texture pack?
#5559 [21:35] <Fraunos> aah
#5560 [21:35] <Fraunos> xd
#5561 [21:35] <SkiingPenguins> http://skiingpenguins.pastebin.com/0iSCVdTU <- do you likes?
#5562 [21:35] <Fraunos> :D
#5563 [21:35] <killergut> lol xD
#5564 [21:35] <relsqui> Aaron: as the topic says, this channel is for help with the base game
#5565 [21:35] <relsqui> Aaron: nothing to do with modding
#5566 [21:35] <Fraunos> didnt thought about that
#5567 [21:35] <Aaron> That is the base game, and I am not interested in modding.
#5568 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Then what do you want with cloaks?
#5569 [21:35] <Aaron> See if he has changed it since 1.2_02
#5570 [21:36] <relsqui> Aaron: how is that relevant to gameplay on a vanilla server/client?
#5571 [21:36] <Idiom444> where can i get help on logging in?
#5572 [21:36] <relsqui> Fraunos: someone else was having this issue earlier and was successfully creating the item, but it didn't show up in the inventory
#5573 [21:36] <relsqui> Fraunos: but it could still be placed and would be visible in the world
#5574 [21:36] <Fraunos> mhm
#5575 [21:36] <Fraunos> ive done it now :)
#5576 [21:36] <relsqui> Idiom444: the auth server is lagged right now, and people are having trouble connecting through the launcher. try the in-browser client.
#5577 [21:36] <Fraunos> Thanks for help :>
#5578 [21:36] <relsqui> no problem
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#5583 [21:38] <Clonez> can i get some help? im having trouble logging into the loader
#5584 [21:39] <relsqui> Clonez: everyone is having this problem. the auth server is overloaded with everyone trying to get the update. keep trying or use the in-browser client on the website.
#5585 [21:39] <Clonez> thank you.
#5586 [21:40] <Fraunos> im gonna go to sleep now. Thanks for help once more, and bye :)
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#5588 [21:42] <relsqui> huh!
#5589 [21:42] <Tumi> So is there a log i can look up or anything about issues converting old maps on the win client?
#5590 [21:42] <Tumi> new maps working fine as well. im stumped
#5591 [21:42] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: fwiw, turning down my graphics options seems to have fixed my lag issue
#5592 [21:43] <relsqui> I'm still narrowing down exactly what helps
#5593 [21:44] <relsqui> hmm. turning my draw distance to short, lighting to old, *and* limiting framerate makes it okay
#5594 [21:44] <relsqui> but none of them individually are sufficient
#5595 [21:45] <relsqui> draw distance normal also fine
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#5601 [21:51] <luxking> so i just got minecraft, and am super excited, but when i went to login it says im unable to connect... is this just me or the normal for lots of people atm?
#5602 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> unable to connect?
#5603 [21:51] <SkiingPenguins> normal right now
#5604 [21:51] <luxking> yea
#5605 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Can you try with the in-browser version?
#5606 [21:53] <luxking> it cant even load the site... :(
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#5608 [21:53] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#5609 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> I see... do you know how to ping?
#5610 [21:53] <luxking> i have heard of the term....
#5611 [21:53] <luxking> but dont know how
#5612 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#5613 [21:53] <luxking> 7 ultimate
#5614 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Can you press the Windows+R key on your keyboard, bring up the run command
#5615 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> there, you'll want to type in: cmd
#5616 [21:54] <luxking> kk
#5617 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping minecraft.net
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#5619 [21:54] <luxking> timed out
#5620 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a "Pinging Minecraft.net (xx.xx.xx.xx)
#5621 [21:54] <luxking> ya
#5622 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> What are those numbers in the ()
#5623 [21:55] <luxking> 50.16.203.217
#5624 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Huh, really. Um, okay.
#5625 [21:55] <luxking> is that a good or bad thing? lol
#5626 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Lemme check if..
#5627 [21:55] <SkiingPenguins> hrmph same thing happens for me GreyVulpine
#5628 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> That should be the right address
#5629 [21:56] <SkiingPenguins> except that the website comes up
#5630 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> luxking - You can close that command prompt now, next, I need you to..
#5631 [21:56] <luxking> the site works now ><
#5632 [21:57] * GreyVulpine blinks
#5632 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#5633 [21:57] <luxking> ill try the in browser
#5634 [21:57] <luxking> any specific IP i should enter?
#5635 [21:57] * SkiingPenguins believes it to be possessed
#5635 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#5636 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Just if you can connect and play with the in-browser version
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#5639 [21:58] <luxking> that supports multiplayer correct?
#5640 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
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#5642 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> But I'm just asking because if you can play in the in-browser version, there shouldn't be a reason why you can't also in the downloaded client
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#5644 [21:59] <relsqui> unless it's an auth problem, correct? because in-browser seems to be working well for people who can't hit auth through the launcher.
#5645 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Probably relsqui
#5646 [21:59] <cyphez> gah, minecraft has been down all day :c
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#5648 [22:00] <DreamPhysix> I can't login to MineCraft anymore :(
#5649 [22:00] <roblog> cyphez: that happens. all of the players and server admins are fighting to play. lol.
#5650 [22:00] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: that's my experience, anyway
#5651 [22:00] <roblog> DreamPhysix: try later tonight/tomorrow.
#5652 [22:00] <DreamPhysix> Is it a widespread problem?
#5653 [22:01] <Covarr> yes it is
#5654 [22:01] <roblog> DreamPhysix: yes. mc.net is having problems. it's because of the update.
#5655 [22:01] <roblog> DreamPhysix: give it time.
#5656 [22:01] <Covarr> turns out, when a new update comes out, everyone wants to play at once
#5657 [22:01] <DreamPhysix> Fair enough.
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#5659 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> For now, if you can't use the downloaded client, try the in-browser one
#5660 [22:02] <DreamPhysix> I assume that the mod I had for my server for 1.2 won't work for 1.3?
#5661 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Right DreamPhysix.
#5662 [22:02] <reedlepee> why cant i log in through the launcher? i can log in through the browser but the launcher says it cant connect
#5663 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> If you're using bukkit, they're currently testing a 1.3 release
#5664 [22:02] <roblog> And that means even if you click "play offline" and then try to use Multiplayer to connect to a server anyway, you're going to get "user not premium" errors if the server uses verification.
#5665 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Most likely, an auth server problem
#5666 [22:02] <DreamPhysix> I don't really want to turn online-mode off
#5667 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do, need to wait for the Mojang team to fix it
#5668 [22:03] <reedlepee> oh okay
#5669 [22:03] <reedlepee> so i can only play multi through the browser for now?
#5670 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5671 [22:03] <luxking> gah so much convo, cant keep up lol
#5672 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to IRC.
#5673 [22:03] <reedlepee> okay thank you
#5674 [22:03] <roblog> GreyVulpine: yeah.. I would be testing bukkit, but I'm not going to turn online-mode off. my server is up with bukkit build #421, and afaik all of my plugins loaded properly.
#5675 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> This channel only has 184 people in it.. #minecraft has nearly 700
#5676 [22:03] <DreamPhysix> thanks
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#5678 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo mib_akrv9s
#5679 [22:05] <mib_akrv9s> hey i cant connect through the launcher so i tried going offline and connecting to a server
#5680 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser version
#5681 [22:05] <mib_akrv9s> but it said like the user wasnt premium(but i bought it) and the stream ended
#5682 [22:06] <mib_akrv9s> okay ill try the browser
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#5689 [22:11] <aeyrep00155> hey i need help with my minecraft server
#5690 [22:12] <aeyrep00155> can any1 help me?
