#MinecraftHelp > 2012-02-11
#1 [00:02] <zkxs> lol, he couldn't figure out how to FTP, I guess?
#2 [00:02] <xales> I'm amazed by the stupidity of these people.
#3 [00:03] <xales> :/
#4 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> No you're not..
#5 [00:10] <oldtopman> ??< fubar/hamachi
#6 [00:11] <xales> GreyVulpine: he went into #dw before he came here.
#7 [00:11] <xales> :\
#8 [00:11] * GreyVulpine facepalms
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#10 [01:06] <Wug> lol bosscraftpvp still hasnt made it to beastnode
#11 [01:06] <Wug> hes tried #esper too apparently
#12 [01:07] <Wug> this channel has been awfully quiet lately
#13 [01:07] <Magiobiwan> Yeah.
#14 [01:07] <Magiobiwan> Apparently nobody needs help
#15 [01:07] <Wug> finally
#16 [01:08] <Wug> we've fixed all of the minecrafts
#17 [01:08] <Magiobiwan> Just wait.
#18 [01:08] <Wug> there are 0 unupdated graphics drivers
#19 [01:08] <Wug> and 0 broken or out of date java installations
#20 [01:08] * Magiobiwan has an out of date Java
#20 [01:08] <Magiobiwan> I don;t have the PC edition of Minecraft though.
#21 [01:08] <Magiobiwan> I play the Pocket Edition right now.
#22 [01:08] <Wug> lol
#23 [01:09] <Wug> you should grab it, its pretty epic
#24 [01:09] <Magiobiwan> I have iOS so I don't have the newest Edition of the PE
#25 [01:09] <Magiobiwan> I'm going to ASAP
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#27 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> One of the reasons why traffic's tapered off, is that Mojang's been directing support to the minecraftforums. Haven't been able to get in contact with Lydia at all
#28 [01:17] <Wug> you hang out in #risucraft right? jebs there sometimes
#29 [01:18] <Wug> you might want to ambush him next time he joins and try to arrange a thing
#30 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> I idle there...
#31 [01:18] <Wug> close enough
#32 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Though I usually have #mch.br open on top of it
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#35 [01:35] <Wug> fizzbuzz
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#37 [01:37] <Dylan> OMFG!
#38 [01:38] <Dylan> we have VERY slow vividwireless
#39 [01:38] <Dylan> mum just turned down ADSL2+ and it was cheaper!
#40 [01:38] <Dylan> sorry not ADSL2+ Fibre Optic!
#41 [01:41] <Wug> I'm glad you've finally given up this whole jeb thing
#42 [01:42] * Grim_Reaper hugs Wug
#42 [01:42] <Dylan> xales said to
#43 [01:42] <Dylan> xales said to
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#46 [01:42] <Dylan> ...
#47 [01:42] <Wug> Dylan: I said to too
#48 [01:42] <Wug> not sure why you didnt do it then
#49 [01:42] <Dylan> ...
#50 [01:43] <Dylan> Im angry at my mum
#51 [01:43] <Wug> speaking of xales
#52 [01:43] <Wug> XALES
#53 [01:43] <Wug> XALES I KNOW YOU ARE THERE
#54 [01:44] <Dylan> ...
#55 [01:45] <Dylan> Wug he is away
#56 [01:50] <Dylan> Wug, are you intrested in being a part of our youtube channel and/or moderate #BoB (Brotherhood of Blocks) for when we get popular?
#57 [01:50] <Wug> I could moderate #bob
#58 [01:50] <Wug> but I have only the smallest of youtube presences
#59 [01:50] <Dylan> ok
#60 [01:51] * Grim_Reaper prods Wug
#60 [01:51] * Wug is prodd'd
#60 [01:51] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#61 [01:52] <Wug> wat
#62 [01:53] <Grim_Reaper> Nu hugs?
#63 [01:54] * Dylan hugs Grim_Reaper
#63 [01:54] * Grim_Reaper hugs Dylan back
#63 [01:55] * Wug does that thing with gravity :3
#63 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> sv_gravity -1?
#64 [01:56] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#65 [01:56] * Grim_Reaper waves to GreyVulpine
#65 [01:56] * GreyVulpine vanishes, was only a figment of Grim_Reaper's imagination
#65 [01:56] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#66 [01:57] <Dylan> -_-
#67 [01:57] <Grim_Reaper> Why doesn't anybody wanna be fwiends with meh
#68 [01:57] <Dylan> i do
#69 [01:57] <Grim_Reaper> <3
#70 [01:59] <Dylan> Grim_Reaper, Do you want to help moderate #BoB?
#71 [01:59] <Grim_Reaper> Errm. Sure. Im happy to help where it's needed :3
#72 [01:59] <Dylan> ok
#73 [02:03] <Wug> eeew source hax
#74 [02:03] <Wug> sudo apt-wug gravity 1/20
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#78 [02:38] <Wug> gee it sure is quiet in here
#79 [02:38] <Wug> you know, maybe a short vacation wouldnt hurt
#80 [02:38] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#81 [02:38] <Grim_Reaper> Inb4 tons of users join
#82 [02:38] <Wug> yeah right
#83 [02:38] * Magiobiwan is using the break fromt he flood to play PE
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#84 [02:43] <Magiobiwan> So, does a Voice flag mean you're availiable to help someone?
#85 [02:45] <Wug> more or less
#86 [02:45] <Wug> +v users are helpers
#87 [02:45] <Wug> +o users are mostly helpers too
#88 [02:45] <Wug> aubot, greybot, voxelhead, and wugbot are bots
#89 [02:45] <Wug> also statistics
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#92 [02:50] <Sarahnd> Anyone know how to help with fatal error 5: writing error?
#93 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error?
#94 [02:53] <Wug> GreyVulpine: that might be the full error
#95 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Always more...
#96 [02:53] <Wug> Sarahnd: is this classic or the current version? does this by any chance happen when downloading packages?
#97 [02:53] <Sarahnd> An error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve the issue. Fatal error occurred (5): Writing error
#98 [02:53] <Sarahnd> classic
#99 [02:53] <Sarahnd> Yes
#100 [02:53] <Sarahnd> Packages
#101 [02:53] <Wug> has it worked before
#102 [02:54] <Wug> on this computer, I mean
#103 [02:54] <Sarahnd> This is a new computer, not yet on this one
#104 [02:54] <Wug> is the computer a mac?
#105 [02:54] <Sarahnd> I have had fatal errors before, I just deleted .bin and then it worked
#106 [02:54] <Wug> its a little different with classic
#107 [02:55] <Wug> is the computer a mac?
