#1 [00:00] <CosmicVoyager> oh yeah it also says Segmentation fault
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#4 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: seg faults are BAD its the computing equivalent of having a siezure while walking and falling flat on your face
#5 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: this vanilla server or bukkit with mods?
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#7 [00:03] <CosmicVoyager> its 1.9 server
#8 [00:03] <Trel> |Kiikun|: falling glat on your face into dog poop
#9 [00:03] <Trel> *flat
#10 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: i have a feeling theres a VERY BAD bug in the 1.9 server...
#11 [00:03] <CosmicVoyager> i cant go to new blocks
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#13 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Bye Trel.
#14 [00:04] <CosmicVoyager> i mean new chunks
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#20 [00:11] <CosmicVoyager> ok i switched back to 1.8 and it worls...but in 1.9 it crahses when i go to new chunk
#21 [00:11] <CosmicVoyager> are th maps not compatible?
#22 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> dunno. considering i saw someone commenting about not being able to open 1.9 maps in a map editor....
#23 [00:13] * |Kiikun| doesnt know why it woudl change though.
#23 [00:15] <Tris> is there a way to turn off experience for a server or make it so the orbs don't drop?
#24 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> Tris: dont think so.
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#26 [00:17] <Leito> Hey
#27 [00:17] <Leito> is that black screen issue still a thing?
#28 [00:17] <Leito> for macbook users?
#29 [00:18] <Silent_Samurai> I don't know, are you getting the issue?
#30 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> Leito: not sure.. there is an issue with 10.5.8 video drivers
#31 [00:19] <Leito> my fried is
#32 [00:19] <Leito> yeah hes on 10.5.8
#33 [00:19] <Leito> no fix for it?
#34 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> ??> Leito mac/10.5.8
#35 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Leito: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#36 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Leito: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#37 [00:19] <Leito> thank you sir
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#40 [00:24] <mib_g417s3> hello?
#41 [00:24] <mib_g417s3> is any1 there?
#42 [00:25] <josho945> hello?
#43 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> hi :P
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#45 [00:25] <josho945> this has probably already been asked about million times
#46 [00:25] <josho945> but
#47 [00:26] <josho945> im on a mac
#48 [00:26] <|Kiikun|> 10.5.8?
#49 [00:26] <josho945> yeah...lol
#50 [00:26] <|Kiikun|> ??> josho945 mac/10.5.8
#51 [00:26] <VoxelHead> josho945: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#52 [00:26] <VoxelHead> josho945: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#53 [00:26] <CosmicVoyager> strange i have an exact same mpa i can load in single player by not multiplayer
#54 [00:26] <josho945> *instant recognition*
#55 [00:26] <josho945> yeah
#56 [00:26] <josho945> same
#57 [00:26] <|Kiikun|> Leito: just asked not 10 minutes ago :P
#58 [00:26] <josho945> i had to get a minecraft.jar from another mac
#59 [00:26] <josho945> ohh
#60 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> josho945: the problem isnt with minecraft... well.. it IS in that it suddenly started using opengl 1.3 calls... and that os x 10.5.8 doesnt SUPPORT those calls.
#61 [00:28] <josho945> oh :/
#62 [00:28] <josho945> ty
#63 [00:28] <tanneralmighty> I havnt tried to play minecraft in a while, and now when i try to log in, i cant. it wont let me update or anything... any suggestions?
#64 [00:28] <|Kiikun|> its supposed to be fixed in one of the next few patches
#65 [00:28] <CosmicVoyager> What species are the npc villagers?
#66 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> tanneralmighty - Redownload the launcher
#67 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> tanneralmighty: does your client have news and the login buttons in the bottom right?
#68 [00:29] <josho945> do u need to have modloader?
#69 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: theyre Homo Testificus.
#70 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> :P
#71 [00:29] <tanneralmighty> ok, il give it a try
#72 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> and hi LurkingVulpine :P
#73 [00:30] <CosmicVoyager> they have small trunks
#74 [00:30] * GreyVulpine ninja-vanishes
#74 [00:30] * |Kiikun| agrees with Simon and Lewis in that they look Gonzo-ish
#74 [00:31] <josho945> umm
#75 [00:31] <josho945> kilkun
#76 [00:31] <josho945> it still does not work
#77 [00:32] <CosmicVoyager> villagers look like watto http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/45/Watto.jpg/250px-Watto.jpg
#78 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> josho945: thats pretty much the only mac fix i know :P
#79 [00:32] <josho945> it says i cant connect to minecraft.net
#80 [00:33] <|Kiikun|> josho945: have him redownload the client... and also...
#81 [00:33] <|Kiikun|> ??> josho945 error/cantconnect
#82 [00:33] <VoxelHead> josho945: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#83 [00:33] <VoxelHead> josho945: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#84 [00:33] <Leito> hey |Kiikun|
#85 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Can't really uninstall java on a mac
#86 [00:33] <josho945> ok
#87 [00:33] <|Kiikun|> :P
#88 [00:33] <josho945> how to check system time?
#89 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Upper right?
#90 [00:34] <josho945> OHH
#91 [00:34] <josho945> YEAH
#92 [00:34] <josho945> SORRY
#93 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> derp
#94 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> Leito: yesh?
#95 [00:34] <Kaito> werent tables added to minecraft in 1.8?
#96 [00:34] <Leito> |Kiikun|: I followed the steps on that thread/video and get a black screen on startup
#97 [00:34] <Leito> I removed the meta-inf folder and all
#98 [00:34] <josho945> y he give me ownership 4 a second?
#99 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: table is just a fence with a pressure plate
#100 [00:34] <Leito> ive installed many mods before
#101 [00:34] <josho945> oh yeah
#102 [00:35] <josho945> meta inf folder
#103 [00:35] <josho945> i forgot
#104 [00:35] <Leito> (I'm doing this over team viewer on a friends computer)
#105 [00:35] <josho945> lol
#106 [00:35] <Kaito> ooohh
#107 [00:35] <Kaito> alright
#108 [00:35] <Kaito> i thought he actually added them xD
#109 [00:36] <Leito> any ideas?
#110 [00:36] <josho945> omg
#111 [00:36] <|Kiikun|> Leito: sorry ^^; not really the mac person.
#112 [00:36] <josho945> blackscreen
#113 [00:36] <|Kiikun|> hey! Scott! you here?
#114 [00:36] <|Kiikun|> :P
#115 [00:37] <josho945> kilkun
#116 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> ok guess not.
#117 [00:37] <josho945> if this helps
#118 [00:37] <josho945> it only says the script 4 the page setup
#119 [00:37] <josho945> not the actual graphics 4 trhe client
#120 [00:37] <josho945> thid
#121 [00:37] <josho945> this*
#122 [00:37] <josho945> body { font-family: sans-serif; background-color: #222222; background-image: url('http://www.minecraft.net/img/bg.gif'); color: #e0d0d0; } a { color: #aaaaff; } hr { border: 0; color: #111111; background-color: #111111; height: 2px; } h3 { color: #ffffff; font-size: 16px; } img { border:0; margin:0; } .sidebar { padding:10px; vertical-align: top; } >
#123 [00:38] * |Kiikun| doesnt know how to troubleshoot macs beyond the 'client, forceupdate, java, 10.5.8 fix'
#123 [00:38] <josho945> oh
#124 [00:38] <josho945> voxel
#125 [00:38] <josho945> y u keep giving me ownership
#126 [00:38] <|Kiikun|> josho945: pastebin.com is your friend
#127 [00:38] <josho945> ??
#128 [00:38] <josho945> ok
#129 [00:38] <|Kiikun|> josho945: not ownership. mute
#130 [00:38] <josho945> it is sayng
#131 [00:39] <|Kiikun|> josho945: thats because mibbit is derp and fail
#132 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> mibbit's a horrible client, and says that
#133 [00:39] * |Kiikun| ninjas grey!
#133 [00:39] <josho945> voxelhead has given owner to !mibbit@sadaci.lnk.telstra.net
#134 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> What it should say is: VoxelHead sets mode: +q *!Mibbit@sadaci.lnk.telstra.net
#135 [00:39] <josho945> ok
#136 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> mibbit just thinks +q is ownership everwhere, and it's' not
#137 [00:39] <josho945> ok
#138 [00:40] * |Kiikun| doesnt get how q = owner though...
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#139 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> o = op, v = voice h = helpop...
#140 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Other IRCds, use +q for ownership
#141 [00:41] <josho945> ok
#142 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> +q is channel owner, +a is protected op, +o is op..
#143 [00:41] * |Kiikun| smacks the other ircds for being retarded
#143 [00:41] <josho945> well
#144 [00:41] <b0xxy> ~!&%+
#145 [00:41] <josho945> this has been no help at all
#146 [00:41] <josho945> goodbye
#147 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> b0xxy: language!
#148 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#150 [00:42] <VoxelHead> Mmm josho945.
#151 [00:42] <b0xxy> :o
#152 [00:42] <VoxelHead> wtf
#153 [00:42] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: eat a bucket of lava upsidedown.
#154 [00:42] <Kaito> stupid slimes
#155 [00:42] * VoxelHead eats a bucket of lava upsidedown.
#155 [00:42] <Kaito> spawn!
#156 [00:43] <Kaito> i need 6 more sticky pistons, at least!
#157 [00:43] <Kaito> >_<!
#158 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: they spawn rarely :P this a server or sp?
#159 [00:43] <Kaito> single player
#160 [00:43] <Kaito> im in the right chunk, below level 16
#161 [00:44] <Kaito> just hanging out till slimes spawn
#162 [00:44] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: if you dont feel its too cheaty.. pop onto peaceful for a sec to despawn other hostiles. slimes stay
#163 [00:44] <Kaito> I need 6 more to finish my boat dock
#164 [00:44] <|Kiikun|> Kaito:.. um you do know nothing spawns within 24 blocks of you, right?
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#166 [00:44] <Kaito> yes
#167 [00:44] <Kaito> and nothing further than 80?
#168 [00:45] <Kaito> by "hanging out", i mean digging my pit
#169 [00:45] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: nothing further than something liek 144... despawn quick outside 32.. atleast if hostile spawnign hasnt changed
#170 [00:45] <Kaito> which should be far enough away from my slime pit so they can spawn
#171 [00:45] <Kaito> ah
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#173 [00:46] <Kaito> I hate using iron tools
#174 [00:46] <Kaito> every 2 picks means i lose 64 railroad tracks, which i will need to build my rail station :(
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#176 [00:46] <Kaito> i really hope that 6 stacks of iron will be enough :P
#177 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: if your in the right area.. you should be making that iron back with profit..
#178 [00:47] <`HiGhRoLr> Hello, I can log into my profile on the minecraft website, but cannot use those same credentials to log into minecraft standalone client
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#180 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> `HiGhRoLr: redownload the client
#181 [00:47] <Kaito> it's hit or miss whether or not those iron picks net me back the iron i lost
#182 [00:48] <Kaito> sometimes i'll go through both picks without striking iron
#183 [00:48] <Kaito> other times, i'll hit 24 with just 1
#184 [00:48] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: go diamond pick? :P
#185 [00:48] <Kaito> nooo
#186 [00:48] <Kaito> 30 diamond is not enough to burn on a pick
#187 [00:48] <Kaito> :P
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#189 [00:49] * |Kiikun| always burns first 3 diamond on a pick.
#189 [00:49] * |Kiikun| still uses iron primarily.. but its a backu[
#189 [00:49] <Kaito> you got enough iron?
#190 [00:49] <`HiGhRoLr> Thanks Kiikun
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#192 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> `HiGhRoLr: no prob :3
#193 [00:50] * |Kiikun| has about 2 stacks from spelunking a ravine in SMP
#193 [00:50] <Kaito> niiiice
#194 [00:51] <Kaito> i got 256 rail tracks from exploring my abandoned mineshaft system
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#196 [00:51] <Kaito> i've gotten lost so many times, but my redstone/torch system for navigation works wonders :)
#197 [00:52] <|Kiikun|> torches always face way out?
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#199 [00:52] <Kaito> redstone and torch on the ground in a line, redstone is the tip of the arrow
#200 [00:52] * |Kiikun| wouldnt waste redstone like that
#200 [00:53] <Kaito> Im not using it at the moment, plus i have 5 stacks of it
#201 [00:54] <Kaito> the only thing im gonna use it for is my boat dock, and my rail system, which wont require much
#202 [00:54] <|Kiikun|> automated dock?
#203 [00:55] * |Kiikun| still needs to figure oput a way to prevent massive breakage of boats
#203 [00:55] <Kaito> not automated, just a lever that will activate pistons to push my boat out of the water
#204 [00:55] <Leito> ughhhhh
#205 [00:55] <Kaito> use cloth on the borders
#206 [00:55] <Kaito> i use a black/white alternation cloth pattern on the borders, so it's easy to find, and looks cool :P
#207 [00:55] <Leito> still having this black screen issue.. I feel really bad because I just bought the game for tho guy
#208 [00:55] <Leito> this*
#209 [00:57] <Kaito> I like my piston dock system because it
#210 [00:57] <Kaito> *it's super simple to do (hardest part is getting 4 adjacent pistons to go at the same time), works wonderfully, and my boat wont float away :)
#211 [00:58] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: sounds sorta like another i saw... there was a dropping floor for the boat to land on.. and a waterfall that pushed the boat to launch it.
#212 [00:59] <Kaito> i dont like that waterfall idea
#213 [00:59] <Kaito> sure, you can have it auto shut off...but my docks are in harbors, so it's kinda risky being pushed out ilke that
#214 [01:02] <Kaito> :) my cobblestone collection is going wonderfully
#215 [01:03] <|Kiikun|> pbbbt cobble...
#216 [01:03] <Kaito> soon, i shall being the awesome process of burning all of it into smooth stone, to being my rail station
#217 [01:03] <Kaito> :)
#218 [01:03] * |Kiikun| has smoothstone
#218 [01:03] <VoxelHead> =D
#219 [01:03] <Kaito> on one SMP server i had, i had 5 large chests full of stacks of smoothstone
#220 [01:03] <|Kiikun|> lol
#221 [01:03] <Kaito> 22x23x64 deep hole in the ground
#222 [01:03] <Kaito> that was fun to mine :P
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#224 [01:04] <Kaito> my plan for that hole was a "redstone citadel"
#225 [01:05] <Kaito> turns out the hole wasn't big enough, so i had to abandon it
#226 [01:05] <Kaito> was a nice slime spawner though :P
#227 [01:06] <|Kiikun|> oooh!!! *loves super-hidden entryways*
#228 [01:06] <Kaito> the idea for the redstone citadel was to basically have a bunch of redstone features
#229 [01:06] <Kaito> lockdown, flashing lights, etc
#230 [01:06] <|Kiikun|> ah.
#231 [01:07] <Kaito> however, that would have been WAY to complex for someone of my limited electrical engineering knowledge...so it kinda fell off the end
#232 [01:07] * |Kiikun| just saw a hidden door video where the switch was triggering off a redstone ore block
#232 [01:07] <Kaito> i'd have to have a computer to control it all :P
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#235 [01:08] <Kaito> i honestly think notch should introduce "bluestone": redstone mixed with, say, lapus lazuli, and they could carry different currents parallel to each other
#236 [01:08] <Kaito> imagine how compact circuits could be
#237 [01:09] <CosmicVoyager> i wish you could make microcircuits...you build a cirui, select the area to miniaturize and you get one block that does the same thing
#238 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> true... but i like the current system :P you HAVE to think out your wiring
#239 [01:09] <Kaito> CosmicVoyager, i had thought about that
#240 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: not possible and not minecrafty.
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#242 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> CosmicVoyager: if anything.. logic gate blocks..
#243 [01:10] <Kaito> Kiikun, while it's true you have to think it out, you can always opt to not use bluestone
#244 [01:10] <Kaito> much like me with beds
#245 [01:11] <Kaito> i chose not to use them until I started needing to change my spawn point
#246 [01:11] <Kaito> which turned out to be 24 real hours of gameplay
#247 [01:11] <CosmicVoyager> i want to be able to build anything like second life, but everyone be able to host servers instead of paying for space on the SL server
#248 [01:13] <Kaito> If bluestone were added, you'd need "transformers" to change from one color to the other, but other than that, no other blocks be added
#249 [01:13] <Kaito> just change redstone abundance (maybe +10%), make it such that it has to be mixed with something to change it, then there ya go
#250 [01:14] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: im seeing a blue torch and red torch done similar to a repeater
#251 [01:14] <Kaito> two separate currents that can be placed parallel to each other
#252 [01:14] <Kaito> exactly
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#254 [01:14] <Kaito> that would make redstone addicts VERY happy
#255 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: look up the RedPower mod and drool.
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#257 [01:16] <Kaito> im not a redstone addict :P
#258 [01:16] <Kaito> i lost interest when i took an electrical engineering class
#259 [01:16] <Kaito> completely shattered my interest in computers
#260 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> :P dont like em anymore since theyre not magic boxes?
#261 [01:17] <Kaito> no, it was that plus a shitty comp sci professor plus growing up that changed it
#262 [01:17] <Kaito> my current thought is a double major in poli sci and accounting
#263 [01:17] <Kaito> P
#264 [01:17] <Kaito> :P
#265 [01:18] <Kaito> >_>
#266 [01:20] <Kaito> SLIME!
#267 [01:20] <Kaito> D:
#268 [01:20] <Kaito> no slime balls
#269 [01:20] <Kaito> :(
#270 [01:21] <Kaito> god damn it
#271 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: you know you gotta punch them, right?
#272 [01:21] <Kaito> ...
#273 [01:21] <Kaito> i thought killing them in any way yielded slime balls
#274 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> nope.
#275 [01:21] <Kaito> sonofabitch
#276 [01:22] <Kaito> well, thank you
#277 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> only the tiny ones drop balls.
#278 [01:22] <Kaito> well
#279 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> overkilling larger slimes will cause them to NOT split
#280 [01:23] <Kaito> armed with this new knowledge, i shall now go to bed, then during the day when im at work, encase myself in a bunker a nice 40 blocks away from my slime cave
#281 [01:23] <Kaito> then when i get back, punch the fuck out of all the slimes
#282 [01:23] * AuBot kicked Kaito from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aito :Please keep it civil.)
#283 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> lol
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#285 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> kaito: just so you know.. you CAN swordbash the tiny ones
#286 [01:23] <Kaito> then after that, i will have my 6 sticky pistons
#287 [01:24] * |Kiikun| built a zipper elevator in SSP :P
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#288 [01:24] <|Kiikun|> in 1.7.3
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#290 [01:24] <Kaito> I hate that pistons cant pull more than one block
#291 [01:25] <Kaito> it'd make elevators easier and more functional
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#293 [01:25] <|Kiikun|> i'd only like it if stickys pulled stacks of only stickys and the last block in the string.
#294 [01:26] <Kaito> thats what im referring to
#295 [01:26] <|Kiikun|> otherwise im seeing massive breaking of everything
#296 [01:26] <Kaito> xD
#297 [01:27] <Ketsueki> |Kiikun|: sticky pistons only move one block back
#298 [01:27] <Kaito> actually...what im seeing is programmable piston-built houses
#299 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: i know that.
#300 [01:27] <Kaito> have, say, a 24x24 grid of pistons on the floor, then pistons that push blocks from a cobble generator into place
#301 [01:27] <Ketsueki> What's really retarded are physics blocks and pistons.
#302 [01:28] <Ketsueki> Kaito: wouldn't work.
#303 [01:28] <Kaito> it'd be absolutely amazing if it did
#304 [01:28] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: i LIKE my gravel+pistons :P
#305 [01:28] <Kaito> :P
#306 [01:28] <Kaito> whats with gravel+pistons?
#307 [01:28] <Ketsueki> Now maybe a 2 wide shaft (any dimension, but must be two wide) with normal pistons on the bottom but above that sticky ones to 'hold' the tower in place.
#308 [01:28] <Ketsueki> hum... no
#309 [01:28] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: i use gravel and pistons instead of towers of redstone torches :P
#310 [01:28] <Ketsueki> just more normal ones; say pressure's doing it.
#311 [01:29] <Ketsueki> Then you could have an actual shaft of physics effected material
#312 [01:29] <Kaito> whats the thing with gravel and pistons?
#313 [01:29] <Ketsueki> You could use other methods to add/remove blocks from the bottom of the stack.
#314 [01:29] <Kaito> does the gravel push the piston back?
#315 [01:29] <Ketsueki> This is just my hypothetical 'it might work with physics' example.
#316 [01:29] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZBLS4ixe48
#317 [01:30] <Ketsueki> What I'd much rather see is a hydraulic shaft. Using water physics drain a neighboring column to lift another.
#318 [01:30] * |Kiikun| has a 'cycling' stack
#318 [01:30] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: thees designs for 'counterweight' elevators
#319 [01:31] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: theyre just buggy in smp and slow otherwise
#320 [01:31] <Ketsueki> Yup
#321 [01:31] <Ketsueki> Sooo forget elevators and make portals with your modded server
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#323 [01:31] <Ketsueki> Or ladder shafts for going up and water-brake shafts for going down.
#324 [01:31] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: eh... the piston-spiralvator works fine
#325 [01:32] <Ketsueki> |Kiikun|: I sort of want to see that now... but it sounds REALLY slow and PITA to build.
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#327 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: the spiralvator? o.o times right its fairly fast.
#328 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: though... the FASTEST vertical motion is boat/minecart stafts
#329 [01:33] <Ketsueki> Minecarts float?
#330 [01:34] <|Kiikun|> minecart sitting on a ladder
#331 [01:34] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: its basicly hopping into the boat/minecart from beneith... repeatedly...
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#333 [01:37] <mib_wlyu1r> umm
#334 [01:37] <|Kiikun|> uhh
#335 [01:37] <mib_wlyu1r> can u help me with my minecraft?
#336 [01:37] <Ketsueki> ?? ask
#337 [01:37] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#338 [01:37] <|Kiikun|> maybe?
#339 [01:37] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#340 [01:37] <|Kiikun|> :P
#341 [01:38] <mib_wlyu1r> i hit minecraft on my desktop then i login then it goes black and just stays like that
#342 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> mib_wlyu1r: installed any mods ot texture packs?
#343 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> *or
#344 [01:39] <mib_wlyu1r> i just installed painterly
#345 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> mib_wlyu1r: did it work before painterly?
#346 [01:39] <mib_wlyu1r> yes
#347 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> ?? causality
#348 [01:39] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#349 [01:39] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#350 [01:40] <mib_wlyu1r> idk how to undo it i cant delete the file
#351 [01:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_wlyu1r: you cant FIND it to delete, or its not letting you?
#352 [01:40] <mib_wlyu1r> i try to find it but i cant
#353 [01:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_wlyu1r: windows?
#354 [01:41] <mib_wlyu1r> i looked in texture packs fule and it isnt here
#355 [01:41] <mib_wlyu1r> ea
#356 [01:41] <mib_wlyu1r> yea
#357 [01:41] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_wlyu1r win/.minecraft
#358 [01:41] <VoxelHead> mib_wlyu1r: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#359 [01:41] <|Kiikun|> mib_wlyu1r: wait.. HOW did you install painterly?
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#361 [01:41] <icedan> I ENTER.
#362 [01:41] * |Kiikun| sets icedan on fire
#362 [01:41] <mib_wlyu1r> well i went to its file and it said installer so i clicked it then it loaded
#363 [01:42] <icedan> Ok, I was just checking
#364 [01:42] <icedan> Seriously now, I am trying to buy this damn game
#365 [01:42] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_wlyu1r forceupdate
#366 [01:42] <VoxelHead> mib_wlyu1r: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#367 [01:42] <VoxelHead> mib_wlyu1r: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#368 [01:42] <icedan> And the website forces me to purchase through Moneybookers, which in turn are being assholes
#369 [01:42] * |Kiikun| thinks the painterly installer might be broken
#369 [01:42] <mib_wlyu1r> ok hold on a sec
#370 [01:43] <mib_wlyu1r> ok its working so far
#371 [01:43] <|Kiikun|> icedan: purchases for minecraft are only through moneybookers or paypal. and i asume by 'being assholes' (watch the language please :P) you mean theyre denying it.
#372 [01:43] <icedan> No, they're making me verify my stuff, which will take days to process
#373 [01:44] <mib_wlyu1r> ok it worked
#374 [01:44] <icedan> I just can't be bothered. I'd like to purchase through paypal, but the option is not given.
#375 [01:44] <|Kiikun|> oook... no idea about that.. but...
#376 [01:44] <mib_wlyu1r> but how do i get painterly
#377 [01:44] <|Kiikun|> icedan: um... click paypal as way to pay?
#378 [01:44] <icedan> Minecraft should be made available on Steam, that'll be nice
#379 [01:45] <icedan> Ok this will be the 3rd time I try
#380 [01:45] <icedan> Oh.
#381 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> icedan: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/9550850116/why-no-steam-notch
#382 [01:45] <icedan> Ok wait, when I enter VISA as my payment method, I enter my details in and then it takes me to moneybookers.
#383 [01:45] <icedan> Why does it do that?
#384 [01:46] <|Kiikun|> icedan: because when yuo pick visa (or any card basicly) it goes to moneybookers... you have to chose paypal
#385 [01:46] <icedan> Ok fine
#386 [01:46] <icedan> lol now Paypal is in Polish or something
#387 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Upper right, switch it to english
#388 [01:47] <icedan> I know, I'm not THAT stupid
#389 [01:47] <|Kiikun|> icedan: mojang is in sweeden... so i asume its in sweedish :P
#390 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Native currency/language is swedish/europe
#391 [01:47] <icedan> Svenska?
#392 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#393 [01:48] <icedan> Bloody sweedish
#394 [01:48] <icedan> And the swedish too
#395 [01:48] <|Kiikun|> icedan: its bloody sweeds that are makign this game :P
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#397 [01:49] <VoxelHead> Nn
#398 [01:49] <VoxelHead> *hugs*
#399 [01:49] <|Kiikun|> Vox... stop hugging yourself... you're scaring me...
#400 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Vox just wants a friieeeennd..
#401 [01:50] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: hug GreyVulpine
#402 [01:50] <|Kiikun|> aw
#403 [01:50] <|Kiikun|> ok.. im going to bed now
#404 [01:50] <|Kiikun|> night lurkpine!
#405 [01:51] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#406 [01:51] <icedan> I want to suggest moving PayPal to the top left and noting it as recommended!
#407 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Other people wanted something other than Paypal
#408 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Back in alpha, paypal was the only payment method available
#409 [01:54] <icedan> Who/what is Mojang?
#410 [01:54] <VoxelHead> Tied with the throwaway answer i suppose.
#411 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is the company that made Minecraft
#412 [01:55] <icedan> ok thanks im out bye
#413 [01:58] <AndrewPH> I love you VoxelHead.
#414 [01:58] <VoxelHead> Hehe, want to go out on a date someplace? :)
#415 [01:58] <AndrewPH> Yes.
#416 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Bye fysics.
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#421 [02:08] <MtJoy> Hi, my MineCraft is black screening when I try and run it
#422 [02:09] <MtJoy> I have tried running it in the browser and it freezes at the "Download Complets" screen and gors no further
#423 [02:10] <MtJoy> I have re-installed all my Java multiple times adn that doesnt seem to do it, can someone please help?
#424 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> MtJoy win/reinst/bat
#425 [02:12] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#426 [02:12] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
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#428 [02:14] <MtJoy> it says if my comp name has any "!" in it to tell the chal=nnel
#429 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Then.
#430 [02:14] <MtJoy> well it does have an "!" at the end
#431 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> MtJoy !
#432 [02:14] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#433 [02:14] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
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#435 [02:16] <MtJoy> that worked thanx a lot
#436 [02:16] <MtJoy> so will I have to do anything in the future or will that fix it for good/
#437 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Just use that file to launch minecraft from now on
#438 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you would have needed to make a new windows user account, one that doesn't have a ! mark in it
#439 [02:17] <MtJoy> cool thanks for your help
#440 [02:17] <ShapeShifter> windows usernames can have ! in them?
#441 [02:18] <ShapeShifter> never knew that.
#442 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#446 [02:27] <guest-0-80843> Is anybody here right now?
#447 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#448 [02:27] <guest-0-80843> I have a question /problem
#449 [02:27] <guest-0-80843> that i cant seem to find any info on
#450 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> We have answers /solutions
#451 [02:27] <guest-0-80843> my arm will flash black at random times and I am not sure if it is a bug or something on my computer
#452 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Hm. Using any custom skins/texture packs? What version of java are you runninng, what operating system is this on?
#453 [02:29] <guest-0-80843> this is windows 7 and i am not sure about the java version
#454 [02:29] <guest-0-80843> is there a quick way to tell>?
#455 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? java/version
#456 [02:29] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#457 [02:29] <guest-0-80843> *?
#458 [02:29] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#459 [02:30] <guest-0-80843> thank you it says I should update
#460 [02:30] <guest-0-80843> I will do that then see how it works out
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#463 [02:31] <Sebbe35> hello
#464 [02:31] <mib_3ygkjh> when i play minecraft in browser there is a grey screen
#465 [02:32] <Sebbe35> have you deleted bin folder
#466 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ygkjh - Has it ever worked before? Using any mods?
#467 [02:32] <mib_3ygkjh> has worked before not using mods and no i havent deleted bin folder
#468 [02:32] <Sebbe35> try to delete it then start minecraft again
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#470 [02:33] <mib_3ygkjh> the bin folder?
#471 [02:33] <Sebbe35> are you on mac or windows
#472 [02:33] <mib_3ygkjh> windows
#473 [02:33] <Sebbe35> or other
#474 [02:33] <Sebbe35> ok
#475 [02:33] <Sebbe35> vista xp windows 7
#476 [02:33] <mib_3ygkjh> xp
#477 [02:33] <Sebbe35> okay open run
#478 [02:33] <mib_3ygkjh> just kidding vista
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#480 [02:34] <guest-0-12201> That did not fix the problem
#481 [02:34] <Sebbe35> press windows flag and r
#482 [02:34] <guest-0-12201> it seems to be when I face certain directions
#483 [02:34] <mib_3ygkjh> ok
#484 [02:34] <Sebbe35> then open .minecraft and delete the bin folder in there
#485 [02:34] <Sebbe35> then start minecraft like normal
#486 [02:35] <mib_3ygkjh> thx it worked
#487 [02:35] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_3ygkjh.
#488 [02:36] <guest-0-12201> but ya updating did not work
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#491 [02:37] <Sebbe35> always fun to help people
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#493 [02:38] <guest-0-12201> any other suggestions about the arm issue?
#494 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-12201 - You're not using any custom textures at all?
#495 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-12201 - How about turning down some of the graphics in minecraft. If that doesn't work, uninstall/reinstall java, update video card drivers
#496 [02:41] <guest-0-12201> I am using a custom character, I updated java and reinstalled minecraft, graphics are turned down,
#497 [02:41] <guest-0-12201> how do i switch back to using default character?
#498 [02:41] <guest-0-12201> skin
#499 [02:41] <guest-0-12201> duh the template lol
#500 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> You can upload the default skin by logging back into minecraft.net and going to your profile page there
#501 [02:43] <guest-0-12201> it was not the skin
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#504 [02:48] <mib_f5ywxk> when i go into minecraft browser i get a grey screen. I delete the bin but it goes back to grey after about 5 min.
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#506 [02:48] <StunningGrowth> testing
#507 [02:48] <StunningGrowth> Anyone there?
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#509 [02:48] <mib_f5ywxk> can anyone help me?
#510 [02:49] <StunningGrowth> Perhaps, I probably can't.
#511 [02:49] <mib_f5ywxk> when i go into minecraft browser i get a grey screen. I delete the bin but it goes back to grey after about 5 min.
#512 [02:49] <StunningGrowth> No idea. I'm here with a problem myself. Sorry bro.
#513 [02:50] <StunningGrowth> I can't log into minecraft.
#514 [02:50] <mib_f5ywxk> ya its alright but ive asked it a lot and everyones idling
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#516 [02:53] <StunningGrowth> It seems like a lot of people's accounts are being deactivated and the issue hasn't been fixed?
#517 [02:53] <StunningGrowth> wtf
#518 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> StunningGrowth - Nope
#519 [02:54] <StunningGrowth> Nope to what?
#520 [02:54] <guest-0-12201> I still have the arm issue lol
#521 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Only reason that people are complaining, is either they've forgotten their user account (happens very frequently), or they bought the account from a site that isn't minecraft.net, and got scammed
#522 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft premium accounts don't get un-premium for no reason
#523 [02:55] <StunningGrowth> My account is legit, always has been. I have never changed my password or username. My password is set to be remembered. I have been logging in fine in the exact same way since alpha. Since 1.8 came out, I can no longer log in. I cannot download 1.8.1
#524 [02:56] <StunningGrowth> I assume this is 1.8's fault.
#525 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> StunningGrowth - Nope. Redownload the launcher
#526 [02:56] <StunningGrowth> Oh, okay.
#527 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> well, actually, yeah. 1.8 got a new launcher
#528 [02:56] <StunningGrowth> Er, how do I do that?
#529 [02:56] <StunningGrowth> I could find it, but just telling me seems quicker.
#530 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/download
#531 [02:56] <StunningGrowth> Thanks, man.
#532 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_f5ywxk - Hmm, try updating your video drivers, uninstall/reinstall java
#533 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Those are the two primary suspects in any minecraft problem
#534 [02:59] <StunningGrowth> Hey, man, it worked! Thanks! You really saved my ass.
#535 [03:00] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#535 [03:00] <StunningGrowth> Ah, 1.8.1 installed, just played for a sec. Thanks, GreyVulpine, all systems are go.
#536 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Glad you got it fixed
#537 [03:01] <StunningGrowth> Good luck with your problem fixin'.
#538 [03:01] <StunningGrowth> I'll ride off into the sunset now.
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#544 [03:17] <Dragonlight> hello?
#545 [03:17] <Dragonlight> pls help
#546 [03:17] <Dragonlight> hello?
#547 [03:18] <Dragonlight> why is my computer hanging when i open my inventory in 1.8.1
#548 [03:18] <Dragonlight> hello?
#549 [03:23] <Dragonlight> hello
#550 [03:23] <Dragonlight> notch?
#551 [03:23] <Dragonlight> jeb?
#552 [03:24] <Dragonlight> honeydew?
#553 [03:24] <Dragonlight> hello?
#554 [03:25] <Dragonlight> hello?
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#557 [03:26] <chrispokerfreak> hello
#558 [03:27] <chrispokerfreak> I´ve got a problem
#559 [03:27] <Dragonlight> hello?
#560 [03:27] <Dragonlight> me too
#561 [03:27] <Dragonlight> theyre not answering
#562 [03:27] <chrispokerfreak> yes i see
#563 [03:27] <Dragonlight> whats your problem
#564 [03:27] <chrispokerfreak> strange
#565 [03:27] <chrispokerfreak> when i open minecraft
#566 [03:28] <chrispokerfreak> and go into singleplayer
#567 [03:28] <chrispokerfreak> and open a world
#568 [03:28] <chrispokerfreak> the window turns black
#569 [03:28] <chrispokerfreak> and i cant do anything
#570 [03:28] <chrispokerfreak> whats yours?
#571 [03:28] <Dragonlight> me when i go to singleplayer then open my inventory in 1.8.1 my computer hangs
#572 [03:29] <ArcheKruz> What's your specs?
#573 [03:29] <chrispokerfreak> sry, cant help you
#574 [03:29] <Dragonlight> then i have to restart my computer
#575 [03:29] <ArcheKruz> OS, CPU, RAM, Graphics card, Java versions installed, Mods installed
#576 [03:29] <chrispokerfreak> yes good choice
#577 [03:29] <chrispokerfreak> mods installed how?
#578 [03:29] <Dragonlight> uuh
#579 [03:30] <Dragonlight> mods:
#580 [03:30] <Dragonlight> millenaire
#581 [03:30] <Dragonlight> single player commands
#582 [03:30] <chrispokerfreak> man, i hate support sites
#583 [03:30] <Dragonlight> modloader
#584 [03:30] <Dragonlight> thats what ive got for now
#585 [03:31] <chrispokerfreak> thank ya
#586 [03:31] <Dragonlight> im in windows 7
#587 [03:31] <chrispokerfreak> im in mac
#588 [03:31] <Dragonlight> i run in a laptop
#589 [03:31] <chrispokerfreak> i run in a mac mini
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#591 [03:31] <Dragonlight> oh and world edit
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#593 [03:32] <chrispokerfreak> so, swe crow could you help us please
#594 [03:32] <jayden_d8> please help me!
#595 [03:32] <chrispokerfreak> help us
#596 [03:32] <jayden_d8> when i try t play, theres just a black scrren!
#597 [03:32] <Dragonlight> my laptop's manufacturer is i think neo
#598 [03:32] <chrispokerfreak> the same with me
#599 [03:32] <chrispokerfreak> i hate black screens
#600 [03:33] <Dragonlight> help us
#601 [03:33] <Dragonlight> notch
#602 [03:33] <Dragonlight> jeb
#603 [03:33] <Dragonlight> mojang
#604 [03:33] <jayden_d8> i accidentalyy deleated a file and now i think im screwed!
#605 [03:33] <chrispokerfreak> me too
#606 [03:33] <Dragonlight> what version you guys play
#607 [03:33] <jayden_d8> 1.8.1
#608 [03:33] <chrispokerfreak> beta 1.8
#609 [03:33] <chrispokerfreak> .1
#610 [03:33] <Dragonlight> maybe you deleted meta inf
#611 [03:33] <chrispokerfreak> meta?
#612 [03:34] <Dragonlight> without any mods
#613 [03:34] <Dragonlight> yes meta
#614 [03:34] <chrispokerfreak> i dont understand
#615 [03:34] <jayden_d8> no, i deleted some file called, lang. 'something'
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#617 [03:34] <chrispokerfreak> why cant anyone help us?
#618 [03:34] <ArcheKruz> Dragonlight
#619 [03:35] <ArcheKruz> clear out your minecraft folder
#620 [03:35] <jayden_d8> i have wasted 40 bucks!!!!!!
#621 [03:35] <ArcheKruz> then log in with the launcher
#622 [03:35] <whidgle> So... hello I was told to come here to get help with my minecraft problems?
#623 [03:35] <ArcheKruz> it will automatically put a fresh install
#624 [03:35] <jayden_d8> yes
#625 [03:35] <Dragonlight> in minecraft's bin
#626 [03:35] <Dragonlight> theres something called
#627 [03:35] <Dragonlight> META-inf
#628 [03:35] <Dragonlight> i do log in with the launcher
#629 [03:35] <whidgle> I rented a server with some friends - but I cant log on to it...
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#631 [03:36] <chrispokerfreak> oh boy bye bye you fools
#632 [03:36] <whidgle> soo...?
#633 [03:36] <Dragonlight> is it whitelisted whidgle
#634 [03:37] <Dragonlight> if it is put your name in whitelist folder
#635 [03:37] <ArcheKruz> jayden
#636 [03:37] <whidgle> nope... Ill paste what I already wrote about my problems
#637 [03:37] <ArcheKruz> what's your system specs?
#638 [03:37] <whidgle> most of the times I log in I fall into a dark abyss with gray particles floating... other times I just fall and the world takes forever to load. When I try to access a chest or furnace it'll take approximately 15-30 seconds for it to open on my screen. If I mine out rock or plants - whatever actually - the block will disappear, then reappear, then dissapea
#639 [03:37] <whidgle> I have a Intel i5 2500k Sandy Bridge, 8 gbs of ram, nvidia 250gts, Wireless pci-e card and win7 64bit.
#640 [03:37] <VoxelHead> pciless Wire
#641 [03:37] <ArcheKruz> I am having the same problem
#642 [03:37] <Dragonlight> oh thats lag
#643 [03:38] <ArcheKruz> hmm
#644 [03:38] <Dragonlight> the same thing happens to me sometimes
#645 [03:38] <ArcheKruz> what version of JRE are you running?
#646 [03:38] <whidgle> and then I get like a lot of different java.socketnet exception errors where I get kicked off
#647 [03:39] <whidgle> ...nobody else is having these problems on the server, and I dont have any problems playing other online games
#648 [03:39] <Dragonlight> the thing about the reappering things is either you are too close to spawn or you have lag
#649 [03:39] <ArcheKruz> what are their OSes and architecture?
#650 [03:40] <whidgle> Tried different versions right now java 6 update 27 64 bit
#651 [03:40] <whidgle> same
#652 [03:40] <Dragonlight> maybe they have good internet connection
#653 [03:40] <whidgle> ...sorry win 7and 64bit as well
#654 [03:40] <whidgle> I have good internet connection 6 mb down 1 up
#655 [03:40] <whidgle> No problems playing dead island, l4d2...
