#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-31
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#4 [00:11] <Chris> !myip
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#17 [01:29] <guest-552837-75853> Hi, whenever I try to play minecraft, whether it be in the browser or if I click log-in when I open minecraft, it doesn't work. Can someone help me?
#18 [01:32] <Thrae> Haystack: Using Windows?
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#24 [02:09] <Tehrasha> strange framerate problem
#25 [02:10] <Tehrasha> everything was working fine, with 60+ fps, then I changed CPU cores, now I cannot get more than 12fps
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#27 [02:21] <gartral> has the recipie for cake changed?
#28 [02:22] <gartral> Tehrasha: don't use affinities. or do you mean you upgraded cpus?
#29 [02:23] <Tehrasha> i changed from a 2.6GHz quad-core (which worked fine) to a 3.2GHz quad-core
#30 [02:24] <gartral> Tehrasha: Ahh.. I'm willing too bet that the new core has an intergrated GPU. try disableing that in Bios
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#32 [02:30] <Tehrasha> i had to look it up, and they dont have integrated GPU
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#34 [02:30] <Tehrasha> to cover all my mases, i am reinstalling all my motherboard and video drivers
#35 [02:31] <gartral> Tehrasha: good place too start. also, after that power down and make sure your power cables too your GPU are secured.
#36 [02:52] <Tehrasha> weird... i dont know what is going on.
#37 [02:52] <Tehrasha> TF2 and other 3D progs all work fine, but MC actslike I dont have a graphics card
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#41 [02:57] <Calinou> gartral: recipe for cake never changed
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#44 [03:15] <gartral> Calinou: I can't craft cake on my server, 3 buckets milk on top, wheat, egg, wheat in middle. and 3 sugar on bottom
#45 [03:15] <Calinou> does it even show in the result square?
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#47 [03:16] <Calinou> crafting cake in 1.9 works fine, not sure about 1.8
#48 [03:16] <Calinou> possible they disabled the recipe, though unlikely
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#59 [03:56] <hello> erm hello guys i need some help in minecraft. I have not purchased it but am i able to play it unpurchased? When i log on it say that i cant play offline and below it has ''(not downloaded)'' can anyone help?
#60 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> You need a premium account in order for the launcher to download the files for minecraft
#61 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> Without a paid-for, premium account, you will not be able to play minecraft beta
#62 [03:56] <hello> Oh.
#63 [03:56] <hello> ok thanks
#64 [03:57] <hello> I'll try to buy a premium account as soon as i can
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#76 [05:50] <Seaarmy559> Any staff here?
#77 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Mojang staff normally don't hang around here.
#78 [05:50] <Seaarmy559> oh
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#80 [05:51] <Seaarmy559> where can i find them?
#81 [05:51] <Seaarmy559> i would like to report a issue
#82 [05:51] <Showdow> hello
#83 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#84 [05:51] <Showdow> i've a bug
#85 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> Bug reports can go on either getsatisfaction.com/mojang, or the wiki at minecraftwiki
#86 [05:51] <Showdow> thank you
#87 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs
#88 [05:52] <Showdow> und i have a quite big problem
#89 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Showdow - Which is?
#90 [05:52] <Seaarmy559> i want to report a pirate minecraft commnity
#91 [05:52] <Showdow> in new 1.9 pre5 jeb addet this rotation keys
#92 [05:52] <Showdow> *added
#93 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#94 [05:52] <Showdow> they're I J K L and M N and H
#95 [05:52] <Showdow> but he matter is that i've my walking keys on I J K L
#96 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Showdow - Was added as part of a camera orientation thing. It'll be removed
#97 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Showdow - We also don't support pre-releases here. They're buggy pre-releases for a reason
#98 [05:53] <Showdow> can i remove them ?
#99 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Showdow - Not in pre-5
#100 [05:53] <dylanbarberdude> omg Showdow dajavo from yesterday
#101 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Seaarmy559 - Nothing we, nor Mojang can do about it
#102 [05:53] <Showdow> xD
#103 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Seaarmy559 - IF they choose to pirate it, good for them.
#104 [05:53] <Showdow> wanna deaktivate them :< ^^^
#105 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Can't do anything about it
#106 [05:54] <Seaarmy559> why? isnt minecraft copyrighted?
#107 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1121596044/how-piracy-works
#108 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Notch's views on piracy.
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#109 [05:55] <Seaarmy559> ah
#110 [05:55] <Seaarmy559> i get it
#111 [05:56] <Seaarmy559> thanks
#112 [05:56] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#112 [05:56] <Seaarmy559> Alright
#113 [05:56] <Seaarmy559> Have a nice day
#114 [05:56] <Seaarmy559> Bye
#115 [05:57] * GreyVulpine waves
#115 [05:58] <Showdow> mh don't find the block enchanting table right there ..
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#117 [06:09] <Mage> Hello, does this IRC help solve plugin problems?
#118 [06:10] <Mage> Hello?
#119 [06:11] <Mage> NO ONE IS ONLINE?
#120 [06:11] <Mage> D:
#121 [06:13] <Mage> HELLO?
#122 [06:13] <Wug> stop yelling
#123 [06:13] <Mage> Sorry
#124 [06:13] <Wug> and we don't support mods in this channe;
#125 [06:13] <Mage> You don't?
#126 [06:13] <Wug> nope
#127 [06:13] <Mage> Is there a channel where you do?
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#129 [06:13] <Wug> you could try in #bukkit
#130 [06:13] <Mage> Thanks
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#139 [06:33] <dylanbarberdude> hey VoxelHead
#140 [06:38] <Chris> ??< bot
#141 [06:38] <Chris> ??< voxelhead
#142 [06:38] <Chris> hmm...
#143 [06:38] <dylanbarberdude> i know
#144 [06:38] <Chris> the bot entry changed
#145 [06:38] <Chris> ?? bot
#146 [06:38] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#147 [06:40] <dylanbarberdude> w
#148 [06:40] <dylanbarberdude> wtf
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#155 [07:02] <shmoo> hi i have a problem with minecraft
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#158 [07:05] <mohawk> heello
#159 [07:06] <mohawk> HALLO
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#165 [07:29] <Essentials_9895> Hello! There is a bug on my server so when people spawn for the first time they spawn on a hill, when the spawnpoint is inside of it. Is there anyway around it? Can I use Essentials to automatically use /spawn on a player when they're joining for the first time?
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#167 [07:31] <Wug> we dont support mods here
#168 [07:31] <Wug> but cant you just move the spawn with a map editor
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#174 [07:43] <dylanbarberdude> How long does a melon take to grow fully?
#175 [07:47] <dylanbarberdude> ?? login
#176 [07:47] <dylanbarberdude> ?? client/login
#177 [07:48] <Chris> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Melon_%28Block%29
#178 [07:48] <dylanbarberdude> thx
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#194 [08:33] <sieger300> hello
#195 [08:34] <rymate1234> hi?
#196 [08:34] <sieger300> can you help me?
#197 [08:35] <rymate1234> well
#198 [08:35] <rymate1234> whats the problem?
#199 [08:37] <sieger300> when I stand between many trees dan main craft laagt
#200 [08:37] <sieger300> ähmm sry for the bat englisch i came from germany
#201 [08:38] <moky> close all programs and then play minecraft.. maybe it will work
#202 [08:39] <sieger300> I've already made
#203 [08:40] <moky> your computer is maybe to low :D
#204 [08:40] <moky> your computer is maybe to low :D
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#207 [08:41] <sieger300> i have i7 core prozesor 4gb ram windows 7 home edition
#208 [08:42] <moky> hm.. restart your computer
#209 [08:42] <moky> idk try everything..
#210 [08:42] <Planck> sieger300: What graphics card?
#211 [08:42] <sieger300> öhmm wait
#212 [08:44] <sieger300> where can one read?
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#214 [08:45] <moky> "where can he read, which gk he have?".. i think he asked that :x
#215 [08:46] <Fiya> any way to get network logs from MC? like waht packets were received at which time?
#216 [08:46] <Fiya> send/received
#217 [08:46] <Planck> sieger300: dxdiag would tell you (and a lot more)
#218 [08:46] <moky> sieger300: google where you can read it.. i have a mac i cant help you there :/
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#220 [08:48] <TheNoodle> Fiya, wiresharck
#221 [08:48] <TheNoodle> *shark
#222 [08:50] <sieger300> planke?
#223 [08:50] <Planck> Yes?
#224 [08:50] <sieger300> I have you written about pm
#225 [08:50] <Planck> In Windows there's a program called dxdiag you can run to get tons of information
#226 [08:51] <Planck> Oh, I wouldn't have seen a pm. I'm in about 12 channels and new tabs aren't visible.
#227 [08:51] <Fiya> TheNoodle: yeah i know that one, just that applications logs that already map the packets to their classes and all would be easier to read xD
#228 [08:51] <Planck> Also going to sleep in about 2 minutes :-)
#229 [08:51] <Fiya> 12 only? :P
#230 [08:51] <moky> gn
#231 [08:57] <sieger300> i have intel(r) hd Graphics family
#232 [08:59] <sieger300> planck?
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#236 [09:04] <dylanbarberdude> hello
#237 [09:05] <moky> heii
#238 [09:10] <dylanbarberdude> hi
#239 [09:11] <dylanbarberdude> How long does a melon stem take to grow
#240 [09:11] <moky> random i think :o
#241 [09:11] <dylanbarberdude> the apox. time?
#242 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Random
#243 [09:12] <dylanbarberdude> not true
#244 [09:13] <dylanbarberdude> So in theoy i could plant a melon seed and their will be an instant stem+melon?
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#246 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> If you use bonemeal on it, yes
#247 [09:14] <dylanbarberdude> bonemeal...
#248 [09:14] <dylanbarberdude> good idea
#249 [09:14] <dylanbarberdude> hehehe
#250 [09:15] <dylanbarberdude> hay
#251 [09:15] <moky> haha :D
#252 [09:15] <dylanbarberdude> WTF ZOMBIE PIGMAN IN OVERWORLD
#253 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps there...
#254 [09:16] <dylanbarberdude> sorry
#255 [09:19] <clarjon1> dylanbarberdude: sounds like a pig got hit by lightning.
#256 [09:20] <dylanbarberdude> yep
#257 [09:20] <dylanbarberdude> or /lightning hehehe...
#258 [09:23] <Fiya> so no extensive debug output for MC?
#259 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Besides what you can get in the java console, or the terminal/command prompt? No
#260 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Are you looking for something specific?
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#262 [09:26] <Jelia> hello
#263 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#264 [09:26] <TheNoodle> lol
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#266 [09:27] <jelia> can anyone help me? i have a problem with the Game
#267 [09:27] <dylanbarberdude> TheNoodle, Are you beef flavour?
#268 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> jelia - Could you elaborate? What sort of problem?
#269 [09:28] <TheNoodle> Yessir.
#270 [09:28] * dylanbarberdude boils the kettle
#270 [09:28] <jelia> i will join the game and then came a message with user not premium
#271 [09:28] * dylanbarberdude whistles
#271 [09:28] <dylanbarberdude> omg
#272 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> jelia - Did you pay for minecraft?
#273 [09:28] <jelia> yes
#274 [09:28] <dylanbarberdude> !paid jelia
#275 [09:29] <dylanbarberdude> ok...
#276 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> jelia - Did it work before? When did you pay for it? What did you use to pay for minecrafT?
#277 [09:30] <jelia> no i have play minecraft three weeks and than i can not join only the message i can see
#278 [09:30] * dylanbarberdude eats TheNoodle
#278 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> jelia - What is your minecraft username?
#279 [09:30] <dylanbarberdude> mmm beef
#280 [09:30] <TheNoodle> Dylan, shhhh.
#281 [09:30] <dylanbarberdude> ok
#282 [09:30] <jelia> my name is there Jelia83
#283 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> !paid jelia83
#284 [09:30] <TheNoodle> jelia, where did you buy minecraft?
#285 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't look like that account is marked as paid for. Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net?
#286 [09:31] <jelia> i buy it by MMoga
#287 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then you were scammed unfortunately.
#288 [09:31] <dylanbarberdude> hahaha
#289 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> There are no authorized resellers of minecraft, other than from minecraft.net
#290 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> !k dylanbarberdude
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#293 [09:32] <dylanbarberdude> do you want to borrow mine
#294 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> We see this quite frequently. The only official place to purchase minecraft is from Mojang itself, from minecraft.net. Any other place, you run the risk of getting scammed
#295 [09:32] <dylanbarberdude> if its allowed
#296 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> No
#297 [09:32] <moky> !paid kingstripe
#298 [09:33] <moky> yay
#299 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> jelia - I would contact the seller of your account, and file a dispute.