#108 [02:55] <Sarahnd> Not this time. I have have deleted my entire minecraft folder, deleted and reinstalled java
#109 [02:55] <Sarahnd> Very confused
#110 [02:55] <Wug> probably not because you reinstalled java
#111 [02:55] <Wug> do you have a ! in your windows username
#112 [02:55] <Sarahnd> PC
#113 [02:55] <Sarahnd> Where would I find this windows username?
#114 [02:56] <Sarahnd> Thanks for helping, by the way
#115 [02:56] <Wug> its the name of the account on the computer. if you open the start menu, it should be in the upper right
#116 [02:56] <Wug> next to your little icon thiny
#117 [02:56] <Wug> thingy*
#118 [02:56] <Wug> also, what browser are you using
#119 [02:57] <Wug> if you're using IE, you might want to try something else (something that doesnt suck cough cough)
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#122 [02:59] <tyteen4a03> lol, been inactive lately
#123 [02:59] <Wug> Sarahnd: still there?
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#125 [03:03] <Sarahnd> Woops lost internet
#126 [03:04] <Wug> what was the last thing you read
#127 [03:04] <Sarahnd> I said I had plain letters in my windows username
#128 [03:05] <Sarahnd> I'm sorry for the crappy internet
#129 [03:05] <Wug> whats the last message I sent that you got
#130 [03:06] <Sarahnd> Whether or not I had a ! in the windows username, and then directions to it
#131 [03:06] <Wug> ok. since its probably not that
#132 [03:06] <Wug> what browser are you using? IE by any chance
#133 [03:06] <Sarahnd> Firefox
#134 [03:06] <Wug> :browser
#135 [03:06] <Wug> ok, probably not that either
#136 [03:06] <Wug> do you have any firewalls
#137 [03:06] <Wug> or AV software
#138 [03:07] <Sarahnd> Any way to check that?
#139 [03:07] <Sarahnd> It says I have a windows firewall
#140 [03:07] <Wug> is the computer completely yours or does someone else manage it
#141 [03:07] <Sarahnd> completely mine
#142 [03:07] <Wug> if its completely yours then it probably doesnt
#143 [03:07] <Wug> ok, open the task manager
#144 [03:07] <Sarahnd> ok
#145 [03:08] <Wug> you can do this without having to go through the options screen with ctrl+shift+escape btw
#146 [03:08] <Sarahnd> It's too much of a reflex by now XD
#147 [03:08] <Wug> go to the processes tab and check if there is a process called rlvknlg.exe
#148 [03:09] <Sarahnd> No, but it seems I have two Java processes running...
#149 [03:09] <Sarahnd> jusched
#150 [03:09] <Wug> thats the update thing
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#152 [03:09] <Wug> responsible for weekly java updates
#153 [03:10] <Sarahnd> ah
#154 [03:10] <Wug> anyway, try deleting all of your browsing history and cache and whatnot
#155 [03:10] <Sarahnd> ok
#156 [03:10] <Wug> I dont know how to do that in firefox :P I use chrome
#157 [03:10] <Sarahnd> I'll figure it out, one sec
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#160 [03:12] <Sarahnd> Cleared
#161 [03:12] <Wug> still doesnt work?
#162 [03:13] <Sarahnd> one sec
#163 [03:13] <Sarahnd> God damn it
#164 [03:13] <Sarahnd> Same message
#165 [03:13] <Sarahnd> I know it's this computer, never had error 5 on the last one
#166 [03:14] <Sarahnd> Is it something I have done to this computer, or was is programmed like this do you think?
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#168 [03:15] <Wug> im looking up the error to see if theres anything online
#169 [03:16] <Wug> blugh theres pretty much nothing
#170 [03:16] <Sarahnd> Yeah this was my last ditch effort.
#171 [03:16] <Wug> have you tried a different browser? try installing chrome and seeing if it works there
#172 [03:16] <Sarahnd> ok
#173 [03:16] <Wug> :browsers
#174 [03:16] <WugBot> browsers: Don't use Internet Explorer or Safari, each has a set of irritating issues that interfere with minecraft. Use one of the following instead:
#175 [03:16] <WugBot> browsers: Firefox: http://mozilla.org/en-US/ -- Chrome: http://google.com/chrome -- Opera: http://www.opera.com/
#176 [03:16] <Wug> you could try opera too if you feel like
#177 [03:16] <Sarahnd> internet test
#178 [03:17] <Wug> still there
#179 [03:17] <Wug> you can use ;ping
#180 [03:17] <Wug> wugbot will respont
#181 [03:17] <Wug> respond*
#182 [03:19] <Sarahnd> Hang on page isnt responding
#183 [03:19] <Sarahnd> trying again
#184 [03:20] <Sarahnd> Hm. Maybe the page is busy. It isn't responding
#185 [03:20] <Wug> you're still here
#186 [03:21] <Sarahnd> Yes
#187 [03:21] <Wug> both chrome and operas pages work for me
#188 [03:21] <Sarahnd> I'll try opera instead
#189 [03:21] <Sarahnd> Weird
#190 [03:21] <Sarahnd> Opera opened, not chrome
#191 [03:21] <Wug> you might also want an antivirus program -.-
#192 [03:21] <Sarahnd> I have mcafee
#193 [03:22] <Wug> uhh
#194 [03:22] <Wug> -.- I did ask you before if you had one and you said you didnt
#195 [03:22] <Wug> try disabling mcafee and see if minecraft works with it off
#196 [03:22] <Wug> if it does you can add an exception and that should work for you
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#198 [03:24] <Sarahnd> All right opera loading
#199 [03:26] <Sarahnd> Of course it would stop responding
#200 [03:28] <Sarahnd> : (
#201 [03:28] <Sarahnd> Opera doesn't work either. Same error
#202 [03:30] <Sarahnd> test
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#207 [03:57] <herrmeyer> hi
#208 [03:57] <herrmeyer> need some help
#209 [03:58] <herrmeyer> when i start minecraft there is a message with a internal client error
#210 [03:59] <lemon-rev> hm
#211 [03:59] <lemon-rev> herrmeyer can you see if you can get to minecraft.net with broswer please ?
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#217 [06:00] <fjulle> Cant buy minecraft ... When i use mastercard as payment method it reroutes me to moneybookers, and when i use paypal it tells me that the merchant doesnt accept paypal! My credit cards just fine, got lots of credits on it! Just checked!
#218 [06:10] <Wug> moneybookers is the service mojang uses to process credit card payments
#219 [06:11] <Wug> i.e. paying through them is normal
#220 [06:11] <Wug> you may also find the following information useful
#221 [06:11] <Wug> :payment/stopped
#222 [06:11] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#223 [06:11] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#224 [06:11] <Wug> this isnt your issue yet but you may find that it happens after you try to pay
#225 [06:15] <fjulle> ok
#226 [06:15] <fjulle> thx
#227 [06:15] <fjulle> but ive never had any problems using paypal before
#228 [06:16] <fjulle> also to buy from abroad
#229 [06:17] <Wug> mojang definitely accepts paypal
#230 [06:17] <Wug> I dont know why its not working
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#232 [06:17] <Wug> we see errors with the transaction a lot but they're usually stopped payments
#233 [06:18] <fjulle> thats a payment somebody stopped themselves?
