#MinecraftHelp > 2012-01-25
#1 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> Dusty: yes. melon seeds are good :3
#2 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> Dusty: also try 'i dont care'
#3 [00:02] <Dusty> ^__^
#4 [00:02] <Dusty> Thanks!
#5 [00:02] <Dusty> Want to test out some new seeds.
#6 [00:03] <Dusty> The cows in this one rofl
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#9 [00:12] <FISH_FIRE> ok loaded that driver... still not working...
#10 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> FISH_FIRE: ok we need to have the game tell us whats causing its problem then... follow these instructions please? http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#11 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> ah. ok.
#12 [00:15] <FISH_FIRE> ok ill do this first
#13 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> that will run the game with less memory (and give you output into the commandprompt)
#14 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> it might simply be the games tryign to grab more memory than you have available.. but isnt triggering the 'out of memory' crash
#15 [00:20] <FISH_FIRE> it worked it is running now.
#16 [00:22] <FISH_FIRE> so now when i want to start it do i use the bat file i made or the minecraft.exe file
#17 [00:23] <FISH_FIRE> Kiikun you there?
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#20 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> ah sorry was afk
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#25 [00:54] <Kal> I receive an error in java when trying to load minecraft
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#27 [00:55] <Kal> Being on a Mac has it limitations with this, 10.6, minecraft will 'load' blackscreen, then java spits out something like a red exclaimation point and a coffee cup
#28 [00:56] <pudgetta> Hi there. I am able to enter my map, but when I press the key to open the crafting screen, i get a screen that says "Saving Chunks" and then a black screen
#29 [00:56] <pudgetta> I'm on a MAC
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#37 [01:24] <twocents> I've got a couple of mins, if anyone reads this, is anyone having a problem with losing worlds on minecraft? my computer has trouble running minecraft sometimes and it shuts itself down, twice now, when I rebooted, I lost my world. I'm running version 1.1
#38 [01:24] <Kealper> sadly, that is a problem that can't really be fixed
#39 [01:24] <twocents> is it common?
#40 [01:25] <Kealper> (well, the world usually can, but the thing that causes that issue can't)
#41 [01:25] <twocents> dang, I have to go, I will be back
#42 [01:26] <Kealper> bah, he didn
#43 [01:26] <Kealper> didn't let me finish explaining ._.
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#53 [02:04] <JibJib> I can't download minecraft. It has a black screen at the home page, i have paid, downloaded latest java 64 bit,adobe flash player & disabled firewalls,what else could it be?????
#54 [02:06] <self_slaughter> you need 32 bit java if you are doing it from the website (unless you havea 64bit browser.. unlikely)
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#56 [02:07] <JibJib> thanks, i will give it a go.
#57 [02:07] <self_slaughter> otherwise download the offline version it will work with 64 bit
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#61 [02:16] <mib_8ucu49> hello
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#63 [02:17] <self_slaughter> uh harro
#64 [02:17] <Noqturnal> Hiya.
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#67 [02:17] <mib_8ucu49> hello I am so lost is this where a person might find help?
#68 [02:18] <wajeemba> I'm having difficulty getting the whitelist to work- I just enable it in server.properties and fill out white-list.txt, restart server- right?
#69 [02:18] <mib_8ucu49> looks as though i fuond the right place
#70 [02:18] <wajeemba> <mib_8ucu49> help may be here, what's your issue, traveller :D
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#72 [02:20] <Reko> is a lava source 1 square?
#73 [02:20] <wajeemba> yes, but there can be more squares
#74 [02:20] <wajeemba> 1 is all it needs to flow though
#75 [02:21] <Reko> to stop it do i place a block in the source square or surround it
#76 [02:21] <Noqturnal> I've linked my Minecraft account to a meltmail address (long story short, had too many accounts tied to one email), and now it's migrated. I don't remember said meltmail address. Can this be resolved?
#77 [02:21] <mib_8ucu49> how do i fix a java problem? i keep getting an error that says exception java.lang.nodeffounderror:could not initialize class javax.crypto.SunJCE_b
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#79 [02:25] <mib_8ucu49> did i do something against the rules?
#80 [02:29] <mib_8ucu49> is there a fix for a java crypto whatever the e means being initialized,in order to start a game?
#81 [02:30] <Noqturnal> What JVM are you using?
#82 [02:30] <mib_8ucu49> 6/30
#83 [02:30] <Noqturnal> Grab 7u2
#84 [02:31] <mib_8ucu49> I have no other java listed im on a 32 bit will 7 work with that?
#85 [02:31] <Noqturnal> Windows 7?
#86 [02:31] <mib_8ucu49> xp guess im in trouble
#87 [02:31] <Noqturnal> Lol yeah
#88 [02:32] <mib_8ucu49> ko so i get a new computer cause i try to load a new operating system on this thing i might start a fire
#89 [02:33] <mib_8ucu49> well at least that explains that thank you
#90 [02:35] <|Kiikun|> Noqturnal: java 7 likes to break minecraft. that mib will most likely be back.
#91 [02:35] <|Kiikun|> the problem was the java install went corrupt :/
#92 [02:36] <|Kiikun|> Noqturnal: and for your email thing... do a password reset and check for where it gets sent
#93 [02:38] <|Kiikun|> oh. thats what meltmail is :/ hopefully your browser likes to remember what youve entered into forms, otherwise youll have to email mojang....
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#95 [02:45] <sam> i need help
#96 [02:45] <sam> any1 there?
#97 [02:46] <sam> hello??????
#98 [02:49] <Kealper> sam: with what?
#99 [02:50] <sam> my minecraft
#100 [02:50] <Kealper> obviously, but what about Minecraft did you need help with?
#101 [02:50] <sam> when i download and run minecraft it says it cant connect to the servers and if i say play offline it just crashes
#102 [02:51] <Kealper> have you tried it in the browser?
#103 [02:51] <sam> if i do inbrowser it just finishes updating and say finished updating and dose nothing
#104 [02:51] <sam> i eve nleft it for 20 mins
#105 [02:52] <Kealper> hmm....
#106 [02:52] <Kealper> ok, go try it in the browser, but when it stops doing what it was supposed to be doing, leave it right there and tell me
#107 [02:52] <Kealper> i'll let you know how to get some more information on what is going wrong
#108 [02:53] <Noqturnal> sam: Windows 7?
#109 [02:53] <sam> ok
#110 [02:53] <sam> thanks
#111 [02:53] <sam> yeh
#112 [02:53] <Noqturnal> Type 'cmd' into the start menu
#113 [02:53] <Noqturnal> load it up
#114 [02:53] <Noqturnal> type
#115 [02:53] <sam> yeh
#116 [02:54] * Kealper blehs
#116 [02:54] <|Kiikun|> too many enters :P vox muted you
#117 [02:54] <sam> im not sure if i should be messing with my cmd box
#118 [02:54] * Kealper takes no responsibility for whatever Noqturnal is planning on saying
#118 [02:54] <Noqturnal> sam: It won't hurt you.
#119 [02:54] <Noqturnal> sam: type java -v
#120 [02:54] <Noqturnal> Get the Java version.
#121 [02:54] <sam> it will hurt my comp
#122 [02:55] <Noqturnal> It won't hurt anything. Obtaining the java version doesn't touch a single file.
#123 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> sam: only if youre telling it to do something harmful.. and if Noqturnal says to... kealper gets to banhammer
#124 [02:55] * Kealper loves his banhammer
#124 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> Noqturnal: and its java -version
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#126 [02:55] <Kealper> i think -v works as well
#127 [02:55] <Noqturnal> |Kiikun|: Sorry, I'm on Linux. Thanks for clarifying.
#128 [02:56] <sam> kealper its just stuffed up and in where the updating box is there is a picture of the screen i was just in
#129 [02:56] <baibro> need help immediately
#130 [02:56] <Noqturnal> baibro: Immediately?
#131 [02:56] <|Kiikun|> ??> baibro patience
#132 [02:56] <VoxelHead> baibro: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#133 [02:56] <VoxelHead> baibro: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#134 [02:56] <Kealper> sam: ok then, look in the bottom right of your screen, where the computer's time is
#135 [02:56] <|Kiikun|> i also recognise that name...
#136 [02:56] <baibro> ok
#137 [02:56] <Kealper> sam: do you see a little white coffee cup icon?
#138 [02:56] <sam> yeh
#139 [02:57] <sam> no
#140 [02:57] <Kealper> sam: right click it and click on the Open Java Console thing
#141 [02:57] <Kealper> oh...
#142 [02:57] <Kealper> sam: do you see a little black arrow that points upwards down there?
#143 [02:57] <Noqturnal> Kealper: Java is integrated into the path, you can just use cmd.
