#MinecraftHelp > 2011-06-23
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#2 [00:00] <mib_bkminj> allright my minecraft wont download it just stops at downloading pages
#3 [00:00] <ddnbb> i should run "start server" first, right?
#4 [00:00] <xales> ddnbb: That's the only one you should run
#5 [00:00] <xales> ??> mib_bkminj win/reinst
#6 [00:00] <VoxelHead> mib_bkminj: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#7 [00:00] <VoxelHead> mib_bkminj: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#8 [00:00] <ddnbb> Well it says something weird, in Finnish and tells me to press any button
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#10 [00:01] <ddnbb> and when i press it, it closes the console
#11 [00:01] <xales> ddnbb: Can you attempt to translate it, or maybe just use Google Translate?
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#13 [00:01] <ddnbb> ok i try
#14 [00:01] <pudgetta> excuse meee
#15 [00:01] <pudgetta> can anyone help me set up a server
#16 [00:01] <pudgetta> im a newb
#17 [00:02] <xales> pudgetta: What aspect of that do you require assistance with?
#18 [00:02] <pudgetta> ok so i started it
#19 [00:02] <pudgetta> nd i put my ip in the multiplayer but it dosent join
#20 [00:02] <ddnbb> Java command is not recognized as an internal or external command,
#21 [00:02] <ddnbb> program or batch file.
#22 [00:02] <ddnbb> To continue, press any key. . .
#23 [00:02] <xales> ddnbb: Oh, you'll need to put Java into your PATH
#24 [00:03] <xales> #risucraft can probably be of more help with that than I can :|
#25 [00:03] <xales> pudgetta: Did you port forward?
#26 [00:03] <mib_bkminj> nope till wont work just freezes at downloading packages and ive deleted the files in the .minecraft any other suggestions
#27 [00:03] <pudgetta> no i did not do i need to?
#28 [00:03] <xales> mib_bkminj: Does your Windows username have an ! in it?
#29 [00:03] <pudgetta> nno
#30 [00:03] <mib_bkminj> no
#31 [00:03] <xales> pudgetta: Go to http://portforward.com/ and find the model of your router, skip the ad, and click Minecraft Server, then follow the instructions. Do not click any of the ads, and do not download anything from that website
#32 [00:04] <pudgetta> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.6.6 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 69.123.4.116:25565 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port
#33 [00:04] <DeM0nFiRe> Thanks AndrewPH this is exactly what I was looking for http://wiki.vg/Protocol
#34 [00:04] <AndrewPH> DeM0nFiRe: No problemo
#35 [00:04] <xales> pudgetta: You have to leave the server-ip line blank. You cannot put an IP ther
#36 [00:04] <ddnbb> xales well thanks anyway :/
#37 [00:04] <AndrewPH> ~off to go play zelda~
#38 [00:04] <pudgetta> ohh
#39 [00:04] <pudgetta> it was in a tut...
#40 [00:04] <xales> pudgetta: Then the tutorial you found is incorrect
#41 [00:05] <mib_bkminj> uh
#42 [00:05] <xales> ??> mib_bkminj win/profile
#43 [00:05] <VoxelHead> mib_bkminj: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#44 [00:05] <VoxelHead> mib_bkminj: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#45 [00:05] <mib_bkminj> ok
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#47 [00:06] <pudgetta> hmm its still not working
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#49 [00:06] <xales> pudgetta: You also have to port forward
#50 [00:06] <pudgetta> omg its so annoying
#51 [00:06] <pudgetta> ok ill try
#52 [00:07] <mib_1eqawk> okay, i dont know what i did, but i downloaded a texture pack and now minecraft wont even start
#53 [00:07] <Michl3545> i'm impressed they didn't ask how to port forward.
#54 [00:07] <Michl3545> ??> mib_1eqawk win/reinst
#55 [00:07] <VoxelHead> mib_1eqawk: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#56 [00:08] <VoxelHead> mib_1eqawk: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#57 [00:10] <mib_1eqawk> yay thanks
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#64 [00:23] <mib_9bwi32> i foundthe answer to my problem when it freezed up once i hit downloading packages what i did was right click on the minecraft file and click run as administrator hope this helps anyone
#65 [00:24] <Michl3545> mib_9bwi32: silly UAC
#66 [00:24] <Michl3545> mib_9bwi32: you are on win7/vista, i assume
#67 [00:24] <mib_9bwi32> yah
#68 [00:25] <Michl3545> yeah, the new UAC microsoft put in likes to mess with things
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#70 [00:25] <mib_9bwi32> oh
#71 [00:25] <Michl3545> thanks for telling me!
#72 [00:25] <mib_9bwi32> welcome im gonna go play minecraft now bye
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#74 [00:27] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine
#75 [00:29] <pudgetta> wait how do i find what port minecraft server is using
#76 [00:29] <Michl3545> it is 25565 by default
#77 [00:29] <Awesomeness> Pudgetta: Where your minecraftserver is located, there should be a file called server.properties
#78 [00:30] <Awesomeness> Open it with notepad or a text editor program, then look at port=
#79 [00:30] <pudgetta> oh ok thx
#80 [00:30] <Awesomeness> it should be 25565, but it could be around there.
#81 [00:30] <Michl3545> they could have changed it, i suppose
#82 [00:31] <pudgetta> no ur right
#83 [00:31] <pudgetta> its 25565 :D
#84 [00:31] <Awesomeness> That's nice.
#85 [00:32] <pudgetta> funny how none of the tuts say to port forward
#86 [00:32] <Awesomeness> They don't?
#87 [00:32] <Awesomeness> That's odd, they should. :|
#88 [00:32] <pudgetta> not on utube
#89 [00:32] <Awesomeness> >Youtube
#90 [00:32] <Awesomeness> Youtube is for 12 year old trolls. :|
#91 [00:37] <Michl3545> well, bedtime. g2g
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#94 [00:38] <bugweiser> 07:36:18 Setting up 07:36:18 Loading level 07:36:18 Now accepting input on 25565 07:36:18 Level saved! Load: 0/16 07:36:21 /127.0.0.1 connected 07:36:26 Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in! 07:36:26 /127.0.0.1 disconnected
#95 [00:38] <bugweiser> Why this happens?
#96 [00:38] <Awesomeness> PLEASE, use http://www.pastebin.com/ it is NOT the same as copy, and paste. Thank you!
#97 [00:38] <bugweiser> http://pastebin.com/a666Jgr4
#98 [00:38] <bugweiser> Why this happens please?
#99 [00:39] <Awesomeness> What is your Minecraft username?
#100 [00:39] <xales> ??> bugweiser smp/needlogin
#101 [00:39] <VoxelHead> bugweiser: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#102 [00:39] <bugweiser> ddnbb
#103 [00:39] <VoxelHead> bugweiser: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#104 [00:39] <Awesomeness> !Paid ddnbb
#105 [00:39] <Awesomeness> errr, do what Voxel said.
#106 [00:39] <bugweiser> ahh
#107 [00:39] <bugweiser> thank u
#108 [00:39] <Awesomeness> u r welcomes
#109 [00:39] <bugweiser> :)
#110 [00:41] <pudgetta> guys my router does not let me change the port forward ip address to the one i need
#111 [00:41] <pudgetta> it says
#112 [00:41] <pudgetta> You cannot use the Router IP, network or broadcast address
#113 [00:42] <xales> pudgetta: Then you aren't putting in the correct IP
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#115 [00:44] <bugweiser> ok can i have classic software link plesae? ...
#116 [00:44] <bugweiser> ah got it now
#117 [00:45] <bugweiser> is minecraft using UDP or TCP?
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#119 [00:45] <xales> TCP
#120 [00:45] <bugweiser> oki
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#122 [00:46] <pudgetta> i cant get itt
#123 [00:47] <bugweiser> "Connection lost! The name wasnt verified by minecraft.net" OMG WHAT NOW??
#124 [00:48] <bugweiser> ok it fixed it itself lol
#125 [00:49] <bugweiser> but how can i get empty map?
#126 [00:49] <bugweiser> not any generated
#127 [00:50] <bugweiser> olaa?
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#129 [00:52] <bugweiser> help?
#130 [00:52] <bugweiser> everyone is like "this noob know nothing" probaply
#131 [00:53] <bugweiser> ffs
#132 [00:58] <Awesomeness> :D
#133 [00:58] <Awesomeness> We didn't say it, you did. loll
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#136 [01:00] <bugweiser> well
#137 [01:00] <Awesomeness> xales doesn't love me anymore
#138 [01:00] <Awesomeness> :(
#139 [01:00] <bugweiser> wheeere i can get flat map to mc classic?
#140 [01:00] <xales> bugweiser: Google it.
#141 [01:00] <bugweiser> i did
#142 [01:00] <bugweiser> AND I CANT GET IT
#143 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? classic/flatmap
#144 [01:01] <VoxelHead> classic/flatmap: To get a flat classic map, you can either make one youself with the Omen classic map editor, or download one.
#145 [01:01] <VoxelHead> classic/flatmap: An already generated flat map can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wzj0nygngzn/512x512x256 Flat Grass.dat
#146 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> ^
#147 [01:01] <Awesomeness> Vulpine
#148 [01:01] <Awesomeness> I must pee em you.
#149 [01:01] <Awesomeness> mmk?
#150 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> No
#151 [01:01] <Awesomeness> Why not?
#152 [01:01] <bugweiser> Thank you
#153 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Because. xales will /kill you
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#156 [01:02] <Awesomeness> :(
#157 [01:02] <mib_0oz7ki> Does anyone know how to force mincraft to update?
#158 [01:02] <Awesomeness> pwease
#159 [01:02] <Awesomeness> I must tawk to youuu
#160 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_0oz7ki - Launcher -> options -> force update
#161 [01:02] <xales> mib_0oz7ki: Click "force update" in the launcher's options
#162 [01:02] <dopeghoti> you _are_ talking to GreyVulpine
#163 [01:02] <mib_0oz7ki> waht baller's you guys
#164 [01:03] <Awesomeness> DopeGhoti, you don't say.
#165 [01:03] <dopeghoti> I did too say.
#166 [01:03] <Awesomeness> GV, pm me. naows. >.>
#167 [01:03] * GreyVulpine hides behind xales' oper
#167 [01:03] <Awesomeness> y u hate me. D:
#168 [01:03] <dopeghoti> ??> Awesomeness dont/tweet
#169 [01:03] <VoxelHead> Awesomeness: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you' and 'are', and not 'u' and 'r'.
#170 [01:04] <Awesomeness> no u
#171 [01:04] <Awesomeness> r u mad yet?
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#173 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> And with that, my attention is directed elsewhere.
#174 [01:04] <Awesomeness> ....
#175 [01:04] <Awesomeness> I am feeling unspecial.
#176 [01:04] <Awesomeness> :(
#177 [01:05] <dopeghoti> you're so special you deserve your own special bus.
#178 [01:06] <Awesomeness> u lie
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#180 [01:06] <Awesomeness> And I R Going To Capitalize Every First Letter Of A Word
#181 [01:06] <Awesomeness> R U Mad, Bro?
#182 [01:07] * xales kicked Awesomeness from #minecrafthelp (Reason: canteloupe)
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#184 [01:07] <Awesomeness> serious question: what does canteloupe mean?
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#186 [01:08] <Awesomeness> Y U No Answer My Question?
#187 [01:08] <Awesomeness> Okay, I'll stop.
#188 [01:08] <Awesomeness> Fuck, that's annoying as hell. lol
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#194 [01:24] <red2> when installing minecraft we get the error msg Bad video card drivers, what does this mean?
#195 [01:24] <dopeghoti> it means you probably have to update your video drivers.
#196 [01:24] <red2> how do we do this?
#197 [01:25] <dopeghoti> that depends on what video adapter you have.
#198 [01:26] <red2> how do we know what we have, we know its 2002 xp
#199 [01:26] <Awesomeness> 2002 xp?
#200 [01:26] <xales> ??> red2 win/dxdiag
#201 [01:26] <Awesomeness> is that a new OS by Microsoft?
#202 [01:26] <VoxelHead> red2: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#203 [01:26] <VoxelHead> red2: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#205 [01:31] <chucknorrispain> hey, i have a problem, when i try to connect to a server, it says connection refused
#206 [01:31] <xales> The server is down
#207 [01:31] <chucknorrispain> k
#208 [01:33] <relsqui> lol
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#210 [01:33] <relsqui> that was easy
#211 [01:33] <xales> "Too easy - they'll be back"
#212 [01:37] <red2> we have saved to desktop what info do you need
#213 [01:37] <xales> red2: The entire thing, ideally
#214 [01:38] <red2> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 6/23/2011, 15:33:56 Machine name: USER-PC6G5 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.091208-2036) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. System
#215 [01:38] <xales> You have to use pastebin, as the instructions say
#216 [01:38] <xales> You can't paste it here.
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#219 [01:45] <red2> we've pasted it onto paste bin what do we do now
#220 [01:45] <xales> You have to give us the link to it
#221 [01:47] <red2> http://pastebin.com/2PPsrRyh
#222 [01:47] <xales> bleh
#223 [01:47] * xales is pretty sure that's too old to run Minecraft
#223 [01:47] <xales> You could try playing it in your browser with hardware acceleration off, but if that doesn't work...
#224 [01:47] <xales> try this:
#225 [01:48] <xales> first, update your video driver from here: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#226 [01:56] <red2> still updating video driver
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#229 [02:08] <LordEddi> Hm, just to be certain; -Xmx4G would mean that I assigned 4 gigs of ram to the server, yes?
#230 [02:08] <xales> Yes
#231 [02:08] <LordEddi> Thanks, xales:)
#232 [02:09] <LordEddi> Not entirely unrelated, but do you happen to know if you can add a "RAM quota" for a user in linux? >.>
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#234 [02:10] <LordEddi> Took abit of water over my head going with this linux server i think xD
#235 [02:10] <xales> You can, in fact
#236 [02:11] <xales> Look at `man limits.conf`
#237 [02:11] <LordEddi> Cheers :)
#238 [02:11] <Kata> Can anyone help me with something? I've played Minecraft for a while now, but after the 1.6 update I've noticed that my framerates slowed down -drastically- I mean they went from 150 to a miserable 20 ish. I play Shogun 2 on Maximum without much of an issue and I can't run Minecraft properly.
#239 [02:11] <Kata> Is this a known issues or is it my machine?
#240 [02:12] <xales> Kata: Hmm
#241 [02:12] <xales> ??> Kata win/reinst
#242 [02:12] <VoxelHead> Kata: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#243 [02:12] <VoxelHead> Kata: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#244 [02:13] <Kata> I did that, thanks for suggesting it though. Played around with the GPU settings, reinstalled Java, deleted minecraft folders, redwonloaded the files
#245 [02:13] <xales> As far as GPU settings: In the control panel for the GPU, make sure everything is "let application decide" or "default"
#246 [02:14] <Kata> Also I have a 64 bit system and minecraft runs on Java 32.. Is there a way to force it to use 64 instead?
#247 [02:14] <LordEddi> @minecraft hard memlock 4194304
#248 [02:15] <LordEddi> >.>
#249 [02:15] <LordEddi> So yeah, thats not the place i meant to paste that.
#250 [02:16] <Kata> I had a few PC issues and reinstalled windows. After that Minecraft never run the same. Worse framerate. >< It has to be my machine. Not entirely sure what exactly or how. Reinstaled Java... did everything I could think of. I really do blame Java for this as it's a memory hog.
#251 [02:17] <xales> LordEddi: I'm not sure if memlock is what you want, but you shouldn't need to cap it anyway
#252 [02:17] <xales> Kata: Do you have the latest GPU driver?
#253 [02:17] <Kata> Yeah, said everything was up to date, xales
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#255 [02:18] <xales> Kata: What GPU do you have?
#256 [02:18] <LordEddi> xales: The reason I am doing it is because once I am done with the initial config, I'll let another guy administer it.
#257 [02:18] <Kata> ATI radeon 4870x2
#258 [02:19] <LordEddi> Just incase at some point he feels like "Hm, 4 gigs is to little. Lets grab 8 for minecraft"
#259 [02:19] <LordEddi> ^^
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#261 [02:19] <xales> Kata: Oh. Try completely uninstalling Java, and installing only the 64-bit version
#262 [02:20] <Kata> If I only install the 64-bit version when I start up minecraft I get the error saying I don't have Java installed.
#263 [02:20] <xales> And you are using the download client, correct?
#264 [02:20] <Kata> I think so
#265 [02:21] <xales> hmm
#266 [02:21] <xales> and are all the settings in the Catalyst Control Center at "let application decide" or "default" or whatever
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#268 [02:21] <Kata> Just checked them. The ones that I can put on application are like that th eother ones are on best performance or simply disabled.
#269 [02:22] <Kata> I was hoping there was a way to force Minecraf to use my 64 bit version of Java. Couldn't find it through googling..
#270 [02:22] <xales> That is >probably< not the issue
#271 [02:23] <xales> Hmm..you're on 1.6.6, right?
#272 [02:23] <Kata> yep.
#273 [02:23] <Kata> I checked in game, pressed f3, it's only using 10% of the available ram so that's not the problem either.
#274 [02:23] <Kata> (I have 6 gigs of that fyi)
#275 [02:23] <xales> hmm..might be a CPU issue...
#276 [02:24] <xales> what's the CPU usage when it's running
#277 [02:24] <Kata> hm
#278 [02:24] <Kata> hmmm
#279 [02:24] <Kata> hold on
#280 [02:25] <Kata> Around 40 right now. I usually increase priority to high, but didn't work. It's weird. The other day it was working fine now it isn't anymore. Just after I reinstalled windows.
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#282 [02:26] <xales> Kata: Huh...I have no idea then
#283 [02:27] <xales> Kata: Some things to try - close all other programs, disable any security software (sometimes they can chew up your CPU, especially with games) and try running it, reboot and try running it before running anything else...
#284 [02:28] <Kata> I didn't have NOD32 before when I used to play it.
#285 [02:28] <Kata> Now I do. But it's disabled.
#286 [02:28] <xales> It's probably not that then...I have no other ideas, really
#287 [02:28] <xales> Maybe someone else here will at some point, and you also could try asking on the forum (when it's back up)
#288 [02:29] <Kata> Yeah I was gonna post on the forums but noticed it was down lol. :p Took pictures of my settings and everything.
#289 [02:30] <Kata> Thanks for trying anyway. I did the basic stuff I could think of. I read something about a fps limiter but I also think I read on the patch notes that Notch removed it so..
#290 [02:31] <xales> It was re-added
#291 [02:31] <xales> (With a different name)
#292 [02:33] <Kata> I put in on Max FPS on the game settings
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#295 [02:40] <Kata> xales, this is really weird, but if I don't maximise the window and just leave it a little bit just below my maximum resolution the frames go back to 150.. but the moment I make it into the max resolution which is just a tiny bit above the current resolution, suddenly drops
#296 [02:40] <Kata> I have no idea why it's happening but I guess it's more or less fixed.
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#298 [02:41] <xales> Interesting. Well, glad you got it fixed :)
#299 [02:41] <Kata> thanks!
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#301 [02:45] <LordEddi> Couldnt understand why I couldnt start the server..
#302 [02:45] <LordEddi> Then I realised i forgot to install java.
#303 [02:45] <LordEddi> Its to early for this..
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#305 [02:50] <red2> should the driver update still be installing?
#306 [02:50] <xales> red2: probably not :|
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#308 [02:53] <LordEddi> !port mc.fsock.org
#309 [02:54] <LordEddi> Ok, its been to long since I was here xD
#310 [02:54] <xales> !check
#311 [02:54] <LordEddi> !check mc.fsock.org
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#313 [02:56] <LordEddi> Now, if I only found some poor slob that could test that it actually works *eyes the channel*
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#317 [03:03] <Sampson> can anyone help me?
#318 [03:03] <xales> If you tell us what the problem is
#319 [03:04] <Sampson> me and my friends just wanted to make a server so we can play together, how can we do that?
#320 [03:04] <xales> ??> Sampson smp/serversetup
#321 [03:04] <VoxelHead> Sampson: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#322 [03:04] <VoxelHead> Sampson: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#323 [03:04] <Sampson> okay
#324 [03:04] <Sampson> another question
#325 [03:04] <xales> Actually
#326 [03:04] <xales> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FTutorials%2FSetting_up_a_server&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
#327 [03:05] <xales> Because the wiki is down right now
#328 [03:05] <Sampson> are there any consiquences if we do something like install TooManyItems?
#329 [03:05] <xales> No
#330 [03:05] <Sampson> i havnt instyalled it yet im just wondering
#331 [03:05] <Sampson> well is there an easy way of doing that?
#332 [03:05] <xales> You are free to do whatever you want with your game, there is no official/central anything except the login servers
#333 [03:05] <xales> And, by following the installation instructiosn
#334 [03:06] <Sampson> is there an easy way that u know of that i could download tmi?
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#336 [03:06] <xales> Just follow the instructions in the forum post, when it is back online
#337 [03:07] <Sampson> and do u know of any good servers?
#338 [03:07] <xales> ??> Sampson smp/servers
#339 [03:07] <VoxelHead> Sampson: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#340 [03:07] <VoxelHead> Sampson: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#341 [03:07] <Sampson> =O
#342 [03:07] <Sampson> LAST QUESTION!
#343 [03:07] <Sampson> :D
#344 [03:08] <Sampson> How can i install a flying mod, cuz i like to build sky high but its too difficult jumpiong and jumping?
#345 [03:08] <Sampson> ?
#346 [03:09] <Sampson> Please help :
#347 [03:09] <xales> Find a mod, follow the instructions to install it
#348 [03:09] <xales> It's outside the scope of what we can help with, sorry
#349 [03:09] <Sampson> but i cant find one
#350 [03:09] <Sampson> the only thing i know is Mod installer but it wont work ):
#351 [03:09] <Sampson> is there nothing else?
#352 [03:10] <xales> I wouldn't know
#353 [03:10] <Sampson> ):
#354 [03:10] <Sampson> :(
#355 [03:10] <Sampson> Goodbye then
#356 [03:10] <LordEddi> 'giggles'
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#359 [03:11] <Stevarius> need some help with a crash error since the wiki is down
#360 [03:11] <xales> ??> Stevarius error
#361 [03:11] <VoxelHead> Stevarius: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#362 [03:11] <VoxelHead> Stevarius: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#363 [03:11] <Stevarius> keep running out of memory despite running a btach to increae it
#364 [03:11] <xales> Are you on a 64-bit system?
#365 [03:11] <Stevarius> yea
#366 [03:11] <xales> Install the 64-bit Java
#367 [03:12] <Stevarius> k
#368 [03:12] <Stevarius> ty :D
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#386 [04:17] <lilybet> hey guys
#387 [04:17] <lilybet> can some1 help me?
#388 [04:17] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Ask
#389 [04:18] <Tanjoodo_iPod> lilybet: Ask your question.
#390 [04:18] <lilybet> My Java Platform SE binary has stopped working
#391 [04:19] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Restart the game.
#392 [04:19] <lilybet> been doing that
#393 [04:19] <lilybet> doesent work
#394 [04:19] <Tanjoodo_iPod> What system are you on?
#395 [04:19] <lilybet> what do u mean OS?
#396 [04:20] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Yes.
#397 [04:20] <Tanjoodo_iPod> And is it 32bit or 64bit?
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#399 [04:20] <lilybet> vista but an older version
#400 [04:20] <lilybet> idk
#401 [04:21] <dopeghoti> Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
#402 [04:21] <dopeghoti> get all recommended updated
#403 [04:21] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Right click on Computer icon and click properties.
#404 [04:21] <dopeghoti> then go back, and keep going back until it says there are no more updates to get
#405 [04:21] <Tanjoodo_iPod> If it's 64 bit make sure you installed 64 bit Windows.
#406 [04:22] <lilybet> my vist is very ol i think like 98 or like 200
#407 [04:23] <lilybet> 2000
#408 [04:23] <lilybet> *
#409 [04:23] <Tanjoodo_iPod> That's not Vista...
#410 [04:23] <lilybet> it says it tho D:
#411 [04:23] <Tanjoodo_iPod> You mean Windows?
#412 [04:23] <lilybet> NO
#413 [04:23] <lilybet> it says windows vista
#414 [04:23] <lilybet> loll
#415 [04:24] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ... I don't get it...
#416 [04:24] <dopeghoti> ↑
#417 [04:24] <dopeghoti> or, if it's _actually_ Vista
#418 [04:24] <dopeghoti> go to the Control panel
#419 [04:24] <dopeghoti> and into Windows Update
#420 [04:24] <dopeghoti> and get allupdates.
#421 [04:26] <lilybet> im installing all 59m yupdate woh ipeenniresr this mightt take ah
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#423 [04:28] <lilybet> any1 there? or am i just talking to myselfffffffffffffff
#424 [04:28] <lilybet> should i email that guy?
#425 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> We have no idea what: "nstalling all 59m yupdate woh ipeenniresr this mightt take ah" means
#426 [04:28] <lilybet> sopeerry im kpeinbda istired dilckots opfo optypos
#427 [04:29] <lilybet> im tired there are alot of typos sorry
#428 [04:29] <lilybet> :P
#429 [04:29] <lilybet> i ment to smaeny im ipnesnitsalli
#430 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> That actually takes effort to type like that.
#431 [04:29] <lilybet> ng all 59p enisupdate
#432 [04:29] <lilybet> s
#433 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> I still have no idea what you're saying
#434 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> If you could kindly stop mashing on the keyboard, we'll respond to you quicker
#435 [04:30] <lilybet> im installing all 59 updates
#436 [04:30] <lilybet> 51%
#437 [04:30] <lilybet> !!!
#438 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, check back with us when you're done with those.
#439 [04:31] <Keltinray> Anyone have any good tools at hand for dealing with map corruption? I have some misplaced chunks with massive ammounts of mobs in them. They make my server unhappy.
#440 [04:31] <Keltinray> I'd check forums, but them forums be dead.
#441 [04:31] <lilybet> ^^^^^^
#442 [04:32] <dopeghoti> ?? nullsave
#443 [04:32] <VoxelHead> nullsave: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#444 [04:32] <VoxelHead> nullsave: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#445 [04:32] <lilybet> ty
#446 [04:32] <lilybet> so r u custmer suppor in like the UK?
#447 [04:33] <Keltinray> thankies
#448 [04:33] <dopeghoti> \o
#449 [04:33] <dopeghoti> lilybet: are you.. drunk?
#450 [04:33] <lilybet> no just a bit tired
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#452 [04:36] <lilybet> is anybody here to help :(
#453 [04:37] <lilybet> its done!
#454 [04:37] <dopeghoti> it's probably telling you, then, that you need to reboot to finalize the updates?
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#456 [04:38] <lilybet> dang it was just downloading the updates..
#457 [04:40] <lilybet> 6 of 18 done wooo
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#461 [04:47] <lilybet> penis penis penis penisis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penisis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penisis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penisis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penispenis penis penis penisis pen
#462 [04:47] <dopeghoti> right
#463 [04:47] <dopeghoti> bye then
#464 [04:48] <lilybet> well nobody done jack diddly to help me
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#474 [05:38] <obi_wan> my minecraft just goes black and then shuts down as soon as i log in
#475 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error messages? Any files named hs_err_pid in the directory where you have the minecraft launcher?
#476 [05:38] <obi_wan> nope
#477 [05:38] <obi_wan> it just closes :/
#478 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> No files created that start with hs_err_pid either?
#479 [05:39] <obi_wan> no
#480 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you please follow these directions, at the end, either post the final results on pastebin.com, or take a screenshot
#481 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#482 [05:40] <obi_wan> yeah sure :)
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#484 [05:43] <obi_wan> what are the directions?
#485 [05:43] <obi_wan> oh ok
#486 [05:43] <obi_wan> :)
#487 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Instructions are here -> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
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#490 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Back in 10.
#491 [05:53] <Ghozer> Is there any known bugs or issues with redstone circuits and repeaters covering great distances... I'm talking specifically about switching at one end, and it only gets 1/2 way along the system even with repeaters every 6 blocks
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#494 [06:05] <Marcpalmisad> I've got the last version of java and the launcher asks for java runtime environment 1.5.0
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#498 [06:13] <obi_wan> i followd the instructions, it opened minecraft and then when i logged in it whent black and closed again
#499 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Did you add pause to the second line?
#500 [06:14] <obi_wan> yes
#501 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Did anything appear in the black command prompt?
#502 [06:14] <obi_wan> yes
#503 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you please either copy the text and post it to pastebin.com, or take a screenshot of it?
#504 [06:15] <obi_wan> do i put the screen shot on that website?
#505 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Use imgur.com or imageshack, or an image hosting site of your choice
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#507 [06:16] <obi_wan> oop, this time when it closed it put one of those hs_err_pid1292 things
#508 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Great, go into it, copy it all, and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give me the URL to it
#509 [06:17] <obi_wan> ok
#510 [06:18] <obi_wan> http://pastebin.com/uLMSR317
#511 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you uninstall Java from your Windows Control panel, and reinstall it from www.java.com?
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#513 [06:21] <obi_wan> i will do, but i have already tryed that
#514 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Did you mod minecraft in any way?
#515 [06:22] <obi_wan> nope, new computer
#516 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. Try completely uninstalling java before you install it again then.
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#518 [06:23] <obi_wan> ok, it playes the free version fine, but as soon as i either download the paid version or play it in browser it goes black and closes
#519 [06:25] <blueffirefox3> i have seen my bro play mc so it may be your pc
#520 [06:26] <obi_wan> brb in 5 minuetts
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#523 [06:28] <obi_wan> im back iv uninstalled java
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#526 [06:30] <obi_wan> do i just install the latest java then?
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#528 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#529 [06:30] <obi_wan> cool
#530 [06:31] <HIz> hi i have a problem whit minecraft i get a error called could not create a virtural machine :S i have the latest java
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#532 [06:32] <Argon> hello, can someone tell me how i downgrade minecraft 1,7 to 1,5_01?
#533 [06:33] <_303> wait, 1.7 isn't out, is it?
#534 [06:33] <HIz> no its not
#535 [06:33] <HIz> 1.6.6 is the latest
#536 [06:33] <obi_wan> downloaded :)
#537 [06:33] <Argon> yea wathewer how do i downgrade rom 1,6.6
#538 [06:34] <Marcpalmisad> :)
#539 [06:34] <Marcpalmisad> ;)
#540 [06:35] <obi_wan> now what?
#541 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Launch minecraft?
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#543 [06:37] <Kade> er, you don't downgrade unless you have the old files :P
#544 [06:38] <Argon> yea but i want to play on a server that has not upgraded yet but i have therfore i have to downgrade
#545 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> The only legal way of downgrading, is to have the old files yourself.
#546 [06:39] <blueffirefox3> the registry refers to a nonexistent java runtime environemt installation or the runtime is corruptet WTF...
#547 [06:39] <obi_wan> still closes
#548 [06:39] <obi_wan> this is really annoying lol :)
#549 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Hmm. could you give me a dxdiag?
#550 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> obi_wan win/dxdiag
#551 [06:40] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#552 [06:40] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#554 [06:41] <obi_wan> how do i give you a dxdaig?
#555 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Post it on pastebin.com
#556 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> The instructions are above
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#558 [06:44] <IceQubed> Hey, is anybody around?
#559 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope, all dead
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#561 [06:44] <IceQubed> I'm having an issue with the MC client, and the web version too.
#562 [06:45] <IceQubed> With the downloadable exe, it says could not connect to minecraft.net
#563 [06:45] <IceQubed> And when I attempt to use the web version I get a java error log.
#564 [06:45] <IceQubed> 1 sec, pastebinning it
#565 [06:46] <IceQubed> http://pastebin.com/0Tu7kcsJ
#566 [06:47] <IceQubed> However, I _can_ log in and play with an older version of the exe (Which I 'found' ;) )
#567 [06:47] <obi_wan> http://pastebin.com/cLAKVvEb
#568 [06:47] * GreyVulpine eyerolls at IceQubed
#568 [06:48] <IceQubed> I have bought it
#569 [06:48] <IceQubed> So I do have a license to play it
#570 [06:48] <IceQubed> And I'm obviously attempting to get the official versions working.
#571 [06:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: only I'm allowed to eyeroll / roll my eyes
#572 [06:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::3
#573 [06:49] <IceQubed> Any thoughts?
#574 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Holy crap that is an old computer.
#575 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - I don't think your SiS 661FX/GX Mirage Graphics is sufficient for minecraft
#576 [06:50] <obi_wan> yeah i thoght that might be the problem
#577 [06:50] <obi_wan> the proceddors pretty good thogh, i am buying a new graphics card soon so i hope that sorts it
#578 [06:51] <obi_wan> *processor*
#579 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - You may also want to look at RAM as well
#580 [06:51] <obi_wan> thanks for your help dude at least i know that that is the problem and not something else :)
#581 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft tries to use up to a gig of RAM by itself. You have 700 megs
#582 [06:52] <obi_wan> i will get 2gb
#583 [06:53] <IceQubed> http://pastebin.com/AzM6yy60 My system is fine, it's some java issue I assume?
#584 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - One moment, let me have a look at your pastebins
#585 [06:54] <IceQubed> Oh by the way, this started happening quite a while ago
#586 [06:55] <IceQubed> About the time the last major update came out
#587 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you try going to C:\Users\Ben\.minecraft and delete everything inside except for your saves/screenshots/
#588 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> er, wait.. I'm getting that path wrong
#589 [06:56] <IceQubed> Yeah, I believe I have tried that but I'll try again
#590 [06:56] <IceQubed> I've also just reinstalled java
#591 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> c:\Users\Ben\.minecraft\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
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#593 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Bah, i'm tired
#594 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> c:\Users\Ben\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#595 [06:57] <IceQubed> Yeah, I know the path, I'm actually a server admin of a medium community, not just a total newb :p
#596 [06:57] <IceQubed> I just can't get my head around this
#597 [07:00] <IceQubed> Nope, when I redownload the client after deleting all o f that it still says "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" when I attempt to log in
#598 [07:01] <DarkNoddy> what happens if you go to minecraft.net in your browser? :P
#599 [07:01] <IceQubed> Spews this out
#600 [07:01] <IceQubed> http://pastebin.com/BKy6emUH
#601 [07:02] <IceQubed> Probably the same as the other one
#602 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking a security software or firewall is blocking java/minecraft from communicating
#603 [07:02] <DarkNoddy> tried deleting the launcher and re-downloading it?
#604 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> (Also, your system date and time is correct, right?)
#605 [07:03] <IceQubed> Yes I have
#606 [07:03] <IceQubed> Yes
#607 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, I'm thinking a connection problem
#608 [07:03] <IceQubed> I am running eset smart security (FTW)
#609 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Try allowing java through as a test
#610 [07:03] <IceQubed> I'll see if I can create some sorta whitelist
#611 [07:04] * GreyVulpine is running the same.. and eset can be set to uber-paranoid if the user wishes.
#611 [07:05] <IceQubed> erk, I can't seem to remember how...
#612 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Pull up the eset control panel, go to Setup -> personal firewall
#613 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Then Configure rules and zones
#614 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Look for java, and set it to "allow" through the zones
#615 [07:08] <IceQubed> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17307060254-orig.jpg ehh?
#616 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/4BZMI.png
#617 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#619 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> Basically, just allow java through Internet In and Internet out
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#621 [07:13] <IceQubed> Erk, I allowed it but still failing the login
#622 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you do an nslookup login.minecraft.net through the command prompt, make sure the ip address there is valid?
#623 [07:16] <IceQubed> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17307135557-orig.jpg
#624 [07:16] <IceQubed> That there may be the problem
#625 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> That.. may be
#626 [07:16] <IceQubed> :p
#627 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Try an ipconfig /flushdns ?
#628 [07:17] <IceQubed> I don''t know why it can't specifically fetch that dn!
#629 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> else if that doesn't work, look for a new DNS solution?
#630 [07:18] <IceQubed> I've flushed the cache
#631 [07:18] <IceQubed> Still nope
#632 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to set your DNS?
#633 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Possibly try 8.8.8.8?
#634 [07:19] <IceQubed> No idea on how to set that
#635 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> What router do you have?
