#MinecraftHelp > 2011-04-02
#1 [00:00] <RagaSalim> i just black screen in browser
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#3 [00:00] <lemon-rev> your java is upated correct ?
#4 [00:00] <Weecha> hello my q is when i try to open minecraft it gives me an error saying the program can't find its preexisting java environment so i tried reinstalling both java n minecraft still no luck plz help
#5 [00:00] <RagaSalim> well thats the thing. i had problems with java. i'm using SE 7, which isn't really the latest download
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#7 [00:01] <RagaSalim> just the one they want people to test
#8 [00:01] <lemon-rev> weecha what os, and what message are you getting or even if you get a log file, if your getting more than that one line can you pastebin your fault please
#9 [00:01] <famerdave> I have my old minecraft.jar from Indev, and everytime I start it up...it gets all the way to Post-processing and crashes with java.lang.NullPointerException....a little help please?
#10 [00:01] <lemon-rev> famedave reinstall java
#11 [00:02] <lemon-rev> ragesalim so your running se7 and your on a test for java ?
#12 [00:02] <famerdave> but the new minecraft works?? I just want to see Rana and them....
#13 [00:02] <RagaSalim> i guess, someone on reddit said it made fps better so i dl'ed it
#14 [00:03] <lemon-rev> famerdave you talking about a mod ?
#15 [00:03] <VoxelHead> Let's all ask each other! that'll solve this problem!
#16 [00:03] <RagaSalim> but now i feel like it's prohibiting me from reinstalling 6
#17 [00:03] <famerdave> No, I am talking about Indev from like early 2010 I think..
#18 [00:03] <RagaSalim> haha yeah, i think lemon-rev needs some help
#19 [00:04] <Weecha> the registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted ... The system cannot find the file specified
#20 [00:04] <lemon-rev> ragesalim, if you just goto http://www.java.com/en/ < have you tryed that one
#21 [00:04] <RagaSalim> yeah it says i have the recommended java installed 1.7
#22 [00:04] <lemon-rev> i see
#23 [00:05] <lemon-rev> i want to see if you can download flash
#24 [00:05] <RagaSalim> ok. does minecraft use flash?
#25 [00:05] <lemon-rev> no
#26 [00:05] <Weecha> so im guessing if i can find the file minecraft normally looks through when i run it n paste it to where it used to be it can then work
#27 [00:05] <lemon-rev> but its kinda like it, i suppose
#28 [00:06] <lemon-rev> ragasalim http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
#29 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> It only uses flash for the youtube video intro on the front page
#30 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> The game itself uses java entirely
#31 [00:07] <RagaSalim> ok it tells me i need to close browser
#32 [00:07] <RagaSalim> i'll be bach
#33 [00:07] <lemon-rev> well i was just seeing if the intergration of say flash worked just as well as say java would have if the same instance
#34 [00:07] <Weecha> i just tried in browser n it still doesn't work
#35 [00:07] <lemon-rev> what you get weecha
#36 [00:08] <Weecha> i said it b4
#37 [00:08] <lemon-rev> ok
#38 [00:08] <lemon-rev> np
#39 [00:08] <lemon-rev> so you get a window at lest
#40 [00:08] <lemon-rev> least*
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#42 [00:11] <RagaSalim> i was able to install flash player
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#44 [00:13] <lemon-rev> ok, thats a plus
#45 [00:13] <lemon-rev> that worked with out fult ?
#46 [00:13] <lemon-rev> fault*
#47 [00:13] <RagaSalim> yep
#48 [00:13] <RagaSalim> what can you infer from that
#49 [00:14] <lemon-rev> ragasalim, download the .jar instead if the .exe and see if that does any better ?
#50 [00:14] <RagaSalim> where do i do that
#51 [00:14] <lemon-rev> that, basicly minecraft is still playing up on your computer and that your java should be working
#52 [00:14] <lemon-rev> on minecraft.net
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#54 [00:15] <RagaSalim> oh ok, gotcha. i always overlooked it because it said linux
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#56 [00:15] <RagaSalim> so once i have downloaded that..
#57 [00:15] <Weecha> is there a way to make java run or does normally does it by itself
#58 [00:16] <Weecha> does it*
#59 [00:16] <lemon-rev> it normally does it it self
#60 [00:16] <Weecha> cuz i think the prob is that java is not running
#61 [00:16] <lemon-rev> try and just double click it
#62 [00:16] <lemon-rev> and see if it runs
#63 [00:17] <Weecha> i tried that n run minecraft i still got the same msg
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#66 [00:19] <lemon-rev> weecha soemthing with java is playing up on your computer , if you can find instructions about how to kill java completely then reinstall i surgest you do that, but i cant help you i do not have enough knowledge to help further
#67 [00:20] <Weecha> what if i said that when i started my pc was running very slowly so i start up task manager n ended some processes
#68 [00:20] <Weecha> liek hava
#69 [00:20] <Weecha> java
#70 [00:20] <Weecha> like java*
#71 [00:20] <lemon-rev> hm
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#74 [00:20] <Weecha> so if i go in task manager n end
#75 [00:21] <lemon-rev> you could do that, or do a start / run / msconfig and do single start up libaries
#76 [00:22] <RF> Hmm, getting an interesting lag effect with 1.4, anyone else seeing that ?
#77 [00:22] <RF> It's in the traffic server->Player
#78 [00:23] <RF> and seems to be more abundant the more players nearby
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#80 [00:23] <RF> Almost like the game is throttling data per-client at a really low rate
#81 [00:23] <RF> Happens on vanilla, no-addons Server responds instantly to commands, and console lists them, but the changes aren't seen right away
#82 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah RF, it seems like the same lag from 1.3
#83 [00:27] <RagaSalim> well i'm going to call it a night. still can't get anything to happen. but thanks a bunch for the help. it is much appreciated
#84 [00:28] <RagaSalim> have a great night/day gentlemen
#85 [00:33] <Chr|s> so is 1.4 out? I haven't been around
#86 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#87 [00:34] <Chr|s> oh cool
#88 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Changelog: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#89 [00:34] <Chr|s> hows it runnin GreyVulpine
#90 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Eh, new features, not so much on bugfixes
#91 [00:34] <Chr|s> ahh
#92 [00:34] <Aska990> we now have cookies
#93 [00:34] <Aska990> \o/
#94 [00:35] <Aska990> and they are so useless
#95 [00:35] <Chr|s> cookies in game?
#96 [00:35] <bread> \o/
#97 [00:35] <Chr|s> to eat
#98 [00:36] <Aska990> yo need coco beans to craft it
#99 [00:36] <Aska990> and you found coco beans...in the dungeons
#100 [00:36] <Aska990> *find
#101 [00:36] <jercos> nomnomnomnom cookies
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#103 [00:43] <Chr|s> should be focusing on the bugs o.o
#104 [00:44] <Skudster13> a bug like say... the respawn point not reseting after you sleep?
#105 [00:45] <Skudster13> has anyone else had this issue?
#106 [00:45] <Chr|s> when did you start having it?
#107 [00:46] <Chr|s> 1.4?
#108 [00:46] <Skudster13> with the new update today. I play multiplayer on a LAN server and both were updated
#109 [00:46] <Skudster13> yes
#110 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes Skudster13
#111 [00:46] <Skudster13> it was one of the new listed features
#112 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> It's a known issue now
#113 [00:46] <Chr|s> ahh
#114 [00:46] <Skudster13> thank you, just wanted to make sure
#115 [00:46] * Chr|s adds it to buglist
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#116 [00:47] <Skudster13> another issue I was having was monsters appearing in my Temp house which was is not big and is well lit.
#117 [00:48] <Chr|s> what was it made out of?
#118 [00:48] <Skudster13> cobblestone walls and roof and a dirt/grass floor
#119 [00:48] <Skudster13> was it the floor?
#120 [00:48] <Chr|s> I have had issues with dirt temp house
#121 [00:48] <Chr|s> shouldn't be
#122 [00:49] <Chr|s> I assume you have a door and there is no way in?
#123 [00:49] <Skudster13> and by temp house it was 3x5x4 internal
#124 [00:49] <Skudster13> yup
#125 [00:49] <Chr|s> hmm
#126 [00:49] <Skudster13> even dropped some cobblestone in front of the door after the first attack
#127 [00:49] <Chr|s> im not sure
#128 [00:49] <Chr|s> brb installing updates
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#131 [00:57] <aetherian> aaahhhh
#132 [00:57] <aetherian> much better
#133 [00:57] <aetherian> back to good ol' 64 bit.
#134 [00:57] <AG_Scott> 32bit4lyfe
#135 [00:57] <aetherian> heh
#136 [00:58] <VoxelHead> =)
#137 [00:58] <bread> :D
#138 [00:58] <aetherian> 16bit4lyfe
#139 [00:58] <bread> I started using my x64 install of Slackware today
#140 [00:58] <bread> wooo
#141 [00:58] <VoxelHead> dootie!
#142 [00:58] <jercos> 128bit whoo
#143 [00:58] <aetherian> haha
#144 [00:58] <VoxelHead> *gasp* it's got chicken legs :o)
#145 [00:58] <VoxelHead> you will open your eyes... you have to breathe sometime
#146 [00:58] <bread> blimey!
#147 [00:59] <jercos> VoxelHead: fire everything at aetherian
#148 [00:59] * VoxelHead swoops in on aetherian
#148 [00:59] * VoxelHead fires the Universe Gun(tm) at aetherian
#148 [00:59] <bread> VoxelHead: courtmartial bread !
#149 [00:59] <bread> :(
#150 [00:59] <VoxelHead> Who?
#151 [00:59] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial bread
#152 [00:59] * VoxelHead downloads some porn for bread
#152 [00:59] <bread> :D
#153 [00:59] <aetherian> o.o
#154 [00:59] * VoxelHead throws bread in the brig to await charges
#154 [01:00] <jercos> VoxelHead: courtmartial bread with banzai
#155 [01:00] <VoxelHead> I'm sorry Sir, I already have someone in the brig - please try again later, or empty the Recycle Bin.
#156 [01:00] <jercos> Erm, too slow today :p
#157 [01:00] <bread> looool
#158 [01:00] <Kealper> vox, empty the recycle bin
#159 [01:00] <bread> oh no!
#160 [01:00] <Kealper> :<
#161 [01:00] <VoxelHead> Betting ends!
#162 [01:00] <VoxelHead> bread, you are charged with phase-shifting the USS Enterspace, and terraforming the USS Enterprise
#163 [01:00] <VoxelHead> r You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#164 [01:00] <jercos> VoxelHead: empty the Kealper bin
#165 [01:00] <bread> aww yeah
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#167 [01:01] * dopeghoti throws vox at jercos
#167 [01:01] <VoxelHead> Wheeee!
#168 [01:01] <aetherian> vox, eat some bread
#169 [01:01] * VoxelHead eats some bread
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#170 [01:02] <bread> :D
#171 [01:02] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#172 [01:02] <aetherian> ah, love
#173 [01:02] <Thoatt> vox, eat your own hand
#174 [01:02] * VoxelHead eats your own hand
#174 [01:03] <Thoatt> fail
#175 [01:03] <aetherian> haha
#176 [01:03] <VoxelHead> ah! ah! THE MEAT!! THE HORRIBLE MEAT##@@£~$%percent^^
#177 [01:03] <aetherian> vox, eat himself
#178 [01:03] * VoxelHead eats himself
#178 [01:03] * jercos gives VoxelHead coffee
#178 [01:03] * jercos gives VoxelHead pie
#178 [01:03] <VoxelHead> cheers
#179 [01:03] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm...
#180 [01:03] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee :)
#180 [01:03] <Thoatt> vox, eat his own hand!
#181 [01:03] <VoxelHead> :D
#182 [01:03] <VoxelHead> thanks jercos
#183 [01:03] * VoxelHead eats pie
#183 [01:03] * VoxelHead eats his own hand!
#183 [01:03] <Thoatt> lol
#184 [01:04] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#184 [01:04] <VoxelHead> Mmmm... thanks :)
#185 [01:04] <aetherian> why the heck'd I do that
#186 [01:05] <aetherian> I made a .tar.bz2.tar.gz for backing up for some reason o.o
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#188 [01:06] <Skudster13> has anyone had issues with the 128x128 texture packs not working correctly with the new update?
#189 [01:06] <dopeghoti> Skudster13: well, since there are net objects to texture, that's not surprising
#190 [01:07] <dopeghoti> go go gadget attention span
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#192 [01:08] <aetherian> whoa dope
#193 [01:08] <aetherian> that one's rare
#194 [01:08] <Kealper> lul
#195 [01:08] <dopeghoti> mm?
#196 [01:08] <Skudster13> why did I get booted?
#197 [01:08] <aetherian> you didn't
#198 [01:08] <aetherian> you DCed
#199 [01:08] <dopeghoti> [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
#200 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Skudster13 Ā«~IceChat7@71-208-47-162.hlrn.qwest.netĀ» has Quit iRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
#201 [01:08] <dopeghoti> anyhow
#202 [01:08] <dopeghoti> Skudster13: well, since there are net objects to texture, that's not surprising
#203 [01:08] <Skudster13> huh.. ok
#204 [01:09] <dopeghoti> any texture packs, especially ones that are also mods, will need to be updated for 1.4
#205 [01:09] <Skudster13> ok, I'll wait then.
#206 [01:09] <aetherian> it's the most. wonderful tiiime, of the year
#207 [01:09] <Skudster13> lol
#208 [01:09] <dopeghoti> aetherian: best. Staples ad. ever.
#209 [01:09] * Kealper sighs
#209 [01:09] <Skudster13> update time is like getting a new present
#210 [01:09] <aetherian> dopeghoti: wut
#211 [01:09] * Kealper is listening to Basshunter for some reason right now
#211 [01:10] <VoxelHead> [NP: Legendary Pink Dots - fade to pink]
#212 [01:10] <Kealper> XD
#213 [01:10] * aetherian is listening to the moody blues' album "Days of Future Passed"
#213 [01:10] <dopeghoti> aetherian: there was a Staples ad that used that song in the background as morose kids followed jubilant parents getting discounted paper, pens, folders, &c.
#214 [01:10] * dopeghoti is listening to too frelling many ads on Pandora
#214 [01:10] <VoxelHead> ooh, I like that one
#215 [01:10] <dopeghoti> you would, vox
#216 [01:10] <aetherian> dopeghoti: not that you'd believe me, but my household gets no TV
#217 [01:11] <aetherian> :|
#218 [01:11] <Kealper> lol
#219 [01:11] <dopeghoti> aetherian: I believe you
#220 [01:11] <Kealper> o.o
#221 [01:11] * Thoatt is listening to Organ Donor by DJ Shadow
#221 [01:11] <VoxelHead> [NP: Strapping Young Lad - Untitled Track 34]
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#223 [01:11] <fester> my minecraft crashes after the mojang screen after this new patch
#224 [01:11] <aetherian> thankfully, we have a television for games
#225 [01:11] <VoxelHead> master?
#226 [01:11] <aetherian> and movies
#227 [01:11] <Skudster13> somebody been watching a few farscape episodes lately?
#228 [01:11] <aetherian> yes vox?
#229 [01:11] <VoxelHead> sunday
#230 [01:11] <fester> any idea why it crashes?
#231 [01:11] <Thoatt> Honestly, if I lived alone, i'd probably not get tv either...
#232 [01:11] <Kealper> Untitled Track 34......vox you pirate >.>
#233 [01:11] <Thoatt> I never, ever watch it.
#234 [01:11] <Kealper> ^
#235 [01:11] <dopeghoti> fester: uninstall and mods and see if it happens with a vanilla game
#236 [01:12] <dopeghoti> any mods, even
#237 [01:12] <aetherian> crap, this is what I get for compiling all my backed up compiled files into one, with multiple steps
#238 [01:12] <aetherian> epic recursion
#239 [01:12] <Thoatt> "You got an organ going there. No wonder the sound has so much body." :D
#240 [01:12] <Skudster13> with all the shows you can watch on hulu, netflix, and the abc/nbc/fox websites.. why would you need tv if you have an internet connection?
#241 [01:12] <Thoatt> exactly Skudster13 lol
#242 [01:12] * Kealper queues Organ Donor up next
#242 [01:12] <Thoatt> I mean... MAYBE... if I had a dvr..
#243 [01:13] <aetherian> Skudster13: because my internet is crappy during the day on wifi
#244 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#245 [01:13] <Thoatt> there are some shows that I like that I can't get online >.>
#246 [01:13] <Skudster13> good point
#247 [01:13] <aetherian> Thoatt: you can get anything online
#248 [01:13] <Thoatt> nope...
#249 [01:13] <aetherian> just not always legally
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#251 [01:13] <Skudster13> you can't get them yet...
#252 [01:13] <Skudster13> rofl
#253 [01:13] <Kealper> you can't download a car
#254 [01:13] <aetherian> much as I have tried, I haven't been able to download a life :(
#255 [01:13] * Kealper downloads gainful employment
#255 [01:13] <Thoatt> aetherian: Go ahead and find me the latest episodes of Holmes Inspection then :)
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#258 [01:14] <Skudster13> good luck with that one Kealper
#259 [01:14] <Kealper> Skudster13: :P
#260 [01:14] <Skudster13> unless you can remotely work the fry machines... I think you're sol
#261 [01:14] <dopeghoti> Kealper is not the sun.
#262 [01:14] <Skudster13> S.O.L.
#263 [01:14] <Skudster13> :P
#264 [01:14] <aetherian> Skudster13: set up a macro
#265 [01:15] <aetherian> :D
#266 [01:15] <VoxelHead> :-)
#267 [01:15] <dopeghoti> I would totally download a car if I could
#268 [01:15] <dopeghoti> (and I could also download fuel)
#269 [01:15] <aetherian> I'd pirate a car :o
#270 [01:15] <aetherian> I'd pirate a ship if I could
#271 [01:15] <Kealper> yarrr
#272 [01:15] <aetherian> yo
#273 [01:15] <Thoatt> YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A BOAT
#274 [01:15] <Skudster13> sadly, I think you could program a computer to work fries by itself and have it more effective than half the mcdonalds employees out there lol
#275 [01:15] <aetherian> (hoho)
#276 [01:16] <Thoatt> Fuck yes I would! I'M ON A BOAT
#277 [01:16] <Kealper> Skudster13: +1
#278 [01:16] <Thoatt> *adds to queue*
#279 [01:16] <aetherian> fake gangster + santa = pirate
#280 [01:16] <aetherian> yo hohoho
#281 [01:16] * Kealper adds Boombox and I'm On A Boat to queue
#281 [01:16] <Skudster13> nice one Aeth
#282 [01:16] * aetherian is listening to moody blues, still
#282 [01:16] <Kealper> after Botan Anna...because that song is awesome in a weird way
#283 [01:16] <Kealper> Boten*
#284 [01:16] <Thoatt> *adds The Prodigy - Omen to queue*
#285 [01:16] <aetherian> moody blues for win >:
#286 [01:18] <Thoatt> amazing enough... I have some moody blues...
#287 [01:18] <Thoatt> that I didn't know about..
#288 [01:18] <Thoatt> YAR HAR
#289 [01:18] <Thoatt> lol
#290 [01:18] <aetherian> do you have their first (technically second, but who cares) album?
#291 [01:18] <VoxelHead> The best kind of second.
#292 [01:18] <aetherian> Days of Future Passed :D
#293 [01:18] <Thoatt> nope. lol
#294 [01:18] <Kealper> VoxelHead: technically good.
#295 [01:18] <Thoatt> I have like... one of thier songs
#296 [01:18] <VoxelHead> The best kind of good.
#297 [01:18] <Thoatt> their*
#298 [01:18] <Kealper> lol
#299 [01:19] <aetherian> what song
#300 [01:19] <aetherian> a question of balance?
#301 [01:19] <Thoatt> Your Wildest Dreams
#302 [01:19] <aetherian> hmm
#303 [01:19] <Thoatt> from Lovely To See You Tonight.
#304 [01:19] <Thoatt> I also have Nights In White Satin, from Moody Blues. lol
#305 [01:20] <aetherian> I know a good song by the title Wildest Dreams
#306 [01:20] <aetherian> oh, now that's a good song
#307 [01:20] <aetherian> night in white satin
#308 [01:20] <Thoatt> also, a Whiter Shade of Pale
#309 [01:20] <Kealper> ^
#310 [01:20] <aetherian> but, ah, it's sacrilege to have it alone D:<
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#312 [01:20] <aetherian> you have to have the whole album for this kind of thing D:
#313 [01:20] <Sandra> join #mcchatter
#314 [01:20] <Thoatt> fail lol
#315 [01:20] <aetherian> already in there, thanks
#316 [01:21] <Sandra> Blargh.
#317 [01:21] <Sandra> Fail indeed.
#318 [01:21] * Thoatt adds a few more songs to the playlist
#318 [01:22] * Thoatt thinks about starting up the stream if anyone is interested :D
#318 [01:22] <aetherian> what stream
#319 [01:22] <Thoatt> streaming radio lol
#320 [01:22] <aetherian> what the hey, I need something to listen to
#321 [01:23] <Thoatt> I'm a DJ / run all the tech stuff for a shoutcast host provider. lol
#322 [01:23] <Thoatt> I even made a sidebar gadget for it :D
#323 [01:23] <aetherian> here I thought you were a human
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#325 [01:23] <Thoatt> lol.. never!
#326 [01:23] <aetherian> *badum tisch*
#327 [01:24] <Thoatt> ok well...
#328 [01:24] <Thoatt> to get the sidebar gadget: http://txrn.net/gadget/
#329 [01:24] <Thoatt> or, to just listen to the stream: http://txrn.net:8000/listen.pls
#330 [01:24] <Thoatt> I'll start streaming in a second
#331 [01:25] <aetherian> no begging
#332 [01:25] <aetherian> *badum tisch*
#333 [01:25] <aetherian> get it :o
#334 [01:25] <Thoatt> k, started :D
#335 [01:25] <aetherian> listen.pls, oh man, I'm on a roll
#336 [01:25] <Thoatt> yeah I got it lol
#337 [01:25] <aetherian> I'm missing a plugin
#338 [01:25] <aetherian> hang on
#339 [01:25] <Thoatt> The sidebar gadget is FAR cooler than just the listten.pls, but you can listen anyway you want
#340 [01:26] <aetherian> probably the gstreamer extra plugins, for playing mp3, etc
#341 [01:26] <aetherian> right?
#342 [01:26] <Thoatt> there is also http://txrn.net/radioplayer.php
#343 [01:26] <Thoatt> huh? lol
#344 [01:27] <aetherian> not working, I'll just get the plugin
#345 [01:27] <Thoatt> just use the gadget lol
#346 [01:27] <aetherian> it'll be a bit, it's 3rd or 4th in queue
#347 [01:27] <Thoatt> I also accept requests as well
#348 [01:28] <aetherian> the .php won't play for me :|
#349 [01:28] <aetherian> wait
#350 [01:28] <Thoatt> try a different plugin
#351 [01:28] <aetherian> it may be my sound, I've had problems before
#352 [01:28] <Thoatt> lol
#353 [01:28] <Thoatt> also... it's 128 kb/s so if you have crappy internet, gtfo lol
#354 [01:28] <Thoatt> just open the .pls file in any media player lol
#355 [01:29] <aetherian> I have high dsl
#356 [01:29] <Thoatt> ok xD
#357 [01:29] <aetherian> but
#358 [01:29] <aetherian> the .pls says I'm missing a gstreamer plugin, what format is it streaming?
#359 [01:29] <Thoatt> mp3
#360 [01:29] <aetherian> yeah, that plugin is in the queue
#361 [01:29] <aetherian> it'll be a bit
#362 [01:30] <Thoatt> one sec, I also have icecast hosting, so gimmie a sec and I can do oggvorbis, or pretty much any other format/bitrate you need lol
#363 [01:32] <Thoatt> poop... I forgot the password for the second stream server... sec
#364 [01:33] <aetherian> it's okay
#365 [01:33] <aetherian> I would need the plugin anyway
#366 [01:33] <Thoatt> are you on linux or windows?
#367 [01:33] <aetherian> LINUX
#368 [01:33] <Thoatt> Then I should be able to start up a vorbis stream...
#369 [01:33] <aetherian> I just did another install for... reasons a couple hours ago
#370 [01:34] <aetherian> it really is okay
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#372 [01:37] <Sandra> Must resist urge to ask how to mine for fish.
#373 [01:37] <Thoatt> psh.. I mine for porkchops every day!
#374 [01:37] <Kealper> HEY GUYS HOW I MINE FISH
#375 [01:37] <Kealper> ???????????
#376 [01:38] <Thoatt> /leaves
#377 [01:38] <Kealper> lol
#378 [01:38] <aetherian> O gis how i mine 4 fish plox
#379 [01:38] <Sandra> Teehee!
#380 [01:38] <Sandra> SPARE MONIES FOR A NOOB?
#381 [01:38] <aetherian> omg plz help meh pl0x
#382 [01:38] <Kealper> oh gosh
#383 [01:39] <Kealper> just got taken back to every single MMO ever
#384 [01:39] <aetherian> or in some MMOs
#385 [01:39] <aetherian> can i haz fletch ur fire
#386 [01:39] * Sandra giggles.
#386 [01:39] <aetherian> and the all encompasser
#387 [01:39] <aetherian> dancing for moneyz pl0x
#388 [01:39] <Sandra> Thoatt, Funnily enough - it was attacking a horde of pigs for porkinchops that made me think of it. ^^
#389 [01:40] <dopeghoti> 'pl0x'?
#390 [01:40] <aetherian> yes pl0x
#391 [01:40] <Sandra> Awww, a creeper came to tell me that I have a really nice house.
#392 [01:40] <Sandra> But he got nervous.
#393 [01:40] <aetherian> Thoatt: I'm listening to it now
#394 [01:40] <aetherian> kansas :D
#395 [01:40] <Thoatt> ok cool :D
#396 [01:41] <Thoatt> Lemme know if anyone has any requests
#397 [01:41] <Kealper> i'm fine lol, any sound is better than silence
#398 [01:41] <Sandra> Oh! Oh! ...now I want bacon.
#399 [01:41] <aetherian> Thoatt: I have an order
#400 [01:42] <aetherian> I'd like a cheeseburger, small fries, and a diet coke
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#402 [01:42] <aetherian> brb
#403 [01:42] <Thoatt> That'll be 3.18 at the first window.
#404 [01:44] <Sandra> ##($#(* Now i want a cheeseburger. ;_;
#405 [01:44] <VoxelHead> ~*!!@!*!!##!£*##
#406 [01:44] <Thoatt> lol
#407 [01:44] <Kealper> i'd like a Whopper, a double cheeseburger, a large fry, a strawberry shake, some nuggets....and....hell, gimme a diet pepsi....gotta maintain my figure
#408 [01:44] <Thoatt> exactly.
#409 [01:45] <AG_Scott> Kealper, = fatty.
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#411 [01:45] <Kealper> totally
#412 [01:45] <AG_Scott> you animal eater!
#413 [01:45] <relsqui> hey, skinny people can be gluttons too :P
#414 [01:45] <AG_Scott> SINFUL!
#415 [01:45] <Kealper> dope will proably laugh and cry at the same time at what i said lol
#416 [01:45] <Thoatt> They're just so damn tastey!
#417 [01:45] <relsqui> gotta be fair, yo
#418 [01:45] <AG_Scott> I don't eat enough. :/
#419 [01:45] <Kealper> AG_Scott: eat moar!
#420 [01:45] <Sandra> I'm -very- annoyed at this multiplayer business. My husband is all, "Oh I wish I had diamonds." and I'm like, "I have a meelyun of them in my house which is totally better than yours." Playing multiplayer would be awesome - except that it Doesn't. Work.
#421 [01:45] <AG_Scott> I weigh 115lbs and I'm 5 foot 8-9 inches tall.
#422 [01:45] <Sandra> Which makes me sad inside.
#423 [01:45] * Kealper eats gummi peach rings
#423 [01:45] <Sandra> ...until I forget about it.
#424 [01:45] <Kealper> holy siht
#425 [01:45] <Kealper> shit*
#426 [01:46] <Kealper> if i gained like 30lbs i'd be twice your weight >.>
#427 [01:46] <aetherian> oh sorry for holding up the drive through
#428 [01:46] <aetherian> but I'm back
#429 [01:46] <AG_Scott> lol Kealper
#430 [01:46] <AG_Scott> I'm trying to gain weight.
#431 [01:46] <Thoatt> I'm ~5'10" and weigh almost 3 times as much as you lol /fatty
#432 [01:46] <aetherian> meh, I'm not obese
#433 [01:46] <aetherian> that's good for me
#434 [01:46] <Thoatt> lol
#435 [01:47] * Sandra is a fatty.
#435 [01:47] <Kealper> are you really only 5'10"? you seem taller than me
#436 [01:47] <aetherian> as long as it's not visible on the outside :)
#437 [01:47] <Thoatt> idk... I could measure myself lol
#438 [01:47] <Kealper> because i know for a fact i'm 5'10", when i went for my military ID they measured me
#439 [01:48] <Thoatt> 5'10 & 1/4
#440 [01:48] <Sandra> ...sometimes I set trees on fire just because I like watching them burn.
#441 [01:48] <Kealper> weird
#442 [01:48] <Thoatt> my width makes my height appear moar? lol
#443 [01:48] <aetherian> psst
#444 [01:48] <Kealper> possibly
#445 [01:48] <aetherian> kealper
#446 [01:49] <Kealper> this better be the original and not my liner
#447 [01:49] <Kealper> aetherian: hmm?
#448 [01:49] <aetherian> what's the deb repository for java, anyone remember?
#449 [01:49] <Thoatt> fuck idk... lol
#450 [01:49] <aetherian> darn
#451 [01:49] <Kealper> ok, not my liner, original
#452 [01:49] <Sandra> .............
#453 [01:49] <aetherian> nobody knows?
#454 [01:49] <Sandra> Setting cows on fire is fun until they run at you.
#455 [01:50] <Thoatt> lol
#456 [01:50] <Kealper> aetherian: not i :/
#457 [01:50] <AG_Scott> aetherian, for debian or ubuntu?
#458 [01:50] <Sandra> It's all fun and games until a fiery cow runs at you.
#459 [01:50] <aetherian> buntu
#460 [01:50] <Kealper> Sandra: lol
#461 [01:50] <AG_Scott> canonical partners
#462 [01:50] <aetherian> lolbuntu, to be exact
#463 [01:50] <Kealper> nubuntu >:D
#464 [01:50] <aetherian> I have that enabled
#465 [01:50] <Sandra> Which I feel needs to be on a tshirt now.
#466 [01:50] <AG_Scott> sun-java6-jdk/jre
#467 [01:50] <Kealper> Sandra: you should totally do that
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#469 [01:51] <Thoatt> http://lolbuntu.wordpress.com/
#470 [01:51] <McPlusPlus> "lolbuntu" at lolbuntu.wordpress.com
#471 [01:51] <Kealper> have a screenshot of a flaming mc cow facing you, with that text
#472 [01:51] <AG_Scott> I want to murder this bot.
#473 [01:51] <aetherian> AG_Scott: not working
#474 [01:51] <Sandra> Kealper: Might do, might do.
#475 [01:51] <Kealper> !disable
#476 [01:51] <aetherian> not available, but referred
#477 [01:51] <AG_Scott> wait until someone links to a page with nastiness in the title or a very very very log title.
#478 [01:51] <Kealper> !enable
#479 [01:51] <AG_Scott> long*
#480 [01:51] <Thoatt> !disable
#481 [01:51] <Kealper> no idea how to disable it
#482 [01:51] <Thoatt> lol
#483 [01:51] <Thoatt> !enable
#484 [01:51] <AG_Scott> Can you just +q it?
#485 [01:52] <Kealper> i guess i could
#486 [01:52] <Thoatt> *jedi hand wave* you saw nothing...
#487 [01:52] <Thoatt> AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH
#488 [01:52] <Thoatt> wait...
#489 [01:52] <Thoatt> the fuck?
#490 [01:52] <VoxelHead> :o
#491 [01:52] <Thoatt> the fuck is this shit?
#492 [01:52] <Kealper> Omen?
#493 [01:52] <Thoatt> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#494 [01:53] <Thoatt> Not the song I wanted lol
#495 [01:53] <Kealper> meant to put Invaders Must Die? lol
#496 [01:53] <Thoatt> wait...
#497 [01:53] <Thoatt> HERP
#498 [01:53] <Thoatt> LOOOL
#499 [01:53] <Thoatt> LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
#500 [01:53] <Kealper> ?
#501 [01:53] <Thoatt> I was listening to the same song in itunes on random, and it switched songs at exactly the same time the stream did
#502 [01:53] <Thoatt> herpin' the derp
#503 [01:53] <Kealper> lol
#504 [01:54] <Thoatt> brb
#505 [01:54] <aetherian> Thoatt: nice double entendre :|
#506 [01:55] <VoxelHead> bye jonathanbloom
#507 [01:56] <Thoatt> ok back
#508 [01:56] <Thoatt> Easiest lyrics... ever...
#509 [01:56] <Thoatt> well... chorus anyways
#510 [01:57] <dopeghoti> I'd have to say the easiest lyrics I've heared were "Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom"
#511 [01:57] <dopeghoti> (which is a hit on Rock Band Fridays)
#512 [01:57] <aetherian> Thoatt: I request "somewhere over the rainbow" :DDD
#513 [01:58] <Thoatt> Easiest.. lyrics... eber, no doubt: Psychostick - Largoloquent Dithyramb
#514 [01:58] <Kealper> dog food....
#515 [01:58] <Kealper> tastes good..
#516 [01:58] <Kealper> with cheese...
#517 [01:59] <Thoatt> xD
#518 [01:59] <Kealper> or something like that
#519 [01:59] <Thoatt> yep
#520 [01:59] <aetherian> na naaa, n-n-n-na nuh na, naa n- katamari damacy
#521 [01:59] <Thoatt> aetherian: it's up next
#522 [01:59] <aetherian> Thoatt: heh, sarcasm ftw
#523 [01:59] <Thoatt> ....
#524 [01:59] <aetherian> it's a good song though ;o
#525 [01:59] <Thoatt> ....
#526 [01:59] <aetherian> what
#527 [01:59] <aetherian> don't hate D:
#528 [01:59] <Kealper> lol
#529 [01:59] <Thoatt> I have a boatload of music... don't request a song unless you actually want it. lol
#530 [01:59] <Thoatt> because it on;y takes a second to add it to the queue
#531 [01:59] <Thoatt> lol
#532 [01:59] <aetherian> oh, this song may be something different anyway
#533 [02:00] <aetherian> I'm a big fan of the version sung by dorothy :)
#534 [02:00] <aetherian> well, this is certainly different than raise a little hell
#535 [02:00] <aetherian> <3
#536 [02:01] <Thoatt> lool
#537 [02:01] <aetherian> I know another good song
#538 [02:01] <Thoatt> The show is called "Thoatt's Random Crap!" for a reason :)
#539 [02:01] <aetherian> the sun will come out tomorrow, anyone ;)
#540 [02:02] <Thoatt> ....
#541 [02:02] <Thoatt> did you actually want me to play it?
#542 [02:02] <Thoatt> yes, or no... lol
#543 [02:03] <Thoatt> ok well... It's in the queue... so lemme know if you don't want to hear it...
#544 [02:03] <aetherian> I wouldn't protest, but you can mainly ignore me when I call for songs like somewhere over the rainbow and little orphan annie songs
#545 [02:04] <aetherian> this song is dedicated to kealper
#546 [02:04] <Thoatt> I've seriously, in one show, played death metal, rock, country, bluegrass, rap, dubstep, techno, punk, and blues... just based on requests...
#547 [02:05] <Kealper> random crap ftw!
#548 [02:05] <aetherian> and whatever this genre is o.o
#549 [02:05] <aetherian> random ftw though :D
#550 [02:05] <Thoatt> Showtunes I suppose..
#551 [02:05] <Kealper> uhh...this is broadway, isn't it?
#552 [02:05] <Thoatt> I think
#553 [02:05] <Kealper> oh, showtunes could be too
#554 [02:05] <aetherian> sounds right
#555 [02:05] <Thoatt> wait no..
#556 [02:06] <Thoatt> it's from the movie lol
#557 [02:06] <Thoatt> it's also a broadway play, but the movie came first
#558 [02:06] <aetherian> everyone knows that this movie has the best soundtrack >:
#559 [02:06] <Thoatt> :D
#560 [02:06] <Thoatt> damn straight.
#561 [02:06] <VoxelHead> :)
#562 [02:06] <aetherian> you're never fully dressed without a smile :D
#563 [02:06] <Thoatt> Followed closely by The Sound Of Music.
#564 [02:06] <aetherian> I need to watch that again
#565 [02:06] <aetherian> been ages
#566 [02:06] <Thoatt> hard switch ftl
#567 [02:07] <aetherian> hey thoatt
#568 [02:07] <aetherian> I think it's broken
#569 [02:07] <Thoatt> yes? lol
#570 [02:07] <Thoatt> what is?
#571 [02:07] <aetherian> the bells
#572 [02:07] <aetherian> heh
#573 [02:07] <Thoatt> ahh... I heard that..
#574 [02:07] <Thoatt> You know what else I heard?
#575 [02:07] <Thoatt> News of a certain... avian variety?
#576 [02:07] <aetherian> uhh
#577 [02:07] <aetherian> unicorns :D
#578 [02:08] <Thoatt> :)
#579 [02:08] <aetherian> oh god
#580 [02:08] <Thoatt> lol
#581 [02:08] <Thoatt> loool
#582 [02:08] * aetherian facepalms
#582 [02:08] <Thoatt> xDD
#583 [02:08] <aetherian> last time I references this song to someone, you know what they said?
#584 [02:08] <Thoatt> I was under the impression that everyone had heard...
