#MinecraftHelp > 2012-05-20
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#13 [00:45] <charmander> is there a number i can call to figure out why my accounts not working?
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#23 [01:38] <FlyinPig> I'm having trouble installing minecraft. It gets stuck at the "minecraft.jar" file everytime and crashes. Anyone know how to fix this?
#24 [01:39] <Thrae> FlyinPig: What AntiVirus are you using? Any Internet Security Suites? Try disabling them.
#25 [01:39] <Thrae> This is pretty common with some security software.
#26 [01:40] <FlyinPig> AVG
#27 [01:40] <FlyinPig> kk ill give it a try
#28 [01:40] <Thrae> Yep, we've had reports in the past with AVG.
#29 [01:42] <FlyinPig> Awesome, that worked! It'll run just fine if i enable AVG, right?
#30 [01:43] <Thrae> Yep, until you need to update Minecraft again.
#31 [01:43] <Thrae> You can just google how to add Java as an exception.
#32 [01:43] <Thrae> (How to add exceptions for programs)
#33 [01:43] <FlyinPig> Ah kk, will do. Thanks for the help.
#34 [01:43] <Thrae> No problem.
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#46 [02:45] <nitwit> Hello, I'm having some trouble trying to play MultiPlayer, I'm a new to MineCraft.
#47 [02:45] <nitwit> I can't find any servers on the Server Browser
#48 [02:45] <nitwit> I keep clicking refresh but nothing happens. There used to be a few there, I recall.
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#50 [03:00] <DiskDaemon> nitwit: Minecraft doesn't manage the servers. If you saw any previously, they were ones that you had connected to before.
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#52 [03:08] <nitwit> DiskDaemon: I see. And are there are any official servers I could join?
#53 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> Such things do not exist
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#55 [03:31] * Calinou imagines official servers and laughs.
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#58 [03:51] <Fry> anybody else get that stupid lighting glich with glass
#59 [03:52] <Fry> where it blocks all light on the object that is surrounded by the glass
#60 [03:57] <Calinou> Fry, known bug, but mojang doesn't seem to care... :/
#61 [03:57] <Calinou> the Optifine mod has a fix for that
#62 [03:57] <Fry> im using optifine but cant find the fix
#63 [04:01] <Fry> lol i was just at 160 FPS in game and as soon as i reduced my fog from Far to Normal it went down to 20FOS
#64 [04:01] <Fry> FPS
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#70 [04:46] <Rokkyu> hi guys, noob question: since 1.2.5 anyone who knows my IP can join my single player session? How does it work?
#71 [04:46] <Calinou> Rokkyu, no, since the 12w18a snapshot, this doesn't affect 1.2.5
#72 [04:46] <Calinou> also this would require port forwarding
#73 [04:46] <Calinou> so: no, unless you've port-forwarded 25565 in TCP
#74 [04:47] <Calinou> even if you're playing the snapshot
#75 [04:47] <Rokkyu> so such person still needs to know my IP, right?
#76 [04:47] <Rokkyu> not user name?
#77 [04:48] <Rokkyu> and in future updates my old map will become accessible to other players?
#78 [04:49] <Calinou> no, unless you port-forward.
#79 [04:49] <Rokkyu> or will I need to create new world to let people play with me?
#80 [04:49] <Calinou> you connect to a server using IP, not username
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#82 [04:49] <Calinou> you don't have to create a new world to let people visit it in the next version
#83 [04:49] <Calinou> but you'll have to forward port 25565 in TCP
#84 [04:49] <Rokkyu> got it, thx
#85 [04:49] <Calinou> and allow incoming connections in your firewall to that port
#86 [04:49] <Calinou> if any
#87 [04:50] <Rokkyu> that's all I wanted to know, thx Calinou
#88 [04:50] <Calinou> np
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#91 [05:23] <paulens12> hello
#92 [05:23] <paulens12> xD
#93 [05:24] <paulens12> is it possible that mojang makes people wait 5 days after purchase?
#94 [05:24] <paulens12> i won a gift code in youtube from minecraftcinema
#95 [05:24] <paulens12> now they're trying to buy it
#96 [05:24] <paulens12> xD
#97 [05:24] <paulens12> they payed thuesday
#98 [05:25] <paulens12> tuesday*
#99 [05:25] <paulens12> and didn't get the giftcode?
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#101 [05:26] <paulens12> lol 2 vashers
#102 [05:27] <paulens12> xD
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#109 [05:57] <wccanard> hello I have some questions about running a minecraft server
#110 [05:57] <wccanard> I have set a server up for my kids and it works fine
#111 [05:57] <wccanard> But they have questions.
#112 [05:57] <wccanard> 1) Is it possible to change to and from peaceful mode without having to restart the server?
#113 [05:57] <wccanard> 2) Is it possible for an op, or me ["console"] to spawn monsters?
#114 [05:58] <wccanard> 3) Rather more audaciously, the rather wonderful "is it possible to change all of the ground pieces to something else all at once?"
#115 [05:58] <wccanard> [so they don't have to go around doing it by hand
#116 [05:58] <wccanard> ]
#117 [05:59] <wccanard> I'm currently running an official minecraft server and my kids have an account each.
#118 [05:59] <wccanard> googling led me to "bukkit". My kids are quite nerdy and I am wondering whether it's worth going down that route
#119 [05:59] <wccanard> and letting them write or use mods.
#120 [06:01] <zosk> 1) did u try to "/reload" after modifing the game mode ?
#121 [06:01] <wccanard> I didn't ever modify the game mode
#122 [06:01] <wccanard> except
#123 [06:01] <wccanard> by stopping the server and editing server.properties
#124 [06:01] <wccanard> and then restarting.
#125 [06:01] <zosk> 2) not without plugins I can't help u for this question
#126 [06:02] <zosk> try to midify the server.properties and use "/reload"
#127 [06:02] <wccanard> Oh -- you mean don't stop the server, change server.properties, and then hit /reload and hope?
#128 [06:02] <zosk> are you using bukkit or the vanilla server ?
#129 [06:02] <wccanard> My instinct say that one shouldn't goof around with system files while the program is running!
#130 [06:02] <wccanard> But maybe they're wrong.
#131 [06:02] <wccanard> I'm using the vanilla server. I just got it working yesterday.
#132 [06:03] <zosk> it won't work then
#133 [06:03] <OfUnknown> What's your aim from choosing from and between peaceful game mode?
#134 [06:03] <zosk> "/reload" is for bukkit server only
#135 [06:03] <wccanard> I can happily change to bukkit.
#136 [06:03] <wccanard> Here's a question about changing to bukkit: my kids spent hours yesterday making a town with lots of building etc
#137 [06:04] <OfUnknown> Also there's no reason one shouldn't use bukkit
#138 [06:04] <wccanard> If I switch to bukkit will I necessarily lose all of this
#139 [06:04] <wccanard> or can I just copy it all over?
#140 [06:04] <zosk> it the better solution and it will answer to the 2nd and 3rd question
#141 [06:04] <OfUnknown> Just transfer the world folder over.
#142 [06:04] <wccanard> I think the peaceful mode question came from the following issue.
#143 [06:04] <wccanard> OK so my 10 year old had a birthday party yesterday
#144 [06:04] <wccanard> and he had it in cyberspace with his friends all logging in to the server.