#5691 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> With
#5692 [22:12] <aeyrep00155> when ppl try to log in it times out on them
#5693 [22:12] <ItsCriminal> Is here a MCEdit channel on this server so i can ask there for help?
#5694 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so ItsCriminal
#5695 [22:12] <ItsCriminal> ok crap :P
#5696 [22:12] <cyphez> ayrep00155: is it happening to you as well?
#5697 [22:13] <aeyrep00155> i just made the server
#5698 [22:14] <aeyrep00155> is it happening to every server?
#5699 [22:14] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: if anyone else asks about the server lag issue I'm having, turning down the graphics options helped, but how much I needed to turn them down to be okay wasn't consistent
#5700 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#5701 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Turning down the graphics on the client?
#5702 [22:14] <aeyrep00155> how do i do that?
#5703 [22:15] <relsqui> yeah. I was testing in the browser client since I still haven't been able to connect through the launcher
#5704 [22:15] <relsqui> aeyrep00155: that was to me, I think
#5705 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Huh, interesting
#5706 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#5707 [22:15] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: the guy who gave me my video card things that the GPU and CPU might be the issue; gonna watch usage while playing through browser client
#5708 [22:15] <relsqui> aeyrep00155: it sounds like your friends may just be having trouble connecting to minecraft's auth server; everyone's having that issue
#5709 [22:15] <aeyrep00155> its more then just 1 person
#5710 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> aeyrep00155 - Yeah, I'd wait and hold off on trying to creating a server right now
#5711 [22:16] <relsqui> aeyrep00155: right. that's why I think so.
#5712 [22:16] <aeyrep00155> ok ty
#5713 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> The server binary's a little laggy, even more than usual
#5714 [22:16] <relsqui> aeyrep00155: when they connect to your server, they get authorized from minecraft.net, and that server's really overloaded right now
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#5716 [22:16] <Tumi> Damn! 500 Servlet Exception java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! in browser client is overrun now! XD
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#5718 [22:18] <n0valpk> anyone know why servers are running slow?
#5719 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Probably too many people connecting, and auth servers being overloaded
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#5721 [22:20] <n0valpk> like i was hosting a beta server and its laggy
#5722 [22:20] <n0valpk> anyclue when that is going to be fixed
#5723 [22:20] <HerrYuri> are you having the issue I am where the client is about 30-50 seconds behind the server lol
#5724 [22:21] <relsqui> do you guys have framerate limiting on?
#5725 [22:21] <n0valpk> everything is just slow
#5726 [22:21] <n0valpk> yea i do
#5727 [22:21] <relsqui> I'm experimenting with graphics options and that seems to be fixing it
#5728 [22:21] <n0valpk> i was running minecraft so fast yesterday
#5729 [22:21] <relsqui> try turning the graphics settings way down and see if you still get lag to the server
#5730 [22:21] <n0valpk> now its slow
#5731 [22:21] <relsqui> I'm having the same issue
#5732 [22:21] <relsqui> turn them all the way down and then gradually back up
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#5734 [22:22] <n0valpk> yea if you mess around with the distance stuff
#5735 [22:22] <n0valpk> it wont lagg for a few seconds
#5736 [22:22] <n0valpk> then it goes back
#5737 [22:22] <n0valpk> hosting a server is super lag spikes every once in a while
#5738 [22:23] <n0valpk> il try to set up torches and they remove them self and go back into my invi
#5739 [22:23] <relsqui> yeah, that's the problem I was having before
#5740 [22:23] <Kadri> Jeez. Still down.
#5741 [22:24] <relsqui> "down" is misleading, but yes
#5742 [22:24] <Kadri> Rels: Unable to connect. :P
#5743 [22:24] <relsqui> right
#5744 [22:24] <relsqui> it's *running*, just unavailable >_>
#5745 [22:24] <n0valpk> new update just messed everything up ha
#5746 [22:25] <relsqui> well, the existence of a new update created a lot more traffic
#5747 [22:25] <relsqui> it's not a bug, per se :P
#5748 [22:25] <relsqui> (there ARE bugs in the update but that's not one of them)
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#5750 [22:26] <relsqui> I wish there were a "keep trying 'til it works" option though
#5751 [22:26] <n0valpk> when are they going to fix the problems
#5752 [22:26] <HerrYuri> lol turned the smooth lighting off and got more speed but it keeps spiking from instant to 10 seconds for chat
#5753 [22:26] <relsqui> probably during work hours tomorrow?
#5754 [22:26] <HerrYuri> even though my friend in Ohio gets the chat instnatly
#5755 [22:27] <relsqui> yeah, it sounds like you're getting the same issue I did
#5756 [22:28] <relsqui> when I get tired of trying to connect through the launcher I'll log in through the website again and test a little more thoroughly
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#5758 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#5759 [22:31] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#5761 [22:32] <relsqui> at least over http it is :)
#5762 [22:32] <ItsDanzigmf> evening all
#5763 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#5764 [22:33] <ItsDanzigmf> wondering if anyone else is having connection problems since the update?
#5765 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5766 [22:33] <relsqui> ItsDanzigmf: auth server is slagged. give it time.
#5767 [22:33] <ItsDanzigmf> :'( but my castle, she waits
#5768 [22:33] <ItsDanzigmf> lol
#5769 [22:33] <ItsCriminal> i watched my friend playing the whole day ^^
#5770 [22:34] <ItsCriminal> i couldnt log into it
#5771 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Date and time?
#5772 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32325&p=566451
#5773 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> kane_hart
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#5775 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> let's see... sept 6..
#5776 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's before my time here
#5777 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Earliest logs I have are from sept 22
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#5779 [22:39] <HerrYuri> so no idea why the vanilla server is so god awful laggy xD
#5780 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> They probably just need to fix some bug
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#5782 [22:40] <relsqui> HerrYuri: some people on my server are having no problems, so I'm not sure it's on the server end
#5783 [22:41] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: lol, evasion force
#5784 [22:41] <HerrYuri> lol my server gets instant when I go underground but above ground it just goes continually into a lag spike
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#5786 [22:44] <killergut> because outside u have like the sky and stuff
#5787 [22:44] <relsqui> have we heard of anyone being able to get in to the auth server eventually after a lot of trying? I'm starting to lose faith that it IS actually up -_-
#5788 [22:44] <killergut> undergroud its not as much
#5789 [22:44] <killergut> ive been playing my multiplayer
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#5791 [22:45] <relsqui> hunh. friend of mine opened client and connect instantly
#5792 [22:45] <relsqui> I wonder if something is actually wrong.
#5793 [22:46] <xolotl> ha, 30 minutes spent debugging wtf I was getting a noticeable framerate drop in an app of mine. Conclusion? Minecraft was still open in another desktop.
#5794 [22:46] <relsqui> hehe
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#5796 [22:47] <lemon-rev> hows the login going for people to update working yet ?