#585 [02:08] <aetherian> something very very similiar to "oh, the song from family guy"
#586 [02:09] <Thoatt> looooool
#587 [02:09] <Thoatt> Trashmen > Family Guy
#588 [02:09] <aetherian> brb
#589 [02:14] <Sandra> OH HEY KEALPER
#590 [02:15] <Kealper> o.o
#591 [02:16] <aetherian> test
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#593 [02:17] <Thoatt> Is this random enough for you aetherian? :)
#594 [02:17] <Sandra> Kealper, I totally made it. http://www.bead-bug.com/wp-content/gallery/unrelatedimages/fierycow.jpg
#595 [02:18] <aetherian> Thoatt: not quite
#596 [02:18] <aetherian> ::
#597 [02:18] <Sandra> ANGRY COW IS ANGRY
#598 [02:18] <Thoatt> Sandra: That's badass
#599 [02:18] <aetherian> hahaha
#600 [02:18] <Sandra> :D Now to order one!
#601 [02:19] <aetherian> not the cow D:
#602 [02:19] <Thoatt> aetherian: I don't want to play music at the wide end of the spectrum... I don't want to scare you off :D
#603 [02:19] <aetherian> Thoatt: it'd take a lot to scare me off, trust me
#604 [02:19] <aetherian> I want a shirt that says...
#605 [02:19] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/5arcb.jpg
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#607 [02:20] <Thoatt> next song after this. lol
#608 [02:20] <aetherian> "/mode +b *!*@*"
#609 [02:20] <aetherian> :D
#610 [02:20] <VoxelHead> :o)
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#612 [02:21] <Sandra> Boo, I'ma order it from a different site. I wanted to make it into a onesie for my kid.
#613 [02:21] <aetherian> haha
#614 [02:21] <VoxelHead> who *are* you people
#615 [02:22] <Aska990> what happens if I try to run an 1.3_01 mod with the 1.4 version of Minecraft ?
#616 [02:22] <dopeghoti> best case, it worsk
#617 [02:22] <Sandra> YOU EXPLODE
#618 [02:22] <dopeghoti> works*
#619 [02:22] <dopeghoti> probable case: crashed, world corruption, or other silliness
#620 [02:22] <Thoatt> there you go aetherian, somewhat more towards teh edge :P
#621 [02:22] <Thoatt> the*
#622 [02:22] <aetherian> heh
#623 [02:23] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#624 [02:23] <Kealper> pretty sure that drove straight off the edge lol
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#626 [02:23] <Aska990> hum, saving my world before trying
#627 [02:23] <Thoatt> oloool
#628 [02:23] <Thoatt> next song... is everyone's favorite!
#629 [02:24] <Thoatt> ... HUGE genre swing.. will be huge...
#630 [02:24] <Thoatt> I'd lol so hard if the fade works well
#631 [02:24] <Thoatt> gnight Shnaw|Sleep :)
#632 [02:25] <aetherian> I'm gonna miss some probs
#633 [02:25] <aetherian> I gotta restart soon
#634 [02:26] <Thoatt> loooooooool
#635 [02:26] <Kealper> that
#636 [02:26] <Thoatt> that... worked...
#637 [02:26] <Kealper> actually kinda worked lol
#638 [02:26] <Kealper> lol
#639 [02:26] <Thoatt> loool
#640 [02:26] <Kealper> thing song is growing on me ._.
#641 [02:26] <Thoatt> ogawd no...
#642 [02:26] <Thoatt> MUST REPLACE WITH WORSE SONG.
#643 [02:26] <aetherian> FAIL SONG
#644 [02:27] * aetherian stabs thoatt's eye, tears it out, shoves it down his throat, then kicks him down into a big pit with spikes
#644 [02:27] <aetherian> D:<
#645 [02:27] <Thoatt> don't worry... somewhere soon will be.. an even BETTER SONG!
#646 [02:27] <aetherian> I think I'll be restarting soon then
#647 [02:27] <Thoatt> lol
#648 [02:27] <Thoatt> xD
#649 [02:27] <Thoatt> scaring you off eh
#650 [02:27] <Thoatt> ?
#651 [02:27] <aetherian> no, I have like 50 system updates
#652 [02:27] <Sandra> :D Tshirt ordered! ^_^
#653 [02:28] <aetherian> *had
#654 [02:28] <Thoatt> you're running linux... why are you restarting...
#655 [02:28] <aetherian> Thoatt: I just did a fresh install
#656 [02:28] <Thoatt> and?
#657 [02:28] <aetherian> these things take restarts
#658 [02:28] <Thoatt> nope lol
#659 [02:28] <aetherian> to install all the updates
#660 [02:28] <Thoatt> you should have pimped it so you don't need a restart lol
#661 [02:28] <aetherian> look, it tells me to restart, I restart.
#662 [02:28] <aetherian> obey the machine
#663 [02:28] <Thoatt> lol
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#665 [02:29] <Kealper> yay! real music!
#666 [02:29] <Thoatt> another... halfway working fade with a huge genre switch lol
#667 [02:29] <aetherian> what where
#668 [02:30] <Thoatt> Don't worry.... soon..
#669 [02:30] <Thoatt> soon you all will stop listening lol
#670 [02:30] <Kealper> i won't....others might
#671 [02:30] <Kealper> lol
#672 [02:30] <Thoatt> Oh.... You'd be damn tempted to quit listening.
#673 [02:30] <Kealper> challenge accepted
#674 [02:30] <Thoatt> lol
#675 [02:31] <Thoatt> It's a shitty song... catchy, but shitty...
#676 [02:32] <Thoatt> The Prodigy, A Mystery artist, Cake, and Dio are all up next :D
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#678 [02:32] <aetherian> it's playing again
#679 [02:33] <Thoatt> k lol
#680 [02:33] <Thoatt> nice restart times btw...
#681 [02:33] <Thoatt> ssd?
#682 [02:33] <aetherian> I coulda made it faster
#683 [02:33] <Sandra> My laptop DOES NOT LIKE Minecraft, Photoshpo CS5, Vuze and Firefox running at the same time.
#684 [02:33] <aetherian> I waited to start any applications
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#686 [02:33] <relsqui> funny that
#687 [02:33] <aetherian> and no ssd
#688 [02:33] <Thoatt> Sandra: Get a better computer.
#689 [02:33] <Thoatt> :)
#690 [02:33] <Kealper> inb4 he has irssi starting before his DE even starts
#691 [02:33] <VoxelHead> -_-
#692 [02:33] <aetherian> I wish I had an ssd for this laptop ;_;
#693 [02:34] <aetherian> andno, kealper
#694 [02:34] <aetherian> xchat I use for now
#695 [02:34] <Thoatt> lol Kealper
#696 [02:34] <Thoatt> that's a good idea though lol
#697 [02:34] <relsqui> heh
#698 [02:34] <Sandra> Thaott: Sure. Send me money. :P
#699 [02:34] <relsqui> why would you run irssi on the local machine?
#700 [02:34] <Sandra> This isn't exactly an utterly crappy laptop.
#701 [02:34] <relsqui> that's what remote servers and screen are for :)
#702 [02:34] <Sandra> It's not top of the line but it's not crappy.
#703 [02:34] <Thoatt> I would... but you spelt my name incorrectly and hurt mah feelings ._.
#704 [02:35] <Sandra> *Thoatt
#705 [02:35] <Thoatt> damage has been done..
#706 [02:35] <Kealper> Sandra: type th and press the tab key :P
#707 [02:35] <Thoatt> *sob*
#708 [02:35] * Sandra :Ps at Kealper
#708 [02:35] <aetherian> toahtt
#709 [02:35] <Sandra> Kealper, I met my husband on IRC 10 years ago. I know how to tab-complete.
#710 [02:35] <aetherian> oh dot oh
#711 [02:35] <Kealper> i had a feeling you were female :P
#712 [02:35] <relsqui> and yet. :)
#713 [02:36] <Sandra> I do has the boobies.
#714 [02:36] <aetherian> Kealper: what tipped you off, the name?
#715 [02:36] <relsqui> not just any, but THE boobies
#716 [02:36] <Thoatt> that doesn't make you female...
#717 [02:36] <Thoatt> lol
#718 [02:36] <Kealper> aetherian: the way Sandra typed
#719 [02:36] <Sandra> I has the ovaries?
#720 [02:36] <AG_Scott> I know plenty of guys with boobies.
#721 [02:36] <aetherian> ah
#722 [02:36] <relsqui> it's true. neither does the nick. nor the husband. but if she says she is, that's good enough :P
#723 [02:36] <Kealper> aetherian: i take no heed of a person's name online
#724 [02:36] <Kealper> aetherian: rule 37
#725 [02:36] <AG_Scott> Most are Americans or traps.
#726 [02:36] <aetherian> Kealper: name + typing
#727 [02:36] <aetherian> wait
#728 [02:36] <aetherian> what is with the way she typed that tipped you off
#729 [02:37] <Thoatt> exactly kealper...
#730 [02:37] <Kealper> lots of little cues lol, i pay attention to those things :p
#731 [02:37] <Kealper> :o*
#732 [02:37] <aetherian> o.o kealper
#733 [02:37] * aetherian is beyond confused, but whatever
#733 [02:37] <Thoatt> The Internet: Where the men are men, the women are men, and the boys are the FBI.
#734 [02:37] <relsqui> heh. as long as you don't rely on 'em too much :)
#735 [02:37] <Kealper> Thoatt: eactly.
#736 [02:37] <Kealper> exactly*
#737 [02:38] <aetherian> too tired to care about what gender anyone is
#738 [02:38] <Kealper> relsqui: meh, i tend to be pretty good at it lol
#739 [02:38] <Thoatt> No need to wonder... Rule 37...
#740 [02:38] <relsqui> sure
#741 [02:38] <Kealper> aetherian: it generally helps, as to not offend someone :/
#742 [02:38] <Thoatt> AWWWW YEAH!
#743 [02:38] <Kealper> Thoatt: go burn
#744 [02:38] <relsqui> heh
#745 [02:38] <Thoatt> DIS IS MAH JAMS BRO
#746 [02:38] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#747 [02:38] <relsqui> oh right, some people are offended by that >_>
#748 [02:38] <aetherian> Kealper: I find it tends to work just to treat everyone the same on irc
#749 [02:39] <Kealper> aetherian: meh
#750 [02:39] * relsqui doesn't dislike any gender enough to be offended by being mistaken for it
#750 [02:39] <aetherian> relsqui: okay miss
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#752 [02:39] <Aska990> tried to install the v 1.3 of the "planes" mod, on the v 1.4 of Minecraft
#753 [02:39] <Aska990> BSOD
#754 [02:39] <relsqui> <_< it's funny because aetherian assumes I'm a dude
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#756 [02:39] <Aska990> Black Screen OF Death
#757 [02:39] <aetherian> I never said that relsqui
#758 [02:39] <Thoatt> fun fun!
#759 [02:39] <relsqui> it's true, you didn't :)
#760 [02:40] <Kealper> Aska990: yes, that is what happens when you install mods the wrong version lol
#761 [02:40] <Kealper> Aska990: i take it you want to know how to fix it?
#762 [02:40] <Thoatt> relsqui: I assume you are Fizz?
#763 [02:40] <aetherian> half the time my sarcasm is missed for honesty, and honesty for sarcasm
#764 [02:40] <relsqui> I am.
#765 [02:40] <aetherian> but which half is which
#766 [02:40] <Thoatt> xD
#767 [02:40] <Phenex> Anyone familiar with Ubuntu? I am a first time user and trying to install JAva
#768 [02:40] <Aska990> yep
#769 [02:40] <aetherian> Phenex: yeah
#770 [02:40] <Thoatt> Phenex: yes
#771 [02:41] <relsqui> congratulations, you can use /whois :P
#772 [02:41] <Phenex> help? :)
#773 [02:41] <Kealper> Aska990: run the launcher, where you would normally click login, click Options
#774 [02:41] <Thoatt> I can?
#775 [02:41] <Phenex> Excellent
#776 [02:41] <aetherian> omigodhax, relsqui
#777 [02:41] <relsqui> well, that was the easy way to get my name from my nick
#778 [02:41] <Kealper> Aska990: click the thing to force files to redownload, click out of that options window, log in normally
#779 [02:41] <relsqui> if you used something more circuitous that's fine too
#780 [02:41] <Thoatt> No Ms. Ellis, I did not use /whois.
#781 [02:42] <Aska990> thanks Kealper ; )
#782 [02:42] <relsqui> god, are we really going to play the "try to freak me out by knowing public info" game?
#783 [02:42] <Thoatt> No?
#784 [02:42] <Thoatt> lol
#785 [02:42] <Aska990> Phenex : you want to install Java on Ubuntu, that's it ?
#786 [02:42] <Phenex> yes, so I can minecraft
#787 [02:43] <Phenex> I just freshly installed Ubuntu
#788 [02:43] <aetherian> the heck kind of song is this .-.
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#790 [02:43] <Kealper> the best one
#791 [02:43] <Aska990> open Applications->Ubuntu Software
#792 [02:43] <Aska990> (I got Ubuntu in French, but I think it's the name in English)
#793 [02:44] <Phenex> continue?
#794 [02:44] <Aska990> type "Java" in the top right corner
#795 [02:45] <Thoatt> Phenex:
#796 [02:45] <Thoatt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
#797 [02:45] <Thoatt> lol
#798 [02:45] <Phenex> openjdk java?
#799 [02:45] <Thoatt> no
#800 [02:45] <Thoatt> java-6-sun
#801 [02:45] <aetherian> I thought it was sun-java6
#802 [02:45] <aetherian> hmm
#803 [02:45] <Thoatt> either
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#805 [02:46] <Aska990> I use OpenJDK
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#808 [02:47] <Thoatt> Phenex: I'll pm you lol
#809 [02:47] <Aska990> woops sorry
#810 [02:47] <VoxelHead> dootie!
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#812 [02:48] <Sandra> Blargh.
#813 [02:49] <Aska990> Phenex : to run the minecraft.jar file with java on Ubuntu, right click -> properties, "mark the file as an executable"
#814 [02:49] <Sandra> Chopped firewood, have dead arms. x.x
#815 [02:49] <VoxelHead> Wooo... I like destroying.
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#817 [02:49] <ubiquality> hi
#818 [02:50] * VoxelHead is away: auto-away
#818 [02:50] <Aska990> and if you use OpenJDK, right-click again, "Open with OpenJDK Java 6 runtime"
#819 [02:50] <aetherian> thoatt, I request lighter music :|
#820 [02:51] <Thoatt> ... any artist in particular?
#821 [02:51] <aetherian> no
#822 [02:51] <aetherian> I prefer to tick off djs by giving a vague request
#823 [02:51] <ubiquality> Does anyone can tell me where can I check my key is legal? I fear that it is not.
#824 [02:52] <aetherian> what do you mean
#825 [02:52] <Thoatt> ubiquality: What is your minecraft name?
#826 [02:52] <ubiquality> I bought the key for auction.
#827 [02:52] <ubiquality> my minecraft name is ubiquality
#828 [02:52] <Thoatt> !paid ubiquality
#829 [02:52] <Thoatt> Yep
#830 [02:52] <Thoatt> It's legit
#831 [02:53] <mohawk> !tpaid Thoatt
#832 [02:53] <ubiquality> wait. But i not activated this key,
#833 [02:53] <Thoatt> oh... herp.
#834 [02:53] <Thoatt> lol
#835 [02:53] <Thoatt> just uhh....
#836 [02:53] <Thoatt> try it?
#837 [02:53] <aetherian> de derp de diddly erp
#838 [02:56] <ubiquality> i bought the key at the auction, but i waiting for key so long, so i buy another on official site. (this one is paid i know). but i would like to check if this one, that i bought on auction is legal, because auction is canceled, and there was some negative comments that the seller is cheating
#839 [02:57] <ubiquality> i suspect that this key was generated by free generator
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#841 [03:02] <ubiquality> can you help me guys
#842 [03:03] <RF> I don't have a psychiatry qualification, sorry
#843 [03:03] <AG_Scott> That's rude.
#844 [03:04] <AG_Scott> ubiquality, so to be clear, you bought a gift code somewhere and it doesn't work?
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#846 [03:05] <Thoatt> ubiquality: Why not just try it?
#847 [03:05] <ubiquality> i don't know is this key working or not, because i don't want activate them. i want resell this code. but i want to make sure it is legal
#848 [03:05] <Thoatt> on an account you want to active ofc.
#849 [03:06] <Thoatt> ahh
#850 [03:06] <AG_Scott> Well in that case, I would suggest you email payment@mojang.com and ask (don't forget to include the gift code).
#851 [03:06] <Thoatt> ^ +1
#852 [03:07] <ubiquality> ok thanks guys:)
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#856 [03:14] <aetherian> <3 thoatt
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#860 [03:20] <TeufTeuferson> hey folks
#861 [03:20] <Kealper> ello
#862 [03:20] <TeufTeuferson> my friend and i are trying to set up a server for just a few people
#863 [03:20] <TeufTeuferson> and he accidentally made a survival
#864 [03:21] <TeufTeuferson> instead of a creative
#865 [03:21] <TeufTeuferson> like we wanted
#866 [03:21] <TeufTeuferson> is there an easy way to change it, or is it stuck at survival
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#868 [03:22] <Kealper> everything he downloaded has to be deleted and the correct version must be downloaded :/
#869 [03:22] <TeufTeuferson> easy enough i guess
#870 [03:22] <TeufTeuferson> will he be charged again?
#871 [03:22] <Kealper> charged?
#872 [03:22] <Kealper> the server software is free o.o
#873 [03:22] <TeufTeuferson> i think he paid 3 bucks for a server
#874 [03:22] <TeufTeuferson> oh
#875 [03:22] <Kealper> OH
#876 [03:22] <TeufTeuferson> well he is dumb...
#877 [03:23] <Kealper> he is renting from a place?
#878 [03:23] <TeufTeuferson> i guess
#879 [03:23] <TeufTeuferson> we are both using laptops
#880 [03:23] <Kealper> he'll have to get in contact with the company he bought the server from and ask them to switch it from beta to classic
#881 [03:23] <TeufTeuferson> not good server material
#882 [03:23] <TeufTeuferson> so yeah
#883 [03:24] <TeufTeuferson> got it
#884 [03:24] <TeufTeuferson> great that helps a lot!
#885 [03:24] <TeufTeuferson> thanks
#886 [03:24] <Kealper> np lol
#887 [03:25] <TeufTeuferson> I finally shelled out 20 bucks for the beta last week
#888 [03:25] <TeufTeuferson> ive been playing cheapskate for like 6 months
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#890 [03:26] <Espeon> Vox, fire everything at Padmay
#891 [03:26] <Kealper> why not just play the beta one then? or do your friends not have beta?
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#893 [03:26] <Espeon> Dammit Voxel
#894 [03:26] <TeufTeuferson> yeah, most of us
#895 [03:26] <TeufTeuferson> but we just wanted creative
#896 [03:26] <Kealper> ahh lol
#897 [03:26] <TeufTeuferson> cuz we're lazy
#898 [03:27] <TeufTeuferson> when i get my tower back in working order, i plan on hosting a beta server but till then
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#900 [03:29] <nupanick> !check
#901 [03:30] <nupanick> darn
#902 [03:30] <nupanick> !check 129.21.69.8
#903 [03:30] <Kealper> .edu....you can almost never forward ports at universities :/
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#905 [03:31] <nupanick> I've been told by someone who's done it that you can forward ports at RIT as long as you're plugged into a wall socket instead of using wifi
#906 [03:31] <Kealper> did you actually get in to the router config and apply it?
#907 [03:31] <nupanick> actually the port I'm trying to use is already open
#908 [03:32] <nupanick> I'm just not connecting right for some reason
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#910 [03:32] <Kealper> is it forwarded to your computer's internal IP? lol
#911 [03:33] <Kealper> also, is your server running?
#912 [03:33] <Kealper> lastly, did you touch anything in server.properties?
#913 [03:33] <nupanick> yes, yes, and no.
#914 [03:33] <Kealper> oh....no idea then
#915 [03:33] <nupanick> well I'm not sure it's forwarded actually
#916 [03:33] <nupanick> I should check
#917 [03:34] <Kealper> although...i somehow doubt it's just automagically forwarded
#918 [03:34] <Kealper> if you didn't forward it, it's not
#919 [03:34] <nupanick> yeah you're right
#920 [03:34] <nupanick> okay I'll go find out how to do that
#921 [03:34] <nupanick> thanks
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#924 [03:35] <Thoatt> ok, only 2 songs left I have to restart
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#926 [03:38] <Tasqa> hey guys
#927 [03:38] <morot221> hi
#928 [03:38] <Tasqa> anyone else having trouble to connect to minecraft.net?
#929 [03:38] <morot221> SLIME
#930 [03:38] <aetherian> thoatt D:
#931 [03:38] <Tasqa> launcher doesn't really want to login
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#933 [03:41] <Thoatt> aetherian: I restarted... thought you weren't listening
#934 [03:43] <aetherian> hum oh bacl
#935 [03:43] <aetherian> *back
#936 [03:43] <aetherian> oh well
#937 [03:43] <aetherian> back to moody blues
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#939 [03:48] <aetherian> night guys
#940 [03:48] <aetherian> big day tomorrow
#941 [03:50] * mib_50ymc6 [mib_50ymc6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#942 [03:50] <mib_50ymc6> hey anyone here?
#943 [03:50] <mib_50ymc6> helooo
#944 [03:50] <jercos> No.
#945 [03:50] <ionface> nope
#946 [03:50] <mib_50ymc6> oh.
#947 [03:51] <jercos> Ask your question.
#948 [03:51] <aetherian> mib_50ymc6: jeez, learn patience
#949 [03:51] <mib_50ymc6> okay so.
#950 [03:51] <jercos> Don't be an internet degenerate.
#951 [03:51] <mib_50ymc6> sorry man kinda butt fustrated with this
#952 [03:51] <mib_50ymc6> I haven't played MC since, 1.2 or something, so I started playing with the new patch
#953 [03:51] <mib_50ymc6> everything is cool
#954 [03:51] <aetherian> mmhmm
#955 [03:51] <mib_50ymc6> then bam black screen minecraft closes
#956 [03:52] <aetherian> you using any mods?
#957 [03:52] <ionface> are you using any Macs?
#958 [03:52] <jercos> are you using any drugs?
#959 [03:52] <mib_50ymc6> If I reload my world then the world returns into it's default form, meaning no blocks that I placed stay in their place, or caves that I mined in now misteriously have the mined out blocks back
#960 [03:52] <mib_50ymc6> nope, this is 100% vanilla
#961 [03:53] <mib_50ymc6> at the momment i am in this huge ass mountain atleast 10 layers deep.
#962 [03:53] <ionface> rollbacks and crashes, sounds familiar
#963 [03:53] <ionface> are you on windows?
#964 [03:53] <mib_50ymc6> googling came up with some old results about limiting the memory alloceted to jave to 600 mb but that seems old
#965 [03:53] <mib_50ymc6> yeah, win7 32 bit
#966 [03:53] <mib_50ymc6> also rig is med-high
#967 [03:54] <mib_50ymc6> not some lousy 10 year old laptop thing
#968 [03:54] <ionface> what's the graphics card? updated driver?
#969 [03:54] <mib_50ymc6> nvidia geforce 8600 latest driver
#970 [03:55] <mib_50ymc6> downloaded it like a week ago, because gothic 2 had some problems
#971 [03:55] <mib_50ymc6> cpu is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (2 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
#972 [03:56] <mib_50ymc6> 2048mb ram
#973 [03:57] <jercos> Have you tried copying the world to another machine?
#974 [03:57] <mib_50ymc6> I only have one computer, sorry.
#975 [03:57] <mib_50ymc6> and this happened with other worlds too.
#976 [03:57] <ionface> mib_50ymc6, did you update the old or start fresh?
#977 [03:58] <mib_50ymc6> updated ye olde
#978 [03:58] <mib_50ymc6> should I delete minecraft.jar?
#979 [03:58] <jercos> Wipe out ~/.minecraft in its entirety, and start again.
#980 [03:59] <ionface> save it for later, copy it to somewhere
#981 [03:59] <ionface> err, move it
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#983 [03:59] <Fausterion> hey
#984 [03:59] <Fausterion> question
#985 [03:59] <jercos> answer
#986 [03:59] <mib_50ymc6> okay it's dling
#987 [04:00] <Fausterion> has anyone else encountered some users unable to do anything on smp servers?
#988 [04:00] <Fausterion> some of my players cannot break blocks
#989 [04:00] <Fausterion> had to give them op just so they can do that stuff
#990 [04:00] <Fausterion> anyone know of a better solution?
#991 [04:00] <jercos> Fausterion: Did they leave the spawn area?
#992 [04:00] <relsqui> they're too close to spawn
#993 [04:00] <Fausterion> ahh ok
#994 [04:00] <jercos> Nobody but ops can edit the spawn area.
#995 [04:00] <Fausterion> ohhhhhh
#996 [04:00] <jercos> Tell them to pick a direction, and start walking :p
#997 [04:00] <Fausterion> ok
#998 [04:00] <Fausterion> I see
#999 [04:00] <Fausterion> good to know
#1000 [04:01] <jercos> I rather like to have an op level the entire spawn area, and build a one-block high "wall" around it so you can see where it ends.
#1001 [04:01] <mib_50ymc6> thats called spawn protection by the way
#1002 [04:01] <Fausterion> thanks
#1003 [04:01] <mib_50ymc6> also so far I played in full screen mode
#1004 [04:01] <mib_50ymc6> F11 one
#1005 [04:02] <mib_50ymc6> okay it's done, trying it out now
#1006 [04:02] <mib_50ymc6> I'll get back to you in like 5 minutes
#1007 [04:02] <jercos> mib_50ymc6: you might try just maximizing the window instead, but I doubt that's the issue.
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#1009 [04:02] <ionface> beta software is the issue
#1010 [04:03] <Fausterion> thanks agian for the help
#1011 [04:03] <Fausterion> have a good weekend
#1012 [04:04] <jercos> ionface: norly?
#1013 [04:04] <ionface> kinda'rly
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#1017 [04:16] <mib_50ymc6> okay
#1018 [04:16] <mib_50ymc6> it works
#1019 [04:16] <mib_50ymc6> thanks guys
#1020 [04:16] <Tasqa> hey guys
#1021 [04:16] <Tasqa> anyone else having trouble to connect to minecraft.net?
#1022 [04:17] <Tasqa> could someone help me with that?
#1023 [04:18] <jercos> No.
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#1025 [04:31] <Sandra> .............
#1026 [04:31] <Sandra> ...
#1027 [04:31] <Sandra> ......
#1028 [04:31] <Sandra> >.> http://www.bead-bug.com/wp-content/gallery/unrelatedimages/minecraftdiscoball.jpg
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#1030 [04:32] <Aska990> Oo
#1031 [04:32] <Aska990> is it a mod ?
#1032 [04:33] <Sandra> Pff, no. I just made it in Photoshop to be silly.
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#1034 [04:34] <Aska990> ok
#1035 [04:34] <Aska990> but, great idea
#1036 [04:34] * jercos sees lucy in the sky with diamonds
#1036 [04:34] <Aska990> very expensive and totally useless :D
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#1038 [04:36] <m0> Hi i have a question which is when is start minecraft nothing happens the screen is black and nothing happens
#1039 [04:36] <Sandra> I was feeling silly today. Also with the fiery cow tshirt.
#1040 [04:36] <Aska990> m0 : the black screen appears when you launch Minecraft or when you log in ?
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#1042 [04:37] <m0> after log in
#1043 [04:37] <Aska990> have you installed a mod ?
#1044 [04:37] <m0> there is the updating screen and the it is black
#1045 [04:38] <m0> no
#1046 [04:38] <Aska990> In the launcher, go in "Options", "Then force update" and log in
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#1048 [04:40] <m0> will force stands there now
#1049 [04:40] <m0> sorry my english is not so goot
#1050 [04:40] <m0> *good
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#1052 [04:46] <m0> Yes it works thx
#1053 [04:46] <Paggos> Hey
#1054 [04:46] <Paggos> i have an urgent issue
#1055 [04:47] <Paggos> someone obtained my email linked to my minecraft account and i changed my pw after he changed my mc account but i changed it back and he changed all of my email.
#1056 [04:47] <jercos> What.
#1057 [04:47] <Paggos> so im in urgent need of changing my email
#1058 [04:48] <jercos> You can't recover your email account?
#1059 [04:48] <gPad2002> Change your email password
#1060 [04:48] <gPad2002> Then change your mc password
#1061 [04:48] <Paggos> i can't, hes got me tired
#1062 [04:48] <Paggos> tied
#1063 [04:48] <gPad2002> Tied?
#1064 [04:48] <Paggos> yeah i cant login
#1065 [04:48] <jercos> Paggos: you don't have an account recovery system on your email account?
#1066 [04:48] <Paggos> or recover my email
#1067 [04:48] <Paggos> i did, but it didnt work
#1068 [04:48] <gPad2002> What email provider?
#1069 [04:48] <Paggos> idk why
#1070 [04:48] <Paggos> yahoo
#1071 [04:48] <gPad2002> Oh, that explains a lot
#1072 [04:48] <jercos> Well there's yer problem.
#1073 [04:48] <jercos> Yahoo never works. for anything.
#1074 [04:48] <gPad2002> And you didn't create a sign-in seal why?
#1075 [04:48] <Paggos> sign-in seal?
#1076 [04:49] <gPad2002> Yes..
#1077 [04:49] <gPad2002> It says it every time you log in..
#1078 [04:49] <Paggos> meh
#1079 [04:49] <Paggos> :/
#1080 [04:49] <jercos> How would a sign-in seal help?
#1081 [04:49] <Paggos> idk what to do
#1082 [04:49] <gPad2002> It locks it to your IP or cookie jar or something
#1083 [04:49] <jercos> Um, no.
#1084 [04:49] <jercos> No no no.
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#1086 [04:49] <Paggos> how could i get my email changed?
#1087 [04:49] <jercos> It just displays a differently colored custom personalized login box based on a cookie.
#1088 [04:50] <gPad2002> For yahoo?
#1089 [04:50] <jercos> it would in theory help prevent you from losing your password via phishing.
#1090 [04:50] <gPad2002> Its a advertised as a security feature
#1091 [04:50] <Paggos> or my mc account
#1092 [04:50] <jercos> But if you're an idiot, you're going to lose it anyway
#1093 [04:50] <jercos> it *is* a security feature.
#1094 [04:50] <gPad2002> Paggos: How do you know they have access to your MC?
#1095 [04:50] <jercos> Only Yahoo can display your seal, because only they know what it is.
#1096 [04:50] <gPad2002> jercos: Oh Ruhr
#1097 [04:50] <gPad2002> Right*
#1098 [04:51] <Paggos> because they changed my pw before, and i changed it back via email
#1099 [04:51] <Paggos> but right afterwords. couldnt login my email
#1100 [04:51] <Paggos> but im still logged in via minecraft
#1101 [04:51] <Paggos> now
#1102 [04:51] <gPad2002> And how did they get your pass in the first place?
#1103 [04:51] <Paggos> no ide
#1104 [04:51] <Paggos> idea
#1105 [04:51] <Paggos> doesnt help it was dumb having my pw kind of easy
#1106 [04:52] <Paggos> as in no numbers
#1107 [04:52] <jercos> You never logged into a phishing page, never had a keylogger on your computer, never used the same password anywhere else?
#1108 [04:52] <Paggos> Hm, nope. I'm not an idiot.
#1109 [04:52] <gPad2002> He probably uses the same pass on his email
#1110 [04:52] <gPad2002> Oh, k
#1111 [04:52] <gPad2002> Well, for them to get BOTH passwords
#1112 [04:52] <gPad2002> They either know you well,
#1113 [04:52] <gPad2002> Or you have a keylogger
#1114 [04:52] <jercos> Paggos: well clearly you lost your account somehow... What is the recovery email on your yahoo account?
#1115 [04:52] <gPad2002> I suggest you contact yahoo
#1116 [04:52] <jercos> Perhaps that was compromised by someone knowing your security questions?
#1117 [04:53] <Paggos> I just need an admin to change my email
#1118 [04:53] <Paggos> no more yahoo
#1119 [04:53] <Paggos> Lol
#1120 [04:53] <gPad2002> Only notch can do that
#1121 [04:53] <Paggos> fuckkkk
#1122 [04:53] <gPad2002> You need to send him an email
#1123 [04:53] <Morrolan> Paggos: You'd need to send a mail to someone at mojang.
#1124 [04:53] <gPad2002> Anyone know what that is?
#1125 [04:53] <jercos> Or maybe a tweet. :p
#1126 [04:53] <jercos> @notch HAY
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#1128 [04:53] <Morrolan> I don't know the appropriate mail address for this issue though. :/
#1129 [04:53] <gPad2002> Yeah he always has twitter open
#1130 [04:53] <DjM1zw1z> Hello?
#1131 [04:54] <jercos> Does twitter do PMs? i forget.
#1132 [04:54] <gPad2002> Yes
#1133 [04:54] <Morrolan> Paggos: Your best (and fastest) bet is to contact yahoo support I guess.
#1134 [04:54] <AG_Scott> Paggos, send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1135 [04:54] <AG_Scott> You will likely need to provide proof of payment
#1136 [04:54] <gPad2002> ^
#1137 [04:54] <gPad2002> Contact yahoo, and contact that email
#1138 [04:54] <jercos> And use a decent email system this time around :p
#1139 [04:54] <gPad2002> :P
#1140 [04:55] <AG_Scott> Include any information that will be helpful such as screenshots of the paypal transaction, bank statements, general account info, etc.
#1141 [04:55] <Paggos> LOL
#1142 [04:55] <Paggos> how could i get it back?
#1143 [04:55] <AG_Scott> oh and switch to gmail and use the sms verification for password resets
#1144 [04:55] <Paggos> my payment info?
#1145 [04:55] <gPad2002> How did you pay?
#1146 [04:55] <gPad2002> Oh right
#1147 [04:55] <gPad2002> Its in your email
#1148 [04:55] <Paggos> ;/
#1149 [04:55] <gPad2002> So get that back first
#1150 [04:55] <Morrolan> Well, if you payed via PayPal it's in your PayPal account as well.
#1151 [04:55] <AG_Scott> If you can login Paypal, the transaction is there.
#1152 [04:55] <gPad2002> Contact yahoo, they'll sort it out
#1153 [04:55] <DjM1zw1z> Whats going on? about payments?
#1154 [04:56] <Morrolan> If you paied via credit card, then it's on your credit card bill.
#1155 [04:56] <AG_Scott> and it's more than likely on your credit card/bank statements.
#1156 [04:56] <gPad2002> DjM1zw1z: He got his email and MC stolen
#1157 [04:56] <AG_Scott> Morrolan, type slower!
#1158 [04:56] <DjM1zw1z> Hm
#1159 [04:56] <Morrolan> AG_SChott. :p
#1160 [04:56] <Morrolan> Scott*
#1161 [04:56] <gPad2002> Morrolan: Use TAB
#1162 [04:56] <gPad2002> :P
#1163 [04:57] <Paggos> hm
#1164 [04:57] <Paggos> paypal
#1165 [04:57] <DjM1zw1z> Ring or email the Email providers and do the same with mojang
#1166 [04:57] <Morrolan> gPad: Depends on the irc client wheter it's supported or not I guess. ;)
#1167 [04:57] <Paggos> can i call mojang?
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#1169 [04:57] <AG_Scott> No, but you can email them.
#1170 [04:57] <gPad2002> Morrolan: If it doesn't support it
#1171 [04:57] <DjM1zw1z> I dont think,
#1172 [04:57] <gPad2002> Its a stupid client
#1173 [04:57] <DjM1zw1z> its a small company
#1174 [04:57] <AG_Scott> and good luck getting yahoo to do anything if it's not an ISP account.
#1175 [04:57] <Paggos> :/
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#1177 [04:57] <gPad2002> Paggos: Your next step then
#1178 [04:57] <gPad2002> Is to go to everywhere you have an account
#1179 [04:58] <gPad2002> And change the email
#1180 [04:58] <gPad2002> :P
#1181 [04:58] <Morrolan> gPad: I know, my client had its last update somewhere in 2006, but I never got around to switch to another client. :D
#1182 [04:58] <DjM1zw1z> Paggos? Do you have any credit card or bank details on your email account
#1183 [04:58] <Paggos> ;/
#1184 [04:58] <gPad2002> Morrolan: What client?
#1185 [04:58] <Morrolan> Bersirc
#1186 [04:58] <Paggos> no, i dont believe so
#1187 [04:58] <gPad2002> Never heard of it
#1188 [04:58] <gPad2002> OS?
#1189 [04:58] <DjM1zw1z> Linux FTW
#1190 [04:58] <AG_Scott> Just switch to XChat, it works on everything :>
#1191 [04:58] <Morrolan> Windows
#1192 [04:59] <gPad2002> Lol xChat
#1193 [04:59] <DjM1zw1z> Windows is dodgy
#1194 [04:59] <gPad2002> Morrolan: mIRC is nice
#1195 [04:59] <Paggos> ;/
#1196 [04:59] <DjM1zw1z> Ubuntu FTW
#1197 [04:59] <DjM1zw1z> Ubuntu = No Viruses Possible
#1198 [04:59] <gPad2002> I think that windows makes for a better main PC
#1199 [04:59] <DjM1zw1z> Windows: Download ought, to many viruses
#1200 [04:59] <gPad2002> And
#1201 [04:59] <DjM1zw1z> Mac: Fancy
#1202 [04:59] <gPad2002> There are plenty of rootkits for nix
#1203 [04:59] <gPad2002> You should at least run Clam
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#1205 [05:00] <AG_Scott> Only if you use sudo stupidly :P
#1206 [05:00] <Morrolan> DjM1zw1z: That's bullshit. If you don't behave like an idiot you won't have issues with viruses on Windows either. ;)
#1207 [05:00] <LoRDTrevor> Mac: No viruses!(but only because everyone feels sorry for you)
#1208 [05:00] <gPad2002> ^
#1209 [05:00] <gPad2002> No, there are mac viruses too
#1210 [05:00] <gPad2002> Just not many
#1211 [05:00] <DjM1zw1z> Morrolan
#1212 [05:00] <LoRDTrevor> ik
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#1214 [05:00] <AG_Scott> There is actually antivirus for both mac and linux but the risks is so minimal why bother?
