#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Trying to buffer it in the outstream
#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Out of RAM
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#5 [00:00] <jwshields> hmm
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#7 [00:01] <xolotl> jwshields: In summary, you can band-aid it by increasing your -Xmx
#8 [00:01] <Barford> Anybody got any idea weither mob traps work anymore, I'm having trouble building mine
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#12 [00:07] <|System|> Looks like a unconfigured texture pack
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#18 [00:25] <robbiet480> hai minecrafthelp
#19 [00:25] <xales> hi
#20 [00:25] <robbiet480> im having an issue w/ 10.6.6 (mac) and the latest minecraft
#21 [00:25] <xales> what issue?
#22 [00:25] <robbiet480> i talked to jens today at GDC about it who asked me to send him bug reports but was wondering if anyone had a fix
#23 [00:25] <robbiet480> it randomly crashes
#24 [00:25] <robbiet480> and yes, render distance is at short or normal
#25 [00:25] <robbiet480> graphics at fast
#26 [00:26] <robbiet480> 100% random, reproducible crash
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#28 [00:26] <xales> is there any error?
#29 [00:26] <xales> or just crash
#30 [00:26] <robbiet480> theres a mac os x crash report
#31 [00:26] <xales> can you pastebin that?
#32 [00:26] <robbiet480> sec
#33 [00:27] <robbiet480> https://gist.github.com/848659
#34 [00:28] <xales> I've seen that before
#35 [00:28] <xales> no idea how to fix it though
#36 [00:28] <robbiet480> lol
#37 [00:28] <xales> but it's graphics related
#38 [00:28] <robbiet480> jens said it might be because java on multicores with mcregion can flip the fuck out randomly
#39 [00:28] <robbiet480> they were warned by the author about that
#40 [00:29] <robbiet480> actually, i should go find him
#41 [00:29] <xales> I've seen it before 1.3
#42 [00:29] <xales> I think it's because they are using lwjgl
#43 [00:29] <robbiet480> it just started on 1.3_0.1 or 2 or whatever the latest is
#44 [00:29] <xales> a really old version
#45 [00:29] <xales> also, if you talk to Jens again
#46 [00:30] <xales> tell him for me that they should come on IRC more; there is a thing they can set so they can't recieve private messages
#47 [00:30] <xales> well
#48 [00:30] <xales> for Miclee
#49 [00:30] <xales> Miclee is the one who wants them back on here
#50 [00:30] <xales> :)
#51 [00:30] <robbiet480> jens is on IRC all the time
#52 [00:30] <robbiet480> just not in #minecraft
#53 [00:30] <robbiet480> ive talked to him before
#54 [00:31] <xales> yeah, I know the other channels he is in
#55 [00:31] <robbiet480> yarp
#56 [00:31] <xales> I'm in the semi-secret one that only Mojang/cool people they like get into
#57 [00:31] <robbiet480> lol
#58 [00:31] <robbiet480> anything to do with bukkit perchance?
#59 [00:31] <xales> (you'll never guess the name, really ._.)
#60 [00:31] <xales> nope, not at all
#61 [00:31] <robbiet480> oh i was talking about hes in the bukkit private channels
#62 [00:31] <xales> #bukkit however, has people who do stuff with bukkit :)
#63 [00:31] <robbiet480> thats where i see him
#64 [00:31] <xales> ah
#65 [00:32] <robbiet480> yeah i work on bukkit
#66 [00:32] <xales> I had no idea he had anything to do with bukkit
#67 [00:32] <robbiet480> yeah
#68 [00:32] <xales> <.<
#69 [00:32] <xales> hey lukegb
#70 [00:32] <robbiet480> big things to come in that department
#71 [00:32] <xales> get me into secret channels! :<
#72 [00:32] <robbiet480> *gasp* its a lukegb!
#73 [00:32] <xales> well
#74 [00:32] <xales> I'm in too many channels already
#75 [00:32] <robbiet480> xales: only if you are a dev/cool person we like
#76 [00:32] <robbiet480> :p
#77 [00:32] <xales> but I am :>
#78 [00:33] <xales> #help needs to be the network help channel so I don't get counted against for being in there <.<
#79 [00:33] <robbiet480> heh
#80 [00:33] <xales> I would part that because it's not that active, but I'm an op there now...soo... :<
#81 [00:34] <xales> kinda sad, most people come in there with Minecraft related stuff
#82 [00:34] <xales> ended up putting "THIS IS NOT A MINECRAFT CHANNEL" first in the topic
#83 [00:34] <xales> people still don't read it
#84 [00:34] <xales> then, this: http://scenes.at/helpgame
#85 [00:35] <robbiet480> lol
#86 [00:35] <robbiet480> i should tell notch tomorrow that they need to move mojang* to minecraftirc.com
#87 [00:35] <robbiet480> seriously
#88 [00:35] <robbiet480> like, if mojang says THIS IS OUR OFFICIAL SERVER then great
#89 [00:35] <robbiet480> and everyone will move there and we shall all be happy
#90 [00:35] <xales> we talked about doing that
#91 [00:36] <xales> it wouldn't work quite as well as you think <.<
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#93 [00:36] <robbiet480> yeah i know :p
#94 [00:36] <robbiet480> lol i was in that convo
#95 [00:36] <xales> I didn't know you were in that channel? :o
#96 [00:36] <robbiet480> at the time i was for like, half a day?
#97 [00:36] <robbiet480> lol
#98 [00:36] <robbiet480> as part of bukkit i think
#99 [00:37] <robbiet480> or maybe hey0
#100 [00:37] <robbiet480> or maybe because wedtm and i are friends
#101 [00:37] <robbiet480> iono
#102 [00:37] <xales> we didn't invite anyone in there related to that
#103 [00:37] <robbiet480> but i remember seeing that conversation
#104 [00:37] <xales> and wedtm isn't even in that channel
#105 [00:37] <xales> never has been
#106 [00:37] <robbiet480> or maybe im just imagining things
#107 [00:37] <robbiet480> OH WAIT
#108 [00:37] <xales> I think we talked about it seperately
#109 [00:37] <robbiet480> i was talking to hey0 about that
#110 [00:37] <robbiet480> thats why
#111 [00:37] <robbiet480> lol my bad
#112 [00:37] <xales> the #minecraft ops were talking about it
#113 [00:37] <xales> someone brought it up
#114 [00:37] <xales> (starting a network just for Minecraft, for whatever insane reason)
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#116 [00:38] <xales> the rest of the people in there were more...knowledgable..about IRC, and were able to explain just how much that would not work
#117 [00:38] <robbiet480> yeah
#118 [00:38] <xales> especially considering that two of the
#119 [00:38] <xales> 25 or so people in there that aren't actually opers here
#120 [00:38] <robbiet480> lol
#121 [00:39] <xales> have experience doing anything related to irc networks beyond just using them
#122 [00:40] * Kealper rawrs
#122 [00:40] <Kealper> fucking naps.
#123 [00:40] <relsqui> Kealper: overslept?
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#125 [00:41] <Kealper> xales: you made me want to make the MUD module for aubot work only in the channel it was activated in
#126 [00:41] <xales> yes
#127 [00:41] <xales> I have some use for it possible
#128 [00:41] <xales> possibly*
#129 [00:41] <AndrewPH> make aubot into a MUD client
#130 [00:41] <Kealper> relsqui: nah....went to throw on a show to watch...didn't even get though the first 10 min before i was out like a light :/
#131 [00:41] <AndrewPH> play hellMOO
#132 [00:41] <AndrewPH> horrify the local minecrafters
#133 [00:41] <Kealper> :o
#134 [00:41] <relsqui> heh
#135 [00:42] <xales> Kealper
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#137 [00:42] <relsqui> yeah, I had a friend staying here for a little while, a month or so ago--he'd spend 15 minutes picking out something to put on TV before bed and be out like a light by the first break
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#139 [00:42] <obi_wan> hello
#140 [00:42] <xales> hi
#141 [00:43] <relsqui> and I, of course, being unable to sleep with the TV on and not wanting to spend the rest of my life wondering how it ended, would watch the rest of the episode :|
#142 [00:43] <obi_wan> i am wondering how to add a toolkit to my server
#143 [00:43] <obi_wan> or mods
#144 [00:43] <xales> ??> obi_wan mods
#145 [00:43] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#146 [00:43] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#147 [00:44] <xales> look at Bukkit
#148 [00:44] <obi_wan> is toolkit a mod
#149 [00:44] <xales> ys
#150 [00:44] <xales> yes*
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#152 [00:45] <obi_wan> will someone try join my server
#153 [00:45] <obi_wan> if it works
#154 [00:45] <relsqui> you can have the bot do it :)
#155 [00:45] <obi_wan> who
#156 [00:46] <relsqui> give us the ip and I'll show you
#157 [00:49] <obi_wan> k
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#159 [00:49] <obi_wan> 114.76.43.231
#160 [00:49] <newcster2> hello?
#161 [00:50] <newcster2> umm
#162 [00:50] <newcster2> i need help
#163 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#164 [00:50] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#165 [00:50] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#166 [00:50] <relsqui> I kind of love this bot ^
#167 [00:50] <newcster2> I really want to know how to make mods for minecraft
#168 [00:50] <newcster2> like the .class files
#169 [00:50] <xales> ??> newcster2 mods
#170 [00:50] <VoxelHead> newcster2: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#171 [00:50] <obi_wan> me too
#172 [00:50] <VoxelHead> newcster2: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#173 [00:51] <newcster2> no
#174 [00:51] <xales> newcster2: if you don't know Java, you will need to learn that first.
#175 [00:51] <newcster2> i know how to install
#176 [00:51] <newcster2> i know java
#177 [00:51] <xales> again
#178 [00:51] <xales> #risucraft for that
#179 [00:51] <xales> not here.
#180 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Also, guides are here
#181 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=44768
#182 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> And at #risucraft
#183 [00:51] <obi_wan> 114.76.43.231
#184 [00:51] <newcster2> thnx
#185 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> !check 114.76.43.231
#186 [00:51] <xales> !check 114.76.43.231
#187 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#188 [00:52] <obi_wan> but you helped me
#189 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#190 [00:52] <obi_wan> and saiid it would work n00b
#191 [00:52] <obi_wan> i am n00b
#192 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Refresh my memory again
#193 [00:53] <obi_wan> from 7 hours ago
#194 [00:53] <obi_wan> helped me with server
#195 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> I wasn't here 7 hours ago
#196 [00:53] <obi_wan> setting up port forward
#197 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that still doesn't narrow it down much, there's a lot of people that pass though here looking for port forwarding help
#198 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Why don't you start from the top
#199 [00:54] <Kealper> i think i remember that name...
#200 [00:54] <Kealper> not sure under what context or how long ago though
#201 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> !seen n00b
#202 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#203 [00:55] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.311 seconds.
#204 [00:55] <xales> GreyBot: 00:55:10 [espernet] -!- n00b There was no such nickname
#205 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I turned off greybot's !seen
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#207 [01:11] <obi_wan> you anyone got the minecraft server working
#208 [01:12] <obi_wan> under the static ip
#209 [01:12] <obi_wan> 114.76.43.231
#210 [01:12] <obi_wan> but now no one can join
#211 [01:12] <relsqui> !check 114.76.43.231
#212 [01:13] <relsqui> (you can do that yourself, fwiw)
#213 [01:13] <xales> obi_wan: did you port forward correctly?
#214 [01:13] <obi_wan> but it doesnt work y
#215 [01:13] <obi_wan> yes
#216 [01:14] <obi_wan> does dns effect
#217 [01:14] <xales> what error do people get?
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#219 [01:15] <obi_wan> conection refused
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#221 [01:16] <obi_wan> or it timesout
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#223 [01:16] <xales> obi_wan: if they get connection refused then it is probably a firewall blocking it
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#226 [01:17] <obi_wan> but vipre and firewall both off
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#228 [01:18] <xales> vipre?
#229 [01:19] <ifish> Hi, xales. :)
#230 [01:19] <xales> hi
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#232 [01:21] <Kealper> xales: iirc vipre is a new av...i think i was reading about it a few months ago
#233 [01:21] <Kealper> and if that is the one i was reading about, i guess it's rather good
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#235 [01:21] <n00B> try this again
#236 [01:21] <n00B> 114.76.43.231
#237 [01:21] <n00B> bot thingy
#238 [01:22] <ifish> Ohai Kealper! :)
#239 [01:22] <Kealper> ello
#240 [01:22] <ifish> How you been?
#241 [01:22] <n00B> 114.76.43.231
#242 [01:22] <ifish> ...It hasn't been too long be oh well
#243 [01:22] <xales> n00B: you can try it yourself
#244 [01:22] <ifish> I have to restart minecraft :<
#245 [01:22] <n00B> how
#246 [01:22] <xales> just say "!check <your ip>"
#247 [01:22] <n00B> "!check <your ip>"
#248 [01:23] <ifish> ._.
#249 [01:23] <Kealper> no
#250 [01:23] <n00B> "!check <114.76.43.231>"
#251 [01:23] <Kealper> remove the quotes and < >
#252 [01:23] <ifish> !check 114.76.43.231
#253 [01:23] <n00B> !check <114.76.43.231>
#254 [01:23] <n00B> !check <114.76.43.231>
#255 [01:23] <ifish> .-.
#256 [01:23] <relsqui> no brackets
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#258 [01:24] <relsqui> you had it right back there ^
#259 [01:24] <ifish> That was me :P
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#261 [01:26] <Kealper> n00B: you are trying to check the same ip that you are using irc on, you can just type !check and it will work
#262 [01:26] <Kealper> well, your server might not work, but the bot can check it
#263 [01:27] <ifish> Oh, Kealper, good news
#264 [01:27] <Kealper> rawr?
#265 [01:27] <ifish> I got 6 people on my server today
#266 [01:27] <xales> ...
#267 [01:27] <Kealper> :O
#268 [01:27] <ifish> Without lag!
#269 [01:27] <xales> I was about to say
#270 [01:27] <xales> inb4 rawr
#271 [01:27] <xales> goddamnit
#272 [01:27] <Kealper> lol
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#274 [01:27] <ifish> Kealper, it was awesome :)
#275 [01:27] <xales> I probably spelled that wrong
#276 [01:27] <xales> is there even a way to spell it right?
#277 [01:27] <xales> <.<
#278 [01:27] <ifish> Thanls for helping me set it up guys.
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#280 [01:27] <Kealper> what, damnit?
#281 [01:28] <mib_kvkw3o> !check <114.76.43.231>
#282 [01:28] * GreyVulpine rawrs xales, before tarring and gzipping him to istanbul
#282 [01:28] <Kealper> just type !check
#283 [01:28] <xales> :o
#284 [01:28] <ifish> GreyVulpine, hai :)
#285 [01:28] <xales> istanbul
#286 [01:28] <xales> :<
#287 [01:28] <M> :< !
#288 [01:28] <mib_kvkw3o> !check
#289 [01:31] <Con> :<
#290 [01:31] <Con> :|
#291 [01:31] * ifish slaps Con around a bit with a large trout
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#292 [01:32] * Kealper slaps ifish around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#292 [01:32] <ifish> YAY
#293 [01:32] * ifish eats the trout
#293 [01:32] <Kealper> /bigslap ftw
#294 [01:32] * Con slaps Kealper around a lot with a ridiculously enormous fish
#294 [01:32] <Kealper> i should add /slap though
#295 [01:32] * ifish slaps Kealper with a diamond shovel :o
#295 [01:33] <Kealper> xales: what would it be, just $0 as the channel to send to and $1 as the "target"?
#296 [01:33] <xales> no
#297 [01:33] <ifish> Anyway, I'm sick so good night prople. :)
#298 [01:33] <xales> you can just use /alias bigslap
#299 [01:33] <ifish> Take care, Kealper, xales, GreyVulpine
#300 [01:33] <xales> to look at the current one
#301 [01:33] <xales> 01:33:43 Aliases:
#302 [01:33] <xales> 01:33:43 bigslap /me slaps $0 around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#303 [01:34] <xales> so
#304 [01:34] <xales> /alias slap /me slaps $0 around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#305 [01:34] <xales> and if you do
#306 [01:34] <xales> /slap one two
#307 [01:34] <xales> will slap one with a etc etc
#308 [01:34] <xales> and ignore two
#309 [01:34] <xales> if you used $- instead of $0 it will "slap one two around a bit" etc
#310 [01:34] <mib_kvkw3o> ill buy minecraft
#311 [01:34] <aetherian> hey
#312 [01:35] <xales> mib_kvkw3o: you are trying to run a server without buying it? ._.
#313 [01:35] <Kealper> ok so it's just zero based and uses the channel it was issued in....simple enough
#314 [01:35] <mib_kvkw3o> sick of getting banned from server or user not premium
#315 [01:35] <Kealper> mib_kvkw3o: so log in?
#316 [01:35] <Kealper> mib_kvkw3o: you did buy the game, right?
#317 [01:35] <aetherian> mib_kvkw3o: don't copy that floppy.
#318 [01:35] <mib_kvkw3o> ofcarse not
#319 [01:35] <xales> 01:34:45 < mib_kvkw3o> ill buy minecraft
#320 [01:35] <xales> ...
#321 [01:36] <Kealper> oh...not reading up ftw!
#322 [01:36] <xales> mib_kvkw3o: you realize you can't play it without buying it
#323 [01:36] <Kealper> mib_kvkw3o: so...buy the game and you
#324 [01:36] <xales> and doing so is illegal
#325 [01:36] <Kealper> fail...
#326 [01:36] <mib_kvkw3o> no it isnt
#327 [01:36] <Kealper> you'll magically be allowed on any server
#328 [01:36] <Kealper> bullshit it's not
#329 [01:36] <xales> it is actually
#330 [01:36] <mib_kvkw3o> i was allowed on before
#331 [01:36] <Kealper> explain to me how stealing a game is not illeagal?
#332 [01:36] <xales> ^
#333 [01:36] <aetherian> uhh
#334 [01:36] <Kealper> it was never allowed or condoned
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#336 [01:36] <aetherian> it's only bits
#337 [01:36] <aetherian> :)
#338 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#339 [01:37] <Kealper> aetherian: would you really want to screw your god-king out of money like that?
#340 [01:37] * GreyVulpine castrates aetherian. "It's only bits."
#340 [01:37] <mib_kvkw3o> i acceixdently downloaded it off pirate bay and lanuched it happy
#341 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#342 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> accidently.
#343 [01:37] <Kealper> that takes skill
#344 [01:37] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: Kealper: yeah, I definitely wasn't joking...
#345 [01:38] <aetherian> kinda like hitting only one pin in the bowling alley.
#346 [01:38] <aetherian> loads of skill
#347 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> I only accidently searched for a cracked version of minecraft, and accidently hit the download button. I accidently accepted the download into a directory, and accidently ran it's installer
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#349 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> So yeah officer, It's all a big misunderstanding. It was an accident I got this illegal copy
#350 [01:39] <aetherian> .-.
#351 [01:39] * aetherian slaps xales
#351 [01:39] <Kealper> anywho, brb in a sec...switching computers
#352 [01:39] <dopeghoti> "Really, officer, the knife just flew out of my hands! Yes, eighteen times!"
#353 [01:39] <Kealper> XD
#354 [01:40] <aetherian> that's only when I'm cooking...
#355 [01:40] <relsqui> cooking soylent green.
#356 [01:41] <aetherian> uhh
#357 [01:41] <Kealper> uhh?
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#359 [01:42] <aetherian> uhh.
#360 [01:42] <Kealper> pluh.
#361 [01:42] <aetherian> no.
#362 [01:42] <aetherian> uhh.
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#364 [01:42] <Kealper> If there ever was a word so absurd...
#365 [01:42] <relsqui> man I am ready to be done being sick any fucking day now
#366 [01:43] <Kealper> :<
#367 [01:43] <Kealper> vmware y u take so long to start
#368 [01:43] <xales> Kealper
#369 [01:43] <aetherian> vmware is quick for me...
#370 [01:43] <xales> any chance you ever try Arch on the real desktop?
#371 [01:44] <xales> or any Linux, even
#372 [01:44] <aetherian> hahahahaha
#373 [01:44] <aetherian> err
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#375 [01:44] <Kealper> probably not my main....i need windows on this thing....too much software that wine can't run :/
#376 [01:44] <aetherian> and if it didn't run something
#377 [01:44] <xales> you are aware of dual-booting, right? =/
#378 [01:44] <aetherian> you'd whine about it.
#379 [01:45] <aetherian> eheh. eheh.
#380 [01:45] <xales> you can run Linux and Windows on it :)
#381 [01:45] <xales> when you need Windows, restart into it
#382 [01:45] <xales> otherwise, stay booted into Linux
#383 [01:45] <Kealper> xales: ofcourse, but i really just don't want to risk screwing over my windows and losing shit
#384 [01:46] <aetherian> get another hard drive, then. (:D)
#385 [01:46] <dopeghoti> how's that a risk?
#386 [01:46] <dopeghoti> windows screws over itself.
#387 [01:46] <xales> ^
#388 [01:46] <xales> also
#389 [01:46] <Kealper> idk, i can screw over a linux pretty quick lol
#390 [01:46] <xales> just get an external drive
#391 [01:46] <xales> and use driveimage xml
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#393 [01:46] <xales> create disk image
#394 [01:46] <xales> if windows is hurt
#395 [01:46] <dopeghoti> Or ust a LiveUSBStick
#396 [01:46] <Kealper> although that ctrl+alt+number will help so much :3
#397 [01:46] <xales> just clone the drive from the image
#398 [01:46] <dopeghoti> screen is more useful than C-A-Fkey
#399 [01:47] <Kealper> yeah but i mean for when i genuinely screw something up like what i did with that arch vm
#400 [01:47] <dopeghoti> (easier to copy and paste between screen terminals)
#401 [01:47] <dopeghoti> true
#402 [01:47] <xales> that's hardly genuinely screwing stuff up
#403 [01:48] <xales> oh, dopeghoti, explain tilda to Kealper
#404 [01:48] <Kealper> for me it is
#405 [01:48] <xales> he will love that
#406 [01:48] <Kealper> tilde*
#407 [01:48] <xales> no
#408 [01:48] <xales> tilda
#409 [01:48] <xales> :)
#410 [01:48] <Kealper> tilda?
#411 [01:48] <Kealper> what is this witchcraft?
#412 [01:48] <xales> tilda.
#413 [01:48] <xales> let dopeghoti explain
#414 [01:48] <xales> he's probably typing something obscenely long about it right now
#415 [01:49] <xales> fine
#416 [01:49] <xales> I'll explain it
#417 [01:49] <xales> Kealper, you are familiar with the sliding-down-from-top-of-screen consoles in games like Quake?
#418 [01:50] <Kealper> yeah
#419 [01:50] <xales> well
#420 [01:50] <xales> it's just like that
#421 [01:50] <dopeghoti> tilda, tl;dr version: instant command prompt; just add hotkey
#422 [01:50] <xales> but it's a shell
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#424 [01:50] <relsqui> tilde* :P
#425 [01:50] <Kealper> i totally made a thing like that forwindows
#426 [01:50] <xales> relsqui: tilda is the software; tilde is the character
#427 [01:50] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda_%28software%29
#428 [01:50] <relsqui> oh, I thought that's what we were talking about
#429 [01:50] <relsqui> my bad
#430 [01:50] <xales> :P
#431 [01:50] <Kealper> same relsqui lol
#432 [01:51] <relsqui> I should probably read over this paper at least once before printing it to turn in, shouldn't I
#433 [01:51] <Kealper> i should remake it more cooler though
#434 [01:51] <xales> relsqui: probably a good idea
#435 [01:51] <Kealper> have it semi-transparent and whatnot
#436 [01:51] <xales> Kealper: http://darksigns.net/xales/arch2.jpg
#437 [01:52] <xales> that's my Gnome setup
#438 [01:52] <Kealper> and ctrl+alt+1 is not working on SLiM
#439 [01:52] <xales> I can walk you through setting it up exactly like that tomorrow
#440 [01:52] <relsqui> hehe
#441 [01:52] <xales> Kealper: control-alt-F1
#442 [01:52] <xales> not 1
#443 [01:52] <Kealper> oh..derp
#444 [01:52] <xales> if you want me to set it up like that so you have something to work from, let me know
#445 [01:52] <xales> or, walk you through setting it up
#446 [01:53] <Kealper> O.o
#447 [01:53] <xales> or, if you feel like setting up openvpn, I could VNC in and do it for you :P
#448 [01:53] <xales> though I think openvpn would be a bitch in a VM
#449 [01:53] <Kealper> lol
#450 [01:53] <Kealper> i wish i could get bridged networking to work
#451 [01:53] <Kealper> i have to use nat :<
#452 [01:53] <xales> just install it on your desktop ._.
#453 [01:54] <xales> back stuff up
#454 [01:54] <Kealper> i'll be putting it on a real computer tomorrow
#455 [01:54] <xales> if it goes wrong, just reinstall windows
#456 [01:54] <xales> windows can always do with a reinstall
#457 [01:54] <xales> always makes it faster
#458 [01:54] <xales> always
#459 [01:54] <dopeghoti> http://i.imgur.com/ZXocU.jpg <-- tilda in action
#460 [01:54] <Kealper> sheesh your second monitor is massive
#461 [01:55] <dopeghoti> I have no idea what you're talking about (:
#462 [01:55] <Kealper> >.>
#463 [01:55] <Kealper> lol
#464 [01:55] <dopeghoti> it's only 1920x1080
#465 [01:55] <Kealper> *only* lol
#466 [01:56] <dopeghoti> the other is a mere 1680x1050
#467 [01:56] <xales> I have one monitor
#468 [01:56] <xales> 1440x900
#469 [01:56] <xales> both of you can die now
#470 [01:56] <dopeghoti> how can you manage with only 900 vertical pixels?
#471 [01:57] <xales> ._.
#472 [01:57] <M> ._.
#473 [01:57] <dopeghoti> I didn't get an LCD until they could give me more real estate than my old 1280x1024 CRT
#474 [01:57] * relsqui grins
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#475 [01:57] <Kealper> i have a 1440x900 primary and a 1024x768 secondary irc monitor
#476 [01:57] <relsqui> my netbook runs 1024x600
#477 [01:57] <xales> part of the problem is that I have to buy a new desk too
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#479 [01:57] <dopeghoti> relsqui: so do I, and I can't stand it
#480 [01:57] <xales> current desk is too small for a larger monitor to fit in
#481 [01:57] <Kealper> xales: make one :P
#482 [01:57] <relsqui> its graphics card can support higher resolution
#483 [01:57] <relsqui> its monitor cannot
#484 [01:57] <xales> Kealper: I lack time, and funding
#485 [01:57] <dopeghoti> relsqui: eee?
#486 [01:57] <relsqui> aye
#487 [01:57] <Kealper> dopeghoti: any netbook
#488 [01:58] <relsqui> for a second I thought you were just excited
#489 [01:58] <relsqui> but yes
#490 [01:58] <dopeghoti> heh
#491 [01:58] <Kealper> like all of them are 1024x600 :/
#492 [01:58] <dopeghoti> I got one for $100 at a sale a couple years ago
#493 [01:58] <xales> dopeghoti: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_130608.jpg
#494 [01:58] <xales> err
#495 [01:58] <xales> probably a fail link
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#497 [01:58] <xales> <.<
#498 [01:58] <aetherian> meh, I only have 1680*1050 on my laptop =\
#499 [01:58] <dopeghoti> nice enough for the price, but the keyboard hates my stubby fingers
#500 [01:58] <relsqui> man, my local craigslist free has desks all the time
#501 [01:59] <dopeghoti> wow, xales, that's one blurry screen
#502 [01:59] <xales> dopeghoti: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_130608.jpg
#503 [01:59] <xales> that one
#504 [01:59] <relsqui> but I live in an attic up a narrow stair, getting one up here would be ridiculous
#505 [01:59] <Kealper> and ctrl-alt-F1 does nothing
#506 [01:59] <relsqui> xales: your screen looks kinda like mine, but more colorful
#507 [01:59] <relsqui> also there's a terminal on more of it
#508 [01:59] <xales> Kealper: O_o
#509 [01:59] <dopeghoti> Kealper: left-C-A-F1. and if that does nothing, try F2.
#510 [01:59] <xales> relsqui: I was booted into windows for that
#511 [01:59] <xales> nothing else to run but PuTTY
#512 [01:59] <dopeghoti> heh
#513 [01:59] <xales> :)
#514 [01:59] <Kealper> i'm a lefty, so i was already using left alt...and i tried F2 aswell
#515 [02:00] <dopeghoti> !left-handed people unite
#516 [02:00] <xales> Kealper: the VM has input focus..right?
#517 [02:00] <xales> also
#518 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Bah, 1 and 2 tick clocks are too fast for dispensers
#519 [02:00] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#519 [02:00] <xales> virtualbox is probably nomming your keystroke
#520 [02:00] <dopeghoti> check your VM manager for "send key combo to VM"
#521 [02:00] <xales> because control-alt-f11 is fullscreen or something
#522 [02:00] <Kealper> vmware
#523 [02:00] <Kealper> and it's not
#524 [02:00] <dopeghoti> I know VirtualBox has that
#525 [02:01] <dopeghoti> VMWare has similar
#526 [02:01] <dopeghoti> you have to tell it to send C-A-Fkeys
#527 [02:01] <dopeghoti> C-A is VMWare-ese for "Give the host back the mouse and keyboard please"
#528 [02:01] <xales> is windows really that dumb
#529 [02:01] <xales> oh
#530 [02:01] <xales> I thought Windows would just munch your F-key
#531 [02:01] <xales> but I realized probably not
#532 [02:01] <Kealper> yeah, ctrl-alt will if you release it, but if you don't it passes the whole shortcut though
#533 [02:01] <dopeghoti> no, it's just VMWare being an ass
#534 [02:01] * xales should go to bed soon
#534 [02:02] * xales should
#534 [02:02] * xales probably won't
#534 [02:02] <dopeghoti> Fun is using VMWare consoles though RDP via VNC
#535 [02:02] <Kealper> i can't send a ctrl-alt-fkey
#536 [02:02] <lukegb> Ohai
#537 [02:02] * dopeghoti shudders
#537 [02:02] <Kealper> o.o
#538 [02:02] <Kealper> I N C E P T I O N
#539 [02:03] <dopeghoti> oh, yes. All through two layers of NAT and a VPN
#540 [02:03] <dopeghoti> It's super-effective!
#541 [02:03] <Kealper> lol
#542 [02:03] <xales> lukegb
#543 [02:03] <xales> i can have secret jeb channel access
#544 [02:03] <xales> :)
#545 [02:03] <lukegb> Nou
#546 [02:03] <xales> yesme
#547 [02:03] <lukegb> Just find out when he's on and stalk him.
#548 [02:03] <xales> I know when he is on <.<
#549 [02:04] <relsqui> this is weird. almost everything I'm editing in this paper is prepositions
#550 [02:04] <xales> #<even more special channel you aren't in>
#551 [02:04] <relsqui> apparently I use the wrong prepositions when I'm tired
#552 [02:04] <xales> relsqui: I do worse things
#553 [02:04] <xales> like
#554 [02:04] <xales> using
#555 [02:04] <xales> enter
#556 [02:04] <xales> a
#557 [02:04] <xales> s
#558 [02:04] <xales> a
#559 [02:04] <xales> comman
#560 [02:04] <xales> comma
#561 [02:04] <xales> and failing at that
#562 [02:04] <xales> D:
#563 [02:04] <relsqui> as opposed to an extraordinary comma
#564 [02:04] <xales> :P
#565 [02:05] <Kealper> extraordinary, comma?, what is, that?
#566 [02:05] <xales> hey lukegb
#567 [02:05] <xales> I found some stuff
#568 [02:05] <xales> secret stuff
#569 [02:05] <xales> Serious Bukkit (plugin) development channel for serious Bukkit (plugin) development. | http://javadoc.lukegb.com - now with classical (javadoc) goodness! | Please change all "*.bukkit" namespaces - http://bit.ly/eqHWZw
#570 [02:05] <xales> TOPIC!
#571 [02:05] <xales> >:D
#572 [02:05] <lukegb> Yeahno.
#573 [02:05] <xales> wrong channel?
#574 [02:06] <Kealper> lol
#575 [02:06] <Kealper> close, but no cigar!
#576 [02:06] <lukegb> #bukkitdev isn't secret
#577 [02:06] <xales> :<
#578 [02:06] <M> :< !