#145 [06:05] <wccanard> My kids did a huge amount of work making houses etc beforehand
#146 [06:05] <wccanard> but at times they wanted zombies spawning and at other times they just wanted them out the way so they could build stuff
#147 [06:05] <wccanard> So they wanted to switch between modes
#148 [06:05] <wccanard> but kept having to bug me to restart the server.
#149 [06:05] <zosk> it should be okay to copy paste the world to bukkit if you stop your server properly
#150 [06:05] <wccanard> Ideally they'd just run the server themselves but they want to run a client on their machine.
#151 [06:05] <wccanard> and I've heard that there are issues about client/server on the same machine, so I said I'd run the server.
#152 [06:06] <OfUnknown> It's basically just ram usage.
#153 [06:06] <wccanard> I had such a nightmare yesterday. Party started at 2pm UK time and at 1:30pm the minecraft.net login servers were down and my heart was in my mouth.
#154 [06:06] <wccanard> OK so I think I will switch to bukkit.
#155 [06:06] <zosk> the web client was working by the way
#156 [06:06] <wccanard> The only reason I didn't start with bukkit was that I hadn't heard of it this time last week when my kids decided they were having a minecraft party.
#157 [06:07] <zosk> bukkit is THE solution
#158 [06:07] <wccanard> I have had very very limited success with the web client.
#159 [06:07] <OfUnknown> I don't believe we can help with mods in this channel though.
#160 [06:07] <OfUnknown> So if you run into problems with that.
#161 [06:07] <OfUnknown> You'll have to ask in the bukkit channel I believe.
#162 [06:07] <wccanard> I think my kids will be keen to learn how to write mods. Thanks for the help. Is the bukkit channel on esper.net?
#163 [06:08] <wccanard> It's OK I will find my way to bukkit help. Thanks for your help here.
#164 [06:08] <wccanard> Thanks a lot.
#165 [06:08] <OfUnknown> #bukkit I believe
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#178 [08:21] <sammaelt> hello!
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#180 [08:31] <x12> Hi
#181 [08:32] <sammaelt> hi
#182 [08:36] <x12> Why is it so empty here?
#183 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
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#185 [08:37] <DiskDaemon> Will the real Notch please stand up?
#186 [08:37] <Notch017> sammaelt! :)
#187 [08:37] <Notch> Nahh
#188 [08:37] <x12> :D
#189 [08:38] <x12> http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/internet-memes-will-the-uttermost-certain-slim-shady-please-erect-to-a-very-straight-upright-position.jpg
#190 [08:38] <x12> Replace the words slim shady with notch
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#194 [08:48] <sammaelt> hi Notch017
#195 [08:49] <sammaelt> would you please choose another nicknname at some time by the way? :s
#196 [08:52] <DiskDaemon> Notch017: You just need to type /nick newUserName
#197 [08:54] <Notch017> cant change nick while banned :L
#198 [08:55] <DiskDaemon> leave the channel, change nick, then please come back
#199 [08:55] <Morrolan> Seems #mcp-modding doesn't allow nick changes if not registered.
#200 [08:59] <[XYZ]> sorry about that :)
#201 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> [XYZ]: thanks, tha's appreciated
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#205 [09:06] <sammaelt> much appreciated :)
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#211 [09:27] <mib_4pmddo> hi, i can't download minecraft because every time i try it just says can't connect to minecraft.net. does anyone know why this is?
#212 [09:28] <Morrolan> What security software are you using?
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#214 [09:29] <Morrolan> Hmm, ought to run now. But before I leave, a few possible solutions:
#215 [09:29] <Morrolan> Check your security software, make sure Minecraft is allowed through it. If you are using AVG, disable its linkscanner module.
#216 [09:29] <Morrolan> Check your hosts file, if there are any entries containing "minecraft.net" in them, remove them.
#217 [09:29] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#218 [09:30] <mib_4pmddo> kapersky
#219 [09:30] <Shocky3> surprise butt sex!
#220 [09:30] <Morrolan> Hmm, okay, then make sure Minecraft is allowed to communicate with the internet.
#221 [09:30] <mib_4pmddo> ok thanks
#222 [09:30] <Morrolan> If this doesn't help, check your hosts file: "Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad,"
#223 [09:31] <Morrolan> In that file, remove any entries with "minecraft.net" in them.
#224 [09:31] <mib_4pmddo> ok
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#226 [09:34] <mib_4pmddo> none of that worked
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#229 [09:45] <Broadleaf12> How do you craft enchant ment tables
#230 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> Instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchanting
#231 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> Directly from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment_Table
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#237 [10:10] <orange_pig> can you play minecrafton safe mode?
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#240 [10:17] <sammaelt> singleplayer yes i think
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#247 [10:35] <orange_pig> anyone know can you play minecraft classic on safe mode?
#248 [10:38] <sammaelt> I think you can, at least singleplayer why dont you try
#249 [10:38] <sammaelt> not sure
#250 [10:38] <sammaelt> oh classic
#251 [10:38] <sammaelt> you need to browser for classic maybe?
#252 [10:38] <sammaelt> the*
#253 [10:39] <orange_pig> it says error 4
#254 [10:39] <sammaelt> for classic yea
#255 [10:39] <sammaelt> i think you need to be online
#256 [10:39] <sammaelt> not sure
#257 [10:40] <orange_pig> i am.
#258 [10:40] <orange_pig> says access is denied.
#259 [10:40] <sammaelt> you cannot be online on safemode
#260 [10:40] <orange_pig> safemode with networking
#261 [10:41] <sammaelt> I see..
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#263 [10:44] <Devin> So maybe there's someone else here now with a different idea.
#264 [10:45] <Devin> Okay, so I've wanted to reinstall Minecraft (to get rid of the excess files in my .minecraft from old mods.)
#265 [10:45] <oldtopman> Yeah?
#266 [10:45] <Devin> When I go to delete .minecraft, and then run minecraft.exe, it won't download the files. It gets stuck on downloading the .jars
#267 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> copy .minecraft to a backup folder, delete the original, then run the launcher to get a clean lot
#268 [10:45] <sammaelt> devin
#269 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> What Antivirus do you run, Devin?
#270 [10:45] <oldtopman> Do you have any antivirus software?
#271 [10:45] <Devin> AVG
#272 [10:45] <Devin> :<
#273 [10:45] <oldtopman> ninja'd
#274 [10:45] <sammaelt> aww DiskDaemon was faster
#275 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#276 [10:45] <sammaelt> ninjaed
#277 [10:45] <Devin> DiskDaemon, I did that.
#278 [10:46] <sammaelt> laugh
#279 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> paid/trial/free version of AVG?
#280 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Go to AVG's options, turn off the linkscanner module, run minecraft
#281 [10:46] <Devin> GreyVulpine, but I've never had this problem before.
#282 [10:46] <Devin> One second.
#283 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> We've seen this time and time again with AVG
#284 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> Turning off link scanner is a preferable solution than to just disable AVG completely
#285 [10:47] <Devin> Now this is going to sound stupid, but how do I turn it off? I don't see anything that turns it off completely.
#286 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Go into AVG's options, it's an option in the left side
#287 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Then some sort of checkbox
#288 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> with pictures http://softwaretracker.blogspot.co.nz/2010/10/disable-useless-linkscanner-in-avg.html
#289 [10:51] <Devin> HEY YOU GUYS. I love you.
#290 [10:51] <Devin> I just need better anti-virus I guess.
#291 [10:51] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft Security Essentials is a very good alternative
#292 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> I recommend that as well ^
#293 [10:51] <Devin> I'll be switching sometime quite soon.