#300 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully get your money back
#301 [09:34] <jelia> k thanks
#302 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
#303 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
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#312 [09:42] <Good_Game> Hello
#313 [09:42] <moky> heii
#314 [09:43] <jelia> hello
#315 [09:43] <Good_Game> What is the usaul activity of this channel?
#316 [09:43] <moky> what you mean?
#317 [09:44] <Good_Game> Average people helped or well failed to help...
#318 [09:45] <moky> well failed to help <3
#319 [09:46] <Good_Game> Sorry have to dash. End of my shift.
#320 [09:46] <Good_Game> Bye!
#321 [09:46] <TheNoodle> His...shift?
#322 [09:46] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#322 [09:46] <Good_Game> I work for ABC3
#323 [09:46] <TheNoodle> Also, next time don't try to take other people's nicks :P
#324 [09:46] <TheNoodle> No, you don't.,
#325 [09:46] <Good_Game> Bye!
#326 [09:47] <TheNoodle> lolled.
#327 [09:47] <moky> bb
#328 [09:47] <TheNoodle> Good Game is an australian tv show :p
#329 [09:47] <moky> lol
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#331 [09:48] <Troll_Notch> hehehe
#332 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> !kb Troll_Notch
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#334 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Next
#335 [09:57] <Kealper> ping timeouts are for noobs
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#342 [10:10] <SkyD1979> hello?
#343 [10:10] <SkyD1979> Is there an Admin who can help me ?
#344 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> With?
#345 [10:11] <SkyD1979> I have bought an Minecraft Gift Key at MMOGA and all was working fine, but after a Week it says that I am not premium.
#346 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> You got scammed
#347 [10:11] <SkyD1979> MMOGA checked the Key and told me that everything is fine and I should contact minecraft support
#348 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> There are no authorized resellers of minecraft. The only official place to buy minecraft from, is minecraft.net
#349 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Mojang offers no support for minecraft not bought from minecraft.net directly
#350 [10:12] <SkyD1979> uuuhg :(
#351 [10:13] <SkyD1979> So I will try to get my money back
#352 [10:13] <SkyD1979> thank you
#353 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Good luck
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#356 [10:16] <Lykkepillen> Some of my users has a cape
#357 [10:16] <Lykkepillen> How?
#358 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecon probably
#359 [10:17] <TheNoodle> Any user attending minecon get's a cape.
#360 [10:17] <Lykkepillen> God dammit
#361 [10:17] <TheNoodle> Or, they're mojang in disguise.
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#365 [10:21] <Lykkepillen> He can't possibly be
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#367 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Anybody who signed up for minecon gets a cape
#368 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> They're not going to check everybody who goes there
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#371 [10:24] <walent> Hi guys
#372 [10:25] <walent> need help
#373 [10:25] <walent> minecraft updater doesnt work with java 7 for me
#374 [10:25] <Kealper> indeed i think i read that if you buy a MineCon ticket you get a cape, you don't even have to actually attend
#375 [10:25] <Kealper> ?? causality
#376 [10:25] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#377 [10:25] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#378 [10:26] <walent> :No JVM could be found please define EXE4J_Java_Home
#379 [10:26] <Kealper> O.o
#380 [10:27] <Kealper> uhh... try completely uninstalling everything with "Java" in it's name, and then going to http://java.com and getting the latest Java 6 from there
#381 [10:27] <walent> But i dont want Java 6 :P
#382 [10:27] <walent> I already have up and running server
#383 [10:27] <TheNoodle> hmm
#384 [10:28] <TheNoodle> Install java 6 as well, then start your server pointing to 7.
#385 [10:28] <walent> Wont that break things?
#386 [10:28] <Chris> you can have more than one java running or just trolling?
#387 [10:29] <TheNoodle> You can.
#388 [10:29] <Kealper> he's actually serious, if you wanted to do that
#389 [10:29] <Chris> really? did not know that xD never needed to
#390 [10:29] <walent> How am i suppoused to tell bukkit which java should he use
#391 [10:29] <TheNoodle> I dont always help, but when i do people still think I'm a troll.
#392 [10:29] <TheNoodle> walent, how are you starting the server?
#393 [10:29] <Chris> xD you aren't a troll?
#394 [10:29] <walent> Craftbukkit shortcut
#395 [10:30] <Kealper> TheNoodle: i totally read the beginning of that like The Most Interesting Man meme lol
#396 [10:30] <TheNoodle> That's the idea :P
#397 [10:30] <TheNoodle> walent, follow the shortcut.
#398 [10:30] * Kealper wins
#398 [10:30] <walent> ?
#399 [10:30] <TheNoodle> see where it leads.
#400 [10:30] <walent> Well CB folder..?
#401 [10:31] <TheNoodle> Okay, right click on the shortcut and select properties.
#402 [10:31] <walent> k?
#403 [10:31] <TheNoodle> Where is the shortcut linking to?
#404 [10:31] <walent> "C:\Users\Vanja\Documents\CraftBukkit Server\CraftBukkit Starter.bat"
#405 [10:32] <TheNoodle> Okay, now go and open that file in notepad.
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#407 [10:33] <TheNoodle> You'll have a line that starts with java, you need to change that to the directory for the version of java you wish to use.
#408 [10:33] <walent> kk, its configured ok
#409 [10:33] <robin24> Does anyone know how to change the spawn point in a server
#410 [10:34] <walent> PHAIL
#411 [10:34] <walent> Launcher doesnt work
#412 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> You can with either a map editor, or a worldedit plugin
#413 [10:34] <walent> >.<
#414 [10:34] <walent> Shiz, i need 32-bit?
#415 [10:34] <walent> gosh
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#417 [10:35] <walent> Squirrel
#418 [10:35] <walent> ran over my phone
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#425 [10:47] <rumpler> Hi - Can anyone help please. What is the recommended spec of PC/Laptop to run Minecraft. Thanks
#426 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Any relatively modern computer should be able to run minecraft. We recommend nothing less than 1.5 gigs of RAM, and a dedicated graphics card is preferable
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#430 [10:51] <Skull_bounche> Hi
#431 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#432 [10:51] <Skull_bounche> GreyVulpine
#433 [10:51] <Skull_bounche> I had to reboot my computer !!!!!!
#434 [10:52] <Skull_bounche> BEcause no java programs did work
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#436 [10:55] <Skull_bounche> GreyVulpine
#437 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#438 [10:56] <Skull_bounche> I had to reboot my comp !
#439 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#440 [10:56] <Skull_bounche> Like so every program had to bee deleted
#441 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Huh? Why?
#442 [10:57] <Skull_bounche> Because someone tryed to fix my computer then made it worse so non java programs did work ...
#443 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at them..
#444 [10:57] <Skull_bounche> It was you !
#445 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> What exactly did I do?
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#447 [10:59] <Skull_bounche> U did delete wrong java files so only half of them did go away !
#448 [10:59] <Skull_bounche> Then i couldent dowload them on new and not delete them completely
#449 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Was this over teamviewer?
#450 [10:59] <Skull_bounche> yupp
#451 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, are you able to wipe java using your control panel's add/remove programs or Programs and features??
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#453 [11:03] <badgerbadger429> can anybody help me?
#454 [11:04] <badgerbadger429> im getting a black screen a lot
#455 [11:04] <badgerbadger429> whenever i try to play a minecraft world, i get black screened.
#456 [11:04] <badgerbadger429> oh...
#457 [11:05] <badgerbadger429> i just read an attention thing.
#458 [11:05] <badgerbadger429> NEVERMIND
#459 [11:05] <mib_t7k0qm> Same for me
#460 [11:05] <Skull_bounche> http://mibpaste.com/X9ZKMI
#461 [11:06] <mib_t7k0qm> but it lets me play 1 time a day but when i get off i cantplay anymore
#462 [11:06] <mib_t7k0qm> and the computer isnt old
#463 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Skull_bounche - That looks like a java issue stemming from your computer being too old to run minecraft.
#464 [11:07] <mib_t7k0qm> Hello!!??!!
#465 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - Can you give us any more information?
#466 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - Do you get any error messages?
#467 [11:07] <mib_t7k0qm> IT IS NOT OLD!!!
#468 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - What happens exactly when you try and launch or log into minecraft?
#469 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - The message about the computer being too old was directed at Skull_bounche
#470 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Hence, me prefixing his name at the start of the line.
#471 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - See, I'm now talking to you. See your name at the start of the line? Now. Can you answer some of my previous questions?
#472 [11:08] <mib_t7k0qm> some times it lets me play but only once and its a black screen and i CANT play on multiplayer severs
#473 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - Can you give us any more information?
#474 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - Do you get any error messages?
#475 [11:09] <mib_t7k0qm> no
#476 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - What operating system are you on?
#477 [11:09] <mib_t7k0qm> mac O X
#478 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - What version of Mac OSX?
#479 [11:09] <mib_t7k0qm> or however you say it
#480 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> You can find out by going to the apple icon, and looking at About this mac
#481 [11:10] <mib_t7k0qm> ILL TRY
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#483 [11:10] <mib_t7k0qm> 10.4.11
#484 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> That would be why. Your mac is too old to run minecraft as is. There is currently an incompatibility with mac osx 10.5 and minecraft 1.8.1
#485 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> This issue will be resolved in 1.9
#486 [11:11] <Shroom> Owned. :O
#487 [11:11] <Shroom> That's why you shouldn't buy a mac.
#488 [11:11] <mib_t7k0qm> ok are you sure i cant download it somewhere else on the internet
#489 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely sure.
#490 [11:12] <mib_t7k0qm> And fyi macs are awsome!
#491 [11:12] <Shroom> ^ lols
#492 [11:12] <Shroom> Grey do you run a server?
#493 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Used to.
#494 [11:12] <mib_t7k0qm> <:(
#495 [11:12] <Shroom> I'm bored playing on my server, want to check out some others. xD
#496 [11:12] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#496 [11:13] <mib_t7k0qm> when will 1.9 comeout
#497 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Haven't really been a regular on any minecraft servers for the past few months.
#498 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_t7k0qm - At minecon, on Nov 18-19
#499 [11:13] <Shroom> Nov 18th
#500 [11:13] <mib_t7k0qm> Not at minecon
#501 [11:13] <Shroom> Grey means "during" minecon.
#502 [11:13] <Shroom> lol
#503 [11:14] * GreyVulpine eyerolls.
#503 [11:14] <mib_t7k0qm> regularly what time
#504 [11:14] <Shroom> Uh..
#505 [11:14] <Shroom> Nov 18th.
#506 [11:14] <Shroom> o.o
#507 [11:14] <mib_t7k0qm> Stop doing that to me shroom
#508 [11:15] <TheNoodle> lol?
#509 [11:15] <Shroom> Have they set a specific time for it?
#510 [11:15] <Shroom> lol
#511 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#512 [11:15] <mib_t7k0qm> BYE and thanks for the help Grey!
#513 [11:15] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#513 [11:15] <mib_t7k0qm> do you play roblox anyone?
#514 [11:16] <Shroom> Sounds like Pokemon.
#515 [11:16] <mib_t7k0qm> its practicly the same as minecraft
#516 [11:16] <Shroom> Doubtfully as good.
#517 [11:16] <mib_t7k0qm> nope not pokemon a website
#518 [11:17] <mib_t7k0qm> nope its VERY good
#519 [11:17] <mib_t7k0qm> see for yourself shroom'
#520 [11:17] <Shroom> It's not as good.
#521 [11:17] <Shroom> I just looked.
#522 [11:18] <mib_t7k0qm> have you PLAYED any thing
#523 [11:18] <Shroom> About to now.
#524 [11:18] <mib_t7k0qm> ok
#525 [11:18] <mib_t7k0qm> it takes time to get use to it
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#527 [11:18] <mib_t7k0qm> sooo?
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#529 [11:19] <Shroom> Slow pos is still updating
#530 [11:19] <mib_t7k0qm> i know it takes a long time
#531 [11:19] <Shroom> Oh there we go.
#532 [11:20] <mib_t7k0qm> so?
#533 [11:20] <Skull_bounche> try my lvl
#534 [11:20] <mib_t7k0qm> so?!
#535 [11:20] <Skull_bounche> im good at roblox scripting
#536 [11:20] <Shroom> Oh wow it's dumb.
#537 [11:20] <Shroom> lol
#538 [11:20] <Skull_bounche> search kongen46
#539 [11:20] <Shroom> Minecraft is so much better.
#540 [11:20] <Skull_bounche> xD
#541 [11:21] <mib_t7k0qm> ill frenid you im brantly03
#542 [11:21] <mib_t7k0qm> ok
#543 [11:21] <Skull_bounche> ok
#544 [11:22] <Skull_bounche> it was kongen66
#545 [11:22] <Skull_bounche> it was kongen66
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#547 [11:22] <mib_t7k0qm> i sent it
#548 [11:23] <mib_t7k0qm> look on your profile
#549 [11:23] <Skull_bounche> i have accepted
#550 [11:24] <mib_t7k0qm> i best freinded you!