#636 [07:20] <DarkNoddy> based on this: http://pastebin.com/BKy6emUH I would say your launcher is not working properly
#637 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> It's his DNS, it's not reaching the login server correctly
#638 [07:20] <IceQubed> I've got a good old WRT54G
#639 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Great, that'll work. Log into it, the setup page should have DNS entries
#640 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> .. that you can input
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#642 [07:21] <IceQubed> Static DNS 1?
#643 [07:22] <IceQubed> Will this muck up the rest of my internet? :s
#644 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#645 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> 8.8.8.8 is google's DNS
#646 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> You can google it for yourself if you wish
#647 [07:22] <IceQubed> ok
#648 [07:25] <IceQubed> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17307224452-orig.jpg
#649 [07:25] <IceQubed> Like so?
#650 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Right
#651 [07:26] <IceQubed> This might even speed up my internet, lol
#652 [07:26] <IceQubed> Shall I do another flushdns?
#653 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft now
#654 [07:28] <IceQubed> nope :(
#655 [07:28] <IceQubed> This is so weird
#656 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> try a /flushdns
#657 [07:29] <IceQubed> RAEG.png
#658 [07:30] <IceQubed> Still nothing
#659 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#660 [07:32] <IceQubed> I wonder if disabling my MC port forwarding will do anything...
#661 [07:32] <IceQubed> It shouldn't, but it's worth a try
#662 [07:33] <IceQubed> (I don't actually run a MC server from this PC)
#663 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> How are you connected for your computer, wired?
#664 [07:33] <IceQubed> wireless
#665 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you possibly try wired?
#666 [07:34] <IceQubed> That's why I'm using a wireless router, lol
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#668 [07:34] <IceQubed> Sorry, no access to it ATM
#669 [07:34] <IceQubed> I'm on a desktop, can't really move it over there
#670 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Is there any way you could as a test?
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#672 [07:36] <IceQubed> No, it's upstairs
#673 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> Drats, hmm.
#674 [07:37] <mib_xxw1ab> hi im on minecraft launcher it says to: undate the video card drivers. can u help?
#675 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_xxw1ab - Do you know what video card you have?
#676 [07:37] <mib_xxw1ab> no i dont how can i find out?
#677 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_xxw1ab win/dxdiag
#678 [07:38] <VoxelHead> mib_xxw1ab: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#679 [07:38] <VoxelHead> mib_xxw1ab: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#680 [07:38] <IceQubed> control panel -> device manager
#681 [07:38] <DarkNoddy> IceQubed: what do you get if you ping minecraft.net and ping login.minecraf.net ?
#682 [07:38] <DarkNoddy> the IP I mean
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#684 [07:39] <IceQubed> login.minecraft.net IP is 50.17.234.159 apparently
#685 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> It is
#686 [07:40] <IceQubed> Both pings work
#687 [07:40] <DarkNoddy> and minecraft.net resolved to 50.16.203.217?
#688 [07:40] <IceQubed> minecraft.net's IP is apparently 50.16.203.217
#689 [07:40] <IceQubed> mhm
#690 [07:40] <DarkNoddy> ok.
#691 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> I still believe it's a connection problem
#692 [07:41] <DarkNoddy> seems nslookup doesn't care about host file, ping does, so yea.
#693 [07:41] <IceQubed> Time to go shout at Mollstam
#694 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Mollstam can't really help you there
#695 [07:41] <mib_xxw1ab> i got this link. http://pastebin.com/9ucMhKnh
#696 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_xxw1ab - You're running a Radeon X1650 SE on Windows Vista™ Home Premium
#697 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Please go to:
#698 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> gpu/amd
#699 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_xxw1ab gpu/amd
#700 [07:42] <VoxelHead> mib_xxw1ab: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#701 [07:43] <mib_xxw1ab> is it hardware?
#702 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> You're looking for a software download, it's free
#703 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Just head to "Download drivers"
#704 [07:43] <mib_xxw1ab> ok ill give it a go (im impressed with the help u guys have offered) :)
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#706 [07:44] <mib_xxw1ab> do u know witch download on this page is best?
#707 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#708 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you're running 32 or 64 bit vista?
#709 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> (start -> right click on Computer -> properties -> System Type)
#710 [07:45] <mib_xxw1ab> 32 bit
#711 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll want this page:
#712 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
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#714 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Download link's at the bottom of the page, go for the full software suite
#715 [07:46] <IceQubed> Any ideas for my issue? It seems really odd.
#716 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - If we've eliminated minecraft by deleting all the files and freshly downloading minecraft files, as well as completely reinstalling java, it's not that. It's also not your firewall because you've set java to pass through it. You're using a different DNS server...
#717 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking it may be a connection problem, how's your wireless signal strength?
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#719 [07:50] <IceQubed> Wireless is fine, everything is great
#720 [07:50] <IceQubed> I can play other games
#721 [07:50] <IceQubed> And obviously use the internet
#722 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> I would guess that your answer to this question is no, but I need to ask anyways, does your windows username have a ! mark in it?
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#724 [07:52] <IceQubed> no
#725 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#726 [07:52] <IceQubed> I'm off for a quick bite, but will be idling and will be back to see if you guys have any more ideas :)
#727 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Sure, lemme just think about it for a few
#728 [07:53] <AFKIceQubed> Halloumi cheese nom
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#730 [07:54] <blodyliqadator> when i try to log in it says"user not premium" what can i do about this?
#731 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for an account?
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#733 [07:55] <blodyliqadator> yes
#734 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> When did you pay?
#735 [07:55] <blodyliqadator> a while ago dont know exactly
#736 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> few minutes? few hours? a number of days?
#737 [07:56] <blodyliqadator> number of weeks/mnths
#738 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Then, make sure you're using the right user account. Try recovering your password through: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#739 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Fill in all the email addresses you normally use
#740 [07:56] <blodyliqadator> ok thx i try that
#741 [07:58] <blodyliqadator> doesnt work:(
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#743 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> blodyliqadator - Did you fill in all the email addresses you've used?
#744 [07:59] <blodyliqadator> yes
#745 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Check all of them for password recovery emails. Perhaps you've used another account
#746 [07:59] <blodyliqadator> i changed my password buht still same message
#747 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> The "user not premium" message means that the current account, is not paid for
#748 [08:00] <blodyliqadator> im surten i used this one
#749 [08:00] <blodyliqadator> :S buht i already bought the game, i bouht it when it was just in beta
#750 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has gotten tons of emails like this one, and the solution was that they used the wrong account, and had to find out their account that was credited
#751 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Are you absolutely certain it's the right account?
#752 [08:01] <blodyliqadator> yes
#753 [08:01] <blodyliqadator> i checkt it
#754 [08:02] <blodyliqadator> i only have 1 acount so
#755 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Then, all you can do is go to: http://www.minecraft.net/support/ -- use Account -> premium
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#757 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Send Mojang an email with your payment details and a description of your problem with that interface
#758 [08:05] <mib_xxw1ab> hi. ive just tried to do that download for the video driver. ive got it in downloads on my disk drive but when i click it it lags loads then its says not responding
#759 [08:05] <blodyliqadator> ok
#760 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_xxw1ab - Did you wait for the download to finish?
#761 [08:06] <mib_xxw1ab> it didnt start :)
#762 [08:06] <mib_xxw1ab> also now ive got no desktop items or start bar witch is unhelpfull lol
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#764 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_xxw1ab - Hmm, try closing explorer.exe in your task manager's processes list, and restart it via the task manager's File -> run command
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#766 [08:09] <mib_z6rk4q> hi video driver guy..
#767 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, welcome back
#768 [08:09] <mib_z6rk4q> thanks still no start bar unfortunatly
#769 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try restarting your computer then
#770 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Those are good drivers, from ati/amd's official site
#771 [08:10] <mib_z6rk4q> ok ill also try the driver wen its booted up too
#772 [08:10] <mib_z6rk4q> brb or if it works then thanks alot for you help
#773 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#774 [08:12] <blodyliqadator> i have a stupid question, where can i find mail adress of mojang:S cant find it, did find my effidence that i bought the game
#775 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Just use the interface at http://www.minecraft.net/support
#776 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Check the boxes indicated you looked at and followed the directions for account -> premium
#777 [08:14] <blodyliqadator> buht i dont geht a mail adress or something from there?
#778 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> No, they have a form you can fill out there
#779 [08:16] <blodyliqadator> i cant find it:S dont know what im doing wrong:S
#780 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#781 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Hit up Account -> premium -> "I bought a premium account, but my account is still regular"
#782 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Check all the boxes there, and hit "I need further support"
#783 [08:17] <blodyliqadator> i did that
#784 [08:17] <blodyliqadator> ok
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#788 [08:21] <mib_bamt2p> can someone help me?
#789 [08:21] <mib_bamt2p> i just bought minecraft, but the game wont run
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#791 [08:25] <IceQubed> Hey
#792 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - Could you do me a favor and do nslookup login.minecraft.net again?
#793 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> screenshot that result again
#794 [08:27] <IceQubed> ok
#795 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> I think the answer was staring me in the face
#796 [08:28] <IceQubed> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17308261315-orig.jpg
#797 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Well then, never mind...
#798 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Hrm..
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#800 [08:33] <jasper> hello video driver guy again minecraft still sayin bad video drivers :( could it bo anything to do with flash or adobe
#801 [08:33] <IceQubed> I don't know what to do
#802 [08:33] <IceQubed> Nope, they don't have anything to do with java
#803 [08:33] <jasper> ok
#804 [08:33] <jasper> any ideas
#805 [08:33] <IceQubed> You installed the latest drivers right?
#806 [08:33] <IceQubed> And restarted?
#807 [08:33] <jasper> ye
#808 [08:34] <IceQubed> What is your card called again?
#809 [08:34] <jasper> ati lagacy 1
#810 [08:34] <IceQubed> It might not be powerful enough, but that error message doesn't seem to say that.
#811 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> mib_xxw1ab - You're running a Radeon X1650 SE on Windows Vista™ Home Premium
#812 [08:35] <IceQubed> Uhh that's not a card...
#813 [08:35] <IceQubed> Ah that one
#814 [08:35] <jasper> this is wat it says
#815 [08:35] <IceQubed> Ok
#816 [08:35] <jasper> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 23/06/11 13:31 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0
#817 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - Have you done a full complete uninstall and reinstall of java?
#818 [08:36] <IceQubed> Looks like your card doesn't support openGL
#819 [08:37] <IceQubed> AHH splitting.
#820 [08:37] <jasper> should i?
#821 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Oi
#822 [08:37] <IceQubed> No, I haven't
#823 [08:37] <IceQubed> I will do now.
#824 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> jasper - No, I'm pretty sure it's still a video driver issue
#825 [08:37] <IceQubed> But that doesn't seem to be the issue?
#826 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you complete the driver installation jasper?
#827 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - It'll eliminate it as a cause
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#906 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> It should be
#907 [08:38] <IceQubed> I recently updated it though, but I may as well to a reinstall
#908 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft only requires openGL 1.3
#909 [08:39] <jasper> do u wanna hack in to my computer? see wat u can do?
#910 [08:39] <DarkNoddy> IceQubed: you could try logging in here: http://www.valvik.org/darknoddy/mctest.html (basically the same as the launcher, only in your browser). Not sure if it will tell us anything but worth a shot. Look trough the html etc to verify I'm not trying to steal your login etc.
#911 [08:39] <IceQubed> I've gotta go now cause mibbit requires java, I will be back soon when reinstalled.
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#913 [08:40] <mib_pkik7j> I need help
#914 [08:40] <IceQubed> It's given me some sorta string
#915 [08:40] <jasper> anything else i should try?
#916 [08:40] <mib_pkik7j> minecraft.exe wont open
#917 [08:40] <IceQubed> @greyvulpine 1306845669000:817cd37e52787562f9748b3d62e3ed87:IceQubed:-2563943035033731970
#918 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#919 [08:41] <DarkNoddy> IceQubed: then you can connect to the login server, and log in :o so then it's the minecraft client / java that is the problem
#920 [08:41] <IceQubed> oh was talking to dark
#921 [08:41] <DarkNoddy> not sure if you should've posted that string though :o
#922 [08:41] <DarkNoddy> oh well
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#924 [08:42] <Keith> i need help please
#925 [08:42] <IceQubed> dm, I'm sure it's useless.
#926 [08:42] <DarkNoddy> you are sure your firewall is set up properly?
#927 [08:42] <IceQubed> Yeah
#928 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> Keith - Only if you tell us more about your porblem, and don't leave right away
#929 [08:42] <Keith> IceQubed: minecraft.exe won't open
#930 [08:42] <IceQubed> brb uninstalling java
#931 [08:42] <DarkNoddy> kk
#932 [08:43] <Keith> GreyVulpine" minecraft.exe won't open
#933 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Keith - How much RAM is on your system?
#934 [08:43] <Keith> 2 GBS
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#968 [08:43] <Keith> Fail
#969 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Man esper is fail today
#970 [08:44] <Keith> Grey: 2 GBS
#971 [08:44] <jasper> grey u got any ideas for my problem boss?
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#1059 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Good god.
#1060 [08:45] <Keith> GreyVulpine: 2 GBS of Ram on my PC
#1061 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Keith - Java is installed?
#1062 [08:46] <Keith> i just reinstalling
#1063 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1064 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> You're reinstalling now?
#1065 [08:46] <jasper> grey any ideas for my prob mate?
#1066 [08:47] <Keith> reinstalling java
#1067 [08:47] <Keith> java had a problem to
#1068 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Did your driver installation finish?
#1069 [08:48] <jasper> yes and rebooted my coputer too
#1070 [08:48] <Keith> Grey
#1071 [08:48] <Keith> it was java
#1072 [08:48] <Keith> Java was the problem
#1073 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> Keith - Ah, okay then
#1074 [08:48] <Keith> soon as i reinstalled now it works
#1075 [08:48] <jasper> will that work for mine? lol
#1076 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Nope, it's still a video driver issue for you
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#1078 [08:49] <jasper> ok jus tell me wat to do
#1079 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Try these instructions..
#1080 [08:49] <IceQubed> IT FREAKING WORKED!
#1081 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1082 [08:49] <IceQubed> ahahaha
#1083 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> IceQubed - Huh, what?
#1084 [08:49] <IceQubed> Thanks guys
#1085 [08:49] <IceQubed> Reinstalling java
#1086 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Hah, well then
#1087 [08:50] <IceQubed> I recently updated
#1088 [08:50] <IceQubed> But I guess it needed a full reinstall
#1089 [08:50] <IceQubed> revo uninstaller FTW
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#1091 [08:52] <Tobias> Hi guys
#1092 [08:52] <Tobias> I Have a question
#1093 [08:53] <jasper> i dont think that did anythingg
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#1096 [08:53] <Tobias> When I start minecraft in my browser (minecraft classic) my screen stays black..
#1097 [08:54] <Keith> update and/or reinstall java
#1098 [08:54] <Tobias> this is also when i run the game normally
#1099 [08:54] <Keith> same problem happended to me
#1100 [08:54] <Tobias> i have updat 26
#1101 [08:54] <Keith> reinstall
#1102 [08:54] <Keith> same problem happended to me
#1103 [08:54] <Tobias> the newest update
#1104 [08:54] <Tobias> ok
#1105 [08:54] <Keith> soon as i reinstalled it worked for me
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#1107 [08:55] <Tobias> what if it dont works?
#1108 [08:55] <jasper> pastbin thing didnt work
#1109 [08:55] <Keith> tobias... uninstall from Control Panel
#1110 [08:56] <Keith> then download from java.com or something
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#1112 [08:56] <Tobias> ok i will try that now:)
#1113 [08:56] <therock185> hilfe
#1114 [08:56] <Guest96481> I have a question. I've been trying to play the free browser version of minecraft. But, it freeze every view seconds. How can I fix this?
#1115 [08:57] <jasper> grey i realy wanna play minecraft got any more ideas i go to work soon
#1116 [08:57] <mib_cqv5um> игра не загружаеться что делать
#1117 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Try a full uninstall of your drivers through the control panel, and reinstall them using the drivers from the website
#1118 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> jasper - You'll be looking for ati drivers
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#1120 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Note: your screen resolution will bug out while you do this
#1121 [08:58] <jasper> can u talk me thru the uninstall
#1122 [08:58] <jasper> please :)
#1123 [08:58] <therock185> is it bad if I login from different computers?
#1124 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Just as simple as going to Start -> Control panel -> "Uninstall a program" and looking for ATI drivers in there
#1125 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> therock185 - Nope, nothing wrong with that
#1126 [08:59] <jasper> ok
#1127 [08:59] <jasper> just ati ye
#1128 [09:00] <therock185> dan because I always get a warning
#1129 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> ati or ati catalyst control center, or something with ATI in it
#1130 [09:01] <jasper> witch ati do i download again please
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#1132 [09:06] <jasper> im reinstallin ati now. could the problem be flash?
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#1134 [09:08] <jasper> u there grey?
#1135 [09:09] <jasper> brb
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#1140 [09:19] <Tobias> Hi guys
#1141 [09:19] <Tobias> i get a black screen after loading screen, and cant play in browset
#1142 [09:20] <Tobias> i've installed JAVA again
#1143 [09:20] <Tobias> and still black
#1144 [09:21] <GRedWolf> I dunno, as I just downloaded it a few moments ago, but that gives me an idea on how to possibly fix my problem...
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#1146 [09:22] <mib_0d4lu3> hey i'm haveing trouble installing minecraft after the download
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#1148 [09:31] <oldtopmanserver> Tobias: Try the downloaded one
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#1150 [09:32] <zeyad_001> hello
#1151 [09:33] <zeyad_001> why is minecraft forums offline?
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#1155 [09:36] <DarkNoddy> you mean http://www.minecraftforum.net/ ? On which it says "Site Maintenance"?
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#1157 [09:38] <Undoubtedly> o/
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#1160 [09:52] <Gearjammer> anyone able to tell me how to get rid of this annoying lag I am getting since the last patch? The game is unplayable now. I have reinstalled etc and am running vanilla game
#1161 [09:54] <DarkNoddy> Tried turning off/on the different graphics settings? Does it "lag" on singleplayer?
#1162 [09:55] <Gearjammer> have the game currently set to the nearest fog, fast etc. The game worked almost flawlessly prior to the update and yes, on single player
#1163 [09:56] <DarkNoddy> and you've disabled dynamic lights and advanced opengl? In my experience for only makes it worse :P
#1164 [09:57] <Gearjammer> system is AMD II X3 435, 4 gig ram, ATI HD 5750, Win7 64bit. I have tried the game with just about all settings set to allow for smoother running though I have not changed from dynamic lighting
#1165 [09:59] <Gearjammer> prior to update I have been able to run the game with everything maxed and using 64 X 64 textures
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#1168 [10:02] <Zali> hi all
#1169 [10:02] <Gearjammer> morning
#1170 [10:02] <Zali> can someone help me about a plugin? I stuck :S
#1171 [10:03] <Gearjammer> go to #risucraft for mods
#1172 [10:03] <Zali> ok thx
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#1174 [10:04] <Gearjammer> no other suggestions Dark?
#1175 [10:07] <DarkNoddy> hmm
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#1177 [10:07] <DarkNoddy> you could hit f3 to get the debug screen up and see if that tells you anything
#1178 [10:08] <DarkNoddy> is the "heart rate thingy" red?
#1179 [10:08] <Gearjammer> looked at it already, running at about 28% of my ram and the rest looks normal as well. Obviously when I get the lag I see massive spikes
#1180 [10:08] <Gearjammer> top is red, the lower is usually white with spikes that are some times red
#1181 [10:09] <Undoubtedly> Gearjammer: is that memory graph for your system as a whole, or specifically for MC?
#1182 [10:09] <Gearjammer> at times game won't respond for several seconds
#1183 [10:09] <DarkNoddy> not entierly sure what that thing monitors but I always thought it was the CPU
#1184 [10:09] <Undoubtedly> Gearjammer: nvm stupid question /reads log
#1185 [10:11] <Gearjammer> is there a way to get the old 1.5 .jar file again? I deleted mine as it was running ok, but now would like to have it back to test hehe
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#1187 [10:16] <Gearjammer> well, guess I will keep looking on the web to see if I can find anything out then
#1188 [10:16] <Gearjammer> thanks for trying Dark
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#1193 [10:19] <MarshmallowSlayer> hey, i have a radeon xpress 1100 graphics card. should that be able to run minecraft?
#1194 [10:19] <B00TA> Hi guys
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#1196 [10:20] <B00TA> Im having trouble getting started here...
#1197 [10:21] <B00TA> is anyone here?
#1198 [10:22] <B00TA> hello?
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#1200 [10:22] <B00TA> hello
#1201 [10:24] <B00TA> seriously no one here?
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#1204 [10:26] <B00TA> *waiting patiently*
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#1206 [10:28] <Undoubtedly> B00TA: what's up bud
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#1208 [10:28] <B00TA> hey
#1209 [10:28] <B00TA> im kinda having difficulty getting minecraft started
#1210 [10:28] <Undoubtedly> B00TA: what's your problem
#1211 [10:29] <B00TA> i have purchased the game and waited over an hour and im still not getting the "homepage" i guess is what you would call it
#1212 [10:29] <B00TA> i tried downloading the exe file and running that also
#1213 [10:29] <B00TA> however it does not start up
#1214 [10:30] <B00TA> any ideas?
#1215 [10:30] <self_slaughter> do you have java installed?
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#1217 [10:30] <Morrolan> B00TA: Did you try to play it in the browser already?
#1218 [10:30] <B00TA> i believe i am also having problems with java...
#1219 [10:31] <B00TA> yes but it only comes up with "Minecraft Beta"
#1220 [10:31] <B00TA> no window
#1221 [10:31] <Morrolan> B00TA: Remvove any installation of Java on your PC and redownload and install the newest one I'd say.
#1222 [10:32] <B00TA> right i shall try that
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#1225 [10:32] <B00TA> any tips on how i might do that the fastest way?
#1226 [10:32] <B00TA> i guess just looking into my control system?
#1227 [10:33] <self_slaughter> http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#1228 [10:33] <B00TA> im not particularly well versed in computers yet...
#1229 [10:33] <B00TA> (as you might be able to tell haha)
#1230 [10:33] <B00TA> ill give it a shot
#1231 [10:34] <lmkl73> does anyone know how i can contact support or something directly? I purchased the game the other day and still havent recieved an email and my account has not been updated and still says i don't own the game
#1232 [10:35] <B00TA> ill stay on until i've given it a try - thanks for your help
#1233 [10:35] <Morrolan> lmkl73: www.minecraft.net/support -> account -> premium -> I bought the game but...
#1234 [10:35] <Morrolan> lmkl73: Then, fill out that formular and submit it.
#1235 [10:36] <Morrolan> B00TA: Control panel -> Applications (or however it's called), -> Add/remove installations. Then look for something like "Java (TM)" in the list, and remove all the entries you find.
#1236 [10:37] <Morrolan> B00TA: AFTER you removed all the current Java installations you may download and install it from the site self_slaughter gave you.
#1237 [10:37] <B00TA> Morrolan: doing just that ^^ thanks
#1238 [10:37] <Morrolan> ok :)
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#1240 [10:37] <komi> hi
#1241 [10:38] <B00TA> Morrolan: hope it works *fingers crossed*
#1242 [10:38] <komi> who can help me?
#1243 [10:38] <komi> i can run the game "java virtula machine" error
#1244 [10:38] <Undoubtedly> ??> komi error
#1245 [10:38] <VoxelHead> komi: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#1246 [10:38] <VoxelHead> komi: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1247 [10:39] <komi> i saying ist java virtual machine error
#1248 [10:40] <komi> i can run the game
#1249 [10:40] <komi> cant*
#1250 [10:41] <B00TA> Morrolan: ok - deleted all "Java (TM)" items in my Add/Remove window - shall now try to re-download java from said site
#1251 [10:41] <Morrolan> B00TA: Yep, download and install it. Then I suggset you reboot your PC, just to make sure that it's installed properly, and try your luck with Minecraft again.
#1252 [10:41] <komi> i do it and still dont working
#1253 [10:42] <Morrolan> komi: Windows?
#1254 [10:42] <komi> xp
#1255 [10:42] <komi> windows xp
#1256 [10:43] <Undoubtedly> ??> komi win/reinst
#1257 [10:43] <B00TA> Morrolan: currently reinstalling Java
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#1259 [10:43] <VoxelHead> komi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1260 [10:43] <VoxelHead> komi: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1262 [10:44] <wtfguys> i cant use the commands on my own server
#1263 [10:44] <wtfguys> i just set it up
#1264 [10:44] <B00TA> ok i shall reboot and see if it works this time
#1265 [10:44] <Morrolan> wtfguys: Did you make yourself OP?
#1266 [10:44] <Morrolan> B00TA: Wish you luck
#1267 [10:44] <B00TA> thanks for your kind advice - should i still have problems i shall return :)
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#1269 [10:45] <Morrolan> Sure thing, B00TA :)
#1270 [10:45] <wtfguys> yes i think i did
#1271 [10:45] <wtfguys> slash op and my name
#1272 [10:45] <Morrolan> wtfguys: Where do you enter the commands, and what does it say when you try to use them?
#1273 [10:45] <wtfguys> in minecraft chat
#1274 [10:45] <Morrolan> wtfguys: Without the slash if you typed it into the console
#1275 [10:45] <Morrolan> wtfguys: You need to make yourself op through the console first.
#1276 [10:45] <wtfguys> ohhhh
#1277 [10:46] <Morrolan> ??> wtfguys smp/opyourself
#1278 [10:46] <VoxelHead> wtfguys: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#1279 [10:46] <wtfguys> nd then i can use minecraft chat?
#1280 [10:46] <VoxelHead> wtfguys: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#1281 [10:46] <Morrolan> wtfguys: Exactly
#1282 [10:46] <wtfguys> ohh ok
#1283 [10:46] <wtfguys> thx so much guys
#1284 [10:46] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
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#1287 [10:49] <komi> still dont working, i reinstal java and still dont working
#1288 [10:50] <Morrolan> komi: We didn't tell you to reinstall Java I think, this was another guy.
#1289 [10:50] <Morrolan> ??> komi win/dxdiag
#1290 [10:50] <VoxelHead> komi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1291 [10:50] <VoxelHead> komi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1292 [10:50] <Morrolan> Follow these instructions please, komi
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#1294 [10:51] <Uglob> When I run minecraft through the in broswer section, it downloads and then goes to a white screen. Can anyone help me?
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#1296 [10:53] <Morrolan> I guess not then.
#1297 [10:53] <Morrolan> oh, hey B00TA. I assume it didn't work then?
#1298 [10:54] <B00TA> No i just wanted to say thanks again
#1299 [10:54] <B00TA> looks like it might work this time round :)
#1300 [10:54] <self_slaughter> congrats then :P u fixed it hehehe
#1301 [10:54] <B00TA> thanks to you guys...
#1302 [10:54] <B00TA> now i would like to download it
#1303 [10:54] <Morrolan> B00TA: Heh, you're welcome. :)
#1304 [10:54] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#1305 [10:54] <B00TA> should that also be easy?
#1306 [10:55] <B00TA> i have already downloaded it a few times but my java was not working properly
#1307 [10:55] <self_slaughter> if you've played it from the web site its already downloaded... the exe is just another way to launch it
#1308 [10:55] <B00TA> now it is - should things be fine now?
#1309 [10:55] <B00TA> ah so i can also play it offline now?
#1310 [10:55] <Morrolan> You have to download the launcher though
#1311 [10:55] <self_slaughter> with the exe yeah
#1312 [10:55] <Morrolan> !client
#1313 [10:55] <Morrolan> Then you can play it offline as well.
#1314 [10:56] <B00TA> ah great so i download the windows exe - run that and it should work offline as well
#1315 [10:56] <B00TA> great
#1316 [10:56] <Morrolan> Yep. :)
#1317 [10:57] <self_slaughter> word of advice, stay away from redstone... it's addictive as hell :P
#1318 [10:58] <B00TA> whats redstone?
#1319 [10:58] <Undoubtedly> hahaha
#1320 [10:58] <m0nk> red.. stone..
#1321 [10:58] <Undoubtedly> nice one pandora
#1322 [10:58] <self_slaughter> its an ore you can find in minecraft... its basically like copper wire... u can use it like a virtual electronics kit
#1323 [10:58] <Undoubtedly> minecrafts is magic
#1324 [10:59] <B00TA> ah...ok
#1325 [11:00] <B00TA> say my screen is rather jerky kann i change that
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#1327 [11:00] <Undoubtedly> B00TA: lower your video settings
#1328 [11:01] <komi> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 6/23/2011, 16:52:31 Machine name: KUBA Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Dodatek Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: Polish (Regional Setting: Polish) System Manufacturer: GBT___ System Model: GBTUACPI
#1329 [11:01] <bernard> can anyone tell me the steps for installation after minecraft emailed you the digital copy
#1330 [11:01] <B00TA> like from fancy to fast?
#1331 [11:01] <self_slaughter> minecraft is severly unoptimised at times :( even on my rig in some levels it drops below 60 fps :(
#1332 [11:02] <self_slaughter> the render distance setting helps a lot on slower machines
#1333 [11:02] <Undoubtedly> B00TA: yes try setting your render distance from "far" to "normal"
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#1335 [11:02] <bernard> can anyone answer my question plz
#1336 [11:03] <komi> where i must the dxdial copy?
#1337 [11:03] <self_slaughter> hmm i just noticed advanced opengl actually hurts my frame rate more then it helps
#1338 [11:04] <self_slaughter> where i'm standing now i get 270fps with it off, and only 70fps with it on lol
#1339 [11:04] <bernard> hhow do you become a idler
#1340 [11:05] <titegtnodI> bernard: Login to IRC, walk away from the computer, never come back, you will eternally idle
#1341 [11:05] <titegtnodI> unless your power goes out
#1342 [11:05] <self_slaughter> what do you mean bernard? u just play it from the website and it downloads... download the exe or the exectuatable jar if you want to play it offline
#1343 [11:06] <bernard> do you have to pay for the premium membership or you get the membership after you buy the game
#1344 [11:07] <self_slaughter> yeah premium just means you have bought the game
#1345 [11:07] <bernard> k
#1346 [11:07] <self_slaughter> ahhh i better get some sleep... time to let prime95 run overnight and see how it goes
#1347 [11:07] <bernard> you have to wait until minecraft sends you an email to confirm and then you can play
#1348 [11:08] <bernard> rte
#1349 [11:08] <bernard> *rite (right
#1350 [11:08] <self_slaughter> i could play straight away when i bought it.... money didn't even come out of my account until like a week later
#1351 [11:08] <B00TA> lol i just drowned... jsuch a noobasaurus
#1352 [11:08] <self_slaughter> probably depends on what payment method you use though
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#1354 [11:08] <bernard> I used American
#1355 [11:09] <bernard> wat did you use
#1356 [11:09] <self_slaughter> paypal i think
#1357 [11:10] <bernard> well now i'm waiting for minecraft to send me a confirmation email
#1358 [11:11] <bernard> may take 5 days or so
#1359 [11:11] <self_slaughter> ouch :(
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#1361 [11:11] <bernard> self_slaughter when did you buy minecraft anyway
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#1363 [11:12] <bernard> when it was popular or not
#1364 [11:12] <self_slaughter> only about 3 months or so ago i guess
#1365 [11:13] <mib_w7x8vl> Do I just ask my question
#1366 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1367 [11:13] <bernard> yeah
#1368 [11:13] <lansiir> Yes
#1369 [11:13] <bernard> who are bots
#1370 [11:13] <bernard> rite now
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#1372 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, AuBot, GreyVulpine, and probably one or two others
#1373 [11:14] <Morrolan> bernard: VoxelHead, AuBot, GreyBot
#1374 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> er, greybot
#1375 [11:14] <Morrolan> McPlusPlus,
#1376 [11:14] <self_slaughter> kinda wish i had of heard of it during the alpha when you were guaranteed all updates without payment :(
#1377 [11:14] <bernard> you bought alpha
#1378 [11:14] <Morrolan> self_slaughter: Well, you'll get the full version for free even if you bought beta.
#1379 [11:14] * self_slaughter hates dlc
#1379 [11:14] <mib_w7x8vl> After I log in the browser screen goes black and nothing can be done
#1380 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> No, you were guaranteed potential future expansions beyond final..
#1381 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> That's it
#1382 [11:14] <Morrolan> self_slaughter: You just won't get any addons or similar for free.
#1383 [11:14] <self_slaughter> yeah i know... i just hate dlc :P
#1384 [11:15] <Morrolan> mib_w7x8vl: Windows?
#1385 [11:15] <mib_w7x8vl> yes
#1386 [11:15] <Morrolan> ??> mib_w7x8vl win/reinst
#1387 [11:15] <VoxelHead> mib_w7x8vl: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1388 [11:15] <VoxelHead> mib_w7x8vl: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1389 [11:15] <Morrolan> Follow these instructions please, mib_w7x8vl
#1390 [11:15] <bernard> your abot voxelhead go away
#1391 [11:15] <mib_w7x8vl> k thanks
#1392 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Those are channel-approved bots, they won't go away.
#1393 [11:15] <Morrolan> bernard: He saves us a lot of typing, so he surely has to stay. :D
#1394 [11:16] <lansiir> ^
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#1396 [11:16] <B00TA> ok guys looks like i am on my way to finding out about minecraft
#1397 [11:16] <B00TA> thanks again for your help
#1398 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#1399 [11:16] <B00TA> speak to you soon if needs be
#1400 [11:16] <B00TA> cheers
#1401 [11:17] <bernard> did anybody have to wait after purchasing minecraft
#1402 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Many people do/did
#1403 [11:17] <bernard> toplay
#1404 [11:17] <bernard> when do you think the connfirmation email would come I just took a guess of 5 days
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#1406 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> What did you pay with?
#1407 [11:18] <bernard> American Express
#1408 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> When did you pay?
#1409 [11:18] <bernard> yesterday
#1410 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> What's your minecraft username?
#1411 [11:18] <bernard> johnng417
#1412 [11:19] <bernard> why did you ask
#1413 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> And you're sure your card has been charged?
#1414 [11:19] <bernard> yes
#1415 [11:19] <bernard> there was a page saying thank you for my purchase
#1416 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> But did you check your card's balance?
#1417 [11:19] <bernard> no
#1418 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you check it, either by calling the card's member services, or through an online account.
#1419 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Make sure money's been taken out for the transaction
#1420 [11:20] <bernard> my mastercard failed and I got banned for 24 hours after the 24 hour ban I used American and I purchased minecraft
#1421 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> If it's been a day already, and you still aren't premium, I'd start looking as to why
#1422 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Did your card decline or not approve the transaction? Did the transaction go through?
#1423 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> If it didn't pop up as a charge on you card already after a day, I'd start calling
#1424 [11:22] <bernard> yes after I did everything the page said thank you for your purchase
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#1426 [11:22] <bernard> I'm pretty sure I purchased it
#1427 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> We've seen instances that can prove otherwise
#1428 [11:23] <bernard> like what
#1429 [11:23] <bernard> ?
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#1431 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> There's been more than a few cases where people got an error page, then a success page right after, but the transaction never made it through
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#1434 [11:24] <bernard> first when I typed it in I was still in my ban 24 hours then aminute later there was that thankyou page
#1435 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> I'd look directly at your card, see if it was charged.
#1436 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Don't depend on just a success page from a website.
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#1438 [11:26] <bernard> how do I look at the card and find out if it was charged or not
#1439 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Is it your card?
#1440 [11:26] <bernard> no its my dad's
#1441 [11:26] <bernard> this was my present
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#1443 [11:26] <bernard> I'm twleve
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#1445 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Then have your dad call cardmember's services, usually the number will be on the back of the card
#1446 [11:26] <SchorschTM> My Minecraft installer dosn't work ?!
#1447 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Could you elaborate?
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#1449 [11:28] <SchorschTM> When i start the installer does nothing...
#1450 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#1451 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> How are you starting it?
#1452 [11:29] <SchorschTM> Windows.
#1453 [11:29] <SchorschTM> 7
#1454 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to launch it at all? Does it give you any error messages? Does it say anything?
#1455 [11:29] <self_slaughter> have you played it in the browser before?