#294 [10:52] <Devin> Thanks again!
#295 [10:52] <Devin> Thanks again!
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#297 [10:52] <sammaelt> :3
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#305 [12:10] <Jakestarz555> Soo.
#306 [12:10] <Kealper> Soo?
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#308 [12:11] <Jakestarz555> I dont have minecraft for pc or xnox. Only for android.
#309 [12:11] <Jakestarz555> *xbox
#310 [12:11] <Jakestarz555> :(
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#312 [12:11] <Kealper> that is quite unfortunate, but i'm not quite sure what you're asking...
#313 [12:12] <Jakestarz555> When is the next update for,MineCraft Pocket Edition?
#314 [12:12] <Kealper> i'm not sure, only Mojang knows that
#315 [12:13] <Jakestarz555> :(
#316 [12:13] * Kealper wishes he had an Android phone
#316 [12:13] <Jakestarz555> Do you know how I open a .so lib file?
#317 [12:13] <DiskDaemon> PE versions http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_version_history
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#319 [12:13] <DiskDaemon> PE upcoming features http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_upcoming_features
#320 [12:14] <Kealper> i don't think you can, as far as i'm aware, a .so file is similar in function to a Windows .dll file
#321 [12:14] <DiskDaemon> no ETA as of yet though
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#323 [12:14] <Kealper> DiskDaemon: the ETA is what he was asking about
#324 [12:14] <Jakestarz555> I heard you can decompile it through android NDK.
#325 [12:15] <DiskDaemon> indeed, so even though there is no eta, there is other information that can be useful and informative to explore
#326 [12:15] <Kealper> DiskDaemon: ahh, fair enough
#327 [12:15] <Jeppe> I just need the options for chest in PE :-)
#328 [12:15] <Jakestarz555> Ok. Im trying to modify the Android Pocket Adition.
#329 [12:15] <Jakestarz555> Haha yea
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#331 [12:17] <Kealper> anyways... you probably could "decompile" a .so file, but it isn't going to be Java source code that comes out of it, it's most likely going to be something like ARM assembly
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#334 [12:19] <Kealper> because the NDK is not any form of Java, it's C code that gets compiled right to native ARM executables, instead of Dalvik VM bytecode
#335 [12:19] <Jakestarz555> I know I only wish to Mod The Game.
#336 [12:21] <Jakestarz555> How do I use android NDK?
#337 [12:21] <Kealper> well i'm just saying.... making mods for Minecraft Pocket Edition is almost impossible (i say almost because if you're good enough, you can do it), it's nothing like the PC version of the game, where it's extremely easy to mod
#338 [12:21] <Jakestarz555> Well.
#339 [12:21] <Kealper> and as for that.... no idea, i don't have an Android phone so i've never played around with their NDK thing
#340 [12:22] <Jakestarz555> Im already developing some. I have created a mod for infinite word space.
#341 [12:22] <Jakestarz555> *world
#342 [12:22] <Kealper> in PE?
#343 [12:22] <Jakestarz555> It is quite possible. Yes.
#344 [12:22] <Kealper> :o nice
#345 [12:23] <Jakestarz555> I just need to get into the .so file and I can really mod it.
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#347 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> How do you craft enchantment tables?
#348 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> ?
#349 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> ?
#350 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> ?
#351 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> ?
#352 [12:23] <Broadleaf12> ?
#353 [12:23] * Kealper kicked Broadleaf12 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: roadleaf12 :Broadleaf12)
#354 [12:23] <Jakestarz555> No Spam
#355 [12:23] <Jakestarz555> **hi
#356 [12:24] * Kealper waits for him to rejoin >.>
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#357 [12:24] <Jakestarz555> Lol
#358 [12:24] <Broadleaf12> So, ho do you?
#359 [12:24] <Kealper> Broadleaf12: please don't spam the chat
#360 [12:24] <Jakestarz555> *how
#361 [12:24] <Broadleaf12> craft enchantment tables?
#362 [12:24] <Broadleaf12> i wont
#363 [12:24] <Kealper> Broadleaf12: i'm not quite sure what you mean, could you be more specific?
#364 [12:25] <Jakestarz555> Bye All.
#365 [12:25] <Broadleaf12> How.Do.You.Craft.Enchantment.Tables.In.Minecraft
#366 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment_Table
#367 [12:25] <Kealper> oh, actually making an enchantment table.. one second, i'll get you the pattern
#368 [12:25] <Kealper> or he could do that
#369 [12:25] <Kealper> that's cool too
#370 [12:25] <Broadleaf12> fuck you
#371 [12:25] * AuBot kicked Broadleaf12 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: roadleaf12 :Please keep it civil.)
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#373 [12:25] <Kealper> he's quite a scrappy little fellow, isn't he?
#374 [12:26] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#374 [12:26] <Kealper> and for some reason... "craft enchant table" totally didn't click in my just-recently-awoken brain...
#375 [12:27] * GreyVulpine pokes
#375 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ScNjBd118&feature=relmfu
#376 [12:27] <Shocky3> GreyVulpine: Video Game High School (VGHS) - Trailer | length 2m 35s | rated 4.82/5.00 | 3002105 views | by freddiew
#377 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> For the love of..
#378 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> !k Shocky3
#379 [12:27] <Shocky3> kthxbai Shocky3
#380 [12:27] * GreyBot kicked Shocky3 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hocky3 :<Kicks:928>)
#381 [12:27] <Kealper> so anyways... i was just looking at this "Simple" thing for Android... it's a BASIC-based language
#382 [12:27] <Kealper> and grr. bots.
#383 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Simple?
#384 [12:29] <DiskDaemon> http://code.google.com/p/simple/
#385 [12:30] <Kealper> indeed... set up just like VB6, where you make a GUI and then add BASIC-like code to the GUI to make it do fancy things... except on an Android phone instead of a PC
#386 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Huh, neat.
#387 [12:32] * Kealper still wants an Android phone so he can start writing apps and such in Go
#387 [12:35] <Kealper> so anyways...
#388 [12:36] <Kealper> is Minecraft PE made entirely in native code or did they make some parts in Java?
#389 [12:36] * Kealper should probably go check the wiki because it'd probably say
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#390 [12:38] <Kealper> oh, seems it is entirely native code... C++/Objective-C
#391 [12:38] <Aster> It's in Java I believe.
#392 [12:38] <Aster> Also, Android runs Java and C natively.
#393 [12:39] <Aster> Probably not written in C++.
#394 [12:39] <Aster> On iOS, it's most likely Objective-C.
#395 [12:39] <Aster> But it may be Java on both platforms.
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#397 [12:40] <Kealper> Android doesn't run Java natively, it does it "natively", there is the normal Android SDK which is Java running on a super-modified JVM with a customized standard library that allows Java apps to interface cleanly with the native Linux enviroment
#398 [12:41] <Kealper> and then the Android NDK, or Native Development Kit, which allows you to write in C/C++ and compile to native ARM code
#399 [12:41] <Kealper> also it says right on the wiki page that it's written in C++ on the Android side and Objective-C on the iOS side
#400 [12:41] <Kealper> also it says right on the wiki page that it's written in C++ on the Android side and Objective-C on the iOS side
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#403 [12:54] <Kealper> so anyways... my server currently has an uptime of like 122 days and 22 hours
#404 [12:55] <sammaelt> nice!