#551 [11:24] <mib_t7k0qm> :)
#552 [11:24] <mib_t7k0qm> AKF
#553 [11:25] <mib_t7k0qm> im back
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#555 [11:26] <mib_t7k0qm> Bye!!!
#556 [11:28] <mib_t7k0qm> ;)
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#569 [12:09] <blink348> uh
#570 [12:09] <Chris> huh
#571 [12:09] <blink348> Could I come here for #minecraft help? Apparently I've been banned for no reason...
#572 [12:09] <Chris> how long ago?
#573 [12:09] <blink348> I don't know
#574 [12:09] <Chris> today?
#575 [12:09] <Chris> google yourself and minecraft IRC...
#576 [12:09] <blink348> I...don't know...the ban list is much too large
#577 [12:10] <blink348> I'm trying to read over it now
#578 [12:10] <Chris> lol i'll see if i can find it
#579 [12:10] <Chris> lol i'll see if i can find it
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#581 [12:10] <blink348> I idle there often, but
#582 [12:10] <blink348> idk
#583 [12:12] <Thrae> blink348: http://minecraftirc.net/forum-13.html
#584 [12:12] <blink348> Is there an op online?
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#586 [12:14] <galuwyr> Hi
#587 [12:14] <Chris> !check s.minecrafter.com
#588 [12:15] <galuwyr> I get the 'fatal error ocurred' message again... i wanted to update to 1.9....now it want download...and there it is: Fatal error occured (4) null
#589 [12:15] <galuwyr> Have anyone a solution?
#590 [12:16] <galuwyr> I reinstalled Antivir , Java 32/62 ...update graphiccard
#591 [12:16] <galuwyr> reinstalled minecraft a hundret times
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#593 [12:17] <galuwyr> So , theres no solution and i cant get help anywhere?
#594 [12:17] <Chris> ?? patience
#595 [12:17] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#596 [12:17] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#597 [12:17] <blink348> ugh...
#598 [12:17] <Shroom> What does the fatal error say?
#599 [12:17] <Shroom> Does it say your liver went bad?
#600 [12:18] <galuwyr> just "fatal error occured :(4) null"
#601 [12:18] <Shroom> Nothing about heart cancer or the black lung?
#602 [12:18] <galuwyr> You are very funny
#603 [12:18] <galuwyr> Not.
#604 [12:18] <Chris> damn trolls
#605 [12:18] <Shroom> Trolling is fun. ;)
#606 [12:19] <Chris> trolling'll get you banned
#607 [12:19] <galuwyr> Trolling is noob and now get away
#608 [12:19] <Chris> Thrae, if you're still around are you able to help please?
#609 [12:20] <Shroom> lol You're so mad. D:
#610 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> We don't tolerate trolling here. Stop.
#611 [12:21] <galuwyr> Calinou once helped me ... i had this problem already one time. but i dont know the solution , i tried a lot of things... after i reboost my pc and started mc it works.
#612 [12:21] <Thrae> Chris: Yes?
#613 [12:22] <Chris> galuwyr needs some help... I don't know how to troubleshoot minecraft...
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#615 [12:25] <swordsman> can you help with downloading?
#616 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Downloading what?
#617 [12:26] <swordsman> minecraft.exe
#618 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> What's the issue?
#619 [12:27] <swordsman> My grandson's friend tried to download a mod and somehow messed up the game. We uninstalled it and are trying to re-install it.
#620 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, what operating system are you on?
#621 [12:27] <swordsman> windows 7
#622 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#623 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Delete the bin folder inside. Then run minecraft.exe again.
#624 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> It'll redownload everything
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#626 [12:29] <sadasd> any1 ther e
#627 [12:29] <sadasd> ?
#628 [12:29] <galuwyr> Greyvulpine , do you know anything about this error : "fatal error occured :(4) null " ?
#629 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> galuwyr - Usually has to deal with the antivirus/security software blocking minecraft or java from downloading the files
#630 [12:30] <Shroom> What's a decent credit score?
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#632 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - 800
#633 [12:30] <swordsman> I did delete the bin folder. Do I log back in to my grandson account to download minecraft.exe?
#634 [12:30] <Chris> Shroom, >0
#635 [12:30] <Shroom> Is the highest 850?
#636 [12:30] <Chris> xD
#637 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - You can just download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download
#638 [12:31] <swordsman> Thank you. I'll try it.
#639 [12:31] <sadasd> GreyVulpine i have waited over 24 hours , and i haven't get my PREMIUM !
#640 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - You were the one with the visa electron card, right?
#641 [12:31] <galuwyr> GreyVulpine ,ok , and how can I diable Avira AntiVir?
#642 [12:31] <sadasd> Yes
#643 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> galuwyr - Couldn't tell you, I don't use it myself
#644 [12:31] <Chris> sadasd, where'd you purchase the game from, what website
#645 [12:31] <galuwyr> kk
#646 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - Did you call your card's customer support number?
#647 [12:32] <sadasd> minecraft.net
#648 [12:32] <sadasd> Yes I did and there wasn't any problems
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#650 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - Then you can file a support ticket at minecraft.net/support
#651 [12:33] <sadasd> There isn't any website called minecraft.net/support
#652 [12:33] <Shroom> Gotta put www.
#653 [12:33] <mib_0lcari> Hi all i need some help with my MinecCraft sound, I have checked with all of the options in there turned my voluam up. re-installed minecraft and still not sound :( anyone able to help
#654 [12:33] <Shroom> Or it won't load
#655 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#656 [12:33] <Shroom> Not sure why.
#657 [12:34] <sadasd> Grey Do I choose Account or Payment ?
#658 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Account -> premium -> I bought a premium account, but my account is still regular
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#660 [12:35] <Shroom> Premium?
#661 [12:35] <mib_0lcari> Anyone able to help
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#663 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_0lcari - Has it worked before?
#664 [12:36] <mib_0lcari> yes
#665 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Did you use any mods?
#666 [12:36] <sadasd> What is Transfaction ID ?
#667 [12:36] <mib_0lcari> nope not since it stopped
#668 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> The receipt ID you got when you paid for minecraft, sadasd
#669 [12:37] <sadasd> Visa Electron ?
#670 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_0lcari - Have you gone to your .minecraft folder, deleted everything but the saves folder?
#671 [12:37] <sadasd> now i dont understand ..
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#673 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - When you bought minecraft using either moneybookers, or paypal, those services should've given you a receipt of payment
#674 [12:37] <sadasd> ok
#675 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> On that receipt, should've been a transaction ID
#676 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> This way, Mojang can track down your payment.
#677 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_0lcari - Did you redownload the minecraft launcher as well?
#678 [12:38] <mib_0lcari> yes everything
#679 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_0lcari - What operating system are you on?
#680 [12:39] <mib_0lcari> Windows 7
#681 [12:39] <sadasd> Last transaction -14.95 EUR Last successful login 30 Oct 2011 10:20 (CET)
#682 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - What are you reading that from?
#683 [12:39] <sadasd> moneybookers.com
#684 [12:39] <sadasd> from > My account
#685 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you see any long string of characters that identifies that particular transaction?
#686 [12:40] <Shroom> Ugh I need a better credit score.
#687 [12:40] <sadasd> Where should i see that ?
#688 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_0lcari - Could you try updating lwjgl? instructions are here: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#689 [12:41] <swordsman> It asks "Do you want to save Mine craft.exe (263KB) from s3.amazonaws.com?" I click save and it says minecraft_exe couln't be downloaded. What else can I try?
#690 [12:41] <mib_0lcari> ok
#691 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - Could you try a different browser?
#692 [12:41] <swordsman> How do I do that?
#693 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - Either that, or your antivirus may be marking minecraft.exe as a false positive, and blocking it
#694 [12:41] <swordsman> I turned it off
#695 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - Do you have access to any other browsers? Firefox? Chrome? Opera?
#696 [12:42] <swordsman> I don't know
#697 [12:42] <sadasd> Grey Where should i find that code ?
#698 [12:42] <Shroom> Sadasd.
#699 [12:42] <Shroom> Who did you buy it with?
#700 [12:42] <sadasd> my mom
#701 [12:42] <Shroom> Err.
#702 [12:42] <Shroom> What payment processor I mean
#703 [12:42] <sadasd> Visa Electron
#704 [12:42] <Shroom> Like PayPal, etc?
#705 [12:42] <Shroom> Oh.
#706 [12:43] <Shroom> Does Visa Electron email you receipts?
#707 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - http://earningbd.com/wp-content/uploads/moneybookers%20statement(1).jpg
#708 [12:43] <sadasd> on my email or ?
#709 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Transaction ID is in the first column
#710 [12:43] <sadasd> 'Page not found'
#711 [12:44] <sadasd> shroom
#712 [12:44] <sadasd> Shroom
#713 [12:44] <blink348> So um
#714 [12:44] <sadasd> in moneybookers there reads : Last transaction -14.95 EUR Last successful login 30 Oct 2011 10:20 (CET)
#715 [12:44] <blink348> is anyone going to check my thread?
#716 [12:44] <blink348> Like today?
#717 [12:44] <Shroom> Check w/e email is linked to that account sadasd.
#718 [12:44] <Shroom> See if you got a receipt.
#719 [12:45] <blink348> Can any of you do it?
#720 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - This doesn't work? earningbd.com/wp-content/uploads/moneybookers%20statement(1).jpg
#721 [12:45] <sadasd> nope
#722 [12:45] <Shroom> It doesn't Grey.
#723 [12:45] <Shroom> I tried it too.
#724 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Really..
#725 [12:45] <blink348> Grey? Can you do it?
#726 [12:45] <swordsman> how do i get another browser
#727 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - You can download it. Firefox is available at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
#728 [12:46] <sadasd> Shroom nothing in my email
#729 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> blink348 - Do what?
#730 [12:46] <blink348> Are you able to check my ban appeal in the forums?
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#732 [12:46] <Faint> Can someone tell me how Client Wrappers work?
#733 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> blink348 - I don't deal with ban appeals.
#734 [12:47] <sadasd> So grey where do i find my receptid
#735 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - Try this link
#736 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> http://earningbd.com/wp-content/uploads/moneybookers statement(1).jpg
#737 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Copy it exactly
#738 [12:47] <blink348> That's cool
#739 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> You can see the transaction ID clearly in the first column there
#740 [12:48] <blink348> I'll just wait out this mistake ban I guess...
#741 [12:48] <sadasd> ok now it's works
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#743 [12:48] <sadasd> but where is the 'Transaction ID ' ?
#744 [12:48] <blink348> :\
#745 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> The first column, where it says "ID"
#746 [12:49] <sadasd> lol i can't see it ..
#747 [12:49] <sadasd> but i see http://earningbd.com/wp-content/uploads/moneybookers statement(1).jpg
#748 [12:49] <sadasd> no wrong
#749 [12:49] <sadasd> Last transaction -14.95 EUR Last successful login 30 Oct 2011 10:20 (CET)
#750 [12:49] <sadasd> look at the day and time
#751 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - What's in front of the day and time there?
#752 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> sadasd - What's in front of the day and time there?
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#754 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> What's in the first column?
#755 [12:50] <sadasd> front day ?
#756 [12:50] <sadasd> its 18:50 Monday right now
#757 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Oi.. I don't know how to make this any clearer
#758 [12:54] <sadasd> oh lord i find it
#759 [12:54] <sadasd> Thank you Grey
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#763 [13:03] <mib_mnnion> I cant get it to work. i tried updating all my hardware, but it still says fatal code error #1. is there anything i can do?
#764 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error?
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#766 [13:03] <mib_mnnion> error loading logo and progress bar
#767 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Ah, running classic?
#768 [13:04] <mib_mnnion> it wont let me run either one
#769 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> That error's usually a classic one.
#770 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Happens when the classic client can't download the files needed. Usually clearing the temp/cache files from the browser clears it up
#771 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> If it's not that, you'll want to check your security software/AV, make sure it isn't blocking anything from minecraft
#772 [13:06] <mib_mnnion> i think the error must be with my computer because i cant even download now, but thank you for your help
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#775 [13:08] <Shroom> So you can't make your own end portal...
#776 [13:08] <Shroom> And I can't find a stronghold. :(
#777 [13:08] <swordsman> I think I have it downloaded. Can I make a desktop icon to launch it
#778 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> swordsman - You should just be able to put minecraft.exe anywhere you want
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#780 [13:11] <swordsman> Thanks for all your help. My grandson will be so happy when he comes home from school. Happy Halloween.
#781 [13:12] <swordsman> Will this game update by itself?
