#MinecraftHelp > 2011-04-03
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#2 [00:02] <aetherian> .-.
#3 [00:03] <AG_Scott> ._.
#4 [00:03] <aetherian> @_@_@_@_@_@
#5 [00:04] <aetherian> you again :o
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#7 [00:04] * VoxelHead kicked Vin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#8 [00:04] <aetherian> who's vin?
#9 [00:04] <xales> Vinlaell
#10 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> I hate no idea
#11 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Who's he
#12 [00:04] <aetherian> I hate no ideas too
#13 [00:04] <xales> One of the "lol delete system32" people, IIRC
#14 [00:05] <aetherian> doesn't work on linux D:
#15 [00:05] * Mieulium [Mieulium@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#16 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> How long is the ban?
#17 [00:05] <TheNytangel> my sister has a virus
#18 [00:05] <xales> I think it was an opban that he cleared out when the banlist got full
#19 [00:05] <xales> so it has to be unset
#20 [00:05] <TheNytangel> i tried safe mode, the virus still came on
#21 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#22 [00:06] <Mieulium> how do you talk in the official minecraft channel?
#23 [00:07] <aetherian> by PRIVMSGing #minecraft, (after registering)
#24 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register email password
#25 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Then follow the email directions
#26 [00:07] <aetherian> I can never remember that, I was just looking at it >.>
#27 [00:07] <xales> GreyVulpine, aetherian: use ?? irc
#28 [00:07] <TheNytangel> why do people make viruses
#29 [00:07] <aetherian> xales: oh.
#30 [00:07] <xales> TheNytangel: Why do people commit crimes
#31 [00:08] <aetherian> TheNytangel: for shits and giggles
#32 [00:08] <xales> same thing
#33 [00:08] <xales> |:
#34 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> It's faster for me to remember and type that register command
#35 [00:08] * Liraxus [Liraxus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#36 [00:08] <Mieulium> i think nickserv is down
#37 [00:08] <Liraxus> hey
#38 [00:09] <Liraxus> I need a good seed to start with
#39 [00:09] <TheNytangel> i found out how to remove it, but she probly wont let me on her computer now
#40 [00:09] <aetherian> no I don't think so
#41 [00:09] <Liraxus> I perferr interesting terrain, not just a bunch of hills, i want it to be amazing
#42 [00:09] <TheNytangel> glacier
#43 [00:09] <aetherian> I have a good seed...
#44 [00:09] <xales> ??> Mieulium irc
#45 [00:09] <VoxelHead> Mieulium: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#46 [00:09] <VoxelHead> Mieulium: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#47 [00:09] <aetherian> just not sure which part of the save is the seed :|
#48 [00:09] <xales> aetherian: open level.dat with NBTEdit
#49 [00:09] <aetherian> I dun
#50 [00:09] <Liraxus> caps for G?
#51 [00:10] <aetherian> *dun't hov NBT
#52 [00:10] <xales> aetherian: so download nbtedit?
#53 [00:10] <aetherian> there's a linux version, correct?
#54 [00:10] <Mieulium> VoxelHead, I dont seem to get any response
#55 [00:11] * aetherian giggles
#55 [00:11] <VoxelHead> mmm Diablothein
#56 [00:11] <Liraxus> Ok,\
#57 [00:11] <aetherian> hang on liraxus
#58 [00:11] <Liraxus> you don't know what level of amazing i want
#59 [00:11] <aetherian> Liraxus: if you get too greedy you get nothing
#60 [00:11] <xales> Mieulium: VoxelHead is a bot
#61 [00:12] <xales> and you have to look in the "status" window
#62 [00:12] <aetherian> mine has natural floating islands with punkins
#63 [00:12] <aetherian> right near the spawn
#64 [00:12] <aetherian> should I just run NBT through wine?
#65 [00:12] <aetherian> nbtdit
#66 [00:12] <aetherian> :D
#67 [00:12] <xales> there are linux nbtedit-ors
#68 [00:12] <Mieulium> ok thanks
#69 [00:12] <VoxelHead> :o)
#70 [00:12] <xales> look in the wiki
#71 [00:12] <Mieulium> it works now
#72 [00:13] <aetherian> .-. xales
#73 [00:13] <Liraxus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk4IzhAPdtM
#74 [00:13] <Liraxus> I WANT THIS KIND OF EPIC
#75 [00:13] <aetherian> Liraxus: I just said, don't be a greedy jerk
#76 [00:14] <aetherian> >:
#77 [00:14] <xales> :<
#78 [00:14] <aetherian> ><
#79 [00:14] <aetherian> ::
#80 [00:14] <aetherian> >:<
#81 [00:15] <aetherian> <3 xfce
#82 [00:15] <xales> <3 your faec
#83 [00:15] <xales> JUST KIDDING
#84 [00:15] <xales> :|
#85 [00:15] <aetherian> .-.-.-.-.-.-.
#86 [00:16] <aetherian> VoxelHead, kill xales
#87 [00:16] * VoxelHead uses the power of greyskull on xales
#87 [00:16] <Liraxus> I was just giving you a suggestion
#88 [00:16] <Liraxus> As long as its new and interesting, i am willing to try it.
#89 [00:17] <aetherian> make your own seed
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#91 [00:17] <aetherian> gotta download this thing... ugh...
#92 [00:17] <aetherian> but xales, what do I do once I get NBTEdit to work
#93 [00:18] <xales> aetherian: just use one of the many nbteditors that works on Linux
#94 [00:18] <aetherian> have a link or shall I search more
#95 [00:18] <xales> then open it and look at the value of 'seed' in the root tree
#96 [00:18] <xales> derp
#97 [00:18] * kirbywarp [kirbywarp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#98 [00:19] <kirbywarp> Hello all. I'm sure you've gotten a ton of these, but has anybody gotten their beds to set a spawn point?
#99 [00:19] <xales> kirbywarp: you have to click "leave bed" aparrantly
#100 [00:19] <xales> aetherian: http://www.electricmonk.nl/Programmings/MCPlayerEdit
#101 [00:19] <kirbywarp> in single player
#102 [00:19] <aetherian> :D
#103 [00:19] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#104 [00:21] <kirbywarp> sooo... is that a no then?
#105 [00:21] <aetherian> so the seed is just a large number, then.
#106 [00:21] <aetherian> hmm.
#107 [00:22] <xales> 00:19:05 <@xales> kirbywarp: you have to click "leave bed" aparrantly
#108 [00:22] <aetherian> 4299888903747187655 Liraxus
#109 [00:23] <kirbywarp> xales: I meant getting them to work in single player, no "leave bed" button sadly...
#110 [00:23] <xales> kirbywarp: oh. I have no idea, then
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#112 [00:26] <aetherian> #*)&%Q#&Q*()#%^
#113 [00:26] <VoxelHead> #aetherian$#£@!$$%@~aetherian#!
#114 [00:26] <aetherian> .-.
#115 [00:26] <aetherian> damn that liraxus
#116 [00:26] <Lolz_doggie123> How do you fix a mod problem as in i cant launch my freggin minecraft anymore
#117 [00:26] <aetherian> Lolz_doggie123: you have to remove the mod until it is updated
#118 [00:27] <Lolz_doggie123> I did its still not launching
#119 [00:27] <VoxelHead> i like them =]
#120 [00:27] <Lolz_doggie123> :(
#121 [00:29] <Lolz_doggie123> STILL NOT LOADING
#122 [00:31] <aetherian> ...
#123 [00:31] <aetherian> anyway
#124 [00:35] <aetherian> so, 'sup, guys
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#129 [00:56] <aetherian> tuuueeesdaay aaafternooooon
#130 [01:03] <lyude> Friday
#131 [01:03] * lyude troll face
#131 [01:05] * aetherian slaps lyude
#131 [01:05] <aetherian> it's a song.
#132 [01:05] * lyude is sad :c
#132 [01:05] <aetherian> a good one, in fact
#133 [01:05] <lyude> what
#134 [01:06] <aetherian> Tuesday Afternoon is the name of a song that I was listening to
#135 [01:06] <lyude> oh
#136 [01:06] <lyude> oh
#137 [01:06] <lyude> *ok
#138 [01:07] <aetherian> oh oh ok, is that some kind of lame rap or something?
#139 [01:07] * aetherian trollface
#139 [01:09] <Mieulium> .................
#140 [01:10] <lyude> Adding more periods makes you more importantr
#141 [01:15] <Dark_Fox_> Hrm.. Minecraft people models need a tail;
#142 [01:16] <kirbywarp> .... I made a branch mine, and when I came back from the first branch there were slime balls on the floor..
#143 [01:16] <kirbywarp> How da heck did they die?
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#145 [01:18] <kirbywarp> also, wolves look absolutely rediculous coming down stairs. :D
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#147 [01:25] <aetherian> ha!
#148 [01:25] <VoxelHead> wheeeee ha
#149 [01:25] <aetherian> I finished my college thing where I needed to make a stupid .ppt
#150 [01:25] <aetherian> and I did it without microsoft >:D
#151 [01:27] <aetherian> although it's a bit buggy saving in .ppt
#152 [01:34] <Dark_Fox_> aetherian: You're probably going to get graded down for not using MSOffice
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#154 [01:35] <aetherian> Dark_Fox_: probably
#155 [01:35] <aetherian> but libreoffice for the win >:D
#156 [01:36] <Dark_Fox_> I'm still on an old version of OOo before Oracle bought SUN
#157 [01:36] <aetherian> OOo = openoffice?
#158 [01:37] <kirbywarp> I'm not sure what purpose this would serve, but they should make wolves point.
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#161 [01:38] <Dark_Fox_> aetherian: Yeah
#162 [01:38] <Dark_Fox_> kirbywarp: They could point to Diamond. That'd be pretty cool
#163 [01:38] <aetherian> not overpowered either
#164 [01:38] <kirbywarp> yeah, not at all. :P
#165 [01:39] <kirbywarp> However, if a mob makes a noise, like zombie moans, perhaps the wolf could point to the noise with some
#166 [01:39] <kirbywarp> probability
#167 [01:39] <kirbywarp> I think it would be adorable...
#168 [01:39] <aetherian> lmao
#169 [01:39] <aetherian> pastebin is so awesome
#170 [01:40] <aetherian> it has syntax hilighting for LOL CODE
#171 [01:41] * Do_Da_CHEEKS [Do_Da_CHEEKS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#172 [01:45] <aetherian> I don't get LOL CODE, it says it's... whatever, version 1.2 or 1.3, yet there's no real way to compile for it, and just a couple of half baked community made interpreters
#173 [01:45] <aetherian> what truly makes a language, that is
#174 [01:46] <xales> you can compile it just fine
#175 [01:46] <xales> and a language doesn't need a compiler to be a language, lol
#176 [01:48] <aetherian> I know that
#177 [01:48] <aetherian> it's just useful
#178 [01:49] <aetherian> besides
#179 [01:49] <aetherian> everyone knows the best programming language for beginners, apart from asm, is Brainfu-
#180 [01:49] <aetherian> boom
#181 [01:49] <VoxelHead> Booooooom.
#182 [01:51] <aetherian> oh god, that language looks easy :|
#183 [01:54] <xolotl> But does it have Malbolge highlighting
#184 [01:54] <aetherian> dunno
#185 [01:55] <aetherian> heh, someone actually made a text adventure in BF
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#187 [01:56] <aetherian> I dun' geddit
#188 [01:56] * Wug [Wug@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#189 [02:02] * aetherian just found GoL in bf
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#190 [02:11] <hufflpuff> r
#191 [02:11] <kirbywarp> well said.
#192 [02:11] <aetherian> ay
#193 [02:12] <kirbywarp> the worst thing about this whole bed-spawning thing is that every time I wake up, I get placed in the same spot.
#194 [02:12] <kirbywarp> The game is picking out a location, the same each time... It just isn't becoming spawn.
#195 [02:12] <kirbywarp> Its maddening..
#196 [02:16] <aetherian> eh what bug izzit now
#197 [02:18] <kirbywarp> beds not working as spawn points in ssp?
#198 [02:19] <aetherian> oh
#199 [02:19] <aetherian> I don't really use beds
#200 [02:19] <aetherian> so much to do in the night time
#201 [02:19] <kirbywarp> depends on what I'm doing, myself. I usually have one project in mind, so beds are nice when that project is outside
#202 [02:21] <kirbywarp> I just wanna have the option of exploring more of the world, and not spawning a three day's journey away when I die...
#203 [02:23] <Wug> greyvulpine are you there
#204 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#205 [02:23] <Wug> kk
#206 [02:23] <Wug> can you add commands to aubot?
#207 [02:23] <VoxelHead> Fuck your riddles, you gigantic "mystic" arsehole!
#208 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> What do you need to add?
#209 [02:24] <Wug> I was thinking !meta
#210 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> To do..
#211 [02:24] <Wug> which should have instructions to restore metadata
#212 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> restore metadata to...?
#213 [02:24] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#214 [02:24] <Wug> since corrupted metadata is pretty much the single most common cause of issues with maps
#215 [02:24] <Wug> level.dat
#216 [02:24] <Wug> to level.dat_old
#217 [02:25] <VoxelHead> Heya.
#218 [02:25] <Wug> you know, the 'map no longer appears in list' issue
#219 [02:25] <Wug> shove it, vox
#220 [02:25] <kirbywarp> My biggest problem on crashes is that both level.dat and level.dat_old are empty...
#221 [02:25] <Wug> that happens way too often
#222 [02:26] <kirbywarp> is that what you're talking about?
#223 [02:26] <Wug> sort of, yes
#224 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Let's se..
#225 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? lostworld
#226 [02:26] <VoxelHead> lostworld: If a power failure or other event has caused your world to no longer appear in the list, try loading your world in a map editor such as MCEdit, and resaving it. That may correct the corruption and allow you to resume use of your saved world.
#227 [02:26] <VoxelHead> bye coll
#228 [02:26] <kirbywarp> is it possible to store temporary values in both .dats so they aren't empty?
#229 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> I think that's the closest we have
#230 [02:26] <Wug> !meta should also have instructions on how to back up metadata
#231 [02:26] <Wug> kirby, if you back it up first, yes. you can't recover it once it's lost though
#232 [02:27] <Wug> unless you created the map with a seed, in which case you can use the same seed
#233 [02:27] <kirbywarp> I meant to have minecraft do this by default
#234 [02:27] <kirbywarp> it seems to erase both files when you are playing, if I'm not mistaken...
#235 [02:27] <Wug> they're only empty if something goes wrong
#236 [02:28] <Wug> they're never supposed to be empty, but if it crashes while they're saving it sometimes happens
#237 [02:28] <kirbywarp> hm... I see...
#238 [02:28] <Wug> I blame bad desig decisionns
#239 [02:28] <Wug> design*
#240 [02:29] * kirbywar1 [kirbywar1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#241 [02:30] <kirbywar1> ... guess what just happened.... X(
#242 [02:31] <aetherian> I'm quite fine
#243 [02:31] <kirbywar1> computer crashed, and apparently irc thinks I'm still logged in?
#244 [02:31] <aetherian> well durh
#245 [02:31] <kirbywar1> seems like both .dat files recovered though...
#246 [02:31] <Wug> it does say you quit
#247 [02:31] <aetherian> /msg nickserv ghost kirbywarp PASSWORD
#248 [02:32] <aetherian> but you did quit
#249 [02:32] <kirbywar1> what does that do?
#250 [02:32] <aetherian> /nick kirbywarp
#251 [02:32] <kirbywarp> ah, thanks
#252 [02:33] <kirbywarp> all sorted
#253 [02:33] <kirbywarp> I've got Arch Linux, and some flash player problem keeps crashing my computer...
#254 [02:33] <kirbywarp> It kinda sucks, since it doesn't happen too consistantly.
#255 [02:34] <aetherian> guess what
#256 [02:34] <Wug> what
#257 [02:35] <aetherian> dunno, I'm asking you
#258 [02:35] <Thoatt> chicken butt.
#259 [02:35] <VoxelHead> i don't know... weee hoo hoo hoo!
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#261 [02:46] <GRIMREAPPER> The Game
#262 [02:49] <Thoatt> /kick GRIMREAPPER
#263 [02:49] <Thoatt> lol
#264 [02:49] <aetherian> http://xkcd.com/391/ :DDD
#265 [02:49] <GRIMREAPPER> no
#266 [02:49] <GRIMREAPPER> lol
#267 [02:58] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/zZEgz.jpg
#268 [03:02] <aetherian> Thoatt: you're late
#269 [03:02] <Thoatt> Your mom's late!
#270 [03:02] <Thoatt> Congrats, you'll have a sibling.
#271 [03:02] <aetherian> yes. yes she was.
#272 [03:02] <aetherian> and I already have siblings
#273 [03:02] <Thoatt> :P
#274 [03:03] <aetherian> :D
#275 [03:03] <VoxelHead> :-)
#276 [03:03] <aetherian> I have a two year old brother :| / :)
#277 [03:04] <aetherian> and a one year old brother :D
#278 [03:04] <Wug> voxelhead, GRIMREAPPER mentioned the game. please kick him
#279 [03:04] <Wug> except wait
#280 [03:04] <aetherian> I'd kick him, but he already left
#281 [03:04] <Thoatt> .... he's not here..
#282 [03:04] <aetherian> :|
#283 [03:04] <Thoatt> same lol
#284 [03:04] <Wug> derp
#285 [03:04] <Wug> its more fun to see if vox will do it
#286 [03:05] <Wug> he does that sometimes
#287 [03:05] <Wug> I'm always waiting for an excuse to set him on people lol
#288 [03:05] <aetherian> ಠ.ಠ
#289 [03:05] <Thoatt> vox, kick Wug for trying to tell you to kick people!
#290 [03:06] <Thoatt> Vox, decloak
#291 [03:06] * VoxelHead kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: request)
#292 [03:06] <VoxelHead> Already decloaked, sir
#293 [03:06] <Thoatt> LOL
#294 [03:06] <Thoatt> xD
#295 [03:06] <aetherian> o.o
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#297 [03:06] <Thoatt> <3 vox
#298 [03:06] <Wug> and you thought it wouldnt happen
#299 [03:06] <aetherian> but who requested is the question
#300 [03:06] <Thoatt> me.. lol
#301 [03:06] <aetherian> or did someone see you request and make it actually do it
#302 [03:06] <Thoatt> sorry Wug ._.
#303 [03:06] <Wug> lol
#304 [03:06] <Thoatt> I'm pretty sure it was me lol
#305 [03:06] <aetherian> vox, kick Thoatt for asking you to kick wug for asking you to kick someone for mentioning the game
#306 [03:07] <Wug> I usually ask him to kick me if Im leaving
#307 [03:07] <Wug> vox, please kick *. he is an troll
#308 [03:07] <aetherian> that doesn't work, trust me
#309 [03:07] <kirbywarp> vox please aetherian for being confusing...
#310 [03:07] <aetherian> :D
#311 [03:07] <kirbywarp> *please kick
#312 [03:07] <VoxelHead> =]
#313 [03:07] <VoxelHead> What?
#314 [03:07] <kirbywarp> and then kick me for bad grammer
#315 [03:07] <Thoatt> what what?
#316 [03:07] <Thoatt> lol
#317 [03:07] <Thoatt> vox, kick me.
#318 [03:08] * VoxelHead kicked Thoatt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: request)
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#320 [03:08] <Thoatt> lol
#321 [03:08] <Wug> lol
#322 [03:08] <kirbywarp> :(
#323 [03:08] <VoxelHead> *starts shuffling cards*
#324 [03:08] <aetherian> autorejoin D:<
#325 [03:08] <Thoatt> vox, hit me
#326 [03:08] <Thoatt> vox, deal
#327 [03:08] <aetherian> vox, give Thoatt a coffee
#328 [03:08] * VoxelHead gives Thoatt a coffee
#328 [03:08] <Thoatt> vox... Y U NO DEAL
#329 [03:08] <Wug> voxelhead: more power to noodle dispensers!!1
#330 [03:08] <Thoatt> kealper
#331 [03:08] <Thoatt> you here?
#332 [03:08] * aetherian gives vox a coffee
#332 [03:08] <VoxelHead> ta
#333 [03:08] <Kealper> rawr
#334 [03:08] <VoxelHead> mmmmm...
#335 [03:08] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee =D
#335 [03:09] <aetherian> hello kelly
#336 [03:09] <Thoatt> Kealper: it's boring in here...
#337 [03:09] <Kealper> it happens
#338 [03:09] <Thoatt> still have the chat module?
#339 [03:09] <Thoatt> chat quiz module*
#340 [03:09] <Kealper> the what?
#341 [03:09] <Wug> make vox kick all the ops. instant fun
#342 [03:09] <Kealper> no, that was for sro lol
#343 [03:09] <Thoatt> oh.. herp
#344 [03:09] <aetherian> Thoatt: he has a better module :o
#345 [03:09] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#345 [03:09] <Thoatt> I thought there was a irc one as well
#346 [03:09] <VoxelHead> Mmmm... thanks :)
#347 [03:09] <Kealper> i don't feel like converting it to an aubot module
#348 [03:09] <Thoatt> rofl
#349 [03:10] <Kealper> Wug: you do realize that you were never doing anything with the kick commands, right?
#350 [03:10] <Kealper> that was xales giving it the actual kick command each time you said that
#351 [03:10] <Thoatt> orly?
#352 [03:10] <Wug> lol
#353 [03:10] <Kealper> mega trolled...lol
#354 [03:11] <aetherian> Kealper: like I said, rofl
#355 [03:11] <xales> 03:07:30 <xales> .kick Thoatt
#356 [03:11] <xales> 03:07:31 <VoxelHead> [00:08] #xales# (#MineCraftHelp) kick Thoatt
#357 [03:11] <xales> 03:07:31 <VoxelHead> Okay, done.
#358 [03:11] <xales> 03:07:32 <VoxelHead> [00:08] Thoatt kicked from #MineCraftHelp by VoxelHead: request
#359 [03:11] <Wug> its more fun to think i did it :)
#360 [03:11] <Thoatt> lol
#361 [03:11] <Thoatt> xales: Y U ACT LIEK WIZARD?
#362 [03:11] <Kealper> lol
#363 [03:11] <xales> lol
#364 [03:11] <aetherian> Thoatt: what is this, an MMORPG?
#365 [03:12] <Thoatt> No...
#366 [03:12] <Thoatt> THIS
#367 [03:12] <Thoatt> IS
#368 [03:12] <aetherian> no
#369 [03:12] <Thoatt> SPARRRRTA
#370 [03:12] <aetherian> just no
#371 [03:12] <Thoatt> !kick aetherian
#372 [03:12] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Thoatt with reason: None given.))
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#374 [03:12] <Wug> if I keep being nice to vox it will gain sentience
#375 [03:12] <xales> wat
#376 [03:12] <Thoatt> lool
#377 [03:12] <Kealper> owned
#378 [03:12] <xales> that's not supposed to work for you
#379 [03:12] <VoxelHead> loooooooooool
#380 [03:12] <xales> is it?
#381 [03:12] <Thoatt> shhh
#382 [03:12] <aetherian> aww
#383 [03:12] <Thoatt> *jedi hand wave* you saw nothing
#384 [03:12] <aetherian> I don't have kick anymore
#385 [03:12] <Thoatt> aren't you v?
#386 [03:12] <aetherian> y u no liek me no more chanserv
#387 [03:12] <VoxelHead> lemmie go look that up
#388 [03:13] <Thoatt> v's have kick iirc
#389 [03:13] <Thoatt> for aubot
#390 [03:13] <Kealper> aetherian: new setup means that in order to give you kick, we'd have to give you ban, too
#391 [03:13] <aetherian> Kealper: :D
#392 [03:13] <Thoatt> o.O
#393 [03:13] <Kealper> + does not have kick with aubot, people on it's whitelist do
#394 [03:13] <Kealper> it's too much work to make it listen to people with +
#395 [03:13] <Thoatt> oh... ok lol
#396 [03:14] <xales> why is Thoatt on the whitelist? lol
#397 [03:14] <Thoatt> I'm not lol
#398 [03:14] <Thoatt> I'm on the ownerlist
#399 [03:14] <xales> why? :P
#400 [03:14] <Wug> an haxor 0.o
#401 [03:14] <Thoatt> because... I'm special? lol
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#403 [03:14] <Kealper> actually i may have not added you to the owner list
#404 [03:14] * Kealper looks
#404 [03:14] <Thoatt> ... I'm 40% positive you did...
#405 [03:14] <Thoatt> !disable
#406 [03:14] <Thoatt> !enable
#407 [03:15] <darkness> hi, does anybody know how to make a private server?
#408 [03:15] <Thoatt> !enable
#409 [03:15] <Thoatt> ...
#410 [03:15] <Thoatt> THEN Y U NO TELL ME
#411 [03:15] <Kealper> that is still the whitelist for that module
#412 [03:15] <Thoatt> oh...
#413 [03:15] <Thoatt> then... why does it say owners... lol
#414 [03:15] <Thoatt> yes darkness, we do.
#415 [03:15] <Kealper> to make people feel cooler than they are lol
#416 [03:15] <Thoatt> *sob*
#417 [03:16] <darkness> Thoatt, can you tell me then plz?
#418 [03:16] <Thoatt> darkness: download the exe from minecraft.net and run it
#419 [03:16] <Kealper> !server
#420 [03:16] <aetherian> (or jar)
#421 [03:16] <darkness> Thoatt, i have linux^^
#422 [03:16] <Thoatt> then the jar file lol
#423 [03:16] <aetherian> when is a exe not an exe
#424 [03:16] <darkness> i alrdy downloaded it... but how do i make the server?
#425 [03:16] <aetherian> when it's a jar :D
#426 [03:16] <darkness> and how can i connect to it^^
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#428 [03:16] <aetherian> launch it first
#429 [03:16] <Thoatt> then run it with the command: -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#430 [03:17] <aetherian> no
#431 [03:17] <Thoatt> fail
#432 [03:17] <Thoatt> + java
#433 [03:17] <Thoatt> -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#434 [03:17] <xales> that's the client, Thoatt
#435 [03:17] <Thoatt> FFS COPY.. Y U NO WORK
#436 [03:17] <aetherian> java -jar minecraft_server.jar is the easiest way
#437 [03:17] <Thoatt> shhh
#438 [03:17] <Thoatt> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#439 [03:17] <aetherian> ಠ_ಠ
#440 [03:17] <darkness> yeah, the server is running
#441 [03:17] <Thoatt> I was just seeing if you were paying attention :D
#442 [03:17] <aetherian> ex it out
#443 [03:17] <darkness> and how can i connect to it now?
#444 [03:17] <aetherian> ex it out!
#445 [03:17] <Thoatt> open up your client, and connect to 127.0.0.1
#446 [03:17] <Kealper> you all suck at helping
#447 [03:18] <aetherian> Kealper: it has to be restart
#448 [03:18] <darkness> erm... where is a connect-button?
#449 [03:18] <aetherian> or localhost, for that mat-
#450 [03:18] <Thoatt> multiplayer
#451 [03:18] <aetherian> under multiplayer
#452 [03:18] <aetherian> the ninjas were cowards >:
#453 [03:18] <Thoatt> pirates > ninjas
#454 [03:18] <darkness> ah ok, so i have to click offline and then multiplayer, r8?
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#456 [03:18] <Thoatt> no.
#457 [03:18] <Thoatt> log in?
#458 [03:19] <Thoatt> Have you purchased minecraft?
#459 [03:19] <VoxelHead> take one little step left
#460 [03:19] <darkness> nope, just downloaded t^^
#461 [03:19] <darkness> it*
#462 [03:19] <Thoatt> >.>
#463 [03:19] <Kealper> ._.
#464 [03:19] <aetherian> you need to pay
#465 [03:19] <Thoatt> or play classic.
#466 [03:19] <aetherian> PAY WITH YOUR SOUL
#467 [03:19] <darkness> k
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#469 [03:19] <darkness> can i download classic anywhere?
#470 [03:19] <aetherian> no
#471 [03:19] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#472 [03:20] <Thoatt> yes aetherian lol
#473 [03:20] <Thoatt> classic is still free
#474 [03:20] <xales> but not downloadable
#475 [03:20] <xales> (legitimately)
#476 [03:20] <aetherian> haha!
#477 [03:20] <VoxelHead> \o/ haha
#478 [03:20] <Thoatt> well, in browser
#479 [03:20] <darkness> k, thx
#480 [03:20] <darkness> cya :)
#481 [03:20] <aetherian> Thoatt: I win D:
#482 [03:24] <aetherian> about:blank is the best site evar
#483 [03:24] <aetherian> and I need to go to bed
#484 [03:24] <Kealper> about:home is better
#485 [03:24] <kirbywarp> I know, that's been my homepage for quite some time
#486 [03:24] <xales> about:robots is best
#487 [03:25] <aetherian> xales: .-.
#488 [03:25] <aetherian> gee, so obscure there
#489 [03:25] <Thoatt> about:mozilla is the bestestistestis
#490 [03:25] <aetherian> sides
#491 [03:25] <aetherian> I don't get that on chromium ;o
#492 [03:25] <Thoatt> :P
#493 [03:25] <Kealper> about:about
#494 [03:25] * xales kicked Thoatt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: D:)
#495 [03:26] <Kealper> lol
#496 [03:26] <kirbywarp> about:about:about
#497 [03:26] <aetherian> xales: why you so mean
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#499 [03:26] <aetherian> ABOUT FACE
#500 [03:26] <Thoatt> ?
#501 [03:26] <Thoatt> >.>
#502 [03:26] <aetherian> oh
#503 [03:26] * VoxelHead falls over
#503 [03:26] <aetherian> I see
#504 [03:26] <aetherian> I know vox
#505 [03:26] <aetherian> we're all doomed
#506 [03:26] <kirbywarp> about:aetherian
#507 [03:26] <Kealper> woh
#508 [03:26] <kirbywarp> :O oh my...
#509 [03:26] <Kealper> about:logo
#510 [03:26] <xales> VoxelHead: courtmartial mr_flea
#511 [03:26] <aetherian> thank you, kealper, for not somehow implementing kicking for voices
#512 [03:26] * VoxelHead throws mr_flea in the brig to await charges
#512 [03:26] <aetherian> we're all be dead now
#513 [03:27] <aetherian> 's/we're/we'd'
#514 [03:27] <Kealper> poor mr_flea
#515 [03:27] <mr_flea> >:|
#516 [03:27] <aetherian> he doesn't have remorse :o
#517 [03:27] <VoxelHead> mr_flea, you are charged with having sex with a PADD, and existing
#518 [03:27] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to explain quantum physics to Jade. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#519 [03:27] <aetherian> especially the existing part :O
#520 [03:28] <Kealper> i should totally make aubot +q the target when vox throws them in the brig
#521 [03:28] <Kealper> and kick them if they are found guity, or -q them if they are innocent
#522 [03:28] <Thoatt> the about:about link on about:about... is so meta..
#523 [03:29] <Kealper> lol
#524 [03:29] <aetherian> I dun' get it on chromium
#525 [03:29] <Kealper> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:2.2a1pre) Gecko/20110402 Firefox/4.2a1pre
#526 [03:29] <Kealper> \o/
#527 [03:29] <aetherian> but night fo' realz
#528 [03:29] * Kealper waves
#528 [03:29] <aetherian> windows nt :o
#529 [03:29] <Kealper> NT 6.1 = windows 7
#530 [03:30] <Thoatt> lol
#531 [03:30] <aetherian> it looks funny though
#532 [03:30] <aetherian> you gots to admits
#533 [03:30] <AG_Scott> Should of been called Windows Vista2.
#534 [03:30] <VoxelHead> Should HAVE, Should HAVE
#535 [03:30] <Thoatt> rofl.
#536 [03:30] <aetherian> I woulda bought i- no.
#537 [03:30] <Kealper> lul
#538 [03:30] <aetherian> next year is 2011v2.0
#539 [03:30] <Thoatt> lol.. I have the same BI..
#540 [03:31] <aetherian> ew
#541 [03:31] <Thoatt> cept I'm running W2008R2
#542 [03:32] <aetherian> windows is dead. long live windows.
#543 [03:32] <kirbywarp> O.o
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#545 [03:32] <kirbywarp> so all windows machines are zombies now?
#546 [03:33] <Thoatt> <prepared statement>Of course not.</prepared statement>
#547 [03:36] <Thoatt> brb
#548 [03:38] <xales> rbr
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#551 [03:47] <Thoatt> k back
#552 [03:48] <kirbywarp> Oh thank god. Thoatt, everything is gone to shit!
#553 [03:48] <kirbywarp> So much blood... my God...
#554 [03:48] <Thoatt> D:
#555 [03:48] <Thoatt> Headcount!
#556 [03:48] <Thoatt> 1!
#557 [03:48] <VoxelHead> thoatt: that's numberwang!
#558 [03:48] <kirbywarp> Tw... *glrk*
#559 [03:48] <Thoatt> Shitshit!
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#561 [03:48] <VoxelHead> \o/
#562 [03:48] * Thoatt [Thoatt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#563 [03:49] <kirbywarp> 4!
#564 [03:49] <Thoatt> Is everyone dead yet?
#565 [03:49] <Thoatt> Makes me want to play some....
#566 [03:49] <Thoatt> l4d2 :D
#567 [03:50] <Thoatt> kealper!
#568 [03:50] <Kealper> ?