#1456 [11:29] <SchorschTM> No message. Nothing...
#1457 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to see the login page?
#1458 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Does the launcher actually run?
#1459 [11:30] <SchorschTM> My installer doesnt work.
#1460 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> So you downloaded minecraft.exe from minecraft.net, double-clicked on it.. and it doesn't do anything, right?
#1461 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Nothing pops up?
#1462 [11:31] <SchorschTM> Yes...
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#1464 [11:31] <bernard> my dad saw the thank you page and said it went through and doesn't want to check
#1465 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Then try uninstalling java through the control panel, and reinstalling it from http://www.java.com
#1466 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> bernard - I'll bet you 20 bucks it didn't go throguh
#1467 [11:32] <bernard> but how do I check
#1468 [11:32] <Morrolan> bernard: Your dad has to.
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#1472 [11:36] <self_slaughter> ok sleep time... time to let prime95 see just how stable this pc is
#1473 [11:36] <self_slaughter> night all
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#1478 [11:40] <XeroXone> hmm some1 pls help me? i dont know how to register in the offical chanel and i just dont understand how to O.o
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#1480 [11:40] <SchorschTM> Grey? I have installed the new java now but it doesnt work
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#1482 [11:41] <tomt610> anyone know maybe how to get rid of Fatal error occured (4): null error while trying to download minecraft for first time? nothing on google helped
#1483 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> XeroXone irc
#1484 [11:41] <VoxelHead> XeroXone: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1485 [11:41] <VoxelHead> XeroXone: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1486 [11:42] <Morrolan> XeroXone: "/msg nickserv help register" for help on how to register one.
#1487 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - What operating system are you on?
#1488 [11:42] <Morrolan> If you still have questions, join the channel VoxelHead gave you
#1489 [11:42] <tomt610> windows 7 x64 home premium
#1490 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Try going to %appdata% in your start menu's search bar
#1491 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, delete it and try minecraft again
#1492 [11:43] <tomt610> did it few times
#1493 [11:43] <tomt610> even with restart
#1494 [11:43] <tomt610> with both exe
#1495 [11:43] <tomt610> lol
#1496 [11:43] <XeroXone> k thx ppl
#1497 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> You went to %appdata%/.minecraft and deleted everything?
#1498 [11:43] <tomt610> yes
#1499 [11:43] <tomt610> i just deleted .minecraft
#1500 [11:43] <SchorschTM> My installer doesnt work ! I need help !
#1501 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Do this, and screenshot us what the results are: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1502 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Upload the screenshot to imgur.com and give us the URL once you do
#1503 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Are you running any sort of security software or firewall?
#1504 [11:45] <SchorschTM> But minecraft.jar is for mac ?
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#1506 [11:45] <tomt610> kaspersky internet security 2012
#1507 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Please follow the instructions anyways
#1508 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Could you check to see if java is allowed through it?
#1509 [11:46] <tomt610> i just paused protection and i see it still stops at this point
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#1511 [11:46] <tomt610> its maybe 1/10 of download bar
#1512 [11:47] <tomt610> and i only get md5s and version files in bin folder
#1513 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Yeah, that sounds like a security software issue.
#1514 [11:47] <tomt610> but its paused
#1515 [11:47] <Gehrett> Hello I am on Ubuntu Linux and want to know how to download minecraft
#1516 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Something's not letting java from downloading those files
#1517 [11:47] <tomt610> and windows firewall is off
#1518 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Gehrett -
#1519 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> !client
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#1521 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Are you absolutely sure the network aspect of kaspersky is also off?
#1522 [11:48] <Gehrett> i know i have that but how do i install sun java?
#1523 [11:48] <tomt610> whole program is off
#1524 [11:48] <xolotl> Gehrett: Maybe that's what you should have asked, then, eh? :)
#1525 [11:48] <tomt610> i mean paused
#1526 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Gehrett - then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#1527 [11:48] <Gehrett> huh?
#1528 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Gehrett - sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre is what you type into your terminal/console
#1529 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Could you try just making a firewall rule in kaspersky to allow java through?
#1530 [11:50] <Guest22377> hello i wonderd if there is any way to play minecraft without OpenGL i want to play it with like Direct X is that possible
#1531 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> I don't think I trust many AV suites that say they're down, but still have their protection module(s) loaded into memory still
#1532 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Guest22377 - Nope
#1533 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is coded in java.
#1534 [11:50] <Guest22377> ok thanks
#1535 [11:51] <xolotl> Why would anyone care if they're using OpenGL or DirectX? (assuming you're on a platform that'll run either)
#1536 [11:51] <xolotl> Triangles are triangles, yeah?
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#1538 [11:54] <reedlepee> omfggggggg
#1539 [11:54] <reedlepee> i just made a server
#1540 [11:54] <reedlepee> and i can join but others cant
#1541 [11:54] <reedlepee> help anyone?
#1542 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarded?
#1543 [11:55] <reedlepee> i did yes
#1544 [11:55] <reedlepee> ports open
#1545 [11:55] <Morrolan> reedlepee: Could you give us the ip?
#1546 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> And what address are you giving to others?
#1547 [11:55] <reedlepee> my external
#1548 [11:55] <reedlepee> 69.123.4.116
#1549 [11:55] <reedlepee> and i told them to try my reg one too
#1550 [11:55] <tomt610> so how is minecraft blocked from internet when it knows it needs to update?
#1551 [11:55] <Morrolan> !check 69.123.4.116
#1552 [11:55] <xolotl> reedlepee: Either your port forwarding isn't correct or your local box is firewalling it
#1553 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - That's a question you need to ask your security software
#1554 [11:56] <reedlepee> ok so i tested the port with umm PFportchecker
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#1556 [11:56] <reedlepee> nd it says its open
#1557 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Is the server running right now?
#1558 [11:57] <reedlepee> iam on it yes
#1559 [11:57] <reedlepee> 192.168.2.50
#1560 [11:57] <reedlepee> can u try that?
#1561 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you leave server-ip blank in server.properties?
#1562 [11:57] <xolotl> reedlepee: No, because that IP isn't valid on the internet
#1563 [11:57] <xolotl> reedlepee: Anything in 192.168.x.x isn't routable on the public internet
#1564 [11:57] <reedlepee> oh nd yes i did
#1565 [11:58] <reedlepee> its blank
#1566 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you walk us through how you port forwarded?
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#1568 [11:58] <reedlepee> well i made my ip static
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#1570 [11:59] <reedlepee> nd then i went to my router settings
#1571 [11:59] <reedlepee> and put the port
#1572 [11:59] <reedlepee> how odd
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#1574 [11:59] <tomt610> is http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar downloadable?
#1575 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Yes
#1576 [12:00] <tomt610> doesnt want to start download for me
#1577 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> That's.. strange
#1578 [12:00] <xolotl> hosts?
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#1580 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to minecraft.net?
#1581 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> via your browser?
#1582 [12:01] <tomt610> yes
#1583 [12:01] <tomt610> i see download page
#1584 [12:01] <tomt610> i can download exe and zip
#1585 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> The links work for me..
#1586 [12:01] <dizzledazzle> i have a problem..... my mac wont run the classic version!!!!
#1587 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Check kaspersky... see if there's any log entries in there
#1588 [12:01] <bezaban> just wget'ed it without problems
#1589 [12:03] <SchorschTM> I have got a Screenshot for Grey. (: But in german O:
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#1591 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - That's fine.
#1592 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Give me the address
#1593 [12:03] <SchorschTM> http://i.imgur.com/s0ylY.png
#1594 [12:03] <dizzledazzle> some one help!
#1595 [12:03] <SchorschTM> ok?
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#1597 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - Did you already try completely uninstalling and reinstalling java?
#1598 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Can you give us any more information than just "My minecraft doesn't work"?
#1599 [12:04] <dizzledazzle> yes!
#1600 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - What exactly happens?
#1601 [12:05] <SchorschTM> Yes other programs work with java !
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#1603 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> SchorschTM - That's not what I'm asking, could you please try uninstalling java completely before reinstalilng it again...
#1604 [12:05] <dizzledazzle> when i get on to the classic it doesent even start it just stays black
#1605 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Look at your mac's apple software update utility, make sure you have all the updates there installed
#1606 [12:06] <dizzledazzle> it is! i just checked and it said there was no updates
#1607 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Has classic worked before?
#1608 [12:07] <dizzledazzle> nope
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#1610 [12:07] <McMarcoD> Hi :)
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#1612 [12:07] <tomt610> this is what IDM told me while trying to download file, cannot find reports in kaspersky :P --------------------------- minecraft.jar --------------------------- Cannot download this file. Details: Connection has been closed by server.
#1613 [12:08] <SchorschTM> I have got the new version of java !
#1614 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Could you try clearing your browser's cache and temporary files
#1615 [12:08] <dizzledazzle> sorry i never figured out what cache was :(
#1616 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - You're using safari, right?
#1617 [12:09] <dizzledazzle> yah
#1618 [12:09] <McMarcoD> i've got a problem with the launcher. when I will log in, it says "cant connect to minecraft.net (not downloaded) help :>
#1619 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Windows?
#1620 [12:10] <McMarcoD> yes
#1621 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Please open safari, go to Tools (gear icon), and to Reset Safari, then Empty Cache and Remove All Cookies.
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#1623 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Restart safari after pressing the reset button
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#1625 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Does your windows username have a ! mark in it?
#1626 [12:11] <McMarcoD> no
#1627 [12:11] <dizzledazzle> ok ill try that
#1628 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#1629 [12:12] <McMarcoD> yes. i played it firstly with an other pc. it worked with this pc.
#1630 [12:12] <McMarcoD> sry for my bad english :X
#1631 [12:12] <dizzledazzle> wieght.... restart my cpu?
#1632 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - No, restart safari
#1633 [12:13] <dizzledazzle> how do you do that?
#1634 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Close safari, reopen it again
#1635 [12:13] <dizzledazzle> ok
#1636 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Then try minecraft again
#1637 [12:13] <dizzledazzle> k i do dat
#1638 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Are you running any sort of security software or firewall?
#1639 [12:14] <McMarcoD> i use avast. should i disable?
#1640 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> avast the AV, or the security suite?
#1641 [12:14] <McMarcoD> free
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#1643 [12:15] <frogaincia> what do u do when u get a "bad video driver"?
#1644 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, then no, it should only be the antivirus then
#1645 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Update your video drivers
#1646 [12:15] <frogaincia> how
#1647 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Running anything else? Any software with a network protection aspect?
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#1649 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - What operating system are you on?
#1650 [12:15] <dizzledazzle> it didnt work!
#1651 [12:15] <McMarcoD> no... maybe hamachi?
#1652 [12:16] <frogaincia> windows vista
#1653 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Definitely wouldn't be it
#1654 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Please give us this:
#1655 [12:16] <McMarcoD> ok
#1656 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> ??> frogaincia win/dxdiag
#1657 [12:16] <VoxelHead> frogaincia: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1658 [12:16] <VoxelHead> frogaincia: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1659 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> dizzledazzle - Then I don't think your computer can run minecraft classic, sorry.
#1660 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - Anything else?
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#1662 [12:16] <McMarcoD> skype
#1663 [12:16] <McMarcoD> :D
#1664 [12:17] <dizzledazzle> :( :( :( :( :( :( i sad now
#1665 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> That wouldn't be it either McMarcoD
#1666 [12:17] <McMarcoD> got nothing else..
#1667 [12:18] <tomt610> anyone know maybe where in linux is apache htdocs folder by default?
#1668 [12:18] <dizzledazzle> :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(:( :( :()
#1669 [12:18] <frogaincia> but why dose it work on my laptop
#1670 [12:19] <McMarcoD> where can i find an older version of minecraft launcher? a friend says that works
#1671 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> different computer, different hardware, perhaps with a card that has drivers recent enough to run minecraft
#1672 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> McMarcoD - It is against the Terms of Service to distribute minecraft files anywhere outside of the official website
#1673 [12:20] <frogaincia> i have the same hardware my pc dose
#1674 [12:20] <McMarcoD> oh ok
#1675 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Again, if you give us the dxdiag, we can point you in the right direction as to where to update your video drivers
#1676 [12:20] <Morrolan> McMarcoD: Look up MCNostalgia, a program which allows you to downgrade your Minecraft
#1677 [12:21] <tomt610> doesnt want to download for me even on older minecraft.exe :P so anyone know where is this htdocs folder on linux by default?
#1678 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Wouldn't help, McMarcoD's launcher isn't connecting to minecraft.net
#1679 [12:21] <tomt610> :P
#1680 [12:21] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Oh, then it won't help, true.
#1681 [12:21] <tomt610> older launcher told me that he is unable to download lwjgl.jar
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#1683 [12:21] <Morrolan> McMarcoD: Sorry, what I suggested only helps if you were able to download the files atleast once.
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#1685 [12:21] <thrtshtsh> bsod? help
#1686 [12:21] <frogaincia> ok thanks
#1687 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Again, something is blocking java from downloading files
#1688 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> It is most likely your security software
#1689 [12:22] <tomt610> yes so i ask where could be htdocs on linux by default
#1690 [12:22] <McMarcoD> what else can i do? :(
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#1692 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> perhaps /var/www if you're root
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#1694 [12:23] <tomt610> since i want to download minecraft.jar onto my server by wget and download it from apache
#1695 [12:23] <tomt610> but i cannot find my htdocs folder
#1696 [12:23] <tomt610> cause it was preinstalled
#1697 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Still wouldn't help. The minecraft.jar is just the launcher, it doesn't contain all the files needed to run minecraft
#1698 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> You only get those files with a successful login.. and if your software isn't blocking it
#1699 [12:24] <tomt610> i know a way around but i dont want to do it :P
#1700 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Sure, but you'll have to continuously use that method each time minecraft updates..
#1701 [12:25] <tomt610> i will try one thing :D
#1702 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Good luck trusting anything that doesn't come from the official website. I can show you a virus scan on one such "launcher" that had several nifty trojans on it
#1703 [12:26] <McMarcoD> it may be that the server is currently offline?
#1704 [12:26] <xolotl> tomt610: Why not just figure out what's blocking you from getting the official downloads?
#1705 [12:26] <tomt610> no .jar files want to download
#1706 [12:26] <tomt610> from anywhere
#1707 [12:27] <SchorschTM> My installer doesnt work, i need help
#1708 [12:28] <Morrolan> I wonder how many times SchorschTM will come back to ask this.
#1709 [12:29] <Morrolan> Unless it's one of Mibbit's default nicks, ofcourse.
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#1711 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> It isn't
#1712 [12:30] <tomt610> lol, so anyone know why my windows doesnt like any .jar files?
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#1714 [12:31] * GreyVulpine looks at tomt610's security software...
#1714 [12:31] <tomt610> cannot download them with internet download manager or browser
#1715 [12:32] <Michl3545> tomt610: sounds like some kind of security software
#1716 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> We've already narrowed it down to kaspersky internet security... would you like to test it by uninstalling it?
#1717 [12:33] <tomt610> i did exit it :P
#1718 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> There is no ‘exiting’ a security software suite
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#1721 [12:34] <tomt610> right click on tray and exit :P
#1722 [12:35] <Michl3545> tomt610: that closes the tray icon
#1723 [12:36] <tomt610> ok i got processes avp opened
#1724 [12:36] <tomt610> i will try to exit
#1725 [12:36] <tomt610> now they are closed
#1726 [12:36] <tomt610> and windows is telling me that my firewall is off
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#1728 [12:37] <tomt610> i will try to go into safe mode
#1729 [12:38] <Michl3545> tomt610: go to add or remove programs
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#1731 [12:38] <Michl3545> tomt610: uninstall kapersky
#1732 [12:39] <Michl3545> tomt610: antivirus likes to start in safe mode, just to screw with you
#1733 [12:39] <brienza> Just reinstall your operating system
#1734 [12:39] <brienza> It's the onlyt way
#1735 [12:39] <brienza> only*
#1736 [12:39] <Michl3545> tomt610: Linux time! :P
#1737 [12:39] <tomt610> i did few days ago
#1738 [12:39] <brienza> ...
#1739 [12:39] <brienza> So within 3 days of cleaning your entire Hard Drive you got ANOTHER virus?
#1740 [12:40] <tomt610> maybe
#1741 [12:40] <brienza> You shouldn't own a computer
#1742 [12:40] <tomt610> maybe it just was on another disk
#1743 [12:40] <Michl3545> brienza: or his silly AV just won't let him download .jar files because they are executable
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#1745 [12:40] <tomt610> ok uninstalled just reboot and check
#1746 [12:40] <brienza> Then why are we going into safe mode
#1747 [12:40] <brienza> Just uninstall the AV
#1748 [12:40] <tomt610> is AV starting in safe mode?
#1749 [12:41] <Michl3545> tomt610: depends
#1750 [12:41] <brienza> Just use something that isn't stupid
#1751 [12:41] <tomt610> i uninstalled anyway just restarting now
#1752 [12:41] <brienza> Use MBAM
#1753 [12:42] <Michl3545> tomt610: there are several ways of making things start on boot, and some will even work in safe mode. but i see you have already left... :(
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#1757 [12:44] <tomt610> ok so what is next step?
#1758 [12:45] <brienza> Use MBAM
#1759 [12:45] <tomt610> what is it :(?
#1760 [12:45] <brienza> Google it
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#1763 [12:46] <tomt610> but what virus wants to protect only jar files lol
#1764 [12:46] <Michl3545> tomt610: you can try downloading the file again, as GV suggested
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#1766 [12:47] <Michl3545> tomt610: my PC has AVG free, it may be worth a look
#1767 [12:47] <tomt610> minecraft.jar still doesnt want to download and minecraft exe dont want to update
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#1769 [12:47] <AG_Scott> I'm actually more inclined to recommend Microsoft Security Essentials.
#1770 [12:47] <tomt610> i dont have kaspersky installed now :P
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#1772 [12:48] <AG_Scott> It's evidently better than AVG and that other free one.
#1773 [12:48] <AG_Scott> Or you can go buy a mac or install linux and not have to worry about malware. :)
#1774 [12:48] <Sheepulf> I got the "Out of memory" problem.. Help?
#1775 [12:48] <tomt610> yea rly like mac doesnt have virus
#1776 [12:48] <brienza> >Buy mac
#1777 [12:49] <brienza> >Not everybody is made of money
#1778 [12:49] <AG_Scott> They both do but you gotta be stupid enough to install it.
#1779 [12:49] <Michl3545> tomt610: what browser are you using?
#1780 [12:49] <brienza> Please don't say IE
#1781 [12:50] <Sheepulf> I'm using minecraft.exe.. I prefer that:P
#1782 [12:50] <tomt610> IE?
#1783 [12:50] <brienza> What browser do you use
#1784 [12:50] <Sheepulf> Firefoz
#1785 [12:50] * AG_Scott is impatiently waiting on UPS to deliver his new macbook pro.
#1785 [12:50] <tomt610> firefox 5 Chrome 12 and opera 11
#1786 [12:50] <Sheepulf> Firefox*
#1787 [12:50] <tomt610> and ie6, 7, 8, 9
#1788 [12:50] <Michl3545> tomt610: try a different browser
#1789 [12:50] * brienza is impatiently waiting for AG's moneybook mo' to be delivered
#1789 [12:51] <AG_Scott> lol
#1790 [12:51] <brienza> Just stick with Opera
#1791 [12:51] <AG_Scott> No one uses Opera.
#1792 [12:51] <AG_Scott> Firefox/Chrome is where it's at.
#1793 [12:51] <tomt610> lol i need to use all since i am webdeveloper
#1794 [12:51] <AG_Scott> (and where it's always been.)
#1795 [12:51] <brienza> What's wrong with Opera?
#1796 [12:51] <Sheepulf> Somebody who can help?
#1797 [12:52] <AG_Scott> Nothing is wrong with it but no one uses it.
#1798 [12:52] <tomt610> opera got its own javascript engine which doesnt work everywhere like it should
#1799 [12:52] <Michl3545> Sheepulf: just ask your question
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#1801 [12:52] <Sheepulf> "Out of memory" how do i fix:s
#1802 [12:52] <tomt610> you can see fix on download site for linux :(
#1803 [12:52] <Michl3545> ??> Sheepulf win/reinst
#1804 [12:52] <brienza> http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
#1805 [12:52] <VoxelHead> Sheepulf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1806 [12:52] <VoxelHead> Sheepulf: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1807 [12:53] <AG_Scott> Michl3545: That doesn't add more RAM.
#1808 [12:53] <AG_Scott> brienza: That will get you banned because people don't know any better.
#1809 [12:53] <brienza> Oh
#1810 [12:53] <Michl3545> AG_Scott: I know
#1811 [12:53] <brienza> Sorry
#1812 [12:53] <AG_Scott> Sheepulf: How much ram do you have?
#1813 [12:53] <Sheepulf> Ok, i have tried to delete .bin, but i can delete it all then, ty:)
#1814 [12:55] <Sheepulf> i got 9 gb ram
#1815 [12:55] <Sheepulf> 8*
#1816 [12:55] <tomt610> malwarebytes havent found anything with quick scan or memory scan
#1817 [12:56] <brienza> If you reformatted 3 days ago you should be fine
#1818 [12:56] <brienza> Unless you're stupid, which I'm not saying you are.
#1819 [12:57] <tomt610> so how can windows block all jar files download
#1820 [12:57] <tomt610> ?
#1821 [12:57] <Michl3545> -.- brienza...
#1822 [12:57] <brienza> What Windows version do you use?
#1823 [12:57] <tomt610> 7
#1824 [12:57] <Morrolan> tomt610: Security software.
#1825 [12:57] <tomt610> home premium
#1826 [12:57] <brienza> Do you have admin permission?
#1827 [12:57] <tomt610> i dont have any
#1828 [12:57] <tomt610> i uninstalled
#1829 [12:57] <tomt610> and i am on admin account
#1830 [12:58] <brienza> Then there shouldn't be a problem
#1831 [12:58] <tomt610> and it still doesnt want to download
#1832 [12:58] <brienza> So let me get this straight: You want to download a jar file. Windows is blocking it
#1833 [12:58] <tomt610> yes!
#1834 [12:58] <brienza> You can't override the block?
#1835 [12:58] <tomt610> any jar, from any site
#1836 [12:59] <brienza> Can you take a screenshot of the message it gives you?
#1837 [12:59] <tomt610> i dont know where it is, i uninstalled kaspersky
#1838 [12:59] <tomt610> i pasted message from internet download manager
#1839 [13:00] <brienza> What is internet download manager
#1840 [13:00] <tomt610> --------------------------- minecraft.jar --------------------------- An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. This normally results if the peer application on the remote host is suddenly stopped, the host is rebooted, or the remote host used a 'hard close' --------------------------- OK ---------------------------
#1841 [13:02] <tomt610> on firefox it is The connection was reset The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
#1842 [13:04] <Michl3545> tomt610: can you donload exe files?
#1843 [13:04] <tomt610> yes
#1844 [13:04] <tomt610> i downloaded this malwarebyte :P
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#1846 [13:06] <tomt610> i got certificate from my university about windows usage etc but i have no idea where in windows is functionality that can do such magic
#1847 [13:06] <tomt610> i will try to uninstall jdk, i dont even know how it can help :p
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#1849 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Are you sure kaspersky is uninstalled now?
#1850 [13:07] <tomt610> yes
#1851 [13:07] <Morrolan> tomt610: When you download it it asks you under which name to save it I guess?
#1852 [13:07] <Morrolan> tomt610: DId you alyready try to change the file extension to .txt or something? ^^
#1853 [13:07] <tomt610> it doesnt
#1854 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> tomt610 - Do you have any other security software on that machine?
#1855 [13:08] <tomt610> why would it ask me if it cannot connect
#1856 [13:08] <tomt610> no, i installed only kaspersky
#1857 [13:08] <tomt610> and now malwarebyte
#1858 [13:08] <tomt610> but i tried download before installing it
#1859 [13:08] <Morrolan> tomt610: So, the download of any .jar gets blocked before anything else happens?
#1860 [13:08] <tomt610> yes
#1861 [13:09] <tomt610> like there is no connection to server
#1862 [13:09] <Morrolan> Ok then.
#1863 [13:09] <Morrolan> Could you try it from a different computer on the same network?
#1864 [13:10] <Morrolan> In case there's actually a router which blocks certain file types. ^^
#1865 [13:10] <tomt610> ok
#1866 [13:10] <tomt610> i got one with linux
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#1868 [13:13] <sproing> can someone please help me im playing the beta but it says that the screen isnt loading and error (1) occured can someone please help me?
#1869 [13:13] <tomt610> ok blocked on linux too, i am so screwed by my router :(((
#1870 [13:14] <sproing> what? o_o
#1871 [13:14] <brienza> Unplug your router
#1872 [13:14] <tomt610> :P
#1873 [13:14] <tomt610> so
#1874 [13:14] <brienza> Just go directly to your modem
#1875 [13:14] <sproing> i dont have one
#1876 [13:14] <tomt610> i can hard restart it from here
#1877 [13:14] <sproing> im just using laptop
#1878 [13:15] <brienza> >No router
#1879 [13:15] <xales> sproing: They are talking to someone else..
#1880 [13:15] <brienza> >Using laptop
#1881 [13:15] <sproing> oh soz
#1882 [13:15] <xales> ??> sproing win/reinst
#1883 [13:15] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1884 [13:15] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1886 [13:15] <sproing> what is an R+ key
#1887 [13:16] <SheepNeedMilk> I go to play minecraft however i can not log in to a SMP as it says I have not purchased minecraft and I am using a unregistered version of minecraft.
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#1890 [13:17] <tomt610_> Filter Java Applets was checked on router config
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#1892 [13:18] <mib_t74e9k> can someone please help me it says the screen wont load and error (1) occured what do i do?
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#1894 [13:19] <Michl3545> mib_t74e9k: what screen?
#1895 [13:19] <mib_t74e9k> at the start of the game
#1896 [13:19] <xales> ??> mib_t74e9k win/reinst
#1897 [13:19] <VoxelHead> mib_t74e9k: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1898 [13:19] <VoxelHead> mib_t74e9k: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1899 [13:19] <mib_t74e9k> it says an error has ocured and it wont load the screen
#1900 [13:20] <mib_t74e9k> what is a +r key
#1901 [13:20] <xales> ??> mib_t74e9k win/key
#1902 [13:20] <VoxelHead> mib_t74e9k: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1903 [13:20] <xales> So press the Windows key and the R key.
#1904 [13:21] <mib_t74e9k> ok so i press the windows button and then what?
#1905 [13:22] <xales> ..I just said
#1906 [13:22] <Michl3545> while you are holding the windows key, press the r key
#1907 [13:22] <mib_t74e9k> ok
#1908 [13:22] <mib_t74e9k> sorry im not into technical stuff
#1909 [13:24] <Michl3545> not the alt and F4 keys! the win and r keys! :O
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#1912 [13:27] <ajacobs0289> Hello
#1913 [13:28] <Michl3545> *silence*
#1914 [13:28] <ajacobs0289> can someone help me with minecraft error 4
#1915 [13:28] <Michl3545> ajacobs0289: state your problem, and someone will help you
#1916 [13:28] <Michl3545> ajacobs0289: do you hava an error message?
#1917 [13:29] <ajacobs0289> yes
#1918 [13:29] <ajacobs0289> It is error message number 4
#1919 [13:29] <ajacobs0289> when I try to start up the program
#1920 [13:29] <xales> Is that all it says?
#1921 [13:30] <ajacobs0289> no
#1922 [13:30] <xales> Please tell us the _complete_ error message ._.
#1923 [13:30] <ajacobs0289> in full it says /users/andrew/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar (no such files found)
#1924 [13:30] <xales> ??> ajacobs0289 mac/reinst
#1925 [13:30] <VoxelHead> ajacobs0289: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1926 [13:30] <VoxelHead> ajacobs0289: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1927 [13:30] <Undoubtedly> bam!
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#1929 [13:32] <ajacobs0289> perfect
#1930 [13:32] <ajacobs0289> thank you for your help
#1931 [13:33] <gabesdad> Anybody have a solution for a black screen from the loader?
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#1933 [13:33] <gabesdad> thanks for any help
#1934 [13:33] <Michl3545> ??> gabesdad win/reinst
#1935 [13:33] <VoxelHead> gabesdad: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1936 [13:33] <VoxelHead> gabesdad: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1937 [13:34] <gabesdad> thanks
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#1940 [13:36] <Undoubtedly> has the helpload been a lot higher since the forums have been down
#1941 [13:36] <mib_0smo7t> I just bought minecraft and im having some trouble
#1942 [13:36] <xales> mib_0smo7t: What trouble
#1943 [13:37] <mib_0smo7t> It says i have error occered (2) access: deined
#1944 [13:38] <xales> ??> mib_0smo7t win/reinst
#1945 [13:38] <VoxelHead> mib_0smo7t: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1946 [13:38] <VoxelHead> mib_0smo7t: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1947 [13:38] <Undoubtedly> we should make a "try these steps first" guide and put it in the topic
#1948 [13:38] <Undoubtedly> and definitely include win/reinst...
#1949 [13:38] <Michl3545> Undoubtedly: no on reads the topic D:
#1950 [13:38] <Michl3545> one*
#1951 [13:38] <Undoubtedly> Michl3545: lies and slander!
#1952 [13:39] * Undoubtedly realizes he didn't read the topic.
#1952 [13:39] <gabesdad> it worked you are my hero! Can I restore my son's texture packs now?
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#1954 [13:39] <Undoubtedly> ok put it on AuBots autojoin :)
#1955 [13:39] <xales> gabesdad: The texture packs were probably what caused the issue
#1956 [13:39] <gabesdad> thnks
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#1958 [13:39] <Michl3545> O.o
#1959 [13:40] <mib_0smo7t> What do i do again?
#1960 [13:40] <xales> ??> mib_0smo7t win/reinst
#1961 [13:40] <VoxelHead> mib_0smo7t: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1962 [13:40] <VoxelHead> mib_0smo7t: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1963 [13:40] <Undoubtedly> AuBot: work? habbergash!
#1964 [13:40] <mib_0smo7t> where is thr run command
#1965 [13:40] <mib_0smo7t> the
#1966 [13:40] <xales> mib_0smo7t: It opens when you press the windows key and the R key, just like the instructions say
#1967 [13:41] <Undoubtedly> AuBot: for'sooth! where are my peasants works for scripting and field work??
#1968 [13:41] <Undoubtedly> wow went a little medieval on ya there
#1969 [13:41] <Undoubtedly> haha
#1970 [13:42] <mib_0smo7t> But it says click windows+R at run command i do not know where run command is
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#1972 [13:42] <mib_0smo7t> win/reinst
#1973 [13:43] <Kealper> mib_0smo7t: hold the windows key down and press the r key, release both keys
#1974 [13:43] <mib_0smo7t> what do you do when you play in browser
#1975 [13:43] <Kealper> mib_0smo7t: a window called "Run" will come up, that is what vox is talking about
#1976 [13:43] * Undoubtedly sees a Kealper peasant for scripting and field work
#1976 [13:43] <Undoubtedly> =o
#1977 [13:43] <mib_0smo7t> do i clikc in brownser then windows+R
#1978 [13:43] <Kealper> mib_0smo7t: the browser still uses those same downloaded files
#1979 [13:43] <Kealper> no
#1980 [13:44] <Kealper> just.....hold the windows key and press r
#1981 [13:44] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: ಠ_ಠ
#1982 [13:44] <mib_0smo7t> on ther minecraft home page?
#1983 [13:44] <Kealper> yes, do it there
#1984 [13:44] <mib_0smo7t> what do i type in when it says run?
#1985 [13:45] <Undoubtedly> ಠ_๏
#1986 [13:45] <Kealper> %appdata%\.minecraft
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#1988 [13:47] <mib_0smo7t> im on my documents now what do i do?
#1989 [13:47] * Undoubtedly derp.
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#1990 [13:48] <Undoubtedly> mib_0smo7t: by "my documents" do you mean you see folders such as "bin" and "resources" and "saves" ?
#1991 [13:48] <Kealper> mib_0smo7t: in that .minecraft folder?
#1992 [13:48] <Undoubtedly> Kealper: (I think he means "Windows Explorer" by "My Documents")
#1993 [13:48] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: hence why i asked
#1994 [13:49] <strait_pro> hey, i need help, i bought minecraft a week ago today and my bank hasn't recieved the transaction so should i just buy it again?
#1995 [13:49] <mib_0smo7t> I use Windows7 computer it says Documents but nothing about saves and stuff
#1996 [13:50] <Michl3545> strait_pro: probably
#1997 [13:50] <Kealper> strait_pro: if you were not even charged, then yeah try again, something prevented the payment from clearing
#1998 [13:51] <strait_pro> ok then
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#2000 [13:51] <Kealper> mib_0smo7t: you didn't follow VoxelHead's instructions, or my instructions
#2001 [13:51] <Michl3545> people with a nickname of mib_* should be muted until they change their nickname
#2002 [13:52] <Undoubtedly> Michl3545: it'd show a level of technical competency :)
#2003 [13:52] <Kealper> Michl3545: that'd require a bit of work to do :/
#2004 [13:52] <Kealper> and i'm really lazy when it comes to aubot
#2005 [13:52] <Kealper> lol
#2006 [13:52] <Michl3545> but the rewards! it would be like basking in the glory of three suns!
#2007 [13:52] <Undoubtedly> Kealper: mirc script?
#2008 [13:53] <Kealper> mirc scripts are for squares
#2009 [13:53] <Kealper> aubot is an actual bot lol
#2010 [13:53] <xales> Kealper: +q mib_*
#2011 [13:53] <xales> derp
#2012 [13:53] <Kealper> SILENCE, INFIDEL!
#2013 [13:53] <Undoubtedly> haha
#2014 [13:53] <xales> (that would prevent them from changing their nick though :P)
#2015 [13:53] <Kealper> does it?
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#2017 [13:53] <Undoubtedly> shouldn't?
#2018 [13:53] <xales> yes
#2019 [13:53] <Michl3545> aubot would have to watch for nick changes
#2020 [13:54] <xales> if you can't speak in a channel, you can't change your nick while in it
#2021 [13:54] <Michl3545> oh... drat
#2022 [13:54] <Michl3545> foiled again :/
#2023 [13:54] <Undoubtedly> just /notice them incessently until they change it ;D
#2024 [13:54] <xales> AuBot could just kick them with a detailed message on how to do it
#2025 [13:54] * Michl3545 likes Undoubtedly's solution
#2025 [13:55] <xales> They don't even read the topic
#2026 [13:55] <xales> ._.
#2027 [13:55] <xales> (Or the notices AuBot sends them)
#2028 [13:55] <Undoubtedly> I still think the #minecrafthelp ride should have a height requirement
#2029 [13:55] <Kealper> and half the time the message me or xales spams them
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#2031 [13:56] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: only problem with that, is a massive amount of people playing Minecraft arn't tall enough
#2032 [13:56] <Michl3545> IRC and netiquette should be a required part of the education system
#2033 [13:56] <sam> what to do with new account that has error 2 access denied
#2034 [13:56] <Undoubtedly> logic be damned!
#2035 [13:56] <Kealper> since the game has no gore or other badness, many parents buy the game for their kids :/
#2036 [13:56] <xales> ??> sam win/reinst
#2037 [13:56] <VoxelHead> sam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2038 [13:56] <VoxelHead> sam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2039 [13:56] <Undoubtedly> notch should introduce some
#2040 [13:56] <Undoubtedly> the dirt screams bloody murder every time you hack it
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#2042 [13:58] <SPaR24> when i start my minecraft i get to the log in and when i click it alls it dose is bring up a black screen fixible?
#2043 [13:58] <Undoubtedly> ??> SPaR24 win/reinst
#2044 [13:58] <xales> Has it worked before?