#405 [12:55] <Kealper> that isn't the worst part
#406 [12:55] <Kealper> it's a Windows server ._.
#407 [12:55] <sammaelt> gotta wait for 222 days and 22 hours :P
#408 [12:55] <sammaelt> awww
#409 [12:55] <sammaelt> guess not then
#410 [12:55] <sammaelt> impressive though
#411 [12:56] <Kealper> lol i don't think i'll let it go to a year of uptime, usually i'll shut it down every now and then to give it a good cleaning
#412 [12:57] <sammaelt> ^^
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#414 [12:57] <Calinou> <Kealper> it's a Windows server ._.
#415 [12:58] <Calinou> lmao, I have a friend with WS2008 too
#416 [12:58] <sammaelt> :p
#417 [12:58] <Kealper> that implies i'm running WS2008R2
#418 [12:58] <Necrodoom> uptime of 122 days without restarts?
#419 [12:58] <sammaelt> it wouldnt be an uptime if not ;s
#420 [12:59] <Kealper> it's a heavily modified version of Windows 7 that essentially gives me the same control as WS2008R2 would, but without all the CAL headaches
#421 [12:59] <Kealper> and yes, 122 days without a restart lol
#422 [12:59] <sammaelt> since its an uptime..
#423 [13:00] <sammaelt> aw
#424 [13:00] <Kealper> lol
#425 [13:00] <sammaelt> sorry :s
#426 [13:00] <Kealper> "someone uses Windows 7 as a server? screw that i'm out of here!"
#427 [13:00] <sammaelt> lulz
#428 [13:01] <sammaelt> Im gonna try this "pandora saga" mmo game
#429 [13:03] <Kealper> lol
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#432 [13:26] <Energeticmix> Hello
#433 [13:26] <Energeticmix> We get into our accounts?
#434 [13:26] <Calinou> ...huh?
#435 [13:26] <Energeticmix> Calinou We can play with our accounts?
#436 [13:27] <Energeticmix> in multiplayer
#437 [13:27] <Energeticmix> ?¿
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#439 [13:27] <Energeticmix> eeeeeeeh
#440 [13:28] <Energeticmix> yes or nou
#441 [13:28] <Energeticmix> no
#442 [13:29] <Energeticmix> We can play with our accounts?
#443 [13:29] <puffrfish> we can?
#444 [13:29] <Energeticmix> can play with our accounts?
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#446 [13:34] <Calinou> what do you mean?
#447 [13:38] <dudeB> Morrolan if you remember me from yesterday with the odd problem, well it's back. :p
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#449 [13:38] <dudeB> i'm getting to the point where i'd rather just go format c: format d: etc.
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#451 [13:39] <Energeticmix> Calinou can play with our accounts?
#452 [13:39] <Energeticmix> on multiplayer
#453 [13:39] <dudeB> yes
#454 [13:40] <Energeticmix> yes+_
#455 [13:41] <Energeticmix> Because when I go to my minecraft and put my data makes me not dowload ..._
#456 [13:41] <Energeticmix> ?
#457 [13:41] <Energeticmix> Help T_T
#458 [13:42] <Energeticmix> eei
#459 [13:42] <Energeticmix> help T_T
#460 [13:44] <Energeticmix> Helppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#461 [13:44] <Calinou> Energeticmix is spamming me in pm
#462 [13:44] <Calinou> *_*
#463 [13:45] <Calinou> ...we have no information at all, thus we can't help.
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#465 [13:45] <Energeticmix> oki oki sorry T_T
#466 [13:46] <Energeticmix> but i'm need help
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#468 [13:50] <Energeticmix> imm hello?
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#470 [13:50] <Energeticmix> Ei
#471 [13:50] <Energeticmix> Ei
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#473 [13:52] <DiskDaemon> Energeticmix: What sort of help?
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#475 [13:53] <Energeticmix> MP disk
#476 [13:53] <Energeticmix> okey?
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#479 [13:54] <Plus017> any texture packs that you guys recommend for 16x16 1.2.5?
#480 [13:54] <DiskDaemon> Do not private message me - you do not want your messages getting lost in the other channels that I'm in.
#481 [13:54] <DiskDaemon> Keep it in this channel
#482 [13:55] <Energeticmix> I'm launch my minecraft.exe and login in my account but say (Not downloaded) help me please
#483 [13:55] <Energeticmix> oki sorry
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#485 [13:56] <sammaelt> maybe try forcing update?
#486 [13:57] <Energeticmix> Disk?
#487 [13:57] <Energeticmix> T_T
#488 [13:57] <Energeticmix> and tried but nothing
#489 [13:57] <Energeticmix> I'm tried but nothing
#490 [13:57] <DiskDaemon> What is the status of your account?
#491 [13:58] <Energeticmix> My account is premium
#492 [13:59] <Energeticmix> I recently had played in servers but now it happens
#493 [13:59] <DiskDaemon> How does the browser version of the game behave?
#494 [13:59] <Energeticmix> I do not understand
#495 [14:00] <DiskDaemon> When you log in to your account on the minecraft website, you have the abiltity to play the browser version, or to download
#496 [14:00] <sammaelt> he mean, try loading the game into your internet browser
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#498 [14:01] <Energeticmix> In my browser does not work it is the background image for minecraft.net
#499 [14:01] <DiskDaemon> What does it say before the "not downloaded" ?
#500 [14:02] <Energeticmix> Disk you have team viewer¿
#501 [14:02] <Energeticmix> D:
#502 [14:02] <DiskDaemon> cannot connect? login error? unable to launch? out of cheese?
#503 [14:02] <DiskDaemon> no
#504 [14:02] <Energeticmix> T_T
#505 [14:03] <AmberK> !login
#506 [14:04] <Energeticmix> Disk read i'm login in my account in minecraf.exe and out red letters were says Login failed and next to Login failed there are 2 options Try again or Play offline but will not let me press Play offline because says (Not downloaded) understand
#507 [14:05] <DiskDaemon> So you cannot login to your account?
#508 [14:05] <Energeticmix> no, i can't
#509 [14:05] <DiskDaemon> Can you log in to minecraft.net ?
#510 [14:05] <Energeticmix> yes
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#513 [14:06] <DiskDaemon> try logging in using your email address instead
#514 [14:07] <Energeticmix> ok wait
#515 [14:07] <Energeticmix> Login failed...
#516 [14:07] <DiskDaemon> All I can suggest then is that you get help via officla channels, from http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151510-account-troubleshooting-/articles
#517 [14:08] <Energeticmix> But i'm not understand english i'm spanish T_T
#518 [14:08] <DiskDaemon> translate.google.com
#519 [14:09] <Energeticmix> okm
#520 [14:12] <Energeticmix> This not help me!!
#521 [14:12] <Energeticmix> TT_TT
#522 [14:13] <DiskDaemon> there is nobody official here - only us random strangers
#523 [14:13] <Energeticmix> So how can I play means I stung?
#524 [14:14] <DiskDaemon> I don't know.
#525 [14:14] <DiskDaemon> Maybe someone will come along in this channel who can help you later on
#526 [14:14] <Energeticmix> TT_TT!!!
#527 [14:14] <Energeticmix> D:
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#529 [14:15] <Energeticmix> disk download a team viewer please maybe i install something wrong
#530 [14:15] <Energeticmix> please please pleas
#531 [14:15] <DiskDaemon> no
#532 [14:15] <Energeticmix> T_T
#533 [14:15] <Lardman> What is the problem?
