#MinecraftHelp > 2011-03-09
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#4 [00:06] <Yojimomo> Anyone here who can aid me?
#5 [00:08] <Yojimomo> I'm having alot of trouble getting my friends skin to work. She made me a nice one but it won't seem to upload.
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#7 [00:14] <Alunaris> Can someone help me with permissions setup?
#8 [00:18] <lyude> Go to #permissions
#9 [00:18] <lyude> This is a channel for minecraft help, bukkit and other mods are not part of this channekl
#10 [00:18] <lyude> *channel
#11 [00:18] <lyude> I can't guarentee anyone's on at this time though
#12 [00:18] <Alunaris> Thanks.
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#14 [00:25] <Origami> hey guys
#15 [00:26] <Origami> its frustrating me, that i cant buy beta
#16 [00:26] <Origami> it keeps saying my card is denied... even when i used paypal
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#20 [01:05] <iamweirdie> !check element626.homeip.net
#21 [01:05] <iamweirdie> !check 99.93.196.105:25565
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#24 [01:16] <Godfiend1> My game is unplayably slow as soon as it starts up - I can't even use the menu to pick a game.
#25 [01:17] <Godfiend1> However, if I reinstall Java, it works fine once.
#26 [01:17] <Godfiend1> Any ideas?
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#30 [01:44] <Ambrotos> Has anyone tried running minecraft on a G73 from asus? (win7 64 bit)
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#32 [01:57] <Ambrotos> Has anyone tried running minecraft on a G73 from asus? (win7 64 bit)
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#34 [02:02] <TheBix> hey
#35 [02:02] <TheBix> guys
#36 [02:03] <TheBix> I need some help
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#39 [02:10] <TheBix> anyone?
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#52 [02:43] <feenyx> so, since nobody's saying anything, chew on this
#53 [02:43] <feenyx> A rope lying over the top of a fence is the same length on each side. It weighs one third of a pound per foot. On one end hangs a monkey holding a banana, and on the other end a weight equal to the weight of the monkey. The banana weighs two ounces per inch. The rope is as long (in feet) as the age of the monkey (in years), and the weight of the monkey (in ounces) is the same as the age of the monkey's mother. The combined age of the
#54 [02:45] <ConMan8> The combined age of the..?
#55 [02:47] <feenyx> oh
#56 [02:47] <feenyx> crap, it cut out =/
#57 [02:49] <feenyx> http://feenyx.net/stuff/monkeys.txt
#58 [02:49] <feenyx> or just http://feenyx.net/monkeys.txt
#59 [02:49] <feenyx> it seems I was lazy
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#71 [03:38] <KentBallz> nevercast or mash?
#72 [03:42] <KentBallz> can anyone tell me how to set time to dawn in multiplayer and singleplayer
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#77 [03:54] <Mash> KentBallz, ?
#78 [03:55] <Mash> KentBallz, Can't do it in single player- in multiplayer, if you've set yourself OP; /time set 0
#79 [03:55] <KentBallz> mash hey I was just trying to figure out how to do the time thing?
#80 [03:55] <Mash> I just said it right above you
#81 [03:56] <KentBallz> mash o shoot yea ok cool we were getting tired of waiting for the night to go away
#82 [03:57] <Mash> Yeah, that happens.
#83 [03:57] <Mash> Anyway, afk.
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#98 [05:39] <Onikage> Can some one help me? i made a minecraft server, but i cant use any of the ingame command, like / spawn /sethome ond so on. anyone know why? do i need a mod to use those command?
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#100 [05:50] <LlamaMan> Hey people
#101 [05:51] <LlamaMan> Sometimes while i play minecraft, i hear these wierd sounds as if something is happening
#102 [05:51] <LlamaMan> They sound "magical" or what to say
#103 [05:51] <LlamaMan> Why does these sounds play?
#104 [05:51] <LlamaMan> Do*
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#106 [05:53] <[z]> LlamaMan: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ambience
#107 [05:58] <LlamaMan> I see...
#108 [05:58] <LlamaMan> I thought it was an indication of a nearby monsterspawner or a dungeon
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#117 [06:36] <Hermiene> How does the auto login work? I've tried adding my login/pass in the Target field in my shortcut, but then the shortcut takes me to a folder.
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#138 [08:06] <xikau> hi
#139 [08:07] <xikau> someone help?
#140 [08:08] <xikau> A error has occured loading the applet.
#141 [08:08] <xikau> Please contact support to resolve this issue.
#142 [08:08] <xikau> Fatal error occured (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet
#143 [08:18] <Mrkrabz> !isdown
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#147 [08:32] <norwayfreak> hi!
#148 [08:32] <norwayfreak> could i ask for help here=
#149 [08:33] <norwayfreak> !isdown
#150 [08:33] <norwayfreak> heeeeloooo???<33
#151 [08:34] <norwayfreak> could someone please help me?
#152 [08:34] <norwayfreak> please!!!
#153 [08:35] <norwayfreak> ok... i have maked a minecraftserver... but.. when my friend comes in.. all the blocks just rebuild after he destroy it.. what can i do?
#154 [08:35] <fogWraith> Move away from the spawn
#155 [08:36] <norwayfreak> hey!
#156 [08:36] <norwayfreak> here is my problem!
#157 [08:36] <norwayfreak> ok... i have maked a minecraftserver... but.. when my friend comes in.. all the blocks just rebuild after he destroy it.. what can i do?
#158 [08:36] <fogWraith> Move away from the spawn
#159 [08:36] <norwayfreak> me or that guy?
#160 [08:37] <fogWraith> The guy that has the blocks respawned
#161 [08:37] <norwayfreak> the house is pretty close the spawn point...:(
#162 [08:37] <norwayfreak> do you want to look at it? lollol
#163 [08:37] <fogWraith> No thanks
#164 [08:38] <fogWraith> Move it away from the spawn area, anything destroyed inside it will respawn
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#167 [08:38] <norwayfreak> but for me everything works...
#168 [08:38] <fogWraith> You're inside ops.txt, aren't you?
#169 [08:38] <fogWraith> Well, your player name, that is
#170 [08:39] <norwayfreak> yea!
#171 [08:39] <norwayfreak> my friend is an op too
#172 [08:39] <fogWraith> Hmm
#173 [08:39] <fogWraith> Apparently not, if blocks are respawning
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#175 [08:39] <fogWraith> Check his name within the ops.txt, restart the server
#176 [08:39] <fogWraith> Try again
#177 [08:39] <norwayfreak> ok.. then i wil make him move faaaaar away for spawn.. and build a new house..
#178 [08:39] <norwayfreak> but it think it worked befor
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#182 [08:51] <norwayfreak> is it someone here that is good with the game?
#183 [08:51] <arensirb> norwegians :3
#184 [08:51] <arensirb> we suck
#185 [08:51] <arensirb> :P
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#188 [08:52] <norwayfreak> are you from norway?
#189 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> What do you need norwayfreak?
#190 [08:54] <FireArrow> Hi. I run a small minecraft server (latest version). I have a probem with one particular user who crash the server every now and then, resulting in http://pastebin.com/6HW3XTj4 Anyone know anything about that? I got help how to solve the current issue in #minecraft, but in case anyone got more insight here I ask anyway.
#191 [08:54] <norwayfreak> ok... when my friend starts to destroy stuff.. it just gets rebuilded
#192 [08:54] <FireArrow> Both server and user client is vanilla
#193 [08:54] <FireArrow> norwayfreak: move away from the spawning area
#194 [08:55] <norwayfreak> he is an op
#195 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> FireArrow - Hmm, does it immediately crash the server upon join?
#196 [08:56] <FireArrow> norwayfreak: But as far as I know you can't modify the spawning area even if you are an op. Just walk say 30 block in any direction and try there
#197 [08:56] <FireArrow> GreyVulpine: Yes
#198 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting the user's profile in /world/players/ ?
#199 [08:57] <fogWraith> !paid Razorfart
#200 [08:57] <norwayfreak> i maked the server..
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#202 [08:58] <norwayfreak> how to i move the spawning area?
#203 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> norwayfreak - Map editor.
#204 [08:58] <norwayfreak> ok.. il try
#205 [09:00] <norwayfreak> where do i find it?
#206 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#207 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> I use MCedit myself
#208 [09:00] <FireArrow> well, the server gives the output in the pastebin and doesn't respond but consumes 100% cpu. I've been told to try deleting him in ./world/players/ but he crashes the server a bit to often for that to be a long term solution. I was hoping someone would know what caused it so he could stop doing it =/
#209 [09:00] <norwayfreak> for mac?
#210 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> mcedit will work on a mac, if you have python installed
#211 [09:01] <norwayfreak> whats python?
#212 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> !wiki python
#213 [09:01] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28programming_language%29
#214 [09:01] <GreyBot> Python is an interpreted, general-purpose high-level programming language whose design philosophy emphasizes code readability. Python aims to combine "remarkable power with very clear syntax", and its standard library is large and comprehensive. Its use of indentation for block delimiters is unique among popular programming languages.
#215 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> FireArrow - Hmm. There could be any variety of tools that could cause an error like that.
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#217 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> I wouldn't know where to start.
#218 [09:02] <FireArrow> pure vanilla
#219 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> It's not just that, the client can run a mod or a tool that 'cheats' the server into thinking something's done wrongly..
#220 [09:03] <FireArrow> no, I mean his client is vanilla
#221 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that?
#222 [09:03] <FireArrow> yes, I know him
#223 [09:04] <FireArrow> in person
#224 [09:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I see..
#225 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> How about the server?
#226 [09:07] <FireArrow> also pure vanilla. normally it just runs along. So far he is the only user ever to make it go down, and normally it is fixed by a simple restart. this is most likely solved by removing him from /world/players/ so no real issue there, but what I don't get is why he and only he make it crash
#227 [09:07] <norwayfreak> how do i downlode them?
#228 [09:08] <norwayfreak> do someone want to try out my new server=
#229 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> FireArrow - What do you know about his computer?
#230 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> How he's connected, what security software he's running, what ISP he's on..
#231 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> norwayfreak - Download what?
#232 [09:09] <norwayfreak> got some map edit stuff from a guy here.. so i could make a new spawn point..
#233 [09:10] <FireArrow> norwayfreak: http://www.minecrafthacking.com/?p=21 seem to be the place to get mcedit
#234 [09:11] <norwayfreak> and.. do someone want to look at my server?
#235 [09:11] <norwayfreak> just look for problems..? or try out the best server in the world?
#236 [09:13] <FireArrow> GreyVulpine: Vaio vpcf1 running win7, not sure about AV, but I guess avast or similar. I've heard he have quite bad connection on his wlan, so corrupted upd packages could be the problem if they are not handled correctly (or ignored correctly) by the server
#237 [09:13] <norwayfreak> it is survey...
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#239 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> If you can vouch for his integrity, I have a feeling it's a network related issue on his end, whether it's a paranoid AV/security suite blocking some vital packets, or just how he's connected via his network. Minecraft right now, only uses TCP, so UDP corruption isn't an issue.
#240 [09:16] <norwayfreak> someone want to try out my server? hamachi server:P
#241 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> norwayfreak - This channel isn't really for advertising servers, #smp is for that.
#242 [09:16] <norwayfreak> ok...
#243 [09:17] <norwayfreak> then.. can someone give a answer that works for me without a survay?
#244 [09:17] <norwayfreak> survy?Æ
#245 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#246 [09:18] <norwayfreak> ok... my friend has joind my server.. but all he destroy gets rebuilded..
#247 [09:18] <FireArrow> I see. I can look into his security solution but I know he plays alot of other games online on battlenet and similar
#248 [09:18] <FireArrow> norwayfreak: give me the IP and I take a quick look for you
#249 [09:19] <norwayfreak> but i think you need hamachi...
#250 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> FireArrow - Minecraft is unique in it's own respect, you can't compare it with anything else. The requirements for hosting minecraft outshine anything else.
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#252 [09:19] <FireArrow> norwayfreak: no can do then
#253 [09:19] <norwayfreak> and on hamachi it is relayded tunnel..
#254 [09:19] <norwayfreak> idk what that means..
#255 [09:19] <FireArrow> GreyVulpine: Yeah, I know...
#256 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> I haven't seen any other server that requires at least a 100 megs of RAM a player, transfers a gig of data per player, per day.
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#258 [09:20] <FireArrow> indeed. I'm looking forward to clientside cache
#259 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> But yeah, if he's running a firewall like zonealarm, have him try uninstalling it. Have him disable whatever security software to test.
#260 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm has caused so much grief for many server operators here, even disabling it didn't unload its protection engine.
#261 [09:21] <Equipment> hi
#262 [09:21] <Equipment> people why I can not write the game in English?
#263 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#264 [09:22] <FireArrow> GreyVulpine: I'll look into it. But it's really hard to test as we can't really make it happen, it just does :/
#265 [09:22] <Minni> How much data is running a server requre for a SMP (No mods) server .. like in general? for each person :)?
#266 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> I've seen a gig of data transferred, per player, per day. An upload of about 100K/sec per player
#267 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> It can spike over 100K when a player first joins (receives all the surrounding chunk data), then go steady below 100K.
#268 [09:24] <Minni> Ah.. god.. i hate my appartment and its old wires .. i only got a 0.6 upload -.- .. so 4-5 ppl and it start laggin
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#270 [09:25] <Minni> Do you have any knowladge of the upload without monsters / animals on ? it seems to make a huge diffrence for people on my server :)
#271 [09:25] <xabo> why is the game crashing everytime i open my inventory?
#272 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> xabo - Is this on single player, or multiplayer?
#273 [09:26] <xabo> mulitplayer
#274 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Minni - I don't have numbers on that.
#275 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> xabo - Possibly a corrupted player profile.
#276 [09:26] <Equipment> I'm from Russia and going to the game can not write in English instead of letters, I have a character as a fix? please help
#277 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Have the server owner delete your /world/players/ profile.
#278 [09:26] <xabo> Happening on diffrent servers aswell
#279 [09:27] <FireArrow> xabo: any mods?
#280 [09:27] <xabo> nop
#281 [09:28] <xabo> delted the /world/players profile now on my own server seems sorted..
#282 [09:28] <Minni> Anyone know any good network monitoring software :)? to see what programs / process are takeing how many bits/s etc? :)
#283 [09:29] <FireArrow> Minni: win,linux,mac?
#284 [09:29] <Minni> win7 64 bit
#285 [09:29] <Minni> i know windows has a build in .. but im unsure if it shows ALL processes
#286 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Minni - Depends on the OS.
#287 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> For windows, there's gotta be a gazillion utilities for that
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#289 [09:30] <Minni> Yeah i bet.. but usally googleing software and just downloading kinda.. gives me allotta crap
#290 [09:30] <Minni> since i had to remove all anti vira and firewalls to even make my minecraft server joinable :P
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#292 [09:31] <FireArrow> http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/windows-7-network-activity-monitor/ seems legit, but I can't promise
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#294 [09:32] <fogWraith> Minni, NetLimiter
#295 [09:32] <fogWraith> http://www.netlimiter.com/
#296 [09:32] <Minni> Cheers fogWraith :)
#297 [09:32] <Minni> ill try it out
#298 [09:33] * fogWraith tips hat
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#299 [09:33] <marvit> can I play minecraft.jar from browser? ..and how?
#300 [09:34] <fogWraith> http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#301 [09:34] <fogWraith> That's for Beta
#302 [09:34] <fogWraith> Classic SP: http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#303 [09:34] <fogWraith> Classic MP: http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#304 [09:34] <marvit> but I wanna play my saves from my computer :/
#305 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Saves are loaded from your computer if you play on the beta in-browser client
#306 [09:36] <Minni> Does anyone here have experiance with high end Security software (Kaspersky - Nod32 - Others??) and makeing rules for minecraft servers etc? .. im feeling naked around the internet right now.
#307 [09:36] * GreyVulpine uses NOD32 himself
#307 [09:36] <marvit> I wanna play it when I am offline.. internet is expensive :/
#308 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> marvit - For beta? You can play it offline as long as you have the files downloaded
#309 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> For classic, you need internet connectivity, no way around it
#310 [09:37] <marvit> I have it downloaded, but java client I have is slow so I iwanna try to play it from browser..
#311 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> It's the same thing..
#312 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean it's slow?
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#314 [09:38] <marvit> it lags
#315 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#316 [09:38] <marvit> 1g
#317 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> That would be why.
#318 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.exe reserves 512 megs of RAM on startup, and allocates up to a gig.
