#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> I just wish to confirm that your port forwarding rule, has the proper ip address. Are you able to connect to 192.168.1.3 using your minecraft client?
#2 [00:00] <pandaofchaotica> Let me load it up
#3 [00:00] <pandaofchaotica> yup, loaded right up
#4 [00:01] * GreyVulpine blinks and hmms.
#4 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Moment, let me see if I can connect.
#5 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> ;ip pandaofchaotica
#6 [00:01] <WugBot> IP address of pandaofchaotica is: 76.11.221.196
#7 [00:02] <pandaofchaotica> Mhmm, thats my external IP
#8 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is
#9 [00:02] <pandaofchaotica> So you able to connect Grey?
#10 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Give me a moment to launch minecraft.
#11 [00:03] <pandaofchaotica> kk
#12 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> I am unable to connect to that address.
#13 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Did you change anything in server.properties at all?
#14 [00:04] <pandaofchaotica> Hmm, maybe i should try a different bukkit version since it closed after DLing it
#15 [00:04] <pandaofchaotica> and makde online=false and corrected the port from my error earlier.
#16 [00:04] <Light5> Would anyone be willing to walk me through useing some tileentities to randomizing my models on it?
#17 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> pandaofchaotica - Could you post the contents of the server.properties file to pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we can look at it?
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#19 [00:05] <pandaofchaotica> yeah just a sec
#20 [00:05] <pandaofchaotica> http://pastebin.com/TWWtLXD6
#21 [00:06] <pandaofchaotica> brb
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#23 [00:06] <xenico> hello i need help
#24 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> pandaofchaotica - Hmm, that looks good to me. I'm thinking it's some sort of network issue.
#25 [00:07] <zkxs> I blame your router's security
#26 [00:08] <zkxs> `nmap -vv -sT -p25565 -PN 76.11.221.196` Returns state 'filtered' for port 25565
#27 [00:08] <Light5> xenico what you need help with?
#28 [00:09] <xenico> for some reason i cant login to my minecraft premium account
#29 [00:09] <pandaofchaotica> back and alright any idea how to fix it or should i tinker til its working?
#30 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> xenico - And why can't you?
#31 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> pandaofchaotica - I'd try a reset of the router, perhaps recreate the port forwarding rule again from scratch. Also disable any firewall/security software that may be filtering port 25565 traffic to test
#32 [00:11] <pandaofchaotica> Alright I'll give that a try.
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#34 [00:12] <xenico> idk i just went to sign into it and said it failed
#35 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> login failed?
#36 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Means your username/password is being entered wrong. Try resetting your password from: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#37 [00:15] <zkxs> It looks like panda's oppressive security might be at the router, and not some kind of software -- it is dropping pings too.
#38 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Completely? Might just not be responding to ICMP packets
#39 [00:15] <zkxs> I've only checked ICMP
#40 [00:17] <zkxs> And he's gone?
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#42 [00:20] <xenico> i dont even have the email i sgned up with my account for i paid like $20 for this game and cant even play it now
#43 [00:20] <Pandaofchaotica> OKay everything checked out, I removed the bukkit code from my run.bat and reverted it and it connects now, I think i need to open the port to bukkit somehow.
#44 [00:20] <xenico> i use a different email now
#45 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> xenico - Then you'll need to contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#47 [00:28] <xenico> ok i sent them an email ive been playing this game since like when it was in alpha and now i get my premium taken very fishy
#48 [00:28] <xenico> i think it was alpha not sure
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#50 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> !paid xenico
#51 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Your account's still there, and is still marked as premium
#52 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> You most likely just forgot your password
#53 [00:29] <Pandaofchaotica> Grey, got it to work, dont really like how i got it to work though :/
#54 [00:29] * GreyVulpine blinks
#54 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Explain?
#55 [00:30] <Pandaofchaotica> it was the craftbukkit.jar that needed access, and since my firewall will only let me select .exe I had to allow all my programs that want to connect to connect with inbound and outbound
#56 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#57 [00:31] <Pandaofchaotica> Yeah dont feels afe doing it so every time i bring the server down ill have to disable those rules and enable them when i wanna run my server
#58 [00:32] <Pandaofchaotica> safe*
#59 [00:32] <xenico> yes i have paid for minecraft on minecraft.net
#60 [00:32] <xenico> to get my minecraft account premium
#61 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> xenico - Yes. Your account is still premium. "Login Failed" means you're putting in the wrong password
#62 [00:33] <xenico> ok let me try again
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#64 [00:34] <xenico> still says login failed could someone of hacked it
#65 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> It's possible, if somebody knew your password and changed it
#66 [00:35] <Pandaofchaotica> But you should still be able to recover it on the site if you can access the email you used to create it.
#67 [00:35] <xenico> how do i recover it then
#68 [00:35] <zkxs> Pandaofchaotica: Is it possible for you to open a TCP port instead of allowing an application?
#69 [00:35] <xenico> and know one knows my password
#70 [00:36] <Cory__> Apparently someone did :P
#71 [00:36] <zkxs> I sure hope your password wasn't 'password'
#72 [00:36] <Pandaofchaotica> Ihave my TCP open, but Bukkit was getting blocked by my firewall so i had to find a way to allow it through.
#73 [00:36] <xenico> no my password was unique and no one knew
#74 [00:36] <xenico> it
#75 [00:37] <xenico> how do i recover it
#76 [00:37] <Pandaofchaotica> xenico just go to minecraft.net and click login, when your logging in there should be a link saying "forgot password" or "recover password" click it and input the required info to get it back.
#77 [00:37] <zkxs> Many firewalls let you either allow a specific application, or fully open a port (like 25565) to incoming traffic
#78 [00:37] <zkxs> You shouldn't need to do both
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#80 [00:38] <Pandaofchaotica> Mine wouldnt, I had to ginto the inbound rules and outbound rules, I opened the port from there for minecraft and minecraft_server but since bukkit was getting blocked and its a .jar and i can only add .exe to the list I had to allow all through that port.
#81 [00:38] <Pandaofchaotica> only solution i could come up with.
#82 [00:39] <Pandaofchaotica> going to Microsoft firewall settings i couldn't add a port or add the .jar so i had do it in advanced. and again, only solution i could think of for now.
#83 [00:39] <zkxs> Allowing all through the port isn't all that dangerous. 25565 isn't used for anything important
#84 [00:40] <Pandaofchaotica> Isn't it only used by minecraft?
#85 [00:40] <zkxs> Well, you can tell a server to run on whatever port you want. I could run a webserver on 25565 if I felt like it. But minecraft is the only major thing that uses 25565 by default
#86 [00:41] <xenico> it wont send me an email it says enter my username and it goes to the minecraft.net ome
#87 [00:41] <Pandaofchaotica> kk, I feel better about it now :)
#88 [00:42] <xenico> so how do i reset my password on my xenico minecraft account and link my new email to it
#89 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Only way to do that without knowing your password, is by emailing Mojang and proving you own the account
#90 [00:43] <xenico> i do own the account i sent them a email on the mojang suport site so all i do is wait
#91 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#92 [00:44] <xenico> ok thank you for your time
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#97 [00:46] <DrPastah> I have a weird bug
#98 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#99 [00:47] <DrPastah> if u push a button too many times for a torch it burns out, but when i place a new torch, it just burns out on first press
#100 [00:50] <DrPastah> how do i get it fixed?
#101 [00:50] <DrPastah> i have to move away from the chunk to get it working again
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#105 [01:44] <DrPastah> why do these damn torches keep burning out
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#110 [02:11] <zkxs> When torches fail me, I fall back to ghetto piston logic gates
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#128 [04:15] <Zixt> Mickster04: Was sleeping :p. It was working prior to updating to 1.2
#129 [04:15] <Zixt> I did Force Update and it still did not work
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#131 [04:16] <Zixt> It always works when there are less players online :/
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#137 [05:15] <panitaliemom> hey whats up with buying gift codes why cant i just buy one ? why do i need to sign up to moneybookers to buy one ? >:I
#138 [05:16] <rev-lemon> how where you trying to get it ?