#2045 [13:58] <VoxelHead> SPaR24: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2046 [13:58] <VoxelHead> SPaR24: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2047 [13:58] <SPaR24> not on this computer
#2048 [13:58] <xales> Try playing it in your browser
#2049 [13:58] <SPaR24> tryed same thing
#2050 [14:00] <Kealper> xales: eew....turn off your addons bar
#2051 [14:00] * xales likes his addon bar
#2051 [14:00] <Kealper> xales: it makes stuff horrible and wastes space that could be used for another line of text
#2052 [14:00] <xales> no u
#2053 [14:00] <Kealper> >:(
#2054 [14:00] <xales> :D
#2055 [14:01] <Kealper> Amazon's site sucks
#2056 [14:01] <Kealper> some of their resizing css ended up making the page literally 1px wider than my desktop
#2057 [14:01] <Kealper> so there is a horizontal scroll bar that goes left or right by 1px
#2058 [14:01] * mib_3yppyy [mib_3yppyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2059 [14:02] <Michl3545> lol
#2060 [14:03] <xales> ??>> Kealper dont/ID10T
#2061 [14:03] * Michl3545 strokes his addon's bar "my precious"
#2061 [14:03] <Undoubtedly> hahaha
#2062 [14:03] * Undoubtedly works in web design. </3 the 1px nastiness
#2062 [14:05] <xales> ??> Undoubtedly dont/ID10T
#2063 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Undoubtedly: (dont/id10t) Error I-D 10_T: If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability.
#2064 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Undoubtedly: (dont/id10t) Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#2065 [14:05] <Undoubtedly> :o
#2066 [14:05] <xales> :D
#2067 [14:06] * xales forsees using this entry quite a bit
#2067 [14:06] <Undoubtedly> now when you say "a professional"....
#2068 [14:06] <xales> :O
#2069 [14:06] * TherapistJoe says "Italians are from Italy"
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#2070 [14:06] <Michl3545> does everyone on irc make a mostly empty website just for the hotmask? examples: xales.info inafire.com
#2071 [14:07] <Undoubtedly> haha I use mine...
#2072 [14:07] <Undoubtedly> although it's not my hostmask
#2073 [14:07] <Undoubtedly> maybe it should be
#2074 [14:07] <xales> I actually use both :p
#2075 [14:07] <xales> they just don't have any public content
#2076 [14:07] <xales> but I spent about a day working on what's publicly available on inafire.com
#2077 [14:07] <Michl3545> btw xales, your drop page made me lol
#2078 [14:08] <xales> the xales.info stuff?
#2079 [14:08] <Michl3545> yeah... that is yours, right?
#2080 [14:08] <xales> indeed
#2081 [14:09] <SPaR24> i did as you said voxel but still nothing any other ideas?
#2082 [14:09] <xales> SPaR24: Windows XP?
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#2084 [14:09] <SPaR24> windows 7
#2085 [14:09] <Undoubtedly> that's better
#2086 [14:09] <gt5fan95> Can anyone help me with server setup (without Hamachi)?
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#2090 [14:11] <xales> gt5fan95: What aspect of that do you require assistance with?
#2091 [14:12] <oldtopmanserver> SPaR24: Voxelhead is a bot
#2092 [14:13] <xales> SPaR24: What video card does your computer have?
#2093 [14:13] <gt5fan95> I'm running it, but when I try to join, minecraft reads:
#2094 [14:13] <gt5fan95> "connection refused:connect"
#2095 [14:13] <Kealper> gt5fan95: what IP are you using?
#2096 [14:13] <gt5fan95> hold on...
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#2098 [14:14] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2099 [14:15] <TheNytangel> Have fear, TheNytangel is here!
#2100 [14:15] <Kealper> lol
#2101 [14:15] <Michl3545> and the right answer is 66.131.40.13
#2102 [14:15] <gt5fan95> 66.131.40.13
#2103 [14:15] <Kealper> inb4 "OMG HOW U NO MY IP?"
#2104 [14:15] <TheNytangel> !ip
#2105 [14:15] <Kealper> gt5fan95: did you set up port forwarding?
#2106 [14:15] <Michl3545> !myip
#2107 [14:15] <xales> gt5fan95: Did you put an IP on the server-ip line? If so, remove it.
#2108 [14:15] <TheNytangel> :D That's it
#2109 [14:16] <TheNytangel> !myip
#2110 [14:16] <TheNytangel> !yourip Michl3545
#2111 [14:16] <TheNytangel> Screw it
#2112 [14:16] <Kealper> !itdoesn'tworklikethat
#2113 [14:16] <TheNytangel> And my friggen W key
#2114 [14:16] <gt5fan95> No, although I'm new to IRC, I wouldn't be surprised that you'd be able to figure out my IP
#2115 [14:16] * Michl3545 whacks TheNytangel with a large trout
#2115 [14:16] <TheNytangel> >:o
#2116 [14:16] <gt5fan95> Will do,xales.
#2117 [14:17] * TheNytangel whcks Michl3545 with his stupid W key that is so hard to push down
#2117 [14:17] <Undoubtedly> ok random IRC question, how'd you guys define your hostname, it's been ages since I've done that
#2118 [14:17] <TheNytangel> Omfg, I give up
#2119 [14:17] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: your ip is public when you use irc.
#2120 [14:17] <TheNytangel> So many typos
#2121 [14:17] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: like kealper@xales.info?
#2122 [14:17] <Undoubtedly> sure
#2123 [14:17] <Undoubtedly> I've got a domain/VDS if I need to install anything
#2124 [14:17] <Undoubtedly> it's just been forever
#2125 [14:17] <xales> Undoubtedly: You have to have forward-confirmed reverse DNS
#2126 [14:17] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: i'm actually ircing on the machine that runs xales.info lol
#2127 [14:17] <xales> so, if your IP is 1.1.1.1, mydomain.com points to 1.1.1.1 and the reverse DNS for 1.1.1.1 points back to mydomain.com
#2128 [14:18] <Kealper> so when it checks the reverse dns entry, it sees the domain
#2129 [14:18] <Undoubtedly> yeah gotcha
#2130 [14:18] <gt5fan95> So, simply removing what I typed on "server-ip" should get it running?
#2131 [14:18] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: it will be a step forward
#2132 [14:18] <Kealper> ?? smp/server-ip
#2133 [14:18] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#2134 [14:18] <Undoubtedly> won't work here at my office ;D
#2135 [14:19] <gt5fan95> Nope: still not working:(
#2136 [14:19] <gt5fan95> Should I post my properties file?
#2137 [14:19] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: did you set up port forwarding?
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#2139 [14:19] <cornelius> sup?
#2140 [14:20] <xales> Hello.
#2141 [14:20] <gt5fan95> I have no idea what that is, but I know that the port is set to default.(25565)
#2142 [14:20] <Undoubtedly[a]> bbiab
#2143 [14:20] <cornelius> i need help
#2144 [14:20] <xales> cornelius: With?
#2145 [14:20] <gt5fan95> So, I guess that I didn't. What should I do?
#2146 [14:20] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: port forwarding tells your router incoming data on port 25565 should go to the pc with the server on it
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#2148 [14:21] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: open a command prompt window
#2149 [14:21] <cornelius> i bought the game yesterday and then its says im not in premium
#2150 [14:21] <gt5fan95> Alright...
#2151 [14:22] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#2152 [14:22] <TheNytangel> That was weird
#2153 [14:22] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: now type this command: ipconfig /all
#2154 [14:22] <TheNytangel> My screen just went all big for a couple seconds, then back to small
#2155 [14:22] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: and press enter too :)
#2156 [14:22] <gt5fan95> I know a little (and I mean, very little) about programming...
#2157 [14:23] <Michl3545> TheNytangel: Big Brother is watching you!
#2158 [14:23] <TheNytangel> ?
#2159 [14:23] <gt5fan95> I know that I'm supposed to press enter.:P Anyway, what now?
#2160 [14:23] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: did you get some IPs?
#2161 [14:23] <cornelius> minecraft owe me money!
#2162 [14:23] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: we are looking for your IP and your default gateway's ip
#2163 [14:24] <gt5fan95> yes
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#2165 [14:24] <gt5fan95> Are we looking for the ipv4 address?
#2166 [14:24] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: yes
#2167 [14:24] <gt5fan95> Found it : what now?
#2168 [14:24] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: is the default gateway 192.168.1.1?
#2169 [14:25] <TheNytangel> .3'
#2170 [14:25] <TheNytangel> - the '
#2171 [14:25] <reedlepee> how do we get someone to help up on this chatroom?
#2172 [14:25] <TheNytangel> ??> reedlepee ask
#2173 [14:25] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2174 [14:25] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2175 [14:25] <cornelius> me too, i need some help
#2176 [14:25] <gt5fan95> The preferred IPv4 address is 192.168.1.149
#2177 [14:26] <gt5fan95> If thats what you mean...
#2178 [14:26] <Kealper> cornelius: are you positive the payment went though?
#2179 [14:26] <Michl3545> is that your ipv4 address?
#2180 [14:26] <TheNytangel> I was closer
#2181 [14:26] <cornelius> YES
#2182 [14:26] <gt5fan95> Yes, that is my "preferred" ipv4 address.
#2183 [14:26] <TheNytangel> cornelius, when?
#2184 [14:26] <reedlepee> ok so i payed for minecraft from minecraft.net and i am having trouble installing it, i downloaded it on the mac and know when i log in a black screen appears even after i delete the bin folder
#2185 [14:27] * madlax [madlax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2186 [14:27] <madlax> can someone help me
#2187 [14:27] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: ok, now that we know that, go to http://192.168.1.1
#2188 [14:27] <cornelius> YESTERDAY
#2189 [14:27] <Kealper> cornelius: send an email to payment@mojang.com with your username and tell them what happened
#2190 [14:27] <TheNytangel> cornelius, don't yell. Has it been 24 hours?
#2191 [14:27] <Kealper> cornelius: and stop shouting, the acoustics in here are just fine
#2192 [14:27] <gt5fan95> Asks for username + password
#2193 [14:27] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: it is your router, do you know the user/pass?
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#2195 [14:27] <cornelius> sorry for shouting
#2196 [14:27] <TheNytangel> Username: admin Password: <leave blank>
#2197 [14:27] <TheNytangel> Maybe?
#2198 [14:27] <madlax> has anyone in here played the 'lost custom map' cuz i need help
#2199 [14:27] <gt5fan95> Yes, I got in
#2200 [14:28] <TheNytangel> I was right?
#2201 [14:28] <Kealper> madlax: we don't provide support to specific maps in here
#2202 [14:28] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: fantastic! now we are looking for port forwarding settings.
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#2204 [14:28] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: it may say something about gaming
#2205 [14:28] <skippydippy> Hey guys, I have an error when starting up minecraft
#2206 [14:28] <Kealper> skippydippy: care to elaborate?
#2207 [14:28] <skippydippy> Yeah, hold on
#2208 [14:28] <madlax> my minecraft keeps crashing or just closing in all
#2209 [14:29] <skippydippy> I open up the game
#2210 [14:29] <skippydippy> and login
#2211 [14:29] <Kealper> madlax: is it only on that one map you downloaded?
#2212 [14:29] <skippydippy> and I get load library failed with error 998
#2213 [14:29] <madlax> no it crashes all the time
#2214 [14:29] <Kealper> skippydippy: what operating system are you using?
#2215 [14:29] <madlax> about every 10 minutes
#2216 [14:29] <skippydippy> Windows 7
#2217 [14:29] <skippydippy> 64 bit
#2218 [14:29] <Kealper> madlax: turn your graphics down to lowest
#2219 [14:29] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: the port forwarding options page should have a list where you can put in IPs and ports, if that helps
#2220 [14:29] <Kealper> ??> skippydippy win/reinst
#2221 [14:29] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2223 [14:29] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2224 [14:30] <gt5fan95> Nothing. :( Would it be in advanced settings or basic settings?
#2225 [14:30] <gt5fan95> Oh, hold on..
#2226 [14:30] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: probably advanced
#2227 [14:30] <skippydippy> Alright, I shall try that
#2228 [14:30] <skippydippy> thanks in advance
#2229 [14:30] <reedlepee> do you have to wait 24 hours to play the game?
#2230 [14:30] <gt5fan95> .Found it. :)
#2231 [14:30] <Kealper> reedlepee: no, it should let you play as soon as they get the money
#2232 [14:30] <xales> reedlepee: You have to wait until your payment is processed, which can take a while
#2233 [14:31] <gt5fan95> "Single Port Forwarding"
#2234 [14:31] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: cool. put in 192.168.1.149 as the ip and 25565 as the port
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#2236 [14:31] <reedlepee> i got the paypal reciept is that what you guys are talking about?
#2237 [14:31] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: then save, enable, etc.
#2238 [14:31] <Kealper> reedlepee: how long has it been since you paid?
#2239 [14:31] <TheNytangel> Well, I'm stocked up on candy for a couple of days. I have 12 king sized reeces peanut butter cups and 12 king sized kit kats
#2240 [14:31] <cornelius> i supposed to wait 24 hours to process my minecraft ?????
#2241 [14:31] <Michl3545> ??> cornelius payment
#2242 [14:31] <Kealper> cornelius: no, chill out
#2243 [14:31] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2244 [14:31] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#2245 [14:31] <gt5fan95> There are boxes for external and internal ports ; which should I fill in?
#2246 [14:32] <reedlepee> 20 minutes am i being to impatient how long should i wait for
#2247 [14:32] <TheNytangel> gt5fan95, 25565 for all
#2248 [14:32] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: try both
#2249 [14:32] <Kealper> reedlepee: wait another 40 minutes or so, paypal isn't usually this slow but Minecraft has like 10,000 sales per day, so things can get hairy some times
#2250 [14:33] <gt5fan95> There's an "enabled" box. Do I tick it?
#2251 [14:33] <reedlepee> and how will i know when the payment has gone through?
#2252 [14:33] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: yes
#2253 [14:33] <TheNytangel> gt5fan95, yes
#2254 [14:33] <TheNytangel> Ninja'd
#2255 [14:33] <Kealper> reedlepee: it should send you an email once it's been confirmed and the payment cleared
#2256 [14:33] <gt5fan95> Also, should I give a name to the application or just leave it blank?
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#2258 [14:33] <Kealper> gt5fan95: that's not required, it's just so you know what it is
#2259 [14:34] <skippydippy> No, that fix did not work
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#2261 [14:34] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: you can say minecraft server, or something descriptive
#2262 [14:34] <reedlepee> thanks guys for the help
#2263 [14:34] <gt5fan95> Alright, I'll call it "Minecraft Server"
#2264 [14:34] <Kealper> skippydippy: hmm...weird...have you tried reinstalling Java?
#2265 [14:34] <skippydippy> No, how would I do that?
#2266 [14:34] <TheNytangel> 12 king sized kit kat bars.. yum :D
#2267 [14:34] <Kealper> skippydippy: go in to the start menu and type Programs and Features
#2268 [14:35] <Kealper> skippydippy: press enter, and let that load all your installed programs
#2269 [14:35] <Kealper> skippydippy: once you get that loaded, look for anything with Java in it's name and uninstall it
#2270 [14:35] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: now you want to save, or apply, or something along those lines
#2271 [14:35] <Kealper> skippydippy: after you've done that, tell m
#2272 [14:35] <Kealper> me*
#2273 [14:36] <Morrolan> !paid timson99
#2274 [14:36] <gt5fan95> Done.
#2275 [14:37] <Michl3545> !check 66.131.40.13
#2276 [14:37] <skippydippy> I must close my browser to uninstall java
#2277 [14:37] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: try connecting to your server now!
#2278 [14:37] <skippydippy> Can you send me the next steps?
#2279 [14:37] <gt5fan95> YAY :D
#2280 [14:37] <Kealper> skippydippy: after that, go to http://java.com and install it from there
#2281 [14:37] <Kealper> skippydippy: and that's it
#2282 [14:37] <skippydippy> Alright, thank you.
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#2284 [14:38] <gt5fan95> I know that this is about vanilla minecraft, but is there anything else I should know to install SMP mods?
#2285 [14:38] <gt5fan95> (I already know how to install mods)
#2286 [14:39] <Michl3545> gt5fan95: #Bukkit
#2287 [14:39] <Kealper> uhh...basically all you need for server mods is bukkit
#2288 [14:39] <Kealper> which can be found in the above channel
#2289 [14:39] <gt5fan95> My mod uses ModLoader MP, not Bukkit.
#2290 [14:39] <Kealper> then #risucraft
#2291 [14:39] <gt5fan95> (IndustrialCraft)
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#2293 [14:40] <gt5fan95> Alright, thanks so much!
#2294 [14:40] <Michl3545> glad we could help
#2295 [14:40] <mortisha> ?? bot
#2296 [14:40] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#2297 [14:40] <Kealper> wut
#2298 [14:40] <mortisha> kay voxelhead since your a bot you should have a lot of answers
#2299 [14:41] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#2300 [14:41] <TheNytangel> What is the square root of pie?
#2301 [14:41] <TheNytangel> What is the square root of pi?
#2302 [14:41] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2303 [14:41] <Kealper> vox, what is 100 + 50?
#2304 [14:41] <Michl3545> 1.77245
#2305 [14:41] <dopeghoti> TheNytangel: two and a half slices, one crust.
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#2307 [14:41] <cornelius> ok
#2308 [14:41] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2309 [14:42] <TheNytangel> What is 10 * 5
#2310 [14:42] <Michl3545> 110010
#2311 [14:42] <mortisha> voxelhead I purchased minecraft with american but first it showed I was banned and then suddenly there was a purchase thank you page did I really purchase minecraft or what
#2312 [14:42] <VoxelHead> since xolol's ignoring me anyhow, I may as well be sociable again.
#2313 [14:42] <Kealper> \o/
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#2315 [14:43] <xales> mortisha: If there was no charge, then you did not purchase it
#2316 [14:43] <mortisha> oh! gonna have to purchase it again
#2317 [14:43] <cornelius> moneybookers emailed this to me....''We have NOT automatically completed the transaction to Mojang AB. You will have to return to the payment page of the merchant and restart the payment process using the balance of your account to complete the transaction. ''..HELP??
#2318 [14:43] <cornelius> what should i do?
#2319 [14:43] <mortisha> thanks everybody
#2320 [14:44] <Kealper> cornelius: uhh....that's an interesting error
#2321 [14:44] <dopeghoti> cornelius: I'm not sure what you expect from us. The instructions you are in receipt of seem rather clear.
#2322 [14:44] <Kealper> cornelius: i'd say don't use moneybookers, they seem to suck
#2323 [14:44] <VoxelHead> To is a pile of spank.
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#2325 [14:44] <cornelius> i already purchased it
#2326 [14:44] <Michl3545> i can see why some people get confused about voxelhead
#2327 [14:44] <dopeghoti> apparently not: moneybookers is voiding the transaction. Did you not read what you just told us?
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#2329 [14:45] <cornelius> yes
#2330 [14:45] <Kealper> Michl3545: oh, it'll be even worse now, vox's genuine stupidity is turned on in here again lol
#2331 [14:45] <cornelius> because i dont understand
#2332 [14:45] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yay!
#2333 [14:45] <Morrolan> Vox is back! :D
#2334 [14:45] <Kealper> vox, what is 1 + 2?
#2335 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Kealper: that's 3
#2336 [14:46] <TheNytangel> Thank you Kealper, I fealt lonely being the only one that had genuine stupidity.
#2337 [14:46] <Kealper> lol
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#2339 [14:46] <Kealper> seriously....vox is the best calculator ever
#2340 [14:46] <VoxelHead> I like them -_-
#2341 [14:46] <TheNytangel> Don't like what?
#2342 [14:47] <dopeghoti> come again?
#2343 [14:47] <cornelius> whats the official email of minecraft?
#2344 [14:47] <VoxelHead> bye wippler
#2345 [14:47] <xales> cornelius: The problem is not something Mojang can help you with
#2346 [14:47] <cornelius> for help
#2347 [14:47] <xales> it is a problem with moneybookers, the payment processor
#2348 [14:47] <xales> it has absolutely nothing to do with Mojang, except for they are the eventual destination for your money
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#2350 [14:48] <xales> you must contact Moneybooker's support, if you do not understand what the message says.
#2351 [14:48] <mib_4y0wqd> Hey, this is skippydippy again
#2352 [14:48] <mib_4y0wqd> Reinstalling java didn't seem to work either
#2353 [14:48] <Kealper> that's quite strange then...
#2354 [14:48] <mib_4y0wqd> I wish the forums were up, I see fixes on google.
#2355 [14:48] * mib_yhdszd [mib_yhdszd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2356 [14:48] <mib_4y0wqd> Yet, they exclusively seem to be on the minecraft forums
#2357 [14:49] <mib_yhdszd> hi
#2358 [14:49] <Kealper> xales: loadlibrary failed blah blah, reinstalling game/java didn't work, seen that before?
#2359 [14:49] <Kealper> Morrolan: You are currently using the nick "Morrolan". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#2360 [14:49] <Kealper> whoops
#2361 [14:49] <Kealper> name tab fail
#2362 [14:49] <VoxelHead> tacos
#2363 [14:49] <Kealper> mib_yhdszd: You are currently using the nick "mib_yhdszd". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#2364 [14:49] <Kealper> mib_4y0wqd: You are currently using the nick "mib_4y0wqd". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#2365 [14:49] <xales> Kealper: What library failed to load? >.>
#2366 [14:49] <mib_yhdszd> my minecraft is lagging and i just got my new pc to 10.000 $ any1 can help?
#2367 [14:50] <Kealper> i don't think it said....
#2368 [14:50] <Kealper> i wonder if it will in debug output...
#2369 [14:50] <xales> Kealper: It will
#2370 [14:50] <Kealper> Zizek: Try following the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2371 [14:50] <Zizek> library 998
#2372 [14:50] <mib_yhdszd> any1 can help?
#2373 [14:50] <mib_yhdszd> ?????
#2374 [14:50] <xales> mib_yhdszd: Turn off smooth lighting, lower the view distance
#2375 [14:50] <mib_yhdszd> i alredy did m8 its still lagging :(
#2376 [14:51] <Kealper> Zizek: try that, it probably won't make the game work, but it'll give a bit more insight into the problem
#2377 [14:51] <mib_yhdszd> oka m8 :)
#2378 [14:52] <xales> mib_yhdszd: Uh, those are instructions for someone else...
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#2380 [14:53] <mib_yhdszd> hi again m8 now its not lagging but when i played 4 like 4 minutes then it starts lagging :(
#2381 [14:53] <mib_0pzdpg> WHY CANT I HEAR ANYTHING ON MINECRAFT BUT CAN ON EVERYTHING ELSE
#2382 [14:53] * xales kicked mib_0pzdpg from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 7/16" of an inch is all you need to move your finger to not sound like an idiot: http://maddox.xmission.com/keyboard4.jpg)
#2383 [14:53] <mib_yhdszd> try utube m8 just type "minecraft problem" that will help u :D
#2384 [14:53] <Kealper> dang, i wanted to try out that kick
#2385 [14:53] <xales> ??> mib_yhdszd win/reinst
#2386 [14:53] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2387 [14:53] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2389 [14:54] <Zizek> Alright
#2390 [14:54] <Zizek> It says Java is not recognized as an internal or external command
#2391 [14:54] <mib_0pzdpg> please i want to hear it
#2392 [14:54] <xales> mib_0pzdpg: Unmute it then
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#2394 [14:54] <mib_0pzdpg> i did
#2395 [14:54] <mib_yhdszd> see now its lagging :)
#2396 [14:55] <xales> mib_0pzdpg: turn up the volume on your computer, then
#2397 [14:55] <mib_0pzdpg> the volume is max it is unmuted
#2398 [14:55] <mib_0pzdpg> every game i play has sound
#2399 [14:55] <Zizek> Does that help?
#2400 [14:55] <mib_0pzdpg> but minecraft
#2401 [14:56] <mib_yhdszd> omg now my minecraft is lagging again i dont know what to do any1 can help :)
#2402 [14:56] <xales> Zizek: one second
#2403 [14:56] * xales pokes Kealper
#2403 [14:56] <xales> ??> mib_yhdszd dont/bother
#2404 [14:56] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (dont/bother) If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#2405 [14:56] <Kealper> oh drat
#2406 [14:56] <TheNytangel> mib_yhdszd, close everything else
#2407 [14:56] <mib_yhdszd> hvae u answer me ?
#2408 [14:56] <mib_0pzdpg> please i am listening
#2409 [14:56] <xales> mib_yhdszd: I have answered you more than once
#2410 [14:56] <xales> mib_0pzdpg: I am not talking to you.
#2411 [14:56] <mib_0pzdpg> oh sorry
#2412 [14:56] <Morrolan> ??> mib_yhdszd win/reinst
#2413 [14:56] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2414 [14:56] <Kealper> Zizek: open that .bat file
#2415 [14:56] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2416 [14:57] <Morrolan> This, for the fourth time or so, mib_yhdszd ;)
#2417 [14:57] <Kealper> Zizek: in notepad or whatever, you're going to need to edit it
#2418 [14:57] <Zizek> Alright
#2419 [14:57] <mib_yhdszd> thanks m8 ;)
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#2421 [14:57] <Zizek> edit the file I just created?
#2422 [14:57] <TheNytangel> Mmhm
#2423 [14:57] <mib_0pzdpg> wait was that for me?
#2424 [14:57] <xales> No.
#2425 [14:57] <Kealper> Zizek: yes, tell me when you have it opened up
#2426 [14:57] <mib_0pzdpg> ok
#2427 [14:57] <Zizek> It's open
#2428 [14:57] <Kealper> mib_0pzdpg: You are currently using the nick "mib_0pzdpg". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#2429 [14:57] <VoxelHead> i like them :)
#2430 [14:58] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2431 [14:58] <VoxelHead> =D
#2432 [14:58] <Kealper> Zizek: see where it says "java" in the front of the file?
#2433 [14:58] <Zizek> yes
#2434 [14:58] <TheNytangel> Voxel's stupidity is very random
#2435 [14:59] * DopeGhoti throws vox at TheNytangel
#2435 [14:59] <Kealper> Zizek: replace that with "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" WITH the quotes
#2436 [14:59] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: Oh, he has his moments. Just wait a bit and you'll see. :D
#2437 [14:59] <Undoubtedly[a]> the bot speaks...
#2438 [14:59] <VoxelHead> master?
#2439 [14:59] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, I know. It isn't my first time..
#2440 [14:59] <Zizek> Alright
#2441 [14:59] <Zizek> It launched Minecraft
#2442 [14:59] <Zizek> the loader
#2443 [14:59] <Kealper> TheNytangel: you were supposed to say "this isn't my first roh-day-oh, cowboy"
#2444 [14:59] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: Ah, didn't knew you've alredy been here when Vox's GS wasn't disabled yet.
#2445 [14:59] <Zizek> when I ran it
#2446 [14:59] <Guest8830> soo sound thing when someone can help ill be patient
#2447 [15:00] <Kealper> Zizek: ok, wait for the slurry of debug crap that's about to fly into the black window once you log in and try to play the game
#2448 [15:00] <Kealper> Zizek: so..log in and try to play
#2449 [15:01] <Zizek> Alright,
#2450 [15:01] <Kealper> Guest8830: what was your issue?
#2451 [15:01] <Zizek> I didn't get much debug text
#2452 [15:01] <Guest8830> i have no sound
#2453 [15:01] <Zizek> Just says
#2454 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Guest8830: are your speakers plugged in and turned on?
#2455 [15:01] <Guest8830> yes
#2456 [15:01] <Zizek> 16 achievements, 148 recipes
#2457 [15:01] <Guest8830> all other things i play have sound
#2458 [15:01] <Kealper> Guest8830: stop your game, go in to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin\resources\natives and delete the OpenAL32.dll and OpenAL64.dll, then run minecraft again
#2459 [15:01] <mib_yhdszd> i now its the third time i write but i keeps lagging after i played 3 minutes ???
#2460 [15:02] <Zizek> Setting user: <my name> <several numbers>
#2461 [15:02] <Kealper> Zizek: and the game is running fine?
#2462 [15:02] <Zizek> No,
#2463 [15:02] <Zizek> it gave me the same error.
#2464 [15:02] <Morrolan> mib_yhdszd: Did you already follow the instructions Vox gave you?
#2465 [15:02] <Morrolan> The one about reinstall Minecraft?
#2466 [15:02] <mib_yhdszd> yeah i just try
#2467 [15:02] <mib_yhdszd> them out :)
#2468 [15:02] <Zizek> load library failed with error 998
#2469 [15:03] <Kealper> Zizek: well then...being completely honest, i have no idea what it means by that error then
#2470 [15:03] <xales> 998 is ERROR_NOACCESS
#2471 [15:03] <Kealper> orly
#2472 [15:03] <xales> Zizek: Run as Administrator.
#2473 [15:03] <titegtnodI> xales == god
#2474 [15:03] <titegtnodI> ohai xales
#2475 [15:03] <xales> ohai
#2476 [15:03] <Kealper> no, he probably just googled it
#2477 [15:03] <titegtnodI> xales == god
#2478 [15:03] <mib_yhdszd> i am playing like 3-4 minutes then it start lagging :(
#2479 [15:03] <Zizek> ahaha
#2480 [15:03] <Kealper> xales == cod D:
#2481 [15:03] <TheNytangel> TheNytangel == badass
#2482 [15:03] <Zizek> When I run the .bat
#2483 [15:03] <Zizek> as admin
#2484 [15:03] <Zizek> I get some error messages
#2485 [15:04] <Morrolan> ??> mib_yhdszd win/dxdiag
#2486 [15:04] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2487 [15:04] <VoxelHead> mib_yhdszd: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2488 [15:04] <Morrolan> Do this please, mib_yhdszd
#2489 [15:04] <xales> Zizek: Right click in the command window, select mark
#2490 [15:04] <xales> Drag a box over the error messages, and hit enter
#2491 [15:04] <xales> The go to http://pastebin.com and paste them into the box, click submit, and give us the URL it sends you to
#2492 [15:04] <xales> (the previous steps copied the error messages for you, so all you have to do is paste them onto pastebin.com)
#2493 [15:05] <Zizek> http://pastebin.com/1q6ybdUL
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#2495 [15:06] <mib_yhdszd> now i saved it to my desktop then what ? :)
#2496 [15:06] <Morrolan> mib_yhdszd: Now go to www.pastebin.com and paste the contents of that textfile in there. Then hit 'submit' and give us the URL.
#2497 [15:06] * Kealper steps out for a few minutes
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#2498 [15:06] <xales> Zizek: What's your Windows username?
#2499 [15:06] <Zizek> James
#2500 [15:07] <xales> Hmm...No ! in it?
#2501 [15:07] <Zizek> I don't believe so.
#2502 [15:07] <xales> Well, the problem appears to be something with your account, so I would try this:
#2503 [15:07] <xales> ??> Zizek win/profile
#2504 [15:07] <VoxelHead> Zizek: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2505 [15:07] <VoxelHead> Zizek: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2506 [15:08] <Zizek> Alright
#2507 [15:08] <mib_yhdszd> http://pastebin.com/Rh3yRvG4
#2508 [15:08] <mib_yhdszd> is that right ? :)
#2509 [15:09] <mib_yhdszd> in new at this :)
#2510 [15:09] <mib_yhdszd> im
#2511 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> mib_yhdszd: that looks like only part of the file.
#2512 [15:10] <mib_yhdszd> what?
#2513 [15:10] <xales> That isn't the entire file
#2514 [15:10] <Morrolan> mib_yhdszd: This file should be longer. Could it be that you missed something?
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#2516 [15:10] <Morrolan> Though you have sufficient RAM, so this shouldn't be the cause of the lag after some minutes.
#2517 [15:11] <Guest8830> i tried deleting the open files the two of them and there is still no sound
#2518 [15:11] <mib_yhdszd> http://pastebin.com/ApKF59sV
#2519 [15:11] <Guest8830> ??
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#2521 [15:12] <Morrolan> That's... interesting.
#2522 [15:12] <mib_yhdszd> thats right :)
#2523 [15:12] <Morrolan> Yep.
#2524 [15:12] <Kealper> Guest8830: then your game's sound is either muted/turned down ingame, muted/turned down in the system volume stuff, or other such stuff
#2525 [15:12] <mib_yhdszd> yes finally :)
#2526 [15:12] <Morrolan> mib_yhdszd: What sort of PC is this? A server?
#2527 [15:12] <xales> mib_yhdszd: Your computer has an Intel graphics card...which isn't really meant for running intense games
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#2530 [15:12] <Kealper> dangit xales....
#2531 [15:12] <Zizek2> Well, I tried creating a new user account
#2532 [15:12] <Morrolan> Cause it has 8 GB of RAM, a CPU with eight cores, but only an integrated graphics card
#2533 [15:13] <Zizek2> and that didn't help
#2534 [15:13] <mib_yhdszd> is that bad?
#2535 [15:13] <Kealper> Morrolan: 4 hyperthreaded coes, huge difference
#2536 [15:13] <Kealper> cores*
#2537 [15:13] <Morrolan> Kealper: Ah, didn't see that at first.
#2538 [15:13] <sound> soo any suggestions on broken sound
#2539 [15:13] <Morrolan> Kealper: But still
#2540 [15:13] <Kealper> Morrolan: it's because he is using onboard graphics, Intel onboard graphics, at that
#2541 [15:13] <xales> sound: then your game's sound is either muted/turned down ingame, muted/turned down in the system volume stuff, or other such stuff
#2542 [15:13] <mib_yhdszd> is my pc crap then????
#2543 [15:14] <xales> mib_yhdszd: Your graphics card is, yes
#2544 [15:14] <xales> The rest of it, no
#2545 [15:14] <Kealper> mib_yhdszd: no, buy a video card and it'll work like a charm
#2546 [15:14] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yea, but why would such a PC have onboard graphics?
#2547 [15:14] <sound> but its not its all up and all the other games make sound
#2548 [15:14] <sound> and its all on
#2549 [15:14] <xales> sound: If it was, then it would be playing sound
#2550 [15:14] <sound> i can play music and diablo 2 with sound
#2551 [15:14] <Kealper> sound: do you have windows vista or windows 7?
#2552 [15:15] <sound> xp
#2553 [15:15] <Kealper> oh, then yeah, it's broke
#2554 [15:15] <sound> ??
#2555 [15:15] <mib_yhdszd> i got this pc because i wnated a 1MONSTER machine and i got a expert to make it for me and then it CANT run FUCKING minecraft am i right ???
#2556 [15:15] <Kealper> mib_yhdszd: that's exactly right
#2557 [15:15] <Zizek2> The windows user account fix didn't work
#2558 [15:15] <Morrolan> mib_yhdszd: Well, seems he forgot about the graphics card :D
#2559 [15:15] <mib_yhdszd> if i am that SUCKS !!!!!
#2560 [15:16] <Kealper> mib_yhdszd: no, the only thing that sucks is your computer's onboard graphics
#2561 [15:16] <sound> so no one has ever had this promblem with sound
#2562 [15:17] <Kealper> mib_yhdszd: in all honesty, your computer itself is pretty good, the only problem with it is it's graphics card
#2563 [15:17] <mib_yhdszd> i cant do anything to make it work???
#2564 [15:17] <mib_yhdszd> now im PIST OFF!!!!!
#2565 [15:17] <xales> Buy a good graphics card for it.
#2566 [15:18] <mib_yhdszd> i wont buy anything i i used 10.000 $ 4 it
#2567 [15:18] <Undoubtedly> wowee
#2568 [15:18] <Kealper> wow, that was a depressing waste of money
#2569 [15:18] <Zizek2> That's crazy.
#2570 [15:18] <Undoubtedly> I hope that wasn't USD you got ripped
#2571 [15:18] <mib_yhdszd> that really many money :)
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#2573 [15:18] <mib_yhdszd> beliave me it is a monster machine
#2574 [15:18] <Zizek2> No computer should cost that much
#2575 [15:18] <Zizek2> Unless you're working for NASA
#2576 [15:19] <mib_yhdszd> haha :)
#2577 [15:19] <VoxelHead> Say, you're full of organs aren't you? and you wouldn't notice if you were missing a few?
#2578 [15:19] <mib_yhdszd> have a special edition
#2579 [15:19] <Undoubtedly> 8gb with a 2ghz i7 shouldn't cost more than 2 grand at MOST with a bamf video card included
#2580 [15:19] <Kealper> ^
#2581 [15:19] <xolotl> mib_yhdszd: Actually I think you might just have it configured incorrectly
#2582 [15:19] <xales> This was about $1200: http://xales.info/~xales/desktop.txt ._.
