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#11 [00:53] <evil9731> hello
#12 [00:54] <evil9731> my game is black screening after i installed a mod. any ideas why? i deleted the meta-inf folder like i was supposed to
#13 [00:55] <almostroot> evil9731: Mod may have not been update for the version of Minecraft you're using. I suggest reinstalling.
#14 [00:56] <evil9731> never mind, it appears to have righted itself when i forced update
#15 [00:56] <evil9731> but thank you anyways
#16 [00:56] <almostroot> evil9731: That is similar to reinstalling. Any mods you had have now been removed.
#17 [00:56] <evil9731> i appretiate it
#18 [00:56] <evil9731> eh??? un instaled?
#19 [00:57] <almostroot> evil9731: Force update removes the bin folder in your minecraft directory and re-downloads those files.
#20 [00:58] <evil9731> oh...
#21 [00:58] <evil9731> then perhaps you can help with another problem
#22 [00:58] <evil9731> if thats alright?
#23 [00:59] <almostroot> evil9731: Hmm?
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#25 [00:59] <evil9731> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/399699-final-fantasy-i/ im trying to download this, but before i do, there are some mods i need at the bottom of the page first. but 2 of them are not accessable, perhaps you can help?
#26 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Slopes is available here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/151725-100-kaevator-mods-slopes-ceiling-stairs-and-hedges-new-wooden-frames/
#27 [01:01] <almostroot> evil9731: They seem to be accessible.
#28 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Shelf 1.0.0 is available in risugami's post here; http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v100-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#29 [01:02] <evil9731> s in accesable it says to me everytime
#30 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> They both seem to be updated for 1.0.0 properly. you just need to install modloader before those two
#31 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> What is?
#32 [01:02] <almostroot> GV, always stealing my thunder.
#33 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Shelf is available as a direct download from: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/Latest/Shelf.zip
#34 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> And slopes can be found at this link: http://adf.ly/41vzM
#35 [01:03] * GreyVulpine sticks a tongue out at almostroot.
#35 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> (press skip ad at the adfly link)
#36 [01:04] <evil9731> thank you for the help
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#38 [01:04] * almostroot thinks forced advertising is ridiculous.
#38 [01:04] <evil9731> if it doesnt work ill come back tho, so dont think u got rid of me
#39 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget to install Risugami's modloader before you do those two mods.
#40 [01:04] <mib_5e8uoo> How do you make skins in minecraft?
#41 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_5e8uoo - Extract the textures.png file from your minecraft.jar file using a compression program, then edit with an image editor of your choice.
#42 [01:06] <mau5ie> lol.
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#45 [01:10] <MiX-MaN> sigh.. need to figure out how i can get rid of these cant keep up messages on the server :(
#46 [01:10] <CooliSushi> I need help.
#47 [01:10] <MiX-MaN> CooliSushi: just ask.. someone will help if they can
#48 [01:11] <CooliSushi> I bought minecraft about 2 hours ago and I still don't have it...
#49 [01:11] <CooliSushi> I tried forums and other but I can't find the right answer
#50 [01:11] <MiX-MaN> just download the client and login
#51 [01:11] <CooliSushi> that didn't work either
#52 [01:11] <MiX-MaN> login with the account you paid under
#53 [01:11] <|Kiikun|> CooliSushi mcnet username?
#54 [01:12] <CooliSushi> that's the problem, it wont let me
#55 [01:12] <CooliSushi> its CooliSushi
#56 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> !paid CooliSushi
#57 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> ??> CooliSushi payment
#58 [01:12] <MiX-MaN> ah
#59 [01:12] <VoxelHead> CooliSushi: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#60 [01:12] <CooliSushi> I have
#61 [01:12] <VoxelHead> CooliSushi: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#62 [01:13] <CooliSushi> "take a few hours. Be patient."
#63 [01:13] <CooliSushi> I'll try that ^
#64 [01:13] <MiX-MaN> :P
#65 [01:13] <|Kiikun|> CooliSushi also check with your bank to confirm payment was taken. and you woudl have gotten 2 emails. one from moneybookers and oen from mojang
#66 [01:13] <CooliSushi> ok
#67 [01:13] <CooliSushi> thanks
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#69 [01:13] <evil9731> WOO HOO!!! the mods work now. last time, i installed them all at the same time
#70 [01:13] <CooliSushi> I don't want to take the risk and re buy it
#71 [01:14] <MiX-MaN> being patient is the hard part..
#72 [01:15] <CooliSushi> It is..I wanted to play today...still want to play right now...
#73 [01:15] <MiX-MaN> you ever played it?
#74 [01:16] <CooliSushi> yep
#75 [01:16] <MiX-MaN> ahh k :P
#76 [01:16] <MiX-MaN> i thought it was stupid till i tried it..
#77 [01:16] <CooliSushi> Cracked version, but I decided to buy it
#78 [01:16] <CooliSushi> yeah same
#79 [01:16] <CooliSushi> that's y I bought it today
#80 [01:16] <CooliSushi> but it doesn't work...
#81 [01:17] <MiX-MaN> heh.. i was whining about a same situation the other day..wont bring it up though.. its off topic
#82 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> CooliSushi: crackked versions liek to do.. odd... things to you... if they arnt just straight viral infections
#83 [01:18] <MiX-MaN> ya :\
#84 [01:18] <CooliSushi> ok
#85 [01:18] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: Knew a girl like that.
#86 [01:18] <MiX-MaN> i thought most are like that
#87 [01:18] <mau5ie> lmao
#88 [01:18] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: same... cept it was curses instead of infections
#89 [01:18] <MiX-MaN> hah
#90 [01:18] <CooliSushi> I just want to play minecraft :'(
#91 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> 20 bucks says minecraft was redirected to some other site, and that money's now long gone.
#92 [01:20] * GreyVulpine coughs
#92 [01:20] <MiX-MaN> O_O
#93 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> ...
#94 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> oh.. right
#95 [01:20] <CooliSushi> D:
#96 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/hosts
#97 [01:20] <CooliSushi> better not be >.>
#98 [01:20] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#99 [01:20] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#100 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> lets check!
#101 [01:21] <CooliSushi> I don't know if I should re buy minecraft :/
#102 [01:21] <MiX-MaN> how long have you been waiting?
#103 [01:22] <CooliSushi> 2 hours
#104 [01:22] <MiX-MaN> :\
#105 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Many people wait a few hours, some who wire money, need to wait up to 5 business days for banks to clear their payment
#106 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> In the scheme of things, 2 hours is nothing
#107 [01:23] <MiX-MaN> unless your made of money .. i'd at least give it a day before thinking about rebuying
#108 [01:23] <MiX-MaN> youre*
#109 [01:23] <CooliSushi> it took me months to earn this money...
#110 [01:24] <CooliSushi> I am finally able to buy this game and I can't play it :|
#111 [01:24] <MiX-MaN> i feel for you.. dunno what i'd do w/o my minecrack
#112 [01:24] <CooliSushi> I'll give it a week
#113 [01:24] <CooliSushi> if not
#114 [01:24] <CooliSushi> idk what to do
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#116 [01:26] <|Kiichan|> ~.~
#117 [01:26] <|Kiichan|> derp. need to increment the variable in a while loop.
#118 [01:27] <CooliSushi> I'm going to go be emo now
#119 [01:28] <CooliSushi> and sit in a little corner
#120 [01:28] <CooliSushi> bye guys
#121 [01:28] <MiX-MaN> :\ bought it twice and bro got it.. all payments were pretty much instant
#122 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> Although transactions can be instant, this channel's seen people having to wait several hours for premium status.
#123 [01:31] <Wug> not recently though iirc
#124 [01:31] <Wug> havent seen anyone have to wait for a long time
#125 [01:31] <Wug> usually now it turns out to be blocked payments
#126 [01:31] <Wug> and the occasional trollbank dointg a chargeback
#127 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> True..
#128 [01:35] <MiX-MaN> so is there any other tweaks i can do other than giving more memory to reduce these can't keep up messages
#129 [01:36] <Wug> probably not
#130 [01:36] <Wug> you could decrease the view distance in the server config
#131 [01:36] <Wug> that might help a bit
#132 [01:36] <Wug> but as a trade off, you lose some visibility
#133 [01:36] <MiX-MaN> ya.. i might try it.. but if i dont get any other lag complaints ill just leave it alone and ignore the message
#134 [01:37] <MiX-MaN> its hosted on a pretty powerfull machine.. dunno what its bottle neck is.. other than java
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#136 [01:43] <|Kiichan|> + 4 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 3 + 1 + 2 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 7 + 1e30 #minecrafthelp ok.. lest see if this GreyBot still breaks....
#137 [01:43] * |Kiichan| crys
#137 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> ...
#138 [01:44] * GreyVulpine kicks |Kiichan|
#138 [01:44] <mau5ie> :<
#139 [01:44] <|Kiichan|> im messing with tabcomplete script..
#140 [01:45] <|Kiichan|> want it to place cursor at end of the name after each tabbing
#141 [01:45] <|Kiichan|> its not supposed to spawn that massive chunk of numbers!
#142 [01:46] <|Kiichan|> ok there... i hate having to encapsulate things in $calc :/
#143 [01:46] <TheNoodle> :D
#144 [01:48] * |Kiichan| stabs TheNoodle forthe heck of it
#144 [01:48] <TheNoodle> <3
#145 [01:50] * |Kiichan| sticks TheNoodle into a pasta press
#145 [01:53] * mau5ie provides |Kiichan| with a pot of boiling water
#145 [01:53] * |Kiichan| uses to cook lobster
#145 [01:53] <mau5ie> Bah.
#146 [01:54] <|Kiichan|> :P
#147 [01:54] <|Kiichan|> mau5ie: i been workign on water stuff anyway
#148 [01:54] <mau5ie> aka: seafood?
#149 [01:54] * |Kiichan| has expanded the skydock idea into a full blown transit system for an airbase
#149 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> even have (usually) working accelerator road!
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#152 [02:05] <shifty> i need some help
#153 [02:06] <shifty> anyone willing to help me solve my problem
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#155 [02:08] <shifty> alright well if anyone shows up i get an error message along the lines of "invalid argument == null"
#156 [02:08] <shifty> when it boots up
#157 [02:08] <shifty> and browser shuts down
#158 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Are.. you using the demo?
#159 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#160 [02:08] <shifty> no the orginal free version
#161 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you use either Avira antivirus or mcafee?
#162 [02:08] <shifty> mcafee but its out dated
#163 [02:09] <shifty> i have norton now
#164 [02:09] <shifty> delete mcafee?
#165 [02:09] * |Kiichan| reboots for AVAST!
#165 [02:10] <shifty> idk ive heard this is a usual problem
#166 [02:10] <shifty> its something to do with java but i have the very latest version
#167 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> It usually has to do with your AV software
#168 [02:10] <shifty> and it keeps saying "invalid argument == null" or whatever
#169 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> You mean, fatal error (4): null?
#170 [02:12] <shifty> idk
#171 [02:12] <shifty> its like a pop up
#172 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me exactly what the error is telling you
#173 [02:12] <shifty> in browser when i use the free version the game loads for half a second
#174 [02:12] <shifty> yeah 2 seconds
#175 [02:13] <shifty> java.lang.invalidargument==null!
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#178 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> By "free version", you mean the demo? Or the oudated classic client at minecraft.net?
#179 [02:14] <shifty> classic yes sorry classic
#180 [02:15] <shifty> any in brower one @ minecraft.net gives me that pop up and crashes the browser
#181 [02:15] <shifty> ive searched all over google
#182 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a more complete error report, or is it just that one line?
#183 [02:16] <shifty> that one line pops up in a small window then firefox just x's out
#184 [02:17] <shifty> ive tried on firefox
#185 [02:17] <shifty> chrome
#186 [02:17] <shifty> and IE
#187 [02:17] <shifty> all the same line
#188 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#189 [02:18] <auscompgeek> anything in the Java Console?
#190 [02:18] <shifty> java.lang.invalidargumentexption. imnput == null!
#191 [02:18] <shifty> no
#192 [02:18] <shifty> which is weird
#193 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting it does though
#194 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> I've only seen that error occur because of one reason
#195 [02:19] <shifty> god hates me ?
#196 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows are you on?
#197 [02:19] <shifty> ....
#198 [02:19] <almostroot> Hasn't it occur with other punctuation marks as well/.
#199 [02:19] <shifty> vista...
#200 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> XP? Vista? 7
#201 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - Not that I've seen
#202 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> And it's only at the end of the username, doesn't happen at the start, or in the middle
#203 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> shifty - Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#204 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if the folder name that it takes you to, has any ! marks in it
#205 [02:20] <shifty> yes
#206 [02:20] <auscompgeek> that is odd.
#207 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> We.. do not have any workarounds for this at all.
#208 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Not for classic
#209 [02:21] <shifty> whats that mean?
#210 [02:21] <shifty> the "!"
#211 [02:21] <auscompgeek> shifty: no idea.
#212 [02:21] <auscompgeek> it rarely ever happens
#213 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> The reason why, is that minecraft classic stores files in %temp%, which is a shortcut for C:\users\username\appdata\local\temp\
#214 [02:21] <shifty> so anything i can do to fix it?
#215 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Now, if your username had a ! at the end, it'll result in: C:\users\username!\appdata\local\temp\
#216 [02:22] <shifty> and its stuffing it all up
#217 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> ! is also a programming symbol, which java can't parse correctly.
#218 [02:22] <shifty> so i delete the ! and win?
#219 [02:22] <auscompgeek> shifty: you can try to do that
#220 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Not that easy.
#221 [02:22] <shifty> i knew it
#222 [02:22] <auscompgeek> but it's complex
#223 [02:22] <auscompgeek> it involves messing around with settings
#224 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> It's rather quite difficult to rename a user profile folder.
#225 [02:22] <shifty> i wouldnt blame you if you dont wanna go there
#226 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Really, the only solution I have for you, shifty, is to make a new windows user account
#227 [02:23] <|Kiikun|> easier to just make a new windows user
#228 [02:23] <shifty> ... well shit that could work i dont have anything seriously missed on here
#229 [02:23] <shifty> pardon i didnt mean to cus
#230 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#231 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead and try it, you can make a new user account through windows' control panel.
#232 [02:23] <|Kiikun|> bad cussing makes aubot angry :D
#233 [02:24] <shifty> so you think i make a new user account then it should work?
#234 [02:25] <shifty> well grey im off to work this out ive been watching minecraft videos on youtube and im addicted
#235 [02:25] <shifty> i went to go try it
#236 [02:25] <shifty> and that happened i was crushed
#237 [02:26] <shifty> thatnks for being patient with a compute illiterate java illiterate attict to a game ive never played
#238 [02:27] <shifty> ill check in soon as i figure out if it works if youre still in here ill let you know
#239 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> It'll work, I'm sure of it.
#240 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> First time I've seen ! break classic though, but it's a rather common issue for beta/premium
#241 [02:29] <shifty> just one more question if you dont mind youve helped enough as it is
#242 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#243 [02:29] <shifty> first off have you seen those yogscast videos?
#244 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> I have not, but they are rather popular
#245 [02:30] <Wug> so the ! bug does affect classic?
#246 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Wug -Apparently so
#247 [02:30] <shifty> well
#248 [02:30] <shifty> in classic
#249 [02:30] <shifty> i can build anything and all the stuff ive seen in the videos
#250 [02:30] <shifty> or is it limited to certain things or what
#251 [02:31] <shifty> i havent played but from watching half the videos i know so much and so little
#252 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> You're not going to have flowing water, crafting, redstone, mobs, or any of the new blocks
#253 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> But most of the classic blocks should be here
#254 [02:31] <shifty> so crafting.. i cant make picks
#255 [02:31] <shifty> or swords
#256 [02:31] <shifty> or anything?
#257 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Right
#258 [02:31] <|Kiikun|> those got added into alpha/beta... after classic
#259 [02:32] <shifty> so what can i do in clasic
#260 [02:32] <|Kiikun|> classic is Creative. you build with infinite blocks
#261 [02:32] <shifty> and if i want to dig a cave its pretty much the old saying pound dirt
#262 [02:32] <|Kiikun|> turns to stonwe really quick... but yes :P
#263 [02:33] <shifty> lol well last one for you besides classic any other free versions?
#264 [02:33] * |Kiikun| thinks yogs is funny... but likes docm77, etho, and static better :P
#264 [02:33] <shifty> otherwise im buying to full version tonight if it works
#265 [02:33] <|Kiikun|> shifty: a timelimited demo of beta 1.5
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#267 [02:34] <shifty> howlong?
#268 [02:34] <|Kiikun|> 90 minutes/world?
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#270 [02:34] <|Kiikun|> or jsut a flat 90 minutes.. not sure
#271 [02:34] <shifty> well im really excited now ive been dying to play for so long i hope this new user account works
#272 [02:35] <shifty> thank you all very much you really helped out
#273 [02:35] <shifty> those yogscast videos just got me they are hilarious and the game looks so much fun
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#275 [02:36] <CooliSushi> So I decided to re buy minecraft and this message keeps coming up "You have entered invalid payment instrument details. Please check and try again."
#276 [02:36] <Wug> CooliSushi: make sure you entered the number correctly
#277 [02:37] <CooliSushi> I tried to re buy it so many times and that message keeps poping up :I
#278 [02:37] <|Kiikun|> CooliSushi: also did you do the host thing i said earlier?
#279 [02:37] <CooliSushi> I'll try some more
#280 [02:37] <Wug> and if you did, then call your card company and yell at them until they buy it for you
#281 [02:37] <CooliSushi> noo
#282 [02:37] <|Kiikun|> you know.. to make sure your actually paying mojang :P
#283 [02:37] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/hosts
#284 [02:37] <CooliSushi> yeah
#285 [02:37] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#286 [02:37] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#287 [02:37] <CooliSushi> I singed in
#288 [02:37] <CooliSushi> said I didn't pay
#289 [02:37] <CooliSushi> the card said that
#290 [02:38] <CooliSushi> So I'm trying to buy it again ._.
#291 [02:38] <CooliSushi> and now there are errors
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#293 [02:41] <CooliSushi> aw come on! you worked the first time...
#294 [02:41] <CooliSushi> this is a pain in my behind.
#295 [02:43] <CooliSushi> Hey |Kiikun|, is there a way I can add my credit card money to a paypal?
#296 [02:44] <CooliSushi> seems like the only choice I have
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#298 [02:44] <|Kiikun|> yes. pay via paypal. or make a paypal account and add it as a payment method
#299 [02:44] <CooliSushi> okay
#300 [02:44] <CooliSushi> thanks
#301 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Is it just me, or is redstone still seriously fubar in 1.0.0
#302 [02:49] <|Kiikun|> how so?
#303 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> R-torches burning out for no apparent reason still
#304 [02:49] <Wug> use repeaters
#305 [02:50] <Wug> more expensive but infinitely more reliable
#306 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#307 [02:50] * GreyVulpine needs not gates
#307 [02:50] <|Kiikun|> um... dont have that issue o.o;
#308 [02:50] <|Kiikun|> they shoudl only burn out when being rapidly switched
#309 [02:51] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: are you accidently self-looping your torch?
#310 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> You know, I think I was
#311 [02:51] <DreamingInsane> Infinite loops! Loops, Loops! Everywhere!
#312 [02:51] <|Kiikun|> :D
#313 [02:52] <Wug> you should make a farm that stacks upward instead of sideways
#314 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> I thought I was being clever, and did two R-torches on a block, thinking to save space
#315 [02:52] <Wug> so that it zigzags
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#317 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Totally forgot that r-stone doesn't like doing that
#318 [02:52] <shifty> grey it worked mate
#319 [02:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#319 [02:52] <shifty> my hero
#320 [02:52] <|Kiikun|> i use two torches on one block in some of my rsnors
#321 [02:53] <shifty> where do i find the trial version?
#322 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#323 [02:53] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#324 [02:53] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#325 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Make sure not to put that one in any folders that end with ! as well :)
#326 [02:53] <shifty> thank you very much
#327 [02:53] <Wug> its only 1.8 but thats still fairly recent
#328 [02:53] <shifty> seriously
#329 [02:53] <shifty> i didnt think anyone would care to help
#330 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> We're a small, but dedicated group of people
#331 [02:54] * Wug level 40 get
#331 [02:54] <shifty> also in classic it was a bit laggy
#332 [02:54] <shifty> is that my computer
#333 [02:54] <shifty> or just classic
#334 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Probably the computer
#335 [02:54] <Wug> shifty: this channel has helped probably 1% of the entire minecraft community
#336 [02:54] <shifty> any simple things to ease the lag?
#337 [02:55] <Wug> or at least paid users
#338 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> heh
#339 [02:55] <Wug> we get a lot more paid users than classic users
#340 [02:55] <shifty> you guys should be paid
#341 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, heh, paid.
#342 [02:55] <shifty> youre better then any tech support ive ever crossed
#343 [02:55] <shifty> lol
#344 [02:55] <Wug> we appreciate the thought
#345 [02:55] <shifty> i know almost blaspheme
#346 [02:56] <shifty> well i would be a paid user
#347 [02:56] <shifty> but i couldnt even get classic to work
#348 [02:56] <shifty> so now im about to buy it
#349 [02:56] <Wug> we knew that the ! issue happened on beta
#350 [02:56] <Wug> but I dont think I've ever recorded an instance of it happening on classic
#351 [02:56] <shifty> how did you know to check that
#352 [02:56] <Wug> its a very old, very well known bug
#353 [02:56] <shifty> ahh
#354 [02:56] <shifty> rodger
#355 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Been here over a year, I can't count how many times I've helped others over beta with that issue
#356 [02:57] <Wug> most of us instinctively ask about that very early on, even if we dont suspect it
#357 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> First time seeing it in classic though
#358 [02:57] <Wug> because the symptoms vary
#359 [02:57] <shifty> like i said god hates me
#360 [02:57] <shifty> you fix it now i have lag
#361 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Back in alpha, input == null was an indicator
#362 [02:57] <Wug> GreyVulpine: its actually, in retrospect, probably not the first time
#363 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> probably
#364 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Now, it's rolled into can't connect to minecraft.net, among other symptoms
#365 [02:58] <Wug> :!
#366 [02:58] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#367 [02:58] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does). Must be run as admin on vista/7.
#368 [02:58] <shifty> ive got excellent internet
#369 [02:58] <shifty> but hav elag
#370 [02:58] <shifty> what could it be?
#371 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> shifty - Old computer?
#372 [02:58] <shifty> no sir
#373 [02:59] <shifty> its about a year or 2 old so i guess in tech years its a dinosaur
#374 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> The majority of lag issues we see, stem from old systems, from insufficient RAM, to an ancient video card, or some other component that's years out of date.
#375 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Or from running java 7.
#376 [03:00] <Wug> ;+ classic/! Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. If you are using minecraft classic, you must create another user account. Ask your computer operator for assistance if need be.;;You MUST NOT include any special characters in the account name.
#377 [03:00] <WugBot> Done.
#378 [03:00] <shifty> ive got 6.yada yada
#379 [03:00] <Wug> what are the yadas
#380 [03:01] <Wug> jerb's in here now?
#381 [03:01] * Wug waves to jerb
#381 [03:02] <shifty> 6.0.290
#382 [03:06] <auscompgeek> hmm.
#383 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you know what, I think I know what's going on with those redstone torches, I've been using /time set..
#384 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Forgot it totally screws with them
#385 [03:07] <auscompgeek> anyone else still experiencing the bug where downward flowing water into water still doesn't spawn water source blocks?
