#MinecraftHelp > 2011-11-08
#1 [00:01] <mib_is73fd> k. that popped up as a black screen then the minecraft beta 1.8.1 popped up
#2 [00:01] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: So the launcher is running?
#3 [00:02] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Now you just have to login and it'll download the rest of Minecraft.
#4 [00:02] <mib_is73fd> i logged in and the beta started playing
#5 [00:02] <ninjabox> forgive my ignorance, but after installing Bukkit it seems like it has no extra functionality like hey0 did
#6 [00:02] <ninjabox> I assume I need to install some plugins or something for it?
#7 [00:03] <Thrae> ninjabox: It has some extra functionality like new server commands, but yeah for the most part you extend it through plugins.
#8 [00:03] <ninjabox> I'm not even getting those though
#9 [00:03] <ninjabox> same exact server commands as vanilla
#10 [00:04] <Thrae> ninjabox: http://wiki.bukkit.org/CraftBukkit_commands
#11 [00:04] <ninjabox> what would I do without you =P
#12 [00:04] <Thrae> ninjabox: Basically just "version", "plugins", and "reload". Now if you want a bunch of cool admin commands, try "CommandBook"
#13 [00:05] <ninjabox> kk
#14 [00:05] <mib_is73fd> what do i do now
#15 [00:06] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: After you login you're playing Minecraft.
#16 [00:07] <mib_is73fd> it says beta in the top left
#17 [00:07] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Yes, this game is in Beta.
#18 [00:08] <mib_is73fd> so i paid $20 for the beta?
#19 [00:09] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: You paid $20 to be able to play the game before its released, instead of paying more than $20 after it's released.
#20 [00:09] <mib_is73fd> ahhhh. thank you very much. im sorry I was such a pain. when will the full version be out?
#21 [00:10] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: No official date, rumor has it sometime this year or early next year.
#22 [00:10] <mib_is73fd> ok
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#25 [00:19] <Pix|Busy> lol silent samurai and bigpong fit.
#26 [00:20] <Pix|Busy> *pond
#27 [00:20] <Robek> ok cool, so far im not crashing any more, but i keep getting this out of memory message in game.
#28 [00:21] <Thrae> Robek: How much total RAM do you have on the system?
#29 [00:21] <Robek> 4g
#30 [00:22] <Silent_Samurai> Pix|Off, Wut.
#31 [00:22] <Thrae> Robek: Use this batch file to launch Minecraft.exe, placing it in the same location as Minecraft.exe -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft3G.bat
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#33 [00:27] <Robek> hm
#34 [00:27] <Robek> did that
#35 [00:27] <Robek> and it goes nuts
#36 [00:27] <Robek> even faster
#37 [00:28] <Thrae> Robek: That allocates 2GB of RAM to start out with, up to a total of 3G.
#38 [00:28] <Robek> hm
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#40 [00:33] <Robek> for some reason it crashes so much faster with that
#41 [00:34] <Wug> Robek: do you have 32 bit or 64 bit java
#42 [00:34] <Robek> 32
#43 [00:35] <Wug> try a prerelease
#44 [00:36] <Wug> 1.8.1 crashes consistently with out of memory errors on 32 bit java
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#46 [00:40] <Robek> where would i find it?
#47 [00:43] <Wug> :1.9
#48 [00:43] <WugBot> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#49 [00:43] <WugBot> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
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#53 [01:22] <stomper> hey my minecraft keeps freezing
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#55 [01:22] <stomper> can someone help
#56 [01:22] <Decon> Anyone have any idea why the game is bugging out? It keeps crashing a freezing
#57 [01:23] <stomper> i have this vacuum that can suck the teeth out of your head
#58 [01:23] <Decon> *and
#59 [01:23] <stomper> ?
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#69 [02:18] <Charizard83> I have an account issue, can someone help me ?
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#74 [02:35] <TaNaHaRa> hey guys can anyone help me my minecraft is getting stuck downloading packages and freezes then says connection reset
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#76 [02:38] <rev-lemon> TaNaHaRa goto minecraft.net login / click in broswer and tell us what happens
#77 [02:38] <amphiboly> install the ezload mod
#78 [02:38] <atoi> Hey, I understand that 1.9-pre5 isn't supported, but hopefully there's a general solution here: I'm trying to convert a 1.8.1 map without disturbing blocks I've altered. I've seen a couple mods, but they seemed to imply that they also converted the maps to "creati
#79 [02:38] <atoi> ve mode"
#80 [02:39] <Ketsueki> atoi: Your best bet is to make a backup copy, then use an editor like MCEdit to completely delete/purge any chunks you want regenerated with 1.9.x data.
#81 [02:39] <amphiboly> first dowblof 7zip
#82 [02:40] <Ketsueki> atoi: also, strtol
#83 [02:41] <atoi> ;)
#84 [02:41] <TaNaHaRa> the game never loads in the browser
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#86 [02:43] <atoi> thanks Ketsueki. not as elegant as I'd like, but it'll do
#87 [02:43] <Ketsueki> atoi: you /can/ cheat a little IF you only have one continuous cuboid of stuff you want to retain.
#88 [02:43] <atoi> (same goes regarding strtol :P)
#89 [02:44] <Ketsueki> That applies per region file.
#90 [02:44] <Wug> lol atoi
#91 [02:44] <Ketsueki> You can edit the world with just that region file in the directory and then re-stitch your work back together; the advantage there is you can purge all blocks /outside/ the selection
#92 [02:44] <atoi> hmm, what do you mean?
#93 [02:44] <atoi> ahh, I see
#94 [02:44] <Ketsueki> Oh gods, now I want to watch Code Geass
#95 [02:45] <Wug> atoi: what are you trying to do
#96 [02:45] <Wug> Ketsueki: don't, its horrible
#97 [02:45] <atoi> Wug: update my map without losing my fort
#98 [02:45] <Ketsueki> Wug: I think he wants new improved strongholds and values
#99 [02:45] <atoi> right
#100 [02:45] <TaNaHaRa> if it doesnt load in the website whats most likely the problem ?
#101 [02:45] <Wug> atoi: update it to what
#102 [02:45] <Wug> oh, derp.
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#104 [02:45] <Wug> mmm thats not easy
#105 [02:45] <Wug> you could have a mod that does it without much difficulty
#106 [02:46] <Wug> it would be computationally expensive though
#107 [02:46] <atoi> right, I saw a couple but wasn't sure about a couple details
#108 [02:46] <Ketsueki> More or less it's already covered. Anything else is a logical variant of that process. Oh, are there mods which modify only 'it could exist in the seed' blocks?
#109 [02:46] <Wug> since you'd have to compare each block in chunks
#110 [02:46] <atoi> meh, computational cost is a non-issue
#111 [02:46] <Wug> determine if they were the same or "close enough" (like air to tree)
#112 [02:46] <atoi> I have resources
#113 [02:46] <Wug> ask in #risucraft
#114 [02:47] <Wug> they're more likely to have an answer for this than here
#115 [02:47] <Ketsueki> Wug: interesting, but already subverted by my above process and building practices.
#116 [02:47] <atoi> meh, I think purging blocks outside my region would work
#117 [02:48] <Ketsueki> atoi: mcedit isn't very bad when doing it that way
#118 [02:48] <Wug> regions are big, if there was a stronghold in it, you'd be out of luck
#119 [02:48] <Wug> mcedit would be ok, but it would probably take a long time
#120 [02:48] <Ketsueki> Wug: depends on where buildigns are
#121 [02:48] <TaNaHaRa> rev-lemon: it does nothing
#122 [02:48] <Ketsueki> I've just /done/ this on my world, but it didn't have much I wanted to keep
#123 [02:48] <Ketsueki> (I wanted RP2 ores and volcanoes)
#124 [02:49] <Wug> you know what
#125 [02:49] <Wug> we need a replace mod
#126 [02:49] <Wug> which takes 2 world generators and a map
#127 [02:49] <Ketsueki> Wug: scan current map versus seed; looks at fuzz of non-natural items. If the fuzz is too high then it doesn't replace, otherwise it purges the chunk and does?
#128 [02:49] <Wug> if the contents of the map are the same as the output of the first world generator, it replaces it with the second one
#129 [02:49] <atoi> the area I'm really interested in keeping is only about 40x40x20, but my friend also has a base with a bunch of resources he's uptight about losing
#130 [02:50] <Wug> done on a block by block basis
#131 [02:50] <Ketsueki> atoi: you CAN also export the sections to schematic files and restore them... it's the placement of the restoration that's tricky
#132 [02:50] <atoi> right
#133 [02:50] <Ketsueki> atoi: always keep backups
#134 [02:50] <atoi> oh, I do
#135 [02:51] <Wug> only issue would be that at current, chunk generation has a lot of side effects
#136 [02:51] <Ketsueki> Yeah, but I wanted to make sure to foreload that in your mind.
#137 [02:51] <atoi> I use crontab like a good boy
#138 [02:51] <Ketsueki> mmm but minecraft isn't proper about calling sync() in an atomic manor
#139 [02:51] <Wug> I've tried before, getting the world to hold 2 chunks that "live" at the same place is difficult and dangerous
#140 [02:51] <Wug> I blew away my test map multiple times
#141 [02:52] <atoi> I'm also hosting the file on multicraft, which does auto-backups
#142 [02:52] <atoi> (the backup on my system is just paranoia)
#143 [02:52] <atoi> the latter only gets taken once a day, though
#144 [02:52] <atoi> but yeah, it seems that the seed value method should totally work
#145 [02:53] <atoi> I should learn more about how these maps are stored
#146 [02:53] <Wug> only problem is that sometimes the seed gets lost
#147 [02:53] <atoi> what do you mean?
#148 [02:53] <Wug> its the number one map corruption issue
#149 [02:53] <Wug> it only affects idiots who dont make backups though
#150 [02:53] <Wug> even one very old backup is enough to recover the seed
#151 [02:53] <Ketsueki> I did like that about bukket logs; they would print the bloody seed
#152 [02:54] <atoi> I mean, I use the same seed for every map
#153 [02:54] <atoi> if that's what you mean
#154 [02:54] <Wug> my modded server saves the seed in server.properties if its not specifiec
#155 [02:54] <Wug> the properties file is almost never lost
#156 [02:54] <atoi> right
#157 [02:55] <Wug> level.dat breaks practically every time anything crashes though
#158 [02:55] <atoi> heh, I learned the value of redundant storage about three days into my first college internship :)
#159 [02:55] <Wug> lol
#160 [02:55] <atoi> only takes one nightmarish experience to scar someone for life with that sort of thing
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#162 [02:56] <atoi> anything important gets backed up locally, anything really important also goes onto a (very secure encrypted cloud) as well, anything critical and small gets written down and stuck in a fireproof box :)
#163 [02:58] <atoi> evidently minecraft region files are in that "really important category. those are some solid priorities
#164 [02:59] <atoi> errm...what are the dimensions of a region again?
#165 [03:01] <Wug> 32x32 chunks
#166 [03:02] <Wug> a chunk is 16x128x16
#167 [03:02] <Wug> each full region file is about 80MB uncompressed
#168 [03:02] <Wug> but they compress usually down to about 4MB
#169 [03:03] <atoi> ahh, so I'd only probably need to retain one or two
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#171 [03:05] <atoi> mmkay, gotta run. thanks again guys
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#174 [03:14] <rymate1234> ohi
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#182 [04:06] <Tero> Hi people at Mojang/Minecraft. You answer questions here?
#183 [04:07] <chinggis> yeah that is what i am here for too, the answering of questions
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#185 [04:08] <Tero> We have a gaming cafe here in Helsinki, and we were wondering that is it ok to run minecraft on our computers so that we would have generic accounts in use for those who haven´t got minecraft account yet?
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#187 [04:10] <Wug> Tero: well, none of us are minecraft staff
#188 [04:11] <Tero> aa, so, it is wrong place
#189 [04:11] <Tero> sorry
#190 [04:11] <Wug> but you could get some accounts and set up the computers to login to them automatically
#191 [04:11] <Tero> my bad
#192 [04:11] <chinggis> i am having trouble playing offline mode on my mac; it loads up to 'simulating world' then goes black. suggestions?
#193 [04:12] <Tero> is it ok to get accounts and get them running, so account is not personal use only?
#194 [04:12] <Wug> that would be fine
#195 [04:12] <Tero> and is there some place where i could get in touch with mojang staff
#196 [04:12] <chinggis> oh lol just checked the channel msg nvm
#197 [04:13] <Wug> he'll probably answer you though
#198 [04:13] <Wug> one thing you could do is you could register several accounts, all with the same password
#199 [04:14] <Wug> if someone wanted to use a different account, they could just change the username field and login
#200 [04:15] <Wug> you should make sure to change the passwords periodically though, in case somebody gets ahold of it (which wouldnt be too hard if you knew exactly what you were doing and had access to the machine)
#201 [04:15] <Wug> if someone did that and changed the password, you could just reset it via email
#202 [04:18] <Tero> ok, thank you for this info, i will try to contact daniel and see what happens next
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#205 [04:29] <chinggis> wow, new problem.. got a fatal error 'Retrieving: lwjgl_util.jar 32%'
#206 [04:29] <TheNoodle> chinggis, http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#207 [04:30] <chinggis> oh my word! thank you
#208 [04:30] <TheNoodle> :3
#209 [04:37] <chinggis> still same problem..
#210 [04:38] <chinggis> i guess i need to wait for lwjgl update to release a stable 1.9 version?
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#215 [04:51] <chinggis> anyone? still getting a fatal error 'retrieving: lwjgl_util.jar 32%' even after updating lwjgl_util.jar
#216 [04:52] <Wug> you'll have to redownload the jar probably
#217 [04:52] <Wug> minecraft is stupid about stuff like that sometimes
#218 [04:53] <Wug> also, you should see if there are any updates available for java
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#220 [04:53] <chinggis> redownload the jar? the same thing again?
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#231 [06:53] <bob> do u guys have an mailing adress so i can send u guys a check for minecraft
#232 [06:54] <b0xxy> lol ^
#233 [06:54] <Wug> no, use one of the online payment methods
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#244 [07:27] <dawings1> hello
#245 [07:27] <dawings1> i need some help from someone please
#246 [07:28] <dawings1> its about multiplayer
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#248 [07:29] <dawings1> when i try to connect to guitar919191's server, it says "connection timed out"
#249 [07:29] <a_c_a_t> Hi.
#250 [07:29] <dawings1> hi
#251 [07:29] <dawings1> noone is espnding to me
#252 [07:29] <dawings1> *respnding
#253 [07:31] <dawings1> its ip is 70.185.200.51
#254 [07:32] <dawings1> can someone help me?
#255 [07:32] <a_c_a_t> For some reason, when I try to join a server, I get this error message "A problem with the webpage is prevening you from returning to the webpage"
#256 [07:32] <a_c_a_t> i don't know anything about minecraft yet, sorry
#257 [07:33] <dawings1> mine says can't reach server on guitar919191's server but not on any others
#258 [07:33] <a_c_a_t> maybe his server has a problem
#259 [07:34] <dawings1> @almostroot
#260 [07:34] <dawings1> no, my freinds are on it
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#262 [07:34] <a_c_a_t> hm, odd
#263 [07:34] <dawings1> ik
#264 [07:35] <dawings1> sometimes it works, but most of the time it dosnt
#265 [07:36] <dawings1> um, why is noone answering our questions?
#266 [07:36] <dawings1> :(
#267 [07:36] <a_c_a_t> idk
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#269 [07:36] <dawings1> @AuBot
#270 [07:38] <a_c_a_t> alot of people have your problem
#271 [07:38] <Chris> dawings1, calling out peoples name is considered rude and dangerous
#272 [07:39] <Boreeas> dangerous as in, you gonna get kicked :P
#273 [07:39] <Chris> or banned, but yes
#274 [07:41] <Chris> not to mention AuBot is a bot 90% of the time xD
#275 [07:41] <a_c_a_t> can anyone of you guys give me help?
#276 [07:43] <Chris> a_c_a_t, you on beta or classic
#277 [07:43] <a_c_a_t> classic
#278 [07:43] <a_c_a_t> i try to join a server
#279 [07:43] <a_c_a_t> tchalo to be exact
#280 [07:44] <a_c_a_t> then i click the server name, and the game pops up for 1 second
#281 [07:44] <Chris> sorry, I've never played classic, you'll have to wait for someone who knows about it to come on
#282 [07:44] <a_c_a_t> ok thanks anyway
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#287 [08:02] <mib_31r8xt> can you play minecraft on macs?
#288 [08:03] <Wug> yes
#289 [08:03] <Wug> as long as you're running a version of osx newer than 10.5.8
#290 [08:03] <Wug> and support for that version will be fixed
#291 [08:03] <mib_31r8xt> im runnning 10.6.8 so it should be fine then :)
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#296 [08:29] <westmi> hello
#297 [08:29] <westmi> woner why i don't have a voice in #minecraft
#298 [08:30] <westmi> *wonder
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#300 [08:31] <clarjon1> Why do you need one
#301 [08:32] <westmi> #minecraft :cannot send to channel
#302 [08:32] <westmi> that's what I get when I say something
#303 [08:34] <clarjon1> westmi: you need to reg your nick with nickserv
#304 [08:34] <westmi> I did...
#305 [08:34] <clarjon1> /msg nickserv register your_preferred_password email@address.here
#306 [08:34] <westmi> I am registered...
#307 [08:34] <clarjon1> then, go to your email, and find the confirmation email
#308 [08:34] <clarjon1> -NickServ- westmi is not registered.
#309 [08:34] <westmi> I registered years ago....
#310 [08:35] <clarjon1> well
#311 [08:35] <clarjon1> nickserv drops your nicks after oh
#312 [08:35] <clarjon1> i think it's a month of inactivity on here?
#313 [08:35] <westmi> I just did an identify, and it worked...
#314 [08:35] <clarjon1> Are you sure it was on Espernet?
#315 [08:35] <westmi> freenode...