#319 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Try downloading the minecraft.jar and executing it with lowered RAM arguments
#320 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#321 [09:39] <marvit> "lowered RAM arguments" how do I do that? ^^
#322 [09:39] <FireArrow> and/or try setting view distance to lowest possible. solved it for me on my old computer
#323 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#324 [09:40] <marvit> I will try..
#325 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> The -Xms argument there, reserves 512 megs of RAM on startup, the -Xmx argument is the 1 gig max
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#327 [09:41] <norwayfreak> how do you have all those comands?
#328 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Have.. what command? I look these up myself.
#329 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> It's all on the website.
#330 [09:42] <norwayfreak> ghost?
#331 [09:42] <norwayfreak> wich?
#332 [09:42] <norwayfreak> minecraft.net?
#333 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh, nick ghosting, that's not me.
#334 [09:45] <marvit> @GreyVulpine, tnx man! I think it is faster now :D
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#336 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#337 [09:46] <Minni> @GreyVulpine *poke poke PM*
#338 [09:52] <ItsCriminal> heya, i want to make that a metal door can be opend and closed from both sides
#339 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Put down a pressure plate on either side.
#340 [09:52] <ItsCriminal> yeah thats best way i think to do it
#341 [09:57] <Minni> afaik - pressure plates on iron doors do work.. but allso for monsters :)?
#342 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. it does
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#352 [10:43] <Trulsdatanerd> yo
#353 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#354 [10:45] <Trulsdatanerd> does any1 have an admin hack or some shit? wanna take down my friends server.
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#356 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> This.. isn't the channel for that.
#357 [10:46] <Trulsdatanerd> oh
#358 [10:46] <XaioN> whynot?o.o
#359 [10:46] <xolotl> (besides which, doing stuff like that is lame)
#360 [10:47] <Trulsdatanerd> XaioN is going to post a minecraft pw stealer
#361 [10:47] <Trulsdatanerd> IP BAN ASAP
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#363 [10:53] <arensirb> What does Bad login mean?
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#365 [10:54] <minecraft028> Hi
#366 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Means usually the minecraft server couldn't authenticate the username that was passed to it
#367 [10:55] <Flox2> I've got a problem with minecraft.net
#368 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> What's wrong?
#369 [10:55] <Flox2> minecraft.net is blocked by my internet connection.
#370 [10:55] <Flox2> So i can only play online
#371 [10:55] <Flox2> offline*
#372 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#373 [10:55] <Flox2> But it's not the problem x)
#374 [10:55] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> college/work connection?
#375 [10:55] <Flox2> today i've started the game
#376 [10:55] <Flox2> http://gyazo.com/d35ec1e6e8fe4776d3dad152de144a6a.png
#377 [10:56] <Flox2> boarding school connection
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#379 [10:56] <Flox2> ( vpn doesn't work )
#380 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the only solution to that is that you need to delete the .minecraft folder so the client can redownload fresh files
#381 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> (saving the saves folder inside, of course)
#382 [10:56] <Flox2> i'll lost my saves ?
#383 [10:56] <Flox2> ok x)
#384 [10:57] <Flox2> where is he located
#385 [10:57] <Flox2> ( usually on windows )
#386 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> %appdata%/.minecraft
#387 [10:57] <Flox2> it's programdata
#388 [10:57] <Flox2> oh no
#389 [10:57] <Flox2> it's note
#390 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Go to your run command in windows, and type in: %appdata%
#391 [10:58] <Flox2> not*
#392 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> It'll be in the .minecraft folder
#393 [10:58] <Flox2> oh
#394 [10:58] <Flox2> it's /users/flox2/.appdata
#395 [10:58] <Flox2> or not ..
#396 [10:58] <Flox2> lol
#397 [10:58] <Flox2> fail
#398 [10:59] <Flox2> o_O
#399 [10:59] <Flox2> wtf i dont find it.. i remember that i putted texture pack inside
#400 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you try going to %appdata% in your run command?
#401 [11:00] <Flox2> yes
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#403 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> And you don't see a ".minecraft" folder?
#404 [11:01] <Flox2> it told me something unrelated
#405 [11:01] <Flox2> it's in french so i don't think you'll understand it
#406 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Try me
#407 [11:02] <Flox2> ok
#408 [11:02] <Flox2> http://gyazo.com/2670786c1a933a0443ac623a5f42f82f.png
#409 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Ah, no, you don't use that command in the command prompt
#410 [11:03] <Flox2> it said that it's not recognized as a internal or external command, an executable program or a command file
#411 [11:03] <Flox2> lolfail
#412 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Press the windows+R key on your keyboard
#413 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> That brings up the run command, there you'll type in %appdata%
#414 [11:03] <Flox2> aaaaaah
#415 [11:03] <Flox2> thanks
#416 [11:03] <Flox2> omg i'm noobing
#417 [11:04] <Flox2> thanks, i've found it
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#419 [11:06] <Flox2> grey
#420 [11:06] <Flox2> GreyVulpine:
#421 [11:06] <Flox2> i've got this error
#422 [11:06] <Flox2> when i redownload the gae
#423 [11:06] <Flox2> game
#424 [11:06] <Flox2> http://gyazo.com/fbc442de779accefe84d32af3f9311f0.png
#425 [11:06] <lukegb> ...?
#426 [11:06] <Flox2> http://gyazo.com/fbc442de779accefe84d32af3f9311f0.png
#427 [11:06] <Flox2> ( maybe it's my shitty connection's fault x) ! )
#428 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> It might be
#429 [11:07] <Flox2> damn, I wanted to play tonight :'(
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#432 [11:07] <Flox2> i'll try to download it from college..
#433 [11:07] <Flox2> Thanks x)
#434 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> g'luck
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#437 [11:13] <w0bni> How am I able to play SMP without using minecraft.net, if possible?
#438 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Use the downloaded client?
#439 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> !client
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#441 [11:14] <w0bni> Thanks
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#443 [11:28] <Mash> Servers are down again, I'm guessing?
#444 [11:28] <w0bni> yup
#445 [11:28] * Mash sighs.
#445 [11:28] <Mash> I shouldn't have logged to clear the stupid tnt boxes lol
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#450 [11:45] <Mash> Anyone ever locate a texture pack / mod that shrinks the font? (not asking for technical support with it, just if anyone's stumbled across one)
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#452 [11:48] <mib_rcrpda> !isdown
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#454 [11:57] <Lord_Raptor> hi I got a question. I tried turning on whitelistening on my server but it doesn't do anything. Users not on the whitelist can still join. Any ideas?
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#457 [11:57] <Lord_Raptor> sry, whitelisting not whitelistening
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#459 [11:59] <iamweirdie> hey anybody in here?
#460 [12:00] * Lord_Raptor waves
#460 [12:00] <iamweirdie> oh hi
#461 [12:00] <iamweirdie> do u recognize this? [besides bukkit]
#462 [12:00] <Lord_Raptor> Anybody else here?
#463 [12:00] <iamweirdie> bentrinhaim 9:19 pm > 19:11:12 [INFO] This server is running Craftbukkit version git-Bukkit-0.0.0-493-g8b5496e-b493jnks (MC: 1.3) > 19:11:12 [INFO] Preparing level "world" > 19:11:12 [INFO] Preparing start region > 19:11:13 [INFO] §eLoaded Essent
#464 [12:01] <iamweirdie> whoops wrong
#465 [12:01] <iamweirdie> §eLoaded Essentials
#466 [12:01] <Lord_Raptor> never seen that
#467 [12:01] <Lord_Raptor> sry
#468 [12:01] <iamweirdie> EssentialsGod
#469 [12:02] <iamweirdie> EssentialsHome
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#471 [12:02] <iamweirdie> either of those?
#472 [12:02] <Lord_Raptor> I've never seen these on a standart server
#473 [12:02] <Lord_Raptor> perhaps it is a part of bukkit?
#474 [12:02] <Lord_Raptor> I dont now
#475 [12:02] <Lord_Raptor> know
#476 [12:03] <iamweirdie> ok
#477 [12:03] <arensirb> Its bukkit
#478 [12:03] <Lord_Raptor> sry that I cant help you
#479 [12:03] <arensirb> iamweirdie: #essentials
#480 [12:03] <arensirb> Lord_Raptor: Why cant I have to windows open?
#481 [12:04] <Lord_Raptor> ?
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#483 [12:04] <Lord_Raptor> windows?
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#487 [12:06] <arensirb> Linux
#488 [12:06] <arensirb> I can open two
#489 [12:06] <arensirb> but then if i disconnect on first
#490 [12:07] <arensirb> I get problems connecting
#491 [12:07] <arensirb> and have to close the window, open a new instance of mc
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#493 [12:08] <Lord_Raptor> I have not the slightest idea... I only joined here because I need some help myself... from my experience at least on windows there is no problems with having multiple instances of minecraft running
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#496 [12:20] <iamweirdie> is anybody havin problems with minecraftforum.net?
#497 [12:23] <xolotl> iamweirdie: Yes, it's been up and down today
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#499 [12:29] <DeliciousPig> Hey there, I've got an issue with Minecraft closing down abruptly on Ubuntu 10.10, it creates an error report in my Minecraft folder, it happens when I try to join a server or create a new world. Can anyone help me out with this?
#500 [12:29] <xales> Can you pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the contents of the error report
#501 [12:32] <DeliciousPig> I have done so: http://pastebin.com/tapkmetU
#502 [12:33] <xales> Can you open a Terminal window, run the command `lshw` and pastebin that as well?
#503 [12:36] <DeliciousPig> ran that: http://pastebin.com/b0CJPqCs
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#505 [12:37] <xales> DeliciousPig: It's an fglrx problem...ATI is not known to have good Linux support
#506 [12:38] <xales> Make sure you have the "proprietary driver" selected from System->Hardware Drivers or System->Additional Drivers
#507 [12:39] <DeliciousPig> i have the catalyst 11.2 driver installed already, is there a command in terminal to switch between drivers? or should I completely remove it?
#508 [12:39] <xales> If it doesn
#509 [12:40] <xales> doesn't give you an option for any other drivers in the "Additional Drivers" or "hardwar drivers" thing
#510 [12:40] <xales> then there isn't really much you can do
#511 [12:40] <xales> it's a problem with the driver
#512 [12:40] <DeliciousPig> oke doke
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#528 [13:22] <Nordic> Nabend
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#530 [13:22] <Nordic> kann mir mal jemand helfen???
#531 [13:23] <mib_vi5k0h> what i have to do to fix this?? An error occured while loading the applet Please contact support to resolve this issue Fatal error occured (1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images
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#534 [13:23] <mib_vi5k0h> please help me
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#536 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_vi5k0h - What version of java do you have?\
#537 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> freakin
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#539 [13:26] <pwnus> hi guys
#540 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#541 [13:26] <pwnus> im having trouble posting anything in the #minecraft room
#542 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Is your nickname registered on this irc network?
#543 [13:26] <pwnus> whenever i post anything i get a "cannot send error" although i can watch just fine
#544 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> If it isn't, you need to do: /msg nickserv register password email
#545 [13:27] <pwnus> oh ok. thanks
#546 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Then, follow the instructions in the email that you'll get
#547 [13:27] <pwnus> why does it work here?
#548 [13:27] <pwnus> with out being registered?
#549 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> This channel isn't +M
#550 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> +M is a channel mode that only lets people registered, talk
#551 [13:27] <pwnus> hmmm i think i need to do more reading on IRC. i feel like a fish out of water. but THANKS
#552 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#553 [13:28] <pwnus> btw while im here, i have a server/firewall question
#554 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#555 [13:29] <pwnus> i have a minecraft server running on my home iMac 27" and set up portforwarding on my router. and it works from friends houses
#556 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Beta server I take it?
#557 [13:29] <pwnus> however here at college it seems blocked because it keeps timing out the connection
#558 [13:29] <pwnus> is there a way arround the firewall here at the school so i can play during lunch break?
#559 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, your college's network might not be conducive to hosting
#560 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> It could be the college's LAN administrators don't allow that port to be used; try setting it up on a new port?
#561 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> I don't think it's #MineCraftHelp's place to guide people around or through school or workplace network policies.
#562 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Eh, definitely not workplace, school, I can be pursuaded to.
#563 [13:31] <pwnus> ok admin. what about mcchatter?
#564 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> What about mcchatter?
#565 [13:31] <pwnus> can i talk about it there?
#566 [13:32] <pwnus> i know there is a big list of rules and i dont want to get banned
#567 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> You won't be banned, it's just, we like to follow a code of ethics here.
#568 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> We frown upon people who pirate the game, and we dislike helping people work around their workplace network security to play games.
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#570 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Whether intentional or not, school networks really add a level of complexity that we can't be responsible for showing people how to circumvent.
#571 [13:34] <pwnus> ok, umm is there any tools you know of that will let me view open ports on my schools connection? ive used GRC's shields up tool and all the ports looked closed
#572 [13:35] <pwnus> even 80, wich seems odd because i can get internet
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#574 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Without knowing the school's network topology, I can't begin to tell you how many layers or levels deep your computer is on the network.
#575 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> There could be network security appliances, multiple levels of NAT, tons of ways your school could share out its public ip(s) out to the world
#576 [13:37] <pwnus> i understand. thank you however. ill do more poking around. thank you :)
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#578 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
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#580 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah, now I know there's something screwy with the mob spawn code. skellie spawned in a completely light room of my dining area
#581 [13:39] <aefailian> hello.
#582 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#583 [13:39] <aefailian> 'sup
#584 [13:40] <Shadikka> GreyVulpine: So it isn't just beds.
#585 [13:40] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> i make safehouses without doors and i dont get woken up, like 2-3 torches inside
#586 [13:40] <aefailian> watch out for creepers...
#587 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.. I keep finding spawns inside my little fortress, and I've triple checked my entire thing, I've placed torches EVERYWHERE
#588 [13:40] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> and sometimes even with doors and 10000 torches they spawn
#589 [13:41] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> GreyVulpine i heard that the orientation of doors is important
#590 [13:41] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> gotta place them from the outside
#591 [13:41] <Shadikka> won't help too much
#592 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> This is DEEP underground.
#593 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> There is no outside
#594 [13:41] <Shadikka> I did a such safehouse, just four beds, surrounded tightly by cobble walls, door from outside
#595 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> I've exhausted stacks of coal for torches
#596 [13:41] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> outside = facing the mines
#597 [13:41] <Shadikka> Yet I woke up five times in a night >:|
#598 [13:41] <Shadikka> Ah well, some excitement to it, though. :)
#599 [13:42] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> also beds against the walls might cause problems from what i can see
#600 [13:42] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> move them away from the walls
#601 [13:42] <Shadikka> tried that too :P
#602 [13:42] <Shadikka> It has at least the problems that you may wake up outside the walls
#603 [13:43] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> lol, the beds are buggy, "THIS BED IS OCCUPIED" when theres nobody else on the server
#604 [13:43] <Shadikka> Yeah, if you're situated above them, they seem to bug too. *shrug*
#605 [13:44] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> also sometimes i get in one bed, and i'll wake up in another
#606 [13:44] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> sleep walking?
#607 [13:44] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> this could be dangerous, theres a giant hole for a staircase right next to some of my beds!
#608 [13:45] <Shadikka> I wonder how that would actually work...
#609 [13:45] <Shadikka> Somebody makes a bed, dig all the blocks surrounding it away until a suitable depth
#610 [13:45] <Shadikka> when they're sleeping, I mean.
#611 [13:45] <Shadikka> Of course there's the slight problem that it's a bit implausible that somebody would keep on lying in the bed during htat.
#612 [13:46] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> you could see the guy digging around you
#613 [13:46] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> lol
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#623 [14:26] <KentBallz> would someone be able to help me with commands for admins in multiplayer servers?
#624 [14:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> what commands do you want to know?
#625 [14:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> vanilla server has /give user id quantity (for giving items, google minecraft item id for a list of them)
#626 [14:27] <KentBallz> how to make myself admin and how to do give
#627 [14:27] <KentBallz> yea that
#628 [14:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> teleport one user onto another, /tp user1 user2
#629 [14:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> to give ops /op username
#630 [14:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> from the server window
#631 [14:28] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> or add the player's name to ops.txt
#632 [14:28] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> once you have ops you can do anything from inside minecraft that you would normally have to type into the server window
#633 [14:28] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> i believe there is a /help command as well
#634 [14:28] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> that lists all the possible actions you can do
#635 [14:29] <KentBallz> yea I didn't find it very helpful
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#637 [14:29] <KentBallz> the help thing not you you were very helpful
#638 [14:30] <KentBallz> ok so make myself admin is
#639 [14:30] <KentBallz> "/op KentBallz"
#640 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#641 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> It's just "op KentBallz" in the server console
#642 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> You only prefix commands while in-game
#643 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> with /
#644 [14:32] <KentBallz> aaah and so it would be "give KentBallz 64 <insert item id>
#645 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Other way around, and only in the server's console
#646 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Say you wanted 64 torches, it'd be give kentballz 50 64
#647 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Values are here - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#648 [14:34] <KentBallz> sweet! alright I appreciate that alot guys
#649 [14:36] <KentBallz> o and to change the time?