#139 [05:16] <panitaliemom> www.minecraft.net
#140 [05:16] <rev-lemon> yea do you have a card you usually buy with it, say though paypal ?
#141 [05:17] <panitaliemom> yes but cant use the paypal opetion i live in sweden
#142 [05:17] <rev-lemon> hm,
#143 [05:17] <rev-lemon> then some other way , how would you do it, other wise ?
#144 [05:18] <panitaliemom> with visa but then i just get rederected to sign up to moneybookers
#145 [05:19] <rev-lemon> i dont know maybe try there help section on the website i think its soemthing ilke www.minecraft.net/support
#146 [05:19] <panitaliemom> allredy did noting to help me there
#147 [05:19] <rev-lemon> all im saying is that maybe they dont have that option up at this time
#148 [05:20] <panitaliemom> urghh -_-
#149 [05:20] <rev-lemon> we are only a comunity support channel, we arnt mojang
#150 [05:20] <panitaliemom> i know i know but i pretty iritetting
#151 [05:21] <rev-lemon> i understand,
#152 [05:21] <rev-lemon> your trying to buy it for a friend ?
#153 [05:21] <panitaliemom> well guys i have to wait then or someting
#154 [05:21] <rev-lemon> how did you end up getting yours ?
#155 [05:22] <panitaliemom> well i byed mine like a year ago and then they had the paypal opetion
#156 [05:22] <rev-lemon> oh, i see
#157 [05:22] <panitaliemom> and i really wanted to buy a gift code for my friend for is birth day
#158 [05:23] <rev-lemon> oh, well i think theres other options online that allow you to say make a ligit payment though the net useing like a payment card almost like a pre-paid card
#159 [05:23] <rev-lemon> just dont know if that will work say with paypal
#160 [05:24] <panitaliemom> i heard someting about they took away paypal becuse there whas so many frauds or someting ?
#161 [05:24] <rev-lemon> i dont know , im not one to follow twitter
#162 [05:24] <panitaliemom> ohh ok but thanks for the help gonna try to contact mojang and ask what to do
#163 [05:25] <rev-lemon> ok
#164 [05:25] <rev-lemon> good luck
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#166 [05:33] <SinZ> rev-lemon: wow this old machine is fast
#167 [05:33] <SinZ> <3
#168 [05:33] <rev-lemon> which one ?
#169 [05:33] <rev-lemon> the one you put your ram into ?
#170 [05:33] <SinZ> well, took out
#171 [05:34] <rev-lemon> yes?
#172 [05:35] <SinZ> 6gb ram, intel core 2 quad @ 2.4GHz with duel Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT's
#173 [05:35] <rev-lemon> oh, nice
#174 [05:36] <rev-lemon> ok, well that should be really running verry well,
#175 [05:36] <rev-lemon> if a new install that is ?
#176 [05:36] <SinZ> yeh
#177 [05:36] <rev-lemon> nice one,
#178 [05:36] <SinZ> new install of windows 7
#179 [05:36] <rev-lemon> i have just one card 9800 gt 1 gig ram < on 2.4 gig hertz quad core as well :P
#180 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/434710-why-can-t-i-use-paypal-to-buy-a-gift-code-
#181 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> "We recently removed the option to purchase a gift code with Paypal in response to a greatly increased number of fraudulent transactions. We are working with Paypal to find a long-term solution, but unfortunately do not have an estimate on when or if this payment option will return."
#182 [05:47] <rev-lemon> wow
#183 [05:47] <rev-lemon> ty for that GreyVulpine
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#202 [07:40] <raisin> why crashes my minecraft ?
#203 [07:40] <raisin> i installed a few mods and it crashed
#204 [07:41] <raisin> y?
#205 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> version? technique? conflicts?
#206 [07:42] <raisin> 1.2.3
#207 [07:42] <raisin> ram 3 GB
#208 [07:42] <raisin> ??
#209 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> Which of the mods caused the problem?
#210 [07:44] <raisin> i dont know
#211 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Go back to a working version of Minecraft then and find out.
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#225 [10:07] <Gurkenglas> Does stickypistonpushing a row of blocks onto a leaf block drop saplings?
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#229 [10:21] <Dave_Bugati> help!
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#235 [11:02] <Crit_> I believe this is a place for general minecraft questions ranging from simple mods to servers correct?
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#237 [11:05] <Boreeas> Crit_: We normally don't give mod or plugin help.
#238 [11:05] <Crit_> It's mainly server help, need to find an alternate way to start the server because it crashed
#239 [11:05] <Boreeas> You can of course always ask and see if someone helps you anyways
#240 [11:05] <Crit_> alright I will do that :D
#241 [11:05] <Boreeas> Crit_: Remote server or local?
#242 [11:06] <Crit_> hosted bukkit one
#243 [11:07] <Boreeas> And how is it crashed? Unresponsive minecraft server? Complete server crash (i.e. login doesn't work either)?
#244 [11:07] <Crit_> complete
#245 [11:07] <Crit_> it crashed mcmyadmin
#246 [11:07] <Crit_> That is my regular startup way but mcmyadmin has been having a lot of troubles lately, and the owner won't be back for a while
#247 [11:08] <Boreeas> Crit_: Do you have access to the server without mcmyadmin?
#248 [11:08] <Crit_> yes
#249 [11:08] <Crit_> I can view with filezilla
#250 [11:09] <Boreeas> Shell access maybe?
#251 [11:09] <Crit_> I'm not sure, I've never asked for it
#252 [11:09] <Crit_> If it runs off a username and password I know the info
#253 [11:09] <Boreeas> What OS do you use?
#254 [11:09] <Crit_> Mac
#255 [11:09] <Boreeas> Hmm, alright, open the terminal
#256 [11:10] <Crit_> alright it is open
#257 [11:10] <Boreeas> Type "rsh -l <username> <your server ip/host>"
#258 [11:10] <Crit_> I'm a new mac user btw, so bear with me if I get a little stupid xD
#259 [11:10] <Crit_> does port matter if its :25565?
#260 [11:11] <Boreeas> I have no experience with mac either, but fortunately it is similar to linux in some way
#261 [11:11] <Boreeas> 25565 is the server port
#262 [11:11] <Boreeas> You don't use that one
#263 [11:11] <Crit_> ok
#264 [11:11] <Boreeas> You want the shell port, which you should be able to omit
#265 [11:12] <Crit_> hmm what does omit mean?
#266 [11:12] <Boreeas> Not type it
#267 [11:12] <Crit_> and 1 more noob question, when using the terminal do I include the <>'s?
#268 [11:12] <Boreeas> Nope
#269 [11:13] <Crit_> ok i didn't think so
#270 [11:13] <Crit_> alright, so when I type that command in hit return?
#271 [11:14] <Boreeas> Yes
#272 [11:15] <Crit_> alright, I get a blank line after that, is it wanting a password?
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#274 [11:15] <Crit_> oh no nvm, I just got a connection refused
#275 [11:15] <Boreeas> hmm, so no shell access
#276 [11:15] <Crit_> The info may intact be different
#277 [11:15] <Crit_> in fact*
#278 [11:16] <Crit_> I have 1 more idea please hold
#279 [11:16] <Boreeas> <username> is the name used for the server account, not the your minecraft username
#280 [11:16] <Boreeas> What did you use for host?
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#282 [11:16] <Crit_> I'm not 100% for sure, I believe the owner of my server has his own hosting company
#283 [11:17] <Crit_> 0FxxHosting for something similiar
#284 [11:17] <Crit_> or*
#285 [11:19] <Boreeas> Try to get help in the mcmyadmin support channel or try to get in touch with your hoster's support. I'm afraid we can't help you here.