#316 [08:35] <clarjon1> this is Espernet, not freenode :)
#317 [08:35] <westmi> is it different for esper?
#318 [08:36] <clarjon1> yup
#319 [08:36] <clarjon1> just like it's different user logins for gmail and hotmail users :)
#320 [08:36] <clarjon1> Similar services, different databases
#321 [08:36] <westmi> crap
#322 [08:36] <westmi> whatta headache :(
#323 [08:37] <clarjon1> Not really
#324 [08:37] <clarjon1> it's what you get on the net anyways
#325 [08:37] <clarjon1> Each site has it's own login page these days :)
#326 [08:37] <clarjon1> Just register, confirm, then just hit ctrl+s to bring up xchat's network list, and toss the nickserv password into there :)
#327 [08:44] <westmi> crap I'll go do that in a few minutes when i can
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#330 [08:48] <andyuk2011> can anyone help me?
#331 [08:49] <tyteen4a03> andyuk2011: Yes?
#332 [08:50] <andyuk2011> got this as i tried loading minecraft faild to load main-class manifest attribute from c:\ussers\user\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar
#333 [08:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> andyuk2011 win/reinst/bat
#334 [08:51] <VoxelHead> andyuk2011: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#335 [08:51] <VoxelHead> andyuk2011: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#337 [08:53] <westmi> clarjon1, thanks, got it all straightened out
#338 [08:54] <clarjon1> westmi: *tips proverbial hat* no problem
#339 [08:54] <clarjon1> 's why i idle here :)
#340 [08:59] <andyuk2011> eh its disappered?
#341 [08:59] <andyuk2011> how i get it back?
#342 [09:05] <clarjon1> what's disappeared
#343 [09:05] <clarjon1> the error?
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#345 [09:10] <andyuk2011> my minecraft only got save files left and read me txt.
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#347 [09:14] <westmi> so download minecraft.jar again
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#354 [09:52] <mib_fln29w> hi
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#364 [10:20] <Executez> Anybody here?
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#378 [10:46] <Guest50420> Hey guys.... i can't connect to ANY multiplayer server (firewall off/ ports open) if i try to connect it says :Failed to connect to the server unknown host my friends got the same problem
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#380 [10:49] <Wug> what ip are you trying to connect to
#381 [10:50] <Guest50420> i tried different ip's .... this one for example 46.163.106.8:2244
#382 [10:53] <Wug> ;check 46.163.106.8:2244
#383 [10:53] <WugBot> 46.163.106.8:2244 does not host a minecraft server.
#384 [10:53] <Wug> well, theres no server there
#385 [10:53] <Wug> link must be out of date
#386 [10:53] <Wug> ;check 46.163.106.8
#387 [10:53] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 46.163.106.8:25565 (Timed out)
#388 [10:53] <Guest50420> there are 15players on the server :D
#389 [10:53] <Wug> doesnt respond to pings then
#390 [10:53] <Wug> silly server
#391 [10:54] <Guest50420> could u send me a ip?
#392 [10:54] <Wug> is it an offline server or something
#393 [10:54] <Wug> ask in #smp
#394 [10:54] <Morrolan> ?? smp/servers
#395 [10:54] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#396 [10:54] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#397 [10:54] <Morrolan> Either of these lists would be an option too. :)
#398 [10:54] <Calinou> http://list.mcmyadmin.com - too
#399 [10:54] <Calinou> minestatus: "The author of this comment has been banned."
#400 [10:55] <Calinou> #1 catchphrase of minestatus, IMO. :P
#401 [10:58] <Wug> "user was banned for this post"
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#406 [11:16] <mib_42phiz> hello?
#407 [11:16] <mib_42phiz> i need help
#408 [11:17] <mib_42phiz> "/nick dave0501"
#409 [11:17] <mib_42phiz> pleasse
#410 [11:18] <mib_42phiz> i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#413 [11:22] <mermi> what do i run mindcraft with
#414 [11:23] <mermi> what do i run mindcraft with
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#416 [11:24] <Guest37303> what do i run mindcraft with
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#418 [11:25] <Guest37303> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
#419 [11:25] <gggreen> lol
#420 [11:25] <gggreen> what, was that guy a mibbit user/spammer?
#421 [11:26] <Guest37303> what do i run mindcraft with
#422 [11:26] <gggreen> with your computer
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#424 [11:27] <Guest37303> but what do i run it with
#425 [11:27] <gggreen> and not your toaster
#426 [11:28] <gggreen> ok go to the internet...
#427 [11:28] <gggreen> search for "trojan download"
#428 [11:28] <gggreen> run it with that
#429 [11:28] * Wug kicked gggreen from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ggreen :this is why we cant have nice things)
#430 [11:28] <Wug> Guest37303: java
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#432 [11:28] <gggreen> lol
#433 [11:28] <gggreen> that was a joke
#434 [11:28] <Wug> most recent version is here:
#435 [11:29] <Wug> :j
#436 [11:29] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
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#438 [11:29] <Wug> gggreen: this is not the channel for jokes
#439 [11:29] <gggreen> mk
#440 [11:29] <Guest37303> thanks
#441 [11:29] <Guest37303> thanks
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#443 [11:34] <oldtopman> ??> mib_42phiz ask
#444 [11:34] <VoxelHead> mib_42phiz: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#445 [11:34] <VoxelHead> mib_42phiz: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#446 [11:35] <mib_42phiz> hi can some one help me
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#448 [11:36] <mib_42phiz> i need to update my "video card drivers"
#449 [11:36] <mib_42phiz> ???
#450 [11:36] <mib_42phiz> voxel head?
#451 [11:36] <mib_42phiz> wug?
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#453 [11:37] <Tanjoodo> People y u so idle?
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#455 [11:43] <Nameless> Gentlemen (and ladies) - I am unable to connect to minecraft.net with the launcher. Is this problem on my end, or is there an issue at the moment?
#456 [11:43] <Ryladine> !isdown
#457 [11:43] <GreyBot> Ryladine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
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#459 [11:43] <Ryladine> Seems like a problem on your end, is it a recent issue?
#460 [11:43] <Nameless> Yes, I can browse to the site with iceweasel, but the launcher cannot connect to get the rest of the packages downloaded
#461 [11:43] <Ryladine> Hm?
#462 [11:43] <Nameless> Very recent - I am just now trying to install
#463 [11:43] <oldtopman> Nameless: Firewall?
#464 [11:44] <Ryladine> Iceweasel? What OS are you on?
#465 [11:44] <Nameless> oldtopman: not that I know of, and I don't know how to check either :P
#466 [11:44] <Nameless> Ryladine: debian Sid
#467 [11:44] <oldtopman> Nameless: Debian 6.x?
#468 [11:44] <oldtopman> ooh
#469 [11:44] <oldtopman> Nameless: Are you using openjdk?
#470 [11:44] <Ryladine> Ah, I'll leave you for topman, I'm dangerous when it comes to linux XD
#471 [11:45] <Nameless> nun-java6-jre
#472 [11:45] * oldtopman uses debian
#472 [11:45] <Nameless> sun*
#473 [11:45] <oldtopman> Nameless: And that is the one that runs?
#474 [11:45] <Nameless> lol I hve no idea, friend.
#475 [11:45] <oldtopman> whereis java
#476 [11:45] <oldtopman> Paste that here
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#478 [11:45] <Nameless> I know Windows environment quite well, but I have trouble finding things in 'nix
#479 [11:46] <oldtopman> oh
#480 [11:46] <Nameless> k
#481 [11:46] <oldtopman> Accessories > terminal > type in "whereis java"
#482 [11:46] <Nameless> java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java
#483 [11:47] <oldtopman> Type in "java -version"
#484 [11:47] <oldtopman> What does that say?
#485 [11:47] <Nameless> already did
#486 [11:47] <Nameless> fff pastefail
#487 [11:47] <Nameless> cacheram@L1CACHE:~$ java --version
#488 [11:47] <Nameless> java version "1.5.0"
#489 [11:47] <Nameless> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.4.5
#490 [11:48] <Nameless> :/
#491 [11:48] <oldtopman> hrm
#492 [11:48] <Nameless> apparently, the enter key is not punctuation
#493 [11:48] <oldtopman> Try using the downloaded version
#494 [11:48] <Nameless> pardon?
#495 [11:49] <oldtopman> Yeah, It's a two line paste, but...feh
#496 [11:49] <oldtopman> minecraft.net/download.jsp
#497 [11:49] <oldtopman> Download the "minecraft.jar" file
#498 [11:49] <Nameless> already did
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#500 [11:49] <Nameless> placed it in ~/.minecraft/bin
#501 [11:49] <oldtopman> ??> Nameless linux/reinstall/sh
#502 [11:49] <oldtopman> ??> Nameless linux/reinstall/bat
#503 [11:49] <Nameless> ^ I dont understand that
#504 [11:49] <oldtopman> feh
#505 [11:50] <oldtopman> do you have any save files?
#506 [11:50] <Nameless> negative, this is a new install of debian, and I am trying to get minecraft installed too
#507 [11:50] <oldtopman> Type in "rm -rf ~/.minecraft"
#508 [11:50] <Nameless> i can get the launcher to appear, but it wont connect to minecraaft.net
#509 [11:50] <oldtopman> right.
#510 [11:51] <Nameless> confirm: you want me to delete my .minecraft folder and all it's contents?
#511 [11:51] <oldtopman> yessir
#512 [11:51] <Nameless> roger
#513 [11:52] <Nameless> done.
#514 [11:52] <oldtopman> Now. Do you still have a minecraft.jar file?
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#516 [11:52] <Nameless> nosir, you had me delete it :V
#517 [11:52] <oldtopman> heh
#518 [11:52] <oldtopman> Redownload it and tell me if it works.
#519 [11:53] <oldtopman> Don't put into the ~/.minecraft/bin folder
#520 [11:53] <Nameless> shall I place it in ~/.minecraft/bin ?
#521 [11:53] <Nameless> oh?
#522 [11:53] <oldtopman> Yeah
#523 [11:53] <Nameless> then where wiould you recommend?
#524 [11:53] <oldtopman> That "minecraft.jar" is the main executable.
#525 [11:53] <oldtopman> You replace/edit that for mods.
#526 [11:53] <Nameless> d'oh
#527 [11:53] <oldtopman> The other file is naught but a launcher.
#528 [11:53] <oldtopman> orher file => one that you download.
#529 [11:53] <Nameless> double-d'oh
#530 [11:53] <oldtopman> np
#531 [11:54] <Nameless> yes, I think I see where I went wrong now
#532 [11:54] <Nameless> let me try, a few moments please
#533 [11:54] <oldtopman> If you mod minecraft, or try the 1.9 prereleases, you'll replace the one in ~/.minecraft/bin
#534 [11:54] <Nameless> yeah
#535 [11:54] <Nameless> but like I said, I am windows guru, linux newby
#536 [11:54] <oldtopman> np
#537 [11:55] <oldtopman> It's not that hard to learn, they're fairly similar.
#538 [11:55] <oldtopman> Anyhoo, enjoy minecraft!
#539 [11:55] <oldtopman> (come back if it doesn't work)
#540 [11:57] <Nameless> sorry, distracted by IRL, continuing process ..
#541 [11:59] <oldtopman> np
#542 [11:59] <oldtopman> highligh me if it fails
#543 [11:59] <Nameless> one more question
#544 [12:00] <Nameless> I am making a launcher for this, in KDE - where should working directory be? ~/.minecraft?
#545 [12:00] <Nameless> oldtopman: ^
#546 [12:01] <oldtopman> Nameless: Working directory doesn't matter.
#547 [12:01] <Nameless> k
#548 [12:02] <oldtopman> afk
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#550 [12:07] <Nameless> oldtopman: still no joy. Now using a different command to launch ->
#551 [12:07] <Nameless> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -cp /home/cacheram/Downloads/MCLauncher/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#552 [12:07] <Nameless> The launcher loads, but I cannot connect to minecraft.net to get the rest of the game installed
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#555 [12:16] <cam> will a toshiba satilite work with minecraft when i buy the game??
#556 [12:17] <amphiboly> I have no idea what happened . I followed thrae's advice by doing 1) Download and install Driver Sweeper from http://www.phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html . 2) Uninstall your AMD / ATI Graphics Drivers. 3) Reboot the computer into Safe Mode. 4) Remove all AMD / ATI Graphics Drivers <= this screwed up my computer and minecraft no longer can run
#557 [12:17] <amphiboly> using Driver Sweeper. 5) Reboot again, back into normal mode. 6) Install the latest Catalyst
#558 [12:17] <amphiboly> Software Suite.
#559 [12:18] <Thrae> amphiboly: What happens when you reinstall the Catalyst Software Suite?
#560 [12:18] <amphiboly> nothing
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#562 [12:20] <Thrae> amphiboly: You'll have to contact your computer manufacturer and have them walk you through installing the generic drivers from ATI's website.
#563 [12:20] <amphiboly> that advice destroyed my opengl drivers
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#565 [12:20] <Thrae> ??> amphiboly win/dxdiag
#566 [12:20] <VoxelHead> amphiboly: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#567 [12:20] <VoxelHead> amphiboly: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#568 [12:20] <pheleas_frog> i am having trouble logging on to multiplayer
#569 [12:21] <Thrae> amphiboly: Let's take a look first at what drivers are installed, if any
#570 [12:21] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: Try s.nerd.ru
#571 [12:23] <amphiboly> thrae http://pastebin.com/0dW6d45a
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#573 [12:23] <pheleas_frog> if it gos through then i am falling down a long hole and it doesn't end.
#574 [12:23] <Thrae> amphiboly: Yeah you currently have no video drivers installed.
#575 [12:23] <amphiboly> I want usable video drivers again
#576 [12:24] <pheleas_frog> hello?
#577 [12:24] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: Did you try s.nerd.ru ?
#578 [12:24] <pheleas_frog> what is that?
#579 [12:25] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: A Minecraft server, try connecting to it
#580 [12:25] <pheleas_frog> ok one second
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#582 [12:25] <amphiboly> what's the point of catalyst mobility suite if it refuses to install drivers?
#583 [12:26] <Thrae> Nameless: Hi
#584 [12:26] <pheleas_frog> it cant resolve hostname
#585 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> It's s.nerd.nu
#586 [12:26] <Thrae> Oh, whoops
#587 [12:26] * Nameless waves to Thrae
#587 [12:26] <Thrae> Nameless: What can I do for you
#588 [12:27] <pheleas_frog> ok i am connected
#589 [12:27] <pheleas_frog> now what
#590 [12:27] <Thrae> amphiboly: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R271318.exe
#591 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Is it working? Do you fall endlessly
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#593 [12:27] <Nameless> Thrae: I am trying to install minecraft in debian. The launcher activates, but it cannot connect to minecraft.net to download the game.
#594 [12:27] <Helpee> ??< gpu/intel
#595 [12:27] <pheleas_frog> no
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#597 [12:28] <Helpee> Glad I know my own problem's solution... lol
#598 [12:28] <Thrae> Nameless: OK, when you do java -version does it say "Sun Java"?
#599 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Then your computer works fine. It's your previous server that was making you fall endlessly
#600 [12:28] <pheleas_frog> ok thanks!
#601 [12:28] <Nameless> Thrae: no, but I did install sun-java6-jre.
#602 [12:28] <Thrae> Nameless: Right, and is that what java -version shows?
#603 [12:28] <Nameless> Do I need tno
#604 [12:28] <Nameless> *no
#605 [12:28] <Nameless> one moment
#606 [12:29] <Nameless> java version "1.5.0" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.4.5
#607 [12:29] <Helpee> Ow. ^^ problem?
#608 [12:29] <Nameless> what do I search for to remove that version?
#609 [12:30] <Thrae> Nameless: You just need to update your PATH / JAVAHOME
#610 [12:30] <Helpee> Erm... Windows, right?
#611 [12:30] <Helpee> Or that ^^
#612 [12:30] <Helpee> *walks away*
#613 [12:30] <Nameless> I will not windows.
#614 [12:30] <Nameless> Thrae: researching ...
#615 [12:30] <Thrae> Nameless: find /usr -iname java | grep bin
#616 [12:31] <pheleas_frog> how do i fix the server i was previously on?
#617 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Do you run that server pheleas_frog?
#618 [12:31] <pheleas_frog> what?
#619 [12:31] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: Have them try deleting your player file on the server if they'll do it for you.
#620 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> The previous server you were on, do you run it?
#621 [12:32] <pheleas_frog> yes
#622 [12:32] <Nameless> Thrae: 5 results -- 2 are the 'bad' version, 2 are for Sun java 6, one is a folder containing them all
#623 [12:32] <Helpee> I'm leaving to log on as administrator, buhbye.
#624 [12:32] <Thrae> Nameless: Yeah, so you want to try calling java 6 bin directory
#625 [12:34] <amphiboly> thrae what is wrong with catalyst mobility suite?
#626 [12:34] <Thrae> amphiboly: No idea, but the Dell drivers I gave you are from 2010 so they're newer than the ones you had
#627 [12:35] <Nameless> Thrae: I assume there is a command for that, but I have no idea what it may be
#628 [12:35] <pheleas_frog> that server that i was on earlier, i would like to fix it because all my friend are on it
#629 [12:36] <pheleas_frog> any ideas?
#630 [12:36] <Thrae> Nameless: If Java 6 is in /usr/share/java/jre6/bin/java , then you'd do /usr/share/java/jre6/bin/java -jar Minecraft.jar
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#633 [12:38] <Nameless> Thrae: it's in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/jre/bin/java -- is that a problem? (/bin vs. /share)
#634 [12:38] <Nameless> er, /lib vs*.
#635 [12:39] <pheleas_frog> hello?
#636 [12:39] <Thrae> Nameless: Nope, weird place to put it though
#637 [12:39] <Nameless> blame debian :V
#638 [12:40] <pheleas_frog> can someone answer my question?
#639 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Thrae did answer it. Have the server owner delete your player.dat profile
#640 [12:41] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: You need to READ what people are telling you.
#641 [12:41] <Thrae> <+Thrae> pheleas_frog: Have them try deleting your player file on the server if they'll do it for you.