#386 [03:07] <auscompgeek> 11w48a here
#387 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> That's been removed, wasn't it?
#388 [03:07] <auscompgeek> as I've heard
#389 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Was a feature back in 1.9 pre something or other
#390 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> downward flowing water wont spawn source blocks...
#391 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Removed the next prerelease
#392 [03:07] <auscompgeek> |Kiikun|: from the ocean
#393 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> yes. i often mine under the ocean and rely on breaking source water into flowing water :P
#394 [03:08] <auscompgeek> no no
#395 [03:08] <auscompgeek> I get a water bucket from the ocean
#396 [03:09] <auscompgeek> and I should get a water source again like in 1.8.1
#397 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> and it wont reform into source because theres no solid block underneith
#398 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> its been like that for as long as ive played with water
#399 [03:10] <auscompgeek> hm.
#400 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> 2sources adjacent and 1 opaque block under. some caveats are that signs and pressure plates work as the opaque block too.
#401 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> but i dont think grass does
#402 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> erm.. glass
#403 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> grass does <.<
#404 [03:11] <auscompgeek> ofc it does :P
#405 [03:11] * |Kiikun| hasnt tried chests yet.
#405 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> or fences... gates... doors...
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#407 [03:12] * |Kiikun| sees a new Spawn Point series :P "Will Water Generate?
#407 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Still extremely confused about the new redstone bugs...
#408 [03:12] <Wug> ;+ dont/ding It isn't polite to say people's names in IRC unless you need that particular person for a specific reason. People find the notifications their clients give them distracting and productivity decreases.;;Please refrain from calling out to everyone for help.
#409 [03:12] <WugBot> Done.
#410 [03:12] * GreyVulpine checks wiki
#410 [03:12] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: linkie to server?
#411 [03:13] * |Kiikun| can look!
#411 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Hrm, don't know if I have whitelisting privileges.
#412 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> PM me name?
#413 [03:13] <Sennyotai> :P
#414 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Or.. not, um
#415 [03:14] <auscompgeek> what server
#416 [03:17] * GreyVulpine prods kealper
#416 [03:21] <hmw> "when debugging is to remove errors from a program, one has to wonder, what programming is then."
#417 [03:21] <hmw> What new Redstone bugs?
#418 [03:22] <Sennyotai> he keeps using /time... so that might be one issue.
#419 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs#Redstone
#420 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> And my AND gate torches keep burning out
#421 [03:24] <hmw> "When a wire is powered, and another source of power is connected to the wire, the wire power won't be recalculated, blocking the new signal." that seems not like a bug to me, but just normal optimization... true OR something is true, right?
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#423 [03:25] <Sennyotai> i think it might have to do with distance calculations
#424 [03:26] <Sennyotai> though... if im understandign that complaint right... its wrong
#425 [03:26] <hmw> the sentence makes no sense, they obviously meant something else
#426 [03:27] <hmw> but I don't get it...
#427 [03:28] <hmw> ah the 15 meter maximum might be affected
#428 [03:28] <Sennyotai> OOH.. ok yea.. if you have two wires merging
#429 [03:28] <Sennyotai> a new 'closer' power source wont propogate down the line until the old one is removed
#430 [03:28] <hmw> I started to collect the most absurd bugs on my web site... some are truly funny
#431 [03:28] <hmw> yeah, that might be a problem if someone counts on that
#432 [03:28] <Sennyotai> but it has to be wires merging, not new poer applied to the line
#433 [03:30] <hmw> GreyVulpine: AND gate torches? How that? Some feedback loop?
#434 [03:30] <hmw> Redstone is so unreliable, one could make 20 Windows95's of it.
#435 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea, lemme see if I can just capture one part of this
#436 [03:31] <Sennyotai> screenshot! HOOO@!
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#438 [03:35] <hmw> join #smp
#439 [03:37] <hmw> there is a lot of strange terrain details on my map... a lot of straight lines
#440 [03:37] <hmw> Predicting, that Notch will change terrain code sometime in the future again.
#441 [03:37] <Sennyotai> hmw: you happen to be using an old map?
#442 [03:38] <hmw> i just created a new map with 1.0.0
#443 [03:38] <Sennyotai> hmw: screenie?
#444 [03:41] <hmw> http://harald.ist.org/home/zeugs/straight_lines.png
#445 [03:43] <hmw> that crater would have been awesome
#446 [03:43] <Sennyotai> that looks like a 1.9 map with 1.0.0 edges to me.
#447 [03:43] <hmw> but it is a pure 1.0.0 map
#448 [03:44] <Wug> you mustve had another crashes map at one point
#449 [03:44] <Wug> did you lose a map randomly one day?
#450 [03:44] <hmw> nope
#451 [03:44] <Wug> well thats definitely a terrain mismatch
#452 [03:44] <hmw> i had only this "communication error" on login, no other crashes at all.
#453 [03:44] <Wug> no idea how you got it but thats what it is
#454 [03:44] <hmw> yeah, i can see that
#455 [03:45] <hmw> so you are saying, you never had something like this in 1.0.0 maps?
#456 [03:45] <Sennyotai> hmw: take the seed and try regening the map under a new name?
#457 [03:45] <hmw> interesting idea, i'll try
#458 [03:45] <Wug> or delete it and regen it that way
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#460 [03:46] <Wug> I guarantee that that will not be there
#461 [03:46] <Wug> though the map might be totally different
#462 [03:46] <hmw> you are still believeing, i have had a crash or something
#463 [03:46] <Sennyotai> i have a feeling that the seed changed.. because the edges are ocean biome.
#464 [03:46] <Wug> it doesnt have to have been recent
#465 [03:46] <Wug> coulda been ages ago
#466 [03:46] <hmw> that map is 7 days old
#467 [03:46] <hmw> i am the only user
#468 [03:46] <Wug> the crash* couldve been ages ago
#469 [03:47] <hmw> everything was downloaded anew
#470 [03:47] <Wug> whatever you say bro
#471 [03:47] <Wug> regen the map
#472 [03:47] <Wug> I'd bet $1000 it wont be there again
#473 [03:47] <hmw> I will tell you, if it does something interesting
#474 [03:49] <hmw> I also downloaded server 1.0.1, which should remove that "communication error"... now I have them all the time... that IS weird, alright.
#475 [03:49] <Wug> it only fixes it on that server
#476 [03:49] <Sennyotai> hmw: im not sure the exe was updated. the jar was definately
#477 [03:49] <hmw> it says 1.0.1
#478 [03:49] <Wug> and it wasnt supposed to fix the communication error
#479 [03:49] <hmw> and i am using Ubuntu/Jar
#480 [03:49] <Wug> it was supposed to fix "server responded with an invalid key"
#481 [03:50] <hmw> oh yes, just saw it... mixed that up
#482 [03:56] <Wug> http://wug.me/minecraft/2011-12-07_03.53.12.png
#483 [03:57] <Sennyotai> your spiders have escaped their spawnertrap
#484 [03:57] <Wug> they have learned ... arachnokenesis
#485 [03:57] <hmw> wow
#486 [03:57] <Wug> they're levitating through the walls
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#488 [03:57] <Wug> theyre trapped and snap back inside it after a few seconds but
#489 [03:58] <Wug> there are waaaaay to many spiders in that 2x3x2 space :P
#490 [03:58] <Wug> too*
#491 [03:58] <Sennyotai> so kill em already!
#492 [03:58] <Wug> If I had to guess I'd say theres at least 75
#493 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> damn 60 second video being 90 megs..
#494 [04:00] * GreyVulpine needs better video capture
#494 [04:00] * Sennyotai uses editing softy to shrink it
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#495 [04:02] <Wug> I got an entire stack of string and used an entire stown sword
#496 [04:02] <Wug> I also grew a whole level
#497 [04:02] <Wug> which is really hard when you're level 43
#498 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, here's one bug
#499 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaBkc24MQDI
#500 [04:04] <hmw> http://harald.ist.org/home/zeugs/no_straight_lines.png - compare the shape of that island, how is that possible? The "bad" terrain was created when I flew around today to enlarge the map, at least this section
#501 [04:04] <hmw> http://harald.ist.org/home/zeugs/no_straight_lines.png - compare the shape of that island, how is that possible? The "bad" terrain was created when I flew around today to enlarge the map, at least this section
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#503 [04:04] <Wug> GreyVulpine: huh
#504 [04:05] <hmw> ah damn the old image doesnt show it fully
#505 [04:05] <Wug> I'm telling you
#506 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Yeah, I have no idea. The AND gate I have exhibits the same behavior
#507 [04:05] <Sennyotai> GreyBot: huh....
#508 [04:05] <Wug> it was leftover old chunks
#509 [04:05] <Wug> hmw: ^
#510 [04:05] <hmw> left over from what? it was a fresh 1.0.0 map
#511 [04:06] <Wug> from whatever map you had before that had the exact same name
#512 [04:06] <hmw> nope, i tell you, that is not the case, i am 100% sure
#513 [04:06] <Wug> then why is it different
#514 [04:06] <Wug> you could generate that map 1000 more times and it would look exactly the same as it did the second time
#515 [04:06] <hmw> that is the question. it CAN NOT have been an old map
#516 [04:07] <Wug> the terrain generator is deterministic
#517 [04:07] <Wug> you deleted your saves folder?
#518 [04:07] <hmw> i wrote similar generators my self quite a lot of times, so I understand what you mean
#519 [04:07] <Sennyotai> GreyVulpine: hmmm... i think thats doign that because the repeater isnt causing a block update omn the torch.
#520 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#521 [04:07] <hmw> Even the OS was fresh, man!
#522 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Works fine elsewhere.
#523 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> SP map, another server..
#524 [04:07] <Sennyotai> GreyVulpine: just that one spot on smp?
#525 [04:08] <Wug> well it is what it is
#526 [04:08] <Wug> however it got there
#527 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> As I'm talking to you, the circuit just decided to work again
#528 [04:08] <Sennyotai> ... lol
#529 [04:08] <Sennyotai> smp lag?
#530 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> I have no blasted clue
#531 [04:08] <Wug> smp + redstone + /time == ???
#532 [04:08] <hmw> Wug: == Wormhole.
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#534 [04:09] <Sennyotai> GreyVulpine: also, protip, redstone wire up a block and strait into the top piston powers block and bottom piston too :P
#535 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, even the AND gate fixed itself. Freakin crap
#536 [04:09] * GreyVulpine kicks Redstone
#536 [04:09] <Sennyotai> hmw: no thats 4 pistons pishign into the same spot
#537 [04:09] <hmw> there is some counters on certain redstone elements, and when you reset time, these counters no longer match system time
#538 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice.
#539 [04:09] <Wug> hullo Dragonryan
#540 [04:09] <hmw> Sennyotai: that would be a Black Hole
#541 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched redstone since 1.4-1.5 ish.
#542 [04:10] <Sennyotai> hmw: no thats 6 pistons :P
#543 [04:10] <Dragonryan> I cant get minecraft to work. can anyone help me?
#544 [04:10] <hmw> lol
#545 [04:10] <Wug> :ww > Dragonryan
#546 [04:10] <WugBot> Dragonryan: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#547 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> This is the first time I've actually had free time to play with pistons and the new stuff
#548 [04:10] <Wug> we're teaching the bot
#549 [04:10] <Wug> \o/
#550 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh, that's a much more efficient design, thanks
#551 [04:11] <Wug> guys minecraft is so much fun
#552 [04:11] <Wug> I feel like I'm a year ago
#553 [04:11] <Sennyotai> i like doing 2x2 pistons with diagnal blocks and redstone, then just repoeater into a block and it powers it all
#554 [04:11] <Dragonryan> Every time I try to open minecraft it opens up a little and then it just bugs out and then i get a weird text document saying somekind of error has happend.
#555 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Sennyotai - Can you connect to the server now?
#556 [04:11] <Wug> Dragonryan: can you pastebin the error message
#557 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Wondering if I added you correctly.
#558 [04:11] <Dragonryan> yes
#559 [04:12] <hmw> Wug: I went through the Nether and exited it at quite some distance in the Overworld, had to create new terrain on my way back (through Overworld)... Usually I am not so fast with claiming to have found a bug, but this is Minecraft and I am _really_ sure that this server wass a clean
#560 [04:12] <Wug> GreyVulpine: can I join as well then
#561 [04:12] <hmw> a clean setup and no crashes happened... perhaps I got the generator confused by this "Nehter-Jump"?
#562 [04:12] <Wug> hmw: despite what you may think
#563 [04:13] <Wug> I have seen this happen a zillion times
#564 [04:13] <Dragonryan> no i cannot pastbin the document
#565 [04:13] <Wug> its always some sort of damage that causes the seed to be lost
#566 [04:13] <hmw> I know, a friend refuses to restart his world... well... I hate such map errors, so I wouldn't continue on an incomaptible terrain
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#568 [04:13] <Wug> which in ssp will cause the world to disappear from the list
#569 [04:13] <Wug> Dragonryan: why not
#570 [04:13] <Dragonryan> I do not know
#571 [04:14] <Wug> can you copy and paste it
#572 [04:14] <Dragonryan> no
#573 [04:14] <hmw> I can't stop thinking about what might have caused the damage, but I can't seem to find anything... this annoys me.
#574 [04:14] <Wug> Dragonryan: ugh
#575 [04:14] <Wug> what does it say then
#576 [04:15] <hmw> Dragonryan: you might upload a screen shot on http://imagebin.org/
#577 [04:16] <hmw> Wug: Does it matter, that I initially did NOT define a seed?
#578 [04:16] <Wug> nope
#579 [04:16] <hmw> guess not :(
#580 [04:18] <Dragonryan> I think my computer is too old to run minecraft. Im giving up. thank you for all your help
#581 [04:18] <hmw> OpenJDK instead of Sun's?
#582 [04:18] <Wug> .....
#583 [04:19] <Wug> my computer has an error while playing minecraft
#584 [04:19] <Wug> but I'm not going to tell you what it is
#585 [04:19] <Wug> also, I'm not asking for help, I just thought I'd let you know. bye
#586 [04:19] <Wug> <endquote?
#587 [04:19] <hmw> Wug: Not a problem, we are all pychics here. *smirks*
#588 [04:19] * Wug is a practiced haxxomancer
#588 [04:20] <hmw> We recommend you delete fucking everything, get rid of that evil time stealing computer and go outside play with the other kids in the sand box instead *g* IRL Minecraft
#589 [04:20] * AuBot kicked hmw from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mw :Please keep it civil.)
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#591 [04:21] <hmw> We recommend you delete f****** everything, get rid of that evil time stealing computer and go outside play with the other kids in the sand box instead *g* IRL Minecraft
#592 [04:24] <hmw> ping
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#594 [04:25] <Wug> ack
#595 [04:25] <hmw> thx
#596 [04:25] <hmw> hey, an UO fan? Hi Blackthorne
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#602 [04:42] <guacamole> need help: Trying to play I get this message: An error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occurred (4). Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack. Java has been updated.
#603 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Check your security software, it's likely blocking lwjgl because of a false positive
#604 [04:43] <guacamole> thanks, will do!
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#606 [04:50] <Wug> apocalypse_r
#607 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Done
#608 [04:51] <Wug> huh
#609 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Erm, you connected with Wugbot
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#611 [04:55] <montezuma> Hello, I'm having a problem that when I join a server, it comes up as a "protocol error". Is there any way to fix this?
#612 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> What is the full error?
#613 [04:59] <montezuma> It just reads as "protocol error"
#614 [04:59] <montezuma> "disconnected by server: protocol error"
#615 [04:59] <montezuma> Thank you for your help.
#616 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Using an old minecraft client?
#617 [05:01] <montezuma> I'm completely updated?
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#620 [05:04] <montezuma> I'm not sure how I should fix this problem.
#621 [05:04] <montezuma> I've tried portforwarding on two seperate servers.
#622 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the server yourself?
#623 [05:07] <montezuma> No I'm not, a friend is.
#624 [05:08] <montezuma> I'm just trying to join.
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#626 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Ask if he's using the server files from http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list or http://www.minecraft.net/download
#627 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> More specifically, minecraft-server or minecraft_server
#628 [05:09] <hmw> Could be, that your friend hasn't updated his server and your client is too "modern"?
#629 [05:09] <montezuma> I was quite sure it's up to date.
#630 [05:09] <montezuma> He's not using a classic server.
#631 [05:10] <hmw> others can connect?
#632 [05:10] <montezuma> No it's definately the second one.
#633 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Protocol errors usually arise from some client/server mismatch.
#634 [05:10] <montezuma> Oh okay.
#635 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Whether he's using an outdated modded server, or your client is somehow modded.
#636 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Or he's got some sort of modded content he's plugged into his server that you don't have
#637 [05:11] <montezuma> I'm using a Thompson thomson tg782t router, if that's useful at all.
#638 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't matter at all, since you're not the one running the server
#639 [05:12] <hmw> montezuma: can other players connect to that server? (not the owner, but different ones)
#640 [05:12] <montezuma> Yes I believe so.l
#641 [05:12] <montezuma> ALthough there is another person who cannot connect to it.
#642 [05:12] <montezuma> So it definately isn't a portforwarding issue?
#643 [05:13] <montezuma> Thanks for your help btw.
#644 [05:13] <hmw> if others CAN connect, it is not a port forward issue
#645 [05:13] <montezuma> But I'm not the one hosting, doesn't that mean it comes down to me?
#646 [05:13] <hmw> Your computer wouldnt notice the port forward at all
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#648 [05:15] <montezuma> Oh okay.
#649 [05:15] <montezuma> So is it a file mismatch or something?
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#651 [05:18] <hmw> Hard to tell. Delete and redownload the software, make sure you use the same stuff as one of those players, who can connect. Watch out for correct version numbers, if installing mods.
#652 [05:18] <hmw> montezuma: What OS do you use?
#653 [05:20] <montezuma> Win7.
#654 [05:21] <hmw> type %appdata% into your start menu command box, then delete the folder .minecraft in order to force a redownload of the game. You should also check, if your Java is up to date
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#656 [05:23] <nert> Wouldn't it be enough to force an update over the launcher?
#657 [05:23] <montezuma> Tried that nert, didn't work.
#658 [05:23] <nert> I see.
#659 [05:23] <hmw> well, perhaps... but we want to be 100% sure
#660 [05:24] <nert> Don't forget to save your games before deleting .minecraft though. :-)
#661 [05:24] <montezuma> Trying that now hmw
#662 [05:24] <hmw> montezuma: see nert's last warning
#663 [05:24] <nert> Or even better: move .minecraft to your desktop instead of deleting it.
#664 [05:25] <montezuma> reupdating after redownloading.
#665 [05:25] <montezuma> It's fine, hadn't done anything that interesting.
#666 [05:27] <montezuma> Didn't work.
#667 [05:27] <montezuma> Perhaps I'll update Java.
#668 [05:28] <nert> Which version do you have?
#669 [05:28] <nert> What's the problem by the way? :D
#670 [05:29] <hmw> "protocol error", nert
#671 [05:30] <nert> When connecting to a server?
#672 [05:30] <hmw> yes
#673 [05:30] <nert> So either the Server uses an arcane Version (e.g. outdated) OR you are having networking/firewalling troubles.
#674 [05:31] <nert> Something is scrambling the protocol. Usually that's related to networking configurations or firewalls.
#675 [05:31] <hmw> hmm... some packet inspection running amok? I never saw such a thing personally, but it might be
#676 [05:31] <nert> Is that happening to all servers you try to connect to?
#677 [05:32] <hmw> i am not montezuma, i just answered your question about what was going on ;-)
#678 [05:32] <nert> %-)
#679 [05:32] <nert> Right.
#680 [05:33] <Cryophile> :P
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#682 [05:33] <nert> Anyway, I think that this is most likely related to networking instead of the installation of the game.
#683 [05:34] <montezuma> Sorry I had to cut out.
#684 [05:34] <hmw> montezuma: I assumed, you can connect to other servers?
#685 [05:34] <montezuma> Java wanted to close iexplore.
#686 [05:34] <montezuma> I can connect to classic ones when in the browser.
#687 [05:34] <montezuma> Like the ones listen on the minecraft site that you click on.
#688 [05:35] <nert> But to 1.0 ones from the client?
#689 [05:35] <hmw> nert: see, we ran out of ideas, so we tried reinstall
#690 [05:35] <montezuma> java reinstall didn't help.
#691 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - You're playing on premium, right?
#692 [05:36] <montezuma> Of course.
#693 [05:36] <hmw> if he can play classic servers, firewall would not likely block "normal" servers
#694 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Could you attempt to connect to s.nerd.nu? See if you get any errors?
#695 [05:36] <montezuma> Not a single error, connected perfectly.
#696 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Then your friend is doing something strange with his server
#697 [05:37] <nert> I'd assume so.
#698 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> have him redownload minecraft_server from minecraft.net/download, set it up in a new directory
#699 [05:37] <nert> Does minecrash.com work?
#700 [05:37] <hmw> montezuma: find out, if and which mods are installed on that server
#701 [05:37] <montezuma> minecrash.com says connection refused.
#702 [05:38] <nert> Ah. Whitelisting. Right.
#703 [05:38] <nert> But at least not protocol error.
#704 [05:38] <montezuma> Exactly right.
#705 [05:38] <nert> I second GreyVulpine: the server is strange.
#706 [05:38] <hmw> Then I third this assumption.
#707 [05:39] <nert> \o/
#708 [05:39] <montezuma> originalcontent.no-ip.org
#709 [05:39] <montezuma> You guys try?
#710 [05:39] <montezuma> Be inconspicuous though, he'll rage for me giving it out.
#711 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> !check originalcontent.no-ip.org
#712 [05:40] <nert> Broken for me.
#713 [05:40] <hmw> I also get "protocol error"
#714 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> me as well
#715 [05:40] <hmw> perhaps a missing client side mod, that is required
#716 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> That's what I'm thinking
#717 [05:40] <nert> It's a dyndns IP, so I take it's running in a home LAN.
#718 [05:40] <montezuma> It is.
#719 [05:40] <nert> Being piped through a router.
#720 [05:41] <montezuma> You guys are legendary.
#721 [05:41] <nert> I guess the router is scrambling the traffic.
#722 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Nope.. it's a mod. gotta be
#723 [05:41] <hmw> nert: if others CAN connect, it is likely a mod
#724 [05:41] <nert> Agreed.
#725 [05:41] <montezuma> So I should check that out?
#726 [05:42] <hmw> montezuma: you should find out, what mods are installed on the server, and perhaps which mods are required for your client to play on that server
#727 [05:42] <montezuma> Okay, well I've spoken to him about the issue and he never mention a mod.
#728 [05:42] <hmw> actually the other way around: you need to install mods in your client, i guess
#729 [05:42] <montezuma> He must be unintelligent if he forgot about that.
#730 [05:43] <hmw> it would be not so clever to forget about something like that *g*
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#732 [05:43] <montezuma> Could it be anything else before I go?
#733 [05:43] <hmw> tell us the exact software, your firend is using. Which Server (vanilla, Bukkit, whatever), version number?
#734 [05:45] <montezuma> I've no way of contacting him at the moment.
#735 [05:46] <hmw> montezuma: protocol errors mean, that client and server talk different "languages". This usually is due to the client being not the same version as the server. Your friend probably uses a special server (Similar to Bukkit, which is a mod basically) or specific mods that affect the protocol.
#736 [05:46] <hmw> It also might be, that his router is insane.