#656 [03:41] <jayden_d8> so an someone help me?
#657 [03:41] <jayden_d8> please?
#658 [03:41] <Dragonlight> sometimes you will need the best internet
#659 [03:41] <jayden_d8> can someone please please please please help me?
#660 [03:41] <ArcheKruz> jayden
#661 [03:41] <Dragonlight> because the server maybe running on a far country
#662 [03:41] <jayden_d8> yes
#663 [03:41] <ArcheKruz> first, tell me your specs
#664 [03:42] <whidgle> Theres a lot of these problems floating around the net... and no solutions it seems. People thinking its a problem with Mojangs java coding in certain system environments
#665 [03:42] <jayden_d8> wat?
#666 [03:42] <ArcheKruz> whidgle, try troubleshooting compatibility
#667 [03:42] <whidgle> Troubleshooting compabiliti?
#668 [03:42] <whidgle> y*
#669 [03:42] <jayden_d8> wait, when i start mc and sign in, its a black screen
#670 [03:42] <ArcheKruz> tell me what is your operating system jayden, as well as your CPU brand and speed, your RAM, your video card etc
#671 [03:43] <Dragonlight> hey voxelhead
#672 [03:43] <jayden_d8> i dont know all that
#673 [03:43] <ArcheKruz> also tell us what version of jre you are using
#674 [03:43] <VoxelHead> -_-
#675 [03:43] <Dragonlight> jayden force update to recover the file you deleted
#676 [03:43] <ArcheKruz> okay
#677 [03:43] <jayden_d8> what the hell are u talking about?
#678 [03:43] <jayden_d8> whats jre, cpu
#679 [03:43] <ArcheKruz> try right-clicking "My Computer" then select properties
#680 [03:44] <whidgle> Arche could you elaborate a bit on the troubleshooting combability
#681 [03:44] <jayden_d8> yes,
#682 [03:44] <Dragonlight> go to options then force update
#683 [03:44] <Dragonlight> voxelhead help
#684 [03:44] <ArcheKruz> whidgle, I tested MC multiplayer on my old vista x86 box and I have no problems connecting to SMP servers
#685 [03:44] <ArcheKruz> and I was using the same JRE on that
#686 [03:44] <ArcheKruz> so the problem has got to be Windows &
#687 [03:45] <ArcheKruz> Windows7
#688 [03:45] <jayden_d8> no, it wont even show the main menu or anything!
#689 [03:45] <whidgle> ok... so you want me to turn on compability mode?
#690 [03:45] <Dragonlight> notch
#691 [03:45] <ArcheKruz> yeah
#692 [03:45] <whidgle> ok... will try
#693 [03:45] <ArcheKruz> Try running it under XP Service pack 2 mode
#694 [03:45] <Dragonlight> jeb
#695 [03:45] <Dragonlight> xephos
#696 [03:45] <Dragonlight> honeydew
#697 [03:45] <ArcheKruz> Dragonlight
#698 [03:45] <jayden_d8> dude, what the bloody hell is Xp service pack 2 mode?
#699 [03:46] <whidgle> Arche: Any other specific settings?
#700 [03:46] <Dragonlight> yes
#701 [03:46] <ArcheKruz> your problems are related to 3rd party mods, which are unsupported
#702 [03:46] <Dragonlight> even without mods
#703 [03:46] <Dragonlight> its like that
#704 [03:46] <ArcheKruz> That is why i am telling you, Dragonlight, to start over with a fresh install
#705 [03:46] <jayden_d8> can i get someone that could tell me how to restore minecraft!?
#706 [03:46] <Dragonlight> you mean force update again
#707 [03:47] <ArcheKruz> are you using windows or mac?
#708 [03:47] <Dragonlight> me
#709 [03:47] <ShaRose> jayden_d8 use force update, delete it and run the launcher, etc
#710 [03:47] <jayden_d8> how?
#711 [03:47] <Dragonlight> windows7
#712 [03:47] <ArcheKruz> no, jayden
#713 [03:47] <Dragonlight> go to options
#714 [03:47] <Dragonlight> then press force update
#715 [03:48] <jayden_d8> options in what?
#716 [03:48] <ArcheKruz> jayden, does it show the login menu?
#717 [03:48] <jayden_d8> yes
#718 [03:48] <Dragonlight> go to launcher then press options then press force update
#719 [03:48] <jayden_d8> oh, ok
#720 [03:48] <jayden_d8> its updating
#721 [03:49] <jayden_d8> so ill be able to play now
#722 [03:49] <Dragonlight> ok all mods will be gone
#723 [03:49] <whidgle> I get the java.net.socketexception: software caused connection abort and then I get kicked off my internet connection
#724 [03:49] <whidgle> It's doin that quite often... as soon as I search for servers in minecraft I get kicked off my internet connection
#725 [03:49] <Dragonlight> and freshh minecraft
#726 [03:49] <jayden_d8> cause i tried to get planes and vehicles mod
#727 [03:49] <Dragonlight> make sure mods are in 1.8.1
#728 [03:49] <jayden_d8> thank you
#729 [03:49] <jayden_d8> they were
#730 [03:50] <jayden_d8> bye, and thank you!
#731 [03:50] <Dragonlight> whidgle i get that a lot also because of suckish internet
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#733 [03:51] <Dragonlight> lets all ask a chat op
#734 [03:51] <whidgle> So next logical step would be to try to connect to net via cable?
#735 [03:52] <Dragonlight> uuuh i dont know
#736 [03:53] <Dragonlight> maybe
#737 [03:53] <Dragonlight> maybe not
#738 [03:54] <jayden_d8> ok, i tried to install too many items mod 1.8.1, then, black screen
#739 [03:55] <whidgle> But Dragonlight my internet is working fine as long as I dont use minecraft!?
#740 [03:55] <Dragonlight> have you updated
#741 [03:55] <VoxelHead> Have you updated... "hupdated"
#742 [03:56] <whidgle> me?
#743 [03:56] <jayden_d8> how do install too many items mod?
#744 [03:56] <Dragonlight> who you talking to voxelhead
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#746 [03:57] <Dragonlight> check youtube
#747 [03:57] <Dragonlight> tmi may need modloader
#748 [03:57] <Dragonlight> from risugami
#749 [03:57] <jayden_d8> i did, i learned how to do it, now, it shows nothing but a black scrren
#750 [03:58] <jayden_d8> mod loader?
#751 [03:58] <jayden_d8> whats that?
#752 [03:58] <whidgle> Jayden http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftdl.com%2Ftoo-many-items-mods-1-8%2F
#753 [03:58] <Dragonlight> theres something wrong with your minecraft
#754 [03:58] <Dragonlight> modloader
#755 [03:59] <Dragonlight> yes modloader
#756 [03:59] <Calinou> tmi doesn't need modloader
#757 [03:59] <Calinou> at least... IIRC.
#758 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#759 [04:00] <Dragonlight> risugami's modloader
#760 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> TMI doesn't need modloader to work
#761 [04:00] <whidgle> Download Too Many Items 1.8.1
#762 [04:00] <whidgle> Click Start -> run.
#763 [04:00] <whidgle> Type in there “%appdata%”
#764 [04:00] <whidgle> Then open .minecraft.
#765 [04:00] <Dragonlight> marglyph said it may help
#766 [04:00] <whidgle> Open bins.
#767 [04:00] <whidgle> Open minecraft.jar by using winrar or 7zip.
#768 [04:00] <whidgle> Drag all the contents of Too many items into minecraft.jar opened by winrar. * Usually called minecraft.jar folder*
#769 [04:01] <whidgle> Run!
#770 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> Forgot to delete meta-inf
#771 [04:01] <jayden_d8> didnt work
#772 [04:01] <Dragonlight> make sure minecraft is closed
#773 [04:01] <jayden_d8> and i deleated mate-inf
#774 [04:01] <Calinou> what is your operating system?
#775 [04:01] <whidgle> so does anybody know anything about these Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Read timed out
#776 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Got a program called teamviewer? Allows one of us to remote in and watch you install it
#777 [04:02] <jayden_d8> no
#778 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Grab it, download it, run it. PM one of us with the ID and password.
#779 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#780 [04:03] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#781 [04:03] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#782 [04:03] <jayden_d8> im not doing that, it should just work!!!!!
#783 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it should, but you're installing it wrong for some reason
#784 [04:03] <jayden_d8> im not good with computers
#785 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Without seeing how you're actually installing it, we don't know what you're doing wrong
#786 [04:04] <Dragonlight> maybe your putting it in a folder accidently
#787 [04:04] <jayden_d8> i extract the mod files (invedit) into minecraft.jar
#788 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Teamviewer gives us the option of seeing how you're doing it, and also to assist in whatever you don't understand how to do
#789 [04:04] <whidgle> Jayden: You should do the teamviewer - it takes no time - some guy did it for me a couple of weeks ago
#790 [04:04] <whidgle> very easy to setup
#791 [04:05] <jayden_d8> ill try one more time, then ill do teamviewer, ok
#792 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - First off. Where did you download toomanyitems from?
#793 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's the 1.8.1 version of TMI?
#794 [04:05] <Dragonlight> my problem is when i open my inventory in 1.8.1 my computer hangs then i 'd have to restart it
#795 [04:05] <whidgle> So can anybody tell me if I should just settle being done playing MC?
#796 [04:05] <Calinou> prefer downloading mods from the minecraft forum, external sources may not work or even contain malware
#797 [04:06] * GreyVulpine agrees with Calinou.
#797 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Does it occur with all servers? Or just one?
#798 [04:07] <Dragonlight> thats why i download from minecraft forrums or planetminecraft
#799 [04:07] <whidgle> tried 2 other public servers - and yes unfortunately same problem
#800 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Then, are you running any sort of security software or firewall whidgle?
#801 [04:07] <Dragonlight> maybe the server is in a far country
#802 [04:07] <whidgle> I've tried both java7 64-bit version and the normal 32-bit version. I reinstalled minecraft... we tried restarting the server... I had my friend delete my character on the server and start over... I tried portforwarding on my router... I tried turning off my firewall... I tried logging on to two public servers to see if the problems persist - it did! I pinged
#803 [04:07] <whidgle> sorry
#804 [04:07] <whidgle> I've tried both java7 64-bit version and the normal 32-bit version.
#805 [04:07] <whidgle> I reinstalled minecraft...
#806 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> What firewall do you have?
#807 [04:07] <whidgle> we tried restarting the server...
#808 [04:08] <whidgle> windows firewall
#809 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Anything else?
#810 [04:08] <whidgle> I tried turning off my firewall
#811 [04:08] <whidgle> I had my friend delete my character on the server and start over...
#812 [04:08] <whidgle> I tried portforwarding on my router...
#813 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other firewall on your computer?
#814 [04:08] <whidgle> I pinged the server and got an average of 56 ms'
#815 [04:08] <whidgle> no other firewall
#816 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#817 [04:08] <whidgle> the server is setup in france
#818 [04:08] <jayden_d8> ok someone send me the link to teamviewer
#819 [04:08] <whidgle> ...Im running avast
#820 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#821 [04:09] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#822 [04:09] <Dragonlight> jayden here is the proper link of TMI
#823 [04:09] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#824 [04:09] <Dragonlight> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/140684-19pre-toomanyitems-in-game-invedit-sep-22/
#825 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Avast, the free antivirus, or the security suite?
#826 [04:09] <whidgle> free antivirus
#827 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright, that wouldn't have the web/firewall protection...
#828 [04:10] <jayden_d8> im installing teamviewer, what should i select for part 2 of installation
#829 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Try connecting to the server - s.nerd.nu and see if it does it still
#830 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - "Run"
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#832 [04:11] <jayden_d8> it gives me 3 options to use teamviewer, which one?
#833 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - What are the options?
#834 [04:11] <jayden_d8> personal or company or both
#835 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Personal
#836 [04:12] <whidgle> So I just need to write s.nerd.nu in the server address right?
#837 [04:12] <jayden_d8> now what?
#838 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Yes
#839 [04:12] <mib_gbmphd> hello I have a problem wit login in into minecraft wile I have no problem loging in to the site
#840 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Did it install?
#841 [04:12] <jayden_d8> yes
#842 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_gbmphd - Redownload the launcher
#843 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Run it. You should see a 9 digit ID, and a 4 digit password
#844 [04:13] <whidgle> As soon as I startup minecraft my Internet goes down so...
#845 [04:13] <whidgle> As soon as I startup minecraft my Internet goes down so...
#846 [04:13] <jayden_d8> yes
#847 [04:13] <mib_gbmphd> already tried several times
#848 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_gbmphd - What is the actual error when you try to login
#849 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - PM me those. Use /msg GreyVulpine
#850 [04:13] <mib_gbmphd> login failed
#851 [04:14] <Calinou> what version of java do you use?
#852 [04:14] <jayden_d8> do i give ID?
#853 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you redownloaded the launcher mib_gbmphd?
#854 [04:14] <Calinou> what is your operating system?
#855 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Yes
#856 [04:14] <jayden_d8> over this
#857 [04:14] <Calinou> type /msg GreyVulpine <ID here> <password here>
#858 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#860 [04:14] <jayden_d8> type on teamviewer or on this web
#861 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> On here
#862 [04:15] <mib_gbmphd> sorry i readed it wrong
#863 [04:15] <mib_gbmphd> I haven't redownload it
#864 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_gbmphd - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#865 [04:15] <mib_gbmphd> how can I do that without having to pay twice?
#866 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#867 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Just go to minecraft.net/download, and choose the launcher that's appropriate for your operating system
#868 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> The launcher is free to download.
#869 [04:16] <mib_gbmphd> ok thank you gonna try if it works
#870 [04:16] <jayden_d8> ok now what
#871 [04:17] <jayden_d8> grey?
#872 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Did you leave teamviewer up, or did you close it?
#873 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> I cannot connect to you
#874 [04:17] * Kealper yawns
#874 [04:17] <jayden_d8> team viewer is still p
#875 [04:17] <jayden_d8> up
#876 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Send me your ID again, it's wrong
#877 [04:18] <whidgle> So... how do one make Mojang aware of this problem that Im not the only one having and they should try to fix?
#878 [04:18] <jayden_d8> with spaces
#879 [04:18] * Kealper punches in on the time clock
#879 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#880 [04:18] <mib_gbmphd> ok it worked thank you
#881 [04:18] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#881 [04:18] <Kealper> whidgle: well, what problem is it? they might already know....if it's something they don't, then what grey said
#882 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> internet cuts out when connecting to a server
#883 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> or read timed out
#884 [04:19] <Kealper> oh...that "problem"
#885 [04:19] <Kealper> i thought they fixed that with the packet buffering :/
#886 [04:19] <whidgle> :) - what does that mean Kealper?
#887 [04:19] <jayden_d8> hey grey? want me to send ID again?
#888 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> jayden_d8 - Still waiting on you to send that ID
#889 [04:19] <whidgle> So somebody actually knows there is a problem?
#890 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Was apparently fixed before...
#891 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> You can do a search for it at getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#892 [04:20] <Kealper> whidgle: it used to happen quite a lot, basically when it happened before it usually was because the person was either running a sub-par firewall software or the person's NIC (internet card) was unable to handle Minecraft's horrid network code
#893 [04:20] <jayden_d8> i did it again greyvulpine.
#894 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Send me the 4 digit password again. it's not right
#895 [04:21] <Kealper> but as of a few releases ago, they added something that fixed that issue and i've not seen any similar sort of problem since then...until you :/
#896 [04:21] <jayden_d8> 6626
#897 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Thank you
#898 [04:21] <jayden_d8> is it working?
#899 [04:21] <whidgle> ahahahaha still not a listed problem even in minecraft wiki when you can do this: 7260 topics found for "Internal exception: Java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out " SEVEN THOUSAND TOPICS. :-o
#900 [04:22] <Kealper> whidgle: because technically it isn't a problem with the game, it's a problem with the computer you're trying to play it on, -OR- it's a problem with some software you are running on said computer
#901 [04:22] <whidgle> OR - it's a problem with Mojangs coding
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#903 [04:22] <Kealper> whidgle: so, since i just got here and am unable to see anything that happened while i was afk...what all have you tried?
#904 [04:23] <Totorb2x> Hi every body
#905 [04:23] <Kealper> Totorb2x: ello
#906 [04:23] <whidgle> Since so many different people are having the problems and as I said before everything works fine without minecraft
#907 [04:23] <Totorb2x> Someone can help me ? i ve a big trouble with my PEZ dispenser ;-(
#908 [04:24] <whidgle> Kealper: tried the compability mode - with internet cutting off. Tried connecting to the s.nerd.nu server got End of stream error message
#909 [04:24] <whidgle> Kealper: Do you mean before this session as well?
#910 [04:24] <Kealper> Totorb2x: uhh...pez dispenser?
#911 [04:25] <Totorb2x> Is the name of a Minecart dispenser, used for a metro system
#912 [04:25] <Kealper> whidgle: well, do you have any firewall or antivirus software installed? (like ZoneAlarm and such) also, has it worked before, or has it always done this?
#913 [04:26] <Kealper> Totorb2x: oh, you're on your own then, i can't say i know how to work with those (although i'm pretty sure i've seen what you are talking about)
#914 [04:26] <Totorb2x> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv53f-B9UuY this for exemple
#915 [04:26] <whidgle> Okay... I have windows firewall and Avast free antivirus. Never really played Minecraft online before so wouldnt know. List of what I tried coming up...
#916 [04:26] <whidgle> I've tried both java7 64-bit version and the normal 32-bit version.
#917 [04:27] <whidgle> I reinstalled minecraft...
#918 [04:27] <whidgle> we tried restarting the server...
#919 [04:27] <whidgle> I had my friend delete my character on the server and start over...
#920 [04:27] <whidgle> I tried portforwarding on my router...
#921 [04:27] <whidgle> I tried turning off my firewall...
#922 [04:27] <Kealper> Totorb2x: i must build one of these...lol
#923 [04:27] <whidgle> I tried logging on to two public servers to see if the problems persist - it did!
#924 [04:27] <whidgle> I pinged the server and got an average of 56 ms
#925 [04:27] <Totorb2x> the probleme is : minecart self distruct after a random time
#926 [04:28] <Totorb2x> and i don't know why
#927 [04:28] <Kealper> Totorb2x: that video is for 1.7 though, 1.8 might have "fixed" something that made it stop working correctly :/
#928 [04:29] <Totorb2x> tried on 1.7 too, same probleme
#929 [04:29] <Dragonlight> hello
#930 [04:29] <Kealper> whidgle: hmm...do you have any other computers in your house to test Minecraft on? (to see if it's a problem with your network or your computer)
#931 [04:29] <Kealper> Dragonlight: ello
#932 [04:30] <Dragonlight> I took a bath
#933 [04:30] <whidgle> I doubt it'll manage, but Ill try
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#935 [04:30] <Kealper> whidgle: well, it doesn't have to run good, it just has to start and connect to a server :P
#936 [04:30] <Dragonlight> When i play minecraft 1.8.1 and open inventory my computer hangs
#937 [04:31] <whidgle> :) problem is - that old s*** laptop kinda overheats trying to work too hard
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#939 [04:31] <Dragonlight> then id have to restart
#940 [04:31] <whidgle> but Im on it
#941 [04:32] <Kealper> Dragonlight: that's.....and interesting bug, i can't say i've heard that before...what OS are you on? what are your computer's basic specs like CPU, RAM, graphics card?
#942 [04:32] <Totorb2x> maybe someone know a other dispenser methode ?
#943 [04:33] <Kealper> Totorb2x: i seen a video somewhere else of a different method....trying to find it right now
#944 [04:33] <whidgle> ohh... and the clip and paste thing about 7000 posts is incorrect. It's up to a wooping 12500
#945 [04:33] <Totorb2x> ok
#946 [04:34] <Kealper> whidgle: yeah, most of those will probably be from a few months ago, the problem was rather wide-spread before they found why it was doing it and fixed it...which is again why i say it's odd that you're having the issue :/
#947 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> TMI install fixed, wrong version.
#948 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't the one from the forums
#949 [04:36] <Kealper> Totorb2x: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCijskrsphk check out that one, it still isn't the same type as i remember seeing, but it has a bit different one
#950 [04:36] <Totorb2x> thx, i try
#951 [04:38] <whidgle> Okay... thank you guys - narrowing in on the problem here. From very short testing the s**** laptop had no problems
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#953 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Then network problems on the other computer, bad NIC?
#954 [04:38] <whidgle> meaning my wifi card?
#955 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#956 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a driver update for it, if you can find drivers for it
#957 [04:39] <whidgle> #¤"%!"!!!(put some skulls in there as well) this is my third wireless card I bought to function with win 7
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#959 [04:39] <whidgle> and for the first time... it's actually been working
#960 [04:39] <Kealper> whidgle: are you just going for cheap?
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#963 [04:40] <Cappe2002> kan någon hjälpa mig?
#964 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Also, is it an actual WiFi card, or a usb thing, or something else?
#965 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> whoops, forgot the ending underline at the end of card
#966 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Cappe2002 - English?
#967 [04:41] <whidgle> Maybe... The one I have in now is an Asus Pce-n10 (pci-e), I have a Linksys WMP600N (pci) in my drawer and another Obscure Jensen Brand USB Dongle I use for my Ubuntu installatino
#968 [04:41] <Cappe2002> i need help to understand how o play multiplayre
#969 [04:41] <whidgle> installation
#970 [04:42] <Kealper> where's our resident Swede when you need him lol
#971 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Cappe2002 - You just need to find a server IP, and enter it into Multiplayer -> direct connect
#972 [04:42] <whidgle> Kan du forstå dansk?
#973 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Cappe2002 - Try "s.nerd.nu"
#974 [04:42] <whidgle> :)'
#975 [04:42] <Cappe2002> i keep getting bad username
#976 [04:42] <Cappe2002> aha ok
#977 [04:43] <Cappe2002> i get bad login
#978 [04:43] <Kealper> whidgle: hmm...and only that one of those three work on Windows 7? (have you tried actually googling drivers?)
#979 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> Cappe2002 - Did you pay for a minecraft account?
#980 [04:43] <Cappe2002> yes i did
#981 [04:43] <Kealper> Cappe2002: try closing completely out of Minecraft and opening it again
#982 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> ^
#983 [04:43] <whidgle> Yes... even though the other linksys says on the box to be compliant with win7 64-bit
#984 [04:44] <Cappe2002> thanks
#985 [04:44] <whidgle> Ive been trying last updated drivers from manufacturers - when that didnt work I tried last updated chipset drivers. Actually I think Im running chipset drivers on this one to get it to work
#986 [04:44] <Cappe2002> going to let my son play now
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#988 [04:47] <Cappe2002> where do i find a list for servers that i can just connect for my son?
#989 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> ??> Cappe2002 smp/servers
#990 [04:47] <VoxelHead> Cappe2002: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#991 [04:47] <VoxelHead> Cappe2002: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#992 [04:48] <Kealper> owe....that hurt....knee popped out of socket
#993 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#994 [04:48] <Kealper> trick knee :/
#995 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Ow.
#996 [04:48] <Kealper> if i fold my legs just right it dislocates ._.
#997 [04:48] * GreyVulpine has a trick shoulder(s).
#997 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Constantly pops in and out.
#998 [04:48] <Kealper> owe
#999 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Bah, diablo 3 delayed until 2012
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#1001 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Thanks blizzard..
#1002 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Oh, speaking of late releases. Haven't heard anyting from Valve and its portal 2 DLC in forever
#1003 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Didn't valve promise the DLC release for "summer"?
#1004 [04:51] <Kealper> valve-time
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#1006 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> "Summer" officially ended 2 days ago...
#1007 [04:51] <Kealper> they meant NEXT summer :P
#1008 [04:51] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at Valve Time
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#1009 [04:53] <Dragonlight> summer for me ended 4 months ago
#1010 [04:53] <Kealper> summer....started 4 months ago
#1011 [04:54] <Kealper> or was that your point? lol
#1012 [04:54] <whidgle> Well, thanks for the help guys. I'll try and install my other wifi card and see if that helps
#1013 [04:54] <Kealper> whidgle: yeah, you said you had a linksys one didn't you?
#1014 [04:54] <Dragonlight> summer in my country ended 4 mobths ago
#1015 [04:54] <whidgle> yes the wmp 600n
#1016 [04:54] <whidgle> ring a bell?
#1017 [04:55] <Dragonlight> months*
#1018 [04:55] <Kealper> whidgle: i see no reason why that one shouldn't work, did it come with a disc? (do you have Windows Update enabled?)
#1019 [04:55] <Dragonlight> march-may
#1020 [04:55] <Dragonlight> my problem is
#1021 [04:55] <Kealper> Dragonlight: are you in like..Russia or something? lol
#1022 [04:55] <whidgle> Il just find drivers on net I think. Problem has been that windows automaticallly finds the wrong drivers that it think should work
#1023 [04:55] <Dragonlight> no lol
#1024 [04:56] <Dragonlight> im in somewhere asia
#1025 [04:56] <Dragonlight> guess where
#1026 [04:56] <Dragonlight> my problem is
#1027 [04:56] <Dragonlight> when i
#1028 [04:57] <Kealper> Dragonlight: the Phillipines?
#1029 [04:57] <Kealper> (sorry i probably killed that spelling)
#1030 [04:57] <Dragonlight> how d you know
#1031 [04:57] * Kealper is magic
#1031 [04:57] <Dragonlight> its philippines
#1032 [04:57] <Dragonlight> double p
#1033 [04:57] <Kealper> meh, i was close lol
#1034 [04:57] <Dragonlight> at the last part
#1035 [04:58] <Dragonlight> when i go to singleplayer
#1036 [04:58] <Dragonlight> then
#1037 [04:58] <Dragonlight> open my inventory
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#1039 [04:58] <Dragonlight> my computer hangs
#1040 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Tried a new world?
#1041 [04:59] <Dragonlight> no
#1042 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps you had some sort of modded item in your old inventory
#1043 [04:59] <Erik> Um, hello
#1044 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Didn't have the mod anymore, the game had no information on it, and it'll crash when it tries to load that non-existant mod item
#1045 [04:59] * GreyVulpine waves at Erik
#1045 [04:59] <Erik> Could somebody help me? :I
#1046 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Erik - Only if you tell us with what
#1047 [04:59] <Dragonlight> modded item you mean spawned with spp
#1048 [04:59] <Erik> Great
#1049 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Dragonlight - I don't know.
#1050 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Dragonlight - Try a different Single Player world
#1051 [04:59] <Erik> Okay, so, for some week ago, I was here
#1052 [05:00] <Dragonlight> i mean spc
#1053 [05:00] <Erik> Discussing what was the wrong on my graphic card
#1054 [05:00] <Erik> With another guy, called ngalan
#1055 [05:00] <Dragonlight> ngalan thats familiar
#1056 [05:00] <Erik> We came to a solution that I have to uninstall all my drivers and then install a new
#1057 [05:00] <Dragonlight> well because ngalan means noun in my country
#1058 [05:01] <Erik> Though, while I was in the process, my limited internet shut off
#1059 [05:01] <Erik> and I couldn't proceed
#1060 [05:01] <Dragonlight> lets watch the yogscast
#1061 [05:02] <Dragonlight> you were installing then
#1062 [05:02] <Erik> So, I followed this guide of how to use driver sweeper and how to uninstall and install drivers
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#1064 [05:02] <Dragonlight> it shut off
#1065 [05:02] <Dragonlight> or you uninstalled while the internet shut of
#1066 [05:02] <Erik> I did everything, but the new driver I installed don't work quite well
#1067 [05:03] <Erik> Dragonlight, I install while the internet shut off
#1068 [05:03] <Erik> uninstalled*
#1069 [05:03] <Erik> Anyway
#1070 [05:03] <Erik> This reinstalled driver wont work
#1071 [05:04] <Erik> and it looks really bad
#1072 [05:05] * KetjuRasvaHillo [KetjuRasvaHillo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1073 [05:05] <KetjuRasvaHillo> er
#1074 [05:05] <KetjuRasvaHillo> how do i reset my server/can i even do it
#1075 [05:05] <KetjuRasvaHillo> with the standard minecraftserver.exe
#1076 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Reset, as in regenerate the world?
#1077 [05:06] <KetjuRasvaHillo> yeah
#1078 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Delete the /world folder
#1079 [05:06] <KetjuRasvaHillo> we... raped it
#1080 [05:06] <KetjuRasvaHillo> where is the folder
#1081 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Same place where you have minecraft_server.exe
#1082 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Erik - Could you elaborate on what you mean by, "it looks really bad"?
#1083 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Erik - Got a screenshot or something you can show us?
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#1085 [05:09] <Dragonlight> hey
#1086 [05:09] <Dragonlight> hey
#1087 [05:09] <Erik> Oh sorry
#1088 [05:09] <Erik> Greyvulpine
#1089 [05:09] <Erik> It's hard to explain
#1090 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Take a screenshot, upload it to a site like imgur.com and give us the URL to the picture
#1091 [05:09] <Erik> But it's like, everytime the screen refreshes, you see how it loads from up to down
#1092 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm..
#1093 [05:10] <Erik> I checked display option in properties when right clicking
#1094 [05:10] <Erik> and I discovered that I don't have any driver at all running at the moment
#1095 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag
#1096 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1097 [05:11] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1098 [05:11] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1099 [05:11] <Erik> I know how pastebin works
#1100 [05:11] <Dragonlight> stockholm and miami
#1101 [05:12] <Erik> http://pastebin.com/QNeGKFhU
#1102 [05:12] <Dragonlight> what do i do when i open my inventory then it hangs and id have to restart the computer
#1103 [05:12] <Erik> Here you go
#1104 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Dragonlight - have you tried making a new SP world?
#1105 [05:13] <Dragonlight> no
#1106 [05:14] <Dragonlight> but all my creations are on this world
#1107 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Dragonlight - Try making a new SP world
#1108 [05:14] <Erik> Have you looked at my dxdiag?
#1109 [05:14] <Erik> :O
#1110 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Erik - One moment
#1111 [05:14] <Erik> Alright.
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#1113 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Erik - You have a ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series video card, running on Windows XP Home Edition. The drivers you want to download and install are at:
#1114 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_xp-32.aspx
#1115 [05:17] <Dragonlight> what how'd you know
#1116 [05:17] <Erik> Actually, i have installed this 3 times to be honest
#1117 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Erik - Your system shows no video drivers at all installed
#1118 [05:18] <Erik> That's really odd
#1119 [05:19] <Dragonlight> indeed
#1120 [05:19] <Erik> It's strange, because when I look into the folder where it should be installed at, it's just blank
#1121 [05:19] <Dragonlight> indeed strange
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#1123 [05:20] <Erik> I'll try to reboot the computer I guess
#1124 [05:21] <Erik> brb
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#1126 [05:24] <creeeper> Hi...
#1127 [05:26] <creeeper> I can't get my minecraft to work it freezes up the loading screen when I try to play ot.
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#1129 [05:27] <Erik> Nothing really changed
#1130 [05:28] <Erik> :O
#1131 [05:29] <Erik> greyvulpine, you there?
#1132 [05:33] <Erik> Hey!? Anybody here...?
#1133 [05:35] <Erik> Hello?
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#1135 [05:39] <peru> Erik, if you still have this in dxdiag "The system is using the generic video driver. Please install video driver provided by the hardware manufacturer." then work on that first
#1136 [05:39] <Erik> I did install the driver like 4 times
#1137 [05:39] <Erik> Nothing has really changed :I
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#1139 [05:41] <peru> first, uninstall current driver so that system windows detects your video card as unknown device. Only then install from link http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_xp-32.aspx
#1140 [05:41] <lern> Excuse me
#1141 [05:42] <lern> Does anyone with actual computing knowledge/experience with how minecraft actualy works
#1142 [05:42] <lern> as in
#1143 [05:42] <lern> a programmer or some kind of tech savvy dude
#1144 [05:42] <lern> have any idea
#1145 [05:42] <lern> How I fix the memory problem.
#1146 [05:43] <lern> . . .
#1147 [05:43] <lern> anyone even here? D;
#1148 [05:44] <peru> can you give error text?
#1149 [05:44] <lern> It's... not that.
#1150 [05:44] <Erik> I did just as you said
#1151 [05:44] <Erik> and I installed the driver for the 5th time
#1152 [05:44] <lern> You know how ever since 1.6, people occasionaly get the 'Saving chunks...' and then it crashes, blaming the lack of memory?
#1153 [05:45] <lern> Well
#1154 [05:45] <Erik> Nothing changed
#1155 [05:45] <peru> Erik, you might want to reboot your pc
#1156 [05:45] <lern> Back in 1.6 it became less common with every update.
#1157 [05:45] <Erik> Alright
#1158 [05:45] <Erik> I'll do that
#1159 [05:45] <lern> And by 1.7 it became an occasional error rather than a reoccouring one.
#1160 [05:46] <lern> But then since 1.8 pre-release, all the way til now with 1.9, it's become more common than ever.
#1161 [05:46] <peru> sorry lern im newbie here
#1162 [05:46] <jayden_d8> hello?
#1163 [05:46] <lern> I see.
#1164 [05:46] <lern> The problem is I'm NOT a newbie here and I still have no idea how to fix it.
#1165 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> lern - Got a 64 bit OS?
#1166 [05:48] <lern> Aye.
#1167 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Got 64 bit java installed?
#1168 [05:48] <lern> I believe I do.
#1169 [05:48] <lern> I reinstalled java several times since 1.6, I'm p.sure i've got 64.
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#1171 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Many people have solved this issue by installing only 64 bit java, so that more memory can be addressed by java/minecraft
#1172 [05:48] <lern> I reinstalled AGAIN back when 1.8 was released, but maybe I keep doing 32.
#1173 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> The default installation with a 32bit browser, result in a 32 bit java installed
#1174 [05:49] <Viking667> 'llo all. Any recommendations or brickbats about mcschematics.com?
#1175 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> You may need to recheck it
#1176 [05:49] <lern> Mozilla is...?
#1177 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Generally 32 bit
#1178 [05:49] <lern> Well, java.com verified my version to be the correct one. >>
#1179 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> lern - I'd start with uninstalling all java from your system, and installing only 64 bit java from http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1180 [05:50] <lern> Oh.
#1181 [05:50] <lern> Uninstalling too?
#1182 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> lern - If you're tech savvy enough, you can reinstall 32 bit java, and have minecraft use 64 bit java
#1183 [05:50] <lern> Well that'll be a bitch but okay.
#1184 [05:50] <Calinou> <lern> But then since 1.8 pre-release, all the way til now with 1.9, it's become more common than ever.
#1185 [05:50] <Calinou> there is a memory leak, probably
#1186 [05:50] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1186 [05:50] <Calinou> I sometimes get out of ram, I never got out of ram before
#1187 [05:50] <Calinou> "16% of 1536MB used" right now
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#1189 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> I've had good luck with having people install only 64 bit java for their system
#1190 [05:51] <Viking667> I found that 1.9 made me lag more... wasn't sure whether it was just my machine or not.
#1191 [05:51] <lern> So wait
#1192 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 is a prerelease, it's bound to be buggy
#1193 [05:51] <lern> If I want 64 bit java only
#1194 [05:51] <Viking667> ... and I use fairly standard -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M ...
#1195 [05:51] <lern> Then shouldn't I get 64 bit mozilla?
#1196 [05:51] <Calinou> lag != low fps, first
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#1198 [05:51] <Calinou> my FPS are stable in 1.8 compared to 1.9pre
#1199 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> lern - Installation of java isn't tied to your browser's bit version
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#1202 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> If you want to have java running on your 32 bit browser, yes, you do need 32 bit java installed
#1203 [05:52] <lern> Exactly
#1204 [05:52] <Erik> Nothing changed
#1205 [05:52] <lern> So why would I uninstall a 32-bit java I have
#1206 [05:52] <lern> if I want it running on mozilla too
#1207 [05:52] <lern> <even though I'm p.sure i have 64 bit>
#1208 [05:52] <Viking667> hm. Dilemma.
#1209 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Because java will default to a 32 bit java, when you run minecraft
#1210 [05:53] <lern> okay, so how do I default it to the 64-bit?
#1211 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> If you don't explicitly tell java to use 64 bit java, it'll use 32 bit, and give you memory problems with minecraft
#1212 [05:53] <BitFaze> except if you tell java64 to execyte the minecraft.exe or .jar
#1213 [05:53] <Erik> sigh
#1214 [05:53] <lern> so basically
#1215 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> lern - How tech-savvy are you?
#1216 [05:53] <lern> Well
#1217 [05:53] <Viking667> you'd specifically have to wire it up that way though... i.e. java64.exe
#1218 [05:53] <lern> To be fair
#1219 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to use batch files?
#1220 [05:53] <lern> oh
#1221 [05:53] <lern> Yes.
#1222 [05:53] <lern> I've made one.
#1223 [05:53] <Viking667> You've made one. hm.
#1224 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Then download the minecraft.jar from the website, point the explicit path to 64 bit java to the minecraft.jar
#1225 [05:54] <Calinou> got out of RAM right now.
#1226 [05:54] <lern> Okay.
#1227 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> So in your batch file, you'll have something like:
#1228 [05:54] <Calinou> was at 25% of used RAM. then I opened inventory and got out of ram
#1229 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> "c:\program files\java\jre6\bin\java.exe -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft.jar"
#1230 [05:54] <BitFaze> I remember seeing a topic on minecraftform about how to design your .cmd or .bat file, when trying to launch in x64 mode
#1231 [05:54] <lern> Yep
#1232 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Or something to that effect
#1233 [05:55] <lern> That's what I got
#1234 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's program files, and not program files (x86)
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#1236 [05:55] <lern> ...
#1237 [05:55] <lern> oh.
#1238 [05:55] <lern> that might be it :V
#1239 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> The latter is 32 bit java
#1240 [05:55] <lern> But wait.
#1241 [05:56] <lern> Originally I set it up as that, and [L] told me to do it with the 986x)
#1242 [05:56] <lern> (86x)*
#1243 [05:56] <lern> ...But okay, I'm willing to try whichever works.
#1244 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Well, this way is correct
#1245 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> If you have 64 bit java installed, that is the way to launch minecraft using 64 bit java
#1246 [05:56] <lern> My batch file begs to differ.
#1247 [05:56] <lern> It cannot find path.
#1248 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Then check your program files folder, see if you have java there. If not, 64 bit java is not installed
#1249 [05:57] <BitFaze> have you guys tried running Minecraft with Java v7 instead of v6u27?
#1250 [05:57] <Viking667> GreyVulpine: hang on... that commandline you used is supposed to be -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.Launcher (or something like it), isn't it?
#1251 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I left that out, couldn't remember offhand
#1252 [05:57] <lern> java's installed in my x86.
#1253 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> then you only have 32 bit java installed on your system
#1254 [05:58] <Viking667> yeah, here we are... -cp .... net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1255 [05:58] <lern> Hmmm.
#1256 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Download and install the 64 bit version of java from http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1257 [05:58] <lern> Yeah yeah
#1258 [05:58] <BitFaze> the file I guess you're looking for is jre-6u27-windows-x64.exe
#1259 [05:58] <lern> Okay.
#1260 [05:58] <lern> Yes
#1261 [05:58] <lern> I've done it.
#1262 [05:58] <lern> Strange. I've reinstalled it so many times
#1263 [05:59] <lern> you'd think I'd get the 64bit for a change,
#1264 [05:59] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#1264 [05:59] <lern> Okay. It's working, the batch files set to 64-bit.
#1265 [05:59] <Viking667> lern: when you get 64-bit java down and installed, remember this commandline: wherever-the-java-now-lives -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1266 [05:59] <lern> Let's see if it works now!
#1267 [06:00] <lern> Viking, I've got my batch file ready, it's okay :P
#1268 [06:00] * Viking667 grins. I've had to code one of those puppies as a drag-drop target. Wasn't easy.
#1268 [06:01] <Viking667> I did manage to get a .bat file to accept an argument on the commandline, or to accept something dragged onto its icon from within Explorer.
#1269 [06:01] <Viking667> The tricky problem was getting it to realise where it actually lives. Once I got that issue sorted, it was a simple process of changing to that directory as the very first thing it did. From there, everything worked properly.
#1270 [06:02] <lern> Well I think it works.
#1271 [06:02] <lern> WAIT. THIS IS THE CREATIVE THEME SONG. SINCE WHEN DOES IT PLAY ON SURVIVAL :V
#1272 [06:03] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1272 [06:03] <Viking667> You're probably confused
#1273 [06:03] <Viking667> I don't know of a "creative theme song"
#1274 [06:03] <lern> Well
#1275 [06:03] <lern> It's what I call the song that used to play on creative.