#234 [06:18] <fjulle> "Return to merchant and try a different payment method We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
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#238 [06:42] <tyteen4a03> EyesIsMine: llong time no see
#239 [06:44] <EyesIsMine> indeed
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#247 [07:28] <Marian> hello guys. i play minecraft for 2 months, my game never crash before, now my game crash and when i opened the game all my save gone
#248 [07:28] <Marian> and is a new world save insteed mine with nothing in it
#249 [07:29] <Marian> wher is my old game save ?
#250 [07:34] <Marian> someone to help me ?
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#252 [07:51] <Wug> Marian: hello
#253 [07:51] <Wug> :nullsave
#254 [07:51] <Wug> ?? nullsave
#255 [07:51] <Wug> ;search mcedit
#256 [07:51] <WugBot> Matches for "mcedit": mcedit
#257 [07:51] <Wug> :mcedit
#258 [07:51] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.
#259 [07:51] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit's download page is here: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#260 [07:52] <Wug> Marian: are you familiar with mcedit
#261 [08:01] <Marian> hello wug
#262 [08:01] <Marian> i`m not ofc but i think is simple to use ... ?
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#264 [08:02] <Marian> after i download what i need to do ?
#265 [08:03] <Wug> open the save you lost with mcedit and save it
#266 [08:03] <Wug> you will be able to play it again
#267 [08:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Marian: just opne the world and... *ninjad*
#268 [08:04] <Marian> ok 1 sec
#269 [08:12] <Marian> ok so i open mcedit
#270 [08:12] <Marian> and i have crate new orld load world ....
#271 [08:13] <Marian> i click load world ?
#272 [08:13] <Wug> yes
#273 [08:14] <Marian> and is open my save but with nothing i had before in it
#274 [08:14] <Wug> ye
#275 [08:14] <Marian> and what i do after ?
#276 [08:15] <Wug> just save mcedit and close
#277 [08:16] <Marian> i don t have any save option ther
#278 [08:16] <Wug> in mcedit? just use ctrl+s
#279 [08:16] <Marian> yes
#280 [08:16] <Marian> ok
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#282 [08:16] <Marian> now i open minecraft?
#283 [08:16] <Wug> close mcedit
#284 [08:16] <Wug> then open minecraft
#285 [08:17] <Marian> i did and i`m still in a random place with nothing what i had before in it
#286 [08:18] <Wug> not much you can do about that except use a tool to spawn the items back
#287 [08:18] <Marian> ?
#288 [08:19] <Wug> you can use mcedit to move your spawn and give yourself the blocks back
#289 [08:19] <Wug> you can move the player too
#290 [08:19] <Wug> but you cant get your old stuff back
#291 [08:20] <Marian> but this is the point to get all my old stuff back ...
#292 [08:20] <Wug> sorry but you cant
#293 [08:21] <Wug> it was lost when the world was damaged
#294 [08:21] <Marian> no way
#295 [08:21] <Marian> wtf
#296 [08:21] <Marian> you mean stuff ... places i build or what ?
#297 [08:22] <Wug> the places will still be there
#298 [08:22] <Wug> you'll have to find them though
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#300 [08:22] <Wug> it would be easier to move your spawn with mcedit
#301 [08:22] <Marian> ok i serch for my builds
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#303 [08:23] <TeamAvo> hi
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#305 [08:23] <Wug> can I help you with something
#306 [08:24] <Wug> or are you here to troll
#307 [08:24] <TeamAvo> is there any minecraft server hosters that accept OneBip?
#308 [08:24] <Wug> I have no idea
#309 [08:24] <Wug> you'd have to ask the hosters
#310 [08:25] <nesmoth> hi guys, been trying to buy Minecraft with my credict card but im getting an error all the time, its there any other way or site to get it?
#311 [08:25] <Wug> nesmoth: theres paypal
#312 [08:25] <Wug> what error are you getting
#313 [08:26] * TeamAvo slaps nesmoth around a bit with a large trout
#313 [08:26] <TeamAvo> Nesmoth`
#314 [08:27] <Marian> so i need to wait until all map is loaded than look for my buils with mcedit yep ?
#315 [08:27] <TeamAvo> Nesmoth?
#316 [08:27] <nesmoth> can't use paypal the country where I'm don't support Paypal, the error says that some fields of information are wrong, but dont understand I use all the time my card for other stuffs
#317 [08:27] <Wug> Marian: yeah, then you can move your spawn to them
#318 [08:27] <Wug> nesmoth: double check that everything's right then
#319 [08:28] <Wug> we cant help with payment issues or account issues, were just community support
#320 [08:28] <TeamAvo> a
#321 [08:28] <nesmoth> checked the info several times, evengot blocked the card the other month for trying
#322 [08:29] <TeamAvo> Nesmoth?
#323 [08:29] <Wug> can you contact the company and see if theres a typo or something
#324 [08:29] <nesmoth> yeah I know, just wanna see if there is another site with a different payment system
#325 [08:29] <Wug> nope, just paypal and credit card
#326 [08:29] <TeamAvo> Nesmoth??
#327 [08:29] <nesmoth> contact mojang?
#328 [08:30] <TeamAvo> Nesmoth????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
#329 [08:30] <Wug> nesmoth: contact the credit card company
#330 [08:30] <nesmoth> TeamAvo, im here man
#331 [08:31] * TheTFEF touches TeamAvo :o
#331 [08:31] <nesmoth> well... thks anyway guys
#332 [08:32] <TeamAvo> hey
#333 [08:32] <Marian> i press ESC and i cant user fly mode animore
#334 [08:33] <Marian> what i need to press to explore again the mapo
#335 [08:33] <Wug> Marian: the controls for mcedit are rather like the controls for minecraft
#336 [08:33] <Wug> wasd moves
#337 [08:33] <Wug> right click to use the mouse to steer
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#339 [08:34] <TeamAvo> a
#340 [08:34] <TeamAvo> hey
#341 [08:35] <Marian> till now i didn`t finde even a torch ... you are sure i will finde my place ?
#342 [08:37] <Wug> its there somewhere
#343 [08:38] <TeamAvo> guys
#344 [08:38] <Wug> what
#345 [08:38] <TeamAvo> go to http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1016562-does-any-minecraft-hosters-accept-onebip/
#346 [08:39] <Wug> how about you find server hosts and ask them
#347 [08:40] <TeamAvo> that is too much work :D
#348 [08:40] <Wug> ಠ_ಠ
#349 [08:41] <Wug> I don't know and nobody here does
#350 [08:42] <Marian> wug ok i found it
#351 [08:42] <Marian> the only thing i lose it the stuff i had in my inventory in that moment ?
