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#8 [00:15] <resist888> Anyone else getting the old "took too long to log in" error?
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#10 [00:16] <xales> resist888: Are you getting it now?
#11 [00:16] <resist888> Wasn't the move to Amazon servers meant to fix authentication timeout issues?
#12 [00:16] <resist888> Yeah .. Getting it now. :-/
#13 [00:16] <xales> What server are you trying to connect to?
#14 [00:16] <xales> Try a different one
#15 [00:18] <resist888> I'll find another and try it :-)
#16 [00:18] <resist888> Thanks Xales
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#18 [00:23] <aetherian> hmm
#19 [00:23] <aetherian> seems pretty slow right now
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#23 [00:47] <Thoatt> fun night
#24 [00:47] <Thoatt> :)
#25 [00:47] <VoxelHead> :-)
#26 [00:47] <bokaholic> :D
#27 [00:53] <xales> ??>> Scanlon smp/servers
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#29 [00:55] <Chr|s> man
#30 [00:55] <Chr|s> I accidently deleted my minecraft launcher...now how to get it to work again
#31 [00:56] <Chr|s> using java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#32 [00:56] <xales> no, don't launch it like that
#33 [00:56] <Chr|s> ahh
#34 [00:56] <xales> just java -memoryargs -jar Minecraft.jar
#35 [00:56] <xales> replace memoryargs with the Xmx
#36 [00:56] <Chr|s> oh yeah
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#38 [00:59] <Mathuin> So the new server seems to be a bit more rigorous about informing you of your name registration status. It also forgot mine so I had to re-register.
#39 [00:59] <Mathuin> This happen to anyone else?
#40 [01:00] <xales> It shouldn't have
#41 [01:00] <Mathuin> It totally did.
#42 [01:00] <Mathuin> It didn't remember my old registration, I had to register again, and I had to confirm a magic code from an email.
#43 [01:03] <Chr|s> hmm java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar ~/Minecraft/Minecraft.jar not working
#44 [01:03] <xales> how is it "not working"?
#45 [01:03] <Thoatt> what error is ig giving?
#46 [01:03] <Thoatt> it*
#47 [01:03] <Chr|s> its not working thats how its not working
#48 [01:03] <Chr|s> no error whatsoever
#49 [01:04] <Thoatt> put pause after it
#50 [01:04] <Thoatt> so like, the java line, then pause after
#51 [01:04] <Thoatt> that will halt the batch file and allow you to read what it says
#52 [01:04] <xales> Chr|s: wait, are you on Windows?
#53 [01:04] <Chr|s> xales: no
#54 [01:04] <Thoatt> no.. damnit
#55 [01:04] <Thoatt> her
#56 [01:04] <Thoatt> p
#57 [01:04] <Chr|s> ubuntu
#58 [01:05] <xales> redownload minecraft.jar?
#59 [01:05] <Chr|s> minecraft.jar works fine
#60 [01:05] <Chr|s> I want to make a launcher for it
#61 [01:05] <Thoatt> Are you running it as a command? or a script?
#62 [01:05] <xales> um...what?
#63 [01:05] <xales> a launcher for a launcher?
#64 [01:05] <Thoatt> a launcher to make the launcher lauinch with parameters...
#65 [01:05] <Thoatt> launch*
#66 [01:06] <Chr|s> a launcher to launch the jar
#67 [01:06] <Chr|s> correct
#68 [01:06] <Mathuin> I have an icon on my ubuntu desktop that does that.
#69 [01:06] <Mathuin> Are you making one of those?
#70 [01:06] <Chr|s> Yup
#71 [01:06] <Thoatt> try the command in shell
#72 [01:06] <Chr|s> what does your icon say?
#73 [01:06] <Thoatt> see if it works
#74 [01:06] <Mathuin> I actually don't assign it any parameters at all.
#75 [01:06] <Chr|s> Thoatt: it works in shell
#76 [01:06] <Mathuin> And it works fine.
#77 [01:07] <Chr|s> Mariu5: ahh ok
#78 [01:07] <Mathuin> Yep, just tested it.
#79 [01:08] <Thoatt> Did you /want/ the extra parameters?
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#81 [01:10] <Thoatt> http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/res/2286407670.html
#82 [01:10] <Humphrey1989> help
#83 [01:10] <Thoatt> loooool
#84 [01:10] <Thoatt> Humphrey1989: With?
#85 [01:10] <Humphrey1989> bukkit minecraft server linux startup script
#86 [01:10] <Humphrey1989> for centos
#87 [01:11] <xales> if it's for bukkit, go to #bukkit
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#89 [01:11] <VoxelHead> Bye Humphrey1989.
#90 [01:11] <Thoatt> VoxelHead is so great lol
#91 [01:12] <Thoatt> anywho.. brb
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#93 [01:15] <aetherian> haha
#94 [01:15] <VoxelHead> nothing will stand in my way... not even drool!
#95 [01:15] <aetherian> .o.
#96 [01:17] <Thoatt> random...
#97 [01:18] <Mathuin> I fear the bot's standing drool.
#98 [01:19] <Chr|s> yeah im not sure, its still not working the way I want it to work
#99 [01:24] <Chr|s> even when just using /home/chris/Minecraft/minecraft.jar to the jar file it wont load o.0
#100 [01:25] <Chr|s> oh well no worreis
#101 [01:25] <Chr|s> worries
#102 [01:25] <Mathuin> Mine works at /home/jmt/Downloads/minecraft.jar -- do you have the execute bit enabled on your file?
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#105 [01:30] <Feilexter> Is this a help treads?
#106 [01:30] <xales> Yes
#107 [01:30] <Thoatt> Someething like that. Whatcha need?
#108 [01:30] <Thoatt> -e
#109 [01:31] <Feilexter> i need help with this connect to minecraft server issue..
#110 [01:31] <Thoatt> Can other people connect to the server?
#111 [01:31] <Feilexter> any server i connect give me a funny issue, so i set up my own on localhost and the same issue continue
#112 [01:32] <Thoatt> ??> Feilexter win/reinst
#113 [01:32] <VoxelHead> Feilexter: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#114 [01:32] <VoxelHead> Feilexter: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#115 [01:32] <Thoatt> Have you tried that?
#116 [01:32] <VoxelHead> if i tell you, i will have to kill you
#117 [01:32] <Feilexter> like the game client crash, or packet id error or javaioerror
#118 [01:32] <Feilexter> yes, i have force update it like 100 times, lol
#119 [01:32] <xales> Feilexter: what version is listed in the top left?
#120 [01:33] <Feilexter> 1.3.01
#121 [01:33] <xales> do you have a firewall running?
#122 [01:33] <Feilexter> hmmm, zonealarm, but java was giving full access
#123 [01:34] <xales> try disabling it
#124 [01:36] <Feilexter> ok, minecraft just updating
#125 [01:39] <Feilexter> ooo, it work, but why did i spawn in the nether with a huge world hole all over?
#126 [01:39] <Feilexter> oh wait, firewall did not allow minecraft server
#127 [01:41] <LoRDTrevor> hellworld=true
#128 [01:42] <Feilexter> so how do you enable portal to hell world in multiplayer?
#129 [01:43] <Thoatt> You can not.
#130 [01:43] <LoRDTrevor> bukkit can
#131 [01:43] <Thoatt> This isn't the bukkit channel, now is it? ;)
#132 [01:43] <Feilexter> bukkit? a coustom server mod or something?
#133 [01:44] <LoRDTrevor> he asked how to
#134 [01:44] <Thoatt> He can't with the normal minecraft server.
#135 [01:45] <Thoatt> Feilexter:
#136 [01:45] <Thoatt> http://bukkit.org/
#137 [01:45] <LoRDTrevor> well then instead of saying no direct him to #bukkit
#138 [01:45] <Chr|s> ok this don't work "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024 -jar /home/chris/Minecraft/minecraft.jar" this does "java -jar /home/chris/Minecraft/minecraft.jar" I want to use the memory arguments
#139 [01:46] <Chr|s> some how I need to get the memory args to work
#140 [01:47] <Feilexter> it seem withour firewall connection is still disconnect.genericreason
#141 [01:47] <Thoatt> make a shell script to open it :)
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#143 [01:49] <Chr|s> Thoatt: yes, but it will then ask me if I want to run in terminal, display it, run it
#144 [01:49] <Chr|s> I want it to automatically launch
#145 [01:50] <Thoatt> Did you make the script executable?
#146 [01:50] <Thoatt> chmod +x blah.sh
#147 [01:50] <Feilexter> server is not responding at all, i mean you dig and it did not give....
#148 [01:51] <Chr|s> Yes
#149 [01:51] <Feilexter> do anyone know what is going on?
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#151 [01:51] <Thoatt> and you have #!/bin/sh at the top?
#152 [01:51] <Chr|s> Feilexter: is it right next to your spawn area?
#153 [01:51] <Feilexter> all over the map it seem
#154 [01:51] <Mathuin> When making trees of different types, I still use block value 18, type value 0-3?
#155 [01:52] <Chr|s> go away from your spawn area a lil way
#156 [01:52] <Chr|s> and try
#157 [01:52] <Chr|s> Thoatt: yes
#158 [01:53] <Feilexter> ok it seem to work with like half a sec delay, but the whole point of a island map is to spawn on an island...
#159 [01:53] <Chr|s> you can move your spawn with a mod
#160 [01:54] <Thoatt> Chr|s: in nautilus, go to edit -> preferences -> bahavior. under executable text files, select Run instad of ask.
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#162 [01:54] <Chr|s> cool
#163 [01:55] <Chr|s> Thoatt: it don't ask now, also it don't work lol
#164 [01:55] <Thoatt> ._.
#165 [01:55] <Chr|s> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024 -jar /home/chris/Minecraft/minecraft.jar
#166 [01:55] <Chr|s> is what I have
#167 [01:55] <Chr|s> of course I have at the top #!/bin/sh
#168 [01:55] <Mathuin> OMG THE WOLVES ARE SO CUTE
#169 [01:56] <Thoatt> try java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp /home/chris/Minecraft/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#170 [01:56] <Thoatt> also, make sure all the capitalization is correct with the directory, etc.
#171 [01:56] <Thoatt> If it doesn't work: Does it give an error?
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#173 [01:57] <Thoatt> If not, add sleep 30
#174 [01:57] <Chr|s> that worked Thoatt
#175 [01:57] <Thoatt> did it?
#176 [01:57] <Thoatt> ok cool lol
#177 [01:57] <Chr|s> Yup
#178 [01:57] <Chr|s> thought I needed the -jar arguement
#179 [01:57] <Thoatt> in windows you do.
#180 [01:57] <Chr|s> ahh ok
#181 [01:59] <aetherian> uh
#182 [01:59] <aetherian> which one was the starter, -Xms?
#183 [01:59] <Thoatt> yep
#184 [02:00] <aetherian> and -Xmx was the max, thenn/
#185 [02:00] <aetherian> ack
#186 [02:00] <Thoatt> yep
#187 [02:00] <aetherian> if one leaves the -Xmx out, does it stretch to infinity, or not start?
#188 [02:01] <Thoatt> You don't need it, but it won't be a predicatable cap
#189 [02:01] <Chr|s> boy
#190 [02:01] <Chr|s> almost using 1gig lol
#191 [02:01] <Thoatt> setting the cap gives you predictability
#192 [02:01] <aetherian> heh
#193 [02:01] <VoxelHead> =)
#194 [02:01] <aetherian> it also can slow down the program
#195 [02:01] <Chr|s> feels like im laggin bad :(
#196 [02:02] <aetherian> what's the framerate?
#197 [02:02] <aetherian> (press f3)
#198 [02:02] <Chr|s> yeah i know lol67 just standing straight looking in distance
#199 [02:03] <aetherian> but... rate?
#200 [02:03] <Chr|s> wow it flucates bad
#201 [02:03] <Chr|s> 61fps
#202 [02:03] <aetherian> oh pfft, that's not bad
#203 [02:03] <Thoatt> does it lag that bad in sp?
#204 [02:03] <Thoatt> fuuuu!
#205 [02:03] <Chr|s> playing on a server now servercraft.co just 2 people
#206 [02:03] <Thoatt> Just did my own pet peeve...
#207 [02:04] <Thoatt> does it 'lag' that bad***
#208 [02:04] <Thoatt> lol
#209 [02:04] <aetherian> hey, I only get 100 fps on average, and I run a nice computer
#210 [02:04] <Chr|s> sometimes I almost have 400fps
#211 [02:04] <aetherian> I used to have ~400
#212 [02:05] <Chr|s> flucuates bad though :(
#213 [02:05] <aetherian> I can't get it to be that high in linux now ;_;
#214 [02:06] <Chr|s> its hardly touching my memory I have 6 gig currently
#215 [02:06] <Chr|s> could be my cpu its 2.5ghz
#216 [02:08] <Chr|s> that was with fog being short
#217 [02:08] <Chr|s> normal is actually better
#218 [02:08] <Chr|s> doesn't fluctuate as bad
#219 [02:09] <Thoatt> brb again >.>
#220 [02:14] <aetherian> whoa
#221 [02:14] <aetherian> I get a ~50 framerate boost without smooth lighting
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#223 [02:15] <Chr|s> without?
#224 [02:15] <Chr|s> hmm
#225 [02:15] <Chr|s> wow
#226 [02:15] <Chr|s> I can see the difference too
#227 [02:16] <Chr|s> wonder what happens when you turn the sound off? lol
#228 [02:16] <aetherian> and a ~350 framerate boost switching from far render distance to tiny
#229 [02:16] <aetherian> o.o
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#232 [02:17] <aetherian> so smooth :o
#233 [02:17] <Chr|s> yeah but walk around let the tiles load
#234 [02:17] <Chr|s> watch it flucuate
#235 [02:18] <aetherian> it fluctuates within a range of only ~50 framerate
#236 [02:18] <aetherian> at the ~450 level, that's not much
#237 [02:18] <Chr|s> hmm
#238 [02:18] <aetherian> <3 my 4GB ram and 1GB gpu
#239 [02:18] <aetherian> but I can't play with tiny render
#240 [02:18] <aetherian> and I can play with ~100 fps
#241 [02:18] <aetherian> so far it is!
#242 [02:18] <Chr|s> was going from 300-400 to down to 50-60
#243 [02:19] <aetherian> well, is it a new world?
#244 [02:19] <Chr|s> tI have 1gig gpu and 6 gigs :(
#245 [02:19] <Chr|s> no
#246 [02:19] <aetherian> well
#247 [02:19] <aetherian> then
#248 [02:19] <aetherian> yay i7 processor :D
#249 [02:20] <Chr|s> I have AMD Pheno x4
#250 [02:20] <Chr|s> Phenom
#251 [02:20] * aetherian doesn't claim to know specs
#251 [02:23] <aetherian> the heck
#252 [02:23] <aetherian> the thing tells me I have 4099MB of ram
#253 [02:24] <aetherian> if I have 4GB, isn't that 4098MB?
#254 [02:24] <Chr|s> ehh something like that I know a gig is 1024
#255 [02:24] <Chr|s> don't ask me to add this late lol
#256 [02:24] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#257 [02:25] <AG_Clinton> You should have 4096
#258 [02:25] <aetherian> ehh yeah
#259 [02:25] <aetherian> same difference
#260 [02:25] <aetherian> I agree with chris, I can't add >.>
#261 [02:26] <aetherian> or multiply, for that matter
#262 [02:26] <aetherian> and I'm too lazy to open up a calculator apparently
#263 [02:27] <aetherian> hmm
#264 [02:27] <aetherian> see, nowadays, it's harder to see if a processor is good
#265 [02:28] <aetherian> more cores and less GHz
#266 [02:28] <Chr|s> yeah
#267 [02:28] <aetherian> I need to look up what's generally the best balance
#268 [02:28] <aetherian> and what the two hertz things mean. (I've never really looked into processors)
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#270 [02:29] <aetherian> I mean, it sayd blah blah @ 1.60GHz 933,00MHz
#271 [02:29] <aetherian> *933.00
#272 [02:30] <aetherian> why do things have to be so complicated--why can't a computer just be a nice rock
#273 [02:30] <aetherian> nice and simple
#274 [02:31] <Chr|s> lol
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#277 [02:34] <Thoatt> gnight peeps
#278 [02:35] <Chr|s> night
#279 [02:35] <Chr|s> thanks Thoatt
#280 [02:35] <Thoatt> np :)
#281 [02:43] <aetherian> is it just me, or do all/nearly all webcomics rely on schadenfreude?
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#283 [02:48] <aetherian> so long!
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#285 [02:50] <aetherian> oh.
#286 [02:51] <aetherian> you're back.