#1215 [05:00] <jercos> Very few in the wild, and mostly (like just Windows viruses) spead by illegal filesharing.
#1216 [05:00] <gPad2002> Hell
#1217 [05:00] <gPad2002> Even iOS had one
#1218 [05:01] <gPad2002> The rickroll virus
#1219 [05:01] <gPad2002> :P
#1220 [05:01] <jercos> Why would anyone use antivirus in the first place though?
#1221 [05:01] <AG_Scott> Because they're idiots.
#1222 [05:01] <gPad2002> jercos: Because we like to download things
#1223 [05:01] <jercos> As long as you're using some level of sandboxing, aren't using IE, and aren't downloading and running random programs...
#1224 [05:01] <jercos> sandboxie. download things without fear.
#1225 [05:01] <DjM1zw1z> Im not a idiot for saying that it just on windows some things are to good to be true
#1226 [05:01] <gPad2002> Lol, IE
#1227 [05:01] <AG_Scott> I admittedly have Microsoft Security Essentials in my win2k3 VM lol
#1228 [05:01] <gPad2002> jercos: Avast, has a sandbox too
#1229 [05:01] <DjM1zw1z> its*
#1230 [05:02] <jercos> sandboxie is so much... nicer though :p
#1231 [05:02] <jercos> And smaller.
#1232 [05:02] <jercos> Avast is a fattie.
#1233 [05:02] <gPad2002> Yeah, but I like Avast
#1234 [05:02] <jercos> Yarr
#1235 [05:02] <DjM1zw1z> I got Full Avast
#1236 [05:02] <gPad2002> And I have enough power not to notice it
#1237 [05:02] <gPad2002> Same
#1238 [05:02] <jercos> I got norton, and seven proxies.
#1239 [05:02] <DjM1zw1z> Protects 3 pc's in the house
#1240 [05:02] <gPad2002> Lol norton
#1241 [05:02] <DjM1zw1z> Norton
#1242 [05:02] <DjM1zw1z> Kapersky
#1243 [05:02] <gPad2002> You have norton
#1244 [05:02] <gPad2002> And you talk to me about antivirus
#1245 [05:02] <gPad2002> xD
#1246 [05:02] <DjM1zw1z> Thatssssss a nice antivirus system you have there,
#1247 [05:03] <Morrolan> Bah, I'm out of here, before I start raging. ;)
#1248 [05:03] <AG_Scott> Kaspersky was my favorite. I don't have any that I use regularly now.
#1249 [05:03] <Morrolan> Cya later. :)
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#1251 [05:03] <gPad2002> :P
#1252 [05:03] <LoRDTrevor> I dont file share, I dont browse more than thirty sites, and I only download from reputable sources,i dont play flash games and I havent had a virus for years. Why do i need a virus scanner?
#1253 [05:03] <DjM1zw1z> LoRD
#1254 [05:03] <AG_Scott> well reputable sources can be compromised.
#1255 [05:03] <gPad2002> LoRDTrevor: People who download a lot need it
#1256 [05:03] <gPad2002> Like me
#1257 [05:03] <gPad2002> :P
#1258 [05:04] <gPad2002> There's also JavaScript attacks
#1259 [05:04] <DjM1zw1z> You never know whats in a file thats why,
#1260 [05:04] <LoRDTrevor> I have jscript turned off
#1261 [05:04] <gPad2002> That.. Is stupid
#1262 [05:04] <DjM1zw1z> Just avoid anything what says [FileName].bat
#1263 [05:04] <LoRDTrevor> except for when i need it
#1264 [05:04] <gPad2002> Lol, bat
#1265 [05:04] <gPad2002> If I find a bat, I edit it first
#1266 [05:04] <DjM1zw1z> Lol
#1267 [05:04] <LoRDTrevor> DjM1zw1z: i made a bat virus
#1268 [05:04] <DjM1zw1z> XD
#1269 [05:05] <DjM1zw1z> Same here,
#1270 [05:05] <gPad2002> I have the code for a python virus
#1271 [05:05] <LoRDTrevor> it installs a minecraft server as a service
#1272 [05:05] <DjM1zw1z> I made a batch virus attack
#1273 [05:05] <gPad2002> This one was awesome
#1274 [05:05] <gPad2002> It joined a channel on free node
#1275 [05:05] <DjM1zw1z> the only bat i use is bukkit
#1276 [05:05] <LoRDTrevor> when i put a autorun cd in the computer
#1277 [05:05] <gPad2002> And you could use it to get screenshots,
#1278 [05:05] <gPad2002> Key history
#1279 [05:05] <gPad2002> All sorts of stuff
#1280 [05:05] <LoRDTrevor> My servers owners do not currently know they run a server
#1281 [05:05] <gPad2002> DjM1zw1z: start.sh :P
#1282 [05:06] <gPad2002> LoRDTrevor: Lol
#1283 [05:06] <DjM1zw1z> Im really annoyed, When i go on a server alot it says User Not Premium. Gawd
#1284 [05:06] <gPad2002> Overzealous security
#1285 [05:06] <gPad2002> :P
#1286 [05:07] <LoRDTrevor> Offline mode FTW!
#1287 [05:07] <DjM1zw1z> haspaid?=Person
#1288 [05:07] <gPad2002> Same
#1289 [05:07] <DjM1zw1z> Oops
#1290 [05:07] <gPad2002> Name verification is annoying
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#1292 [05:07] <gPad2002> And sloe
#1293 [05:07] <gPad2002> Slow*
#1294 [05:07] <DjM1zw1z> I like online cos i hate independent builds
#1295 [05:07] <gPad2002> Anyway
#1296 [05:07] <LoRDTrevor> My servers private anyway.
#1297 [05:07] <gPad2002> Back ti what I was saying
#1298 [05:07] <DjM1zw1z> Sasme
#1299 [05:07] <DjM1zw1z> same*
#1300 [05:08] <gPad2002> I prefer windows for a desktop PC
#1301 [05:08] <gPad2002> And nix for a server
#1302 [05:08] <DjM1zw1z> I always use bukkit
#1303 [05:08] <gPad2002> Same
#1304 [05:08] <DjM1zw1z> But it says outdated server ad i dont know how to fix it
#1305 [05:08] <gPad2002> Ubuntu VPS
#1306 [05:08] <gPad2002> http://ci.bukkit.org
#1307 [05:08] <LoRDTrevor> The only reason I stopped using linux and bought windows 7
#1308 [05:08] <LoRDTrevor> was because i didnt understand minecrafts memory parameters
#1309 [05:09] <LoRDTrevor> and it kept crashing
#1310 [05:09] <gPad2002> :P
#1311 [05:09] <gPad2002> ~speak
#1312 [05:09] <gPad2002> http://ci.bukkit.org/
#1313 [05:09] <DjM1zw1z> my cat is eating its fur
#1314 [05:09] <LoRDTrevor> yum
#1315 [05:09] <DjM1zw1z> What is that gPad?
#1316 [05:09] <gPad2002> Oh it just can't parse it
#1317 [05:09] <gPad2002> DjM1zw1z: Continuous integration for bukkit
#1318 [05:10] <DjM1zw1z> What?
#1319 [05:10] <gPad2002> Automated builds..
#1320 [05:10] <DjM1zw1z> Oh
#1321 [05:10] <LoRDTrevor> Holy crap I thought this was #minecraft not #minecrafthelp
#1322 [05:10] <gPad2002> Lol LoRDTrevor
#1323 [05:10] <DjM1zw1z> XD
#1324 [05:10] <gPad2002> ~dict fail 1
#1325 [05:10] <gPad2002> :P
#1326 [05:10] <gPad2002> Oh come on lol
#1327 [05:10] <gPad2002> It can't talk?
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#1329 [05:10] <LoRDTrevor> wha?
#1330 [05:10] * gPad2002 pokes McPlusPlus
#1330 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> How do you use the haspaid thing on here
#1331 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> ?haspaid=DjM1zw1z
#1332 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> >
#1333 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> >_<
#1334 [05:11] <gPad2002> :P
#1335 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> What is it lol
#1336 [05:11] <DjM1zw1z> Im new to minecraft
#1337 [05:11] <gPad2002> http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=DjM1zw1z
#1338 [05:12] <gPad2002> I should integrate that into the bot :P
#1339 [05:12] <gPad2002> Hey, GreyVulpine, you thar?
#1340 [05:12] <DjM1zw1z> i was using a free offline 1 for ages by someone called Kaen then i bought it last month
#1341 [05:12] <gPad2002> I take it a bot has muted McPlusPlus? :P
#1342 [05:12] <LoRDTrevor> What is wrong with my computer? Whenever I try to compile java it cant find the main class.
#1343 [05:13] <LoRDTrevor> I used that freaking auto decompiler for minecraft and what do you know. Cant find main class.
#1344 [05:13] <gPad2002> MCP?
#1345 [05:13] <gPad2002> Yeah I never got that to work either
#1346 [05:14] <LoRDTrevor> it got it to decompile
#1347 [05:14] <LoRDTrevor> But whenever i try to compile anything it compiles
#1348 [05:14] <LoRDTrevor> and then wont run
#1349 [05:15] <LoRDTrevor> Im trying to learn java and my computers being a bitch
#1350 [05:15] <LoRDTrevor> naybe ill just go back to learning GD byond.
#1351 [05:16] <gPad2002> C++ :P
#1352 [05:17] <LoRDTrevor> I either want somthing multi-platform or easy. C++ aint doing either of those.
#1353 [05:18] <gPad2002> C++ is cross platform
#1354 [05:18] <gPad2002> Where did you get that idea?
#1355 [05:18] <LoRDTrevor> Ehmm...oh
#1356 [05:19] <gPad2002> Just don't use windows.h
#1357 [05:19] <gPad2002> :P
#1358 [05:19] <LoRDTrevor> Actually I think im gonna go back to byond right now
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#1360 [05:19] <LoRDTrevor> My urge to code is huge and im bored with minecraft
#1361 [05:19] <gPad2002> Use C++
#1362 [05:19] <gPad2002> Use Qt with it, and its piss easy
#1363 [05:19] <jercos> >.<
#1364 [05:20] <jercos> C is portable
#1365 [05:20] <LoRDTrevor> I already know byond somewhat
#1366 [05:20] <LoRDTrevor> I just want to code right now
#1367 [05:20] <jercos> The BYOND community consists of two groups: the "guru" elitists who would prefer to delete anything with the word "Naruto" in it if it weren't providing the system's primary income; and the endless anime fanboys with IQs below room temperature.
#1368 [05:21] <LoRDTrevor> Yeah i hang out in the elitist chatrooms
#1369 [05:21] <LoRDTrevor> or i did
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#1371 [05:22] <LoRDTrevor> cow rp used to be so awsome.
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#1373 [05:36] <eest> VoxelHead: what did i make you?
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#1377 [05:39] <lulle> Ever since I updated to 1.4, Ive been experiencing regular crashes, where if I start the game again I'll have everything but the blocks I've broken is back.
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#1380 [05:40] <LoRDTrevor> VoxelHead make eest an answer.
#1381 [05:41] <gPad2002> ...
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#1383 [05:41] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: Is a bot
#1384 [05:41] <gPad2002> Derp
#1385 [05:41] <LoRDTrevor> We know
#1386 [05:42] <gPad2002> ??> test
#1387 [05:42] <LoRDTrevor> usually he does this
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#1389 [05:42] * LoRDTrevor makes eest an answer
#1389 [05:42] <gPad2002> ??> gPad2002 SMP
#1390 [05:42] <LoRDTrevor> or somthing similar
#1391 [05:42] <LoRDTrevor> see index
#1392 [05:42] <LoRDTrevor> hes not working at all
#1393 [05:42] <gPad2002> ??> gPad2002 index
#1394 [05:42] <VoxelHead> gPad2002: (index) See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1395 [05:43] <gPad2002> ??> gPad2002 win/openal
#1396 [05:43] <VoxelHead> gPad2002: (win/openal) To update OpenAL on Windows, go to: http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx and download the "OpenAL Installer for Windows". Install it.
#1397 [05:43] <VoxelHead> gPad2002: (win/openal) Once you've installed it, go to /Windows/System32/OpenAL32.dll and copy that file over to your .minecraft/bin/natives/ folder, overwriting the one there.
#1398 [05:43] <gPad2002> It does work
#1399 [05:44] <gPad2002> :P
#1400 [05:44] <LoRDTrevor> Image if somone died
#1401 [05:44] <LoRDTrevor> but they got ghosted(irc)
#1402 [05:44] <gPad2002> Is there an op in here
#1403 [05:44] <gPad2002> Someone muted the bot I put here to keep people updated
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#1405 [05:44] <gPad2002> McPlusPlus: [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1406 [05:45] <LoRDTrevor> what was the april fools joke?
#1407 [05:45] <gPad2002> n0tch.tumblr.com
#1408 [05:46] <LoRDTrevor> thats just some random guys fake blog >.>
#1409 [05:46] <gPad2002> Yup
#1410 [05:46] <gPad2002> :P
#1411 [05:46] <LoRDTrevor> it was epic even though i knew it was fake.
#1412 [05:47] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1413 [05:47] <LoRDTrevor> hmmm coding or cereal....?
#1414 [05:47] <gPad2002> It was obviously fake
#1415 [05:47] <gPad2002> Coding, sir
#1416 [05:47] <LoRDTrevor> yes
#1417 [05:48] <LoRDTrevor> Now lets see if making skins has improved my sprites
#1418 [05:48] <LoRDTrevor> Nope
#1419 [05:48] <gPad2002> :P
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#1421 [05:51] <gPad2002> Kealper: You there?
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#1423 [05:54] <LoRDTrevor> Urgh byonds new color scheme is discusting
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#1430 [06:26] <Aska990> hello again
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#1433 [06:31] <Aska990> so, spawn resetting while sleeping doesn't work ? I'm disappointed....
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#1436 [06:42] <lemon-rev> do sheeps automaticly now loose there wool ?, im finding wool on ground even when i havent attacked them ?
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#1438 [06:43] <Jaska> Hey are the wolves available on smp?
#1439 [06:45] <TheBix> hey
#1440 [06:45] <TheBix> can some one help me make this: http://webs.uvigo.es/mdgomez/SED/Simbolos_ISE/C__Xilinx_doc_usenglish_de_libs_ftc.pdf
#1441 [06:45] <TheBix> (scroll down to the first truth table and ignore the "T" column)
#1442 [06:45] <TheBix> I want to make something with a truth table like that.
#1443 [06:46] * bread pokes VoxelHead
#1443 [06:47] <TheBix> just imagine T is always 1, so ignore it
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#1446 [06:57] <TheBix> anyone?
#1447 [06:58] <gPad2002> Redchips and bukkit
#1448 [07:00] <Jaska> ah nvm.. found 7 wolves
#1449 [07:00] <gPad2002> Lol.
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#1451 [07:04] <TheBix> :\
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#1453 [07:14] <johnny> is minecraft down
#1454 [07:14] <gPad2002> isitdownforeveryoneorjustme.com
#1455 [07:15] <johnny> lol
#1456 [07:15] <gPad2002> http://isminecraftdown.net/ even better
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#1458 [07:24] <TheBix> I shoulda made that site
#1459 [07:24] <TheBix> so my webserver would have a usse
#1460 [07:24] <TheBix> use*
#1461 [07:30] <Kouken> They are the same sizes
#1462 [07:30] <Kouken> It wont run for me
#1463 [07:30] * gPad2002 goes to #dragonweyr
#1463 [07:30] <Kouken> XD
#1464 [07:30] <Kouken> NO
#1465 [07:30] <Kouken> NO
#1466 [07:30] <Kouken> NO
#1467 [07:30] <Kouken> I STOP
#1468 [07:31] <Kouken> Me foreign
#1469 [07:31] <Kouken> Me no know english
#1470 [07:31] <AG_Scott> gPad2002, why do we need ircops?
#1471 [07:31] <Kouken> Cuz I trolled on bukkit
#1472 [07:31] <gPad2002> Because he's spammed this in queries and two channels
#1473 [07:31] <Kouken> and aked a different question here
#1474 [07:31] <AG_Scott> use /ignore?
#1475 [07:32] <AG_Scott> and that's a channel issue.
#1476 [07:32] <AG_Scott> That's what Esper ops will tell you
#1477 [07:32] <Kouken> Noob
#1478 [07:32] <gPad2002> Nah, it isn't
#1479 [07:32] <gPad2002> I've reported stuff like this before
#1480 [07:32] <Kouken> You have insufficient data
#1481 [07:32] <Kouken> I trolled on one server
#1482 [07:32] <Kouken> not 2
#1483 [07:32] <gPad2002> Actually, no I don't :P
#1484 [07:33] <Kouken> lolk
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#1490 [08:01] <TheNytangel> lmfao
#1491 [08:01] <TheNytangel> rick roll music on the store page
#1492 [08:01] <gPad2002> :P
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#1494 [08:02] <TheNytangel> im not gonna stop listening..
#1495 [08:02] <TheNytangel> its too funny
#1496 [08:03] <feka> Hello, I try to change my skin, but it won't upload the changes I've been doing
#1497 [08:03] <gPad2002> Sax roll is better
#1498 [08:03] <gPad2002> :P
#1499 [08:03] <gPad2002> 1227.com
#1500 [08:03] <gPad2002> I think
#1501 [08:03] <TheNytangel> feka, did you go to the minecraft.net profile?
#1502 [08:03] <feka> Yep
#1503 [08:04] <feka> And downloaded that pic, exchanged colors with the original ones
#1504 [08:04] <TheNytangel> clicked "Upload..."
#1505 [08:04] <feka> then uploaded that pic, i didn't change dimensions or anything
#1506 [08:04] <TheNytangel> or "Browse..."
#1507 [08:04] <gPad2002> Then it worked
#1508 [08:04] <gPad2002> The site doesn't change to reflect it
#1509 [08:04] <feka> But I can't view it
#1510 [08:04] <feka> ok
#1511 [08:04] <gPad2002> Check it ingame
#1512 [08:04] <gPad2002> Or you can do
#1513 [08:05] <gPad2002> http://minecraft.net/skin/user.png
#1514 [08:05] <gPad2002> Where user is the username (with caps in the correct places)
#1515 [08:05] <feka> Yeah i checked in game now and i worked
#1516 [08:05] <feka> lol
#1517 [08:05] <feka> thanks anyway
#1518 [08:05] <gPad2002> :P
#1519 [08:05] <gPad2002> Yw
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#1521 [08:08] <TheNytangel> man
#1522 [08:09] <TheNytangel> im not gonna stop listening to this
#1523 [08:09] <TheNytangel> i might turn it down a little though
#1524 [08:10] <gPad2002> :P
#1525 [08:10] <gPad2002> Just listen to Internet radio
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#1527 [08:11] <TheNytangel> nu!
#1528 [08:11] <gPad2002> Yas!
#1529 [08:12] <TheNytangel> nu!
#1530 [08:12] <TheNytangel> i like the rick roll music
#1531 [08:12] <gPad2002> Pssh
#1532 [08:12] <gPad2002> Go listen to Ministry of Sound
#1533 [08:12] <gPad2002> Or Bassdrive
#1534 [08:12] <TheNytangel> wtf is that
#1535 [08:12] <gPad2002> MoS is better right now
#1536 [08:12] <gPad2002> Internet radio, google it
#1537 [08:12] <TheNytangel> no
#1538 [08:12] <gPad2002> :P
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#1541 [08:13] <Zymes> anyone have trouble using autohotkey with MC? when I hit my hotkey it always does the action and changes to slot 7, very annoying
#1542 [08:13] * gPad2002 shrugs
#1542 [08:13] <TheNytangel> change it from 7
#1543 [08:14] <Zymes> TheNytangel?
#1544 [08:14] <TheNytangel> what
#1545 [08:14] <TheNytangel> lol
#1546 [08:14] <Zymes> what do you mean?
#1547 [08:14] <TheNytangel> idk
#1548 [08:14] <Zymes> ...
#1549 [08:14] <TheNytangel> im just a random person here
#1550 [08:14] <TheNytangel> i helped someone push E yesterday though
#1551 [08:14] <gPad2002> TheNytangel: He's asking what you meant
#1552 [08:14] <gPad2002> By what you said
#1553 [08:15] <TheNytangel> i know
#1554 [08:15] <TheNytangel> i meant change your keys
#1555 [08:15] <Zymes> where ?
#1556 [08:15] <Zymes> I have nothing binded to key 7
#1557 [08:15] <TheNytangel> Options
#1558 [08:15] <TheNytangel> well then
#1559 [08:15] <TheNytangel> i have no idea
#1560 [08:15] <Zymes> it changes the quickbar slot to 7
#1561 [08:15] <gPad2002> Number keys equal slots
#1562 [08:15] <gPad2002> If you have it press 7, it will move to 7
#1563 [08:15] * gPad2002 derps
#1563 [08:15] <TheNytangel> well then gPad2002, you help him
#1564 [08:16] <Zymes> but for some reason it change to slot 7
#1565 [08:16] <gPad2002> He'll tell me he isn't pressing 7
#1566 [08:16] <gPad2002> :P
#1567 [08:16] <TheNytangel> *facepalm*
#1568 [08:16] <Zymes> I'm not
#1569 [08:16] <Zymes> I press tab
#1570 [08:16] <gPad2002> Yeah, I meant in your script
#1571 [08:16] <Zymes> Tab::
#1572 [08:17] <gPad2002> So all it's supposed to do is hit tab for you
#1573 [08:17] <gPad2002> Ok
#1574 [08:17] <gPad2002> That makes total sense..
#1575 [08:17] <Zymes> http://pastebin.com/5QzBjzqr
#1576 [08:17] <Zymes> it does the action AND changse to slot 7 every time
#1577 [08:18] <Zymes> so annoying
#1578 [08:18] <gPad2002> Then its either a bug or something else is doing that
#1579 [08:18] <TheNytangel> go to C:\Users\Brad\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#1580 [08:18] <TheNytangel> and go into "Options" notepad file
#1581 [08:18] <gPad2002> I'm not on your PC
#1582 [08:19] <TheNytangel> thats as far as im going with that
#1583 [08:19] <gPad2002> :P
#1584 [08:19] <TheNytangel> i have no idea why i had you do that
#1585 [08:19] <Zymes> TheNytangel: there is no bind for 7 there
#1586 [08:19] <Zymes> I cant turn it off
#1587 [08:19] <gPad2002> Oh right
#1588 [08:19] <gPad2002> Lol
#1589 [08:19] <gPad2002> Uh
#1590 [08:19] <gPad2002> Why so lazy anyway?
#1591 [08:19] <Zymes> I use other hotkeys too
#1592 [08:19] <Zymes> /heal etc.
#1593 [08:19] <gPad2002> And isn't there an extra space before the second enter?
#1594 [08:20] <TheNytangel> Zymes
#1595 [08:20] <TheNytangel> thats a command
#1596 [08:20] <TheNytangel> not a hotkey :P
#1597 [08:20] <Zymes> no shit?
#1598 [08:20] <Zymes> http://pastebin.com/5QzBjzqr
#1599 [08:20] <gPad2002> Isn't that an extra space after home?
#1600 [08:20] <Zymes> two spaces?
#1601 [08:21] <Zymes> there is a space now
#1602 [08:21] <Zymes> let me try without
#1603 [08:21] <gPad2002> One space
#1604 [08:21] <Zymes> right one its just 1
#1605 [08:21] <gPad2002> So remove it?
#1606 [08:21] <Zymes> no change
#1607 [08:21] <gPad2002> Or do you need it?
#1608 [08:21] * gPad2002 doesnt use ahk
#1608 [08:21] <TheNytangel> http://pastebin.com/DrpPNHCu
#1609 [08:22] <TheNytangel> lol
#1610 [08:22] <Zymes> no difference
#1611 [08:22] <TheNytangel> im so random at times
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#1613 [08:27] <Zymes> man this is so annoying
#1614 [08:28] <TheNytangel> remove the hotkey and then go and push tab and see if it goes to "7"
#1615 [08:28] <gPad2002> Or
#1616 [08:28] <gPad2002> Open notepad
#1617 [08:28] <gPad2002> And see if it actually presses 7
#1618 [08:28] <Zymes> it doesnt
#1619 [08:29] <gPad2002> Well
#1620 [08:29] <gPad2002> Remap it so it can work in notepad first
#1621 [08:29] <Zymes> notepad does not press 7
#1622 [08:29] <TheNytangel> push 7 and see if it tabs :P
#1623 [08:29] <Zymes> nope
#1624 [08:29] <gPad2002> :P
#1625 [08:30] <TheNytangel> remove the hotkey and see if it does 7 ingame
#1626 [08:30] <Zymes> it must be a autohotkey + minecraft issue, funny nobody else have this problem
#1627 [08:30] <TheNytangel> if it doesnt, rewrite the hotkey
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#1631 [08:36] <Craigy_T> Hey guys, was wondering if anyone could shed some light on my problem, im trying to set up a 2 player survival server for me and a friend, and im not sure how to do so.
#1632 [08:36] <gPad2002> ??> index
#1633 [08:37] <TheNytangel> well
#1634 [08:37] <TheNytangel> !server
#1635 [08:37] <gPad2002> Gah
#1636 [08:37] <TheNytangel> to start with
#1637 [08:37] <gPad2002> ??> gPad2002 index
#1638 [08:37] <VoxelHead> gPad2002: (index) See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1639 [08:37] <Craigy_T> Ok, i have downloaded this software
#1640 [08:37] <TheNytangel> its best to use the .jar..
#1641 [08:37] <TheNytangel> but ok
#1642 [08:37] <gPad2002> ??> Craigy_T mc.net/hosting
#1643 [08:37] <gPad2002> I hope..
#1644 [08:37] <VoxelHead> Craigy_T: (mc.net/hosting) Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#1645 [08:37] <VoxelHead> Craigy_T: (mc.net/hosting) This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#1646 [08:37] <gPad2002> Nope
#1647 [08:38] <gPad2002> That's not it
#1648 [08:38] <TheNytangel> lol
#1649 [08:38] <TheNytangel> Craigy_T, why dont we do this in a pm, where gPad2002 isnt spamming the chat :)
#1650 [08:38] <Craigy_T> use the .jar ok, and i simply double click this to set it up?
#1651 [08:38] <TheNytangel> no
#1652 [08:38] <Craigy_T> sure nytangle
#1653 [08:39] <oldtopman> gPad2002: PM me for more info on voxelHead
#1654 [08:39] <gPad2002> oldtopman: Ifyousayso
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#1658 [08:41] <Falielia> Hello
#1659 [08:41] <gPad2002> Lol
#1660 [08:41] <gPad2002> Ok then
#1661 [08:43] <gPad2002> ??+
#1662 [08:43] <gPad2002> Aw
#1663 [08:43] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: You can't add keywords into my dababase.
#1664 [08:44] <oldtopman> ??>> gPad2002 ask
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#1667 [08:52] <infernofox> hello
#1668 [08:53] <gPad2002> Hi.
#1669 [08:53] <infernofox> Ive been having an issue with java and if someone can help me out it would be greatly appreciated
#1670 [08:53] <infernofox> ive posted a topic on it i nthe minecraft forums found here
#1671 [08:53] <infernofox> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?uid=35704&f=17&t=254526&start=0
#1672 [08:53] <infernofox> thank you in advance for your help if yo ucan
#1673 [08:54] <gPad2002> Just ask
#1674 [08:54] <gPad2002> If someone can help, they will
#1675 [08:54] <gPad2002> Try the certificate manager
#1676 [08:54] <gPad2002> It might be in there
#1677 [08:55] <infernofox> i get the same error when i try to open the certificate manager up
#1678 [08:55] <gPad2002> Have you googles?
#1679 [08:55] <gPad2002> Google*
#1680 [08:56] <infernofox> yeah ,it said i should delete a trusted.certs file
#1681 [08:56] <infernofox> the problem is that i dont have that file in m ycomputer
#1682 [08:56] <gPad2002> Do more research
#1683 [08:56] <gPad2002> Its probably in an area not indexed
#1684 [08:56] <infernofox> alright, thanks for the help
#1685 [08:57] <gPad2002> Check C:/Users/User/AppDat
#1686 [08:57] <gPad2002> Data*
#1687 [08:57] <infernofox> ok
#1688 [08:57] <gPad2002> (or %APPDATA%)
#1689 [08:58] <infernofox> ah
#1690 [08:58] <infernofox> found it
#1691 [08:58] <infernofox> thank you
#1692 [08:58] <gPad2002> :P
#1693 [08:58] <gPad2002> Yw
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#1703 [09:17] <Gecko1986> my right mouse button does not work @ 1.4 ? anyone else have this issue?
#1704 [09:20] <Gecko1986> nm
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#1707 [09:23] <bugweiser> hello
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#1710 [09:40] <FairFight> Am I the only one who cant get the beds to work? I place a bed - sleep - die - but I spawn at the usual spawnpoint.
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#1713 [09:44] <EricMc> so is this just for tech support or for gameplay help too?
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#1733 [10:33] <freaky[t]> hi all. i recently bought minecraft and want to run my private server on linux. is there any mod i should have for my server?
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#1735 [10:34] <Lamp> Hello?
#1736 [10:34] <bread> I love lamp.
#1737 [10:34] <Lamp> How do I connect to my server, that's on my network nut not the pc I am using?
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#1741 [10:40] <Morrolan> Lamp: Use it's internal ip.
#1742 [10:40] <Lamp> Like
#1743 [10:40] <Morrolan> Freaky: Bukkit is rather nice and has a lot of plugins. If you're interested check out www.bukkit.org
#1744 [10:41] <Lamp> Can you explain it a bit further
#1745 [10:41] <Morrolan> Lamp: What OS are you using?
#1746 [10:41] <Lamp> Just the ip?
#1747 [10:41] <Morrolan> Yea
#1748 [10:41] <Lamp> Windows 7 ^4 bit
#1749 [10:41] <Lamp> Hmm
#1750 [10:41] <Morrolan> The one which, most likely, starts with 192.168
#1751 [10:41] <Lamp> Ok
#1752 [10:41] <Lamp> I'll go try
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#1757 [10:42] <Morrolan> Lamp: If you don't know how to access the internal IP just give me a shout, I'll show you.
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#1760 [10:48] <FairFight> Am I the only one who cant get the beds to work? I place a bed - sleep - die - but I spawn at the usual spawnpoint.
#1761 [10:49] <Linknexus> me to
#1762 [10:49] <Linknexus> smp?
#1763 [10:51] <DreadLindwyrm> I think you have to complete the sleep cycle to reset your spawn point
#1764 [10:52] <DreadLindwyrm> On the other hand, it might only work in SSP
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#1770 [11:01] <Guest906> Hello, is there a solution to the Java black screen problem? Example: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=243574
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#1773 [11:04] <FairFight> Linknexus: I've both tried smp and single player but couldnt get it to work :/
#1774 [11:04] <zani> hey there
#1775 [11:05] <Linknexus> weird
#1776 [11:05] <Guest906> Hi zani
#1777 [11:05] <FairFight> DreadLindwyrm: What do you mean by completing the sleep cycle? Not being attacked by monsters during the night?
#1778 [11:06] <DreadLindwyrm> yep
#1779 [11:06] <zani> I can't login, and I have no clue
#1780 [11:06] <zani> any ideas?
#1781 [11:07] <FairFight> DreadLindwyrm: Oh, that sucks.. I've tried that 5-10 times without success :(
#1782 [11:07] <zani> I started having some problems with the client and today I realized I can't login from minecraft.net too
#1783 [11:07] <zani> even though I'm sure the password and the username are right
#1784 [11:07] <DreadLindwyrm> IS your bed next to the wall in your house? If so, try building a slightly bigger house so you have at least one space between you and the walls on all sides. Also, make sure your house is well lit.
#1785 [11:08] <FairFight> Hmm.. I'll try that.. Thanks
#1786 [11:09] <zani> anyone?
#1787 [11:09] <FairFight> But have you got it to work :)?
#1788 [11:11] <SkiingPenguins> zani tried reseting your login pass?
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#1790 [11:12] <Jimbo8> Hello.
#1791 [11:14] <zani> how do I do it? I can't access to my profile from minecraft.net
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#1793 [11:22] <mib_5bb193> hi
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#1796 [11:23] <mib_5bb193> can i use my minecraft username on 2 computers???
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#1798 [11:23] <SkiingPenguins> no
#1799 [11:23] <SkiingPenguins> zani: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1800 [11:23] <SkiingPenguins> mib_5bb193 yes, but not at the same time i think
#1801 [11:23] <mib_5bb193> oh :S
#1802 [11:24] <mib_5bb193> cuz i want to play home and by my grandparants
#1803 [11:24] <Guest906> Sorry to repeat my question...
#1804 [11:24] <zani> hey someone is trying to steal my account
#1805 [11:24] <mib_5bb193> lol
#1806 [11:24] <Guest906> Is there a solution to the Java black screen problem? Example: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=243574
#1807 [11:24] <zani> I checked the mail account I'm registered with
#1808 [11:25] <SkiingPenguins> set better passwords and dont use malicious software or mods :)
#1809 [11:25] <zani> and I got a mail from Mojang
#1810 [11:25] <mib_5bb193> lol
#1811 [11:26] <zani> but I ignored the link
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#1813 [11:27] <lAte> hello i would need some help on my server setup
#1814 [11:28] <lAte> how can i put my singleplayer world to my server`?
#1815 [11:32] <zani> thank you, problem solved!
#1816 [11:33] <Guest906> Well maybe another time I get attention. Have a nice weekend all. Bye. :)
#1817 [11:35] <zani> hey guest wait are you using a mod?
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#1819 [11:38] <mitpatterson_> Kealper, hey, do you have that link to that vid on your site? it won't work now, i never really watched it, was was SMP'ing it up
#1820 [11:38] <SkiingPenguins> mitpatterson_ i downloaded it
#1821 [11:39] <g> #minecrafthelp q McPlusPlus!*@*
#1822 [11:39] <g> rawr
#1823 [11:39] <g> why so?
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#1827 [11:41] <g> lol
#1828 [11:41] <g> ALL of the ops have away messages set
#1829 [11:41] <g> oh come on xD
#1830 [11:43] <lAte> why cant you get any help here..
#1831 [11:43] <SkiingPenguins> what do you need help with lAte
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#1834 [11:48] <g> ??> lAte ask
#1835 [11:48] <VoxelHead> lAte: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1836 [11:48] <VoxelHead> lAte: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1838 [11:52] <raskull> lAte: you can copy the files from your save folder into the "world" directory on your sever. make sure you move the old files in the world dir on the server first
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#1847 [12:42] <g> oaky
#1848 [12:42] <g> okay*
#1849 [12:42] <g> time to add ~haspaid
#1850 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> !paid notch
#1851 [12:43] <g> oh, so you are here
#1852 [12:43] <g> :P
#1853 [12:43] <g> McPlusPlus has been +q'd
#1854 [12:43] <g> #minecrafthelp q McPlusPlus!*@* Kealper!kealper@xales.info 1301723539
#1855 [12:43] <g> by kealper
#1856 [12:43] <g> :P
#1857 [12:44] <g> I think it's already stfu'd though
#1858 [12:44] <g> ~stfu
#1859 [12:44] <g> yeah
#1860 [12:44] <g> it was
#1861 [12:45] <g> I need to think of some way of telling people or mute it how it wor-
#1862 [12:45] <g> ah, yeah, idea
#1863 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> And.. no it wasn't stfu-d when kealper set +q
#1864 [12:45] <g> it wasn't?
#1865 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> They couldn't figure out how to mute it
#1866 [12:45] <g> I'll add an autonotice :P
#1867 [12:45] <g> I'd allow ops to just have access,
#1868 [12:45] <g> but I don't know how to tell that
#1869 [12:47] <g> hm..
#1870 [12:47] <g> hm!
#1871 [12:47] <g> yes yes yes
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#1873 [12:57] <g> oh wow
#1874 [12:57] <g> http://i.imgur.com/CCjJ3.png
#1875 [12:57] <g> so much info
#1876 [12:57] <g> :P
#1877 [12:59] <g> RPL_NAMREPLY ['McPlusPlus_Testing', '@', '#hollow_testing', 'McPlusPlus_Testing @DerpServ @g']
#1878 [12:59] <g> that shall be the one
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#1881 [13:02] <g> that works a treat
#1882 [13:03] <g> I just need to parse it and use it
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#1884 [13:07] <uberdidde> Yo?
#1885 [13:08] <uberdidde> Anyonehere
#1886 [13:08] <g> Mebbeh
#1887 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1888 [13:08] <uberdidde> Ah i'll just explain my problem here.
#1889 [13:08] <Kealper> rawr
#1890 [13:08] <Kealper> http://google.com <-- just testing
#1891 [13:08] <Kealper> oh, it left lol
#1892 [13:08] <g> no it didn't
#1893 [13:08] <g> :P
#1894 [13:08] <g> ~dcit hi 1
#1895 [13:08] <g> faikl
#1896 [13:09] <g> fail***
#1897 [13:09] <g> gah
#1898 [13:09] <Kealper> well...left ish
#1899 [13:09] <g> ~dict hi 1
#1900 [13:09] <McPlusPlus> "hi": A friendly, informal, casual greeting said when meeting someone.
#1901 [13:09] <g> (Need to be logged in to do that)
#1902 [13:09] <g> I'm giving ops automatic access to it
#1903 [13:09] <Kealper> lol
#1904 [13:09] <uberdidde> I've got a minecraft server hosted for me and my pals. But now when the patch came i dont know how to update my server without loosing the world and such. I have back'd up my multiplayer world content but how to update the server now?
#1905 [13:10] <Kealper> so did you make it yourself or is it just a prefab irc bot?
#1906 [13:10] <g> which is.. Actually more complicated than I thought it would be :P
#1907 [13:10] <g> No, I made it myself
#1908 [13:10] <Kealper> oh, then yeah, getting it to listen to ops is rather a PITA
#1909 [13:10] <g> well, aside from the actual protocol implementation that is
#1910 [13:10] <g> it uses Twisted
#1911 [13:10] <g> yeah, but I think I have it now :P
#1912 [13:10] <Kealper> as user modes are not sent in the packets :<
#1913 [13:11] <g> they are
#1914 [13:11] <uberdidde> Does anyone have a solution?