#1276 [06:03] <lern> Or have I just never heard it in survival?
#1277 [06:03] <Viking667> *blink* *blink*
#1278 [06:04] <Viking667> There's no google hits for that phrase
#1279 [06:04] <Viking667> and only about 577,000 hits for pages with the words in.
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#1281 [06:06] <Kaphox> Hello
#1282 [06:07] <lern> huh. a blue sheep.
#1283 [06:07] <lern> that's... rare.
#1284 [06:07] <Viking667> ttbomk, most of the themes seem to get played some time during a long game..
#1285 [06:07] <Viking667> .... wot???
#1286 [06:07] <Viking667> screenie or we don't believe you
#1287 [06:07] <lern> oh
#1288 [06:07] <lern> it was a zombie
#1289 [06:07] <lern> :>
#1290 [06:07] <Viking667> wow. pre-dyed wool. That'd be a laugh.
#1291 [06:08] <lern> its blue pants looked like sheep legs!
#1292 [06:08] <Viking667> meh. You're blind.
#1293 [06:08] <lern> And its torso/head were covered by a tree.
#1294 [06:08] <Viking667> sigh.
#1295 [06:08] <lern> Also
#1296 [06:08] <lern> There ARE pink sheep
#1297 [06:08] <lern> and some other colors
#1298 [06:08] <lern> brown, pink...
#1299 [06:08] <Viking667> screenie or we don't believe you
#1300 [06:08] <lern> i think green and red
#1301 [06:08] <lern> uh
#1302 [06:08] <lern> brown and pink are well known sheep colors
#1303 [06:08] <lern> go check the wikia
#1304 [06:08] <Viking667> Brown, yes. Grey, black, light grey, yes. Never seen pink.
#1305 [06:08] <BitFaze> please stop using <enter> as a punctuation
#1306 [06:09] <Kaphox> Once I log onto MInecraft, it says 'Fatal Error Occured (2): The working directory could not be created: D:\users\####\AppData\roaming\.minecraft'! can someone plz help?
#1307 [06:09] <Viking667> lern: have you noticed that lots of my sentences are complete? Most of them don't run on for multiple lines?
#1308 [06:10] <Viking667> Kaphox: is it on a fat32 filesystem?
#1309 [06:10] <Kaphox> What?
#1310 [06:10] <peru> Kaphox my gues is you dont have permissions for that directory OR drive C is full
#1311 [06:10] <Kaphox> DO u mean the OS
#1312 [06:10] <Kaphox> No
#1313 [06:10] <Viking667> Kaphox: is D: a FAT32 drive?
#1314 [06:10] <Kaphox> Uhhh
#1315 [06:11] <Kaphox> Wait a minite
#1316 [06:11] <BitFaze> there could also be an issue with file security rights. But I doubt it inside his own user-folder
#1317 [06:11] <lern> Viking, pink is rare, but does exist.
#1318 [06:11] <Viking667> It's D: - anything could happen.
#1319 [06:12] <Viking667> lern: yes, so i see. 0.16% of the time.
#1320 [06:12] <Kaphox> Puru - No
#1321 [06:12] <peru> never seen pink
#1322 [06:12] * Viking667 loves having two computers driving three screens...
#1322 [06:12] <Viking667> I've never seen pink, but it apparaently can happen.
#1323 [06:12] <Kaphox> Peru, ours is an NTFS
#1324 [06:12] <Viking667> gah. can't spell propulry toringht
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#1326 [06:13] <Kaphox> Peru, i'll PM you
#1327 [06:13] <Viking667> So. Nobody has anything to say either way about mcschematics.com?
#1328 [06:15] <BitFaze> I require some assistance with javac. Yesterday I asked for a patch to downgrade a minecraft_server.jar (v1.8.1) to a v1.7.3. I was suggested by Boreeas the following: "Download the java compiler, add it to your PATH, get bukkit 1060, pull out the net.minecraft.server package, put it in a seperate folde, co to cmd, cd to the dir of the package, [...]
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#1330 [06:15] <BitFaze> [...]then type "javac net". But I have trouble already at the "pull out the net.minecraft.server package" part
#1331 [06:15] <mariana> help
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#1333 [06:16] <BitFaze> I'm guessing I have to use the JDK to extract a part of the bukkit jar, but I'm not sure what to use
#1334 [06:16] <lern> SNAP, new swamps are awesome
#1335 [06:16] <Viking667> BitFaze: I can't help with that one either, I'm sorry to say.
#1336 [06:17] <Viking667> lern: I'm not that impressed with the swamps.
#1337 [06:17] <Viking667> I've seen them from above, they're ... not swampy enough.
#1338 [06:18] <BitFaze> they are getting better in 1.9.x
#1339 [06:18] <BitFaze> changed water-tint
#1340 [06:19] <BitFaze> I tried extracting the net/minecraft/server with 7-zip, but "javac net" only gives me an error. I'll try again in a moment so I can tell which error
#1341 [06:20] <lern> uh
#1342 [06:20] <BitFaze> "error: Class names, 'net', are only accepted if annotation processing is explicitly requested"
#1343 [06:20] <lern> what are the odds of finding a sub-terranean dungeon with the chest outside of it?
#1344 [06:20] <lern> Mob spawner
#1345 [06:20] <lern> Not dungeon
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#1347 [06:21] <lern> and the mob spawner is covered in sand.
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#1349 [06:22] <Kaphox> Sorry, i crashed
#1350 [06:22] <BitFaze> that usually means the engine create a dungeon with spawner too close the the surface. So when you came near, the sand fell down
#1351 [06:22] <Kaphox> Hi?
#1352 [06:22] <Kaphox> I crashed!
#1353 [06:23] <BitFaze> hi
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#1356 [06:24] <HunterEris> Hello?
#1357 [06:26] <lern> >lava in forest
#1358 [06:26] <lern> lol
#1359 [06:26] <lern> or woods. Whichever had more trees and was darker.
#1360 [06:28] <peru> who can explain to Kaphox how to create .minecraft directory? all he can do is create .minecraft shortcut XD
#1361 [06:30] <Kaphox> Hey
#1362 [06:30] <Kaphox> I've ben at this for a while
#1363 [06:30] <Kaphox> YOUR THE PROBLEM
#1364 [06:30] <Kaphox> NOT EXPLAINING IT CLEARLY ENOUGH
#1365 [06:30] <Kaphox> YOU SEE
#1366 [06:30] <peru> turn off caps
#1367 [06:30] <BitFaze> oh the drama >_>
#1368 [06:31] <Kaphox> fuck off
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#1377 [07:01] <the3rdmillenia> i cannot play minecraft, it will let me connect then it will disconnect me and show a white screen. i have updated all of my drivers. what shall i do?
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#1379 [07:03] <dF> hello
#1380 [07:04] <dF> I bet a lot of ppl are asking this, but how to fix Java errors that causes me to crash from the server please?
#1381 [07:04] <dF> talking bout this shizzle :"minecraft java.net.socketexception: connection reset"
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#1384 [07:08] <mortisha> hi
#1385 [07:08] <mortisha> i need help with minecraft
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#1389 [07:27] <BabyCreep> Guys, do you offer support for Minecraft Classic also?
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#1392 [07:30] <spleenhen> hey guys does anyone have any solutions for "can't connect to minecraft.net?". I haven't been able to connect since it downloaded 1.8
#1393 [07:30] <guest-35282-30799> hello?
#1394 [07:32] <Teknik> I have an issue with my server. I run the default server client (Downloaded off minecraft.net) and I run it and set up the properties file properly and everything. And I can connect to my server fine but none of my friends can (they ahve all bought it just like me) They tried the same method as me and none of us could connect to eachothers servers
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#1398 [07:42] <Thrae> spleenhen: Download the latest launcher from www.minecraft.net -- the old launcher can't connect anymore due to lack of encryption.
#1399 [07:42] <JesseCM> downloaded minecraft for my mac i need help it wont work anybody out their
#1400 [07:43] <JesseCM> it says it cant connect to minecraft.net
#1401 [07:44] <Thrae> JesseCM: Does the in-browser version work?
#1402 [07:45] <spleenhen> I've tried downloading the latest launcher, the one on the frontpage right? There's no difference
#1403 [07:45] <spleenhen> The online version works fine
#1404 [07:45] <Thrae> Hmmmmm
#1405 [07:46] <Thrae> spleenhen: What's your current date & time, and does your Windows username have a ! in it?
#1406 [07:46] <JesseCM> no it says java is unavailable
#1407 [07:46] <spleenhen> date and time are right, and no ! in my username
#1408 [07:47] <spleenhen> the news feed doesnt show up either
#1409 [07:47] <Thrae> JesseCM: Hmm, using Lion?
#1410 [07:47] <JesseCM> no safari
#1411 [07:48] <Thrae> Lion is a version of OS X (10.7 and higher)
#1412 [07:48] <Hisui> anybody around who runs Minecraft on Linux?
#1413 [07:48] <JesseCM> not sure on that then unsure how to check that
#1414 [07:49] <Hisui> CPU usage goes all the way up and the system comes to a screeching laggy halt when I open the world selection menu in Minecraft on Ubuntu
#1415 [07:49] <Hisui> unless I load the world really quick
#1416 [07:50] <Hisui> and when I do, the game's choppy ingame and pretty much kills the system when I try to alt-tab away from it
#1417 [07:50] <Hisui> @_@
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#1419 [07:50] <Hisui> what could it be
#1420 [07:50] <Thrae> Hisui: Sounds like a corrupt world -- try moving all saved worlds to a different directory for backup, then make a new world (or two) and see if the problem goes away
#1421 [07:50] <Vivek> can i get help with a render distance problem?
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#1423 [07:51] <Hisui> Hmm, thanks, I'll try that when I reboot into the OS
#1424 [07:51] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and tell me if it says Java is OK, if so, what version and what OS X version.
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#1428 [07:52] <Vivek> morrolan :D
#1429 [07:52] <JesseCM> no says java is unavailable
#1430 [07:52] <Morrolan> o/
#1431 [07:52] <Vivek> do you know how to solve render distance related problems?
#1432 [07:53] <Vivek> you remember me right? :P
#1433 [07:54] <Thrae> JesseCM: Sounds like you don't have Java installed. Go to https://www.apple.com/support/mobileme/en/os_version.html and follow its instructions to get your OS X version so I can direct you to where to get Java.
#1434 [07:54] <Morrolan> render distance related? As in crashing when set to far etc?
#1435 [07:55] <Morrolan> Updating video drivers & OpenGL might be worth a shot, apart from this, not too sure.
#1436 [07:55] <Morrolan> Also, sorry, but nope, not too sure who you are. ;)
#1437 [07:55] <JesseCM> Mac OS X 10.5.8
#1438 [07:56] <Thrae> Vivek: Are you on Windows? You should be using a batch file to run Minecraft and give it more memory.
#1439 [07:56] <Vivek> i had the ati error message thing
#1440 [07:56] <Thrae> (If you want super-far render distance)
#1441 [07:56] <Vivek> yeah im on windows
#1442 [07:56] <Vivek> i cant go past short without it crashing
#1443 [07:56] <Thrae> ATI Error Message Thing? The ACCESS_VIOLATION_EXCEPTION?
#1444 [07:57] <Hisui> I increased the heapsize via MCPatcher and run the game with the java 2048m shortcut, yet minecraft still seems to crash all the time on Far :Q
#1445 [07:57] <Hisui> without even exceeding 1024
#1446 [07:57] <Hisui> mb
#1447 [07:57] <Vivek> no i had some problem before where my pc had ati drivers, morrolan was trying to help
#1448 [07:57] <Vivek> i have intel hd graphics and 4gb ram
#1449 [07:57] <Hisui> Not a big problem since Normal is fine too, but meh
#1450 [07:57] <Vivek> i would like normal at leas
#1451 [07:57] <Vivek> t
#1452 [07:58] <Morrolan> Hmm, that was quite some time ago though, Vivek, right?
#1453 [07:58] <Thrae> Hisui: Are you using 64-bit Linux? And why do you need to use MCPatcher? 64-bit Java shouldn't need that.
#1454 [07:58] <Vivek> yeah in june i think
#1455 [07:58] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#1456 [07:58] <Hisui> Oh, that's on my Windows install
#1457 [07:58] <Hisui> I don't even to play the game long enough on Linux to experience memory problems
#1458 [07:58] <Thrae> Your Windows installation is 32-bit?
#1459 [07:58] <Morrolan> Vivek: Well, like Thrae said, you could try to launch it with a .bat file to give Minecraft more memory to start with. http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1460 [07:59] <Hisui> My Windows is 64-bit, but I installed 32-bit java so that Steam could properly link Minecraft, create the overlay etc.
#1461 [07:59] <Morrolan> In the command on that pastebin, replace '256' with, for example, '2048'
#1462 [07:59] <Vivek> so yeah when i put the render to normal it crashes. win 7 64bit. my friends can run with the same graphics and get far, and even get far on a netbook :|
#1463 [07:59] <Morrolan> Oh, you do have 64 bit Java installed I guess?
#1464 [07:59] * Thrae gives out a special bat for 64-bit Java
#1464 [07:59] <Hisui> so I guess the problem will go away again if I install 64-bit
#1465 [08:00] <Vivek> i think ive got 64 bit java and 32 bit
#1466 [08:00] <Thrae> Hisui: Hmmm I think the overlay works with 64-bit games
#1467 [08:00] <JesseCM> Thrae Mac OS X 10.5.8
#1468 [08:00] <Hisui> Well, the thing is that it won't show you as "in-game"
#1469 [08:00] <Hisui> It will for a split second, but then you'll just be Online again
#1470 [08:00] <Vivek> also, my pc box says with 2gb ram it has about 400 shared to graphics, and with 4gb it goes to 768mb to graphics
#1471 [08:00] <Hisui> Theres some other fixes I've tried like making a batch file to open Minecraft and turning that into an .exe to run in Steam, but thats really hacky
#1472 [08:01] <Thrae> Vivek: That's part of TAG, it's a Windows thing. How much is your total RAM right now?
#1473 [08:01] <Vivek> could it be that it hasnt increased to 768 when i added some extra ram?
#1474 [08:01] <Vivek> i have 4 gb at the moment
#1475 [08:01] <Vivek> i3 380m
#1476 [08:01] <Thrae> Hisui: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat <-- try calling 64-bit java directly and everything else as launch options
#1477 [08:01] <Thrae> Vivek: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat
#1478 [08:02] <Thrae> Vivek: Place that in the same directory as Minecraft.exe and it'll launch 64-bit Java with 1GB of memory, up to 2GB.
#1479 [08:02] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK one sec
#1480 [08:04] <Thrae> JesseCM: First check for available Software Updates. Then grab this -- https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13295/apple-java-for-mac-os-x-10.5
#1481 [08:06] <Vivek> will more ram mean more render distance?
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#1484 [08:07] <CosmicVoyager> Why does 1.9 work with Mac OS X Leopard but 1.8 does not? Is he working on fixing bug in 1.8 or what?
#1485 [08:07] <zipporaffy> Hi
#1486 [08:08] <zipporaffy> anyone can help me?
#1487 [08:08] <Hisui> Cheers Thrae, I approve of your helping everybody :3
#1488 [08:08] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: 1.8 is using a new version of OpenGL which is not supported in OSX 10.5.8. That dependency is fixed in 1.9
#1489 [08:08] <Morrolan> zipporaffy: Just ask your question, and you'll see whether someone can help you.
#1490 [08:08] <JesseCM> Okay said software update was okay so i clicked on link and installed it, should all be okay now
#1491 [08:10] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan Yes, I am asking why he doesnt fix it in 1.8 before going to 1.9? Mods have been updated to work with 1.8 but not 1.9. Because he didn't fix it in 1.8, you still can;t play with mods. He should fix the bugs in 1.8 first.
#1492 [08:11] <Morrolan> Because 1.9 will be released in a few days anyway I guess.
#1493 [08:11] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: There is a mod which fixes that somewhere, you could check it out if you can't wait.
#1494 [08:11] <zipporaffy> ok thanks, i've a problem from 2 days. when i try to connect to minecraft.net from the game, it says that i'm not premium user. why? before it was orkin pretty well....
#1495 [08:11] <Morrolan> And did you buy the game, zipporaffy?
#1496 [08:12] <CosmicVoyager> But when 1.9 is released, mods wont be upp to date like they are for 1.8.
#1497 [08:12] <JesseCM> okay let me get in, started but when it tried to open a world all i get is a black screen and then nothing
#1498 [08:12] <Morrolan> Also, does it just show that message on the top left corner, or does it show it when trying to log in, zipporaffy?
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#1500 [08:12] <Byaka> hey
#1501 [08:12] <Byaka> I cant buy the game
#1502 [08:13] <Vivek> thanks for the help too guys ^_^ but one last question, does minecraft use raw ram or graphics ram more?
#1503 [08:13] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: And? As long as there's no official way of modding the game you can't expect him to take care of modders too much. ;)
#1504 [08:14] <Morrolan> Vivek: Well, both. RAM for block data, entities and stuff, graphic memory for the rendering related stuff.
#1505 [08:14] <zipporaffy> yes, in fact it worked perfectly from when i buyed it (1 month ago)
#1506 [08:14] <Morrolan> Byaka: And why can't you buy it?
#1507 [08:14] <Morrolan> zipporaffy: What is your MInecraft username?
#1508 [08:14] <CosmicVoyager> The point is he should add more stuff until the bugs that exist are fixed.
#1509 [08:14] <zipporaffy> zipporaffy :)
#1510 [08:14] <zipporaffy> i've buyed 3 gift code
#1511 [08:14] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: You may think what you want, it won't change anything, none here is related to Mojang in any way. ;)
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#1513 [08:15] <Morrolan> I mean I agree with you, but there's no use in discussing this here.
#1514 [08:15] <zipporaffy> and also another is not working
#1515 [08:15] <Morrolan> !paid zipporaffy
#1516 [08:15] <Morrolan> zipporaffy: Did you activate that gitfcode?
#1517 [08:15] <Vivek> so increasing how much ram it uses would increase my render?
#1518 [08:15] <zipporaffy> yes
#1519 [08:15] <Hisui> !paid sana
#1520 [08:15] <Vivek> !paid Z0gen
#1521 [08:15] <Morrolan> Vivek: It might allow you to use a higher render distance without crashing.
#1522 [08:16] <Vivek> yay thanks :)
#1523 [08:16] <Vivek> and if not, can i come back here?
#1524 [08:17] <JesseCM> When I try to open a world on minecraft I just get a Black Screen i am on a MAC
#1525 [08:17] <Morrolan> zipporaffy: Hmm, that's rather strange then. I suggest you use www.minecraft.net/support ->�Account -> Premium -> "I bought a premium account but [...]", fill out the form there, explain your situation and submit it.
#1526 [08:17] <Morrolan> Vivek: Yes.
#1527 [08:17] <Vivek> ok thank you very much :3
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#1529 [08:17] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Does it happen with any world, or with a specific one only?
#1530 [08:18] <zipporaffy> it may depends from the fact that I bought from a seller on ebay?
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#1532 [08:19] <JesseCM> when i try to open any world
#1533 [08:19] <Thrae> JesseCM: OS X 10.5.8 has a bug with the cheaper Macs that prevent Minecraft 1.8 from working. You can either try the 1.9 Pre-release, or mod a fix in.
#1534 [08:19] <Morrolan> zipporaffy: In this case, don't bother contacting support, Mojang does not provide support from buying it from any location other than www.minecraft.net
#1535 [08:19] <JesseCM> how do i go about that
#1536 [08:19] <Thrae> Vivek: System RAM by far
#1537 [08:19] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Did it ever work before?
#1538 [08:20] <JesseCM> yeah when i tried the free beta it did
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#1540 [08:21] <CosmicVoyager> Thrae AHHH! I am using 1.9, but 1.9 doesnt work with bukkit! 1.8 does. Bugs in a version need to be fixed before going to a new version!
#1541 [08:21] <Thrae> CosmicVoyager: It's not a bug with 1.8 specifically, it's a bug with Macs (mostly 10.5.8). For some reason (laziness) Intel didn't give a graphics driver compatible with OpenGL 1.2, despite most graphics chipsets supporting that by ~2000
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#1543 [08:21] <lolmanzee1> hello
#1544 [08:22] <CosmicVoyager> RIght when everything is updated to work, he changes it to 1.9 and doesnt fix the bug in 1.8!
#1545 [08:22] <lolmanzee1> hello
#1546 [08:22] <Thrae> CosmicVoyager: OpenGL is the main 3D graphics library for Macs and the second of the big two for Windows, so you can't fault Notch for using a standard set about in the 20th century
#1547 [08:23] <lolmanzee1> i cant conett to 1.8.1 servers its odd
#1548 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> lolmanzee1 - What happens when you try to connect to s.nerd.nu?
#1549 [08:23] <Thrae> lolmanzee1: Try this one -- mc.matts-hosting.com:25566
#1550 [08:23] <lolmanzee1> it just says conneting to server for like over 5mis
#1551 [08:24] <lolmanzee1> its being dogey
#1552 [08:24] <CosmicVoyager> Thrae omg. im not. im faulting him for adding a bunch of stuff in 1.9 that require mods like bukkit to update before fixing bugs in the version that everuthing has bee updated to work with
#1553 [08:24] <lolmanzee1> nope
#1554 [08:24] <lolmanzee1> no connteion
#1555 [08:24] <Thrae> lolmanzee1: To s.nerd.nu or mc.matts-hosting.com:25566 ?
#1556 [08:24] <lolmanzee1> 1.8 works
#1557 [08:25] <lolmanzee1> but i cant seem to conet to my own server either
#1558 [08:25] <Thrae> I don't even see a connection attempt
#1559 [08:25] <JesseCM> so am i crap out of luck or do i need to download something else to fix it
#1560 [08:25] <lolmanzee1> i think im laging
#1561 [08:25] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: Look, I already told you, there's no use pointing at people with your finger here, that won't change anything.
#1562 [08:26] <lolmanzee1> other servers are out
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#1564 [08:26] <lolmanzee1> like they are off line
#1565 [08:26] <Morrolan> You'll have to accept that you'll have to wait for 1.9 for playing it with mods / multiplayer. ;)
#1566 [08:26] <lolmanzee1> yep i will
#1567 [08:26] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan i wasnt responing to you. i was responding to Thrae.
#1568 [08:27] <lolmanzee1> rofl
#1569 [08:27] <Hisui> It's still a useless response that has nothing to do in a help channel
#1570 [08:27] <Thrae> CosmicVoyager: It's not exactly a solid fix though -- Notch has to include a workaround special for certain computers which may have detrimental effects on other systems. That's why he didn't just push it out for 1.8.2 or whatever. It's a pain that Bukkit isn't updated for 1.9-pre yet, but it's not even finished being updated for 1.8.x yet.
#1571 [08:27] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan he said somethingnew after you said that which required corection
#1572 [08:27] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: But still, you think that he should fix this incompability before releasing 1.9. I agree. And yet it won't help anything at all if we talk about this. ;)
#1573 [08:28] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Do you know how to use terminal?
#1574 [08:28] <CosmicVoyager> morrolan for goodness sake..Thae said "so you can't fault Notch for using a standard set about in the 20th century" i responded to that. go back and read
#1575 [08:28] <JesseCM> no i do not
#1576 [08:28] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: I read it.
#1577 [08:29] <Thrae> Yeah; I'll stop too ;)
#1578 [08:29] <Morrolan> CosmicVoyager: Now go back and read what you wrote _after_ this quoted sentence. ;)
#1579 [08:29] <Thrae> lolmanzee1: I think your Minecraft files are corrupt. Using Windows?
#1580 [08:29] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan i wasnt saying wht you just said i was saying. i was correctng that staement
#1581 [08:29] <Morrolan> "im faulting him for adding a bunch of stuff in 1.9 that require mods like bukkit to update before fixing bugs in the version that everuthing has bee updated to work with" <- This I was responding to.
#1582 [08:30] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan yes i know. becaise i was correcting what he said i was saying
#1583 [08:30] <Morrolan> And there goes my answer: "Pointing at people with your fingers does not help anything"
#1584 [08:30] <JesseCM> i am sorry if i am being a pain
#1585 [08:30] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Nah, no worries. :/
#1586 [08:30] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan yes. i was correcting what he said i was saying. i wouldnt have saif that if hehadnt saif i was saying something i was not
#1587 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> CosmicVoyager - You'll never be rid of all the bugs in a release. Ever try programming?
#1588 [08:31] <CosmicVoyager> Morrolan it was necassiry to repeat that to correct what he said i was doing
#1589 [08:31] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Problem is that I'm not familiar with Macs at all. I think there should be an application called "terminal" in either the program folder, or in programs -> tools or so.
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#1591 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> There is a program called 'terminal', type it in the finder in the upper right corner
#1592 [08:31] <lolmanzee1> back
#1593 [08:32] <Morrolan> Ah, right, the allmighty search function. :D
#1594 [08:32] <Thrae> ??< mac/permissions
#1595 [08:32] <CosmicVoyager> GreyVulpine "You'll never be rid of all the bugs in a release." non sequitor. "Ever try programming?" yes
#1596 [08:32] <Thrae> Applications, Utilities, Terminal
#1597 [08:32] <JesseCM> I found it
#1598 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll know how hard it is to actually program for all the possible different platforms a program is available to run on.
#1599 [08:33] <Morrolan> JesseCM: Ok, open it.
#1600 [08:33] <CosmicVoyager> GreyVulpine yep and nothing to do with what ive been talkin about
#1601 [08:33] <Thrae> lolmanzee1: I think your Minecraft files are corrupt. Using Windows?
#1602 [08:33] <JesseCM> done
#1603 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry that modders have a tough time, having to recompile their code against a constantly changing obsfucated source code, but that's the life they get to live, until a proper Modding API is released
#1604 [08:33] <Morrolan> Thrae: Feel like walking JesseCM through launching Minecraft in the terminal? This way we'd get an error for when it's crashing while loading a world.
#1605 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> That's also the choice that people that use mods, have to contend with, each time they want to use a mod for minecraft
#1606 [08:34] <lolmanzee1> yes windows
#1607 [08:34] <Thrae> Morrolan: Sure....I'd like to double-check permissions first, though
#1608 [08:34] <lolmanzee1> it works
#1609 [08:34] <lolmanzee1> but i think we are laged out
#1610 [08:34] <Morrolan> Thrae: You can, I doubt that it's that issue though, wouldn't make sense at all.
#1611 [08:34] <Morrolan> Either way, gotta do some work, so afk-ish for a few hours.
#1612 [08:35] <Thrae> Morrolan: Well if it's not permissions, since he's on 10.5.8, it's *probably* that
#1613 [08:36] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, type in "java -version". Does Java spit out some info?
#1614 [08:38] <JesseCM> yeah 2 runtime enviroment, standard edition (build 1.5.0_30-b03-389-9M3425
#1615 [08:39] <Thrae> Blargh that should be Java 6 methinks, but anyway
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#1617 [08:39] <Tedixz> Hey, can someone help me with my Minecraft Client?
#1618 [08:39] <Tedixz> It seems I'm unable to open it :l
#1619 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#1620 [08:40] <Tedixz> Mac OS X.
#1621 [08:40] <lolmanzee1> hello
#1622 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> Tedixz mac/permissions
#1623 [08:40] <VoxelHead> Tedixz: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1624 [08:40] <VoxelHead> Tedixz: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1625 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> place the minecraft.app into your applications folder, and run that in the terminal
#1626 [08:40] <Tedixz> Second. Thanks for the support. About to do that.
#1627 [08:40] <Thrae> ??< client
#1628 [08:41] <lolmanzee1> hey my clint works its just the miltiplayer that i cant connet to
#1629 [08:41] <lolmanzee1> its funny
#1630 [08:41] <Thrae> JesseCM: What directory does Terminal start off in? I can't remember
#1631 [08:41] <Tedixz> Hm, no luck.
#1632 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Tedixz - Did the terminal return anything?
#1633 [08:41] <Tedixz> I've entered "chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub" in my Terminal, and it seems to pop out and disappear
#1634 [08:42] <Tedixz> No, it didn't.
#1635 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you just click and drag the Minecraft.app file into the terminal, and press enter?
#1636 [08:42] <JesseCM> i just went through the finder
#1637 [08:42] <Tedixz> The Minecraft icon pops up on my Navigation Bar for about 0.5 seconds before disappearing.
#1638 [08:42] <Tedixz> Let's see.
#1639 [08:42] <Thrae> JesseCM: Go ahead and drag the Minecraft.app shortcut into Terminal and press Enter
#1640 [08:42] <Tedixz> "-bash: /Applications/Minecraft.app: is a directory"
#1641 [08:43] <Thrae> Yeah, it's a directory
#1642 [08:43] <Tedixz> That's all it returns when I press enter. Strange.
#1643 [08:43] <JesseCM> mine too
#1644 [08:43] <Tedixz> However, I can perfectly run the game if I type "java -jar minecraft.jar" in my Terminal.
#1645 [08:44] <Thrae> I think I might have to use the Linux/"Other" launcher
#1646 [08:44] <Tedixz> Yet the .app isn't working correctly
#1647 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, don't know then..
#1648 [08:44] <Tedixz> The Linux/Other .jar version works fine, just weird that this would happen ever since 1.8 .. my other Mac runs Minecraft.app fine too
#1649 [08:45] <Tedixz> Oh well, i'll just stick to the .jar and hope Notch somehow fixes it in his next update or something.
#1650 [08:45] <Thrae> Tedixz: Did you try deleting it and re-downloading from the website, then re-extracting?
#1651 [08:45] <Tedixz> Yes ^
#1652 [08:45] <Tedixz> The problem persists.
#1653 [08:45] <Thrae> I haven't heard of this problem before with Macs
#1654 [08:45] <Tedixz> Me neither, especially considering it runs fine with my other Mac.
#1655 [08:45] <Thrae> Tedixz: Did you delete all the locally installed files? The Linux/"other" version puts it somewhere else.
#1656 [08:46] <Tedixz> Ah, no. I'll do that right now
#1657 [08:46] <Thrae> Backup your single-player worlds if you want
#1658 [08:46] <Tedixz> No worries, my important ones are on the other computer :)
#1659 [08:47] <lolmanzee1> :)
#1660 [08:48] <lolmanzee1> ?
#1661 [08:48] <lolmanzee1> LOL
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#1663 [08:49] <JesseCM> so what do i do next
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#1666 [08:51] <mib_huuwzl> Hello
#1667 [08:51] <mib_huuwzl> i need help
#1668 [08:51] <mib_huuwzl> ....
#1669 [08:51] <Thrae> JesseCM: Go ahead and download this and place it in your Home directory -- https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1670 [08:51] <mib_huuwzl> i forgot my passwort
#1671 [08:51] <lolmanzee1> lol
#1672 [08:51] <mib_huuwzl> and the e-mail with the new one
#1673 [08:51] <lolmanzee1> mega fail
#1674 [08:52] <Thrae> mib_huuwzl: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1675 [08:52] <mib_huuwzl> didnt arived me
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#1677 [08:52] <Thrae> mib_huuwzl: Check your spam folder
#1678 [08:52] <mib_huuwzl> ok thanks
#1679 [08:52] <JesseCM> okay i did that
#1680 [08:52] <Thrae> mib_huuwzl: If it's still not there, double-check your username -- http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1681 [08:52] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, what directory is Terminal currently listing?
#1682 [08:53] <Thrae> JesseCM: Type in "echo $PWD"
#1683 [08:53] <mib_huuwzl> echo $PWD
#1684 [08:54] <Thrae> mib_huuwzl: Wasn't talking to you, the person with the password problem
#1685 [08:54] <mib_huuwzl> ok...
#1686 [08:55] <mib_huuwzl> i did it thank you !
#1687 [08:55] <mib_huuwzl> got a new obne !
#1688 [08:56] <JesseCM> okay it said /Users/jamiekern
#1689 [08:57] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, so when you do "ls minecraft.jar" it should come back with "minecraft.jar"
#1690 [08:59] <JesseCM> it says -bash Is: command not found
#1691 [08:59] <Thrae> JesseCM: That's because it's LS in lowercase, which stands for "list"
#1692 [08:59] <JesseCM> i c
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#1694 [09:00] <JesseCM> says no such file or directory
#1695 [09:00] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, where did you move the minecraft.jar you downloaded to?
#1696 [09:01] <JesseCM> on the hot bar in bottom of screen
#1697 [09:01] <Thrae> JesseCM: You want it to be in your Home directory
#1698 [09:01] <JesseCM> where is that
#1699 [09:02] <Thrae> JesseCM: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/8767.html
#1700 [09:02] <Thrae> JesseCM: Also, http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2549
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#1703 [09:06] <JesseCM> in what folder in my home directory
#1704 [09:06] <JesseCM> nevermind its their
#1705 [09:06] <Thrae> JesseCM: No folder ;)
#1706 [09:08] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, now go back to Terminal and type this in -- "java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1707 [09:11] <JesseCM> says NoClassDefFoundError Xms512M
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#1711 [09:12] <Mystery92> Can anyone help me with an issue I've got?
#1712 [09:12] <mib_e24qup> what to do to play online
#1713 [09:12] <Thrae> JesseCM: Hit UP on your keyboard and use the arrow keys to edit in a dash before "Xms". You want to make sure there's a dash before both "Xmx", "Xms", and "cp"
#1714 [09:12] <mib_e24qup> what to do to play online
#1715 [09:12] <Thrae> mib_e24qup: Either play Classic or buy Premium
#1716 [09:13] <mib_e24qup> no rassa
#1717 [09:13] <Vivek> thrae, i tried the pastebin you gave me to increase the ram used, but i got an error message
#1718 [09:13] <mib_e24qup> what to do to play online
#1719 [09:13] <Mystery92> I get an error when I want to update minecraft.
#1720 [09:13] <Thrae> Vivek: "Cannot create the Java Virtual Machine"?
#1721 [09:13] <JesseCM> okay i figured i screwed that up a big list came up
#1722 [09:14] <Mystery92> "address family not supported by protocol family: connect"
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#1724 [09:14] <Vivek> no ill type it out
#1725 [09:14] <mib_e24qup> русские есть
#1726 [09:14] <Vivek> or on second thoughts print screen it
#1727 [09:14] <alex-> Anyone who can help me with mineOS?
#1728 [09:14] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, just copy & paste the command-- "java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" (not including quotes)
#1729 [09:14] <Thrae> Vivek: If it's from Java you can just copy it
#1730 [09:14] <Thrae> Mystery92: Re-download the launcher. Sounds like it's corrupt, or Java is.
#1731 [09:15] <Mystery92> I did redownload, nothing changed.
#1732 [09:15] <Mystery92> And I also updated to java 7
#1733 [09:15] <Thrae> Mystery92: Windows, Mac, Linux, other?
#1734 [09:15] <Vivek> the message is in the command prompt
#1735 [09:15] <Mystery92> Win 7
#1736 [09:15] <Thrae> Don't update to Java 7
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#1738 [09:16] <Mystery92> So stick with 6?
#1739 [09:16] <alex-> why not Thrae ?
#1740 [09:16] <JesseCM> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#1741 [09:16] <Thrae> There are known problems with Minecraft running on Java 7 -- there's a reason Oracle-Sun hasn't fully released Java 7 yet
#1742 [09:16] <JesseCM> this is what came up when i copy and pasted
#1743 [09:16] <Thrae> JesseCM: OK, do "ls minecraft.jar", does it come back with "minecraft.jar" ?
#1744 [09:17] <JesseCM> ls: minecraft.jar: No such file or directory
#1745 [09:17] <Thrae> JesseCM: ls *.jar
#1746 [09:18] <JesseCM> ls: *.jar: No such file or directory
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#1748 [09:19] <Vivek> im making a short video with my error message as it wont let me print screen
#1749 [09:19] <Vivek> ill pm to yo
#1750 [09:19] <Vivek> *you
#1751 [09:19] <Thrae> Vivek: Is it something like "Can't find C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe"
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#1753 [09:20] <JesseCM> if i leave its because i threw the computer across the room
#1754 [09:20] <Mystery92> @Thrae: It worked, no more error. Do you know of a way to speed up the updater though? It's downloading very slowly..
#1755 [09:20] <Vivek> nope
#1756 [09:20] <Thrae> ??> JesseCM teamviewer
#1757 [09:20] <VoxelHead> JesseCM: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1758 [09:21] <VoxelHead> JesseCM: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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#1760 [09:21] <JesseCM> good idea
#1761 [09:21] <Thrae> JesseCM: You're welcome to install TeamViewer and have me have a look, then do /msg Thrae teamviewerpass teamviewerid
#1762 [09:21] <Riderx> Hello, anybody know why the registration keeps telling me "bad authenticity token"?
#1763 [09:21] <Thrae> (Don't paste the pass and id in the channel)
#1764 [09:21] <Thrae> Riderx: What's your system date and time
#1765 [09:22] <JesseCM> thank you i am sorry i just got done working a 10 hour shift at the county jail my eyes are fuzzing
#1766 [09:22] <Riderx> September 24, 8:24 AM
#1767 [09:22] <Vivek> thrae, you get my pm?
#1768 [09:22] <Thrae> Vivek: Yes
#1769 [09:22] <Vivek> ok
#1770 [09:22] <Thrae> Riderx: Hmm, try a different browser
#1771 [09:23] <Riderx> ok
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#1774 [09:26] <yvoms> hi
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#1776 [09:29] <Vivek> any ideas thrae?
#1777 [09:33] <Vivek> thrae?
#1778 [09:34] <Riderx> Thank you very much Thrae ! I got it to work finally!
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#1782 [09:46] <Thrae> Vivek: Sorry currently have my hands full
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#1784 [09:47] <Thrae> ??< mac/10.5.8
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#1790 [09:56] <ManuXz> hey guys, ehm i have some question... I bought me an prem. account at 10 days ago and nothing will happened.... can someone help me?
#1791 [10:04] <Thrae> ManuXz: Username?
#1792 [10:06] <ManuXz> MAnuXz
#1793 [10:06] <ManuXz> sry ManuXz
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#1795 [10:08] <tankster> yesterday i played on a server, today it says "can't reach server".
#1796 [10:08] <tankster> can someone help?
#1797 [10:09] <ManuXz> ehm for this problem you ave to conact the Server Owner
#1798 [10:09] <tankster> ok
#1799 [10:09] <tankster> but a friend of me said he can join
#1800 [10:09] <ManuXz> have this server any Forum?
#1801 [10:09] <tankster> nope
#1802 [10:09] <ManuXz> oh hmm..
#1803 [10:09] <ManuXz> did the Version uptaed?
#1804 [10:09] <ManuXz> and you have only 1.8 and not 1.8.1
#1805 [10:09] <tankster> i have 1.8.1, as well as the server had yesterday
#1806 [10:10] <ManuXz> hmm..
#1807 [10:10] <ManuXz> do it say End OF strem? when you try?
#1808 [10:10] <tankster> no
#1809 [10:10] <tankster> it says polling, then cant reach server
#1810 [10:10] <ManuXz> try to connect
#1811 [10:10] <tankster> okay
#1812 [10:11] <ManuXz> and it culs say end of stream
#1813 [10:11] <tankster> connection timed out: connect
#1814 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Then the server is down
#1815 [10:11] <ManuXz> all right ...
#1816 [10:11] <tankster> ok
#1817 [10:11] <ManuXz> give me the Ip please i try
#1818 [10:11] <tankster> then someone lied to me...
#1819 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#1820 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to that, there's nothing wrong on your end
#1821 [10:12] <tankster> 195.82.159.125
#1822 [10:12] <tankster> i have another server in my list, and that one works
#1823 [10:13] <ManuXz> This Server is offline Your friend lied
#1824 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Then that particular server is definitely down
#1825 [10:13] <tankster> ok
#1826 [10:13] <tankster> thank nyou for the help
#1827 [10:13] <ManuXz> wait or contact the owner
#1828 [10:13] <ManuXz> np
#1829 [10:13] <tankster> i will do that
#1830 [10:15] <Thrae> ??< index
#1831 [10:15] <ManuXz> I bought me an prem. account at 10 days ago and nothing will happened.... can someone help me?
#1832 [10:16] <ManuXz> my name is ManuXz
#1833 [10:16] <ManuXz> so Username
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#1835 [10:17] <Frog100> Hi ;)
#1836 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> ManuXz - Have you received any confirmation emails?