#286 [11:19] <Crit_> Ok thank you very much for your time though.
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#310 [12:17] <TSO> Trying to add server side mods to SMP server I took off minecraft.net. I tried youtube guides. google for ideas. Used 7zip, winzip, winrar. No success. help?
#311 [12:17] <Crit> First I must ask, do you have bukkit?
#312 [12:17] <TSO> No. I'm using minecraft.nets vanilla.
#313 [12:18] <Pepper> Download the jar, not the exe
#314 [12:18] <Crit> I was thinking, I thought you couldn't put mods on vanilla servers
#315 [12:19] <TSO> I've done it once before I'm sure. I'll try your idea. Perhaps I recalled incorrect
#316 [12:19] <Pepper> Crit: You have to download the jar, not the exe for vanilla
#317 [12:20] <Crit> ah
#318 [12:20] <TSO> Do I delete meta-inf for server?
#319 [12:20] <Pepper> Don't think so
#320 [12:21] <TSO> alright.... got jar and put in files. how do I execute?
#321 [12:22] <Crit> hmm I have a shell start.command you can use the coding
#322 [12:22] <Pepper> Right click - open with - java
#323 [12:24] <TSO> not exactly working.
#324 [12:24] <TSO> had a brief command window open and vanish
#325 [12:25] <Crit> that should have been correct them, it should have booted the console terminal I think
#326 [12:25] <Crit> then*
#327 [12:26] <TSO> I'm not seeing a process or anything. no Console.
#328 [12:26] <Crit> Hmm alright, I should probably quit interfering xD as Pepper is helping you
#329 [12:27] <Crit> quick question though are you on windows or mac?
#330 [12:27] <TSO> Windows.
#331 [12:27] <Crit> ok
#332 [12:27] <TSO> 7
#333 [12:27] <Crit> xD I recently got my first vanilla running but I did everything on mac
#334 [12:27] <TSO> Always gotta relearn this stuff when new mobs I like come out.
#335 [12:28] <TSO> mods*
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#337 [12:28] <TSO> Usually I manage fine on my own but setting up server side has been impossible thus far
#338 [12:28] <TSO> and without a server to test my client side basically pointless to work on client side
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#340 [12:30] <Crit> do you know how to make a bat file?
#341 [12:30] <Crit> because I'm not 100% for sure for windows
#342 [12:30] <TSO> notepad. text. save .bat
#343 [12:30] <Crit> alright
#344 [12:31] <Crit> start /max "minecraft_server" java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#345 [12:31] <TSO> I had one i quickly tested but it only flashed a console also
#346 [12:31] <Crit> put this info in to a notepad and save is as start.bat
#347 [12:31] <Crit> put it in your minecraft server folder and try to run it by double clicking
#348 [12:32] <TSO> 2 consoles flashed... lol
#349 [12:32] <Crit> they didn't stay up?
#350 [12:32] <TSO> nope
#351 [12:32] <Crit> thats really odd
#352 [12:33] <Crit> what the .bat does is open up a terminal, think its called CMD for you and a console as well
#353 [12:33] <TSO> Yea I can get the 2nd one to stop with pause|break but it doesn't show text. I hit entter and it flashes something and closes
#354 [12:33] <TSO> There is something insanely simple i'm missing here and it'll piss me off when I find out
#355 [12:33] <Crit> to show text with a console like that I believe you type /say msg
#356 [12:34] <Crit> the console auto registers everything typed in it as a command
#357 [12:34] <TSO> It's a console window but it's in CMD like you said.
#358 [12:34] <Crit> xD I know how you fill on that
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#360 [12:34] <Crit> Hmm Calinou
#361 [12:34] <Calinou> hi!
#362 [12:34] <Crit> do you know anything about vanilla servers?
#363 [12:34] <TSO> flashs by so fast idk if it's java having an issue or minecraft
#364 [12:35] <TSO> Just that i setup one easily in past...
#365 [12:35] <Crit> Hmm
#366 [12:35] <Crit> I know, I've done stuff like that breezed through it in 5 minutes the first time
#367 [12:35] <TSO> i just tossed files in like it was SSP... did some trial error that is required to get mods to work. then took off with GF in minecraft
#368 [12:35] <Crit> and when I go to do it again I have every problem in the world
#369 [12:35] <Crit> Hmm
#370 [12:36] <Crit> did your server start up correctly before adding the mods
#371 [12:36] <TSO> yea... frustrating to come back and be stuck at square one like some ameture
#372 [12:36] <Calinou> yes
#373 [12:36] <Calinou> what mods are you using?
#374 [12:36] <Crit> What all did you add?
#375 [12:36] <Crit> oh lmao I though two said yes
#376 [12:36] <Calinou> are you installing them correclty, both on the client and server?
#377 [12:36] <Crit> tso*
#378 [12:36] <TSO> Your a lil late.
#379 [12:37] <TSO> I'm just trying to start the server with the mods inside
#380 [12:37] <Calinou> what mods?
#381 [12:37] <TSO> Vanilla
#382 [12:37] <Calinou> ...you said this: "I'm just trying to start the server with the mods inside"
#383 [12:38] <TSO> You really need specifics?... Red power, Equalivant Exchange, Forge, ModloaderMP, Player API I think is all server side
#384 [12:38] <TSO> I meant vanilla as in minecraft_server not bukkit
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#387 [12:39] <TSO> I got the jar as someone suggested cuz i couldn't stick the files in the .exe which I thought I had in past.
#388 [12:39] <Crit> Yes specifics can help track down an error
#389 [12:39] <TSO> and the files are in the jar. I can't start it now
#390 [12:39] <Calinou> clients also require the mods to be installed :P
#391 [12:39] <Calinou> removed meta-inf?
#392 [12:39] <TSO> Yes well if i had an error that would make sense. I don't even have a console
#393 [12:39] <Calinou> to start a .jar, you need to use command-line
#394 [12:39] <TSO> no but i'll try
#395 [12:40] <Calinou> windows I guess :P go in the control panel, "folder options" or such
#396 [12:40] <Calinou> there should be a tab with a list of checkboxes, uncheck "Hide known extension types"
#397 [12:40] <TSO> nope meta-inf didn't do it. lets start with square one. Where do I get the jar I put mods into?
#398 [12:40] <Calinou> minecraft_server.jar? you already downloaded it, no?
#399 [12:40] <Calinou> once you have the server jar, you need to RUN it
#400 [12:41] <TSO> alright how would it normally be ran
#401 [12:41] <Calinou> command-line.
#402 [12:41] <TSO> so start>run> command-line?
#403 [12:41] <Calinou> the stuff I said 4-5 lines above was to not hide extension files, thus letting you create a .bat file
#404 [12:42] <Calinou> .bat file = command line "shortcut", can't explain in another way
#405 [12:42] <Calinou> if you just do windows+R then "cmd", you will have to manually "cd" into the server folder
#406 [12:42] <Calinou> and that, every time you want to start the server.
#407 [12:42] <TSO> ok. I see where your going. what i'm trying to do is clear up the conversation as your more confusing then helping atm.
#408 [12:43] <Morrolan> You could also a shift-rightclick -> "open command window here" inside the server folder, for completness' sake. ^^
#409 [12:43] <TSO> I got a clean jar and a Start.bat with "start /max "minecraft_server" java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#410 [12:44] <Calinou> Morrolan: cool, didn't knew :P
#411 [12:44] <Calinou> hmm, TSO
#412 [12:44] <Morrolan> Shift-rightclick has some useful additional features, only found out about it recently. ^^
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#414 [12:45] <Calinou> your bat should be more like this:
#415 [12:45] <Calinou> Morrolan: only feature I've seen is the commandline thingy
#416 [12:45] <Calinou> TSO: http://pastebin.com/G3NH2vMd
#417 [12:45] <Morrolan> There's "pin to taskbar" and "copy as path" if used on a file for example.