#1915 [13:11] <g> http://i.imgur.com/zF1Jl.png
#1916 [13:11] <g> uberdidde: Just replace the .jar
#1917 [13:11] <Kealper> i meant chat packets
#1918 [13:11] <g> oh, yeah
#1919 [13:11] <g> it only sends the nick
#1920 [13:11] <uberdidde> Well i wasnt using a .jar file i was using an .exe
#1921 [13:11] <g> then replace that
#1922 [13:11] <g> :P
#1923 [13:12] <uberdidde> Where do i get the .exe when i only have .jar updated?
#1924 [13:12] <g> you said you weren't using the jar..
#1925 [13:12] <Kealper> ._.
#1926 [13:12] <Kealper> !client
#1927 [13:12] <g> Kealper: No, server
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#1929 [13:12] <Kealper> !server
#1930 [13:12] <Kealper> lol
#1931 [13:12] <g> lol
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#1933 [13:13] <uberdidde> Nono,Ah thaniks
#1934 [13:13] <g> Kealper: It's a shame you had to mute it
#1935 [13:13] <g> the channel missed a blog post :P
#1936 [13:13] <Kealper> :o
#1937 [13:13] <g> .~check NotchBlog
#1938 [13:13] <Kealper> the mute was requested lol
#1939 [13:13] <g> lol
#1940 [13:13] <g> by who?
#1941 [13:13] <Kealper> i forget now
#1942 [13:13] <g> :P
#1943 [13:13] <g> this is what it does
#1944 [13:13] <Phenex> I am having trouble installing JAVA on Ubuntu, could someone help me? :)
#1945 [13:13] <g> <McPlusPlus_Testing> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1946 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> What problem Phenex?
#1947 [13:14] <g> ??> Phenex java/linux
#1948 [13:14] <Phenex> when I type the install line into the terminal I get this error
#1949 [13:14] <g> gah
#1950 [13:14] <g> ?? index
#1951 [13:14] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1952 [13:14] <Phenex> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
#1953 [13:14] <g> ??> Phenex java/linux/ubuntu
#1954 [13:14] <VoxelHead> Phenex: (java/linux/ubuntu) To install the Oracle JRE environment in recent editions of Ubuntu, follow the guide here:
#1955 [13:14] <VoxelHead> Phenex: (java/linux/ubuntu) http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#1956 [13:14] <g> that bot is pretty damn useful :P
#1957 [13:15] <Phenex> lol
#1958 [13:15] <Phenex> done all that..
#1959 [13:15] <Phenex> I don't come here until I can't find my fix in forums
#1960 [13:15] <Phenex> and I havent found anything that helps.
#1961 [13:15] <Phenex> I had Throatt walking me through it last night
#1962 [13:16] <Phenex> but nothing worked
#1963 [13:16] <Phenex> well, he kept resetting and barely got words out of him lol
#1964 [13:16] <g> what doesn't work, exactly?
#1965 [13:16] <Phenex> I got to the terminal
#1966 [13:16] <Phenex> and
#1967 [13:16] <Phenex> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
#1968 [13:16] <Phenex> type that
#1969 [13:16] <Phenex> I get the error I posted a second ago
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#1971 [13:16] <Phenex> <Phenex>: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
#1972 [13:17] <g> try uh
#1973 [13:17] <g> sudo apt-get -f install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
#1974 [13:17] <g> does it tell you what dependancies you need?
#1975 [13:17] <Phenex> I did and I get...one second
#1976 [13:17] <g> what version of ubuntu do you run?
#1977 [13:17] <g> Have you tried manually downloading java?
#1978 [13:17] <Phenex> 10.10
#1979 [13:18] <Phenex> The following packages have unmet dependencies: sun-java6-jre : Depends: sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build0.10.10.1) but it is not going to be installed or ia32-sun-java6-bin (>= 6.24-1build0.10.10.1) but it is not installable Recommends: gsfonts-x11 but it is not going to be installed sun-java6-plugin : Depends: sun-j
#1980 [13:18] <Phenex> thats after I type f -sintall
#1981 [13:18] <g> 6.24-1build0.10.10.1
#1982 [13:18] <g> alright
#1983 [13:18] <g> it says you need gsfonts-x11
#1984 [13:18] <g> ok, so
#1985 [13:18] <g> are you on 32 or 64 bit?
#1986 [13:19] <Phenex> ubuntu? as far as I know 32...
#1987 [13:19] <Phenex> doubt this pc can do 64
#1988 [13:19] <g> http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=47143
#1989 [13:19] <g> go get that
#1990 [13:19] <g> instructions..
#1991 [13:19] <g> ~speak
#1992 [13:19] <g> http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
#1993 [13:19] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 404: Not Found (java.com)
#1994 [13:19] <g> ~stfu
#1995 [13:19] <g> bah
#1996 [13:19] <g> it's not a 404 :P
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#1998 [13:20] <Phenex> Okay, give me a moment.
#1999 [13:20] <Phenex> both links?
#2000 [13:20] <g> yeh
#2001 [13:20] <g> first one is a download
#2002 [13:21] <g> second is the instructions
#2003 [13:21] <Phenex> okay
#2004 [13:22] <Phenex> Im pretty new to ubuntu, where do I type chmod a+x jre-6u<version>-linux-i586.bin
#2005 [13:23] <g> in a terminal window
#2006 [13:23] <g> where did you download java to?
#2007 [13:23] <g> desktop?
#2008 [13:23] <Phenex> it went auto to my downloads folder
#2009 [13:23] <g> ok
#2010 [13:23] <g> open a terminal
#2011 [13:23] <Phenex> did that
#2012 [13:23] <g> type the following:
#2013 [13:23] <g> cd ~/Downloads
#2014 [13:23] <g> chmod a+x jre-6u24-linux-i586.bin
#2015 [13:24] <g> sudo ./jre-6u24-linux-i586.bin
#2016 [13:24] <g> you should be fine from there
#2017 [13:24] <AlexanderDrake> When someone has a moment I need to ask a question
#2018 [13:24] <g> Go for it
#2019 [13:24] <Phenex> Thank you
#2020 [13:24] <g> Phenex: No problem
#2021 [13:26] <g> AlexanderDrake: We're listening :P
#2022 [13:26] <AlexanderDrake> I'm dealing with these odd spikes, my framerate goes from the 60's down to the 20's
#2023 [13:26] <AlexanderDrake> sorry, the phone rang
#2024 [13:26] <g> It's all good
#2025 [13:26] <g> When do you notice them?
#2026 [13:26] <AlexanderDrake> every few seconds
#2027 [13:27] <g> hmm
#2028 [13:27] <g> Does it happen when you stand still?
#2029 [13:27] <AlexanderDrake> testing now
#2030 [13:27] <g> ??>> g index
#2031 [13:27] <Phenex> Idk what to type after all that :S
#2032 [13:27] <g> Phenex: Does it run?
#2033 [13:27] * Phenex is NOT a 1337 h@x0r
#2033 [13:28] <g> It should give you the license
#2034 [13:28] <Phenex> java?
#2035 [13:28] <g> Phenex: Yeah nobody else is either :P
#2036 [13:28] <g> <g> It should give you the license
#2037 [13:28] <g> hold enter until it asks if you agree
#2038 [13:28] <g> then type yes and hit enter
#2039 [13:28] <Phenex> when i tped all those commands, a bunch of stuff starting flying by
#2040 [13:28] * SheSaid [SheSaid@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2041 [13:28] <g> that's right
#2042 [13:28] <Phenex> only word I could catch was inflating
#2043 [13:28] <g> yeah
#2044 [13:28] <g> what does it say now?
#2045 [13:28] <Phenex> it did all that, then went back to the normal command prompt
#2046 [13:29] <g> type java -version
#2047 [13:29] <Phenex> chmod a+x jre-6u<version>-linux-i586.bin
#2048 [13:29] <Phenex> \woops
#2049 [13:29] <Phenex> forgot ctrl c doesnt work lol
#2050 [13:29] <g> :P
#2051 [13:29] <Phenex> * gcj-4.4-jre-headless * gcj-4.5-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
#2052 [13:29] <g> it's CTRL+SHIFT+C
#2053 [13:29] <g> iirc
#2054 [13:29] <Phenex> I know
#2055 [13:29] <g> uh
#2056 [13:29] <g> hm
#2057 [13:29] <g> type ls
#2058 [13:29] <Phenex> I still used to windows, this is my second day on Ubuntu
#2059 [13:29] <g> :P
#2060 [13:30] <AlexanderDrake> it seems to stop when I stay still...
#2061 [13:30] <g> AlexanderDrake: Hmm..
#2062 [13:30] <g> Have you tried one of the following:
#2063 [13:30] <g> - turning on fog,
#2064 [13:30] <g> - turning on fast lighting
#2065 [13:30] <g> - turning on fast graphics
#2066 [13:30] <g> - setting the java process to a higher priority
#2067 [13:30] <g> ?
#2068 [13:31] <AlexanderDrake> not yet, I'll contact you if none of those work
#2069 [13:31] <g> alright
#2070 [13:31] <Phenex> so, I type what? lol
#2071 [13:31] <g> Phenex: ls
#2072 [13:31] <g> what does it say?
#2073 [13:31] <Phenex> is that an I s?
#2074 [13:31] <g> L
#2075 [13:32] <Phenex> Desktop Downloads Music Public Videos Documents examples.desktop Pictures Templates
#2076 [13:32] <g> you cd'd
#2077 [13:32] <g> do uh
#2078 [13:32] <g> ls Downloads
#2079 [13:32] <Phenex> cannot access, no such dir
#2080 [13:32] <g> what?
#2081 [13:32] <g> lol
#2082 [13:33] <g> okay uh
#2083 [13:33] <Phenex> hahahaha
#2084 [13:33] <g> cd Downloads
#2085 [13:33] <Phenex> same thing....
#2086 [13:33] <g> that is.. confusing
#2087 [13:33] <Phenex> ohh..
#2088 [13:33] <Phenex> Im a moron
#2089 [13:33] <g> cd ~/Downloads
#2090 [13:33] * wardedmocha [wardedmocha@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2091 [13:33] <g> caps?
#2092 [13:33] <Phenex> didnt realize it was case senstive
#2093 [13:33] <wardedmocha> hello
#2094 [13:33] <g> hai
#2095 [13:33] * Phenex is a major noob
#2095 [13:33] <g> Phenex: :P
#2096 [13:33] <wardedmocha> i need some help when tou get a chance
#2097 [13:33] <Phenex> so
#2098 [13:33] <g> wardedmocha: I have to go shortly
#2099 [13:33] <Phenex> im at ls downloads
#2100 [13:33] <g> but I'm sure someone can help
#2101 [13:33] * g pokes GreyVulpine
#2101 [13:34] <g> Phenex: ls
#2102 [13:34] <Phenex> jre1.6.0_24 jre-6u24-linux-i586.bin minecraft.jar
#2103 [13:34] <g> oh right
#2104 [13:34] <g> it installed it /there/
#2105 [13:34] <wardedmocha> i am trying to host a minecraft server and when i try to conect to it i get an outdated server erroe
#2106 [13:34] <Phenex> ..oh
#2107 [13:34] <Phenex> lol
#2108 [13:34] <wardedmocha> error
#2109 [13:34] <g> in jre1.6.0_24
#2110 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> wardedmocha - Redownload the minecraft server
#2111 [13:34] <Phenex> update your server...
#2112 [13:34] <g> ok
#2113 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Replace your server with the latest version from minecraft.net wardedmocha
#2114 [13:34] <wardedmocha> the download doesnt work
#2115 [13:35] <g> Phenex: Do this..
#2116 [13:35] <g> cd /urs/bin
#2117 [13:35] <g> wait no
#2118 [13:35] <g> cd /usr/bin
#2119 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean it doesn't work?
#2120 [13:35] * Phenex is doing that
#2120 [13:35] <g> done that?
#2121 [13:35] <wardedmocha> it trys to download then it stops
#2122 [13:35] * Phenex waits for next command
#2122 [13:35] <wardedmocha> and doesnt move
#2123 [13:35] <g> okay
#2124 [13:35] <g> one sec
#2125 [13:35] <Phenex> assume i type things correctly unless I say otherwise
#2126 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> wardedmocha - Try...
#2127 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2128 [13:35] <g> ok, first
#2129 [13:36] <g> Phenex: ls ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/
#2130 [13:36] <AlexanderDrake> what priority would you recommend setting java to?
#2131 [13:36] <g> AlexanderDrake: Higher
#2132 [13:36] <Phenex> high
#2133 [13:36] <Phenex> not real time though
#2134 [13:36] <g> Phenex: ls ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/
#2135 [13:36] <g> :P
#2136 [13:36] <g> gogogo
#2137 [13:36] <g> is there a file called java
#2138 [13:36] <g> or a bin folder?
#2139 [13:36] <Phenex> andrew@andrew-desktop:/usr/bin$ ls ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/ bin javaws man README Welcome.html COPYRIGHT lib plugin THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txtt
#2140 [13:37] <g> Phenex: ok
#2141 [13:37] <g> sec
#2142 [13:37] <g> do this
#2143 [13:37] <Phenex> Indeed
#2144 [13:37] <g> ln -s ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/bin/java
#2145 [13:37] <g> ln -s ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/bin/javaw
#2146 [13:37] <g> wait no
#2147 [13:37] <g> sorry
#2148 [13:37] <Phenex> he
#2149 [13:37] <g> sudo ln -s ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/bin/java
#2150 [13:37] <Phenex> heh*
#2151 [13:37] <g> sudo ln -s ~/Downloads/jre1.6.0_24/bin/javaw
#2152 [13:37] <Phenex> one after the other?
#2153 [13:37] <wardedmocha> where can i find the startup folder in windows 7
#2154 [13:37] <g> yes
#2155 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> wardedmocha - What do you need that for?
#2156 [13:38] <g> wardedmocha: In all programs
#2157 [13:38] <AlexanderDrake> Seems to have worked, Thanks <g>
#2158 [13:38] <g> wardedmocha: Well, just type startup
#2159 [13:38] <g> in the start search
#2160 [13:38] <g> AlexanderDrake: No prob
#2161 [13:38] <Phenex> nothing shows up? it just went to next cmd lline
#2162 [13:38] <AlexanderDrake> I'll come back if anything else comes up
#2163 [13:38] <g> Phenex: That's correct
#2164 [13:38] <g> done them both?
#2165 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> wardedmocha - it's in %appdata%\icrosoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\startup
#2166 [13:38] <wardedmocha> so i can copy the minecraft server exe to it
#2167 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> er, %appdata%\microsoft\...
#2168 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> It'll start each time you start your computer, yes
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#2170 [13:39] <Phenex> yes typed both
#2171 [13:39] <g> ok
#2172 [13:39] <g> java -version
#2173 [13:39] <g> that should work
#2174 [13:39] <Phenex> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#2175 [13:39] <g> there you go
#2176 [13:39] <g> you have java
#2177 [13:39] <Phenex> hurray...
#2178 [13:39] <g> don't move the folder out of your downloads
#2179 [13:39] <g> mk?
#2180 [13:39] <Phenex> now I can minecraft finally
#2181 [13:39] <wardedmocha> thanks
#2182 [13:39] <Phenex> after 12 hours of working on it...
#2183 [13:39] <g> no, not quite
#2184 [13:40] <Phenex> oh
#2185 [13:40] <Phenex> well dan
#2186 [13:40] <Phenex> damn*
#2187 [13:40] <g> what browser are you?
#2188 [13:40] <Phenex> firefox, came with it
#2189 [13:40] <g> type this:
#2190 [13:40] <g> which firefox
#2191 [13:40] <g> what does it say?
#2192 [13:40] <Phenex> not sure, it was default with ubuntu
#2193 [13:40] <Phenex> one second
#2194 [13:40] <Phenex> 3.6.10
#2195 [13:41] <g> not what I meant
#2196 [13:41] <g> look I have to go
#2197 [13:41] <g> someone help him follow this: http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#enable
#2198 [13:41] * gAway2002 pokes GreyVulpine
#2198 [13:41] <gAway2002> afk
#2199 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> okay
#2200 [13:41] <Phenex> lame
#2201 [13:42] <mitpatterson_> don't trust GreyVulpine he'll have someone do something they have no clue about and then bork their computer
#2202 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2203 [13:42] <Phenex> I see.....Thanks then...
#2204 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> I didn't bork anybody's computer..
#2205 [13:42] <mitpatterson_> like that guy he had go to the console and then ever came back
#2206 [13:42] <Phenex> I wait till Xales is around...hes great help
#2207 [13:42] <mitpatterson_> oh wait, its the same guy isn'it it?
#2208 [13:42] <Phenex> yes...
#2209 [13:42] <Phenex> I need help still
#2210 [13:43] <mitpatterson_> lol, sorry
#2211 [13:43] <Phenex> he didnt finish helping me
#2212 [13:43] <mitpatterson_> just don't go to the console again
#2213 [13:43] <Phenex> ...
#2214 [13:43] <Phenex> ...great
#2215 [13:43] <Phenex> so you guys are useless is what your saying lol
#2216 [13:43] <mitpatterson_> odd... i was playing single player clicking to cut down a tree, and bam gone
#2217 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> If mitpatterson_ doesn't have any confidence in me, then I'll stay out of it.
#2218 [13:44] <mitpatterson_> and by gone i mean the program crashed
#2219 [13:44] <mitpatterson_> i'm just messing with you GreyVulpine you know more than i do in this regard(linux)
#2220 [13:44] <Phenex> well, in reality I trust G and I got no idea who he is..
#2221 [13:44] <Phenex> so you might as well help
#2222 [13:44] <Phenex> it's not like this computer is worth anything if you destory it....
#2223 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> So where are you right now?
#2224 [13:45] <Phenex> I dont know....
#2225 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> You've got java installed?
#2226 [13:45] <Phenex> He said I did..
#2227 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay, did you get the minecraft_server.jar from the website?
#2228 [13:45] <Phenex> Im not the server guy
#2229 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2230 [13:45] <Phenex> my computer would implode if I wanted a server on here.
#2231 [13:46] <mitpatterson_> think he want so to play the game
#2232 [13:46] <mitpatterson_> so minecraft.jar right?
#2233 [13:46] <Phenex> ive already got that
#2234 [13:46] <TheNytangel> ..
#2235 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh, then head to the directory where you have minecraft.jar
#2236 [13:47] <Phenex> Done
#2237 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Use:
#2238 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2239 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> er, make sure it's minecraft.jar
#2240 [13:47] <Phenex> type that where
#2241 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> In the terminal
#2242 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Or right click on the icon and choose "open with java..."
#2243 [13:48] <Phenex> right click open with does not list java...
#2244 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. right click on it, go to properties
#2245 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Make it an executable.
#2246 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Then see if you get the "open with.." prompt with java again
#2247 [13:49] <Phenex> executable is already enabled as program, under permissions tab
#2248 [13:49] * lern [lern@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2249 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> okay, where is minecraft.jar?
#2250 [13:49] <lern> Scuse me?
#2251 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> downloads?
#2252 [13:49] <Phenex> downloads
#2253 [13:49] <lern> Er
#2254 [13:49] <Phenex> was the defult folder
#2255 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> okay, go back to the terminal
#2256 [13:50] <lern> MC.JAR is in appdata/roaming/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2257 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> lern - I wasn't talking to you
#2258 [13:50] <lern> Scuse me!
#2259 [13:50] <Phenex> Anyways..
#2260 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - in the terminal, do: cd ~\Downloads
#2261 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> ā€¢TheNytangelā€¢
#2262 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> er
#2263 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Then
#2264 [13:50] <TheNytangel> wut
#2265 [13:50] <mitpatterson_> who lern? another bot? whos bot?
#2266 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> damn tabautocomplete, sorry
#2267 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp mnecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2268 [13:51] <TheNytangel> :)
#2269 [13:51] <Phenex> No command 'do:' found, did you mean: Command 'dot' from package 'graphviz' (main) do:: command not found
#2270 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> er, dangit
#2271 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Just
#2272 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> cd ~\Downloads
#2273 [13:51] <Phenex> i did
#2274 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> then
#2275 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2276 [13:52] <Phenex> it says no such directory or folder when I type the first line.
#2277 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> For, cd ~/Downloads?
#2278 [13:52] <Phenex> yes
#2279 [13:52] <Phenex> bash: cd: ~Downloads: No such file or directory
#2280 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Did you see ~ / Downloads
#2281 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> There's a slash between the ~ and Downloads
#2282 [13:53] <Phenex> I copied exatly what you typed from here.
#2283 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Was there a slash between ~ and Downloads?
#2284 [13:53] <Phenex> yes
#2285 [13:53] <Phenex> cd ~\Downloads
#2286 [13:53] <Phenex> I havent typed a single command, Ive done all copy paste
#2287 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> try cd ~/Downloads
#2288 [13:54] <Phenex> got it
#2289 [13:54] <Phenex> then the second one
#2290 [13:54] <Phenex> You are a God!
#2291 [13:54] <Phenex> ll
#2292 [13:54] <Phenex> lol
#2293 [13:55] * GreyVulpine pffts
#2293 [13:55] <Phenex> haha
#2294 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Now. lern, did you need something?
#2295 [13:55] <Phenex> Thanks
#2296 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing Phenex
#2297 [13:55] <lern> Yes.
#2298 [13:55] <mitpatterson_> who is lern? is it a bot?
#2299 [13:55] <lern> Well, not that much.
#2300 [13:55] <TheNytangel> no
#2301 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> How can we help you lern?
#2302 [13:55] <TheNytangel> lol
#2303 [13:55] <TheNytangel> to me that looks like a pun
#2304 [13:56] * Phenex 's computer DID NOT explode! Trust GreyVupline!
#2304 [13:56] <lern> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew any server which could help me out in testing a texture pack I had created to see chainmail.
#2305 [13:56] <Phenex> hahaha
#2306 [13:56] <Phenex> I will be back shortly
#2307 [13:56] <Phenex> hopefully my idea of running minecraft on ubuntu works...
#2308 [13:57] * obi_wan [obi_wan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2309 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> lern - You just want to get a server to give you fire so you can get chainmail?
#2310 [13:58] * Pudex [Pudex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2311 [13:58] <lern> Well.
#2312 [13:58] <lern> I could work with that, but that's not what I WANT.
#2313 [13:58] <lern> I or
#2314 [13:58] <lern> Wait
#2315 [13:59] <lern> Yes, that's what I want.
#2316 [13:59] <lern> I'd like to see how my texture pack's chainmail works
#2317 [13:59] <lern> after I played around with it.
#2318 [14:00] * Phenex [Phenex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2319 [14:01] <Phenex> minecfraft crashed as soon as I ran it....
#2320 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> crashed with..
#2321 [14:01] <Phenex> well, as soon as I logged in and downloaded the packages
#2322 [14:01] <lern> Grey, do you know any such server?
#2323 [14:01] <mitpatterson_> lern if all you need is someone to let you on and then "give" you fire or what ever, i can do it on min3'
#2324 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Try GreyVulpine.dyndns.org
#2325 [14:01] <mitpatterson_> mine*
#2326 [14:02] <Phenex> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#2327 [14:02] <Phenex> hmph..
#2328 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com it?
#2329 [14:03] <Phenex> never used that but sure.
#2330 [14:03] <Phenex> one second
#2331 [14:03] <lern> mitpattersen, that'd be grat.
#2332 [14:03] <lern> What's the ip/link/etc?
#2333 [14:03] <mitpatterson_> 65.186.89.194
#2334 [14:04] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/70VfC8er
#2335 [14:04] <xabo> !isdown minecraft.net
#2336 [14:04] <GreyBot> xabo: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2337 [14:07] <Phenex> any verdict?
#2338 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Hm
#2339 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the output of: ps -a
#2340 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Lists all the processes running on your machine
#2341 [14:10] <Phenex> okay
#2342 [14:11] <Phenex> PID TTY TIME CMD 2254 pts/0 00:00:00 ps
#2343 [14:11] <Phenex> thats all that came up in the terminal
#2344 [14:11] * relsqui blinks
#2344 [14:12] <Phenex> bad? lol
#2345 [14:13] <relsqui> no, that actually makes no sense :)
#2346 [14:13] <relsqui> the command would not have worked if you didn't have a shell to run it on :P
#2347 [14:13] <Phenex> i see.
#2348 [14:13] <Phenex> how do i get out of the downloads folder in terminal?
#2349 [14:13] <relsqui> did you include the -a?
#2350 [14:13] * Phenex is beyond noob at this point
#2350 [14:13] <relsqui> where would you like to be instead?
#2351 [14:14] <Phenex> does it matter for typing that command?
#2352 [14:14] <relsqui> nope
#2353 [14:14] <relsqui> wait
#2354 [14:14] <relsqui> what directory you're in doesn't
#2355 [14:14] <relsqui> the -a does.
#2356 [14:14] <Phenex> i typed ps -a
#2357 [14:14] <Phenex> well
#2358 [14:14] <relsqui> ps says "what are all the process I'm running in this shell right now"
#2359 [14:14] <Phenex> I copied and pasted.
#2360 [14:14] <relsqui> ps -a "what are all the processes running everywhere on this machine right now"
#2361 [14:14] <relsqui> it's not actually possible for the answer to the latter to only be ps
#2362 [14:14] <relsqui> but it's quite probable for the former
#2363 [14:14] <Phenex> I typed it 3 times
#2364 [14:15] <Phenex> all with the same output
#2365 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't get it
#2366 [14:15] * Phenex welcomes you to the club
#2366 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Is Ubuntu special somehow? I don't freakin get it
#2367 [14:15] <relsqui> heh, no longer running it around here or I'd check
#2368 [14:15] <Phenex> I freshly installed last night, if that makes a difference
#2369 [14:16] <relsqui> shouldn't
#2370 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't make sense for a *nix kernel
#2371 [14:16] <relsqui> just for fun, try, like, ps -fu <your username>
#2372 [14:16] <relsqui> no brackets
#2373 [14:16] <relsqui> that sounds rude but it's an actual command I swear
#2374 [14:16] <Phenex> a whole fuck ton of stuff flew by
#2375 [14:16] <relsqui> (but the fact that it sounds rude is how I remember it XD)
#2376 [14:16] <Phenex> nothing I can understand lol
#2377 [14:16] <relsqui> okay, good, that's promising
#2378 [14:17] <relsqui> that should tell you all the stuff *you're* running
#2379 [14:17] <Phenex> I am the only user
#2380 [14:17] <Phenex> so shouldnt what Im running be what everywhere is?
#2381 [14:18] <relsqui> not necessarily. stuff starts/runs automatically
#2382 [14:18] <Phenex> interesting
#2383 [14:19] <relsqui> this is what -a is for -_-
#2384 [14:19] <Phenex> ill try again
#2385 [14:19] <Phenex> same output
#2386 [14:19] <Phenex> as before
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#2388 [14:22] * Phenex assumes everyone is stumped
#2388 [14:23] * Phenex just wants to play Minecraft! :'(
#2388 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Usually, that error you gave me, means that java/minecraft is already running
#2389 [14:23] <Phenex> maybe I should reset and try again?
#2390 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> I'd like to confirm that with a ps -a command, so we can kill the duplicate process
#2391 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> But I can't do that.. and I don't know why it's only giving you the ps command
#2392 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> It.. doesn't make sense
#2393 [14:24] <Phenex> Would a reset fix this?
#2394 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps..
#2395 [14:24] <Phenex> I will be back momentarily then
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#2397 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> !check
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#2400 [14:30] <Phenex> What was the launcher command again? :)
#2401 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> You can find the command here
#2402 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2403 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2404 [14:32] <Phenex> Thanks
#2405 [14:33] <Phenex> erg... big error now
#2406 [14:34] <Phenex> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClas
#2407 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Needs to be in the same directory where you have minecraft.jar
#2408 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> remember to do: cd ~/Downloads
#2409 [14:35] <Phenex> woops
#2410 [14:35] <Phenex> I apologise for being such a noob haha
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#2412 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> No need
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#2414 [14:37] <Phenex> crashed
#2415 [14:37] <Phenex> appears to be the same
#2416 [14:38] <Phenex> ps -a?
#2417 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com it?
#2418 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Let us see if it's still the same?
#2419 [14:40] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/scyF7dPZ
#2420 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it is.
#2421 [14:41] <Phenex> I typed ps -a
#2422 [14:41] <Phenex> and nothing happened this time
#2423 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#2424 [14:42] <Phenex> I know it can run the game
#2425 [14:42] <Phenex> I'll explain
#2426 [14:42] <Phenex> Ive been playing on Windows XP
#2427 [14:42] <Phenex> but experiencing lag
#2428 [14:42] <Phenex> so, Xales and a few others suggested I try Ubuntu because it uses WAY less rsources and could reduce my lag
#2429 [14:42] <Phenex> which now brings us here because I am uber noob
#2430 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> I know, do you know what video card you have?
#2431 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> You'll probably need to download and install them
#2432 [14:43] <Phenex> ohh drivers?
#2433 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2434 [14:43] <Phenex> How do I check for drivers on Ubuntu?
#2435 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#2436 [14:43] <Phenex> yes, sorry onesecond
#2437 [14:44] <Phenex> actually, don't know where to find out on here
#2438 [14:44] <Phenex> I believe its Intel 845G
#2439 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Can you look at the output of: lspc
#2440 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Look for the graphics heading
#2441 [14:47] <Phenex> command not found? :S
#2442 [14:47] <Phenex> I copied pasted that
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#2444 [14:48] <Phenex> lspci?
#2445 [14:48] <Phenex> thats a command its suggesting
#2446 [14:49] <Wug> what're we talking about
#2447 [14:49] <Phenex> read the pastebin error above
#2448 [14:49] <Phenex> trying to get minecraft working on ubuntu for me
#2449 [14:49] <Phenex> keeps crashing when I loggin
#2450 [14:50] <Phenex> oops
#2451 [14:50] <Phenex> above...silly me
#2452 [14:50] <Phenex> one second
#2453 [14:50] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/scyF7dPZ
#2454 [14:50] <Wug> you're using the restricted drivers right?
#2455 [14:50] <Phenex> I think thats what were trying to figure out
#2456 [14:50] <Phenex> Vulpine gave me a command to check grpahics card and it didnt work
#2457 [14:51] <Wug> you have gnome?
#2458 [14:51] <Wug> ubuntu desktop?
#2459 [14:51] <Phenex> As far as I know?
#2460 [14:51] <Phenex> yes
#2461 [14:51] <Phenex> I am in terminal
#2462 [14:51] <Phenex> and he is giving commands to me to help
#2463 [14:51] <Wug> there should be a hardware drivers option in the administration menu
#2464 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Wug - I'm trying to determin Phenex's video card, so he can update the drivers
#2465 [14:52] <Wug> what graphics card do you have
#2466 [14:52] <mitpatterson_> and NOT telling him to go to the consol
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#2468 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu and its gnome GUI
#2469 [14:52] <Phenex> there is a Additonal Drivers option under Admin menu
#2470 [14:52] <Wug> phenex, do you also have windows installed?
#2471 [14:53] <Phenex> Yes. Dual boot
#2472 [14:53] <Wug> does windows know what graphics card you have?
#2473 [14:53] <Phenex> Yes, but I would need to restart to find out
#2474 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> He wiped windows
#2475 [14:53] <Phenex> Its intel 845G......with a few more after it
#2476 [14:53] <Phenex> I didnt wipe windows
#2477 [14:53] <Phenex> windows is exactly how I left it
#2478 [14:53] <Wug> oh, an integrated intel thing
#2479 [14:53] <Wug> uuhhh
#2480 [14:54] <Phenex> Unfortunetly :/
#2481 [14:54] <Wug> try the additional drivers option
#2482 [14:54] <Phenex> "searching foravailable drivers"
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#2484 [14:54] <Wug> if theres anything there for graphics, update to the most recent
#2485 [14:55] <Phenex> List is empty.
#2486 [14:55] <Wug> what java are you using? from the terminal use java -version
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#2488 [14:55] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/scyF7dPZ
#2489 [14:55] <Phenex> shit
#2490 [14:55] <Phenex> woops
#2491 [14:55] <Phenex> ignore that
#2492 [14:56] <Phenex> still not used to ctril alt copy
#2493 [14:56] <Phenex> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#2494 [14:56] <Phenex> g helped me install it earlier before he had to leave
#2495 [14:56] <Phenex> I assumed it was the most recent version
#2496 [14:58] <Wug> is it the sun java or the openjdk
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#2498 [14:58] <Phenex> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#2499 [14:58] <Phenex> that was the entire output
#2500 [14:58] <Wug> ok
#2501 [14:58] <Wug> uhh
#2502 [14:59] * Phenex is now on the 3rd person helping him....3rd times a charm! :/
#2502 [14:59] <Wug> this is a laptop I presume
#2503 [15:00] <Phenex> No
#2504 [15:00] <Wug> ?
#2505 [15:00] <Phenex> Desktop
#2506 [15:00] <Wug> a desktop with integrated intel graphics?
#2507 [15:00] <Phenex> Yes.
#2508 [15:00] <Phenex> Its very old.
#2509 [15:00] <Wug> can you get a graphics card for it?
#2510 [15:00] <Wug> that would probably fix this
#2511 [15:00] <Wug> i can't think of anything else
#2512 [15:01] <Phenex> Not right this moment?
#2513 [15:01] <Phenex> I was running the game on windows already
#2514 [15:01] <Phenex> the card can do it
#2515 [15:01] <Phenex> I was just suggested to run Ubuntu because it cuts down on system resources
#2516 [15:01] <Wug> i have no idea how to make linux agree with it though
#2517 [15:01] <Phenex> and that it could help me with lag, by aving more available CPU or whatever
#2518 [15:01] <Phenex> it being my card?
#2519 [15:02] <Wug> the reason you have lag is most likely that you have integrated intel graphics
#2520 [15:02] <Wug> which are known to suck.
#2521 [15:02] <Phenex> no kidding :P
#2522 [15:02] <Wug> if you had a discrete card it would perform much better
#2523 [15:02] <Phenex> I know
#2524 [15:02] <Phenex> the issue being, its pci
#2525 [15:02] <Phenex> so I cant really upgrade THAT much
#2526 [15:02] <Wug> you can probably find one that's minecraft capable for cheap on newegg
#2527 [15:03] <Phenex> Can you suggest one?
#2528 [15:03] * Phenex is uber noob
#2528 [15:03] <Wug> pci, you say?
#2529 [15:03] <Wug> you're sure
#2530 [15:03] <Phenex> Yeah :/
#2531 [15:03] <Wug> not pcie or agp?
#2532 [15:03] <Phenex> Positive, Ive upgraded the ram
#2533 [15:03] <Wug> ram doesn't go in pci slots
#2534 [15:03] <Phenex> if I was on pci-e I would have got a card a LONG time ago
#2535 [15:03] <Phenex> err
#2536 [15:04] <Phenex> I meant to say wireless internet
#2537 [15:04] <Phenex> lol
#2538 [15:04] <Wug> ok
#2539 [15:04] <Phenex> I baught a wireless card
#2540 [15:04] <Wug> lol
#2541 [15:04] <Phenex> Its 100% pci.
#2542 [15:04] <Phenex> I have done the ram as well though
#2543 [15:05] <Phenex> (I am from Canada, please use the Canadian newegg
#2544 [15:08] <Wug> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130477
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#2546 [15:08] <JonathanS> hey guys
#2547 [15:08] <Wug> I have a desktop at home (an old one like yours)
#2548 [15:08] <JonathanS> i really need help
#2549 [15:08] <Wug> with the agp version of that card. it can play it at 1920x1080
#2550 [15:08] <JonathanS> with my mob grinder
#2551 [15:08] <Wug> not flawlessly, but it can do it
#2552 [15:08] <Wug> phenex
#2553 [15:09] <Wug> jon, what seems to be the problem
#2554 [15:09] <JonathanS> well you see i made a mob grinder
#2555 [15:09] <Wug> i figured that much
#2556 [15:09] <JonathanS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gPSQ6wPuvo
#2557 [15:09] <JonathanS> this one
#2558 [15:10] <JonathanS> and well when monsters spawn on their levels they just stay there and dont wander to the trap doors
#2559 [15:10] <JonathanS> or the conveyors
#2560 [15:10] <JonathanS> you know anything about mob grinders?
#2561 [15:11] <JonathanS> if you do maybe you could go on my server and help me
#2562 [15:11] <Wug> hang on im watching the video
#2563 [15:12] <JonathanS> ok
#2564 [15:12] <Phenex> How do I know what version of pci I have? ( 1.0, 2.0, 2.1?)
#2565 [15:15] <Wug> phenex, you can look that up on the intetnet. they're color coded and different sizes. you will have to look at the inside of the computer
#2566 [15:16] <Wug> jon, mobs won't jump off of cliffs
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#2568 [15:16] <mib_xeocmp> ..
#2569 [15:16] <mib_xeocmp> okay
#2570 [15:16] <mib_xeocmp> anyone up to helping me?
#2571 [15:16] <mib_xeocmp> :D?
#2572 [15:16] <Wug> your third floor needs conveyors too
#2573 [15:16] <mib_xeocmp> or no..
#2574 [15:17] <Wug> as do all of the others
#2575 [15:17] <Wug> ill help
#2576 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> finally
#2577 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> okay
#2578 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> im really new
#2579 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> to minecraft
#2580 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> so new
#2581 [15:17] <Wug> does this have anything to do with mods
#2582 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> ive never played
#2583 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> and no
#2584 [15:17] <Wug> ok
#2585 [15:17] <JonathanS> oh really?
#2586 [15:17] <Wug> yeah
#2587 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> it wont allow me to play.
#2588 [15:17] <JonathanS> but he has spawning floors
#2589 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> it says
#2590 [15:17] <Wug> jon: they won't jump off
#2591 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> switching applets
#2592 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> and freezes
#2593 [15:17] <JonathanS> without conveyors
#2594 [15:17] <mib_xeocmp> ..
#2595 [15:18] <Wug> mib: ?
#2596 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> for the game.
