#MinecraftHelp > 2012-02-27
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#2 [00:07] <oldtopman> ooh
#3 [00:08] * oldtopman should work towards getting voice
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#8 [00:38] <Pistermister> hey
#9 [00:38] <Pistermister> wat are all the color codes for mc
#10 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Classic_server_protocol#Color_Codes
#11 [00:45] <Pistermister> my herochat wont work :O
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#15 [00:57] * oldtopman sees wugbot
#15 [00:57] * oldtopman will be here however long it takes to get voice.
#15 [00:57] <oldtopman> This is incredibly useful.
#16 [00:57] <oldtopman> night!
#17 [00:58] <Pistermister> can someone help me?
#18 [00:58] <WugBot> Pistermister: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#19 [00:58] <Pistermister> i need help with herochat
#20 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> We don't assist with mods here, sorry.
#21 [00:59] <Pistermister> :(
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#26 [01:12] <Drages> Hey guys, I'm fairly new to MC. I'm looking for a server to start on, I'd like somewhat of a sandbox mmo experience. Anyone have any sugguestions for someone pretty fresh to the game?
#27 [01:13] <mib_pgh5vj> i've got my own server
#28 [01:13] <tyteen4a03> You can try #smp for SMP servers
#29 [01:13] <mib_pgh5vj> if u wanna try it
#30 [01:13] <tyteen4a03> mib_pgh5vj: no advertising here
#31 [01:13] <mib_pgh5vj> :OO
#32 [01:13] <mib_pgh5vj> :O
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#34 [01:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Drages: best to play single player to get a feel of the game. thr wiki and some youtube vids help
#35 [01:15] <Drages> I'd rather just jump in and get my feet wet though! I don't think itll take me too long to pick up the basics, especially with the wiki so accessable while in game
#36 [01:15] <mib_pgh5vj> hey drages
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#39 [01:36] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug because he's on page 23 of http://clientsfromhell.net/
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#40 [01:39] <sffdff> minecraft wont start
#41 [01:39] <sffdff> says i has to update my video card drivers
#42 [01:39] <sffdff> anyone there?
#43 [01:39] <sffdff> hELO?
#44 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes, do you know how to update your video card's drivers?
#45 [01:40] <sffdff> Nope
#46 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#47 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo?
#48 [01:40] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: so AmigaOS is off that sentence :P
#49 [01:40] <sffdff> 7 home premium
#50 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> I'm afraid somebody will actually say Amiga. *cough*
#51 [01:41] <sffdff> LOL u silly
#52 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> sffdff - Alright. Could you please give us a dxdiag? It'll show us more information about your system, including what video card you have.
#53 [01:41] <sffdff> u guys have fun heh
#54 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> Please follow VoxelHead's instructions:
#55 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> sffdff win/dxdiag
#56 [01:41] <VoxelHead> sffdff: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#57 [01:41] <VoxelHead> sffdff: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#58 [01:41] <sffdff> godamit ok
#59 [01:42] <sffdff> i have to go in like 3 min :(
#60 [01:42] <sffdff> so i need to get minecraft downloaded and everything
#61 [01:43] <superboy13> does anyone know how do to permissions?
#62 [01:44] <sffdff> http://pastebin.com/gifEhPMj
#63 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> sffdff - You'll want to download and install these drivers
#64 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-295.73-whql-driver.html
#65 [01:45] <sffdff> yay
#66 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> superboy13 - Sorry, you may want to try #permissions
#67 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> or even #bukkit
#68 [01:46] <neersighted> superboy13L #PermissionSex
#69 [01:46] <neersighted> * super
#70 [01:46] <neersighted> * superboy13
#71 [01:47] <superboy13> yea
#72 [01:47] <superboy13> there should be a guide in each plugin
#73 [01:47] <superboy13> so i dont have to wait 100hours to get help lol
#74 [01:48] <neersighted> It's not hard
#75 [01:48] <neersighted> RTFM
#76 [01:48] <neersighted> It's on the BukkitDev page
#77 [01:49] <Sporkin> im sure i'm doing something stupid, but can iron golems only be crafted in survival or something?
#78 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Iron.. golems?
#79 [01:49] <Sporkin> yeah, snow golems are working fine, but not iron
#80 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest w08a snapshot?
#81 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Sporkin - What version of minecraft are you running?
#82 [01:51] <Sporkin> i "think" it should be the latest
#83 [01:51] <Sporkin> i just patched it
#84 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Then you're running 1.1, which is the latest stable version of minecraft. 1.1 does not have Iron Golems
#85 [01:51] <Sporkin> oh, thanks
#86 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> The version of minecraft that does have Iron golems, is in the latest development build
#87 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/23/minecraft-snapshot-12w08a/
#88 [01:52] <Sporkin> cool, ty
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#100 [03:04] <mib_nq9hbc> FUKK!!!
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#102 [03:04] <mib_nq9hbc> i've been working on permissionsex
#103 [03:04] <mib_nq9hbc> all day
#104 [03:04] <mib_nq9hbc> and it just
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#106 [03:09] <sugoi> mib_nq9hbc: langauge, please
#107 [03:11] <mib_nq9hbc> Sorry, i'm just so tired, ive been trying to get permissionsex to use groups
#108 [03:11] <mib_nq9hbc> but nothing works for me
#109 [03:11] <sugoi> mib_nq9hbc: you know i had the same problem
#110 [03:11] <sugoi> i only manage 6 people - and my setup wasn't very complicated, so i did it by hand
#111 [03:12] <mib_nq9hbc> wanna teach me
#112 [03:12] <sugoi> but groups would have been far cleaner
#113 [03:12] <sugoi> mib_nq9hbc: no i mean, i setup individual perms per person
#114 [03:12] <sugoi> didn't ever get groups working
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#116 [03:12] <mib_nq9hbc> oh
#117 [03:12] <mib_nq9hbc> i want grps to work lol
#118 [03:12] <sugoi> i didn't spend a whole lot of time on it -
#119 [03:12] <sugoi> that would be nice :)
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#122 [03:13] <mib_nq9hbc> would be much easier if i had teamviewer help lol
#123 [03:13] <mib_nq9hbc> noone in permissionsex even replies
#124 [03:13] <sugoi> it could be hte time
#125 [03:13] <sugoi> the*
#126 [03:13] <sugoi> i wonder what time it is for most that would frequent that channel
#127 [03:14] <sugoi> mib_nq9hbc: btw, i see you logged in here from a web link - being that minecraft.net/support doesn't link here anymore, where did you 'come' from?
#128 [03:15] <mib_nq9hbc> i came from Minecraft
#129 [03:15] <mib_nq9hbc> then community
#130 [03:15] <mib_nq9hbc> then irc help
#131 [03:15] <sugoi> ah, forums, i see
#132 [03:18] <mib_nq9hbc> so is there a guide on how to do this permissionsex?
#133 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/permbukkit/
#134 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/permbukkit/pages/configuration/
#135 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/permbukkit/pages/faq/
#136 [03:19] <mib_nq9hbc> ty
#137 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> https://github.com/PEXPlugins/PermissionsEx/wiki
#138 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> https://github.com/PEXPlugins/PermissionsEx/wiki/Basic-Permissions-Setup
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#140 [03:23] <sugoi> "user: GreyVulpine; when 4 links just isn't enough"
#141 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> When Googling "Permissionsex + Bukkit" is just not enough
#142 [03:24] <sugoi> ;)
#143 [03:24] <sugoi> ;)
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#152 [04:12] <flot99> since 17 of february I'm not able to login
#153 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> And why is that?
#154 [04:13] <flot99> login failed
#155 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Means you're putting in the password incorrectly, try resetting the password
#156 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> :resetpass
#157 [04:14] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#158 [04:14] <flot99> try it
#159 [04:14] <flot99> already done
#160 [04:15] <flot99> not working
#161 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you get an email?
#162 [04:15] <flot99> yes
#163 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you use the email to change the password to something else?
#164 [04:15] <flot99> yes
#165 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> And have you tried logging into the website using your username and the new password?
#166 [04:16] <flot99> yes and it's not working
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#168 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're entering the new password in correctly?
#169 [04:17] <flot99> yes I did it
#170 [04:17] <mib_nq9hbc> have u tried using a capital for the first letter of ur password?
#171 [04:18] <mib_nq9hbc> that was sometimes the prob for me
#172 [04:18] <flot99> it a number for my pass
#173 [04:18] <mib_nq9hbc> :O
#174 [04:18] <sugoi> flot99: when you reset the password, did the page say the new password was accepted?
#175 [04:19] <flot99> But I've got a second whose working
#176 [04:19] <flot99> yes
#177 [04:19] <sugoi> flot99: just curious - what's the username for that account?