#418 [12:46] <Morrolan> The later's pretty nice.
#419 [12:46] <TSO> Funny as I did this with GUI version of minecraft before and never had to screw around with bats.... I'm just taken ur advice cuz I can't edit the .exe my self for some reason and I'm stumped in all my attempts.
#420 [12:46] <TSO> I'll try your bat
#421 [12:47] <TSO> Ok awesome I got a console finally.
#422 [12:47] <Calinou> GUIs for servers suck :P
#423 [12:47] <Calinou> .exe is binary, it just starts java
#424 [12:47] <TSO> what starts up that i can throw mod files into works. I'll try and mod this now.
#425 [12:47] <Calinou> it's actually a noob-proof so people just don't go saying "how i start it???"
#426 [12:47] <Calinou> yeah, into the jar... :P
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#431 [12:51] <sound> trying to buy minecraft. Used Amex and Visa and got message saying purchase failed.
#432 [12:51] <Calinou> ??< index
#433 [12:52] <TSO> Do I delete meta-inf?
#434 [12:52] <Crit> just straight delete xD
#435 [12:52] <Calinou> ??> sound payment
#436 [12:52] <VoxelHead> sound: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#437 [12:52] <VoxelHead> sound: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#438 [12:52] <sound> Called credit card company and they have no record of charge
#439 [12:52] <Calinou> you'll have to use paypal/moneybookers to buy minecraft
#440 [12:52] * Calinou has heard direct buying causes problems, but Calinou thinks it exists.
#440 [12:53] <sound> so the process they direct you through on the minecraft website is not valid?
#441 [12:53] <TSO> woo invalid or corrupt. I'm not deleting that again.
#442 [12:54] <xales> sound: Try using Paypal.
#443 [12:54] <xales> I don't like them personally, but they are better than the alternatives Mojang offers. >.>
#444 [12:54] <Calinou> TSO: you did it wrong, or the mods aren't update/not compatible
#445 [12:54] <TSO> I didn't even put in mods.
#446 [12:54] <TSO> i just deleted and ran to test
#447 [12:54] <Morrolan> xales - Is PayPal back?
#448 [12:54] <Calinou> deleted what?
#449 [12:54] <xales> Morrolan: I believe so, yes
#450 [12:54] <TSO> meta-inf
#451 [12:54] <Morrolan> xales - Ah, was about time. :)
#452 [12:55] <Morrolan> Any statement why it disappeared in the first place?
#453 [12:55] <sound> okay. thanks
#454 [12:55] <Morrolan> Also, negative, PayPal doesn't show up in the Payment options :S
#455 [12:55] <clarjon1> wut
#456 [12:57] <Boreeas> Seconded
#457 [12:57] <TSO> only delete meta-inf for client side -.-... modloaderMP went into server fine
#458 [12:58] <TSO> forge however doesn't. frick this is gonna take a while.
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#460 [13:04] <TSO> Woo ok modding alright. Solong.
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#480 [13:47] <hackworth> So, I just upgraded from 1.1 to 1.2.3 and I've been flying around for about 15 minutes now and everything is ocean. the only ground is extremely sparse 'islands' that just break the water level... any ideas on this? is it possibly a conversion error or I am just getting incredibly unlucky with my chunk generation
#481 [13:55] <Crit> Your getting an unlucky generation
#482 [13:55] <hackworth> for thousands of blocks.. perhaps my karma is low :|
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#488 [14:19] <Morrolan> ;addalt Mr_okushama Mr_oku|offline
#489 [14:19] <WugBot> Registered Mr_oku|offline as alt nick of Mr_okushama.
#490 [14:19] * Morrolan pats WugBot
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#492 [14:26] <Dave_Bugati> help.....
#493 [14:26] <Morrolan> Mhm?
#494 [14:26] <Dave_Bugati> i am not prem i donated tho..
#495 [14:27] <Dave_Bugati> i payd yesterday.......
#496 [14:27] <Dave_Bugati> i have order number but didnt get any thing on my email..
#497 [14:27] <Morrolan> Assuming your payment did not get blocked by your credit card provider due to it being an international transfer - it can take several days to get processed.
#498 [14:28] <Dave_Bugati> i took a day and the cash was taken from credit card..
#499 [14:28] <Morrolan> Then it did not get blocked, which is a good thing already.
#500 [14:28] <Dave_Bugati> its a prepaid card and i live in the UAE there are alot of problems with paypal here..
#501 [14:28] <Morrolan> So now you'll just have to wait a day, two or three until your payment got processed.
#502 [14:29] <Dave_Bugati> ugh wht if it didnt?
#503 [14:29] <Morrolan> Eh?
#504 [14:29] <Dave_Bugati> what if am not premium..
#505 [14:29] <Dave_Bugati> in those 3-4 days
#506 [14:30] <Morrolan> Why worry about this now? Chances that this happens are _very_ slim.
#507 [14:30] <Morrolan> IF it were to happen you could just file a chargeback with your credit card provider.
#508 [14:30] <Morrolan> I've never seen someone's card getting charged and he not getting premium though.
#509 [14:30] <Dave_Bugati> but i need the account lol..
#510 [14:30] <Morrolan> Nothing you can do but wait for it.
#511 [14:30] <Dave_Bugati> i have order no can i put it here?
#512 [14:31] <Morrolan> No, we aren't affiliated with Mojang.
#513 [14:31] <Dave_Bugati> oo ok
#514 [14:31] <Dave_Bugati> ugh thanks any ways then sorry because i wasted your time ;)
#515 [14:31] <Morrolan> No worries.
#516 [14:31] <Dave_Bugati> thanks ,bye
#517 [14:31] <Dave_Bugati> thanks ,bye
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#519 [14:32] <Morrolan> Why do I get the feeling that he's now going to spam support tickets. ;)
#520 [14:32] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#520 [14:33] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#520 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> [20:09] * VoxelHead is away: intimate time with my kiwi
#521 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> lold
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#523 [14:34] <Morrolan> mhm
#524 [14:34] <Morrolan> Check ##voxelhead though, assuming you're in there. ^^
#525 [14:34] <Morrolan> Ah, you're not. What I meant was: "VoxelHead is away: intimate time with my %var{fruits}"
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#527 [14:39] <Reep> Need a short help. Want to play in multiplyer with a friend, but he can't reach my server
#528 [14:41] <Reep> Have downloaded the file installed it, and opened the firewall, but nothing
#529 [14:41] <Reep> Have downloaded the file installed it, and opened the firewall, but nothing
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#531 [14:42] <Morrolan> Any security software which might block the server?
#532 [14:42] <barnseenio> reep get him to telnet to ip/port
#533 [14:42] <barnseenio> prove he can open a shell to it
#534 [14:42] <Reep> only my antivirus
#535 [14:43] <Pepper> Port forwards, too
#536 [14:43] <Crit> If it's just you and your friend use hamachi
#537 [14:43] <Morrolan> Reep - Make sure that Antivirus' software firewall is allowing Minecraft through then.
#538 [14:43] <Reep> on my router I opened the port, gave him my ip but it put's Can't reach server
#539 [14:43] <Morrolan> Reep - You gave him your external IP, correct?
#540 [14:44] <Reep> yep, I got it on IP chicken
#541 [14:45] <barnseenio> telnet yourip yourmcport
#542 [14:45] <Reep> what's telnet?
#543 [14:45] <barnseenio> oh
#544 [14:45] <barnseenio> nm
#545 [14:45] <Morrolan> barnseenio - telnet isn't enabled on Windows by default, gotta enable the service manually first methinks.
#546 [14:45] <barnseenio> probly
#547 [14:46] <Reep> hmm, where do I find that?