#569 [03:50] <Kealper> werd
#570 [03:50] <Thoatt> l4d2? :S
#571 [03:51] <Thoatt> :)*
#572 [03:51] <Kealper> gimme a few
#573 [03:51] <Thoatt> kk
#574 [03:51] <Kealper> xales
#575 [03:51] <Kealper> wait
#576 [03:51] <Kealper> nvm....
#577 [03:51] <Kealper> fix your computer lol
#578 [03:51] <xales> what?
#579 [03:51] <xales> lol
#580 [03:51] <Thoatt> lemme start up all these damn messengers.
#581 [03:51] * Thoatt furriously clicks mouse
#581 [03:53] <Thoatt> ok so... who's hosting? lol
#582 [03:53] <Kealper> you, you have better upload
#583 [03:53] <Thoatt> lol ok
#584 [03:53] * Kealper rages at his modem
#584 [03:54] <Thoatt> xales, you have l4djew?
#585 [03:54] <xales> I don't know what that is
#586 [03:54] <Thoatt> l4d2
#587 [03:55] <Thoatt> Left4DeadDos
#588 [03:55] <Thoatt> It's a game... lol
#589 [03:55] <Kealper> i'm 80% sure he has it :/
#590 [03:56] <Thoatt> lol
#591 [03:56] <Thoatt> ok well, lemme know when you are ready kealper, I'm workin mah way through a salad atm
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#593 [03:56] <Kealper> lemme get something to eat real quick and i'll get in
#594 [03:56] <confus> I
#595 [03:57] <xales> fail
#596 [03:57] <Wug> lol
#597 [03:57] <xales> Telnet, Y U SUCK
#598 [03:57] <VoxelHead> U is a pile of spank
#599 [03:57] <xales> :|
#600 [03:57] <Wug> xales, vox needs a bit of work
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#602 [03:57] * Wug bangs vox with a wrench
#602 [03:58] <Thoatt> 'bit'? lol
#603 [03:58] <VoxelHead> Praise be to you.
#604 [03:58] <Wug> ^ example
#605 [03:58] <Thoatt> o gawd.. you made it religious!
#606 [03:58] <Kealper> vox, activate cloat
#607 [03:58] <VoxelHead> cloat to maximum^*#$£$£@@%percent%percent£$£%percent
#608 [03:58] <Kealper> vox, activate cloak
#609 [03:58] * VoxelHead brings cloak online
#609 [03:58] <Kealper> fail
#610 [03:58] <VoxelHead> Religious nutcases
#611 [03:58] <xales> Vox, activate religion detectors
#612 [03:58] <Wug> what does the cloak do
#613 [03:58] <Thoatt> vox, fire everything at xales
#614 [03:58] * VoxelHead analyses #minecrafthelp
#614 [03:58] <VoxelHead> xales: That "reads" as 9623 years.
#615 [03:58] <kirbywarp> ... wait, who are we cloating now?
#616 [03:58] * VoxelHead swoops in on xales
#616 [03:58] <VoxelHead> *opens the cargo hold and ejects some plastic drums at xales*
#617 [03:58] <xales> It changes the "fire everything", Wug
#618 [03:59] <Wug> vox, activate noodle detectorizor beams
#619 [03:59] <VoxelHead> Noodle detectorizor beams to maximum£*$%percent@£##^^^#.
#620 [04:00] <Thoatt> vox, court-martial Wug
#621 [04:00] <xales> no -
#622 [04:00] * Wug teleports away
#622 [04:00] <Thoatt> ...
#623 [04:01] <Wug> I should write a bot
#624 [04:01] <Wug> what channel had doopbot? was that here?
#625 [04:01] <xales> yeah
#626 [04:01] <xales> doopbot was mine
#627 [04:02] <Wug> doopbot was a bit more successful
#628 [04:02] <Wug> you should integrate it into vox
#629 [04:02] <Wug> doopbot could actually hold conversations
#630 [04:02] <Wug> whereas voxelhead...
#631 [04:02] * Wug waits for vox to say something ridiculous
#631 [04:02] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#631 [04:03] * Kealper finishs off the pizza
#631 [04:03] <Kealper> finishes*
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#633 [04:12] * VoxelHead kicked Vin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#634 [04:15] <Thoatt> Who's Vin? lol
#635 [04:15] <Kealper> idk
#636 [04:15] <Kealper> someone who was on the bot's banlist.....must have been a synced ban from M in #minecraft
#637 [04:15] <Thoatt> lol
#638 [04:17] <Kealper> make a game
#639 [04:17] <Kealper> i'm ready now lol
#640 [04:17] <Thoatt> finally?
#641 [04:17] <Kealper> finnaly.
#642 [04:17] <Kealper> finally*
#643 [04:17] <Thoatt> gimmie a minute lol
#644 [04:17] <xales> Kealper, actually I don't think so
#645 [04:18] <Kealper> xales: O.o
#646 [04:18] <xales> He was one of the "lol system32 delete" people
#647 [04:18] <Kealper> oh
#648 [04:18] <Thoatt> lol..
#649 [04:18] <Kealper> the kickbans should really have a reason :/
#650 [04:18] <xales> not if they are set by an op in the channel
#651 [04:19] <Kealper> oh, didn't realize it actually did it for those too
#652 [04:22] <xales> it has to
#653 [04:22] <xales> that's how it keeps banlist from filling
#654 [04:22] <xales> remember?
#655 [04:23] <Kealper> yeah, after you said that i was like "OH! DERP...that's the point of that banlist crap..." lol
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#657 [04:33] <Wug> so my program can now successfully read all of the important information except the actual map from a single player world
#658 [04:34] <Wug> doesn't do much yet, it just loads it
#659 [04:34] <Wug> but when I'm done it will perform various sanity checking and recovery operations
#660 [04:35] <xales> Kealper, you <3 screen, right?
#661 [04:35] <Wug> entity checking, chunk verification, etc
#662 [04:35] <Wug> the idea is you can throw it a broken save and it will magically fix it
#663 [04:35] <xales> Wug: if you actually manage it, it would be fabulous
#664 [04:35] <Wug> to the best of its ability
#665 [04:36] <xales> are you writing it in Java? Might want to send it to Mojang if you are :P
#666 [04:36] <Wug> c++
#667 [04:36] <Wug> i'll provide source codes to the forums when I finish it
#668 [04:37] <Wug> as great at coding as I am, I've probably made a few stupid choices that other people will be able to help fix
#669 [04:37] <xales> I'd offer to fix it, but I'd end up making it so nobody understood what it does anyway
#670 [04:38] <Wug> ill shoot some of it at you sometime
#671 [04:38] <xales> I tend to not comment code and use obscure language features, as well as some funny logic stuff
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#673 [04:38] <xales> like bit-shifting for some multiplication
#674 [04:38] <xales> because it's faster
#675 [04:38] <Wug> i'll be able to read it
#676 [04:38] <Wug> i code pretty much the same way
#677 [04:38] <Wug> in any case
#678 [04:39] <Wug> doing anything with dynamic typing is a bit hairy in c++, and as such there's no good way to do nbt reading
#679 [04:39] <Wug> so my solution involves lots of typecasting
#680 [04:39] <Wug> and other general ugliness
#681 [04:39] <xales> well, actually, there is
#682 [04:39] <xales> templates can be wonderous for it
#683 [04:39] <Wug> templates wouldn't work well as far as I know
#684 [04:40] <xales> it would be perfect
#685 [04:40] <xales> look at these
#686 [04:40] <xales> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wagnerr/ConfigFile.h
#687 [04:40] <xales> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wagnerr/ConfigFile.cpp
#688 [04:40] <xales> specifically, the T_as_string and the string_as_T
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#690 [04:41] <Wug> I'd rather not convert everything to strings
#691 [04:41] <Wug> especially because of lists and compounds
#692 [04:41] <Wug> that would be computationally... very expensive
#693 [04:42] <Wug> especially for chunks and sucl
#694 [04:42] <Wug> h*
#695 [04:42] <Wug> the bulk of data in a chunk is stored as lists of bytes
#696 [04:42] <xales> well
#697 [04:42] <Wug> and constantly converting that to and from strings would make it take about 10x longer
#698 [04:42] <xales> it doesn't have to be to a string
#699 [04:42] <xales> but you see how it works, yes?
#700 [04:42] <Wug> i get the idea
#701 [04:43] <xales> you should just convert to a struct that wraps char*
#702 [04:43] <Wug> but there is very little you can convert a list of items of variable size and type into
#703 [04:43] <xales> a char* and a type flag
#704 [04:43] <xales> in a struct
#705 [04:43] <Wug> especially once you start with lists of lists
#706 [04:44] <Wug> it's made more complicated by the fact that........
#707 [04:44] <Wug> have you read the nbt specs?
#708 [04:44] <xales> not really
#709 [04:44] <Wug> http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt
#710 [04:45] <Wug> ...... all of the data is stored in the file itself as actual types (4 bytes for an int, etc...)
#711 [04:45] <Wug> and that those items do not usually line up with word boundries
#712 [04:45] <Wug> so I still have to read it somehow
#713 [04:46] <Wug> and the nbt files are gzipped and must be decompressed
#714 [04:46] <xales> What I said would work very well, I think
#715 [04:47] <xales> typedef struct _nbt_entry
#716 [04:47] <xales> {
#717 [04:47] <xales> _nbt_entry *next;
#718 [04:47] <xales> char *data;
#719 [04:47] <xales> uint type;
#720 [04:47] <xales> }
#721 [04:47] <xales> nbt_entry
#722 [04:47] <xales> ;
#723 [04:47] <xales> (meh, fail)
#724 [04:47] <Wug> that's sort of what I have
#725 [04:47] <Wug> I do pretty much the same thing but I use inheritance
#726 [04:47] <Wug> so I have 13 or however many classes
#727 [04:48] <xales> you could use a factory paridigm, I suppose
#728 [04:48] <Wug> which have int data; or char data; or whatever
#729 [04:48] <xales> Factory::createInstance(nbt_data);
#730 [04:48] <Wug> they know their own type
#731 [04:48] <xales> returns appropriate class implementing x or derived from x
#732 [04:48] <Wug> i pretty much use a factory
#733 [04:48] <Wug> it builds a tree
#734 [04:48] <Wug> returns the root node
#735 [04:50] <Wug> nodes are encapsulated as well, because some features that normally every node has are absent under some circumstances (primarily, the name of the tag is omitted if the tag is in a list)
#736 [04:50] <xales> Aren't there already libraries for NBT parsing?
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#738 [04:50] <Wug> nodes have lookup functionality, which takes a name and a type
#739 [04:50] <Wug> i didn't see any for c++
#740 [04:51] <xales> hmm
#741 [04:51] <xales> I could help, if you want
#742 [04:51] <Wug> and i decided to write my own since this implementation is going to be designed to be extremely robust and resilient against corrupted data
#743 [04:51] <Wug> the nbt part works
#744 [04:52] <Wug> I can read level.dat and use the tree to initialize the level
#745 [04:52] <xales> oh, I meant with all of it
#746 [04:52] <xales> :P
#747 [04:52] <Wug> maybe
#748 [04:53] <Wug> I could use some help with the sanity checking stuff
#749 [04:53] <Wug> basically, you'd write a class or something that can take a level and perform some specific test on it
#750 [04:53] <Wug> like 'are there any illegal entities in any chunks'
#751 [04:53] <xales> I could do that, I suppose
#752 [04:54] <Wug> it won't be hard and you won't have to interact with any of the nbt stuff, that'll all be hidden
#753 [04:55] <Wug> I can write a list of the most common failure points that levels tend to have
#754 [04:55] <Wug> that entity one typically happens after a mod is removed
#755 [04:55] <Wug> like mocreatures
#756 [04:55] <Wug> there would be another test for 'are there any illegal block types'
#757 [04:56] <Wug> same situation
#758 [04:56] <Wug> the most common map glitch I see is where the game crashes while attempting to rewrite the chunk index in a region file
#759 [04:56] <Wug> the result is a chunk referenced in the wrong place
#760 [04:57] <Wug> when you go near it, it freezes you in place
#761 [04:57] <Wug> in any case, I'm tired and need sleep
#762 [04:58] <Wug> I'll post my work online sometime and you can have a poke at it
#763 [04:58] * Wug is away: ZZZZZZZZZ
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#769 [05:24] <TheBobber> Hi. Which mod is best for flying around?
#770 [05:24] <relsqui> ?? mods
#771 [05:24] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#772 [05:24] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#773 [05:25] <Wug[zzzz]> also, try #risucraft
#774 [05:25] <TheBobber> well I know how to install & such... just want to know which one most people use to fly with is all...
#775 [05:31] <TheBobber> also if the maker of LB Photo Realism x256 3.1.4 is here... you can save 5 megs on your files by using pngout on them...
#776 [05:32] <Kealper> >fly mod
#777 [05:32] <Kealper> >bad mod
#778 [05:32] <Kealper> i'd consider that more of a hack than a mod :/
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#781 [05:38] <TheBobber> just want to look around my world & see if there's any cool formations
#782 [05:39] <Kealper> it's its ability to be used to do nefarious dealings as the reason i consider it a hack
#783 [05:46] <TheBobber> nice usage of the itss there
#784 [05:47] <Kealper> that's correct usage :/
#785 [05:51] <TheBobber> I know
#786 [05:51] <TheBobber> I was complimenting you
#787 [05:52] <TheBobber> most people don't know how to use them
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#789 [05:53] <ALT3RNAT1V3> yo guys, how do i lock chests?
#790 [05:53] <Morrolan> You'll need a plugin for this.
#791 [05:53] <Morrolan> Oh, and you'd need to install bukkit first, obviously.
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#794 [05:59] <Mieulium> hello
#795 [06:02] <Thoatt|Movie> Hello.
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#797 [06:04] <Mieulium> how do you log into #minecraft
#798 [06:04] <Mieulium> made a acc this afternoon
#799 [06:04] <Mieulium> cant get in again
#800 [06:05] <relsqui> have you identified with nickserv since reconnecting?
#801 [06:05] <lemon-rev> Mieulium whats the message you get back mieulium
#802 [06:05] <Mieulium> i dont know which command to use
#803 [06:05] <lemon-rev> from minecraft
#804 [06:05] <Thoatt|Movie> On the site: /msg nickserv identify password
#805 [06:06] <Thoatt|Movie> fail
#806 [06:06] <Thoatt|Movie> not on the site
#807 [06:06] <Thoatt|Movie> /msg nickserv identify password
#808 [06:06] <lemon-rev> hm
#809 [06:06] <Thoatt|Movie> dunno where that line came from lol
#810 [06:06] <lemon-rev> bah
#811 [06:06] <Mieulium> ah
#812 [06:06] <Mieulium> ok
#813 [06:06] <Mieulium> that good
#814 [06:06] <Mieulium> ii got it
#815 [06:06] <Thoatt|Movie> :)
#816 [06:07] <Mieulium> well now thats done...
#817 [06:07] <Mieulium> does anyone know how to get rid of slimes?
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#819 [06:07] <lemon-rev> yea hit em
#820 [06:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#821 [06:07] <Mieulium> besides that
#822 [06:08] <Mieulium> is there any way to keep them from spawning
#823 [06:08] <lemon-rev> turn the game to peacefull lol
#824 [06:08] <lemon-rev> no
#825 [06:08] <Mieulium> D: not possible, on multiplayer
#826 [06:08] <lemon-rev> other from turning game to pussy lol
#827 [06:08] <Thoatt|Movie> rofl
#828 [06:08] <Morrolan> There might be a bukkit plugin for it, I don't know though.
#829 [06:08] <Mieulium> nahh
#830 [06:09] <Mieulium> i guess i just have to be more alert and make one block wide entrances
#831 [06:09] <Morrolan> [12:06] <lemon-rev> lol
#832 [06:09] <Morrolan> [12:06] <Mieulium> besides that
#833 [06:09] <Morrolan> [12:07] <Mieulium> is there any way to keep them from spawning
#834 [06:09] <Morrolan> [12:07] <lemon-rev> turn the game to peacefull lol
#835 [06:09] <Morrolan> Ignore that please. ^^
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#837 [06:09] <Morrolan> That stupid irc client auto sends messages when you paste them in the textbox. -.-
#838 [06:10] <relsqui> well ... yes
#839 [06:10] <relsqui> they have an enter at the end
#840 [06:10] <relsqui> the program can't tell if you typed or pasted the enter
#841 [06:10] <Morrolan> Yeah, that's true.
#842 [06:10] <relsqui> (I mean, it could, but it would be an unusual feature)
#843 [06:12] <Morrolan> Well, it wouldn't be that hard I guess. By looking at the speed at which the user inputs text it could detect it without too much hassle. :/
#844 [06:14] <Thoatt|Movie> All they would need to use is richedits, then wait for the enter key...
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#866 [07:05] <Thoatt|Movie> whoops....
#867 [07:06] <Thoatt|Movie> that wasn't the command I wanted lol
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#877 [07:44] <tweep> hey
#878 [07:44] <tweep> Smiley
#879 [07:44] <tweep> I need some help please :)
#880 [07:45] <Thoatt|Movie> ?? question
#881 [07:45] <Thoatt|Movie> ...
#882 [07:45] <Thoatt|Movie> ?? ask
#883 [07:45] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#884 [07:45] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#885 [07:45] <Thoatt|Movie> :)
#886 [07:46] <tweep> Basically, he made a thread about the black screen issue, and said to ask for him for help
#887 [07:46] <tweep> I am using ubuntu, and whenever I login I have a blackscreen - it doesn't load
#888 [07:46] <tweep> can anyone help me please?
#889 [07:46] <Thoatt> Are you using sun java?
#890 [07:46] <tweep> Yes
#891 [07:46] <tweep> I have disabled the other forms of java
#892 [07:46] <Thoatt> Do you have the correct drivers?
#893 [07:46] <Thoatt> (for your video card)
#894 [07:47] <tweep> Ermm, I do not know
#895 [07:47] <tweep> I am using an inspiron 1525, and running ubuntu
#896 [07:47] <tweep> how do i find out what video card and all?
#897 [07:47] <tweep> I'm not great at the whole driver thing - it is the one thing I can't do
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#899 [07:48] <Thoatt> pastbin your xorg log
#900 [07:48] <tweep> xorg log?
#901 [07:48] <tweep> ok, i cant do many things xD
#902 [07:49] <tweep> but drivers are my pet hate
#903 [07:49] <Thoatt> /etc/log/Xorg.0.log
#904 [07:49] <Thoatt> located there
#905 [07:49] <mib_fw2fga> Can you help me my game keeps stopping at the updating minecraft page
#906 [07:50] <tweep> i do not have the directory /log in etc
#907 [07:50] <Thoatt> o.O
#908 [07:51] <tweep> i am using the 11 beta of ubuntu, but it wasnt working on 10.10 aswell
#909 [07:51] <tweep> the beta is sweeeeet - unity aint bad
#910 [07:51] <Thoatt> hmm... I don't have any experience with 11.04... but I do have the iso..
#911 [07:51] <tweep> i doubt the ubuntu version has anything to do with it though
#912 [07:51] <Thoatt> gimmie about 10 minutes to install it :D
#913 [07:52] <tweep> wait
#914 [07:52] <tweep> do you run ubuntu?
#915 [07:52] <Thoatt> 10.10 on a few machines, yes
#916 [07:52] <tweep> coool
#917 [07:52] <tweep> okay, ill wait :)
#918 [07:52] <tweep> ty for your time
#919 [07:52] <Thoatt> np, I was going to install it anyways sometime...
#920 [07:52] <Thoatt> DopeGhoti: you here?
#921 [07:53] <Thoatt> k, it's installing now.
#922 [07:53] <tweep> cool
#923 [07:54] <tweep> are you doing it from an iso, or just updating through the package thing?
#924 [07:54] <Thoatt> iso
#925 [07:54] <Thoatt> shouldn't take long
#926 [07:54] <tweep> ahh - it takes a few hours update it through package manager
#927 [07:55] <Thoatt> lol... maybe on your computer :P
#928 [07:55] <tweep> true xD
#929 [07:55] <tweep> i cant make my mind up about unity; it is different, but i am so used to gnome no
#930 [07:55] <tweep> *now
#931 [07:55] <tweep> I'm just glad it runs both
#932 [07:55] <Thoatt> You could install gnome lol
#933 [07:55] <Thoatt> or... use it lol
#934 [07:55] <Thoatt> xP
#935 [07:56] <tweep> it runs both, but i cant make my mind up of which i like the most
#936 [07:56] <Thoatt> natty enables multi-touch unity as well :)
#937 [07:57] <tweep> yeah - that's pretty decent... although i dont have a touch screen pc xD
#938 [07:57] <Thoatt> xD
#939 [07:57] <tweep> okay, brb
#940 [07:57] <tweep> im switching back to unity
#941 [07:57] <Thoatt> k
#942 [07:57] <tweep> stupid question:
#943 [07:57] <tweep> how do you log out on gnome?
#944 [07:57] <Thoatt> >.>
#945 [07:57] <Thoatt> lol
#946 [07:57] <tweep> oh yeah, i forgot
#947 [07:58] <Thoatt> the logout button lol
#948 [07:58] <tweep> i deleted it ;)
#949 [07:58] <tweep> it was annoying me
#950 [07:58] <Thoatt> rofl
#951 [07:58] <tweep> i replaced it with the power button
#952 [07:58] <Thoatt> nerdy way of doing it:
#953 [07:58] <Thoatt> in terminal:
#954 [07:58] <tweep> hell yeah, nerdy ways
#955 [07:58] <Thoatt> gnome-session-save --kill --silent
#956 [07:58] <Thoatt> well
#957 [07:59] <Thoatt> wait
#958 [07:59] <Thoatt> that'll actually shut it down lol
#959 [07:59] <tweep> oh, lol
#960 [07:59] <tweep> i need to learn some terminal shit tbf
#961 [07:59] <tweep> im quite new to linux
#962 [07:59] <tweep> so, what is the logout command?
#963 [08:00] <tweep> meh, brb
#964 [08:00] <Thoatt> killall gnome-session xD
#965 [08:00] <Thoatt> nvm lol
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#967 [08:01] <tweep> back
#968 [08:01] <Thoatt> lol
#969 [08:01] <Thoatt> installed :D
#970 [08:01] <tweep> oooh
#971 [08:01] <tweep> do you like it?
#972 [08:01] <Thoatt> waiting for desktop to load lol
#973 [08:02] <tweep> lul - it took a while for the first time here aswell
#974 [08:02] <Thoatt> meh
#975 [08:02] <Thoatt> looks ok
#976 [08:02] <Thoatt> I suppose lol
#977 [08:02] <Thoatt> ok now..
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#979 [08:04] <mib_0vdvvm> I Need Help My Minecraft Stops Loading In The Updating Minecraft Page
#980 [08:05] <Thoatt> send(ucwords($msg))
#981 [08:05] <tweep> so, thoatt, what do about the blackscreen?
#982 [08:05] <tweep> any ideas?
#983 [08:06] <Thoatt> yeah, update your video card drivers to the propietary ones if they aren't already
#984 [08:06] <tweep> how do i do that sorry?
#985 [08:06] <tweep> i am quite a newbie to linux
#986 [08:07] <Thoatt> file->system->administration->additional drivers
#987 [08:08] <tweep> kay, stupid question again?: where is the file thing on unity
#988 [08:08] <Thoatt> top left
#989 [08:08] <Thoatt> the menu
#990 [08:08] <Thoatt> file because I had a program open and thought it was the label >.>
#991 [08:09] <tweep> ok, sorry for being awkward and stupid, but i am genuinly confused
#992 [08:10] <Thoatt> top left.
#993 [08:10] <Thoatt> click the menu
#994 [08:10] <tweep> right, ive got it
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#996 [08:10] <Thoatt> system -> administration -> additional drivers
#997 [08:10] <tweep> right, ive got it it, and there are no other drivers there
#998 [08:10] <Thoatt> hmmm...
#999 [08:10] <tweep> the only driver there is the wireless
#1000 [08:11] <tweep> would i need to install drivers through synaptic?
#1001 [08:11] <tweep> i dont know what id be installing though
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#1003 [08:13] <Thoatt> run this
#1004 [08:13] <Thoatt> in terminal
#1005 [08:13] <Thoatt> lspci | grep VGA
#1006 [08:13] <Thoatt> it will tell you want video card you have, should be a Mobile Intel GM965 Express
#1007 [08:14] <Thoatt> what*
#1008 [08:14] <tweep> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
#1009 [08:14] <tweep> so yeah, it is
#1010 [08:15] <tweep> what shall i do now?
#1011 [08:17] <tweep> Thoatt ?
#1012 [08:17] <Thoatt> sec.
#1013 [08:17] <tweep> kk
#1014 [08:18] <Thoatt> trying to find the stupid file lol
#1015 [08:18] <tweep> are you trying to find the java logging file?
#1016 [08:18] <tweep> that log thing you were on about earlier?
#1017 [08:18] <Thoatt> no, the xorg log file
#1018 [08:18] <tweep> ah, okays
#1019 [08:19] <Thoatt> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
#1020 [08:19] <Thoatt> there lol
#1021 [08:20] <Thoatt> Pastebin that please :)
#1022 [08:21] <tweep> is pastebin that site?
#1023 [08:21] <tweep> /realdumbass today
#1024 [08:21] <Thoatt> http://pastebin.com/
#1025 [08:22] <tweep> http://pastebin.com/TEuqXbWa
#1026 [08:23] <Thoatt> yep, it's just using a default driver.. one sec.
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#1028 [08:27] <Thoatt> well... idk how to update without using the 'additional drivers' for 11.04... I'd just add the repo for intel drivers and try doing it that way...
#1029 [08:29] <Thoatt> tweep: Have you tried in the browser?
#1030 [08:29] <Thoatt> playing it in the browser*
#1031 [08:29] <tweep> i shall try that
#1032 [08:29] <tweep> prettyu sure it didnt work
#1033 [08:29] <Thoatt> ok, run it in the terminal and look for the error it gives.
#1034 [08:30] <tweep> how do i run it in terminal?
#1035 [08:30] <Thoatt> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1036 [08:31] <Thoatt> ofc in the directory of wherever you downloaded it.
#1037 [08:31] <tweep> okay
#1038 [08:31] <tweep> gimme a min pls
#1039 [08:32] <Thoatt> no rush :)
#1040 [08:32] <tweep> what is weird is that if i delete bin, and then run it it loads after downloading the file - it wont download again
#1041 [08:32] <Thoatt> I have all day :)
#1042 [08:32] <tweep> is that sarcasm?
#1043 [08:32] <tweep> ;)
#1044 [08:32] <Thoatt> nope lol.. I actaully have all dayt
#1045 [08:32] <Thoatt> -t
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#1047 [08:32] <tweep> oh, lol
#1048 [08:33] <tweep> thoatt, how do i force quit - whats the command?
#1049 [08:33] <Thoatt> kill [pid]
#1050 [08:33] <Thoatt> ps -a | grep java
#1051 [08:33] <Thoatt> then kill the pid
#1052 [08:34] <tweep> i meant how do i bring up the force quit thing where you click on the window; altf2 and what do i type?
#1053 [08:34] <tweep> oh, no worries
#1054 [08:35] <Thoatt> idk lol
#1055 [08:35] <Thoatt> never did it...
#1056 [08:35] <tweep> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1057 [08:35] * Thoatt is more of a command line linux user
#1057 [08:35] <Thoatt> lol
#1058 [08:35] <tweep> lol
#1059 [08:35] <tweep> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#1060 [08:35] <tweep> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1061 [08:35] <tweep> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
#1062 [08:35] <tweep> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#1063 [08:35] <tweep> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
#1064 [08:35] <Thoatt> anything over a few lines -> pastebin please :)
#1065 [08:36] <Thoatt> uh...
#1066 [08:36] <Thoatt> hmm...
#1067 [08:36] <tweep> muted
#1068 [08:36] <tweep> oh wait - i am n?ot muted
#1069 [08:37] <tweep> http://pastebin.com/MdmWea6m
#1070 [08:38] <Thoatt> You need to run that command at where you downloaded the launcher... not the bin folder
#1071 [08:38] <tweep> im confused
#1072 [08:38] <Thoatt> you downloaded the file... lol
#1073 [08:39] <Thoatt> the launcher
#1074 [08:39] <Thoatt> are you running the command from that folder?
#1075 [08:39] <tweep> how do i run a command from any folder?
#1076 [08:39] <tweep> i am not very good at commands
#1077 [08:39] <Thoatt> open terminal
#1078 [08:39] <Thoatt> I'd asssume your downloads are at: ~/downloads
#1079 [08:40] <tweep> it is /desktop where i keep my minecraft.jar
#1080 [08:40] <tweep> so what command do i run then, if it is therE?
#1081 [08:40] <Thoatt> cd Desktop
#1082 [08:40] <tweep> could explain how it works please - this has confused me many a time
#1083 [08:41] <Thoatt> "Chage Directory" to desktop
#1084 [08:41] <Thoatt> lol
#1085 [08:41] <tweep> ah
#1086 [08:41] <Thoatt> so... now do 'ls'
#1087 [08:41] <Thoatt> to make sure you can see the minecraft.jar file
#1088 [08:41] <tweep> i can
#1089 [08:41] <Thoatt> do you see it?
#1090 [08:41] <Thoatt> ok
#1091 [08:41] <Thoatt> now run this command
#1092 [08:41] <Thoatt> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1093 [08:42] <tweep> http://pastebin.com/M8JUZj6m
#1094 [08:42] <tweep> still get that
#1095 [08:43] <Thoatt> ok
#1096 [08:43] <Thoatt> still in terminal?
#1097 [08:43] <tweep> yeah
#1098 [08:43] <Thoatt> rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin
#1099 [08:43] <Thoatt> then run the java command again
#1100 [08:44] <tweep> same command
#1101 [08:44] <Thoatt> yes
#1102 [08:44] <tweep> dame result
#1103 [08:44] <tweep> *same
#1104 [08:44] <Thoatt> same result
#1105 [08:44] <Thoatt> hmmm...
#1106 [08:44] <tweep> wait, did i need to cd the the rm-rf ?
#1107 [08:44] <Thoatt> no
#1108 [08:44] <tweep> owen@owen-laptop:~/Desktop$ rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin
#1109 [08:44] <tweep> that was the command that was pasted
#1110 [08:44] <Thoatt> '~' is your home directory.
#1111 [08:44] <tweep> oh
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#1113 [08:45] <tweep> that is weird...
#1114 [08:45] <Thoatt> it was an absolute directory, not a relative lol
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#1116 [08:45] <Thoatt> Has mc ever worked before fo your?
#1117 [08:45] <Thoatt> you*
#1118 [08:45] <tweep> yeah
#1119 [08:45] <tweep> since 1.3 it stopped i think
#1120 [08:45] <Thoatt> Did anything else change then?
#1121 [08:46] <tweep> what do you mean?
#1122 [08:46] <Thoatt> like, did you change OSs, any major driver changes, etc?
#1123 [08:46] <tweep> nawp
#1124 [08:46] <Thoatt> Have you tried re-installing java?
#1125 [08:46] <tweep> yea
#1126 [08:46] <Thoatt> and you are sure you are using sunjava? lol
#1127 [08:47] <tweep> for 1.3 it was a lwgl (or something like that) problem, and i downloaded something and it fixed
#1128 [08:47] <tweep> i tried for 1.4 and it wont work
#1129 [08:47] <tweep> i thinj
#1130 [08:47] <tweep> lwjgl?
#1131 [08:47] <tweep> idk
#1132 [08:47] <tweep> i am using sunjava, yes
#1133 [08:47] <tweep> the other ones are disabled too
#1134 [08:47] <Thoatt> if you wanted to re-install lwjgl:
#1135 [08:47] <Thoatt> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.5/lwjgl-2.5.zip/download
#1136 [08:48] <Thoatt> put that in your ~/.minecraft/bin folder
#1137 [08:48] <Thoatt> well...
#1138 [08:48] <tweep> i think thats what i did last time
#1139 [08:48] <tweep> but it didnt work
#1140 [08:48] <Thoatt> extract and put it in there
#1141 [08:48] <Thoatt> How far does the launcher get?
#1142 [08:48] <Thoatt> does it update?
#1143 [08:49] <tweep> it does update
#1144 [08:49] <tweep> but after that it stops
#1145 [08:49] <tweep> well, if i delete bin and it has to download everything it works sometimes
#1146 [08:50] <Thoatt> When was the last time you tried installing the latest version of the game engine?
#1147 [08:50] <Thoatt> (lwjgl)
#1148 [08:50] <Thoatt> because honestly, that's just about the only thing I can think of that's crashing it.
#1149 [08:50] <tweep> what is the latest version?
