#1 [00:05] <bud> ah kk tyty
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#3 [00:31] <aetherian> wheeeeeee
#4 [00:31] <Wug> ^
#5 [00:32] <aetherian> I wish we had the old router, we had awesome security
#6 [00:32] <aetherian> instead of this silly little wep
#7 [00:33] <aetherian> it was set up so that on the router, each macaddress had to be allowed in one by one
#8 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> You can do that now..
#9 [00:33] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: technically
#10 [00:34] <Wug> it isnt hard
#11 [00:34] <Wug> though mac addresses can be spoofed
#12 [00:34] <aetherian> it is, given that
#13 [00:34] <aetherian> our grandpa lives with us, we may be leaving for a year starting in the summer, and everything needs to be officially supported so he can call them up himself if need be
#14 [00:34] <aetherian> >:|
#15 [00:35] <aetherian> rather, me and my siblings grandfather.
#16 [00:35] <aetherian> anyway, back to work we go
#17 [00:35] <aetherian> toodaloo
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#25 [01:09] <ohmusama> so I figured out my monster spawner problem (sort of)
#26 [01:09] <ohmusama> there is the TAG_String() stuff going on
#27 [01:09] <ohmusama> and I'm not 100% sure what that means.
#28 [01:10] <aetherian> the who the what the when
#29 [01:10] <ohmusama> I was in earlier querying about what data value for mobspawners resulted in which mobs being spawned
#30 [01:11] <ohmusama> I learned that mob spawners DONT have data values, but instead uses TAG_String() as part of the minecraft file format
#31 [01:12] <ohmusama> referencing the Mob id by name, ie, "creeper", "pig", "zombie" etc
#32 [01:14] <ohmusama> now, I need to learn how to apply those tags to blocks, and how they are formatted
#33 [01:14] <aetherian> what is this I don't... I haven't the foggiest idea as to what you're actually talking about
#34 [01:14] <ohmusama> lol
#35 [01:14] <aetherian> ugh, I do not feel good right now.
#36 [01:14] <aetherian> :(
#37 [01:16] <aetherian> but you're editing the values within your save?
#38 [01:16] <ohmusama> uh not exactly
#39 [01:17] <ohmusama> I'm working on a program to create little objects that could be placed
#40 [01:17] <ohmusama> I might also support saving to .schematic if I can figure that out.
#41 [01:26] <ohmusama> if you are interested in NBT format, check out : http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt
#42 [01:26] <ohmusama> its how minecraft maps are saved
#43 [01:27] <aetherian> I know that...
#44 [01:27] <ohmusama> thats where the TAG_String() ccomment comes from earlier
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#46 [01:35] <aetherian> don't you hate when you're gonna teamkill someone, for whatever reason, and somebody teamkills him /right/ before you do?
#47 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> I demand satisfaction!
#48 [01:36] * GreyVulpine slaps aetherian with a glove
#48 [01:38] <aetherian> wh-
#49 [01:38] <aetherian> FUUU
#50 [01:38] <aetherian> wait
#51 [01:39] <aetherian> when you say you slap me with a glove
#52 [01:39] <aetherian> are you holding the glove
#53 [01:39] <aetherian> or is it on your hand
#54 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjE2sxCQ_rU
#55 [01:42] <aetherian> so you're holding it
#56 [01:42] <aetherian> that's okay then
#57 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> The metal one, yes
#58 [01:43] <aetherian> that glove was metal?
#59 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Metal gauntlet, yes
#60 [01:44] <aetherian> everything I see is a blur right now, I couldn't look close
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#62 [01:45] <cbreaker> sup
#63 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#64 [01:45] <aetherian> the close/open/minimize/etc bar
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#66 [01:51] <Bartek> hi guys, i send email to payment@mojang.com few days ago and still don't get answer. can you help me?
#67 [01:52] <aetherian> nyet
#68 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> There's really nothing we can do about payment issues here.
#69 [01:53] <Bartek> Is it normal for so long did not write off?
#70 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> It is normal, yes. Mojang gets hundreds of emails a day.
#71 [01:54] <aetherian> oogh
#72 [01:55] <Bartek> But they write off every email, or thrown some into the trash?
#73 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> They read every email, as far as I know
#74 [01:57] <Bartek> ok thanks
#75 [01:58] <Bartek> are you developers of minecraft?:)
#76 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> We're not affiliated with Mojang. We're just community-run support
#77 [01:58] <Bartek> ooh
#78 [01:59] <Bartek> so nvm, thanks for help, bye
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#80 [02:02] <cbreaker> I'm trying to set up port forwarding for a server for my d-link router
#81 [02:02] <cbreaker> http://screenshots.portforward.com/Dlink/DIR-615/Port_Forwarding.htm
#82 [02:02] <cbreaker> Under name would I include minecraft.exe? And what about ip?
#83 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> Name can be anything you want, ip is the ip of the computer
#84 [02:02] <cbreaker> ak ok
#85 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Not your public ip, but the private internal ip of the computer running the server
#86 [02:03] <cbreaker> hm
#87 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is the computer running the server on?
#88 [02:03] <cbreaker> vista 64
#89 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> On that computer, hit up the Windows+R keys to bring up the run command. at the run command, type in: cmd
#90 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> At the command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#91 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Use the ipv4 address there for your port forwarding
#92 [02:04] <cbreaker> cool
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#94 [02:06] <cbreaker> I just got the game and I am just wanting to set it up so I could play from my laptop if I was out of state
#95 [02:06] <cbreaker> Thanks for the help
#96 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#97 [02:08] <cbreaker> Would I have to change the UDP or keep it at zero?
#98 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#99 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565/TCP is all you need to do
#100 [02:09] <cbreaker> cool cool
#101 [02:09] <Wug> minecraft uses tcp not udp. also, ninjad
#102 [02:10] <cbreaker> haha
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#106 [02:21] <Glothek> anyone here got a bit of knowledge about redstone computers?
#107 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> circuits.. or computers
#108 [02:21] <Arkain> Can anyone point me to a labeled verion of terrain.png fro 1.4?
#109 [02:22] <Glothek> well, I'm trying to build a simple counter and I've got a couple questions...
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#111 [02:23] <Glothek> 1.) how fast of a clock can the A diagram T flip-flop on the wiki handle, and 2.) how do you reset the counter?
#112 [02:23] <Glothek> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:T_flip-flop.gif
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#114 [02:23] <Glothek> that diagram
#115 [02:23] <aetherian> ow
#116 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> With redstone torches, anything faster than a 4-tick clock will burn them out
#117 [02:23] * Phenex is FINALLY running Minecraft
#117 [02:24] <Phenex> WITH! 64 x 64 texture packs!
#118 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> And it depends on the flip flop
#119 [02:24] <aetherian> schools need to teach boolean logic with minecraft :D
#120 [02:24] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#120 [02:24] * aetherian happyfaces
#120 [02:27] <Arkain> okay if not that can anyone at least tell me why the grass tile (first tile upper left) is listed as grass in all the labeled editions I could find but is grey in the terrain.png file?
#121 [02:27] <Glothek> bah, I think I'm just gonna design my own freakin flip-flops
#122 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Arkain - Because of biome specific grass
#123 [02:27] <aetherian> you do that :D
#124 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> It's tinted in the engine when it's rendered
#125 [02:27] <Glothek> none of the examples on the wiki really do what I want
#126 [02:27] <Arkain> ah
#127 [02:29] <Arkain> thanks vulpine
#128 [02:29] * GreyVulpine nods
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#129 [02:35] <Arkain> Besides grass, is anything else tinted by the engine?
#130 [02:38] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: I am playing on a friends server and his CPU usage skyrockets when I am playing on it. Is this normal?
#131 [02:39] * Phenex pokes GreyVulpine
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#132 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Arkain - Yes, grass, leaves...
#133 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> bark too I believe
#134 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> That's what I can name off the top of my head.
#135 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Depends on how much
#136 [02:43] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: It goes from about 20 to 100
#137 [02:43] <Phenex> Should he set affinity to 1 core>?
#138 [02:43] <Phenex> its a quadcore and its overclocked
#139 [02:44] <Glothek> well... it will count to 32...
#140 [02:44] <Glothek> it works, I guess
#141 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - If it doesn't lag the server too much, it shouldn't be a problem
#142 [02:47] <Phenex> It lags on his end, buut not mine
#143 [02:51] <Phenex> He lags a lot on his end
#144 [02:51] <aetherian> I can count to 32
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#146 [02:51] * Phenex gives aetheria a cookie
#146 [02:51] <aetherian> one...two...four...
#147 [02:53] <aetherian> that's 32 :D
#148 [02:53] * Phenex gives aetheria a gold star sticker
#148 [02:53] <Phenex> ..forgot to copy the n lol
#149 [02:54] <aetherian> oh
#150 [02:54] <aetherian> I did it wrong
#151 [02:54] <aetherian> I forgot to carry the one
#152 [02:56] <aetherian> vox, what's 1+1
#153 [02:56] <aetherian> why you gotta hate math vox :(
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#155 [02:57] <Phenex> Voxelhead: What's 1+1=?
#156 [02:57] <Phenex> lol
#157 [02:57] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead
#158 [02:57] <aetherian> is it off?
#159 [02:57] <Phenex> No idea.
#160 [02:58] <aetherian> I was asking myself more than you -.-
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#162 [03:01] <aetherian> ima go to bed early tonight
#163 [03:01] <aetherian> nighty night guys
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#166 [03:04] <Wug> phenex
#167 [03:04] <Wug> running the server and the client on the same computer can have that effect
#168 [03:05] <Wug> it might be an antivirus program
#169 [03:05] <Phenex> This is the first time its happened
#170 [03:05] <Wug> avs get update
#171 [03:05] <Wug> s
#172 [03:05] <Phenex> and he has had it running with no issues
#173 [03:05] <Phenex> hmm?
#174 [03:06] <Phenex> Early today he was playing with no lag and 3 people on the server with only 20% usage
#175 [03:06] <Wug> it's just you then?
#176 [03:06] <Wug> can this be verified?
#177 [03:06] <Phenex> Im not the one lagging
#178 [03:06] <Wug> if you connect from another computer does it still happen?
#179 [03:06] <Phenex> He experiences the lag
#180 [03:06] <Phenex> I dont have another one to connect from
#181 [03:06] <Phenex> I was on there earlier today too
#182 [03:06] <Phenex> It's just suddenly freaking out
#183 [03:07] <Wug> what does task manager say?
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#185 [03:07] <Wug> it is java consuming cpu time right?
#186 [03:07] <Wug> not something random and with bad timing?
#187 [03:07] <Phenex> I would ask him but he went to bed frustrated
#188 [03:07] <Wug> lol
#189 [03:07] <Phenex> The last one is more than likely the case
#190 [03:07] <Wug> troubleshooting someone else who's sleeping by proxy
#191 [03:07] <Phenex> He is a bit paranoid with ADHD and tourettes, so he kinda flipped out
#192 [03:08] <Phenex> haha
#193 [03:08] <Phenex> He immediately assumed it was his processor when the game started using 100%
#194 [03:08] <Phenex> and thought he had to buy a new one
#195 [03:09] <Phenex> By the way, I wasn't really looking for a troubleshoot. Was just curious if it's normal to spike to 100% usage
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#199 [03:27] <Wug> not that I know of
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#211 [03:29] <Fausterion> Hello all
#212 [03:31] <Mario8236> Fausterion: Hi.
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#215 [03:42] <Thoatt> 16 pouch pack of Fun Dip! http://i.imgur.com/GNAT0.png
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#217 [03:45] <lemon-rev> is it possible to make sand stone ? from crafting table, and not swarn
#218 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> swarn?
#219 [03:45] <lemon-rev> spawn
#220 [03:45] <lemon-rev> *
#221 [03:45] <lemon-rev> sorry
#222 [03:46] <Thoatt> yes lemon-rev
#223 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sandstone
#224 [03:46] <Thoatt> 4 sand in a square
#225 [03:46] <lemon-rev> uh
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#229 [04:02] <Thoatt> ?? commands
#230 [04:02] <VoxelHead> commands: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#231 [04:02] <Thoatt> that was a hell of a lot easier to find than I thought it'd be lol
#232 [04:02] <Mario8236> lol
#233 [04:02] <Thoatt> wft is 1k...
#234 [04:03] <Thoatt> ??>> Thoatt 1k
#235 [04:03] <Blue> ?? irc
#236 [04:03] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#237 [04:03] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#238 [04:03] <Blue> ?? linux/dns
#239 [04:03] <VoxelHead> linux/dns: To clear the local DNS cache under most Linux distributions, you should restart the networking service
#240 [04:03] <VoxelHead> linux/dns: Under Debian and Debian-based system (Ubuntu, Mint) you can accomplish this with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". Note that this might disconnect you from IRC
#241 [04:03] <Thoatt> brah
#242 [04:03] <Blue> ?? linux/dontdothis
#243 [04:03] <VoxelHead> linux/dontdothis: :():{:&:};:
#244 [04:03] <Thoatt> ??>> yourname commands
#245 [04:04] <Blue> ?? 1k
#246 [04:04] <Thoatt> blue...
#247 [04:04] <Blue> ?? ask
#248 [04:04] <Thoatt> do: ??>> Blue 1k
#249 [04:04] <Blue> ?? wiki
#250 [04:04] <Thoatt> so it doesn't spam the channel...
#251 [04:04] <Blue> You guys are so fucking pathetic
#252 [04:04] <Blue> I mean lazy
#253 [04:04] <Blue> lol
#254 [04:04] <Blue> Not
#255 [04:04] <Blue> pathetic
#256 [04:04] <Blue> That'd be rude x.x
#257 [04:05] <Blue> ?? smp/skins
#258 [04:05] <Blue> ?? win/reinst
#259 [04:05] <Thoatt> dude...
#260 [04:06] <Blue> what?
#261 [04:06] <Blue> ?? retro
#262 [04:06] <Thoatt> don't make it spam the channel..
#263 [04:06] <Blue> Its not
#264 [04:06] <Blue> Flood prevention has caused my answer to be in a CTCP NOTICE instead of in-channel.
#265 [04:06] <Thoatt> I assume because there is spam prevention on it.
#266 [04:07] <Thoatt> ??>> Thoatt linux/dontdothis
#267 [04:07] <Thoatt> loool
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#270 [04:19] <viledead> Hello all, I hear this is the place for help
#271 [04:19] <Wug> we can do stuff like that
#272 [04:19] <lemon-rev> i suppose it, is thats why they call it mc help :P
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#274 [04:19] <Thoatt> Wtf? We're supposed to /help/ people?
#275 [04:19] <lemon-rev> lol
#276 [04:19] <Wug> naawww
#277 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, lies
#278 [04:19] <Thoatt> Well crap.. I've been doinitwrong
#279 [04:20] <lemon-rev> oh dang
#280 [04:20] <viledead> well, about 15min or so after starting my SP world my screen goes black and becomes unresponsive
#281 [04:20] <Thoatt> viledead: reinstall windows.
#282 [04:20] <Wug> have you uninstalled any mods lately
#283 [04:20] * GreyVulpine baps Thoatt
#283 [04:20] <Thoatt> ??> viledead win/reinst
#284 [04:20] <VoxelHead> viledead: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#285 [04:20] <viledead> I had some mods, then updated and I haven't added anything since
#286 [04:20] <VoxelHead> viledead: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#287 [04:21] <Wug> vox, you're speaking! :D
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#289 [04:21] <viledead> I've tried completely removing minecraft and reinstalling and still get the same thing
#290 [04:21] <Thoatt> windows or linux?
#291 [04:21] <viledead> Windows xp sp 3
#292 [04:21] <Thoatt> Have you tried re-installing java?
#293 [04:22] <viledead> I have not. I'll try that now
#294 [04:22] <Thoatt> k
#295 [04:22] <adamkex> are vservers usually upgradable?
#296 [04:22] <Thoatt> sometimes
#297 [04:22] <Thoatt> depending on the host.
#298 [04:22] <adamkex> ok
#299 [04:24] <Thoatt> Anyone want to rent a vpc from me? :D
#300 [04:24] <Thoatt> lol
#301 [04:25] <Thoatt> I'll make a virtual pc with whatever os you want, :D lol
#302 [04:25] <Thoatt> better yet, does anyone want one to play around on? lol
#303 [04:25] <adamkex> 2/1 Mbit YEAH
#304 [04:25] <Thoatt> 24/6 here :D
#305 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#306 [04:26] <Thoatt> Concast ftw!
#307 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Comcast can... bah
#308 [04:26] <Thoatt> 'con'cast
#309 [04:26] <adamkex> Thoatt: i have 50/10, swe?
#310 [04:27] <Thoatt> me?
#311 [04:27] <adamkex> yeah
#312 [04:27] <Thoatt> nein!
#313 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Neit!
#314 [04:27] <Thoatt> Damn... that is really close to what I pay for...
#315 [04:27] <Thoatt> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1237092062.png
#316 [04:27] <adamkex> we have similar offers for connections, i had 24 mbit download once
#317 [04:27] <Thoatt> amazing. lol
#318 [04:28] <Thoatt> <-- Port Huron, MI, USA hur
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#322 [04:35] <TheBix> oi new update!
#323 [04:35] <TheBix> anyone know the changes?
#324 [04:35] <lemon-rev> prob fix prev mas trouble that had with 1.4
#325 [04:35] <TheBix> some one tell the minecraft chan about the update
#326 [04:35] <TheBix> MAS?
#327 [04:35] <lemon-rev> well things like creepers not looking up
#328 [04:36] <TheBix> is the server changed?/
#329 [04:36] <lemon-rev> and stuff like that
#330 [04:36] <TheBix> I hope we don't require a new server.
#331 [04:36] <lemon-rev> aprils fools joke was removed apparently
#332 [04:36] <TheBix> ....
#333 [04:36] <TheBix> finally
#334 [04:36] <lemon-rev> and yes you do lol
#335 [04:36] <TheBix> no we don't
#336 [04:37] <TheBix> the protocol is not changed
#337 [04:37] <TheBix> new server will just stop april fools shit appearing
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#341 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#342 [04:41] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.484 seconds.