#782 [13:13] <blink348> what command is used on here to see what the different chanmodes do?
#783 [13:13] <blink348> I know usually it's helpop but apparently this is a different ircd
#784 [13:14] <blink348> charybdis -_-
#785 [13:14] <blink348> I'll go look it up.
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#787 [13:15] <Shroom> Any hints on how to find a stronghold?
#788 [13:15] <swordsman> will mine craft.exe update itself when you launch it
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#791 [13:22] <Gmr_Leon> Anyone here?
#792 [13:23] <Chris> it depends on your problem xD
#793 [13:26] <Gmr_Leon> Anyone know if Minecraft causes display glitches with laptops that have a AMD Radeon cards?
#794 [13:27] <Thrae> Gmr_Leon: Ones that don't have the latest drivers, sure
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#796 [13:28] <Gmr_Leon> Hmm, it wouldn't cause the entire system to bugger out would it? With the display glitch just being the most obvious?
#797 [13:28] <Fiya> looking for any information on the bug when playing online where tools break but when you click the slot they've been in you get a tool with some durability back
#798 [13:28] <Fiya> *for all information
#799 [13:28] <Fiya> :p
#800 [13:29] <Thrae> Gmr_Leon: No AMD-specific problems with Minecraft outside of bad drivers. Minecraft uses an old version of OpenGL and 99.999% of people aren't playing old OpenGL games.
#801 [13:30] <Gmr_Leon> Interesting. Thanks for the info. Guess I still need to conduct some tests to figure out what's causing my glitch then.
#802 [13:30] <Thrae> ??> Gmr_Leon win/dxdiag
#803 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Gmr_Leon: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#804 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Gmr_Leon: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#805 [13:30] <Thrae> Gmr_Leon: Follow those instructions and I'll take a look at what DxDiag reports about your hardware.
#806 [13:32] <Gmr_Leon> http://pastebin.com/eG8pg4L2
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#808 [13:33] <Thrae> Gmr_Leon: Ahhh you have Switchable Graphics.
#809 [13:34] <Gmr_Leon> Mhm. I have it assigned to run Minecraft with the Radeon card, though. I thought that might be a part of the problem though.
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#811 [13:34] <Thrae> Gmr_Leon: Follow these instructions to add "java.exe" and "javaw.exe" to force Minecraft to be run with your ATI GPU instead of your Intel GPU -- http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03048374
#812 [13:34] <Thrae> Yeah, Minecraft.exe is just a Java JAR file with instructions to call Java
#813 [13:35] <Tununias> how do I get minecraft prerelease for linux?
#814 [13:35] <Thrae> Tununias: Same way as any other platform. For Linux it goes in ~/.minecraft/bin
#815 [13:36] <Thrae> ?? 1.9
#816 [13:36] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar
#817 [13:36] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#818 [13:36] <Tununias> thanks
#819 [13:38] <Tununias> it worked. thanks again.
#820 [13:43] <walent> Dont ban me for having a cracked client *trollface*
#821 [13:44] <Gmr_Leon> Took me a few minutes, but I figured out what you were getting at Thrae. I'll see if the glitch persists after that. Thanks again!
#822 [13:45] <blink348> so what the hell is *!*@2607:f358:1:fed5:22:0:2b9c:94de
#823 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> ipv6 address
#824 [13:45] <walent> mac adress?
#825 [13:45] <blink348> oh
#826 [13:45] <walent> or that
#827 [13:46] <blink348> still trying to find out what ban I qualify for in minecraft...
#828 [13:46] <blink348> it had to have been one of the first 9
#829 [13:46] <blink348> but I can't see how any of those matches me...
#830 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. you're banned?
#831 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> You're in #minecraft..
#832 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> I see your name right there
#833 [13:48] <lukegb> Yup, you're definitely in #minecraft
#834 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Aaah... you're not registered on esper, hence you can't talk
#835 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> You're not actually banned.
#836 [13:48] <blink348> ...what
#837 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#838 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Do that ^
#839 [13:49] <blink348> blink should be regged...
#840 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> You'll be able to talk in #minecraft when you're finished registering
#841 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> You're not identified for that nick then
#842 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv identify password
#843 [13:49] <blink> Yes I know the commands...
#844 [13:50] * GreyVulpine kicks blink
#844 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> That's for having me look through #minecraft's giant banlist, trying to match your hostmask
#845 [13:51] <blink> Well I'm sorry that the ops cannot come up with a PROPER solution to spambots
#846 [13:51] <blink> >_>
#847 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> That was proper, and quick
#848 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Force anybody who wants to talk, to identify first. Spambots can't do that
#849 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> You weren't there when we had daily spambot attacks.
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#851 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Also, people that had routers that couldn't parse DCC SEND requests, those were always fun
#852 [13:53] <Thrae> Also it forces people lazy enough to use web clients to take 1 extra step to be able to talk. People too lazy or uninformed to follow the topic and register your nick tend not to have anything good to say :)
#853 [13:53] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: I believe that exploit is still in mIRC
#854 [13:53] * GreyVulpine shakes
#854 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> It had to do with old crappy firmware on routers
#855 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> I'm running mIRC right now, was fixed a long while ago
#856 [13:54] <Thrae> Yeah, but not all IRC clients had that problem
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#858 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> I saw the problem as more of a router issue, than an IRC client issue, back when it was really popular to do
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#860 [13:56] <blink> I'm still surprised the name 'blink' was not taken
#861 [13:56] <blink> nicks have an expiration thingy, right?
#862 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#863 [13:56] <Thrae> EsperNet isn't the biggest network
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#868 [14:18] <Yellowchopsticks> can mcpatcher be used to load mods instead of modloader?
#869 [14:19] <Yellowchopsticks> or do mods that say "requires modloader" actually need modloader
#870 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> I think you actually need modloader
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#872 [14:25] <count_blinkula> :\
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#874 [14:31] <Yellowchopsticks> sigh, i guess i'll just have to keep waiting for a modloader that works with 1.9, or whatever the released version will be numbered
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#876 [14:32] <Yellowchopsticks> or perhaps i should ask, does modloader work with 1.9?
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#878 [14:34] <mib_nsk244> hey guys i have a question. i have a really old mac. now i downloaded minecraft and wanted to login (it isnt cracked, its the original minecraft) but even when i type on login it says "cant connect to minecraft.net". why does that happen and what can i do against this?
#879 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> No idea. May want to ask in #risucraft
#880 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_nsk244 - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net
#881 [14:34] <mib_nsk244> by the way: on my windows pc it still orks
#882 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> The old launcher doesn't work any more
#883 [14:34] <mib_nsk244> i have the new launcher
#884 [14:35] <Yellowchopsticks> there's a new launcher?
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#886 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Some people still use the launcher from alpha, the one without the news feed
#887 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Also the one that doesn't authenticate via SSL, the new launcher does
#888 [14:36] <Yellowchopsticks> when did the new launcher come out?
#889 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Sometime earlier this year?
#890 [14:36] <sieger300> Here is a German??
#891 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#892 [14:39] <sieger300> grey i have wirtten you
#893 [14:39] <sieger300> in the pm
#894 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> sieger300 - We can help in the channel. No need to PM
#895 [14:39] <mortisha> yes i am german
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#897 [14:40] <sieger300> mortisha?
#898 [14:40] <mortisha> yes?
#899 [14:40] <sieger300> ich hab mal ne frage zu dem mod minecolony
#900 [14:41] <mortisha> was denn?
#901 [14:41] <Yellowchopsticks> dammit, i didnt know there was a new launcher, with a news feed :P
#902 [14:41] * GreyVulpine hehs
#902 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> That was implemented back in January or so
#903 [14:41] <Yellowchopsticks> weird, i started in july or something
#904 [14:41] <Yellowchopsticks> and somehow got the old launcher
#905 [14:42] <sieger300> ehmm und zwar wenn ich den modloader installirt habe und dan minecolony dan scheist mein mincraft nach der majong anzeige ab
#906 [14:42] <sieger300> wenn ich
#907 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Then, the newest launcher was recently released with 1.8, with the server list
#908 [14:42] <Yellowchopsticks> do i still save that exe in the bin folder?
#909 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> You can save it anyhwere
#910 [14:42] <mortisha> mh kann es sein das du eine alte version vom modloader hast?`
#911 [14:42] <sieger300> nur den minecolony mod instaliert habe dan geht minecraft
#912 [14:42] <sieger300> wieso geht das nicht mit dem modloadr?
#913 [14:43] <sieger300> meta inf habe ich gelöst
#914 [14:43] <mortisha> vllt ist es eine zu alte version und du musst eine neue downloaden
#915 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Wir arbeiten nicht mit mods hier zu helfen. Versuchen Sie, in der Mod-Forum.
#916 [14:43] <sieger300> aso okey
#917 [14:43] <mortisha> hm aber mit modloader ken ich mich generell nicht so super aus
#918 [14:44] <mortisha> ich habe nur spc und tmi
#919 [14:44] <sieger300> okey danke trotzem
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#923 [14:45] <Yellowchopsticks> so what's the thing in the appdata folder, GreyVulpine?
#924 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> The deal is this. The launcher you get from minecraft.net is just that, the launcher. It's what you use to log into minecraft. Once you log into minecraft successfully with a premium account, it'll download the actual game files into %appdata%/.minecraft
#925 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> You can place the launcher anywhere you want. The actual game files will always download to %appdata%
#926 [14:46] <Yellowchopsticks> ah
#927 [14:46] <Yellowchopsticks> yay, i can login again
#928 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#929 [14:46] <Yellowchopsticks> and use my custom skin again
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#932 [14:47] <sieger300> mortisha?
#933 [14:48] <sieger300> wie heist der chennel für mods?
#934 [14:48] <mortisha> jo?
#935 [14:48] <mortisha> weis nicht genau
#936 [14:48] <mortisha> musst mal googlen
#937 [14:48] <sieger300> okey
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#941 [14:57] <dogma> hello!
#942 [14:58] <dogma> i got a question, does minecraft on android crossplatform with pc?
#943 [14:58] <almostroot> dogma: Not at this time.
#944 [14:58] <dogma> ok, thanks! :)
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#947 [15:03] <URsvAir14> Could anybody help me out?
#948 [15:03] <mfx_chan> is here anyoe online
#949 [15:03] <mfx_chan> ?
#950 [15:04] <URsvAir14> yeh they are
#951 [15:04] <mfx_chan> whats your question ursavair14
#952 [15:04] <URsvAir14> how the hell can I fix my minecraft
#953 [15:04] <mfx_chan> whats happened with it?
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#955 [15:05] <URsvAir14> I click on the .exe file and nothing pops up. Just an error message with about a hundred lines is generated
#956 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Please share that error report via pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#957 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> It'll allow us to read the error, and determine what is wrong
#958 [15:05] <URsvAir14> Ill try, but it might be because I finally updated java today
#959 [15:06] <mfx_chan> mh maybe it downloaded wrong. you should delete your the .exe and the minecraft folder in appdata and downlaod it again
#960 [15:06] <URsvAir14> I have, 3 times and the same error persists. I have played minecraft before btw
#961 [15:06] <mfx_chan> oh okey
#962 [15:07] <mfx_chan> then i dont no anymore
#963 [15:07] <URsvAir14> do u think it mite be fixed thru an update
#964 [15:07] <Betacrow> Hi, I'm on Lubuntu 11.10 and I'm having trouble getting Minecraft to start. I downloaded the jar and I can get the launcher to load, but when I enter my username/pw it says I can't connect to minecraft, normally I'd think it's an account issue but I'm also presented with a big error message in my terminal. I just recently switched to Lubuntu, and I've played on windows before, so I'm wondering what's going on. Thanks.
#965 [15:08] <URsvAir14> grey vuline, can u help me out
#966 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> URsvAir14 - Still waiting on that error report. I can't give you any directions until I can determine what is actually wrong
#967 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Betacrow - Could you share the error message via pastebin.com and give us the address to it?
#968 [15:08] <Betacrow> Sure, one second.
#969 [15:09] <URsvAir14> Im working on it but the error message seems to refuse to generate again
#970 [15:09] <Betacrow> http://pastebin.com/v5cymrh5
#971 [15:10] <Betacrow> It keeps going on like that.
#972 [15:10] <mfx_chan> i have already the same problem like this guy before. minecraft says it cant connect to minecraft.net but on other computers it works. i f*cking freakin out
#973 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Betacrow - Strange, it seems a problem with SSL authentication on your end. Could you try removing java completely and installing only sun java 6?
#974 [15:11] <mfx_chan> hab mal ne minecraft frage
#975 [15:11] <mfx_chan> sorry
#976 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net, the website?