#1837 [10:17] <ManuXz> I dont got anyemails about
#1838 [10:17] <ManuXz> this
#1839 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Then check with whatever you used to pay for minecraft, see if there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB for Minecraft.
#1840 [10:19] <ManuXz> no email I already dne this nothing ! ... and i dont trus to buy it again!
#1841 [10:19] <ManuXz> ehm sry
#1842 [10:19] <ManuXz> wait .-..
#1843 [10:20] <bernard> omg its grey vulpine i cussed u out bfore :D
#1844 [10:20] <bernard> i remember that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1845 [10:20] <ManuXz> they gt no mony i payed with EC..... and i cheacked my bank ....nithing will happend there
#1846 [10:20] <bernard> no thx
#1847 [10:21] <bernard> shut it voxel
#1848 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> ManuXz - Then the transaction was never completed
#1849 [10:21] <bernard> hey everyone ill be back saying ribbet ok
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#1851 [10:21] <bernard> fuck u grey vulpine and even more fuck you voxel
#1852 [10:21] * AuBot kicked bernard from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ernard :Please keep it civil.)
#1853 [10:22] <ManuXz> how long would it be
#1854 [10:22] * mib_u18l7i [mib_u18l7i@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1855 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> ManuXz - If your bank never gave Mojang any money, the transaction was never completed on their end
#1856 [10:22] <bernard2> sup
#1857 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> !kb bernard2
#1858 [10:22] * GreyBot kicked bernard2 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ernard2 :<Kicks:826>)
#1859 [10:22] * GreyVulpine waves
#1859 [10:22] <ManuXz> also i could take for a vry long time( open end wait)
#1860 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> ManuXz - I'd call your bank and see why they would be stopping the payment, or why the payment never was completed.
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#1862 [10:24] <Thrae> ManuXz: You don't have to PM me -- what GreyVulpine said is correct. You have to check with your bank first. It's very common that international payments are stopped by banks' auto-fraud detection automatically.
#1863 [10:24] <ManuXz> all right thanks for help! so I wait and for 2 weeks i will kontact my bank Thrae ... takealok at thim ive written! to you
#1864 [10:25] <ManuXz> orry
#1865 [10:25] <Thrae> GreyVulpine knows more about this than I do
#1866 [10:25] <ManuXz> Thrae take a look at the time ive written my question to you
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#1868 [10:26] <ManuXz> so thanks GreyVu ....bye
#1869 [10:26] <Frog100> anyone have a second for a question? ;o
#1870 [10:26] <Thrae> Frog100: Sure.
#1871 [10:27] <Frog100> since 1.8 came out, haven't been able to load any worlds on my Mac, know if there have been any fixes by any chance?
#1872 [10:27] <Thrae> Frog100: What's your OS X version?
#1873 [10:28] <Frog100> 10.5.8
#1874 [10:28] <Thrae> ?? mac/10.5.8
#1875 [10:28] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1876 [10:28] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1877 [10:29] <Frog100> You are my hero if that works ;o
#1878 [10:29] <Thrae> Also, 1.9 Pre-release has a fix (more like a workaround for the buggy drivers on 10.5.8)
#1879 [10:29] <Frog100> I see
#1880 [10:29] <Frog100> Well, I think im going to have to try this
#1881 [10:29] <Frog100> xD
#1882 [10:30] <Frog100> Thanks <3
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#1884 [10:34] <Thrae> Frog100: I just made a handy script for auto-downloading 1.9 Pre-release on Macs, if you want to help me test it -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/mcadd1_9mac.sh
#1885 [10:35] <Frog100> Sure :)
#1886 [10:35] <Frog100> redirecting me to a realator website lol
#1887 [10:36] <Thrae> Once you download it, remember to open the Terminal and enter in "chmod +x mcadd1_9mac.sh" before you enter in "./mcadd1_9mac.sh"
#1888 [10:36] <Thrae> What
#1889 [10:36] * Thrae double-checks his hosting's dynamic IP
#1889 [10:36] <Frog100> Oh
#1890 [10:36] <Frog100> I see
#1891 [10:36] <Frog100> ignore that
#1892 [10:36] <Frog100> xD
#1893 [10:37] <Thrae> eh?
#1894 [10:37] <Frog100> downloaded, let me run it through terminal
#1895 [10:38] <Frog100> macbook:~ matt$ chmod +x mcadd1_9mac.sh
#1896 [10:38] <Frog100> chmod: mcadd1_9mac.sh: No such file or directory
#1897 [10:38] <Frog100> Should I be directing the request somewhere?
#1898 [10:38] <Thrae> I'm not sure where Safari downloads things by default....
#1899 [10:39] <Thrae> The Terminal opens in your Home directory, so you can just move it there
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#1901 [10:39] <Frog100> im running chrome right now
#1902 [10:39] <Thrae> Well then Chrome
#1903 [10:39] <Thrae> Just move the file to your Home directory
#1904 [10:40] <Thrae> Alternatively, you can type in "curl http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/mcadd1_9mac.sh --O mcadd1_9mac.sh" in Terminal
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#1906 [10:41] <Frog100> That got results ;p
#1907 [10:41] <mib_jiov7z> hi
#1908 [10:41] <Thrae> now you can do "chmod +x mcadd1_9mac.sh; ./mcadd1_9mac.sh"
#1909 [10:41] <mib_jiov7z> i have a problam loading my game
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#1911 [10:41] * Thrae wonders if this is really that easy for Macs
#1911 [10:42] <Frog100> lol
#1912 [10:42] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: Yes? Please elaborate.
#1913 [10:43] <mib_jiov7z> when i log in on the luncher the updating bar gets stuck
#1914 [10:43] <mib_jiov7z> and wont update
#1915 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> When does it get stuck?
#1916 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> How far in the progress bar?
#1917 [10:45] <mib_jiov7z> hes sayes downloading packeges
#1918 [10:45] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: Does this happen with the in-browser version? Are you running any Security software in Windows?
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#1920 [10:46] <mib_jiov7z> it happens on both versions and yes
#1921 [10:46] <Thrae> Try disabling your Security software.
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#1923 [10:47] <Thrae> Just temporarily, of course.
#1924 [10:48] <mib_jiov7z> no effect
#1925 [10:49] <mib_jiov7z> it still gets stuck
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#1927 [10:50] <Vivek> my pc just crashed while i was hosting a server, now some of the chunks are missing any ideas?
#1928 [10:50] <Thrae> Vivek: No backup?
#1929 [10:50] <Vivek> usually i would use a backup or copy some random files from a backup into the server world so we can keep our inventory
#1930 [10:51] <Vivek> no we were having a war and only started friday so i didnt make one
#1931 [10:51] <Vivek> the server still runs but there are a lot of chunks missing in the landscape
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#1933 [10:51] <Vivek> often i copy the level_dat from a backup into the corrupted world and it fixes it
#1934 [10:52] <mib_jiov7z> dude?
#1935 [10:52] <Vivek> i have a backup but its without any of our stuff on it so thats where i copy from
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#1937 [10:52] <Thrae> Vivek: Are you getting chunk errors, or you just noticed the missing chunks?
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#1939 [10:52] <Vivek> there are chunks missing where there were chunks before it blue screened
#1940 [10:52] <mib_u7tgqu> help please
#1941 [10:53] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp <-- verify Java is working properly and what version it is
#1942 [10:53] <mib_u7tgqu> Help please--with minecraft problem
#1943 [10:53] <Vivek> usually if it crashes the srever wont start up and i have to load a backup, recently i am able to copy a level_dat from a backup so we dont lose progress
#1944 [10:53] <Vivek> but that didnt help for the chunk problem
#1945 [10:54] <Thrae> Vivek: You can try doing a file recovery on your partition, which is way out of the scope of this channel, but most likely those chunks are just gone
#1946 [10:54] <mib_jiov7z> he sayed theres no problam
#1947 [10:54] <Vivek> also the server ran after my pc crashed, so im guessing some chunks didnt save
#1948 [10:54] <mib_u7tgqu> can anybody help me
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#1950 [10:54] <Vivek> shucks
#1951 [10:54] <Thrae> mib_u7tgqu: How can we help when you haven't stated a problem?
#1952 [10:54] <Vivek> lol
#1953 [10:55] <Thrae> Vivek: NO application is safe from data corruption due to OS or file system failure. Period.
#1954 [10:55] <Vivek> im going to try copying some files from the dim folder incase that solves it, if not ill use the corrupter copy
#1955 [10:55] <Vivek> my pc is new yet it crashes so often :(
#1956 [10:55] <Thrae> That's why we have backup programs provided with so many OSes, and technology like RAID
#1957 [10:56] <Vivek> yeah...
#1958 [10:56] <Thrae> Vivek: You're using Windows 7 for the server?
#1959 [10:56] <Vivek> yep
#1960 [10:56] <Vivek> if my random file copying doesnt work ill just have to live with it
#1961 [10:56] <Vivek> its a hamachi server btw
#1962 [10:57] <Vivek> i know they arent great but its ok for us
#1963 [10:57] <mib_u7tgqu> ok i bought the game like 3 hours ago everything went well bla bla....but not email was sent to my email address...it still says that i have not bought the game....?WTF
#1964 [10:57] <mib_u7tgqu> no*
#1965 [10:57] <Thrae> Vivek: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/10392-write-caching-enable-disable.html <-- you can disable write-caching altogether...it'll be slower, but less chance of corruption
#1966 [10:58] <mib_u7tgqu> ):
#1967 [10:58] <Thrae> ??> mib_u7tgqu payment
#1968 [10:58] <VoxelHead> mib_u7tgqu: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1969 [10:58] <mib_jiov7z> dude....
#1970 [10:58] <VoxelHead> mib_u7tgqu: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1971 [10:59] <mib_u7tgqu> inow i payed by visa
#1972 [10:59] <mib_u7tgqu> i know*
#1973 [10:59] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: You never told me your version of Java
#1974 [10:59] <mib_u7tgqu> ok il shall wait...thank you
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#1976 [11:00] <Thrae> mib_u7tgqu: Double-check with Visa the payment went through on their end to Paypal / Moneybrokers. Even if it did, Mojang can take up to 5 business days (weekends are not business days) to process payment.
#1977 [11:00] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: What is your Java version?
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#1979 [11:00] <mib_jiov7z> java se 6 update 27
#1980 [11:00] <Thrae> ??> mib_jiov7z win/reinst/bat
#1981 [11:00] <VoxelHead> mib_jiov7z: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1982 [11:00] <VoxelHead> mib_jiov7z: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1983 [11:00] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: Run that batch file ^^^^
#1984 [11:00] <v1vek> well thanks for trying thrae
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#1987 [11:01] <v1vek> and did you have any ideas about the render thing
#1988 [11:01] <mib_c6i9qx> i cant play minecraft
#1989 [11:01] <Thrae> v1vek: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/10392-write-caching-enable-disable.html <-- you can disable write-caching altogether...it'll be slower, but less chance of corruption
#1990 [11:01] <v1vek> i got that, but id rather not risk it
#1991 [11:01] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Windows, Mac, Linux, other, and what's the problem exactly?
#1992 [11:01] <v1vek> the video i sent about the .bat?
#1993 [11:02] <Thrae> v1vek: It's LESS risky to disable write-caching, it's just slower
#1994 [11:02] <Thrae> v1vek: You didn't put the batch file in the same folder as Minecraft.exe
#1995 [11:02] <mib_c6i9qx> i cant play minecraft because of the acceleraate opnegl mode and that stuff how do i do it
#1996 [11:02] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Windows, Mac, Linux, or other?
#1997 [11:02] <mib_c6i9qx> windows
#1998 [11:03] <Thrae> ??> mib_c6i9qx win/dxdiag
#1999 [11:03] <VoxelHead> mib_c6i9qx: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2000 [11:03] <VoxelHead> mib_c6i9qx: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2001 [11:03] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Follow those instructions from VoxelHead and we can tell you what your hardware is and how to/if you can update your graphics drivers.
#2002 [11:03] <mib_jiov7z> still....
#2003 [11:03] <mib_jiov7z> it doesnt work
#2004 [11:04] <v1vek> oh you didnt mention that, you said the same folder as the .jar
#2005 [11:04] <Thrae> mib_jiov7z: Go to Programs and Features, uninstall all versions of Java there, then go to http://www.java.com/en/download/ and re-download
#2006 [11:04] * v1vek facepalms
#2006 [11:04] <Thrae> v1vek: No, I said the same folder as the EXE
#2007 [11:04] <Vivek> whoops
#2008 [11:05] <Thrae> I might have been helping out a Mac guy at the time and talking about the JAR to him
#2009 [11:05] <Vivek> ill try that then :)
#2010 [11:05] <Vivek> ah yes you were
#2011 [11:05] <mib_c6i9qx> win+r dxdiag
#2012 [11:05] <Vivek> you gave me the same pastebin as him
#2013 [11:05] <Thrae> ??> mib_c6i9qx win/key
#2014 [11:05] <VoxelHead> mib_c6i9qx: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2015 [11:05] <Thrae> Vivek: I didn't give you a pastebin
#2016 [11:05] <Vivek> also, do you know anything about the folders found in a world folder?
#2017 [11:05] <Thrae> Maybe another helper did
#2018 [11:06] <Thrae> What about the folders found in a world folder?
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#2020 [11:07] <Vivek> my bad, morrolan gave me the pastebin that you sent to that guy
#2021 [11:07] <Vivek> do you know what those folders are for
#2022 [11:07] <mib_c6i9qx> it doesnt work
#2023 [11:07] <Vivek> i muck about with them after crashes so id like to know what im messing with
#2024 [11:07] <Ryladine> Which folders Vivek?
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#2026 [11:08] <Vivek> i make a copy of the corrupted world then copy random files from a working world folder into the corrupt one and hope for the best
#2027 [11:08] <Thrae> Something like -- "data -- server-specific data" "region -- chunks in MCR format" "players -- server-side player data"
#2028 [11:08] <Cenvix> is minecraft.net down???
#2029 [11:08] <Thrae> !isdown
#2030 [11:08] <Cenvix> I can't login
#2031 [11:08] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2032 [11:08] <mib_c6i9qx> about minecraft the opne gl mode stuuf
#2033 [11:08] <Vivek> um ones like region, data, dim_1 or whatever they are
#2034 [11:08] <Cenvix> great
#2035 [11:09] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: You need to follow VoxelHead's instructions so we can help you further.
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#2037 [11:09] <Cenvix> how do I fix this???
#2038 [11:09] <mib_c6i9qx> about minecraft the opengl mode
#2039 [11:09] <Thrae> Vivek: The chunks are kept in "region", AFAIK.
#2040 [11:09] <Thrae> <mib_c6i9qx> about minecraft the opengl mode <-- You need to follow VoxelHead's instructions for giving us your DxDiag info
#2041 [11:10] <mib_c6i9qx> how do i do that
#2042 [11:10] <Thrae> Cenvix: Download the latest launcher from minecraft.net. The old one doesn't work anymore since a couple of weeks ago.
#2043 [11:10] <madnessefi> P.S i changed my name here
#2044 [11:10] <Ryladine> ?? dxdiag
#2045 [11:10] <Cenvix> oh... thanks :D
#2046 [11:10] <Vivek> oh ok
#2047 [11:10] <Ryladine> hmm lol
#2048 [11:10] <Ryladine> I got that one wrong XD
#2049 [11:11] <Vivek> well i messed with that and it didnt work so ill go try messing with something else
#2050 [11:11] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: First, hold down the Windows Key and then press the R key on your keyboard. The Run window should pop open.
#2051 [11:11] <Vivek> thanks for clearing up the .bat problem and everything else :)
#2052 [11:11] <mib_c6i9qx> ok
#2053 [11:11] <Thrae> Vivek: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/13807-mcedit-minecraft-world-editor-compatible-with-mc-beta-18/
#2054 [11:11] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Type in "dxdiag" (without quotes), then press Enter.
#2055 [11:12] <Thrae> ?? win/dxdiag
#2056 [11:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2057 [11:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2058 [11:12] <mib_c6i9qx> i did that now what
#2059 [11:12] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Follow the rest of VoxelHead's instructions from "Press enter."
#2060 [11:13] <Thrae> madnessefi: And you are?
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#2062 [11:14] <madnessefi> the guy how had problam with the loading bar
#2063 [11:14] <GenghisTebo> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 9/24/11
#2064 [11:14] <mib_c6i9qx> it took me to the directx diagnostic tool? what do i do there
#2065 [11:14] <Thrae> madnessefi: mib_jiov7z ?
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#2067 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - Please use pastebin.com to share large amounts of text
#2068 [11:14] <madnessefi> yes
#2069 [11:15] <Thrae> madnessefi: OK, did you reinstall Java 6?
#2070 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - You can use www.pastebin.com and paste text there, then give us the URL to it
#2071 [11:15] <madnessefi> yes
#2072 [11:15] <madnessefi> it doesnt work
#2073 [11:15] <Thrae> madnessefi: Did that fix the problem?
#2074 [11:15] <madnessefi> no
#2075 [11:15] <Thrae> ??> madnessefi win/javara
#2076 [11:15] <VoxelHead> madnessefi: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2077 [11:15] <VoxelHead> madnessefi: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2078 [11:16] <mib_c6i9qx> it took me to the directx diagnostic tool
#2079 [11:17] <Thrae> madnessefi: Use that to blast Java out of the way, once again, and once again uninstall and reinstall Java 6.
#2080 [11:18] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop. Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2084 [11:22] <GenghisTebo> Ok my minecraft keeps crashing it was working fine yesterday now it gives me a error how do I add the pastebin.com text in here?
#2085 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> You give us the URL to the pastebin
#2086 [11:22] <mib_c6i9qx> the link?
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#2088 [11:22] <GenghisTebo> ok heres the link http://pastebin.com/8pKtsZA
#2089 [11:23] <kermie> hallo, ist hier jemand deutsch?
#2090 [11:23] <wippler> my minecraft has a grey screen i deleted the bin folder and its still grey
#2091 [11:23] * mib_ibl8b2 [mib_ibl8b2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2092 [11:23] <wippler> ja
#2093 [11:23] <kermie> cool
#2094 [11:23] <kermie> ich habe ein problem, ich kann nicht mit meinem acc online spielen
#2095 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - That link doesn't exist
#2096 [11:23] <mib_c6i9qx> what link were is it?
#2097 [11:23] <kermie> und auf der minecraft seite im browser kann ich auf keinen server zugreifen )=
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#2099 [11:24] <mib_c6i9qx> what link?
#2100 [11:25] <GenghisTebo> http://pastebin.com/8pKtsZAq
#2101 [11:25] <madnessefi> dude it doesnt work
#2102 [11:25] <wippler> my minecraft has a grey screen i deleted the bin folder and its still grey
#2103 [11:25] <GenghisTebo> I'm on the page right now in another tab
#2104 [11:25] <kermie> wippler ich habe ein problem, ich kann nicht mit meinem acc online spielen und auf der minecraft seite im browser kann ich auf keinen server zugreifen )=
#2105 [11:26] <Thrae> madnessefi: Does your Windows username have a ! in it? And is your system date & time correct for your time zone?
#2106 [11:26] <wippler> i dont speak too much deustch
#2107 [11:26] <Thrae> kermie: English, please
#2108 [11:26] <kermie> ok
#2109 [11:26] <Thrae> wippler: Windows?
#2110 [11:26] <wippler> i understood that though
#2111 [11:27] <wippler> ya i have windows
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#2113 [11:27] <madnessefi> no and yes
#2114 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - Do you know how to update your video drivers?
#2115 [11:27] <GenghisTebo> Ok I don't know what to do if the link doesn't work for you guys it works fine for me
#2116 [11:27] <kermie> I cant log in with my accound, i can only play offline. ...and on minecraft.net he didnt connect to the server
#2117 [11:27] <kermie> what can i do)=
#2118 [11:27] <GenghisTebo> I updated them yesterday
#2119 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - From where?
#2120 [11:28] <GenghisTebo> Geforce cd that came with my card I installed yesturday
#2121 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> kermie - What is the exact error you're getting when you try to login?
#2122 [11:28] <Thrae> kermie: How long ago did you purchase Premium?
#2123 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - Try these, they're more recent and up-to-date: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-280.26-whql-driver.html
#2124 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - The ones typically shipped with the cd are VERY old
#2125 [11:29] <GenghisTebo> is that one compatible with my card?
#2126 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2127 [11:29] <GenghisTebo> k
#2128 [11:29] <wippler> my screen is grey and i deleted the bin folder but i still cant play in browser!
#2129 [11:30] <kermie> i bought it about january..and there is no error, it only says LOG IN FAILD
#2130 [11:30] <xales> wippler: Install Java
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#2132 [11:30] <xales> kermie: Your username or password is incorrect
#2133 [11:30] <wippler> i did
#2134 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Redownload the launcher
#2135 [11:30] <Thrae> ??> wippler win/reinst/bat
#2136 [11:30] <xales> wippler: Uninstall it, then install it again
#2137 [11:30] <VoxelHead> wippler: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2138 [11:30] <VoxelHead> wippler: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2139 [11:30] <mib_c6i9qx> weres the irc channel at
#2140 [11:30] <Thrae> wippler: Run that batch file, re-download the launcher, and try again.
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#2142 [11:30] <xales> Um, here
#2143 [11:30] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: This is the IRC chanel.
#2144 [11:31] <mib_c6i9qx> lol http://pastebin.com/dMjbTyK1
#2145 [11:31] <mib_c6i9qx> i paste it
#2146 [11:31] <kermie> GreyVulpine i did so, it doesnt work
#2147 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Are you sure you downloaded the most recent launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#2148 [11:32] <kermie> xales it isnt )=
#2149 [11:32] <mib_c6i9qx> now what
#2150 [11:32] <kermie> yes
#2151 [11:32] <kermie> GreyVulpine yes
#2152 [11:32] <xales> kermie: If you have the latest launcher, then your username or pasword is incorrect
#2153 [11:32] <kermie> xales but it isnt, i can login on minecraft.net
#2154 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Then redownload the launcher again from minecraft.net/download
#2155 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're using that launcher directy
#2156 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> er, directly
#2157 [11:33] <kermie> ok, i will try
#2158 [11:34] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: One sec
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#2160 [11:34] <mib_c6i9qx> ok
#2161 [11:34] <NermaN> hi all
#2162 [11:34] <kermie> shall i deinstal the latest launcher?
#2163 [11:34] <NermaN> can anyone give working way to find stronghold or save with them?
#2164 [11:34] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: Your notebook is on the brink of being able to work or not work, it's hardware is just too low spec....lemme see if there's a driver you can use
#2165 [11:35] <mib_c6i9qx> how i do that
#2166 [11:35] <mib_c6i9qx> ok
#2167 [11:35] <kermie> GreyVulpine shall i deinstal the latest launcher?
#2168 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> kermie - If you want, just make sure you're using the most recent launcher that you got from minecraft.net/download
#2169 [11:35] <madnessefi> dude im still here
#2170 [11:37] <Kaito> does gravel falling into a torch not yield flint?
#2171 [11:37] <kermie> GreyVulpine I really have to say thank you (= it works
#2172 [11:37] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2172 [11:37] <kermie> this forum helped me three times now
#2173 [11:37] <Thrae> mib_c6i9qx: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16835/a08/winxp_14324.exe , download and install
#2174 [11:37] <kermie> thank you all!
#2175 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Kaito - It doesn't
#2176 [11:38] <Kaito> :(
#2177 [11:38] <mib_c6i9qx> ok
#2178 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Kaito - you need to mine gravel directly to yield flint
#2179 [11:38] <Kaito> darn
#2180 [11:38] <Kaito> i was hoping i could do that to get rid of stacks of gravel to get a boatload of flint :)
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#2182 [11:38] <Thrae> madnessefi: I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
#2183 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Had the same thought when I first started out..
#2184 [11:39] <Thrae> madnessefi: Can't connect to minecraft.net through Java either in launcher or in browser, but can browse the website...you disabled Security software...reinstalled Java several times, even using JavaRa...reinstalled Minecraft's local files...
#2185 [11:40] <Kaito> i guess i gotta have a lava trash can again :P
#2186 [11:40] <Thrae> madnessefi: Are you sure you disabled your Firewall?
#2187 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Thrae - http://login.minecraft.net loads?
#2188 [11:42] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: He said it did
#2189 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> With "bad login"?
#2190 [11:42] * GreyVulpine pokes madnessefi
#2190 [11:42] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Sorry, his problem is that it won't finish downloading, not that it won't connect
#2191 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. um
#2192 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> And what happens in the launcher?
#2193 [11:42] <mib_c6i9qx> i installed it
#2194 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net?
#2195 [11:43] <Kaito> WOOHOO!!!!
#2196 [11:43] <Kaito> 20 slime balls
#2197 [11:43] <Kaito> my slime cave has served its purpse :)
#2198 [11:43] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: madnessefi 's launcher just sits there at a certain point downloading files, same with browser version he says
#2199 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Then, most likely firewall/security software
#2200 [11:43] <Thrae> Yeah
#2201 [11:44] <madnessefi> but its disabeld
#2202 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> What software do you run?
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#2204 [11:44] <Thrae> What Internet Security, Firewall, and/or Virus scanner do you run?
#2205 [11:44] <madnessefi> what?
#2206 [11:44] <madnessefi> kasperski
#2207 [11:45] <madnessefi> but its off
#2208 [11:45] <GenghisTebo> Ok I downloaded that driver an installed it an now screen is set to 4 colors an 800x600 an it won't let me change the settings
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#2210 [11:45] <Thrae> madnessefi: Is Windows Firewall still turned on?
#2211 [11:45] <madnessefi> no
#2212 [11:45] <MFanatik> anyone can help me?
#2213 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> GenghisTebo - Those are the proper drivers for your system, did you install them completely?
#2214 [11:45] <Thrae> GenghisTebo: Sounds like the driver didn't actually install
#2215 [11:46] <MFanatik> i need help minecraft keeps crashing
#2216 [11:46] <GenghisTebo> the install program did it all itself
#2217 [11:46] <Thrae> MFanatik: Paste the Java error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link so we can inspect it.
#2218 [11:47] <GenghisTebo> an its showing the driver as updated too that version
#2219 [11:47] <Thrae> GenghisTebo: Can you get into the Nvidia Control Panel?
#2220 [11:47] <MFanatik> well minecraft crashes whitout eror
#2221 [11:47] <GenghisTebo> no
#2222 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> madnessefi - Would you like to test the theory by uninstalling kaspersky completely?
#2223 [11:47] <Thrae> GenghisTebo: Reinstall the driver, this time selecting "Clean Install"
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#2225 [11:48] <GenghisTebo> it doesn't give that option
#2226 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> It does under Custom Install
#2227 [11:48] <GenghisTebo> ok
#2228 [11:48] <Thrae> ^
#2229 [11:48] <Thrae> MFanatik: Anything like hs_err_pid.txt in the same folder as Minecraft.exe or JAR?
#2230 [11:49] <madnessefi> GreyVulpine the thing is i dont have any other antivirus
#2231 [11:49] <MFanatik> wait
#2232 [11:49] <Acid20> wug there?
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#2234 [11:50] <Thrae> madnessefi: I think it'll also work in Safe Mode if you select "Safe Mode with Networking", so you can also try that if you're squeemish. Reboot, hit F8 *BEFORE* the Windows logo appears and says it's loading the Welcome Screen, you'll get a text-only menu.
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#2236 [11:50] <Thrae> Anyone feel free to correct me on if Java networking works in Safe Mode
#2237 [11:51] <Wug> I'd assume it does
#2238 [11:51] <Thrae> I remember using it, but not Minecraft specifically
#2239 [11:51] <mib_ni4b0o> im back sory i installed it
#2240 [11:51] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: You're the person with the Thinkpad?
#2241 [11:51] <madnessefi> ok ill try it
#2242 [11:52] <mib_ni4b0o> no with the minecraft
#2243 [11:52] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: ...What was your nickname before. There are lots of people in here getting help at once.
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#2245 [11:53] <mib_ni4b0o> umm dam i forgot i was talking to to mib_6 something
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#2249 [11:53] <mib_ni4b0o> i think
#2250 [11:53] <Babou> hello
#2251 [11:53] <Babou> sorry
#2252 [11:54] <Babou> got pb about my game
#2253 [11:54] <Babou> can you help me ?
#2254 [11:54] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: <mib_c6i9qx>
#2255 [11:54] <mib_ni4b0o> yeah him
#2256 [11:54] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: Your BIOS says you have a ThinkPad. Do you not have a Lenovo laptop?
#2257 [11:54] <MFanatik> fixed
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#2259 [11:54] <MFanatik> minecraft by myself
#2260 [11:55] <MFanatik> bye all
#2261 [11:55] <Babou> bye
#2262 [11:55] <mib_ni4b0o> umm its a ibm thinkpad
#2263 [11:55] <Babou> well could you help me ?
#2264 [11:56] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: Lenovo is a subsidiary of IBM and has been handling their laptops. Your DxDiag says "System Manufacturer: LENOVO"
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#2266 [11:56] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: Anyway, does it work?
#2267 [11:57] <mib_ni4b0o> what works?
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#2269 [11:58] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: Minecraft. Does Minecraft work now?
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#2273 [11:59] <mib_ni4b0o> oh i dont know yet he told me installed something so i came back if there was something else to do
#2274 [11:59] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: Try Minecraft again to see if it works.
#2275 [12:00] <mib_ni4b0o> ok
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#2277 [12:01] <mib_ni4b0o> yea it works thank you ay tell the other thanks you guys are the best
#2278 [12:02] <mysterlune> hi, for some reason, my machine is not able to get past 20% when downloading lwjgl.jar... using Windows 7 (x86) i've tried a number of times (deleting the whole .minecraft folder, choosing "Force Update"... no luck.
#2279 [12:02] <Thrae> mib_ni4b0o: What you did is update your graphics driver. Remember that for the future.
#2280 [12:02] <Thrae> mysterlune: This is usually security software on Windows messing it up. Does the browser version work?
#2281 [12:04] <mysterlune> i was just starting to suspect that a minute ago... (it's actually my kid's friend's machine.... so i'm not up on the firewall/security mumbojumbo going on with this machine...) let me check the browser version.... brb
#2282 [12:04] <GenghisTebo> Ok that worked Thank you guys for all your help I really Appreciate it thank you all again
#2283 [12:05] <mysterlune> hmmm... yeah, the browser version gets stuck on 20% downloading lwjgl.jar....
#2284 [12:06] <mib_ni4b0o> yea wen i need help i want to talk to u or the other guy thanks
#2285 [12:06] <Thrae> mysterlune: It might be the files after that, which are stuff like DLLs, so your security software is probably blocking it.
#2286 [12:07] <Andreasb> Does anyone know how the ping thingy in MC is supposed to work?
#2287 [12:07] <Andreasb> It shows full for me, and just 1 green bar for everyone else
#2288 [12:08] <Thrae> Andreasb: You mean for the servers? It will always be full when connecting locally unless there is a SERIOUS problem with your computer.
#2289 [12:09] <mysterlune> so if the download of lwjgl.jar is freezing consistently in both the browser version and the client app, it may be the downloads are getting blocked by the security setup. will check it out. thx.
#2290 [12:09] <Thrae> mysterlune: You can try going into Safe Mode and downloading it there. "Safe Mode with Networking" should be an option in the F8 Menu.
#2291 [12:10] <mysterlune> ah, good call.
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#2293 [12:11] <Andreasb> Thrae: Im connecting externally, and its full
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#2295 [12:11] <Andreasb> but doesnt full mean high ping?
#2296 [12:11] <Kaioshi> any #minecraft ops around?
#2297 [12:12] <RichardG> i'm having an issue with the 1.8.1 and 1.9pre vanilla servers
#2298 [12:12] <RichardG> my users can't break blocks
#2299 [12:12] <RichardG> unless they're opped
#2300 [12:12] <Andreasb> surely only 1 green is best ping?
#2301 [12:12] <RichardG> anyone also has this issue?
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#2303 [12:13] <Morrolan> Andreasb: I guess it's more like signal strength, even though that doesn't make too much sense. But you get the idea. ;)
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#2305 [12:13] <Andreasb> I see
#2306 [12:14] <Andreasb> Why does everyone else have 1 then?
#2307 [12:14] <vvenaya> sound check, 1 2 3
#2308 [12:14] <Andreasb> And in their client I have less than I see in mine. (Server is external, 20 ms to server)(
#2309 [12:14] <Kaito> STUPID CREEPERS!
#2310 [12:14] <Morrolan> Andreasb: Just checked on the server I'm on atm, and I myself have five, others have one.
#2311 [12:15] <vvenaya> Anyone having the same issue as i? i have no sound whatsoever ingame (sound is ok in windows/other apps)
#2312 [12:15] <Thrae> Andreasb: Can they ping the server using the command line? "ping server.address" ?
#2313 [12:15] <Andreasb> Nope
#2314 [12:15] <Morrolan> Since a ping to yourself will be rather quick it seems to be signal-strenght like.
#2315 [12:15] <Andreasb> Ping server isnt possible
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#2317 [12:15] <Andreasb> But I figured out it doesnt use ICMP to ping
#2318 [12:15] <RichardG> i'm having an issue with the 1.8.1 and 1.9pre vanilla servers, where my users can't break blocks unless hey are opped
#2319 [12:15] <RichardG> anyone else having this issue?
#2320 [12:15] <Thrae> Andreasb: Then how are you getting your own ping?
#2321 [12:15] <RichardG> *they are
#2322 [12:15] <Morrolan> Actually, I wonder whether it's client-to-client or client-to-server
#2323 [12:15] <Andreasb> RichardG: are they allowed to ping?
#2324 [12:15] <RichardG> i don't have permissions, it's a vanilla server
#2325 [12:16] <Andreasb> err
#2326 [12:16] <Andreasb> I ment build
#2327 [12:16] <Andreasb> Err
#2328 [12:16] <Andreasb> Doesnt vanilla have permissions built in?
#2329 [12:16] <Andreasb> maybe not :P
#2330 [12:16] <RichardG> nope, never did
#2331 [12:16] <RichardG> and never will
#2332 [12:16] <Thrae> RichardG: Are they near spawn?
#2333 [12:16] <Andreasb> isnt default 16 tiles from spawn
#2334 [12:17] <Andreasb> Morrolan: Has to be client->server right?
#2335 [12:17] <Andreasb> so it shows THEIR conenction to the server
#2336 [12:17] <Andreasb> not them to me
#2337 [12:17] <RichardG> Thrae: oh wait, got it now.
#2338 [12:17] <Morrolan> Andreasb: Yea, that's what would make sense, and #risucraft thinks so too.
#2339 [12:17] <Morrolan> It's just interesting that I'm the only one with five bars in that list.
#2340 [12:18] <Andreasb> In my list I have 5 bars, in others I have 4 bars
#2341 [12:19] <vvenaya> hmmpp i wish minecraft was made by a decent company ;(
#2342 [12:20] <Andreasb> Morrolan: The other guy has 4 on me, 5 on him, and 1 on the two others
#2343 [12:21] <TheReddeH> holy update batman!
#2344 [12:21] <Morrolan> Heh, maybe it's just random, Andreasb. :D
#2345 [12:21] <Andreasb> Maybe
#2346 [12:21] <Andreasb> BUT
#2347 [12:21] <Andreasb> im on gigabit
#2348 [12:21] <Andreasb> so my ping should be REALLY good
#2349 [12:21] <Andreasb> can it measure my ping vs theirs
#2350 [12:21] <Andreasb> so since I have alot better conn, they only get 1?
#2351 [12:21] <Andreasb> :P
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#2359 [12:42] <KrozoWrathGod> Hullo everybody!
#2360 [12:43] <KrozoWrathGod> Hey
#2361 [12:43] <KrozoWrathGod> Can anybody help me? I've got...Difficulties running my ruddy server
#2362 [12:44] <KrozoWrathGod> .....on a higher note, Elmer Fudd is a Rapist.
#2363 [12:44] <Thrae> !ops
#2364 [12:44] <KrozoWrathGod> Hullo.
#2365 [12:45] <KrozoWrathGod> .....!ops....?
#2366 [12:45] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: Please keep it civil. Do you actually have a problem?
#2367 [12:45] <KrozoWrathGod> ........yes.......?
#2368 [12:46] <Thrae> Elaborate.
#2369 [12:46] <mysterlune> which is "LoadLibrary failed with error 193, %1 is not a valid Win32 application"...
#2370 [12:46] <KrozoWrathGod> Hullo
#2371 [12:46] <KrozoWrathGod> I am Running a server.
#2372 [12:46] <Thrae> mysterlune: What? Are you getting that in Safe Mode? Sounds like it didn't download properly.
#2373 [12:47] <KrozoWrathGod> Only those inside my house, with my IP, can join
#2374 [12:47] <KrozoWrathGod> which is a problem
#2375 [12:47] <mysterlune> phooey.... sorry... my longer message got deleted.....
#2376 [12:47] <mysterlune> yes.
#2377 [12:47] <mysterlune> in safe mode, i was able to download the .jar files okay.
#2378 [12:47] <mysterlune> then logged into regular windows (it's actually vista, it turns out.... my bad)...
#2379 [12:48] <mysterlune> then i get that LoadLibrary error.... has been happening for a long time....
#2380 [12:48] <KrozoWrathGod> I....was Directed here.
#2381 [12:48] <KrozoWrathGod> By some dudes. They told me to come here.
#2382 [12:49] <mysterlune> i didn't try logging into the game in safe mode (w/networking)... would that be a good next thing to try?
#2383 [12:49] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: You need to setup port forwarding on your router to port forward to your local IP, then give people your external IP. Go to http://www.portforward.com , ignore the ads for paid support, and select your router model and then Minecraft Server.
#2384 [12:49] <Thrae> mysterlune: Yeah I'm guessing the files didn't download properly in safe mode. And/or the security software is still getting in the way.
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#2386 [12:50] <KrozoWrathGod> D: I did that already.
#2387 [12:50] <Thrae> !check KrozoWrathGod
#2388 [12:50] <Thrae> ;ip KrozoWrathGod
#2389 [12:50] <WugBot> IP address of KrozoWrathGod is: 76.221.212.31
#2390 [12:51] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: Is it running right now?
#2391 [12:51] <KrozoWrathGod> I forwarded port 25565, I opened port 25565, and I added port 25565, minecraft server, and minecraft to my firewall exceptions
#2392 [12:51] <KrozoWrathGod> No, it's not on nao
#2393 [12:51] <Thrae> Enable it so AuBot can check.
#2394 [12:52] <mysterlune> Thrae: will check booting into safe mode again, and will try to run the client there.... brb
#2395 [12:52] <KrozoWrathGod> kay
#2396 [12:52] <KrozoWrathGod> kay. On
#2397 [12:52] <Thrae> !check 76.221.212.31
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#2399 [12:53] <KrozoWrathGod> ...do things always look "grim" around here?
#2400 [12:53] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: OK, go to https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and do a custom port probe on 25565. Verify the port is OPEN.
#2401 [12:53] <TheNytangel> KrozoWrathGod, no, just your server, you didn't port forward
#2402 [12:53] <TheNytangel> !check 64.34.163.12:25765
#2403 [12:53] <KrozoWrathGod> ().() WUT.
#2404 [12:53] <Thrae> !check mc.matts-hosting.com:25566
#2405 [12:54] <Thrae> This is a 1.8.1 compatible server by the way, right?
#2406 [12:55] <KrozoWrathGod> Yeah.
#2407 [12:55] <KrozoWrathGod> Results of Probing.
#2408 [12:56] <KrozoWrathGod> Status: Stealth. Protocol and Application: Unkown Protocol for this port.
#2409 [12:56] <KrozoWrathGod> .......Does not sound good.
#2410 [12:57] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: That means the router silently dropped the packet instead of sending it over to your computer. In other words, you're behind a typical NAT firewall on a router without proper port forwarding.
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#2412 [12:57] <KrozoWrathGod> .....And how may I go about Fixing this?!?!
#2413 [12:57] <Thrae> There's always the possibility you have some Security software on your computer not setup properly, too.
#2414 [12:58] <Thrae> Even Windows Firewall needs an exception for java.exe and javaw.exe.
#2415 [12:58] <TheNytangel> Thrae, I'm double NATTED :)
#2416 [12:59] <KrozoWrathGod> Hmmmm....Security Software....Let me check....
#2417 [12:59] <Thrae> TheNytangel: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with NAT, it's a basic part of what makes up the Internet, people just need to learn how to properly port forward and correct their firewalls
#2418 [12:59] <KrozoWrathGod> AVG Anti Virus Software 2011
#2419 [12:59] <Thrae> I used to do double-NAT on my wireless before I figured out how to switch it to bridge
#2420 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Beforeless wire.