#343 [04:41] <Mily> Hi all
#344 [04:41] <Blue> !ping
#345 [04:41] <GreyBot> Blue Your Ping time was 0.218 seconds.
#346 [04:41] <Blue> GreyBot is still the best
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#348 [04:41] <Mily> i am having problems with server 2003 crashing when people connect to the minecraft server
#349 [04:42] <Mily> ping
#350 [04:42] <Mily> !ping
#351 [04:42] <GreyBot> Mily Your Ping time was 0.281 seconds.
#352 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> The OS crashes?
#353 [04:47] <Mily> yes the os
#354 [04:47] <mib_fr3kwo> Hey guys, I can't get minecraft to work
#355 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Mily - Can you give us any more info?
#356 [04:47] <mib_fr3kwo> after loading the data, it just goes to a black screen
#357 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_fr3kwo - Why is that?
#358 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> What operating system mib_fr3kwo?
#359 [04:47] <mib_fr3kwo> Vista
#360 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_fr3kwo win/reinst
#361 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mib_fr3kwo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#362 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mib_fr3kwo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#363 [04:48] <Mily> sure i am running intell due 4gb ram server2003 all uptodate
#364 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Mily - How about the crash itself? BSOD?
#365 [04:48] <mib_fr3kwo> ok ty
#366 [04:49] <Mily> well i dont have a screen on the server Rdp crashes and the server does come back
#367 [04:49] <Mily> after its restart
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#369 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> So how do you know the OS crashes?
#370 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Or if it's something else?
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#372 [04:53] <Mily> well the os crashes becouse the link to the server goes down
#373 [04:53] <Mily> ping ip
#374 [04:53] <Mily> no response
#375 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Many times, the minecraft server crashes the NIC.
#376 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> The OS is fine, but the NIC gets overloaded with data.
#377 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> So I just want to make sure it's that, and not the entire OS
#378 [04:54] <Mily> when rdp comes back up i get why did the server restart
#379 [04:54] <Mily> when i log in to administrator
#380 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you force reboot the server then?
#381 [04:54] <Mily> no minecraft did
#382 [04:55] <Mily> when i connect it crashes every thing
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#384 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Do you get anything from windows' event viewer?
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#386 [05:00] <Mily> java application crash
#387 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com it?
#388 [05:00] <Mily> not near my server at at work
#389 [05:01] <Mily> now i have read that you need to increse the amout of ram it uses
#390 [05:01] <Mily> but i carnt see this been the problem as java will use more ram when it needs it
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#392 [05:04] <Mily> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=227325
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#394 [05:05] <Mily> another guy also having the same problem
#395 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Using bukkit?
#396 [05:08] <mib_fr3kwo> hey guys, the screen is still black after I deleted the BIN folder in .minecraft and redownloaded it
#397 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_fr3kwo - I'd then try uninstalling and reinstalling java. Then updating your video drivers
#398 [05:10] <mib_fr3kwo> when I click the the Minecraft window my computer starts making a sound like the harddrive is spinning as well, only when I have minecraft on the screen
#399 [05:10] <mib_fr3kwo> hmmm ok
#400 [05:12] <viledead> reinstalling java fixed my black outs, thank you guys
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#402 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes frogs?
#403 [05:17] <frogs> i have a server running for just me and my little brother, it's for him to be creative and just build stuff
#404 [05:17] <Kimax> ready to help :D
#405 [05:17] <frogs> he gave himself bedrock from my account
#406 [05:17] <frogs> can i get rid of it?
#407 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh yikes, no way to get rid of that without a mod or a map editor
#408 [05:17] <Kimax> ^^
#409 [05:17] <frogs> simplist map editor for linux?
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#411 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Probably the easiest way is with a map editor, MCedit will work if you have python installed
#412 [05:18] <frogs> i will see what i can do, thank you for your help
#413 [05:18] <Kimax> frogs you can take a look here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#414 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> MCedit download is here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15522#p271802
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#417 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> There really aren't any other good map editors, NBTedit is the only other one that supports beta
#418 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> NBTforge, sorry.
#419 [05:22] <frogs> currently downloading MCedit.... fingers crossed i guess
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#421 [05:23] <Mily> no i am not using bukkit
#422 [05:23] <Mily> should i be
#423 [05:24] <Aska990> hello
#424 [05:25] <Kimax> in theory its possible to destroy bedrock, but it would take 12 hours and 30 minutes
#425 [05:25] <Aska990> what ? Oo
#426 [05:25] <Kimax> yea
#427 [05:26] <Aska990> need to test :D
#428 [05:26] <Kimax> good luck
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#430 [05:26] <frogs> yeah, he made a staircase
#431 [05:26] <loaded1> can anyone help me update my mod
#432 [05:27] <Kimax> loaded1 stop asking
#433 [05:27] <loaded1> >.<
#434 [05:27] <Kimax> i allready gave you en anwser
#435 [05:28] <Kimax> you made it... you update it...
#436 [05:28] <Kimax> and BTW, wrong place to ask... try ask in one of the MC forums
#437 [05:28] <Kimax> like www.minecraftforum.net
#438 [05:29] <Kimax> ;)
#439 [05:29] <loaded1> ok
#440 [05:31] <Aska990> Minecraft 1.4_01 ?
#441 [05:31] <Aska990> "Removed April Fool's joke"
#442 [05:31] <Aska990> ><
#443 [05:32] <Aska990> if the mods are compatible with v1.4, are them compatibles with 1.4_01 ?
#444 [05:33] <loaded1> no
#445 [05:33] <loaded1> some are
#446 [05:33] <loaded1> but not all are
#447 [05:33] <loaded1> thats why i need it updated
#448 [05:40] <Kimax> Aska990 most of them should be... i think its only the achievement system they are working on right now
#449 [05:41] <loaded1> somedont but some do
#450 [05:41] <loaded1> most do
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#452 [05:45] <Aska990> Industrialcraft is not compatible :( :( :(
#453 [05:45] <Aska990> fxckng black screen
#454 [05:48] <Kimax> craftbukkit is still working... and so dos all my mods :D
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#456 [05:53] <minecraft_dude> hey guys
#457 [05:53] <minecraft_dude> any1 here
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#459 [05:54] <Vector> o.o
#460 [05:54] <Vector> i am, heh
#461 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> can sum1 plz help me with server problems
#462 [05:54] <Vector> not for long though!
#463 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> can u join my server
#464 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> just to test it
#465 [05:54] <Vector> sure
#466 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> plz
#467 [05:54] <Vector> what's thelink?
#468 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> its twowords.dyndns.org
#469 [05:54] <Vector> my name is AlphaBlend
#470 [05:54] <minecraft_dude> ty
#471 [05:55] <minecraft_dude> did u try
#472 [05:55] <Vector> "Not Whitelisted"
#473 [05:55] <minecraft_dude> dam
#474 [05:55] <minecraft_dude> ty for trying
#475 [05:55] <Vector> eh
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#477 [05:55] <minecraft_dude> ill try fix
#478 [05:55] <Vector> you setting up a whitelist?
#479 [05:56] <Kimax> minecraft_dude this might be helpfull http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_commands
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#481 [05:59] <minecraft_dude> kinda
#482 [05:59] <minecraft_dude> but it shouldnt work yet
#483 [05:59] <minecraft_dude> thanks but not thanks =)
#484 [06:00] <minecraft_dude> hey sorry to be a pain but can u try again
#485 [06:00] <Vector> ;p
#486 [06:00] <minecraft_dude> did u try?
#487 [06:01] <Vector> same
#488 [06:01] <Vector> i'm heading to bed
#489 [06:01] <minecraft_dude> did it work?
#490 [06:01] <minecraft_dude> btw thanks for trying
#491 [06:01] <minecraft_dude> cya
#492 [06:02] <Vector> bai
#493 [06:02] <Vector> yw
#494 [06:02] <Vector> afk
#495 [06:03] <minecraft_dude> k
#496 [06:04] <minecraft_dude> can any1 else plz try my server?
#497 [06:04] <minecraft_dude> any1 plz?
#498 [06:05] <minecraft_dude> srsly any1 there
#499 [06:06] <lemon-rev> type !check
#500 [06:06] <minecraft_dude> yeah but i want sum1 to actually go in
#501 [06:06] <minecraft_dude> its at twowords.dyndns.org
#502 [06:06] <minecraft_dude> plz
#503 [06:06] <lemon-rev> type !check
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#505 [06:06] <lemon-rev> i dont need to , it will tell me if it works
#506 [06:06] <minecraft_dude> no
#507 [06:06] <minecraft_dude> i know it works
#508 [06:07] <lemon-rev> then ?
#509 [06:07] <minecraft_dude> but im doing whitelist testing
#510 [06:07] <lemon-rev> oh
#511 [06:07] <lemon-rev> lol
#512 [06:07] <minecraft_dude> just try plz
#513 [06:07] <adamkex> minecraft classic = minecraft creative?
#514 [06:07] <minecraft_dude> plz?
#515 [06:07] <lemon-rev> loaidnng
#516 [06:07] <lemon-rev> loading
#517 [06:07] <lemon-rev> not whitelisted
#518 [06:08] <minecraft_dude> cool
#519 [06:08] <minecraft_dude> ty
#520 [06:08] <Aska990> all the mods I test semm to be not compatible with v1.4_01 :____;
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#522 [06:14] <minecraft_dude> hey lemon-rev can u plz try again
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#524 [06:14] <minecraft_dude> plz
#525 [06:15] <minecraft_dude> anyone then?
#526 [06:15] <minecraft_dude> can any1 check my server?
#527 [06:15] <Rhayvin> so the 1.4_01 patch apprently cause MC to shut off right after the Mojang logo
#528 [06:15] <minecraft_dude> its at twowords.dyndns.org
#529 [06:15] <minecraft_dude> no mine works
#530 [06:16] <minecraft_dude> but can u check my server plz
#531 [06:16] <minecraft_dude> anyone plz
#532 [06:17] <minecraft_dude> any1 here
#533 [06:17] <Thoatt> what....
#534 [06:17] <Aska990> sorry, I can't go on any multiplayer server
#535 [06:17] <minecraft_dude> awww
#536 [06:17] <Aska990> excepted the one which is loacted in my country :/
#537 [06:17] <minecraft_dude> oh
#538 [06:18] <minecraft_dude> any1 else then?
#539 [06:18] <Thoatt> what....
#540 [06:18] <Thoatt> what do you need
#541 [06:18] <minecraft_dude> can u check my server plz
#542 [06:18] <minecraft_dude> its at twowords.dyndns.org
#543 [06:19] <minecraft_dude> plz
#544 [06:19] <Thoatt> !check twowords.dyndns.org
#545 [06:19] <minecraft_dude> yeah but i wanna check my whitelist thingy
#546 [06:19] <minecraft_dude> i know it works
#547 [06:19] <minecraft_dude> jsut not the whitelist stuff
#548 [06:20] <minecraft_dude> DID IT WORK
#549 [06:20] <minecraft_dude> ooops
#550 [06:20] * Thoatt does not connect to servers until he checks to see if it's up.
#550 [06:20] <Thoatt> and yes, it works
#551 [06:20] <minecraft_dude> tytyty
#552 [06:20] <Thoatt> beb
#553 [06:21] <Thoatt> brb rather...
#554 [06:27] <minecraft_dude> u back?
#555 [06:28] <minecraft_dude> can u check mah server again?
#556 [06:28] <minecraft_dude> did it work?
#557 [06:28] <Thoatt> still not whitelisted.
#558 [06:30] <Aska990> why has Notch made this update ?
#559 [06:30] <Aska990> it brings nothing
#560 [06:31] <Aska990> but plenty of mods are now not working
#561 [06:31] <Thoatt> It removed the april fool's joke.
#562 [06:31] <Thoatt> You weren't forced to update :P
#563 [06:31] <Aska990> I know ><
#564 [06:31] <Aska990> can I go back to the previous version ?
#565 [06:31] <Thoatt> not legally.
#566 [06:31] <Aska990> -.-
#567 [06:32] <Thoatt> Because you'd have to download the old ./mincraft/bin files.
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#569 [06:34] <minecraft_dude> sorry to be a massive pain thoatt, but can u check again plz
#570 [06:35] <minecraft_dude> did it work?
#571 [06:35] <Thoatt> still not whitelisted... what are you trying to do?
#572 [06:36] <Thoatt> to add someone to the whitelist: in the console: whitelist add [name], for in game: /whitelist add [name]
#573 [06:37] <minecraft_dude> sorry
#574 [06:37] <minecraft_dude> im trying to get whitelist working
#575 [06:37] <minecraft_dude> and its working
#576 [06:37] <Thoatt> jeesus..... this is being played.... with one controller
#577 [06:38] <Thoatt> for 4 games:
#578 [06:38] <Thoatt> http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/super-mario-quadrun/
#579 [06:42] <Aska990> OO
#580 [06:43] <Thoatt> Aside from being a fustercluck of sound, that's damn impressive.
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#585 [07:01] <lollercaust> hi I'm stuck basically trying to make a transistor with redstone (with a base, collector and an emitter) like in this schematic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BJT_NPN_symbol_%28case%29.svg
#586 [07:02] <lollercaust> is it possible to build one like that using redstone?
#587 [07:02] <Thoatt> Why not just use a diode?
#588 [07:02] <Thoatt> Did you just wan an and gate?
#589 [07:02] <lollercaust> hmm I'm not sure
#590 [07:03] <lollercaust> if you mean the repeaters then one problem would be that they always have a delay
#591 [07:03] <Thoatt> 1 and 2 have to be powered to get power from 3
#592 [07:03] <Thoatt> the repeater block has almost o delay
#593 [07:03] <Thoatt> no*
#594 [07:03] <lollercaust> hm you said something there
#595 [07:03] <lollercaust> I guess that could work
#596 [07:04] <lollercaust> with the and gates I mean.. this will go into a clock so optimally there should be no delays at all in these circuits
#597 [07:04] <lollercaust> which is why I can't use repeaters even at their lowest setting
#598 [07:04] <lollercaust> but I didn't think of using and gates as a transistor
#599 [07:04] <Thoatt> there is nothing faster than a repeater ;/
#600 [07:04] <Thoatt> :/*
#601 [07:05] <Thoatt> a repeater is as fast as a torch.
#602 [07:05] <lollercaust> oh
#603 [07:05] <lollercaust> in that case I guess it's impossible to build a clock?
#604 [07:05] <Thoatt> Not impossible... just won't be acurate lol
#605 [07:05] <Thoatt> accurate*
#606 [07:05] <lollercaust> then it is impossible lol
#607 [07:05] <Thoatt> is this in smp?
#608 [07:05] <lollercaust> yes
#609 [07:05] <Thoatt> Did you want some help making the gates?
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#611 [07:05] <Thoatt> I'm pretty decent with redstone
#612 [07:05] <lollercaust> no I can do that, but thanks
#613 [07:06] <Thoatt> kk :D
#614 [07:06] <lollercaust> this was for a project that I guess is stillborn anyway
#615 [07:06] <lollercaust> i.e. building a clock XD
#616 [07:06] <Thoatt> :/
#617 [07:06] <lollercaust> and even with 0.1 second delays that's impossible
#618 [07:07] <Thoatt> redstone counts in cycles though, not seconds
#619 [07:07] <lollercaust> how does that work?
#620 [07:09] <Thoatt> It's supposed to be 0.1 seconds, but it's almost never that exact.
#621 [07:09] <lollercaust> ok
#622 [07:09] <lollercaust> what I don't understand is how people have been able to make CPUs with redstone
#623 [07:10] <Thoatt> lots of time.
#624 [07:10] <lollercaust> because at some point that would require delay-free circuits too right?
#625 [07:10] <Thoatt> lots of gates
#626 [07:10] <Thoatt> nope
#627 [07:10] <lollercaust> yeah but that makes for even more delay
#628 [07:10] <Thoatt> if you look at all the ALUs that people make, they all are very slow
#629 [07:11] <lollercaust> but are they slow because they have few transistors or because they have so much latency?
#630 [07:12] <Thoatt> combined, the times of the gates and the repeaters takes a ton of time to get power where it needs to go.
#631 [07:12] <lollercaust> ok
#632 [07:12] <lollercaust> but that some circuits will take much longer to relay their signal than others is not a problem?
#633 [07:13] <Thoatt> all depends on how you make it lol
#634 [07:13] <lollercaust> in the clock that we were trying to make for example that's a dealbreaker because we're trying to make it count seconds
#635 [07:14] <Thoatt> You MIGHT be able to get it very close
#636 [07:14] <Thoatt> You could probably make a stopwatch very easily as long as you keep the max time down to make it more acurate.
#637 [07:16] <Thoatt> Would you mind if I joined you on the server you are playing on?
#638 [07:17] <Thoatt> I feel like playing around with redstone, but I don't want to do it on my normal server :/
#639 [07:17] <Thoatt> I'm bored of it atm
#640 [07:17] <Thoatt> hmm.. I could go play for a bit on mitpatterson's server...
#641 [07:17] <Thoatt> yeah, I think I'll do that..
#642 [07:17] <mitpatterson> lol yah
#643 [07:18] <mitpatterson> BTW i haven't updated the server(granted it optional)
#644 [07:18] <Thoatt> lol
#645 [07:18] <Thoatt> did you check out my house thing?
#646 [07:18] <mitpatterson> yah, cool
#647 [07:18] <Thoatt> I need to clean up the inside and make an actual inside house.
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#656 [08:05] <Kimax> wow... i just cleaned up the whole apartment
#657 [08:05] <Kimax> :O
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#659 [08:07] <necrodoom> hello?
#660 [08:08] <necrodoom> anyone here
#661 [08:11] <Kimax> yes
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#663 [08:14] <TakenBlade> hey guys
#664 [08:14] <TakenBlade> how do u register?
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#666 [08:15] <bread> derp
#667 [08:15] <Kimax> herp
#668 [08:17] <necrodoom> ?