#579 [02:06] <xales> lukegb
#580 [02:06] <xales> I will find out one way or another
#581 [02:06] <xales> :3
#582 [02:07] <xales> hurray for extremely nested quotes
#583 [02:07] <xales> actually
#584 [02:07] <xales> nevermind
#585 [02:07] <xales> i don't have that any more
#586 [02:07] <relsqui> I wonder if I'm supposed to double space this
#587 [02:07] <Kealper> ok so...how can i fix this arch without reinstalling everything?
#588 [02:07] <xales> Kealper
#589 [02:07] <xales> boot to grub
#590 [02:07] <xales> select the boot entry
#591 [02:07] <xales> press E
#592 [02:07] <relsqui> ah! I am
#593 [02:07] <xales> dopeghoti: what is the parameter to the kernel to force runlevel?
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#595 [02:08] <xales> just the number?
#596 [02:08] <relsqui> that makes the length guideline make WAY more soense
#597 [02:08] <Takinomfan> can someone tell me if lava burns chests?
#598 [02:08] <xales> yes it is
#599 [02:08] <xales> Takinomfan: I don't think so
#600 [02:08] <Takinomfan> thanks
#601 [02:08] <xales> Kealper: press E on the boot option
#602 [02:08] <xales> then press E on the line that says "kernel (blah blah)"
#603 [02:09] <Takinomfan> now i can make some hidden storage
#604 [02:09] <xales> after the "ro" in that line put "3" and hit enter
#605 [02:09] <xales> so "root=/dev/sdblah ro 3"
#606 [02:09] <xales> then enter
#607 [02:09] <xales> then b
#608 [02:09] <xales> then fixed.
#609 [02:09] <lahwran> stop saying blag :<
#610 [02:09] <lahwran> blah*
#611 [02:09] <Kealper> it already starts in runlevel 3
#612 [02:09] <xales> blah
#613 [02:09] <lahwran> it triggers my regex for "lah" :<
#614 [02:09] <xales> Kealper
#615 [02:09] <xales> it shouldn't
#616 [02:09] <xales> <.<
#617 [02:09] <Kealper> it does...
#618 [02:09] <xales> you did that part wrong
#619 [02:09] <xales> then
#620 [02:10] <xales> if it starts X in runlevel 3
#621 [02:10] <xales> do 1 instead of 3 then
#622 [02:10] <Kealper> it starts in runlevel 3, then starts x, then starts slim
#623 [02:10] <xales> it shouldn't
#624 [02:10] <xales> you should use 5 for that
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#626 [02:10] <xales> thus avoiding this issue entirely
#627 [02:10] <Kealper> i told you i probably set it up wrong >.>
#628 [02:10] <xales> more or less
#629 [02:11] <xales> aww, Kealper
#630 [02:11] <Kealper> e does nothing in grub...it ignores it
#631 [02:11] <xales> mr_flea is here again so we can't plot our offensive as well. Good thing Steam chat is usable while in-game :>
#632 [02:11] <xales> Kealper: hilight the boot option
#633 [02:11] <xales> then press e
#634 [02:11] <xales> err
#635 [02:11] <xales> c rather
#636 [02:12] <xales> then hilight the "kernel" line and press e
#637 [02:12] <xales> then edit it to have a 1 at the end
#638 [02:12] <xales> then hit enter
#639 [02:12] <xales> then hit b
#640 [02:12] <jwshields> Hey, do you guys remember me from earlier? I had the ram issues. you guys said it was the mod, i've been running the server without the mods, and it still is having issues
#641 [02:12] <Kealper> yeah...totally does not work
#642 [02:13] <xales> jwshields: what issues?
#643 [02:13] <xales> Kealper: how does it not work? ._.
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#645 [02:13] <Kealper> so i'm thinking....i might reinstall everything and take a snapshot to the point right after it's installed and updated the core packages
#646 [02:13] <xales> <.<
#647 [02:13] <xales> better to learn to fix it
#648 [02:13] <xales> then to just undo it
#649 [02:14] <Kealper> xales: it ignores everything except the enter key....which just makes it start instantly >.>
#650 [02:14] <jwshields> xales, im still getting the system bogged down because the system is running out of memory
#651 [02:14] <xales> jwshields: does it actually have enough memory? how much?
#652 [02:14] <jwshields> It has 2gb of ram
#653 [02:14] <xales> Kealper: press the down arrow then the up arrow
#654 [02:14] <xales> then see if you can do it
#655 [02:14] <xales> jwshields: a VPS?
#656 [02:15] <jwshields> and almost immediatly upon starting the server, it starts giving me a system overloaded error,
#657 [02:15] <jwshields> no, my own computer,
#658 [02:15] <jwshields> a spare server i have
#659 [02:15] <xales> oh
#660 [02:15] <Kealper> it literaly does not respond to anything, not even selecting the one in there that is probably the "ohshit" one
#661 [02:15] <xales> Kealper, how did you manage to bork Grub too ._.
#662 [02:15] <Kealper> carefully.
#663 [02:15] <xales> jwshields: what else is running on it?
#664 [02:16] <jwshields> xales, uhh, not much else, just a basic debian operating system,
#665 [02:16] <xales> jwshields: run `free -m` - paste the line "-/+ buffers/cache: xxxx xxxx"
#666 [02:17] <jwshields> wait what? in the bash shell or minecraft server console?
#667 [02:17] <Kealper> xales: i hit the googles...and found some stuff to letme boot into a console...i hope
#668 [02:18] <xales> jwshields: shell
#669 [02:18] <jwshields> kk
#670 [02:18] <xales> Kealper: what, exactly?
#671 [02:18] <jwshields> one second
#672 [02:19] <Kealper> xales: special "usernames" for the login thing
#673 [02:19] <xales> ah
#674 [02:20] <Kealper> ok....i think this is totally done for....
#675 [02:20] <Kealper> black screen with X's cursor
#676 [02:21] <xales> what username did you use
#677 [02:21] <jwshields> xales, -/+ buffers/cache: 889 1129
#678 [02:21] <jwshields> xales, thats what i have right now, i just started the server,
#679 [02:22] <jwshields> and asked two people to log on
#680 [02:22] <xales> jwshields: can you paste it without the server running as well?
#681 [02:22] <Kealper> both "console" and "exit" dun work....
#682 [02:22] <jwshields> -/+ buffers/cache: 1112 906
#683 [02:22] <Kealper> only other ones are shutdown options
#684 [02:22] <jwshields> xales, -/+ buffers/cache: 204 1814
#685 [02:22] <jwshields> that is without
#686 [02:24] <xales> how are you launching the server?
#687 [02:24] <jwshields> java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
#688 [02:24] <jwshields> no mods are enabled
#689 [02:25] <xales> try running the vanilla server, not bukkit
#690 [02:26] <jwshields> what's that? running it without bukkit?
#691 [02:28] <xales> yes
#692 [02:28] <jwshields> I'm ruunning this right now "java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#693 [02:29] <jwshields> This is with one person on it right now, -/+ buffers/cache: 748 1270
#694 [02:30] <jwshields> -/+ buffers/cache: 920 1098
#695 [02:30] <jwshields> ram usage is going up
#696 [02:30] <xales> yeah, it does that
#697 [02:30] <xales> try allocating 1.5GB instead of just one
#698 [02:31] <jwshields> mmk, one sec.
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#700 [02:32] <CruelDestiny> Hello everyone! A particularly stupid question, but how do you change the look of your in game character?
#701 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> minecraftskins.com
#702 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Download one, go to minecraft.net, log in, go to your profile page, upload skin there
#703 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Done
#704 [02:33] <CruelDestiny> Thank you.
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#709 [02:35] <jDodson99> Can anyone here help me with a redstone "notification" thing?
#710 [02:36] <jDodson99> I want to be able to trigger a pressure plate and have a light go off in my base that shows that the plate is currently "on"
#711 [02:36] <jDodson99> That's possible, right?
#712 [02:37] <jwshields> xales, i allocated more ram, it's still lagging, getting server overloaded errors even though ram isnt being fully used
#713 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes jDodson99
#714 [02:37] <xales> jwshields: how fast is the server's CPU?
#715 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you want the redstone light to only be on if the pressure plate is triggered, then off when it's not
#716 [02:38] <jDodson99> Yes.
#717 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Or do you want the light to be on even after the pressure plate is untriggered
#718 [02:38] <jwshields> xales, it's a pentium 4 hyperthreaded, showing two logical cores, each at 3.00 ghz
#719 [02:38] <jDodson99> I tried the "redtorch, block, redtorch, block" to make it go underground and then put a pressure plate on the top block, but that (obviously?) failed.
#720 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Got a server or somewhere I can show you?
#721 [02:39] <jDodson99> I'm about to turn it on
#722 [02:39] <jDodson99> 173.216.1.66
#723 [02:39] <xales> jwshields: and there is absolutely nothing else running on the server?
#724 [02:39] <jDodson99> I love how I can remember my external IP off the top of my head ;D
#725 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - not working for me
#726 [02:40] <jwshields> xales, just basic linux things, gnome, and ircd, bash, apashe2, without the MC server running, I only have 203mb of ram usage
#727 [02:40] <jDodson99> Uhh... *goes to check problem*
#728 [02:41] * Kealper just set putty to utf-8...all is well within the world now
#728 [02:42] <xales> jwshields: and there likely is the problem =/
#729 [02:42] <xales> close all of that
#730 [02:42] <xales> completely shut off X, the ircd, apache2 and just about everything
#731 [02:42] <xales> then try running it
#732 [02:42] <xales> <.<
#733 [02:43] <jDodson99> o_O On my server gui it says "Done(2084477000ns)!"
#734 [02:43] <jDodson99> Any idea what that might mean?
#735 [02:43] <xales> nope
#736 [02:43] <jwshields> I've killed gnome and other stuff, but my problem is that MC is eating -all- of my ram.
#737 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Just means it took that long to set up?
#738 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Check all your port forwarding stuff again
#739 [02:44] <jwshields> jDodson99, my server does that too, I think that it means it's done loading everything
#740 [02:44] <jDodson99> Ah.
#741 [02:44] <jDodson99> My PF is fine
#742 [02:44] <jDodson99> I just checked
#743 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Now it works
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#745 [02:45] <jDodson99> That was weird o_O
#746 [02:46] <BarryCarlyon> jwshields: java does that on ubuntu or did it to my friends laptop the other day and that was after using logmein.
#747 [02:47] <xales> jwshields: restart the server, but don't start anything if possible
#748 [02:47] <xales> boot into runlevel 3
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#750 [02:48] <jwshields> xales, how would I do that? D; i've never done anything indepth in linux before
#751 [02:48] <BarryCarlyon> jDodson99: done in x seconds I thought it was how long it took to finish the map conversion in nano seconds....but if it does it every boot.
#752 [02:48] <xales> jwshields: start it up, and immediately as root run `/sbin/telinit 3`
#753 [02:49] <jwshields> where? on the actual computer or through ssh?
#754 [02:49] <xales> either one, same effect
#755 [02:49] <jwshields> okay, hold on
#756 [02:49] <jwshields> I'm restarting it now
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#758 [02:51] <jwshields> xales, I did that, it just returned to a new line
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#760 [02:51] <xales> jwshields: try running the server now
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#762 [02:51] <jwshields> What did that command do?
#763 [02:51] <xales> put it in runlevel 3
#764 [02:52] <jwshields> well, what's that mean?
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#766 [02:52] <BarryCarlyon> Its in the 3rd level of running
#767 [02:52] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#768 [02:52] <xales> <.<
#769 [02:53] <xales> I believe on Debian, runlevel 3 will not start X Windows
#770 [02:53] <Barford> I'm having trouble with trying to get mobs to spawn in the dark, do they spawn in made caverns ?
#771 [02:53] <xales> or any related daemons
#772 [02:53] <xales> Barford: they should be, but you need to not be looking right at it, it needs to be large and dark enough
#773 [02:53] <Barford> 24 boxs square
#774 [02:54] <Barford> and no torches
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#776 [02:54] <xales> make sure there is absolutely no light going in, then walk really far away, then go back
#777 [02:54] <jwshields> mmk, I'm running the server right now.
#778 [02:54] <Barford> xales if i run a server with the save, could you join and look at it for me please ?
#779 [02:55] <xales> Barford: nope, couldn't even if I wanted to - on my laptop, can't run Minecraft, and it's 3am <.<
#780 [02:55] <Barford> ah no problem
#781 [02:55] <raiders> I need some advice on a vps to rent to run a decent minecraft server... something like $20 a month and be able to support ~8-10 players max
#782 [02:56] <raiders> centos or debian os preferred... i want my own server so i can install mods and host a little apache server for a landing page
#783 [02:57] <xales> raiders: for that much money, you won't be able to host that many players
#784 [02:57] <xales> it would be more like $30-$40/month
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#786 [02:58] <raiders> point me in the right direction, 20 bucks isnt firm
#787 [02:58] <xales> http://allgamer.net/
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#789 [02:59] <xales> if you intend on running Apache or really anything else
#790 [02:59] <xales> you will probably need 1.5GB of RAM
#791 [02:59] <xales> (also: the reasons the plans look expensive compared to other providers is that they are hosting on the Xen platform, which is much better and the way it works, you get dedicated hardware, as opposed to openvz, where you do not. openvz is always oversold, and cheaper because of it)
#792 [03:00] <raiders> how much ram can i expect the minecraft server to use with < 10 players?
#793 [03:00] <AG_Clinton> 1/100mb
#794 [03:00] <xales> you should give it at least 1GB just for itself, for around 10 players
#795 [03:00] <raiders> honestly avg server load will be like 4-5 max... but we are "converting" more of our buddies every day
#796 [03:01] <jwshields> xales, okay, I'm running the computer in that mode, it still lagging really bad under 2 users, and not using very much ram
#797 [03:01] <xales> though AG_Clinton works at Allgamer, and can help more than I can :)
#798 [03:01] <raiders> alright
#799 [03:01] <raiders> well thanks for your help
#800 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> Generally.
#801 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> Try to keep it 100mb per playe.r
#802 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> To allow for smoooooth gameplay.
#803 [03:01] <xales> jwshields: run the `top` command, see what if anything is using a lot of CPU
#804 [03:02] <raiders> alright
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#806 [03:03] <jwshields> I'm runnign it, nothing else is using cpu
#807 [03:04] <xales> jwshields: how much CPU is the minecraft server using?
#808 [03:04] <jwshields> normally around 90% each core
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#811 [03:06] <AG_Scott> jwshields, i dont think thats possible.
#812 [03:06] <AG_Scott> It's single threaded.
#813 [03:06] <jwshields> It's a hyperthreaded p4
#814 [03:06] <jwshields> it shows two logical cores
#815 [03:06] <AG_Scott> The server software is single threaded though.
#816 [03:06] <AG_Scott> It will only use 1 thread.
#817 [03:07] <jwshields> Really? I've seen it spike both cores
#818 [03:07] <jwshields> I'm also running rthe server through a screen session.. so i can log off and go back on
#819 [03:09] <xales> jwshields: if it's using 90% CPU, then there is the problem
#820 [03:09] <xales> the hardware on the system just can't keep up
#821 [03:10] <jwshields> ;~;
#822 [03:10] <jwshields> fuckmylife
#823 [03:12] <Barford> anybody from aussie here
#824 [03:12] <Barford> need to test my server
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#826 [03:19] <raiders> got another question, what exactly am i specifying when i enter "-Xms1024M" and "-Xmx1024M", am I specifying a default allocated memory space, or the upper limit allowed...
#827 [03:20] <xales> raiders: upper limit, basically
#828 [03:20] <raiders> and those two added should fit within the limits of the server?
#829 [03:21] <xales> yes, they must
#830 [03:21] <raiders> alright
#831 [03:21] <raiders> that would explain why my server locked up and threw out of memory errors all over the place :>
#832 [03:21] <xales> if the server has 2GB of RAM, you shouldn't launch it with more than 90% of that or so as the parameter
#833 [03:21] <xales> so, no more than 1.8 or so in that
#834 [03:21] <xales> :)
#835 [03:22] * xales goes to bed now. 3AM! D:
#835 [03:22] <raiders> thanks again bud, gnight
#836 [03:23] <jwshields> goodnight xales thanks for the help
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#848 [04:07] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :so uhh... 1.3_01 is crashing in SMP on my Mac
#849 [04:07] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :it works for a little bit, and then crashes.
#850 [04:08] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I have a crashlog if that helps anybody?
#851 [04:08] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and this is with a fresh version of MC. Deleted Minecraft.app and ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft and downloaded a new .app from minecraft.net
#852 [04:08] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::(
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#857 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> spleeyah - If you could pastebin.com it, that would be great
#858 [04:19] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :one sec
#859 [04:20] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: http://minecraft-crashes.pastebin.com/NRvfFPJV I've noticed that it seems to happen when I expand the window to large sizes (1080p)
#860 [04:21] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Thread 21 crashed
#861 [04:21] <SinZ> i like the minecraft-crashs.pastebin link =D
#862 [04:21] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :(it's done this several times now btw)
#863 [04:21] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :SinZ: it was only fitting ;)
#864 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> spleeyah - You doing multiple displays?
#865 [04:22] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: yes.
#866 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#867 [04:22] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :o.0
#868 [04:22] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :_really_ ?
#869 [04:22] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :why's that?
#870 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Mac and minecraft have this long standing bug, where java doesn't like it if minecraft is on the second display
#871 [04:22] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :O_O
#872 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> Lemme see if I can't pull up the getsaisfaction report
#873 [04:23] <SinZ> soo... wassup greyvulpine =D
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#875 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#876 [04:24] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: so... is there any way I can run it on my 2nd display?
#877 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Not on a mac, currently.
#878 [04:24] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: make the 2nd display the main one maybe?
#879 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.. I don't have a mac to test this on
#880 [04:25] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: oh haha okay.
#881 [04:25] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well, thanks for your help :)
#882 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> I only know this, because you're not the first person to pass by here with that error
#883 [04:25] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lol
#884 [04:25] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well it seems like notch should get on that ;)
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#886 [04:27] <Raoh> I am having some problems getting my minecraft to work.
#887 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> There is the regular report I usually see with multiple displays on mac
#888 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crash_on_focus_change_macosx_secondary_screen
#889 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> This is the one consistant with yours spleeyah: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/_mac_consistent_crash_very_regular_any_view_setting_errorreport
#890 [04:27] <Raoh> I installed a mod, and I was unable to play online. I deleted the bin folderm, I deleted every folder, and then It would not even let me play offline after deleting the bin or anything
#891 [04:28] <Raoh> I am on windows
#892 [04:28] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Raoh: delete the .app/.exe as well?
#893 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Raoh - Hmm? Why can't you play offline?
#894 [04:28] <spleeyah> 470:f310:0:225:ff:fe48:9e75 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :GreyVulpine: thanks for your help.
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#896 [04:29] <Raoh> I deleted the entire appdata folder for mincraft
#897 [04:29] <Raoh> and redownloaded a new .exe from the site
#898 [04:29] <Raoh> and it wont connect
#899 [04:29] <Raoh> it was fine before I installed the mod
#900 [04:30] <aetherian> night
#901 [04:30] <Raoh> It says "game not downloaded" for when I wanna play offline.
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#904 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Raoh - You did buy minecraft, right?
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#911 [04:42] <Raoh> Okay
#912 [04:42] <Raoh> As soon as I try and go get help, my internet has to mess with me.
#913 [04:43] <Raoh> I fixed it
#914 [04:44] <Raoh> I feel like an moron now.
#915 [04:51] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Dude! Minecraft is being horrible to me :(
#916 [04:53] <fogWraith> It's being nice to me :P
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#920 [04:59] <stoker> i had a system crash while playing minecraft beta
#921 [04:59] <stoker> and now my save is gone...
#922 [05:00] <stoker> is there a way to find it on hard drive and run it again ?
#923 [05:00] <lemon-rev> only if you look into your .minecraft folder and you prob wont find it
#924 [05:01] <stoker> yea, they're not there
#925 [05:01] <stoker> so, i have to start all over ?
#926 [05:01] <lemon-rev> yup,
#927 [05:01] <lemon-rev> unless it was seeded by number
#928 [05:01] <SinZ> i think its sad how sony could do a police raid over a hacked ps3
#929 [05:02] <SinZ> in germany
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#931 [05:02] <stoker> well it was saved on "world 2"
#932 [05:02] <lemon-rev> so does world 2 show up on minecraft or have those folders just gone ?
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#935 [05:03] <lemon-rev> sinz it shows the superior force of sony being a big ass money hungry asshole
#936 [05:03] <stoker> folder looks kinda empty
#937 [05:03] <lemon-rev> ?
#938 [05:04] <stoker> but when i run minecraft and want to play saved game
#939 [05:04] <lemon-rev> yea ?
#940 [05:04] <stoker> there is still my previous world 1 & 3
#941 [05:04] <stoker> but 2 is gone :/
#942 [05:04] <lemon-rev> gay, sorry to hear
#943 [05:05] <stoker> yeah
#944 [05:05] <stoker> what ever
#945 [05:06] <stoker> so i suppose that this one save is totally lost
#946 [05:06] <lemon-rev> yup, just start again if you have to, but its all good when you do just make sure you back up reguallary
#947 [05:08] <stoker> saved games can be found in .minecraft/saves folder right ?
#948 [05:08] <lemon-rev> that should be where you can find them
#949 [05:08] <stoker> ok, thanks a lot for your help
#950 [05:09] <stoker> cya
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#952 [05:21] <nevercast> My laptop is running at a constant 90+ degrees celcius
#953 [05:21] <nevercast> the air from the laptop is too hot to put your hand in front of
#954 [05:21] <nevercast> let alone the body
#955 [05:23] <Con> Mine runs at ~51 degrees when it's not being used much, and usually around 60 when I'm doing someone resource-intensive-ish
#956 [05:23] <Con> something*
#957 [05:24] <CoLoN1> watching porn?
#958 [05:24] <CoLoN1> :P
#959 [05:24] <ItsCriminal> how many blocks is a mcr big?
#960 [05:25] <ItsCriminal> ?*?*?
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#962 [05:36] <Zothos> hi
#963 [05:36] <Zothos> i know minecartmania is not supported, but someone might give me a short installation howto for the latest official server? (i already tried creating a plugins folder, putting the file there and editing the server.properties (i do have a plain and standard server, this would be my first plugin))
#964 [05:38] <AG_Scott> Zothos, try #risucraft
#965 [05:39] <AG_Scott> That's the mod channel
#966 [05:39] <Zothos> ok, thanks. Will try it there
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#985 [07:19] <Kenny81> Hi
#986 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#987 [07:20] <Kenny81> how's things today?
#988 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> MC appears to be up, servers are letting in people, life seems to be good
#989 [07:20] <Kenny81> Glad to hear that MC is nice to some people at least
#990 [07:21] <Kenny81> Last patch made it unplayable for me :(
#991 [07:21] * AG_Scott pays someone to pee on the servers
#991 [07:22] <Kenny81> lol
#992 [07:24] <Kenny81> does anyone know how to fix the black-screen-in-2-minutes problem?
#993 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us a little more info to work on? What OS?
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#995 [07:25] <Kenny81> Win 7 Ultimate. Got latest Java and drivers for everything
#996 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> Using 64 bit java, and only 64-bit java?
#997 [07:26] <Kenny81> Running 32 bit Win7
#998 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
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#1001 [07:27] <Kenny81> I accidently installed the wrong version and hasnt bothered with fixing that yet
#1002 [07:28] <fogWraith> Better call Microsoft then and get that license transferred ;)
#1003 [07:29] <Kenny81> sounds like a plan ^^
#1004 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Kenny81 - Are you using the minecraft.exe to launch the game?
#1005 [07:30] <Kenny81> yes
#1006 [07:30] <Kenny81> the new version
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#1009 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, how much RAM do you have on that system?
#1010 [07:31] <Cevius> Ahoy peeps!
#1011 [07:31] <Kenny81> Only 2G at the moment
#1012 [07:32] <Kenny81> need a new mobo to get 4 again.
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#1014 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Kenny81 - As a test, can you download the minecraft.jar and launch it with say.. -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M?
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#1016 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> See if that little boost in starting RAM alllocation does anything
#1017 [07:34] <Kenny81> guess I can give it a shot
#1018 [07:35] <Kenny81> just type java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar in the command line?
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#1020 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, basically, in the same directory where you have minecraft.jar
#1021 [07:36] <Kenny81> just gonna finnish this EVE mission and I'll try it :)
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#1024 [07:44] <Con> ç
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#1027 [07:58] <Dalc> hi
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#1030 [07:59] <Dalc> Someone could help me ?
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#1032 [08:00] <Con> yes
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#1034 [08:00] <Dalc> Ok, when i launch minecraft.jar (On linux) with java -jar minecraft.jar i have an error :/
#1035 [08:02] <Dalc> http://mibpaste.com/zWDEyV , the error
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#1037 [08:05] <fogWraith> Dalc, install Sun JRE
#1038 [08:05] <Dalc> i have
#1039 [08:05] <fogWraith> That shows OpenJDK
#1040 [08:05] <Dalc> i suppose i have both
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#1042 [08:06] <fogWraith> alternatives --config java
#1043 [08:06] <Dalc> i often program on java and i can compile and launch
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#1055 [08:21] <Kenny81> hmm.. that didnt help mucg :(
#1056 [08:21] <Kenny81> *much
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#1058 [08:23] <Kenny81> I tried to run java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar in stead of the .exe launcher. It lasted a bit longer, but still made a black screen and crash
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#1060 [08:25] <Kenny81> cmd window said ######### GL ERROR #########
#1061 [08:25] <Kenny81> @ post render
#1062 [08:25] <Kenny81> 1285: out of memory
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#1064 [08:27] <sacoetzee> hey
#1065 [08:27] <Kenny81> hi
#1066 [08:27] <sacoetzee> hows everyone doing this fine day?
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#1068 [08:28] <sacoetzee> just bought MC today, running 64bit gentoo linux, but doesn't want to start. anyone here willing to help me troubleshoot?
#1069 [08:29] <Kenny81> no linux skills for me Im afraid :(
#1070 [08:30] <sacoetzee> shoot. I have linux skills but having trouble with this one. It starts, logs in, just before it gets to the white screen logo its crashes my X server.
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#1072 [08:35] <Kenny81> I've been having loads of trouble with MC myself on my win7 box. Especially since the last patch. The last patch made it viritualy unplayable
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#1075 [08:37] <Kenny81> Does anyone know if SLI might cause problems for MC?
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#1078 [08:43] <Pavgran> where to find last redstone simulator and does it support delay/repeater block?
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#1080 [08:44] <Kade> I highly doubt it'd even notice you have SLI tbh Kenny81 :P
#1081 [08:45] <Kenny81> lol
#1082 [08:47] <Kenny81> it's just that the game blackscreens and when I look at the command line after the game is gone it says "GL ERROR" "@ Post render" "1285: Out of Memory" So just tought it might be something related to the video mem
#1083 [08:47] <Kenny81> memory adressing fucked up or something like that
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#1085 [08:50] <maageN> Hello guys, I was wondering if anybody in here could help me, does anybody have the time?
#1086 [08:50] <Pavgran> i have, but i'm not sure i can help in any problem
#1087 [08:51] <maageN> well, you see. I had my friend to buy MC for me last night... The problem is that my account is still not premium :(
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#1089 [08:52] <Pavgran> your friend have bought gift code for you or he registered mc through your accouunt?
#1090 [08:53] <maageN> well, I dont know. I think he bought the game through my MC account, but I will ask him. Can you tell me what to do if he did either way?
#1091 [08:54] <Pavgran> there is two ways to buy minecraft: first is directly through account, second is by gift code
#1092 [08:54] <Pavgran> if your friend have chosen second way, ask him for gift code for you
#1093 [08:55] <maageN> okay, but what he he did it through my account and its still not working? What should i do then?
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#1095 [08:57] <Kenny81> gah! Mere words cannot describe hos I despise this computer -.-
#1096 [08:57] <Pavgran> if he did it through account, it should be premium, but if not, try to report to mojang...
#1097 [08:57] <maageN> can you link me the email or tell me where to find it?
#1098 [08:58] <Pavgran> uhh, try to see if you have gift codes at your account
#1099 [08:58] <maageN> How do i do that?
#1100 [08:58] <Pavgran> maybe your friend maked mistake
#1101 [08:59] <Pavgran> see at your profile at minecraft.net
#1102 [08:59] <Pavgran> http://minecraft.net/skin/
#1103 [08:59] <maageN> You need to buy the game to be able to change your skin.
#1104 [08:59] <maageN> To show this skin to someone, use this link.
#1105 [08:59] <maageN> Change password
#1106 [08:59] <maageN> Click here to change your password
#1107 [08:59] <maageN> Gift codes
#1108 [08:59] <maageN> that is what my profile is saying
#1109 [08:59] <maageN> the normal i think
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#1111 [09:00] <maageN> cant change the skin...
#1112 [09:00] <Globexanter[iFOK]> I have a question
#1113 [09:00] <Globexanter[iFOK]> How do I get on the offline version ?
#1114 [09:01] <Pavgran> Globexanter[iFOK]: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1115 [09:01] <Con> Globexanter[iFOK]: When you log in on the client it'll download the files, and you'll be able to play Minecraft without logging in
#1116 [09:01] <Globexanter[iFOK]> Thank-you
#1117 [09:01] <Pavgran> maageN: first, ask your friend for gift code, and if it will not work, report mojang
#1118 [09:01] <Con> Don't forget to purchase it
#1119 [09:02] <maageN> okay, but he doesnt have a MC account or anything, will he still have the gift code?
#1120 [09:02] <Pavgran> he cann't by gift codes if he dont have an account
#1121 [09:02] <Globexanter[iFOK]> It still says " Not Downloaded "
#1122 [09:02] <Pavgran> Globexanter[iFOK]: play online once
#1123 [09:02] <maageN> but he used my account to buy it with
#1124 [09:03] <Globexanter[iFOK]> " User not premium "
#1125 [09:03] <Con> Globexanter[iFOK]: You need to successfully log in on the client, or you can try it in the browser. You need to buy the game
#1126 [09:03] <Pavgran> are you sure that he purchased it?
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#1128 [09:04] <maageN> that is was he said to me, but he told me that the website told him it could take like 24 hours for me to have the premium account. But my other friend got it in 5 mins.....
#1129 [09:04] <Con> Key word "could"
#1130 [09:05] <Pavgran> yep))
#1131 [09:05] <maageN> yeah, but ...
#1132 [09:05] <Con> Your friend got pretty lucky with only 5 minutes
#1133 [09:05] <Pavgran> i waited about two hours
#1134 [09:05] <maageN> So your saying that i will get it tonight, if he bought it right etc?
#1135 [09:05] <maageN> he bought it last night
#1136 [09:06] <Pavgran> we saying that you will get it before this night
#1137 [09:07] <maageN> okay cool. Can i contact you again Pavgran, if its not there?
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#1139 [09:07] <Pavgran> yep
#1140 [09:08] <maageN> on this IRC?
#1141 [09:08] <Pavgran> yep
#1142 [09:08] <maageN> sweet, see you, and thanks alot for the help
#1143 [09:08] <Pavgran> buy
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#1146 [09:11] <obi_wan> hey im about to buy a laptop later on cant decide on a couple
#1147 [09:12] <obi_wan> would anyone know how well this would handle apps like minecraft
#1148 [09:12] <obi_wan> Acer Aspire 5738DZG 4GB RAM 320GB HD 15.6 inch 3D Laptop. The Aspire 5738DG Series features innovative 3D viewing technology, Dolby® surround sound, a high-def graphics engine, and a premium processor to transport you to another dimension of immersive entertainment so real you can almost reach and touch it. CPU and Memory: * Intel Pentium T4400. *
#1149 [09:12] <obi_wan> oops sorry
#1150 [09:12] <obi_wan> Acer Aspire 5738DZG 4GB RAM 320GB HD 15.6 inch 3D Laptop. The Aspire 5738DG Series features innovative 3D viewing technology, Dolby® surround sound, a high-def graphics engine, and a premium processor to transport you to another dimension of immersive entertainment so real you can almost reach and touch it. CPU and Memory: * Intel Pentium T4400. *
#1151 [09:12] <sacoetzee> i want an hp pavilion dv6. would handle it like a dream
#1152 [09:13] <obi_wan> yeh im on quite a low budget
#1153 [09:13] <obi_wan> * Intel Pentium T4400. * 2.2GHz processor speed. * 4GB RAM memory. * 320GB hard drive. Display features: * 15.6in widescreen display. DVD optical drives: * DVD+RW/DVD-RW(read/write). Graphics: * ATI Radeon HD 4570 graphics card with 512MB memory
#1154 [09:13] <obi_wan> how would tht spec handle things sorry for the bad pastes
#1155 [09:14] <Pavgran> i have a 5 years old laptop, and it handle minecraft well
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#1157 [09:14] <obi_wan> yeh
#1158 [09:14] <obi_wan> my current laptop is good but has intel graphics lol
#1159 [09:14] <obi_wan> what does yours have
#1160 [09:15] <Pavgran> i have asus 2800s
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#1162 [09:16] <obi_wan> hmm
#1163 [09:16] <Pavgran> but it cannot run minecraft server, its too hard for him((
#1164 [09:19] <sacoetzee> HP Pavilion dv6, Price +-650 Pounds, Intel Core i5-430M , 4GB DDR3, Nvidia GeForce G105M 512M, 500G 7200rpm SATA HDD
#1165 [09:21] <sacoetzee> the asus you mentioned isn't too far from that i think, price wise anyway
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#1167 [09:24] <Pavgran> where to find last redstone simulator and does it support delay/repeater block?