#287 [02:51] <aetherian> so much for my dramatic farewell
#288 [02:51] <Thoatt> Just messing with some scripts
#289 [02:52] <aetherian> >:
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#291 [02:53] <aetherian> vox, eat bread
#292 [02:53] * VoxelHead eats bread
#292 [02:54] <bread> :D
#293 [02:54] <VoxelHead> ;)
#294 [02:54] <bread> ^_^
#295 [02:54] <aetherian> ah, two lovers
#296 [02:54] <bread> :3
#297 [02:54] <Thoatt> O/-<
#298 [02:54] <Thoatt> O|-<
#299 [02:54] <Thoatt> O\-<
#300 [02:54] <Thoatt> vox, dance!
#301 [02:55] <aetherian> haha
#302 [02:55] <Thoatt> >.>
#303 [02:55] <VoxelHead> Silence!
#304 [02:55] <aetherian> heh
#305 [02:55] <aetherian> vox, fire everything at Thoatt
#306 [02:55] * VoxelHead launches some torpedos and fires all phasers
#306 [02:55] * VoxelHead recloaks
#306 [02:56] <aetherian> VoxelHead: warp factor
#307 [02:56] <aetherian> engage
#308 [02:56] <Thoatt> damn permissions... one sec
#309 [02:58] <aetherian> "help me, I can't chat on #Minecrafthelp"
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#311 [02:58] <aetherian> hehehe
#312 [02:58] <VoxelHead> =]
#313 [02:58] <aetherian> heya, bix
#314 [02:58] <TheBix> Hey
#315 [02:58] <TheBix> anyone else got a problem with redstone repeaters?
#316 [02:59] <TheBix> one of mine refused to change state after I loaded my map, killing the flashing lights on my awesome tower
#317 [02:59] <aetherian> um
#318 [03:00] <aetherian> try breaking a couple pieces and put them back
#319 [03:00] <TheBix> ya
#320 [03:00] <TheBix> that fixes it
#321 [03:01] <TheBix> but I don't want to do that every single time
#322 [03:02] <aetherian> well
#323 [03:02] <aetherian> too bad :)
#324 [03:02] <Thoatt> ok baek
#325 [03:02] <Thoatt> let's see if that fixed it
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#328 [03:09] <aetherian> baking what?
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#330 [03:11] <Thoatt> That worked... lol
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#332 [03:15] <Puddles> hey is anyone to help me with my server?
#333 [03:15] <Puddles> anyone at all?
#334 [03:15] <Puddles> need help
#335 [03:15] <Puddles> i messed up
#336 [03:15] <Puddles> plzzz
#337 [03:15] <Puddles> some1
#338 [03:16] <VoxelHead> \o/ some
#339 [03:16] <Puddles> can u help?
#340 [03:16] <Puddles> hello?
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#343 [03:20] <LoRDTrevor> i can help you tommorrow
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#345 [03:24] <Thoatt> someone hl me pl0x :)
#346 [03:25] <Kealper> Thoatt: asdf
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#348 [03:25] <Thoatt> hmmm
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#352 [03:29] <danl> is there a way to temporarily disable spawn protection without manually editing the server.properties and restarting?
#353 [03:30] <Thoatt> danl: make the person an op.
#354 [03:30] <Thoatt> :)
#355 [03:30] <VoxelHead> :o)
#356 [03:30] <Thoatt> wait... nvm lol
#357 [03:30] <danl> that requires a restart ;)
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#359 [03:31] <Thoatt> opping someone? no it doesn't lol... it just won't work..
#360 [03:31] <danl> ah
#361 [03:31] <Thoatt> I forgot that doesn't work in vanilla even for ops
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#367 [03:41] <Thoatt> BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!
#368 [03:41] * Thoatt is bored.
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#369 [03:53] <Kealper> lol
#370 [03:53] <aetherian> VoxelHead: good night
#371 [03:54] * aetherian says goodnight to aubot
#371 [03:54] * Kealper goes to bed too
#371 [03:54] <aetherian> see vox? that's what a kind robot does.
#372 [03:54] <aetherian> .-.
#373 [03:54] <aetherian> don't give me that
#374 [03:55] <aetherian> telling me about it's databases...
#375 [03:55] <aetherian> say, didn't this channel used to be +ntc?
#376 [03:55] <aetherian> now it's +cnt D:
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#378 [04:02] <lilybet> hi
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#380 [04:02] <lilybet> can some one help me please
#381 [04:02] <lilybet> i just bought minecraft and when i try log in i get error message 4?
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#383 [04:03] <lilybet> failed to download windows_natives.jar.lzma
#384 [04:05] <lilybet> anyone?
#385 [04:05] <gr> heh
#386 [04:05] <lilybet> :(
#387 [04:05] <gr> lilybet, I think you and I may have the same problem.
#388 [04:05] <lilybet> oh?
#389 [04:05] <lilybet> also getting error 4?
#390 [04:06] <gr> I joined this channel halfway through your question.
#391 [04:06] <lilybet> ye i get the error in the browser and both .exe
#392 [04:06] <gr> Not exactly the same problem.
#393 [04:06] <gr> I missed some of what you asked here, what are you trying to do?
#394 [04:06] <lilybet> and if you say dont update the screen is just blank
#395 [04:07] <lilybet> im trying to play lol you log in and it says update it downloads then gives error 4
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#397 [04:08] <gr> Okay, and what version of MC do you currently have installed for which the update is failing?
#398 [04:08] <lilybet> err..
#399 [04:08] <gr> Or are you playing in a web browser?
#400 [04:09] <gr> (trying to play, perhaps)
#401 [04:09] <lilybet> like i said i just bought it and tryed through the browser and the 2 exe they said you must download
#402 [04:09] <gr> Okay, so bear with me a moment here:
#403 [04:09] <lilybet> kk
#404 [04:11] <gr> I've been happily using Minecraft Beta 1.3_01 for a couple of weeks now, also paid. For me, playing locally works fine, and connecting to publicly advertised multi-player servers worked fine until roughly 1 hour ago.
#405 [04:11] <gr> About 3 hours ago I started up the server version on a host that I own, and connected to that successfully.
#406 [04:12] <gr> About that same hour ago, I stopped being able to connect to that server unless I told the server not to validate my userid against minecraft.net.
#407 [04:13] <gr> So, I think your problem being unable to download updates and my problem being unable to authenticate userids have the same root cuase.
#408 [04:14] <gr> I'd be surprised if we were alone in this problem, but I'm not in any position to fix it for either of us.
#409 [04:14] <gr> I suppose I could confirm your problem with a Windows system, since I don't have much else to do, at least until someone else speaks up, though. :^>
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#411 [04:16] <gr> Did some of that make sense, lilybet?
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#413 [04:29] <Jonathan_Joestar> Wuts MineCraft?
#414 [04:30] <gr> lilybet, I'm not sure whether you're still watching, but fwiw, I did just successfully download and start the game on a Windows system without the Java error you describe.
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#416 [04:39] <Saber> anyone here
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#420 [04:45] <DjM1zw1z> I need Help!
#421 [04:46] <DjM1zw1z> Hello!?
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#424 [04:56] <tehfran> ohaithar
#425 [04:56] <xales> hi
#426 [04:57] <tehfran> Can anyone recommend me a server?
#427 [04:57] <xales> ??> tehfran smp/servers
#428 [04:57] <VoxelHead> tehfran: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#429 [04:57] <VoxelHead> tehfran: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#430 [04:57] <tehfran> Everything I've tried is either laggy as hell or deserted
#431 [04:57] <tehfran> "recommend"
#432 [04:58] <tehfran> not "give a list of absolutely random servers, most of which don't have a proper rating, even"
#433 [04:59] <xales> you could try smp.shadow-craft.net but that's all I can recommend
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#440 [05:34] <Chr|s> just made some pretty cool waterfalls and a bridge to go across it with a lava fountain in the middle of the lake
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#447 [06:20] <TheBix> so guys
#448 [06:20] <TheBix> I've never seen a spider jocker
#449 [06:20] <TheBix> or a slime
#450 [06:21] <TheBix> and I've been playing since alpha
#451 [06:21] <TheBix> wtf is up with that?
#452 [06:21] <nipper> Slimes only spawn from about 35 and lower as for a jocky its luck that a spider picks up a skeleton.
#453 [06:21] <TheBix> what
#454 [06:22] <TheBix> a spider picks up?
#455 [06:22] <TheBix> how
#456 [06:22] <TheBix> run into?
#457 [06:22] <nipper> Basicly yes
#458 [06:22] <nipper> If a spider and Skeleton run in to each other it will be a jocky But its totaly random like a bug.
#459 [06:22] <TheBix> "When a spider is spawned it has a 1% chance of having a skeleton spawn with it, riding on its back."
#460 [06:22] <TheBix> "You can't spawn jockeys using hacks or mods. It will mostly like spawn only a spider."
#461 [06:23] <TheBix> one of those two statements from the wiki is a lie
#462 [06:29] <AG_Clinton> I saw slimes.
#463 [06:29] <AG_Clinton> They're annoying.
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#468 [06:57] <pierpaf> any helping hands ??
#469 [06:57] <mib_kcubw1> hi all
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#471 [06:57] <mib_kcubw1> just want to know if i can play minecraft fo free on mutli-server pls ?
#472 [06:58] <mib_kcubw1> when i try to log on free multi server i have a message "user not premium", could u help me please ?
#473 [06:58] <pierpaf> mib
#474 [06:58] <pierpaf> did you buy the game?
#475 [06:59] <mib_kcubw1> no that's why i ask
#476 [06:59] <pierpaf> for multiplayer you have to buy it
#477 [06:59] <mib_kcubw1> if i don't buy it i can't play it
#478 [06:59] <mib_kcubw1> ok
#479 [07:00] <mib_kcubw1> If i play in single mode, does the sun works ?
#480 [07:01] <pierpaf> yes mib
#481 [07:01] <mib_kcubw1> ok thank you a lot for ur answers have a nice day
#482 [07:01] <pierpaf> cya
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#486 [07:11] <Mikek> Hi, i can't find a page for seeds on the wiki. Can someone direct me please
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#492 [08:08] <skrafs> Hi minecrafters :) I get loginerror: Can't connect to minecraft.net when I start game. Why would that be? I can log in on website
#493 [08:09] <skrafs> I use this syntax for starting game: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp /usr/share/games/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#494 [08:12] <skrafs> Is this some known error that affect many people, or is it just somewhere in my setup that things are skrewed?
#495 [08:13] <cliff101> is there a fix for server crash?
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#497 [08:28] <skrafs> Guys, found out why.. A gcj java version existed on system as well.. I thought it was enough to remove openjdk.. now it works
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#499 [08:32] <ZerZic> Hi, who can I talk to about wrong in gamepurchase
#500 [08:32] <ZerZic> ?
#501 [08:32] <ZerZic> nope, well...
#502 [08:34] <ZerZic> I created a account with the username ZerZic and bought the game etc. But when I was gonna log in; It said I did not have premium... So I waited a bit, but never got the mpremium, now I have been waiting in 2 weeks... I want to camplain to someone that actually reads Mails and don't just send an automatic mail....
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#504 [08:45] <BarryCarlyon> Slimes are more 16 and lower according to the wiki.
#505 [08:46] <BarryCarlyon> I've onlt seen one.
#506 [08:52] <Snowcat4> is there any good minecraft server hosting companies that you would suggest
#507 [08:53] <pierpaf> snow
#508 [08:53] <pierpaf> allgamer
#509 [08:53] <Snowcat4> for about ~5players
#510 [08:53] <Snowcat4> or 10
#511 [08:53] <pierpaf> snow try allgamer.net
#512 [08:54] <Snowcat4> any other suggestions?
#513 [08:54] <pierpaf> multiplayservers.com
#514 [08:54] <Snowcat4> some say that servercraft.co would be good too
#515 [08:54] <pierpaf> servercraft cost higer
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#518 [08:58] <AG_Clinton> What kind of access do you want?
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#520 [08:59] <MertenNor_> what is the site were I can get the sound clips for the cows and pigs and that ?
#521 [09:00] <SkiingPenguins> .minecraft\resources\newsound\mob\ <--?
#522 [09:01] <MertenNor_> yeah but isent there a online site that host free sound clips that is used in minecraft ?
#523 [09:02] <SkiingPenguins> why download them if you can get them out of a folder already on your hard drive?
#524 [09:03] <MertenNor_> the thing is I am not intrested in the minecraft sounds but the other sounds on that site I just dont remember the name of the site xD
#525 [09:03] <SkiingPenguins> -.-
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#527 [09:05] <ViralNihility> Anyone around at the moment that's familiar with Permissions? I know this isn't the Permissions chat or anything. :P
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#530 [09:21] <sleeptalk> hello
#531 [09:24] <sleeptalk> ?
#532 [09:25] <Morrolan> Sleeptalk: hey
#533 [09:27] <sleeptalk> I have an issue with my save file...
#534 [09:28] <Morrolan> What happened?
#535 [09:28] <sleeptalk> my computer crashed mid game and now the world won't show up in the selection menu
#536 [09:29] <sleeptalk> the save file is still there
#537 [09:29] <Morrolan> Ok. Try to open it in MCEdit and save it again. This MIGHT fix it.
#538 [09:29] <Morrolan> You can get MCEdit from here:
#539 [09:29] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#540 [09:30] <sleeptalk> thanks
#541 [09:30] <sleeptalk> i'll try that
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#544 [09:32] <malteee> Hello!
#545 [09:32] <Morrolan> Hey malteee
#546 [09:33] <malteee> When I want to start Minecraft... Yes... I had a problem
#547 [09:33] <sleeptalk> ah...I'm still running on leopard. can't install mcedit
#548 [09:33] <malteee> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 27.03.11 15:31 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.3_01 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1
#549 [09:33] <Morrolan> Sleeptalk: Oh, that's a shame. :/
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#551 [09:34] <Morrolan> Malteee: What graphics card do you have?
#552 [09:35] <malteee> It is a LapTop with NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS
#553 [09:36] <LoRDTrevor> do you have the latest drivers?
#554 [09:37] <malteee> I dont now...
#555 [09:37] <LoRDTrevor> then propably not
#556 [09:37] <LoRDTrevor> im not at my computer or id find them for you
#557 [09:38] <LoRDTrevor> can you wait a few minutes?
#558 [09:38] <malteee> yes
#559 [09:39] <Morrolan> Malteee: Windows vista?
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#562 [09:42] <Benka> minecraft FTW
#563 [09:42] <malteee> Now, Windows 7
#564 [09:42] <malteee> *No
#565 [09:42] <Morrolan> Malteee: Ok.
#566 [09:42] <Morrolan> 32 Bit I assume?
#567 [09:42] <Benka> Join my minecraft Beta server Ip wasd.dk
#568 [09:42] <Morrolan> Benka: Nope.
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#570 [09:43] <LoRDTrevor> benka : i will
#571 [09:43] <Ianman> hi everyone
#572 [09:43] <LoRDTrevor> im only an op on five servers anyway :O
#573 [09:43] <Morrolan> hey Ianman
#574 [09:44] <Benka> okii
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#576 [09:44] <Ianman> I am having trouble connecting to minecraft.net via a browser....site just doen't load
#577 [09:44] <malteee> Are you an offical "helper" form Minecraft?
#578 [09:44] <Ianman> strange thing is, it does work for some computers. Anyone else have that?
#579 [09:44] <Benka> Se you layter
#580 [09:44] <LoRDTrevor> your browser is firefox Ianman
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#582 [09:44] <Ianman> yes
#583 [09:44] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: I have tried different browsers
#584 [09:44] <Ianman> removed history, cache etc
#585 [09:45] <Ianman> nothing helps :(
#586 [09:45] <LoRDTrevor> the site goes down a lot
#587 [09:45] <Morrolan> Malteee: Nah, none of us are.
#588 [09:45] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: ok but at the moment I can connect on one computer, another computer fails
#589 [09:45] <malteee> That means, that everyone can visit this Chat and Help!?
#590 [09:45] <malteee> Oh, thats funny and great
#591 [09:45] <LoRDTrevor> we0ird
#592 [09:46] <Morrolan> Malteee: Exactly.
#593 [09:46] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: yep...the annoying thing is, the comptuer I want to use as a server cannot connect, so players can't connect
#594 [09:46] <malteee> I'm away for a few minutes
#595 [09:46] <Morrolan> Malteee: Back to topic: Do you have a 32 or 64 bit operating system?
#596 [09:46] <Morrolan> Ok
#597 [09:46] <malteee> 32-Bt
#598 [09:46] <malteee> afk
#599 [09:46] <LoRDTrevor> is your server going to be private or public Ianman?
#600 [09:46] <pierpaf> ihavea agserver anyagstaff on??
#601 [09:47] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: private first...just to try it out
#602 [09:47] <Morrolan> Pierpaf: Euh, what?