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#670 [08:17] <Kimax> necrodoom ?
#671 [08:17] <luckz> Thoatt: redstone is way cooler with mods anyway, shrug
#672 [08:19] <necrodoom> hm can some people test a quick fix of mine for low FPS? you dont have to download anything
#673 [08:19] <luckz> why don't you just write how to do your amazing fix instead of mysteriously asking for volunteers.
#674 [08:20] <necrodoom> not sure why are you angry, but k
#675 [08:20] <necrodoom> open minecraft.jar
#676 [08:20] <necrodoom> delete folders achievements and meta.inf
#677 [08:20] <necrodoom> run it
#678 [08:21] <necrodoom> if you have high FPS like 80+ it wont work as well
#679 [08:21] <Glothek> what does the meta.inf folder do, anyway? every mod says to delete it so the mod will work
#680 [08:21] <Kimax> necrodoom im allready playing with a little over 100FPS
#681 [08:22] <necrodoom> kimax: ok
#682 [08:22] <luckz> Glothek: it's like ze copy protekschun, to czech integrity and whatnot.
#683 [08:22] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#684 [08:23] <Glothek> sunuva... did that update just blow my mods away?
#685 [08:23] <Kimax> necrodoom if you wanna get higher FPS... then build a new computer...
#686 [08:23] <Glothek> yup, sure did
#687 [08:23] <Kimax> Glothek :D
#688 [08:24] <necrodoom> yeah, i should spent all my money just to make 1 game work >.
#689 [08:24] <necrodoom> get real
#690 [08:25] <Kimax> i am real
#691 [08:26] <necrodoom> minecraft eats way too much resources for a game like that
#692 [08:26] <Glothek> oh good, it completely broke the mod
#693 [08:26] <necrodoom> glothek: what?
#694 [08:26] <Glothek> I just get a black screen after login, even after putting the .class files in the new minecraft.jar
#695 [08:26] <Glothek> and yes, i deleted the meta.inf folder
#696 [08:27] <Kimax> why even do that?
#697 [08:28] <necrodoom> well meta.inf caused minecraft to not work
#698 [08:28] <necrodoom> if any channge is done rto the files
#699 [08:28] <Kimax> necrodoom i used like 1500 $ on my computer for like 2 years ago... and it is still running at high power
#700 [08:28] <Kimax> and it is possible to build a gamer PC for under 1000 $
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#702 [08:29] <necrodoom> my old computer can run many 3D games with lots of effects, yet minecraft eats my RAM like nothing
#703 [08:29] <Kimax> how much ram do you got?
#704 [08:30] <necrodoom> 1 gb ram, enough for modern games like doom 3
#705 [08:30] <Kimax> ROFL
#706 [08:31] <Kimax> minecraft uses about 600-700 mb of ram... and thats really NOTHING
#707 [08:31] <SlashLife> At least not considering that it's written in Java ...
#708 [08:32] <Kimax> exactly
#709 [08:32] <SlashLife> But that explains why it keeps on hanging for me.
#710 [08:32] <Kimax> hanging?
#711 [08:32] <necrodoom> kimax: then tell me why by using some mods, like optiminer
#712 [08:32] <necrodoom> i can almost HALVE the RAM usage
#713 [08:32] <necrodoom> and TRIPLE the FPS
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#715 [08:33] <SlashLife> Yeah; I have streaks of 80+ fps and then it goes down again to 3-4 fps.
#716 [08:33] <SlashLife> Nightfall is a very common cause for performance breakdown.
#717 [08:33] <SlashLife> Other than that I have no clue why it happens.
#718 [08:33] <necrodoom> slashllife: delete the achievements folder in minecraft.jar, it has a file called map.txt which keeps track of ALL entities
#719 [08:34] <Kimax> necrodoom mostlikely it preloads more graphic to the graphiccard...
#720 [08:34] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#721 [08:36] <Glothek> I spent $700 on my computer and it gets 50 FPS
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#723 [08:36] <necrodoom> glothek
#724 [08:37] <necrodoom> glothek
#725 [08:41] <Kimax> Glothek the server is back online
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#727 [08:49] <Baduggax> Greyvulpine here?
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#729 [08:50] <Glothek> still getting a black screen after login... this modpack worked on 1.4 (i.e. yesterday
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#731 [08:50] <Glothek> vanilla mc works
#732 [08:51] <Baduggax> Ok
#733 [08:53] <Glothek> 1.4 modloader doesn't work either
#734 [08:53] <necrodoom> 1.4 modloader doesnt work for 1.4_01
#735 [08:53] <necrodoom> known
#736 [08:53] <Glothek> k
#737 [08:53] <Glothek> so I'm modless until they update them, or is there something I can do?
#738 [08:54] <necrodoom> not much can be done
#739 [08:55] <Glothek> no big deal, I just wanted to work on my big redstone creation... still have about 30 vanilla games :-P
#740 [09:02] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#741 [09:06] <Aska990> I respect Notch for his work
#742 [09:07] <necrodoom> why
#743 [09:07] <Aska990> but I can not understand why he has made this stupid update
#744 [09:07] <necrodoom> me neither
#745 [09:07] <necrodoom> btw, how much FPS you get
#746 [09:08] <Aska990> in MC ?
#747 [09:08] <Aska990> I don't know
#748 [09:08] <necrodoom> er
#749 [09:08] <Aska990> I run it on Ubuntu, I don't have Fraps for testing
#750 [09:08] <Aska990> sorry
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#752 [09:08] <necrodoom> im not talking about fraps
#753 [09:11] <Aska990> I forgot that F3 could show FPS ^^
#754 [09:11] <Aska990> between 50 and 80
#755 [09:11] <Aska990> approximatively
#756 [09:11] <Aska990> hum, more 50-115
#757 [09:12] <necrodoom> ok
#758 [09:12] <Aska990> and 75-115 now
#759 [09:14] <Aska990> go to sleep
#760 [09:14] <Aska990> bye everyone
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#762 [09:16] <Contex> Has anyone had any problem with Ubuntu 10.10 and network timeout?
#763 [09:16] <Contex> as in, server hosting
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#768 [09:25] <Ash243x> hello?
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#771 [09:27] <huddler> Hello can someone help me ;) ?
#772 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> ??> huddler help
#773 [09:27] <VoxelHead> huddler: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#774 [09:27] <VoxelHead> huddler: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#775 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> crap
#776 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> ??> huddler ask
#777 [09:27] <VoxelHead> huddler: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#778 [09:27] <VoxelHead> huddler: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#779 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> Thats more like it.
#780 [09:28] <oldtopmanserver> So ask away!
#781 [09:28] <huddler> Yeah. I got a problem with texture pack . When i play minecraft normaly i can have texture pack on and i need Admin if u know what i mean .
#782 [09:28] <huddler> Because i cant talk in skype if i play normal
#783 [09:28] <oldtopmanserver> Are you using any mods?
#784 [09:29] <necrodoom> huddler: i dont understand what you said
#785 [09:29] <huddler> I need Administrator
#786 [09:29] <huddler> to talk in skype when i play minecraft
#787 [09:29] <huddler> And then my texure pack is gone ? :D
#788 [09:29] <huddler> When i play in Administrator?
#789 [09:30] <huddler> And it's there when i play in Non Administrator
#790 [09:30] <necrodoom> thats wierd
#791 [09:30] <huddler> Yepp
#792 [09:30] <necrodoom> how are you installing the texture packs?
#793 [09:30] <huddler> Hmm a friend gave me them. And i installed from a Website a Swedish Website.
#794 [09:31] <huddler> That's wierd that i have them in non Administrator and when i use Administrator it's gone ? :D
#795 [09:31] <huddler> I can just play with the Classic one.
#796 [09:31] <necrodoom> i ment how you installed the texture pack on client
#797 [09:32] <huddler> on zip.
#798 [09:33] <huddler> Winrar
#799 [09:33] <necrodoom> errrr
#800 [09:33] <huddler> D:D
#801 [09:33] <necrodoom> what is your native lunguage?
#802 [09:33] <huddler> Swedish
#803 [09:33] <necrodoom> hm
#804 [09:33] <necrodoom> well i can help you here
#805 [09:33] <necrodoom> cant*
#806 [09:34] <huddler> Okey ^^
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#808 [09:47] <huddler> Hello can anyone help me with my Texture pack when i play i need to have Administator or what it called ;) And Then the texturepack is gone and when i have Non Admin its on? So i need help with it.
#809 [09:47] <huddler> I need it because i cant talk on skype then ./
#810 [09:47] <huddler> :/*
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#812 [09:52] <skippydippy> Hello can someone help me ? ;)
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#815 [10:00] <skippydippy> Hello can anyone help me ? ;)
#816 [10:00] <Thoatt> ??> skippydippy ask
#817 [10:00] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#818 [10:00] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#819 [10:02] <skippydippy> Okey ;)
#820 [10:03] <skippydippy> Hmm okey i need help with my texture pack and something is really wrong because when i use Adminstrator it dosen't work ...
#821 [10:03] <skippydippy> And it works witouth Adminstrator and i need it because i cant speak on skype if i not use it :(
#822 [10:03] <Thoatt> disable UAC :D
#823 [10:04] <Thoatt> ?? uac
#824 [10:04] <Thoatt> ?? win/uac
#825 [10:04] <Thoatt> vox... YOU'RE USELESS
#826 [10:04] <Thoatt> lol
#827 [10:04] <skippydippy> So does u know how to do it?
#828 [10:04] <Thoatt> dunno if that['s the problem, but it sounds like a permissions issue to me..
#829 [10:04] <Thoatt> are you sure the texture pack is for the current version?
#830 [10:05] <skippydippy> Yeah Because i can use it when i dont play on Adminstrator
#831 [10:05] <skippydippy> Or what it called
#832 [10:05] <skippydippy> But i need it because i play with friends so we talk on Skype ^^
#833 [10:05] <Thoatt> you can use it when you DON'T?
#834 [10:05] <Thoatt> uhh... lol
#835 [10:05] <skippydippy> Adminstrator or what it calls xD
#836 [10:06] <skippydippy> I have a bad english
#837 [10:06] <skippydippy> Iam from sweden D:
#838 [10:06] <skippydippy> :D
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#840 [10:06] <Thoatt> What version of windows are you using?
#841 [10:06] <skippydippy> Vista.
#842 [10:06] <skippydippy> I got Windows Vista.
#843 [10:07] <skippydippy> Do u even know what Adminstator is ? I dont know how to say it in english so i think that's it.
#844 [10:07] <skippydippy> Not 100 % sure.
#845 [10:08] <Thoatt> backup your maps and textures from %appdata%/.minecraft then delete the %appdata%/.minecraft folder, then re-run minecraft
#846 [10:08] <Thoatt> yes I understand what administrator is lol
#847 [10:08] <skippydippy> Okey cool ;)
#848 [10:08] <Thoatt> I'm not sure if that will fix it, but it should re-set the permissions for that folder.
#849 [10:09] <skippydippy> Yeah. But thats wierd is that I can use Texture pack in Non Administartor and when i use it , it works ?
#850 [10:09] <Thoatt> wait...
#851 [10:09] <Thoatt> fail
#852 [10:09] <Thoatt> skippydippy:
#853 [10:09] <skippydippy> What ? :D
#854 [10:09] <Thoatt> reinstall the texture pack to the admin appdata folder.
#855 [10:10] <Thoatt> you have it installed on the account that is not admin.
#856 [10:10] <Thoatt> they are different folders.
#857 [10:10] <skippydippy> Aha okey.
#858 [10:11] <skippydippy> Well what do u mean with Appdata folder ?
#859 [10:11] <skippydippy> I got my Texturepacks in the Texturepack map.
#860 [10:11] <skippydippy> Should i take it some other place?
#861 [10:11] <Thoatt> %appdata%
#862 [10:11] <skippydippy> yea
#863 [10:12] <Thoatt> ok so.. you have two different accounts.
#864 [10:12] <skippydippy> I think so
#865 [10:12] <skippydippy> :D
#866 [10:12] <Thoatt> Both accounts have seperate %appdata% folders
#867 [10:12] <Thoatt> You need to install the texture pack on both accounts :D
#868 [10:13] <skippydippy> Okey iam in Appdata and it's a text roaming and i going in on .Minecraft?
#869 [10:13] <skippydippy> And then Texturepacks?
#870 [10:14] <Thoatt> yes
#871 [10:14] <skippydippy> Okey i got 2 Texturepacks there
#872 [10:14] <skippydippy> Should i remove the?
#873 [10:14] <skippydippy> Them*
#874 [10:15] <Thoatt> You do not have to
#875 [10:15] <Thoatt> are you on the admin account?
#876 [10:15] <skippydippy> I dont know i just got one map.
#877 [10:15] <skippydippy> One .Minecraft map
#878 [10:15] <Thoatt> one sec ok?
#879 [10:15] <skippydippy> Yes;)
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#881 [10:19] <Thoatt> skippydippy:
#882 [10:19] <skippydippy> Yes
#883 [10:19] <skippydippy> ?
#884 [10:20] <Thoatt> Ok, this is what I mean
#885 [10:20] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/zHpgW.png
#886 [10:20] <Thoatt> You have two seperate texturepack folders for 2 seperate accounts
#887 [10:20] <skippydippy> Okey
#888 [10:20] <skippydippy> well wait
#889 [10:20] <Thoatt> make sure the texture is in both of the folders :D
#890 [10:20] <skippydippy> Well okey ;)
#891 [10:22] <skippydippy> Cant u make Teamviewer with me ? ;)
#892 [10:22] <skippydippy> Think u will make it faster because i dont understand
#893 [10:22] <Thoatt> sure :D
#894 [10:22] <skippydippy> nice ;)
#895 [10:22] <Thoatt> just pm me the info :)
#896 [10:22] <skippydippy> Yepp
#897 [10:22] <skippydippy> :)
#898 [10:22] <skippydippy> Well my Language is swedish but
#899 [10:22] <Thoatt> It's ok :D
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#901 [10:24] <skippydippy> Did u see ? ;)
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#903 [10:24] <Essentials2258> hey guys
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#905 [10:25] <Essentials2258> could anyone get on my 1.3 serverto see if i have a good loot canal system?
#906 [10:25] <Thoatt> JonathanS: I can in a few minutes
#907 [10:25] <JonathanS> ok
#908 [10:30] <Thoatt> k JonathanS
#909 [10:30] <Thoatt> I'll be in in a second
#910 [10:31] <Thoatt> outdated server.
#911 [10:31] <JonathanS> dang
#912 [10:32] <Thoatt> Why not just update it? lol
#913 [10:33] <JonathanS> because of my plugins
#914 [10:33] <JonathanS> just worldguard
#915 [10:33] <JonathanS> you know what
#916 [10:33] <JonathanS> im gonna update
#917 [10:34] <Thoatt> lol
#918 [10:34] <JonathanS> dang i cant
#919 [10:34] <JonathanS> link is down
#920 [10:34] <JonathanS> for bukkit 67
#921 [10:34] <JonathanS> *617
#922 [10:34] <Thoatt> =/
#923 [10:36] <JonathanS> do you ave a server?
#924 [10:36] <Thoatt> I do.
#925 [10:36] <JonathanS> maybe you could save your minecraft stuff and downgrade and come on my server
#926 [10:36] <JonathanS> and when ur done
#927 [10:36] <JonathanS> use the backup
#928 [10:36] <Thoatt> downgrade... psh..
#929 [10:37] <Thoatt> I'm not /that/ enthused about helping people lol
#930 [10:37] <JonathanS> oh lol
#931 [10:38] <Thoatt> alas! I think I will make a program to do that though...
#932 [10:38] <Thoatt> backup my data from mc every update, so if I ever wanted to downgrade to a specific version, i have the files...
#933 [10:38] <JonathanS> yep
#934 [10:38] <JonathanS> you could do it manually you know
#935 [10:39] <JonathanS> just copy ur minecaft folder
#936 [10:39] <Thoatt> ... I'm waaay too lazy...
#937 [10:39] <JonathanS> lol
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#942 [10:43] <SPaRT> hey guys
#943 [10:44] <SPaRT> how can i use op rights
#944 [10:44] <SPaRT> and, WHAT can i do with it?
#945 [10:44] <Thoatt> ?? op
#946 [10:44] <Thoatt> ?? ops
#947 [10:44] <Thoatt> ?? commands
#948 [10:44] <VoxelHead> commands: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#949 [10:44] <Thoatt> vox... useless..
#950 [10:44] <Thoatt> useless.. useles... useless...
#951 [10:45] <SPaRT> can i change the time like an admin can do?
#952 [10:45] <Thoatt> SPaRT:
#953 [10:45] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#954 [10:45] <Thoatt> and admin IS an op
#955 [10:45] <Thoatt> for all intents a purpose, an op in a mc server is the highest privledged person there is.
#956 [10:47] <SPaRT> thx Thoatt
#957 [10:48] <SPaRT> i use these commands in the chat?
#958 [10:48] <SPaRT> or how can i use them?
#959 [10:48] <Thoatt> start with /
#960 [10:48] <Thoatt> so like: /stop
#961 [10:48] <Thoatt> will stop the mc server
#962 [10:48] <Thoatt> (in-game
#963 [10:48] <Thoatt> _
#964 [10:48] <Thoatt> )
#965 [10:48] <Thoatt> **
#966 [10:51] <SPaRT> thx m8
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#969 [10:58] <Thoatt> np :D
#970 [10:58] <Thoatt> me is currently waterboarding someone in mc
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#972 [10:59] <SPaRT> what does it mean if i hear zombie noises in a mine and actually there is no zombie?! :-7
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#975 [11:06] <JonathanS> anyone have 1.3 server that is willing to see if i have a good loot system for my mob grinder?
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#977 [11:10] <Thoatt> SPaRT: It means there is another cave! dig towards the xombie sounds! It's a zombeh party! No clothes! It's a naked zombie party :D
#978 [11:11] <SPaRT> hehe, yeah though so
#979 [11:11] <SPaRT> but them sound 2 much for me :)
#980 [11:11] <SPaRT> and there's a lot of lava around me atm
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#982 [11:14] <JonathanS> could anyone help me make a spleef arena?