#178 [04:19] <sugoi> i wonder if the account wasn't premium
#179 [04:19] <flot99> flot99 and flot98
#180 [04:19] <mib_nq9hbc> !paid flot98
#181 [04:19] <mib_nq9hbc> :O
#182 [04:19] <sugoi> !paid flot99
#183 [04:19] <flot99> and flot99 too
#184 [04:20] <mib_nq9hbc> !paid flot99
#185 [04:20] <mib_nq9hbc> checks out
#186 [04:20] <flot99> both of them last year
#187 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Did you migrate to the new Mojang Account system?
#188 [04:20] <flot99> yes
#189 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
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#191 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> When you migrated to the new system, you'll need to use your email address instead of your username to log in.
#192 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into https://account.mojang.com/
#193 [04:21] <flot99> did it
#194 [04:22] <flot99> with flot98 able to login but not with flot99
#195 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Nothing else we can really suggest here. Contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#196 [04:23] <flot99> ok thk
#197 [04:23] <superboy13> Sorry for the Inconvenience
#198 [04:29] <Finamenon> thats a cool command there
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#200 [04:30] <[L]> Is there a way to check when your account was madE?
#201 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#202 [04:41] <superboy17> hey
#203 [04:41] <superboy17> why doesn't minecraft have volcano's?
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#205 [04:44] <Finamenon> !paid finamenon
#206 [04:44] <Finamenon> that is so cool haha
#207 [04:44] <superboy17> !paid superboy13
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#209 [04:47] <jschuur> !paid jschuur
#210 [04:47] <superboy17> !paid Jesus
#211 [04:47] <superboy17> tsk tsk tsk
#212 [04:47] <superboy17> !paid Chuck Norris
#213 [04:47] <superboy17> LOL
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#215 [04:53] <superboy17> !paid Penis The friendly ghost
#216 [04:54] <superboy17> lol
#217 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam with the bots.
#218 [04:54] <superboy17> but they say funny stuff lol
#219 [05:00] <superboy17> !paid tolt2
#220 [05:00] <superboy17> !paid ltolt2
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#229 [06:14] <Aruaruu> hello
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#231 [06:30] <thehagel> Both my daugher and my sons login has changed, are no longer premium, is this a temp glitch with servers?
#232 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> thehagel - did you purchase those accounts from minecraft.net?
#233 [06:33] <thehagel> Stupidly enough I didn't, but non the less I'd appreciate a confirmation if they were false so I can start hunting the basterd who sold them to me
#234 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> thehagel - The only legit place to buy minecraft, is from minecraft.net. You risk getting scammed if you purchase it from any other place.
#235 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> We see this scam quite often, unfortunately. There's nothing Mojang can do about it.
#236 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#237 [06:35] <thehagel> I understand, but still, who do I ask to check if the accounts have been demoted due to faulty codes?
#238 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> You can try contacting Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#239 [06:36] <thehagel> I've tried to change password on that page for my daughers account, but I get nothing on her gmail.
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#241 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> You can also verify Premium status by using: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#242 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> You can also verify Premium status by using: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
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#244 [06:37] <thehagel> Thanks
#245 [06:38] <thehagel> Seems I've been screwed, nice way to start the week :)
#246 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Sorry to hear that. If you purchased it through Paypal or with a credit card, you can usually file a dispute through them
#247 [06:40] <Aruaruu> anyone know the direct link to the tactical scanner mod for 1.1? if so pm the link. thank you.
#248 [06:40] <thehagel> I'm about to check trough my emails now to find what service I payed with, thanks alot for the help.
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#250 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Aruaruu - Still there?
#251 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Aruaruu - The mod that you're looking for, "Tactical Scanner", is actually called "Scouter", and the latest version can be found here: http://forum.minecraftuser.jp/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1447
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#253 [07:03] <Aruaruu> thanks
#254 [07:04] <Aruaruu> sorry i didn't respond xD
#255 [07:05] <thehagel> I'm trying to buy new giftcodes, and paying through paypal, for some reason paypal doesn't let me complete the payment and refers me back to merchant, any idéa why?
#256 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> thehagel - Typically, purchases are denied because it tripped the card's automatic anti-fraud protection. Minecraft is made by Mojang, a company based in Sweden. Most if not all purchases are international purchases.
#257 [07:07] <thehagel> Weird, have never had any problems with paypal, it's verified and all, and I äm väry swedish myself..
#258 [07:08] <thehagel> My patience is sinking.. I'll try the VISA option instead then.
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#261 [07:14] <thehagel> Visa payment through moneybrokers worked, now at least the daughter has a working account. Thanks for your help.
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#270 [08:29] <Yamaru> Hi
#271 [08:30] <Yamaru> I need help :X
#272 [08:30] <Yamaru> Anyone can help me please ?
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#276 [08:54] <corco> Hello, I have a problem with my tamed wolves. I have told them to sit down and now they won't stand up any more. At first right-clicking worked as expected - when holding meat in my hand, I fed the wolf, when he was full (healthy) the right-click caused him to sit down. Now all the five wolves are just sitting and refuse to stand up. I had version 1.1.
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#278 [08:54] <kendle> can someone help me with my server?
#279 [08:55] <kendle> people cant join my server?
#280 [08:56] <kendle> can someone help me?
#281 [08:56] <WugBot> kendle: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#282 [08:56] <kendle> can someon help me?
#283 [08:56] <WugBot> kendle: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#284 [08:56] <kendle> hi every1
#285 [08:58] <kendle> can i have help?
#286 [08:58] <kendle> hello?
#287 [08:58] <kendle> are you all doing homework or someting?
#288 [09:00] <corco> kendle: I think you need to be more patient ;)
#289 [09:01] <kendle> ok
#290 [09:01] <kendle> can you help me
#291 [09:01] <WugBot> kendle: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#292 [09:01] <kendle> stop it bot
#293 [09:01] <kendle> Corco?
#294 [09:01] <kendle> could you help me using teamviewer?
#295 [09:02] <corco> kendle: you should provide more info about your situation, no I can't sorry
#296 [09:02] <corco> (have to work)
#297 [09:02] <kendle> (sigh***)
#298 [09:08] <corco> Is my problem considered a question (to answer) even if it doesn't have a question mark? It's just that I have a problem and wanted to ask if someone can tell me what to do. ;-)
#299 [09:08] <corco> Is my problem considered a question (to answer) even if it doesn't have a question mark? It's just that I have a problem and wanted to ask if someone can tell me what to do. ;-)
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#309 [09:35] <jasper> can someone help me my friends can not join my server
#310 [09:36] <xales> Have you set up port-forwarding? Are they using the correct IP address?
#311 [09:39] <jasper> yes all
#312 [09:39] <jasper> sorry
#313 [09:39] <jasper> for being away
#314 [09:39] <jasper> 195.241.14.150
#315 [09:39] <jasper> is the ip
#316 [09:40] <jasper> do you have teamviewer
#317 [09:40] <jasper> to help me
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#319 [09:45] <Morrolan> !check 195.241.14.150
#320 [09:45] <Morrolan> Looks as if your port forwarding wasn't set up properly then.
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#322 [09:51] <jasper> can you help me with teamviewer?
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#324 [09:55] <Morrolan> jasper - I do not have the time to do so myself, nope.
#325 [09:55] <Morrolan> If you have issues with portforwarding then your router's manual or the internet will provide guides though.
#326 [09:56] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan why so highlight
#327 [09:57] <jasper> grim could you help me?
#328 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> With what exactly?
#329 [09:57] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Hmm?
#330 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> [16:45] <@Morrolan> !check 195.241.14.150
#331 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> [16:45] <@AuBot> Sorry Morrolan, but things look grim for 195.241.14.150:25565, are you sure you typed it right?
#332 [09:57] <Morrolan> Ah.
#333 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#334 [09:57] <Grim_Reaper> You owe me a cookie
#335 [09:58] * Wug gives Grim_Reaper a suspicious glowing cookie
#335 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#336 [09:58] * Grim_Reaper thanks wug and nomnoms on it ^_^
#336 [09:59] <Wug> * Grim_Reaper mutates into a wug!
#337 [09:59] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#338 [09:59] <Grim_Reaper> Yay!
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#340 [10:01] <jasper> sorry was away
#341 [10:02] <jasper> wugsslave nice name grim
#342 [10:02] <WugsSlave> Thanks
#343 [10:02] <jasper> are you good in servers?
#344 [10:02] <WugsSlave> Im ok as long as I generally have a tutorial
#345 [10:03] <jasper> can you portforward?
#346 [10:03] <jasper> because:
#347 [10:03] <jasper> !check 195.241.14.150
#348 [10:03] <WugsSlave> Umm it depends on the router
#349 [10:03] <Wug> jasper: I'd help but I'm studying for a final :/
#350 [10:03] <WugsSlave> !ping
#351 [10:03] <GreyBot> WugsSlave Your Ping time was 1.326 seconds.