#642 [12:41] <pheleas_frog> i dont know how to do that
#643 [12:42] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: You're not the one doing it -- you have to ask THEM to do it.
#644 [12:42] <pheleas_frog> do i have to ask the admin or a moderator
#645 [12:42] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: Admin.
#646 [12:43] <pheleas_frog> how do i ask the admin
#647 [12:43] <Thrae> pheleas_frog: Go to the website for the server? Login to the server and contact someone there?
#648 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to contact the person running the server?
#649 [12:44] <Nameless> Thrae: that did it, thank you \o/
#650 [12:44] <pheleas_frog> no i dont
#651 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> In order to fix this, you'll need to find a way to contact the server's admin
#652 [12:45] <pheleas_frog> ok
#653 [12:48] <amphiboly> thrae this is worse than before http://pastebin.com/18iDkxyY
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#655 [12:49] <amphiboly> I no longer have usable video drivers
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#657 [12:50] <amphiboly> thrae what have you done to my computer?
#658 [12:51] <amphiboly> I have no idea what is wrong
#659 [12:51] <Thrae> amphiboly: You'll probably have to do a System Restore to a date before you ran Driver Sweeper. Sounds like there was a problem with your Windows installation that Driver Sweeper exacerbated.
#660 [12:51] <Thrae> amphiboly: I thought you did computer troubleshooting?
#661 [12:51] <Nameless> lol
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#665 [12:57] <Drivers> Problem: Insufficient privelages on computer, (not administrator,) and trying to update drivers. Ideas?
#666 [12:58] <Drivers> (Intel chipset... Ughh)
#667 [12:58] <Thrae> Drivers: You need to be Administrator to be able to update drivers.
#668 [12:58] <Thrae> Specifically, any Administrator account.
#669 [12:58] <Drivers> thrae, this I know. But is there another way? Or anything I can do?
#670 [12:59] <iPixeli> i have been highlighted at least twice here. Did someone using a mod of mine need help?
#671 [12:59] <Thrae> Drivers: If you know the login credentials to the Admin account you can update the drivers without logging into the account, that's about it.
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#673 [12:59] <Drivers> Lovely. Sad that I'm on a school computer then.
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#676 [13:01] <metasin> Hello
#677 [13:01] <bearlindo> hi im looking for a software my friend told me about he told me about a software that lokks like google earth but instead of the real world its the minecraft worl someone here ho knows where to find it?
#678 [13:01] <bearlindo> looks
#679 [13:02] <clarjon1> you mean google maps
#680 [13:02] <clarjon1> There are plenty of those for SMP -- i'm familiar with the dynmap plugin :)
#681 [13:02] <metasin> Does anyonow know what this means? [INFO] Fetching addPacket for removed entity
#682 [13:03] <clarjon1> Google says it's a bukkit issue
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#684 [13:03] <clarjon1> with the TrainCarts plugin
#685 [13:04] <clarjon1> all 4 results for "Fetching addPacket for removed entity" point to that plugin, metasin
#686 [13:04] <metasin> i don't have the traincarts plugin
#687 [13:04] <metasin> yeah i saw that
#688 [13:04] <clarjon1> But you do have bukkit
#689 [13:04] <metasin> yes
#690 [13:04] <clarjon1> You should ask Bukkit then
#691 [13:05] <metasin> are they on esper too?
#692 [13:05] <metasin> lol
#693 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#694 [13:05] <Thrae> metasin: /j #bukkit
#695 [13:05] <clarjon1> This room is for Vanilla minecraft :)
#696 [13:05] <pvtkitty> can someone help me? im trying to buy minecraft with a debit card and i tried using paypal aswell but it keeps getting denied
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#698 [13:05] <clarjon1> pvtkitty: Make sure there's enough money in the account, and that your bank supports online transactions with the card.
#699 [13:06] <pvtkitty> it was a prepaid card... for got to say that and yea i charged $30
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#701 [13:07] <clarjon1> Well, it sounds like an issue to take up with the vendor of the card :)
#702 [13:07] <clarjon1> Most have a setup page to add 'contact details' so you can use it properly online
#703 [13:07] <Thrae> pvtkitty: Paypal and Moneybookers generally require you to make an account with some prepaid accounts.
#704 [13:07] <clarjon1> have you gone through that?
#705 [13:07] <Thrae> *prepaid cards
#706 [13:08] <clarjon1> I remember the prepaid mastercard i had, you had to go thru this online questionairre found on a URL on either the card, or the packaging the card came in, before you could use it with paypal etc
#707 [13:08] <Thrae> Or that ^^^^
#708 [13:09] <clarjon1> Also
#709 [13:09] <clarjon1> some pre-paid CC vendors are stingy
#710 [13:09] <clarjon1> and will deny you access depending on the location of the vendor
#711 [13:09] <clarjon1> they'll get told, as an example, that mojang isn't from the US, so they say, "NOPE"
#712 [13:09] <clarjon1> I had that issue with a Visa prepaid once...
#713 [13:10] <pvtkitty> yea im using a visa one too
#714 [13:10] <pvtkitty> what did you do?
#715 [13:11] <clarjon1> I used it for food at the local grocery, and got a different vendor's prepaid card :)
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#717 [13:13] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: I came yesterday about MC not loading... even with the new java it wont work.. ive done a sys restore... still wont work :/
#718 [13:14] <clarjon1> new java? which version?
#719 [13:15] <JonesyBoppa> re installment :P
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#722 [13:16] <The_Prog> Can me everybody help?
#723 [13:18] <The_Prog> Can me everybody help?
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#725 [13:18] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: I came yesterday about MC not loading... even with the new java it wont work.. ive done a sys restore... still wont work :/???
#726 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Could you start from the top?
#727 [13:19] <The_Prog> Can me everybody help
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#729 [13:20] <JonesyBoppa> I have Minecraft 1.8.1 and a Craftbukkit server. the server works.. but MC doesn't, I click on the MC icon, it looks like its gunno come up.. but it doesn't
#730 [13:20] <JonesyBoppa> it doesn't display in Task manager either
#731 [13:21] <Cactusman> I will need help for a dam mod loader c rash
#732 [13:21] <The_Prog> can me everybody help
#733 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you follow these instructions. Will launch minecraft with a batch file, in the cmd prompt window. Any errors will show up there.
#734 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#735 [13:22] <cyl1d3> Good day. I have the following problem: I bought MC as a gift for a friend of mine, he used the code all np. When he tries to log in from his pc at home, it says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net". We have opened the ports in his router and disabled the windows firewall, which does not help. I also sent him my .minecraft folder which did not help either. Any ideas?
#736 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> cyl1d3 - Would help if he came onto here. Solving problems through a proxy is hard enough as it is
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#738 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> cyl1d3 - First things I would check, What operating system is he on? Has he pirated minecraft before at all? If he's running windows, does his windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it. Does he run java 5, 6 or 7?
#739 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Is his computer's time and date correct?
#740 [13:24] <cyl1d3> w7, no pirated mc, he has a !, if i'm right
#741 [13:24] <cyl1d3> java 6
#742 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Then that ! would do it
#743 [13:24] <cyl1d3> ah, nice
#744 [13:24] <cyl1d3> we'll try that
#745 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> He has two options at that point. Either make a new windows user account that doesn't have a !... or use our workaround
#746 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#747 [13:24] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#748 [13:24] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#749 [13:25] <cyl1d3> so make new account or run the exe?
#750 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#751 [13:26] <JonesyBoppa> Works!!!! Thank you so much GreyVulpine !
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#753 [13:27] * GreyVulpine blinks
#753 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> That was just a diagnostic step.. wasn't meant to actually solve anything..
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#755 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> So, nothing wrong with your computer, just that you don't have enough RAM free to run minecraft/java
#756 [13:27] <JonesyBoppa> lol, it did, I wonder what was wrong....
#757 [13:27] <Cactusman> i m on vista 64
#758 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> The only difference between the bat file, and the .exe, is that the bat file executes minecraft with 256 megs of RAM
#759 [13:28] <JonesyBoppa> I must have enough.... I have 14GB free and I set it to 10GB of space
#760 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> the .exe runs it with 512/1 gig
#761 [13:28] <JonesyBoppa> hmm
#762 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> That really is the only difference
#763 [13:28] <cyl1d3> works like a charm, thanks a lot
#764 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to take a look at your RAM usage.
#765 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> cyl1d3 - Glad we could help
#766 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Cactusman - For modloader help, try #risucraft. They're the modloader people. We don't deal with mods here.
#767 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> I do warn you, that they do not tend to like noobish questions, so make sure you google your answer before you take it up with them
#768 [13:31] <mib_1ypdt5> wow! thanks:D didn't even write in the chat and suddenly problem solved:) thanks, your amazing:D
#769 [13:36] <metasin> Does anyone know if copying the minecraft folder while minecraft server is running is not a viable backup?
#770 [13:36] <metasin> It doesn't seem to complain.
#771 [13:36] <clarjon1> metasin: half saved chunks
#772 [13:36] <metasin> hmm
#773 [13:37] <clarjon1> It won't complain
#774 [13:37] <metasin> so a stop then backup is required
#775 [13:37] <clarjon1> i forget the exact command
#776 [13:37] <clarjon1> but there's one to stop the saving of chunks
#777 [13:37] <clarjon1> So, inject that command into the screen session, back up the files, then inject the command to allow saving again :)
#778 [13:38] <Cactusman> Does somebody know a good site WHICH IS NOT MINECRAFTFORUM for mod loader crashes help?
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#780 [13:40] <clarjon1> Cactusman: the minecraft forum post for modloader says that the only other place to get support for it is at http://tiny.cc/PAIN
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#782 [13:41] <Cactusman> clarjon1: Great,I chineese guy, now what?
#783 [13:41] <clarjon1> Cactusman: Go to the minecraftforum, obviously.
#784 [13:41] <clarjon1> That's the only place the developer gives help, and supports help
#785 [13:42] <clarjon1> He has no wiki, no forum on his own, etc
#786 [13:42] <Cactusman> I know
#787 [13:43] <clarjon1> not even an IRC channel
#788 [13:43] <Cactusman> I need to go for supper, Im in france
#789 [13:43] * GreyVulpine waves
#789 [13:43] <clarjon1> ?? mods
#790 [13:43] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#791 [13:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#792 [13:43] <clarjon1> i was too slow lol
#793 [13:44] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: how you doin?
#794 [13:44] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#794 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> As well as can be expected
#795 [13:45] <clarjon1> mmm
#796 [13:45] <clarjon1> I've been monkeying with yogbox, and spoutcraft (Separately )
#797 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Haven't touched either.
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#799 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Anything worth looking into?
#800 [13:46] <clarjon1> Mhm
#801 [13:47] <clarjon1> spoutcraft is -- they're pushing it big with bukkit too
#802 [13:47] <clarjon1> it's essentially's bukkit's way of trying to unify server and client side mods
#803 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Ah, interesting.
#804 [13:47] <clarjon1> The client also comes with a lot of optimizations built-in
#805 [13:47] <clarjon1> betterchat, optifine, etc
#806 [13:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#806 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> That little, I know.
#807 [13:48] <clarjon1> I've also gotten fewer "Out of Memory" crashes with it.
#808 [13:48] <clarjon1> always nice, that.
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#810 [13:49] <guest-0-29653> hey
#811 [13:49] <guest-0-29653> t/nick dawings1
#812 [13:50] <dawings1> t:P
#813 [13:50] <clarjon1> lol
#814 [13:50] <dawings1> i need help
#815 [13:50] <dawings1> tplz
#816 [13:50] <clarjon1> Yeah, you seem to have a pretty strong SMP Minecraft addiction there buddy ;)
#817 [13:50] <dawings1> i cant get on guitar919191 server
#818 [13:50] <dawings1> yep
#819 [13:51] <clarjon1> ok?
#820 [13:51] <dawings1> it says: can't reach server
#821 [13:51] <clarjon1> that means his server is down
#822 [13:51] <dawings1> but, when i get on, i see things aded onto and my stuff is greifed
#823 [13:52] <dawings1> *added
#824 [13:52] <clarjon1> Does the server run 24/7?
#825 [13:52] <dawings1> yes
#826 [13:52] <dawings1> i belive so
#827 [13:52] <clarjon1> well
#828 [13:52] <clarjon1> this sounds like something you need to take up with guitar919191
#829 [13:53] <dawings1> should i give you the ip to see if you can connect?
#830 [13:53] <clarjon1> no can do -- i'm at work
#831 [13:53] <clarjon1> :)
#832 [13:53] <dawings1> ah
#833 [13:53] <clarjon1> what's the ip?
#834 [13:54] <dawings1> 70.185.200.51
#835 [13:54] <clarjon1> ;check 70.185.200.51
#836 [13:54] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 70.185.200.51:25565 (Timed out)
#837 [13:54] <dawings1> ...?
#838 [13:54] <clarjon1> ( that means it's down)
#839 [13:54] <clarjon1> unless it's on a port other than 25565?
#840 [13:54] <dawings1> idj
#841 [13:55] <dawings1> *idk
#842 [13:55] <clarjon1> if you don't know, then it's probably not
#843 [13:55] <clarjon1> just gotta wait for guitar to bring it back up
#844 [13:55] <clarjon1> nothign we can do :)
#845 [13:55] <clarjon1> you're at the mercy of the server admin with this, buddy lol
#846 [13:55] <dawings1> what does 25565 mean anyway?
#847 [13:55] <clarjon1> that's the default port that minecraft connects to
#848 [13:55] <dawings1> i(im kind of a noob)
#849 [13:55] <dawings1> ok
#850 [13:56] <dawings1> thanks anyway :)
#851 [13:56] <clarjon1> if you were supposed to use, say, port 12345
#852 [13:56] <clarjon1> you'd use server.ip.here:12345
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#854 [13:56] <clarjon1> dawings1: Like how some websites will give you a link, and it's like, server.blah:8081/index.html
#855 [13:57] <dawings1> so i just pm guitar?
#856 [13:57] <clarjon1> mhm
#857 [13:57] <dawings1> ok thanks! :)
#858 [13:57] <clarjon1> No problem
#859 [13:57] <clarjon1> ;check dreamcraft.org
#860 [13:57] <WugBot> dreamcraft.org:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Dreamcraft (10/50)
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#872 [14:39] <xarcus> hello i will help you
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#876 [14:52] <psyfon> hsdhdh
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#882 [15:10] <mib_hdou2t> hello
#883 [15:10] <mib_hdou2t> i need help
#884 [15:11] <sproing> the mine craft classic isnt working
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#886 [15:18] <reedlepee> im clicking to play in browser but it takes me to a blank page
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#888 [15:19] <reedlepee> can any one help
#889 [15:19] <reedlepee> is any one there?
#890 [15:19] <reedlepee> haha
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#893 [15:26] <rymate1234> loll
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#895 [15:28] <Sardonicus> feel free to participate
#896 [15:28] <Sardonicus> feel free to participate
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#898 [15:29] <Sardonicus> http://www.lastcombat.com/Scott_vs_Cial.html
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#900 [15:32] <JayJSE2> hi
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#902 [15:33] <JayJSE2> does minecraft depend on any registry entries?
#903 [15:33] <oldtopman> JayJSE2: No.
#904 [15:33] <JayJSE2> that's odd...
#905 [15:33] <JayJSE2> anyway,
#906 [15:34] <mib_d9lml0> I have downloaded the game and it says game loaded, the screen then goes blank ( white screen) and then nothing... any ideas please??
#907 [15:34] <JayJSE2> is there a better fix for the video card driver message than to turn down hardware accelleration?
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#909 [15:35] <mib_d9lml0> no
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#911 [15:38] <JayJSE2> this is more a technical question, but is there any way (without installing a new graphics card) to find a better driver even if there are no new updates?
#912 [15:38] <JayJSE2> (for one)
#913 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - From where and how did you update your video drivers?
#914 [15:42] <JayJSE2> using a program called slimdrivers
#915 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Oi...
#916 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#917 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Alright... what operating system are you on?
#918 [15:45] <JayJSE2> xp, and it's an old intel driver (but still up to date)
#919 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
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#921 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> ??> JayJSE2 win/dxdiag
#922 [15:45] <VoxelHead> JayJSE2: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#923 [15:45] <VoxelHead> JayJSE2: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#924 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> A dxdiag will give us more information about your system, including what video card you have, and what drivers are installed for
#925 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> it*
#926 [15:46] <mib_nd7auv> how do i open and play the free version????
#927 [15:46] <oldtopman> GreyBot: Why not the .bat?
#928 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - Didn't know we had one
#929 [15:46] <mib_nd7auv> i want to wait for xbox
#930 [15:46] <oldtopman> ??>> GreyBot win/dxdiag/bat
#931 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_nd7auv - Classic? Classic is free on the website. See "Oudated but free" on minecraft.net
#932 [15:46] <oldtopman> ??>> GreyVulpine win/dxdiag/bat
#933 [15:47] <oldtopman> derp
#934 [15:47] <oldtopman> bye!
#935 [15:47] <mib_nd7auv> ya, i cant start the game
#936 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_nd7auv - Could you elaborate? What happens when you try?
#937 [15:48] <mib_nd7auv> do you play rigt from the website?
#938 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#939 [15:48] <mib_nd7auv> is there a place to click that says start? i dowloaded java and everything
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#941 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> It should load automatically when you click on either single player, or multiplayer then a server
#942 [15:49] <Jo99> Hi.
#943 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> What version of java did you install?
#944 [15:49] <mib_nd7auv> the mac version
#945 [15:49] <Jo99> I'm back!
#946 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_nd7auv - By going to your apple update and looking for java updates?
#947 [15:50] <mib_nd7auv> i did that and there is no java update
#948 [15:50] <mib_nd7auv> fuck i want to play sooooo bad
#949 [15:50] * AuBot kicked mib_nd7auv from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_nd7auv :Please keep it civil.)
#950 [15:50] <JayJSE2> http://pastebin.com/NGM7FVE5
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#952 [15:50] <Jo99> Hi!!