#983 [11:14] <JonathanS> 1.3
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#985 [11:15] <Max_King> Is it a mod?
#986 [11:15] <Max_King> oh wait, nvm, sry
#987 [11:17] <Max_King> My question is: if I have a map generated on 1.2, will it be able to generate blocks like lapis lazuli when creating new chunks for it? (I REALLY like that map, okay?)
#988 [11:17] <Szernex> Hm, anyone got any experience with running Minecraft on a SSD?
#989 [11:17] <Kade> I believe so Max_King
#990 [11:17] <Max_King> Thank you, Kade
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#995 [11:25] <JonathanS> anyone wanna help me make a spleef arena?
#996 [11:26] <JonathanS> my server is 1.3
#997 [11:27] <aetherian> isn
#998 [11:27] <aetherian> argh
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#1000 [11:27] <aetherian> isn't the latest 1.4?
#1001 [11:27] * aetherian chews slowly on some bread
#1001 [11:27] <JonathanS> yep
#1002 [11:28] <JonathanS> i havnt updated
#1003 [11:28] <JonathanS> cuse of my plguins
#1004 [11:29] <bread> :<
#1005 [11:29] <aetherian> nom
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#1009 [11:40] <Bryanh2> Hey can someone tell me how to downgrade to 1.3 on mac, I did it before but my client upgraded again and cant find the a link for the .jar anymore
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#1014 [11:43] <aetherian> Bryanh2: it's not legally possible
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#1016 [11:44] <sithrebel15> i have 89 weebly pro accounts for free pm me for details
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#1018 [11:45] <Bryanh2> do I have to wait for the server I use to update then??
#1019 [11:45] <aetherian> Bryanh2: yes.
#1020 [11:45] <aetherian> yes you do.
#1021 [11:45] <Bryanh2> Thanks
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#1024 [11:47] <notchz> i got weebly pro accounts for free
#1025 [11:47] <notchz> pm me for details
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#1027 [11:49] <aetherian> notchz: it's not realistic when you come on twice
#1028 [11:49] <aetherian> in different names
#1029 [11:49] * notchz free www.weebly.com pro accounts pm me for details
#1029 [11:49] <aetherian> why do all the ops have to be gone
#1030 [11:49] <aetherian> anyway
#1031 [11:50] <aetherian> notchz: no more talking about your supposed free wibbly wobbly woog or whatever accounts
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#1033 [11:50] <notchz> suck a cock
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#1035 [11:51] <aetherian> !kick notchz
#1036 [11:51] <aetherian> darn
#1037 [11:51] <notchz> lol
#1038 [11:51] <aetherian> dammit AuBot, why you no like me no more
#1039 [11:51] <notchz> !ban aetherian
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#1041 [11:52] <aetherian> psst, GreyVulpine, are you there?
#1042 [11:52] <notchz> !kick aetherian
#1043 [11:52] <aetherian> Iguana, even
#1044 [11:52] <aetherian> oh well, back to my games
#1045 [11:52] * notchz is your god
#1045 [11:53] * notchz boe to him
#1045 [11:53] * notchz lol
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#1046 [11:54] <aetherian> aaand that got rid of him
#1047 [11:55] <Jelikal> hello ... Has anyone found a fix for the Mojang screen crash? Please help I miss my world
#1048 [11:56] <aetherian> what happened to the ban on *notch*!*@* or whatever
#1049 [11:56] <aetherian> Jelikal: what's the problem
#1050 [11:57] <Jelikal> Just got the 1.4.01 update and now it only loads to the mojang screen then it shuts down .. just closes and i get the feeling it is sticking its tongue out at me too ... but thet may just be me
#1051 [11:57] <aetherian> any error generated?
#1052 [11:58] <Jelikal> I deleted the bin folder per a suggestion on forums and all graphics updates
#1053 [11:58] <Jelikal> no ... just goes away like the wind
#1054 [12:06] <Jelikal> is this a new problem?
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#1067 [12:41] <mohawk> Hey, im trying to start a server but i ran into some java problems, can i paste what it says in my gui here?
#1068 [12:41] <Thoatt> pastebin
#1069 [12:41] <mohawk> 2sec...
#1070 [12:41] <mohawk> http://pastebin.com/Uj0ViauZ
#1071 [12:42] <Thoatt> windows?
#1072 [12:42] <mohawk> windows 7
#1073 [12:42] <Thoatt> cmd->
#1074 [12:42] <Thoatt> netstat -obn
#1075 [12:42] <Thoatt> see what's using port 25565
#1076 [12:44] <mohawk> nothing uses it
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#1078 [12:44] <mohawk> well i can try another port
#1079 [12:45] <Thoatt> yep
#1080 [12:45] <mohawk> i have to open ports in my router?
#1081 [12:45] <Thoatt> to start the server, no.
#1082 [12:45] <Thoatt> to have it accessable from the outside, yes.
#1083 [12:45] <mohawk> still get the same message
#1084 [12:45] <mohawk> kk
#1085 [12:45] <mohawk> i tryed port 1337
#1086 [12:45] <Thoatt> o.O
#1087 [12:46] <Thoatt> nothing is using port 1337?
#1088 [12:46] <Thoatt> You've verified with netstat?
#1089 [12:46] <mohawk> nop
#1090 [12:46] <mohawk> ive checked
#1091 [12:46] <Thoatt> checked... with netstat?
#1092 [12:46] <mohawk> yes
#1093 [12:47] <Thoatt> Do you have the line 'ip=' set to anything in your config?
#1094 [12:47] <mohawk> no i got the ip set to my routers ip
#1095 [12:47] <Thoatt> take that off.
#1096 [12:47] <Thoatt> make it ip=
#1097 [12:47] <Thoatt> nothing
#1098 [12:47] <mohawk> okey
#1099 [12:47] <Thoatt> then try it
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#1101 [12:48] <mohawk> its works
#1102 [12:48] <mohawk> but i want it online : o
#1103 [12:48] <Thoatt> ip= has nothing to do with online lol
#1104 [12:48] <mohawk> ok
#1105 [12:48] <Thoatt> make the port back to 25565 and start it
#1106 [12:48] <mohawk> so i just set online mode=true
#1107 [12:48] <mohawk> kk
#1108 [12:49] <Thoatt> just foreward port 25565 on your router
#1109 [12:49] <Thoatt> that's it.
#1110 [12:49] <mohawk> kk
#1111 [12:49] <mohawk> but
#1112 [12:49] <mohawk> when people are going to connect me
#1113 [12:49] <mohawk> what ip?
#1114 [12:49] <mohawk> my routers?
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#1116 [12:49] <Thoatt> Your outside ip
#1117 [12:49] <mohawk> the one i find on
#1118 [12:49] <mohawk> whatismyip
#1119 [12:49] <mohawk> ?
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#1121 [12:49] <Thoatt> 123.9.189.109
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#1123 [12:49] <mohawk> kk
#1124 [12:50] <Thoatt> lemme know when you've forwarded the port
#1125 [12:50] <mohawk> ty for help
#1126 [12:50] <mohawk> kk
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#1128 [12:50] <mib_70kx8s> anybody here into beastility?
#1129 [12:50] <Thoatt> !kick mib_70kx8s
#1130 [12:50] * AuBot kicked mib_70kx8s from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by Thoatt with reason: None given.))
#1131 [12:51] <mohawk> k
#1132 [12:51] <Thoatt> !check 123.9.189.109
#1133 [12:51] <mohawk> ive forwarded it
#1134 [12:51] <Thoatt> did you save?
#1135 [12:52] <mohawk> !check 109.189.9.123
#1136 [12:52] <Thoatt> And, are you running it on the default port?
#1137 [12:52] <mohawk> Yes
#1138 [12:52] <mohawk> but when i chose online-mode=true
#1139 [12:52] <mohawk> the same error came
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#1141 [12:52] <Thoatt> online-mode=true means that the server will verify the name with minecraft.ne
#1142 [12:52] <Thoatt> net*
#1143 [12:53] <mohawk> oh
#1144 [12:53] <mohawk> so i should set it to false?
#1145 [12:53] <Thoatt> leave it to true :)
#1146 [12:53] <mohawk> Ok
#1147 [12:53] <Thoatt> try restarting the server.
#1148 [12:53] <mohawk> done.
#1149 [12:53] <mohawk> !check 109.189.9.123
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#1151 [12:54] <Thoatt> mohawk:
#1152 [12:54] <Nickman123101> Hello
#1153 [12:54] <Thoatt> it's
#1154 [12:54] <Thoatt> 123.9.189.109
#1155 [12:54] <mohawk> u sure?
#1156 [12:54] <Nickman123101> Hello could any one help me with a problem?
#1157 [12:54] <Thoatt> positive.
#1158 [12:54] <mohawk> !check 123.9.189.109
#1159 [12:54] <Thoatt> ??> Nickman123101 ask
#1160 [12:54] <VoxelHead> Nickman123101: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1161 [12:54] <VoxelHead> Nickman123101: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1162 [12:54] <Thoatt> mohawk: Are you sure you forwarded the port to the correct internal ip?
#1163 [12:55] <mohawk> Yes
#1164 [12:55] <mohawk> the ippv4 ip
#1165 [12:55] <mohawk> on my computer
#1166 [12:55] <Nickman123101> Okay Basicly on this minecraft server i go on i can't open any doors any chests or do anything i can't even place a block
#1167 [12:55] <Nickman123101> It isn't lagg
#1168 [12:55] <Thoatt> can you connect to your internal ip in mc?
#1169 [12:55] <Thoatt> Nickman123101: They have block protection on.
#1170 [12:55] <mohawk> sec Thoat..
#1171 [12:55] <Nickman123101> I can't even do any commands which i used to be able to do
#1172 [12:55] <Nickman123101> It's not that Thoatt
#1173 [12:56] <Thoatt> Does it happen on other servers?
#1174 [12:56] <Nickman123101> It all started when i kept spawning and falling through the map
#1175 [12:56] <Nickman123101> I haven't tried any other servers
#1176 [12:56] <mohawk> Yes i can thoatt
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#1178 [12:56] <mohawk> i can connect
#1179 [12:56] <Thoatt> mohawk: then the port isn't forwarded correctly :P
#1180 [12:56] <mohawk> Kk
#1181 [12:56] <Thoatt> Nickman123101: Try connecting to mine and trying it.
#1182 [12:56] <DeathSheep> Hey, does anyone know if you buy minecraft, can you buy it once adn it will work for windows and mac?
#1183 [12:56] <Thoatt> mc.thoatt.com
#1184 [12:56] <Thoatt> yes DeathSheep
#1185 [12:57] <Nickman123101> Two seconds Thoatt
#1186 [12:57] <Nickman123101> And ill be on
#1187 [12:57] <Thoatt> ok
#1188 [12:57] <DeathSheep> alrighty so buying once will buy it for windows and mac versions
#1189 [12:57] <DeathSheep> cool
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#1191 [12:57] <Nickman123101> Okay im on
#1192 [12:57] <Thoatt> Yes DeathSheep.
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#1194 [13:01] <mohawk> !check 123.9.189.109
#1195 [13:02] <mohawk> !check 109.189.9.123
#1196 [13:02] <Thoatt> brah lol
#1197 [13:02] <Thoatt> your ip is the first one..
#1198 [13:02] <mohawk> usure?
#1199 [13:02] <Thoatt> http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1200 [13:02] <mohawk> on whatsmyip
#1201 [13:02] <Thoatt> I'm 1000% positive.
#1202 [13:02] <mohawk> Your IP Address Is: 109.189.9.123
#1203 [13:02] <mohawk> :P
#1204 [13:03] <Thoatt> Inconsievable!
#1205 [13:03] <Thoatt> I doubt whois would mess up your ip that much...
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#1207 [13:04] <Thoatt> mohawk: Do you have teamviewer?
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#1209 [13:04] <mily260> helloo
#1210 [13:05] * Thoatt waves
#1210 [13:05] <mily260> I am having problems with server 2003 and minecraft
#1211 [13:05] <Thoatt> What is the problem.
#1212 [13:05] <mily260> It crashes the whole rig
#1213 [13:05] <Thoatt> o.O
#1214 [13:05] <Thoatt> Have you tried re-installing Java?
#1215 [13:05] <mily260> i have made the .bat file to increse ram
#1216 [13:06] <mily260> i did update
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#1218 [13:06] <Tiguespa> Hi
#1219 [13:06] <JonathanS> hi
#1220 [13:06] * Thoatt waves
#1220 [13:06] <Tiguespa> i need some help :(
#1221 [13:06] <Thoatt> ?? ask
#1222 [13:06] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1223 [13:06] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1224 [13:07] * JonathanS likes cheese
#1224 [13:07] * JonathanS likes pie
#1224 [13:07] * Thoatt likes... F*CKIN' FUN DIPS ALL UP IN THIS B*TCH!
#1224 [13:07] <Tiguespa> i tried to pay minecraft , but now it says :
#1225 [13:07] <Thoatt> Y U NO stay... ._.
#1226 [13:08] <Tiguespa> "Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments."
#1227 [13:08] <Tiguespa> so... hum... what ?
#1228 [13:09] <Thoatt> register your card to your paypal account.
#1229 [13:09] <Thoatt> then try purchasing with paypal.
#1230 [13:09] <Tiguespa> erf.. i must create a paypal account
#1231 [13:09] <mily260> if this helps there is no windoes error
#1232 [13:10] <Thoatt> To use a Visa Gift card, yes.
#1233 [13:10] <Thoatt> Or I think other visa cards as well.
#1234 [13:11] <Thoatt> mily260: check your system log to see what caused the crash
#1235 [13:11] <mily260> yeah there is nothing
#1236 [13:11] <Thoatt> Nothing in the event viewer?
#1237 [13:11] <mily260> othere than me restarting it
#1238 [13:12] <Tiguespa> thanks guys
#1239 [13:12] <Thoatt> Tiguespa: did you get it working?
#1240 [13:13] <Thoatt> mily260: 64-bit?
#1241 [13:13] <Tiguespa> i ask my friend , he'll give me his number credit card ...
#1242 [13:13] <mily260> Yeah it is 64bit
#1243 [13:13] <Thoatt> hmmm... do you have 64-bit java?
#1244 [13:13] <mily260> Hmmm
#1245 [13:14] <mily260> did not chek then just uninstalled it to reinstall it
#1246 [13:14] <Thoatt> ok
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#1248 [13:16] <Nickman> Thoatt are you there?
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#1250 [13:16] <Thoatt> yes.
#1251 [13:16] <Thoatt> check your messages.
#1252 [13:19] <Tiguespa> thanks guys, i have the game now :) Ciao
#1253 [13:19] <mily260> Btw what minecraft server files should i be using the .exe or the java one
#1254 [13:20] <Thoatt> either.
#1255 [13:20] <Thoatt> exe is easier to use
#1256 [13:21] <mily260> right ok thats all done
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#1258 [13:22] <mily260> well it did not crash this time :)
#1259 [13:22] <NotiCon> exe is only for windows
#1260 [13:22] <mily260> failed bad login
#1261 [13:23] <mily260> just added me to white list do i need to restart the server
#1262 [13:23] <Thoatt> yep
#1263 [13:23] <mily260> kk
#1264 [13:23] <Thoatt> NotiCon: mily260 is on windows.
#1265 [13:24] <NotiCon> didnt see
#1266 [13:25] <Thoatt> bleh...
#1267 [13:25] * Thoatt is tired.
#1267 [13:25] <Thoatt> I'm going to bed I think...
#1268 [13:25] <mily260> right ok got the same problem am i right in just putting the players username in the white list or do i have to put any thing else
#1269 [13:25] <mily260> Eg just mily260
#1270 [13:25] <Thoatt> whitelist add [name]
#1271 [13:25] <Thoatt> in the console
#1272 [13:26] <Thoatt> whitelist on
#1273 [13:26] <Thoatt> as well
#1274 [13:26] <Thoatt> if you want it enabled.
#1275 [13:26] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#1276 [13:26] <Thoatt> (list of smp server commands)
#1277 [13:26] <Thoatt> I'm going to sleep now...
#1278 [13:26] <Thoatt> Gnight everyone.
#1279 [13:26] <NotiCon> gn
#1280 [13:26] <g> Fack, I have to use mibbit
#1281 [13:26] <g> because I'm on the net when I'm not supposed to and parents recognise my IRC client :P
#1282 [13:27] <NotiCon> mm irccloud
#1283 [13:27] <g> hmm
#1284 [13:27] <g> did that say that in here?
#1285 [13:27] <NotiCon> the thing about parents and irc client? yes
#1286 [13:28] <g> The thing about the away
#1287 [13:28] <g> I mean
#1288 [13:28] <NotiCon> no idea
#1289 [13:28] <g> 'kay
#1290 [13:28] <NotiCon> only saw you changed nick and the stuff about mibbit and parents and irc client
#1291 [13:28] <mily260> ok so i was getting bad loging i decided to restart my client on my computer to login again
#1292 [13:28] <mily260> did not get bad login
#1293 [13:28] <mily260> server crashed
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#1295 [13:30] <Creepah> Hey guys
#1296 [13:31] <aetherian> hey
#1297 [13:31] * Loki775 [Loki775@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1298 [13:31] <Creepah> I need some help
#1299 [13:31] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1300 [13:31] <aetherian> then ask
#1301 [13:31] <aetherian> this is a help channel after all
#1302 [13:32] <Creepah> When i try to connect my own server i get Failed to login: bad login
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#1304 [13:32] <aetherian> have you restarted minecraft.jar/exe?
#1305 [13:32] <Creepah> Trying it now.
#1306 [13:32] <Loki775> Hello. If anyone can help me with an issue I am having I would really appreciate it. As soon as I move on from the login screen I get a black screen then a crash. Thank you!
#1307 [13:33] <aetherian> is there a error report?
#1308 [13:33] <Loki775> No there is not.