#352 [10:03] <Grim_Reaper> Wow Im lagging >_>
#353 [10:03] <jasper> !ping
#354 [10:03] <GreyBot> jasper Your Ping time was 0.359 seconds.
#355 [10:04] <Grim_Reaper> jasper, I would try googling the name of your router, and checking how to portforward.
#356 [10:04] <jasper> wug?
#357 [10:04] <Grim_Reaper> Generally I dont like to fiddle with others peoples routers just incase I mess something up :p
#358 [10:04] <jasper> yh i did it like 100 times but it does not work?
#359 [10:04] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried using a different port?
#360 [10:07] <jasper> !check 195.241.14.150
#361 [10:07] <jasper> ...
#362 [10:07] <jasper> do you want to have a look
#363 [10:08] <jasper> grim?
#364 [10:08] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried using a different port
#365 [10:08] <Grim_Reaper> Also are you able to connect locally?
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#367 [10:08] <jasper> i am able to join locally
#368 [10:09] <jasper> and no i did not try a different port only 25565
#369 [10:09] <Grim_Reaper> Then it sounds like your ip is the issue perhaps?
#370 [10:09] <jasper> would you like a look?
#371 [10:09] <jasper> to see it?
#372 [10:10] <jasper> क्या आप चाहते हैं?
#373 [10:10] <jasper> wtf?
#374 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> I can try. But my internet is extremely laggy as you saw in the ping
#375 [10:10] <jasper> ok lets try
#376 [10:10] <jasper> do you have teamviewer?
#377 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> Yup
#378 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> Just lemme know the details
#379 [10:10] <jasper> 421 923 926: id
#380 [10:10] <jasper> 98ppp5: pw
#381 [10:11] <jasper> you dont need pw
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#383 [10:11] <jasper> can i have your id?
#384 [10:11] <Grim_Reaper> Sec I need to update my version
#385 [10:11] <jasper> yes
#386 [10:11] <Grim_Reaper> Goodlawd this looks like it's gonna take forever p________p
#387 [10:13] <jasper> and?
#388 [10:13] <Grim_Reaper> 1/4 of the way >.>
#389 [10:16] <jasper> and?
#390 [10:16] <Grim_Reaper> 3.5/4
#391 [10:17] <jasper> ok
#392 [10:17] <jasper> good
#393 [10:17] <jasper> are you ready?
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#395 [10:18] <Grim_Reaper> K installing updated version
#396 [10:18] <jasper> 421 923 926
#397 [10:18] <jasper> try that
#398 [10:19] <jasper> v4q18n: pw
#399 [10:22] <jasper> 192.168.1.56
#400 [10:22] <Wug> you should share teamviewer ids and passwords via pm
#401 [10:22] <Wug> :pm
#402 [10:22] <WugBot> pm: Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged. PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#403 [10:23] <Grim_Reaper> !check 192.168.1.56
#404 [10:23] <Grim_Reaper> >_>
#405 [10:23] <Wug> herp
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#410 [10:33] <jasper> !check 195.241.14.150
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#413 [10:36] <quaddle> hello
#414 [10:36] <Morrolan> heyho
#415 [10:37] <quaddle> can someone help me ? Friday i bought a Key for Minecraft ! I played 2 Days and now i am not a ,,premium´´ member ?!
#416 [10:37] <quaddle> what can i do
#417 [10:37] <quaddle> i am really sure that i had bought the game
#418 [10:37] <xales> Where did you buy it from?
#419 [10:37] <quaddle> onlinekeystore
#420 [10:38] <xales> Minecraft can only be purchased from minecraf.net
#421 [10:38] <quaddle> i had registered at Minecraft.net at Redeem Gift Code
#422 [10:38] <Omega_Guardian> Oi. That doesn't sound legit to me :P Why peeps ever don't make sure they go to the official site I dunno
#423 [10:38] <quaddle> is that right ?
#424 [10:38] <Grim_Reaper> jasper. try start the server now
#425 [10:38] <xales> If you buy it somewhere other than minecraft.net, you probably got ripped off.
#426 [10:38] <Grim_Reaper> See if it works
#427 [10:38] <Grim_Reaper> ?? scam
#428 [10:38] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#429 [10:38] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#430 [10:39] <quaddle> what can i do now ? My friends bought it there too
#431 [10:39] <quaddle> and it works
#432 [10:39] <jasper> !195.241.14.150
#433 [10:39] <quaddle> they can play all the time
#434 [10:39] <Grim_Reaper> !check 196.241.14.150:25565
#435 [10:39] <jasper> !check 195.241.14.150
#436 [10:39] <Grim_Reaper> FF
#437 [10:39] <Wug> quaddle: doesnt matter, don't do it
#438 [10:39] <xales> quaddle: Again, if you did not buy it from minecraft.net, you cannot expect it to work and we cannot provide you with any support.
#439 [10:40] <Wug> get it from minecraft.net
#440 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Try port 25566 jasper
#441 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Restart the server after saving settings
#442 [10:40] <quaddle> but i cant buy there with paysafecard
#443 [10:40] <quaddle> i only have paysafecards
#444 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> [17:39] <quaddle> what can i do now ? My friends bought it there too
#445 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> ;scam
#446 [10:40] <Boreeas> :scam
#447 [10:40] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#448 [10:40] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#449 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#450 [10:40] <Boreeas> Looks... grim
#451 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Thats most likely why it works
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#453 [10:42] <jasper> still does not work grim
#454 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> =\
#455 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Then jasper Im really not sure sadly
#456 [10:42] <jasper> i will ask someone else
#457 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe your router is blocking external access
#458 [10:42] <jasper> can someone try to fix my server?
#459 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe try restarting the router and see if that helps
#460 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Thats the best I can offer
#461 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry
#462 [10:42] <jasper> ok will do it now
#463 [10:43] <jasper> i am back
#464 [10:43] <jasper> does not work
#465 [10:44] <jasper> can someone try to portforward my server?
#466 [10:44] <jasper> with teamviewer?
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#468 [10:45] <jasper> someone?
#469 [10:45] <Wug> jasper: try waiting a while
#470 [10:45] <jasper> ...
#471 [10:46] <Wug> people are all busy
#472 [10:46] <jasper> yes srry
#473 [10:46] <jasper> but i do not have all time
#474 [10:49] <Wug> you could come back later in the day
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#481 [11:42] <bobd0le> hey guys, just downloaded / selected the dokucraft texturepack (high version, found here - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/513093-11-dokucraft-the-saga-continues-32x/ - ) Used mcpatcher too
#482 [11:42] <bobd0le> But when i attempt to join a game, the screen is just completely black? my other texture packs work fine, but not that one - any ideas?
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#484 [11:44] <xales> bobd0le: Does it work when you are not using that specific texture pack?
#485 [11:45] <bobd0le> yep, works fine on the other texture packs i have, but with that doku its a black screen on singleplayer (both creative and survival) and multiplayer servers :(
#486 [11:46] <bobd0le> nvm
#487 [11:46] <bobd0le> it works if i rename the .zip
#488 [11:47] <bobd0le> how utterly odd
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#497 [12:34] <Drages> I'm looking for a server to start on, I'd like somewhat of a sandbox mmo experience. Anyone have any sugguestions for someone pretty fresh to the game? Survival over creative, probably.
#498 [12:35] <xales> I'm not personally familiar with any servers, but you could try browsing http://minestatus.net/
#499 [12:36] <Drages> Thanks for the help, I'll check that out
#500 [12:36] <Drages> Is this one of the most popular sites for finding servers?
#501 [12:38] <xales> I'm not sure, it's fairly popular from my understanding
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#503 [12:40] <Drages> Okay, cool. I'm always kind of wary about these voting sites and how legit they are.
#504 [12:41] <Jammie> Help! My mc is stuck on done loading. When i do it from spoutcraft i get 'download interupted' and ive tried run as admin. Ive tried dleeting .minecraft and the .spoutcraft and force update and re downloading. Tried going on the online version and still same
#505 [12:42] <Jammie> can anyone help?
#506 [12:42] <xales> ??> Jammie forceupdate
#507 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Jammie: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#508 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Jammie: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#509 [12:42] <Jammie> i said i force updated....
#510 [12:43] <Jammie> quote from my text "force update"
#511 [12:45] <Jammie> ive deleted .minecraft too
#512 [12:46] <xales> Are you trying to use any mods or other third-party software?
#513 [12:46] <Jammie> No
#514 [12:47] <clarjon1> what's your firewall software
#515 [12:47] <xales> Wug: Where is your troubleshooting launcher? :p
#516 [12:47] <Jammie> BullGuard...