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#549 [14:46] <barnseenio> well, it would be him not you
#550 [14:46] <barnseenio> forget it
#551 [14:46] <barnseenio> its probly too advanced
#552 [14:47] <Morrolan> Reep - Assuming it is not something on your friend's site, which is unlikely, either your port forwarding isn't set up properly or your security software is blocking it.
#553 [14:47] <Morrolan> Make sure that the port forwarding rule is still pointing to the correct internal IP, i.e. that the internal IP of your PC did not change.
#554 [14:47] <Morrolan> And, for a test, disable your security software.
#555 [14:47] <barnseenio> http://usertools.plus.net/tutorials/id/21
#556 [14:47] <barnseenio> Tutorials & FAQs: Servers: Telnet as a Diagnostic Aid
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#558 [14:48] <YR90> A bit of help needed.
#559 [14:48] * Morrolan hands YR90 a 1
#559 [14:48] <Reep> I check sec
#560 [14:48] <Morrolan> YR90 - Seriously though, go ahead and ask your question. ;D
#561 [14:48] <YR90> Playing 1.2.3 and I'm having massive problems with chunk updates
#562 [14:49] <YR90> Like, 200+ chunk updates constantly.
#563 [14:49] <Morrolan> Does this happen with any world (i.e. with a new one as well), or only with a specific one?
#564 [14:49] <YR90> Happened with both my last world and this new genned one. And sorry, it's still 1.1. Hm.
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#566 [14:52] <YR90> Hm. Might as well nuke this install and get 1.2.3.
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#568 [14:53] <Pepper> I had several time where chunk updates were synced with FPS in 1.1
#569 [14:53] <Pepper> Haven't noticed it in 1.2
#570 [14:54] <YR90> It seemed to be worse when pointing in a certain direction. Dunno if it's related, but my world also had above ground chasms.
#571 [14:55] <Morrolan> I guess Minecraft will just do one chunk update per frame, which might lead to them being "synced".
#572 [14:55] <YR90> Yeah, but it was dropping me from 200+ fps down to like 10.
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#577 [15:08] <YR90> Woah.
#578 [15:09] <YR90> Updated to 1.2.3, and put minecraft in a ramdisk and it now runs at 300fps.
#579 [15:09] <YR90> Updated to 1.2.3, and put minecraft in a ramdisk and it now runs at 300fps.
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#582 [15:19] <barnseenio> noob question. what is 'the end'
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#584 [15:20] <Morrolan> barnseenio - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/The_End
#585 [15:20] <barnseenio> and is it accessible in server games?
#586 [15:21] <Morrolan> It is.
#587 [15:21] <Morrolan> After the dragon has been defeated you will have to reset The End though, to be able to fight it again.
#588 [15:22] <barnseenio> so are those instructions in the wiki under title Travelling to the End relevant to server game?
#589 [15:22] <barnseenio> oh sorry
#590 [15:22] <barnseenio> im reading
#591 [15:22] <Morrolan> It works exactly the same, yea. :)
#592 [15:22] <Morrolan> Find a stronghold, locate the portal, put in the eyes and off you go. :)
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#594 [15:23] <barnseenio> right
#595 [15:23] <barnseenio> and 'find a stronghold' ?
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#597 [15:23] <Morrolan> Easiest way is to throw up endereyes and follow them.
#598 [15:24] <barnseenio> right
#599 [15:24] <barnseenio> that works for server?
#600 [15:24] <Morrolan> Yes it does.
#601 [15:28] <barnseenio> Morrolan: thanks, im instructing my 9yr old son to follow your advice!
#602 [15:28] <barnseenio> he's badgering me like hell
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#604 [15:28] <Morrolan> barnseenio - Hehe. :)
#605 [15:29] <barnseenio> ok he has found something with ender eyes
#606 [15:29] <barnseenio> they are now going downwards
#607 [15:29] <barnseenio> so the eyes point to a portal
#608 [15:29] <barnseenio> he goes through that
#609 [15:29] <barnseenio> ?
#610 [15:30] <Morrolan> When you throw one in the air it'll flow into a certain direction, and then drop down.
#611 [15:30] <barnseenio> yeah he's followed that
#612 [15:30] <barnseenio> hes staring a portal looking thing with eyes around it
#613 [15:30] <Morrolan> Follow it into the direction it goes, throwing up new ender eyes whenever the previous one dropped down. As soon as they stay in the air instad of moving into a direction you are above a stronghold.
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#615 [15:30] <Morrolan> Oh.
#616 [15:30] <Morrolan> So he's there already it seems.
#617 [15:30] <barnseenio> its greeny blue
#618 [15:31] <barnseenio> does he enter it?
#619 [15:31] <Morrolan> Sounds right. THen right-click with these ender eyes on these blocks until the holes in them are filled up.
#620 [15:31] <Morrolan> As soon as all of them are filled up he can enter it, yes.
#621 [15:31] <barnseenio> k done that
#622 [15:31] <barnseenio> k
#623 [15:32] <barnseenio> ok he walked into it and got error 'you travelled too fast'
#624 [15:32] <cybershadow> has anyone ever gotten this error ? failed to save: # of remaining buffer elements is xxxxxx must be yyyyyyy
#625 [15:32] <barnseenio> and it disconnected him from server
#626 [15:32] <Morrolan> barnseenio - Just reconnect, he _should_ be in the end now.
#627 [15:32] <barnseenio> 'you moved too quickly - hacking'
#628 [15:32] <Morrolan> Though it shouldn'0t have disconnected him in the first place.
#629 [15:33] <barnseenio> it says whenever he enters it
#630 [15:33] <Morrolan> Eh, strange that this happens.
#631 [15:33] <Morrolan> Are you hosting the server yourself?
#632 [15:33] <barnseenio> yes
#633 [15:33] <barnseenio> it flashes 'redrawing terrain'
#634 [15:33] <barnseenio> then disc
#635 [15:33] <Morrolan> Then you should be able to disable that check by setting "allow-flight" in server.properties to true.
#636 [15:33] <Morrolan> That is, shut down the server, set allow-flight to true and restart the server.
#637 [15:34] <barnseenio> k thanks
#638 [15:34] <Morrolan> I am not sure whether this disables that check, but it might.
#639 [15:34] <barnseenio> ok set to true and retrying
#640 [15:34] <barnseenio> he says same thing
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#642 [15:35] <Morrolan> Argh.
#643 [15:35] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - You there?
#644 [15:35] <barnseenio> although it was previously set to false
#645 [15:35] <barnseenio> sorry to be a pain :/
#646 [15:35] <barnseenio> and i appreciate your help very much
#647 [15:35] <Morrolan> Oh, no problem. I'm just kinda clueless why this happens, but maybe one of the others has an idea.
#648 [15:36] <Morrolan> Wug - Happen to have any idea how to prevent the server dropping you due to "moving too fast" upon entering a portal to the End?
#649 [15:36] <barnseenio> its 1.2.3 i think (well, whatevers latest
#650 [15:36] <barnseenio> )
#651 [15:36] <Morrolan> I remember that happening, but the last time I've seen that it was ages ago.
#652 [15:37] <barnseenio> and im running bukkit with just commandbook and worldedit
#653 [15:37] <Morrolan> Yea, neither of these should interfere.
#654 [15:38] <barnseenio> Install the plugin "dontKickMe" that should fix it.
#655 [15:38] <barnseenio> google fu
#656 [15:38] <barnseenio> smells a bit though
#657 [15:39] <Morrolan> NoSpeedKick: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/nospeedkick/ dontkickme: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/inactive-mech-fix-dontkickme-v0-1-prevents-kicking-for-reason-moved-too-quickly-766.17326/page-2
#658 [15:39] <Morrolan> Both of them seem to be outdated, but if you're lucky one of them still works.