#737 [05:46] <hmw> or even has crashed and your friend didnt reboot it yet
#738 [05:46] <Wug> http://wug.me/minecraft/2011-12-07_05.28.36.png
#739 [05:46] <Wug> I almost crashed the server by being afk :o
#740 [05:47] <montezuma> Hahaha.
#741 [05:47] <montezuma> There is 2 people on it though?
#742 [05:47] <hmw> OMG LOL
#743 [05:47] <Wug> nope, just me
#744 [05:47] <Wug> I estimate that there were around 300 spiders
#745 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> Good god Wug
#746 [05:47] <hmw> montezuma: that information might be bogus
#747 [05:47] <Wug> it took 4 stone swords and 1/4 of a bow to kill them all
#748 [05:48] <montezuma> Oh okay.
#749 [05:49] <hmw> Wug: you should install that rope mod now
#750 [05:52] <montezuma> Well thanks alot guys.
#751 [05:52] <montezuma> Bye.
#752 [05:52] <montezuma> I really appreciate it.,
#753 [05:55] <nert> Wug: Nice. Must've created a lot of thread.
#754 [05:55] <hmw> something must have happened to my map, in the nether (of my "straight lines" map) there is only one half of the portal, one portion of the world appears to be reset
#755 [05:55] <hmw> it happened after excessively enlarging the map through flying around.
#756 [05:56] <hmw> perhaps my HD is dying
#757 [05:58] <nert> Or the filesystem doing strange things because it can't keep up with the number of level files.
#758 [05:58] <hmw> hmm... ext3?
#759 [05:58] <nert> Ah, alright.
#760 [05:58] <nert> That should be able to cope. ;-)
#761 [05:59] <hmw> wow... i think i managed to copy my base to the new "good" map... took me only 2 hours
#762 [06:00] <hmw> hopefully the nether files, i just copied, are ok
#763 [06:01] <hmw> lost my inventory, though :-(
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#766 [06:24] <hmw> I just accidentially made an archive of my world folder, but the server was still running. Do you think it is safe to assume, all files were released when I logged out before compressing?
#767 [06:25] <Wug> probably not
#768 [06:25] <nert> It's hard to say.
#769 [06:25] <Wug> if its a backup you should stop the server and resave it
#770 [06:26] <nert> Or just stop saving.
#771 [06:26] <Wug> that doesnt always work properly
#772 [06:26] <Wug> and some things dont get saves
#773 [06:27] <nert> The way I did it to try to enforce consistent snapshots without having to stop the server was to stop saving, enforcing a one-time save, archive, then turn saving back on.
#774 [06:27] <nert> I never had a problem with this approach.
#775 [06:27] <nert> Then again I don't know if save-all really always saved "all". ;-)
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#778 [06:37] <GROMOR_RUS> who can help me to open port
#779 [06:38] <GROMOR_RUS> 4 server
#780 [06:38] <GROMOR_RUS> 4 server
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#783 [06:48] <hmw> ic. was just wondering
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#787 [07:15] <jim> i need help with my video card error
#788 [07:15] <jim> i need update it
#789 [07:16] <jim> how?
#790 [07:17] <nert> In what way is that related to minecraft?
#791 [07:17] <jim> because it is effecting my minecraft
#792 [07:18] <jim> it says error
#793 [07:19] <jim> i need help udating it
#794 [07:19] <jim> updating
#795 [07:20] <nert> First thing to do: go to the homepage of your video card vendor and search for drivers there.
#796 [07:20] <nert> If it's an NVIDIA card, go to nvidia.com
#797 [07:20] <jim> ok dell.com
#798 [07:21] <jim> well its a dell card produced by dell
#799 [07:22] <nert> Dell usually does not produce own graphics chips. Only full systems.
#800 [07:23] <jim> o ok
#801 [07:23] <jim> how can i figure out what card it is
#802 [07:26] <jim> How can i figure out what card it is? nert
#803 [07:26] <nert> That should be in the device manager.
#804 [07:26] <nert> Assuming that you use windows.
#805 [07:26] <jim> yep
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#807 [07:28] <jim> where is the device maganger is it in internet options or in the control panel? nert
#808 [07:29] <nert> I don't use windows, hence I can not tell you about this in detail.
#809 [07:29] <nert> My guess is control panel.
#810 [07:30] <jim> ok thanks
#811 [07:30] <nert> http://support.dell.com/support/index.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs might, on the other hand, be a good place to start anyway.
#812 [07:30] <nert> Since it allows you to enter the id of your system and will offer you fitting downloads.
#813 [07:31] <jim> yes when i checked the website i couldnt find the proper update and download
#814 [07:32] <jim> i will see you later i have to get off the computer i will be back on a 300 american time
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#823 [08:36] <patrickson99> hi all i just bought minecraft, but i have a question----
#824 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#825 [08:36] <patrickson99> thank you
#826 [08:36] <patrickson99> so it said that I ll be able to download and run without internet connection
#827 [08:37] <patrickson99> but i could only dl that small launcher....
#828 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> You need an internet connection to download the files. Only after you've downloaded the files, can you launch minecraft offline without a connection
#829 [08:37] <patrickson99> from the same launcher?
#830 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes. The launcher downloads additional files upon a successful login
#831 [08:38] <patrickson99> I see. I used it just now and I could play with it while online. So i suppose it downloaded the necessary parts
#832 [08:38] <patrickson99> does it mean I can now run it offline?
#833 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#834 [08:38] <patrickson99> all right, thank you very much
#835 [08:39] <patrickson99> I will try it right now
#836 [08:39] <patrickson99> thank you for the prompt and patient help!
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#839 [08:42] <Patrickson99> hello again
#840 [08:43] <GuruGuy00> how can i find what email address my account is linked to
#841 [08:43] <Patrickson99> dunno, i m here for answers as well....
#842 [08:44] <GuruGuy00> whats your question
#843 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> GuruGuy00 - You can get a partial address by logging into your account and heading to your profile page at minecraft.net
#844 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> For security reasons, the full email address cannot be given out
#845 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Patrickson99 - Something else I can help you with?
#846 [08:45] <Patrickson99> yes, thank you---- I tried the launcher offline as you said
#847 [08:45] <Patrickson99> but all it says is is to log in--
#848 [08:45] <Patrickson99> which I obviously cannot do if i m offline
#849 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> You still can, it'll return back that it can't contact the login server. Only then, will the Play offline button light up
#850 [08:46] <GuruGuy00> well that in lies the real problem, my wife forget her password, and we hit the resend password word and never got an email so just trying to see what email address it is
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#852 [08:47] <AmitSs> hallo
#853 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> GuruGuy00 - Sorry, we're not Mojang, and can't help with account issues like that.
#854 [08:47] <GuruGuy00> do you know the best way to reach them?
#855 [08:48] <AmitSs> i need a technical help
#856 [08:48] <AmitSs> the game is not openning
#857 [08:48] <AmitSs> i download the minecraft.exe and i try to open it and its not run
#858 [08:48] <AmitSs> not open any window or error
#859 [08:48] <AmitSs> just dont work
#860 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> GuruGuy00 - I'll PM you
#861 [08:49] <AmitSs> someone can help me?
#862 [08:49] <GuruGuy00> thanks
#863 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> GuruGuy00 - Send an email to daniel@mojang.com -- he's Mojang's business director, and should be able to get you straightened out.
#864 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> or, bleh.
#865 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - Has it ever worked before?
#866 [08:50] <AmitSs> yes
#867 [08:50] <GuruGuy00> thanks again!
#868 [08:50] <AmitSs> i used to play then i stop for few days
#869 [08:50] <Patrickson99> Thank you Vulpine, it is working now. I m sorry for troubling you with this. I should have found it out by myself too.
#870 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Patrickson99 - No worries.
#871 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - What operating system are you on?
#872 [08:50] <AmitSs> windows 7
#873 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - Could you attempt to run minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#874 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> If minecraft doesn't run, those instructions will launch minecraft in a cmd prompt window, showing any errors
#875 [08:51] <AmitSs> ok
#876 [08:51] <AmitSs> ill try
#877 [08:51] <AmitSs> im here for now
#878 [08:54] <AmitSs> ohhhh wooowwww thank you very much
#879 [08:54] <AmitSs> thanks
#880 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Erm, did you get an error?
#881 [08:55] <AmitSs> its work
#882 [08:55] <AmitSs> the game is running
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#884 [08:55] <AmitSs> but
#885 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> That, wasn't meant to work, but uh..
#886 [08:55] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#887 [08:55] <AmitSs> yes
#888 [08:55] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#889 [08:55] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#890 [08:55] <AmitSs> i understand
#891 [08:55] <AmitSs> i understand
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#893 [08:55] <AmitSs> so now what i do?
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#895 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - Really, the only thing that file did differently, was launch minecraft with reduced memory requirements
#896 [08:55] <AmitSs> in the cmd i saw some errors
#897 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> What errors?
#898 [08:56] <mib_rmggiu> hello, i have a question: Why cant I pay by paypal?
#899 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_rmggiu - You should be able to
#900 [08:56] <mib_rmggiu> i am not
#901 [08:56] <mib_rmggiu> i chose it
#902 [08:56] <mib_rmggiu> but then, at the end
#903 [08:56] <mib_rmggiu> the system tells me their is a prob
#904 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_rmggiu - That'll be something you'll need to take up with either your bank/credit card, or paypal.
#905 [08:57] <AmitSs> the ones that look like that "at net.minecraft.launcherFrame.main<LauncherFrame.java:158>
#906 [08:57] <AmitSs> these are error?
#907 [08:57] <mib_rmggiu> their is, my bank card
#908 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - Yeah, could you copy everything in there? Right click, choose 'mark', then click and drag a box around everything in the window. Paste it at www.pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL
#909 [08:58] <mib_rmggiu> by direct debit
#910 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_rmggiu - Then you'll need to call up your bank and see what's happening
#911 [08:58] <mib_rmggiu> okay.
#912 [08:58] <mib_rmggiu> or maybe can i pay by paysafe?
#913 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, we're just community-run support here. We're not Mojang staff.
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#915 [09:00] <mib_rmggiu> ok
#916 [09:00] <AmitSs> i sent it to you
#917 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Oh, hmm. You said minecraft was working?
#918 [09:01] <AmitSs> used to
#919 [09:01] <AmitSs> yes
#920 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Right now, does minecraft work with the .bat file you made?
#921 [09:02] <AmitSs> yes
#922 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> Then that error's nothing to be concerned about.
#923 [09:03] <AmitSs> so what should i do?
#924 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> The real problem lies in how much RAM or memory is on your computer. The minecraft.exe launches minecraft with a gig of RAM allocated. The .bat file, only reserves 256 megs of RAM, significiantly smaller
#925 [09:03] <AmitSs> play only in the bat file?
#926 [09:03] <AmitSs> i got 2gb
#927 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> Then look at any other programs you have open, close down any unnecessary programs you don't need
#928 [09:04] <GreyVulpine> Something on your computer, some open program, is sucking all the free RAM you have on the computer, which is why minecraft wasn't launching correctly
#929 [09:04] <AmitSs> ok
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#931 [09:14] <napoleon> j'ai acheter minecraft par carte bleu (dimanche) j'arrive pas a me connnecter en ligne !
#932 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Désolé, mais parlez-vous anglais?
#933 [09:16] <napoleon> no french
#934 [09:16] <AmitSs> Grey
#935 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#936 [09:17] <AmitSs> i looked for programs are working and taking CPU
#937 [09:17] <AmitSs> but
#938 [09:17] <AmitSs> all are off and still doesent work
#939 [09:17] <napoleon> quelqu'un peut m'aider svp merci
#940 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> AmitSs - You can try a fresh reboot, try minecraft straight afterwards.
#941 [09:17] <AmitSs> and before that happend i could play minecraft with other game
#942 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, you can either just try launching minecraft with the .bat file, until you can purchase more RAM for your system
#943 [09:18] <AmitSs> what is straight afterwards?
#944 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Reboot your computer, then try minecraft again
#945 [09:18] <AmitSs> ok
#946 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> napoleon - Désolé, mais mon français n'est pas bon
#947 [09:20] <napoleon> je suis francais et je ne parle pas anglais
#948 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Nous parlons principalement en anglais ici...
#949 [09:21] <napoleon> ha ok
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#951 [09:33] <andrewxios> minecraft is a cpu, ram hog xD
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#953 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> More RAM/Vid card, than CPU
#954 [09:34] <andrewxios> well my video cards temp is always low when i play mc but my cpu is often 100% and not enough ram even i set it to 4 gb
#955 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#956 [09:35] <andrewxios> some seeds seem to lag as hell when others wont
#957 [09:38] <andrewxios> thats actually paradox because java is known to have a very good memory management xD
#958 [09:38] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#959 [09:48] <rymate1234> LOL
#960 [09:48] <rymate1234> JAVA
#961 [09:48] <rymate1234> GOOD MEMORY MANAGEMENT?
#962 [09:49] <rymate1234> WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON ANDRWEXIOS
#963 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps there buddy.
#964 [09:49] <rymate1234> *ANDREWXIOS
#965 [09:49] <rymate1234> oops
#966 [09:49] <rymate1234> xD
#967 [09:50] <andrewxios> wow xD
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#976 [10:40] <AndreKim> hi guys
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#979 [10:42] <hexio> hi
#980 [10:42] <hexio> i have a question
#981 [10:42] <hexio> minecraft account e-mail....
#982 [10:42] <hexio> sorry im korean
#983 [10:42] <mib_vesxqm> I am a mom that is considering getting this game for 11 yo. what requirements are needed in my computer?
#984 [10:43] <hexio> i cant speak English
#985 [10:43] <mib_vesxqm> so how do we communicate?
#986 [10:43] <hexio> hey... i have question
#987 [10:43] <hexio> help me
#988 [10:43] <hexio> help me~ T.T
#989 [10:44] <hexio> help me
#990 [10:44] <hexio> i have a question
#991 [10:44] <mib_vesxqm> Oh!aubot is going to answer the question... ?
#992 [10:44] <hexio> ?
#993 [10:45] <hexio> i'm korean
#994 [10:45] <hexio> i can't speak,read
#995 [10:45] <hexio> please help me
#996 [10:45] <WugBot> hexio: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#997 [10:45] <hexio> ok
#998 [10:45] <hexio> thank
#999 [10:45] <hexio> my minecraft account
#1000 [10:45] <hexio> password
#1001 [10:45] <hexio> lose..
#1002 [10:45] <mib_vesxqm> My question is what are the space requriements for the computer?
#1003 [10:46] <hexio> i forget my password..
#1004 [10:47] <hexio> how to find my minecraft account password
#1005 [10:47] <hexio> but my e-mail is not use.. e-mail account is deleted
#1006 [10:48] <hexio> #help
#1007 [10:48] <mib_vesxqm> no acknowledgement of my question... waited more than enough time. gone.
#1008 [10:49] <AG_Clinton> Without your email you're in trouble.
#1009 [10:49] <hexio> i know
#1010 [10:49] <hexio> but i bought minecraft account VISA card
#1011 [10:50] <AG_Clinton> You can try contacting Mojang.
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#1013 [10:50] <hexio> how to contacting Mojang
#1014 [10:50] <hexio> how to contact..
#1015 [10:50] <hexio> sorry i cant speak English
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#1017 [10:52] <hexio> please help me
#1018 [10:52] <WugBot> hexio: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1019 [10:52] <hexio> please help me
#1020 [10:52] <WugBot> hexio: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1021 [10:52] <hexio> bot...
#1022 [10:52] <hexio> shit
#1023 [10:52] <hexio> kkkk
#1024 [10:53] <hexio> how to find my password without E-mail~?
#1025 [10:53] <hexio> how to find my password without E-mail~?
#1026 [10:53] <hexio> how to find my password without E-mail~?
#1027 [10:53] <hexio> how to find my password without E-mail~?
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#1029 [10:54] <hexio> hi
#1030 [10:54] <hexio> 마갤러
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#1032 [10:54] <hexio> how to find my password without E-mail~?
#1033 [10:58] <Boreeas> hexio:
#1034 [10:58] <hexio> yes
#1035 [10:58] <Boreeas> hexio: You can't
#1036 [10:59] <hexio> why..
#1037 [10:59] <Boreeas> hexio: Because you can't view your password over the internet
#1038 [10:59] <Boreeas> hexio: If you forgot your's though, you can request a new one, though
#1039 [10:59] <hexio> umm
#1040 [10:59] <hexio> wait
#1041 [10:59] <hexio> i can't speak English
#1042 [11:00] <hexio> ah;;
#1043 [11:00] <hexio> i forget my password
#1044 [11:00] <Boreeas> hexio: Click here http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1045 [11:00] <hexio> but
#1046 [11:00] <Boreeas> hexio: This will send a new password to your e-mail
#1047 [11:00] <hexio> my E-mail
#1048 [11:01] <hexio> drop out
#1049 [11:01] <liz> hexio: We can't help you with that
#1050 [11:01] <liz> You need to contact mojang directly
#1051 [11:01] <hexio> email account not exist
#1052 [11:01] <liz> support@mojang.com
#1053 [11:01] <Boreeas> ^
#1054 [11:01] <hexio> thank you
#1055 [11:01] <Boreeas> hexio: No e-mail, no luck
#1056 [11:02] <hexio> VISA card...
#1057 [11:02] <Boreeas> hexio: Doesn't matter, e-mail mojang. We cannot help you any further here.
#1058 [11:03] <hexio> ok.. thank you ^^
#1059 [11:03] <hexio> ok.. thank you ^^
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#1063 [11:09] <Cial> Someone is messaging me with account issues and I cant find a damn email to give him to contact mojang with
#1064 [11:10] <hexio> i sent email to Mojang
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#1066 [11:11] <Cial> you did? ok good saves me the headach of trying to find the email
#1067 [11:11] <hexio> sorry and thank you
#1068 [11:11] <hexio> sorry and thank you
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#1073 [11:17] <matt02019801> when i run minecraft, it either dosen't load, or when it does, i move a couple blocks and then it crashes, do you know what is causing the problem?
#1074 [11:19] <zeroLimit15> Hello, after many tests and help from friends minecraft players, I can't download the full game from your web site. I have bought your game consequently help me please. The problem is that after the "logging in", the download finished (too much fast I feel) but the window is closing and nothing else... (PS : the file ".minecraft" is incomplete : only 4.27 Mo)
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#1078 [11:20] <zeroLimit15> up
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#1080 [11:23] <Boreeas> Geez, guys, you have to wait a little longer than 4 minutes <.<
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#1102 [12:28] <Mordy> Hello Fellow Crafters.
#1103 [12:28] <Mordy> Have a quick question I am hoping someone can assist.
#1104 [12:29] <Mordy> I host a server, and the transitions from 1.7 to 1.8 to 1.0 have made it real tough. Currently my community is dead until Bukkit is ready. Will there be more full updates that make map resets/migrations required to stay current?
#1105 [12:30] <Mordy> Im trying to decide if I should keep supporting the game, I want to for sure, but starting over each time there is an update is proving to be a community killer.
#1106 [12:30] <Boreeas> Mordy: Sorry, that's in the hands of Mojang
#1107 [12:30] <Mordy> Even in the best case where we keep maps, we lose our ability to manage the server due to bukkit not being Mojang.
#1108 [12:31] <Mordy> No disrespect, but for me a plain vanilla is unmanagebale from a server operator perspective.
#1109 [12:31] <Mordy> So i depend on Bukkit.
#1110 [12:31] <Boreeas> Mordy: I completely agree
#1111 [12:31] <Mordy> which i do not like..
#1112 [12:31] <Mordy> i would gladly pay Mojang for a server side set of tools
#1113 [12:31] <Mordy> to replace bukkit
#1114 [12:31] <Boreeas> Mordy: But we are only volunteers, neither do we know, nor do we have control, over what makes it into the next update
#1115 [12:31] <Mordy> but thats not an option
#1116 [12:32] <Mordy> i love bukkit
#1117 [12:32] <Mordy> they are heros
#1118 [12:32] <Mordy> but still volunteers - they owe nobody a thing
#1119 [12:32] <Mordy> and id like to host at a professional level
#1120 [12:32] <Mordy> so what im getting at is
#1121 [12:32] <Mordy> do i wait 6 months or a year
#1122 [12:32] <Mordy> until updates become less frequent, or do I go ahead and start over again
#1123 [12:33] <Boreeas> As I said, we can't tell you, we are only volunteers.
#1124 [12:33] <Mordy> i dont want anymore updates with new mobs blocks or any of that, i just want mojnag to PURCHASE bukkit and integrate that..or something.. something to make server management more, appropriate... I will take guesses if you have them. And suggestions as well.
#1125 [12:34] <Mordy> mcmyadmin to.. same story.. and that one I purchased..
#1126 [12:34] <Boreeas> My guess is that even mojang can't tell you. They are unpredictable when it comes to updates
#1127 [12:34] <Mordy> im patient and understand so im not pissed or anything, notch and his crew are amazing people, as are bukkit and all the modders. Integration in this regards would improve things for everyone i would think..
#1128 [12:35] <Mordy> well i wont quit, but im just hoping that 1.01 sticks for long enough to build our server communities up..
#1129 [12:35] <AG_Clinton> You can migrate worlds...
#1130 [12:36] <AG_Clinton> Or use a program to cut and copy what you want while gaining the new world generation.
#1131 [12:36] <Mordy> its much work to do a good job on a server.. Yes, we are migrating, its a bit of work, np, but mcmyadmin is not ready and is not playing nice with bukkit..
#1132 [12:37] <Mordy> so the lag time in between 3rd party updates and mojang is the time that communities that people worked hard are adversely affected..
#1133 [12:37] <Mordy> and it seriously sucks
#1134 [12:37] <Mordy> and i hear nothing out of mojang related to any of that stuff.. so i guess im just poking around for answers
#1135 [12:38] <AG_Clinton> McMyAdmin does fine with bukkit.
#1136 [12:38] <Mordy> its strange. Server Operators are Mojang's best tool. Why are they not getting more attention?
#1137 [12:38] <AG_Clinton> You can also use a development version of bukkit.
#1138 [12:38] <Mordy> it was fine in our 1.81
#1139 [12:38] <AG_Clinton> It takes effort to host a server.
#1140 [12:38] <Mordy> which versions of mcmyadmin/bukkit are playing nice for 1.01?
#1141 [12:39] <Mordy> oh yes. we have made much effort. And will continue. Just want to gripe about starting over so often.
#1142 [12:39] <AG_Clinton> All versions above 1500 work.
#1143 [12:40] <AG_Clinton> I've personally probably manually configured McMyAdmin to work with dev builds of bukkit on 150 servers or more.
#1144 [12:40] <Mordy> are you for hire?
#1145 [12:40] <AG_Clinton> Send me a PM.
#1146 [12:40] <Mordy> i could use that expert experience to support my admins in getting us up and perfect again
#1147 [12:40] <Mordy> and am willing to pay
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#1150 [12:46] <Robson> Why can't I buy Minecraft with a Visa debit card?
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#1152 [12:48] <Maneth> Hi :-) i've an issue with Minecraft PE, on my LG P970, when i arrive on the map, the game freeze and pixels change colors, i can't play, could you help me please ?
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#1159 [12:56] <li> Hiya/
#1160 [12:56] <li> *Hiya
#1161 [12:57] <mewmew> cls
#1162 [12:57] <mewmew> oops.