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#5798 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Same as before, some are able, some aren't
#5799 [22:48] <Shadow386> urgh
#5800 [22:48] <lemon-rev> hm, ok, trying to look in tweets to see wtf going on thats grey
#5801 [22:48] <Shadow386> is there anyone else having the problem with the new launcher where you cant connect to minecraft.net? >_>
#5802 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#5803 [22:48] <Shadow386> fuuuuuuu
#5804 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser one for now
#5805 [22:48] <lemon-rev> shoadow386 theres heaps lol
#5806 [22:49] <Shadow386> I cant play in-browser, my computer hates it and lags to hell and back
#5807 [22:49] <Shadow386> oh sorry, the 'Nether' and back
#5808 [22:50] <lemon-rev> lol this is funny, i can update my files with the.net so now i can go back once i downloaded from browser the files lol
#5809 [22:50] <lemon-rev> thats funny
#5810 [22:50] <lemon-rev> so having trouble getting new update for minecraft, log into site, on to minecraft it downloads update, there you go, you have it :P
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#5812 [22:51] <ItsDanzigmf> i dont know what to do with all my free time now
#5813 [22:51] <ItsDanzigmf> do i... do i go out in public?
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#5815 [22:51] <relsqui> haha
#5816 [22:52] <IceGuest_75> anyone else having problems connecting to server (updated) and no region data loading? Im just.. falling. Other users have sad im just sitting there where i last logged out.
#5817 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, latest minecraft server's been extra laggy
#5818 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down your draw distance to test
#5819 [22:53] <relsqui> I found that framerate limiting/turning off fancy graphics and lighting also helped a lot
#5820 [22:53] <IceGuest_75> what is view bobbing?
#5821 [22:53] <arensirb> mc.net fubar atm?
#5822 [22:54] <arensirb> I cant log in
#5823 [22:54] <arensirb> been going on for 20-30 mins
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#5825 [22:54] <arensirb> oh and by the way: Developers: PLEASE move the try again button to the bottom so i stop randomly hitting offline mode
#5826 [22:54] <relsqui> arensirb: heh, yeah
#5827 [22:55] <relsqui> arensirb: that would be nice, although a "keep trying until it works" button would be better :)
#5828 [22:55] <arensirb> if try again is on top
#5829 [22:55] <arensirb> log in should be on top
#5830 [22:55] <arensirb> relsqui: Amen to that
#5831 [22:55] <arensirb> I dont udenrstand why it has to ask for my credentials TWICE
#5832 [22:55] <arensirb> when i press try gain
#5833 [22:55] <arensirb> please just TRY AGAIn
#5834 [22:55] <arensirb> dont make me push log in again after try again
#5835 [22:55] <relsqui> yeah; not a great UI choice. but I expect it'll get smoothed out
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#5837 [22:56] <nanicoar> Hai!
#5838 [22:56] <arensirb> Now its at "logging in" doing nothing
#5839 [22:56] <relsqui> there are more urgent problems with the new version than that :P
#5840 [22:56] <xales> hi
#5841 [22:56] <arensirb> relsqui: like wut?
#5842 [22:56] <relsqui> arensirb: see known bug list in the changelog on the wiki :)
#5843 [22:56] <nanicoar> I can't log in either.
#5844 [22:56] <arensirb> xales: How can i check if its on my side the problem is?
#5845 [22:56] <arensirb> anything i can try to telnet to?
#5846 [22:57] <xales> uhh
#5847 [22:57] <matthatesspam> nanicoar: Same here. Login keeps failing.
#5848 [22:57] <Kadri> It's the servers.
#5849 [22:57] <xales> what's not working?
#5850 [22:57] <arensirb> ah
#5851 [22:57] <arensirb> <AuBot> Sorry arensirb, but things look grim for 50.16.203.217, are you sure you typed it right?
#5852 [22:57] <Kadri> Rather, it's the Minecraft.net server.
#5853 [22:58] <arensirb> I guess someone is going "oh, I forgot to start that" right about now
#5854 [22:58] <arensirb> :P
#5855 [22:59] <relsqui> afaik it's up, just loaded with traffic
#5856 [22:59] <arensirb> aka down?
#5857 [22:59] <arensirb> aka "not working" ?
#5858 [22:59] <relsqui> I use "down" to mean "not connected to the internet or not functioning"
#5859 [22:59] <arensirb> But it isnt functioning
#5860 [22:59] <relsqui> whereas my impression is that it is connected, running, and overloaded
#5861 [22:59] <arensirb> I cant log in
#5862 [22:59] <relsqui> which is why I say it's up, but overloaded
#5863 [23:00] <arensirb> Then they need a better server yestarday
#5864 [23:00] <arensirb> or another
#5865 [23:00] <relsqui> no shit.
#5866 [23:00] <PcJamesy> agreed
#5867 [23:00] <relsqui> they're working on it.
#5868 [23:00] <arensirb> Imho
#5869 [23:00] <relsqui> they just haven't finished that upgrade yet.
#5870 [23:00] <arensirb> it should be prior 1
#5871 [23:00] <relsqui> it probably i.s
#5872 [23:00] <PcJamesy> is there an ETA
#5873 [23:00] <arensirb> Coding prio 2
#5874 [23:00] <relsqui> that doesn't make it instantaneous.
#5875 [23:00] <arensirb> better server prio 1
#5876 [23:00] <arensirb> relsqui: Heh
#5877 [23:00] <arensirb> If they really really needed it
#5878 [23:00] <relsqui> and the coders may as well keep coding while they're working on getting a better server :P
#5879 [23:00] <arensirb> I would recon it would be up in 1 day
#5880 [23:01] <nanicoar> Hire me and I'll fic it. :D
#5881 [23:01] <nanicoar> ~fix
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#5883 [23:01] <arensirb> relsqui: an ISP i know got a new main core router on the day
#5884 [23:01] <arensirb> Cant be that much harder to get another server
#5885 [23:01] <relsqui> .... yes, and things are exactly the same for all businesses everywhere!
#5886 [23:01] <relsqui> there are no differences in circumstance, means, or needs
#5887 [23:01] <arensirb> yes, we are talking multi-hundred-thousand router
#5888 [23:01] <relsqui> so anything easy for one should be easy for another!
#5889 [23:02] <arensirb> We are talking a small ISP
#5890 [23:02] <relsqui> believe it or not, the world's not simple, and *everyone* who has the ability to work on this problem knows more about it than you do.
#5891 [23:02] <arensirb> prob : p
#5892 [23:03] <arensirb> If I released a product that needed my users to log in, and it suddenly died id shoot myself
#5893 [23:03] <relsqui> (I have a pet peeve about this. "I'm some random guy on the internet and obviously I know better how to run X than the people running X do!" that might very, very rarely be the case, but not nearly as often as people claim it is)
#5894 [23:03] <relsqui> arensirb: yes, but that trait isn't evolutionarily sound, and thus has been weeded out in the population of game devs
#5895 [23:03] <arensirb> relsqui: It cant be that fucking hard to get a server up
#5896 [23:03] * relsqui rolls eyes
#5896 [23:04] <arensirb> If he made the login process a bitch, thats on him
#5897 [23:04] <relsqui> yeah, no one's claiming he's a great coder either XD
#5898 [23:04] <relsqui> but wtf is whining about it and talking about how much better you are gonna do?