#650 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> The "/time" command
#651 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> and a value between 0 and uh.. 2400?
#652 [14:37] <KentBallz> so like dawn is "/time 0"
#653 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> 0 is dawn, right
#654 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, wiki says 0-24000, 12000 is noon
#655 [14:50] <ItsCriminal> auth down?
#656 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Probably
#657 [14:51] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> give username 46 64
#658 [14:51] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> thats all you need
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#660 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
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#673 [15:07] <Omri100> !isdown minecraft.net
#674 [15:07] <GreyBot> Omri100: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#676 [15:15] <Andreoli3> I know this may be annoying to hear, as it probably been asked 100 times...but is there a expected time, minecraft.net will be back up so people can login to servers?
#677 [15:15] <Morrolan> No.
#678 [15:16] <Morrolan> Just check out Mollstams Twitter for updates.
#679 [15:16] <Morrolan> www.twitter.com/mollstam
#680 [15:16] <Andreoli3> K, thanks :(
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#682 [15:17] <Andreoli3> Gah, no updates today, I guess it will be down all day my time.
#683 [15:17] <Jackson413> try using new client?
#684 [15:17] <Morrolan> Give that poor man some time, they just came back from the airport I think. ;)
#685 [15:17] <Andreoli3> I am, keep getting error 503.
#686 [15:17] * Jackson413 damns notch
#686 [15:17] * Jackson413 until its fixed...
#686 [15:17] <Andreoli3> I know, he needed someone to look over the servers while he was gone :F
#687 [15:18] <Jackson413> better turn off auth
#688 [15:18] <Morrolan> Yeah. Well I hope that it'll get better with that new guy he hired.
#689 [15:18] <Morrolan> Jackson: Seriously?
#690 [15:18] <Andreoli3> Jackson: We never bought the game when it was fully made, so its in BETA sadly.
#691 [15:18] <Jackson413> no dude
#692 [15:18] <Jackson413> just a joke
#693 [15:19] <Morrolan> Haha, ok. ^^
#694 [15:19] <Andreoli3> But, minecraft.net main login servers is online, the comfirmation to login to SMP servers isn't D:
#695 [15:19] <Jackson413> i can just turn off auth
#696 [15:19] <Morrolan> I can login from the launcher fine, but verification while joining a server fails.
#697 [15:19] <Andreoli3> You mean online mode for your server ah...
#698 [15:19] <Jackson413> yeah
#699 [15:19] <Andreoli3> Its rather risky, someone can login with anyname even yours
#700 [15:20] <Andreoli3> And get your commands and everything lol
#701 [15:20] <Jackson413> well judging that i can tell who is supposed to be on there
#702 [15:20] <Jackson413> and who isnt
#703 [15:20] <Jackson413> and the fact that i log ips
#704 [15:20] <Andreoli3> I know the ip's to my members lol
#705 [15:20] <Andreoli3> Ha
#706 [15:20] <Andreoli3> We think alike good sir.:D
#707 [15:20] <Jackson413> and i skype
#708 [15:20] <Andreoli3> Teamspeak/Vent/Mumble here
#709 [15:21] <Andreoli3> Teamspeak fails though..
#710 [15:21] <Jackson413> something is fishy when they are not on skype and on the server
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#712 [15:21] <Jackson413> vent sucks ass
#713 [15:21] <Jackson413> ts isnt too bad
#714 [15:21] <Andreoli3> Vent is annoying
#715 [15:21] * GreyVulpine hates vent and mumble
#715 [15:21] <Andreoli3> Lol
#716 [15:22] <Jackson413> mumble is free, can't complain
#717 [15:22] <Andreoli3> True
#718 [15:22] <Morrolan> IMO Mumble has the best voice quality of the three.
#719 [15:22] <Jackson413> but the client takes up resources
#720 [15:22] <Andreoli3> Lol are we really getting into this in a mchelp channel? :P
#721 [15:22] <Jackson413> skype is best in voice quality
#722 [15:23] <Andreoli3> XD
#723 [15:23] <Jackson413> hell yeah we are
#724 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Meh, why not.
#725 [15:23] <Jackson413> a bit harder!
#726 [15:23] <Morrolan> Andreoli: Sure, since nobody needs any help here. ^^
#727 [15:23] <Andreoli3> I'm just playing
#728 [15:23] <Jackson413> lol
#729 [15:24] <Jackson413> my friend just sent me the best "girl is a ho" joke
#730 [15:24] <ArmEagle> !isdown
#731 [15:24] <ArmEagle> (or so) :P
#732 [15:24] <Jackson413> armeagle my good sir
#733 [15:24] <Jackson413> that is used in the bukkit channel
#734 [15:24] <ArmEagle> oh lol
#735 [15:24] <Jackson413> go there and spam their bot
#736 [15:24] <Andreoli3> L
#737 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#738 [15:24] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#739 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#740 [15:24] <Jackson413> never mind
#741 [15:25] <Andreoli3> hehe
#742 [15:25] <Jackson413> is it still down
#743 [15:25] <Jackson413> ?
#744 [15:25] <Jackson413> better check again?
#745 [15:25] <Andreoli3> Lol..
#746 [15:25] <Jackson413> I GOTTA CHECK EET!!
#747 [15:25] <ArmEagle> pff, bot should default to minecraft.net ! :)
#748 [15:25] <Jackson413> !isdown
#749 [15:25] <Jackson413> !isdown
#750 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#751 [15:25] <Morrolan> Yeah, I suggest we all check several times a second, so the server knows that we need it. :D
#752 [15:25] <Jackson413> ITS NOT WORKING
#753 [15:26] <Jackson413> GET ME MY COKE!!!
#754 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> No.
#755 [15:26] <Morrolan> !order coke
#756 [15:26] <Morrolan> Ah well, could have worked. .(
#757 [15:26] <Jackson413> THROW A BLANKET OVER ME!!!
#758 [15:27] * Jackson413 throws a blanket over himself and gives everyone else a dirty look
#758 [15:27] * Jackson413 is calmed by the womb-like combination of warm and dark
#758 [15:28] <Morrolan> And again I've learned a new word. :D
#759 [15:28] <Jackson413> what?
#760 [15:28] <Morrolan> womb
#761 [15:28] <Jackson413> where are you from?
#762 [15:28] <Morrolan> Switzerland.
#763 [15:28] <Jackson413> ahh ok
#764 [15:28] <Morrolan> So no native speaker. ;)
#765 [15:28] <Jackson413> im part swiss
#766 [15:28] <Jackson413> :D
#767 [15:28] <Jackson413> on my moms side
#768 [15:28] <Jackson413> if it makes you feel better
#769 [15:29] <Jackson413> i know it calms me down
#770 [15:29] <Jackson413> cause i know when im with another swissman, i just feel good
#771 [15:29] <Morrolan> Oh, I feel MUCH better right now. :p
#772 [15:29] <Jackson413> yesssss
#773 [15:30] <Jackson413> can i crash my server
#774 [15:30] <Jackson413> using a loic
#775 [15:31] <Morrolan> If you get enough help it should work. Alone, I doubt it.
#776 [15:31] <Jackson413> cause lag?
#777 [15:31] <KentBallz> whoa something just happened when I try logging in in gives me response code: 503 for server http yada yada yada
#778 [15:32] <Jackson413> that is just you
#779 [15:32] <Jackson413> cut your wrists now
#780 [15:32] <Morrolan> Kent: It's having issues.
#781 [15:32] <Jackson413> ignore him, its just you
#782 [15:32] <KentBallz> ooo ok so not just me
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#784 [15:32] <Jackson413> no, again just you (lol being an asshole now)
#785 [15:33] <KentBallz> lol ok
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#788 [15:34] <DarkSlayerEX> Hello
#789 [15:34] <Jackson413> b double e double r u-n beerun!
#790 [15:34] <Jackson413> b double e double r u-n beerrun!
#791 [15:34] <Morrolan> hey DarkSlayer
#792 [15:34] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm having alot of troubles with my minecraft server... I've looked up an endless amount of forum topics on how to get mine to work for other people, but none of them work for me
#793 [15:35] <Jackson413> all you need'sa 10 and uh 5, car and sum keys and a sober driverrrrr
#794 [15:35] <Jackson413> b double e double r u-n beerrun!!!
#795 [15:35] <Morrolan> Jackson!
#796 [15:35] <Jackson413> sorrry
#797 [15:35] <Jackson413> 'sa good some
#798 [15:35] <Jackson413> song
#799 [15:35] * Jackson413 shutting up
#799 [15:36] <Morrolan> Dark: Some additional information would be helpful.
#800 [15:36] <KentBallz> !isdown
#801 [15:36] <DarkSlayerEX> yes, brb though a sec
#802 [15:36] <KentBallz> o i thought that would give me some info
#803 [15:37] <Morrolan> Use !isdown domain
#804 [15:37] <Morrolan> !isdown google.com
#805 [15:37] <GreyBot> Morrolan: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#806 [15:37] <Morrolan> for example
#807 [15:37] <Morrolan> And yes, minecraft.net is having issues.
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#809 [15:39] <DarkSlayerEX> back, sorry about that
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#811 [15:39] <DarkSlayerEX> so, i have everything setup, i have no router to deal with, my firewall is down, i can connect to it fine, but everyone else gets a "logging in" message
#812 [15:40] <DarkSlayerEX> until it times out
#813 [15:40] <DarkSlayerEX> no forum topic has been able to solve my problem
#814 [15:40] <DarkSlayerEX> their character appears in the server, but the person's client just times out
#815 [15:41] <Morrolan> First: Check on www.canyouseeme.org if nothing is blocking the ports.
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#818 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> it worked
#819 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> i forgot to mention about that. my bad
#820 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> it works fine
#821 [15:41] <Morrolan> Ok. You aren't using Hamachi or similar?
#822 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> nope
#823 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> it's been like this since i bought minecraft
#824 [15:41] <icon256> !isdown
#825 [15:41] <DarkSlayerEX> which was november 20th
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#827 [15:42] <Morrolan> Hmm. That's quite strange. :/
#828 [15:42] <DarkSlayerEX> server and clients are up to date as well
#829 [15:42] <DarkSlayerEX> i have a compatible version of java (java -version)
#830 [15:42] <DarkSlayerEX> and it's starting to piss me off
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#833 [15:43] <Zuty> I'm getting NO help in the other channel, is Minecraft.net down? I get an error when i try to connect.
#834 [15:43] <Morrolan> Zuty: Yes.
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#836 [15:43] <icon256> I belive so
#837 [15:43] <Zuty> And I am freaking out becuase before I got booted I dropped all my stuff.
#838 [15:43] <Jackson413> zuty it is just you
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#840 [15:43] <Morrolan> DarkSlayerEx: I remember that some people having issues with a certain type (or was it brand?) of network cards. Which one do you have?
#841 [15:43] <Zuty> I get a 503 responce error and end of stream error.
#842 [15:43] <esper_yjujzc> hm
#843 [15:43] <DarkSlayerEX> umm
#844 [15:44] <Morrolan> Zuty: It is down.
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#846 [15:44] <Zuty> Damn ><
#847 [15:44] <Morrolan> That some people were having*
#848 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> Atheros cards i believe, Morrolan
#849 [15:44] <esper_zbwocp> hello
#850 [15:44] <KentBallz> I have an zuty someone pooped on the server
#851 [15:44] <DarkSlayerEX> if this has something to do with not updating my network card's driver, i have done that too
#852 [15:44] <DarkSlayerEX> about 3 times
#853 [15:44] <Mw20WN3D> :P
#854 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> DarkSlayerEX what card do you have?
#855 [15:44] <Morrolan> Hey esper: In case you're wondering if Minecraft.net is down: It is.
#856 [15:44] <DarkSlayerEX> Atheros
#857 [15:44] <SkiingPenguins> DarkSlayerEX: those tend to HATE minecraft.
#858 [15:44] <DarkSlayerEX> i see...
#859 [15:45] <icon256> http://isminecraftdown.net/
#860 [15:45] <DarkSlayerEX> my brother has one
#861 [15:45] <SkiingPenguins> something about them doesnt work with minecraft
#862 [15:45] <KentBallz> lol preventative measures morrolan
#863 [15:45] <DarkSlayerEX> and he can host perfectly fine
#864 [15:45] <icon256> I think they have it wrong....
#865 [15:45] <KentBallz> ?
#866 [15:45] <icon256> listening to minecraft music....
#867 [15:45] <Morrolan> Minecraft.net isn't actually down, it's the authentication service which is having issues.
#868 [15:45] <Morrolan> ??
#869 [15:46] <Morrolan> Hmm, how does that Helpbot work again?
#870 [15:46] <Morrolan> I think it might have some infos about Atheros cards. :/
#871 [15:46] <SkiingPenguins> ?> atheros
#872 [15:46] <SkiingPenguins> ?> atheros
#873 [15:46] <SkiingPenguins> wtf
#874 [15:46] <SkiingPenguins> my client not let me do ??
#875 [15:46] <DarkSlayerEX> is there even a helpbot in here?
#876 [15:46] <SkiingPenguins> ??> atheros
#877 [15:47] <DarkSlayerEX> also..
#878 [15:47] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm not sure if this is related or not
#879 [15:47] <DarkSlayerEX> but everytime i load a world, i get some sort of error log pop up
#880 [15:47] <Andreoli> If someone is using the original minecraft.server.bat from the downloads to run a SMP server, how can it be set so its on offline mode (People can login without confirming username)
#881 [15:47] <DarkSlayerEX> stuff like hs_err_pid476.log
#882 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the error?
#883 [15:48] <Andreoli> I havn't used basic server software for a while..
#884 [15:48] <DarkSlayerEX> yes
#885 [15:48] <DarkSlayerEX> the error seems to be different every time though
#886 [15:48] <Morrolan> Andreoli: Use the properties file which is being generated.
#887 [15:49] <DarkSlayerEX> http://pastebin.com/nkF2DCCS
#888 [15:49] <Morrolan> There should be an entry online-mode which you need to set to false.
#889 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> DarkSlayerEX - Is this generated only when minecraft closes?
#890 [15:49] <DarkSlayerEX> server.properties -> online-mode=false
#891 [15:49] <DarkSlayerEX> i think so, yes
#892 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> It's a benign error.
#893 [15:50] <DarkSlayerEX> so it would have nothing to do with it?
#894 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Happens because Notch included an old version of OpenAL
#895 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#896 [15:50] <DarkSlayerEX> is there also a way to fix this?
#897 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#898 [15:50] <DarkSlayerEX> because my saves folder loves getting cluttered
#899 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Google "OpenAL download", there should be an open AL installer from creative's site
#900 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on windows?
#901 [15:51] <DarkSlayerEX> yup
#902 [15:51] <SkiingPenguins> it said it was a openal dll
#903 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> When you install it, the new version of openAL will be in c:\windows\system32
#904 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> You can copy that openal32.dll file over to your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder
#905 [15:51] <DarkSlayerEX> ah i see
#906 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> it'll fix this error log from popping up
#907 [15:51] <DarkSlayerEX> er
#908 [15:52] <DarkSlayerEX> is there supposed to be openal32.dll in the bin folder right now?
#909 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#910 [15:52] <DarkSlayerEX> oh, in natives
#911 [15:52] <DarkSlayerEX> i see it now
#912 [15:53] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQyE3E54ztU
#913 [15:53] <Andreoli> Kk
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#916 [15:54] <Mw20WN3D> hi
#917 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#918 [15:54] <DERHATER> warum is minecraft net im arsch
#919 [15:54] <DERHATER> i have ein very schlechtes english
#920 [15:54] <DarkSlayerEX> no error from closing minecraft so far =D
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#922 [15:55] <DERHATER> palim palim
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#924 [15:55] <reedlepee> LoL
#925 [15:55] <reedlepee> Hurensohn
#926 [15:55] <reedlepee> xD
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#928 [15:55] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: is it a good thing that i'm like...constantly in the center of that? lol
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#930 [15:55] <Morrolan> DERHATER: Die Namensverifizierung ist zurzeit überlastet, versuchs später nochmal. ;)
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#932 [15:56] <Andreoli> Smp original server software, is it hosted elsewhere like on the miencraftforum?