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#1165 [13:02] <Guest64794> hi there, i keep getting the white screen or black when i try to log in....i just doesnt log into the game :(
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#1167 [13:04] <mib_1ewua4> hi there, i keep getting the white screen or black when i try to log in....i just doesnt log into the game
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#1169 [13:05] <mib_dh47kx> hi there, i keep getting the white screen or black when i try to log in....it just doesnt log into the game
#1170 [13:05] <mib_dh47kx> nick: derrius
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#1174 [13:25] <yoshi> how do i know is my computer is set up to play minecraft
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#1179 [13:44] <ahas> http://imagetwist.com/taa5yqql1lu0/image.jpg.html
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#1181 [13:46] <Ramix> hey
#1182 [13:46] <Ramix> i got a problem on my sgs
#1183 [13:46] <Ramix> i cant see any wifi games?
#1184 [13:46] <Ramix> why is that?
#1185 [13:47] <Ramix> its stuck on "scanning for wifi games"
#1186 [13:55] <nickfromgreek> what
#1187 [13:56] <liz> Ramix: what
#1188 [13:56] <liz> sgs?
#1189 [13:56] <nickfromgreek> and what has it got to do with minecraft
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#1192 [14:00] <Ramix> samsung galaxy s
#1193 [14:00] <Ramix> it just keep trying to finf wifi games
#1194 [14:00] <treggoe> Hi, im getting error Couldn´t connect to minecraft.net when i try to log on. I´ve tried to enable java in my firewall and reinstalling it but still the same problem, I´ve windows 7 ultimate 64bit if it matters.
#1195 [14:00] <Ramix> nothing happens
#1196 [14:00] <liz> Ramix: are you sure you are under network coverage?
#1197 [14:01] <liz> and i'm not quite sure there are any servers up for the handheld edition
#1198 [14:02] <Ramix> ok that could be the problem :)
#1199 [14:02] <Ramix> liz thanks
#1200 [14:02] <Ramix> too bad if thats the case
#1201 [14:02] <liz> no problem
#1202 [14:02] <liz> and yeah
#1203 [14:03] <liz> just gotta wait for more people to buy the handheld edition
#1204 [14:03] <liz> i hear it's really cheap right now
#1205 [14:03] <treggoe> ive been here before and u told me to post my hostfile and so i did. Iam able to log on to the site and when i start the launcher i see the background text with Update and fixes and links
#1206 [14:04] <treggoe> someone got time to help me? would be great =)
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#1208 [14:08] <treggoe> Btw, just a black screen when i try to play offline mode
#1209 [14:09] <Katia> Is liz here?
#1210 [14:09] <Katia> I needs her help
#1211 [14:09] <liz> no
#1212 [14:09] <liz> Okay
#1213 [14:09] <Katia> damn
#1214 [14:09] <liz> What do you need help with, sir?
#1215 [14:09] <Katia> I need help
#1216 [14:09] <Katia> with problems
#1217 [14:09] <liz> With what?
#1218 [14:09] <Katia> such as
#1219 [14:09] <Katia> I have lost
#1220 [14:10] <Katia> a scalpel
#1221 [14:10] <Katia> up my ass
#1222 [14:10] <treggoe> haha
#1223 [14:10] <Boreeas> Katia: Enter is not to be used for punctuation
#1224 [14:10] <liz> ((hint, don't use enter as a comma or a period, you will get muted))
#1225 [14:10] <Boreeas> ;kick Katia Also, trolling
#1226 [14:10] * WugBot kicked Katia from #minecrafthelp (Reason: atia :Also, trolling)
#1227 [14:13] <treggoe> Anyone free to help me?
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#1229 [14:16] <Boreeas> :ask > treggoe
#1230 [14:16] <WugBot> treggoe: (ask) Don't ask to ask, just ask without asking to ask before asking.
#1231 [14:16] <treggoe> ^^ that doesnt make sense;P
#1232 [14:17] <treggoe> whats :ask? im not very familiar with IRC
#1233 [14:17] <treggoe> :ask hello
#1234 [14:17] <WugBot> ask: Don't ask to ask, just ask without asking to ask before asking.
#1235 [14:18] <treggoe> oh:P
#1236 [14:18] <Boreeas> :ask triggers the factoid stoed under the name "ask" in WugBots databbase
#1237 [14:18] <TheBadShepperd> I'm in your Jeeves, asking your ask, to ask about Ask not asking
#1238 [14:18] <TheBadShepperd> Askception
#1239 [14:18] <Boreeas> o.o
#1240 [14:19] <treggoe> Haha ask means small box in swedish^^
#1241 [14:19] <Boreeas> Anyways, treggoe, how can we help you ;)
#1242 [14:19] <treggoe> scrollup and read ;P
#1243 [14:20] <treggoe> Hi, im getting error Couldn´t connect to minecraft.net when i try to log on. I´ve tried to enable java in my firewall and reinstalling it but still the same problem, I´ve windows 7 ultimate 64bit if it matters.
#1244 [14:20] <Boreeas> Oops ^
#1245 [14:20] <treggoe> ive been here before and u told me to post my hostfile and so i did. Iam able to log on to the site and when i start the launcher i see the background text with Update and fixes and links
#1246 [14:20] <Boreeas> What version of java do you have installed?
#1247 [14:20] <treggoe> thats it
#1248 [14:21] <treggoe> (Version 6 Update 29).
#1249 [14:21] <Boreeas> Do you have an exclamation mark (!) in your windows username?
#1250 [14:22] <treggoe> i had that, but almostroot told me to remove it
#1251 [14:22] <treggoe> so i did
#1252 [14:22] <treggoe> ive been running a workaround the earlier verisions
#1253 [14:22] <Boreeas> treggoe: That does not always fix it, you have to create a new account without the ! in it
#1254 [14:22] <treggoe> So sorry about the enter comma thing
#1255 [14:23] <treggoe> okay, well ill try that then
#1256 [14:24] <treggoe> Ill be back to tell my progress, brb then
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#1259 [14:28] <treggoe> That was to easy, Thank you
#1260 [14:29] <treggoe> It works fine now, if i where a hot chick id blow u a kiss, but now im not so i dont ;)
#1261 [14:32] <Boreeas> ;)
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#1263 [14:36] <confuzled> i have minecraft. i bought the game and before that i had the free version installed on my computer and it ran fine. since then i have installed a new os windows 7 and had no complications there but now that i have reinstalled mincraft when i try to play it boots up fine but after the update i just get a black screen. my question... wtf?
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#1266 [14:50] <confuzled> anyone there?
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#1268 [14:54] <GaracWarlord> I tried to buy minecraft, but it said that the transaction failed. I have money, but it said that I need to confirm it because last time some one stole my money.
#1269 [14:54] <GaracWarlord> Does minecraft have a number I can call?
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#1272 [14:59] <Somebody> What is the link to the free Minecraft Demo?
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#1274 [15:01] <Somebody> What's the link to the Minecraft Demo?
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#1277 [15:04] <HI> How do you know if your computer can run Minecaft?
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#1279 [15:16] <zippity> How do you know if my computer can run Minecraft?
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#1285 [15:37] <mib_8s9x6b> User not premium but I buyed the game
#1286 [15:37] <mib_8s9x6b> what can i do ?
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#1288 [15:41] <hermanGer> hallo?
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#1291 [15:47] <herman> -
#1292 [15:47] <herman> -
#1293 [15:47] <herman> -
#1294 [15:47] <herman> -
#1295 [15:47] <herman> -
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#1298 [15:56] <colton> so my minecraft payment went through. my bank says it was withdrawn by moneybookers
#1299 [15:56] <colton> and ive yet to recieve an email
#1300 [15:57] <colton> it went through the 28thof november
#1301 [15:59] <colton> can anyone help?
#1302 [16:03] <Boreeas> colton: Any you didn't get an upgrade to premium?
#1303 [16:03] <colton> anyone??
#1304 [16:03] <colton> noo
#1305 [16:03] <Boreeas> Boreeas: Where did you buy the game?
#1306 [16:03] <colton> no*
#1307 [16:03] <colton> minecraft.net
#1308 [16:03] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1309 [16:03] <Boreeas> email support@mojang.com
#1310 [16:04] <colton> i have countless times
#1311 [16:04] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1312 [16:04] <colton> and they never reply
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#1315 [16:07] <tobylane> i installed optfine, but i cant tell if its working, should it be obvious ingame?
#1316 [16:08] <Sennyotai> tobylane: there shoudl be more options in the video options
#1317 [16:09] <tobylane> nope
#1318 [16:09] <tobylane> do i need to zip the file back up at the end or is leaving the folder names minecraft.jar enough
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#1320 [16:10] <Sennyotai> you take all the class files in the optifine zip file and put them in the minecraft.jar
#1321 [16:10] <tobylane> i know im on a dualcore, but should i try the single core version
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#1324 [16:12] <Faze_Reds> Hello everyone
#1325 [16:13] <Boreeas> Hey there, Faze_Reds
#1326 [16:13] <Boreeas> Hey there, Faze_Reds
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#1328 [16:14] <Faze_Reds> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some help with minecraft. I have a cracked version. But I'd like to play with people with multiplayer without buying because im having some trouble getting the money together at the moment
#1329 [16:14] <Sennyotai> Faze_Reds: no. go buy the game.
#1330 [16:14] <tobylane> you could always just you know, not play
#1331 [16:14] <Faze_Reds> Would there be any possible way to do that?
#1332 [16:15] <tobylane> get them to play classic
#1333 [16:15] <tobylane> if they are nice, and addicted, they'll pay
#1334 [16:15] <Sennyotai> getting them to cover a few bucks each shoudl help
#1335 [16:16] <Faze_Reds> Well, how do I get people to do lets plays like on custom made servers. How do I download those?
#1336 [16:16] <Faze_Reds> Still only using single player. I will be doing it alone.
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#1338 [16:17] <tobylane> huh?
#1339 [16:17] <tobylane> by lets plays, do you mean maps lived in by other people
#1340 [16:17] <Faze_Reds> Somewhat.
#1341 [16:18] <Faze_Reds> I ment like maps people created
#1342 [16:18] <tobylane> go google for minecraft alpha maps
#1343 [16:18] <Faze_Reds> meant*
#1344 [16:18] <Sennyotai> tobylane: a 'Lets Play' is a youtube video of someone's waty of playing a game
#1345 [16:18] <Faze_Reds> Like where people go on adventures and such
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#1347 [16:19] <Faze_Reds> And have to complete objectives to beat the game?
#1348 [16:19] <Sennyotai> if your talkign stuff like Yogscast then thats just an adventure/RP map they and their friends make.
#1349 [16:20] <Faze_Reds> Like. Maps like Carnival of Doom.
#1350 [16:21] <tobylane> single core one doesn't work either
#1351 [16:22] <Faze_Reds> Know what I mean?
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#1354 [16:23] <seashell> hey
#1355 [16:23] <seashell> anybody on?
#1356 [16:24] <tobylane> likely
#1357 [16:24] <huddler> every time i try to connect it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1358 [16:24] <seashell> hmmm
#1359 [16:24] <seashell> check your internet
#1360 [16:24] <seashell> or redownload huddler
#1361 [16:24] <huddler> i redownloaded and i still have the problem
#1362 [16:25] <Sennyotai> :manuallogin
#1363 [16:25] <seashell> hmmm...im not a profesional so...
#1364 [16:25] <Sennyotai> :/
#1365 [16:25] <seashell> idk
#1366 [16:25] <huddler> =(
#1367 [16:25] <seashell> sry
#1368 [16:25] <seashell> can anyone help me?
#1369 [16:25] <Sennyotai> ?? manuallogin
#1370 [16:25] <Sennyotai> ?? manual/login
#1371 [16:25] <huddler> the amount of sadness i have
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#1373 [16:26] <Sennyotai> ?? index
#1374 [16:26] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1375 [16:26] <seashell> does anyone know anything about servers?
#1376 [16:26] <seashell> because i need help on one
#1377 [16:26] <Sennyotai> seashell: whats the issue?
#1378 [16:26] <Sennyotai> :login/manual
#1379 [16:26] <WugBot> login/manual: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=<username>&password=<password>&version=13
#1380 [16:26] <Sennyotai> HAH! *cough*
#1381 [16:27] <Sennyotai> hud... has left... right.
#1382 [16:27] <seashell> Sennyotai, i can get it up but it wont let anybody on
#1383 [16:27] <Sennyotai> ;check seashell
#1384 [16:27] <tobylane> is there some way i can check if i am installing mods right
#1385 [16:27] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-71-192-225-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1386 [16:27] <tobylane> ;check tobylane
#1387 [16:27] <seashell> ;check?
#1388 [16:27] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: host-92-21-147-13.as13285.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1389 [16:28] <seashell> what is ;check?
#1390 [16:28] <Sennyotai> tobylane: by openign the game seeing if what its supposed to add is there?
#1391 [16:28] <Sennyotai> seashell: it checks to see if you have a server running.
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#1393 [16:28] <tobylane> i did, but i was wondering it there was a more basic mod to see if my installation is right
#1394 [16:28] <seashell> Sennyotai: how do i do ;check
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#1396 [16:29] <napoleon> Hallo
#1397 [16:29] <Sennyotai> since it cant connect then you: A) have the server off B) dont have port forwarding setup C) are using some port besides 25565 D) arnt runnign the comp on the same internet connection your comign here with
#1398 [16:29] <napoleon> Jemand da :D ?
#1399 [16:29] <seashell> do i put it into the cmd screen?
#1400 [16:29] <raven> I just bought minecraft and cannot download it to my computer run by linux
#1401 [16:30] <Sennyotai> seashell: it was me tellign wugbot to check you for a server
#1402 [16:30] <seashell> i am doing all of those things
#1403 [16:30] <Sennyotai> raven: MC username?
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#1405 [16:30] <Sennyotai> ;check
#1406 [16:30] <WugBot> adsl-75-22-163-233.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: World of Sennyo (0/3)
#1407 [16:30] <raven> DUHMAN
#1408 [16:31] <Sennyotai> seashell: if youre sure its set right, try disablign your firewall for a minute
#1409 [16:31] <Sennyotai> !paid duhman
#1410 [16:31] <Sennyotai> ??> raven payment
#1411 [16:31] <VoxelHead> raven: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1412 [16:31] <seashell> k maybe
#1413 [16:31] <VoxelHead> raven: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1414 [16:31] <raven> Yes paid
#1415 [16:31] <seashell> it has worked before the update
#1416 [16:32] <seashell> now it doesnt
#1417 [16:32] <seashell> :(
#1418 [16:32] <seashell> i updated it too
#1419 [16:32] <raven> thank you
#1420 [16:32] <seashell> still nothing
#1421 [16:33] <seashell> stupid server...
#1422 [16:33] <seashell> suggestions?
#1423 [16:33] <seashell> gg
#1424 [16:33] <Sennyotai> seashell: doublecheck...
#1425 [16:33] <raven> I have tried that minecraft.net/support and it does not help!
#1426 [16:34] <Sennyotai> raven: did you JUST but the game? like in the past hour or 3?
#1427 [16:34] <raven> last night
#1428 [16:34] * Morrolan pats Sennyotai
#1428 [16:34] <Morrolan> Welcome
#1429 [16:34] * Morrolan goes back to smoking his pipe
#1429 [16:35] <Sennyotai> hi Morrolan :P sorry for droppign peopel on you last night.
#1430 [16:35] <Morrolan> ;)
#1431 [16:35] <Morrolan> I survived it. :P
#1432 [16:35] <Sennyotai> i had to get some sleep... and didnt help i was called at 7 and told i was workign at 8.. not 1..
#1433 [16:35] <Morrolan> Understandable. :)
#1434 [16:35] <Sennyotai> raven: go check your bank to ensure the money was taken out. also check to see you got the payment confirmation from moneybookers or paypal
#1435 [16:36] <raven> k
#1436 [16:37] <raven> Payment is complete through paypal
#1437 [16:39] <raven> What do i do to get a refund if not able to download game?
#1438 [16:40] <Morrolan> raven: Mojang does not give out refunds, generally.
#1439 [16:40] <|Kiichan|> raven: refund policy is on the support page.
#1440 [16:40] <tobylane> ok.. i can manage as much as getting mc in 64bit, but not modding it
#1441 [16:40] <|Kiichan|> huh.. theres actually a form under refund now.
#1442 [16:40] <Morrolan> There is?
#1443 [16:40] <raven> how do i get there?
#1444 [16:41] <|Kiichan|> payment > refund
#1445 [16:41] <Morrolan> tobylane: Might want to ask in #risucraft if you inted on modding the game.
#1446 [16:41] <tobylane> raven give it some patients
#1447 [16:41] <Morrolan> patience, not patients. :p
#1448 [16:41] <|Kiichan|> raven: from the support page "Have you checked with your bank/PayPal that the transaction was successful? This may take up to 5 working days."
#1449 [16:42] <Faze_Reds> Could someone help me out?
#1450 [16:42] <|Kiichan|> Account > Premium > Still Regulat
#1451 [16:42] <raven> payment has gone threw.
#1452 [16:42] <raven> money out of my acct.
#1453 [16:42] <|Kiichan|> raven: payment has been sent to the payment processor. it may not have reached mojang yet
#1454 [16:42] <Faze_Reds> I want to download a minecraft beta 1.6-1.8 I can't find one that works and doesnt ask me for my username and password
#1455 [16:42] <tobylane> faze you aren't willing to pay, so no,we probably aren't willing to help
#1456 [16:43] <Morrolan> ^
#1457 [16:43] <tobylane> you get to use alpha
#1458 [16:43] <tobylane> and nothing newer afaik
#1459 [16:43] <raven> i just need to know if im downloading it right with my computer prog
#1460 [16:43] <Morrolan> Also, MOjang doesn't offer old versions, so no way to get them directly, even if you pay.
#1461 [16:43] <|Kiichan|> Faze_Reds: go ask your friend for a few bucks so you can buy the game. if they really want to play with you they should beable to shell out a bit each to fill your cash-gap
#1462 [16:43] <Faze_Reds> Thank you for the help kiichan
#1463 [16:43] <Faze_Reds> You are the only one who was actually helping me.
#1464 [16:43] <Morrolan> raven: If you're getting the "user not premium" issue then it's the payment not having gone through yet.
#1465 [16:44] <Morrolan> Faze_Reds: You don't expect us to help you pirate the game, now do you? ;)
#1466 [16:44] <|Kiichan|> Morrolan: he's using a cracked minecraft and im still debating kickign him or not... since he's not actually askign for technical help :/
#1467 [16:44] <Morrolan> As long as he doesn't ask I wouldn't kick him.
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#1469 [16:44] <raven> Got premiun
#1470 [16:44] <Morrolan> On the other hand I'm soneone who kicks very rarely only. *shrug*
#1471 [16:44] <Faze_Reds> I need a beta thats 1.6-1.8 for a custom map I am about to put up a youtube video about.
#1472 [16:44] <tobylane> faze you say that we're not helping you.. we're giving you the answer we'd always give
#1473 [16:45] <raven> it downloads the files but then thats it?
#1474 [16:45] <mib_7355bh> Good afternoon all..
#1475 [16:45] <Morrolan> Faze_Reds: Look, we are not going to help you circumvent getting a premium account in any way.
#1476 [16:45] <Faze_Reds> That's just for entertainment purposes. Not for me. For my viewers.
#1477 [16:45] <tobylane> … thats nice bs
#1478 [16:45] <|Kiichan|> raven: you download the client and log in (once your account gets its premium status) it then downloads the game files
#1479 [16:45] <Faze_Reds> I swear
#1480 [16:45] <tobylane> faze your viewers will suffer from your cheapness
#1481 [16:45] <Faze_Reds> I will be doing a let's play with this custom map
#1482 [16:46] <Faze_Reds> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/335208-carnival-of-doooom-escapechallenge-map/
#1483 [16:46] <tobylane> do you want me to post that on your youtube page?
#1484 [16:46] <Morrolan> It does not matter why or how you need a pirated client, Faze_Reds.
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#1486 [16:46] <Morrolan> Fact is, no support here, and no talking about it either. Respect this please.
#1487 [16:46] <tobylane> hey faze, i need your house for a year, for partying, not to life in
#1488 [16:46] <Faze_Reds> And it states that I need a minecraft beta between 1.6-1.8
#1489 [16:46] <Morrolan> Then go search for one, Faze_Reds.
#1490 [16:46] <raven> I will try! Thanks.
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#1493 [16:48] <mib_7355bh> Whats the typical turn time for an account to be upgraded to premium and the download feature be unlocked? (card charged, and now just waiting) thanks for the info.
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#1495 [16:48] <Morrolan> Normally it's nigh-instantly, mib_7355bh. FOr some it can take up to 5 days though.
#1496 [16:48] <Risu> My game keeps saying Minecraft has run out of memory everytime I use the .exe :( How do I fix this?
#1497 [16:49] <Jackson413> ohohohoho my troll glands are acting up
#1498 [16:49] <Morrolan> It really depends on Mojang's payment provider, Moneybookers, that is.
#1499 [16:49] <Jackson413> permission troll faze?
#1500 [16:49] <|Kiichan|> mib_7355bh: sometimes its instant, sometimes a few hours... and sometimes days.
#1501 [16:49] <|Kiichan|> Risu: you modded the game and/or using an HD texture pack?
#1502 [16:49] <mib_7355bh> Well I have the website minecraft.net in the store telling me that my account is now premium but when i go to download it, I get a message that it can't be downloaded...any thoughts?
#1503 [16:50] <Morrolan> mib_7355bh: What exact message do you get?
#1504 [16:50] <Risu> Nope :( Been doing this since I downloaded it.
#1505 [16:50] <Morrolan> Also, when exactly do you get that error, mib_7355bh?
#1506 [16:50] <sam99> last week i was told to update to mac 10.6.3 because minecraft would crash all the time. i just updated to mac 10.6.3 and its still crashing. can i have some help
#1507 [16:50] <|Kiichan|> Risu: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, HyperOS, or Atari 2600?
#1508 [16:50] <Jackson413> ill help yall
#1509 [16:50] <Risu> Windows XP
#1510 [16:50] <mib_7355bh> Minecraft_exe couldn't be downloaded...something on my side?
#1511 [16:50] <|Kiichan|> ??> Risu win/dxdiag
#1512 [16:50] <VoxelHead> Risu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1513 [16:50] <VoxelHead> Risu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1514 [16:51] <|Kiichan|> mib_7355bh: that soudn like your using *gag* IE
#1515 [16:51] <mib_7355bh> gives me the option to retry cancel or view...nothing is working when i retyr
#1516 [16:51] <mib_7355bh> yes...is that the problem?
#1517 [16:51] <Jackson413> Morrolan, is there any way to extend how high a map is?
#1518 [16:52] <Morrolan> There might be mods for it, but I do not know.
#1519 [16:52] <|Kiichan|> Jackson413: it was made easier to mod, but dunno any mods that abuse it
#1520 [16:52] <Jackson413> time to ask google
#1521 [16:52] <Morrolan> mib_7355bh: I have not heard of this specific issue, but it seems there is one. Suggest you try a different browser.
#1522 [16:52] <Jackson413> why does IE exist still?
#1523 [16:53] <Jackson413> why did it have to screw netscape
#1524 [16:53] <mib_7355bh> hmmm ok..i will give it a whirl...so from what your hearing..you don't have any alerts of the server being down or anyhing like that?
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#1526 [16:53] <Morrolan> Nope, else it would be pretty crowded in here, mib_7355bh.