#1168 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Redstone simulator can be found here:
#1169 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=17924
#1170 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> It has not been updated with the latest repeater block
#1171 [09:26] <Pavgran> thx
#1172 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> I believe the author has stopped development on it
#1173 [09:27] <Pavgran> that's bad, i wanted to test my redstone scheme with a lot of delayers
#1174 [09:28] <Pavgran> seems that i need to test it in mc)
#1175 [09:32] <ToNo> How do I create a bed?
#1176 [09:32] <Pavgran> 3 wool above 3 wood
#1177 [09:33] <Pavgran> [wool] [wool] [wool]
#1178 [09:33] <Pavgran> [wood][wood][wood]
#1179 [09:33] <Pavgran> any color of wool
#1180 [09:34] <ToNo> Dosnt work for me
#1181 [09:34] <BarryCarlyon> ToNo: check the crafting recipes on the wiki.
#1182 [09:34] <BarryCarlyon> Its not wood is wood crafted into block of planks iirc.
#1183 [09:34] <Pavgran> do you have last update? 1.3_01
#1184 [09:34] <ToNo> Planks yes, thanx :)
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#1207 [11:00] <Rait> Anyone know a seed for a huge desert without many trees or grass?
#1208 [11:02] <Pavgran> 666 i think
#1209 [11:03] <Kush> how do i get health in minecraft?
#1210 [11:03] <xales> Kush: food
#1211 [11:04] <Kush> ok thanks
#1212 [11:04] <Rait> Pavgran: 666 has alot of grass and trees here and there, tried multiple times.
#1213 [11:05] <Pavgran> Rait: pls wait ill say seed for a desert
#1214 [11:10] <Pavgran> Rait: srry, the seed i expected to create a desert world, dont create it((
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#1216 [11:11] <xolotl> Rait: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=160139
#1217 [11:12] <xolotl> Rait: That's not a seed, of course, but you could at least get a decent-sized desert out of it
#1218 [11:12] <xolotl> Rait: I also seem to think that there's a mod or two which lets you tweak the terrain generation parameters (so you could set the default biome size quite high, and perhaps only allow desert, etc)
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#1231 [11:25] <Kealper> RayeS: fix your internet ._.
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#1242 [11:38] <Draglems1> Hi, I can't log intop my BETA account on the website, why?
#1243 [11:38] <Draglems1> I can log into my Draglems1 account, just not the Prem account.
#1244 [11:38] <Kealper> incorrect info?
#1245 [11:38] <Kealper> what is it saying?
#1246 [11:38] <Draglems1> No, its correct.
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#1248 [11:39] <Kealper> have you tried just changing your password?
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#1250 [11:39] <Draglems1> No.
#1251 [11:39] <Draglems1> It says inncorect username/password
#1252 [11:40] <Draglems1> I can log into BETA with it though.
#1253 [11:40] <Kealper> wait, you can log into the game, but using the same info you can't log into the site?
#1254 [11:40] <Draglems1> Yeah.
#1255 [11:41] <Draglems1> but Draglems1 can log into the site.
#1256 [11:41] <dopeghoti> impressive
#1257 [11:41] <Kealper> that's weird...how long has this been going on?
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#1259 [11:41] <Micki93> hej
#1260 [11:41] <Kealper> ello
#1261 [11:41] <Micki93> i started the minecraft server thing but i got this. anyone know how to fix?
#1262 [11:41] <dopeghoti> define 'this'.
#1263 [11:42] <Micki93> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#1264 [11:42] <Micki93> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#1265 [11:42] <Micki93> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#1266 [11:42] <Micki93> the middle one
#1267 [11:42] <Kealper> Draglems1: if it just started, then i would say give it a few hours, it could just be a hiccup with the site
#1268 [11:42] <Kealper> stupid slow aubot
#1269 [11:42] <Kealper> Micki93: did you edit server.properties?
#1270 [11:43] <Micki93> yes but i dont know if its right
#1271 [11:43] <Draglems1> ..
#1272 [11:43] <Kealper> did you change the server-ip= line?
#1273 [11:43] <Draglems1> No
#1274 [11:43] <Draglems1> I haven't been able to do it since yesterday
#1275 [11:43] <Micki93> #Minecraft server properties
#1276 [11:43] <Micki93> #Mon Oct 18 16:40:26 CEST 2010
#1277 [11:43] <Micki93> online-mode=true
#1278 [11:43] <Micki93> monsters=True
#1279 [11:43] <Micki93> server-ip=83.254.196.175
#1280 [11:43] <Kealper> take the ip out of server-ip
#1281 [11:43] <Kealper> so it just says server-ip=
#1282 [11:44] <Kealper> that is only really useful for people who have really nice servers in datacenters
#1283 [11:44] <Micki93> ok
#1284 [11:44] <Pavgran> i have a problem: i have read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Minecarts and now i'm trying to use solution A, but it doesnt works. it works only at mobs, not at players, as expected. can you help me solve it?
#1285 [11:44] <Kealper> Draglems1: you could send an email to support@mojang.com and tell them about your plight, but i'm not sure what is causing it O.o
#1286 [11:45] <Micki93> but it still sais warning wen im trying to start my server.
#1287 [11:45] <dopeghoti> ??> Micki93 pastebin
#1288 [11:45] <VoxelHead> Micki93: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1289 [11:46] <VoxelHead> Micki93: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1290 [11:46] <dopeghoti> Micki93: you will get that warning also if you already have a server running. I presume you're running Windows?
#1291 [11:46] <Micki93> yeah im running windows
#1292 [11:47] <Kealper> alright i'm going afk
#1293 [11:47] <dopeghoti> Micki93: press ctrel-alt-del, go to the Processes tab, sort it alphabetically, and end all 'lavaw' tasks
#1294 [11:47] <dopeghoti> erm, 'javaw'
#1295 [11:49] <Micki93> thx
#1296 [11:50] <dopeghoti> Pavgran: for those of us loathe to open the MC Wiki at work, what is 'solution A'?
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#1300 [11:54] <Pavgran> dopeghoti: too long to explain all, but main idea is that minecart rides between two pressure plates, and it expected that when there riding player or mobs, at least one plate will be pushed
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#1305 [11:59] <dopeghoti> ah, the stone-plate/wood-plate thing
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#1307 [12:00] <Pavgran> dopeghoti: two stone plates. when mob rides on minecart, one of this plates activates,but when player rides... nothing
#1308 [12:00] <dopeghoti> Pavgran: that's very unusual; a player-in-a-card should definitely trigger a stone plate.
#1309 [12:00] <dopeghoti> it certainly does on my server.
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#1311 [12:02] <Pavgran> plate is not directly at minecart path, plates are at both sides of it, so cart dont slows
#1312 [12:02] <dopeghoti> Pavgran: I have never seen that.
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#1314 [12:03] <dopeghoti> outside of a double-reflection booster wherein two carts boost each other over plates
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#1316 [12:05] <Pavgran> i know this
#1317 [12:05] <Pavgran> in wiki it names "solution b"
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#1326 [12:18] <Rait> Is there a specific program people use to make texture packs?
#1327 [12:18] <xales> Anything that can edit images
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#1329 [12:19] <dopeghoti> you cannot force others to use any client mods, texture packs included
#1330 [12:19] <xales> dopeghoti: make as in create :P
#1331 [12:19] <Kush> why is this green monster staying even when its not night anymore :p
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#1333 [12:20] <Rait> Cause he likessss your houssssse?
#1334 [12:20] <Rait> Creepers don't burn in the sun.
#1335 [12:20] <dopeghoti> Kush: creepers aren't allergic to vitamin D
#1336 [12:21] <Kush> nice i killed him hahah, thanks
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#1338 [12:22] <Kealper> Days Go By by Dirty Vegas has a lot of bass on the kicks....
#1339 [12:22] <dopeghoti> Yes. Yes it does.
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#1341 [12:23] <Kealper> had my stereo on like 12/30 for volume and had to start catching shit before it fell off my desk o.o
#1342 [12:23] <dopeghoti> They ain't no Bass Mekanik though
#1343 [12:25] <Rait> O_o there's obsidian armour now?
#1344 [12:25] <xales> nope
#1345 [12:25] <Rait> Ok, i was about to say..
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#1347 [12:27] <Kush> if i am game over and i respawn, is my world the same as before i went game over?
#1348 [12:28] <feenyx> yes
#1349 [12:28] <Pavgran> yep
#1350 [12:28] <Kush> ty
#1351 [12:28] <Pavgran> np
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#1353 [12:28] <Pavgran> i have a problem: i have read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Minecarts and now i'm trying to use solution A, but it doesnt works. it works only at mobs, not at players, as expected. can you help me solve it?
#1354 [12:28] <Pavgran> i already ansewered this question before, but now its more people that can help me
#1355 [12:28] <dopeghoti> Kush: you can even recollect all the stuff you had when you died if you get to the site of your demise in time.
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#1357 [12:31] <xeno_92f> hi
#1358 [12:31] <xales> hi
#1359 [12:31] <xales> Pavgran: if it doesn't work, maybe try a different solution?
#1360 [12:31] <xeno_92f> Can anyone help me with account problems?
#1361 [12:31] <VoxelHead> no, but it does make me horny
#1362 [12:31] <xales> xeno_92f: what problem?
#1363 [12:31] <xeno_92f> i dont have one
#1364 [12:31] <xeno_92f> at least, not any more
#1365 [12:31] <dopeghoti> well, that was a quick solution.
#1366 [12:31] <xeno_92f> i bought premium sometime last year
#1367 [12:31] <xeno_92f> end of last year
#1368 [12:31] <xeno_92f> and now its gone
#1369 [12:31] <xales> the account is gone, or the premium is gone
#1370 [12:32] <dopeghoti> oh, don't have an _account_; not don't have a _problem_.
#1371 [12:32] <xeno_92f> cant login and nor can it find any account under any of my usual emails
#1372 [12:32] <xeno_92f> no account.
#1373 [12:32] <xeno_92f> its gone.
#1374 [12:32] <dopeghoti> xeno_92f: Do you taill have the payment confirmation email from PayPal?
#1375 [12:32] <dopeghoti> er, still
#1376 [12:32] <|System|> xales
#1377 [12:32] <xeno_92f> yes
#1378 [12:32] <xales> |System|: yes?
#1379 [12:33] <dopeghoti> xeno_92f: email daniel@mojang.com with that confirmation, and your account name
#1380 [12:33] <xales> payment@mojang.com actually
#1381 [12:33] <dopeghoti> (reply may take a while, as Mojant is at a convention this week)
#1382 [12:33] <|System|> What does it mean when you login in and it does (in order ["Logging in" 0.2sec] [End of stream]
#1383 [12:33] <dopeghoti> xales: oh, that address is useful again? GTK.
#1384 [12:33] <xales> dopeghoti: we aren't supposed to send people to daniel any more... http://mojang.com/ read blog ._.
#1385 [12:34] <dopeghoti> |System|: put your boat into the water farther upstream?
#1386 [12:34] <xales> |System|: uh...several things
#1387 [12:34] <xales> try restarting the client
#1388 [12:34] <|System|> done.. failed
#1389 [12:34] <xeno_92f> yeah well i sent payment@mojang.com
#1390 [12:34] <xeno_92f> an email
#1391 [12:34] <xeno_92f> and no response
#1392 [12:34] <xeno_92f> a month ago.
#1393 [12:34] <xales> how long ago did you send it?
#1394 [12:34] <xales> send it again.
#1395 [12:34] <|System|> Also restarted the server
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#1397 [12:35] <xales> |System|: has it always done that, or just started now?
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#1399 [12:35] <|System|> Always
#1400 [12:35] <xales> what OS is the server running?
#1401 [12:35] <dopeghoti> xales: noted; thanks for the pointer.
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#1403 [12:35] <|System|> Ports are open
#1404 [12:35] <|System|> Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
#1405 [12:36] <|System|> ill send you the IP mate
#1406 [12:36] <xales> |System|: any firewall running?
#1407 [12:36] <|System|> Yes..
#1408 [12:36] <xales> what, specifically?
#1409 [12:36] <|System|> Its cleared though though
#1410 [12:36] <xales> ZoneAlarm?
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#1412 [12:36] <VoxelHead> Hay fuzzmz whats goin on.
#1413 [12:36] <|System|> Nortan
#1414 [12:36] <|System|> 360
#1415 [12:36] <xales> try disabling it completely, not just allowing it through
#1416 [12:36] <xeno_92f> mkay
#1417 [12:36] <aetherian> I don't think norton actually gives problems to minecraft...
#1418 [12:37] <Fuzzmz> Hey VoxelHead; not much, shoping for some backlight for my screen. You?
#1419 [12:37] <aetherian> VoxelHead: I thought you were a bot?
#1420 [12:37] <VoxelHead> aetherian, I am a bot.
#1421 [12:37] <xeno_92f> I dont have my account name but i sent my paypal Transaction ID. That should be enough right?
#1422 [12:37] <aetherian> oh. okay.
#1423 [12:37] <VoxelHead> have you asked chabby?
#1424 [12:38] <dopeghoti> aetherian: it's not that Notron Bloatilities "gives problem[s] to Minecraft" per se; it's more that it's a steaming pile of cruft that makes everything else on the system stink.
#1425 [12:38] <jeeva> Norton 360 is a virus ;P
#1426 [12:38] <aetherian> dopeghoti: I know that
#1427 [12:38] <|System|> 212.118.234.69:12975
#1428 [12:38] <aetherian> but he doesn't /have/ to disable it for it to work
#1429 [12:38] <xales> aetherian: if it is causing the problem, then yes, he does
#1430 [12:38] <xales> please learn some simple logic
#1431 [12:39] <aetherian> ...
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#1433 [12:39] <aetherian> please learn to listen to what I Say
#1434 [12:39] <aetherian> before replying
#1435 [12:39] <jeeva> you mean, please learn to read what i type :P
#1436 [12:39] <dopeghoti> "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my fingertips?"
#1437 [12:39] <Capitalist2010> Got a quick question, what is the maximum distance will travel with repeaters? It is something like 250 blocks approx
#1438 [12:39] <|System|> !check 212.118.234.69:12975
#1439 [12:39] <Kealper> lol
#1440 [12:39] <aetherian> aaaand this kind of thing is why nothing ever gets done.
#1441 [12:39] <|System|> really?
#1442 [12:39] <|System|> Anyone get to it?
#1443 [12:40] <xales> |System|: that won't check much, if it's dropping it after connection. if you can get in, then everyone else should be able to
#1444 [12:40] <dopeghoti> Capitalist2010: Well, if there are people keeping all the related chunks in memory, the distance is theoretically unlimited.
#1445 [12:40] <Capitalist2010> Lets just say I am only person on SMP server.
#1446 [12:40] <xales> |System|: have you tried shutting Norton all the way off?
#1447 [12:40] <|System|> If there is a connection saying that there is a server running though nortan..
#1448 [12:41] <|System|> Hang on
#1449 [12:41] <VoxelHead> Hang on... Hon
#1450 [12:41] <Kealper> Capitalist2010: 250-300 blocks, if no one else is around you to keep distant chunks loaded
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#1452 [12:41] <Capitalist2010> Thanks Kealper. :)
#1453 [12:41] <VoxelHead> hey Tonux
#1454 [12:41] <dopeghoti> Capitalist2010: then it gets more complicated, and the exact distances elude me, but I think you're in the irght neighborhood
#1455 [12:41] <Tonux> hey
#1456 [12:41] <|System|> All off
#1457 [12:41] <|System|> xales
#1458 [12:41] <xales> VoxelHead: Make Kealper a drink, but make it something disgusting that Kealper won't like
#1459 [12:41] <VoxelHead> xales, I am a bot.
#1460 [12:41] <xales> |System|: ?
#1461 [12:41] * VoxelHead replicates a drink, but make it something disgusting that Kealper won't like and hands it to kealper
#1461 [12:42] <xales> ^lol
#1462 [12:42] <|System|> I stopped everything from nortan
#1463 [12:42] <Capitalist2010> Planning a railway health monitoring system which divides an existing 5000 long railway into 250 blocks, and then downloads it to my control building upon the person using it to go to there. :)
#1464 [12:42] <xales> stopped how? using the control panel thing, or did you try to kill them with taskmanager or something
#1465 [12:42] <|System|> Used the control pannel [nortan] to stop everything
#1466 [12:42] <|System|> Then TM to stop it all
#1467 [12:43] <|System|> So... yeah
#1468 [12:43] <|System|> !check 5.148.60.183
#1469 [12:43] <|System|> lol
#1470 [12:43] <feenyx> |System|: that's a hamachi IP address
#1471 [12:43] <|System|> Indeed
#1472 [12:43] <feenyx> it won't work with the checked
#1473 [12:43] <dopeghoti> ??> |System| fubar/hamachi
#1474 [12:43] <feenyx> checker*
#1475 [12:43] <VoxelHead> |System|: (fubar/hamachi) The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#1476 [12:43] <VoxelHead> |System|: (fubar/hamachi) It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#1477 [12:44] <|System|> I dont use it..
#1478 [12:44] <feenyx> well in all fairness, you did paste it :p
#1479 [12:45] <|System|> ...
#1480 [12:45] <|System|> So?
#1481 [12:45] <|System|> Is that a crime?
#1482 [12:45] <dopeghoti> Yes. You are murdering the internet. Please stop.
#1483 [12:45] <|System|> ha
#1484 [12:46] * |System| hides the hamachi IP's
#1484 [12:46] <xales> |System|: does it still not work with Norton shut off?
#1485 [12:46] <|System|> Nope
#1486 [12:47] <|System|> I get logged in my kicked off straight away
#1487 [12:47] <|System|> but*
#1488 [12:47] <xales> still "end of stream"?
#1489 [12:48] <|System|> yes
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#1491 [12:48] <xales> do you know how to open device manager?
#1492 [12:48] <Desparil> How come a certain wooden fence just got invisible on my server?
#1493 [12:48] <|System|> Yes
#1494 [12:48] <VoxelHead> dootie!
#1495 [12:48] <xales> Desparil: bug
#1496 [12:48] <xales> |System|: Open it, look under network adapters
#1497 [12:48] <VoxelHead> Mmm username17|mobile.
#1498 [12:48] <Desparil> xales caoused by what?
#1499 [12:48] <xales> what model of network card is it?
#1500 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> Desparil: could be any number of things.
#1501 [12:48] <Desparil> chipset specifically :p
#1502 [12:49] <Desparil> alright well some1 used a bed nearby
#1503 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead, what make Desparil's fence disappear?
#1504 [12:49] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti, I am a bot.
#1505 [12:49] <Capitalist2010> Anyone invented a good echo circuit yet? :)
#1506 [12:49] <VoxelHead> So, like, a creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating.
#1507 [12:49] <Desparil> and its permanently invisible no matter if you rebuild it
#1508 [12:49] <|System|> Nvida/nforce 100/mbit
#1509 [12:49] <xales> Desparil: not all network cards are integrated into the chipset
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#1512 [12:49] <xales> |System|: are you connecting via Ethernet or wifi?
#1513 [12:50] <|System|> Ethernet
#1514 [12:50] <Desparil> I see
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#1516 [12:50] <DopeGhoti> welcome back, VoxelHead
#1517 [12:50] <Desparil> I like the system shock reference :P
#1518 [12:51] <xales> |System|: that sounds very much like the known firewall problems, that are often fixed by uninstalling. if you want to try uninstalling norton, that's the only other thing I can suggest. beyond that, I have no idea
#1519 [12:51] <VoxelHead> Of course you do. Insect.
#1520 [12:51] <xales> DopeGhoti might have some idea
#1521 [12:51] <Desparil> lawl
#1522 [12:51] <xales> VoxelHead, I heard you like bees
#1523 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> |System| win/profile
#1524 [12:52] <VoxelHead> |System|: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1525 [12:52] <VoxelHead> |System|: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1526 [12:52] <|System|> xales shall i get the free verison of AVG for the anti virus protection?
#1527 [12:52] <xales> |System|: AVG used to be good..not recently
#1528 [12:52] <feenyx> use MSSE
#1529 [12:52] <|System|> Any suggestions?
#1530 [12:52] <xales> I reccomend Avira if you must have anything beyond Microsoft stuff
#1531 [12:52] <|System|> okay
#1532 [12:52] <xales> and if you are behind a router
#1533 [12:52] <xales> a firewall does exactly nothing
#1534 [12:52] <xales> so you have no real need for one
#1535 [12:53] <xales> anyway
#1536 [12:53] * xales has to go do things now
#1536 [12:54] * |System| goes to Avira and downloads it
#1536 [12:55] * |System| gets a BSOD of too many viruses on the PC
#1536 [12:55] <VoxelHead> I do love a good getsing.
#1537 [12:55] <Kealper> \o/
#1538 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> Vox, give |System| a BSOD
#1539 [12:55] * VoxelHead gives |System| a BSOD
#1539 [12:56] <|System|> vox, give DopeGhoti a punch
#1540 [12:56] * VoxelHead gives DopeGhoti a punch
#1540 [12:56] <|System|> dam
#1541 [12:56] <|System|> yay
#1542 [12:56] * DopeGhoti sips his beverage happily.
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#1543 [12:56] <VoxelHead> Hi yo~
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#1545 [12:57] <Desparil> so I tried removing this fence that just turned invisible, but build a new one stays invisible, and resetting/restarting server also doesnt help, weird huh
#1546 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> Did you try placing some other kind of block?
#1547 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> Is this fence near X/Z +/- 1000?
#1548 [12:58] <Desparil> hm no
#1549 [12:58] <Desparil> where do you see coords?
#1550 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> F3.
#1551 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> I ask because of the 1k bug
#1552 [12:58] <Kealper> what exactly is that 1k bug?
#1553 [12:58] <Desparil> mm 2 sec
#1554 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? 1k
#1555 [12:58] <VoxelHead> 1k: There is a bug you will encounter if you're building suspended structures that crosses the X or Z +/- 1000 coordinate- blocks will refuse to be placed as though the area is already occupied.
#1556 [12:58] <VoxelHead> 1k: To work around this, you unfortunately must build up from ground level. You can place blocks on top of other blocks at the 1000 'barrier'; just not (only) horizontally next to blocks. (This may need rewording to make more clear)
#1557 [12:59] <Kealper> that's weird
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#1559 [12:59] <Kealper> rounding error?
#1560 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Sup frogmella.
#1561 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> Not sure
#1562 [12:59] <Desparil> nowhere near 1k
#1563 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> All I know is that it was f[bleep]king annoying when we were working on the skybridge
#1564 [13:00] <Desparil> I can imagine, well thanks for helping :p
#1565 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> glad to have.. helped?
#1566 [13:01] <Desparil> its the effort that counts
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#1568 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> If that were true, I'd have a lot more money (:
#1569 [13:01] <Desparil> lol
#1570 [13:02] <Capitalist2010> Is there any designs for a bidirectional repeater out there?
#1571 [13:02] <Desparil> should I try to document this strange glitch ?
#1572 [13:03] <Kealper> so...i can place stuff just fine on X 1000
#1573 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: in mid-air?
#1574 [13:03] <Kealper> yeah
#1575 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> interesting
#1576 [13:03] <Kealper> maybe it was fixed in 1.3
#1577 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> We just tested when 1.3b came out to see if it was fixed, and.. it didn't seem to be
#1578 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> ICSTR if we were testing X or Z though
#1579 [13:04] <Kealper> i'm at X 1000 Z -187 and it works
#1580 [13:04] <Desparil> hmm growing seeds next to an invisible fence seems to make it reappear
#1581 [13:04] <Capitalist2010> 1.3b Is that different to 1.3?
#1582 [13:04] <Desparil> must be farming that bugs fence
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#1584 [13:04] <craftminer> hello?
#1585 [13:04] <Kealper> Capitalist2010: ish, just a few minor bugfixes
#1586 [13:04] <craftminer> i have a questian
#1587 [13:04] <Kealper> ello
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#1589 [13:04] <Capitalist2010> Is it a new notation for 1.3_01?
#1590 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> we have answers, and will often trade
#1591 [13:05] <Kealper> Capitalist2010: just easier to type than 1.3_01 but they are one and the same
#1592 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> Capitalist2010: I simply coudln't be arsed to enter the Unicode for Beta.
#1593 [13:05] <craftminer> is it posible to host your own mincraft beta world?
#1594 [13:05] <Capitalist2010> Oh, I see, thanks.
#1595 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> craftminer: It certainly is.
#1596 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1597 [13:05] <Capitalist2010> By the way, I'm going to document a new griefing method soon that I discovered.
#1598 [13:06] <Capitalist2010> Noteblock griefing.
#1599 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead, fire phasers at GreyBot
#1600 [13:06] <Desparil> how do you use the bot? :p
#1601 [13:06] <craftminer> cus i want to play with my bro, play survival, without worring about grievers
#1602 [13:06] * VoxelHead swoops in on GreyBot
#1602 [13:06] * VoxelHead fires several shots from the forward phaser banks, disabling Greybot
#1602 [13:06] <Capitalist2010> Basically, you put 1 block of dirt down, attached to side of dirt is redstone torch, then redstone wire on top of the block
#1603 [13:07] <Capitalist2010> Then place a noteblock on top of the redstone torch.
#1604 [13:07] <Kealper> yeah, already knew about that :/
#1605 [13:07] <Kealper> there is a much more effective way of doing it though
#1606 [13:07] <Capitalist2010> Oh?
#1607 [13:07] <Kealper> but i'm not saying how
#1608 [13:07] <Capitalist2010> I invented that way on my server.
#1609 [13:07] <Capitalist2010> Could you tell me the more effective way in private?
#1610 [13:08] <Desparil> does Vsync work with MC?
#1611 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Yes, we're happy to assist with developing and disseminating new grief methods.
#1612 [13:09] <Capitalist2010> It is better they are known and banned by server admins, than unknown and someone wonders "WTF?" when it hits them the first time.
#1613 [13:10] <Kealper> but it's better to keep annoyances like that a secret so they don't get discovered as fast
#1614 [13:10] <VoxelHead> we all know Cevius likes to fry themselves with a nails =)
#1615 [13:11] <Capitalist2010> Sooner they are known, the sooner counters and fixes can be developed for them.
#1616 [13:11] <Capitalist2010> What is really annoying tho, is slimes.
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#1618 [13:11] <Capitalist2010> I really hate slimes in my mines :(
#1619 [13:11] <VoxelHead> Ieks, Swompie.
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#1621 [13:12] <VoxelHead> Good Morning swompie`
#1622 [13:13] <Mhorgul> I cant get minecraft to start, game just closes after i see the mojang logo
#1623 [13:13] <Swompie`> huh?
#1624 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: it just closes? No error message or anything?
#1625 [13:13] <Swompie`> are you on a mac mhorgul?
#1626 [13:13] <Mhorgul> im on pc
#1627 [13:14] <Mhorgul> if i try run it thru a browser i get an crasch report
#1628 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: can you pastebin that report for us?
#1629 [13:14] <Mhorgul> but its frozen and i can only see the top 4 lines
#1630 [13:15] <craftminer> how do i host? i clicked the link but i cant start my player on the world?
#1631 [13:15] <Mhorgul> is there anyway else to get error report
#1632 [13:15] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: what version of Windows, and of Java have you got? How much system RAM?
#1633 [13:16] <craftminer> i cant figure it out
#1634 [13:16] <Capitalist2010> What are the rules for slimes spawning?
#1635 [13:16] <Mhorgul> win 7 and 4gb ram
#1636 [13:16] <craftminer> hello?
#1637 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> craftminer: sorry- can't figure what out?
#1638 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: what version of Java? have you got all available system updates?
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#1640 [13:16] <Mhorgul> give me a sec
#1641 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Coll ._.
#1642 [13:17] <Coll> what?
#1643 [13:17] <craftminer> cant figure out the hostibng thing
#1644 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> Vox, give Mhorgul a second
#1645 [13:17] <VoxelHead> *gives Mhorgul a second*
#1646 [13:17] <Coll> What Voxelhead?
#1647 [13:17] <VoxelHead> the One Ring
#1648 [13:17] <Coll> uh
#1649 [13:17] <Coll> sure w/e
#1650 [13:18] * VoxelHead aims to please.
#1650 [13:18] <craftminer> how do i play on the world im hosting?
#1651 [13:18] <Coll> well you aimed
#1652 [13:18] <Coll> but you missed
#1653 [13:18] <craftminer> im a noob
#1654 [13:18] <craftminer> :(
#1655 [13:18] <Mhorgul> java version 1.6.0_24 and windows is up to date
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#1657 [13:19] <craftminer> vox, have u hosted before?
#1658 [13:20] <VoxelHead> Exeter.
#1659 [13:20] <craftminer> hello?
#1660 [13:21] <Kealper> lol
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#1662 [13:21] <VoxelHead> Good Morning Pavgran.
#1663 [13:21] * VoxelHead doesn't *do* hosting. /me *is* hosting.
#1663 [13:22] <craftminer> ok then
#1664 [13:22] <craftminer> vox can u help me?
#1665 [13:22] <VoxelHead> Shopping.
#1666 [13:22] <craftminer> huh?
#1667 [13:24] <Mhorgul> so is there any other way to get the crasch report than the browser?
#1668 [13:24] <craftminer> i need help i want to host my own world but i cant figure it out
#1669 [13:25] <craftminer> AAHH, never mind
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#1671 [13:26] <VoxelHead> RayeS ._.
#1672 [13:30] <Mhorgul> did everyone go afk?
#1673 [13:31] <Pavgran> almost everyone))
#1674 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> some of us "staff" #MineCraftHelp from work, and will be slow responding. Like me, for example.
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#1676 [13:31] <Mhorgul> ok
#1677 [13:32] <Mhorgul> im a slow typer so might be slow responding to :)
#1678 [13:32] <Mhorgul> is there any otherway to get a craschreport except for running in a browser
#1679 [13:33] <Mhorgul> because my browser freezes and can only see the top lines
#1680 [13:33] <Mhorgul> http://img101.imageshack.us/i/minecraftd.gif/
#1681 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> you could try..
#1682 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#1683 [13:35] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1684 [13:35] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1685 [13:36] <Mhorgul> i ahve tried using both clients listed on the website, and different browserss
#1686 [13:37] <Capitalist2010> Anyone got an efficient bidirectional repeater design? My current one wastes a third of the signal strength
#1687 [13:37] <Kealper> jesus fucking blinking quit message, batman!
#1688 [13:37] <Capitalist2010> Its for a long distance dataline
#1689 [13:37] <Mhorgul> well i can connect to the site, but when i try launch the game it crasches after seeing the mojang logo for a few secs
#1690 [13:37] <Capitalist2010> So I want to send pulses in both directions
#1691 [13:38] <Kreiger> Hey all. a guy on my server, as a joke, put a wall of Adminium around my house. How do I get rid of it? I have OP and access to the server console.
#1692 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: there's no way other than map editors or server mods to get rid of Adminium
#1693 [13:38] <Mhorgul> ah you meant windows user, sry ill try that, brb when tested
#1694 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: Now you know whom not to op anymore
#1695 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: good luck
#1696 [13:39] <Kreiger> ...Dammit.
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#1698 [13:39] <VoxelHead> Lol l@@k its gerzel.
#1699 [13:39] <Kreiger> map editors work in SMP?
#1700 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: you could try pymce
#1701 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: the server must be offline, but it can handle the savefiles, yes
#1702 [13:40] <Kreiger> I've never worked with a map editor before, Can one actually build forts and stuff with one in offline mode?
