#MinecraftHelp > 2011-06-01
#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2 [00:00] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.203 seconds.
#3 [00:01] <xales> !pong
#4 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> !plonk
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#7 [00:12] <adambrooo> hai
#8 [00:12] <adambrooo> how do i downgrade to 1.5?
#9 [00:13] <oldtopmanserver> Use mcnostalgia
#10 [00:13] <adambrooo> i have it
#11 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Thought you didn't approve of it oldtop
#12 [00:13] <adambrooo> i just dont understand how to use it
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#15 [00:14] <oldtopmanserver> GreyVulpine: Yeah, I do now.
#16 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> What changed your mind?
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#18 [00:18] <oldtopmanserver> GreyVulpine: Someone who actually explained it (CyborgDragon) rather than saying "H ehasn't been sued yet"
#19 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#20 [00:20] <Coll> Grey
#21 [00:21] <Coll> is there any block that lava doesnt throw fire on?
#22 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#23 [00:21] <Coll> like when lava is near blocks a fire starts on it for some reason
#24 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Lava throw fire up to a block or two away, it'll catch any flammable objects near it on fire
#25 [00:22] <oldtopmanserver> No
#26 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure that's how it works..
#27 [00:24] <Coll> I never see fires on smooth stone though
#28 [00:24] <xales> Smooth stone is not flammable
#29 [00:24] <Coll> neither is dirt or half blocks
#30 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lava
#31 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> "However, TNT, bookcases, leaves, wool, fences, and wood logs, planks, and stairs are flammable. If flammable blocks are within about 2 meters of lava, they will catch fire. Non-flammable blocks, including glass, block this effect (but not the spreading of active fire). The “embers” or “fireballs” which fly out of lava are purely decorative and do not directly cause fires. "
#32 [00:25] <VoxelHead> do do do do do do do... do do do do do.... do doo do do do do do... do do do do do doooo
#33 [00:26] <oldtopmanserver> GreyVulpine: I have fire appearing in front of my "trash" (on a stone block)
#34 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
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#36 [00:27] <oldtopmanserver> Coll: I have seen it
#37 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you rephrase that?
#38 [00:27] <VoxelHead> mmm weirdo
#39 [00:27] <oldtopmanserver> sotty, was supposed to be to coll
#40 [00:30] <Coll> look
#41 [00:30] <VoxelHead> Loooooooooook.
#42 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#43 [00:30] <Coll> where there is lava right next to a block a fire starts on it then goes out shortly
#44 [00:30] * VoxelHead knows when it isn't wanted.
#44 [00:30] <Coll> yeah who the fuck keeps putting this annoying bot in here
#45 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> That was supposed to be fixed in 1.6
#46 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> was present as a bug in 1.5 and earlier
#47 [00:31] <Coll> apperently it wasnrt
#48 [00:31] <Coll> wasnt
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#52 [00:43] <mib_6tfs84> Hello?
#53 [00:43] <xales> Hi.
#54 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#55 [00:44] <Satchel_Adair> is this a place i can ask for help?
#56 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#57 [00:44] <Satchel_Adair> okay, i have two problems but they might be related
#58 [00:45] <Satchel_Adair> the first was related to one of the first 3 patches to 1.6
#59 [00:45] <Satchel_Adair> perhaps the 4th as well
#60 [00:45] <Satchel_Adair> I am having extreme lag issues and disconnectivity to a server that is updated and usually functions perfectly
#61 [00:46] <xales> Just the one, or all servers?
#62 [00:46] <Satchel_Adair> i have been using this server via hamachi for 6-8 months without a problem
#63 [00:46] <Satchel_Adair> I usually only play on this one. however i tried to connect to a public server yesterday and the same thing happened
#64 [00:47] <Satchel_Adair> first i appear to fall from the sky into the void for 30 seconds to 2minutes or more
#65 [00:47] <Satchel_Adair> then the game renders 50ish random blocks around me.
#66 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> You are running the latest 1.6.6 release of minecraft, correct?
#67 [00:47] <Satchel_Adair> and i am unable to interact with the game/map
#68 [00:48] <Satchel_Adair> that is actually my second problem
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#70 [00:48] <Satchel_Adair> the download refuses to download
#71 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> So far, it sounds like the normal problems that 1.6 had, up to 1.6.5
#72 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> 1.6.6 is supposedly better
#73 [00:48] <Satchel_Adair> it freezes at the beginning of the downloading packages
#74 [00:48] <Satchel_Adair> i really want to download it
#75 [00:49] <Satchel_Adair> i was hoping that 1.6.6 would fix my other problem
#76 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> have you done the "Force Update" option through the options menu of the launcher?
#77 [00:49] <Satchel_Adair> yes.
#78 [00:49] <Satchel_Adair> it freezes with that as well
#79 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> I see, um, have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder itself (saving the saves folder)?
#80 [00:50] <Satchel_Adair> i have indeed. at least 4 times
#81 [00:50] <Satchel_Adair> i've uninstalled and reinstalled java twice as well
#82 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Does the progress bar fill up at all?
#83 [00:51] <Satchel_Adair> about 4-5% everytime
#84 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you run any sort of security software or firewall on your computer?
#85 [00:51] <Satchel_Adair> it completes the first step. then proceeds to "downloading Packages" and freezes
#86 [00:51] <Satchel_Adair> i use norton security suite
#87 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if norton is blocking either java or minecraft from running?
#88 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> or connecting, rather
#89 [00:52] <Satchel_Adair> i am computer lingo savvy, but not really practice savvy
#90 [00:52] <Satchel_Adair> i don't really know how to check for that
#91 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Is there any way you can turn off norton's firewall/network security?
#92 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Just to test?
#93 [00:53] <Satchel_Adair> i could try. would that be under settings or something?
#94 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, norton isn't thought of too highly around here. I don't think anybody here has touched norton in years
#95 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> I haven't run norton since the late 90s
#96 [00:55] <Satchel_Adair> yeah it was free
#97 [00:55] <Satchel_Adair> whatever
#98 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> The problem that you're experiencing, is very similar to some sort of security software that's blocking java from communicating with the outside
#99 [00:55] <Satchel_Adair> in the firewall settings it has a list of programs
#100 [00:55] <Keltinray> Just a question - what is the deal witht he "Unlicensed Copy" text?
#101 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Keltinray - Don't know, was included in 1.6 as a feature
#102 [00:56] <Satchel_Adair> should i allow all java related programs?
#103 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> cropped up during the test builds of 1.6, when notch released it to us to test.
#104 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - It would be a good way to test, sure
#105 [00:56] <Satchel_Adair> none of these programs say minecraft though
#106 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> It usually won't
#107 [00:56] <Satchel_Adair> ah
#108 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs under java.
#109 [00:56] <Satchel_Adair> yes
#110 [00:57] <Satchel_Adair> um. there are a bunch about se binary
#111 [00:57] <Satchel_Adair> and updaters
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#114 [00:57] <Satchel_Adair> does this sounds adequate?
#115 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Could you just let in Java for now, and go ahead and test minecraft
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#117 [00:58] <Satchel_Adair> testing now
#118 [00:59] <Satchel_Adair> some people have said that it takes a couple of minutes sometimes
#119 [00:59] <Satchel_Adair> but for now it appears to be freezing in the same spot
#120 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#121 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you delete %appdata%/.minecraft again, remember to save your saves
#122 [01:01] <Satchel_Adair> all of the folder or just the bin?
#123 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> All the folder (except for saves)
#124 [01:02] <Satchel_Adair> i really only play smp. saves not an issue
#125 [01:02] <Satchel_Adair> deleted
#126 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft again.
#127 [01:02] <Satchel_Adair> testing
#128 [01:03] <Satchel_Adair> have you heard of this problem before?
#129 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> a few times, usually it's a firewall issue
#130 [01:03] <Satchel_Adair> Also, the DL froze again
#131 [01:03] <Satchel_Adair> mhm
#132 [01:04] <Satchel_Adair> could it be window's firewall?
#133 [01:04] <Satchel_Adair> or does norton override that?
#134 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> I believe norton integrates with that, doesn't it?
#135 [01:05] <Satchel_Adair> um. not sure. but i just checked and the window's firewall is turned off
#136 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Is there any way you can turn off the entire network monitoring portion of the norton suite?
#137 [01:05] <KriLL3> norton is about as subtle as a sledge hammer to your system
#138 [01:05] <KriLL3> just get MSE, better and it doesn't mess up your machine
#139 [01:05] <Satchel_Adair> what else should i use then?
#140 [01:05] <KriLL3> and free
#141 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> ms security essentials is pretty good..
#142 [01:06] <KriLL3> GreyVulpine: aka MSE
#143 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> that's what i was referring to
#144 [01:06] <Satchel_Adair> downloading and installing now
#145 [01:06] <KriLL3> uninstall norton first
#146 [01:06] <KriLL3> never a good idea to run 2 antivirus applications at the same time
#147 [01:07] <Satchel_Adair> won't this installer prompt me to do that along the way
#148 [01:07] <KriLL3> not sure
#149 [01:07] <VoxelHead> Not sure... nure.
#150 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#151 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> dang bot
#152 [01:07] <VoxelHead> Don't wanna|But since you asked so nicely.
#153 [01:08] <Satchel_Adair> the uninstall process will probably ask me to restart. if so i will be back shortly.
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#157 [01:10] <Satchel_Adair> i hope you guys get paid. you are providing a wonderful service
#158 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> We don't, we're all community volunteers here.
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#160 [01:16] <Satchel_Adair> hello?
#161 [01:16] <xales> Hi.
#162 [01:16] <Satchel_Adair> are you a helper or a helpee?
#163 [01:16] <xales> Helper, typically
#164 [01:17] <Satchel_Adair> okay. well i was just in here about 5 minutes ago and i was advised to uninstall my AV software
#165 [01:17] <Satchel_Adair> i did this and turned off windows firewall
#166 [01:18] <Satchel_Adair> however the game downlaod still freezes
#167 [01:18] <xales> ??> Satchel_Adair win/hosts
#168 [01:18] <VoxelHead> Satchel_Adair: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#169 [01:18] <VoxelHead> Satchel_Adair: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#170 [01:19] <Satchel_Adair> Sorry, but what is pastebin?
#171 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#172 [01:19] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#173 [01:19] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#174 [01:19] <Satchel_Adair> ah. okay. will be done asap
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#176 [01:23] <Satchel_Adair> http://pastebin.com/aw7Y5mq0
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#178 [01:24] <tommygoesha> does anyone know how i can make it that slimes dont spawn in a certain place or dont spawn at all?
#179 [01:25] <Satchel_Adair> unlight the area
#180 [01:25] <tommygoesha> ?
#181 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> _un_light?
#182 [01:25] <tommygoesha> meaning like torchs?
#183 [01:25] <Satchel_Adair> slimes need light and depth to spawn
#184 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> huh. "The More You Know™"
#185 [01:25] <tommygoesha> ik my castle is huge so i had to dig down.
#186 [01:25] <Satchel_Adair> if you have torches out take them down
#187 [01:26] <tommygoesha> thats not answering my question
#188 [01:26] <DopeGhoti> "Would you rather have slimes or creepers?"
#189 [01:26] <tommygoesha> creepers tbh.
#190 [01:26] <tommygoesha> cuz i have a town plugin that gets rid of mobs out of towns
#191 [01:26] <Satchel_Adair> it does answer your question. if you take away the light they will not spawn
#192 [01:26] <tommygoesha> but doesnt get rid of slimes
#193 [01:27] <tommygoesha> "does anyone know how i can make it that slimes dont spawn in a certain place"
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#195 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> oh, by 'get rid of' you mean 'eliminate from the server entirely'.
#196 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> run the server in Peaceful mode.
#197 [01:27] <tommygoesha> i dont want to get rid of all mobs just slimes
#198 [01:27] <Satchel_Adair> you'll probably need to find a mob mod for that, unfortunately
#199 [01:28] <tommygoesha> so nothing i can do with like config?
#200 [01:28] <Satchel_Adair> you must have an incredibly deep castle for slimes to spawn
#201 [01:29] <Satchel_Adair> i guess you could organize your rooms where they spawn so that there isn't enough space for them to spawn.
#202 [01:30] <Satchel_Adair> however that only eliminates the largest slimes
#203 [01:31] <Satchel_Adair> @dopeghoti were you here when Voxel asked me to use pastebin?
#204 [01:33] <tommygoesha> my castle i believe is around 18m blocks.
#205 [01:34] <Satchel_Adair> deep?
#206 [01:34] <VoxelHead> deeeeeeep?
#207 [01:34] <Satchel_Adair> i'm surprised slimes are spawning that close to the surface
#208 [01:34] <Satchel_Adair> or are you refering to layer 18
#209 [01:35] <Satchel_Adair> Hello again VoxelHead
#210 [01:35] <Satchel_Adair> I sent you a PM, if you can't do anything with it. I understand. thanks for the help
#211 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - Vox is a bot
#212 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - I assume it hasn't worked?
#213 [01:36] <Satchel_Adair> Sorry.
#214 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - Do you happen to have access to another computer that you can run minecraft on?
#215 [01:37] <tommygoesha> my castle reachs from bedrock to sky
#216 [01:37] <Satchel_Adair> I am currently running without any antivirus, and the firewall is turned off
#217 [01:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? phantominput
#218 [01:38] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#219 [01:38] <Satchel_Adair> This is the only computer i have access to right now
#220 [01:38] <DopeGhoti> ↑ you don't have that software installed, do you?
#221 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - It's not that, minecraft won't update, is stuck on progress bar
#222 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Usually a sign of firewall software blocking it, but isn't in this case
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#224 [01:39] <Satchel_Adair> i do use comcast, but i have never heard of constant guard
#225 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Thinking it's a connection problem of some sort
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#227 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> How is your computer hooked up? Wired? Wireless?
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#229 [01:40] <Satchel_Adair> I am currently on wi-fi but i am also plugged into the wall, but that is disabled atm
#230 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: yes, but who knows what other problems that software causes. And ey's on Comcast, so….
#231 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - Hmm, could you reenable the ethernet connection?
#232 [01:41] <Satchel_Adair> i actually thought of doing that earlier. but i was unable to find it again on my computer the way i normally do.
#233 [01:41] <Satchel_Adair> I realize that sounds stupid and
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#235 [01:42] <Satchel_Adair> nix and
#236 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#237 [01:43] <Satchel_Adair> Disregard that.
#238 [01:44] <Pinky> can someone help me a little with online play?
#239 [01:44] <Pinky> im getting good frames and i can connect to a server with my friends, but i have like 5 second delay lag
#240 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Pinky - Does it do it on all servers, or just the server with your friends
#241 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what kind of server you and your friends are connecting to? Is it a home-hosted server?
#242 [01:45] <Pinky> i haven't been to any other servers, i don't know any
#243 [01:45] <Pinky> it's not home hosted
#244 [01:46] <Pinky> they aren't lagging like i am
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#246 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> What's your connection like?
#247 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Can you do a speedtest.net?
#248 [01:46] <Pinky> yeah i will
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#250 [01:47] <Pinky> download is 6.6
#251 [01:47] <Pinky> upload is 2.88
#252 [01:47] <Pinky> to a 31 ms ping
#253 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> That should be enough to play minecraft without lag..
#254 [01:48] <Pinky> i imagine it would, i updated java and tried gamebooster as well
#255 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> You are running the latest 1.6.6, right?
#256 [01:48] <Pinky> my java was fine
#257 [01:48] <Pinky> this server is still in 1.5
#258 [01:48] <Satchel_Adair> i honestly don't know how to re-enable my wired connection. The icon is gone from my start bar, and the icon has disappeared from my Network connections window
#259 [01:48] <Pinky> so i patched minecraft back to 1.5 to play with my friends
#260 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - That's not good, um, can you check your network connection manager, and see if you have a LAN connection listed there?
#261 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Also, is your NIC enabled in the device manager?
#262 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Pinky - Hmm..
#263 [01:52] <Pinky> that is exactly how i feel man
#264 [01:53] <Satchel_Adair> LANs listed are wireless con 1, and 2, and Hamachi.
#265 [01:53] <VoxelHead> conless wire
#266 [01:54] <Satchel_Adair> NIC?
#267 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> network card
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#269 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Pinky - could you try 72.9.146.82:25587
#270 [01:57] <Pinky> is that server set up for 1.5
#271 [01:57] <Pinky> so that i can enter
#272 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> I think that server's still running 1.5
#273 [01:57] <Pinky> ok
#274 [01:57] <Pinky> yes i will try it
#275 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> Satchel_Adair: you might want to try removing Hamachi
#276 [01:57] <Satchel_Adair> disabling it? or uninstalling it?
#277 [01:58] <DopeGhoti> uninstalling completely
#278 [01:58] <DopeGhoti> it's made of fail to begin with
#279 [01:59] <Satchel_Adair> yeah, i haven't liked it since the beginning, but its how i acces my friends server
#280 [01:59] <Pinky> GreyVulpine
#281 [01:59] <Pinky> it's still laggy for me
#282 [01:59] <Pinky> the same as in the server I mentioned earlier
#283 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> Satchel_Adair: have your friend learn how to forward ports.
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#285 [02:00] <Pinky> I can break a block and it will reappear in a few seconds
#286 [02:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> Pinky smp/spawnzone
#287 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Pinky: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#288 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Pinky: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#289 [02:01] <Satchel_Adair> i uninstalled hamachi
#290 [02:05] <Satchel_Adair> Um. Within the Device Manager I cannot see the Network Card
#291 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> For network adapters?
#292 [02:05] <Pinky> GreyVulpine
#293 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> That's probably why you don't see the ethernet then...
#294 [02:05] <Pinky> this chat lag is really bad
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#296 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Interesting, I don't get any lag to it, and it's hosted offsite
#297 [02:06] <Satchel_Adair> I see two different wireless adapters and Nvidia networking blah blah
#298 [02:06] <VoxelHead> Adapterless wires.
#299 [02:06] <Pinky> Im going to check my ping and packets on a diffferent game
#300 [02:06] <Pinky> brb.
#301 [02:06] <Satchel_Adair> is there a way to correct this
#302 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - I don't know.
#303 [02:08] <Pinky> I'm having no problems on other games.
#304 [02:09] <Pinky> I checked and it's not packet loss
#305 [02:09] <Satchel_Adair> Does it matter? my internet connection has been strictly wireless for months
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#307 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> I suppose not, if you have been able to download minecraft files before, sometimes wireless signals like to flake out if they have poor reception
#308 [02:10] <Satchel_Adair> I have an N connection
#309 [02:10] <Satchel_Adair> ver fast and strong all of the time
#310 [02:11] <Satchel_Adair> I really appreciate your help.
#311 [02:11] <Pinky> is there a way to check ping while connected to a minecraft server?
#312 [02:11] <monarch> has anyone had problems playing since the update?
#313 [02:11] <Satchel_Adair> I have
#314 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Pinky - No
#315 [02:12] <monarch> alright. because it just gives me a white screen.. im not too sure what its doing
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#317 [02:14] <monarch> anyone got a clue?
#318 [02:15] <Satchel_Adair> That isn't what is happening to me
#319 [02:15] <Satchel_Adair> when does the white screen come in
#320 [02:16] <Satchel_Adair> Can you log in?
#321 [02:16] <_303> monarch: did you have any texture pack installed?
#322 [02:16] <monarch> it goes to the java load, loads that then goes to an update screen that says update finished then immediately after goes to the white screen
#323 [02:17] <monarch> and yeah, i can log in on the website. im playing in browser. out of browser it crashes right after i hit login
#324 [02:17] <Satchel_Adair> you might want to try using mcpatcher
#325 [02:17] <Satchel_Adair> worked for a couple of my friends.
#326 [02:17] <Satchel_Adair> Even ones not using a texture pack
#327 [02:18] <monarch> i haven't installed any so no, i dont think i do
#328 [02:18] <Satchel_Adair> when you run the Minecraft.exe does it let you log in, or does it go straight to white?
#329 [02:19] <Satchel_Adair> GreyVulpine - any other ideas for the freezing DL
#330 [02:19] <Satchel_Adair> ?
#331 [02:19] <monarch> it opens the main screen, then i hit login and it crashes
#332 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - Not off the top of my head
#333 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> monarch - Has it worked before?
#334 [02:20] <monarch> yeah, before the newest patch
#335 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#336 [02:20] <monarch> win7
#337 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> ??> monarch win/reisnt
#338 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> ??> monarch win/reinst
#339 [02:20] <monarch> ?
#340 [02:20] <VoxelHead> monarch: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#341 [02:20] <VoxelHead> monarch: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#342 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> would help if I spelled it right
#343 [02:21] <monarch> ill give that a try thanks
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#345 [02:24] <Satchel_Adair> when you asked if i had another computer, where was that line of thought going?
#346 [02:24] <komorra> Hi, I'm currently developing my own mc server, if anyone would to test - and help me - msg me. Hamachi will be needed to play.
#347 [02:24] <Satchel_Adair> @GreyVulpine
#348 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - If the other computer could and would download, you could transfer the .minecraft updated files over to your computer
#349 [02:24] <monarch> hm its not working
#350 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Satchel_Adair - if that computer was on the same network, would prove that it's nothing wrong with your network, and is localized to that computer only
#351 [02:25] <Satchel_Adair> could those files be emailed?
#352 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> It's against Mojang's Terms of Service to distribute files.
#353 [02:25] <monarch> its something with java, ill reinstall that
#354 [02:26] <Satchel_Adair> i understand that, but how is that different from usb transfer
#355 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> If you're transferring from your own computer, that's for your personal backup reasons.
#356 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> If I'm giving you my .minecraft files, I'm distributing files against the ToS.
#357 [02:27] <Satchel_Adair> I had no intentions of asking that of you.
#358 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Just as an example
#359 [02:27] <Satchel_Adair> if i have other computers. could those be used
#360 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#361 [02:28] <Satchel_Adair> ones that aren't on the network?
#362 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> As long as they're computers you can access, you can use them to download minecraft
#363 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't have a DRM system.
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#365 [02:28] <Satchel_Adair> if a friend were to log onto minecraft as me, could this work?
#366 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps.
#367 [02:29] <Satchel_Adair> log onto my computer
#368 [02:29] <Satchel_Adair> and then e-mail me the .minecraft folder?
#369 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> If it would allow you to download those files, I don't see why not.
#370 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> As long as you're not giving it out to the public.
#371 [02:30] <Satchel_Adair> no, i just wanna play minecraft again. i haven't been able to since fridat
#372 [02:30] <Satchel_Adair> y
#373 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> The reason that Notch put that clause in, is to make sure people that buy minecraft, get the minecraft files directly from him, and him only.
#374 [02:31] <Satchel_Adair> yeah, i did know that
#375 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> It prevents people from sharing potentially compromised files.
#376 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> as well as limiting access to piraters who have no intention of buying the game
#377 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> ♫"…Gotta craft mines on Friday…"♫
#378 [02:31] <Satchel_Adair> yeah
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#380 [02:34] <Satchel_Adair> a friend of mine is going to use my computer at my apt. to try this out.
#381 [02:35] <Satchel_Adair> Any idea how large the .minecraft folder is/
#382 [02:35] <Satchel_Adair> ?
#383 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> not terribly
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#385 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> depends on the size of your world(s); mine's 131 MiB
#386 [02:36] <Chai> hi everyone
#387 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> morning
#388 [02:36] <Chai> Do you think you can help me? I'm trying to figure out how to fix the server I'm on
#389 [02:37] <DopeGhoti> Not if you don't tell us what the problem is ☻
#390 [02:37] * mib_68mjp9 [mib_68mjp9@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#391 [02:37] <Chai> =P I'm sure that would help
#392 [02:38] <Chai> alright, well everytime one of the users do anything, open doors chests, etc. the message "you don't have permission to use that here" comes up
#393 [02:38] <Chai> /help doesn't work. Neither does /spawn, /home, etc...
#394 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? spawnzone
#395 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/spawnzone
#396 [02:39] <VoxelHead> smp/spawnzone: The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#397 [02:39] <Chai> Nope not in the spawn zone
#398 [02:39] <VoxelHead> smp/spawnzone: If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#399 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> Are there any mods on the server?
#400 [02:39] <Chai> Unfortunately I'm just a mod. And the owner is asleep
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#402 [02:39] <Chai> It's not in the spawn zone. I'm even getting the message 2000 blocks from spawn
#403 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Probably a bukkit plugin then
#404 [02:40] <Chai> maybe. The owner was going on and on about a bukkit plug in earlier
#405 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> indeed. I'd try axeing the mods
#406 [02:40] <Chai> ?
#407 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> yeah, divest the mods from the server and all will be well
#408 [02:41] <Chai> so get rid of the mods? and things should work?
#409 [02:41] <Satchel_Adair> he probably is not able to do that as a mod
#410 [02:41] <Chai> he told me to hunt down some clues on how to fix it while he's away
#411 [02:41] <Chai> I'll tell him what I found tomorrow X_x
#412 [02:42] <Satchel_Adair> that is almost def the problem. it happened in my server as well
#413 [02:42] <Satchel_Adair> no mods, no problem
#414 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> probably a permissions screw up
#415 [02:43] <Chai> when I test out to see if I can use /help it says that I don't have permission to use that command
#416 [02:43] <monarch> so it hasn't worked yet..
#417 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that sounds like a permissions problem
#418 [02:43] <Chai> it actually says it for every user
#419 [02:43] <Satchel_Adair> he needs to make you an op again
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#421 [02:43] <Chai> op?
#422 [02:43] <DopeGhoti> or just get rid of the mod
#423 [02:43] <Chai> sorry, I'm kinda a noob at this to be honest. XD well server wise.
#424 [02:44] * oldtopmanserver [oldtopmanserver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#425 [02:44] <Chai> there are quite a few mods on the server
#426 [02:44] <Satchel_Adair> he needs to add you to the op list in his server folder
#427 [02:44] <Chai> we just had a Server Restart a little while ago and it screwed things up
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#429 [02:44] <Chai> everything was reset
#430 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> "Permission" is the bukkit plugin that gives server owners finer control over who gets to do what on the server, including build permissions and /commands
#431 [02:44] <Satchel_Adair> along with the other moderators
#432 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> He most likely has that file screwed up, or improperly edited
#433 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> There's another bukkit plugin that does the same thing as permissions, but the name escapes me at the moment
#434 [02:45] <Chai> So should I recommend that he take off all the mods and then get a new file of the Permission bukkit program?
#435 [02:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#435 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> If Permissions is indeed what he's using
#436 [02:46] <Chai> I think it was, I remember him saying earlier tonight
#437 [02:46] <Chai> After he installed the program things went screwy
#438 [02:46] <Chai> nothing worked. X__x
#439 [02:47] <Chai> Would he be able to reinstate mods after the new file is installed?
#440 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if he sets them up correctly
#441 [02:47] <Satchel_Adair> if they are updated
#442 [02:48] <Chai> So get rid of mods, delete file, get new one, make sure everyone is updated and then reinstate admins and mods?
#443 [02:49] <Satchel_Adair> add the mods only if they are up to date with
#444 [02:49] <DopeGhoti> or better yet, no mods at all
#445 [02:49] <Satchel_Adair> the version you are using
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#447 [02:49] * GreyVulpine agrees with DG's suggestion
#447 [02:50] <Chai> Mods are pretty much useless in my opinion. Well, even though I am one I can't do much of anything XD
#448 [02:51] <Chai> All I am is a FAQ person. X_x how do you lock things and stuff like that
#449 [02:51] <Satchel_Adair> lame
#450 [02:51] <Chai> yeah tell me about it. >.<
#451 [02:51] * mib_8m5nis [mib_8m5nis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#452 [02:51] <Satchel_Adair> you are a wiki.
#453 [02:51] <Satchel_Adair> haha
#454 [02:51] <VoxelHead> Identified... analysis: moron!
#455 [02:52] <Chai> you have no idea how much time I spend on minecraft wiki looking up info that users are too lazy to look up for them selves
#456 [02:52] <Chai> BLARGH
#457 [02:52] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#458 [02:52] <DopeGhoti> Chai: welcome to our world.
#459 [02:52] <Satchel_Adair> Id just tell them to look themselves
#460 [02:53] <Chai> haha sorry. XD At least I've tried looking everywhere for help on this and... no luck so I finally caved and went here
#461 [02:53] <Awesomeness> I'm back
#462 [02:53] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#463 [02:53] <Awesomeness> I accidently feel asleep
#464 [02:53] <Awesomeness> Okay
#465 [02:53] * Awesomeness feels nipples
#465 [02:53] <Chai> welcome back? O__o
#466 [02:53] <Awesomeness> Thanks! :D
#467 [02:54] <Chai> weird nipple toucher XD
#468 [02:54] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: Why do you say such nutty things?
#469 [02:54] <Satchel_Adair> i've been waiting for an invitation like that since I got here
#470 [02:54] <VoxelHead> why not?
#471 [02:54] <Satchel_Adair> And nothign
#472 [02:54] * DopeGhoti shrugs
#472 [02:54] * Cooleo [Cooleo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#473 [02:54] <Chai> (.)(.)
#474 [02:54] <Satchel_Adair> Nice
#475 [02:54] <DopeGhoti> vox, give Satchel_Adair an invitation
#476 [02:55] * VoxelHead gives Satchel_Adair an invitation
#476 [02:55] <Satchel_Adair> Wow, thanks. just what I always wanted
#477 [02:55] <Satchel_Adair> If i can't have minecraft at least i can have an invitation
#478 [02:55] <Chai> =P
#479 [02:56] <Satchel_Adair> Is Vox actually a bot?
#480 [02:56] * amplifier [amplifier@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#481 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#482 [02:56] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#483 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> Chai: I think you meant (.Y.)
#484 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> but that's not really germane to #minecrafthelp
#485 [02:56] <Chai> huh yeah... that's more attractive. Mine looked kinda saggy
#486 [02:56] <Satchel_Adair> Indeed
#487 [02:57] <Chai> like funky tube boobs
#488 [02:57] * GreyVulpine slinks away...
#488 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Wise.
#489 [02:57] <amplifier> why isn't there any serious minecraft channel...
#490 [02:57] <Satchel_Adair> This was quite serious
#491 [02:57] <Chai> nobody wants tube boobs
#492 [02:57] <Satchel_Adair> until about 2 minutes ago
#493 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> There is, but not on this network. /me gestures at #[bleep] on irc.[blooop].net
#494 [02:58] <amplifier> nobody wants boobs at al in this help channe
#495 [02:58] <amplifier> l
#496 [02:58] <Satchel_Adair> not true
#497 [02:58] <VoxelHead> not true... nue
#498 [02:58] <amplifier> well, i'll just throw my question here
#499 [02:58] <Chai> well I did come here for help to be honest. ^_^
#500 [02:58] <Satchel_Adair> At least not of me
#501 [02:58] * chesnutwilly [chesnutwilly@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#502 [02:58] <SlashLife|2> amplifier: Yeah, why would I want boobs on this channel?
#503 [02:58] <amplifier> is ther any serious bug reporting site regarding minecraft?
#504 [02:58] <SlashLife|2> Give me boobs in real life!
#505 [02:58] <SlashLife|2> Uhh.
#506 [02:59] <SlashLife|2> Let me reconsider that.
#507 [02:59] <SlashLife|2> Give me SOMEONE WITH boobs in real life. :D
#508 [02:59] <DopeGhoti> SlashLife|2: People are not property, to be given away.
#509 [02:59] <Chai> Thanks for your help you guys~ ^_^ I'll relay it to the owner of my server =D You guys ROCK
#510 [02:59] <DopeGhoti> Chai: we try. Ciao!
#511 [02:59] <SlashLife|2> http://www.explosm.net/comics/2434/
#512 [03:00] <Chai> heehee bye~
#513 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> amplifier bugreport
#514 [03:00] <VoxelHead> amplifier: (bugreport) To submit a bug report, first check for duplicates, and then submit your report at http://www.getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#515 [03:00] <amplifier> that's no serious bug reporting site
#516 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> It's the official one
#517 [03:01] <amplifier> then there's no serious one, sadly
#518 [03:01] <amplifier> first because theres no differentation between the minecraft versions
#519 [03:01] <chesnutwilly> errm... aside from the wanting boobs, is there someone that can help me with a problem? - I bought minecraft a while ago, but due to a recent windows reinstallation I don't have it anymore :( can I redownload it somewhere without having to pay for it again?
#520 [03:01] <DopeGhoti> I am not a fan of the site, but that is the official place for bug reports.
#521 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> !client
#522 [03:01] <amplifier> second every little piece of human can write crap here
#523 [03:01] <DopeGhoti> chesnutwilly: yes, you can
#524 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> you just need to still know your account name and password
#525 [03:02] * GreyVulpine points to Aubot for minecraft client download
#525 [03:02] <SlashLife|2> amplifier: That's the only reason why you're allowed to talk in here. :)
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#527 [03:03] <smerft> hey
#528 [03:03] <xales> hi.
#529 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> amplifier: what do you want us to do? We can't force Mojang to use Bugzilla or soemthing; it's up to them.
#530 [03:03] <amplifier> maybe i should edit the "recent bugs"-article in the minecraft wiki, since notch seems to use it at most
#531 [03:03] <amplifier> yea, DopeGhoti, you're right
#532 [03:03] <chesnutwilly> perfect! Thank-you very much!
#533 [03:03] <smerft> anyone having problem after logging in theres just a black screen?
#534 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Actually, the mojang team uses the bugs article, and the getsatisfaction tracker to look for bugs.
#535 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> chesnutwilly: that'll be €8 ☻
#536 [03:04] <Awesomeness> I'm front
#537 [03:04] * Awesomeness feels nipples
#537 [03:04] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE front? feel these nipples!
#538 [03:04] <Awesomeness> <3
#539 [03:04] <smerft> anyone having problem after logging in theres just a black screen?
#540 [03:04] <Awesomeness> smerft: do this
#541 [03:04] <amplifier> yea, i'm sure they will look at it sometimes, but there's another problem in that bug report system
#542 [03:04] <Awesomeness> ??> smerft win/reinst
#543 [03:05] <VoxelHead> smerft: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#544 [03:05] <VoxelHead> smerft: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#545 [03:05] <smerft> thanks
#546 [03:05] <amplifier> look at the clay problem
#547 [03:05] <Awesomeness> np
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#549 [03:05] <amplifier> there's no clay at all in MC, but only 16 people voted up the article
#550 [03:06] <DopeGhoti> "No clay at all?"
#551 [03:06] <DopeGhoti> There's aa brick lighthouse on my server that disagrees.
#552 [03:06] * MiLk [MiLk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#553 [03:07] <DopeGhoti> it's rare mind you
#554 [03:07] <DopeGhoti> there are 9325 unharvested clay blocks in the world
#555 [03:07] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#556 [03:07] <amplifier> then i'm really unlucky to have a map with absolutely NO clay at all
#557 [03:07] <VoxelHead> I like them =)
#558 [03:07] <amplifier> not only one
#559 [03:07] <DopeGhoti> http://ghoti.dyndns.org:8080/~minecraft/stats.txt
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#561 [03:07] <DopeGhoti> ↑ the composition of my server
#562 [03:08] * mib_e53ntn [mib_e53ntn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
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#564 [03:08] <smiller2144> hello?
#565 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> Ahoyhoi?
#566 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#567 [03:09] <smiller2144> is anyone here?
#568 [03:09] <squonk4u> I just got here
#569 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope. All dead
#570 [03:09] <smiller2144> oh ok]
#571 [03:09] <amplifier> like seen here
#572 [03:09] <amplifier> http://goo.gl/9nbvh
#573 [03:09] <smiller2144> HELP ME!
#574 [03:09] <squonk4u> anyway hi hi
#575 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#576 [03:09] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#577 [03:09] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#578 [03:09] <smiller2144> ok then
#579 [03:09] <squonk4u> okay set up minecraft server
#580 [03:09] <squonk4u> hammachi connects...
#581 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#582 [03:09] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#583 [03:09] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#584 [03:09] <squonk4u> problem everything keeps respawning...trees, wood, land
#585 [03:10] <VoxelHead> Thank you... i love you.
#586 [03:10] <squonk4u> help
#587 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> also
#588 [03:10] <squonk4u> ?
#589 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/spawnzone
#590 [03:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> squonk4u smp/spawnzone
#591 [03:10] <VoxelHead> squonk4u: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#592 [03:10] <VoxelHead> squonk4u: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#593 [03:10] <squonk4u> where can I adjust this in the config?
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#595 [03:11] <DopeGhoti> ??> squonk4u smp/opyourself
#596 [03:11] <VoxelHead> squonk4u: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#597 [03:11] <VoxelHead> squonk4u: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#598 [03:11] <squonk4u> yes I just built it
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#600 [03:13] <smerft> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THANK YOU SOO MUCH VOXELHEAD!!!
#601 [03:14] <VoxelHead> Blimey.
#602 [03:14] <smiller2144> is there any website, like server craft, were you get to own a minecraft server without setting one up! cuz i cant forward my port!
#603 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Quite a few actually.
#604 [03:14] <smiller2144> tell me please
#605 [03:14] <smiller2144> !
#606 [03:14] <VoxelHead> by the cosmic dust!
#607 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> I can get you a referral link
#608 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Allgamer, multiplay, xenonservers, brohoster, ...
#609 [03:15] <DopeGhoti> a moment please.
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#611 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> There's probably a good few dozen gaming hosts that provide a minecraft server for a modest monthly fee
#612 [03:15] <squonk4u_> :)
#613 [03:15] <smiller2144> THANKS!BUT IS THERE ANY AT ALL FOR FREE
#614 [03:15] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#615 [03:15] <DopeGhoti> you get what you pay for
#616 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> ^
#617 [03:16] <smiller2144> is there any for free??? heelp?
#618 [03:16] <Awesomeness> OH OF COURSE
#619 [03:16] <squonk4u_> okay it's rebuilding the world
#620 [03:16] <squonk4u_> hehe
#621 [03:16] <Awesomeness> THANK THE PERSON WHOS NOT ALIVE
#622 [03:16] <Awesomeness> NOT ME
#623 [03:16] <Awesomeness> >.>
#624 [03:16] <xales> WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING
#625 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps there
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#627 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#628 [03:16] <smiller2144> I DONT KNOW
#629 [03:16] <Skarrgan> Can someone help me with the Cannot Create Java Virtual Machine error?
#630 [03:16] <xales> Skarrgan: Sure.
#631 [03:17] <squonk4u_> so by adding my name to the ops list it won't like respawn or "fix" what I change in game?
#632 [03:17] <xales> Do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#633 [03:17] <Skarrgan> Thanks. And i'ev delete all java files and downloaded the latest soo
#634 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u - Yes
#635 [03:17] <Skarrgan> let me check.
#636 [03:17] <smiller2144> is there any free websites like server craft?? were you dont setup a server??
#637 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> xales: ♪ I had something to day / Man, it's so loud in here / When they stop the drum machine and I can think again / I'll remember what it was ♪
#638 [03:17] <xales> smiller2144: We've already said no.
#639 [03:17] <Skarrgan> 1.98 GB of ram
#640 [03:17] <smiller2144> argh
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#642 [03:18] <smerfdude> hey guys im back, new problem
#643 [03:18] <xales> Skarrgan: Any antivirus software running?
#644 [03:18] <Skarrgan> Nope.
#645 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> smiller2144 - There's nobody out there who will have a machine running, consuming power that's not free, eating up valuable support time, just to host a server for free
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#647 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> No profit in that
#648 [03:18] <Sir_Bunny> hey i need help :(
#649 [03:18] <xales> ?? ask
#650 [03:18] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#651 [03:18] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#652 [03:18] <Sir_Bunny> i got a 24/7 server with whitelist
#653 [03:19] <Sir_Bunny> i ban a guy , remove him from whitelist
#654 [03:19] <xales> Skarrgan: Do you have any other programs open when you try to launch Minecraft?
#655 [03:19] <Sir_Bunny> this mornign he was on again
#656 [03:19] <Sir_Bunny> spawning things he hadn't got the rights for
#657 [03:19] <Skarrgan> Xales: Yeah. I'll try shutting them down. its just warcraft lol.
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#659 [03:19] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Bunny: are you certain the whitelist is enabled?