#2583 [15:19] <xolotl> In that dxdiag output there's a "Name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M "
#2584 [15:19] <mib_yhdszd> it isnt the right options that is on the pc it is a special designed pc so u cant see the real optins for it :)
#2585 [15:20] <xolotl> I bet you've just got the monitor plugged into the onboard instead, and are using Intel drivers
#2586 [15:20] <Kealper> xolotl: you could be on to something
#2587 [15:20] <xales> mib_yhdszd: Uh, no, that's what it really has ._.
#2588 [15:20] <xolotl> If you configure it to use the nVidia card (with the nVidia drivers) it should be much better
#2589 [15:20] * Undoubtedly thinks xolotl will get a cookie.
#2589 [15:20] <xolotl> \o/
#2590 [15:22] <Undoubtedly> xales: what no RAID controller? :)
#2591 [15:22] <Zizek2> So
#2592 [15:22] <Zizek2> The user change fix didn't wor
#2593 [15:22] <Zizek2> work
#2594 [15:22] <Zizek2> *
#2595 [15:23] <xales> Undoubtedly: I have one, it's disabled
#2596 [15:23] <xales> (due to the SSD)
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#2598 [15:23] <mib_yhdszd> i just talked to my expert and he says its has a seperated grafcih card
#2599 [15:23] <xales> mib_yhdszd: We already told you that. You have to enable that card
#2600 [15:23] <Undoubtedly> xales: if you use a PCIx RAID controller you can freeup your north bridge and have the HD be accessed on its own pipe
#2601 [15:23] <mib_yhdszd> how can i do that :)
#2602 [15:23] <xales> Ask the expert
#2603 [15:23] <Undoubtedly> xales: huge boost in HDD performance (and frees up the bridge for stuff like video)
#2604 [15:24] <xales> Undoubtedly: I have no use for RAID at the moment >.>
#2605 [15:24] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: piling too much stuff on both north and south bridges is the way to go! D:
#2606 [15:24] <mib_yhdszd> u cant tell e i called hinm like 40 times today :D
#2607 [15:24] <xales> Anything important goes on my NAS, which is RAID-somethingIforget
#2608 [15:24] <Zizek2> Hello?
#2609 [15:24] <xales> Zizek2: Try this:
#2610 [15:24] <xales> ??> Zizek2 javara
#2611 [15:24] <VoxelHead> Zizek2: (javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2612 [15:24] <VoxelHead> Zizek2: (javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2613 [15:25] <xales> mib_yhdszd: We don't know, unfortunately.
#2614 [15:25] <mib_yhdszd> oka :)
#2615 [15:25] <Zizek2> If he is an expert
#2616 [15:25] <Zizek2> just say that you want minecraft to work
#2617 [15:25] <xolotl> mib_yhdszd: Try shutting the machine down, move the monitor cable to the video port on the card, and turn the machine back on. Perhaps things will Just Work
#2618 [15:25] <Kealper> tell him you don't want to use that crappy onboard graphics chip, and you want to use the beast of a card instead
#2619 [15:26] <Kealper> anyways, /me is going afk
#2620 [15:26] <Undoubtedly> Kealper's bridges: http://goo.gl/nrUUg
#2621 [15:26] <mib_yhdszd> im using a laptop m8 :)
#2622 [15:26] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: totally
#2623 [15:27] <Kealper> Undoubtedly: they haven't fallen into the river yet, though!
#2624 [15:27] <xolotl> mib_yhdszd: k, usually when you boot up a machine there'll be something like "Press <whatever> to edit BIOS setttings" or somesuch. Try doing that, see if there's a section about which video card to use.
#2625 [15:27] <xolotl> Though I wasn't aware that laptops were capable of having more than one graphics card
#2626 [15:28] <xales> xolotl: It's probably enormous :P
#2627 [15:28] <mib_yhdszd> it really is :D
#2628 [15:28] <Zizek2> No, same error
#2629 [15:28] <Undoubtedly> yet!
#2630 [15:28] <mib_yhdszd> its better tha alienware :P
#2631 [15:28] <Michl3545> watch it be a desktop with a screen taped on
#2632 [15:28] <Zizek2> LOL
#2633 [15:28] <Kealper> Michl3545: don't hate, i thought about doing that at one point
#2634 [15:29] <Kealper> making a case mod with a flip-out lcd displace
#2635 [15:29] <Kealper> display*
#2636 [15:29] <Michl3545> me too >.>
#2637 [15:29] <Undoubtedly> ಠ~ಠ
#2638 [15:29] <Michl3545> i just thought about tape
#2639 [15:29] <Undoubtedly> painters tape
#2640 [15:29] <xolotl> mib_yhdszd: Anyway, either you or your "expert" will have to figure out how to do it; all we can do is guess.
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#2642 [15:29] <mib_yhdszd> well i apresiate your help :)
#2643 [15:29] <claude> mine craft isnt working
#2644 [15:30] <xales> claude: Why isn't it?
#2645 [15:30] <Kealper> Zizek2: as for you...i'm not sure why it won't work...do you have any other computers to play it on?
#2646 [15:30] <Zizek2> No, just a personal laptop
#2647 [15:30] <xales> Zizek2: Potentially, security software could be blocking it from running
#2648 [15:30] <claude> i just bought it I downloaded it a bunch of times and it wont open (i have a mac)
#2649 [15:30] <Zizek2> Hm
#2650 [15:30] <xales> Possibly try disabling that, then running it?
#2651 [15:30] <Zizek2> I'll see if that is the reason
#2652 [15:30] <xales> ??> claude mac/permissions
#2653 [15:30] <Zizek2> Good idea, actually
#2654 [15:30] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2655 [15:30] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2656 [15:30] <Zizek2> it has been known to do that
#2657 [15:33] <Kealper> who wants to see my dusty-as-heck insides of my computer before i actually go afk? lol
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#2659 [15:33] <Michl3545> ooh ooh me!
#2660 [15:33] <Morrolan> Kealper: Well, will it make any difference whether we say yes or no? :p
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#2662 [15:34] <Kealper> Morrolan: not really lol
#2663 [15:34] <Undoubtedly> once it has been seen
#2664 [15:34] <Undoubtedly> IT CANNOT BE UNSEEN
#2665 [15:34] <Michl3545> ^the above applies to minecraft, too
#2666 [15:35] <Kealper> as a side note....this camera's shutter speed is pretty epic, it doesn't even look like the cpu fan was moving in the pic but it's actually cruising along at like 3100rpm lol
#2667 [15:35] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/RWHRV.jpg
#2668 [15:35] <Michl3545> so organized
#2669 [15:36] <Kealper> lol
#2670 [15:36] <Undoubtedly> Michl3545: do you know how many phallices ended up in my server?
#2671 [15:36] <Morrolan> Michl3545: Inded :D
#2672 [15:36] <Undoubtedly> Michl3545: ...not grief'd lol
#2673 [15:37] <Kealper> hmm...i need to vacuum my computer out again :/
#2674 [15:37] <Michl3545> Undoubtedly: what?
#2675 [15:38] <Undoubtedly> my friends all act like 12 year olds =/
#2676 [15:38] <Undoubtedly> but I totally approve
#2677 [15:38] <Undoubtedly> it's odd
#2678 [15:39] <Michl3545> any solid gold ones?
#2679 [15:41] <Undoubtedly> actually, yes
#2680 [15:41] <Undoubtedly> about 20blocks tall lol
#2681 [15:41] <Undoubtedly> seriously
#2682 [15:41] <Michl3545> then your server is complete
#2683 [15:41] <Undoubtedly> WAY too much time
#2684 [15:41] <Undoubtedly> complete with a wheat base
#2685 [15:42] <Morrolan> dick of Midas, eh? :D
#2686 [15:42] * Kealper remembers the horrors of cleaning up all the gold phallitic structures back in minecraft classic
#2686 [15:42] <Undoubtedly> lmao
#2687 [15:42] <Undoubtedly> Morrolan: +2 internets
#2688 [15:42] <Morrolan> ^^
#2689 [15:42] <VoxelHead> -_-
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#2691 [15:43] * Michl3545 pokes voxelhead
#2691 [15:43] <VoxelHead> arrrrrgh my nail! now i only have 219042 left
#2692 [15:43] <VoxelHead> look, here in this warehouse
#2693 [15:43] <Undoubtedly> are they being examined by top men?
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#2695 [15:49] <Kealper> vox, what is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
#2696 [15:49] <VoxelHead> A snowboard.
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#2698 [15:49] <Undoubtedly> 42 of them?
#2699 [15:49] <Kealper> vox, 42 snowboards?
#2700 [15:49] <VoxelHead> i might know
#2701 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> why does no one who tries to get that reference _ever_ get it right?
#2702 [15:49] <Undoubtedly> haha
#2703 [15:49] <VoxelHead> silence!
#2704 [15:49] <Kealper> did i fail at typing it? lol
#2705 [15:50] <Undoubtedly> no I think that's right
#2706 [15:50] <Kealper> it's been ages since i've read the book :/
#2707 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> 42 isn't "the meaning of life, the universe, and everything"
#2708 [15:50] <Undoubtedly> I'm actually reading the series now :)
#2709 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> it's the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
#2710 [15:50] <Kealper> drat
#2711 [15:50] <Undoubtedly> but what is the ultimate question?
#2712 [15:50] <Undoubtedly> we were so close
#2713 [15:51] <Michl3545> what is 6*9
#2714 [15:51] <VoxelHead> Michl3545: honestly, brain the size of a planet and all you can do is ask me to calculate 6*9?
#2715 [15:51] <VoxelHead> it's 54
#2716 [15:51] <VoxelHead> point 5
#2717 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> and VoxelHead isn't anywhere near Deep Thought in terms of computational power, much less Earth Mark II.
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#2719 [15:51] <Undoubtedly> man we need a DeepThoughtBot
#2720 [15:52] <mib_osimoq> Hello, I purchased the gift but cannot redeem it. I get a message that states the code is already redeemed or invalid. Any suggestions?
#2721 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_osimoq: where did you get the gift code from?
#2722 [15:53] <mib_osimoq> From the mindgraft web site
#2723 [15:53] <Kealper> also are you typing it correctly? you need the "-" in there
#2724 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> that's unfortunate. The only legitimate seles point of gift codes is the Minecraft site. I don't know who runs mindgraft.
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#2726 [15:54] <Michl3545> mindgraft sounds rather dangerous
#2727 [15:54] <gretchen> hi again its me with the lagg problem
#2728 [15:54] <Kealper> ^
#2729 [15:54] <mib_osimoq> Yes, I included the - and have typed it correctly. I still have not gotten the email but got the code online.
#2730 [15:54] <Undoubtedly> mindgraft sounds like the next step from lasik
#2731 [15:54] <mib_osimoq> LOL "Mindcraft"
#2732 [15:54] <gretchen> i found out that i am using the "intel graphigs " card
#2733 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> gretchen gpu/intel
#2734 [15:54] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2735 [15:54] <gretchen> but i dont know how to switch to the nvidia
#2736 [15:55] <mib_osimoq> Is there an email address I can use for help from the company?
#2737 [15:55] <Michl3545> ??> mib_osimoq payment
#2738 [15:55] <Morrolan> gretchen: You were here earlier, right?
#2739 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mib_osimoq: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2740 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mib_osimoq: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#2741 [15:55] <gretchen> yeah
#2742 [15:55] <mib_osimoq> It has been a few days
#2743 [15:55] <Michl3545> payment@mojang.com
#2744 [15:56] <gretchen> i dont know how to enable the nvidia grapfigh card
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#2746 [15:57] <gretchen> any1 can help???
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#2748 [15:57] <Morrolan> gretchen: Ask your expert, he built your laptop after all.
#2749 [15:57] <Morrolan> gretchen: Only thing we could do (if at all) would be guessing.
#2750 [15:57] <Michl3545> ?? google
#2751 [15:57] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#2752 [15:58] <greenboy> dose anyone know were to get a texturepack on a website other than minecraft fourums cuz it wont work for me
#2753 [15:58] <titegtnodI> ?? google
#2754 [15:58] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#2755 [15:58] <mib_osimoq> OK, thanks, I willl email and let them handle it...
#2756 [15:58] <Undoubtedly> hahaha
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#2759 [15:58] <titegtnodI> \o/
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#2761 [15:58] <greenboy> but everything leads to minecraft forums for me
#2762 [15:59] <Morrolan> greenboy: www.planetminecraft.com
#2763 [15:59] <Lunchbox> Since the forums are being worked on any one know how to stop the lighting glitches and huge world holes?
#2764 [15:59] <Morrolan> greenboy: They have a nice texturepack section
#2765 [15:59] <greenboy> thank you
#2766 [15:59] <mib_osimoq> Yes me, got gift card code but cannot redeem.
#2767 [15:59] <mib_osimoq> Got it
#2768 [15:59] <titegtnodI> I think the only way EVERYTHING would lead to the minecraft forums would be if you did "inurl:minecraftforums.net"
#2769 [15:59] <pheleas_frog> When I go to play mindcraft no image loads. How do I fix this? I am on google chrome. it does that same tihng on safari and firefox too.
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#2771 [16:00] <Michl3545> pheleas_frog: do you have java installed?
#2772 [16:00] <pheleas_frog> yes
#2773 [16:00] <titegtnodI> 32bit or 64bit?
#2774 [16:01] <pheleas_frog> does anyone else have or had this problem?
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#2776 [16:01] <titegtnodI> pheleas_frog: I'm sure someone has. Have you tried downloading the launcher?
#2777 [16:02] <greenboy> if i wan to get a mod do i put it in my texture pack folder when i go to %appdata% ????
#2778 [16:02] <pheleas_frog> I have and with that it says it cant connect to mindcraft.net and that I didnt download it.
#2779 [16:02] <Michl3545> ??> greenboy mods
#2780 [16:02] <VoxelHead> greenboy: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2781 [16:02] <VoxelHead> greenboy: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2782 [16:02] <titegtnodI> pheleas_frog: Firewall?
#2783 [16:02] <Michl3545> ??> pheleas_frog win/reinst
#2784 [16:02] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#2786 [16:03] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2787 [16:03] <titegtnodI> He hasn't gotten Minecraft downloaded though :S
#2788 [16:03] <JacobC> I can't find the hardware requirements anywhere
#2789 [16:03] <pheleas_frog> I could see if its a fire wall. and Im on a mac
#2790 [16:03] <Michl3545> scratch that then
#2791 [16:04] <Michl3545> ??> JacobC requirements
#2792 [16:04] <VoxelHead> JacobC: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2793 [16:04] <Morrolan> Have a nice day
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#2796 [16:05] <VoxelHead> bye battlekid
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#2798 [16:05] <JacobC> VoxelHead: thanks
#2799 [16:05] * VoxelHead kicked minecraftlolftw from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: Ban evasion (austinpowers))
#2800 [16:05] <Undoubtedly> derp
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#2802 [16:07] <super2918> hi
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#2804 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> why does that guy keep trying, I wonder.
#2805 [16:08] <super2918> haha
#2806 [16:08] <Michl3545> he has a thirst that only trolling can satisfy
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#2808 [16:08] <super2918> my server doesnt work
#2809 [16:09] <Undoubtedly> super2918: how so?
#2810 [16:09] <super2918> can anyone help?
#2811 [16:09] <super2918> like
#2812 [16:09] <super2918> i can connect but my friends cant
#2813 [16:09] <pheleas_frog> mindcraft doesnt work period on my computer lol
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#2815 [16:09] <Michl3545> super2918: what ip are you giving out?
#2816 [16:09] <mr_trousers> Hi
#2817 [16:09] <Undoubtedly> mr_trousers: o/
#2818 [16:09] <super2918> the ipv4 i think
#2819 [16:09] <mr_trousers> What´s up with all minecraft sites down
#2820 [16:10] <Undoubtedly> mr_trousers: are you referring to the forums?
#2821 [16:10] <mr_trousers> yeah...curse Network seems awsome
#2822 [16:10] <Michl3545> super2918: are you giving out 67.184.160.183?
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#2825 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> mr_trousers: not all sites are down
#2826 [16:10] <mr_trousers> What happened? They run it on Windows XP and the computer got a virus?
#2827 [16:10] <Undoubtedly> mr_trousers: they've been having technical issues. check with #minecraftforums for more info
#2828 [16:10] <super2918> no
#2829 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft.net for example, is still up, and that's all that matters, really
#2830 [16:10] <super2918> wait pm me
#2831 [16:11] <mr_trousers> No...forum is what mathers
#2832 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> Not to us.
#2833 [16:11] <Michl3545> super2918: type !myip
#2834 [16:11] <mr_trousers> For us?
#2835 [16:11] <mr_trousers> you men u?
#2836 [16:11] <super2918> ok
#2837 [16:11] <Undoubtedly> mr_trousers: us
#2838 [16:11] <Kealper> mr_trousers: we're not affiliated with the forums or the wiki, so we don't really care if they are down
#2839 [16:12] <mr_trousers> But don´t u guys visit? I´m not affiliated with them either but i read it
#2840 [16:12] <Undoubtedly> mr_trousers: we as a channel don't concern ourselves with it
#2841 [16:12] <DreadLindwyrm> It'll come back up when it comes back up.
#2842 [16:13] <mr_trousers> Yeah...still think it´s sucks how it has been down so long
#2843 [16:13] <Kealper> doesn't suck for me, they have nothing i want
#2844 [16:13] <Kealper> i didn't even know it was down until the flood of people came in here asking about it
#2845 [16:13] <Undoubtedly> samesies
#2846 [16:13] <mr_trousers> you don´t like Minecraft?
#2847 [16:14] <Kealper> now you're just putting words into my mouth
#2848 [16:14] <Undoubtedly> ರ_ರ
#2849 [16:14] <mr_trousers> Well, i don´t play Minecraft without mods...it´s to boring vanilla
#2850 [16:14] <Kealper> the minecraft forums is not minecraft, the two are completely separate, run by different people and everything
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#2852 [16:15] <Michl3545> !check 76.16.221.181
#2853 [16:15] <mr_trousers> Quit
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#2855 [16:15] <Kealper> /fail
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#2858 [16:16] <redsox> i keep getting a black screen on minecraft for mac and ive tried deleting the bin folder what do i do?
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#2860 [16:18] <blaphmat> i need to know why I have not yet received any game from this site -
#2861 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> redsox: delete all folders other than 'saves'.
#2862 [16:19] <Undoubtedly> uh oh bot rage
#2863 [16:19] <Undoubtedly> he's becoming self aware
#2864 [16:19] * VoxelHead is now known as SkyNet
#2864 [16:19] <redsox> all folders in the bin follder?
#2865 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> redsox: all folders in the minecraft folder except for saves
#2866 [16:20] <Undoubtedly> too slow!
#2867 [16:20] <Undoubtedly> and that's why humans will be victorious
#2868 [16:21] <redsox> i dont have a saves folder
#2869 [16:21] <Michl3545> then you don't have anything to not delete
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#2871 [16:21] <Michl3545> del *
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#2873 [16:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2874 [16:22] <redsox> while what do i do to get rid of black screen?
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#2876 [16:22] <Undoubtedly> it has been pretty revolving-door today
#2877 [16:23] <DreadLindwyrm> Delete all the folders (except the one with saves) and launch minecraft, and force an update. That m ight help
#2878 [16:23] <Undoubtedly> ITNERACTION?
#2879 [16:23] <Undoubtedly> f that noise
#2880 [16:24] <Undoubtedly> mom doesn't let me IRK
#2881 [16:24] <Undoubtedly> that's where chris hansen lives
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#2883 [16:26] <Katie> Alright. So I am running FireFox on Windows Vista (terrible, I know) and I cannot log in with the launcher nor play in browser. When I try to log in it just tells me "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" and gives me the option to try again, which never works, or play offline which it claims isn't downloaded.
#2884 [16:26] <redsox> i did what you said and know minecraft is stuck at down loading
#2885 [16:27] <Katie> When I try to play in browser the Java looks like it's loading and then goes white and claims error. This only does this on my computer, I have played on others
#2886 [16:27] <Katie> and no i dont
#2887 [16:27] <Kealper> Katie: are you absolutely positive you don't?
#2888 [16:28] <Katie> nope. gingersgetitdone no punctuation
#2889 [16:28] <Kealper> is that your computer's profile username or your minecraft username?
#2890 [16:28] <Katie> ....both...?
#2891 [16:28] <Kealper> because i mean your computer profile username, not your minecraft name
#2892 [16:28] <redsox> i deleted everything except the saves and now minecraft is stuck at done loading
#2893 [16:28] <Kealper> windows logon name, windows profile name, etc
#2894 [16:29] <Katie> nope. none of that.
#2895 [16:29] <Kealper> Katie: dod you have any antivirus software installed?
#2896 [16:29] <Katie> yes, but at the advice of a friend of mine i took down the firewall and it still didn't work
#2897 [16:29] <Kealper> hmm
#2898 [16:29] <Kealper> ??> Katie win/dxdiag
#2899 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Katie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2900 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Katie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2902 [16:31] <Katie> pardon my computer illiteracy, what is an IRC channel?
#2903 [16:31] <Michl3545> this is!
#2904 [16:31] <Kealper> Katie: this is
#2905 [16:31] <Undoubtedly> this is!
#2906 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> Katie: you're in one right now.
#2907 [16:31] <Michl3545> #bread is an irc channel
#2908 [16:31] * Undoubtedly is.
#2908 [16:31] <Katie> HAHA oh
#2909 [16:31] <VoxelHead> You dare tell me what i already know?!?!?!
#2910 [16:31] <Kealper> #bread is a crappy irc channel D:
#2911 [16:31] <Michl3545> !love
#2912 [16:32] <redsox> now minecraft is stuck at done loading?
#2913 [16:32] <ddl303> hey guys i just reset my router and for now when my mc server is up no one not even me can connect to the external ip
#2914 [16:32] <ddl303> i forwarded my ports
#2915 [16:32] <ddl303> but not even i can connect to my external ip
#2916 [16:32] <ddl303> how do i fix it
#2917 [16:32] <Michl3545> ddl303: what do you think your external ip is?
#2918 [16:32] <Katie> it's telling me that dxdiag has detected that there may have been a problem accessing the system information the the last time this program was used, would i like to bypass the system information this time?
#2919 [16:33] <Kealper> Katie: uhh...no, if it can get it, that could be useful
#2920 [16:33] <ddl303> its the address off of whatismyip.com
#2921 [16:33] <ddl303> and ipchicken.com
#2922 [16:33] <VoxelHead> ehehehehehehe chicken!! I'm gonna eat you!
#2923 [16:33] <Michl3545> mkay
#2924 [16:33] <Michl3545> ignore voxelhead, he is a bot
#2925 [16:33] <Michl3545> but a useful one
#2926 [16:34] <ddl303> lol
#2927 [16:34] <Michl3545> ddl303: what about your firewall?
#2928 [16:34] <Kealper> Michl3545: if vox gets in the way if the channel is packed, just tell it to shut up and it will be quiet for a few minutes
#2929 [16:34] <ddl303> well it used to work
#2930 [16:34] <ddl303> the server did all i did was reset my routers
#2931 [16:35] <Michl3545> Kealper: cool
#2932 [16:35] <ddl303> none of my firewall settings
#2933 [16:35] <Kealper> ddl303: and you redid the port forwarding and everything in your router?
#2934 [16:35] <ddl303> yes
#2935 [16:35] <Michl3545> AHA it is DHCP
#2936 [16:35] <Michl3545> your local ip changed i bet
#2937 [16:35] <ddl303> yea
#2938 [16:36] <Michl3545> check your local ip and make sure it is right
#2939 [16:36] <ddl303> done
#2940 [16:36] <Katie> did i do it right? http://pastebin.com/WLjhxDXc
#2941 [16:36] <ddl303> its the same as whatismyip.com
#2942 [16:36] <Michl3545> no
#2943 [16:36] <Michl3545> that is not your local ip
#2944 [16:36] <ddl303> 192.168.1.1?
#2945 [16:36] <ddl303> u mean the one in cmd?
#2946 [16:36] <Michl3545> that is your router
#2947 [16:37] <Michl3545> yes, but the other one
#2948 [16:37] <ddl303> which one
#2949 [16:37] <Kealper> Katie: yes, 1 sec
#2950 [16:37] <ddl303> where do i check this
#2951 [16:37] <Michl3545> ddl303: open command prompt
#2952 [16:38] <Kealper> Katie: do you have a Wacom pad plugged in to your computer right now?
#2953 [16:38] <Michl3545> ddl303: and use the command: ipconfig /all
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#2955 [16:38] <Kealper> cuntface: change your name
#2956 [16:38] * AuBot kicked Kealper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
#2957 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Cunt.
#2958 [16:38] * AuBot kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#2960 [16:38] <Undoubtedly> special
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#2964 [16:42] <Kealper> Katie: hmm...probably not that then...
#2965 [16:42] <Undoubtedly> AuBot is gone, this channel is dead to me
#2966 [16:43] <Kealper> ??> Katie gpu/intel
#2967 [16:43] <VoxelHead> Katie: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2968 [16:43] <Kealper> Katie: try that, it should make the browser version work
#2969 [16:43] <Undoubtedly> lol ok so what is #bread
#2970 [16:43] <Kealper> bread's channel
#2971 [16:44] <Undoubtedly> straight and to the point
#2972 [16:44] <Undoubtedly> fair enough
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#2974 [16:44] <Kealper> lol
#2975 [16:44] <Katie> aww geez. i actually have to know this stuff ><
#2976 [16:44] <ddl303> nope didnt fix anything
#2977 [16:44] <ddl303> not even i can connect on my external ip
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#2979 [16:44] <Kealper> Katie: hold on, i'll look for the one you need
#2980 [16:45] <ddl303> i can connect with 127.0.0.1 but not my ip
#2981 [16:45] <Michl3545> ddl303: sounds like a port forwarding issue
#2982 [16:45] <Katie> kealper: you are a god
#2983 [16:45] <Kealper> ddl303: can you connect with your internal ip?
#2984 [16:45] <Michl3545> !check 67.236.65.54
#2985 [16:45] <ddl303> ummm
#2986 [16:45] <ddl303> thats what i tryed
#2987 [16:46] <Michl3545> ddl303: your internal ip is 192.168.1.101
#2988 [16:46] <ddl303> yes i know
#2989 [16:46] <Michl3545> oh
#2990 [16:47] <ddl303> i can connect with that ip
#2991 [16:47] <Kealper> Katie: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=19936&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Laptop+Chipsets&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#2992 [16:47] <ddl303> just not with my external so other people cant connect wdf
#2993 [16:47] <Kealper> massive link is massive
#2994 [16:48] <ddl303> do i need to have a static ip
#2995 [16:50] <ddl303> any clue what da problem iees
#2996 [16:50] <Michl3545> it is your port forwarding
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#2998 [16:51] <ddl303> even if my ports werent forwarded wouldnt i be able to connect on my own pc?
#2999 [16:51] <Michl3545> no
#3000 [16:51] <ddl303> k
#3001 [16:52] <Kealper> if you can't connect to 192.168.1.101 then you have either touched the server-ip line inside server.properties or your internal IP does not end in 101
#3002 [16:52] <Michl3545> being able to connect on loopback and local ip but not external ip is a sure sign of portforwarding or firewall problem
#3003 [16:52] <ddl303> i can connect with 192.168.1.101
#3004 [16:52] <Kealper> oh
#3005 [16:52] <Undoubtedly> Michl3545: an internal IP like that should be able to connect without port forwarding
#3006 [16:52] <Kealper> then yeah, your port forwarding isn't set up right
#3007 [16:52] * Kealper just pretends Undoubtedly didn't say that
#3007 [16:53] <ddl303> ok well i guess i didnt forward them right
#3008 [16:53] <Michl3545> 25565 is the port
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#3010 [16:53] <ddl303> i have 2 routers can someone try to forward this over teamviewer?
#3011 [16:53] <Michl3545> double
#3012 [16:53] <Undoubtedly> yeah nvm brainfart
#3013 [16:53] * Kealper refuses to tackled a double nat
#3013 [16:54] <Kealper> tackle*
#3014 [16:54] <Undoubtedly> it's almost 5pm here lol
#3015 [16:54] * Undoubtedly is behind a double NAT >.<
#3015 [16:55] <Michl3545> Undoubtedly: you help him then. ?? double-nat
#3016 [16:55] <Undoubtedly> lol I run my server off a VDS for that reason :)
#3017 [16:55] <Kealper> ??< double-nat
#3018 [16:55] <Michl3545> lol
#3019 [16:56] <Michl3545> ddl303: so one router goes through the other?
#3020 [16:56] <ddl303> well my modem is actually a router
#3021 [16:56] <ddl303> its a zyxel
#3022 [16:56] <Kealper> then why use a separate router?
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#3024 [16:57] <Kealper> just for wireless or something?
#3025 [16:57] <VoxelHead> orless wire
#3026 [16:57] <ddl303> because we have multiple computers in my trailer
#3027 [16:57] <sockmister> hi again its me with the lagg problem :)
#3028 [16:57] <sockmister> i was here earlyer today
#3029 [16:57] * Michl3545 sets phaser to stun
#3029 [16:57] <ddl303> and my zyxel router only has one slot
#3030 [16:58] <Kealper> ddl303: then plug your computer into one of the available ports on your modem, instead of going though the stand-alone router
#3031 [16:58] <Kealper> oh
#3032 [16:58] <Kealper> then it shouldn't be a router
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#3034 [16:58] <ddl303> it is
#3035 [16:58] <Kealper> vox, set phasers to stun
#3036 [16:58] <Undoubtedly> it probably is a router, my parent's is setup the same way
#3037 [16:59] <Undoubtedly> parents'?
#3038 [16:59] <Undoubtedly> parent's'?
#3039 [16:59] <sockmister> i really cant find anything there can help fix my Graphic card
#3040 [16:59] <Undoubtedly> whatever f grammar
#3041 [16:59] <ddl303> the modem is EQ-660ER ADSL
#3042 [16:59] <sockmister> any1 help????
#3043 [16:59] <Kealper> parent's implies one parent owns something, parents' implies many parents who own something
#3044 [16:59] <ddl303> will brb
#3045 [17:00] <sockmister> ????
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#3047 [17:00] <Undoubtedly> sockmister: can you give us more information?
#3048 [17:01] <sockmister> yeah i was here earliyer today
#3049 [17:01] <Undoubtedly> sockmister: I wasn't :)
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#3051 [17:01] <thufman> i can't run my minecraft
#3052 [17:01] <Kealper> sockmister: we can't really help you with the issue you have, you will have to take it to a local computer nerd or something
#3053 [17:02] <thufman> i believe i lost some .jar files
#3054 [17:02] <Kealper> ??> thufman win/reinst
#3055 [17:02] <VoxelHead> thufman: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3056 [17:02] <sockmister> and i was told that my graphic card wasnt the right one and also that i got two graphic cards and i cant find out how to choose my nvidia card instead of the intel card can u help?? :)
#3057 [17:02] <Kealper> brb
#3058 [17:02] <VoxelHead> thufman: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3059 [17:02] <VoxelHead> choose compact disc players
#3060 [17:02] <Undoubtedly> oh it's that guy
#3061 [17:02] <sockmister> haha :)
#3062 [17:03] <thufman> i got a macc
#3063 [17:03] <Undoubtedly> yeah man we can't really help with a hardware problem here, you'll need to go to a shop or ask your expert guy
#3064 [17:03] <thufman> so i delete everything but the save files?
#3065 [17:03] <VoxelHead> Mmm Tonux.
#3066 [17:03] <Michl3545> ??> thufman mac/reinst
#3067 [17:03] <VoxelHead> thufman: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3068 [17:03] <VoxelHead> thufman: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3069 [17:03] <sockmister> oka ill just wait to tomorrow THANK YOU SO MUCH for all your help it was verry use full <3
#3070 [17:05] <thufman> thanks so much VoxelHead
#3071 [17:05] <VoxelHead> ok
#3072 [17:05] <thufman> it worked
#3073 [17:06] * Michl3545 chuckles
#3073 [17:06] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3074 [17:06] <Michl3545> voxelhead, are you a bot?
#3075 [17:06] <Undoubtedly> sock will be back in an hour lol
#3076 [17:06] <VoxelHead> yes
#3077 [17:06] <VoxelHead> wait! i mean no
#3078 [17:06] <Undoubtedly> queue monty python skit
#3079 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> Undoubtedly: "cue".
#3080 [17:07] <Undoubtedly> damnut!
#3081 [17:07] <VoxelHead> \o/ damnut
#3082 [17:07] <Undoubtedly> long day lol
#3083 [17:07] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3084 [17:07] <Awesomeness> I'm back from my slumber.
#3085 [17:07] <Michl3545> lol@vox's lol
#3086 [17:08] <KevyB> aint y'all glad how minecraftforum sold out to curse, sad, oh and i just came to tell ya that there is no "hardware failure" curse is being buttraped atm so i suggest that anyone with an ID changes their pass on other services that they use them on aswell asap [;
#3087 [17:08] <KevyB> i feel nice today
#3088 [17:08] <KevyB> so i thought id just warn ye
#3089 [17:09] <KevyB> matt is gonna hate me for sayin this lmao
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#3091 [17:10] <Michl3545> ddosed<>compromised
#3092 [17:10] <Undoubtedly> yeah very different
#3093 [17:10] <ddl303> im back
#3094 [17:10] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#3095 [17:10] <mib_jjivsg> hey can anyone help me
#3096 [17:10] <TheNytangel> Beans beans the magical fruit. The more the eat the more you toot. The more you toot the better you feel. So eat some beans with every meal!
#3097 [17:10] <ddl303> chicken
#3098 [17:10] <VoxelHead> aw... your little robot toy is broken
#3099 [17:11] <Undoubtedly> bot nipples are always hard
#3100 [17:11] <mib_jjivsg> my computer wont load minecraft i click on in browser and it goes to minecraft beta but nothing happens
#3101 [17:12] <Michl3545> mib_jjivsg: do you have java?
#3102 [17:12] <TheNytangel> Why is my bedroom always so friggen hot?
#3103 [17:12] <Michl3545> MEH
#3104 [17:12] <Michl3545> TheNytangel: is your computer in it, by chance?
#3105 [17:12] <TheNytangel> My laptop, yes
#3106 [17:13] <TheNytangel> And I got a cooling fan for under it yesterday :D
#3107 [17:13] <Undoubtedly> there is some buzz going around that lulzsec is targeting curse. could be interesting.
#3108 [17:13] <Michl3545> lulzsec is way less cool than anonymous
#3109 [17:13] <Kealper> as much as i want that to be true, i'll have to ask that rumors be kept to a minimum
#3110 [17:14] <Michl3545> bowler hats :)
#3111 [17:14] <TheNytangel> Hey everyone! lulzsec is targeting curse!
#3112 [17:14] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#3113 [17:14] <TheNytangel> Oops..
#3114 [17:14] <Undoubtedly> if it's not a rumor yet we can totally start it
#3115 [17:14] <Undoubtedly> everyone go
#3116 [17:14] <Michl3545> >:(
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#3118 [17:14] * TheNytangel goes to #bukkie
#3118 [17:14] <TheNytangel> Fail
#3119 [17:14] <Undoubtedly> haha
#3120 [17:14] * TheNytangel goes to #bukkit
#3120 [17:14] <Divingwind> Hello
#3121 [17:14] <TheNytangel> But
#3122 [17:15] <TheNytangel> Before I go to #bukkit, I need to poop seriously bad. So brb
#3123 [17:15] <Divingwind> can someone help me maybe?
#3124 [17:15] <TheNytangel> ??> Divingwind ask
#3125 [17:15] <VoxelHead> Divingwind: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3126 [17:15] <Undoubtedly> Divingwind: ask your question
#3127 [17:15] <VoxelHead> Divingwind: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3128 [17:15] * TheNytangel farts
#3128 [17:15] <Michl3545> maybe
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#3130 [17:15] <TheNytangel> ??> sprexx ask
#3131 [17:15] <VoxelHead> sprexx: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3132 [17:15] <VoxelHead> sprexx: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3133 [17:15] <Divingwind> well not sure if its a bug in minecraft or me but when i go to lay down tracks sometimes the track switches work some times they dont what might be a reason if a switch doesn't work?