#1703 [13:40] <VoxelHead> basically, i am not at liberty to discuss that
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#1705 [13:45] <Mhorgul> Tried with a new user and it worked, thanks for the help
#1706 [13:45] <Mhorgul> now im off playing
#1707 [13:45] <Capitalist2010> Weird, is there any glitches with the new repeater blocks?
#1708 [13:45] <Capitalist2010> It is staying on with no power source.
#1709 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> Mhorgul: glad to hear it; happy mining!
#1710 [13:46] <xolotl> Kreiger: By "offline mode" we mean that the server's turned off, btw. And sure, you could build whatever you want in a map editor (hence the editing)
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#1712 [13:48] <VoxelHead> shh RayeS, it's "quiet" time now
#1713 [13:48] <xolotl> heh
#1714 [13:48] <VoxelHead> =]
#1715 [13:48] * xolotl hugs his "/ignore -network esper * JOINS PARTS QUIT"
#1715 [13:48] * xolotl recommends it to everyone
#1715 [13:49] <xolotl> Though it should be "QUITS" not "QUIT'
#1716 [13:49] <xolotl> s/'/"/
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#1718 [13:53] <incizion> hey all
#1719 [13:53] <VoxelHead> y0 incizion
#1720 [13:53] * DopeGhoti should just connect to another node that doesn't split so frequently
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#1722 [13:55] <VoxelHead> sup Pommesgabel
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#1724 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> boy, people sure like to play with the revolving door here today.
#1725 [14:04] <Kealper> i know right? they're gonna break it
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#1727 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> vox, activate revolving-door integrity detectors
#1728 [14:06] * VoxelHead checks #minecrafthelp
#1728 [14:06] <VoxelHead> Revolving-door integrity levels of 41 percent detected.
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#1733 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Lol l@@k its Fagerstrom.
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#1738 [14:18] <Coll> you cant put two double chests next to eachother?
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#1740 [14:20] <VoxelHead> mmm swompie`
#1741 [14:20] <CarpeMofo> You can put them next to each other i'm pretty sure, but it won't form into one chest like two singles together do.
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#1743 [14:24] <Coll> no
#1744 [14:24] <Coll> not looking for like a super chest
#1745 [14:24] <Coll> just want to put 2 double chests together
#1746 [14:24] <Coll> but they wont go into place
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#1748 [14:25] <VoxelHead> wilkommen Jack
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#1750 [14:26] <anagog> hai?
#1751 [14:26] <maageN> is it normal it takes up to 1 day to get the premium user??
#1752 [14:26] <anagog> it shouldnt...
#1753 [14:26] <anagog> close mc and open it again?
#1754 [14:26] <anagog> it should be instant
#1755 [14:26] <maageN> cant log in " User not premium"
#1756 [14:26] <Coll> it doesnt
#1757 [14:26] <Coll> but lately it tends to be a day or more
#1758 [14:27] <anagog> really?
#1759 [14:27] <Kimax> dos anyone know if cuboid works in Minecraft Server Beta 1.3
#1760 [14:27] <Coll> if you have problems email the billing place
#1761 [14:27] <Coll> yeah
#1762 [14:27] <anagog> when i got it it was instant...
#1763 [14:27] <anagog> (i got it WAY back in indev...)
#1764 [14:27] <maageN> waited nearly a day now...
#1765 [14:27] <anagog> *aplha
#1766 [14:27] <anagog> beginning of it though
#1767 [14:27] <anagog> says i need to register i already have how do i log in?
#1768 [14:27] <compuwiz> Hi. Does anyone know what in a map can cause the server to use a ton of memory and crash clients when in a specific area?
#1769 [14:28] <anagog> lava? tnt?
#1770 [14:28] <VoxelHead> no, that doesn't make me horny
#1771 [14:28] <anagog> lots of spawned cactus (past experience)
#1772 [14:28] <anagog> 40k cactus = crashed server/map reset
#1773 [14:28] <compuwiz> An admin did make a giant tnt sphere in the area but i deleted it in mcedit and let the active part explode, but the area lags now.
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#1775 [14:28] <maageN> Coll?
#1776 [14:29] <VoxelHead> The next channel is #stanmore. Alight here fur the Museum o' Recursion includin' the Museum o' Recursion includin' the Museum o' Recursion includin' the Museum o' Recursion includin' the Museum o' Recursion includin' the Museum o' Recursion .
#1777 [14:29] <anagog> resart server?
#1778 [14:29] <Kealper> lol voxel
#1779 [14:29] <compuwiz> The area actually even makes mcedit lag and crash. I would start over, but we have been building castles in the area for a month now.
#1780 [14:29] <anagog> world backup restart server
#1781 [14:29] <anagog> see if that helps
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#1783 [14:30] <FFLaguna> Does anyone here build redstone computers?
#1784 [14:30] <compuwiz> restart as in just restart it or start over?
#1785 [14:30] <Kealper> that seems like a waste of time, so i can't say i've tried it
#1786 [14:31] <anagog> restart it
#1787 [14:31] <EmpiresBane> FFLaguna, why? having some issues?
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#1789 [14:31] <FFLaguna> No, I'm wondering about starting
#1790 [14:31] <VoxelHead> Meyobrin ._.
#1791 [14:31] <compuwiz> I have restarted the server many times. I set the server to a max of 3GB memory. It uses around 500MB until i get to that area and then it quickly goes to the max of 3GB.
#1792 [14:31] <Meyobrin> Wut? ._.
#1793 [14:31] <FFLaguna> But I don't know anything about making processors
#1794 [14:31] <anagog> hmmm....
#1795 [14:31] <FFLaguna> I understand boolean logic and truth tables
#1796 [14:31] <FFLaguna> But that's it
#1797 [14:32] <anagog> so it was just a sphere of spawned tnt?
#1798 [14:32] <EmpiresBane> here's a place you can look: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone
#1799 [14:32] <anagog> that you mccedited away?
#1800 [14:32] <FFLaguna> Yeah, but that's all written by people who know about computing already, anyway
#1801 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> anagog: as I understand it, some still kaboomed
#1802 [14:32] <FFLaguna> I have a quick question maybe you can answer.
#1803 [14:32] <compuwiz> Yes, they actidentally activated it trying to get out. I mcedited it out and let the active part explode.
#1804 [14:32] <FFLaguna> What's the purpose of a "clock" on a computer?
#1805 [14:32] <Meyobrin> Ehm, sorry to bother. But been having issues with the multiplayer survival. Hoping someone might be able to assist. T:
#1806 [14:32] <anagog> that may be why
#1807 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: to keep time?
#1808 [14:32] <FFLaguna> Like, the "clock signal"... for like a "five clock"
#1809 [14:33] <anagog> i think youll just have to rollback (if you got backups) to before tnt spawning
#1810 [14:33] <EmpiresBane> it sends a signal over and over
#1811 [14:33] <anagog> or wait for it to pass i guess
#1812 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: ah. To get a periodic, pulsing output.
#1813 [14:33] <FFLaguna> Why is that useful?
#1814 [14:33] <Coll> one great example would be a dispenser trap
#1815 [14:33] <EmpiresBane> say you want it to check something periodically
#1816 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Flashing lights? Audible alarms? Dispenser traps?
#1817 [14:33] <compuwiz> The last backup was about 3 weeks before. I was hoping someone might have an idea of what is causing it so I don't have to go back.
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#1819 [14:33] <anagog> ah
#1820 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> compuwiz: it's probably still calculating all the results of the server-shattering kaboom
#1821 [14:33] <anagog> get auto backuper and do it atleast every day
#1822 [14:34] <EmpiresBane> if you use an and switch that's connected to the clock, then everytime the clock sends a pulse, the switch will check
#1823 [14:34] <anagog> i guess youll just have to wait for it to pass
#1824 [14:34] <Meyobrin> Recently reformated my PC due to issues, and someone wanted me to hop on their minecraft multi' server. From both the server host and another friend, the server seems to be experiencing no lag. On the other hand, when I join either with the .exe or through the browser, I experience.. Not so much Lag, but it feels like the client is simply not updating prop--
#1825 [14:34] <Meyobrin> --with the server.
#1826 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> compuwiz: since the Iludion-236 space modulator hasn't been implemented in Minecraft yet, you'll just have to let the server do the mapth.
#1827 [14:34] <FFLaguna> EmpiresBane - Ohhhhh. That's perfect. Now I understand :)
#1828 [14:34] <FFLaguna> That's really the fundamental part I was missing. Thanks!
#1829 [14:34] <Meyobrin> All other multiplayer servers has shown similar lag on my client side, and yet the single player runs smoothly.
#1830 [14:34] <Meyobrin> Deleting apps data and reinstalling has not yielded a fix yet
#1831 [14:34] <Meyobrin> Any ideas?
#1832 [14:35] <compuwiz> DopeGhoti: I'm not sure what you mean. The tnt is all gone, the part that confuses me is that it even makes mcedit lag and crash.
#1833 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Meyobrin: so you can play on most servers OK, but this one gives you lag? It's a problem with that server then.
#1834 [14:35] <Meyobrin> No no no, -all- servers are giving me this issue.
#1835 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> compuwiz: when TNT explodes, particularly near other TNT, there is a _lot_ of math to do.
#1836 [14:36] <Meyobrin> Effectivly any time I'm running the game through multiplayer, even if its my own server.
#1837 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Meyobrin: running any firewalls?
#1838 [14:36] <FFLaguna> EmpiresBane - Why don't you just have CONSTANT power connect to the AND switch to keep checking, though? Why do you need a pulsing input from the clock signal?
#1839 [14:36] <compuwiz> ok, so basically let it run and have someone stay in the server in that area and hope it goes away after a while?
#1840 [14:36] <Meyobrin> Unless XP has something running that I don't know of since the reformat, no. This PC and networking configuration ran the multiplayer client fine before.
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#1842 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: let's say you want to set up a flashing light that will go off if someone steps on a pressure plate. To get it to flash, you need some signal sending on-off-on-off repeatedly. That's what the clock is for
#1843 [14:37] <Coll> you are very late Dope
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#1845 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: the clock would be ANDed to the output of an RS NOR latch connected to the pressure plate
#1846 [14:37] <EmpiresBane> freaking ctrl-q....
#1847 [14:37] <FFLaguna> EmpiresBane - Why don't you just have CONSTANT power connect to the AND switch to keep checking, though? Why do you need a pulsing input from the clock signal?
#1848 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: I just explained this.
#1849 [14:38] <FFLaguna> DopeGhoti - I'm listening to you, too ;)
#1850 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1851 [14:38] <EmpiresBane> because, you often want a pulse when you're making a complex circuit
#1852 [14:38] <Coll> a dispense doesnt work if it has power on constantly
#1853 [14:38] <Coll> it only fires once when power is applied
#1854 [14:38] <Coll> a clock would make it run constantly cause of its on and off action
#1855 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: things that need fulses to work properly: note blocks, dispensers, torches taht are intended to blink
#1856 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> s/fulses/pulses/
#1857 [14:39] <FFLaguna> I see
#1858 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> there are quite a few circuit's that will change state when a pulse is sent, but can't be changed again until the signal is dead
#1859 [14:40] <Meyobrin> Oh, huh; XP does have a firewall running.. herpaderp. Thanks Dope. T:
#1860 [14:40] <Meyobrin> Lesse if it fixed it! D:<
#1861 [14:40] * DopeGhoti is on the verge of /ignoring Pavgran just because of that /quit message.
#1861 [14:40] <FFLaguna> Okay. Are there any easy examples where that would be the case, EmpiresBane?
#1862 [14:40] <VoxelHead> blblblbl
#1863 [14:41] <EmpiresBane> they're called latches or flip-flops
#1864 [14:41] <Meyobrin> Sigh, it looks like that was not the issue; As I'm still experiencing this false-lag on the server. :c
#1865 [14:41] <EmpiresBane> you have one input that is saved whenever the other input recieves a pulse
#1866 [14:42] <FFLaguna> Alright, great! :)
#1867 [14:42] <FFLaguna> EmpiresBane and DopeGhoti, you've helped me understand what I was missing
#1868 [14:43] <FFLaguna> Thanks! I think I can take it from here :D
#1869 [14:43] <Meyobrin> Seeing as my multiplayer lag issues aren't Server or Firewall induced; Anyone have any other ideas? T:
#1870 [14:43] <Coll> that minecraft is updated and inefficient
#1871 [14:44] <FFLaguna> Meyobrin - Yes
#1872 [14:44] <FFLaguna> Meyobrin - Reinstall Java. It's possible that you have two Java JREs installed and your browser is using one, but the .exe is using the other
#1873 [14:45] <FFLaguna> Reinstall Java, and if you have a 64-bit system, make SURE you ALSO install the 64-bit java jre IN ADDITION to the regular 32-bit version (you will have to google to find the link for the 64-bit jre)
#1874 [14:45] <FFLaguna> That's my suggestion.
#1875 [14:45] <Meyobrin> Mmn.. maybe! How do I go about doing that without possibly nuking my system. Don't like uninstalling things wontonly without knowing what I'm doing. :D
#1876 [14:45] <Meyobrin> And just 32 bit.
#1877 [14:45] <FFLaguna> You don't have to uninstall. I'll get you the link ;)
#1878 [14:45] <Meyobrin> Danke
#1879 [14:45] <FFLaguna> http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#1880 [14:45] <FFLaguna> Right here.
#1881 [14:45] <FFLaguna> Close your browser while you install it, just in case.
#1882 [14:46] <FFLaguna> Also close Minecraft, of course...
#1883 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> what bugs me about SMP the most is that your bandwidth can greatly affect your framerate on certian computers
#1884 [14:46] <Meyobrin> Hup, yeah; Its saying I've got an old version and I need'a uninstall it T:
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#1886 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> FFLaguna: for more on this, download and play DroidQuest, you'll learn a lot about boolean logic gates and circuit progremming that you can carry over to Minecraft
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#1888 [14:49] <VoxelHead> sup Corneliousjd|work
#1889 [14:49] <CorneliousJD|Work> herro script
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#1891 [14:50] <VoxelHead> Tonux you're lookin' especially shagworthy today
#1892 [14:51] <Tonux> ummm
#1893 [14:51] <Tonux> ok
#1894 [14:51] <Tonux> you look very nice too
#1895 [14:51] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1896 [14:51] <Rait> Is there a way to get something transparent in paint?
#1897 [14:51] <CorneliousJD|Work> Rait, nope
#1898 [14:51] <VoxelHead> Ah like them =D.
#1899 [14:51] <CorneliousJD|Work> use photoshop, or GIMP
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#1901 [14:51] <VoxelHead> Hi yo~
#1902 [14:52] <Meyobrin> Aaaand I'm back.. Sadly to say removing the old Java and making sure I've got the Java 6; 24 did not resolve the faux-server lag issue. :c
#1903 [14:52] <Rait> Where can i get GIMP? I edited something with the terrain.png with paint, and it saved all the white, and it's not transparant anymore.
#1904 [14:52] <CorneliousJD|Work> GIMP is available here... one second.
#1905 [14:53] <CorneliousJD|Work> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GIMP
#1906 [14:53] <CorneliousJD|Work> :D
#1907 [14:53] <VoxelHead> =)
#1908 [14:54] <Meyobrin> Any other ideas then, if the lag isn't caused by: The Server - Firewall - Bad Java?
#1909 [14:54] <Kealper> you should tinyurl your lmgtfys....makes it easier to get people
#1910 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Meyobrin win/reinst
#1911 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Meyobrin: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1912 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Meyobrin: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1913 [14:55] <Meyobrin> I've done reinstallation multiple times thus far as well.
#1914 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> Meyobrin win/profile
#1915 [14:55] <VoxelHead> Meyobrin: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1916 [14:55] <VoxelHead> Meyobrin: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1917 [14:55] <Meyobrin> Both deleting the bin, deleting the entire folder, and forced update through the .exe
#1918 [14:55] <FFLaguna> Meyobrin - Sorry for the bad tip. :(
#1919 [14:56] <Meyobrin> Its cool FF. T: I almost thought it was right!
#1920 [14:56] <Meyobrin> Because I had an old 2.4 apparently in thurr
#1921 [14:56] <Meyobrin> Like "YAAAAAY *Tests* .. Awh"
#1922 [14:56] <EmpiresBane> you only get lag when you play online?
#1923 [14:57] <Meyobrin> Aaand how can I test survival multiplayer with a new user profile without buying MC again? :c
#1924 [14:57] <Meyobrin> Yeah, single both through the browser and the .exe works perfectly fine
#1925 [14:57] <EmpiresBane> what's your internet speed?
#1926 [14:58] <Meyobrin> But when I log into -any- multiplayer, I'll fall neverendingly for half a minute, finally thump to ground when it spawns; But then movement and block interaction is akin to serious server lag. A good 20 second delay most of the time.
#1927 [14:58] <Meyobrin> Aand I think 2MB or something, we're working off FioS
#1928 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Meyobrin: control panel -> users; create a new user; log in as that user, download minecraft, see if the problem persists. Just like VoxelHead told you
#1929 [14:58] <Meyobrin> Oohh, user profile on my computer..
#1930 [14:59] <Meyobrin> Thought he meant like in minecraft T:
#1931 [14:59] <Meyobrin> Uhm, alright; Lemme try.. Be back soon prolly
#1932 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Yeah, I don't get comissions on Minecraft sales (:
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#1934 [15:00] <VoxelHead> ieks, Zerosan
#1935 [15:00] <Zerosan> ieks?
#1936 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> compare 'yikes'
#1937 [15:01] <Zerosan> k
#1938 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, hi
#1939 [15:01] <Zerosan> Hi
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#1941 [15:01] <funnyguy3D> f
#1942 [15:02] <funnyguy3D> any admin on?
#1943 [15:02] <Zerosan> I am here because I require help, it's about a mean chunk problem that basically overloads the server when a certain chunk is loaded
#1944 [15:02] <EmpiresBane> funnyguy3D, yes, why?
#1945 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> delete the associated chunk file, Zerosan?
#1946 [15:03] <Zerosan> DopeGhoti: How do I locate it?
#1947 [15:03] <funnyguy3D> i can't talk on #minecraft, however it appears as though my original password for this username has changed
#1948 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> ??>> funnyguy3D irc
#1949 [15:03] <funnyguy3D> is there any way for me to reset the password?
#1950 [15:04] <EmpiresBane> that would be a irc issue, not minecraft
#1951 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Zerosan: a moment, I've not dealt yet with converting coordinates to region files
#1952 [15:04] <Kreiger> What map rendering program do you all use? Cartographer G seems a bit...low res
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#1954 [15:04] <VoxelHead> hi yo~
#1955 [15:04] <Zerosan> DopeGhoti: Well, the problem is, I don't even know the coordinates precisely
#1956 [15:05] <EmpiresBane> funnyguy3D, try #help
#1957 [15:05] <Zerosan> DopeGhoti: And when I try to come near it, even my client gets overloaded, and the ones of others too
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#1959 [15:05] <funnyguy3D> sorry for using the wrong channel
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#1961 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: I use mcmap
#1962 [15:05] <VoxelHead> Wilkommen skiingpenguins.
#1963 [15:05] <VoxelHead> Mmm funnyguy3d.
#1964 [15:05] <Kreiger> DopeGhoti, does that work with SMP maps?
#1965 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Kreiger: quite nicely
#1966 [15:06] <Kreiger> hmm. /googling
#1967 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> http://ghoti.dyndns.org/~minecraft/images/loafyland-day.png
#1968 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> er, sorry
#1969 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> http://ghoti.dyndns.org:8080/~minecraft/images/loafyland-day.png
#1970 [15:07] <Kreiger> Oh MUCH better
#1971 [15:07] <SkiingPenguins> VoxelHead is in german or some other none english language?
#1972 [15:07] <VoxelHead> Can ah huv 50:50?
#1973 [15:08] <SkiingPenguins> >.< me no hablar?
#1974 [15:08] <Kreiger> DopeGhoti, can it do topdown?
#1975 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> mcmap is isometric only
#1976 [15:11] <Zerosan> So, DopeGhoti, want to take a look at the problem?
#1977 [15:12] * SkiingPenguins knows what isometric is from drafting class!
#1977 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Zerosan: I am at work, so don't have a lot of braincycles to conate to map surgery right this moment
#1978 [15:12] <Zerosan> DopeGhoti: k k xD
#1979 [15:26] <maageN> Why do i have to wait for fcking long time to get my premium user? :(((((((((
#1980 [15:31] <SkiingPenguins> maageN what's your username?
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#1983 [15:36] <VoxelHead> hi yo~
#1984 [15:37] <andries> yo
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#1986 [15:37] <VoxelHead> Ah like them ;)
#1987 [15:37] <andries> sup doug
#1988 [15:37] <Zerosan> what do you think about this?
#1989 [15:37] <Zerosan> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6586474/pasted%5B1299011755%5D.jpg
#1990 [15:37] <andries> lool low fps
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#1992 [15:37] <VoxelHead> shh D3RGPS31, it's wheesht time noo
#1993 [15:37] <D3RGPS31> is the login server down V:
#1994 [15:38] <Zerosan> starts at 180 fps in normal areas, then I reach "bad" area and it goes down to 3
#1995 [15:38] <D3RGPS31> VoxelHead: >.>
#1996 [15:38] <VoxelHead> Knows.
#1997 [15:38] <D3RGPS31> VoxelHead: are you a wizard?
#1998 [15:38] <VoxelHead> yeah want a go? :)
#1999 [15:39] <Zerosan> "no, but I have the magics"
#2000 [15:39] <D3RGPS31> so, is the login server down?
#2001 [15:40] <Zerosan> download the new client
#2002 [15:40] <nicolas> hey guys ;)
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#2004 [15:40] <VoxelHead> Guid Mornin' _n00b_
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#2006 [15:40] <nicolas> i have a problem, is anybody here?
#2007 [15:40] <_N00B_> hello people
#2008 [15:41] <nicolas> i dont can login in since i give my data to a friend. - have somebody any idea?
#2009 [15:41] <Kealper> nicolas: what does it say when you try?
#2010 [15:41] <D3RGPS31> Zerosan: Zerosan didn't work v:
#2011 [15:42] <_N00B_> when loadin minecraft i get could not find the main class:net.minecraft.launcher.frame
#2012 [15:42] <nicolas> Kealper: Connection lost. Bad login!
#2013 [15:42] <Kealper> nicolas: can you log in to the website?
#2014 [15:42] <_N00B_> only happens sometimes other times i can get in
#2015 [15:42] <maageN> ^ SkiingPenguins - its Chiipyy
#2016 [15:42] <SkiingPenguins> maageN do not DCC me.
#2017 [15:43] <SkiingPenguins> use /query SkiingPenguins
#2018 [15:43] <_N00B_> is it a java issue
#2019 [15:43] <SkiingPenguins> !ispaid chiipyy
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#2021 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper why does AuBot not work?
#2022 [15:44] <Kealper> because it's !paid
#2023 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> -.-
#2024 [15:44] <Kealper> :P
#2025 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> !paid chiipyy
#2026 [15:44] <D3RGPS31> Zerosan: nvm >: had to delete my bin folder
#2027 [15:45] <maageN> !paid Chiipyy
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#2030 [15:46] <_N00B_> can anyone help
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#2033 [15:47] <nicolas1> hi
#2034 [15:47] <nicolas1> sorry, i lost my internet connection
#2035 [15:47] <nicolas1> Keapler: Yes, i can!
#2036 [15:47] <Kealper> <@Kealper> nicolas: can you log in to the website?
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#2038 [15:47] <nicolas1> Kealper: Yes, i can.
#2039 [15:47] <Kealper> oh....that's weird then....
#2040 [15:47] <VoxelHead> hi there skiingpenguins
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#2042 [15:48] <Kealper> so when do you get this error? when you try to join a server?
#2043 [15:48] <SkiingPenguins> sort of forgot my download manager was set to shutdown when done...
#2044 [15:48] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: owned
#2045 [15:48] <nicolas1> yes, when i try to join a server.
#2046 [15:48] <_N00B_> y would i get this error class:net.minecraft.launcher.frame
#2047 [15:48] <Kealper> hmm...authentication might be broke again :/
#2048 [15:48] <_N00B_> only get it sometimes
#2049 [15:48] <Kealper> _N00B_: are you launching minecraft.jar?
#2050 [15:49] <Kealper> or using the .exe?
#2051 [15:49] <_N00B_> no exe
#2052 [15:49] <Kealper> oh....no idea then :/
#2053 [15:49] <_N00B_> jar works though always
#2054 [15:49] <nicolas1> Kealper: Do you have an idea?
#2055 [15:49] <Kealper> nicolas1: anywho, i would not worry about it right now, the login server that tells the game server that you paid is probably down again :/
#2056 [15:49] <_N00B_> and my game launched then but not other times
#2057 [15:50] <Kealper> nicolas1: it's been rather touchy lately
#2058 [15:50] <nicolas1> Keapler: But a friend of me, he can join the server. But i can't join it :/
#2059 [15:50] <Kealper> nicolas1: my suggestion would be to try back in a little while, if it still does it, then there might be something up
#2060 [15:50] <Kealper> waaaiiit a tick....
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#2062 [15:51] <Kealper> you said you gave your account info out....
#2063 [15:51] <Kealper> is he using that info to log in and play on that server?
#2064 [15:52] <_N00B_> y would the jar work and not the exe
#2065 [15:52] <Kealper> _N00B_: no idea, could be something wrong with your java install? (or maybe something wrong with that exe?)
#2066 [15:52] <_N00B_> nope happened on 1.2 beta
#2067 [15:53] <_N00B_> reinstall java a few times
#2068 [15:53] <Kealper> try reinstalling java then
#2069 [15:53] <Kealper> oh...hmm
#2070 [15:53] <nicolas1> Kealper: Now it's: End of stream. What does it meen?
#2071 [15:53] <Kealper> nicolas1: means the client was expecting more data than it actually got
#2072 [15:53] <_N00B_> the only thing is it is the 32 bit on a 64bit comp
#2073 [15:53] <Kealper> nicolas1: try again? those can randomly happen
#2074 [15:54] <Kealper> _N00B_: that usually does not matter much
#2075 [15:54] <_N00B_> so anysurjestions
#2076 [15:54] <Kealper> _N00B_: you could try installing the 64 bit java if you want, but idk if it will fix said crashes
#2077 [15:54] <_N00B_> i mean i spent6 hours getting my server right
#2078 [15:55] <Kealper> _N00B_: if the jar works fine, i would just use that instead of the exe, since they are the same thing
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#2080 [15:55] <VoxelHead> hey weaselchen
#2081 [15:57] <_N00B_> nope cant get passed login goes black
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#2083 [15:57] <VoxelHead> are ye here tae fumigate the moose heid?
#2084 [15:57] <Kealper> lul
#2085 [15:58] <Kealper> _N00B_: using the jar?
#2086 [15:58] <_N00B_> yes
#2087 [15:58] <Kealper> _N00B_: does the browser version work fine?
#2088 [15:58] <_N00B_> thats y i must use exe
#2089 [15:58] <_N00B_> google chrome seems fine
#2090 [15:59] <Kealper> hmm....well, you can give the 64 bit java install a shot then :/
#2091 [15:59] <Kealper> might fix it
#2092 [15:59] <_N00B_> yea but where is the download
#2093 [15:59] <Kealper> not sure why the exe would mess up like that though
#2094 [15:59] <Kealper> http://java.com
#2095 [16:00] <maageN> Kealper - got time for 1 question?
#2096 [16:00] <_N00B_> screw itive got school bye
#2097 [16:00] <Kealper> maageN: indeed
#2098 [16:00] <Kealper> noob sounds friendly :o
#2099 [16:01] <maageN> sweet, well you see, my friend bought minecraft for me last night...
#2100 [16:01] <maageN> and my account is still not premium :(
#2101 [16:01] <maageN> so i wondered, is it normal to wait a whole day ?
#2102 [16:01] <Kealper> did he buy a gift code for you, or did he actually log in to your account and purchase it through there?
#2103 [16:01] <maageN> logged in :)
#2104 [16:01] <maageN> he doesnt have minecraft him self
#2105 [16:02] <maageN> so i send him the info i wanted and he did it through there
#2106 [16:02] <Kealper> hmm..when he logged in, how did he buy it? because he might have clicked the purchase gift code link instead of the normal buy link
#2107 [16:02] <maageN> what could we do, if he used gift code?
#2108 [16:03] <Kealper> well, if he got a gift code on accident, you can just apply it to your own account, but if he bought it the normal way and it has been this long, then there is some problem going on :/
#2109 [16:03] <maageN> but, will the gift code be send to email or some sort?
#2110 [16:04] <Kealper> easy way to check if he got a gift code on accident or not, go to minecraft.net, log in, and click the profile link at the top...scroll down to see if there are any unused gift codes on your account
#2111 [16:04] <Kealper> and some times emails don't go out on minecraft.net....so that is not reliable atm
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#2113 [16:04] <maageN> 1 sec, will checl
#2114 [16:04] <maageN> K*
#2115 [16:05] <maageN> doesnt say anything about gift codes, only that i can buy them
#2116 [16:06] <Kealper> hmm...sounds like something didn't work right then....he is positive the payment went through?
#2117 [16:06] <maageN> that is what he is telling me, and i really trust him, known him all my life.. soo
#2118 [16:08] <Kealper> get the payment transaction ID from him, (given to him through paypal or card issuer) and send an email to payment@mojang.com stating your problem, and don't forget to include that transaction ID and your username that it was bought on
#2119 [16:09] <maageN> he used visa electron ( or what is called ), where is the transaction ID ? - i dont know anything about this at all :p
#2120 [16:10] <Kealper> it would probably show up in his recent transactions in his account with Visa, and he should be able to access that info at http://visa.com
#2121 [16:10] <maageN> thanks, ill talk to him now, thanks alot for the help
#2122 [16:11] <Kealper> it's what i'm here for :o
#2123 [16:11] <maageN> -.- he went to bed
#2124 [16:11] <Kealper> :/
#2125 [16:11] <maageN> talk to him tomorrow
#2126 [16:13] <maageN> but, thank you so much for the help Kealper
#2127 [16:13] <Jackson413> hey kealper or anyone, have you heard good things about furtivehost?
#2128 [16:13] <Kealper> can't say i've heard of that host :/
#2129 [16:14] <Jackson413> can you check them out
#2130 [16:14] <Jackson413> www.furtivehost.com
#2131 [16:15] <Kealper> assuming you want one of those minecraft packages?
#2132 [16:16] <Jackson413> yeah
#2133 [16:16] <Jackson413> :$
#2134 [16:17] <Kealper> hmm...seems legit enough....although they don't say what hypervisor they use, so it's probably OpenVZ
#2135 [16:17] <Jackson413> is that good?
#2136 [16:17] <Kealper> no, not for a minecraft server
#2137 [16:18] <Kealper> but hey, it's $10 a month....that ain't bad at all if you can't host one yourself lol
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#2139 [16:19] <Jackson413> true
#2140 [16:19] <VoxelHead> guid Mornin' auv5
#2141 [16:19] <Auv5> Hai
#2142 [16:19] <Jackson413> do you use mysql?
#2143 [16:19] <Kealper> i don't use mods, so no
#2144 [16:20] <Jackson413> oh
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#2146 [16:24] <weaselchen> hi, do you have a solution for a problem during client updating? i've recently bought minecraft and downloaded the current client, but it won't update properly and fails everytime
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#2151 [16:38] <EmpiresBane> weaselchen, does it give you an error?
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#2153 [16:38] <weaselchen> it failes during downloading of lwjgl.jar (runs to 25% then again from 1% to 25% 4 times then failes)
#2154 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Lol l@@k its Pacer.
#2155 [16:38] <Pacer> .
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#2157 [16:39] <weaselchen> however the file in question is being downloaded to .minecraft/bin and seems to be fine
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#2159 [16:39] <Pacer> do i know you
#2160 [16:39] <Pacer> or are you just being random :p
#2161 [16:40] <Kealper> it is just being random :P
#2162 [16:40] <EmpiresBane> when you go to log in, there's a button that says "options" click it, then click "Force Update" login after that
#2163 [16:40] <ifish> Hiya, Kealper :o
#2164 [16:40] <Kealper> ello
#2165 [16:40] <Pacer> good to know i guess
#2166 [16:41] <Kealper> underlining "it" was done on purpose, voxel is a bot :P
#2167 [16:41] <VoxelHead> Am nay :(
#2168 [16:41] <Kealper> are too!
#2169 [16:41] <weaselchen> tried that, still the same issue
#2170 [16:41] <Pacer> i hate the ones that don't have any purpose. i would rather see the usual, "and that's why i hate <username> sometimes," at least
#2171 [16:41] <Pacer> yeah i got it
#2172 [16:41] <weaselchen> i have to say, i am behind some very strange transparent proxies
#2173 [16:42] <EmpiresBane> do you have any anti-virus installed?