#660 [03:19] <Sir_Bunny> i checked and whitelist was on, he wasn't in the list , and he was banned
#661 [03:19] <squonk4u_> :)
#662 [03:19] <VoxelHead> :o)
#663 [03:19] <Sir_Bunny> it's some griefer guy i banned yesterday
#664 [03:20] <Skarrgan> Xales: I shut down everything and tried again- same error
#665 [03:20] <Sir_Bunny> i haven't got a clue how he does it :/
#666 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Bunny: is the server set with 'online-mode=true'?
#667 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Sir_Bunny - Have you tried restarting the server after the whitelist change?
#668 [03:20] <Sir_Bunny> yes dope
#669 [03:20] <smerfdude> During play, a pop up come up saying Java(TM) platform SE binary has stopped working, can anyone help me?
#670 [03:20] <Sir_Bunny> no, i'll try the restart now
#671 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> and you are certain that white-list=true?
#672 [03:20] <Silent_Samurai> Who wants to test my server, where I'm running off a laptop, on wireless and playing on the same machine. My download is 1.5 and upload is 0.8
#673 [03:20] <Silent_Samurai> 124.180.171.109
#674 [03:20] <Sir_Bunny> 100% certain
#675 [03:20] <xales> Skarrgan: Does playing in your browser work?
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#677 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> Silent_Samurai: Unsolicited advertisements are not permitted in #minecrafthelp. This has been your warning. Have a pleasant stay.
#678 [03:21] <Skarrgan> Xales: Alpha did. I'll try loading up beta as we talk
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#680 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> Skarrgan: pray tell, how are you playing α?
#681 [03:21] <smerfdude> During play, a pop up come up saying Java(TM) platform SE binary has stopped working, can anyone help me?
#682 [03:21] <Silent_Samurai> DopeGhoti, Lol it wasn't really advertising but stress testing, anyway #smp is dead.
#683 [03:21] <Skarrgan> DopeGhoti: Through the browser.
#684 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> Skarrgan: I don't think α means what you think it means.
#685 [03:22] <rumpler> i tried "instaling" a mod and after i did it says "done loading" but it stop at about 95%ish and doesnt go anyfurther. pls help?
#686 [03:22] <xales> smerfdude: Just ignore it. It's (usually) an unpreventable thing
#687 [03:22] <Skarrgan> DopeGhoti thought a = alpha
#688 [03:22] <xales> ??> rumpler win/reinst
#689 [03:22] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#690 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: try uninstalling the mod?
#691 [03:22] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#692 [03:22] <Skarrgan> Xales: Beta works in my browser
#693 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> Skarrgan: my point being that Minecraft Alpha is not a think one can access by browser any longer
#694 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> er, thing
#695 [03:22] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti: I just played alpha for about 15 hours in last two days in the browser lol
#696 [03:23] <xales> Skarrgan: Are you absolutely sure you don't have any antivirus/other "security" software running?
#697 [03:23] <Skarrgan> Xales: yepyep. I think i actually deleted ll of it off my computer because it was worthless.
#698 [03:23] <smerfdude> i cant ignore it, it closes down the program
#699 [03:23] <xales> smerfdude: Yes, so open it again?
#700 [03:24] <Skarrgan> Xales: I also tried the creating a text document deal that creates a bat file. that didnt work either.
#701 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> and what URL were you going to to get to this alleged 'alpha' of which you speak, Skarrgan?
#702 [03:24] <Skarrgan> Xales: that whole routine.
#703 [03:24] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti: www.minecraft.net
#704 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> The only version one can get there is Beta.
#705 [03:24] <xales> DopeGhoti: They probably mean Classic
#706 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> I think many people confuse alpha with classic
#707 [03:24] <smerfdude> yeah it happens evry 20 seconds of play, just annoying, thought their might be a way around it
#708 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> Like I said, α does not mean what Skarrgan thinks it means.
#709 [03:24] <Skarrgan> DopeGhoti: Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free): my bad. lol
#710 [03:24] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti. the A = alpha.
#711 [03:24] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti: Thought classic was alpha. my bad ;_;
#712 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> Skarrgan: "The More You Know" ♫
#713 [03:25] <xales> Skarrgan: You could try reinstalling Java, but if it works in the browser, I'd just use that I guess :|
#714 [03:25] <squonk4u_> GreyVulpine : everything is still respawning even after I op'd myself from the console
#715 [03:25] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti: I think it comes down to being able to read than knowing ;p
#716 [03:25] <Skarrgan> Xales: i've done that before too ;_;
#717 [03:25] <smerfdude> ok il try browser
#718 [03:25] <DopeGhoti> Gotta start somewhere ☻
#719 [03:25] <Skarrgan> xales: i wanted to play multiplayer with a friend over another deal.
#720 [03:25] <Skarrgan> xales: so im trying to get it to load off of my comp.
#721 [03:25] <Skarrgan> Xales: I think the program was called hamachi if that matters lol
#722 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u_ - Are you running the server on the same computer that you're connecting with?
#723 [03:26] <squonk4u_> No
#724 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u_ - No?
#725 [03:26] <squonk4u_> they are running side by side. Using a 16 port ethernet hub
#726 [03:26] <Skarrgan> Should I just delete system 32? I heard that helps \trollolol
#727 [03:26] <squonk4u_> hamachi server
#728 [03:26] <xales> Skarrgan: You should still be able to play with them using the applet
#729 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u_ - Ew..
#730 [03:26] <Skarrgan> Xales: even though i can't run minecraft beta as a standalone on my computer?
#731 [03:26] <squonk4u_> well I can use the windowXP server
#732 [03:27] <squonk4u_> I haven't messed with apache yet
#733 [03:27] <xales> Skarrgan: It's still _technically_ running standalone, when you play it on minecraft.net
#734 [03:27] <xales> it's just a subprocess of your browser and is rendered inside the browser window
#735 [03:27] <Skarrgan> Xales: \facepalm/ I hate my computer :3
#736 [03:27] <Skarrgan> Xales: Thank you for all the help buddy
#737 [03:27] <xales> No problem
#738 [03:27] <squonk4u_> perhaps I need to restart the server, now that it knows I"m an op
#739 [03:27] <Skarrgan> Dopeghoti Same to you dope.
#740 [03:27] <Skarrgan> Xales: i'll come back and let you know if i succeed or not XD
#741 [03:28] <Skarrgan> until then afk or until i destroy my computer with a sledge hammer :D
#742 [03:28] <xales> Okay. Good luck
#743 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u_ - Sure, if you modified the ops.txt file, you'll need to restart the server to take effect.
#744 [03:28] <amplifier> you mind me chilling here and reading all your posts?
#745 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> We don't mind at all
#746 [03:29] <amplifier> it's interesting
#747 [03:29] <amplifier> kk
#748 [03:29] <amplifier> thx
#749 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> There's 181 other people here as well, not like we're going to kick them all for idling
#750 [03:29] <squonk4u_> true
#751 [03:29] * GreyVulpine kicks xales
#751 [03:29] <amplifier> xD
#752 [03:29] <Awesomeness> oh snap
#753 [03:29] <xales> GreyVulpine: Well... _you_ did do that CLEAR USERS a few months back...
#754 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#755 [03:30] <squonk4u_> what is the level-seed=
#756 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> It was a shiny button, and I wanted to see what it would do
#757 [03:30] <squonk4u_> it's empty by default
#758 [03:30] <Awesomeness> OH SNAP!
#759 [03:30] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://xkcd.com/898/
#760 [03:30] * GreyVulpine snickers
#760 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> squonk4u_ - It's a seed for the random number generator that the map gen uses
#761 [03:31] <amplifier> squonk4u_, you can put a custom map seed here if you want a certain map
#762 [03:31] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine?
#763 [03:31] <squonk4u_> oooo
#764 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Enter in a seed value, and the world generates the same for you, if another person used the same seed
#765 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#766 [03:31] <Awesomeness> Hi.
#767 [03:31] <squonk4u_> so is it a number or a character?
#768 [03:31] <amplifier> it's both
#769 [03:31] <Awesomeness> you can enter anything in there.
#770 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter, it all converts to a numerical value anyways
#771 [03:31] <Awesomeness> like ajsidjasij1sad82d
#772 [03:31] <amplifier> or nothing
#773 [03:32] <amplifier> or "minecraft"
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#775 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/02/23/a-short-demystification-of-the-map-seed/
#776 [03:35] * GreyVulpine also gives VoxelHead: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OI1WAY
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#777 [03:35] <DopeGhoti> heh
#778 [03:35] <VoxelHead> =]
#779 [03:35] <squonk4u_> okay wow..seems to work.
#780 [03:35] <rumpler> i got my problem fixed
#781 [03:35] <rumpler> thanks
#782 [03:35] <anguse> oi i just mined diamond and didnt get shit all
#783 [03:35] <squonk4u_> I'm making it make a new world now
#784 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> You need to mine diamond with an iron pickaxe or better
#785 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> wood and stone won't give you anything
#786 [03:36] <VoxelHead> yay... it burns
#787 [03:36] <anguse> fuck.
#788 [03:36] <anguse> thats quite annoying
#789 [03:36] <squonk4u_> the worst part is that stripy looking blocks
#790 [03:36] <squonk4u_> I can't get thru it with anything
#791 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> That's.. bedrock.
#792 [03:36] <Awesomeness> You mean bedrock?
#793 [03:36] <squonk4u_> is that what it is
#794 [03:37] <squonk4u_> yeah can't get thru it
#795 [03:37] <Awesomeness> You aren't supposed to get 'through that.
#796 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Press F3, what's your y value?
#797 [03:37] <DopeGhoti> you should have been 'trained' for needing good picks when a wood pick would not obtain resources from coal, nor from iron ore
#798 [03:37] <VoxelHead> i got tomato bubblegum!
#799 [03:37] <squonk4u_> oooo
#800 [03:37] <squonk4u_> Well heck, Awesomeness
#801 [03:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: Wood can mine coal
#802 [03:37] <VoxelHead> i got lime bubblegum!
#803 [03:37] <xales> not sure about iron
#804 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. wood can mine coal?
#805 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> No it can't..
#806 [03:38] <xales> I am pretty sure it can
#807 [03:38] <xales> I am also pretty sure that my memory is not functioning well at this hour of the day, especially having not slept much last night
#808 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Well, I'll be, You're right
#809 [03:38] <xales> \o/
#810 [03:39] <Awesomeness> Grey; get your minecraft straight
#811 [03:39] <Awesomeness> You can mine with wooden pick some coal. :D
#812 [03:39] <VoxelHead> yay... it burns
#813 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> pfft, I've been minecrafting for too dang long.
#814 [03:39] <squonk4u_> okay so the only settings I have over monsters is True/False
#815 [03:39] <squonk4u_> Peaceful don't mean nuttin in Multi player
#816 [03:40] <amplifier> exactly
#817 [03:40] <squonk4u_> What swhould my memory usage on the server?
#818 [03:40] <squonk4u_> I'm around 40% free
#819 [03:40] <squonk4u_> while it's well creating the spawn areas
#820 [03:40] <squonk4u_> that takes a bit
#821 [03:40] <squonk4u_> it's a pent IV running two gigs of DDR and erm a striped array
#822 [03:40] <squonk4u_> nutting special
#823 [03:41] <squonk4u_> Don't thik I like Hammachi
#824 [03:42] <squonk4u_> I think I'll try apache tommorrow
#825 [03:42] <AndrewPH> wait what
#826 [03:42] <Awesomeness> Apache?
#827 [03:42] <anguse> how rare are natural caverns at bedrock level.
#828 [03:42] <Awesomeness> Do you know what Apache even is?
#829 [03:42] <squonk4u_> well I've tested TWO servers
#830 [03:42] <Kealper> ^
#831 [03:42] <AndrewPH> ^
#832 [03:42] <squonk4u_> it's an HTTP server
#833 [03:42] <AndrewPH> wrong, it's shite. just kidding you got it right
#834 [03:43] <Awesomeness> umm
#835 [03:43] <Kealper> D:
#836 [03:43] <Awesomeness> And how exactly are you going to use it
#837 [03:43] * Kealper uses it :<
#837 [03:43] <AndrewPH> nginx/lighttpd master race
#838 [03:43] <Awesomeness> with a minecraft server?
#839 [03:43] <squonk4u_> Honestly...
#840 [03:43] <squonk4u_> I built the server from scratch
#841 [03:43] <squonk4u_> I'm trying out different things
#842 [03:43] <Kealper> minecraft Apache module, GOGO
#843 [03:44] <Awesomeness> lol
#844 [03:44] <AndrewPH> Kealper: mod_minecraft
#845 [03:44] <Kealper> ^
#846 [03:44] <squonk4u_> I just got minecraft last week
#847 [03:44] <AndrewPH> (it's in java)
#848 [03:44] <AndrewPH> (also it uses 99% cpu 99% of the time)
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#850 [03:44] <squonk4u_> why am I explaining this?
#851 [03:44] <squonk4u_> obviously I'm a noob, geeze
#852 [03:44] <Kealper> AndrewPH: actually, if you set it's process priority higher, it uses less cpu lol
#853 [03:45] <AndrewPH> Kealper: the fork
#854 [03:45] <Kealper> (yes, i said that right)
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#856 [03:45] <Awesomeness> Sqozzaaaaaa!
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#861 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#862 [04:05] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.234 seconds.
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#865 [04:08] <Awesomeness> LOL
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#867 [04:08] <Awesomeness> I took a JavaScript and HTML Quiz
#868 [04:08] <Awesomeness> and the funny thing is
#869 [04:08] <Awesomeness> I got a higher score in JavaScript
#870 [04:08] <Awesomeness> >.>
#871 [04:09] <Awesomeness> By a whole 1 answer..
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#873 [04:22] <squonk4u_> Do you script for fun or what, Awesomeness?
#874 [04:23] <Awesomeness> What?
#875 [04:23] <Awesomeness> Oh
#876 [04:23] <Awesomeness> no, not really.
#877 [04:23] <Awesomeness> well, kinda
#878 [04:24] <Awesomeness> I have a small website running here: awesomeness.inafire.com
#879 [04:24] * squonk4u_ looks
#879 [04:24] <Awesomeness> special thanks to Xales tho. :D)
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#881 [04:24] <CaleRicketts> Hello all
#882 [04:25] * squonk4u_ grins
#882 [04:25] <squonk4u_> Nice.
#883 [04:25] <Awesomeness> Thanks, I suppose
#884 [04:25] <squonk4u_> Listen. I'm a hardware tech. So my background is in putting boxes together.
#885 [04:25] <Awesomeness> but I still need to do ALOT of work
#886 [04:25] <CaleRicketts> Is xales here?
#887 [04:26] <Awesomeness> Squonk4u_
#888 [04:26] <squonk4u_> This is new.
#889 [04:26] <Awesomeness> do you know HTML?
#890 [04:26] <squonk4u_> omg. Um I think I can remember the basics yesh.
#891 [04:26] <Awesomeness> What do you mean by this is new?
#892 [04:26] <CaleRicketts> Hello guys any Mac minecrafters here?
#893 [04:27] <squonk4u_> oh. Well this is the first time I've actually set up a server at home.
#894 [04:27] <squonk4u_> lol
#895 [04:27] <squonk4u_> it's retarded
#896 [04:27] <squonk4u_> and I'm new to minecraft.
#897 [04:28] <squonk4u_> between this and linux, I'm having a ball.
#898 [04:28] <squonk4u_> NeWay, appreciate your assistance.
#899 [04:28] <squonk4u_> G'nite, all.
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#903 [04:41] <erith_fi> is it possible to go back to a more stable, less buggy, less "this isn't fun anymore" 1.5 server & client but import my 1.6 world?
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#905 [04:48] <CaleRicketts> Any mac users out there?
#906 [04:48] <Awesomeness> No, but I'll be happy to help.
#907 [04:48] <Awesomeness> What's the issue?
#908 [04:50] <CaleRicketts> Sorry for the delay but I cant launch my sever
#909 [04:50] <CaleRicketts> Terminal wont open so I cant use the commands
#910 [04:51] <Awesomeness> umm... are you trying to use bukkit?
#911 [04:53] <CaleRicketts> Yes I am
#912 [04:53] <Awesomeness> #bukkit
#913 [04:54] <Awesomeness> We help with Vanilla. :P
#914 [04:54] <CaleRicketts> Ok thanks
#915 [04:54] <CaleRicketts> Bye!
#916 [04:54] <Awesomeness> Bye
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#924 [05:28] <Blacktemeraire> is a mod on who can help me out?
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#926 [05:29] <Shinato> hey whats the channel for mod help?
#927 [05:30] <Awesomeness> Wihch mod?
#928 [05:30] <Shinato> single player commands
#929 [05:30] <Awesomeness> umm..
#930 [05:30] <Awesomeness> not sure.
#931 [05:30] <Awesomeness> What do you need help with?
#932 [05:32] <sammaelt> there a no channel for modhelp but you can discuss modding on risucraft or mcp-modding
#933 [05:32] <sammaelt> are*
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#935 [05:33] <SirTrumpet> Hello Guys
#936 [05:33] <Awesomeness> Hey
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#938 [05:33] <sammaelt> what's your problem with SPC? i use it
#939 [05:34] <SirTrumpet> i never had problem with this but now: after aprox. 20 minutes of playing minecraft online I get the error "out of memory" and it shuts down. i have 4 GB Ram.
#940 [05:34] <SirTrumpet> it happens in the browser and downloaded version
#941 [05:34] <sammaelt> i got the exact same problem several times
#942 [05:34] <sammaelt> andi got 4 gb of ram too
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#944 [05:34] <sammaelt> i could see through the floors when that happened
#945 [05:35] <SirTrumpet> same here
#946 [05:35] <lartza> Constant crashing on SMP due to furnaces?
#947 [05:35] <sammaelt> chunks wouldnt all generate
#948 [05:35] <sammaelt> it's been like this since i updated to 1.6.5
#949 [05:35] <SirTrumpet> can i do something against it
#950 [05:35] <sammaelt> im gonna update to 1.6.6 to see if it changes anything
#951 [05:35] <sammaelt> try capping at 90 or 40 your framerate
#952 [05:35] <SirTrumpet> because it happens all the time
#953 [05:35] <lartza> 1.6.6 http://pastebin.com/Y9jhDFdf
#954 [05:36] <SirTrumpet> what to do with that sir
#955 [05:36] <Blacktemeraire> ah there are people on now yay! i am constantly getting kicked from my multiplayer server and i have no idea how to fix the issue
#956 [05:36] <sammaelt> try capping your framerate i think its the only way
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#958 [05:36] <sammaelt> or you might put the java.exe process in high priority too
#959 [05:37] <lartza> Blacktemeraire: Kicked? Deop the guy who is kicking you
#960 [05:37] <Blacktemeraire> not "kicked" perse more like the game throws an exception and shuts down
#961 [05:37] <sammaelt> also you might get a better gfx card sadly, its not only ram
#962 [05:38] <lartza> Blacktemeraire: Well then... on connect?
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#964 [05:38] <SirTrumpet> i have a GTX 260
#965 [05:38] <lartza> Blacktemeraire: What is the message?
#966 [05:38] <SirTrumpet> it should be enough...
#967 [05:38] <Blacktemeraire> about 5 min after i start mining/building
#968 [05:38] <lartza> I run Minecraft on 2Ghz P4 and FX5500 128mb
#969 [05:38] <lartza> 512mb ram
#970 [05:38] <lartza> So enough :)
#971 [05:38] <Blacktemeraire> no message it just shuts down
#972 [05:38] <sammaelt> well minecraft is a real big card heater
#973 [05:38] <sammaelt> are you using far render lartza
#974 [05:39] <lartza> sammaelt: Changing depending on situation
#975 [05:39] <Awesomeness> P4, FX5500?
#976 [05:39] <lartza> sammaelt: Usually normal and smaller if buuilding/mining
#977 [05:39] <lartza> Awesomeness: Yes?
#978 [05:39] <sammaelt> minecraft at 20 fps is not really cool
#979 [05:39] <Awesomeness> That's like, a bit younger than me. >.>
#980 [05:39] <Awesomeness> It's like 12 years old!
#981 [05:39] <lartza> sammaelt: Doesn't bother me :) 1.6 is a lot faster too so I get stable 20fps :P
#982 [05:39] <Awesomeness> LOL
#983 [05:40] <sammaelt> 1.6 is a lot slower for me duh im sad
#984 [05:40] <Awesomeness> I get around a stable 500 fps
#985 [05:40] <Blacktemeraire> i know my issue isn't graphics card as i have a fairly nice card
#986 [05:40] <Awesomeness> You should really upgrade.
#987 [05:40] <lartza> sammaelt: I use optifog so that it loads like "far" but I can change the render
#988 [05:40] <sammaelt> tired of "out of memory" crashes :(
#989 [05:40] <lartza> sammaelt: I've got only one and it was on 1.6.6 when I was settinge verything to the max to test :P
#990 [05:40] <lartza> -Xmx768M
#991 [05:40] <lartza> usually run at 512M
#992 [05:41] <lartza> But are your SMP furnaces working in 1.6.6? :S
#993 [05:41] <lartza> My friend's server crashes when he puts items inside a furnace
#994 [05:41] <sammaelt> got one every once and there after a few minutes, especially if i go too far away from my spawn point, trying to update to 1.6.6 right ill see if thats better
#995 [05:41] <sammaelt> now*
#996 [05:41] * Blacktemeraire is wondering who to talk to
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#997 [05:42] <lartza> Blacktemeraire: I wasnät here taht long so what was the issue? :)
#998 [05:42] <lartza> *wasn't here that
#999 [05:42] <Blacktemeraire> constant crashing
#1000 [05:42] <lartza> 1.6.6?
#1001 [05:42] <SirTrumpet> what is advanced open gl?
#1002 [05:42] <Blacktemeraire> usualy about 5 min after i start to build/mine and yes 1.6.6
#1003 [05:42] <lartza> SirTrumpet: Advanced OpenGL :)
#1004 [05:43] <lartza> SirTrumpet: The fast setting should use more efficient renderign to render only visible blocks
#1005 [05:43] <sammaelt> it's funny they're talking about keyboards layout on minecraft channel since half an hour too
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#1007 [05:43] <sammaelt> oops wrong channel
#1008 [05:44] <Blacktemeraire> lartza?
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#1010 [05:44] <lartza> Blacktemeraire: No idea sorry :S
#1011 [05:44] <lartza> I want my furnace working :(
#1012 [05:45] <Blacktemeraire> well i will continue my quest to fix this -.-
#1013 [05:45] <lartza> Notch didn't see me on twitter, which isn't a surprise
#1014 [05:48] <anguse> oi whats the dark blue ore? not diamond.
#1015 [05:49] <lartza> anguse: Blue color
#1016 [05:49] <lartza> anguse: Lapis Lazuli ore
#1017 [05:49] <sammaelt> lapis lazuli
#1018 [05:49] <sammaelt> yea
#1019 [05:49] <sammaelt> its for dyeing wools
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#1021 [05:50] <anguse> k thanks how rare?
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#1024 [05:52] <lartza> anguse: Not that rare
#1025 [05:52] <lartza> anguse: I would say between redstone and gold where gold is more rare
#1026 [05:53] <anguse> sweet
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#1030 [06:09] <SirTrumpet> http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/american_dream/ i found this game in the link section in minecraft
#1031 [06:09] <SirTrumpet> what a nice game
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#1033 [06:11] <quiggle> anyone here?
#1034 [06:11] <SirTrumpet> only 178 ppl
#1035 [06:12] <quiggle> i mean @ computer, not just idling
#1036 [06:12] <quiggle> i got a big problem : i cant play threw the client - it says cant connect to minecraft.net, but inbrowser it works
#1037 [06:15] <Awesomeness> quiggle
#1038 [06:15] <Awesomeness> what's your minecraft username?
#1039 [06:15] <quiggle> yes?
#1040 [06:15] <quiggle> Sphexx
#1041 [06:15] <Awesomeness> !Paid Sphexx
#1042 [06:15] <Awesomeness> Okay
#1043 [06:16] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1044 [06:16] <Awesomeness> Please download that client and tell me if it works or not.
#1045 [06:16] <quiggle> works, thx
#1046 [06:16] <quiggle> what was it?
#1047 [06:16] <Awesomeness> No problem
#1048 [06:16] <Awesomeness> Enjoy minecraft
#1049 [06:17] <quiggle> thank you :) but what was the problem?
#1050 [06:17] <Awesomeness> Outdated Minecraft Client
#1051 [06:17] <quiggle> ah ok
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#1054 [06:22] <justpixels> I need some help from a admin :)
#1055 [06:23] <Awesomeness> Admin - in this chatroom?
#1056 [06:26] <justpixels> Doesnt matter
#1057 [06:26] <justpixels> :)
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#1059 [06:26] <HexxyDecimal> Hey Guys! In need of help!
#1060 [06:26] <Awesomeness> ??> help
#1061 [06:26] <HexxyDecimal> ??
#1062 [06:26] <Awesomeness> ??> HexxyDecimal help
#1063 [06:26] <VoxelHead> HexxyDecimal: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1064 [06:27] <VoxelHead> HexxyDecimal: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1065 [06:27] <Awesomeness> What that means is, tell your question
#1066 [06:27] <Awesomeness> don't go in saying you need help
#1067 [06:27] <Awesomeness> Tell what you need help with. lol
#1068 [06:27] <justpixels> Well 24 may i ordered Minecraft. But i still didnt received my email and my account is still not premium. One of you sayed i need to contact my bank/ideal. I did this. They said that the payment was accepted. So the problem is at your side.
#1069 [06:28] <justpixels> Sorry about my english :$
#1070 [06:28] <HexxyDecimal> Anyways, I bought a copy of Minecraft and downloaded it onto my laptop. I now want to download a copy onto my desktop but there is no link saying I can do so. \
#1071 [06:28] <HexxyDecimal> The regular downloads will not work either. :/
#1072 [06:28] <Awesomeness> Pixels, hold on
#1073 [06:28] <Awesomeness> I'm helping HexxyDecimal.
#1074 [06:28] <justpixels> Ok :)
#1075 [06:28] <HexxyDecimal> Thanks. :)
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#1077 [06:28] <Awesomeness> HexxyDecimal: What is the username you use to login into your Minecraft?
#1078 [06:28] <HexxyDecimal> same as my nick. HexxyDecimal
#1079 [06:29] <Awesomeness> !Paid HexxyDecimal
#1080 [06:29] <Awesomeness> Alright
#1081 [06:29] <HexxyDecimal> I have.
#1082 [06:29] <Awesomeness> Okay, uh
#1083 [06:29] <Awesomeness> What you do is, you go to minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1084 [06:29] <Awesomeness> and download minecraft.exe from there
#1085 [06:29] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1086 [06:29] <HexxyDecimal> Yeah, it doesn't work. I've tried.
#1087 [06:29] <Awesomeness> What does it say?
#1088 [06:29] <HexxyDecimal> Says that it cannot find the location.
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#1090 [06:30] <HexxyDecimal> And that I need to use an internet based search to find the correct program.
#1091 [06:30] <Awesomeness> Can you give me a screenshot, pleasE?
#1092 [06:30] <Awesomeness> *please
#1093 [06:30] <HexxyDecimal> saving from s3.amazonaws.com
#1094 [06:30] <HexxyDecimal> kk
#1095 [06:30] <HexxyDecimal> How do I link?
#1096 [06:30] <Awesomeness> Upload the screenshot to imageshack.us
#1097 [06:31] <HexxyDecimal> Ok, gimme a minute and I'll do it for you. In the meantime feel free to help justpixels
#1098 [06:31] <justpixels> Ok thanks.
#1099 [06:31] <justpixels> Well 24 may i ordered Minecraft. But i still didnt received my email and my account is still not premium. One of you sayed i need to contact my bank/ideal. I did this. They said that the payment was accepted. So the problem is at your side.
#1100 [06:32] <TheNytangel> Yayyyy
#1101 [06:32] <TheNytangel> Field trip in summer school
#1102 [06:32] <TheNytangel> Going to a town 4 hours away to sand bag
#1103 [06:32] <Awesomeness> First of all, #Minecrafthelp does NOT represent Mojang
#1104 [06:33] <Awesomeness> Nor do they pay us, we are just here to help. :P
#1105 [06:33] <justpixels> Are you serious?
#1106 [06:33] <TheNytangel> Nor do we work for Minecraft
#1107 [06:33] <justpixels> How do i contact Mojang?
#1108 [06:33] <TheNytangel> E-mail them
#1109 [06:33] <Awesomeness> What I would do is
#1110 [06:33] <justpixels> E-mail?
#1111 [06:33] <justpixels> Omg
#1112 [06:33] <Awesomeness> I would buy Minecraft again
#1113 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> No.. that is not what you do
#1114 [06:33] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1115 [06:33] <Awesomeness> Grey
#1116 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> email payment@mojang.com
#1117 [06:33] <Awesomeness> listen till the end
#1118 [06:33] <Awesomeness> if I get charged twice
#1119 [06:34] <Awesomeness> I would email payment@Mojang.com
#1120 [06:34] * GreyVulpine baps Awesomeness
#1120 [06:34] <HexxyDecimal> Hey. Link here >> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/minecrafterror.png/
#1121 [06:34] <justpixels> So i need to send them E-mail V,V
#1122 [06:34] <justpixels> So it wil take 2 weeks more they will answer? V,V
#1123 [06:34] <TheNytangel> justpixels, http://www.minecraft.net/community.jsp
#1124 [06:35] <Awesomeness> ummm, Hexxy
#1125 [06:35] <Awesomeness> where is the problem?
#1126 [06:35] <Awesomeness> click save?
#1127 [06:35] <HexxyDecimal> I do, then this happens. Hold on.
#1128 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - Are you absolutely sure the username that you are using to login, is the same username you used to buy the game in the first place?
#1129 [06:35] <r0w> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/wtfminecraft.jpg/ How can I solve these "purple" lines ?
#1130 [06:35] <justpixels> Yea
#1131 [06:35] <justpixels> it was my first account ever and i paid with that one
#1132 [06:35] <Awesomeness> R0w: You are using a ATI card I assume?
#1133 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - Could you fill out a password recovery, and only enter the email address at: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1134 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Just to double check
#1135 [06:35] <r0w> Awesomeness: no nvidia
#1136 [06:36] <justpixels> I did twice already.
#1137 [06:36] <Awesomeness> Oh, hold on
#1138 [06:36] <Awesomeness> Disable AI
#1139 [06:36] <HexxyDecimal> ?
#1140 [06:36] <Awesomeness> In advanced settings
#1141 [06:36] <r0w> AI ?
#1142 [06:36] <Awesomeness> Yes
#1143 [06:36] <quiggle> Do anyone knows how the modname is for the Singleplayer Mod where you can get all the items?
#1144 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Toomanyitems
#1145 [06:36] <r0w> in the graphic card settings ?
#1146 [06:36] <quiggle> ty i hope its the right one :)
#1147 [06:36] <Awesomeness> Yes.
#1148 [06:37] <Awesomeness> You should have a nvidia control panel
#1149 [06:37] <Awesomeness> or something like that
#1150 [06:37] <Awesomeness> click the icon
#1151 [06:37] <r0w> Yes
#1152 [06:37] <Awesomeness> and click advanced settings
#1153 [06:37] <Awesomeness> Where AI is
#1154 [06:37] <r0w> Going to try, thx
#1155 [06:37] <quiggle> yes it is GreyVulpine thanks ! :)
#1156 [06:37] <Awesomeness> Okay, you're welcome.
#1157 [06:37] <Awesomeness> Have fun
#1158 [06:37] <Awesomeness> Btw Grey
#1159 [06:37] <Awesomeness> What does baps mean?
#1160 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - If you're absolutely sure you're accessing the right email, then send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1161 [06:37] <HexxyDecimal> Awesomeness >> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/minecrafterror2.png/ Second image.
#1162 [06:37] <justpixels> Hey wait GreyVulpine
#1163 [06:38] <HexxyDecimal> Then this >> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/30/minecraferror3.jpg/
#1164 [06:38] <justpixels> Couldn't find the user it says when i only enter my email.
#1165 [06:38] <Awesomeness> Woah
#1166 [06:38] <Awesomeness> that's odd
#1167 [06:38] <justpixels> But when i go to profile it says my email.
#1168 [06:38] <HexxyDecimal> Mmmm.
#1169 [06:38] <Awesomeness> seems like windows isn't recognizing the .exe
#1170 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - Try a password recovery on all emails you use
#1171 [06:38] <HexxyDecimal> Thats the problem.
#1172 [06:38] <Awesomeness> Are you totally sure you downloaded .EXE?
#1173 [06:39] <HexxyDecimal> I am positive. I clicked on the link you gave me. It had the same error. I even tried from the Minecraft website.
#1174 [06:39] <justpixels> Ok i tryed all my emails.
#1175 [06:39] <Awesomeness> Do any other .exe files work for you?
#1176 [06:39] <HexxyDecimal> Tried transferring on USB from Laptop to desktop then it doesn't run because it says the game is not downloaded.
#1177 [06:39] <justpixels> But still saying Couldn't find the user
#1178 [06:39] <HexxyDecimal> Of course.
#1179 [06:39] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe?v=1306924750882
#1180 [06:39] <Awesomeness> Try that one, then
#1181 [06:40] <HexxyDecimal> M'ok.
#1182 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - if you notice from that screenshot, the file does not have an .exe extension
#1183 [06:40] <HexxyDecimal> Same issue.
#1184 [06:40] <Awesomeness> Grey - He may have exetensions hidden.
#1185 [06:40] <HexxyDecimal> If I am downloading directly from the Minecraft website it should be working. I've never had an issue with exe's before.
#1186 [06:40] <HexxyDecimal> Also, I'm a girl.
#1187 [06:41] <Awesomeness> *she, sorry.
#1188 [06:41] <HexxyDecimal> :)
#1189 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Even the file properties says it does not have an extension
#1190 [06:41] <Awesomeness> Hexxy, could you enable extensions
#1191 [06:41] <HexxyDecimal> Yeah, that seems to be the problem. Would there be any reason it would not transfer from USB? Or do I need to physically download everything onto my computer in order for it to work?
#1192 [06:41] <justpixels> Grey - When i use my login name at the password recovery it says email send. But when i enter my login name it says Couldn't find that user.
#1193 [06:41] <Awesomeness> and rename the minecraft file to minecraft.exe?
#1194 [06:41] <Awesomeness> Oh,
#1195 [06:42] <Awesomeness> you transffered from your USB?
#1196 [06:42] <HexxyDecimal> Ok, lemme try.
#1197 [06:42] <HexxyDecimal> No, I downloaded that copy.
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#1199 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - Huh?
#1200 [06:42] <HexxyDecimal> When my fiancee tried transferring earlier it wouldn't work which is why I tried to download again.
#1201 [06:42] <justpixels> Ftw?
#1202 [06:43] <Awesomeness> http://www.fileinfo.com/help/windows-show-extensions.html
#1203 [06:43] <Awesomeness> Do that, but instead of it being checked
#1204 [06:43] <Awesomeness> uncheck it, ok?
#1205 [06:43] <Awesomeness> After you've done that, try to rename the Minecraft file to Minecraft.exe
#1206 [06:43] <justpixels> Grey - When i use my login name at the password recovery it says email send. But when i enter my login name it says Couldn't find that user.
#1207 [06:43] <HexxyDecimal> Alright. Saved it as EXE and it's working.\
#1208 [06:43] <HexxyDecimal> !paid Gethhop
#1209 [06:43] <Awesomeness> There you go.
#1210 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> justpixels - I don't know, at this point, try emailing them.
#1211 [06:43] <Awesomeness> Well, have fun HexxyDecimal!
#1212 [06:43] <justpixels> !paid justpixels
#1213 [06:43] <HexxyDecimal> My fiancee's account will not work, but can I log in as myself twice?
#1214 [06:44] <justpixels> WTF?
#1215 [06:44] <HexxyDecimal> Say he will play on my laptop and I can play on PC?
#1216 [06:44] <SlashLife|2> !paid Notch
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#1219 [06:44] <Awesomeness> !Paid GreyVulpine
#1220 [06:44] <Awesomeness> !Paid Ralphie
#1221 [06:44] <HexxyDecimal> !paid Awesomeness
#1222 [06:44] <HexxyDecimal> :O
#1223 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam with !paid
#1224 [06:44] <Awesomeness> Aweosmneess is not my nick, btw.
#1225 [06:44] <justpixels> Ok i will try to send a email. I never pay Mojang anymore with ideal.
#1226 [06:44] <HexxyDecimal> Can I please have my question answered?
#1227 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh, ideal has been nothing but problems around here
#1228 [06:45] <Awesomeness> Grey - can you please fill me on what Baps mean?
#1229 [06:45] <HexxyDecimal> My fiancee's account will not work, but can I log in as myself twice? Say he will play on my laptop and I can play on PC?
#1230 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Hit over head with an open palm
#1231 [06:45] <HexxyDecimal> Awesomeness - Baps means whacks
#1232 [06:45] <Awesomeness> >__>
#1233 [06:45] <HexxyDecimal> :)
#1234 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - Eh, it'll work, but you can't use it to play online with both computers
#1235 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - We also frown on sharing accounts.
#1236 [06:46] <HexxyDecimal> What if I turn my desktop into a server? Multi will not work will it?
#1237 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - No it will not,
#1238 [06:46] <HexxyDecimal> I am planning to buy him a copy of minecraft tomorrow when I get paid, just for tonight.
#1239 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Just out of curiousity, what antivirus program do you use?
#1240 [06:46] <HexxyDecimal> Awesome. Well thats pretty much all I needed to know. You guys are wickedly helpful.
#1241 [06:46] <HexxyDecimal> Me?
#1242 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1243 [06:47] <HexxyDecimal> AVG
#1244 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you use Internet explorer to download that minecraft.exe?
#1245 [06:47] <HexxyDecimal> ..yes
#1246 [06:47] <amplifier> !paid Eximius
#1247 [06:47] <amplifier> hmm
#1248 [06:47] <amplifier> k, thx
#1249 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> We have had quite a few people pass through here, because IE has stripped the .exe from the file
#1250 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Now I know, thanks
#1251 [06:47] <HexxyDecimal> Ahhhh.
#1252 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell if it was IE, or norton doing it
#1253 [06:48] <HexxyDecimal> I just changed the file name and it worked perfectly.
#1254 [06:48] <Awesomeness> Hexxy, I would recommend using Firefox - it's faster and more secure. :P
#1255 [06:48] <HexxyDecimal> I use Chrome. Just logged in on the boys computer.
#1256 [06:48] <ronjn> mobs glitching up and down in a trap is a 1.6 feature, right?
#1257 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Define "glitching"
#1258 [06:49] <HexxyDecimal> Oh, another question. If I wanted to update to 1.6 will it do it automatically if I connect to internet?
#1259 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - Yes
#1260 [06:49] <ronjn> jumping up and down
#1261 [06:49] <ronjn> like crazy
#1262 [06:49] <ronjn> in a 2x2 water trap
#1263 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - It'll ask you, once you log in, if you want to update
#1264 [06:49] <HexxyDecimal> One LAST final question!! So sorry.
#1265 [06:49] <ronjn> about 5 blocks deep
#1266 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to ask, it's what we're here for
#1267 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> ronjn - I haven't updated to 1.6 myself, but I also haven't heard of anything like that from here either.
#1268 [06:51] <ronjn> :(
#1269 [06:51] <ronjn> 1.6 broke so many things...
#1270 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Tell me about it...
#1271 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> maps corrupting maps, player profiles getting screwed up..
#1272 [06:52] <ronjn> i hope he's stealing lots of terraria features for 1.7
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#1274 [06:52] <ronjn> to make up for 1.6
#1275 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully 1.7 is the adventure hook. A new game mode to play with
#1276 [06:52] <HexxyDecimal> Battle caves. Are they generally on the outskirts of maps or what? I cant seem to find them anywhere and have only come across one. Do I need to make a map to find them better?