#1150 [08:51] <Thoatt> 2.7.1
#1151 [08:51] <Thoatt> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/
#1152 [08:51] <tweep> okays
#1153 [08:51] <Thoatt> (the other link was an older one >.>
#1154 [08:51] <Thoatt> )
#1155 [08:53] * Thoatt puts clamd on a cronjob
#1155 [08:53] <tweep> ahh haaa
#1156 [08:53] <tweep> i think it is the lwjgl
#1157 [08:53] <tweep> it is working now
#1158 [08:53] <Thoatt> did it work? lol
#1159 [08:53] <Thoatt> awesome
#1160 [08:53] <tweep> thank you ever so much for all of your help - if i could ever repay you i would :)
#1161 [08:53] <tweep> thanks <33
#1162 [08:53] <Thoatt> sorry it took so long to fix =/
#1163 [08:53] <tweep> dude, its not your fault
#1164 [08:54] <tweep> and thanks to you i also know a lot more linux and teminal :)
#1165 [08:54] <tweep> thanks so much
#1166 [08:54] <Thoatt> np :)
#1167 [08:54] <tweep> right, im off to grap a pot noodle
#1168 [08:55] <Thoatt> lol, hf :)
#1169 [08:55] <tweep> also, i like the irc channel - i might stick around, because it is nice here :)
#1170 [08:55] <Thoatt> It's only nice because everyone is afk
#1171 [08:55] <Thoatt> :P
#1172 [08:56] <Thoatt> vox, fire everthing at kealper
#1173 [08:56] <Thoatt> xales must be asleep lol
#1174 [08:56] <Thoatt> ### The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Notch! || #help for IRC hel ###
#1175 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:17:14 #minecrafthelp: <tweep> Thoatt ?
#1176 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:32:32 #minecrafthelp: <tweep> thoatt, how do i force quit - whats the command?
#1177 [08:56] <Thoatt> ### [2:EsperNet (change with ^X)] ###
#1178 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:50:51 <+Thoatt> (the other link was an older one >.>
#1179 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:50:54 <+Thoatt> )
#1180 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:26 * Thoatt puts clamd on a cronjob
#1181 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:28 <tweep> ahh haaa
#1182 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:37 <tweep> i think it is the lwjgl
#1183 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:42 <tweep> it is working now
#1184 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:45 <+Thoatt> did it work? lol
#1185 [08:56] <Thoatt> 08:52:48 <+Thoatt> awesome
#1186 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:03 <tweep> thank you ever so much for all of your help - if i could ever repay you i would :)
#1187 [08:57] <mitpatterson_> WTF Thoatt spam, BAN
#1188 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:09 <tweep> thanks <33
#1189 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:12 <+Thoatt> sorry it took so long to fix =/
#1190 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:21 <tweep> dude, its not your fault
#1191 [08:57] <tweep> what is happenning?
#1192 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:32 <tweep> and thanks to you i also know a lot more linux and teminal :)
#1193 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:53:53 <tweep> thanks so much
#1194 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:54:09 <+Thoatt> np :)
#1195 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:54:20 <tweep> right, im off to grap a pot noodle
#1196 [08:57] <mitpatterson_> vox kick thoatt
#1197 [08:57] <Thoatt> 08:54:38 <+Thoatt> lol, hf :)
#1198 [08:57] <Thoatt> ### [08:54:40] [+Thoatt(+i) (zZzZ)] [1:EsperNet/#minecrafthelp(+cnt)] ###
#1199 [08:57] <Thoatt> ### [1|#minecrafthelp 2|hilight 3|(status) 4|tweep] ###
#1200 [08:57] <Thoatt> [#minecrafthelp]
#1201 [08:57] <mitpatterson_> can someone kick Thoatt
#1202 [08:57] <Thoatt> POOOOOP
#1203 [08:57] <Thoatt> xales is away :P
#1204 [08:57] <Thoatt> ffs.... rightclick fail
#1205 [08:57] <Thoatt> !kick Thoatt
#1206 [08:57] * AuBot kicked Thoatt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Thoatt with reason: None given.))
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#1208 [08:57] <mitpatterson_> lmao
#1209 [08:57] <tweep> what happened there?
#1210 [08:57] <Thoatt> happy? lol
#1211 [08:58] <mitpatterson_> no
#1212 [08:58] <Thoatt> copy/paste in this... is waaay too easy lol
#1213 [08:58] <tweep> thoatt - do you prefer unity or gnome then?
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#1215 [08:58] <Thoatt> idk.. haven't tried 11.04 unity
#1216 [08:59] <tweep> haven't you?
#1217 [08:59] <tweep> did you login to the classic?
#1218 [08:59] <Thoatt> not on 11.04
#1219 [08:59] <Thoatt> I logged into terminal.. FTW :)
#1220 [08:59] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, i'm looking at my server console, and i see this: "2011-04-02 22:55:47 [INFO] /86.26.11.81:59059 lost connection
#1221 [08:59] <mitpatterson_> " why is there no user name?
#1222 [08:59] <tweep> oh gawddd
#1223 [08:59] <tweep> thoatt so mand with terminal xD
#1224 [08:59] <tweep> i am genuinly impressed xD
#1225 [08:59] <Thoatt> rofl lol
#1226 [08:59] <tweep> i need to stop saying xD
#1227 [08:59] <Thoatt> I'm shit compared to some people lol
#1228 [09:00] <tweep> i am shit compared to everyone then
#1229 [09:00] <Thoatt> and mitpatterson_ no clue lol
#1230 [09:00] * tweep is going to grab some food - away from keyboard
#1230 [09:00] <mitpatterson_> and i didn't even see that IP connect to begin with, werid
#1231 [09:00] <mitpatterson_> let me do a look up of that iP
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#1233 [09:01] <Thoatt> london lol
#1234 [09:01] <Valura> hi
#1235 [09:01] <Thoatt> well...
#1236 [09:01] <Thoatt> North Somerset
#1237 [09:01] <Valura> just wondering how I can make a tools mod texture pack compatible
#1238 [09:01] <mitpatterson_> hmmm Cambridge, Cambridgeshire in United Kingdom
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#1240 [09:02] <Thoatt> hmmm...
#1241 [09:02] <mitpatterson_> no clue who it was.... thats just odd no user name
#1242 [09:02] <Thoatt> my build defaultly boots to just the normal gnome desktop.. interesting..
#1243 [09:02] <mitpatterson_> someone using a hacked account/client?
#1244 [09:03] <Thoatt> not sure...
#1245 [09:03] <Thoatt> perhaps just a bad connection
#1246 [09:03] <Kealper> wut
#1247 [09:03] <OODavo> I think that's what AuBot looks like when doing a check, so could be something automated like that.
#1248 [09:03] <Xerati> i need help with bukkit and mcp!11!
#1249 [09:03] <Thoatt> Xerati: join #bukkit then
#1250 [09:03] <Xerati> i mean, sup mang
#1251 [09:03] <Xerati> i know
#1252 [09:03] <Thoatt> ._.
#1253 [09:03] <mitpatterson_> kealper i have this, any idea why no user name: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire in United Kingdom
#1254 [09:03] <mitpatterson_> err, not that
#1255 [09:04] <Thoatt> fail lol
#1256 [09:04] <Kealper> it was either a bad handshake, handshake timeout, or no handshake at all
#1257 [09:04] <Thoatt> he knows
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#1259 [09:04] <Thoatt> I told him
#1260 [09:04] <mitpatterson_> 01@112.205.67.70) has joined #minecrafthelp
#1261 [09:04] * Thoatt taddles
#1261 [09:04] <Thoatt> :)
#1262 [09:04] <mitpatterson_> grr copy and paste failing, grrr
#1263 [09:04] <Kealper> what i said just above
#1264 [09:04] <Thoatt> Mine works pretty good wouldn't you say? :)
#1265 [09:04] <mitpatterson_> funny thing is i don't see any connection before that...
#1266 [09:05] <mitpatterson_> just the lost connection
#1267 [09:05] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: Is your server listed on mcserverlist.net or similar?
#1268 [09:05] <Kealper> it won't show a connection accept if no handshake is given
#1269 [09:05] <Thoatt> 09:03:38 <@Kealper> it was either a bad handshake, handshake timeout, or no handshake at all
#1270 [09:05] <Kealper> and yeah, what Morrolan said
#1271 [09:05] <mitpatterson_> Morrolan, i don't think... it was just set up a few days ago
#1272 [09:05] <Thoatt> yeah... what that one guy said
#1273 [09:05] <Kealper> if something just connects and disconnects without sending anything, it'll do that
#1274 [09:05] <Thoatt> hmmm... did you list it anywhere? lol
#1275 [09:06] <mitpatterson_> other than in IRC no
#1276 [09:06] <Morrolan> It could be that someone listed it. :/
#1277 [09:06] <Thoatt> might be a bot trollin' irc IPs xD
#1278 [09:06] <mitpatterson_> lol, possible
#1279 [09:06] <Morrolan> Might want to search for it in some serverlists.
#1280 [09:06] <Thoatt> 09:03:38 <@Kealper> it was either a bad handshake, handshake timeout, or no handshake at all
#1281 [09:06] <Thoatt> copy fail
#1282 [09:07] <Thoatt> Your search - 65.186.xx.xxx Minecraft - did not match any documents.
#1283 [09:07] <Thoatt> interesting
#1284 [09:07] <mitpatterson_> huh?
#1285 [09:07] <Thoatt> nothing lol
#1286 [09:07] <mitpatterson_> where did you search that at?
#1287 [09:07] <Thoatt> robots.txt protected pages ftw
#1288 [09:07] <Thoatt> the googlez
#1289 [09:07] <mitpatterson_> ah
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#1291 [09:09] <mitpatterson_> oh well, not that inportant, just odd
#1292 [09:10] <MCMAUser_865> How can I create a whitelist on my server using McMyAdmin?
#1293 [09:10] <Morrolan> Might want to ask in #mcmyadmin
#1294 [09:11] <Morrolan> If they're not asleep, that is. ^^
#1295 [09:11] <MCMAUser_865> Thank you. Eh, IRCs are confusing to me.
#1296 [09:11] * tweep is back
#1296 [09:11] <tweep> right, unity is really pissing me off
#1297 [09:11] <tweep> back to gnome
#1298 [09:12] <Thoatt> MCMAUser_865: in the web interface? or using the file?
#1299 [09:15] <Thoatt> nvm then...
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#1301 [09:18] <Thoatt> It'd only take about 32gb to host a 250 player server...
#1302 [09:18] <Thoatt> decent...
#1303 [09:18] <Thoatt> 32 gb of ram*
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#1305 [09:20] <Morrolan> Right ^^
#1306 [09:21] <Thoatt> It's a lot less than I thought... and it's not /that/ expensive lol
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#1308 [09:22] <Morrolan> Yeah, are you sure though? Cause it seems a really low amount to me. :/
#1309 [09:22] <mitpatterson_> but how much internetz do you need....
#1310 [09:22] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: ~75 upload
#1311 [09:22] <Thoatt> /download
#1312 [09:22] <Thoatt> Morrolan: Pretty sure lol
#1313 [09:22] <mitpatterson_> 75 mbps?
#1314 [09:22] <Thoatt> ja
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#1317 [09:23] <Thoatt> Das ist uber-gut ja? ja ja? :)
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#1323 [09:27] <mitpatterson_> man i'm tired
#1324 [09:27] <Thoatt> lol same...
#1325 [09:27] <Thoatt> but I have to stay up now :P
#1326 [09:27] <mitpatterson_> same here
#1327 [09:27] <Thoatt> until tonight :/
#1328 [09:28] <TheNytangel> im also tired, and i also have to stay up
#1329 [09:28] <Thoatt> Join the club :)
#1330 [09:28] <TheNytangel> but i can take a nap later :)
#1331 [09:28] <mitpatterson_> its 9:30 am, so i got until tonight to stay up
#1332 [09:28] <TheNytangel> but heck, i never take naps
#1333 [09:28] <mitpatterson_> i just woke up a littlbe bit ago
#1334 [09:28] <Thoatt> lol.
#1335 [09:28] <TheNytangel> its 8:30 am here
#1336 [09:28] <Thoatt> Das ist uber-gut ja? ja ja? :)
#1337 [09:28] <mitpatterson_> and i need iron, lol]
#1338 [09:28] <mitpatterson_> huh WTF Thoatt
#1339 [09:28] <Thoatt> lol
#1340 [09:28] <Thoatt> too many up enters
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#1342 [09:28] <mitpatterson_> lmao
#1343 [09:29] <Thoatt> tried to get to a /clear
#1344 [09:29] <Thoatt> because I'm a lazy ass like that
#1345 [09:29] <mitpatterson_> i need to make a little mine track to get back to my main house, but i need tracks, and need iron
#1346 [09:30] <mitpatterson_> only have like 3 iron, and the map has like no iron it
#1347 [09:30] <Thoatt> which map? lol
#1348 [09:30] <Thoatt> the server?
#1349 [09:30] <mitpatterson_> no, single player
#1350 [09:30] <Thoatt> oh... lol
#1351 [09:30] <Thoatt> nvm then xD
#1352 [09:31] <TheNytangel> in mine, i have a HUGE cave at the end of one of my mining tunnels
#1353 [09:31] <TheNytangel> i got lost
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#1355 [09:31] <TheNytangel> and came out with a full stack and a half of iron
#1356 [09:31] <mitpatterson_> if iit was server "/give mitpatterson 265 64
#1357 [09:31] <mitpatterson_> "
#1358 [09:32] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: y u no invedit xD
#1359 [09:32] <Thoatt> lol
#1360 [09:32] <mitpatterson_> how do i do that? and can it bork the game? as you know i have a history with borking maps
#1361 [09:32] <Thoatt> rofl...
#1362 [09:32] <TheNytangel> well
#1363 [09:32] <TheNytangel> i have to go poop now
#1364 [09:32] <mitpatterson_> lol, TMI
#1365 [09:32] <Thoatt> just back up the map if you are worried
#1366 [09:33] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15921
#1367 [09:33] <TheNytangel> my dad's hashbrowns are so buttery, they go right through me
#1368 [09:33] <Thoatt> good to know TheNytangel
#1369 [09:33] <TheNytangel> brb
#1370 [09:33] <Thoatt> Let us know how it goes will ya? :)
#1371 [09:34] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, do i just need to back up the "world" folder in side of "saves"
#1372 [09:34] <Thoatt> yeah
#1373 [09:34] <mitpatterson_> k
#1374 [09:34] <Thoatt> or just make a rar of the saves folder with a timestamp on it like I do lol
#1375 [09:34] <mitpatterson_> k
#1376 [09:35] <mitpatterson_> now so even if i borked this map beyond all belfe and the minecraft.exe some how, all i would have to do is redownload the exe and put the map folder back right?
#1377 [09:35] <Thoatt> *facepaln*
#1378 [09:35] <Thoatt> -n+m
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#1380 [09:35] <mitpatterson_> just asking
#1381 [09:35] <mitpatterson_> lol
#1382 [09:35] <TheNytangel> back
#1383 [09:36] <mitpatterson_> that was fast, lol
#1384 [09:36] <Thoatt> mitpatterson_: http://i.imgur.com/HZRkC.jpg
#1385 [09:36] <TheNytangel> like i said
#1386 [09:36] <TheNytangel> butter
#1387 [09:36] <TheNytangel> :P
#1388 [09:36] <mitpatterson_> lol Thoatt never seen that facepalm before
#1389 [09:36] <TheNytangel> <TheNytangel> my dad's hashbrowns are so buttery, they go right through me
#1390 [09:36] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, i'm just checking as, i've spent a lot of hours in the last week on my single player
#1391 [09:37] <SlashLife> Thoatt: Whoa! Where did you find *that* sculpture of sideshow bob?
#1392 [09:38] <Thoatt> SlashLife: The internets!
#1393 [09:38] <SlashLife> No shit!
#1394 [09:38] <Thoatt> nope! none at all!
#1395 [09:38] <Thoatt> ask TheNytangel for some though
#1396 [09:38] <SlashLife> Good. Good.
#1397 [09:38] <TheNytangel> wut
#1398 [09:38] <SlashLife> Shit stinks.
#1399 [09:38] <Thoatt> lol
#1400 [09:38] <mitpatterson_> Thoatt, quick question, can the inventory editor be used while the game is running(if i want to live on the edge)
#1401 [09:39] <Thoatt> you'd have to log out of the world, edit inv, log back into world
#1402 [09:39] <oldtopmanserver> SlashLife: Congratulations! You must not be a dog
#1403 [09:39] <mitpatterson_> ah
#1404 [09:39] <mitpatterson_> but i don't have to edit minecraft completey? just "save to title"
#1405 [09:39] <Thoatt> correct
#1406 [09:39] <Thoatt> assuming you mean exit.
#1407 [09:40] <SlashLife> oldtopmanserver: If I as a dog I'd know a cute girl to get with.
#1408 [09:40] <mitpatterson_> ah, yah, "save and exit to title" or what ever
#1409 [09:40] <SlashLife> Though to be honest she kisses with waaaaaaay to much tongue. x)
#1410 [09:40] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf7TF2D8tOI
#1411 [09:40] <Thoatt> SlashLife: I c wut you did thar
#1412 [09:40] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/fK43W.jpg
#1413 [09:40] <SlashLife> So I guess I'd rather try with her owner.
#1414 [09:40] <oldtopmanserver> SlashLife: XDDDD
#1415 [09:41] <Thoatt> nrn
#1416 [09:41] <Thoatt> err... brb rather.
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#1418 [09:43] <mitpatterson_> yah, i didn't bork my world
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#1420 [09:44] <TheNytangel> >.>
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#1422 [09:52] <mitpatterson_> how long does a power mine cart run before running out of fuel? or does it never run out?
#1423 [09:53] <[z]> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Powered_Minecart
#1424 [09:53] <[z]> "One piece of coal seems to power the minecart for 4 minutes. Distance varies based on ramps and other objects on the track."
#1425 [09:54] <mitpatterson_> ah, didn't see that(was expecting that info higher up, lol)
#1426 [09:54] <mitpatterson_> thanks
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#1433 [10:03] <Thoatt> k back
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#1435 [10:03] <Thoatt> with breakfast :D
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#1437 [10:07] <Thoatt> /window move left
#1438 [10:08] <Thoatt> ffs... goddamn spacebar..
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#1450 [10:40] <thoselulz> anyone tried P8P67 ethernet with minecraft???
#1451 [10:42] <thoselulz> its realtek 8111E btw
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#1453 [10:42] <veasmkii> Can anyone give me an example motd= server.properties line? Everytime I set it nothing is displayed on login
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#1455 [10:43] <Thoatt|Shows> motd=Welcome to the BWG server\!@@Type /spawn to read all the info signs@if you have not done so already\!
#1456 [10:43] <Thoatt|Shows> @@ = newline
#1457 [10:44] * Thoatt|Shows is afk now
#1457 [10:45] <veasmkii> thanks, i'll try it
#1458 [10:49] <veasmkii> i've tried setting that, but it does not display when i log into my server :)
#1459 [10:49] <veasmkii> does it require any other settings to enable it? such as public server
#1460 [10:58] <thoselulz> anyone tried P8P67 ethernet with minecraft?
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#1464 [11:22] <Guest3949> hi anyone about who could answer a question about servers?
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#1466 [11:27] * Cyberstorm can guess
#1466 [11:29] <Thoatt|Shows> ??> Guest3949 ask
#1467 [11:29] <VoxelHead> Guest3949: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1468 [11:29] <VoxelHead> Guest3949: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1471 [11:35] <Phenex> http://mibpaste.com/4Yt2HD
#1472 [11:35] <Phenex> Would someone mind telling me there opinion of that computer and if it's minecraft capable / worth 250 bucks?
#1473 [11:36] * Phenex pokes Xales
#1473 [11:37] <Thoatt|Shows> Phenex: yes/yes
#1474 [11:38] <SlashLife> Phenex: "Why don't you just try?"
#1475 [11:38] <Phenex> Because its not mine
#1476 [11:38] <Phenex> and I am deciding whether I want to buy it
#1477 [11:38] <Thoatt|Shows> it is...
#1478 [11:38] <Phenex> Im not overly worried about minecraft capable
#1479 [11:38] <Phenex> I just dont want to be ripped off
#1480 [11:38] <Thoatt|Shows> it is...
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#1482 [11:39] <Thoatt|Shows> 100% positive.
#1483 [11:39] <Thoatt|Shows> and it's a good deal for 250...
#1484 [11:39] <Kade> pretty much
#1485 [11:40] <SlashLife> Well, the OS on its own is worth half that price.
#1486 [11:40] <Kade> and my other PC is pretty similar to that and runs minecraft perfectly fine
#1487 [11:40] <Thoatt|Shows> loool, prob not legit...
#1488 [11:40] <Thoatt|Shows> osk = slow typing =/
#1489 [11:41] <Phenex> whats not legit?
#1490 [11:41] <SlashLife> Thoatt|Shows: But announced as such, so -at least in German law- he'd be eligible to get a valid and legal Win7 Ultimate license.
#1491 [11:41] <SlashLife> Might be an OEM license, but still ...
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#1493 [11:41] <Thoatt|Shows> the windows is prob not legit
#1494 [11:41] <Thoatt|Shows> damn slow osk :/
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#1496 [11:41] <Phenex> Can you tell via the dxdiag?
#1497 [11:42] <Thoatt|Shows> nope
#1498 [11:42] <Phenex> Does it really matter if the OS isn't legit>
#1499 [11:42] <Thoatt|Shows> not really
#1500 [11:42] <Phenex> Okay
#1501 [11:42] <Thoatt|Shows> as long as it works :P
#1502 [11:42] <Phenex> I dont use customer support and all that jazz
#1503 [11:42] <Phenex> I am going to test the computer later today
#1504 [11:43] <Phenex> and buy it if everything is up to par
#1505 [11:43] <Thoatt|Shows> :)
#1506 [11:43] <Phenex> I thought it was a really ood deal
#1507 [11:43] <Phenex> Xales thought it might be a scam
#1508 [11:43] <Phenex> lkol
#1509 [11:43] <Thoatt|Shows> inc. monitor?
#1510 [11:43] <Phenex> no
#1511 [11:43] <Thoatt|Shows> =/
#1512 [11:43] <Thoatt|Shows> lol
#1513 [11:43] <Phenex> surround sound speakers though
#1514 [11:43] <Phenex> I have a 32 in I use lol
#1515 [11:43] <Phenex> I dont need another moniutor
#1516 [11:43] <Thoatt|Shows> still prob worth ~250
#1517 [11:43] <SlashLife> I disagree with his graphics ssettings, but that's not something you can hold against the machine.
#1518 [11:44] <Guest3949> Do I need to purchase minecraft to beable to run the latest server?
#1519 [11:44] <Phenex> How so?
#1520 [11:44] <Phenex> You nered to buy minecraft to play the downloaded game.
#1521 [11:44] <Thoatt|Shows> Guest3949: no
#1522 [11:44] <Thoatt|Shows> only to play
#1523 [11:44] <SlashLife> He has >1.5G of shared graphic memory.
#1524 [11:44] <Phenex> alll updates are free afterwords
#1525 [11:44] <Guest3949> Thoatt|Shows where do I find the latest update server files?
#1526 [11:45] <Phenex> Is that bad?
#1527 [11:45] <SlashLife> Which is *permanently* deduced from the available overall memory.
#1528 [11:45] <Phenex> Could the card run the game no problem/
#1529 [11:45] <Phenex> ?
#1530 [11:45] <Phenex> Is my main question
#1531 [11:45] <SlashLife> Well, instead of the 4GB builtin only 2.5GB are available for the operating system.
#1532 [11:45] <Thoatt|Shows> Guest3949: on minecraft.net
#1533 [11:45] <SlashLife> Minecraft doesn't take much to render.
#1534 [11:45] <Kade> well its not drastically dissimilar from a card I used to play the game
#1535 [11:45] <Thoatt|Shows> yes Phenex
#1536 [11:45] <SlashLife> Or at least it shouldn't. x)
#1537 [11:45] <Phenex> Okay cool.
#1538 [11:45] <SlashLife> It's only a bunch of blocks.
#1539 [11:45] <Phenex> well I can upgrade the card if need be
#1540 [11:46] <Guest3949> Thoatt|Shows I only see the option to download the old server files the guys playing on the server say its old I would like 1.4
#1541 [11:46] <Phenex> the computer itself is pretty decent for 250
#1542 [11:46] <Phenex> I am asking for a price drop though
#1543 [11:46] <Phenex> it had a 1tb HDD
#1544 [11:46] <Phenex> but he wants to keep that and give me500GB
#1545 [11:46] <SlashLife> The number of triangles is kept low and you can easily do a lot or prerendering deduction.
#1546 [11:46] <Phenex> think I could drop him down a little?
#1547 [11:46] <Thoatt|Shows> Guest3949: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1301845587560
#1548 [11:46] <SlashLife> Not really.
#1549 [11:46] <SlashLife> But yeah, if he keeps the HDD then there goes your Windows.
#1550 [11:47] <Guest3949> Thank you Thoatt|Shows
#1551 [11:47] <Thoatt|Shows> np
#1552 [11:47] <Thoatt|Shows> back to shows :)
#1553 [11:47] <Phenex> hmph
#1554 [11:47] <SlashLife> You could ask him not to include an HDD at all and have the price dropped a bit, then getting one yourself
#1555 [11:47] <Phenex> I should make sure t has the OS on the |HSS then
#1556 [11:48] <Phenex> that is also potential
#1557 [11:48] <SlashLife> Although I'm a bit surprised ...
#1558 [11:48] <SlashLife> SCSI HDDs?
#1559 [11:48] <Phenex> not sure what that means lol
#1560 [11:49] <SlashLife> Uhh ... it's the physical interface for the HDD. The plugs and protocol.
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#1562 [11:49] <SlashLife> SCSI is usually considered "server quality".
#1563 [11:49] <Phenex> ahh okay
#1564 [11:49] <Phenex> Interesting
#1565 [11:49] <Phenex> The guy said he builds a lot of computers, maybe he had a server going at one time
#1566 [11:50] <Phenex> this one is "sitting in a corner doing nothing"
#1567 [11:50] <SlashLife> They are supposed to be better (as in: more stable in the long run) ... but they come at a higher price.
#1568 [11:50] <Phenex> Thats good then
#1569 [11:51] <Thoatt|Shows> it's sata, not scsi :)
#1570 [11:51] <Phenex> Wont argue with that
#1571 [11:51] <Phenex> lol
#1572 [11:51] <SlashLife> Ok, they aren't *that* much more expensive anymore.
#1573 [11:51] <Phenex> Regardless
#1574 [11:51] <Phenex> This is a good buy for a decent computer
#1575 [11:51] <Thoatt|Shows> yep
#1576 [11:51] <Phenex> thatI will be using for Minecraft, and various work
#1577 [11:52] <Phenex> Throat, Ive been trying to get this damn game running for so long!@
#1578 [11:52] <Thoatt|Shows> >.<
#1579 [11:52] <Phenex> Spent 7 hours in here doing terminal commands trying to get it towkr
#1580 [11:52] <SlashLife> Mh. You're right. It *is* an S-ATA drive. O_o
#1581 [11:52] <Thoatt|Shows> it's thoatt, no r
#1582 [11:52] <Phenex> just to hear, "buy a new pc"
#1583 [11:52] <Phenex> sorry
#1584 [11:52] <adamkex> on the server, Used memory 29%, (250MB) of 881MB
#1585 [11:52] <SlashLife> Why the heck do you get a "SCSI device driver" for S-ATA devices?
#1586 [11:52] <Phenex> I am almost 8 feet from my monitor
#1587 [11:53] <adamkex> does this mean i can run a server on less than 512mb of ram?
#1588 [11:53] <SlashLife> Phenex: Then scrap all that server grade quality HDD talk.
#1589 [11:53] <Phenex> my brain automatically put an R in there cuz it looks like that from here
#1590 [11:53] <SlashLife> I misread my search results
#1591 [11:53] <Phenex> No worries
#1592 [11:53] <Phenex> Its still a decent HSS
#1593 [11:53] <Phenex> HDD*
#1594 [11:53] <Thoatt|Shows> SlashLife: it's windows and you expect it to be correct? lol
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#1596 [11:53] <Phenex> Anyways, I am off to work. Chances are I'll have a new pc when I come on next.
#1597 [11:53] <SlashLife> Thoatt|Shows: Yes, I do.
#1598 [11:54] <Phenex> Thanks for the help, Cheers!
#1599 [11:54] <Thoatt|Shows> kk hf Phenex
#1600 [11:54] <Phenex> heh
#1601 [11:54] <Phenex> this work is no fun
#1602 [11:54] <Thoatt|Shows> :p
#1603 [11:54] <Phenex> When I am done school and building houses, THEN it will be fun
#1604 [11:54] <Phenex> Part time work in college sucks
#1605 [11:54] <Phenex> Minecraft solves that :)
#1606 [11:54] <Thoatt|Shows> lol true
#1607 [11:55] <Thoatt|Shows> xd
#1608 [11:55] <Phenex> Build my boss and cover him in lava!~!!!!!!!!
#1609 [11:55] <Thoatt|Shows> lolz
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#1615 [12:24] <aetherian> good morrow
#1616 [12:24] <gPad2002> Good.. Day.
#1617 [12:24] <gPad2002> :P
#1618 [12:28] <SlashLife> MC might be a good thing to do for me at "work". x)
#1619 [12:28] <gPad2002> :P
#1620 [12:29] <aetherian> heh
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#1625 [12:51] <Ummon> hello
#1626 [12:51] * BarryCarlyon waves
#1626 [12:52] <Ummon> i've got some problems running minecraft classic
#1627 [12:52] <gPad2002> ?? ask
#1628 [12:52] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1629 [12:52] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1630 [12:53] * gPad2002 pokes Ummon
#1630 [12:53] <Ummon> okay, excuse me ^^"
#1631 [12:54] <Ummon> i was just searching for the error log, but it took some more time than i thought
#1632 [12:55] <Ummon> it won't launch, and at the end of the log, it said this : Exception : java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.lwjgl.util.applet.AppletLoader
#1633 [12:56] <gPad2002> How are you launching it?
#1634 [12:57] <Ummon> from my browser, i go to minecraft.net, then click on "single player" on the bottom and on the right of the page
#1635 [12:57] <gPad2002> Classic or SMP?
#1636 [12:57] <Ummon> classic
#1637 [12:58] <gPad2002> I would think that you need to Redownload LWJGL
#1638 [12:58] <gPad2002> So go to %APPDATA%\.minecraft
#1639 [12:58] <Ummon> LWJGL ?
#1640 [12:58] <gPad2002> Go into bin
#1641 [12:58] <gPad2002> And remove the LWJGL jar
#1642 [12:58] <gPad2002> When you try to launch it next, it'll download it
#1643 [12:59] <gPad2002> Yeah, its some library Notch uses
#1644 [12:59] <Ummon> hmm...
#1645 [12:59] <Ummon> i don't have anything in this folder, except minecraft.jar oO
#1646 [13:00] <gPad2002> Go back one
#1647 [13:00] <gPad2002> And tell me what you have
#1648 [13:00] <Ummon> i'm on debian actually, and back, that's my home folder
#1649 [13:01] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1650 [13:01] <gPad2002> Brb
#1651 [13:01] <Ummon> okay
#1652 [13:02] <gPad2002> Back
#1653 [13:02] <gPad2002> I would remove the .minecraft folder
#1654 [13:02] <gPad2002> If you don't have anything you need to keep
#1655 [13:02] <aetherian> after backing up .minecraft/saves
#1656 [13:02] <aetherian> if you have them
#1657 [13:02] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1658 [13:03] <Ummon> i just have the jar, i didn't lanch minecraft (didn't buy it yet)
#1659 [13:03] <aetherian> that would explain it
#1660 [13:04] <gPad2002> aetherian: Classic
#1661 [13:04] <aetherian> gPad2002: oh
#1662 [13:04] * aetherian looks up
#1662 [13:05] <Ummon> same error as before :/
#1663 [13:06] <gPad2002> See if you can find LWJGL in apt-get and apt-cache
#1664 [13:07] <Ummon> found :)
#1665 [13:07] <Ummon> liblwjgl-java-jni - Lightweight Java Game Library (jni)
#1666 [13:07] <Ummon> liblwjgl-java - Lightweight Java Game Library
#1667 [13:08] <Ummon> (sorry for the mistakes, i'm french...)
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#1669 [13:10] <gPad2002> Try installing that
#1670 [13:11] <Ummon> the second package is just installed
#1671 [13:11] <gPad2002> If that doesn't work,
#1672 [13:11] <Ummon> shall i install the first as well ?
#1673 [13:11] <gPad2002> I have no idea, sorry >.>
#1674 [13:12] <gPad2002> TobiX: You any ideas?
#1675 [13:13] <Ummon> il still won't launch :/
#1676 [13:13] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1677 [13:13] <gPad2002> Sorry man, I have no idea
#1678 [13:14] <gPad2002> Maybe GreyVulpine or one of the other ops will know
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#1680 [13:14] <Ummon> okay, no problem
#1681 [13:14] <Ummon> thanks for helping
#1682 [13:17] <BarryCarlyon> Which version of java you running sun java or open java?
#1683 [13:17] <Ummon> sun
#1684 [13:18] <BarryCarlyon> Thats my idea out the window :_D
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#1686 [13:18] <TobiX> Ummon: Minecraft should install its own LWJGL, you don't need to install the distro package...
#1687 [13:18] <gPad2002> TobiX: It isn't.
#1688 [13:19] <Ummon> TobiX: i want to play the classic version
#1689 [13:19] <TobiX> Ummon: The interesting thing in a Java error is not the end but the start
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#1691 [13:19] <mib_ev6mex> hi
#1692 [13:19] <mib_ev6mex> i need help with the minecraft resetting spawnpoint location]
#1693 [13:19] <TobiX> Ummon: classic offline?
#1694 [13:20] <gPad2002> ./setspawn
#1695 [13:20] <mib_ev6mex> yes offline
#1696 [13:20] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1697 [13:20] <mib_ev6mex> this is when i sleep yes?