#933 [15:56] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper that merely means you talk to the most people... atleast that's how i understand it :)
#934 [15:56] <Andreoli> minecraft*
#935 [15:56] <DarkSlayerEX> any ideas on this server issue though? =/
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#937 [15:56] <sockmister> Hi
#938 [15:56] <DERHATER> np mögt ihr döner
#939 [15:56] <sockmister> i can't connect to my minecraft server :(
#940 [15:56] <FPaul> ja is lecker
#941 [15:56] <ItsCriminal> lol DERHATER
#942 [15:56] <DERHATER> oder alice
#943 [15:56] <FPaul> ja die auch
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#945 [15:56] <Morrolan> DarkSlayer: I can only advise you to check www.twitter.com/mollstam for updates
#946 [15:56] <ItsCriminal> also mal en deutschen hier zu sehen is irgendwie straneg
#947 [15:57] <DarkSlayerEX> updates for what?
#948 [15:57] <sockmister> !isdown
#949 [15:57] <ItsCriminal> *strange
#950 [15:57] <DERHATER> jo digga
#951 [15:57] <Morrolan> Updates on the issue.
#952 [15:57] <Andreoli> Seeing the original server download is on minecraft.net, is there another source I can download it from thats legal and Notch approves of lol
#953 [15:57] <DarkSlayerEX> he's currently looking into it?
#954 [15:57] <Morrolan> Since he is the one who is fixing the servers most of the time.
#955 [15:57] <Morrolan> Andreoli: Nope.
#956 [15:57] <DERHATER> die DEUTSCHEN RULEN
#957 [15:57] <Morrolan> Darkslayer: I hope so.
#958 [15:57] <Andreoli> :(
#959 [15:57] <ItsCriminal> hahahah
#960 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Andreoli distribution
#961 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Andreoli: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#962 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Andreoli: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#963 [15:58] <DarkSlayerEX> well, this is quite saddening =(
#964 [15:58] <Morrolan> ??> atheros
#965 [15:58] <Andreoli> Sorry :(
#966 [15:58] <sockmister> wanna play Minecraft! NOW !
#967 [15:58] <Morrolan> Oh god, I'm really not familiar with that bot, do I need to include a nick?
#968 [15:58] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#969 [15:59] <Kealper> Morrolan: if you don't include a nick just use ??
#970 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Andreoli: No apology needed; the stern wording wasn't directed at you specifically.
#971 [15:59] <Kealper> the arrow points it at someone
#972 [15:59] <Morrolan> Kealper: Thanks, actually it makes kinda sense. :D
#973 [15:59] <Morrolan> ?? atheros
#974 [15:59] <Kealper> although i'm not sure it's called that lol
#975 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: to check for yourslef, use ??<; to check publically, use ??, to direct in public use ??>, and to direct in private, use ??>>
#976 [15:59] <Andreoli> I should have known either way :)
#977 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> see also ??< help
#978 [16:00] <ItsCriminal> ??< help
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#980 [16:00] <Morrolan> Yeah. There was a guy in here before who had issues, and I think that there is a specific brand of network cards who isn't compatible. Might not be Atheros though.
#981 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> IIRC atheros is the problem child.
#982 [16:01] <Morrolan> Anyway, thanks for the FAQ guide. :)
#983 [16:01] <Andreoli> Ah...I am not used to Mibbit.
#984 [16:01] <Morrolan> Yeah, thought so too.
#985 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> anytime
#986 [16:01] <DarkSlayerEX> would there be some other temporary workaround i could use to host then?
#987 [16:02] <DarkSlayerEX> like hamachi?
#988 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> DarkSlayerEX fubar/hamachi
#989 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi wouldn't help.
#990 [16:02] <VoxelHead> DarkSlayerEX: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#991 [16:02] <DarkSlayerEX> or would it end up being the same?
#992 [16:02] <VoxelHead> DarkSlayerEX: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#993 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> The only solution I've seen, is to dual boot into a *nix distro.
#994 [16:02] <DarkSlayerEX> okay, so that idea doesn't work
#995 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> *nix and atheros work together.
#996 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> DarkSlayerEX: if the problem is your Atheros chipset, you could look into aother OS, or running the MC server in a VM
#997 [16:02] <DarkSlayerEX> a VM?
#998 [16:02] <Morrolan> ??<;fubar/atheros
#999 [16:02] <DarkSlayerEX> virtual machine?
#1000 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Virtual machine
#1001 [16:03] <Morrolan> I really thought I've seen an article about Atheros once. /
#1002 [16:03] <DarkSlayerEX> what if it's not my card?
#1003 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> an article? Try googling atheros + minecraft
#1004 [16:03] <Morrolan> An article in the FAQ: ;)
#1005 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> I'd be surprised if you get less than a hundred
#1006 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> ??< index
#1007 [16:04] <DarkSlayerEX> all i've seen are topics where they connect, but get booted shortly afterward, or if they mine out blocks
#1008 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: I think you're looking for 'fubar/nic'
#1009 [16:04] <KentBallz> how long usually is minecraft down for in these situations?
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#1011 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> KentBallz: most often measurable in hours; worst case I've seen was a couple days.
#1012 [16:05] <Morrolan> Dope: That might have been it, yes.
#1013 [16:05] <Morrolan> ??<fubar/nic
#1014 [16:05] * DopeGhoti hands Morrolan a ' '
#1014 [16:05] <Morrolan> oh god XD
#1015 [16:05] <Morrolan> ??< fubar/nic
#1016 [16:06] <SkiingPenguins> ?> nic
#1017 [16:06] <Morrolan> Yeah, that's the article, thanks. :)
#1018 [16:06] <KentBallz> aiiiii hope not I just got it a couple days ago and am in full swing addiction
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#1020 [16:07] <KentBallz> ooo a new error on the website thats progress
#1021 [16:07] <DarkSlayerEX> site's up for me
#1022 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> KentBallz: you should still be able to play SSP offline
#1023 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> !check www.minecraft.net:80
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#1025 [16:08] <KentBallz> yea we have been working on a sweet base on a private server
#1026 [16:08] <Kealper> that tends to lie now that they have a load balencer
#1027 [16:08] <KentBallz> but I just started an singleplayer DopeGhoti :)
#1028 [16:08] <ValX1> mc.net down?
#1029 [16:08] <Kealper> since it's not made for http, it doesn't look for http headers, just that it can make a connection :/
#1030 [16:09] <Morrolan> ValX1: The authentication service is having issues.
#1031 [16:09] <DarkSlayerEX> would anyone mind trying to connect to me, to see what you guys get?
#1032 [16:09] <ValX1> ITS BACK ON
#1033 [16:09] <Morrolan> Oh, nice.
#1034 [16:09] <ValX1> MINECRAFT.NET IS ONLINE
#1035 [16:09] <Kealper> you all realize that the site never actually goes now
#1036 [16:09] <Kealper> goes down*
#1037 [16:09] <DarkSlayerEX> it was down for me earlier
#1038 [16:09] <DarkSlayerEX> i couldn't access it
#1039 [16:09] <Kealper> it just gets so many people trying to connect at once that there is no more room for connections
#1040 [16:09] <DarkSlayerEX> but i was still able to log into minecraft
#1041 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Do not try to take down the site. That is impossible. Instead, you need simply to realize the truth: There is no site.
#1042 [16:10] <KentBallz> what does the authentication service do?
#1043 [16:10] <Kealper> so it's hit or miss if you get a slot....
#1044 [16:10] <Morrolan> It verifies your name.
#1045 [16:10] <Kealper> KentBallz: ensures that x user actually paid for the game
#1046 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> KentBallz: it tells servers and clients "Yes, that username exists and is premium"
#1047 [16:10] <Kealper> answers ftw
#1048 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> (as opposed to, say, unleaded?)
#1049 [16:11] <DarkSlayerEX> could anyone try to connect to my server if possible?
#1050 [16:11] <relsqui> hehehe
#1051 [16:11] <Morrolan> Cya
#1052 [16:11] <relsqui> DarkSlayerEX: this is not a great time to test, as the auth server is down, but you can have the bot take a look
#1053 [16:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: unleaded players are always the cheapest :/
#1054 [16:11] <DarkSlayerEX> wait
#1055 [16:11] <DarkSlayerEX> the auth server is down?
#1056 [16:11] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm using offline mode ;P
#1057 [16:11] <relsqui> well, it's overloaded
#1058 [16:12] * Kealper gets on a different computer
#1058 [16:12] <DarkSlayerEX> i see
#1059 [16:12] <relsqui> DarkSlayerEX: but what's the ip?
#1060 [16:12] <DarkSlayerEX> does that matter on offline-mode servers?
#1061 [16:12] <DarkSlayerEX> 24.109.242.141
#1062 [16:12] <relsqui> !check 24.109.242.141
#1063 [16:12] <relsqui> aubot thinks you're golden.
#1064 [16:13] * Kealper is back now
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#1065 [16:15] <DarkSlayerEX> yep
#1066 [16:15] <DarkSlayerEX> problem is, no one can connect but me
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#1068 [16:17] <Kealper> i think this cookie i grabbed is old :<
#1069 [16:17] <DarkSlayerEX> lol
#1070 [16:17] * Kealper eats it anyways
#1070 [16:18] <Kealper> DarkSlayerEX: is your server set to online-mode=false?
#1071 [16:18] <DarkSlayerEX> yes
#1072 [16:18] <Kealper> and you restarted it?
#1073 [16:18] <DarkSlayerEX> yes
#1074 [16:18] <Kealper> and aubot can make a connection....hmmm
#1075 [16:19] <DarkSlayerEX> i've not once had someone successfully connect to me, and all of the signs point to everything being fine =/
#1076 [16:19] <DarkSlayerEX> maybe minecraft just doesn't like me
#1077 [16:19] <DarkSlayerEX> lol
#1078 [16:20] <Kealper> stuck at logging in.....is that a classic server? lol
#1079 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> nope
#1080 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> this is a beta server
#1081 [16:20] <Kealper> that's strange
#1082 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> i just downloaded it from the minecraft server
#1083 [16:20] <Kealper> any firewalls or other software?
#1084 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> firewall is down
#1085 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> ...err
#1086 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> it went back up
#1087 [16:20] <Kealper> and you are on it right now?
#1088 [16:20] <DarkSlayerEX> yes i am
#1089 [16:21] <Kealper> hmmmm
#1090 [16:21] <DarkSlayerEX> did you just try logging in?
#1091 [16:21] <Kealper> yeah
#1092 [16:21] <DarkSlayerEX> cause i saw a "Player"
#1093 [16:21] <DarkSlayerEX> in my world
#1094 [16:21] <Kealper> thatwould have been me
#1095 [16:21] <DarkSlayerEX> yep
#1096 [16:21] <Kealper> well, me in offline mode lol
#1097 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> so you have the same problem
#1098 [16:22] <Kealper> so it showed me at spawn?
#1099 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> i can't log in with my laptop either
#1100 [16:22] <Kealper> this is rather strange....
#1101 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> i know.. it's been like this since before notch implemented working health in to mincraft
#1102 [16:22] <SkiingPenguins> i thought you said you had an atheros card
#1103 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> i do
#1104 [16:22] <Kealper> and you have nothing running? no firewalls/antivirus/(zonealarm)?
#1105 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> but so does my brother
#1106 [16:22] <DarkSlayerEX> and he can run a server
#1107 [16:23] <Kealper> i doubt an atheros card would do this
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#1110 [16:23] <NicholAs> Is Minecraft still being weird
#1111 [16:23] <DarkSlayerEX> unless avast is causing problems? i don't know
#1112 [16:23] <Kealper> those are just notorious for having shitty buffers for their windows drivers so the crash a lot
#1113 [16:23] <DarkSlayerEX> but it was like this even when avast was off
#1114 [16:23] <Kealper> hmm....
#1115 [16:23] <NicholAs> Whenever I log in I'm getting not premium user
#1116 [16:24] <NicholAs> even though I bought the game I few days ago... >_>
#1117 [16:24] <DarkSlayerEX> o.o
#1118 [16:24] <NicholAs> a*
#1119 [16:24] <Kealper> minecraft.net is being crappy right now
#1120 [16:24] <NicholAs> ah
#1121 [16:24] <NicholAs> My friends seem to be able to log in fine :/ I'm just one of the unlucky ones
#1122 [16:24] <Kealper> it's hit or miss if you get on right now
#1123 [16:24] <Kealper> keep trying and you will eventually get on
#1124 [16:24] <SkiingPenguins> when is it not
#1125 [16:24] <NicholAs> Ah ok no problem thanks for clearing that up mate
#1126 [16:25] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: around the time when all the kiddies have gone to bed
#1127 [16:25] <SkiingPenguins> ah!
#1128 [16:25] <Kealper> (funnier if it wern't true)
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#1131 [16:25] <SkiingPenguins> funnier if the world didnt have many time zones
#1132 [16:25] <DarkSlayerEX> so my problem is really unusual then? o.o
#1133 [16:26] <Kealper> DarkSlayerEX: could be.....might be (maybe?) something with your windows profile screwing it up (possibly?)
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#1135 [16:27] <DarkSlayerEX> i dunno how it would be doing that though o.o
#1136 [16:27] <Kealper> it's a long shot but try making a new windows profile on your computer and running it on there
#1137 [16:27] <Kealper> it's solved client issues, it might solve this server issue :/
#1138 [16:27] <DarkSlayerEX> possibly
#1139 [16:27] <SkiingPenguins> wow.
#1140 [16:28] <DarkSlayerEX> ?
#1141 [16:30] <DarkSlayerEX> so if i log off
#1142 [16:31] <DarkSlayerEX> does all of my stuff stay open?
#1143 [16:31] <Kealper> no, you have to select switch user
#1144 [16:31] <Kealper> did you make the account?
#1145 [16:31] <DarkSlayerEX> yea
#1146 [16:31] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm about to switch users
#1147 [16:31] <Kealper> what OS are you on?
#1148 [16:31] <DarkSlayerEX> XP
#1149 [16:31] <Kealper> oh
#1150 [16:31] <DarkSlayerEX> why?
#1151 [16:31] <Kealper> well, you are looking for switch users or change users, not log off
#1152 [16:32] <DarkSlayerEX> "Log off DarkSlayerEX...."
#1153 [16:32] <DarkSlayerEX> is what's in my start menu
#1154 [16:32] <Kealper> that'd close out of all your current programs
#1155 [16:32] <DarkSlayerEX> there's no switch users
#1156 [16:32] * Kealper scratches his head
#1156 [16:33] <SkiingPenguins> may have to enable it
#1157 [16:33] <DarkSlayerEX> how so?
#1158 [16:33] <Kealper> might be....it's been ages since i've used xp
#1159 [16:33] <SkiingPenguins> google it i use win7
#1160 [16:33] <SkiingPenguins> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279765
#1161 [16:34] <DarkSlayerEX> it's already on
#1162 [16:35] <DarkSlayerEX> well, brb anyways
#1163 [16:35] <Kealper> wait....when you hit shutdown, doesn't it bring up a menu that has options on it? lol
#1164 [16:35] * Kealper really needs to brush up on his XP...since so many still use it ._.
#1164 [16:37] <AG_Scott> Kealper, i had a course last that used XP in all the crap.
#1165 [16:37] <AG_Scott> I had to install a VM.
#1166 [16:37] <AG_Scott> I couldn't remember where anything was...
#1167 [16:37] <DarkSlayerEX> switching users did absolutely nothing
#1168 [16:37] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper if you press log off i believe it shows log off and switch user
#1169 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I still use XP
#1170 [16:38] <DarkSlayerEX> nope, there's "Log off Username" and Shutdown..."
#1171 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched Win7, except when teamviewing other people
#1172 [16:38] <SkiingPenguins> D: XP hates me. explorer crashes too much.
#1173 [16:38] <DarkSlayerEX> so i have no idea what to do next =(
#1174 [16:40] <DarkSlayerEX> omg
#1175 [16:40] <DarkSlayerEX> it might be the map o.o
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#1177 [16:41] <DarkSlayerEX> nope
#1178 [16:41] <Taz605> hello
#1179 [16:41] <DarkSlayerEX> when you tried to connect, did you let it time out?
#1180 [16:42] <Taz605> how would i find out mt server ip?
#1181 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.org
#1182 [16:43] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm not sure if this matters
#1183 [16:43] <DarkSlayerEX> but everytime the connection times out, i get this
#1184 [16:43] <DarkSlayerEX> lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#1185 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Are you, or are you not running an atheros brand NIC?