#603 [09:47] <pierpaf> sorry mys pace bar is broken
#604 [09:47] <Morrolan> Oh, ok. Lemme try to decipher this then. :D
#605 [09:47] <pierpaf> i have a ag server and need support
#606 [09:47] <LoRDTrevor> set offline-mode=true
#607 [09:47] <pierpaf> having trouble with ranks
#608 [09:47] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: ok. so if you play "online" player authentication is done on minecraft.net ?
#609 [09:48] <LoRDTrevor> yes
#610 [09:48] <LoRDTrevor> wait i meant set it false
#611 [09:48] * LoRDTrevor facepalm
#611 [09:48] <Morrolan> Pierpaf: What sort of ranks do you want? If it's more than admin/normal player you'll need a mod and a plugin
#612 [09:48] <Ianman> LoRDTrevor: yeah I understood :)
#613 [09:48] <pierpaf> i have hmod with dalarank
#614 [09:48] <pierpaf> i haveset ranks
#615 [09:49] <pierpaf> but everytime i log on im default rank
#616 [09:49] <Morrolan> Pierpank: i have absolutely no experience with that, sorry.
#617 [09:49] <Morrolan> Actually, why are you using Hmod? Is it still supported?
#618 [09:49] <pierpaf> oh ok thaks
#619 [09:49] <pierpaf> myusers want me to use hmod
#620 [09:50] <pierpaf> but i think im gonna gowith bukkit
#621 [09:50] <LoRDTrevor> hey what was that server i said id come check out?
#622 [09:50] <malteee> back
#623 [09:50] <pierpaf> hmod is dying
#624 [09:50] <Morrolan> LoRDTrevor: Scroll up a bit. ;)
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#626 [09:50] <Morrolan> <Benka> Join my minecraft Beta server Ip wasd.dk
#627 [09:50] <Morrolan> Malteee: Ok then.
#628 [09:50] <LoRDTrevor> Morrolan: i cannot i am on a phone and it does not scroll back much
#629 [09:51] <Morrolan> LordTrevor: i reposted it a second ago. :)
#630 [09:51] <pierpaf> anyway shouldi be using hmod or bukkit?
#631 [09:52] <Morrolan> Malteee: Let's find out which video driver you have at the moment. Open the start menu and type in "dxdiag". (Without the ""). Then hit enter.
#632 [09:52] <LoRDTrevor> i cannt see further than 30 lines
#633 [09:52] <Morrolan> pierpaf: I prefer bukkit, it's your choice though.
#634 [09:52] <LoRDTrevor> i counted
#635 [09:52] <Morrolan> <Benka> Join my minecraft Beta server Ip wasd.dk
#636 [09:52] <Morrolan> That's the one I guess.
#637 [09:52] <LoRDTrevor> yeah
#638 [09:52] <LoRDTrevor> ty
#639 [09:52] <Morrolan> Malteee: Then switch to the "Display" tab on top.
#640 [09:53] <Morrolan> Then there should be a little box to the right, with some infos, of which one is the version of your current video driver.
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#642 [09:59] <malteee> sorry, but I must to restart my computer
#643 [10:00] <Morrolan> Cya later then.
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#647 [10:06] <malteee> sooo
#648 [10:06] <malteee> there am i
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#650 [10:08] <malteee> Minecraft is tunnning norw!
#651 [10:08] <malteee> *now
#652 [10:08] <malteee> Thanks for your help
#653 [10:08] <malteee> bye
#654 [10:08] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#655 [10:08] <Morrolan> Was it the driver then?
#656 [10:08] <Morrolan> Ah, nvm
#657 [10:10] <ViralNihility> Anyone familiar with Permissions? :3
#658 [10:10] <Morrolan> Viral: Might want to ask on #permissions
#659 [10:11] <Morrolan> If they're not asleep, that is. ^^
#660 [10:11] <ViralNihility> Yeah, I figured as much already. It's a shame they're all idle.
#661 [10:11] <ViralNihility> lol
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#665 [10:16] <cnark> hi
#666 [10:16] <BarryCarlyon> hi
#667 [10:16] <cnark> i got a problem with my world...
#668 [10:17] <cnark> my pc shut down 2 minutes ago and now my save is not shown
#669 [10:17] <cnark> although it is in the folder
#670 [10:17] <cnark> can anyone help me?
#671 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Try using a map editor like MCedit
#672 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Load it up in that, then resave it using the map editor
#673 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
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#675 [10:21] <cnark> shall i get satisfaction?
#676 [10:21] <cnark> cause he tells me to do that
#677 [10:21] <cnark> and completely clsoe mc
#678 [10:23] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: That question might be worth an entry in the FAQ, already answered it an hour ago or so.
#679 [10:25] <cnark> thx a lot, it worked!
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#683 [10:30] <cnark> sorry for asking another question, but now my whole inventory is gone...
#684 [10:30] <cnark> i made a backup of the original
#685 [10:30] <cnark> is it possible to bring it back?
#686 [10:30] <cnark> and my respawn is at another place
#687 [10:31] <cnark> i changed nothing in the editor
#688 [10:31] <cnark> just went in ctrl+s to save it and quit
#689 [10:32] <cnark> and i can't see any wheather
#690 [10:32] <cnark> like sun, moon clouds or stars
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#692 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Erm, huh?
#693 [10:33] <cnark> well i jsut did what u said
#694 [10:33] <cnark> close mc
#695 [10:33] <cnark> open the ediotr
#696 [10:33] <cnark> save
#697 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#698 [10:33] <cnark> open minecraft aagin and save was there
#699 [10:34] <cnark> when i use it i appear in stone and die
#700 [10:34] <cnark> that's not the real problem
#701 [10:34] <cnark> just before diing my whole inventory is gone and the respawn is at another place
#702 [10:34] <cnark> and i can't see any wheater like sun moon clouds or stars like said
#703 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> When the computer turns off unexpectedly, it kinda corrupts the map. Resaving it via MCedit 'fixes' some of the corruption.
#704 [10:35] <cnark> so my inventory is 100% gone
#705 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> You can, via MCEdit, change the spawn point.. and using an inventory editor, you can give yourself whatever you lost
#706 [10:35] <cnark> and what about the respawn and the wheather thing?
#707 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> The original inventory, is most likely lost
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#709 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> The weather thing? I'm not sure what the problem is with that
#710 [10:38] <[z]> If you have the backup.. The spawn/inventory is stored in a different file to the world.. Try renaming the level.dat in the current version and replacing it with the one from the backup.
#711 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Usually the level.dat is the one that gets corrupted
#712 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> So I'm not sure you can recover it from that
#713 [10:38] <cnark> okay
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#715 [10:39] <cnark> i'll try the thing z was saying
#716 [10:39] <[z]> Or if that fails there should be a level.dat_old in the backup which you can try as well
#717 [10:39] <cnark> i got that
#718 [10:39] <cnark> shall i rename that in level.dat and replace it with the other?
#719 [10:40] <[z]> um..
#720 [10:40] <[z]> in the working version you did with mcedit.. rename level.dat to level.datx or something, and copy the level.dat from the backup into that folder
#721 [10:41] <[z]> Then if that doesn't work, delete the level.dat you just copied, and copy the level.dat_old into there, renaming it to level.dat instead
#722 [10:41] <cnark> yeah i did it
#723 [10:41] <cnark> inventory is still gone
#724 [10:41] <cnark> and wheather still corrupted
#725 [10:41] <cnark> but i'm at the right place
#726 [10:42] <cnark> spawn point is another as well
#727 [10:45] <[z]> I think you can set spawn point in mcedit
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#730 [10:48] <cnark> okay
#731 [10:48] <cnark> and how can i give me back my inventory in mc edit?
#732 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Can't. Need another program
#733 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Try InvEdit
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#735 [10:49] <Feilexter> like i mean there's liek over 1million purchase right? so he's like loaded in like 20million euro? can't he hire a full time, full team development team?
#736 [10:50] <Morrolan> If the only reason you came here is for flaming, then get the fuck out please.
#737 [10:51] <Feilexter> no, it's just that my server is full of damn bugs and the minecraft main irc does not work
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#739 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Game's in beta, people buying minecraft know this, It's been clearly stated.
#740 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> It's also in an active development cycle, nowhere near completion
#741 [10:52] <Morrolan> Additionally they do have a full time development team. ;)
#742 [10:53] <Morrolan> Anyway, what do you mean with "Maincraft main irc"?
#743 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Not registered with nick
#744 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> I think
#745 [10:53] <Feilexter> the channel minecraft , i cant post anything in it..
#746 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, register your nick
#747 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#748 [10:53] <Feilexter> wait, has this game not been out for like 5 years or something?
#749 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Hah, right
#750 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Try barely over a year
#751 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft
#752 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> The game is currently in development and Beta is the only continuously updated version of the game. Minecraft was developed for about a week before its public release on May 17, 2009 on the TIGSource forums, where it gained a considerable level of popularity. It has been continually updated and patched since then, and while it was still in alpha release, it garnered several hundred
#753 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> thousand sales and received critical notice and acclaim from many reviewers. It passed a million units sold on January 12, 2011,[5][6] less than a month after reaching Beta.
#754 [10:54] <Feilexter> oh.... because i still think it will take a whoel less resource if is coded in c++ or something....
#755 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps, but the creator went with java, because of accessiblity
#756 [10:55] <Feilexter> i support it make it multiple os usable
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#758 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> That was one of his stated goals, to be able to play on any platform (that supported java). To be able to use it via the browser.. on any OS
#759 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Try that with C++
#760 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> If you think you can do a better job, feel free.
#761 [10:55] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: I think a even more important reason was that he was much more familiar with Java.
#762 [10:55] * GreyVulpine nods
#762 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> There's already many people that have ridden on Minecraft's success.
#763 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Go join them
#764 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Make your own clone
#765 [10:56] <Feilexter> GreyVulpine : is just being rude
#766 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a support question?
#767 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Or just here to whine/
#768 [10:57] <Feilexter> so yeah, we brought a few copy and probably will buy more, and why do server firewall affect javaio issue?
#769 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Because it's a server? And that's the definition of what a firewall does?
#770 [10:57] <Feilexter> like pretty much every server is behind firewall but i cant access any of them because of stuff like packet id error and stuff
#771 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Then your firewall isn't configured properly
#772 [10:58] <Feilexter> no, i turn off the firewall of my server and it work great
#773 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> It's still internet traffic, and a firewall does manage that traffic
#774 [10:58] <Feilexter> and like 100k other people have this issue too
#775 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Running zonealarm perhaps?
#776 [10:58] <Feilexter> so most server out there run zonealarm?
#777 [10:59] <Feilexter> on windows?
#778 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> No, it's just the most frequent firewall that has a packet ID problem with minecraft server that we've seen
#779 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm just making an educated guess here
#780 [10:59] <Feilexter> that kick our dedicated server world for like 2k player on it out the door...
#781 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Many firewalls like zonealarm, don't unload their engine even after a user tells it to be disabled
#782 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> That would be a firewall problem then, if you turned it off and it worked fine
#783 [11:00] <Feilexter> yes, on server side, but there are alot of hack if you dont have a firewall, like those ddos attack..
#784 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Then configure your firewall properly.
#785 [11:01] <Feilexter> does not work with zonealarm..... if it's on but disable, it will not work either...
#786 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Right
#787 [11:01] <Feilexter> it has to shut down all the way
#788 [11:01] <Feilexter> oh well, thanks for your help, we will try a physical firewall
#789 [11:01] <Feilexter> like those 20k cisco firewall, lol
#790 [11:02] <Feilexter> when we are ready we will let you guys know
#791 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> We're not affiliated with Mojang at all here, We're just community-run support.
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#793 [11:03] <Feilexter> i mean we could use some help debuging a server with 2k ppl on it, lol
#794 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Ah, g'luck with that.
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#796 [11:09] <litmeuplol> I need some help, whenever i open minecraft it goes to a permanent done loading part of the loading screen.
#797 [11:09] <cnark> k inventory recovery worked
#798 [11:09] <litmeuplol> Any help? D:
#799 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> litmeuplol - What operating system?
#800 [11:09] <litmeuplol> uhhh.
#801 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#802 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Mac?
#803 [11:09] <cnark> so has anyone an idea why the wheather is not working?
#804 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Linux/unix?
#805 [11:09] <litmeuplol> windows
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#807 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#808 [11:09] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#809 [11:09] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#810 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Use those instructions litmeuplol.
#811 [11:09] <mbuurman> Anyone can help me buy minecraft with moneybookers?
#812 [11:10] <oldtopmanserver> ??
#813 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> What's moneybookers?
#814 [11:10] <litmeuplol> whats the win key?
#815 [11:10] <oldtopmanserver> moneybooker - not in vocabluary
#816 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Windows key, lower left, between the ctrl and alt keys
#817 [11:10] <litmeuplol> oh...
#818 [11:10] <mbuurman> A decent payment method unlike paypal :/
#819 [11:10] <oldtopmanserver> litmeuplol The one with the four squares on it
#820 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you send me to their page.. or something
#821 [11:10] <litmeuplol> thanks.
#822 [11:11] <litmeuplol> let me try.
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#824 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope, doesn't look like using moneybookers will get you anywhere
#825 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Can't use it for buying minecraft
#826 [11:12] <cnark> okay now for everyone helped me, thanks a lot, everything working again! :)
#827 [11:13] <mbuurman> Okay Grey, seems I need to find another game then :)
#828 [11:14] <Morrolan> Mbuurman: You could pay with credit card using Paypal if you want.
#829 [11:14] <Morrolan> Or just make yourself a Paypal account. ;)
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#831 [11:20] <litmeuplol> thanks guys.
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#840 [11:58] <Trel> What could cause minecraft (the exe launched with memory limits, 600) to start out good, but after a few get really slow? (closing and reopening fixes it for a few again)
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#842 [11:59] <DjM1zw1z> help
#843 [11:59] <DjM1zw1z> haspaid?lol
#844 [12:00] <Morrolan> Trel: Most likely a memory leak. You'll have to wait for Notch to fix this.
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#846 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> DjM1zw1z - What do you need help with?
#847 [12:01] <DjM1zw1z> My Server
#848 [12:02] <DjM1zw1z> When i run it it wont run, it says the tHE pORT iS iN uSE
#849 [12:02] <DjM1zw1z> The Port is in use*
#850 [12:02] <SkiingPenguins> is there any other java processes running?
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#852 [12:03] <Feilexter> Anyone know why when mod loader give black screen and wont load to menu?
#853 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you didn't follow an instruction when installing modloader
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#855 [12:04] <Feilexter> i dont think there is an instruction when using mod installer, lol?
#856 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> How did you install it then?
#857 [12:05] <Feilexter> plus copy into .jar wont work somehow...
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#859 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Did you remember to delete meta-inf?
#860 [12:05] <Feilexter> yes
#861 [12:05] <Feilexter> all the mod dont work when copy into base of mod using rar
#862 [12:05] <DjM1zw1z> @skiingPenguins No
#863 [12:06] <Feilexter> so i got a mod installer, the only mod installer...
#864 [12:06] <SkiingPenguins> mhmm well thats all i could think of. perhaps try restarting computer or changing port ^.^
#865 [12:06] <Feilexter> do mod even work for multiplayer?
#866 [12:06] <DjM1zw1z> ok
#867 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Feilexter - usually not
#868 [12:09] <Feilexter> i heard if it's on client side , like minimap it will work but not resource kind?
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#871 [12:14] <Niels567> Hey?
#872 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#873 [12:14] <Niels567> How do I know if my server works?
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#878 [12:23] <mib_kmvsz1> hi, i could really use some help
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#880 [12:24] <mib_kmvsz1> hello?
#881 [12:24] <wilma> What is the latest version of MineCraft Beta?
#882 [12:24] <wilma> What is the latest version of MineCraft Beta?
#883 [12:24] <mib_kmvsz1> im not sure, sorry
#884 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Love people who spam then leave
#885 [12:25] <mib_kmvsz1> heh, me too
#886 [12:25] <mib_kmvsz1> anyways, ive beent trying to log in and my password isnt being recognized. i put my email into the password recovery and it said it sent me an email, but i still havent gotten one
#887 [12:25] <mib_kmvsz1> its kinda frustrating, i havent had this problem ever before
#888 [12:26] <mib_kmvsz1> all of a sudden my password stopped working
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#890 [12:26] <mib_kmvsz1> a friend of mine also told me that i was banned from an online server for placing blocks where i wasnt supposed to, so i think my account has been hacked
#891 [12:26] <mib_kmvsz1> any suggestions?
#892 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> You may need to send an email to uh..
#893 [12:26] <mib_kmvsz1> ah, never mind. the email just took a while =P
#894 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#895 [12:27] <mib_kmvsz1> sorry to bother you
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#900 [12:46] <sgiratch> Doesnt the vanilla minecraft server have Nether?