#5899 [23:04] <arensirb> I didnt say I were any better
#5900 [23:04] <relsqui> won't bring the game up any faster, it'll just spam the help channel
#5901 [23:04] <arensirb> I just said id put it in number 1 priority
#5902 [23:04] <arensirb> mc.net has been down alot lately
#5903 [23:04] <relsqui> oh sorry, I guess that was nanicoar
#5904 [23:05] <arensirb> and i certainly recon that has made some users put it on the shelf
#5905 [23:05] <relsqui> probably, yeah.
#5906 [23:05] <arensirb> Sure, the game itself is beta
#5907 [23:05] <arensirb> But the login process cant be that hard?
#5908 [23:05] <arensirb> or complicated
#5909 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> The users wanted a signed cert with SSL
#5910 [23:05] <arensirb> i mean, when you log on a server it opens a gdammn website
#5911 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> So that's what was recently launched
#5912 [23:06] <arensirb> GreyVulpine. for that? : p
#5913 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#5914 [23:06] <arensirb> for the login procedure?
#5915 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5916 [23:06] <relsqui> yeah, that's what's in the new launcher
#5917 [23:06] <arensirb> err
#5918 [23:06] <arensirb> So basicly it checks against a website?
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#5920 [23:06] <arensirb> which then again checks again db'ss
#5921 [23:07] <relsqui> not sure what the website part has to do with anything
#5922 [23:07] <arensirb> if thats true the webmaster of mojang should officially be shot
#5923 [23:07] <relsqui> are you suggesting that the launcher does authentication over http?
#5924 [23:07] <arensirb> https
#5925 [23:07] <relsqui> because if so, you really need to shut the fuck up about how you know what you're talking about :P
#5926 [23:07] <arensirb> eh?
#5927 [23:08] <arensirb> There is no reason it shouldnt be able to auth over https
#5928 [23:08] <relsqui> hm, interesting. hit the auth server fine with the old launcher. probably because the old auth server isn't slagged *g*
#5929 [23:08] * relsqui is not too worried about anyone on her LAN sniffing packets
#5929 [23:09] <arensirb> o.O
#5930 [23:09] <arensirb> Anyway, lets say its a process running on the server opening port 1337 and listening for connections
#5931 [23:09] <arensirb> New server, start process, add ip to DNS
#5932 [23:10] <arensirb> Or you could do load balancing
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#5934 [23:11] <relsqui> hm. seem to not be getting server lag now either, but that's probably a coincidence since I tried it earlier
#5935 [23:11] <relsqui> so now it's working with all the variables I want other than still being on the old launcher
#5936 [23:12] <Breakeno> anybody using thee launcher and cant connect to minecraft.net?
#5937 [23:12] <xales> Breakeno: I believe it is down again
#5938 [23:12] <arensirb> how do you play ffrom the old launcher?
#5939 [23:12] <relsqui> Breakeno: yup. the auth server is slagged. try the website or use the old launcher.
#5940 [23:12] <relsqui> arensirb: double click it, just like the new one.
#5941 [23:12] <arensirb> then it updates to newest'
#5942 [23:12] <arensirb> and your fucked
#5943 [23:12] <relsqui> nope.
#5944 [23:12] <arensirb> to put it mildly
#5945 [23:12] <relsqui> the old launcher doesn't auto-update.
#5946 [23:12] <Breakeno> i deleted the old launcher.... FAIL!
#5947 [23:12] <arensirb> it sure did here :P
#5948 [23:13] <relsqui> really? huh. welp, doesn't for me
#5949 [23:13] <relsqui> it updates the *game*
#5950 [23:13] <relsqui> it doesn't update the *launcher*
#5951 [23:13] <arensirb> aahh
#5952 [23:13] <arensirb> Yes
#5953 [23:13] <Breakeno> old one did for me then i saw a video about the new launcher
#5954 [23:13] <arensirb> updates the game
#5955 [23:13] <arensirb> == your fucked
#5956 [23:13] <arensirb> cant log in on servers
#5957 [23:13] <relsqui> no?
#5958 [23:13] <relsqui> yes I can
#5959 [23:13] <relsqui> obviously.
#5960 [23:13] <arensirb> build 326?
#5961 [23:13] <arensirb> err
#5962 [23:13] <arensirb> nvm
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#5964 [23:14] <relsqui> :P
#5965 [23:14] <arensirb> but no
#5966 [23:14] <arensirb> you cant
#5967 [23:14] <relsqui> I *am*
#5968 [23:14] <arensirb> it will give you "wrong version" crap
#5969 [23:14] <relsqui> you can tell me it won't work all you want, I'll be in the other window playing minecraft
#5970 [23:14] <relsqui> no, it won't, because it's the new version of the *game*
#5971 [23:14] <relsqui> just the old *launcher*
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#5973 [23:14] <arensirb> Are you blown?
#5974 [23:14] <arensirb> 1.3 is the new
#5975 [23:14] <relsqui> I am playing minecraft 1.3
#5976 [23:14] <arensirb> If you try to log on a pre-1.3 server
#5977 [23:14] <ItsCriminal> lol
#5978 [23:14] <Breakeno> anybody know when its going to be fixed?
#5979 [23:14] <arensirb> it will NOT let you
#5980 [23:14] <relsqui> I started it using the old *launcher*
#5981 [23:14] <lemon-rev> wowie 1.3 is soo much quicker to load up now
#5982 [23:14] <relsqui> the server is also on 1.3
#5983 [23:15] <relsqui> there is no conflict
#5984 [23:15] <arensirb> The one we are running is not.
#5985 [23:15] <relsqui> stop using the future tense, I'm already doing it XD
#5986 [23:15] <arensirb> you running vanilla?
#5987 [23:15] <relsqui> yes.
#5988 [23:15] <arensirb> ewww
#5989 [23:15] <arensirb> : p
#5990 [23:15] <relsqui> hahaha
#5991 [23:15] <arensirb> no world protection :S
#5992 [23:15] <Breakeno> vanilla?
#5993 [23:15] <arensirb> no permissions :S
#5994 [23:15] <relsqui> yeah, I don't play with assholes
#5995 [23:15] <arensirb> no LWC :S
#5996 [23:15] <relsqui> no one has ever griefed anyone on this server
#5997 [23:15] <ssen> no players :S
#5998 [23:15] <arensirb> sure about that?
#5999 [23:15] <relsqui> yup
#6000 [23:15] <relsqui> half of them are people I see IRL regularly anyway
#6001 [23:15] <arensirb> so its open?=
#6002 [23:15] <relsqui> if they steal my shit in mc I can just punch them >_>
#6003 [23:15] <Breakeno> whats the server? :P
#6004 [23:16] <arensirb> no whitelist?
#6005 [23:16] <ItsCriminal> well if i lanuch the old launcher i can play to but porly not with the new one somehow cos it doesnt connect to auth
#6006 [23:16] <relsqui> whitelist is vanilla now
#6007 [23:16] <ssen> yesh
#6008 [23:16] <arensirb> yes, but your not using it?
#6009 [23:16] <arensirb> everyone can randomly log on?