#2421 [12:59] <KrozoWrathGod> Free Edition.
#2422 [13:00] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: What version of Windows?
#2423 [13:00] <KrozoWrathGod> You mentioned Firewall needs and exception for java.exe and javaw.exe? where may i find those?
#2424 [13:00] <KrozoWrathGod> Ah, I have Windows XP.
#2425 [13:01] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: http://portforward.com/english/routers/firewalling/Microsoft/WindowsXPFirewallFirewall/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#2428 [13:03] <KrozoWrathGod> Okay, I opened 25565 for UDP.
#2429 [13:03] <TheNytangel> KrozoWrathGod, TCP, not UDP
#2430 [13:03] <KrozoWrathGod> I already have TCP opened
#2431 [13:04] <zjn> I have a weird problem with the minecraft client
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#2433 [13:04] <TheNytangel> ??> KrozoWrathGod smp/port
#2434 [13:04] <VoxelHead> KrozoWrathGod: (smp/port) TCP port 25565
#2435 [13:04] <KrozoWrathGod> .....?
#2436 [13:04] <zjn> last night the client worked just fine, and this morning it won't even open
#2437 [13:05] <KrozoWrathGod> zjn. May I make a suggestion?
#2438 [13:05] <TFG_Aeris> Strange.
#2439 [13:05] <TFG_Aeris> I have a tail.
#2440 [13:05] <TFG_Aeris> And it's soaking wet.
#2441 [13:06] <KrozoWrathGod> :D
#2442 [13:06] <KrozoWrathGod> Creepy.
#2443 [13:06] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2444 [13:06] <zjn> sure
#2445 [13:06] <TFG_Aeris> Quit.
#2446 [13:06] <TFG_Aeris> *Quite
#2447 [13:06] <zjn> that's why I am here
#2448 [13:06] <TFG_Aeris> Plus wrong channel, but eh, better here than...
#2449 [13:06] <KrozoWrathGod> Okay. zjn, this happened to me once, however, it is quite simple to fix.
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#2451 [13:07] <KrozoWrathGod> Simply Backup all your valuable texturepacks, worlds, etc.
#2452 [13:07] <KrozoWrathGod> and go into .minecraft and delete the bin folder ONLY.
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#2454 [13:07] <zjn> did that before
#2455 [13:07] <zjn> didn't help
#2456 [13:07] <KrozoWrathGod> then restart minecraft, and it will re-install....
#2457 [13:07] <KrozoWrathGod> Oh.
#2458 [13:07] <KrozoWrathGod> Hm.
#2459 [13:07] <zjn> minecraft won't even start
#2460 [13:08] <Thrae> zjn: Does the browser version work?
#2461 [13:08] <KrozoWrathGod> What you also could do, is just delete the entire .minecraft folder, Backing up your files first, and then re-download it.
#2462 [13:09] <ferdinand> hello i need help
#2463 [13:09] <zjn> I just tried that too. The newly downloaded .exe won't start either
#2464 [13:09] <zjn> the browser version doesn't seem to work either
#2465 [13:09] <KrozoWrathGod> Is the minecraft application in your list of firewall exceptions
#2466 [13:09] <zjn> yes
#2467 [13:10] <KrozoWrathGod> Hm.
#2468 [13:10] <zjn> it happens in a weird cycle
#2469 [13:10] <zjn> it will work for a while
#2470 [13:10] <zjn> then stop working altogether
#2471 [13:10] <KrozoWrathGod> *streches* I think i'll leave these to the proffesionals.
#2472 [13:10] <zjn> and maybe start working again after a couple weeks
#2473 [13:10] <KrozoWrathGod> *This
#2474 [13:11] <zjn> so who here is a professional?
#2475 [13:11] <Thrae> zjn: Are you running any sort of Internet protection / security software? And/or firewalls?
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#2477 [13:11] <KrozoWrathGod> *shrugs*
#2478 [13:11] <Thrae> We're all professionally volunteers.
#2479 [13:11] <zjn> firewall
#2480 [13:11] <KrozoWrathGod> SWEET.
#2481 [13:11] <Thrae> zjn: Disable it
#2482 [13:11] <VoxelHead> SWEEEEEEET.
#2483 [13:11] <KrozoWrathGod> SWEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHTTTTT
#2484 [13:11] <KrozoWrathGod> *vomits*
#2485 [13:12] <TheNytangel> KrozoWrathGod...
#2486 [13:12] <KrozoWrathGod> Sorry i went a little overboard.
#2487 [13:12] <Brascon> hey, can some1 give me directions on setting up a server for MC?
#2488 [13:12] <zjn> ok
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#2490 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> Brascon smp/serversetup
#2491 [13:12] <VoxelHead> Brascon: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2492 [13:12] <VoxelHead> Brascon: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2493 [13:12] <Brascon> ty =)
#2494 [13:13] <Thrae> ??> zjn dont/pm
#2495 [13:13] <VoxelHead> zjn: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#2497 [13:13] <TheNytangel> ?? 1.8
#2498 [13:13] <VoxelHead> 1.8: 1.8 has been officially released.
#2499 [13:13] <KrozoWrathGod> What do you guys think I should do?
#2500 [13:14] <zjn> I pmed Thrae because I was saying something I didn't want to tell the whole room in case there is a hacker lurking
#2501 [13:14] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2502 [13:15] <zjn> anyway; what next?
#2503 [13:15] <Thrae> zjn: Well I'm only half-here, so PM'ing me won't be effective. And the idea was to try Minecraft, if it still doesn't work, reverse what you just did.
#2504 [13:15] <zjn> ok
#2505 [13:16] <KrozoWrathGod> Am....am I shopped liver?
#2506 [13:16] <KrozoWrathGod> Serve me on Crackers.
#2507 [13:17] <KrozoWrathGod> Can someone help me?
#2508 [13:18] <Thrae> KrozoWrathGod: You're welcome to wait and see if anyone will help you through something like TeamViewer. People may be put off by your horsing around, so you may need patience.
#2509 [13:18] <KrozoWrathGod> Kay.
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#2511 [13:21] <ferdinand> i need help
#2512 [13:21] <ferdinand> plz
#2513 [13:21] <zjn> it didn't work. the client still wouldn't start
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#2515 [13:22] <Thrae> zjn: OK, go to Programs and Features or Add/Remove Programs and remove all traces of Java. Then go to http://www.java.com/en/download/ and reinstall Java.
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#2517 [13:23] <mysterlune> hi again. i booted to safe mode (w/networking) again to start minecraft client (to see if it could load without the windows security stuff being a constraint).... got an error in the client about not being able to find an accellerated OpenGL driver for the graphics card.
#2518 [13:23] <zjn> ok
#2519 [13:24] <Thrae> mysterlune: Yeah that's because Safe Mode doesn't load graphics drivers. But at least it seems it got a little further....I think.
#2520 [13:24] <mysterlune> of course, in safe mode it's probably not going to access the third party driver for the graphics card... i'm not getting this same error in the regular windows startup.
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#2522 [13:26] <Kottorp> Tjabba! Finns det n�got att g�ra �t problem med att minnet tar slut och spelet avslutas?
#2523 [13:26] <mysterlune> it did get farther... but the root issue is this weird "LoadLibrary failed with error 193..." message saying "%1 is not a valid Win32 application"... i'm totally stumped...
#2524 [13:27] <Thrae> mysterlune: I still think something on that computer is messing it up. Want to go back to square one?
#2525 [13:27] <Thrae> ??> mysterlune win/reinst/bat
#2526 [13:27] <VoxelHead> mysterlune: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2527 [13:27] <VoxelHead> mysterlune: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2528 [13:27] <Thrae> Kottorp: English only.
#2529 [13:28] <mysterlune> thx re: win/reinst/bat... will check it out...
#2530 [13:28] <Kottorp> Haha, my bad ;) I just keep running out of memory and the game shuts down... Anything i can do?
#2531 [13:28] <VoxelHead> dont "touch" anything or i'll melt your face off or something
#2532 [13:29] <Thrae> Kottorp: You can tell Java to allocate more memory. Using Windows?
#2533 [13:29] <Kottorp> Yee, windows 7 64bits
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#2535 [13:30] <Thrae> Kottorp: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat <-- place in the same folder as Minecraft.exe and use the batch file instead. It'll launch 64-bit Java with up to 2GB.
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#2537 [13:30] <mysterlune> Voxelhead: ran the .bat file, and got "Cannot fins specified file..." error... wound up with "Press any key to continue..." message, so it seems the script completed... not sure if it did what it was supposed to do...
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#2540 [13:31] <mysterlune> is this just to remove the .minecraft/bin folder et al?...
#2541 [13:31] <zjn> that didn't work either
#2542 [13:31] <SkyMage420> anyone can tell me why our server suddenly filled with zombies and grinded to halt?
#2543 [13:31] <Thrae> mysterlune: It's OK if it doesn't find all the folders -- some are created the first time you successfully play the game.
#2544 [13:31] <mysterlune> i've definitely been through all the basics. not noob by any stretch of the imagination.... just can't compete with windows .net errors...
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#2546 [13:31] <mysterlune> okay.. will try to launch.
#2547 [13:32] <Thrae> mysterlune: Minecraft doesn't use .NET. That's Microsoft technology and Minecraft is cross-platform through Java and OpenGL.
#2548 [13:32] <SkyMage420> is there a way to wipe my world of all existing monsters so we can play? its like an ocean of zombies, 0.1 fps
#2549 [13:32] <mysterlune> yeah. just all the stuff i was finding on LoadLibrary errors points to C# code....
#2550 [13:32] <unlikely> Go peaceful..?
#2551 [13:33] <SkyMage420> how would i do that?
#2552 [13:33] <zjn> does anyone have any other ideas?
#2553 [13:33] <unlikely> It's in the settings somewhere.
#2554 [13:33] <mysterlune> okay... looks like i need to go back into safe mode to redownload all the packages.... back in a bit....
#2555 [13:33] <Thrae> SkyMage420: Some custom servers have the /butcher command, but as for vanilla, shut down the server, open the world in MCEdit, delete the Zombie entities
#2556 [13:33] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
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#2558 [13:33] <SkyMage420> MDEdit. hadn't heard of that. Thank you :)
#2559 [13:33] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2560 [13:34] <mib_6cbily> need help with mincraft crashes after loading game i have a cooler master computer and has one gb of ram i know its terrrible and 2.21 GHz and a AMD Athlon 64 processer 3700+ plz help
#2561 [13:34] <Drezi> !check 63.223.107.103
#2562 [13:34] <Thrae> mib_6cbily: Windows?
#2563 [13:34] <Drezi> :)
#2564 [13:34] <mib_6cbily> yes
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#2566 [13:35] <Thrae> ??> mib_6cbily win/dxdiag
#2567 [13:35] <VoxelHead> mib_6cbily: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2568 [13:35] <VoxelHead> mib_6cbily: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2569 [13:35] <mib_6cbily> rly thats it/
#2570 [13:36] <mib_6cbily> hello?
#2571 [13:37] <Thrae> mib_6cbily: We need that information to help you further.
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#2573 [13:37] <mib_6cbily> k
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#2575 [13:40] <Ph0ENIX9119> VoxelHead youre always here, do you even get to play anymore?
#2576 [13:40] <VoxelHead> if i tell you, i will have to kill you
#2577 [13:40] <Ph0ENIX9119> lol like most admins
#2578 [13:40] <Fox_> can someone help with a server? i can connect on 127.0.0.1 only
#2579 [13:40] <Ph0ENIX9119> i didnt think so
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#2581 [13:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> Fox_ check the firewall settings on the server
#2582 [13:41] <Fox_> what ports?
#2583 [13:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> and dont try to run the server and client on the same machine
#2584 [13:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> i think 25565 is default?
#2585 [13:41] <Fox_> aw damn
#2586 [13:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> VoxelHead can confirm
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#2588 [13:42] <Coll> I can run the server and the client on my desktop
#2589 [13:42] <Coll> runs quite comfortably
#2590 [13:42] <Ph0ENIX9119> well fox what are the specs on the computer?
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#2592 [13:42] <Fox_> dual core 2.5 4GB ram
#2593 [13:42] * Thrae is now AFK.
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#2594 [13:43] <Ph0ENIX9119> i dunno if a duel core would handle it
#2595 [13:43] <Ph0ENIX9119> and only 4gb ram
#2596 [13:43] <Coll> im using a quad it runs fine with 4gigs
#2597 [13:43] <Coll> I would say try it
#2598 [13:43] <Fox_> lol it runs a little odd
#2599 [13:44] <Coll> and maybe seperate the two processes on each core
#2600 [13:44] <Ph0ENIX9119> maybe
#2601 [13:44] <Ph0ENIX9119> thats not alot of processor
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#2603 [13:44] <Fox_> but friend wanted to join me and her machine is crap
#2604 [13:44] <guest-758427-01747> Can someone help me out?
#2605 [13:45] <Ph0ENIX9119> Fox_ my advise would be to fine a quiet multiplayer server, and have her join
#2606 [13:45] <SkyMage420> alright thanks again for the tip about MCedit. have a good weekend!
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#2608 [13:45] <Fox_> true might be better, or get one at friend office....
#2609 [13:45] <guest-758427-01747> Can someone help me with my FPS problem, i want to increase my FPS, but in some random way i only have 6 Fps :S
#2610 [13:45] <Fox_> thanks :)
#2611 [13:46] <guest-758427-01747> Please someone help me :/
#2612 [13:47] <Ph0ENIX9119> try a better computer?
#2613 [13:47] <guest-758427-01747> dude
#2614 [13:48] <guest-758427-01747> i just bought this computer, and i can run all other games perfectly
#2615 [13:48] <Coll> what deus ex?
#2616 [13:48] <guest-758427-01747> i have better specs than my Mate besite me and my bro, way better spec but i have 5 Fps and they have 120 i don't get it
#2617 [13:48] <Coll> system shock 2?
#2618 [13:49] <Ph0ENIX9119> update java and drivers
#2619 [13:49] <Ph0ENIX9119> exit all other programs
#2620 [13:50] <Ph0ENIX9119> run a full system scan
#2621 [13:50] <guest-758427-01747> .. i dont have other games open
#2622 [13:50] <guest-758427-01747> But in some way my comp aint providing enough Ram into Minecraft
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#2624 [13:52] <Coll> how about actual specs
#2625 [13:52] <Coll> instead of "oo I got good specs"
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#2631 [13:55] <VoxelHead> Master?
#2632 [13:55] <guest-758427-21492> SERIOUSLY HELP ME!
#2633 [13:55] <bernard3> hey guys
#2634 [13:56] <bernard3> im back voxel
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#2636 [13:56] <bernard3> hey voxel it sas not enough pixels what i do?
#2637 [13:57] <dude> Some one fucking help me, does no one know how to Increase the FPs in Minecraft :S
#2638 [13:57] * AuBot kicked dude from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ude :Please keep it civil.)
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#2640 [13:57] <bernard3> l0l
#2641 [13:57] <dude> Seriously someone help me man!
#2642 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> dude attitude
#2643 [13:57] <VoxelHead> dude: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2644 [13:58] <VoxelHead> dude: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2645 [13:58] <Ryladine> voxel is a bot...
#2646 [13:58] <VoxelHead> LIES.
#2647 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> Ryladine: it is user-controllable
#2648 [13:58] <Coll> guest or dude
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#2650 [13:58] <Coll> who ever the hell
#2651 [13:58] <Ryladine> True, but it's still a bit.
#2652 [13:58] <Coll> give us details
#2653 [13:58] <Ryladine> bot*
#2654 [13:58] <Coll> or shut up
#2655 [13:58] <dude> Im sorry, but seriously its anoying me that i can't play Minecraft when i just bought a new Laptop yesterday :S
#2656 [13:59] <Coll> asking for help doesnt help any of us figure out your problem
#2657 [13:59] <Coll> we need details information
#2658 [13:59] <Coll> to narrow down a solution for you
#2659 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> Coll: you need to specify what kind
#2660 [13:59] <dude> Okay, I have way to low FPS how do i increase my FPS?
#2661 [13:59] <rainbowtree> Hi, I have a question about not being able to log in to minecraft within the game?
#2662 [13:59] <Ryladine> Dude: Your problem is probably the laptop, did you consider the graphics requirements and RAM requirements of minecraft when you bought it?
#2663 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> dude: what laptop did you buy?
#2664 [13:59] <dude> Packard Bell
#2665 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> rainbowtree: any antivirus/firewall?
#2666 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> dude: we need the exact model
#2667 [13:59] <dude> sec
#2668 [14:00] <dude> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/unavngivetvm.png/
#2669 [14:00] <dude> this should make it all clear
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#2671 [14:01] <dude> im using like 80MB out of 980 in minecraft its like 8% on it
#2672 [14:01] <dude> gives me 6 FpS
#2673 [14:01] <dude> my mate right bestie me is using 250MB out of 980 and he have 120 FPS
#2674 [14:01] * mib_wzm6ze [mib_wzm6ze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2675 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> hanf on
#2676 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> *hang on
#2677 [14:01] <mib_wzm6ze> hi
#2678 [14:02] <bernard3> hey dude ur back
#2679 [14:02] <mib_wzm6ze> any1 here can help me?
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#2681 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> ?? ask
#2682 [14:02] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2683 [14:02] <bernard3> f u voxel :D
#2684 [14:02] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2685 [14:02] <bernard3> l0l
#2686 [14:02] <bernard3> L0L
#2687 [14:02] <Ryladine> Mib: I can, but I will have to ask you to set a name with the /nick command.
#2688 [14:02] <TheNytangel> bernard3...
#2689 [14:02] <dude> anyone there can figure out my problem?
#2690 [14:02] <mib_wzm6ze> when i try to download minecraft my anti virus stops it as a virus
#2691 [14:02] <bernard3> yo?
#2692 [14:03] <Ryladine> mib: temporarilly disable it then.
#2693 [14:03] <Coll> na
#2694 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> !kb bernard3
#2695 [14:03] * GreyBot kicked bernard3 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ernard3 :<Kicks:827>)
#2696 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> dude: what id your minecraft settings?
#2697 [14:03] <Coll> that is not a solution
#2698 [14:03] <Coll> mib
#2699 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> Ryladine: before that
#2700 [14:03] <dude> what do you mean?
#2701 [14:03] <Coll> make a exception in your antivirus
#2702 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> mib_wzm6ze: did you download it from minecraft.net?
#2703 [14:03] <Coll> also grey why was he banned?
#2704 [14:03] <dude> i should be able to have every single Settings in minecraft with my specs
#2705 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> He's been coming back regularly, to antagonize ops
#2706 [14:03] <Ryladine> Tyteen: true, I suppose I should have asked that.
#2707 [14:04] <mib_wzm6ze> but what happens when i download it install it and put my antivirus back wont that stop the game?
#2708 [14:04] <TheNytangel> A lot of people do..
#2709 [14:04] <mib_wzm6ze> yes i paid for the game
#2710 [14:04] <mib_wzm6ze> but cant play it
#2711 [14:04] <dude> Anyone there can see my problem i don't get why i have that Low FPS?
#2712 [14:04] <Ryladine> mib: Answer tyteen please, did you download minecraft from minecraft.net?
#2713 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> dude - What are your computer's specs? What video card are you running?
#2714 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> gREY: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Packard-Bell-EasyNote-TS11HR-012GE.60268.0.html
#2715 [14:05] <dude> Nvidia Geforce GT 540M Cuda 1GB
#2716 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> if I was not in the middle of something I would have been faster, sorry
#2717 [14:05] <dude> thats my Graphic Card
#2718 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> but you said you are using this:P http://www.notebookcheck.net/Packard-Bell-EasyNote-TS11HR-012GE.60268.0.html
#2719 [14:06] <dude> Its a brand new Model from Packard Bell, and i payed a lot of it, so i should be able to play Minecraft..
#2720 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're running an nvidia card, not the intel integrated one?
#2721 [14:06] <dude> yes
#2722 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> dude - Give us a dxdiag
#2723 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> dude win/dxdiag
#2724 [14:06] <VoxelHead> dude: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2725 [14:06] <VoxelHead> dude: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2726 [14:06] * GreyVulpine wants to see if he's running a laptop with Optimus
#2726 [14:07] <dude> what youw ant to know?
#2727 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what nvidia's Optimus system is?
#2728 [14:07] <dude> Yes i do
#2729 [14:07] <dude> the Control Panell i got for Nvidia
#2730 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you running a system with it?
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#2732 [14:08] <dude> nope?
#2733 [14:08] <dude> i have not done anything i just odwnloaded it and League of Legends thats what i got on my computer
#2734 [14:08] <dude> i bought it yesterday
#2735 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> You just said your control panel has it.
#2736 [14:08] <dude> my Control Panel has what?
#2737 [14:08] <dude> i have not done anything
#2738 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Do you know what nvidia's Optimus system is?
#2739 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> <dude> the Control Panell i got for Nvidia
#2740 [14:09] <dude> Okay i dont know it then
#2741 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Then give us a dxdiag, I want to check.
#2742 [14:09] <dude> oaky
#2743 [14:09] <dude> how do i upload?
#2744 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#2745 [14:09] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2746 [14:09] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2747 [14:11] <dude> can you see thsi?
#2748 [14:11] <dude> file:///C:/Users/AndreasD/Desktop/DxDiag.txt
#2749 [14:11] <dude> wups wrong
#2750 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> We cannot
#2751 [14:11] <dude> http://pastebin.com/LdnECFpG
#2752 [14:11] <dude> here
#2753 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> That's not the full dxdiag, you're missing the lower half
#2754 [14:13] <dude> http://pastebin.com/xCgEx048
#2755 [14:13] <dude> here is it all
#2756 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you're definitely running a system with Optimus.
#2757 [14:14] <dude> ?
#2758 [14:14] <dude> is that bad?
#2759 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> The thing is with Optimus, is that you actually have two graphics cards in your system. An intel-integrated chipset for low-powered operations, and a full-fledged dedicated graphics card for when you need more video computing power. The reason why you're having so low of a framerate, is that java is set up to use the low-powered intel chipset for graphics, instead of your gaming nvidia
#2760 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> card.
#2761 [14:14] <dude> ohhh
#2762 [14:15] <dude> how do i change that? :O
#2763 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> One sec...
#2764 [14:15] * mib_dtqsl0 [mib_dtqsl0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2765 [14:15] <dude> k
#2766 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2767 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> This should be a good walkthrough for you.
#2768 [14:15] <mib_dtqsl0> hi
#2769 [14:16] <dude> hmm
#2770 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> The long and short of it, you need to set up optimus, add an exception for java to be run off your faster nvidia graphics card
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#2772 [14:18] <darkace> im havin trouble downloadin (and runnin) minecraft on my comp... can someone help?
#2773 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Can you elaborate further? What kind of trouble exactly?
#2774 [14:18] <dude> i hope i can find out this
#2775 [14:19] <Helpme> Greyvulpine
#2776 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#2778 [14:19] <Helpme> Ive purchased minecraft and played on it Yesterday, but today I cant. Whys this?
#2779 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Helpme - What happens when you try?
#2780 [14:20] <Helpme> It says my account is not premium
#2781 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net?
#2782 [14:20] <Helpme> Yea
#2783 [14:20] <Helpme> I have the bank statement to prove it
#2784 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Then make absolutely sure you're using the right user account
#2785 [14:21] <Helpme> I am
#2786 [14:21] <darkace> well i go to download on for windows and i click run, and run (for the little box that pops up) i wait a while adn nothin happens
#2787 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all the emails you normally use
#2788 [14:21] <Helpme> I HAVE
#2789 [14:21] <Helpme> 5 TIMES
#2790 [14:21] <VoxelHead> wowsers
#2791 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't believe the number of people that log in with different accounts.
#2792 [14:22] <darkace> what do ya think of my problem?
#2793 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Got java installed?
#2794 [14:22] <Helpme> Yep
#2795 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Try verifying your java installation at:
#2796 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> darkace java/version
#2797 [14:22] <darkace> im not 100% sure... i should
#2798 [14:22] <VoxelHead> darkace: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2799 [14:22] <VoxelHead> darkace: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2800 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Helpme - Was the charge reversed for any reason on your end?
#2801 [14:23] <Helpme> ...? What
#2802 [14:23] <Helpme> Im only 12
#2803 [14:23] <Helpme> My mom bought it
#2804 [14:23] <Coll> and what is this?
#2805 [14:23] <darkace> Version 6 Update 22 so it seems
#2806 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Helpme - Did your mom stop payment on it, or do a chargeback on the account, reversing the payment?
#2807 [14:23] <Helpme> No
#2808 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> darkace - That's the most recent version, yeah
#2809 [14:23] <Helpme> I try loging in 1 moire time
#2810 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Try http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2811 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> darkace - It'll launch minecraft in a command prompt window, let us know if you get any errors there
#2812 [14:24] <darkace> k, thanks
#2813 [14:24] <darkace> i will try
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#2815 [14:26] * neersighted is away: neerAFK: Can't find teh keyboard! XD
#2815 [14:26] <VoxelHead> cya
#2816 [14:26] <guest-758427-22666> Grey are you still here?
#2817 [14:26] <darkace> step 3,6,8,11, and 15 are blank... are they supposed to be blank?
#2818 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Yes
#2819 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Yes
#2820 [14:26] <Dude> OKay i did it, but it aint working
#2821 [14:27] <Dude> dont know if i did anything wrong
#2822 [14:27] <Helpme> Okay, I just got my Password
#2823 [14:27] * neersighted is away: neerAFK: Can't find teh keyboard! XD
#2823 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Did you add Java itself to the Optimus list?
#2824 [14:27] <Dude> yes?
#2825 [14:27] <Dude> Java.exe
#2826 [14:28] <Dude> and took the NVIDIA- Processor at the Provider
#2827 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Needs to be javaw
#2828 [14:28] <Dude> arh k
#2829 [14:28] <Helpme> Okay
#2830 [14:28] <Helpme> I got my name wromg
#2831 [14:29] <Dude> i did that now
#2832 [14:29] * mib_crn5ce [mib_crn5ce@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2833 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Then try minecraft again
#2834 [14:29] <Dude> YYYYYES
#2835 [14:29] <mib_crn5ce> Hey Guys I've Got major Lag, any suggestions?
#2836 [14:29] <Helpme> I GOT MY NAME WRONG XD
#2837 [14:29] <Dude> THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN ;D
#2838 [14:29] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2838 [14:29] <Dude> FInally no more lag!"
#2839 [14:29] <Dude> HIGH FPS!
#2840 [14:30] <mib_crn5ce> ?
#2841 [14:30] <Helpme> I typed iiR34PxZ but my name is iiR43PxZ
#2842 [14:30] <Helpme> :D
#2843 [14:30] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2844 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_crn5ce - What type of lag?
#2845 [14:30] <Helpme> Thanks grey
#2846 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Sure ting
#2847 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> thing*
#2848 [14:30] <mib_crn5ce> Just generallag. Whenever i look out at the world it justs LAGS
#2849 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_crn5ce - Happens in single player? Multiplayer?
#2850 [14:30] <mib_crn5ce> single
#2851 [14:30] <Dude> damn man its bad
#2852 [14:30] <Dude> only 53 Fps ;S
#2853 [14:31] <VoxelHead> that's quite a lot
#2854 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Have you pulled up the F3 view, and looked at FPS? What is the number there?
#2855 [14:31] <mib_crn5ce> hold on
#2856 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Dude - That's still respectable for a laptop
#2857 [14:31] <Dude> No its not!
#2858 [14:31] <Dude> i have way better specs than my mate right besite me, and he have 120 :S
#2859 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> May want to look up video card drivers as well
#2860 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Could help.
#2861 [14:31] <Dude> how?
#2862 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> nvidia.com --> download drivers
#2863 [14:32] <mib_crn5ce> ok spiky thing is red wth
#2864 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_crn5ce - Can you see the "FPS" heading?
#2865 [14:33] <mib_crn5ce> 6
#2866 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> That would be why, your video card may not be up to snuff to run minecraft smoothly
#2867 [14:33] <Dude> Grey
#2868 [14:33] <Dude> is this right http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver-uk.html
#2869 [14:33] <Dude> ?
#2870 [14:34] <mib_crn5ce> intel hd graphics card
#2871 [14:34] <Dude> i have no clue if thats a Driver for that o.o
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#2873 [14:34] <willbo360> hey i need help. i bought minecraft and when i open it and try to login it says "can't connect to minecraft.net" that would usually be fine but the "play offline" button is unclickable and says (not downloaded) PLEEEEASE HELP, SMART PEOPLE!
#2874 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Looks right to me
#2875 [14:34] <Dude> hmm
#2876 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> willbo360 - Operating system?
#2877 [14:34] <willbo360> windows 7
#2878 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Does your Windows username happen to have a ! mark in it?
#2879 [14:35] <willbo360> uhhhh... wait ill check'
#2880 [14:35] <mib_crn5ce> Grey im using brand new intel pentium
#2881 [14:35] <willbo360> it just says "user"
#2882 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> willbo360 - You sure about that?
#2883 [14:36] <willbo360> oooh colors...
#2884 [14:36] <willbo360> yeah ill check some more though
#2885 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_crn5ce - That.. doesn't tell me much
#2886 [14:36] <mib_crn5ce> it says 2.13GHz 3mb l3 cache
#2887 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag mib_crn5ce
#2888 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_crn5ce win/dxdiag
#2889 [14:37] <VoxelHead> mib_crn5ce: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2890 [14:37] <VoxelHead> mib_crn5ce: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2891 [14:37] <willbo360> idk i cant find a name anywhere. just "user"
#2892 [14:37] <willbo360> :(
#2893 [14:37] * VoxelHead starts shuffling cards
#2893 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> willbo360 - Pull up your C:\ drive. Go to the Users folder. Are any foldernames there contain a ! mark in it?
#2894 [14:38] <willbo360> Willbo360- starts yelling at notch+bill gates.
#2895 [14:39] <mib_crn5ce> lol
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#2897 [14:40] <willbo360> i have a (C:) drive but it doesnt have a user folder...
#2898 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> You're running windows 7?
#2899 [14:40] <willbo360> yeah
#2900 [14:40] <malarkey> I have a mac login error question if anyone thinks they might have an answer
#2901 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> There.. should be a users folder
#2902 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> malarkey - Login failed?
#2903 [14:41] <malarkey> yeah, and my login and password are correct
#2904 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> malarkey - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2905 [14:41] <willbo360> oh wow i was actually IN the user folder, THATS why i couldnt find it (facepalm)
#2906 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> launcher was updated with the 1.8 release
#2907 [14:41] * checkeredknight [checkeredknight@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2908 [14:41] <malarkey> sweet, had no idea there was an update
#2909 [14:42] <malarkey> haven't played in over a month
#2910 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only one, heh.
#2911 [14:42] <checkeredknight> Is anyone else getting a "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" error?
#2912 [14:42] <willbo360> YEAH!!!!!!!
#2913 [14:42] * GreyVulpine checks
#2913 [14:42] <VoxelHead> Heavy.
#2914 [14:42] <malarkey> thanks and peace
#2915 [14:42] <willbo360> also it says it wasnt downloaded
#2916 [14:42] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2916 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Launcher works for me.
#2917 [14:43] <willbo360> checkeredknight- were in this together. gotta figure it out
#2918 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> willbo360 - The launcher is just that, the launcher. It contains no actual game files.
#2919 [14:43] <checkeredknight> You and me both mate. I bought it today and I can play online with my old computer but for some reason with this PC I keep getting "Can't connect to Minecraft.net"
#2920 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> It only downloads the game files upon a successful login of a premium account
#2921 [14:43] <willbo360> what if im logged in somewhere ELSE also?
#2922 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't matter
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#2924 [14:44] <checkeredknight> Yeah; I copied the .minecraft files from my old computer to this one and I can now play offline. I can't use my account to log in online though and I really want to play this with my partner. :(
#2925 [14:44] <zippe> anyone out there?
#2926 [14:44] <willbo360> oh well it has all the login-ed stuff. it says download, play online. no more BUY button. then... i click download
#2927 [14:44] <willbo360> wait gtg... :(
#2928 [14:45] <checkeredknight> Willbo, are you able to play it through your browser?
#2929 [14:45] <willbo360> :'(
#2930 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> The three most common causes of "Can't connect to minecraft.net" are, ! in the windowsusername, system time/date out of sync, or security software/firewall blocking java
#2931 [14:45] * guest-758427-81390 [guest-758427-81390@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2932 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Or you pirated minecraft in the past... but we won't get into that
#2933 [14:45] <guest-758427-81390> GREY!?
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#2935 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2936 [14:45] <Dude> OMG
#2937 [14:45] <Dude> I did the Driver Update right
#2938 [14:45] <Dude> BUT THEN
#2939 [14:45] <Dude> I restartet my computer cause it told me to
#2940 [14:45] <Dude> and now i can't see my Graphic Card anymore :S
#2941 [14:45] <Dude> my Nvidia Gaming Card
#2942 [14:46] <Dude> its gone!
#2943 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#2944 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean it's gone?
#2945 [14:46] <Dude> sec
#2946 [14:46] <Dude> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/unavngivetdq.png/
#2947 [14:46] <Dude> see
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#2949 [14:47] <Dude> the only Graphic card there is now is the Intel HD SCreen card
#2950 [14:47] <checkeredknight> Honestly I did pirate it in the past. I bought it today because I like what I tried. Guess it's my own fault then. Cheers anyway.
#2951 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - We can fix that
#2952 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - Give me a copy of your hosts file.
#2953 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> checkeredknight win/hosts
#2954 [14:48] <VoxelHead> checkeredknight: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2955 [14:48] <VoxelHead> checkeredknight: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2956 [14:48] <Dude> wtf shall i do now? :'(
#2957 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Hmm, Do you get the nvidia control panel when you right click on the desktop?
#2958 [14:48] <Dude> nope :/
#2959 [14:48] <checkeredknight> Sure, one second, thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it!
#2960 [14:48] <zippe> excuse me
#2961 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Reinstall those drivers again
#2962 [14:48] <zippe> is there anyone out there who can help me?
#2963 [14:49] <Dude> how?
#2964 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> zippe - Don't just ask to ask, just tell us what your problem/question is
#2965 [14:49] <zippe> ok
#2966 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Dude - Run the installer again?
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#2968 [14:49] <zippe> my problem is: every time I open a certain world, minecraft crashes
#2969 [14:49] <Dude> of the Driver i just installed?
#2970 [14:50] <zippe> all other worlds work fine.
#2971 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> zippe - Probably corrupt world
#2972 [14:50] <zippe> what does that mean?
#2973 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Did you perhaps use any mods with that particular world?
#2974 [14:50] * checkeredknight [checkeredknight@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2975 [14:50] <zippe> no I didn't
#2976 [14:50] <checkeredknight> Huh, I tried paste-binning and lost my connection. =X
#2977 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> zippe - Try opening the world in a map editor like MCedit, resave it immediately after. Will sometimes fix map corruption issues
#2978 [14:51] <zippe> I've tried playing in browser as well
#2979 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Dude - yes
#2980 [14:51] <Dude> k
#2981 [14:51] <zippe> and when I first tried it worked briefly before crashing
#2982 [14:51] <zippe> and all further attempts resulted in immediate crashes
#2983 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> World corruption is not an uncommon issue.
#2984 [14:51] <checkeredknight> Basically all that's in my hosts file is a load of SpyBoy rules anyway. That's it. =X
#2985 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - Nothing pertaining to minecraft.net at all?
#2986 [14:52] <zippe> is there a way to recover the world?
#2987 [14:52] <checkeredknight> Nothing at all. I even tried deleting the hosts file earlier. No luck. =(
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#2989 [14:52] <zippe> i have a sweet castle in that one
#2990 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark in it? Is your windows system's time/date correct? Are you running any security software or firewall?
#2991 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> zippe - Try opening the world in a map editor like MCedit, resave it immediately after. Will sometimes fix map corruption issues
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#2993 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#2994 [14:53] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#2995 [14:54] <checkeredknight> My username does not, the date / time is correct and I do have Comodo Firewall and ESET Anti-virus running (though I've made exceptions with both.) It doesn't seem like either are blocking minecraft.exe anyway, from what I can tell.
#2996 [14:54] <checkeredknight> BRB
#2997 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Comodo has been known to cause this problem in the past
#2998 [14:54] <checkeredknight> It could be that then... =X
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#3000 [14:54] <malarkey> Now that I've got the 1.8 update on my mac i'm getting a black screen when I try to load a world
#3001 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> If I remember correctly, the person before, had to uninstall comodo, he couldn't figure out how to set it up to let java through
#3002 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Also, I'm running Eset AV on 3 computers, no problems with that particular software here.
#3003 [14:58] <darkace> im still havin problems... =/
#3004 [14:59] <malarkey> I'm getting a black screen when I try and load a world
#3005 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Did you get anything in the command prompt window?
#3006 [15:00] <darkace> well i tried to do it the way that thing told me to, but it confused me and my parents...
#3007 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> malarkey - Does it black screen on any new worlds?
#3008 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> darkace - What didn't you understand?
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#3010 [15:01] <malarkey> yep
#3011 [15:01] <malarkey> i'll try creating a third one, but it's giving me black on all of them
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#3013 [15:02] <darkace> the 4. (3rd) step
#3014 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> darkace - So you went to http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp -- downloaded minecraft.jar under the linux heading, right?
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#3016 [15:04] <darkace> im tryin, i cant open it but i did save it
#3017 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Alright, where did you save it to?
#3018 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Is it a folder you can readily access easily??
#3019 [15:05] * neersighted is away: neerAFK: Can't find teh keyboard! XD
#3019 [15:05] <darkace> the thing says "executable jar files" or "all files" i went with the first 1
#3020 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> You did save it onto your computer, yes?
#3021 [15:05] <darkace> yea
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#3023 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you know where the file is now?
#3024 [15:05] * Seargent_Buttermuffins [Seargent_Buttermuffins@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3025 [15:06] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> hey, is there a way to play minecraft without an internet connection?
#3026 [15:06] <darkace> kinda... i can opened the file after i saved it
#3027 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Seargent_Buttermuffins - Sure, if you've connected once before, and downloaded the files via the launcher
#3028 [15:06] <darkace> (the folder where the file is)
#3029 [15:06] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> cool
#3030 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Alright. Then, in the same folder where the file is, you can right click in it, Choose New -> text document
#3031 [15:07] <darkace> i dont see that tho, that is the problem
#3032 [15:07] <zippe> hmmm. now I need MCedit installation help
#3033 [15:07] <fenster> i baught minecraft but when i go to login in it just shows me trying but i cant
#3034 [15:07] <zippe> I'm on mac osx 10.4
#3035 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> darkace - What do you see when you right click inside the folder?
#3036 [15:08] <zippe> I got numpy and python per instructions
#3037 [15:08] <zippe> and downloaded mc edit for <10.6 mac osx
#3038 [15:08] <fenster> can anyone help me with something
#3039 [15:08] <zippe> extracted it aaaand
#3040 [15:08] <zippe> got a readme a bunch of program files
#3041 [15:08] <zippe> no application
#3042 [15:09] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> cool!~
#3043 [15:09] <darkace> ok, i found it... ( i was clickin wrong thing...(a few folders in there... i gotta to remember to delete them)
#3044 [15:09] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> thanx
#3045 [15:09] <checkeredknight> I don't think I really want to un-install Comodo, but I'm going to try disabling it and running Minecraft to see what happens. =X
#3046 [15:10] <checkeredknight> Hm, still no luck.
#3047 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - The person that had a problem with comodo disabled it before, but it still didn't solve the issue. Be aware that you may need to uninstall
#3048 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Got the new text file up?
#3049 [15:11] <darkace> yes
#3050 [15:11] <malarkey> Should i uninstall and reinstall to fix the black screen?
#3051 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Now, open the text file, paste in there:
#3052 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3053 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> pause
#3054 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> darkace - As two seperate lines.
#3055 [15:11] <darkace> k
#3056 [15:11] <checkeredknight> That's lame, but it would explain why it isn't connecting. =(
#3057 [15:11] <darkace> i put a seperte line and add puase
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#3059 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> darkace - right
#3060 [15:12] <darkace> right?
#3061 [15:12] <darkace> k
#3062 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> malarkey - You can certainly try.
#3063 [15:12] <glenn> can someone help me please
#3064 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Once you've pasted those two lines in, go up to File -> Save as. You'll want to put a filename.bat
#3065 [15:13] <glenn> i have a problem with my login on minecraft
#3066 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> underneath the filename box, you'll see a file type, switch it from txt file, to all files
#3067 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> glenn - What is the error you get?