#953 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap JayJSE2... one sec
#954 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> (those drivers are from 2000
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#956 [15:52] <mib_r63ji0> man, ill but the full game, but i want to make sure it works on my comp
#957 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_r63ji0 - Try the demo
#958 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_r63ji0 demo
#959 [15:52] <VoxelHead> mib_r63ji0: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#960 [15:52] <VoxelHead> mib_r63ji0: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#961 [15:53] <mib_r63ji0> does it work with mac?
#962 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - These should be the latest drivers for you.
#963 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19037&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP*&DownloadType=%0ADrivers%0A
#964 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_r63ji0 - Oh, uh, one moment. Those are windows only
#965 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> ??< index
#966 [15:54] <Jo99> http://mibpaste.com/7nGHZG
#967 [15:54] <JayJSE2> downloading now
#968 [15:54] <Jo99> http://miburl.com/oWoeHH
#969 [15:55] <Jo99> http://miburl.com/oWoeHH
#970 [15:55] <Kealper> Jo99: stop spamming
#971 [15:55] <rymate1234> jo99 type the problem in chat
#972 [15:55] <Jo99> read it
#973 [15:55] <Kealper> Jo99: if someone is able to help, then will
#974 [15:55] <rymate1234> erm
#975 [15:55] <Kealper> (which i am unable to)
#976 [15:55] <rymate1234> did u use optifine with 2
#977 [15:55] <Jo99> bye
#978 [15:55] <rymate1234> 1.9
#979 [15:55] <rymate1234> lol
#980 [15:55] <Kealper> Jo99: also, we don't give support to the prereleases
#981 [15:55] <rymate1234> im trying to help
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#983 [15:56] <rymate1234> stfu im helping
#984 [15:56] <rymate1234> lol
#985 [15:56] <rymate1234> lol
#986 [15:56] <rymate1234> well
#987 [15:56] <Jo99> http://miburl.com/oWoeHH ITS 1.9 PRE 5 ERROR
#988 [15:57] <rymate1234> jo99: did u use optifine in 1.8?
#989 [15:57] <Jo99> no
#990 [15:57] <rymate1234> well
#991 [15:57] <rymate1234> i am out of ideas then
#992 [15:57] * Kealper is tempted to /kick
#992 [15:58] <JayJSE2> going to restart to install the updates now, be back soon
#993 [15:58] <JayJSE2> going to restart to install the updates now, be back soon
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#995 [15:58] <rymate1234> kbai
#996 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> This looks to be a minecraft demo for mac, but I'm not sure if it's legit
#997 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5235-minecraft.html
#998 [15:58] <rymate1234> lol
#999 [15:58] <Jo99> :/
#1000 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Is first time I've seen it..
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#1004 [16:01] <YellowF> hello
#1005 [16:02] <Kealper> whoops...
#1006 [16:02] * GreyVulpine gorilla glues Kealper to the channel
#1006 [16:02] <Kealper> typed /server and not /connect ._.
#1007 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Stay!
#1008 [16:02] <YellowF> someone claims to have cracked MC accounts and send out details here, (s)he also provides a list with censored passwords: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/362477054#362481608
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#1011 [16:04] <su> YellowF: all the newfags
#1012 [16:04] * AuBot kicked su from #minecrafthelp (Reason: u :Please keep it civil.)
#1013 [16:04] <eggy> 4chan.. sigh
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#1015 [16:04] <su> you can't get trips
#1016 [16:04] <JayJSE2> the updates didn't work
#1017 [16:04] <su> /b/ disabled it
#1018 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - Could you give us another dxdiag? Let us see if the updates took?
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#1020 [16:05] <JayJSE2> doing it now
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#1022 [16:07] <incred> hey, got a problem with connection. can some1 help?
#1023 [16:08] <JayJSE2> http://pastebin.com/QEUwfwVJ
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#1026 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - Hmm, nope. still showing drivers from 1/1/2000
#1027 [16:11] <JayJSE2> i think those might be the most up to date
#1028 [16:12] <JayJSE2> (that I can get)
#1029 [16:12] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1029 [16:12] <eggy> 2000?
#1030 [16:12] <eggy> yikes..
#1031 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> As you can see from this page here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19037&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP*&DownloadType=%0ADrivers%0A
#1032 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Latest drivers for that video chipset are 14.37.50.4.5260 from 04/26/2010
#1033 [16:13] <JayJSE2> any ideas why it isn't working?
#1034 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Did the installer give you any errors?
#1035 [16:13] <JayJSE2> no
#1036 [16:13] <JayJSE2> i don't think so
#1037 [16:14] <incred> what is the right time and date for minecraft?
#1038 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - Hmm, actually, I think those drivers are just dated wrong. You are running the latest drivers.
#1039 [16:17] <JayJSE2> so any other ideas?
#1040 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> There are no later video drivers that you can install. Intel's the one that manufactures your video chipset. What you're running is a netbook with a very dated video card that isn't really made for 3d acceleration that minecraft needs.
#1041 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe there's anything else you can do about it
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#1043 [16:20] <mr_evil> ummm
#1044 [16:20] <mr_evil> who talks here
#1045 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> People, undead.
#1046 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Brains.
#1047 [16:20] <mr_evil> -_-
#1048 [16:21] <mr_evil> dude can u help me
#1049 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1050 [16:21] <mr_evil> my game
#1051 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#1052 [16:21] <mr_evil> it keeps on crashing
#1053 [16:21] <mr_evil> for no reason
#1054 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports? Any files named Hs_err_pid?
#1055 [16:21] <mr_evil> ya
#1056 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? What are you doing when it crashes? Could you copy the contents of that error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL?
#1057 [16:22] <mr_evil> i was looking for wood then it crashed
#1058 [16:22] <mr_evil> window 7
#1059 [16:22] <JayJSE2> how come it has only just started doing this when it was working the fine on the same version of minecraft before now?
#1060 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the contents of that hs_err_pid error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL?
#1061 [16:22] <mr_evil> hmmm
#1062 [16:22] <mr_evil> let me see
#1063 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - No idea.
#1064 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Running any other applications in the back ground?
#1065 [16:23] <mr_evil> hold on beb
#1066 [16:23] <mr_evil> brb
#1067 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - With Integrated intel video chipsets, it shares system RAM to do 3d acceleration. If you do not have enough RAM free, the video chipset cannot do 3d acceleration that minecraft needs
#1068 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, on its own, reserves 512 megs, to a gig of RAM.
#1069 [16:24] <mr_evil> umm can u put it into words
#1070 [16:24] <mr_evil> i don't know what u are talking about
#1071 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Do you get a file named hs_err_pid when minecraft crashes?
#1072 [16:24] <mr_evil> yes
#1073 [16:25] <mr_evil> im on it now
#1074 [16:25] <JayJSE2> that's odd cos i think it stopped working around the time my dad put an extra GB of ram in my netbook
#1075 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Could you please open it up. Copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there. Submit it, then give us the http:// address it takes you to
#1076 [16:25] <mr_evil> k
#1077 [16:26] <mr_evil> done
#1078 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - And the URL?
#1079 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - Could you tell me exactly what error you're getting?
#1080 [16:26] <mr_evil> like a java error
#1081 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - In case you didn't notice, I'm also talking to JayJSE2, hence, me prefixing the line with JayJSE2
#1082 [16:27] <mr_evil> here URL http://pastebin.com/H0nqAUTD
#1083 [16:27] <mr_evil> k
#1084 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Looks like a java issue. Uninstall java using your windows control panel (uninstall a program, look for java), then reinstall java 6 from java.com
#1085 [16:28] <mr_evil> do i delete minecraft too
#1086 [16:28] <mr_evil> with it
#1087 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil -No, just java
#1088 [16:28] <mr_evil> k
#1089 [16:29] <JayJSE2> http://pastebin.com/08NU4b9Q
#1090 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you're also running java 7. Java 7 has been known to cause problems with minecraft. Try 6?
#1091 [16:30] <mr_evil> done so i go to the java website right
#1092 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Yes. Java.com
#1093 [16:30] <mr_evil> k
#1094 [16:31] <mr_evil> w8 is it ok if i use google chrome 2 download
#1095 [16:31] <mr_evil> grey?
#1096 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is
#1097 [16:31] <mr_evil> k
#1098 [16:32] <mr_evil> do i change the destination folder 2
#1099 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> No
#1100 [16:32] <mr_evil> k
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#1102 [16:33] <mr_evil> ok im done now what do i do next
#1103 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Run minecraft, play, see if it crashes still?
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#1105 [16:34] <mr_evil> k
#1106 [16:35] <JayJSE2> any ideas from the error message i posted?
#1107 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - Hmm, you're also running java 7. Java 7 has been known to cause problems with minecraft. Try 6?
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#1109 [16:36] <JayJSE2> how do i delete it?
#1110 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> uninstall java from your system, reinstall it from java.com
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#1112 [16:38] <mr_evil> omg really
#1113 [16:38] <mr_evil> it did it again
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#1115 [16:38] <mr_evil> grey it crashed again
#1116 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Error report?
#1117 [16:39] <mr_evil> k
#1118 [16:39] <JayJSE2> do i have to uninstall all of java or could I just uninstall 7
#1119 [16:40] <mr_evil> here http://pastebin.com/rPhYQ9TP
#1120 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> JayJSE2 - I'd recommend uninstalling all java, so you can reinstall java fresh
#1121 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Different error, do you know how to update your video drivers?
#1122 [16:40] <mr_evil> video driver?
#1123 [16:41] <mr_evil> whats that
#1124 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1125 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> mr_evil win/dxdiag
#1126 [16:41] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1127 [16:41] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1129 [16:42] <mr_evil> k
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#1131 [16:43] <mr_evil> i don't see the Win key
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#1133 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> It's between the ctrl and alt keys
#1134 [16:44] <mr_evil> the left or right side
#1135 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Either, it should be between both
#1136 [16:46] <mr_evil> it poped up a window that says run
#1137 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Right, now follow the rest of VoxelHead's instructions
#1138 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> mr_evil win/dxdiag
#1139 [16:46] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1140 [16:46] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1141 [16:50] <mr_evil> are u sure if i can trust u
#1142 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> If you trust people to help you, why did you come here in the first place?
#1143 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> er, didn't trust
#1144 [16:51] <mr_evil> u are a pro right
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#1146 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Been doing this for a while now
#1147 [16:52] <mr_evil> no scam
#1148 [16:52] <zkxs> ... it is just dxdiag, it isn't like anyone can take over your pc with that info
#1149 [16:52] <mr_evil> k
#1150 [16:52] <mr_evil> ok
#1151 [16:53] <mr_evil> here
#1152 [16:53] <mr_evil> http://pastebin.com/jBSL7Yrn
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#1154 [16:53] <mr_evil> what is sxdiag
#1155 [16:53] <Decon> Anyone have any idea why minecraft keeps freezing and crashing only when I play multiplayer?
#1156 [16:53] <mr_evil> dxduag
#1157 [16:53] <mr_evil> wow typeo
#1158 [16:53] <Decon> direct x diagnostics.
#1159 [16:53] <mr_evil> thx
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#1161 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - You're running a NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS video card on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit. The drivers you want to download and install are here:
#1162 [16:54] <mr_evil> anyways what is dxdiag
#1163 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/39065
#1164 [16:54] <zucchini> i need help
#1165 [16:54] <mr_evil> what does this do
#1166 [16:54] <Decon> Anybody else have a problem with multiplayer freezing?
#1167 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - It's what you need to update your nvidia video card's drivers
#1168 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - And to stop from minecraft crashing on you
#1169 [16:55] <mr_evil> k
#1170 [16:55] <mr_evil> no virus right
#1171 [16:55] <zucchini> my cred card wont work on this
#1172 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Right. It's straight from nvidia's site. The company that makes your video card
#1173 [16:55] <mr_evil> k
#1174 [16:56] <zucchini> so can anyone help me?
#1175 [16:56] <mr_evil> how do i change my name from mr_evil
#1176 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> /nick newnick
#1177 [16:57] <zucchini> fuck this
#1178 [16:57] * AuBot kicked zucchini from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ucchini :Please keep it civil.)
#1179 [16:57] <mr_evil> wow
#1180 [16:57] <mr_evil> language
#1181 [16:58] <mr_evil> grey what does op mean beside ur name
#1182 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Means I'm an operator of this channel.
#1183 [16:58] <mr_evil> ohhh
#1184 [16:58] <mr_evil> almost done
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#1186 [17:00] <mr_evil> do i use custom or express
#1187 [17:00] <guest-0-97325> probably express
#1188 [17:00] <mr_evil> k
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#1190 [17:01] <TaannO> hi
#1191 [17:01] <guest-0-97325> hi
#1192 [17:01] <TaannO> I need help
#1193 [17:01] <TaannO> jajaj
#1194 [17:01] <guest-0-97325> with?
#1195 [17:01] <TaannO> I have the bad driver card thing
#1196 [17:02] <TaannO> when i wanna enter in minecraft
#1197 [17:02] <zkxs> ??> TaannO win/dxdiag
#1198 [17:02] <VoxelHead> TaannO: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1199 [17:02] <VoxelHead> TaannO: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1200 [17:03] <mr_evil> grey it stop downloading at graphic driver
#1201 [17:04] <mr_evil> grey?
#1202 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#1203 [17:04] <mr_evil> np
#1204 [17:04] <TaannO> http://pastebin.com/Ze7AWjri
#1205 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Those are the drivers yuo need to download
#1206 [17:04] <TaannO> I am grey?
#1207 [17:04] <Sardonicus> http://www.lastcombat.com/Scott_vs_Cial.html
#1208 [17:05] <mr_evil> k
#1209 [17:05] <mr_evil> nvm its working
#1210 [17:05] <mr_evil> i have 2 w8 a long time
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#1212 [17:05] <TaannO> how do i fix this
#1213 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Wasn't directed at you
#1214 [17:06] <TaannO> ohh ok
#1215 [17:06] <TaannO> got it
#1216 [17:06] <JayJSE2> sorry, internet went wierd... any other ideas?
#1217 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Try: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1218 [17:06] <TaannO> still I need help
#1219 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> You problem may be that you have too little ram
#1220 [17:06] <mr_evil> do i reset now or later
#1221 [17:06] <mr_evil> which is best
#1222 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - You'll need to restart your computer in order for it to take effect
#1223 [17:06] <TaannO> I alreade actualitated
#1224 [17:07] <mr_evil> k
#1225 [17:07] <zkxs> TaannO, you can try this link to update your graphics drivers: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
#1226 [17:07] <TaannO> ok
#1227 [17:07] <TaannO> i'll see
#1228 [17:07] <TaannO> thanks
#1229 [17:08] <TaannO> ¬¬ it says that my driver is current
#1230 [17:08] <TaannO> shit!! :@
#1231 [17:08] <zkxs> TaannO, are you on a netbook?
#1232 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> TaannO has a gig of RAM, and an integrated intel video chipset
#1233 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting it's lack of RAM
#1234 [17:10] <TaannO> no
#1235 [17:10] <TaannO> it has 3 years
#1236 [17:10] <zkxs> he says that he had a "bad driver" error
#1237 [17:10] <TaannO> maybe that xD
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#1240 [17:10] <mr_evil> grey
#1241 [17:10] <mr_evil> u there
#1242 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Right. What happens when you've got minecraft, which reserves a gig of RAM, your operating system ,which takes RAM, as well as any other programs. All siphoning RAM that the video chipset also needs?
#1243 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil -YEs
#1244 [17:11] <zkxs> TaannO, it looks like your hardware might be too old
#1245 [17:11] <mr_evil> im back
#1246 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Try minecraft now
#1247 [17:11] <mr_evil> k
#1248 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> It's not too old, TaannO just needs to execute minecraft with less RAM
#1249 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Hence why I give him: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1250 [17:11] <TaannO> I don't think that minecraft has too much requeriments to my computer
#1251 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Fine. Don't listen to me then
#1252 [17:12] <guest-0-97325> minecraft takes alot of ram
#1253 [17:12] <zkxs> he got a bad video driver error, and intel said the driver is up to date
#1254 [17:12] <TaannO> it's no that
#1255 [17:12] <TaannO> why 1Gb
#1256 [17:12] <zkxs> sounds like an old card to me
#1257 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Good god, do I have to explain it again?
#1258 [17:12] <TaannO> it's old
#1259 [17:12] * GreyVulpine walks.. away.
#1259 [17:13] <mr_evil> nothing is popping up
#1260 [17:13] <guest-0-97325> on 2 gig ram and a integrated inte vidoe chipset it laggs hard, atleast for me
#1261 [17:13] <TaannO> no I understand
#1262 [17:13] <mr_evil> i click it like 2 times
#1263 [17:13] <mr_evil> oh wow
#1264 [17:13] <TaannO> really?
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#1266 [17:13] <TaannO> wow
#1267 [17:14] <guest-0-97325> yea, it laggs, in tiny i get playable fps
#1268 [17:14] <mr_evil> i can't play minecraft
#1269 [17:14] <mr_evil> nothing is popping up
#1270 [17:15] <TaannO> I'll try with less work in the pc
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#1272 [17:16] <TaannO> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1273 [17:16] <mr_evil> nvm
#1274 [17:16] <mr_evil> got it
#1275 [17:16] <mr_evil> i had 2 w8
#1276 [17:16] <mr_evil> -_-
#1277 [17:17] <TaannO> I'm sorry if I don't understand some things
#1278 [17:17] <TaannO> i don't speak english ussualy
#1279 [17:17] <TaannO> kinda' never
#1280 [17:17] <TaannO> xD
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#1282 [17:18] <TaannO> greyvulpine
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#1284 [17:18] <TaannO> have i got a free solution?
#1285 [17:18] <Jc0a> Hello guys
#1286 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Look. That problem usually occurs when your video card doesn't support the OpenGL needed for minecraft. Yes, it usually is fixed by updating your video card's drivers. There's a reason why integrated video chipsets, like your intel card there shares system RAM.