#517 [12:47] <clarjon1> turn it off, temporarily, and try agian
#518 [12:47] <clarjon1> *again
#519 [12:47] <Jammie> Ok
#520 [12:47] <clarjon1> And please report back if it works :)
#521 [12:48] <Jammie> Oh windows firewall is on too
#522 [12:48] <Jammie> how do i disable that?
#523 [12:48] <EyesIsMine> you don't need to
#524 [12:48] <EyesIsMine> mostly
#525 [12:48] <Jammie> its off
#526 [12:48] <clarjon1> ok, try to get the update :)
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#528 [12:50] <Roughknite> So i've scanned everywhere and tried everything but I can not fix the out of memory error. I have 1024 allocated to java while running with a .bat file, I have 32-bit windows 7 and a duel core cpu at 2.7Ghz a core... Ideas? I'm about ready to just give up...
#529 [12:50] <xales> Turn down the view distance
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#531 [12:50] <Jammie> It didnt work,...
#532 [12:51] <Roughknite> Not sure why that hasn't occured to me, I will give it a shot though.
#533 [12:51] <fungustus> hi
#534 [12:51] <clarjon1> hmmm.
#535 [12:51] <Jammie> I WANA PLAY MC I HAVENT PLAYED FOR OVER A MONTH
#536 [12:52] <Jammie> Help! My mc is stuck on done loading. When i do it from spoutcraft i get 'download interupted' and ive tried run as admin. Ive tried dleeting .minecraft and the .spoutcraft and force update and re downloading. Tried going on the online version and still same. TRIED FIREWALL...
#537 [12:52] <clarjon1> no need to yell -_-
#538 [12:55] <Jammie> Help! My mc is stuck on done loading. When i do it from spoutcraft i get 'download interupted' and ive tried run as admin. Ive tried dleeting .minecraft and the .spoutcraft and force update and re downloading. Tried going on the online version and still same. TRIED FIREWALL...
#539 [12:55] <Jammie> ffs
#540 [12:55] <clarjon1> you just said that
#541 [12:55] <fungustus> Anyone know how to change where minecraft installs? (instead of %appdata% roaming blah blah - can it be change to F:\RunOnMahFLashDrive)
#542 [12:55] <clarjon1> i'm trying to think up something to try -_-
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#544 [12:57] <fungustus> Jammie you using a 32bit or 64bit OS?
#545 [12:57] <xales> fungustus: It's possible, but it's not easy (at least, not on Windows)
#546 [12:57] <Roughknite> view distance might have actually worked, thank you Xales, i'll let you know if it lasts.
#547 [12:57] <xales> Roughknite: I'm glad it seems to be working
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#549 [13:00] <fungustus> xales, do you know how to change it?
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#551 [13:01] <Trel> Got a question on client mods. Is there any mod where I can add buttons to the UI that corrispond with commands to be sent in multiplayer. Loaded from a config file so I can add as many as I need? (If client mods can't be discussed here, just let me know)
#552 [13:05] <xales> Trel: #risucraft would probably be a better place to ask
#553 [13:05] <xales> fungustus: Not off the top of my head, other than a symbolic link (which Windows doesn't support IIRC)
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#555 [13:11] <Trel> xales: thanks, I'll ask there
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#559 [13:13] <oldtopman> xales: Where did M go?
#560 [13:13] * oldtopman gets a wugmemo
#560 [13:13] <xales> It stopped existing more than a year ago ._.
#561 [13:13] <oldtopman> dawwww
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#566 [13:40] <jschuur> I've got a question about installing texture packs. I've successfully installed the Sphax texture pack, but the addon instructions keep saying to install additional files into the folder for that texture pack. The Sphax pack is just a ZIP and there's no sphax specific subdirectory of the texturepacks folder
#567 [13:40] <neersighted> You unzip it and then rezip it
#568 [13:40] <jschuur> Should I just rebuild the ZIP then with the addons?
#569 [13:40] <jschuur> Yeah, that's what I thought. But none of the instructions for the addons mentioned that. Trying that right now
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#571 [13:42] <sliqq> hey guys, since 1 week, I have horrible lags in-game. As soon as i start Minecraft (in main menu) my ping raises until i got timeouts. I tried another version of java (running 64-bit) and disabled all of my antivir and firewall stuff. Nothing works. In other games i don't have any problems.
#572 [13:42] <sliqq> anyone who can help?
#573 [13:42] <Calinou> sliqq: probably the server's fault
#574 [13:43] <Calinou> also: lags, or low FPS?
#575 [13:43] <sliqq> it's not the server's fault. it's on every server + singleplayer
#576 [13:44] <Calinou> you can't lag in singleplayer.
#577 [13:44] <sliqq> no low fps, it's just that my internet is breaking down
#578 [13:44] <Calinou> ah
#579 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> [20:44] <+Calinou> you can't lag in singleplayer.
#580 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> FPS
#581 [13:44] <Calinou> Grim_Reaper: yes, that """"""""lag""""""".
#582 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> hehe you got +qd ;3
#583 [13:45] <Calinou> it's just negligible
#584 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#585 [13:46] <Calinou> sliqq: are you using wifi or wired internet?
#586 [13:46] <Calinou> also, what is your java version/operating system
#587 [13:47] <sliqq> yeah i'm using wireless lan but never had problems
#588 [13:48] <sliqq> windows 7 64-Bit with java 64-Bit
#589 [13:48] <jschuur> Hrm, unzipping and rezipping the texture pack ZIP, even without adding any new files to it, seems to invalidate it as a texture pack. It's displayed differently in the texture pack folder (grayed out, no custom icon for it, no 2nd line of text), and it won't activate when selected
#590 [13:48] <Calinou> java 6?
#591 [13:48] <Calinou> also: try using ethernet as much as you can
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#594 [13:48] <Calinou> jschuur: you need to select the files _themselves_, not the folder with the files inside
#595 [13:49] <Calinou> you should select "terrain.png", and many other folders like "mob"...
#596 [13:49] <jschuur> Calinou: For the addon? Shouldn't they go into a ZIP with the same directory structure?
#597 [13:49] <Calinou> a pack is a .zip with many textures inside.
#598 [13:50] <Calinou> what "addons"? are you using any mods?
#599 [13:50] <Calinou> and yes, to use HD textures you need to use a patcher/optifiner
#600 [13:50] <Calinou> optifine*
#601 [13:50] <jschuur> Right. With shortm top level directories.
#602 [13:50] <jschuur> Oh, the base texture pack works fine. I'm using MC patcher for HD textures
#603 [13:50] <jschuur> I'm just trying to throw addons for RedPower and IC2 etc into the mix for Sphax
#604 [13:50] * Calinou prefers optifine, though
#604 [13:51] <Calinou> jschuur: put the textures in the .zip, should probably work like this
#605 [13:52] <jschuur> That's what I tried. I even went and simply unzipped the base zip first, then immediately rezipped it, same filename, no changes to the content. It's as if my zip app (Mac's builtin compress context menu) creates a ZIP in a slightly different way
#606 [13:52] <Calinou> mac ._...
#607 [13:52] <sliqq> java 7
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#609 [13:53] <Calinou> don't use java 7.
#610 [13:54] <Calinou> it's still experimentl, unlike Scammer226 told you
#611 [13:54] <Calinou> +what
#612 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah java 7 = meh
#613 [13:54] <jschuur> But none of the add-on texture pack instructions even mention rezipping the base zip with add-on content. There has to be another way to install these, or the instructions are just bad.
#614 [13:54] <sliqq> okay, will try it
#615 [13:54] <jschuur> See http://www.eclipse-project.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6 e.g.
#616 [13:55] <Calinou> you should "patch" the zip with files
#617 [13:55] <Calinou> unfortunately mac's archive manager doesn't seem to like that
#618 [13:56] <Calinou> not enough user-friendly(R)
#619 [13:57] <jschuur> I'll try a third party one.
#620 [13:57] <jschuur> When I get back, you can continue to cast subtle jabs at my platform of choice ;)
#621 [13:57] <Morrolan> Just unzip it, throw the files in and zip it back up. *shrug*
#622 [13:58] <Calinou> I got to go now, bye ^^
#623 [13:58] <jschuur> Morrolan: That's what I tried. I even tried just unzipping and rezipping by itself, that seems to be enough to not have it be a valid texture pack in Minecraft's eyes
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#625 [14:02] <SeySayux> How can I make sure modloader is actually loading a mod?