#1698 [13:20] <gPad2002> mib_ev6mex: Pretty sure you need a bed
#1699 [13:20] <Ummon> TobiX: single player, if that's what you mean
#1700 [13:20] <mib_ev6mex> i've tried sleeping in numerous beds, but when i die i re spawn in my initial re spawn point
#1701 [13:21] <mib_ev6mex> * Sleeping in a bed now resets your spawn position beta 1.4
#1702 [13:22] <aetherian> it's a bug as of right now.
#1703 [13:22] <Morrolan> Did you complete the sleep cycle? (Aka not getting disturbed by mobs or leaving bed before dawn)
#1704 [13:22] <Morrolan> Oh, if it's a bug then nevermind.
#1705 [13:22] <mib_ev6mex> ahh right okay and yes, i did complete it
#1706 [13:24] * MBArceus [MBArceus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1707 [13:24] <MBArceus> hello?
#1708 [13:24] <MBArceus> Nobody?
#1709 [13:24] <MBArceus> fff-
#1710 [13:24] <Morrolan> Yea?
#1711 [13:24] <Morrolan> Some patience will bring you a long way, buddy.
#1712 [13:24] <MBArceus> :D
#1713 [13:24] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1714 [13:24] <mib_ev6mex> okayy thankyou:)
#1715 [13:24] <SlashLife> MBArceus: You didn't even ask a question ...
#1716 [13:24] <MBArceus> Only I was on the "chatting" list at the time...
#1717 [13:24] <SlashLife> This is a help channel, not some idle chatter.
#1718 [13:25] <SlashLife> So if you want something: ASK!
#1719 [13:25] <MBArceus> I have a question,
#1720 [13:25] <SlashLife> I didn't figure.
#1721 [13:25] <Morrolan> That's normal, since noone of us said anything after you've joined. Therefore Mibbit assumed everyone was afk. ;)
#1722 [13:25] <gPad2002> ??> MBArceus ask
#1723 [13:25] <VoxelHead> MBArceus: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1724 [13:25] <VoxelHead> MBArceus: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1725 [13:25] <Morrolan> Anyway, let's hear your question. :)
#1726 [13:26] <MBArceus> what are the most popular mods that don't require ModLoader? I can barely manage ModLoader to work (I get a black screen) but I can work TFC's ModManager
#1727 [13:26] <Morrolan> Euh, that's a hard question. :/
#1728 [13:26] <Morrolan> All mods I am using require modloader. ./
#1729 [13:26] <gPad2002> There are very few mods that work with 1.4 AFAIK
#1730 [13:26] <Morrolan> And what gPad said, obviously.
#1731 [13:26] <MBArceus> :|
#1732 [13:26] <xolotl> MBArceus: You may want to try #risucraft btw
#1733 [13:26] <xolotl> MBArceus: Technically this channel doesn't offer mod support
#1734 [13:26] <VoxelHead> The best kind of this
#1735 [13:26] <MBArceus> risucraft?
#1736 [13:26] <Morrolan> Actually, is Modloader even updated yet?
#1737 [13:27] <gPad2002> Morrolan: Dnt think so no
#1738 [13:27] <xolotl> MBArceus: yes, #risucraft
#1739 [13:27] <gPad2002> Don't*
#1740 [13:27] * TobiX wonders where classic saves its files...
#1740 [13:27] <gPad2002> .minecraft/saves
#1741 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> classic
#1742 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> not beta
#1743 [13:27] <gPad2002> Beta uses worlds
#1744 [13:28] <Morrolan> gPad: I just checked, and a ModLoader beta was released yesterday.
#1745 [13:28] <TobiX> Ummon: Debian? stable? OpenJDK oder Sun JDK?
#1746 [13:29] <TobiX> Uh, holy crap: /tmp/www.minecraft.net/Minecraft/ - that's... nice...
#1747 [13:30] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1748 [13:30] <TobiX> And /home/tobias/.icedteaplugin/cache/https/s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/classic - Bah!
#1749 [13:30] <gPad2002> Fail :P
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#1752 [13:31] <TobiX> Ummon: If there is a /tmp/www.minecraft.net - remove it and try again...
#1753 [13:31] <Morrolan> Forum is being slow right now. I hope it won't die or we'll have a lot of "OMG wai is not working!"
#1754 [13:31] <claudeio9> So I just started my own server, but i'm wondering how do I grant build permissions and not full op?
#1755 [13:32] <Morrolan> Claudeio9: You'll need a server mod like bukkit for this.
#1756 [13:32] <gPad2002> claudeio9: I take it that's not vanilla..
#1757 [13:32] <Morrolan> And some of its plugins.
#1758 [13:32] <claudeio9> hmm where can i download that?
#1759 [13:32] <gPad2002> #bukkit
#1760 [13:33] <Morrolan> bukkit.org
#1761 [13:33] <claudeio9> awesome, tnx
#1762 [13:33] <Morrolan> And for support join the channel gPad mentioned. :)
#1763 [13:33] * gPad2002 wonders if the bot is still working
#1763 [13:33] <gPad2002> ~speak
#1764 [13:33] * VoxelHead wonders gPad2002 back with a teamviewer
#1764 [13:33] <gPad2002> http://ci.bukkit,org
#1765 [13:33] <gPad2002> Fail
#1766 [13:33] <Ummon> TobiX: debian sid
#1767 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> You put in a comma org
#1768 [13:33] <gPad2002> http://ci.bukkit.org
#1769 [13:33] <McPlusPlus> "Dashboard [Jenkins]" at ci.bukkit.org
#1770 [13:33] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#1771 [13:33] <gPad2002> Yeah it is
#1772 [13:34] <gPad2002> Its been having trouble lately
#1773 [13:34] <TehRainbowGuy> Hi when I try to play minecraft on a external monitor I get the black screen of death, any ideas? terminal output here -->http://mibpaste.com/PWBIsa
#1774 [13:34] <Ummon> and i don't have a /tmp/www.minecraft.net
#1775 [13:34] <Ummon> the error log is there : http://pastebin.com/gNJaBJUM
#1776 [13:35] <gPad2002> Class cannot be foud
#1777 [13:35] <gPad2002> Hmm
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#1779 [13:37] <Morrolan> RainbowGuy: And it only happens if you try to play it on your external monitor?
#1780 [13:37] <TehRainbowGuy> yes
#1781 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Minecraft crashing on a second monitor, but not when played on a primary?
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#1783 [13:39] * GreyVulpine pokes Morrolan
#1783 [13:39] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Yes..
#1784 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Known issue, has been for quite a few releases now
#1785 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> No none fix, other than, don't play on a second monitor
#1786 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> none = known
#1787 [13:40] <gPad2002> I've never had that problem..
#1788 [13:40] <Morrolan> Huh, that's a rather strange issue though. :/
#1789 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Affects certain macs mostly
#1790 [13:40] <gPad2002> Oh, well mac
#1791 [13:40] <gPad2002> Figures
#1792 [13:40] <TehRainbowGuy> Thats a pain... I have a tiny screen on my netbook :(
#1793 [13:41] <gPad2002> Ah
#1794 [13:41] <gPad2002> Net book
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#1796 [13:41] <gPad2002> That could also hinder
#1797 [13:41] <Mirrow> help :(
#1798 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> If you tell us what kind of help you need...
#1799 [13:42] <Mirrow> I am a Mac-User
#1800 [13:42] <gPad2002> ??> Mirrow ask
#1801 [13:42] <VoxelHead> Mirrow: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1802 [13:42] <VoxelHead> Mirrow: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1803 [13:42] <TehRainbowGuy> Thank god I only need to use this pc for a couple more weeks :)
#1804 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> My condolences Mirrow.
#1805 [13:42] <Mirrow> Minecraft don't use my mouse
#1806 [13:42] <gPad2002> ^ :P
#1807 [13:42] <gPad2002> Hm
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#1809 [13:42] <gPad2002> Not capturing mouse
#1810 [13:43] <gPad2002> That is.. Odd
#1811 [13:43] <Mirrow> it's just after the last update
#1812 [13:43] <Mirrow> -.- FAIL!
#1813 [13:43] <Mirrow> I HATE updates -.-
#1814 [13:43] <TehRainbowGuy> Have you tryed playing in full screen mode?
#1815 [13:43] <VoxelHead> Not without lubricant.
#1816 [13:43] <thoselulz> anyone tried an Asus P8P67 realtek onboard ethernet with minecraft?
#1817 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> thoselulz - What's the problem exactly?
#1818 [13:44] <thoselulz> buying a motherboard
#1819 [13:44] <thoselulz> wondering if it'll work for online
#1820 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Probably thoselulz.
#1821 [13:44] <thoselulz> since a LOT of people have bought that kind of motherboard, I though someone would know
#1822 [13:44] <gPad2002> thoselulz: Nothing to do with MC really
#1823 [13:44] <gPad2002> More like drivers
#1824 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1825 [13:44] <Mirrow> nop, no fullscreen
#1826 [13:45] <Mirrow> I take Grey Vulpin in the privat
#1827 [13:45] <gPad2002> That isn't a good idea
#1828 [13:45] <thoselulz> I'd think MC could eventually be coded to not trigger the problem, though
#1829 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1830 [13:45] <thoselulz> even if Realtek sucks
#1831 [13:45] <gPad2002> Please keep it in here, Mirrow
#1832 [13:45] <gPad2002> So everyone can contribute
#1833 [13:46] <TehRainbowGuy> Hmm... Try deleting you'r minecraft and downloading a fresh copy Mirrow
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#1835 [13:46] <Mirrow> okay
#1836 [13:46] <Mirrow> or that way
#1837 [13:46] <Mirrow> *looking for the Rocket Luncher*
#1838 [13:47] <TehRainbowGuy> O_o
#1839 [13:47] <thoselulz> Is the Realtek problem seemingly random, or do some NIC models always not work
#1840 [13:47] <gPad2002> Never had a problem with realtek stuff
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#1842 [13:48] <TehRainbowGuy> thoselulz, It shouldent affect minecraft whatever network card you get
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#1844 [13:49] <gPad2002> Provided the system can use it
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#1846 [13:49] <Mirrow> nope -.- doesn't work
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#1848 [13:49] <souljasoul23> I need an admin
#1849 [13:49] <Mirrow> anybody speaking german in here?
#1850 [13:49] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1851 [13:49] <souljasoul23> any admins i can talk to?
#1852 [13:49] <Ummon> Mirrow: i've learned german at school
#1853 [13:49] <souljasoul23> My MC account got hacked
#1854 [13:50] <Mirrow> killed the Game and fresh downloaded
#1855 [13:50] <Ummon> if it helps...
#1856 [13:50] <gPad2002> souljasoul23: Topic.
#1857 [13:50] <Mirrow> but the problem's still present
#1858 [13:50] <gPad2002> ?? Index
#1859 [13:50] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1860 [13:50] * TehRainbowGuy [TehRainbowGuy@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1861 [13:50] <gPad2002> ??> souljasoul23 mojang/twitter
#1862 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> souljasoul23 - Send an email to payment@mojang.com with your issue
#1863 [13:50] <VoxelHead> souljasoul23: (mojang/twitter) There is a compilation of the Twitter feeds of all Mojang staff at http://www.twitter.com/DopeGhoti/mojang
#1864 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> We are community-run support here, and have no affiliation with Mojang or its staff.
#1865 [13:51] <gPad2002> That FAQ is never what I expect o\
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#1867 [13:53] <thoselulz> Okay, thanks guys.
#1868 [13:53] <Cue> Do you guys provide support for map viewers at all, say perhaps why our Overviewer render is coming out like this: http://loadingchunks.net/maps/survival/ ?
#1869 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we really don't Cue.
#1870 [13:53] <thoselulz> I guess spending $30-$40 extra to get a higher end motherboard which comes with Intel ethernet is a silly idea then, lol.
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#1872 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Cue - What exactly do you mean though?
#1873 [13:54] <Cue> GreyVulpine: It's only rendered that square of the map, it's way bigger than that
#1874 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> That.. square?
#1875 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> I'm seeing a huge world with that link
#1876 [13:55] <Cue> screenshot?
#1877 [13:55] <Cue> All I see is a square of it :<
#1878 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Sec
#1879 [13:55] <thoselulz> whoa, that's massive
#1880 [13:55] <Cue> It really isn't all that big, I've seen bigger :/
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#1882 [13:56] <TobiX> Ummon: How did you install Java? The preferred way on Debian is to install openjdk-6-jre and icedtea6-plugin
#1883 [13:56] <Ummon> i've installed both of the packages
#1884 [13:57] <TobiX> Ummon: What is "java -version"?
#1885 [13:57] <Ummon> java version "1.6.0_18"
#1886 [13:57] <Ummon> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8.5) (6b18-1.8.5-1)
#1887 [13:57] <Ummon> OpenJDK Client VM (build 16.0-b13, mixed mode, sharing)
#1888 [13:59] <TobiX> Ummon: Hmm, that's strange. Why does your paste say "Java Plug-in 1.6.0_24" - something is strange here...
#1889 [14:00] <Ummon> yep :/
#1890 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Because that's OpenJDK, not Sun/oracle's java
#1891 [14:00] <TobiX> Ummon: Look at the page "about:plugins" in your browser. Are there multiple Java plugins?
#1892 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Cue - This is what I see.. http://i.imgur.com/MX2OY.jpg
#1893 [14:01] <TobiX> GreyVulpine: I always run Minecraft on OpenJDK. No problems with that.
#1894 [14:01] <Cue> GreyVulpine: Yeah, that's not the whole map
#1895 [14:01] <Ummon> yep, they are tens of different versions
#1896 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Some do have problems on OpenJDK, especially with IcedTea
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#1898 [14:02] <Cue> The map itself is considerably bigger
#1899 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see.. hmm.
#1900 [14:02] <Ummon> screenshot ?
#1901 [14:02] <TobiX> Ummon: That would help, yes...
#1902 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Cue - https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer/wiki
#1903 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> "The full map doesn't display even when fully zoomed out! Are you using the -z option on your commandline? If so, try removing it, or increasing the value you set."
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#1905 [14:03] <Cue> GreyVulpine: Ironically, it doesn't want to render with less =P
#1906 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1907 [14:04] <Cue> And also that shouldn't cause problems with higher zoom levels
#1908 [14:05] <Ummon> TobiX: http://uppix.net/f/5/9/a569cf5c61fd2ee0a737c042451fb.html
#1909 [14:08] <aetherian> dang is this usb drive messed up
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#1911 [14:08] <Silverevilchao> Hello!
#1912 [14:08] <aetherian> trouble read/writing it, and when I put it back in, the name of the thing is an exclamation point followed by those weird box symbols for when it can't render it :|
#1913 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#1914 [14:08] <aetherian> ello Silverevilchao
#1915 [14:09] <Silverevilchao> Um, this is going to sound really n00bish, but...I'm trying to run the game in Linux and am having issues trying to start it
#1916 [14:09] <Silverevilchao> For some reason, Java supposedly can't find the LauncherFrame class...
#1917 [14:10] <Silverevilchao> trying to get it to run using Linux's GUI (not the terminal) brings up an error message stating that it's not marked as an executable
#1918 [14:10] <TobiX> Silverevilchao: How do yo run Minecraft?
#1919 [14:10] <VoxelHead> no
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#1921 [14:10] <Badugga> Hiya =)
#1922 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Silverevilchao - In the gui, right click on the .jar file, go to permissions, and set the executable flag
#1923 [14:11] <Badugga> Hey grey, i still got no answer to gift code Issue =/
#1924 [14:11] <TobiX> Ummon: Hmm... Do you maybe have diferent versions of Java installed in parallel?
#1925 [14:11] <Badugga> no emails arrived..
#1926 [14:11] <aetherian> Badugga: how long has it been
#1927 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - Give it a couple days?
#1928 [14:12] <Badugga> i sent email bought code 5 days ago, and sent email four days ago...
#1929 [14:12] <Ummon> TobiX: plausible
#1930 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - And you checked your profile page, and it hasn't shown up there?
#1931 [14:13] <Badugga> Yes =/
#1932 [14:13] <Ummon> how do i check it ?
#1933 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> You've checked it recently?
#1934 [14:13] <VoxelHead> yes, but only on sundays and selected bank holidays
#1935 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#1936 [14:13] <Silverevilchao> :D Thank you so much! It worked! ^^
#1937 [14:13] <Badugga> Yea, couple minutes ago.
#1938 [14:14] <Silverevilchao> Okay, heading out now. Have a nice day and thank you guys! :D
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#1940 [14:14] <TobiX> Ummon: There are 4 packages to consider. Either you want openjdk, then install openjdk-6-jre and icedtea6-plugin. Or you want the Sun JRE, then install sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin...
#1941 [14:14] <Ummon> okay
#1942 [14:14] <Badugga> afk, im going to clean up my room and eat. =)
#1943 [14:14] <TobiX> Ummon: Make sure the packages you don't want are not installed, it might cause problems...
#1944 [14:15] <Ummon> okay :)
#1945 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Ummon - Do you have other javas installed?
#1946 [14:16] <Ummon> the sun jre and plugin are installed
#1947 [14:16] <Ummon> and i'm removing the openjdk jre
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#1949 [14:17] <TobiX> Might be the case that the Sun plugin tried to use the OpenJDK JRE - which will break...
#1950 [14:17] <TobiX> I wonder if there is a bug for this already...
#1951 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> No... but could you do:
#1952 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1953 [14:18] <Ummon> ooooh
#1954 [14:18] <Ummon> i've just done it
#1955 [14:18] <Ummon> Sélection Chemin Priorité État
#1956 [14:18] <Ummon> ------------------------------------------------------------
#1957 [14:18] <Ummon> * 0 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 mode automatique
#1958 [14:18] <Ummon> 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 mode manuel
#1959 [14:18] <Ummon> 2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 63 mode manuel
#1960 [14:18] <Ummon> Appuyez sur <Entrée> pour conserver la valeur par défaut[*] ou choisissez le numéro sélectionné :2
#1961 [14:18] <Ummon> update-alternatives: utilisation de « /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java » pour fournir « /usr/bin/java » (java) en mode manuel.
#1962 [14:18] <Ummon> openjdk was selected :x
#1963 [14:20] <TobiX> Ummon: If it still happens, take a look at Debian bug #618725 - that might also be a problem...
#1964 [14:20] <Ummon> i must have dinner, sorry (and thanks for helping)
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#1967 [14:26] <Crupulus> Hey, why am I not getting ores from certain blocks ? I mine it, but obtain nothing
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#1969 [14:27] <Morrolan> Crupuls: For iron you need to use atleast a stone pickaxe, and for gold, diamonds and redstone atleast an iron pickaxe.
#1970 [14:27] <Crupulus> Ah, ty
#1971 [14:28] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#1972 [14:28] <Crupulus> Also, do i need to be a premium user to join a server ? (multiplayer)
#1973 [14:28] <Morrolan> Yes.
#1974 [14:29] <Crupulus> Mmmkmk
#1975 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1976 [14:29] <Crupulus> Well
#1977 [14:29] <Crupulus> That is unfortunate lol.
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#1979 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> You kinda need to be a premium user to play beta in the first place
#1980 [14:29] <Crupulus> Yeah
#1981 [14:29] <Crupulus> I heard about that
#1982 [14:29] <Crupulus> lol.
#1983 [14:29] <Morrolan> Only kinda though...
#1984 [14:29] <Crupulus> Well
#1985 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> We don't look too kindy upon people who pirate MC
#1986 [14:29] <Crupulus> there was that torrents stuff
#1987 [14:29] <Crupulus> and umm
#1988 [14:29] <Crupulus> Yea.
#1989 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> I'm going to ask you kindly to leave.
#1990 [14:30] <Crupulus> :)
#1991 [14:30] <Morrolan> And suddendly it downloaded itself..
#1992 [14:30] <Crupulus> EXACTLY
#1993 [14:30] <Morrolan> Kind as we all are. :)
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#1995 [14:30] <Crupulus> Well, this game needs a demo
#1996 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> You didn't pay for minecraft, please leave
#1997 [14:30] <Crupulus> I don't feel guilty for pirating a beta
#1998 [14:30] <Crupulus> It's
#1999 [14:30] <Crupulus> err
#2000 [14:30] <Crupulus> NO PLZ
#2001 [14:30] <Morrolan> Ah, GreyVulpine, you were right.
#2002 [14:30] * GreyVulpine kicked Crupulus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Pirating MC)
#2003 [14:31] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2003 [14:31] <Morrolan> I never thought that there were people who are pirating the game "because it's a beta". Now here I am, jaw wide open.
#2004 [14:31] <ApoPlexia> hello. does anybody know how i can load the minecraft_server.jar file version 1.4? the normal link mincraft.net/download/minecraft_scerfer.jar just load the 1.3 version
#2005 [14:31] <Badugga> Oh god about those people...
#2006 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> I didn't either...
#2007 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> ApoPlexia - The latest link should be 1.4
#2008 [14:32] <Morrolan> ApoPlexia: Wait, they did not update the .jar server?
#2009 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> I believe they did.
#2010 [14:32] <Dark_Fox_> One of my friends is one of those people
#2011 [14:32] <Morrolan> Lemme check
#2012 [14:32] <Morrolan> !server
#2013 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> ApoPlexia - Are you using any sort of mod?
#2014 [14:32] <Dark_Fox_> "What do I get that the paid version has that the pirated version doesn't"
#2015 [14:32] <Morrolan> ApoPlexia: It's 1.4 for me. :/
#2016 [14:33] <ApoPlexia> no mod. just a linux server
#2017 [14:33] <Dark_Fox_> Can't believe I spent an hour and a half trying to diagnose why he couldn't connect to multiplayer
#2018 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Dark_Fox_.
#2019 [14:33] <Badugga> Hey, so... i still have no answer from Mojang, what should i do?
#2020 [14:33] <ApoPlexia> hm... but why is the server starting version 1.3?
#2021 [14:33] <Morrolan> Badugga: When did you send the mail?
#2022 [14:33] <Badugga> Four days ago
#2023 [14:33] <Morrolan> ApoPlexia: I assure you, download the one from above and start it, it IS 1.3
#2024 [14:33] <Dark_Fox_> Hey, not totally related to minecraft but; Is there some reason I can't change my nick on this server?
#2025 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> ApoPlexia - Did you remove minecraft_server.jar, and replace it with the copy you got from minecraft.net?
#2026 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> 1.4 Morrolan
#2027 [14:34] <Morrolan> You might have an old version in your folder or something like this.
#2028 [14:34] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Euh, right.
#2029 [14:34] <Morrolan> Dark_Fox: What does it say when you try to?
#2030 [14:34] <Badugga> Morrolan, u know ANY solution to contact mojang any more?
#2031 [14:34] <ApoPlexia> ok. i will try to replace it befor i load the new file. maybe it works
#2032 [14:34] <Badugga> Ive mailed to payments, daniel, notch... And even through twitter
#2033 [14:34] <Morrolan> Badugga: Nah, I can only advise you to wait until tomorrow evening, since it was weekend and stuff.
#2034 [14:35] <Morrolan> But apart from that. :/
#2035 [14:35] <Badugga> ok
#2036 [14:35] <Badugga> Gtg =) bye!
#2037 [14:35] <Morrolan> Cya.
#2038 [14:35] <Dark_Fox_> Morrolan: Oh, I finally got an error message in my server log. Apparently I can't change my nick while I'm in #minecraft
#2039 [14:35] <Morrolan> Yeah, that's cause that channel requires nick verification I guess.
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#2041 [14:36] <Dark_Fox> Yeah, their bot must auto-ban non registered users or something
#2042 [14:36] <Dark_Fox> Totally useless and a pain in the butt
#2043 [14:36] <Morrolan> Well, it certainly cuts down on the amount of spam I guess.
#2044 [14:36] <Dark_Fox> The only type of spam that could prevent is join/quit hammering
#2045 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> And it does, and #minecraft has seen that attack before
#2046 [14:37] <Dark_Fox> Ah, I see
#2047 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> In fact, it's happened quite a few times
#2048 [14:37] <ApoPlexia> thx a lot. server is running version 1.4 :)
#2049 [14:38] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
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#2051 [14:44] <Helpmeplz> hey guys i have problems with my javaversion to play the game
#2052 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> What problem
#2053 [14:46] <Morrolan> Right...
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#2058 [15:00] <Vector> i have a very weird issue with minecraft
#2059 [15:00] <Vector> it started with the update to 1.3
#2060 [15:00] <Vector> basically i lag tremendously on any minecraft server, like 30 second lag or something
#2061 [15:01] <lemon-rev> at the beginning when you log in, its common, stop bitching, its the way it is atm
#2062 [15:01] <Vector> this is a common issue?
#2063 [15:01] <lemon-rev> yes
#2064 [15:01] <Vector> and why am i bitching? I'm speaking about a problem
#2065 [15:02] <lemon-rev> well thanks, but we know already :P
#2066 [15:02] <Vector> hm
#2067 [15:02] <Vector> you know the problem?
#2068 [15:02] <Vector> At least I know it's a common issue now, I thought it was just me
#2069 [15:02] <lemon-rev> yes, we know of the problem, and no one here works for mojang
#2070 [15:02] <Vector> meh
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#2072 [15:02] <lemon-rev> well had you stuck around others would have told you that too :P
#2073 [15:02] <gPad2002> lemon-rev: That's not really the way to talk to someone who seeks help
#2074 [15:03] <Morrolan> Lemon-rev: No need to be that aggressive
#2075 [15:03] <lemon-rev> i suppose
#2076 [15:03] <TobiX> "Doctor, my left pipe hurts a bit." - "That's normel, NEXT!"
#2077 [15:03] <gPad2002> Lol
#2078 [15:03] <Vector> i think you claimed i was "bitching" because I was one of the multitudes of people to speak about such a problem, and you were tired of it?
#2079 [15:04] * lemon-rev thinks exactly
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#2080 [15:05] <Kealper> uhh
#2081 [15:05] <Kealper> Vector: how long does the lag last?
#2082 [15:05] <lemon-rev> keaper he said 30 secs
#2083 [15:05] <Kealper> i think you misread
#2084 [15:06] <Kealper> i think he means his actions are delayed by 30 seconds
#2085 [15:06] <lemon-rev> in what way
#2086 [15:06] <Morrolan> Me too. I guess he's getting a lag of 30 seconds all the time.
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#2089 [15:06] <lemon-rev> depends healper, if it doesnt happen on sp then, its internt related and yes its common,
#2090 [15:07] <Vector> Kealper: 30000ms+
#2091 [15:07] <Vector> about
#2092 [15:07] <Kealper> Vector: not how much do you lag, how long does this lag last?
#2093 [15:07] <Kealper> all the time?
#2094 [15:07] <Vector> it's throughout
#2095 [15:07] <Morrolan> Vector: What network card are you using? IIRC there's a certain brand which always causes issues.
#2096 [15:07] <Vector> yes
#2097 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> atheros, yes
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#2099 [15:08] <Vector> well
#2100 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> but the 1.3 lag that's also in 1.4, really had no solution as of yet
#2101 [15:08] <Vector> let me check
#2102 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> had = has
#2103 [15:08] <Kealper> Atheros chipsets are usually the cause of disconnects, this lag issue seems to be a problem that arised from the 1.3 update and it happens for no real reason that anyone can tell of, and no known fix
#2104 [15:08] <Vector> Via Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
#2105 [15:08] <Vector> this issue started with 1.3
#2106 [15:09] <Vector> that's when it started happening
#2107 [15:09] <Morrolan> Kealper: Ah, good to know.
#2108 [15:09] <Vector> that's weird, Kealper
#2109 [15:09] <Vector> i wonder why that is
#2110 [15:09] <Vector> i gotta go
#2111 [15:09] <Vector> afk
#2112 [15:09] <Kealper> if we knew, we'd tell you how to fix it :P
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#2114 [15:11] <Morrolan> Anyone knows what the quit-message of that guy means? Google translate says it's finnish, and translates the last word as "Santa claus". XD
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#2116 [15:11] <Kealper> no idea lol
#2117 [15:12] <aetherian> must...resist...something...
#2118 [15:12] <Kwality> question.- where would i go if id want to update java for minecraft? it seems like the game is getting lower fps overtime
#2119 [15:13] <Agumon286> Hey, I'm having a problem with my server. It keeps saying this error:
#2120 [15:13] <Agumon286> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#2121 [15:13] <Agumon286> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2122 [15:13] <gPad2002> It tells you the problem
#2123 [15:13] <oldtopman> Agumon286: You already have a server running
#2124 [15:13] <Agumon286> Nothing else is running on that port (192.168.1.4.)
#2125 [15:13] <gPad2002> Thats not a port
#2126 [15:13] <Agumon286> It is a lan server
#2127 [15:13] <Morrolan> Look in the task manager if the java process is still running.
#2128 [15:13] <xales> Agumon286: Did you put an IP address or a port in the server.properties file?
#2129 [15:13] <oldtopman> Agumon: Wipe out the dir that the server.jar is in, save for your world file
#2130 [15:13] <gPad2002> Did you run it twice
#2131 [15:13] <xales> Remve it
#2132 [15:13] <xales> remove*
#2133 [15:14] <Agumon286> I didn't run it twice. That Ip is in the properties. And I'm wiping the files right now
#2134 [15:15] <oldtopman> Agumon286: Don't forget to reop yourself
#2135 [15:16] <Agumon286> No dice.
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#2137 [15:16] <Agumon286> Same error
#2138 [15:16] <oldtopman> Restart then
#2139 [15:16] <Agumon286> Okay.
#2140 [15:19] <Vector> perhaps i should see if my drivers need to be updated
#2141 [15:19] <Vector> hm
#2142 [15:20] <Morrolan> Vector: It can't hurt I guess. Don't expect too much though. ;)
#2143 [15:21] <Vector> ya
#2144 [15:21] <Vector> its worth a shot
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#2147 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - Did you put an ip in server-ip in server.properties?
#2148 [15:23] <Hector> well that was me updating
#2149 [15:23] <Hector> XD
#2150 [15:23] <Hector> disconnect me
#2151 [15:23] <Agumon286> Yes I did.
#2152 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Remove it Agumon286
#2153 [15:23] <Agumon286> Removed
#2154 [15:23] <Morrolan> Try again now. :)
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#2156 [15:24] <Agumon286> It runs
#2157 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Leave server-ip blank from now on.
#2158 [15:24] <Morrolan> All hail the mighty GreyVulpine and xales!
#2159 [15:24] <Morrolan> Now would be a good moment for Voxelhead to say something...
#2160 [15:25] <aetherian> he's away .-.
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#2162 [15:27] <Agumon286> I still have a problem
#2163 [15:27] <Agumon286> My friend can't connect.
#2164 [15:27] <aetherian> what now
#2165 [15:28] <aetherian> did you portforward?
#2166 [15:28] <Morrolan> Is he in the same network as you?
#2167 [15:28] <Agumon286> Yes
#2168 [15:28] <aetherian> yes to which
#2169 [15:28] <Agumon286> Yes, he is on same network
#2170 [15:28] <aetherian> then he should connect to your internal
#2171 [15:28] <aetherian> are you on windows?
#2172 [15:28] <Morrolan> Then you just need to give him your internal ip.
#2173 [15:28] <oldtopman> Agumon286: Are you in windows?
#2174 [15:28] <Agumon286> YEs
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#2176 [15:28] <aetherian> go to cmd, and type ipconfig
#2177 [15:28] <oldtopman> Run the command "ipconfig"
#2178 [15:29] <oldtopman> aetherian: Stop ningaing me
#2179 [15:29] <oldtopman> ninjaing*
#2180 [15:29] <aetherian> there should be your ip (most likely 192.x.x.x)
#2181 [15:29] <aetherian> oldtopman: so slow.
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#2183 [15:29] <Agumon286> IPv5?
#2184 [15:29] <aetherian> wha
#2185 [15:29] <aetherian> v4
#2186 [15:29] <Kealper> IPv5 ftw
#2187 [15:29] <Agumon286> That's what i meant :V
#2188 [15:29] <aetherian> lol kealper
#2189 [15:29] * oldtopman vows to beat you at ninjaing\
#2189 [15:29] <Agumon286> It ended in a five
#2190 [15:29] <aetherian> well
#2191 [15:30] <Agumon286> I mixed em up :V
#2192 [15:30] <aetherian> have him try to connect to it
#2193 [15:30] <oldtopman> Agumon: Can you paste the output here?
#2194 [15:30] <aetherian> Agumon286: you don't need to yet
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#2196 [15:30] <Agumon286> That worked! Thanks guys.
#2197 [15:30] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#2198 [15:30] <oldtopman> np
#2199 [15:30] <aetherian> you are welcome
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#2201 [15:30] <aetherian> oldtopman: wahaha
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#2203 [15:31] <groony> hello all
#2204 [15:31] <Morrolan> I wonder how many problems Mojang could solve by simply adding a popup with a link to a "How to set up your server" when starting the server for the first time. :/
#2205 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2206 [15:31] <Morrolan> Hey groony
#2207 [15:31] <groony> I have some problem with redstone and gold ore
#2208 [15:32] <Morrolan> Yea?
#2209 [15:32] <Morrolan> Wait, lemme guess.
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#2211 [15:32] <Morrolan> Redstone and gold ore can only be mined with atleast an iron pickaxe.
#2212 [15:32] <Morrolan> Is this it?