#1277 [06:53] <HexxyDecimal> :) Fingers crossed. At this moment it's just sandbox. More adventures are needed. :D
#1278 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> HexxyDecimal - No, they're just really rare
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#1280 [06:56] <Awesomeness> Grey
#1281 [06:56] <Awesomeness> I am going to the store.
#1282 [06:56] <Awesomeness> I'll be back in 30.
#1283 [06:56] <_303> meanwhile you can play the adventurecraft mod
#1284 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> adventurecraft mod? Link please?
#1285 [06:58] <mib_sdfgvu> Hi, need some help that i have when i log onto my online account,i have a mac, now as for the problem, you can see my avatars out line but the rest is black, the screen is solid gray, but you cam see the tool bar no problem, any help i can get would be very thankful
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#1287 [07:01] <mib_wzjh7k> hello?
#1288 [07:02] <mib_wzjh7k> can someone help mee please?
#1289 [07:02] <Shinato> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120456-15-01-adventurecraft-effect-blocks-r700/
#1290 [07:04] <mib_wzjh7k> its a problem with my account. Offline everythinh is fine but ONline its major lag... it 'kicks' me (but i can still log back in... java.socket exception or summat). I've tried it on my frineds account (On my computer) and everything's fine! whats so bad about MY account? PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!
#1291 [07:04] <_303> GreyVulpine: shinato has the link ^
#1292 [07:04] <mib_wzjh7k> for me?
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#1294 [07:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :mib_wzjh7k: no
#1295 [07:05] <_303> mib_wzjh7k: uh no, wasn't talking to you, sorry
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#1297 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - Most likely, it's a corrupt player profile on the server that you played on
#1298 [07:05] <s0nny> 'lo, need some help
#1299 [07:05] <mib_wzjh7k> could someone help me?
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#1301 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - Have the server admin on your server delete yourname.dat from /world/players/
#1302 [07:05] <mib_sdfgvu> so how do i fix it?
#1303 [07:05] <mib_wzjh7k> is that for me grey?
#1304 [07:05] <s0nny> trying to update to 1.6_6 but... everytime it tries to download the new .jar file the download freezes
#1305 [07:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :mib_wzjh7k: yes
#1306 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - yes
#1307 [07:06] <mib_wzjh7k> oh okay
#1308 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_sdfgvu - Yours is a different problem.
#1309 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_sdfgvu - Could you give me a screenshot or something of your problem?
#1310 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> s0nny - Tried a "Force Update" through the options menu of the launcher yet?
#1311 [07:06] <mib_sdfgvu> where do i send it?
#1312 [07:07] <s0nny> clicking 'update now', tried in the launcher and the browser
#1313 [07:07] <mib_wzjh7k> grey only one problem..
#1314 [07:07] <mib_wzjh7k> it wont lemme type
#1315 [07:08] <s0nny> oo got to 40% this time, furthest so far ^^
#1316 [07:08] <mib_sdfgvu> ok thanks
#1317 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_sdfgvu - Try using imgur.com or an image host of your choice
#1318 [07:09] <mib_wzjh7k> it keeps saying END OF STREAM
#1319 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> s0nny - Do you have some sort of security software, or firewall that may be blocking minecraft? Perhaps running a wireless connection with a poor signal
#1320 [07:09] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: can you trigger the factoid for deleting .minecraft at s0nny?
#1321 [07:09] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I dunno
#1322 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1323 [07:09] <s0nny> i'm on a wired connection so don't think it's that... i'll try checking my avg settings
#1324 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> s0nny - What operating system are you on?
#1325 [07:10] <s0nny> vista
#1326 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> ??> s0nny win/reinst
#1327 [07:10] <VoxelHead> s0nny: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1328 [07:10] <VoxelHead> s0nny: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1329 [07:10] <s0nny> k cheers i'll try ^^
#1330 [07:10] * GreyVulpine needs coffee.. be back in a sec
#1330 [07:10] <mib_wzjh7k> could someone please help me? i only bought this game fer online and it wont lemme play... its defo my account... works fine on my frineds account
#1331 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - Try the server, s.nerd.nu in your minecraft client
#1332 [07:11] <mib_wzjh7k> um... im not good with computer gizmos... english please ? :D
#1333 [07:12] <mib_wzjh7k> what is a minecraft client?
#1334 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> The program you launch to play minecraft
#1335 [07:13] <mib_wzjh7k> so what do i do? type: s.nerd.nu: in the "enter ip" section?
#1336 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1337 [07:13] <mib_wzjh7k> that workedd...
#1338 [07:14] <mib_wzjh7k> no it didnt..
#1339 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the server that you played on before, has a bad file associated with your account. If you can, you need to contact the person that runs that server to delete it for you
#1340 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> It didn't?
#1341 [07:14] <mib_wzjh7k> it loaded and i could walk about fer a bit... but then it said END OF STREAM
#1342 [07:15] <mib_wzjh7k> thats the same with just about every other ip address
#1343 [07:15] <ManBearPig> It's the server's problem
#1344 [07:15] <ManBearPig> oh, hm
#1345 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a local problem, possibly the network card or a security software
#1346 [07:15] <mib_wzjh7k> but it worked on my friends account?
#1347 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> On the same computer?
#1348 [07:16] <mib_wzjh7k> yeah same connection, everthign
#1349 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> That's a little baffling. There's really nothing tying your specific account across servers, save for skins.
#1350 [07:17] <mib_wzjh7k> can u go on my account and see whats haappening?
#1351 [07:17] <s0nny> woot^ disabled avg and worked fine, ta for advice people ^^
#1352 [07:17] <mib_wzjh7k> ill give the details and stuff somewhere private
#1353 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I do not work for mojang, nor does anybody here.
#1354 [07:17] <mib_wzjh7k> sonny is that for me?
#1355 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> s0nny - Glad to hear it.
#1356 [07:18] <mib_wzjh7k> oh... coulkd u just see whats happening tho? cause mojang are a plie of crap when it comes to conntacting them..
#1357 [07:18] <s0nny> sorry mibs no. i've had end of stream messages before... are you sure you have the ip/port ompletely correct?
#1358 [07:18] <mib_wzjh7k> yeah cause the server works 50% of the time
#1359 [07:19] <mib_wzjh7k> it lets me play for about... 10 mins.... then END OF STREAM or java.socket exception comes up and i have to relog
#1360 [07:20] <s0nny> sounds like a host problem or something... or your internet connection
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#1363 [07:20] <mib_wzjh7k> but it worked on my friends account!!
#1364 [07:21] <mib_wzjh7k> is there any way i can contact mojang?
#1365 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - With support@mojang.com
#1366 [07:21] <mib_wzjh7k> but they wont reply to random sobs stories by email... can i call them?
#1367 [07:22] <mib_wzjh7k> ooh the server's working fine now..
#1368 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_wzjh7k - Um, you don't want to call mojang, they're located in sweden.
#1369 [07:23] <mib_wzjh7k> ah...
#1370 [07:24] <amplifier> Aweosemeness
#1371 [07:24] <amplifier> xD
#1372 [07:25] <mib_sdfgvu> so then with my problem
#1373 [07:25] <mib_wzjh7k> thats a shame... guess my minecraft accoiunts gonna be as crappy as ever... ;"/
#1374 [07:25] <mib_sdfgvu> i log onto my online account,i have a mac, now as for the problem, you can see my avatars out line but the rest is black, the screen is solid gray, but you cam see the tool bar no problem,
#1375 [07:26] <mib_sdfgvu> what do i do?
#1376 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_sdfgvu mac/reinst
#1377 [07:26] <VoxelHead> mib_sdfgvu: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1378 [07:26] <VoxelHead> mib_sdfgvu: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1379 [07:27] <mib_sdfgvu> ok thanks
#1380 [07:27] <amplifier> whew, those help quotes are nice
#1381 [07:27] <amplifier> who made that?
#1382 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Dopeghoti made the bot, all the ops and helpers contributed to it
#1383 [07:28] <amplifier> do you know all the commands for it?
#1384 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Most of them, yes.
#1385 [07:28] <amplifier> xD
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#1387 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> All the commands are listed at:
#1388 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? index
#1389 [07:28] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries.
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#1391 [07:28] <amplifier> what was my next question, thx :3
#1392 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> At least, the FAQ entries are
#1393 [07:29] <mib_wzjh7k> annnnd its crshed ... AGAIN...
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#1396 [07:33] <Awesomeness> Vulpine
#1397 [07:33] <Awesomeness> I'm back!
#1398 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#1399 [07:33] <Awesomeness> ? :(
#1400 [07:34] <kendle> why does minecraft keep crashing when i load it now after update 1.6.6
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#1405 [07:48] <tuga> sorry, just created my account on Beta. logged in and got 'Minecraft Beta' on top of grey background -- nothing else. how do I get started ?
#1406 [07:48] <Awesomeness> Screenshot, please
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#1408 [07:49] <tuga> http://mibpaste.com/9wrDXy
#1409 [07:50] <Awesomeness> I don't see anything
#1410 [07:50] <Awesomeness> please use imageshack.us
#1411 [07:51] <mib_1234> tuga: What were you trying to paste?
#1412 [07:51] <mib_1234> An image or text?
#1413 [07:51] <mib_1234> For text use pastebin.com and for images I suggest imgur.com
#1414 [07:52] <amplifier> <Awesomeness> please use imageshack.us
#1415 [07:52] <Awesomeness> imgur.com makes the images very low quality.
#1416 [07:52] <Awesomeness> Sorry, I don't wanna struggle looking at the image. :)
#1417 [07:52] <mib_1234> Awesomeness: Uuh, no?
#1418 [07:52] <Awesomeness> Uuh, yes
#1419 [07:52] <Awesomeness> Imageshack does not resize them/change anything
#1420 [07:52] <Awesomeness> keeps them in original format.
#1421 [07:54] <mib_1234> Awesomeness: Take this image for example: http://i.imgur.com/KE9Ie.jpg Not resized at all, right? ;)
#1422 [07:54] <Awesomeness> Resized - no, but if you look at address bar, you can kinda see pixels
#1423 [07:54] <Awesomeness> Imageshack keeps them in original format.
#1424 [07:54] <Awesomeness> imgur makes the quality lower.
#1425 [07:55] <mib_1234> If you say so.
#1426 [07:55] <mib_1234> Anyway, not my business. ;)
#1427 [07:55] <mib_1234> Gotta go, cya.
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#1429 [07:56] <amplifier> [troll] looks quite blurry to me [/troll]
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#1433 [08:03] <tuga> sorry, slow server -- uploaded screen shot to http://img862.imageshack.us/i/minecraftblank.jpg/
#1434 [08:04] <Awesomeness> 1) Make screenshot bigger
#1435 [08:04] <Awesomeness> 2) Have you paid for minecraft?
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#1437 [08:09] <komorra> any one would to test server written by me?
#1438 [08:09] <komorra> via hamachi
#1439 [08:10] <tuga> bigger http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/minecraftblank.jpg/
#1440 [08:12] <tuga> of course i paid. trying to play in web browser .....
#1441 [08:12] <Awesomeness> !Paid Serpant_Slayer
#1442 [08:12] <Awesomeness> Oh, really?
#1443 [08:12] <Awesomeness> oh wait
#1444 [08:12] <Awesomeness> !Paid Serpent_Slayer
#1445 [08:12] <Awesomeness> my bad, sorry. :D
#1446 [08:13] <Awesomeness> Sorry, but have you tried the .exe downloadable version?
#1447 [08:16] <tuga> no, not yet. don't want to on this computer but it's what's available to use. thought the web version would work.
#1448 [08:17] <Awesomeness> You have Java?
#1449 [08:19] <amplifier> isn't the web version the same, just with the difference that it renders under firefox?
#1450 [08:24] <tuga> firefox - blank. explorer gives 'failed to launch'
#1451 [08:25] <tuga> yes, updated java when registered last night
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#1456 [08:37] <Sluyter548> hi guys.. been here several times now but the problem is still not fixed.. everytime i run minecraft it's updating and deleting all maps with it, i already run as administrator, i have windows 7 and reïnstalled the game several times now
#1457 [08:37] <OODavo> Sluyter548: Why are you running as administrator?
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#1460 [08:39] <zouhair> Hi, I can't remember where I saw that mod that create a servers lists where you can choose which server to log in and add new ones
#1461 [08:39] <zouhair> anyone have any idea?
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#1464 [08:41] <zippity> it says i've downloaded the game but when i go to log in it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" what am i doing wrong.. i just bought the game too.
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#1466 [08:43] <Yud_Zroc> , ok after a few updates i cannot even connect to my server, (yes ports are forwarded) i cant even connect via localhost
#1467 [08:44] <Yud_Zroc> any tips
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#1469 [08:45] <quiggle> !paid Awesomeness
#1470 [08:46] <quiggle> awww...
#1471 [08:46] <Yud_Zroc> ?
#1472 [08:46] <quiggle> he hasnt paid lol!
#1473 [08:47] <Yud_Zroc> !paid Yudraciell
#1474 [08:47] <quiggle> !paid quiggle
#1475 [08:47] <quiggle> lolz quiggle was a random name :D
#1476 [08:47] <Yud_Zroc> a very random, but unique, anyways is anyone available to help me with my issue
#1477 [08:48] <quiggle> whats your problem?
#1478 [08:48] <Awesomeness> lol!!!!!!!!
#1479 [08:48] <Yud_Zroc> cant connect to my server....used to be able to before all the updates and issues, but not i cant....not even localhost works
#1480 [08:48] <Awesomeness> You are so smart, you couldn't think that maybe this is not my ingame name.
#1481 [08:48] <Awesomeness> And stop spamming !paid
#1482 [08:48] <quiggle> only done it 2 times
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#1484 [08:49] <Awesomeness> 3 times.
#1485 [08:49] <Awesomeness> So stop.
#1486 [08:49] <Awesomeness> You don't need to do it.
#1487 [08:49] <lordmackery> hello
#1488 [08:49] <Awesomeness> Hey
#1489 [08:49] <quiggle> and i cant guess your accname @ minecraft
#1490 [08:49] <lordmackery> i just bought and downloaded minecraft
#1491 [08:49] <quiggle> btw 2 times
#1492 [08:49] <quiggle> 1 time was Yud_Zroc
#1493 [08:49] <lordmackery> but it doesnt load up and instead after logging in
#1494 [08:49] <lordmackery> theres a black screen
#1495 [08:49] <Awesomeness> What's the username you use
#1496 [08:49] <Awesomeness> to login?
#1497 [08:49] <lordmackery> lordmackery
#1498 [08:49] <Awesomeness> !Paid Lordmackery
#1499 [08:49] <quiggle> lets paidcheck!
#1500 [08:50] <Awesomeness> Okay
#1501 [08:50] <Awesomeness> Now, what I want you to do
#1502 [08:50] <Awesomeness> is
#1503 [08:50] <Awesomeness> tell me what operating system you are using
#1504 [08:50] <lordmackery> windows 7
#1505 [08:50] <Awesomeness> okay
#1506 [08:50] <Awesomeness> please do the following stpes
#1507 [08:50] <Awesomeness> *steps
#1508 [08:50] <Awesomeness> ??> lordmackery win/reinst
#1509 [08:50] <VoxelHead> lordmackery: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1510 [08:50] <VoxelHead> lordmackery: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1511 [08:51] <Yud_Zroc> also make sure your using jre1.6
#1512 [08:51] <lordmackery> should i force update?
#1513 [08:51] <Awesomeness> No, just do the following steps
#1514 [08:52] <lordmackery> i did those steps and logged in and theres still a black screen
#1515 [08:52] <Awesomeness> Okay, please do a complete uninstall of Java
#1516 [08:52] <Yud_Zroc> na, forceupdate just makes sure if it isnt updating on its own, if a file is corrupt and needs to be re-downloaded the app data needs to be redownloaded and installed for safe messures
#1517 [08:52] <Sluyter548> everytime i run minecraft it's updating and deleting all maps with it, i already run as administrator, i have windows 7 and reïnstalled the game several times now. what do i do?
#1518 [08:52] <Awesomeness> http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1519 [08:53] <Awesomeness> Sluyter548; please wait, I'm helpign lordmackery right now.
#1520 [08:53] <Sluyter548> okay
#1521 [08:53] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: you should not need to run as admin
#1522 [08:53] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; somebody told me that i had too, but without it it does the same updating over and over again :(
#1523 [08:53] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: is it single player
#1524 [08:54] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; yes
#1525 [08:54] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; it happens when i start the game, and my single player maps get deleted
#1526 [08:55] <Yud_Zroc> but it does not load them?
#1527 [08:55] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; you mean that minecraft does not load the maps? the maps are actually bing deleted, they are not in the .minecraft/saves
#1528 [08:55] <Awesomeness> Sluyster
#1529 [08:55] <Awesomeness> what's your minecraft username?
#1530 [08:55] <Sluyter548> yeS?
#1531 [08:55] <Sluyter548> Sluyter548
#1532 [08:55] <Awesomeness> !Paid Sluyster548
#1533 [08:56] <Sluyter548> Not?
#1534 [08:56] <Sluyter548> :o
#1535 [08:56] <lordmackery> Okay I've uninstalled jaa
#1536 [08:56] <Awesomeness> Oh wait
#1537 [08:56] <lordmackery> java*
#1538 [08:56] <Awesomeness> !Paid Slyter548
#1539 [08:56] <Sluyter548> you typed wrong :P
#1540 [08:56] <Awesomeness> ... I know
#1541 [08:56] <Awesomeness> I haven't slept for 50 hours
#1542 [08:56] <Awesomeness> lol
#1543 [08:56] <Sluyter548> oh lol
#1544 [08:56] <Awesomeness> !Paid Sluyter548
#1545 [08:56] <Sluyter548> tadaaah xD
#1546 [08:56] <Awesomeness> Okay, uh, have you ever 'tried' minecraft?
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#1548 [08:57] <zouhair> !paid poboxy
#1549 [08:57] <Sluyter548> yes, i played from beta
#1550 [08:57] <zouhair> hmm
#1551 [08:57] <zouhair> !paid zzaken
#1552 [08:57] <lordmackery> ive uninstalled java what do i do now
#1553 [08:57] <Sluyter548> having problems with 1.6.3 and further though
#1554 [08:57] <Awesomeness> Lordmackery: now install java using this link http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#1555 [08:57] <Yud_Zroc> lordmackery: reinstall the latest java
#1556 [08:57] <Yud_Zroc> it is at 1.6.6
#1557 [08:57] <Awesomeness> If that link does not work, use this one; http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1558 [08:58] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; i know. i downloaded the updates all, but every time it starts downloading 1.6.6 again
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#1560 [08:58] <Yud_Zroc> hm, wierd the updates shouldnt clean your worlds directory
#1561 [08:58] <Awesomeness> Reinstall Minecraft
#1562 [08:59] <Awesomeness> ??> Sluyter548 win/reinst
#1563 [08:59] <VoxelHead> Sluyter548: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1564 [08:59] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; neither should i have to download the same update every time i restart minecraft
#1565 [08:59] <VoxelHead> Sluyter548: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1566 [08:59] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: and also make sure your running the latest version of java
#1567 [08:59] <Sluyter548> i already did that like 4 times?
#1568 [08:59] <Sluyter548> whats the latest version?
#1569 [08:59] <Awesomeness> 25
#1570 [08:59] <Awesomeness> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#1571 [09:00] <Sluyter548> where to download? :)
#1572 [09:00] <Awesomeness> Use that
#1573 [09:00] <Awesomeness> But first
#1574 [09:00] <Sluyter548> k thanks
#1575 [09:00] <Aekilon> pixel format not accelerated?
#1576 [09:00] <Awesomeness> Remove java completely
#1577 [09:00] <Sluyter548> updating now
#1578 [09:00] <Yud_Zroc> ya and make sure you using the version for your system....lol i made the mistake and used a 32bit version....doesnt work well on a 64bit system
#1579 [09:00] <Sluyter548> if irst have to remove before updating?
#1580 [09:00] <Awesomeness> Yes
#1581 [09:00] <Yud_Zroc> yes
#1582 [09:00] <lordmackery> I installed the latest java
#1583 [09:00] <Yud_Zroc> complete removal
#1584 [09:00] <Sluyter548> okay
#1585 [09:01] <Awesomeness> Lord, try to see if your problem is fixed now
#1586 [09:01] <lordmackery> should i try running it again?
#1587 [09:01] <Sluyter548> i got version 24 lol
#1588 [09:01] <Awesomeness> Try running Minecraft and see if it's fixed.
#1589 [09:01] <lordmackery> no it's still a black screen
#1590 [09:01] <Yud_Zroc> what gfx card are you using
#1591 [09:02] <Awesomeness> Lordmackery, do a DxDiag please
#1592 [09:02] <lordmackery> what's that?
#1593 [09:02] <Awesomeness> ??> lordmackery win/dxdiag
#1594 [09:02] <VoxelHead> lordmackery: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1595 [09:02] <VoxelHead> lordmackery: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1596 [09:04] <lordmackery> http://pastebin.com/kfzKzkQh
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#1598 [09:05] <Sluyter548> i am back again
#1599 [09:05] <Sluyter548> updated java now
#1600 [09:06] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: try again and let up know the results
#1601 [09:06] <Yud_Zroc> us*
#1602 [09:07] <lordmackery> what do i do now?
#1603 [09:07] <Yud_Zroc> lordmackery: is that a laptop?
#1604 [09:07] <lordmackery> no
#1605 [09:07] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc; it works now but the problem in most cases needed an hour or 2, so i'll be back then and show you the results ok?
#1606 [09:08] <Yud_Zroc> ok gl
#1607 [09:08] <Yud_Zroc> lordmackery: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
#1608 [09:08] <Yud_Zroc> chances are you dont have this driver....it was released today lol
#1609 [09:09] <lordmackery> should i download it?
#1610 [09:09] <Yud_Zroc> yes
#1611 [09:09] <Yud_Zroc> always keep your gfx card drivers uptodate....well, any driver up-to-date
#1612 [09:10] <oldtopmanserver> !check 207.224.61.113
#1613 [09:10] <Yud_Zroc> speaking of server issues, im still having isses with mine
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#1615 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - What's the issue?
#1616 [09:10] <Yud_Zroc> i cant connect......even with local host
#1617 [09:10] <Yud_Zroc> connection timed out
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#1619 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com the server.log?
#1620 [09:11] <Yud_Zroc> 1 moment, just retrying with a java reinstall
#1621 [09:12] <Yud_Zroc> nvm, im just a idiot who cant follow his own advice lol
#1622 [09:12] <Yud_Zroc> just a java issue
#1623 [09:12] <lordmackery> after i install this driver should i retry minecraft?
#1624 [09:12] <Yud_Zroc> restart the computer than try it
#1625 [09:13] <Yud_Zroc> some files need to finish installing and removing...but your still using them lol
#1626 [09:13] <lordmackery> kk
#1627 [09:13] <lordmackery> thanks for your help
#1628 [09:13] <Yud_Zroc> np let us know the results
#1629 [09:17] <Vivek> greyvulpine, i beleive you had some ideas for my ati java problem yesterday?
#1630 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, um, yeah
#1631 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20037/a08/Win7Vista_64_15221.exe
#1632 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19982/a08/Win7Vista_64_152113.zip
#1633 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> And if that doesn't work.. ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp52001-52500/sp52193.exe
#1634 [09:17] <Yud_Zroc> Grey
#1635 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#1638 [09:18] <Yud_Zroc> now i cannot connect via external ip....yes my port is forwarded....the only thing that has changed is server data
#1639 [09:18] <Awesomeness> Hey Grey
#1640 [09:18] <Yud_Zroc> and the port is set up in the server.properties file
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#1642 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - And server-ip is blank, correct?
#1643 [09:18] <Vivek> lol ok ill try them, i see youve been busy :D
#1644 [09:18] <Yud_Zroc> correct
#1645 [09:19] <Yud_Zroc> great...now i cant connect localhost again >.<
#1646 [09:19] <Vivek> are they all drivers? the file sizes seem to be quite large?
#1647 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Show me your port forwarding? Can you screenshot your computer's ip, as well as your router's port forwarding
#1648 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Yes
#1649 [09:19] <Vivek> ok
#1650 [09:19] * lordmackery [lordmackery@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1651 [09:20] <lordmackery> it works now
#1652 [09:20] <lordmackery> thankyou very much
#1653 [09:20] <Awesomeness> Grey? :(
#1654 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1655 [09:21] <Awesomeness> Hey! :D Can you tell me how to setup a irc channel to invite only, and the command for invite?
#1656 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> /mode #channelname +i
#1657 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> and it's just /invite name
#1658 [09:21] <Awesomeness> Thank you
#1659 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> er
#1660 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> /invite #channelname name I blieve
#1661 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> believe*
#1662 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Either one, I don't exactly remember
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#1664 [09:23] <Awesomeness> Did you receive a invite?
#1665 [09:23] <Yud_Zroc> http://pastebin.com/wUYdiBWk
#1666 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#1667 [09:23] <CaptainHelion> Minecraft keeps crashing on me, before I can even load up a world.
#1668 [09:23] <Yud_Zroc> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/internalip.png/
#1669 [09:23] <Awesomeness> Huh..
#1670 [09:23] <Yud_Zroc> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/portforwardg.png/
#1671 [09:24] <Yud_Zroc> grey them are the 3 links
#1672 [09:24] <Yud_Zroc> for my IP, port forwarding and server properties
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#1674 [09:24] <aikaramba> creepers can climb stairs!
#1675 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Can I get a screenshot of the status page on your linksys as well?
#1676 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> linksys doesn't normally use 192.168.0.x addresses.. unless.
#1677 [09:26] <Yud_Zroc> i changed it a while ago
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#1679 [09:26] <Yud_Zroc> it was 192.168.1.1
#1680 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> So the public ip address listed in the status page is a public one, yes?
#1681 [09:26] <Vivek> the first driver said: the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer manufacturer. setup will exit. ill try the next one
#1682 [09:27] <Yud_Zroc> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/linksysstatus.png/
#1683 [09:28] <Yud_Zroc> grey what do you mean, my gateway address is 192.168.0.1 my internal ip is 192.168.0.101
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#1685 [09:29] <zouhair> CaptainHelion: it's hard for people to help if you don't say what version of minecraft you are using, what java version what system and so on and so forth, no one can just guess this information and it's a hassle to write what I'm writing
#1686 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Never mind.
#1687 [09:30] <sharp> hello when i try to get on to my server it says this in the server log:[WARNING] Failed to handle packet: java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at dj.a(SourceFile:307) at ek.a(SourceFile:370) at lm.e(SourceFile:810) at do.b(SourceFile:183) at fa.b(SourceFile:92) at ec.b(SourceFile:119) at ec.a(SourceFile:50) at cs.a(SourceFile:
#1688 [09:31] <sharp> can you help
#1689 [09:31] <_303> ?? pastebin
#1690 [09:31] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1691 [09:31] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1692 [09:31] <sharp> ok
#1693 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Windows firewall off or set up to allow 8001? (start -> "Firewall.cpl" in search bar)
#1694 [09:31] <sharp> http://mibpaste.com/4GYX8V
#1695 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> sharp - Try renaming the /world/ directory to something else, and regenning the world
#1696 [09:32] <sharp> ok
#1697 [09:32] <Yud_Zroc> minecraft is allowed
#1698 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - And you can't connect to localhost?
#1699 [09:32] <Yud_Zroc> nope
#1700 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Strange, any other security software on your computer?
#1701 [09:33] <Yud_Zroc> Failed to connect to server, Connection refused connect
#1702 [09:33] <Yud_Zroc> no, i dont use anything, never needed to
#1703 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Are you connecting with localhost:8001?
#1704 [09:33] <sharp> no that did not work
#1705 [09:34] <Yud_Zroc> no, just localhost
#1706 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> localhost is connecting to port 25565
#1707 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> You changed it from default to 8001
#1708 [09:34] <Sluyter548> well, i am already back. i just launched minecraft and it updated again, deleting all my maps :(
#1709 [09:34] <Yud_Zroc> yup, and i can connect >.<
#1710 [09:35] <Yud_Zroc> i used to be able to just do localhost and that was all
#1711 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - If you change your port settings back to 25565, it'll work with just 'localhost'
#1712 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - That is.. unusual to say the least. Do you have any sort of frequent backup program running in the background?
#1713 [09:36] <Yud_Zroc> i still cant connect with my external ip
#1714 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Your public ip:8001?
#1715 [09:36] <Yud_Zroc> correct
#1716 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Have you ever been able to connect with it?
#1717 [09:36] <Sluyter548> GreyVulpine; what is considered to be a backup program?
#1718 [09:37] <Yud_Zroc> yup, it started happening after 1.6.x
#1719 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - There's a ton of them, I wouldn't begin to know where to start.
#1720 [09:37] <Yud_Zroc> actually...1.6.5
#1721 [09:37] <Yud_Zroc> and now im running 1.6.6 and im still having an issues
#1722 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> !check 72.74.100.231
#1723 [09:38] * mib_0nfb4y [mib_0nfb4y@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1724 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Your port forwarding looks fine to me. You are letting in port 8001 over windows firewall, correct?
#1725 [09:38] <Sluyter548> Greyvulpine; but you mean just programs that run in tha back? like chrome, tweetdeck and msn?
#1726 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - I don't know what programs you're running in the background
#1727 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any sort of hard drive mirroring or recovery software?
#1728 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Are you RAIDing your hard drives at all?
#1729 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any sort of data prevention or backup programs?
#1730 [09:39] <xolotl> Sluyter548: Do you mean maps as in craftable maps, in-game?
#1731 [09:39] <Vivek> um, with the second driver, it just gives me the same message as before, but before it starts installing instead of after. on to the third one i guess
#1732 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any sort of program that makes a daily backup of your files?
#1733 [09:39] <Sluyter548> xolotl; no just the maps you load when you start a game
#1734 [09:39] <xolotl> kk
#1735 [09:40] <xolotl> (the confusion!)
#1736 [09:40] <Sluyter548> Greyvulpine; i just named then :D
#1737 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> xolotl - His /saves/ disappear, which is what's confusing
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#1739 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> updating minecraft shouldn't even touch /saves/
#1740 [09:40] <semiricary> helllo
#1741 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1742 [09:40] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: i have the file/app set for allow all, but i dont know how to set up an exact port on windows, i dont get why this happened it used to work fine
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#1744 [09:40] <Yud_Zroc> wait a sec
#1745 [09:40] <Yud_Zroc> bed sectors
#1746 [09:40] <Yud_Zroc> bad*
#1747 [09:40] <Yud_Zroc> check for them
#1748 [09:41] <Sluyter548> greyvulpine; i know, it didnt until 1.6.3 then i could still play normallly, now i have to start a new map over and over again
#1749 [09:41] <Yud_Zroc> if your harddrive is writing to a bad area it just isnt saving them, and instead just having them loaded into local memory
#1750 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Go to your start menu, type in the search bar: "firewall.fpl"
#1751 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> er cpl
#1752 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> In the upper left, there should be an advanced settings
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#1754 [09:41] <Cam> I keep trying to run minecraft but it says BadVideo Card Drivers, and someone help me
#1755 [09:41] <semiricary> i need helping running minecraft theres one world that when i enter it crashes
#1756 [09:41] <HotDang> Hey this the site for admins?
#1757 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up the firewall control panel, you'll need to hit up the upper left side for inbound rules Yud_Zroc, then new rule in the upper right
#1758 [09:42] <eternalSeptember> HotDang: admins and users alike
#1759 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Cam - You'll need to update your video drivers
#1760 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Does it generate any error reports?
#1761 [09:42] <Cam> I tried that
#1762 [09:42] <Sluyter548> Yud?Zroc+ what do you think i will have to do to stop this=
#1763 [09:42] <HotDang> or with admins in it, anyhow, every time i play the game, it says i have been logged on to another pc wich is impossible since i only have it here, and its my account so whats going on
#1764 [09:42] <semiricary> yes
#1765 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Cam - How did you do it?
#1766 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Could you please copy one error report, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#1767 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> then give us the URL
#1768 [09:43] <semiricary> k
#1769 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> HotDang - It happens, don't worry about it
#1770 [09:43] <HotDang> so no big deal?
#1771 [09:43] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: plz scan your system for spyware and viruses, it really is weird....
#1772 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> HotDang - I think Notch's detection algorithm needs tweaking
#1773 [09:43] <semiricary> http://pastebin.com/m5KpXbBB
#1774 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> HotDang - It's no big deal
#1775 [09:43] <Yud_Zroc> and then run a S.M.A.R.T. check on your harddrive
#1776 [09:43] <HotDang> Kewl thanx a Bundle!!!
#1777 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> ??> semiricary win/reinst
#1778 [09:43] <VoxelHead> semiricary: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1779 [09:43] <VoxelHead> semiricary: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1781 [09:43] <semiricary> win
#1782 [09:44] <Sluyter548> Yud_Zroc i have doen that, even done any updates for my drivers, windows updates and all
#1783 [09:44] <Cam> hang on i'll tell ya
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#1785 [09:44] <oldtopmanserver> GreyVulpine: What did youo program GreyBot in?
#1786 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - Have you done a scandisk utility in windows?
#1787 [09:44] <Yud_Zroc> Sluyter548: you have done the S.M.A.R.T. check?
#1788 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> oldtopmanserver - Greybot's an old mIRC bot, way before I learned how to program
#1789 [09:44] <mib_c7346y> hi
#1790 [09:44] <Sluyter548> for both i dont know what it is xD
#1791 [09:45] <oldtopmanserver> ah
#1792 [09:45] <Yud_Zroc> it scanns your harddrive for errors
#1793 [09:45] <Sluyter548> and where to run it?
#1794 [09:46] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: still no connection
#1795 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Did you allow port 8001 through the firewall wizard?
#1796 [09:46] <Yud_Zroc> yes
#1797 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1798 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> TCP, correct?
#1799 [09:46] <Yud_Zroc> yup
#1800 [09:47] <Yud_Zroc> do you think notch changed something that made it so that i can only connect from local host
#1801 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Nope, it's gotta be something with your network
#1802 [09:47] <Yud_Zroc> and cannot run it from external ip
#1803 [09:47] <Yud_Zroc> weird...i havnt chnaged anything in like 3 months
#1804 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Either something on your network is not configured properly, or your ISP changed something on you
#1805 [09:47] <semiricary> umm yeah it stills crashes when i enter the world
#1806 [09:48] <Cam> Start > Run > I typed in devmgmt.msc > I went to display adapters > Right clicked one of them (there were two) > Went to properties> Went to driver > And hit update driver. It came back and said wizard found nothing to update
#1807 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Can you try a new world entirely
#1808 [09:48] <semiricary> k
#1809 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Windows Update never updates the latest drivers
#1810 [09:48] <Cam> So what should I do
#1811 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Cam - You always want to either check the computer manufacturer's website, or the video card manufacturer's website
#1812 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> While you were at display adapters, did you catch what the video card's name was?
#1813 [09:49] <Cam> Hold on let me check
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#1815 [09:50] <semiricary> the new world works fine
#1816 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - I'm just curious, does http://10.9.50.1 do anything for you?
#1817 [09:50] <Vivek> um, grey i got the same error message for all three drivers
#1818 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Then it looks like your world is corrupt.
#1819 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - #$#*@
#1820 [09:50] <Vivek> yeah
#1821 [09:50] <semiricary> how does a world become corrupt ?
#1822 [09:50] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: it says page cannot be found
#1823 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - There's really no one reason. It happens.
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#1825 [09:51] <Yud_Zroc> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 10.9.50.1.
#1826 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first to experience it..
#1827 [09:51] <semiricary> ohh okay
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#1829 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Hmm, alright
#1830 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> It's just that your linksys router is saying your default gateway is 10.9.50.1
#1831 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> The Class A 10./8 addresses are all private.
#1832 [09:52] <Cam> There was two, one was: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family and the other one was the same name
#1833 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Laptop?
#1834 [09:52] <Cam> No PC
#1835 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Could you go to: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1836 [09:53] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: thats my modem
#1837 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> And run Intel's driver update utility
#1838 [09:53] <Cam> I'll try
#1839 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Ah, okay, nothing special with it?
#1840 [09:54] <Yud_Zroc> nope, its in bridge mode
#1841 [09:54] <Yud_Zroc> had to fight with my isp just to get full control over it
#1842 [09:55] <Yud_Zroc> tech support....need i say more lol
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#1844 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> I completely understand
#1845 [09:55] <Cam> I went and hit check for latest updates, was that right?
#1846 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Yes
#1847 [09:55] <Cam> Ok it's working on it
#1848 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Cam - You're specifically looking to see if there's any graphics or video driver updates for your intel card
#1849 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - You don't have any other port forwarding settings in the other pages of your linksys router, right?
#1850 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Nothing set up so it points elsewhere?
#1851 [09:57] <Yud_Zroc> nothing thats active
#1852 [09:58] <Yud_Zroc> the only thing set to allow is that
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#1854 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Nothing jumps out at me here. Your port forwarding looks solid, you said you're not running any other security software, winows firewall is set up
#1855 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> You can connect via localhost..
#1856 [09:59] <Yud_Zroc> i really beleive its gona be something with the MC server data, because it worked fine with no settings changed, 1.4-1.5 worked fine, 1.6.x gave me issues
#1857 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose your ISP is doing anything screwy.
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#1859 [10:01] <Cam> Now it's giving me choices Graphics Driver, Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility (Chipset INF), Audio Driver for Intel Desktop Board, Wireless Networking (WiFi), and Wired Networking. WHich one do I click
#1860 [10:01] <jasper> anyone here?
#1861 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Graphics Driver
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#1863 [10:01] <Cam> Hit download now?
#1864 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Yes
#1865 [10:02] <Yud_Zroc_> i changed a setting
#1866 [10:02] <Guest9223> i need some help
#1867 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Guest9223 - With?
#1868 [10:02] <Yud_Zroc_> lets see what happens
#1869 [10:02] <Guest9223> can i use a gift code i bought for myself?
#1870 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Guest9223 - Sure, just redeem it at http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#1871 [10:02] <Cam> ok it's going to take about 21 minutes to download
#1872 [10:03] <Guest9223> ok, thanks for your support
#1873 [10:03] <Guest9223> bye
#1874 [10:03] <NinjaKirby> inb4 10053 Error
#1875 [10:04] <Cam> Should I save or Run the Application
#1876 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Run it
#1877 [10:05] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: i tried disabling SPI firewall protection, but that didnt work
#1878 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um, one moment
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#1880 [10:05] <wout> hi all
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#1884 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Yeah, I can't connect to you either.
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#1886 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - I'm baffled.
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#1888 [10:08] <Yud_Zroc> server is off atm lol
#1889 [10:08] <Yud_Zroc> 1 moment
#1890 [10:08] <Yud_Zroc> give it ago
#1891 [10:08] <Cam> I hit run and it came up a big box then I clicked next and now it says, The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are attempting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy of the file, verify its integrity, and try again
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#1893 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Still nothing
#1894 [10:10] <Yud_Zroc> nothing on my log either...its not even getting through....
#1895 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Cam - What operating system are you on?
#1896 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - You're still running on port 8001, yes?
#1897 [10:10] <Yud_Zroc> correct
#1898 [10:10] <Cam> I don't mean to sound dumb but what is an operating system
#1899 [10:11] <Tanjoodo_iPod> GreyVulpine is busy :D
#1900 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm not getting anything Yud_Zroc
#1901 [10:11] <Yud_Zroc> windows, linux, macos
#1902 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Windows?
#1903 [10:11] <Yud_Zroc> the program used to run your hardware from the ground up
#1904 [10:11] <Cam> YeS Windows
#1905 [10:11] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Macos, tacos :D
#1906 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Cam - What version of windows? XP? Vista? Win7?
#1907 [10:12] <Yud_Zroc> mac os
#1908 [10:12] <Cam> I'm not 100% percent sure but I think its Windows xp
#1909 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your start menu, right click on "My Computer" and go to properties
#1910 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you there
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#1912 [10:13] <Cam> Microsoft Windows XP
#1913 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Alright, try downloading this and running it:
#1914 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/12536/a08/win2k_xp142550.exe
#1915 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> It should be the direct link for your drivers
#1916 [10:14] <Awesomeness> I'm back
#1917 [10:14] <Awesomeness> Anyone needs help?