#1186 [16:44] <DarkSlayerEX> yes, i am
#1187 [16:44] <DarkSlayerEX> but as i've already stated, my brother has the exact same card, and he can host one perfectly fine
#1188 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Then, there's really nothing you can do until you switch out for a new NIC..
#1189 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> or wait for a fix
#1190 [16:44] <DarkSlayerEX> his computer is also identical to mine
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#1192 [16:44] <DarkSlayerEX> so i don't see how the card is the problem
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#1194 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Then your brother is one out of hundreds that can
#1195 [16:45] <DarkSlayerEX> i see
#1196 [16:47] <DarkSlayerEX> i guess i might as well try updating my driver again then
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#1199 [16:47] <relucas81> Hi
#1200 [16:47] <sn0re> so dude, what server help do you need?
#1201 [16:47] <sn0re> !isdown
#1202 [16:47] <sn0re> oops my bad
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#1204 [16:47] <sn0re> what help do u need?
#1205 [16:48] <DarkSlayerEX> are you talking to me?
#1206 [16:48] <relucas81> I just got the game and want to check out the multiplayer
#1207 [16:48] <sn0re> no, relucas81
#1208 [16:48] <sn0re> and?
#1209 [16:48] <relucas81> I have the server running on my machine but I'm getting "Bad Login
#1210 [16:48] <sn0re> Oh. are you connecting with 127.0.0.1 or localhost?
#1211 [16:48] <sn0re> find your internal IP.
#1212 [16:49] <sn0re> do you have a mac or a PC?
#1213 [16:49] <mib_nvc80t> hey, wondering about one thing... when i first got the game everything ran smooth on "fancy" graphics. and now i have a new computer wich is a looot better than my old and it's lagging horribly even on all graphics low. what's up with that`? :/
#1214 [16:50] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> mib_nvc80t: all your drivers installed?
#1215 [16:50] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> how much ram, what video card, what cpu?
#1216 [16:50] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> (in the new one)
#1217 [16:50] <relucas81> PC Internal is 192.168.1.103 external is 96.41.90.248
#1218 [16:50] <sn0re> so use the 192.168.1.103 one
#1219 [16:50] <relucas81> port is forwarded correctly
#1220 [16:50] <sn0re> try that one
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#1223 [16:50] <sn0re> just try using the 192.168 one
#1224 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> !check 96.41.90.248
#1225 [16:50] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> if the ports are forwarded, localhost, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.103 and your external address should all work
#1226 [16:50] <sn0re> and use 192.168.1.103:25565
#1227 [16:50] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> port, not ports
#1228 [16:50] <dave35> how can i change my accounts email???
#1229 [16:50] <sn0re> use 25565 as the port
#1230 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> JeepersCreepersThoseThings: not all routers will forward LANside traffic like that
#1231 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> dave35 - You can't
#1232 [16:51] <relucas81> Same thing
#1233 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> dave35: you cannot right now.
#1234 [16:51] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> localhost and 127.0.0.1 shouldnt even leave the computer
#1235 [16:51] <dave35> will i be able to sometime
#1236 [16:51] <sn0re> use 192.168.1.103:25565
#1237 [16:51] <mib_nvc80t> intel pentium P6200. Nvidia GeForce GT 540M. 6GB DDR3 memory
#1238 [16:51] <sn0re> that should work
#1239 [16:51] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> mib_nvc80t: and the graphics drivers are up to date? java? windows updates?
#1240 [16:52] <mib_nvc80t> should be, yes
#1241 [16:52] <relsqui> don't assume, check :)
#1242 [16:52] <dave35> will i be able to in the future???
#1243 [16:52] <relucas81> Still getting bad login
#1244 [16:52] <mib_nvc80t> it was lagging just as much on my old computer after it went to beta
#1245 [16:52] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> some people get better performance while running minecraft from a browser
#1246 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> relucas81 - Okay.. first question, did you pay for a minecraft account?
#1247 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> relucas81: what exact error message? "You need to log in!" or "bad login"?
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#1249 [16:53] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> also, by lagging do you mean low frame rates or network latency?
#1250 [16:53] <relucas81> Yea I just did about 20 min ago
#1251 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> username?
#1252 [16:53] <mib_nvc80t> low frame rates
#1253 [16:53] <relucas81> I am getting Failed to Login: Bad Login
#1254 [16:53] <mib_nvc80t> i'm playing single player... atleast trying :P
#1255 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> relucas81 - What's your minecraft username?
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#1257 [16:54] <relucas81> relucas81
#1258 [16:55] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> have you tried running it directly from the browser window on minecraft.net or are you running minecraft.exe
#1259 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> !check relucas81
#1260 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> er
#1261 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> !paid relucas81
#1262 [16:55] <relucas81> What?
#1263 [16:55] <mib_nvc80t> i'm running the .exe
#1264 [16:55] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> try logging into the site and running it there
#1265 [16:56] <mib_nvc80t> i'l try the browser now. brb
#1266 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> relucas81: Just checking to see that your account is premiumm which it is.
#1267 [16:56] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> relucas81 what payment method did you use?
#1268 [16:56] <relucas81> Yea I have it typed in correctly
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#1270 [16:56] <relucas81> Maybe it could be my server.
#1271 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> JeepersCreepersThoseThings: his account is fine; it's flagged as paid.
#1272 [16:56] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> oic
#1273 [16:56] <relucas81> Is there a server I can connect to so I can test it?
#1274 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> relucas81 smp/servers
#1275 [16:57] <VoxelHead> relucas81: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1276 [16:57] <VoxelHead> relucas81: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#1277 [16:57] <mib_nvc80t> okayy.. it's better, but i need to use "fast" graphics and render distance to short
#1278 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> relucas81 - Are you using the client from the minecraft.net website?
#1279 [16:57] <mib_nvc80t> but it works fine
#1280 [16:57] <relucas81> No the exe
#1281 [16:58] <relucas81> Can anyone try connecting to my server?
#1282 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Okay, but the .exe is still downloaded from the minecraft.net site, right?
#1283 [16:58] <SkiingPenguins> heh GreyVulpine you just cant get your answer
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#1285 [16:59] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> hrm
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#1287 [17:00] <relucas81> yep
#1288 [17:01] <relucas81> I'm going to re-download it
#1289 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> relucas81: after you download it, and before you run it:
#1290 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> relucas81 win/reinst
#1291 [17:01] <VoxelHead> relucas81: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1292 [17:01] <VoxelHead> relucas81: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1293 [17:03] <relucas81> I'm in!
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#1295 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> relucas81: that'll be $8.
#1296 [17:04] <relucas81> Thanks guys.
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#1303 [17:07] <aPunch> my server is getting severely hacked
#1304 [17:07] <aPunch> in online mode
#1305 [17:07] <aPunch> what can i do?
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#1307 [17:08] <BarryCarlyon> enable the whitelist
#1308 [17:08] <aPunch> no you dont understand
#1309 [17:08] <BarryCarlyon> tho what is your definition of hacked?
#1310 [17:08] <aPunch> someone is hacking into whitelisted accounts
#1311 [17:08] <aPunch> and using their powers to grief the server
#1312 [17:08] <aPunch> people are logging in under my name
#1313 [17:08] <SkiingPenguins> change your password...
#1314 [17:08] <BarryCarlyon> o
#1315 [17:08] <aPunch> I Have!
#1316 [17:08] <SkiingPenguins> to everything
#1317 [17:09] <aPunch> like 3 times!
#1318 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> including email?
#1319 [17:09] <aPunch> yes
#1320 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> do it again ^.^
#1321 [17:09] <aPunch> i somehow doubt that will solve the problem lol
#1322 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> or just permaban yourself
#1323 [17:09] <aPunch> lol
#1324 [17:09] <SkiingPenguins> that'd make them go WTF!
#1325 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> aPunch: Take the server out of offline-mode
#1326 [17:10] <aPunch> its in online mode
#1327 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> ban the IP
#1328 [17:10] <aPunch> we cant find it
#1329 [17:10] <aPunch> we never are looking at the console
#1330 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> It's in the logs, where the user connects and dosconnects.
#1331 [17:10] <aPunch> when this happens
#1332 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> that's what logs are *for*
#1333 [17:10] <aPunch> the server owner says he cant find any logs
#1334 [17:11] <aPunch> though i told him there are some
#1335 [17:11] <SkiingPenguins> someone shouldnt be a server admin then
#1336 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> Fire the server owner and hire one that knows that 'server.log' is a server log
#1337 [17:11] <SkiingPenguins> PEOPLE THESE DAYS D:
#1338 [17:12] <aPunch> there is no server.log in the directory
#1339 [17:12] <aPunch> i cant find it
#1340 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> Is the server modded?
#1341 [17:12] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> windows might hide .log files?
#1342 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> JeepersCreepersThoseThings: not by default.
#1343 [17:13] <aPunch> we are running bukkit
#1344 [17:13] <BarryCarlyon> sounds like a bug in bukkit then
#1345 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> Stop running bukkit, use the built-in whitelist
#1346 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> sounds like they found an exploit.
#1347 [17:14] <BarryCarlyon> and since your server is modded we can't really advise what to do without turning bukkit off.
#1348 [17:14] <aPunch> well i cant just turn bukkit off
#1349 [17:14] <aPunch> its the backbone to our server
#1350 [17:14] <SkiingPenguins> then deal with your problems in a better way
#1351 [17:14] <aPunch> hmm
#1352 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> no, Minecraft is the backbone to your server
#1353 [17:14] <BarryCarlyon> then you need to tell #bukkit we can't help
#1354 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> Bukkit is a gaudy tattoo
#1355 [17:15] <aPunch> alright
#1356 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> which, in your case, may be infected.
#1357 [17:15] <aPunch> thanks for your help
#1358 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Good luck
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#1360 [17:15] <SkiingPenguins> someone should punch his server admin
#1361 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Someone (aPunch, perhaps) should also rethink their metaphors.
#1362 [17:16] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#1363 [17:16] <SkiingPenguins> ya
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#1365 [17:18] <DarkSlayerEX> so..
#1366 [17:18] <DarkSlayerEX> my laptop is able to host easily
#1367 [17:18] <DarkSlayerEX> odd
#1368 [17:18] <DarkSlayerEX> but problem solved i guess
#1369 [17:18] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> as long as the laptops specs are ok, theres nothing stopping you from using it as a server!
#1370 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: running a server is GPU-agnostic.
#1371 [17:21] <relsqui> hehe
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#1374 [17:24] <lastgasp> Magnetic, how do you work?
#1375 [17:25] <Magnetic> :D
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#1377 [17:25] <Magnetic> friggin Magic :D
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#1379 [17:28] <lastgasp> Heyho. I gor a problem with my minecraft client. Everytime i join a server, after a few seconds, i get a weird graphic glitch. Screen: http://tinyurl.com/yzgeert
#1380 [17:28] <lastgasp> *got
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#1382 [17:29] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: you active?
#1383 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> in some respects.
#1384 [17:29] <relsqui> oh wait, I'm in this channel, not the other one
#1385 [17:29] <relsqui> !kick lastgasp
#1386 [17:29] <relsqui> .kick lastgasp ?
#1387 [17:29] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: yeah, aubot says no. I need a real op :)
#1388 [17:29] <Zikora_Yooki> Minecraft.net is down at the moment?...
#1389 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> What are you looking for exactly?
#1390 [17:30] <relsqui> DopeGhoti: that was a spam/shock link back there
#1391 [17:30] <relsqui> not a real help request
#1392 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> ah.
#1393 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> !kb *!*@12.163.251.212.customer.cdi.no Spam/troll
#1394 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> er
#1395 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> wait..
#1396 [17:31] <Zikora_Yooki> o-o So...erm...I have a problem?
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#1398 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> Zikora_Yooki: Well, you answered your own question right there
#1399 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/athdown
#1400 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1401 [17:32] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1402 [17:32] <Zikora_Yooki> Naw. That's not what I'm getting. I'm having troubles uploading a skin on the website...is there an issue with that at the moment?
#1403 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> Well, sort of. You won't _see_ the skin on the site, but it'll work in-game
#1404 [17:33] <Zikora_Yooki> Oooh.
#1405 [17:33] <Zikora_Yooki> ^^ Mm'tay! That's all I needed to know! Thank ya.
#1406 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> cheers!
#1407 [17:33] <Zikora_Yooki> Cheerio. :D
#1408 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mc.net/skins|Skin uploading will appear not to do anything at minecraft.net. However, if you have uploaded a new skin file, it *will* work in-game. Give it a try! (:
#1409 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> Been meaning to add that FAQ for a while now.
#1410 [17:42] <relsqui> ah, yeah :)
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#1415 [17:59] <peeves> !check element626.homeip.net
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#1426 [18:56] <nevercast> xales?
#1427 [18:56] <xales> nevercast?
#1428 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Dr. Scott?
#1429 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Janet? Brad?
#1430 [18:57] <AG_Scott> wat
#1431 [18:57] <AG_Scott> I need to get a Ph.D. :/
#1432 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Ph. D. (abbrev.): Piled high and deep. Compare BS (Bullshit) and MS (More shit).
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#1434 [19:00] <LargePrime> hello
#1435 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Mornin'
#1436 [19:00] <LargePrime> I have a question about light
#1437 [19:00] <LargePrime> evening
#1438 [19:01] <LargePrime> and good day
#1439 [19:01] <LargePrime> about light
#1440 [19:01] <LargePrime> given a dark room
#1441 [19:01] <LargePrime> and a block of lava
#1442 [19:02] <LargePrime> the block above should be at what light level?
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#1444 [19:02] <LargePrime> 14?
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#1446 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> IIRC, yes.
#1447 [19:06] <LargePrime> and above each block -1, right?
#1448 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> LargePrime: Yes.
#1449 [19:07] <LargePrime> how does it do angles?
#1450 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> I believe diagonals count at one in terms of light levels
#1451 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> test: place a torch, compare diagonally adjacent blocks to ortogonally adjacent.
#1452 [19:08] <LargePrime> thanks
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#1456 [19:16] <LavaHot> Hello?
#1457 [19:17] <nevercast> Hey xales, Your bot store hostmasks?
#1458 [19:17] <LavaHot> Is there anybody here that can help me with nickserv? I just joined and I haven't gotten my auth code yet
#1459 [19:17] <xales> nevercast: of course
#1460 [19:17] <nevercast> LavaHot, join #help
#1461 [19:17] <LavaHot> TY!
#1462 [19:17] <nevercast> LavaHot: You're welcome.
#1463 [19:17] <nevercast> xales, How does it format them?
#1464 [19:17] <xales> nevercast: regex
#1465 [19:17] <nevercast> xales, Wanting to know how I should format mine.
#1466 [19:18] <nevercast> xales, what does it cut out? User? Nick?
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#1469 [19:19] <xales> it does the whole thing, custom
#1470 [19:19] <xales> I can do it as exact as I want
#1471 [19:19] <xales> or as not exact
#1472 [19:20] <nevercast> xales, Can you give me an example of my 'ident' ?
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#1474 [19:21] * GreyVulpine pokes nevercast
#1474 [19:21] <xales> nevercast: your ident is your 'username'
#1475 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy (Slizard@66-227-202-118.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) has joined
#1476 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> In terms of a hostmask (nick!ident@hostmask
#1477 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> it's LG_Legacy!Slizard@66-227-202-118.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.co
#1478 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: your hostmask is nevercast@203-173-147-198.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz, therefore your ident is !nevercast
#1479 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> In some parlances, hostmask and ident are used interchangably, but this is inaccurate.
#1480 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Huh? I've never seen ident == hostmask.
#1481 [19:23] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Okay, So if my bot wished to differenciate between users, For example. Privileges or even bans. What information should I take from a user to make an accurate record?
#1482 [19:24] <xales> DopeGhoti: What useful Eggdrop scripts are there these days?
#1483 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - Login system of your own
#1484 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Only way to be sure
#1485 [19:24] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: Okay.. Unless a user is registered and has an acceptable Nick + User ?
#1486 [19:24] <nevercast> Or just all in all, Login only?
#1487 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> What if they haven't been on in a while, and nickserv drops their reg?
#1488 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> xales: define 'useful'
#1489 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Then somebody else picks up that name
#1490 [19:25] <nevercast> Hmmm yes I see.
#1491 [19:25] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: The idea behind it was to have AOP.
#1492 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: eggdrops, for example, use the hostmask as the user identifier
#1493 [19:26] <xales> DopeGhoti: Worth using in #minecraft?
#1494 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: if my IP changes or I connect from elsewhere, I have to use another authentication factor to prove that I'm me.