#1309 [13:33] <aetherian> an error report, even
#1310 [13:34] <aetherian> so when you say it crashes
#1311 [13:34] <aetherian> it blackscreens?
#1312 [13:34] <Loki775> blackscreen then closes
#1313 [13:34] <aetherian> it closes itself?
#1314 [13:34] <Loki775> yes.
#1315 [13:35] <Loki775> Ty for the help btw
#1316 [13:35] <Creepah> @loki, try to delete the whole file
#1317 [13:36] <Creepah> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=265128&sid=de7cb16af98b5184064be8c02fcded1d
#1318 [13:36] <Loki775> k sec
#1319 [13:37] <mohawk> Ah now this is embarressing... how do i open doors? XD
#1320 [13:37] <DreadLindwyrm> Click on them
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#1322 [13:37] <mohawk> ive tryed
#1323 [13:37] <mohawk> i just "hit" it
#1324 [13:37] <DreadLindwyrm> Unless they're metal - then you need a trigger of some sort
#1325 [13:38] <mohawk> ah
#1326 [13:38] <mohawk> i got a metal
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#1328 [13:38] <mohawk> how i make trigger?
#1329 [13:38] <DreadLindwyrm> Just a lever or pressure pad would do it if it's connected to the door
#1330 [13:38] <mohawk> hmm
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#1332 [13:39] <mohawk> like a stick
#1333 [13:39] <mohawk> ?
#1334 [13:39] <Guest46655> Ok so I deleted the entire minecraft folder and redownloaded the game. I get the same issue
#1335 [13:39] <Creepah> Crap it still doesn't work:S
#1336 [13:40] <NotiCon> the .minecraft folder? or the .minecraft/bin folder?
#1337 [13:40] <Loki776> .minecraft
#1338 [13:42] <mohawk> ah, i manged to create to wooden doors... now i cant destroy 1 of them.... xp i do i do that?
#1339 [13:42] <mohawk> how do i do that**
#1340 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Just destroy the block below the door
#1341 [13:43] <mohawk> Ok, ty
#1342 [13:43] <Loki776> If anyone knows how to fix a crash after login please help
#1343 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Loki775 - What crash?
#1344 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Loki775 - Could you pastebin.com the error?
#1345 [13:46] <Loki776> I do not get an error. I get a black screen then it closes it's self
#1346 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Loki775 - Have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder?
#1347 [13:47] <Loki776> Yes i have. I re-download the game and get the same issue. I have been playing the game since Alpha and have had no issues
#1348 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Okay, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling java? Tried updating your video drivers?
#1349 [13:48] <Loki776> Yes and yes :(
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#1352 [13:52] <mily260> ok so login worked now and i get a warning log carnt keep up did the system time change or is the system over loaded
#1353 [13:52] <mily260> then end of stream
#1354 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> mily260 - Do you get just a few of those? or is it flooding?
#1355 [13:53] <mily260> just one
#1356 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Then that's normal
#1357 [13:53] <mily260> btw this is mily from erley grey
#1358 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Loki775 - What operating system are you on?
#1359 [13:53] <mily260> normal it crashes my pc
#1360 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> mily260 - Do you know what brand of NIC the server is running on?
#1361 [13:55] <mily260> The nic is fine i do 110Mbs downloads from it
#1362 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Still, could you please tell me?
#1363 [13:55] <mily260> max out gigabit
#1364 [13:57] <mily260> realtek rtl8169
#1365 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not on my list of problem NICs for minecraft. Could you look into updating the NIC's drivers?
#1366 [13:58] <mily260> yeah alredy on it :P
#1367 [14:00] <Contex> I got a simliar problem mily, running Ubuntu 10.10
#1368 [14:00] <Contex> Server runs fine for 2 minutes, but after that, end of stream.
#1369 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to know what kind of NIC you're running, Contex
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#1371 [14:01] <Contex> I could check, let me see if I can find a command for it.
#1372 [14:01] <Aiero> Hi guys
#1373 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1374 [14:02] <Aiero> I have a little problem.
#1375 [14:02] <Aiero> Its to do with redstone *facepalm*
#1376 [14:02] <Aiero> I'm trying to make a lever activated door that covers some distance
#1377 [14:03] <Aiero> Its kind of like a secret base activation switch
#1378 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and the problem?
#1379 [14:03] <Aiero> But because of the current running out 15-16 redstone blocks
#1380 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> 15 blocks, yes..
#1381 [14:03] <Aiero> I can't figure out how to connect it up, without the door I'm trying to open/close to work.
#1382 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Use a repeater to increase the distance
#1383 [14:04] <Contex> GreyVulpine, is this it? http://pastebin.com/9Q2mzwnD
#1384 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no Contex.
#1385 [14:04] <Aiero> I'm rather nooby with redstone if you hadn't already realised, lol. Lemme have a go with your idea
#1386 [14:04] <Contex> Ok, hold on.
#1387 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> try lshw
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#1389 [14:05] <Contex> Unkown command, hold on let me google and see if I can find an alternative
#1390 [14:06] <Aiero> Ah, thanks GreyVulpine, it works now.
#1391 [14:07] <Contex> GreyVulpine, had to install it: http://pastebin.com/qvjmtr3K
#1392 [14:07] <Aiero> Now to cover it all up. :D
#1393 [14:07] <Contex> Doesn't have anything about network card in it though?
#1394 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't have anything in it with the network card.. hmm.
#1395 [14:08] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti or xales
#1395 [14:09] <Contex> Sorry for using up your time, but I've had the same problem for 2 weeks right now.
#1396 [14:09] <Contex> Appricate that you take your time.
#1397 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on Contex?
#1398 [14:10] <mohawk> Oh, is it anyway at all to remove water?
#1399 [14:10] <mohawk> is it possible to remove water?
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#1402 [14:11] <Contex> Ubuntu 10.10
#1403 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes, just place another block instead
#1404 [14:11] <mohawk> kty
#1405 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Or find the source block of water, and take it out with a buket
#1406 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> bucket*
#1407 [14:11] <Contex> http://pastebin.com/EiqQ7XFG
#1408 [14:12] <Contex> There's some info, if it helps..
#1409 [14:12] <rdll> xen?
#1410 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nothing in that about the network card
#1411 [14:13] <Contex> OpenVZ.... I moved from xen, cause it was cheaper
#1412 [14:13] <Contex> but seems like this is just meh.
#1413 [14:13] <Contex> http://pastebin.com/EiqQ7XFG is the java error.
#1414 [14:13] <rdll> ah. i've only used xen for minecraft servers. openvz is often oversold
#1415 [14:13] <Contex> Mine is at $15.
#1416 [14:14] <Contex> So, not complaning.
#1417 [14:14] <rdll> mine is no longer on a vps :V
#1418 [14:14] <Contex> Ah :-)
#1419 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Contex - how about "sudo lshw -short"?
#1420 [14:18] <Contex> returns bus, memory and precessor
#1421 [14:18] <Contex> nothing with network.
#1422 [14:18] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1422 [14:18] <Contex> mm
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#1424 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> little confused as to why it's not giving you that..
#1425 [14:22] <Contex> Maybe the host is trying to hide it?
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#1427 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Possibly. Usually the end of stream error has to do with the NIC on your system being overloaded, the recv buffer is being hammered by minecraft's netcode.
#1428 [14:25] <Contex> Alirght, thank you. Going to tell the host that.
#1429 [14:25] <Contex> Appricate you taking time to answer and apologize for using your time :-)
#1430 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> No worries, it's what we're here for.
#1431 [14:26] <Contex> Thanks :-)
#1432 [14:30] <g> http://i.imgur.com/6Tmwm.png
#1433 [14:30] <g> Win? Win.
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#1435 [14:30] <g> :P
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#1445 [14:49] <SPaRT> hey guys
#1446 [14:50] <SPaRT> i need help with my first railway
#1447 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#1448 [14:50] <SPaRT> *railway-system
#1449 [14:50] <SPaRT> want it powered but have no clue how to
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#1451 [14:51] <SPaRT> maybe somebody wants to help us? :)
#1452 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Define, "powered"
#1453 [14:51] <Kartographer> hey can anyone tell me what the block next to obsidian under iron in the terrain.png file is? I cant find a labeled 1.4 file to compare
#1454 [14:51] <SPaRT> i'm not sure what i can do with it tbh
#1455 [14:52] <SPaRT> can i only get down?
#1456 [14:52] <SPaRT> can i also get up?
#1457 [14:52] <SPaRT> can i bring up goods?
#1458 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> That all depends SPaRT.
#1459 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Kartographer - One sec
#1460 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that's an unused texture that jeb wanted to put in
#1461 [14:53] <SPaRT> well i've never build a railway system as we didn't have enough iron yet
#1462 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Kartographer - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mystery_Block
#1463 [14:54] <Kartographer> Thanks! been driving me nuts trying to figure it out lol
#1464 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - You can youtube up a bunch of minecraft minecart systems
#1465 [14:55] <SPaRT> ah good idea :)
#1466 [14:55] <SPaRT> thx
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#1472 [15:21] <SPaRT> hey
#1473 [15:21] <SPaRT> we just build a portal and it doesn't port us anywhere
#1474 [15:21] <SPaRT> why??
#1475 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> For SMP?
#1476 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> The portal for SMP hasn't been fully implemented yet.
#1477 [15:22] <SPaRT> what's smp`?
#1478 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> survival multiplayer
#1479 [15:22] <SPaRT> ah ok
#1480 [15:22] <SPaRT> works only in single player?
#1481 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1482 [15:22] <SPaRT> oh ok
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#1484 [15:29] <mily260> ok so looking at this abit more
#1485 [15:29] <mily260> it is crashing my network not my computer
#1486 [15:30] <mily260> plugged in a screen also i can actually get in to the server now then it kicks me out
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#1490 [15:38] <Derenoc> Hokay, so, right, my problem is multiplayer
#1491 [15:38] <Derenoc> Naturally
#1492 [15:38] <Derenoc> I cannot connect to my own server, and neither can anyone else
#1493 [15:39] <Derenoc> I use my external IP colon port number to connect
#1494 [15:39] <Derenoc> Why it no work?
#1495 [15:39] <aetherian> are you running it on the same computer as the client?
#1496 [15:39] <Derenoc> Yes
#1497 [15:39] <aetherian> if you are running server and game on the same client
#1498 [15:39] <aetherian> use 127.0.0.1 for the ip
#1499 [15:39] <Derenoc> Ah, that solves it for me at least, thank you
#1500 [15:39] <aetherian> (colon port number if port!=25565)
#1501 [15:40] <Derenoc> port=25565 so that should be no problem
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#1503 [15:40] <aetherian> and have you port forwarded?
#1504 [15:41] <Derenoc> That... I have not
#1505 [15:41] <aetherian> you need to do that for others to connect
#1506 [15:42] <Derenoc> That's a bastard, I hate my router ya see
#1507 [15:42] <Derenoc> Should get a new one really
#1508 [15:42] <aetherian> well, too bad.
#1509 [15:42] <Derenoc> Yeah
#1510 [15:42] <Derenoc> Thanks for the help anyhow
#1511 [15:42] <aetherian> all you need to do is set it to forward the port to you
#1512 [15:42] <aetherian> that's not difficult at all
#1513 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Derenoc - One of us can walk you through the process if needed
#1514 [15:44] <aetherian> oh right
#1515 [15:44] <Derenoc> Oh, I know how to do it
#1516 [15:45] <Derenoc> It's just tat my router's admin account is password-protected with a password that doesn't work
#1517 [15:45] <aetherian> then it's likely not the right password
#1518 [15:45] <Derenoc> ie if I reset the router it is not password protected, if I set a password for it, it won't let me in
#1519 [15:45] <Derenoc> Even if I give the right password
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#1521 [15:45] <aetherian> then don't set a password, portforward, then set a password
#1522 [15:46] <Derenoc> Right now someone else has hijacked my router, for example, which is highly annoying
#1523 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> That's not good
#1524 [15:46] <Derenoc> Hmm
#1525 [15:46] <Derenoc> Anyone know something REALLY evil I can do to someone on the same, unprotected, net?
#1526 [15:47] <aetherian> um
#1527 [15:47] <aetherian> how could someone hijack it
#1528 [15:47] <aetherian> if passswod don't work
#1529 [15:47] <aetherian> *passwords
#1530 [15:47] <Derenoc> I actually don't know
#1531 [15:47] <Derenoc> The wireless is still unprotected
#1532 [15:48] <TobiX> Derenoc: http://codebutler.com/firesheep?c=1
#1533 [15:50] <TobiX> aetherian: Maybe an exploit?
#1534 [15:50] <TobiX> Derenoc: What is the make and model of your router?
#1535 [15:50] <Derenoc> d-link
#1536 [15:50] <Derenoc> Lemme see
#1537 [15:51] <Derenoc> dir-655 is what it says
#1538 [15:52] <TobiX> Derenoc: http://www.sourcesec.com/2010/01/09/d-link-routers-one-hack-to-own-them-all/
#1539 [15:52] <TobiX> Exploit...
#1540 [15:53] <Derenoc> Yeah, I think I'm guying a new router
#1541 [15:53] <Derenoc> Like, tomorrow
#1542 [15:53] <Derenoc> Tired of this piece of shit
#1543 [15:53] <AG_Scott> Get an ASUS
#1544 [15:53] <AG_Scott> and flash it with DD-WRT or Tomato :P
#1545 [15:54] <AG_Scott> I bought mine on sale for $25 on newegg and it has the features of a $300 router and works perfectly.
#1546 [15:55] <Derenoc> Flashing is, I think, more effort than I am willing to put in
#1547 [15:55] <TobiX> Derenoc: Tries updating the firmware first?
#1548 [15:56] <Derenoc> On this one? it's updated
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#1550 [15:57] <struppthat> hello
#1551 [15:57] <struppthat> anyone fancy helping me with some mods??
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#1553 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide official support for mods here... but just ask.
#1554 [15:58] <TobiX> Derenoc: D-Link information policy is pretty horrible, as seen here: http://www.sourcesec.com/2010/01/18/which-routers-are-vulnerable-to-the-d-link-hnap-exploit/
#1555 [15:58] <struppthat> i installed the mods porperly and they are working
#1556 [15:58] <struppthat> apart from one fact
#1557 [15:58] <AG_Scott> isn't that what #risucraft is for?
#1558 [15:58] <struppthat> if i craft anything
#1559 [15:58] <struppthat> i cant get it out of the bench
#1560 [15:59] <struppthat> happened to 2 mods so far
#1561 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft people don't like people asking for help
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#1563 [16:01] <Derenoc> Thanks everyone, on your help regarding this unrelated amtter
#1564 [16:01] <Derenoc> *matter
#1565 [16:01] <Derenoc> It is muc happreciated
#1566 [16:01] <TobiX> Derenoc: The TP-Link TL-WR1043ND is a decent piece of hardware. Cheap, too. And if you don't like the software on it, you can install OpenWRT ;)
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#1570 [16:21] <Balthichou> Hi there !
#1571 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1572 [16:22] <Balthichou> I need some help in modding. It's the right place ?
#1573 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
#1574 [16:22] <Balthichou> Well
#1575 [16:22] <Balthichou> I'm working on my mod right now, Randomob
#1576 [16:22] <Balthichou> Java help.
#1577 [16:22] <Balthichou> But I found out something strange.
#1578 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you might need to try out #risucraft.
#1579 [16:23] <Balthichou> Oh, fine then.
#1580 [16:23] <Balthichou> I'll give a look.
#1581 [16:23] <Balthichou> Thanks a lot !
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#1585 [16:26] <olaplutonium> minecraft crashes when loading. does not work to play in-browser either
#1586 [16:26] <olaplutonium> tried to delete bin folder, no change
#1587 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Got an error report?
#1588 [16:27] <olaplutonium> leaves a crash-report, which i don't understand a thing of
#1589 [16:27] <olaplutonium> yes
#1590 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you please pastebin.com it?
#1591 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1592 [16:27] <olaplutonium> mkay
#1593 [16:28] <olaplutonium> here: http://pastebin.com/JMhF3HE7
#1594 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Problem is with your ATI video card drivers, update them.
#1595 [16:29] <olaplutonium> tried different drivers, non of them seems to fix it
#1596 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Which ones and where?
#1597 [16:30] <olaplutonium> got mobility radeon 5870, googled the drivers
#1598 [16:30] <olaplutonium> the ones from the amd website won't install
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#1600 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Why won't they?
#1601 [16:31] <olaplutonium> i dont know, i've seen more people have the same problem, but with no solution
#1602 [16:31] <olaplutonium> got version 8.683.0.0
#1603 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> olaplutonium - Can you tell me what brand/model of laptop it is?
#1604 [16:32] <olaplutonium> Asus G73JH
#1605 [16:32] <olaplutonium> with Ati mobility 5870, intel i5...
#1606 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#1607 [16:33] <olaplutonium> win7 64 bit
#1608 [16:33] <olaplutonium> home premium *
#1609 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Try the drivers from this page
#1610 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G73JH&p=3&s=252
#1611 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Select Win7 64-bit
#1612 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> You'll want the VGA drivers
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#1614 [16:34] <olaplutonium> i know, but thats the same version as the one i alredy have
#1615 [16:35] <olaplutonium> Version V8.683.0.0
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#1617 [16:35] <olaplutonium> try to reinstall them ?
#1618 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, yes.
#1619 [16:35] <olaplutonium> ok
#1620 [16:36] <olaplutonium> thanks for the help so far :D
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#1623 [16:38] <olaplutonium> installed the driver yesterday, but from another, unofficial website
#1624 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> With laptops, it's generally safer and more recommended to use the manufacturer's website
#1625 [16:40] <olaplutonium> yep, uninstalling and reinstalling now
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#1628 [16:43] <MediaTechVII> hey can someone help me with something?
#1629 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1630 [16:44] <MediaTechVII> minecraft will freeze when on far or normal render distances
#1631 [16:44] <MediaTechVII> well the screen will freeze, but i can still hear myseft walking around
#1632 [16:45] <DreadLindwyrm> Have you tried turning your graphic options down?