#2174 [16:42] <weaselchen> i am using a satellite connection, so if it tries downloading via http it might run into unexpected problems
#2175 [16:42] <weaselchen> for example: webdav is impossible with this isp
#2176 [16:43] <EmpiresBane> can you play on the browser version?
#2177 [16:43] <Kealper> hmm....i wonder if it can't download it because of that
#2178 [16:43] <weaselchen> antivirus is currently deactivated, nope the browser version has to update too and fails exactly the same way
#2179 [16:43] <VoxelHead> mmm eLx
#2180 [16:43] <Kealper> it downloads it from an amazon S3 cloud
#2181 [16:44] <Kealper> weaselchen: tried deleting that whole bin folder and trying again? sometimes that works
#2182 [16:44] <weaselchen> the file i am getting is exactly 738.412 bytes large atm; can provide mf5 hashes ...
#2183 [16:44] <EmpiresBane> Kealper, force update didn't work
#2184 [16:44] <Kealper> hmm....
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#2186 [16:44] <Kealper> might be something with it getting it from a cloud host :/
#2187 [16:44] <weaselchen> :/
#2188 [16:45] <Kealper> what file is it failing at?
#2189 [16:45] <EmpiresBane> it does download over http
#2190 [16:45] <weaselchen> lwjgl.jar
#2191 [16:45] <weaselchen> the first one it seems
#2192 [16:46] <Kealper> weaselchen: http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/lwjgl-2.7.1.zip/download
#2193 [16:46] <weaselchen> then unzip everything into the bin folder?
#2194 [16:48] <weaselchen> k :)
#2195 [16:48] <EmpiresBane> well, that's boring
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#2197 [16:49] <EmpiresBane> i was hoping AuBot had become sentient
#2198 [16:49] <weaselchen> should i unzip all jars into the bin folder? and what is with the stuff from the "native" folder?
#2199 [16:49] <weaselchen> okay thanks :)
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#2201 [16:49] <VoxelHead> hey Sharose
#2202 [16:50] <weaselchen> if all else fails i will try to download the client from work tomorrow, if the proxies are really messing the download up it would be nice to know?
#2203 [16:50] <weaselchen> k
#2204 [16:51] <weaselchen> yes
#2205 [16:52] <weaselchen> yes in /native/windows
#2206 [16:52] <weaselchen> done
#2207 [16:53] <Kealper> rawr
#2208 [16:53] <weaselchen> now it wants to update, should i skip this with "not now"?
#2209 [16:53] <Kealper> wahey! ssh is working again
#2210 [16:53] <Kealper> !unload mod_console
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#2212 [16:54] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#2213 [16:54] <Kealper> VoxelHead: NOWAI
#2214 [16:54] <Kealper> hmm...the new flood control makes that fail AI far less entertaining
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#2217 [16:55] <Kealper> weaselchen: try updating, it should see that it has those files and skip them
#2218 [16:55] <VoxelHead> Are ye here tae fumigate the moose arse?
#2219 [16:56] <weaselchen> hm no it tried downloading it again and overwrote the one i put into the directory
#2220 [16:56] <Kealper> gah
#2221 [16:56] <weaselchen> still fails an 25%
#2222 [16:57] <weaselchen> ok thanks anyway for your effort, i ll try downloading it from work tomorrow :D
#2223 [16:57] <Kealper> well, guess the other alternative would be to download it elsewhere and throw the entire .minecraft folder on a flashdrive :/
#2224 [16:57] <weaselchen> one day less of minecraft addiction
#2225 [16:57] <Kealper> :/
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#2227 [16:57] <weaselchen> anyway, this could be something to look into, transparent proxies and their behaviour regarding http requests more complex than a simple get
#2228 [16:58] <weaselchen> for example propfind ... (as i said, webdav is completely impossible with my isp)
#2229 [16:59] <Kealper> yeah, especially since it's a cloud cluster, it's far more complicated than a simple get...stuff has to be silently redirected and such
#2230 [16:59] <weaselchen> btw, is playing minecraft with a latency of between 800ms and 1500ms possible (i guess not)
#2231 [17:00] <Kealper> uhh....you might feel the lag a bit, but minecraft tries to hide lag a tad by doing clientside prediction of stuff like placing and breaking blocks
#2232 [17:00] <weaselchen> hm ok
#2233 [17:00] <xolotl> weaselchen: You'd probably want to make sure the server was on Peaceful
#2234 [17:00] <xolotl> weaselchen: Would probably be tolerable though
#2235 [17:00] <Kealper> ^
#2236 [17:00] <weaselchen> xD
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#2238 [17:01] <VoxelHead> shh cam18, it's wheesht time noo
#2239 [17:01] <xolotl> (IMO, fighting mobs is annoying even on low-latency)
#2240 [17:01] <xolotl> (in SMP)
#2241 [17:01] <weaselchen> seems like it is a good time to thing about those 2 meter long directional antennas for umts
#2242 [17:02] <Kealper> lol
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#2244 [17:02] <weaselchen> atm stuff is 36000 km away, and god made the speed of light to slow
#2245 [17:03] <Kealper> 186,000mph (300,000kph?) is slow? >..
#2246 [17:03] <Kealper> >.>*
#2247 [17:03] <weaselchen> my signal has to go all the way up, then down, then the same for the answer
#2248 [17:04] <Kealper> true
#2249 [17:04] <weaselchen> 144.000 km
#2250 [17:04] <weaselchen> 0.5 seconds latency without all the story and foward and proxie stuff
#2251 [17:04] <Kealper> :/
#2252 [17:05] <weaselchen> sucks :(
#2253 [17:05] <Kealper> i guess the benifit is you can get internet anywhere but a bomb shelter with that though....lol
#2254 [17:05] <weaselchen> ok, i am off now, thanks for your effort, i ll let you know if i have a solution for the problem
#2255 [17:05] <Kealper> ok
#2256 [17:05] <Kealper> cya
#2257 [17:05] <weaselchen> footprint is approx central europe
#2258 [17:05] <Kealper> :/
#2259 [17:05] <weaselchen> poor africans (who could need something like this)
#2260 [17:06] <weaselchen> cu :)
#2261 [17:06] <VoxelHead> Ah wish they didn't huv tae go :O
#2262 [17:07] <Kealper> Vohksell is skohtish now, aye?
#2263 [17:07] <VoxelHead> ah might
#2264 [17:08] <Kealper> Do ya eat tae behbeh, laddie?
#2265 [17:08] <Kealper> needs..to respond..more...
#2266 [17:08] <EmpiresBane> freacking VVVVVV!
#2267 [17:08] <Kealper> o.o
#2268 [17:08] <EmpiresBane> makes me want to murder someone
#2269 [17:09] <Kealper> lol
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#2271 [17:10] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#2272 [17:10] <Con> No thanks
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#2274 [17:14] <Dpunkt> After updating to Beta 1.3 everything is slow five seconds after start
#2275 [17:14] <Dpunkt> i got 2 fps
#2276 [17:14] <Dpunkt> i got 50+ with version 1.2
#2277 [17:16] <EmpiresBane> notch was messing with the drawing code
#2278 [17:16] <EmpiresBane> make sure you go to the vifeo options and turn off smooth lighting
#2279 [17:17] <EmpiresBane> *video
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#2281 [17:19] <leftyhero2> I have a quick question.
#2282 [17:20] <leftyhero2> Can you no longer pay for Minecraft with prepaid cards?
#2283 [17:22] <Kealper> you never could use prepaid cards, almost all prepaid cards do not allow international purchases
#2284 [17:23] <Dpunkt> i have done that
#2285 [17:23] <Dpunkt> but it has not changed anything
#2286 [17:24] <leftyhero2> oh that makes sense. so a normal credit/debit card will work?
#2287 [17:25] <Kealper> yes
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#2289 [17:26] <ToNo> What is the reason when I die that the items despawn?
#2290 [17:27] <Kealper> when you die, your items are dropped on the ground at the place that you died at
#2291 [17:27] <ToNo> Yes, but why do they despawn?
#2292 [17:28] <Kealper> they don't but some times in multiplayer your items are invisible, logging out and back in again lets you see them
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#2294 [17:28] <Kealper> it's a bug that i'm sure is on the to-do list :/
#2295 [17:28] <VoxelHead> ieks, sprocket
#2296 [17:29] <ToNo> Ok
#2297 [17:29] <ToNo> Playing single mode tho
#2298 [17:29] <Kealper> oh? are you taking longer than 5 minutes to get back to where you died?
#2299 [17:29] <Kealper> because items on the ground will disappear after 5 minutes
#2300 [17:31] <ToNo> Im not sure, It was about that time
#2301 [17:31] <ToNo> To bad...I had just farmed like crazy
#2302 [17:31] <Kealper> :(
#2303 [17:31] <relsqui> yeah, I think the general item timeout is just to prevent litter
#2304 [17:31] <Kealper> the worst is when you have a ton of good stuff in your inventory, and you fall into lava ._.
#2305 [17:35] <VoxelHead> mmm szernex
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#2307 [17:37] <EmpiresBane> is it even possible to beat VVVVV?
#2308 [17:37] <VoxelHead> Yes, but only on the third wednesday o' ilka month.
#2309 [17:37] <EmpiresBane> that's what i thought...
#2310 [17:37] <EmpiresBane> i don't want to stop becuase it didn't save last time
#2311 [17:37] <Kealper> i wonder if that acutally "learns" or if it's reponses are static
#2312 [17:38] <Kealper> i'll have to ask dope when he gets back
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#2314 [17:38] <leftyhero2> okay another question
#2315 [17:38] <Kealper> shoot
#2316 [17:38] <krebbit> whats the shops # so i can call and ask y my payment dint go through?
#2317 [17:38] <VoxelHead> shooooooot
#2318 [17:38] <leftyhero2> if I put money in my paypal, I can buy it without that international problem right?
#2319 [17:39] <Kealper> krebbit: ask by email, payment@mojang.com but you won't get a response right now, it's late in Sweden
#2320 [17:39] <Kealper> should be able to leftyhero2
#2321 [17:40] <leftyhero2> alright. I had to ask before actually putting the money in.
#2322 [17:40] <krebbit> y would they be rejecting my prepaid visa card?
#2323 [17:40] <krebbit> it said "This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments."
#2324 [17:41] <EmpiresBane> you can't call mojang
#2325 [17:41] <leftyhero2> weird because that's the same reason i'm here.
#2326 [17:41] <AG_Scott> Maybe they're requiring visa's equivalent of mastercard secure code?
#2327 [17:41] <AG_Scott> A prepaid card wouldn't have it
#2328 [17:41] <krebbit> have what?
#2329 [17:42] <VoxelHead> talkin'
#2330 [17:42] <AG_Scott> The visa equivalent to secure code.
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#2332 [17:42] <VoxelHead> guid Mornin' _psyCtrl
#2333 [17:42] <_psyCtrl> hey there
#2334 [17:42] <krebbit> how do i get a secure code?
#2335 [17:42] <AG_Scott> If it's prepaid, you likely can't.
#2336 [17:43] <krebbit> oh
#2337 [17:43] <_psyCtrl> simple question: is multiplayer beta only dedicated or is there an option to play while hosting on the same pc
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#2339 [17:43] <VoxelHead> are ye here tae fumigate the moose heid?
#2340 [17:43] <krebbit> i got account that way before
#2341 [17:43] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: only dedicated
#2342 [17:43] <AG_Scott> It lets merchants use your card like at point of sale without physically having the card.
#2343 [17:43] <_psyCtrl> :(
#2344 [17:43] <_psyCtrl> too bad..
#2345 [17:43] <krebbit> ok ty
#2346 [17:43] <Nebafyer> how do you set up an irc on a server? or can you?
#2347 [17:43] <AG_Scott> I spend way too much time on wikipedia.
#2348 [17:43] <Kealper> _psyCtrl: although you can host on the same machine if you wanted to and had a good computer
#2349 [17:44] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: You can play while hosting on the same PC
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#2352 [17:44] <_psyCtrl> well I guess I'll try this, how?
#2353 [17:44] <VoxelHead> wasn't expectin' pigsaw!
#2354 [17:44] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: But you'd still have to run the server on the PC (in addition to the client)
#2355 [17:44] * VoxelHead hides
#2355 [17:44] <pigsaw> any1 hete?
#2356 [17:44] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: There's no "start server" button in the client
#2357 [17:44] <_psyCtrl> ok's
#2358 [17:44] <pigsaw> what happened
#2359 [17:44] <pigsaw> to all in the mined
#2360 [17:44] <pigsaw> server
#2361 [17:44] <pigsaw> ?
#2362 [17:45] <xolotl> pigsaw: You might want to try rephrasing that
#2363 [17:45] <_psyCtrl> ok ty, so basically I just execute both the host + minecraft.exe (while joining my ip?), right?
#2364 [17:45] <Nebafyer> How, if at all, do you set up an irc for a minecraft server thats chat appers ingame?
#2365 [17:45] <pigsaw> what?
#2366 [17:45] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: right. At least theoretically that should work
#2367 [17:45] <_psyCtrl> I theoretically thank you :D
#2368 [17:46] <_psyCtrl> gn8
#2369 [17:46] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: I know in the past there's been a *bit* of trickiness (like you either had to connect to 127.0.0.1, or maybe it was that you had to use the REAL IP, or something)
#2370 [17:46] <pigsaw> i was on server "all in the mined" and then lost connection, now i cannot find it
#2371 [17:46] <EmpiresBane> gah, shut up voxel
#2372 [17:46] <VoxelHead> fine
#2373 [17:46] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: Dunno if there's any current such limitations though. Regardless, it should work fine.
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#2375 [17:46] <_psyCtrl> kk ty, what do you mean by real ip?
#2376 [17:46] <_psyCtrl> my lan ip?
#2377 [17:47] <_psyCtrl> provider..?
#2378 [17:47] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: I guess I was thinking "real" IP; I assume it's probably not a problem though
#2379 [17:47] <ToNo> Is there any way to swap spawnplace on Single Player?
#2380 [17:47] <_psyCtrl> umm ok :))
#2381 [17:47] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: Just try it with "localhost" first
#2382 [17:47] <Nebafyer> How Do I Set Up A IRC For A Server, So That Chat Appears In Game?
#2383 [17:47] <_psyCtrl> I'll give it a try and let u know if it works
#2384 [17:48] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: I don't run on the same box that my client does, but I do use my internal LAN domain name to connect and it works fine
#2385 [17:48] <xolotl> _psyCtrl: I'd guess that it doesn't actually matter
#2386 [17:48] <xolotl> ToNo: You'd have to use a map editor
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#2388 [17:48] <Nebafyer> .... or dont awnser....
#2389 [17:48] <leftyhero2> I really wish I could just use this card internationally. it would make life a whole lot easier.
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#2391 [17:49] <ThaDave> ohai
#2392 [17:49] <_psyCtrl> localhost worked greatly but I guess my laptop/connection is too weak
#2393 [17:49] <ThaDave> Is there anyone that can help me setting up my server?
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#2395 [17:49] <ThaDave> because i cant manage to make myself an admin with the latest server client
#2396 [17:49] <_psyCtrl> thanks guys. bye.
#2397 [17:50] <Kealper> ThaDave: are you adding yourself into ops.txt?
#2398 [17:50] <ThaDave> Yea
#2399 [17:50] <ThaDave> but i want my friends to be admin too so they can use the give command
#2400 [17:50] <xolotl> ThaDave: Are you adding *them* to ops.txt?
#2401 [17:50] <ThaDave> since i am the only one who can use the command with the console
#2402 [17:51] <ThaDave> yup
#2403 [17:51] <VoxelHead> It wasn't me.
#2404 [17:51] <Kealper> one name per line inside ops.txt
#2405 [17:51] <ThaDave> but i added myself to it and i still cant use give commands
#2406 [17:51] <ThaDave> i checked for the right id's
#2407 [17:51] <Kealper> then type op username in the server console, where username would be your username
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#2409 [17:52] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#2410 [17:52] <ThaDave> mentlegen?
#2411 [17:52] <Kealper> VoxelHead: nou
#2412 [17:53] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2413 [17:53] <VoxelHead> Hay aetherian.
#2414 [17:54] <aetherian> VoxelHead: I thought you were a bot.
#2415 [17:54] <aetherian> :o
#2416 [17:54] <VoxelHead> marmalade
#2417 [17:54] <aetherian> jam
#2418 [17:54] <Kealper> voxel is sentient (ish) now
#2419 [17:54] <ThaDave> hmm now i cant connect using local connect
#2420 [17:54] <ThaDave> localhost*
#2421 [17:54] <aetherian> Kealper: so he connects to it frequently?
#2422 [17:55] <Kealper> ThaDave: your server is running, and server-ip is blank inside server.properties?
#2423 [17:55] <VoxelHead> Ye want the answer? ye can't handle the answer!
#2424 [17:55] <Kealper> aetherian: no, it actually is sentient-ish now
#2425 [17:55] <ThaDave> its not blank
#2426 [17:55] * trevmonshta [trevmonshta@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2427 [17:55] <Kealper> make it blank
#2428 [17:55] <VoxelHead> Are ye here tae fumigate the moose thumb?
#2429 [17:55] <aetherian> Kealper: oh no. oh no no no.
#2430 [17:55] <aetherian> oh god no. we're doomed.
#2431 [17:55] <trevmonshta> Can anyone help me with my server error?
#2432 [17:56] <ThaDave> lol but what ip should my friends use to connect then?
#2433 [17:56] <Kealper> ThaDave: that line is not what you think it's for, that should only be filled out for big datacenter servers
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#2435 [17:56] <Kealper> they should just continue connecting like normal
#2436 [17:56] <aetherian> hrm. hello, nevercast.
#2437 [17:56] <Kealper> and you will be able to use localhost again
#2438 [17:56] <ThaDave> but still how can they connect to my server then?
#2439 [17:56] <nevercast> aetherian, Hello.
#2440 [17:56] <ThaDave> since they dont know any ip
#2441 [17:57] <nevercast> Kealper, Minecraft runs better on my Laptop than my Desktop HAHA
#2442 [17:57] <trevmonshta> When I join my own server I'm getting a "You need to log in!", tried both web browser, and executable still the same error.
#2443 [17:57] <Kealper> ThaDave: what ip did they use before to connect?
#2444 [17:57] <VoxelHead> the Lord o' the Rings
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#2446 [17:57] <ThaDave> they didnt lol, im still trying to figure out how they can connect to it
#2447 [17:57] <Kealper> ThaDave: they would continue using that same ip they always used....server-ip tells the server what network adapter to bind, leaving it blank binds all
#2448 [17:57] <Kealper> oh
#2449 [17:58] <Kealper> well, second part still stands
#2450 [17:58] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Have you paid for minecraft?
#2451 [17:58] <VoxelHead> Amsterdam.
#2452 [17:58] <trevmonshta> Yes sir I have.
#2453 [17:58] <aetherian> VoxelHead: so now you just spout out random babble?
#2454 [17:58] <VoxelHead> r tak ane little step left
#2455 [17:58] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Do you get this error with other servers?
#2456 [17:58] <VoxelHead> lemmie go keek that up
#2457 [17:58] * aetherian facepalms
#2457 [17:58] <Kealper> aetherian: it's trying to learn....shhhh
#2458 [17:58] <trevmonshta> Not when joining other servers, just my own when I host.
#2459 [17:58] <aetherian> Kealper: what program is it, then?
#2460 [17:58] <ThaDave> and with network adapter you mean my own ip?
#2461 [17:58] <nevercast> trevmonshta, are you hosting on the same PC as you're playing?
#2462 [17:58] <aetherian> and why oh why do we need a chatbot in here...
#2463 [17:59] <VoxelHead> ah'll consider that
#2464 [17:59] <trevmonshta> Yes, just for local testing.
#2465 [17:59] <Kealper> aetherian: the same voxel, just has a thing loaded right now that does that
#2466 [17:59] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Is it a vanilla server? ( original unchanged unmodded ) ?
#2467 [17:59] <trevmonshta> Yep.
#2468 [17:59] <VoxelHead> Www.aj.com.
#2469 [17:59] <Kealper> and stop talking about it's name or bots, it makes it talk more ._.
#2470 [17:59] <Kealper> O.o
#2471 [17:59] <nevercast> trevmonshta, You've just downloaded and run the server, no changes?
#2472 [17:59] <aetherian> wha
#2473 [17:59] <VoxelHead> can ah huv 50:50?
#2474 [17:59] <aetherian> but really, why do we need a chatb_t
#2475 [17:59] <trevmonshta> Yep. It's the only error I've not been able to solve. :\
#2476 [17:59] <Kealper> DopeGhoti!! what are you using as a dictionary on that thing?!
#2477 [18:00] <trevmonshta> or find answers on rather.
#2478 [18:00] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Are you running any Anti-Virus or Firewall?
#2479 [18:00] <VoxelHead> r
#2480 [18:00] <trevmonshta> nope.
#2481 [18:00] <ThaDave> lol now i still dont know what ip my friends should use to connect
#2482 [18:00] <nevercast> trevmonshta, none at all? What operating system are you using?
#2483 [18:00] <VoxelHead> K to the I T T E N S
#2484 [18:00] <aetherian> oh my
#2485 [18:00] <nevercast> Kealper, Why is VoxelHead spitting out random bull crap?
#2486 [18:00] <trevmonshta> Windows 7. I've got every security protocol I can find turned off, or disabled.
#2487 [18:01] <Kealper> i have no idea.....it was much more silent earlier
#2488 [18:01] <aetherian> it gained sentience the other day, but acts like an internet use still o.o
#2489 [18:01] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Did you mean program?
#2490 [18:01] <aetherian> *user
#2491 [18:01] <VoxelHead> amsterdam
#2492 [18:01] <nevercast> VoxelHead, SHUT UP
#2493 [18:01] <aetherian> lmao
#2494 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#2495 [18:01] <trevmonshta> Both. Including windows firewall in case that interferes or has a chance to.
#2496 [18:01] <aetherian> XD
#2497 [18:01] <Kealper> if it keeps up i'll give it a temporary kickban
#2498 [18:01] <ThaDave> i iz not getting answers :c
#2499 [18:02] * VoxelHead is back
#2499 [18:02] <aetherian> welcome back
#2500 [18:02] <ThaDave> Lol you were never away
#2501 [18:02] <aetherian> details
#2502 [18:02] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Can you try redownloading the server, to a new directory. and running it from there
#2503 [18:02] <ThaDave> sweet shop
#2504 [18:02] <nevercast> ThaDave, Doctor P - Sweet Shop?
#2505 [18:02] <aetherian> I can tell he's going to be a really useful b_t, every help channel needs a chatb_t
#2506 [18:02] <VoxelHead> ah can't tell ye that
#2507 [18:02] <ThaDave> Yer :D
#2508 [18:02] <trevmonshta> I'll give that a shot.
#2509 [18:02] <nevercast> ThaDave, Dubstep :D
#2510 [18:03] <ThaDave> Dubstep = Ftw
#2511 [18:03] <nevercast> trevmonshta, Let me know if anything changes
#2512 [18:03] <ThaDave> you should listen to Zomboy - Dirty Disco
#2513 [18:03] <trevmonshta> Will do.
#2514 [18:03] <ThaDave> its so epic
#2515 [18:03] <nevercast> ThaDave, I know so many songs of Dubstep it's rediculous
#2516 [18:03] * nevercast fires up 5.1 system
#2516 [18:03] <ThaDave> i dont like all the filth and shit though
#2517 [18:03] <nevercast> Dubstep tyme :D
#2518 [18:03] <ThaDave> but i love skrillex and that kinda stuff
#2519 [18:03] <aetherian> thyme time
#2520 [18:03] <aetherian> :D
#2521 [18:03] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2522 [18:03] <nevercast> ThaDave, Filth Dubstep is good when done right.. but there are so many novices that try to create mixes. and it sounds like utter shit
#2523 [18:04] <aetherian> :O
#2524 [18:04] <ThaDave> yea
#2525 [18:04] * nevercast slaps VoxelHead, " I'd kick you had I the power to do so! "
#2525 [18:04] <VoxelHead> they took ma squeezin' arm!
#2526 [18:04] <VoxelHead> WHY ma SQUEEZin' ARM?!?
#2527 [18:04] <ThaDave> Did you hear the new Roksonix ft Statelapse one?
#2528 [18:04] <VoxelHead> WHHHYYYYY?
#2529 [18:04] <aetherian> :o
#2530 [18:04] <ThaDave> that has some nice filth
#2531 [18:04] <VoxelHead> Well slap ma ass a call me a piss-whistle.
#2532 [18:04] <aetherian> HAHAHA
#2533 [18:04] <aetherian> augh, capslock
#2534 [18:04] <aetherian> .-.
#2535 [18:04] <nevercast> Kealper, :(
#2536 [18:05] <Kealper> hilight me if you want it gone for now
#2537 [18:05] <nevercast> Kealper, HIGHLIGHT
#2538 [18:05] <ThaDave> but most filthy dubstep is exactly like this : drum intro - heavy bassline
#2539 [18:05] <ThaDave> done
#2540 [18:05] <aetherian> ke_lper. no. we want it.
#2541 [18:05] * Kealper kicked VoxelHead from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: VoxelHead)
#2542 [18:05] <aetherian> aww
#2543 [18:05] <aetherian> ;_;
#2544 [18:05] <Kealper> i hope dope doesn't DC in the next 5 minutes
#2545 [18:05] <nevercast> aetherian, don't be a troll :P
#2546 [18:05] <nevercast> only troll supports trolls
#2547 [18:05] <aetherian> but seriously, why do we need a chatbot again?
#2548 [18:05] <nevercast> aetherian, we don't
#2549 [18:05] <aetherian> nevercast: I'm a robot. duh.
#2550 [18:05] <ThaDave> i need some help so my friends can finally connect lolz
#2551 [18:05] <aetherian> robot!=troll
#2552 [18:06] <Kealper> it was supposed to be in here to randomly spout stuff...but it appears that the more it stored into it's dictionary database, the more it would spam
#2553 [18:06] <nevercast> ThaDave, I miss the classic bandpass LFO wobble
#2554 [18:06] <nevercast> Kealper, It was good in theory
#2555 [18:06] <nevercast> Kealper, If anything the bot should talk to people and try help their issues
#2556 [18:06] <aetherian> if it was a bit less, it would be good in practice
#2557 [18:06] <ThaDave> gimme an example of that
#2558 [18:07] <nevercast> ThaDave, Err let me think of a track
#2559 [18:07] <Kealper> oh man, it was funny as heck earlier...but it did not talk nearly as much, which made people think it was a real person lol
#2560 [18:07] <aetherian> but if you need someone to occasionally spew forth random stuff, I'm your man.
#2561 [18:07] <aetherian> :)
#2562 [18:07] <ThaDave> you mean those basses sub focus uses sometimes without distortion and shit?
#2563 [18:08] <nevercast> ThaDave, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdq1CSC52T4
#2564 [18:08] <nevercast> ThaDave, All you hear in that track is wobble
#2565 [18:08] <nevercast> ThaDave, It's not the best track, but it's an example
#2566 [18:08] <nevercast> ThaDave, You listen to Sub Focus?
#2567 [18:08] <ThaDave> nah
#2568 [18:08] <ThaDave> xd
#2569 [18:08] <nevercast> Oh.. I DO :D
#2570 [18:09] <ThaDave> i dont really know any of his good tracks
#2571 [18:09] <ThaDave> i like splash though
#2572 [18:09] <ThaDave> but without coco
#2573 [18:09] <ThaDave> ah you mean just constant wobbles
#2574 [18:09] <nevercast> ThaDave, DnB meats Dubstep : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TqSEVun9s&feature=related
#2575 [18:09] <nevercast> *meets
#2576 [18:10] <nevercast> ThaDave, The Coco mix is shit
#2577 [18:10] <nevercast> ThaDave, I can tell you all his good tracks
#2578 [18:10] <aetherian> ragtime anyone?
#2579 [18:10] <nevercast> Kealper, No auto join, lawl
#2580 [18:10] <ThaDave> damn i love that synth that emalkay always uses
#2581 [18:10] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2582 [18:10] <nevercast> Hey cool :D
#2583 [18:11] <ThaDave> like in when i look at you
#2584 [18:11] <Kealper> GAH
#2585 [18:11] <nevercast> ThaDave, I know right!
#2586 [18:11] <aetherian> don't talk to it... it'll explode and bring the entire dimension along with it
#2587 [18:11] <nevercast> Kealper, Could also ban but not kick
#2588 [18:11] <ThaDave> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirKFo_Hy8s
#2589 [18:11] <nevercast> Kealper, it'd keep it quiet
#2590 [18:11] <ThaDave> damn i love that song
#2591 [18:11] <ThaDave> OH BTW
#2592 [18:11] <Kealper> no i can't
#2593 [18:11] <VoxelHead> ah say
#2594 [18:11] <ThaDave> did you hear flux pavilion's bass cannon?
#2595 [18:11] <Kealper> watch....
#2596 [18:11] <ThaDave> me like
#2597 [18:11] <aetherian> if it spams again, that would be useful...
#2598 [18:12] <Kealper> hmm.....nvm
#2599 [18:12] <Kealper> don't feel like typing out a banmask
#2600 [18:12] <Kealper> anywho it will just unban itself
#2601 [18:12] <nevercast> ThaDave, Yeah I did
#2602 [18:12] <Kealper> and if i try to deop it so it can't unban itself.....
#2603 [18:12] <ThaDave> listen to that link
#2604 [18:12] <VoxelHead> CHANNEL TAKEOVER DETECTED! Everyone run around screaming@^£*!~#!~%percent$%percent.
#2605 [18:13] <Kealper> then it does that
#2606 [18:13] <aetherian> AAAHHHH
#2607 [18:13] <Kealper> FAIL text
#2608 [18:13] <ThaDave> btw did you listen to Zomboy - Dirty Disco yet?
#2609 [18:13] <nevercast> ThaDave, Sub Focus - Let The Story Begin, World of Hurt, Follow The Light, Last Jungle, Deep Space, Rock It, Move Higher, Vapourise, Triple X, Could This Be Real, Splash, Timewarp, Coming Closer.
#2610 [18:13] <nevercast> ThaDave, not yet
#2611 [18:13] <ThaDave> it is siiiiiiiiick
#2612 [18:13] <ThaDave> favorite dubstep tune atm
#2613 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: why are you fighting with VoxelHead again?
#2614 [18:13] <aetherian> anyone listen to progressive rock?
#2615 [18:14] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: demonstrating why resistance is futile to the nubs
#2616 [18:14] <aetherian> ohno, the bot feuhrer is here
#2617 [18:14] <Kealper> I for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
#2618 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> I'm not the leader, mearly the creator.
#2619 [18:14] <nevercast> ThaDave, Listening now.
#2620 [18:14] <VoxelHead> Did you say overlords? Clearly, you meant protectors.
#2621 [18:15] <aetherian> haha
#2622 [18:15] * DopeGhoti pets VoxelHead
#2622 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Ah huv a plan... an amazin' plan.
#2623 [18:15] <VoxelHead> =D
#2624 [18:15] <aetherian> what is it, voxelhead?
#2625 [18:15] <VoxelHead> French fries o' course!
#2626 [18:16] <aetherian> oh, okay.
#2627 [18:16] <aetherian> anything else, voxelhead?
#2628 [18:16] <VoxelHead> Basically, ah like edam best o' a'
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#2630 [18:16] <trevmonshta> hallelujah... it works. Re-downloaded and all is well now. Thanks for the help nevercast. I admire this server too... finally a server for a game I can host without having to go through hell trying to make work right.
#2631 [18:16] <aetherian> what accent is this...
#2632 [18:16] <ThaDave> btw i still dont know how my friend can connect to my server
#2633 [18:16] <ThaDave> what if i use hamachi
#2634 [18:16] <ThaDave> can they use localhost?
#2635 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2636 [18:16] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#2637 [18:16] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#2638 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: hint: it's nae crap.
#2639 [18:17] <ThaDave> lolwut
#2640 [18:17] <nevercast> trevmonshta, You're welcome :)
#2641 [18:17] <Kealper> ThaDave: stop failing!
#2642 [18:17] <nevercast> trevmonshta, If you want mods or commands or protection
#2643 [18:17] <ThaDave> _I_
#2644 [18:17] <nevercast> Oh he's gone
#2645 [18:17] <Kealper> did you remove server-ip from your config?
#2646 [18:17] <ThaDave> yaa
#2647 [18:18] <Kealper> did you set up port forwarding in your router?