#901 [12:50] <Cial> nope
#902 [12:51] <Cial> the nether is broke in SMP
#903 [12:51] <Cial> or well its there but the portals do not work
#904 [12:52] <sgiratch> hmm
#905 [12:52] <sgiratch> Ive been in the nether in multiplayer. Maybe they had a mad
#906 [12:52] <sgiratch> mod*
#907 [12:52] <sgiratch> Bukkit?
#908 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> The nether does work in SMP.
#909 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> Portals Don't
#910 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> Server admin just has to stop server, switch world to nether and then restart.
#911 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> Everyone is either in normal world, or in nether world.
#912 [12:54] <sgiratch> ah
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#915 [13:02] <sgiratch> Anyone know of a decent pluging for any mod that works great?
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#917 [13:05] <BarryCarlyon> Vanilla for vanilla.
#918 [13:08] <sgiratch> What I meant was that I want portals to work
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#920 [13:09] <BarryCarlyon> Its not possible from a technical standpoint, which is why its not implemented.
#921 [13:09] <sgiratch> oh, okay.
#922 [13:09] <BarryCarlyon> Its like running two worlds at once on the same server. Hell of a Ram/system muncher.
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#927 [13:22] <Rabbit> test
#928 [13:23] <Rabbit> Jemand ad?
#929 [13:23] <Morrolan> Yea.
#930 [13:24] <Rabbit> Darf ich euch eine kurze technische Frage über Bukkit und Permissions stellen?
#931 [13:24] <Morrolan> Naja, dafür gäbs ja eigentlich #bukkit und #permissions, aber fragen kannst du schon. ;)
#932 [13:26] <Rabbit> Warscheinlich ists ganz einfach: Ich möchte einfach einer default gruppe auf einem Server jegliches bauen und abbauen verbieten, aber die möglichkeit offen lassen kleinere Baubereiche bestimmten Spielern zu erlauben
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#934 [13:26] <Rabbit> ich benutze permission und worldguard... Problem ist irgendwie
#935 [13:26] <Rabbit> Das ich zwar mit worldguard einzelne bereiche erlauben kann.. permission aber trotzdem weiterhin verbietet
#936 [13:28] <Morrolan> Also soll diese default Gruppe nur in kleinen Gebieten bauen dürfen? Hab ich das richtig verstanden?
#937 [13:28] <Rabbit> genau
#938 [13:28] <Rabbit> die ich am liebsten mit /region regionname Spieler ... ingame festlegen würde
#939 [13:29] <Rabbit> Regionen festlegen funktioniert über die Holzaxt ja schon
#940 [13:29] <Morrolan> Oh, das könnte schwierig werden. Denn man kann Permissions nicht sagen dass es in bestimmten WorldGuard Regionen den Spielern nicht verbieten soll zu bauen, und in anderen schon. :/
#941 [13:29] <Morrolan> Beziehungsweise da wo keine Region ist schon.
#942 [13:30] <Rabbit> Aber wie machen die das auf anderen Servern
#943 [13:30] <Rabbit> Das würde doch bedeuten ich muss eine unendlich große Fläche erstmal manuell protecten
#944 [13:30] <Rabbit> und dann einzelne erlauben.. das ist doch zu viel Arbeit :D
#945 [13:30] <Morrolan> Naja, entweder benutzen sie ein anderes Gruppen plugin das das unterstützt (ka obs eines gibt), oder sie benutzen WorldGuard um zuerst eine riesige Fläche zu schützen. :/
#946 [13:31] <Rabbit> ahrg... :D
#947 [13:31] <Morrolan> Sorry, kann dir wirklich nur raten in #permissions nachzufragen, vielleicht haben die ne Idee.
#948 [13:31] <Rabbit> Okay cool :D.. Trotzdem Danke
#949 [13:31] <Morrolan> Viel Glück. :)
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#954 [13:36] <Guest27905> anyone ?
#955 [13:36] <Guest27905> can anyone help me ?
#956 [13:36] <Morrolan> Guest: Just ask.
#957 [13:36] <Morrolan> We'll see if we can help you then. :)
#958 [13:37] <Guest27905> Ok , so i donwloaded the Minecraft servver.exe , and am trying to setup a server to play with a friend
#959 [13:37] <Guest27905> but he cant connect
#960 [13:37] <Morrolan> Did you forward the port?
#961 [13:37] <Guest27905> how do i do that ?
#962 [13:37] <Morrolan> Oh, and beforehand, you did give him your EXTERNAL IP?
#963 [13:37] <Guest27905> I gave him my ip
#964 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> What IP?
#965 [13:38] <Morrolan> From where did you get that IP?
#966 [13:38] <Guest27905> on "http://www.canyouseeme.org/"
#967 [13:38] <Guest27905> it shows my ip
#968 [13:38] <Morrolan> Yep, that's correct.
#969 [13:38] <Guest27905> what am i doing wrong then ?!
#970 [13:39] <Guest27905> I have the server running , and i can connect to it , but he cant
#971 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Haven't port forwarded in your router then
#972 [13:39] <Morrolan> Yea, you'll need to forward the ports then. GreyVulpine: Could you take over?
#973 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#974 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Guest27905 - What operating system are you running on?
#975 [13:40] <Morrolan> Thanks, my knowledge in this topic is rather limited. :)
#976 [13:40] <Guest27905> Windows 7
#977 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay, press your windows+R key to bring up your run command
#978 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Type in: cmd
#979 [13:40] <Guest27905> done
#980 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Then, press enter, at the black command prompt, type : ipconfig
#981 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Give me your ipv4 address, as well as the default gateway
#982 [13:41] <Guest27905> 5.193.219.70
#983 [13:41] <Guest27905> 5.0.0.1
#984 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> That's a hamachi adapter.. do you have any other ones?
#985 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking something that begins with 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.y
#986 [13:42] <Guest27905> hum ?
#987 [13:42] <Guest27905> lol
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#989 [13:43] <Guest27905> got another
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#991 [13:43] <Guest27905> 213.190.200.51
#992 [13:43] <fredricko> i just bought mincraft
#993 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Is that in ipconfig?
#994 [13:44] <fredricko> but i cant connect to anything?
#995 [13:44] <Guest27905> gateway is the same but no 5
#996 [13:44] <Guest27905> yup , ipconfig
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#998 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm, you're connected directly to your modem then?
#999 [13:44] <Guest27905> nop
#1000 [13:44] <Rabbit> :D
#1001 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then it's windows firewall.
#1002 [13:44] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1003 [13:44] <Morrolan> Fredricko: Make sure that your firewall is not blocking the game.
#1004 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Close that command prompt, go to your start menu
#1005 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Type in the search bar: firewall.cpl
#1006 [13:45] <Guest27905> i have a sitecom router
#1007 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Shut off the windows firewall
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#1009 [13:45] <TheNytangel> !server
#1010 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> ??> fredricko smp/servers
#1011 [13:45] <VoxelHead> fredricko: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1012 [13:45] <VoxelHead> fredricko: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1014 [13:46] <Guest27905> ok
#1015 [13:46] <Guest27905> firewall is disconnected
#1016 [13:46] <Rabbit> Ahrg.. Permission meldet sich keiner :D
#1017 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Now, try to see if he can't connect
#1018 [13:46] <Guest27905> same ip ?
#1019 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> same ip
#1020 [13:47] <boredtechie> Hi, I'm new to minecraft and just looking for a small clan guild to play with. What's the best place to find one, I've seen various different server lists but it's a clan / guild list I'm after.
#1021 [13:48] <Morrolan> Boredtechie: There is no clan/guid list afaik.
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#1023 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> That's not really the point of this channel boredtechie. There's also no clan/guide list
#1024 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Try the forums
#1025 [13:48] <Morrolan> You could try to look in the server section on the forums though.
#1026 [13:48] <boredtechie> Thanks for the help
#1027 [13:50] <Niels567> I need help!
#1028 [13:51] <Morrolan> Niels: Yes?
#1029 [13:52] <LoRDTrevor> cant help you if you dont tell us the question
#1030 [13:52] <Niels567> Setting up my server, I can't seem to forward my ports right.
#1031 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Can you walk us through your port forwarding? Give us some screenshots?
#1032 [13:52] <LoRDTrevor> theres a website for that
#1033 [13:52] <LoRDTrevor> let me go find it
#1034 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> portforward.com, yes
#1035 [13:53] <LoRDTrevor> then whats the problem
#1036 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Hang on.
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#1038 [13:55] <Kamachi> Hi! i have a problem with running an own minecraft server, i need some help! First of all when im joining my server im just falling down and after some time i land and hurt myself. After that it's lagging as hell. And i dont have so bad computer and my internet speed are great. how do i fix this ?
#1039 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting this at home?
#1040 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Running it on the same machine as the one you've got the client running as well?
#1041 [13:56] <LoRDTrevor> Kamachi: upgrade. Next question.
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#1043 [13:57] <bud> any news on 1.4? :)
#1044 [13:57] <Kamachi> im running it at home. and yes. i've playing and hosting on the same computer
#1045 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> 1.4 will be released this week.
#1046 [13:57] <Morrolan> Bud: Nope. Will be released the next week most likely.
#1047 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> What day exactly, we don't know
#1048 [13:58] <bud> awesome :) I can't wait...
#1049 [13:58] <Kamachi> okay guess i'll w8 then
#1050 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Kamachi - Computer's specs?
#1051 [13:59] <Rabbit> Hor geil.. der highlighted ja reihen bei mouseover über namen :D
#1052 [14:05] <Kamachi> (CPU 1) AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (1024KB L2 Cache, Socket AM2) @ 2611MHz (200MHz FSB)
#1053 [14:06] <Kamachi> (Video controller 1) NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 (Processor: GeForce GT 430), 1GB, 1440x900x32, 59Hz, driver version: 8.17.12.6099
#1054 [14:06] <Kamachi> (RAM module 1) 1GB, form factor: DIMM (RAM module 2) 1GB, form factor: DIMM (RAM module 3) 1GB, form factor: DIMM (RAM module 4) 1GB, form factor: DIMM
#1055 [14:09] <aetherian> ow
#1056 [14:09] <VoxelHead> Awww
#1057 [14:09] * VoxelHead rubs aetherian better.
#1057 [14:10] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead
#1058 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Hai!
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#1060 [14:10] <skippydippy> who was helping me earlier ?
#1061 [14:11] <skippydippy> i was guest...
#1062 [14:11] <skippydippy> GreyVulpine
#1063 [14:11] <skippydippy> are u there ?
#1064 [14:11] <Kamachi> GreyVulpine is that good enough?
#1065 [14:12] <skippydippy> After i made my server , my friend seems to connect for a second or 2
#1066 [14:13] <skippydippy> and then i stay with no internet conection at all
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#1068 [14:15] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#1069 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? Sorry, I"m here.
#1070 [14:16] <TheNytangel> did you still want to redstone wire my double doors with 2 switches? :)
#1071 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> .... where?
#1072 [14:16] <TheNytangel> my server..
#1073 [14:16] <TheNytangel> last time it was someone elses server, but i want to learn how to do it
#1074 [14:16] <Morrolan> Skippydippy: Your isse sounds familiar, I think I've once seen a forum thread with people whose internet got killed by minecraft.
#1075 [14:17] <Morrolan> I'll try to find it.
#1076 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Sec.. I need to catch up
#1077 [14:17] <Morrolan> Skippydippy: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22637
#1078 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Kamachi - Could you try turning off monsters via server.properties, and see if it'll help? Also, do you have any firewalls or security software?
#1079 [14:18] <skippydippy> can u help me greyvulpine ?
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#1081 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1082 [14:20] * GreyVulpine pokes Morrolan, next time he connects.. there's getsatisfaction threads on it
#1082 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#1083 [14:20] <Kamachi> yes i have Avast and the windows firewall. will try to turn off the monsters
#1084 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#1085 [14:20] <Kamachi> GreyVulpine
#1086 [14:20] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Oh....
#1087 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Kamachi - And you've turned off or set the firewalls to let in minecraft traffic?
#1088 [14:22] <Morrolan> Well, good to know that a 9 months old forum post isn't the only source on this issue. ^^
#1089 [14:22] <Morrolan> Not that good to see that it hasn't been fixed since then though. :/
#1090 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, unfortunately.
#1091 [14:23] <Kamachi> GreyVulpine i've turned off the monsters and that made it work better!
#1092 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, animals unfortunately, does put more load on the server for some computers.. and some can't handle it.
#1093 [14:25] <Kamachi> okok :/
#1094 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> I don't know why, but perhaps it'll be fixed later
#1095 [14:26] <Kamachi> i hope so. thanx for the help anyway :D
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#1097 [14:28] <DeliciousPig> Is there anyone in here who can help me with a minecraft driver error on ubuntu 10.10?
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#1099 [14:30] <TheNytangel> ready yet GreyVulpine?
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#1102 [14:33] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine?
#1103 [14:34] <VoxelHead> green
#1104 [14:34] <VoxelHead> No! Blue!
#1105 [14:34] <TheNytangel> yellow..
#1106 [14:36] <sgiratch> im a little girl
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#1109 [14:38] <B3A5TY> hi
#1110 [14:38] <TheNytangel> hi
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#1112 [14:42] <Karsten> any one here can help me
#1113 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1114 [14:42] <TheNytangel> :o
#1115 [14:42] <Morrolan> Karsten: What do you need?
#1116 [14:42] <TheNytangel> your alive
#1117 [14:42] <VoxelHead> Well shut me up.
#1118 [14:42] <Karsten> how can i download minecraft free¨
#1119 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Um, sorry, little busy with moderating weekend_of_minecraft
#1120 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of youtube videos on redstonning double doors.
#1121 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Karsten - You can't.
#1122 [14:43] <TheNytangel> but i dont want to go to youtube
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#1124 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Need to pay for the beta version of minecraft
#1125 [14:43] <TheNytangel> it always stops my internet
#1126 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, um
#1127 [14:45] <Morrolan> Nytangel:http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=27519
#1128 [14:45] <Morrolan> Took me two seconds of googling. ;)
#1129 [14:45] <TheNytangel> good for you..
#1130 [14:46] <Morrolan> Or, with some screenshots: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/d70mt/simple_automatic_doubledoor_wiring/
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#1133 [14:51] <Karsten> why can alot of players play free but no me
#1134 [14:51] <Morrolan> Karsten: Minecraft classic is free, Minecraft Beta is not.
#1135 [14:51] <Karsten> thx
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#1145 [15:31] <Model192> AkiTensai what does your name mean
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#1148 [15:52] <xolotl> ha, nice, my little server got griefed last night
#1149 [15:52] <xolotl> Guess it's time for a whitelist. :)
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#1151 [15:53] <Humphrey1989> Can anyone explain to me why none OP's (users) are unable to build in my minecraft server?
#1152 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> They're near spawn?
#1153 [15:55] <Humphrey1989> not that I know of.
#1154 [15:57] <Humphrey1989> they went out a few hundred steps and still not able to
#1155 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Running any mods?
#1156 [15:58] <Humphrey1989> yes
#1157 [15:58] <Humphrey1989> but never
#1158 [15:58] <Humphrey1989> mind
#1159 [15:58] <Humphrey1989> i got it
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#1162 [16:04] <panitaliemom> Hey can i have some help ? ;)
#1163 [16:06] <panitaliemom> Hey can i have some help i had the same problem yesterday . But i got the help and comed in one time but now it's the same thing . "Bad Login" I think maybe its
#1164 [16:06] <panitaliemom> Java
#1165 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Bad login? When do you get this?
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#1167 [16:08] <panitaliemom> When iam trying to join my friends server
#1168 [16:08] <panitaliemom> It's lost connection and "Bad Login"
#1169 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, and you paid for minecraft?
#1170 [16:08] <panitaliemom> Yepp
#1171 [16:09] <panitaliemom> I bought it yesterday
#1172 [16:09] <panitaliemom> A admin helped me and we fixed it i could join server and everything but now it's the same problem again..
#1173 [16:09] <panitaliemom> We did the Teamviewer but iam swedish and he understood that so^^
#1174 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try a reinstall of minecraft?
#1175 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#1176 [16:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1177 [16:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1178 [16:10] <panitaliemom> Okey thank u !
#1179 [16:10] <panitaliemom> I be back if it dosent works
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#1181 [16:14] <panitaliemom> It worked!
#1182 [16:14] <panitaliemom> thank u guys!
#1183 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
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#1185 [16:14] <Ranger9000> 0_0 so many people
#1186 [16:14] <Ranger9000> I need some help
#1187 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1188 [16:15] <Ranger9000> Has anyone had problems changing their in game skins
#1189 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope.