#144 [02:57] <sam> found it
#145 [02:57] <sam> yeh i found it
#146 [02:58] <|Kiikun|> Noqturnal: not always.
#147 [02:58] <Kealper> Noqturnal: i don't want the version, i want the stack trace
#148 [02:58] <baibro> i cant connect to minecraft paid servers, i have a legit copy of the game, eyery time i try to join a server i get numeral connection lost errors.
#149 [02:58] <Kealper> sam: ok, did you click to open that console thing up?
#150 [02:58] <sam> yep the control panel?
#151 [02:58] <Noqturnal> baibro: numeral, or numerous?
#152 [02:58] <|Kiikun|> baibro: connecting to multiplayer servers?
#153 [02:58] <baibro> lots
#154 [02:58] <baibro> yes multiplayer
#155 [02:59] <Kealper> sam: not the Control Panel one, it should be right near that option though in that right-click menu, it's called something like Open Java Console
#156 [02:59] <baibro> lot of errors
#157 [02:59] <Kealper> sam: or something similar, it'll have "console
#158 [02:59] <sam> oh
#159 [02:59] <Kealper> sam: "console" in it though
#160 [02:59] <sam> found it
#161 [02:59] <|Kiikun|> baibro: can you connect to c.nerd.nu ?
#162 [02:59] <Kealper> sam: ok, do you see a button that says "Copy" on it?
#163 [02:59] <sam> yep
#164 [03:00] <baibro> ill check, i cant try many servers due to my low internet data left
#165 [03:00] <Kealper> sam: click that, and after you click it, go to http://pastebin.com and then paste what you just copied in to that website, then click submit
#166 [03:00] <sam> ok thanks
#167 [03:01] <|Kiikun|> baibro: if your concerned about how much data youre allowed to use... WhyTF do you want to play multiplayer?
#168 [03:01] <Kealper> sam: after clicking submit, it should show up on pastebin.com; after that just copy the URL inside the address bar up at the top of your browser and paste that URL in here so i can look at it
#169 [03:01] <baibro> no, i dont have much left, we have nearly used our 7 gb
#170 [03:01] <baibro> a month
#171 [03:01] <sam> http://pastebin.com/FcjKUm9z
#172 [03:01] <sam> that?
#173 [03:02] <Kealper> sam: yes, one moment please
#174 [03:02] <sam> ok
#175 [03:02] * |Kiikun| puts that idiocy aside to be left undelt with for his own sanity.
#175 [03:02] <|Kiikun|> baibro: can you connect to it or not?
#176 [03:02] <Noqturnal> He can.
#177 [03:02] <Noqturnal> He just connected to my server.
#178 [03:02] <baibro> okay the server loads but i fall into a hole in the ground then i lose connection
#179 [03:03] <baibro> wait, ill tll u what its called
#180 [03:03] <|Kiikun|> baibro: thats usually because you have a bad internet connection
#181 [03:03] <baibro> no, we have axtremely high speed
#182 [03:03] <Kealper> baibro: are you using mobile broadband?
#183 [03:03] <baibro> extremely*
#184 [03:03] <baibro> no
#185 [03:03] <baibro> satelite
#186 [03:03] <Kealper> oh... that's almost as bad
#187 [03:04] <sam> Kealper did u get anything?
#188 [03:04] <Noqturnal> Isn't it worse?
#189 [03:04] <baibro> internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out
#190 [03:04] <Noqturnal> I can pull over 8Mbit on my mobile broadband.
#191 [03:04] <Kealper> baibro: http://speedtest.net go there, click to run a test, after the test is done, click "Share" and then click "Copy", then paste the result in here
#192 [03:04] <baibro> our internet is fine with other games
#193 [03:04] <Kealper> sam: yeah i seen the error thing in that pastebin
#194 [03:04] <baibro> ok
#195 [03:05] <sam> can u fix it?
#196 [03:05] <baibro> the speed will be slower seeing that im on irc
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#198 [03:05] <Kealper> sam: possibly; still trying to figure out what is causing it
#199 [03:06] <sam> ok thanks for this maybe i might be able to play this after all
#200 [03:06] <baibro> and when we run out of internet we get slowed down, so it will be way slower than usual
#201 [03:06] <Kealper> baibro: IRC shouldn't slow it down at all, IRC has been around since before most people in here were even born, it uses almost no internet :o
#202 [03:06] <Kealper> aha!
#203 [03:06] <Kealper> sam: i know the problem
#204 [03:06] <Noqturnal> baibro: If you're capped, you're stuffed already.
#205 [03:07] <Noqturnal> baibro: You're often slowed down to about 56kbps, or 7KBps. That's far too slow for a Minecraft connection.
#206 [03:07] <sam> yes>
#207 [03:07] <sam> *?
#208 [03:07] <Noqturnal> baibro: It's far too slow to load a majority of sites, never mind play games.
#209 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> irc was around durring dialup days... basicly uses as much bandwith as a textfile of what you se being typed :P
#210 [03:07] <Kealper> sam: you've got exclamation points in your computer username, one second while i find where that fix ran off to
#211 [03:07] <sam> omg you are smart =D
#212 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> ??> win/!
#213 [03:08] <sam> should i try to change that?
#214 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/!
#215 [03:08] <baibro> yesterday, when i bough the game, my internet was fine, though it didnt work
#216 [03:08] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#217 [03:08] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#218 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: that one?
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#220 [03:08] <Kealper> yeah that
#221 [03:08] <baibro> and the server i had to chose is nowhere near where i live, but the closest
#222 [03:09] <magictj_> whered u live then>
#223 [03:09] <Kealper> i was looking through vox's index lol, i knew it was somewhere in there
#224 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> i think wugbot has it too...
#225 [03:09] <baibro> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1729073123.png
#226 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> :!
#227 [03:09] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#228 [03:09] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does). Must be run as admin on vista/7.
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#230 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> yup :3
#231 [03:09] <Kealper> sam: see what that user VoxelHead said? try that
#232 [03:09] <baibro> its really bad so we must be slowed down
#233 [03:09] <mib_mvmm4q> hi
#234 [03:09] <magictj_> so is anyone looing for a server to go on>
#235 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> baibro: dude... your net sucks.
#236 [03:10] <Noqturnal> baibro: As I expected, you're in Australia. You're 300miles out of Sydney. Can't you get better Internet?
#237 [03:10] <baibro> not when its
#238 [03:10] <baibro> not slowed down
#239 [03:10] <Kealper> 719ms latency :o
#240 [03:10] <|Kiikun|> youre probably capped already since my dsl is faster than that. AND you have a 700ms ping...
#241 [03:10] <baibro> no we can have satelite internet or nothing
#242 [03:10] <Noqturnal> baibro: You're on a satellite connection. Can't you get a proper DSL connection?
#243 [03:10] <mib_mvmm4q> can some one help me
#244 [03:10] <Kealper> ??> mib_mvmm4q ask
#245 [03:10] <baibro> no we cant
#246 [03:10] <VoxelHead> mib_mvmm4q: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#247 [03:10] <magictj_> yh sure qot is it?
#248 [03:10] <VoxelHead> mib_mvmm4q: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#249 [03:11] <baibro> only satelite
#250 [03:11] <magictj_> lol Voxel
#251 [03:11] <sam> its working!!!!!!
#252 [03:11] <Kealper> sam: well that's good :o
#253 [03:11] <mib_mvmm4q> i can get my minecraft .jar to open
#254 [03:11] <sam> well its updating
#255 [03:11] <sam> but thats better than before =D
#256 [03:11] <baibro> yester day we had normal internet and still didnt work
#257 [03:11] <magictj_> U need to open it with winzar or 7-zip i recommaneed 7-zip
#258 [03:11] <Kealper> sam: if it got that far, it should (in theory) work all the way
#259 [03:12] <sam> thank you guys so much i hope your getting payed for this =D
#260 [03:12] <Noqturnal> We don't.
#261 [03:12] <sam> well u should
#262 [03:12] <magictj_> anyone want to go on a server?
#263 [03:12] * Kealper could only wish
#263 [03:12] <baibro> hello?...
#264 [03:12] <sam> its working!!! i love you guys
#265 [03:12] <Kealper> magictj_: server advertising is not allowed in this channel :/
#266 [03:12] * |Kiikun| doesnt feel like makign a donation button for here since paypal would just take 90% of it :P
#266 [03:12] <Noqturnal> baibro: Really, nothing we can do. It's an issue with your ISP.
#267 [03:13] <Kealper> sam: glad to hear ^^
#268 [03:13] <baibro> so where should i go for further advice?