#3068 [15:13] <darkace> ok
#3069 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Then save it. Double click on the newly created .bat file you just made to launch minecraft
#3070 [15:14] <glenn> when i go to login it just shows me trying to login for really long
#3071 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> glenn - What error message do you actually get at the end?
#3072 [15:14] <glenn> i dont get a error message it just shows me trying to login
#3073 [15:15] <glenn> its really annoying
#3074 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> glenn - Let it continue to try and log in for a little while, it'll give you an error after a short while
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#3076 [15:15] <MFanatik> can anyone help me? whit error a1dce528
#3077 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Please paste the entire error report to pastebin.com and give us the address to it
#3078 [15:15] <glenn> ok
#3079 [15:16] <MFanatik> i cant
#3080 [15:16] <MFanatik> it crashes
#3081 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Then look at where you have the launcher for a file named hs_err_pid
#3082 [15:16] <MFanatik> it shows me part of it but i cant do anything like select
#3083 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Did you run that .bat file yet?
#3084 [15:17] <glenn> its still trying to login
#3085 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> glenn - Running any security software or firewall on your system?
#3086 [15:18] <darkace> it doesnt seem to be working =(
#3087 [15:18] <MFanatik> lol it dosen't makes hs_err_pid
#3088 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Using the browser, or the downloaded clieint?
#3089 [15:18] <checkeredknight> I think I might get rid of Comodo and head back to Zone Alarm then- that's what is running on my other PC and it works fine.
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#3091 [15:18] <checkeredknight> Thanks a lot for your help Grey. =)
#3092 [15:18] <glenn> i have mcafee security software
#3093 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - Zonealarm's worse..
#3094 [15:18] <checkeredknight> Oh?
#3095 [15:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#3095 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> I would not recommend it at all
#3096 [15:19] <MFanatik> usualy browser but have downloaded for hs used client but it dosen't make one
#3097 [15:19] <checkeredknight> I used to use it before switching to Comodo, never had any issues...
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#3099 [15:19] <glenn> so what will i do
#3100 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Download the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#3101 [15:19] <checkeredknight> Are there any other free firewalls you could suggest Grey?
#3102 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> glenn - Try configuring mcafee to let java/minecraft through on its exceptions list. If you don't know how, try just disabling the firewall aspect of it
#3103 [15:20] <rossco878> hi need help with minecraft when i load it up it says java plug in somthing ?? help plz dont no what to da
#3104 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> checkeredknight - You're running eset AV, why not just shell out a little bit more for the security suite version?
#3105 [15:20] <MFanatik> lol it stoped crashing but in am in a minute it will start agian
#3106 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - try downloading and installing java from java.com
#3107 [15:20] <checkeredknight> Hmm, you have a point. I will look into it. Cheers again. =)
#3108 [15:20] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3108 [15:21] <rossco878> have and it dosent work says cant download error 1772
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#3110 [15:21] <darkace> i tried to open the .bat file and it ist workin
#3111 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Then you've got some sort of issue with java being corrupt
#3112 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Does it open any sort of command prompt window?
#3113 [15:21] <Danny> Somehow I was directed here....but is this the site where our questions about running Minecraft can possibly be answered?
#3114 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Danny - Maybe
#3115 [15:21] <rossco878> do you know anything that could help me ?
#3116 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - Try downloading and running javaRA. It'll try and clear up any corrupt previous installations of java
#3117 [15:22] <glenn> i disabled the firewall but it still hasnt done anything
#3118 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> rossco878 win/javara
#3119 [15:22] <VoxelHead> rossco878: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3120 [15:22] <VoxelHead> rossco878: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#3121 [15:22] <MFanatik> ahh it dosen't make one
#3122 [15:22] <darkace> im not 100% sure really
#3123 [15:23] <Danny> I downloaded Minecraft but can't seem to run the program. Does anyone have any ideas?
#3124 [15:23] <MFanatik> hey grey it dosent make what file
#3125 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Danny - What operating system?
#3126 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Did it crash again?
#3127 [15:23] <MFanatik> yes :D
#3128 [15:23] <rossco878> wich one do i download ??
#3129 [15:24] <MFanatik> i know who could couse the problem mcpatcher
#3130 [15:24] <Danny> windows 7
#3131 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Do you know how to reinstall minecraft?
#3132 [15:24] <MFanatik> but i deleted all mc files and force uptaded but still it keeps crashing
#3133 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Danny - How much RAM do you have on the system?
#3134 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Then I'm going to need to know what that error message says
#3135 [15:25] <Danny> let me check
#3136 [15:25] <MFanatik> :(
#3137 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Look at the place where you have the launcher, there should be a file named hs_err_pid there
#3138 [15:25] * VoxelHead downloads some porn for mfanatik
#3138 [15:25] <darkace> im not 100% sure really about the command prompt window
#3139 [15:25] <MFanatik> i know but it's isin't where
#3140 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> darkace - When you saved the file, you saved it as a name ending in .bat, and changed the file type to "all files" right?
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#3142 [15:26] <MFanatik> VoxelHead downloads some porn for mfanatik ???
#3143 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Vox is a bot
#3144 [15:26] <VoxelHead> no I'm not
#3145 [15:26] <Danny> 6 GB of RAM
#3146 [15:26] <glenn> i disables the firewall completely but hasnt done anything
#3147 [15:26] <MFanatik> yes you are
#3148 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Do you not know where the launcher is?
#3149 [15:26] <MFanatik> yes on my dekstop
#3150 [15:26] <darkace> yea, but it says "could not fund main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame."
#3151 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - And there's no files named hs_err_pid on the desktop at all?
#3152 [15:27] <MFanatik> no
#3153 [15:27] <ArmEagle> blegh.. fences really should have a smaller bounding box, kinda like doors and glass panes..
#3154 [15:27] <MFanatik> i check by pressing h
#3155 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> darkace - did you download minecraft.jar, under the linux heading from minecraft.net/download?
#3156 [15:27] <Valerie> darkace, what version of Java do you have installed?
#3157 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Redownload it
#3158 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - And you're launching minecraft from that launcher, right? Not the browser?
#3159 [15:28] <MFanatik> YES
#3160 [15:28] <darkace> im not able to download that just open or save, not sure of version for java
#3161 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't get it, when minecraft crashes using the launcher, it always makes an error report.
#3162 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Did you choose 'save'?
#3163 [15:29] <Valerie> make sure you have the latest version of Java
#3164 [15:29] <MFanatik> do you have teamweaver?
#3165 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Yes
#3166 [15:29] <MFanatik> i could show you
#3167 [15:29] <glenn> greyVulpine i disabled the firewall completely but it didnt do anything
#3168 [15:29] <darkace> yea, i should have it saved on there (somewhere)
#3169 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> glenn - Redownload the launcher perhaps?
#3170 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - PM me your teamviewer id and password
#3171 [15:31] <MFanatik> wait whats your teamweaver version 5 or 6?
#3172 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> 6
#3173 [15:31] <MFanatik> ok wait
#3174 [15:31] <darkace> i saved minecraft.jar on here (somewhere) i just checked
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#3176 [15:32] <Danny> 6 GB of Ram
#3177 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Make sure the .bat file you saved, is in the same folder as the minecraft.jar that you downloaded from the website
#3178 [15:32] <darkace> ok
#3179 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Danny - Uninstall java completely from your system, reinstall it from java.com
#3180 [15:32] <rossco878> hi again done that thing you told me to do voxel head download javaRa still dosent work
#3181 [15:32] <Danny> ok...thank you
#3182 [15:32] <glenn> no it still doesnt work
#3183 [15:32] <darkace> they are
#3184 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - Did you "remove older versions" using JavaRA?
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#3186 [15:33] <bobd0le-> are there any single player mods for minecraft? Just want to spice things up a bit
#3187 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> bobd0le- - Tons
#3188 [15:33] <glenn> GreyVulpine it still doesnt work
#3189 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> try #risucraft, they're the mod people
#3190 [15:34] <darkace> they are in the same folder
#3191 [15:34] <MFanatik> grey did you saw what?
#3192 [15:34] <MFanatik> :D
#3193 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3194 [15:34] <VoxelHead> =]
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#3196 [15:35] <rossco878> ok i did that GreyVulpine and what now ??
#3197 [15:35] <MFanatik> ?
#3198 [15:35] * VoxelHead is away: shopping
#3198 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - Uninstall java from your system, reinstall it using java.com
#3199 [15:35] <MFanatik> grey anything else?
#3200 [15:35] <rossco878> how do i uninstall it ?
#3201 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> what version of windows are you on again?
#3202 [15:36] <rossco878> windows xp /
#3203 [15:37] <glenn> GreyVulpine were do i go to download the launcher
#3204 [15:37] <darkace> they are in the same folder GreyVulpine
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#3206 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - Start -> control panel -> add/remove programs
#3207 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> glenn - Minecraft.net/download
#3208 [15:38] <rossco878> then ?
#3209 [15:40] <onix> its getting grey when i play minecraft ... after the grey its gonna end minecraft
#3210 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> rossco878 - Look for java?
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#3212 [15:41] <darkace> i still cant play tho...
#3213 [15:41] <onix> java is doing fine
#3214 [15:41] <glenn> GreyVulpine it still dosent work
#3215 [15:42] <rossco878> it says internal error 2753 regutils.ddl ?
#3216 [15:44] <onix> ...
#3217 [15:45] <onix> need help minecraft dont is defect
#3218 [15:45] <onix> can not play
#3219 [15:47] <darkace> it isnt workin for me... even tho the 2 files are in the same folder
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#3222 [15:48] <glenn> i really need some help
#3223 [15:49] <ibktavo> why won't my minecraft work
#3224 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> darkace - Tell me what the contents of the .bat file say.
#3225 [15:50] <darkace> there is quite a bit itll take a few
#3226 [15:51] <ibktavo> can ANYONE help me??
#3227 [15:51] <darkace> exception in thread "main" java.lang.unsatisfiedLinkError: sun.awt.image.BufImgS
#3228 [15:52] <darkace> this is just the top portion, but thought it be important
#3229 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Wait, you're reading this from the black command prompt window?
#3230 [15:53] <darkace> yea...
#3231 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the window, Choose "mark", click and drag a box around the entire text. Right click again. Then go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there. Press the submit button, give me the address to the website
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#3233 [15:55] <darkace> http://pastebin.com/pfDUfEsV
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#3236 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a problem with java. Completely uninstall java from your system, and reinstall it again from java.com
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#3238 [15:57] <darkace> k, ill try
#3239 [15:57] <ibktavo> hey vulpine....
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#3242 [15:58] <mib_urfvgw> hi i need help
#3243 [15:58] <ibktavo> so do I
#3244 [15:59] <ibktavo> WHY CANT I GET ANY HELP
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#3247 [15:59] <TheNytangel> ibktavo, because you didn't ask a question
#3248 [15:59] <quiggle> hi i need help
#3249 [16:00] <quiggle> please
#3250 [16:00] <ibktavo> why is it that whenever i log into minecraft it just gives me a black screen
#3251 [16:00] <quiggle> me too
#3252 [16:00] <quiggle> its making me mad then an error log appears on my desktop
#3253 [16:01] <ibktavo> was that a good enough question?
#3254 [16:01] <quiggle> what
#3255 [16:02] <quiggle> do you now how to fix
#3256 [16:02] <ibktavo> noo thats why i came here
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#3258 [16:02] <quiggle> theres no one here to help
#3259 [16:02] <bobd0le-> hmm, my mods dont work at all ingame, i extracted them as told, but nothing, got them from - http://www.nextgenupdate.com/forums/minecraft-single-player-mods-hacks/429364-modpack-1-7-3-optifog-x-ray-zombe-tmi.html :(
#3260 [16:03] <bobd0le-> nvm
#3261 [16:03] <bobd0le-> forgot that they dont work with updates D:
#3262 [16:03] <Jadrin> I haven't been able to login to minecraft or use the in browser version at all for two days D:
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#3264 [16:04] <Faella> hi !
#3265 [16:04] <quiggle> hi do you know how to fix this # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6954ac8e, pid=3424, tid=1544 # # JRE version: 7.0-b147 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (21.0-b17 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x51ac8e] # # Failed to write core dump.
#3266 [16:04] <ibktavo> TheNytangel, please help i would like to know why, whenever i log to my account i get a black screen and nothing else
#3267 [16:04] <TheNytangel> ibktavo, did you download any mods
#3268 [16:04] <quiggle> no
#3269 [16:04] <ibktavo> no never
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#3271 [16:05] <quiggle> me either
#3272 [16:05] <quiggle> its driving me crazy its been doing that since first login
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#3274 [16:05] <quiggle> please we need an expert
#3275 [16:05] <Faella> could someone pm me, i got problem with game payment :s
#3276 [16:06] <ibktavo> at most i've only downloaded 1 texture pack that i have used for a month or longer
#3277 [16:07] <Faella> noone ?
#3278 [16:07] <judoka> I have a problem, is there anyone who would mind trying to help me?
#3279 [16:07] <quiggle> what
#3280 [16:07] <ibktavo> tangel?
#3281 [16:09] <ibktavo> tangel why aren't you speaking?
#3282 [16:10] <ibktavo> TheNytangel, are you there
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#3284 [16:10] <guest-741094-62930> my minecraft is very laggy
#3285 [16:11] <ibktavo> get a new computer
#3286 [16:11] <guest-741094-62930> i've been told that
#3287 [16:11] <ibktavo> XD
#3288 [16:11] <guest-741094-62930> ha ha
#3289 [16:11] <ibktavo> why am i being lest in the dust
#3290 [16:11] <ibktavo> *left
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#3292 [16:11] <guest-741094-62930> But really i have a MacBook... and i dont know
#3293 [16:12] <mib_wvyv82> hi
#3294 [16:12] <guest-741094-62930> hi
#3295 [16:12] <ibktavo> my minecraft isn't working on my laptop or pc
#3296 [16:12] <guest-741094-62930> ok... is it SP or did you buy it
#3297 [16:12] <ibktavo> SP?
#3298 [16:12] <ibktavo> i bought it
#3299 [16:13] <guest-741094-62930> Single Player... I think its illegal
#3300 [16:13] <guest-741094-62930> Is It minecraft 1.8, 1.7.3, etc.
#3301 [16:13] <ibktavo> yes
#3302 [16:14] <guest-741094-62930> are you using a mac, windows, or linux?
#3303 [16:14] <judoka> On our server, we have certain chunks of the world that we cant edit. Any idea why?
#3304 [16:14] <mib_wvyv82> can you help when i start minecraft on my PC i can logg in but then when the mojang page should come is just see:
#3305 [16:14] <ibktavo> windows xp
#3306 [16:14] <mib_wvyv82> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#3307 [16:14] <guest-741094-62930> Ummm is it just you?
#3308 [16:14] <guest-741094-62930> ok
#3309 [16:15] <guest-741094-62930> Im not support... im just a guest
#3310 [16:15] <ibktavo> i use windows xp
#3311 [16:15] <guest-741094-62930> @judoka is it just you or is it everyone
#3312 [16:15] <judoka> It is everyone
#3313 [16:15] <guest-741094-62930> ok thanks ibktavo... did you download it FOR xp?
#3314 [16:15] <ibktavo> yes
#3315 [16:16] <guest-741094-62930> @judoka oh.. maybe someone is really laggy
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#3317 [16:16] <guest-741094-62930> ibktavo ok then im sorry but i dont know
#3318 [16:16] <judoka> No, I dont think so
#3319 [16:16] <Kaito> Okay, so my boat dock system has me push a level to raise 4 blocks to push my boat out of the water
#3320 [16:16] <guest-741094-62930> ?
#3321 [16:16] <Kaito> but every time i do that, i get hurt
#3322 [16:16] <Kaito> is this a bug, or what?
#3323 [16:16] <ibktavo> POOP
#3324 [16:16] <frogonia> hello
#3325 [16:16] <Kaito> and i lose a non-insiginificant amount of hearts
#3326 [16:16] <judoka> There is a defined border around which we cannot edit
#3327 [16:16] <guest-741094-62930> Bug...
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#3329 [16:17] <judoka> You can play fine until you reach that spot, then nothing happens once you pass it
#3330 [16:17] <guest-741094-62930> can a administrator or something help?
#3331 [16:17] <guest-741094-62930> judoka maybe its the boundry.... i think
#3332 [16:17] <ibktavo> no none of them respond to anyone
#3333 [16:17] <judoka> you can go through it, walk around it, but if you place a block, it disappears, if you remove one, it comes back
#3334 [16:17] <guest-741094-62930> its just a glitch or a bug..
#3335 [16:18] <guest-741094-62930> maybe
#3336 [16:18] <lartschi> hey hab ein problem mit dem spiel. immer wenn ich das spiele kann ich 15 min lang spielen dann geht auf einmal mein pc aus ohne grund und nach dem hochfahren wieder kommt auch keine fehlermeldung was ist das problem?
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#3338 [16:18] <guest-741094-62930> ...
#3339 [16:19] <judoka> it seems the game crashes for him after 15 minutes
#3340 [16:19] <ibktavo> wow so i bought a game that i get to play for a month and when it won't work they won't help me..... THANKS MINECRAFT
#3341 [16:19] <guest-741094-62930> ok
#3342 [16:19] <judoka> but up until that, it runs fine
#3343 [16:19] <judoka> ibktavo, its in beta
#3344 [16:19] <judoka> shut your face
#3345 [16:19] <guest-741094-62930> ibktavo update it! download minecraft.jar 1.9
#3346 [16:20] <ibktavo> where?
#3347 [16:20] <guest-741094-62930> Google it
#3348 [16:20] <judoka> why download the prerelease, that is buggier than 1.8.1
#3349 [16:20] <guest-741094-62930> Because then it will work! but can you get me the link to 1.8.1?
#3350 [16:20] <lartschi> ich habe 1,8,1
#3351 [16:20] <guest-741094-62930> i would like it
#3352 [16:20] <judoka> 1.8.1 has shown to be a stable verson
#3353 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> then get 1.8.1
#3354 [16:21] <Jadrin> i can't login at all
#3355 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> did you buy it?
#3356 [16:21] <Jadrin> yes
#3357 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> ok...
#3358 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> when?
#3359 [16:21] <Jadrin> while back
#3360 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> oh...
#3361 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> are you in caps lock?
#3362 [16:21] <Jadrin> i played it for a long time and then stopped for a while
#3363 [16:21] <Jadrin> no?
#3364 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> ...
#3365 [16:21] <guest-741094-62930> it hapeens to me sometimes
#3366 [16:22] <Jadrin> it says "Logging in..." forever and then says "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#3367 [16:22] <guest-741094-62930> do you have good internet?
#3368 [16:22] <Jadrin> and when i try the browser version, the Java logo just spins until i get an error
#3369 [16:22] <Jadrin> yeah
#3370 [16:22] <guest-741094-62930> ok... have you played online on the minecraft launcher?
#3371 [16:23] <Jadrin> no
#3372 [16:23] <Jadrin> it won't load
#3373 [16:23] <guest-741094-62930> oh...
#3374 [16:23] <guest-741094-62930> Delete it and re-install it
#3375 [16:23] <Jadrin> tried that
#3376 [16:23] <Jadrin> there really isn't anything to delete or reinstall anyway
#3377 [16:24] <Jadrin> it never gets to the point where anything is put in the .minecraft folder
#3378 [16:24] <guest-741094-62930> ok
#3379 [16:24] <guest-741094-62930> PM Me Jardin
#3380 [16:25] <Valerie> Jadrin, running windows?
#3381 [16:25] <Jadrin> yep
#3382 [16:25] <Valerie> which version?
#3383 [16:26] <Jadrin> 7 pro 64 bit
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#3386 [16:26] <Valerie> Hmm
#3387 [16:26] <Valerie> what version of java do you have?
#3388 [16:26] <Valerie> is it Jre6u27?
#3389 [16:27] <Valerie> if it is, try deleting it, and then reinstalling it
#3390 [16:27] <Valerie> then reboot
#3391 [16:27] <Jadrin> yeah i'm actually trying to reinstall it and i get an error message at the end of the install
#3392 [16:27] <Jadrin> "Installer : Wrapper.CreateFile failed with error 5: Access is denied."
#3393 [16:28] <guest-741094-62930> ok
#3394 [16:29] <Valerie> access is denied
#3395 [16:30] <Valerie> hmm
#3396 [16:30] <Valerie> you running as admin on your PC?
#3397 [16:30] <Jadrin> yep
#3398 [16:30] <Valerie> try this
#3399 [16:30] <Valerie> reboot into safe mode
#3400 [16:30] <Valerie> remove java
#3401 [16:30] <Valerie> then reboot again into safe mode
#3402 [16:30] <Valerie> and try installing
#3403 [16:31] <Jadrin> hrm... l
#3404 [16:31] <Jadrin> k*
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#3412 [16:36] <Faella> Hi guys, i got a problem with game purchase : I abbort the payment, but then, a message like "purchase success" appears on the website... was the payment abborted, or not ?
#3413 [16:36] <judoka> Does anyone have any idea why there are certain sections of our vanilla multiplayer world that no one can edit.
#3414 [16:36] <judoka> ?*
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#3416 [16:37] <xales> Faella: it was aborted.
#3417 [16:37] <xales> judoka: If it's near the spawn, then you have to be opped on the server to destroy or place blocks
#3418 [16:37] <blinky> hey i cant run minecrat because it says i need to update my video card divers. anyone can help me out?
#3419 [16:38] <Faella> ok, thanks... thought it was weird to see "purchase success" when i abbort it ???
#3420 [16:38] <ibktavo> can i have a staff person help me?
#3421 [16:38] <Faella> ... *
#3422 [16:38] <blinky> anyone can help out? pz
#3423 [16:38] <judoka> opped?
#3424 [16:38] <judoka> Does that mean added to the ops list?
#3425 [16:39] <xales> judoka: Yes.
#3426 [16:39] <judoka> Holy hell! Thanks, I didnt know it was so easy.
#3427 [16:39] <guest-741094-62930> ... judoka whats your IP adress PM it to me
#3428 [16:39] <xales> uhm, no
#3429 [16:39] <judoka> Our world got corrupted awhile back
#3430 [16:39] <guest-741094-62930> oh..
#3431 [16:39] <judoka> and somehow the spawn moved
#3432 [16:39] <xales> guest-741094-62930: Don't just randomly ask people for IPs
#3433 [16:39] <ibktavo> @almostroot, can you help....
#3434 [16:40] <xales> ibktavo: This is community support; there is no official support
#3435 [16:40] <xales> If you need official support, see http://minecraft.net/support
#3436 [16:40] <blinky> anyon can hep me out wit running minecraft?
#3437 [16:40] <judoka> now it is right near the place where we cant edit
#3438 [16:40] <judoka> Thank you xales.
#3439 [16:40] <Dumbbunny99> i just bought it and i can't log in to play at all it just says error did i forget something?
#3440 [16:40] <xales> Dumbbunny99: _what_ error does it say?
#3441 [16:40] <Dumbbunny99> just error
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#3443 [16:40] <xales> It doesn't say "just error"
#3444 [16:40] <blinky> it says it need to update the video card drivers and have an accelrated gl mode or somethin. anyone?
#3445 [16:40] <xales> if there is an error, it will give more information than that
#3446 [16:41] <Dumbbunny99> and i didnt download it
#3447 [16:41] <xales> blinky: Update the video card drivers, then
#3448 [16:41] <Dumbbunny99> or something
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#3450 [16:41] <blinky> how do i update them?
#3451 [16:41] <xales> blinky: Do you know how to use Google? Try googling "How do I update my video card drivers"
#3452 [16:41] <xales> ._.
#3453 [16:41] <blinky> ;p
#3454 [16:41] <blinky> okay ill try tht then
#3455 [16:42] <blinky> ill be back if it doesnt work
#3456 [16:42] <blinky> tanks
#3457 [16:42] <ibktavo> IT JUST REFERED ME BACK HERE
#3458 [16:42] <xales> ibktavo: Again, we aren't official support. If we can help you, we can try, but we are not obligated to. If you shout at us, we will not help you
#3459 [16:42] <Dumbbunny99> okay it says (NOT DOWNLOADED) what didn't i download
#3460 [16:42] <ibktavo> okay....
#3461 [16:42] <xales> Dumbbunny99: Did you download Minecraft...?
#3462 [16:42] <Dumbbunny99> yes onto mac
#3463 [16:43] <ibktavo> do you have idea why it just shows a black screen whenever i log in...
#3464 [16:43] <xales> ibktavo: Did you try to install mods?
#3465 [16:43] <ibktavo> no none what so ever
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#3467 [16:43] <xales> Dumbbunny99: Your account probably hasn't been marked as premium yet, it can sometimes take time. Just be patient
#3468 [16:44] <xales> ibktavo: Try playing in your browser, here: http://minecraft.net
#3469 [16:44] <Dumbbunny99> okay ill wait an hour or two and check back thanx
#3470 [16:44] <ibktavo> that just gives me a white screen and never plays
#3471 [16:45] <ibktavo> i've updated java as well and nothing happens
#3472 [16:45] <xales> ibktavo: Reinstall Java
#3473 [16:45] <xales> Completely uninstall it, then install it again
#3474 [16:45] <ibktavo> how do i uninstall
#3475 [16:45] <Wug> :win/reinst/bat > ibktavo
#3476 [16:45] <WugBot> ibktavo: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3477 [16:45] <WugBot> ibktavo: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link
#3478 [16:46] <Wug> ;++ win/reinst/bat )
#3479 [16:46] <WugBot> Done.
#3480 [16:46] <Wug> oh wait, java.
#3481 [16:46] <ibktavo> run it?
#3482 [16:46] <Wug> :j
#3483 [16:46] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#3484 [16:46] <Wug> never mind, ignore the other one
#3485 [16:46] <ibktavo> ok
#3486 [16:46] <Wug> thats the current version of java, use that
#3487 [16:47] <ibktavo> i have the current one i just need to unistall the others
#3488 [16:47] <xales> Uninstall all of them, then install only the latest one
#3489 [16:47] <ibktavo> i dont know how to do that
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#3491 [16:48] <ibktavo> do i use control panel?
#3492 [16:48] <xales> Yes.
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#3494 [16:48] <ibktavo> ok 1 sec
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#3497 [16:49] <ibktavo> is it js2e runtime enviroment or just java
#3498 [16:49] <ibktavo> *j2se
#3499 [16:50] <Liger_XT5> Don't suppose anyone knows of a fix for the MC Windows client? I've redownloaded it and still can't get the news feed nor login with it. Web ui works just fine
#3500 [16:50] <guest-741094-62930> Judoka didnt work
#3501 [16:50] <guest-741094-62930> ... anything with MC is a mod...
#3502 [16:50] <ibktavo> wug....
#3503 [16:50] <kallajac> hi i'm on my brothers computer and i have a problem. i start the game press force update and then it freezes to "downloading packages"
#3504 [16:50] <guest-741094-62930> then dont hit force update...
#3505 [16:51] <ibktavo> xales....
#3506 [16:51] <xales> yes?
#3507 [16:51] <xales> kallajac: Turn off your firewall; try running Minecraft under a new Windows user account
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#3509 [16:51] <guest-741094-62930> JUDOKA!
#3510 [16:51] <kallajac> then it says "new update available! update now? "yes" "not now"" and when i hit not now the game freezes on "done loading"
#3511 [16:51] <ibktavo> is it j2se runtime enviroment or just java
#3512 [16:51] <xales> ibktavo: Both
#3513 [16:52] <ibktavo> ok i have them both so uninstall both?
#3514 [16:52] <xales> Yes.
#3515 [16:52] <guest-741094-62930> how to i change my name?
#3516 [16:52] <xales> /nick NAME
#3517 [16:52] <Dogface66> thats better
#3518 [16:53] <xales> ._.
#3519 [16:53] <kallajac> would someone help me?
#3520 [16:53] <ibktavo> i could'nt remove it
#3521 [16:53] <ibktavo> *couldn't
#3522 [16:53] <xales> kallajac: Turn off your firewall; try running Minecraft under a new Windows user account
#3523 [16:53] <xales> ibktavo: Why not?
#3524 [16:53] <kallajac> ok
#3525 [16:53] <ibktavo> let me try and find out
#3526 [16:54] <kallajac> but how to turn off firewall ::D:D
#3527 [16:54] <ibktavo> it says something like....
#3528 [16:54] <xales> kallajac: Google it. This isn't the "do everything for you" channel. If you can't help yourself at all, then we aren't going to waste our time doing everything for you
#3529 [16:54] <ibktavo> the network resource
#3530 [16:54] <xales> if you need someone to do everything for you, then you should hire a professional
#3531 [16:54] <ibktavo> youare trying to look for is
#3532 [16:55] <kallajac> ok im gonna try find a way
#3533 [16:55] <ibktavo> not working or something like that
#3534 [16:55] <xales> ibktavo: Does it say that for both of them?
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#3536 [16:55] <ibktavo> i have not tried java
#3537 [16:55] <xales> Try that, then.
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#3539 [16:56] <Kingpui> 14.95 for Beta Key? :(
#3540 [16:56] <ibktavo> its working
#3541 [16:56] <xales> Kingpui: Uh, yes
#3542 [16:56] <xales> That's cheaper than most games
#3543 [16:56] <xales> ._.
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#3545 [16:57] <judoka> xales, I got another question for you if you dont mind
#3546 [16:57] <Kingpui> I like the "Outdated" ^^
#3547 [16:57] <ibktavo> no reinstall java?
#3548 [16:57] <ibktavo> *now
#3549 [16:57] <Kingpui> German here?
#3550 [16:57] <kallajac> well turning off the firewall didn't work any other suggestions?
#3551 [16:57] <xales> judoka: Go ahead and ask
#3552 [16:57] <xales> kallajac: Again, try running it under a new Windows user account
#3553 [16:58] <kallajac> oh ok
#3554 [16:58] <judoka> So recently, SMP starting running really slowly, but just for me
#3555 [16:58] <judoka> like less than 1 fps
#3556 [16:58] <judoka> but singleplayer runs fine
#3557 [16:58] <judoka> and multiplayer runs fine for other people on our server
#3558 [16:59] <xales> Try another server, if you are on wifi, try plugging in your computer
#3559 [16:59] <xales> otherwise...check the speed of your Internet connection
#3560 [17:00] <judoka> See, the server was running off the same computer I was using
#3561 [17:01] <judoka> we have a fairly consistent 10Mb/s connection
#3562 [17:01] <ibktavo> ok xales, i unistalled java... reinstalled it now what do i do?
#3563 [17:02] <xales> ibktavo: Install it again
#3564 [17:02] <ibktavo> i did
#3565 [17:02] <xales> judoka: Ah, that's probably why
#3566 [17:02] <xales> Most computers can't handle playing and running a server at the same time
#3567 [17:02] <xales> Especially as the game grows more and more complex
#3568 [17:02] <judoka> But, let me preface that with this. It was running fine. I even moved the server onto another computer
#3569 [17:02] <judoka> running on the same network
#3570 [17:03] <judoka> still works fine for everyone
#3571 [17:03] <judoka> it is just an instance of Multiplayer mode for me
#3572 [17:03] <judoka> regardless of server
#3573 [17:03] <xales> hmm
#3574 [17:03] <xales> does it lag in single player?
#3575 [17:04] <ibktavo> xales it still gave me the black screen of not working
#3576 [17:04] <Dogface66> everything lags in single player (For Me at least!)
#3577 [17:04] <xales> ibktavo: Try running it on a new Windows user account
#3578 [17:04] <xales> Dogface66: Get a better computer
#3579 [17:05] <ibktavo> how so...?
#3580 [17:05] <ibktavo> ohhh
#3581 [17:05] <xales> ibktavo: Make a new Windows user account, switch to it, and then try to run it
#3582 [17:06] <Dogface66> HAHA IM ALWAYS TOLD THAT XD... I THINK MY MACBOOK IS GOOD oops on caps lock sorry
#3583 [17:06] <xales> ...
#3584 [17:07] <Dogface66> ... :)
#3585 [17:07] <Dogface66> xales how did you get your name in red
#3586 [17:07] <judoka> Xales: Nope, single player runs fine. Even when I am running the server on the same computer. Other players have no problems with lag when I am running singleplayer AND hosting the server either.
#3587 [17:07] <xales> I don't know why the iris client shows names in red
#3588 [17:08] <xales> probably because I'm opered at the moment
#3589 [17:08] <xales> (and no, you can't do that)
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#3591 [17:08] <xales> judoka: Any firewall or such on it?
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#3593 [17:08] <blinky> okay soo it says the lates driver isnt compatibe wit ma pc ;P
#3594 [17:08] <blinky> is there way i can download a less recent version?
#3595 [17:08] <xales> blinky: Then you are using the wrong driver, or your computer is too old to run Minecraft
#3596 [17:09] <blinky> great.
#3597 [17:09] <kallajac> i made a new user and turned off firewall and tried to run it with the new user but no
#3598 [17:09] <judoka> Xales: no firewall. It doesnt seem to be a connectivity issue because I still experience the problems when running it locally
#3599 [17:09] <xales> kallajac: Update your video card driver
#3600 [17:09] <blinky> so if i do get a newer pc can i transfer minecraft to the new one?
#3601 [17:09] <xales> judoka: Check the CPU and RAM usage while it's running; are either one maxing out?
#3602 [17:10] <xales> blinky: Yes, you can play Minecraft on any computer
#3603 [17:10] <blinky> so it doesnt have to e on ma comp?
#3604 [17:10] <blinky> in order for me to play
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#3607 [17:11] <blinky> hello?
#3608 [17:12] <mib_nfsbft> hallo is som onlind ?
#3609 [17:12] <blinky> wep ibought minecrat to find out i cant play it on ma comp :P
#3610 [17:12] <blinky> awesomness
#3611 [17:12] <xales> blinky: That is correct
#3612 [17:13] <judoka> Xales: Nope, its not a resources issue either.
#3613 [17:13] <kallajac> mope nothing even yet
#3614 [17:13] <kallajac> nope*
#3615 [17:13] <kallajac> i'l guess i'l have to wait for tomorrow
#3616 [17:13] <mib_nfsbft> Hello, I bought minecraft in alpha phase (back when minecraft was 9.99$) and i played it ever since. That is till now (i promise i haven't tinkered with any of the software or done something stupid to my account)- everytime i try to log into the game it tells me that my account is not premium even though i have a transfer reciept as proof that i have and i c
#3617 [17:14] <Dogface66> Well did you change the account ID/Password/Email?
#3618 [17:14] <mib_nfsbft> no
#3619 [17:14] <xales> mib_nfsbft: Are you sure you are logging in to the right account? If so, go to http://minecraft.net/support/ and follow the directions
#3620 [17:15] <mib_nfsbft> ty
#3621 [17:16] <Dogface66> xales your so helpful to people...
#3622 [17:16] <xales> and I don't even get paid.
#3623 [17:16] <Dogface66> .... you should
#3624 [17:16] <TheNoodle> (he does, he just doesn't want to admit it)
#3625 [17:16] <xales> I know, right?
#3626 [17:16] <TheNoodle> ;)
#3627 [17:16] <xales> >.>
#3628 [17:17] <kallajac> xales any other things that i should try?
#3629 [17:18] <xales> try asking on the forum, maybe
#3630 [17:18] <kallajac> ok
#3631 [17:18] <kallajac> anyway thanksfor the tips and your time
#3632 [17:19] <blinky> welp ima try to go to a riends house then xD
#3633 [17:19] <blinky> thanks xales
#3634 [17:24] <judoka> Xales, im trying to help this Dogface kid forward a port
#3635 [17:24] <judoka> but he doesnt know the IP
#3636 [17:24] <Dogface66> Its true
#3637 [17:24] <judoka> Im unfamiliar with Macs so im not sure how to find it for him
#3638 [17:24] <xales> judoka: Internal or external?
#3639 [17:25] <judoka> His router's internal
#3640 [17:25] <xales> judoka: Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
#3641 [17:25] <xales> output of `ifconfig`
#3642 [17:25] <judoka> I assume it would be like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.100.1 but neither seem to work
#3643 [17:25] <judoka> AH!
#3644 [17:25] <Dogface66> My internal is 192.168.100.299
#3645 [17:25] <judoka> i kept having him do an 'ipconfig'
#3646 [17:26] <judoka> iFconfig? That makes no sense steve jobs
#3647 [17:26] <xales> interface config
#3648 [17:26] <xales> makes perfect sense
#3649 [17:26] <xales> and it's POSIX
#3650 [17:26] <xales> not Apple :)
#3651 [17:26] <Dogface66> i have the copied thing
#3652 [17:26] <xales> in reality, it makes much more sense than ipconfig
#3653 [17:26] <Dogface66> but its really long!
#3654 [17:26] <xales> you don't configure a protocol
#3655 [17:26] <xales> >.>
#3656 [17:27] <Dogface66> ok
#3657 [17:27] <judoka> You dont configurate anything through ipconfig either ;)
#3658 [17:27] <xales> incorrect
#3659 [17:27] <xales> you "configure" stuff in the sense that you can perform maintenance related to the IP stack
#3660 [17:27] <judoka> just using ipconfig by itself gives a display
#3661 [17:28] <xales> I know
#3662 [17:28] <Dogface66> look... i just wanted to play online with a server i made... it keeps saying communication for them
#3663 [17:28] <xales> same with ifconfig
#3664 [17:28] <xales> :p
#3665 [17:28] <Dogface66> *Communication Error
#3666 [17:28] <Dogface66> sorry
#3667 [17:28] <judoka> Dogface, does that IP work when you type it in chrome?
#3668 [17:28] <Dogface66> umm
#3669 [17:28] <xales> Dogface66: Do you have an Apple router?
#3670 [17:29] <xales> (Apple's crap usually is on 10.Iforget but not always)
#3671 [17:29] <Dogface66> no
#3672 [17:29] <Dogface66> no apple router
#3673 [17:29] * xales is out for a bit, dinnertime!
#3673 [17:29] <Dogface66> it says TEST PAGE FOR APACHE!
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#3675 [17:31] <judoka> He says it is a WatchGuard Firebox
#3676 [17:31] <Eulogy> ca someone help me test out my server?
#3677 [17:31] <judoka> I have no clue what that it to be honest
#3678 [17:31] <judoka> is to be honest*
#3679 [17:31] <Eulogy> judoka
#3680 [17:31] <Eulogy> can you please try to connect to my server?
#3681 [17:32] <Dogface66> i said its a watch guard OR a firebox!
#3682 [17:32] <Eulogy> can anyone?
#3683 [17:32] <Dogface66> I can
#3684 [17:32] <Dogface66> in IP type in localhost
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#3686 [17:33] <judoka> Dogface, it appears WatchGuard is the brand, firebox is the model
#3687 [17:33] <Eulogy> dogface
#3688 [17:33] <judoka> Eulogy, if you send my your IP I can try
#3689 [17:33] <Eulogy> try to logg into that ip.
#3690 [17:34] <Dogface66> ill try
#3691 [17:34] <judoka> Eulogy, that was the same issue that Dogface was having
#3692 [17:34] <judoka> That is your local IP
#3693 [17:34] <judoka> not your external
#3694 [17:34] <judoka> the IP people need to connect to your server can be found through www.whatsmyip.org
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#3696 [17:36] <Dogface66> ..
#3697 [17:36] <Jak3_earle> i need help its not letting me play minecraft and i just got it today
#3698 [17:37] <Jak3_earle> ??..
#3699 [17:37] <Dogface66> BRB
#3700 [17:37] <Jak3_earle> k
#3701 [17:37] <Jak3_earle> ??
#3702 [17:37] <Jak3_earle> dose anyone know?
#3703 [17:38] <judoka> Did you buy it?
#3704 [17:40] * VoxelHead is back
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#3705 [17:43] <Liraxus> Scuse me, but for some odd reason, Minecraft 1.9 won't work for me. :v
#3706 [17:44] <TheNoodle> "Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release"
#3707 [17:44] <TheNoodle> That's my contribution to helping people today... :/
#3708 [17:44] <Liraxus> :l
#3709 [17:45] <Liraxus> Really?
#3710 [17:45] <TheNoodle> type /topic
#3711 [17:45] <Liraxus> Insufficient arguments for command.
#3712 [17:46] <TheNoodle> get a better client ^_^
#3713 [17:46] <Wug> ;+ pre We do not support pre releases. Wait until the official release.
#3714 [17:46] <WugBot> Done.
#3715 [17:46] <TheNoodle> !topic
#3716 [17:46] <Liraxus> !topic
#3717 [17:46] <Liraxus> :l
#3718 [17:46] * VoxelHead wins Liraxus and TheNoodle
#3718 [17:46] <TheNoodle> mfw I can't use /topic.