#977 [15:12] <mfx_chan> it was the wrong window
#978 [15:12] <Betacrow> I can, I just happen to be totally unaware of how to do all but basic tasks in linux.
#979 [15:12] <Betacrow> I'll try it though.
#980 [15:12] <Shroom> Is this the depression help chat?
#981 [15:12] <Shroom> Is this the depression help chat?
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#984 [15:12] <mfx_chan> yes i can connect but i cant play there in browser
#985 [15:12] <Shroom> I think minecraft made me depressed.
#986 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - Not the place. Sorry.
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#988 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - Do you get any errors when trying to play in the browser?
#989 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - What operating system are you on?
#990 [15:14] <mfx_chan> no there is only a white screen
#991 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - What operating system are you on? Do you have any security software or firewall software installed on your computer?
#992 [15:15] <mfx_chan> i have a mac with 1.4.11 i think
#993 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - Ah, that would be why
#994 [15:15] <mfx_chan> but i havnt a sucurity software on it
#995 [15:15] <mfx_chan> why? is it too old?
#996 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> mfx_chan - When you joined here, you should've gotten a notice from one of our bots, concerning a mac issue
#997 [15:16] <mfx_chan> oh okey
#998 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Mac OSX 10.5 and older, currently have an incompatibility problem with minecraft 1.8.1
#999 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> This issue is addressed in 1.9, but won't be officially released until nov 19
#1000 [15:16] <mfx_chan> okey thank you ;)
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#1004 [15:22] <Betacrow> GreyVulpine: Would you happen to know how exactly to install SunJava 6 on (l)ubuntu 11.10?
#1005 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Haven't touched ubuntu in a long while, but it should just be as simple as sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#1006 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Provided you have the repo enabled
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#1008 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Then to make sun java default, you need to do sudo update-alternatives --config java
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#1010 [15:26] <Betacrow> How can I check if I have the repo enabled?
#1011 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Try "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" in your terminal. If it gives you an error, you don't have the multiverse repo enabled
#1012 [15:28] <Betacrow> I got an error, so apparently I do not.
#1013 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Betacrow - See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
#1014 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, under "The Sun Java 6 packages are available from the partner repository. You can configure your system to use this repository via command-line: "
#1015 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, sorry, gotta run though.
#1016 [15:31] <Betacrow> No problem. Thanks for the help.
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#1018 [15:33] <Marcus> Minecraft keeps crashing for me when I play on server
#1019 [15:33] <Marcus> exception java.net.socketexception software caused connection abort recv failed
#1020 [15:33] <Marcus> thats the error message I get^
#1021 [15:33] <Marcus> anyone know whats happening?
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#1025 [15:38] <mib_ee2ubq> when does the 1.9 officially come out? i mean no more pre release but the real 1.9 or 1.10
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#1028 [15:41] <skippydippy> Hi does anybody know anything about the pocket edition?
#1029 [15:42] <mib_ee2ubq> when does the 1.9 officially come out? i mean no more pre release but the real 1.9 or 1.10
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#1031 [15:42] <skippydippy> can anybody help me
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#1033 [15:43] <mib_ee2ubq> what do you want to know about the pocket edition?
#1034 [15:43] <thanarche> has minecraft.net been down for a really long time?
#1035 [15:44] <skippydippy> is there anyway i can make it work with my phone, and if not, will it ever be able to work on my phone
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#1037 [15:45] <mib_ee2ubq> mh. i dunno ... look at minecraft wiki for example
#1038 [15:45] <skippydippy> oh yeh, minecaft 1.9 comes out around the 17th november btw
#1039 [15:51] <mib_ee2ubq> oh thanks
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#1046 [16:10] <yoshi> hello?
#1047 [16:10] <yoshi> .....
#1048 [16:10] <yoshi> um..
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#1050 [16:11] <Maxime> bukkit
#1051 [16:11] <Maxime> #bukkit
#1052 [16:11] <yoshi> eh i dont know if i bought i gift code or not
#1053 [16:11] <yoshi> i didnt want to buy one..
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#1056 [16:26] <walent> Craaacked moodee ruuulleees
#1057 [16:28] <Scott> eh?
#1058 [16:28] <walent> Nvm
#1059 [16:28] <walent> im crazy
#1060 [16:28] <Thrae> walent: We don't allow talk about pirating here. Don't mention it again.
#1061 [16:29] <walent> I know. I wont.
#1062 [16:29] <walent> I know. I wont.
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#1065 [16:32] * Scott pirates Thrae
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#1077 [16:58] <tonyttt> hello?
#1078 [16:58] <almostroot> tonyttt: Hello.
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#1080 [16:59] <tonyttt> you can help with a mine craft problem, yes?
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#1082 [16:59] <almostroot> tonyttt: I can attempt to. What is your issue?
#1083 [16:59] <tonyttt> when I log into my account, it says "Login Failed" and I have to play offline
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#1092 [17:14] <byteman_p> wherw can I get account issue help?
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#1096 [17:27] <schnozzle> ive got a question
#1097 [17:27] <schnozzle> i bought the game, but now its not dowloading and shows no sign of it
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#1099 [17:30] <mib_c6189u> can somebody please help?
#1100 [17:34] <almostroot> mib_c6189u: Yes?
#1101 [17:35] <almostroot> mib_c6189u: About to reboot, so ask quickly if you still need help.
#1102 [17:38] <mib_c6189u> i had baught the gamne but is showing no signof downloading
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#1104 [17:38] <almostroot> mib_c6189u: What does that mean exactly? What happens?
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#1108 [17:42] <mib_c6189u> i paid forit, it basically said thank you and then sent me to my profile. it hasnt downloaded and is showng no sign of it, and im not sure how to see if it is
#1109 [17:42] <rymate1234> well...
#1110 [17:42] <rymate1234> to download
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#1112 [17:42] <almostroot> mib_c6189u: You have to download the client, log in and let it update.
#1113 [17:42] <rymate1234> go to homepage
#1114 [17:42] <almostroot> !client
#1115 [17:42] <rymate1234> look up for download ^_^
#1116 [17:43] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I kepe hearing that essentials sucks, blabla, Weve a list of the plugins we use, anyone feeling like giving critics, or advice or alternatives to my list? http://pastebin.com/yjvsK2ha help really appriciated
#1117 [17:43] <almostroot> SupaYoshi: We don't support bukkit here. Try #bukkit for help.
#1118 [17:43] <SupaYoshi> àh ok :D
#1119 [17:43] <SupaYoshi> top man :p thnx
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#1124 [17:47] <krebbit> so when i try to play minecraft classic single player the screen does java loading and then stays black is there a way to fix this issue?
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#1126 [17:48] <rymate1234> lol
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#1128 [17:48] <rymate1234> hi
#1129 [17:48] <krebbit> is there a way to fix it?
#1130 [17:48] <michael> !check michaelsloan53661
#1131 [17:49] <rymate1234> wat
#1132 [17:49] <michael> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#1133 [17:49] <krebbit> so when i try to play minecraft classic single player the screen does java loading and then stays black is there a way to fix this issue?
#1134 [17:49] <rymate1234> !check rymate.dyndns.org
#1135 [17:50] <krebbit> when i try to play minecraft classic single player the screen does java loading and then stays black is there a way to fix this issue?
#1136 [17:50] <rymate1234> lol
#1137 [17:50] <rymate1234> you said that 3 times
#1138 [17:50] <krebbit> is there a way to fix it?
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#1140 [17:51] <rymate1234> people can scroll up you know
#1141 [17:51] <rymate1234> people can scroll up you know
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#1143 [17:51] <krebbit> i thought it would be useful to repeat since i wasnt getting an answer
#1144 [17:51] <rymate1234> lol
#1145 [17:51] <rymate1234> lol
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#1147 [17:51] <krebbit> do you know a way to fix it?
#1148 [17:51] <rymate1234> thats not going to help
#1149 [17:51] <almostroot> krebbit: That's called spam. Don't do it again. Check your Java version, update if needed.
#1150 [17:52] <almostroot> ??> krebbit java/version
#1151 [17:52] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1152 [17:52] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1153 [17:52] <rymate1234> ye that
#1154 [17:52] <krebbit> what version do we need?
#1155 [17:53] <slide> hrm ok i think i got it slightly working, but there is still a bug where i have to manually zoom it futher out then it can and only then it will use the right size tiles
#1156 [17:53] <almostroot> krebbit: The latest. Version 6 update 29.
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#1161 [17:58] <slide> damnit
#1162 [17:58] <slide> why does chat keep switching me here so i type random stuff meant for other channels arg
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#1164 [18:02] <Dead> I'm having trouble logging in.
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#1173 [18:41] <guest-0-30396> can anybody help me?
#1174 [18:42] <guest-0-30396> hello
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#1176 [18:44] <rymate1234> hi guest-0-30396
#1177 [18:44] <rymate1234> what seems to be the problem?
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#1179 [18:45] <cornelius> can anyone help me out?
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#1181 [18:46] <lildrummerdrew> hrm.
#1182 [18:46] <lildrummerdrew> Been a while.
#1183 [18:47] <cornelius> can anyone help me out
#1184 [18:47] <lildrummerdrew> I could attempt.
#1185 [18:47] <lildrummerdrew> Problem?
#1186 [18:47] <cornelius> my minecraft window does not pop up when I launch it. It doesn't work on the website either
#1187 [18:47] <rymate1234> hmm
#1188 [18:47] <rymate1234> cornelius: do you have java?
#1189 [18:48] <lildrummerdrew> indeed.
#1190 [18:48] <cornelius> yes
#1191 [18:48] <lildrummerdrew> ??> cornelius java/version
#1192 [18:48] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1193 [18:48] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1194 [18:48] <cornelius> I updated it earlier today
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#1196 [18:48] <lildrummerdrew> what os?
#1197 [18:48] <lildrummerdrew> windows, mac, linux...?
#1198 [18:48] <cornelius> windows
#1199 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> hm. Are you an administrator on the computer?
#1200 [18:49] <cornelius> i got a java log/ error file but I deleted it...
#1201 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> o.o
#1202 [18:49] <cornelius> yes i am admin
#1203 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> deleting is bad >.>
#1204 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> and alrighty. hrm. I have an idea..
#1205 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> ??>> cornelius teamviewer
#1206 [18:49] <lildrummerdrew> ??< teamviewer
#1207 [18:49] <cornelius> I know tht now, als I set my recycle bin to auto delete stuff whenever something is placed there, for security issues
#1208 [18:50] <lildrummerdrew> please undo that action?
#1209 [18:50] <lildrummerdrew> also, look at the link I sent you.
#1210 [18:51] <Thrae> cornelius: Try using this batch file to launch Minecraft, placing it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe. It will give you diagnostic information and try to determine what the problem is -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DiagnoseMinecraft.bat
#1211 [18:51] <lildrummerdrew> >.> Really Thrae?
#1212 [18:52] <lildrummerdrew> I like my way better, really isolates the problem. Plus, a second advice category, adding onto someone else in an irrelevant fashion can confuse the "helpee" really easily.
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#1214 [18:52] <Thrae> lildrummerdrew: If you actually look at the batch file it does try to isolate the issue.
#1215 [18:53] <lildrummerdrew> Thrae, I know, I've run it
#1216 [18:53] <lildrummerdrew> But, problem being, it may not be a java issue, especially should it not launch
#1217 [18:53] <lildrummerdrew> Also, I know the person who wrote it, so I should know how well it works.
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#1219 [18:53] <lildrummerdrew> And, t'would appear he clicked the link without a new tab.
#1220 [18:54] <Thrae> lildrummerdrew: ? I wrote that batch file.
#1221 [18:54] <lildrummerdrew> Thrae, wait, there's a new one?
#1222 [18:54] <lildrummerdrew> Cause I recall the old one.
#1223 [18:54] <Thrae> I wrote that batch file from scratch.
#1224 [18:54] <lildrummerdrew> We had another.
#1225 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> ??< index
#1226 [18:55] <Thrae> It's not officially hosted yet.
#1227 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> hrm.
#1228 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> ??< 1.9/snow
#1229 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> O.O
#1230 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> FFF....
#1231 [18:55] <lildrummerdrew> xD
#1232 [18:56] <lildrummerdrew> Oh so they fixed vox.
#1233 [18:56] <Thrae> It detects memory problems, ! problems, some Java problems, and driver issues and applies fixes if it can (and suggests otherwise).
#1234 [18:57] <lildrummerdrew> Hrm. Not bad.
#1235 [18:57] <lildrummerdrew> I still liked the old one though.
#1236 [18:57] <lildrummerdrew> Glad I kept a copy.
#1237 [18:58] <Thrae> Well it's not official yet. I'm still adding to it.
#1238 [19:00] <lildrummerdrew> I could tell, no offense.