#269 [03:13] <sam> thanks guys youv been a BIG help
#270 [03:13] <magictj_> okay :)
#271 [03:13] <Kealper> sam: come back any time lol
#272 [03:13] <Noqturnal> baibro: Contact Skymesh. I'd also recommend talking to Telstra.
#273 [03:13] * Kealper waves
#273 [03:13] <sam> hopefully ill see you online =D
#274 [03:13] <baibro> why telstra?
#275 [03:14] <Noqturnal> baibro: Australia's largest ISP.
#276 [03:14] <Kealper> i think Internode basically covers most places as well, although all that stuff is literally half a world away from me so i can't comment on service or pricing
#277 [03:14] <baibro> no, the only internet we can get is satelite with skymesh
#278 [03:15] <Noqturnal> baibro: Where do you live, out of curiosity?
#279 [03:15] <baibro> so what should i ask skymesh?
#280 [03:15] <baibro> hunter valley
#281 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> in the missle of dingoville? :P
#282 [03:15] <baibro> not saying anything more
#283 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> *middle
#284 [03:15] <Kealper> baibro: unfortunately there isn't much you can do except wait until Feb. 1st if the only internet you can get is with Skymesh
#285 [03:16] <Kealper> baibro: also yeah i think he just meant the city, not your actual home address lol
#286 [03:16] <baibro> yes, but as ive said heaps of times allready, when our internet was fine the game still wasnt working
#287 [03:16] <Kealper> hmm
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#289 [03:17] <baibro> so ask skymesh what?...
#290 [03:17] <Kealper> now... since i was helping someone else when you were stating your plight... what happens when you connect? the world never loads and you get disconnected after 20 seconds?
#291 [03:18] <|Kiikun|> kealper: no chunks load and he voidfalls
#292 [03:18] <baibro> oh and when out internet is fine it says better than 35% of au
#293 [03:18] <baibro> sometimes it loads then connection lost, sometime it never loads
#294 [03:18] <Noqturnal> baibro: You've contacted Telstra? It says that DSL broadband may be available in your area. It's not a definite no.
#295 [03:19] <baibro> adsl do u mean?
#296 [03:19] <Noqturnal> DSL.
#297 [03:19] <|Kiikun|> adsl rdsl fdsl xdsl... all are still DSL
#298 [03:19] <baibro> whats it stant for,
#299 [03:19] <baibro> ok
#300 [03:19] <Kealper> baibro: more importantly than all that... (and sorry if you've already answered this, again, i wasn't paying attention) did you try more than one server?
#301 [03:19] <Noqturnal> Digital Subscriber Line.
#302 [03:19] <baibro> well we have adsl
#303 [03:20] <baibro> yes probably over 30
#304 [03:20] <Noqturnal> baibro: No, you have GSM/Satellite Connection. Not DSL. :(
#305 [03:20] <Kealper> oh, well then
#306 [03:20] <Noqturnal> baibro: DSL is better than satellite.
#307 [03:20] <Kealper> baibro: are you using wireless or wired?
#308 [03:20] <baibro> well we dont have it but near us we do but we cant get adsl
#309 [03:20] <baibro> wired
#310 [03:20] <baibro> though we have an acces point
#311 [03:20] <Noqturnal> Wired to a modem with a sim card.
#312 [03:21] <Kealper> then i'd definitely say the issue is (most likely) because you have satellite internet
#313 [03:21] <baibro> but im on desktop comp
#314 [03:21] <Kealper> and i say "most likely" because there's still a chance that it could be software on your computer or something
#315 [03:21] <baibro> okay, ill look that up but we prob wont be changing couse we spaent lota of money on it
#316 [03:21] <Kealper> baibro: do you have any antivirus installed?
#317 [03:22] <baibro> yes
#318 [03:22] <baibro> no, ive tried on two comps, this one, wired, and the laptop, wireless
#319 [03:22] <baibro> we used to have avg but now we have microsoft security essensials
#320 [03:23] <Kealper> baibro: ok so it isn't that...
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#322 [03:25] <Kealper> then yeah i'm still kind of thinking it's due to satellite internet... if it does the same thing on multiple computers like what you've said, then the problem is either with the routing equipment or the internet itself... and since i doubt it's the router, (used to be a problem way back when, but that issue was fixed a while back) then that only really leaves your ISP as the reason for the game not working right
#323 [03:25] <Kealper> (yay wall of text!)
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#325 [03:27] <baibro> sorry i lost connection
#326 [03:27] <baibro> i lost u from ok so it isnt that
#327 [03:27] <baibro> ya here?
#328 [03:27] <baibro> ...
#329 [03:27] <baibro> ...
#330 [03:27] <baibro> ...
#331 [03:27] <baibro> ...
#332 [03:27] <Kealper> chill with the spam
#333 [03:27] <Kealper> then yeah i'm still kind of thinking it's due to satellite internet... if it does the same thing on multiple computers like what you've said, then the problem is either with the routing equipment or the internet itself... and since i doubt it's the router, (used to be a problem way back when, but that issue was fixed a while back) then that only really leaves your ISP as the reason for the game not working right
#334 [03:28] <baibro> right
#335 [03:29] <baibro> ...
#336 [03:29] <baibro> sorry, i must be patient
#337 [03:30] <baibro> or ive lost connection
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#339 [03:30] <baibro> if someone dont say something i will assume ive lost connection
#340 [03:30] <baibro> oh there we go
#341 [03:30] <Noqturnal> AndrewPH.
#342 [03:30] <Noqturnal> Been a long time since I've seen that name around anywhere.
#343 [03:31] <Kealper> that's all we can do in here is just tell you that, we can't help with issues such as yours :/
#344 [03:31] <baibro> so what should i do know?
#345 [03:31] <Kealper> AndrewPH suxx0rz teh big one111
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#347 [03:31] <Kealper> :>
#348 [03:31] <baibro> u said consult with skymesh
#349 [03:31] <baibro> ask skymesh WHAT
#350 [03:32] <baibro> sorry
#351 [03:32] <Kealper> baibro: well technically, i said nothing of the sort, Noqturnal told you to contact them
#352 [03:32] <Noqturnal> baibro: Talk to them about getting a better connection.
#353 [03:32] <baibro> okay
#354 [03:32] <baibro> i told u thats not an option, we r on the best we can get
#355 [03:32] <Noqturnal> baibro: That is all we can help you with. We can't do anything more for you If Skymesh can't either, it's time to move house to somewhere less rural.
#356 [03:33] <baibro> drop it
#357 [03:33] <baibro> you are saying exoensive unlikely options
#358 [03:33] <baibro> sianara!
#359 [03:33] <Noqturnal> baibro: We can't help you any further. Attacking us won't help.
#360 [03:34] <STU> I am trying to run this game on a mac for my son, we have the premium package but it tells me the digital signature has expired, i have the required java and specs , can anyone help
#361 [03:34] <baibro> and i sent help@mojang.com an email, how long does it take for them to usually respond?
#362 [03:34] <Kealper> uhh... generally around a day
#363 [03:34] <Noqturnal> baibro: Mojang will not be able to aid you either. It is an issue with your ISP, not with Minecraft.
#364 [03:35] <baibro> well bye
#365 [03:35] <Noqturnal> baibro: However, between 12 and 48hrs depending on when you send it.
#366 [03:35] <Noqturnal> Derpderpderpderpderpderp!
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#368 [03:35] <Kealper> rofl
#369 [03:35] <Kealper> !lookup 180.181.29.148
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#371 [03:35] <Kealper> that was immensely helpful AuBot, thanks
#372 [03:36] <Kealper> ;_;
#373 [03:39] <Noqturnal> That was his IP?
#374 [03:39] <Kealper> indeed
#375 [03:39] <Noqturnal> Wow, returns nothing. :x
#376 [03:39] <AureliusM> STU: ignore the digital signature has expired, it's just a warning. As long as you downloaded the minecraft.exe from minecraft.net it will be correct.
#377 [03:40] <Kealper> oh, whoops... didn't even notice someone else asked a question :o
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#379 [03:45] <Noqturnal> Welcome back Andrew
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#384 [04:25] <Reko> how do i wanna place my torches for max light.... in a big room?
#385 [04:26] <lemon-rev> reko this is minecraft help < ie help with minecraft not minecraft help build but its totally up to you how you do stuff
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#387 [04:28] <Reko> so this is a software support only channel?
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#396 [05:02] <|Kiikun|> Reko: its technicly technical support. we make your game work :P but for max light with torches... cover everythign with a torch.
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#405 [07:10] <Zimsky> Hi, when I join a server, my client seems to send this as a chat message: u00a74u00a75u00a73u00a74v|1
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#407 [07:10] <Zimsky> Anyone know why?