#1918 [10:14] <CaptainHelion> I could use some
#1919 [10:14] <Yud_Zroc> I have grey baffled lol
#1920 [10:15] <Awesomeness> Sure Captain
#1921 [10:15] <Awesomeness> what's up
#1922 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Just to be absolutely, 100% clear. You're running zero security software besides windows firewall?
#1923 [10:15] <wout> hence, zero security :)
#1924 [10:15] <Yud_Zroc> MS security essentials....
#1925 [10:15] <CaptainHelion> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, and Minecraft loads the client, logs me in, updates, and then crashed
#1926 [10:15] <CaptainHelion> *crashes
#1927 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> I think that's just an av, right?
#1928 [10:15] <Awesomeness> Ubuntu.. hmm
#1929 [10:15] <Awesomeness> Well, I don't use ubuntu
#1930 [10:15] <Yud_Zroc> i beleive so
#1931 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> CaptainHelion - Any error reports?
#1932 [10:16] <Awesomeness> But I'll tell you waht to do.
#1933 [10:16] <Yud_Zroc> ubuntu is myt expertise
#1934 [10:16] <wout> CaptainHelion did it ever run ok onthere ?
#1935 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Yeah, that wouldn't affect minecraft at all...
#1936 [10:16] <AuraxMark> Hello. I have a problem with running minecraft. When I click the application it says 'The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupt. The system cannot find the path specified'
#1937 [10:16] <CaptainHelion> It hasn't, no
#1938 [10:16] <Awesomeness> If it gives a error report - use www.pastebin.com to paste it there
#1939 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> AuraxMark - Completely uninstall java, and reinstall it from java.com
#1940 [10:16] <Yud_Zroc> do not use OpenJDK
#1941 [10:16] <Awesomeness> If not COMPLETELY uninstall Java
#1942 [10:16] <wout> output of # java -version ?
#1943 [10:16] <AuraxMark> I did
#1944 [10:16] <Cam> It's sayin I have to run something to get into it I hit run and it says the same thing as before
#1945 [10:16] <AuraxMark> twice
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#1947 [10:17] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: its a antiviruse and spyware tool
#1948 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Yud_Zroc - Yeah, that's what I thought.
#1949 [10:17] <Awesomeness> Microsoft essentials suck.
#1950 [10:17] <CaptainHelion> http://pastebin.com/XdjVgpmk the error report
#1951 [10:17] <Awesomeness> Get something else. ANYTHING.
#1952 [10:17] * GreyVulpine kicks Awesomeness
#1952 [10:17] * Awesomeness is kicked
#1952 [10:17] <Awesomeness> But, it does! D:
#1953 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> MSE is not that bad
#1954 [10:17] <wout> the only microsoft thing that doesn't completely suck is xbox :p
#1955 [10:17] <wout> hehehe
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#1957 [10:17] <Yud_Zroc> Awesomeness: i know...im alctually thinking of getting rid of it
#1958 [10:17] <semiricary> hello
#1959 [10:18] <Yud_Zroc> wout 12 systems in 6 months i beg to differ
#1960 [10:18] <semiricary> my game just told me it has run out of memory
#1961 [10:18] <wout> all xbox ? :D
#1962 [10:18] <Awesomeness> Okay uh, Captain, do you know what kind of graphics you have?
#1963 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Just restart the game
#1964 [10:18] <Yud_Zroc> yup
#1965 [10:18] <wout> eek.
#1966 [10:18] <CaptainHelion> beyond nvidea, not a clue
#1967 [10:18] <wout> ok, then it's really everything :)
#1968 [10:18] <semiricary> but how do i make it have more memory
#1969 [10:18] <Awesomeness> Okay, uhh
#1970 [10:19] <Awesomeness> ??> CaptainHelion ubuntu/dxdiag
#1971 [10:19] <Awesomeness> Damn it
#1972 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Buy more RAM for your computer.
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#1974 [10:19] <Yud_Zroc> i can help with uduntu
#1975 [10:19] <semiricary> its a brand new computer
#1976 [10:19] <Yud_Zroc> ubuntu*
#1977 [10:19] <Yud_Zroc> i use it all the time
#1978 [10:19] <Awesomeness> Does anyone know how to find out what graphics you have, in ubuntu?
#1979 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> lshw
#1980 [10:19] <Cam> GreyVulpine I tried going to the website and it said I have to run something I hit run and it says the samething as before
#1981 [10:19] <Awesomeness> lshw?
#1982 [10:19] * GreyVulpine nods at Awesomeness
#1982 [10:20] <Awesomeness> Okay, uh captain
#1983 [10:20] <wout> errm
#1984 [10:20] <Awesomeness> do something called lshw
#1985 [10:20] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1985 [10:20] <Awesomeness> LOL
#1986 [10:20] <wout> in windows I think you can set the heap size for java
#1987 [10:20] <Yud_Zroc> CaptainHelion: check for your restricked drivers
#1988 [10:20] <wout> so more memory would be available for mc
#1989 [10:21] <wout> but, as I'm not working atm, I don't have a windoze machine around
#1990 [10:21] <CaptainHelion> right, right
#1991 [10:21] <Awesomeness> Captain, after you're done, please tell me what GPU you have.
#1992 [10:21] <Yud_Zroc> also, caption are you using 11.04
#1993 [10:21] <Cam> GreyVulpine I tried going to the website and it said I have to run something I hit run and it says the samething as before
#1994 [10:21] <CaptainHelion> 10.10
#1995 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Cam - Can you use a different browser to download the drivers?
#1996 [10:22] <Yud_Zroc> in terminal type in lspci
#1997 [10:22] <Cam> Which browser
#1998 [10:22] <Yud_Zroc> that sill give you a full readout of your hardware
#1999 [10:22] <Yud_Zroc> will*
#2000 [10:23] <Yud_Zroc> pastebin the results for me ok CaptainHelion
#2001 [10:23] <CaptainHelion> GeoForce Go 7600
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#2003 [10:23] <Awesomeness> okay, wait.
#2004 [10:23] <Yud_Zroc> ok, use ubuntu resticted drivers for it
#2005 [10:23] <RichardG> 1.5_01 SMP all of a sudden started moving me without my consent - restarting didn't work, it's not the server, any ideas?
#2006 [10:23] <CaptainHelion> right, right
#2007 [10:24] <Yud_Zroc> what that does is gets it directly from sorse from nvidia
#2008 [10:24] <Cam> What browser should I use
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#2010 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> RichardG - Do you use Comcast?
#2011 [10:24] <Awesomeness> Okay, captain
#2012 [10:24] <Yud_Zroc> now are you using openjdk or the real java
#2013 [10:24] <Awesomeness> PLease download this
#2014 [10:24] <Awesomeness> http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.41.19/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.19.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
#2015 [10:24] <Awesomeness> Install it, tell me if your error is fixed then.
#2016 [10:24] <Yud_Zroc> Awesomeness: no
#2017 [10:24] <Awesomeness> What no?
#2018 [10:25] <Yud_Zroc> that has only an 80% chance of working
#2019 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Ubuntu has its own software repo
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#2021 [10:25] <Awesomeness> Oh
#2022 [10:25] <Awesomeness> Alright then.
#2023 [10:25] <Yud_Zroc> im using the one from ubuntu restricted extras and it works fine
#2024 [10:25] <CaptainHelion> I've downloaded/activated the restricted drivers
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#2026 [10:26] <Yud_Zroc> also you CANNOT use openJDK (the open sorceversion of java that ubuntu comes with) its rubbish and out of date
#2027 [10:26] <CaptainHelion> so I will need to make sure I have the real Java.
#2028 [10:26] <Yud_Zroc> correct
#2029 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> java -version
#2030 [10:26] <AuraxMark1> minecraft won't work, it says that it can't find java or the runtime is corrupt
#2031 [10:26] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: im not sure that will work with openJDK
#2032 [10:27] <Yud_Zroc> CaptainHelion: ill be back in 2 minutes, im rebooting into ubuntu to give you more information
#2033 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell him what version of java he has installed, whether it be openJDK or sun
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#2036 [10:28] <wout> yes, do get sun java
#2037 [10:28] <TheHawk> quick question
#2038 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> quick answer
#2039 [10:28] <CaptainHelion> I have Sun Java
#2040 [10:28] <TheHawk> how to update the server without loosing the current game
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#2042 [10:28] <Smileynator> Someone is sharp here *points at grey*
#2043 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> TheHawk - Just replace minecraft_server
#2044 [10:28] <TheHawk> i did, but all building s are gone
#2045 [10:28] <Smileynator> .exe*
#2046 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> If you don't touch /world/ it won't affect anything
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#2048 [10:29] <TheHawk> strange OK - buildings are gone, but all the resources are still there
#2049 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> TheHawk - That is strange, normally it doesn't do that
#2050 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> TheHawk - Happen to have the world backed up?
#2051 [10:29] <Awesomeness> Hey GreyVulpine
#2052 [10:29] <TheHawk> well no problem at all, the boys just need to build from scratch again - LOL
#2053 [10:29] <Smileynator> Maybe it's a spawn location reset or.. replaced?
#2054 [10:29] <Awesomeness> This guy xXBumPXx bought a key
#2055 [10:29] <Awesomeness> at some third party shop
#2056 [10:30] <Awesomeness> I don't know how to tell him this
#2057 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> We don't offer support for that
#2058 [10:30] <Awesomeness> you do it. :x
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#2060 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Point him to:
#2061 [10:30] <wout> lol Awesomeness
#2062 [10:30] <Awesomeness> I mean, he bought a minecraft key
#2063 [10:30] <TheHawk> and how to back up world ?
#2064 [10:30] <Yud_Zroc> ok im back and on ubuntu classic :D
#2065 [10:30] <Awesomeness> and uhh
#2066 [10:30] <Awesomeness> it doesn't work
#2067 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#2068 [10:30] <wout> painful :)
#2069 [10:30] <Smileynator> Dear xXBumPXx, You got ripped off. sorry.
#2070 [10:30] * GreyVulpine nods at Smileynator
#2070 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> We do not offer support for people who buy keys from non-official sources.
#2071 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> It's as simple as that
#2072 [10:31] <Smileynator> Do we have anyone here that has some, Redstone smarts? like a LOT of redstone smarts?
#2073 [10:31] <xXBumPXx> but
#2074 [10:31] <xXBumPXx> I've played on premium servers but today was my off premium
#2075 [10:31] <xXBumPXx> The Code works
#2076 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Smileynator - I'm fairly savvy with redstone
#2077 [10:31] <Yud_Zroc> redstone is your friend
#2078 [10:31] <Awesomeness> Chances are they gave you a cracked client.
#2079 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> xXBumPXx - Nothing stopping the person from reverting the sale of the code on their credit card
#2080 [10:31] <Yud_Zroc> CaptainHelion: are you still here
#2081 [10:31] <CaptainHelion> yes
#2082 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> xXBumPXx - Easy way to scam people
#2083 [10:32] <wout> if you get a key that says u607-R1PP3-D0FF-M873
#2084 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> xXBumPXx - Also happens very frequently
#2085 [10:32] <wout> reconsider :p
#2086 [10:32] <CaptainHelion> Waiting for you to pour out the milk of human kindness unto me
#2087 [10:32] <Awesomeness> Yeah, that, too.
#2088 [10:32] <Yud_Zroc> System > Admin > Symp package manager
#2089 [10:32] <Smileynator> Grey, I am pretty crafty. But i am attempting a display of 7 blocks high (1 block in between each pixel ofcourse) and with 3 inputs (3 bits) to actually trigger those in all possible variable positions.
#2090 [10:33] <CaptainHelion> opened
#2091 [10:33] <Smileynator> And i want to do this, keeping everything within 1 block .. like it can be infinite long and high but no more then 1 block in width
#2092 [10:33] <Yud_Zroc> search openjdk
#2093 [10:33] <Smileynator> so i can copy the exact same thing as many times as i want, to actually make it a longer display as i go.
#2094 [10:34] <CaptainHelion> yeah.
#2095 [10:34] <Smileynator> obviously this is easy with the 3rd dimention. But i think it's near impossible in the 2D part. I would like someone crafty to look at the problem T.T
#2096 [10:35] <Smileynator> Lol @ u607-R1PP3-D0FF-M873
#2097 [10:35] <Yud_Zroc> CaptainHelion: do you see a libary called default -jre
#2098 [10:35] <Yud_Zroc> and is the box checked/yello
#2099 [10:36] <CaptainHelion> yes I do, but it's not ticked
#2100 [10:36] <Yud_Zroc> tick it
#2101 [10:36] <Smileynator> u607-R1PP3-D0FF-M873 << Should be one of the menu yellow texts.
#2102 [10:36] <Yud_Zroc> accept all the added stuff
#2103 [10:36] <Yud_Zroc> then install it
#2104 [10:36] <Yud_Zroc> well, apply it lol
#2105 [10:38] <Yud_Zroc> try it and see if you are still having the error lemme know the results
#2106 [10:38] <CaptainHelion> will do
#2107 [10:40] <CaptainHelion> Right, I've made it to the Home screen
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#2109 [10:40] <Yud_Zroc> ok....could you not before?
#2110 [10:40] <CaptainHelion> it happened sporadically
#2111 [10:41] <CaptainHelion> Excellent. It appears to be working just fine
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#2113 [10:41] <Yud_Zroc> good to hear im glad i could help
#2114 [10:41] <Smileynator> Grey: No i need to draw you a diagram of my plan, in some way? xD
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#2116 [10:41] <benneh> anyone available to try help me?
#2117 [10:41] <Yud_Zroc> ya captain, for future reference....never use openjdk
#2118 [10:42] <CaptainHelion> You, sir, are both a gentleperson and a scholar, were I able to give you more than just my thanks, I would.
#2119 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Smileynator - Uh...
#2120 [10:42] <Yud_Zroc> benneh state your issue
#2121 [10:42] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: the java.exe process is bugging for me in game, i get about 30 seconds of gameplay before it becomes unbearable lag
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#2123 [10:43] <benneh> and when i exit minecraft, it doesnt close the process
#2124 [10:43] <Yud_Zroc> what OS are you using
#2125 [10:43] <benneh> Win7
#2126 [10:43] <benneh> it only started happening from 1.6
#2127 [10:43] <Smileynator> GreyVulpine - Or am i in way over your redstone head now? xD
#2128 [10:43] <Yud_Zroc> what version of java are you using
#2129 [10:44] <benneh> i assume the latest, unless i havnt noticed an update required
#2130 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Smiley - I haven't done a display in a while, and certainly not with the new blocks.
#2131 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> er, Smileynator even
#2132 [10:44] <Yud_Zroc> the latest is java 6 update 25
#2133 [10:44] <Smileynator> Smiley is fine ^^
#2134 [10:44] <benneh> how do i check my version?
#2135 [10:44] <mib_zf0m6k> i downloaded a texture pack and then my minecraft would not open what do i need to do
#2136 [10:44] * mib_8wl0wf [mib_8wl0wf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2137 [10:44] <Yud_Zroc> the uninstall area of start > computer
#2138 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_zf0m6k win/reinst
#2139 [10:45] <VoxelHead> mib_zf0m6k: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2140 [10:45] <VoxelHead> mib_zf0m6k: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2141 [10:45] <Smileynator> I do not mind if it uses old techniques, it would just be a bit bigger. but i wan't to know if it is at all possible.
#2142 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Smileynator - I don't see why not
#2143 [10:45] <Smileynator> i do not think i can create AND gates using only 2 dimentions T.T
#2144 [10:45] <Yud_Zroc> mib_zf0m6k: is the textre pack in any other format than *.zip
#2145 [10:45] <Smileynator> and i will need those to set the 3 inputs to a certain output on the screen.
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#2147 [10:45] <mib_zf0m6k> i dont think so no
#2148 [10:46] <mib_zf0m6k> i cant get past the loading screen and i cant find it on the forms now
#2149 [10:46] <mib_8wl0wf> i have a problem with pigs in my minecraft
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#2151 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_zf0m6k win/reinst
#2152 [10:46] <VoxelHead> mib_zf0m6k: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2153 [10:46] <VoxelHead> mib_zf0m6k: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2154 [10:46] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: yeah i think i have the latest, the uninstall screen says java 6, but not the update, but i assume its the latest because its not asking me to update
#2155 [10:46] <Smileynator> don't you people get the ''lacking 64bit java'' problem like 100 times a day? xD (Aka: Blackscreen crash after 5~30 minutes)
#2156 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Smileynator - We get quite a few of them, but blackscreens aren't always caused by that
#2157 [10:47] <mib_zf0m6k> thank you
#2158 [10:47] <Smileynator> most of the time it has at least someting to do with it.. heh
#2159 [10:47] <mib_zf0m6k> i will say if it works
#2160 [10:47] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: if it doesnt say something like java runtime 6 update 25 that you need to uninstall and get it from http://java.com
#2161 [10:47] <Smileynator> took me forever to figure out why win7 did that while vista did not. on the same rig.
#2162 [10:47] <mib_8wl0wf> they have spawned so many i cant even enter the world does anyone know how i can go in and delete pigs out of my world manually
#2163 [10:48] <TheHawk> another question i have from some friends of my son: am i able to connect to the latest server with earlier versions as well
#2164 [10:48] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: ok, ill give that a go thanks
#2165 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> TheHawk - Nope
#2166 [10:48] <Smileynator> but yeah, a AND gate in 2 dimentions (X and Z) (or Y and Z) (Z being UP) Is it possible?
#2167 [10:48] <Yud_Zroc> i have both 64 bit java and x86 lol
#2168 [10:48] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: ah i just looked again, i missed the fact that it actually has "update 24" in the name xP
#2169 [10:48] <TheHawk> that means they have to be at the same version
#2170 [10:48] <irishBoarder> I have a problem with my keyboard, everytime i type a letter or a number, in minecraft only, it thinks im typing the next number in sequence. so it goes through the numbers 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, continuously. So i cannot move at all
#2171 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> TheHawk - Yes
#2172 [10:48] <TheHawk> thanks a lot grey
#2173 [10:48] <Smileynator> Yud: I have both as well xD
#2174 [10:49] <TheHawk> that will be fun with the boys than tonight
#2175 [10:49] <TheHawk> i wil lget a lot of phone calls
#2176 [10:49] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: ok uninstall java and reinstall it using the java site i posted
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#2178 [10:49] <irishBoarder> anyone help me with that????
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#2180 [10:49] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: will do thanks, ill let you know if it helps at all
#2181 [10:49] <Smiley> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hilight attack - Forgot about this channel :D
#2182 [10:50] <Yud_Zroc> Smiley try not to spam
#2183 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> Smiley - Heh, sorry
#2184 [10:50] <Smileynator> ... go away you scary copycat D:
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#2186 [10:50] <Smileynator> *pokes smiley* Shoo!
#2187 [10:50] <irishBoarder> Im still having this problem with my control keys
#2188 [10:50] <Smiley> GreyVulpine: no worries, was just random.
#2189 [10:51] <Smiley> Maybe one day I'll return to the wonderful world of minecraft :@S
#2190 [10:51] <Smileynator> You.. are still creeping me out man..
#2191 [10:51] <Yud_Zroc> irishBoarder: Esc > options > controls settings
#2192 [10:52] <irishBoarder> Yud_Zroc: i have tried looking at those, but they are set as the regular settings,
#2193 [10:52] <Yud_Zroc> OS
#2194 [10:53] <Yud_Zroc> irishBoarder: what operating system are you using
#2195 [10:53] <mib_zf0m6k> it worked thank you
#2196 [10:53] <irishBoarder> I have tried resetting everything on my minecraft, even reloading the App and everything, still is jacked up
#2197 [10:54] <irishBoarder> Yud_Zroc: I use a window 7 64 bit
#2198 [10:54] <Yud_Zroc> irishBoarder: what version of java are you using, is it java 6 update 25
#2199 [10:54] <oldtopmanserver> irishBoarder: Do you have comcast something or other?
#2200 [10:55] <irishBoarder> Yud_Zroc: I believe so
#2201 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> ??> irishBoarder phantominput
#2202 [10:55] <VoxelHead> irishBoarder: (phantominput) If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#2203 [10:55] <Yud_Zroc> seems like a localization error
#2204 [10:55] <Yud_Zroc> or that lol
#2205 [10:55] <irishBoarder> oldtopmanserver: I do have xfinity, why would that change my controls only in the minecraft game and no other application?
#2206 [10:56] <Yud_Zroc> irishBoarder: because bloat ware like to screw things up
#2207 [10:56] <oldtopmanserver> irishBoarder: See voxelhead
#2208 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft uses Java, renders in OpenGL, uses lwjgl for its gaming library
#2209 [10:56] <irishBoarder> oh freek, well that sucks, that would explain it tho, it happened at the same time
#2210 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> I can almost promise minecraft isn't like any other game you've played
#2211 [10:57] <Yud_Zroc> same with notches other game
#2212 [10:57] <Yud_Zroc> wurmonline :D
#2213 [10:57] <Yud_Zroc> developed the same way
#2214 [10:58] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Notch should really improve his game development methods
#2215 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> We keep trying
#2216 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Notch is off to E3, otherwise I'd be pushing for more fixes.
#2217 [10:59] * oldtopmanserver wants a portal fix
#2217 [10:59] <Tanjoodo_iPod> If I were him, I'd rewrite that bitch in C++ (of course, that'll take time so I'd keep updating the Java version until the C++ one is ready)
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#2220 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't know C++
#2221 [11:00] <Yud_Zroc> Tanjoodo_iPod: the reason he put it into java is because he wants it run everywhere with minimal cost to develop
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#2223 [11:01] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: that didnt work, i have the same issue
#2224 [11:01] <Yud_Zroc> and compiling c++ in every data type is a pain and very expensive
#2225 [11:01] <Tanjoodo_iPod> GreyVulpine: He can learn it, easily as Java is a C inspired language.
#2226 [11:01] <benneh> java.exe wont quit and the lag gets rediculous instantly
#2227 [11:02] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: how much memory does your computer have and are you running it as admin
#2228 [11:02] <benneh> i have 4GB and im running it through the browser because the downloadable client seems to have worse lag and more chance to black screen
#2229 [11:02] <Yud_Zroc> Tanjoodo_iPod: yes but are you gona supply him with 12 different computers with different operating systems to compile it
#2230 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Tanjoodo_iPod - Java and C++ are OO languages, but many aspects are quite different. I got my start in C++, and tried out java, to hate it with a passion
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#2232 [11:02] <ArmEagle> grrrr. Why do i have to click in the game window everytime after I alt-tab back..
#2233 [11:02] <murdrums> Anyone in here use minecart mania?
#2234 [11:03] <ArmEagle> murdrums yes
#2235 [11:03] <Yud_Zroc> black screen is graphics driver error
#2236 [11:03] <Tanjoodo_iPod> But still, I think C++ would be worth the hassle.
#2237 [11:03] <ArmEagle> Yud_Zroc or someone messed up modding the client
#2238 [11:03] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: regardless, the browser still has the error since 1.6
#2239 [11:03] <murdrums> I installed it and it works fine, however, all of my powered rails, powered by redstone torches now work as breaks, and the cart moves VERY slowly over them
#2240 [11:03] <murdrums> What setting do i change for them to act normal?
#2241 [11:03] <benneh> i just got the latest java and it still lags almost instantly in game
#2242 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> murdrums - That's how MM works, redstone powered rails are now breaks
#2243 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> instead of the other way around
#2244 [11:04] <murdrums> so how do i speed things up with MM then?
#2245 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> Just remove the redstone torches, and those rails should work like normal
#2246 [11:04] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: can you close down java aps and tell me what % of your memory is being used in your task manager
#2247 [11:04] <murdrums> so many torches to remove though o.o
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#2249 [11:04] <Yud_Zroc> murdrums: get a bow
#2250 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> murdrums - welcome to MM, where the default state is on for powered rails
#2251 [11:04] <ArmEagle> murdrums euh. lemme see
#2252 [11:05] <murdrums> Yud: why?
#2253 [11:05] <benneh> CPU% - 27-30% Physical Memory% - 40%
#2254 [11:05] <Yud_Zroc> murdrums: shoot the torches lol less time needed lol
#2255 [11:05] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: when did you last update your graphicss card
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#2257 [11:06] <murdrums> lol, guess so, but most my my players have HUGE railways going underground etc, and it would take forever for them to remove them
#2258 [11:06] <ArmEagle> murdrums i thought there was an easier setting. but I guess you can just edit the properties of the POWERED_RAIL block type in the main config
#2259 [11:06] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: probably a while ago, i never think to update it since i dont usually have graphic errors, and i use my graphics alot since im a 3D modeller and animator
#2260 [11:06] <murdrums> So i want them to be able to keep them, but also be able to use MM as usual
#2261 [11:06] <smileynator_AFK> GreyVulpine: I am retarted :3
#2262 [11:06] <Yud_Zroc> what gfx card are you using?
#2263 [11:06] <ArmEagle> you could also have both powered and unpowered act as boosters, so people can slowly make the transition
#2264 [11:07] <benneh> nvidia 9800GTI
#2265 [11:07] <ArmEagle> .. assuming noone actually uses it as a break
#2266 [11:07] <Yud_Zroc> new driver came out today go get it
#2267 [11:07] <murdrums> people use unpowered ones on a slope, then hitting a button to power them on a stop
#2268 [11:07] <benneh> right-o
#2269 [11:08] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: thats gunna require a system restart isnt it?
#2270 [11:09] <Yud_Zroc> if your using windows....yup
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#2272 [11:09] <benneh> alright, just bookmarked this page to come back afterwards
#2273 [11:09] <smileynator_AFK> Stupid question, windows ALWAYS wants a restart. because it cannot figure out shit unless it had a couple of seconds to rest like a granny T.T
#2274 [11:10] * CaptainHelion [CaptainHelion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2275 [11:10] <benneh> lol
#2276 [11:10] <shadethorn> hello when i try to get on to my server it comes up with this:
#2277 [11:10] <murdrums> So is there no way to change the settings on MM for powered rails to be used as they are when MM isnt installed?
#2278 [11:10] <shadethorn> http://mibpaste.com/mnqlWn
#2279 [11:10] <benneh> i take it ubuntu and linux dont need to restart when it gets new graphics drivers?
#2280 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> shadethorn - Does it do it for anybody else that joins?
#2281 [11:10] <shadethorn> however my mat can get on
#2282 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> shadethorn - Try deleting your player profile from /world/players
#2283 [11:11] <shadethorn> mate*
#2284 [11:11] <smileynator_AFK> Hmm linux is usually smart enough to not reboot for every little silly thing. but i guess there might be some exceptions i do not know of :3
#2285 [11:11] <shadethorn> ok
#2286 [11:11] <benneh> smileynator_AFK: i tried linux once, had no idea wtf i was doing lol, but then again alot of my software only works on windows so i dont see any benefit of using linux for now
#2287 [11:11] <Yud_Zroc> smileynator_AFK: only kernal updates ussually
#2288 [11:12] <Yud_Zroc> benneh: blender3d :D
#2289 [11:12] <shadethorn> ok it works now thanks!
#2290 [11:12] <benneh> Yud_Zroc: lmao, been there done that, im using 3ds max ;)
#2291 [11:12] <smileynator_AFK> The only reason i do not use linux is because i am to retarted to do so. and i am a gamer. i am locked to a chain, that is attached to a ball made of irony and ethernal suffering with a nice bright WINDOWS logo on it.
#2292 [11:12] <smileynator_AFK> sadly.
#2293 [11:12] <benneh> its what i use at uni, so im not gunna downgrade when i have a 3 year liscience
#2294 [11:13] * Tanjoodo_iPod likes Windows AND Linux.
#2294 [11:13] <smileynator_AFK> Bthats a good thing.
#2295 [11:13] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Why da hate? Win7 is awesome.
#2296 [11:13] <smileynator_AFK> i just do not have any reason to get into linux, i just know it's awesome.
#2297 [11:13] <xolotl> benneh: To make use of newly-installed graphics drivers, the windowing system (Xorg), at least, would need to get restarted (and possibly some kernel modules reloaded, etc)
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#2299 [11:13] <smileynator_AFK> and mac is well.. just gay :3 *har har, OS fights*
#2300 [11:13] <xolotl> benneh: Doing so without a full box reboot is generally possible, though most folks would probably just reboot anyway
#2301 [11:14] <oldtopmanserver> Tanjoodo_iPod: Most linux users hate the EULA and the restrictions imposed by it.
#2302 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, another OS debate? I swear I see at least 2 a week on here
#2303 [11:14] <Tanjoodo_iPod> oldtopmanserver: Good enough reason.
#2304 [11:14] <benneh> xolotl: yeah im pretty sure my machine could do with a restart anyway, i only ever hibernate, not shut down, so it could do with a refresh :)
#2305 [11:14] <ExplosivePig> HELP minecraft keeps crashing any ideas???
#2306 [11:14] <oldtopmanserver> ??> ExplosivePig info
#2307 [11:14] <oldtopmanserver> ??> ExplosivePig index
#2308 [11:14] <VoxelHead> ExplosivePig: (index) See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries.
#2309 [11:14] <oldtopmanserver> derp
#2310 [11:14] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: not too bad...could be worse
#2311 [11:14] <xolotl> benneh: Yeah, shouldn't hurt
#2312 [11:14] <benneh> ok, gunna restart my system
#2313 [11:15] <benneh> be back soon
#2314 [11:15] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ExplosivePig: How much RAM?
#2315 [11:15] <oldtopmanserver> ??>> oldtopman howtoask
#2316 [11:15] <smileynator_AFK> Meh, i not a OS debate. Windows is limited. MAC is good for any retard that wants to make sure nothing can go wrong, and if so can send it to auto repairs. and linux is for the elitists who want to configure just about any variable in there OS and or PC in general.
#2317 [11:16] <smileynator_AFK> done :3
#2318 [11:16] <oldtopmanserver> ??>> oldtopmanserver howtoask
#2319 [11:16] <smileynator_AFK> i doubt anyone has anything against those statements.
#2320 [11:16] <ExplosivePig> no idea mate have deleted the config file but still nothing
#2321 [11:16] <oldtopmanserver> smileynator_AFK: eletists eh?
#2322 [11:16] <oldtopmanserver> elitists
#2323 [11:16] <smileynator_AFK> not an offensive term
#2324 [11:16] <xolotl> smileynator_AFK: I disagree with most of that, actually, and it was phrased very inflmmatorily (wtf @ that word) for a statement that claims to be trying to avoid a debate
#2325 [11:17] <smileynator_AFK> but ussually they strive to get the max out of there computer somehow. or at least make it work better then windows does.
#2326 [11:17] <xolotl> "I don't mean to be offensive, but <offensive statement>."
#2327 [11:17] <Yud_Zroc> plz join #os-debate if you would like to argue about the oses
#2328 [11:17] <oldtopmanserver> smileynator_AFK: Perhaps the elitists are the one calling the other people's users elitists
#2329 [11:17] <smileynator_AFK> fine fine ill just ehemm shut up now
#2330 [11:17] <oldtopmanserver> yeah, good idea.
#2331 [11:17] <smileynator_AFK> i figured out my problem, i will leave you all to rest xD
#2332 [11:17] <smileynator_AFK> i have driving leasons in like 10 minutes anyway
#2333 [11:18] <smileynator_AFK> cya around peeps
#2334 [11:18] <oldtopmanserver> bai!
#2335 [11:18] <smileynator_AFK> bai
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#2336 [11:18] * Tanjoodo_iPod is the only one there XS
#2336 [11:19] <Tanjoodo_iPod> XD
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#2340 [11:25] <yoshi> hi all
#2341 [11:25] <xales> Hi.
#2342 [11:25] <yoshi> i have got a huge problem
#2343 [11:25] <yoshi> will u please help me
#2344 [11:25] <oldtopmanserver> Tanjoodo_iPod: Try it a gain
#2345 [11:25] <oldtopmanserver> ??> yoshi ask
#2346 [11:25] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2347 [11:25] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2348 [11:26] <yoshi> ok i bought the game. and couldnt launch it
#2349 [11:26] <xales> Why not?
#2350 [11:26] <yoshi> i am using mac osx
#2351 [11:26] <murdrums> you did download the mac version, right... ?
#2352 [11:26] <oldtopmanserver> And when you double-click it, what happens?
#2353 [11:26] <yoshi> yea right
#2354 [11:26] <ExplosivePig> help guys minecraft keeps crashing
#2355 [11:26] <yoshi> when i double click it doesnt happens :)
#2356 [11:26] <xales> ExplosivePig: Care to elaborate on that?
#2357 [11:26] * GreyVulpine coughspermissionscoughs
#2357 [11:26] <xales> ??> yoshi mac/permissions
#2358 [11:26] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2359 [11:26] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2360 [11:27] <yoshi> it saysno file such category
#2361 [11:27] <xales> What?
#2362 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Where did you extract the minecraft.app to?
#2363 [11:28] <yoshi> to desktop
#2364 [11:28] <ExplosivePig> well i have recently dwn loaded a texture pack i load up minecraft and it loads to the bit where mojang appears then it freezes and crashes
#2365 [11:28] <ellisgeek> then do hmod +x ~/Desktop/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2366 [11:28] <xales> yoshi: You have to put it in Applications
#2367 [11:28] <xales> or that ^
#2368 [11:28] <ellisgeek> no
#2369 [11:28] <xales> ExplosivePig: Windows?
#2370 [11:28] <ExplosivePig> yh
#2371 [11:28] <xales> ??> ExplosivePig win/reinst
#2372 [11:28] <VoxelHead> ExplosivePig: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2373 [11:28] <VoxelHead> ExplosivePig: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2374 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> And it's chmod, not hmod
#2375 [11:29] <xolotl> ExplosivePig: Did you use mcpatcher, or otherwise modify minecraft.jar?
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#2377 [11:29] <ExplosivePig> mc patcher
#2378 [11:29] <xales> ExplosivePig: just follow VoxelHead's instructions
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#2380 [11:30] <yoshi> thanks for helping
#2381 [11:30] <yoshi> i am ok now
#2382 [11:30] <ellisgeek> no problem
#2383 [11:30] <mib_dyntci> hi all
#2384 [11:30] <ellisgeek> hi
#2385 [11:30] <mib_dyntci> i got a prob
#2386 [11:30] <ellisgeek> ok
#2387 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> we got solutions
#2388 [11:31] <ellisgeek> mib_dyntci Whats up
#2389 [11:31] <mib_dyntci> when i try to play minecraft in the browser
#2390 [11:31] <ellisgeek> yes
#2391 [11:31] <mib_dyntci> all it comes up with is a blank white screen
#2392 [11:31] <mib_dyntci> and it wont let me play
#2393 [11:31] <ellisgeek> try the download client
#2394 [11:32] <ellisgeek> http://minecraft.net/download
#2395 [11:32] <mib_dyntci> i have tried that
#2396 [11:32] <ellisgeek> and?
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#2398 [11:32] <mib_dyntci> i had a look through the forums and it didnt work
#2399 [11:32] <xales> ellisgeek: it's download.jsp, not download
#2400 [11:32] <arozana> how can i see the server list
#2401 [11:32] <ellisgeek> :P
#2402 [11:32] <xales> mib_dyntci: how does it "not work"
#2403 [11:32] <xales> ??> arozana smp/servers
#2404 [11:32] <VoxelHead> arozana: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2405 [11:32] <VoxelHead> arozana: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2406 [11:32] <mib_dyntci> it just didnt
#2407 [11:33] <mib_dyntci> there wasnt any thing
#2408 [11:33] <xales> Windows?
#2409 [11:33] <arozana> thanks
#2410 [11:33] <mib_dyntci> yup
#2411 [11:33] <mib_dyntci> 7
#2412 [11:33] <xales> Reinstall Java
#2413 [11:33] * ellisgeek needs more information (os basic specs)
#2413 [11:33] <mib_dyntci> i didnt think of that
#2414 [11:33] <ellisgeek> or that
#2415 [11:33] <mib_dyntci> *face palm* ty i will try that now
#2416 [11:34] <mib_dyntci> brb
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#2418 [11:35] <mib_dyntci> you wouldnt mind sending a link would you?
#2419 [11:35] <xales> http://java.com/
#2420 [11:35] <mib_dyntci> my pc wont let me in
#2421 [11:35] <mib_dyntci> ty
#2422 [11:35] <mib_dyntci> it was playing up
#2423 [11:35] <Puddles> Hi, can someone help me?
#2424 [11:35] <xales> ??> Puddles ask
#2425 [11:35] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2426 [11:35] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2427 [11:35] <ellisgeek> whats up? puddles
#2428 [11:36] <Puddles> Well I had this world in singleplayer, I had played on it for some weeks now and saved it alot, when I just saved again for like 3-4 min ago, my pc crashed while I was saving. I didn't worry much about this since I had saved several times. But when I started Minecraft again, my world was gone!
#2429 [11:37] <xales> ??> Puddles nullsave
#2430 [11:37] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2431 [11:37] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
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#2434 [11:39] <ellisgeek> cue jepordy music
#2435 [11:39] <Puddles> I just download the software+
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#2437 [11:40] <mib_h2e6wf> i am stuck lol
#2438 [11:40] <mib_h2e6wf> i cant download minecraft
#2439 [11:40] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ?client
#2440 [11:40] <mib_2kzq0y> in the browser minecraft wont load it just has a plain white screen i have waited for about ten minutes and have reinstalled java! can anyone help me!:P
#2441 [11:40] <mib_h2e6wf> i have windows vista
#2442 [11:40] <Tanjoodo_iPod> !client
#2443 [11:41] <xales> mib_2kzq0y: try the download client.
#2444 [11:41] <xales> mib_h2e6wf: why can't you download it?
#2445 [11:41] <mib_h2e6wf> ill try now
#2446 [11:41] <mib_2kzq0y> i have it wont work offline either it says something about the memory prob
#2447 [11:41] <mib_h2e6wf> yay!
#2448 [11:41] <mib_h2e6wf> i think it is working
#2449 [11:41] <Puddles> What do this MCEdit do?
#2450 [11:41] <mib_h2e6wf> but i had like this before and it kept crashing
#2451 [11:42] <Puddles> and it dosent seems it's updated for 1.6.6
#2452 [11:42] <xales> Puddles: It is a world editor. Like the message said, opening a corrupted world with it and saving it again often fixes it
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#2454 [11:42] <xales> mib_2kzq0y: EXACTLY, what does it say?
#2455 [11:42] <mib_2kzq0y> can anyone help me with the memory prob if i play offline it crashes and says about a memory prob then online it wont play at all!
#2456 [11:43] <xales> mib_2kzq0y: EXACTLY, what does it say?
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#2460 [11:44] <mib_h2e6wf> yeh it crashed
#2461 [11:45] <mib_h2e6wf> dam
#2462 [11:45] <mib_h2e6wf> damn*
#2463 [11:45] <xales> mib_h2e6wf: care to elaborate? what does "crashed" mean ._.
#2464 [11:45] <xales> is there an error? black screen? does it close?
#2465 [11:45] <mib_h2e6wf> it just closed
#2466 [11:45] <xales> ??> mib_h2e6wf win/reinst
#2467 [11:46] <VoxelHead> mib_h2e6wf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2468 [11:46] <VoxelHead> mib_h2e6wf: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2470 [11:46] <errorboy> Hey
#2471 [11:46] <errorboy> can somebody help me pleaseee
#2472 [11:46] <errorboy> could somebody please help me ?
#2473 [11:46] <Tanjoodo_iPod> >>? errorboy ask
#2474 [11:46] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Oops
#2475 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
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#2477 [11:46] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2478 [11:46] <errorboy> wen i try to login to minecraft
#2479 [11:46] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2480 [11:47] <errorboy> it loads
#2481 [11:47] <errorboy> and then closes
#2482 [11:47] <errorboy> and i get an error file in my folder
#2483 [11:47] <mib_2kzq0y> same here errorboy
#2484 [11:47] <errorboy> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x03a5292c, pid=4068, tid=3612 # # JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode, sharing windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x03a5292c # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#2485 [11:47] <xales> ?? pastebin
#2486 [11:47] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#2487 [11:47] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#2488 [11:47] <errorboy> http://pastebin.com/H0LCGzFk
#2489 [11:48] <xales> errorboy: Update your graphics card drivers
#2490 [11:48] <errorboy> How
#2491 [11:48] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#2492 [11:48] <errorboy> no
#2493 [11:48] <mib_2kzq0y> how do you zoom out to see your character?