#534 [14:15] <DiskDaemon> I live in a country where I pay $$$ for every byte of broadband data
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#536 [14:16] <Energeticmix> Disk say Lardman my problem please T_T i'm go a shower
#537 [14:16] <DiskDaemon> He's having login failed trouble.
#538 [14:16] <Astaroth> guys i need help
#539 [14:16] <Astaroth> when i try to go multiplayer
#540 [14:16] <Astaroth> i tried to play on super-earth.net but when i try it sends an error "bad login"
#541 [14:17] <Lardman> Can you go on other servers?
#542 [14:17] <Astaroth> i tried on opticcraft but it answered the same error
#543 [14:17] <Energeticmix> lard help please
#544 [14:17] <Lardman> Hold on
#545 [14:17] <Lardman> Astaroth I will help you in a min
#546 [14:17] <Astaroth> lard??
#547 [14:17] <Lardman> Energ was here first
#548 [14:17] <Astaroth> ok
#549 [14:18] <Lardman> Okay energetic tell me your problem
#550 [14:18] <Astaroth> your name sounds familiar
#551 [14:18] <Lardman> From the forums
#552 [14:18] <DiskDaemon> [05:55:28] <Energeticmix> I'm launch my minecraft.exe and login in my account but say (Not downloaded) help me please
#553 [14:19] <Energeticmix> yes
#554 [14:19] <DiskDaemon> [06:07:25] <Energeticmix> Login failed...
#555 [14:19] <Lardman> Try to login on the minecraft.net website
#556 [14:19] <Astaroth> for me it says user not premium
#557 [14:19] <Lardman> Astaroth, is that your in game name
#558 [14:19] <DiskDaemon> Astaroth: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#559 [14:19] <Lardman> ^
#560 [14:19] <Energeticmix> i'm login in minecraft.net
#561 [14:20] <Lardman> THis, and I was going to check to see if your account was premium
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#563 [14:20] <Energeticmix> wats lard?
#564 [14:20] <Lardman> What is lard?
#565 [14:21] <Energeticmix> Lardman XD
#566 [14:21] <Lardman> ;)
#567 [14:21] <DiskDaemon> Lard = Fat
#568 [14:21] <Lardman> yea
#569 [14:21] <Energeticmix> xD
#570 [14:21] <Energeticmix> You help me lard or no
#571 [14:21] <Astaroth> my account on minecraft.net is filippe999
#572 [14:21] <Lardman> okay
#573 [14:22] <Energeticmix> Lard D: you help me or no
#574 [14:22] <DiskDaemon> !paid filippe999
#575 [14:22] <Lardman> Yea, I checked, it is not premium
#576 [14:22] <Lardman> Oh! you have an addon that checks it
#577 [14:22] <Astaroth> really?
#578 [14:22] <DiskDaemon> !paid Paul_Wilkins
#579 [14:22] <Lardman> Okay, so do you have your transaction I.D.?
#580 [14:22] <Astaroth> so that was a fake, i can play offline though
#581 [14:22] <Energeticmix> Lard
#582 [14:23] <Energeticmix> D:
#583 [14:23] <DiskDaemon> Energeticmix: What is your minecraft account name>
#584 [14:23] <Astaroth> i kinda cleaned junk files yesterday...
#585 [14:23] <Energeticmix> Energeticmix XD
#586 [14:23] <Lardman> !paid Energeticmix
#587 [14:23] <Lardman> Your good
#588 [14:23] <DiskDaemon> That's a godo start :)
#589 [14:23] <DiskDaemon> *good
#590 [14:23] <Lardman> Astaroth you can still get it back
#591 [14:23] <Astaroth> how?
#592 [14:23] <Lardman> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#593 [14:23] <Lardman> it tells you how somewhere in there
#594 [14:23] <Energeticmix> Larddd eii
#595 [14:24] <Lardman> Lol
#596 [14:24] <Lardman> Energetic I will private so I do not get distracted lol
#597 [14:24] <Energeticmix> lardman you have skype or team viefer
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#600 [14:25] <Astaroth> damm
#601 [14:25] <Suiker> Hi,
#602 [14:26] <Astaroth> i knew that browsing in semi-zombie state at 3 am would be bad
#603 [14:26] <Astaroth> i'll buy again directly from mokang this time
#604 [14:26] <Astaroth> mojang*
#605 [14:26] <Lardman> ^thats a start
#606 [14:28] <Astaroth> thanks, i'll buy again, by the way how much they charge?
#607 [14:28] <Lardman> 27ish dollars
#608 [14:28] <Astaroth> i'm a brazilian...
#609 [14:29] <Suiker> its 20 euros...
#610 [14:29] <Astaroth> about 54 in local currency
#611 [14:29] <Suiker> Cheap monney!
#612 [14:29] <Suiker> xD
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#614 [14:29] <Astaroth> well... real values about 0.5 of what dollar does
#615 [14:35] <Astaroth> if i collaborate to the game development can i win minecraft for free?
#616 [14:35] <Astaroth> i have some coding experience...
#617 [14:35] <DiskDaemon> I doubt it
#618 [14:36] <DiskDaemon> not the coding, but the free part
#619 [14:36] <Astaroth> not even bug reporting?
#620 [14:37] <DiskDaemon> nope
#621 [14:37] <DiskDaemon> labour of love applies here
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#623 [14:37] <Astaroth> okay i'll give it a shot
#624 [14:37] <Astaroth> lard
#625 [14:37] <Lardman> :)
#626 [14:39] <Astaroth> where do you ned help at?
#627 [14:39] <Astaroth> in coding part
#628 [14:39] <Astaroth> i'm not good in art
#629 [14:39] <Morrolan> None here works for Mojang themselves.
#630 [14:39] <Astaroth> lard name sounds familiar to me somehow
#631 [14:39] <Morrolan> But I don't think they're hiring at the moment.
#632 [14:39] <Morrolan> Forum mod I think.
#633 [14:39] <Astaroth> i'm just collaborating
#634 [14:39] <Lardman> Yes
#635 [14:40] <Astaroth> minecraft is a wonderful game, there's so many possiblities
#636 [14:40] <Lardman> ^
#637 [14:40] <Lardman> Only one that works for Mojang is Mollstram (that is in this chat)
#638 [14:40] <Astaroth> i'll give a look help forum
#639 [14:41] <Astaroth> time to work!
#640 [14:43] <Astaroth> is the wiki updated?
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#642 [14:44] <Morrolan> "updated" as in?
#643 [14:44] <Morrolan> There's always work to do on every wiki, but atleast the English one is mostly on top of the news.
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#645 [14:46] <Astaroth> so this bad login error i get when trying to play multiplayer
#646 [14:46] <Astaroth> is because i'm non paid?
#647 [14:46] <Morrolan> Yep.
#648 [14:47] <DiskDaemon> only paid are allowed to login via the launcher, and then download the game
#649 [14:47] <Lardman> ^
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#651 [14:51] <Lardman> Why hello Klepto
#652 [14:51] <KleptoKat> Hello.
#653 [14:51] <KleptoKat> How are you?
#654 [14:52] <Lardman> Good, you?
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#656 [14:52] <KleptoKat> Doing great.
#657 [14:52] <KleptoKat> Should I know you or something?
#658 [14:52] <KleptoKat> Should I know you or something?
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#660 [14:53] <Lardman> No
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#662 [14:58] <doggydog8> how do u spawn villigars on minecraft?