#2597 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> such as classic
#2598 [15:18] <JonathanS> and even when they spawn on the conveyor floors they won't go into the conveyors
#2599 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> i went to the site
#2600 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> went to single player and multi
#2601 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> both say
#2602 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> switching applets
#2603 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> when i start the game
#2604 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> and it freezes
#2605 [15:18] <Wug> mib: do you have the right version of java?
#2606 [15:18] <mib_xeocmp> yes..
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#2608 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> ive done all the things i could
#2609 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> to try to fix it
#2610 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> ive redownloaded java
#2611 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> i got jdk
#2612 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> i got the right version
#2613 [15:19] <Wug> jon: try putting conveyors toward the center of the room. there are also lots of mob trap schematics on the forums, you could check there
#2614 [15:19] <Wug> mib, what os/system specs do you have
#2615 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> hmm?
#2616 [15:19] <JonathanS> ive tried butit doesnt work
#2617 [15:19] <mib_xeocmp> i got windows xp?
#2618 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> if that helps.
#2619 [15:20] <Wug> are you sure java isnt broken?
#2620 [15:20] <Wug> this seems to be a java is broken problem
#2621 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> why would it be broken?
#2622 [15:20] <JonathanS> wug do you think you could help em ingame?
#2623 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> i know its a java problem
#2624 [15:20] <Wug> jon: if you wanted to die
#2625 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> but
#2626 [15:20] <relsqui> mib_xeocmp: you're trying it in a browser, it sounds like? which browser?
#2627 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> idk what to do
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#2629 [15:20] <Wug> mib, have you tried the downloadable client?
#2630 [15:20] <mib_xeocmp> ive tried
#2631 [15:20] <Wug> !client
#2632 [15:21] <mib_xeocmp> chrome firefox and internet explorer
#2633 [15:21] <mib_xeocmp> hold on
#2634 [15:21] <mib_xeocmp> let me try
#2635 [15:21] <relsqui> and the exact same thing happens in each?
#2636 [15:21] <mib_xeocmp> !client
#2637 [15:21] <Josh790> hello all
#2638 [15:21] <Wug> greyvulpine, im leavling soon
#2639 [15:21] * VoxelHead returns
#2639 [15:21] <Wug> pick it up for me
#2640 [15:21] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2641 [15:21] <Wug> vox, are you capable of helping people?
#2642 [15:21] <VoxelHead> Only because my elbow imploded.
#2643 [15:21] <Wug> no.
#2644 [15:22] <Wug> bad vox
#2645 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> wug
#2646 [15:22] <Wug> yes?
#2647 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> it freezes
#2648 [15:22] <Wug> when
#2649 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> when i start the game
#2650 [15:22] <Wug> how far does it get
#2651 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> it says log in
#2652 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> i do
#2653 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> then it freezes
#2654 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> and goes black
#2655 [15:22] <relsqui> weird.
#2656 [15:22] <mib_xeocmp> yea..
#2657 [15:22] <relsqui> do you have any older versions of java still installed?
#2658 [15:22] <Wug> what's your mc username?
#2659 [15:22] <relsqui> should be able to see them through the add/remove programs menu
#2660 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> paul1232
#2661 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> i think.
#2662 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> yup
#2663 [15:23] <Wug> you're sure?
#2664 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> yea
#2665 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> just checked
#2666 [15:23] <Wug> did you buy the game?
#2667 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> im not asking for the beta
#2668 [15:23] <mib_xeocmp> im asking for classic.
#2669 [15:23] <Wug> ok, so this is classic only
#2670 [15:23] <Wug> the downloaded version is beta only
#2671 [15:24] <mib_xeocmp> yea.
#2672 [15:24] <Wug> so that won't work
#2673 [15:24] <mib_xeocmp> ns.
#2674 [15:24] <mib_xeocmp> but the classic wont work either
#2675 [15:24] <relsqui> mib_xeocmp: did you catch the question about older versions of java?
#2676 [15:24] <Wug> ^
#2677 [15:24] <relsqui> I saw you say you had the latest, but sometimes there are also old ones hanging around
#2678 [15:24] <relsqui> which can cause problems
#2679 [15:24] <Wug> try checking add/remove programs for older versions
#2680 [15:25] <mib_xeocmp> 1sec
#2681 [15:25] <Wug> if there aren't any, try uninstalling all of them and reinstalling
#2682 [15:25] <Wug> just the most recent version
#2683 [15:25] <Phenex> Wug, you know anyone who could help me with the issue, before I order a new card
#2684 [15:25] <Wug> phenex: have you tried the forums?
#2685 [15:26] <Phenex> No, but that is a very long process
#2686 [15:26] <Wug> if they can't help and we can't then I have no idea
#2687 [15:26] <Wug> its not so long
#2688 [15:26] <mib_xeocmp> does jdk affect it?
#2689 [15:26] <Phenex> I know that Xales guy could probably tell me what to do in a second lol
#2690 [15:26] <Wug> do you have the jvm?
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#2692 [15:26] <Wug> jre*
#2693 [15:26] <mib_xeocmp> ?..
#2694 [15:26] <mib_xeocmp> i got jdk
#2695 [15:26] <Wug> stupid java and all of the different things
#2696 [15:26] <mib_xeocmp> java development kit
#2697 [15:26] <Wug> make sure you have the jre
#2698 [15:26] <Josh790> i'm having a problem with minecraft and ubuntu, if anyone has the time
#2699 [15:27] <Wug> java runtime environment
#2700 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> jre?
#2701 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> sadjhgadsfh
#2702 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> i need jre?
#2703 [15:27] <Wug> yep
#2704 [15:27] <Phenex> Join the club josh790
#2705 [15:27] <Wug> maybe thats the problem
#2706 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> got a link?
#2707 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> maybe
#2708 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> if it is
#2709 [15:27] <Wug> ummm www.java.com ?
#2710 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> lol..
#2711 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> fine
#2712 [15:27] <Bob_Sack> loool
#2713 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> ill do all the work
#2714 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> lol
#2715 [15:27] <Wug> i can't install java for you.
#2716 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> i meant
#2717 [15:27] <mib_xeocmp> a link
#2718 [15:27] <Wug> josh, fire away
#2719 [15:28] <Josh790> i'm having a hard time getting a script together to launch it with more ram
#2720 [15:28] <Josh790> if i run it as is, java gives it like 133MB
#2721 [15:28] <Josh790> and i end up with 14FPS
#2722 [15:29] <Josh790> i can't get a launcher to work either
#2723 [15:29] <Wug> do you know anything about bash?
#2724 [15:29] <Josh790> very little
#2725 [15:29] <Wug> well
#2726 [15:29] <Wug> bash scripts start with:
#2727 [15:29] <Wug> #!/bin/bash
#2728 [15:29] <Josh790> right
#2729 [15:30] <Wug> then you'd just include the command that you want to use
#2730 [15:30] <Wug> so something like:
#2731 [15:30] <mib_xeocmp> wug
#2732 [15:30] <mib_xeocmp> i cant really find it
#2733 [15:30] <Wug> java -Xms256m -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#2734 [15:30] <JonathanS> wug so thats a no?
#2735 [15:30] <Wug> you may have to use an explicit path
#2736 [15:31] <Wug> jon, yes, that's a no.
#2737 [15:31] <JonathanS> ok
#2738 [15:31] <Josh790> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com
#2739 [15:31] <Josh790> for mib
#2740 [15:31] <mib_xeocmp> tyvm
#2741 [15:31] <Josh790> so wug, if i needed to include an explicit path, it would be something like:
#2742 [15:31] <Wug> mib: pick your operating system, then download
#2743 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> um..
#2744 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> i downloaded that
#2745 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> already?
#2746 [15:32] <Wug> install it?
#2747 [15:32] <Josh790> java -Xms256m -Xmx1G -jar /home/josh/minecraft.jar ?
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#2749 [15:32] <VoxelHead> do you really want to know that?
#2750 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> should i download the offline or online
#2751 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> one
#2752 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> ?
#2753 [15:32] <Wug> josh yes
#2754 [15:32] <Wug> mib, go for the offline
#2755 [15:32] <mib_xeocmp> okay
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#2757 [15:32] <Josh790> thank you
#2758 [15:33] <Phenex> Wug, do you if I was running Sun Java or OpenJDK
#2759 [15:33] <Phenex> do you recall*
#2760 [15:33] <Wug> i think you had sun
#2761 [15:33] <Wug> but I wasn't sure
#2762 [15:33] <mib_xeocmp> brb
#2763 [15:33] <Wug> I didn't see sun or openjdk in your -version
#2764 [15:34] <Phenex> Idk what kind of Java that other guy installed for me...
#2765 [15:34] <Wug> can you check the software center to see what's installed?
#2766 [15:34] <Phenex> someone by the name "g" helped me install java
#2767 [15:34] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
#2768 [15:34] <VoxelHead> Mmm |_ocke.
#2769 [15:34] <Wug> vox, wtf
#2770 [15:35] <Morrolan> That bot is rather awesome. :D
#2771 [15:35] <Wug> i knoew
#2772 [15:35] <Wug> i like to talk to it
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#2774 [15:35] <Josh790> wug: i feel kinda dumb now.
#2775 [15:35] * mib_8xdxv9 [mib_8xdxv9@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2776 [15:35] <Wug> voxelhead, full power to noodle cannons!!!!@$%1
#2777 [15:35] <mib_8xdxv9> im back
#2778 [15:35] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#2779 [15:35] <mib_8xdxv9> wug?
#2780 [15:36] <mib_8xdxv9> wug
#2781 [15:36] <Wug> yes?
#2782 [15:36] <mib_8xdxv9> idk if it worked
#2783 [15:36] <mib_8xdxv9> or not
#2784 [15:36] <Josh790> my bash was right from the get-go, but i forgot to put "m" after the memory amounts.
#2785 [15:36] <Phenex> Where in my software center is my java info
#2786 [15:36] <Wug> i have no idea
#2787 [15:36] <Phenex> hmph okay
#2788 [15:36] <mib_8xdxv9> let me try
#2789 [15:36] <Morrolan> Phenex, why don't you just use java -version ?
#2790 [15:36] <Wug> search for java, and see if any of the results are installed
#2791 [15:36] <Wug> java-version is inconclusive
#2792 [15:36] <Phenex> I did and it didnt display Sun or OpenJDK
#2793 [15:36] <Morrolan> Oh, ok.
#2794 [15:37] <Josh790> thanks for your help
#2795 [15:37] <Wug> if you check if openjdk is installed, that should give us an answer
#2796 [15:37] <Phenex> openjdk java6 runtime is the first one
#2797 [15:37] <mib_8xdxv9> umm
#2798 [15:37] <mib_8xdxv9> now its not even showing the screen
#2799 [15:37] <Wug> anyway, I have a meeting to go to
#2800 [15:37] <Phenex> and icetea plugin?
#2801 [15:37] <Wug> mib, did you uninstall the old one first
#2802 [15:37] <Phenex> should i get rid of those and get sunjava?
#2803 [15:37] <mib_8xdxv9> mhm
#2804 [15:38] <Wug> phenex, yes
#2805 [15:38] <Phenex> all three?
#2806 [15:38] <Phenex> there two openjdk and one icedtea
#2807 [15:38] <Wug> i guess.
#2808 [15:38] <Wug> don't know about the iced tes
#2809 [15:38] <Wug> getting the sun java is a pain
#2810 [15:38] <Phenex> I read somewhere it was not the right one
#2811 [15:39] <Wug> i really do have to go.
#2812 [15:39] <Wug> sorry.
#2813 [15:39] <Phenex> No worries
#2814 [15:39] <Phenex> Have a goodday and thanks for the help
#2815 [15:39] <Wug> GREYVULPINE COME BACK
#2816 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2817 [15:39] <Phenex> Wow
#2818 [15:39] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#2819 [15:39] <Phenex> that was easy
#2820 [15:39] <Wug> ppl need help and i have to go
#2821 [15:39] <mib_8xdxv9> grey
#2822 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2823 [15:39] <mib_8xdxv9> mind if i ask you somethin?
#2824 [15:39] * Phenex ambushes greyvulpine
#2824 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> About?
#2825 [15:39] <Phenex> lol
#2826 [15:39] <mib_8xdxv9> i downloaded java
#2827 [15:39] <Wug> voxelhead, could you kick wug? he has to go,
#2828 [15:39] <mib_8xdxv9> it used to say
#2829 [15:39] <mib_8xdxv9> switching applets
#2830 [15:40] <mib_8xdxv9> and then it froze
#2831 [15:40] <mib_8xdxv9> and went black
#2832 [15:40] <mib_8xdxv9> now its not showing the game at all
#2833 [15:40] <mib_8xdxv9> in classic
#2834 [15:40] <Wug> guess hes not in kick mode... oh well
#2835 [15:40] <mib_8xdxv9> ive never played the game before
#2836 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> ..
#2837 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> ugh
#2838 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> not gonna help?
#2839 [15:41] <Phenex> Give him a minute..
#2840 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> a minute?
#2841 [15:41] <Phenex> Try being patient
#2842 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> im very impatient at the moment
#2843 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean? Have you tried updating video drivers? java?
#2844 [15:41] <Phenex> Lol.
#2845 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> What versions?
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#2847 [15:41] <mib_8xdxv9> everything
#2848 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Define: "Everything"
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#2850 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> ive done everything support forums said
#2851 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> ive redownloaded java
#2852 [15:42] <Phenex> oh that clears it up
#2853 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> deleted old forms
#2854 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> tried different things such as
#2855 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> internet browsers
#2856 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> i mean
#2857 [15:42] <mib_8xdxv9> such as chrome,firefox,internet explorer
#2858 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried updating your video drivers?
#2859 [15:43] * [Husky]Shnaw [[Husky]Shnaw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2860 [15:43] <mib_8xdxv9> all dont work
#2861 [15:43] <VoxelHead> No, but it does make me horny.
#2862 [15:43] <mib_8xdxv9> my video drivers are fine.
#2863 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> How do you know that?
#2864 [15:43] <mib_8xdxv9> because i can play games with far better graphics than this and hella of alot more memory
#2865 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Can you name one OpenGL game?
#2866 [15:43] <mib_8xdxv9> opengl?
#2867 [15:43] <mib_8xdxv9> yo
#2868 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Because I can bet you that not one of those games run OpenGL
#2869 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> grey.
#2870 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Now, have you updated your video drivers
#2871 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> can you just help me out
#2872 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> I'm asking a simple question
#2873 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> how the hell
#2874 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> am i gonna do that?
#2875 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Have. You. Updated. Your. Video. Drivers.
#2876 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what operating system are you on?
#2877 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> i heard you the first 3 times.
#2878 [15:44] <mib_8xdxv9> xp.
#2879 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me a dxdiag of your system?
#2880 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> ?? dxdiag
#2881 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#2882 [15:45] <mib_8xdxv9> ..
#2883 [15:45] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2884 [15:45] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2885 [15:45] <Phenex> got love bots
#2886 [15:45] <mib_8xdxv9> win+r?..
#2887 [15:45] <mib_8xdxv9> wth is that?
#2888 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R key
#2889 [15:45] <Phenex> windows icon, plus i key
#2890 [15:46] <mib_8xdxv9> r you mean?
#2891 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> The windows key is in the lower left of your keyboard, between the ctrl and alt keys
#2892 [15:46] <Phenex> err R
#2893 [15:46] <Phenex> yes sorry
#2894 [15:46] <Tanjoodo_iPod> VoxelHead is a bot?
#2895 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2896 [15:46] <Morrolan> Yes.
#2897 [15:46] <VoxelHead> am not
#2898 [15:47] <Phenex> lol
#2899 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Shut up VoxelHead
#2900 [15:47] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#2900 [15:47] * Phenex is more interesting!
#2900 [15:47] <mib_8xdxv9> ffs
#2901 [15:47] <Morrolan> Watch out, it might make him horny....
#2902 [15:47] <Phenex> wooo!
#2903 [15:47] <Morrolan> Mib: Just paste that dxdiag, instead of swearing around. ;)
#2904 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - Still waiting on your dxdiag
#2905 [15:48] * Phenex has a question next when you are free
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#2906 [15:48] <mib_8xdxv9> grey
#2907 [15:48] <Tirannus> HELLO
#2908 [15:48] <mib_8xdxv9> one question
#2909 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2910 [15:48] <Tirannus> sorry caps
#2911 [15:48] <mib_8xdxv9> how will this help you?
#2912 [15:48] <Tirannus> Im a bit stuck
#2913 [15:48] <Tirannus> Im port forwarding
#2914 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - It would help me, help you
#2915 [15:49] <Tirannus> in CMD I typed in ipconfig
#2916 [15:49] <mib_8xdxv9> how so.
#2917 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Now, if you don't want to do that, I've got others to help
#2918 [15:49] <Tirannus> it says it is not recognized
#2919 [15:49] <mib_8xdxv9> i did do it.
#2920 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - what do you mean it's not recognized?
#2921 [15:49] <Tirannus> can anyone help me!
#2922 [15:49] <mib_8xdxv9> just tell me
#2923 [15:49] <Tirannus> it says
#2924 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> the command?
#2925 [15:49] <mib_8xdxv9> how it will help
#2926 [15:49] <Phenex> Tirannus, wait youre turn
#2927 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - What is the exact error?
#2928 [15:49] <Phenex> MIB....you need to give him the contents of the file you created!
#2929 [15:49] <Tirannus> ipconfig is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable,or batch file
#2930 [15:50] <Phenex> Otherwise he cannot help you.
#2931 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Did you mess with your environment variables?
#2932 [15:50] <DreadLindwyrm> depends on the radioisotope in question
#2933 [15:50] <mib_8xdxv9> grey
#2934 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_8xdxv9?
#2935 [15:50] <Tirannus> sort of
#2936 [15:50] <Tirannus> what do you mean mess?
#2937 [15:50] <mib_8xdxv9> pm me
#2938 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Is that a Yes or No?
#2939 [15:50] <Morrolan> Mib: That fucking file shows us informatioin, for example ones about your video card and drivers.
#2940 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Did you modify your environment varibles?
#2941 [15:51] <Tirannus> only the Path fil
#2942 [15:51] <Tirannus> *file
#2943 [15:51] <Morrolan> information*
#2944 [15:51] <relsqui> mib_8xdxv9: dude, Grey is one person volunteering time to a bunch of people all at once. hold your fucking horses :P
#2945 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Did you keep a backup?
#2946 [15:51] <Phenex> mib you need to follow the direction Voxelhead posted above
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#2948 [15:51] <mib_8xdxv9> morrolan stfu please?
#2949 [15:51] <Tirannus> nope :(
#2950 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - That's not cool.
#2951 [15:51] <mib_8xdxv9> well he swore at me
#2952 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> All I'm asking is for your dxdiag
#2953 [15:51] <mib_8xdxv9> http://pastebin.com/Hyz6DC9m
#2954 [15:51] <mib_8xdxv9> there.
#2955 [15:51] <Phenex> you arent listening.
#2956 [15:51] <Phenex> finally...
#2957 [15:51] <mib_8xdxv9> chill the fuck out?
#2958 [15:52] <mib_8xdxv9> eh?
#2959 [15:52] <Phenex> Wow..
#2960 [15:52] <Phenex> Do you always talk to people who are trying to help you like shit?
#2961 [15:52] <Tirannus> is that bad?
#2962 [15:52] <mib_8xdxv9> no.
#2963 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - You're running a RADEON 9600 SERIES, with drivers from 4/13/2008
#2964 [15:52] <relsqui> Phenex: heh there are some ambiguous referents in that sentence :P
#2965 [15:52] <Tirannus> one sec
#2966 [15:52] <Phenex> so be polite and you'll be helped
#2967 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you have updated drivers for your video card?
#2968 [15:53] <mib_8xdxv9> no idea.
#2969 [15:53] <Morrolan> Someone should build a monument dedicated to the patience of some people in this channel. :)
#2970 [15:53] * relsqui grins at Morrolan
#2970 [15:53] <Tirannus> vulpine
#2971 [15:53] <relsqui> Morrolan: we could do that! in minecraft.
#2972 [15:53] * Phenex agrees
#2972 [15:53] <Tirannus> i messed with Path in system vairiables]
#2973 [15:53] <relsqui> that would be kind of awesome actually
#2974 [15:53] <Morrolan> Relsqui: Indeed. :D
#2975 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - One moment
#2976 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - Go to this website
#2977 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#2978 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Download and update your drivers from there
#2979 [15:53] <mib_8xdxv9> okay
#2980 [15:53] * Phenex is next AFTER Tirannus
#2980 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you to restart your video drivers
#2981 [15:53] <relsqui> what would a monument to patience look like ... it would have to be something that's a pain in the ass to build. like, a grassy area at bedrock or something
#2982 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - You have windows XP, right?
#2983 [15:54] <Tirannus> no 7
#2984 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah, 7.
#2985 [15:54] <mib_8xdxv9> this site is new to me
#2986 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#2987 [15:54] <mib_8xdxv9> where do i go ?
#2988 [15:54] <Morrolan> Something which would make everyone calm down when they see it.
#2989 [15:54] <mib_8xdxv9> just download the thing?
#2990 [15:54] <Phenex> Yes
#2991 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> mib, do you see the catalyst drivers?
#2992 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Just download it
#2993 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Can I PM you?
#2994 [15:55] <Tirannus> yep
#2995 [15:55] <Morrolan> Mib: Just click on "Catalyst Software Suite"
#2996 [15:55] <relsqui> Tirannus: it sounds like you have removed from your path the location of the command you're trying to run :P
#2997 [15:55] <mib_8xdxv9> k
#2998 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes relsqui
#2999 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> I'll give him mine
#3000 [15:55] * relsqui nods
#3000 [15:55] <mib_8xdxv9> thisll help?
#3001 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't, it'll be one less thing we'll have to check
#3002 [15:55] <mib_8xdxv9> k
#3003 [15:55] <mib_8xdxv9> my video cards good?
#3004 [15:55] <Tirannus> my path was orgianlly program files/Nvidiacorporation/
#3005 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Check your PM
#3006 [15:56] <Tirannus> or something
#3007 [15:57] <mib_8xdxv9> it errored
#3008 [15:57] <mib_8xdxv9> ..
#3009 [15:58] <Tanjoodo_iPod> What's the error?
#3010 [15:58] <mib_8xdxv9> anyone there?
#3011 [15:58] <relsqui> observing that there was an error is as close as possible to giving the helpers no information without actually saying nothing
#3012 [15:58] <mib_8xdxv9> agh 1sec
#3013 [15:58] <mib_8xdxv9> hold on.
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#3015 [15:59] <mib_8xdxv9> INF error:video driver not found
#3016 [16:00] <mib_8xdxv9> ..
#3017 [16:00] <Phenex> where do i find the launcher code for terminal
#3018 [16:00] <Phenex> I can't remember it
#3019 [16:00] <JonathanS> i really need help with my mob grinder
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#3021 [16:01] <Phenex> Oh boy.. more people who need help!
#3022 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - It's on http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3023 [16:01] <Phenex> thanks!
#3024 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> It's what we get all day Phenex
#3025 [16:01] <Phenex> I'm sure you do :/
#3026 [16:01] <JonathanS> can anyone here get on my server and help me woth my mob grinder?
#3027 [16:02] <Tirannus> umm
#3028 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xdxv9 - What's going on?
#3029 [16:02] <VoxelHead> A creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating.
#3030 [16:02] <Tirannus> my default gateway is different
#3031 [16:02] * mib_yi2g4j [mib_yi2g4j@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3032 [16:02] <Tirannus> cause im running hamachi
#3033 [16:02] <mib_yi2g4j> did anyone say somethin?
#3034 [16:02] <mib_yi2g4j> comp froze
#3035 [16:02] <mib_yi2g4j> like before what i just said
#3036 [16:02] <Tirannus> ohzzz dear
#3037 [16:03] <Tirannus> can anyone provide some help
#3038 [16:03] <mib_yi2g4j> ?..
#3039 [16:03] <mib_yi2g4j> ..
#3040 [16:03] <Tirannus> right
#3041 [16:03] <Tirannus> i want to setup a bukkit server
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#3043 [16:03] <Tirannus> but im running hamachi on a diff server
#3044 [16:03] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3045 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Yes?
#3046 [16:03] <Tirannus> so when i get my default gateway its a hamachi one!
#3047 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - Try ipconfig /all
#3048 [16:03] <mib_yi2g4j> did you find the problem?
#3049 [16:04] <Tirannus> k
#3050 [16:04] <Phenex> When someone has a chance, could they please look at this error and suggest what I can do
#3051 [16:04] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/8nvirXsB
#3052 [16:05] <Tirannus> thanks
#3053 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - did you use Minecraft.jar or minecraft.jar
#3054 [16:05] <mib_yi2g4j> :l
#3055 [16:05] <Phenex> I copied the command from the link you gave me
#3056 [16:05] <Phenex> I'll double check the file names and command line
#3057 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> use minecraft.jar
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#3059 [16:06] <Phenex> Okay.
#3060 [16:06] <Tirannus> Error after error
#3061 [16:06] <Tirannus> Right
#3062 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - What's going on?
#3063 [16:06] <Tirannus> im now at the bit where i need to port forward
#3064 [16:06] <Tirannus> and at the router login
#3065 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#3066 [16:06] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
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#3068 [16:07] <Tirannus> i type in user: admin and pass: admin
#3069 [16:07] <Tirannus> but it just backs me out
#3070 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Can you give me the pastebin URL again?
#3071 [16:07] <Tirannus> thats the default
#3072 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - do you know if it was changed from default?
#3073 [16:07] <mib_yi2g4j> maybe
#3074 [16:07] <mib_yi2g4j> 1sec
#3075 [16:07] <Tirannus> no i do not
#3076 [16:07] <Tirannus> i dont think so
#3077 [16:08] <Reaper7> I just bought minecraft and i just get a black screen..I can play the free one ok but not the beta any help???
#3078 [16:08] <mib_yi2g4j> http://pastebin.com/Hyz6DC9m
#3079 [16:08] <mib_yi2g4j> .
#3080 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Reaper7 - First things to check, java version and graphics drivers
#3081 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - That's not it
#3082 [16:08] <mib_yi2g4j> ..
#3083 [16:09] <mib_yi2g4j> yea it is.
#3084 [16:09] <Phenex> I believe this may be a doozy of an error GreyVulpine so no need to answer mine immediately
#3085 [16:09] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/HU42pxAX
#3086 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem mib_yi2g4j?
#3087 [16:09] <mib_yi2g4j> the driver thing
#3088 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Still the same thing, make sure you're running the latest graphics drivers.
#3089 [16:09] <Reaper7> i have java 6 update 24
#3090 [16:10] <mib_yi2g4j> it wont update the driver
#3091 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Why won't it let you? What is it saying?
#3092 [16:11] * Chr|s [Chr|s@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3093 [16:11] <mib_yi2g4j> error INF: driver not found
#3094 [16:11] <mib_yi2g4j> something like that
#3095 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Something like that?
#3096 [16:11] <mib_yi2g4j> yea
#3097 [16:11] <mib_yi2g4j> exactly like that
#3098 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#3099 [16:12] <freakyy[t]> hi all. is there a way to have difficulty peaceful set on my private minecraft server?
#3100 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes freakyy[t] - Turn off monsters
#3101 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Peaceful will be set automatically
#3102 [16:13] <freakyy[t]> GreyVulpine well i want monsters ... i only want this auto heal enabled
#3103 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> freakyy[t] - Can't do that with the vanilla server
#3104 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Would need to mod it
#3105 [16:14] <freakyy[t]> what mod?
#3106 [16:14] <Phenex> Where would I find my graphics card information on Ubuntu?
#3107 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> freakyy[t] - I'm sorry, I couldn't tell you. I don't know
#3108 [16:14] <freakyy[t]> GreyVulpine hm ok thank you
#3109 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> freakyy[t] - Best bet, is to ask in #bukkit
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#3111 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> They're the most popular SMP mod API right now
#3112 [16:15] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3113 [16:15] <Tirannus> man im stuck
#3114 [16:15] <Tirannus> my user and pass arent admin and admin
#3115 [16:16] <mib_yi2g4j> greyvulpine
#3116 [16:16] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine
#3117 [16:16] <fogWraith> Help us all
#3118 [16:16] <Morrolan> Have to go, wish you luck GreyVulpine
#3119 [16:16] <mib_yi2g4j> the information for the pasebin is at the way bottom for some reason
#3120 [16:16] <mib_yi2g4j> paste*
#3121 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> fogWraith - How do you update video drivers in ubuntu?
#3122 [16:17] <mib_yi2g4j> aghh
#3123 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Tirannus - You can try looking into hard resetting it back to factory default. Check your router's manual
#3124 [16:17] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine: depends on if you want binary, source or "official drivers" installation
#3125 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> fogWraith - Intel integrated graphics
#3126 [16:18] <fogWraith> Intel? Buy a better gfx adapter
#3127 [16:18] <Phenex> hahaha
#3128 [16:18] <fogWraith> Intel is as good as it gets with default drivers
#3129 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> I see.
#3130 [16:18] <fogWraith> I'm sorry :(
#3131 [16:18] <Phenex> I can run the gam,e in xpt though?
#3132 [16:18] <Phenex> XP*
#3133 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Phenex here's running Ubuntu, but getting "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time."
#3134 [16:19] <fogWraith> He should check whether or not Intel has drivers for linux
#3135 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Which is either minecraft being launched again (it's not), or graphics drivers not updated
#3136 [16:19] <fogWraith> Otherwise he's screwed
#3137 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#3138 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Still there?
#3139 [16:20] <Phenex> I dont even know the full number for my car though
#3140 [16:20] <mib_yi2g4j> i am
#3141 [16:20] <Phenex> card*
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#3143 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - What version of windows are you on?
#3144 [16:20] <Phenex> I need that before I can search for drivers for Linux
#3145 [16:20] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
#3146 [16:20] <mib_yi2g4j> windows 7 xp?
#3147 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - 7.. or xp?
#3148 [16:20] <fogWraith> Ubuntu says it has full support for Minecraft
#3149 [16:20] <mib_yi2g4j> xp..
#3150 [16:20] <fogWraith> But that only applies when installing the right drivers
#3151 [16:20] <mib_yi2g4j> lol.
#3152 [16:20] <fogWraith> So .... ha-ha
#3153 [16:21] <mib_yi2g4j> .
#3154 [16:21] <Phenex> Where would I find the name of my video card on Ubuntu?
#3155 [16:21] <fogWraith> Laptop?
#3156 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Can you head to your control panel, go to your system properties, go to device manager. Look for the display adapter.
#3157 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it, go to properties, update the drivers.
#3158 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> See if you can't point it to the drivers you got from AMD/ATI's file
#3159 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> site
#3160 [16:22] <fogWraith> Phenex: laptop?
#3161 [16:22] <Phenex> fogWraith: No.
#3162 [16:22] <mib_yi2g4j> system properties?
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#3164 [16:22] <fogWraith> Integrated then I suppose, Phenex ?
#3165 [16:22] <struppthat> Hello
#3166 [16:22] <Phenex> Indeed
#3167 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - The "System" icon in your control panel
#3168 [16:22] <struppthat> got a big ass problem with minecraft :/
#3169 [16:22] <fogWraith> Store bought and ready, Phenex ?
#3170 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Big ass-problem.
#3171 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Just tell us your problem
#3172 [16:22] <struppthat> i downloaded minecraft
#3173 [16:22] <struppthat> double clikced it
#3174 [16:22] <Phenex> I was given it from my brother, but yes he bough it in sytore
#3175 [16:22] <struppthat> doesnt do anything
#3176 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Did you pay for minecraft, first off?
#3177 [16:23] <struppthat> somebody linked me an older build of the exe.
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#3179 [16:23] <fogWraith> Then it's a Dell or a HP, Phenex ? :P
#3180 [16:23] <struppthat> that does run
#3181 [16:23] <struppthat> but crashes a lot
#3182 [16:23] <Phenex> Yes
#3183 [16:23] <Phenex> lol
#3184 [16:23] <fogWraith> Check for that sexy sticker
#3185 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Older build?
#3186 [16:23] <Phenex> I updated the drivers on XP revent
#3187 [16:23] <struppthat> yes i did pay :)
#3188 [16:23] <fogWraith> It says which HP / Dell machine you have
#3189 [16:23] <Phenex> I get the HP blue screen when it comes on
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#3191 [16:23] <fogWraith> Aah
#3192 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Okay, how much RAM do you have on the system?
#3193 [16:23] <grim__> test
#3194 [16:23] <struppthat> i was on a quake net irc channel
#3195 [16:23] <fogWraith> Check that sticker, check HP website, it has a compendium of data on their hardware
#3196 [16:24] <struppthat> and a randomer linked me this exe of minecraft
#3197 [16:24] <struppthat> and THAT does run
#3198 [16:24] <struppthat> 4
#3199 [16:24] <fogWraith> Which means, you can get the info for all components in your computer
#3200 [16:24] <struppthat> gig that is
#3201 [16:24] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3202 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3203 [16:24] <mib_yi2g4j> after i go to system
#3204 [16:24] <mib_yi2g4j> what did you need?
#3205 [16:24] <Phenex> Where is said sticker?
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#3207 [16:24] <fogWraith> You have an actual sticker on your very computer, Phenex
#3208 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Device manager -> display adapter
#3209 [16:24] <fogWraith> Behind it with all the cables, under or on top
#3210 [16:25] <struppthat> 4 gig of ram i got in my machine
#3211 [16:25] <Phenex> I understood that, just thought it would be in a specific spot
#3212 [16:25] <mib_yi2g4j> k
#3213 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Then right click, update drivers, make sure to point it to the file you got from ATI's site
#3214 [16:25] <mib_yi2g4j> what of them?
#3215 [16:25] <fogWraith> Depends, I have one with the sticker on top
#3216 [16:25] <grim__> Hey quick question, How can I register my name in the #minecraft channle? I've tried the "/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER" but i get nothing back. Any ideas?
#3217 [16:25] <fogWraith> Then there are those with the sticker behind and under the computer
#3218 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> grim__ - /msg nickserv register email password
#3219 [16:25] <Assumptio> * /ns register (name) (email) (pass)
#3220 [16:25] <fogWraith> But it displays the serial and everything, even the XP license code
#3221 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Then follow the email dirtions
#3222 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> directions
#3223 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3224 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> there are 2 drivers..
#3225 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> wait
#3226 [16:26] <struppthat> i think im getting ignored :D
#3227 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> drivers
#3228 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> or
#3229 [16:26] <mib_yi2g4j> adapters?
#3230 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - Can you point it to the file you get from the site?
#3231 [16:26] <Assumptio> i have a question whenever someone has time c;.
#3232 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Sorry, we're a little swamped
#3233 [16:26] <struppthat> ;)
#3234 [16:26] <fogWraith> Shoot, Assumptio
#3235 [16:26] <struppthat> 4 gig of ram that was
#3236 [16:26] <Tirannus> FACTORY DEFEULT
#3237 [16:26] <Satzu> My minecraft crashes all the time.. Do you guys have any advice?
#3238 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - Okay, you don't get ANYTHING from double clicking on the e.exe?
#3239 [16:27] <fogWraith> Satzu: more info please
#3240 [16:27] <Assumptio> I was given minecraft as an xmas gift, but haven't been able to play it since I received it.
#3241 [16:27] <struppthat> nope
#3242 [16:27] <mib_yi2g4j> .
#3243 [16:27] <Tirannus> that means everythings lost
#3244 [16:27] <Tirannus> ill check the manuel
#3245 [16:27] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3246 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> struppthat - How much RAM do you have free, I assume more than a gig?
#3247 [16:27] <mib_yi2g4j> driverz or adapters?
#3248 [16:27] <Assumptio> the .exe tells me minecraft.net is not avail. when i try to log in
#3249 [16:27] <VoxelHead> i can't tell you that
#3250 [16:27] <fogWraith> Assumptio: how so? did you get a code for it, and did you apply it to your account?
#3251 [16:27] <Phenex> I need the product key?
#3252 [16:27] <Assumptio> Code
#3253 [16:27] <VoxelHead> I already have one of those.
#3254 [16:27] <Assumptio> and yes i did
#3255 [16:27] <struppthat> atm its 2 gig
#3256 [16:27] <struppthat> 1.98
#3257 [16:27] <fogWraith> Phenex: just the computer make and info, for instance HP SMRT COMPOOTHAH XP DLX LOL
#3258 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> Assumptio: what is the _exact_ error you are in receipt of?
#3259 [16:27] <Assumptio> "You have already have the full version of the game! YAY!"
#3260 [16:28] <mib_yi2g4j> greyvulpine
#3261 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3262 [16:28] <Assumptio> I don't get an error, I can't even log in
#3263 [16:28] <mib_yi2g4j> drivers or adapters?
#3264 [16:28] <Assumptio> I put my correct pass/user in
#3265 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Assumptio: what happens when you try?
#3266 [16:28] <VoxelHead> woah cool, let me try that!
#3267 [16:28] <fogWraith> Assumptio: have you run a previously cracked version? I won't judge you
#3268 [16:28] <Assumptio> and it tells me "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#3269 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#3270 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"?
#3271 [16:28] <Assumptio> nope o_o.
#3272 [16:28] <VoxelHead> :(
#3273 [16:28] <Assumptio> I've tried to download straight from the site
#3274 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Assumptio - make sure your date/time is correct
#3275 [16:28] <Satzu> it just says that minecraft does not respond..
#3276 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? ntp
#3277 [16:28] <VoxelHead> ntp: If your client cannot log you into Minecraft.net, and you are able to get to the site, check your computer's time and date. If it's too far off, you can't connect to secure sites, of which Minecraft's authentication server is one.
#3278 [16:28] <VoxelHead> ntp: To prevent this from happening repeatedly, look into setting up your computer to use NTP to keep its clock accurate.
#3279 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - on the display adapter in your device manger
#3280 [16:28] <fogWraith> Assumptio: hit WIN+R on your keyboard
#3281 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Update your drivers
#3282 [16:29] <fogWraith> Enter %appdata%
#3283 [16:29] <fogWraith> Remove .minecraft
#3284 [16:29] <mib_yi2g4j> both of em?
#3285 [16:29] <fogWraith> Get the latest launcher from minecraft.net
#3286 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Both?