#1287 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> It uses that system RAM to do 3d acceleration. It doesn't have dedicated RAM like many mainstream cards out there.
#1288 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Now, what happens when it doesn't have enough system RAM free that it can siphon for itself? That's right, it can't do 3d acceleration.
#1289 [17:19] <zkxs> ahh
#1290 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, by itself, reserves a gig of RAM to run.
#1291 [17:19] <Jc0a> I have a little problem whit minecraft, am i in the right place? xD
#1292 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Your system. Has a TOTAL of a gig of RAM.
#1293 [17:19] <zkxs> Jc0a, you bet
#1294 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> See where I"m going with this?
#1295 [17:20] <mr_evil> u guys only help with tech problems right
#1296 [17:20] <Jc0a> lwjgl.rar freezes on 7%
#1297 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> We help with technical problems on minecraft, as well as any minecraft questions
#1298 [17:20] <mr_evil> k
#1299 [17:20] <TaannO> i seee
#1300 [17:21] <TaannO> i'm so screwed u.u
#1301 [17:21] <TaannO> jajaja xD
#1302 [17:21] <Jc0a> i too xD
#1303 [17:21] <mr_evil> how do i make a brick house
#1304 [17:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, do I act like a 6th grader?
#1305 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Now, yes, your system is old. But there's a workaround. Minecraft.exe runs with a gig of RAM. You can run minecraft with less RAM reserved for it, so that your video card has more total RAM free for itself.
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#1307 [17:21] <TaannO> how do i do that?
#1308 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> If you just follow the pastebin link I pasted before, it'll show you how to run minecraft with 256 megs of RAM, instead of a gig.
#1309 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1310 [17:22] <mr_evil> i will be back if it crashes again k
#1311 [17:22] <TaannO> ok
#1312 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> You can then modify it to suit your tastes
#1313 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Hmm? Not that I'm aware of.
#1314 [17:23] <Jc0a> GreyVulpine can you help me?
#1315 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? With?
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#1317 [17:23] <Jc0a> lwjgl.rar freezes on 7%
#1318 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> .rar?
#1319 [17:23] <Jc0a> jar sorry :s
#1320 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you're trying to update minecraft, instead of downloading lwjgl yourself..
#1321 [17:24] <Jc0a> like delete a new minecraft.exe?
#1322 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Small distinction there. Classic or beta?
#1323 [17:24] <Jc0a> download
#1324 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> So beta then.
#1325 [17:24] <Jc0a> beta
#1326 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> We see this usually with security software/antivirus software that blocks lwjgl, thinking it's a false positive
#1327 [17:25] <Jc0a> i have no antivirus software
#1328 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> None? At all?
#1329 [17:25] <Jc0a> nope
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#1331 [17:26] <Jc0a> not working
#1332 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Uncommon these days. You're absolutely sure there's no sort of security software at all installed on that computer?
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#1334 [17:26] <Jc0a> 100% sure
#1335 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> if it's not that, what operating system are you on?
#1336 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> if it's not that, what operating system are you on?
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#1338 [17:26] <Jc0a> windows XP
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#1340 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Could you go to your start menu, go to the Run command, type in: %appdata%
#1341 [17:27] <Jc0a> i already delete .minecraft
#1342 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside, delete the bin and resource folders.
#1343 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay..
#1344 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the latest java 6?
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#1346 [17:27] <mr_evil> hi guys
#1347 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1348 [17:28] <TaannO> emm
#1349 [17:28] <mr_evil> grey is it soppose 2 be laggy
#1350 [17:28] <TaannO> I do what the pastebin says
#1351 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Minecraft? No.
#1352 [17:28] <Jc0a> yes
#1353 [17:28] <TaannO> but it still says me the same thing
#1354 [17:28] <mr_evil> well it keeps on freezeinng up
#1355 [17:28] <TaannO> I do the .bat
#1356 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Did you run minecraft with the .bat?
#1357 [17:28] <mr_evil> a liitle
#1358 [17:28] <TaannO> yeah
#1359 [17:29] <TaannO> with the bat?
#1360 [17:29] <TaannO> emm
#1361 [17:29] <TaannO> it says
#1362 [17:29] <Jc0a> GreyVulpine im a android developer i know that evertinhg about java is working fine
#1363 [17:29] <TaannO> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\Mc_1.9_prerelease_5\asd>java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/Launche rFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source
#1364 [17:29] <mr_evil> grey it is forzen now
#1365 [17:29] <pman> Can somebody please help me?
#1366 [17:30] <mr_evil> idk what 2 do
#1367 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Wait, do you have minecraft.jar that you downloaded from www.minecraft.net/download in that asd directory?
#1368 [17:30] <TaannO> yes
#1369 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Not the prerelease.. the launcher
#1370 [17:30] <pman> idk
#1371 [17:30] <zkxs> Jc0a, where is your internet coming from?
#1372 [17:30] <TaannO> wait
#1373 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> There's a minecraft.jar launcher that the pastebin told you to get
#1374 [17:30] <TaannO> it's no .jar
#1375 [17:31] <TaannO> it's exe
#1376 [17:31] <TaannO> why?
#1377 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Get the .jar
#1378 [17:31] <Jc0a> minecraft.net
#1379 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> The .bat is looking for .jar TaannO
#1380 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Jc0a - What version of java do you run? 6? 7?
#1381 [17:31] <TaannO> yeah yeah
#1382 [17:31] <zkxs> Jc0a, at my school when you try to install minecraft their filter blocks the download, and your issue sounds somewhat similar
#1383 [17:31] <TaannO> but i downloaded it
#1384 [17:31] <pman> Hey, hey, hey, guys slow down. One at a time.
#1385 [17:32] <TaannO> but it's exe
#1386 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Make sure you're running minecraft.jar, exactly.
#1387 [17:32] <pman> so
#1388 [17:32] <TaannO> do i change it to .jar?
#1389 [17:32] <Jc0a> 6, i put a mod the game crashes i delete the .minecraft and it frezes when i try to download it again
#1390 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - No, download the .jar from the website
#1391 [17:32] <mr_evil> grey
#1392 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Yeah? Could you tell me exactly how it crashes or freezes?
#1393 [17:33] <TaannO> yeahhhhhh!!!!!
#1394 [17:33] <TaannO> i can play it
#1395 [17:33] <mr_evil> when i go 2 some places
#1396 [17:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#1396 [17:33] <TaannO> thanks man!!
#1397 [17:33] <pman> Ok. Wat is your problem, TaanO.
#1398 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Try it with a new world. See if it does it then
#1399 [17:33] <mr_evil> k
#1400 [17:33] <pman> hello
#1401 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - This is just a workaround. I do recommend looking into a new computer in the future
#1402 [17:34] <pman> shutup
#1403 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> pman - 'lo
#1404 [17:34] <pman> what
#1405 [17:34] <TaannO> yeah
#1406 [17:34] <TaannO> i know
#1407 [17:34] <Jc0a> i have no antivirus or firewall
#1408 [17:34] <TaannO> it's just i spend money on a guitar
#1409 [17:34] <pman> what does 'lo mean
#1410 [17:35] <TaannO> and etc.
#1411 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> pman - Hello
#1412 [17:35] <pman> what
#1413 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> pman - How is your fine day going today?
#1414 [17:35] <zkxs> Jc0a, are you on your home internet or are you at work/school/etc.?
#1415 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> pman - Salutations and greetings to you.
#1416 [17:35] <Jc0a> my home
#1417 [17:36] <mr_evil> it works now
#1418 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Might be that the world you're on, could be corrupted somehow. It happens
#1419 [17:36] <pman> What the heck is that supposed to mean?
#1420 [17:36] <mr_evil> k
#1421 [17:36] <zkxs> you don't have AV or firewall... it isn't really related, but i'm wondering what browser you use?
#1422 [17:36] <TaannO> thanks man
#1423 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> pman - Yo. What's up dude?
#1424 [17:36] <Jc0a> opera why? xD
#1425 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> pman - How's it hanging?
#1426 [17:36] <TaannO> good luck for everyone
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#1428 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> TaannO - Take care
#1429 [17:37] <mib_nvijcq> hello
#1430 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1431 [17:37] <TaannO> you too
#1432 [17:37] <pman> people stop talking for 3 minutes please
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#1434 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> pman - No, you're not the only person ehre.
#1435 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> here*
#1436 [17:37] <zkxs> i'm wondering how you don't have a virus issue. i suppose if you know what you are doing, it all works out though
#1437 [17:37] <TaannO> for anything: matias_quetu@hotmail.com
#1438 [17:37] <pman> no'dere buttwipe
#1439 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> pman - If you got a problem, please just state it, instead of waiting for a person to come to you
#1440 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> There's other people here needing help as well pman.
#1441 [17:38] <Jc0a> zkxs i konw what im doing and my minecraft was working fine till 30min ago
#1442 [17:38] <mib_nvijcq> why does two repeaters create unlimited engery???? not following newtons 3rd law
#1443 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Jc0a - Could you try this with a new computer profile, see if it still does it?
#1444 [17:38] <pman> Iknow this, but I am lost.
#1445 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't, you can drag the .minecraft folder over.
#1446 [17:38] <zkxs> he is in a VM?
#1447 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> pman - Why did you come here? Do you need help?
#1448 [17:39] <Jc0a> ok i will back soonm
#1449 [17:39] <mib_nvijcq> why does two repeaters create unlimited engery???? not following newtons 3rd law
#1450 [17:39] <pman> well yeah
#1451 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_nvijcq - Not everything in a video game has to follow real world physics
#1452 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> pman - And what kind of help do you need?
#1453 [17:39] <mib_nvijcq> i made a loophole, and trying to get something to work.
#1454 [17:40] <mib_nvijcq> Whenever i toggle the redstone with a button, the redstone is on
#1455 [17:40] <pman> how do yall get the names in bold letters
#1456 [17:40] <mib_nvijcq> acting like im using a lever
#1457 [17:40] <mib_nvijcq> instead
#1458 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> pman - Bold letters?
#1459 [17:40] <pman> yes
#1460 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Not aware of anything like that. May just be your IRC client
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#1462 [17:41] <pman> greyvulpine-is your name in bold letters now
#1463 [17:42] <hakeee> if you send i long pulse to a like a button to a repter circle it is like its always on, if you send i quick pulse, a lever fast pulled 2 it can give pulses instead of its always on
#1464 [17:43] <pman> hello
#1465 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> pman - My name on my screen is not in bold
#1466 [17:43] <zkxs> pman, the text formatting you see in irc chat depends on your client. GV is not using mibbit
#1467 [17:44] <pman> look at your screen ais my name in bold letters
#1468 [17:44] <zkxs> nope
#1469 [17:44] <pman> it is on my screen
#1470 [17:45] <zkxs> what is your actual minecraft problem?
#1471 [17:46] <pman> zkxs- Oh. Isyours inbold?
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#1474 [17:47] <pman> hello
#1475 [17:47] <zkxs> no one's name on my screen is bold
#1476 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> pman - Are you here because of a minecraft problem? Is there anything we can help you with that's minecraft related?
#1477 [17:48] <pman> Sorry. It will not let me play. It does not hae "start" on mine.
#1478 [17:49] <pman> hae=have
#1479 [17:49] <pman> hello
#1480 [17:49] <zkxs> are you playing classic or beta?
#1481 [17:50] <pman> GreyVulpine,hello
#1482 [17:50] <zkxs> (classic is the old, free minecraft while beta is the current version)
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#1484 [17:51] <pman> I have to go.
#1485 [17:51] <Jc0a> GreyVulpine it worked
#1486 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Jc0a - Then there's something local to that specific account that's blocking lwjgl from being downloaded..
#1487 [17:51] <Jc0a> but in my profile it still not worked
#1488 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Jc0a - Make absolutely sure .minecraft was deleted, as well as the minecraft.exe/.jar launcher?
#1489 [17:51] <Jc0a> i will see
#1490 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> It's not a system-wide issue then. Java seems to work, as well as your video drivers. this is something local to that profile
#1491 [17:52] <Jc0a> Now is better
#1492 [17:53] <Jc0a> Fatal error occured (4) now is easyer to find out what is wrong
#1493 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> What, what's the full error?
#1494 [17:53] <Jc0a> CONNECTION TIMED OUT
#1495 [17:53] <Jc0a> sorry by the capital
#1496 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> On the new, or the old profile?
#1497 [17:54] <Jc0a> old
#1498 [17:54] <Jc0a> old
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#1500 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you could always just move .minecraft over from the new profile as a bandaid right now, until you figure what what is different from the old profile
#1501 [17:55] <Jc0a> i will check some forums
#1502 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Connection timed out. Hmm. If there wasn't a security software installed on that computer, that would be my first guess
#1503 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, do have to run though.
#1504 [17:56] <Jc0a> np thx for helping me out
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#1506 [17:57] <Razzel> Im having trouble after the world loads after it loads it says minecraft has crashed! really fast
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#1508 [17:58] <Jc0a> Do you add some mod ?
#1509 [17:58] <Razzel> nope
#1510 [17:58] <zkxs> are you on mac osx 10.5.8 ?
#1511 [17:58] <Razzel> nope windows x0
#1512 [17:58] <Razzel> xp*
#1513 [17:59] <zkxs> does it give you any sort of error message?
#1514 [17:59] <Razzel> it says saving chunks
#1515 [17:59] <Razzel> then it makes a black screen
#1516 [17:59] <Razzel> then it says minecraft has crashed really fast then black screen
#1517 [17:59] <zkxs> has minecraft worked before on your computer?
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#1519 [17:59] <Razzel> not on this computer but another one
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#1521 [18:00] <zkxs> is your java up to date?
#1522 [18:00] <zkxs> :j
#1523 [18:00] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1524 [18:00] <Razzel> let me check
#1525 [18:01] <Razzel> downlioading it
#1526 [18:01] <Razzel> I hope this works
#1527 [18:02] <zkxs> if it doesn't, we can just keep trying to find the issue
#1528 [18:02] <Razzel> thanks for the help
#1529 [18:02] <Razzel> is there a good pokemon mod for minecraft
#1530 [18:03] <zkxs> no idea, google it
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#1532 [18:05] <Razzel> im also downloading the latest driver for my graphic card
#1533 [18:05] <zkxs> that can never hurt
#1534 [18:05] <zkxs> that was going to be my next suggestion if java updated didn't work
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#1536 [18:07] <Razzel> wow i dced
#1537 [18:08] <Razzel> -_-
#1538 [18:08] <Razzel> have to redownload
#1539 [18:08] <Razzel> 1min left
#1540 [18:08] <Razzel> i dced when there was "a few seconds remaining" T_T
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#1547 [18:23] <mib_5xiaxb> hey guys... i need some help
#1548 [18:24] <mib_5xiaxb> nvm then
#1549 [18:25] <mib_5xiaxb> well iguess i'll just ask it and see if anyone ever answers
#1550 [18:25] <mib_5xiaxb> when ever i logg into the game it comes up with an error message
#1551 [18:26] <mib_5xiaxb> says something about graphics and i dont understand because my system is a 32 bit and the graphics dont seem too complicated
#1552 [18:26] <Vector> OpenGL related error
#1553 [18:27] <Vector> You should update your video drivers, and see if that fixes it
#1554 [18:27] <mib_5xiaxb> video drivers what are those?
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#1556 [18:28] <Vector> well
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#1558 [18:28] <Vector> they're pretty much code that tells your graphics card how to operate
#1559 [18:29] <clarjon1> mib_5xiaxb: It's pieces of software that let your graphics card work at full potential
#1560 [18:29] <mib_5xiaxb> ah
#1561 [18:29] <flabbergaster> admin?
#1562 [18:29] <mib_5xiaxb> where do i update the drive?
#1563 [18:29] <mib_nvijcq> derp
#1564 [18:29] <Vector> clarjon1: No, drivers are software that are required to run hardware. Without them, the hardware is useless
#1565 [18:29] <flabbergaster> admin her`?
#1566 [18:30] <clarjon1> Admin her? I hardly know her!
#1567 [18:30] <Vector> Windows comes with generic drivers for different pieces of hardware, and because of this, they can't operate with full potential unless you get one from the vendor
#1568 [18:30] <clarjon1> Vector: i know this
#1569 [18:31] <flabbergaster> I've bought my minecraft but it is not unlocked for a week
#1570 [18:31] <Vector> :)
#1571 [18:31] <clarjon1> Vector: I was giving the Easy English version
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#1573 [18:31] <Vector> oh
#1574 [18:31] <Vector> i must go for the less complicated route all the time
#1575 [18:31] <flabbergaster> was kann ich tun?
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#1577 [18:31] <mib_5xiaxb> okay how do i update it at a vendor?
#1578 [18:31] <flabbergaster> what can i do
#1579 [18:31] <flabbergaster> I've bought my minecraft but it is not unlocked for a week
#1580 [18:31] <flabbergaster> what can i do
#1581 [18:32] <flabbergaster> hello ?
#1582 [18:32] <flabbergaster> pls help me
#1583 [18:33] <Scott> What is your minecraft username?
#1584 [18:33] <Scott> Be patient, by the way.
#1585 [18:33] <flabbergaster> SplashTheKing :D
#1586 [18:33] <flabbergaster> is my username
#1587 [18:33] <Scott> !paid SplashTheKing
#1588 [18:33] <flabbergaster> hää?
#1589 [18:33] <Scott> How did you pay?
#1590 [18:33] <flabbergaster> my username
#1591 [18:33] <Scott> Paypal, Moneybookers, etc.
#1592 [18:34] <flabbergaster> aaah
#1593 [18:34] <flabbergaster> ec card
#1594 [18:34] <Scott> ec card?
#1595 [18:34] <flabbergaster> http://www.minecraft.net/store/game
#1596 [18:34] <flabbergaster> ec card
#1597 [18:34] <flabbergaster> ec
#1598 [18:34] <Scott> mib_5xiaxb: Hi.
#1599 [18:34] <Scott> Do you use Windows?
#1600 [18:34] <flabbergaster> yes xD
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#1602 [18:35] <Scott> You paid with a eurocheque card?