#1527 [16:53] <Risu> Gah :( I'm sorry, can you repeat that? My irc messed up.
#1528 [16:53] <Morrolan> ??> Risu win/dxdiag
#1529 [16:53] <mib_7355bh> 10-4..well thanks for your information i will give it a try with another browser. thank you
#1530 [16:53] <VoxelHead> Risu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1531 [16:53] <VoxelHead> Risu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1532 [16:53] <Morrolan> Was what |Kiichan| gave you last, Risu.
#1533 [16:54] <|Kiichan|> jup
#1534 [16:54] <Risu> Thank you :)
#1535 [16:54] <Morrolan> mib_7355bh: Sure thing. If it still doesn't work - you know where to find us.
#1536 [16:54] <tobylane> what are the other good graphics mods other than optifine
#1537 [16:55] <Jackson413> Morrolan, check this out
#1538 [16:55] <Jackson413> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/556399-map-updated-12hr-digital-clock-smallest-ever-apparently/
#1539 [16:55] <Jackson413> im so impressed, and ive been playing since dec 102
#1540 [16:55] <Jackson413> 2010
#1541 [16:55] <|Kiichan|> Block Distortion is fun for awhile :D http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v100-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#1542 [16:56] <Risu> http://pastebin.com/v5yGXjjW
#1543 [16:56] <sam99> can i have some help
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#1545 [16:57] <|Kiichan|> Risu: ok you should be fine on the memory front. and your video drivers look ok at first glance... what version fo java you have?
#1546 [16:57] <Morrolan> I am not familiar with Mac, but giving the error you get might be helpful, sam99.
#1547 [16:57] <Risu> Not sure.. How do I check?
#1548 [16:57] <|Kiichan|> ?? java/version
#1549 [16:57] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1550 [16:57] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1551 [16:57] <sam99> how do i give it to u
#1552 [16:58] <Risu> Java installed (Version 6 Update 29).
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#1554 [16:59] <Morrolan> sam99: If it's short then paste it here. If it's longer than a few lines use www.pastebin.com
#1555 [16:59] <Morrolan> also, I'll go catch some sleep now, cya.
#1556 [16:59] <|Kiichan|> Risu: redownload the clientm then do a fordeupdate
#1557 [16:59] <|Kiichan|> !client
#1558 [17:00] <Risu> I already did that few times :(
#1559 [17:01] <Jackson413> is reddit down for anyone else?
#1560 [17:01] <|Kiichan|> Risu: does it do the 'out of memory' after you log in? or do you not even get the launcher?
#1561 [17:01] <|Kiichan|> !isdown http://www.reddit.com
#1562 [17:01] <Risu> After a minute or two on game.
#1563 [17:01] <GreyBot> |Kiichan|: It's just you. http://www.reddit.com is up.
#1564 [17:01] <|Kiichan|> Risu: you have alot of other things open whiel you play?
#1565 [17:02] <Jackson413> ah didnt know you could use it for that
#1566 [17:02] <Risu> Nope. Usually I have nothing up, or just skype.
#1567 [17:03] <|Kiichan|> greybot is versatile... :P
#1568 [17:03] <|Kiichan|> Risu: tried reinstalling java yet?
#1569 [17:03] <Risu> Yeah :(
#1570 [17:04] <Risu> I can play on the browser version.. But it's laggy and crashes occasionally. And then I can't go on without internet either.
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#1572 [17:04] <sam99> heres the address to the crash message. http://pastebin.com/Ti0uiLv1
#1573 [17:05] <Boreeas> Risu: Do you use a 64 bit OS?
#1574 [17:05] <|Kiichan|> ok... im honestly stumped here. you have a passable amount of ram... an ok video card... and updated java...
#1575 [17:05] <|Kiichan|> Boreeas: win xp.
#1576 [17:05] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|: win XP excists both in 32 and 64 bit version
#1577 [17:05] <Risu> It's 32.
#1578 [17:05] <|Kiichan|> http://pastebin.com/v5yGXjjW
#1579 [17:06] <|Kiichan|> sam99: youll probably want to update java.
#1580 [17:06] <sam99> where do i go to update it
#1581 [17:08] <|Kiichan|> um... apple menu.. software update? i think thats what Scott said... (sly ping)
#1582 [17:09] <Scott> ye
#1583 [17:09] <sam99> okay hang on
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#1586 [17:10] <Scott> the latest java is 1.6.0_29 btw
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#1588 [17:11] <sam99> when i went to it its not there. it just says Mac OS X Combined
#1589 [17:12] <|Kiichan|> Risu: you tried with skype shut down? it run longer?
#1590 [17:13] <Risu> I've tried, runs about the same.
#1591 [17:14] <|Kiichan|> Risu: your comps a Dell Dimension E520 desktop, right?
#1592 [17:14] <Risu> Yeah.
#1593 [17:18] <|Kiichan|> Risu: try updating the video driver? ftp://ftp.dell.com/video/R129368.EXE
#1594 [17:19] <Risu> I'll try :)
#1595 [17:19] * |Kiichan| isnt even sure thats actually updated.. but it is dated 3 months after the ones you have installed :P
#1595 [17:20] <Scott> sam99: You're OS isn't updated.
#1596 [17:20] <Scott> Update it.
#1597 [17:20] <sam99> ah okay
#1598 [17:20] <Scott> Those updates contain things like drivers etc
#1599 [17:20] <sam99> gotchya
#1600 [17:20] <Scott> You may not even have java installed.
#1601 [17:20] <Scott> oh you do
#1602 [17:20] <Scott> but it's really out of date as is your OS
#1603 [17:20] <Scott> do the update please ;p
#1604 [17:21] <sam99> im updating the mac thing now
#1605 [17:23] <sam99> 12 minutes left
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#1607 [17:25] <skyking98> whenever i press my inventory on the mincraft game it freezes and i cant do anything what do i do
#1608 [17:25] <Scott> You're going to have to reboot, sam99.
#1609 [17:25] <Scott> so when you get back, highlight me
#1610 [17:25] <|Kiichan|> skyking98: have you modded he game before?
#1611 [17:25] <skyking98> r u talking to me?
#1612 [17:26] <sam99> okay
#1613 [17:26] <skyking98> no never used mods
#1614 [17:26] <|Kiichan|> ?? forceupdate
#1615 [17:26] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1616 [17:26] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1617 [17:26] <skyking98> yes i have done that before and it didnt work
#1618 [17:27] <skyking98> how do i reinstall minecraft files?
#1619 [17:28] <|Kiichan|> that redownloads and overwrites everything... you can manually delete everything by following these instructions.
#1620 [17:28] <|Kiichan|> ?? win/reinst
#1621 [17:28] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1622 [17:28] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1623 [17:29] <skyking98> k i will tanks for te help, ill be back if it doesnt work
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#1625 [17:31] <sam99> 4 minutes left
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#1627 [17:31] <Damein> hey i have one question is there any way to change the music in the minecraft thing from that annoying music to like a song?
#1628 [17:32] <skyking98> damein: unforchantly that is immpossibe
#1629 [17:34] <Damein> .... that sux.... not even if i go into .minecraft resources music and delete the three files there and place a mp3 file in it
#1630 [17:34] <sam99> mute the music then go to youtube and pick a song lol idk
#1631 [17:34] <Damein> but that takes effort and im lazy
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#1633 [17:35] <Risu> That didn't work :(
#1634 [17:35] <Damein> that sux
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#1637 [17:39] <mr_evil> hi
#1638 [17:39] <Tritonio> Hello. Is there someone that can tell me what is wrong with my delay line? It doesn't work in single player depending on the orientation (north/south) (http://i.imgur.com/QfcaO.jpg)
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#1640 [17:41] <mr_evil> I have a Ubuntu 11.10 of x86_64 bit. And the last version of Minecraft (1.0.0) run slow (very slow) when I am playing 2 minutes more or less. And older versions run fine.
#1641 [17:42] <Tritonio> And another question. How often do repeaters sample their input? Every tick? For example if one with a 4tick delay is turned off and I give it a 1tick pulse will it emit a 1 tick pulse 4 ticks afterwards?
#1642 [17:42] <Scott> mr_evil: My fiancé said the same thing happens to him.
#1643 [17:42] <Scott> We never figured out why.
#1644 [17:42] <quaddle> hi it keeps saying "communication error/cant reach server" when i try to connect to a multiplayer server, just this specific server, dont have any other multiplay servers added, can anyone help?
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#1646 [17:43] <mr_evil> And I play offline.
#1647 [17:48] <mr_evil> And is there any solution?
#1648 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#1649 [17:48] <Scott> I wonder where same is...
#1650 [17:48] <Scott> sam*
#1651 [17:48] <Scott> it doesn't take that long to install the updates
#1652 [17:49] <Scott> actually it might...
#1653 [17:49] <Scott> he's 5 minor versions behind lol
#1654 [17:49] <Risu> :( My driver update didn't fix anything.
#1655 [17:52] <Tritonio> Asking again for the new users: Is there someone that can tell me what is wrong with my delay line? It doesn't work in single player depending on the orientation (north/south) (http://i.imgur.com/QfcaO.jpg) And another question. How often do repeaters sample their input? Every tick? For example if one with a 4tick delay is turned off and I give it a 1tick pulse will it emit a 1 tick pulse 4 ticks afterwards?
#1656 [17:52] <Tritonio> Actually the new users left so this is just a bump...
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#1658 [17:53] <Spectob> hello?
#1659 [17:53] <Scott> ?olleh
#1660 [17:53] <Spectob> i need help
#1661 [17:53] <Scott> ?? ask
#1662 [17:53] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1663 [17:53] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1664 [17:54] <Spectob> ok when i start up minecraft i log in
#1665 [17:54] <Spectob> but when its just loding it gets right before the Mojang screen
#1666 [17:54] <Spectob> *loading
#1667 [17:54] <Spectob> then it closes
#1668 [17:54] <Spectob> i ve reset my MC about 4 times now
#1669 [17:54] <Spectob> still nothing
#1670 [17:56] <Spectob> hello?
#1671 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Got any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid that generate where the launcher is?
#1672 [17:56] <Spectob> yes
#1673 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you share them via pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read them?
#1674 [17:56] <Spectob> its when java has an error or somting
#1675 [17:57] <Spectob> ok
#1676 [17:57] <Spectob> http://mibpaste.com/vSvp0X
#1677 [17:57] <Spectob> there
#1678 [17:58] <Spectob> i know what i i did wrong though , i installed a mod wrong and has happed before
#1679 [17:58] <Spectob> *happend
#1680 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. Know how to reinstall minecraft?
#1681 [17:59] <Spectob> yeah i did that from MC.net
#1682 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> That's just the launcher
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#1684 [17:59] <Spectob> hmmmm
#1685 [17:59] <Spectob> then no
#1686 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you go back to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
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#1688 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for saves. then run minecraft again
#1689 [17:59] <Spectob> or windows r
#1690 [17:59] <Spectob> :)
#1691 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> People always ask, what's the win key, hence why I stopped saying that
#1692 [18:00] <Spectob> lol
#1693 [18:00] <sam99> Scott: im back. sorry it took so long. i updated the mac thing
#1694 [18:00] <Scott> check for updates again
#1695 [18:00] <sam99> okay
#1696 [18:01] <Spectob> ok i ran MC but it says i havent downloaded it
#1697 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - What does the say to the left of "not downloaded", in red text?
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#1699 [18:01] <Spectob> login failed
#1700 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Means you put in your username/password wrong
#1701 [18:01] <Spectob> hmm
#1702 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Recheck your password. If that doesn't work, reset your password from the website
#1703 [18:02] <Spectob> ok i fixed it
#1704 [18:02] <Spectob> crap
#1705 [18:02] <Spectob> it closed after loading
#1706 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> error text?
#1707 [18:02] <Spectob> no nothing
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#1709 [18:03] <Spectob> the error text comes from in form of like a notepad on my desktop
#1710 [18:03] <Spectob> thats where i pasted it from
#1711 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> You deleted everything from .minecraft except for saves, right?
#1712 [18:03] <Spectob> well i didnt really have any
#1713 [18:03] <sam99> okay it says Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 6
#1714 [18:04] <sam99> is that it?
#1715 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - You.. didn't have any what?
#1716 [18:04] <Spectob> no saves
#1717 [18:04] <Spectob> i deleated them a couple days ago
#1718 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then is your .minecraft folder empty?
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#1720 [18:04] <Spectob> i got bored
#1721 [18:04] <Spectob> hmm yeah
#1722 [18:04] <Spectob> wait no
#1723 [18:05] <Spectob> lemme delete bin and lastlogin
#1724 [18:05] <Spectob> ok
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#1726 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Now run minecraft?
#1727 [18:05] <Spectob> ok
#1728 [18:06] <sam99> Scott: it says Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 6
#1729 [18:06] <Spectob> nope
#1730 [18:06] <Spectob> still the same
#1731 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Could you attempt to run minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#1733 [18:07] <Spectob> ok ill try
#1734 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> It'll run minecraft in the cmd prompt with a .bat file, if there's any errors, it'll show up there
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#1737 [18:09] <jarnes93> help!!! i get the can't connect to minecraft.net
#1738 [18:09] <jarnes93> i tryed to delete .minecraft folder
#1739 [18:10] <jarnes93> but that doesent help
#1740 [18:10] <Spectob> hmm i can open it but nothing comes up
#1741 [18:10] <xarcus> im trying to get minecreaft working on my comp it ran very laggy and i put in a graphics card now it seems to run great but only 2 minutes at a time then im sitting at the desk top
#1742 [18:10] <Spectob> Xarcus
#1743 [18:10] <Spectob> go to skydaz.com
#1744 [18:10] <Spectob> and get his optifine mmod installer
#1745 [18:10] <Spectob> it will install Optifine for you which gets FPS up
#1746 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Does anything show up in the cmd prompt window?
#1747 [18:11] <Spectob> nothing pops up
#1748 [18:11] <jarnes93> whats wrong... i've tryed with different java versions
#1749 [18:11] <jarnes93> too
#1750 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Nothing at all?
#1751 [18:11] <Spectob> should i have MC open
#1752 [18:11] <Spectob> if no than no
#1753 [18:11] <Spectob> nothing
#1754 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a cmd prompt window?
#1755 [18:11] <Scott> sam99: install that
#1756 [18:11] <Spectob> no
#1757 [18:12] <sam99> okay i did
#1758 [18:12] <mib_gki1ed> d
#1759 [18:12] <sam99> is that all i need to do?
#1760 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Did you launch minecraft with the .bat file you made using the instructions?
#1761 [18:12] <xarcus> thanks
#1762 [18:12] <Spectob> i cant get it to my desktop
#1763 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Which one? The .bat file or the minecraft.jar?
#1764 [18:12] <Spectob> the jar
#1765 [18:13] <Scott> i believe so
#1766 [18:13] <Spectob> wait i have an idea
#1767 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Well, where did you download minecraft.jar to
#1768 [18:13] <sam99> okay thank you so much for your help. =]
#1769 [18:13] <jarnes93> help me pllliiizzz.... i've tryed to fix this for like 6 hours
#1770 [18:13] <Spectob> well im on chrome so it shows up in the window...
#1771 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - press ctrl-J to bring up the downloads folder
#1772 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Then look for the file, click on "Show folder"
#1773 [18:14] <Spectob> i did
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#1775 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Then move the minecraft.jar file to your desktop
#1776 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> jarnes93 - Has it ever worked before?
#1777 [18:15] <jarnes93> not on this computer
#1778 [18:15] <Spectob> hmmmm ok i have a shortcut to the jar
#1779 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> jarnes93 - What operating system?
#1780 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Why.. a shortcut?
#1781 [18:15] <jarnes93> win 7 64bit
#1782 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> jarnes93 - Does that computer's windows username have a ! mark in it?
#1783 [18:16] <jarnes93> wow, u'r a wizzard
#1784 [18:16] <jarnes93> is that the problem?
#1785 [18:16] <jarnes93> i got a "!"
#1786 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it is
#1787 [18:16] <jarnes93> in my username¨
#1788 [18:17] <Spectob> well long story.. i downloaded the linux instead of windows link so i got that and i have the windows link:/
#1789 [18:17] <jarnes93> tnx, u'r the best <3
#1790 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> You have two options at this point jarnes93, either make a new windows user account, or you can use our workaround
#1791 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#1792 [18:17] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1793 [18:17] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1794 [18:17] <Spectob> i have to leave but i will be back in maybe 30 min or so
#1795 [18:18] <Spectob> ok?
#1796 [18:18] <jarnes93> gray... can't i change the username someplase?
#1797 [18:18] <jarnes93> grey*
#1798 [18:18] <Spectob> hmm
#1799 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Not easily
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#1801 [18:19] <Spectob> ok so *terminator voice * ill be back
#1802 [18:19] <Spectob> see ya
#1803 [18:19] <jarnes93> what is my best option?
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#1805 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Use the workaround
#1806 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#1807 [18:19] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1808 [18:19] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1809 [18:19] <jarnes93> ok i'l do
#1810 [18:21] <jim> Grey Vulpine how do i update my video card so i can play minecraft because there seems to be a error please help
#1811 [18:21] <jarnes93> works
#1812 [18:21] <jarnes93> thank you guys!!!
#1813 [18:21] <jarnes93> c yah <3
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#1815 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> jim - All depends on what operating system you're on, and what video card you have
#1816 [18:22] <jim> GreyVulpine i am currently on dell
#1817 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Could you me a dxdiag?
#1818 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> jim win/dxdiag
#1819 [18:23] <VoxelHead> jim: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1820 [18:23] <VoxelHead> jim: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1821 [18:24] <jim> wherwhat is dxdiag?
#1822 [18:24] <jim> what is dxdiag
#1823 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Shows more information about your system. If you follow VoxelHead's instructions, you'll be able to share that with us
#1824 [18:26] <jim> where can i possiably find the dxdiag?
#1825 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead had instructions.
#1826 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> <@VoxelHead> jim: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1827 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> <@VoxelHead> jim: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1829 [18:28] <sam99> Scott: when i go to play usually a cup of coffee or something pops up before the game starts and it has arrows around it. this time when i did it there was an exclamation point over the cup of coffe and it wont load
#1830 [18:28] <jim> whta is the Win+r keys i do not understand that please tell me so i may continue
#1831 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/key
#1832 [18:29] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1833 [18:29] <Tritonio> Last bump: Is there someone that can tell me what is wrong with my delay line? It doesn't work in single player depending on the orientation (north/south) (http://i.imgur.com/QfcaO.jpg) And another question. How often do repeaters sample their input? Every tick? For example if one with a 4tick delay is turned off and I give it a 1tick pulse will it emit a 1 tick pulse 4 ticks afterwards?
#1834 [18:29] <Scott> sam99: are you playing minecraft or minecraft classic?
#1835 [18:29] <sam99> regular minecraft
#1836 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Tritonio - To your second question, yeah, it'll emit a pulse 4 ticks afterwards
#1837 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Tritonio - To your delay line question, I have no idea what that wiring is supposed to do
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#1839 [18:32] <Tritonio> GreyVulpine: I did a test. I had a tick wide pulse go around a loop of 1tick delayers. And then I incresed the delay of one of those delayers to 4. And when the pulse passed through that it become a 4tick wide pulse. So I still don't get what a delayer actually does...
#1840 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> A delayer/repeater/diode does just that. Allows a pulse to flow through in one direction, refreshes a signal beyond the 14 distance, and delays a signal going through it by 1/2/3/4 ticks
#1841 [18:33] <Tritonio> but it also widens pulses it seems.
#1842 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't do that
#1843 [18:34] <Tritonio> well... it does. :-/
#1844 [18:34] <Scott> !client
#1845 [18:34] <Scott> sam99: download for OS X
#1846 [18:34] <jim> GreyVulpine i have windows xp home edition when i pressed the flag in between the ctrl and alt where am i suppose to type?
#1847 [18:34] <sam99> huh?
#1848 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> jim - Press your windows+R keys at the same time
#1849 [18:34] <jim> ah k
#1850 [18:35] <sam99> Scott: dowload what?
#1851 [18:35] <sam99> *download
#1852 [18:37] <Scott> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip sam99
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#1854 [18:39] <sam99> Scott: yay it works!!! lol
#1855 [18:39] <Scott> you can drag Minecraft.app to the applications folder in the dock if you want
#1856 [18:40] <sam99> okay
#1857 [18:41] <jim> C:\Documents and Settings\admin\Desktop\DxDiag.txt GreyVulpine
#1858 [18:41] <Scott> lol.
#1859 [18:41] <Tritonio> So is this a bug I should somehow report? The fact that repeaters increase the length of pulses?
#1860 [18:41] <jim> GreyVulpine is that what i had to do?
#1861 [18:42] <sam99> thxs a bunch
#1862 [18:42] <sam99> ill come back if i need anything else
#1863 [18:42] <jim> http://mibpaste.com/NdSQey
#1864 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> - You needed to go into the dxdiag file on your desktop, copy everything inside, and paste it at pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL to it
#1865 [18:43] <jim> o
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#1868 [18:48] <Tritonio> is there a channel for redstone discussions?
#1869 [18:49] <GermX22> i am having problems starting the game.
#1870 [18:49] <jim> GreyVulpine http://mibpaste.com/mF73ed
#1871 [18:50] <jim> http://pastebin.com/yMGvcYvm
#1872 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> There used to be a channel, #redstone, but don't know if they're around anymore
#1873 [18:51] <jim> GreyVulpine here is the link http://pastebin.com/yMGvcYvm
#1874 [18:51] <Tritonio> GreyVulpine it is. But it's like 5-6 people. ;-) I'll try asking there too anyway. Thanks!
#1875 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> I see that, one moment jim
#1876 [18:51] <jim> GreyVulpine ok
#1877 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Man, that is an old computer jim. I really don't know if minecraft will run on that computer
#1878 [18:53] <jim> you sure? i checked java it worked but just one error that i needed to update as i said
#1879 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Your computer has half a gig of RAM, plus an intel integrated video chipset. Minecraft, tries to reserve a gig of RAM for itself. Your operating system takes RAM, as well as any other running programs. Your intel video chipset also shares system RAM to do 3d acceleration, which your system doesn't have any left..
#1880 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> If your machine will run minecraft, it certainly won't run it well.
#1881 [18:55] <Tritonio> I think people got less than 10FPS in such configurations
#1882 [18:55] <jim> i will try my best to atleast try to
#1883 [18:55] <Tritonio> which is like looking at photos really fast... :-)
#1884 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Tritonio - 10 FPS is optimistic for that setup
#1885 [18:56] <GermX22> i need some help. Every time i download minecraft it loads and shuts itself down, I have the latest version of java on my computer but it still doesn't work. what do i do?!
#1886 [18:56] <jim> i had much worst games that wouldnt run this computer but i did manage to run it
#1887 [18:56] <Tritonio> That's why i said less than 10FPS. I jsut think I've read that it topped at 10FPS at some points only.
#1888 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is actually a very demanding game jim. There's one option to run minecraft with reduced memory allocation, but even that's pushing it
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#1890 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh -- If -Xms256M -Xmx256M won't run it, you can try -Xms64M -Xmx64M
#1891 [18:57] <Tritonio> jim don't judge minecraft by the blocky graphics. It's really heavy on your resources. Especially on RAM.
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#1893 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> But I wouldn't trust minecraft to run on any less than 64 megs of RAM.