#1190 [16:15] <Ranger9000> I get this error code that tells me it can't save it
#1191 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> The previewer on minecraft.net is down, has been for months, but it still uploads fine, even through there's no confirmation message
#1192 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#1193 [16:15] <Ranger9000> Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/ranger9000.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:15:26 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#1194 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you're using minecraftskins.com
#1195 [16:15] <Ranger9000> yes
#1196 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't use that site to directly upload your skin. Download it from that site, and use minecraft.net to upload it
#1197 [16:16] <Ranger9000> ok
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#1199 [16:16] <Azu> I'm having a strange bug and I can't tell if it's serverside or clientside.
#1200 [16:17] <Azu> I don't think it's on the "Known bugs" page on the wiki.
#1201 [16:17] <xales> What bug?
#1202 [16:17] <Azu> I can't place blocks on a certain face of a large line of blocks
#1203 [16:17] <Azu> the west-facing face, I think?
#1204 [16:18] <Ranger9000> K thanks guys its workign now
#1205 [16:18] <Ranger9000> off I go
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#1207 [16:18] <Azu> the line of said faces being where coordinates hit z=999.00000
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#1209 [16:18] <xales> ??> Azu 1k
#1210 [16:18] <VoxelHead> Azu: (1k) There is a bug you will encounter if you're building suspended structures that crosses the X or Z +/- 1000 coordinate- blocks will refuse to be placed as though the area is already occupied.
#1211 [16:19] <VoxelHead> Azu: (1k) To work around this, you unfortunately must build up from ground level. You can place blocks on top of other blocks at the 1000 'barrier'; just not (only) horizontally next to blocks. (This may need rewording to make more clear)
#1212 [16:19] <Azu> ....
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#1214 [16:20] <Azu> ridiculous
#1215 [16:20] <Azu> why a thousand, anyway
#1216 [16:20] <xales> it's just a bug of some sort
#1217 [16:20] <Azu> that's not a multiple of 16 or anything
#1218 [16:20] <xales> it will probably be fixed eventually
#1219 [16:20] <Azu> well yes but why is it a bug
#1220 [16:20] <Azu> what's the bug
#1221 [16:20] <Azu> what's the code-based reasoning
#1222 [16:20] <xales> how should I know?
#1223 [16:20] <Azu> I'm not asking you
#1224 [16:21] <xales> and what difference does it make? It's still a bug
#1225 [16:21] <Azu> semi-rhetorical
#1226 [16:21] <Azu> because it's interesting
#1227 [16:21] <Azu> as in, "gosh, that sounds odd, I wonder why that happens"
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#1229 [16:24] <geraldbrent> Question: Where does minecraft store the smoke particles?
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#1231 [16:26] <Azu> in particles.png
#1232 [16:26] <Azu> which by default is in minecraft.jar
#1233 [16:26] <geraldbrent> ok
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#1235 [16:28] <Jackson413> hey dudes
#1236 [16:28] <Jackson413> tell me if this helps your server
#1237 [16:28] <Jackson413> in terms of increasing ram
#1238 [16:28] <Jackson413> this guy put a flashdrive into his pc, and used readyboost
#1239 [16:29] <AG_Scott> flash drives via USB 2.0 are slow.
#1240 [16:29] <Jackson413> so am i right to say "that ain't doing jackshit"
#1241 [16:30] <Jackson413> would he be better off not using it?
#1242 [16:30] <AG_Scott> You're better off just getting more RAM
#1243 [16:30] <AG_Scott> it's not like it's expensive now days
#1244 [16:30] <Jackson413> yeah i know
#1245 [16:30] <Jackson413> thats what im telling him
#1246 [16:30] <Jackson413> is the flash drive actually decreasing performance?
#1247 [16:31] <Jackson413> or does it help anything?
#1248 [16:32] <AG_Scott> It wouldn't decrease it but I don't think it would help either.
#1249 [16:34] <BarryCarlyon> Readyboost ain't all the quick.
#1250 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> that*
#1251 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> Windows has to spend more time thinking about it how to use it, rather than just using it
#1252 [16:35] <BarryCarlyon> Its like saying half your hard drive is in america and the other half is in the UK.
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#1254 [16:47] <TheNytangel> when i try to connect to my server, it says "Internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 200"
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#1258 [17:02] <AkiTensai> Model192: Aki is a common name. Tensai can mean natural disaster or genius, and apparently reprint as well. /shrug
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#1262 [17:14] <NekoMaO> hello
#1263 [17:15] <NekoMaO> i have something i wanted to ask
#1264 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Just ask.
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#1267 [17:16] <NekoMaO> i just purchased the game yesterday, and i'm not happy with the game, is there anyway to get the money back and cancel the purchase
#1268 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes, send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1269 [17:16] <NekoMaO> thank you.
#1270 [17:18] <Thoatt> sup homies
#1271 [17:18] <JoeIsPro> Quick question for you guys. You know how to fix the lwjgl.jar error?
#1272 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> What lwjgl.jar error?
#1273 [17:18] <lukegb> NekoMaO: or just do a chargeback
#1274 [17:19] <Thoatt> GreyVulpine: It's a game library jar
#1275 [17:19] <lukegb> NekoMaO: you'll probably get a better response if you just do a chargeback
#1276 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> I mean, specifically, what error concerning it?
#1277 [17:19] <JoeIsPro> Just bought the game, downloaded it and when i update it it says "Fatal error occured (4): failed to download lwjgl.jar Retrieving: lwjgl.jar 25%
#1278 [17:19] <Thoatt> Not minecraft.. lol
#1279 [17:19] <Thoatt> wait... what? lol
#1280 [17:19] <Thoatt> OH
#1281 [17:19] <Thoatt> herp.
#1282 [17:19] * GreyVulpine kicks Thoatt
#1282 [17:19] <Thoatt> Have you tried restarting the client?
#1283 [17:19] <VoxelHead> I can't tell you that.
#1284 [17:19] <lukegb> VoxelHead: ...
#1285 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#1286 [17:20] <VoxelHead> nnk
#1287 [17:20] <lukegb> Damn DopeGhotibot
#1288 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> JoeIsPro - Make sure you're not running a firewall that's blocking amazon's cloud
#1289 [17:20] <Thoatt> brb dinner
#1290 [17:20] <JoeIsPro> I looked for it in AVG and stuff, couldn't find anything.
#1291 [17:21] <Thoatt> Do you have windows firewall enabled?
#1292 [17:21] <JoeIsPro> And I tried turning off the Fire Wall altogether
#1293 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> You running AVG security suite?
#1294 [17:21] <JoeIsPro> and no, i don't.
#1295 [17:21] <JoeIsPro> AVG Internet Security 2011
#1296 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> And there's no other firewall software installed besides AVG?
#1297 [17:21] <JoeIsPro> Nope
#1298 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Would you be willing, as a test, uninstall AVG?
#1299 [17:23] <JoeIsPro> Ummm. Lol. Maybe.
#1300 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Some firewall programs don't unload completely, when the user tells it to be disabled
#1301 [17:23] <lukegb> Hmm
#1302 [17:23] <JoeIsPro> I have terrible internet takes me a good 4 hours to download
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#1304 [17:24] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: err
#1305 [17:24] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: download http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/minecraft.jar manually
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#1307 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> lwjgl, not minecraft.jar
#1308 [17:24] <lukegb> damn, wrong link
#1309 [17:24] <lukegb> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/lwjgl.jar
#1310 [17:24] <Dark_Fox> How do I create a texture pack so I can load/unload it with the "Mod and Texture Pack" button in-game? Like, is there a specific file hierarchy I need to follow?
#1311 [17:24] <lukegb> that link, use a webbrowser to grab it.
#1312 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes Dark_Fox, it follows the minecraft.jar structure
#1313 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> in your .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1314 [17:25] <JoeIsPro> Running FireFox, do i save it or run it? or?
#1315 [17:26] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: save.
#1316 [17:26] <Dark_Fox> Alright, so I just name a directory like "Garbage" then keep the minecraft.jar filestructure within the "Garbage" directory within the "texturepacks" directory?
#1317 [17:26] <JoeIsPro> I'm normally not this simple but I don't want to screw it up lol.
#1318 [17:26] <JoeIsPro> Thanks
#1319 [17:26] <lukegb> Dark_Fox: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Pack
#1320 [17:26] <Dark_Fox> lukegb: Sweet, thanks
#1321 [17:27] <lukegb> Dark_Fox: just zip up the files you changed, and put the zip in the 'open folder' folder
#1322 [17:27] <Dark_Fox> Thanks a bunch guys
#1323 [17:27] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: lemme know if that downloads okay.
#1324 [17:27] <JoeIsPro> Yep, I donwnloaded it and it still stops at 25% It tries downloading it 3 times and failes on the 3rd
#1325 [17:27] <JoeIsPro> fails*
#1326 [17:28] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: what, in Firefox?
#1327 [17:28] <JoeIsPro> No, no, that download went through in like 2 seconds
#1328 [17:28] <lukegb> Hmm.
#1329 [17:28] <JoeIsPro> Lol, was there something specifically I had to do after i saved that?
#1330 [17:28] <lukegb> JoeIsPro: no, that was just a connection test.
#1331 [17:28] <JoeIsPro> Right now that .jar file is just in my downloads
#1332 [17:28] <JoeIsPro> Ohh ok
#1333 [17:29] <lukegb> With the actual file you're trying and failing to download.
#1334 [17:29] <lukegb> It sounds remarkably like your firewall
#1335 [17:29] <JoeIsPro> Man.. Ok. If it helps any from the beginning I download minecraft from the download page, login, update it, and it stops there
#1336 [17:29] <JoeIsPro> I've tried both of their download options too
#1337 [17:30] <lukegb> I'd help you, but I'm not at my PC right now...
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#1339 [17:30] <JoeIsPro> Lol, ok. it's cool. If I don't get it to work i'll be back later.
#1340 [17:31] <JoeIsPro> Thanks for the help guys.
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#1342 [17:31] <aetherian> back
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#1346 [17:38] <NekoMaO> lukegb : i don't think charge back is a good way
#1347 [17:39] <lukegb> NekoMaO: mm, give them a chance first, to be fair
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#1349 [17:39] <Thoatt> NekoMaO: You've emailed them?
#1350 [17:39] <lukegb> But they're unlikely to respond - they have a massive workload.
#1351 [17:39] <Thoatt> They might not respond until after the weekend.
#1352 [17:39] <NekoMaO> yes, i have already emailed just now
#1353 [17:39] <NekoMaO> i've purchased the game on 26th and currently now 28th
#1354 [17:41] <Thoatt> And lukegb, he purchased the game, he recieved access to the game. For him to chargeback would be fraud :)
#1355 [17:43] <AG_Scott> Thoatt, not really.
#1356 [17:43] <AG_Scott> I couldn't get it to work on ubuntu a long time ago and did a charge back after they wouldn't respond to my emails.
#1357 [17:44] <AG_Scott> I ended up buying it later again lol.
#1358 [17:44] <Thoatt> Then it was a fraudulent chargeback.
#1359 [17:44] <AG_Scott> No it wasn't.
#1360 [17:44] <AG_Scott> "item was not as described"
#1361 [17:44] <AG_Scott> it didn't work! :>
#1362 [17:46] <Thoatt> Not getting the game to work doesn't mean it wasn't as described.
#1363 [17:47] <Thoatt> You purchased a alpha/beta account, and had access to the game.. Which is what is described
#1364 [17:48] <NekoMaO> from what i understand, chargeback only works if buyers doesn't receive the item
#1365 [17:48] <NekoMaO> unless they wouldn't reply
#1366 [17:48] <Thoatt> Or if the item is not as described. Or if the purchase was fraudulent (if someone else made the purchase w/o your permission)
#1367 [17:49] <AG_Scott> It actually doesn't work like that and there was/is a notice on the site that says you can get a refund in 7 days.
#1368 [17:49] <lukegb> Thoatt: of course, if it's from a paypal account it doesn't really need to fall under those categories, does it?
#1369 [17:50] <AG_Scott> They wouldn't reply to me emails asking for a refund so I did a paypal charge back and they voluntarily refunded it.
#1370 [17:50] <Thoatt> AG_Scott: refund != chargeback.
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#1372 [17:50] <Thoatt> If they voluntarily refunded it, then it's different.
#1373 [17:50] <AG_Scott> A chargeback is what got them to refund it.
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#1375 [17:50] <AG_Scott> Do a chargeback to get attention :P
#1376 [17:51] <JoeIsPro> Ah, Back guys. Didn't really think it'd do anything, but i restarted my computer, shut off all my firewall options, and it still won't work.
#1377 [17:51] <Thoatt> A true chargeback is a forcible refund, if Mojang refunded on their own, then it wasn't an actual chargeback :)
#1378 [17:51] <NekoMaO> i guess i'll give them some time before i do a chargeback.
#1379 [17:51] <JoeIsPro> I know i'm asking a lot, but anyone have anymore Ideas for the lwjgl error?
#1380 [17:52] <NekoMaO> since i don't to make them unhappy
#1381 [17:52] <Thoatt> JoeIsPro: You don't have any firewalls or anything blocking?
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#1383 [17:52] <NekoMaO> they made great game, it's just that. i'm unable to enjoy it, well. shame on me
#1384 [17:53] <JoeIsPro> I turned them all off
#1385 [17:53] <Thoatt> NekoMaO: Give them a few days to respond to the email. I'm sure they get a lot of them.
#1386 [17:53] <oldtopman> NekoMa0: The game won't run?
#1387 [17:54] <Thoatt> oldtopman: He does not like the game.
#1388 [17:54] <oldtopman> Ah.
#1389 [17:55] <JoeIsPro> The fact that I have Satellite internet wouldn't play a part in this would it? I've had different versions of MineCraft that have worked fine.
#1390 [17:55] <NekoMaO> oldtopman : well, game's running, it's fun. but repetitive crashing
#1391 [17:55] <Thoatt> JoeIsPro: That might be it... does it stop downloading at random times?
#1392 [17:55] <Thoatt> or is it always on the first file?
#1393 [17:55] <JoeIsPro> Fatal Error
#1394 [17:56] <JoeIsPro> Yeah its always on the lwjgl
#1395 [17:56] <JoeIsPro> Always at 25%
#1396 [17:57] <Thoatt> And you've tried re-downloading the exe?
#1397 [17:57] <NekoMaO> oldtopman : i did agree on what you said on 26th, the game is very good. But i'm just unable to have any fun with those crashing, so i just requesting a refund.
#1398 [17:57] <JoeIsPro> A good 30 times. Lol.
#1399 [17:57] <Thoatt> Have you tried running it in the browser to get the files that it needs?
#1400 [17:57] <VoxelHead> moist knickers
#1401 [17:58] <JoeIsPro> Have not. Thank you.
#1402 [17:58] <JoeIsPro> Brb
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#1404 [17:58] <Thoatt> Or perhaps the .jar file
#1405 [17:59] <JoeIsPro> Nope, still didn't work.
#1406 [18:00] <JoeIsPro> Same spot, same error.
#1407 [18:00] <Thoatt> Have you tried deleting the %appdata%/.minecraft folder then running the in-browser version?
#1408 [18:00] <VoxelHead> yes, but only on the third wednesday of every month
#1409 [18:00] <JoeIsPro> just went in my roaming file and deleted .minecraft
#1410 [18:01] <JoeIsPro> Still same error.
#1411 [18:02] <Thoatt> Well, something is blocking your access to the files, do you have another computer you can try it on?
#1412 [18:02] <JoeIsPro> Yep. Brb
#1413 [18:03] <Thoatt> If it works, then just transfer the /minecraft folder to the computer you want to play on. then it should start up fine.
#1414 [18:03] <Thoatt> .minecraft*
#1415 [18:04] <JoeIsPro> Same error lol
#1416 [18:05] <Thoatt> Are you running the same firewall stuff on that computer too?
#1417 [18:05] <JoeIsPro> Lol, good point. Lemme try yet another.
#1418 [18:05] <JoeIsPro> brb
#1419 [18:05] <Thoatt> loool xD
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#1421 [18:06] <mib_t2afb9> http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1422 [18:06] <mib_t2afb9> http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1423 [18:06] <mib_t2afb9> http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1424 [18:06] <Thoatt> http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1425 [18:06] <Thoatt> fucking right click
#1426 [18:07] <Thoatt> This looks legit! /s
#1427 [18:07] <mib_t2afb9> Best Minecraft server
#1428 [18:07] <mib_t2afb9> http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1429 [18:07] <Thoatt> Stop spamming it mib_t2afb9
#1430 [18:08] <Oerg866> Spam-o-Tron
#1431 [18:08] <mib_t2afb9> sory , it was lag issues
#1432 [18:09] <JoeIsPro> K, this time I went on a comp with no virus protection at all, windows xp, internet explorer, same exact problem same exact time and i've never had minecraft on that computer
#1433 [18:10] <Thoatt> Then i'm guessing it's an issue with your internet.