#1239 [19:00] <lildrummerdrew> I'm looking at the code and playing. Not the best utilization, but still pretty good.
#1240 [19:00] <lildrummerdrew> Now if only it worked with AnjoCaido's version, though not supported, people would love you xD
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#1242 [19:02] <Thrae> Looks online this looks like a pirated version...
#1243 [19:02] <Thrae> Or is this just for Classic?
#1244 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> It definitely is. Heh.
#1245 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> It's a cracked version.
#1246 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> The point being, though not supported, people would love you if it worked with both.
#1247 [19:03] <Thrae> Yeah, not only is that not supported, we ban for talking about that here.
#1248 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> I know
#1249 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> .But I'm not supportingit
#1250 [19:03] <lildrummerdrew> :)
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#1254 [19:22] <figaro> hi
#1255 [19:22] <figaro> my minecraft wont open
#1256 [19:22] <figaro> at all
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#1258 [19:29] <shmoo> i bought the game but now how do i play it?
#1259 [19:30] <shmoo> as in where do i go to play it.
#1260 [19:30] <TheBadShepperd> !client
#1261 [19:31] <shmoo> witch is best
#1262 [19:32] <shmoo> i still need some help
#1263 [19:34] <rymate1234> shmoo: u use windows?
#1264 [19:34] <Thrae> shmoo: Do you have Windows, Linux, or Mac OS X? You download the one for your OS.
#1265 [19:35] <rymate1234> lol
#1266 [19:35] <rymate1234> why don't mibbiters have patience
#1267 [19:36] <rymate1234> or more tothe point, why doesn't mojang have some help on the website for installing minecraft
#1268 [19:37] <Thrae> Programmers tend to both disbelieve users can be that stupid while also having contempt for them.
#1269 [19:37] <rymate1234> lol
#1270 [19:38] <rymate1234> but this is the INTERNET
#1271 [19:38] <Thrae> Being able to properly support an OS and being able to program are two very different things...I think Notch doesn't really like Windows, for instance, yet most of his users use it.
#1272 [19:38] * rymate1234 is away: Gotta sleep baizzzzzzzzzz
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#1274 [19:41] <mr_wibble> hey i need some help with my minecraft
#1275 [19:43] <Silent_Samurai> I would help.
#1276 [19:43] <Silent_Samurai> But I can't.
#1277 [19:43] <Silent_Samurai> Since you haven't said what the issue is.
#1278 [19:43] <mr_wibble> touche
#1279 [19:44] <mr_wibble> when i try running minecraft, it takes forever to load up the main screen after i login and then once i do get to the main screen its frozen and i have to shut it down using task manager
#1280 [19:44] <mr_wibble> the only way i can get it to work after this happens is by restarting my computer
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#1282 [19:45] <munky> help me pleases
#1283 [19:46] <munky> how do i get 64-bit java and should i get it?
#1284 [19:46] <Thrae> :j
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#1286 [19:47] <Thrae> munky: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp should have it if it detects you have 64-bit Windows.
#1287 [19:47] <munky> minecraft says i should have 64-java to play on far and i dont have its
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#1289 [19:47] <munky> Windows 7, XP Offline (64-bit)- i click this one?
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#1291 [19:47] <Thrae> munky: You don't need 64-bit Java to play on Far, it just needs 64-bit to allocate more than 1.4GB of RAM. What's your total RAM?
#1292 [19:48] <Thrae> munky: Yes
#1293 [19:48] <munky> i have 8 ram
#1294 [19:48] <Thrae> 8GB you mean?
#1295 [19:48] <mib_jdd16q> Hey everyone, I just bought the game, and downloaded the client, and It wont even open, my cursor goes to load-mode then back to cursor in 2 seconds
#1296 [19:48] <munky> yea
#1297 [19:48] <munky> 8gb ddr3 memory
#1298 [19:49] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: Using Windows?
#1299 [19:49] <mib_jdd16q> yeah
#1300 [19:49] <mib_jdd16q> windows 7
#1301 [19:50] <munky> is there any down side to java 64 bit becuase i heard it could cause problems?
#1302 [19:50] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: Try using this batch file to launch Minecraft, placing it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe. It will give you diagnostic information and try to determine what the problem is -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DiagnoseMinecraft.bat
#1303 [19:50] <Thrae> munky: Nope, 64-bit is recommended on 64-bit OSes.
#1304 [19:50] <mr_wibble> can anyone help me with my problem?
#1305 [19:50] <munky> ok ill uninstall the jaja i have and download that then i guess
#1306 [19:50] <Thrae> mr_wibble: Try using the above batch file I just linked ^^^^
#1307 [19:51] <mib_jdd16q> k brb ima try it
#1308 [19:51] <Thrae> munky: You can have both 32-bit and 64-bit Java on 64-bit Windows -- your browser is most likely 32-bit and will use 32-bit Java
#1309 [19:51] <munky> hm, ok so i dont unsintall the one i have first?
#1310 [19:51] <Thrae> munky: Not unless it's Java 7
#1311 [19:52] <munky> ok ill go downoad it and see what happens :)
#1312 [19:53] <mib_jdd16q> hey so thrae, I clicked diagnostic thing and it sayd "warning cannot find minecraft.exe launcher in current directory."
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#1314 [19:54] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: Yeah, it needs Minecraft.exe in the current directory. If you're on Vista/7 it'll try to download it for you, if you're on XP it'll try to find it for you.
#1315 [19:55] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: It should tell you what it's doing.
#1316 [19:55] <mib_jdd16q> im on windows 7, and i downloaded it twice, so its on my desktop and in the "downloads" window
#1317 [19:56] <Thrae> The batch file doesn't say anything after that warning?
#1318 [19:56] <mib_jdd16q> it says a bunch
#1319 [19:56] <mib_jdd16q> hold on
#1320 [19:57] <mib_jdd16q> after that warning it says......
#1321 [19:57] <munky> i got java 64 ow :)
#1322 [19:57] <mib_jdd16q> downloading minecraft.exe from minecraft.net...
#1323 [19:57] <mib_jdd16q> BITSAdmin version 3.0 (7.5.7600 )
#1324 [19:57] <mib_jdd16q> Bits administration utilityu. ,C. Copyright bla bla bla
#1325 [19:58] <mib_jdd16q> btisadmin is deprecated and is not guaranteed to be available in future bersion dlets.
#1326 [19:58] <mib_jdd16q> invalid argument. ERROR:could not ownload minecraft..exe! try http://blab la and download yourself.exiting. press any key to continue
#1327 [19:58] <mib_jdd16q> thats all it says
#1328 [19:58] <Wug> I have no idea what bitsadmin is, but uninstall it
#1329 [19:59] <mib_jdd16q> maybe a virus?
#1330 [19:59] <Thrae> Wug: bitsadmin is part of Windows Vista/7 :)
#1331 [19:59] <Wug> Thrae: I've never seen or heard of it before
#1332 [19:59] * GreyVulpine has also never heard of it
#1332 [19:59] <Booreas> ^
#1333 [19:59] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: Nah, just sounds like it couldn't download Minecraft.exe for whatever reason...hmm...well, just place the batch file on your desktop and run it again
#1334 [19:59] <Wug> it is apparently a microsoft tool though
#1335 [20:00] <Wug> stop using internet explorer
#1336 [20:00] <mib_jdd16q> kk brb
#1337 [20:00] <Thrae> AFAIK it is the only Microsoft tool that allows direct HTTP downloads, which is why I used it as part of my diagnostic batch file
#1338 [20:00] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1338 [20:00] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: Also out of curiosity, can you access http://www.minecraft.net?
#1339 [20:01] <Thrae> *direct HTTP downloads via CLI and is included in versions of Windows
#1340 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> yep i can access minecraft.net
#1341 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> and ok
#1342 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> so i did the batch file thing on my desktop
#1343 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> and now it says....
#1344 [20:02] <Wug> Thrae: autohotkey has features for packing and unpacking files from scripts and downloading files via http
#1345 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> warning couldnt find java 6 or 7 JRE searching registry..
#1346 [20:02] <Wug> you might want to look into it, its better than bash
#1347 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> ERROR the system was unable to find the specified restry key or value
#1348 [20:02] <Wug> and by bash I mean batch
#1349 [20:02] <mib_jdd16q> cant find java, please install from java.com..
#1350 [20:03] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: You don't have Java properly installed -- http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1351 [20:03] <Wug> ??> mib_jdd16q teamviewer
#1352 [20:03] <VoxelHead> mib_jdd16q: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1353 [20:03] <VoxelHead> mib_jdd16q: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1354 [20:03] <Thrae> Just as the batch file said :)
#1355 [20:03] * GreyVulpine pokes thrae
#1355 [20:03] <mib_jdd16q> but i installed java like 10 min ago
#1356 [20:03] <mib_jdd16q> ill try again
#1357 [20:03] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: ?
#1358 [20:03] <Wug> ??> mib_jdd16q teamviewer
#1359 [20:03] <VoxelHead> mib_jdd16q: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1360 [20:03] <VoxelHead> mib_jdd16q: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1361 [20:03] * Wug pokes GreyVulpine
#1361 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Why not just do
#1362 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> c:\windows\explorer.exe https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1363 [20:04] <Wug> does that work
#1364 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Try it
#1365 [20:05] <mib_jdd16q> wait do you want me to click those links?
#1366 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> No
#1367 [20:05] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Wouldn't that place it in whatever the default downloads directory is for the default browser they have installed? On my system it pops up Chrome.
#1368 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
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#1370 [20:06] <mib_jdd16q> Thrae it says in program files i have java 6 and 7
#1371 [20:06] <mib_jdd16q> should i uninstall and reinstal?
#1372 [20:06] <Thrae> mib_jdd16q: You can just take up Wug's offer of using TeamViewer and he'll fix your problem
#1373 [20:06] <mib_jdd16q> k
#1374 [20:07] <mib_jdd16q> ill try
#1375 [20:07] <mib_jdd16q> how do i use teamview
#1376 [20:07] <mib_jdd16q> just clikc the link?
#1377 [20:07] <Wug> read the directions
#1378 [20:07] <Wug> err...
#1379 [20:07] <Wug> yeah, just download it and run it
#1380 [20:08] <mib_jdd16q> k brb
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#1382 [20:09] <mib_whvpis> when i try running minecraft, if i didn't just turn on my computer its maxes my computer usage to 100%. i have a 3.2 ghz dual core processor. is there anything i can do?
#1383 [20:09] <mib_jdd16q> k my id is 141 270 161
#1384 [20:09] <mib_jdd16q> 4576 is the password
#1385 [20:10] <Wug> ok, I'm conencted
#1386 [20:10] <Thrae> mib_whvpis: Hmm, running any mods or texture packs?
#1387 [20:10] <Wug> show me what you're trying to do and why it isnt working
#1388 [20:10] <mib_jdd16q> so you can see what im doin right now?
#1389 [20:10] <Wug> yep
#1390 [20:10] <mib_jdd16q> lol k
#1391 [20:10] <mib_whvpis> i have one texture pack but its not installed. it freezes up at the start screen
#1392 [20:11] <mib_whvpis> by not installed i mean i rarely use it
#1393 [20:11] <Wug> mib_jdd16q: just nothing?
#1394 [20:11] <mib_jdd16q> lol
#1395 [20:11] <mib_jdd16q> saw that?
#1396 [20:11] <mib_jdd16q> yep nothin
#1397 [20:11] <Wug> h/o
#1398 [20:12] <Thrae> mib_whvpis: Delete the texture pack, then in the launcher go to "Force Update" and try Minecraft again.
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#1400 [20:13] <mib_jdd16q> ?? java
#1401 [20:13] <mib_whvpis> it still maxes when its at the mojang start screen
#1402 [20:14] <Wug> crap, I cant remember what the factoid is called
#1403 [20:14] <Thrae> :java
#1404 [20:14] <Thrae> ...If WugBot was here
#1405 [20:14] <Thrae> ??< getjava
#1406 [20:15] <Wug> it timed out earlier
#1407 [20:15] <Wug> I need to make it reconnect
#1408 [20:15] <Thrae> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#1409 [20:16] <Wug> alright, you need to do this because its specific to how you see your monitor
#1410 [20:16] <lewis> hey, ive set up a multi player server and its running, my port forwarding is set up fine and i can access fine but no one else can, other people have been able to before but i can remember the login info, they are using my ip (from ipchicken.com) with a colon then 25565, sill no luck, any thoughts?
#1411 [20:17] <mib_jdd16q> just lcick next?
#1412 [20:17] <Wug> just do the stuff
#1413 [20:17] <mib_jdd16q> k
#1414 [20:17] <mib_jdd16q> OMF
#1415 [20:17] <mib_jdd16q> did you do it!?!?!