#626 [14:02] <jschuur> SeySayux: There's a log file
#627 [14:03] <jschuur> SeySayux: Look at ModLoader.txt in your minecraft folder
#628 [14:04] <SeySayux> jschuur: sorry, I can't find anything with that name (I knew there used to be a logfile named ModLoader.txt, I just can't find it anymore)
#629 [14:04] <jschuur> SeySayux: I have one in my current install and it seems to list mods it loads
#630 [14:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? win/.minecraft
#631 [14:04] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
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#633 [14:05] <SeySayux> ~/Library/Application Data/minecraft, and no. I'll try creating an empty file and see if it uses that.
#634 [14:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ah. mac
#635 [14:07] <oFicaL|3> Hello My English is very bad :D I have a problem. I purchased Minecraft. I activated the account, and after about 2 weeks (today) I can not log in and wrote me that I do not have premium account. My account is: ofical. Thank you for solving
#636 [14:07] <SeySayux> Nope, the file is just empty. I'm fairly adamant I've properly installed modloader though, as Rei's Minimap loads properly.
#637 [14:07] <jschuur> Oh, and I believe I solved my problem. I can't rezip from the parent dir of the unzipped texture pack zip, I have to rezip from within the texture pack folder.
#638 [14:07] <jschuur> …which is exactly what Calinou said earlier and I didn't catch it ;)
#639 [14:08] <jschuur> oFicaL|3: That sounds like something you should ask Minecraft's official support about.
#640 [14:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oFicaL|3: what website did you purchase minecraft from?
#641 [14:11] <oFicaL|3> I bought the Minecraft smskey.cz because I had no choice
#642 [14:12] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :scam
#643 [14:12] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#644 [14:12] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#645 [14:12] <Mikkula1> Then it's most probably alt
#646 [14:12] <Mikkula1> aka cracked account
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#648 [14:13] <jschuur> No choice?
#649 [14:13] <SeySayux> Hmmz, would anybody know a reason why ModLoader does not log anything?
#650 [14:13] <oFicaL|3> but normally I activated the account I have from them and also other keys are fine
#651 [14:13] <|Kiikun|Janus|> SeySayux: try askign in #risucraft
#652 [14:15] <SeySayux> |Kiikun|Janus|: k, thanks
#653 [14:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oFicaL|3: yes. then the scammers told their bank to take the money back from mojang. mojang then disables the giftcode.
#654 [14:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oFicaL|3: http://www.mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#655 [14:15] <jschuur> SeySayux: Permissions? You're looking into the wrong folder?
#656 [14:17] <oFicaL|3> Okey Thanks :(
#657 [14:18] <SeySayux> jschuur: r&w for me (I assume Minecraft does not run under a substitute account? It even can't without I explicitly granting it root permissions, so, no) and 2) Running a full system search
#658 [14:18] <jschuur> SeySayux: Yeah, those suggestions sounded like a stretch.
#659 [14:18] <jschuur> I run MC with symlinks pointing to different minecraft folders, so it seemed remotely likely that you were accidentally looking into the wrong one
#660 [14:19] <SeySayux> Hmm, it seems that #risucraft and #pokemon got accidentially mixed up. Oh well.
#661 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#662 [14:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> #risumon and #pokecraft?
#663 [14:23] <jschuur> Well, my addon texture pack installed. Yay me.
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#671 [15:12] <jindst> Hi, Iam palyer from Czech Republic , do you speak Czech pleas?
#672 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Ne.
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#674 [15:15] <gooddj> Is here any supporter?
#675 [15:15] <Boreeas> Nope
#676 [15:15] <Boreeas> Only 160 bots
#677 [15:15] <Wug> <xales> Wug: Where is your troubleshooting launcher? :p
#678 [15:16] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#679 [15:16] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#680 [15:16] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#681 [15:16] <Wug> xales: see also
#682 [15:16] <Boreeas> Wug: I don't know what it is, but your launcher magically fixes stuff
#683 [15:16] <Wug> ;search
#684 [15:16] <WugBot> Matches for "": ! 1.0 1.9 1/1000 10.5.8 :d account/mojang amd/beta andrewph ar ascii ask av avast avg avira backtrace beep bondedi bondedix bongame bonirc bonvps bonweb bot browsers bukkit bullguard c660 cantconnect carbine changenick check check/java cial cit classic/! classic/error4 client cmrs cookies crash/abn cruelnoise daw demo derpjava directions dont/ding doop down driver/naming driver/os/bits/mfcr/example driver/win7/x64/intel/4series driver/win7/x
#685 [15:16] <Wug> ;search launcher
#686 [15:16] <WugBot> Matches for "launcher": client illegal linux/client mac/client not/downloaded server ts/launcher win/client
#687 [15:16] <gooddj> Boreeas good fake :D
#688 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> ;andrewph
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#690 [15:16] <Wug> gooddj: lol. theres like 5 bots and however many people
#691 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> how does this work
#692 [15:17] <Boreeas> :andrewph
#693 [15:17] <WugBot> andrewph: A deranged pedophile that lives in Southern Washington. He is BananaBot. Walk away as fast as possible if he says anything about giving you "the banana".
#694 [15:17] <Wug> tyteen4a03: factoids are :
#695 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> I see
#696 [15:17] <gooddj> Wug I know ...lol
#697 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> AndrewPH: give me the banana :DDDD
#698 [15:17] <Boreeas> ;- andrewph
#699 [15:17] <gooddj> We have any problems whit gift code on minecraft account ..
#700 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> gooddj: where did you get your gift code?
#701 [15:20] <gooddj> From friend, He has paypal and he pays me gift code from minecraft.net page.
#702 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#703 [15:20] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
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#705 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Do not ever purchase gift codes. They are meant to be given, not sold.
#706 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> unless you are purchasing them directly from www.minecraft.net
#707 [15:23] <gooddj> DopeGhoti Can gift code expirated???
#708 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> No, but the monies used to purchase them can be charged back, and Mojang will then invalidate the code.
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#710 [15:27] <gooddj> Dope oki thanks :)
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#715 [15:29] <jeffray> Hey guys. How are you?
#716 [15:30] <WoM_Player_A> good
#717 [15:30] <jeffray> Ah, good to hear. :D
#718 [15:30] <d> lol
#719 [15:30] <jeffray> I got a question. So, is there anybody who knows a bit modding?
#720 [15:30] <d> i want to know me as ALL_Gamer
#721 [15:31] <ALL_Gamer> cool
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#723 [15:31] <jeffray> Does anybody know anything about rendering in Minecraft?
#724 [15:32] <ALL_Gamer> i don't know how to make an minecraft server
#725 [15:32] <jeffray> bukkit.org and you find all you need. ;)
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#727 [15:35] <ALL_Gamer> hi
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#729 [15:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> jeffray: the renderer uses lwjgl to use openGL :P
#730 [15:39] <jeffray> Yeah, what I am searching for is the class or the part of the class, that says the java lw game library "This is Polygone 1, this is 2, this is 3 - connect them and use a texture"
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#732 [15:39] <jeffray> --> How does this work? I did not find such code at all.
#733 [15:39] <Boreeas> I think that's LWJGL-internal
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#735 [15:40] <Boreeas> Other than that, you may have more luck in #mcp-modding
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#737 [15:40] <jeffray> well, the GLSL mod only uses a modifyed minecraft.jar, so it should be related to the java files compiled in there.
#738 [15:40] <jeffray> ah, thanks.
#739 [15:40] <jeffray> did not find a better channel. very much thank you at all. :)
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#745 [15:50] <adampro326> Hi, i got a question, or more likely asking for a suggestion. When you create a server, where should you create the map? Should I start creating it in the server, or just create it in single player and then put it in the server?
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#747 [15:50] <jeffray> Just let the Server render a random map.
#748 [15:50] <jeffray> This is more easy and works the same way like in SP
#749 [15:50] <jeffray> This is more easy and works the same way like in SP
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#751 [15:51] <adampro326> wouldn't it be better to make it single player and then put it online? that way you don't have to pay to the dedicated host before the server isn't even released..
#752 [15:52] <Boreeas> adampro326: You can download bukkit on your local compter and run it
#753 [15:52] <clarjon1> what
#754 [15:52] <adampro326> or that...true that, how did i forget that
#755 [15:52] <Boreeas> adampro326: This will create a normal, a nether and an end-world
#756 [15:52] <adampro326> yes Boreeas you are completely right, i don't know how i forgot about that
#757 [15:53] <adampro326> thxs!
#758 [15:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? smp/serversetup
#759 [15:53] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#760 [15:53] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#762 [15:57] <Induril> Hey guys you mind giving me a hand? Every time i try to start up minecraft the window crashes and closes. I get just past the login page and it dies
#763 [15:59] <Induril> ???
#764 [15:59] <Induril> Anyone here?
#765 [15:59] <clarjon1> Well, we need more info than that
#766 [15:59] <Induril> what would you like?
#767 [15:59] <clarjon1> java version, operating system, specs of your computer, if there's any hs_err type files lying around...