#1603 [18:35] <flabbergaster> yes
#1604 [18:35] <Scott> Has the transaction posted on your account?
#1605 [18:35] <mib_5xiaxb> hello? how do i update my video card at a vendor?
#1606 [18:35] <Scott> mib_5xiaxb: Do you use Windows?
#1607 [18:36] <mib_5xiaxb> yes xp
#1608 [18:36] <Scott> ??> mib_5xiaxb win/dxdiag
#1609 [18:36] <flabbergaster> Ich denke schon
#1610 [18:36] <VoxelHead> mib_5xiaxb: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1611 [18:36] <VoxelHead> mib_5xiaxb: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1612 [18:36] <flabbergaster> i think so
#1613 [18:36] <Scott> Check your bank account or whatever it is and make sure you were charged.
#1614 [18:37] <flabbergaster> hmkay thanks
#1615 [18:37] <mib_5xiaxb> woah thats alot
#1616 [18:37] <Scott> According to Wikipedia, Eurocheque cards were discontinued.
#1617 [18:38] <mib_5xiaxb> whats this win key?
#1618 [18:38] <zkxs> mib_5xiaxb, it has a litle flag in it
#1619 [18:38] <mib_5xiaxb> ah
#1620 [18:38] <Scott> its on the bottom of your keyboard
#1621 [18:38] <Scott> like the start button usually
#1622 [18:38] <mib_5xiaxb> oh ic ic
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#1624 [18:44] <Scott> If you follow those instructions, I can help you fix it.
#1625 [18:46] <JesseM> i am on a mac OSX 10.5.8 forced update and now when i log in i just have a black screen
#1626 [18:47] <Scott> Minecraft 1.8 doesn't work on OSX 10.5
#1627 [18:47] <zkxs> :old/mac
#1628 [18:47] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#1629 [18:47] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
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#1631 [18:48] <mib_5xiaxb> almost done
#1632 [18:48] <Scott> Whoever created that has to be joking.
#1633 [18:48] <Scott> 10.5 isn't supported anymore...
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#1635 [18:51] <mib_5xiaxb> http://pastebin.com/p5M41wjZ
#1636 [18:51] * zkxs blames wug
#1636 [18:52] <Scott> Give me a few minutes mib_5xiaxb
#1637 [18:52] <Calinou> Scott: 1.9?
#1638 [18:53] <mib_5xiaxb> aure
#1639 [18:53] <Calinou> wait ten days, fixed. :)
#1640 [18:53] <Calinou> or use the fan made fix
#1641 [18:53] <mib_5xiaxb> sure
#1642 [18:54] <Scott> mib_5xiaxb: download and install this: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/9498/a08/win2k_xp1417.exe
#1643 [18:54] <mib_5xiaxb> will it take a while?
#1644 [18:55] <mib_5xiaxb> nvm
#1645 [18:55] <Scott> I don't know
#1646 [18:55] <Scott> I didn't download it
#1647 [18:55] <mib_5xiaxb> so what does this do
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#1649 [18:56] <Scott> It is the latest drivers for your graphics
#1650 [18:56] <mib_5xiaxb> oh so this is going to make my machine run more graphics?
#1651 [18:56] <Scott> It should resolve the error you're getting.
#1652 [18:57] <mib_5xiaxb> says it cant download it
#1653 [18:57] <Scott> What error?
#1654 [18:57] <mib_5xiaxb> this computer cannot install this driver. please contact computer manufacturer for more information
#1655 [18:57] <Scott> Ok...
#1656 [18:57] <Scott> Hold on
#1657 [18:58] <zkxs> this is supposed to do it automatically: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
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#1659 [18:59] <Scott> No that won't work.
#1660 [18:59] <Scott> Unfortunately, you can't update your drivers any further.
#1661 [18:59] <mib_5xiaxb> :/
#1662 [18:59] <Scott> Dell didn't release any more updates other than what you already have and Intel blocks you from installing their version.
#1663 [19:00] <mib_5xiaxb> Wow your good haha
#1664 [19:00] <mib_5xiaxb> oh well no minecraft for me i guess
#1665 [19:00] <Scott> zkxs: In the future use mac/10.5.8 from VoxelHead please.
#1666 [19:00] <Scott> Sorry :(
#1667 [19:00] <zkxs> yessir
#1668 [19:00] <mib_5xiaxb> back to runescape lol
#1669 [19:00] <mib_5xiaxb> peace
#1670 [19:00] <Scott> byebye
#1671 [19:01] <eggy> lol
#1672 [19:03] <JesseM> does anyone have the 1.9 prerelease downlaod
#1673 [19:03] <Scott> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar
#1674 [19:03] <Scott> it is not supported
#1675 [19:03] <Scott> so do not whine if it breaks everythign
#1676 [19:04] <eggy> lol
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#1679 [19:09] <mr_evil> hi
#1680 [19:10] <mr_evil> can some1 help me
#1681 [19:10] <mr_evil> hello?
#1682 [19:10] <mr_evil> any1
#1683 [19:11] <mr_evil> any1 here that can help me
#1684 [19:11] <mr_evil> plz
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#1686 [19:15] <mib_30ffcu> hello
#1687 [19:15] <mib_30ffcu> can some1 help me
#1688 [19:15] <mib_30ffcu> hello
#1689 [19:15] <TheNytangel> Ask a question >.>
#1690 [19:15] <mib_30ffcu> my game keeps on freezeing up
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#1693 [19:16] <mib_30ffcu> umm nytangel
#1694 [19:17] <mib_30ffcu> hello?
#1695 [19:17] <mib_30ffcu> u there
#1696 [19:17] <mib_30ffcu> -_-
#1697 [19:17] <mib_30ffcu> any1 else that can help me
#1698 [19:18] <mib_30ffcu> plz
#1699 [19:19] <mib_30ffcu> hello any1
#1700 [19:19] <mib_30ffcu> plzzzzzzzzzzzz
#1701 [19:19] <Scott> 1. You are annoying.
#1702 [19:19] <Scott> 2. You have yet to provide any information that will help us resolve your issue.
#1703 [19:19] * |Kiikun|School| [|Kiikun|School|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1704 [19:19] <Scott> 3. Stop spamming, dammit.
#1705 [19:19] <mib_30ffcu> -_-
#1706 [19:19] <mib_30ffcu> ok ok
#1707 [19:19] <mib_30ffcu> like what kind of info
#1708 [19:19] <|Kiikun|School|> lol..
#1709 [19:19] <Scott> how is it freezing?
#1710 [19:20] * mib_4zqweo [mib_4zqweo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1711 [19:20] <mib_30ffcu> like when i walk around
#1712 [19:20] <mib_30ffcu> and it freezes up
#1713 [19:20] <Scott> Do you have to reopen the game?
#1714 [19:20] <mib_30ffcu> ya
#1715 [19:20] <Scott> Do you have any mods/
#1716 [19:20] <mib_4zqweo> has anyone else had problems when trying to buy the full version?
#1717 [19:20] <mib_30ffcu> no
#1718 [19:21] <mib_30ffcu> w8 mods?
#1719 [19:21] <mib_30ffcu> what are mods
#1720 [19:21] <Scott> Have you added any mods?
#1721 [19:21] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_4zqweo: a few poeple for different reasons...
#1722 [19:21] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_4zqweo: whats your issue with purchasing?
#1723 [19:21] <mib_4zqweo> im trying to buy it for my son and the transaction failed. i know the money is in account
#1724 [19:22] <mib_30ffcu> scott what are mods
#1725 [19:22] <Scott> If you don't know what they are, you probably don't have any.
#1726 [19:22] <Scott> Open the game and click force update
#1727 [19:22] <mib_30ffcu> just tell me
#1728 [19:22] <mib_30ffcu> k
#1729 [19:23] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_4zqweo: it is probably your bank blockign the transaction because its international. its part of fraud prevention. call your bank and tell them you wish to authorize the payment.
#1730 [19:23] <mib_30ffcu> i just got this yesterday
#1731 [19:23] <mib_4zqweo> ok thanks!!
#1732 [19:23] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_4zqweo: Mojang AB through Moneybookers
#1733 [19:23] <mib_30ffcu> i don't see any update
#1734 [19:24] <mib_30ffcu> dude u there?
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#1736 [19:24] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_30ffcu: openm the launcher DONT LOG IN. click options, click force update. then log in
#1737 [19:25] <mib_ygvi5i> hey
#1738 [19:25] <mib_30ffcu> k
#1739 [19:25] <mib_ygvi5i> i hope that u can help me...
#1740 [19:25] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: hey yourself *wink*
#1741 [19:25] <|Kiikun|School|> :P
#1742 [19:25] <mib_30ffcu> thx kiikun
#1743 [19:25] <mib_ygvi5i> Ive created a minecraft server and i can reach
#1744 [19:25] <mib_ygvi5i> but
#1745 [19:26] <mib_ygvi5i> my friend cannot reach
#1746 [19:26] <mib_ygvi5i> so..
#1747 [19:26] <mib_ygvi5i> no one cant reach
#1748 [19:26] <mib_ygvi5i> except me
#1749 [19:27] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: as grey says, not if your relying on our telepathic powers of pwnsolveness...
#1750 [19:27] <|Kiikun|School|> or im lagged o.o;
#1751 [19:27] <mib_ygvi5i> heuu
#1752 [19:27] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: you runnign server on your comp?
#1753 [19:27] <mib_ygvi5i> yes
#1754 [19:27] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: type !check in here
#1755 [19:28] <mib_ygvi5i> what?
#1756 [19:28] <|Kiikun|School|> .. nm
#1757 [19:28] <|Kiikun|School|> !check modemcable174.209-131-66.mc.videotron.ca
#1758 [19:29] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: you have to forward your ports through your router to allow people outside your local network (read: house) to play
#1759 [19:29] <mib_ygvi5i> i did.. but no one cant reach again
#1760 [19:29] <mib_ygvi5i> i checked my port foward with portchecker
#1761 [19:30] <mib_ygvi5i> and it said that my port was open
#1762 [19:30] <mib_30ffcu> kiikun
#1763 [19:30] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_ygvi5i: if its stopped workign after a reboot or something then your local ip may have changed.
#1764 [19:30] <mib_30ffcu> its still freezen up
#1765 [19:31] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_30ffcu: jessssSSSSS*boom*
#1766 [19:31] <Scott> I'm going to create a portforward service.
#1767 [19:31] <Scott> $5 for the first port and $2.50 for every port after. xd
#1768 [19:31] <|Kiikun|School|> Scott: lol
#1769 [19:31] <|Kiikun|School|> ok class resuming o.o;
#1770 [19:31] <mib_30ffcu> so what do i do now
#1771 [19:32] <mib_30ffcu> Aubot
#1772 [19:32] <mib_30ffcu> can u help me plz
#1773 [19:32] <|Kiikun|School|> ?? aubot
#1774 [19:32] <VoxelHead> aubot: Aubot is also a bot.
#1775 [19:32] <mib_30ffcu> O_O
#1776 [19:33] <mib_30ffcu> oh
#1777 [19:33] <mib_30ffcu> head can u help me then
#1778 [19:33] <|Kiikun|School|> ?? bot
#1779 [19:33] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1780 [19:33] * Scott bangs his head on his desk.
#1780 [19:33] <|Kiikun|School|> ...
#1781 [19:33] <mib_30ffcu> o_o
#1782 [19:33] <mib_30ffcu> ok
#1783 [19:33] <mib_ygvi5i> SO...
#1784 [19:34] <|Kiikun|School|> mib_30ffcu: update java? video card drivers? your entire computer?
#1785 [19:34] <mib_30ffcu> how do i fix my freezing problem in the game
#1786 [19:34] <mib_30ffcu> ok
#1787 [19:34] <mib_30ffcu> i did the java before
#1788 [19:34] <mib_30ffcu> i did it all
#1789 [19:34] * |Kiikun|School| pays attention to teacher now
#1789 [19:34] <mib_ygvi5i> so u want that i port foward and reboot my computer?
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#1792 [19:35] <zkxs> mib_ygvi5i, have you made an exception in your firewall?
#1793 [19:36] <mib_ygvi5i> heum, no?
#1794 [19:37] <zkxs> mib_ygvi5i, windows has a firewall on by default. you must both port forward AND make a firewall exception for minecraft
#1795 [19:37] <mib_ygvi5i> k
#1796 [19:38] <mib_ygvi5i> k,then have you a video that someone is explaining that? xD
#1797 [19:38] <mib_ygvi5i> i will try..
#1798 [19:38] <mib_ygvi5i> cause i dont know how to make an exception...
#1799 [19:39] <zkxs> are you on windows 7?
#1800 [19:39] <mib_ygvi5i> yes
#1801 [19:39] <zkxs> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/542-windows-firewall-add-remove-exception.html
#1802 [19:40] <zkxs> mib_ygvi5i, you will need to know the name of the executable
#1803 [19:40] <tlkfatman> why is it every server i join alwas gose down when i have the day off
#1804 [19:41] <zkxs> murphy's law
#1805 [19:41] <mib_ygvi5i> executable? is that minecraft
#1806 [19:41] <zkxs> mib_ygvi5i, try making exceptions for java.exe and javaw.exe
#1807 [19:42] <mib_ygvi5i> k
#1808 [19:42] <zkxs> do javaw.exe first
#1809 [19:42] <tlkfatman> any 1 here know a server that has money and isnt alwas down?
#1810 [19:42] <zkxs> i think that is the one
#1811 [19:42] <mib_ygvi5i> k
#1812 [19:44] <zkxs> mib_ygvi5i, also, i am 99% sure you haven't set up port forwarding correctly. my tests say your port 25565 is closed
#1813 [19:44] <zkxs> !check
#1814 [19:44] <mib_ygvi5i> yea i need to do again...
#1815 [19:44] <mib_ygvi5i> but i only see java tm...
#1816 [19:44] <mib_ygvi5i> java tm platform..
#1817 [19:46] <mib_ygvi5i> yea,, i dont see any jawa.exe
#1818 [19:46] <zkxs> try that
#1819 [19:46] <mib_ygvi5i> k
#1820 [19:47] <zkxs> btw, what ip address are you telling your friends to connect to? you *should* be giving them 66.131.209.174
#1821 [19:47] <mib_ygvi5i> no im giving the one that i have on hamachi
#1822 [19:48] <zkxs> ...
#1823 [19:48] <mib_ygvi5i> i have 2 java platform..
#1824 [19:48] <zkxs> you didn't say anything about hamachi
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#1826 [19:48] <zkxs> do you have access to your router? can you log into it?
#1827 [19:49] <mib_ygvi5i> with 192.168.1.1?
#1828 [19:49] <zkxs> yes
#1829 [19:50] <zkxs> i can't/won't help you with hamachi, but i will help you set up port forwarding and do things the normal way
#1830 [19:50] <zkxs> of course, you have to know your router password to do that
#1831 [19:50] <mib_ygvi5i> yes i know the password
#1832 [19:50] <zkxs> lol, then why are you using hamachi?
#1833 [19:50] <zkxs> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1834 [19:50] <Scott> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1835 [19:50] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1836 [19:51] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1837 [19:51] <zkxs> ;)
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#1839 [19:51] <mib_ygvi5i> because everyone is usiing hamachi lol
#1840 [19:52] <zkxs> only because they don't know how to do port forwarding correctly
#1841 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> The people that actually know what they're doing, use port forwarding at home, or a hosting company outside
#1842 [19:53] <mib_ygvi5i> then, what do you want that i do? lol
#1843 [19:53] <zkxs> forward port 25565 to your local ip
#1844 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi adds needless complexity, including unnecessary overhead and traffic. Not to mention, people that want to join your server, need to have hamachi as well, and join your hamachi netowkr
#1845 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> network*
#1846 [19:54] <mib_ygvi5i> hey guys thanks
#1847 [19:54] <mib_ygvi5i> really thanks BUT
#1848 [19:55] <mib_ygvi5i> i only had to set public to my java platform on my firewall
#1849 [19:55] <mib_ygvi5i> thats it
#1850 [19:55] <mib_ygvi5i> i didnt foward port foward lol
#1851 [19:56] <zkxs> well if you are good with that, great
#1852 [19:57] <zkxs> port forwarding is a much more elegant solution, in the opinions of everyone here.
#1853 [19:57] <mib_ygvi5i> lol
#1854 [19:58] <zkxs> -.- hamachi *grumble grumble grumble*
#1855 [20:03] * DopeGhoti adds a rule to instaban for any instance of 'use hamachi' not prefixed by "don't"
#1855 [20:05] <zkxs> :D
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#1860 [20:07] <argoths> HELP!!! i play minecraft allot, but lately when i play minecraft after about 3 minutes or so the browser closes down and i have to reload minecraft. Some of my friends have the same problem. any sugestions?
#1861 [20:07] <oldtopman> argoths: Have you tried the downloaded version?
#1862 [20:08] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Mind if I test it?
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#1864 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: I was being facetious.
#1865 [20:08] <Decon> My game keeps freezing and crashing when playing multiplayer, anyone else know what that might be?
#1866 [20:08] <oldtopman> D@MN
#1867 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> though I am tempted to actually do so.
#1868 [20:08] <oldtopman> Pleeeeeease?
#1869 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Decon: does this only happen when playing online?
#1870 [20:08] <Decon> yes
#1871 [20:09] <argoths> you mean in the browser on the website or downlading off the webiste, logging in on the page, and then playing? yeah
#1872 [20:09] <argoths> what do you mean mind if you test it?
#1873 [20:10] <zkxs> argoths, he was talking about something else
#1874 [20:10] <Decon> it freezes on both the browser version and the .exe file version
#1875 [20:10] <argoths> any suggestions for my problem? if none thats ok
#1876 [20:10] <argoths> i know
#1877 [20:10] <argoths> i mean not for your problem but what zkxs said
#1878 [20:11] <zkxs> argoths, does the launcher crash, or only the browser-applet
#1879 [20:11] <argoths> um........... can you be more specific? not amazing with technological terms
#1880 [20:12] <Decon> Anyone have any idea why it would be crashing in multiplayer but not single player?