#3719 [17:46] <Wug> mfw I can
#3720 [17:47] <TheNoodle> Vox, go die in a hole.
#3721 [17:47] <Liraxus> Why? Its not like it was leaked by some complete and total douche like Ago.
#3722 [17:47] <Liraxus> (Half-life 2 Beta leaker)
#3723 [17:47] <TheNoodle> Liraxus, there's no point. Pre releases have too many bugs.
#3724 [17:47] <Wug> we have enough trouble supporting the buggy official version
#3725 [17:47] <Liraxus> Its not in-game
#3726 [17:47] <Wug> especially because we have to tell everone whos on a mac that they simply cannot run it
#3727 [17:47] <Liraxus> when its opening, it just says its loading and just stops
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#3729 [17:48] <Wug> because of the opengl compatibility thing
#3730 [17:48] <Liraxus> Oh.
#3731 [17:48] <Jak3_earle> yes i bought it ***
#3732 [17:48] <Wug> Jak3_earle: why isnt it letting you play
#3733 [17:48] <Liraxus> Ok, sorry for wasting your time
#3734 [17:49] <Jak3_earle> ? it says i need java er something
#3735 [17:49] <Jak3_earle> ?
#3736 [17:49] <VoxelHead> r
#3737 [17:49] <Wug> :j
#3738 [17:49] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#3739 [17:49] <Wug> ^ install
#3740 [17:49] <Jak3_earle> ok
#3741 [17:49] <Wug> pick the version that best fits your operating system
#3742 [17:49] <Jak3_earle> k
#3743 [17:51] <Jak3_earle> how will i know what best fits it ?
#3744 [17:51] <Wug> what os are you using
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#3746 [17:51] <Jak3_earle> ?? no idea
#3747 [17:51] <Jak3_earle> like mac
#3748 [17:51] <Wug> yes
#3749 [17:51] <Wug> do you have a mac
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#3751 [17:51] <Jak3_earle> ya
#3752 [17:51] <Jak3_earle> dell
#3753 [17:52] <Wug> ugh
#3754 [17:52] <Jak3_earle> >??
#3755 [17:52] <Wug> ... a dell mac?
#3756 [17:52] <zia> hello?
#3757 [17:52] <Wug> dell doesnt make macs
#3758 [17:52] <Jak3_earle> oh the moniter is Dell?
#3759 [17:52] <MCmania> hey does anyone know any good seeds that work for spawning you in an arctic or tundra biome where theres lots of snow???
#3760 [17:52] <Wug> MCmania: nope, sorry
#3761 [17:53] <Wug> Jak3_earle: you have a mac though
#3762 [17:53] <Wug> right?
#3763 [17:53] <Jak3_earle> no Pc
#3764 [17:53] <Jak3_earle> just asked
#3765 [17:53] <Wug> :dx > Jak3_earle
#3766 [17:53] <WugBot> Jak3_earle: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3767 [17:53] <WugBot> Jak3_earle: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3768 [17:53] <Wug> follow those instructions
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#3770 [17:54] <Fuzion> Black screen can some one help me???
#3771 [17:54] <Wug> Fuzion: why did it start
#3772 [17:54] <MCmania> cus i even looked on the forums from other people and tried theres and those didnt work either, do you not always spawn in the same spot as everyone else with the same seed??
#3773 [17:54] <Fuzion> I dont know i had some mods then it started then i deleted the mc flder then restart still nothing
#3774 [17:54] <Wug> MCmania: as far as I know yes, but they may have changed it
#3775 [17:55] <Jak3_earle> kjhffffffffffffffffffff
#3776 [17:55] <MCmania> oh alright thanks
#3777 [17:55] <Wug> :win/reinst/bat > Fuzion
#3778 [17:55] <WugBot> Fuzion: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3779 [17:55] <WugBot> Fuzion: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#3780 [17:55] <VoxelHead> WHY! WHY my piggy, WHY?? I loved you my piggy... I "loved" you
#3781 [17:55] <Fuzion> Im mac
#3782 [17:55] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE mac? feel these nipples!
#3783 [17:55] <Wug> ...
#3784 [17:55] <Wug> ignore vox
#3785 [17:56] <Fuzion> I know
#3786 [17:56] <Wug> did you have yogbox
#3787 [17:56] <Jak3_earle> this is so gay!!!!!
#3788 [17:56] <Fuzion> no
#3789 [17:56] <Wug> Jak3_earle: follow the directions
#3790 [17:56] <Jak3_earle> didnt work
#3791 [17:56] <Wug> ok, let me be more direct
#3792 [17:56] <Jak3_earle> k
#3793 [17:57] <Wug> read ALL of the directions
#3794 [17:57] <Wug> then follow ALL of them
#3795 [17:57] <Jak3_earle> no
#3796 [17:57] * Wug kicked Jak3_earle from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ak3_earle :fine)
#3797 [17:57] <Wug> stupid tab complete
#3798 [17:58] <Wug> Fuzion: hang on
#3799 [17:58] <Fuzion> OK
#3800 [17:58] <Wug> Scott: are you there
#3801 [17:59] <Fuzion> There we go i had to delete all the files in MCtmp then re install
#3802 [18:00] <Fuzion> Thanks anyways Wug
#3803 [18:00] <Wug> wait
#3804 [18:00] <Wug> what is mctmp
#3805 [18:00] * Wug doesnt have mac
#3805 [18:00] * Wug does not understand those infernal things
#3805 [18:01] <Fuzion> It was an only way of installing MC mods it was were u would put in classes instead on making minecraft.jar a zip format then putting in the classes
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#3807 [18:03] <Tanner> I can has a problem. Its not letting me log in, so when i play offline it says: "Unlicensed Copy :( (or logged in from another location) purchase at minecraft.net" also it wont let me update. I definitely payed for minecraft, but i am playing in a different location then wher i bought it, how can i fix this?
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#3810 [18:10] <amphibulus> Last Saturday I bought Minecraft and there were arising some problems. The following situation should show You my problem: At 3 pm (17.09.2011) I bought Minecraft at "minecraft.net". Everything was right and as i can read in my pofile I'm a premium user. But until today I'm not able to login in the downloaded version of Minecraft. So when i type in
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#3813 [18:10] <amphibulus> my username and my password the login failed and I'm only able to play offline. Now it is my question what to do to play minecraft online and without any complications like the "Out of memory" like it is all 20 minutes when i play offline in Singleplayer. I already paid 14.95 euro and since now I'm not able to play minecraft online.What I also was trying is
#3814 [18:10] <amphibulus> to play minecraft "in browser" but this doesnt work, too. I'would be pleased, if You can answer me and deal with my problem. I hope my knowledge of englisch is not as bad.
#3815 [18:14] <Scott> Wug what do you want
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#3820 [18:23] <Lazyguy64> i need mac help...
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#3822 [18:24] <Lazyguy64> when i log in with a mac it says login failed immediatly after login...
#3823 [18:24] <Lazyguy64> ?
#3824 [18:24] <bletch> One of my kids intentionally blew up the other boy's house with TNT. He's crying. Is there a way for tech support to revert to a previous save?
#3825 [18:24] <Calinou> are you on mac os x 10.5.8?
#3826 [18:24] <Calinou> Lazyguy64: minecraft 1.8 is broken for 10.5.8
#3827 [18:25] <Lazyguy64> why?
#3828 [18:25] <Calinou> look at the message you recieved when you joined the channel
#3829 [18:25] <Calinou> there is a fix!
#3830 [18:25] <Calinou> bletch: unless you made a backup, no
#3831 [18:25] <Calinou> next time do not give him TNT
#3832 [18:25] <Lazyguy64> when is the prospected date for 1.9?
#3833 [18:25] <Calinou> a few weeks. just speculation
#3834 [18:26] <Lazyguy64> :/ well thats inconvient...damn notch..
#3835 [18:26] <Lazyguy64> oh well, thanks
#3836 [18:26] <Lazyguy64> :)
#3837 [18:26] <Calinou> there is a pre-release if you want to try
#3838 [18:26] <VoxelHead> =D
#3839 [18:26] <bletch> ok. thanks.
#3840 [18:26] <Lazyguy64> meh
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#3844 [18:32] <Dodo> hi
#3845 [18:32] <Dodo> are the MC servers down? i cant connect!
#3846 [18:32] <alex-> Dodo: what about firewall?
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#3848 [18:33] <bernard> when i join servers and play it for a while it says connecting to server... then does not let me play any more
#3849 [18:33] <Dodo> no when i try to login the only message i get is login failed
#3850 [18:34] <Dodo> the firewall settings are okay
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#3852 [18:36] <Dodo> can someone help me?
#3853 [18:37] <bernard> can someone help me?
#3854 [18:37] <VoxelHead> SNAP!
#3855 [18:38] <asdboy> Hey Guys I am Running Mac OS X 10.6.6 and i can open up the new launcher but when i try to login it always fails... Any Suggestions?
#3856 [18:39] <Dodo> i have the same problme but i have windows
#3857 [18:40] <Dodo> the login fails!
#3858 [18:40] <asdboy> I know it is very Annoying... If only i new the problem
#3859 [18:40] <Wug> ;memo send scott had someone with a mac problem but they gone now
#3860 [18:40] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to scott when next he's active.
#3861 [18:41] <asdboy> I can give you full specs of my computer if u need more info... All my friends cant. I have updated Java and my driver so it should work
#3862 [18:42] <asdboy> All my friends cant login aswell*
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#3864 [18:44] <rev-lemon> asdboy try minecraft.net ' in broswer after you login
#3865 [18:44] <asdboy> ok
#3866 [18:45] <Saft> Hi! I startet a World in 1.8, will the people in a village be added in 1.9?
#3867 [18:45] <rev-lemon> saft viligers are in 1.8 so you dont have to worry
#3868 [18:45] <Saft> in every village? i got one but its empty
#3869 [18:46] <asdboy> I can login on my browser but in-game i cannot... Could it have something to do with my security settings blocking servers? And if so what settings?
#3870 [18:46] <rev-lemon> yes 1.8 is empty if you get the 1.9 pre then you get test viligers but only test ones
#3871 [18:46] <Scott> I swear if your bot spams me, I will kill it.
#3872 [18:46] <rev-lemon> asdboy yes try that
#3873 [18:46] <asdboy> ok then
#3874 [18:46] <Saft> hm, im testing 1.9 right no and still empty :(
#3875 [18:47] <rev-lemon> saft are you sure you have the jar file in the bin dir ?
#3876 [18:47] <Saft> just one file right?
#3877 [18:47] <rev-lemon> yes
#3878 [18:48] <rev-lemon> and when you play does it say anything at the top of the screen ?
#3879 [18:48] <Saft> the screen says Minecraft Beta 1.0 Prerelease
#3880 [18:48] <Saft> 1.9
#3881 [18:48] <rev-lemon> saft then i dont know why your village doesnt have the test dummies lol
#3882 [18:48] <Saft> okay, thank you
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#3885 [18:50] <mib_lsfw8o> I just bought the game, so how do I download it?
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#3887 [18:51] <rev-lemon> mib_lsfw8o it prob wont have gone though, but can you first login to minecraft.net and click in broswer please
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#3890 [18:53] <SkrillexJr> Hey can i get some help?
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#3892 [18:53] <Morrolan> Ask your question and you'll see whether someone can help, SkrillexJr.
#3893 [18:53] <mib_lsfw8o> ok I got into the game using the browser, but how do I download the standalone?
#3894 [18:53] <Morrolan> !client
#3895 [18:53] <asdboy> I have now turned off my firewall but still have the same problem it just says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" and "Login Error"... This is really annoying because i am supposed to be doing a timelapse with some youtubers
#3896 [18:54] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: From the links AuBot gave you.
#3897 [18:54] <Morrolan> asdboy: Did you ever pirate the game? Did it ever work before?
#3898 [18:54] <asdboy> I havent pirated the game I legitally bought it
#3899 [18:54] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Respectivley go to www.minecraft.net/download.jsp and get it.
#3900 [18:55] <thatguy1> Hello, I was wondering about some login trouble I have been having. I have Beta 1.5 and have not played for awhile, and forgot my password. I changed my password, and even made a new account, but when trying to open the game, it says login failed, no matter what. What can I do?
#3901 [18:56] <TheNoodle> Redownload the client.
#3902 [18:56] <mib_lsfw8o> is the stand alone supposed to be under the download section?
#3903 [18:57] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Yes it is.
#3904 [18:57] <mib_lsfw8o> it still says When you have bought the game, you can download the stand-alone launcher for Minecraft here. It will automatically update the game files with the latest version. You'll be able to play the game without an Internet connection if you've been online at least once.
#3905 [18:57] <Morrolan> thatguy1: Can you login with that password and username on www.minecraft.net ?
#3906 [18:57] <mib_lsfw8o> yes I can
#3907 [18:57] <Morrolan> You aren't called thatguy1, mib_lsfw8o. ;)
#3908 [18:58] <mib_lsfw8o> no
#3909 [18:58] <asdboy> What was implemented in 1.8 that affects the way macs connect to minecraft.net because i had no problems in 1.7.3 and below
#3910 [18:58] <thatguy1> Yes I can, just not the game itself.
#3911 [18:58] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Below that text it should show a downloadlink, provided that you're logged into the website.
#3912 [18:58] <lemon-rev> asdboy you could check your antvirus scanner if you have one to see if its being blocked in that
#3913 [18:58] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Should look (if on Windows) like this: "Download Minecraft.exe (270 KB). Place it anywhere you want, then run it."
#3914 [18:59] <Morrolan> thatguy1: Are you on the old or on the new launcher?
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#3916 [18:59] <thatguy1> Don't know, What is the difference?
#3917 [18:59] <asdboy> kk i will give it a go lemon-rev
#3918 [18:59] <Morrolan> thatguy1: Redownload it from www.minecraft.net/download.jsp and try again.
#3919 [18:59] <mib_jr6707> does anyone know how to fix the "login failed" problem?
#3920 [18:59] <mib_lsfw8o> I did launch it from that link but it says it wont connect
#3921 [19:00] <Morrolan> thatguy1: If it looks different then you were using the old launcher, and it should work now. If not we'll look further.
#3922 [19:00] <Morrolan> mib_jr6707: Are you on the old or new launcher?
#3923 [19:00] <asdboy> I gtg anyways i just hope he fixes it in 1.9
#3924 [19:00] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: When do you get that message? And what is the exact message you get?
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#3926 [19:01] <mib_lsfw8o> after I put in my log in name and password
#3927 [19:01] <mib_jr6707> When I hit log in, a message appears and gives me the option to play offline or to try again btw im running in mac os
#3928 [19:01] <mib_lsfw8o> it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#3929 [19:02] <Morrolan> mib_jr6707: Are you on the old or new launcher?
#3930 [19:02] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Did it ever work before?
#3931 [19:03] <mib_lsfw8o> no I just bought it a few mins ago
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#3933 [19:04] <thatguy1> Strange, When I download it it does not show up. I'm on windows 7 if that helps.
#3934 [19:04] <lemon-rev> theguy1 when you download yu get to pick where it downloads to
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#3936 [19:05] <lemon-rev> theguy1 also you have to rename the file to minecraft.exe < and not just minecraft how it comes off the minecraft.net site
#3937 [19:05] <thatguy1> Yes and I keep downloading to desktop, and it doesn't show up. I've downloaded it to other places and even tried running it from download and it doesn't work.
#3938 [19:05] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Did you ever pirate the game?
#3939 [19:06] <mib_lsfw8o> yeah thats how I got to try it out
#3940 [19:06] <Morrolan> Either way, I'm gonna catch some sleep, cya.
#3941 [19:06] <lemon-rev> thatguy1 thats because you havent renamed it yet
#3942 [19:06] <Morrolan> mib_lsfw8o: Ok, follow these instructions:
#3943 [19:06] <lemon-rev> lol
#3944 [19:06] <Morrolan> ??> mib_lsfw8o win/unpirate
#3945 [19:06] <VoxelHead> mib_lsfw8o: (win/unpirate) Open notepad as admin. Open your hosts file (C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts). Find and remove any lines containing urls on minecraft.net.
#3946 [19:06] <lemon-rev> later morrolan is there a fix for the not connected thing yea ?
#3947 [19:06] <Morrolan> Well, if they're still on the old launcher tell them to use the new one.
#3948 [19:06] <lemon-rev> kk
#3949 [19:06] <Dogface66> i cant port forward
#3950 [19:06] <Dogface66> i know how
#3951 [19:07] <Morrolan> Apart from that: system time & date correct, hostsfile, virus scanner.
#3952 [19:07] <Dogface66> but it can't
#3953 [19:07] <Dogface66> morrolan
#3954 [19:07] <lemon-rev> kk
#3955 [19:07] <lemon-rev> np
#3956 [19:07] <thatguy1> Renamed the file?
#3957 [19:07] <Dogface66> ?
#3958 [19:07] <mib_jr6707> hey, I have owned MC for a while now but in my mac, suddenly the login failed message appears and asks me if I want to play offline or try again. Whats the fix?
#3959 [19:07] <lemon-rev> Dogface66 look up your router on the internet make and model and type in manuel and have a look though it,
#3960 [19:07] <Dogface66> im using a router that won't port forward
#3961 [19:08] <lemon-rev> mib_jr6707 goto minecraft.net login and click in broswer
#3962 [19:08] <Dogface66> I am specificially using a Watchguard Firebox
#3963 [19:08] <lemon-rev> Dogface66 then get a new one
#3964 [19:08] <Dogface66> Im 12 so i cant
#3965 [19:08] <lemon-rev> Dogface66 why not
#3966 [19:08] <Dogface66> BECAUSE IM 12
#3967 [19:08] <lemon-rev> hm
#3968 [19:09] <mib_jr6707> lemon-rev then?
#3969 [19:09] <lemon-rev> mib_jr6707 the game should load up in broswer hopefully
#3970 [19:09] <mib_jr6707> i know but Im talking about the minecraft software that says login failed
#3971 [19:09] <lemon-rev> Dogface66 then as i said look up the manuel and see if theres a way if not then sorry but if you can get to minecraft.net and login then you can still play it
#3972 [19:09] <Dogface66> and plus i dont think my dad wants a new router
#3973 [19:10] <Dogface66> ok
#3974 [19:10] <mib_jr6707> lemon-rev i know but Im talking about the minecraft software that says login failed
#3975 [19:10] <lemon-rev> mib_jr6707 i want to know if the mc will update on your pc after the ages its been from the update
#3976 [19:10] <lemon-rev> ok
#3977 [19:10] <thatguy1> Still not working, even when renaming it minecraft.exe
#3978 [19:10] <Dogface66> anyone know any 1.9 servers?
#3979 [19:10] <lemon-rev> thatguy1 can you play in broswser
#3980 [19:10] <mib_lsfw8o> so I should remove all the files that have to do with the pirated version?
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#3982 [19:11] <lemon-rev> dogface66 /j #minecraft
#3983 [19:11] <oreo> when i try to join a server it says enternal exeption:java.net read timed out
#3984 [19:11] <Dogface66> yt
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#3986 [19:11] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o if you have the pirated version yes
#3987 [19:11] <oreo> when i try to join a server it says enternal exeption:java.net read timed out
#3988 [19:12] <lemon-rev> oreo we cant control servers it just means you cant reach that server or the server is off line
#3989 [19:12] <samo> not working for me either with a rename
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#3993 [19:12] <lemon-rev> samo what are you seeing ?
#3994 [19:12] <mib_b47akd> Quick question, can sticky pistons pull sticky pistons?
#3995 [19:12] <lemon-rev> mib_b47akd yes i belive so
#3996 [19:12] <thatguy1> Yes, it works and updated in the browser.
#3997 [19:13] <mib_b47akd> allright tyvm
#3998 [19:13] <lemon-rev> thatguy1 ok retry on the launcher
#3999 [19:13] <samo> no start up on application
#4000 [19:13] <Charlie> can someone help me install mods on a server without bukket?
#4001 [19:13] <lemon-rev> samo so the app wont open at all ?
#4002 [19:13] <lemon-rev> charlie /j #bukkit
#4003 [19:13] <samo> no
#4004 [19:13] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev it did update
#4005 [19:13] <lemon-rev> good
#4006 [19:13] <VoxelHead> goooooooooooooooood
#4007 [19:14] <Charlie> ok
#4008 [19:14] <lemon-rev> does it play mib_nrvczj
#4009 [19:14] <mib_lsfw8o> I deleted all the files I can find but the option to download the standalone is still not there
#4010 [19:14] <samo> nothing
#4011 [19:14] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev a white screen stays
#4012 [19:14] <Charlie> lemon-rev without bukket
#4013 [19:14] <thatguy1> did not work on launcher.
#4014 [19:15] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o what you mean not there if you download from minecraft.net and click on download then you should see a link to minecraft.exe
#4015 [19:15] <Charlie> lemon-rev i do not want bukket
#4016 [19:15] <lemon-rev> charlie then try #risucraft
#4017 [19:15] <Charlie> lemon-rev thank you
#4018 [19:15] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev hey in the browser, a white screen appears and stays
#4019 [19:16] <lemon-rev> mib_nrvczj goto java.com and install latest java please
#4020 [19:17] <mib_lsfw8o> ok I went to the .exe and tryed to log on but it says it cant connect to the server
#4021 [19:18] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev ok wait
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#4023 [19:18] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o is that before you get to the menu and after login or where ?
#4024 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_uou3ht.
#4025 [19:18] <lemon-rev> vox shut it
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#4027 [19:20] <mib_lsfw8o> its when I open the exe and it says to login I put all my info then press loging then it says I cant right when I press it
#4028 [19:20] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev hey it was already up to date
#4029 [19:20] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o check your firewall & anitvirus program for blocking please
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#4031 [19:20] <lemon-rev> hm
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#4033 [19:20] <lemon-rev> mib_nrvczj windows / mac ?
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#4035 [19:20] <dr_bibble> windows
#4036 [19:21] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev mac
#4037 [19:21] <Corrie> hi ppl
#4038 [19:21] <lemon-rev> hm
#4039 [19:21] <Corrie> i have a problem
#4040 [19:21] <mib_lsfw8o> oh and after I log in, in bracekts it says not downloaded
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#4042 [19:21] <lemon-rev> mib_nrvczj you will have to wait for someone to come along tha knows more about macs it could be video drivers but im not techi with macs
#4043 [19:22] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev what would u do in a windows?
#4044 [19:22] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o does the game run in broswer ?
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#4046 [19:22] <lemon-rev> i would try and get you to do a dxdiag which can only be done in widnows
#4047 [19:22] <lemon-rev> lol
#4048 [19:22] <lemon-rev> windows*
#4049 [19:22] <Corrie> lemon-re can u have a shot at helping me with a problem i have?
#4050 [19:22] <Corrie> rev*
#4051 [19:22] <mib_nrvczj> lemon-rev lol
#4052 [19:23] <mib_nrvczj> ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT MAC?
#4053 [19:23] <lemon-rev> which will give me info on your system specs
#4054 [19:23] <thatguy1> Pardon me,
#4055 [19:23] <dr_bibble> um... recently i recieved a virus and i got rid of that and and kept as many files as possible.. most reloaded fine and minecraft appeared to as well but after i hit the login button it will say something about a script error i bleive it is a java thing possibly (windows) i have deleted the files and re downloaded both minecraft and java... advise
#4056 [19:23] <mib_lsfw8o> does that mean I didnt download it right?
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#4058 [19:24] <lemon-rev> ??> dr_bibble win/reinst
#4059 [19:24] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4060 [19:24] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4061 [19:24] <Corrie> i have a problem, i forgot my password so i go to reset my password type in my username press the button and i get this
#4062 [19:24] <lemon-rev> mib_lsfw8o it just means i dont know if your video drver is up todate or not
#4063 [19:24] <Corrie> Oops, an error occured
#4064 [19:24] <Corrie> This exception has been logged with id 67om0n1cf.
#4065 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Idiot.
#4066 [19:24] <Zed> im suffering an issue with minecraft
#4067 [19:24] <Zed> hold on...
#4068 [19:25] <ZedTheEvilTaco> thats better...
#4069 [19:25] <dr_bibble> ty i will try that
#4070 [19:25] <lemon-rev> Corrie we ant mojang please goto minecraft.net and click on help and hopefully get some there
#4071 [19:26] <ZedTheEvilTaco> i have a problem with basically everything minecraft
#4072 [19:26] <Wug> well describe whats wrong then
#4073 [19:27] <mib_nrvczj> ANYONE KNOWS MAC FIXES?
#4074 [19:27] <thatguy1> Pardon me, but I was saying I was trying to re download the launcher to no avail, and it works on the browser but not the launcher...
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#4076 [19:27] <mib_ylmjzb> hi, i have a mac minecraft error question
#4077 [19:28] <lemon-rev> thetguy1 have you double checked your antivirus and firewalls ?
#4078 [19:28] <dr_bibble> if all else fail delete everything minecraft and re-install... make sure you get it completely
#4079 [19:28] <mib_ylmjzb> can someone answer my question? wanna know before i write lol
#4080 [19:28] <ZedTheEvilTaco> i have two computers. I installed minecraft on one, and it works great. but that computer overheats real quick when I play minecraft. So i installed it on this computer, and it doesn't work. I tell it to download the .exe, and it does. when I tell it to run that, it will either not run it, or bring up the box. Hold on a second...
#4081 [19:28] <lemon-rev> dr_bibble i told you what you should do please do it
#4082 [19:29] <lemon-rev> ZedTheEvilTaco rename the file you downloaded to minecraft.exe
#4083 [19:30] <dr_bibble> i am trying thank you one more question but my .minecraft file the only minecraft file i have left after getting rid of the redownload has a file and a folder .bin and last login should i get rid of both?
#4084 [19:30] <mib_ylmjzb> i have a MacBook Pro with a 2.1 ghz intel core 2 duo prossesor. I just bought Minecraft yesterday and so when i try and load a new map (i havent even played 1) it black screens, so i was wondering if you knew anyway to fix that
#4085 [19:30] <ZedTheEvilTaco> It is named that... After I login in, it goes straight to a black screen. No loading sequence, nothing. Can I get some help plz? Btw, I run an XP on the one that works, and a windows 7 on the one that doesn't.
#4086 [19:31] <lemon-rev> mib_ylmjzb goto java.com and install
#4087 [19:31] <lemon-rev> ZedTheEvilTaco you to goto java.com and install
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#4089 [19:31] <mib_ylmjzb> macs have pre installed i already checked if i had the latest version
#4090 [19:31] <mib_ylmjzb> let me show you the error code
#4091 [19:32] <Gurkenglas> hmmmm. How can I make anyone from Mojang look at my ideas
#4092 [19:32] <ZedTheEvilTaco> i've tried that. everytime i do, it gives me an install error...
#4093 [19:32] <Gurkenglas> Twitter wont work it seems
#4094 [19:32] <mib_ylmjzb> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Function is not supported at org.lwjgl.BufferChecks.checkFunctionAddress(BufferChecks.java:64) at org.lwjgl.opengl.GL13.glClientActiveTexture(GL13.java:129) at xe.a(SourceFile:111) at bv.a(SourceFile:184) at i.a(SourceFile:1207) at iw.a(SourceFile:866) at iw.b(SourceFile:756) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Sourc
#4095 [19:32] <Wug> mib_ylmjzb: use pastebin
#4096 [19:32] <lemon-rev> ??> ZedTheEvilTaco win/javara
#4097 [19:32] <VoxelHead> ZedTheEvilTaco: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#4098 [19:32] <VoxelHead> ZedTheEvilTaco: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#4099 [19:32] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_ylmjzb win/reinst
#4100 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_ylmjzb: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4101 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_ylmjzb: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4102 [19:33] <ZedTheEvilTaco> thx. ill check it out
#4103 [19:33] <mib_ylmjzb> i already said i had a mac
#4104 [19:33] <Wug> mib_ylmjzb: what version of osx
#4105 [19:34] <mib_ylmjzb> 10.5.8
#4106 [19:34] <Wug> it wont work on your conputer
#4107 [19:34] <Wug> com*
#4108 [19:34] <mib_ylmjzb> com?
#4109 [19:34] <Wug> hopefully it will be fixed in 1.9
#4110 [19:34] <Wug> computer*
#4111 [19:34] <mib_ylmjzb> why not?
#4112 [19:34] <dr_bibble> lemon-rev the files in the .minecraft folder that showed up after i went to %appdata% was .bin and last login
#4113 [19:34] <Wug> its a mac issue
#4114 [19:35] <mib_nrvczj> Wug hey I have a problem in mac, when I hit log in the "login failed" message appears and tells me if I want to play offline or try again, how do I fix it?
#4115 [19:35] <dr_bibble> which should i get rid of or both
#4116 [19:35] <mib_ylmjzb> 0.0 wish i knew that before i wasted my money
#4117 [19:35] <thatguy1> odd, when downloading as minecraft.exe it starts, then stops halfway through the download.
#4118 [19:35] <Wug> dr_bibble: do you have a ! in your username
#4119 [19:35] <Wug> your windows username
#4120 [19:35] <mib_nrvczj> Wug you know the fix?
#4121 [19:35] <Wug> mib_nrvczj: check your password
#4122 [19:36] <mib_nrvczj> Wug its correct
#4123 [19:36] <Wug> check it anyway
#4124 [19:36] <mib_ylmjzb> does anyone know when 1.9 comes out because i really want my minecraft
#4125 [19:36] <mib_nrvczj> Wug its correct and login failed
#4126 [19:37] <Wug> login failed tends to mean the username or password is wrong
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#4128 [19:37] <mib_nrvczj> Wug hmm...
#4129 [19:37] <Wug> try logging into the website
#4130 [19:37] <mib_nrvczj> its the same user and pass I just entered in the site
#4131 [19:37] <mib_nrvczj> wug
#4132 [19:38] <mib_ylmjzb> wug my friend has the new macbook pro which has same OS X version and it works fine
#4133 [19:38] <mib_ylmjzb> sooo
#4134 [19:38] <thatguy1> After Changing something in my virus software, I re-downloaded it (which worked) and it started working. Somebody should take note of this. Thanks for the help!
#4135 [19:38] <Wug> theres been loads of people on 1.5.8 who cant play
#4136 [19:38] <thatguy1> *If you have an older version
#4137 [19:39] <mib_nrvczj> Wug the passowrd and user is correct in the site and I enter the same in software and login fails
#4138 [19:39] <Wug> mib_nrvczj: disable any firewalls you have running, then try
#4139 [19:39] <mib_nrvczj> Wug ok
#4140 [19:39] <mib_ylmjzb> that must not be the problem because as i said i have like 5 friends with macbooks who an play minecraft so
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#4142 [19:40] <Wug> mib_ylmjzb: there are different versions of osx
#4143 [19:40] <Wug> they probably have 1.6
#4144 [19:40] <Wug> you said you have 1.5.8
#4145 [19:40] <mib_ylmjzb> yeh
#4146 [19:40] <Wug> nobody who has come here has been able to get it working on 1.5.8
#4147 [19:40] <mib_ylmjzb> how do u get 1.6?
#4148 [19:40] <mib_nrvczj> Wug it was already off
#4149 [19:40] <Wug> knowing apple, you buy it
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#4151 [19:41] <mib_ylmjzb> i just updated my system
#4152 [19:41] <guest-0-30294> Guys i have a ?
#4153 [19:41] <mib_ylmjzb> oh for fuck sakes 0..0
#4154 [19:41] * AuBot kicked mib_ylmjzb from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_ylmjzb :Please keep it civil.)
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#4156 [19:41] <mib_nrvczj> Wug the firewall was already off...
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#4159 [19:41] <Wug> change your nick
#4160 [19:41] <guest-0-30294> Guys can some1 help me?
#4161 [19:41] <mib_nrvczj> Wug me?
#4162 [19:41] <Wug> yes you
#4163 [19:41] <Wug> anyone else using a default nick roo
#4164 [19:41] <Wug> too*
#4165 [19:42] <mib_h6iu55> so when i go on this minecraft server it say internal somthing
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#4167 [19:42] <VoxelHead> bye guest-0-30294
#4168 [19:42] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: its a server error
#4169 [19:42] <mib_h6iu55> and somthing about java
#4170 [19:42] <Wug> nothing we can do about it from your side
#4171 [19:42] <Wug> did your client crash?
#4172 [19:42] <mib_h6iu55> client
#4173 [19:42] <mib_nrvczj> Wug sorry but how?
#4174 [19:42] <Wug> did it say "internal server error?"
#4175 [19:42] <Wug> mib_nrvczj: /nick something
#4176 [19:42] <mib_h6iu55> ya
#4177 [19:43] <mib_nrvczj> now
#4178 [19:43] <mib_h6iu55> why
#4179 [19:43] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: saying internal server error means internal server error
#4180 [19:43] <mib_nrvczj> crap
#4181 [19:43] <Wug> not internal client error
#4182 [19:43] <Wug> its a server issue
#4183 [19:43] <mib_h6iu55> so what do i do
#4184 [19:43] <mib_ylmjzb> dd
#4185 [19:43] <Wug> email the server admin
#4186 [19:43] <mib_ylmjzb> thanks wug anyway
#4187 [19:44] <mib_ylmjzb> you really helpful
#4188 [19:44] <mib_h6iu55> i dont know the server admin
#4189 [19:44] * FIA [FIA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4190 [19:44] <Wug> then find out who he is, or pick a different server
#4191 [19:44] <FIA> Wug I changed it
#4192 [19:44] <Wug> FIA: I dont see whats so hard about typing /nick FIA
#4193 [19:44] <Wug> but whatever
#4194 [19:44] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
#4195 [19:45] <FIA> Wug ok so any ideas of how to fix?
#4196 [19:45] <Wug> FIA: go to https://login.minecraft.net
#4197 [19:45] <mib_h6iu55> when i go on rice think .net it says server in lock down
#4198 [19:45] <Wug> tell me what the page says
#4199 [19:45] <FIA> Wug bad login
#4200 [19:45] <mib_h6iu55> wug
#4201 [19:45] <Wug> ok, craft a url of the following format
#4202 [19:45] <FIA> Wug ok
#4203 [19:46] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: then wait until its not in lockdown
#4204 [19:46] <mib_h6iu55> it says it everytime ive been trying foy 2 months
#4205 [19:46] <FIA> Wug it says bad login...
#4206 [19:47] * ZedTheEvilTaco [ZedTheEvilTaco@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4207 [19:47] <Wug> FIA: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=[username]&password=[password]&version=13
#4208 [19:47] <mib_h6iu55> wug
#4209 [19:47] <ZedTheEvilTaco> yeah, that didn't work
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#4211 [19:47] <Wug> fill in [username] and [password] with your info
#4212 [19:47] <mib_h6iu55> wug are you there
#4213 [19:47] <Wug> ZedTheEvilTaco: do you have a ! in the windows username
#4214 [19:48] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: change your nick
#4215 [19:48] <ZedTheEvilTaco> huh?
#4216 [19:48] <mib_h6iu55> nick?
#4217 [19:48] <Wug> nickname
#4218 [19:48] <FIA> Wug it says 1316075312000:da5829ea8df585ec6f208dbdba6af9f0:F_I_A:8782697303929900958
#4219 [19:48] <mib_h6iu55> nickname as in
#4220 [19:48] <Wug> FIA: its probably your firewall then
#4221 [19:48] <Wug> actually it might be java
#4222 [19:48] <ZedTheEvilTaco> i have no exclamation marks, no
#4223 [19:48] <FIA> Wug its off
#4224 [19:48] <Wug> since you say youve disabled your firewalls
#4225 [19:48] <Wug> FIA: try updating java
#4226 [19:48] <mib_h6iu55> wug
#4227 [19:48] <Wug> :j > FIA
#4228 [19:48] <WugBot> FIA: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#4229 [19:48] <FIA> Wug its updated :D
#4230 [19:49] <Wug> zed was firstr
#4231 [19:49] <Wug> :tv > ZedTheEvilTaco
#4232 [19:49] <WugBot> ZedTheEvilTaco: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#4233 [19:49] <WugBot> ZedTheEvilTaco: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#4234 [19:49] <WugBot> ZedTheEvilTaco: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#4235 [19:49] <mib_h6iu55> ya thats team vewer
#4236 [19:49] <ZedTheEvilTaco> im not sure i like that idea...
#4237 [19:50] <Wug> well then
#4238 [19:50] <Wug> :tv > FIA
#4239 [19:50] <WugBot> FIA: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#4240 [19:50] <WugBot> FIA: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#4241 [19:50] <WugBot> FIA: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#4242 [19:50] <TheNoodle> I'm having a problem..
#4243 [19:50] <TheNoodle> I spawned 8000 silverfish :/
#4244 [19:50] * mib_rsa84e [mib_rsa84e@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4245 [19:50] <Wug> TheNoodle: mcedit -> remove entities
#4246 [19:50] <mib_h6iu55> wug anyone
#4247 [19:50] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: change your nick
#4248 [19:50] <FIA> Wug I got ir
#4249 [19:50] <FIA> Wug I got it*
#4250 [19:50] <mib_h6iu55> what nockname
#4251 [19:51] <TheNoodle> Wug, it was in someones base :p 50+ people are mad at me now....
#4252 [19:51] <Wug> its currently mib_h6iu55, which sucks
#4253 [19:51] * TheNoodle giggles
#4253 [19:51] <mib_h6iu55> why
#4254 [19:51] <FIA> Wug I got the teamviewer
#4255 [19:51] <Wug> FIA: read the rest of the instructions
#4256 [19:51] <mib_h6iu55> wug why
#4257 [19:51] <Wug> mib_h6iu55: because I'll ignore you until you do. sound good?
#4258 [19:51] <mib_h6iu55> ok
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#4261 [19:52] <mib_mss0lo> im back wug
#4262 [19:52] <Wug> thats not what I meant
#4263 [19:52] <Wug> I meant actually pick one
#4264 [19:52] <Wug> like a name
#4265 [19:52] <Wug> with your brain
#4266 [19:52] <Wug> and then type it
#4267 [19:52] <mib_mss0lo> ok ill do stuff as a username
#4268 [19:53] <ZedTheEvilTaco> my problem is described in full detail here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/login_in_to_blackness . Can someone help me play the greatest game since Halo?
#4269 [19:53] <Wug> ZedTheEvilTaco: there are about 10 things that can cause that
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#4271 [19:53] <FIA> Wug I already send u the mssg
#4272 [19:53] <stuff> im back wug
#4273 [19:53] <Wug> FIA: I didnt get it
#4274 [19:53] <Wug> stuff: much better
#4275 [19:54] <ZedTheEvilTaco> and those ten things are...?
#4276 [19:54] <stuff> annnnnnnddddd
#4277 [19:54] <stuff> now what
#4278 [19:54] <stuff> wug
#4279 [19:54] <FIA> Wug I cant send it
#4280 [19:54] <FIA> Wug any other way?
#4281 [19:54] <stuff> wugg
#4282 [19:55] <Wug> ZedTheEvilTaco: it could be a texture pack, a failed mod install, about 5 different issues with java, several driver issues, opengl issues, hardware issues, windows settings issues, and a few other things
#4283 [19:55] <Wug> FIA: you typed the following text? :
#4284 [19:55] <ZedTheEvilTaco> its nothing to do with minecraft. the minecraft folder is empty
#4285 [19:55] <Wug> /msg wug blah blah blah id pass
#4286 [19:55] <stuff> wug
#4287 [19:56] <Wug> ZedTheEvilTaco: then its not a mod install or a texture pack
#4288 [19:56] <stuff> wug!!!
#4289 [19:56] <ZedTheEvilTaco> right
#4290 [19:56] <Wug> stuff: your issue was with the internal server error?
#4291 [19:56] <FIA> Wug did u get it?
#4292 [19:56] <Wug> FIA: I got something
#4293 [19:56] <stuff> yes
#4294 [19:56] <Wug> stuff: are you the server operator?
#4295 [19:57] <stuff> what do you mean
#4296 [19:57] <FIA> Wug start session
#4297 [19:57] <Wug> stuff: do you run the server
#4298 [19:57] <stuff> like own it
#4299 [19:57] <Wug> yes
#4300 [19:57] <stuff> no
#4301 [19:57] <Wug> stuff: then let me explain this to you as unambiguously as possible: THERE IS NOTHING YOU OR I CAN DO
#4302 [19:58] <FIA> Wug start session or u didnt get it
#4303 [19:58] <Wug> I'm connected
#4304 [19:58] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE connected? feel these nipples!