#768 [16:00] <Induril> im on a windows 7 laptop running 64bit windows
#769 [16:00] <Induril> current java version
#770 [16:00] <clarjon1> there's two 'current' versions
#771 [16:00] <clarjon1> 1.6 and 1.7
#772 [16:00] <Induril> ok 2 seconds
#773 [16:02] <Induril> 1.6.0_29
#774 [16:03] <clarjon1> alright
#775 [16:03] <clarjon1> do you have both 32 and 64bit versions installed?
#776 [16:03] <Induril> i have 4gb ram 1gb dedicated vram ATI radeon card
#777 [16:03] <Induril> 2.26 dual core processor
#778 [16:04] <Induril> of java? yea
#779 [16:04] <clarjon1> Good show.
#780 [16:05] <Induril> should i not?
#781 [16:05] <clarjon1> you should.
#782 [16:05] <Induril> okay well thats always good
#783 [16:05] <clarjon1> Now, can you get it to play with the browser version?
#784 [16:05] <clarjon1> ( playing it thru minecraft.net )
#785 [16:06] <Induril> doesnt get past the done loading page
#786 [16:08] <Induril> or update page whatever you call it
#787 [16:08] <Induril> the loading bar sits just below done
#788 [16:09] <clarjon1> hmmm.
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#790 [16:09] <Induril> ive tried deleting everything in my .minecraft in order to get a clean version
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#792 [16:09] <Induril> but it wont even let me update after that
#793 [16:10] <NotiCon> did you try and replace the .exe?
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#795 [16:14] <Induril_> didnt work
#796 [16:14] <Induril_> still here
#797 [16:14] <Induril_> XD
#798 [16:15] <clarjon1> firewall?
#799 [16:15] <Induril_> lets it past
#800 [16:15] <clarjon1> Last time you ran a malware scan? :s
#801 [16:15] <Induril_> created exceptions for java and minecraft
#802 [16:15] <Induril_> daily
#803 [16:16] <Induril_> will run another one now just in case but yesterday at 4
#804 [16:17] <clarjon1> grab the .jar launcher, and run it from command line?
#805 [16:17] <clarjon1> ( the linux launcher )
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#807 [16:19] <Induril_> how do i do that?
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#809 [16:22] <Induril_> how do i run it through the command line
#810 [16:28] <clarjon1> run dialog, cmd.exe
#811 [16:29] <clarjon1> cd to the directory you downloaded it to
#812 [16:29] <clarjon1> ( eg: cd Downloads
#813 [16:29] <clarjon1> )
#814 [16:29] <clarjon1> then java -jar ./minecraft.jar
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#816 [16:29] <clarjon1> Induril_: sorry for the delay, i'm at work :)
#817 [16:30] <clarjon1> .....
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#820 [16:50] <sugoi> is icedtea6 bad for mcs?
#821 [16:50] <sugoi> as often java 1.6 is recommended for clients
#822 [16:51] <sugoi> ah
#823 [16:51] <sugoi> mistype, icedtea7 **
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#828 [16:53] <Boreeas> sugoi: icedtea? Isn't that part of the openJDK packet?
#829 [16:54] <sugoi> Boreeas: yeah
#830 [16:54] <sugoi> igoring issues with icedtea vs native jvm -- does mcs have any issues with java 1.7
#831 [16:55] <sugoi> and, s/mcs/minecraft server/ - in case that's just _my_ lingo
#832 [16:55] <Boreeas> Mhm
#833 [16:55] <Boreeas> Well, the client is known to have issues with Java 7
#834 [16:55] <Boreeas> Not sure about the server, though, but I would imagine that it would work under Java 7
#835 [16:56] <sugoi> k
#836 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Both the client and server have been known to have issues with Java 7.
#837 [16:56] <sugoi> bleh
#838 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Not everybody experiences it, but it's a significant portion
#839 [16:56] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: Ah, really?
#840 [16:56] * sugoi removes icedtea7
#840 [16:56] <Boreeas> I wonder were the issue is
#841 [16:56] <Boreeas> s/were/where/
#842 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Betting it has to do with ipv6 of Java 7, as well as a number of other things that were made default in 7
#843 [16:58] <sugoi> oooh, that makes a lot of sense
#844 [16:58] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: word on whether mc is looking to support java 7?
#845 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - As of last time I spoke with Jeb, the Mojang team was still working in Java 5, because of Mac compatibility
#846 [17:00] <Boreeas> >mac
#847 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Now, like I said, the java 7 issues don't affect everybody. Wug tells me that he's got Minecraft working fine in some flavor of *nix using 7.
#848 [17:01] <sugoi> ok
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#850 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> But a significant number of java 7 issues still come in here for me to not recommend it.
#851 [17:02] <sugoi> nor would i
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#853 [17:02] <sugoi> curious tho, do you know which flavor?
#854 [17:02] * sugoi runs gentoo
#854 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> You'd have to poke Wug for that
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#856 [17:03] <sugoi> Wug: what's your linux distro? or, if many: context, what *nix flavor appears to run mc on java 7?
#857 [17:03] <Eomere> Hey im having some trouble with my minecraft, it crashes when it gets to the loading screen
#858 [17:03] <Eomere> i have an hs_err file
#859 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Please post the contents of the hs_err_pid file to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#860 [17:05] <Eomere> ok
#861 [17:06] <Eomere> http://pastebin.com/btS3SNgm
#862 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your ATI drivers. Has minecraft worked before?
#863 [17:07] <Eomere> yea
#864 [17:08] <Eomere> everything was sweet up until today
#865 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Did you use any mods? Any HD texture packs?
#866 [17:08] * sugoi thinks its graphics .. and even tho grey answered while i was typing, i'm still 'sending'
#866 [17:08] <Eomere> yes
#867 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you remove them through "force Update", see if you still have this problem.
#868 [17:09] <sugoi> Eomere: it is always worth trying vanilla minecraft with any issue first, to rule out mods being the problem, as GreyVulpine suggesting, try force update
#869 [17:09] <sugoi> suggested*
#870 [17:09] <Eomere> i cant even update it once ive deleted everything in my .minecraft
#871 [17:10] <sugoi> Eomere: can you redownload the launcher?
#872 [17:10] <Eomere> tried
#873 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> And what happens exactly?
#874 [17:10] <Eomere> hold on
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#876 [17:12] <Eomere> oh wtf okay now its downloading again... okay hold on ill see if it finishes first
#877 [17:14] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: he's also on 1.6.0_27, should he upgrade or is that not a big deal?
#878 [17:14] * GreyVulpine mehs and shrugs
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#879 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: it's recommended to upgrade, though it's probably not required to solve anything
#880 [17:14] <Eomere_> okay it didnt make a difference it still crashes
#881 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Eomere - Then do you know where to download updated ATI drivers for your computer?
#882 [17:15] <Eomere_> i think so
#883 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> From ATI's site?
#884 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#885 [17:15] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#886 [17:15] <Eomere_> oh yea, i usually do it through the control centre on my pc though
#887 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend doing it through the site.
#888 [17:17] <Eomere_> okay
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#890 [17:20] <Eomere_> still makes no difference
#891 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Eomere_ - Erm, did you update your video drivers?
#892 [17:24] <Eomere_> yea
#893 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have, and what drivers did you download?
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#896 [17:26] <Eomere_> ATI mobility Radeon HD 5470
#897 [17:26] <Eomere_> downloaded everything on the downloads page i coud
#898 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you download these drivers and install them? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#899 [17:29] <Eomere_> lol maybs went to the wrong page then
#900 [17:29] <Eomere_> my bad
#901 [17:32] <Eomere_> where did you go to download those i must have done something weird
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#904 [17:41] <bejoe905> Can I get a link to the magic client? mine doesn't want to connect me to a server.
#905 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Neither we, nor Mojang support third party clients.
#906 [17:42] <bejoe905> so what am i supposed to do then? it isnt even giving me a report when it crashes.
#907 [17:42] <xales> Are you using any mods or similar such things?
#908 [17:43] <bejoe905> yeah, i have several.
#909 [17:43] <xales> Try running it without them.
#910 [17:43] <bejoe905> ...alright.
#911 [17:43] <xales> Crashes tend to be caused by mods
#912 [17:43] <bejoe905> even if they were working earlier today?
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#914 [17:45] <bejoe905> it worked without the mods
#915 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Then you have your answer, why minecraft wasn't working
#916 [17:45] <sugoi> the interesting point of logic here, is that -- ppl assume the mods would continue to work fine because they were working earlier (today, yesterday, etc) ... but assume minecraft-vanilla is the problem...even tho it was running fine also
#917 [17:45] <bejoe905> ...so i cant use that combo of mods... great.
#918 [17:46] <Omega_Guardian> maybe the server was just down?