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#427 [09:50] <Jordan_the_first> I want to reset the nether so I can get rid a mod, which folder do I delete?
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#429 [10:13] <Wug> Zimsky: do you have any mods
#430 [10:13] <Zimsky> Nvm, I sorted it out ages ago.
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#433 [10:18] <Wug> Jordan_the_first: delete the DIM-1 folder
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#435 [10:24] <Jordan_the_first> Wug, thanks
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#449 [11:22] <mariettagecko> It's quiet in here today
#450 [11:22] <hmw> heheh.... I was just wondering about wugbot
#451 [11:22] <mariettagecko> What about it?
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#453 [11:29] <Keks212> Jemand deutsch?
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#455 [11:30] <Keks212> Deutsch?
#456 [11:33] <Boreeas> Patience. Learn it
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#466 [12:06] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: Not likely, unfortunately.
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#494 [14:35] <Tiagobr6> grey
#495 [14:35] <Tiagobr6> pastebin link
#496 [14:38] <Tiagobr6> i need help
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#498 [14:38] <Tiagobr6> help here please?
#499 [14:38] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: What is your problem?
#500 [14:38] <calatalee> eine frage stimmt es das pre-releases minecraft 1.2 draußen ist?
#501 [14:39] <Tiagobr6> i will post at pastebin
#502 [14:39] <Boreeas> calatalee: Guck ob es in den foren steht
#503 [14:39] <Aikar> huh, MC 1.2 soon?
#504 [14:39] <Boreeas> calatalee: http://minecraftforums.net
#505 [14:39] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/1NYw7xrT
#506 [14:39] <Boreeas> calatalee: Sollte dort angezeigt werden
#507 [14:39] <calatalee> ok
#508 [14:40] <Tiagobr6> boreas
#509 [14:40] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/1NYw7xrT
#510 [14:40] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: Did a restart fix it?
#511 [14:40] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: No need to double post, I saw it the first time
#512 [14:41] <Tiagobr6> restart of what pc or the game??
#513 [14:41] <Tiagobr6> sorry , i though you didnt
#514 [14:41] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: Game
#515 [14:41] <Tiagobr6> no
#516 [14:41] <Boreeas> ??> Tiagobr6 win/reinst
#517 [14:41] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#518 [14:41] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#519 [14:42] <Tiagobr6> well
#520 [14:42] <Tiagobr6> another thing
#521 [14:42] <Tiagobr6> how to fix light cache?
#522 [14:42] <Tiagobr6> i meant , how to clear it
#523 [14:42] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: Do what VoxelHead told you
#524 [14:42] <Tiagobr6> ok
#525 [14:43] <Tiagobr6> it will works normaly then??
#526 [14:43] <Boreeas> Tiagobr6: Should
#527 [14:44] <Tiagobr6> but it unistalled all
#528 [14:44] <Tiagobr6> i has 10 mods installed
#529 [14:44] <Tiagobr6> :_
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#531 [14:46] <Tiagobr6> dude this is bad@ss
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#533 [15:06] <Slicker> hello - anyone know if there is a issue with Eye of Ender leading to no stronghold locations
#534 [15:06] <Slicker> like leading to the wrong location
#535 [15:07] <lemon-rev> slicker look at minecraft wiki, maybe they might be able to tell you
#536 [15:07] <Slicker> was on it the other day and didnt see anything
#537 [15:07] <Slicker> let me check again
#538 [15:09] <Slicker> i see something about older versions where when something is updated it leads to where it should be or something
#539 [15:10] <Slicker> guessing same thing happening now with 1.0 to 1.1
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#553 [15:42] <Wug> lol I guess minecraft is working right today
#554 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Guess so
#555 [15:44] * GreyVulpine wonders when mc.minecraftirc.net will be back up
#555 [15:45] <Wug> when the bukkit team gets off its cumulative ass
#556 [15:57] <lukegb> Wug: ....?
#557 [15:58] <Wug> ^.^
#558 [15:58] <lukegb> Wug: do you have an issue with 1.1-R1? o.o
#559 [15:58] <Kealper> the mcirc server is technically up
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#561 [15:58] <Kealper> it just isn't running 1.1
#562 [15:59] <lukegb> Because we did an RB for MC 1.1.
#563 [15:59] <Wug> I dont manage the server
#564 [15:59] <Wug> we're waiting for a stable release
#565 [15:59] <Kealper> we'll need to poke Scott if an RB for 1.1 is out then
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#567 [16:03] <NeonNeutron> Ahah, Amazing timelapse of Herobrine : http://youtu.be/I8FMWslx9oU
#568 [16:03] <NeonNeutron> Ahah, Amazing timelapse of Herobrine : http://youtu.be/I8FMWslx9oU
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#570 [16:06] <Kealper> i get the feeling if i click that link, i'll end up banning that guy's IP
#571 [16:06] <Dusty> lol
#572 [16:07] * GreyVulpine won't touch that with a 10-foot pole
#572 [16:07] <Wug> its just a really, really stupid video
#573 [16:08] <Kealper> meh... i'll allow it... it's some Minecraft video of him screwing around
#574 [16:08] <Wug> youtu.be is a legit youtube thing
#575 [16:08] <Kealper> yeah but I8FMWslx9oU
#576 [16:08] <Kealper> whoops
#577 [16:08] <Kealper> but that doesn't tell you anything about the video lol
#578 [16:08] <Kealper> wait, aubot to the rescue!
#579 [16:09] <Kealper> AuBot: what is the title of that url?
#580 [16:09] <Kealper> AuBot: you're garbage
#581 [16:09] <Kealper> i should sell you for the scrap
#582 [16:09] <Kealper> hmm...
#583 [16:10] <Kealper> i actually think i know why it does that... i don't think i'm stripping out returns from between the title tags lol
#584 [16:10] <Wug> ;long http://youtu.be/I8FMWslx9oU
#585 [16:10] <WugBot> An error occurred. (Timed Out: Connect)
#586 [16:10] <Wug> >.>
#587 [16:10] <Wug> ;long http://youtu.be/I8FMWslx9oU
#588 [16:10] <WugBot> An error occurred. (Timed Out: Connect)
#589 [16:10] <Wug> did I break it
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#591 [16:11] <Wug> ;long http://bit.ly/tC9WTa
#592 [16:11] <Kealper> aha, that is the problem
#593 [16:11] <WugBot> An error occurred. (Timed Out: Connect)
#594 [16:12] <Wug> yep, looks like I broke it
#595 [16:12] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#596 [16:13] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/irclogs
#597 [16:13] <Kealper> aubot, title to that url
#598 [16:13] <Kealper> aubot, stop failing
#599 [16:13] <Kealper> oh
#600 [16:13] <Kealper> aubot, get that title
#601 [16:14] <Kealper> actually that was a bad test, that one doesn't have any returns in its title tags
#602 [16:15] <Kealper> oh, that'll do
#603 [16:15] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com
#604 [16:15] <Kealper> aubot, get the title
#605 [16:15] * Kealper needs to strip extra white space
#605 [16:16] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#606 [16:16] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com
#607 [16:17] <Kealper> aubot, get the title
#608 [16:17] <Kealper> ok then
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#614 [16:51] <Rainbow_DJ> question i Registerd and enter an email for minecraft but it will not send me a verification key
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#616 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#617 [16:52] <Rainbow_DJ> i tryed that but it still wont send me it
#618 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Check your spam folder? Make sure you're accessing the right email account?
#619 [16:53] <Rainbow_DJ> is there a way i could chang the email to that account?
#620 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329523-how-do-i-change-the-email-address-linked-to-my-account-
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#624 [16:58] <Rainbow_DJ> i know i created that account but when i try to long with the email on the link you gave me it wont let me log in is there some place i say what email and password i create it with?
#625 [16:59] <Rainbow_DJ> created*
#626 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#627 [17:01] <hmw> Is it just me, or can't we stand on top of ladders anymore?
#628 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Due to the hitbox of ladders being removed
#629 [17:02] <hmw> oh no
#630 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> That's been reversed in the latest snapshot
#631 [17:02] <hmw> uh, thanks
#632 [17:03] <hmw> now I need 2 pistons for a secret hole in the floor :(
#633 [17:03] <Rainbow_DJ> like i made an email acount just for that account but when i tryed to log in to the email they said they deleted it so i tryed making the same email it worked or is there a support line i can call?
#634 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> There is not support line you can call, unless you want to make a long distance call to Sweden
#635 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> no*
#636 [17:03] <Rainbow_DJ> .....
#637 [17:04] <Rainbow_DJ> hmmm
#638 [17:05] <Rainbow_DJ> do you know the number?