#2494 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_2kzq0y - You can't
#2495 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Try F5 for a third person view
#2496 [11:48] <Tanjoodo_iPod> F5
#2497 [11:48] <xales> ??> errorboy win/dxdiag
#2498 [11:48] <VoxelHead> errorboy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2499 [11:48] <mib_h2e6wf> where is +R?
#2500 [11:48] <VoxelHead> errorboy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2501 [11:48] <xales> ??> mib_h2e6wf win/key
#2502 [11:48] <VoxelHead> mib_h2e6wf: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2503 [11:49] <mib_2kzq0y> nope F5 dont work
#2504 [11:49] <ellisgeek> mib_2kzq0y mac or windows
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#2506 [11:49] <mr_evil> !check
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#2508 [11:49] <mib_2kzq0y> !check
#2509 [11:50] <mib_h2e6wf> and what do i delete again?
#2510 [11:50] <xales> mib_h2e6wf: everything inside of the .minecraft folder except for 'saves'
#2511 [11:50] <errorboy> http://pastebin.com/4YR9SRjF
#2512 [11:50] <ellisgeek> and stats
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#2514 [11:51] <xales> errorboy: err, the graphics card in your computer is...
#2515 [11:51] <ExplosivePig> mib_2kzq0y press each Function key until it zooms out thats what i did
#2516 [11:51] <errorboy> shitty ?
#2517 [11:51] <xales> well, let's just say, it belongs in a museum, not a computer
#2518 [11:51] <errorboy> Hmm
#2519 [11:51] <xales> it's far too old to support Minecraft
#2520 [11:51] <errorboy> how is that possible
#2521 [11:51] <xales> sorry :(
#2522 [11:51] <errorboy> it can run world of warcraft :s
#2523 [11:51] <mib_2kzq0y> ExplosivePig i have tried that
#2524 [11:51] <mib_2kzq0y> except F6
#2525 [11:51] <xales> my phone can run world of warcraft
#2526 [11:51] <mib_2kzq0y> cause that closes it
#2527 [11:51] <xales> ._.
#2528 [11:52] <errorboy> tss
#2529 [11:52] <errorboy> that sux
#2530 [11:52] <ellisgeek> better instructions than voxels: Press WIN + R then in the bos that comes up type in %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the bin texturepacks and resources folders
#2531 [11:52] <ExplosivePig> im not sure then soz
#2532 [11:52] <ellisgeek> box*
#2533 [11:52] <errorboy> who are you talking to ellisgeek ?
#2534 [11:53] <xales> someone else
#2535 [11:53] <errorboy> Alright
#2536 [11:53] <errorboy> well my wenis says bye
#2537 [11:53] <ellisgeek> umm
#2538 [11:54] <ellisgeek> mib_h2e6wf
#2539 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> ellisgeek - Some mods can create more folders than what's already in .minecraft
#2540 [11:54] <ellisgeek> ya true
#2541 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> ellisgeek - It's just good to get rid of everything but saves
#2542 [11:54] <ellisgeek> what about stats
#2543 [11:54] <ellisgeek> that ought to be safe
#2544 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> You don't know that for sure.
#2545 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> One rule in diagnosing problems, never assume, or take anything for granted.
#2546 [11:57] <ellisgeek> whell atleast back your stats up first
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#2549 [11:57] <mib_2kzq0y> when i try to get a texture pack it never works! how do i get a texture pack successfully?
#2550 [11:57] * xales bbl
#2550 [11:58] <Triggerdusk> howdy all
#2551 [11:58] <Triggerdusk> looking to get to risucraft
#2552 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft
#2553 [11:58] <xales> /join #risucraft
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#2555 [11:58] <ellisgeek> mib_2kzq0y ...
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#2557 [11:59] <mr_evil> when i try to download a texture pack i can never use it in minecraft! can anyone tell me how to get a successful texture pack?
#2558 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Are you placing the .zip file in your .minecraft/texturepacks folder?
#2559 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> What texture pack are you trying to use?
#2560 [12:00] <mr_evil> yeah
#2561 [12:00] <mr_evil> ummm wait a sec
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#2563 [12:00] <SirTrumpet> Where can I find out if my account is alpha or beta?
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#2565 [12:01] <mr_evil> craftee pack
#2566 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> SirTrumpet - There's currently no way to determine that
#2567 [12:01] <mr_evil> v1.5
#2568 [12:01] <Aidannn123> Whilst me and my friend were playing on our server, my friend glitched out of the nether and cant get back
#2569 [12:01] <Aidannn123> http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6232/fkmc.png
#2570 [12:01] <Aidannn123> how can we get her out
#2571 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Are you running minecraft version 1.5?
#2572 [12:02] <mr_evil> no v1.6.6
#2573 [12:02] <mr_evil> o...
#2574 [12:02] <mr_evil> oops.
#2575 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Then that texture pack won't work for you
#2576 [12:02] <SirTrumpet> so i cant find out if someone sold me a alpha or beta giftcode?
#2577 [12:02] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Aidannn123: /spawn? Someone summon her or whatever you call it.
#2578 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> SirTrumpet - Not currently, no
#2579 [12:02] <mr_evil> there are no other with that version though
#2580 [12:02] <Aidannn123> umm ok
#2581 [12:02] <SirTrumpet> i dont like that thought :(
#2582 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Then either you'll need to wait for the texture pack maker to update, or you can find another texture pack
#2583 [12:03] <Tanjoodo_iPod> What's the difference between alpha and beta?
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#2585 [12:03] <mr_evil> sirtrumpet what version dose it say in the top left of your minecraft
#2586 [12:03] <mib_ni1swh> !check
#2587 [12:03] <mib_ni1swh> yay
#2588 [12:03] <Puddles> Could someone help me with MCEdit?
#2589 [12:03] <mib_ni1swh> !check
#2590 [12:03] <Aidannn123> no, our server has no commands for some reason
#2591 [12:03] <Triggerdusk> hey xales mind helping me in risucraft?
#2592 [12:04] <Aidannn123> ./spawn doesnt work
#2593 [12:04] <mr_evil> !check
#2594 [12:04] <Aidannn123> shes still stuck in the glitch
#2595 [12:04] <vcordie> what the heck
#2596 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Aidannn123 - Have her /kill
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#2598 [12:04] <huddler> !check
#2599 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Aidannn123 - If that doesn't work, delete her player profile in /world/players
#2600 [12:04] <vcordie> Okay, whenever I view a picture quicktime wants to associate itself with it and then update
#2601 [12:04] <vcordie> freezing my browser
#2602 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - That's not a minecraft issue...
#2603 [12:04] <vcordie> I know
#2604 [12:04] <huddler> !check
#2605 [12:05] <SirTrumpet> it says minecraft Beta 1.6.6
#2606 [12:05] <SirTrumpet> @mr_evil
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#2608 [12:05] <Aidannn123> ok
#2609 [12:05] <mr_evil> would a 1.6.5 texture pack work on a 1.6.6 minecraft?
#2610 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> tell quicktime to quit determining if images aren't using it by default, and to stop checking
#2611 [12:05] <vcordie> grrr, cant hit the x button and the network has right click disabled so I cant right cilck on it and select close
#2612 [12:05] <xolotl> mr_evil: Yeah, it should be fine
#2613 [12:05] <vcordie> I tried to, lol
#2614 [12:05] <mr_evil> ty
#2615 [12:05] <vcordie> it just freezes up
#2616 [12:05] <xolotl> mr_evil: Though if you're using mcpatcher, it's possible that there are some differences
#2617 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - Then uninstall quicktime >.>
#2618 [12:06] <vcordie> can't do that
#2619 [12:06] <vcordie> Not an admin on this network
#2620 [12:06] <Aidannn123> problem solved, thanks GreyVulpine
#2621 [12:06] <vcordie> I could make myself an admin, but probablly land me into trouble.
#2622 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Aidannn123 - Sure
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#2624 [12:06] <Puddles> How do you save the world in MCEdit?
#2625 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-s
#2626 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> alt-f4 to close
#2627 [12:07] <Puddles> and then my world should be back in MineCraft?
#2628 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Check for yourself
#2629 [12:08] <SirTrumpet> cant i ask majong if they can look at me account and tell me if its an alpha or beta account?
#2630 [12:08] <Puddles> uhm it is
#2631 [12:08] <Puddles> but I spawned under the earth
#2632 [12:08] <Puddles> and died instantly
#2633 [12:08] <Puddles> and now im spawning in a small area I have no idea where is
#2634 [12:09] <mib_h2e6wf> where do i get texture and mod packs and do they cost money?
#2635 [12:09] <Puddles> what to do? :S
#2636 [12:09] <vcordie> Puddles: did you have minecraft open when you were using mcedit?
#2637 [12:09] <Puddles> no
#2638 [12:09] <vcordie> even if you are exited out of the world, you HAVE to have minecraft closed or it will corrupt your world
#2639 [12:10] <vcordie> well, sounds like you did something to the area you spawn in
#2640 [12:10] <Puddles> I had minecraft closed
#2641 [12:10] <Puddles> well I did fly around a bit in MCEdit
#2642 [12:10] <Puddles> could I go back in MCEdit and set my checkpoint?
#2643 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> SirTrumpet - No, I don't think they have a tool to find out yet.
#2644 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> SirTrumpet - It's something they have planned down the line, but it's not a priority
#2645 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first person to ask for something like that
#2646 [12:11] <mib_h2e6wf> where do i get texture and mods and do they cost money?
#2647 [12:11] <aikaramba> is there a way to re-process map for new version features
#2648 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2e6wf - Just google for it, and no, they do not cost money
#2649 [12:11] <aikaramba> e.g. grass
#2650 [12:12] <Tanjoodo_iPod> mib_h2e6wf: No, they're free and learn to Google.
#2651 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2e6wf - Try starting here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/10790-texture-pack-central-mods-tools-maps-list/
#2652 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> aikaramba - Nope, unless you want to delete the chunks that have already been generated
#2653 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, new map features will be generated at the edge of already generated terrain
#2654 [12:13] <aikaramba> booo :(
#2655 [12:13] <aikaramba> the grass looks nice
#2656 [12:13] <aikaramba> i wonder if i can grow it somehow
#2657 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> It's the same with any new block or ore that notch puts in
#2658 [12:13] <aikaramba> like from seed
#2659 [12:13] <Puddles> GreyVulpine: I managed to move my char near my house. But I lost all my stuff :(
#2660 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Sorry..
#2661 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of inventory editors out there though, if you want to search for them
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#2663 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Invedit is a good third party standalone program.
#2664 [12:14] <Puddles> so I get my stuff back or? :P
#2665 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> There's also a ton of in-game inventory editor mods, like toomanyitems
#2666 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes, if you're willing to search for it
#2667 [12:14] <Puddles> what to they do?
#2668 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Basically give you back your items, if you wish
#2669 [12:15] <Puddles> that would be great!
#2670 [12:15] <Puddles> is it easy to use?
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#2672 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> many of them are
#2673 [12:15] <Puddles> you got a good one?
#2674 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Haven't used one in a while, my favorite used to be InvEdit
#2675 [12:16] <mib_h2e6wf> java be binary has stoppped working wat does that mean?
#2676 [12:17] <Tanjoodo_iPod> mib_h2e6wf: It means that Java stopped working...
#2677 [12:17] <mib_h2e6wf> how do i fix it
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#2679 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/14190-invedit/
#2680 [12:17] <andries> hey
#2681 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Try the mirror link, the primary one looks to be down
#2682 [12:17] <andries> i gat the internal java bug
#2683 [12:17] <vcordie> I use toomanyitems
#2684 [12:18] <vcordie> very easy to use.
#2685 [12:18] <vcordie> just click on the item you want. >_>
#2686 [12:18] <Tanjoodo_iPod> mib_h2e6wf: Does that happen everytime?
#2687 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> sure, if you're comfortable modding minecraft
#2688 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Many first time users aren't
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#2690 [12:18] <Mash> GreyVulpine, you around?
#2691 [12:18] <vcordie> nah, its easy
#2692 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2693 [12:18] <vcordie> Literally 1 2 3
#2694 [12:18] <andries> how i kill the java internal error?
#2695 [12:18] <vcordie> 1. find your .minecraft/bin folder and open the jar
#2696 [12:18] <Mash> Wanna help me out with another circuit, GV?
#2697 [12:18] <Triggerdusk> crap now i need the craftin g recipies for the airship mod >.<
#2698 [12:18] <vcordie> 2. drag class files into it
#2699 [12:18] <andries> 3.???
#2700 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> I was about to head out here... sorry.
#2701 [12:18] <vcordie> 3. delete meta-inf
#2702 [12:19] <andries> 4. Profit
#2703 [12:19] <vcordie> no.
#2704 [12:19] <vcordie> not profit.
#2705 [12:19] <vcordie> >_>
#2706 [12:19] <Mash> GreyVulpine, alright man, thanks anyway. This stupid 'IF' gate is killing my brain lol
#2707 [12:19] <Puddles> GreyVulpine I opened IVedit now
#2708 [12:19] <Puddles> but how do I use it?
#2709 [12:19] <andries> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#2710 [12:20] <andries> thats my error
#2711 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Just open the world that you have, and drag and drop items in
#2712 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Then resave it to apply the inventory changes
#2713 [12:20] <andries> no1 helps me?
#2714 [12:20] <andries> :(
#2715 [12:20] <vcordie> how is an if gate killing your brain?
#2716 [12:20] <vcordie> iirc an if gate doesnt even require redstone torches.
#2717 [12:21] <vcordie> unless its a reverse if gate, in that case you just slap an inverter at the bottom.
#2718 [12:21] <andries> no one answers my questien?
#2719 [12:21] <andries> >:(
#2720 [12:21] <vcordie> ??repeat
#2721 [12:21] <vcordie> ??patience
#2722 [12:21] <vcordie> ahh screw it I'm not familar with this bot.
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#2725 [12:21] <vcordie> oh, thats your error andries?
#2726 [12:22] <vcordie> it looks like a connection error
#2727 [12:22] <Puddles> GreyVulpine so this way I could get infintive with rescourses? :p
#2728 [12:22] <vcordie> your attempt to connect timed out because it took too long
#2729 [12:22] <Yud_Zroc> GreyVulpine: are you still here
#2730 [12:22] <vcordie> this could be a problem at the server end or client end, or an issue with one of the servers inbetween
#2731 [12:22] <andries> is my internet slow then?
#2732 [12:22] <vcordie> nah, slow internet usually doesn't cause this
#2733 [12:22] <vcordie> though a connection problem could have slow internet as a sympton
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#2735 [12:23] <Henwoo1_jnr> Hello?
#2736 [12:23] <Yud_Zroc> hello Henwoo1_jnr
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#2738 [12:24] <Henwoo1_jnr> Um i need some help with minecraft im thinking of buying it and i was wandering how much GHz and RAM is needed?
#2739 [12:24] <Yud_Zroc> what operating system are you using
#2740 [12:24] <Henwoo1_jnr> Windows XP
#2741 [12:24] <ReverendD> I am able to run it on a laptop with a 1.2/2GB w/o issues.
#2742 [12:24] <aikaramba> i think its quire RAM intensive
#2743 [12:24] <vcordie> only because it memory leaks
#2744 [12:24] <ReverendD> Graphics cant be the highest, but it works well.
#2745 [12:24] <Yud_Zroc> windows xp i would recommend 1500-2000megs
#2746 [12:25] <aikaramba> everything else is similar to other games
#2747 [12:25] <xolotl> aikaramba: By default it'll just use a gig
#2748 [12:25] <Yud_Zroc> ReverendD: thats because your using a laptop
#2749 [12:25] <Yud_Zroc> ReverendD: it has a mobility gpu and processor
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#2751 [12:25] <vcordie> with a few optimizing mods, default texture pack and fast graphics with framerate limitor I get 60fps on normal, 40-50 fps on far, and 120fps on tiny
#2752 [12:25] <vcordie> but tiny is unplayable
#2753 [12:25] <ReverendD> Correct Yud. I was stating that 2GB and a 1.2Mhz were enough to play the game though.
#2754 [12:25] <Puddles> GreyVulpine do I save it over the world?
#2755 [12:25] <xolotl> Henwoo1_jnr: There's a demo available from PC Gamer
#2756 [12:25] <vcordie> and I have a crappy processer and 2gigs of ram
#2757 [12:26] <vcordie> I'm trying to think what it is
#2758 [12:26] <xolotl> Henwoo1_jnr: It may or may not be linked to from minecraft.net, but you could try that out first
#2759 [12:26] <Henwoo1_jnr> So ifi buy this card >>>http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/kfa2-nvidia-geforce-8400gs-pci-e-graphics-card-512mb-07908187-pdt.html will it work then?
#2760 [12:26] <ReverendD> How old is the machine Vcord?
#2761 [12:26] <Yud_Zroc> for a desktop with xp i would say no less than than 1 gig memorry with nothing else runnning and a 2.ghz single, or a 1 ghz duel
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#2763 [12:26] <Henwoo1_jnr> aaok
#2764 [12:26] <andries> if you got like 1 gig of vid ram you're okay i think
#2765 [12:26] <Henwoo1_jnr> ok
#2766 [12:26] <Yud_Zroc> Henwoo1_jnr: i wouldnt
#2767 [12:26] <Henwoo1_jnr> why
#2768 [12:26] <kermie> i have a problem
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#2770 [12:27] <aikaramba> also it has the habit of constant cpu usage
#2771 [12:27] <Yud_Zroc> your spending too much on that card
#2772 [12:27] <andries> i got 1,8 ghz and its running smoothly
#2773 [12:27] <Yud_Zroc> and it aint great at all
#2774 [12:27] <aikaramba> e.g. it doesnt use much
#2775 [12:27] <aikaramba> but makes it busy all the time
#2776 [12:27] <kermie> hello
#2777 [12:27] <Henwoo1_jnr> Well what card would u get?
#2778 [12:27] <aikaramba> so a lappy might heat up
#2779 [12:27] <aikaramba> and so the performance might change accordingly
#2780 [12:27] <kermie> i have a problem
#2781 [12:27] <aikaramba> what?
#2782 [12:27] <aikaramba> what is your problem kermie
#2783 [12:27] <kermie> i go to the minecraft launcher
#2784 [12:28] <aikaramba> whats that?
#2785 [12:28] <vcordie> Raverend: like 6 years
#2786 [12:28] <vcordie> It was an intel something 64 I think
#2787 [12:28] <aikaramba> the jar file?
#2788 [12:28] <kermie> and ill type my user and pass
#2789 [12:28] <Yud_Zroc> Henwoo1_jnr: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130656
#2790 [12:28] <vcordie> a single core piece of crud
#2791 [12:28] <kermie> i click log in
#2792 [12:28] <kermie> but it says
#2793 [12:28] <aikaramba> suddenly blocks
#2794 [12:28] <Yud_Zroc> thats what i have and it works awsomely
#2795 [12:28] <kermie> user not premium
#2796 [12:28] <aikaramba> are you?
#2797 [12:28] <ReverendD> @Vcordie, might be a bit of a stretch at 6 years but it shoudl still play it decently. I would cap framerate perhaps and set graphics to fast.
#2798 [12:29] <aikaramba> kermie, whats your username
#2799 [12:29] <vcordie> Err, what?
#2800 [12:29] <vcordie> I was stating my machine so the guy who was asking if his hardware was good enough could compare
#2801 [12:29] <mr_evil> im minning gold and when its finished it aint dropping anything please help me!
#2802 [12:29] <aikaramba> wrong tool
#2803 [12:29] <aikaramba> mr_evil, you need at least iron
#2804 [12:29] <xolotl> kermie: Please don't use your enter key as a comma
#2805 [12:29] <mr_evil> im using a pick
#2806 [12:29] <kermie> hello
#2807 [12:29] <andries> hmm i can go on a server with a mc proxy
#2808 [12:29] <vcordie> I'm already playing, have been for months now, works fine as long as I use optimizing mods
#2809 [12:29] <aikaramba> wood or stone pickaxe wont drop annything
#2810 [12:30] <kermie> i have a problem
#2811 [12:30] <mr_evil> ok
#2812 [12:30] <aikaramba> you need diamond or iron pixaxe
#2813 [12:30] <vcordie> andries: I'm going to say no here.
#2814 [12:30] <mr_evil> but im using iron
#2815 [12:30] <aikaramba> kermie, faster
#2816 [12:30] <aikaramba> youre wasting time
#2817 [12:30] <VoxelHead> Captain's log, Stardate 46133: I've summoned the ops to discuss Commander Wug's theory that bitches are a lifeform. Doctor Kealper has attended reluctantly. Meanwhile the replicators are only making decaff :O
#2818 [12:30] <aikaramba> whats your username?
#2819 [12:30] <kermie> i go to the minecraft launcher
#2820 [12:30] <aikaramba> dont repeat yourself
#2821 [12:30] <kermie> can i play from there?
#2822 [12:30] <aikaramba> we all read that
#2823 [12:30] <aikaramba> what is your username?
#2824 [12:31] <aikaramba> !paid kermie
#2825 [12:31] <aikaramba> hmm
#2826 [12:31] <aikaramba> you should be able to play
#2827 [12:31] <kermie> my username?
#2828 [12:31] <aestie> !paid aestie
#2829 [12:31] <aestie> see?
#2830 [12:32] <kermie> wtf?
#2831 [12:32] <Tanjoodo_iPod> What's your minecraft username, kermie?
#2832 [12:32] <kermie> im going to the minecraft launcher
#2833 [12:32] <Yud_Zroc> iron pick is needed for redstone, blue thingy, diamond, gold and all the other high end ores
#2834 [12:33] <kermie> ill put my information
#2835 [12:33] <kermie> and i click log in
#2836 [12:33] <kermie> then it says
#2837 [12:33] <kermie> user not premium
#2838 [12:33] <aestie> what is ya mc account?
#2839 [12:34] <xolotl> kermie: You've said that, what, three times now? What is your minecraft username?
#2840 [12:34] <kermie> killameen12345
#2841 [12:34] <aestie> !paid killameen12345
#2842 [12:34] <aestie> not paid
#2843 [12:34] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ^
#2844 [12:34] <Tanjoodo_iPod> You should buy minecraft first.
#2845 [12:34] <kermie> wtf i have to pay for playing a game
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#2847 [12:34] <xolotl> kermie: If you have a transaction record from whatever you used to pay for Minecraft, send in your details to payment@mojang.com
#2848 [12:34] <xolotl> kermie: None of us work for Mojang here, so only they can help you out with it.
#2849 [12:35] <aestie> lol i scard the dog the hell out of him :D
#2850 [12:35] <Tanjoodo_iPod> kermie: You got allot to learn.
#2851 [12:35] <Triggerdusk> its not letting my get to #risucraft
#2852 [12:35] <Yud_Zroc> kermie: yes you must pay for a p2p game
#2853 [12:35] <aestie> lol kermie is pwned
#2854 [12:35] <xolotl> oh, right
#2855 [12:35] <Triggerdusk> nvm lol
#2856 [12:35] <aestie> pwned by notch's birthday
#2857 [12:36] <xolotl> kermie: Yeah, Minecraft Beta is not free. You can play Classic, which is a free version, but it's pretty different
#2858 [12:36] <Yud_Zroc> lol aestie
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#2860 [12:36] <aestie> what this day is notch's birthday
#2861 [12:36] <Yud_Zroc> yes it is
#2862 [12:36] <mr_evil> i am having a bit of a problem with some of my blocks the arnt appering
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#2865 [12:36] <Yud_Zroc> mr_evil: plz explain
#2866 [12:36] <aestie> sp or mp?
#2867 [12:37] <Yud_Zroc> and are you placing the block?
#2868 [12:37] <mr_evil> well im using my door and when i close it it is closed but dosent appere to be
#2869 [12:37] <aikaramba> wth
#2870 [12:37] <Yud_Zroc> relog
#2871 [12:37] <mr_evil> when i place some blocks they wont appere
#2872 [12:37] <aestie> lag.
#2873 [12:37] <aestie> mrevil mp or sp?
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#2875 [12:37] <mr_evil> mp sp? define
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#2877 [12:37] <Yud_Zroc> or chunk errors, relog and you should be fine
#2878 [12:37] <Zantetsukan> hi
#2879 [12:37] <Yud_Zroc> mp = multiplayer sp single player
#2880 [12:37] <LC98> hello?
#2881 [12:37] <aestie> multiplayer or single
#2882 [12:37] <Zantetsukan> can someone quickly test my server
#2883 [12:38] <aestie> okay
#2884 [12:38] <Zantetsukan> 92.20.30.27:25565
#2885 [12:38] <mr_evil> i have tried reloging so many times
#2886 [12:38] <Zantetsukan> been having issues
#2887 [12:38] <mr_evil> i even at one point restarted my pc
#2888 [12:38] <Zantetsukan> o there we go
#2889 [12:38] <Zantetsukan> seems to work
#2890 [12:38] <mr_evil> single player
#2891 [12:38] <mr_evil> and multi player
#2892 [12:38] <aestie> im in
#2893 [12:38] <Yud_Zroc> Zantetsukan: do not post that in this channel because you can get a 1 way ticket to the creaper jail
#2894 [12:38] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE in? feel these nipples!
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#2897 [12:39] <Funstar> Hi there. We got a little but annoying bug on our server, maybe you can tell me how to fix it. Every time a player logs in, the server lags for 3-4 secs. It this a vanilla problem or bukkit/plugin related?
#2898 [12:39] <kermie> where can i download the free version?
#2899 [12:39] <LC98> So could someone explain to me what this code means? there's a pic on flickr i took, hold on... http://www.flickr.com/photos/legocrazy98/5786862166/
#2900 [12:39] <Yud_Zroc> Minecraft.net
#2901 [12:39] <vcordie> you don't download the free version
#2902 [12:39] <vcordie> you just play it in your browser
#2903 [12:40] <LC98> I try to log onto the server, or any server but it doesn't let me.
#2904 [12:40] <Yud_Zroc> LC98: whats your username
#2905 [12:40] <LC98> on flickr?
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#2907 [12:40] <kermie> whats the page where i can play the free version?
#2908 [12:40] <Yud_Zroc> on MC
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#2910 [12:40] <LC98> LC98
#2911 [12:41] <mr_fribble> hello
#2912 [12:41] <vcordie> Kermie: press the button that says "play the free(but outdated) version here"
#2913 [12:41] <mr_evil> how deep can you dig in minecraft?
#2914 [12:41] <Yud_Zroc> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#2915 [12:41] <vcordie> and look next time
#2916 [12:41] <Yud_Zroc> !paid LC98
#2917 [12:41] <mr_fribble> can someoene help me
#2918 [12:41] <vcordie> Lc98: looks like the game tried to pull something off of a webpage, but failed at parsing some code and grabbed the code instead.
#2919 [12:41] <mr_fribble> i can't uptdate my minecraft
#2920 [12:42] <Yud_Zroc> ?? > win|reinst
#2921 [12:42] <vcordie> what version of minecraft do you have?
#2922 [12:42] <mr_fribble> 1.6.5
#2923 [12:42] <Funstar> !paid Funstar81
#2924 [12:42] <vcordie> you have the latest
#2925 [12:42] <Yud_Zroc> no you done
#2926 [12:42] <vcordie> (I think)
#2927 [12:42] <xolotl> mr_evil: A minecraft level is a total of 128 blocks high, with ground level averaging at 'round 64
#2928 [12:42] <Yud_Zroc> the latest is 1.6.6
#2929 [12:42] <mr_fribble> yes
#2930 [12:42] <vcordie> Yud_zroc technically they are the same thing.
#2931 [12:42] <VoxelHead> The best kind of they
#2932 [12:42] <Yud_Zroc> oh ok
#2933 [12:43] <mr_fribble> when i press uptdate(or yes) it just stands downloading packages 4 ever
#2934 [12:43] <LC98> and so how can i fix that?
#2935 [12:43] <Yud_Zroc> LC98 i would reinstall but i dont know how to do it on windows
#2936 [12:43] <vcordie> When I was playing 1.6.3 it said I had 1.6.4, etc
#2937 [12:43] <mr_fribble> hm
#2938 [12:43] <LC98> I've tried twice already.
#2939 [12:43] <vcordie> so I'm PRETTY sure you have the latest version fribble
#2940 [12:43] <mr_fribble> how do ya do it on mac then?
#2941 [12:43] <Yud_Zroc> LC98: what version of java are you using?
#2942 [12:43] <vcordie> though you could do this:
#2943 [12:43] <vcordie> open the launcher
#2944 [12:44] <mr_fribble> idk
#2945 [12:44] <vcordie> go to advanced settings or whatever
#2946 [12:44] <vcordie> hit force update
#2947 [12:44] <vcordie> bang
#2948 [12:44] <mr_fribble> i could try
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#2950 [12:45] <LC98> Im downloading the newest version now... I think I might have had it already. I'll see what it does.
#2951 [12:45] <Yud_Zroc> LC98: did you uninstall ther previous version first?
#2952 [12:45] <LC98> yes
#2953 [12:46] <mr_fribble> how do ya do that
#2954 [12:46] <mr_fribble> i pressed force update an it didn't worked
#2955 [12:46] <LC98> still downloading...
#2956 [12:46] <mr_fribble> yes
#2957 [12:46] <LC98> ok done.
#2958 [12:47] <LC98> reinstall minecraft?
#2959 [12:47] <mr_fribble> i can try
#2960 [12:47] <mr_fribble> i do got pretty many copys of minecraft
#2961 [12:47] <vcordie> you have an infinite number of copies if you buy it
#2962 [12:47] <Yud_Zroc> LC98: just force update and try again
#2963 [12:47] <vcordie> that is how ALL games should be. I'm not going to pay for a copy of your work when I can reproduce that work without efort
#2964 [12:47] <mr_fribble> k
#2965 [12:48] <Yud_Zroc> LC98: may i open private convo with you
#2966 [12:48] <vcordie> just an arrangement of 1's and 0's.
#2967 [12:48] <LC98> sure.
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#2969 [12:49] <mr_fribble> ho?
#2970 [12:49] <mr_fribble> who*
#2971 [12:50] <mr_fribble> i dosen't work
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#2973 [12:51] <mr_fribble> wtf is wrong with my minecraft
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#2975 [12:52] <mr_fribble> i had some mods installed when i had minecraft 1.5
#2976 [12:53] <mr_fribble> hmm i think i just found the fail
#2977 [12:53] <mr_fribble> error*
#2978 [12:53] <Yud_Zroc> some mods expire when a new update becomes available
#2979 [12:54] * mib_tngtuh [mib_tngtuh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2980 [12:54] <mib_tngtuh> it wont let me run minecraft
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#2983 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Bye pachuco.
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#2988 [13:05] <flabbergaster> can i have some help please
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#2990 [13:06] <mr_evil> what pick do i need for diamond?
#2991 [13:06] <flabbergaster> ???
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#2993 [13:07] <flabbergaster> i can't run minecraft
#2994 [13:07] <Satchel_Adair> hello?
#2995 [13:07] <Yud_Zroc> mr_evil: iron pick or better
#2996 [13:07] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: state youe issue in detail plz
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#2998 [13:08] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go ),:
#2999 [13:08] <flabbergaster> i have downloaded minecraft but when ever i log in it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#3000 [13:08] <Yud_Zroc> whats your username
#3001 [13:09] <flabbergaster> fadelessclover
#3002 [13:09] <Yud_Zroc> !paid fadelessclover
#3003 [13:10] <Yud_Zroc> did you download it from minecraft.net
#3004 [13:10] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#3005 [13:10] <flabbergaster> also this comes up in a big grey box <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#3006 [13:11] <flabbergaster> yes i did
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#3009 [13:12] <flabbergaster> what do i need to do?
#3010 [13:12] <VoxelHead> mmm acdc
#3011 [13:12] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: operating system
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#3013 [13:13] <flabbergaster> operating system?
#3014 [13:13] <xales> flabbergaster: Your antivirus/firewall software is blocking the game from running
#3015 [13:13] <xales> please either disable it or add an exception for Minecraft
#3016 [13:14] <flabbergaster> ok ill try that
#3017 [13:14] <VoxelHead> when you coming back?
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#3019 [13:15] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: if your using a mac you need to give it permissions
#3020 [13:15] <flabbergaster> it says i have made it an exeption
#3021 [13:16] <flabbergaster> no im using pc
#3022 [13:18] <flabbergaster> surely if i disable fire wall ill get loads of viruses
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#3024 [13:19] <xales> Uh, no
#3025 [13:19] <LRWerewolf> flabbergaster: Disabling your firewall for a short period of time to test whether some bug is a matter of networking is not likely to create a significant vulnerability and is a viable diagnostic tool.
#3026 [13:20] <xales> ^
#3027 [13:20] <flabbergaster> how do i disable it?>
#3028 [13:21] <flabbergaster> ?
#3029 [13:21] <xales> I don't know. Look for an option
#3030 [13:21] <xales> I don't even know what firewall you are using, nor do I myself use it
#3031 [13:22] <LRWerewolf> By reading the very fine manual that came with it or is likely available on the company's site.
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#3033 [13:24] <VoxelHead> I like them -_-
#3034 [13:24] <flabbergaster> i think ive turned it off
#3035 [13:24] <ReverendD> Quick question for anyone who may know, Notch mentioned in the last update he added a new use for Bonemeal. Anyone know what that is besides fertilizer and dye?
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#3037 [13:25] <xales> ReverendD: http://minecraftwiki.net/
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#3039 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> ReverendD: grows flowers and shrooms
#3040 [13:26] <ReverendD> @xales, been checking this. Didn't see any updates there.
#3041 [13:26] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ReverendD: try bonemeal on grass
#3042 [13:26] <ReverendD> @Dope, so its the grass thing that might make flowers and mushrooms?
#3043 [13:27] <ReverendD> I will have to give it a shot then. Maybe I can start getting some of those red mushrooms thats so hard to find.
#3044 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> Tall grass, yes
#3045 [13:27] <ReverendD> Thanks guys.
#3046 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3047 [13:28] <VoxelHead> cheeeeeeeeers
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#3049 [13:29] <flabbergaster> do i need the latest version of java to play the game
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#3051 [13:29] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: yes
#3052 [13:30] <flabbergaster> for some reason i can't download it
#3053 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> what OS, flabbergaster?
#3054 [13:30] <flabbergaster> what?
#3055 [13:30] <flabbergaster> os?
#3056 [13:31] <Yud_Zroc> os = operating system
#3057 [13:31] <mr_evil> the minecraft site is really slow. can someone help me please?
#3058 [13:31] <xales> mr_evil: With..?
#3059 [13:31] <flabbergaster> windows xp
#3060 [13:31] <aikaramba> my pc froze
#3061 [13:31] <aikaramba> and now one place on rails is generating infinite minecarts
#3062 [13:31] <aikaramba> they keep spawning there
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#3064 [13:32] <aikaramba> ill try walking to different chunk and back
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#3067 [13:32] <xales> ??> flabbergaster getjava
#3068 [13:32] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#3069 [13:33] <Satchel_Adair> Does anyone else get severe lag in SMP
#3070 [13:33] <mib_mpvn11> how do you get citycraft to work when entering the main hub
#3071 [13:33] <Satchel_Adair> since the update
#3072 [13:33] <xales> Satchel_Adair: Not particularly, no. Have you tried other servers?
#3073 [13:33] <xales> ??> mib_mpvn11 mods
#3074 [13:33] <VoxelHead> mib_mpvn11: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3075 [13:33] <Satchel_Adair> a couple
#3076 [13:33] <VoxelHead> mib_mpvn11: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3077 [13:33] <dedmiston> i downloaded minecraft to my computer but when i try to play on my friends server it puts me in it but then it takes me out and says "out of memory please restart"
#3078 [13:34] <Satchel_Adair> i always log in the same way, Falling from the sky to the void
#3079 [13:34] <mr_evil> on citycraft does anyone know how to enter the main area
#3080 [13:34] <flabbergaster> the dowload didnt work
#3081 [13:34] <Satchel_Adair> then finally 15-20 blocks around me will render, but i am unable to interact with them
#3082 [13:34] <xales> flabbergaster: "didnt work" means absolutely nothing to us
#3083 [13:35] <xales> if you want us to help you, you have to tell us exactly why it didn't work, exactly what it said, what errors might have occured, etcetera
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#3085 [13:36] <xales> dedmiston: Are you able to play single player?
#3086 [13:36] <dedmiston> no
#3087 [13:36] <ReverendD> Okay, running the newest patch (1.6.6) and using Bonemeal on tall grass does nothing. It does not even reduce the amount of bonemeal I have. Anyone run into this?
#3088 [13:36] <xales> Satchel_Adair: try this server: minecraft.inafire.com
#3089 [13:37] <xales> ReverendD: I think you use it on normal grass or dirt
#3090 [13:37] <xales> dedmiston: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3091 [13:37] <Satchel_Adair> should i just type that into the MC launcher
#3092 [13:37] <ReverendD> @xales, thats the ticket. Thanks again.
#3093 [13:37] <xales> Satchel_Adair: yes
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#3095 [13:38] <mib_7z1l0s> i payed
#3096 [13:38] <mib_7z1l0s> but i didnt got the game
#3097 [13:38] <xales> Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3098 [13:38] <ArmEagle> sigh.. all this time since the nether-portals were first implemented.. and still Notch didn't fix the game to spawn a different return gate from where you entered the Nether in the first place..
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#3100 [13:39] <xales> ArmEagle: It's not..supposed to work like that
#3101 [13:39] <Satchel_Adair> xales: it disconnects me claiming that i am not whitelisted for that server
#3102 [13:39] <xales> bleh
#3103 [13:39] <xales> i turned the whitelist off >.>
#3104 [13:39] <xales> try now
#3105 [13:39] <Satchel_Adair> ok
#3106 [13:39] <ArmEagle> xales well imho it should :)
#3107 [13:40] <ArmEagle> first portal placed in the real world should just link to the portal in the nether
#3108 [13:40] <ArmEagle> (first placed in that world area)
#3109 [13:40] <Satchel_Adair> xales: Im currently falling
#3110 [13:41] <ArmEagle> at least the nether works in smp now
#3111 [13:41] <xales> Satchel_Adair: http://speedtest.net/ - what are the results? (run it while you are trying to connect to a Minecraft server)
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#3113 [13:41] <Satchel_Adair> now i have the 15-20 blocks immediately around me but no further
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#3115 [13:42] <flabbergaster> sorry my comp turned off
#3116 [13:43] <Satchel_Adair> xales: Ping=53 DL=24.2 UL =2.64
#3117 [13:43] <xales> Satchel_Adair: Open Task Manager while Minecraft is running - is the CPU usage above 45%?
#3118 [13:45] <dedmiston> xales singleplayer now works but multplayer doesnt and my ram is 1.0 GB
#3119 [13:45] <xales> yeah, that's the problem right there
#3120 [13:45] <xales> 1GB isn't really enough to run Minecraft properly
#3121 [13:45] <xales> (or anything modern, for that matter)
#3122 [13:45] <dedmiston> o k
#3123 [13:49] <flabbergaster> i only have 0.99gb of ram is that why i cant log in?
#3124 [13:49] <Satchel_Adair> im between 90-100%
#3125 [13:49] <Satchel_Adair> xales^
#3126 [13:50] <xales> Satchel_Adair: ah, that's the issue then
#3127 [13:50] <Satchel_Adair> the nether wasn't worth this. (shrugs)
#3128 [13:50] <xales> Minecraft compresses the world data so less bandwidth is used (and so servers actually _function_)
#3129 [13:50] <Satchel_Adair> how can i solve this
#3130 [13:50] <xales> it seems your CPU is struggling to decompress it
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#3133 [13:51] <xales> the only real solution is to upgrade it, which in most cases, is the hardest component to upgrade. possibly time to look to getting a new computer
#3134 [13:51] <Satchel_Adair> other than buy a new computer, is there any solution
#3135 [13:51] <xales> however, there are some other things to try
#3136 [13:51] <xales> close absolutely every single other program on your computer. every single one
#3137 [13:51] <xales> including antivirus, firewall, etc
#3138 [13:52] <flabbergaster> i only have 0.99gb of ram is that why i cant log in?