#1434 [18:11] <JoeIsPro> Damn. Ok. Thank you.
#1435 [18:11] <JoeIsPro> I'll prolly just go to Burger King and put it on lap top
#1436 [18:11] <Thoatt> :D
#1437 [18:11] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1438 [18:11] <JoeIsPro> you said as long as i had the .minecraft file i could put that on a flash drive
#1439 [18:11] <Thoatt> Sounds like a plan to me :)
#1440 [18:11] <JoeIsPro> and transfer it right?
#1441 [18:11] <Thoatt> yep
#1442 [18:11] <JoeIsPro> Awesome, thanks for all the help. :)
#1443 [18:11] <Thoatt> np, sorry I couldn't help you further :/
#1444 [18:11] <VoxelHead> Mmm JoeIsPro.
#1445 [18:12] <Thoatt> damnit.
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#1448 [18:19] <mib_t2afb9> ´http://mineandcraft.yolasite.com/#/
#1449 [18:19] <Thoatt> >.>
#1450 [18:19] <mib_xx3yjn> ive got a question when i sleep in a be in minecraft a zombie spawns in my house and attacks me each time is that a bug or what?
#1451 [18:19] <VoxelHead> mp3!
#1452 [18:19] <mib_xx3yjn> *bed
#1453 [18:19] <Thoatt> Put up more torches in your house :D
#1454 [18:20] <mib_xx3yjn> o is that it?
#1455 [18:20] <Thoatt> They will spawn in the dark :)
#1456 [18:20] <mib_xx3yjn> ok ty
#1457 [18:20] <Thoatt> np :]
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#1461 [18:41] <noob> guess whos back again
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#1463 [18:41] <Thoatt> Someone from Michigan :)
#1464 [18:41] <noob> lol howed u know? creepy stalker
#1465 [18:42] <Thoatt> Creepy?
#1466 [18:42] <noob> im assuming ur an admin?
#1467 [18:42] <Thoatt> That's mean Mr. Byron Center, Michigan resident.
#1468 [18:42] <relsqui> no, everyone can see that
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#1470 [18:42] <noob> im not from byron center so ha ha h aha
#1471 [18:43] <Thoatt> Well, close anyways :P
#1472 [18:43] <noob> lol um i need helps
#1473 [18:43] <noob> with my private server for minecraft beta
#1474 [18:43] <Thoatt> What's the issue?
#1475 [18:43] <noob> how do u log into winscp
#1476 [18:44] <noob> ???
#1477 [18:44] <Thoatt> Well, just put in the host name, the username, the password and press connect
#1478 [18:45] <Thoatt> login***
#1479 [18:45] <noob> whats my host name
#1480 [18:45] <Thoatt> ... lol
#1481 [18:45] <noob> or how do i find out
#1482 [18:45] <Thoatt> Is this server on your own computer?
#1483 [18:45] <Thoatt> or are you renting a server to host it?
#1484 [18:45] <noob> nope its on all gamers computers
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#1486 [18:46] <Thoatt> Did you get an IP when you got it?
#1487 [18:46] <noob> mhm
#1488 [18:46] <Thoatt> Use that for hostname :)
#1489 [18:46] <noob> :) thnx
#1490 [18:46] <noob> and then do i use the port as well?
#1491 [18:47] <Thoatt> Uhm, try without the port first.
#1492 [18:47] <noob> so what does that mean i do in winscp
#1493 [18:47] <Thoatt> just use the ip, the name, and password.
#1494 [18:47] <noob> mmk
#1495 [18:49] <Thoatt> brb
#1496 [18:49] <noob> theres a port spot in winscp already and i cant just put nothing do i just not touch that after i have opened the winscp window
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#1499 [18:54] <noob> mmk so im in winscp ive used my account stuff and i made it in i was wondering how do i find out what commands i can use and how do i start the serve rand thing with winscp
#1500 [18:54] <noob> is anyone there
#1501 [18:55] <noob> xales are u currently able to help me out? plz
#1502 [18:55] <xales> you don't use winscp to start the server
#1503 [18:55] <xales> winscp is for managing the files only
#1504 [18:55] <noob> well how do i start it
#1505 [18:55] <xales> you would use the control panel that allgamer gave you
#1506 [18:55] <noob> use mcmyadmin
#1507 [18:56] <noob> ?
#1508 [18:56] <xales> yes
#1509 [18:56] <noob> so managing files means like i use it to give myself more commands as the owner
#1510 [18:57] <xales> you would use it to install plugins
#1511 [18:57] <xales> plugins would give you more commands
#1512 [18:57] <noob> alright thanks umm one more question where would i find the plugins?
#1513 [18:57] <AG_Scott> noob, you have McMyAdmin?
#1514 [18:57] <noob> yes i have mcmyadmin
#1515 [18:57] <AG_Scott> Have you completed the setup wizard?
#1516 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Sunday.
#1517 [18:58] <noob> yes
#1518 [18:58] <AG_Scott> and it isn't up?
#1519 [18:58] <noob> no not right now cuz i thought i could use winscp to start the server lol
#1520 [18:58] <AG_Scott> Can you submit a ticket so I can take look? I'm not quite sure what you're doing.
#1521 [18:59] <noob> aka i am what my name says im trying to give myself more commands is what im trying to do lol
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#1523 [18:59] <AG_Scott> So you know how to start the server?
#1524 [18:59] <AG_Scott> (via McMyAdmin)
#1525 [18:59] <noob> yes i do
#1526 [18:59] <AG_Scott> okay
#1527 [18:59] <AG_Scott> if you want to use plugins, you'll need to install craftbukkit.
#1528 [18:59] <AG_Scott> Click About > Updates > Install Craftbukkit
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#1531 [19:00] <noob> im just trying to make it way i can better manage my server for my friends and also so i can have mor efun as a owner by messing around with them everyonce in awhile lol
#1532 [19:00] <noob> thats in mcmyadmin or winscp?
#1533 [19:00] <AG_Scott> McMyAdmin
#1534 [19:01] <AG_Scott> WinSCP is basically a file transfer program.
#1535 [19:01] <noob> umm i have a problem right now
#1536 [19:01] <noob> mcmyadmin will not load on my computer
#1537 [19:01] <AG_Scott> Okay, can you open a ticket?
#1538 [19:01] <noob> hang on lemme try opening it from my email account
#1539 [19:02] <noob> cuz what i did was i added it to my bookmarks so i could access it easier
#1540 [19:03] <noob> umm AG_scott could it be that when i started the sever on my friends moms computer and then couldnt log off now its not lettting me on on my computer?
#1541 [19:04] <AG_Scott> Likely not.
#1542 [19:04] <AG_Scott> Just open a ticket and I'll see whats up with it.
#1543 [19:04] <noob> if i submit a ticket though u will be able to figure the reason out as to why i cant access it right?
#1544 [19:05] <xales> That's what he just said, yes
#1545 [19:05] <noob> oh sorry im a noob ok and very confused as well
#1546 [19:07] <noob> there i submitted a ticket
#1547 [19:08] <AG_Scott> and i replied ;p
#1548 [19:08] <noob> thanx
#1549 [19:09] <Thoatt> k back
#1550 [19:10] <noob> there ya go i replied to ur question
#1551 [19:10] <noob> oh i forgot one thing
#1552 [19:13] <noob> AG_scott has recieved a reply from noob? on allgamer?
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#1554 [19:31] <sprog> hey
#1555 [19:31] <xales> hello
#1556 [19:31] <sprog> any good beta servers?
#1557 [19:31] <xales> ??> sprog smp/servers
#1558 [19:31] <VoxelHead> sprog: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1559 [19:31] <VoxelHead> sprog: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1560 [19:31] <sprog> ok
#1561 [19:32] <sprog> ty
#1562 [19:32] <oldtopman> sprog: Mine is good
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#1564 [19:40] <noob> AG_scott u there?
#1565 [19:41] <AG_Scott> It's best if we do this via tickets. I'm not sure how secure this network or your network is.
#1566 [19:41] <noob> yea wait your talking about mibbit right and i have replyed in the ticket
#1567 [19:42] <AG_Scott> Okay. Done. You can access About > Updates to install craftbukkit.
#1568 [19:43] <AG_Scott> I can't really help you with the plugins themselves. You can upload them to the plugins folder it will create when you start it.
#1569 [19:44] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
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#1571 [19:47] <noob> noob is back and i was wondering where i find pluggins for admins
#1572 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/forums/plugin-releases.17/
#1573 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=
#1574 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> or http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=ADMN&au=
#1575 [19:48] <noob> thnx
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#1577 [19:57] <noob> how do i install a pluggin into my server
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#1597 [20:05] <noob> is anyone there?
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#1602 [20:05] <BarryCarlyon> Weeee!
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#1606 [20:05] <BarryCarlyon> Noob there is no mod support here try #bukkit
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#1608 [20:05] <noob> well im not modding im trying to customize the pluggins i can use as the admin of my server
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#1611 [20:06] <BarryCarlyon> Same difference.
#1612 [20:07] <noob> mmk
#1613 [20:07] <Zoroark> Vanilla doesn't support plugins
#1614 [20:07] <Kealper> ugh
#1615 [20:07] <Kealper> don't just nerdrage at people when they ask for mod support :/
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#1617 [20:07] <Kealper> although this channel does not condone mods, we don't condemn them either
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#1622 [20:08] <Kealper> hmm
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#1625 [20:08] <VoxelHead> kealper: don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
#1626 [20:08] <VoxelHead> because I don't want ass-prints on my new door!
#1627 [20:08] <noob> see well i always thought it wasnt modding when its a server i paid for i thought modding was considered cheating? and im not a cheater im an owner of a server looking to have the chance to improve my server excitement for my friends
#1628 [20:09] <Kealper> vox >.>
#1629 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Death comes to those who wait.
#1630 [20:09] <Thoatt> noob: Since there is no point to the game, how would anything be considered cheating? :)
#1631 [20:09] <BarryCarlyon> Just saying you can get better help elsewhere.
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#1634 [20:09] <Kealper> noob: most modding is not considered cheating most of the time
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#1637 [20:10] <BarryCarlyon> Modding = altering a game so it is not as its owner/creator intended. Usually pertaining to the software that powers it.
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#1639 [20:10] <BarryCarlyon> Modding comes in many forms.
#1640 [20:11] <Kealper> noob: but yes, check out #Bukkit or #RisuCraft for help with editing plugins, they are more knowledgable with mods
#1641 [20:11] <noob> ahh well either way i thought modding ment cheating to get what u want basicly because on modernwarfare 2 for xbox 360 thats what it is basicly? lol sorry completely a different game but needed a reference
#1642 [20:11] <noob> #bukkit is not responding with any help from any one
#1643 [20:11] <BarryCarlyon> Its exactly the same.
#1644 [20:11] <Kealper> well, in this game, most mods are just to add more features into the game and stuff...but yes, there are some mods that are the type you are thinking of
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#1646 [20:13] <Thoatt> loool
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#1649 [20:17] <Thoatt> GreyVulpine: JessePoo likes your mario figures on our server. :)
#1650 [20:19] <noob> omg risucraft people are b****** they fricken kicked me all because i asked what smp was
#1651 [20:20] <Thoatt> Probably because they don't want to help someone who doesn't know what it is lol
#1652 [20:20] <noob> i was like i need help with adding pluggins to my server and they were like were not smp people and they kicked me thats some bs
#1653 [20:21] <noob> thats some riduclous bogus stuff i mean sireously they cant be nice at all its just kick
#1654 [20:22] <Thoatt> I hate to sound douchebaggish but... Welcome to the Internet :)
#1655 [20:22] <noob> lol
#1656 [20:22] <noob> i like this ic cuz the admins slash people who run it are nice and help as much as possible
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#1658 [20:22] <Kealper> :P
#1659 [20:23] <Thoatt> xales will be checking tickets, make sure all your limbs remain inside the vehicle.
#1660 [20:23] <noob> lol
#1661 [20:23] <Thoatt> CREAMSODA... Y U NO STOP FIZZING... ._.
#1662 [20:23] <noob> ol
#1663 [20:24] <Kealper> salt it
#1664 [20:24] <Kealper> lightly
#1665 [20:24] <noob> omg #bukkit no one responds and #risucraft everyones a b****
#1666 [20:24] <Thoatt> I can't salt it if the cap can't come off...
#1667 [20:24] <Thoatt> I swear, i've been trying to open it for the past 10 minutes
#1668 [20:24] <noob> lol
#1669 [20:25] <Kealper> lol
#1670 [20:25] <BarryCarlyon> ssssssssssss
#1671 [20:25] <Kealper> boom?
#1672 [20:25] <VoxelHead> booooooooooooom?
#1673 [20:25] <Thoatt> I'm trying to mix my regular cream soda with my blue raspberry cream soda...
#1674 [20:25] <Kealper> lol
#1675 [20:25] <BarryCarlyon> Nope got bowed and arrowed.
#1676 [20:25] <Kealper> blue raspberry cream soda? sounds epic
#1677 [20:26] <Thoatt> It's pretty good lol
#1678 [20:26] <Thoatt> ugh ACK... this regular cream soda is shit though >.>
#1679 [20:26] <Thoatt> $.99 cream soda ftl
#1680 [20:30] <noob> umm can sumone help me find my pluggins folder for minecraft
#1681 [20:31] <Thoatt> I can if you want
#1682 [20:31] <noob> alright where would i find it at
#1683 [20:31] <aetherian> waugh
#1684 [20:32] <noob> thoat?
#1685 [20:32] <Thoatt> Did you get winscp working?
#1686 [20:33] <noob> yep
#1687 [20:33] <Thoatt> Did you get to your server folder?
#1688 [20:33] <noob> that would be where it syas my winscp login spot right?
#1689 [20:33] <Thoatt> the one with server.properties, etc.
#1690 [20:34] <Thoatt> No i mean... did you get winscp to connect yet?
#1691 [20:34] <noob> mhm
#1692 [20:34] <Thoatt> You should have a folderlist
#1693 [20:34] <noob> yep ive got desktop and things on the right then the left has stuff i have no clue what it is
#1694 [20:34] <Thoatt> What is in the left?
#1695 [20:34] <VoxelHead> minecraft
#1696 [20:35] <Thoatt> do you have server.properties in there?
#1697 [20:35] <Thoatt> >.>
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#1699 [20:43] <Fin> Im having major trouble setting up a server
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#1701 [20:43] <aetherian> Fin: specify
#1702 [20:44] <Fin> I just want it for my friends and I. I followed Skype's guide to port forwarding, but it still wont let me connect using my external IP
#1703 [20:44] <Fin> I can connect using localhost
#1704 [20:44] <Fin> just not external ip
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#1706 [20:44] <aetherian> ...
#1707 [20:44] <aetherian> you have to connect via localhost
#1708 [20:45] <aetherian> your friends connect to the external
#1709 [20:45] <aetherian> not you
#1710 [20:45] <Thoatt> aetherian: You should not have to connect to local...
#1711 [20:45] <Thoatt> you should be able to connect to the outside ip.
#1712 [20:45] <aetherian> it doesn't matter if you can, you bloody shouldn't
#1713 [20:45] <guanoo1918> Hey guys, I have a quick question. While hosting my own mc server, I can connected to it just fine, but I'm trying to get my other computer that's on the same network connected to the same router on to the server, but it keeps saying "connection refused: connect". Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem?
#1714 [20:46] <Coll> isnt local the better option regardless?
#1715 [20:46] <aetherian> guanoo1918: what ip are you using from the other computer?
#1716 [20:46] <guanoo1918> I can connect*
#1717 [20:46] <Thoatt> Yes, but that doesn't help him with his problem.
#1718 [20:46] <Fin> Im sorry, you don't have to be so rude ._.
#1719 [20:46] <aetherian> Thoatt: it may
#1720 [20:46] <Fin> I was just trying to test it
#1721 [20:46] <Thoatt> Not for other people lol
#1722 [20:46] <aetherian> you. don't. know. that.
#1723 [20:47] <aetherian> Fin: have a friend try to connect
#1724 [20:47] <Fin> Mkay
#1725 [20:47] <aetherian> then come back if it doesn't work
#1726 [20:47] <Thoatt> !check 71.58.114.179
#1727 [20:47] <aetherian> lovely
#1728 [20:49] <guanoo1918> The ip is the same as the computer I'm hosting the server off of.
#1729 [20:49] <Thoatt> guanoo1918: are you trying to connect to the internal ip?
#1730 [20:50] <aetherian> um
#1731 [20:50] <Thoatt> Also, do you have firewalls disabled?
#1732 [20:51] <guanoo1918> Hold on, lemme try disabling all the firewalls and see if it fixes anything. I've been trying to connect using the ip it gave me to try and connect to.