#3287 [16:29] <fogWraith> Try again
#3288 [16:29] <Assumptio> did that too.
#3289 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - What do you have?
#3290 [16:29] <Satzu> ok
#3291 [16:29] <fogWraith> D:
#3292 [16:29] <Assumptio> reset my comp and everything also :O.
#3293 [16:29] <mib_yi2g4j> i have 2?
#3294 [16:29] <mib_yi2g4j> idk
#3295 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> What 2?
#3296 [16:29] <mib_yi2g4j> idk
#3297 [16:29] <mib_yi2g4j> its weird
#3298 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me screenshot, or write down what 2 you have?
#3299 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> a screenshot*
#3300 [16:30] <mib_yi2g4j> its
#3301 [16:30] <fogWraith> Assumptio: When you hit the launcher and enter login info, can't connect to minecraft.net
#3302 [16:30] <fogWraith> Instant or takes a while
#3303 [16:30] <mib_yi2g4j> radeon 9600 series
#3304 [16:30] <mib_yi2g4j> and
#3305 [16:30] <Assumptio> instant
#3306 [16:30] <mib_yi2g4j> radeon pro sec (microsoft corporation)
#3307 [16:30] <fogWraith> Firewall software, Assumptio ?
#3308 [16:30] <Assumptio> avast
#3309 [16:31] <fogWraith> Should be fine then :|
#3310 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Assumptio - Did you double check your system time and date?
#3311 [16:31] <Assumptio> yeah, it updates as per the internet time
#3312 [16:31] <RF> WIN+R > cmd > nslookup www.minecraft.net
#3313 [16:31] <RF> What does it return ?
#3314 [16:31] <RF> (I assume your host file has not been edited)
#3315 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_yi2g4j - then the 9600 series
#3316 [16:32] <struppthat> *whistleling*
#3317 [16:32] <Assumptio> rf @ myself? C:
#3318 [16:32] <RF> yes
#3319 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Update the drivers for that, then point it to the file you got it from ati's site
#3320 [16:32] <RF> What does it return for the "Address" field ?
#3321 [16:32] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3322 [16:32] <mib_yi2g4j> pm me
#3323 [16:32] <Assumptio> non-authoritative answer: Name: mc-836595152.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com
#3324 [16:32] <fogWraith> Assumptio: Should return 50.16.203.217
#3325 [16:32] <Phenex> How would I find out what version of driver I have?
#3326 [16:33] <Assumptio> address: 75.101.134.173
#3327 [16:33] <Assumptio> aliases: www.minecraft.net
#3328 [16:33] <Phenex> I have found a few drivers, but not sure of my version
#3329 [16:33] <Phenex> I can use terminal if its easier
#3330 [16:33] <fogWraith> You probably run the ubuntu defaults, Phenex, I for instance was running noveau
#3331 [16:33] <RF> Hmm, that's correct
#3332 [16:34] <fogWraith> Then installed nvidia drivers properly
#3333 [16:34] <fogWraith> But you have intel :P
#3334 [16:34] <Phenex> so any driver at this point would be an update?
#3335 [16:34] <Phenex> lol
#3336 [16:34] <fogWraith> Yes
#3337 [16:34] <Phenex> excellent
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#3339 [16:35] <Phenex> What is the process for installing the driver?
#3340 [16:35] <fogWraith> Ohlawds
#3341 [16:35] <Phenex> I typed my board name into google and found drivers for linux
#3342 [16:35] <fogWraith> They should be given at HP site, or Intel
#3343 [16:36] <Buhb> hmm it says theres a new version on the changelog that removes the april fools thing but my v is still 1.4
#3344 [16:36] <Buhb> is it gonna have an update up soon?
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#3346 [16:38] <mitpatterson_> anyone know how to have my ubuntu server update iit time
#3347 [16:39] <mitpatterson_> also is Thoatt|Sleep happen to not being sleeping?
#3348 [16:40] <Phenex> I put my board type into Intels site and can't find any drivers for linux
#3349 [16:40] <fogWraith> What info exactly?
#3350 [16:40] <Phenex> d845gvsr video drivers for linux
#3351 [16:41] <fogWraith> Intel® Desktop Board D845GVSR ?
#3352 [16:42] <Phenex> Are you asking me to search for that?
#3353 [16:42] <fogWraith> Asking if its your integrated chip?
#3354 [16:42] <Phenex> sticker I found says Horiozon 2400 D845GVSR
#3355 [16:43] <Phenex> windows xp home
#3356 [16:45] <Assumptio> alas, still nothing. I've concluded this game spites me c:>
#3357 [16:45] <fogWraith> Phenex: I'm stumped :|
#3358 [16:45] <Phenex> I thought I Found one
#3359 [16:45] <Phenex> but it wasnt at intel
#3360 [16:45] <mitpatterson_> anyone know the command line for ubunto server to have it sync the time
#3361 [16:45] <Assumptio> i shall return, gonna test something.
#3362 [16:45] <Phenex> thats why I asked how to install
#3363 [16:46] <Phenex> http://intel.driversdown.com/Intel-drivers/Intel-Board-D845GVSR-video-driver_73977.shtml
#3364 [16:46] <fogWraith> mitpatterson_: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
#3365 [16:46] <Phenex> will that work?
#3366 [16:46] <mitpatterson_> gracis fogWraith
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#3368 [16:47] <fogWraith> Phenex: I don't trust those sites
#3369 [16:47] <Phenex> hmph
#3370 [16:47] <Satzu> I downloaded the minecraft launcer again and it ran something like 5 minutes and then crashed: Java Platform does not respond
#3371 [16:47] <fogWraith> Satzu: java version under what OS?
#3372 [16:47] <Phenex> Am I s.o.ol?
#3373 [16:47] <Phenex> s.o.l?
#3374 [16:48] <Satzu> latest verion win 7
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#3376 [16:48] <saWolfii> where can i report a bug ?
#3377 [16:48] <fogWraith> "latest version" doesn't help
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#3379 [16:49] <Satzu> version 6 update 24
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#3381 [16:49] <Phenex> Ubuntu isnt on intels list of OS?
#3382 [16:49] <saWolfii> oh found one thanks
#3383 [16:49] <Phenex> I see red hat linux and such
#3384 [16:49] <Tirannus> Hello
#3385 [16:50] <Tirannus> im back
#3386 [16:50] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#3387 [16:50] <fogWraith> Satzu: 64 or 32bit?
#3388 [16:50] <mitpatterson_> shut up vox
#3389 [16:50] <Tirannus> im still having problems with logging into my ip
#3390 [16:50] <Satzu> 64
#3391 [16:50] <Tirannus> user and pass are diff
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#3393 [16:50] <fogWraith> Mmm, Satzu, have you tried cleaning the old .minecraft data=
#3394 [16:50] <fogWraith> ?*
#3395 [16:50] <Tirannus> OH YES
#3396 [16:51] <Tirannus> GOOD GOOD
#3397 [16:51] <Satzu> yes
#3398 [16:51] <Tirannus> thank you random server dude
#3399 [16:51] <Tirannus> *forum
#3400 [16:51] <fogWraith> Satzu: 32 or 64bit java? not that it should really matter
#3401 [16:51] <Tirannus> got the user and pass
#3402 [16:51] <Phenex> Is there nothing I can do now Wraith? or should I try that driver
#3403 [16:51] <Satzu> 64
#3404 [16:51] <Satzu> should i try to reinstall the latest java?
#3405 [16:51] <fogWraith> Satzu: also install the 32bit one, just for the lols of trying
#3406 [16:51] <fogWraith> It just might work!
#3407 [16:52] <Satzu> i'll try
#3408 [16:52] <Phenex> ??
#3409 [16:52] <fogWraith> Phenex: try it
#3410 [16:52] <Phenex> How would I install it though
#3411 [16:52] <fogWraith> Worst case scenario is that your X desktop fails and you end up in a terminal
#3412 [16:52] <Tirannus> Anyone know how to port foward on sky?
#3413 [16:52] <fogWraith> There should be instructions for your platform
#3414 [16:52] <fogWraith> I don't know the ones for intel though
#3415 [16:53] <Assumptio> alas, updated everything, still can't connect
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#3417 [16:53] <mib_yi2g4j> hey welcome to the party
#3418 [16:53] <mib_yi2g4j> cant connect either
#3419 [16:54] <Autch> could someone help me get minecraft server going?
#3420 [16:54] <mib_yi2g4j> doubt it
#3421 [16:54] <mib_yi2g4j> chat is mostly faced with false intellect and false hope.
#3422 [16:54] <fogWraith> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1301777678039
#3423 [16:55] <fogWraith> Run it, prosper
#3424 [16:55] <mib_yi2g4j> not that im saying im some computer enginerr
#3425 [16:55] <mib_yi2g4j> or a better speller.
#3426 [16:55] <fogWraith> Then, you may face dangers such as port forwarding
#3427 [16:55] <fogWraith> Griefers
#3428 [16:55] <fogWraith> Failure
#3429 [16:55] <fogWraith> Who knows
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#3431 [16:56] <Phenex> There are no instructions...just a download file
#3432 [16:56] <mib_yi2g4j> gotta figure it out
#3433 [16:56] <Autch> yes but how do i make it so a friend can connect?
#3434 [16:56] <mib_yi2g4j> youself
#3435 [16:56] <mib_yi2g4j> you cant
#3436 [16:56] <mib_yi2g4j> its impossible
#3437 [16:56] <Autch> sigh
#3438 [16:56] <fogWraith> Autch:
#3439 [16:57] <fogWraith> You have to know how to configure your router
#3440 [16:57] <fogWraith> For port forwarding, to the server computer
#3441 [16:57] <Autch> oh
#3442 [16:57] <Phenex> so Wraith, any idea what to do with this file I downloaded? I did a searrch with ubuntu driver search and it found nothing
#3443 [16:57] <fogWraith> Once that ordeal is over, it should be up and running
#3444 [16:57] <fogWraith> No idea at all Phenex, I just dabble with ATI and NVIDIA installations
#3445 [16:58] <fogWraith> The process is throuch sources rather than binaries
#3446 [16:58] <Phenex> damn..
#3447 [16:58] <Phenex> No idea what that means but thanks anyways
#3448 [16:58] <mib_yi2g4j> yay
#3449 [16:58] <mib_yi2g4j> PANDAS
#3450 [16:58] <fogWraith> Source means, using a program to compile a whole lot of instructions to runnable files or something
#3451 [16:58] * fogWraith yay's
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#3452 [17:01] <Phenex> hmph I have no idea how to install the driver.
#3453 [17:02] <fogWraith> I would suggest, Phenex, that you visit a channel for ubuntu support
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#3455 [17:02] <fogWraith> Sorry I can't help further :(
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#3457 [17:02] <Phenex> Can you suggest a channel?
#3458 [17:02] <fogWraith> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat
#3459 [17:03] <Phenex> Is it IRC like this?
#3460 [17:03] <fogWraith> Yep
#3461 [17:03] <Phenex> whats the channel name so I dont need to close this
#3462 [17:03] <fogWraith> #ubuntu
#3463 [17:03] <fogWraith> But its on a different network
#3464 [17:03] <fogWraith> We're on esper.net
#3465 [17:03] <fogWraith> They are on freenode.net
#3466 [17:03] <Phenex> oh okay
#3467 [17:04] <Assumptio> Thanks to the peeps whow ere trying to help me, didn't fix my issue yet, but gonna stick around to see if anyone else gets it c:.
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#3469 [17:05] <Phenex> do they have a web broswer version?
#3470 [17:05] <Assumptio> of minecraft?
#3471 [17:06] <Assumptio> or of that chat o -o
#3472 [17:06] <Phenex> fogWraith?
#3473 [17:06] <fogWraith> They do
#3474 [17:06] <fogWraith> www.minecraft.net
#3475 [17:06] <fogWraith> Play or download
#3476 [17:06] <Phenex> I meant Ubuntu IRC
#3477 [17:06] <Phenex> the channel
#3478 [17:06] <fogWraith> Ah?
#3479 [17:06] <fogWraith> No idea if freenode has a webbased IRC
#3480 [17:06] <Assumptio> fog, do you know why the inbrowser version of minecraft would stop working like.. 90% updated and not work?
#3481 [17:07] <fogWraith> Assumptio: it should work just the same as the downloaded one
#3482 [17:07] <fogWraith> The only difference being run from a browser instead from a file on the computer
#3483 [17:08] <Assumptio> hm. maybe I should fix this issue where the game freezes before it finishes downloading for me then, when I'm in browser
#3484 [17:08] <fogWraith> Saves to the same location so
#3485 [17:08] <fogWraith> At least should
#3486 [17:09] <Phenex> I found instruction for enabling my card via terminal but I get an error when I start it
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#3488 [17:14] <VoxelHead> mmm JonathanS
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#3491 [17:16] <Pashia> hi hi
#3492 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3493 [17:17] <Pashia> im back ^^
#3494 [17:17] <Pashia> small problem again
#3495 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3496 [17:17] <Pashia> thx to the new (and awsome) update my local server does not work anymore
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#3498 [17:18] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: Do YOU know how to install Intel drivers on Ubuntu? lol
#3499 [17:18] <Rigi> I need server help :T
#3500 [17:18] <Phenex> I got a driver just cant figure out how to install it
#3501 [17:19] <Pashia> lol all need server help thx to the update?
#3502 [17:19] <Rigi> Well, not like that.
#3503 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, sorry Phenex
#3504 [17:19] <Phenex> Oh..
#3505 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Rigi - What server help?
#3506 [17:19] <Rigi> I set up a server (I'm on a mac) and whether I use my IP (with and without port) or use 'localhost' I still can't connect.
#3507 [17:19] <Phenex> I guess I am screwed then?
#3508 [17:19] <Rigi> Another person is able to connect.
#3509 [17:19] <Phenex> No one knows how to install this driver?
#3510 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Rigi - Did you modify server.properties?
#3511 [17:20] <Rigi> .in what way?
#3512 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Did you modify the server-ip line?
#3513 [17:20] <Rigi> ..No <_<
#3514 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that's left blank?
#3515 [17:20] <Rigi> Yes.
#3516 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that's good then, firewall?
#3517 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Any security software?
#3518 [17:21] <Rigi> ....no idea.
#3519 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> That's not good, can you find out?
#3520 [17:21] <Rigi> I mean, I'm on a mac anyway, so most viruses are just binary files, so I probably have none.
#3521 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> I have seen security software for macs.
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#3523 [17:21] <Rigi> I'm not very good with computers :T
#3524 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm not that good with macs. Um.
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#3526 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Rigi - You said another person was able to connect? From the outside?
#3527 [17:23] <Rigi> Yes.
#3528 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> And this server is running on the same computer you're on right now?
#3529 [17:25] <Rigi> Yes.
#3530 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> And what do you get, when you try to connect via 'localhost' ?
#3531 [17:26] <Rigi> Same bad login.
#3532 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Bad login?
#3533 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> What username are you connect with?
#3534 [17:26] <Rigi> Failed to login: Bad login
#3535 [17:26] <Rigi> <--
#3536 [17:27] <Rigi> Wait, it just worked.
#3537 [17:27] <Rigi> Sweet.
#3538 [17:27] <VoxelHead> Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
#3539 [17:27] <Rigi> Thanks for the help anyway :D
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#3541 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#3542 [17:28] * GreyVulpine silently flicks a switch in the backroom.
#3542 [17:28] <Phenex> I have a few unmet dependancies
#3543 [17:28] <Phenex> how do I sole this?
#3544 [17:28] <Phenex> solve*
#3545 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Got a pastebin?
#3546 [17:29] <Phenex> yes
#3547 [17:29] <Phenex> one second
#3548 [17:29] <Phenex> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
#3549 [17:29] <Phenex> thats what my terminal says
#3550 [17:30] <Phenex> error:brokencount >0
#3551 [17:30] <Phenex> says the red circle with the white line on my screen
#3552 [17:31] <Phenex> sunjava 6 is my broken dependancie
#3553 [17:31] <Phenex> according to the manager
#3554 [17:32] <Phenex> How do I make it not-broken
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#3557 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you please pastebin the entire error?
#3558 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Starting with the command you tried?
#3559 [17:33] <Phenex> Its very large what comes before the error but okay
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#3561 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Just use pastebin.com
#3562 [17:34] <relsqui> the beds set spawn point when you click "leave bed," right? what about if you sleep through the night?
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#3564 [17:36] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/CbUXHACx
#3565 [17:37] <Phenex> was following instructions for drivers install
#3566 [17:37] <Phenex> the top right corner is a red circle wit ha line through it
#3567 [17:37] <Phenex> took me to Synaptic Package Manager
#3568 [17:37] <Phenex> found the package that is messed up
#3569 [17:37] <Phenex> How do I fix said package
#3570 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> "You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these." ?
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#3572 [17:39] <Phenex> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
#3573 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#3574 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> sudo apt-get -f install
#3575 [17:39] <Phenex> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
#3576 [17:41] <Phenex> ahh
#3577 [17:41] <Phenex> I am a fool
#3578 [17:41] <Phenex> I was typing the command into the downloads folder....
#3579 [17:42] <Phenex> Configuring sun-java6-bin
#3580 [17:42] <Phenex> I am on this page
#3581 [17:42] <Phenex> and it wont let me select Ok
#3582 [17:42] <Phenex> to continue
#3583 [17:43] <Phenex> any thoughts? :S
#3584 [17:44] <Phenex> nevermind
#3585 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> What.. page?
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#3587 [17:44] <deadhor5> hi
#3588 [17:44] <grim__> is the channle to minecraft '#minecraft" without a capital M? is it case sensitive?
#3589 [17:44] <Phenex> I got it. Wasnt thinking to use the arrow keys
#3590 [17:44] <Assumptio> shouldn't be sensitive
#3591 [17:44] <deadhor5> can anyone explain how to use the multiplayer?
#3592 [17:44] <grim__> k
#3593 [17:45] <grim__> cause im on linux in my terminal just use to everything being case sense
#3594 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> deadhor5 - Just go to the multiplayer button, and use an IP you get from one of these sites
#3595 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3596 [17:45] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3597 [17:45] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3598 [17:45] <Phenex> woooooo bots!
#3599 [17:45] <VoxelHead> so... about my sandwich...
#3600 [17:45] <Phenex> What about it
#3601 [17:45] <Phenex> Make it yourself
#3602 [17:46] <grim__> Anyone know any RP servers?
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#3604 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Don't think so grim__
#3605 [17:47] <grim__> =(
#3606 [17:47] <grim__> Hmmm.. I might start a RP server then
#3607 [17:52] <grim__> anyone on linux and useing irssi?
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#3609 [17:54] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: I used step one from this site for instaling my driver. http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/articles/how-to-enable-intel-graphics-driver-for-ubuntu-10-10.html
#3610 [17:54] <Phenex> and my terminal is getting a ton of updates from archives ubuntu or something?
#3611 [17:54] <Phenex> is this correct?
#3612 [17:54] <Phenex> its downloading/installing a bunch of stuff
#3613 [17:55] <Phenex> Get:241 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main openoffice.org-style-human all 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1.1 [3,272kB]
#3614 [17:55] <Phenex> for example
#3615 [17:59] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper or DopeGhoti or knyrf
#3615 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> They'll be able to help you better
#3616 [17:59] <Phenex> Its nearly finished, we will see what happens
#3617 [18:00] <Phenex> "generating locales" currently
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#3619 [18:00] <AG_Scott> I never had to install any drivers for intel graphics
#3620 [18:00] <AG_Scott> I don't think they're even proprietary.
#3621 [18:01] <Kealper> rawr
#3622 [18:02] <Kealper> uhh....yeah...i'm not an expert in ubuntu :/
#3623 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then if it isn't a problem with the video drivers for ubuntu..
#3624 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> What could cause "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time."
#3625 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> It's not another instance of minecraft being launched
#3626 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> or some other LWJGL app
#3627 [18:03] <Phenex> hmmm
#3628 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> `ps ax | grep java`
#3629 [18:04] <Phenex> when I used to manager to fix the broken dependancy it said it was for java6
#3630 [18:04] <Phenex> now that im not having that error, do you think that solved my earlier issue?
#3631 [18:04] <Phenex> I am going to try and run it now
#3632 [18:04] <Phenex> hang on
#3633 [18:04] <Phenex> hmph nevermind
#3634 [18:05] <Phenex> I cant right now, the terminal is unpacking and installing all this stuff
#3635 [18:06] <Phenex> and doesnt look like it'll be stopping anytime soon
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#3637 [18:08] <Phenex> can someone tell me what those commands I typed did
#3638 [18:08] <Phenex> http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/articles/how-to-enable-intel-graphics-driver-for-ubuntu-10-10.html
#3639 [18:08] <Phenex> two commands in step 1
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#3641 [18:10] <Phenex> Anyone? lol
#3642 [18:12] * VoxelHead is away: fud
#3642 [18:12] <Dark_Fox_> Phenex: Looks like it added a new location for you to download packages, updated your computer's local list of packages, then upgraded all of your packages.
#3643 [18:12] * Phenex is frustrated
#3643 [18:13] <Phenex> Ahh okay. Thanks
#3644 [18:14] <Phenex> I dont know if that will help my situation
#3645 [18:15] <Dark_Fox_> Dunno, not sure what your situation is
#3646 [18:16] <Phenex> GreyVulpine can explain it better than I can
#3647 [18:16] <Phenex> long story short I downladed an intel graphics driver and have no idea how to install it on Ubuntu 10.10
#3648 [18:16] <Dark_Fox_> Well, if your issue is straight up linux, you may be better suited to a channel that handles linux specifically.
#3649 [18:17] <Phenex> came here cuz I get a crash report when I run minecraft
#3650 [18:17] <Phenex> one sec
#3651 [18:17] <Phenex> <GreyVulpine>: What could cause "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time." <GreyVulpine>: It's not another instance of minecraft being launched
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#3653 [18:18] <Phenex> thats the issue
#3654 [18:18] <killking72> how do i copy paste into the minecraft jar with 7zip?
#3655 [18:19] <Dark_Fox_> killking72: Right click, 7zip, open archive
#3656 [18:19] <killking72> then what?
#3657 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Then move whatever you need into it
#3658 [18:19] <Dark_Fox_> ...Then do whatever it is you were wanting to do?
#3659 [18:20] <killking72> doesnt work
#3660 [18:20] <killking72> i drag and drop and it wont drop into the jar
#3661 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - What version of java did you install? (java -version)
#3662 [18:20] <Dark_Fox_> killking72: Have you tried clicking the "Add" button?
#3663 [18:20] <killking72> says "this operation is not supported
#3664 [18:21] <mitpatterson_> GreyVulpine, did you crash/boot out phenex again?
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#3666 [18:21] <mib_yi2g4j> !client
#3667 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3668 [18:21] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3669 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> yes?
#3670 [18:21] <mib_yi2g4j> i fixed the problem.
#3671 [18:21] <mib_yi2g4j> aha
#3672 [18:22] <Dark_Fox_> Then that means 7zip doesn't support adding files to a .jar, I suppose.
#3673 [18:22] <killking72> so what should i get instead?
#3674 [18:22] <killking72> and it says use winrar or 7zip
#3675 [18:22] <mib_yi2g4j> grey
#3676 [18:23] <Dark_Fox_> Then use winrar
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#3678 [18:24] <spaski> Hi anyone here?
#3679 [18:24] <mitpatterson_> only 169 of us
#3680 [18:24] <spaski> :P
#3681 [18:24] <spaski> i need some help confirming that i actually payed for the game earlier tonight i cant find anything about it on "my profile"
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#3683 [18:25] <mitpatterson_> umm, grey whats the command to verify if someone has a vald key
#3684 [18:25] <mitpatterson_> GreyVulpine, what is the command for one of the bots for "has paid"?
#3685 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> !paid notch
#3686 [18:26] <mitpatterson_> spaski, is that your name on minecraft?
#3687 [18:26] <Phenex> Vulpine! i found out why ps -a wasnt working
#3688 [18:26] <spaski> yes
#3689 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Okay...?
#3690 [18:26] <mitpatterson_> !paid spaski
#3691 [18:26] <mitpatterson_> says you ahve
#3692 [18:26] <mitpatterson_> have*
#3693 [18:26] <Phenex> its supposed to be a capital A...
#3694 [18:26] <spaski> haha thats great maan thanks
#3695 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> No it isn't..
#3696 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> I'm not a *nix guru, but I'm also not a noob. A and a are different.
#3697 [18:27] <Phenex> ********* simple selection ********* ********* selection by list ********* -A all processes
#3698 [18:27] <Dark_Fox_> I always just do "ps aux"
#3699 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> I just use ps -a
#3700 [18:27] <Dark_Fox_> Lists all processes by all users
#3701 [18:27] <Phenex> I typed ps -A and I got a big list
#3702 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> That's.. hm
#3703 [18:28] <Phenex> anyways, now that we can see all my processes are we able to solve my error?
#3704 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Did you give me the output of java -version?
#3705 [18:28] <Phenex> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing
#3706 [18:29] <Phenex> thats the entire ouput
#3707 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#3709 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Sec, lemme pull up the pastebin you gave me earlier
#3710 [18:31] <Phenex> I can run minecraft again to get it if you want
#3711 [18:32] * VoxelHead is back
#3711 [18:32] <Phenex> Who cars?
#3712 [18:32] <Phenex> cares*
#3713 [18:32] <Phenex> Ha!
#3714 [18:32] <mitpatterson_> does vox do all this on his own? or does who ever owns him make him come and go?
#3715 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Vox is more or less autonomous
#3716 [18:33] <Phenex> Who created it?
#3717 [18:33] <mitpatterson_> so when he says he is going to go, does he just do that for fun/ or will he ignore commands while hes "gone"
#3718 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> A collaboration of developers including, in part, myself.
#3719 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> when told to be quiet or shut up (et cetera), it will not speak for ~7 minutes
#3720 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Command in *nix to list all java binaries installed?
#3721 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> (FAQs notwithstanding)
#3722 [18:34] <mitpatterson_> DopeGhoti what about when he decides just to "brb" on his own?
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#3724 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Just to make sure there's not some conflict with sun java and openjdk?
#3725 [18:34] <JonathanS> please can someone please get on my server and help me with my mob grinder
#3726 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: `sudo update-alternatives --list java`
#3727 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Could you pastebin.com the output of that command?
#3728 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> sudo update-alternatives --list java
#3729 [18:35] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: that's not allnix! D:
#3730 [18:35] <Phenex> yes, one moment
#3731 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: gesundheit
#3732 [18:35] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: IcanhazVoxelcontrol? :P
#3733 [18:35] <Phenex> Does it matter if im in a folder?
#3734 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3735 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> FCVO 'control'
#3736 [18:35] <mitpatterson_> DopeGhoti, when he brb's him self wil he respond?
#3737 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: what dod you want to be able to do
#3738 [18:35] <lukegb> kick people!
#3739 [18:35] <lukegb> make him shut up!
#3740 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> mitpatterson_: yes, though to a lesser extent.
#3741 [18:35] <lukegb> make him come back!
#3742 [18:36] <mitpatterson_> yah i want to be able to make him come back too, lol
#3743 [18:36] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
#3744 [18:36] <Phenex> is the output of that command
#3745 [18:38] <Phenex> I take it thats not the output you were hoping for?
#3746 [18:39] * Phenex has been trying to fix this problem for 7 hours now
#3746 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> No, it is.. which is why I'm doing a little research no
#3747 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> now
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#3749 [18:40] <Phenex> oh ok
#3750 [18:40] <Phenex> sorry :P
#3751 [18:42] <spaski> whats your problem btw Phenex?
#3752 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> spaski - http://pastebin.com/HU42pxAX
#3753 [18:43] <Phenex> Thank you Vulpine
#3754 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Could you pastebin the output of:
#3755 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep ing
#3756 [18:44] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/hdqR0nip
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#3758 [18:46] <GRIMREAPPER> hello
#3759 [18:47] <GRIMREAPPER> anyone have linux servers with mods?
#3760 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Could you install glxinfo?
#3761 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
#3762 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Then give me the output of this again:
#3763 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep ing
#3764 [18:48] <GRIMREAPPER> pacman get
#3765 [18:50] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/k88vgeuT
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#3767 [18:52] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#3768 [18:52] <Phenex> California!
#3769 [18:53] <mitpatterson_> hey Thoatt
#3770 [18:53] <Thoatt> hey mitpatterson_
#3771 [18:53] <Phenex> Throatt! I got java finally lol..
#3772 [18:53] <Phenex> but ran into a mess of other problems
#3773 [18:53] <Thoatt> :)
#3774 [18:53] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3775 [18:53] <Thoatt> :/
#3776 [18:53] <jester> hello can someone help with with my little problem of my torches not giving off light?
#3777 [18:54] <jester> beta 1.4
#3778 [18:54] <GRIMREAPPER> how does a minecraft server work with a mod? I see people with mods but duno if i need to uplaod the mod to my linux server or is it just user client based...I'm on linux
#3779 [18:54] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt on my server i wend down in your cave tos e what you where doing, and there were a mess of thses: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Slime
#3780 [18:54] <Thoatt> lol
#3781 [18:54] <mitpatterson_> i had to kill them
#3782 [18:55] <Thoatt> slime ftw
#3783 [18:55] <Thoatt> anywho, brb
#3784 [18:55] <mitpatterson_> probaly more by now
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#3786 [18:55] <Kinetic1028> Hi.
#3787 [18:56] <jester> hi
#3788 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> GRIMREAPPER - You would need to mod the server
#3789 [18:56] <jester> so anyone know why torches would not be lighting up?? my old torches light areas but new ones placed do not light up.
#3790 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Thoatt - I'm so confused as to what ubuntu is doing
#3791 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Trying to help Phenex here
#3792 [18:57] <GRIMREAPPER> do i need to make a mod directory or just wing it?
#3793 [18:57] <gPad2002> GRIMREAPPER: Depends
#3794 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> No, you would need to find a mod, and follow the directions
#3795 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> if you're going for an SMP mod, you're looking at bukkit
#3796 [18:57] <gPad2002> Do you want a wrapper or a full on custom server?
#3797 [18:57] <GRIMREAPPER> k
#3798 [18:58] <GRIMREAPPER> yes smp
#3799 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> the installation directions for bukkit are at
#3800 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-install-bukkit-newb-friendly.245/
#3801 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> You can find further help at #bukkit
#3802 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Thoatt - You there?
#3803 [18:58] <mitpatterson_> thanks GreyVulpine i'll book mark that, might need it eventually
#3804 [18:58] * GreyVulpine stabs Thoatt
#3804 [18:58] <mitpatterson_> GreyVulpine, he brb'ed
#3805 [18:58] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: What would be useful things for the bot to track and report on in here?
#3806 [18:59] <VoxelHead> kittens
#3807 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3808 [18:59] <gPad2002> Lol.
#3809 [18:59] <gPad2002> I can take any kind of RSS or ATOM feed currently
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#3811 [19:00] <gPad2002> I can probably implement web APIs too
#3812 [19:00] <gPad2002> Not sure about socket, but HTTP is good
#3813 [19:00] <Phenex> Any luck Vulpine?
#3814 [19:01] <gPad2002> Phenex: You the guy we were helping to install java earlier?
#3815 [19:01] <gPad2002> :P
#3816 [19:01] <Thoatt> ok back
#3817 [19:01] <Thoatt> yes GreyVulpine?
#3818 [19:01] <Phenex> hahaha
#3819 [19:01] <Phenex> Yes
#3820 [19:01] <VoxelHead> Call them, and tell them we're going to blow them up!
#3821 [19:01] <Phenex> I got java now
#3822 [19:01] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, GreyVulpine stabbed you earlier
#3823 [19:01] <gPad2002> Is it working?
#3824 [19:01] <Phenex> I am having a error when I run the game though
#3825 [19:01] <mitpatterson_> WTF VoxelHead
#3826 [19:01] <gPad2002> Go on
#3827 [19:01] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: I seen
#3828 [19:01] <Phenex> Vulpin is helping
#3829 [19:01] <Phenex> I believe he is researching or something
#3830 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Thoatt!
#3831 [19:02] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, when you get a hance hop on my server
#3832 [19:02] * GreyVulpine stabs Thoatt
#3832 [19:02] <gPad2002> What's the error?
#3833 [19:02] <gPad2002> I might know something
#3834 [19:02] <Phenex> but hes been taking pastebin's from me for various oupts trying to help
#3835 [19:02] <GRIMREAPPER> lol
#3836 [19:02] <Phenex> ask vulpine to post the pastepin
#3837 [19:02] <Thoatt> what GreyVulpine ._.
#3838 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> I need a nix guru to decipher this for me
#3839 [19:02] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Whats his error?
#3840 [19:02] <VoxelHead> The same as mine sep better i guess.
#3841 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: ?
#3842 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Okay, to start off
#3843 [19:02] <VoxelHead> lots and lots of tea
#3844 [19:02] <Thoatt> What makes you think I'm a nix guru? rofl...
#3845 [19:02] <mitpatterson_> WTF vox, shut up
#3846 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/HU42pxAX
#3847 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time."
#3848 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Java is installed, thoatt walked him through that
#3849 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> output of sudo update-alternatives --list java
#3850 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: output of `pstree -pa | grep java`?
#3851 [19:03] <VoxelHead> If only I hadn't used up all my lifelines
#3852 [19:03] <gPad2002> Update LWJGL mNually?
#3853 [19:03] <Thoatt> http://pastebin.com/HU42pxAX
#3854 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
#3855 [19:03] <Thoatt> right click fail
#3856 [19:03] <mitpatterson_> shutt up VoxelHead
#3857 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> This is what I'm having trouble reading
#3858 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/k88vgeuT
#3859 [19:03] <TobiX> VoxelHead: Shut up
#3860 [19:03] <VoxelHead> *goes to find someone more interesting to talk to*
#3861 [19:04] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Integrated graphics
#3862 [19:04] <jester> talk to me voxel I need some help ;)
#3863 [19:04] <gPad2002> He has no graphics card
#3864 [19:04] <Phenex> It is integrated
#3865 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: The problem lools like either LWJGL is already running, or there's a lockfile somehere that's making it think it's still running
#3866 [19:04] <TobiX> "OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer"
#3867 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: output of `pstree -pa | grep java`?
#3868 [19:04] <gPad2002> Phenex: That will cause crashes anyway
#3869 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Ask Phenex
#3870 [19:04] <TobiX> NO 3d driver
#3871 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> No 3d driver?
#3872 [19:04] <gPad2002> I was thinking that
#3873 [19:05] <Thoatt> have them updated to a partner driver lol
#3874 [19:05] <gPad2002> But its integrated anyway
#3875 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Is there a partner driver for intel graphics?>
#3876 [19:05] <gPad2002> So there probably isn't a good one
#3877 [19:05] <Thoatt> should be.
#3878 [19:05] <gPad2002> Yeah therre is
#3879 [19:05] <gPad2002> One sec
#3880 [19:05] <TobiX> jester: VoxelHead won't help you, he's a bot
#3881 [19:05] <Phenex> getting output of pstree -pa | grep java now
#3882 [19:05] <jester> lol nice thanks TobiX
#3883 [19:05] <TobiX> Ubuntu?
#3884 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3885 [19:05] <Phenex> pstree -pa | grep java
#3886 [19:05] <Phenex> woops
#3887 [19:05] <Phenex> | | |-grep,7249 --color=auto java
#3888 [19:06] <gPad2002> Here's your answer
#3889 [19:06] <gPad2002> "You will not need any special drivers."
#3890 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> So.. what, Phenex is out of luck?
#3891 [19:06] <gPad2002> No, not necessarily
#3892 [19:06] <Phenex> Brutal.....I've been on here for 7 hours..
#3893 [19:07] <gPad2002> Working on it
#3894 [19:07] <Phenex> Thank you
#3895 [19:07] <gPad2002> Oh right
#3896 [19:07] <Phenex> I have got help from at least 6 people today.
#3897 [19:07] <gPad2002> Do java -version
#3898 [19:08] <gPad2002> What does it say?
#3899 [19:08] <Phenex> its most revent
#3900 [19:08] <Phenex> we've done that
#3901 [19:08] <Phenex> but one sec
#3902 [19:08] <gPad2002> Doesn't matter
#3903 [19:08] <gPad2002> Go
#3904 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> <Phenex> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing
#3905 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> [06:29.55pm] <Phenex> thats the entire ouput
#3906 [19:08] <Phenex> Thankls
#3907 [19:08] <gPad2002> Yeah
#3908 [19:08] <gPad2002> He's not using Sun's java
#3909 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> He's not?
#3910 [19:08] <gPad2002> That's the problem
#3911 [19:08] <Phenex> ...
#3912 [19:08] <Phenex> then throatt had me install the wrong thing
#3913 [19:08] <gPad2002> Indeed
#3914 [19:08] <Thoatt> I did not >.>
#3915 [19:08] <Phenex> He walked me through the install
#3916 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> But the output of list java is..
#3917 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
#3918 [19:09] <gPad2002> ...
#3919 [19:09] <gPad2002> The version is not consistent
#3920 [19:09] <gPad2002> And
#3921 [19:09] <gPad2002> Thats the only thing I can find that causes that error
#3922 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Since when?
#3923 [19:09] <TobiX> Which one of those is that Intel card? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsIntel
#3924 [19:09] <gPad2002> Google it, mc forums is full of it
#3925 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> I have...
#3926 [19:10] <gPad2002> 82845G/GL
#3927 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking at video card, java, and multiple java/lwjgl instances
#3928 [19:10] <gPad2002> Not in the list
#3929 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> We've looked at java and multiple lwjgl instances
#3930 [19:10] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Dude
#3931 [19:10] <gPad2002> Google: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time
#3932 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Right, I've done that
#3933 [19:10] <gPad2002> What's the first result?
#3934 [19:10] <gPad2002> MC forum.