#919 [17:46] <sugoi> bejoe905: we don't support the mods, perhaps try their forums and report the problems to them
#920 [17:46] <bejoe905> Omega: It was connecting me to the server, but just displaying a black screen for about 3 secs before crashing.
#921 [17:46] <Omega_Guardian> ah
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#923 [17:53] <Eomere> @GreyVulpine Dude that driver update must not have been for my card cause it just sent my whole computer into a shitstorm
#924 [17:53] <Eomere> i got blue screen of death and my resolution is all fucked
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#927 [17:54] <Eomere> i got bluescreen of death and my resolution is completely messed
#928 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> First off, you can change your resolution by right clicking your desktop and choosing the Screen Resolution option
#929 [17:55] <Eomere> lol im not that bad
#930 [17:56] <Eomere> it changed my max resolution to only 1024x768
#931 [17:56] <Eomere> it should be 1366
#932 [17:56] <Eomere> and my whole computer is slowed to a snails pace
#933 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Well, the catalyst drivers for Windows 7-64 bit were at the link I gave you earlier
#934 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#935 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure they're correct
#936 [17:59] <Eomere> for the mobilty radeon??
#937 [17:59] <Eomere> the laptop equivelant
#938 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> You did not mention a mobility Radeon. One moment
#939 [18:00] <Eomere> i did you must have misread
#940 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Then you need to download and install these: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#941 [18:01] <Eomere> i had done that previously
#942 [18:01] <sugoi> Eomere: i thought you said you use your control conter
#943 [18:01] <sugoi> center*
#944 [18:01] <Eomere> i usually do
#945 [18:02] <Eomere> in this instance today, i did as you said and downloaded everything on that page
#946 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Try those drivers again
#947 [18:03] <Eomere> im going to try a system restore first before i download any more
#948 [18:03] <Eomere> be back
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#952 [18:13] <langkid1> ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌
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#954 [18:22] <sugoi> langkid1: i think you're doing it wrong
#955 [18:22] <langkid1> sugoi, that's ChauffeR's face
#956 [18:22] * sugoi was trying to be funny
#956 [18:36] <sugoi> questions here have begun including a lot of issues with mods
#957 [18:36] <sugoi> i wonder why people don't realize that mods are just community content that could cause all sorts of issues
#958 [18:36] * sugoi love using mods -- that's not the point
#958 [18:37] <sugoi> loves*
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#962 [18:55] <NinjaDoo> how can my friend and i play?
#963 [18:55] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: you need a server
#964 [18:56] <NinjaDoo> Do we have to start our own server or could we LAN?
#965 [18:56] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: either you run minecraft from a computer you both connect to, or find a minecraft server some random joe on the internet is running that you can join
#966 [18:56] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: you can "start your own server" on a "LAN" - so "yes" ? i'm not sure what the conflict of those two options is
#967 [18:57] <NinjaDoo> Haha sorry about that how would you advise looking for some "random joe's" server?
#968 [18:57] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: well actually *I* don't suggest that, just wanted to point out that the community has a lot of open servers
#969 [18:58] <sugoi> personally, i think 'random joe' is a foul mouthed lunatic
#970 [18:58] <sugoi> but, that's another topic :)
#971 [18:58] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: you can run your own server and keep it safe pretty easily
#972 [18:58] <sugoi> especially in the same LAN
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#974 [18:58] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: so let's assume you'll be running your own mcs (minecraft server)
#975 [18:59] <NinjaDoo> So we have two laptops and two premium accounts what would you say the best way to play together?
#976 [18:59] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: imo, the best option is the lan option we are discussing
#977 [18:59] <sugoi> (or we 'are about' to discuss)
#978 [18:59] <NinjaDoo> Okay my opologies for inturrupting
#979 [18:59] <sugoi> haha, no worries ! :)
#980 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp/serversetup
#981 [18:59] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#982 [18:59] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#983 [18:59] * |Kiikun| whistles innocently
#983 [19:00] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: so only 2 latops? not a 3rd machine?
#984 [19:00] * sugoi kicks |Kiikun|
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#986 [19:00] <|Kiikun|> :P
#987 [19:00] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: it might be of worth reading through that link |Kiikun| gave you
#988 [19:00] <NinjaDoo> No haha is a third machine required?
#989 [19:00] <sugoi> nice :)
#990 [19:00] <sugoi> apology accepted
#991 [19:01] <|Kiikun|> you dont need a 3rd machine if one of the two is good enough
#992 [19:01] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: no
#993 [19:01] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: right, 2 is sufficient, just taxes one of the two machines more
#994 [19:01] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: because that ONE machine will be running the game and a server
#995 [19:01] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: it possible, just takes a bit more beefy of a machine
#996 [19:01] <NinjaDoo> Alright I follow you what would "beefy" be?
#997 [19:01] <sugoi> meh....
#998 [19:02] <sugoi> prolly 3GB free
#999 [19:02] <sugoi> 1 for the game, 2 for server?
#1000 [19:02] <sugoi> i don't know, i've not tried to reduce ram use, i actually increase it
#1001 [19:02] <sugoi> i give my server up to 7
#1002 [19:02] <|Kiikun|> 1 for game, 1 for server, 1 for os :P
#1003 [19:02] <sugoi> yes, that too
#1004 [19:02] <sugoi> tho, my gentoo server idles on 70MB of ram
#1005 [19:03] <NinjaDoo> We're cheking my pal's
#1006 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> :mclol
#1007 [19:03] <WugBot> mclol: http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#1008 [19:03] <sugoi> a 4GB machine would be good, 2GB will be too small/few
#1009 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> isnt this for only 2 people anyway?
#1010 [19:04] <NinjaDoo> yes it's for two
#1011 [19:04] <NinjaDoo> he has 5.58
#1012 [19:04] <sugoi> 5.58 GB ram?
#1013 [19:04] <sugoi> that's only completely random
#1014 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: probably 6gb windified
#1015 [19:05] <sugoi> touche
#1016 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> and laptopified
#1017 [19:05] <sugoi> haha
#1018 [19:05] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: so that'll work
#1019 [19:05] <NinjaDoo> yes we are extremely casual don't mock us haha
#1020 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> laptopified = chunk stolen for video ram :P
#1021 [19:05] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: follow the instructions here:
#1022 [19:05] <sugoi> ?? smp/serversetup
#1023 [19:05] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#1024 [19:06] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1025 [19:06] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: come back with any questions
#1026 [19:06] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: note, you will NOT be 'port forwarding'
#1027 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> thats only for opening the server to the internet
#1028 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> much like... *kicks server online* this
#1029 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> !check
#1030 [19:08] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: that link has a lot of extra info, more than you'll need, the basic steps are this:
#1031 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> download minecraft_server.exe. put into folder on desktop. run exe.
#1032 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1033 [19:09] <sugoi> 1. run the minecraft server on one of the two machines, 2. get the ip of that machine (something like 192.168.1.#), and start the game and add that ip to your multiplayer list, and connect and play
#1034 [19:10] <NinjaDoo> Does it normally take forever to download?
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#1036 [19:10] <NinjaDoo> I'd say 1kb/s
#1037 [19:10] <sugoi> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe
#1038 [19:10] <sugoi> right?
#1039 [19:10] <NinjaDoo> yup thats the one
#1040 [19:10] <sugoi> i pulled that directly from: http://www.minecraft.net/download btw
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#1042 [19:11] <sugoi> k
#1043 [19:11] <sugoi> for me, no, it's always fast
#1044 [19:11] <NinjaDoo> my machine downloaded it in a heartbeat as well
#1045 [19:11] <NinjaDoo> It might be because he is on chrome and I'm on Firefox I guess.
#1046 [19:11] <sugoi> NinjaDoo: i just got it at 1.39MB/s
#1047 [19:12] <sugoi> tho, it's only ~1.4MB, and wget isn't super accurate about speeds for <1s
#1048 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> NinjaDoo: once the server is open, you can stop it again and change any settings you wish to in the server.properties file :P and make sure to add yourself and your friend as ops
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#1051 [19:19] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: so who/what is |Kiikun|Janus| ?
#1052 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> laptop
#1053 [19:19] <sugoi> i hate that autocomplete always gives me that one first
#1054 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> both are me anyway
#1055 [19:20] <sugoi> any particular reason you don't prefer to share the connection from one point?
#1056 [19:20] <|Kiikun|> because i use mirc
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#1063 [19:35] <Guest22434> I can't update Minecraft, how do I fix this?
#1064 [19:35] <DreadLindwyrm> What happens when you try?
#1065 [19:35] <Guest22434> Just says failed
#1066 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> What is the full text of the error?
#1067 [19:36] <Guest22434> failed to launch
#1068 [19:36] <Guest22434> access denied
#1069 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Is there more to the error?