#639 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately not
#640 [17:05] <Rainbow_DJ> where could i find it
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#642 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> http://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=Mojang+AB,+%C3%85s%C3%B6gatan,+Stockholm,+Sweden&hl=en&ie=UTF8&cid=15104596451167099785
#643 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Mojang AB
#644 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Åsögatan 140, 116 24 Stockholm, Sweden
#645 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> +46 70 669 43 52 ‎
#646 [17:07] <Rainbow_DJ> ok by
#647 [17:07] <Rainbow_DJ> ok by
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#656 [17:30] <ngc0202> howdy
#657 [17:30] <ngc0202> I set up a minecraft server
#658 [17:30] <ngc0202> and I want my website to point to the server IP, like mc.domain.com
#659 [17:31] <Kealper> do you have a domain? (i assume yes, but still...)
#660 [17:31] <ngc0202> Yes lol
#661 [17:31] <Aikar> ngc0202: so setup a dns record on that domain to point to the mc server
#662 [17:31] <ngc0202> I'm in the dns management for it and I don't know whether to put it under A or CNAME
#663 [17:31] <Kealper> that depends
#664 [17:31] <Aikar> mc IN A 1.2.3.4
#665 [17:32] <Kealper> is your website and your mc server on the same machine?
#666 [17:32] <ngc0202> no
#667 [17:32] <Kealper> then use an A record
#668 [17:32] <Kealper> and put the IP that your server is at
#669 [17:32] <Aikar> is the MC server on your local home PC or a dedicated IP server?
#670 [17:32] <Aikar> (answer this before using A record)
#671 [17:33] <Aikar> ngc0202:
#672 [17:33] <ngc0202> It's at home
#673 [17:33] <Aikar> ok, so youll want to use a dyndns service, then CNAME to that services hostname
#674 [17:33] <ngc0202> what?
#675 [17:33] <Aikar> http://dyndns.org
#676 [17:33] <Kealper> he's using Comcast so he basically has a static IP (not fully static, but they rarely change)
#677 [17:33] <Aikar> that service will keep a DNS record updated to your current IP, so even when your IP changes, your ok
#678 [17:33] <Aikar> wouldnt hurt to be safe :P
#679 [17:34] <Kealper> and an A record for a subdomain updates almost instantly anyways
#680 [17:34] <Aikar> well depending on TTL :P
#681 [17:34] <ngc0202> Yeah... I'm not going to use that Dyndns thing
#682 [17:34] <Aikar> and thatll require manual update, where as dyndns would automate it
#683 [17:34] <ngc0202> Keepin it free
#684 [17:34] <Aikar> dyndns is free
#685 [17:34] <Aikar> I dont pay for it O.o
#686 [17:35] <ngc0202> orly?
#687 [17:35] <ngc0202> "As low as 30$/yr!"
#688 [17:35] <Kealper> ngc0202: do you plan on getting a new router any time soon? if not, you're find using an A record on your domain.. Comcast IPs only change if some hardware fails on Comcast's end or if you hard-reset your router or get a new router
#689 [17:35] <ngc0202> I still don't think I'm gonna use it
#690 [17:35] <Boreeas> You can almost host your own server with that :P
#691 [17:35] <Kealper> you're fine*
#692 [17:36] <ngc0202> The TTL is really long on domain.com :/
#693 [17:36] <Kealper> how many seconds?
#694 [17:36] <Kealper> (also you can usually change those)
#695 [17:36] <Aikar> http://free.domain.name/en.html is the free one
#696 [17:36] <Aikar> most modern routers have built in support for it too
#697 [17:36] <ngc0202> Seconds?
#698 [17:37] <ngc0202> It doesn't say, and I wouldn't measure it in seconds
#699 [17:38] <Kealper> TTL is usually measured in seconds, but honestly this is just nit-picking.... if you have a domain, make a new A record pointing towards your mc server's IP (be that your home IP or otherwise)
#700 [17:38] <Boreeas> What is TTL anyways :P
#701 [17:38] <Kealper> Time-To-Live
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#703 [17:39] <Kealper> in DNS stuff, it means how fast other DNS servers will refresh their cache of that domain
#704 [17:39] <Boreeas> Ah
#705 [17:40] <ngc0202> It's been a while
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#707 [17:46] <Modern> Hello
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#709 [17:48] <Classic> Hello
#710 [17:51] <Boreeas> ...
#711 [17:51] * Boreeas waits for \"Futuristic\"
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#713 [17:57] <HammerOfThor> Hi would someone mind helping me with essentials:Groupmanager? I have made the permissions.yml and have stopped and started my server but the permissions, and the prefixes and such arent working. can someone help?
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#719 [18:31] <Australican> Hi, I have a stupidly newbie question to ask, if anyone could spare a moment?
#720 [18:32] <Wug> fire away
#721 [18:33] <Australican> Thanks. I'm trying to connect to a creative server that has a port next to the url (continued...)
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#723 [18:34] <Australican> And it keeps telling me 'Can't Reach Server'
#724 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> What is the IP?
#725 [18:35] <reedlepee> hi umm i cant access my minecraft jar or bin thing wear you download mods it ust keeps saying windows cant access this file what do i do?
#726 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - what minecraft.jar are you accessing, and how are you opening it?
#727 [18:36] <Australican> vpn.jiwa .com.au:25566
#728 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> !check vpn.jiwa.com.au:25566
#729 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> There is no MC server running at that address Australican
#730 [18:37] <Australican> I inserted a space in the text where I shouldn't have between jiwa and the period.
#731 [18:38] <reedlepee> umm i go to start then i click run then i type the %appdata% then i click enter then i click minecraft then i click bin then i click minecraft agan but it says windows cant load it
#732 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Got a program like Winrar/winzip or 7zip?
#733 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Open minecraft.jar in one of those programs
#734 [18:39] <reedlepee> ummm i think it automaticly opens with winrar on mine and this was never an issue befor
#735 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Right click on minecraft.jar, make sure the option "open with winrar" is there
#736 [18:40] <reedlepee> ok ill try
#737 [18:40] <Australican> sorry, I didn't read your reply properly. That's a bother, isn't it.
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#739 [18:41] <reedlepee> yea kindda i dont understant what your telling me to do im not the sharppest tool in the shed if you o what i mean
#740 [18:42] <Australican> The survival version without the port seemed to work a few minutes ago.
#741 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Right click on Minecraft.jar, choose Open with -> Winrar
#742 [18:42] <reedlepee> ok
#743 [18:43] <Australican> I figured I was doing something wrong.
#744 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Australican - Nope
#745 [18:44] <reedlepee> yay i got it thank you so much also how do you like uninstall mods?
#746 [18:44] <Australican> Moving on to a different server, then. Thanks for the help!
#747 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Do a Force Update through the launcher's options menu. It'll redownload fresh, unmodified minecraft files
#748 [18:44] <reedlepee> thanks your the best bye by! :)
#749 [18:45] * GreyVulpine waves
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#752 [18:51] <FISH_FIRE> hello all i have a problem... i just got minecraft working on my computer.... now when i play for about 5 min. it crashes... i did get an error report i can up load... can any one help?
#753 [18:53] <FISH_FIRE> this is my error link.... http://mibpaste.com/JAcwu6
#754 [18:53] <FISH_FIRE> this is my error link.... http://mibpaste.com/JAcwu6
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#757 [18:57] <FISH_FIRE> ok i tried to update my
#758 [18:58] <FISH_FIRE> MC files and rstart and it crashed again. so i guess i'm using to old a computer?
#759 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#760 [19:00] <FISH_FIRE> ok thanks guys.
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#762 [19:02] <clarjon1> That went suprisingly easy.
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#764 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> helped him get to that point last night
#765 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> using a mobility... 9700?
#766 [19:08] <sam> Kealper could i ask another favor?
#767 [19:08] <Kealper> :o
#768 [19:08] <Kealper> sure
#769 [19:08] <sam> u said because my name had ! marks in it it didnt work minecraft right?
#770 [19:09] <Kealper> yeah
#771 [19:10] <sam> well i changed my name so there is no more ! marks but the same thing keeps on happening i would use the download client but i cant download mods and stuff
#772 [19:10] <Kealper> well, when you change your name, your profile folder is still the same, and the folder's actual name is what matters
#773 [19:10] <sam> oh so can i change that?
#774 [19:10] <Kealper> it's a stupid bug (programming-wise) to have with Minecraft, but such is life
#775 [19:11] <Kealper> and no, the only way to change that folder name is to create a new windows profile from your computer's control panel :/
#776 [19:11] <sam> oh
#777 [19:12] <sam> thats a shame but thanks for the help :D
#778 [19:12] <Kealper> np lol
#779 [19:12] <Kealper> np lol
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#787 [19:29] <Cyndre> looks like there is a bug in the minecraft server - when I log in my chickens will hatch eggs based on my last login time and basically freeze it out - is this fixed and I should download the server file again or no?