#352 [08:42] <Wug> yeah
#353 [08:43] <Marian> ...shit :) anyway is good
#354 [08:43] <Marian> ok thank you very much
#355 [08:43] <Wug> np
#356 [08:43] <Wug> sorry you lost stuff
#357 [08:43] <Wug> crap happens though
#358 [08:43] <Marian> see you have a nice day
#359 [08:44] <Marian> yea is ok with mcedit i can spawn wher i want ....
#360 [08:44] <Marian> i can t make more stuff :D
#361 [08:44] <Marian> can*
#362 [08:44] <Wug> you can place blocks and mine them later
#363 [08:45] <Marian> i can look with mcedit for good stuff than i spawn ther :D
#364 [08:45] <Marian> anyway thank you
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#367 [09:20] <BossCraft> Can you guys tell me how to get to the server support channel?
#368 [09:21] <Wug> bukkits support channel is #bukkit
#369 [09:22] <BossCraft> Thanks
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#378 [11:00] <Blobehh> MinecraftGame.Net free to grief no staff!!
#379 [11:00] <Blobehh> MinecraftGame.Net free to grief no staff!!
#380 [11:00] <Blobehh> MinecraftGame.Net free to grief no staff!!
#381 [11:00] <Blobehh> MinecraftGame.Net free to grief no staff!!
#382 [11:00] <Blobehh> MinecraftGame.Net free to grief no staff!!
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#384 [11:01] <Boreeas> Blobehh: First of all, don't spam
#385 [11:01] <Boreeas> OR that
#386 [11:04] <Boreeas> No? Ahlright
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#388 [11:12] <DiamondLemon> Can you not pay with paypal if you're in the UK, for a minecraft account?
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#392 [11:37] <Sergey> hi
#393 [11:37] <Sergey> i need to find some basic commands for permissions
#394 [11:38] <Sergey> for example such as time day
#395 [11:38] <Sergey> tp
#396 [11:38] <Sergey> or /spawn
#397 [11:40] <Boreeas> ??> Sergey mods
#398 [11:40] <VoxelHead> Sergey: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#399 [11:40] <VoxelHead> Sergey: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#400 [11:41] <DiamondLemon> Can you not pay with paypal if you're in the UK, for a minecraft account?
#401 [11:41] <Boreeas> DiamondLemon: I don't see why you couldn't, but I'm not 100% sure
#402 [11:41] <DiamondLemon> Will it not work if my PayPal balance is £0
#403 [11:42] <DiamondLemon> (we pay with paypal all the time with that balance)
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#405 [11:44] <Boreeas> No idea
#406 [11:45] <DiamondLemon> Ugh, this is a pain
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#410 [12:00] <wannabemac> Hello.
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#416 [12:25] <BPphotography> Hey can anyone help me with a redstone problem. I have a redstone torch set up, basically it so I can have automatic double doors, the problem is I have an off redstone torch I put a redstone torch underneath and hook it up to my switch and put an inverter there but the redstone torch that I hook up to the inverter stays on. any ideas why ?
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#418 [12:31] <Omega_Guardian> not sure but last I knew there was some bug involving redstone torches and the direction it's facing
#419 [12:34] <BPphotography> hmm ok
#420 [12:35] <BPphotography> I will post some screenshots upon the forum
#421 [12:35] <BPphotography> I am new to MC
#422 [12:35] <BPphotography> but loving it
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#424 [12:38] <FrenchGuy> is it somebody here?
#425 [12:39] <Boreeas> ?? ask
#426 [12:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#427 [12:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#428 [12:39] <FrenchGuy> ok, so i can't connect to minecraft.net
#429 [12:39] <FrenchGuy> i send you the picture where is the message i have
#430 [12:40] <FrenchGuy> http://hapshack.com/?v=BF7SM.png
#431 [12:40] <FrenchGuy> it's a french link
#432 [12:40] <Boreeas> That website is not shwoing me any pictures
#433 [12:41] <FrenchGuy> ok, wait 2 second
#434 [12:41] <Wug> Boreeas: http://hapshack.com/images/BF7SM.png
#435 [12:42] <FrenchGuy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/capturegcf.png/
#436 [12:42] <FrenchGuy> here
#437 [12:42] <Wug> FrenchGuy: that doesnt seem like a normal error message
#438 [12:42] <Boreeas> Mhm
#439 [12:42] <Wug> try a different browser?
#440 [12:42] <FrenchGuy> yeah i know
#441 [12:42] <Boreeas> Oh wait, so that /is/ the actual image?
#442 [12:42] <FrenchGuy> ok, i try now
#443 [12:42] <Boreeas> I thoughht it was something the website displayed
#444 [12:43] <FrenchGuy> same thing with firefox
#445 [12:43] <Boreeas> "This site is running TeamViewer" <- When do you get that error?
#446 [12:43] <FrenchGuy> directly when i go to http://www.minecraft.net
#447 [12:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Boreeas: the hapshack link
#448 [12:44] <Wug> FrenchGuy: thats not normal. do you have any antivirus software
#449 [12:44] <FrenchGuy> yeah, i have Avira antivir
#450 [12:44] <Wug> because if you dont, you might want to look into getting some
#451 [12:44] <FrenchGuy> i did scan
#452 [12:44] <FrenchGuy> with spy bot and Malwarebytes
#453 [12:44] <Wug> can you send a screenshot of the whole page
#454 [12:44] <FrenchGuy> and avira also
#455 [12:44] <FrenchGuy> ok
#456 [12:45] <FrenchGuy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/capture2bk.png/
#457 [12:45] <FrenchGuy> the whole page
#458 [12:45] <BPphotography> Hey here is my problem with the redstone http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1017292-redstone-help-automatic-double-doors/
#459 [12:46] <BPphotography> I did ask but I'm not really good at explaining
#460 [12:46] <BPphotography> so I thought screenshots would help better
#461 [12:46] <Wug> FrenchGuy: that is distinctly not normal
#462 [12:46] <FrenchGuy> yeah :s
#463 [12:46] <Wug> did you pirate minecraft in the past by any chance
#464 [12:47] <FrenchGuy> i tried, but i directly deleted the folders
#465 [12:47] <Wug> did you change your hosts file
#466 [12:47] <FrenchGuy> host file?
#467 [12:48] <Wug> you're on windows right?