#6010 [23:16] <relsqui> beats me, I don't run the server
#6011 [23:16] <arensirb> ok xD
#6012 [23:16] <Breakeno> lol
#6013 [23:16] <arensirb> notch needs to realise modding is here to stay
#6014 [23:17] <arensirb> if he cant beatem
#6015 [23:17] <arensirb> might aswell help them
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#6017 [23:17] <relsqui> I do believe that occurred
#6018 [23:17] <relsqui> the API hasn't been worked out yet but that's the direction it's going
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#6020 [23:17] <Breakeno> lol he doesnt care i dont think
#6021 [23:17] <arensirb> so thats why bukkit is having to decmpile shit
#6022 [23:17] <arensirb> ahaa
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#6025 [23:18] <pbnj> anyone else having trouble logging into your account in minecraft? says failed to connect to minecraft.net :/
#6026 [23:18] <arensirb> pbnj: yep
#6027 [23:18] <[NFO]Kadgar> yes
#6028 [23:18] <Breakeno> i freaking hate the youtube adds now freaking 1 minute adds
#6029 [23:18] <Breakeno> and yes
#6030 [23:18] <relsqui> pbnj: yup. everyone. try playing in your browser or using the old launcher
#6031 [23:18] <[NFO]Kadgar> i got the same thing, anyone have any update when its going to be fix?
#6032 [23:18] <ItsCriminal> Breakeno im happy on my youtube its not :D
#6033 [23:18] <pbnj> oh okie
#6034 [23:19] <Breakeno> lol ass.
#6035 [23:19] <relsqui> [NFO]Kadgar: if it's just server load it'll probably calm down in the next day or two as people get the update and buzz off
#6036 [23:19] <arensirb> next day or two
#6037 [23:19] <arensirb> haha
#6038 [23:19] <ItsCriminal> no i found out that where i live Youtube is social :D, i can whatch all videos and not one video has advertising
#6039 [23:19] <arensirb> no way i am waiting 72 hours to play this "game"
#6040 [23:19] <Breakeno> where you live?
#6041 [23:19] <ItsCriminal> Luxembourg
#6042 [23:20] <nanicoar> Crap.
#6043 [23:20] <relsqui> if there's actually an underlying bug, I'm not expecting anyone to start working on it before business hours in Sweden :P
#6044 [23:20] <nanicoar> It updated.
#6045 [23:20] <[NFO]Kadgar> relsqui, ok i see, so i have been "lucky" to be able to launch the game until it crashed heh
#6046 [23:20] <arensirb> youtube faen relsqui
#6047 [23:20] <Breakeno> i had soooooo mmmmaaaaaannnnnnnyyyyyyy iiiiiidddddeeeeaaaaasssssss tttttoooo bbuuuuiiiilllddd
#6048 [23:20] <arensirb> erru SVENSK?
#6049 [23:20] <nanicoar> I hate auto-update.
#6050 [23:20] <arensirb> vel
#6051 [23:20] <relsqui> [NFO]Kadgar: heh, no idea. I'm using the old launcher and that's working fine for me
#6052 [23:20] <[NFO]Kadgar> but is it doing the same thing for each update or is it because its being "too" popular? heh
#6053 [23:21] <relsqui> I don't think that's an "or" question
#6054 [23:21] <Breakeno> well the server im a admin on the owner doesnt come one much -.-
#6055 [23:21] <Tumi> anyone having login issues try using the old minecraft.exe pre launcher. Im able to authenticate normally on it right now.
#6056 [23:21] <relsqui> I think it does that when it updates BECAUSE it's popular
#6057 [23:21] <relsqui> but I don't know how common it is, I'm a fairly new player
#6058 [23:21] <relsqui> Tumi: yup, that's hat worked for me as well
#6059 [23:21] <[NFO]Kadgar> true
#6060 [23:21] <arensirb> Tumi: Might be, but I cant play if I do that :)
#6061 [23:21] <relsqui> Tumi: logging in through a browser also seemed to work
#6062 [23:21] <Tumi> yes it does
#6063 [23:22] <arensirb> Our server is still 1.2
#6064 [23:22] <Tumi> it uses the same .jar so you should be able to play normally
#6065 [23:22] <Breakeno> the browser dies yes
#6066 [23:22] <Breakeno> mine TO!.
#6067 [23:22] <Breakeno> i hate it
#6068 [23:22] <[NFO]Kadgar> well im glad its being popular and there is updates, at this speed we'll have a full relase soon! heh
#6069 [23:22] <arensirb> fuck .13 not being backwards compatible
#6070 [23:22] <[NFO]Kadgar> release*
#6071 [23:22] <Breakeno> lol
#6072 [23:22] <Breakeno> i dont want the full release yet
#6073 [23:23] <Breakeno> i want it to keep developing
#6074 [23:23] <Breakeno> :D
#6075 [23:23] <arensirb> Im off to watch a TS movie
#6076 [23:23] <arensirb> goddamn TS sucks
#6077 [23:23] <Breakeno> ts?
#6078 [23:23] <arensirb> Telesync
#6079 [23:23] <Breakeno> wtf is that?
#6080 [23:23] <[NFO]Kadgar> yeah im just kidding, their quite few need they might want add more
#6081 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> cam quality movies
#6082 [23:24] <arensirb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesync
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#6084 [23:24] <arensirb> A telesync (TS)[1] is a bootleg recording of a film recorded in a movie theater, often with a professional camera on a tripod in the projection booth
#6085 [23:24] <Breakeno> wow wikipedia/....
#6086 [23:24] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#6087 [23:24] <Breakeno> and cool lol
#6088 [23:25] <arensirb> Lol
#6089 [23:25] <arensirb> does this server allow unreal vhosts?
#6090 [23:25] <arensirb> How... unprofessional
#6091 [23:25] <Breakeno> vhosts?
#6092 [23:25] <arensirb> (yes, i do have thouhts about everything)
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#6094 [23:25] <arensirb> 3@org.org.org.org.org.org.org.org.org.org) has j
#6095 [23:26] <arensirb> Unless its a domain that doesnt exist..
#6096 [23:26] <arensirb> bad bad bad
#6097 [23:26] <Breakeno> i feel retarted here learning new thinks
#6098 [23:26] <arensirb> a vhost is a virtual host
#6099 [23:26] <Breakeno> tah
#6100 [23:26] <arensirb> It has several definitions
#6101 [23:26] <Breakeno> ah
#6102 [23:26] <arensirb> but one of them is used with a shell
#6103 [23:26] <Breakeno> could have figured that out >.<
#6104 [23:26] <nanicoar> ...How can Win7 take two minutes to copy 230kB?
#6105 [23:26] <relsqui> oh christ that's excatly what I didn't want to see
#6106 [23:26] <arensirb> where the isp has ALOT of IP's with resolved hosts to give you a cool hjost
#6107 [23:26] <relsqui> creeper in my lit mine
#6108 [23:27] <KAGirl1606> Hey, i need help. Since the update, i haven't been able to log in to any server
#6109 [23:27] <relsqui> no idea where it spawned, but can no longer treat this area as safe
#6110 [23:27] <arensirb> KAGirl1606: Welcome to the club
#6111 [23:27] <relsqui> KAGirl1606: the auth server is slagged, everyone's having this problem. try using the old launcher or log in through the website
#6112 [23:27] <ItsCriminal> haha :D
#6113 [23:27] <Breakeno> its cause most servers havnt been updated
#6114 [23:27] <ItsCriminal> its fun to read here
#6115 [23:27] <Breakeno> yet
#6116 [23:27] <relsqui> Breakeno: wait, what? why?