#659 [15:39] <barnseenio> giving a whirle
#660 [15:39] <barnseenio> -e
#661 [15:41] <barnseenio> lol
#662 [15:41] <barnseenio> explodes on startup
#663 [15:41] <Morrolan> Heh, then try "NoSpeedKick" I guess.
#664 [15:41] <barnseenio> aah that was that one
#665 [15:41] <barnseenio> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/nospeedkick/
#666 [15:41] <barnseenio> that one explodes
#667 [15:41] <Morrolan> Ah.
#668 [15:41] <barnseenio> other i got a 404
#669 [15:42] <Morrolan> Eh, indeed.
#670 [15:42] <barnseenio> lulz
#671 [15:42] <Morrolan> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-fix-nospeedkick-v0-3-prevent-kicking-for-moving-too-fast-1317.29513/
#672 [15:42] <barnseenio> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/nospeedkick/
#673 [15:42] <barnseenio> oops
#674 [15:42] <barnseenio> To everyone asking for 1.2.3 update: Use the update that TheEliteFour awesomely created here. I plan to make an "official" update at some point, but until I do, TheEliteFour's version looks great.
#675 [15:42] <Morrolan> Eh, disregard
#676 [15:43] <Morrolan> Oh, indeed.
#677 [15:43] <Morrolan> Then give the one linked in that comment a shot. :)
#678 [15:44] <barnseenio> oo
#679 [15:44] <barnseenio> no explodey
#680 [15:44] <clarjon1> shouldn't this be done in #bukkit? :P
#681 [15:44] <barnseenio> sorry :(
#682 [15:44] <Morrolan> Eh, #bukkit is somewhat inactive.
#683 [15:44] <barnseenio> it didnt start out a bukkit problem :/
#684 [15:44] <barnseenio> lol
#685 [15:45] <barnseenio> made no difference
#686 [15:45] <barnseenio> ie still gets that
#687 [15:45] <barnseenio> oh well, i'll idle and tell him to get to bed maybe someone else has ideas later
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#689 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Stop server, go into server.properties, change allow-flight from false to true?
#690 [15:47] <barnseenio> yeah did
#691 [15:48] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Yea, seemingly this only affects flight and not the fast-moving check. :/
#692 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Huh, okay.
#693 [15:48] <Morrolan> Just strikes me as odd that this bug still persists. Only explanation I could htink of is the computer being completely overloaded.
#694 [15:48] <Morrolan> think*
#695 [15:48] <barnseenio> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y1WwX81v
#696 [15:48] <barnseenio> thats the props file and the server startup
#697 [15:49] <barnseenio> its a fairly ok spec server
#698 [15:49] <Morrolan> You're missing Vault btw. http://ci.milkbowl.net/job/Vault/
#699 [15:49] <Morrolan> Respectively http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/vault/ if you want a stable version.
#700 [15:50] <Morrolan> One thing you could try is disable all the plugins, to see whether it's a plugin interfering or simply Craftbukkit itself.
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#702 [15:51] <barnseenio> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Tn32C20d
#703 [15:51] <barnseenio> thats launch with herchat removes and vault in
#704 [15:52] <Morrolan> Oh, if you're not going to use Herochat then you won't need Vault either, but if you do want to use HErochat you'll need Vault.
#705 [15:52] <barnseenio> aah lol
#706 [15:52] <barnseenio> sorry, was just trying to clear up warnings
#707 [15:52] <Morrolan> Heh, that never hurts indeed. :)
#708 [15:52] <barnseenio> i'll try minecraft with no bukkit at all
#709 [15:52] <barnseenio> woah
#710 [15:52] <barnseenio> he just got in
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#712 [15:53] <barnseenio> ah false alarm
#713 [15:53] <barnseenio> he's trying it on single player
#714 [15:53] <barnseenio> ok i'll try with just mc
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#716 [15:59] <barnseenio> same with no plugins loaded
#717 [15:59] <barnseenio> same with no plugins loaded
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#719 [16:12] <barnseenio> ok quite annoying
#720 [16:12] <barnseenio> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2xnGAHnS
#721 [16:13] <barnseenio> thats just minecraft, no bukkit
#722 [16:13] <barnseenio> with allow-flight=true
#723 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Nuke (or move) his player.dat file from /world/players/, have him try it again?
#724 [16:14] <barnseenio> k
#725 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> It'll reset his player position and inventory
#726 [16:15] <barnseenio> k
#727 [16:17] <barnseenio> interesting
#728 [16:17] <barnseenio> this time looks like that nokick plugin tried to kick in
#729 [16:17] <barnseenio> and exploded
#730 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> He's still getting a "moved too fast" kick?
#731 [16:19] <barnseenio> yes
#732 [16:19] <barnseenio> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WrzNY6Ca
#733 [16:19] <barnseenio> i moved back to loading b ukkit (as mc on its own made no diff)
#734 [16:19] <barnseenio> looks like that nokick script is perhaps a work in progress :/
#735 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Sounds more and more like network latency causing a false positive
#736 [16:19] <barnseenio> hmm
#737 [16:19] <barnseenio> we're all on lan though
#738 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> wired?
#739 [16:20] <barnseenio> yes
#740 [16:20] <barnseenio> i have my feet on the server :)
#741 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Any computers running a firewall that may be filtering connections?
#742 [16:20] <barnseenio> no, i disable all
#743 [16:20] <barnseenio> leave that to the router
#744 [16:21] <barnseenio> Yeah the same problem happened with me and we figured out that you can't go in the end in creative mode.
#745 [16:21] <barnseenio> google fu
#746 [16:21] <barnseenio> ok hes in survival and it works
#747 [16:21] <barnseenio> seems the answer
#748 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Huh, interesting.
#749 [16:21] <barnseenio> perhaps you know why, i have no idea
#750 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> I have no clue. Sorry.
#751 [16:22] <barnseenio> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/977529-the-end-moved-too-quickly-issue/
#752 [16:22] <barnseenio> foundit on there
#753 [16:22] <barnseenio> ok well, thanks for your patience
#754 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks for letting us know
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#756 [16:23] <Morrolan> Heh, glad to hear that it works now.
#757 [16:23] <Morrolan> Whatever the reason be.
#758 [16:24] <barnseenio> the things you do for your kids!
#759 [16:24] <Morrolan> Mhm.
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#769 [17:34] <sc1020> Keep getting this repeating error if I try and use MC Patcher on my Mac...
#770 [17:34] <sc1020> 1286 invalid framebuffer operation
#771 [17:36] <sc1020> Are there only bots on?
#772 [17:36] <xales> Are there any actual problems caused by the error?
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#774 [17:37] <sc1020> Yes… I get a black screen when using the test minecraft button
#775 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> How did you install MCpatcher. Where did you get MC patcher from?
#776 [17:39] <sc1020> minecraftforum.net
#777 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a link to the post where you got it from?
#778 [17:39] <sc1020> Sure, just a sec
#779 [17:40] <sc1020> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-11-123update-35-mcpatcher-hd-fix-234-01/
#780 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Are you using that exact version of MCpatcher, or an older version?
#781 [17:43] <sc1020> Yep, the exact same
#782 [17:43] <sc1020> MCPatcher 2.3.4_01
#783 [17:45] <sc1020> if it helps i can get the whole log but it's pretty long
#784 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. I'd do a force update through the launcher. Redownload/reinstall mcpatcher. Also, make sure you're using the latest version of the HD texture pack (if you're using one)
#785 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Quite often, the HD texture pack can cause problems if it hasn't been updated
#786 [17:47] <sc1020> Is the latest version 1.2?
#787 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Of minecraft? It's 1.2.3, yes
#788 [17:47] <sc1020> I was talking about the HD texture pack.
#789 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
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#791 [17:48] <sc1020> Is the next HD texture pack version 1.2?
#792 [17:49] <sc1020> latest*
#793 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> I can't give you an answer to that, since HD texture packs are made by the community.
#794 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> There are many HD texture packs. Each made by a member of the community that may or may not keep it up to date.