#2213 [15:32] <groony> maybe i will try
#2214 [15:32] <groony> thx so far
#2215 [15:33] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#2216 [15:33] <aetherian> "why can't I mine bedrock with my wooden pick D:"
#2217 [15:33] <VoxelHead> i don't wanna.... ok
#2218 [15:33] <groony> I only tried it with an stone pickaxe so this could be the problem
#2219 [15:33] <Morrolan> Yea, that's it. :)
#2220 [15:33] <Morrolan> Aetherian: Yea, I really don't know, try harder maybe. :/
#2221 [15:34] <aetherian> I
#2222 [15:34] <aetherian> I'll go for another two hour stretch
#2223 [15:34] <Morrolan> Ok, tell us how it worked out. :)
#2224 [15:34] <groony> Of course but could take some minutes
#2225 [15:35] <Agumon286> Alright, one more question. How do I allocate more RAM to the server?
#2226 [15:35] <Morrolan> Change the command with which you start the server.
#2227 [15:35] <Agumon286> I take it I need the .jar then
#2228 [15:35] <aetherian> -Xmx is the end, -Xms is the start, and yes you need the jar
#2229 [15:35] <Morrolan> I... guess so. I'm not sure wheter the .exe takes command line argument as well.
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#2231 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> It does
#2232 [15:36] <aetherian> :o
#2233 [15:36] <VoxelHead> shucks
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#2235 [15:36] <Agumon286> Oh it does?
#2236 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> To make it easier on yourself though, just use the .jar
#2237 [15:36] <Kealper> the jar is cooler though
#2238 [15:36] <Agumon286> Yeah, I should
#2239 [15:37] <aetherian> 'tis true, kells
#2240 [15:37] <Agumon286> Should I leave the nogui on the end?
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#2242 [15:37] <Morrolan> Yes.
#2243 [15:38] <Agumon286> So "java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" would be good?
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#2245 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if you have 2 gigs of RAM free
#2246 [15:38] <Morrolan> Looks fine to me.
#2247 [15:39] <Morrolan> (If you have atleast three GB of RAM in that PC that is)
#2248 [15:39] <Agumon286> Okay, that didn't do anything.
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#2250 [15:39] <Agumon286> I saw a command bar flash
#2251 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> define, "didn't do anything"
#2252 [15:39] <Agumon286> for like a second
#2253 [15:39] <Agumon286> Cmd flashed
#2254 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Where did you run it
#2255 [15:39] <Morrolan> add a @pause on a new line, so we see the error message
#2256 [15:40] <oldtopman> Agumon286: Run the command "cmd" instead
#2257 [15:40] <oldtopman> Then run the commands wwe want you to run inside of that wnodow
#2258 [15:40] <Agumon286> Not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
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#2260 [15:41] <Agumon286> I have the latest java
#2261 [15:41] <oldtopman> Also, there is an error with java that [revents you from allocating more than ~1.5GB RAM to this game
#2262 [15:41] <Agumon286> oh
#2263 [15:41] <Agumon286> I should fix that then.
#2264 [15:41] <Morrolan> Ah, this error can be fixed the lazy or the hard way.
#2265 [15:42] <Morrolan> (The not recognized one I mean)
#2266 [15:42] <groony> yeah
#2267 [15:42] <groony> i got it
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#2269 [15:42] <groony> thx
#2270 [15:42] <bugweiser> hey
#2271 [15:42] <Morrolan> Groony: You're welcome. :)
#2272 [15:42] <Morrolan> Hey bugweiser
#2273 [15:43] <bugweiser> can anyone help with a crash im having?
#2274 [15:43] <Morrolan> Sure, just tell us what it says.
#2275 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com it please
#2276 [15:43] <Agumon286> Same error. Allocated less ram, no difference
#2277 [15:43] <bugweiser> it doesnt even say anything. it lets me play for like 1-5 minutes, then just freezes
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#2279 [15:43] <groony> is it also possible get the redstone ore with a diamant pick-axe (if i will found some)
#2280 [15:43] <bugweiser> yes
#2281 [15:43] <bugweiser> oh
#2282 [15:43] <Morrolan> Argumon: Yeah, that message doesn't have anything to do with the max ammount of RAM.
#2283 [15:43] <bugweiser> not the ore
#2284 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - you're getting the java is not recognized as an external or internal...
#2285 [15:44] <Morrolan> Groony: Yes
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#2287 [15:44] <Agumon286> Yes
#2288 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#2289 [15:44] <Morrolan> Someone wants to walk him through setting the PATH variable?
#2290 [15:44] <Agumon286> Win7 64 bit
#2291 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I'll take it Morrolan
#2292 [15:44] <Morrolan> Thanks. :)
#2293 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - PM me please, I'll walk you through it
#2294 [15:44] <xMopx> Hi guys, I have a problem. My character is getting STUCK in the AIR in single player. I have to use NBTedit to move him to safety but if i go back to the same place, I still get stuck in the air. Wtf?
#2295 [15:45] <Morrolan> XMopx: There was someone with the same error yesterday I think. :/
#2296 [15:45] <xMopx> Crap.
#2297 [15:45] <bugweiser> can anyone help me?
#2298 [15:45] <Morrolan> It might be a corrupted chunk or so. Is there anything important near that place where you get stuck?
#2299 [15:45] <xMopx> Yeah, the edge of my house.
#2300 [15:45] <bugweiser> my minecraft doesn't say anything. it lets me play for like 1-5 minutes, then just freezes
#2301 [15:45] <Morrolan> bugweiser: Did you try to lower the viewdistance and disable smooth lightning?
#2302 [15:45] <bugweiser> mmmm no, ill try it
#2303 [15:46] <VoxelHead> =)
#2304 [15:46] <Morrolan> xMopx: That's bad. I would have advised you to delete that chunk in MCEdit, but that won't work now.
#2305 [15:46] <aetherian> unless...
#2306 [15:46] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :[
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#2308 [15:47] <Morrolan> Theoretically you could just save your house with MCEdit first, delete the chunk, let it regenerate and replace it afterwards, but that'll be some work.
#2309 [15:47] <xMopx> Hmm
#2310 [15:47] <xMopx> Well ill see what I can get done :/
#2311 [15:48] <Morrolan> Wish you luck. And tell us how it came out. :)
#2312 [15:48] <Morrolan> You can get MCEdit here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
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#2314 [15:54] <leba> hi guys is anybody able to help me with a server set up for minecraft?
#2315 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need?
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#2317 [15:54] <Silverevilchao> Hello again! xD
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#2319 [15:54] <Liraxus> Hey
#2320 [15:54] <Liraxus> im having trouble making a crosshair
#2321 [15:55] <leba> im new to mine craft and i have downloaded the server zip and would like to have a private server for me and just my son to play on, how do i go about doing this.
#2322 [15:55] <aetherian> there is no server zip
#2323 [15:55] <leba> he lives with his mum so is coming from outside my network
#2324 [15:55] <Liraxus> :/
#2325 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> leba - Are you trying to run the classic free server
#2326 [15:55] <Liraxus> What folder is the crosshair in?
#2327 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> or the survival beta server
#2328 [15:55] <Silverevilchao> Ok, game starts and loads perfectly fine. However, it can't seem to detect my keyboard input. It detects mouse input perfectly fine.
#2329 [15:55] <leba> the zip file on the list of servers page?
#2330 [15:56] <leba> its the multi player clasic page
#2331 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> leba - That's the classic server
#2332 [15:56] <leba> there is a server zip file there
#2333 [15:56] <Liraxus> . . .
#2334 [15:57] <aetherian> oh.
#2335 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you want the classic server, or the beta?
#2336 [15:57] <Liraxus> Uh, aether
#2337 [15:57] <Morrolan> Liraxus: Minecraft.jar -> gui -> icons.png
#2338 [15:57] <Liraxus> you know what folder the crosshair image is in?
#2339 [15:57] <Liraxus> Thanks morro
#2340 [15:57] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#2341 [15:57] <leba> the clasic to begin with if he enjoys the game and it lasts more than a faze ill buy the normal game for him and myself
#2342 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> leba - Then you've got the right file then.
#2343 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#2344 [15:58] <aetherian> well uh, guys, bye, I wants to installs me some new OS
#2345 [15:58] <Morrolan> Cya aetherian. :)
#2346 [15:59] <Morrolan> Leba: Since he's outside your network you'll need to forward the ports it requires.
#2347 [15:59] <leba> so i have unpacked the zip and have started up the server. i have changed the setting for public to false.
#2348 [15:59] <leba> how would i do that?
#2349 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Please change public to true, change the server name to something you can look at.
#2350 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Then launch it, go to the server page, look for the server name, and copy the link to the server
#2351 [16:00] <Liraxus> Hey, the flowers are broken for some reason
#2352 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> then save it
#2353 [16:00] <Liraxus> They have a big white block aroujnd them
#2354 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> You can then change it back to false
#2355 [16:00] <Liraxus> Do i gotta show a screenshot?
#2356 [16:01] <leba> do i not use this then? http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=<1.2.3.4.5>&port=<25565>
#2357 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> That only works if you set verify-names to false.
#2358 [16:01] <Liraxus> Morro, im having texture problems
#2359 [16:01] <Morrolan> Liraxus: Yea? What happened?
#2360 [16:02] <leba> right ok will go give that a try.
#2361 [16:02] <leba> ty for your help
#2362 [16:02] <Liraxus> 1 sec
#2363 [16:03] <Liraxus> http://www.iaza.com/work/110404C/iaza13317048701800.png
#2364 [16:03] <Liraxus> Dah
#2365 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> You're using a texture pack
#2366 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> And it most likely is screwing up with that texture for the flower
#2367 [16:04] <Liraxus> No, im edittign the texture.png
#2368 [16:04] <Morrolan> Incorrect transparency I'd say.
#2369 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2370 [16:05] <Liraxus> Sooo im screwed?
#2371 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> No, use a better editor, or figure out what your program is doing with transparencies
#2372 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Look for an option for an alpha layer
#2373 [16:05] <Liraxus> :/
#2374 [16:06] <Liraxus> Screw it, i will just remove it completely
#2375 [16:06] <Morrolan> What image editor are you using?
#2376 [16:06] <Liraxus> Paint
#2377 [16:06] <Morrolan> Oah
#2378 [16:06] * GreyVulpine winces
#2378 [16:06] <Morrolan> Use Gimp or Photoshop
#2379 [16:06] <Silverevilchao> I was about to mention GIMP myself...
#2380 [16:07] <Morrolan> Paint is feasible for very basic editing, but not for creating textures with transparency. ;)
#2381 [16:07] <Morrolan> Or maybe, if you prefer a basic programm, use Paint.NET
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#2383 [16:08] <Liraxus> Does PAINT have transperency?
#2384 [16:08] <Morrolan> I don't think so.
#2385 [16:08] <xales> No
#2386 [16:09] <Liraxus> no trasnparency, no deal
#2387 [16:09] <Liraxus> I want a free program that can fix the flowers
#2388 [16:09] <VoxelHead> I've already got one
#2389 [16:09] <VoxelHead> yes yes, it's very nice
#2390 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Gimp is free, also paint.net
#2391 [16:09] <Morrolan> Yes, use GIMP or Paint.NET
#2392 [16:09] <lemon-rev> what about paint.net
#2393 [16:09] <lemon-rev> doh
#2394 [16:09] <Liraxus> But does GIMP have transparency
#2395 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2396 [16:09] <Morrolan> Yes, sure.
#2397 [16:09] <Morrolan> It's an image editing software after all. ;)
#2398 [16:10] <Morrolan> But if you prefer a basic programm I suggest using Paint.NET
#2399 [16:10] <leba> sorry back again. here is the link and the server is running but its giving me a server not running message http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=d99be2f9a22b40f3c0cdf7fea055c89a
#2400 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> leba - Have you port forwarded?
#2401 [16:10] <leba> have main pc running server and trying to access from laptop
#2402 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> leba - With classic, you'll need to port forward 25565/TCP from your router
#2403 [16:11] <leba> sorry how will i do that? the links on the server page on mine craft
#2404 [16:11] <Liraxus> hrm
#2405 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, let's start with, what operating system is the server running on?
#2406 [16:11] <Liraxus> Man making a good texture pack is hard
#2407 [16:12] <leba> windows xp
#2408 [16:12] <Morrolan> Liraxus: Indeed. :D
#2409 [16:12] <Liraxus> But im not stopping yet!
#2410 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> leba - Go to your start menu, go to the run command, and type in: cmd
#2411 [16:12] <Liraxus> Im almost dosene with the GG2 Minecraft pack, and im not stopping yet T_T
#2412 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#2413 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Please give us your ip address and default gateway
#2414 [16:12] <Liraxus> wanna see a quick screenshot of my work?
#2415 [16:13] <Morrolan> Sure, why not.
#2416 [16:14] <Silverevilchao> Ok, is there anything you guys would recommend for problems with the game not recognizing keyboard input?
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#2418 [16:14] <Morrolan> Silverevlichao: Already tried a different keyboard?
#2419 [16:14] <VoxelHead> only when you win the lottery
#2420 [16:14] <Silverevilchao> my computer is my laptop, so it's kinda out of the question
#2421 [16:14] <leba> `92.168.0.5 default is 192.168.0.1
#2422 [16:14] <Morrolan> No old keyboard lying aroung somewhere? Hmm. :/
#2423 [16:14] <lemon-rev> silervichano what about ext keyboard
#2424 [16:14] <xales> Silverevilchao: What OS, and what kind of keyboard?
#2425 [16:14] <Morrolan> around*
#2426 [16:15] <VoxelHead> mp3!
#2427 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> leba - Could you pull up your browser, and go to http://192.168.0.1 to access your router
#2428 [16:15] <Silverevilchao> OS: Ubuntu Linux 10.04. Keyboard: the one built into my laptop. Notably, the mouse is detected fine despite being one plugged into the USB port. Touchpad is also detected without any problems
#2429 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to port forward using your router leba?
#2430 [16:16] <Silverevilchao> and wow, I need to improve my grammar
#2431 [16:16] <xales> Silverevilchao: Try upgrading to 10.10, maybe?
#2432 [16:16] <Morrolan> Ah well, I gotta go. Have a nice day everyone. :)
#2433 [16:16] <VoxelHead> i'll tell ya later
#2434 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Cya Morrolan
#2435 [16:16] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#2436 [16:16] <VoxelHead> nnk
#2437 [16:16] <Agumon286> What are some nice server mods I should get?
#2438 [16:16] <gPad2002> Bukkit and #bukkit
#2439 [16:16] <Morrolan> Liraxus: I'll be here tomorrow, if you want me to show me the work you did until then feel free.
#2440 [16:16] <Agumon286> Bukkit is down for maitenence
#2441 [16:17] <leba> nope but my router is fairly straight forwards. im sure its in the section im heading to
#2442 [16:17] <gPad2002> You can still get it
#2443 [16:17] <gPad2002> The forums work
#2444 [16:17] <Agumon286> Oh
#2445 [16:17] <Liraxus> srry, can't give ya one yet
#2446 [16:17] <Silverevilchao> what's strange is that the *launcher* can detect stuff I type in
#2447 [16:17] <Silverevilchao> but it seems like the game proper doesn't
#2448 [16:17] <Liraxus> ill finish soon
#2449 [16:17] <xales> ??> Silverevilchao linux/reinst
#2450 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Silverevilchao: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2451 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Silverevilchao: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2452 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> leba - You're going to port forward 25565-2555/TCP to 192.168.0.5
#2453 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> er, 25565-25565
#2454 [16:18] <Silverevilchao> ok
#2455 [16:18] <Silverevilchao> did so
#2456 [16:18] <leba> so its a firewall rule? inbound or out
#2457 [16:18] <Silverevilchao> it's redownloading the packages for updating
#2458 [16:19] <Silverevilchao> keyboard input is still not detected for game proper
#2459 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> leba - inbound
#2460 [16:19] <Liraxus> waits for gimp to start
#2461 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> leba - If you require help, just give us a screenshot of the page
#2462 [16:20] <Liraxus> good ggod
#2463 [16:20] <Kealper> Invaders Must Die is pretty sweet on AudioSurf
#2464 [16:21] <Agumon286> Fml
#2465 [16:22] <Kealper> midi files look hard to parse :/
#2466 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> parse...?
#2467 [16:23] <Liraxus> Ok, i have GIMP open with the terrain.png inside
#2468 [16:23] <Kealper> read
#2469 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> for
#2470 [16:23] <Liraxus> how do i make transparent
#2471 [16:23] <Kealper> who doesn't want to make a midi parser? lol
#2472 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> :P
#2473 [16:23] <gPad2002> Kealper: For MC?
#2474 [16:23] <gPad2002> Its been done..
#2475 [16:23] <Kealper> no, just in general
#2476 [16:23] <gPad2002> You have a mobile phone?
#2477 [16:23] * xales slaps Kealper around a bit with a small Imperial-Class Stardestroyer
#2477 [16:23] <Kealper> :o
#2478 [16:23] <gPad2002> There's your midi parser
#2479 [16:23] <VoxelHead> wow
#2480 [16:23] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: Shutup
#2481 [16:24] * GreyVulpine slaps xales around with an Executer-Class Super Star Destroyer.
#2481 [16:24] <xales> :O
#2482 [16:24] <Kealper> gPad2002: midi parser it may contain, but it's not a midi parser that i made :P
#2483 [16:24] <VoxelHead> !
#2484 [16:24] <gPad2002> :P
#2485 [16:24] <Kealper> the point of many of the things i make is not to be used in stuff, most of it is just to learn how said thing works lol
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#2487 [16:25] <Liraxus> Morro, i have question
#2488 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Morr left
#2489 [16:26] <Liraxus> darn it
#2490 [16:26] <Liraxus> i need to transparentize something
#2491 [16:26] <gPad2002> Layers
#2492 [16:26] <gPad2002> Add alpha channel
#2493 [16:26] <gPad2002> Select the area to be made transplant
#2494 [16:26] <gPad2002> Select the eraser
#2495 [16:26] <gPad2002> Set hard edge
#2496 [16:26] <Kealper> magic wand tool + del key
#2497 [16:26] <gPad2002> Set opacity to 50%
#2498 [16:26] <Liraxus> whow whow whow
#2499 [16:27] <Liraxus> this is my first time using gimp
#2500 [16:27] <gPad2002> Kealper: Since when did gimp have a wand tool?
#2501 [16:27] <Silverevilchao> since at least a few years ago :P
#2502 [16:27] <Kealper> gPad2002: it doesn't have a magic wand tool? i thought MS Paint was the only one that couldn't do that >.>
#2503 [16:27] <Silverevilchao> it's always been there every time I used it, and I installed it in '06
#2504 [16:27] <gPad2002> The whole point is that you don't need it.
#2505 [16:28] <Liraxus> how do i "add alpha channel
#2506 [16:28] <gPad2002> Liraxus: Layers menu
#2507 [16:28] <gPad2002> Under transparency
#2508 [16:28] <leba> back again not sure i have done it correct how do i upload the image
#2509 [16:28] <Liraxus> it won't let me
#2510 [16:28] <Liraxus> its all gray
#2511 [16:28] <Liraxus> and it says "remove alpha channel"
#2512 [16:28] <gPad2002> Oh
#2513 [16:28] <gPad2002> You already have ne then
#2514 [16:29] <gPad2002> One*
#2515 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> leba - use http://www.imgur.com
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#2517 [16:29] <Liraxus> then what
#2518 [16:29] <gPad2002> Do what I said above
#2519 [16:29] <gPad2002> :P
#2520 [16:29] <gPad2002> I have ti AFK
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#2522 [16:29] <gPad2002> So AFK
#2523 [16:29] <bud> Kealper
#2524 [16:30] <bud> got a big favor :)
#2525 [16:30] <bud> to ask
#2526 [16:30] <Kealper> :O
#2527 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Well blow me down.
#2528 [16:30] <leba> http://imgur.com/oM7MV
#2529 [16:30] <bud> well its not so big lol
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#2531 [16:31] <bud> I just need help getting ubuntu back, I will figure out all the java stuff on my own if I can, and getting the drivers
#2532 [16:31] <bud> but can you help me get it back? I lost it when I wiped hard drive
#2533 [16:31] <relsqui> oh *that's* how those firefox theme things are supposed to fit
#2534 [16:31] <Kealper> uhh...what part did you lose?
#2535 [16:31] <bud> its killing me not to be able to be with my friends on beta
#2536 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> leba - Right, that defines the service... where are you port forwarding that service to 192.168.0.5?
#2537 [16:31] <relsqui> every time I've tried to use one I was like "I can only see a tiny strip of this what's the point"
#2538 [16:31] <bud> the whole OS
#2539 [16:31] <tokioi> Could someone in here help me with getting my world of minecraft client to work?
#2540 [16:31] <Kealper> so you need the .iso file, too? or do you still have that?
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#2542 [16:31] <bud> yes
#2543 [16:32] <tokioi> yes to me?
#2544 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Why is...
#2545 [16:32] <bud> I had to wipe my whole hard drive, I kept crashing for some reason
#2546 [16:32] <bud> no yes to Kealper
#2547 [16:32] <G2> Quick question...just ran into it starting with 1.4: [SEVERE] Unexpected exception lp: Failed to check session lock, aborting
#2548 [16:32] <tokioi> oh
#2549 [16:32] <Kealper> bud: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
#2550 [16:32] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: dare i ask? lol
#2551 [16:32] <xales> GreyVulpine: Oh, it's expiring op bans, M did this too
#2552 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Freakin
#2553 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> pirater, asking for help
#2554 [16:33] <xales> I will fix it, but you should talk to DopeGhoti because I think my fix breaks other things
#2555 [16:33] <leba> @grey i dont see anything that states portforwarding? let me send another photo i have a page that might be it
#2556 [16:33] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: it's still banned, it has it's own banlist that it will kickban if they rejoin
#2557 [16:33] <Kealper> i was confused about that for a while too lol
#2558 [16:33] <xales> Kealper: Nope
#2559 [16:33] <xales> 16:31:17 <VoxelHead> [13:32] (#MineCraftHelp) Channel ban on *!*@109.129.156.231 expired.
#2560 [16:34] <xales> 16:31:18 <VoxelHead> [13:32] #minecrafthelp: mode change '-b *!*@109.129.156.231' by VoxelHead!~VoxelHead@ip72-211-178-98.tc.ph.cox.net
#2561 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2562 [16:34] <xales> It only sets op bans for 2 hours, then it expires the,
#2563 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm going to have to ask either DopeGhoti or you on exactly how VoxelHead/M does bans
#2564 [16:34] <Kealper> oh, it actually didn't add it to the banlist? that's dumb
#2565 [16:34] <xales> them*
#2566 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Or how I get access to it
#2567 [16:34] <xales> GreyVulpine: Bans you set in the channel are now permanent bans
#2568 [16:34] <xales> I changed that
#2569 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#2570 [16:34] <xales> but if you want to set bans on the bot, you have to connect via telnet/DCC
#2571 [16:35] <Kealper> yeah, it should be perminant unless we remove them
#2572 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I might need a manual on how to use commands for the bot in telnet
#2573 [16:35] <Kealper> .help lol
#2574 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> ie, what commands are available
#2575 [16:35] <leba> @grey http://imgur.com/1jAgH
#2576 [16:35] <G2> So no one has an idea on how to fix session lock problems on a vanilla server?
#2577 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Stop the server, delete the session.lock file
#2578 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Should be in the.. world foldeR?
#2579 [16:36] <G2> yea, trying now
#2580 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> leba - that's the right page, alright..
#2581 [16:36] <gPad2002> Lol its set to BLOCK always
#2582 [16:36] <gPad2002> Back btw
#2583 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Service is minecraft, action allow always
#2584 [16:36] <G2> array index out of bound spam in the console, corrupt chunk right?
#2585 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Send to lan server 192.168.0.5
#2586 [16:36] <leba> @grey right so ideas on what needs to go in what box pls lol
#2587 [16:37] <Kealper> G2: probably
#2588 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> MInecraft server for the first box, allow always for the second
#2589 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.5 for the third
#2590 [16:37] <leba> then apply
#2591 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> leave the 4th, 5th and 6th alone
#2592 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Then click apply
#2593 [16:37] <G2> deleted the session lock file
#2594 [16:37] <G2> still get the same error
#2595 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> What error G2?
#2596 [16:37] <G2> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#2597 [16:37] <G2> lp: Failed to check session lock, aborting
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#2599 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the entire thing?
#2600 [16:38] <Maxi50> somoene can help me
#2601 [16:38] <xales> That might be permissions related
#2602 [16:38] <xales> Maxi50: With?
#2603 [16:38] <gPad2002> Why did they implement a session lock...?
#2604 [16:38] <Maxi50> server adminstraction
#2605 [16:38] <G2> Grey: http://pastebin.com/zau948E3
#2606 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> To prevent the same world from being accessed elsewhere
#2607 [16:38] <gPad2002> ??> Maxi50 ask
#2608 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Maxi50: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2609 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Maxi50: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2610 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> ie, a second server pointing to the same world
#2611 [16:38] <leba> @ grey ok and i have now refreshed my minecraft page and im in a world. http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=d99be2f9a22b40f3c0cdf7fea055c89a&override=true
#2612 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sec leba
#2613 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Sec leba... Seba
#2614 [16:39] <leba> ok
#2615 [16:39] <Maxi50> ok i am starting a new server and i need somoene to explain some things like how to put plugins
#2616 [16:39] <VoxelHead> I already have one of those.
#2617 [16:39] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#2618 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#2619 [16:39] <G2> Maxi50: Plugins are handled by bukkit
#2620 [16:39] * VoxelHead is back
#2620 [16:40] * gPad2002 gives VoxelHead a nice, hot cup of STFU
#2620 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> You're good to go leba
#2621 [16:40] <VoxelHead> GPad2002++
#2622 [16:40] <G2> Maxi50: or one of those other server wrappers
#2623 [16:40] <xales> Maxi50: We only provide support for the core game, if you need help with a plugin, read it's documentation or go to it's help channel
#2624 [16:40] <gPad2002> (For example, #bukkit )
#2625 [16:41] <leba> ok so all i do now is rename my server. get the link from the list,close server, switch to private then restart server
#2626 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> You already have the link from the list
#2627 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> You just gave it to us
#2628 [16:41] <leba> or does restarting the server give it a new link
#2629 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Now all you need to do is close the server, switch public to false
#2630 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> No
#2631 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> It's the same link
#2632 [16:42] <gPad2002> It saves it to a file doesn't it?
#2633 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Not this time
#2634 [16:42] <gPad2002> Pfft
#2635 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> It's been updated since minecraft went to beta
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#2637 [16:42] <leba> right ok will give it a go grey ty again
#2638 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> and mollstam updated the heartbeat server
#2639 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2640 [16:42] <gPad2002> They updated it?
#2641 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah gPad2002
#2642 [16:42] <gPad2002> What was changed?
#2643 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Just pointing the heartbeat connection to the new server
#2644 [16:43] <gPad2002> Oh.
#2645 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> as well as some under the hood stuff, mostly connections
#2646 [16:43] <gPad2002> Fair enough
#2647 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Decreasing the load
#2648 [16:43] <gPad2002> I think Notch wrote the webserver
#2649 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2650 [16:43] * gPad2002 wonders what was wrong with Apache or lighttpd
#2650 [16:43] <G2> Stable Multiplayer API? NOPE! Wolves!
#2651 [16:44] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2652 [16:44] <gPad2002> Indeed
#2653 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> They'll do a mod api, right after achivements
#2654 [16:44] <aetherian> don't diss the wolves
#2655 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> achievements*
#2656 [16:44] <Silverevilchao> found the problem
#2657 [16:44] <G2> You mean the wolves that crash servers if they fight each other?
#2658 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, really?
#2659 [16:44] <aetherian> yeah those ones
#2660 [16:45] * GreyVulpine goes on Kealper's server
#2660 [16:45] * aetherian doesn't know about that
#2660 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> apparently, if ibus-daemon is running during Minecraft, Minecraft can't read keyboard input for some reason
#2661 [16:45] <G2> I'm having a major issue getting my world to run for more than 5 minutes at a time since 1.4
#2662 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> http://code.duffy.jp/cant-use-your-keyboard-in-minecraft-in-linux/
#2663 [16:45] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Classic?
#2664 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> my keyboard works now
#2665 [16:45] <VoxelHead> well, You are a bottomless pit of questions.
#2666 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> gPad2002 - beta
#2667 [16:45] * Kealper goes on Kealper's server
#2667 [16:45] <gPad2002> I can play classic on my iPad
#2668 [16:45] <aetherian> haha
#2669 [16:45] <gPad2002> :P
#2670 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Curse you snacks... CURSE YOU$^~#@£.
#2671 [16:45] <G2> GreyVulpine: so no idea on my exception?
#2672 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#2673 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> okay, heading out now
#2674 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> :)
#2675 [16:45] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: Shut up
#2676 [16:45] <Silverevilchao> have a nice day!
#2677 [16:45] <VoxelHead> =]
#2678 [16:45] * Silverevilchao [Silverevilchao@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2679 [16:46] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#2679 [16:46] <G2> i remember the days of writing irc bots...
#2680 [16:46] <aetherian> .-.
#2681 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Sec
#2682 [16:46] <gPad2002> I am writing one :P
#2683 [16:46] <aetherian> I'd write one, but I actually wouldn't.
#2684 [16:46] <aetherian> :o
#2685 [16:46] <gPad2002> Lol
#2686 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Greybot's been my IRC bot since the beginning.
#2687 [16:46] <G2> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/SXb1z0xm
#2688 [16:46] <G2> Bonus round
#2689 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2690 [16:46] <G2> Too Many Open Files
#2691 [16:46] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: isn't that an mIRC bot?
#2692 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2693 [16:47] <gPad2002> Lol
#2694 [16:47] <gPad2002> Fail
#2695 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#2696 [16:47] <aetherian> hehehe
#2697 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Don't knock it... greybot's a good ol' friend
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#2699 [16:48] * aetherian knocks on GreyBot's front door
#2699 [16:48] <aetherian> knock knock
#2700 [16:48] <G2> I get the feeling my world is probably badly corrupted now
#2701 [16:48] <aetherian> and your mind, likely
#2702 [16:49] <G2> plenty of backups, hopefully they aren't screwed up too
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#2704 [16:50] <Ana> Hi guys~
#2705 [16:50] <Ana> Just a quick question c:
#2706 [16:50] <Kealper> o
#2707 [16:50] <gPad2002> Go for it
#2708 [16:50] <Kealper> :o
#2709 [16:50] <gPad2002> :P
#2710 [16:50] <Ana> what's the most up-to-date version of Creeper Nerf :o
#2711 [16:51] <Ana> Can't seem to find it;
#2712 [16:51] <gPad2002> Is that a mod?
#2713 [16:51] <Ana> Yessir.
#2714 [16:51] <gPad2002> It should be in the one-stop mod shop topic
#2715 [16:51] <gPad2002> On the forums
#2716 [16:51] <kruug> I'm looking to use my server, but it's currently running 1.3, and the download link on the website keeps giving me 1.3
#2717 [16:51] <Ana> Will look, thanks! :]
#2718 [16:52] <gPad2002> Welcome :P
#2719 [16:54] <bud> still got ten minutes left downloading the ubuntu OS lol
#2720 [16:55] <Ana> Lol last time my bud tried Ubuntu, it overwrote his Windows partition :v
#2721 [16:55] <gPad2002> :P
#2722 [16:55] <bud> didn't do that for me last time
#2723 [16:55] <Kealper> ya have to do it correctly :P
#2724 [16:56] <peru> i tried linux, couldn't get it to read&write my windows' ntfs partitions
#2725 [16:56] <bud> Kealp, you will make sure I do rite? I don't wanna fry my compy
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#2727 [16:56] <bud> lol
#2728 [16:56] <Ana> I think his installer was corrupt, because he's no noob to Linux and he set it to only designate so much space to Ubuntu. :v
#2729 [16:56] * bud drips a little sweat with eyebrows raised :O :)
#2729 [16:56] <Ana> His Grub was broken too.
#2730 [16:57] <gPad2002> Grub > the other one.. Lilo?
#2731 [16:57] <gPad2002> What's it called again?
#2732 [16:57] <gPad2002> Lol
#2733 [16:57] <Kealper> i think lilo
#2734 [16:57] <Kealper> sounds familiar
#2735 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> !wiki lilo
#2736 [16:57] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO_%28boot_loader%29
#2737 [16:57] <GreyBot> LILO (LInux LOader) is a generic boot loader for Linux.
#2738 [16:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#2738 [16:57] <gPad2002> :P
#2739 [16:58] * bud is nervous about programming school, hopes they will teach him all of this stuff hehe
#2739 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> For programming? Usually not
#2740 [16:58] <bud> :/
#2741 [16:59] <bud> its ok, I will study on my own, and learn it
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#2743 [16:59] <bud> I am taking IT and Programming classes
#2744 [16:59] <neviklink> i have a server issue
#2745 [17:00] <neviklink> with fences
#2746 [17:00] <Kealper> meh, programming classes arn't bad
#2747 [17:00] <Kealper> it helps to know the general concepts of programming beforehand though
#2748 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Nah, unless you're learning like fortran or something
#2749 [17:00] <Dark_Fox> gPad2002: Grub can load pretty much any kind of OS, whereas LiLo is designed specifically for Linux
#2750 [17:01] * Kealper shudders at fortran
#2750 [17:01] <gPad2002> Oic
#2751 [17:01] <neviklink> when i place fences form this etain spot on on down on that block level they appear invisible
#2752 [17:01] <neviklink> certain*
#2753 [17:01] <Dark_Fox> Kealper: It depends on what you mean by "programming classes"
#2754 [17:02] <bud> I have a bit of the basics down, I am tech savvy, though it my not seem like it
#2755 [17:02] <bud> lol
#2756 [17:02] <Dark_Fox> If it's a class on C/C++ basics, then it's a cakewalk.. But if you mean like, Programming Automata; Welcome to the nightmare
#2757 [17:02] <neviklink> anyone?