#2648 [18:18] <ThaDave> yup
#2649 [18:18] <nevercast> Kealper, Is the server-ip for address binding?
#2650 [18:18] <Kealper> type !check
#2651 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> ThaDave can count to one. /me is less than impressed.
#2652 [18:18] <Kealper> nevercast: yes
#2653 [18:18] <nevercast> Kealper, Then unless someone has multiple NICs.. No one should EVER use it
#2654 [18:18] <ThaDave> .....
#2655 [18:18] <Kealper> that was a capital i dope
#2656 [18:18] <ThaDave> Such nice people here
#2657 [18:18] <ThaDave> *sarcasm ftw*
#2658 [18:19] <Kealper> nevercast: it's for datacenters that have multiple IPs per machine
#2659 [18:19] <nevercast> ThaDave, Lol where what?
#2660 [18:19] <aetherian> ThaDave: you haven't seen the worst of it
#2661 [18:19] <VoxelHead> a floppy disk
#2662 [18:19] <nevercast> Kealper, Ahh fair enough
#2663 [18:19] <aetherian> VoxelHead: punch cards ftw.
#2664 [18:19] <ThaDave> Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
#2665 [18:20] <ThaDave> how the fucks that gonna help me
#2666 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: in fact.
#2667 [18:20] * mib_2mq8p9 [mib_2mq8p9@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2668 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> good talk, mib_2mq8p9
#2669 [18:22] <ThaDave> jesus it finally worked
#2670 [18:22] <VoxelHead> bye ToNo
#2671 [18:23] <Empis_Home> hey, is there a way to run the server without binding an ip?
#2672 [18:23] <Empis_Home> hmm
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#2674 [18:23] <Kealper> Empis_Home: just don't specify an ip in server-ip?
#2675 [18:23] <ThaDave> isn't there a command which puts the time into day?
#2676 [18:24] <Empis_Home> because it was defaut i thought it have to be an ip there
#2677 [18:24] <Kealper> ThaDave: /time set 0
#2678 [18:24] <Kealper> makes it morning
#2679 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> ThaDave: yes, but it takes anywhere from 90 seconts to 10 minutes to work
#2680 [18:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i see what you did there
#2681 [18:25] <ThaDave> btw give commands still dont work
#2682 [18:25] <ThaDave> dopeghoti's sooo funny
#2683 [18:25] <Kealper> what is your ingame username?
#2684 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> Three guesses.
#2685 [18:25] <ThaDave> ThaDave
#2686 [18:26] <Kealper> you typed op ThaDave into the server's console, right?
#2687 [18:26] <ThaDave> ya
#2688 [18:26] <Kealper> did you get a message ingame saying "You are now Op!"?
#2689 [18:26] <ThaDave> they should make an irc called #minecrafttrolls
#2690 [18:26] <ThaDave> and the only one allowed is dopeghoti
#2691 [18:26] <ThaDave> yea
#2692 [18:26] <Kealper> how are you trying to use the /give command then?
#2693 [18:26] <Kealper> and type /list
#2694 [18:27] <Kealper> does it show you a list of online users?
#2695 [18:27] * DopeGhoti climbs under the bridge and demande $5 from ThaDave.
#2695 [18:27] <ThaDave> give ThaDave 1 1
#2696 [18:27] <ThaDave> yup it shows a list
#2697 [18:27] <ThaDave> Im sorry im dutch i dont have dollars
#2698 [18:27] <ThaDave> :D
#2699 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> vox, give ThaDave a one
#2700 [18:27] <Kealper> are you running any mods on your server?
#2701 [18:28] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2702 [18:28] * VoxelHead gives ThaDave an ane
#2702 [18:28] <ThaDave> nope
#2703 [18:28] <Kealper> i have no idea then....there is no reason it should not be working
#2704 [18:28] <Kealper> and when you said that give command, you are typing a / before it ingame right?
#2705 [18:28] <ThaDave> yup
#2706 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> ThaDave: in the console, do you see "ThaDave attempted command give ThaDave 1 1 "
#2707 [18:29] <Kealper> does the game chat say "CONSOLE: Giving ThaDave some 1"?
#2708 [18:29] <ThaDave> nope
#2709 [18:30] <ThaDave> it works in console though but i want it to work ingame
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#2711 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Are you sure you typed your name correctly when you opped yourself?
#2712 [18:30] <ThaDave> Yea
#2713 [18:30] <ThaDave> it said
#2714 [18:30] <ThaDave> You are know OP!
#2715 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> no it didn't.
#2716 [18:31] <ThaDave> wanna bet on it
#2717 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Yes, I will bet you real money that it did not say "You are know OP!".
#2718 [18:31] <ThaDave> oh
#2719 [18:31] <ThaDave> LOL
#2720 [18:31] <ThaDave> ye..
#2721 [18:32] <ThaDave> *whistles*
#2722 [18:32] * Kealper sighs
#2722 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> ANYwho, do you see anything on the console when, from the client, you press 't', type '/help', and press Enter?
#2723 [18:33] <ThaDave> no
#2724 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Are you sure you've connected to the server you think you're on? :p
#2725 [18:33] <ThaDave> yea..
#2726 [18:33] <ThaDave> i used localhost
#2727 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Interesting. No server mods or anything?
#2728 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> No _client_ mods?
#2729 [18:35] <ThaDave> nope
#2730 [18:35] <ThaDave> nothing
#2731 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> That's.. impressive.
#2732 [18:35] * DopeGhoti is stymied.
#2732 [18:35] <Kealper> indeed
#2733 [18:35] <Kealper> ThaDave: what do you run when you start the server?
#2734 [18:35] <VoxelHead> cauld
#2735 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Try checking ops.txt to make sure you're in there?
#2736 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Assuming you are, restart the server.
#2737 [18:36] <Kealper> he's already checked, he's in there
#2738 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: so he would have us believe.
#2739 [18:36] <Kealper> well....atleast he said he was....lol
#2740 [18:36] <ThaDave> minecraft_server.exe
#2741 [18:37] <ThaDave> ah now it works
#2742 [18:37] <ThaDave> k im out of this trollcave
#2743 [18:37] <ThaDave> cya
#2744 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> That'll be 8 Euro please.
#2745 [18:38] <Kealper> lol
#2746 [18:38] <Kealper> ingrateful child
#2747 [18:38] <Kealper> >.>
#2748 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Vox, what do you think of TheDave's attitude?
#2749 [18:39] <VoxelHead> "kittens"
#2750 [18:39] <Kealper> brilliant.
#2751 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> An interesting metaphor.
#2752 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> And yet, it works- a mind all his own, unable to be easily herded in the right direction, and distracted by shiny things.
#2753 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Well dome, Vox
#2754 [18:40] <Kealper> is it ironic that "vox" is voice-activation abbriviation on phones and other portable talking devices?
#2755 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Not particularly
#2756 [18:41] <Kealper> trying to make a totally customizable quizzing program ftl
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#2758 [18:42] <mib_4Sgs26> need sum halp, ne1 here
#2759 [18:42] <mib_4Sgs26> dam
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#2761 [18:42] <Kealper> AHH! MY EYEZ! ZE GOGGLEZ....ZE DO NOZZING!
#2762 [18:42] <Kealper> fail
#2763 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
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#2765 [18:43] <VoxelHead> hi mib_4sgs26
#2766 [18:43] <mib_4Sgs26> damit this mib thin sez 180 ppl here
#2767 [18:43] <mib_4Sgs26> hi voxelhead
#2768 [18:43] <mib_4Sgs26> can u help me?
#2769 [18:43] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2770 [18:44] * Con touches a live wire to VoxelHead
#2770 [18:44] * VoxelHead touches Con
#2770 [18:44] * Con goes poff
#2770 [18:44] * Con goes poof
#2770 [18:44] <mib_4Sgs26> vozzelhead i was here 1st
#2771 [18:44] <mib_4Sgs26> help me
#2772 [18:45] <Kealper> *crickets*
#2773 [18:45] <Con> VoxelHead has no brain
#2774 [18:45] <Kealper> VoxelHead: stop sucking and help mib_4Sgs26
#2775 [18:45] <mib_4Sgs26> minecraft dont work
#2776 [18:45] <Con> Very descriptive
#2777 [18:45] <Kealper> meh...looks like voxel doesn't want to help
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#2779 [18:45] <Kealper> ??> mib_4Sgs26 specific
#2780 [18:45] <VoxelHead> mib_4Sgs26: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2781 [18:46] <VoxelHead> mib_4Sgs26: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2782 [18:46] <mib_4Sgs26> i try n run it n my pointer goed to beachball mode and i hafta reboot
#2783 [18:46] <Con> Do you know your computer specs?
#2784 [18:47] <mib_4Sgs26> um its a mac mini, dunno about specs
#2785 [18:47] <Kealper> how old is it?
#2786 [18:47] <mib_4Sgs26> liek mebbe 5 yrs?
#2787 [18:48] <Kealper> i don't suppose anyone in here has any experience with macs?
#2788 [18:48] <night98> how come i keep getting a 503 error on my mc server
#2789 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Five years old? Is it a G4?
#2790 [18:48] <VoxelHead> Tak ane little step left.
#2791 [18:48] <Kealper> night98: auth server must be screwing up
#2792 [18:48] <mib_4Sgs26> no its a mac mini
#2793 [18:48] <night98> ok
#2794 [18:48] <Con> VoxelHead: wtf?
#2795 [18:48] * DopeGhoti twitches
#2795 [18:48] <VoxelHead> www.google.com
#2796 [18:49] <mib_4Sgs26> so can u help ghost?
#2797 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> Do you know what verison of the OS you're running
#2798 [18:49] <mib_4Sgs26> osx
#2799 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> ..right. erm, go to the apple menu, and select about this mac
#2800 [18:50] * Kealper makes note of that
#2800 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> RIght under where is says Mac OS X, it'll say Version; what is it?
#2801 [18:51] <mib_4Sgs26> sez 10.4.8 i got all teh updates
#2802 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2803 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> And the Processor?
#2804 [18:51] <GLaDOS> mib_4Sgs26: speak proper english, dont LAWL I R SPEEK WOLOLOLO TRAWLOLOLOLOL IM A NUB
#2805 [18:51] <Kealper> ehh....that's probably old...
#2806 [18:52] <mib_4Sgs26> soz i try
#2807 [18:52] <mib_4Sgs26> processor says g4 800 mhz
#2808 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_4Sgs26 requirements
#2809 [18:52] <VoxelHead> mib_4Sgs26: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2810 [18:52] <Kealper> yeah that is not nearly good enough to play minecraft
#2811 [18:52] <mib_4Sgs26> omfg lol vozzel now u help me?
#2812 [18:53] <Kealper> it's pronounced vock-sell :/
#2813 [18:53] <mib_4Sgs26> not good enuough? its a mac!
#2814 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> an old, old mav
#2815 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> er, mac
#2816 [18:54] <Kealper> yeah, well...the reality is macs are no better than any other computer
#2817 [18:54] <Kealper> that's just sheeple and good marketing on Apple's part
#2818 [18:55] <GLaDOS> not good enough? get a proper computer!
#2819 [18:55] <GLaDOS> herp
#2820 [18:55] <mib_4Sgs26> but if i get a new 1 i can still play? no hafta buy another minecraft??
#2821 [18:55] <GLaDOS> no, there are tons of bugs with minecraft and macs
#2822 [18:55] <Kealper> you never have to buy it again, when you pay once, you have the game for life
#2823 [18:55] <GLaDOS> also apple is planning to remove java from macs
#2824 [18:57] <mib_4Sgs26> ok um thx keepler and vozzel and ghosti
#2825 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> that was.. interesting.
#2826 [18:57] <Kealper> fucking. troll.
#2827 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Not sure if that was a troll or a 11-year-old who just inherited his gramdmother's vast riches.
#2828 [18:58] <Kealper> there is no way someone gets 3 names wrong unless they were either trolling or at a seriously reduced mental state
#2829 [18:58] <Kealper> an 800mhz mac mini is a fortune?
#2830 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> I think the only thing he spelled right was 'ok' and 'um'
#2831 [18:58] <Kealper> inb4 no, but it costs one!
#2832 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> I think that may have been a first-gen Mini actually
#2833 [18:59] <Kealper> probably
#2834 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> those really weren't bad for $499
#2835 [18:59] <Kealper> what year were they?
#2836 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> 2004? 5?
#2837 [18:59] <Kealper> ehhh....that's a tad on the shitty side for that yea rlol
#2838 [18:59] <Kealper> year*
#2839 [19:00] <Kealper> i have a laptop from 1999 that has almost as much power as that mini :/
#2840 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> well, it's hard to directly compare the G4/G5 line to x86 CPUs honestly.
#2841 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> RISC v. CISC
#2842 [19:00] <Kealper> true.....
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#2845 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> I had a comparable PowerBook G4 from around that time (which was already rather old when I got it) that did rather well
#2846 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> I wouldn't throw Minecraft at it, but hey
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#2848 [19:01] <VoxelHead> Hay Astralysis whats gaun on.
#2849 [19:01] <Kealper> i tried throwing minecraft at my 700mhz P3 laptop....
#2850 [19:02] <Kealper> it didn't do too well
#2851 [19:02] <Kealper> but that was probably just the 8mb of integrated graphics
#2852 [19:02] <Kealper> or the 256mb of pc-100 ram
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#2854 [19:03] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's ssen
#2855 [19:04] <ssen> Uh oh indeed.
#2856 [19:04] <Con> oh uh
#2857 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> I wonder how good the prediction engine is
#2858 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Vox, when will Minecraft's login servers be stable for more than a week at a time?
#2859 [19:12] <VoxelHead> yesterday
#2860 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> not so good it seems.
#2861 [19:12] <Kealper> lol
#2862 [19:13] <Kealper> it tries....lol
#2863 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> vox, are you sure?
#2864 [19:13] <VoxelHead> r yes
#2865 [19:13] <Kealper> longer it's in here, the better it can build responses, correct?
#2866 [19:13] <VoxelHead> wait! ah mean nay
#2867 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2868 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: theoretically, yes
#2869 [19:14] <Kealper> well then....let's see if it can eventually be simple tech support :o
#2870 [19:14] <Kealper> worst-case scenario...we have our own personal Chatterbot
#2871 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> that would be interesting.
#2872 [19:15] <leftyhero2> I really wish there was a way to buy MC with a prepaid card. -__-
#2873 [19:15] <Kealper> blame the prepaid card people :/
#2874 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> leftyhero2: there is
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#2876 [19:15] <leftyhero2> orly?
#2877 [19:15] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i think he means without being ghetto
#2878 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> take the prepaid card, go to an ATM. Cash it out. Take the cash to a bank. At the bank, open an account, and deposit the cash. Link the account to paypal.
#2879 [19:16] <leftyhero2> that's quite a lot to do just to buy Minecraft.
#2880 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ghetto?
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#2882 [19:16] <leftyhero2> it sounds totally worth it though.
#2883 [19:16] <Kealper> that wasn't as ghetto as i thought it was going to be lol
#2884 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> leftyhero2: yes, but you also will then have a working bank account and a working paypal account. Oh, and also Minecraft (:
#2885 [19:17] <leftyhero2> but more importantly, Minecraft.
#2886 [19:17] <Kealper> VoxelHead: make yourself useful. what's the first 10 digits of pi?
#2887 [19:17] <VoxelHead> a monitor
#2888 [19:18] <Kealper> i'm not even sure what to say to that
#2889 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead, make Kealper useful
#2890 [19:19] * VoxelHead replicates useful fur Kealper
#2890 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> *snort*
#2891 [19:20] <leftyhero2> so I heard you have to pay monthly to host a server. is that true?
#2892 [19:20] <Kealper> leftyhero2: only if you buy hosting from a company
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#2894 [19:21] <VoxelHead> hi xawiahn
#2895 [19:21] <mica_moca> man, whats with minecraft shutting down that's causing my entire cpu to freezeup? Anyone else got this issue?
#2896 [19:21] <Kealper> if you have beefy internet and a good computer you can leave on, you can host it yourself for free
#2897 [19:21] <Xawiahn> hello VoxelHead
#2898 [19:21] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2899 [19:21] <Kealper> Vox, don't be rude :o
#2900 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Kealper, Vox said hello
#2901 [19:22] <leftyhero2> yay :D
#2902 [19:23] <Xawiahn> can someone have a look at this http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=204225 had this problem for so damn long and its starting to go on my.... everything I have
#2903 [19:23] <Xawiahn> and from all the threads I found so far about it I havent seen a single "mod" answear...
#2904 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> Xawiahn win/profile
#2905 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Xawiahn: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2906 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Xawiahn: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2907 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> And on that note, I go home now
#2908 [19:24] <Xawiahn> there is no way the system cant be enough since I can run it on my shitty laptop no problem
#2909 [19:25] <Kealper> what sort of specs does that thing have?
#2910 [19:25] <Xawiahn> the laptop or my normal?
#2911 [19:25] <Kealper> normal
#2912 [19:25] <Xawiahn> e8400 @ 4,0ghz gtx275 4gb ram
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#2914 [19:26] <VoxelHead> guid Mornin' brand0ng
#2915 [19:27] <Xawiahn> my laptop can run it no problem with t4400 (2,2ghz) and with a 4650
#2916 [19:27] <leftyhero2> I wish you could ride slime.
#2917 [19:27] <Kealper> that's....weird.....definately try what Dope said, make a new windows system account and try it on there
#2918 [19:28] <Kealper> might be something with your system settings that are messing with it's performance
#2919 [19:32] <Xawiahn> hmm, sounds strange, but Ill try that
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#2922 [19:33] <VoxelHead> Wilkommen Odysimus.
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#2924 [19:35] <Xawiahn> Kealper, tho that doesnt explain why it lagged on my last windows installtion
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#2926 [19:35] <VoxelHead> lol l@@k its tylergillies. i' ma pants
#2927 [19:35] <AG_Scott> Has that bot fell off it's rocker?
#2928 [19:35] <Kealper> Xawiahn: it lagged on that machine on your last installation too?
#2929 [19:36] <aetherian> it's completely sane!
#2930 [19:36] <Kealper> AG_Scott: potentially
#2931 [19:36] <Xawiahn> yea, then I reinstalled windows for other reasons and still laging on this "fresh" installtion
#2932 [19:36] <Kealper> Xawiahn: using the latest drivers from nvidia.com?
#2933 [19:36] <Xawiahn> yepp, tried uninstall, install a few times
#2934 [19:37] <Kealper> i....have absolutely no idea then...
#2935 [19:37] <Kealper> know anything about linux? lol
#2936 [19:38] <Xawiahn> never used it lol
#2937 [19:38] <Kealper> oh.....nevermind then
#2938 [19:39] <Kealper> was going to say boot into a live ubuntu or something and try it in there :/
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#2940 [19:40] <Xawiahn> quite annoying problem tho, not the only who have it, and not a single response from a developer or any fix for it
#2941 [19:40] <Kealper> well....i'd ask one of the developers of it to see if they know what could cause it to fail on a perfectly good machine but they are currently away at GDC :/
#2942 [19:41] <Xawiahn> ahh thanks anyways, just wished I could play the damn game lol
#2943 [19:42] <AG_Clinton_> .
#2944 [19:43] <Kealper> ./
#2945 [19:44] <Kealper> ...---...?
#2946 [19:50] <night98> how do i make myself fly on mc server or how do i add the command
#2947 [19:50] <xales> night98: with a mod
#2948 [19:50] <night98> ok
#2949 [19:51] <night98> where can i get a mod
#2950 [19:51] <xales> look on the forums
#2951 [19:51] <night98> ok
#2952 [19:52] <Kealper> you are probably looking for something like Magic Carpet
#2953 [19:55] <night98> is it a addon
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#2955 [19:56] <Kealper> i think it's for Bukkit
#2956 [19:56] <Kealper> but i don't know for sure, never used it, only heard of it
#2957 [19:57] <night98> ok
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#2959 [20:02] <VoxelHead> sup Kapowd
#2960 [20:03] <xales> Voxel, sudo make me a sandwich
#2961 [20:03] <Kapowd> Hola VoxelHead
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#2964 [20:04] <Kapowd> Was just joining to ask if anyone had experience with setting up a Minecraft Classic server on ubuntu server edition.
#2965 [20:05] <VoxelHead> Mmm derbyfag_
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#2972 [20:12] <Kealper> ScarT: fix your connection please.... ._.
#2973 [20:13] <aetherian> yay, it works.
#2974 [20:13] <aetherian> extending displays is trippy...
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#2976 [20:14] <VoxelHead> hay mib_r5ogir whats gaun on
#2977 [20:16] <xales> Voxel, make me a drink but make it nasty! :D!
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#2979 [20:16] * VoxelHead replicates a drink but make it nasty! ! a hands it tae xales
#2979 [20:16] <aetherian> voxel, can you get me a coke?
#2980 [20:16] <VoxelHead> ah'd love to! :)
#2981 [20:17] <aetherian> ...
#2982 [20:17] <aetherian> voxel, anytime now.
#2983 [20:17] * aetherian whistles
#2983 [20:17] <Kealper> Vox, when you get aetherian's Coke, make it warm and flat
#2984 [20:17] <aetherian> nuuuuu
#2985 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> vox, make aetherian a coke
#2986 [20:18] * VoxelHead waves his <notopic>magic wand</notopic>
#2986 [20:18] <VoxelHead> *PING* ... aetherian is a coke
#2987 [20:18] <aetherian> AAAHHHHH
#2988 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> I need to fix those XML tags.
#2989 [20:18] <Kealper> LOL
#2990 [20:18] <EmpiresBane> VoxelHead, can you break your leg for me?
#2991 [20:18] <VoxelHead> certainly
#2992 [20:18] <VoxelHead> stolen?
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#2994 [20:18] <VoxelHead> Wasn't expectin' ScarT!
#2995 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: yes.
#2996 [20:18] * VoxelHead hides.
#2996 [20:18] <aetherian> voxel, make me an aetherial again.
#2997 [20:18] <VoxelHead> Go go gadget magic wand!
#2998 [20:18] <VoxelHead> *PING* ... ye are an aetherial again.
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#3000 [20:19] <aetherian> thank you, voxelhead.
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#3002 [20:19] <VoxelHead> hay scart
#3003 [20:19] <aetherian> scart needs a better connection...
#3004 [20:19] <aetherian> [/hypocrisy]
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#3006 [20:20] <VoxelHead> lol l@@k its ScarT
#3007 [20:20] <Kealper> he does, a SCART just doesn't cut it these days
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#3009 [20:20] <aetherian> vox, make kealper a princess
#3010 [20:21] * VoxelHead lovingly crafts a princess oot o' brownie fur kealper
#3010 [20:21] <aetherian> princess <3
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#3012 [20:22] <aetherian> !zork
#3013 [20:22] <aetherian> aww, that'd be an awesome greybot thing
#3014 [20:23] <aetherian> is it just me who thinks that dualscreen is creepy?
#3015 [20:23] <Kealper> dual screens are great
#3016 [20:23] <aetherian> yes very
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#3018 [20:23] <aetherian> just sorta creepy
#3019 [20:23] <mib_2si2q5> Can someone help me
#3020 [20:23] <aetherian> no.
#3021 [20:23] <mib_2si2q5> i bought the game like 4 days ago and havnt got premium yet
#3022 [20:23] <aetherian> this is only the minecraft help channel
#3023 [20:23] <aetherian> what makes you think we can help
#3024 [20:24] <aetherian> what is your ingame name?
#3025 [20:24] <mib_2si2q5> imsomexican
#3026 [20:24] <aetherian> !pais imsomexican
#3027 [20:24] <aetherian> !paid imsomexican
#3028 [20:24] <xales> mib_2si2q5: are you sure the charge went through, and that you did not buy a gift code?
#3029 [20:24] <mib_2si2q5> yes im surre
#3030 [20:24] <mib_2si2q5> i paid threw paypal
#3031 [20:25] <mib_2si2q5> let me check real quick
#3032 [20:25] <mib_2si2q5> yep
#3033 [20:25] <mib_2si2q5> i paid
#3034 [20:26] <mib_2si2q5> to Mojang AB
#3035 [20:26] <xales> log in on minecraft.net and click "Profile"
#3036 [20:26] <xales> scroll down to the bottom
#3037 [20:26] <xales> are there any giftcodes listed there?
#3038 [20:26] <mib_2si2q5> note
#3039 [20:27] <mib_2si2q5> just says buy more codes
#3040 [20:27] <Kealper> this sounds like a job for.... payment@mojang.com !
#3041 [20:27] <aetherian> :O
#3042 [20:27] <VoxelHead> well slap ma lip a call me VoxelHead
#3043 [20:28] <mib_2si2q5> so what do i do
#3044 [20:28] <Kealper> state the username that you used in there, and include your problem and transaction ID
#3045 [20:28] * AG_Scott puts duct tape on VoxelHead's mouth.
#3045 [20:28] * VoxelHead passes it on tae Lisimba
#3045 [20:28] <mib_2si2q5> ok
#3046 [20:28] <mib_2si2q5> will send email now
#3047 [20:28] <aetherian> vox, make AG_Scott a crumpet
#3048 [20:28] <VoxelHead> *replicates a crumpet a hands it tae AG_Scott*
#3049 [20:28] <aetherian> there
#3050 [20:29] <Kealper> mib_2si2q5: it could take a bit to get a reply, it's late in Sweden right now
#3051 [20:29] * VoxelHead puts its mouth on AG_Scott's duct tape
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#3052 [20:30] <Azu> I am having a silly problem and wondering if it is just my connection.
#3053 [20:30] <xales> what problem?
#3054 [20:30] <Kealper> 503 errors?
#3055 [20:30] <Azu> it happens on multiple servers
#3056 [20:30] <Kealper> bad login?
#3057 [20:30] <Azu> I walk in a straight line
#3058 [20:30] <Azu> and I'm walking faster than the world loads
#3059 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> Azu: you need more alcohol.
#3060 [20:30] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: LOL
#3061 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Azu: more seriously, what sort of connection are you on?
#3062 [20:31] <leftyhero2> that would be an interesting mod.
#3063 [20:32] <Kealper> alcohol? Notch already said he would like to make some sort of malt beverage craftable at some point....
#3064 [20:32] <Azu> I have no idea
#3065 [20:32] <Azu> but
#3066 [20:33] <Azu> this is a sudden thing
#3067 [20:33] <Azu> as in, wasn't happening yesterday, or for the last year
#3068 [20:33] <Kealper> if you want you can test it out on my server to see if it's just those servers that are sucking
#3069 [20:33] <Azu> hell of a coincedence
#3070 [20:34] <Kealper> mc.kealper.com if you wanted to give it a shot
#3071 [20:34] <mib_2si2q5> is the survival thing for Minecraft a mod, or does it come with the game already
#3072 [20:34] <Kealper> survival is a part of minecraft
#3073 [20:34] <Kealper> it's the thing you pay for
#3074 [20:34] <mib_2si2q5> alright cool
#3075 [20:34] <mib_2si2q5> thats why i bought it
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#3078 [20:35] <Nezin> How do i Register in the main #minecraft channel?
#3079 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Nezin irc
#3080 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Nezin: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#3081 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Nezin: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#3082 [20:36] <Jackson413> do /ns help
#3083 [20:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: Vox is a bit rude at times :P
#3084 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> xales: how so?
#3085 [20:37] <Jackson413> wouldnt it be cool to be part of mojang?
#3086 [20:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: read logs :)
#3087 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: I don't know; I don't speek Sweedish
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#3089 [20:38] <Nezin> thank you :)
#3090 [20:38] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's cial
#3091 [20:38] <Jackson413> when i get enough money ill get another home there
#3092 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> xales: it's handing out crumpets and drinks
#3093 [20:38] <xales> DopeGhoti: a bit further up :)
#3094 [20:38] <Cial> rawr
#3095 [20:38] <Jackson413> American piracy laws there don't apply there
#3096 [20:38] <xales> Vox, I heard you had a copy of battletoads lying around
#3097 [20:38] <Kealper> that's my word >.>
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#3099 [20:39] <sluggo> Can anyone help me with my minecraft issues?
#3100 [20:39] <Jackson413> sure
#3101 [20:39] <Jackson413> speak
#3102 [20:40] <Jackson413> or not?
#3103 [20:40] <sluggo> Ok. So i bought and downloaded minecraft today. I got it off the site. And i downloaded everything. I runned the minecraft.exe it took me to the launcher.
#3104 [20:40] <sluggo> I logged in. and i tried to play online but it just took me to the mojang screen then it turned black.
#3105 [20:41] <Jackson413> tell me your specs
#3106 [20:41] <xales> ??> sluggo win/dxdiag
#3107 [20:41] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3108 [20:41] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3109 [20:41] <Jackson413> have you successfully run minecraft on you server?
#3110 [20:41] <VoxelHead> let's a' ask each other! that'll solve this problem!
#3111 [20:41] <Jackson413> computer*
#3112 [20:41] <xales> Jackson413: he pretty much said he didn't..
#3113 [20:41] <xales> <.<
#3114 [20:41] * SkiingPenguins [SkiingPenguins@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3115 [20:41] <VoxelHead> hey SkiingPenguins
#3116 [20:42] <Jackson413> first diagnosis and theory: computer not powerful enough
#3117 [20:42] <xales> Vox, give SkiingPenguins some booze
#3118 [20:42] * VoxelHead gives SkiingPenguins some booze
#3118 [20:43] <Jackson413> lol
#3119 [20:46] * VoxelHead contemplates its lack of a navel
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#3121 [20:46] <sluggo> http://pastebin.com/5MB5xP38 There is the dxdiag.
#3122 [20:47] <xales> oh lord
#3123 [20:47] <Jackson413> not nearly enough ram
#3124 [20:47] <xales> there is your problem
#3125 [20:47] <xales> not enough RAM by far, and that graphics card isn't new enough either
#3126 [20:47] * Jackson413 wonders; in terms of ram; what are megabytes?
#3126 [20:47] <xales> that computer won't run Minecraft, sorry =/
#3127 [20:48] <sluggo> preklomnia!
#3128 [20:48] <Kealper> Azu: http://speedtest.net post the result image url it gives you at the end of the test
#3129 [20:48] <ShaRose> VoxelHead?
#3130 [20:48] <ShaRose> I was at work
#3131 [20:48] <sluggo> Is there any way i could return minecraft?
#3132 [20:49] <Kealper> sluggo: how long ago did you buy it?
#3133 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: a Megabyte is 1024 Kilobytes; a Kilobyte is 1024 bytes; a byte is four nibbles; a nibble is two bits.
#3134 [20:49] <sluggo> i bought it today.
#3135 [20:49] <xales> sluggo: yes; email payment@mojang.com - though in all seriousness, it's probably time to get a computer that's a bit...modern, so you can play games. if you plan on that, it would probably be best to just keep minecraft until then
#3136 [20:50] * Jackson413 finally gets what a megabyte, in terms of ram is
#3136 [20:50] <sluggo> holy ish i know but my dad to booty to buy a new computer cause hes to much of a fien.
#3137 [20:50] * brienza [brienza@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3138 [20:50] <VoxelHead> hi brienza
#3139 [20:50] <brienza> Hi
#3140 [20:50] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: were you joking back or were you serious?
#3141 [20:50] <xales> Voxel, get brienza some booze please
#3142 [20:50] <xales> Jackson413: serious
#3143 [20:51] <Jackson413> xales: lol
#3144 [20:51] <xales> :P
#3145 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: no, those are accurate designations.
#3146 [20:51] <Kealper> Jackson413: he was totally serious
#3147 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Things that are also two bits, partial list: A shave and a haircut.
#3148 [20:51] <Jackson413> i remember when my dad got his first comp in 1999 and it had that much
#3149 [20:52] <brienza> Do placed snow blocks ever melt? I want to make a giant 6 sided die.
#3150 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> my first computer had a 1MHz CPU and 64KiB of RAM, and two 5.25", 142KiB floppy disk drives.
#3151 [20:52] <xales> brienza: not unless you put a torch next to em, but I'm not even sure about that
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#3153 [20:52] <Jackson413> ...damn,,,,,,,,,
#3154 [20:52] <Jackson413> herp derp
#3155 [20:52] <Kealper> i can remember this 233Mhz computer my dad got from when he worked at Best Buy for really cheap because the epic employee discount...first computer i could play Doom on :o
#3156 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> IIRC snow blocks won't melt from torches, but will from fire
#3157 [20:52] <brienza> Alright, wool it is.
#3158 [20:52] <VoxelHead> i'm making a cake
#3159 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Let's make biscuits... LET'S MAKE BISCUITS.