#1495 [19:26] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Okay. Sounds good.
#1496 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: well, there's VoxelHead's FAQ.
#1497 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: eggy itself does some decent ban management as long as you let it bein charge.
#1498 [19:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: Will it import or leave bans alone, or will it wipe out banlist when I op it?
#1499 [19:27] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: As for bans, They are a lot easier to enforce as they can be set by a user... Is there a default 'mask' in general that something like ChanServ would use to ban someone?
#1500 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> xales: like we saw in here, I need to manually copy the banlist over
#1501 [19:27] <xales> nevercast: yes, *!*ident*@*.isp.tld
#1502 [19:27] <xales> (or something like that)
#1503 [19:27] <xales> join #insaneasylum to see how ChanServ bans people :P
#1504 [19:28] <nevercast> xales, LOL.
#1505 [19:28] <xales> it will autoban people who enter it :>
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#1507 [19:30] <xales> nevercast, example:
#1508 [19:30] <xales> 16:08:28 -!- ngc0202 [ngc0202@c-67-189-167-232.hsd1.ny.comcast.net] has joined #insaneasylum
#1509 [19:30] <xales> 16:08:28 -!- mode/#insaneasylum [+b *!ngc0202@*.hsd1.ny.comcast.net] by ChanServ
#1510 [19:30] <nevercast> xales, Hmm so the isp is considered the first non-numeric token of a period seperated list.
#1511 [19:31] <nevercast> I would have just done *.comcast.net
#1512 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2011/03/microsoft-begs-users-to-stop-using-ie6/1 heh
#1513 [19:31] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: LOL
#1514 [19:31] <nevercast> ' We fucked up!! PLEASE Stop using it, You're all going to have your computers raped by our poor coding and the immense about of exploits for the browser!! '
#1515 [19:32] <nevercast> s/about/amount/
#1516 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> More like "Pirated copies of Windows can't use later versions. Please buy Windows, 35% of Chinese users!"
#1517 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> s/Windows/& XP/
#1518 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> (for certain values of "can't")
#1519 [19:34] <nevercast> Lol!
#1520 [19:34] <nevercast> When the headlines say, 'Microsoft begs users to using Internet Explorer'
#1521 [19:34] <nevercast> It'll be a day I smile.
#1522 [19:34] <nevercast> :|
#1523 [19:34] <nevercast> *stop using
#1524 [19:34] <nevercast> GOD DAMN I'm failing this morning
#1525 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> They do.
#1526 [19:34] <Kealper> hmm..my neighbor has fucking rap playing in his house right now
#1527 [19:34] <nevercast> Kealper, I have Progressive House...
#1528 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: is that any better than other kinds of rap?
#1529 [19:34] <nevercast> Kealper: Am I still heaps cool?
#1530 [19:35] <Kealper> my speakers shall now roar to life to drown out that crap
#1531 [19:35] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: lol.
#1532 [19:35] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: there are other types of rap?
#1533 [19:35] <Kealper> i was under the impression all of it was about that ._.
#1534 [19:36] <Kealper> anywho....back to adding file transfer support to kChat
#1535 [19:36] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1535 [19:36] <Kealper> rawr
#1536 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Where's the interface to your chat thingy
#1537 [19:36] <Kealper> uhh...the what?
#1538 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> The chat bridge.. bridges to..
#1539 [19:37] <Kealper> it's....on my server? lol
#1540 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1541 [19:37] <nevercast> xales, http://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
#1542 [19:37] <nevercast> xales, Think I might store that in my bot :)
#1543 [19:37] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: sorry, not sure i understood your question lol
#1544 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Where do people go to, to access your chat client?
#1545 [19:38] <Kealper> either the web chat which i won't give out here, or the downloadable client which i won't give out here
#1546 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then
#1547 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: give it out in #[censored] then?
#1548 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1549 [19:39] * Arennsis [Arennsis@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1550 [19:39] <Arennsis> need help with connection to mcservers
#1551 [19:39] <Arennsis> anybody available?
#1552 [19:40] <Kealper> mcserver? the custom minecraft server? or did you just mean a minecraft server in general?
#1553 [19:41] <Arennsis> in general
#1554 [19:41] <Arennsis> a friend of mine bought me the gift code today
#1555 [19:41] <Arennsis> i'm able to login, but i'm not able to join any server
#1556 [19:41] <nevercast> Arennsis: Do you get an error?
#1557 [19:42] <nevercast> !check nevercast.net
#1558 [19:42] <nevercast> Course it does <3
#1559 [19:42] <nevercast> Arennsis: Try connecting to nevercast.net
#1560 [19:43] <nevercast> Arennsis: Let me know if you have trouble with that.
#1561 [19:43] <Arennsis> most of the tine it just says: connection timed out: connection
#1562 [19:43] <Arennsis> sry ":connect"
#1563 [19:43] <xales> That means the server you are connecting to is down or you entered the IP wrong
#1564 [19:44] <nevercast> ^ Pretty much.
#1565 [19:44] <nevercast> But I wanted to check there weren't firewall issues by getting Arennsis to attempt to connect to my server, Which I know for fact is working
#1566 [19:44] <Arennsis> that would be a great idea
#1567 [19:45] <nevercast> Arennsis: Put nevercast.net in the Multiplayer Address, and let me know if it connects fine.
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#1569 [19:45] <LG_Legacy> ADVERTISING
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#1571 [19:45] <Hatter> Like a bossss
#1572 [19:45] <Hatter> So, I need help with my account
#1573 [19:45] <Arennsis> no it isn't - when i try nevercast.net i just get "bad login"
#1574 [19:45] <nevercast> Hatter: What of it? :)
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#1576 [19:46] <Hatter> Paid for account in december, didn't get time to play until recently, tried to, no account found
#1577 [19:46] <Hatter> ect
#1578 [19:46] <nevercast> xales, Bad Login.. What does that one mean.
#1579 [19:46] <Hatter> sent various emails, no response
#1580 [19:46] <xales> nevercast: means, check their username
#1581 [19:46] <Hatter> trying to hold back waves of rage currently
#1582 [19:46] <xales> Hatter: send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1583 [19:46] <nevercast> xales, I thought he could login.
#1584 [19:46] <Hatter> already did
#1585 [19:46] <Hatter> no response
#1586 [19:46] <nevercast> Arennsis: What is your minecraft user?
#1587 [19:46] <Hatter> sent several for the past few months
#1588 [19:47] <Arennsis> Argyll_Finnegan
#1589 [19:47] <xales> Hatter: send one again
#1590 [19:47] <nevercast> !ispaid Argyll_Finnegan
#1591 [19:47] <xales> nevercast: it's fine
#1592 [19:47] <nevercast> !paid Argyll_Finnegan
#1593 [19:47] <xales> Arennsis: did you, at any point ever, use a pirated version of Minecraft?
#1594 [19:47] <Hatter> You sent a payment of 9.95 EUR to Mojang Specifications (support@mojang.com)
#1595 [19:47] <Hatter> Dec 12, 2010 18:36:25 PST
#1596 [19:47] <xales> (note: if you say no and we found out that you did, we don't help you undo it)
#1597 [19:48] <LG_Legacy> Hm..
#1598 [19:48] <Arennsis> not that i know - i played minecraft before, but just on singleplayer mode
#1599 [19:48] <LG_Legacy> It's probably just a mistyped password
#1600 [19:48] <Hatter> i've tried to access my account, unable to do so either
#1601 [19:48] <Hatter> tried getting my stuff reset, no response
#1602 [19:49] <nevercast> If you log out while sleeping in a bed.. You wake up standing up.. and in my case.. STUCK!!
#1603 [19:49] <Arennsis> and a friend of mine payed 14,95€ today^^
#1604 [19:49] <Arennsis> for me
#1605 [19:49] <LG_Legacy> Hatter:
#1606 [19:49] <LG_Legacy> Stick around
#1607 [19:49] <xales> ??> Arennsis win/reinst
#1608 [19:49] <VoxelHead> Arennsis: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1609 [19:49] <VoxelHead> Arennsis: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1610 [19:49] <LG_Legacy> Sometimes jeb or mollstamm pops around #minecraft or here
#1611 [19:49] <Hatter> fffffff
#1612 [19:49] <Hatter> fine
#1613 [19:49] <xales> LG_Legacy: They don't do that stuff any more
#1614 [19:50] <xales> now that there is real support people
#1615 [19:50] <LG_Legacy> No?
#1616 [19:50] <xales> http://mojang.com/ :)
#1617 [19:50] <Arennsis> i'll try voxelhead
#1618 [19:50] <Hatter> >real support people
#1619 [19:50] <xales> read the blog posts, one of the old ones
#1620 [19:50] <xales> Arennsis: VoxelHead is a bot ._.
#1621 [19:50] <Hatter> >emails have gone unreplied for months
#1622 [19:50] <Hatter> >my face
#1623 [19:50] <Hatter> ಠ_ಠ
#1624 [19:50] <xales> Hatter: they haven't been around that long. send another email, like I said
#1625 [19:50] <Arennsis> didn't know that^^
#1626 [19:50] <LG_Legacy> Hatter: did you try twitter?
#1627 [19:50] <Hatter> I sen't one last week
#1628 [19:50] <Arennsis> my first time in irc since ~7 years^^
#1629 [19:50] <xales> Hatter: send another one.
#1630 [19:50] <Hatter> in fact, I sent two last week
#1631 [19:51] <Hatter> One to support, one to payment
#1632 [19:51] <LG_Legacy> Hatter: again, did you try their twitter?
#1633 [19:51] <Hatter> If I have to type up another email, it will be far from polite
#1634 [19:52] <Hatter> I don't use twitter, and I fail to see the point of having a support and a payment email
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#1636 [19:52] <Hatter> if no one is going to bother to repond to them
#1637 [19:52] <xales> Hatter: Well, what would you like us to do?
#1638 [19:52] <xales> Don't come here just to complain
#1639 [19:52] <Hatter> Helping would be a good start
#1640 [19:52] <xales> that is beyond rude, considering that we are community volunteers who help people by our choice
#1641 [19:52] <xales> we don't have to offer you help
#1642 [19:53] <LG_Legacy> Hatter: So you're going to do nothing because one source failed and the other isn't even tried yet?
#1643 [19:53] <SkiingPenguins> you want me to bitch at you?
#1644 [19:54] <LG_Legacy> Back to idling.
#1645 [19:54] <Kealper> lol
#1646 [19:54] <xales> LG_Legacy: Have fun!
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#1649 [19:56] <Hatter> a) don't have a twitter account, nor see the point of creating one after sending emails
#1650 [19:56] <Arennsis> is there any server i could try to see if minecraft-multiplayer is working? - just reinstalled it
#1651 [19:56] <Hatter> b) yes I'm rude. I'm pissed. welcome to the world of commerce
#1652 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> you sound like a stuck up little prick who doesnt seem to have any idea of what's going on
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#1654 [19:56] <Hatter> I've been trying to get on minecraft for a few months now
#1655 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> Hatter attitude
#1656 [19:56] <VoxelHead> Hatter: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistances have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1657 [19:56] <VoxelHead> Hatter: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#1659 [19:56] <BoosterEngineer> Dude, they didn't answer those emails, and they are probably bellow over 9000 other messages by now. send NEW ONES.
#1660 [19:56] <Arennsis> ok, nevercast.net just worked - thx for helping me - have a good night ;)
#1661 [19:56] <Hatter> Fine
#1662 [19:56] <Hatter> Sending more emails
#1663 [19:56] <Hatter> But if I have to send another round of emails, they're going to be full of pictures of dead puppies
#1664 [19:57] <SkiingPenguins> you have issues
#1665 [19:57] <BoosterEngineer> ;(
#1666 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> you might want to consider an anger management course or seven.
#1667 [19:57] <SkiingPenguins> or maybe get laid
#1668 [19:57] <Hatter> How clever
#1669 [19:57] <Kealper> what problem is Hatter having anyways?
#1670 [19:57] <Hatter> How very witty of you
#1671 [19:58] <Kealper> Hatter: stop being a smartass or i'll ban you from here in a heartbeat
#1672 [19:58] <Hatter> Failure to get a response after about 10 emails
#1673 [19:58] <Hatter> over the course of a few months
#1674 [19:58] <nevercast> xales, I'm currently hosting on a Dual Core Semi-Dedicated server with 6Gigs of Ram, it can hold users... How can I get users? :D
#1675 [19:58] <LG_Legacy> Hatter: You understand that it's.. only like what? 8 people? They can't always have time to check the emails... however they get thousands of email per day i'm sure.
#1676 [19:58] <BoosterEngineer> DopeGhoti: Did you know that 12 step programs can be addictive? And did you know that there's a 12 step for that?
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#1678 [19:58] <Kealper> Hatter: that didn't answer my question, what problem is it that you needed to contact them about?
#1679 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> A response to what inquiry? If it's a technical issue, maybe we can help, if you'll stop gnashing your teeth and rending your garments for five minutes
#1680 [19:59] <Hatter> Problems with my account
#1681 [19:59] <SkiingPenguins> be exact and specific
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#1683 [20:00] <Hatter> Won't let me access it, Tried to login using the username and pass, didn't work
#1684 [20:00] <Hatter> Tried recovering username and pass, never got the reply email
#1685 [20:00] <SkiingPenguins> are you sure you got the right username?
#1686 [20:00] <Kealper> what error was it giving you?
#1687 [20:00] <Kealper> and what SkiingPenguins said
#1688 [20:00] <Hatter> tried getting contact
#1689 [20:00] <Hatter> Yes
#1690 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Was your password "12345" or "password"? :p
#1691 [20:00] <Hatter> It was just saying "wrong username / pass"
#1692 [20:01] <BoosterEngineer> x.x
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#1694 [20:01] <Hatter> So I tried recovering using my email, never got an email back
#1695 [20:01] <SkiingPenguins> ooohhhh what's X.x mean, BoosterEngineer?
#1696 [20:01] <Hatter> sent various emails to Support and Payment, no response
#1697 [20:02] <Hatter> DopeGhoti I'm having a hard time being nice as it is
#1698 [20:02] <Hatter> Being condecending isn't helping the cause any further
#1699 [20:03] <SkiingPenguins> pwease dont hurt me
#1700 [20:04] <BoosterEngineer> SkiingPengu. its a poorman's emoticon of a dead smiley face :P
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#1702 [20:04] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay
#1703 [20:05] <LargePrime> is there a way in game to increase gama?
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#1705 [20:06] <xales> LargePrime: It's a setting on your monitor or graphics card control panel, not in game
#1706 [20:06] <Kealper> Hatter: there is really nothing we can tell you here aside from just keep spamming their email boxes or tweet them
#1707 [20:06] <LargePrime> thanks
#1708 [20:06] <Hatter> Fantastic.
#1709 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Hatter: sorry we don't have a better answer, but no one here works for Mojang or has any access to their emails or account records.
#1710 [20:09] <Hatter> Wonderful.
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#1712 [20:10] <xales> Hatter: What address were you emailing, by the way?
#1713 [20:10] <xales> Are you sure it was the correct one, support@mojang.com ?
#1714 [20:10] <Hatter> Support@mojang.com
#1715 [20:10] <xales> not capital
#1716 [20:10] <Hatter> Considering it was the one from the site, Yes.
#1717 [20:10] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1718 [20:10] <xales> Hatter: Send an email right now and put #minecrafthelp in the subject
#1719 [20:10] <Hatter> I'm pretty sure it was the correct email
#1720 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> Hatter: it's an important detail. Support and support mean two different things to email servers.
#1721 [20:11] <Kealper> why are we talking like this?
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#1723 [20:11] <BoosterEngineer> how are you talking like that?
#1724 [20:12] <Hatter> because you touch yourself at night
#1725 [20:12] <Kealper> /kick Hatter
#1726 [20:12] * xales kicked Hatter from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Grow up.)
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#1728 [20:12] <AG_Scott> or op M so I can.
#1729 [20:12] <xales> oh, hey
#1730 [20:12] * Kealper kicked Hatter from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Hatter)
#1731 [20:12] <SkiingPenguins> its kind of hard not to.. seeing as how I AM ASLEEP AND CANT HELP IT
#1732 [20:12] <Sarkdog> lol
#1733 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft is Serious Business.
#1734 [20:12] <SkiingPenguins> lol
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#1736 [20:12] <xales> DopeGhoti: THE INTERNET IS SRS BSNS
#1737 [20:13] <AG_Scott> How come M isn't op in here anyways xales?