#468 [12:48] <FrenchGuy> yep
#469 [12:48] <Wug> open a command prompt
#470 [12:48] <Wug> type "ping minecraft.net"
#471 [12:49] <Wug> what ip address does it resolve to
#472 [12:49] <FrenchGuy> wait 2 seconds
#473 [12:50] <FrenchGuy> omg i cant do the command ping oO
#474 [12:50] <Wug> what happens when you try
#475 [12:50] <FrenchGuy> there is a big problem
#476 [12:50] <FrenchGuy> hum...i can take a screen
#477 [12:50] <FrenchGuy> but it's uin french
#478 [12:50] <FrenchGuy> in*
#479 [12:51] <Wug> did you try the french word for ping
#480 [12:51] <FrenchGuy> it's the same thing
#481 [12:51] <FrenchGuy> but it say that it isn't recognize like a internal or external command
#482 [12:52] <Wug> weird
#483 [12:52] <Wug> your copy of windows is legit right
#484 [12:52] <FrenchGuy> yeah of course
#485 [12:52] <FrenchGuy> i bought my computer with win 7
#486 [12:52] <Wug> try this
#487 [12:52] <Wug> :win/hosts
#488 [12:52] <WugBot> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#489 [12:52] <WugBot> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#490 [12:53] <FrenchGuy> wait x)
#491 [12:54] <FrenchGuy> http://pastebin.com/hMw7vFFJ
#492 [12:55] <Wug> yeah theres your problem
#493 [12:55] <FrenchGuy> explain?
#494 [12:55] <Wug> clear the contents of that file and save it
#495 [12:55] <Wug> next time dont pirate minecraft ;D
#496 [12:56] <FrenchGuy> it's a lesson for me ^^^
#497 [12:56] <Boreeas> <.<
#498 [12:56] <Boreeas> >.>
#499 [12:56] <FrenchGuy> saved failed
#500 [12:58] <Wug> you might have to open notepad as admin
#501 [12:58] <FrenchGuy> same thing
#502 [12:58] <Wug> try deleting it and recreating it
#503 [12:59] <FrenchGuy> how to recreate?
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#505 [12:59] <Wug> just make another file called "hosts"
#506 [12:59] <Wug> empty
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#508 [13:01] <FrenchGuy> the file, i put it ont "etc"?
#509 [13:02] <Wug> yeah
#510 [13:02] <Wug> has to be in the same place
#511 [13:02] <FrenchGuy> same thing, don't want to save
#512 [13:03] <Wug> you deleted the one that was already there right?
#513 [13:04] <FrenchGuy> it's impossible, it says that i have to ben an admin
#514 [13:04] <FrenchGuy> but i AM an admin
#515 [13:04] <Wug> you managed to save to it once
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#517 [13:05] <Wug> not sure how you managed to do it then, but try to do the same thing I guess :P
#518 [13:06] <FrenchGuy> i can't save :'(
#519 [13:06] <FrenchGuy> hum, i take screen, ok?
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#521 [13:06] <Wug> ok
#522 [13:09] <FrenchGuy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/capture4j.png/
#523 [13:09] <FrenchGuy> and$
#524 [13:10] <FrenchGuy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/capture3mr.png/
#525 [13:10] <Wug> try disabling UAC
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#527 [13:10] <FrenchGuy> uac?
#528 [13:10] <Wug> user account control
#529 [13:11] <AlphaAtom> Minecraft PayPal in UK working for everyone?
#530 [13:11] <FrenchGuy> where is it?
#531 [13:11] <Wug> AlphaAtom: maybe? having issues with it?
#532 [13:11] <Wug> FrenchGuy: before you try that, did you follow instructions to change that file before
#533 [13:11] <AlphaAtom> I am
#534 [13:11] <AlphaAtom> I get can't process
#535 [13:12] <Wug> paypal might be having issues or something
#536 [13:12] <AlphaAtom> Also, the currency changes to euros when I select paypal, but it's pounds on all the others
#537 [13:12] <FrenchGuy> hum...i go eating, i'm back in 30 min approximatly, you will be here?
#538 [13:12] <Wug> AlphaAtom: try again later?
#539 [13:12] <Scott> AlphaAtom: Paypal converts it for you, that is why.
#540 [13:12] <Wug> FrenchGuy: I'm about to go to sleep
#541 [13:12] <FrenchGuy> ok
#542 [13:13] <Wug> someone else will be able to help, even if it isnt me
#543 [13:13] <FrenchGuy> hum, so tell me the insctructions now
#544 [13:13] <FrenchGuy> instructions*
#545 [13:13] <Wug> I was wondering if you already followed a guide or something to change that file
#546 [13:13] <Wug> and if you could just follow it again
#547 [13:14] <FrenchGuy> i've never followed a guide
#548 [13:14] <FrenchGuy> it's easy ton find one in google?
#549 [13:14] <FrenchGuy> to*
#550 [13:14] <Wug> you could try that
#551 [13:15] <AlphaAtom> It's still not working, does it require you to actually have money in the balance?
#552 [13:15] <Wug> AlphaAtom: from what I understand, you can configure it to draw money from a bank account if it needs to
#553 [13:15] <FrenchGuy> i have to go, good night guy, and thanks a lot ;)
#554 [13:15] <Wug> but try adding money to the balance and see if that does it
#555 [13:16] <Wug> FrenchGuy: if im not around later and you still need help, just ask for it and stick around
#556 [13:16] <Wug> someone will help you eventually
#557 [13:16] <AlphaAtom> Ugh, it's not my account, I have to ring the person now >_>
#558 [13:16] <Wug> AlphaAtom: :P
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#560 [13:18] <bobsicle0> My minecraft freezes on the title screen menus, but it run great everywhere else, just freezes on title menus.
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#562 [13:34] <Aestie> is here a mojang person online?
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#568 [14:24] <dr_bibble> hello somneone here i have a question
#569 [14:39] <lemon-rev> ask away
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#570 [14:39] <lemon-rev> hahhaaha
#571 [14:39] <lemon-rev> tty
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#573 [14:42] <BroBuzz> Hello, I'm having a problem with my fresh minecraft install
#574 [14:42] <BroBuzz> It's giving me a blackscreen
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#576 [14:45] <Nathan2055> Ready for questions!
#577 [14:51] <Boreeas> Nathan2055: Yoiu don't say "Ready for questions" - You idle, and answer questions as they come up
#578 [14:51] <Nathan2055> Boreeas: Okay.
#579 [14:51] * Nathan2055 shrugs
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#581 [15:00] <TheCrusher> hi everybody
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#583 [15:02] <TheCrusher> Can i ask something about pc's?
#584 [15:03] <lemon-rev> you can try
#585 [15:04] <Nathan2055> Sure.
#586 [15:04] <TheCrusher> ok, i was talking with Boreeas last night about a problem with fullscreen
#587 [15:05] <TheCrusher> and i noticed my pc is acting weird with fullscreen overall
#588 [15:05] <TheCrusher> youtube, media player all those programs
#589 [15:05] <lemon-rev> what exactly do you mean by wired ?
#590 [15:05] <lemon-rev> ok
#591 [15:05] <lemon-rev> so video playback ?