#1894 [18:57] <jim> hmm
#1895 [18:58] <jim> how much memory does minecraft need GreyVulpine
#1896 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> We recommend a system with at a minimum of a gig to a gig and a half of ram
#1897 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> My laptop runs at 4 gigs of RAM, with a dedicated video card, and even minecraft gives it a run for its money.
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#1899 [19:00] <jim> and you tell me my computer is half ram
#1900 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> half a gig, yes.
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#1902 [19:01] <jim> will it work or not?
#1903 [19:01] <jim> ????
#1904 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> If it runs minecraft, it won't be playable.
#1905 [19:01] <jim> what you mean lots of errors and black screens?
#1906 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> I mean, moving your mouse will be a slideshow.
#1907 [19:02] <jim> thats a lot of lag
#1908 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Certainly will be.
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#1910 [19:03] <jim> hmm should i get a new computer or try it
#1911 [19:03] <Tritonio> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/28803-guidefix-performance-increase-for-intel-gma-users/
#1912 [19:03] <Omega_Guardian> you could try the web based client or maybe I hear theres a fully current demo version that gives you 90 minutes of playtime before it closes.
#1913 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> I would recommend a new computer.
#1914 [19:03] <flash1133> how do i put ranks into my server, such as MOD or ADMIN?
#1915 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - WIth a modded server
#1916 [19:03] <flash1133> where do i get that?
#1917 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Depends on whether you're running a classic or premium server
#1918 [19:04] <flash1133> premium
#1919 [19:04] <flash1133> 1.0.0
#1920 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Then check out bukkit.
#1921 [19:04] <flash1133> ok
#1922 [19:04] <jim> how much gig do you need to not get a lagged minecraft? GreyVulpine
#1923 [19:04] <flash1133> thx
#1924 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1925 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> jim - At least 1-1.5 gigabytes of RAM.
#1926 [19:04] <Tritonio> how is bukkit able to use the world generator?
#1927 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Tritonio - What do you mean?
#1928 [19:04] <flash1133> ok
#1929 [19:04] <Tritonio> did they get the source?
#1930 [19:04] <flash1133> thxx
#1931 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> They decompiled the source code
#1932 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> (or notch provided them with it, later on)
#1933 [19:05] <Tritonio> huh? seriously?
#1934 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Back then, yes.
#1935 [19:05] <Tritonio> wow now I love java even more... :-P
#1936 [19:05] <GermX22> :( none of these websites help me
#1937 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> It's not an easy process. Decompiling the source code still leaves you with obsfucated source code
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#1939 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> function aa calls bb, doing c(ed.e)
#1940 [19:06] <flash1133> ok i went to that URL for bukkit and i got it, and read the readme.txt followed the instructions and got an error that it cant load it
#1941 [19:06] <Tritonio> yeah I know... But I though minecraft was using some commercial java obsfucator...
#1942 [19:06] <jim> GreyVulpine i would like to atleast try the game even with the never ending slide shows plus i think the video card update might make it easier to run the game
#1943 [19:06] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1943 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> jim - Then try http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#1945 [19:07] <Spectob> ok back
#1946 [19:07] <Spectob> srry i was gone
#1947 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Can't load what, exactly?
#1948 [19:07] <Tritonio> flash there is a channel for help with bukkit i think. let me find it for you
#1949 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> It's #bukkit
#1950 [19:07] <flash1133> thx
#1951 [19:07] <Omega_Guardian> Optifine helps boost performance too, I use it to make it decently playable for me, apart from better control of the graphics
#1952 [19:07] <flash1133> yeah ik
#1953 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Omega_Guardian - 510 megs of RAM, with an intel 82965 chipset..
#1954 [19:07] <Spectob> i agree with Omega
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#1956 [19:08] <Omega_Guardian> pentium4 here
#1957 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> I seriously doubt optifine will put a dent in that at all
#1958 [19:08] <flash1133> back
#1959 [19:08] <jim> GreyVulpine wheres number three?
#1960 [19:08] <GermX22> i need some help. Every time i download minecraft it loads and shuts itself down, I have the latest version of java on my computer but it still doesn't work. what am i doing wrong?
#1961 [19:08] <Omega_Guardian> haven't played in a month but going by those specs yep it'd be entirely unuseable
#1962 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> jim - There is no number 3
#1963 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#1964 [19:08] <Spectob> Germ i have the same problem !:D
#1965 [19:08] <jim> GreyVulpine you skipped lines?
#1966 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1967 [19:09] <GermX22> GreyVulpine Yes
#1968 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> jim - If I didn't leave white space between instructions, that pastebin would be entirely unreadable.
#1969 [19:09] <flash1133> @GreyVulpine the error is "unable to access jarfile" in the cmd box
#1970 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - Please copy the contents of it, paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URl to it
#1971 [19:09] <jim> GreyVulpine i see
#1972 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Did you download the bukkit.jar?
#1973 [19:09] <flash1133> yeah
#1974 [19:10] <Spectob> hey grey
#1975 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah Spectob?
#1976 [19:10] <Spectob> im back:D
#1977 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> I see that
#1978 [19:10] <Spectob> lol
#1979 [19:10] <flash1133> Windows CraftBukkit Setup.zip
#1980 [19:10] <Spectob> you can work with germ and me together
#1981 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Then, what's inside?
#1982 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Spectob- And flash ,and jim, and..
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#1984 [19:10] <Spectob> hmm
#1985 [19:11] <Spectob> yeah i guess..:)
#1986 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Hah.
#1987 [19:11] <Spectob> i forgot thats kinda your job
#1988 [19:11] <flash1133> Latest CrafyBukkit Download.url and read me.txt and craftbukkit started.bat
#1989 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> I do this on my free time. I am not an employee of Mojang, nor do I get paid by them
#1990 [19:11] <Spectob> oh
#1991 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> I volunteer my technical expertise here, out of my own good will
#1992 [19:11] <Spectob> cool
#1993 [19:11] <Spectob> thats good
#1994 [19:12] <Spectob> to help people like us
#1995 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1996 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Then extract those files to a folder, and run craftbukkit started.bat
#1997 [19:12] <Spectob> ok so where were we.. ok i couldn't get that jar file to the desktop
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#1999 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Did you go to your ctrl+j downloads folder in chrome, and see where chrome downloaded minecraft.jar to?
#2000 [19:13] <GermX22> GreyVulpine here is the URL http://pastebin.com/8HGneEC9
#2001 [19:13] <Spectob> i clicked "show in folder" but nothing happend
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#2003 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - Looks like your ATI video drivers are at fault. Also, you're running java7, which has been known to cause problems. Do you know how to uninstall java and reinstall it?
#2004 [19:14] <flash1133> ok it says unable to access jarfile craftbukkit-0.0.1-snapshot.jar
#2005 [19:14] <GermX22> yes is do
#2006 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - You can also reinstall ATI/AMD video drivers from amd's site
#2007 [19:14] <Spectob> i also have the latest Java
#2008 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - You can get the latest snapshot of the bukkit jar from: http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/promotion/latest/Recommended/artifact/target/
#2009 [19:15] <flash1133> ok thx 1 min
#2010 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - No idea what your chrome is doing, but ctrl+j, then clicking on "Show in folder", show pop up a windows explorer window where chome downloads its files to
#2011 [19:16] <Puddles> Everytime I try and run minecraft this is what I get --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 --------Generated 07/12/11 7:04 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1Java: 1.6.0_29, Sun Microsystems Inc.VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.LWJGL: 2.4.2[failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] or
#2012 [19:16] <Spectob> hmm
#2013 [19:16] <Spectob> PUDDLES!!
#2014 [19:16] <Spectob> WAIT
#2015 [19:16] <flash1133> that is downloading.. i save it to the same folder as i etracted to other files too right?
#2016 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Please don't paste that here. Use www.pastebin.com, and paste it there, submit it, then give us the URL
#2017 [19:16] <Spectob> USE pastebin
#2018 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Yes
#2019 [19:16] <flash1133> ok now what?
#2020 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Run the .bat
#2021 [19:16] <flash1133> ok
#2022 [19:17] <GermX22> GreyVulpine i have uninstalled java 7 do i also need to uninstall java 6?
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#2025 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - If it were me, I'd uninstall all versions of java, then reinstall 6 fresh from java.com
#2026 [19:17] <Spectob> im going to try to find it in my down loads
#2027 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Ensures a clean install of java, with no old, lingering files
#2028 [19:17] <jim> GreyVulpine on your pastebin for step one i see two jars on the minecraft's site which is the correct one linux or the multiplayer jars?
#2029 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> jim - the linux on
#2030 [19:17] <GermX22> GreyVulpine i will try it and see what happens
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#2032 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> GermX22 - On top of that, you'll need to update your ATI video drivers
#2033 [19:18] <flash1133> ok GreyVulpine its running and amilln numbers are coming up its working :) thanks
#2034 [19:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#2034 [19:18] <flash1133> is that all?
#2035 [19:18] <clarjon1> hah!
#2036 [19:18] <clarjon1> http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/epic-win-photos-minecraft-win.jpg
#2037 [19:18] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2037 [19:18] <Puddles> like that http://pastebin.com/rgEaEy3q
#2038 [19:18] <flash1133> is that all Grey?
#2039 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - To put in ranks, you need a plugin like permissionsEX, or some other rank plugin
#2040 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> You can ask in #bukkit for their recommendation
#2041 [19:19] <kdude1707> i bought the game and when i tried to connect to a server (populer) it didnt work... ive been trying for awhile :(
#2042 [19:19] <flash1133> ok thanks ill go there
#2043 [19:19] <flash1133> thanks for your help!!
#2044 [19:19] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2045 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> kdude1707 - Have you tried other servers?
#2046 [19:20] <kdude1707> yes about 5 from xephos to anonomous
#2047 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> What error(s) do you get?
#2048 [19:20] <Puddles> someone help me?
#2049 [19:20] <WugBot> Puddles: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2050 [19:20] <kdude1707> hold on ill check sorry..
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#2052 [19:21] <Juan-Zx> Hey how can i fix the crash error when you log into minecraft?
#2053 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Puddles - Please don't paste that here. Use www.pastebin.com, and paste it there, submit it, then give us the URL
#2054 [19:21] <Spectob> how do i create a new folder
#2055 [19:21] <Puddles> I cant play minecraft this is what I get http://pastebin.com/rgEaEy3q
#2056 [19:21] <Spectob> ?
#2057 [19:21] <Puddles> I have already
#2058 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Uninstall and reinstall java
#2059 [19:21] <Puddles> k
#2060 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Create a new folder where?
#2061 [19:21] <Spectob> in my downloads
#2062 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Just right click -> new -> folder..
#2063 [19:22] <nina> does anyone know if there is a way to convert a SSP map to SMP?
#2064 [19:22] <Spectob> i cant open the folder in google
#2065 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> nina - Just copy it over. there's no conversion needed
#2066 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> It's the same format
#2067 [19:22] <Spectob> so i went to my downloads but it makes a Winrar archive
#2068 [19:22] <nina> I thought the SMP maps had each chunk saved seperatly
#2069 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Nope. same format nina
#2070 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Has been like that since I've been here in Alpha.
#2071 [19:23] <kdude1707> it says failed to connect to server connection timed out: connect
#2072 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> kdude1707 - Then that server is down.
#2073 [19:23] <nina> *bows politely and gives GreyVulpine a gentle tailhug* my thanks to you
#2074 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> kdude1707 - Could you try the server, s.nerd.nu
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#2076 [19:23] <kdude1707> all of them ive tried? ..... doubt it
#2077 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Do you have the downloads folder open?
#2078 [19:23] <kdude1707> no hard feelings
#2079 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> kdude1707 - Try reddit's server
#2080 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to it, it's not you
#2081 [19:23] <squiggy> Minecraft won't open at all for me.
#2082 [19:24] <kdude1707> whats the ip?
#2083 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> s.nerd.nu
#2084 [19:24] <squiggy> I click the icon but nothing happens.
#2085 [19:24] <Spectob> yes and im continuing with directions
#2086 [19:24] <kdude1707> k ill try
#2087 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Do you see the file that you downloaded there?
#2088 [19:24] <Spectob> yes and it is now in a new folder
#2089 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#2090 [19:25] <Spectob> should i send to desktop?
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#2092 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - If you wish.
#2093 [19:25] <Spectob> ok ima do it
#2094 [19:25] <kdude1707> wait it worked on that server its a miricle but awkwardly no others ....thanks!
#2095 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> kdude1707 -Then all the servers you tried so far, are down.
#2096 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do there, but find servers that are up
#2097 [19:25] <kdude1707> thanks!!!!
#2098 [19:25] * GreyVulpine nods
#2098 [19:25] <montezuma> hello i need help
#2099 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I need a little break... back in a few
#2100 [19:26] <montezuma> hello? i need help is anyone here?
#2101 [19:26] <montezuma> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo?????????????????????
#2102 [19:27] <montezuma> can someone help me please?
#2103 [19:27] <WugBot> montezuma: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2104 [19:27] <Spectob> ok command prompt screen is up
#2105 [19:27] <Spectob> (finnaly)
#2106 [19:28] <Spectob> ok...............
#2107 [19:28] <Spectob> ok MC closed and i pressed a key so the prompt thing would close... what now?
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#2109 [19:29] <Spectob> awkward silence
#2110 [19:29] <SadieRaine> Is the only thing you need to run minecraft a graphics card, updated drivers, and updated Java 1.6?
#2111 [19:29] <Spectob> me?
#2112 [19:30] <SadieRaine> ...
#2113 [19:30] <Spectob> ...
#2114 [19:30] <SadieRaine> Well who else is their besides you?
#2115 [19:30] <jim> MEEEE
#2116 [19:30] <Spectob> Monte, and grey
#2117 [19:30] <Spectob> and jim...
#2118 [19:31] <Spectob> well im inda talking to Gery no offence
#2119 [19:31] <SadieRaine> Can someone (I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS!) just answer my question, please?
#2120 [19:31] <Spectob> well what do you need?
#2121 [19:31] <SadieRaine> Is the only thing you need to run minecraft a graphics card, updated drivers, and updated Java 1.6?
#2122 [19:31] <jim> yes
#2123 [19:31] <Spectob> hmm well you need space on you Hard drive
#2124 [19:31] <jim> well that
#2125 [19:32] <SadieRaine> and...?
#2126 [19:32] <montezuma> When i try to play the old version of minecraft the game loads normally for a few seconds. Then a popup window appears and asks me if i trust this publishers content and if i want to run it. After that i press run but then the popup appears again. It goes so on and so on and at one point it goes away and the loading screen goes black. Can you help me?
#2127 [19:32] <Spectob> hmm
#2128 [19:32] <Spectob> Montezuma
#2129 [19:32] <montezuma> When i try to play the old version of minecraft the game loads normally for a few seconds. Then a popup window appears and asks me if i trust this publishers content and if i want to run it. After that i press run but then the popup appears again. It goes so on and so on and at one point it goes away and the loading screen goes black. Can you help me?
#2130 [19:32] <SadieRaine> ...
#2131 [19:32] <SadieRaine> Thank you for your help..
#2132 [19:32] <Spectob> what you have sir is the black screen of death
#2133 [19:32] <montezuma> Can some one help me at all?
#2134 [19:32] <montezuma> When i try to play the old version of minecraft the game loads normally for a few seconds. Then a popup window appears and asks me if i trust this publishers content and if i want to run it. After that i press run but then the popup appears again. It goes so on and so on and at one point it goes away and the loading screen goes black. Can you help me?
#2135 [19:32] <Spectob> wait....
#2136 [19:33] <Spectob> hm
#2137 [19:33] <jim> monte reinstall java
#2138 [19:33] <Spectob> brb
#2139 [19:33] <montezuma> When i try to play the old version of minecraft the game loads normally for a few seconds. Then a popup window appears and asks me if i trust this publishers content and if i want to run it. After that i press run but then the popup appears again. It goes so on and so on and at one point it goes away and the loading screen goes black. Can you help me?
#2140 [19:33] <hmw> montezuma: repeating your question will not help you. we can read. Please stop spamming
#2141 [19:33] <montezuma> ok i wil stop
#2142 [19:34] <montezuma> butt please help me i was going to get the beta version for christmas
#2143 [19:34] <montezuma> butt please help me i was going to get the beta version for christmas
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#2145 [19:34] <hmw> don't you have bought the game?
#2146 [19:34] <jim> montezuma restall java if that doesnt work check the hard driver for any errors
#2147 [19:35] <Spectob> back
#2148 [19:35] <hmw> that sounds like some weird security software
#2149 [19:35] <montezuma> no right now i can onl play the old version. if i fix the probleme for christmas i will get the new version
#2150 [19:35] <hmw> montezuma: are you using a cracked version of MC?
#2151 [19:35] <Spectob> darn i need to eat dinner
#2152 [19:35] <Omega_Guardian> I would figure the new version would be working better
#2153 [19:35] <Spectob> i WILL brb
#2154 [19:35] <montezuma> butt on my apple it doesn't have java i searched for it
#2155 [19:35] <Spectob> dont leave Grey
#2156 [19:36] <jim> o you have apple monte
#2157 [19:36] <montezuma> pls i really need help!! it looks like a loy of fun
#2158 [19:36] <jim> i dont have apple
#2159 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Did you pay for minecraft?
#2160 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Did you pay for minecraft?
#2161 [19:37] <montezuma> not yet. i ttry to play the old version now. if i fix it i get the new version(the payed one)
#2162 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Then you pirated minecraft. Why do you think we'll help with such matters?
#2163 [19:37] <montezuma> no i'm trying to play the old version
#2164 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> The old version? The classic one from minecraft.net/classic/play?
#2165 [19:38] <montezuma> yes that one
#2166 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser then.
#2167 [19:38] <montezuma> ok wait for a moment
#2168 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Chrome works on Macs, as well as Firefox, and opera
#2169 [19:39] <montezuma> the same thing happened i was trying Firefox and Safari.
#2170 [19:40] <montezuma> hello
#2171 [19:40] <montezuma> grey vulpin?
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#2173 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> You know, classic hasn't worked on macs for a few months now.
#2174 [19:40] <hmw> that sounds somewhat stupid "If you make program A work, you will be given program B". Is there a chance, that 1.0.0 will automatically function, if he manages to run classic? I mean, because Notch.
#2175 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> hmw - Nope
#2176 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> classic and premium are completely different in the back end.
#2177 [19:40] <Prince_Kit> can anyone walk me through making a server?
#2178 [19:40] <hmw> Prince_Kit: download software, click it.
#2179 [19:41] <montezuma> o.o but-t how do i play then?????????
#2180 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Determine whether you want a vanilla or modded server, download appropriate software, run it.
#2181 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Pay for minecraft or don't play at all
#2182 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Or get a different computer
#2183 [19:41] <montezuma> what i just wanted the old version
#2184 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> The old version doesn't run on macs
#2185 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Hasn't run on macs for months
#2186 [19:42] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - how do i actually set it up so people can join it?
#2187 [19:42] <montezuma> if i get the new version and it still doesn't work can i get a refund?
#2188 [19:42] <Omega_Guardian> even the most current version? I'd figure it would still
#2189 [19:42] <hmw> Prince_Kit: usually just by starting the program. Do you have a router in your LAN?
#2190 [19:42] <Omega_Guardian> mayve Apple decided to not bother keeping up to date with Java?
#2191 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support --> payment -> refund.
#2192 [19:43] <Prince_Kit> hmw - how do i check if i have a router in the LAN?
#2193 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kitn - What operating system are you on/.
#2194 [19:43] <hmw> montezuma: Notch stated, that they will give refunds, but only if the game was bought "recently"
#2195 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> hmw - That policy was changed at the start of the year..
#2196 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> See minecraft.net/support -> payment -> refund
#2197 [19:43] <hmw> GreyVulpine: oh. so what is it now?
#2198 [19:44] <hmw> I mean, in my country i could sue them, if the program wouldnt work
#2199 [19:44] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - the comp i'm setting up the server on is running win7
#2200 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Do you have physical access to that machine right now?
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#2202 [19:45] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - yes
#2203 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Head to the start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#2204 [19:45] <Spectob> ok back
#2205 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - at the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
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#2207 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Look for the ipv4 address. If it starts with 192.168.x.y, or 10.x..y.z, you're behind a ruoter
#2208 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> bleh, router*
#2209 [19:45] <Omega_Guardian> maybe see if anyone has Minecraft that works on a Mac? Java supposed to be cross-platform
#2210 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft premium will work on macs, classic, hasn't been working for a few months now
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#2212 [19:46] <montezuma> thank you GreyVulpine you helped me a lot.
#2213 [19:46] <Omega_Guardian> ah okies
#2214 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Didn't really do anything, but alright.
#2215 [19:47] <montezuma> :D:D:D:D:D
#2216 [19:47] <hmw> god, that's greedy- the guy made millions and refuses to do refunds if people cant play?
#2217 [19:48] <Spectob> ok so i did the black window thing with the prompts and stuff but it closed MC and i closed it.. now wha
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#2219 [19:48] <montezuma> soif the new version doesn't work either it sais that it should be a minor probleme so i might be back
#2220 [19:48] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - it says 2001:o:4137:9e76:30b1:1f97:e7a6:9ce7
#2221 [19:48] <Spectob> well technicly its not his problem
#2222 [19:48] <Spectob> its jebs now
#2223 [19:48] <Spectob> :/
#2224 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - I.. was looking for the ipv4 address, not ipv6
#2225 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Before you closed the command prompt, did the cmd prompt say anything?
#2226 [19:49] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - how do i check ipv4 then?
#2227 [19:49] <Spectob> hmm it said"press any button to continue"
#2228 [19:49] <Spectob> thats what i remember
#2229 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - ipconfig should be returning an ipv4 thing as wel
#2230 [19:49] <montezuma> ok bye. if it sais i quit it's not true i got helped a lot.
#2231 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - could you please run the .bat file again. Don't close it this time.
#2232 [19:49] <Spectob> ok
#2233 [19:50] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - there is no ipv4
#2234 [19:50] <Spectob> ok its running
#2235 [19:50] <Spectob> ok its done
#2236 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Where is this server located, your house? a data center?
#2237 [19:50] <Prince_Kit> house
#2238 [19:50] <hmw> windows7 in a data center?
#2239 [19:50] <jim> GreyVulpine i did everything you said and i couldnt run minecraft error report link here:http://mibpaste.com/TE1Fis here is the error report i gave you the dxdiag of my old computer i want to update the video card drive
#2240 [19:51] <jim> http://pastebin.com/f4jRdLSE
#2241 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> hmw - Could be colocated, dunno
#2242 [19:51] <Spectob> it says"[error occured during error reporting, id 0xc0000005]
#2243 [19:51] <Spectob> whoa
#2244 [19:51] <hmw> GreyVulpine: sure, your question was legit. But it's very unlikely that someone uses a rented server without knowing about port forwarding, i guess :-)
#2245 [19:52] <Spectob> errorception
#2246 [19:52] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2246 [19:52] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - located at my house
#2247 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> We've had some.. people who've bought *nix vps, without knowing a single thing about *nix commands
#2248 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Nothing surprises me in here anymore
#2249 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Okay, tell me what the field above Subnet is, in ipconfig?
#2250 [19:53] <Spectob> ok so it has all this error items after the recipies and the setting user
#2251 [19:54] <Spectob> is there any way Teamviewer would help
#2252 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Right click on the cmd window, select "Mark", click and drag a box around all the text, then right click again. This copies the text. Paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2253 [19:54] <jim> AuBot how are you a bot?