#3139 [13:52] <xales> flabbergaster: probably
#3140 [13:53] <flabbergaster> how can i fix this?
#3141 [13:53] <xales> get more RAM
#3142 [13:53] <flabbergaster> i know this will sound stupid but how?
#3143 [13:54] <xales> RAM is a physical component in your computer
#3144 [13:54] <Yud_Zroc> are you using a desktop or laptop
#3145 [13:54] <flabbergaster> laptop
#3146 [13:54] <xales> either get a new computer or find someone who knows how to find matching RAM, and how to install it, and get them to install more for you
#3147 [13:54] <xales> and if you have a laptop, upgrading RAM may not be possible at all
#3148 [13:55] <Yud_Zroc> if you want to put it in yourslef its more involved....if not find an tech to pay to do it, 1 gig on average is about $20
#3149 [13:55] <flabbergaster> so in other words i cant play the game on this laptop
#3150 [13:55] <Yud_Zroc> just for the memory
#3151 [13:55] <xales> pretty much
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#3153 [13:56] <Satchel_Adair> thanks for the help xales.
#3154 [13:56] <wsupfreshqt> Can someone help me with a problem i have logging into minecrafT?
#3155 [13:57] <Yud_Zroc> just ask the question
#3156 [13:58] <wsupfreshqt> ha, well Trying to log into minecraft gives me an error saying it's not downloaded so i've deleted it and redownloaded yet nothing
#3157 [13:58] <wsupfreshqt> :|
#3158 [13:58] <xales> What does it say _above_ "not downloaded"?
#3159 [13:58] <wsupfreshqt> Try again
#3160 [13:59] <flabbergaster> how much RAM will i need to run minecraft
#3161 [13:59] <flabbergaster> ?
#3162 [13:59] <xales> flabbergaster: 1.5GB should be enough, if you aren't running Windows Vista.
#3163 [13:59] <flabbergaster> xp
#3164 [13:59] <xales> wsupfreshqt: Your username or password is incorrect, or you have not paid for the game
#3165 [13:59] <xales> flabbergaster: that was not a question
#3166 [14:00] <flabbergaster> sorry
#3167 [14:00] <wsupfreshqt> Oh wow my pw wasn't correct :| I
#3168 [14:00] <wsupfreshqt> am an idiot
#3169 [14:00] <wsupfreshqt> thank you for the support :)
#3170 [14:00] <Yud_Zroc> lol it happens to the best of us
#3171 [14:00] <ReverendD> So am I correct that mushrooms still cannot be planted and harvested?
#3172 [14:00] <vcordie> yes, I think.
#3173 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> ReverendD: Bonemeal could cause fungi to spread now if I read the changelog correctly
#3174 [14:01] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: im running it off of 400available biutes of memory
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#3176 [14:01] <Yud_Zroc> 400megs
#3177 [14:01] <ReverendD> so I have to find fungi, but i cant plant fungi
#3178 [14:01] <Yud_Zroc> with windows xp if your system has 1gb of memory you should be fine.....vista i would recommend more
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#3180 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> 1.5GiB I would call the minimum for _any_ OS
#3181 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> as the game allocates 1GB for itself on startup
#3182 [14:03] <ReverendD> @Dope, can you not change the amount of ram allocated at startup with some config?
#3183 [14:03] <Larz`> Can someone help me? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/354629-running-slow/
#3184 [14:03] <Yud_Zroc> Larz`: minimal craft mod/texturepack
#3185 [14:04] <xolotl> ReverendD: You can plant mushrooms
#3186 [14:04] <xolotl> ReverendD: Though of course you DO have to find some first, so you have something to plant
#3187 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Yes. You can also dump ball-bearings into your fuel tank to reduce the amount of fuel your car needs to be topped off. Should you?
#3188 [14:05] <ReverendD> @xolotl, thanks. Last I knew mushrooms could not be planted.
#3189 [14:05] <xales> DopeGhoti: Oh yes, absolutely!
#3190 [14:05] <flabbergaster> well thanks for the help anyway
#3191 [14:05] <xales> What a creative way to save money
#3192 [14:05] <xales> ._.
#3193 [14:07] <flabbergaster> so that must mean theres another problem
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#3195 [14:08] <Larz`> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/354629-running-slow/ >.<
#3196 [14:09] <xales> Larz`: Map is probably corrupted or something, open it with mcedit and resave possibly
#3197 [14:09] <Larz`> hmhm
#3198 [14:09] <Larz`> maybe export important stuff to a other map
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#3200 [14:10] <Larz`> xales just load and save again or?..
#3201 [14:10] <flabbergaster> Yud_Zroc what does this mean? <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#3202 [14:10] <xales> Larz`: yes
#3203 [14:10] <Yud_Zroc> flabbergaster: could mean alot of things
#3204 [14:10] <xales> flabbergaster: as I already said, your antivirus software is blocking the game
#3205 [14:11] <Yud_Zroc> firewall, java not being updated. something is limited and blocking your connection
#3206 [14:11] <flabbergaster> i thought i disabled it
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#3208 [14:11] <xales> I guess not
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#3210 [14:12] <mib_zf062c> hello?
#3211 [14:12] <xales> Hi.
#3212 [14:13] <mib_zf062c> is this a minecraft support person?
#3213 [14:13] <xales> This is a community-run support channel on the EsperNet IRC network
#3214 [14:13] <mib_zf062c> so yes?
#3215 [14:14] <xales> I guess so
#3216 [14:14] <Larz`> It worked thx.
#3217 [14:14] <mib_zf062c> ok then theres something wrong with my minecraft
#3218 [14:14] <xales> Care to elaborate?
#3219 [14:14] <ReverendD> Quick lighting question for anyone. For torches, they create a light level of 14 at their base. How does this diffuse as you move away from the torch?
#3220 [14:15] <Yud_Zroc> we here at minecraft help, help people with your issues, and if you are mean we drop creapers in your mailbox
#3221 [14:15] <mib_zf062c> i made a bed but when i died i didnt repawn in it
#3222 [14:15] <xales> One level per square it travels, I think
#3223 [14:15] <Yud_Zroc> 1 per squard
#3224 [14:15] <ReverendD> @xales, thanks.
#3225 [14:15] <Yud_Zroc> and redstone is like 6 i think
#3226 [14:15] <ReverendD> ah, might use redstone in stead then.
#3227 [14:15] <xales> mib_zf062c: You have to click "leave bed" if you are playing SMP
#3228 [14:15] <Larz`> I'm going to paint a box, steal my dads pc replace it with the box and voila
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#3230 [14:15] <ReverendD> Redstone is 7.
#3231 [14:16] <mib_zf062c> im playing single player
#3232 [14:16] <xales> mib_zf062c: did you..USE the bed
#3233 [14:16] <xales> ?
#3234 [14:16] <mib_zf062c> i have to use it to start it
#3235 [14:16] <mib_zf062c> ?
#3236 [14:16] <xales> Yes.
#3237 [14:16] <mib_zf062c> o, well my house is somewhere and i cant find it
#3238 [14:17] <xales> I'm not really sure how you think we can help with that
#3239 [14:17] <Larz`> Make a new bed?
#3240 [14:17] <g> Best way is to use some isometric map viewer
#3241 [14:17] <g> but you'll have to find one yourself
#3242 [14:17] <Larz`> Or just /home command
#3243 [14:17] <Larz`> but hes gone
#3244 [14:17] <g> Larz`: single player derp
#3245 [14:17] <g> oh lol
#3246 [14:18] <Larz`> singleplayer commands :P
#3247 [14:18] <xolotl> /home doesn't work in vanilla SMP, btw
#3248 [14:18] <Larz`> Yeah i can jump again in my world
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#3250 [14:22] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :[
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#3254 [14:25] <thonger1232> hello
#3255 [14:25] <thonger1232> i need help
#3256 [14:25] <thonger1232> i cant play minecraft in the browser
#3257 [14:26] <Yud_Zroc> do you have the latest jva
#3258 [14:26] <Yud_Zroc> java
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#3260 [14:27] <thonger1232> uhm let me check
#3261 [14:28] <thonger1232> ohh and im playing in a mac book, if that helps
#3262 [14:29] <xales> Use the download version
#3263 [14:30] <thonger1232> i want to play online ?
#3264 [14:30] <thonger1232> but i cant join any servers on the downloaded one
#3265 [14:31] <xales> The game is the exact same in your browser as the download.
#3266 [14:31] <xales> Why can't you join servers?
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#3269 [14:31] <vcordie> fail internet is fail
#3270 [14:32] <thonger1232> i dont know that is kinda the main reason im here, all the servers i have tryd dont work
#3271 [14:32] <xales> Again
#3272 [14:32] <xales> "dont work" does not mean ANYTHING
#3273 [14:32] <xales> exactly, what happens, when you try to connect?
#3274 [14:32] <xales> Does it give you an error? Does the game close?
#3275 [14:33] <vcordie> set a ban on the word don't work. >_>
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#3277 [14:33] <LC98> Who was I just chatting with?
#3278 [14:33] <flabbergaster> mine does that in the browser
#3279 [14:33] <thonger1232> ohh sweet i got in to one
#3280 [14:33] <thonger1232> im sorry guys
#3281 [14:34] <thonger1232> i just bought this game like 20 minutes ago.
#3282 [14:34] <thonger1232> :)
#3283 [14:34] <VoxelHead> =)
#3284 [14:34] <thonger1232> how to i talk on servers ?
#3285 [14:35] <xales> T
#3286 [14:36] <thonger1232> ohh one last thing
#3287 [14:37] <thonger1232> where do i find good servers ?
#3288 [14:37] <xales> ??> thonger1232 smp/servers
#3289 [14:37] <VoxelHead> thonger1232: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3290 [14:37] <VoxelHead> thonger1232: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3291 [14:39] <thonger1232> thanks
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#3295 [14:44] <tryy3> someone here?
#3296 [14:44] <xales> Nope, we are all robots
#3297 [14:44] <tryy3> ok anyone got same problem as me who cant get in on minecraft (black screen)?
#3298 [14:44] <xales> What OS?
#3299 [14:45] <xales> Windows?
#3300 [14:45] <tryy3> ye
#3301 [14:45] <xales> ??> tryy3 win/reinst
#3302 [14:45] <VoxelHead> tryy3: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3303 [14:45] <VoxelHead> tryy3: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3304 [14:46] <tryy3> can texturepack be saved?
#3305 [14:46] <xales> No
#3306 [14:46] <tryy3> :(
#3307 [14:46] <xales> If you want to use a texturepack, re-add them after following those instructions
#3308 [14:47] <tryy3> ok
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#3310 [14:47] <tryy3> only saves can be left?
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#3312 [14:47] <xales> Yes.
#3313 [14:47] <ReverendD> Are you using any text packs larger than 16x?
#3314 [14:48] <ReverendD> If so, you may need to get the updated patcher.
#3315 [14:48] <ReverendD> I had the same prob after an update.
#3316 [14:48] <tryy3> yep and had the hd texture thing
#3317 [14:48] <ReverendD> Okay, download the updated patcher after a redownload and test. Shoudl fix the black screen if that was the issue.
#3318 [14:48] <tryy3> but the mojang come up than black screen
#3319 [14:48] <tryy3> and for like 10 min ago i played but wont work now
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#3321 [14:49] <ReverendD> The Mojang scren will come up black as well if the text pack also replaces it.
#3322 [14:49] <tryy3> now it work :)
#3323 [14:49] <ReverendD> The text pack I use does that.
#3324 [14:49] <tryy3> ohh
#3325 [14:49] <tryy3> maybe was that for :)
#3326 [14:50] <tryy3> now i need to reinstall all my mods -.-
#3327 [14:50] <ReverendD> yeah.
#3328 [14:51] <tryy3> any nice multiplayer 1.6 server up?
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#3330 [14:52] <Yud_Zroc> yes but 9/10 servers require you to be whitelisted
#3331 [14:52] <tryy3> ohh
#3332 [14:52] <Yud_Zroc> and that takes a few days
#3333 [14:52] <Yud_Zroc> i have mine up
#3334 [14:52] <Yud_Zroc> but its for private use
#3335 [14:52] <javahelp> I'm having issues getting Classic Single Player to run. When I try running it (and after authorizing all the required things), I get this message: "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create pixel format" and the game doesn't load. I'm running Mac OS X 10.6.7 and Firefox 3.6.13. Any thoughts?
#3336 [14:52] <tryy3> damn
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#3340 [14:53] <Lexe> lo
#3341 [14:53] <xales> Hi.
#3342 [14:53] <Lexe> I'm new to minecraft
#3343 [14:53] <xales> javahelp: Problem with your graphics card
#3344 [14:54] <tryy3> yud cant we play togheter on your? :)
#3345 [14:54] <Yud_Zroc> no, its for private use.....meaning
#3346 [14:54] <Yud_Zroc> you try....you die
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#3348 [14:54] <Lexe> is there a way to play full screen ?
#3349 [14:54] <tryy3> ok :(
#3350 [14:54] <javahelp> Can you be more specific? It was working yesterday and all I've done since then is install MCEdit (which I don't think should affect anything).
#3351 [14:55] <mib_5w88ue> hello?
#3352 [14:55] <xales> Lexe: F11
#3353 [14:55] <Lexe> ahh thank you
#3354 [14:55] <mib_5w88ue> hello
#3355 [14:55] <Yud_Zroc> tryy3: check your private messages
#3356 [14:55] <xales> Hello, mib_5w88ue
#3357 [14:55] <Yud_Zroc> mib_5w88ue: i see your back lol
#3358 [14:56] <xales> javahelp: Your graphics card is having some issue
#3359 [14:56] <Lexe> and who knows a good server without griefers ?
#3360 [14:56] <Awesomeness> My server
#3361 [14:56] <mib_5w88ue> i died and lost my mine and house, is there are a to transport to it
#3362 [14:56] <mib_5w88ue> ?
#3363 [14:56] <Awesomeness> It's a Terraria server tho
#3364 [14:56] <xales> No.
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#3367 [15:08] <Thoatt> HEY GUYS... YOU HERE?
#3368 [15:08] <Thoatt> I CAN HAZ HELP?
#3369 [15:08] <xales> :O
#3370 [15:08] <Thoatt> my mc no worky :(
#3371 [15:08] <VoxelHead> sacrebleu!
#3372 [15:08] <Thoatt> :P
#3373 [15:08] * Kealper rawrs
#3373 [15:08] <Thoatt> so sup? long time, no see, etc
#3374 [15:08] <Kealper> i'm doing that from now-on
#3375 [15:09] <Thoatt> afk though.. more yardwork >.>
#3376 [15:10] <xales> hay kealper
#3377 [15:10] <xales> /alias pkmn exec - -o printf \"FIGHT PKMN\nITEM RUN\""
#3378 [15:10] <xales> :>
#3379 [15:10] <VoxelHead> ;)
#3380 [15:10] <xales> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
#3381 [15:10] <xales> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
#3382 [15:10] <xales> :|
#3383 [15:11] <xales> I think I did it wrong
#3384 [15:11] <Kealper> /bin/sh: printf FIGHT: command not found
#3385 [15:11] <Kealper> /bin/sh: line 1: ITEM: command not found
#3386 [15:11] <Kealper> :<
#3387 [15:11] <xales> /alias pkmn exec - -o printf \"FIGHT PKMN\\nITEM RUN\""
#3388 [15:11] <xales> ^
#3389 [15:11] <xales> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
#3390 [15:11] <xales> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
#3391 [15:11] <xales> oh fuuuu
#3392 [15:11] <Kealper> i did /alias pkmn exec - -o "printf \"FIGHT PKMN\nITEM RUN\""
#3393 [15:12] <xales> two backslashes for the \n
#3394 [15:12] <g> :P
#3395 [15:12] <g> fail
#3396 [15:12] <xales> /alias pkmn exec -o printf \"FIGHT PKMN\\nITEM RUN\""
#3397 [15:12] <xales> maybe
#3398 [15:12] <Kealper> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
#3399 [15:12] <Kealper> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
#3400 [15:12] <Kealper> nope
#3401 [15:12] <Kealper> it sucks
#3402 [15:12] <xales> oh
#3403 [15:12] <xales> /alias pkmn exec - -o printf \"FIGHT PKMN\\nITEM RUN\"
#3404 [15:13] <xales> I had two quotes at the end
#3405 [15:13] <xales> ._..
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#3408 [15:14] <Kealper> ok...this is probably going to fail really hard
#3409 [15:14] <Kealper> so here goes it
#3410 [15:14] * Kealper rawrs"
#3410 [15:14] <Kealper> :<
#3411 [15:14] <xales> lol
#3412 [15:14] <xales> if you just want that
#3413 [15:14] <Kealper> woh...it did work though
#3414 [15:14] <xales> /alias rawr me rawr
#3415 [15:14] <xales> lol
#3416 [15:14] <Kealper> no, it was part of something more complex
#3417 [15:15] <xales> I see
#3418 [15:15] <VoxelHead> I like them =D.
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#3421 [15:16] <Kealper> AuBot >#MinecraftHelp A wild Kealper appears!
#3422 [15:16] * Kealper rawrs
#3422 [15:16] <Kealper> aww...it didn't do that right
#3423 [15:17] <xales> lol
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#3425 [15:17] <huddler> what if i can't find the ptions menu to update my minecraft
#3426 [15:18] <xales> Minecraft will prompt you to update when you run it
#3427 [15:18] <huddler> what if it doesn't do that
#3428 [15:18] <xales> What username are you logging into Minecraft with?
#3429 [15:18] <huddler> Fissure11
#3430 [15:19] <xales> ??> huddler win/reinst
#3431 [15:19] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3432 [15:19] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3433 [15:19] <huddler> how do i delete everything
#3434 [15:20] <xales> uh, you right click on it and press "delete"
#3435 [15:20] <huddler> ok... i'll try it thank you
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#3441 [15:38] <TinyTim77> wait so if i just ask a question someone will answer?
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#3443 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> TinyTim77: Yes. Next?
#3444 [15:42] <_303> he left ._.
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#3446 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> I know
#3447 [15:43] <PNGReg> Hey room. I got a question
#3448 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> Hey, entity. I've got an answer.
#3449 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> I might even trade.
#3450 [15:45] <PNGReg> I purchased, or so I believe, the game yesterday but it still says that I havent. Last night, I put in all my information and was prompted to a screen that said that it had failed but when I clicked the link to go back, it said the purchase was complete. Im not sure if it was successful or not. I have not been charged but I dont want to try again and be
#3451 [15:45] <PNGReg> charged twice, or even more, if it does go through.
#3452 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> What is the account name you selected?
#3453 [15:46] <PNGReg> PNGreg
#3454 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> !paid PNGReg
#3455 [15:46] <PNGReg> So, It didn't work?
#3456 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Have you taken a look at your bank statement to see whether a transaction is still pending?
#3457 [15:46] <PNGReg> It wasn't last night.
#3458 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> This is an international transaction; those can take some time to go through with smaller banks.
#3459 [15:47] <PNGReg> Oh, okay. Thank you:)
#3460 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> If you still do not see a pending transaction by tomorrow, call the bank to make sure; then try the purchase again
#3461 [15:47] <PNGReg> I will keep an eye out on it. Thank you.
#3462 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> if you _do_ get double-charged, I'm sure one of the transactions can be reversed
#3463 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
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#3466 [15:50] <AwesomeSauce> heelo
#3467 [15:51] <Frank> my minecaf tthing keeps turning black after it loads is there anyway to fix that
#3468 [15:51] <ReverendD> @Frank, are you using HD textures?
#3469 [15:51] <AwesomeSauce> im not a helper dude
#3470 [15:51] <Frank> idk
#3471 [15:51] <ReverendD> Have you installed any other texture packs or just the game?
#3472 [15:52] <AwesomeSauce> whenever U log on my own sever with this account it says Failed to connect to server, it works for everyone else but me
#3473 [15:52] <AwesomeSauce> *I
#3474 [15:52] <Frank> i tried to install the a mod called more creeps and weirdos
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#3476 [15:52] <fruit> hello
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#3478 [15:52] <ReverendD> @Frank, try removing the mod and testing. If the mod isnt up to date for 1.6.6 it amy cause that
#3479 [15:52] <AwesomeSauce> hey fruit
#3480 [15:53] <AwesomeSauce> hey baka
#3481 [15:53] <Baka|cuttinghairqq> hey
#3482 [15:53] <fruit> can u help me with minecraft
#3483 [15:53] <AwesomeSauce> about?
#3484 [15:53] <ReverendD> @Frank, what OS you running?
#3485 [15:53] <Frank> u ididnt really install it and it is up to date for 1.6.6
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#3487 [15:53] <AwesomeSauce> hello zouhair
#3488 [15:53] <fruit> i tried to buy the game and everytime i try to it rejects my credit card
#3489 [15:54] <zouhair> hi
#3490 [15:54] <AwesomeSauce> is your credit card frozen or cancled?
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#3492 [15:54] <fruit> nope
#3493 [15:54] <zouhair> ?
#3494 [15:54] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#3495 [15:54] <fruit> it says bank transaction failed
#3496 [15:54] <Frank> and by i didnt really install it i mean thatlike i applied something but didnt work so i stopped it but yeah
#3497 [15:54] <AwesomeSauce> @Fruit Do you have money under your credit card?
#3498 [15:55] <fruit> ya
#3499 [15:55] <ReverendD> @Fruit, do you have enough on the account, is it a gift card, or does your financial isntitution not support changing money from one currancy to another?
#3500 [15:55] <ReverendD> @Frank, if you applied it then it is installed. You may have to reinstall the game to get it working again.
#3501 [15:55] <AwesomeSauce> Hey reverendD, i know some bout minecraft, so i can help some people.
#3502 [15:56] <Frank> how do i do that im only ten
#3503 [15:56] <fruit> yes theres enought to cover the game. I tried a prepaid visa but it wouldnt except it
#3504 [15:56] <ReverendD> lol okay, go for it. I am just on break checkign whats up.
#3505 [15:56] <AwesomeSauce> k
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#3507 [15:56] <Baka|cuttinghairqq> can someone help me?
#3508 [15:56] <AwesomeSauce> kk
#3509 [15:56] <AwesomeSauce> Baka :d
#3510 [15:56] <fruit> yes theres enought to cover the game. I tried a prepaid visa but it wouldnt except it.
#3511 [15:56] <AwesomeSauce> what do you need help with?
#3512 [15:57] <fruit> yes theres enought to cover the game. I tried a prepaid visa but it wouldnt except it
#3513 [15:57] <Frank> awesome sauce how do i reinstall the game
#3514 [15:57] <ReverendD> @Fruit, not sure if they accept pre-paid cards. Some places may not handle them correctly, especially if there is a currency exchange. eg. US to EU
#3515 [15:57] <AwesomeSauce> delete it
#3516 [15:57] <Baka> i bought minecraft and everything worked fine, but since today when i try to login it says "Login fail..."
#3517 [15:57] <Baka> and after i try it longer "No Premium" or something like that
#3518 [15:57] <AwesomeSauce> did you update
#3519 [15:58] <Baka> yeah
#3520 [15:58] <fruit> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3521 [15:58] <ReverendD> @Frank, to add more to Awesomes reply, you can remove the folders in your .minecraft folder, all except for your save games. Then run the minecraft exe again and it will download the files
#3522 [15:58] <Frank> i need to delete the game
#3523 [15:58] <AwesomeSauce> Sorry
#3524 [15:58] <fruit> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3525 [15:59] <AwesomeSauce> I was afk
#3526 [15:59] <fruit> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3527 [15:59] * xales kicked fruit from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Stop spamming)
#3528 [15:59] <xales> ??> Frank win/reinst
#3529 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Frank: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#3531 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Frank: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3532 [15:59] <AwesomeSauce> Baka, did you try to delete and download again, mabey your game was corrupt?
#3533 [15:59] <Frank> awesome sauce did u say i need to delete the gameeee
#3534 [16:00] <Baka> yeah already tried and it didn't work
#3535 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> yes
#3536 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> Wait
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#3538 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> i cant talke to two people at once
#3539 [16:00] <FRUIT> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3540 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> VoxelHead, i there?
#3541 [16:00] <Baka> and on minecrafte.net it says i can't change skin because i haven't bought the game yet
#3542 [16:00] <VoxelHead> cabbages
#3543 [16:00] <xales> Baka: If it says "user not premium" then you have not paid for the game, or your account has not yet been marked premium
#3544 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> Did you buy the game?
#3545 [16:00] <AwesomeSauce> @Baka
#3546 [16:00] <Frank> um i did that but i didnt see a save file there
#3547 [16:00] <xales> Frank: Then it failed
#3548 [16:00] <xales> err
#3549 [16:00] <xales> Frank: Then just delete everything
#3550 [16:01] <AwesomeSauce> Baka, did uou buy it?
#3551 [16:01] <Baka> i could play it about a week
#3552 [16:01] <FRUIT> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3553 [16:01] <Baka> and it WAS a premium
#3554 [16:01] <AwesomeSauce> oh.
#3555 [16:01] <Frank> um ok so will that delete the worlds on minecraft that i have
#3556 [16:01] <Baka> i bought it with paypal
#3557 [16:01] <xales> FRUIT: We heard you the first time. Call your financial institution. We cannot help you
#3558 [16:01] <ReverendD> @Frank, do not delete the save folder and your worlds will eb safe
#3559 [16:01] <xales> ??> Baka account
#3560 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Baka: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3561 [16:01] <AwesomeSauce> so you boguth the game, then it worked for a week, then said ur not premium.
#3562 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Baka: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3563 [16:01] <FRUIT> it didnt except but then i tried a credit card and it sayed bank transaction failed
#3564 [16:01] * xales kicked FRUIT from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Stop spamming.)
#3565 [16:02] <AwesomeSauce> Baka, i can help you though.
#3566 [16:02] <Frank> ok but i cant see a save folder wen i did that
#3567 [16:02] <Baka> thx voxel and how sauce?
#3568 [16:02] <AwesomeSauce> Oh hey so someone whos not me, nvm
#3569 [16:02] <ReverendD> @Frank, you went to Start > Run, typed in %appdata%, opened the .minecraft folder?
#3570 [16:02] <AwesomeSauce> How what?
#3571 [16:02] <Frank> yes
#3572 [16:03] <AwesomeSauce> Did the bank transaction fail, so it glitched and gave you premium for a week?
#3573 [16:03] <ReverendD> @Frank, and you do not see a "saves" folder?
#3574 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> (Fruit banned for three days. Meat for everyone!)
#3575 [16:03] <AwesomeSauce> COOL
#3576 [16:03] <AwesomeSauce> free meat.
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#3578 [16:03] <AwesomeSauce> @baka, you still there?
#3579 [16:03] <Baka> don't know, i think i'll look that up
#3580 [16:03] <Frank> umm oh i think this is it yeah i found it someone must of changed the name ok ill delete the stuff
#3581 [16:03] <AwesomeSauce> ok.
#3582 [16:03] <VoxelHead> must what?
#3583 [16:04] <Baka> thx for now :3
#3584 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> np
#3585 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> im dont even work here XD
#3586 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> im just helping :D
#3587 [16:04] <ReverendD> @Frank, once you delete it run the minecraft exe again and it will redownload all the udpated files
#3588 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> Hey captianfool
#3589 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> Do you need help?
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#3591 [16:04] <AwesomeSauce> shmoo, do you need help?
#3592 [16:05] <Frank> do i also delete the recources folder
#3593 [16:05] <ReverendD> @Frank, yes
#3594 [16:05] <Frank> ok thx
#3595 [16:05] <ReverendD> @Frank leave only the saves
#3596 [16:05] <ReverendD> Np
#3597 [16:05] <AwesomeSauce> Hey ReverendD?
#3598 [16:05] <ReverendD> Thats me.
#3599 [16:06] <AwesomeSauce> I got a problem.
#3600 [16:06] <shmoo> my pikaxes dont work right when i spwan them. it gives them to me one at a time and fills my inventory. is there someone here that can help me with this?
#3601 [16:06] <ReverendD> Dont we all? :P
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#3603 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> shmoo: tools don't stack
#3604 [16:06] <AwesomeSauce> lol
#3605 [16:06] <mr_fribble> hi
#3606 [16:06] <AwesomeSauce> Hey
#3607 [16:06] <shmoo> y
#3608 [16:06] <AwesomeSauce> You need help?>
#3609 [16:06] <ReverendD> What you got? Got a couple minutes left.
#3610 [16:06] <mr_fribble> yes
#3611 [16:06] <mr_fribble> my game crash
#3612 [16:07] <AwesomeSauce> Why?
#3613 [16:07] <mr_fribble> about java
#3614 [16:07] <mr_fribble> i tink
#3615 [16:07] <shmoo> how do i fix it?
#3616 [16:07] <mr_fribble> think*
#3617 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_fribble error
#3618 [16:07] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
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#3620 [16:07] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3621 [16:07] <Frank> the games working but someone said my worlds would of been ok
#3622 [16:07] <mr_fribble> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7009963a, pid=5828, tid=5908 # # JRE version: 6.0_22-b04 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (17.1-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [aticfx32.dll+0x3963a]
#3623 [16:07] <xales> ??> mr_fribble pastebin
#3624 [16:07] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#3625 [16:07] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#3626 [16:07] <AwesomeSauce> Who wants my help/
#3627 [16:08] <AwesomeSauce> *?
#3628 [16:08] <AwesomeSauce> Who is waiting?
#3629 [16:08] <Frank> me again
#3630 [16:08] <ReverendD> @Frank, as long as you left the saves folder they shoudl still be accesiable as long as they are not corrupt
#3631 [16:08] <mr_fribble> ok sorry
#3632 [16:08] <AwesomeSauce> Hey, someone who works here.
#3633 [16:08] <ReverendD> @Frank, depending on the mod you attempted to install, I think some can change the world to the point wher ethey do not play correctly with the plain game anymore, but I could be wrong on this.
#3634 [16:09] <ReverendD> @Awesome, no one really works here, we help freely.
#3635 [16:09] <AwesomeSauce> lol fine
#3636 [16:09] <ReverendD> lol
#3637 [16:09] <Frank> i left the saves folder but it did delete the world and it wasnt curropt
#3638 [16:09] <AwesomeSauce> Volenteers,
#3639 [16:09] <_303> ReverendD: not really. unknown blocks and items and mobs are purged, except in chests and lying on the ground
#3640 [16:09] <AwesomeSauce> So ReverendD
#3641 [16:09] <mr_fribble> http://pastebin.com/jHVqFJQW
#3642 [16:09] <ReverendD> @303, tahnks. I wasnt sure about that.
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#3645 [16:10] <xales> mr_fribble: That's not the entire error. Anyway, update your AMD graphics card driver.
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#3647 [16:10] <shmoo> is there a way that lets me stack items
#3648 [16:10] <mr_fribble> ok
#3649 [16:10] <AwesomeSauce> Whenever I try to log onto my server, no matter what computer, when im on my account. I tells me Can Not connect to server.
#3650 [16:10] <ReverendD> @Frank, not sure then Frank.
#3651 [16:10] <mr_fribble> i will try
#3652 [16:10] <Frank> ok thx for the help bye
#3653 [16:10] <mr_fribble> to update drivers then i say something
#3654 [16:10] <ReverendD> @Awesome, did you ad yourself to your whitelist/op list?
#3655 [16:10] <AwesomeSauce> I can wright the exact error if u want.
#3656 [16:10] <AwesomeSauce> Yup
#3657 [16:11] <Schurke> hi :-)
#3658 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> Im whitelisted and oped
#3659 [16:11] <ReverendD> @Awesome, did you open/allow through the firewall?
#3660 [16:11] <xales> AwesomeSauce: Wrong IP, or, for some reason, a connection cannot be made. Possibly a failure to port forward if behind NAT, or a firewall preventing Minecraft from accepting incoming connections
#3661 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> strange
#3662 [16:11] <shmoo> how do i stack diamond piks again?
#3663 [16:11] <xales> shmoo: You can't
#3664 [16:11] <ReverendD> @Awesome, also make sure you using the correct port.
#3665 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> ive been able to get on since update,
#3666 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> i did update
#3667 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> kk
#3668 [16:11] <shmoo> y cant i anymore?]
#3669 [16:11] <Schurke> i have a minecraft redstone circuit problem and have recorded it for better understanding
#3670 [16:11] <AwesomeSauce> and the server is updated to
#3671 [16:11] <Schurke> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EovkIi1OvFY
#3672 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> This is the first time ever.
#3673 [16:12] <ReverendD> @shmoo, you have never been able to stack tools as far as I know.
#3674 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> I did the same as usual.
#3675 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> Schurke
#3676 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> I can help u.
#3677 [16:12] <xales> AwesomeSauce: As I said, your IP probably changed or something
#3678 [16:12] <ReverendD> @Awesome, without knowing your network setup I cannot really say other than what zales mentioned.
#3679 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> mk
#3680 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> OHHHH
#3681 [16:12] <Schurke> thanks
#3682 [16:12] <AwesomeSauce> I know now.
#3683 [16:13] <Schurke> tricky isnt it?
#3684 [16:13] <AwesomeSauce> Im using the personal port, that used to work. but in the update they fixed the bug. And now i have to use the other port to the server.
#3685 [16:14] <AwesomeSauce> No wonder, im the only one that gets on with that IP
#3686 [16:14] <Schurke> i've built this for a simple door opener (button) :-)
#3687 [16:14] <AwesomeSauce> Schurke
#3688 [16:14] <Schurke> yes?
#3689 [16:14] <AwesomeSauce> im gunna watch the video and see whats wrong
#3690 [16:14] <Schurke> thanks
#3691 [16:14] <AwesomeSauce> np
#3692 [16:14] <Schurke> just want to give some more background info
#3693 [16:15] <AwesomeSauce> kk
#3694 [16:15] <AwesomeSauce> shoot.
#3695 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Shooooooooooooooooot.
#3696 [16:15] <AwesomeSauce> D:
#3697 [16:15] <Schurke> soccer?
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#3699 [16:16] <AwesomeSauce> ...
#3700 [16:16] <AwesomeSauce> lol
#3701 [16:16] <AwesomeSauce> dude i know ur problem
#3702 [16:16] * VoxelHead waves
#3702 [16:16] <AwesomeSauce> Its not a bug
#3703 [16:16] <Vivek> lol vox is going crazy :D
#3704 [16:17] <AwesomeSauce> Lol u know
#3705 [16:17] <AwesomeSauce> *i
#3706 [16:17] <Schurke> hm, what have i done wrong?
#3707 [16:17] <AwesomeSauce> Si Shurke
#3708 [16:17] <AwesomeSauce> *So
#3709 [16:17] <Vivek> its usually a bit weird though, compared to the others
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#3711 [16:18] <AwesomeSauce> The problem isnt a bug, its the way you alighned the redstone+torches.
#3712 [16:18] <Vivek> thats why i like it, it spews out random stuff thats so funny
#3713 [16:18] <AwesomeSauce> keep it all on ground level
#3714 [16:18] <AwesomeSauce> lol nice wording.
#3715 [16:18] <guacamole> is anyones minecraft crashed or is it just me
#3716 [16:18] <AwesomeSauce> U tryed to download any texture packs/mods?
#3717 [16:19] <AwesomeSauce> Guacamole
#3718 [16:19] <Schurke> yeah, just a simple one
#3719 [16:19] <guacamole> yesterday but it was working fine
#3720 [16:19] <xales> ??> guacamole win/reinst
#3721 [16:19] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3722 [16:19] <AwesomeSauce> So what is your problem
#3723 [16:19] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3725 [16:20] <guacamole> thanks
#3726 [16:20] <AwesomeSauce> Schurke, The problem isnt a bug, its the way you alighned the redstone+torches.
#3727 [16:20] <AwesomeSauce> Gtg
#3728 [16:20] <AwesomeSauce> peace
#3729 [16:20] <Vivek> bye
#3730 [16:20] <Schurke> yes, i read it
#3731 [16:21] <Schurke> i am pondering about this problem
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#3733 [16:22] <Schurke> this torch output i visualized, over this torch is the door
#3734 [16:22] <jghall1> i need help
#3735 [16:22] <Vivek> whats your problem?
#3736 [16:22] <xales> ??> jghall1 ask
#3737 [16:22] <VoxelHead> jghall1: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3738 [16:22] <VoxelHead> jghall1: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#3741 [16:23] <jghall1> i am getting memory error mesages from in browser minecraft
#3742 [16:23] <xales> Use the download client
#3743 [16:23] <jghall1> in download i am getting exception access violation error
#3744 [16:23] <xales> ?? error
#3745 [16:23] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#3746 [16:23] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3747 [16:24] <Schurke> the thing is, it has worked the last two days....
#3748 [16:24] <jghall1> download error
#3749 [16:24] <jghall1> #
#3750 [16:24] <jghall1> hmm not pasting it all
#3751 [16:24] <jghall1> hold on
#3752 [16:24] <xales> jghall1: Again, you have to use pastebin.com
#3753 [16:25] <mr_fribble> yupie
#3754 [16:25] <mr_fribble> hehehe
#3755 [16:25] <mr_fribble> tanks
#3756 [16:25] <mr_fribble> it works
#3757 [16:25] <jghall1> http://pastebin.com/PPK4hPbE
#3758 [16:25] <VoxelHead> =D
#3759 [16:25] <Lexe> <-- nooby looking for a server
#3760 [16:25] <mr_fribble> i updated my drivers
#3761 [16:25] <mr_fribble> tanks
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#3763 [16:26] <xales> jghall1: Update your video card drivers
#3764 [16:26] <jghall1> how do i do that?
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#3766 [16:27] <xales> Do you know what video card you have?
#3767 [16:27] <jghall1> no
#3768 [16:27] <xales> ??> jghall1 win/dxdiag
#3769 [16:27] <VoxelHead> jghall1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3770 [16:27] <jghall1> i dont no what a video card is
#3771 [16:27] <VoxelHead> jghall1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3773 [16:27] <jghall1> i did
#3774 [16:27] <jghall1> wait what?
#3775 [16:28] <jghall1> which file?
#3776 [16:28] <jghall1> o i see
#3777 [16:28] <mmogameable> hey! i need some help. i have problem with running the game:-(
#3778 [16:28] <jghall1> win key?
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#3780 [16:29] <jghall1> voxelhead what is the win key?
#3781 [16:29] <mmogameable> are you talking to me?
#3782 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Coffee!
#3783 [16:29] <Lexe> anyone know a good server for a noob like me ?
#3784 [16:29] <jghall1> www.gokinggo.com is a good one
#3785 [16:29] <Boreeas> vox...
#3786 [16:29] <mmogameable> i need help!
#3787 [16:30] <Schurke> you gave me the tip of building on ground level, but don't i have to put the torches on blocks for different logic behaviour?
#3788 [16:30] <Boreeas> Lexe: try #smp
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#3790 [16:30] <xales> ??> jghall1 win/key
#3791 [16:30] <Boreeas> ??> mmogameable ask
#3792 [16:30] <VoxelHead> jghall1: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#3793 [16:30] <VoxelHead> mmogameable: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3794 [16:30] <VoxelHead> mmogameable: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3795 [16:31] <jghall1> working on it voxelhead dont leave
#3796 [16:31] <mmogameable> i have a problem with running the server, and i wonder if anyone of you can help me with that
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#3798 [16:31] <Lexe> also looks like screenhunter and minecraft dont mix lol
#3799 [16:31] <xales> mmogameable: We can't help you if you don't tell us what the problem is
#3800 [16:31] * Vivek hands voxelhead some coffee =)
#3800 [16:31] <VoxelHead> tanks
#3801 [16:31] <VoxelHead> mmmmm...
#3802 [16:31] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee =]
#3802 [16:32] <Vivek> lol
#3803 [16:32] <mmogameable> the problem that the game just quit with no reson
#3804 [16:32] <xales> When does it quit?