#1633 [16:45] <MediaTechVII> and i can also press the Esc button and wait fot it to save the map, then exit
#1634 [16:45] <MediaTechVII> how
#1635 [16:45] <MediaTechVII> i dont think so
#1636 [16:46] <DreadLindwyrm> In options there's an option for graphics. IIRC you can switch this anywhere from fancy downwards.
#1637 [16:46] <MediaTechVII> oh, in minecraft
#1638 [16:46] <MediaTechVII> yes, i have it on fast
#1639 [16:47] <MediaTechVII> i thought you meant outside of the game
#1640 [16:47] <DreadLindwyrm> Do you get the same problem when playing windowed and when playing full screen?
#1641 [16:47] <MediaTechVII> i have been messing around with a lot of things in the options, but i hate playing the game on short render distance
#1642 [16:47] <MediaTechVII> both
#1643 [16:47] <MediaTechVII> well..
#1644 [16:47] <MediaTechVII> now that i think about it
#1645 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> i havent tried it in full screen
#1646 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> but i know it happend in windowed
#1647 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any errors?
#1648 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> no
#1649 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> here is how it goes
#1650 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> if im in a game
#1651 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> online or off
#1652 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> and say i look left
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#1654 [16:48] <MediaTechVII> then look back right
#1655 [16:49] <MediaTechVII> well it will view both the left, where i just viewed and the right side, but it will flicker back and fourth
#1656 [16:49] <MediaTechVII> and i cant see me move, but i can hear me moving
#1657 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Video drivers perhaps?
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#1659 [16:50] <MediaTechVII> is there a way i can update them?
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#1661 [16:51] <olaplutonium2> i dunno why olaplutionum is still in the chat, i just rebooted
#1662 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1663 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Because the connection from the network hasn't timed out
#1664 [16:51] <DreadLindwyrm> You need to go to the manufacturer's site for your graphics card.
#1665 [16:51] <MediaTechVII> ok
#1666 [16:51] <MediaTechVII> i think its an ati
#1667 [16:52] <MediaTechVII> where would i check to be sure?
#1668 [16:52] <MediaTechVII> right click on computer right?
#1669 [16:52] <MediaTechVII> im running vista
#1670 [16:52] <olaplutonium2> run dxdiag
#1671 [16:52] <MediaTechVII> in run or command prompt?
#1672 [16:53] <olaplutonium2> run
#1673 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxidag
#1674 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1675 [16:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1676 [16:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1677 [16:54] <MediaTechVII> lol, my display drivers are from 2007
#1678 [16:54] <olaplutonium2> new/reinstalling drivers did not work, what now?
#1679 [16:55] <MediaTechVII> the reason is because i had to do a system reinstall
#1680 [16:55] <MediaTechVII> ok its done loading now what?
#1681 [16:55] <MediaTechVII> there is no save log
#1682 [16:55] <MediaTechVII> there is save all information though
#1683 [16:56] <MediaTechVII> ok its saved
#1684 [16:56] <MediaTechVII> now what?
#1685 [16:57] <MediaTechVII> oh ok
#1686 [16:57] <MediaTechVII> http://pastebin.com/6ixm935y
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#1688 [16:59] <MediaTechVII> now what do you want me to do?
#1689 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> I'd head to Toshiba's site, and look for VGA/graphics/video drivers for your Satellite L305D
#1690 [17:00] <MediaTechVII> does it seem like my computer should be able to run minecraft on full specs or not?
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#1693 [17:07] <mib_4x73lx> What happened in the new patch
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#1695 [17:07] <aetherian> I wish they didn't have to go ;_;
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#1803 [17:08] <aetherian> welcome back :D
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#1805 [17:08] <joshsavage91> wait, so i edit the world files offline?
#1806 [17:08] <joshsavage91> then reupload them?
#1807 [17:08] <joshsavage91> it wont cause like, a crash or something?
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#1809 [17:08] <aetherian> ...
#1810 [17:09] <MediaTechVII> yes
#1811 [17:09] <MediaTechVII> well, make sure you close minecraft completely
#1812 [17:09] <MediaTechVII> like exit it
#1813 [17:09] <MediaTechVII> or it could corrupt your save
#1814 [17:09] <MediaTechVII> but if its not open then you will be fine
#1815 [17:10] <joshsavage91> You realize this is an ONLINE server?
#1816 [17:10] <MediaTechVII> oh, no i did not
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#1818 [17:10] <joshsavage91> Does MCEdit work for online servers?
#1819 [17:10] <MediaTechVII> well did you make sure you had your settings set for modding?
#1820 [17:10] <MediaTechVII> i dont think so
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#1822 [17:10] <MediaTechVII> but you can check on the site i sent you
#1823 [17:10] <joshsavage91> What do you mean settings set for modding
#1824 [17:11] <aetherian> you need to take down the server to edit the map with mcedit, if I do so recall correctly
#1825 [17:11] <GV> ^
#1826 [17:11] <MediaTechVII> are you running the server
#1827 [17:11] <MediaTechVII> or is it someone elses
#1828 [17:11] <joshsavage91> I am.
#1829 [17:11] <joshsavage91> It's mine.
#1830 [17:12] <MediaTechVII> then just do what aetherian said
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#1847 [17:12] <joshsavage91> So if I take the world folder off the server and shut it down, then reupload it should be good?
#1848 [17:12] <MediaTechVII> take the server down and edit with mcedit
#1849 [17:12] <MediaTechVII> yes
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#1855 [17:33] <olaplutonium2> can anyone help me ?
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#1857 [17:33] <aetherian> we can't know until you ask, can we now
#1858 [17:34] <mib_uvchgv> What did the newest patch do
#1859 [17:34] <olaplutonium2> what patch?
#1860 [17:34] <mib_uvchgv> the newest
#1861 [17:34] <aetherian> facepalm
#1862 [17:34] <olaplutonium2> minecraft crashes, both in-browser and the .exe
#1863 [17:34] <aetherian> "which one?" "that one!"
#1864 [17:35] <olaplutonium2> just the same, crashes
#1865 [17:35] <olaplutonium2> wanna see the error-file?
#1866 [17:36] <olaplutonium2> http://pastebin.com/WpjPwWna
#1867 [17:37] <olaplutonium2> tried new video-drivers, but for no help
#1868 [17:37] <olaplutonium2> dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/tXGkLyUA
#1869 [17:38] <aetherian> try reinstalling minecraft
#1870 [17:38] <aetherian> delete the bin folder
#1871 [17:39] <aetherian> then run the launcher again
#1872 [17:39] <olaplutonium2> did'nt work
#1873 [17:39] <olaplutonium2> tried several times
#1874 [17:40] <olaplutonium2> does not work to play in-browser either...
#1875 [17:40] <aetherian> well
#1876 [17:40] <olaplutonium2> reinstalled latest java yesterday
#1877 [17:40] <aetherian> that's some error
#1878 [17:40] <olaplutonium2> yep.. :|
#1879 [17:40] <olaplutonium2> no-one seems to know whats wrong
#1880 [17:41] <olaplutonium2> i want to play mc, been a while..
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#1882 [17:43] <olaplutonium2> so none of you know`?
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#1884 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> olaplutonium2 - Video drivers didn't work?
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#1887 [17:47] <olaplutonium2> nope
#1888 [17:47] <Balthichou> Hi again
#1889 [17:47] <Balthichou> Could someone reindicate me the moder channel ?
#1890 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> olaplutonium2 - Were you able to install the drivers?
#1891 [17:47] <Balthichou> I lost its name accidentally -_-
#1892 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Balthichou - #risucraft
#1893 [17:48] <Balthichou> Thanks again x)
#1894 [17:48] <olaplutonium2> yes, were able to install, but the problem hasn't changed
#1895 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> olaplutonium2 - Just curious, are you running multi-monitors?
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#1897 [17:51] <olaplutonium2> nope
#1898 [17:51] <olaplutonium2> only the laptop on it's own
#1899 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> olaplutonium2 - Could you try uninstalling your video drivers altogether?
#1900 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Then reinstall it from scratch.
#1901 [17:54] <olaplutonium2> i did
#1902 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> You did?
#1903 [17:55] <olaplutonium2> first uninstalled, then installed
#1904 [17:55] <olaplutonium2> yep
#1905 [17:55] <olaplutonium2> removed CCC and all graphics drivers, then reinstalled all
#1906 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you reboot after removing it?
#1907 [17:58] <olaplutonium2> not in between, but after reinstalling
#1908 [17:59] <olaplutonium2> but i've rebooted completely before in between and the problem still occured
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#1911 [18:01] <ShootToKill> hi
#1912 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Try that one more time olaplutonium2. Remove the drivers completely, try it in safe mode
#1913 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Reboot, then reinstall the right drivers from the manufacturer's site afterwards
#1914 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm 99% sure this is a video driver problem, nothing's telling me otherwise.
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#1916 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> 'lo ShootToKill.
#1917 [18:03] <ShootToKill> Hi
#1918 [18:03] <ShootToKill> I have a question
#1919 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Ask away.
#1920 [18:03] <ShootToKill> How do you use IRC to chat with a certain Minecraft Server?
#1921 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> That's how the server is set up. It's only connected if the server is using a mod
#1922 [18:04] <ShootToKill> mod?
#1923 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> The vanilla minecraft server doesn't have IRC integration
#1924 [18:04] <Deathconsuming> bukkit+plugin+server = win
#1925 [18:04] <ShootToKill> Other people can chat with IRC to the server.
#1926 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Only mods can do that
#1927 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> modding
#1928 [18:04] <ShootToKill> Hm...
#1929 [18:04] <ShootToKill> How can I be a mod?
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#1931 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> no, no mod = admin
#1932 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> mod as in modification to the server
#1933 [18:04] <ShootToKill> oh..
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#1935 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> as in third-party code to enable that functionality
#1936 [18:05] <ShootToKill> So I can't use IRC to chat to the Minecraft Server I want to talk to?
#1937 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Not unless that minecraft server is modded
#1938 [18:05] <ShootToKill> it's modded.
#1939 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> With the right plugin
#1940 [18:05] <ShootToKill> Yup.
#1941 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to find out what IRC network, and what channel it's listening in
#1942 [18:06] <ShootToKill> Hmm okay thanks.
#1943 [18:06] <ShootToKill> What happens after I find that out?
#1944 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Then you can connect to that network, and use /join #channelname
#1945 [18:06] <ShootToKill> thanks
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#1951 [18:10] <werwew19> hey on a multiplayer server how do i set statuses like *werwew19 likes pie?
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#1953 [18:13] <Deathconsuming> type /me
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#1955 [18:27] <thedude> help?
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#1957 [18:27] <lprm> hi
#1958 [18:27] <lprm> can any1 help me ?
#1959 [18:27] <Phenex> I doubt I can, but what is your question?
#1960 [18:27] <thedude> anyone help me with server i updated it but now ppl time out in trying to connecy
#1961 [18:27] <lprm> I'm trying to connect to my server
#1962 [18:28] <lprm> and I get an error
#1963 [18:28] <lprm> "bad login"
#1964 [18:28] <Phenex> is your login info typed correctly?
#1965 [18:28] <lprm> (after entering my ip and click join)
#1966 [18:28] <lprm> yes
#1967 [18:29] <Phenex> Firewall?
#1968 [18:29] <lprm> what ?
#1969 [18:29] <Phenex> Do you have a firewall on
#1970 [18:29] <lprm> yep
#1971 [18:29] <Phenex> Is it allowing minecraft or java to connect with the internet?
#1972 [18:29] <lprm> i think it is :\
#1973 [18:30] <Phenex> Did you check?
#1974 [18:30] <lprm> at least
#1975 [18:30] <lprm> I played yesterday
#1976 [18:30] <lprm> but not on my server :x
#1977 [18:30] <Phenex> You are running a server on the computer?
#1978 [18:30] <lprm> yes
#1979 [18:30] <Phenex> and word for word, what is the error you're getting?
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#1981 [18:31] <Phenex> copy and paste it if you can
#1982 [18:31] <lprm> Connection lost failed to login: bad login
#1983 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> lprm - And you paid for minecraft?
#1984 [18:32] <Phenex> That was my next question :P
#1985 [18:32] <lprm> yep
#1986 [18:32] <Phenex> All I can think of is his router or firewall is preventing the game from connecting
#1987 [18:32] <lprm> oh wait
#1988 [18:32] <Phenex> if he paid, that is
#1989 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
#1990 [18:32] <lprm> i checked my router
#1991 [18:32] <lprm> not my firewall
#1992 [18:32] <lprm> will do that
#1993 [18:32] <Phenex> GreyVulpine will be able to help.
#1994 [18:33] <Phenex> I am kind of in the dark with this stuff
#1995 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> With bad login, it's usually because of the computer not being able to authenticate the..
#1996 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> server/
#1997 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> okay then.
#1998 [18:33] <MinatoArisato> For those having SMP Chunk loading issues/Severe lag and falling off unloaded edges while entities/players remain still/while single player works fine. Help promote this issue and get it noticed: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/1_3_smp_one_chunk_loads_falling_entities_are_still-12zqk3
#1999 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> This on your server?
#2000 [18:34] <Phenex> He left
#2001 [18:34] <Phenex> ??
#2002 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> lprm «Mibbit@a89-155-250-231.cpe.netcabo.pt» has Quit iRC (http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) «168 people»
#2003 [18:34] <Phenex> heh
#2004 [18:35] <Phenex> I am having trouble finding my video card driver on the nvidia site :S
#2005 [18:36] <Phenex> nvidia geforce 8600 gt
#2006 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> MinatoArisato - It's just a duplicate of this guy's bug, and several others..
#2007 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#2008 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> If it's on your server, try turning off monsters to test
#2009 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - ... it's just a desktop video card, right?
#2010 [18:38] <Phenex> How do you mean?
#2011 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> It's not a laptop, right?
#2012 [18:38] <Phenex> yes a desktop computer
#2013 [18:38] <Phenex> Yes sorr
#2014 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. then it's just.
#2015 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-266.58-whql-driver.html
#2016 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> I've got an 8800GTS.
#2017 [18:39] <Phenex> That's the driver?
#2018 [18:39] <oldtopman> I have a 9500GT
#2019 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2020 [18:40] <Phenex> okay thanks.
#2021 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> And the 9000 series are nothing but the 8000 chipsets with increased power requirements
#2022 [18:40] <Phenex> Hopefully this fixes my no sound issue
#2023 [18:41] * GreyVulpine has a certain hatred for the 9k series
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#2025 [18:45] <oldtopman> But the 9500 was $15
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#2027 [18:46] <Kartographer> hey all, so I am working on a texture pack, I have one last texture I cannot figure out, to the bottom left of the bed is a texture that looks like a white version of redstone wire blocks what is it for?
#2028 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Sec.
#2029 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> That's just redstone wire blocks
#2030 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> One for the intersection of redstone wire, and one for the straight line of redstone
#2031 [18:48] <Kartographer> but I thought thats what the two next to the ladder and the two next to the redstone torch are
#2032 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2033 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Iron doors are to the left of the ladder.. there's nothing to the right
#2034 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> The things below the redstone torches are the repeater blocks
#2035 [18:50] <Kartographer> hang on gonna take a look at the default again to make sure I am not crazy
#2036 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Repeater
#2037 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wire
#2038 [18:52] * Phenex greets g
#2038 [18:53] <Kartographer> AH, I see whats going on, in every custom pack I looked at to the right of the ladder and the right of the lit torch are the on/off versions of the redstone wire, they also appear in the only labeled version of the terrain.png I could find
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#2040 [18:53] * gPad2002 pokes Phenex
#2040 [18:53] <gPad2002> :P
#2041 [18:53] <Kartographer> I assume they are now lit proceedurally and that explains it
#2042 [18:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#2042 [18:54] <Phenex> gPad2002: I decided to buy a "new" computer
#2043 [18:54] <gPad2002> Orly?
#2044 [18:54] <gPad2002> Spect?
#2045 [18:54] <gPad2002> Specs*
#2046 [18:55] <Phenex> Yes. said screw it to all the pos I had
#2047 [18:55] <gPad2002> :P
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#2049 [18:55] <Phenex> Intel Dual-Core 3.0, 2 Nvidia GeForce8600 GT graphics cards, 500gb HDD
#2050 [18:56] <gPad2002> Not bad at all
#2051 [18:56] <Phenex> 250 buck
#2052 [18:56] <Phenex> Canadian.. lol
#2053 [18:56] <gPad2002> Desk?
#2054 [18:56] <Phenex> yes
#2055 [18:57] <gPad2002> Not bad at all
#2056 [18:57] <Phenex> windows 7 ultimate64 bit as well
#2057 [18:57] <gPad2002> Second hand?
#2058 [18:57] <Phenex> Unfortunetly.
#2059 [18:57] <gPad2002> That's expected :P
#2060 [18:57] <Phenex> He put a fresh copy on before I bought it
#2061 [18:57] <Phenex> Oh well, I still have it :P
#2062 [18:57] <Phenex> Pretty solid buy I'd say
#2063 [18:57] <gPad2002> Indeed
#2064 [18:58] <Phenex> I'm playing on 64x64 textures now :)
#2065 [18:58] <gPad2002> :P
#2066 [18:58] <Phenex> Hmm
#2067 [18:58] <Phenex> Although, Ive just updated my drivers
#2068 [18:58] <Phenex> and Im still getting no sound from the pc
#2069 [18:59] <gPad2002> Take the soundcard out and put it back in
#2070 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. you asked for video drivers before
#2071 [18:59] <Phenex> Its hmdi
#2072 [18:59] <Phenex> i thought they run through the same cord?>
#2073 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Why are you... updating video drivers for the sound...
#2074 [18:59] <Phenex> Clearly because I am a moron
#2075 [18:59] <Phenex> The drivers I was looking at said it updated HD sound as well
#2076 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Not from nvidia's site you didn't
#2077 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes, HDMI cables transmit both video and sound.