#663 [14:59] <doggydog8> :(
#664 [14:59] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft is the best place to find out that sort of knowledge
#665 [15:00] <doggydog8> k
#666 [15:00] <doggydog8> bye
#667 [15:00] <doggydog8> bye
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#670 [15:02] <doggydog8> back
#671 [15:02] <NinjaKirby> Spawn Villagers? Can't you just /give yourself some Eggs, to throw down, or place in dispensers
#672 [15:02] <NinjaKirby> Or is this a different kind of spawn
#673 [15:03] <doggydog8> i meant breed
#674 [15:03] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, I've seen in a BlueXephos vid, but can't recall how they did it :/
#675 [15:04] <doggydog8> i tried melons
#676 [15:04] <DiskDaemon> Ahh okay, now that we have some context things can be helped better.
#677 [15:04] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Villager#Mating_and_Population
#678 [15:04] <doggydog8> thanks
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#680 [15:07] <Plus017> any one throw me some good seeds?
#681 [15:08] * clarjon1 throws Plus017 some corn, tomato, and carrot seeds
#681 [15:08] <Plus017> made me smile, but i'm kinda in a rush :|
#682 [15:08] <clarjon1> ummm.
#683 [15:08] <DiskDaemon> Here's one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUc5ZuwlDW0
#684 [15:08] <clarjon1> kl;jafsdkl;adsjfadsfl;kj is a fun one.
#685 [15:08] <Shocky3> DiskDaemon: Minecraft Map Seed - Castaway on Punchwood Island! (SURVIVAL) | length 9m 39s | rated 4.96/5.00 | 40808 views | by paulsoaresjr
#686 [15:12] <NinjaKirby> clarjon1: This seed looks like a keyboard mash, I can tell by some of the Semicolon's and having seen quite a few Seeds in my time.
#687 [15:12] <clarjon1> NinjaKirby: it is a keyboard mash, that i typed in, out of boredom last month.
#688 [15:12] <clarjon1> NinjaKirby: I enjoyed the layout of the land so much, it has become my Main Map for now.
#689 [15:12] <DiskDaemon> ahh, but it was a seeded keyboard mash that resulted in results so resultant that it resulted in a recording of the result
#690 [15:12] <sammaelt> nice!
#691 [15:12] <NinjaKirby> lol! Amazing man, truly
#692 [15:13] <sammaelt> lulz diskD
#693 [15:13] <DiskDaemon> resulting in the resultant result that just resulted right here
#694 [15:13] * DiskDaemon stops now
#694 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> Would be even more impressive if that seed is still Copied in your OS Cache, so whenever you need it, you just paste
#695 [15:13] <NinjaKirby> For a month straight.
#696 [15:14] <NinjaKirby> You had it that handy to offer, it kinda seemed like it
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#699 [15:23] <lumpysolo> Hi
#700 [15:23] <lumpysolo> I need help
#701 [15:26] <NinjaKirby> What's up lumpy?
#702 [15:27] <NinjaKirby> Wow, Glowfish IRC is ridiculous
#703 [15:31] <lumpysolo> WHen I go into minecraft
#704 [15:31] <lumpysolo> And I play
#705 [15:31] <lumpysolo> After about 15 minutes
#706 [15:31] <clarjon1> um.
#707 [15:31] <lumpysolo> This really annoying static line keeps coming on and of from the left corner to the ceneter
#708 [15:31] <lumpysolo> And then
#709 [15:31] <lumpysolo> It says
#710 [15:31] <lumpysolo> "Minecraft has run out of memory"
#711 [15:31] <clarjon1> That sounds like your Graphics card is overheating
#712 [15:32] <lumpysolo> I play WoW
#713 [15:32] <lumpysolo> And Skyrim
#714 [15:32] <clarjon1> Yes, and?
#715 [15:32] <lumpysolo> With really intense graphics
#716 [15:32] <lumpysolo> And nothing like that happens
#717 [15:32] <clarjon1> I get better FPS in Skyrim than Minecraft
#718 [15:32] <clarjon1> GTA IV overheats my computer less than minecraft.
#719 [15:32] <lumpysolo> so what do I do?
#720 [15:32] <lumpysolo> It has never done this before
#721 [15:32] <clarjon1> 1) Clean the dust outta your computer.
#722 [15:32] <lumpysolo> I got none
#723 [15:33] <lumpysolo> Its a laptop
#724 [15:33] <clarjon1> ...
#725 [15:33] <clarjon1> Then it has dust in it.
#726 [15:33] <clarjon1> unless you blast it out regularly.
#727 [15:33] <lumpysolo> I do
#728 [15:33] <lumpysolo> I have a machine thingy that does it
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#730 [15:33] <clarjon1> okay, good.
#731 [15:33] <lumpysolo> I did it this morning
#732 [15:33] <clarjon1> how much Ram do you have?
#733 [15:34] <lumpysolo> How do I check
#734 [15:34] <lumpysolo> I don't think it even says
#735 [15:34] <clarjon1> Start menu, right click Computer, click properties
#736 [15:35] <lumpysolo> 6.00gb ram
#737 [15:35] <clarjon1> nice.
#738 [15:35] <clarjon1> lemme look up a script to help ya.
#739 [15:35] <lumpysolo> thx
#740 [15:36] <clarjon1> http://muttsworldmine.com/forums/topic/136-allocate-more-memory-to-minecraft/
#741 [15:36] <clarjon1> follow those instructions :)
#742 [15:39] <lumpysolo> When I click on the file
#743 [15:39] <lumpysolo> It opens
#744 [15:39] <lumpysolo> And then a second later
#745 [15:39] <lumpysolo> It closes
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#748 [15:39] <lumpysolo> clarjon1
#749 [15:40] <lumpysolo> clarjon1
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#751 [15:43] <lumpysolo> I need help!
#752 [15:43] <lumpysolo> SOMEONE
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#759 [16:03] <sammaelt> hi lumpy
#760 [16:04] <sammaelt> check your ram lauching dxdiag.exe in the "windows start" application shortcut, down left, if you see what i mean
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#772 [16:57] <awesomeman> The launcher won't open up in Linux Mint 12. It runs fine on my Windows installation, so it's not my account.
#773 [16:59] <DiskDaemon> This might be the best place for Mint assistance with Minecraft http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/474
#774 [17:02] <awesomeman> I stupidly forgot to make it executable
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#776 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> it's good that you got that sorted now
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#778 [17:04] <awesomeman> Yeah. Thanks for the link. I wouldn't have remembered otherwise.
#779 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#780 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#782 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> ^ means to look at the line above
#783 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> pardon, wrong chan
#784 [17:05] <Guest> Can we get SMP modding help here also?
#785 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> If it's bukkit then #bukkit is a better place for that sort of assistance
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#787 [17:08] <Guest> It is not bukkit but would that be a better choice still?
#788 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> what sort of modding help is it, creating a mod?
#789 [17:19] <Guest> No I am trying to install Mo Creatures on my server but I think I have found the problem seems to be a compatibility issue with modloaderMP
#790 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> okay, if you want further help with that, #risucraft is the place for general modding assistance
#791 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> or perhaps #smp for troubleshooting server mods
#792 [17:25] <Guest> Thanks
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#794 [17:27] <Hailfire101> Hi there. I'm trying to figure out how repeaters work in a circuit. But strange things seem to be happening. Is there a bug with repeaters and redstone wire?
#795 [17:29] <DiskDaemon> what are you experiencing?