#1733 [20:51] <aetherian> blwgauh
#1734 [20:51] <aetherian> "the ip it gave you"
#1735 [20:51] <aetherian> what's that supposed to mean?
#1736 [20:52] <guanoo1918> The computer with the server on its IP.
#1737 [20:52] <aetherian> ...nevermind
#1738 [20:52] <Thoatt> 192.168.x.x ?
#1739 [20:53] <Thoatt> or 10.0.x.x
#1740 [20:53] <Thoatt> ?
#1741 [20:53] <guanoo1918> I've tried the external ip as well as the 10.0.x.x
#1742 [20:53] <guanoo1918> neither work
#1743 [20:53] <Thoatt> Then it'd be a firewall issue :)
#1744 [20:54] <Thoatt> (if the internal doesn't work )
#1745 [20:54] <Thoatt> On either side as well, you have to enable the exception for minecraft on the server, and the client computer.
#1746 [20:54] <guanoo1918> Okay, well I just disabled the firewall on the computer and it let me on the other computer, so I guess that was the problem.
#1747 [20:54] <guanoo1918> Thanks for the help guys.
#1748 [20:54] <Thoatt> :)
#1749 [20:54] <Thoatt> np
#1750 [20:54] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1751 [20:56] <Fin> I cant get ahold of my friends, but I think im doing somehting wrong anyways. I forwarded the a port using Skype's guide and then tried to connect. Was there more that I needed to do? Im soryr im so stupid with this stuff ._.
#1752 [20:56] <aetherian> uh
#1753 [20:56] <Thoatt> Fin, connect to 127.0.0.1
#1754 [20:56] <aetherian> go to server.properties
#1755 [20:56] <Thoatt> or 'localhost'
#1756 [20:56] <Thoatt> Your friends can connect to the server.
#1757 [20:56] <VoxelHead> cheerio
#1758 [20:57] <aetherian> Thoatt: unless... I'm doing some error handling
#1759 [20:57] <Fin> I've been able to do that much. So me not being able to connect through the external is usually fine?
#1760 [20:57] <aetherian> Fin: you at the file yet?
#1761 [20:57] <VoxelHead> shopping
#1762 [20:57] <Thoatt> Fin: I'm connected to it right now.
#1763 [20:57] <Fin> Yes, aetherian
#1764 [20:57] <aetherian> oh, he's connected
#1765 [20:57] <aetherian> then nevermind
#1766 [20:57] <Fin> ....Your connected to my server?
#1767 [20:57] <Fin> waitwhat
#1768 [20:57] <Thoatt> I am indeed
#1769 [20:57] <aetherian> and may I say, "ha!" to you, thoatt.
#1770 [20:58] <Fin> Hold on for a moment and stay, if you wouldnt mind
#1771 [20:58] <Thoatt> np, just chillin
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#1773 [20:59] <oldtopman> How do I change my charachter shin in beta?
#1774 [20:59] <oldtopman> shin*
#1775 [20:59] <aetherian> on minecraft.net
#1776 [20:59] <aetherian> under profile, I believe
#1777 [20:59] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/
#1778 [20:59] <aetherian> oh wait
#1779 [20:59] <aetherian> that's skin
#1780 [20:59] <BarryCarlyon> I don't think its working last time I checked.
#1781 [20:59] <aetherian> I dunno about shins
#1782 [20:59] <oldtopman> And when I do upload, nothing happens
#1783 [20:59] <Fin> I just popped in on it. I dont think your on mine. How did you find the ip for it?
#1784 [21:00] <aetherian> Fin: whois ftw
#1785 [21:00] <Thoatt> I'm connected to whoever is hosting on your ip.
#1786 [21:00] <Thoatt> DarkTakua is here with me, whoever that is. lol
#1787 [21:00] <oldtopman> Can I make a new game theme and change the skin there?
#1788 [21:00] <Fin> Yeah then thats not me
#1789 [21:00] <Fin> No idea who that is
#1790 [21:00] <Thoatt> It's at your ip...
#1791 [21:00] <Fin> hmm i must hav emessed something up
#1792 [21:01] <Thoatt> are you on a shared internet?
#1793 [21:01] <Fin> No. Im the only comptuer in the house
#1794 [21:01] <Thoatt> What kind of internet do you have?
#1795 [21:01] <Fin> aetherians here xD I have att
#1796 [21:02] <Fin> WThank you bothf or your help
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#1798 [21:02] <Thoatt> lol ok?
#1799 [21:02] <Fin> And dealing with my stupidity xD
#1800 [21:02] <aetherian> heh
#1801 [21:02] <aetherian> I can connect, anyways
#1802 [21:02] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1803 [21:03] <Fin> Woot, thanks. Ima go run off now and work on it...
#1804 [21:03] <VoxelHead> Aw... you look so cute.
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#1806 [21:04] <RayWil> Hello, I am in search for job as a developer and my skills are very unique. Who may I seak to for a job here?
#1807 [21:06] <aetherian> I think this is the correct time to facepalm in real life
#1808 [21:06] * aetherian facekeyboards because his hand is typing
#1808 [21:07] <aetherian> hang on, I can handle this peacefully
#1809 [21:07] <aetherian> RayWil: we're a nonprofit organization
#1810 [21:08] <aetherian> only elite volunteers
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#1812 [21:09] <Thoatt> aetherian: MORE PEACFULLY!
#1813 [21:09] <aetherian> Thoatt: nonono, I think that was very dignified the way I answered him
#1814 [21:09] <Thoatt> Hmm *removes monocle* indubitubly!
#1815 [21:10] <aetherian> and subliminally condescending, too!
#1816 [21:10] <aetherian> what fun :D
#1817 [21:10] <aetherian> indubitibly?
#1818 [21:10] <Thoatt> The best kind of condescending!
#1819 [21:10] <aetherian> err
#1820 [21:10] <aetherian> intubit...
#1821 [21:10] <aetherian> dammit
#1822 [21:11] <aetherian> although
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#1824 [21:11] <aetherian> I don't doubt that his skills are... very unique
#1825 [21:11] <Thoatt> quite.
#1826 [21:12] <aetherian> I wonder what's for supper
#1827 [21:12] <Thoatt> Just a guess here... but probably some form of edible material.
#1828 [21:12] <aetherian> o.o
#1829 [21:12] <aetherian> where do you live, weirdo
#1830 [21:13] <Thoatt> So what have you been up to? I haven't seen you in a while lol
#1831 [21:13] <aetherian> uh, what do you mean?
#1832 [21:13] <Thoatt> what do you mean what do you mean? lol
#1833 [21:13] <aetherian> I saw you yesterday
#1834 [21:13] <aetherian> and sometime before that
#1835 [21:13] <Thoatt> I mean before that lol
#1836 [21:14] <aetherian> your name seems more familiar than it should o.o
#1837 [21:14] <Thoatt> I didn't really talk to you yesterday lol
#1838 [21:14] <aetherian> yes you did
#1839 [21:14] <Thoatt> I'm from kchat as well?
#1840 [21:14] <aetherian> we got into an argument, just like today
#1841 [21:14] <aetherian> :D
#1842 [21:14] <VoxelHead> =D
#1843 [21:14] <aetherian> and yeah, now I remember
#1844 [21:14] <Thoatt> That's my speciality!
#1845 [21:14] <aetherian> you scared me for a sec
#1846 [21:14] <Thoatt> I can get into arguments like no other!
#1847 [21:15] <aetherian> I thought you were from somewhere else
#1848 [21:15] <Thoatt> lol
#1849 [21:15] <aetherian> hey, at least I won it today :)
#1850 [21:15] <Thoatt> lol suuure you did :)
#1851 [21:15] <aetherian> he couldn't connect to his external
#1852 [21:15] <Thoatt> You may call it winning, I call it 'delayed loosing' :)
#1853 [21:15] <aetherian> I said that didn't matter
#1854 [21:15] <aetherian> blah blah
#1855 [21:15] <aetherian> and someone died
#1856 [21:16] <aetherian> typical
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#1858 [21:18] <aetherian> everybody knows that the best hallucogenic drug is bananadine :)
#1859 [21:18] <aetherian> welp, back to the (insert whatever I'm doing here)
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#1861 [21:27] <aetherian> woohoo
#1862 [21:27] <aetherian> 3ds game came :O
#1863 [21:27] <aetherian> ...
#1864 [21:27] <Thoatt> xd
#1865 [21:27] <aetherian> now I just need to wait for the system to come D:<
#1866 [21:29] <aetherian> well
#1867 [21:29] <aetherian> at least the cover looks pretty cool
#1868 [21:30] <Thoatt> xD
#1869 [21:30] <aetherian> I really hope the system comes tomorrow...
#1870 [21:35] <aetherian> enough time gazing
#1871 [21:35] <aetherian> I'm cracking this baby open
#1872 [21:36] <RayWil> Oh sorry I was eating. And I am ok with volenteering.
#1873 [21:36] <aetherian> read a bit further
#1874 [21:37] <Thoatt> RayWil: This is more of a support chat for minecraft, not really anything relating to programming.
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#1876 [21:37] <aetherian> tech support, if you will
#1877 [21:40] <AG_Scott> community tech support*
#1878 [21:40] <BarryCarlyon> with traps
#1879 [21:40] <RayWil> oh, well where do I go for programming?
#1880 [21:40] <Thoatt> #programming
#1881 [21:40] <Thoatt> :)
#1882 [21:40] <VoxelHead> =)
#1883 [21:41] <RayWil> no one is there?
#1884 [21:41] <Thoatt> Not sure...
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#1886 [21:42] <aetherian> ow
#1887 [21:42] <aetherian> darn the remote host!
#1888 [21:43] <aetherian> we will strike back!
#1889 [21:43] <aetherian> after that, we shall burn the "peer" at the stake, for all those disconnects
#1890 [21:43] <aetherian> the users will reign again!
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#1893 [21:46] <limitless777> Hello
#1894 [21:46] <Thoatt> Howdy
#1895 [21:46] <limitless777> Oh whoops wrong channel :/
#1896 [21:46] <limitless777> :P
#1897 [21:46] <Thoatt> ._.
#1898 [21:47] <limitless777> Well adios! haha sorry
#1899 [21:47] <VoxelHead> evaluation: PATHETIC@~£*^^
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#1901 [21:50] <JasonZero> Hi yes, I sent in an email about a week ago, about my brother's minecraft account, which he paid for, but now it says he hasn't. I have still not received a reply, any reason as to why?
#1902 [21:50] <Thoatt> What is his minecraft username?
#1903 [21:50] <JasonZero> Kirikio
#1904 [21:50] <Thoatt> !paid Kirikio
#1905 [21:51] <JasonZero> yes I have done that crap already
#1906 [21:51] <Thoatt> Did you email payment@mojang.com?
#1907 [21:51] <JasonZero> but I have a receipt that proves otherwise
#1908 [21:51] <JasonZero> and I have sent an email to payment@mojang
#1909 [21:51] <JasonZero> with those receipts
#1910 [21:51] <Thoatt> was he signed into /that/ account when he purchased it?
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#1912 [21:52] <JasonZero> yes. it worked for several months
#1913 [21:52] <JasonZero> *weeks
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#1915 [21:52] <JasonZero> then recently it stopped working
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#1917 [21:52] <Thoatt> hmmm... I've never heard of that issue. Maybe someone who's been here longer can help :)
#1918 [21:52] <Dustin> Hello
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#1920 [21:52] <Dustin> Is minecraft down?
#1921 [21:53] <Thoatt> http://isminecraftdown.net/
#1922 [21:53] <Dustin> Uhh...
#1923 [21:53] <Dustin> Lol
#1924 [21:53] <Dustin> Oh
#1925 [21:53] <Thoatt> http://www.isup.me/minecraft.net
#1926 [21:53] <Thoatt> :P
#1927 [21:54] <Dustin> Well, i was on a server, left to make some food, came back and i got an error message
#1928 [21:54] <JasonZero> well if you can ask around that would be much appreciative, seems I can't find many mods actually online to help...
#1929 [21:54] <Thoatt> xales: you here?
#1930 [21:54] <Dustin> Should i just keep trying to login?
#1931 [21:55] <Thoatt> Dustin: try restarting mc
#1932 [21:55] <Dustin> It says "failed to connect to the server" Connection refused:connect
#1933 [21:55] <Dustin> Keeps saying that
#1934 [21:55] <Thoatt> When trying to log into minecraft? or trying to connect to the server?
#1935 [21:55] <JasonZero> usually I just revert back to an old version of the client then upgrade back to the new client and it all works out fine
#1936 [21:55] <Dustin> When trying to connect to server
#1937 [21:56] <Thoatt> That means something is wrong with the server :)
#1938 [21:56] <JasonZero> that is if you kept the old client though
#1939 [21:57] <Dustin> Nope
#1940 [21:57] <Dustin> How long should it take before i can play again? :D
#1941 [21:58] <JasonZero> well if you know how to get in touch with the server owner, tell him to run a maintenance check on his server
#1942 [21:58] <JasonZero> what is your MC username?
#1943 [21:59] <Dustin> Thegrimace99
#1944 [21:59] <Thoatt> Dustin:
#1945 [21:59] <Thoatt> Check to see if the server is up with the !check command
#1946 [21:59] <Dustin> I have no way of getting ahold of him
#1947 [21:59] <Thoatt> in here
#1948 [21:59] <Dustin> !check
#1949 [21:59] <Thoatt> with the ip
#1950 [22:00] <Thoatt> or hostname
#1951 [22:00] <JasonZero> try conecting to 209.236.124.218
#1952 [22:00] <Thoatt> !check ip
#1953 [22:00] <Thoatt> like that
#1954 [22:00] <Dustin> !check massiveminecraft.com:25565
#1955 [22:00] <Thoatt> The server is down then
#1956 [22:00] <Dustin> Hmm
#1957 [22:00] <Dustin> Okay, thanks guys
#1958 [22:00] <Thoatt> np
#1959 [22:01] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :[
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#1961 [22:02] <JasonZero> alright well I'll wait a little bit longer for a response from mojang, but I think a week is a little ridiculous :/
#1962 [22:02] <Thoatt> Try emailing them again.
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#1965 [22:05] <kirbywarp> hey all, I got a weird issue with a darkroom trap...
#1966 [22:05] * CarpeMofo [CarpeMofo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1967 [22:05] <Thoatt> JasonZero: What is the exact error he gets when trying to log in?
#1968 [22:06] <Thoatt> Damn.. nvm
#1969 [22:06] <kirbywarp> and mob spawning
#1970 [22:06] <CarpeMofo> Every time I try to join a SMP server, it says 'Bad login'.
#1971 [22:06] <kirbywarp> how many hostile mobs and neuteral mobs should there be at a time?
#1972 [22:07] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: Have you purchased the game?
#1973 [22:07] <CarpeMofo> Well yeah.
#1974 [22:07] <VoxelHead> i like them :)
#1975 [22:07] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: It's random, mobs will spawn in darkness, at least 24 blocks away from you.
#1976 [22:07] <kirbywarp> right, but what are the maximums?
#1977 [22:07] <Thoatt> I'm not sure there are any...
#1978 [22:07] <kirbywarp> It seems like I have about 100 neuteral mobs and about 15-20 hostiles
#1979 [22:08] <kirbywarp> so my dark-room trap spits nearly nothing
#1980 [22:08] <Thoatt> Well, that seems about right for the ratio lol
#1981 [22:08] <kirbywarp> shouldn't it be reversed?
#1982 [22:08] <Thoatt> remove all the grass in the room :)
#1983 [22:08] <kirbywarp> there isn't any
#1984 [22:09] <Thoatt> o.O
#1985 [22:09] <kirbywarp> its dug out at level 40
#1986 [22:09] <Thoatt> Neutral mobs will only spawn on grass iirc...
#1987 [22:09] <kirbywarp> yup
#1988 [22:09] <Thoatt> and you have mobs spawning there?
#1989 [22:09] <Thoatt> w/o grass...
#1990 [22:09] <kirbywarp> Almost none
#1991 [22:09] <kirbywarp> yeah, I want to trap and kill the hostile mobs
#1992 [22:09] <Thoatt> oh... I thought you said 100...
#1993 [22:10] <kirbywarp> looking at the F3 menu, on peaceful the count for entities is around 100, and on normal its around 115
#1994 [22:10] <Thoatt> oooooohhhhhh.. gotcha...
#1995 [22:10] <Thoatt> it's not lit is it?
#1996 [22:10] <kirbywarp> mmhm
#1997 [22:10] <kirbywarp> nope
#1998 [22:10] <CarpeMofo> I own the game, I know port forwarding is set up properly and that no virus/malware or software firewall is interfering
#1999 [22:10] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: can you log into the site?
#2000 [22:10] <kirbywarp> dark-room, about 72x18 or so
#2001 [22:11] <kirbywarp> 3 tall on the spawning areas
#2002 [22:11] <kirbywarp> with water channels
#2003 [22:11] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: I'm not sure... did it just start not working?