#795 [17:52] <sc1020> Oh, I thought you were talking about HD Textures which comes with MCPatcher. Right now I can't even launch minecraft using the test minecraft button on MCPatcher and I haven't even patched my minecraft.jar yet.
#796 [17:52] <sc1020> And I redownloaded everything like you said.
#797 [17:52] <sc1020> Still that same error code which repeats several times.
#798 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any HD texture packs in the /texturepacks/ folder, or any mods installed righ tnow?
#799 [17:53] <sc1020> Not to my knowledge…
#800 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#801 [17:54] <sc1020> Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3
#802 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you press the command+shift+g keys to bring up the Go To Folder prompt. There, type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#803 [17:55] <sc1020> Already there
#804 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> When you're in the minecraft folder, remove everything but the saves folder. Relaunch minecraft. It'll redownload all the files when you log in again
#805 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Afterwards, try MCPatcher.
#806 [17:56] <sc1020> It;s alright to backup some files, right?
#807 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#809 [17:59] <sc1020> Same exact outcome
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#811 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> You're not leaving anything in the texturepacks or mods folder, right?
#812 [18:01] <sc1020> I moved those folders out.
#813 [18:02] <sc1020> Same error code and everything.
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#815 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> I'm not quite sure then
#816 [18:03] <sc1020> Ya, I've seen a couple of other people with the same error, no one seems to have a clue what it even is.
#817 [18:04] <arubian> Hi when i open minecraft i get an error Launch4j
#818 [18:04] <sc1020> Would it help if I put the log on here?
#819 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> sc1020 - Pastebin.com it?
#820 [18:04] <arubian> then a whole thing then on the end the system cannot find path
#821 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> arubian - Give us the full error please
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#823 [18:06] <arubian> kk
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#825 [18:08] <arubian> http://gyazo.com/44adebbb49993e73bd0a5b9dbf6e4aa3
#826 [18:09] <arubian> and yes i have java 6 i think with the 31 update
#827 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah, corrupt java. Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#828 [18:09] <arubian> all ready did
#829 [18:09] <arubian> is it not something with the path?
#830 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Nope, it's a corrupt install of java
#831 [18:10] <arubian> because i can play minecraft via the website
#832 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> I understand that. My answer to that is not going to change. I've seen that error before, and it's caused by a corrupt install of java
#833 [18:12] <arubian> ok then i will go again and reinstall java ^)^
#834 [18:12] <arubian> ^_^
#835 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to uninstall any older versions of java first.
#836 [18:17] <sc1020> Alright I got it onto pastebin
#837 [18:17] <sc1020> http://pastebin.com/4Ar6i98H
#838 [18:19] <arubian> some how i had/have java7 idk how but some how it got delted but not in the uninstall list
#839 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> sc1020 - Redownload MCpatcher. Might have been fixed
#840 [18:21] <arubian> when i try to uninstall i get thsi http://gyazo.com/ff959ad27dc7a52b9e8a3cb6984029a0
#841 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> ;search 1723
#842 [18:21] <WugBot> Matches for "1723": error/1723
#843 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> ;error/1723
#844 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> :error/1723
#845 [18:21] <WugBot> error/1723: If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.
#846 [18:21] <WugBot> error/1723: You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#847 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> arubian ^
#848 [18:21] <sc1020> GreyVulpine - I have at least three times.
#849 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> sc1020 - There's a couple posts in the mcpatcher about this very issue on macosx. Solution was to redownload it, since it was fixed
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#851 [18:23] <sc1020> GreyVulpine - Could you send me the link?
#852 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-11-123update-35-mcpatcher-hd-fix-234-01/page__view__findpost__p__13298911
#853 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Bah, sorry, gotta take off here.
#854 [18:27] <sc1020> It's good
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#856 [18:32] <NinjaKirby> Does anyone elses client, in a paused (ESC) state, build up memory and dump it repeatedly? (With F3 active to monitor)
#857 [18:33] <NinjaKirby> Rolling from about 60Mb to 200Mb over and over, wondering if it's related to my stuttering problem
#858 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> In fact, I like how it says that and my Memory Consumption meter isn't flickering a pixel
#859 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> Gotta be kidding me it's raeping my HDD doing that
#860 [18:44] <Scott> it's normal
#861 [18:44] <Scott> the game is still active
#862 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> Really? It takes a round of about 4 seconds for it to collect this memory and dump it, over and over
#863 [18:44] <Scott> Yes
#864 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> Huh, well at least I know not to point fingers at that
#865 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> Thanks :3
#866 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> You know how sometimes really silly things hammer your FPS in games? Like having MSN Client window restored and visible on another monitor - the Flash Advert and graphical nuances can annhialate your FPS.
#867 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> Or if a stupid Systray popup appears, "You have updates", and you hit like 5fps, ridiculous
#868 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> Wonder if that's what is happening here.
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#870 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> Oh wow, I can clearly see Java utilising two Cores under one Process, intredasting
#871 [18:53] <xales> Multiple threads.
#872 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> Processor Explorer the break down?
#873 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> lol, *View the break down
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#876 [19:06] <Antiquated> Hello all, I have a question about rails, could anyone help me out?
#877 [19:07] <Antiquated> My question is, is there any way to make a piston push a rail or was that ability taken out?
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#881 [19:11] <wessel> I'm trying to find blaze rods, but I spawn in a nether without any castles, is there a way to spawn in a different nether? (e.g. by relocate portal)
#882 [19:15] <TheNytangel> Yes
#883 [19:18] <wessel> TheNytangel: I relocated ported but still spawn at same place
#884 [19:18] <wessel> How far needs this relocation be?
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#886 [19:19] <zkxs> over 1024 blocks
#887 [19:19] <Antiquated> Nevermind I figured it out.
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#889 [19:34] <wessel> I'm playing single player, maybe I should manually delete some files to spawn in another nether?
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#900 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> The stuttering I had earlier, I think it's the Jungle Biomes O_o
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#908 [21:19] <buz_mihai> hy i migrate my minecraft account to mojang account i whant to know how i can change my skin? on minecraft.net i can't login anymore :(
#909 [21:20] <TheNoodle> login using your email address instead
#910 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to log in with your email address as your username?
#911 [21:20] <TheNoodle> :3
#912 [21:22] <buz_mihai> if i try whith email i receive this mesage "Oops, unknown username or password. "
#913 [21:23] <buz_mihai> in game the username and the password work
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#916 [21:47] <Spexor> aaaaanyone about able to help?
#917 [21:48] <Pepper> Ask away
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#919 [21:51] <Spexor> oh right
#920 [21:52] <Spexor> all i'm trying to do is install build craft
#921 [21:52] <Spexor> no other mods
#922 [21:52] <Spexor> i've tried putting everything where it needs to be
#923 [21:52] <Spexor> but minecraft just crashes
#924 [21:52] <Spexor> and when i run the crash report nothing goes wrong
#925 [21:52] <Spexor> so i can't get the crash report
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#927 [21:52] <Pepper> Oh? You've tried mcerror?
#928 [21:52] <Spexor> i have no idea what that is
#929 [21:53] <Pepper> https://github.com/downloads/medsouz/MinecraftError/MCErrorv24.jar Try running this
#930 [21:54] <Spexor> gotcha. one sec
#931 [21:54] <Spexor> do i have to put it anywhere in particular?
#932 [21:54] <Pepper> Nope
#933 [21:55] <Spexor> hmm
#934 [21:57] <Spexor> well. i did what it said
#935 [21:57] <Spexor> i ran it
#936 [21:57] <Spexor> and it gave me a "debugging" file
#937 [21:57] <Spexor> and all it says when i open it in notepad is "mode started"
#938 [21:57] <Pepper> Hmm... it should have posted output into the window
#939 [21:58] <Spexor> i ran it and it says "press any key to continue". so i did and it just closes
#940 [21:59] <Pepper> o.O
#941 [21:59] <Pepper> You ran it with java, right?