#796 [17:32] <Hailfire101> A few things are 'odd' If I run redstone wire from a switch to a piston it works fine. But if I have 2 or more pistons side by side and run the wire behind the 2nd, it kills the circuit.
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#798 [17:33] <Lardman> Hail post a pic using Imgur
#799 [17:34] <Lardman> It will be easier to understand
#800 [17:34] <Hailfire101> Yea. :) Will try now.
#801 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> apparently you can trigger rows of pistons by placing a repeater behind each piston, and running wire to the repeaters
#802 [17:34] <Hailfire101> Yea, thats what I've had to do, put the repeaters behind all of the pistons and have the wire run next to the repeaters.
#803 [17:35] <Hailfire101> This way it works.
#804 [17:35] <Hailfire101> But, if I want repeaters on either side of the wire, only one side of repeaters work. Not both sides.
#805 [17:39] <Hailfire101> http://i.imgur.com/Q1zsc.jpg Here's a screenshot of my circuit. As you can see, I've had to put repeaters behind each piston (which seems wrong).
#806 [17:40] <Hailfire101> Also, only half the circuit works. Any suggestions?
#807 [17:41] <Lardman> The repeaters on the right side look backwards
#808 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> they are backwards
#809 [17:41] <Lardman> ^
#810 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> There's an embossed arrow on each repeator, indicating flow
#811 [17:42] <DiskDaemon> they're one-way, like diodes
#812 [17:42] <Hailfire101> Ahhh. :)
#813 [17:42] <Hailfire101> Thanks, never spotted that. lol
#814 [17:42] <Lardman> ;)
#815 [17:42] <Hailfire101> Still, any reason why I need a repeater behind each piston?
#816 [17:43] <Lardman> because then the redstone next to each other will connect to the other redstone and not the pistons
#817 [17:43] <Hailfire101> Or torch. I thought running wire behind them all would suffice.
#818 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> yes, because redston dust cannot "connect" to pistons if the dust is side by side.
#819 [17:44] <Hailfire101> So, I'm doing it the correct way? (Apart from putting the repeaters the wrong way around).
#820 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> yes
#821 [17:44] <Hailfire101> :) Thanks.
#822 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> is that for sugarcane?
#823 [17:45] <Hailfire101> Wheat.
#824 [17:45] <Hailfire101> I'm playing with different types.
#825 [17:45] <Hailfire101> One machine just opens a hole in a water tank and the flooding water then pushing the wheat down hill. This is another one I'm playing with.
#826 [17:46] <DiskDaemon> Ahh. You may alternatively want to play with using a paddock, and flushing the paddock from the middle with water
#827 [17:46] <Hailfire101> I think your paddock thing is the other machine I'm playing with.
#828 [17:46] <Hailfire101> Can farm quite a large area with those.
#829 [17:47] <DiskDaemon> Or having stepped ridges of land, with a piston letting water loose at the top to flow on down for several layers
#830 [17:47] <Hailfire101> Originally, I wanted to do it with trees and wood, but I believe this was removed from the game quite a while back?
#831 [17:48] <DiskDaemon> yes, automatic harvesting of wood is tricky due to the inconsistant nature of their growth
#832 [17:49] <DiskDaemon> growing jungle trees and throwing an ender pearl to its top is an efficient way to harvest though
#833 [17:50] <DiskDaemon> 2x2 jungle trees for the giant ones that is
#834 [17:51] <Hailfire101> Thanks alot for the help. :) :) You've really helped me figure this out more.
#835 [17:52] <Hailfire101> I'll have a play with the trees again.
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#837 [18:08] <frogzilla> Hi all. I am having problems running Minecraft on this computer (actually, it is my son who is having problems, I am the tech support dad).... Almost all of the surfaces in The Nether are scrambled, making it hard to know what is what. Any ideas? WinXP, Radeon VGA card
#838 [18:10] <Lardman> go to #minecrafthelp
#839 [18:10] <Lardman> They will be able to help more
#840 [18:10] <Lardman> oh wait
#841 [18:10] <Lardman> fail
#842 [18:11] <Lardman> thought I was in #minecraftforum
#843 [18:11] <frogzilla> :-) this is my first time in an IRC, so it was highly possible i was in the wrong forum.
#844 [18:11] <Lardman> Can you post a picture of it on imgur and post the link?
#845 [18:12] <frogzilla> yes, but I will have to fire it up.
#846 [18:12] <Lardman> okay
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#848 [18:23] <frogzilla> ok. evidently, it happens even before you get to The Nether.... this is a shot from creative mode: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6MZzXAIvNOTZVA4OFExd1JYb0U
#849 [18:23] <Lardman> woah, thats new
#850 [18:23] <Lardman> Try deleteing your bin folder in your .minecraft folder
#851 [18:24] <NinjaKirby> Wut is dat...
#852 [18:25] <Lardman> What is what Kirby?
#853 [18:25] <Lardman> bin folder or picture?
#854 [18:25] <frogzilla> that is the process of trying to create a portal... we quit making it when the textures started screwing up.
#855 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> It's okie~
#856 [18:25] <Lardman> Yea, so frog, Try deleteing you bin folder which is located in the .minecraft folder
#857 [18:26] <frogzilla> ok. i am looking for the .minecraft folder.
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#859 [18:28] <Lardman> you will need to use search bar
#860 [18:28] <Lardman> for fodlers
#861 [18:28] <Lardman> the folder browser thing
#862 [18:29] <frogzilla> i am fluent in the dos cmd.exe too. :-)
#863 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> Can't ya'll "%appdata%" under Run and it's top of the list
#864 [18:31] <Lardman> yea
#865 [18:31] <Lardman> that too
#866 [18:31] <Lardman> always forget about that way
#867 [18:32] <NinjaKirby> I dislike the Search feature, always feels like it's raepin' my HDD's
#868 [18:32] <frogzilla> ok. renamed it. just restart minecraft now?
#869 [18:32] <Lardman> did you delete the bin file or just rename it?
#870 [18:33] <frogzilla> i will delete the bin directory.
#871 [18:33] <Lardman> okay
#872 [18:33] <Lardman> Then restart
#873 [18:33] <Lardman> the minecraft launcher
#874 [18:33] <Lardman> and login
#875 [18:33] <frogzilla> ok
#876 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Well played Lardman, one more line and that woulda been a mute I thinkies
#877 [18:34] * NinjaKirby applauds
#877 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> Epic Skills
#878 [18:34] <Lardman> :)
#879 [18:34] <Lardman> I have been muted so many times... it is really annoying
#880 [18:35] <Lardman> Middle of helping someone *muted*
#881 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> I'm eating Oreo's, and I actually wish I had some Milk to dip them in for a change
#882 [18:36] <NinjaKirby> Quite dry by themselves.
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#885 [18:38] <Haklee> does anyone know how long it will be until you can buy minecraft in illinois?
#886 [18:39] <Haklee> or a different way to buy in in illinois?
#887 [18:39] <Lardman> Nope
#888 [18:39] <frogzilla> after deleting the bin directory, i saw it download the *jar files, but the same general thing... textures in the background were ok, but I put down a couple of bricks and they went wonky on me.
#889 [18:39] <Lardman> Paypal should work
#890 [18:39] <Haklee> :/
#891 [18:40] <Lardman> Have there been any updates? Java, driver, etc.
#892 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> Fresh Java installs have been proven to solve a myriad of problems
#893 [18:41] <frogzilla> this is my first time running minecraft... so, it has never "worked" on this computer yet.