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#6119 [23:28] <arensirb> that sounded kinda wrong
#6120 [23:28] <arensirb> : p
#6121 [23:28] <Breakeno> most ppl having updated thier server to the beta 1.3
#6122 [23:28] <bombernik> Can anyone help me? When I try to log into a multiplayer server, it says my account isnt premium or that the server is outdated. Does anyone know what the problem is?
#6123 [23:28] <relsqui> bombernik: did you click "play offline" before going to SMP?
#6124 [23:29] <relsqui> bombernik: either way--you're having trouble hitting the auth server
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#6126 [23:29] <Breakeno> the server is outdated mean what i explained about that server hasnt been updated to beta 1.3
#6127 [23:29] <bombernik> Well when i try playing the normal minecraft server, it says server unavailable
#6128 [23:29] <arensirb> bombernik: Or it might be the server isnt updated uet
#6129 [23:29] <relsqui> bombernik: try using the old launcher or log in through the website. the new auth server is slagged
#6130 [23:29] <bombernik> so i tried pushing play offlife
#6131 [23:29] <bombernik> offline*
#6132 [23:29] <relsqui> arensirb: that gives a different error
#6133 [23:29] <IraAduro> so
#6134 [23:29] <relsqui> bombernik: right. now you're not getting authorized and it's giving you the premium user error instead of saying that clearly
#6135 [23:29] <arensirb> "or that the server is outdated. "
#6136 [23:29] <arensirb> No it doesnt
#6137 [23:29] <arensirb> same crap I get
#6138 [23:29] <bombernik> Ive tried both old and new server
#6139 [23:29] <arensirb> trying 1.3 on 1.2 server
#6140 [23:29] <relsqui> bombernik: not old server, old launcher
#6141 [23:29] <Breakeno> o
#6142 [23:29] <Breakeno> m
#6143 [23:29] <Breakeno> f
#6144 [23:30] <bombernik> Ive used both the new and old launcher
#6145 [23:30] <relsqui> ah
#6146 [23:30] <Breakeno> lol coulding speak for 10 seconds!
#6147 [23:30] <relsqui> bombernik: can you connect using the website
#6148 [23:30] <bombernik> yes
#6149 [23:30] <IraAduro> I just can't connect to minecraft.net with the launcher
#6150 [23:30] <Breakeno> I CAN :P
#6151 [23:30] <arensirb> relsqui: Hes trying to connect to an old server'
#6152 [23:30] <bombernik> and i can play via the web browser as well
#6153 [23:30] <nanicoar> The old launcher auto-updates, and my server needs the previous version for its plugins. I think I'm just gonna go to sleep and chalk this up as Mojan failure.
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#6155 [23:30] <mnjiman> Heeeey yooouuu guyysss
#6156 [23:30] <Breakeno> hi
#6157 [23:30] <arensirb> mnjiman: Yes there is a problem
#6158 [23:30] <IraAduro> if you have a friend with a newwer launcher and who hasn't updated
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#6160 [23:30] <IraAduro> you can get the launcher from him I think
#6161 [23:31] <arensirb> IraAduro: You still cant log in
#6162 [23:31] <arensirb> :)
#6163 [23:31] <mnjiman> arensirb, har, thanks for the past answer. thats all i needed
#6164 [23:31] <IraAduro> true the login part is a bummer
#6165 [23:31] <arensirb> Im running new launcher, old jar
#6166 [23:31] <mnjiman> fast*
#6167 [23:31] <IraAduro> but this is assuming login is fixed
#6168 [23:31] <KAGirl1606> yeah still can't get online. does any know when this is all gonna get fixed??
#6169 [23:31] <arensirb> word
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#6171 [23:31] <IraAduro> if he wants to play on an older server
#6172 [23:31] <arensirb> KAGirl1606 Sometime between now and never
#6173 [23:31] <arensirb> I guess
#6174 [23:31] <bombernik> @relqui I'm not sure if you got my message, but yes i can log into servers via the web browser
#6175 [23:31] <mnjiman> I love Notch and what he does
#6176 [23:31] <mnjiman> but if he doesnt fix the game before he leaves
#6177 [23:31] <mnjiman> im going to nerd rage
#6178 [23:32] <IraAduro> haha
#6179 [23:32] <mnjiman> NERD RAGE
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#6181 [23:32] <IraAduro> yeah I can login via web
#6182 [23:32] <nanicoar> The most terrifying kind of rage.
#6183 [23:32] <IraAduro> but then it locks up at initalize
#6184 [23:32] <arensirb> doesnt help much when you play 1.2 :P
#6185 [23:32] <KAGirl1606> thanks, you guys are so much help
#6186 [23:32] <relsqui> bombernik: fwiw, if you type rel<tab> at the start of a line you'll tab-complete my nick and it'll actually highlight me
#6187 [23:32] <KAGirl1606> jerks
#6188 [23:32] <Breakeno> ^^^^ lol
#6189 [23:32] <arensirb> :@ at autoupdate
#6190 [23:32] <IraAduro> actually, it loks up at "Done Loading"
#6191 [23:32] <arensirb> :@ at launcher not remembering you DID have a valid accounmt
#6192 [23:33] <Breakeno> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhDn1A47l0&feature=feedu
#6193 [23:33] <relsqui> arensirb: if you're getting the premium account error, you might've bypassed the first auth check (by clicking play offline) and then tried to connect to a SMP server
#6194 [23:33] <Breakeno> that a long ass video
#6195 [23:33] <relsqui> oh I just saw that the person saying that already knew that
#6196 [23:33] <relsqui> never mind
#6197 [23:33] <arensirb> relsqui: Thats my point
#6198 [23:33] <Zemedelphos> Okay, I'm not getting an answer on the forums. Is the original Minecraft.exe file supposed to still be the old launcher?
#6199 [23:33] <arensirb> its fuck having to check you every time
#6200 [23:33] <Jackson413> if you could have something mc related fixed what would it be
#6201 [23:33] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: not sure what you mean. both the new and old launchers have that filename
#6202 [23:33] <bombernik> relqui<tab> so any idea what i should do to fix my problem?
#6203 [23:33] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: can you rephrase the question?
#6204 [23:34] <relsqui> bombernik: no, I mean, start typing a nick and then hit the tab key
#6205 [23:34] <bombernik> lmao, thanks
#6206 [23:34] <relsqui> bombernik: anyway, did you say your server was on the old version still?
#6207 [23:34] <bombernik> relsqui: Well i havnt been able to log into any server
#6208 [23:34] <arensirb> relsqui: you didnt deduce that?
#6209 [23:34] <relsqui> losing track of who said what
#6210 [23:34] <Zemedelphos> I mean is the old launcher, which was and is, named Minecraft.exe still supposed to give me the old launcher, as opposed to the new one?
#6211 [23:34] <Breakeno> ^^same
#6212 [23:34] <relsqui> arensirb: not everyone who's having connection problems is on the old server
#6213 [23:35] <arensirb> From what he has said, he is trying to log on an old server
#6214 [23:35] <relsqui> as I said, I'm losing track of who said what
#6215 [23:35] <relsqui> hence asking for confirmation
#6216 [23:35] <arensirb> or that the server is outdated.
#6217 [23:35] <ItsCriminal> wooohooo loged in :D
#6218 [23:35] <bombernik> relsqui: do you have a server ip i can try to connect to, to see if it is the server?