#1416 [20:18] <Wug> I've seen this before
#1417 [20:18] <mib_jdd16q> your a wizard
#1418 [20:18] <mib_jdd16q> lol
#1419 [20:18] <Wug> :)
#1420 [20:18] <mib_jdd16q> so its all good now?
#1421 [20:18] <Wug> yep
#1422 [20:18] <mib_jdd16q> dude
#1423 [20:18] <mib_jdd16q> holly fuck
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#1426 [20:18] <Wug> also pulled down 64 bit java, since you only had 32bit
#1427 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> sweet
#1428 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> id give you money if i had any
#1429 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> lol
#1430 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> leavin for thailand in 9 days
#1431 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> leavin for thailand in 9 days
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#1433 [20:19] <Wug> if all you're doing with java is minecraft you can uninstall any version of java that isnt 6 update 29
#1434 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> do you need java for online movies n stufF
#1435 [20:19] <mib_jdd16q> shterf
#1436 [20:20] <Wug> mib_jdd16q: no, you'll be fine
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#1438 [20:20] <mib_jdd16q> awesome thanks again man that was entertaining
#1439 [20:20] <Wug> you'd know if you needed a specific version for something
#1440 [20:20] <mib_jdd16q> man wanna be my computer guy and ill paypall you money?
#1441 [20:20] <mib_jdd16q> in the near future
#1442 [20:20] <Wug> no
#1443 [20:21] <mib_jdd16q> :'(
#1444 [20:21] <mib_jdd16q> lol
#1445 [20:21] <mib_jdd16q> oookaay
#1446 [20:21] <mib_jdd16q> thanks again
#1447 [20:21] <Wug> I have too much to do.
#1448 [20:21] <Wug> no problem
#1449 [20:21] <mib_jdd16q> ill be back in a min if it doesnt work, peace!
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#1452 [20:27] <WolfBeaumont> Yo, anyone up for working on a minecraft comedy skit pilot?
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#1455 [20:49] <TheNytangel> Hally Happoween
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#1460 [20:55] <Booreas> :D
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#1467 [21:32] <dhaag091698> hi
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#1470 [21:33] <dhaag091698> hi
#1471 [21:34] <lagboss> hey when i try to run beta it say i have a bad video card driver what should i do?
#1472 [21:35] <lagboss> can anyone help me?
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#1474 [21:36] <lagboss> hey when i try to run beta it say i have a bad video card driver what should i do?
#1475 [21:36] <JohnEBH> ??> lagboss win/dxdiag
#1476 [21:36] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1477 [21:36] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1478 [21:39] <lagboss> i am not very techy so im not gettin this sorry
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#1480 [21:39] <Ryladine> lagboss where are you getting lost in the instructions?
#1481 [21:40] <lagboss> Win+R keys?
#1482 [21:40] <lagboss> ik its bad
#1483 [21:40] <JohnEBH> lagboss- you failure.
#1484 [21:40] <Thrae> ?? winkey
#1485 [21:40] <JohnEBH> ??> lagboss win/key
#1486 [21:40] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1487 [21:40] <Ryladine> The win key, is the key between control and alt, it has a falg on it.
#1488 [21:40] <Ryladine> flag*
#1489 [21:41] <JohnEBH> falg's are those things that look like a window but aren't =P (Sarcasm)
#1490 [21:41] <lagboss> oh ok i gotcha ik what that is lol
#1491 [21:41] <Ryladine> lol
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#1493 [21:45] <Ryladine> ??> dhaag091698 dont/pm
#1494 [21:45] <VoxelHead> dhaag091698: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#1496 [21:45] <Ryladine> Now, can you explain how it didn't work dhaag091698?
#1497 [21:45] <JohnEBH> lol Pm's
#1498 [21:45] <Ryladine> lol
#1499 [21:45] <lagboss> got it
#1500 [21:46] <lagboss> http://pastebin.com/2dY44xuU now what
#1501 [21:46] <dhaag091698> ya i think it was because i tried to update the game without connecting it to minecraft.net
#1502 [21:46] <Thrae> dhaag091698: What's your Minecraft username?
#1503 [21:46] <dhaag091698> 22336611
#1504 [21:46] <Ryladine> Its not possible to update the game without connecting it to minecraft.net, it simply would not work.
#1505 [21:46] <Ryladine> !paid 22336611
#1506 [21:47] <Ryladine> Aubot your slow on the pickup toda
#1507 [21:47] <Thrae> dhaag091698: Are you pirating Minecraft?
#1508 [21:47] <Ryladine> today*
#1509 [21:47] <dhaag091698> no
#1510 [21:47] <Thrae> lagboss: Go to Edit->Select All before you copy.
#1511 [21:47] <lagboss> k
#1512 [21:47] <JohnEBH> I love working with half finished logs
#1513 [21:47] <Ryladine> dhaag091698: You said you had bought the game recently?
#1514 [21:47] <dhaag091698> this afternoon
#1515 [21:47] <Thrae> ?? payment
#1516 [21:47] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1517 [21:47] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1518 [21:48] <Ryladine> It may be a bit longer before your account can update the game, please give it some more time.
#1519 [21:48] <dhaag091698> ok but even with my friends login it wouldent work
#1520 [21:49] <Ryladine> I'm afraid I won't assist you until you are using your own account.
#1521 [21:49] <lagboss> http://pastebin.com/32MBVS56 here you go for reals now
#1522 [21:49] <dhaag091698> what do you mean
#1523 [21:49] <dhaag091698> i couldent even play it
#1524 [21:49] <JohnEBH> lagboss- http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19412&ProdId=2991&lang=eng
#1525 [21:49] <Thrae> dhaag091698: We only help people with paid accounts or with Minecraft Classic.
#1526 [21:50] <JohnEBH> lagboss- Download and install, chances are they may or may not work
#1527 [21:50] <dhaag091698> he wanted to play it when he cameover for the weekend
#1528 [21:50] <JohnEBH> lagboss- Your card is old =P
#1529 [21:50] <Thrae> ?? gpu/intel/opengl
#1530 [21:50] <Ryladine> dhaag091698: wait until your account is registered as premium and come back.
#1531 [21:50] <dhaag091698> ok
#1532 [21:50] <Thrae> ??> lagboss win/gpu/intel
#1533 [21:50] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#1534 [21:50] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
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#1536 [21:51] <lagboss> thank you all soo much tell you if it works
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#1538 [21:53] <Rebelord> Hello all
#1539 [21:53] <Rebelord> I have a question about setting up a personal minecraft server.
#1540 [21:54] <Rebelord> For some reason the world I setup is completely under water?!?
#1541 [21:55] <Rebelord> Anyone out there not afk?
#1542 [21:55] <Thrae> Rebelord: Tried a new world?
#1543 [21:56] <Rebelord> You mean a new sead
#1544 [21:56] <Rebelord> seed
#1545 [21:56] <lagboss> none of those downloads worked :(
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#1547 [21:56] <Thrae> Rebelord: No, deleting the world and letting it re-create it
#1548 [21:56] <Rebelord> Yeah I did
#1549 [21:56] <Thrae> lagboss: What happened with the batch file?
#1550 [21:56] <Rebelord> I deleted and started again but still under water
#1551 [21:57] <lagboss> oh ik why it was for windows xp and i have 7
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#1553 [21:57] <Thrae> lagboss: Your DxDiag information says you have Windows XP. Are you using a different computer?
#1554 [21:58] <lagboss> no
#1555 [21:58] <JohnEBH> His dxdiag clearly said xp
#1556 [21:58] <JohnEBH> So I got him xp
#1557 [21:58] <Rebelord> Thrae: Any ideas on why that would happen
#1558 [21:58] <lagboss> but im pretty sure its 7
#1559 [21:58] <Thrae> lagboss: Then you have Windows XP.
#1560 [21:58] <Thrae> lagboss: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/which-version-of-the-windows-operating-system-am-i-running
#1561 [21:58] * JohnEBH never trust the end user when there's computer generated evidence. =P
#1561 [21:58] <Rebelord> lol
#1562 [22:00] <lagboss> mkayy it says xp you know my computer better then i do
#1563 [22:00] <lagboss> lol
#1564 [22:01] <Thrae> lagboss: So what happened when you used the batch file?
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#1567 [22:02] <umopaplsdn> Hello
#1568 [22:02] <umopaplsdn> ?
#1569 [22:02] <Companion_Cuybe> Hello all, I am having some issues. Let me summarize them.
#1570 [22:02] <Rebelord> Was wondering if someone could help me figure out why my personal minecraft server generated completely under water?
#1571 [22:02] <Thrae> umopaplsdn: Whatever you do, don't tell us what you want us to help you with
#1572 [22:02] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- Just keep generating new maps
#1573 [22:02] <Companion_Cuybe> On my previous laptop I could easily host a bukkit server as a test server for new plugins, ect..
#1574 [22:02] <umopaplsdn> How do I contact Mojang for billing support?
#1575 [22:02] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- Ocean biomes seem to be common =P
#1576 [22:02] <Companion_Cuybe> But on my new laptop I cannot do such a thing. All ports are forwarded also.
#1577 [22:02] <Thrae> ??> umopaplsdn payment
#1578 [22:03] <VoxelHead> umopaplsdn: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1579 [22:03] <JohnEBH> ??> umopaplsdn support
#1580 [22:03] <Companion_Cuybe> What do you all suggest?
#1581 [22:03] <VoxelHead> umopaplsdn: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1582 [22:03] <VoxelHead> umopaplsdn: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1583 [22:03] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Just delete the world folder and restarting server?
#1584 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Woops
#1585 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- Yesh
#1586 [22:03] <umopaplsdn> Ok, thank you.
#1587 [22:03] <umopaplsdn> It's been like 10 hours already
#1588 [22:03] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Thanks, I'll be back with a status update on what happens.
#1589 [22:04] <Companion_Cuybe> I am having an issue trying to host a server on my new laptop. It is connected to the same router as my old laptop which hosted a server fine. Does anyone have an suggestions?
#1590 [22:04] <Thrae> umopaplsdn: Before you contact Mojang I suggest you contact your bank or card issuer first to see if the payment was actually made -- sometimes it's stopped because it's an international transfer
#1591 [22:04] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Your laptop has a different IP address than your other computer
#1592 [22:04] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: You just need to grab your local IPv4 address again
#1593 [22:05] <lagboss> it said the driver being installed for this computer is not validated
#1594 [22:05] <Companion_Cuybe> I need to forward that IPv4 address?
#1595 [22:05] <lagboss> and to obtain the appropriate driver
#1596 [22:05] <Thrae> umopaplsdn: If you got an error in the transaction and then hit the 'Back' button, the payment did not go through if you tried it again even if it said it did
#1597 [22:05] <Thrae> ??> lagboss win/gpu/intel
#1598 [22:05] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#1599 [22:05] <VoxelHead> lagboss: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#1600 [22:05] <Thrae> lagboss: Use that batch file ^^^^^^
#1601 [22:06] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Yep
#1602 [22:06] <lagboss> ok
#1603 [22:08] <lagboss> how am i supposed to launch it with that cause i keep trying but keep failing
#1604 [22:09] <Thrae> lagboss: Place it in the same location as Minecraft.exe. If Minecraft.exe is on your desktop, then place it on your desktop.
#1605 [22:09] <lagboss> k
#1606 [22:10] <lagboss> then just launch minecraft and log in?
#1607 [22:11] <Thrae> lagboss: Yes.
#1608 [22:11] <Thrae> lagboss: You run the batch file, which will launch Minecraft.
#1609 [22:11] <lagboss> ok
#1610 [22:12] <lagboss> it just opens up an error log
#1611 [22:13] <Thrae> lagboss: Copy the contents of the error log to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#1613 [22:13] <lagboss> ok
#1614 [22:14] <lagboss> http://pastebin.com/1D0kKFGe here you go
#1615 [22:14] <Thrae> lagboss: That means you did not place it in the same folder as Minecraft.exe.
#1616 [22:15] <lagboss> they are both on my desktop
#1617 [22:15] <Thrae> lagboss: Then it's not named "Minecraft.exe". Did you rename it?
#1618 [22:15] <Thrae> Is it named something like Minecraft (1) ?
#1619 [22:15] <lagboss> mkayy it changed itself to (minecraft1)
#1620 [22:15] <lagboss> change it back?
#1621 [22:16] <Thrae> Rename it to "Minecraft"
#1622 [22:16] <Thrae> (without quotes)
#1623 [22:18] <lagboss> OMG i love you soooo much (it worked) i dont know how i can thank you enough i <3 you
#1624 [22:18] <Thrae> lagboss: Alright, you'll just have to use the batch file from now on to launch Minecraft.
#1625 [22:19] <lagboss> ok im fine with that thank you
#1626 [22:19] <lagboss> lagboss out
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#1628 [22:21] <Guest90269> Hello, is there anyone here that can help me?