#4305 [19:58] <stuff> well can you fix my lag prob
#4306 [19:58] <FIA> Wug ok I see
#4307 [19:58] <Wug> FIA: show me whats wrong
#4308 [19:58] <stuff> wug
#4309 [19:59] <Wug> and I'm turning your screen resolution down because your connection is really slow -.-
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#4312 [19:59] <Wug> stuff: wait your turn
#4313 [19:59] <stuff> ok
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#4315 [19:59] <checkeredknight> Grey, are you still about?
#4316 [20:00] <FIA> wug ok this is a bit slow
#4317 [20:00] <Wug> uhh crap I cant adjust screen resolution because mac
#4318 [20:00] <Wug> can you turn it down yourself?
#4319 [20:00] <stuff> voxelhead
#4320 [20:00] <Wug> vox is a bot
#4321 [20:00] <checkeredknight> I uninstalled Comodo Firewall but I'm still getting an "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" error.
#4322 [20:00] <Wug> now wait your turn
#4323 [20:01] <stuff> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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#4325 [20:02] <FIA> Wug how?
#4326 [20:02] <Wug> I havent the faintest idea
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#4328 [20:03] <DieFi> hi there
#4329 [20:03] <checkeredknight> Hello
#4330 [20:03] <DieFi> have a problem with minecraft / java memory alocation
#4331 [20:03] <stuff> waitinggggg waitingggg
#4332 [20:04] <DieFi> why is java not able to clear the ram cache when runing minecraft?
#4333 [20:05] <stuff> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#4334 [20:05] <Wug> :ts/launcher > fia
#4335 [20:05] <WugBot> fia: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#4336 [20:05] <WugBot> fia: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#4337 [20:05] <VoxelHead> *gasp* it's got chicken legs :-)
#4338 [20:05] <Wug> FIA: download and run that
#4339 [20:05] <stuff> really voxelhead
#4340 [20:05] <Wug> it saves a log file
#4341 [20:06] <stuff> anyone
#4342 [20:07] <stuff> ate you finished wug
#4343 [20:08] <stuff> i mean are you fin
#4344 [20:08] <Wug> stuff: I cant fix the server error
#4345 [20:08] <stuff> qa]mpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpmpd
#4346 [20:08] <Wug> unless the server owner asks me for help
#4347 [20:08] <stuff> his name is
#4348 [20:08] <Wug> and dont act like you're 10
#4349 [20:08] <stuff> im 11
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#4351 [20:09] <stuff> should i pm you
#4352 [20:09] <Wug> it doesnt matter
#4353 [20:09] <Wug> as I said
#4354 [20:09] <Wug> there is absolutely nothing I can do about it
#4355 [20:09] <stuff> it sean rice
#4356 [20:09] <Wug> I cant contact people by their minecraft usernames
#4357 [20:09] <oreo> do servers cost money?
#4358 [20:09] <Wug> or their real names
#4359 [20:09] <Wug> we're not mojang staff
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#4361 [20:10] <Wug> oreo: you can run them yourself for free, but professionally hosted ones typically do
#4362 [20:10] <checkeredknight> Oreo; You can host a server on your own computer if you like, that's free.
#4363 [20:10] <Wug> checkeredknight: what did you need
#4364 [20:10] <oreo> how do i do it
#4365 [20:10] <stuff> can is show what most servers do tho on reamvewer
#4366 [20:10] <mib_7ktuxe> ohelp minecraft keeps turning off when i put my user name and passwors
#4367 [20:10] <Wug> stuff: fine
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#4369 [20:10] <stuff> ok pm
#4370 [20:10] <Wug> mib_7ktuxe: are you on a mac
#4371 [20:11] <mib_7ktuxe> no
#4372 [20:11] <mib_7ktuxe> pc
#4373 [20:11] <Wug> :dx > mib_7ktuxe
#4374 [20:11] <WugBot> mib_7ktuxe: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4375 [20:11] <WugBot> mib_7ktuxe: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4376 [20:12] <checkeredknight> Wug: I popped in earlier and GreyVulpine kindly game me some advice. I bought Minecraft today but whenever I attempt to log in on my computer I get a "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" error. I've tried logging into a friends account from my PC too and the same problem occurs. It's strange because it works fine on my old computer... just not this one.
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#4378 [20:12] <Wug> checkeredknight: ill teamviewer you next
#4379 [20:12] <Wug> :tv > checkeredknight
#4380 [20:12] <WugBot> checkeredknight: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#4381 [20:12] <WugBot> checkeredknight: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#4382 [20:12] <WugBot> checkeredknight: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#4383 [20:12] <Wug> follow those instructions and i'll notify you when I'm ready to connect
#4384 [20:13] <Wug> nvm, stuff has quit randomly.
#4385 [20:13] <checkeredknight> I'm usually quite against these remote assistance things; is it safe? Cheers for the help by the way.
#4386 [20:13] <Wug> I couldnt possibly have been that irritating when I was 11
#4387 [20:13] <Wug> its perfectly safe
#4388 [20:13] <checkeredknight> Haha.
#4389 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Prepare yourselves for destruction.
#4390 [20:14] <Wug> as long as you follow the part about private messaging me the id and pass
#4391 [20:14] <Wug> and disregard voxelhead, hes a bot
#4392 [20:14] <F_I_A> Wug hey what happened to my minecraft file and all that
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#4394 [20:14] <checkeredknight> Okay mate, no worries.
#4395 [20:14] <XxXuriXxX12> Hello. I still have my problem with my Minecraft
#4396 [20:14] <Wug> who sayd random (and sometimes very nsfw) things
#4397 [20:14] <Wug> F_I_A: your "minecraft file"?
#4398 [20:14] <Wug> you mean save files?
#4399 [20:15] <F_I_A> Wug after the thing u told me to download, if I type "minecraft" in spotlght nothining appears
#4400 [20:15] <F_I_A> Wug nothing*
#4401 [20:15] <Wug> I have no idea
#4402 [20:16] <Wug> it doesnt remove the old launcher, its just a modified copy of the launcher that saves a logfile
#4403 [20:16] <XxXuriXxX12> Wug a question
#4404 [20:16] <Wug> the mac probably deleted it on its own for no reason. wouldnt be the first time ive seen that happen
#4405 [20:16] <Wug> XxXuriXxX12: fire
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#4407 [20:16] <Erminias> Hello.
#4408 [20:17] <XxXuriXxX12> I have a problem with the Minecraft
#4409 [20:17] <ZedTheEvilTaco> get in line
#4410 [20:17] <XxXuriXxX12> I open the. exe and after I put all the black tab
#4411 [20:17] <Erminias> Can someone help me with something?
#4412 [20:19] <checkeredknight> :ts/launcher
#4413 [20:19] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#4414 [20:19] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#4415 [20:19] <VoxelHead> aw... i wanted to nail
#4416 [20:20] <XxXuriXxX12> can you help me??
#4417 [20:21] <Erminias> Urgh
#4418 [20:22] <Erminias> Ever since the 1.8.1 patch, my minecraft client crashes everytime I play minecraft for a minute or two.
#4419 [20:22] <Erminias> Could someone help me?
#4420 [20:23] <XxXuriXxX12> ami just put in my Minecraft login it gives me the black tab
#4421 [20:24] <Erminias> Nevermind, I'll just cope with the problem and come back later.
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#4423 [20:24] <checkeredknight> :javara
#4424 [20:24] <checkeredknight> ?? javara
#4425 [20:25] <checkeredknight> ?? win/javara
#4426 [20:25] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#4427 [20:25] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#4428 [20:25] <VoxelHead> Well, i like them ^_^
#4429 [20:26] <judoka> Got a problem, anyone willing to try and take on the task?
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#4431 [20:29] <checkeredknight> /query wug
#4432 [20:30] <Wug> :j
#4433 [20:30] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#4434 [20:36] <oreo> can u give me a link to make a free server
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#4436 [20:37] <oreo> can u give me a link to make a free server
#4437 [20:37] <XxXuriXxX12> The link is in minecraft.net in the Download Section
#4438 [20:38] <XxXuriXxX12> anyone can help me with my problem starting Minecraft??
#4439 [20:38] <mib_3yyytv> when i start minecraft i get the error message: address family not supported by protocol family can someone help
#4440 [20:39] <XxXuriXxX12> I put login and I get all the tab saying bad error when you install or modify a mod but nad
#4441 [20:39] <XxXuriXxX12> a
#4442 [20:39] <XxXuriXxX12> nothing
#4443 [20:39] <XxXuriXxX12> *
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#4446 [20:41] <checkeredknight> Oreo: This helped me out when looking at how to set up a Minecraft server from your PC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtMj2cGnkB0)
#4447 [20:41] <stuff> wug
#4448 [20:41] <stuff> are you there
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#4450 [20:43] <judoka> Ive been having problems, anyone willing to help?
#4451 [20:43] <stuff> anyone
#4452 [20:43] <stuff> is wug still on
#4453 [20:43] <judoka> no, wug is not on
#4454 [20:44] <Wug> stuff: read your goddamn pms
#4455 [20:44] <Wug> and stop coming then going
#4456 [20:44] <Wug> have 10 seconds worth of patience please
#4457 [20:44] <stuff> ok butt i cam pm now
#4458 [20:44] <brose> hey all - just a quick question, is there a current issue with minecraft.net logins?
#4459 [20:44] <stuff> pm now
#4460 [20:44] <brose> or logging in via client?
#4461 [20:45] <stuff> i can not pm you
#4462 [20:45] <judoka> brose: i have no problems logging in
#4463 [20:45] <stuff> wug i cant pm you
#4464 [20:46] <Wug> yes you cvan
#4465 [20:46] <brose> hrmm ok - thanks - it might be my client then
#4466 [20:46] <stuff> well every time it wont let me
#4467 [20:47] <stuff> ca you pm me
#4468 [20:47] <Wug> I did
#4469 [20:47] <stuff> i cant
#4470 [20:47] <Wug> check the pms
#4471 [20:47] <stuff> how
#4472 [20:47] <Wug> in the tab at the goddamn top
#4473 [20:47] <Wug> with my f*cking name on it
#4474 [20:48] <judoka> lol
#4475 [20:49] * Wug sets ban on *metrocast*
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#4477 [20:50] <judoka> Hey, would anyone here mind helping me with my problem?
#4478 [20:51] <Hisui> Don't ask to ask, just ask
#4479 [20:51] <Hisui> That sentence should be in the topic, btw
#4480 [20:51] * Hisui slaps Wug around a bit with a large trout
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#4483 [20:51] <judoka> lol
#4484 [20:52] <judoka> So I have been having problems on my server. It runs at less than 1fps for just me. Other servers run fine for me, singleplayer runs fine for me, my server runs fin for everyone else
#4485 [20:52] <judoka> any ideas
#4486 [20:52] <checkeredknight> :j
#4487 [20:52] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
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#4490 [20:53] <judoka> And I do have a current version of java
#4491 [20:53] <quiggle> i have been having trouble with minecraft the servers keep crashing
#4492 [20:53] <quiggle> any idea how to fix it?
#4493 [20:54] <quiggle> and i plain out cant play multiplayer
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#4495 [20:54] <Sasquatch> I have a server problem.
#4496 [20:54] <Valerie> quiggle
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#4498 [20:55] <Valerie> do you have torrents running?
#4499 [20:55] <Valerie> b, how much memory do you allocate to the server
#4500 [20:55] <Sasquatch> I've started a server on my computer, and my friend is getting packet error 72
#4501 [20:55] <Sasquatch> 121 mb
#4502 [20:55] <quiggle> i have no clue.. i am like in jr high
#4503 [20:55] <Sasquatch> no torrents
#4504 [20:55] <quiggle> so i dont know what your saying
#4505 [20:56] <Carharttjimmy> That doesnt sound like enough memory @ Sasquatch
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#4507 [20:56] <Sasquatch> How do I allocate more memory?
#4508 [20:56] <Carharttjimmy> are you using server.exe file?
#4509 [20:56] <Sasquatch> Yes.
#4510 [20:57] <Sasquatch> My 25565 port is open, too
#4511 [20:57] <Carharttjimmy> Well, I know how to allocate in Linux, have you tried checking the forums for this error?
#4512 [20:57] <Sasquatch> I have, many a google. I tried everything google said.
#4513 [20:57] <Sasquatch> Nothing is working.
#4514 [20:57] <Carharttjimmy> hmm, and packet error 72
#4515 [20:57] <Sasquatch> Yes.
#4516 [20:58] <Carharttjimmy> Tell him to quit his client and try again
#4517 [20:58] <Sasquatch> kk
#4518 [20:58] <judoka> So no idea on why multiplayer would run slowly on one server for just me?
#4519 [20:58] <Carharttjimmy> I have an idea, have you updated your java?
#4520 [20:58] <Sasquatch> I will do that. If you were talking to me
#4521 [20:59] <Sasquatch> use @ssas
#4522 [20:59] <Sasquatch> *@sas
#4523 [20:59] <Sasquatch> Brb
#4524 [20:59] <Carharttjimmy> I know how to speak in Irc lol, I am a Linux man. ;) And, I was speaking to judoka
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#4526 [21:02] <judoka> Cartharttjimmy: Yes
#4527 [21:06] <Sasquatch> Ok Im back
#4528 [21:08] <Carharttjimmy> judoka what is your ramusuage?
#4529 [21:08] <Sasquatch> My java is updated
#4530 [21:08] <Sasquatch> lol
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#4532 [21:09] <Carharttjimmy> alright
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#4534 [21:09] <judoka> The ram is about using less than 30ish %
#4535 [21:09] <Carharttjimmy> still any errors Sasquatch?
#4536 [21:09] <Carharttjimmy> what OS judoka?
#4537 [21:10] <judoka> Windows7
#4538 [21:10] <judoka> Singleplayer works fine. Multiplayer on other servers work fine. My server works fine for any other player on it.
#4539 [21:10] <judoka> It its not a connection issue. It doesnt seem to be a resources issue.
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#4541 [21:11] <judoka> Its*
#4542 [21:11] <Carharttjimmy> hmm, I see judoka, hmm
#4543 [21:11] <judoka> I honestly have no clue what it would be
#4544 [21:12] <judoka> It allows me to login just fine
#4545 [21:12] <judoka> but is super slow
#4546 [21:12] <Sasquatch> Yes, car. There are errors
#4547 [21:13] <Sasquatch> I'm gonna allocate memory
#4548 [21:13] <Sasquatch> via google searches
#4549 [21:14] <neersighted> j:
#4550 [21:14] <Carharttjimmy> Might be a server error
#4551 [21:14] <Carharttjimmy> I mean to say as in there might be a bug
#4552 [21:14] <judoka> Well, what is weird is that it just isnt on my computer
#4553 [21:15] <judoka> I have logged in on a friends computer under my account and its the same problem
#4554 [21:15] <judoka> but they log in with their account and it runs fine
#4555 [21:16] <Carharttjimmy> Is your account premenium?
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#4557 [21:16] <judoka> What does premium mean, did I pay for it?
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#4559 [21:17] <judoka> If so, yes, I paid.
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#4561 [21:17] <jay> hi, question if I may - any links to setting up a server so that new users cannot place / destroy blocks until given permission to do so ... I've been googling for about an hour now and still not sure what to do
#4562 [21:18] <oreo> does anyone no a good server ip
#4563 [21:18] <judoka> Jay, I could definitely be wrong, but I think that is what the whitelist is for
#4564 [21:19] <Carharttjimmy> jay, bukkit
#4565 [21:19] <oreo> does anyone no a good server ip
#4566 [21:19] <Carharttjimmy> This is not the place oreo for that question.
#4567 [21:19] <oreo> ok
#4568 [21:20] <oreo> do u know a website that i could find some
#4569 [21:20] <judoka> Carharttjimmy: If there was a bug, it definitely choose a weird time to appear. It was working fine for...well forever. Then I started it up and it stopped. It wasnt even after an update. It worked with 1.8.1 and we havent updated to the 1.9 pre-release
#4570 [21:20] <jay> have bukkit .. been playing with group manager but cant seem to set default correctly
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#4572 [21:21] <oreo> do u know a website that i could find some servers
#4573 [21:21] <Aubrie> I keep getting the "bad video card drivers" message whenever i try to play, when will this be fixed? everything is up to date.
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#4575 [21:23] <oreo> i cant connect to any servers
#4576 [21:25] <squiggy> I try to play the single (classic) free mode and internet explorer keeps kicking me out before it even has a chance to run
#4577 [21:25] <judoka> Try using something other than internet explorer?
#4578 [21:26] <squiggy> no
#4579 [21:26] <squiggy> I havent yet
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#4581 [21:26] <judoka> Well, Internet Explorer isnt a very good browser, so that is a simple suggestion that could help
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#4583 [21:28] <squiggy> thanks! thats it... it works in safari
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#4585 [21:29] <judoka> Future reference, Internet Explorer is awful
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#4588 [21:33] <darkkrai> when I attempt to run minecraft on my 64-bit linux system, I get the following error -> http://pastesite.com/26401
#4589 [21:33] <darkkrai> I'm using the sun jdk/jre 7 of course
#4590 [21:36] <Sasquatch> For future reference, google chrome is master race
#4591 [21:36] <judoka> He is gone
#4592 [21:40] <Sasquatch> Well whatever
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#4597 [21:55] <guest-0-04529> When I go to update frm 1.81 to 1.91 I just remove all files in my .jar file and replace with all files from the 1.91 zip file correct?
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#4601 [21:59] <LR> Hey for some reason it won't let me log in, it says I'm "not premium member" even though I've purchased the game and have recently changed password and able to log into website
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#4603 [22:00] <guest-0-04529> ya it freezes for me to
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#4605 [22:03] <LR> so no help for log in fail despite correct info?
#4606 [22:04] <axemaster> Hi, I am unable to login to the game. I bought the game quite some time ago, but when I enter my username and password it says the login failed... I am still able to login to the minecraft website. What the heck is going on here?
#4607 [22:04] * mib_7k7cez [mib_7k7cez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4608 [22:06] <judoka> It is probably a connection with the minecraft server
#4609 [22:06] <judoka> LR and axemaster are having the same problem
#4610 [22:06] <LR> My brother is able to log in on his at the same house
#4611 [22:06] <judoka> Eh, sorry, dont know what to tell you
#4612 [22:06] <mib_7k7cez> hello i have a question about minecraft
#4613 [22:06] <mib_7k7cez> when i start to play it doesnt work
#4614 [22:06] <mib_7k7cez> i have bought the game
#4615 [22:07] <axemaster> Who should we talk to about this? Do you think Mojang can help? Or are we screwed?
#4616 [22:07] <mib_7k7cez> i click on it and it doesnt bring up the login screen
#4617 [22:07] <mib_7k7cez> oh...
#4618 [22:07] <mib_7k7cez> hmmmm
#4619 [22:07] <mib_7k7cez> it lets me play it on a different user but all my save files are on this one
#4620 [22:08] <mib_7k7cez> well ill try getting info on it thanks anyway
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#4623 [22:13] <axemaster> huh, i just redownloaded the client and ran it, and it allowed me to login - using the exact same credentials. So something is wrong with the old client that is preventing the login from succeeding.
#4624 [22:13] <Kaito> my friends had that problem with 1.8
#4625 [22:15] <axemaster> interesting
#4626 [22:15] <axemaster> i wonder why it does that... very odd
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#4628 [22:21] <judoka> My account goes really slowly on one server and one server only, but that server works normally for everyone else. Now that is weird.
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#4630 [22:22] <mib_7k7cez> anybody find out what happened about the not being able to download minecraft
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#4633 [22:30] <McJboi> Hey guys, can anyone help in answering how to play this Multiplayer? only tweaked with singleplayer thus far.
#4634 [22:31] <Ketsueki> It's more or less exactly the same as single player.
#4635 [22:34] <McJboi> Yeah, thought it would be fun if i could find a small community and work together.
#4636 [22:35] <McJboi> Just having loads of difficulties in finding a server, apparently a large amount of players have abused free access so most seem private
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#4638 [22:38] <VoxelHead> mmm Mcjboi
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#4640 [22:41] <fuogo> hello?
#4641 [22:43] * fuogo [fuogo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4642 [22:43] <fuogo> hello
#4643 [22:44] <fuogo> i need help
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#4646 [22:50] <oreo> i cant join any servers
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#4648 [22:54] <oreo> when i try to join any server it says bad login
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#4650 [22:54] <rukuartic> Any idea how to revert to the 1.7.3 client?
#4651 [22:57] <Ryladine> rukiartic: Why would you want to?
#4652 [22:58] <Ryladine> oreo: How many servers have you tried?
#4653 [22:58] * iownall555 [iownall555@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4654 [22:58] <oreo> about 30
#4655 [22:59] <oreo> they used to work
#4656 [22:59] <Ryladine> oreo: Have you tried restarting your client? There is an ocasional glitch and restarting fixes it.
#4657 [23:00] <rukuartic> Ryladine: Old server on 1.7.3
#4658 [23:00] <rukuartic> Maps don't upgrade, do they?
#4659 [23:01] <Ryladine> rukaurtic: Not by themselves no, though there are ways to do it.
#4660 [23:01] <rukuartic> Rather, here's an easier question. I was running a server on 1.7.3. If I upgraded the server to 1.8.1, would the maps still be ok?
#4661 [23:01] <oreo> how do i do it
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#4663 [23:01] <rukuartic> Ah. Fudge...
#4664 [23:01] <Ryladine> Rukaurtic: yes, 1.7.3 maps can run on a 1.8 server.
#4665 [23:01] * rukuartic starts googling...
#4665 [23:01] <bernard> hey
#4666 [23:02] <oreo> how do i restart client
#4667 [23:02] <Ryladine> Rukartic: but they will be missing the features.
#4668 [23:02] <bernard> oreo wut up?
#4669 [23:02] <Ryladine> oreo: just close and open it.
#4670 [23:02] <Ryladine> Hello benard.
#4671 [23:02] <oreo> did that
#4672 [23:03] <bernard> i know voxel remmembasme :D
#4673 [23:03] <bernard> :P
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#4675 [23:03] * rukuartic will be ok with that, just wants to keep his map!
#4675 [23:03] <Ryladine> oreo: Give me a moment and I'm going to /msg you an IP, just to be absolutely certain it's not the servers you are trying to join oreo.
#4676 [23:03] <Fragmaster> MinCraft ran out of memory
#4677 [23:03] <Fragmaster> I have 8GB of RAM and running no other programs
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#4679 [23:04] <Fragmaster> It hasn't been a problem since 1.8 pre-release
#4680 [23:04] <Fragmaster> Can someone suggest a solution to this error?
#4681 [23:04] <Ryladine> frag: try launching minecraft with more memory via a .bat
#4682 [23:05] <Ryladine> Frag: Start by upping it to running on 2gb
#4683 [23:05] <Fragmaster> Ryladine How do?
#4684 [23:05] <oreo> what do i do
#4685 [23:06] <Ryladine> oreo: try connecting to the IP I sent you VIA msg
#4686 [23:06] <Fragmaster> Ryladine How are I to do teh 2gb?
#4687 [23:07] <Ryladine> frag: Do you know how to make a .bat?
#4688 [23:07] <Fragmaster> Can winRAR do it?
#4689 [23:07] <oreo> what ip
#4690 [23:07] <Ryladine> frag: make a text document save it as filename.bat
#4691 [23:07] <Ryladine> frag: put this in the text document: java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar minecraft.jar
#4692 [23:08] <Ryladine> Frag: Then put it in your file with your minecraft.jar and doubleclick it
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#4694 [23:08] <Ryladine> oreo: try connecting to ryladine.info
#4695 [23:09] <Fragmaster> Ryladine Done
#4696 [23:09] * guest-671113-55832 [guest-671113-55832@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4697 [23:09] <guest-671113-55832> does the minecraft server work with 1.9 ?
#4698 [23:09] <Ryladine> fragmaster: try running MC with that, and see if it happens again.
#4699 [23:10] <Ryladine> guest: if the server has been updated to the pre-release yes, if not, no.
#4700 [23:10] <guest-671113-55832> Anyone want to assist me with setting up a server in return for.... server access O.o or somthing lol
#4701 [23:10] <Ryladine> guest: Give me a few minutes to finish helping these two and I can.
#4702 [23:11] <guest-671113-55832> np il lcheck back in 10
#4703 [23:11] <Ryladine> oreo: have you tried connecting?
#4704 [23:12] <Ryladine> oreo: If you do not respond I will assume your not there and move on to helping other people.
#4705 [23:13] <Ryladine> guest: It seems I can help you now, frag is just waiting to see if my fix worked, and if it did he won't be back.
#4706 [23:13] <Ryladine> guest: What part of making the server are you having problems on?
#4707 [23:13] <guest-671113-55832> wll so far none technically
#4708 [23:13] <guest-671113-55832> I haven't attempted it yet
#4709 [23:14] <Ryladine> guest: Can I ask you to set a name with the /nick NICKNAME command?
#4710 [23:14] <guest-671113-55832> when I dl the minecraft server file to desktop where exactly and how exactly do I save it
#4711 [23:14] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#4712 [23:15] <Ryladine> Hush voxelhead XD
#4713 [23:15] <Daihak> I have never attempted to host a server before so this will be a bit interesting but I'm not a dimwit I picked up how to change files and replace as well as pathing and MSQL fairly easily but I am new to this
#4714 [23:15] <Ryladine> Daihak: You can save the file anywhere, but for ease of access I would suggest a folder called "server" on your desktop.
#4715 [23:16] <Daihak> it does not have to be within a minecraft folder at all?
#4716 [23:16] <Ryladine> Daihak: No, it can be places anywhere and still run fine.
#4717 [23:16] <Daihak> alright I will DL it quick
#4718 [23:16] <Ryladine> placed*
#4719 [23:17] <Ryladine> Daihak: When you finish download the file and placing it in a folder make a .bat in the same folder with the following line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#4720 [23:18] <Ryladine> downloading*
#4721 [23:18] * Ryladine slaps himself for having so many typo's
#4721 [23:19] <Daihak> now is where I will need some guidance I can save the file to a *Minecraft Server* regular file on desktop but i am unfamiliar with file types I do not know what a .bat file type is or how to create that type of file within my new folder
#4722 [23:20] <Daihak> I alsways type faster then my grammar wants to keep up with me as well :D I often fine myslef doing thsi because i get ahead of myself
#4723 [23:20] <Ryladine> Diahak: Thats fine, in essense a .bat is just a text document windows treats dirrently because of the file extension.
#4724 [23:20] <Daihak> must learn to pace myself haha
#4725 [23:20] <Ryladine> Diahak: Do you have file extensions enabled?
#4726 [23:20] <Daihak> ok thats what I figured just a wordpad or micro word document with that save name
#4727 [23:20] <Ryladine> Diahak: ex, when you look at a text document's filename does it say name.txr
#4728 [23:20] <Ryladine> txt*
#4729 [23:21] <Daihak> well hold up I'm trying to refind the link to get the server folder lol I'm getting ahead of myself again I swear it was just of the main minecraft.net page
#4730 [23:21] <Ryladine> minecraft.net/downloads I believe
#4731 [23:22] <Ryladine> Ah
#4732 [23:22] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#4733 [23:22] <Ryladine> no s
#4734 [23:22] <Ryladine> XD
#4735 [23:22] <Ryladine> oh be quiet voxelhead, we're the only ones talking, theres no need to chastise me for that right now.
#4736 [23:22] * VoxelHead talks to DopeGhoti instead
#4736 [23:23] <Fragmaster> Ryladine Thanks, I think your batch file swap worked.
#4737 [23:24] <Ryladine> fragmaster: Your welcome, it's what I'm here for.
#4738 [23:24] <Daihak> hmm well I went to the forum home page and just dled the update file for server hosts
#4739 [23:24] <Daihak> I figured that would be the full deal
#4740 [23:25] <Daihak> and unzipped it into a desktop folder
#4741 [23:25] <Ryladine> Daihak: you can find the server files here, it's simpler if I know you have the correct files.
#4742 [23:25] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#4743 [23:25] <Daihak> ok
#4744 [23:25] <Ryladine> Before you download it, how do you prefer to run it?
#4745 [23:26] <Ryladine> With a GUI interface, or without? Using it without requires less power from the server.
#4746 [23:26] <Ryladine> Depedning on your choice, download the .exe for the GUI, and the .jar for without, please let me know which you choose
#4747 [23:27] <Daihak> well I dled your link and it gave me a minecraft icon and when i ran it it booted up a load file of some sort
#4748 [23:27] <Daihak> in a java runtime box
#4749 [23:27] <Daihak> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1
#4750 [23:28] <Ryladine> Ah, so you got it starting then?
#4751 [23:28] <Daihak> [INFO] Loading properties
#4752 [23:28] <Daihak> etc etc
#4753 [23:28] <Ryladine> I don't need to see that, just let me know if it says anything starting with [warning] or [severe]
#4754 [23:28] <Daihak> it goes through a spawn load sequence and says done
#4755 [23:29] <Daihak> level 0 spawn load and level 1 spawn load
#4756 [23:29] <Daihak> the only warning i see
#4757 [23:29] <Daihak> is a fail to load a ban list ip ban list white list
#4758 [23:29] <Ryladine> Now, do you know how to portforward? As well as how to make exceptions for any firewalls you run?
#4759 [23:29] * VoxelHead is back
#4759 [23:29] <Ryladine> Yes, it will generate any files it needs that it can't find.
#4760 [23:30] <Daihak> I have unblocked ports for warcraft 3 hosting before but other then that I have very basic understanding of firewall and how to unblock specific ports and programs yes
#4761 [23:30] <Ryladine> Well, the only port you will need to forward is 25565
#4762 [23:30] <Daihak> by forward you mean open that port for the minecraft game correct in my windows firewall?
#4763 [23:31] <Ryladine> From there all you will have to do is make sure your firewall does not interfere with connections to java, or the server's jar file.
#4764 [23:31] <Ryladine> No, I mean allowing it through your router's firewall.
#4765 [23:31] <Daihak> no router here just Bell modem unless ts built in
#4766 [23:31] <Ryladine> That would depend, lets do a test and find out if there will be any problems, do you know your IP?
#4767 [23:32] <Daihak> 192.168.2.1
#4768 [23:32] <Daihak> or is that a universal >?
#4769 [23:32] <Ryladine> Ah, thats an internal IP, but please don't say it here, use /msg ryladine IP next time.
#4770 [23:32] <Daihak> roger ^^
#4771 [23:32] <Ryladine> Get your external IP from http://whatismyip.com/
#4772 [23:32] <TheNytangel> ;ip Daihak
#4773 [23:32] <WugBot> IP address of Daihak is: 70.48.160.165
#4774 [23:33] <TheNytangel> Done
#4775 [23:33] * TheNytangel flees
#4775 [23:33] <Daihak> lol
#4776 [23:33] <Ryladine> Lol
#4777 [23:33] <Daihak> see i cant hide it from these sneeky hackers anyway :D
#4778 [23:33] <Ryladine> I try not to get that information into the IRC lol
#4779 [23:33] <Ryladine> well... if I had been thinking I could have gotten it as well...
#4780 [23:33] <Ryladine> lol
#4781 [23:33] <Daihak> sneaky hackers stealing my mounds of money and epic military files D:
#4782 [23:33] <TheNytangel> Ryladine, /whois Daihak, then find the IP :P
#4783 [23:34] <Daihak> hey make me a diablo 3 beta key
#4784 [23:34] <Ryladine> Yeah, like I said if I had been thinking XD
#4785 [23:34] <Daihak> lol
#4786 [23:34] <TheNytangel> Please wait
#4787 [23:34] <Daihak> lawl
#4788 [23:34] <Daihak> I would pay alot of money for a beta key ^^
#4789 [23:34] <Daihak> like hundreds
#4790 [23:34] <Ryladine> lol
#4791 [23:34] <Daihak> legit i swear
#4792 [23:34] <Daihak> lol
#4793 [23:34] <Ryladine> Ffff I updated my graphics and it moved all my icons
#4794 [23:35] <Daihak> ok anyway I gotta get my head back into the issue
#4795 [23:35] <Ryladine> Theres only 150+ to dig through...
#4796 [23:35] <Ryladine> Yes, give me a moment.
#4797 [23:35] <Daihak> so I have this executable download file you linked me to
#4798 [23:35] <Daihak> that boots up some sort of file
#4799 [23:35] <Ryladine> Yes, your server is running now.
#4800 [23:35] <Ryladine> Give me a moment please.
#4801 [23:35] <Daihak> moments up ok so
#4802 [23:35] <Daihak> lol
#4803 [23:36] <Daihak> I feel I am pushing my luck O.o
#4804 [23:36] <Ryladine> Alight, your server is not going to let me in, so there is something in the way. Can you please disable your firewall for a moment so we can see if thats the only thing blocking me?
#4805 [23:37] <Ryladine> I would assume we will need to portforward, but lets start with the simple steps first.
#4806 [23:37] <Daihak> its off
#4807 [23:37] <Daihak> i imagine bell has created some very annoying blocks
#4808 [23:37] <Daihak> i always had to unblock like 4 differnt areas to host games on wc3
#4809 [23:38] <Ryladine> Yes, it would seem so, Do you remember how to access the correct area of your modem?
#4810 [23:38] <Daihak> eh the only thing i kow is the ip to go to a browser and manipulate some things from there
#4811 [23:38] <Daihak> know*
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#4813 [23:39] <Daihak> are you 1.8 or 1.9 though cause its a 1.8 server i havent updated it yet
#4814 [23:39] <Ryladine> Yes, that would be the correct place. Can you get me the brand and model of your modem so I be sure I give you the correct instruction?
#4815 [23:39] <Ryladine> I do not update to pre-releases.
#4816 [23:39] <Daihak> ok
#4817 [23:40] <Daihak> then server is right for you however my client version ia 1.9 could that cause a hosting issue?
#4818 [23:40] <Daihak> since server is 1.8
#4819 [23:40] <Ryladine> No, thats fine, the server does not interact with your client at all unless you try to connect to it.
#4820 [23:40] <Daihak> 2701HG-G Gateway
#4821 [23:41] <Ryladine> The model was comcast?
#4822 [23:41] <Daihak> Serial number:
#4823 [23:41] <Ryladine> brand*
#4824 [23:41] <Daihak> 290711053237
#4825 [23:42] <Daihak> comcast O.o
#4826 [23:42] <Daihak> I see nothing saying comcast anything
#4827 [23:42] <Ryladine> Lets make sure I have found the correct firmware, at the middle of the screen, on the left, is there a box labeled "Network at a Glance" ?
#4828 [23:43] <Ryladine> And an icon with the word BELL under it in the top left corner?
#4829 [23:44] <Daihak> sorry im not seeing that I have a homepage that comes up under the dynamic ip and gives me some tab options
#4830 [23:44] <Daihak> Homes ettings and site map
#4831 [23:44] <Daihak> settings*
#4832 [23:44] <Ryladine> Hm, Do any of them say something like "virtual servers" or "port forwardinng" ?
#4833 [23:44] <Daihak> within settings there is a firewal ltab
#4834 [23:45] <Ryladine> Go to that, and see if there is an area to portforward, if you can't find it would you be against using teamviewer so I can help you locate what you need?
#4835 [23:46] <Daihak> well I do online banking so that scares me a tad
#4836 [23:46] <Daihak> ;p
#4837 [23:46] <Daihak> and paypal and junk but i imagine if somone really wanted to they could get that info anyway
#4838 [23:46] <Silent_Samurai> Doing online banking scares me a tad.
#4839 [23:47] <Daihak> well I havent got much to lose haha
#4840 [23:47] <VoxelHead> The latest plan is about to explode!
#4841 [23:47] <Ryladine> Lol, thats fine. I wouldn't touch anything but the one page, but I undestand. We can do it the hard way then.
#4842 [23:47] <Daihak> and I have balance protection
#4843 [23:47] <Ryladine> I said to be quiet voxelhead!
#4844 [23:47] <VoxelHead> hai!
#4845 [23:47] <Silent_Samurai> Send a screenshot of the screen
#4846 [23:47] <Daihak> just wait 50 years we will all have barcodes tatood on our hans and swipe our hand to get paid and make purchases
#4847 [23:47] <Daihak> hands*
#4848 [23:48] <Ryladine> Hmm that would work as well, but I would be afraid to post a screenshot of a modem's page online just incase any identifying information is on the page.
#4849 [23:48] <Silent_Samurai> Herm
#4850 [23:48] <Ryladine> It's fine, give me a moment to try to find your model again
#4851 [23:48] <Daihak> well i have some possibly helpful looking links here
#4852 [23:49] <Daihak> what is DHCP server
#4853 [23:49] <Ryladine> That could be what your looking for, I don't know anything about your firmware so it could possibly be under that.
#4854 [23:49] <Daihak> omg
#4855 [23:49] <Ryladine> Check it, what your looking for is going to be a place to input atleast 2 different pieces of information.
#4856 [23:49] <Daihak> i can change my ip adress at will with this
#4857 [23:50] <Daihak> ill never be banned from dota again HUZZAH
#4858 [23:50] <Ryladine> Lol, you can with most routers, if you have a dynamic IP restarting one is all it takes.
#4859 [23:50] <Daihak> not really sure what dynamic ip means but i know when i get banne dit sticks -_-
#4860 [23:50] <Daihak> but i dont have a router unless its internal to the modem
#4861 [23:51] <TheNytangel> Breast milk + tobasco?
#4862 [23:51] <Daihak> interesting combo
#4863 [23:51] <Ryladine> Lol modem, router, for most personal purposes it's the same thing under a different name.
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#4865 [23:51] <Daihak> it gives me the option to disable or change firewal lsettings for each of my comps
#4866 [23:51] <Daihak> as well as ip changes
#4867 [23:52] <Ryladine> Go to the firewall settings.
#4868 [23:52] <Daihak> Public-private NAT mappings and device IP allocation
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#4870 [23:52] <Ryladine> Hmm
#4871 [23:52] <Ryladine> Check public-private
#4872 [23:53] <Daihak> i have some enhanced security and attack detection
#4873 [23:53] <Daihak> options
#4874 [23:53] <Daihak> check boxes
#4875 [23:53] <Ryladine> Hmmm
#4876 [23:54] <Daihak> udp tcp block stealth
#4877 [23:54] <Ryladine> Ah
#4878 [23:54] <Ryladine> udp tcp!
#4879 [23:54] <Ophelia> can anyone help me with my lack of cows, my world spawned no cows
#4880 [23:54] <Daihak> port scans
#4881 [23:54] <Daihak> ICMP detection
#4882 [23:54] <Ryladine> Are there boxes to input information near where it says UDP and TCP or are they links?
#4883 [23:55] <Daihak> they are just check boxes that give some options like session control timeout input port scans
#4884 [23:55] <TheNytangel> ?? smp/port
#4885 [23:55] <VoxelHead> smp/port: TCP port 25565
#4886 [23:55] <Daihak> acually i can input timout
#4887 [23:55] <Ryladine> Hmm
#4888 [23:56] <Ryladine> Thats not what your looking for.
#4889 [23:56] <Ryladine> If I can't figure it out soon for you I will have to send you to a site and you will need to find your router's model on it, it will have instructions on how to portforward for you.
#4890 [23:56] <Ryladine> Tell me, is there a logo anywhere on the page?
#4891 [23:56] * TheNytangel` [TheNytangel`@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4892 [23:56] <Ryladine> Something I can use to identify the modem?
#4893 [23:56] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =O.
#4894 [23:57] <TheNytangel> It's ok Vox, I'm right here
#4895 [23:57] <Daihak> 2WIRE
#4896 [23:57] <TheNytangel> But.. wired interwebz :D
#4897 [23:57] * TheNytangel just got inclined to watch a billion youtube videos at once
#4897 [23:57] <Ryladine> lol I've not been nice to vox, I've told it to be quiet about four times now
#4898 [23:57] <Ryladine> Hm
#4899 [23:58] <Ryladine> Can you tell me if this is the pages your looking at?
#4900 [23:58] <lemon-rev> ?? bot
#4901 [23:58] <Ryladine> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-G/Minecraft_Server.htm
#4902 [23:58] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#4903 [23:59] <Ryladine> There is an image a bit down the page
#4904 [23:59] <Ryladine> Yes lemon, I know vox is a bot lol
#4905 [23:59] <VoxelHead> SILENCE%percent�~%percent�%percent^*.
#4906 [23:59] <Daihak> thats my modem however they changed the site layout lol thats outdated
#4907 [23:59] <Ryladine> Ah, that would explain my confusion then.
#4908 [23:59] <Daihak> that is it for sure though
#4909 [23:59] <Ryladine> I would say your ISP put custom firmware on it.
#4910 [23:59] <Wug> HOLY BALLS