#2078 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> But the video card doesn't take or process any sound info, that's your sound card
#2079 [19:01] <Phenex> It just gets output through where I've plugged the cable in
#2080 [19:01] <Phenex> ?
#2081 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> It should, if everything's right...
#2082 [19:02] <Phenex> HD sound is enabled
#2083 [19:02] <Phenex> all the volumes are max
#2084 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Does it work in other applications?
#2085 [19:02] <Phenex> when I do a test I see the bar rise from making noise
#2086 [19:02] <Phenex> no
#2087 [19:03] <Phenex> the computer is connected to my tv
#2088 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> What do you have the HDMI cable hooked...
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#2090 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> ah
#2091 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Did you have the input set on the TV correctly?
#2092 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Is it getting HDMI input?
#2093 [19:03] <gPad2002> Disable the other sound outputs on your PC
#2094 [19:03] <Phenex> I'll double check, but I thought it was
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#2096 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, this is a software configuration issue, check your computer, make sure it's outputting right.
#2097 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Plug in speakers to your normal 3.5mm jack, make sure the sound card is working right
#2098 [19:04] <Phenex> the sound section in my control panel says output in HD and the others are not plugged in
#2099 [19:04] <Phenex> okay
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#2101 [19:04] <gPad2002> Phenex: You're holding it wrong.
#2102 [19:04] <gPad2002> :P
#2103 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Mrah, gotta run
#2104 [19:05] <Phenex> hmm?
#2105 [19:06] <Phenex> I dont have any speakers, just the tv
#2106 [19:08] <Phenex> and it doesn't work via 3.5mm either
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#2108 [19:11] <Phenex> anyone?
#2109 [19:14] <aetherian> what now
#2110 [19:16] <Phenex> you can help me wth my sound issue? lol
#2111 [19:16] <Phenex> Not getting sound via HMDI or 3.5MM from pc to tv
#2112 [19:17] <gPad2002> Phenex: You see that little black button at the top, and the one near the bottom of the screen? Hold them down for ten seconds and try again.
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#2114 [19:17] <gPad2002> Lol, Applw..
#2115 [19:17] <gPad2002> Apple*
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#2117 [19:17] <Phenex> little black button?
#2118 [19:18] <gPad2002> I'm messing around :P
#2119 [19:18] <Phenex> :P
#2120 [19:19] <gPad2002> Apple and their failsafes
#2121 [19:19] * gPad2002 shrugs
#2121 [19:19] <Phenex> but really
#2122 [19:19] <Phenex> could you help? :)
#2123 [19:19] <gPad2002> I honestly have no idea
#2124 [19:19] <Phenex> damn
#2125 [19:19] <gPad2002> Get sound card drivers
#2126 [19:19] <Phenex> is my sound card info listed in the dxdiag?
#2127 [19:19] <gPad2002> Doubtful
#2128 [19:19] <gPad2002> Try the device manager
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#2130 [19:21] <Phenex> its there but doesnt exactly give me a good name to search for
#2131 [19:21] <gPad2002> You should know what it is
#2132 [19:21] <gPad2002> Or be able to find out from the seller
#2133 [19:21] <Phenex> "High Definition Audio Device" is the name
#2134 [19:21] <gPad2002> Lol.
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#2136 [19:22] <Phenex> manu. Microsoft
#2137 [19:22] <gPad2002> You have a generic driver then, I guess
#2138 [19:22] <gPad2002> Yeah
#2139 [19:22] <gPad2002> What make of PC is it?
#2140 [19:23] <gPad2002> Like, brand
#2141 [19:23] <Phenex> asd
#2142 [19:23] <Phenex> f
#2143 [19:23] <gPad2002> :P
#2144 [19:23] <gPad2002> Asdf
#2145 [19:23] <gPad2002> Orly?
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#2147 [19:29] <thedude> can someone help me myfriends get a time out error when they try to connect to my servr ?
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#2150 [19:34] <Mac_Attack> hey
#2151 [19:35] <Mac_Attack> anyone know where i can get a 1.4 minecraft.jar my mods don't work witht he 1.4.01
#2152 [19:35] <xales> Nowhere
#2153 [19:36] <xales> it is not legal to distribute it, unless you have your own backup copy
#2154 [19:36] <Mac_Attack> for some reason it didn't save a backup copy
#2155 [19:36] <Mac_Attack> damn
#2156 [19:38] <xales> it doesn't save backups
#2157 [19:38] <xales> you have to
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#2159 [19:42] <Mac_Attack> its not there i checked the recyling bin and everything I have 1.3 and 1.3.01 but no 1.4
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#2165 [20:03] <frogmella> hello
#2166 [20:03] <frogmella> ok wtf
#2167 [20:03] <frogmella> sum 1 help me
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#2169 [20:04] <gPad2002> ?? Ask
#2170 [20:04] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2171 [20:04] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2172 [20:04] <JavaGuest695> Hello, folks!
#2173 [20:04] <gPad2002> Ohi
#2174 [20:05] <frogmella> ok well
#2175 [20:05] <frogmella> im trying to go to a minecraft server but the thing is is that when i go to it it just goes to free play
#2176 [20:06] <frogmella> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=75fce486187ea867f0c6ca386809d50d
#2177 [20:06] <gPad2002> Its down
#2178 [20:06] <frogmella> why
#2179 [20:06] <gPad2002> Or not set up properly
#2180 [20:06] <frogmella> i have played on it b 4
#2181 [20:06] <gPad2002> Ask the owner
#2182 [20:06] <frogmella> about 20 mins ago
#2183 [20:07] <frogmella> idk who the owner is
#2184 [20:07] <gPad2002> Then find out.
#2185 [20:07] <frogmella> howw
#2186 [20:07] <gPad2002> That's up to you really
#2187 [20:07] <JavaGuest695> I am having some serious issues regarding my VPN Hamachi server. Actually it's more of a minor problem... Everything works fine and for so far my computer is able to handle enough entries etc but the thing is that normal players can't build or destroy which forces me to OP them. However I am worried about them using /tp and /give as it is against the server's rules. They are also able to suddenly /stop the server or even IP-ban p
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#2189 [20:08] <gPad2002> Tell them, Uh
#2190 [20:08] <gPad2002> Not to build near the spawn
#2191 [20:08] <frogmella> well how idk the name of the server cause i just use the link
#2192 [20:08] <Sir_Fraction> So... The spawn is the only place where they're not able to actually build without OP-rights?
#2193 [20:09] <gPad2002> Their IP or Port probably changed
#2194 [20:09] <gPad2002> Sir_Fraction: Yeah
#2195 [20:09] <Sir_Fraction> Alright. Is there a way to set the spawn point?
#2196 [20:09] <frogmella> help meh plzz
#2197 [20:09] <gPad2002> frogmella: We can't.
#2198 [20:09] <gPad2002> Find the server
#2199 [20:10] <gPad2002> Use the new link
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#2201 [20:10] <gPad2002> Sir_Fraction: Not sure
#2202 [20:10] <Mario8236> What are you guys talking about?
#2203 [20:10] <gPad2002> Bukkit has setspawn
#2204 [20:10] <Mario8236> :?P
#2205 [20:10] <Mario8236> :P*
#2206 [20:10] <zack2o9> hey my server wont let nobody join not even me i checked my port forwarding and its right
#2207 [20:11] <Sir_Fraction> I know but as my friend and myself already put lots of work into my hamachi based server we don't want to switch over to bukkit
#2208 [20:11] <gPad2002> ~dict intruder 1
#2209 [20:11] <McPlusPlus> "intruder": someone who intrudes
#2210 [20:11] <frogmella> well what is the new link
#2211 [20:11] <gPad2002> @Mario
#2212 [20:11] <gPad2002> frogmella: Find I.
#2213 [20:11] <gPad2002> It*
#2214 [20:11] <frogmella> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=75fce486187ea867f0c6ca386809d50d this is the 1
#2215 [20:11] <frogmella> that i use
#2216 [20:11] <gPad2002> It probably changed
#2217 [20:11] <frogmella> how why
#2218 [20:11] <gPad2002> I just told you why
#2219 [20:12] <frogmella> how i know wiich one it is now
#2220 [20:12] <gPad2002> If you can't pay attention, don't ak.
#2221 [20:12] <gPad2002> As*
#2222 [20:12] <gPad2002> Blah
#2223 [20:12] <Mario8236> Here
#2224 [20:12] <frogmella> ok
#2225 [20:12] <Mario8236> ask*
#2226 [20:12] <gPad2002> I don't know
#2227 [20:12] <gPad2002> Find it.
#2228 [20:13] <Sir_Fraction> Does anybody here know if there is a way to set the spawn point in an Hamachi bases VPN server?
#2229 [20:13] <Sir_Fraction> Switching onto Bukkit is not an option whathowever.
#2230 [20:13] <gPad2002> Setspawn if the have the software setup
#2231 [20:14] <Sir_Fraction> I'll try then I guess.
#2232 [20:14] <Sir_Fraction> Thanks for the help gPad2002 ;D
#2233 [20:14] <Sir_Fraction> gOne2002* O_o
#2234 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sir_Fraction fubar/hamachi
#2235 [20:17] <VoxelHead> Sir_Fraction: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2236 [20:17] <VoxelHead> Sir_Fraction: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2237 [20:17] <AG_Scott> dumbbothaswentdumb
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#2239 [20:25] <maninblack> just logged into minecraft today,wasthere anupdate ofsomesort today?
#2240 [20:25] <maninblack> damn spacebar
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#2242 [20:25] <maninblack> i know of the update a few days ago, but what changed today
#2243 [20:26] <Unholygiant> So, I built this cobblestone house and every time i go to sleep I wake up with a zombie in my face.
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#2248 [20:38] <xorcon> does anyone no y i cant update?
#2249 [20:38] <xorcon> plz help
#2250 [20:39] <TobiX> xorcon: What is your problem?
#2251 [20:39] <xorcon> i try to update and it says roaming acsses ocurred i cant see it all
#2252 [20:41] <TobiX> Never heard of that error. Can you paste it into http://pastebin.com/ or upload a screenshot to http://uploadscreenshot.com/ ?
#2253 [20:42] <xorcon> ya
#2254 [20:43] <xorcon> said version also
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#2256 [20:44] <xorcon> i was just playing yesterday
#2257 [20:45] <oldtopmanserver> !paid xorcon
#2258 [20:45] <oldtopmanserver> !paid oldtopman
#2259 [20:46] <oldtopmanserver> xorcon: Do you have any mods?
#2260 [20:46] <xorcon> about to ask for refund..........yes i have my user name is link_262
#2261 [20:46] <Sir_Fraction> Halleluja!
#2262 [20:46] <oldtopmanserver> Are you using windows?
#2263 [20:46] <xorcon> yes
#2264 [20:46] <oldtopmanserver> ??> xorcon win/reinst
#2265 [20:46] <VoxelHead> xorcon: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2266 [20:46] <VoxelHead> xorcon: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2267 [20:47] <oldtopmanserver> You can save your worlds though
#2268 [20:47] <TobiX> Well, 1.4_01 was released yesterday/today, but it doesn't change anything of value (IMHO)
#2269 [20:47] <oldtopmanserver> If you delete everything except for the "worlds" or "saves" or whatever its called folder
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#2271 [20:47] <Sir_Fraction> For anybody that is having trouble with this, Your VPN MC Server spawn location is editable through MCedit!
#2272 [20:47] <oldtopmanserver> I can't figure out what it did?
#2273 [20:48] <Sir_Fraction> I'm going to call it a night, folks. See you next time :D
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#2275 [20:50] <mib_511l3t> Is anyone else having trouble with skins?
#2276 [20:50] <xales> No
#2277 [20:50] <luckz> sometimes.
#2278 [20:50] <xales> They work fine, but the uploader does not show it
#2279 [20:51] <xales> If you upload it on the site, nothing seems to happen. Check in the game
#2280 [20:54] <luckz> with that I mean that they somewhat randomly aren't visible ingame
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#2284 [21:04] <caserock> hello
#2285 [21:05] <caserock> i'm having trouble crafting a powered minecart!
#2286 [21:12] <xales> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecart
#2287 [21:12] <caserock> thanks, i read that article, but when i try to craft it, nothing happens
#2288 [21:13] <xales> What version does it say in the top left hand corner?
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#2290 [21:16] <caserock> 1.4_01
#2291 [21:18] <xales> and you are putting a furnace above a minecart?
#2292 [21:18] <Deathconsuming> Why was there an update?
#2293 [21:19] <bokaholic> To get rid of the April Fools Day thing.
#2294 [21:20] <Deathconsuming> Ahh
#2295 [21:20] <bokaholic> I have my server up. it runs amazing and everyone plays on it great. But one person gets on for a minute and 'connection lost' and she gets booted. Is that a router thing on her end?
#2296 [21:20] <bokaholic> Because her singleplayer works flawlessly.
#2297 [21:20] <caserock> yeah furnace above minecart both @ crafting table and inventory just does nothing.
#2298 [21:20] <bokaholic> It's just multiplayer that is poopy.
#2299 [21:21] <caserock> it seems like it would be on her end, boka.
#2300 [21:21] <caserock> if everyone else is not having any problems
#2301 [21:21] <bokaholic> I wonder what it could beeeee.. Hmmm..
#2302 [21:22] <caserock> could be a firewall thing.
#2303 [21:22] <bokaholic> She runs cable. But I see her character like.. Glitching out all over the place.
#2304 [21:22] <AG_Scott> bokaholic, could be a routing issue
#2305 [21:22] <bokaholic> So open the 25565 port for her perhaps?
#2306 [21:23] <caserock> couldn't hurt
#2307 [21:23] <bokaholic> I'll give it a go.. :)
#2308 [21:23] <caserock> maybe do that DMZ business. i'm no expert.
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#2311 [21:26] <TheGreysonAtor> Hello
#2312 [21:26] <Phenex> My motherboards website doesn't offer drivers for windows 7 (for my integrated sound) Is all I can do wait for an update?
#2313 [21:26] <AG_Scott> bokaholic, that won't help.
#2314 [21:27] <xales> Phenex: If there aren't drivers for it now, there likely never will be
#2315 [21:27] <AG_Scott> It's more than likely an issue between you and her.
#2316 [21:27] <xales> caserock: did you put it exactly like in the pictures?
#2317 [21:27] <xales> and are you using any game mods?
#2318 [21:27] <Phenex> I see. My sound isnt working :/
#2319 [21:27] <xales> Phenex: no driver, no sound
#2320 [21:27] <Phenex> ...bummer
#2321 [21:28] <TheGreysonAtor> I need some help setting up a multiplayer server
#2322 [21:28] <Phenex> Nothhing I can do?
#2323 [21:28] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: what, specifically?
#2324 [21:28] <TheGreysonAtor> How do i find it
#2325 [21:28] <xales> Phenex: use an OS that has a driver that supports your sound card
#2326 [21:28] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: what do you mean, "find it"?
#2327 [21:28] <TheGreysonAtor> I have the server progam running
#2328 [21:28] <Phenex> damn
#2329 [21:29] <Deathconsuming> So the bukkit irc is pointless for plugins...
#2330 [21:29] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: are you trying to run a Classic server, or Beta server?
#2331 [21:29] * Deathconsuming rages.
#2331 [21:29] <Deathconsuming> xD
#2332 [21:29] <xales> Deathconsuming: we can't help any more than they can
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#2334 [21:29] <caserock> yes, i'm arranging materials just like in the pics.
#2335 [21:29] <Deathconsuming> Yeah I know, anyway whats up guys :D
#2336 [21:29] <TheGreysonAtor> Sorry I just started playing yesterday i have the older version
#2337 [21:29] <caserock> no mods, but i am on my friend's server. might be on his end.
#2338 [21:30] <Phenex> my sound card does have a driver
#2339 [21:30] <Phenex> just not an updated one
#2340 [21:30] <xales> again, then technically, it doesn't
#2341 [21:30] <Phenex> Even if device manager says its working properly?
#2342 [21:32] <Phenex> ?
#2343 [21:34] <TheGreysonAtor> Hello?
#2344 [21:34] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: err, older version?
#2345 [21:34] <Phenex> I'm not gettingg sound out of my pc in general to my tv
#2346 [21:35] <xales> do you mean Classic, (the free on that you play in the browser)
#2347 [21:35] <xales> Phenex: no driver, no sound
#2348 [21:35] <TheGreysonAtor> yes thats the one
#2349 [21:35] <Phenex> Even if device manager says its working properly?
#2350 [21:35] <TheGreysonAtor> like i said i just started yesterday
#2351 [21:35] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: run the server, make sure you set it up correctly (server.properties) and port forwarded, then look on the server list on minecraft.net for it
#2352 [21:36] <TheGreysonAtor> how do iset it up?with the server software?
#2353 [21:36] <Phenex> The version of driver I have is more recent than the one on my motherboards website...
#2354 [21:38] <xales> TheGreysonAtor: edit server.properties, for an explanation, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties#Classic_Keys
#2355 [21:38] <xales> Phenex: no driver, no sound
#2356 [21:40] <Phenex> but I do have a driver
#2357 [21:40] <TheGreysonAtor> The file doesnt let me open it; windows cannot open the file; is there another program i need to open it
#2358 [21:41] <TheGreysonAtor> never mind
#2359 [21:41] <TheGreysonAtor> I got it
#2360 [21:41] <xales> Phenex: probably a generic one, yes
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#2362 [21:42] <TheGreysonAtor> Thanks it worked bye
#2363 [21:42] <Phenex> I'm only questioning you because when I bought the computer. It was plugged into speakers and it played the shutdown melody through the speakers
#2364 [21:42] <schnozzle> Trying to host a private server from my computer and when I try to open "start server" it says " 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.' "
#2365 [21:42] <schnozzle> ANy idea?
#2366 [21:43] <xales> schnozzle: Just use the EXE
#2367 [21:44] <schnozzle> When I try to launch the exe it basically tells me it failed to launch
#2368 [21:44] <Phenex> It's made noise through speakers before
#2369 [21:44] <bokaholic> It's very hard to walk people through shit over the Internet.