#3935 [19:10] <gPad2002> Ubuntu,
#3936 [19:10] <gPad2002> 10.20
#3937 [19:10] <gPad2002> .10*
#3938 [19:11] <AG_Scott> I want 10.20 :(
#3939 [19:11] <Phenex> lol
#3940 [19:11] <Thoatt> rofl
#3941 [19:11] <gPad2002> Phenex: Do which java
#3942 [19:11] <gPad2002> Lol ag
#3943 [19:11] <gPad2002> Scott*
#3944 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Lol ag... Lag
#3945 [19:11] <Phenex> huh
#3946 [19:11] <Phenex> do what
#3947 [19:11] * gPad2002 smacks VoxelHead
#3947 [19:11] <gPad2002> Which java
#3948 [19:11] * VoxelHead smacks gPad2002 back with AG_Elias
#3948 [19:11] <gPad2002> In a terminal
#3949 [19:11] <Thoatt> 11.04 needs to hurry up >.>
#3950 [19:11] <AG_Scott> Thoatt, you are crazy.
#3951 [19:12] <AG_Scott> have you seen Unity?
#3952 [19:12] <gPad2002> Can someone kill the bot? Please?
#3953 [19:12] <VoxelHead> About half-past three, I think.
#3954 [19:12] <AG_Scott> I hope next month never comes.
#3955 [19:12] <Thoatt> yeah... multitouch unity... ftmfw
#3956 [19:12] <AG_Scott> well this month
#3957 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#3958 [19:12] <AG_Scott> Unity freaking sucks
#3959 [19:12] <AG_Scott> it cant do basic stuff
#3960 [19:12] <VoxelHead> Hai!
#3961 [19:12] <Phenex> /usr/bin/java
#3962 [19:12] <AG_Elias> VoxelHead is a staff member.
#3963 [19:12] <AG_Elias> He is not a bot.
#3964 [19:12] <Thoatt> Then just don't use it.. simple as that lol
#3965 [19:12] <AG_Elias> He just hates you, personally.
#3966 [19:12] <gPad2002> Ok, um
#3967 [19:12] <AG_Scott> Thoatt, I don't plan to...
#3968 [19:12] <gPad2002> Type this: /usr/bin/java -version
#3969 [19:13] <gPad2002> If its the same, I'm confused
#3970 [19:13] <Phenex> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#3971 [19:13] <Thoatt> Natty Narwhal.... Redditers unite!
#3972 [19:13] <gPad2002> It is..
#3973 [19:13] <Phenex> heh...
#3974 [19:13] <Phenex> Great!......
#3975 [19:13] <gPad2002> Ok, do me a favour
#3976 [19:13] <Thoatt> Phenex: did you get it installed through command line?
#3977 [19:13] <Phenex> Anythhing..
#3978 [19:13] <gPad2002> Download the minecraft launcher.jar
#3979 [19:14] <gPad2002> Thoatt: We used the self extracting bin
#3980 [19:14] <Thoatt> ahh gotcha
#3981 [19:14] <gPad2002> Those are symlinks to the folder, its in his downloads
#3982 [19:14] <Phenex> the browser version?
#3983 [19:14] <JonathanS> is anyone willing to join my hamachi server to help me with my mob grinder?
#3984 [19:14] <gPad2002> Phenex: The desktop version
#3985 [19:14] <Thoatt> Phenex:
#3986 [19:14] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1301786067834
#3987 [19:14] <gPad2002> Not that
#3988 [19:14] <gPad2002> Thats the actual game
#3989 [19:14] <gPad2002> Isn't it?
#3990 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> no, that's the launcher
#3991 [19:15] <Thoatt> You said the minecraft.jar...
#3992 [19:15] <gPad2002> Oh, ok
#3993 [19:15] <gPad2002> The launcher yes
#3994 [19:15] <Phenex> done?
#3995 [19:15] <gPad2002> Put it on your desktop
#3996 [19:15] <gPad2002> Go to terminal,
#3997 [19:15] <gPad2002> cd ~/Desktop
#3998 [19:15] <Thoatt> Was there something inherently confising about this statment? 19:13:17 <gPad2002> Download the minecraft launcher.jar
#3999 [19:15] <Thoatt> or am I missing something?
#4000 [19:16] <gPad2002> Thoatt: :P
#4001 [19:16] <Thoatt> confusing*
#4002 [19:16] <Phenex> ready
#4003 [19:16] <gPad2002> Phenex: Then,
#4004 [19:16] <TobiX> GreyVulpine: Could you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to some pastebin?
#4005 [19:16] <gPad2002> java -jar minecraft.jar
#4006 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> I don't run *nix right now
#4007 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> This is Phenex's problem
#4008 [19:16] <Phenex> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#4009 [19:16] <gPad2002> Phenex: The console will spit out the full errors encountered
#4010 [19:17] <gPad2002> Phenex: Did you name it that?
#4011 [19:17] <Thoatt> are you in the desktop?
#4012 [19:17] <TobiX> Phenex: Could you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to some pastebin? I want to verify that your system loads the right graphics driver...
#4013 [19:17] <Phenex> yes
#4014 [19:17] <Thoatt> are you at the location of the minecraft.jar file ***
#4015 [19:17] <Phenex> one person at a time
#4016 [19:17] <Phenex> I put the file I downloaded on the desktop
#4017 [19:17] <Phenex> and I am running the command line from desktop
#4018 [19:17] <Phenex> yes
#4019 [19:17] <Phenex> wait
#4020 [19:17] <gPad2002> What did you call the file?
#4021 [19:17] <Phenex> I know what the problem was
#4022 [19:17] <Phenex> my bad
#4023 [19:17] <Thoatt> lol
#4024 [19:17] <gPad2002> :P
#4025 [19:17] <Phenex> it saved as (2) cuz of the other one
#4026 [19:18] <gPad2002> Heh
#4027 [19:18] <Thoatt> ahh
#4028 [19:18] <gPad2002> Rename it and try again
#4029 [19:18] * Thoatt downloads the nightly build of Ubuntu
#4029 [19:18] <TobiX> Thoatt: Are you crazy? ;)
#4030 [19:18] <gPad2002> Lol.
#4031 [19:18] <Phenex> still says the same thing :S
#4032 [19:19] <Thoatt> natty narwhal ftw
#4033 [19:19] <gPad2002> Phenex: In the console
#4034 [19:19] <gPad2002> Read that
#4035 [19:19] <Phenex> console? yes
#4036 [19:19] <Thoatt> Phenex:
#4037 [19:19] <Phenex> is there a difference between that and the terminal?
#4038 [19:19] <gPad2002> Yeah
#4039 [19:20] <gPad2002> Usually the terminal has a longer error
#4040 [19:20] <Thoatt> java mine[tab]
#4041 [19:20] <jester> has anyone had the problem with torches not working?
#4042 [19:20] <Thoatt> no need for -jar
#4043 [19:20] <Thoatt> no jester
#4044 [19:20] <Thoatt> try force updating
#4045 [19:20] <Phenex> so what am I typing
#4046 [19:20] <Phenex> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#4047 [19:20] <Phenex> ??
#4048 [19:20] <Thoatt> java mine[tab]
#4049 [19:20] <Thoatt> add.jar
#4050 [19:20] <Thoatt> if you have to
#4051 [19:20] <Thoatt> (which you will)
#4052 [19:20] <gPad2002> He won't
#4053 [19:20] <Thoatt> he will.
#4054 [19:21] <gPad2002> Why?
#4055 [19:21] <gPad2002> There's no folder or other file with mine in it
#4056 [19:21] <Phenex> what am I typing into the terminal exactly.
#4057 [19:21] <Thoatt> because tab doesn't add the extentsion.
#4058 [19:21] <gPad2002> Yes it does..
#4059 [19:21] <Thoatt> java minecraft.jar
#4060 [19:21] <Thoatt> gPad2002: no it does not.
#4061 [19:21] <jester> ok throat will do
#4062 [19:21] <TobiX> Thoatt: It does.
#4063 [19:21] <jester> um thoatt*
#4064 [19:21] <gPad2002> Thoatt: Ubuntu VPS here, and it does
#4065 [19:21] <Thoatt> TobiX: it doesn't... I'm doing it right now...
#4066 [19:22] <Phenex> i typed java minecraft.jar and got some erros
#4067 [19:22] <TobiX> Thoatt: Then you have multiple files with the smae prefix and different extensions
#4068 [19:22] <Thoatt> what are the errors?
#4069 [19:22] <gPad2002> It does that if there are two similarly named files
#4070 [19:22] <Thoatt> nope... the only file in the directory..
#4071 [19:22] <Phenex> i deleted the other minecraft.jar
#4072 [19:22] <TobiX> You need "java -jar minecraft.jar" or however your jar is called
#4073 [19:22] <Thoatt> you... do... not.. need... -jar
#4074 [19:23] <gPad2002> Yes you do
#4075 [19:23] <Thoatt> ffs... *facepalm*
#4076 [19:23] <gPad2002> It tries to load it as a class
#4077 [19:23] <gPad2002> Without it
#4078 [19:23] <JonathanS> is anyone willing to join my hamachi server to help me with my mob grinder?
#4079 [19:23] <Thoatt> It loads just fine without it...
#4080 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> JonathanS - PM me
#4081 [19:23] <gPad2002> Not here it doesn't
#4082 [19:23] <jester> thanks Thoatt lol that was it =(
#4083 [19:23] <gPad2002> Phenex: What errors you getting?
#4084 [19:23] <Phenex> with -jar it says unable to access
#4085 [19:24] <gPad2002> And without it says..
#4086 [19:24] <Phenex> andrew@andrew-desktop:~$ java -jar minecraft.jar Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#4087 [19:24] <Thoatt> srsly... I installed a completely blank 10.10 with just sun java to help with Phenex...
#4088 [19:24] <TobiX> Thoatt: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: minecraft/jar
#4089 [19:24] <gPad2002> Heh
#4090 [19:24] <gPad2002> See
#4091 [19:24] <VoxelHead> ;)
#4092 [19:24] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/wHZx8Txi
#4093 [19:24] <Phenex> without
#4094 [19:24] <gPad2002> Shush, VoxelHead
#4095 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Shut up voxs
#4096 [19:24] <gPad2002> Yeah that's what I thought
#4097 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Shut up VoxelHead
#4098 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#4099 [19:25] <gPad2002> Phenex: Type this exactly then, with quotes..
#4100 [19:25] <TobiX> You need "-jar" if you want to "run" a jar file
#4101 [19:25] <gPad2002> java -jar "minecraft (2).jar"
#4102 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> JonathanS - You there? PM me.
#4103 [19:25] <JonathanS> ok
#4104 [19:25] <Phenex> its not called (2) anymore
#4105 [19:25] <gPad2002> Oh
#4106 [19:25] <Phenex> I changed it to minecraft.jar
#4107 [19:25] <gPad2002> What is it ca-
#4108 [19:25] <Phenex> and deleted the otherone
#4109 [19:25] <gPad2002> You know what
#4110 [19:25] <gPad2002> Do this:
#4111 [19:25] <gPad2002> java -jar mi
#4112 [19:25] <gPad2002> Then hit tab
#4113 [19:25] <gPad2002> Before enter
#4114 [19:26] * Cobalt [Cobalt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4115 [19:26] <Cobalt> Hello...
#4116 [19:26] <JonathanS> its not letting me pm u
#4117 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4118 [19:27] <Cobalt> Does anyone know how to update a video card driver? o.o;
#4119 [19:27] <TobiX> Thoatt: If you want to skip -jar you have to run "java -cp minecraft.jar net/minecraft/MinecraftLauncher" which is a little bit wordy ;)
#4120 [19:27] <Phenex> pushing tab doesnt do anything
#4121 [19:27] <gPad2002> Phenex: Then its not in the right folder
#4122 [19:27] <TobiX> Phenex: What does "ls" list?
#4123 [19:27] <Thoatt> TobiX: I've never had to.. and it works perfectly fine.
#4124 [19:27] <Phenex> Desktop Downloads Music Public Videos Documents examples.desktop Pictures Templates
#4125 [19:27] <gPad2002> Oh right
#4126 [19:27] <gPad2002> cd Desktop
#4127 [19:27] <gPad2002> Then do it
#4128 [19:28] <TobiX> Wrong folder, "cd Desktop"
#4129 [19:28] * gPad2002 wins
#4129 [19:28] <TobiX> gPad2002: :)
#4130 [19:28] <Phenex> hmm?
#4131 [19:28] <gPad2002> :P
#4132 [19:28] <Thoatt> cd Desktop
#4133 [19:28] <Phenex> did that
#4134 [19:28] <gPad2002> Then the java line
#4135 [19:28] <gPad2002> java -jar mi
#4136 [19:28] <gPad2002> Tab
#4137 [19:28] <gPad2002> Enter
#4138 [19:29] * gPad2002 <3 tab completion
#4138 [19:29] <Phenex> the game launched
#4139 [19:29] <gPad2002> Particularly with suicide nix..
#4140 [19:29] <Phenex> at login screen
#4141 [19:29] <gPad2002> Phenex: Go for it
#4142 [19:30] <Phenex> crashed
#4143 [19:30] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/JKh02hZs
#4144 [19:30] <gPad2002> Fuu
#4145 [19:30] <Phenex> lol..
#4146 [19:30] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, hope you don't mind i'm destorying part of your "circle thiny"
#4147 [19:30] <gPad2002> Ok
#4148 [19:31] <gPad2002> Failed to get system properties
#4149 [19:31] <gPad2002> Hmm
#4150 [19:31] <gPad2002> Humour me
#4151 [19:31] <Phenex> two clowns walk into a bar
#4152 [19:31] <gPad2002> Sudo java -jar mi
#4153 [19:31] <gPad2002> Tab enter
#4154 [19:32] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: doesn't matter to me.
#4155 [19:32] <gPad2002> Phenex: "ouch?"
#4156 [19:32] <gPad2002> :P
#4157 [19:32] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4158 [19:32] <Phenex> launched, logging in.
#4159 [19:32] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, now if i messed with your glass tower you might get made right?lol
#4160 [19:32] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: wouldn't matter to me.
#4161 [19:32] <mitpatterson_> lol
#4162 [19:32] <Phenex> downloading packages...
#4163 [19:33] * gPad2002 is hopeful
#4163 [19:33] <Phenex> nope.
#4164 [19:33] <gPad2002> Damn
#4165 [19:33] <mitpatterson_> also Thoatt when you get back, i want you to do a Secuirty "audit" of my place for me
#4166 [19:33] <gPad2002> Ok, its not permissions then
#4167 [19:33] <TobiX> Phenex: Repoduced your error. I get this error on my Linux system which does not have any 3d Acceleration
#4168 [19:33] <Thoatt> of your server?
#4169 [19:33] <gPad2002> That could be the problem..
#4170 [19:33] <mitpatterson_> of my house
#4171 [19:33] <Thoatt> oh... ok lol
#4172 [19:33] <Phenex> but why can I run it in Windows fine? :/
#4173 [19:33] <gPad2002> Drivers
#4174 [19:34] <gPad2002> Its all about the drivers
#4175 [19:34] <Phenex> hmph
#4176 [19:34] <gPad2002> One sec
#4177 [19:34] <TobiX> Phenex: Could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log anywhere?
#4178 [19:34] <Phenex> I have a driver that I downloaded.
#4179 [19:34] <gPad2002> Did you install it?
#4180 [19:34] <Phenex> IOdk how
#4181 [19:34] <Phenex> Noone here could explain to me
#4182 [19:34] <gPad2002> What's it named?
#4183 [19:34] <Phenex> cuz I got from 3rd part site
#4184 [19:34] <Phenex> one second
#4185 [19:34] <Phenex> ill get the link of hte dl
#4186 [19:34] <gPad2002> What's after the .
#4187 [19:34] <gPad2002> :P
#4188 [19:35] <Phenex> http://intel.driversdown.com/Intel-drivers/Intel-Board-D845GVSR-video-driver_73977.shtml
#4189 [19:35] <Phenex> thats the driver I dl's
#4190 [19:36] <Phenex> bash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Permission denied
#4191 [19:36] <Thoatt> sudo
#4192 [19:36] <gPad2002> Ok
#4193 [19:36] <gPad2002> Its a tgz
#4194 [19:36] <gPad2002> So tar -xzf filename.tar.gz
#4195 [19:37] <gPad2002> (that's right, right?)
#4196 [19:37] <Phenex> huh
#4197 [19:37] <Phenex> the file type?
#4198 [19:37] <gPad2002> Its a .tar.gz
#4199 [19:37] <gPad2002> Right?
#4200 [19:37] <Phenex> yes
#4201 [19:37] <gPad2002> That's a form of archive
#4202 [19:37] <gPad2002> Like zip
#4203 [19:37] <Phenex> okay
#4204 [19:38] <gPad2002> Open and extract it
#4205 [19:38] <gPad2002> Then tell me what files you have
#4206 [19:38] <gPad2002> If there's a read me, pastebin it
#4207 [19:39] * bokaholic [bokaholic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4208 [19:39] <bokaholic> ;.;
#4209 [19:39] <Phenex> it extracted into a .tar folder or whatever?
#4210 [19:39] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4211 [19:39] <Thoatt> hey bokaholic :)
#4212 [19:39] <bokaholic> My electricity went out. Now I'm getting 'FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#4213 [19:39] <bokaholic> wtffffff
#4214 [19:39] <bokaholic> :I
#4215 [19:39] <bokaholic> Hay man :D
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#4217 [19:39] <Phenex> ??
#4218 [19:40] <Thoatt> bokaholic: pm?
#4219 [19:40] <TobiX> Phenex: The hardware is from ~2004?
#4220 [19:40] <Phenex> no idea..
#4221 [19:40] <TobiX> D845GVSR?
#4222 [19:41] <Phenex> yes
#4223 [19:41] <Phenex> gPad: what do I do after I extract the .tar.gz
#4224 [19:41] <Phenex> it make a .tar file
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#4226 [19:42] <Phenex> similar to the .tar.gz
#4227 [19:42] <gPad2002> Yeah
#4228 [19:42] <gPad2002> Extract that too
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#4230 [19:43] <Phenex> all it did was open my downloads folder
#4231 [19:43] <gPad2002> Sounds dodgy
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#4234 [19:44] <Phenex> and all i see is the java stuff
#4235 [19:44] <Phenex> and the .tar.gz
#4236 [19:44] <Phenex> and the .tar
#4237 [19:44] <gPad2002> Open a terminal there
#4238 [19:45] <gPad2002> Do tar -xzf file.tar.gz
#4239 [19:45] <Thoatt> then do
#4240 [19:45] <Thoatt> gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
#4241 [19:45] <Thoatt> you're welcome
#4242 [19:45] <Thoatt> ;)
#4243 [19:45] <gPad2002> Thoatt: ...
#4244 [19:45] <VoxelHead> =)
#4245 [19:45] <Phenex> lol?
#4246 [19:45] <Thoatt> lol
#4247 [19:45] <Thoatt> xD
#4248 [19:45] <Phenex> Ill assume thats bad
#4249 [19:45] <Thoatt> nope
#4250 [19:45] <gPad2002> Looks legit
#4251 [19:45] <Thoatt> it's good, just nothing pertaining to anything
#4252 [19:45] <gPad2002> Useless,
#4253 [19:46] <gPad2002> But legit
#4254 [19:46] <Thoatt> it is not!
#4255 [19:46] <Phenex> tar (child): file.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
#4256 [19:46] <Thoatt> Phenex: it moves the minimize/maximize/close button to the top right
#4257 [19:46] <gPad2002> Not literally file
#4258 [19:46] <gPad2002> Whatever the name of the file is
#4259 [19:46] <Phenex> huh?
#4260 [19:46] <Phenex> oh i didnt notice
#4261 [19:46] <Thoatt> lol
#4262 [19:47] <gPad2002> Lol.
#4263 [19:48] <Phenex> andrew@andrew-desktop:~/Downloads$ tar -xzf GRAPHICS_1.3_RHEL4_U1.tar.gz tar (child): GRAPHICS_1.3_RHEL4_U1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
#4264 [19:48] <gPad2002> You didn't cd...
#4265 [19:48] <Phenex> Im lost lol
#4266 [19:48] <Thoatt> do ls
#4267 [19:49] <Thoatt> make sure you are in the right folder
#4268 [19:49] <TobiX> RHEL? Red HAt Enterprice Linux? That will not work on Ubuntu
#4269 [19:49] <Phenex> GRAPHICS_1.3_RHEL4_U1.TAR jre1.6.0_24 GRAPHICS_1.3_RHEL4_U1.TAR.GZ jre-6u24-linux-i586.bin
#4270 [19:49] <Phenex> same folder as the driver
#4271 [19:49] <Phenex> oh
#4272 [19:49] <Phenex> I was told it would by someone :S
#4273 [19:49] <Phenex> can't remember who
#4274 [19:50] <gPad2002> It might
#4275 [19:50] <gPad2002> Fenian
#4276 [19:50] <gPad2002> Debian*
#4277 [19:50] <Thoatt> it /might/
#4278 [19:51] <Phenex> so what shoulkd I try now
#4279 [19:51] <gPad2002> Actual ubuntu drivers
#4280 [19:51] <Phenex> hmph
#4281 [19:52] <gPad2002> :P
#4282 [19:52] <Phenex> do they need to be 10.10 specific?
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#4284 [19:53] <gPad2002> Unsure
#4285 [19:53] * gPad2002 pokes TobiX
#4285 [19:53] * Phenex pokes TobiX
#4285 [19:54] * Phenex pokes Xales
#4285 [19:54] <Phenex> maybe he will know!
#4286 [19:54] <gPad2002> :P
#4287 [19:55] <Phenex> Xales: you know where I could find Ubuntu 10.10 friendly drivers for a D845GSVR???
#4288 [19:55] <Phenex> lol
#4289 [19:56] <gPad2002> inb4google
#4290 [19:56] <TobiX> Intel does not have newer drivers since this product is out of production/support...
#4291 [19:57] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#4292 [19:57] <Phenex> I dont have any drivers for it at the moment
#4293 [19:57] <mitpatterson_> shut up vox
#4294 [19:57] <Phenex> just the Ubuntu default drivers
#4295 [19:57] <VoxelHead> hai!
#4296 [19:57] <Phenex> shut up, VoxelHead
#4297 [19:57] <TobiX> The Ubuntu default drivers should support 3D (at least a bit)
#4298 [19:57] <gPad2002> Phenex: Doesn't ubuntu have a driver tool..
#4299 [19:57] <gPad2002> ?
#4300 [19:57] <Phenex> Doesnt find anything
#4301 [19:57] <Phenex> Ill try again
#4302 [19:57] <gPad2002> Hmm
#4303 [19:58] <mitpatterson_> i vote viirtual machine time
#4304 [19:58] <gPad2002> Nah
#4305 [19:58] <gPad2002> Not powerful enough
#4306 [19:58] <gPad2002> By far
#4307 [19:58] <Phenex> huh
#4308 [19:58] <mitpatterson_> oh, i keep forgeting he wants to play the game not run a serve
#4309 [19:58] <TobiX> Phenex: I really would like to see your "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" -> "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
#4310 [19:58] <TobiX> Phenex: Could be a lot text...
#4311 [19:59] <Phenex> type which one of those in
#4312 [19:59] <TobiX> The last one
#4313 [19:59] <Phenex> does the directory matter?
#4314 [19:59] <gPad2002> No
#4315 [20:00] <Phenex> a giant list of invalid arguments
#4316 [20:00] <Phenex> and I mean giant
#4317 [20:00] <gPad2002> Lol.
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#4319 [20:00] <Phenex> [ 18642.810] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument
#4320 [20:00] <TobiX> Phenex: Could you upload that file to e.g. http://www.4shared.com/ ???
#4321 [20:00] <Phenex> like two thousand times
#4322 [20:00] <Phenex> pastebin wont handle it?
#4323 [20:01] <gPad2002> No, lol, it won't
#4324 [20:01] <ircleuser> Hi everyone... names Trent... hoping someone can help me with Minecraft on MAC
#4325 [20:01] <Phenex> upload which file?
#4326 [20:02] <TobiX> Phenex: In the file select dialog go to "Filesystem" -> "var" -> "log" -> "Xorg.0.log"
#4327 [20:03] <Phenex> in the file select dialog?
#4328 [20:03] <tandt2> ?
#4329 [20:03] <gPad2002> The thing that asks for the file to upload
#4330 [20:03] <TobiX> tandt2: What seems to be the problem?
#4331 [20:04] <tandt2> hi TobiX... i have downloaded a map for Minecraft and I now can't figure out how to use it
#4332 [20:04] <Phenex> errg have to make an account there to see the file? LS
#4333 [20:05] <Phenex> :S*
#4334 [20:05] <TobiX> Phenex: No, there should be an "Upload" button right on the front page
#4335 [20:05] <Phenex> I clicked that
#4336 [20:05] <Phenex> said uploaded successfuly
#4337 [20:05] <Phenex> then said to view your file, sign uop
#4338 [20:06] <Phenex> anyway I am looking at the uploaded file
#4339 [20:06] <Phenex> how do i get it to you
#4340 [20:07] <TobiX> Hmm... Strange...
#4341 [20:07] <Phenex> http://www.4shared.com/dir/7LQRpF8Y/_online.html
#4342 [20:07] <Phenex> ??
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#4344 [20:07] <TobiX> Phenex: Right. That works
#4345 [20:07] <Paag> Greetings, channel. First time here.
#4346 [20:08] <Paag> My friends and I have a question.
#4347 [20:08] <Paag> We are setting up a MP server, and are thinking about importing a single player game. What all will be losing access to? (like Lapis lazuli, for example)]
#4348 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean paag?
#4349 [20:09] <Phenex> Any progress TobiX?
#4350 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> You won't be losing access to anything, if it's a world generated recently, imported into a server running the recent version
#4351 [20:09] <Paag> well, as we understand it, there are some things in the game that don't show up until a new world is created.
#4352 [20:09] <fogWraith> Your items will be lost
#4353 [20:09] <fogWraith> But the world will be there
#4354 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see what you're asking
#4355 [20:09] <fogWraith> With buildings
#4356 [20:09] <Paag> no, this game is many versions old
#4357 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Before 1.3, lapis lazuli wasn't in the game, correct?
#4358 [20:10] <fogWraith> 1.3+ will convert your old map
#4359 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> All the world that's already generated, won't have lapis lazuli on the map
#4360 [20:10] <fogWraith> When you explore where you haven't explored, lapis will be available
#4361 [20:10] <TobiX> Phenex: Seems your system fails to load the intel driver and falls back to a generic graphics drivewr (fbdev), which of course, has no 3D
#4362 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> All the chunk that's already been generated, won't have lapis, until you venture out to the edges
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#4364 [20:10] <Phenex> So, what can we do? :/
#4365 [20:10] <luckz> Paag: new places you explore will have new stuff
#4366 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Once you venture out to unexplored terrain, lapis will generate in the new chunks
#4367 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> As well as any new features
#4368 [20:11] <luckz> Paag: and your old terrain probably does not have biomes
#4369 [20:11] <Paag> ok. So we just have to find new areas, then.
#4370 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Right
#4371 [20:11] <Paag> right. Biomes, natural sandstone, etc.
#4372 [20:11] <Bob_Sack> mhm
#4373 [20:11] <Paag> ok. that was what we needed. Thank you all very much for the help
#4374 [20:12] <Phenex> Is there anything we can do to fix this? lol
#4375 [20:12] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go o_O. you poof!
#4376 [20:12] <luckz> Paag: you can also (with mods) run your old world as a tertiary world to visit when you feel like it, or so ;p
#4377 [20:12] <fogWraith> VoxelHead you penis, silence of the lambs lol of great wall china is democracy come again what
#4378 [20:12] <TobiX> Phenex: What is the output of "ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/" (checking if the intel driver is there...
#4379 [20:13] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/bzT4LA9Y
#4380 [20:15] <TobiX> Hmm... Intel driver is there...
#4381 [20:15] <TobiX> Phenex: Which Ubuntu version is that? Did you try to install graphics drivers before?
#4382 [20:15] <Phenex> 10.10
#4383 [20:16] <Phenex> This is my first time with Ubuntu
#4384 [20:16] <Phenex> 10.10 is the first Ive ever used
#4385 [20:17] <TobiX> Phenex: Hmm... Last resort: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel" - Let's try to reinstall the graphics driver!
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#4387 [20:18] <Phenex> installing
#4388 [20:18] <Phenex> done
#4389 [20:19] <Phenex> While I am here, a friend of mine is wondering if he can convert his single player map onto multiplayer
#4390 [20:19] <TobiX> Phenex: You have to restart for X to pick up the new driver...
#4391 [20:19] <Phenex> What do i do after that
#4392 [20:19] <Phenex> try to play?
#4393 [20:19] <TobiX> Phenex: Sure, just copy the world folder from the single player to the server...
#4394 [20:19] <TobiX> Yes.
#4395 [20:20] <Phenex> so, his world woud become the multiplayer world?
#4396 [20:20] <Phenex> and replace everything?
#4397 [20:20] <TobiX> Yes.
#4398 [20:21] <Phenex> okay
#4399 [20:21] <TobiX> There are editors out there to transfer chunks between worlds... But that's ugly ;)
#4400 [20:21] <Phenex> back soon with an updater.
#4401 [20:21] <Phenex> update*
#4402 [20:22] <iokry> Short question: Am I able to delete my individual skin which I changed in the profile on minecraft.net ?
#4403 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, delete?
#4404 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Change it back to default?
#4405 [20:24] <iokry> exactly
#4406 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Use a different skin?
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#4408 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Then download the reference skin from the profile page
#4409 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> and upload that
#4410 [20:25] <iokry> but i use a texture pack and want to see that skin
#4411 [20:25] <iokry> if i do like you say i see that default skin :(
#4412 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> I'm a little confused
#4413 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> What skins from what texture pack?
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#4415 [20:26] <iokry> the texture pack has a better skin with a higher resolution
#4416 [20:26] <iokry> which i cant upload
#4417 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Show me the texture pack
#4418 [20:26] <iokry> wait a sec
#4419 [20:26] <iokry> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861
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#4421 [20:27] <TheBobber> hi
#4422 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4423 [20:27] <TheBobber> how would I be able to add some form of light to my boat?
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#4425 [20:27] <Phenex> no go!@
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#4427 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> no TheBobber
#4428 [20:28] <iokry> When i play offline, I see the char-skin of the texturepack. but online on smp i see the skin from the profile
#4429 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> iokry - Right, that's kinda how that works.
#4430 [20:28] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/DHCKKr
#4431 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> The mod provides an hi-res skin, located in your .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar's skin folder
#4432 [20:28] <Phenex> where is TobiX!
#4433 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> When you play single player, or when you don't have access to minecraft's site, the game will use that skin
#4434 [20:29] <TheBobber> hmm... I can't sail at night because I can't see where I'm going well enough
#4435 [20:29] <iokry> right
#4436 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> There isn't a way to use that skin in SMP.
#4437 [20:29] <iokry> really?
#4438 [20:29] <iokry> ok
#4439 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#4440 [20:29] <Phenex> where is TobiX!
#4441 [20:29] <Phenex> I need his help again..
#4442 [20:30] <iokry> BUT. earlier, when i didnt upload a skin on the profile, it was possible!
#4443 [20:30] <iokry> thats the problem
#4444 [20:30] <TobiX> Phenex: So, nothing changed? :(
#4445 [20:30] <xales> iokry: You would have seen yourself like that, but nobody else would
#4446 [20:31] <xales> they would see you with the default skin
#4447 [20:31] <iokry> i just need my account to be resetted to zero or so
#4448 [20:31] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/9Bp5YN
#4449 [20:31] <iokry> yes, but i see me and them with the texturepack skin
#4450 [20:31] <Phenex> thats what was happpening in the terminal while the game tried to load
#4451 [20:31] <xales> There's really nothing you can do about that
#4452 [20:32] <TobiX> Phenex: What is the output of "lspci -nn -s 00:02.0"?
#4453 [20:32] <TheBobber> would redstone dust be usable if I just throw it on the boat by dropping it? I know it doesn't provide much light but anything is an improvement
#4454 [20:32] <xales> TobiX: `lshw` is easier :P
#4455 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> TheBobber - No.
#4456 [20:33] <iokry> can i contact the staff to reset my account? is it generally possible?
#4457 [20:33] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/nWSw57
#4458 [20:33] <xales> iokry: No and no
#4459 [20:33] <iokry> damn -.-
#4460 [20:34] <iokry> ok thanks
#4461 [20:34] <xales> Phenex: There's pretty much no way to play it on that card
#4462 [20:34] <xales> it's just far, far too old
#4463 [20:34] <Phenex> :(
#4464 [20:34] * VoxelHead gets out a board game for phenex
#4464 [20:34] <Phenex> lmao
#4465 [20:34] <TobiX> xales: I suspected something like that... Sorry...
#4466 [20:34] <Phenex> but when we talked the other night you said running Ubuntu might make my lag less
#4467 [20:35] <Phenex> because of system resources etc
#4468 [20:35] <xales> Phenex: If it's graphics lag, then no
#4469 [20:35] <xales> that card doesn't run it at all
#4470 [20:35] <gPad2002> If the card was still supported by intel
#4471 [20:35] <gPad2002> Then you'd get a few FPS more
#4472 [20:35] <gPad2002> But no more than that
#4473 [20:35] <Phenex> ARgh.
#4474 [20:35] <Phenex> Spent so much time in here today
#4475 [20:35] <Phenex> ..for nothing!:/
#4476 [20:35] <xales> If you want anything close to "good" performance, you need an entire new computer
#4477 [20:35] <TobiX> xales: It was running on the fbdev driver earlier, so I tried to fix that first...
#4478 [20:35] <gPad2002> Well
#4479 [20:35] <gPad2002> You learned nix
#4480 [20:35] <gPad2002> :P
#4481 [20:35] <Phenex> not really lol
#4482 [20:36] <Phenex> I copied and pasted most ofi t
#4483 [20:36] <gPad2002> :P
#4484 [20:36] <TobiX> Phenex: You could try putting an half-decent ATI/Nvida card into that system...
#4485 [20:36] <xales> TobiX: The card is just too old. Even significantly newer cards can't properly fun it
#4486 [20:36] <Phenex> blah
#4487 [20:36] <xales> s/fun/run/
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#4489 [20:37] <xales> and Phenex, if the video card is that old, I'd hate to see the rest of the computer
#4490 [20:37] <Phenex> heh
#4491 [20:37] <xales> it might be time to think about just getting a new one
#4492 [20:37] <VoxelHead> :)
#4493 [20:37] <Phenex> Its got a great sound card lol
#4494 [20:37] <Phenex> can't afford it
#4495 [20:37] <Phenex> Just going t obuy a mew video card for the other computer
#4496 [20:37] <Phenex> Just wanted to be able to play minecraft in my room and not in the basement
#4497 [20:38] <xales> Phenex: run `lshw` and pastebin it
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#4499 [20:38] <TobiX> Oh wait, that board does not even have a slot for grpahics cards...
#4500 [20:38] <xales> well then, that answers my question
#4501 [20:38] <TobiX> xales: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845gvsr/sb/CS-027150.htm
#4502 [20:38] <Phenex> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user. ^CI (sysfs)
#4503 [20:38] <Phenex> ?
#4504 [20:38] <xales> yeah, as I said, only option is to buy a new computer then...or just replace every component, which is the same thing I guess
#4505 [20:38] <xales> Phenex: just ignore it
#4506 [20:39] <Phenex> I could have told you it was pci lol
#4507 [20:39] <Phenex> the one downstairs is pci 1.0
#4508 [20:39] <Phenex> can you suggest a card that would be decent for it?
#4509 [20:39] <xales> there are none
#4510 [20:39] <TheBobber> pci? they don't even make that any more?
#4511 [20:40] <xales> anything that old would run it just as bad
#4512 [20:40] <Phenex> woops
#4513 [20:40] <Phenex> my bad
#4514 [20:40] <Phenex> pci -e 1.0
#4515 [20:40] <VoxelHead> Wooooooooops.
#4516 [20:40] <Phenex> shut up, VoxelHead
#4517 [20:40] <VoxelHead> fine
#4518 [20:41] <Phenex> Any suggestion for the pci-e 1.0?
#4519 [20:41] <xales> not really, it's the same problem
#4520 [20:41] <Phenex> sersious?
#4521 [20:41] <xales> can you pastebin the `lshw` please?
#4522 [20:41] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/FRrIYa
#4523 [20:42] <Phenex> its crap, I know lol
#4524 [20:42] <TheBobber> pcie go evga & don't use a texture pack, have fog on max... evga should still make a couple
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#4526 [20:43] <xales> Phenex: that's not `lshw`
#4527 [20:43] <TobiX> Phenex: Try to get a decent Nvidia ION Mini-ITX board for that system...
#4528 [20:43] <TobiX> OR mini-ATX even. My bad.
#4529 [20:43] <Phenex> i type lshw and thats what came up
#4530 [20:43] <lyude> Who here is having problems with getting chests to face a certain direction
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#4534 [20:45] <collinqt> IS this the channel to ask about server mods?
#4535 [20:45] <aetherian> no
#4536 [20:45] <Phenex> Do I type it with the ' '
#4537 [20:45] <TheBobber> oh wow
#4538 [20:45] <TheBobber> even evga doesn't have pcie 1.0.. they're all 2.0 now
#4539 [20:45] <TheBobber> welp
#4540 [20:45] <TheBobber> ebay
#4541 [20:46] <collinqt> Could i get a link to where i should be? :D
#4542 [20:46] <xales> #bukkit
#4543 [20:46] <collinqt> tyvm
#4544 [20:47] <Phenex> Idk what youre looking for then Xales. I typed lshw and thats what I was given
#4545 [20:47] <xales> Phenex: and you are using Ubuntu?
#4546 [20:48] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/6RTeVC
#4547 [20:48] <Phenex> I see what happened sorry
#4548 [20:48] <Phenex> and yes I am
#4549 [20:49] <aetherian> mibpaste... using ubuntu... I thought.... ow, my head
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#4551 [20:49] <Phenex> huh
#4552 [20:49] <xales> yeah, that's what I wanted
#4553 [20:49] <xales> it might "run" if you could actually fit a card in it, but it would still be very, very slow
#4554 [20:49] <Phenex> bah
#4555 [20:49] <Phenex> what a waste of time lol
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#4557 [20:51] <Phenex> well, I am going to consider buying a second hand computer...what would you consider "minimum requirements"
#4558 [20:51] <lyude> Is anyone having problems with placing chests?