#3805 [16:32] * Boreeas slaps VoxelHead with a lawyer
#3805 [16:32] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#3805 [16:32] <VoxelHead> Mmmm... thanks :)
#3806 [16:32] <VoxelHead> ow! my dicksack! that was my spare one
#3807 [16:32] <mmogameable> after 1 miute
#3808 [16:32] <mmogameable> minute*
#3809 [16:32] <nickbass95> Would one of you guys be able to help me install minecraft? I'm having problems
#3810 [16:32] <VoxelHead> bye sarkdog
#3811 [16:33] <xales> nickbass95: What "problems"?
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#3813 [16:33] <xales> mmogameable: Is Minecraft crashing, or is the server?
#3814 [16:33] <mmogameable> minecraft is crashing
#3815 [16:33] <xales> ??> mmogameable win/reinst
#3816 [16:33] <VoxelHead> mmogameable: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3817 [16:33] <VoxelHead> mmogameable: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3818 [16:33] <jghall1> voxelhead im sry im not gonna do that becuz it is all my system info and u could use that against me
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#3820 [16:34] <mmogameable> thanks, i am gonna try:-)
#3821 [16:34] <nickbass95> I'm on xp. The first link doesn't work because my computer can't use a MIME file, and the second link loads the launcher fine, and then black screens as soon as you log in.
#3822 [16:34] <mib_o2o2yk> I payed to download Minecraft, how do I get the Alpha
#3823 [16:34] <xales> jghall1: That is kind of the point, is that it has the information on your system
#3824 [16:34] <VoxelHead> and then a sheep came
#3825 [16:34] <jghall1> nickbass same thing happens to me
#3826 [16:34] <xales> jghall1: Nothing on it is personally identifiable or could be used for a malicious purpose
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#3828 [16:34] <jghall1> xales i dont have any reason to believe u
#3829 [16:35] <xales> mib_o2o2yk: Alpha does not exist any more. http://minecraft.net/download.jsp is where you go to download Beta
#3830 [16:35] <nickbass95> jghall: glad to know that I'm not the only one
#3831 [16:35] <jghall1> does it give u access violation error too nickbass95?
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#3833 [16:35] <xales> jghall1: Oh no, I know what sound card you have
#3834 [16:35] <xales> That means absolutely nothing to me
#3835 [16:35] <jghall1> sry exception access violation
#3836 [16:35] <nickbass95> No error messages, unfortunately
#3837 [16:35] <xales> Anyway, if you don't want to provide us with the information on the hardware on your computer, we can't help you find the driver to install so that Minecraft works
#3838 [16:36] <xales> ??> nickbass95 win/reinst
#3839 [16:36] <VoxelHead> nickbass95: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3840 [16:36] <VoxelHead> nickbass95: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3841 [16:36] <jghall1> i deleted the whole .minecraft folder
#3842 [16:36] <jghall1> it didnt help
#3843 [16:36] <xales> jghall1: Those were instructions for someone else, not you
#3844 [16:36] <nickbass95> I don't think I can do that, because minecraft never installed.
#3845 [16:36] <jghall1> yah but we have the same problems
#3846 [16:37] <xales> nickbass95: There is no "install" - just by running it, it places those files
#3847 [16:37] <Lexe> ok wtf, on every server ur inventory is empty again ?
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#3849 [16:37] <xales> jghall1: No, you don't
#3850 [16:37] <jghall1> 'same but i still have .minecraft folder
#3851 [16:37] <bradyrussell24> I payed for Minecraft, but how do I get the Alpha version?
#3852 [16:37] <xales> Lexe: Yes
#3853 [16:37] <jghall1> xales how the heck would u no?
#3854 [16:37] <xales> bradyrussell24: Alpha does not exist any more. http://minecraft.net/download.jsp is where you go to download Beta
#3855 [16:37] <nickbass95> Places where? I never had to choose/set up a folder.
#3856 [16:37] <xales> jghall1: Because of the error report?
#3857 [16:37] <Schurke> hm, i want to understand the redstone ground problem, so i don't run again into this kind of problem. i have built it on design A of minecraft wiki. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:T_flip-flop.gif)
#3858 [16:37] <bradyrussell24> Ok, now how do I play online? It never lets me connect
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#3860 [16:38] <xales> nickbass95: It places them in the system application data file. There is no installation.
#3861 [16:38] <jghall1> no we both cant open one and other blacks screens and closes
#3862 [16:38] <Lexe> gokinggo.com kicks me off for some reason :(
#3863 [16:38] <xales> nickbass95: Just follow the instructions
#3864 [16:38] <jghall1> nickbass95 xales is right
#3865 [16:38] <jghall1> did u register?
#3866 [16:38] <nickbass95> Okay. Sorry, I'm not the greatest with computers and software.
#3867 [16:38] <Lexe> i did
#3868 [16:38] <xales> jghall1: Again, the problems are different. If you know so much about how Minecraft works that you know they are the same problem, then why are you here asking for _my_ help?
#3869 [16:39] <jghall1> wait did they ask u who u were?
#3870 [16:39] <nickbass95> Yes, I registered and paid.
#3871 [16:39] <jghall1> becuz there is no OTHER help xales!!!!!!!!!!!1
#3872 [16:39] <jghall1> lexe did they ask who u were?
#3873 [16:39] <leaper> hi i have been playing minecraft classic in browser for a month and never had a problem. today all i get is a black screen. i have used 3 different browsers "chrome, firefox, IE" and i get the same problem in all browsers. the rest of the page loads, the title flashes in the game box and then goes black
#3874 [16:40] <bradyrussell24> Ok, now how do I play online? It never lets me connect to any servers.
#3875 [16:40] <xales> ??> leaper win/reinst
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#3877 [16:40] <VoxelHead> leaper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3878 [16:40] <VoxelHead> leaper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3879 [16:40] <xales> bradyrussell24: What do you mean "never lets me connect"?
#3880 [16:40] <Lexe> i dont know they kicked me just like that, some server that is lol
#3881 [16:40] <leaper> my java is updated too
#3882 [16:40] <jghall1> it is my friends
#3883 [16:40] <leaper> i have deleted the appdata folder and i still cant play
#3884 [16:40] <jghall1> he worrys bout griefer
#3885 [16:40] <bradyrussell24> I type in the IP for the server I want to join and it says connection failed.
#3886 [16:40] <xales> bradyrussell24: Then the server is not running
#3887 [16:40] <jghall1> he bans anyone he doesnt no
#3888 [16:40] <Lexe> lol :(
#3889 [16:41] <jghall1> im sorry lexe i knew u were going to get banned
#3890 [16:41] <Lexe> oh well, know any OTHER servers then
#3891 [16:41] <bradyrussell24> So, the new beta should let me play on running servers?
#3892 [16:41] <xales> bradyrussell24: Yes.
#3893 [16:41] <jghall1> no sry lexe
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#3895 [16:41] <Lexe> tell ur friend to let me back in then ?
#3896 [16:41] <leaper> heloo?
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#3898 [16:41] <xales> jghall1: If you are not going to provide useful advice and don't need help with anything, I am going to have to ask you to leave
#3899 [16:41] <xales> leaper: Try using the download version.
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#3901 [16:42] <bradyrussell24> I found a list of servers that are online 100% of the time and it still wouldn't let me connect.
#3902 [16:42] <leaper> i dont watn to pay i want to play classic
#3903 [16:43] <xales> bradyrussell24: What, exactly, does it say?
#3904 [16:43] <xales> leaper: Completely uninstall Java, restart your computer, then install it again
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#3906 [16:44] <bradyrussell24> Failed to connect to server. Connection Timed out:connect
#3907 [16:44] <bradyrussell24> Something like that
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#3909 [16:44] <skorn> i have never played minecraft and im trying to install it. everytime i try to run the installer it says "could not create the java virtual machine." can anyone help me with this
#3910 [16:44] <xales> bradyrussell24: Try this server: s.nerd.nu
#3911 [16:44] <xales> skorn: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3912 [16:44] <skorn> i just updatd java also
#3913 [16:45] <skorn> 2g
#3914 [16:45] <Lexe> does anyone know a good server, where i can join as a NEW minecraft player ??
#3915 [16:45] <xales> skorn: Do you have any antivirus program running?
#3916 [16:45] <skorn> bitdefender
#3917 [16:45] <bradyrussell24> I used s.nerd.nu and it said "Connection Lost. Failed to login:bad login."
#3918 [16:46] <xales> Try disabling it or adding an exception for Java and Minecraft.
#3919 [16:46] <xales> bradyrussell24: What username are you logging in with?
#3920 [16:46] <skorn> ok ty.
#3921 [16:46] <bradyrussell24> bradyrussell24
#3922 [16:47] <xales> bradyrussell24: Did you "try" Minecraft before buying it?
#3923 [16:47] <bradyrussell24> What do you mean "try"?
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#3925 [16:47] <xales> Okay then, let me rephrase that
#3926 [16:47] <xales> Did you play Minecraft Beta (or alpha) before you paid for it (if you lie, and it ends up you have, then you will not get help in fixing the problem)
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#3928 [16:48] <bradyrussell24> My friend gave me the Beta 1.4_01. I don't know if it was the official version, but he said he got it for free and I could use it.
#3929 [16:49] <xales> So yes, you did play an illegal/pirated version of Minecraft, and therein lies the problem ._.
#3930 [16:49] <xales> ??> bradyrussell24 win/hosts
#3931 [16:49] <VoxelHead> bradyrussell24: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#3932 [16:49] <VoxelHead> bradyrussell24: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#3933 [16:49] <nickbass95> I'm sorry to report that it didn't work. Does anybody have any other suggestions?
#3934 [16:49] <bradyrussell24> So it was a cracked version that he gave me?
#3935 [16:49] <xales> Yes.
#3936 [16:49] <bradyrussell24> Of course
#3937 [16:49] <xales> nickbass95: You tried deleting everything in the '.minecraft' folder?
#3938 [16:50] <bradyrussell24> I found the hosts file, but there's 2 of them
#3939 [16:50] <Lexe> is there a seperate channel to find players/servers ?
#3940 [16:51] <xales> bradyrussell24: Copy the contents of both of them to pastebin.com then
#3941 [16:51] <xales> Lexe: #smp
#3942 [16:52] <nickbass95> Can anybody help me with my black screen problem?
#3943 [16:52] <nickbass95> Whoops, my bad. Yes. Everything but the saves, like you said.
#3944 [16:52] <VoxelHead> you blithering idiot!
#3945 [16:52] <xales> VoxelHead: shut up
#3946 [16:52] <VoxelHead> nnk
#3947 [16:52] <xales> nickbass95: anyway
#3948 [16:52] <bradyrussell24> It will only let me open 1 of them with Notepad
#3949 [16:53] <xales> bradyrussell24: then copy that one to pastebin
#3950 [16:53] <xales> ??> nickbass95 win/dxdiag
#3951 [16:53] <VoxelHead> nickbass95: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3952 [16:53] <VoxelHead> nickbass95: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3953 [16:53] <bradyrussell24> After I pasted, I hit submit?
#3954 [16:53] <oldtopmanserver> Yes
#3955 [16:53] <xales> Yes.
#3956 [16:53] <bradyrussell24> http://pastebin.com/ZzC9mbNz
#3957 [16:54] <bradyrussell24> There's the URL
#3958 [16:54] <Jonny> I have just bought a premium account and it says error not downloaded when i run the launcher
#3959 [16:54] <Jonny> how do i download the game?
#3960 [16:54] <oldtopmanserver> Jonny: Where did you get the client frroom?
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#3962 [16:55] <Jonny> client?
#3963 [16:55] <Jonny> do you mean the launcher?
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#3965 [16:55] <Zipmeister> Hey. I got some problems with my standalone launcher crashing all the time
#3966 [16:55] <xales> bradyrussell24: What is the other hosts file called?
#3967 [16:55] <Zipmeister> I get this error log: http://pastebin.com/TUu8uQnv
#3968 [16:55] <xales> Jonny: Try playing on minecraft.net
#3969 [16:55] <Jonny> online?
#3970 [16:55] <xales> Zipmeister: Update your NVIDIA graphics card driver
#3971 [16:55] <bradyrussell24> Just "hosts"
#3972 [16:55] <xales> Jonny: Yes, http://minecraft.net/game/
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#3974 [16:55] <Zipmeister> okay
#3975 [16:55] <Zipmeister> ty
#3976 [16:56] <xales> bradyrussell24: Are there two files called "hosts"?
#3977 [16:56] <wilma> i need help
#3978 [16:56] <xales> wilma: With?
#3979 [16:56] <Jonny> okay
#3980 [16:56] <bradyrussell24> Yes. But their icons are different
#3981 [16:56] <wilma> i bought the game i think, but how do i play it -.-
#3982 [16:56] <xales> bradyrussell24: Right click on the one you did not open yet, and select "Open with" -> "Notepad"
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#3984 [16:56] <wilma> i have the game downloaded
#3985 [16:56] <wilma> but cant logg in
#3986 [16:56] <xales> wilma: Why can't you?
#3987 [16:56] <Jonny> same as wilma
#3988 [16:57] <Jonny> thats what it is with miine
#3989 [16:57] <xales> Jonny: I know. Again, try playing it on minecraft.net
#3990 [16:57] <Jonny> ok
#3991 [16:57] <nickbass95> http://pastebin.com/VSKfCYBd
#3992 [16:57] <bradyrussell24> Here is the one I havn't opened yet - http://pastebin.com/GpqUWeKV
#3993 [16:57] <Jonny> can i save it to my computer if i do?
#3994 [16:57] <peeves> this is makin me furious. i cant play classic b/c of black screen. tried 3 browsers, my java is updated, deleted the %appdata% folder and nothing works. wtf
#3995 [16:57] <wilma> But when i buy shall i resevi an email then?
#3996 [16:58] <wilma> Resieve*
#3997 [16:58] <wilma> If i dont have resived an email havent i bought it then?
#3998 [16:59] <xales> wilma: It depends on the method you use to play it
#3999 [16:59] <wilma> Plzz answer
#4000 [16:59] <xales> err, to pay for it
#4001 [16:59] <xales> Jonny: Yes, of course
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#4003 [16:59] <peeves> can anyone help me?
#4004 [16:59] <xales> nickbass95: You'll have to play in your browser, if it works at all - your computer just barely meets the requirements for it to run
#4005 [16:59] <Jonny> i think it is working going to double check
#4006 [16:59] <xales> peeves: Reinstall java.
#4007 [16:59] <wilma> ....svensk?
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#4009 [17:00] <xales> wilma: It can take 24 hours and sometimes longer to process your payment
#4010 [17:00] <bradyrussell24> http://pastebin.com/GpqUWeKV ---- Xales, here is the second "hosts" folder
#4011 [17:00] <peeves> cant reinstall java site says i already have it
#4012 [17:00] <xales> peeves: You have to uninstall it first...
#4013 [17:00] <xales> bradyrussell24: do this -
#4014 [17:00] <xales> ??> bradyrussell24 win/reinst
#4015 [17:00] <VoxelHead> bradyrussell24: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4016 [17:00] <VoxelHead> bradyrussell24: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4017 [17:01] <peeves> ty so much will try
#4018 [17:01] <nickbass95> It worked okay before I updated java. It crashed every ten or fifteen minutes, but that didn't bother me. When it said run or save, I said save, and then used java to open it. You're sure I can't install it, the framerate in my browser is aweful.
#4019 [17:01] <Jonny> ok it works now thank you
#4020 [17:02] <xales> nickbass95: The framerate isn't awful because you are running it in your browser
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#4022 [17:02] <xales> It's because, as I said, your computer can just _barely_ play the game
#4023 [17:02] <xales> You can try turning down the graphics settings, but beyond that, nothing but a new computer will make it perform better
#4024 [17:02] <nickbass95> Okay. It worked okay before though.
#4025 [17:02] <nickbass95> Thanks!
#4026 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Wheeeeee Thanks.
#4027 [17:03] <bradyrussell24> Xales, that worked
#4028 [17:03] <bradyrussell24> Thank you very much
#4029 [17:04] <bradyrussell24> You made my day a WHOLE lot better :P
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#4031 [17:05] <mmogameable> thank you very much. you are the best:_)
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#4033 [17:05] <mmogameable> :-)*
#4034 [17:06] <nickbass95> Say, what kind of upgrades would I need to do to my computer? Graphics card? Processor? RAM?
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#4036 [17:06] <xales> nickbass95: Graphics card and RAM, but given the age, you'd be better off spending your money on a new computer
#4037 [17:06] <nickbass95> Okay, thanks for your help!
#4038 [17:06] <xales> It would probably cost slightly more up front, but you will save money in that you won't have to upgrade it again in a few years
#4039 [17:07] <mmogameable> what type of graphic card do you recommend?
#4040 [17:08] <xales> Anything modern. I prefer NVidia, but that is completely up to you
#4041 [17:08] <xales> As long as it's not Intel
#4042 [17:08] <Awesomeness> LMAO
#4043 [17:08] <Awesomeness> Xales
#4044 [17:08] <mmogameable> for minecraft
#4045 [17:08] <Awesomeness> we recorded like 45 minutes
#4046 [17:08] <Awesomeness> and then I realized
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#4048 [17:08] <Awesomeness> I didn't have fraps turned on
#4049 [17:08] <Awesomeness> LOL
#4050 [17:08] <xales> Nice work, hero
#4051 [17:08] <mmogameable> okey:-)
#4052 [17:09] <Awesomeness> lmao
#4053 [17:09] <mmogameable> what does LMAO stands for?
#4054 [17:09] <mmogameable> i am a noob
#4055 [17:09] <mmogameable> i know
#4056 [17:10] <Thramoun> Laughing My Ass Off i think
#4057 [17:10] <mmogameable> okey, btw thanks for the help to start the game:-)
#4058 [17:11] <mmogameable> bye now
#4059 [17:11] <Awesomeness> Hey Xales
#4060 [17:11] <Awesomeness> At least we did a reversal. :D
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#4062 [17:12] <Zipmeister> thanks Xales :p
#4063 [17:12] <Zipmeister> works now
#4064 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Pop.
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#4067 [17:16] <antant> i just bought minecraft and everytime i try to run it, it says the software crashes
#4068 [17:17] <VoxelHead> mmm acky
#4069 [17:18] <antant> ?
#4070 [17:18] <antant> is this for real or did i waste $22?
#4071 [17:18] <xales> Define "the software crashes"
#4072 [17:18] <xales> Is there an error report?
#4073 [17:19] <antant> one sec let me do it again and i'll tell you
#4074 [17:19] <antant> when i download and run the exe file
#4075 [17:19] <antant> it just goes black
#4076 [17:19] <antant> no message at all
#4077 [17:19] <xales> Try playing in your browser
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#4079 [17:20] <antant> yeah that's where i get the error
#4080 [17:20] <antant> hang on i
#4081 [17:20] <antant> i'm relaunching in the browser i'll give you the error message
#4082 [17:20] <Awesomeness> ...I need a hug. :(
#4083 [17:21] * xolotl hugs Awesomeness
#4083 [17:21] <Awesomeness> thanks random person!
#4084 [17:21] <oldtopmanserver> antant: If that happens in the browser version, try the desktop version.
#4085 [17:22] <antant> a1dce528
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#4087 [17:22] <ellisgeek> ???
#4088 [17:22] <oldtopmanserver> ??
#4089 [17:22] <antant> thats the error report it spits out
#4090 [17:22] <ellisgeek> pastebin it
#4091 [17:22] <antant> what is pastebin
#4092 [17:22] <oldtopmanserver> antant: What is the URL of the site?
#4093 [17:22] <antant> minecraft.net/game
#4094 [17:23] <oldtopmanserver> antant: What is your nickname
#4095 [17:23] <ellisgeek> ??> antant pastebin
#4096 [17:23] <VoxelHead> antant: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#4097 [17:23] <VoxelHead> antant: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#4098 [17:23] <oldtopmanserver> antant: And have you tried the downloaded version yet?
#4099 [17:23] <antant> oldtopmanserver: yes
#4100 [17:23] <antant> that just goes black screen
#4101 [17:23] <antant> and then nothing
#4102 [17:23] <xales> antant: please copy the error to pastebin
#4103 [17:23] <oldtopmanserver> antant: what is your nickname?
#4104 [17:23] <ellisgeek> ?? index
#4105 [17:23] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries.
#4106 [17:24] <antant> old top: bluemoon535
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#4108 [17:25] <ellisgeek> ??> antant java
#4109 [17:25] <antant> i can't even scroll down to read the whole error message
#4110 [17:25] <antant> it kind of freezes my screen
#4111 [17:25] <xales> ??> antant win/dxdiag
#4112 [17:25] <VoxelHead> antant: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4113 [17:25] <VoxelHead> antant: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4114 [17:25] <oldtopmanserver> !paid bluemoon535
#4115 [17:26] <antant> correct, i paid for it.
#4116 [17:26] <antant> is that a bad thing?
#4117 [17:26] <oldtopmanserver> no
#4118 [17:26] <antant> oh
#4119 [17:26] <xales> antant: Please follow VoxelHead's instructions
#4120 [17:26] <antant> i have to be honest
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#4122 [17:26] <antant> i will try
#4123 [17:27] <oldtopmanserver> We do get the ocassionall oddball who shows up and says "SUPPOTRZ ME NAOW" and is using a pirated copy
#4124 [17:27] <antant> oh
#4125 [17:27] <antant> ok, i get ya
#4126 [17:27] <antant> i'm not a tech person so thi sis all foreign to me
#4127 [17:27] <antant> i'll try the pastebin
#4128 [17:27] <antant> what's the win key?
#4129 [17:28] <antant> the one that looks like the windows logo?
#4130 [17:28] <oldtopmanserver> ues
#4131 [17:28] <antant> sorry guys, i'm that ignorate
#4132 [17:28] <antant> ignorant
#4133 [17:28] <antant> ok
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#4135 [17:28] <oldtopmanserver> XD
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#4137 [17:29] * ellisgeek WANTZ SUPPORTZ NAOW
#4137 [17:29] <ellisgeek> lol
#4138 [17:29] * Awesomeness slaps ellisgeek around a bit with a large trout
#4138 [17:29] * ellisgeek Mentaly gropes Awesomeness
#4138 [17:29] <ellisgeek> >.<
#4139 [17:30] <antant> ok well that worked
#4140 [17:30] <antant> :)
#4141 [17:30] <VoxelHead> =]
#4142 [17:30] <antant> now what
#4143 [17:30] <ellisgeek> link??
#4144 [17:30] <xales> antant: Did you copy the information to pastebin
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#4146 [17:30] <antant> crap no
#4147 [17:30] <antant> one sec
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#4149 [17:30] <ronaldomu07> my game crashed
#4150 [17:30] <ellisgeek> XD
#4151 [17:31] <xales> ronaldomu07: uh, okay?
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#4154 [17:31] <ronaldomu07> it shows an error message
#4155 [17:31] <Awesomeness> lmao
#4156 [17:31] <ellisgeek> ??> ronaldomu07 ask
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#4158 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ronaldomu07: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4159 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ronaldomu07: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4160 [17:31] <ronaldomu07> how can i fix it?
#4161 [17:31] <Vivek> why does everyone here love large trout ?!?!?
#4162 [17:31] <xales> ??> ronaldomu07 error
#4163 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ronaldomu07: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#4164 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ronaldomu07: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#4165 [17:31] <ellisgeek> they are fun!!!
#4166 [17:32] <zetaff> hello
#4167 [17:32] <antant> if this works you guys are geniuses
#4168 [17:32] <antant> http://pastebin.com/EKiv7aWf
#4169 [17:32] * oldtopmanserver pistol-whips ellisgeek because trout are stupid
#4169 [17:32] <Vivek> lol :D
#4170 [17:32] <zetaff> i have a bug on my 1.6.6 server, we have a block of map (may a 16x16 cube) that reapper after we destroy it (not immediatly).
#4171 [17:33] <ronaldomu07> it says begin error report a1dce528
#4172 [17:33] <xales> zetaff: That would be the spawn area, and it is normal behavior
#4173 [17:33] <xales> if you op yourself, then you will be able to build there
#4174 [17:33] <xales> ronaldomu07: Again, you have to copy the _entire_ error to pastebin.com for us
#4175 [17:33] <zetaff> it's not the spawn arena
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#4177 [17:33] <xales> antant: Go here http://www8.hp.com/us/en/support-drivers.html and click "Detect your product"
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#4180 [17:34] <xales> then find the Intel Video driver download, and install that
#4181 [17:34] <antant> xales, ok
#4182 [17:34] <ronaldomu07> it freezes and wont scroll down
#4183 [17:34] <xales> it >should< work then, but if not, come back in about an hour and a half. I have to go, unfortunately
#4184 [17:34] <antant> ok thanks
#4185 [17:34] <ellisgeek> antant try re installing java (http://java.com)
#4186 [17:34] <xales> ronaldomu07: Update your video card driver. If you need help with that, Google it or see if someone here can help
#4187 [17:34] <xales> ellisgeek: Not an issue with java
#4188 [17:34] <ellisgeek> after the driver update
#4189 [17:34] <ronaldomu07> kk thx
#4190 [17:34] <xales> most likely
#4191 [17:35] <xales> Anyway
#4192 [17:35] * xales will be back later
#4192 [17:35] <ellisgeek> cya
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#4194 [17:35] <jangofet> hey how do i do mods
#4195 [17:35] <ellisgeek> Why is vox acting kinda human
#4196 [17:36] <ellisgeek> jangofet that is outside the scope of this chanel
#4197 [17:36] <ellisgeek> this is for vanilla discussion only!
#4198 [17:36] <ellisgeek> sorry
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#4200 [17:36] <VoxelHead> We have no time for these games~%percent#^#!#%percent#~.
#4201 [17:36] <oldtopmanserver> ??> jangofet mods
#4202 [17:37] <VoxelHead> jangofet: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#4203 [17:37] <VoxelHead> jangofet: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#4204 [17:37] <ellisgeek> P.S. go to the forums there are like 50 threads that tell you how!
#4205 [17:38] <jangofet> why, this channel is about minecraft help. what ever it is that involves minecraft
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#4207 [17:39] <jangofet> whats vanilla
#4208 [17:39] <jangofet> oh sorry
#4209 [17:39] <jangofet> ok'
#4210 [17:39] <VoxelHead> whats vanilla... whanilla
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#4212 [17:39] <oldtopmanserver> jangofet: Mods aren't supported. If you ask again, I will find someone ot kick you.
#4213 [17:39] <oldtopmanserver> to*
#4214 [17:40] <ellisgeek> now if there is someone who actually needs help we are waiting
#4215 [17:41] <ellisgeek> also jangofet it helps to read the topic when you join a channel
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#4218 [17:42] <Michaelschultz11> I'm getting an error when I try and run minecraft. Can anyone help?
#4219 [17:43] <camille> hi, i don't know if you could help me with this or not- but i tried to download a mod, and it terribly failed NOW i can't get on minecraft at all
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#4221 [17:44] <VoxelHead> mmm camille
#4222 [17:44] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Michaelschultz11 ask
#4223 [17:44] <VoxelHead> Michaelschultz11: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4224 [17:44] <VoxelHead> Michaelschultz11: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4225 [17:44] <Michaelschultz11> Here is the error
#4226 [17:44] <Michaelschultz11> "Out of memory"
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#4228 [17:44] <Michaelschultz11> Minecraft has run out of memory
#4229 [17:44] <oldtopmanserver> How much RAM oes your computer have?
#4230 [17:44] <Michaelschultz11> 5 GB
#4231 [17:44] <Michaelschultz11> im on windows 7 64 bit
#4232 [17:45] <Michaelschultz11> "This could be caused by a bug in the game or by java virtual machine not being allocated enough memory"
#4233 [17:45] <Michaelschultz11> I get the error when i try loading the game.
#4234 [17:45] <Michaelschultz11> like, loading the world.
#4235 [17:46] <Double> can someone help with the Open GL error
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#4237 [17:50] <Double> can someone help with the Open GL error
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#4240 [17:55] <mib_ykviqw> why am i not able to play minecraft in the browser and why cant i ever connect to multiplayer
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#4243 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Byebye.
#4244 [18:13] * mib_0ikap0 [mib_0ikap0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4245 [18:13] <mib_0ikap0> hello
#4246 [18:13] <mib_0ikap0> anyone help me?
#4247 [18:16] <oldtopmanserver> ??> mib_0ikap0 ask
#4248 [18:16] <VoxelHead> mib_0ikap0: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4249 [18:16] <VoxelHead> mib_0ikap0: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#4251 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Bye Mrwindypops.
#4252 [18:19] <mib_0ikap0> i just got a new moden and it deleted all my programs and i reinstalled minecraft and i try to update and it says i dont have a .minecraft folder and if i dont update it says this --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT c917b17a -------- Generated 6/1/11 6:02
#4253 [18:20] <mib_0ikap0> i went to minecraft.net and installed it again and it still dont add .minecraft
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#4256 [18:23] <mib_0ikap0> i asked my question and i need an answer.
#4257 [18:23] <gPad2002> Windows?
#4258 [18:23] <mib_0ikap0> yes
#4259 [18:23] <mib_0ikap0> windows HP
#4260 [18:23] <gPad2002> ?? win/reinst
#4261 [18:23] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4262 [18:24] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4263 [18:24] <mib_0ikap0> i dont have a .minecraft file
#4264 [18:24] <gPad2002> Then make one
#4265 [18:24] <mib_0ikap0> even though i reinstalled it
#4266 [18:24] <mib_0ikap0> how?
#4267 [18:24] <gPad2002> It's a folder
#4268 [18:24] <mib_0ikap0> i know
#4269 [18:24] <gPad2002> Do what it says above, but make it instead of opening it
#4270 [18:25] <mib_0ikap0> dude i know what your saying the same way you open to put mods in but there is no .minecraft or any files all there is is microsoft
#4271 [18:26] <mib_0ikap0> i have no files at all that thing screwed up my whole computer
#4272 [18:26] <gPad2002> In %AppData%
#4273 [18:26] <gPad2002> make a folder named .minecraft
#4274 [18:27] <gPad2002> Then try again
#4275 [18:27] <mib_0ikap0> but what about all the stuff in it? the saves folder the minecraft.jars the texture folders and all that junk
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#4277 [18:28] <gPad2002> If the folder is empty, then try running MC again
#4278 [18:29] <gPad2002> If not, remove everything but the saves folder
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#4280 [18:29] <mib_0ikap0> there is no .minecraft folder at all
#4281 [18:29] <gPad2002> Then make it and try again
#4282 [18:29] <mib_0ikap0> im trying to rename the damn thing but it wont let me
#4283 [18:30] <gPad2002> What error?
#4284 [18:30] <mib_0ikap0> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT c917b17a -------- Generated 6/1/11 6:02
#4285 [18:30] <gPad2002> Paste bin the full thing
#4286 [18:30] <CaleRicketts> Hello all... Any mac users?
#4287 [18:30] <mib_0ikap0> thats the minecraft one
#4288 [18:30] <gPad2002> ?? pastebin
#4289 [18:30] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#4290 [18:30] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#4291 [18:30] <gPad2002> There's surely more than that
#4292 [18:31] <CaleRicketts> No mac people?
#4293 [18:31] <gPad2002> CaleRicketts: What's the problem?
#4294 [18:32] * mib_s21eyr [mib_s21eyr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4295 [18:32] <CaleRicketts> It wont let me sign into terminal... Therefore I cant host my server....
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#4297 [18:32] <mib_s21eyr> what are the system requirments?
#4298 [18:32] <mib_0ikap0> it wont let me put a . in front of minecraft
#4299 [18:33] <gPad2002> mib_s21eyr: Most machines can run MC, but it's recommended that you have at least a dual core CPU with 2GB of ram and a fairly decent graphics card
#4300 [18:33] <mib_s21eyr> are any minecraft experts here at all?
#4301 [18:33] <gPad2002> mib_0ikap0: Its probably already in there
#4302 [18:33] <gPad2002> Try ryping it into the address bar
#4303 [18:34] <gPad2002> Typing *
#4304 [18:34] <mib_0ikap0> it is not in there
#4305 [18:34] <mib_0ikap0> omg did u not hear me i have no files at all this damn computers a piece of albino shit
#4306 [18:34] <mib_s21eyr> i only have 256 MB of ram
#4307 [18:34] <gPad2002> It could be hidden, mib_0ikap0
#4308 [18:35] <mib_0ikap0> itd have to be invisible
#4309 [18:35] <gPad2002> mib_s21eyr: That is a problem. It needs about 1.5GB of ram
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#4311 [18:35] <gPad2002> mib_0ikap0: That's possible,
#4312 [18:35] <mib_0ikap0> yea im sure
#4313 [18:35] <mib_s21eyr> crud
#4314 [18:35] <gPad2002> Actually, it is :P
#4315 [18:35] <mib_s21eyr> bye
#4316 [18:35] <mib_0ikap0> o.O
#4317 [18:35] <REB> Hi ive updated to 1.6, and get a black screen before i get to menu, any ideas??
#4318 [18:35] <gPad2002> mib_0ikap0: What version of windows?
#4319 [18:35] <REB> 7
#4320 [18:35] <VoxelHead> wheeeee 7!
#4321 [18:35] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#4322 [18:36] <VoxelHead> bah
#4323 [18:36] <REB> lol
#4324 [18:36] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'm on 7 too, trolololol
#4325 [18:36] <gPad2002> Damned bot
#4326 [18:36] <gPad2002> REB: I suggest reinstalling MC
#4327 [18:36] <gPad2002> ?? Win/reinst
#4328 [18:36] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4329 [18:36] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4330 [18:36] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :format all you HDD
#4331 [18:36] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :and reinstall everything
#4332 [18:37] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I should work
#4333 [18:37] <gPad2002> Hatrix: Shush :P
#4334 [18:37] <REB> lol troll
#4335 [18:37] <REB> ok guys will try
#4336 [18:37] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :no troll
#4337 [18:37] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It should work
#4338 [18:37] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'm sure it does.
#4339 [18:37] <gPad2002> It should, but this is easier :P
#4340 [18:37] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :easier/faster
#4341 [18:37] <gPad2002> Hatrix: Whats that command on nix
#4342 [18:38] <gPad2002> To remove every file?
#4343 [18:38] <gPad2002> I can't remember it
#4344 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :rm -rf
#4345 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Oh no
#4346 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Just type sl
#4347 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It's fun :p
#4348 [18:38] <gPad2002> Isn't there like a /?
#4349 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :rm -Rf /
#4350 [18:38] * AuBot kicked Hatrix from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
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#4352 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :hé
#4353 [18:38] <gPad2002> :P
#4354 [18:38] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:a467:fd95:a8f7:8c8b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :gg
#4355 [18:38] * gPad2002 strokes AuBot
#4355 [18:38] <gPad2002> Lol
#4356 [18:39] * VoxelHead kicked Hatrix from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: 3d Auto-rejoin after a kick. Come back in three days.)
#4357 [18:39] <gPad2002> LOL
#4358 [18:39] <Kealper> LOL
#4359 [18:39] <gPad2002> wahaha
#4360 [18:39] <gPad2002> I did not expect that :P
#4361 [18:39] * VoxelHead twirls its magic @
#4361 [18:39] <Kealper> i knew it lol
#4362 [18:39] <xarcus> I try to update but every time i try it says failed to launch
#4363 [18:40] <Kealper> btw...bakc
#4364 [18:40] <Kealper> back*
#4365 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> wb, Kealper
#4366 [18:40] <gPad2002> Can we unban him? Lol
#4367 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> In three days.
#4368 [18:40] <gPad2002> Seriously? You can't like, fix your bot? :P
#4369 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> It wasn't automatic
#4370 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> trolling "format your hard drive" and "rm -fr /" after being told to stop?
#4371 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Not welcome until ey thinkgs about eir behaviour
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#4373 [18:41] <gPad2002> Hm? I told him to rm -fr /
#4374 [18:41] <gPad2002> Read up
#4375 [18:41] <REB> Epic thanks guys
#4376 [18:42] <REB> all working, happy 1.6 server now :P
#4377 [18:43] <gPad2002> REB: No problem :P
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#4379 [18:44] <REB> ahh my texture pack made it explode again, guess that narrows my problem down
#4380 [18:44] <gPad2002> :P
#4381 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> yean, major updates that add new things means you need to not use texture packs taht are not updated.
#4382 [18:45] <REB> yep jus gonna see if its been updated
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#4384 [18:46] <mib_xaixie> the minecraft classic doesnt work and i have the newest java..
#4385 [18:46] <mib_xaixie> any1 know why?
#4386 [18:46] <Kealper> has it worked before?
#4387 [18:47] <mib_xaixie> yep
#4388 [18:47] <REB> Thanks again guys bb
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#4391 [18:48] <CaleRicketts> Can anyone help me
#4392 [18:49] <Kealper> ?? ask
#4393 [18:49] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4394 [18:49] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4395 [18:49] <CaleRicketts> I am having mac trouble
#4396 [18:49] * mib_crfc3a [mib_crfc3a@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4397 [18:49] <CaleRicketts> Terminal will not let me log in and therefore I cannot start my server
#4398 [18:49] <Kealper> can't help with that :/
#4399 [18:50] <kradd15> Hey, my computer used to work minecraft, but one day it stopped, and I would get an error saying something about a client missing or whatever
#4400 [18:50] <kradd15> It wouldnt work in or out of the browser
#4401 [18:50] <mib_xaixie> so about the minecraft classic? i wanna play multiplayer but it tells me applet plugin error
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#4403 [18:52] <kradd15> Any help you can offer?
#4404 [18:52] <gPad2002> kradd15: Windows?
#4405 [18:52] <kradd15> Yes, XP 64 bit
#4406 [18:53] <kradd15> no, vista
#4407 [18:53] <gPad2002> Try this
#4408 [18:53] <gPad2002> ?? win/reinst
#4409 [18:53] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4410 [18:53] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4411 [18:54] <kradd15> okay, I'm working on it
#4412 [18:54] <mib_xaixie> anyone know how to get minecraft classic to work again on win 7?
#4413 [18:55] <mib_xaixie> :(
#4414 [18:55] <kradd15> it says Error: no 'client' JVM at 'C:\Program Files
#4415 [18:56] <kradd15> 9x86)\Java\jre6\bin\client\jvm.dll'
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#4417 [18:57] <CaleRicketts> Well bye guys
#4418 [18:57] <damonj17> hello
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#4420 [18:59] <damonj17> hi guys,does anyone have any problems with display going black and or computer hangs and you have to restart?
#4421 [18:59] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#4422 [18:59] <damonj17> while playing minecraft
#4423 [18:59] <damonj17> ?
#4424 [18:59] <ashtray123> try reinstalling java
#4425 [19:00] * mib_93z5sq [mib_93z5sq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4426 [19:00] <ashtray123> rupdating it
#4427 [19:00] <ashtray123> or updating it
#4428 [19:00] <dust> I am having a problem when I try to startup up minecraft.exe. I login but it goes to a black screen and the processor pegs at 100%.
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#4430 [19:01] <ashtray123> does your computer have the right specification to run minecraft dust
#4431 [19:01] <lazy> how do i get minecraft classic for multiplayer to work? i have newest java and windows 7
#4432 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> lazy: you know how it says "old and unsupported" next to Classic on the Minecraft site...?
#4433 [19:02] * mib_pz8uj4 [mib_pz8uj4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4434 [19:02] <Awesomeness> lol
#4435 [19:02] <Awesomeness> Dope, I'll help them in a minute
#4436 [19:02] <Awesomeness> just watching some anime
#4437 [19:02] <damonj17> thanks ashtray,gonna try now
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#4440 [19:03] <kradd15> forget it
#4441 [19:03] <ashtray123> its ok
#4442 [19:04] <lazy> dope so?
#4443 [19:04] <VoxelHead> r mmm AlphaHawk.
#4444 [19:04] <dust> Where do I find the list of minimum system requirements for minecraft.exe?
#4445 [19:04] <neraldo> since the update i havent been able to play minecraft it tried to load i can log on but after that just back screen whats wrong with it
#4446 [19:05] <neraldo> black*
#4447 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> neraldo win/reinst
#4448 [19:05] <VoxelHead> neraldo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4449 [19:05] <VoxelHead> neraldo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4450 [19:05] <neraldo> thanks
#4451 [19:06] <lazy> how do i play multiplayer on beta then?