#592 [15:05] <TheCrusher> It doesn't show fullscreen properly
#593 [15:06] <TheCrusher> it's since i updated my pc from vista to 7
#594 [15:06] <lemon-rev> hm
#595 [15:06] <TheCrusher> (free legal offer from windows)
#596 [15:06] <lemon-rev> ok TheCrusher try updateing your video drivers for a start yea
#597 [15:07] <TheCrusher> i did, with the recommended update from Boreeas but it didn't work and my pc is getting a little bit old too
#598 [15:07] <lemon-rev> then its just a matter of working out the software you need to make things work good again and do you use a program called 'vlc' < another video program to watch say avi and stuff ?
#599 [15:07] <TheCrusher> so i was wondering what i need to pay attention to if i want to buy a pc which can handle minecraft perfectly
#600 [15:07] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher what exactly did you do with boreeas as to updateing your pc ?
#601 [15:08] <TheCrusher> my graphics card driver
#602 [15:09] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher we have seen minecraft work on all types of machines but its a java based program along side machine code and c++ so its mainly java that has to do with that and also memory but appart from all that you should be good to go ?
#603 [15:09] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher well you said that failed correctly when you tryed to do your graphcis driver do you know what card you have ?
#604 [15:09] <TheCrusher> yeah, but the problem is my graphics card
#605 [15:10] <lemon-rev> well what is it and how old do you think it is ?
#606 [15:10] <AlphaAtom> Recommended specs for Minecraft: 64 bit java, dedicated graphics card, at least 1GB of RAM
#607 [15:10] <TheCrusher> i have an AMD Athlon x2 processor and an ATI radeon 3200 graphics card
#608 [15:10] <TheCrusher> i have all that
#609 [15:10] <lemon-rev> hm,
#610 [15:11] <TheCrusher> its just the compatibility with my old graphics card and my new pc software (windows 7)
#611 [15:11] <lemon-rev> 3200 < ati usually goes so if you choose the highest number of video card thats the latest one so i suppose it depends on how much $ you wish to throw at it
#612 [15:12] <TheCrusher> well i don't know how much $ cause i'm using €
#613 [15:12] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher there are propper drivers out there with that, have you tryed going to the ati.com website and going under support and selectign your card and getting the update though that ?
#614 [15:12] <lemon-rev> xe.com < currency converter
#615 [15:12] <lemon-rev> :P
#616 [15:12] <TheCrusher> but around €800
#617 [15:12] <TheCrusher> ok ill do that
#618 [15:13] <TheCrusher> it's roughly $1,055
#619 [15:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#620 [15:15] <lemon-rev> well i suppose its all about what card you wish to get and what comes under that class of $ for the type of motherboard you have also might want to look into your case and see what powersupply you have like in watts because that makes a big difference when chooseing cards you need the juice as much as anything eslse
#621 [15:15] <lemon-rev> else*
#622 [15:16] <TheCrusher> i'm thinking of an Nvidia GeForce
#623 [15:17] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher look into your case and find out how much power you have in that machine and that will also determine what type of card your machine can handle
#624 [15:17] <|Kiikun|Janus|> id sugest an EVGA brand GeForce... probably a GTX 500.
#625 [15:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> TheCrusher: you have a brand name computer or a custom build?
#626 [15:18] <TheCrusher> no i dont want to buy a new graphics card, i want to buy an entirely new PC
#627 [15:19] <lemon-rev> bah, for under $1000 < your not going to get your worth
#628 [15:19] <TheCrusher> i have a laptop (not custom) about 4 years old
#629 [15:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oooh... laptops generally arnt upgradeable ^^;
#630 [15:19] <Scott> Custom laptops? lol
#631 [15:19] <Scott> Sure they are!
#632 [15:19] <Scott> I upgraded my RAM
#633 [15:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: shall i find one? :P
#634 [15:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ram and cpu.. thats about it... gpu if youre lucky
#635 [15:20] <Scott> I got 8GB for $24.99.
#636 [15:20] <Scott> Apple charges $200 lol
#637 [15:20] <lemon-rev> scott prob with lappys are that you can have max ram of any pc its still sloggy shit because of the hd thats used in lapps but you get that lol
#638 [15:20] <Scott> You can get SSDs in Macs
#639 [15:20] <TheCrusher> so what amount of $ would you recommend to buy a brand new pc that can handle minecraft perfectly?
#640 [15:21] <Scott> Also, my drive is fast enough lol
#641 [15:21] <lemon-rev> TheCrusher you need if your a gaming guy need at least
#642 [15:21] <Scott> I can play Minecraft without issue on my macbook pro.
#643 [15:21] <lemon-rev> $1,500 usd or there abouts maybe more for a computer that can handle almsot everything
#644 [15:22] <Scott> I can't wait for ivy bridge.
#645 [15:22] <Scott> Even though I won't get an ivy bridge computer :(
#646 [15:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: you just want the prices to drop
#647 [15:22] <TheCrusher> oh, in that case i need to save my money for a little longer
#648 [15:23] <Scott> You should wait for Ivy Bridge, TheCrusher.
#649 [15:23] <Scott> Intel's target is a 20% CPU and 30% GPU performance increase over sandy bridge.
#650 [15:23] <TheCrusher> what's ivy bridge?
#651 [15:24] <Scott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_%28microarchitecture%29
#652 [15:24] <Scott> 2.9GHz (3.8GHz turbo) quad core in a notebook is so amazing.
#653 [15:26] <TheCrusher> ok, and what graphics card would you recommend?
#654 [15:26] <Scott> AMD and Nvidia are both fine.
#655 [15:27] <Scott> But Intel's integrated graphics is continually improving considerably.
#656 [15:27] <Scott> My computer uses Intel graphics and enables the AMD gpu when needed.
#657 [15:27] <TheCrusher> it switches?!
#658 [15:28] <TheCrusher> wow, i didn't even know that's possible
#659 [15:29] <TheCrusher> what motherboard should i have/
#660 [15:29] <TheCrusher> x ?
#661 [15:30] <Scott> I have a Mac.
#662 [15:30] <Scott> It has automated graphics switching.
#663 [15:32] <TheCrusher> when Lewis from the yogscast is playing minecraft it's like a super pc
#664 [15:33] <TheCrusher> How much would that kind of pc cost?
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#666 [15:36] <davman> Hello, I was looking for some help running minecraft on linux
#667 [15:36] <Scott> I don't know.
#668 [15:36] <davman> Every time I try to run it from the command prompt using the java command, I get a ClassNotFound Exception
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#673 [16:03] <ummyeahh> when i click paypal it says 20 dollars so if i use paypal is it only 20 dollars?