#2004 [22:11] <kirbywarp> nah, it hasn't worked since I built it
#2005 [22:11] <Thoatt> or has it ever worked*
#2006 [22:11] <Thoatt> Oh
#2007 [22:11] <Thoatt> Then it's probably just normal...
#2008 [22:11] <Thoatt> Try building a huge one xD
#2009 [22:11] <kirbywarp> I've seen similar designs in videos that seem to work much better
#2010 [22:11] <CarpeMofo> Yep, I can login to the site, I can start up a suvrival game on the web based client, Single player survival mode works just fine, I just can't login to an SMP server.
#2011 [22:12] <kirbywarp> Similar size too
#2012 [22:12] <kirbywarp> shouldn't there be more hostile than neuteral mobs?
#2013 [22:12] <kirbywarp> that's the main thing that's worrying me
#2014 [22:12] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: Not really
#2015 [22:13] <Thoatt> errrr.... kirbywarp***
#2016 [22:13] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: 'bad login' or 'you need to login!'?
#2017 [22:13] <CarpeMofo> 'Bad Login'
#2018 [22:14] <Thoatt> Have you restarted the client and tried again already?
#2019 [22:14] <VoxelHead> I might.
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#2021 [22:14] <kirbywarp> I've read a bunch of forum posts, some of them dated, that have said the limit on mobs is around 80 for hostiles, 15 for neuterals, and 5 for squid...
#2022 [22:14] <CarpeMofo> Restarted the client multiple times as well as restarting my computer.
#2023 [22:14] <Dark_Fox> Hey, my friend is trying to connect to my minecraft server. I've got the ports forwarded correctly as I can access it through my external IP. But he keeps getting an HTTP 400 error when he tries to connect and my server says "connection lost" when he connects
#2024 [22:15] <Thoatt> Dark_Fox: server ip?
#2025 [22:15] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: one server? or all servers?
#2026 [22:15] <CarpeMofo> Every server I have tried.
#2027 [22:16] <Dark_Fox> Hrm.. Seems the same thing happened to you, thoatt
#2028 [22:16] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: at night or at day?
#2029 [22:16] <Thoatt> Dark_Fox: I'm not connecting to it, I was just checking with AuBot to see if it was up
#2030 [22:16] <Dark_Fox> Oh
#2031 [22:16] <kirbywarp> the limits? or when I'm trying my trap?
#2032 [22:16] <VoxelHead> mmm oldtopman
#2033 [22:16] <kirbywarp> I'm trying my trap during the day
#2034 [22:16] <CarpeMofo> I also tried running minecraft with admin privelages.
#2035 [22:17] <kirbywarp> and I've used a mapping tool to look for caves near my trap, there don't seem to be any (or at least not many)
#2036 [22:17] <kirbywarp> the mobs shouldn't have a lot of other ares to spawn...
#2037 [22:17] <kirbywarp> *areas
#2038 [22:17] <Thoatt> Dark_Fox: I can connect just fine, it's an issue with your friend's client.
#2039 [22:18] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: Maybe it's just a crappy location... have you tried building one at chunk 1,1 ?
#2040 [22:18] <CarpeMofo> I also temporarily set my hardware firewall to DMZPlus, that didn't work either.
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#2042 [22:18] <Dark_Fox> Oh. No god damned wonder
#2043 [22:18] <kirbywarp> I'm not sure that trick works anymore, I've read the thread "Mob Science" or something like that, and the rules for the order in which chunks are processed is randomized
#2044 [22:18] <Dark_Fox> Apparently my friend is using a hacked copy and didn't tell me
#2045 [22:18] <Thoatt> Dark_Fox: lol
#2046 [22:19] <The_Observer> lol
#2047 [22:19] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: I'm not sure, but mine at my chunk 1,1 works a lot better than my other one at 128,128 still
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#2049 [22:21] <CarpeMofo> Reinstall didn't work either.
#2050 [22:21] <HamHamm> 99% of my players get stuck on the downloading terrain phase of connection and then get a "disconnect.endOfStream" error in the console
#2051 [22:21] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: It varies a LOT by how much lighting you have, etc.
#2052 [22:22] <kirbywarp> light should be 0
#2053 [22:22] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: you don't have any lighting around you at all?
#2054 [22:22] <kirbywarp> not in the trap
#2055 [22:22] <Thoatt> no.. I mean around where you are...
#2056 [22:22] <kirbywarp> ??
#2057 [22:22] <kirbywarp> yeah, I have lights around me...?
#2058 [22:22] <Thoatt> if you have a lot of lighting around you, then obviously there is going to be more neutral mobs
#2059 [22:23] <Thoatt> HamHamm: Have you tried restarting the server?
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#2061 [22:23] <kirbywarp> so there isn't an upper limit to the numbers of each?
#2062 [22:23] <HamHamm> Thoatt: yeah, as well as the VPS that it is on
#2063 [22:23] <kirbywarp> thats... bizarre...
#2064 [22:23] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: I'm sure there is some arbitrary number, but I'm not sure what it is.
#2065 [22:24] <Thoatt> HamHamm: What is the ip (if you don't mind me asking)
#2066 [22:24] <kirbywarp> all i know for sure is that a trap that, for other people, spawns a ton of hostiles, is producing nearly nothing for me....
#2067 [22:24] <Thoatt> You can pm me it if you wish.
#2068 [22:25] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: You aren't standing by it are you?
#2069 [22:25] <kirbywarp> I am, but its 72 long, and the limit for spawns near you should be 24
#2070 [22:25] <kirbywarp> or so
#2071 [22:25] <kirbywarp> the collecter is situated near one end underneath the trap
#2072 [22:26] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: Then idk.. I'm out of ideas lol.
#2073 [22:26] <kirbywarp> *sigh* thanks for trying, at any rate
#2074 [22:26] <Thoatt> kirbywarp: sorry I couldn't help anymore :(
#2075 [22:26] <kirbywarp> no worries
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#2077 [22:27] <kirbywarp> if there aren't limits on types of mobs, it would make sense that a bunch of neuteral mobs spawn then don't despawn, but I could swear it didn't work that way
#2078 [22:27] <CarpeMofo> Any other suggestions?
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#2080 [22:31] <kirbywarp> anyone else have trouble with a darkroom trap that didn't output as much as it should, and fixed it?
#2081 [22:32] <kirbywarp> :(...
#2082 [22:33] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: you've tried reinstalling, and it doesn't work in-browser?
#2083 [22:34] <CarpeMofo> Thoatt: Works perfectly in browser.
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#2085 [22:36] <TheDog3394> hello?
#2086 [22:36] <LoRDTrevor> hi
#2087 [22:36] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: idk then =/ try redownloading the launcher?
#2088 [22:36] <TheDog3394> oh hi
#2089 [22:37] <TheDog3394> is there i wom survival server
#2090 [22:37] <TheDog3394> ?
#2091 [22:37] <LoRDTrevor> wat?
#2092 [22:37] <Thoatt> is there whowhatnow?
#2093 [22:37] <TheDog3394> survival
#2094 [22:37] <Thoatt> is there a survival server?
#2095 [22:37] <TheDog3394> yeh
#2096 [22:38] <TheDog3394> kno
#2097 [22:38] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2098 [22:38] <LoRDTrevor> bwuh?
#2099 [22:38] <TheDog3394> no
#2100 [22:38] <Thoatt> LoRDTrevor: you fgollowing? I'm not... lol
#2101 [22:38] <Thoatt> -g
#2102 [22:38] <TheDog3394> a multiplayer
#2103 [22:38] <TheDog3394> server
#2104 [22:38] <Thoatt> Are you asking if there is one you can join?
#2105 [22:38] <LoRDTrevor> Thoatt: nope
#2106 [22:38] <TheDog3394> why
#2107 [22:39] <TheDog3394> dam
#2108 [22:39] <Thoatt> Is that our version of drunks?
#2109 [22:39] <HamHamm> that was amusing to say the least....
#2110 [22:40] <LoRDTrevor> i am utterly baffled ?_?
#2111 [22:40] <CarpeMofo> Thoatt: Will that erase my savegames?
#2112 [22:40] <Thoatt> wait... who was I trying to help again? lol
#2113 [22:40] <Thoatt> CarpeMofo: What? lol
#2114 [22:40] <Thoatt> will what?
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#2116 [22:40] <Thoatt> ??> CarpeMofo win/reinst
#2117 [22:41] <VoxelHead> CarpeMofo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2118 [22:41] <Thoatt> that?
#2119 [22:41] <VoxelHead> CarpeMofo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2120 [22:41] <CarpeMofo> VoxelHead: Already tried that.
#2121 [22:41] <Thoatt> inside %appdata$/.minecraft there is a /saves/ folder, back that up if you are worried about your savegames :)
#2122 [22:41] <Thoatt> wait... then will what erase your savegames?
#2123 [22:41] <Thoatt> re-downloading the launcher?
#2124 [22:42] <CarpeMofo> Reinstalling the the launcher.
#2125 [22:42] <Thoatt> no, your savegames will be fine
#2126 [22:44] <LoRDTrevor> woah did voxelhead just give legimate advice?
#2127 [22:44] <Thoatt> it posted what I told it to post. lol
#2128 [22:45] <LoRDTrevor> voxel is not a bot(at least hes not always one)
#2129 [22:45] <Thoatt> lol.. yes it is
#2130 [22:45] <Thoatt> :D
#2131 [22:45] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2132 [22:45] <CarpeMofo> Wait, by reinstalling the launcher do you mean redownloading bin, or reinstalling the whole thing?
#2133 [22:46] <LoRDTrevor> no we had a conversation with it
#2134 [22:46] <LoRDTrevor> hes male
#2135 [22:46] <LoRDTrevor> and stuff
#2136 [22:46] <Thoatt> I mean, redownloading the exe from the site
#2137 [22:46] <Thoatt> LoRDTrevor: you had a conversation with a bot. lol
#2138 [22:47] <LoRDTrevor> if he is a bot that is one advanced bot
#2139 [22:47] <Thoatt> indeed.
#2140 [22:47] <LoRDTrevor> voxel im having trouble forwarding my port.
#2141 [22:47] <LoRDTrevor> when a noob asks that he gives them that damn site
#2142 [22:47] <HamHamm> heya Thoatt looks like downloading a new jar did not fix the issue.
#2143 [22:48] <Thoatt> HamHamm: =/
#2144 [22:48] <HamHamm> so im kinda at a loss >.>
#2145 [22:48] <HamHamm> what really bogles me is that two people are about to lo in with no issues
#2146 [22:49] <Thoatt> o.O
#2147 [22:49] <Thoatt> Ok so, you have issues with player data files then
#2148 [22:49] <HamHamm> hmmm lemme try del mine
#2149 [22:49] <VoxelHead> :)
#2150 [22:49] <Thoatt> VoxelHead: stop being a bot.
#2151 [22:50] <Thoatt> That's what I thought.
#2152 [22:50] <Thoatt> Try deleting mine and I'll try to re-connect
#2153 [22:51] <HamHamm> well I just tried changin mine to a .old and still getting the same issue.
#2154 [22:51] <Thoatt> hmmm...
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#2156 [22:52] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#2157 [22:52] <HamHamm> I just rm'd yours try connnecting
#2158 [22:52] <LoRDTrevor> see
#2159 [22:52] <LoRDTrevor> thats not a bot
#2160 [22:52] <Thoatt> lol
#2161 [22:52] <Thoatt> :)
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#2163 [22:52] <VoxelHead> =]
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#2165 [22:53] <Thoatt> ahH! linux?
#2166 [22:53] <CarpeMofo> Meh, I have the browser one working which is good enough... Any SMP server suggestions?
#2167 [22:53] <HamHamm> CentOs5 to be exact
#2168 [22:53] <Thoatt> Did the permissions get changed for the folder?
#2169 [22:53] <LoRDTrevor> ratatas.com is good but i think there gonna be down tonight
#2170 [22:53] <Kealper> CarpeMofo: http://mcserverlist.net
#2171 [22:53] <Thoatt> try to chmod -R 771 serverfolder/
#2172 [22:54] <HamHamm> nope, im the only one who should have access
#2173 [22:54] <Thoatt> try to chmod it anyways lol
#2174 [22:55] <HamHamm> well it couldnt be that since a couple can connect.. =/
#2175 [22:55] <HamHamm> tried it and no go
#2176 [22:55] <Thoatt> hmm....
#2177 [22:55] <Thoatt> are they connecting to the same address you gave me?
#2178 [22:56] <HamHamm> yes
#2179 [22:56] <Thoatt> any i/o errors in your log files?
#2180 [22:56] <Thoatt> (system log file)
#2181 [22:57] <Thoatt> /var/log/messages
#2182 [22:58] <Dark_Fox> Do the custom skins uploaded at minecraft.com/skin work on SMP beta?
#2183 [22:58] <HamHamm> not that I can see
#2184 [22:58] <HamHamm> yes
#2185 [22:58] <HamHamm> Dark_Fox: yeah they o
#2186 [22:58] <HamHamm> do*
#2187 [22:58] <Dark_Fox> Kickass, thanks for the help HamHamm
#2188 [22:58] <HamHamm> no problem!
#2189 [22:59] <Thoatt> ... Why does everyone else get the easy questions >.>
#2190 [22:59] <HamHamm> lol
#2191 [22:59] <HamHamm> honeslty this is the first issue I have yet to be able to solve in a few minutes >.<
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#2193 [23:16] <Dark_Fox> Does it take a while for the new skin to upload?
#2194 [23:17] <Dark_Fox> I've selected a char.png file and clicked upload, but when I click on the "show skin" link it says "or not..."
#2195 [23:17] <Thoatt> look in game, the skin previews have been broken for a while
#2196 [23:17] <Dark_Fox> Oh, okay
#2197 [23:18] <Thoatt> (you have to re-log ingame as well)
#2198 [23:18] <AG_Scott> Dark_Fox, I think I uploaded my skin earlier 50 times because of that
#2199 [23:18] <Dark_Fox> Thanks Thoatt
#2200 [23:18] <Thoatt> did it work?
#2201 [23:19] <Dark_Fox> Yes, it works. Thanks a bunch~
#2202 [23:20] <Thoatt> np.. sometimes it's finicky -.
#2203 [23:20] <Thoatt> =/(
#2204 [23:20] <Thoatt> =/***
#2205 [23:21] <Dark_Fox> It's all good. As long as I get to be optimus prime.
#2206 [23:21] <Thoatt> loool nice
#2207 [23:22] <Dark_Fox> Man, even after I've played this game to death it still finds new ways to surprise me
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#2210 [23:34] <merp> my game wont work
#2211 [23:34] <Thoatt> How so?
#2212 [23:35] <merp> its broke
#2213 [23:35] <Thoatt> You can't just say 'its broke' and expect any of us to know what the problem is...
#2214 [23:35] <merp> idk what it is
#2215 [23:35] <bokaholic> o.o;
#2216 [23:36] <Thoatt> Are you trying to play from the browser? or the launcher?
#2217 [23:36] <merp> wut?
#2218 [23:36] <Thoatt> ...
#2219 [23:36] <merp> wuts that
#2220 [23:36] <Thoatt> Are you playing here: http://www.minecraft.net/game/ or the exe/jar file?
#2221 [23:37] <merp> what is the second one
#2222 [23:37] <fogWraith> Smells like trollspirit
#2223 [23:37] <Thoatt> indeed.
#2224 [23:37] <merp> trololololololol
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#2226 [23:38] <aetherian> the second one is th-
#2227 [23:38] <aetherian> damn
#2228 [23:38] <Thoatt> lol
#2229 [23:38] <fogWraith> :|
#2230 [23:39] <bokaholic> Wow..
#2231 [23:39] <bokaholic> That was pretty pathetic.
#2232 [23:39] <aetherian> besides
#2233 [23:39] <aetherian> wat is more annoying than wut, and he was misusing "wut"
#2234 [23:40] <Thoatt> wut?
#2235 [23:40] <Thoatt> :P
#2236 [23:40] <fogWraith> lolwut?!
#2237 [23:40] <aetherian> ...
#2238 [23:40] <aetherian> no
#2239 [23:40] <Thoatt> whostuckwhatinthewherenow?
#2240 [23:40] <bokaholic> D8
#2241 [23:40] <aetherian> explosionsaywhat
#2242 [23:41] <Thoatt> sssssssssss
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#2244 [23:41] <aetherian> oh
#2245 [23:41] <aetherian> okay
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#2248 [23:45] <Thoatt> Anywho... I'll be back tomorrow sometime...
#2249 [23:46] <bokaholic> Have glorious night. :)
#2250 [23:46] <bokaholic> Have a*
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#2253 [23:52] <DJJeff> tnt is glitching up
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