#1738 [20:13] <xales> AG_Scott: No need for it to be
#1739 [20:13] <AG_Scott> ah
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#1741 [20:14] <SkiingPenguins> btw this has blossomed http://penguinzone.servegame.com/MCH_PieSpy/minecrafthelp-current.png
#1742 [20:14] <LargePrime> hold on, since when does email care about letter case?
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#1744 [20:14] <xales> LargePrime: Depends on the mailserver
#1745 [20:14] <SkiingPenguins> bbl.
#1746 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> interesting that it thinks I never talk to Kealper.
#1747 [20:14] <LargePrime> i thought the protocol did not support
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#1749 [20:15] <Hatter> DopeGhoti I was refering in the sense of support
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#1752 [20:16] <xales> Hatter: We are community support? Problem? We don't have to offer you support
#1753 [20:16] <Kealper> dope i think it only counts when one person hilights another
#1754 [20:16] <xales> If you are going to be rude, you have no right to be here. You can leave.
#1755 [20:16] <Kealper> yes, Hatter: before saying i'm not equipt to deal with people, why don't you take a look a the rules?
#1756 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> It's scary how close to the center of that graph I am.
#1757 [20:17] <Hatter> Don't care to.
#1758 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Hatter: so long as you are aware that ignorance of the rules is no excuse for violating them.
#1759 [20:17] <LargePrime> apparently me and xales are buds
#1760 [20:17] <LargePrime> sorry xales
#1761 [20:18] <Hatter> Yeahok
#1762 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Hatter: gesundheit.
#1763 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Is there a problem here?
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#1765 [20:20] <Kealper> meh
#1766 [20:20] * Kealper goes back to looking at a screen of code
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#1767 [20:21] * DopeGhoti has a release on hold until our SQL guy releases an update to a big-ass script, then I can slog through this release and go home.
#1767 [20:21] * DopeGhoti wants to go home.
#1767 [20:21] <Kealper> lol
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#1773 [20:52] <Mooseeeeey> Hey guys
#1774 [20:52] <Mooseeeeey> !isdown
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#1776 [20:56] <Kealper> does that even do anything without a param?
#1777 [20:56] <Kealper> !isdown
#1778 [20:57] <Kealper> it doesn't....people! stop failing!
#1779 [21:00] <SkiingPenguins> !isdown
#1780 [21:00] <SkiingPenguins> lol
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#1782 [21:00] <SkiingPenguins> could be because of the aubot thing
#1783 [21:01] <Kealper> eh?
#1784 [21:01] <Kealper> aubot doesn't handle isdown
#1785 [21:01] <Kealper> waaaait
#1786 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#1787 [21:01] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1788 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#1790 [21:01] <Kealper> yeah, i knew it worked with params
#1791 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#1792 [21:01] <Kealper> !motd
#1793 [21:02] <Kealper> bah, too lazy to change aubot's motd
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#1795 [21:04] <ItsCriminal> !paid ItsCriminal
#1796 [21:04] <ItsCriminal> :D
#1797 [21:05] <ItsCriminal> is it allowed to check the status of a friend its now over 24hours ago and no activation of his account, no email answers he has no contact somehow?
#1798 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#1799 [21:05] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1800 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#1801 [21:06] <ItsCriminal> :P
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#1811 [21:43] <ngc0202> hey
#1812 [21:44] <ngc0202> what is the time
#1813 [21:44] <ngc0202> between when dispensers trigger?
#1814 [21:48] <ConMan8> They trigger when they get power.. and every second while powered
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#1816 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1817 [22:00] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#1818 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> dispensers don't fire while still powered
#1819 [22:01] <ngc0202> yeah
#1820 [22:01] <ngc0202> ik
#1821 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> dispensers only fired when they get on signal from off.
#1822 [22:01] <ngc0202> but
#1823 [22:01] <SkiingPenguins> i thought about commenting about that.. but.. yea.
#1824 [22:01] <ngc0202> but they have a limit
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#1826 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> You mean the fastest they can fire?
#1827 [22:02] <ngc0202> yeah
#1828 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Design them right, you can do 1-tick clock powered dispensers
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#1830 [22:02] <ngc0202> mine arent going off
#1831 [22:03] <ngc0202> every time it changes to pow'd
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#1836 [22:07] <ngc0202> which it should right?
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#1838 [22:08] <ngc0202> greyvulpine?
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#1840 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> ?
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#1844 [22:12] <ngc0202> should it?
#1845 [22:12] <ngc0202> mine are delaying a little after every 2 triggers
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#1847 [22:13] <ngc0202> while the clock is still flashing
#1848 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> It all depends on how you're setting it up
#1849 [22:13] <ngc0202> erm
#1850 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Is your 1-tick clock seperate from your design?
#1851 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> er, from your dispensers?
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#1853 [22:19] <EmpiresBane> i had a terrible idea just now
#1854 [22:19] <EmpiresBane> we set the channel +m and have a bot only voice people after they've pm'd it a certain command
#1855 [22:20] <EmpiresBane> and the command is found at the end of the rules list
#1856 [22:20] <Forge> >.>
#1857 [22:20] <Forge> That sounds fairly smart...
#1858 [22:21] <EmpiresBane> unfortunately, i know it would be a failure
#1859 [22:21] <EmpiresBane> there's no way to tell if someone tried to say something
#1860 [22:21] <Forge> Alas, how many good plans end.
#1861 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> We also tried that out EmpiresBane
#1862 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Didn't work too well
#1863 [22:25] <EmpiresBane> yeah, i knew it wouldn't
#1864 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> I believe xales still has the script
#1865 [22:25] <EmpiresBane> just can't fix stupid
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#1867 [22:27] <Forge> '/import smarts' doesn't work?
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#1869 [22:35] <Decree_> hey
#1870 [22:35] <Decree_> im constantly running into this issue
#1871 [22:35] <Decree_> http://pastebin.com/ysuPDAQL
#1872 [22:35] <Decree_> oops wrong place sorry
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#1876 [22:40] <Ryukin> Hello!
#1877 [22:40] <Ryukin> I was wondering if someone could help me very quickly :3
#1878 [22:41] <Ryukin> Anyoneeee?
#1879 [22:41] <xales> With?
#1880 [22:41] <Ryukin> Oh Hello
#1881 [22:42] <Ryukin> Just a quick thing. Im helping my friend hosting his own minecraft alpha multiplayer server
#1882 [22:42] <Ryukin> He has everything running fine..except commands
#1883 [22:42] <Ryukin> There are none!
#1884 [22:42] <Ryukin> Besides /op <name> we cant use any
#1885 [22:42] <xales> By alpha, you mean Beta/Survival, correct?
#1886 [22:42] <Ryukin> Do you have a suggestion of how to add some?
#1887 [22:42] <xales> Or do you mean actually Alpha
#1888 [22:42] <Ryukin> nono
#1889 [22:42] <Ryukin> like, creative
#1890 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> classic creative then
#1891 [22:42] <Ryukin> Yes.
#1892 [22:43] <xales> The commands it has are in the README file
#1893 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> in the server console, have him type in "op hisname"
#1894 [22:43] <Ryukin> We have me set as op, but there are no cammds
#1895 [22:43] <Ryukin> commands*
#1896 [22:43] <Ryukin> not even /help
#1897 [22:43] <Ryukin> but, you said its ALL in the readme.txt?
#1898 [22:44] <Ryukin> How does he actually implement these commands? Should he make a different .txt?
#1899 [22:44] <xales> They all work by default
#1900 [22:44] <xales> and if you are entering it on the console, you do not put a / in front
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#1902 [22:47] <Ryukin> Hmm
#1903 [22:47] <Ryukin> Well he says that it has nothing about commands inside the readme.txt
#1904 [22:47] <Ryukin> Just some mumbo jumbo about dll-files.com
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#1906 [22:48] <xales> I just checked, and it does
#1907 [22:48] <xales> make sure he is looking at the right readme file
#1908 [22:48] <Ryukin> file? or txt?
#1909 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> readme.txt
#1910 [22:48] <Zachy> My minecraft does not work, In the Browser or Client. I've reinstalled it hundreds of times and Nothing. Reinstalled Java hundreds of times and nothing
#1911 [22:48] <bacon> Are you sure you got the server files from minecraft.net?
#1912 [22:49] <xales> Zachy: Define "does not work"
#1913 [22:49] <Ryukin> Well, we can do basic things
#1914 [22:49] * bacon thinks hundreds is pretty persistent
#1914 [22:49] <oldtopman> What OS?
#1915 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> And I can confirm. The "README.TXT" file does have a list of commands in there
#1916 [22:49] <Ryukin> But ill ask him
#1917 [22:49] <Zachy> In the browser, just a blank white screen after many refreshes. Client it lets me login then exits itself and a notepad document opens up on my desktop and has a bunch of information, but I cannot read script
#1918 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy that document and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL to it
#1919 [22:50] <Zachy> Yes
#1920 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> We might be able to take a shot at it
#1921 [22:51] <Ryukin> Is there a way, that my friend could have skipped a certain file to download?
#1922 [22:51] <Ryukin> Because he's rechecked it multiple times, and it donesnt say a word about commands
#1923 [22:51] <oldtopman> !paid Zacky
#1924 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> If he downloaded the classic, creative server zip, it should've included 3 files in inside
#1925 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> No way he could've missed it
#1926 [22:52] <Zachy> http://pastebin.com/cdDXrWfW
#1927 [22:52] <Zachy> I also paid in ALPHA.
#1928 [22:54] <Zachy> Any clues on whats wrong?
#1929 [22:54] * bacon is wondering what other people think the problem is
#1929 [22:55] <bacon> Zachy: What OS are you running?
#1930 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> weird.. why is lwjgl calling a raw part of memory..
#1931 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Looks like win7
#1932 [22:55] <Zachy> Windows 7. But its not Genuine, but its not ever had a problem running it b4
#1933 [22:56] <bacon> What's your user account name, the name used when it was first created?
#1934 [22:56] <Zachy> ItsZachy
#1935 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> You said you've reinstalled java and minecraft multiple times.
#1936 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> What else have you tried?
#1937 [22:57] <Zachy> Correct
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#1939 [22:57] <Zachy> I havnt tried anything else
#1940 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> And how did you reinstall minecraft?
#1941 [22:57] <PwndByChips> Hey, does anyone know which IP i forward for my server
#1942 [22:57] <Zachy> I just deleted the roaming files or watever the Appdata% folder and downloaded it again
#1943 [22:57] <PwndByChips> ALL THE ROAMING FILES?
#1944 [22:57] <xales> Zachy: Try updating your graphics card driver
#1945 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> PwndByChips - For your router? your private internal IP
#1946 [22:58] <PwndByChips> grey, is it the one from
#1947 [22:58] <PwndByChips> wait
#1948 [22:58] <PwndByChips> is it the 192.168.1.3
#1949 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1950 [22:58] <PwndByChips> can you try connecting to my server?
#1951 [22:58] <Zachy> Update my graphic cards driver?
#1952 [22:58] <xales> Yes
#1953 [22:58] <PwndByChips> its mchips.bounceme.net
#1954 [22:58] <xales> PwndByChips: you can use the bot to check. just say "!check (ip)"
#1955 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> !check mchips.bounceme.net
#1956 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1957 [22:58] <PwndByChips> wait
#1958 [22:59] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
#1959 [22:59] <PwndByChips> so use that one?
#1960 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1961 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> No
#1962 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Name: mchips.bounceme.net
#1963 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Address: 192.168.1.3
#1964 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> You need to configure that to point to your public IP
#1965 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> www.whatismyip.org
#1966 [22:59] <PwndByChips> how
#1967 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Well, uh, go to your account at bounceme.net, log in, go to the ip address setting
#1968 [23:00] <PwndByChips> do i have to port forward my external address?
#1969 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Clear the 192.168.1.3 address, and put in the right IP found at www.whatismyip.org
#1970 [23:01] <PwndByChips> ip chicken work too?
#1971 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1972 [23:01] <PwndByChips> ipchicken.com
#1973 [23:01] <PwndByChips> and do i have to port forward my external address too
#1974 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> I suppose that works
#1975 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Port forward... your external address?
#1976 [23:01] <PwndByChips> idk
#1977 [23:01] <PwndByChips> tnevermind
#1978 [23:01] <PwndByChips> im noob
#1979 [23:01] <PwndByChips> brb
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#1981 [23:01] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
#1982 [23:02] <xales> !check 71.237.58.86
#1983 [23:02] <PwndByChips> awesome
#1984 [23:02] <xales> PwndByChips: Just set the thing to point to 71.237.58.86
#1985 [23:02] <PwndByChips> it works
#1986 [23:02] <PwndByChips> i did
#1987 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> DNS might take a bit of time to propagate again
#1988 [23:04] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
#1989 [23:04] <PwndByChips> awesome
#1990 [23:06] <bacon> Kealper, the dictator of #minecrafthelp? D:
#1991 [23:07] <PwndByChips> !check pwndbychips
#1992 [23:07] <PwndByChips> oops
#1993 [23:07] <PwndByChips> haha
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#1995 [23:07] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
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#1997 [23:09] <PwndByChips> hmm
#1998 [23:10] <PwndByChips> my friend connects but instantly d/cs
#1999 [23:10] <xales> what error do they see
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#2002 [23:11] <Mathuin> Forum search error message made me think I got banned. :-P
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#2004 [23:12] <imtheguido> Hello everyone. I am having a technical problem and am seeking some assistance.
#2005 [23:12] <xales> What is the issue?
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#2007 [23:13] <xales> ngc0202: D:
#2008 [23:13] <imtheguido> The computer I am currently on is experiencing severe server lag. Blocks are destroyed and then respawning for a period of time before they dissapear again and the blocks appear in my inventory. The server however, sees the blocks being destroyed at a regular rate, and shows my avatar as picking up the blocks that are destroyed.
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#2010 [23:13] <imtheguido> I have two systems on the same network, the other system having no server lag at all, which is how I know that the server is seeing the blocks being destroyed and picked up at the same rate.
#2011 [23:14] <xales> Does the computer have the same lag in singleplayer? And are you playing on the same computer the server is running on?
#2012 [23:14] <imtheguido> There is no lag in single player, and the server is in another state.
#2013 [23:14] <xales> Does the computer get lag on every server, or just the one?
#2014 [23:15] <imtheguido> It is every server it connects to.
#2015 [23:15] <imtheguido> The other system connects to that same server and sees no lag at all.
#2016 [23:15] <PwndByChips> That would be your connection bro
#2017 [23:15] <xales> Are you trying to connect both at the same time?
#2018 [23:15] <imtheguido> I have updated both the wireless and the ethernet on this system.
#2019 [23:15] <imtheguido> Both are connected from the same network at the same time.
#2020 [23:15] <xales> Try only connecting the one that has the lag issue.
#2021 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> imtheguido: are the server and client on the same machine in this case?
#2022 [23:16] <imtheguido> No they are not.
#2023 [23:16] <xales> DopeGhoti: they already said no
#2024 [23:16] <PwndByChips> both similar specs?
#2025 [23:16] <imtheguido> Both computers are almost exact.
#2026 [23:16] <imtheguido> And I have connected to that same server with only this computer, and that lag is still there.
#2027 [23:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: yeah,but I just got home :p
#2028 [23:17] <PwndByChips> weird man
#2029 [23:17] <imtheguido> yes. I am totaly baffled. >.<
#2030 [23:17] <PwndByChips> use
#2031 [23:17] <imtheguido> My cousin wants to play with me and this is causing major issues.
#2032 [23:17] <xales> ??> imtheguido win/reinst
#2033 [23:17] <VoxelHead> imtheguido: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2034 [23:17] <VoxelHead> imtheguido: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2035 [23:17] <xales> try that on the computer experiencing lag
#2036 [23:17] <PwndByChips> use a large adress thing to appoint more ram to it if that doesnt work
#2037 [23:18] <xales> RAM is not the issue here
#2038 [23:18] <xales> :)
#2039 [23:18] <PwndByChips> idk i nubsauce <3
#2040 [23:18] <PwndByChips> Nothing is impossible
#2041 [23:18] <PwndByChips> <3
#2042 [23:19] <PwndByChips> So my friends cannot connect to my server... Why me...
#2043 [23:20] <xales> Why can't they?
#2044 [23:21] <Tris> is the port forwarded?
#2045 [23:21] <PwndByChips> wait
#2046 [23:21] <xales> Tris: It worked with the IP
#2047 [23:21] <PwndByChips> My internal one is
#2048 [23:21] <xales> PwndByChips: If they are using the bounceme thing, they might just need to wait for it to update
#2049 [23:21] <PwndByChips> No wait
#2050 [23:21] <PwndByChips> Cause !check validates it
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#2052 [23:22] <xales> The bounceme did not work when you last checked it
#2053 [23:22] <xales> your normal public IP did
#2054 [23:22] <xales> just have them use that
#2055 [23:22] <PwndByChips> Wait what...