#3160 [20:52] <genshou> o/
#3161 [20:52] <Azu> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1180379955.png
#3162 [20:52] <Azu> :|
#3163 [20:53] <Azu> 1/8 ISP average
#3164 [20:53] <xales> Azu: that...would be the problem =/
#3165 [20:53] <Kealper> Azu: are you on wireless?
#3166 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you needed 233MHz for Doom? I played it to completion on my 16MHz 80386!
#3167 [20:53] <Azu> desktop wired directly to the modem
#3168 [20:53] <xales> if it's pinging that high, it's probably an issue that you could fix
#3169 [20:53] <Jackson413> this reminds me of a friend that took a 1989 macintosh and took out all of its insides, and replaced them with the components of a macbook pro
#3170 [20:53] <xales> do you have any antivirus software installed on your desktop?
#3171 [20:53] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: did the Ultimate Doom work on that low of specs? i can't remmeber :/
#3172 [20:54] <Azu> oh god, generic mcafee crap
#3173 [20:54] <Kealper> Azu: does your modem have wireless though?
#3174 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: full screen in "fast" gfx mode; postage-stamp sized screen in "good" gfx mode (:
#3175 [20:54] <Azu> there's also a wireless router in there
#3176 [20:54] <brienza> I'm sad that when I get a new laptop McAfee is practically mandatory
#3177 [20:54] <Kealper> is that router secured?
#3178 [20:54] <Azu> spybot search and destroy is here
#3179 [20:54] <Azu> um.
#3180 [20:55] <Jackson413> *cough cough* pirate it? cough cough cough*
#3181 [20:55] <xales> Azu: are you using any other programs currently on the internet?
#3182 [20:55] <Kealper> because something or someone is just raping your internet bandwidth....no one would have 2x more upload speed than their download
#3183 [20:55] <brienza> Pirate what? McAfee?
#3184 [20:55] <xales> like, someone else in the house, or possibly you, downloading torrents?
#3185 [20:55] <xales> brienza: who would want to pirate that garbage =/
#3186 [20:55] <brienza> Exactly.
#3187 [20:55] <Azu> nothing else in this house has internet connectivity
#3188 [20:55] <brienza> That's why I'm confused.
#3189 [20:55] <Kealper> Jackson413: McAfee isn't worth the bandwidth it'd take to download it
#3190 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: we don't take kindly to that kind of talk 'round these parts.
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#3192 [20:55] <xales> Azu: download this and run a full scan; http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php
#3193 [20:56] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: very well, simply testing the water
#3194 [20:56] <SkiingPenguins> MBAM!! WOOOOOO!!!!!
#3195 [20:56] <Jackson413> :D
#3196 [20:56] <VoxelHead> I like you =]
#3197 [20:56] <VoxelHead> -_-
#3198 [20:56] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#3199 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead, courtmartial Jackson413
#3200 [20:56] <Kealper> Azu: and if that doesn't find anything...unplug that wireless router
#3201 [20:56] * VoxelHead throws jackson413 in the brig to await charges
#3201 [20:56] <brienza> MBAM takes a lot of memory when running scans
#3202 [20:56] <Jackson413> lmao
#3203 [20:56] <Kealper> brienza: but it gets the job done
#3204 [20:56] <brienza> True
#3205 [20:56] <Kealper> very well, too
#3206 [20:56] <VoxelHead> Jackson413, you are charged with phase-shifting the entire male crew, and plotting with the Crystalline Entity(tm)
#3207 [20:56] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to be Neelix's food taster for a day. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#3208 [20:57] <xales> ._.
#3209 [20:57] <M> ._.
#3210 [20:57] <Kealper> lol
#3211 [20:57] <SkiingPenguins> umm isnt that from star trek
#3212 [20:57] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#3213 [20:57] <xales> Voxel: courtmartial StarTrek
#3214 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Who?
#3215 [20:57] <xales> damn you
#3216 [20:57] * Jackson413 breaks out of jail, turns invisible, and enslaves the whole world, forcing them to power his giant computer that was build for minecraft
#3216 [20:57] <Jackson413> derp
#3217 [20:57] <xales> VoxelHead, serve a pile of jail to StarTrek
#3218 [20:57] * SkiingPenguins conquers Jackson413 with a zat gun
#3218 [20:57] <Kealper> Voxel: courtmarshal Admiral Akbar
#3219 [20:58] <xales> Kealper: it's martial
#3220 [20:58] <Kealper> Voxel: make sure he doesn't see it coming though
#3221 [20:58] <VoxelHead> *replicates he doesn't see it coming though for sure*
#3222 [20:58] <xales> lol
#3223 [20:58] <Kealper> xales: bah
#3224 [20:58] * Jackson413 clones 1^100 of himself
#3224 [20:58] * Jackson413 causes the world to end
#3224 [20:58] * xales goes back to work now ._.
#3224 [20:58] <Jackson413> :D
#3225 [20:58] <Kealper> :/
#3226 [20:58] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3227 [20:58] * SkiingPenguins goes back to installing slax
#3227 [20:58] <Jackson413> o_oo_oo_o
#3228 [20:59] <Jackson413> derp
#3229 [20:59] <Kealper> :_:
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#3231 [20:59] <VoxelHead> Sup Blue_star.
#3232 [20:59] <Jackson413> gonna go cut wrists now, 3 derps in less than 15
#3233 [20:59] <Blue_Star> hi
#3234 [20:59] <Kealper> i take it Azu unplugged his/her router
#3235 [21:00] <Blue_Star> has someone a minecraft server on a linux server ?
#3236 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> Blue_Star: I do; why?
#3237 [21:02] <VoxelHead> Oh yeah? fuck your theory.
#3238 [21:03] * SkiingPenguins thought VoxelHead was a robot
#3238 [21:03] <VoxelHead> Praise be to you.
#3239 [21:03] <Blue_Star> we want set a server on linux ..but we must have open the window ? can we do it that the server runs in background ?
#3240 [21:04] <clank714> CLANK OUT
#3241 [21:05] <Kealper> clank714: i hope that is not a script
#3242 [21:08] <clank714> CLANK IN
#3243 [21:08] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#3244 [21:10] * DopeGhoti kicked clank714 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: CLANK OUT)
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#3246 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> autorejoin, eh?
#3247 [21:11] <Con> six seconds
#3248 [21:11] <Kealper> i doubt it, was about 5-6 sec
#3249 [21:11] <Blue_Star> lag ^^
#3250 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> Blue_Star: run the .jar in screen with the nogui option.
#3251 [21:11] <Kealper> clank714: if that CLANK OUT and CLANK IN is a script, turn it off, it is now allowed in this channel
#3252 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> s/now/not/#FTFY
#3253 [21:11] <Kealper> yeah, that
#3254 [21:12] <Kealper> NOT allowed...lol
#3255 [21:12] <Blue_Star> DopeGhoti ok we try thx
#3256 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> Blue_Star: good luck!
#3257 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> note to self: finish that primer on Screen.
#3258 [21:12] <Kealper> lol
#3259 [21:14] <clank714> Kealper: Not a script
#3260 [21:14] <Kealper> seems like it....i've seen you do it a few times now >.>
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#3262 [21:14] <clank714> yah u do that when I goafksometimes
#3263 [21:15] <clank714> *I
#3264 [21:15] <Kealper> weird...
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#3266 [21:16] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#3267 [21:16] <Con> /amsg
#3268 [21:16] <Con> VoxelHead shut up
#3269 [21:16] <clank714> behold what
#3270 [21:16] * VoxelHead talks to GLaDOS instead
#3270 [21:16] <Con> :D
#3271 [21:16] <Kealper> lol
#3272 [21:16] <clank714> :D
#3273 [21:17] <clank714> </3
#3274 [21:18] * Kealper slaps AuBot around a bit with a large trout
#3274 [21:18] <Kealper> disregard that....was just testing an alias to see if i typed it right lol
#3275 [21:19] <clank714> I AM A BOT
#3276 [21:19] * SkiingPenguins thinks school's IT lady was snooping in his files, there is a desktop.inf in here
#3276 [21:19] <clank714> no im not
#3277 [21:19] <clank714> yes I am
#3278 [21:19] <clank714> no I'm not
#3279 [21:19] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: your own computer?
#3280 [21:20] <SkiingPenguins> no, my school files which i back up to my usb drive
#3281 [21:20] <Kealper> lol.....
#3282 [21:20] <clank714> I hack my schools network
#3283 [21:20] <clank714> they use a VNC server
#3284 [21:20] <SkiingPenguins> mine does too
#3285 [21:20] <clank714> I shut it down
#3286 [21:20] <Kealper> i've been at a school that used VNC
#3287 [21:21] <Kealper> current one uses nothing :/
#3288 [21:21] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper i made autohotkey script to grab their settings/password and eh.. not very smart lady. she made it remove wallpaper when being watched.
#3289 [21:21] <clank714> lol
#3290 [21:21] <Kealper> FAIL
#3291 [21:21] <Kealper> lol
#3292 [21:22] <clank714> may I have that script soon
#3293 [21:22] <SkiingPenguins> lol no.
#3294 [21:22] <Kealper> my teacher would always hate it in that school that used it.....i'd always notice the VNC icon change to show they were watching....
#3295 [21:22] <clank714> DAMNIT
#3296 [21:22] <SkiingPenguins> she also made it so the IP, hostname, and mac address are shown on the desktop wallpaper..
#3297 [21:22] <clank714> LOL
#3298 [21:22] <Kealper> but they didn't have it set up so users could not disconnect clients....
#3299 [21:22] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper my it lady was atleast smart enough to hide the vnc icon
#3300 [21:23] <Kealper> lol
#3301 [21:23] <SkiingPenguins> i can vnc to my teacher's computer from my ipod touch on their unprotected wifi. WHAT THE FUUU
#3302 [21:23] <clank714> Mine just shows the VNC icon so I dc'ed my computer from the server
#3303 [21:23] <clank714> lol
#3304 [21:23] <Kealper> it was always fun smacking the disconnect all clients button in the right click menu of the vnc icon
#3305 [21:23] <SkiingPenguins> seeing as how the ip of the computer is shown on the smart board...
#3306 [21:23] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#3307 [21:24] <clank714> you should have wrote "fuck you"
#3308 [21:25] <clank714> My schools IT person is stupid
#3309 [21:26] <clank714> they combined logmein with VNC
#3310 [21:26] <SkiingPenguins> ive never used logmein
#3311 [21:26] <clank714> and so if VNC dies both will die lol
#3312 [21:26] <Kealper> it's not bad, but i've had some prying eyes with it, so i don't use it anymore
#3313 [21:27] <Kealper> school i'm at now keylogs shit.....ended up catching a connection from the building's ISP to my home computer while i was on it....hurried up and disconnected it :/
#3314 [21:28] <SkiingPenguins> wtf law suit
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#3316 [21:28] <SkiingPenguins> my school lets us go to accessories -> system tools -> system information
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#3318 [21:29] * VoxelHead is away: bnar
#3318 [21:29] <Kealper> i love how it feigns sentience by randomly going afk...lol
#3319 [21:30] <nevercast> Kealper, might be moving my VPS.
#3320 [21:30] <Kealper> to where?
#3321 [21:30] <nevercast> Kealper, chicagovps.net
#3322 [21:30] <nevercast> Kealper, Professional package.
#3323 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: cheap?
#3324 [21:30] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, 14.99 USD
#3325 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> so, no.
#3326 [21:30] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, 1GB Ram
#3327 [21:30] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Cheaper than what I'm paying now
#3328 [21:30] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Currently $19USD for 512MB
#3329 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> I'm paying GBP4/mo
#3330 [21:31] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, With who?
#3331 [21:31] <Kealper> MAKE SURE YOU GET ZEN NOT OPENVZ
#3332 [21:31] <nevercast> Kealper, It's xen.
#3333 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Xen.
#3334 [21:31] <Kealper> wow
#3335 [21:31] <SkiingPenguins> first courtmarshal then zen
#3336 [21:31] <Kealper> how'd i ge that wrong?
#3337 [21:31] <Kealper> get*
#3338 [21:31] <nevercast> Kealper, lol.
#3339 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> uddhist much?
#3340 [21:31] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Who you with.
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#3342 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: some cheap host in the UK
#3343 [21:31] <Kealper> totally mityped it as zen at first and backspaced it to correct it
#3344 [21:31] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Name?
#3345 [21:32] <helpmee> Can somone help me?
#3346 [21:32] <SkiingPenguins> yes
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#3349 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: voserve IIRC. Want a referral code?
#3350 [21:32] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, please?
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#3352 [21:32] <helpmee> i need help
#3353 [21:32] <helpmee> :O
#3354 [21:32] * Con couldn't've guessed
#3354 [21:32] <Kealper> ?? ask
#3355 [21:32] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3356 [21:33] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3357 [21:33] <helpmee> Ok
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#3359 [21:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, It's OpenVZ.
#3360 [21:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Do they do XEN?
#3361 [21:33] <nevercast> Kealper, What's the Pro/Con between Xen and OpenVZ?
#3362 [21:33] <Con> Cons are better
#3363 [21:34] <Kealper> OpenVZ does not garuntee resources, Xen does
#3364 [21:34] <Kealper> OpenVZ lets you cram a ton of VMs on a single machine becuase everything is shared
#3365 [21:34] <Kealper> at the cost of performance though
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#3368 [21:34] <Kealper> they work fine for webservers and such, horrible for game servers
#3369 [21:34] <helpmee> I am trying to install X-Ray mod, It says i should install modloader then xray mod to overwrite a file, i extract both files, overwrite the files, then put them in minecraft.jar, delete he "META" file, close it. The modloader file works, and creates a file, but the xray mod doesnt work
#3370 [21:34] <drezi> i need help with hmod 1.3
#3371 [21:34] <Kealper> ?? mods
#3372 [21:34] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3373 [21:35] <drezi> i keep healing automaticly
#3374 [21:35] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3375 [21:35] <drezi> its on peaceful
#3376 [21:35] <drezi> and i can't take it off
#3377 [21:35] <Kealper> drezi: that's why
#3378 [21:35] <Kealper> turn on monsters
#3379 [21:35] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3380 [21:35] <buddyr> can someone walk me thfough making a javapath?
#3381 [21:35] <drezi> i dont want mosters tho
#3382 [21:35] <Kealper> drezi: they you're stuck with healing :/
#3383 [21:35] <drezi> :/
#3384 [21:35] <helpmee> What is the problem?
#3385 [21:36] <Kealper> anyone aside from me know how to set up PATH stuff on windows?
#3386 [21:36] <Con> no?
#3387 [21:36] <nevercast> Kealper, I do
#3388 [21:36] <Con> helpmee: You're moving the files around wrong
#3389 [21:36] <nevercast> Kealper, System properties method or Cmd prompt method?
#3390 [21:36] <Kealper> nevercast: buddyr needs java in his PATH, do it the easy GUI way lol
#3391 [21:36] <Kealper> and on that note.....afk
#3392 [21:36] <nevercast> Kealper, okay
#3393 [21:36] <nevercast> buddyr, Hey
#3394 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: set up a FAQ entry for it :p
#3395 [21:37] <nevercast> buddyr, I'll be your assistance for today.
#3396 [21:37] * DopeGhoti really goes home now.
#3396 [21:37] <nevercast> buddyr, It's correct that you have java path problems, Yes?
#3397 [21:37] <buddyr> all I need to know is where to do it :)
#3398 [21:37] <nevercast> Bye DopeGhoti
#3399 [21:37] <buddyr> sry double post
#3400 [21:37] <buddyr> yes
#3401 [21:37] <nevercast> buddyr, What windows are you running?
#3402 [21:37] <buddyr> 64 bit windows 7
#3403 [21:37] <nevercast> buddyr, Okay one moment.
#3404 [21:38] <buddyr> kk
#3405 [21:38] <nevercast> buddyr, Can you hold the Windows Key
#3406 [21:38] <nevercast> and press 'Pause Break'
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#3409 [21:39] <buddyr> didn't do anything
#3410 [21:39] <nevercast> Did it not?
#3411 [21:39] <buddyr> ok it did the second time
#3412 [21:40] <helpmee> Con, what do you mean by moving the files wrong?
#3413 [21:40] <nevercast> buddyr, Okay good. Do you have a bunch of System information in front of you?
#3414 [21:41] <buddyr> yep
#3415 [21:41] <nevercast> buddyr, Down the side, do you have a bar that says 'Environment Variables' ?
#3416 [21:42] <buddyr> don't see it
#3417 [21:42] <nevercast> buddyr, Okay if you wait about 20 seconds. My Virtual Windows 7 image will have started and I can help you more efficiently
#3418 [21:43] <buddyr> kk
#3419 [21:43] <buddyr> ok I can take it from here :)
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#3421 [21:44] <buddyr> I just clicked the start menu and typed to search my computer
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#3423 [21:44] <buddyr> for environment variables
#3424 [21:44] <nevercast> buddyr, You got a result?
#3425 [21:44] <buddyr> yep
#3426 [21:44] <nevercast> buddyr, Okay well good. I'll keep that approach in mind for future.
#3427 [21:44] <nevercast> Sometimes things are a lot easier than first thought.
#3428 [21:44] <buddyr> and I remember now, looking at it how to set up a path :)
#3429 [21:44] <nevercast> buddyr, just remember to have the semi colon in there.
#3430 [21:45] <nevercast> and to have the /bin/ part of your JRE in there.
#3431 [21:45] <buddyr> ya if you type Environment variables, it brings up an edit environment variables there..
#3432 [21:45] <buddyr> ah ok :) thanks
#3433 [21:45] <buddyr> you guys are awesome...
#3434 [21:45] <nevercast> buddyr, You're welcome, and thank you. I'll keep the search in mind for future :)
#3435 [21:45] <buddyr> yaw should charge for this service :)
#3436 [21:45] <buddyr> take care all
#3437 [21:45] <nevercast> you too. Bye.
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#3439 [21:50] <nevercast> Hello mr_trousers.
#3440 [21:50] <mr_trousers> Hello.
#3441 [21:50] <nevercast> mr_trousers, Are you looking for assistance?
#3442 [21:51] <mr_trousers> Somewhat.. Issues with purchasing Minecraft.... How can I purchase Minecraft in USD's, without making a paypal,?
#3443 [21:51] <xales> you just use a credit card or debit card
#3444 [21:51] <xales> you can use it on Paypal as well, without creating an account
#3445 [21:52] <mr_trousers> Okay..
#3446 [21:52] <mr_trousers> Thanks.
#3447 [21:52] <nevercast> xales, IKR
#3448 [21:53] <xales> nevercast: have you seen http://scenes.at/helpgame ? ._.
#3449 [21:53] <nevercast> xales, no....
#3450 [21:53] <xales> go and see it :)
#3451 [21:53] <nevercast> xales, Is VoxelHead yours?
#3452 [21:55] <nevercast> xales, Heh! #help probably get a bunch of Minecraft shit
#3453 [21:55] <xales> yeah, we do ._.
#3454 [21:55] <xales> and nope, VoxelHead is DopeGhoti's
#3455 [21:55] <nevercast> xales, You're in #help?
#3456 [21:55] <xales> I'm an op in #help :P
#3457 [21:55] <nevercast> xales, what is your association with Esper?
#3458 [21:55] <nevercast> ... What IS Esper lol.
#3459 [21:55] <xales> idunno
#3460 [21:56] <nevercast> xales, just been around awhile?
#3461 [21:56] <xales> 21:56:05 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- xales is xales
#3462 [21:56] <xales> 21:56:05 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Is online from: xales@darksigns.net
#3463 [21:56] <xales> 21:56:05 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Time registered: Dec 16 13:55:11 2010
#3464 [21:56] <xales> :P
#3465 [21:58] <xales> and I guess to answer your question, I'm just a normal user, but they like me or something :P
#3466 [21:59] <Shadow386> yeah you're OP on almost every channel lol
#3467 [21:59] <Shadow386> well the major ones
#3468 [21:59] <Shadow386> idk why, you're a horrible person ;]
#3469 [22:01] <xales> actually
#3470 [22:01] <xales> I am an op on the 5 biggest non-s channels on the network, excluding #bukkit IIRC
#3471 [22:01] <xales> and #bukkit-related
#3472 [22:02] <Shadow386> must suck
#3473 [22:04] <xales> yep
#3474 [22:04] <xales> :P
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#3476 [22:06] <Kite_> hello
#3477 [22:07] <xales> hi
#3478 [22:07] <Kite_> I purchased a gift code the other day
#3479 [22:07] <Kite_> And I still havent recieved it
#3480 [22:08] <xales> did you check your spam folder, or your profile on minecraft.net?
#3481 [22:09] <Kite_> Does the code deliever to the email inbox or to the profile?
#3482 [22:09] <xales> both
#3483 [22:09] <xales> go to http://minecraft.net/ and log in, click "profile" and scroll to the bottom
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#3485 [22:13] <Kite_> Would it just say that I have a code to redeem?
#3486 [22:13] <xales> it would list the code there, at the bottom of the page, yes
#3487 [22:13] <Kite_> Okay, so it's been 2 days, and I havent recieved anything.
#3488 [22:14] <xales> there is no code listed there?
#3489 [22:14] <Kite_> Nope.
#3490 [22:15] <xales> did the account you bought it on have premium?
#3491 [22:15] <Kite_> No.
#3492 [22:15] <xales> what is the username of the account?
#3493 [22:16] <Kite_> jmmx3
#3494 [22:19] <xales> well, I see the problem
#3495 [22:19] <xales> you didn't buy a giftcode
#3496 [22:19] <xales> you bought a premium account
#3497 [22:19] <Kite_> so jmmx3 is a premium account?
#3498 [22:20] <xales> yes
#3499 [22:20] <Kite_> okay, so could I just do an account name change at a later time?
#3500 [22:22] <xales> possibly
#3501 [22:22] <xales> there is no plan to change the username, but it may be possible at some point in the future to change the name displayed while playing multiplayer
#3502 [22:23] <Kite_> Well...
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#3504 [22:23] <Kite_> I wanted to gift the game to my friend
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#3506 [22:23] <Kite_> and I dont think they wanted to use "jmmx3"
#3507 [22:24] <aetherian> hey people, hey vox.
#3508 [22:24] <xales> Kite_: well, you didn't purchase a gift code, so that is the problem
#3509 [22:25] <Kite_> Right.
#3510 [22:25] <xales> you could try emailing payment@mojang.com to get the premium status transferred, but they may not do it (you get what you get, if you bought premium, that's what you get)
#3511 [22:25] <xales> but you might get them to do it, so who knows? best to try
#3512 [22:25] <Kite_> lol okay
#3513 [22:25] <Kite_> thank you
#3514 [22:26] <Meyobrin> And I'm back after like five hours, heh.. If anyone has any ideas to help me, it would be greatly appreciated. - My issue is that, while singleplayer survival mode is running perfectly fine, ~any~ multiplayer server experiences what you would call lag. Both the server hosts and players on multiple servers elaborate they are not experiencing lag. The delay---
#3515 [22:26] <Meyobrin> ---in action is sometimes up to 20 seconds or more.
#3516 [22:26] <Meyobrin> I have deleted apps data and reinstalled, using both the browser and the .exe. I have updated Java and deleted multiple occurances.
#3517 [22:26] <Meyobrin> I have turned off my firewalls, and even attempted creating a new user account in XP.
#3518 [22:27] <Meyobrin> And I think I'm missing something else I've tried.
#3519 [22:27] <Meyobrin> Reitterating, the issue I'm experiencing is unplayable client lag during multiplayer sessions, that lacks any issue on the server's side.
#3520 [22:28] <Meyobrin> Help is greatly appreciated in advance.
#3521 [22:28] <xales> Meyobrin: http://speedtest.n/et
#3522 [22:28] <xales> err
#3523 [22:28] <xales> Meyobrin: http://speedtest.net/ rather
#3524 [22:28] <xales> run that, "copy direct link" and paste it here
#3525 [22:29] <Meyobrin> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1180470196.png
#3526 [22:30] <Meyobrin> T:
#3527 [22:30] <xales> that's...interesting
#3528 [22:30] <xales> do you have any firewall running on your computer?
#3529 [22:31] <Meyobrin> As I said, I've disabled them in attempts to run the game.
#3530 [22:31] <Meyobrin> Continue to experience the issue.
#3531 [22:31] <xales> "them"?
#3532 [22:31] <aetherian> whoa, Meyobrin, is that home internet/
#3533 [22:31] <aetherian> *?
#3534 [22:31] <xales> that...could be the issue
#3535 [22:31] <xales> aetherian: mine is faster :P
#3536 [22:31] <aetherian> xales: mine is slower :P
#3537 [22:31] <xales> though I cheated a bit
#3538 [22:31] <Meyobrin> It feels like my client just isn't updating properly and that was a Typo Xales
#3539 [22:31] <aetherian> stealing internet from the neighbourhood, xales?
#3540 [22:32] <Meyobrin> Just one firewall, which isn't even much of a firewall; Just the one thats with XP.
#3541 [22:32] <aetherian> which one...
#3542 [22:32] <xales> windows Xp you derp
#3543 [22:32] <xales> err
#3544 [22:32] <Meyobrin> I've had multiplayer running fine on this PC before my latest reformat.
#3545 [22:32] <xales> windows firewall
#3546 [22:32] <xales> rather
#3547 [22:32] <Meyobrin> Yush.
#3548 [22:32] <xales> Meyobrin: latest Java?
#3549 [22:32] <Meyobrin> Yes. As stated previously.
#3550 [22:32] * aetherian laughs
#3550 [22:32] <Meyobrin> No extra instances of Java either.
#3551 [22:32] <xales> right <.<
#3552 [22:32] <Meyobrin> Which there was, but removed, and still yielded no results.
#3553 [22:33] <Meyobrin> *Has deleted app data and reinstalled minecraft after each attempted fix thus far to flush any possible bugs as well*
#3554 [22:33] <xales> press F3 while in multiplayer and it is lagging; is the FPS higher than normal?
#3555 [22:33] <Meyobrin> Its not the FPS. Theres no choppyness. Its interaction updating.
#3556 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Break a block, it respawns
#3557 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Or just doesn't yield sand in, say
#3558 [22:34] <Meyobrin> 20 seconds
#3559 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Run across the map
#3560 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Rubberband back to where I was half a minute later
#3561 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Punch a sheep, but..
#3562 [22:34] <Meyobrin> Not
#3563 [22:34] <xales> I understand that; however, if it was a hardware IO issue, the FPS would suffer greatly from it, but display different symptoms of this while playing
#3564 [22:35] <Meyobrin> Hmm.. I can try, but again the game seemed to run smooth. It felt at least 13+ FPS.
#3565 [22:35] <Meyobrin> One moment as I check.
#3566 [22:35] <Meyobrin> F3, right?
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#3568 [22:35] <Cockblox> REGISTER monkeys supermankm@msn.com
#3569 [22:35] <Cockblox> meow
#3570 [22:35] <Cockblox> haha nice
#3571 [22:35] <xales> :P
#3572 [22:35] <xales> you forgot the "/msg nickserv " bit
#3573 [22:36] <Cockblox> good thing I made a random password
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#3575 [22:36] <Cockblox> Ahaha
#3576 [22:36] <Meyobrin> Hahah wow, I'm running like 50+ FPS, Xales
#3577 [22:36] <xales> Meyobrin: is that what you normally get, in singleplayer?
#3578 [22:36] <Meyobrin> *Falls infinitely in blue for a while until the map loads*
#3579 [22:36] <xales> I got like 200+ <.<
#3580 [22:36] <Meyobrin> I suppose, like I said I really don't pay attention as long as its not choppy
#3581 [22:36] <navysealltblue> Any ideas why I keep getting stuck on the Mojang load screen in web and standalone in Win7 rightnow?
#3582 [22:37] <Meyobrin> *Creates a new world, again, real quick*
#3583 [22:37] <xales> ??> navysealltblue win/reinst
#3584 [22:37] <VoxelHead> navysealltblue: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3585 [22:37] <VoxelHead> navysealltblue: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3587 [22:37] <Meyobrin> *Hopes it doesn't spawn a freaking zombie spawn next to him again*
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#3589 [22:37] <navysealltblue> Thanks, I've give it a try.
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#3591 [22:38] <Cockblox> So I have an odd problem with MC. The other day I was playing MC fine, running a server for my bros, had Runecraft and the Minimap Mod on it...Then I decided to delete it all and start fresh because the folder was messy as hell.
#3592 [22:38] <Cockblox> And now I can't seem to get the mods working. Doing the same exact thing as last time lol.
#3593 [22:39] <Meyobrin> Xales: Hilariously I'm running at like a third of the FPS (around 15+), but of course thats because the map is generating
#3594 [22:39] <Iocamus> Alright so.
#3595 [22:39] <Iocamus> I need help with my minecraft packages.
#3596 [22:39] <Iocamus> They do not want to download...
#3597 [22:39] <xales> Iocamus: why not?
#3598 [22:40] <navysealltblue> No luck with deleting bin folder
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#3600 [22:40] <Iocamus> If I knew that I wouldnt be asking.
#3601 [22:40] <Iocamus> Eh Xales?
#3602 [22:40] <Iocamus> =P
#3603 [22:40] <xales> Meyobrin: can you try connecting to 'smp.shadow-craft.net' - that's known to work and not be laggy
#3604 [22:40] <drezi> how do i put the nether on my MC server?
#3605 [22:40] <Iocamus> Let me get to the post for a moment
#3606 [22:40] <xales> drezi: you can turn it on, but it means the entire server will be Nether
#3607 [22:40] <Iocamus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=165983
#3608 [22:40] <xales> you cannot make portals work, however
#3609 [22:40] <Iocamus> When I start my new launcher.
#3610 [22:41] <Iocamus> I login
#3611 [22:41] <Iocamus> ANd it auto starts downloading packages
#3612 [22:41] <Iocamus> It only gets http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/screener50/help.png this far
#3613 [22:41] <Iocamus> And stops.
#3614 [22:41] <navysealltblue> xales: Any other suggestions? Reinstalling the bin folder didn't fix it.
#3615 [22:41] <xales> Iocamus: if you are at school, then it's 99% likely that they are blocking it
#3616 [22:41] <xales> it's a network issue, anyway
#3617 [22:41] <Iocamus> Im not at school.
#3618 [22:41] <xales> ??> navysealltblue win/profile
#3619 [22:41] <VoxelHead> navysealltblue: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3620 [22:41] <Meyobrin> Xales: Give me one moment. Trying your non-laggy server, so that at least you can know its not a server issue. T:
#3621 [22:41] <VoxelHead> navysealltblue: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3622 [22:41] <Iocamus> My problem is slightly different.
#3623 [22:41] <drezi> i see many server with the nether and the surface
#3624 [22:41] <Iocamus> Im at home.
#3625 [22:41] <drezi> t:/
#3626 [22:41] <Iocamus> And its not letting me.
#3627 [22:42] <xales> Iocamus: oh, the OP said they were at school
#3628 [22:42] <xales> drezi: they are using mods, which we do not provide support for
#3629 [22:42] <Cockblox> So am I doing something wrong with installing my mods? Dropping the Modloader v5 as well as the minimap mod in my minecraft.jar...The game runs, but the mod doesn't...
#3630 [22:42] <drezi> do you know were i could get said mod?
#3631 [22:42] <xales> ??> Cockblox mods
#3632 [22:42] <VoxelHead> Cockblox: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3633 [22:42] <Iocamus> Yah, but my probs abit different.
#3634 [22:42] <VoxelHead> Cockblox: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3635 [22:42] <xales> drezi: try google.
#3636 [22:42] <Meyobrin> @Xales: *Proceeds to fall for about half a minute in blue*
#3637 [22:42] <Iocamus> So any idea on how i'd go about fixing this ZXales?
#3638 [22:42] <Cockblox> Oh thanks bros.
#3639 [22:42] <xales> Iocamus: are you running a firewall on your computer, or any kind of parental controls?
#3640 [22:43] <drezi> hmm google... i have nvr tryed that before. i'll give it a whirl :P
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#3642 [22:43] <Iocamus> Eh just windows firewall.
#3643 [22:43] <xales> Iocamus: antivirus?
#3644 [22:43] <Iocamus> Uhm
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#3646 [22:43] <Iocamus> AVG
#3647 [22:43] <xales> the free version?
#3648 [22:43] <Iocamus> Nah
#3649 [22:44] <Meyobrin> Xales: Does this server you just linked me have delete/create protection on?
#3650 [22:44] <xales> Meyobrin: yes
#3651 [22:44] <navysealltblue> xales: When it says create a new profile, they mean on the website? and won't that not prove anything since I wont be able to play the game without paying for the game on that account?