#2254 [19:55] <Spectob> http://mibpaste.com/7arZqS
#2255 [19:55] <Spectob> there
#2256 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Could you also give me the error report at C:\Users\HITT\Downloads\MC JAR\hs_err_pid6992.log
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#2259 [19:56] <Spectob> the first one?
#2260 [19:56] <Spectob> i sent?
#2261 [19:56] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - the ipv4 address, 172.18.136.15
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#2263 [19:57] <mib_1pbe3g> My Minecraft Says Can't Connect to Minecraft.net
#2264 [19:57] <mib_1pbe3g> On My desktop
#2265 [19:57] <mib_1pbe3g> And It Doesn't Show the News
#2266 [19:57] <mib_1pbe3g> tfrom Minecraft.net website
#2267 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What version of java do you run?
#2268 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What operating system are you on?
#2269 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What security software do you run?
#2270 [19:57] <mib_1pbe3g> uh I have a 64 bit
#2271 [19:57] <Spectob> Grey is it the first error i sent you?
#2272 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What kind of computer do you have?
#2273 [19:58] <mib_1pbe3g> alien
#2274 [19:58] <mib_1pbe3g> Ware m14x
#2275 [19:58] <Spectob> whoa.. nice
#2276 [19:58] <mib_1pbe3g> yep
#2277 [19:58] <mib_1pbe3g> so
#2278 [19:58] <Prince_Kit> dannng
#2279 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Hmm... it's showing me your intel video chipset drivers at fault. Do you know how to update them?
#2280 [19:58] <mib_1pbe3g> no
#2281 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - So.
#2282 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What
#2283 [19:58] <Spectob> hmm not really
#2284 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - operating
#2285 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - system
#2286 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - do
#2287 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - you have?
#2288 [19:58] <Spectob> lol
#2289 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> me?
#2290 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Yes
#2291 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - You
#2292 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> ok
#2293 [19:59] <hmw> <>< ?
#2294 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> 64 bit AlienWare m14x
#2295 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> 8Gb of Ram
#2296 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Love how you don't answer the question at all.
#2297 [19:59] <Spectob> he means as in windows..ect
#2298 [19:59] <hmw> mib_1pbe3g: Windows 7 ??
#2299 [19:59] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - according to the ipv4 i'm not behind a router. so how do i set it up so me and my friend can minecraft together?
#2300 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> 750GB of Ram
#2301 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> yes windows
#2302 [19:59] <mib_1pbe3g> t7
#2303 [20:00] <hmw> Prince_Kit: did you already try to run the server?
#2304 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - What's the default gateway address?
#2305 [20:00] <mib_1pbe3g> mine uh....
#2306 [20:00] <Spectob> ok i am going to (try to) up date my drivers
#2307 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> ??> Spectob gpu/intel
#2308 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Spectob: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2309 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Try the intel driver update utility
#2310 [20:01] <mib_1pbe3g> 192.168.1.254
#2311 [20:01] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - it ran as percentages as soon as it was open, then it was up
#2312 [20:01] <mib_1pbe3g> Thats my Ip
#2313 [20:01] <Spectob> ive done this before.. but in team viewer
#2314 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Prince_Kit says that ip address the computer has, is 172.18.136.15, but Prince_Kit's current public ip address is 72.182.61.162
#2315 [20:01] <Spectob> with another person from here
#2316 [20:01] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - i'm helping a friend
#2317 [20:02] <hmw> Prince_Kit: what exactly is the problem?
#2318 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Oooo... now you tell me.
#2319 [20:02] <mib_1pbe3g> The Problem is....
#2320 [20:02] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - you helped her yesterday
#2321 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Then you can use 172.18.136.15 in the client to connect to that server
#2322 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> I've helped many a persons in here.
#2323 [20:02] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - so type that in and i should connect?
#2324 [20:02] <mib_1pbe3g> that my Minecraft on my desktop can't connect to the minecraft new or connect to minecraft.net
#2325 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Should..
#2326 [20:02] <mib_1pbe3g> news*
#2327 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Has it ever worked before?
#2328 [20:03] <mib_1pbe3g> no
#2329 [20:03] <mib_1pbe3g> Just Got My AlienWare
#2330 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Where the news feed should be, what does it actually say?
#2331 [20:03] <hmw> Prince_Kit: what exactly is the problem? Did your friend even try to start the server software??
#2332 [20:03] <Spectob> hey grey... im not sure what to do someone did this in team viewer but it was kinda fast...
#2333 [20:03] <mib_1pbe3g> It Says a code
#2334 [20:03] <mib_1pbe3g> like....
#2335 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Please paste that here
#2336 [20:03] <mib_1pbe3g> uh i can't copy it
#2337 [20:03] <Prince_Kit> hmw - i couldn't connect with the stuff she gave me, but i didn't have her ip, so that's probably why
#2338 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - You.. can't?
#2339 [20:04] <mib_1pbe3g> should i just
#2340 [20:04] <mib_1pbe3g> tno
#2341 [20:04] <mib_1pbe3g> tno
#2342 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Do you have java 6 or 7 installed? You can find out from here:
#2343 [20:04] <hmw> Prince_Kit: it's probably easier, if you made your friend join this IRC channel
#2344 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_1pbe3g java/version
#2345 [20:04] <VoxelHead> mib_1pbe3g: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2346 [20:04] <VoxelHead> mib_1pbe3g: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2347 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> Version 6 Update 29
#2348 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - What antivirus or security software do your un?
#2349 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> uh nothing right now
#2350 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> tgoing to do Norton
#2351 [20:05] <Spectob> HMW
#2352 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> HMW/
#2353 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> t?
#2354 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#2355 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> no
#2356 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> like ?
#2357 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> Brendan!
#2358 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2359 [20:05] <mib_1pbe3g> tno
#2360 [20:06] <mib_1pbe3g> sorry I keep pressing t
#2361 [20:06] <mib_1pbe3g> like minecraft
#2362 [20:06] <Spectob> lol
#2363 [20:06] <hmw> is there a list of VoxelHead's commands?
#2364 [20:06] <mib_1pbe3g> lolz
#2365 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> hmw - yeah, ??< index
#2366 [20:06] <hmw> ??< index
#2367 [20:06] <hmw> thx
#2368 [20:06] <Spectob> im not sure what to do..:s
#2369 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - go to intel's website:
#2370 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> Spectob gpu/intel
#2371 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Spectob: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2372 [20:07] <Spectob> ok i there wait
#2373 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Use the intel driver update utility to scan your system
#2374 [20:07] <Spectob> i se somthing
#2375 [20:07] <Spectob> ok thats what i saw :/
#2376 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Download any graphics drivers it says you need, and install them
#2377 [20:07] <mib_1pbe3g> k
#2378 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Those instructions weren't for you
#2379 [20:07] <mib_1pbe3g> what
#2380 [20:07] <Spectob> im never going to download any mod by my self again
#2381 [20:08] <mib_1pbe3g> the intel video cards?
#2382 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Could you go to your start menu -> control panel -> programs and features.
#2383 [20:08] <Spectob> im just gonna use Skydaz installers
#2384 [20:08] <Prince_Kit> hmw - when i try connecting with the server it says that it can't reach
#2385 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Look for anything that says Java there, make sure Java 7 is not listed
#2386 [20:08] <mib_1pbe3g> ok
#2387 [20:08] <Spectob> its installing
#2388 [20:08] <hmw> Prince_Kit: it would be much easier if we could talk to your friend directly
#2389 [20:08] <mib_1pbe3g> its not there just the java control panal
#2390 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - Do you have the Programs and features control panel up?
#2391 [20:09] <mib_1pbe3g> yes
#2392 [20:09] <mib_1pbe3g> up?
#2393 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_1pbe3g - in that list of programs that are installed on your computer, tell me what java is listed there
#2394 [20:09] <mib_1pbe3g> Java 6 And 7
#2395 [20:09] <mib_1pbe3g> LOl
#2396 [20:10] <mib_1pbe3g> wow
#2397 [20:10] <mib_1pbe3g> uh
#2398 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to cause problems like this. Please uninstall it
#2399 [20:10] <mib_1pbe3g> k
#2400 [20:10] <mib_1pbe3g> doing it now
#2401 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft again when you've finished
#2402 [20:10] <Spectob> still installing
#2403 [20:12] <mib_1pbe3g> ok
#2404 [20:12] <mib_1pbe3g> done
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#2406 [20:12] <mib_1pbe3g> I Love You So..... MUCH THANKS
#2407 [20:12] <mib_1pbe3g> NO HOMO
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#2409 [20:13] <Spectob> STILL DOWNNNNNNNNNNNN LOADDDDDDDDDDdddiNG!!1
#2410 [20:13] <mib_1pbe3g> Thanks Bye
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#2413 [20:15] <mib_3nw7sn> im having trouble launching mincraft. help?
#2414 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try?
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#2416 [20:16] <mib_3nw7sn> the narmal window exept the news part is all gray exept for some code at the top
#2417 [20:16] <zucchini> jh\
#2418 [20:16] <Prince_Kit> hmw - what is it we have to do then?
#2419 [20:16] <Spectob> intel drivers Y U NO FINISH INSTALLING!
#2420 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_3nw7sn - copy and paste the code here
#2421 [20:16] <sockmister> hi when i try to play the free single version it says it canot load the applet and will not let me contiue it is called fatal error (4)
#2422 [20:16] <hmw> find out her IP address, make sure a possibly neccessary port forward is established and also if she even started the program
#2423 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - The outdated classic one?
#2424 [20:17] <sockmister> yes
#2425 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - I need to know the full error text. There's more text after the (4)
#2426 [20:17] <hmw> Prince_Kit: ^
#2427 [20:17] <zucchini> everytime go to minecraft classic single player it says cant input streem fatal error(4) cant input steem lwjgl_jar.pack.applet
#2428 [20:17] <hmw> sockmister: what OS are you using?
#2429 [20:18] <Prince_Kit> hmw - how do we check the port thing>
#2430 [20:18] <sockmister> unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#2431 [20:18] <zucchini> yes
#2432 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> That error usually stems from your security software blocking the lwjgl from downloading
#2433 [20:18] <hmw> Prince_Kit: you log into the router and add a port forward rule. how depends on what router she has.
#2434 [20:18] <sockmister> how do i fix it?
#2435 [20:18] <zucchini> how can i take that off
#2436 [20:18] <Prince_Kit> hmw - no router
#2437 [20:18] <zucchini> ?
#2438 [20:18] <hmw> Prince_Kit: then I dont know. it's as easy as doubleclicking the server program
#2439 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> There's hundreds of security packages out there, each with their own user interface, I couldn't begin to tell you exactly how to turn off your specific security software
#2440 [20:19] <Prince_Kit> hmw - but then on my end i can't reach it
#2441 [20:19] <zucchini> okay do you know if it would be a setting or something?
#2442 [20:19] <hmw> Prince_Kit: you could try to disable her firewall, perhaps it's blocking the server
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#2444 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - again, each security software has their own settings, there's no overarching command to turn it off that works in all programs
#2445 [20:20] <mib_3nw7sn> <html><body>font color='808080"?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>failed to update news<br>java.netconnectexeption: connection timed our:connect</ceneter></font></body></html>
#2446 [20:20] <sockmister> wekll hiw do i even get to to take it off
#2447 [20:20] <Seikojin> Can I use batch files to launch mincraft.jar on windows, instead of using the .exe
#2448 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_3nw7sn - Your security software is blocking it
#2449 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Seikojin - Yes
#2450 [20:20] <Seikojin> Do you have a sample I can copy?
#2451 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh -- configure the -Xms and -Xmx arguments to suit your tastes
#2452 [20:21] <Seikojin> Thank you very much
#2453 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> that pastebin currently runs minecraft at 256megs
#2454 [20:21] <mib_3nw7sn> thanks bye
#2455 [20:21] <Seikojin> Again, thanks
#2456 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Again, I don't know what security software you have. Check your system tray near your clock.
#2457 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> You can try right clicking on it to bring up its control panel, or look for options
#2458 [20:22] <Prince_Kit> hmw - it still says i can't reach
#2459 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Do other servers work for you? Could you try connecting to "s.nerd.nu" in your client?
#2460 [20:22] <hmw> i cant debug through you. either she comes back here or i have to give up.
#2461 [20:23] <Prince_Kit> it connected really quick
#2462 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Then she's got some sort of security software or firewall she forgot to let MC traffic through?
#2463 [20:23] <gamergirl2000> i have just closed all my security software
#2464 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Check windows firewall, check any other security software that has an internet security/firewall component
#2465 [20:24] <Prince_Kit> she turned firewall off
#2466 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> What firewall does she run?
#2467 [20:25] <gamergirl2000> i was using comodo security
#2468 [20:25] <gamergirl2000> i have also turned off windows firewall
#2469 [20:25] <Spectob> OK! well every things good except
#2470 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> I've had people with problems that have had comodo firewall in here before. Turning it off doesn't actually turn it off. At least two people needed to uninstall it completely
#2471 [20:26] <Spectob> wireless networking? wth?
#2472 [20:26] <Prince_Kit> greyvulpine - whaaaa
#2473 [20:26] <Spectob> Greyvulpine should i go ahead and update it?
#2474 [20:26] <Prince_Kit> GreyVulpine - can't she get a virus from that?
#2475 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> No
#2476 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Comodo firewall does nothing against virii
#2477 [20:27] <Prince_Kit> i mean.. i'm safe cause i run mac
#2478 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> It's not an antivirus.
#2479 [20:27] <Prince_Kit> oh ok
#2480 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - nah
#2481 [20:27] <Spectob> ok
#2482 [20:28] <Spectob> so now what
#2483 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Spectob - Run minecraft?
#2484 [20:28] <Spectob> well here goes
#2485 [20:28] <Spectob> *silent prayer
#2486 [20:29] <Spectob> may the lord be with me :O
#2487 [20:30] <Prince_Kit> Spectob - May the force be with you
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#2489 [20:30] <Spectob> Grey
#2490 [20:31] <Spectob> ..
#2491 [20:31] <OneHitCombo> Uh.. Hello?
#2492 [20:31] <Spectob> umm
#2493 [20:31] <Spectob> IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THNX MAN!
#2494 [20:31] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2494 [20:32] * Spectob gives a whoop
#2494 [20:32] <Spectob> WHOOP
#2495 [20:32] <Spectob> ok ill see ya!
#2496 [20:32] <Spectob> thnx baI!
#2497 [20:32] <OneHitCombo> Im trying to get help with the - Fatal error (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack.
#2498 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Usually means that your security software is blocking java from downloading lwjgl.
#2499 [20:33] <OneHitCombo> So.. I kill my virus protection?
#2500 [20:33] <OneHitCombo> Cool.
#2501 [20:33] <Omega_Guardian> how about trying to download it directly?
#2502 [20:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#2502 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> doesn't really work all that well
#2503 [20:34] <OneHitCombo> Thanks. Let me just disable it and see how it works.
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#2505 [20:36] <OneHitCombo> Nope. Same error.
#2506 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Hm. Others have reported success by uninstalling and reinstalling java, or by clearing your browser's cache/temp files
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#2508 [20:38] <Prince_Kit> if i run a mac and don't have minecraft in my applications folder, can i still make a server?
#2509 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2510 [20:38] <Prince_Kit> but it said not enough memory
#2511 [20:39] <OneHitCombo> Trying that now.
#2512 [20:39] <Scott> the server and client are entirely different.
#2513 [20:39] <mib_fgwrql> im trying to get minecraft working on my comp without a graphics card it laged terable i put in a graphics card today and now it runs great for two minutes then Im sitting at the desk top
#2514 [20:40] <mib_fgwrql> i was in here earlier and was told to go to skydaz.com
#2515 [20:40] <Scott> We don't support mods at all here so I have no idea why you would be sent there.
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#2517 [20:41] <mib_fgwrql> i got the optifine and it told me i needed v4.0.30319 to use it i got that and installed optifine but still have 2 minute sesions
#2518 [20:41] <Prince_Kit> greyvulpine - it says it's out of memory
#2519 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - How are you launching minecraft_server?
#2520 [20:42] <mib_fgwrql> i downloaded it and it was sent into downloads i double click it in that folder
#2521 [20:42] <Prince_Kit> greyvulpine - as the .jar
#2522 [20:43] <mib_fgwrql> ill look and see if it has a jar extention brb
#2523 [20:43] <reedlepee> just paid for full version and found that my e-mail is wrong should be .ca not .com what can I do/
#2524 [20:43] <Scott> You can't change your email at this time.
#2525 [20:43] <mib_fgwrql> it is an exe
#2526 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Prince_Kit - Follow the instructions from: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Mac_OS_X_Instructions
#2527 [20:43] <hmw> mib_fgwrql: what do you mean Minecraft without graphics card? A server?
#2528 [20:44] <reedlepee> how do I get it to work then
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#2530 [20:45] <Damein> hey can anyone log onto minecraft.net my friend can log on to the downloaded game with the same user and pass but when he types it in minecraft.net it says it is wrong
#2531 [20:46] <hmw> Damein: perhaps he didn't pay or his payment has not yet been processed?
#2532 [20:46] <OneHitCombo> Trying to uninstall java and reinstall it.
#2533 [20:46] <Damein> no he has been playing for awhile i can get onto it from mine with teamviewer strange sorry dumb question
#2534 [20:47] <hmw> Damein: oh it's the other way around, weird... make your friend delete cookies
#2535 [20:47] <mib_fgwrql> i tried to run it and found that it laged terable so i put a graphics card in and it runs great but throws me out after 2 mins
#2536 [20:47] <Damein> kk ty
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#2538 [20:48] <hmw> mib_fgwrql: I see, you were using the on-board graphics card before.
#2539 [20:49] <mib_fgwrql> i guess all i had was an open slot
#2540 [20:49] <reedlepee> i paid but my verification code went to a none existing e-mail HELP
#2541 [20:49] <hmw> mib_fgwrql: what OS? 32/64bit? How much RAM? What you can do: Check for up-to-date Java version (don't use v7, use the latest v6.x), update GPU drivers, reinstall the game.
#2542 [20:50] <hmw> mib_fgwrql: you should copy my text line to a notepad, so I won't have to type it all again
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#2544 [20:51] <mib_fgwrql> windows vista home premium , 32 bit , 2045MB ram , and i just downloaded the java that it put up when i downloaded thegame
#2545 [20:53] <Damein> c
#2546 [20:54] <hmw> when I log into that server, I keep falling and I die, before i can tp myself to a safe location... anything, I could do? I can't even talk to the mods, because it says "title screen" after one second
#2547 [20:55] <Prince_Kit> does anyone have a server and run mac?
#2548 [20:58] <Prince_Kit> can anyone make a server for us?
#2549 [20:59] <hmw> Prince_Kit: you could log into one of the bazillion public servers
#2550 [20:59] <Prince_Kit> but in those when we destroy something it respawns and we get nothing
#2551 [21:00] <hmw> thats only if you are in a 30m radius of the spawn area
#2552 [21:00] <Prince_Kit> really?
#2553 [21:00] <hmw> really.
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#2556 [21:02] <Damein> hey why is it when i open up google chrome it doesnt take me to google.ca?
#2557 [21:02] <Damein> do i need to change my homepage
#2558 [21:02] <Damein> cunt
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#2561 [21:05] <Reinz> Hi im having trouble with my minecraft client, when I try to launch it, it says Java virtual machine failed to load.. can anyone helP?
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#2564 [21:09] <JD429> Can anyone tell me why the mIneCraft Launcher wont apper?
#2565 [21:10] <Reinz> dont think so.
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#2567 [21:11] <mom> I am having trouble downloading Minecraft. Keeps saying drive is bad. any help is appreciated.
#2568 [21:13] <mom> is anyone there???????
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#2573 [21:15] <jbaz> ok so i just bought this game but i cant play it its been over two hours sence i bought it and i cant play it... what is the problem?
#2574 [21:16] <mom> same here jbaz...it won't let my son play either...
#2575 [21:16] <jbaz> is there a number or something that i can call and talk to a rep. or something
#2576 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't offer any toll-free number, or live support.
#2577 [21:17] <rev-lemon> mom whats the exact error of this drive is bad ?, do you know how to find out how much space on the c: is ?
#2578 [21:17] <jbaz> no
#2579 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> jbaz - What error do you get when you try to launch it?
#2580 [21:17] <mom> I have no idea...
#2581 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> mom - tell us exactly what the error says.
#2582 [21:18] <jbaz> is it possible to get my money back
#2583 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support -- Payment -> refund
#2584 [21:19] <hmw> "We care about you" that's an euphemism
#2585 [21:20] <jbaz> did you get an email from them thats what i was told that you have to confirm your email but i didnt get one
#2586 [21:20] <DreadLindwyrm> jbaz - what username did you choose?
#2587 [21:20] <jbaz> why do you need to know that
#2588 [21:20] <mom> ok hold on....
#2589 [21:21] <DreadLindwyrm> We have a way to check if the mojang servers are aware you have paid.
#2590 [21:21] <jbaz> how do you do that
#2591 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> !paid GreyVulpine
#2592 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> !paid thispersonhasnotpaid
#2593 [21:22] <jbaz> i paid
#2594 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Prove it. Call up your bank or credit card, ask them for a history or record of payment going to Mojang AB.
#2595 [21:23] <DreadLindwyrm> It is a check to see if the server is aware of this, as if not the payment might be "in transit" to Mojang.
#2596 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> You can then forward that to Mojang as proof of payment via minecraft.net/support
#2597 [21:24] <jbaz> is "minecraft" a legit game or did i get ripped off
#2598 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Over 4 million people have paid for minecraft. myself included
#2599 [21:25] <DreadLindwyrm> It is a legit game. Sometimes it takes time for the server to know you have paid.
#2600 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> It's on Time's #1 best game of 2011
#2601 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2101344_2101197_2101198,00.html
#2602 [21:25] <jbaz> if it is the best fame then why do the have crapy service
#2603 [21:25] <jbaz> game*
#2604 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Just because your bank can't get the money to mojang fast enough, isn't mojang's fault
#2605 [21:26] <mau5ie|Away> GreyVulpine++
#2606 [21:26] <DreadLindwyrm> Just a check here, where did you try to get it? Was it http://minecraft.net ?
#2607 [21:27] <jbaz> i bought i debit card just for this game i didnt go through my bank it was a walmart money card
#2608 [21:27] <Scott> That is probably why then....
#2609 [21:27] <jbaz> it with*
#2610 [21:27] <Scott> Those prepaid cards block international payments.
#2611 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2612 [21:27] <Scott> Until you verify your identity.
#2613 [21:27] <jbaz> i dont understand
#2614 [21:27] <Scott> It's part of a US law that prevents people from purchasing stuff to make bombs etc and being untraceable.
#2615 [21:28] <Scott> They will require information such as your legal name, date of birth, social security number, etc.
#2616 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> jbaz - Prepaid cards are subject to fraud protection. You usually cannot use prepaid cards to make international purchases. Mojang is a company based in Sweden, thus, an international payment is needed to purchase minecraft.
#2617 [21:29] <jbaz> so how do i get my money back from them:
#2618 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Call up your prepaid card's customer service number to talk to a representative.
#2619 [21:29] <jbaz> ?*
#2620 [21:29] <mom> ok rev-lemon the message reads .....Bad video card drivers...Minecraft was unable to start because if failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode ------Begin Error report 7fe 0271-------
#2621 [21:29] <Scott> Your money was likely never sent to Mojang.