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#1071 [19:37] <Guest22434> no
#1072 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac?
#1073 [19:37] <Guest22434> windows
#1074 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows?
#1075 [19:38] <Guest22434> vista
#1076 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata% -- Find the .minecraft folder and delete everything inside except for 'saves'. Then run minecraft again
#1077 [19:39] <Guest22434> all i have is bin screenshots and stats
#1078 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Delete those.
#1079 [19:39] <Guest22434> Ok.
#1080 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the minecraft launcher, run as admin. Log in
#1081 [19:40] <Guest22434> I think this is working
#1082 [19:41] <Guest22434> :)
#1083 [19:41] <Guest22434> <#
#1084 [19:41] <Guest22434> <3
#1085 [19:41] <Guest22434> Thank you
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#1087 [19:45] <sugoi> grey gets all the love
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#1090 [20:17] <NinjaDoo> so we got it running but when we break blocks they just reappear
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#1096 [20:30] <clarjon1> NinjaDoo: move out of the spawn area
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#1100 [20:41] <Amber> hi...I have a question about getting on a SMP server...i keep getting the same error message, and I was wondering if anyone could help me with it.
#1101 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> What's the error?
#1102 [20:42] <Amber> can i give a screenshot of it?
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#1104 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> upload it to an image hosting site like imgur.com and give us a URl
#1105 [20:43] <Amber> http://i.imgur.com/3u3D1.png thats the error
#1106 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Is the server up?
#1107 [20:45] <Amber> yes
#1108 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to get in contact with the server's admin?
#1109 [20:46] <Amber> i don't think so...
#1110 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> I see this issue quite frequently with player.dat files getting corrupted on the server. Only way to fix it is to have the server's admin delete the file.
#1111 [20:46] <Amber> okay.
#1112 [20:46] <Amber> Thank you VERY much
#1113 [20:46] <Wug> what server is it
#1114 [20:47] <Amber> WoM SMP
#1115 [20:47] <Wug> can you post a link
#1116 [20:47] <Wug> I don't know it
#1117 [20:47] <Amber> sure. hang on one moment...
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#1119 [20:48] <Amber> I think its smp.womjr.com
#1120 [20:51] <Wug> theres a whitelist so I cant tell if somethings up or not
#1121 [20:51] <Wug> contact the admins, theyll be able to sort it out
#1122 [20:52] <Amber> okay. Thank you very much
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#1137 [22:22] <billythekid2525> is there anyway i can edit maps?
#1138 [22:23] <mickster04> i find a shovel and a pickaxe are useful
#1139 [22:24] <billythekid2525> ok but i ment a program
#1140 [22:24] <mickster04> :p
#1141 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Try MCedit
#1142 [22:24] <mickster04> i would assume you could edit a save file
#1143 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#1144 [22:24] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1145 [22:25] <billythekid2525> thanks
#1146 [22:26] <billythekid2525> does it matter which one i download? or does it need to be a certin one?
#1147 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> All depends on what operating system you're on
#1148 [22:28] <billythekid2525> well a laptop for one but i have the windows 7
#1149 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Then get the 32 bit windows version
#1150 [22:28] <billythekid2525> k thanks
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#1152 [22:36] <Infexious> !paid Infexious
#1153 [22:37] <Infexious> !paid Giggity73
#1154 [22:38] <Infexious> http://www.box.com/s/ar5y1dpk725mnzl3kvr0
#1155 [22:38] <billythekid2525> what was that about?
#1156 [22:38] <Infexious> oh idk
#1157 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> any why are you linking a server jar from somewhere thats not minecraft.net?
#1158 [22:39] <Infexious> oh i was just sharing y custom server mod
#1159 [22:39] <Infexious> i didnt know...
#1160 [22:41] <|Kiikun|> ??> Infexious tos
#1161 [22:41] <VoxelHead> Infexious: (tos) http://www.minecraft.net/terms - Yes, if you bought the game in beta, you get the full release too.
#1162 [22:42] <Infexious> what?
#1163 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> Infexious: specificly read 'The One Major Rule' section
#1164 [22:44] <Infexious> ah well i knew that already after you told me. seems a bit redundant hmm?
#1165 [22:44] <Infexious> ah well i knew that already after you told me. seems a bit redundant hmm?
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#1168 [22:50] <billythekid2525> i put a spawn point for slimes but they arnt spawning
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#1170 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> slimes don't spawn from spawners
#1171 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Slimes follow a different spawning algorithm
#1172 [22:51] <zkxs> the derp algorithm
#1173 [22:51] <billythekid2525> darn so how do i spawn slimes?
#1174 [22:51] <OfFrostandFlame> i'm having trouble logging into the single player game
#1175 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> billythekid2525 - See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Slime#Spawning
#1176 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> OfFrostandFlame - And what happens?
#1177 [22:52] <OfFrostandFlame> it says updating minecraft, under that it says loading done, but the bar isn't complete and does not move
#1178 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> OfFrostandFlame - Has minecraft worked before?
#1179 [22:52] <OfFrostandFlame> yes
#1180 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> OfFrostandFlame - Go into the launcher, before logging in, hit Options, then Force Update. Log in after you've done this
#1181 [22:54] <billythekid2525> wooow thats alot of stuff i dont get but o well
#1182 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> billythekid2525 - Put it simply. Slimes only spawn in certain 16x16 chunks of land, the algorithm which, is very complex
#1183 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> They also only spawn near the bottom of the map
#1184 [22:56] <billythekid2525> ok that i get so much for slimes what can i spawn that would be easy besides zombies,achers and spiders? are they any?
#1185 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> skellies
#1186 [22:56] <billythekid2525> what are there wepeons?
#1187 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> bow+arrow?
#1188 [22:56] <billythekid2525> o ok
#1189 [22:58] <billythekid2525> what is the seed generator?
#1190 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> To understand that, you need to understand what a Seed value is. It's the starting point for map generation. If I generated a world with 12345, and you generated a world with that same value, both our worlds would be the same
#1191 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Many world generation features are based off that Seed value. The location of slime-enabled chunks, where biomes are generated, how the world looks...
#1192 [23:02] <billythekid2525> oo ok i get it thanks
#1193 [23:02] <billythekid2525> well im off see ya
#1194 [23:02] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1196 [23:16] <Saratar> Having Java Memory Crash Issues? Using Vista 64? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1063206-fixing-java-memory-in-windows-vista-64-solution/
#1197 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Saw that, my question is, why go through all that trouble? Why not just install 64 bit java?
#1198 [23:17] * |Kiikun| facepamls
#1198 [23:17] <Saratar> 3 times to no avail
#1199 [23:17] <Saratar> Vista sucks
#1200 [23:17] <Saratar> You say left, it go right
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#1202 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> We've 'solved' the out of memory issue on 64 bit Windows a long time ago.
#1203 [23:19] <Saratar> Sure did
#1204 [23:19] <Saratar> With command lines in TARGET and batch files
#1205 [23:19] <Saratar> This introduces 3rd party program CFF Explorer
#1206 [23:20] <Saratar> Which will help anyone on an x86 OS
#1207 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> note: not all #MCH helps make it onto the forums
#1208 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> I've given up on the forums back in '09
#1209 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> er, '10
#1210 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> yes... and we got an influx of 'yay! you fixed me!' when i decided to post the !fix on the forum
#1211 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> "{
#1212 [23:21] <Saratar> Still, you're helping people out. Muy bueno
#1213 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> !fix... Oh, the ! in username.
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#1215 [23:22] <Saratar> Anyways, if my solution helps people out then that's all I care about. Won't be staying in here, talking about it, etc
#1216 [23:23] * GreyVulpine nods.
#1216 [23:23] <Saratar> Just wanted to accept an invitation in here and post up something that took forever to fix :)
#1217 [23:23] <Saratar> Off to play some crash free Minecraft. Later all, good gaming
#1218 [23:23] <Saratar> Off to play some crash free Minecraft. Later all, good gaming
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#1226 [23:54] <langkid1> anyone here good with fopensock in PHP?
#1227 [23:54] <langkid1> I have to ask to ask :|
#1228 [23:55] <langkid1> yeah I'll just go
#1229 [23:55] <langkid1> I'm trying to send a packet in PHP after opening a socket to my MC server, the packet it the 0x02 handshake packet from client to server
#1230 [23:56] <langkid1> however I can't figure out how to send the username in the packet, as http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Handshake_.280x02.29 explains that the client must send a string that contains the username
#1231 [23:56] <langkid1> whenever I do my server prints 'java.io.IOException: Received string length longer than maximum allowed (27745 > 64)
#1232 [23:56] <langkid1> '
#1233 [23:57] <langkid1> I realize this isn't the channel for "PHP" help but, I was interested to see if anyone knew :)