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#789 [19:33] <Cyndre> anyone have a link to the server buglist?
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#791 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.1
#792 [19:34] <MinecraftCreepUser> Anybody confirm that paintings crash the game?
#793 [19:34] <MinecraftCreepUser> Hello?
#794 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I've had paintings crash the game for me
#795 [19:35] <MinecraftCreepUser> I'm talking about Spawn Eggs.
#796 [19:36] <MinecraftCreepUser> HELLO
#797 [19:36] <Cyndre> what happens is if you setup a chicken farm into a canal then log out for a while when you come back in it spawns thousands of eggs grinding the server to a halt (if you have lava at the end you need to wait for it all to make it there) if you dont have lava you need the mcedit tool to delete them all
#798 [19:37] <MinecraftCreepUser> I tryed a painting (Spawn painting) and it crashed the dark "Saving chunks" screen!
#799 [19:38] <MinecraftCreepUser> Hello Cyndre? GreyVulpine?
#800 [19:39] <Cyndre> MinecraftcreepUser: not sure - never had an issue yet
#801 [19:39] <MinecraftCreepUser> ? Have you tryed Single Player Commands?
#802 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Mods are used at the user's own risk
#803 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> If they crash, it's not minecraft's fault, it's the mod's
#804 [19:40] <MinecraftCreepUser> WHAT? Do you have Minecraft? If so, what version?
#805 [19:40] <Wug> ... lol
#806 [19:40] <Wug> we all have 1.1
#807 [19:41] <Wug> some of us may have backups of other versions
#808 [19:41] <Wug> my backups go back to 1.6
#809 [19:41] <MinecraftCreepUser> GreyVulpine!
#810 [19:41] <Wug> grey is likely the same
#811 [19:41] <MinecraftCreepUser> Shut, do you have Single Player Commands?
#812 [19:42] <Cyndre> new server is unplayable with current bug :(
#813 [19:42] <MinecraftCreepUser> Your server? What bug?
#814 [19:43] <Cyndre> the chicken laying egg issue
#815 [19:43] <MinecraftCreepUser> Why?
#816 [19:44] <Cyndre> imagine 10000 items spawning when you login
#817 [19:44] <MinecraftCreepUser> That happened with Enderdragons too!
#818 [19:44] <Wug> lol
#819 [19:45] <MinecraftCreepUser> MICLEE! MICLEE!
#820 [19:45] <Wug> ... calm down
#821 [19:45] <MinecraftCreepUser> ?
#822 [19:45] <MinecraftCreepUser> DotComCrash is offline.
#823 [19:45] <Wug> dont shout. as voxelhead would say, "the accoustics in here are wonderful."
#824 [19:46] <Wug> acoustics* ?
#825 [19:46] * Wug is unsure of the correct spelling
#825 [19:46] <Kealper> latter
#826 [19:46] <MinecraftCreepUser> I need Miclee!
#827 [19:47] <Kealper> if he hasn't talked yet from you saying his name, he is likely not at his computer at the moment
#828 [19:47] <MinecraftCreepUser> He might be AFK right now.
#829 [19:48] <MinecraftCreepUser> VoxelHead!
#830 [19:48] <Kealper> VoxelHead is a bot
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#833 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Looks like minecraft's got a new support/help page
#834 [19:58] * GreyVulpine wonders if he should bug mollstam/daniel to reinclude #minecrafthelp
#834 [19:59] <Kealper> that's a double-edged sword
#835 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#836 [19:59] <Kealper> on the one hand, we get traffic... on the other hand...... we get traffic... lol
#837 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Be nice to have a break for a little while.
#838 [20:00] <Miclee> Who the hell was 'MinecraftCreepUser'?
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#840 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#841 [20:01] <Kealper> rofl
#842 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> So I guess we're back to official unofficial support?
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#844 [20:25] <clarjon1> http://help.mojang.com/ :D
#845 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure we can change that with a simple email. Question is, Do we want to, and when?
#846 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Personally, I wouldn't mind a hiatus....
#847 [20:28] <clarjon1> a little break...
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#849 [20:31] <xbonesx> could someone help me with setting the time to day constantly?
#850 [20:32] <xbonesx> im running a server with a few plugins
#851 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> look into ntpdate
#852 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ..oh, the in-game time?
#853 [20:34] <xbonesx> yes in game
#854 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Try commandbook with the...
#855 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/CommandBook/Commands -- /time -1 to lock the time
#856 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> er, -l
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#860 [20:48] <Puddles> I got this error message need help - Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 1/25/12 8:20 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.1 OS: Wind
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#862 [20:49] <xbonesx> I have the time command already and it doesn't work
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#866 [20:57] <presonic> Windows 7, new HP laptop, Radeon Graphics, get this: Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#867 [20:57] <xales> presonic: Video card drivers up to date?
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#869 [20:57] <presonic> xales: ya
#870 [20:58] <presonic> I get the OpenGL problem with a lot of games
#871 [20:58] <xales> presonic: does it have one of those dual video card setups? I forget what AMD calls it
#872 [20:58] <presonic> so its not Minecraft specific
#873 [20:58] <xales> presonic: is it a netbook?
#874 [20:58] <presonic> laptop
#875 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> dynamic switchable graphics or some crap
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#879 [21:01] <xales> presonic: Would it happen to be a c660?
#880 [21:04] <presonic> brb, gonna check bios config
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#883 [21:09] <xales> Wug: that is nearly as annoying as AuBot
#884 [21:10] <Wug> I can add exempts though
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#886 [21:24] <xbonesx> GreyVulpine: still no luck with persistent day... :(
#887 [21:25] <Steve[MBA]> xbonesx: are you trying to get it never to go nighttime?
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#893 [21:44] <Steve[MBA]> well ok then :-p
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#895 [21:47] <xbonesx> Steve[MBA]: yes sorry multi-tasking
#896 [21:49] <xbonesx> guess i could always write a script to iniatiate "/time day" at specific intervals... ?
#897 [21:49] <Steve[MBA]> no worries
#898 [21:50] <Steve[MBA]> how are you running the server?
#899 [21:50] <Steve[MBA]> windows/linux?
#900 [21:50] <xbonesx> more specfic?
#901 [21:50] <xbonesx> windows
#902 [21:50] <Steve[MBA]> ok, then my hack wouldnt easily work
#903 [21:50] <xbonesx> is it a script/
#904 [21:50] <xbonesx> ?
#905 [21:50] <Steve[MBA]> yeah
#906 [21:50] <xbonesx> why wouldn't it work then?
#907 [21:51] <Steve[MBA]> you can setup a cronjob that would run once a minute to tell the server to set the time
#908 [21:51] <xbonesx> and i cant do that in windows?
#909 [21:51] <Steve[MBA]> mainly b/c i dont know an easy way to get console input into a forgrounded application in windows
#910 [21:51] <xbonesx> oh right
#911 [21:51] <Steve[MBA]> I use screen on linux to acheive that
#912 [21:52] <xbonesx> i wonder if there is a way to write a line in the script to input the line into the games console?
#913 [21:52] <Steve[MBA]> example: https://github.com/SteveMcGrath/baskit
#914 [21:52] <hmw> xbonesx: An alternative could be to download AutoHotkey and create a keyboard macro for "/time set 0"
#915 [21:52] <xbonesx> hmw: sounds easy enough, hit a key every once in a while
#916 [21:53] <Steve[MBA]> hmw: that would assume that the java console is always forgrounded
#917 [21:53] <hmw> it could even send into the console, but you wouldn't like to have it run while playing on the same machine
#918 [21:53] <Steve[MBA]> exactly
#919 [21:53] <hmw> Steve[MB] if you are op, the simple macro helps a lot.
#920 [21:53] <hmw> (in game)
#921 [21:53] <xbonesx> im surprised there isnt already some kind of plugin for the servers for forcing day constantly
#922 [21:54] <Steve[MBA]> hmw: yeah, assumes that you are in-game as well
#923 [21:54] <hmw> you could even make AutoHotkey find the console, activate it, send stuff and minimize it again
#924 [21:54] <Steve[MBA]> gotcha
#925 [21:54] <hmw> that think (oss) is almost a real programming language
#926 [21:55] <Steve[MBA]> xbonesx: are you running the server on the same box your playing with?