#2622 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> jbaz - The card never sent the money to Mojang in the first place
#2623 [21:29] <Scott> If anything, it was an authorization charge and that's it.
#2624 [21:30] <mom> so what do I need to do to get this game up and running//
#2625 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> mom - Are you running a windows machine?
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#2627 [21:30] <mom> yes windows 7 I believe...its an hp 2010i
#2628 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> mom - Alright. Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar at the bottom, type in: dxdiag
#2629 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up the directx diagnostic console. Tell me when you have that pulled up
#2630 [21:31] <mizuumi> Is anyone else having issues buying the game? I'm trying to buy a giftcode for my sister and it keeps giving me errors.
#2631 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> mizuumi - What errors?
#2632 [21:32] <mizuumi> Either card errors or a generic issue with the site that hosts the transactions. Let me try it again and copy and paste error.
#2633 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> mizuumi - Usually, people report better success if they purchased it from paypal rather than moneybookers or some other payment service. What did you use?
#2634 [21:33] <mizuumi> I was using Visa, because I was unsure with Paypal, since the price was in Euros instead of dollars.
#2635 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Paypal does conversions automatically for you, with no fee charged
#2636 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> I would recommend using paypal, personally.
#2637 [21:34] <mizuumi> Oh okay, let me try paypal then.
#2638 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> mom - Still there? Got that dxdiag window open?
#2639 [21:36] <mizuumi> It was cheaper with Visa lol. But it seems to have worked. Thank you.
#2640 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> 15 euros converts to about 27 dollars USD
#2641 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> It's the same price
#2642 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> er, 19 euros, sorry
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#2644 [21:36] <mizuumi> It was an extra dollar. But the conversion had a bunch of decimals, so I wouldn't be surprised if it added a 1
#2645 [21:37] <mom> GreyVulpine this is what I pulled up typing in dxdiag in start menu: Documents (1) 2010-08-13 22.41.43 MURPHY-HP B 16223 crash DxDiag and Pictures (1) 2010-8-13 22.41.43 MURPHY-HP b16223 DxDiag
#2646 [21:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#2646 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> mom - Press enter after putting in dxdiag in the search bar
#2647 [21:37] <mom> o...sorry..hold on...
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#2650 [21:44] <mom> ok GreyVulpine I put dxdiag in search bar...its asking me a yes or no question: Do you want to check if your drivers are digitally signed. To check drivers, Windows might connect to the internet , but doesnt send personal information about you to computer.
#2651 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Say No.
#2652 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> mom - There, you should see a button in the lower right, labeled "save all information", please press that, and save the document on your desktop.
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#2654 [21:48] <mom> GreyVulpine I didnt save any of that it just start running and now its in my windows as info saved...what do I do now/
#2655 [21:48] <mib_qithn5> so i got minecraft from a friend, but how do i update to 1.0 if I haven't purchased it yet?
#2656 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_qithn5 - You pay for an account.
#2657 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> We do not support people sharing accounts here
#2658 [21:49] <mib_qithn5> well thanks anyways
#2659 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> mom - Please close down the dxdiag window, and go back to your desktop where you saved the document. Open up the dxdiag.txt file.
#2660 [21:50] <mom> ok nevermind it let me save all information. what now/
#2661 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> mom - Please copy everything inside (edit -> select all, edit -> copy), go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it in the text box there below "Create new paste".
#2662 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Press the submit button beneath it, then give us the new http://www.pastebin.com link at the top of your browser's address bar.
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#2668 [21:56] <Reinz> Hi im having trouble with my minecraft client, when I try to launch it, it says Java virtual machine failed to load.. can anyone helP?
#2669 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall java
#2670 [21:57] <flash1133> hey grey im back
#2671 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2672 [21:58] <flash1133> u kno any good rank plugins for bukkit?
#2673 [21:58] <[L]> Zip
#2674 [21:58] <[L]> Ask for plugibns at #bukkit
#2675 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't touched a bukkit server setup for months
#2676 [21:58] <flash1133> ok
#2677 [22:00] <mau5ie> PermissionsEx
#2678 [22:00] <mau5ie> flash1133 ^
#2679 [22:00] <flash1133> yea?
#2680 [22:01] <flash1133> yeah mau5ie
#2681 [22:01] <mom> GreyVulpine I edit then did all the other steps...where would I find the http: at/
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#2683 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> mom - In your browser's address bar, the same place where you put in any web address
#2684 [22:04] <mom> i dont know what you mean /
#2685 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> You're in a browser right now, yes?
#2686 [22:05] <mom> i got this window open and the pastebin one open
#2687 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Alright. At the top of the pastebin window, you should see an http:// address. Please copy the address after you submitted the paste to pastebin
#2688 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> It should say something like http://www.pastebin.com/AS3as32t
#2689 [22:07] <mom> GreyVulpine this is what it reads pastebin.com/KvCGSqzD
#2690 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Great. One moment while I read that over
#2691 [22:08] <mom> ok
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#2693 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> mom - You're running a ATI Radeon HD 4350 video card on Windows 7, 64 bit. The drivers you want to download and install are located here: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#2694 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> mom - Use the download button next to the "Catalyst Software Suite" title
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#2698 [22:12] <mom> so i just download http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx then download Catalyst Software Suite..then I should be able to play the game/
#2699 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> After downloading it, you'll need to install it. It'll go through a process of installing new video drivers for your system. It will probably ask you to reboot your machine afterwards. Please do so. You can then try minecraft when that's done
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#2701 [22:15] <mom> ok thanks GreyVulpine ..if it doesnt work I will be back again asking for your help.
#2702 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> We'll be here.
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#2704 [22:19] <mom> ok GreyVulpine it didnt ask me to reboot ...it just downloaded it in my windows. do I just try and play the game now??
#2705 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> You should run the installer file you downloaded.
#2706 [22:19] <mom> ok
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#2708 [22:25] <mib_dlsbbx> when i try to update minecraft, it has an error retrieving files.
#2709 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact error?
#2710 [22:25] <mib_dlsbbx> 4 i think
#2711 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you please give us the full text of the error?
#2712 [22:26] <mib_dlsbbx> one second, i'm waiting for it to come up again
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#2714 [22:28] <mom> ok so GreyVulpine i installed it and it still didnt reboot. is that normal or should it have rebooted?
#2715 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> I would reboot anyways, then try minecraft
#2716 [22:28] <mib_dlsbbx> "Fatal error occured (4): Connection reset
#2717 [22:28] <mib_dlsbbx> "
#2718 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - Is this on the classic or premium version of minecraft?
#2719 [22:29] <mom> ok thanks once again for your help. I will sign off for now. thanks again GreyVulpine
#2720 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> mom - Glad to be of service.
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#2722 [22:30] <flash1133> how do i port forward using my IP?
#2723 [22:30] <mib_dlsbbx> not sure where does it say?
#2724 [22:30] <flash1133> i kno i put my IP in as a url at the top of browser
#2725 [22:30] <flash1133> but after that im confused
#2726 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - What operating system are you on?
#2727 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - Did you pay for the game?
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#2729 [22:31] <flash1133> my router or computer?
#2730 [22:31] <mib_dlsbbx> yes
#2731 [22:31] <flash1133> Belkin Windows 7
#2732 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - Then you're probably using the downloaded launcher, which is the premium version
#2733 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#2734 [22:31] <flash1133> ok
#2735 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - AT the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#2736 [22:31] <flash1133> kk
#2737 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Telll me your ipv4 address and default gateway addresses
#2738 [22:31] <flash1133> ok
#2739 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to say ok after every line
#2740 [22:32] <mib_dlsbbx> yep
#2741 [22:32] <cornelius> I get an error when I start the game
#2742 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - What security software do you run?
#2743 [22:32] <mib_dlsbbx> AVG
#2744 [22:32] <flash1133> IP4 is 192.168.2.6 and Default Getaway is 192.168.2.1
#2745 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - What is the error? Do you get any error messages? Any files named hs_Err_pid?
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#2747 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - Could you attempt to turn off avg, or at least the linkscanner portion of AVG? It's been known to block minecraft from downloading files
#2748 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Alright. Seems like you have two rourters, is that correct?
#2749 [22:33] <flash1133> yes
#2750 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Oh joy.
#2751 [22:33] <flash1133> i know my computer is hooked up to the .6
#2752 [22:33] <flash1133> in IP4
#2753 [22:34] <flash1133> and i know i get to the port frwarding area by typing my IP4 in the URL
#2754 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Your computer's internal ip address is 192.168.2.6. You'll need to go to 192.168.2.1 via you browser to configure port forwarding for the first router
#2755 [22:34] <flash1133> ok
#2756 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to tell the router to port forward port 25565/TCP to your 192.168.2.6 address
#2757 [22:34] <Elyk0304> "INTERNAL EXCEPTION: JAVA.NET.SOCKETTIMEOUTEXCEPTION: READ TIMED OUT" how can I fix this?
#2758 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - when do you get this?
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#2760 [22:34] <mib_dlsbbx> cool, that worked, thanks.
#2761 [22:34] <Elyk0304> Ill join a server
#2762 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_dlsbbx - Sure thing
#2763 [22:35] <Elyk0304> then practically fall through space
#2764 [22:35] <Elyk0304> or only a few objectgs
#2765 [22:35] <Elyk0304> are generated
#2766 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - Means either you, or the server's network has problems.
#2767 [22:35] <Elyk0304> and i get the error
#2768 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Could you attempt to connect to reddit's server at s.nerd.nu
#2769 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> If that works, then your server likely has connection issues
#2770 [22:35] <flash1133> ok i want to 192.168.2.1 in my browser and loggd in
#2771 [22:35] <minecrafter> I'm having problems with mc...
#2772 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Could you describe your problem in detail?
#2773 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Look for anywhere that says Port forwarding
#2774 [22:36] <minecrafter> yeah. hold on.
#2775 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - A great resource is portforward.com
#2776 [22:36] <Elyk0304> i can log on to reddit
#2777 [22:36] <minecrafter> the game launches and i log in. but after logging in before the mojang logo appears it gives me a black window.
#2778 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Check out: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7630-4/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2779 [22:37] <Elyk0304> will the server be the problem?
#2780 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - Then the server you were trying has connection problems. Nothing you can do about it
#2781 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Has it ever worked before?
#2782 [22:37] <minecrafter> the black screen doesnt go away and i cannot close the program either. It slows my pc down a lot
#2783 [22:37] <Elyk0304> will it fix itself?
#2784 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - All you can do is find a different server that doesn't have that issue.
#2785 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell you
#2786 [22:37] <minecrafter> it did one time. but it crashed after like 10 mins and it hasnt worked since
#2787 [22:37] <Elyk0304> after lookin online at several forums
#2788 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - What operating system are you on? Windows? mac? Linux?
#2789 [22:38] <Elyk0304> it seems like a good amount of people
#2790 [22:38] <Elyk0304> are having this issue
#2791 [22:38] <flash1133> waht do i do at that link you agve me?
#2792 [22:38] <minecrafter> Windows Xp.
#2793 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Follow those instructions to port forward in your belkin router.
#2794 [22:38] <flash1133> ok
#2795 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> It should have screenshots to tell you what you need to do in your router
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#2797 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Go to your start menu, in the run command, type in: %appdata%
#2798 [22:38] <Elyk0304> Is there no way to fix the server?
#2799 [22:39] <Elyk0304> It just seems too common of a prob
#2800 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, go inside to delete everything but the saves folder. Then run minecraft again
#2801 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - do you run the server?
#2802 [22:39] <Elyk0304> No i dont
#2803 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing you can do
#2804 [22:39] <minecrafter> type all of that? the *** mib_b756mt quit (Client Quit) part too?
#2805 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> The server owner likely is either running it off a crap connection, has a firewall set up that's filtering connections, or is running the server off an old computer that can't handle minecraft
#2806 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> None of those, you can fix, Elyk0304.
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#2808 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - No
#2809 [22:40] <Elyk0304> ?
#2810 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Go to your start menu, in the run command, type in: %appdata%
#2811 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, go inside to delete everything but the saves folder. Then run minecraft again
#2812 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - Like I said, there's nothing you can do about that other server. You don't have physical access to it
#2813 [22:40] <minecrafter> I have my appdata folder opened.
#2814 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Find the .minecraft folder, go inside to delete everything but the saves folder. Then run minecraft again
#2815 [22:41] <Elyk0304> what can the person who owns the server do?
#2816 [22:41] <mib_q0chcj> im trying to run the free version and it says there is an error
#2817 [22:41] <mib_q0chcj> what do i do?
#2818 [22:41] <flash1133> ok how can i check its working can someone join my server?
#2819 [22:41] <minecrafter> okay, I think ive tried this before, but i'll give it another shot. If i take a while to reply its because black window makes my pc lag horribly.
#2820 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Elyk0304 - I've told you the common causes of it. Either the computer they're running it on, is insufficient for the minecraft server, their network/internet is insufficient, or they have some sort of security software or firewall on the computer that's filtering connections
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#2822 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> There's tens, if not hundreds of thousands of minecraft servers out there.
#2823 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Each one, run by an individual that may be on a home connection, or colocated off a data center. There's no typical server
#2824 [22:43] <flash1133> how do i know my server is working?
#2825 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Did you run the server software?
#2826 [22:43] <flash1133> yes
#2827 [22:43] <flash1133> the bukkit i got before
#2828 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward your other router?
#2829 [22:44] <flash1133> yes
#2830 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Both times?
#2831 [22:44] <flash1133> it said i did anyways
#2832 [22:44] <flash1133> yes
#2833 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Then type !check
#2834 [22:44] <flash1133> ok
#2835 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Type !check here.
#2836 [22:44] <minecrafter> yeah.. the game updated it downloaded and updated then it black screened
#2837 [22:45] <flash1133> !check
#2838 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Doesn't look like it worked
#2839 [22:45] <flash1133> hmm
#2840 [22:45] <flash1133> i guess not
#2841 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - You were actually able to play minecraft once before on that computer?
#2842 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Got teamviewer?
#2843 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> I can remote in, check out your system for you
#2844 [22:46] <flash1133> ok
#2845 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> flash1133 teamviewer
#2846 [22:46] <VoxelHead> flash1133: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2847 [22:46] <VoxelHead> flash1133: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2848 [22:46] <flash1133> can you port forward for me?
#2849 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> If you get Teamviewer, yes.
#2850 [22:46] <flash1133> ok
#2851 [22:46] <flash1133> let me get it
#2852 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - You were actually able to play minecraft once before on that computer?
#2853 [22:46] <minecrafter> Pretty sure, I know that i can play it right now actually but i have to download the hd texture mod then hit test game then it will work but then crash in like 1 minute.
#2854 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Ah, mods are known to screw up minecraft if you install them incorrectly, or you have the wrong version of the mod
#2855 [22:47] <flash1133> can i just run it or do i have to install?
#2856 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> hence why I don't really support mods here
#2857 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - You can run it straight from the installer, no installation needed
#2858 [22:47] <flash1133> ok
#2859 [22:48] <minecrafter> ive uninstalled minecraft since the hd fix mod though.
#2860 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Are you still using the hd fix mod?
#2861 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Or the launcher for it?
#2862 [22:48] <minecrafter> nope
#2863 [22:48] <flash1133> ok what now i have an ID and a password
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#2865 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> To uninstall minecraft completely, go to %appdata%/.minecraft and delete everything there. Also, redownload the launcher from minecraft.net
#2866 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> This is the only way to be sure you're getting fresh, unmodified files for minecraft
#2867 [22:49] <minecrafter> the only think in my .minecraft folder right now is all the default vanilla files
#2868 [22:49] <minecrafter> thing*
#2869 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> minecrafter - Delete everything inside the .minecraft folder except for saves
#2870 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Make sure minecraft is not running
#2871 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - PM me the 9 digit ID, and 4 digit password
#2872 [22:49] <snapshotx> It's been awhile since I've played and it appears there's a problem with my account. I am getting an error when I try to reset my password
#2873 [22:49] <flash1133> do i give you my ID
#2874 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> snapshotx - What error is that?
#2875 [22:49] <minecrafter> yeah i tried that, It updates reinstalled and then blackscreened
#2876 [22:49] <flash1133> for TeamViewer
#2877 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - PM me the 9 digit ID, and 4 digit password
#2878 [22:50] <flash1133> ok how do i do that?
#2879 [22:50] <snapshotx> "Oops, an error occured This exception has been logged with id 68j8ehmkm."
#2880 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> /msg greyvulpine here
#2881 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> snapshotx - I.. have no idea what that error means. How are you getting that error, where are you getting that?
#2882 [22:51] <snapshotx> I go to the login screen
#2883 [22:51] <snapshotx> hit "forgot my password"
#2884 [22:51] <snapshotx> enter my username
#2885 [22:51] <snapshotx> I then get the error
#2886 [22:51] <flash1133> did u get that grey?
#2887 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#2888 [22:51] <flash1133> k
#2889 [22:51] <snapshotx> when I tried "forgot my username" and entered my email, I get "E-mail not on record"
#2890 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> snapshotx - What is your minecraft username?
#2891 [22:51] <snapshotx> snapshotx
#2892 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Very strange, I get the same error for your username
#2893 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> snapshotx - I'll PM you an email to contact.
#2894 [22:52] <snapshotx> thanks
#2895 [22:52] <minecrafter> yeah it's still black screening
#2896 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> flash1133 - Did you leave teamviewer running?
#2897 [22:53] <flash1133> yes
#2898 [22:54] <flash1133> it just said cant connect
#2899 [22:54] <flash1133> ill re send u the stuff
#2900 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> I cannot connect to you
#2901 [22:55] <flash1133> could i connect to you and you get in that way?
#2902 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't work like that.
#2903 [22:55] <flash1133> oh
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#2905 [22:57] <stomper> How do you make skins in minecraft?
#2906 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Character skins, or texture packs
#2907 [22:58] <stomper> Character Skins
#2908 [22:59] <minecrafter> Ive tried playing minecraft through the launcher, through IE, Firefox, and chrome. all result in a black screen right when the mojang logo should appear.
#2909 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Look up SkinEdit: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/3796-skinedit-new-version-13-april-alpha-3-pre-7/
#2910 [22:59] <stomper> Thank you.
#2911 [23:01] <flash1133> was that is grey?
#2912 [23:01] <flash1133> did it work?
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#2914 [23:04] <minecrafter> Any advice other than reinstalling minecraft? because that didnt help.
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#2917 [23:10] <yortman1> I can only take about 2 screenshots before it says that i dont have enough memory
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#2919 [23:10] <yortman1> is there a way to fix this?
#2920 [23:11] <minecrafter> I dont think any helpers are chatting ive been waiting forever...
#2921 [23:11] <yortman1> oh thx
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#2923 [23:25] <minecrafter> Hello?
#2924 [23:35] * mikaelrocks1231 [mikaelrocks1231@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2925 [23:35] <mikaelrocks1231> Can someone help me?
#2926 [23:35] <WugBot> mikaelrocks1231: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2927 [23:36] <mikaelrocks1231> Does anyone know how to install Minecraft xray mod for a mac? i dont know how to do it...
#2928 [23:36] <mikaelrocks1231> Does anyone know how to install Minecraft xray mod for a mac? i dont know how to do it..
#2929 [23:36] <mikaelrocks1231> Does anyone know how to install Minecraft xray mod for a mac? i dont know how to do it.
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#2931 [23:36] <mikaelrocks1231> Does anyone know how to install Minecraft xray mod for a mac? i dont know how to do it...
#2932 [23:37] <mau5ie> Please stop spamming the channel, mikaelrocks1231. -______-
#2933 [23:37] <mikaelrocks1231> Sorry :D
#2934 [23:37] <mikaelrocks1231> Do you know how to do it mau5ie?
#2935 [23:37] <mau5ie> It's rude, crass, annoying, and won't get you anywhere.
#2936 [23:38] <mikaelrocks1231> So does anyone know how to do it? Cause i try and it never works :s..
#2937 [23:39] <SinZ> ?? mods
#2938 [23:39] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2939 [23:39] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2940 [23:39] <minecrafter> Im having black screen issues.
#2941 [23:39] <minecrafter> no mods
#2942 [23:40] <SinZ> java version?
#2943 [23:40] <minecrafter> how do i check
#2944 [23:40] <mikaelrocks1231> Can someone help me install Minecraft Xray mod for 1,0,0 for a mac? Because i cannot do it. It wont work for me. Ive never used mods with minecraft on a mac. So please IM BEGGING Someone please help me
#2945 [23:41] <SinZ> minecrafter: windows?
#2946 [23:41] <Scott> mikaelrocks1231: We don't provide support for mods here.
#2947 [23:41] <mikaelrocks1231> SinZ are you talking to me?
#2948 [23:41] <SinZ> mikaelrocks1231: no mod support here
#2949 [23:41] <mikaelrocks1231> So then Where can i go?
#2950 [23:41] <mikaelrocks1231> For someone to help me
#2951 [23:41] <Scott> Google, Minecraft Forums, etc.
#2952 [23:41] <SinZ> ?? mods
#2953 [23:41] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2954 [23:41] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2955 [23:41] <minecrafter> yup
#2956 [23:41] <minecrafter> windows xp
#2957 [23:41] <minecrafter> mikael just search a youtube vid
#2958 [23:42] <mikaelrocks1231> I have tried... No one does it for mac...
#2959 [23:42] <Scott> its practically the same...
#2960 [23:42] <Scott> Just use Finder instead of Explorer
#2961 [23:42] <mikaelrocks1231> Ugh. Ill try agin
#2962 [23:42] <mikaelrocks1231> again*
#2963 [23:42] <SinZ> Scott: how to find java version?
#2964 [23:42] <Scott> java -version in cmd.exe
#2965 [23:42] <SinZ> ah, that works too
#2966 [23:43] <SinZ> was thinking of going to C:\Program Files\Java\ and listing the folders there
#2967 [23:43] <SinZ> minecrafter: do winkey + R
#2968 [23:44] <minecrafter> What?
#2969 [23:44] <Scott> ?? win/key
#2970 [23:44] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2971 [23:45] <SinZ> then type in cmd.exe
#2972 [23:45] <SinZ> then it should open a command prompt window, type in java -version
#2973 [23:46] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay i downloaded the xray but when i try to open with the default archiver utility but its saying i cant :s
#2974 [23:46] <minecrafter> okay i typed java - version in cmd.exe and it said could not create the java virtual machine
#2975 [23:46] <Scott> As I said, we don't provide support for mods here mikaelrocks1231.
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#2977 [23:48] <minecrafter> im still not seeing my java version. sorry, I'm not too good at this.
#2978 [23:48] <SinZ> how much ram do you have
#2979 [23:49] <minecrafter> how do i check that?
#2980 [23:53] <minecrafter> ok i found my ram i have 2.0 gb
#2981 [23:55] <jamietech> How do I go about checking if a user has paid for minecraft
#2982 [23:56] <mau5ie> Uh.
#2983 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#2984 [23:56] <jamietech> Not with the bot
#2985 [23:56] <mau5ie> !paid Anonymau5ie
#2986 [23:56] <jamietech> On the site
#2987 [23:56] <jamietech> what do I add to haspaid.jsp
#2988 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#2989 [23:56] <jamietech> ah ty
#2990 [23:57] <SinZ> `paid S1NZ
#2991 [23:57] <SinZBot> S1NZ has paid for Minecraft, I'll give him a hug some other time!
#2992 [23:58] <mau5ie> lololol