#4559 [20:51] <xales> Phenex: really, any non-netbook computer from the last 3 years or so would be fine
#4560 [20:51] <xales> and any non-integrated ATI or nvidia card
#4561 [20:52] <Phenex> as far as processor goes, what would work well?
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#4563 [20:53] <xales> again, anything modern
#4564 [20:53] <Phenex> what would you consider modern? lol
#4565 [20:54] * Assumptio sigh
#4565 [20:54] <Assumptio> this is annoying
#4566 [20:54] <Phenex> boo hoo
#4567 [20:55] <xales> anything from the last 3 or 4 years
#4568 [20:55] <Phenex> ok..
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#4570 [20:56] <stile1987> allo
#4571 [20:56] <xales> hi
#4572 [20:56] <stile1987> so im just having some random issues with my mc server since i updated it and was looking for help
#4573 [20:57] <stile1987> when anybody tries to connect to the server they get disconnected before the world starts to load
#4574 [20:57] <stile1987> and get the Connection Reset error
#4575 [20:57] <stile1987> and the server says SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#4576 [20:58] <stile1987> anybody know anything that may point me in the right direction?
#4577 [21:00] <xales> are you able to connect?
#4578 [21:00] <stile1987> not locally and the computer the server runs on wont run mc
#4579 [21:00] <xales> is the server running a firewall?
#4580 [21:01] <stile1987> nope
#4581 [21:01] <xales> what OS?
#4582 [21:01] <stile1987> computer is even running in the DMZ for my router
#4583 [21:01] <stile1987> win7
#4584 [21:01] <stile1987> same as it used to be back before beta :S
#4585 [21:01] <stile1987> i love the sg1 reference with the name btw
#4586 [21:01] <xales> what do you mean "before beta"
#4587 [21:01] <stile1987> when i was running an alpha server
#4588 [21:01] <xales> and haha, you are one of two people in the 8 years I've used it who got it :o
#4589 [21:02] <VoxelHead> evaluation: PATHETIC~*%percent#%percent~#!~*%percent^
#4590 [21:02] <stile1987> :p
#4591 [21:02] <Phenex> http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-computers-Intel-core-2-duo-E6850-2x3-0ghz-W0QQAdIdZ271947077
#4592 [21:02] <Phenex> would something like that work?
#4593 [21:03] <xales> that would, yes, but it's rather...worth 3 or 4 times as much as the selling price
#4594 [21:03] <xales> so watch for a scam
#4595 [21:03] <Phenex> hmph
#4596 [21:03] <xales> stile1987: so it hasn't worked since switching to beta?
#4597 [21:03] <Phenex> Its in my town
#4598 [21:04] <stile1987> i have not tried it since beta :P ive been hiding under a rock
#4599 [21:05] <stile1987> last time i had a working server would actually be around Jan 1st i think
#4600 [21:05] <xales> ah
#4601 [21:06] <xales> hmm
#4602 [21:06] <Phenex> would there be an easy way of telling if it was a scam? like checking the system etc
#4603 [21:06] <stile1987> ya
#4604 [21:06] <xales> Phenex: not any more than anything else
#4605 [21:06] <stile1987> actually boot it and check the stats through windows or the bios
#4606 [21:06] <xales> until after you buy it
#4607 [21:06] <stile1987> when you go to pick it up
#4608 [21:06] <xales> anyway, stile1987, try copying the server EXE file to a new directory on the desktop with nothing else in it
#4609 [21:07] <stile1987> thats a good idea and for the record last working version was Beta 1.2_01
#4610 [21:10] <stile1987> that got a Lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#4611 [21:10] <stile1987> on the server
#4612 [21:10] <stile1987> and on the client Connection reset
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#4614 [21:11] <Moddy> hi
#4615 [21:11] <stile1987> hi moddy
#4616 [21:11] <Moddy> can anyone help me?
#4617 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> With
#4618 [21:11] <mitpatterson> !ask
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#4620 [21:11] <Moddy> ive just bought minecraft
#4621 [21:12] <Moddy> i downloaded the beta 1.4
#4622 [21:12] <Moddy> now i wanted to connect to a multiplayer server
#4623 [21:12] <Moddy> but no server works
#4624 [21:12] <Moddy> ive tried about 30 different ipĀ“s
#4625 [21:12] <Moddy> most times it says bad login
#4626 [21:12] <Moddy> sometimes connection timed out
#4627 [21:12] <xales> What is your username?
#4628 [21:13] <Moddy> Moddry
#4629 [21:13] <mitpatterson> !paid Moddry
#4630 [21:13] <VoxelHead> !paid Moddry... !poddry
#4631 [21:13] <xales> Were you using a cracked/pirated/"free" version before you bought it?
#4632 [21:13] <Moddy> nope, ive heard of minecraft for the first time today
#4633 [21:13] <mitpatterson> Moddy, try connecting to 65.186.89.194
#4634 [21:15] <Moddy> that server works :)
#4635 [21:15] <Moddy> i think im in
#4636 [21:15] <mitpatterson> well that worked, what IP's have you been trying?
#4637 [21:15] <mitpatterson> are you sure the IP's you tried had a server on it/
#4638 [21:15] <Dark_Fox_> You aren't trying to connect to classic servers, are you?
#4639 [21:15] <xales> "Bad login" probably just means the server is having issues, then
#4640 [21:15] <xales> Dark_Fox_: that's "You need to login!"
#4641 [21:15] <Dark_Fox_> Ah
#4642 [21:15] <mitpatterson> xales, yah, Moddy was able to connect to my server just fine
#4643 [21:16] <GRIMREAPPER> if you want Moddy I can start up a server and u can try to connect
#4644 [21:16] <mitpatterson> GRIMREAPPER, Moddy was able to connect to mine
#4645 [21:16] <GRIMREAPPER> ok
#4646 [21:16] <Moddy> ive tried for example cube-network.com
#4647 [21:16] <Moddy> on there homepage it says the server is online
#4648 [21:16] <xales> Moddy: try 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
#4649 [21:17] <Moddy> yea that works too
#4650 [21:17] <mitpatterson> so it appears to be server issues then(the ones you tried)
#4651 [21:17] <xales> the servers you were connecting to are just not properly updated, I guess
#4652 [21:18] <mitpatterson> xales, it will say that the server is out of date if that was the case
#4653 [21:18] <mitpatterson> at least it did for me
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#4655 [21:18] <Moddy> ok thank you so far, i thought there may be something wrong with my internet connection
#4656 [21:18] <xales> mitpatterson: probably mod-related
#4657 [21:18] <xales> (aka Bukkit being more stupid)
#4658 [21:18] <Moddy> so is there a list with servers that are up to date?
#4659 [21:18] <GRIMREAPPER> they probably have mods so the mods might not be up to date yet
#4660 [21:19] <Moddy> i would like to join a community because im completely new and not sure if i can figure out this game on my own^^
#4661 [21:19] <xales> Moddy: not really, I can give you the general lists though, but for the first week, it's hard
#4662 [21:19] <xales> ??> Moddy smp/servers
#4663 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Moddy: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4664 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Moddy: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#4665 [21:20] <Moddy> ok thanks
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#4667 [21:23] <GRIMREAPPER> when you start up Minecraft what does this represent i know its something to do with ram but does it just limit it or something "-Xmx1024M -Xms512M "
#4668 [21:23] <mitpatterson> thats my understanding
#4669 [21:23] <xales> It specifies the heap size (approx. how much RAM it will use)
#4670 [21:23] <xales> the default is not enough
#4671 [21:24] <GRIMREAPPER> im running on 1gb lol on my laptop
#4672 [21:24] <GRIMREAPPER> i can host a server really well but not running the game lol
#4673 [21:24] <xales> the server would work great until you had 5 or 6 people, then it would have a shitfit, lol
#4674 [21:25] <GRIMREAPPER> i only have like 3 at max on it so not biggy
#4675 [21:26] <mitpatterson> speaking of which, i should stress stest my computer/internet sometime
#4676 [21:26] <mitpatterson> err server
#4677 [21:26] <GRIMREAPPER> TNT =D
#4678 [21:27] <GRIMREAPPER> get alot of people then tell everyone to start laying tnt down see what happens
#4679 [21:27] <mitpatterson> Thoatt|Work, was gunna do that last ngiht, until he prematurly denated it
#4680 [21:27] <GRIMREAPPER> haha
#4681 [21:28] <mitpatterson> i was thinking more like just see how many people i can handle before lag is an issue, a calc i found said 3-4
#4682 [21:28] <GRIMREAPPER> ill help test it real quick
#4683 [21:28] <TheNytangel> :o
#4684 [21:28] <VoxelHead> Sacrebleu!
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#4686 [21:28] <TheNytangel> i just figured something out
#4687 [21:28] <mitpatterson> WTF vox
#4688 [21:28] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead: shut up
#4689 [21:28] <VoxelHead> :(
#4690 [21:28] <mitpatterson> lol what TheNytangel
#4691 [21:28] <GRIMREAPPER> wat
#4692 [21:29] <TheNytangel> since im getting a new graphics card, i can play 2 games that i bought and couldnt play. BFBC2, and COD4
#4693 [21:29] <TheNytangel> and dont tell Voxel to shut up
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#4695 [21:29] <mitpatterson> so yah, if a couple people want to stress test it with me, IP is the one i'm logged into IRC from
#4696 [21:29] <TheNytangel> Voxel is nice :)
#4697 [21:29] <GRIMREAPPER> ewww both games are poop
#4698 [21:29] <TheNytangel> so?
#4699 [21:29] <GRIMREAPPER> CoD united offense get
#4700 [21:29] <TheNytangel> no
#4701 [21:29] <GRIMREAPPER> yes
#4702 [21:29] <TheNytangel> no
#4703 [21:29] <TheNytangel> you cant make me
#4704 [21:29] <GRIMREAPPER> yes best cod game ever
#4705 [21:30] <GRIMREAPPER> tanks n jeeps and MGs so nice
#4706 [21:30] <TheNytangel> im not going to waste money since i have a ton of games to play already
#4707 [21:30] <TheNytangel> tanks n jeeps are in BFBC2 also
#4708 [21:30] <GRIMREAPPER> $10 =D
#4709 [21:30] <GRIMREAPPER> but the game is sooo bad
#4710 [21:30] <TheNytangel> i dont care
#4711 [21:30] <GRIMREAPPER> lol
#4712 [21:30] <TheNytangel> thats what you think
#4713 [21:31] <TheNytangel> i have it for xbox also, and i like it
#4714 [21:31] <GRIMREAPPER> cool
#4715 [21:32] <GRIMREAPPER> i use to be into consols but i lost interest =/ when the 360 came out
#4716 [21:34] <mitpatterson> so. stress test my server? if i disconnect from IRC that means you killed my internets and to stop
#4717 [21:34] <AG_Scott> I can send 80 people to dit
#4718 [21:34] <AG_Scott> it*
#4719 [21:34] <mitpatterson> i'm thinking like 5
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#4721 [21:35] <Hubbert> Hello, everyone! I've got a really dumb question!
#4722 [21:35] <xales> Hi, go ahead and ask
#4723 [21:36] <Hubbert> I've got a real and legit Minecraft alpha code that a friend gave me.
#4724 [21:36] <TheNytangel> ..
#4725 [21:36] <Hubbert> However, I have no idea -where- to get Minecraft in its alpha form.
#4726 [21:36] <Hubbert> Wat do
#4727 [21:36] <TheNytangel> 1. learn how to spell
#4728 [21:36] <xales> An Alpha code doesn't get you a different game
#4729 [21:37] <xales> Both Alpha and beta get you the same "Minecraft"
#4730 [21:37] <Hubbert> Hence why I called this a dumb question.
#4731 [21:37] <xales> what the difference is, is what content you get in the future, once the game is released
#4732 [21:37] <Hubbert> I guess I should re-phrase the question.
#4733 [21:37] <Hubbert> How do I "cash in" this code?
#4734 [21:38] <mitpatterson> so anyone to stress test my server? i'm still alone
#4735 [21:38] <xales> ??> Hubbert giftcode
#4736 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Hubbert: (giftcode) To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#4737 [21:38] <Hubbert> OH
#4738 [21:38] <Hubbert> WELP, THAT WORKED.
#4739 [21:38] <TheNytangel> without the comman after .jsp
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#4741 [21:39] <Hubbert> Thanks, guys!
#4742 [21:39] <GRIMREAPPER> What is this?.....
#4743 [21:39] <GRIMREAPPER> Failed to open device (/dev/input/event10): Failed to open device /dev/input/event10 (13)
#4744 [21:40] <Hubbert> I know you're going to laugh anyways but I literally googled that question and got nothing useful.
#4745 [21:40] <Hubbert> Thanks, y'all
#4746 [21:40] <xales> GRIMREAPPER: If you can play normally, just ignore it
#4747 [21:40] <mitpatterson> so....... stress tests?/.......
#4748 [21:40] <GRIMREAPPER> yeah i cant =/ it crashes and errors like that pop up
#4749 [21:41] <xales> GRIMREAPPER: What distro?
#4750 [21:41] <GRIMREAPPER> gives me 11 errors like that each with differnt events...Ubuntu
#4751 [21:41] <xales> What version of Ubuntu?
#4752 [21:42] <mitpatterson> i'm getting lonley in here
#4753 [21:43] <GRIMREAPPER> how does one tell wich version. Its not new thats for sure
#4754 [21:43] <Phenex> Is there somewhere I could check the value of my sound card? Newegg doesnt have any for sale and doesnt list a price
#4755 [21:43] <Dark_Fox_> Phenex: eBay is a good bet
#4756 [21:43] <xales> GRIMREAPPER: Do you have more than one monitor?
#4757 [21:44] <GRIMREAPPER> 9.10 is the version
#4758 [21:44] <Phenex> I checked there and one was selling for 22 dollars, but I found another site selling it for 189.99
#4759 [21:44] <GRIMREAPPER> no just my laptop screen
#4760 [21:44] <xales> You should probably upgrade to 10.10
#4761 [21:44] <xales> that would probably fix it
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#4763 [21:44] <GRIMREAPPER> eeek i dont like osx10
#4764 [21:45] <Phenex> PacificGeek.com is selling the card for 429..
#4765 [21:45] <Phenex> so I really dont know who to trust on its value
#4766 [21:45] <xales> GRIMREAPPER: what?
#4767 [21:45] <sirtophat> I made a bed and slept in it, woke up, then later died, I respawned at the original spawn point, nowhere near the bed
#4768 [21:45] <xales> Ubuntu 10.10 has nothing to do with Mac OSX
#4769 [21:45] <Dark_Fox_> Phenex: Are the non-eBay sites selling it new or used
#4770 [21:45] <GRIMREAPPER> but it reminds me of it
#4771 [21:45] <Phenex> refurbrished
#4772 [21:45] <GRIMREAPPER> lol
#4773 [21:46] <xales> GRIMREAPPER: So change the settings?
#4774 [21:46] <Phenex> http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=855432
#4775 [21:46] <GRIMREAPPER> i might go back to Arch
#4776 [21:46] <stile1987> xales! you sir are a god damn genius!
#4777 [21:47] <stile1987> server is up and running and happy as a clam
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#4779 [21:47] <Dark_Fox_> Well there's no way I'd pay $500 for that junk
#4780 [21:47] <xales> stile1987: \o/
#4781 [21:47] <Phenex> lol
#4782 [21:47] <stile1987> indeed!
#4783 [21:47] <Phenex> Exactly
#4784 [21:47] <Dark_Fox_> Personally I'd say up to $200 new, $50 used
#4785 [21:47] <stile1987> gold star for xales!
#4786 [21:48] <Phenex> damn
#4787 [21:49] <Dark_Fox_> Something tells me PacificGeek.com is a rip off
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#4789 [21:50] <TheBix> hey is anyone here good with redstone?
#4790 [21:51] <sirtophat> the bed didn't set the spawn point
#4791 [21:51] <sirtophat> did I do something wrong
#4792 [21:51] <xales> sirtophat: Does it say 1.4 in the top left?
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#4794 [21:52] <sirtophat> yes
#4795 [21:52] <xales> Then yes, you did
#4796 [21:52] <sirtophat> do I have to get 1.3 now
#4797 [21:53] <GLaDOS> no
#4798 [21:53] <sirtophat> then what
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#4800 [21:53] <TheBix> apparently its just a commonglitch
#4801 [21:53] <TheBix> due to notch being a sped
#4802 [21:53] <GLaDOS> if anything, i'd suggest, unless you have mods, forcing the launcher to update
#4803 [21:53] <sirtophat> good job ruining the game, notch
#4804 [21:53] <sirtophat> now I don't even want to play it anymore
#4805 [21:53] <TheBix> so true.
#4806 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> TheBix - With redstone?
#4807 [21:53] <sirtophat> I'll never find that house again
#4808 [21:54] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: ya
#4809 [21:54] <mitpatterson> how do you "force" it to update?
#4810 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, bug's been there since 1.3
#4811 [21:54] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: wait wat?
#4812 [21:54] <VoxelHead> izzd
#4813 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Yup
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#4815 [21:54] <GRIMREAPPER> something just died in my room
#4816 [21:54] <xolotl> Notch is a... "sped?"
#4817 [21:55] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: I thought you were asking about my redstone question, the bug I was talking about was the bed not setting spawn
#4818 [21:55] <GRIMREAPPER> he does speed?
#4819 [21:55] <sirtophat> maybe sped means retard
#4820 [21:55] <TheBix> xolotl: sped is like a nicer way of putting retard :\
#4821 [21:55] <TheBix> ofc i'm not serious.
#4822 [21:55] <xolotl> TheBix: You don't want to play Minecraft anymore because beds don't reset spawn points?
#4823 [21:55] <aetherian> level.dat is the seed, right?
#4824 [21:55] <mitpatterson> so....how do you force the update?
#4825 [21:55] <VoxelHead> we get signal
#4826 [21:56] <TheBix> xolotl: no. other reasons, also involving notch being a sped.
#4827 [21:56] <xolotl> aetherian: level.dat contains the seed, yes. You can use NBTedit to find an existing seed.
#4828 [21:56] <aetherian> mmk
#4829 [21:56] <TheBix> so yeah anyone good with redstone here.
#4830 [21:56] <TheBix> ?
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#4832 [21:56] <xolotl> aetherian: level.dat also contains (in singleplayer, at least) your current position and inventory, and other smallish bits of info
#4833 [21:56] <TheBix> I need to make a clearable flip flop. I've asked this heaps before but no one knows :\
#4834 [21:57] <Mine_Man97> I need help with my account.
#4835 [21:57] <mitpatterson> Mine_Man97, We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues.
#4836 [21:57] <Mine_Man97> oh :(
#4837 [21:57] <aetherian> guys, I need a bit of help, unsurprising as that is
#4838 [21:58] <GRIMREAPPER> anyone here have a thinkpad T60p?
#4839 [21:58] <aetherian> what exactly does one put into the seed thing for creating a new map from a seed
#4840 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> TheBix - What kind of flip flop?
#4841 [21:58] <mitpatterson> it can be left blank if you want
#4842 [21:58] <TheBix> a toggle flip flop
#4843 [21:58] <TheBix> it has to have a clear input to clear its value.
#4844 [21:58] <sirtophat> I'm just going to use a level editor to find my house and trace blocks to it from spawn
#4845 [21:58] <TheBix> been struggling for a while now with it :\
#4846 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> That's usually how a flip flop works..
#4847 [21:58] <xolotl> aetherian: The seed textbox will accept any input; if it's entirely numeric then it'll just use that numeric value for the seed
#4848 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Unless I'm totally misunderstanding you
#4849 [21:59] <xolotl> aetherian: If it includes something other than numbers, it'll "hash" the text value to come up with a number and use that
#4850 [21:59] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: go look at the wiki none of the toggle flip flop designs have a clear input.
#4851 [21:59] <sirtophat> I put in some random sentence for a seed and got an ice world
#4852 [21:59] <xolotl> aetherian: If you leave it blank, Minecraft will just pick a seed at random (which used to be the only behavior)
#4853 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> reset = clear\
#4854 [21:59] <TheBix> just a CLK input.
#4855 [21:59] <GRIMREAPPER> i noticed i cant login while in linux
#4856 [21:59] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: wait what?
#4857 [21:59] <VoxelHead> Nothing
#4858 [21:59] * VoxelHead looks shifty.
#4858 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> In circuit design, the S = signal, which is what gives the flip flop the signal to switch to the second state
#4859 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> The R is the reset signal
#4860 [22:00] <xolotl> aetherian: So anyway, shen you say "creating a new map from a seed" it makes me think that you've been given a seed from someone and want to replicate the world. In which case you'd just plug that value in.
#4861 [22:00] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: ya there is no R input for any of the toggle flip flop designs i've seen
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#4863 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> ...
#4864 [22:01] <aetherian> xolotl: as in resetting a map
#4865 [22:01] <xolotl> aetherian: What do you mean?
#4866 [22:01] <xolotl> aetherian: Like, you have the seed from your previous world and want to re-use it?
#4867 [22:01] <aetherian> nevermind .-.
#4868 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> The basic SR latches for NOR and NAND have those
#4869 [22:01] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: yeah but I want a T flip flop. not a latch.
#4870 [22:02] <sirtophat> augh
#4871 [22:03] <sirtophat> apparently I need to click "leave bed" to set spawn
#4872 [22:03] <sirtophat> arbitrary unexplained not even slightly hinted at nonsense
#4873 [22:03] <sirtophat> typical of terrible game design
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#4876 [22:03] <brice> Hi here ! I have a question about minecraft, how to use the command line to join a server ? i' have many server, and I will be happy to have a shortut to join directly them ....
#4877 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#4879 [22:04] <TheBix> I need a T flip flop that has a toggle input, a clear (or reset or whatever you wanna call it) input and outputs one value (Q)
#4880 [22:04] <Phenex> Is there something that can copied and pasted into an email, that would tell me computer specs
#4881 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> brice - Look at..
#4882 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/3427294253/welcome-to-the-new-minecraft-launcher
#4883 [22:04] <Phenex> I am looking at one online and it's scary cheap and I want to confirm the computer has the parts he says it has
#4884 [22:05] <TheBix> and the reset input needs to be level triggered.
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#4886 [22:05] <PyroPeter> I just tried minecraft classic in firefox on a 64-bit linux with offical jre. the music stuttered, the controls went mad and the whole browser frooze. how good are the chances this issues got fixed in the non-classic minecraft?
#4887 [22:05] <TheBix> GreyVulpine: so you don't know either?
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#4889 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Maybe.
#4890 [22:06] <xolotl> PyroPeter: Classic an Beta share very little (if any) code anymore, and running on your comp as a client is pretty different than running inside a browser
#4891 [22:06] <xales> PyroPeter: What are your computer specs?
#4892 [22:06] <xolotl> PyroPeter: FWIW, there are certainly a lot of people on 64-bit linux running Minecraft Beta without problems
#4893 [22:07] <BHXSpecter> according to 1.4 update the beds when slept in become the spawn point....I have slept in mine numerous times, but when I just died due to lava it sent me back to the beginning spawn when I first created the world
#4894 [22:07] <TheBix> I would assume running inside a browser would be very similar to "running on your comp"
#4895 [22:07] <TheBix> BHXSpecter: apparently you need to press leave bed
#4896 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> TheBix - Sec.. A t flip flop with a reset signal.. umm
#4897 [22:07] <xolotl> TheBix: Not from a graphics and input standpoint; it's got a whole different container to have to live in
#4898 [22:07] <TheBix> according to a guy who was just here.
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#4900 [22:08] <TheBix> xolotl: i'm almost entirely sure thats all just abstracted by windows
#4901 [22:08] <Rigi> I need some advice :T
#4902 [22:08] <xolotl> TheBix: He's not on Windows, he's on Linux
#4903 [22:08] <TheBix> blarg
#4904 [22:08] <xales> Rigi: With?
#4905 [22:08] <TheBix> by "the OS"
#4906 [22:09] <xolotl> TheBix: Where things have historically been a little more dicey with regard to browser plugins having proper access to 3D, etc
#4907 [22:09] <TheBix> xolotl: its not like the graphics card knows where its rending to, its just rendering to memory.
#4908 [22:09] <xolotl> TheBix: Video drivers differ a LOT in Linuxland
#4909 [22:09] <Rigi> So, I kind of want some plugins for my server, but the only kind that I can locate that would work with 1.4 is with Bukkit, and I'm just confused.
#4910 [22:09] <Rigi> :U
#4911 [22:09] <xales> If you want help with Bukkit, #bukkit is the place for that
#4912 [22:09] <Rigi> I want help with not having to use bukkit.
#4913 [22:09] <TheBix> xolotl: i can understand it running in the browser a bit shittier because everything has to kinda "proxy" through the browser.
#4914 [22:09] <Coll> is it normal for a uh
#4915 [22:10] <xales> Rigi: If there are no other mods that support 1.4, we can't do anything about that
#4916 [22:10] <Coll> for a old graphics card to spam text on the screen
#4917 [22:10] <TheBix> so yeah I would expect it to run better just in a normal JVM I guess.
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#4919 [22:10] <PyroPeter> xales: about 6Ghz in two cores and 2 GiB of ram, the browser freeze seemed to be caused by swaping. but I suspect the control bugs and the sound issues were caused by the crappy java runtime environment, it causes errors all the time
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#4921 [22:10] <xales> PyroPeter: CPU speed is not additive, so unless your CPU was actually 6GHz (it isn't) then that's incorrect
#4922 [22:11] <Dark_Fox_> PyroPeter: You can't add core speedds together
#4923 [22:11] <xales> I assume it's around 3GHz, then?
#4924 [22:11] <PyroPeter> xolotl: I am happy to hear that
#4925 [22:11] <xales> (if it's under 2.6, Minecraft might be funny)
#4926 [22:11] <PyroPeter> right. but cpu wasn't the bottleneck anyway
#4927 [22:11] <xales> but yeah, swapping will do that to the JVM
#4928 [22:11] <Narthax> in windows, where can I find a complete list of computer specs?
#4929 [22:12] <Narthax> xp
#4930 [22:12] <PyroPeter> Narthax: Win+pause
#4931 [22:12] <Narthax> Is this copy and paste-able?
#4932 [22:12] <VoxelHead> mmm bhxspecter
#4933 [22:12] <Narthax> I need someone to email the computer specs
#4934 [22:12] <xales> ??> Narthax win/dxdiag
#4935 [22:12] <VoxelHead> Narthax: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4936 [22:12] <VoxelHead> Narthax: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4937 [22:12] <xales> send them that
#4938 [22:13] <Narthax> okay thanks
#4939 [22:13] <brice> GreyVulpine: Is there a way to bypass the name and passwork in command line ? (i mean use the default name and password, or ask it at the start) and use only the command about the IP .....
#4940 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> brice - I.. don't know
#4941 [22:13] <brice> >_<
#4942 [22:14] <Coll> uh
#4943 [22:14] <Coll> Hello?
#4944 [22:14] <xales> Coll: ?
#4945 [22:14] <Coll> I made a map with ZOMG map thing and it spewed my level into a .mclevel
#4946 [22:14] <Coll> what do I do from there?
#4947 [22:14] <TheBix> I'm back.
#4948 [22:14] <Narthax> Perfect, now I dont need to go physically see the computer to see if its a scam
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#4950 [22:15] <TheBix> so guys.
#4951 [22:15] <TheBobber> are wolves & cookies the only new things?
#4952 [22:16] <TheBix> anyone got a design for a clearable t flip flop?
#4953 [22:16] <TheBix> if not at least a digital circuit simulator :P
#4954 [22:16] <xales> TheBobber: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history#Beta
#4955 [22:16] <Coll> anyone?
#4956 [22:16] <xales> Coll: I have no idea what you are even talking about, sorry
#4957 [22:16] <Coll> ><
#4958 [22:17] <xolotl> Coll: please don't say stuff like "anyone?" and then "><" when pepole don't know; makes people less inclined to help
#4959 [22:17] <xolotl> Coll: Anyway, MCEdit should be able to open an .mclevel, and then save it out in a more recent format
#4960 [22:17] <TheBix> oh wait
#4961 [22:17] <TheBix> LOGISM!
#4962 [22:17] <TheBix> its free.
#4963 [22:17] <Coll> Thank you xol
#4964 [22:18] <TheBobber> heh... I like the wolf bug
#4965 [22:19] <Coll> also with MCEdit is it possible to turn some chunks into schematics?
#4966 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4967 [22:19] <Coll> sweet
#4968 [22:19] <VoxelHead> Sweeeeet.
#4969 [22:19] <Coll> ok all I needed thanks
#4970 [22:19] <Coll> oh god why is Voxel back
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#4972 [22:20] <Coll> anyways again thanks
#4973 [22:20] <Coll> got to relog
#4974 [22:21] <|_ocke> how can i change the spawn point on my server or make it possible to make changes closer to the spawn point?
#4975 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> With a map editor, or a mod
#4976 [22:22] <xales> Or a bed
#4977 [22:22] <xales> well, that changes your spawn point
#4978 [22:22] <|_ocke> i'm using a custom map someone asked me to run
#4979 [22:23] <|_ocke> i don't know anything about map editors or mods
#4980 [22:24] <xales> Map editor = program that edits the map
#4981 [22:24] <xales> Mod = modification to the server, such as Bukkit
#4982 [22:24] <|_ocke> well i know that :P
#4983 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#4984 [22:24] <|_ocke> i mean i don't know anything about any of them that are out there
#4985 [22:24] <TheBobber> now you know everything you need too :-)
#4986 [22:24] <VoxelHead> :o)
#4987 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Alright, the simple solution is this.
#4988 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Use MCedit, download is here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#4989 [22:25] <|_ocke> i was hoping i could like set a spawn location in the server.properties file or something
#4990 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Once you install it, launch it, if there's an option to update it in the upper left corner, do so
#4991 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> If there isn't, open up the world map that you got.
#4992 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> You can use right click and wasd to look around.
#4993 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> The button on the bottom panel.. on the far right, is what sets the spawn point
#4994 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl-s to save it once you choose to move it somewhere
#4995 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Ctrl-f4 to close mcedit
#4996 [22:27] <|_ocke> that sounds like too much work, i'm just gonna give them a bed
#4997 [22:27] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#4997 [22:27] <TheBobber> anyways
#4998 [22:28] <TheBobber> minecraft needs an item shop & not the one from yesterday... I like the idea though
#4999 [22:29] <TheBobber> more like the shops in zelda games... craft money from bamboo & like 5 dyes & water...
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#5001 [22:32] <miner94er> Will the issue with Realtek NICs be fixed some day?
#5002 [22:32] <xales> There is no way to know. Maybe?
#5003 [22:33] <miner94er> Hmm. Is it Realtek in general, or do certain models work fine?
#5004 [22:34] <miner94er> this is related to buying a new motherboard
#5005 [22:34] <xales> Certain models are fine
#5006 [22:34] <xales> one or two are bad
#5007 [22:34] <xales> Atheros has many more problems
#5008 [22:35] <VoxelHead> bye jmnx12
#5009 [22:35] <miner94er> Is there a list I can compare a specific one to?
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#5011 [22:35] <xales> Not really, we aren't even sure which ones do it
#5012 [22:36] <miner94er> Ah. Thanks for the help anyway.
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#5014 [22:40] <TheBobber> well thanks
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#5016 [22:54] * Kealper yawns
#5016 [22:54] * xales Kealpers
#5016 [22:54] <xales> Enjoying the 1.4 flood?
#5017 [22:54] <Kealper> well..i feel less angry at everything after that nap
#5018 [22:54] <xales> I took the day off
#5019 [22:54] <xales> :3
#5020 [22:54] <Kealper> i did too
#5021 [22:54] <xales> :|
#5022 [22:54] <xales> I did the last one all by myself
#5023 [22:54] <Kealper> i straight up was like...screw it at around 4-ish
#5024 [22:54] <xales> you should have been here
#5025 [22:54] <xales> :P
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#5028 [22:55] <miner94er> I was just here but forgot to ask, do wifi adapters work with Minecraft fine or do they have problems too?
#5029 [22:56] <Kealper> most work
#5030 [22:56] <Kealper> although in my opinion, it's better to play with a wired connection
#5031 [22:56] <miner94er> and its cheaper than getting an Intel NIC card
#5032 [22:56] <miner94er> ah
#5033 [22:56] <Kealper> but, that;s just my opinion lol
#5034 [22:57] <miner94er> are there any differences if I'm hosting and playing on the same computer? (lan)
#5035 [22:58] <Kealper> if you've got a good computer, it should work decently fine
#5036 [22:58] <miner94er> okay, thanks
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#5041 [23:07] <Uristthegreat> I can't connect to this one server anymore. I'm whitelisted and everything but as soon as I get on, it won't load all the way.
#5042 [23:07] <mib_ztl2gw> Hi there I'm having an issue with m game when i try and start it as soon as it finishes loading my computer shuts down is there any tihngi can do to fix this?
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#5045 [23:09] <xales> ??> mib_ztl2gw win/dxdiag
#5046 [23:09] <VoxelHead> mib_ztl2gw: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#5047 [23:09] <VoxelHead> mib_ztl2gw: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#5048 [23:09] <xales> Uristthegreat: It's probably an issue with the server, you should talk to an admin on the server
#5049 [23:10] <Uristthegreat> I've been on the server before, I got banned from it and then unbanned.
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#5055 [23:20] <AlexanderDrake> I'm in need of a little help, for some odd reason I cant connect to minecraft.net
#5056 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Via the game client, or the website
#5057 [23:21] <AlexanderDrake> Game client
#5058 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before? Is this your first time?
#5059 [23:21] <AlexanderDrake> its worked before
#5060 [23:22] <AlexanderDrake> in fact earlier today
#5061 [23:22] <xales> Check the date and time on your computer. Make sure it is correct
#5062 [23:22] <AlexanderDrake> and it just went through like nothing happened
#5063 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we forgot to flip a switch in the back room.
#5064 [23:22] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#5065 [23:22] <AlexanderDrake> I guess so
#5066 [23:23] <Jackson413> !isup
#5067 [23:23] <Jackson413> !is up
#5068 [23:23] <Jackson413> !minecraftisup
#5069 [23:23] <AlexanderDrake> back to work on the hydroponics sector for me...
#5070 [23:23] <Jackson413> how do i check if minecraft.net is up?
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#5072 [23:24] <AlexanderDrake> http://isminecraftdown.net/
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#5074 [23:24] <PigmonkeY> Yes, i checked that already.
#5075 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> !sidown
#5076 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#5077 [23:24] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#5078 [23:24] <Coll> !check 76.18.92.56
#5079 [23:24] <Coll> hmm odd
#5080 [23:24] <Jackson413> you fucking serious?
#5081 [23:24] <Coll> I cant connect via local ip
#5082 [23:24] <PigmonkeY> i just purchased minecraft and i can't get in through the client, or browser, and i can't play offline because it's "not downloaded"
#5083 [23:25] <Jackson413> new or old client?
#5084 [23:25] <PigmonkeY> =/
#5085 [23:25] <Jackson413> what is ur minecraft acc
#5086 [23:25] <PigmonkeY> rewtuser
#5087 [23:25] <Coll> opps my bad
#5088 [23:25] <xales> PigmonkeY: Play in the browser once, then you can play using the download client
#5089 [23:25] <Coll> I was using wrong Ip
#5090 [23:25] <Coll> \ip
#5091 [23:25] <PigmonkeY> i can't play in the browser, it refuses to load.
#5092 [23:25] <Jackson413> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
#5093 [23:25] <Jackson413> you need to download the client
#5094 [23:26] <xales> What browser are you using?
#5095 [23:26] <Jackson413> the browser gets the application data
#5096 [23:26] <PigmonkeY> chrome.
#5097 [23:26] <Jackson413> let xales take care of you he's smarter <3
#5098 [23:26] <xales> When you say "refuses to load", what exactly does it do?
#5099 [23:26] <PigmonkeY> i downloaded the client, wheni try to log in, it says it can't connect.
#5100 [23:26] <PigmonkeY> to minecraft.net, that is
#5101 [23:26] <xales> It was down for a minute or two, just try again
#5102 [23:26] <PigmonkeY> when i try to go through the browser, it's just a big blank screen.
#5103 [23:27] <PigmonkeY> magic.
#5104 [23:27] <PigmonkeY> wtf.
#5105 [23:27] <Jackson413> ?
#5106 [23:27] <PigmonkeY> it's like they watched me complain in real time
#5107 [23:27] <PigmonkeY> and fixed it.
#5108 [23:27] <PigmonkeY> great success.
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#5112 [23:38] <jmnx12> i am having an issue with my server, it isnt showing me a public/external url anywhere can anyone help?
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#5114 [23:39] <xales> jmnx12: is it a classic server?
#5115 [23:39] <jmnx12> it is the beta version
#5116 [23:39] <jmnx12> says 1.4 when starting up
#5117 [23:40] <xales> Beta doesn't use the external URL mechanism that Classic did
#5118 [23:40] <xales> You find your IP at a website like http://whatismyip.com/
#5119 [23:40] <jmnx12> i know the ip
#5120 [23:40] <xales> It will not work unless you port forward, or aren't behind a router (practically everyone is these days)
#5121 [23:41] <jmnx12> i am trying to get it listed on the minecraft.net site, its connectable people are on it now from outside of my network
#5122 [23:41] <xales> The server list on minecraft.net is only Classic servers
#5123 [23:41] <jmnx12> Ah!
#5124 [23:41] <VoxelHead> \o/ ah
#5125 [23:42] <jmnx12> well then! is there any sort of list for beta?
#5126 [23:42] <xales> ??> jmnx12 smp/servers
#5127 [23:42] <VoxelHead> jmnx12: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#5128 [23:42] <VoxelHead> jmnx12: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#5129 [23:43] <jmnx12> thanks
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#5133 [23:50] <VoxelHead> cya
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#5135 [23:59] <aetherian> oh god
#5136 [23:59] <xales> dog ho
#5137 [23:59] <xales> :D
#5138 [23:59] <VoxelHead> =D
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