#6219 [23:35] <arensirb> aha :)
#6220 [23:35] <relsqui> bombernik: try crafthub's; they've put up a temporary server on 1.3
#6221 [23:35] <relsqui> server.crafthub.net iirc
#6222 [23:35] <ItsCriminal> after 10hours :D
#6223 [23:35] <relsqui> ItsCriminal: nice
#6224 [23:35] <PcJamesy> hum i can login through the old desktop client but not the new one
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#6226 [23:36] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: I don't understand what you mean by "is the old launcher supposed to give me the old launcher"
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#6228 [23:36] <Breakeno> ^most ppl cant
#6229 [23:36] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: the old launcher launches whatever version of the game you have installed. so does the new one.
#6230 [23:36] <fourshot> hey i got question?
#6231 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#6232 [23:36] <Zemedelphos> Yes, I know, but wasn't it supposed to have updated to greeting me with the new layout for the launcher?
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#6234 [23:36] <fourshot> is there any way i can get my name changed on the server?
#6235 [23:36] <Zemedelphos> to be*
#6236 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> No
#6237 [23:37] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: no, if you start the old launcher it'll still behave the old way
#6238 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, nick changes aren't possible right now.
#6239 [23:37] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: you can keep both the old and new ones on the same computer
#6240 [23:37] <bombernik> relsqui: im going to try right now
#6241 [23:37] <relsqui> bombernik: best of luck
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#6243 [23:37] <fourshot> oh well that sucks
#6244 [23:37] <Breakeno> wtf is a nick change?
#6245 [23:37] <fourshot> nickname
#6246 [23:37] <arensirb> username change i guess
#6247 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Changing your minecraft username
#6248 [23:37] <relsqui> fourshot: game's in beta, some things don't work yet. :P that's what you paid for.
#6249 [23:38] <Zemedelphos> All right, I was just checking.
#6250 [23:38] <fourshot> i kno its just i was asked to change it
#6251 [23:38] <Breakeno> how can you change your minecraft name?
#6252 [23:38] <fourshot> so figured id try
#6253 [23:38] <Zemedelphos> I was hoping it would have updated itself or something, but whatever.
#6254 [23:38] <relsqui> Breakeno: you can't, that's what GreyVulpine was saying
#6255 [23:38] <Zemedelphos> You can't change yoru minecraft name.
#6256 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Breakeno - You can't, not right now
#6257 [23:38] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: nope, that's a new feature in the new launcher :P
#6258 [23:38] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: the old launcher is the last one that doesn't
#6259 [23:38] <fourshot> alright well tyvm
#6260 [23:39] <Zemedelphos> What I meant was I hoped the files, post 1.3 beta update, would have made it so that the next time I clicked "Minecraft.exe" it'd get the new launcher look. Instead, I still have to use minecraftlauncher.jar
#6261 [23:39] * relsqui blinks
#6261 [23:39] <bombernik> relsqui: it let me log in, thanks, before it wouldnt even let me log into minecraft with my user name, it was saying unable to connect, maybe something worked now that didnt before
#6262 [23:39] <Breakeno> SICK idk if i like my name it doesn't make sense
#6263 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#6264 [23:39] <relsqui> Zemedelphos: if you download the current minecraft.exe from minecraft.net and double-click that, you'll get the new launcher
#6265 [23:40] <relsqui> bombernik: might just have gotten lucky on the auth server, who knows
#6266 [23:40] <Zemedelphos> Ah, all right. I was gonna check if I could just find a way to put the .jar in my client somehow, but that works.
#6267 [23:40] * Zemedelphos cracks knuckles
#6267 [23:40] <Zemedelphos> Time for some minin'
#6268 [23:40] <relsqui> bombernik: or it might have been a version mismatch with the old server
#6269 [23:40] <Zemedelphos> Thanks, relsqui
#6270 [23:40] <relsqui> no problem.
#6271 [23:40] <bombernik> relsqui: thankyou again, heading out
#6272 [23:40] <relsqui> welcome, good luck
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#6274 [23:41] <findow> anyone know why the multiplayer server hosting is so laggy lately?
#6275 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> We don't know, just wait for an update
#6276 [23:41] <Zemedelphos> Hmm
#6277 [23:41] <Zemedelphos> I just noticed something.
#6278 [23:41] <relsqui> findow: some people are having an issue since today's update; turning down the graphics settings seems to help, at least in the short term
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#6280 [23:42] <Zemedelphos> In the "leaked" .jar, the Username and Password bars are black background, white text. The Minecraft.exe is white background, black text.
#6281 [23:42] <findow> would it help, even though i experience zero graphical lag in game, its more of a blocks disappearing, not giving me the blocks, then messing up
#6282 [23:42] <relsqui> findow: yeah, that's the same issue I was having, and playing with graphical settings did help
#6283 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> findow - I get that as well
#6284 [23:42] <findow> alright, thanks :)
#6285 [23:42] <Zemedelphos> And the need account button is on the other side of login and options
#6286 [23:42] <relsqui> I agree that it doesn't make sense that that would help
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#6288 [23:43] <findow> i'm loving how helpful this place here is, appreciate the help, i've been here 3 times today....haha
#6289 [23:43] <relsqui> the most important setting for me seemed to be keeping framerate limiting on; how much else I had to do varied
#6290 [23:44] <findow> are there any public servers i could test this on?
#6291 [23:44] <relsqui> try crafthub's--server.crafthub.net
#6292 [23:45] <relsqui> (they have a temp server up on 1.3, not their main one which is heavily modded)
#6293 [23:45] <killergut> how can i find lava easily?
#6294 [23:46] <relsqui> hmm
#6295 [23:46] <killergut> or is it possible to somehow make it(doubt that)
#6296 [23:46] <findow> alright, that server runs well, thanks for all the help, frame limiting fixed most the lag
#6297 [23:46] <relsqui> I don't see depth suggestions on the wiki
#6298 [23:46] <relsqui> findow: awesome, thanks for further data on that
#6299 [23:46] <xales> relsqui: below 16
#6300 [23:46] <relsqui> xales: thanks
#6301 [23:47] <relsqui> killergut: what xales said :)
#6302 [23:47] <relsqui> if you have a mapping tool you could also look for surface pools that way, of course
#6303 [23:47] <killergut> below 16 blocks donw?
#6304 [23:47] <killergut> ohh
#6305 [23:47] <killergut> what is that
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#6308 [23:48] <relsqui> there are some tools which look at your map files and generate an image file that lets you see the whole world at once. someone else in here can probably name one, I can't offhand :P
#6309 [23:48] <Breakeno> name one what?
#6310 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Um, there's tons on the wiki
#6311 [23:48] <relsqui> Breakeno: mc mapping tool
#6312 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_Editors
#6313 [23:48] <relsqui> thanks GreyVulpine
#6314 [23:49] <Breakeno> ty
#6315 [23:50] <Breakeno> anyone suggest one?
#6316 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> What do you want it to do?
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#6318 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Do you just need an isometric view of your world?
#6319 [23:50] <Tpimp> so
#6320 [23:51] <Tpimp> i ned help
#6321 [23:51] <Tpimp> need
#6322 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you want a real-time mapper?
#6323 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you need a google map version of your world?