#1881 [20:12] <zkxs> argoths, the launcher is the .exe file you download
#1882 [20:12] <argoths> uh... you mean the thing that pops up when i press the minecraft icon?
#1883 [20:13] <zkxs> argoths, does it have news on top and a login thing on bottom?
#1884 [20:13] <argoths> yeah the new stuff to minecraft, and a login button at the bottom
#1885 [20:14] <argoths> it closes down after about three minutes or so
#1886 [20:14] <zkxs> is your java up to date?
#1887 [20:14] <zkxs> ??> argoths java/version
#1888 [20:14] <VoxelHead> argoths: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1889 [20:14] <VoxelHead> argoths: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#1891 [20:15] <argoths> version 6
#1892 [20:15] <zkxs> is it version 6 update 29?
#1893 [20:15] <Decon> anyone?
#1894 [20:16] <argoths> version 6 update 1
#1895 [20:16] <clarjon1> update one?
#1896 [20:16] <clarjon1> Wow, that's....
#1897 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> old?
#1898 [20:16] <zkxs> update your java
#1899 [20:16] <argoths> do i hit download verion 6 update 29?
#1900 [20:16] <clarjon1> You might wanna update, for security reasons alone...
#1901 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> ^ what zkxs said.
#1902 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? getjava
#1903 [20:16] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1904 [20:16] <clarjon1> argoths: yeah, hit download
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#1906 [20:17] <zkxs> lol, everyone is concerned for you
#1907 [20:17] <argoths> k downloading
#1908 [20:17] <clarjon1> Not as bad as earlier today
#1909 [20:17] <argoths> k ill try minecraft and see if it doesnt close down
#1910 [20:17] <clarjon1> i had to deal with a client who had a host of problems with some proprietary java app
#1911 [20:17] <clarjon1> she had java 1.3
#1912 [20:18] <zkxs> :O
#1913 [20:18] <clarjon1> yeah, 1.3...
#1914 [20:18] <zkxs> people actually program things in java!?
#1915 [20:18] <clarjon1> Oh yeah.
#1916 [20:19] <zkxs> the only successful java program i know of is minecraft. hmm... wonder why? ;)
#1917 [20:20] <zkxs> Decon, do you get an error message you can give us?
#1918 [20:21] <argoths> almost done downlaoding
#1919 [20:22] <argoths> so this will help with my browser problem, downloadting the new java?
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#1921 [20:22] <zkxs> perhaps, but it is good to have java up-to-date irregardless
#1922 [20:23] <argoths> ah
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#1924 [20:24] <zkxs> one of the main reasons they update java is to fix security issues
#1925 [20:24] <scum> minecraft doesnt work anymore for me, the screen just goes white after i log in and try to play
#1926 [20:24] <scum> any way to fix it?
#1927 [20:24] <zkxs> what os are you on?
#1928 [20:25] <scum> windows xp
#1929 [20:25] <zkxs> first of all, lets try reinstalling minecraft
#1930 [20:25] <zkxs> ??> scum win/reinst
#1931 [20:25] <VoxelHead> scum: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1932 [20:25] <VoxelHead> scum: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1933 [20:28] <scum> i play in the browser though, when i installed it before, i logged in and then it closed on it own, then a file pooped up called "hs_err_pid3..." popped up
#1934 [20:28] <zkxs> can you give me the error using pastebin?
#1935 [20:28] <scum> what does that mean haha sorry
#1936 [20:28] <zkxs> ??> scum pastebin
#1937 [20:28] <VoxelHead> scum: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1938 [20:29] <scum> ill load it now
#1939 [20:31] <scum> what do i name the file?
#1940 [20:31] <zkxs> it doesn't matter, all we need is the url you get
#1941 [20:31] <Decon> It think I fixed it. Render distance set to highest was screwing me up. Idk why that was a problem though, I can run BF3 on ultra no problem.
#1942 [20:31] <Decon> *I
#1943 [20:32] <zkxs> Decon, it could have been a RAM issue, minecraft uses craploads of ram
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#1945 [20:32] <Decon> 8GBs?
#1946 [20:32] <zkxs> huh, nevermind
#1947 [20:32] <Decon> 1600Mhz clock speed on each
#1948 [20:32] <Decon> yea idk lol
#1949 [20:33] <Decon> custom rig, idk why its happening
#1950 [20:33] <Decon> but once i turned it to normal it stopped
#1951 [20:33] <argoths> guys i downloaded the new java and didnt help with my unexpected closing down of my minecraft browser
#1952 [20:33] <scum> http://pastebin.com/23G5n9qA
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#1954 [20:35] <argoths> ok in case ive been gone too long ill restate my problem
#1955 [20:36] <argoths> when i play minecraft after about three minutes the browser closes down. a few of my friends have had the same problem. any suggestions?
#1956 [20:36] <Decon> what browser are you using?
#1957 [20:36] <zkxs> scum, it looks like an opengl issue. lets try updating your video card drivers
#1958 [20:37] <scum> how do i do that :S im so useless with computers
#1959 [20:37] <zkxs> ??> scum win/dxdiag
#1960 [20:37] <VoxelHead> scum: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1961 [20:37] <VoxelHead> scum: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1962 [20:37] <argoths> i have java version 6 update 29
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#1965 [20:39] <scum> alright
#1966 [20:40] <zkxs> argoths, check in %appdata%\.minecraft for files starting with he_err...
#1967 [20:40] <argoths> ok where would app data be?
#1968 [20:40] <argoths> control panel?
#1969 [20:40] <zkxs> argoths, press Win + R
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#1971 [20:41] <zkxs> paste %appdata%\.minecraft into the run dialog and hit enter
#1972 [20:41] <scum> http://pastebin.com/S6XtTXmq
#1973 [20:42] <argoths> ok ao ia windows between ctrl and alt?
#1974 [20:42] <zkxs> yes
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#1976 [20:42] <argoths> k
#1977 [20:43] <argoths> .err?
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#1979 [20:43] <argoths> oh he.rr
#1980 [20:43] <zkxs> scum, try this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1981 [20:44] <argoths> closest thing i can find to taht is this hs_err_pid(number without parenthesis
#1982 [20:44] <scum> okay
#1983 [20:45] <argoths> and its under documents
#1984 [20:45] <zkxs> argoths, that is it, find the most recent one and put it in pastebin for us to look at
#1985 [20:45] <scum> argoths, sounds similar to what mine is doing, im trying to sort it out
#1986 [20:45] <zkxs> (there may be more than one)
#1987 [20:46] <argoths> hs_err_pid5688
#1988 [20:46] <scum> zkxs, so i should download the driver update thing
#1989 [20:46] <zkxs> yeah
#1990 [20:47] <zkxs> ??> argoths pastebin
#1991 [20:47] <VoxelHead> argoths: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1993 [20:47] <zkxs> open hs_err_pid5688 (probably in notepad) and put it in pastebin as per the above instructions
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#1995 [20:49] <zkxs> scum, is it working for you?
#1996 [20:49] <argoths> http://pastebin.com/ebYx2j2p
#1997 [20:49] <argoths> is that right?
#1998 [20:49] <zkxs> yes
#1999 [20:49] <scum> its downloading, and im using dial-up cos im at my grandparents
#2000 [20:49] <zkxs> ah :)
#2001 [20:50] <zkxs> i remember dial-up
#2002 [20:50] <scum> i wish i didnt have to lol
#2003 [20:50] <argoths> zkxs does taht help to see my problem?
#2004 [20:50] <zkxs> argoths, it looks like you have the exact same issue scum does
#2005 [20:50] <zkxs> scum, dial-up makes you appreciate irc though
#2006 [20:51] <scum> yeah thats true
#2007 [20:51] <zkxs> argoths, you must update your graphics drivers
#2008 [20:51] <argoths> i tried taht, but the nvidia link i go to wont show me available updates. ill try again
#2009 [20:52] <zkxs> argoths, there is usually some sort of auto-detect feature
#2010 [20:52] <scum> it has a "download now" buttong, but i cant click it
#2011 [20:52] <zkxs> beats me
#2012 [20:52] <scum> ill re-load it
#2013 [20:53] <zkxs> are you on a laptop, and if so, what model?
#2014 [20:53] <scum> umm an old IBM t42
#2015 [20:53] <zkxs> AHA
#2016 [20:53] <zkxs> http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-41918
#2017 [20:54] <zkxs> lol, i like how it has instructions on how to "transfer files greater than 1.44 MB to multiple floppies"
#2018 [20:54] <argoths> says download now for graphics driver, do i click it?
#2019 [20:55] <zkxs> yep
#2020 [20:55] <argoths> k
#2021 [20:55] <zkxs> windows shouldn't let you install the wrong driver
#2022 [20:55] <scum> lol ikr, what do i do once on that page?
#2023 [20:55] <argoths> ok its downloading
#2024 [20:56] <Scott> I just got a popup to update java on OSX
#2025 [20:56] <zkxs> down at the bottom there is a link for the "Display driver (ATI Radeon, FireGL) "
#2026 [20:56] <scum> click it?
#2027 [20:56] <zkxs> are you even on osx?
#2028 [20:56] <Scott> So if you have a Mac, check for updates o:
#2029 [20:57] <zkxs> scum, yeah, make sure it isn't the readme
#2030 [20:57] <argoths> im downloading
#2031 [20:57] <scum> alright :)
#2032 [20:57] <zkxs> pfft, who needs instructions
#2033 [20:58] <scum> gotta love downloading stuff with dial up, its like walking without legs
#2034 [20:58] <zkxs> yep.
#2035 [20:58] <Scott> I used dialup for a week.
#2036 [20:58] <Scott> Except I had wifi.
#2037 [20:58] <zkxs> :o
#2038 [20:59] <Scott> It was very ghetto.
#2039 [20:59] <zkxs> dialup wifi...
#2040 [20:59] <zkxs> in da hood, dial-up is wireless
#2041 [20:59] <zkxs> lol
#2042 [20:59] <scum> 800kb 31.3mb haha
#2043 [20:59] <Scott> I dialed in on a computer, setup internet connection sharing, connected my router via ethernet to that computer, and then I could connect on my mac via wifi :D
#2044 [21:00] <zkxs> nice
#2045 [21:00] <zkxs> that is like using a massive pipe for a tiny little spicket
#2046 [21:00] * AuBot kicked zkxs from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kxs :Please keep it civil.)
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#2048 [21:00] <scum> 1hr 25mins to go *gets comfortable*
#2049 [21:00] <TheNytangel> O.o
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#2051 [21:00] <zkxs> what did i do?
#2052 [21:01] <TheNytangel> Didn't keep it civil
#2053 [21:01] <zkxs> :/ i don't get it
#2054 [21:01] <zkxs> massive pipe
#2055 [21:01] <scum> :S
#2056 [21:02] <zkxs> does the last word in my above sentance have some meaning i don't know of?
#2057 [21:02] <scum> 1hr 45mins *gets even more comfortable*
#2058 [21:02] * zkxs googles
#2058 [21:03] <zkxs> does aubot not like fixtures found on the exterior of homes commonly know as spickets?
#2059 [21:03] * AuBot kicked zkxs from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kxs :Please keep it civil.)
#2060 [21:03] <argoths> 27% downloaded
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#2062 [21:03] <zkxs> i guess so
#2063 [21:03] <scum> lol
#2064 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> That's.. spigot
#2065 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> spick is a derogatory term
#2066 [21:03] <scum> 7% downloaded
#2067 [21:04] <zkxs> huh
#2068 [21:04] <scum> ive never heard of that word greyvulpine
#2069 [21:04] <zkxs> who knew?
#2070 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> !def spigot
#2071 [21:04] <GreyBot> Word: spigot [spig·ot]
#2072 [21:04] <GreyBot> Noun:  A faucet. See Regional Note at andiron.
#2073 [21:04] <GreyBot> Noun:  A wooden faucet placed in the bunghole of a cask.
#2074 [21:04] <zkxs> :O
#2075 [21:04] <TheNytangel> !def spicket
#2076 [21:04] * AuBot kicked TheNytangel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNytangel :Please keep it civil.)
#2077 [21:04] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
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#2079 [21:04] * GreyVulpine doesn't do !def on the other
#2079 [21:04] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#2080 [21:05] <zkxs> botfight!?
#2081 [21:05] * TheNytangel di do !def on the other
#2081 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Better off in urban dictionary
#2082 [21:05] * GreyVulpine goes back to afkland
#2082 [21:05] <zkxs> Urban dictionary: "A person of hispanic origin who is using water in any manner"
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#2084 [21:06] <scum> wtf
#2085 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> It's basically derogatory for hispanics
#2086 [21:06] <zkxs> ah
#2087 [21:06] <zkxs> silly me, not knowing the lingo
#2088 [21:06] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2088 [21:06] <zkxs> i bet aubot can cuss like a pro
#2089 [21:07] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, do you want to come over to my play station and play with my Wii?
#2090 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#2091 [21:07] <TheNytangel> :P
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#2093 [21:07] <DreadLindwyrm> I'd be interested in knowing the banned word list, but then again it would probably take a while and be quite depressing.
#2094 [21:07] <argoths> *cough*
#2095 [21:07] <argoths> *laugh*
#2096 [21:07] <argoths> *goes on a rant about some random thing*
#2097 [21:08] <argoths> one word, one word
#2098 [21:08] <conortm> hello, all! anyone know if there's a switch in the java command to select a different server.properties file?
#2099 [21:08] <argoths> *kills
#2100 [21:08] <argoths> *kills*
#2101 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> conortm - There is not
#2102 [21:08] <argoths> cool
#2103 [21:08] <zkxs> DreadLindwyrm, for some reason i have a banned word list for North Canton City Schools in my google docs
#2104 [21:08] <conortm> thanks, GreyVulpine!
#2105 [21:08] <zkxs> i don't even know where north canton is
#2106 [21:08] <scum> 12% downloaded :/
#2107 [21:09] <zkxs> uwant?
#2108 [21:09] <argoths> 48 %
#2109 [21:09] <argoths> 48 %
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#2111 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> !weather north canton
#2112 [21:10] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#2113 [21:11] <scum> 15% *dies*
#2114 [21:11] <argoths> 54% *laughs*
#2115 [21:11] <argoths> 56%
#2116 [21:11] <TheNytangel> !weather ISN
#2117 [21:11] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: From Williston, North Dakota (7:52p Nov 08 11) temp(29 F / -2 C, feels like 20 F / -6 C) cond(Partly Cloudy) wind(West at 9 mph / 15 km/h) hu(78%) dewpnt(23 F / -5 C) bp(30.23 in / 1024 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 11000 ft / 3352 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2118 [21:11] <argoths> 57%
#2119 [21:11] <GreyBot> Rest of Tonight: Partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 20. West winds around 10 mph.
#2120 [21:12] <scum> 16% *drags lounge over*
#2121 [21:12] <argoths> 60%
#2122 [21:12] <TheNytangel> argoths...
#2123 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#2124 [21:12] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (9:08p Nov 08 11) temp(62.8 F / 17.1 C) cond(Overcast) wind(South at 1.0 mph / 1.6 km/h) hu(67%) dewpnt(52 F / 11 C) bp(30.00 in / 1015.8 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 4300 ft / 1310 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2125 [21:12] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain. Temperatures around 60. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.
#2126 [21:12] <Scott> !weather 63857
#2127 [21:12] <GreyBot> Scott: From Kennett E911, Kennett, Missouri (8:12p Nov 08 11) temp(70.4 F / 21.3 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(South at 9.0 mph / 14.5 km/h) hu(70%) dewpnt(60 F / 16 C) bp(29.82 in / 1009.7 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 8500 ft / 2590 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#2128 [21:12] <GreyBot> Now: Showers and thunderstorms continue to move across northeastern Arkansas and the Missouri bootheel. These showers and storms will move to the northeast at 40 mph. Additional showers and thunderstorms across central Arkansas will move towards northeastern Arkansas as well. A few of these storms could be strong to severe. Rainfall amounts over the next couple of hours will between
#2129 [21:12] <GreyBot> one quarter of an inch and one half of an inch. Isolated higher amounts will be possible.Tornado Watch 878 in effect until 1 am CST Wednesday...
#2130 [21:12] <GreyBot> Alert: Tornado Watch 878 in effect until 1 am CST Wednesday...
#2131 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Eep
#2132 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2133 [21:13] <zkxs> scum, this is a great time to tune your epic minesweeper skills
#2134 [21:14] <scum> haha believe me, ive been usuing dial up for quite some time recently, my minesweeper skills are erm....the best? lol
#2135 [21:14] <Scott> Why can't you get high speed?
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#2137 [21:15] <scum> cos im at my grandparents
#2138 [21:15] <argoths> 68%
#2139 [21:15] <Scott> Old people aren't allergic to high speed.
#2140 [21:15] <zkxs> well...
#2141 [21:16] <scum> 18% haha but they dont really use th internet much, and it doesnt bother me that much, im fairly patient
#2142 [21:16] <TheNytangel> Scott, it might be.... too fast for them. They might die.
#2143 [21:16] <Scott> Thankfully, we have 4G here now and I have cable internet now.
#2144 [21:16] <zkxs> What all old people can do: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/447170
#2145 [21:16] <Scott> but satellite is always another option! o:
#2146 [21:17] <zkxs> oops, cloud!
#2147 [21:18] <argoths> 77%
#2148 [21:18] <TheNytangel> Scott, we are getting cable internet
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#2149 [21:18] <scum> 19%
#2150 [21:18] <Scott> I moved and apparently AT&T can't have DSL here.