#2056 [23:22] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
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#2058 [23:23] <PwndByChips> why they be grim you damn bot
#2059 [23:23] <PwndByChips> ummm so
#2060 [23:23] <PwndByChips> Oh
#2061 [23:23] <PwndByChips> Its cause i dont have server running
#2062 [23:24] <DopeGhoti> that'd do it.
#2063 [23:24] <Marcus> hey, i need help. i am in game and i try to chop down stuff like wood and it wont show in my invintory and then it pops back after like 5 seconds like i never did anything, on several different servers, then it says i have been disconected due to softwar problems or something. any advice?
#2064 [23:24] <Marcus> on multiplayer
#2065 [23:24] <PwndByChips> You lag
#2066 [23:24] <PwndByChips> Are you within spawn point?
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#2068 [23:24] <xales> Marcus: What is the speed of your Internet connection
#2069 [23:24] <Marcus> 7
#2070 [23:24] <PwndByChips> ouch
#2071 [23:25] <xales> 7?
#2072 [23:25] <EmpiresBane> 7?
#2073 [23:25] <xales> 7 what
#2074 [23:25] <PwndByChips> 7mbs or 7fps
#2075 [23:25] <Mathuin> And his phone number is 3.
#2076 [23:25] <PwndByChips> haha
#2077 [23:25] <PwndByChips> Nah its 555
#2078 [23:25] <Marcus> whatever the standard internet thing is. you know standard high speed is 5 whatever, and ours is 7. its more than plenty.
#2079 [23:26] <xales> Marcus: What, exactly, is the error that you get
#2080 [23:26] <PwndByChips> ummmm sure o.o
#2081 [23:26] <EmpiresBane> oh dear...
#2082 [23:26] <imtheguido> And back...
#2083 [23:26] <imtheguido> And that did not help. I am still experiencing the server lag.
#2084 [23:26] <Mathuin> Mine was *supposed* to go up to eleven.
#2085 [23:26] <EmpiresBane> i think New Mexico's area code is 555
#2086 [23:26] <xales> imtheguido: Is the computer a laptop?
#2087 [23:26] <Marcus> the error is like java.net.Server.Extension then some other junk
#2088 [23:26] <imtheguido> Yes
#2089 [23:27] <imtheguido> So is the other system.
#2090 [23:27] <xales> Marcus: That is not helpful. What exactly is the error
#2091 [23:27] <xales> imtheguido: is it connecting via WiFi?
#2092 [23:27] <Mathuin> Alas, one man's error junk is another man's diagnostics output.
#2093 [23:27] <Marcus> lemme find it, gimme bout 5 min.
#2094 [23:27] <imtheguido> Yes. I have also tried connecting via ethernet cable with the same results.
#2095 [23:28] <xales> imtheguido: On the problem-experiencing computer, go to http://speedtest.net/ run the test and paste the link here
#2096 [23:28] * xales back in a sec
#2096 [23:29] <Marcus> but also why would my laptop lag with the 7 whatever and it has 2 gigs and vista
#2097 [23:29] <PwndByChips> So i port forward internal adress and put external as server?
#2098 [23:29] <imtheguido> Wow. They updated the site! Sweet. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1193615593.png
#2099 [23:29] <EmpiresBane> marcus, can you also do what xales told imtheguido to do?
#2100 [23:30] <imtheguido> I use it on a regular basis.
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#2103 [23:30] <imtheguido> My ISP is not amazing. However, I am not experiencing any lag on my other laptop.
#2104 [23:30] <xales> imtheguido: I think the problem is just that your connection can't sustain two people playing at once
#2105 [23:30] <xales> That ping is very much too high
#2106 [23:30] <xales> Run http://pingtest.net/
#2107 [23:31] <imtheguido> And that would make sense, if running it only on this system meant no lag. However, only running it on this system still produces lag. And I will dot hat.
#2108 [23:31] <xolotl> Mathuin: Heyo, you around?
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#2110 [23:31] <Marcus> yes lemme run the speed test
#2111 [23:32] <PwndByChips> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1193615593.png
#2112 [23:32] <xolotl> Mathuin: Was just checking out that fix that you had for the rotated rectangles in TopoMC; it looks like Buildimages.py is calling checkMaxDepth() on line 112
#2113 [23:32] <PwndByChips> Its on my ipod lol
#2114 [23:32] <imtheguido> http://www.pingtest.net/result/36499248.png
#2115 [23:33] <Mathuin> xolotl: There's multiple changes in there now. :-( If you want to back out to where you were and just grab the new and improved GetDataset.py you should be fine.
#2116 [23:33] <xolotl> Mathuin: That function doesn't appear to exist, though. (Latest from master)
#2117 [23:33] <xales> PwndByChips: that..isn't your speedtest result
#2118 [23:33] <EmpiresBane> hm... what's jitter?
#2119 [23:33] <xolotl> Mathuin: Oh, kk, will do.
#2120 [23:33] <xales> EmpiresBane: change in ping over time
#2121 [23:33] <PwndByChips> Y
#2122 [23:33] <Mathuin> xolotl: There's almost definitely a caps issue.
#2123 [23:33] <PwndByChips> How is it not
#2124 [23:33] <xales> imtheguido: I think it might be related to networking hardware in the computer
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#2126 [23:33] <xales> PwndByChips: That was imtheguido's ping result
#2127 [23:33] <xolotl> Mathuin: Oh hey, so there is. Duh. Usually I know to do a case-insensitive search. :)
#2128 [23:33] <xales> The test will not work on an iPod
#2129 [23:34] <Mathuin> xolotl: Me too, but then I go and commit something like that. Bah.
#2130 [23:34] <xolotl> :)
#2131 [23:34] <imtheguido> I was hoping it wasnt the hardware going bad.
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#2133 [23:34] <Mathuin> I started following a new git religion. "A successful Git branching model"
#2134 [23:34] <ok> here are my results:ping is 53 ms. download is 11.45 mpbs and upload is 1.04 mpbs
#2135 [23:34] <PwndByChips> No it wasnt
#2136 [23:34] <ok> this is marcus btw
#2137 [23:34] <imtheguido> I have updated drivers for both the wireless and the ethernet.
#2138 [23:34] <Mathuin> I'm going to make the "develop" branch my current up-to-the-minute code, and "master" the release.
#2139 [23:34] <PwndByChips> Ping test doesnt but speed test does
#2140 [23:35] <xales> ok: What, exactly, is the error?
#2141 [23:35] <xolotl> Mathuin: Okay, a different error in bathy.py; I'll just assume that you know about these (or will find it soon enough). Will jump back to an earlier commit.
#2142 [23:35] <PwndByChips> Whatever
#2143 [23:35] <ok> still waiting on it to give it to me.
#2144 [23:35] <xales> PwndByChips: No, neither work. You need to go to http://speedtest.net/
#2145 [23:35] <Nolan_> Hey
#2146 [23:35] <ok> again
#2147 [23:35] <Nolan_> Help?
#2148 [23:35] <xales> Nolan_: With?
#2149 [23:35] <Nolan_> Remeber me?
#2150 [23:35] <Nolan_> the one with the Belkin
#2151 [23:35] <Mathuin> xolotl: I almost definitely do. Alternatively, copy *all* your work aside and do a brand new fresh pull of master -- or develop -- and tell me if there are any bugs.
#2152 [23:35] <xales> Ah, indeed
#2153 [23:35] <Nolan_> having all the issues
#2154 [23:35] <Nolan_> Well guess what
#2155 [23:35] <imtheguido> So I'm pretty much screwed then?
#2156 [23:35] <Nolan_> We got a new router!
#2157 [23:36] <xales> imtheguido: seems like it =\
#2158 [23:36] <Nolan_> So I want to set it up right
#2159 [23:36] <imtheguido> That totaly blows.
#2160 [23:36] <imtheguido> One sec.
#2161 [23:36] <Mathuin> xolotl: yeah, I'm currently regenerating my showcase based on the develop branch. Grab that one.
#2162 [23:36] <xales> Nolan_: Didn't we end up figuring out that the issue was with Comcast?
#2163 [23:36] <xales> oh..nevermind
#2164 [23:36] <xales> you aren't using Comcast :P
#2165 [23:36] <Nolan_> Xales I thought i set it up right but Im getting a outdated server error
#2166 [23:36] <Nolan_> fwrw
#2167 [23:36] <Nolan_> I left?
#2168 [23:37] <imtheguido> going to run a third computer to see if that computer is having the same issues.
#2169 [23:37] <xales> Nolan_: If you are getting an outdated server error, then update the server? :)
#2170 [23:37] <Nolan_> How?
#2171 [23:37] <xales> You just need to redownload the .exe or .jar
#2172 [23:37] <Mathuin> download a new minecraft_server.jar ?
#2173 [23:37] <xales> and replace the old one
#2174 [23:37] <PwndByChips> Wow
#2175 [23:37] <xolotl> Mathuin: Oh, so just grab the latest from "develop?" will do.
#2176 [23:37] <Nolan_> So a new world basicly?
#2177 [23:37] <xales> Nolan_: Nope, world will stay the same
#2178 [23:37] <xales> just update the .exe or .jar
#2179 [23:38] <Nolan_> ok, hey Xales is there any we you and I could share screens?
#2180 [23:38] <Nolan_> You on a mac?
#2181 [23:38] <Mathuin> xolotl: yeah, and if you have *any* problems, let me know, because like I said I've built some seriously big stuff with them this evening without changes.
#2182 [23:38] <xales> Nolan_: I would if I could, but most of that stuff is broken on my computer :P
#2183 [23:38] <Mathuin> Any cross-testing on the rotating-rectangles fix would be seriously appreciated.
#2184 [23:38] <Nolan_> grrrr
#2185 [23:38] <xolotl> Mathuin: Will do
#2186 [23:38] <xales> I'm running a prerelease of 10.6
#2187 [23:38] <xales> and never bothered to update (requires reinstalling)
#2188 [23:39] <xales> Nolan_: Just download the server .jar file from minecraft.net and replace the old one
#2189 [23:40] <Nolan_> where do I find that agian lo
#2190 [23:41] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#2192 [23:41] <Nolan_> just replace it in my Minecraft server folder?
#2193 [23:41] <Auekard> anyone on?
#2194 [23:42] <Auekard> nolan can u see if my server works
#2195 [23:42] <Nolan_> Not right now sorry
#2196 [23:42] <PwndByChips> Crap
#2197 [23:42] <Auekard> can anyone els possibly help out?
#2198 [23:42] <PwndByChips> Possibly
#2199 [23:42] <xales> Nolan_: yes
#2200 [23:43] <xales> Auekard: With?
#2201 [23:43] <Nolan_> Hey Im back on!
#2202 [23:43] <PwndByChips> wb man!
#2203 [23:43] <Auekard> just check if my server works
#2204 [23:43] <Auekard> 98.229.254.89
#2205 [23:43] <xales> Auekard: you can use the bot to do that
#2206 [23:43] <PwndByChips> !check 92.229.254.89
#2207 [23:43] <xales> and no, it does not
#2208 [23:43] <PwndByChips> Oops
#2209 [23:44] <PwndByChips> !checj 98.229.254.89
#2210 [23:44] <PwndByChips> Ahh
#2211 [23:44] <PwndByChips> !check 98.229.254.89
#2212 [23:44] <PwndByChips> damn ipod
#2213 [23:44] <Auekard> !check 98.229.254.89
#2214 [23:44] <Auekard> okay good good lol thanks ima keep that in mind ;P
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#2216 [23:45] <Jackson413> well im waiting for 5477 tnts to explode
#2217 [23:45] <Jackson413> i have time to kill
#2218 [23:45] <Jackson413> anyone need help?
#2219 [23:46] <PwndByChips> i do
#2220 [23:46] <PwndByChips> :) im needy
#2221 [23:46] <Jackson413> voxel, fire everything you have at Jackson413
#2222 [23:46] <Jackson413> yes?
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#2224 [23:46] <Jackson413> voxel, fire everything you got at Jackson413
#2225 [23:46] <Mathuin> I need to buy a new freaking computer. :-(
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#2227 [23:47] <Jackson413> voxel, fire everything you have at Mathuin
#2228 [23:47] <PwndByChips> So i port forward 192.168.1.3 and set external ip as server thing friends type in?
#2229 [23:47] <Jackson413> no
#2230 [23:47] <Jackson413> you need your local ip
#2231 [23:48] <PwndByChips> isnt 192.168.1.3 my local ip
#2232 [23:48] <Jackson413> no
#2233 [23:48] <Jackson413> start>run>cmd
#2234 [23:48] <PwndByChips> Ipconfig
#2235 [23:48] <Jackson413> yeah
#2236 [23:48] <PwndByChips> Ipv4 or default gateway
#2237 [23:49] <Jackson413> ip address
#2238 [23:49] <PwndByChips> There are many
#2239 [23:49] <Mathuin> Jackson413: it's very likely that PwndByChips has as his local IP address 192.168.1.3
#2240 [23:49] <xales> PwndByChips: You have port forwarding correct already
#2241 [23:49] <PwndByChips> Thats what i port forwarded it
#2242 [23:49] <EmpiresBane> !check 71.237.58.86
#2243 [23:49] <xales> just set the bounceme thing to forward to the IP it gives you on http://whatismyip.org/
#2244 [23:49] <PwndByChips> You helped me with it yesterday
#2245 [23:50] <PwndByChips> Bane i dont have server running
#2246 [23:50] <Jackson413> !check mcbans.com
#2247 [23:50] <Jackson413> then it isnt just me
#2248 [23:50] <PwndByChips> does ipchicken work
#2249 [23:50] <xales> Jackson413: That checks if a minecraft server is running
#2250 [23:50] <xales> not if the host is reachable at all
#2251 [23:50] <Jackson413> yeah i know
#2252 [23:50] <PwndByChips> www.ipchicken.com
#2253 [23:50] <Jackson413> mcbans is a server too dear
#2254 [23:50] <xales> PwndByChips: Just set the bounceme thing
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#2256 [23:51] <EmpiresBane> bbl, i need a shower
#2257 [23:51] <xales> to point to the Ip from http://whatismyip.org/
#2258 [23:51] <PwndByChips> I set it to that number to bounceme but friends cannot connect
#2259 [23:51] <xales> it might take a minute
#2260 [23:51] <xales> just have them use that number for now to connect
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#2262 [23:51] <PwndByChips> It says their ip disconnected and they get all messed up
#2263 [23:51] <PwndByChips> Ill try tomorrow
#2264 [23:51] <PwndByChips> Thanks
#2265 [23:52] <Jackson413> try
#2266 [23:52] <Jackson413> http://www.whatismyip.com
#2267 [23:52] <xales> Jackson413: he just left...
#2268 [23:53] <Nolan_> Anyone play on Minecraps server?
#2269 [23:53] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#2270 [23:53] <Jackson413> still tnt exploing good good
#2271 [23:54] <Nolan_> !check 67.76.150.56
#2272 [23:54] <Nolan_> Thats what ip chicken is giving me
#2273 [23:56] <Nolan_> Help ^
#2274 [23:56] <xales> Nolan_: Did you port forward?
#2275 [23:56] <Nolan_> Yes but I did get a double Nat warning on my router
#2276 [23:56] <xales> what exactly did it say
#2277 [23:57] <Jackson413> http://dinnerbone.com/
#2278 [23:57] <Jackson413> hahaha
#2279 [23:57] <Nolan_> I thought I port forwarded right
#2280 [23:57] <xales> Nolan_: what did that warning it give you say
#2281 [23:57] <Jackson413> Voxel, fire everything you have at Jackson413
#2282 [23:58] <Nolan_> Double Nat
#2283 [23:58] <xales> Nolan_: Is that all it said?
#2284 [23:58] <Zachy> Updated my Graphics but no luck, still same notepad coming up
#2285 [23:58] <Nolan_> For errors on my routter yet
#2286 [23:58] <Nolan_> yes
#2287 [23:59] <xales> ??> Zachy win/dxdiag
#2288 [23:59] <VoxelHead> Zachy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2289 [23:59] <VoxelHead> Zachy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2290 [23:59] <xales> Nolan_: Can you go to your router's status page
#2291 [23:59] <xales> it should have an "External IP" or "WAN IP"
#2292 [23:59] <Nolan_> If it helps Im using a Airport Extreme