#3134 [17:16] <TheNytangel> It needs to be the right track the redstone is pointing at..
#3135 [17:16] <TheNytangel> Erm.. Ok, brb now
#3136 [17:16] <Divingwind> i have that, i have 4 groups of tracks all the same while some switch like they should some don't
#3137 [17:17] <Michl3545> are they all facing the same direction?
#3138 [17:17] <Divingwind> yes
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#3140 [17:17] <Divingwind> they are set up as T-tracks
#3141 [17:17] <Michl3545> hmm
#3142 [17:18] <Michl3545> try remaking the corners
#3143 [17:18] <Katie> Kealper: I'm back! Installed the driver, restarted, etc... still cannot connect to minecraft.net, still cannot get java to work in browser
#3144 [17:18] <Undoubtedly> ok work is over, I'm off to home
#3145 [17:18] <Undoubtedly> you guys have a good one :)
#3146 [17:19] <Divingwind> i do that, i would lay out one set of track and then lay a second track next to it up to where i want the switch but when I go to switch the tracks the don't
#3147 [17:19] <sprexx> I have a problem with minecraft, the game does not run due to error 7fe0271. He says to upgrade the video card driver. already updated the game and still not run
#3148 [17:19] <Michl3545> Katie: it could be the hosts file
#3149 [17:19] <TheNytangel> Back
#3150 [17:19] <TheNytangel> My poop was green
#3151 [17:19] <TheNytangel> Is that good?
#3152 [17:19] <Divingwind> no
#3153 [17:19] <Undoubtedly> eat more fiber
#3154 [17:20] <Michl3545> TheNytangel: you shall die within the week
#3155 [17:20] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#3156 [17:20] <Divingwind> lol
#3157 [17:20] <TheNytangel> Am I beating VoxelHead's randmom stupidity?
#3158 [17:20] <Katie> Michl3545: and how would i go about rectifying that problem
#3159 [17:20] <TheNytangel> If not, I'll try harder :)
#3160 [17:20] <Michl3545> ??> katie win/hosts
#3161 [17:20] <VoxelHead> katie: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#3162 [17:20] <VoxelHead> katie: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#3163 [17:21] <sprexx> I have a problem with minecraft, the game does not run due to error 7fe0271. He says to upgrade the video card driver. already updated the game and still not run
#3164 [17:23] <Michl3545> TheNytangel: have your competition with voxelhead in ##voxelhead
#3165 [17:23] <Katie> http://pastebin.com/bUwCtYuL
#3166 [17:23] <sprexx> I have a problem with minecraft, the game does not run due to error 7fe0271. He says to upgrade the video card driver. already updated the game and still not run
#3167 [17:24] <Katie> sprexx tried restarting?
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#3169 [17:24] <sprexx> restarting?
#3170 [17:24] <sprexx> yes
#3171 [17:25] <Katie> have you tried smearing the screen with mayonnaise while singing "Smooth Criminal"?
#3172 [17:25] <Sviddu> would anybody happen to know how can i delete my minecraft profile?
#3173 [17:26] <Sviddu> on minecraft.net
#3174 [17:26] <Katie> voxelhead michl3545 http://pastebin.com/bUwCtYuL
#3175 [17:27] <sprexx> I don't understand why the game can't run he is saing Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. but I'v aupdated the card driver
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#3177 [17:27] <Michl3545> Katie: your hosts file is fine
#3178 [17:29] <Katie> LAPTOP! Y U NO PLAY MINECRAFT
#3179 [17:29] <TheNytangel> KATIE! Y U SHOUT
#3180 [17:30] * mib_0w9jjx [mib_0w9jjx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3181 [17:30] <Katie> i are angry
#3182 [17:30] <TheNytangel> I know you are, but what am I?
#3183 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> Vox, give Katie a primer on subject-verb agreement.
#3184 [17:31] * VoxelHead gives Katie a primer on subject-verb agreement.
#3184 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Vox, give DopeGhoti a hug
#3185 [17:31] <VoxelHead> *huggles with dopeghoti*
#3186 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> *squeaky*
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#3189 [17:32] <TheNytangel> Vox, give me a refridgerator
#3190 [17:32] <VoxelHead> *gives TheNytangel a refridgerator*
#3191 [17:32] <sprexx> hey
#3192 [17:32] * TheNytangel puts his bedroom in it
#3192 [17:32] <sprexx> I have a problem
#3193 [17:32] <TheNytangel> ??> sprexx ask
#3194 [17:32] <Michl3545> vox, give TheNytangel a high five
#3195 [17:32] <sprexx> my mine craft don't run
#3196 [17:32] <VoxelHead> sprexx: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3197 [17:32] <VoxelHead> sprexx: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3198 [17:32] * VoxelHead gives TheNytangel a high five
#3198 [17:32] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead has lag
#3199 [17:33] <ddl303> ok so i was on earlier and u said i had a port forwarding issue and so i just went to portforward.com and forwarded both my routers and set a static ip
#3200 [17:33] <ddl303> and still the server will not work
#3201 [17:33] <sprexx> the minecraft is saing I need updating the video card drive, and i'v already updated
#3202 [17:33] <TheNytangel> Static IP? Non-sense
#3203 [17:33] <sprexx> and still saing that
#3204 [17:33] <Katie> I apologize that my frustration caused my normally acceptable grammar to slide to subpar.
#3205 [17:33] <TheNytangel> ??>> sprexx winn/resinst
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#3207 [17:33] <TheNytangel> ??>> sprexx win/resinst
#3208 [17:33] <TheNytangel> ??>> sprexx win/reinst
#3209 [17:33] <sprexx> what is that?
#3210 [17:33] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3211 [17:34] <ddl303> any idea what i can do?
#3212 [17:34] <TheNytangel> Port forward.
#3213 [17:34] <ddl303> i did
#3214 [17:34] <sprexx> thaks
#3215 [17:34] <TheNytangel> How?
#3216 [17:34] <ddl303> do u have team viewer
#3217 [17:34] <TheNytangel> Yes
#3218 [17:35] * TheNytangel runs and turns other computer on
#3218 [17:37] <TheNytangel> Hold on.. almost on..
#3219 [17:37] <ddl303> k
#3220 [17:37] <Michl3545> TheNytangel: he has got some weird router stuff. posibbly double-nat
#3221 [17:37] <TheNytangel> Easy :D
#3222 [17:37] <TheNytangel> I was double natted
#3223 [17:38] <TheNytangel> Almost..
#3224 [17:38] <Michl3545> somehow double the nat makes for four times the trouble. exponential!
#3225 [17:38] <TheNytangel> Erm..
#3226 [17:38] <TheNytangel> nat^2
#3227 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> it's no trouble if it's done properly
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#3229 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> all you need to do is keep your subnets straight
#3230 [17:39] <Michl3545> lol, some of the people here barely keep their own ip straight
#3231 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> that's why we have this handy form:
#3232 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> ?? double-nat
#3233 [17:40] <VoxelHead> double-nat: Fill in the blanks: Outer router WAN IP:___.___.___.___; Outer router LAN IP: ___.___.___.___; Inner router WAN IP:___.___.___.___; PC LAN IP:___.___.___.___
#3234 [17:40] <xolotl> I always make sure to at least quadruple-NAT
#3235 [17:40] <xolotl> Extra security, see
#3236 [17:40] <xolotl> Plus I'm very concerned with IP scarcity on my home network
#3237 [17:40] <Michl3545> O.o confuse them viruses
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#3239 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> obscurity is the best security.
#3240 [17:40] <Michl3545> ??< virus
#3241 [17:41] <linux4ever> hi all
#3242 [17:41] <VoxelHead> You! Serial number and primary function!
#3243 [17:41] <linux4ever> Is it possible that waterfall elevators stopped working with the last update?
#3244 [17:41] <linux4ever> Thanks in advance
#3245 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> linux4ever: Yes.
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#3247 [17:42] <linux4ever> DopeGhoti: Why did they do this?
#3248 [17:42] <linux4ever> ;-(
#3249 [17:42] <xales> It was a bug. They fixed it.
#3250 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> ^ this.
#3251 [17:43] <linux4ever> :-(
#3252 [17:44] <linux4ever> any other idea, how to get easyly up to my StarDestroyer?
#3253 [17:44] <linux4ever> :-)
#3254 [17:44] <VoxelHead> :)
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#3256 [17:44] <Michl3545> ladder?
#3257 [17:45] <Michl3545> by waterfall elevator, do you mean with boats, or with signs?
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#3259 [17:45] <linux4ever> Michl3545: Boats
#3260 [17:45] <linux4ever> Michl3545: SIgns???
#3261 [17:45] <Michl3545> try the sign version
#3262 [17:45] <Michl3545> it be amazing
#3263 [17:45] <linux4ever> how to?
#3264 [17:45] <linux4ever> :-D
#3265 [17:45] <Michl3545> hmm, i wish i could show you on my old server...
#3266 [17:46] <Michl3545> let me look for a link
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#3268 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> I'd show you on my server, but it's invite-only
#3269 [17:46] <ddl303> ok
#3270 [17:46] <ddl303> ima try my server now
#3271 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> STFW for water ladder
#3272 [17:47] <Nev> I've been trying to buy minecraft the past two days and i keep getting a message saying "Credit/debit card deposits disabled for the next 24 hours". Can anyone help me out?
#3273 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Michl3545, I think I did it
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#3275 [17:47] <xales> Nev: Try a different payment method
#3276 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Nev, they are clearly disabled
#3277 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3278 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> Nev: use PayPal
#3279 [17:47] <linux4ever> DopeGhoti: OK
#3280 [17:47] <linux4ever> DopeGhoti: please PM me the link
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#3282 [17:48] <TheNytangel> https://shouldichangemypassword.com/
#3283 [17:48] <Nev> Ive tried using a prepaid card as another payment option. Is paypal the only way i can buy the game without having a problem?
#3284 [17:48] <TheNytangel> Nev, credit careds
#3285 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: it is my fond hope that that web site consists solely of the word 'Yes'.
#3286 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#3287 [17:48] <Nev> That was my other choice. Ive tried both. I keep getting the same error.
#3288 [17:48] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3289 [17:49] <TheNytangel> Lol DopeGhoti
#3290 [17:50] <minecraftidiot> anyone experience version error access denied message?
#3291 [17:50] <Nev> Ive given up on the prepaid card. Ive been trying to use my credit card. But its telling me i have to wait 24 hours. Is there some work around to this?
#3292 [17:50] <ddl303> TheNyt my server still wont work
#3293 [17:50] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, r-click and view source
#3294 [17:50] <TheNytangel> It looks like your passwords may be safe. No instances of compromise are recorded in this database. However, it's good practice to change your critical passwords regularly and ensure they are not re-used across multiple sites.
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#3296 [17:52] <TheNytangel> I use mine on every website
#3297 [17:52] <TheNytangel> Except hotmail
#3298 [17:52] <Michl3545> linux4ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu9Ly99SCE4
#3299 [17:52] <TheNytangel> They work no more
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#3301 [17:53] <linux4ever> Michl3545: Thx. I'll look at it.
#3302 [17:54] <Nev> Anyone around that can answer my previous question?
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#3305 [17:55] <minecraftidiot> can anyone tell me how to over come "appData/.minecraft/version/error" access denied problem?
#3306 [17:55] <bellows> hey ive got a question. i cant get the game to download to my desktop or anything, so i always have to have internet on to play.....??????/
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#3308 [17:55] <xales> bellows: Why can't you?
#3309 [17:55] <TheNytangel> bellows, save it to the desktop
#3310 [17:56] <bellows> i dont know, its just not wantin to download. i tried saving it there
#3311 [17:56] <bellows> and it just never shows up
#3312 [17:56] <xales> Are you using Internet Explorer?
#3313 [17:56] <bellows> yes
#3314 [17:56] <xales> ??> bellows win/ie
#3315 [17:56] <VoxelHead> bellows: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#3316 [17:56] <VoxelHead> bellows: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#3317 [17:56] <linux4ever> Michl3545: Do you need the ladders, after the elevator is done?
#3318 [17:56] <minecraftidiot> bellows, I have the same issue and an error for "appData/.minecraft/version/error" too. It works on my office pc (don't ask) but not my home laptop.
#3319 [17:56] <xales> ??> minecraftidiot win/reinst
#3320 [17:56] <VoxelHead> minecraftidiot: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3321 [17:56] <VoxelHead> minecraftidiot: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3322 [17:56] <bellows> hmm.
#3323 [17:56] <linux4ever> @all: How to do a sign elevator?
#3324 [17:56] <Michl3545> linux4ever: yes
#3325 [17:57] <Michl3545> same as ladders, but with signs
#3326 [17:57] <linux4ever> Michl3545: ??
#3327 [17:57] <linux4ever> Michl3545: What?
#3328 [17:57] <linux4ever> aah
#3329 [17:57] <linux4ever> ok
#3330 [17:57] <TheNytangel> linux4ever, replace the ladders with signs
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#3332 [17:58] <linux4ever> hmm, that looks even more ugly then just a ladder tower
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#3334 [17:58] <Michl3545|AFK> use a portal
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#3337 [17:59] <Lordgizmo> nabend
#3338 [17:59] <minecraftidiot> vox, thanks I will try it and let you know. I appreciate it.
#3339 [17:59] <TheNytangel> Lordgizmo, we don't speak whatever language that i
#3340 [17:59] <TheNytangel> is*
#3341 [17:59] <TheNytangel> And I just sneezed all over myself
#3342 [18:00] <Lordgizmo> ok i seerch german help ^^
#3343 [18:00] <Lordgizmo> search
#3344 [18:00] <Nev> Can someone give me either a phone number or an email address so i can contact support for help? Trying to buy this game is making me a bit frustrated.
#3345 [18:00] <TheNytangel> ?? mojang
#3346 [18:00] <TheNytangel> ?? support
#3347 [18:00] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3348 [18:00] <xales> Nev: Mojang can't help you
#3349 [18:00] <xales> They don't actually process the payments
#3350 [18:00] <xales> Try using PayPal.
#3351 [18:00] <Nev> Any support that will help me contact them about purchasing the game.
#3352 [18:01] <xales> Try using PayPal.
#3353 [18:01] <Nev> Will paypal give me an error saying Credit/debit card deposits disabled? Or any sort of error? Im tired of errors
#3354 [18:01] <xales> I don't know. Why don't you try it? ._.
#3355 [18:01] <Nev> Because i dont want to waste my time trying if im only going to have more problems
#3356 [18:02] <Lordgizmo> i have prob with my graficcard xD
#3357 [18:02] <xales> Nev: Just try it ._.
#3358 [18:02] <xales> Lordgizmo: What problem...?
#3359 [18:03] <Lordgizmo> my ati radeon 9250 of my 2 pc runs the game not
#3360 [18:03] <Lordgizmo> i have buy the game 2x
#3361 [18:03] <xales> Play the game in your browser
#3362 [18:03] <Nev> Ahh. Well thanks for the help to those who answered.
#3363 [18:04] <Lordgizmo> ok but dosnt work with this card to old?
#3364 [18:04] <xales> Yes
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#3366 [18:04] <Lordgizmo> ok thanks ^^
#3367 [18:04] <Lordgizmo> i buy a new ^^
#3368 [18:04] <Lordgizmo> by by
#3369 [18:05] <minecraftidio> vox, it worked thank you very much I have been trying for 3 days to fix that with no one able to answer the question...
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#3371 [18:06] <VoxelHead> bye The_Angry_Cactus
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#3373 [18:10] * VoxelHead is away: brb
#3373 [18:10] <Naijee> Can you play with someone else on the same account?
#3374 [18:11] <xales> No
#3375 [18:11] <Naijee> Not even on a private server the two of you set up?
#3376 [18:11] <xales> Correct
#3377 [18:11] <Naijee> kay, thanks
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#3381 [18:14] <mib_hli54t> wat if you already put did the transaction but the credit card you put in wasnt the 1 that you wanted to put in but already accept it, could you refund the money so i can put in another credit card #?
#3382 [18:15] <xales> You would have to contact whatever payment service you used, or chargeback
#3383 [18:15] <xales> ??> mib_hli54t dont/tweet
#3384 [18:15] <VoxelHead> mib_hli54t: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you' and 'are', and not 'u' and 'r'.
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#3386 [18:24] <TSE> Hello. I was planning on getting MC soon, but I'm worried that it won't run on my netbook.
#3387 [18:24] <TSE> Here are the specs: http://pastebin.com/iNAQgCvR
#3388 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> TSE: what video adapter has it got?
#3389 [18:25] <TSE> Intel GMA 950, I think.
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#3391 [18:25] <xales> Very unlikely, in that case
#3392 [18:26] <TSE> Not even with Optimine?
#3393 [18:26] <xales> (If it did, it wouldn't get more than a few FPS)
#3394 [18:26] <shmoo> ok guys i tryied to mod the game and now everytime i open it crashes
#3395 [18:26] <xales> Well, Optimine won't help if the game won't even launch >.>
#3396 [18:26] <xales> ??> shmoo win/reinst
#3397 [18:26] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3398 [18:26] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3399 [18:26] <TSE> Well, Classic runs okay, averaging ~25 fps, though it freezes every one in a while.
#3400 [18:27] <shmoo> can someone help me out
#3401 [18:27] <xales> shmoo: I just told you what to do.
#3402 [18:27] <xales> Follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#3403 [18:27] <shmoo> oh
#3404 [18:27] <xales> ._.
#3405 [18:27] <xales> TSE: The game it known to not even launch on the GMA 900 series
#3406 [18:27] <xales> TSE: You could always try the demo
#3407 [18:27] <xales> ??> TSE demo
#3408 [18:27] <VoxelHead> TSE: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3409 [18:27] <VoxelHead> TSE: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#3410 [18:27] <shmoo> i dont get how
#3411 [18:27] <xales> shmoo: How what?
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#3413 [18:28] <TSE> Thanks, VoxelHead!
#3414 [18:28] <shmoo> to do it i have no idea what ur talkin about
#3415 [18:28] <xales> shmoo: What part of it don't you get?
#3416 [18:28] <shmoo> the first part, where do i go and i cant my minecraft folder with all the stuff
#3417 [18:29] <xales> Hold down the Windows key and press R
#3418 [18:29] <xales> In the box that appears, type %appdata% and press Enter
#3419 [18:29] <xales> Go into the .minecraft folder and delete everything except for 'saves'
#3420 [18:31] <shmoo> ok now what?
#3421 [18:31] <xales> Did you delete everything?
#3422 [18:31] <xales> (except saves)
#3423 [18:31] <shmoo> yea and i left the saves folder
#3424 [18:31] <xales> Run Minecraft
#3425 [18:31] <shmoo> ok
#3426 [18:32] <TSE> Well, the window launched. Is that a good sign?
#3427 [18:32] <xales> TSE: Unless it actually works, it doesn't mean much
#3428 [18:32] <shmoo> OMG IT WORKED I LOVE U XALES!
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#3430 [18:32] <TSE> Now it's Generating Terrain.
#3431 [18:33] <shmoo> i have another question
#3432 [18:34] <shmoo> how do i download cool mods without crashing it again
#3433 [18:34] <xales> By following the instructions ._.
#3434 [18:35] <xales> ??> shmoo irc/dontpm
#3435 [18:35] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#3436 [18:35] * xales sighs
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#3437 [18:35] <mib_me9dpp> how do i download cool mods
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#3441 [18:36] <TSE> Well, I set the video settings from Fancy to Fast and it's playable. Large framerate drops, but still works.
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#3444 [18:36] <xales> It >should< work then...
#3445 [18:37] <Awesomeness> xales
#3446 [18:37] <TSE> All right, awesome!
#3447 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> TSE: yay (:
#3448 [18:37] <Awesomeness> I have an i7, and ever since 1.6 I have 40-120 fps
#3449 [18:37] <Awesomeness> It's really pissing me off.
#3450 [18:37] <Awesomeness> I used to have 3x-6x more.
#3451 [18:37] <TSE> Are the fog settings settable?
#3452 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Awesomeness: turn off smooth lighting.
#3453 [18:37] <xales> No, you didn't
#3454 [18:37] <leaper> when I open minecraft and try to login it says I have not downloaded the game
#3455 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> TSE: yes, view distance.
#3456 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> shorter distance = more fog = higher FPS
#3457 [18:38] <xales> leaper: Have you bought Minecraft?
#3458 [18:38] <Awesomeness> DopeGhoti: I don't wanna turn it off, I like it. :|
#3459 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> 'F' will toggle
#3460 [18:38] <TSE> Ah, OK. Is Tiny the smallest?
#3461 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3462 [18:38] <Awesomeness> xales: Yes, I did. :|
#3463 [18:38] <TSE> All right, good. Thanks for all the help!
#3464 [18:38] <xales> Awesomeness: In the last version, the FPS counter was broken
#3465 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> cheers!
#3466 [18:38] <xales> It displayed chunk updates.
#3467 [18:38] <xales> Not FPS.
#3468 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> xales means 1.5, not 1.6.x
#3469 [18:38] <Awesomeness> xales: heh, well, it's not as smooth now.
#3470 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> specifically 1.5_02
#3471 [18:38] <Awesomeness> -duncarewhatitdisplays-
#3472 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Awesomeness: Smooth Lighting -> Non-smooth gameplay
#3473 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> (and also ugly)
#3474 [18:39] <Awesomeness> DopeGhoti: I _could_ play with smooth lighthing before, with no problems
#3475 [18:39] <leaper> can anyone help me
#3476 [18:39] <xales> leaper: Have you bought Minecraft?
#3477 [18:39] <Awesomeness> and uh, it's on opinion, that's like saying I don't like this food, somebody else might like it.
#3478 [18:39] <leaper> yes I have
#3479 [18:39] <Awesomeness> leaper: what is your username?
#3480 [18:40] <xales> leaper: What else does it say near "not downloaded"? "Login Failed"?
#3481 [18:40] <leaper> raidincanadian14
#3482 [18:40] <Awesomeness> !Paid raidincanadian14
#3483 [18:40] <leaper> seriously
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#3485 [18:40] <leaper> I bought it
#3486 [18:40] <xales> ??> leaper payment
#3487 [18:40] <VoxelHead> leaper: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3488 [18:40] <VoxelHead> leaper: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#3489 [18:40] <Awesomeness> So, uh, do you think 1.7 will fix this bs?
#3490 [18:40] <leaper> I payed for it 6 months ago
#3491 [18:41] <Awesomeness> I don't want to run with such low fps. D
#3492 [18:41] <Awesomeness> :
#3493 [18:41] <xales> leaper: Are you sure you paid for it _on that account_?
#3494 [18:41] <leaper> yeah
#3495 [18:41] <xales> ??> leaper account
#3496 [18:41] <VoxelHead> leaper: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3497 [18:41] <VoxelHead> leaper: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3498 [18:41] <Awesomeness> Leaper: Are you COMPLETELY sure it's spelled like that?
#3499 [18:41] <leaper> I deleted it all because it was relly buggy recently and tried to reinstall it
#3500 [18:42] <leaper> it is spelled like this :raidincanadin14
#3501 [18:42] <leaper> sry
#3502 [18:43] <xales> That account is premium, yes
#3503 [18:43] <Awesomeness> !paid raidincanadin14
#3504 [18:43] <Awesomeness> lol..
#3505 [18:43] <leaper> hahahahahahah
#3506 [18:43] <leaper> I just wanted to know why it says I haven't downloaded it
#3507 [18:44] <xales> What else does it say
#3508 [18:44] <xales> In red text
#3509 [18:44] <xales> "Login Failed" or "Could not connect to minecraft.net"?
#3510 [18:44] <leaper> login failed
#3511 [18:44] <xales> Your username or password is incorrect
#3512 [18:44] <leaper> then is says "not downloaded"
#3513 [18:45] <xales> Your username or password is incorrect
#3514 [18:45] <leaper> ok I'll try that
#3515 [18:45] <leaper> thanks a bunch !
#3516 [18:45] * xales nods
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#3517 [18:47] <Awesomeness> xales, I'm saving up for sr2 motherboard, and 2 intel xeons. :P
#3518 [18:47] <redsoxrule14> guys i downloaded minecraft and know black screen pops up every time ive deleted bin folder nothing works
#3519 [18:47] <xales> redsoxrule14: Try playing in your browser.
#3520 [18:49] <redsoxrule14> i would like to be able to play the downloaded version though? why is a black screen popping up, i payed 20 bucks for it and i have never been able to play it once because a black screen popped up at the first time i opened broswer version doesnt workeither
#3521 [18:50] <xales> ??> redsoxrule14 win/dxdiag
#3522 [18:50] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3523 [18:50] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3524 [18:50] <xales> ._.
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#3526 [18:50] <xales> ??> redsoxrule14 win/dxdiag
#3527 [18:50] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3528 [18:50] <Awesomeness> LOL
#3529 [18:51] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3530 [18:51] <Awesomeness> xales: I'm saving up for a sr2, and dual xeons.
#3531 [18:51] <redsoxrule14> voxelhead i dont have a pac
#3532 [18:51] <Awesomeness> Pac? Is that a combination of PC and Mac?
#3533 [18:51] <xales> Awesomeness: Why do I care?
#3534 [18:51] <redsoxrule14> i dont have a pc
#3535 [18:51] <redsoxrule14> sorry typo
#3536 [18:51] <redsoxrule14> i have a mac
#3537 [18:51] <xales> What model is it?
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#3539 [18:52] <redsoxrule14> mac book os 10.5.8
#3540 [18:52] <xales> What year?
#3541 [18:53] <redsoxrule14> 2007-2008
#3542 [18:53] <redsoxrule14> it is perfectly capable of running minecraft
#3543 [18:53] <xales> It would seem not
#3544 [18:53] <Awesomeness> Has it ever ran succesfully before?
#3545 [18:53] <redsoxrule14> my friend played it on his account and it worked fine
#3546 [18:53] <xales> His account...on the same computer?
#3547 [18:53] <Awesomeness> Have you bought Minecraft?
#3548 [18:54] * Awesomeness pushes xales away
#3548 [18:54] <Awesomeness> I feel like helping.
#3549 [18:54] <redsoxrule14> yes i bought minecraft he had minecraft on his flash drive and he played on my computer
#3550 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> there's plenty for everyone.
#3551 [18:54] <Awesomeness> Why would he need to put Minecraft on his flashdrive?
#3552 [18:54] <xales> ??> redsoxrule14 mac/reinst
#3553 [18:54] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3554 [18:55] <VoxelHead> redsoxrule14: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3555 [18:55] <redsoxrule14> thanks for the suggestion and ive done that before but it doesnt work
#3556 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/profile
#3557 [18:55] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3558 [18:55] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3559 [18:56] <redsoxrule14> okay ill give that a try
#3560 [18:56] <Awesomeness> red: I'm curious, what is the username you are using to login?
#3561 [18:56] <redsoxrule14> redsoxrule14
#3562 [18:57] <Awesomeness> !Paid redsoxrule14
#3563 [18:57] <Awesomeness> Hmm
#3564 [18:57] <redsoxrule14> i purchased minecraft this morning and ive been trying to get it to work all day
#3565 [18:57] <Awesomeness> Oooh, it might take some time, up to 48 hours
#3566 [18:57] <Awesomeness> So just sit back, and relax.
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#3568 [18:58] <TheNytangel> !check 65.19.250.8
#3569 [18:58] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3570 [18:58] <redsoxrule14> really, because i was told it would take only 1-2 hours, but thank you for your time i will try again in a day or two
#3571 [18:58] <TheNytangel> Not here..
#3572 [18:59] * xales kicked Awesomeness from #minecrafthelp (Reason: …)
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#3574 [18:59] <Awesomeness> ?
#3575 [18:59] <xales> ?
#3576 [19:00] <Awesomeness> Why the hell did you kick me?
#3577 [19:00] <xales> Why the hell are you lying to people?
#3578 [19:00] <Awesomeness> huh?
#3579 [19:01] <xales> 18:57:45 < Awesomeness> Oooh, it might take some time, up to 48 hours
#3580 [19:01] <xales> 18:57:55 < Awesomeness> So just sit back, and relax.
#3581 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> 15:59 <@ AuBot> | redsoxrule14 has paid for Minecraft!
#3582 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> it was not a payment issue
#3583 [19:01] <Awesomeness> oh.
#3584 [19:01] <Awesomeness> herp a derpa derpa herpa derpa
#3585 [19:01] <Awesomeness> Sorry. >.>
#3586 [19:02] <TSE> Minecraft runs just fine! Thanks for all your help!
#3587 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> TSE: excellent!
#3588 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8
#3589 [19:02] <TSE> Also, crafting stuff is cool. Though I lost two workbenches on my first night.
#3590 [19:02] <Awesomeness> DopeGhoti: That is getting unfunny. >.>
#3591 [19:04] <TSE> Oh, also, is there a fullscreen mode in the full release? I'd figure that might be a little faster.
#3592 [19:04] <Awesomeness> F11?
#3593 [19:04] <Awesomeness> F11 makes the game fullscreen, if that's what you mean.
#3594 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> it'll probably run slower, actually, but it's worth a try. Either F11 or just maximize the window
#3595 [19:04] <TSE> Breaks a bit.
#3596 [19:05] <TSE> Actually, fullscreen only makes the window fill a quarter of the screen. But that's OK.
#3597 [19:06] <Awesomeness> That's nice, that'll be $16 now!
#3598 [19:06] <TSE> Er...
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#3600 [19:07] <Awesomeness> (we're kidding)
#3601 [19:07] <TSE> Ah, sorry.
#3602 [19:07] <mib_dq4646> the install is killing me
#3603 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> call the police.
#3604 [19:08] <Awesomeness> It is? Go see a doctor. Or tell us what it's doing so we can help fix it.
#3605 [19:08] <mib_dq4646> linux
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#3607 [19:08] <Awesomeness> Yes, Linux, that's nice.
#3608 [19:09] <TSE> Actually, does MC run faster under, say, Ubuntu than under WinXP?
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#3610 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> it probably would because Linux uses fewer of the system's resourses (e. g. RAM)
#3611 [19:09] <TSE> I do hope so, as I have an underused Ubuntu Netbook install.
#3612 [19:09] <Awesomeness> DopeGhoti: I want to liquid nitrogen cool my system. :(
#3613 [19:09] <AG_Scott> Netbook?
#3614 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Awesomeness: no you don't.
#3615 [19:09] <TSE> I actually haven't booted it since I upgraded it to 10.10.
#3616 [19:10] <AG_Scott> They got rid of netbook edition.
#3617 [19:10] <mr_fribble> i dont get why it says not premium when i try to download the game i need an answer
#3618 [19:10] <Awesomeness> DG: Yes, I do. D:
#3619 [19:10] <xales> mr_fribble: You have to buy the game to play it.
#3620 [19:10] <mib_dq4646> ok gotcha...gonna try them out moocho grazee
#3621 [19:10] <mr_fribble> i bought it thow
#3622 [19:10] <TSE> AG_Scott, I know. I haven't booted it in a long time.
#3623 [19:10] <xales> ??> mr_fribble payment
#3624 [19:10] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3625 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> "thow"?
#3626 [19:10] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#3627 [19:10] * DopeGhoti headsplosed
#3627 [19:11] <mib_dq4646> i purchased with a credit card
#3628 [19:11] <mr_fribble> it also says that i cant use my credit card for 24 hours
#3629 [19:11] <mib_dq4646> yesterday
#3630 [19:11] <xales> mib_dq4646: We are talking to someone else ._.
#3631 [19:12] <xales> mr_fribble: Then no payment was made
#3632 [19:12] <TSE> That's odd... my inventory doesn't work. Seems to be a focus issue on the menus.
#3633 [19:12] <mib_dq4646> ahh
#3634 [19:12] <mr_fribble> but it said purchased
#3635 [19:13] <xales> mr_fribble: If it says your card was denied, then no purchase was made.
#3636 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> TSE: so pressing 'e' does nothing?
#3637 [19:13] <TSE> The inv. opens, but I can't click anything.
#3638 [19:13] <TSE> It doesn't even highlight items when I put my cursor over them.
#3639 [19:13] <xales> TSE: Restart Minecraft. It's a known bug with switching into and out of fullscreen
#3640 [19:13] <TSE> Ah.
#3641 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: really?
#3642 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ⋯-=≡★ ♪ The More You Know… ♫
#3643 [19:14] <mr_fribble> but it didnt say that wat am i sopposed to wait 24 hours to play it
#3644 [19:14] <xales> mr_fribble: If it said that you can't use a credit card for 24 hours, and then it said payment successful, then NO PAYMENT WAS MADE
#3645 [19:15] <mr_fribble> that doesnt make sense
#3646 [19:15] <xales> Yes, it does.
#3647 [19:15] <mr_fribble> NO
#3648 [19:15] <TSE> Works now, thanks!
#3649 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#3650 [19:15] <xales> It doesn't really matter if you understand why it does that
#3651 [19:15] <xales> But no payment was made, if those events happened in that order
#3652 [19:15] <mr_fribble> watever
#3653 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> mr_fribble: it's really easy to verify
#3654 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> mr_fribble: call the number on the back of your card and check your balance and recent transactions.
#3655 [19:17] <Awesomeness> I need a hug.
#3656 [19:17] <Awesomeness> ?? hug/me
#3657 [19:17] <Awesomeness> :(
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#3659 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> vox, give Awesomeness a hug
#3660 [19:18] * VoxelHead snuggles Awesomeness
#3660 [19:19] <Awesomeness> yaaaay. :D
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#3662 [19:20] * VoxelHead is away: watching a film
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#3664 [19:26] <mib_jkrtr8> hey which credit card do you thin k would be the best
#3665 [19:26] <xales> That's rather outside the scope of this channel
#3666 [19:26] <xales> Why not try #banking101?
#3667 [19:27] <Awesomeness> ..
#3668 [19:27] <Awesomeness> he will try it
#3669 [19:27] * Awesomeness baps xales
#3669 [19:27] <Awesomeness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCNICT2en_U
#3670 [19:27] * xales somehow doubts that
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#3672 [19:39] <TSE> Thank you again, everyone!
#3673 [19:39] <gretchen> Hi, When i try to log in to Minecraft it says "Can't connect to Minecraft.net". Whats the problem?
#3674 [19:40] <xales> gretchen: Are you able to go to http://minecraft.net/ ?
#3675 [19:40] <gretchen> u mean only to the website?
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#3677 [19:40] <xales> Yes.
#3678 [19:40] <gretchen> yeah
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#3680 [19:41] <xales> Are you able to play on minecraft.net?
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#3683 [19:41] <gretchen> nope, there it says "Loading Done"
#3684 [19:42] <gretchen> freezed
#3685 [19:42] <xales> Does your Windows username have an ! in it?
#3686 [19:42] <gretchen> ye¨
#3687 [19:42] <xales> That is the problem.
#3688 [19:42] <xales> You have to make a new user account to play Minecraft
#3689 [19:42] <gretchen> what?
#3690 [19:42] <xales> Just changing the name isn't enough
#3691 [19:43] <unicorn117xD> hey when i try to get on classic multiplayer it says applet refused please accept permisoin dialog
#3692 [19:43] <xales> unicorn117xD: Try a different browser, and when it pops up asking you to run, you have to click allow
#3693 [19:43] <unicorn117xD> ok
#3694 [19:44] <unicorn117xD> nope dosent work
#3695 [19:44] <xales> How does it "not work"?
#3696 [19:45] <unicorn117xD> i still get the same thing even when i agreed
#3697 [19:45] <xales> Reinstall java.
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#3699 [19:45] <unicorn117xD> ok
#3700 [19:46] <unicorn117xD> there it works now :D
#3701 [19:46] <mib_ouczg6> it says I have bad video card drivers
#3702 [19:46] <unicorn117xD> thanks so much :D
#3703 [19:46] <xales> mib_ouczg6: So, update your video card drivers then
#3704 [19:46] <mib_ouczg6> where
#3705 [19:47] <mib_ouczg6> ?