#2151 [21:18] <Scott> and the earliest I could get cable connected was a week later
#2152 [21:18] <TheNytangel> 10x fast speed than we have now.. 10Mbps download compared to .4 Mbps, an 5Mbps upload compared to .3Mpbs upload
#2153 [21:18] <TheNytangel> Faster*
#2154 [21:18] <Scott> Actually they said 2 weeks but I demanded it sooner
#2155 [21:18] <TheNytangel> And*
#2156 [21:18] <Scott> and well, I got it sooner
#2157 [21:19] <Scott> I have 10mbit down here too. I could get 15 if I paid $9 more a month lol
#2158 [21:19] <Scott> I have 10mbit down here too. I could get 15 if I paid $9 more a month lol
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#2160 [21:19] <Scott> and 5mbit/1mbit over HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul.
#2161 [21:19] <TheNytangel> Scott, I could get 50 if we paid $200 a month, and that comes with 15 upload :P
#2162 [21:19] <zkxs> you can irc really fast with that
#2163 [21:19] <argoths> 84 %
#2164 [21:19] <Scott> 50/15 is $99 here
#2165 [21:20] <TheNytangel> Fu
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#2167 [21:20] <TheNytangel> We have a better economy than you :P
#2168 [21:20] <scum> $200 a month :O thats insane lol
#2169 [21:20] <zkxs> where are you two?
#2170 [21:20] <TheNytangel> At home
#2171 [21:20] <zkxs> i meant country
#2172 [21:20] <Scott> WildBlue or HughesNet is faster than dialup though.
#2173 [21:20] <scum> Australia :)
#2174 [21:21] <Scott> WildBlue has launched a new satellite too that will provide considerably faster speeds than they do now.
#2175 [21:21] <TheNytangel> Oh
#2176 [21:21] <TheNytangel> It's $104 for the 100/15
#2177 [21:22] <Scott> $80/month with a 24 month contract for 1.5mbit/256kbit
#2178 [21:22] <Scott> 17gb down/5gb up cap
#2179 [21:22] <argoths> 92%
#2180 [21:23] <Sardonicus> TF2 is racist game
#2181 [21:23] <zkxs> argoths, are you also on dial up?
#2182 [21:23] <scum> 22%
#2183 [21:24] <argoths> no
#2184 [21:24] <argoths> 98%
#2185 [21:24] <argoths> 99%
#2186 [21:24] <Scott> How fast are you downloading?
#2187 [21:24] <TheNytangel> What did I say earlier?
#2188 [21:24] <TheNytangel> 10 download?
#2189 [21:24] <TheNytangel> It's actually 30...
#2190 [21:24] <Scott> lol.
#2191 [21:24] <argoths> 100%
#2192 [21:25] <argoths> AGH what happened?
#2193 [21:26] <TheNytangel> http://pastebin.com/h2hQSPVr
#2194 [21:26] <TheNytangel> :)
#2195 [21:26] <argoths> 12 %
#2196 [21:26] <argoths> second download
#2197 [21:26] <argoths> 35%
#2198 [21:26] <TheNytangel> And then there is 50/10 and 100/15
#2199 [21:26] <scum> ?
#2200 [21:26] <argoths> 61 %
#2201 [21:27] <zkxs> apparently i'm getting 8.9 down / 3.7 up
#2202 [21:27] <TheNytangel> argoths, shh
#2203 [21:27] <scum> lol
#2204 [21:27] <TheNytangel> And then they have 1/1 for old people >.>
#2205 [21:27] <TheNytangel> Hell, that's faster than what we have now
#2206 [21:28] <zkxs> one entire mbit/s!?
#2207 [21:28] <TheNytangel> Mmmhm
#2208 [21:28] <TheNytangel> I have .5 download .3 upload
#2209 [21:28] <TheNytangel> Getting 30/5 for christmas :P
#2210 [21:28] <zkxs> nice
#2211 [21:28] <zkxs> what would the application of your 30 down be?
#2212 [21:29] <zkxs> super fast torrents?
#2213 [21:29] <TheNytangel> No
#2214 [21:29] <TheNytangel> Super fast youtube loading videos
#2215 [21:29] <zkxs> lol
#2216 [21:29] <TheNytangel> I can watch in 1080p instead of 360 or whatever :D
#2217 [21:30] <argoths> ok installing still
#2218 [21:30] <argoths> installing graphics driver
#2219 [21:30] <TheNytangel> Plus I could host a minecraft server and keep doing let's plays with my friend
#2220 [21:30] <zkxs> do you need 30 to stream 1080p?
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#2223 [21:30] <zkxs> i wish they had something like 10 down 20 up
#2224 [21:31] <zkxs> just to be different
#2225 [21:31] <scum> 27& :O
#2226 [21:31] <scum> %*
#2227 [21:31] <zkxs> i think it is getting slower
#2228 [21:32] <scum> i think so
#2229 [21:32] <zkxs> quickly, punch you modem
#2230 [21:32] <scum> lol
#2231 [21:33] <zkxs> nostalgia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHW1ho8L7V8
#2232 [21:34] <TheNytangel> You know what else I could do with 30/5...
#2233 [21:34] <TheNytangel> POR *cough* I mean, live stream minecraft
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#2235 [21:35] <argoths> k done loading
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#2237 [21:36] <mib_trh2pz> hello
#2238 [21:36] <zkxs> ?? irc/mibnick
#2239 [21:36] <VoxelHead> irc/mibnick: You have apparently been given a random name by the web-based client you are using. Please select an intelligible one by thinking of a name, and typing "/NICK YourNiftyNewName". Thank you.
#2240 [21:38] <TheNytangel> Scott
#2241 [21:39] <scum> 34% :/
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#2243 [21:40] <scum> whoa, it just finished
#2244 [21:40] <zkxs> that does not bode well
#2245 [21:40] <CLazyQuY> Hi i need help with the lwjgl.jar freezing
#2246 [21:40] <scum> what lol
#2247 [21:40] <CLazyQuY> i read a forum and it said to go here lol.
#2248 [21:40] <zkxs> scum, usually when it does that, something isn't right
#2249 [21:41] <zkxs> CLazyQuY, does this issue happen on different accounts?
#2250 [21:41] <CLazyQuY> say no
#2251 [21:41] <CLazyQuY> no sorry lol
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#2253 [21:41] <scum> well i opened it, and agreed to the license thing, and it was to save to "C:\DRIVERS\WIN\DISPLAY" click next?
#2254 [21:41] <CLazyQuY> i have 2 accounts though. But I only use CLaZyQuY
#2255 [21:42] <zkxs> scum, try it...
#2256 [21:42] <scum> said is completed
#2257 [21:42] <zkxs> CLazyQuY, do you have antivirus running?
#2258 [21:42] <CLazyQuY> zkxs do you know the solution of this pr
#2259 [21:42] <CLazyQuY> i have AVG
#2260 [21:42] <CLazyQuY> free
#2261 [21:42] <scum> ooh and now "send erroe report" "dont send" why did that pop up
#2262 [21:42] <scum> says it nedds to close and what-not
#2263 [21:42] <CLazyQuY> the minecraft worked after i installed the avg.
#2264 [21:43] <zkxs> scum, my guess is a failed download
#2265 [21:43] <scum> :/
#2266 [21:43] <zkxs> CLazyQuY, try minecraft on your other account
#2267 [21:43] <zkxs> just as a test
#2268 [21:43] <CLazyQuY> all right.
#2269 [21:43] <scum> should i try to download it again?
#2270 [21:44] <CLazyQuY> zkxs this happend while i was trying to install mods lol
#2271 [21:44] <zkxs> scum, if you want. you could wait though
#2272 [21:44] <CLazyQuY> x-ray, helicoptor both failed T^T i'm a noob
#2273 [21:44] <zkxs> clarjon1, wait then
#2274 [21:44] <clarjon1> hmm
#2275 [21:44] <zkxs> oops, sorry
#2276 [21:44] <scum> wait for what exactly? lol
#2277 [21:44] <CLazyQuY> LOL it went to 98% but stopped dammit lol
#2278 [21:44] <zkxs> tab completed the wrong name
#2279 [21:44] <CLazyQuY> now do you want me to try again with CLaZyQuY? or the 2nd account
#2280 [21:45] <zkxs> go bac to CLazyQuY
#2281 [21:45] <zkxs> and do this:
#2282 [21:45] <TheNytangel> This wouldn't happen with a 30Mbps download speed now, would it CLazyQuY? :P
#2283 [21:45] <zkxs> ?? win/reinst
#2284 [21:45] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2285 [21:45] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2286 [21:45] <CLazyQuY> i believe it wouldnt happen if i didnt lag for like once while downloading.
#2287 [21:45] <CLazyQuY> so if the lag did not happen, and it went all smooth and clean, while updating
#2288 [21:45] <CLazyQuY> it would not do this.
#2289 [21:45] <CLazyQuY> i over tried it for like 30 times over and over and over
#2290 [21:45] <CLazyQuY> lol
#2291 [21:46] <CLazyQuY> let me try again
#2292 [21:46] <zkxs> CLazyQuY, vox will mute you if you type to many lines too fast
#2293 [21:46] <CLazyQuY> sorry lol. and also its working now.
#2294 [21:46] <zkxs> cool
#2295 [21:46] <CLazyQuY> zkxs do you think you can help me with installing mods?
#2296 [21:46] <zkxs> ?? mods
#2297 [21:46] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2298 [21:46] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2299 [21:47] <zkxs> just follow the instructions EXACTLY
#2300 [21:47] <CLazyQuY> ooh lol i'm sorry.
#2301 [21:47] <zkxs> don't forget meta-inf
#2302 [21:47] <zkxs> good luck!
#2303 [21:47] <CLazyQuY> thanks zkxs
#2304 [21:47] <scum> what should i wait for zkxs
#2305 [21:47] <zkxs> you don't have to wait, that was directed at someone else
#2306 [21:48] <CLazyQuY> zkxs what if I want mods for Multiplayer? and i'm the host. for legit one(from minecraft.net) with offline mode?
#2307 [21:48] <zkxs> scum, you could try again or wait until you get your nice internet back
#2308 [21:48] <scum> ohh okay
#2309 [21:48] <zkxs> CLazyQuY, look into bukit
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#2311 [21:48] <zkxs> and make sure any mods you install match your client/server version
#2312 [21:48] <CLazyQuY> one more question: should the server itself be from bukkit? or can it be just straight from minecraft.net server?
#2313 [21:48] <Agentsix1> any one have the server exe
#2314 [21:48] <CLazyQuY> yeap. i'm aware of that :)
#2315 [21:48] <Agentsix1> or a link i can get
#2316 [21:49] <zkxs> bukit is a mod you apply to the minecraft.net server
#2317 [21:49] <zkxs> you need both
#2318 [21:49] <CLazyQuY> server exe - can't u just get that straight from minecraft.net download?
#2319 [21:49] <CLazyQuY> aiite i'll go to #bukkit
#2320 [21:49] <scum> well before the last update minecraft worked great in the browser, but it asked me to update so i agreed, and its being doing the hs_err_pid thing ever since
#2321 [21:49] <Agentsix1> for 1.9 pre 4
#2322 [21:49] <zkxs> for bukit get the server.jar
#2323 [21:49] <zkxs> just google bukit, it has instructions
#2324 [21:49] <zkxs> Agentsix1, one moment
#2325 [21:49] <Agentsix1> i need the minecraft server files or 1.9 pre 4
#2326 [21:49] <Agentsix1> mainly exe
#2327 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> There are no .exes for pre-release servers
#2328 [21:50] <zkxs> .exe isn't out
#2329 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Only the .jar
#2330 [21:50] <zkxs> .jar is the same thing, only not as pretty
#2331 [21:50] <zkxs> here is a link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/268-19-pre-release-4-is-out/
#2332 [21:50] <Agentsix1> ill take har
#2333 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#2334 [21:50] <Agentsix1> jar*
#2335 [21:50] <VoxelHead> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#2336 [21:50] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#2337 [21:51] <Agentsix1> i need pre 4
#2338 [21:51] <Agentsix1> if they have it
#2339 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> replace 5 with 4 if you want that
#2340 [21:51] <Agentsix1> is that for servers
#2341 [21:51] <Agentsix1> or for the game
#2342 [21:51] <zkxs> there is a link for each
#2343 [21:51] <Agentsix1> thank you
#2344 [21:51] <scum> anyways, thanks for helping, i might try again at a later date
#2345 [21:51] <Agentsix1> i guess im updating to 1.9 5
#2346 [21:51] <zkxs> scum, no problem
#2347 [21:52] <Agentsix1> alrighbt
#2348 [21:52] <Agentsix1> thanks
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#2350 [21:55] <Agentsix1> thanks works great
#2351 [21:55] <Agentsix1> wow spawn loaded fast
#2352 [21:56] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, a 3GB file with a 5Mbps upload speed would take.. 15 minutes?
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#2354 [21:58] <zkxs> TheNytangel, i think it is 80 minutes
#2355 [21:59] <TheNytangel> That would be 3072Mb with 5 a second..
#2356 [21:59] <zkxs> source: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=3GB+at+5mbps
#2357 [21:59] <zkxs> keep in mind mb is bytes and mbps is bits
#2358 [21:59] <TheNytangel> :D
#2359 [21:59] <TheNytangel> Still better than 1 days :D
#2360 [21:59] <TheNytangel> 1 day*
#2361 [22:00] <zkxs> yep
#2362 [22:01] <Agentsix1> do you guys have a 1.9 pre 4 server download
#2363 [22:01] <TheNytangel> I'm surprised I uploaded 6 3GB files with my crappy internet >.>
#2364 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft_server.jar
#2365 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Like I said, just replace 5 with 4 from the link
#2366 [22:01] <Agentsix1> ya i did
#2367 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> That should be the pre4 server then
#2368 [22:02] <Agentsix1> having issues with transfering map from 4 to 5
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#2370 [22:03] <Agentsix1> i think something curropt my map i think
#2371 [22:03] <Agentsix1> that woiuld suck
#2372 [22:03] <zkxs> "The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable."
#2373 [22:03] <Agentsix1> lol
#2374 [22:03] <zkxs> vox, give Agentsix1 a cookie
#2375 [22:04] <Agentsix1> im having a issue
#2376 [22:04] <Agentsix1> its really pissing me off
#2377 [22:04] <Agentsix1> see if i can fix it in mc edit
#2378 [22:04] <zkxs> not enough cookie? -.- *glares at vox
#2379 [22:08] <Agentsix1> well thats kinda lame
#2380 [22:08] <Agentsix1> i lost all my animals i bread
#2381 [22:09] <zkxs> hum drum
#2382 [22:09] <Agentsix1> o well
#2383 [22:09] * oldtopman deep fries his breaded things immediately.
#2383 [22:10] <Agentsix1> ill just load up 1.7.3 use single player commands and spawn up wat disapered
#2384 [22:11] <Agentsix1> alright thx for help
#2385 [22:11] <Agentsix1> i fixed my problem
#2386 [22:11] <Agentsix1> i learned now im gonna create a auto back up program
#2387 [22:11] <Agentsix1> so every time i load min ecraft
#2388 [22:11] <zkxs> good idea
#2389 [22:11] <Agentsix1> it backs up my worlds
#2390 [22:11] <Agentsix1> just about lost over 10 + hours of work
#2391 [22:11] <Agentsix1> :\
#2392 [22:20] <zkxs> whatever happened to Morrolan?
#2393 [22:21] <Agentsix1> respawned my animals YAY
#2394 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> !seen morrolan
#2395 [22:21] <GreyBot> I last saw morrolan (~Morrolan@cust.static.84-253-56-154.cybernet.ch) 5hrs 52mins 11secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: G'night
#2396 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> He still hops on from time to time
#2397 [22:21] <zkxs> ah
#2398 [22:21] <zkxs> !seen michl3545
#2399 [22:21] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#2400 [22:21] <zkxs> lol
#2401 [22:21] <zkxs> how old is greybot?
#2402 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Been with me for years
#2403 [22:22] <zkxs> is it tied to ident? my old ident expired...
#2404 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#2405 [22:22] <zkxs> huh
#2406 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Greybot's not that advanced. It only looks at nicks
#2407 [22:23] <zkxs> it doesn't remember me from 4 months ago
#2408 [22:23] <zkxs> D:
#2409 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> !seen michl
#2410 [22:23] <GreyBot> I found 1 results for your LastSeen query. Here are the results, starting with the newest result: Michl3546
#2411 [22:23] <GreyBot> I last saw Michl3546 (Michl3545@ip98-184-132-216.tu.ok.cox.net) 15wks 2hrs 26mins 18secs ago, changing their nickname to Michl3545.
#2412 [22:24] <zkxs> huh
#2413 [22:24] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2413 [22:24] <zkxs> thats odd
#2414 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Greybot does crash from time to time. Has a tendancy to screw with the hash tables storing the seen database
#2415 [22:25] <zkxs> ah
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#2419 [22:46] <Rashoni> Ive got a graphics problem with my game, can someone help?
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#2421 [22:47] <Rashoni> Anyone here? *pokes*
#2422 [22:47] <zkxs> Rashoni, what error do you get?
#2423 [22:48] <Rashoni> Well, its more like a graphics glitch, every block has a wireframe around each edge, and all the water blocks have pink corners that flicker
#2424 [22:48] <Rashoni> even at the title screen the yellow subtitle is glitchy
#2425 [22:48] <zkxs> huh
#2426 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> You have Antialiasing forced in your video settings on your OS
#2427 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Tends to do that to minecraft
#2428 [22:48] <Rashoni> *checks his settings*
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#2430 [22:50] <Rashoni> Antialiasing is set at 2x, thats the lowest setting i think,
#2431 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Can you turn it to off, or application controlleD?
#2432 [22:51] <Rashoni> im using a GeForce 8400 GS, i think i might be able to
#2433 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then nvidia's control panel should have an application controlled option for AA
#2434 [22:52] <Rashoni> Well it fixed the problem, but ive never had that happen before... settings must have changed cause i reinstalled windows recently
#2435 [22:52] <Rashoni> thanks for the help guys ^_^
#2436 [22:52] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2441 [23:45] <Albuca> Can anyone here able to help me with a WorldGuard issue?
#2442 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to either check out #worldguard or #Bukkit for that
#2443 [23:48] <Albuca> Thanks
#2444 [23:48] <Albuca> Thanks
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