#4452 [19:06] <Awesomeness> lazy; what's your minecraft username?
#4453 [19:06] <ashtray123> it has an option multiplayer and th just type in a server
#4454 [19:06] <lazy> lazyguy64
#4455 [19:06] <Awesomeness> !paid lazyguy64
#4456 [19:06] <Awesomeness> oksu uhh
#4457 [19:07] <Awesomeness> *okay uhh
#4458 [19:07] <lazy> where do ifind servers?
#4459 [19:07] <Awesomeness> reddit.com/r/mcservers
#4460 [19:07] <Awesomeness> or
#4461 [19:07] <Awesomeness> You go to minecraftforums.net
#4462 [19:07] <Awesomeness> Click on forums, and click beta survival servers.
#4463 [19:07] <Awesomeness> :)
#4464 [19:07] <VoxelHead> =D
#4465 [19:07] <lazy> ok i'll try
#4466 [19:09] * mib_l8a3a3 [mib_l8a3a3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4467 [19:10] * austinpowers [austinpowers@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4468 [19:10] * VoxelHead kicked austinpowers from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: Ban evasion (austinpowers))
#4469 [19:11] <mib_l8a3a3> can someone help me with a launcher problem?
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#4471 [19:11] <Awesomeness> Yes?
#4472 [19:11] * medgno [medgno@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4473 [19:11] <lazy> where do i find thier ip..im on thier site..
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#4475 [19:12] <oldtopmanserver> Why is austinpowers banned?
#4476 [19:12] <lazy> nvm thanks
#4477 [19:13] <ashtray123> mi
#4478 [19:13] <ashtray123> mib_l8a3a3 whats your problem
#4479 [19:13] <oldtopmanserver> DopeGhoti: Why was AustinPowere banned
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#4481 [19:14] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
#4482 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> not sure where the original ban came from, but he evaded it, so it became an evasion permaben
#4483 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> er, permaban
#4484 [19:14] <oldtopmanserver> ah
#4485 [19:15] <oldtopmanserver> Should I ban him over in #smp ?
#4486 [19:15] <oldtopmanserver> What do you think?
#4487 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> I don't have anything to do with #SMP
#4488 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> if he behaves there, it's your call
#4489 [19:15] <oldtopmanserver> okay
#4490 [19:15] <Awesomeness> ??> mib_l8a3a3 win/reinst
#4491 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mib_l8a3a3: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4492 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mib_l8a3a3: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4493 [19:16] <Awesomeness> Do those steps, please
#4494 [19:16] * oldtopmanserver was wondering is it was porn or such
#4494 [19:17] * tr0n [tr0n@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4495 [19:17] <Kealper> no, he was being a douche
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#4497 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> that's mighty precise.
#4498 [19:17] <tr0n> hello thar
#4499 [19:17] <Awesomeness> I'll talk here
#4500 [19:17] <Awesomeness> Because here I can use bot commands
#4501 [19:18] <Awesomeness> Okay, I need you to do a dxdiag for me, please
#4502 [19:18] <Awesomeness> ??> mib_l8a3a3 win/dxdiag
#4503 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_l8a3a3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4504 [19:18] <Allizu> hi
#4505 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_l8a3a3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4506 [19:18] <Kealper> he didn't like that i kicked him from here for foul language or something
#4507 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> morning, Allizu
#4508 [19:18] <Allizu> i need some help
#4509 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#4510 [19:18] <Kealper> so he changed his nick to kea1per and started talking crap in #minecraft
#4511 [19:18] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4512 [19:18] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4513 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: what a charmer
#4514 [19:18] <Allizu> i tried to purchase the game but
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#4516 [19:19] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: quite...i TL;DR'd that a lot, it was probably a lot funnier to watch at the time
#4517 [19:19] <Allizu> after transition
#4518 [19:19] <Allizu> said it was not possible cuz of the bank something bla bla bla
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#4520 [19:19] <Allizu> and after that
#4521 [19:19] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =O
#4522 [19:19] <blaphmat> hello
#4523 [19:19] <Kealper> hi
#4524 [19:20] <blaphmat> i need help with minecraft
#4525 [19:20] <Kealper> ?? specific
#4526 [19:20] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#4527 [19:20] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#4528 [19:20] * DopeGhoti <3 ZNC channel detaching, but wishes there was a 'reattach on criteria' module, and not just a 'reattach if _anything whatsoever_ happens' module
#4528 [19:20] <blaphmat> whn i click to play the game it says
#4529 [19:20] <Allizu> showed a page that said i purchased the game sussefuly
#4530 [19:20] <blaphmat> just wait a second i have to find it
#4531 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Allizu: do you see the monies coming out of your bank account?
#4532 [19:21] <blaphmat> it says filed to launch
#4533 [19:21] <blaphmat> failed to launch
#4534 [19:21] <blaphmat> fatal erro occurued (20)"fatal
#4535 [19:22] * Kealper has no idea what that could mean
#4535 [19:22] <Allizu> well im using temporary cards
#4536 [19:22] <blaphmat> well what should i do?????
#4537 [19:22] <Kealper> Allizu: prepaid cards won't work for international transactions
#4538 [19:22] <blaphmat> i bought the game to play it now look at a brown screen
#4539 [19:22] <Kealper> blaphmat: the usual, try reinstalling Java first
#4540 [19:22] <Allizu> i pay wow timecard with it...
#4541 [19:23] <Kealper> Allizu: WoW is based in the US, therefor not an international transaction
#4542 [19:23] <Kealper> Mojang is in Sweden
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#4544 [19:23] <mohawk> HELOOOOO
#4545 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Allizu prepaid
#4546 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Allizu: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#4547 [19:23] <Allizu> the payment is the same mastercard
#4548 [19:23] <mohawk> what should i do about he failed to launch page
#4549 [19:24] <Kealper> 19:22:38 <@Kealper> blaphmat: the usual, try reinstalling Java first
#4550 [19:24] <mohawk> the failed to launch page
#4551 [19:24] <mohawk> how do you restall java
#4552 [19:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: we got an entry on that? lol
#4553 [19:24] <mohawk> where?
#4554 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> mohawk getjava
#4555 [19:24] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#4556 [19:24] <Kealper> ahh
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#4558 [19:25] <mohawk> thank you
#4559 [19:25] <DalaamPrince> hello has anyone ehre ever successfully hosted a non-LAN minecraft server?
#4560 [19:25] * sockmister [sockmister@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4561 [19:25] <oldtopmanserver> DalaamPrince: No
#4562 [19:25] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: millions of people
#4563 [19:25] <oldtopmanserver> Never in my life have I seen it done
#4564 [19:25] <Kealper> whoops
#4565 [19:25] <VoxelHead> *sniff* I miss you cupcake
#4566 [19:25] <Kealper> wrong person lol
#4567 [19:25] <oldtopmanserver> DalaamPrince: OFC YES
#4568 [19:25] <VoxelHead> Bye sockmister.
#4569 [19:25] <medgno> all the entries are listed at http://faq.xales.info/
#4570 [19:26] <oldtopmanserver> I even have one!
#4571 [19:26] <Kealper> medgno: i'm eating so i'm not at peak typing effiiency
#4572 [19:26] <Kealper> efficiency*
#4573 [19:26] <mohawk> fuck you all
#4574 [19:26] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#4575 [19:26] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#4575 [19:26] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#4576 [19:26] * Kealper kicked mohawk from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I love you to)
#4577 [19:26] <riking> anynoe have any idea why this happened? http://paste.ubuntu.com/616213/
#4578 [19:26] <Kealper> too* dangit
#4579 [19:27] <gPad2002> Lol
#4580 [19:27] <Kealper> stupid Arby's
#4581 [19:27] <Allizu> Kealper i use mbnet service there nothing worng with it
#4582 [19:27] * VoxelHead tweaks gPad2002's nose
#4582 [19:27] <Kealper> Allizu: mbnet? huh?
#4583 [19:27] * gPad2002 doesn't have a nose
#4583 [19:27] <riking> mibbit
#4584 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: huh, I had Arby's today too
#4585 [19:27] * gPad2002 is a..
#4585 [19:27] <Allizu> https://www.mbnet.pt/MBNet.html
#4586 [19:28] * cucumber !
#4586 [19:28] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: it's good mood food D:
#4587 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> vox, give cucumber a good watering
#4588 [19:28] <DalaamPrince> let me rephrase, has anyone in this channel ever gotten a minecraft non-lan server to run properly?
#4589 [19:28] * VoxelHead gives cucumber a good watering
#4589 [19:28] <cucumber> Lol.
#4590 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> DalaamPrince: Yes, many.
#4591 [19:28] <cucumber> DalaamPrince: Yes. Ma- arch
#4592 [19:28] <cucumber> Argh*
#4593 [19:29] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#4594 [19:29] <Kealper> so like.... that MBNet....
#4595 [19:29] <Kealper> i still have no idea what is it is
#4596 [19:29] <Kealper> lag ftw
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#4598 [19:29] <sprog> Can i get some help
#4599 [19:29] <oldtopmanserver> DalaamPrince: Most people who come here are either: 1: Too stupid to set one up or 2: Impossible for them to set one up
#4600 [19:29] <sprog> if anyone is here
#4601 [19:29] <oldtopmanserver> ??> sprog ask
#4602 [19:29] <VoxelHead> sprog: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4603 [19:29] <cucumber> sprog: I don't know, I'm just a cucumber
#4604 [19:29] <VoxelHead> sprog: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4605 [19:30] <Allizu> its a service that generates temp card of your current money account
#4606 [19:30] <Kealper> vox, make cucumber into a person
#4607 [19:30] * VoxelHead waves his magic wand
#4607 [19:30] <VoxelHead> *PING* ... cucumber is a person
#4608 [19:30] <VoxelHead> I AM THE WIZARD!@@^%percent#@^$%percent.
#4609 [19:30] <gPad2002> :P
#4610 [19:30] <Kealper> lol
#4611 [19:30] <Allizu> and i bought much things with that server
#4612 [19:30] <Allizu> why not minecraft?
#4613 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> Allizu prepaid
#4614 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Allizu: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#4615 [19:30] <Allizu> service*
#4616 [19:30] <Kealper> because Minecraft isn't other things
#4617 [19:30] <sprog> I've activated my whitelist under my server. My question is, under "white-list.txt" what do i insert there? I.Ps or Names?
#4618 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> sprog: player/account names
#4619 [19:30] <Kealper> sprog: names, one per line
#4620 [19:31] <Allizu> lol
#4621 [19:31] <sprog> The problem is, Im using Offline mode.
#4622 [19:31] <ashtray123> you insert usernames in to yourwhitelise
#4623 [19:32] <Kealper> sprog: so enable online mode? :/
#4624 [19:32] <Allizu> look the payment method of wow is the same as minecraft how u can say that
#4625 [19:32] <sprog> my friends arnt able to join my game if its online mode.
#4626 [19:32] <Kealper> Allizu: if it was the same, it would have worked.. would it not?
#4627 [19:32] <Allizu> something is wrong
#4628 [19:32] <gPad2002> Allizu: Arguing here is all well and good, but you should really be arguing with the payment processor.
#4629 [19:33] <Kealper> Allizu: sorry if we're being blunt, but Minecraft is super picky on payment methods
#4630 [19:33] <Allizu> whos payment processor
#4631 [19:33] <Kealper> yours
#4632 [19:33] <Allizu> i want to buy minecraft
#4633 [19:33] <Kealper> *COUGH*paypal*COUGH*
#4634 [19:33] <Kealper> ok seriously, back to eating i go
#4635 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> sprog: any why is that?
#4636 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> "Because my friends are all stealing the game, and I am enabling them."
#4637 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> No thefthelp for you.
#4638 [19:36] <Kealper> ^
#4639 [19:38] <sprog> there stealing it? what do u mean
#4640 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> I love the people who don't like the answers they get, and keep asking in hopes that the answer will magically change.
#4641 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> sprog: why else would you "need" your server to not be in online mode?
#4642 [19:38] <gPad2002> ~dict prude
#4643 [19:39] <VoxelHead> ~dict prude... ~dude
#4644 [19:39] <DalaamPrince> ok so i am able to get the minecraft server application running if i set my ip to my local network IP
#4645 [19:39] <DalaamPrince> however if i set it to use my actual ip so that someone on another network can connect i get a port error
#4646 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#4647 [19:39] <DalaamPrince> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#4648 [19:39] <DalaamPrince> [19:19] <DalaamPrince> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#4649 [19:39] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#4650 [19:39] <sprog> Well they can join in offline mode
#4651 [19:39] <sprog> so obviously i dont want to make it online if they cant join
#4652 [19:40] <medgno> sprog: have they purchased minecraft?
#4653 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> sprog: thank you, Captain Missing The Point Entirely
#4654 [19:40] <sprog> i have no clue? There online friends, not personal
#4655 [19:40] <Kealper> sprog: if they can't join when the server is in online mode, it means they stole the game
#4656 [19:41] <sprog> well
#4657 [19:41] <Kealper> sprog: since you would be facilitating the theft of the game, you won't find any help from here
#4658 [19:41] <medgno> sprog: check with http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=USERNAME , replacing USERNAME with the name they used
#4659 [19:41] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#4660 [19:41] <Kealper> or that
#4661 [19:41] <sprog> i paid for minecraft and my friend cant login to my server on my account
#4662 [19:41] <sprog> !ub3rflar3
#4663 [19:42] <sprog> !paid Ub3rflar3
#4664 [19:42] <DalaamPrince> DopeGhoti and VoxelHead: Thank you not listing the IP worked
#4665 [19:42] <sprog> !paid PoisonDead
#4666 [19:42] <Kealper> sprog: we don't doubt that you paid....
#4667 [19:42] <VoxelHead> !paid PoisonDead... !poisonDead
#4668 [19:42] <DalaamPrince> !paid ericjweaver
#4669 [19:42] <medgno> shut up vox
#4670 [19:42] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#4670 [19:42] <sprog> Well for my RL friend i can understand
#4671 [19:42] <sprog> Hes using the computer next to me and were both using my account
#4672 [19:43] * VoxelHead starts talking to Kealper about the price of tea in China.
#4672 [19:43] <Kealper> D:
#4673 [19:43] <Kealper> stupid tea is expensive now days!
#4674 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> sprog: an account can only be logged into one location at one time
#4675 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> sprog: have your friend buy his own account.
#4676 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> suddenly, the problem will go away
#4677 [19:44] <sprog> yeah i know
#4678 [19:44] <sprog> we cant play together
#4679 [19:44] <sprog> so i play with online friends
#4680 [19:47] <Kealper> since you don't understand, it seems
#4681 [19:47] <Kealper> i hereby invoke the right of refusal to help for whatever reason
#4682 [19:48] <Kealper> reason being: potatos
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#4684 [19:48] <mib_0a40rj> hey i cant log in to any multiplayer servers
#4685 [19:48] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: what error does it give?
#4686 [19:49] <mib_0a40rj> it says connection refused to any server i try to get in to
#4687 [19:49] <sprog> They need to white-list you
#4688 [19:49] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: connect to the server mc.kealper.com
#4689 [19:49] <mib_0a40rj> no, my friend just got on and he's never been on before
#4690 [19:49] <mib_0a40rj> he hasnt been white listed
#4691 [19:49] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: it should tell you "Disconnected from server! Not on white-list!" or something like that
#4692 [19:49] <mib_0a40rj> it didn't
#4693 [19:49] <mib_0a40rj> which is why im confused
#4694 [19:50] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: you tried the server mc.kealper.com just now?
#4695 [19:50] <mib_0a40rj> how can i get the update
#4696 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> run game, game updates.
#4697 [19:50] <sprog> Keapler, how can i put a custom IP address instead of my own?
#4698 [19:50] <Kealper> sprog: it's a domain name, and usually you have to pay for it
#4699 [19:50] <mib_0a40rj> i tried, it says i've logged in from another computer but i havent
#4700 [19:50] <mib_0a40rj> this is stupid
#4701 [19:50] <Kealper> sprog: unless you get a free one like asdf.dyndns.org or something
#4702 [19:51] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: ...did you give your account info out to anyone else?
#4703 [19:51] <mib_0a40rj> i might have...
#4704 [19:51] <sprog> i meant for like Server.Propeties. where is say IP-address. Can i put a custom one or no?
#4705 [19:51] <Kealper> sprog: don't touch that unless you are a huge server hosting provider and actually know what it is
#4706 [19:52] <mib_0a40rj> hello?
#4707 [19:53] <Kealper> well...if it says you can't log in due to someone else being logged in on it right now....and you are kinda thinking you shared the account with someone......
#4708 [19:54] <mib_0a40rj> yes, but now the login from another location is gone and i cant update
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#4710 [19:54] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: it should just give you an option to update
#4711 [19:54] <mib_0a40rj> if not?
#4712 [19:54] <Kealper> assuming you actually.....you know....bought the game
#4713 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> i did
#4714 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> which is why im pissed
#4715 [19:55] <Kealper> hmm
#4716 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> anything i can do
#4717 [19:55] <Kealper> what version does it say at the top?
#4718 [19:55] <Kealper> 1.6.6?
#4719 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> top of what
#4720 [19:55] <Kealper> top left of the client when you log in
#4721 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> oh
#4722 [19:55] <mib_0a40rj> beta 1.6.6
#4723 [19:56] <Kealper> it is fully updated
#4724 [19:56] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: try getting on the server mc.kealper.com in the game
#4725 [19:56] <Kealper> (just put that into the IP spot)
#4726 [19:56] <mib_0a40rj> okay
#4727 [19:56] <mib_0a40rj> thanks
#4728 [19:57] <mib_0a40rj> it says bad login
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#4731 [19:58] <mib_0a40rj> any way i can get help
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#4733 [19:59] <mib_0a40rj> wow
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#4735 [19:59] <Kealper> it should disconnect you for not being on the whitelist
#4736 [19:59] <Kealper> if it doesn't connect and disconnect you, then something is wrong
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#4743 [20:05] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: sorry about that
#4744 [20:05] <Kealper> something came up and i had to go away for a few min
#4745 [20:06] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: what is your ingame username?
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#4748 [20:14] <VietCong314> Hello?
#4749 [20:14] <Kealper> hi
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#4751 [20:14] <VietCong314> Can someone help me? I just got a new free account and installed java and all that jazz but Minecraft won't start.
#4752 [20:14] <mib_0a40rj> its xXLoganJewellXx
#4753 [20:15] <udon4brkfst> what is accelerated openGL mode?
#4754 [20:15] <Kealper> ??>> VietCong314 win/dxdiag
#4755 [20:16] <Kealper> udon4brkfst: if you are getting an error with it, update your graphics card drivers
#4756 [20:16] <udon4brkfst> i did, but it doesn't work
#4757 [20:16] <udon4brkfst> its a dell E310
#4758 [20:16] <Kealper> ??>> udon4brkfst win/dxdiag
#4759 [20:16] <VietCong314> That's the thing, I don't even have an error! Its just not there!
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#4762 [20:17] <Kealper> mib_0a40rj: as for you....i'm really not sure...do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
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#4764 [20:18] <VietCong314> Can someone help me?
#4765 [20:18] <Kealper> VietCong314: do what VoxelHead told you to do
#4766 [20:18] <Kealper> i can't help further until i get that info
#4767 [20:18] <VietCong314> ok I could not tell who was talking to whom. hold on.
#4768 [20:19] <kidnutrageous> I've got a problem starting up a server on my mac, can anyone help?
#4769 [20:19] <udon4brkfst> if AGP texture acceleration isn't colored in, does that mean i can't use minecraft?
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#4771 [20:19] <VietCong314> I have a mac and don't know what the mac equivilant of a win key is.
#4772 [20:20] <Kealper> oh
#4773 [20:20] <Kealper> then honestly i can't be of much help
#4774 [20:20] <Kealper> i don't own/have never used a mac
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#4776 [20:20] <kidnutrageous> hey VietCong, what's your issue? I wanna know if I'm having the same problem
#4777 [20:21] <VietCong314> Can someone help me? I have a mac and I have just registered a minecraft account. The Alpha one. Minecraft is not appearing and neither is an error message. I have java, I just updated it 30minutes ago. What is going on?
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#4779 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> VietCong314 mac/permissions
#4780 [20:22] <VoxelHead> VietCong314: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#4781 [20:22] <VoxelHead> VietCong314: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#4782 [20:22] <Kealper> iirc he is talking about classic, not survival
#4783 [20:22] <VietCong314> hold on...
#4784 [20:23] <Moe_70> i got a question?
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#4786 [20:23] <webhead000> Hey i need help with minecraft multiplayer can any1 help?
#4787 [20:23] <Kealper> ?? ask
#4788 [20:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4789 [20:24] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4790 [20:24] <Moe_70> my friend just bought his game and he cant login to his game with minecraft.exe and sometimes he can login on the web browser one ar they having issues lol
#4791 [20:24] <VietCong314> now what? And at what point in registering was I to put anything in application?
#4792 [20:25] <Moe_70> is mojang having tech dificulties?
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#4794 [20:26] <webhead000> i bought the game yesterday,and seem to be having problems with multiplayer,it continuously says "connecting to server..." and i aske dmy friend,he said said that his works fine,he logs in a server automatically,but mine just keeps saying "connecting to server"
#4795 [20:26] <kidnutrageous> I've got a question about starting up my server
#4796 [20:26] <Kealper[Mib]> VietCong314: you want the free version, not the paid version, right?
#4797 [20:26] <Kealper> VietCong314: you want the free version, not the paid version, right?
#4798 [20:26] <Kealper[Mib]> woh...lol
#4799 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> webhead000 - He probably didn't set up his port forwarding correctly
#4800 [20:26] <Kealper[Mib]> stupid network is messing up bad right now
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#4802 [20:27] <webhead000> what do u mean? is the port the :2356 or whatever at the end of it?
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#4804 [20:27] <Moe_70> 25565
#4805 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> webhead000 - Try the server, s.nerd.nu
#4806 [20:27] <Moe_70> is the port he need open
#4807 [20:27] <nmkr> is there any official server list?
#4808 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#4809 [20:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4810 [20:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#4812 [20:28] <nmkr> great thx
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#4815 [20:30] <webhead000> ok.
#4816 [20:30] <webhead000> and when i do put the port,it does the same.
#4817 [20:30] <webhead000> it says theres no server s.nerd.nu what do u mean?
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#4819 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> webhead000 - Are you putting s.nerd.nu in the multiplayer field of your minecraft client?
#4820 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> Sorry, missed that
#4821 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> no, i get this error towards the end of my server window:
#4822 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#4823 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
#4824 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> etc etc
#4825 [20:31] <Kealper> OutOfMemoryError
#4826 [20:31] <Kealper> >OutOfMemory
#4827 [20:31] <Kealper> >>Out Of Memory
#4828 [20:31] <Kealper> ^
#4829 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> yes thank you
#4830 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> however, being as this is the ONLY bit of java i do, not really sure how to fix the issue
#4831 [20:31] <kidnutrageous> <—n00b
#4832 [20:31] <Kealper> how much ram does the machine have?
#4833 [20:31] <webhead000> im new to this so,i have no idea,and i have the real version not a fake before u ask.
#4834 [20:31] <webhead000> oh and heres some more info-if the server dosnt exist it says me in fast,it just says "conencting to server..." what do i do? anymore advice?
#4835 [20:31] * VoxelHead kicked webhead000 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: flood)
#4836 [20:31] <Kealper> !unload mod_nospam
#4837 [20:31] <Kealper> it's too laggy on the network to have that active right now
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#4840 [20:32] <VietCong314> Ok here is what I did: I got on to minecraft and registered a free account. I logged in and clicked "single player" under "classic." There was nothing in the area where the game should have been. The game instructions (what keys do what) was under where the game should have been, but the game was not there. No error message. What is wrong?
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#4842 [20:33] <Kealper> VietCong314: your Java is broke
#4843 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> VietCong314 - Have you installed java?
#4844 [20:33] <Kealper> or non-existant
#4845 [20:33] <VietCong314> Sorry this is the 3rd time but it logged me out of the chat so I need to hear your responses again.
#4846 [20:33] <Kealper> VietCong314: your Java is broke
#4847 [20:33] <Kealper> or non-existant
#4848 [20:33] <VietCong314> what? No I just updated it less than 30 minutes ago.
#4849 [20:33] <Kealper> wait a tick...
#4850 [20:34] <Kealper> you're on a mac, right?
#4851 [20:34] <Kealper> or am i confusing people?
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#4853 [20:34] <VietCong314> yep
#4854 [20:34] <Kealper> uh
#4855 [20:34] <Kealper> sorry to be blunt...but you're kind of screwed then
#4856 [20:34] <VietCong314> why?
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#4858 [20:35] <Kealper> because macs work great until something fails, then it's either you live with it not working or reinstall the entire operating system
#4859 [20:35] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#4860 [20:36] <Kealper> on the other hand...think of it this way: you were only trying to play the free one...it would have sucked a lot more of you bought it :P
#4861 [20:36] <Kealper> if*
#4862 [20:36] <VietCong314> Sorry to be equally blunt but that's a load of crap. My mac is less than a year old, is the best macbook on the market, and is a refurnished one.
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#4864 [20:36] <Kealper> refurnished means used :/
#4865 [20:37] <VietCong314> Look it up my friend.
#4866 [20:37] <Kealper> what is it's model?
#4867 [20:37] <VietCong314> They go through them with a fine toothed comb and they sell for a lot cheaper. This is better than right out of the box.
#4868 [20:38] <Kealper> but it still means used
#4869 [20:38] <Kealper> not saying there is anything wrong with it
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#4871 [20:38] <VietCong314> Mac OS X 10.6.7
#4872 [20:38] <Kealper> just saying your java install is broke
#4873 [20:38] <webhead000> sorry if i may of spammed.and continuing that last question:yes i em putting s.nurd.nu in the multiplayer,but its saying that it dosnt exist.
#4874 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> webhead000 - Try "s.nerd.nu"
#4875 [20:39] <VietCong314> but I just got it less than 30minutes ago! How can it break in 30 minutes?
#4876 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> not nurd
#4877 [20:39] <Kealper> and because Java is pretty much died into the OS on a mac....you either get to pull teeth without pain killers to reinstall it, or you reinstall the whole OS to fix it
#4878 [20:39] <webhead000> oh
#4879 [20:39] <webhead000> "failed to connect to server: Uknown host s.nurd.nu"
#4880 [20:39] <Kealper> VietCong314: it might not be totally broke, it might only be a certain component that Minecraft needs that is broke
#4881 [20:39] <Kealper> webhead000: nerd
#4882 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Again, it's s.nerd.nu
#4883 [20:40] <Kealper> NERD
#4884 [20:40] <webhead000> ...
#4885 [20:40] <Kealper> not nurd
#4886 [20:40] <webhead000> Connecting to server.......still
#4887 [20:40] <Kealper> !check s.nerd.nu
#4888 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> It should be up and running 1.6.6
#4889 [20:40] <VietCong314> I think its only one thing like you said. I am going to have someone else look at it. Thank you for your help anyway.
#4890 [20:41] <webhead000> still connecting....
#4891 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Thinking you've got some sort of security software on that machine blocking java from connecting with the outside webhead000
#4892 [20:41] <webhead000> norton?
#4893 [20:42] * Kealper coughs
#4893 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Norton security suite would do it
#4894 [20:42] <Kealper> webhead000: did you pay for Norton?
#4895 [20:42] <webhead000> um,lemme check into that.
#4896 [20:42] <webhead000> yes
#4897 [20:42] <webhead000> er mom did.
#4898 [20:42] <webhead000> lemme look into those settings.
#4899 [20:43] <mib_0a40rj> help me
#4900 [20:43] <Kealper> ??> mib_0a40rj ask
#4901 [20:43] <VoxelHead> mib_0a40rj: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4902 [20:43] <VoxelHead> mib_0a40rj: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4903 [20:45] <webhead000> ill ge tback to yall her ein a few.
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#4905 [20:47] <webhead000> ok its working
#4906 [20:47] <webhead000> i had to turn off firewall
#4907 [20:47] <webhead000> thanks guys.
#4908 [20:47] * GreyVulpine nods
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#4912 [21:06] <garrett> everytime i open up minecraft i get blackscreen then minecraft has crashed i tried both launchers and i tried in browser help pl0x?
#4913 [21:06] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#4914 [21:06] <Kealper> the error, that is
#4915 [21:07] <Kealper> that you get when it says "Minecraft has crashed!"
#4916 [21:08] <garrett> http://pastebin.com/S4rpLQPs
#4917 [21:09] <Kealper> garrett: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft
#4918 [21:09] <Kealper> delete the texturepacks folder
#4919 [21:09] <Kealper> and then heypresto
#4920 [21:09] <VoxelHead> toodle-oo
#4921 [21:10] <garrett> thanks its just now i have to find my tps again :(
#4922 [21:10] <Kealper> tps?
#4923 [21:11] <garrett> texture packs
#4924 [21:11] <VoxelHead> Texture packs... tacks.
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#4928 [21:13] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#4929 [21:14] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#4930 [21:14] <VoxelHead> Bye infectedphreak.
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#4932 [21:19] <schnozzle> hi
#4933 [21:19] <schnozzle> think you can help me out?
#4934 [21:19] <schnozzle> having trouble with the download... will not load. just black screen. anyone have this prob
#4935 [21:20] <AkiTensai> On download? As in the game won't patch?
#4936 [21:20] <schnozzle> ya
#4937 [21:21] <AkiTensai> For me, if I don't start the game "correctly" it will patch, then end up on black screen after it is done. This is because my Java doesn't understand my second monitor. If I turn it off before starting the game, it will work. Do you have a second monitor?
#4938 [21:22] <schnozzle> no 2nd monitor
#4939 [21:22] <schnozzle> ive tried both links for the dload also
#4940 [21:22] <AkiTensai> Then I'm out of solution. Kind of a one trick pony. >.>
#4941 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> With black screen issues, there's more than one possible solution
#4942 [21:23] <schnozzle> just updated directx too
#4943 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried completely uninstalling java and reinstalling it?
#4944 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use directx
#4945 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Make sure to install the version of java that most fits your OS.
#4946 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> 32bit Java for 32bit OS, 64bit java for 64 bit OS.
#4947 [21:23] <schnozzle> ok will try that one
#4948 [21:23] <AkiTensai> GreyVulpine: Have you had people in here asking about portals not linking correctly?
#4949 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> On top of that, make sure your video drivers are up to date
#4950 [21:23] <schnozzle> tyvm
#4951 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> AkiTensai - A couple, but I thought that was fixed shortly after nether portals were implemented
#4952 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Didn't think that bug came back
#4953 [21:24] <AkiTensai> It exist for me on Bukkit SMP, regular SSP, and vanilla SMP.
#4954 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Interesting, no, I haven't heard much about that bug cropping up again lately
#4955 [21:25] <AkiTensai> Picture journal of bug here: http://goo.gl/6djyr
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#4957 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4958 [21:27] <AkiTensai> Also, another user also able to reproduce the bug based on the provided directions: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/when-will-bukkit-be-updated-for-minecraft-1-6.18714/page-28#post-340440
#4959 [21:27] <AkiTensai> (my original post about that bug a few above that)
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#4962 [21:29] <reedlepee> my minecraft isn't loading all the way, how do i fix this?
#4963 [21:29] <reedlepee> like i log on and then the loading bar wont load all the way it stops.
#4964 [21:29] <AkiTensai> reedlepee: What does it look like before it gives up? A black screen?
#4965 [21:29] <VoxelHead> And thaaan?
#4966 [21:30] <Awesomeness> lol
#4967 [21:30] <reedlepee> its just its loading regular but then doesn't load completely.
#4968 [21:30] <AkiTensai> Loading bar, the updater?
#4969 [21:30] <reedlepee> yeah i guess
#4970 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> How far does the bar get?
#4971 [21:30] <Awesomeness> I'm front
#4972 [21:30] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE front? feel these nipples!
#4973 [21:30] <reedlepee> like its a half inche a way
#4974 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - What OS are you on?
#4975 [21:30] <reedlepee> OS?
#4976 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#4977 [21:31] <AkiTensai> Windows or Mac?
#4978 [21:31] <reedlepee> mac
#4979 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> ??> reedlepee mac/reinst
#4980 [21:31] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4981 [21:31] <reedlepee> mac
#4982 [21:31] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#4984 [21:33] <reedlepee> do i download MC again?
#4985 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Just launch minecraft again
#4986 [21:33] <reedlepee> how so?
#4987 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> How did you run minecraft in the first place?
#4988 [21:33] <reedlepee> download it
#4989 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Then just double click on the icon that you used again
#4990 [21:34] <reedlepee> kk
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#4993 [21:44] <skippydippy> cannot get to load... just a black screen any help out there?
#4994 [21:44] <skippydippy> wondering if my vid card is too old???
#4995 [21:45] <skippydippy> cpu has sis661fx card in it
#4996 [21:45] <skippydippy> will it support minecraft? or is it old?
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#4998 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> That's way too old
#4999 [21:48] <skippydippy> hey grey can u help me out?
#5000 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#5001 [21:48] <skippydippy> just getting a black screen when i goto load the game.
#5002 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Your SiS graphics chip is way too old to support minecraft, sorry.
#5003 [21:49] <skippydippy> have an older driver sis661fx
#5004 [21:49] <skippydippy> ok
#5005 [21:49] <skippydippy> thats what i thought
#5006 [21:49] <skippydippy> tyvm
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#5009 [21:56] <pheleas_frog> i keep getting an error message saying i need to update my driver
#5010 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Then update your driver.
#5011 [21:57] <pheleas_frog> it is
#5012 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> And how do you know that?
#5013 [21:57] <pheleas_frog> It says driver updated
#5014 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> What says your driver is updated?
#5015 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Please don't say windows update
#5016 [21:58] <pheleas_frog> When i click on the driver options
#5017 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Having Windows check your driver for updates never works.
#5018 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> it never checks for the most recent version
#5019 [21:59] <pheleas_frog> What do i do i just bought it and i cant play it
#5020 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Do you recall what video card you had?
#5021 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> What did you right click on when you went to driver options?
#5022 [22:00] <pheleas_frog> Radion something
#5023 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me the full name?
#5024 [22:00] <pheleas_frog> ya wait
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#5027 [22:17] <nine> whow never thought there would be a slow moment on here
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#5029 [22:26] <claude> hey
#5030 [22:26] <claude> everytime i try to log in on minecraft it tells me my account is not premium?
#5031 [22:26] <claude> can u help me with this
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#5033 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase an account at minecraft.net?
#5034 [22:27] <claude> yes
#5035 [22:27] <claude> multiple attempts
#5036 [22:27] <VoxelHead> multiple attempts... mattempts
#5037 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure your credit card or bank account was charged?
#5038 [22:28] <claude> everytime i tried to pay with the credit card it told me i couldnt use the credit card for 24 hours
#5039 [22:28] <claude> and then i clicked an ok button right under it and it says purchase completed and gave me the link to the download
#5040 [22:28] <claude> said*
#5041 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if your credit card was actually charged for the amount?
#5042 [22:29] <claude> well no, i dont really know how to find that out
#5043 [22:29] <claude> but it said purchase completed, so im assuming that it was
#5044 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily. Is there any way you can check your account balance online, or call up cardmember services using the number on the back of the card?
#5045 [22:30] <claude> um let me try
#5046 [22:31] <claude> ...
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#5052 [22:39] <ashtray123> !check
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#5054 [22:40] <ashtray123> any one got any problems or need help
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#5056 [22:41] <oldtopmanserver> HELPZ I HAZ THE P1RATED VERSION AND ITZ BORKED
#5057 [22:41] <oldtopmanserver> SOPPORT!!!
#5058 [22:41] <oldtopmanserver> :P
#5059 [22:41] <VoxelHead> ;)
#5060 [22:42] <VoxelHead> basically, i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#5061 [22:42] * oldtopmanserver high-fives VoxelHead
#5061 [22:42] * VoxelHead high-fives oldtopmanserver
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#5063 [22:50] <Triggerdusk> hey GV you in tonight?
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#5065 [22:52] <TheNytangel> I'm so tired..
#5066 [22:52] <TheNytangel> And sunburnt
#5067 [22:53] <oldtopmanserver> esper_buggingeveryonebyusingla: We have this thing called "tab-completion"
#5068 [22:53] <oldtopmanserver> You lose!
#5069 [22:55] <ShaRose> oldtopmanserver it was for another channel
#5070 [22:56] <oldtopmanserver> ShaRose: ooh
#5071 [22:56] <oldtopmanserver> Which one?
#5072 [22:56] <ShaRose> risucraft bans all nicks starting with esper_ on connect
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#5074 [22:57] <ShaRose> Thursday 12:26:12am === ☺♂♀T☼ Erroneous Nickname
#5075 [22:57] <ShaRose> ah well
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#5077 [23:06] <mowgli> when you force will the updates does it include all updates that haven't been used or just the latest?
#5078 [23:07] <oldtopmanserver> Just the latest ma'am
#5079 [23:08] <mowgli> how do you getting to execute the updates that you have missed?
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#5081 [23:09] <mowgli> i mean get not getting
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#5083 [23:12] <mowgli> when I click on the older updates that i missed it just takes me to some link, i'm not very computer savvy so any help would be appreciated.
#5084 [23:12] <xales> mowgli: When you force update, it will update minecraft to the latest version available
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#5086 [23:13] <mib_o595jrp> i have a question
#5087 [23:13] <xales> I have an answer
#5088 [23:13] <mowgli> okay thanks xales.
#5089 [23:14] <mib_o595jrp> I have my own server, and im wondering how i can get a sort of command to where anyone can type "/players" and see everyone whos online o nthe server
#5090 [23:14] <xales> A mod such as Bukkit
#5091 [23:14] <mib_o595jrp> what is that?
#5092 [23:14] <xales> CraftBukkit is a server mod that enables the use of other mods, sort of
#5093 [23:15] <mib_o595jrp> Could you guild me threw how to get that command working?
#5094 [23:15] <xales> Just install CraftBukkit
#5095 [23:15] <xales> (we can't help with that. Try reading the documentation)
#5096 [23:16] <mib_o595jrp> why cant you help?
#5097 [23:17] <xales> CraftBukkit is not official software and I personally do not use it; in addition, it is outside the scope of this channel
#5098 [23:17] <xales> There is, however, extensive documentation available online, as well as the #bukkit channel
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#5101 [23:35] <mib_6ost2b> Anyone there?
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#5103 [23:37] <Triggerdusk> where can i find my server plugins folder?
#5104 [23:38] <xales> Triggerdusk: Probably better off asking #bukkit
#5105 [23:40] <mib_6ost2b> Can I play on two different computers in my house and keep all my progress the same?
#5106 [23:40] <xales> Yes.
#5107 [23:40] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors#Backup_Utilities
#5108 [23:40] <mib_6ost2b> So it saves my progress on the servers?
#5109 [23:41] <xales> No
#5110 [23:42] <xales> You have to use one of the utilities in the article I just linked you to
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#5112 [23:43] <mib_6ost2b> So I could back up to a thumb drive and take it to a different computer
#5113 [23:43] <doppel> hello
#5114 [23:44] <mib_6ost2b> hi
#5115 [23:44] <xales> Yes
#5116 [23:44] <mib_6ost2b> Thank you
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#5118 [23:46] <mib_6ost2b> The game must use cookies to track progress. That means I should be backing up my game in case my cookies get erased.
#5119 [23:46] <xales> It does not use cookies
#5120 [23:46] <mib_6ost2b> ok
#5121 [23:47] <mib_6ost2b> thanx again. cya
#5122 [23:47] <doppel> that would be one huge cookie
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#5126 [23:54] <mib_4z1pp1> I have been recieving a crash when launching minecraft. I start it up, log in and it loads for a split second and then goes black and an error message comes up. Any help?
#5127 [23:55] <xales> ?? error
#5128 [23:55] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#5129 [23:55] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#5130 [23:55] <doppel> so i'm watchin this time lapse video
#5131 [23:55] <doppel> of a city being built in minecraft
#5132 [23:55] <doppel> heheheh
#5133 [23:55] <VoxelHead> =]
#5134 [23:59] <doppel> it's amazing to see such a level of dedication