#942 [21:59] <Spexor> iiiii don't know how to do that
#943 [22:00] <Spexor> oh
#944 [22:00] <Spexor> hmm
#945 [22:00] <Spexor> one sec
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#947 [22:00] <Pepper> Spexor: http://i.imgur.com/ESMBt.png usually it's default
#948 [22:01] <Spexor> i figured it out.
#949 [22:01] <Pepper> Ok, good
#950 [22:01] <Spexor> well. the not running part
#951 [22:02] <Spexor> ok it still closes the mcerror.bat when minecraft errors
#952 [22:02] <Spexor> but i took a screen shot
#953 [22:03] <Spexor> it fails to load builders, energy, factory, class
#954 [22:03] <Pepper> Show me the screenshot?
#955 [22:04] <Spexor> sure. just let me black out the naked ladies
#956 [22:04] <Pepper> Heh
#957 [22:05] <Spexor> http://pics.shorty.org/files/195/minecraft%20error.jpg
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#959 [22:05] <Spexor> did i just get scolded?
#960 [22:06] <Pepper> Hmmm
#961 [22:06] <Pepper> You're sure you have the right versions?
#962 [22:06] <Spexor> i'm starting to think i don't
#963 [22:06] <Spexor> i got them right off the site
#964 [22:06] <Spexor> i'll try it again
#965 [22:07] <clarjon1> what site
#966 [22:07] <Spexor> i got versions 2.2.12
#967 [22:07] <Spexor> hmm
#968 [22:07] <Spexor> apparently that's wrong! now that i am at the site everything is listed as 2.2.13
#969 [22:08] <Pepper> Aha :D
#970 [22:08] <Spexor> i've been close to putting my fist through my laptop for the past 3 hours
#971 [22:08] <Pepper> Ouch :o
#972 [22:13] <Spexor> oh my god so many things to play with! thank you so much
#973 [22:14] <Pepper> No problem :)
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#975 [22:37] <DrStarryguy> Hello?
#976 [22:37] <DrStarryguy> Ok So... My question is can you change your minecraft playername on the website?
#977 [22:38] <TheNytangel> No
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#980 [22:41] <M1n3cr4ftr> hey, i was told to update my drivers or something to fix a bug im having...is there anything i need to do before i update them? like remove old ones, idk how this works at all
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#982 [22:45] <M1n3cr4ftr> TY FOR THE HELP BYBY
#983 [22:45] <TheNytangel> You can download the new ones and then delete the old ones
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#989 [23:16] <Kuxir> hello
#990 [23:16] <Kuxir> is anybody here?
#991 [23:16] <Kuxir> I have an issue with my game
#992 [23:16] <Pepper> Certainly
#993 [23:16] <Pepper> What's up?
#994 [23:16] <Kuxir> oh hi
#995 [23:16] <Kuxir> yeah
#996 [23:16] <Kuxir> 2 things
#997 [23:16] <Kuxir> 1, the sound stopped working in-game
#998 [23:17] <Kuxir> all sounds, from the title to pause menu to in-game sounds
#999 [23:17] <Pepper> Hmm
#1000 [23:17] <Pepper> No mods?
#1001 [23:17] <Kuxir> restarted minecraft, restarted my computer
#1002 [23:17] <Kuxir> no, no mods
#1003 [23:17] <Kuxir> also, when I try watching youtube vids or plsy flash games
#1004 [23:17] <Kuxir> it skips every other second, both video and sound
#1005 [23:18] <Kuxir> this start immediately after I downloaded minecraft
#1006 [23:18] <Pepper> Uh... I doubt Minecraft would have anything to do with that...
#1007 [23:19] <Pepper> Hm, sounds... You could try deleting the resources folder and redownloading it
#1008 [23:19] <Kuxir> my flash player and java are up-to-date, and was working fine immediately before I downloaded minecraft
#1009 [23:19] <Kuxir> I'll try that
#1010 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't touch Flash at all, and youtube doesn't use java.
#1011 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> There's really no interaction between them
#1012 [23:20] <Kuxir> strange...
#1013 [23:21] <Kuxir> I'm gonna go try what you said, and a few other things
#1014 [23:21] <Kuxir> if it works, I'll come back and thank you :p
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#1016 [23:22] <Kuxir> I can't find the resources folder
#1017 [23:23] <Kuxir> also, I'm using ubuntu, does that change anything?
#1018 [23:23] <Pepper> Oh
#1019 [23:23] <Pepper> Probably :p
#1020 [23:24] <Pepper> I've no idea about Minecraft on Linux though, I'm sure GreyVulpine could help more
#1021 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> See ~/.minecraft/resources
#1022 [23:26] <Kuxir> terminal says file doesn't exist
#1023 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> cd ~/.minecraft/
#1024 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> ls -a
#1025 [23:29] <Kuxir> ugh
#1026 [23:29] <Kuxir> I don't get this
#1027 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1028 [23:31] <Kuxir> I'm just gonna delete minecraft and redownload it
#1029 [23:32] <Kuxir> is there a way to keep my save files
#1030 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes. delete everything in ~/.minecraft/ except for ~/.minecraft/saves
#1031 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Also delete the minecraft.jar launcher you got from the website, redownload it
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#1033 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Next time you run minecraft, it'll redownload all the files in ~/.minecraft
#1034 [23:42] <Kuxir> I don't know how to do this
#1035 [23:43] <Kuxir> I recently got ubuntu, to help with learning programming
#1036 [23:43] <Kuxir> but I barely know anything so far >.>
#1037 [23:43] <Kuxir> idk the terminal commands to open files and stuff
#1038 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> What do you want to do right now?
#1039 [23:45] <Kuxir> open the .minecraft directory
#1040 [23:46] <Kuxir> and delete everything but the saves file
#1041 [23:46] <The> Kuxir: I use ubuntu. do you want me to help with teamviewer
#1042 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Open up your terminal, do: cd ~/.minecraft
#1043 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Next, do: mv saves/ ~
#1044 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> That'll move your saves folder to your home folder
#1045 [23:47] <Kuxir> okay
#1046 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Do an: ls -a
#1047 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> That'll list what files are in the folder you're in.
#1048 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Make sure saves is not there.
#1049 [23:48] <Kuxir> yep,. it's not in there
#1050 [23:48] <Kuxir> hmm, the resources file is there now
#1051 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Alright. To delete files, you need to use the rm command
#1052 [23:48] <Kuxir> it was saying it couldn't find it before
#1053 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> •Doug• rm -r ~/.minecraft/
#1054 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> er, bah
#1055 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Do that command ^
#1056 [23:50] <Kuxir> kk
#1057 [23:51] <Kuxir> hmm, strange
#1058 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1059 [23:51] <Kuxir> I do pwd
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#1061 [23:51] <Kuxir> and it says it's /home/(myusername/.minecraft
#1062 [23:51] <Kuxir> but when I look in the home folder
#1063 [23:51] <Kuxir> it's not there
#1064 [23:51] <Kuxir> is it a hidden file/
#1065 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Remember that any folders/files that are prefixed by a . in linux, is hidden
#1066 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> do ls -a to list all files
#1067 [23:52] <Kuxir> eeyup
#1068 [23:53] <Kuxir> okay
#1069 [23:54] <Kuxir> got it all removed
#1070 [23:54] <Kuxir> gonna redownload now
#1071 [23:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#1071 [23:54] <Kuxir> hopefully it works
#1072 [23:54] <Kuxir> also fixed issue of my flash player being stupid myself
#1073 [23:54] <Kuxir> was my graphics card
#1074 [23:59] <Kuxir> success!
#1075 [23:59] <Pepper> Yay :D
#1076 [23:59] <Kuxir> thank you for the help :)