#3706 [19:47] <unicorn117xD> bye
#3707 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> mib_ouczg6: depends on what video adapter you have
#3708 [19:47] <mib_ouczg6> what if idk
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#3710 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_ouczg6 win/dxdiag
#3711 [19:48] <VoxelHead> mib_ouczg6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#3713 [19:48] <VoxelHead> mib_ouczg6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3715 [19:55] <Guest99816> Is minecraft down for anyone else here???
#3716 [19:56] <xales> No.
#3717 [19:56] <Guest99816> Can anyone help me????
#3718 [19:56] <xales> If you tell us what the problem is, maybe
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#3720 [19:57] <Guest99816> Well, I bought minecraft 2 days ago at 10:00 pm and was working fine...
#3721 [19:58] <Guest99816> Then, The next day I changed the texture pack and it said,
#3722 [19:58] <Guest99816> Minecraft has crashed!
#3723 [19:58] <Guest99816> Minecraft has crashed!
#3724 [19:58] <xales> ??> Guest99816 causality
#3725 [19:58] <VoxelHead> Guest99816: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#3726 [19:58] <VoxelHead> Guest99816: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#3727 [19:58] <Guest99816> ???? It's all greek to me...
#3728 [19:59] <xales> Um
#3729 [19:59] <xales> It means remove the texture pack
#3730 [19:59] <xales> ._.
#3731 [19:59] <Guest99816> I changed it # times and since I can't get on to it, How AM I SUPPOSED TO CHANGE IT!!!
#3732 [19:59] <Guest99816> *3
#3733 [19:59] <xales> ??> Guest99816 win/reinst
#3734 [19:59] <VoxelHead> Guest99816: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3735 [19:59] <VoxelHead> Guest99816: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3738 [20:00] <Guest99816> the "Saves directory?"
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#3740 [20:00] <xales> The folder that is called "saves"...
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#3742 [20:01] <Guest99816> Even the bin??
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#3744 [20:02] <xales> It wouldn't say everything if it didn't mean everything
#3745 [20:02] <krcm0209> Please help, I started up Minecraft today for the first time in a while and the mouse control is all over-sensitive, and has a loose, floaty feeling. Anybody have a suggestion?
#3746 [20:02] <xales> krcm0209: Press F9
#3747 [20:02] <xales> (while in Minecraft)
#3748 [20:02] <krcm0209> Hmm, one sec
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#3750 [20:03] <Guest99816> It won't let me delete the bin...
#3751 [20:03] <xales> Do you have Minecraft open?
#3752 [20:03] <krcm0209> Nope, still there. I would like to also mention that it feels like I have no control over where it's pointing, though it is my moving the mouse that causes it. It acts very wild.
#3753 [20:03] <mib_ouczg6> http://pastebin.com/qehucXCR
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#3755 [20:04] <squiggy> I can't seem to download the app and/or when i try to run it i get nowhere
#3756 [20:05] <Guest99816> Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3757 [20:05] <mib_ouczg6> http://pastebin.com/qehucXCR
#3758 [20:06] <xales> mib_ouczg6: Update your driver here: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
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#3760 [20:06] <krcm0209> Like, if I keep turning around in-game in a clockwise direction, when I stop and try to turn counter-clockwise, it keeps turning clockwise until it gets to the point where I stopped turning clockwise. I know it's hard to express in words... sorry
#3761 [20:07] <xales> krcm0209: Have you tried restarting Minecraft?
#3762 [20:07] <mib_ouczg6> ok thanks
#3763 [20:07] <krcm0209> Yes
#3764 [20:07] <krcm0209> And I've tried Force Update
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#3766 [20:07] <xales> ??> krcm0209 win/reinst
#3767 [20:07] <Bellegueule> hello?
#3768 [20:07] <VoxelHead> krcm0209: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3769 [20:07] <VoxelHead> krcm0209: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3770 [20:07] <xales> Hello, Bellegueule.
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#3772 [20:08] <Bellegueule> hey some one can tell me how many time that take before become prenium?
#3773 [20:08] <Bellegueule> 2 week i buy the game
#3774 [20:08] <Bellegueule> i post an issu on the support
#3775 [20:08] <Bellegueule> no anwser
#3776 [20:08] <xales> Bellegueule: Did you buy it from minecraft.net?
#3777 [20:08] <Bellegueule> now im about to post on paypal for thief
#3778 [20:08] <Bellegueule> yea
#3779 [20:09] <xales> Bellegueule: Go to http://minecraft.net/ and log in
#3780 [20:09] <xales> Then go to Profile, and scroll to the bottom
#3781 [20:09] <xales> Is there a gift code listed there?
#3782 [20:09] <Bellegueule> nope
#3783 [20:09] <Bellegueule> i dont buy a gift code
#3784 [20:09] <xales> What is your username?
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#3786 [20:09] <Bellegueule> BelleGueule
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#3788 [20:10] <Intense_Death> hello?
#3789 [20:10] <xales> Hello.
#3790 [20:10] <xales> Bellegueule: Did you use a credit card, or directly from bank account?
#3791 [20:10] <Bellegueule> after the transaction i see that can take over one week before become prenium...
#3792 [20:10] <Bellegueule> By pypal
#3793 [20:10] <Bellegueule> Paypal
#3794 [20:10] <Intense_Death> this is the official minecraft help channel rigt?
#3795 [20:10] <xales> Intense_Death: Yes.
#3796 [20:10] <xales> Bellegueule: Did you use a credit card on Paypal, or a bank account?
#3797 [20:11] <Intense_Death> ok i need assistance with my minecraft account
#3798 [20:11] <xales> Intense_Death: Care to be more specific?
#3799 [20:11] <Bellegueule> no just the mony on my aconts
#3800 [20:11] <Intense_Death> i believe my account has recently been hacked
#3801 [20:11] <Intense_Death> as in today
#3802 [20:11] <xales> ??> Intense_Death account
#3803 [20:11] <VoxelHead> Intense_Death: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3804 [20:11] <VoxelHead> Intense_Death: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3805 [20:11] <Intense_Death> thank you
#3806 [20:12] <xales> Bellegueule: Are you sure that is the username you bought it on?
#3807 [20:12] <krcm0209> Nope the problem is still there after deleting the appdata stuff. The best way I can describe it is that if I move the cursor up, the pointer in game keeps moving up and doesn't stop until it hits the point where it's impossible to look any farther up. If I move the cursor to the right or to the left, the in-game pointer keeps moving in the same direction and
#3808 [20:12] <Bellegueule> sure at 100%
#3809 [20:12] <Bellegueule> i have only one acconts
#3810 [20:12] <krcm0209> does not stop. If I keep moving in that direction the movement accellerates.
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#3812 [20:12] <xales> krcm0209: Are you on a laptop?
#3813 [20:13] <krcm0209> I have a laptop, but the problem does not exist on it, I am having the problem on my desktop which previously had no problems with Minecraft
#3814 [20:14] <krcm0209> I have a feeling one of the updates caused it, but I am not sure which since it's been a while since I ran Minecraft on my desktop.
#3815 [20:14] <Bellegueule> Ha and when im log on the site i see Buy now like if i never buy it IOo
#3816 [20:15] <Bellegueule> but i have the bill and the $$ ave ben remove from my paypal...
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#3819 [20:15] <xales> krcm0209: You could try reinstalling Java, possibly..
#3820 [20:16] <krcm0209> I'm considering it, it's not hard. If that does not work I have no idea. I might try backdating to an earlier version of Minecraft but technically it's against the rules to do that.
#3821 [20:16] <Hexaholic> Why is the MC site still under maintenence?
#3822 [20:17] <Hexaholic> Its been like it allday :/
#3823 [20:17] <xales> Hexaholic: The forum isn't official, and we have nothing to do with it
#3824 [20:17] <Hexaholic> Oh, okay
#3825 [20:17] <Hexaholic> =P
#3826 [20:17] <krcm0209> Yeah
#3827 [20:17] <krcm0209> minecraft.net is the only official site for the game
#3828 [20:18] <wikkit> Why can't I run Multiplayer on the MC Client? I tried playing Multiplayer over the Internet from the Minecraft site but it ran way to slow, every two or three steps it would lag..
#3829 [20:18] <krcm0209> Others are just affiliates with Mojang approval or unnofficial fan sites
#3830 [20:19] <krcm0209> wikkit: It might be server side lag.
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#3832 [20:20] <curmet> i'm having some issues with a texture pack i installed
#3833 [20:20] <xales> Care to elaborate?
#3834 [20:20] <curmet> is there a way to remove it from my documents
#3835 [20:20] <xales> Yes
#3836 [20:20] <xales> ??> curmet win/reinst
#3837 [20:20] <VoxelHead> curmet: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3838 [20:20] <VoxelHead> curmet: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3839 [20:20] <curmet> yeah, it crashes after about 20 min
#3840 [20:20] <wikkit> Maybe, though when I was standing still everything was fine and everyone was chatting and building as if there wasn't any lag. >.<..
#3841 [20:21] <xales> wikkit: http://speedtest.net/ give us the result
#3842 [20:21] <wikkit> Ok, brb.
#3843 [20:21] <curmet> thnx
#3844 [20:21] <curmet> :D
#3845 [20:23] <wikkit> The results from the Ping, Download speed and Upload Speed?
#3846 [20:23] <xales> wikkit: Yes.
#3847 [20:23] <krcm0209> Question about MC server hosting, how many players could a system with 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM support?
#3848 [20:24] <xales> krcm0209: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/
#3849 [20:24] <wikkit> Ping: 25ms Download Speed: 7.07mbps and Upload speed: 0.93mbps
#3850 [20:24] <xales> (Those figures will be slightly lower if the server is running in an optimal environment; IE, POSIX)
#3851 [20:25] <xales> wikkit: Try a different server, maybe?
#3852 [20:26] <wikkit> Well no, on the downloadable Client that I got from Minecraft.net it runs perfectly fine but I can't get on Multiplayer on it, it's just on the internet that it runs terribly.
#3853 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> wikkit: 0.93M upload? Icky
#3854 [20:26] <xales> wikkit: Why can't you?
#3855 [20:27] <wikkit> No idea, I go on the Client>Multiplayer>[IP for server here] and I get an error when I enter the IP
#3856 [20:27] <Awesomeness> Hmm, I apparently
#3857 [20:27] <xales> What error...
#3858 [20:27] <wikkit> Lemme check.
#3859 [20:27] <Awesomeness> I can host apparently a server of up to 31 people.
#3860 [20:27] <Awesomeness> Is that good?
#3861 [20:27] <krcm0209> Yes
#3862 [20:28] <krcm0209> What's your upload/download
#3863 [20:28] <Awesomeness> But my new PC which I'm saving up for can host for 181
#3864 [20:28] <Awesomeness> 62, 62.
#3865 [20:28] <krcm0209> Holy... what ISP?
#3866 [20:28] <Awesomeness> Lattelecom.
#3867 [20:28] <Awesomeness> Well, I'm gonna have that internet in 10 days.
#3868 [20:28] <krcm0209> Where are you located?
#3869 [20:28] <Awesomeness> Europe.
#3870 [20:28] <krcm0209> No wonder
#3871 [20:29] <Awesomeness> ?
#3872 [20:29] <wikkit> It tells me to check the Minecraft Forums and it's an Unknown Host, even if the host is correct
#3873 [20:29] <krcm0209> I have 2.71 DL and .71 UL. I'm in Virginia
#3874 [20:29] <Awesomeness> lol
#3875 [20:29] <xales> wikkit: Can you tell us, word for word, what it says?
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#3878 [20:30] <McModder> hello
#3879 [20:30] <krcm0209> check it: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1355249357.png
#3880 [20:30] <xales> Hello, McModder
#3881 [20:31] <xales> krcm0209: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1355252895.png :P
#3882 [20:31] <krcm0209> Hey it's not funny. It's sad... :(
#3883 [20:31] <Awesomeness> xales, taht's slow.
#3884 [20:31] <Awesomeness> one sec
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#3886 [20:31] <xales> Awesomeness: Not in the US it's not >.>
#3887 [20:32] <McModder> I need help with a mod i am making
#3888 [20:32] <Awesomeness> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1318863973.png
#3889 [20:32] <xales> ??> McModder mods
#3890 [20:32] <VoxelHead> McModder: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3891 [20:32] <VoxelHead> McModder: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3892 [20:32] <xales> McModder: Ask in #risucraft .
#3893 [20:32] <krcm0209> WTF?
#3894 [20:32] <McModder> thank you
#3895 [20:32] <Awesomeness> :3
#3896 [20:32] <krcm0209> 858Mb/s?!!!!! :D
#3897 [20:32] <wikkit> Connection lost: Error: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 400 for URL: Http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Delta 7x&sessionId=12345&serverId=4
#3898 [20:32] <wikkit> Is what I get..
#3899 [20:33] <xales> krcm0209: That's a server, so that's actually normal
#3900 [20:33] <Awesomeness> xales: my private connection will be a bit slower in download, but 3x faster in upload.
#3901 [20:33] <Awesomeness> youjelly, bro? ((((((:
#3902 [20:33] <xales> wikkit: Try this server: s.nerd.nu
#3903 [20:34] <xales> Awesomeness: Not really. My school has a multi-gigabit connection which I can use whenever, so yeah.
#3904 [20:34] <krcm0209> Too bad I can't order server-oriented internet access for a residential address.
#3905 [20:34] <wikkit> Ok, one moment
#3906 [20:34] <Awesomeness> xales: fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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#3908 [20:34] <wikkit> I get the same error, but the server Id goes off the client screen so I cant read it
#3909 [20:35] <xales> wikkit: Is your Minecraft username Delta7x?
#3910 [20:35] <keymaster13> i paid for minecraft, downloaded it, and when i try to run it it says i dont have the premium account
#3911 [20:36] <xales> keymaster13: How long ago did you pay for it?
#3912 [20:36] <Awesomeness> keymaster, how long ago did you buy it?
#3913 [20:36] <Awesomeness> xales, no u
#3914 [20:36] <wikkit> Yeah.
#3915 [20:36] <keymaster13> about half an hour
#3916 [20:36] <Awesomeness> It may take up to 48 hours, be patient.
#3917 [20:36] <xales> wikkit: You haven't bought Minecraft, and are playing a pirated version. You are neither eligible for support here, or to even play Minecraft.
#3918 [20:37] <Awesomeness> xales: that speech.. WAS EPIC! :D
#3919 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 5
#3920 [20:37] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 5 = No, we will not help you to steal the game. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Thu Jun 16 11:50:15 MST 2011 ]
#3921 [20:37] <wikkit> I downloaded the client from Minecraft.net, the classic version, not the Beta
#3922 [20:37] <keymaster13> i hit the buy now button on the home page
#3923 [20:37] <xales> wikkit: You can't play Classic if you aren't on minecraft.net
#3924 [20:38] <krcm0209> Classic can't be downloaded
#3925 [20:38] <xales> keymaster13: Just be patient - it can take up to 24 hours to process your payment
#3926 [20:38] <keymaster13> i bought the beta
#3927 [20:38] <krcm0209> Unless you're using MCForge or similar
#3928 [20:38] <xales> keymaster13: We are talking to someone else. You just have to be patient.
#3929 [20:38] <keymaster13> o ok
#3930 [20:39] <wikkit> Wow. I'm going to kill my little brother -.-...
#3931 [20:39] <krcm0209> Why
#3932 [20:39] <Awesomeness> wikkit: You may have downloaded the WOM Client, or a virus.
#3933 [20:39] <Awesomeness> As you may not download Minecraft Classic.
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#3935 [20:40] <wikkit> Told me it was downloaded from the Minecraft site since he had it on his computer, asked him to download it on mine since I couldn't find it myself.
#3936 [20:40] <krcm0209> WOM is an awesome tool if you're an OP on a classic server
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#3939 [20:43] <krcm0209> looks like I'm going to have to resort to terraria until this control thing gets sorted out
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#3941 [20:43] <mib_ean8y5> My minecraft is not working it is not loading.
#3942 [20:44] <wikkit> Well now I certainly feel like an arse for wasting you guys' time =.=
#3943 [20:44] <pudgetta> i just tried to run the java version on my imac and it didn't bring anything up
#3944 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> wikkit: lesson learned, eh? (:
#3945 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> Trust, but verify
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#3947 [20:45] <Turtelman> hello?
#3948 [20:45] <mib_ean8y5> Can anyone help me.
#3949 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#3950 [20:45] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3951 [20:45] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3952 [20:45] <mib_ean8y5> My minecraft wont run.
#3953 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> would you care to be more specific?
#3954 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> Or would you like an equally vague answer?
#3955 [20:46] <mib_ean8y5> When i go on the menu wont come on.
#3956 [20:46] <Turtelman> Whenever I download the minecraft.exe(I've tried both links) and I try to run it a message pops up saying "Java can't create machine"
#3957 [20:46] <wikkit> Yep. It's why I usually don't let him do much when it comes to putting things on my computer.. Thanks anyways.
#3958 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> Turtelman/mib_ean8y5 win/reinst
#3959 [20:47] <VoxelHead> Turtelman/mib_ean8y5: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3960 [20:47] <VoxelHead> Turtelman/mib_ean8y5: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3961 [20:47] <Turtelman> Ok, I'm giving it a try.
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#3963 [20:48] <mib_ean8y5> ill try it.
#3964 [20:50] <mib_ean8y5> It did not work.
#3965 [20:50] <xales> mib_ean8y5: Try playing on your browser.
#3966 [20:50] <mib_ean8y5> i always do.
#3967 [20:50] <xales> Has it worked before?
#3968 [20:50] <mib_ean8y5> After java is done running it stays on a black screen
#3969 [20:50] <Turtelman> it didnt work for me either
#3970 [20:51] <xales> Turtelman: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3971 [20:51] <mib_ean8y5> Ram?
#3972 [20:51] <xales> mib_ean8y5: Are you sure you deleted the folders inside .minecraft?
#3973 [20:51] <Eddie> Enough to go through a door.
#3974 [20:51] <xales> And that question was for someone else ._.
#3975 [20:51] <mib_ean8y5> ok
#3976 [20:51] <Turtelman> 6 gigs it's pretty much brand new
#3977 [20:51] <xales> Turtelman: Reinstall Java
#3978 [20:52] <Turtelman> ok, hold up.
#3979 [20:52] <mib_ean8y5> Me?
#3980 [20:52] <mib_ean8y5> This will never work.......
#3981 [20:53] <mib_ean8y5> :(
#3982 [20:53] <xales> mib_ean8y5: How could I possibly be talking to you, when I prefixed what I said with someone else's name?
#3983 [20:57] <mib_ean8y5> I know but my mincraft is not working
#3984 [20:57] <mib_ean8y5> Is anyone here to help me?
#3985 [20:57] <mib_ean8y5> Can anyone help me out.
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#3991 [20:57] <MarissasGamerTag> What do I do if Minecraft is in a black screen and youtube did not work for me
#3992 [20:57] <Hexy> Install java
#3993 [20:57] <mib_ean8y5> Me to.
#3994 [20:57] <MarissasGamerTag> i have java
#3995 [20:57] <mib_ean8y5> Ya
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#3997 [20:57] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Try playing in your browser.
#3998 [20:57] <MarissasGamerTag> noo
#3999 [20:58] <MarissasGamerTag> i want the dowload one to work
#4000 [20:58] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Does it work in your browser, or not?
#4001 [20:58] <mib_ean8y5> My browser wont work.
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#4003 [20:58] <MarissasGamerTag> im not sure
#4004 [20:58] <xales> mib_ean8y5: Has it worked before?
#4005 [20:58] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Try it, then...
#4006 [20:58] <MarissasGamerTag> but i want the download one to work
#4007 [20:58] <mib_ean8y5> Ya it just messed up about 10 min ago.
#4008 [20:58] <xales> mib_ean8y5: Did you delete everything in the .minecraft folder like I have told you to?
#4009 [20:59] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Just try it in your browser...
#4010 [20:59] <Hexy> nick Hexaholic
#4011 [20:59] <Hexy> fail
#4012 [20:59] <MarissasGamerTag> and then what do i do?
#4013 [20:59] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Tell us if it works...
#4014 [20:59] <MarissasGamerTag> kk brb
#4015 [20:59] <mib_ean8y5> ya i deleted everything, wait even the folder things like levels
#4016 [21:00] <mib_ean8y5> ill try that brb
#4017 [21:00] <xales> mib_ean8y5: "everything" includes the folders. Delete every one of them. Except the one called "saves"
#4018 [21:00] * mib_r1swtd [mib_r1swtd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4019 [21:01] <mib_r1swtd> hey can anybody tellme the steps of purchasing and installing minecraft
#4020 [21:01] * MarissasGamerTag [MarissasGamerTag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4021 [21:01] <xales> mib_r1swtd: Make account on minecraft.net, buy it, download it from minecraft.net
#4022 [21:01] <MarissasGamerTag> it did not work?
#4023 [21:01] <mib_ean8y5> The folder Bin wont delete
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#4025 [21:01] <xales> mib_ean8y5: Do you have Minecraft open?
#4026 [21:01] <mib_ean8y5> Yes
#4027 [21:02] <xales> You have to close it..
#4028 [21:02] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Has it worked before?
#4029 [21:02] <MarissasGamerTag> yes
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#4031 [21:02] <xales> ??> MarissasGamerTag win/reinst
#4032 [21:02] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4033 [21:02] <mib_r1swtd> you open the .exe file and login and you can play the game right
#4034 [21:02] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4035 [21:02] <wvugreenlantern> hello
#4036 [21:02] <xales> mib_r1swtd: Yes.
#4037 [21:02] <Turtelman> it still didnt work
#4038 [21:02] <MarissasGamerTag> im mac
#4039 [21:02] <mib_r1swtd> ?? bot
#4040 [21:02] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#4041 [21:02] <xales> ??> MarissasGamerTag mac/reinst
#4042 [21:02] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4043 [21:02] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4044 [21:02] <mib_r1swtd> muahahahahaha
#4045 [21:03] <mib_ean8y5> You guys helped ty.
#4046 [21:03] <MarissasGamerTag> i did that 2 times and it wont work
#4047 [21:03] <wvugreenlantern> could anyone help me figure out what no animals are spawning on my server any longer?
#4048 [21:03] <wvugreenlantern> why*
#4049 [21:03] <xales> wvugreenlantern: Have you tried restarting the server?
#4050 [21:03] <wvugreenlantern> yeah
#4051 [21:03] <mib_r1swtd> wierd
#4052 [21:03] <Turtelman> keep looking
#4053 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> Wug: or not using any mods?
#4054 [21:03] <mib_r1swtd> they usually should be attracted to your shelter
#4055 [21:03] <xales> wvugreenlantern: Have you disabled animal spawning in the properties file?
#4056 [21:03] <xales> Turtelman: Hmm
#4057 [21:04] <MarissasGamerTag> the bin wont work????!!!
#4058 [21:04] <wvugreenlantern> no, animal spawn is set to true. They used to spawn right outside our house but now they just stopped
#4059 [21:04] <mib_r1swtd> watever you guys do do not torrent the minecraft
#4060 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: are you using any mods?
#4061 [21:04] <wvugreenlantern> no mods here
#4062 [21:04] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: What?
#4063 [21:04] <xales> Turtelman: Try this: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#4064 [21:05] <Turtelman> ok
#4065 [21:05] <MarissasGamerTag> wait tyin ut the bin
#4066 [21:05] <mib_r1swtd> try going to the support web of minecraft
#4067 [21:05] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: That made absolutely no sense.
#4068 [21:06] <mib_r1swtd> hmm
#4069 [21:06] <MarissasGamerTag> ok when i get rid of the bin and open minecraft it goes to minecraft and the buttons a invisable?
#4070 [21:06] <mib_r1swtd> dope goti
#4071 [21:06] <mib_r1swtd> wat
#4072 [21:06] <mib_r1swtd> xales may I ask how long have you been on this place
#4073 [21:06] <mib_r1swtd> I was here in the moring
#4074 [21:06] <xales> No, you can't
#4075 [21:07] <mib_r1swtd> *morining
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#4077 [21:07] <MarissasGamerTag> xales can you answer
#4078 [21:07] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: What username are you logging in with?
#4079 [21:07] <Ghozer> Hey, is anyone around? - I have an issue with a long redstone system... when Is ay long, I mean covering a great distance
#4080 [21:07] <mib_r1swtd> where can you find diamonds
#4081 [21:07] <MarissasGamerTag> the username i made minecraft with
#4082 [21:07] <xales> Ghozer: That tends to happen
#4083 [21:08] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Which is...?
#4084 [21:08] <Awesomeness> mib_r1swtd: In the world of Minecraft
#4085 [21:08] <Ghozer> MarissasGamerTag: - about 16 to 14 blocks down..
#4086 [21:08] <MarissasGamerTag> MarissasGamerTag
#4087 [21:08] <Awesomeness> !Paid MarissaGamerTag
#4088 [21:08] <Ghozer> mib_r1swtd: **
#4089 [21:08] <xales> Well, there you go
#4090 [21:08] <Awesomeness> !Paid MarissasGamerTag
#4091 [21:08] <xales> Or not
#4092 [21:08] <mib_r1swtd> beside such a vague answer
#4093 [21:08] <Awesomeness> lol
#4094 [21:08] <Awesomeness> I misspelled. whoopsie
#4095 [21:08] <MarissasGamerTag> what
#4096 [21:08] <wvugreenlantern> anyone have any other advice on my no animals problem?
#4097 [21:08] <Ghozer> mib_r1swtd: about 16 to 14 blocks down.. -- it's not the same on every world / every server... you need to dig down, and find it...
#4098 [21:08] <mib_r1swtd> where can you find diamonds or iron ore
#4099 [21:09] <mib_r1swtd> wow
#4100 [21:09] <Ghozer> mib_r1swtd: - or make yourself admin/op on your own server and spawn it, but that kinda ruins the game
#4101 [21:09] <mib_r1swtd> yep
#4102 [21:09] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Try playing it in your browser now.
#4103 [21:09] <MarissasGamerTag> xales why did you want my username?
#4104 [21:09] <MarissasGamerTag> kk
#4105 [21:09] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: To check that you have paid for it.
#4106 [21:10] <Awesomeness> xales: "To check IF you have paid for it"
#4107 [21:10] <Awesomeness> lrn2english.
#4108 [21:10] <xales> Awesomeness: My English is perfectly valid
#4109 [21:11] <Awesomeness> It should of been a IF, instead of THAT
#4110 [21:11] <wvugreenlantern> no...
#4111 [21:11] <xales> Awesomeness: Incorrect
#4112 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> Awesomeness: "...to check whether you have paid for it."
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#4114 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> Harumph.
#4115 [21:12] <wvugreenlantern> :( i just want to be able to get get wool and leather again
#4116 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: try generating a new world?
#4117 [21:12] <Ghozer> ... this is the issue with my redstone... http://www.clanscf.com/mc/rsf1.png - each wire is connected to a lever, and when I change the state of the lever, it doesn't turn off all the way.
#4118 [21:12] <wvugreenlantern> and pork :(
#4119 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> I have once before seen a currupt world causing this problem
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#4121 [21:12] <wvugreenlantern> dope: i really don't want to give up months of structure building with my friends
#4122 [21:13] <wvugreenlantern> if mine is just broken is there maybe some mod that would allow them to spawn again instead of losing all of that progress?
#4123 [21:13] <xales> wvugreenlantern: If that is the problem, you can copy parts of your world to the new one
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#4125 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: it's called troubleshooting. If that fixes it you just need to decorrupt your existing world.
#4126 [21:13] <punksac> this is turtelman it wouldn't let me use that nickname but the link didn't work either
#4127 [21:13] <xales> Ghozer: Your repeater is facing ther wrong way
#4128 [21:14] <xales> punksac: What happened when you tried to run it?
#4129 [21:14] <wvugreenlantern> dope: k hang on
#4130 [21:14] <Ghozer> xales: - they aren't I checked them and they are all correct
#4131 [21:14] <xales> Ghozer: I'm looking right at it, and the arrow is pointing the wrong way
#4132 [21:14] <Turtelman> it opened up windows dos
#4133 [21:14] <Ghozer> xales: - i'm stood in my server looking now, they are all correct
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#4135 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> xales: look closer at the line on the left.
#4136 [21:15] <Ghozer> xales: thats the point, the lever is at the FAR direction... awaty from the camera
#4137 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> 0 input whould not be 1 output on a diode
#4138 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> direction of signal in that SS is toward the ovserver, not away
#4139 [21:15] <xales> Oh, derp
#4140 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> s/ov/ob/
#4141 [21:15] <Ghozer> lol :)
#4142 [21:15] <Ghozer> it happens
#4143 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> which, Ghozer, _is_ strange.
#4144 [21:16] <bombadil> when I try to dl the clients I get an error message of "/tmp/+ObIRjpm.jar.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. Try again later, or contact the server administrator."
#4145 [21:16] <bombadil> any ideas?
#4146 [21:16] * xales thought they were connected below the camera
#4146 [21:16] <wvugreenlantern> dope: oki did a new world and I have sheep
#4147 [21:16] <xales> bombadil: What OS?
#4148 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: okay, .mcr at a time, copy the region files from the old world into the new one
#4149 [21:17] <bombadil> all of them, the message is just slightly different for the different os s
#4150 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: and test after each file
#4151 [21:17] <Turtelman> help meh
#4152 [21:17] <xales> bombadil: err..okay. What OS are you currently using
#4153 [21:17] <bombadil> linux
#4154 [21:17] <xales> Turtelman: What did it say in the command prompt window?
#4155 [21:18] <xales> bombadil: Try downloading it with wget
#4156 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> try `wget http://Minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar` in a terminal, bombadil
#4157 [21:18] <Wug> dopeghoti - ow
#4158 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> Wug: ?
#4159 [21:18] <bombadil> that worked thanks
#4160 [21:18] <Wug> <DopeGhoti> Wug: or not using any mods?
#4161 [21:18] <Wug> you poked me, it hurt
#4162 [21:18] <wvugreenlantern> dope: ok i gotta run, thanks for the help i'll try the one file at a time thing ina bit. If i find the "trouble" file do I just need to forfeit whichever area that file is storing or is there a way to repair the corrupted area?
#4163 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> Wug: TTANTS: wu^I, wv^I
#4164 [21:19] <Ghozer> so, no one have any ideas? .. it works two or three times while i'm stood there (after removing and placing any block of RedStone)
#4165 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> wvugreenlantern: exactly
#4166 [21:19] <Turtelman> a whole lot of stuff about how it can't run minecraft
#4167 [21:19] <Ghozer> tthen when I run to the other end of the circuit to test it, it doesn't work...
#4168 [21:19] <Ghozer> run back... and it's bugged
#4169 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> Ghozer: try reducing the length of wire between diodes?
#4170 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> Ghozer: are the diodes for signalling or for signal extensions?
#4171 [21:19] <xales> Turtelman: Right click and select Mark. Drag a box over the "stuff" and press enter. This will copy it. Then go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it, then click Submit. Give us the link it sends you to.
#4172 [21:19] <Ghozer> extension
#4173 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> if the latter, try using the old school NOT repeaters
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#4176 [21:20] <Ghozer> the stone / torch ones?
#4177 [21:20] <Ghozer> .... already tried that and it does the exact same
#4178 [21:21] <Ghozer> but its only in this area... I have another two wires set up exactly the same on the other side of the wall (the grey one to the left of the image) and they work perfect
#4179 [21:21] <Ghozer> seems to be an issue with this area of the world
#4180 [21:21] <Ghozer> for some strange reason
#4181 [21:23] <Turtelman> xales: what box?
#4182 [21:23] <xales> Turtelman: The black command prompt window
#4183 [21:24] <Turtelman> xales:wait, what do i mark again?
#4184 [21:24] <xales> Turtelman: Right click and press Mark
#4185 [21:24] <xales> then drag a box over the error and hit enter
#4186 [21:26] <Turtelman> could explain it a little better? step by step
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#4188 [21:27] <xales> Turtelman: That's as step by step as I can make it...
#4189 [21:27] <Ghozer> Meh, guess not
#4190 [21:28] <Turtelman> Ok, so the error the error that pops up when I try to open minecraft, I'm supposed to "mark" the stuff in the command prompt and drag the box over that error?
#4191 [21:28] <xales> Once again...
#4192 [21:28] * mib_rbbzty [mib_rbbzty@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4193 [21:28] <xales> right click in the command prompt window and click on Mark
#4194 [21:29] <Turtelman> ok
#4195 [21:29] <Turtelman> now wut?
#4196 [21:29] <mib_rbbzty> hello
#4197 [21:29] <xales> then drag a box over the stuff, and press enter
#4198 [21:29] <xales> Hello, mib_rbbzty
#4199 [21:29] <mib_rbbzty> people i have a question please
#4200 [21:29] <xales> Then ask it...
#4201 [21:29] <mib_rbbzty> for some reason when i try to first run minecraft
#4202 [21:29] <mib_rbbzty> it works, then the little screen goes white
#4203 [21:29] <mib_rbbzty> any idea what the problem is?
#4204 [21:29] <xales> Does your Windows username have an ! in it?
#4205 [21:30] <mib_rbbzty> i didnt see one
#4206 [21:30] <xales> ??> mib_rbbzty win/profile
#4207 [21:30] <VoxelHead> mib_rbbzty: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4208 [21:30] <VoxelHead> mib_rbbzty: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4209 [21:30] <Ghozer> Sounds like you have installed a mod incorrectly, without deleting the thingy folder in the .jar
#4210 [21:30] <mib_rbbzty> alright thanks
#4211 [21:30] <Turtelman> Do i have to be on the desktop to drag the box over the stuff?
#4212 [21:31] <xales> Turtelman: You have to drag the box over the text inside the black command window
#4213 [21:31] <mib_rbbzty> brb guys i'll tell you if the computer username idea works alright?
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#4215 [21:32] <Turtelman> ok i did that and pushed enter, now what?
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#4217 [21:32] <xales> Go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste into the box there
#4218 [21:32] <xales> Then click Submit
#4219 [21:32] <BitcoinForNewegg> pm me i need help please
#4220 [21:32] <xales> and give us the URL that it sends you to
#4221 [21:32] <xales> ??> BitcoinForNewegg irc/dontpm
#4222 [21:32] <VoxelHead> BitcoinForNewegg: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#4223 [21:33] <BitcoinForNewegg> its provate
#4224 [21:33] <Ghozer> Guess no one has any more ideas then...
#4225 [21:33] <mib_rbbzty> brb guys ok
#4226 [21:33] <xales> BitcoinForNewegg: Explain the issue to me first.
#4227 [21:33] <Ghozer> oh well, guess i'll have to keep playing.
#4228 [21:33] <mib_rbbzty> logging off now
#4229 [21:33] <BitcoinForNewegg> need server tested, dont want peopel to know ip
#4230 [21:33] <Turtelman> now what?
#4231 [21:33] <xales> BitcoinForNewegg: That's outside the scope of this channel. Ask in #smp
#4232 [21:33] <xales> Turtelman: "and give us the URL that it sends you to"
#4233 [21:34] <Turtelman> http://pastebin.com/RJR3EvJv ther ya go
#4234 [21:34] <Awesomeness> Bitcoin, is your IP: 71.77.4.4?
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#4237 [21:35] <xales> Turtelman: Why are you running it from inside the .minecraft folder?
#4238 [21:35] <Turtelman> what folder should i be running it in?
#4239 [21:35] <xales> Any _other_ folder
#4240 [21:37] <keymaster13> do i have to wait for my account to be premium?
#4241 [21:37] <xales> ??> keymaster13 payment
#4242 [21:37] <VoxelHead> keymaster13: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4243 [21:37] <VoxelHead> keymaster13: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#4244 [21:37] <Turtelman> http://pastebin.com/bwcdFwxx ok now what?
#4245 [21:38] * mib_hq49yr [mib_hq49yr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4246 [21:38] <mib_hq49yr> hi guys im back!
#4247 [21:38] <keymaster13> ok thank you. i thought there was another thing wrong with my account
#4248 [21:38] <mib_hq49yr> its the person who was told to make a new username for my account
#4249 [21:38] <mib_hq49yr> sadly that didnt work
#4250 [21:38] <mib_hq49yr> any other suggestions?