#2758 [17:02] <bud> Its a degree based program, going for my associate's in Compter Programming -Extended
#2759 [17:03] <Dark_Fox> It's like Calc3 and Math Proof theor duct taped together, with a raging hard-on for turing machines and O(n) timing
#2760 [17:03] <gPad2002> neviklink: Put a block next to them
#2761 [17:03] <Dark_Fox> theory, blech
#2762 [17:03] <Kealper> inb4 it's an ASM class
#2763 [17:03] <neviklink> r u sure it will work?
#2764 [17:03] <Dark_Fox> Kealper: What, were you thinking I was going to say ASM?
#2765 [17:04] <neviklink> woahh why did that fix it
#2766 [17:04] <Kealper> Dark_Fox: nah, was saying he could have potentially signed up for an ASM class...i'd laugh...lol
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#2768 [17:05] <Dark_Fox> Meh, ASM is weird
#2769 [17:05] <bud> Kealper: I have the Ubuntu downloaded, what was the ISO program?
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#2771 [17:05] <neviklink> gpad2002 why did that fix it?
#2772 [17:05] <Dark_Fox> The language itself is a cakewalk, but you have to actually know what r/w to specific addresses actually accomplishes
#2773 [17:05] <gPad2002> neviklink: Bug
#2774 [17:05] <Kealper> bud: http://poweriso.com
#2775 [17:05] <gPad2002> Brb teeth
#2776 [17:06] <Kealper> Dark_Fox: yeah, it's rather....involved for someone who hasn't touched a programming language before...lol
#2777 [17:06] <neviklink> neviklink im talking at myself
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#2781 [17:06] <Alfansor> Can someone direct me to some minecraft classic server mods?
#2782 [17:06] <Dark_Fox> A lot of college's I've seen won't have enough CS classes for a CS degree, and will patch it with excess math classes
#2783 [17:06] <leba> @Grey ty for your help, quick question does everybody spawn from the same point when they come on the server. Thinking i might make him a welcome message for tomorrow.
#2784 [17:07] <xales_> Eugh, I could never get used to this :|
#2785 [17:07] <BarryCarlyon> leba: people on first join to the do spawn at roughty the same point
#2786 [17:08] <leba> great thanks :-)
#2787 [17:08] * xales kicked xales_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Test)
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#2789 [17:08] <xales_> Derp
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#2791 [17:09] <Alfansor> Can someone direct me to minecaft classic mods
#2792 [17:10] <xales> Alfansor: Look on the forum
#2793 [17:10] <Alfansor> Theres no section for it
#2794 [17:10] <neviklink> does bed spwn work on smp
#2795 [17:10] <Alfansor> I went o the mods section
#2796 [17:10] <Alfansor> And theres mostly survival mods
#2797 [17:10] <Alfansor> Couldnt find any classic ones
#2798 [17:10] <Alfansor> Id be really greatfull if you could link just one :P or direct me to find one
#2799 [17:11] <G2> Any help with these issues? http://pastebin.com/SXb1z0xm
#2800 [17:11] <xales> G2: What are you running the server on? a VPS?
#2801 [17:11] <G2> Debian
#2802 [17:11] <xales> neviklink: Yes
#2803 [17:11] <G2> net install
#2804 [17:11] <xales> G2: Do you have other things running on the server?
#2805 [17:12] <G2> Nope, just Minecraft
#2806 [17:12] <neviklink> xales then why does the compass not point ot bed
#2807 [17:12] <xales> And is it a physical server/
#2808 [17:12] <G2> Its in a VM
#2809 [17:12] <xales> neviklink: You have to click "leave bed" to set your spawn point
#2810 [17:12] <xales> G2: That's the problem then
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#2812 [17:12] <neviklink> xales thanks
#2813 [17:12] <G2> I fail to see how running in a VM is a problem?
#2814 [17:12] <xales> The VM doesn't have enough file descriptors available
#2815 [17:12] <G2> It's been running for 3-4 months...
#2816 [17:12] <neviklink> does anyone need a server to play on
#2817 [17:13] <xales> java.net.SocketException: Too many open files
#2818 [17:13] <G2> Alright...so how would I go about fixing that
#2819 [17:13] <G2> It seems like that would be in Debian and not the VM
#2820 [17:13] <xales> No, it would be the VM
#2821 [17:13] <xales> You would need to change the configuration of the VM, which is outside the scope of what we can help with
#2822 [17:14] <xales> If you don't are only renting just the VM, you won't be able to do that
#2823 [17:14] <xales> err
#2824 [17:14] <xales> if you are only*
#2825 [17:14] <xales> -don't
#2826 [17:14] <G2> Its not a rented VM, it's my box
#2827 [17:14] <Dark_Fox> Totally no idea what you just said, xales
#2828 [17:14] <G2> never ran into this issue before running VM's before...
#2829 [17:15] <xales> Well, the issue is there now, which is what matters
#2830 [17:15] <gPad2002> ...?
#2831 [17:16] <gPad2002> Who?
#2832 [17:16] <neviklink> xales: it did not work when i hit leave bed
#2833 [17:16] <xales> Bot keeps shutting down and reconnecting
#2834 [17:16] <xales> neviklink: The compass may not point to it, I don't know
#2835 [17:18] <G2> xales: great, minecraft isn't closing file descriptors for some reason...
#2836 [17:18] <neviklink> Xales: you were right
#2837 [17:19] <xales> Oh wow, Kealper
#2838 [17:19] <xales> I just LOL'd SO HARD
#2839 [17:19] <xales> that bot..joins channels from /list
#2840 [17:19] <xales> right down the top, the first 30 channels
#2841 [17:19] <xales> it's in all of them
#2842 [17:19] <gPad2002> xD
#2843 [17:19] <Kealper> someone is totally making a spambot.....lol
#2844 [17:20] <neviklink> whats the bot called
#2845 [17:20] <xales> neviklink: st-*
#2846 [17:22] <xales> Kealper: brb reporting bot
#2847 [17:24] <Kealper> lol
#2848 [17:24] <mitpatterson> anyone notice that 1.4 seems to be more buggy in terms of crashes than 1.3?
#2849 [17:25] <neviklink> i havent relly ahd a crash but it does slow down servers more
#2850 [17:25] <neviklink> and pumpkins are still backwards
#2851 [17:25] <mitpatterson> i've had it crash 3 times since the update came out, but i never had 1.3 crash in the week i owned that
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#2853 [17:26] <neviklink> hopefully there is a patch for 1.4
#2854 [17:26] <mitpatterson> agreed
#2855 [17:26] <mitpatterson> and hopefully he will fix some of the issues with the wolfs
#2856 [17:26] <G2> theres a lot of broken stuff with 1.4
#2857 [17:26] <neviklink> yeah they wont shut up
#2858 [17:26] <neviklink> and sometimes they are standing when sittinf
#2859 [17:26] <pouniiechier> Every time i log into a server i fall into nothingness. This does not happen on single player. What do i do?
#2860 [17:26] <VoxelHead> Cheese.
#2861 [17:27] <G2> tbh, if they couldn't implement the code for everything
#2862 [17:27] <G2> they should have waited
#2863 [17:27] <neviklink> just wit it out it stops eventuilly
#2864 [17:27] <G2> the dropping is the way the world loads on the server
#2865 [17:27] <mitpatterson> not cool, the game crashed, and i relaunched it, and now i'm being killed by something(sounds like i'm being sophocated(sp)
#2866 [17:27] <G2> it loads from the farthest point first, then comes towards you
#2867 [17:27] <neviklink> i had that issue too its ussually when yopu start a new map
#2868 [17:27] <pouniiechier> but i waited for it to load
#2869 [17:28] <G2> bukkit changes the way it works to load from a spiral around you
#2870 [17:28] <Kealper> mitpatterson: you're probably inside some dirt or sand
#2871 [17:28] <G2> aka DEAD
#2872 [17:28] <Kealper> ^
#2873 [17:28] <mitpatterson> Kealper, well dirt doesn't sphocate you
#2874 [17:28] <G2> it crushes
#2875 [17:28] <mitpatterson> but i was digging in stone when it happened
#2876 [17:28] <Kealper> yes it does, if you somehow manage to get stuck in it
#2877 [17:28] <mitpatterson> well yah
#2878 [17:28] <G2> either way, dead
#2879 [17:28] <mitpatterson> but dirt doesn't obay gravity
#2880 [17:29] <neviklink> i have also had the problem where a giant square leding to the bottom is cut into the land if you jum,p in you get stuck
#2881 [17:29] <mitpatterson> but i was digging in stone when it happened, what happens if it gets me stuck in stone?
#2882 [17:29] <Kealper> if your game crashed while you were mining, the changes were probably undone, and it got you stuck
#2883 [17:29] <Guest3949> nick dave123
#2884 [17:29] <relsqui> (fwiw, "suffocate")
#2885 [17:29] <neviklink> to fix it i just exited sever
#2886 [17:29] <G2> exceptions for everyone!
#2887 [17:29] <mitpatterson> my guess is (and i've seen it before to my self) is that it loads the location of me, but not the blocks i had removed recently, so mabey it pulled my location, and it would be "inside" the stone
#2888 [17:29] <DaveT> hi have a problem with huge lag on the new server files im running a quad core windows xp box
#2889 [17:30] <Kealper> mitpatterson: that's what i basically just said lol
#2890 [17:30] <DaveT> how to I give the server more ram?
#2891 [17:31] <mitpatterson> Kealper, and the bad thing is, i haven't been on this map long, so i don't have much built up, so if my stuff is stuck, i won't have any tools
#2892 [17:31] <Kealper> DaveT: are you running the jar or the exe?
#2893 [17:31] <VoxelHead> What is it with these silly questions? Anyway, let's talk about dicks! I've got this pretty nice seven incher...
#2894 [17:31] <DaveT> Kealper the .exe
#2895 [17:31] <Kealper> ._.
#2896 [17:31] <mitpatterson> WTF voxel
#2897 [17:31] <G2> :\
#2898 [17:31] <neviklink> voxel wtf
#2899 [17:31] <neviklink> caqn you kick him?
#2900 [17:32] <raskull> rofl
#2901 [17:32] <Kealper> DaveT: use the jar
#2902 [17:32] <TobiX> VoxelHead: Shut the fuck up
#2903 [17:32] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#2904 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#2905 [17:32] <mitpatterson> wait, are curse words alowed in here?
#2906 [17:32] <DaveT> Kealper "i dont have the files in the new install
#2907 [17:32] <DaveT> Kealper "it just put the .exe in the folder
#2908 [17:32] <Kealper> http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#2909 [17:33] <mitpatterson> hmm, i don't see my tools, but it definity revereted back in terms of alot of the blocks back to where they were
#2910 [17:33] <G2> my world is 800mb...thats getting large
#2911 [17:33] <TobiX> Sorry. But that was a bit much...
#2912 [17:33] <Kealper> !server DaveT download the thing AuBot is going to link...get the .jar one
#2913 [17:33] <Kealper> G2: single player or multi?
#2914 [17:34] <DaveT> Kealper "thanks
#2915 [17:34] <neviklink> how do i register my nick
#2916 [17:34] <Kealper> /msg nickserv help register
#2917 [17:34] <Kealper> type that, press enter
#2918 [17:34] <G2> Kealper: multi
#2919 [17:34] <Kealper> G2: oh lol
#2920 [17:35] <gPad2002> I wonder
#2921 [17:35] <G2> if only it'd stay running...
#2922 [17:35] <gPad2002> If iOS java can host a server
#2923 [17:35] <gPad2002> I'm gonna try it
#2924 [17:35] <G2> gonna run off an ipad?
#2925 [17:35] <G2> that will only end in tears
#2926 [17:35] <gPad2002> We shall see
#2927 [17:35] <Kealper> if that actually starts....that's going to be so laggy lol
#2928 [17:35] <gPad2002> I got python working flawlessly
#2929 [17:35] <Kealper> if you get it, gimme the ip so i can try it lol
#2930 [17:35] <gPad2002> Lol, we shall see..
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#2932 [17:35] <gPad2002> :P
#2933 [17:35] <G2> wooo...python...
#2934 [17:35] <gPad2002> And I have java
#2935 [17:35] <gPad2002> So..
#2936 [17:35] <DaveT> whats the recommend ram for it to run smooth?
#2937 [17:36] * gPad2002 tests
#2937 [17:36] <G2> >1024
#2938 [17:36] <G2> 2gb for me atm
#2939 [17:36] <Kealper> DaveT: 1024MB, which is what the exe launchest it with
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#2941 [17:36] <Kealper> launches*
#2942 [17:36] <DaveT> @Kealper ok might be back in a sec if I have problems
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#2944 [17:39] <xales> Kealper: flea thinks that bot was a spambot being blocked from sending anything because charybdis is epic
#2945 [17:39] <DaveT> option to turn off the gui?
#2946 [17:39] <neviklink> f1
#2947 [17:39] <Kealper> xales: oh, awesome lol
#2948 [17:40] <neviklink> does anyone know davbomb
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#2951 [17:44] <gPad2002> Meh
#2952 [17:44] <gPad2002> I will try this laterr
#2953 [17:44] <gPad2002> Got other stuff to do
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#2955 [17:45] <bud> Kealper, I have both now, how do I put them together again?
#2956 [17:46] <Kealper> bud: right click the ubuntu .iso file, mouse over PowerISO, then select mount to device
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#2958 [17:47] <Kealper> bud: open the Computer window, double click on the virtual drive that now has the ubuntu iso loaded, it will pop up a setup window
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#2960 [17:48] <bud> install inside windows rite?
#2961 [17:48] <Kealper> yeah
#2962 [17:48] <bud> should I allow 17 gigs? i have192 gigs free
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#2964 [17:49] <Kealper> 17 is overkill...just do like 4 -r 8
#2965 [17:50] <Kealper> 4 or 8*
#2966 [17:50] <bud> kk thanks
#2967 [17:52] <neviklink> do you guys work for mojnag?
#2968 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> No we don't.
#2969 [17:52] <bud> ok, rebooting to finish up in there
#2970 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> We're community-run support, officially recognized by Mojang, but we're not employed by them
#2971 [17:52] <neviklink> noone on this channeldoews?
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#2973 [17:52] <Kealper> mollstam does
#2974 [17:52] <bud> they are the best support group on the interwebs
#2975 [17:52] <VoidingNixx> hola o/
#2976 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2977 [17:53] <Kealper> \o
#2978 [17:53] <VoidingNixx> will minecraft 1.4 update an older map... such as from 1.2?
#2979 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes VoidingNixx
#2980 [17:53] <VoidingNixx> mine isn't.. is there some trick?
#2981 [17:53] <G2> 4gb for his install?
#2982 [17:53] <G2> lol
#2983 [17:53] <VoidingNixx> I played the old world folder on the server and pointed the server.properties to the world folder... but it just creates a new world into that folder ;p
#2984 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Um, it's usually automatic, whether you load it in the SMP server, or the SP
#2985 [17:53] <VoidingNixx> played = placed
#2986 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> VoidingNixx - You didn't place the folder inside the folder, correct?
#2987 [17:54] <VoxelHead> you wish
#2988 [17:54] <Kealper> VoidingNixx: make sure the folder name is the same as the one being loaded in server.properties
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#2990 [17:54] <VoidingNixx> it is. It is loading new files into the folder. In the world folder are three folders 0 1 and 10 from the old world format
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#2993 [17:55] <VoidingNixx> from when there were like 10,000 files for a world ;p
#2994 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> As well as level.dat, correct?
#2995 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> From the old world
#2996 [17:55] <VoidingNixx> hmm... noe level.dat
#2997 [17:55] <Kealper> the world isn't fully copied
#2998 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2999 [17:56] <VoidingNixx> ahh, thanks
#3000 [17:56] <Panpz> Hello
#3001 [17:56] <Kealper> hi
#3002 [17:56] <VoxelHead> mmm G2
#3003 [17:56] <Panpz> could somebody help me ?
#3004 [17:56] <VoidingNixx> you're right... it was from a bad backup ;D thanks a lot
#3005 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Panpz - With?
#3006 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Glad to help VoidingNixx.
#3007 [17:57] <Panpz> I've got a strange problem
#3008 [17:57] <neviklink> are there any unstated server ommands
#3009 [17:57] <Panpz> (sorry for my english)
#3010 [17:57] <Panpz> my client look to be lagging
#3011 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> neviklink - Aside from the "help" command, nope
#3012 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Everything else, you'll need to mod the server to get
#3013 [17:57] <Panpz> on every PC i try
#3014 [17:58] <Kealper> Panpz: when you say lag, is everything very delayed on multiplayer? or is everything really choppy and not good?
#3015 [17:58] <Panpz> everything delayed in multi
#3016 [17:58] <Panpz> just for me
#3017 [17:59] <neviklink> how do i fix the problem whn my esc key wont open the muneu
#3018 [17:59] <Kealper> go to http://speedtest.net and run a test, then put the result link in here
#3019 [17:59] <VoidingNixx> neviklink: that is usually caused by a program running in the background.
#3020 [17:59] <VoidingNixx> ie: photoshop ;p
#3021 [17:59] <neviklink> oh ok so just close that one?
#3022 [17:59] <neviklink> ohhhh so thats why
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#3024 [18:00] <Panpz> i think it will be cool, im playing wiith a friend on his internet connection. on the same server. but im laggy and he's not
#3025 [18:00] <Kealper> Panpz: go to http://speedtest.net and run a test, then put the result link in here
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#3027 [18:01] <Panpz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1234879260.png
#3028 [18:01] <Panpz> i was making this
#3029 [18:01] <Panpz> ;)
#3030 [18:01] <VoxelHead> =D
#3031 [18:01] <Kealper> hmm...does your friend have the same internet?
#3032 [18:02] <neviklink> is it possible to place snow agian
#3033 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Place snow..?
#3034 [18:02] <Kealper> neviklink: only way to replenish snow is to give yourself the block and place it yourself
#3035 [18:03] <neviklink> so you have to place big block instead of flat thnig
#3036 [18:03] <Panpz> yes kealper
#3037 [18:03] <Kealper> Panpz: that upload speed is not good for hosting a server...
#3038 [18:03] <Panpz> when i play on his/my client = lag
#3039 [18:03] <Panpz> when he play on his client there is no problems
#3040 [18:03] <Kealper> Panpz: just to test, join the server mc.kealper.com and see if it lags for you
#3041 [18:03] <Panpz> is a distant server
#3042 [18:04] <Panpz> its just client side problem
#3043 [18:04] <Panpz> but... :/
#3044 [18:04] <Panpz> its f strange
#3045 [18:04] <Panpz> ok
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#3047 [18:07] <neviklink> ahhhhh yeti attack
#3048 [18:08] <neviklink> how can one tell if they her a spwner or its just a cave
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#3050 [18:12] <xales> neviklink: there is no noise for spawners/dungeons
#3051 [18:12] <neviklink> ?
#3052 [18:12] <xales> the ambience just means there is a completely dark area nearby
#3053 [18:13] <neviklink> whats that supposed to mean
#3054 [18:13] <neviklink> so if i her zombie noises its just a dark cave?
#3055 [18:14] <raskull> the ambient noises just means there's an unlit room at least 3 cubic meters, If you hear zombies, it just means there is zombies.. could be a spawner, but moght not be
#3056 [18:15] <neviklink> so the only spwners are skeltons zombies and spiders?
#3057 [18:15] <raskull> yeah
#3058 [18:15] <neviklink> i wishe there was a creepers spwner
#3059 [18:15] <raskull> no you don't :P
#3060 [18:15] <neviklink> thay sohuld mek em out of obsidian
#3061 [18:16] <neviklink> yes id do free gp any time
#3062 [18:16] <raskull> just make a mob grinder
#3063 [18:18] <neviklink> mob grinder?
#3064 [18:18] <raskull> yup.. have a search for it on youtube, there's lots of tutorials
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#3066 [18:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
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#3069 [18:24] <anon_unicornz> how do i get minecraft beta?
#3070 [18:25] <xales> http://minecraft.net/
#3071 [18:25] <raskull> you can buy it from minecraft.net
#3072 [18:25] <xales> You buy it, then download it, then play it
#3073 [18:25] <anon_unicornz> ive tried to buy it but it wont except my credit card.
#3074 [18:25] <anon_unicornz> because the payment is in euro
#3075 [18:25] <xales> It will accept most cards, excluding prepaid cards
#3076 [18:25] <raskull> is it a pre-pay card, or a normal one?
#3077 [18:26] <xales> We can't help you with that, anyway. Call your bank.
#3078 [18:26] <raskull> some banks don't allow online transations unless you turn the feature on
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#3080 [18:29] <XDJacobDX> Hello, can anyone help me with a problem about Minecraft loading?
#3081 [18:29] <raskull> what's your issue XDJacobDX?
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#3083 [18:31] <XDJacobDX> I have not purchased the full version of Minecraft, so I am using the online version and everytime I load the webpage, a message comes up and asks if I want to run this Java Applet and so I choose Allow. After, IT just shows a black square. It appears as if it doesnt load.
#3084 [18:31] <raskull> what version of java are you running?
#3085 [18:32] <XDJacobDX> Btw I'm on a Mac. One sec let me check.
#3086 [18:32] <xales> XDJacobDX: What version of OS X?
#3087 [18:32] <XDJacobDX> 10.6.7
#3088 [18:33] <xales> Try a different browser?
#3089 [18:33] <XDJacobDX> I have tried Safari and Firefox.
#3090 [18:33] <XDJacobDX> Neither of them worked.
#3091 [18:34] <xales> Make a new user account and try under that
#3092 [18:34] <XDJacobDX> On a rare occasion it will load and if I refresh or choose another server it doesn't work.
#3093 [18:34] <XDJacobDX> Okay, I will try that.
#3094 [18:35] <raskull> you also need to make sure you're running the latest java version, and the latest video deivers for your graphics card
#3095 [18:35] <XDJacobDX> Yes I have checked more than one.
#3096 [18:36] <XDJacobDX> I just wish I could play. lol
#3097 [18:37] <XDJacobDX> Crap, the new account didn't work.
#3098 [18:37] <XDJacobDX> Maybe it is just my OS.
#3099 [18:38] <raskull> can you check your actual java version for me? I'm not sure how to do it on a mac though
#3100 [18:38] <XDJacobDX> Sure, I'll look it up. Might be a minute.
#3101 [18:39] <xales> XDJacobDX: You made a new system user account, not Minecraft account, correct?
#3102 [18:39] <XDJacobDX> Yes. Well I used the guest account.
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#3106 [18:41] <XDJacobDX> I found the Java version, it is 1.6.0_24
#3107 [18:42] <TheMonty> How do I get the minecraft server jar?
#3108 [18:42] <raskull> TheMonty: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3109 [18:42] <TheMonty> thanks raskull
#3110 [18:43] <Alfansor> Anyone here have expirience with MCLawl?
#3111 [18:45] <xales> Alfansor: We don't provide any support with third party software, sorry
#3112 [18:46] <XDJacobDX> Well, I guess I better go. Thanks xales and raskull for trying. :)
#3113 [18:46] <raskull> XDJacobDX
#3114 [18:46] <XDJacobDX> I appreciate your effort.
#3115 [18:47] <raskull> you're on the latest version of java (which you prob knew), you might want to try making a thread
#3116 [18:47] <raskull> on minecraftforum.net
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#3118 [18:47] <XDJacobDX> Okay I will later, but as of right now I have to leave. Bye
#3119 [18:47] <raskull> l8r
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#3127 [19:08] <Alfansor> my server isnt showing up on the servers list :S
#3128 [19:08] <xales> Is it a Beta server?
#3129 [19:08] <Alfansor> creative
#3130 [19:09] <xales> Did you set it to "private"?
#3131 [19:09] <Alfansor> port = 25565
#3132 [19:09] <Alfansor> verify-names = true
#3133 [19:09] <Alfansor> public = true
#3134 [19:09] <Alfansor> max-players = 16
#3135 [19:09] <Alfansor> max-maps = 5
#3136 [19:10] <Alfansor> its public right
#3137 [19:10] <xales> I don't know
#3138 [19:10] <xales> Did you set a server name in the file?
#3139 [19:10] <Alfansor> yeah
#3140 [19:11] <xales> Does the server generate an externalurl.txt file?
#3141 [19:11] <Alfansor> erm no
#3142 [19:11] <Alfansor> im using mclawl
#3143 [19:11] <Alfansor> and set my mysql
#3144 [19:11] <gPad2002> Did you give it time to heartbeat?
#3145 [19:12] <Alfansor> yeah
#3146 [19:12] <Alfansor> it sayd (19:12:30) URL found:
#3147 [19:12] <Alfansor> and doesnt give a URL
#3148 [19:12] <Alfansor> in mclawl
#3149 [19:12] <gPad2002> Lol
#3150 [19:12] <gPad2002> Isn't McLawl dead now?
#3151 [19:12] <xales> We can't help if you arent using the official server, sorry
#3152 [19:13] <xales> gPad2002: Stupidest name for server software...ever.
#3153 [19:13] <gPad2002> Indeed
#3154 [19:13] <gPad2002> Well no
#3155 [19:13] <gPad2002> Myne, iCraft
#3156 [19:13] <gPad2002> :P
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#3158 [19:13] <xales> McLawl is the worst by far, lol
#3159 [19:13] <gPad2002> lol
#3160 [19:13] <xales> I mean, really? "Lawl"?
#3161 [19:14] <gPad2002> Ever used myne?
#3162 [19:14] <VoxelHead> who knows
#3163 [19:14] <NicoliPace> Hey.
#3164 [19:14] <gPad2002> I helped write it :P
#3165 [19:14] <NicoliPace> I need help.
#3166 [19:14] <xales> NicoliPace: With?
#3167 [19:14] <NicoliPace> You guys do that right?
#3168 [19:14] <gPad2002> ?? ask
#3169 [19:14] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3170 [19:14] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3171 [19:14] <NicoliPace> Ok.
#3172 [19:14] <Alfansor> whats myne?
#3173 [19:14] <NicoliPace> Well my multiplayer is dead to the extent that when I try to connect to a multiplayer server...
#3174 [19:14] <gPad2002> Custom server written in python
#3175 [19:15] <NicoliPace> I get this enormous error:
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#3177 [19:15] <gPad2002> NicoliPace: Pastebin
#3178 [19:15] <NicoliPace> (bunch of stuff off screen I can't see) type<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC"-/W3C//CTD XXHTML 1.0 Strict//EN""http://www.w3.com/tr/xhtml/DTD/xhtml.(bunch of stuff off screen)
#3179 [19:15] <gPad2002> Oh
#3180 [19:15] <gPad2002> Lol
#3181 [19:15] <gPad2002> Heartbeat is down
#3182 [19:15] <Alfansor> Bah i just want to run a server
#3183 [19:15] <gPad2002> Alfansor: There's your problem
#3184 [19:15] <Alfansor> why is this so difficult
#3185 [19:16] <Alfansor> what?
#3186 [19:16] <Sintel> does any know if its possible to add mods to a non craftbukkit server?
#3187 [19:16] <gPad2002> MC.net heartbeat is down
#3188 [19:16] <Alfansor> oo
#3189 [19:16] <Alfansor> refreshed and found it
#3190 [19:16] <Alfansor> yay :D
#3191 [19:16] <gPad2002> Sintel: Yes, but its a pain in the ass
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#3193 [19:16] <NicoliPace> (bunch of stuff off screen I can't see) type<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC"-/W3C//CTD XXHTML 1.0 Strict//EN""http://www.w3.com/tr/xhtml/DTD/xhtml.(bunch of stuff off screen)
#3194 [19:16] <NicoliPace> What is this^^?
#3195 [19:16] <Sintel> oh that sucks
#3196 [19:16] <xales> NicoliPace: Can you take a screenshot of it?
#3197 [19:16] <gPad2002> NicoliPace: Its an error page
#3198 [19:16] <NicoliPace> How do you screenshot?
#3199 [19:17] <xales> Are you using Windows?
#3200 [19:17] <gPad2002> ?? Index
#3201 [19:17] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#3202 [19:17] <NicoliPace> YEs
#3203 [19:17] <Sintel> well is there a way to safely convert a non bukkit server to bukkit without destroying the world?
#3204 [19:17] <xales> Sintel: Just follow the instructions
#3205 [19:17] <xales> it will not destroy the world
#3206 [19:17] <xales> but make a backup just in case
#3207 [19:17] <xales> NicoliPace: http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#3208 [19:17] <gPad2002> ?? Mc.net/authdown
#3209 [19:17] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#3210 [19:18] <gPad2002> Blagh
#3211 [19:18] <gPad2002> xales: Document the FAQ properly :P
#3212 [19:18] <xales> gPad2002: Tell DopeGhoti that
#3213 [19:18] <gPad2002> :P
#3214 [19:20] <Valurog> hi, i have a problem with my server, is this help english or german ?
#3215 [19:20] <Alfansor> Got the server running whopee
#3216 [19:20] <NicoliPace> IT isn't working.
#3217 [19:21] <xales> Valurog: Primarily English, but someone may speak German who can help you
#3218 [19:21] <xales> NicoliPace: Try this then
#3219 [19:21] <xales> Press Win+R (the win key is between Control and Alt) and type 'cmd'
#3220 [19:21] <xales> In the black command prompt window, type 'ping minecraft.net'
#3221 [19:21] <xales> The first line will say 'Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]' where xx.xx.xx.xx is a series of numbers
#3222 [19:22] <xales> Can you write here exactly what it says there?
#3223 [19:22] <Alfansor> whats that thign that lets you make maps?
#3224 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> makes maps?
#3225 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is a good beta map editor
#3226 [19:22] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#3227 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Omen is a pretty decent classic map editor
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#3229 [19:23] <Alfansor> Omen alright ty
#3230 [19:23] <NicoliPace> 50.16.203.217
#3231 [19:23] <NicoliPace> that is the number.
#3232 [19:24] <NicoliPace> four of them
#3233 [19:24] <Valurog> ok, my english is not good, my server runs without error, but I can not use my Client Connect, there is written, "failed to connect to the server, connection refused: connect"
#3234 [19:24] <Alex_> Hello.
#3235 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Valurog - How are you connecting to your server?
#3236 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Alex_ - 'lo
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#3238 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Do you really want to know that?
#3239 [19:25] <NicoliPace> bytes=32 timexales
#3240 [19:25] <NicoliPace> xales
#3241 [19:25] <NicoliPace> any ideas
#3242 [19:25] <Alex_> Got a question here. You see, I want to change the spawn position of my server's level.dat to different cords, but I can't find an editor that will edit server's level.dat's
#3243 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Alex_ - MCedit will do that
#3244 [19:25] <Alex_> I tried MCEdit
#3245 [19:25] <Alex_> But it's not allowing me to set to point to cords
#3246 [19:25] <Valurog> with my beta v1.4 Client, windows 7 64x
#3247 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> It can edit the spawn point. the button on the lower bar, on the far right will do that
#3248 [19:26] <Alex_> GreyVulpine
#3249 [19:26] <Alex_> I mean
#3250 [19:26] <Alex_> I need to set the spawn spot
#3251 [19:26] <Alex_> cordinates
#3252 [19:26] <Alex_> Can MCEdit do that?
#3253 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know
#3254 [19:26] <Alex_> oh
#3255 [19:26] <xales> ??> NicoliPace win/reinst
#3256 [19:26] <VoxelHead> NicoliPace: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3257 [19:26] <VoxelHead> NicoliPace: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3258 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't see why you want to do the coordinates, instead of using the graphical way of MCedit
#3259 [19:27] <Alex_> GreyVulpien
#3260 [19:27] <Alex_> because
#3261 [19:27] <Alex_> I transferred my map
#3262 [19:27] <Alex_> from my desktop
#3263 [19:27] <Alex_> to my server
#3264 [19:27] <Alex_> and
#3265 [19:27] <Valurog> GreyVulpine the server is running of linux debian and my client ist of windows
#3266 [19:27] <Alex_> the spawn point
#3267 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> For the love of, use a comma instead of the enter key
#3268 [19:28] <Alex_> Or I may have done it wrong...
#3269 [19:29] <Alex_> You see, I'm trying to transfer a map I made within the singleplayer to my multiplayer server.
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#3271 [19:29] <Alex_> Would that require some sort of converter?
#3272 [19:29] <Valurog> the ports are set up, but I still can not even Connecten
#3273 [19:29] <Potus2036> Hey this is NicoliPace on my Minecraft username
#3274 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Alex_ - Nope
#3275 [19:30] <Potus2036> I uninstalled .minecraft entirely
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#3277 [19:30] <Alex_> GreyVulpine, it doesn't seem to be working.
#3278 [19:30] <Potus2036> Is that ok?
#3279 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Alex_ - Define, doesn't work.
#3280 [19:31] <Alex_> Well, when I connect, I fall from the sky for several minutes, until I finally land on a block, but it's not my spawnpoint
#3281 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> The last time you exited your single player game is not the spawn point.