#927 [21:55] <hmw> *thing
#928 [21:55] <xbonesx> what about hey0? i heard of this but haven't undulged into it yet
#929 [21:55] <xbonesx> unfortunately
#930 [21:55] <Steve[MBA]> you mean bukkit
#931 [21:55] <xbonesx> hey0 is bukkit?
#932 [21:55] <Steve[MBA]> yeah
#933 [21:56] <Steve[MBA]> hey0 died a long time ago, bukkit is a fork of that code
#934 [21:56] <xbonesx> oh...
#935 [21:56] <xbonesx> didn't know tha
#936 [21:56] <xbonesx> that*
#937 [21:56] <Steve[MBA]> you got bukkit and not Spout/Glowstone
#938 [21:56] <Steve[MBA]> *now
#939 [21:57] <xbonesx> am i still muted?
#940 [21:57] <Steve[MBA]> nope
#941 [21:57] <xbonesx> lol
#942 [21:57] <xbonesx> didnt know three lines within 5 seconds was spamming
#943 [21:57] <xbonesx> lmao
#944 [21:57] <Steve[MBA]> be careful about the spamming ;)
#945 [21:57] <Steve[MBA]> lol, neither did i ;)
#946 [21:57] <xbonesx> lol no prob
#947 [21:58] <Steve[MBA]> anyway, right now bukkit is pretty much the way to go
#948 [21:59] <xbonesx> I have a 2.5 intel duo, 4gbram, that i could install linux on and run the server from that... think it would be sufficient for 5 players, one possibly two coming from my own network?
#949 [21:59] <Steve[MBA]> the downside is that there is a delay from when the vanila server gets updated to when a recommended version of bukkit supporting that version gets released
#950 [21:59] <Steve[MBA]> oh yeah
#951 [21:59] <Steve[MBA]> I run my MC server on 2GB Ram and 1core in a VM
#952 [21:59] <xbonesx> really?
#953 [22:00] <Steve[MBA]> yeah
#954 [22:00] <xbonesx> my desktop is 3.4 quad 8gbram, could i run a vm for the server on the same machine?
#955 [22:00] <Steve[MBA]> if you wanted
#956 [22:00] <Steve[MBA]> the real question is do you always want the server running
#957 [22:01] <Steve[MBA]> if you do, then I would highly recommend running it on a sep box
#958 [22:01] <xbonesx> if i dedicated two cores to the vm I woulndt affect the speed of the server while playing on the same machine?
#959 [22:01] <Steve[MBA]> not really, but again, that depends on persistance
#960 [22:02] <Steve[MBA]> i doubt you always anna have that VM running
#961 [22:02] <Steve[MBA]> *wanna
#962 [22:02] <xbonesx> no but then again i only run my server when i want to play
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#964 [22:03] <Steve[MBA]> i getcha, well its up to you IMHO
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#966 [22:03] <Steve[MBA]> I'm more of a build it and let it run kinda guy
#967 [22:03] <xbonesx> i keep getting complaints about lag on my server... i've dedicated 2048mb to the java platform, what could be causing their lag?
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#969 [22:04] <Steve[MBA]> how are others connecting to the box?
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#971 [22:04] <xbonesx> tunneling via tunngle
#972 [22:04] <Steve[MBA]> ever look into the latency you have with that?
#973 [22:05] <xbonesx> no but i honestly can't imagine its very good
#974 [22:05] <Steve[MBA]> have one of your friends ping the server when they are connected up
#975 [22:05] <Steve[MBA]> I'd be willing to bet your latency is over 100ms
#976 [22:05] <xbonesx> from within the game or cmd on windows?
#977 [22:05] <Wug> ;addalt rev-lemon lemon-rev
#978 [22:05] <WugBot> Registered lemon-rev as alt nick of rev-lemon.
#979 [22:05] <Steve[MBA]> cmd on windows
#980 [22:05] <rev-lemon> lol
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#982 [22:05] <Steve[MBA]> xbonesx: you may be better off setting the server up with a player whitelist and exposing the port from your router
#983 [22:05] <rev-lemon> sorry wug :)
#984 [22:06] <xbonesx> would they be pinging the virtual ip that is given by tungle or my external ip?
#985 [22:06] <Wug> rev-lemon: feh
#986 [22:06] <Steve[MBA]> the IP that they are connecting to the MC server on
#987 [22:07] <xbonesx> lol i tried to "/ping" from with the game and all it said was pong! on the screen, got a kick out of that
#988 [22:07] <xbonesx> within*
#989 [22:07] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#990 [22:08] <xbonesx> since its tunneling if i pinged the virtual ip from my own machine does it go out and come back in? or is the virtual ip i get actually my own machine?
#991 [22:08] <Steve[MBA]> the tunneled IP should be what they are connecting to, so thats what you need them to ping
#992 [22:08] <xbonesx> right but what if i pinged it?
#993 [22:09] <Steve[MBA]> wont give you anything
#994 [22:09] <Steve[MBA]> the IP is local to you
#995 [22:09] <xbonesx> right
#996 [22:09] <Steve[MBA]> ;)
#997 [22:10] <xbonesx> well thanks for the info, going to continuing searching the net for a solution to the constant day
#998 [22:10] <Steve[MBA]> yeah, sorry there isnt an easy solution for you
#999 [22:10] <xbonesx> one last ?
#1000 [22:10] <Steve[MBA]> shoot away
#1001 [22:11] <Steve[MBA]> im just sitting here wantching the g/f play skyrim :-p
#1002 [22:11] <xbonesx> if i ran the server from a linux in a vm would that help with the lag or would there actually be more because i have to run both my own os and the vm?
#1003 [22:12] <Steve[MBA]> I would be willing to bet that the tunnel is causing enough entropy to add a bit of lag
#1004 [22:12] <Steve[MBA]> hence the NATting idea
#1005 [22:12] <Steve[MBA]> just expose the server to the net
#1006 [22:12] <Steve[MBA]> then you could use something like dyndns.org to get a domain for your external IP incase your ISP changes it
#1007 [22:13] <xbonesx> costly?
#1008 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> dyndns is no longer free
#1009 [22:13] <Steve[MBA]> free
#1010 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to find another solution
#1011 [22:13] <xbonesx> ^^
#1012 [22:13] <Steve[MBA]> GreyVulpine: dyndns.org is free, you just cant use more than 2 domains
#1013 [22:13] * GreyVulpine coughs and shakes
#1013 [22:13] <Steve[MBA]> or subdomains, rather
#1014 [22:14] <Steve[MBA]> uhm...you sure, I have never paid for the service
#1015 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure. It's been recently changed
#1016 [22:14] <Steve[MBA]> like how recent?
#1017 [22:14] <xbonesx> price?
#1018 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Those that had a free account are grandfathered in.
#1019 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Fairly recent.. about a month now
#1020 [22:14] <Steve[MBA]> well my current accts were built in Sept
#1021 [22:14] <Steve[MBA]> aaah
#1022 [22:15] <Steve[MBA]> ok, well some sort of dynamic DNS service
#1023 [22:15] <Steve[MBA]> no-ip.com looks free
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#1025 [22:16] <xbonesx> and with something like that i wouldnt need a tunneling service? but if i did that wouldnt that expose my own pc since i run it from it?
#1026 [22:16] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#1027 [22:16] <Steve[MBA]> no, you only port fwd the minecraft server's port
#1028 [22:16] <Kealper> rawr
#1029 [22:17] <Steve[MBA]> and it would remove the need for a tunneling service
#1030 [22:17] <Jackson413> how do you hide your ip on an irc client?
#1031 [22:17] <Steve[MBA]> Jackson413: you dont
#1032 [22:17] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1033 [22:17] <Kealper> on this network, you don't
#1034 [22:17] <Steve[MBA]> or you proxy it
#1035 [22:17] <xbonesx> but what about the people connecting, they wouldn't need the tunneling either?
#1036 [22:17] <Wug> only way youd expose your computer by running a server is if you did something yucky like use hamachi
#1037 [22:17] <Jackson413> q me
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#1039 [22:17] <Wug> Kealper: :>
#1040 [22:17] <Steve[MBA]> xbonesx: correct
#1041 [22:17] <Wug> I did a thing
#1042 [22:17] <Kealper> Steve[MBA]: yeah but proxies are iffy on this network, they run proxy monitors
#1043 [22:18] <Steve[MBA]> Kealper: true, just making a gen statement
#1044 [22:18] <Steve[MBA]> Jackson413: why are you worried about your ext IP?
#1045 [22:18] <Wug> Kealper: ctrl+t\n/server wug.me\n/join #derp
#1046 [22:18] <Steve[MBA]> unless you are running naked on the net, you should be fine
#1047 [22:19] <Kealper> Wug: do i gotsta?