#674 [16:03] <Grim_Reaper> Yup
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#676 [16:46] <Omega_Guardian> usually there's some fee somewhere
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#678 [16:51] <minecraftfan99> if oyu pay useing payapal is it 20 dollars u.s mony?
#679 [16:51] <xales> You were just here and just asked that
#680 [16:51] <xales> It is 26.95 USD, regardless of how you pay.
#681 [16:53] <Omega_Guardian> some companies like the one that runs Eve Online, didn't bother to correct for country money values. It's 15 US dollars a month...but in UK, it's 15 euros a month :P
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#683 [16:53] <xales> ._.
#684 [16:59] <Morrolan> Omega_Guardian - That's pretty much how Steam does it too. ;)
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#688 [17:16] <rainy> can anyone tell me about aether for multiplayer, ive seen a lot of differing takes on the matter. i just want to know if i can
#689 [17:16] <rainy> as well how bout MoCreature for a server?
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#700 [18:37] <insecur> Hello, I need someone who can help with Macsd
#701 [18:37] <insecur> *Macs
#702 [18:38] <insecur> I actually need to go.
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#707 [18:49] <Diablothein> Ahoi! Anyone proficient with Java here? I needs help :|
#708 [18:49] <Diablothein> Also, KEALPYBBY! :O
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#713 [19:03] <zippity> what is a good survival server i can join?
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#718 [19:29] <charizardftw> hello
#719 [19:30] <charizardftw> my minecraft gives me a fatal error connection reset anytime i try to update/run. Help?
#720 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error that you get? Is this running classic or premium?
#721 [19:32] <charizardftw> im running premium, here's the message. Failed To Launch Fatsl error occured (4) Connection Reset retrieving: lwjgl.jar #%
#722 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Running AVG as an antivirus perhaps?
#723 [19:32] <charizardftw> Not too sure
#724 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to block lwjgl as a false positive like that.
#725 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Look in your system tray
#726 [19:32] <charizardftw> alright, unoinstalling AVG
#727 [19:33] <charizardftw> currently removing AVG
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#729 [19:34] <charizardftw> thank you for your time.
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#735 [20:11] <George> hi!
#736 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#737 [20:12] <George> i have some questions, please help me
#738 [20:12] <George> :)
#739 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> We have answers, care to trade?
#740 [20:12] <Guest4146> hi
#741 [20:12] <Guest4146> :P
#742 [20:12] <Guest4146> i'm george
#743 [20:12] <KleptoKat> Do you prefer the guest tag or something?
#744 [20:12] <Guest4146> You failed to identify in time for the nickname George
#745 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> "George" is a registered nickname
#746 [20:12] <Guest4146> -_-!
#747 [20:13] <Guest4146> chat deleted my name
#748 [20:13] <KleptoKat> Ah, that's fun
#749 [20:13] <Guest4146> lol
#750 [20:13] <KleptoKat> What are your problems, George?
#751 [20:13] <Guest4146> yes
#752 [20:14] <Guest4146> if i give an admin with my name
#753 [20:14] <Guest4146> i mean george
#754 [20:14] <Guest4146> what hapen if i log out
#755 [20:14] <Guest4146> and someone takes my name
#756 [20:14] <Guest4146> is it possible?
#757 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Only people with "George" will be able to do admin stuff, if you're running a legit server, the server will make sure only legit "George" accounts will be able to log in
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#759 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> If you're not, well, we have no control over that.
#760 [20:15] <Cmax9> are the minecraft downloading servers having problems?
#761 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so.
#762 [20:16] <Guest4146> o what is the revoke admin command?
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#764 [20:16] <Guest4146> i'll grant and revoke to do so lol
#765 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> /deop
#766 [20:16] <Cmax9> hmm,seem so,i cant download minecraft now,fails wile updating
#767 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Cmax9 - Does it fail on a specific file?
#768 [20:17] <Cmax9> no,seem to be random
#769 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Cmax9 - What AV do you run?
#770 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> We've seen AVG, avast, avira, mcafee and other AVs do this
#771 [20:17] <Guest4146> so if i grant admin to me can i ban someone from the gam right?
#772 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Guest4146 - Yes
#773 [20:18] <Guest4146> :)
#774 [20:18] <Cmax9> ok
#775 [20:18] <Guest4146> other question how to write a prive to you GREYVLPINE?
#776 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine
#777 [20:19] <Cmax9> AVG'¨
#778 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Cmax9 - Try going into AVG's options, and disabling AVG's linkscanner module.
#779 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> You can reenable it after you download the files.
#780 [20:20] <Cmax9> ok thanks
#781 [20:22] <Guest4146> ok
#782 [20:24] <Guest4146> mmm
#783 [20:24] <Guest4146> other question
#784 [20:25] <Guest4146> where can i get server commands???
#785 [20:25] <Guest4146> like grant and revoke admin
#786 [20:25] <Guest4146> i mean others?
#787 [20:25] <KleptoKat> Bukkit
#788 [20:26] <KleptoKat> You can add plugins and such
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#790 [20:26] <Guest4146> how?
#791 [20:26] <KleptoKat> Google!
#792 [20:26] <KleptoKat> Youtube!
#793 [20:27] <Guest4146> ok i download bukkit
#794 [20:27] <KleptoKat> There are literally hundreds of tutorials
#795 [20:27] <_Effect> Can anyone help me optimize my computer for minecraft? :j
#796 [20:27] <Guest4146> -_-
#797 [20:28] <Guest4146> but what can plugins do?
#798 [20:28] <_Effect> anything :P
#799 [20:28] <_Effect> Anyone know anything about drivers and stuff? :P
#800 [20:29] <Guest4146> give money? live?
#801 [20:29] <Guest4146> powers?
#802 [20:29] <Guest4146> ?
#803 [20:30] <Guest4146> ?
#804 [20:30] <Omega_Guardian> Optifine last time I played Minecraft helped loads even at default settings
#805 [20:31] <Omega_Guardian> changing the auto-save internal to say 3 minutes helps alot if I remember right, and can disable animations too
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#819 [21:28] <xales> _Effect: still around?
#820 [21:28] <_Effect> Yep!
#821 [21:28] <xales> So you're trying to get Minecraft to run better, I take it?
#822 [21:29] <_Effect> Yep. Originally my minecraft ran quite well. When i started updating all my drivers, it went downhill.
#823 [21:29] <xales> Which drivers did you update?
#824 [21:30] <_Effect> Umm, one sec.
#825 [21:31] <_Effect> It was only my video drivers actually, that and my java
#826 [21:31] <xales> ah
#827 [21:31] <xales> what version of Java did you update to?