#3282 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> The spawn point that the MP server uses, is the same spawn point you first enter your SP world with
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#3284 [19:31] <Alex_> yes
#3285 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> It's the same point
#3286 [19:31] <VoxelHead> bye FFLaguna
#3287 [19:31] <Alex_> I understand that, I changed it.
#3288 [19:32] <Alex_> I'll try it again...
#3289 [19:32] <xales> Valurog: It means you are trying to connect to the wrong IP or port, or that a firewall is blocking it
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#3291 [19:33] <l3ki> hey
#3292 [19:33] <l3ki> I need help
#3293 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3294 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3295 [19:33] <l3ki> Everytime I turn on mine crafty
#3296 [19:33] <l3ki> I get this
#3297 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> mine crafty?
#3298 [19:33] <l3ki> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 4/3/11 4:28 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.4 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_24, S
#3299 [19:33] <Valurog> the firewall of the server are enabled by and my windows, I just read the other players also get this error message
#3300 [19:34] <l3ki> thats what i got
#3301 [19:34] <l3ki> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 4/3/11 4:28 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.4 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_24, S
#3302 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Please stop pasting that
#3303 [19:34] <l3ki> .
#3304 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Update your video drivers
#3305 [19:34] <l3ki> how
#3306 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Please give us this:
#3307 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#3308 [19:34] <xales> Valurog: Then the server is not set up correctly
#3309 [19:34] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3310 [19:34] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#3312 [19:36] <Potus2036> Ok.
#3313 [19:36] <Potus2036> Not working.
#3314 [19:36] <Alex_> It still isn't properly working
#3315 [19:36] <Potus2036> Xales.
#3316 [19:36] <Alex_> I fall for a while
#3317 [19:36] <Alex_> then land on bugged land
#3318 [19:36] <xales> ?
#3319 [19:36] <l3ki> ok uploading in pastebin
#3320 [19:36] <Valurog> xales the server was downloaded again from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp and started without error with the start script of http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script
#3321 [19:36] <Alex_> that's way up in the sky..
#3322 [19:36] <Potus2036> Valurog
#3323 [19:36] <Potus2036> Anymore suggestions?
#3324 [19:36] <Valurog> xades the server has no mods
#3325 [19:36] <xales> Valurog: You are connecting to the wrong IP or port, or the server has a firewall blocking it, as I said
#3326 [19:37] <l3ki> http://pastebin.com/CHt7GvvR
#3327 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Alex - There's nothing over the spawn point, correct?
#3328 [19:37] <l3ki> there you go
#3329 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> The spawn point is on solid ground, and it's not inside something, right?
#3330 [19:38] <l3ki> Grey.http://pastebin.com/CHt7GvvR
#3331 [19:38] <xales> l3ki: You can try updating the driver, but it is unlikely it will run. Your computer is nowhere near the minimum requirements for Minecraft
#3332 [19:38] <Alex_> GreyVulpine, I believe it's in a building
#3333 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Alex_ - It cannot be in a building
#3334 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> It must be outside, not inside a building, with nothing overhead
#3335 [19:38] <l3ki> what do u mean
#3336 [19:39] <l3ki> It worked before
#3337 [19:39] <l3ki> Before I updated to Win7
#3338 [19:39] <l3ki> I was running win xp
#3339 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> How in the world...
#3340 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> You've only got a gig of ram?
#3341 [19:39] <xales> Your computer doesn't even meet the requirements to run Windows 7
#3342 [19:39] <VoxelHead> no.
#3343 [19:39] <xales> Voxel, shut u[
#3344 [19:39] <xales> Voxel, shut uo
#3345 [19:39] <xales> gah
#3346 [19:39] <Alex_> I've only got a gig of ram too
#3347 [19:39] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#3348 [19:39] <l3ki> Im running it right now..
#3349 [19:39] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#3349 [19:39] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#3350 [19:39] <Alex_> Minecraft runs fine, no problem on Windows 7
#3351 [19:39] <l3ki> .......
#3352 [19:40] <Alex_> /w 1 gig of ram
#3353 [19:40] <Alfansor> i have a question
#3354 [19:40] <xales> l3ki: "run" it, sure. Do much else? no
#3355 [19:40] <Alex_> I ran it on 512MB too.
#3356 [19:40] <Alfansor> how do i main a .lvl format of a minecraft classic map?
#3357 [19:40] <Valurog> xales I have entered the correct ip and port and firewall on the server I'm on the white list, which is server port in the firewall also released
#3358 [19:40] <xales> Alex_: Unless you did something really weird, you did not
#3359 [19:40] <xales> The game will not even start with that little RAM
#3360 [19:40] <Alex_> xales
#3361 [19:40] <Alex_> It was a bit slow
#3362 [19:41] <xales> "a bit"
#3363 [19:41] <Alfansor> how do i main a .lvl format of a minecraft classic map?
#3364 [19:41] <Alex_> and it was on Linux
#3365 [19:41] <Alex_> But it did run
#3366 [19:41] <l3ki> run as "administrator"?
#3367 [19:41] <Alex_> with no programs running
#3368 [19:41] <xales> well, there you go
#3369 [19:41] <Alfansor> how do i main a .lvl format of a minecraft classic map?
#3370 [19:41] <xales> it certainly won't run on Windows like that
#3371 [19:41] <Alex_> xales, I knew that
#3372 [19:41] <xales> Alfansor: Don't keep asking if you don't get an answer in 5 seconds. I don't know
#3373 [19:41] <Alex_> That's why I put linux on the machine.
#3374 [19:41] <Alex_> Windows is naturally a RAM hog
#3375 [19:42] <Alex_> and all the services
#3376 [19:42] <l3ki> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerInfo.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsDisplay.createWindow(WindowsDisplay.java:185) at org.lwjgl
#3377 [19:42] <l3ki> thats the main problem
#3378 [19:42] <l3ki> Failed to get system properties
#3379 [19:43] <Potus2036> THIS IS NICOLIPACE! IT ISN'T WORKING!!!!
#3380 [19:43] <xales> Yes, again
#3381 [19:43] <Potus2036> Anybody know what to do?
#3382 [19:43] <xales> l3ki: you can try updating the graphics card driver, but again, do not expect it to work
#3383 [19:43] <xales> Potus2036: one second
#3384 [19:43] <l3ki> how do i update it?
#3385 [19:43] <xales> Potus2036: what username are you logging in with?
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#3387 [19:43] <l3ki> xales how do i update it
#3388 [19:43] <Alex_> Update your graphics driver
#3389 [19:44] <Potus2036> POtus2036
#3390 [19:44] <Potus2036> PM me. We will talk there xales
#3391 [19:44] <xales> l3ki: ah, there you go
#3392 [19:44] <l3ki> xale: ?
#3393 [19:44] <l3ki> xales: ?*
#3394 [19:44] <xales> l3ki: your graphics card is not supported under Windows 7
#3395 [19:44] <l3ki> Oh.
#3396 [19:45] <l3ki> can i get a refund?
#3397 [19:45] <xales> Only if you bought it within the last 7 days
#3398 [19:45] <l3ki> I did
#3399 [19:45] <Alex_> I didn't know minecraft offered refunds
#3400 [19:45] <Alex_> I would've gotton one and then purchased it again
#3401 [19:45] <xales> Alex_: only if it doesn't work for technical reasons, and only if you purchased it with 7 days
#3402 [19:46] <Alex_> Oh
#3403 [19:46] <Alex_> my reason is I chose the wrong name
#3404 [19:46] <Alex_> oh well
#3405 [19:46] <l3ki> .
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#3407 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> +C xales?
#3408 [19:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: No channel-wide CTCP
#3409 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay
#3410 [19:47] <mib_pmjy06> Can someone here help me if the game is not working for me?
#3411 [19:48] <xales> mib_pmjy06: If you are more specific, yes
#3412 [19:48] <xales> How does it not work?
#3413 [19:49] <mib_pmjy06> I can't start up the game because it was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode
#3414 [19:49] <l3ki> so how do i get a refund
#3415 [19:49] <xales> l3ki: Look on minecraft.net
#3416 [19:49] <xales> mib_pmjy06: Please give us this:
#3417 [19:50] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#3418 [19:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3419 [19:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3420 [19:50] <mib_pmjy06> I just had someone here, updating my drivers and everything, and looking into the forums and nothing seems to help
#3421 [19:51] <xales> Do that, please :)
#3422 [19:52] <neviklink> i liike pie
#3423 [19:53] <l3ki> How do i get a refund
#3424 [19:53] <xales> l3ki: As I said. Look on minecraft.net
#3425 [19:53] <l3ki> I did
#3426 [19:54] <neviklink> do you know if it is possible to get my minecraft account changed form neviklink to NevikLink
#3427 [19:54] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/support.jsp
#3428 [19:54] <Valurog> xales I need to unlock more than 25 565 ports in the firewall?
#3429 [19:54] <xales> neviklink: Eventually, maybe, but not at the moment
#3430 [19:54] <neviklink> no you dont
#3431 [19:54] <xales> Valurog: Try disabling the firewall, just to test
#3432 [19:55] <mib_pmjy06> OK, I think I did it right:
#3433 [19:55] <mib_pmjy06> http://pastebin.com/3ZePxq9M
#3434 [19:55] <neviklink> valurog: you onlly need to open port 25565
#3435 [19:55] <neviklink> use the port forwarding site provided on the minecraft wiki
#3436 [19:56] <xales> mib_pmjy06: If you have the latest drivers for it installed, and it still doesn't work, then your video card doesn't support it
#3437 [19:56] <neviklink> and do not do the step to establish a static ip it is not recommended
#3438 [19:56] <xales> you would have to buy a new one, and if it's a laptop, probably a new computer
#3439 [19:58] <neviklink> valurog: go to portforward.com
#3440 [19:58] <Valurog> xales the firewall is disabled and the error is the same
#3441 [19:59] <neviklink> whats the error
#3442 [20:00] <mib_pmjy06> I just don't understand cause it was running fine until I restored my computer, and WoW runs, but I can't get minecraft to run
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#3444 [20:01] <aetherian> heya
#3445 [20:05] <Hector> hm
#3446 [20:05] <Hector> i wonder just what screwed up to make minecraft unbareable with my network interface
#3447 [20:06] <neviklink> ummm a crreper blew it up
#3448 [20:06] <Valurog> neviklink my port is open, 4 other players can not it, it must be something blocking the root
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#3451 [20:09] <Pluckerpluck> Valurog: what error is given?
#3452 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Kittens.
#3453 [20:09] <neviklink> =3
#3454 [20:09] <aetherian> hehehe
#3455 [20:09] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3456 [20:10] <Valurog> Pluckerpluck failed to connect to the server, connection refused: connect
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#3458 [20:13] <Pluckerpluck> connection refused...
#3459 [20:13] <Pluckerpluck> that's a firewall of some sort, either router/port forward or pc firewall
#3460 [20:14] <Pluckerpluck> check the port with the http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
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#3463 [20:19] <aetherian> brb
#3464 [20:20] <xales> rbr
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#3468 [20:31] <nevik> nick nevik
#3469 [20:31] <nevik> how do i change to my resiterd nick
#3470 [20:31] <nevik> nick neviklink
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#3472 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> /nick neviklink
#3473 [20:32] <VoxelHead> Watch out for the moose.
#3474 [20:32] <xales> I'm VoxelHead
#3475 [20:32] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE VoxelHead? feel these nipples!
#3476 [20:32] <xales> LOL
#3477 [20:32] <xales> my plan worked
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#3484 [20:41] <aetherian> aaaand I'm back
#3485 [20:42] <aetherian> :)
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#3487 [20:45] <neviklink> yawn
#3488 [20:45] <aetherian> goto:bed
#3489 [20:46] <neviklink> but what if i have a nightmare
#3490 [20:46] <aetherian> then I get to laugh
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#3492 [20:47] <neviklink> ahhh creepers in ma house
#3493 [20:47] <aetherian> hahaha :D
#3494 [20:49] <neviklink> jk
#3495 [20:49] <aetherian> aww
#3496 [20:49] <neviklink> im notplaying
#3497 [20:49] <aetherian> darn
#3498 [20:49] <neviklink> ahhh michael jackson in ma house
#3499 [20:50] <aetherian> this movie is just one trip after another o.o
#3500 [20:50] * aetherian is watching his brother who is watching alice in wonderland
#3500 [20:51] <neviklink> if at first you dont succed you fail
#3501 [20:52] <aetherian> if at first you don't fricassee, fry fry again
#3502 [20:55] <aetherian> :D
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#3505 [20:59] <Wug> if at first you don't herp, derp
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#3512 [21:03] <mib_vcygtw> What's up with my "bad drivers"? How do I fix that problem, it won't let me play.
#3513 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_vcygtw - It's a video driver problem.
#3514 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Update your drivers
#3515 [21:06] <leaper> Hello, when i log into any server only part of the world loads, and when i walk around i am unable to affect anything in the game. This problem does not happen on single player. How do i fix this?
#3516 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> leaper - The immediate area around the spawn is protected.
#3517 [21:07] <mib_vcygtw> How do I update my drivers??
#3518 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Try further away
#3519 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_vcygtw - Do you know what video card you have?
#3520 [21:07] <leaper> sis 760
#3521 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> leaper - That question wasn't for you
#3522 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> leaper - The immediate area around the spawn is protected. Try further away
#3523 [21:07] <leaper> sorry
#3524 [21:08] <leaper> what?
#3525 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> 20-30 blocks around the immedate area you first spawn in is protected. Non-ops can't place or destroy blocks near spawn. Try walking further away
#3526 [21:10] <leaper> if i do i fall off the map, and my game disconnects.
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#3528 [21:10] <mib_vcygtw> I don't know what video card I have, is there a way to find out?
#3529 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_vcygtw win/dxdiag
#3530 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vcygtw: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3531 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vcygtw: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3532 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Is this your server?
#3533 [21:13] <leaper> no ive tried it on multi. servers
#3534 [21:13] <leaper> the same happens on all of them
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#3536 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you're running any sort of security software? Any firewalls?
#3537 [21:14] <leaper> no, how do i find out?
#3538 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> I.. couldn't tell you. Look at the task bar next to windows, see what programs are running. Check your processes.
#3539 [21:16] <leaper> all i have is Mcafee
#3540 [21:16] <leaper> running
#3541 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> As the antivirus, or the security suite?
#3542 [21:17] <leaper> security suite i think
#3543 [21:17] <ngc0202> why doesn't the Leave Bed button appear for me?
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#3545 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - Are you able to sleep on the bed?
#3546 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Is there any way you can turn off the network firewall on mcafee?
#3547 [21:20] <ngc0202> Of course i can slepe on it
#3548 [21:20] <ngc0202> sleep on it
#3549 [21:20] <leaper> it's off
#3550 [21:20] <ngc0202> how could i leave the bed if i couldn't get in it
#3551 [21:21] <mib_vcygtw> I did what you said, http://pastebin.com/5gZT6Uvg
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#3553 [21:22] <ngc0202> oo
#3554 [21:22] <ngc0202> i would never be able to use that computer
#3555 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_vcygtw - Go here:
#3556 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-260.99-whql-driver.html
#3557 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Download and install that driver
#3558 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> It'll have you restart your computer afterwards. Then try running minecraft again
#3559 [21:23] <ngc0202> so why can't i leave the bed?
#3560 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - I have no idea.. bug?
#3561 [21:23] <ngc0202> :/
#3562 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> You can sleep on the bed, but it won't let you leave?
#3563 [21:24] <ngc0202> Also cool! Windows button + R goes to Run!
#3564 [21:24] <ngc0202> i didn't know that!
#3565 [21:24] <ngc0202> i wish i knew that when i was explaining to my gf how to get to DxDiag
#3566 [21:24] <ngc0202> she never did find it...
#3567 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3568 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Many people don't know the Win key = WIndows key
#3569 [21:25] <ngc0202> lol? That's pretty obvious
#3570 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Been meaning to edit that, and make it clearer
#3571 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately..
#3572 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> leaper - With the firewall off, does it still do it?
#3573 [21:25] * AkiTensai [AkiTensai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3574 [21:25] <leaper> yes
#3575 [21:25] * JonathanS [JonathanS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3576 [21:25] <JonathanS> hey guys
#3577 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you try updating your network card driver?
#3578 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3579 [21:26] <JonathanS> can anyone help me get my loot to one central olocation?
#3580 [21:26] <JonathanS> in my mobgrinder?
#3581 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Did you get it working now?
#3582 [21:26] <JonathanS> yep
#3583 [21:26] <JonathanS> :)
#3584 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#3585 [21:26] <JonathanS> 1,340 items an hour!
#3586 [21:26] <ngc0202> nice
#3587 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Nice.
#3588 [21:27] <ngc0202> Does the button come up for anyone else?
#3589 [21:27] <JonathanS> just need help getting all the loot to flow to one location
#3590 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Usually does
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#3592 [21:31] <mib_vcygtw> Thanks for the help xD
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#3594 [21:33] <gkx> Hey, guys. I'm wondering how to make it so that one can just put a url in the multiplayer ip box and get to my server.
#3595 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> gkx - For beta or classic?
#3596 [21:33] <gkx> Beta
#3597 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> And how much money do you want to spend?
#3598 [21:34] <gkx> As little as possible
#3599 [21:34] <gkx> But I understand I'll have to reserve a url
#3600 [21:34] <gkx> I already have the server running on my current external ip
#3601 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it depends. You can buy a domain name for a few bucks, and point the cname record to your IP
#3602 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> It entirely depends on the hosting package/solution
#3603 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Or you can go with the free option, with dyndns.org
#3604 [21:35] <gkx> That sounds good lol
#3605 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> But that leaves you with, youraccount.dyndns.org
#3606 [21:35] <gkx> That doesn't sound bad at all, however.
#3607 [21:35] <neviklink> has anyone here gotten notch to join their server?
#3608 [21:35] <gkx> Much better than a string of numbers.
#3609 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Then take a look at dyndns.org
#3610 [21:35] <gkx> Awesome, you rock
#3611 [21:36] <uber5001> Hey there. Why is my beta server giving me this error/how do i fix it? java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#3612 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> neviklink - Nope.
#3613 [21:36] <Wug> I have a dyndns account from before the only free options were dyndns.org
#3614 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Right Wug.
#3615 [21:36] * GreyVulpine also uses dyndns.org
#3615 [21:37] * Wug feels sorry for people who no longer get to choose
#3615 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> uber5001 - Could you give us the pastebin.com of the full error?
#3616 [21:37] <Wug> its probably just an obfuscated stack trace
#3617 [21:37] <Wug> I bet its a firewall or port forwarding problem
#3618 [21:37] <uber5001> just a minute..
#3619 [21:38] <uber5001> http://pastebin.com/1MR2VyRs
#3620 [21:39] <uber5001> That's when i use my external IP on the same PC as the server.
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#3622 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#3623 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Thinking maybe NIC, firewall or maybe..
#3624 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Same computer, so it wouldn't be the router.
#3625 [21:42] * mib_9qd59m [mib_9qd59m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3626 [21:42] <mib_9qd59m> hello
#3627 [21:42] <uber5001> I've tested the ports... and 25565 is fine.
#3628 [21:42] <Thoatt> What happens when you connect to localhost?
#3629 [21:42] <uber5001> It works.
#3630 [21:42] <Thoatt> internal ip?
#3631 [21:43] <uber5001> With an adress of 127.0.0.1 or something?
#3632 [21:43] <Thoatt> yes
#3633 [21:43] <Thoatt> what about internal p though
#3634 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> [INFO] /192.168.42.125:2117 lost connection
#3635 [21:43] <Thoatt> ip*
#3636 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3637 [21:43] <Thoatt> oh... herp
#3638 [21:43] <uber5001> lol
#3639 [21:43] * Thoatt doesn't read previous messages
#3639 [21:43] <GLaDOS> DopeGhoti y u no ban mib_ person
#3640 [21:43] <Thoatt> waaay too many to go through lol
#3641 [21:43] <GLaDOS> wait, derp
#3642 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> GLaDOS - We're supposed to be open here.
#3643 [21:43] <Wug> if you're using your external ip, it will go outside of your network and be routed back
#3644 [21:43] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead y u no ban mib_ person
#3645 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to do it with #minecraft
#3646 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Makes it easy for people to come here for help.
#3647 [21:44] <Wug> do you still have the problem if you connect with localhost or 127.0.0.1, or your lan ip? (192.168.?.?)
#3648 [21:44] <Thoatt> Wug: no lol
#3649 [21:44] <uber5001> Wug, no.
#3650 [21:45] <GLaDOS> GreyVulpine: even if it means dealing with "ZOMG HALP MAI GAEM R DERP!!1!!11!1one!11!"
#3651 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for.
#3652 [21:45] <Wug> you're sure your internal ip address is 192.168.45.125? they're usually like 192.168.1.1
#3653 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> He's got some sort of neat subnetting going on
#3654 [21:46] <Wug> are you on a large lan?
#3655 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.x.y is private
#3656 [21:46] <Thoatt> uber5001: Do you have teamviewer?
#3657 [21:46] <uber5001> Yes.
#3658 [21:46] <Thoatt> pm me with id/pass and I can help xD
#3659 [21:46] <Wug> the more routers between you and the internet, the less likely all ports are forwarded properlu
#3660 [21:47] * Wug came into this too late
#3660 [21:47] * Wug also hates routers for the crap they put him through
#3660 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Try helping people through doubly or triply-natted network topologies
#3661 [21:48] * GreyVulpine cuts wrists.
#3661 [21:49] <Wug> that seems kind of like what uber5001 has
#3662 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Possibly.
#3663 [21:49] <Wug> either that or he's on an enterprise lan and shouldn't be hosting servers anyway
#3664 [21:50] * Wug pokes xales
#3664 [21:50] <xales> wat
#3665 [21:50] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3666 [21:50] <Wug> do you have any experience with server troubleshooting
#3667 [21:51] <aetherian> hell yay :D
#3668 [21:51] <aetherian> finally got wireless working
#3669 [21:51] <Wug> we have an oh-so-generic 'lost connection' issue
#3670 [21:52] <Thoatt> Wug: he's not... just a pimped home network.
#3671 [21:53] <Wug> what's the ip / is the server running? whois says 98.227.203.166
#3672 [21:53] <aetherian> what's going on now?
#3673 [21:54] <Wug> network troubleshooting
#3674 [21:54] <Wug> what fun.
#3675 [21:54] <Thoatt> Wug: it's that. lol
#3676 [21:54] <Wug> I can't connect, I just time out
#3677 [21:54] <Thoatt> same.
#3678 [21:54] <aetherian> sounds fun, I'll leave you guys to it
#3679 [21:54] <Thoatt> I think aybe his internet disconnected or something.
#3680 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, mcafee, right?
#3681 [21:55] <Wug> he's still in the chat...
#3682 [21:55] <Thoatt> because my tv stopped and he's not responding here lol
#3683 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, neat
#3684 [21:55] <Wug> uber5001 wake up
#3685 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Then probably NIC?
#3686 [21:55] <Thoatt> idk, perhaps
#3687 [21:55] <Wug> driver update time...
#3688 [21:55] <Thoatt> he has forwarding done correctly
#3689 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> There he goes
#3690 [21:56] <Uristthegreat> Can someone give me a server link?
#3691 [21:56] <Wug> to whay
#3692 [21:56] <Thoatt> to what?
#3693 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3694 [21:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3695 [21:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3696 [21:56] <Wug> good voxelhead
#3697 [21:56] * Wug scratches vox's tummy
#3697 [21:57] <Thoatt> brb
#3698 [21:57] <aetherian> yay #smp :D
#3699 [21:57] * Deathconsuming [Deathconsuming@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3700 [21:58] <Deathconsuming> Hey I need some help D:
#3701 [21:58] <Wug> with what
#3702 [21:58] <aetherian> ask the question
#3703 [21:58] <aetherian> don't ask to ask
#3704 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Death wasn't asking.. Death was stating..
#3705 [21:58] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3705 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Either way, just tell us what your problem is
#3706 [21:59] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: point?
#3707 [21:59] <aetherian> :(
#3708 [21:59] <Wug> he's typing a novel, let him finish
#3709 [21:59] <aetherian> oh okay
#3710 [21:59] <Deathconsuming> Okay so I am trying to make my server work without hamachi and every way I have tried doesn't work, I have the servers port forwarded but I have no idea how to make it work so that I do not need the hamachi IP address
#3711 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Easiest way, got Teamviewer?
#3712 [21:59] <Deathconsuming> Yeah
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#3714 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> One of us can take you through it
#3715 [21:59] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3716 [21:59] <Deathconsuming> Sure, prefer someone who has alot of patience xD
#3717 [22:00] <Deathconsuming> Or you grey :D
#3718 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm available, sure.
#3719 [22:00] <Wug> So am I
#3720 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Unless you want it Wug.
#3721 [22:00] <Wug> haven't done anything fun today
#3722 [22:00] <aetherian> uh oh
#3723 [22:00] <oldtopman> Want what?
#3724 [22:00] <Wug> so sure I'll go
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#3726 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Alright, Deathconsuming, give Wug your Teamviewer info, he'll take care of you
#3727 [22:01] <Deathconsuming> :D
#3728 [22:02] <Deathconsuming> Should probably update it xD
#3729 [22:02] <aetherian> version 0.01
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#3731 [22:02] <Thoatt> damn... I miss all the good noobs >.>
#3732 [22:02] <Deathconsuming> I always have the latest version LO
#3733 [22:03] <aetherian> Thoatt: ???
#3734 [22:03] <neviklink> anyone want to jhoin my servetr
#3735 [22:03] <Thoatt> people that have tv LOL
#3736 [22:03] <aetherian> I don't have television...
#3737 [22:03] <aetherian> hehehe
#3738 [22:03] <Thoatt> explain for 40 minutes, or take 5 and fix it yourself lol
#3739 [22:04] <aetherian> hum, my DNS is always failing
#3740 [22:04] <neviklink> want ot jin my server?
#3741 [22:04] <Thoatt> not really neviklink I have too many servers to connect to as it is lol
#3742 [22:04] <aetherian> I have zero D:
#3743 [22:05] <Thoatt> but I can come check it out if you want
#3744 [22:05] * aetherian is a crazed sociopath
#3744 [22:05] <Uristthegreat> I can't connect to any multiplayer servers and we just got a new router.
#3745 [22:05] <Thoatt> neviklink: address?
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#3747 [22:06] <aetherian> I wish we had a different router... this one's all officially supported, so you can't do anything with it
#3748 [22:06] <Deathconsuming> Thats only because my last attempt failed and i didnt change it back
#3749 [22:06] <aetherian> the other one we could name KLINGON :D
#3750 [22:06] <Deathconsuming> oops mt
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#3752 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> um
#3753 [22:07] * necavi [necavi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3754 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Uristthegreat - Try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3755 [22:08] <Deathconsuming> Grey your going to have to help me xD
#3756 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3757 [22:08] <Deathconsuming> wug: its a bukkit problem
#3758 [22:08] <Deathconsuming> wug:i dont have bukkit experience
#3759 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy, I'm not that much better with bukkit.
#3760 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> What's the issue
#3761 [22:09] <Thoatt> lol
#3762 [22:09] <Deathconsuming> Actually wug the server properties is the one bukkit runs off of, I just need to make it so the ip isn't my hamachi one
#3763 [22:09] <Thoatt> in your server.properties, make sure the 'ip=' line is equal to your outside ip address.
#3764 [22:09] * Liraxus [Liraxus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3765 [22:10] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3765 [22:10] <Thoatt> not our hamachi one.
#3766 [22:10] * uber5001 [uber5001@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3767 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Just leave it blank
#3768 [22:10] <Thoatt> or that...
#3769 [22:10] <Thoatt> whichever.
#3770 [22:10] <Liraxus> hey
#3771 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3772 [22:10] <Deathconsuming> But how do I get my friends to connect? >_>
#3773 [22:10] * buddyochoa2 [buddyochoa2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3774 [22:10] <Liraxus> i was the guy that came in here earlier for texture pack troubles
#3775 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Use the external IP
#3776 [22:10] <Liraxus> And i forgot if paint.net had transparency
#3777 [22:10] <Thoatt> have you forwarded the ports in your router?
#3778 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> If you port forward correctly... it should work
#3779 [22:10] <Thoatt> Liraxus: yes.
#3780 [22:11] <Liraxus> thanks Thoatt
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#3782 [22:11] <Thoatt> np
#3783 [22:11] <Thoatt> uber5001: we remember >.>
#3784 [22:11] <uber5001> Egh, Thoatt, what happened?
#3785 [22:11] <Thoatt> lol
#3786 [22:11] <Liraxus> if i can't seem to find out how, i will probably ask you if yuo could help with transparency
#3787 [22:11] <Thoatt> idk... you dc'd from everything o.O
#3788 [22:11] <uber5001> Ok... that was another symptom... but totally random, cant figure out when..
#3789 [22:11] <uber5001> maybe when you connected to me?
#3790 [22:11] <uber5001> I'm on another PC atm.
#3791 [22:12] <Thoatt> http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/19145-convert-image-to-transparent-background/
#3792 [22:12] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3793 [22:12] <Liraxus> Well, my texture pack is just gonna be a simplified minecraft
#3794 [22:12] <Thoatt> If it was becuase of the tv connection, it probably would have disconnected sooner than when it did.
#3795 [22:12] <Liraxus> themed after GG2
#3796 [22:12] <Liraxus> the awesome part is it will help slow computers!
#3797 [22:12] <Thoatt> doubt.
#3798 [22:12] * Thoatt doubts very greatly...
#3798 [22:13] <Liraxus> actually
#3799 [22:13] <uber5001> I've had that problem, and i have to restart to get back internet...
#3800 [22:13] <Liraxus> When i triedo ut a lower pixel texture pack, it actually ran better than usual
#3801 [22:13] <Thoatt> uber5001: try updating your ethernet drivers >.>
#3802 [22:14] <uber5001> did.
#3803 [22:14] <Thoatt> Liraxus: It won't help slower computers, but it might help people with really really shitty videocards.
#3804 [22:14] <neviklink> thoatt try it agin
#3805 [22:14] <uber5001> (at least i think i did that right)
#3806 [22:14] <Thoatt> neviklink: same
#3807 [22:15] <Liraxus> a.k.a. me.
#3808 [22:15] <Liraxus> My computer was made in 2005,
#3809 [22:16] <Liraxus> Its not a very good video card,
#3810 [22:16] <neviklink> ok now try
#3811 [22:16] <neviklink> k got it it should work
#3812 [22:16] <Panpz> Hello
#3813 [22:17] <Thoatt> neviklink: same.
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#3815 [22:17] <Wug> well
#3816 [22:17] <neviklink> did you try like 2 secs ago
#3817 [22:17] <Wug> the server was unable to bind to the port
#3818 [22:17] <Wug> for some unknown reason
#3819 [22:17] <Thoatt> now and a second ago
#3820 [22:17] <Wug> that usually happens if it's crashes
#3821 [22:17] <Wug> d*
#3822 [22:17] <Thoatt> brb now, helping uber5001
#3823 [22:18] <Wug> he's restarting to clear his network config
#3824 [22:18] <Wug> god I hate bukkit
#3825 [22:18] <Panpz> rules
#3826 [22:18] <Wug> what about them
#3827 [22:18] <neviklink> r u sure you typed ip right
#3828 [22:19] <Wug> yeah, I checked
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#3830 [22:19] <Panpz> what the problem with your server Wug
#3831 [22:19] <Wug> it was failing to bind to the port even with the hamachi ip
#3832 [22:19] <Wug> or no ip at all
#3833 [22:19] <Wug> it's not my server, its someone i'm helping
#3834 [22:19] <Wug> mine works fine :)
#3835 [22:19] <Wug> doesn't team viewer have some sort of text chart
#3836 [22:20] <Wug> chat*
#3837 [22:20] <Deathconsuming> Port bind error still
#3838 [22:20] <Wug> uhh
#3839 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Just hit up notepad
#3840 [22:20] <Wug> try running as admin?
#3841 [22:20] <Wug> has it always done that
#3842 [22:20] <Deathconsuming> Still bind error
#3843 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Wug, could I sit in? See what's going on?
#3844 [22:20] <Wug> by all means grey, take a shot at it
#3845 [22:20] <neviklink> thoatt
#3846 [22:20] <Deathconsuming> Same info wug
#3847 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Could I please get the info?
#3848 [22:21] <Thoatt> !check 98.227.203.166
#3849 [22:21] <Deathconsuming> es you can
#3850 [22:21] <Thoatt> hmm...
#3851 [22:21] <uber5001> dc'd again?
#3852 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> you're still here uber5001.
#3853 [22:21] <Thoatt> yep
#3854 [22:21] <uber5001> Yes.
#3855 [22:21] <Thoatt> connecting to mc kills your nic gg
#3856 [22:22] <uber5001> eh?
#3857 [22:22] <Thoatt> when I tried to connect to your mc server, it killed your server's internet correct?
#3858 [22:22] <JonathanS> can anyone help me get all my loot to flow to one central are?
#3859 [22:22] <JonathanS> for my mob grinder
#3860 [22:22] <Thoatt> JonathanS: water.
#3861 [22:22] <JonathanS> i know
#3862 [22:22] <JonathanS> but its more complicated
#3863 [22:22] <uber5001> My server looks fine, but i dont think i have internet.... 1 sec
#3864 [22:23] <Thoatt> single player? or multi player?