#1048 [22:19] <Wug> Kealper: ill show you a thing
#1049 [22:20] <Wug> you might shit a brick when you see the thing
#1050 [22:21] <Steve[MBA]> lulz
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#1053 [22:27] <Jackson413> to you smart peopel
#1054 [22:28] <Jackson413> im running win 7 x64, do i need 64x java?
#1055 [22:28] <Jackson413> and im also using chrome
#1056 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Would be recommended
#1057 [22:28] <Jackson413> which is 32x apparently
#1058 [22:29] <Jackson413> but a 64x java doesnt work with a 32x browser
#1059 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#1060 [22:29] <Jackson413> what do i do then?
#1061 [22:29] <Jackson413> chrome only is in 32
#1062 [22:30] * |Kiikun| sugests runnign the client and not the weblauncher anyway :P
#1062 [22:30] <Jackson413> i hate the weblauncher
#1063 [22:30] <Jackson413> it is the reason why people get std's
#1064 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> then whats chrome have to do with it? o.o;
#1065 [22:30] <Jackson413> its 32 bit
#1066 [22:31] <Jackson413> i wont be able to run anything java on it
#1067 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> yes.. and thus only can use 32bit java.
#1068 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> you can have both 32 and 64 bit java installed.
#1069 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> the download shoudl use the 64bit by default. and webbrowser goes for the 32bit
#1070 [22:32] <Jackson413> ahhh
#1071 [22:32] <Jackson413> ok
#1072 [22:32] <Jackson413> is there a specific link for both?
#1073 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> :j
#1074 [22:32] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1075 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> just download the x64 and x86 vers :P
#1076 [22:33] <Jackson413> online offline or kernal
#1077 [22:33] * |Kiikun| still doesnt know who started the whole 'x64' as tag for 64bit.... but think they shoudl have though harder
#1077 [22:33] <Jackson413> online offline or kernal
#1078 [22:33] <Jackson413> .online offline or kernal
#1079 [22:33] <|Kiikun|> online, since youre already online for the 32bit
#1080 [22:33] <Jackson413> can anyone see this?
#1081 [22:34] <Steve[MBA]> you can have 64bit and 32bit java installed
#1082 [22:34] <Jackson413> i cant see what im writing, i think this irc client is derping
#1083 [22:35] <Steve[MBA]> |Kiikun|: thank intel ;)
#1084 [22:35] <|Kiikun|> Jackson413: i blame your irc client :P
#1085 [22:35] <Steve[MBA]> |Kiikun|: agreed
#1086 [22:35] * |Kiikun| has never had such derpery with mirc :3
#1086 [22:35] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1087 [22:36] * Steve[MBA] stays quiet about irc clients
#1087 [22:36] * |Kiikun| waves the troll flag
#1087 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> wug called me a toll, might as well live up to it XD
#1088 [22:36] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1089 [22:38] <Wug> I'm playing around on another irc network
#1090 [22:38] <Wug> doing things most trollish
#1091 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> Wug: what net? dalnet?
#1092 [22:39] <Steve[MBA]> lol
#1093 [22:39] <Steve[MBA]> I think it's WugNet
#1094 [22:39] <Steve[MBA]> based on what I was seeing earlier ;)
#1095 [22:40] <Wug> yeah, its wugnet
#1096 [22:40] <Wug> I'm playing with /os raw because I'm some sort of terrible person
#1097 [22:40] <Steve[MBA]> lolol
#1098 [22:41] <Steve[MBA]> you could always: /exec cat /proc/kcore
#1099 [22:41] <|Kiikun|> os raw = send raw command to server?
#1100 [22:41] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1101 [22:42] <Wug> the ircd drops root and wont be able to access /proc/kcore
#1102 [22:42] <Wug> /os raw takes its arguments and dumps them into the server uplink
#1103 [22:42] <Wug> /os raw :OperServ KILL Wug :derp
#1104 [22:43] <Steve[MBA]> lol
#1105 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> so basicly mirc's /raw
#1106 [22:43] <Wug> |Kiikun|: yes, except you're doing it from a server instead of a client
#1107 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> ...oooohhhh
#1108 [22:44] <Wug> so if you did something retarded from a client, the server will just ignore you
#1109 [22:44] <Wug> whereas if you do it from the server, it will go right ahead and do it anyway
#1110 [22:44] <Wug> things will usually break horrible
#1111 [22:44] <Wug> y*
#1112 [22:44] <Wug> (dont change operserv's nick to a number, it doesnt like that at all)
#1113 [22:45] <Wug> the example you get from /os help raw is "/msg OperServ RAW :OperServ OPERWALL :My admin is a loser"
#1114 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1115 [22:46] <Steve[MBA]> ooh ooh: screen -dmS mc_server 'java -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui';python irc_send.py server.log
#1116 [22:46] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1117 [22:47] <Steve[MBA]> irc spam++ ;)
#1118 [22:48] <Wug> I'm pretty sure I could figure out a way to pipe toilet into global
#1119 [22:48] <Wug> that would be pretty amusing
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#1121 [22:49] <Steve[MBA]> ^_^
#1122 [22:56] <Jackson413> what is the difference between 64x and 32x?
#1123 [22:58] <Jackson413> Wug, if you ever wanna go on a trollrun with me
#1124 [22:58] <Jackson413> lemme know
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#1126 [22:59] <owufail> Hey
#1127 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> Jackson413: x64 = 64 bit. x86 = 32 bit, bassed off the model numbers of the old chipset lines. 286 386 486... pentium is technicly 586.
#1128 [22:59] <owufail> Can someone help me install/get my mysql database working on my Linux Centos 6.2 Dedi?
#1129 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> ?find owufail how to install mysql on centos 6.2
#1130 [23:00] <VoxelHead> owufail, http://is.gd/x9nOMY
#1131 [23:00] <owufail> Been looking at guides for a good 4 hours
#1132 [23:00] <owufail> I have mysql installed
#1133 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> this is #minecrafthelp ^^;;;
#1134 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> not sqlhelp or linuxhelp
#1135 [23:01] <owufail> I don't know how to setup my plugins for it
#1136 [23:01] <owufail> This is minecrafthelp
#1137 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> owufail: then ask in #bukkit
#1138 [23:01] <owufail> I am getting help to further my server
#1139 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#1140 [23:01] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1141 [23:01] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1143 [23:01] <owufail> ...
#1144 [23:02] <Steve[MBA]> |Kiikun|: Pentium is technically 686
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#1148 [23:02] <Steve[MBA]> I cant remember what 586 was, I think that was pre-MMX
#1149 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> thoguht the originals were 586. later ones went 686
#1150 [23:02] <yoda902> Do I need to do anything to update my game world from 1.0 to 1.1?
#1151 [23:03] <Steve[MBA]> pentium pre-MMX == 586
#1152 [23:03] <Steve[MBA]> that was only until 166Mhz or so
#1153 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> Pentium is only Pentium because Intel could not trademark the number 586
#1154 [23:07] <yoda902> I've already updated the game, but do I need to do anything to update my saved world from 1.0?
#1155 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> AMD and Cyrix were making 586s in advance of the Intel 80586; Intel sued and lost, so they needed a trademark. The original name was to be 586; pent = 5; hence Pentium.
#1156 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> yoda902 - Nope
#1157 [23:08] <DopeGhoti> There was some guessing that the next line would be Hexium, but it ended up just being Pentium 2. And because Intel just got dumber and dumber with naming, we now have ridiculous things like "Core 2 Duo" for four-core CPUs.
#1158 [23:09] <yoda902> GreyVulpine- Thanks
#1159 [23:10] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: agreed
#1160 [23:11] <Steve[MBA]> ok, so last glass of wine, bring on them questions!
#1161 [23:11] * DopeGhoti goes back to vaguely half-planning the setup of a Dwarf Fortress server
#1161 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> dwarf.. fortress server?
#1162 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Since when is DF mp?
#1163 [23:14] * DopeGhoti gestures vaguely toward the last terminalful or so of #[bleep]
#1163 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Huh, neat
#1164 [23:16] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#1165 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
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#1171 [23:54] <Steve[MBA]> woo, yeah! bottle of wine + coding = entertainment
#1172 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> Steve[MBA]: whatcha codin'?
#1173 [23:56] <Steve[MBA]> mostly some additions for bukget
#1174 [23:56] <Steve[MBA]> its still being utilized little enough that I can make changes and quickly work to make devs lives easier
#1175 [23:57] <Steve[MBA]> currently working to have a sqlite db generated as part of the plugin parsing. that way devs can ref the db if they wanna cache the whole lot
#1176 [23:58] <Steve[MBA]> apparently parsing a 3+MB JSON file takes a while in java