#1629 [22:21] <Companion_Cuybe> Alright Thrae.
#1630 [22:21] <Companion_Cuybe> I am backeth and I have done that.
#1631 [22:21] <Companion_Cuybe> Still no luck with connecting to my IP.
#1632 [22:23] <Guest90269> I was playing on my server, and all of a sudden all of my stuff became all zoomed in, so I tried force updating and since then I can't force update or anything,
#1633 [22:23] <Thrae> ;ip Companion_Cuybe
#1634 [22:23] <Companion_Cuybe> 24.210.90.88
#1635 [22:24] <Thrae> !check 24.210.90.88
#1636 [22:24] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Are you running the server right now?
#1637 [22:24] <Companion_Cuybe> Yes.
#1638 [22:25] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Did you use your IPv4 address listed in ipconfig ?
#1639 [22:25] <Companion_Cuybe> Yes sir
#1640 [22:26] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Did you login to your router and forward TCP/UDP port 25565 to this IP?
#1641 [22:27] <Guest90269> When I click login, it says there is a new update available. If I click yes it loads to 88% then stops, if i click no it goes to aa black screen
#1642 [22:27] <Thrae> Guest90269: Are you running on Windows?
#1643 [22:27] <Companion_Cuybe> Thrae, could you try one more time?
#1644 [22:27] <Guest90269> thrae, yes. Window
#1645 [22:27] <Guest90269> Window's 7 *
#1646 [22:27] <Companion_Cuybe> When your done with Gues90269
#1647 [22:27] <Companion_Cuybe> Guest, Have you forced an update?
#1648 [22:28] <Guest90269> yes thats what i get when i force update, it usually just goes to 3% then stops
#1649 [22:28] <Thrae> Guest90269: Disable your Anti-Virus and any other security software and it should work.
#1650 [22:28] <Companion_Cuybe> Alright, Locate your .minecraft folder and delete your minecraft.jar
#1651 [22:28] <Companion_Cuybe> Or that.
#1652 [22:28] <Guest90269> there is no minecraft.jar anymore
#1653 [22:29] <Guest90269> and that might be the issue, I have a new firewall that might be stopping it
#1654 [22:30] <Thrae> ??> Companion_Cuybe dont/pm
#1655 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Companion_Cuybe: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#1657 [22:30] <Companion_Cuybe> I am providing personal information
#1658 [22:31] <Companion_Cuybe> Not personal, private*
#1659 [22:32] <Guest90269> that didnt work. It when to 89%and stopped again
#1660 [22:32] <Thrae> Guest90269: Disable AV too
#1661 [22:33] <Guest90269> There is no way to disable it
#1662 [22:34] <Companion_Cuybe> Guest, which AV do you use?
#1663 [22:34] <Companion_Cuybe> Also type /nick (Newname) please :)
#1664 [22:34] <Thrae> !check 24.210.90.88
#1665 [22:35] <Guest90269> I'm using a Linux terminal based program called Irssi that doesnt work I tried. And my AV Is AVG 2012
#1666 [22:35] <Thrae> Guest90269: AVG is notorious for causing problems with Java and LWJGL, which Minecraft uses.
#1667 [22:36] <Thrae> Guest90269: http://free.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-2429 <-- same thing applies to your version
#1668 [22:36] <Guest90269> I never had a problem out of minecraft until right now.
#1669 [22:36] <Thrae> Guest90269: And I also use IRSSI and can confirm "/nick name" works fine
#1670 [22:37] <Guest90269> Did you see the main problem? Somehow I got zoomed in and I had no idea how it happened or how to reverse it
#1671 [22:37] <Thrae> !check localhost
#1672 [22:38] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Thanks for your help I got my server working
#1673 [22:38] <Thrae> Guest90269: Zoomed in? On what?
#1674 [22:38] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- No problem <:
#1675 [22:39] <Companion_Cuybe> Don't they give the Minecraft.jar on minecraft.net?
#1676 [22:39] <Guest90269> No thats illegal
#1677 [22:39] <Rebelord> No I'm just trying to see if I can trasnfer my singleplayer save as an option
#1678 [22:39] <Guest90269> and the screen that you play on
#1679 [22:39] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Just a version of the launcher in JAR format
#1680 [22:39] <Thrae> Guest90269: Close and re-open
#1681 [22:39] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- Also I forgot to mention you can edit maps using MCedit
#1682 [22:40] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- You can also edit spawns using that >.<
#1683 [22:40] <Companion_Cuybe> Thrae. I love you. Have a nice night.
#1684 [22:40] <Companion_Cuybe> -No Homo-
#1685 [22:40] <Rebelord> oo Interesting
#1686 [22:40] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- that could've helped xD
#1687 [22:40] <Guest90269> I did, thats what lead me to beleive, to try for updating and it all went down frmo there
#1688 [22:40] <JohnEBH> ??> Rebelord mcedit
#1689 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Rebelord: (mcedit) http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1690 [22:40] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Yeah that would have made a big diff lol
#1691 [22:40] <Companion_Cuybe> ??> Rebelord (heroes)
#1692 [22:40] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- My bad on derping xD
#1693 [22:40] <Companion_Cuybe> ??> Rebelord (Worldedit)
#1694 [22:41] <Guest90269> AVG id disabled, now it gets to 44% and stops
#1695 [22:41] <dariushall21> Got the nickname to work too
#1696 [22:42] <Thrae> dariushall21: Well it's definitely a program that's running on your computer. Follow these instructions for using Selective Startup with MSCONFIG -- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560
#1697 [22:42] <dariushall21> Will that still work on my computer even tho that says Windows XP?
#1698 [22:42] <Thrae> dariushall21: Easiest way would be to use Diagnostic Startup, try Minecraft, then if it works switch to Selective Startup and figure out the offending program.
#1699 [22:42] <Thrae> dariushall21: Yep
#1700 [22:42] <Chris> Companion_Cuybe, no brackets in the command
#1701 [22:43] <dariushall21> I don't know what any of that means, I'm not computer inclined at all.
#1702 [22:44] <Thrae> dariushall21: 1) Start MSCONFIG 2) Select Diagnostic Startup 3) Apply then OK 4) Reboot 5) Try Minecraft 6) If it works, follow the link for more instructions
#1703 [22:45] <dariushall21> If I do a system restore, back to a point like a day or 2 ago that wouldn't make a difference because it doesn't mess with files right?
#1704 [22:46] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Just figured out how I can access my single player world and make it my personal server sweet!!!
#1705 [22:46] <JohnEBH> Rebelord- Congratz enjoy! ^.^
#1706 [22:46] <dariushall21> It gave me a error code. "Fatal error occured(4):connection reset Retrieving lwjgjl.jar 44%
#1707 [22:46] <Thrae> dariushall21: System Restore restores files outside of Documents and Settings.
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#1709 [22:46] <Thrae> dariushall21: You already rebooted in Diagnostic Startup?
#1710 [22:47] <dariushall21> No, I was going onto my Windows computer to look for MSCONFIG, and I seen on the minecraft launcher that error code.
#1711 [22:47] <Rebelord> JohnEBH: Thanks for your help, time to get mining, and making sure I have it public enough for my friend to join lol
#1712 [22:47] <Thrae> dariushall21: Yes, and that error is 99% caused by programs blocking Java operation.
#1713 [22:48] <Thrae> dariushall21: Windows Key + R to bring up the run dialog box, type in "msconfig"
#1714 [22:48] <dariushall21> so at msconfig i type diagnostic startup?
#1715 [22:49] <dariushall21> I just typed msconfig at the start menu
#1716 [22:49] <Thrae> No, "Diagnostic Startup" is one of the options.
#1717 [22:49] <Thrae> dariushall21, you need to follow my instructions instead of doing random things.
#1718 [22:49] <Thrae> dariushall21: Windows Key + R to bring up the run dialog box, type in "msconfig"
#1719 [22:50] <dariushall21> it gave me the same screen as i was just at
#1720 [22:50] <Thrae> If you type in "msconfig" then hit enter, it will being up the System Configuration Utility window.
#1721 [22:50] <dariushall21> it says "System Configuration" at the top
#1722 [22:50] <Thrae> Yes, and that window has the option "Diagnostic Startup"
#1723 [22:51] <dariushall21> yes it does, the same thing I just asked a second ago.
#1724 [22:51] <dariushall21> thats not the option i select correct?
#1725 [22:51] <Thrae> You asked "do I type diagnostic startup"
#1726 [22:51] <Thrae> You don't "type" diagnostic startup as there is no input box -- you select it using your mouse.
#1727 [22:52] <Thrae> dariushall21: After you select Diagnostic Startup using your mouse, click on Apply then OK.
#1728 [22:52] <dariushall21> I guess I made a typo, I figured you would have caught that. I didn't notice I wrote type.
#1729 [22:53] <Thrae> On this channel, if someone tells me they're typing something even when there's nowhere to type, I believe them.
#1730 [22:54] <dariushall21> I understand, you're just following what I'm saying, I didn't mean any offense on it.
#1731 [22:54] <Thrae> None taken.
#1732 [22:54] <dariushall21> Okay, so it highlighted selective start up.
#1733 [22:54] <Thrae> Right, then click Apply, then click OK, then reboot.
#1734 [22:55] <dariushall21> Okay, it is now restarting.
#1735 [22:55] <dariushall21> So currently you're on a Linux based machine?
#1736 [22:55] <Thrae> Nope
#1737 [22:56] <dariushall21> I thought maybe you where because you said you were using IRSSI. I am having issues with Minecraft on this computer also, it is running Linux Ubuntu 11.10.
#1738 [22:57] <dariushall21> I'll state that issue after we're done with this one.
#1739 [22:57] <Thrae> Solaris, but I know how to debug Linux
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#1741 [22:57] <dariushall21> okay I'm at my homescreen.
#1742 [22:58] <dariushall21> A very stripped down version of it.
#1743 [22:58] <Thrae> Yeah, go ahead and login and try Minecraft.
#1744 [22:59] <dariushall21> "Can't connect to Minecraft.net"
#1745 [22:59] <dariushall21> that's the same issue I get when trying to login on this computer
#1746 [22:59] <dariushall21> Although I may not be connected to the internet
#1747 [22:59] <Thrae> Are you connected to the internet on the Windows XP machine?
#1748 [23:00] <dariushall21> It is a Windows 7 machine. But I am unsure of that because my wireless card isn't showing up in my
#1749 [23:00] <dariushall21> dock
#1750 [23:01] <dariushall21> Yeah it's not showing my wireless card
#1751 [23:01] <Companion_Cuybe> Minecraft randomly freezes for like 20 seconds at a time very often...
#1752 [23:01] <Companion_Cuybe> Anyone else have this issue?
#1753 [23:02] <dariushall21> Lag spike? Try installing optimine or alloting Java more memory.
#1754 [23:02] <Companion_Cuybe> I gave Java 1024
#1755 [23:03] <dariushall21> On my lower end computer I use Gamebooster and optimine and it runs just as it does on my good computers
#1756 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> And I have a GREAT computer
#1757 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> I can run CRysis on max
#1758 [23:03] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Are you using a laptop?
#1759 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> So I shouldn't have problems with minecraft because my shitterlaptop ran it better than this.
#1760 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> Yes Thrae.
#1761 [23:03] <dariushall21> Believe it or not Minecraft uses more memory than that does.
#1762 [23:03] <Thrae> Companion_Cuybe: Does it have an ATI or Nvidia graphics chipset?
#1763 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> I run at 100 fps before the freezes.
#1764 [23:03] <Companion_Cuybe> I have good FPS and stuff.
#1765 [23:03] <dariushall21> And thrae and Idea how to fix that?
#1766 [23:04] <dariushall21> any*
#1767 [23:04] <Thrae> dariushall21: You'll have to start the program for your Wireless Card manually, or use Selective Startup and make sure it loads the program for your wireless card
#1768 [23:05] <dariushall21> I don't know which program it would be, it's a built in one.
#1769 [23:06] <dariushall21> Atheros extreme I beleive, I'll look for that in selective start up
#1770 [23:06] <Thrae> dariushall21: It's not part of Windows, but it could have come with your computer.
#1771 [23:06] <dariushall21> How do I select it to start with selective startup?
#1772 [23:10] <dariushall21> I'll be back in a little while, I have to take care of some things.
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#1774 [23:12] <Thrae> dariushall21: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560 or http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
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#1778 [23:31] <dariushall21> Okay, I'm back.
#1779 [23:31] <dariushall21> I still haven't gotten it to work
#1780 [23:37] <dariushall21> Thrae, if you're still there, I got it working. I disabled all of AVGs programs manually through MSCONFIG. The AVG watchdog was stopping it.
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