#2370 [21:44] <bokaholic> Props to you guys who help people here all day.
#2371 [21:44] <xales> schnozzle: what, exactly does it say?
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#2373 [21:45] <schnozzle> "Failed to load Main-class manifest attribute from C:\Users\?\Desktop\MC Server\minecraft-server.jar
#2374 [21:46] <xales> just use the EXE
#2375 [21:47] <schnozzle> IT wont work
#2376 [21:47] <schnozzle> THats what it says when I try to launch the exe
#2377 [21:47] <TheNytangel> schnozzle, did you write the .bat file?
#2378 [21:47] <caserock> oh i had this problem once before, schnozzle.
#2379 [21:47] <xales> schnozzle: that's not an error that the EXE can give
#2380 [21:47] <xales> anyway, the problem is with your username
#2381 [21:47] <caserock> i had to completely delete all minecraft things including the .jar ect. and reinstall.
#2382 [21:47] <xales> it has a weird character in it
#2383 [21:48] <caserock> worked fine after taht
#2384 [21:48] <xales> (the username for your computer)
#2385 [21:48] <caserock> backup your save files, though
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#2390 [21:52] <Marth> hey i need some help with serves for multiplayer
#2391 [21:53] <Marth> anyone?
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#2394 [21:54] <mr_pants> hey
#2395 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> What kind of server help do you need?
#2396 [21:54] <mr_pants> can someone help me?
#2397 [21:54] <mr_pants> ok
#2398 [21:54] <mr_pants> well i made a server and my buddy cant get on it is it me or him?
#2399 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's you
#2400 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward?
#2401 [21:55] <mr_pants> ok yea im sure i did it right
#2402 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you set up your security software/firewall(s) to let in the connections?
#2403 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> How is he connecting to you?
#2404 [21:56] <mr_pants> from his dorm a couple cities over on the skool internet
#2405 [21:56] <mr_pants> he made one there and everyone can log into his but me
#2406 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> With what IP is he connecting to you?
#2407 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> And where are you hosting it from?
#2408 [21:57] <mr_pants> im hosting from my house, he is using the school's internet and w.e the ip is for him there
#2409 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what IP is he using in the multiplayer box?
#2410 [21:58] <mr_pants> mine
#2411 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> What. IP. Is. He. Using?
#2412 [21:58] <mr_pants> you mean like 108.69.67.232:25565?
#2413 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2414 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Is that what he's putting in?
#2415 [21:59] <mr_pants> ya
#2416 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Then it's something on your end. Walk me through your port forwarding
#2417 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> What was your first step?
#2418 [21:59] <mr_pants> login and go to firewall
#2419 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> login to?
#2420 [22:00] <mr_pants> my box has a main password to gain access to the firewall
#2421 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Okay, your router? Your modem?
#2422 [22:00] <mr_pants> ya router
#2423 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Alright, continue.
#2424 [22:01] <mr_pants> i click Applications, pinholes, DMZ link and it shows all the computers connected to it
#2425 [22:02] <mr_pants> I click mine and made the application "minecraft" port to and from 25565 time out at 8400 and leave the rest blank
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#2427 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you screenshot that page?
#2428 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Upload it at imgur.com, and let me see it?
#2429 [22:03] <mr_pants> sure
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#2431 [22:06] <bokaholic> Didn't open port like suggested. but now she's getting: Connection lost: internal exception:java.socketexception:connection reset by peer: socket write error
#2432 [22:07] <mr_pants> http://i.imgur.com/BBNWF.png
#2433 [22:07] <mr_pants> there it is
#2434 [22:07] <xales> bokaholic: Are they able to connect to other servers?
#2435 [22:07] <bokaholic> Hmm, I dunno. Let me check.
#2436 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> mr_pants - And which one did you select?
#2437 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Which computer?
#2438 [22:08] <mr_pants> Martin
#2439 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> 1.64?
#2440 [22:08] <xales> GreyVulpine: the checkboxes at the bottom are incorrect
#2441 [22:09] <mr_pants> it just says Martin-PC
#2442 [22:09] <xales> (if you missed that)
#2443 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> mr_pants - I assume you're on windows?
#2444 [22:09] <mr_pants> ya
#2445 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> xales - Sorry?
#2446 [22:09] <xales> GreyVulpine: look at the bottom of the image, at the radiobuttons
#2447 [22:09] <xales> the top one is selected, it should be the other one
#2448 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2449 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> I don't have the full pic... so..
#2450 [22:10] <mr_pants> i do i select the second one
#2451 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> mr_pants - Could you go to your command prompt in windows, and do ipconfig?
#2452 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's the right IP?
#2453 [22:11] <mr_pants> ok im uploading the second part
#2454 [22:11] <mr_pants> http://i.imgur.com/xYfJF.png
#2455 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> mr_pants - ipconfig ip address?
#2456 [22:11] <mr_pants> which ip you want from ipconfig?
#2457 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Your computer's ip
#2458 [22:12] <mr_pants> the IPv4?
#2459 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2461 [22:12] <mr_pants> ok that is 192.168.1.70
#2462 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and from the first screenshot, I see: "You have chosen: 192.168.1.64"
#2463 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Those two don't match up
#2464 [22:13] <mr_pants> ok
#2465 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Either you're running the server on a different computer, or your router doesn't have your IP correct
#2466 [22:14] <mr_pants> hmmm ok how do i fix that should i use the DMZplus mode?
#2467 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> No. use your 192.168.1.70 address
#2468 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Put it in the box in step 1, where it says: Enter IP address
#2469 [22:16] <mr_pants> ok
#2470 [22:16] <mr_pants> then add minecraft?
#2471 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Then do the port forwarding like you did before
#2472 [22:16] <mr_pants> ok
#2473 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Remove any previous port forwarding you did with minecraft before
#2474 [22:17] <mr_pants> ok
#2475 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's only doing port 25565-25565/TCP to your 1.70 address
#2476 [22:17] <mr_pants> gotcha
#2477 [22:18] <mr_pants> ok now it should work??
#2478 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Is the server running now?
#2479 [22:19] <Thoatt> How is everyone this eveneng?
#2480 [22:19] <Thoatt> evening*
#2481 [22:20] * GreyVulpine stabs Thoatt.
#2481 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Now I am
#2482 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> good*
#2483 [22:20] <Thoatt> I see everything is normal lol
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#2487 [22:36] <Phenex> When playing on a friends server, while mining stone blocks are respawning after I break them. They give out the initial item, respawn in the same spot and don't give out another
#2488 [22:37] <Phenex> If I step into a space where I just broke a block, it will respawn on me and fill my entire screen with block until I break it again
#2489 [22:37] <xales> That's probably lag
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#2491 [22:37] <xales> either network lag, or your friend's computer isn't fast enough
#2492 [22:37] <Phenex> He has a quadcore - 3.2, maybe more its overclocked
#2493 [22:38] <Phenex> with 6 gb ram
#2494 [22:38] <Thoatt> lag it is.
#2495 [22:38] <Phenex> We've been playing the server for weeks now and haven't had this issue until now
#2496 [22:38] <Thoatt> re. install.. everything...
#2497 [22:38] <Thoatt> lol
#2498 [22:38] <Phenex> hmph..
#2499 [22:39] <Thoatt> Phenex: do you get the lag on other servers?
#2500 [22:39] <Phenex> I havent tried any others
#2501 [22:40] <Thoatt> try mine
#2502 [22:40] <Phenex> This is the only multiplayer one I use
#2503 [22:40] <Thoatt> mc.thoatt.com
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#2508 [22:41] <enobscuratus> is anyone else having troubles with minecraft and jre-dev under archlinux
#2509 [22:42] <xales> I run it fine with 'jre'
#2510 [22:42] <xales> can you be more specific?
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#2512 [22:43] <enobscuratus> i run it fine with jre also, but i'm on an intel atom and java 1.7 is supposed to speed it up alot. I'm on 64bit.
#2513 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> You're on a netboot?
#2514 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> er, netbook?
#2515 [22:44] <enobscuratus> no a desktop with an intel atom
#2516 [22:44] <enobscuratus> anyway the error i get is:
#2517 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> please pastebin.com it
#2518 [22:45] <enobscuratus> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/justin/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: /home/justin/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#2519 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
#2520 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
#2521 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
#2522 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Unknown Source)
#2523 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at org.lwjgl.Sys.loadLibrary(Sys.java:81)
#2524 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Don't flood the chat
#2525 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at org.lwjgl.Sys.<clinit>(Sys.java:98)
#2526 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:132)
#2527 [22:45] <enobscuratus> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:219)
#2528 [22:45] * GreyVulpine kicked enobscuratus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Don't flood.)
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#2531 [22:45] <Phenex> Blocks are respawning in ALL servers I join...
#2532 [22:46] <Phenex> I turned off my HD texture pack after installing 14.01
#2533 [22:46] <xales> Phenex: http://speedtest.net/ run it, post result link
#2534 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Please, if it's a GIANT error log, don't paste it here
#2535 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
#2536 [22:46] <enobscuratus> http://pastebin.com/hR6rHxAu sorry it didn't copy the url
#2537 [22:46] <enobscuratus> ctrl-v fail mybad
#2538 [22:46] <Thoatt> You have the wrong bit type for your system.
#2539 [22:46] <Thoatt> ELFCLASS32 is a 32/64-bit mismatch error
#2540 [22:46] <enobscuratus> yeah i've tried renaming the files in .minecraft/native
#2541 [22:47] <enobscuratus> which didn't work
#2542 [22:47] <enobscuratus> also i've tried setting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /opt/java/lib/amd64
#2543 [22:47] <Phenex> ping is 20ms, download speed is 4.0 mbps
#2544 [22:48] <xales> ??> Phenex win/reinst
#2545 [22:48] <Phenex> still connecting for upload speed ;/
#2546 [22:48] <VoxelHead> Phenex: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2547 [22:48] <VoxelHead> Phenex: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2548 [22:48] <Phenex> ahh fresh reinstall
#2549 [22:48] <Thoatt> enobscuratus: You have 64-bit java? or 32?
#2550 [22:48] <Phenex> I wont lose my stuff on multiplayer maps?
#2551 [22:48] <enobscuratus> i installed jre-dev from the aur
#2552 [22:48] <xales> Phenex: you won't lose anything doing that
#2553 [22:48] <Thoatt> Phenex: those are stored on the server
#2554 [22:48] <enobscuratus> hang on
#2555 [22:49] <Phenex> Okay thanks.
#2556 [22:49] <xales> enobscuratus: if it's not a 64-bit package, and you are on a 64-bit system, it won't work
#2557 [22:49] <enobscuratus> it is 64 bit
#2558 [22:49] <enobscuratus> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-ea-b136)
#2559 [22:49] <enobscuratus> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b06, mixed mode)
#2560 [22:50] <enobscuratus> let me check the PKGBUILD to make sure
#2561 [22:50] <Phenex> Throatt, is your test serverup still?
#2562 [22:50] <Thoatt> now it is.
#2563 [22:50] <enobscuratus> yeah 64bit for sure
#2564 [22:50] <Phenex> sorry for the misspell again
#2565 [22:51] <xales> enobscuratus: have you tried deleting what's in the bin folder?
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#2567 [22:51] <enobscuratus> i've deleted .minecraft and redownloaded through the client multiple times
#2568 [22:51] <enobscuratus> yep
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#2570 [22:52] <enobscuratus> and i've tried getting newer liblwjgl files from their nightly zips
#2571 [22:52] <enobscuratus> instead of using the minecraft supplied ones
#2572 [22:52] <xales> try also installing a 32-bit Java, maybe?
#2573 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> enobscuratus - Wait, how are you installing the newer lwjgl files?
#2574 [22:53] <enobscuratus> copying them into .minecraft/bin/native
#2575 [22:53] <enobscuratus> or whatever
#2576 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the right ones? Replacing both the /bin/ and /bin/native/ files?
#2577 [22:53] <enobscuratus> ya
#2578 [22:54] <enobscuratus> well i'm just replacing the libs
#2579 [22:54] <enobscuratus> actually
#2580 [22:54] <enobscuratus> do i need to replace the lwjgl.jar
#2581 [22:54] <enobscuratus> and lwjgl_util
#2582 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> You really need to make sure to replace every lwjgl file in /bin/ and /bin/natives/ files that match up to the /jar/ and /native/ folder of the nightly build
#2583 [22:55] <enobscuratus> ok lemme try that
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#2585 [22:58] <enobscuratus> yeah same error
#2586 [22:59] * GreyVulpine wonders if 1.7 of java is compatible with minecraft
#2586 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> A few months back, it wasn't
#2587 [22:59] <enobscuratus> i also tried changing it to liblwjgl64.so
#2588 [22:59] <Phenex> Xales: No luck, still the same issue but not as much
#2589 [22:59] <enobscuratus> people have gotten it to work
#2590 [22:59] <xales> enobscuratus: does it work with 1.6?
#2591 [22:59] <enobscuratus> yeah but slowly
#2592 [22:59] <enobscuratus> i'm on intel atom
#2593 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> xales - I'm pretty sure it's a java problem, and a few months back, 1.7 didn't work with minecraft
#2594 [23:00] <enobscuratus> ok then
#2595 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if 1.7 works with arch/minecraft
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#2597 [23:00] <enobscuratus> i've found other people who had the same error and solved it with the solutions i tried
#2598 [23:01] <enobscuratus> but mostly on ubuntu's forums
#2599 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2600 [23:01] <enobscuratus> so yeah
#2601 [23:01] <enobscuratus> the jre build is from march 31
#2602 [23:02] <enobscuratus> probably differnet on ubuntu
#2603 [23:03] <Phenex> Xales: Same issue after reinstall
#2604 [23:03] <Phenex> any other ideas?
#2605 [23:03] <xales> Phenex: it's probably your Internet connection
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#2607 [23:04] <Phenex> Hmm not showing any signs that it's running slow in my taskbar
#2608 [23:04] <xales> It..wouldn't?
#2609 [23:04] <Phenex> well I don't know that
#2610 [23:04] <Phenex> its wireless I should say
#2611 [23:04] <Phenex> thats what I meant by in the taskbar
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#2616 [23:13] <bokaholic> Is there an issue with Minecraft alla sudden? :I
#2617 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2618 [23:13] <bokaholic> 'Can't connect to minecraft.net' when we try to log in.
#2619 [23:13] <bokaholic> It was working moments ago :I
#2620 [23:13] <Thoatt> same
#2621 [23:13] <xolotl> bokaholic: Login server might be having issues; just happened to me too. "Wait And See," etc. :)
#2622 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Likewise
#2623 [23:13] <Thoatt> http://isminecraftdown.com
#2624 [23:14] <chesser45> can i get some help setting up a mc server
#2625 [23:14] <Thoatt> or something like that
#2626 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - What kind of help?
#2627 [23:14] <Thoatt> .net...
#2628 [23:14] <Thoatt> lol
#2629 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Thoatt - Website's up, and isn't connected to the login/auth server
#2630 [23:14] <chesser45> uhh for my friend setting up the ports
#2631 [23:14] <Thoatt> yeah I got that lol
#2632 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565/TCP to the internal IP
#2633 [23:15] <bokaholic> Hey Thoat. :V
#2634 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> If your friend has a question, it'd be better for him to hop on and ask
#2635 [23:15] <bokaholic> +t o.o;
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#2638 [23:15] <Thoatt> hey bokaholic :)
#2639 [23:15] <chesser45> lol and getting it to run with more than the min ram on 64bit win 7
#2640 [23:15] <Velrim> any body having problems with their MC client not being able to log into minecraft.net
#2641 [23:16] <chesser45> ( my friend is really a noob)
#2642 [23:16] <xolotl> Velrim: Yes, server issue, just wait. :)
#2643 [23:16] <chesser45> no connection problems with my hgs server
#2644 [23:16] <bokaholic> Yuk. got a photorealism texture pack that is totally fuckity with my poor minecraft.
#2645 [23:16] <Velrim> ok well that clears that problem up anyone here familiar with running a server via hamachi
#2646 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes, and it's a horrible idea.
#2647 [23:17] <Velrim> well atm its all i can do lol
#2648 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry.
#2649 [23:18] <Velrim> the problem is im getting time out errors from my buddies when they try to connect which i didnt have this problem before i had to reformat lastnight
#2650 [23:18] <chesser45> whats the code for running 1gb of ram in 64bit win7 ( wont accept the regular code)
#2651 [23:18] <chesser45> sorry with the startup bat
#2652 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2653 [23:19] <chesser45> k
#2654 [23:19] <chesser45> ill try it again
#2655 [23:21] <Velrim> does anyone have the slighest idea as to what might be going on
#2656 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2657 [23:21] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2658 [23:21] <Velrim> well my problem wasnt about that just to clerify my statement
#2659 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2660 [23:22] <Velrim> the minecraft auth problem
#2661 [23:22] <Velrim> i need to figure out how to make hamachi stop connecting me and this dude thru a relay server
#2662 [23:22] <Velrim> its not direct (I.E. the green connection dot)
#2663 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> We don't give out hamachi help here.
#2664 [23:23] <Thoatt> ??> Velrim foobar/hamachi
#2665 [23:23] <Thoatt> SCREW YOU VOX... lol
#2666 [23:23] <Thoatt> something like that
#2667 [23:23] <Thoatt> y u no ~match~
#2668 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2669 [23:23] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2670 [23:23] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2671 [23:24] <Velrim> well then ill take my problems else where since according to taht from voxel this channel will not help
#2672 [23:25] <Velrim> great help from the irc considering that was a basic go screw yourself msg
#2673 [23:27] <AG_Scott> lolol.
#2674 [23:29] <chesser45> rage??
#2675 [23:29] <chesser45> lol
#2676 [23:30] <Thoatt> ragequit lol
#2677 [23:30] <xales> derp
#2678 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Really no need to do that.. but meh
#2679 [23:33] <xales> Sometimes they come back and are like "I couldn't find help so fuck you guys"
#2680 [23:33] <xales> (I've seen that once or twice)
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