#6324 [23:51] <xales> ??> Tpimp ask
#6325 [23:51] <VoxelHead> Tpimp: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#6326 [23:51] <VoxelHead> Tpimp: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#6327 [23:51] <Tpimp> .
#6328 [23:51] <Breakeno> idn
#6329 [23:51] <Tpimp> so
#6330 [23:51] <Tpimp> i need help
#6331 [23:51] <lemon-rev> greayvulpine whats this about google map version ?
#6332 [23:51] <Tpimp> finding the .Minecraft folder
#6333 [23:51] <Tpimp> but AppData doesnt work
#6334 [23:51] <Tpimp> nor does Roaming
#6335 [23:51] <Tpimp> ...
#6336 [23:51] <lemon-rev> appdata my documents tpinp
#6337 [23:51] <Tpimp> wat
#6338 [23:52] <Breakeno> is there anyway to take a creation from you single player to a server
#6339 [23:52] <lemon-rev> the appdata direcrtory
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#6341 [23:52] <relsqui> lemon-rev: we use that one on our server; I find it to be really slow/buggy but apparently it's really nice when it works
#6342 [23:52] <Breakeno> multiplayer sver*
#6343 [23:52] <lemon-rev> what os
#6344 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Breakeno - It's as simple as transferring the world folder over from your SP to SMP folder
#6345 [23:52] <lemon-rev> oh i see relsqui i thought there was like progr to get it to format so you could look into googlemaps with your world thats all
#6346 [23:52] <Breakeno> if its not your server
#6347 [23:53] <Breakeno> ?
#6348 [23:53] <Tpimp> where
#6349 [23:53] <Tpimp> what is it named under
#6350 [23:53] <relsqui> lemon-rev: er, I'm not sure if what you mean is what's correct
#6351 [23:53] <lemon-rev> pimp what os
#6352 [23:53] <Tpimp> win7
#6353 [23:53] <Tpimp> dell
#6354 [23:53] <relsqui> lemon-rev: it creates a google maps style interface you can use to browse and zoom on your world map
#6355 [23:53] * GreyVulpine pokes lemon-rev at: https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
#6355 [23:53] <lemon-rev> sweet
#6356 [23:53] <relsqui> yeah, that
#6357 [23:53] <Tpimp> -.-
#6358 [23:53] <relsqui> <_<
#6359 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> For an example, try this site: http://server.minecraft.name/map/
#6360 [23:53] <lemon-rev> relsqaui can you get that easily
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#6362 [23:54] <relsqui> lemon-rev: GreyVulpine just linked it
#6363 [23:54] <lemon-rev> doing do
#6364 [23:54] <lemon-rev> lol
#6365 [23:54] <lemon-rev> doing so *
#6366 [23:54] <trandin0> Okay, so I cannot connect to the game via client or browser
#6367 [23:54] <trandin0> and I cannot log out
#6368 [23:54] <relsqui> wait, can't log *out*?
#6369 [23:54] <relsqui> that's a new one
#6370 [23:54] <trandin0> mm hm
#6371 [23:54] <lemon-rev> pimp my documents in c: start there
#6372 [23:54] <lemon-rev> look for .minecraft but what exactly is going on with your game
#6373 [23:54] <relsqui> trandin0: er. if you can't connect to the game, what are you trying to log out of?
#6374 [23:55] <trandin0> The site
#6375 [23:55] <trandin0> I cannot log out of the site
#6376 [23:55] <relsqui> oh. what happens when you try?
#6377 [23:55] <Zemedelphos> Heh.
#6378 [23:55] <trandin0> it just loads... and loads.. and loads
#6379 [23:55] <Tpimp> omfg
#6380 [23:55] <Zemedelphos> Looks like texture pack makers are gonna have to move stuff again.
#6381 [23:55] <trandin0> until it tells me that page is not accessable
#6382 [23:55] <relsqui> (as for logging into the game: the auth server is slagged, everyone's having this problem, but you may be able to connect using the old launcher or the browser client)
#6383 [23:55] <matthatesspam> Is anyone else still not able to login?
#6384 [23:55] <trandin0> or something along those lines
#6385 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes matthatesspam.
#6386 [23:55] <relsqui> matthatesspam: yes, but the old launcher or the browser version works better
#6387 [23:55] <trandin0> The browser client updates
#6388 [23:55] <trandin0> than turns into a white screen
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#6390 [23:56] <relsqui> Tpimp: go to start -> %appdata%
#6391 [23:56] <Tpimp> yea
#6392 [23:56] <relsqui> that is, type that
#6393 [23:56] <Tpimp> doesnt work
#6394 [23:56] <killergut> how do i get it to map my world
#6395 [23:56] <matthatesspam> OK
#6396 [23:56] <matthatesspam> Thanks, fellas
#6397 [23:56] <killergut> the mapper
#6398 [23:56] <Tpimp> so i need an another idea
#6399 [23:56] <relsqui> killergut: the mapper program should have its own instructions
#6400 [23:56] <relsqui> we're not necessarily gonna know that stuff here
#6401 [23:56] <trandin0> And also I can't seem to find the old launcher, not sure where to download it
#6402 [23:56] <relsqui> Tpimp: sorry, I'm not that familiar with win7, someone may come along who is though
#6403 [23:56] <Tpimp> yh
#6404 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#6405 [23:56] <relsqui> trandin0: you can't still get it from the minecraft site afaik; a friend might still have the old version though
#6406 [23:57] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: he's having trouble finding %appdata%
#6407 [23:57] * ssen facepalms
#6407 [23:57] <trandin0> anyone have the old launcher they could email me?
#6408 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - In the search bar of your start menu, type in: %appdata%
#6409 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Do you get anything
#6410 [23:57] <xales> trandin0: no, that would be illegal. Don't ask
#6411 [23:57] <trandin0> kk
#6412 [23:57] <Tpimp> yeah, i just didnt do %appdata% the first time. ty
#6413 [23:57] <relsqui> xales: oh, is it? I didn't know that.
#6414 [23:57] <xales> relsqui: indeed
#6415 [23:57] <Tpimp> i tryed AppData etc
#6416 [23:57] <relsqui> notd.
#6417 [23:57] <relsqui> er, noted.
#6418 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what were you looking for?
#6419 [23:58] <xales> relsqui: "The one major rule - do not distribute anything I have made" <-- from minecraft.net
#6420 [23:58] <Tpimp> im trying to downgrade
#6421 [23:58] <Tpimp> to i can play on this server i lke
#6422 [23:58] <Tpimp> like
#6423 [23:58] <Breakeno> ^^lol
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#6425 [23:58] <Tpimp> so*
#6426 [23:58] <relsqui> heh
#6427 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the old files?
#6428 [23:58] <Tpimp> yes
#6429 [23:58] <Tpimp> i just needed help getting to the folder lol
#6430 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go find the ".minecraft" folder
#6431 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> It might be inside the roaming folder
#6432 [23:59] <trandin0> So do I just need to wait it out at this point? Browser version gives me a white screen... it won't load at all. And the client well, as you said everyone is unable to login it seems with that. The browser version was working earlier... in fact, I can't even play OFFLINE.
#6433 [23:59] <relsqui> trandin0: that the browser version doesn't work is odd, haven't heard of someone having that particular issue with it yet. you've got latest java and everything?