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#4252 [21:39] <mib_hq49yr> does anyone know why minecraft is glitching and sometimes i see just a black sreen and other times i see a white screen
#4253 [21:40] <xales> mib_hq49yr: Reinstall Java
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#4255 [21:40] <Ghozer> mib_hq49yr: - have you recently installed a client side mod?
#4256 [21:40] <mib_hq49yr> xales
#4257 [21:40] <mib_hq49yr> one problem with that
#4258 [21:40] <xolotl> "I see Black Screens and I See White Screens," the hot new album from TKK!
#4259 [21:40] <mib_hq49yr> i play a game called runescape which uses java
#4260 [21:40] <Turtelman> xales: did you see the new link i posted
#4261 [21:40] <mib_hq49yr> and i have nothing wrong with that game
#4262 [21:40] <xales> Turtelman: Yeah, hmm
#4263 [21:40] <xales> ??> mib_hq49yr dont/bother
#4264 [21:40] <VoxelHead> mib_hq49yr: (dont/bother) If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#4265 [21:41] <mib_hq49yr> voxel
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#4267 [21:41] <mib_hq49yr> i was just saying that there is nothing wrong with my other games that use java
#4268 [21:41] <mib_hq49yr> so another other ideas?
#4269 [21:41] <xales> Reinstall Java.
#4270 [21:41] <mib_hq49yr> alright i'll try that
#4271 [21:41] <xales> Turtelman: I'd try that, as well
#4272 [21:43] * krcm0209 [krcm0209@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4273 [21:44] <krcm0209> xales: It's like F8 is stuck on in Minecraft, and if I press it to try and turn it off, it just doubles the floaty mouse effect.
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#4275 [21:45] <xales> krcm0209: Interesting...I have no idea :|
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#4277 [21:45] <pheleas_frog> hi guys im back again
#4278 [21:45] <pheleas_frog> atm i'm reinstalling java
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#4282 [21:46] <xolotl> krcm0209: You could try maybe replacing the LWJGL components in .minecraft/bin with the most recent build from lwjgl.org; perhaps that'd work
#4283 [21:46] <almostroot> o are there any fixes for the random CPU usage spike while moving, even in an area where all chunks are generated?
#4284 [21:46] <Marz> does anyone know the site which minecraft connects to for authentication? is it just minecraft.net?
#4285 [21:46] <xales> Marz: Correct
#4286 [21:46] <xolotl> krcm0209: I've heard reports that that can help input issues sometimes (though I hadn't heard that particular issue)
#4287 [21:46] <MarissasGamerTag> after i put in a texturepack my minecraft went to a black screen?? can you help
#4288 [21:46] <Marz> Xales: no prefix?
#4289 [21:46] <xales> ??> MarissasGamerTag causality
#4290 [21:46] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#4291 [21:46] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#4292 [21:46] <xolotl> krcm0209: the relevant files are lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar, jinput.jar, and the stuff in "native"
#4293 [21:46] <xales> Marz: login.minecraft.net technically, but it goes to the same place AFAIK
#4294 [21:46] <Marz> thanks xales
#4295 [21:47] <Turtelman> ok i reinstalled java, now what?
#4296 [21:47] <MarissasGamerTag> what do i do?
#4297 [21:47] <xales> Turtelman: Uh, see if it works
#4298 [21:47] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Delete the texture pack...
#4299 [21:47] <MarissasGamerTag> but i dont want to i love minecraft4kids
#4300 [21:47] <xales> Then enjoy a broken Minecraft.
#4301 [21:48] <MarissasGamerTag> ok ok, how do i delete it and can i get it back
#4302 [21:48] <Ghozer> MarissasGamerTag: - there's a META-INF folder within minecraft.jar - delete that using winrar or 7zip and load up minecraft again...
#4303 [21:48] <xales> Ghozer: Texture pack != mod
#4304 [21:48] <xales> ??> MarissasGamerTag win/reinst
#4305 [21:48] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4306 [21:48] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4307 [21:48] <Ghozer> xales: Still worked for me when I had that issue with a texture pack
#4308 [21:48] <Ghozer> Thought might be worth a try
#4309 [21:48] <MarissasGamerTag> i cant open minecraft.jar?
#4310 [21:49] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#4311 [21:49] <MarissasGamerTag> but i have mac
#4312 [21:49] <xales> bah
#4313 [21:49] <xales> ??> MarissasGamerTag mac/reinst
#4314 [21:49] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4315 [21:49] <VoxelHead> MarissasGamerTag: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#4318 [21:51] <red_sky33> excuse me but i have a question
#4319 [21:51] <Lawrence> a
#4320 [21:51] <Lawrence> what's a good factions/survival/etc. server?
#4321 [21:52] <Ghozer> Any ways, i'm off for the night... i'll have another play with my RedStone stuff tomorrow, see if it wants to work then... :(
#4322 [21:52] <MarissasGamerTag> ok i got rid on the bin but when i go into minecraft the buttons to a new map wont open?
#4323 [21:53] <MarissasGamerTag> what do i do???
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#4325 [21:53] <xolotl> Lawrence: Try in #smp, though note that it's a low-traffic channel
#4326 [21:53] <MarissasGamerTag> can someone help me??
#4327 [21:53] <xolotl> MarissasGamerTag: Did you delete it while the game was still running? When you restarted, did it re-download some files
#4328 [21:54] <xolotl> MarissasGamerTag: Don't say stuff like "can someone help me??" - it's rather annoying in IRC.
#4329 [21:54] <MarissasGamerTag> what do you mean re-load files?
#4330 [21:54] <xolotl> er, sorry, my grammar was pretty ridiculous there. After deleting the "bin" folder and restarting minecraft, did you see it re-download some files before getting back to the main menu?
#4331 [21:54] <MarissasGamerTag> yes it did re-load files but it still doesnt work?
#4332 [21:55] <xolotl> "did it re-downloaded some files" indeed. Hmph.
#4333 [21:55] <xolotl> MarissasGamerTag: So you're at the main Minecraft menu, but it won't let you start a new world?
#4334 [21:55] <MarissasGamerTag> like i cant see the buttons when it loads
#4335 [21:55] <MarissasGamerTag> load*
#4336 [21:56] <xolotl> Hm, dunno then. I don't have any personal experience with OSX systems. Good luck!
#4337 [21:56] <MarissasGamerTag> oh thank
#4338 [21:56] <MarissasGamerTag> thanks*
#4339 [21:57] <MarissasGamerTag> let me unistall the textyrepack and see
#4340 [21:57] <MarissasGamerTag> texturepack*
#4341 [21:58] <MarissasGamerTag> i got it to work:)!!!
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#4343 [21:59] <MarissasGamerTag> i have another ?
#4344 [21:59] <jonavav1> my little brother installed a texture pack that made minecraft stop working.
#4345 [21:59] <xales> jonavav1: So remove the texture pack
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#4347 [21:59] <MarissasGamerTag> same i can help you
#4348 [21:59] <jonavav1> I deleted everything but the saves
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#4350 [22:00] <bezaban> jonavav1: back them up and try again
#4351 [22:00] <MarissasGamerTag> did you make a new folder?
#4352 [22:00] <jonavav1> and tried to boot up. it gets stuck on either DOWNLOADING PACKAGES,
#4353 [22:00] <MarissasGamerTag> for the texturepack?
#4354 [22:00] <jonavav1> or DONE LOADING
#4355 [22:00] <xales> jonavav1: Go back and delete everything again, except saves
#4356 [22:00] <jonavav1> k
#4357 [22:01] <MarissasGamerTag> how do you install a texturepack?
#4358 [22:01] <jonavav1> didn't work
#4359 [22:01] <xales> MarissasGamerTag: By following the instructions for the texture pack
#4360 [22:01] <MarissasGamerTag> where are the instructions?
#4361 [22:02] <bezaban> on the site where you downloaded it, or in a text file within the downloaded packacke.
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#4363 [22:02] <bezaban> package
#4364 [22:02] <jonavav1> MarissasGamerTag: normaly, you just need to put the files/extract the files into the texturepacks folder in the .minecraft folder
#4365 [22:02] <jonavav1> xales:it didn't work
#4366 [22:03] <MarissasGamerTag> kk thx people you were a big help:)
#4367 [22:03] <xales> ??> jonavav1 win/profile
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#4369 [22:03] <VoxelHead> jonavav1: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4370 [22:03] <VoxelHead> jonavav1: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4371 [22:03] <MarissasGamerTag> byeee:)
#4372 [22:03] <bezaban> ah nice
#4373 [22:03] <mib_yyb1hm> hi um... im not exactly sure how this works but could you help me with minecraft
#4374 [22:04] <xales> If you tell us what the problem is, maybe
#4375 [22:04] <jonavav1> VoxelHead: I remember fixing this somehow last time i had this problem
#4376 [22:04] <jonavav1> Voxelhead: just it didn't involve new user account
#4377 [22:04] <xales> ??> jonavav1 bot
#4378 [22:04] <VoxelHead> jonavav1: (bot) Yes, I'm a bot.
#4379 [22:05] <mib_yyb1hm> whem i try to play it tells me i have bad video card drivers
#4380 [22:05] <xales> jonavav1: Creating a new user account will at least let us know wherein the problem lies
#4381 [22:05] <bezaban> just got to say: I idle here and occasionally help, but xales and GrayVulpine: you are doing exceptionally good jobs. (probably missed someone too)
#4382 [22:05] <xales> mib_yyb1hm: Update your video card drivers, then
#4383 [22:05] <krcm0209> I just created this, hopefully I'm not the only one: http://miburl.com/2XFdfv
#4384 [22:05] <mib_yyb1hm> ok thanks
#4385 [22:05] <jonavav1> xales:okay
#4386 [22:05] <xales> bezaban: Thanks
#4387 [22:06] <bezaban> xales: you're welcome ::)
#4388 [22:08] <m0nk> mouse is a little sensy in the new 1.6.6. but the f8 thing is just crazy
#4389 [22:08] <jonavav1> xales: it didn't work
#4390 [22:08] <xales> jonavav1: Reinstall Java
#4391 [22:10] <jonavav1> xales: Doesn't work still
#4392 [22:10] <krcm0209> m0nk: Is it like this: http://gsfn.us/t/2bf9l
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#4394 [22:11] <xales> jonavav1: And you logged into the new user account and tried it there, and still didn't work?
#4395 [22:11] <m0nk> why are you showing me that?
#4396 [22:11] <m0nk> i already read it
#4397 [22:11] <m0nk> double effect
#4398 [22:11] <m0nk> reinstall mc?
#4399 [22:11] <jonavav1> xales: yes
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#4401 [22:12] <m0nk> not the same problem. i was just saying how it is. mouse is a little sensy. but your problem with the f8 is jsut crazy
#4402 [22:12] <xales> jonavav1: Try following these instructions: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#4403 [22:16] <krcm0209> idk I'm just trying to spread word, hopefully I'm not an isolated problem.
#4404 [22:20] <m0nk> did you try reinstalling?
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#4408 [22:24] <krcm0209> m0nk: Yes
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#4411 [22:26] <Giantsfan219> how do i open a server port?
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#4413 [22:27] <xales> http://portforward.com/ - Click on your router model, skip the ad, and click Minecraft Server. follow the instructions. Do not download anything from that website
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#4417 [22:33] <Giantsfan219> what if my router is not on that website
#4418 [22:33] <quaddle> not sure if payment went through. denied my card through verification, but then said thanks for the payment. game was downloaded but won't actually download, takes me to dowwload site. what's up. card was actually denied? seems like this is common.
#4419 [22:33] <xales> Giantsfan219: It is on that website.
#4420 [22:34] <xales> quaddle: If your card was declined, try a different payment method or contact your financial institution about what is was denied
#4421 [22:34] <Giantsfan219> i checked mine is cisco e2500 and is not on there
#4422 [22:35] <xales> Linksys, not Cisco
#4423 [22:36] <krcm0209> Type 192.168.1.1 into your address bar or whatever takes you to your router page, and see if you can get into the firewall settings or an advanced settings menu and look for something called Port Forwarding or something similar.
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#4425 [22:37] <quaddle> how do i get the game? why did i get an approval, and a game download? it won't run. i can try paypal to see if it works. kind of weird to get an approval and download but redirected to the site. is this normal?
#4426 [22:38] <krcm0209> Could you try to reword your problem? I don't understand.
#4427 [22:38] <umbridge> can you guys help me, when i start minecraft it gets to the bit where it shows the dirt texture background and then says theres an error after about like 30 seconds
#4428 [22:39] <krcm0209> umbridge: Did you try reinstalling Java?
#4429 [22:39] <umbridge> yeah several times
#4430 [22:40] <umbridge> ill do it one more time
#4431 [22:40] <krcm0209> What about going into %appdata% and deleting everything but the Saves folder then running again?
#4432 [22:40] <umbridge> ill try that one sex
#4433 [22:40] <umbridge> sec*
#4434 [22:40] <krcm0209> woah
#4435 [22:40] <krcm0209> lol
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#4437 [22:41] <umbridge> i cant find appdata
#4438 [22:41] <krcm0209> What operating system do you have
#4439 [22:42] <umbridge> windows 7 64 bit
#4440 [22:42] <krcm0209> Go to the start menu, and in the search bar type in "%appdata%" minus the quotations and press enter
#4441 [22:42] <krcm0209> then go into the .minecraft folder
#4442 [22:43] <quaddle> paid for the download. got denied on the card verification, don't know why, financial organization not verified? closed window and was thanked for the purchase. got the game download and it won't run. just directed to the site. was this actually downloaded not.
#4443 [22:43] <umbridge> delete everythhing but saves?
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#4445 [22:43] <krcm0209> Yes
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#4447 [22:44] <krcm0209> quaddle: Can you see the login screen if you try to run the game?
#4448 [22:45] <quaddle> yes, logs in gives me the current game updates and site info. no game install though.
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#4450 [22:46] <umbridge> krcm, do i delete last login and mcpatcher.properties too?
#4451 [22:46] <umbridge> and options.txt?
#4452 [22:46] <dansdaman> i bought minecraft beta on friday morning. It has been over five days since I purchased it. Why can I not still play it?
#4453 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> dansdaman support
#4454 [22:46] <VoxelHead> dansdaman: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4455 [22:47] <krcm0209> quaddle: It sounds as if you did indeed download the Minecraft client, however your bank and/or card information could not be verified therefore you were not added into the system as a paid/premium member. You shouldn't have a charge show up on your bank statement.
#4456 [22:47] <dansdaman> i have tried connecting them. they just brought me back here
#4457 [22:47] <krcm0209> umbridge: Everything in .minecraft but the Saves folder
#4458 [22:47] <umbridge> k
#4459 [22:47] <umbridge> it worked ty so much
#4460 [22:47] <krcm0209> np
#4461 [22:47] <dansdaman> so i should re-buy it?
#4462 [22:48] <krcm0209> dansdaman: Did a charge for the game show up on your bank statement or PayPal?
#4463 [22:48] <dansdaman> no
#4464 [22:49] <krcm0209> Then the transaction most likely did not go through properly, I would try to repurchase it.
#4465 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> ^
#4466 [22:49] <dansdaman> thx
#4467 [22:49] <geno61> Does anyone know if minecraft accepts a pre-paid American Express gift card?
#4468 [22:49] <quaddle> ok, i'll check with the bank. thanks.
#4469 [22:49] <krcm0209> No idea
#4470 [22:49] <dansdaman> no it doesmt
#4471 [22:49] <krcm0209> Probably not
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#4473 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> ?? prepaid
#4474 [22:49] <dansdaman> i tried
#4475 [22:49] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
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#4477 [22:50] <geno61> Okay, thank you.
#4478 [22:51] <leaper> does anyone here know how to fix the "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode." error that I recieved when starting it up on a windows xp machine?
#4479 [22:51] <EntityReborn_> Get a new gfx card.
#4480 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes, update video card drivers
#4481 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn’t work, EntityReborn_’s got it
#4482 [22:52] <krcm0209> I though OpenGL was an option not a requirement?
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#4484 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#4485 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs on Java, and uses OpenGL
#4486 [22:52] <geno61> I can't look around while I'm walking. Could anyone tell me what is wrong?
#4487 [22:52] <krcm0209> Hmm, interesting
#4488 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> There is no directx involved
#4489 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Also, OpenAL for sound
#4490 [22:52] <EntityReborn_> geno61, reinstall?
#4491 [22:52] <krcm0209> Though Minecraft is still unplayable for me with the camera bug I'm experiencing
#4492 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Camera bug?
#4493 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Can you elaborate?
#4494 [22:53] <krcm0209> http://gsfn.us/t/2bf9l
#4495 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, strange. Have you tried reinstalling minecraft from scratch? uninstalled and reinstalled java?
#4496 [22:54] <geno61> I will try reinstalling
#4497 [22:54] <Nienna91> I'm having issues with running the game out of browser - it's saying that it cannot create the java virtual machine. I've tried creating .jar files and it won't work. and uninstalling both the game and java
#4498 [22:55] <xales> Nienna91: How much RAM does your computer have?
#4499 [22:55] <krcm0209> I have not tried an uninstall/reinstall, only a overwrite install. Do you think it could make a difference?
#4500 [22:55] <Nienna91> 4 GB
#4501 [22:55] <xales> krcm0209: Possibly
#4502 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> krcm0209 - Try wiping your .minecraft folder
#4503 [22:55] <krcm0209> I did
#4504 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> krcm0209 - saving “saves” of course
#4505 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> krcm0209 - Then try a complete wipe of java and reinstall it?
#4506 [22:56] <xales> Nienna91: Possibly your security software is blocking it from running
#4507 [22:56] <Nienna91> checked that too, it's set to allow
#4508 [22:56] <krcm0209> I'm going to try to wipe Java and do a clean reinstall. Might involve a restart. Be back soon hopefully
#4509 [22:56] <xales> Nienna91: Just as a test, try temporarily disabling the software completely
#4510 [22:57] <Nienna91> hmmm...ok
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#4512 [22:59] <Riffraffselbow> c08:3700:ffff::23:a5af PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Hello, I'm trying to get a 128^2 texture pack working, and because the wiki is down I'm not sure I'm doing it right. Could someone point me at the latest versions and instructions for the HD texture fix?
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#4514 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Oi.. the forums have been down as well, so I don’t know where to really point you in the direction of the HD fix
#4515 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Try #risucraft?
#4516 [23:00] <Riffraffselbow> c08:3700:ffff::23:a5af PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Or does that count as a mod and I need to go to Risucraft?
#4517 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> I think #risucraft would have a better idea
#4518 [23:01] <Nienna91> WOO! it worked!
#4519 [23:01] <Nienna91> thanks :)
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#4521 [23:01] <Skivvies> I need help, if you have the time to do so.
#4522 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Only if you tell us your problem Skivvies
#4523 [23:02] <Skivvies> I tried to download a theme, but once it downloaded, Minecraft stopped working. It said it needed the HD fix, but the link it tried to send me do was broken.
#4524 [23:02] <Skivvies> *send me to
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#4526 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> We can only really help you undo the damage, since the forums and wiki are down, don’t really know where or how to download the HD fix
#4527 [23:03] <Skivvies> That's fine.
#4528 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> Skivvies win/reinst
#4529 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Skivvies: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4530 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Skivvies: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4531 [23:03] <pachuco> Does anyone have the problem that they bought the game but its still beta if you fixed it help me
#4532 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is in beta..
#4533 [23:04] <pachuco> I bought the game
#4534 [23:04] <xales> Beta is the version of Minecraft that you buy.
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#4536 [23:05] * VoxelHead is back
#4536 [23:05] <pachuco> Huh i got the free version and it was Beta 1.6.6
#4537 [23:05] <pachuco> then i bought it and nothing changed
#4538 [23:05] <thefonz> how you find %appdata%?
#4539 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Pacer - Beta is not free, unless you pirated it
#4540 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Pacer - Beta 1.6.6 is the latest version out
#4541 [23:06] <pachuco> I got the free version off the website and it was 1.6.6
#4542 [23:06] <Skivvies> Haha! It works again!
#4543 [23:06] <VoxelHead> get away... you smell like feet!#@$~*@~
#4544 [23:06] <Skivvies> Thank you!
#4545 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - If you’re on windows, type in %appdata% in the search bar
#4546 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Skivvies - Glad to help
#4547 [23:07] <pachuco> and then bought the game and it didnt change
#4548 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Did it work before you purchased it?
#4549 [23:07] <thefonz> how do find the %appdata% folder?
#4550 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - Are you on windows?
#4551 [23:07] <pachuco> What the beta 1.6.6 works
#4552 [23:07] <pachuco> but all i have is play and that mod button
#4553 [23:07] <thefonz> i did nothing happend
#4554 [23:08] * cody1998 [cody1998@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4555 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Let me put it another way. Without having a premium account, there is no way of playing beta 1.6.6, unless you had a friend already log in who had premium status, or you pirated it
#4556 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Pacer - Beta 1.6.6 is the latest version of the paid version of minecraft
#4557 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> er
#4558 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> pachuco
#4559 [23:08] <pachuco> I have a premium account thats what i just bought
#4560 [23:08] <cody1998> hello
#4561 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Right, and you paid for SMP minecraft, which is currently beta 1.6.6
#4562 [23:08] <cody1998> i need help when you have the time
#4563 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft isn’t currently finished at all, the release date is scheduled for later this year
#4564 [23:09] <pachuco> So it will work later?
#4565 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> What you’re playing, is the latest version of premium minecraft
#4566 [23:09] <Awesomeness> Grey, could you please pm me?
#4567 [23:09] * SevFTW [SevFTW@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4568 [23:09] <cody1998> 11/11/11 wait no well maybe they dont know
#4569 [23:09] <pachuco> Ok that new stuff is coming out.
#4570 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - They’re planning on moving it
#4571 [23:09] <cody1998> ya a week later right?
#4572 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - You will get it when it’s out, like everybody else who paid
#4573 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - We don’t know
#4574 [23:10] <pachuco> OK thany you
#4575 [23:10] <pachuco> thank
#4576 [23:10] <thefonz> i still cant find %appdata%
#4577 [23:10] <cody1998> oh greyvulpine when you ghet a chance please help me
#4578 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - Did you put in %appdata% in your windows’s search bar, in the start menu?
#4579 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Just tell us your problme
#4580 [23:11] <thefonz> yes
#4581 [23:11] <cody1998> ok so
#4582 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - And what happens when you press enter?
#4583 [23:11] <cody1998> when i go to log into my server it says
#4584 [23:11] <thefonz> nothing comes up
#4585 [23:11] <cody1998> recv failed
#4586 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Is that the full error?
#4587 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Has it worked before?
#4588 [23:12] <thefonz> yup
#4589 [23:12] <cody1998> no and yes
#4590 [23:12] <thefonz> no
#4591 [23:12] <cody1998> the full message is umm like
#4592 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Please go to your server’s world folder, inside, you’ll see a players folder. Delete yourname.dat inside
#4593 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Then try logging in again
#4594 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - Nothing pops up at all?
#4595 [23:13] <cody1998> no its my friends server
#4596 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - What version of windows are you on?
#4597 [23:13] <thefonz> no
#4598 [23:13] <thefonz> xp
#4599 [23:13] <cody1998> i said mine?
#4600 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Hmm, then either your player profile on the server is screwed up, or there’s a connection problem on your friend’s end.
#4601 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Try connecting to s.nerd.nu
#4602 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> thefonz - Then go to your start menu -> Run -> type in: %appdata%
#4603 [23:14] <cody1998> ok brb
#4604 [23:14] <thefonz> found it thanks
#4605 [23:16] <cody1998> ya i was on it
#4606 [23:16] <cody1998> i got onto it greyvulpine
#4607 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - Then something’s wrong on your friend’s end
#4608 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> I’d recommend having him look at his configuration, perhaps a firewall issue
#4609 [23:17] <cody1998> noooo here you try connecting
#4610 [23:17] <cody1998> 108.60.199.178:26103.
#4611 [23:17] <cody1998> without the dot at the end srry
#4612 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> !check 108.60.199.178:26103
#4613 [23:18] <cody1998> its fine?
#4614 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> I’d have your friend move your player profile out of the /world/players folder, if that doesn’t fix it, have him check his security software
#4615 [23:20] <almostroot> Any recommendations on smoothing CPU usage spikes on client-side?
#4616 [23:20] <xales> almostroot: Turn off smooth lighting
#4617 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Turn off advanced opengl?
#4618 [23:20] <cody1998> ugh!me?
#4619 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - I’d have your friend move your player profile out of the /world/players folder, if that doesn’t fix it, have him check his security software
#4620 [23:20] <EntityReborn_> What does Adv. OGL do?
#4621 [23:20] * mib_ylc3cy [mib_ylc3cy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4622 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Forces CPU to take the load of some of the GPU calculations, makes the GPU only render stuff you see.
#4623 [23:21] <cody1998> but im a mod and ive built a nice cstle
#4624 [23:21] <EntityReborn_> hm
#4625 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> cody1998 - You’ll still be a mod, and stuff in the world is not affected.
#4626 [23:22] <cody1998> ok
#4627 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Only stuff in your inventory is cleared, as well as your location
#4628 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> But you’re a mod, you can /tp and /give yourself whatever you need
#4629 [23:23] <EntityReborn_> /item obsidian -1
#4630 [23:23] <EntityReborn_> xD
#4631 [23:24] <EntityReborn_> Jeeze, MCW is STILL down?
#4632 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#4633 [23:25] <cody1998> do i have him put it back in the folder after that?
#4634 [23:25] <EntityReborn_> No.
#4635 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> No
#4636 [23:25] <cody1998> no?
#4637 [23:25] <EntityReborn_> If it fixes the issue, it's corrupted, and can be deleted.
#4638 [23:26] <cody1998> but when i get on wont i not be a mod anymore?
#4639 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> mod status isn’t stored in the profile
#4640 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> It’s stored elsewhere
#4641 [23:26] <cody1998> and not have my house protected?
#4642 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Also stored elsewhere
#4643 [23:26] <EntityReborn_> cody1998, that file only stores your player's position and your inventory. -nothing else-
#4644 [23:26] <cody1998> ok i trust u guys!
#4645 [23:27] * EmpiresBane_ [EmpiresBane_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4646 [23:27] <EntityReborn_> Huh, never knew about F8
#4647 [23:27] <EntityReborn_> it's trippy
#4648 [23:28] <EntityReborn_> Especially as I have a Dot mouse on my Laptop.
#4649 [23:28] <EntityReborn_> s/Dot/dot style/
#4650 [23:28] <cody1998> alright i emaild him i trust you if im back or another cody is back its me and something went wrong!
#4651 [23:28] <cody1998> bye
#4652 [23:29] <EntityReborn_> k
#4653 [23:29] <EntityReborn_> Huh, the Curse message has changed.
#4654 [23:29] <EntityReborn_> It gave some percentage earlier.
#4655 [23:29] <EntityReborn_> As in, this morningish
#4656 [23:32] * dumpsauce [dumpsauce@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4657 [23:32] * mib_mv0cfs [mib_mv0cfs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4658 [23:32] <mib_mv0cfs> hey
#4659 [23:33] <mib_mv0cfs> can somebody please help me?
#4660 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> With?
#4661 [23:33] * Kimax [Kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4662 [23:33] <mib_mv0cfs> i cant play the game
#4663 [23:33] <mib_mv0cfs> i want to play online but it just shows a black box
#4664 [23:34] <mib_mv0cfs> and I have java to
#4665 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#4666 [23:34] * mib_9acjy4 [mib_9acjy4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4667 [23:34] <mib_mv0cfs> what do you meen?
#4668 [23:35] <mib_mv0cfs> like what computer or fire fox or safari?
#4669 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#4670 [23:35] <mib_9acjy4> can someone help me with muitiplayer problum
#4671 [23:35] <mib_mv0cfs> mac
#4672 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_mv0cfs - Has it worked before?
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#4675 [23:35] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, just setup CraftIRC and I get "unaccaptable character #FFFD special characters are not allowed in '<reader>', position 1316"
#4676 [23:35] <Gaming4JC> anyone had or know how to fix this? :(
#4677 [23:36] <mib_mv0cfs> yes
#4678 [23:36] <Gaming4JC> need it badly on my bukkit server
#4679 [23:36] <mib_mv0cfs> only twice though
#4680 [23:36] <xales> Gaming4JC: That's rather outside the scope of this channel. Perhaps asking in the craftirc channel might be appropriate? ._.
#4681 [23:36] <Gaming4JC> xales: the 28 people there seem asleep... :s
#4682 [23:36] <mib_mv0cfs> how do i do that?
#4683 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_mv0cfs - Try going to your ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft folder, and deleting everything inside except for saves
#4684 [23:36] <mib_mv0cfs> ok
#4685 [23:36] <mib_9acjy4> when i connect to a sever its says bad login what do i do?????
#4686 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_9acjy4 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#4687 [23:37] <xales> Gaming4JC: Try #bukkit then
#4688 [23:37] <Gaming4JC> xales: ok thanks
#4689 [23:37] <mib_mv0cfs> wait...
#4690 [23:37] <mib_9acjy4> yes
#4691 [23:37] <xales> mib_9acjy4: What is your username?
#4692 [23:37] <mib_mv0cfs> how do i get to libaray>
#4693 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_mv0cfs mac/reinst
#4694 [23:37] <VoxelHead> mib_mv0cfs: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4695 [23:37] <mib_9acjy4> killskills
#4696 [23:37] <VoxelHead> mib_mv0cfs: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4697 [23:37] <dumpsauce> when I try and start minecraft it says that it can't find an accelerated open gl mode, I have windows vista with an ati raedon hd 4500 gfx card, 4 gb of ram, and an i5 processor. I also tried updating my java. I have paid for this software.
#4698 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> dumpsauce - Update your video drivers from:
#4699 [23:38] <mib_mv0cfs> ehh whatever i just wont play the game thanks for trying though
#4700 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> dumpsauce gpu/amd
#4701 [23:38] <VoxelHead> dumpsauce: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#4702 [23:38] <mib_mv0cfs> cya
#4703 [23:38] <dumpsauce> my cards are updated
#4704 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_mv0cfs - Bye
#4705 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> dumpsauce - Have you checked?
#4706 [23:38] <dumpsauce> yeah I clicked search fro online updates and it said I was up to date.
#4707 [23:38] <dumpsauce> for*
#4708 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Windows update will never have updated drivers
#4709 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> You check for drivers from the manufacturer’s website, not device manager
#4710 [23:39] <dumpsauce> yeah, dell.com/drivers and I re-installed the driver
#4711 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> dumpsauce - Again, go to ati’s site and update drivers from there
#4712 [23:40] <dumpsauce> which download should I choose?
#4713 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> The one for your ati raedon hd 4500, on your operating system
#4714 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> There’s a little 4 step drop down list of options
#4715 [23:41] <dumpsauce> on step 3 I don't know what to choose?
#4716 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Radeon HD 4xxxx series
#4717 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> You have a 4500, right?
#4718 [23:42] <Kealper> wait
#4719 [23:42] <Kealper> are you sure it's an ati?
#4720 [23:42] <dumpsauce> yes, it brings me to a catalyst suite.
#4721 [23:42] <dumpsauce> 1 sec
#4722 [23:43] <Kealper> because intel's G45 onboard is also called like a 4500HD or whatever
#4723 [23:43] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper with:
#4723 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> <dumpsauce> when I try and start minecraft it says that it can't find an accelerated open gl mode, I have windows vista with an ati raedon hd 4500 gfx card, 4 gb of ram, and an i5 processor. I also tried updating my java. I have paid for this software.
#4724 [23:43] <dumpsauce> 4350* i'm mentally deficient but it is an ati
#4725 [23:43] <Kealper> oh, ok then, carry on
#4726 [23:44] * PyroPeter [PyroPeter@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4727 [23:44] <dumpsauce> Title File Size Version Date Posted Catalyst Software Suite 57.4 MB 11.6 6/15/2011 Description: Package Includes: Display Driver OpenCL Driver ATI Integrated Driver Catalyst Control Center
#4728 [23:44] <dumpsauce> do I choose that?
#4729 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> The suite, yes
#4730 [23:44] <dumpsauce> 27 seconds left...
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#4732 [23:48] <Foxcross> hay, im having a problem installing minecraft, i've downloaded it an when i go to run it it says something about java, and i know its up to date
#4733 [23:48] <xales> What, exactly, does it say?
#4734 [23:49] <Foxcross> could not create java virtual machine
#4735 [23:49] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#4736 [23:50] * mr_boo [mr_boo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4737 [23:50] <Foxcross> if i remember right its 4gb
#4738 [23:50] <Awesomeness> ??> foxcross win/dxdiag
#4739 [23:50] <VoxelHead> foxcross: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4740 [23:50] <VoxelHead> foxcross: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#4742 [23:51] <dumpsauce> worked!
#4743 [23:51] <dumpsauce> thanks people!
#4744 [23:51] <Awesomeness> That's nice
#4745 [23:51] <Awesomeness> <Cybergeek2021> Please don't PM me without permission. Lütfen izin lanet olmadan bana pm yoktur. Gelieve geen pm me zonder neuken toestemming. Prosím tě, já am bez sakra svolení. Ná cuir pm dom gan cead fucking. irc.mcintec.net #mcintec
#4746 [23:51] <Awesomeness> wtf
#4747 [23:51] <mr_boo> hello
#4748 [23:51] <Awesomeness> please ban him
#4749 [23:52] <Awesomeness> xales, plox network ban?
#4750 [23:52] <mr_boo> i got a problem
#4751 [23:52] <Awesomeness> XALES
#4752 [23:52] <Foxcross> VoxelHead: done http://pastebin.com/dKk7Zhk8
#4753 [23:53] <mr_boo> can some one help me
#4754 [23:53] <Awesomeness> Thanks
#4755 [23:53] <xales> mr_boo: If you tell us what the problem is, maybe
#4756 [23:53] <xales> Foxcross: Reinstall Java
#4757 [23:54] <Foxcross> xales: this is the java i had from a clean install and it didn't work, so how would it fix it?
#4758 [23:55] <mr_boo> when i go to play mc classic it says fatal error (7) and this just started happening 3 hours ago and it wont fix so i downloaded java and still gives me that error what do i do?
#4759 [23:55] <xales> Foxcross: Try playing in your browser
#4760 [23:55] <xales> mr_boo: Try a different browser
#4761 [23:55] <Foxcross> xales: works fine in the browser
#4762 [23:55] * chucknorrispain [chucknorrispain@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4763 [23:55] <mr_boo> like what
#4764 [23:55] <xales> mr_boo: Firefox, Google Chrome, etc
#4765 [23:56] <xales> Foxcross: Possibly your antivirus/security software is blocking it
#4766 [23:56] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4767 [23:56] <chucknorrispain> does anyone have that link to the wiki about making a minecraft server?
#4768 [23:56] <xales> ??> chucknorrispain smp/serversetup
#4769 [23:56] <VoxelHead> chucknorrispain: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#4770 [23:56] <VoxelHead> chucknorrispain: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#4771 [23:57] <chucknorrispain> k thx
#4772 [23:57] <almostroot> VoxelHead: chucknorrispain: Wiki is down.
#4773 [23:57] <chucknorrispain> yeah. oops
#4774 [23:57] <mr_boo> no i did google the only one i had and it still gives me the error code com.mojang.minecraft.minecraftapplet
#4775 [23:58] <almostroot> chucknorrispain: Windows or Linux?
#4776 [23:58] <chucknorrispain> well can u help me with a texture pack problem?
#4777 [23:58] <chucknorrispain> windows
#4778 [23:58] <almostroot> Can't help with the server on Windows, I can try with the texture pack. What's up?
#4779 [23:58] <Foxcross> xales: its not, i tried turning it off
#4780 [23:58] <chucknorrispain> well, can u just walk me thru on how to do it?
#4781 [23:59] <Foxcross> xales: could it be since im using xp?
#4782 [23:59] <almostroot> Are you loading a standard 16x16 texture pack, or a high-res one?
#4783 [23:59] <xales> Foxcross: Not likely
#4784 [23:59] <chucknorrispain> ?
#4785 [23:59] <mr_boo> nope doesn work gives me the same message
#4786 [23:59] <Foxcross> then im out of ideals
#4787 [23:59] <xales> mr_boo: Reinstall Java