#3865 [22:23] <aetherian> lovely, got tv to work
#3866 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Wug, you joining?
#3867 [22:23] <Thoatt> (@ JonathanS )
#3868 [22:23] <Deathconsuming> Thats the error i get grey >_<
#3869 [22:23] <Thoatt> JonathanS: is it single player ormultiplayer?
#3870 [22:24] <JonathanS> multi
#3871 [22:24] <uber5001> Thoatt, yes my internet dies. So am I screwed?
#3872 [22:24] <Thoatt> I can join and see if I can help if you want :)
#3873 [22:24] <Thoatt> uber5001: It's an issue with minecraft and nic drivers...
#3874 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Death, could you remove the ip
#3875 [22:24] <Thoatt> there's not /much/ you can do
#3876 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Save it, and relaunch
#3877 [22:25] <Deathconsuming> ok
#3878 [22:25] <JonathanS> ok
#3879 [22:25] <uber5001> nic drivers?
#3880 [22:25] <Thoatt> mitpatterson 'solved' that issue by running a vm with linux in it :P
#3881 [22:25] <Thoatt> Network Interface Card
#3882 [22:25] <Thoatt> JonathanS: pm me the address :)
#3883 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright, could I take control of your computer Deathconsuming, make sure you did port forwarding correctly?
#3884 [22:26] <Deathconsuming> Yes you can
#3885 [22:26] <Vector> Thoatt?
#3886 [22:26] <Vector> are you saying
#3887 [22:26] <JonathanS> did you get it?
#3888 [22:26] <Wug> soz was afk
#3889 [22:26] <Thoatt> yes Vector?
#3890 [22:26] <Vector> if we run an emulated vm virtualizing the nic, minecraft would work?
#3891 [22:26] <Wug> if you change the port to something else, does it work?
#3892 [22:26] <Thoatt> yes...
#3893 [22:26] <Panpz> I need help, it look like my Mc account got some lag
#3894 [22:26] <Thoatt> if you have that issue
#3895 [22:26] <Vector> o.0
#3896 [22:26] <Vector> o.0
#3897 [22:26] <Vector> interesting
#3898 [22:26] <uber5001> 0.o
#3899 [22:26] <JonathanS> thoatt you got it?
#3900 [22:26] <Thoatt> JonathanS: can't connect...
#3901 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> I think I need to reconnect
#3902 [22:27] <Deathconsuming> Trying to figure out how to grant control xD
#3903 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> I'll be right back Deathconsuming
#3904 [22:27] <JonathanS> try agian
#3905 [22:27] <uber5001> Thanks, Thoatt. At least I know what the problem probably is now.
#3906 [22:27] <JonathanS> it 1.3 though
#3907 [22:27] <Thoatt> uber5001: sorry it's such a crappy perdicament :/
#3908 [22:27] <Deathconsuming> sec lemme google
#3909 [22:27] <Thoatt> It's a known issue though
#3910 [22:28] <Thoatt> JonathanS: is it the default port?
#3911 [22:28] <uber5001> I felt pretty dumb waiting for 5 minutes tho.
#3912 [22:28] <JonathanS> yep
#3913 [22:28] <Thoatt> Outdated server lol
#3914 [22:28] <Thoatt> update it :P
#3915 [22:29] <Thoatt> I assume it's 1.3 lol
#3916 [22:29] <JonathanS> oh lol
#3917 [22:29] <JonathanS> yep
#3918 [22:29] <Thoatt> :P
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#3920 [22:29] <JonathanS> srry
#3921 [22:29] <Vector> ya 1.3
#3922 [22:29] <Vector> 1.4 has same issue
#3923 [22:29] <Thoatt> lol don't worry about it... :P
#3924 [22:29] <Vector> Notch has to get on it
#3925 [22:29] <Panpz> Please can i have some help :S
#3926 [22:30] <Thoatt> ??> Panpz ask
#3927 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Panpz: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3928 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Panpz: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3929 [22:30] <nevik> i wish i could access my router myself but my dad passworded and usernamed it and idk what it is
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#3931 [22:30] <Panpz> Ok
#3932 [22:30] <Thoatt> nevik: hardware reset it :P
#3933 [22:30] <nevik> dude no
#3934 [22:30] <Thoatt> lool
#3935 [22:30] <uber5001> lol
#3936 [22:30] <Panpz> Its my complete problem : (srry english)
#3937 [22:31] <Thoatt> What is your native language?
#3938 [22:31] <Thoatt> We do have people here that are multi-lingual :D
#3939 [22:32] <Coll> nevik just find the router hold the reset button for 10-30 seconds
#3940 [22:32] <Coll> boom
#3941 [22:32] <Coll> unlocked
#3942 [22:32] <Panpz> So i play Mc since 1.3 i update 1.4 since 4 days i get some lag i try my account on other pc and its lagging too. i try on my server vanilla and its still lagging
#3943 [22:32] <Vector> Estoy aqui para traducir a las personas que entienden espanol
#3944 [22:32] <nevik> i think my dad would kill me
#3945 [22:32] <Vector> :P
#3946 [22:32] <Panpz> french ^^
#3947 [22:32] <Vector> gah
#3948 [22:32] <Panpz> lol
#3949 [22:32] <Vector> Panps, known issue
#3950 [22:33] <Vector> i have that same problem
#3951 [22:33] <Vector> and only until today did i know it was known :\
#3952 [22:33] <Thoatt> wow... somehow expected waaay worse English when you said 'srry english' :P
#3953 [22:33] <Vector> LOL
#3954 [22:33] <Vector> his english is good
#3955 [22:33] <Panpz> seriously ?
#3956 [22:33] <Thoatt> Yeah it's not bad lol
#3957 [22:33] <Vector> yeah
#3958 [22:33] <Panpz> thaks
#3959 [22:34] <Panpz> thanks*
#3960 [22:34] <Vector> no problem
#3961 [22:34] <Panpz> So i will be crazy
#3962 [22:34] <Thoatt> meilleur que mon francias!
#3963 [22:34] <Thoatt> :P
#3964 [22:34] <Vector> dude
#3965 [22:34] <Panpz> I try everythibg possible
#3966 [22:34] <Vector> it seems most people that say "sorry bad english" end up having better english than what they think they have
#3967 [22:34] <Panpz> Non le tiens est bon :D
#3968 [22:35] <Thoatt> ne me flattez >.>
#3969 [22:35] <Thoatt> lol
#3970 [22:35] <Thoatt> xD
#3971 [22:35] <Panpz> pas
#3972 [22:35] <Thoatt> ANYWHO
#3973 [22:35] <Panpz> You forgot 'pas' ^^
#3974 [22:35] <Thoatt> like I said...
#3975 [22:35] <Thoatt> my french is crap lol
#3976 [22:36] <Panpz> lol
#3977 [22:36] <Panpz> some people dont know france at all xD
#3978 [22:36] <Panpz> Its so small
#3979 [22:36] * Thoatt was forced to take it in highschool
#3979 [22:37] <Thoatt> along with spanish and DAS BESTE SPRACHE DER WELT! MUAHAH
#3980 [22:37] * Panpz love forcing people with his culture
#3980 [22:37] <nevik> frances flagg should be plain white
#3981 [22:37] <Thoatt> lol nevik
#3982 [22:37] <Vector> lol
#3983 [22:37] <Panpz> why ?
#3984 [22:37] <Panpz> I dont understand the joke :S
#3985 [22:38] <Thoatt> Panpz: He's making fun of France. a White flag means surrender.
#3986 [22:38] <nevik> *faceplams*
#3987 [22:38] <Panpz> ok lol
#3988 [22:38] <Panpz> but why must we surrender
#3989 [22:38] <Panpz> like politic or just for fun
#3990 [22:38] <Panpz> easy joke
#3991 [22:38] <Panpz> ?
#3992 [22:39] <Thoatt> He's poking fun at how France surrenders when there is war, etc.
#3993 [22:39] <Panpz> Ok ^^
#3994 [22:39] <Panpz> thats funny
#3995 [22:39] <Panpz> :D
#3996 [22:39] <Thoatt> FIRE ZE MISSILES! But I am le tired :/
#3997 [22:39] <Thoatt> fine.. take a nap, THEN FIRE ZE$ MISSLES
#3998 [22:40] <Panpz> We are to small to make war :D
#3999 [22:40] <Panpz> And too tired
#4000 [22:40] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMwKPmsbWE
#4001 [22:42] <Panpz> LOL
#4002 [22:42] <Panpz> funny
#4003 [22:42] <ionface> so old
#4004 [22:43] <Thoatt> psh... doesn't make it any less funny :P
#4005 [22:43] <Panpz> Its hard to understand
#4006 [22:43] <ionface> WTF m8
#4007 [22:43] <Thoatt> Alaska can come too.
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#4009 [22:44] <Panpz> so PLZ HELP ME :S
#4010 [22:44] <Panpz> I want to play MC :S
#4011 [22:44] <Thoatt> Panpz: It's a known issue, there isn't much to do.
#4012 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> What's going on?
#4013 [22:44] <Thoatt> GreyVulpine: lag on 1.4
#4014 [22:44] <Thoatt> but not on 1.3
#4015 [22:44] <Thoatt> multiple computers
#4016 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> What kind of lag?
#4017 [22:44] <Panpz> Its look like ID lag
#4018 [22:45] <Thoatt> internet lag?
#4019 [22:45] <Panpz> Its the only solution i find
#4020 [22:45] <Thoatt> or computer lag?
#4021 [22:45] <Panpz> Internet
#4022 [22:45] <Panpz> But multi comp
#4023 [22:45] <Panpz> Like you said
#4024 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Internet lag, when connecting to other servers?
#4025 [22:47] <Panpz> for example i try to play with a friend computer. When my friend is playing, he dont get any lag. But when i'm playing, on the same computer on the same installation, i know crazy lags
#4026 [22:48] <Panpz> sometimes it disconnect
#4027 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> On, single player?
#4028 [22:48] <Panpz> Its so strange
#4029 [22:48] <Panpz> no multi
#4030 [22:48] <Panpz> Single np
#4031 [22:49] <Panpz> Sooner
#4032 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning down the graphics settings? Turning up fog, turn detail from fancy to fast, turn off smooth lighting?
#4033 [22:49] <Panpz> (.... the right word....)
#4034 [22:49] <Panpz> Yeah
#4035 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> You've tried all of those?
#4036 [22:49] <Panpz> its a lag problem not grafical
#4037 [22:50] <Panpz> I try everything
#4038 [22:50] <Panpz> And i have good knowlege about scripting and network
#4039 [22:50] <Panpz> coding
#4040 [22:50] <Panpz> and protocol
#4041 [22:50] <Panpz> and i know own to find solutions on internet
#4042 [22:51] <Panpz> I test everything is possible
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#4044 [22:51] <Panpz> So if its a know issue what should i do ?
#4045 [22:51] <lordphantom> how do i turn on framerate limit for my server?
#4046 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> There's really nothing you can do
#4047 [22:51] <Panpz> Ok
#4048 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> lordphantom - framerate limiter is client-side only
#4049 [22:52] <lordphantom> ok, where do u edit it
#4050 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> esc - >options -> video settings
#4051 [22:52] <Panpz> Options videos set
#4052 [22:52] <lordphantom> thanks
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#4054 [22:52] <Panpz> I must wait an update or what
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#4057 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes Panpz
#4058 [22:55] <Panpz> I cant play minecraft in the future and everybody get cancer because of fukushima what a nice week begin
#4059 [22:55] <Panpz> ^^
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#4061 [22:56] <Panpz> So thanks to help me guys
#4062 [22:57] <Panpz> Bye
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#4068 [23:05] <aetherian> LoRDTrevor2: stop the torrents
#4069 [23:05] <codyholla120> hey uhh
#4070 [23:05] <aetherian> heya, cody
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#4073 [23:05] <LoRDTrevor2> huh?
#4074 [23:05] <codyholla120> i got on the game and i can login btw i got free version
#4075 [23:06] <aetherian> LoRDTrevor2: fix your internet
#4076 [23:06] <aetherian> codyholla120: and?
#4077 [23:06] <LoRDTrevor2> aetherian: I cant find my ghost.
#4078 [23:06] <codyholla120> i cant login!
#4079 [23:06] <aetherian> you say you got the free version
#4080 [23:06] <aetherian> where did you get it
#4081 [23:06] <codyholla120> minecraft.net
#4082 [23:07] <Phenex> Anyone around who can give me some info about removing 1 of 2 video cards in my computer?
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#4084 [23:07] <aetherian> so you're playing it in the browser?
#4085 [23:07] <codyholla120> no
#4086 [23:07] <xales> codyholla120: There is no free version except Classic, at http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#4087 [23:07] <codyholla120> i downloaded it
#4088 [23:07] <aetherian> codyholla120: then it's not free, you need to pay
#4089 [23:07] <LoRDTrevor2> He download the paid version
#4090 [23:07] <codyholla120> yes i have classic
#4091 [23:07] <xales> codyholla120: The version you download is not free
#4092 [23:07] <xales> you need a paid account to login
#4093 [23:08] <aetherian> darnit, kealper :|
#4094 [23:08] <Kealper> rawr
#4095 [23:08] <Phenex> Xales: Could I borrow a moment of you're time, if you aren't busy?
#4096 [23:08] <Phenex> your*
#4097 [23:08] <xales> sure
#4098 [23:08] <codyholla120> bye
#4099 [23:08] <Phenex> Would you prefer pm? It's a quick video card question
#4100 [23:08] <aetherian> I can't do draw.exe anymore .-.
#4101 [23:08] <xales> just ask here
#4102 [23:08] * aetherian plays a better game
#4102 [23:08] <Phenex> Baught a used computer
#4103 [23:08] <Phenex> and it has 2 video cards init
#4104 [23:08] <Phenex> Is there anything I need to know before removing 1?
#4105 [23:09] <Phenex> the 1 video card and heat sink are blocking an open PCI slot
#4106 [23:09] <Kealper> aetherian: i've been changing lots of stuff on it lol
#4107 [23:09] <Phenex> which I need for internet
#4108 [23:09] <aetherian> I can load it
#4109 [23:09] <aetherian> but after I click out of it, I can't get back in
#4110 [23:09] <Kealper> O.o
#4111 [23:09] <aetherian> but I gotta go :D
#4112 [23:09] <Kealper> wine fail
#4113 [23:09] <Kealper> lol
#4114 [23:09] <aetherian> Kealper: it stops responding
#4115 [23:09] <xales> Phenex: no, just remove it
#4116 [23:09] <Kealper> aetherian: meh
#4117 [23:10] <aetherian> meh feh geh leh seh
#4118 [23:10] <Phenex> Does it matter which one?
#4119 [23:10] <Phenex> They are identical
#4120 [23:10] <aetherian> no
#4121 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the mobo
#4122 [23:10] <aetherian> but turn off your computer before removing ;)
#4123 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> One slot may be full speed, one may be half
#4124 [23:10] <Phenex> I have the dxdiag of it if that helps?
#4125 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't help
#4126 [23:11] <Phenex> aetherian: no kidding! :/
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#4128 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> If you've got 2 PCI-e slots, if one card is put in the x16 slot, it'll run at x16
#4129 [23:11] <Phenex> Ohh ok
#4130 [23:11] <Fausterion> hi
#4131 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> If you put 2 video cards in both PCI-e slots, they'll run at 8x
#4132 [23:11] <Phenex> I have 3 PCI-E
#4133 [23:11] <Phenex> 1 @ 2.0 x 16
#4134 [23:11] <Fausterion> so, has anyone had any troubles finding wolves in smp?
#4135 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> if you remove a video card, make sure it's from the 8x slot
#4136 [23:11] <Fausterion> my smp server isn't spawning wolves :(
#4137 [23:11] <Phenex> and pci-e x 16
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#4139 [23:12] <Phenex> There are two other things with the video cards that are connected with a wire?
#4140 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> There'll usually be only one x16 slot.
#4141 [23:12] <Phenex> What could thsoe be?
#4142 [23:12] <Phenex> heat sinks?
#4143 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that's the SLI or crossfire thing
#4144 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> SLI for nvidia, or crossfire for ATI cards
#4145 [23:12] <Phenex> Just disconnect the two and remove 1 card and 1 SLI or whatever
#4146 [23:12] * aetherian doesn't have to go quite yet
#4146 [23:12] <Phenex> its nvidiia
#4147 [23:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#4147 [23:12] <LoRDTrevor2> Why is ghost not working? Nickserv says that its been ghosted but it still says that that name is in use.
#4148 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> LoRDTrevor2 - /msg nickserv ghost nick password?
#4149 [23:13] <LoRDTrevor2> im stuck as an imposter of myself
#4150 [23:13] <LoRDTrevor2> yep
#4151 [23:13] <aetherian> imposter!
#4152 [23:13] <aetherian> purge!
#4153 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Um.. try #help
#4154 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what's going on with that
#4155 [23:13] <Phenex> hopefully I can get the card in and working!
#4156 [23:13] <LoRDTrevor2> -NickServ- LoRDTrevor has been ghosted.
#4157 [23:13] <LoRDTrevor2> keeps saying that
#4158 [23:14] <LoRDTrevor2> every time
#4159 [23:14] <aetherian> check that there isn't a client running somewhere, perhaps hidden? dunno.
#4160 [23:14] <LoRDTrevor2> ill kill this one
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#4162 [23:15] <LoRDTrevor> this also explains why my battery keeps dying
#4163 [23:15] <LoRDTrevor> im gonna go get a diffrent client
#4164 [23:15] <LoRDTrevor> ty
#4165 [23:15] <Kealper> .-.
#4166 [23:19] <aetherian> I wonder what client it was...
#4167 [23:19] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/2HhcR.jpg <-- it's mah ewok
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#4169 [23:22] <DanteMaxwell> Hey there
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#4171 [23:23] <DanteMaxwell> I'm having a bit of an issue with the standalone Minecraft client
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#4176 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> I sense a netsplit coming
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#4179 [23:23] <DanteMaxwell> lol, guess I should type my troubles fast then, xD
#4180 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Just wait
#4181 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> This won't take long
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#4184 [23:24] <DanteMaxwell> Short version, here's a link to the thread I made.
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#4186 [23:24] <DanteMaxwell> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=262499
#4187 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Will take a look
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#4190 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - What exactly is the error you get. Can you pastebin.com it?
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#4193 [23:26] <DanteMaxwell> not sure how to go about that
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#4197 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> When you launch the server, do you get the console?
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#4200 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you get the error there?
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#4203 [23:26] <DanteMaxwell> I get the JVM error when I use the exe, as well as the cmd prompt from a .bat file
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#4205 [23:27] <Thoatt> lawd. so many people joining.. lol
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#4207 [23:27] <DanteMaxwell> I don't even reach the login screen
#4208 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you copy that error, go to pastebin.com
#4209 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Paste
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#4211 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> There it goes
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#4213 [23:27] <Thoatt> oh.. herpderpo
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#4215 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Good ol' netsplit
#4216 [23:27] <Thoatt> derp*
#4217 [23:27] <World> what horrible timing
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#4228 [23:29] <DanteMaxwell> so you wanted me to paste the error message from the screen into this site?
#4229 [23:29] <DanteMaxwell> http://pastebin.com/2n2TKPCm
#4230 [23:29] <DanteMaxwell> there's the link to the paste
#4231 [23:29] <Wug> <World> I don't know why it wasn't working with a static ip configuration
#4232 [23:29] <Wug> <World> if you ever have to re-forward ports,
#4233 [23:29] <Wug> <World> use the 'ipcongfig' command to find your local ip address (it will be 192.168.1.X)
#4234 [23:29] <Wug> <World> login to the router, click port forwarding in the bar on the left
#4235 [23:30] <Wug> aubot, don't be a dick beacuse I'm sending a memo
#4236 [23:30] <ParanoiaComplex> heh
#4237 [23:30] <ParanoiaComplex> strange
#4238 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. why are you launching minecraft.exe?
#4239 [23:30] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#4240 [23:30] <Wug> ?
#4241 [23:31] <DanteMaxwell> attempting to launch the exe failed
#4242 [23:31] <DanteMaxwell> same with the jar file
#4243 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> You're trying to run the client?
#4244 [23:31] <DanteMaxwell> correct
#4245 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - How much free RAM do you have?
#4246 [23:31] <Wug> ^
#4247 [23:31] <Wug> that's your problem
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#4253 [23:32] <DanteMaxwell> Commit Charge K = 1670000, give or take a few thousand
#4254 [23:33] <DanteMaxwell> in Physical Memory K, it's holding at around 1385000
#4255 [23:33] <aetherian> s'long f'r n'w
#4256 [23:33] * Kealper waves
#4256 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4257 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> How about: java.exe -Xms512M -jar "C:\Documents and Settings
#4258 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> \Phillip\Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
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#4260 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> er
#4261 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> java.exe -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar "C:\Documents and Settings\Phillip\Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
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#4263 [23:34] <mib_efzp54> How do I stop my beta server if I am running it with nogui and with no command prompt window open? (the server is working, and (i think) I am an admin)
#4264 [23:34] <DanteMaxwell> Same error
#4265 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_efzp54 - Just do "stop"
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#4267 [23:35] <Wug> you can do /stop as an admin ingame
#4268 [23:35] <Wug> if that doesnt work, try 'java.exe -Xmx128M -jar "C:\Documents and Settings\Phillip\Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
#4269 [23:35] <Uber5001> That means... I'm not an admin.
#4270 [23:35] <Wug> ^(this was directed at dante)
#4271 [23:36] <DanteMaxwell> hrm
#4272 [23:36] <Uber5001> How do I make myself an admin?
#4273 [23:36] <DanteMaxwell> the error changed
#4274 [23:36] <DanteMaxwell> instead of it appearing in text in the cmd prompt
#4275 [23:36] <Wug> uber, if the server is running and you are logged in, you can do '/stop' to stop it
#4276 [23:36] <DanteMaxwell> it came in a popup prompt
#4277 [23:36] <Wug> how much ram do you have
#4278 [23:36] <Thoatt> Uber5001: in the console: 'op Uber5001'
#4279 [23:36] <Wug> total
#4280 [23:36] <DanteMaxwell> 3 GB
#4281 [23:37] <DanteMaxwell> though my system is only recognizing 2.75 GB
#4282 [23:37] <Thoatt> that's because of your video card.
#4283 [23:37] <Uber5001> Thoatt, I have no console ATM, but OK. Is there a way to make myself an admin tho?
#4284 [23:37] <Wug> not without the console
#4285 [23:37] <Thoatt> Uber5001: have another op do: '/op Uber5001' in-game
#4286 [23:37] <Thoatt> or.
#4287 [23:37] <Wug> where is the console
#4288 [23:37] <Uber5001> using admin.txt?
#4289 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - What exactly are you doing with.... Is java.exe not in your environment variables?
#4290 [23:37] <Thoatt> add your ign to the ops.txt file and restart the server
#4291 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> maybe
#4292 [23:38] <Uber5001> ...I'm confused.. op=admin?
#4293 [23:38] <Wug> yes
#4294 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> I saw that fix before
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#4296 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> but that said it was for Vista/win7
#4297 [23:38] <Wug> I think the server is running and he's trying to stop it but there's no console and he doesn't have admin
#4298 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> <-- is on XP
#4299 [23:38] <Uber5001> Oh... I've read a bunch of things that say otherwise...
#4300 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> It's the same for xp as vista/7
#4301 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> ok, what should I be looking for?
#4302 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Can I walk you through it?
#4303 [23:38] <Thoatt> yes Uber5001 op=admin on a mc server
#4304 [23:38] <DanteMaxwell> absolutely
#4305 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Close the command prompt
#4306 [23:39] <DanteMaxwell> already did
#4307 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Go to your control panel, go to the java app
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#4309 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Double click on it, go to the java tab at the top
#4310 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Click on the view button
#4311 [23:39] <Uber5001> Thoatt, what stops other ops from stopping the server?
#4312 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Copy and paste the path column value here
#4313 [23:39] <Thoatt> nothing.
#4314 [23:39] <Uber5001> Oh.
#4315 [23:39] <Wug> uber - nothing.
#4316 [23:39] <Uber5001> And can one op.. op... another op?
#4317 [23:39] <Wug> but of course you can't restart it without physical access
#4318 [23:40] <Wug> yes
#4319 [23:40] <Thoatt> yes
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#4321 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#4322 [23:40] <Wug> so only op people you trues
#4323 [23:40] <Uber5001> op'ing frenzy.
#4324 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> that's my path
#4325 [23:40] <Wug> trust*
#4326 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay, great, you can close that now DanteMaxwell
#4327 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> k
#4328 [23:40] <Thoatt> +1
#4329 [23:40] <Uber5001> Kk, good to know. Thanks, guys.
#4330 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> I've got the Env variables open
#4331 [23:40] <Thoatt> only op people that are douches
#4332 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Yup, bottom panel is system variables, correct?
#4333 [23:40] <Thoatt> aren't* looool
#4334 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> does it go under system?
#4335 [23:40] <DanteMaxwell> yes
#4336 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes, look for the "PATH' variable
#4337 [23:41] <DanteMaxwell> k
#4338 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> At the end of the path value, when you edit it, please put in:
#4339 [23:41] <Wug> path contains directories, separated by semicolons
#4340 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> ^
#4341 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> ;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\
#4342 [23:41] <Uber5001> Oh, and is a vanilla server just a server with no plug ins?
#4343 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Put that exactly as is, at the end of the path value
#4344 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> There's a semi colon at the beginning
#4345 [23:41] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#4346 [23:41] <DanteMaxwell> I put the semicolon in
#4347 [23:41] <Wug> uber - yes, vanilla refers to the the default server with no extras
#4348 [23:42] <DanteMaxwell> ...
#4349 [23:42] <Wug> so each directory is separated from the others by one semicolon?
#4350 [23:42] <Wug> (if you do this wrong, you can seriously break things)
#4351 [23:42] <Thoatt> yes
#4352 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - Okay, there's a bunch of other stuff in there, correct?
#4353 [23:42] <Uber5001> On a vanilla server, is it as easy as copy and paste to bring a SSP map to SMP?
#4354 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes Uber5001
#4355 [23:42] <Thoatt> yes Uber5001 just copy the thing over
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#4357 [23:42] <Uber5001> Sweet. Thanks.
#4358 [23:43] <Uber5001> Seems a lot easier once the server actually runs. ^^
#4359 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - You still there?
#4360 [23:43] <Thoatt> yep
#4361 [23:43] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#4362 [23:43] <DanteMaxwell> they are all separated by one semicolon
#4363 [23:43] <Uber5001> ciao
#4364 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Okay, did you get that done? Can you close that now?
#4365 [23:43] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#4366 [23:43] <Wug> hit ok 14 times
#4367 [23:43] <DanteMaxwell> lol
#4368 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Launch a new command prompt
#4369 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Type in: java -version
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#4371 [23:44] <Wug> paste results
#4372 [23:44] * Wug wonders if you are using 32 or 64 bit java
#4372 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> 32, xp
#4373 [23:44] <Wug> xp does have 64 bit versions
#4374 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> generally safer to go with 32 for xp
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#4376 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> But point taken
#4377 [23:45] <Wug> he probably is on 32 bit xp, it's much better supported
#4378 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#4379 [23:45] <DanteMaxwell> java version "1.6.0_24"
#4380 [23:45] <DanteMaxwell> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
#4381 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay, the java command works now
#4382 [23:45] <DanteMaxwell> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#4383 [23:45] <Wug> try the java command from earlier again
#4384 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Just head to the directory where you have the minecraft.jar/exe at
#4385 [23:46] <Wug> then run:
#4386 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ,inecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#4387 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> er
#4388 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#4389 [23:47] <Wug> alternatively, you can use
#4390 [23:47] <Wug> java -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft.jar
#4391 [23:47] <Wug> pick a lower amount for the xmx parameter if it still gives allocation errors
#4392 [23:47] <Wug> such as: java -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.jar
#4393 [23:48] <Wug> it will run poorly with just 256 but it will run
#4394 [23:48] <Wug> hello phenex
#4395 [23:48] <Phenex> Hello Wug!
#4396 [23:48] <DanteMaxwell> woah
#4397 [23:48] <DanteMaxwell> new error
#4398 [23:48] <Phenex> Wug: did you just say that there is a 64-bit version of java?
#4399 [23:48] <Phenex> because I have windows7 ultimate 64 bit now
#4400 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> DanteMaxwell - What error?
#4401 [23:49] <DanteMaxwell> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/Launch rFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.misc
#4402 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Need to run it in the directory where you have minecraft.jar
#4403 [23:49] <Wug> phenex, there is
#4404 [23:49] <DanteMaxwell> lol
#4405 [23:49] <Phenex> Excellent
#4406 [23:49] <Wug> you have to download it with 64 bit IE, the stupid site checks your browser
#4407 [23:49] <DanteMaxwell> java -Xmx256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#4408 [23:50] <DanteMaxwell> that's the command I used for the linkup
#4409 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> What directory are you running it in?
#4410 [23:50] <Wug> try using -jar minecraft.jar
#4411 [23:50] <Phenex> I am currently trying to get my internet working on the new computer, it's telling me my WEP code is wrong, but it's not
#4412 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Ew, wep?
#4413 [23:50] <Phenex> I dont know
#4414 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Why even use it in the first place?
#4415 [23:50] <Phenex> Im pretty sure thats what it is
#4416 [23:50] <Thoatt> Phenex: Are you putting in the long wep? or the passphrase?
#4417 [23:50] <Phenex> 32 digits
#4418 [23:51] <Wug> are you entering a wpa key into a wep box
#4419 [23:51] <Phenex> No
#4420 [23:51] <Thoatt> you sure you are typing it correctly?
#4421 [23:51] <Phenex> Its asking for my key to connect to my SSID
#4422 [23:51] <Phenex> Yes, because I used my Itouch and connected to it
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#4424 [23:51] <DanteMaxwell> not following what you mean, Grey
#4425 [23:51] <Thoatt> DanteMaxwell: linux or windows?
#4426 [23:51] <Wug> dantemaxwell, use the full path (in quotes) for the minecraft jar file
#4427 [23:51] <DanteMaxwell> that appears to be not enough info for the bat file
#4428 [23:51] <Phenex> brb
#4429 [23:52] <DanteMaxwell> ah
#4430 [23:52] <DanteMaxwell> XP
#4431 [23:52] <Wug> so something like:
#4432 [23:52] <Wug> java -Xmx256M -jar <minecraft full path>\minecraft.jar
#4433 [23:52] <Wug> Or rather: java -Xmx256M -jar "<minecraft full path>\minecraft.jar"
#4434 [23:52] <Wug> can't forget them quotes
#4435 [23:53] <Wug> knowing how to use the command line is very important
#4436 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> ...
#4437 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> ok, I got that to make a response
#4438 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> but now I just get the popup 'Could not create the Java virtual machine"
#4439 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> What in the...
#4440 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> which is where I started back before I managed to get the .bat file fix to work
#4441 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#4442 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> here's the weird part
#4443 [23:54] <Wug> it sounds like your java installation is broken
#4444 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> ...
#4445 [23:54] <DanteMaxwell> I've reinstalled 3 times
#4446 [23:55] <Wug> in that case, it's probably broken remnants of old installations
#4447 [23:55] <DanteMaxwell> I used Add/Remove to eliminate old version
#4448 [23:55] <DanteMaxwell> old versions*
#4449 [23:55] <Wug> the only thing worse than a broken java installation is a broken .net installation <shudders>
#4450 [23:56] * Phenex is a dork...
#4450 [23:56] <Wug> is there a java removal tool anywhere?
#4451 [23:56] <DanteMaxwell> you mean to tell me that the .net framework might be to blame?
#4452 [23:56] * Phenex gives everyone in the room permission to slap him for being so stupid
#4452 [23:56] <Phenex> No takers? lol
#4453 [23:56] <Wug> no dante
#4454 [23:56] <Wug> it's just
#4455 [23:57] <Wug> ive had to fix broken .net installations before
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#4457 [23:57] <Wug> and it is miserable on a whole other level
#4458 [23:57] <Wug> dantemaxwell come back
#4459 [23:57] <Fausterion> So is it me, or are pre-1.4 maps incapable of spawning wolves?
#4460 [23:57] <Wug> it's just you
#4461 [23:57] <Fausterion> I can't seem to find wolves on our older map for the life of me
#4462 [23:57] <Fausterion> ahh god dammit
#4463 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Fausterion - It's just you
#4464 [23:58] <Fausterion> been travelling for over 5 mins
#4465 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're checking in the right biome
#4466 [23:58] <Fausterion> cant find any
#4467 [23:58] <Wug> stop traveling
#4468 [23:58] <Fausterion> yeah
#4469 [23:58] <Fausterion> forest and taiga
#4470 [23:58] <Fausterion> stop travelling?
#4471 [23:58] <Fausterion> hmm
#4472 [23:58] <DanteMaxwell> lol
#4473 [23:58] <Fausterion> animal spawning is less infrequent when travelling?
#4474 [23:58] <DanteMaxwell> my server has been dropping wolves like candy
#4475 [23:58] <Fausterion> i did seem to noticet his sometimes
#4476 [23:58] <Wug> anyway dante, try reinstalling java
#4477 [23:59] <Wug> maybe even send a message to sun about fixing a broken java installation
#4478 [23:59] <Wug> because i'd bet that that's the issue
#4479 [23:59] <Wug> omg bread
#4480 [23:59] * Wug eats bread