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#829 [21:33] <_Effect> Umm, Ithink I'm currently running 6.9 again. Ive jumped between that an 7.1 over and oer
#830 [21:34] <xales> Java 7 is known to cause some issues, so if you are running that, it may be related
#831 [21:34] <_Effect> Yeah, It seemed that 7.1 was slower than 6
#832 [21:34] <_Effect> BUT, im still having issues. I think it's my video driver nd it's openGL
#833 [21:34] <xales> The video drivers could easily be related, but I'm not sure how upgrading them would make it slower
#834 [21:35] <xales> you could try rolling back the driver, I guess
#835 [21:35] <_Effect> Tbh, my video drivers have caused nothing but trouble since I got the damned thing
#836 [21:40] <xales> What video card do you have?
#837 [21:43] <_Effect> gforce gtx 260m
#838 [21:43] <_Effect> it runs fine in the small window, but full screen it chokes
#839 [21:45] <xales> hm
#840 [21:45] <xales> did you install the driver from your laptop manufacturer or from nvidia's website?
#841 [21:45] <_Effect> nvidia's
#842 [21:46] <xales> If your laptop manufacturer has a video driver posted, I'd try that
#843 [21:46] <_Effect> il check it out
#844 [21:48] <_Effect> hrmm, cool. download posted, ima try it
#845 [21:51] <_Effect> rolled back to my 2009 drivers before i install the new drivers, gonna try this out real quick
#846 [21:52] <_Effect> Oh sweet mother of god this is awful
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#853 [22:20] <TheCurious> Hi, I got a question. In the world folder, there's a data and region folders. I assume the region folder is where the chunks are saved, but what is the data folder? It's empty.
#854 [22:22] <TheCurious> I've checked 2 worlds, and they both have the Data folders empty.
#855 [22:23] <Omega_Guardian> could be it stores stuff like text on signs
#856 [22:23] <TheCurious> I don't think so, since the worlds actually have a lot of signs
#857 [22:24] <TheCurious> so no one knows?
#858 [22:29] <clarjon1> legacy?
#859 [22:30] <clarjon1> isn't the data folder where the old map format held it's files?
#860 [22:31] <TheCurious> no idea, i didn't play MC when the old map format was around.
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#866 [22:50] <TheCurious> ohhh nevermind, the /world/data folder is for maps only.
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#869 [23:27] <Isux> help me!
#870 [23:27] <WugBot> Isux: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#871 [23:27] <Isux> ummm
#872 [23:27] <Isux> java script
#873 [23:27] <Isux> i suck at it and need help
#874 [23:28] <zkxs> You realize javascript and java are two different things, right?
#875 [23:28] <Isux> can you help me?
#876 [23:28] <WugBot> Isux: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#877 [23:28] <Isux> sucking a dick
#878 [23:28] <Isux> duh
#879 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> !k isux
#880 [23:28] * GreyBot kicked Isux from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sux :<Kicks:912>)
#881 [23:28] * GreyVulpine waves
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#882 [23:29] <Isux> help
#883 [23:29] <Isux> Help
#884 [23:29] <Isux> Java scripting
#885 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> This isn't #javascripthelp
#886 [23:29] <Isux> @AuBot
#887 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft uses no javascript
#888 [23:29] <Isux> idgaf
#889 [23:30] <Isux> it does
#890 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> !kb isux
#891 [23:30] * GreyBot kicked Isux from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sux :<Kicks:913>)
#892 [23:30] <zkxs> lol
#893 [23:30] * GreyVulpine sighs and goes back to banging head on desk
#893 [23:30] * Wug applies something soft
#893 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> He's now in #minecraftforums
#894 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> <Isux> it does use java script everything uses java script!
#895 [23:31] * Wug gets popcorn
#895 [23:32] <Wug> zkxs: ill fix that
#896 [23:32] <zkxs> I don't want to miss the comedy
#897 [23:32] <Wug> ill send you logs if you miss it
#898 [23:32] <zkxs> ty
#899 [23:33] <zkxs> So everyone in my general area using cox is banned... :P
#900 [23:39] <Wug> mmhm because of an overly broad akick
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#902 [23:45] <Wug> experiment time
#903 [23:45] <Wug> zkxs: thank you for volunteering to be our test subject for the day
#904 [23:46] <Wug> zkxs: also you can join #risucraft now
#905 [23:46] <Wug> I think
#906 [23:47] * Wug hunts for another test subject
#906 [23:48] <Omega_Guardian> test subject for what?
#907 [23:49] <Wug> you'll see
#908 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Being Wug's slave
#909 [23:49] <Wug> thanks for volunteering!!!11
#910 [23:49] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#911 [23:49] <Wug> this might hurt for a second
#912 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> His last 3 got incinerated accidentally.
#913 [23:50] * Wug kicked Omega_Guardian from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mega_Guardian :rejoin)
#914 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Couple maimings.
#915 [23:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll be your test. :)
#916 [23:50] <Wug> omega_guardians already doing it
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#921 [23:51] * GreyVulpine prods Wug
#921 [23:51] * Wug twiddles levers and knobs
#921 [23:51] <Wug> ITS WORKING
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#924 [23:52] <Wug> hes not responding to pm
#925 [23:52] <Wug> oh we
#926 [23:52] <Wug> ll
#927 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> I've been /inviting him
#928 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> His client's set up to auto-accept
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#930 [23:52] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: you volunteered right
#931 [23:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Yaeh
#932 [23:53] <CrusaderDeleters> noe
#933 [23:53] <Omega_Guardian> ok, so uhh what happened? I was busy for a minute, come back and I'm banned from channel :P
#934 [23:53] <Wug> Omega_Guardian: sejfknwrjgesnrgerge
#935 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Wug had some fun
#936 [23:53] <Omega_Guardian> ah ok'
#937 [23:53] * Wug kicked Omega_Guardian from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mega_Guardian :you're my test subject. rejoin)
#938 [23:53] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
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#940 [23:54] <Wug> dont remove yet
#941 [23:54] * CrusaderDeleters burns the body.
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#942 [23:54] <mcrivers> hows it going guys? need help setting up a MC Server on Windows server 2003
#943 [23:55] <CrusaderDeleters> ew, outdated.
#944 [23:55] <mcrivers> yea yea
#945 [23:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Sorry, never handled anything other than xp and 7
#946 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> It's not that different
#947 [23:55] <CrusaderDeleters> oh, rly? :o
#948 [23:56] <mcrivers> well i have set it up so that i can connect to it within the network, but outside cant connect
#949 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> hosting it at home?
#950 [23:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Port Forward?
#951 [23:56] <mcrivers> 25565
#952 [23:57] <mcrivers> thru the router and the software firewall, cant seem to login to the switch
#953 [23:57] <mcrivers> yea server is in the basement
#954 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Then it's just a matter of walking through each hop in your network setup, forwarding 25565/TCP down the chain
#955 [23:59] <mcrivers> can you set up port forward thru switches?
#956 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> switches generally don't have NAT
#957 [23:59] <mcrivers> thats what i thought