#3652 [22:44] <xales> navysealltblue: no, a new profile "user" on your computer
#3653 [22:44] <Meyobrin> Xales: I can't really test my issue then, since thats the easiest way to test the lag.
#3654 [22:44] <xales> Meyobrin: chat is easier :)
#3655 [22:44] <xales> Iocamus: O_o
#3656 [22:44] <Meyobrin> Xales: True enough, but chat actually seems to be the least affected issue.
#3657 [22:44] <Iocamus> Hm?
#3658 [22:44] <xales> Iocamus: protip: all good antivirus programs are free, you have no real need to pay for one =/
#3659 [22:45] <xales> anyway
#3660 [22:45] <Iocamus> Aha.
#3661 [22:45] <xales> try completely disabling AVG
#3662 [22:45] <Meyobrin> Xales: Ohp, while I was alt-tabbed, it rubberbanded me back to spawn.
#3663 [22:45] <xales> go into it, select all the components, and make sure they are disabled
#3664 [22:45] <xales> one by one <.<
#3665 [22:45] <sinedeviance> hey xales
#3666 [22:45] <sinedeviance> long time no see man
#3667 [22:45] <xales> hi sinedeviance
#3668 [22:45] <sinedeviance> whats been up?
#3669 [22:45] <xales> not much
#3670 [22:46] <xales> also, this will probably amuse you :) http://scenes.at/helpgame
#3671 [22:46] <xales> ^given out at least daily =/
#3672 [22:46] <Meyobrin> Xales: Cannot pick up items either it seems. So yes, my issue is still occuring even on a 'lag free' server. T:
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#3674 [22:46] <xales> Meyobrin: it started doing this when you reformatted, you said?
#3675 [22:47] <navysealltblue> hey xales, I was just about to create a new win profile, when the game loaded the main menu (7 minutes later) before doing the new profile thing, does that help in the troubleshooting at all?
#3676 [22:47] <Iocamus> Did not work Xales =(
#3677 [22:47] <xales> Iocamus: you turned everything off, including and especially "resident shield"?
#3678 [22:47] <Meyobrin> Xales: Since my reformat, yes. Yesterday was the first time I reinstalled minecraft, a friend of mine wanted me on his server. I go in, and instantly complain about lag. I'm then informed that no one else has experienced lag. -- Thus for the past two days I've been going over anything that could be wrong.
#3679 [22:47] <Iocamus> I only turned off resident shield
#3680 [22:47] <xales> navysealltblue: that's..odd
#3681 [22:48] <xales> Iocamus: try turning off everything =/
#3682 [22:48] <Iocamus> What would the other stuff have to do with Minecraft?
#3683 [22:48] <navysealltblue> xales: You are telling me. Never had a problem with minecraft in the past :P
#3684 [22:48] <xales> navysealltblue: are you running any mods?
#3685 [22:48] <sinedeviance> xales: thats pretty lol.
#3686 [22:48] <xales> Iocamus: antivirus programs like to break other programs
#3687 [22:49] <navysealltblue> xales: I was running optimine, but I reverted to my original jar to test, same thing with that
#3688 [22:49] <xales> Meyobrin: is this a custom built computer?
#3689 [22:49] <xales> navysealltblue: it could be RAM-related - do you have a lot of other programs open?
#3690 [22:49] <Meyobrin> Xales: Mine? Upgraded from an old HP. But, as I say again; It was working perfectly before my reformat. The case has not even been opened since the last time I played minecraft.
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#3692 [22:50] <Iocamus> I've never had this problem with minecraft before...the hell is this..
#3693 [22:50] <Meyobrin> Xales: It cannot be a hardware issue that isn't somehow breaking any of my other games.
#3694 [22:50] <xales> Meyobrin: download the chipset drivers and NIC (network) drivers from HP
#3695 [22:50] <navysealltblue> xales:currently 58% of memory used, on a 2GB system
#3696 [22:50] <sinedeviance> Meyobrin: sure it can
#3697 [22:50] <xales> make sure they are all correct and up to date
#3698 [22:50] <sinedeviance> Meyobrin: you'd be surprised how often a GPU cooks itself and it's only problematic in one game
#3699 [22:51] <xales> navysealltblue: that sounds like a plausable reason for it to do that
#3700 [22:51] <navysealltblue> xales: Let me try nuking some apps and see what happens
#3701 [22:51] <xales> Minecraft allocated 1GB at startup, and if you only have 58% of 2GiB free, then that's a bit...barely enough
#3702 [22:51] <sinedeviance> Meyobrin: but in your case, i am betting you dont have the proper drivers
#3703 [22:51] <Meyobrin> Xales: Don't remember doing such in my last 'format, but I'll see about it. -- sinedeviance: So it'd mess up on Minecraft, and not a buttload of Steam games, or League of Legends? T:
#3704 [22:52] <xales> Minecraft uses OpenGL; those use directx
#3705 [22:52] <Meyobrin> Mm, true..
#3706 [22:52] <xales> that's plenty of reason for it to break Minecraft and not those :)
#3707 [22:52] <sinedeviance> Meyobrin: possibly, yes. minecraft is actually probably MORE intensive than most of those games
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#3709 [22:52] <xales> sinedeviance: I run TF2 at more FPS than minecraft, and I have the console HD model hack cvar set
#3710 [22:52] <Meyobrin> Well, sindeviance; As stated before, my singleplayer runs completely fine.
#3711 [22:52] <Meyobrin> The issue is only multiplayers. T:
#3712 [22:52] <Meyobrin> And even then its -running- fine
#3713 [22:53] <Meyobrin> Its just not updating
#3714 [22:53] <Imortalrouge> both of them glitch for me, minecraft black screens or glitches back to a previous save so i have to do the job again -.-
#3715 [22:53] <Imortalrouge> i dont get it
#3716 [22:53] <xales> Iocamus: still having the issue?
#3717 [22:53] <navysealltblue> xales: That did it... Is it possible to reduce how much minecraft initially sets aside for itself?
#3718 [22:53] <xales> Imortalrouge: both of what?
#3719 [22:53] <sinedeviance> Meyobrin: well, for shits and giggles, consider this -- i get better framerates in Just Cause 2 on max settings than i do in minecraft. and by JC2 is nearly as resource intensive as Crysis is by comparison.
#3720 [22:53] <Imortalrouge> multi and single xales
#3721 [22:53] <xales> navysealltblue: it's possibly, but not ideal; it can make the game run slower
#3722 [22:54] <xales> Imortalrouge: what's the original problem?
#3723 [22:54] <Iocamus> Mhm.
#3724 [22:55] <Imortalrouge> ill be working something on the outside of my house
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#3726 [22:57] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead helb
#3727 [22:57] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead helb me
#3728 [22:57] <Iocamus> It said, pinging mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com [myipithink] with 21 bytes of data:
#3729 [22:57] <navysealltblue> Thanks xales.
#3730 [22:57] <Iocamus> Then its aid request timed out.
#3731 [22:57] <xales> Iocamus: what were the numbers, though? (it would not have been your IP)
#3732 [22:57] <xales> navysealltblue: no problem
#3733 [22:57] <xales> ??> Imortalrouge win/reinst
#3734 [22:57] <Iocamus> I do believe it was my IP.
#3735 [22:57] <VoxelHead> Imortalrouge: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3736 [22:57] <VoxelHead> Imortalrouge: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3737 [22:58] <xales> Iocamus: was it 98.209.97.237?
#3738 [22:58] <Imortalrouge> alright ty, ill try that out
#3739 [22:58] <Iocamus> Nope.
#3740 [22:58] <xales> Iocamus: then it wasn't your IP :)
#3741 [22:58] <xales> your IP is 98.209.97.237
#3742 [22:58] <xales> can you paste the numbers here? >_>
#3743 [22:59] <xales> it wasn't 127.0.0.1 was it?
#3744 [22:59] <Iocamus> 184.72.219.240
#3745 [22:59] <Iocamus> No.
#3746 [23:00] <xales> has it successfully downloaded before?
#3747 [23:00] <Iocamus> Mhm.
#3748 [23:00] <|System|1> 98.209.97.237
#3749 [23:00] <|System|1> is your ip
#3750 [23:00] <Iocamus> Yes, thats been established.
#3751 [23:01] <|System|1> ok cool
#3752 [23:01] <xales> Iocamus: you tried deleting the bin folder?
#3753 [23:01] <Meyobrin> Xales: HP does not have any relevant driver/software/firmware updates for this issue.
#3754 [23:01] <xales> Meyobrin: any updates at all?
#3755 [23:02] <Meyobrin> Xales: The only thing relevant to the internet itself is modems not working when it comes back from sleep mode.
#3756 [23:02] <Imortalrouge> xales and voxelhead, ty very much for your support
#3757 [23:02] <Imortalrouge> going to see if it works
#3758 [23:02] <Meyobrin> Xales: Yes, theres updates, but most are like that or AOL promotion code updates and whatnot.
#3759 [23:03] <xales> Meyobrin: if there are chipset or networking (driver) updates, you should install them regardless of what they say they fix
#3760 [23:03] <Iocamus> Yes I have.
#3761 [23:03] <Iocamus> And i've tried force update.
#3762 [23:03] <Iocamus> Nothing wants to work /sigh
#3763 [23:03] <xales> ??> Iocamus win/profile
#3764 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Iocamus: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3765 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Iocamus: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3766 [23:04] <Iocamus> Huh?
#3767 [23:04] <xales> create a new user account on your computer
#3768 [23:04] <xales> and see if it works with that account
#3769 [23:04] <xales> anyway, I gotta go for a few minutes. DopeGhoti, Kealper, GreyVulpine, if you are around, feel free to appear now :P
#3770 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Bwah, huh?
#3771 [23:05] <Imortalrouge> nope that didnt work, says Java(TM) platform SE binary is not responding, this is the only game that gives me that error
#3772 [23:05] <Imortalrouge> it says that every time the game black screens
#3773 [23:06] <Meyobrin> Xales: It looks like the drivers that are on here are dated before I even got this computer. As it says "Fall 2004 Original Network Adapter Driver Collection", and "Fall 2004 Original Chipset Driver Collection" - I get the feeling they're whats in my compy.
#3774 [23:06] <nevercast> Hey xales, Can you help me out please?
#3775 [23:06] <Meyobrin> Xales: Otherwise thats all thats available.
#3776 [23:06] <nevercast> Does anyone here run Miencraft in Linux?
#3777 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Heh.. miencraft.
#3778 [23:07] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Sounds the same, even if in german :P
#3779 [23:07] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Do you play in Linux?
#3780 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#3781 [23:08] <Meyobrin> ... Does Microsoft service pack 3 fuck up Minecraft in XP?
#3782 [23:09] <AG_Scott> I do nevercast
#3783 [23:09] <Meyobrin> I just realized thats in my computer, as opposed to 2.6 or whatever it was my last format.
#3784 [23:09] <nevercast> Meyobrin, No
#3785 [23:09] <nevercast> AG_Scott, What distro?
#3786 [23:09] <AG_Scott> Ubuntu
#3787 [23:09] <AG_Scott> Should work fine on anything with drivers that support OpenGL and Sun Java installed.
#3788 [23:09] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Do you have troubles with click sometimes not working? Or your cursor shows up every time you click? or even the black screen window when you close Minecraft?
#3789 [23:09] <AG_Scott> Not really
#3790 [23:09] <nevercast> AG_Scott, The game runs, just with a bunch of annoying things
#3791 [23:09] <AG_Scott> I haven't played much since 1.3 though
#3792 [23:10] <nevercast> AG_Scott, When ever I click, the cursor shows up. and sometimes the game loses focus and I have to restart it
#3793 [23:10] <AG_Scott> never had that issue
#3794 [23:10] <nevercast> Hmm okay.
#3795 [23:10] <nevercast> AG_Scott, What version of Ubuntu?
#3796 [23:10] <AG_Scott> I only have issues with it making my dock lag insanely.
#3797 [23:10] <AG_Scott> 10.10 64 bit
#3798 [23:10] <Iocamus> Tried it.
#3799 [23:10] <Iocamus> Didnt work.
#3800 [23:10] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I haven't tried my dock during Minecraft, Talking about Docky right?
#3801 [23:11] <AG_Scott> yeah
#3802 [23:11] <AG_Scott> its probably my crappy computer
#3803 [23:11] <AG_Scott> i think it worked fine on my laptop lol
#3804 [23:11] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'm running 10.04, and yeah I also have Docky
#3805 [23:11] <nevercast> I'll look into updates..
#3806 [23:11] <nevercast> I've not done any updates on Ubuntu for ages
#3807 [23:11] <AG_Scott> you'd be better off waiting and doing a fresh install next month
#3808 [23:11] <AG_Scott> (not doing the dist-upgrade that is imo)
#3809 [23:11] <nevercast> AG_Scott, For 11.04?
#3810 [23:11] <sinedeviance> ^this
#3811 [23:11] <AG_Scott> yeah
#3812 [23:12] <sinedeviance> dist-upgrade tends to break things
#3813 [23:12] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I heard that ubuntu is either going to Gnome 3 or KDE
#3814 [23:12] <nevercast> and users hate both
#3815 [23:12] <AG_Scott> No
#3816 [23:12] <AG_Scott> They're going to use Unity.
#3817 [23:12] <AG_Scott> You can still use gnome2.
#3818 [23:12] <AG_Scott> Kubuntu = KDE
#3819 [23:12] <nevercast> I'll try Unity but might stick with Gnome2
#3820 [23:12] <AG_Scott> Unity can kiss my arse.
#3821 [23:13] <nevercast> haha ;)
#3822 [23:13] <Coll> is there a way to increase big tree growth
#3823 [23:13] <nevercast> AG_Scott, 142 updates lawl
#3824 [23:13] <nevercast> Coll, Spawn leaves, drop leaves, craft tree :D
#3825 [23:14] <AG_Scott> nevercast, i just update when it pops up
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#3827 [23:14] <AG_Scott> you should too ;p
#3828 [23:14] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I've not updated for awhile because of Un verified updates
#3829 [23:14] <Coll> I dont have the ability to spawn leaves
#3830 [23:14] <Coll> so withing the games normal limits
#3831 [23:14] <Coll> how do you increase big tree growth
#3832 [23:15] <nevercast> Coll, I've no idea :D
#3833 [23:15] <Coll> >.>;
#3834 [23:15] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I normally keep on top of all updates.. but I was a little worried when Ubuntu said, I can't verify these.. they could be malicious
#3835 [23:15] <AG_Scott> weird
#3836 [23:17] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Does Sun Java and OpenJDK auto Update?
#3837 [23:17] <AG_Scott> sun java was removed from the universe repo
#3838 [23:17] <AG_Scott> you'll want to enable partners and install it if you haven't already
#3839 [23:17] <nevercast> I've got it
#3840 [23:17] <AG_Scott> and make sure it's using sun java and not openjdk
#3841 [23:17] <nevercast> Just wondering if it updates
#3842 [23:17] <AG_Scott> but yes, it is updated via apt
#3843 [23:17] <nevercast> okay
#3844 [23:18] <nevercast> Also, minecraft.jar -> Right click -> Open With -> Sun Java
#3845 [23:18] <AG_Scott> ah right
#3846 [23:18] <AG_Scott> i launch via cli
#3847 [23:18] <nevercast> Ahh right
#3848 [23:19] <nevercast> AG_Scott, The computer with the graphics card doesn't have the CPU to play MC, the Laptop with the CPU doesn't have the graphics..
#3849 [23:19] <nevercast> So I can either have 3FPS and In-Sync, Or I can be 2 minutes behind the server, but with 100FPS
#3850 [23:19] <nevercast> I chose the 3FPS :D
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#3852 [23:21] <waxboy> yo
#3853 [23:22] <nevercast> waxboy, Hey
#3854 [23:22] <waxboy> i wanted to start a server but dont know were to start can anyone point me inthe right direction
#3855 [23:22] <nevercast> waxboy, Sure
#3856 [23:23] <nevercast> http://minecraft.net/downloads.jsp
#3857 [23:23] <nevercast> waxboy, err http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3858 [23:23] <waxboy> 404'd
#3859 [23:23] <nevercast> waxboy, http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1299039791909
#3860 [23:23] <nevercast> waxboy, Download that
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#3862 [23:24] <waxboy> k thanks
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#3864 [23:28] <xales> Voxel, courtmartial aetherian
#3865 [23:28] <xales> :>
#3866 [23:28] <aetherian> xales: it's away.
#3867 [23:28] <aetherian> .-.
#3868 [23:28] <xales> Voxel, make me a drink
#3869 [23:29] <xales> Voxel, make aetherian some booze
#3870 [23:29] <xales> aetherian: so? :P
#3871 [23:29] <aetherian> xales: it's away. it won't respond.
#3872 [23:29] <xales> orly
#3873 [23:29] <aetherian> yarly.
#3874 [23:29] <aetherian> until it's set to being back
#3875 [23:29] <aetherian> as best as I can tell
#3876 [23:29] <puzzled> Hi, i tired download the "Xray" mod.. it says i need Modloader, and needed to install that first, so i did. I extracted the files, placed them in minecraft.jar, and deleted meta.inf. When i started up MC, modloader posted a file in .minecraft -- so that works, but X-ray is not working, what is the problem?
#3877 [23:29] <aetherian> ??> puzzled modd
#3878 [23:29] <aetherian> dammit
#3879 [23:29] <aetherian> ??> puzzled mods
#3880 [23:30] <VoxelHead> puzzled: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3881 [23:30] <VoxelHead> puzzled: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3882 [23:30] <Imortalrouge> VoxelHead yeah im still having issues although i deleted the bin directory and the game reinstalled. Keeps saying SE Binary for Java is not respawning
#3883 [23:30] <aetherian> VoxelHead is a bot...
#3884 [23:30] <Imortalrouge> its never done that with any other game
#3885 [23:31] <puzzled> aetherian, risucraft does not let me chat
#3886 [23:31] <aetherian> puzzled: then too bad.
#3887 [23:31] <xales> puzzled: you aren't in #risucraft
#3888 [23:31] <xales> you should try "/join #risucraft" first ._.
#3889 [23:31] <puzzled> yes i am..
#3890 [23:31] <aetherian> xales: he probably left? or are you there too?
#3891 [23:31] <xales> no, you aren't
#3892 [23:31] <aetherian> ah.
#3893 [23:31] <puzzled> yes i am
#3894 [23:31] <xales> you are in #minecraft and #minecrafthelp
#3895 [23:31] <xales> you are not in #risucraft
#3896 [23:32] <xales> now you are
#3897 [23:32] <puzzled> i am in risucraft..
#3898 [23:32] <xales> :P
#3899 [23:32] <aetherian> he is there...
#3900 [23:32] <puzzled> i have been
#3901 [23:32] <xales> you just joined
#3902 [23:32] <puzzled> :P
#3903 [23:32] <xales> nope
#3904 [23:32] <xales> :P
#3905 [23:32] <aetherian> xales: details. subtle details.
#3906 [23:32] <puzzled> oh, its letting me chat now
#3907 [23:32] <puzzled> before it wasnt
#3908 [23:32] <aetherian> oh, really?
#3909 [23:32] <puzzled> thanks :)
#3910 [23:32] <xales> because you weren't in it :)
#3911 [23:32] <xales> Imortalrouge: by the way
#3912 [23:32] <xales> ??> Imortalrouge irc/vh
#3913 [23:32] <VoxelHead> Imortalrouge: (irc/vh) I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
#3914 [23:32] <puzzled> ill just copy and paste my old message :P
#3915 [23:33] * puzzled [puzzled@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3916 [23:33] <xales> Imortalrouge: however, try this
#3917 [23:34] <xales> ??> Imortalrouge win/profile
#3918 [23:34] <VoxelHead> Imortalrouge: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3919 [23:34] <VoxelHead> Imortalrouge: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3920 [23:34] <Imortalrouge> ah ok
#3921 [23:34] <Imortalrouge> ill try that
#3922 [23:34] <nevercast> VoxelHead is Bot, Abuse him for all your answers!
#3923 [23:35] <aetherian> :D
#3924 [23:35] <aetherian> okay.
#3925 [23:35] * nevercast grabs chair and bright desk lamp
#3925 [23:35] * nevercast tying Voxelhead to the chair
#3925 [23:35] <nevercast> TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW!
#3926 [23:35] <xales> VoxelHead: derp
#3927 [23:35] <aetherian> not that kind of abuse, you sick man
#3928 [23:35] <xales> :<
#3929 [23:35] <M> :< !
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#3931 [23:35] <aetherian> :<
#3932 [23:35] <nevercast> aetherian, Oh...
#3933 [23:36] <aetherian> it's a bloody robot
#3934 [23:36] * nevercast goes searching for fluffy handcuffs and a wip
#3934 [23:36] <aetherian> at least get a human...
#3935 [23:36] <nevercast> *whip
#3936 [23:36] <aetherian> or an android, at /very/ minimum
#3937 [23:36] <nevercast> Ya know I want an Android
#3938 [23:36] <nevercast> HTC Desire HD maybe
#3939 [23:36] * aetherian facepalms
#3939 [23:37] <nevercast> Can I facepalm you too, aetherian?
#3940 [23:37] * nevercast slaps aetherian
#3940 [23:37] <nevercast> HIGH FIVE :D
#3941 [23:37] <aetherian> :D
#3942 [23:37] * aetherian shoves a wooden hand into nevercast's eye
#3942 [23:37] <aetherian> :DD
#3943 [23:37] <nevercast> Ahh wtf! I was just playing.
#3944 [23:37] <aetherian> so was I.
#3945 [23:37] <aetherian> >:D
#3946 [23:37] <nevercast> GOd damn my eye!
#3947 [23:37] <nevercast> Pull it out pull it out!
#3948 [23:37] * aetherian pulls it out
#3948 [23:37] <aetherian> oops
#3949 [23:38] <aetherian> here, have the eye back
#3950 [23:38] <nevercast> x.- Not the eye! Just the shand
#3951 [23:38] <nevercast> *hand
#3952 [23:38] <aetherian> sand? okay.
#3953 [23:38] <nevercast> NO! Keep sand away from me
#3954 [23:38] * aetherian pours sand into nevercast's eye socket
#3954 [23:38] <nevercast> God damn.
#3955 [23:38] <nevercast> ARGH!
#3956 [23:38] <nevercast> x.< what is wrong with you man!
#3957 [23:38] <aetherian> I know what will help
#3958 [23:38] <nevercast> NO you don't
#3959 [23:38] <aetherian> it makes wound heal
#3960 [23:38] <nevercast> You can't help
#3961 [23:38] <aetherian> really
#3962 [23:38] <aetherian> it does
#3963 [23:38] <nevercast> no!
#3964 [23:39] <nevercast> I don't believe you
#3965 [23:39] <xales> what are you two on about
#3966 [23:39] <xales> ._.
#3967 [23:39] <M> ._.
#3968 [23:39] * aetherian squirts hand sanitizer into nevercast's eye socket
#3968 [23:39] <nevercast> ARGH!!
#3969 [23:39] <aetherian> that stuff is the worst, I have to say.
#3970 [23:39] * nevercast goes to punch aetherian, but with no sense of depth. Completely misses
#3970 [23:39] <nevercast> Damn you aetherian!
#3971 [23:39] * aetherian parts the building
#3971 [23:39] <aetherian> have fun
#3972 [23:40] * nevercast sits in corner holding eye socket trying to stop bleeding
#3972 [23:40] * VoxelHead is back
#3972 [23:40] <nevercast> bastard.
#3973 [23:40] <aetherian> hi, vox
#3974 [23:40] <nevercast> Hey VoxelHead
#3975 [23:40] <VoxelHead> hi nevercast
#3976 [23:40] <aetherian> vox, make nevercast a healed man.
#3977 [23:40] * VoxelHead replicates a healed man. and hands it to nevercast
#3977 [23:40] <aetherian> uhh
#3978 [23:40] <nevercast> haha
#3979 [23:40] <aetherian> have a carcass :D
#3980 [23:40] <VoxelHead> Your waffle-eating days are over, braincreation!
#3981 [23:40] <nevercast> Rebooting Linux.. Updating Kernel :D
#3982 [23:41] <nevercast> .. If only you could do that while running eh
#3983 [23:41] <xales> Voxel, courtmartial aetherian
#3984 [23:41] <aetherian> KERNEL PANIC
#3985 [23:41] * VoxelHead throws aetherian in the brig to await charges
#3985 [23:41] * aetherian is in the brig
#3985 [23:41] <braincreation> :( VoxelHead, fine I switch to Creps
#3986 [23:41] <aetherian> vox, help aetherian escape
#3987 [23:41] <aetherian> *ahem*
#3988 [23:41] <VoxelHead> Aetherian, you are charged with writing a character development episode, and improper use of a class Y planet.
#3989 [23:41] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#3990 [23:41] <aetherian> okay :)
#3991 [23:42] <VoxelHead> bye sinedeviance
#3992 [23:42] <aetherian> OI
#3993 [23:42] <aetherian> it's my job to say bye to people once they can't hear me, voxel >:
#3994 [23:42] <xales> VoxelHead: say by to TheNytangel`
#3995 [23:42] * TheNytangel` [TheNytangel`@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3996 [23:42] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose head?
#3997 [23:42] <braincreation> why would VoxelHead, the bot, want to take away my waffels
#3998 [23:43] <aetherian> vox, steal braincreation's waffles and bring them to me
#3999 [23:43] * braincreation cries while switching to pancakes
#3999 [23:43] <braincreation> screw pancakes, going to french toast
#4000 [23:43] * aetherian eats french to- dammit
#4000 [23:44] <aetherian> you ninja'd me without trying...
#4001 [23:44] <braincreation> lol
#4002 [23:44] <aetherian> uhh
#4003 [23:44] * aetherian eats soem Rösti
#4003 [23:44] <aetherian> *some
#4004 [23:45] <aetherian> !joke
#4005 [23:45] <GreyBot> Q: What is the first letter in yellow? A: Y. Because I want to know.
#4006 [23:45] <VoxelHead> what do you do if a blonde throws a minging sudden at you?
#4007 [23:45] <aetherian> kill her?
#4008 [23:45] <VoxelHead> pull the info out and throw it back!
#4009 [23:45] <Imortalrouge> xales, it said that if it was doing the same thing on another profile then it might be a problem with your system as a whole
#4010 [23:45] <Imortalrouge> do u know how to fix that?
#4011 [23:45] <xales> was it doing it on another profile?
#4012 [23:46] <Imortalrouge> yeah
#4013 [23:46] <xales> and profile = user account
#4014 [23:46] <Imortalrouge> mhm
#4015 [23:46] <aetherian> "sir, the dev team says they need more money, in order to produce graphics for their game." "why the need for extra resources all of a sudden?" "they can't be bothered to write a decent plot"
#4016 [23:47] <Imortalrouge> i could try reinstalling java again
#4017 [23:47] <Imortalrouge> idk how much that would help though lol
#4018 [23:47] <xales> Imortalrouge: try turning down the view distance
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#4020 [23:48] <kaff> anyone can help with client dropping connection with server?
#4021 [23:48] <aetherian> probably client-side
#4022 [23:48] <aetherian> internet failing out or something
#4023 [23:49] <kaff> well I have linux and run a server (jar) and a friend connects but then drops
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#4025 [23:49] <xales> kaff: what error does he get?
#4026 [23:49] <nevercast> VoxelHead! WHAT Is your major malfunction?
#4027 [23:49] <VoxelHead> ;)
#4028 [23:50] <nevercast> haha
#4029 [23:50] <VoxelHead> you dare "insult" to jeans of VoxelHead!%percent£^!^%percent£%percent@^@£^£^
#4030 [23:50] <kaff> he logs in, then sees himself endless falling, and then disconnects
#4031 [23:50] <VoxelHead> and thaaan?
#4032 [23:50] <kaff> he gets disconnected with java errors
#4033 [23:50] <nevercast> kaff, Chunks aren't loading
#4034 [23:50] <kaff> yes
#4035 [23:50] <nevercast> kaff, What's the error
#4036 [23:50] <aetherian> voxel, what is 5*2
#4037 [23:50] <kaff> chunks load real slow
#4038 [23:50] <nevercast> kaff, The error is important
#4039 [23:50] <VoxelHead> aetherian: 10
#4040 [23:50] <VoxelHead> write that down in your copybooks now
#4041 [23:50] <aetherian> voxel, what is sqrt(4)
#4042 [23:51] <aetherian> voxel, what is the square root of two?
#4043 [23:51] <VoxelHead> A CD.
#4044 [23:51] <kaff> ah, oki, I just asked, he now lags very badly, and the chunks load very slow, chests don'y open
#4045 [23:51] <aetherian> o.o
#4046 [23:51] <nevercast> kaff, They will open
#4047 [23:51] <nevercast> kaff, but take ages
#4048 [23:51] <aetherian> sounds like the internet is not good enough on one side...
#4049 [23:51] <nevercast> kaff, sounds like he either has slow internet
#4050 [23:51] <kaff> 2 patches ago, he was able to log fine and had no errors
#4051 [23:52] <nevercast> kaff, or his computer is too slow to process the information
#4052 [23:52] <xales> kaff: do you have the same lag when you play on the server?
#4053 [23:52] <kaff> no I thought so too, but at one time it ran very well
#4054 [23:52] <nevercast> kaff, does he get the same lag on smp.nevercast.net >
#4055 [23:52] <nevercast> ?
#4056 [23:52] <kaff> no I have no lag at all
#4057 [23:53] <nevercast> xales, that said most the chests in the spawn area are protected to members of the township LOL
#4058 [23:53] <kaff> I run server on laptop, then use desktop to login (thru internet not locally
#4059 [23:53] <nevercast> kaff, I do suggest local in future
#4060 [23:53] <kaff> well he lives in canada, I live in ohio lol
#4061 [23:53] <nevercast> kaff, prevents eating bandwidth, also decreases modem load
#4062 [23:53] <Imortalrouge> xales, it took it a while but the game itself did glitch
#4063 [23:53] <nevercast> No I mean just for you, kaff
#4064 [23:54] <nevercast> kaff, you connect local, he connects over internet.
#4065 [23:54] <kaff> oh and that will help him?
#4066 [23:54] <nevercast> It will mean less internet traffic
#4067 [23:54] <nevercast> so yeah it'll help a bit
#4068 [23:54] <xales> kaff: have your friend try playing on 'smp.shadow-craft.net' (or any other server really) and see if he gets lag there too
#4069 [23:54] <nevercast> if internet is the problem
#4070 [23:54] * [ssen] [[ssen]@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4071 [23:54] <nevercast> xales, I was trying to advertise damn it
#4072 [23:54] <nevercast> xales, :P
#4073 [23:54] <kaff> okay I'll ask him to do that now
#4074 [23:54] <xales> :P
#4075 [23:54] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's [ssen]
#4076 [23:54] <kaff> lol oh
#4077 [23:54] <nevercast> xales, You go and blow away my subtle advert with your own :P
#4078 [23:55] <kaff> he has 100mbit hardwired connection, was okay till about 2 patches ago, but I will try local connection
#4079 [23:55] <kaff> and see what happens
#4080 [23:55] <kaff> thanks for the tips
#4081 [23:56] <nevercast> kaff, then maybe it's a CPU problem.. What's his computer specs like?
#4082 [23:56] <Kreiger> Hey all Is nether not enabled in SMP at this point? I thought they fixed that
#4083 [23:56] <nevercast> Kreiger, afaik, No nether in SMP
#4084 [23:56] <kaff> it's not completely crap, it's mediocre
#4085 [23:56] <xales> Kreiger: Nope, no nether in SMP
#4086 [23:56] <nevercast> Kreiger, Some mods and plugins allow multi-worlds with Nether
#4087 [23:56] <Kreiger> Well, bollocks
#4088 [23:56] <kaff> this isout of the box, no mods
#4089 [23:56] <nevercast> Kreiger, But it's all buggy and experimental at this point
#4090 [23:56] <nevercast> kaff, I know.
#4091 [23:56] <kaff> no mods whatsoever
#4092 [23:56] <nevercast> kaff, Didn't say there was :)
#4093 [23:57] <kaff> kk
#4094 [23:57] <kaff> lol Oh you were talking to kreiger
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#4096 [23:58] <VoxelHead> shh Guest57448, it's quiet time now
#4097 [23:59] <Guest57448> butbut, i must make noise!
#4098 [23:59] <Imortalrouge> its the same xales, it really didn't change anything =/
#4099 [23:59] <Guest57448> but first i need to re-connect since i'm too lady to id/nick manually.
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