#894 [18:41] <Lardman> sounds like a driver issue then
#895 [18:41] <Lardman> video card
#896 [18:42] <frogzilla> ok. i will remove all java JREs and try it again. and... re-install the video driver.
#897 [18:42] <frogzilla> thanks, Lardman.
#898 [18:42] <Lardman> Your welcome
#899 [18:42] <frogzilla> and Oreo Ninja. :-)
#900 [18:43] * NinjaKirby thrusts fists in the air!
#900 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> My work is done.
#901 [18:43] <frogzilla> y'all have a good one... it's dinner time in Texas.
#902 [18:43] <frogzilla> thanks again
#903 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> Lardman, let me tutch yur hand
#904 [18:43] <NinjaKirby> Take care Frogzilla
#905 [18:44] * NinjaKirby walks around with one arm in front of him, the other raised above his head
#905 [18:44] * Lardman tocuhes Ninja
#905 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> Oooh, barely tutching~
#906 [18:44] <Lardman> in the eye
#907 [18:44] <Lardman> ;)
#908 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> lol!
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#914 [18:59] <WestoverAirForceBase> how do i get unban?
#915 [18:59] <Lardman> From a server
#916 [19:00] <Lardman> ?
#917 [19:00] <WestoverAirForceBase> no from #nexus
#918 [19:00] <Lardman> You have to query an op from that irc channel and request to be unbanned
#919 [19:01] <WestoverAirForceBase> can you unban me?
#920 [19:01] <Lardman> I do not am not an op over at #nexus. in fact, I have never heard of the channel
#921 [19:02] <WestoverAirForceBase> its a channel
#922 [19:02] <Lardman> I am sorry, but I am unable to help you. You will have to talk privately to an op from that channel
#923 [19:03] <WestoverAirForceBase> i cant
#924 [19:03] <WestoverAirForceBase> can i help you guys?
#925 [19:04] <Lardman> I believe the command to talk to someone privately is /query (username)
#926 [19:04] <WestoverAirForceBase> ?
#927 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> or /msg username
#928 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> or /notice username
#929 [19:04] <Lardman> ^
#930 [19:05] <Lardman> I cannot reach that server so I cannot get the name of an op for you
#931 [19:05] <WestoverAirForceBase> thanks umm... can i help you guys on this IRC?
#932 [19:06] <Lardman> You don't need permission ;)
#933 [19:06] <Raslar21> nah im good lol
#934 [19:06] <WestoverAirForceBase> oh
#935 [19:06] <Raslar21> hey lard lol
#936 [19:06] <Lardman> Hey Ras
#937 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> As Lardman stated, you don't need to ask to help. Just help.
#938 [19:07] <WestoverAirForceBase> what do you do if thirs noone on asking a ? ?
#939 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> I do expect that any help given, is correct and truthful
#940 [19:07] * GreyVulpine is on 30 other channels, across 5 networks.
#940 [19:07] <Lardman|youtube> Lol Grey
#941 [19:07] <Lardman|youtube> I stay in my minecraft channels :)
#942 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> I help run another IRC network.
#943 [19:08] <Lardman|youtube> Which one?
#944 [19:08] <WestoverAirForceBase> what is it
#945 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Just a small network, nothing serious.
#946 [19:08] <WestoverAirForceBase> what is it
#947 [19:09] <WestoverAirForceBase> cmon im in the military
#948 [19:09] <Lardman|youtube> FOr some reason, I spam shift when I am not talking
#949 [19:09] <WestoverAirForceBase> weird
#950 [19:09] <Lardman|youtube> I just got a sticky keys notification
#951 [19:10] <WestoverAirForceBase> thats funny when it beeps
#952 [19:10] <Lardman|youtube> Its annoying for me
#953 [19:10] <Lardman|youtube> I don't like unexpected noises
#954 [19:11] <WestoverAirForceBase> ok?
#955 [19:11] * WestoverAirForceBase ok?
#955 [19:12] <WestoverAirForceBase> any one on?
#956 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> Oh hells yeah
#957 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Westerover, let me touch your hand
#958 [19:13] * NinjaKirby puts hand out
#958 [19:13] <WestoverAirForceBase> why
#959 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> let me tutch yur hand~
#960 [19:13] * NinjaKirby raises one arm in the air, the other pointing to you, hand stretching out
#960 [19:13] * WestoverAirForceBase puts hand out
#960 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> OooOoooh~
#961 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Slightly tutching hands
#962 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> LOL
#963 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, thank you.
#964 [19:14] <WestoverAirForceBase> hold up
#965 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Oh ah?
#966 [19:14] <Lardman|youtube> HEY! NinjaKirby is mine!
#967 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> XD Amazing
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#969 [19:14] <WestoverAirForceBase> back
#970 [19:14] <Lardman|youtube> Hello
#971 [19:15] <WestoverAirForceBase> i got a ?
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#973 [19:16] <Lardman|youtube> Why hello obl
#974 [19:16] * WestoverAirForceBase have a ? tell us
#974 [19:17] <Lardman|youtube> Go on
#975 [19:17] <WestoverAirForceBase> can you chak #nexus
#976 [19:17] <Lardman|youtube> I cannot connect to it
#977 [19:17] <WestoverAirForceBase> weird
#978 [19:18] <WestoverAirForceBase> i dont like school
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#980 [19:20] * WestoverAirForceBase have a ? tell us
#980 [19:20] <WestoverAirForceBase> have a ? tell us
#981 [19:21] <Lardman|youtube> Why hello Iaccidentally
#982 [19:21] <WestoverAirForceBase> ?
#983 [19:21] <Iaccidentally> hi
#984 [19:21] <Lardman|youtube> How are you?
#985 [19:21] <Iaccidentally> just rejoining channels on my new bnc,
#986 [19:22] <Lardman|youtube> Awesome
#987 [19:22] <Iaccidentally> how are you?
#988 [19:22] <Lardman|youtube> Anyone use xchat?
#989 [19:22] <Lardman|youtube> I am good
#990 [19:22] <Iaccidentally> i do :P
#991 [19:22] <Lardman|youtube> Is it good?
#992 [19:22] <Iaccidentally> heavily modified, but it was xchat at one time
#993 [19:22] <WestoverAirForceBase> i do
#994 [19:22] <Iaccidentally> and yes
#995 [19:22] <Iaccidentally> its the best free client
#996 [19:23] <Lardman|youtube> Okay, I don't like xchat that much
#997 [19:23] <Lardman|youtube> icechat*
#998 [19:23] <WestoverAirForceBase> its not working
#999 [19:23] <WestoverAirForceBase> noooooooo
#1000 [19:25] <WestoverAirForceBase> ok
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#1002 [19:26] <Lardman|youtube> I did not like it as much :/
#1003 [19:26] <WestoverAirForceBase> what
#1004 [19:27] <Lardman|youtube> I don't like xchat
#1005 [19:27] <Lardman|youtube> To boxy
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#1008 [19:29] <WestoverAirForceBase> im bord
#1009 [19:29] <Shocky3> YOU'RE bord? feel these nipples!
#1010 [19:29] <Lardman|youtube> Oh god....
#1011 [19:29] <WestoverAirForceBase> eww
#1012 [19:30] <WestoverAirForceBase> i getting cake
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#1015 [19:37] <WestoverAirForceBase> back
#1016 [19:40] <WestoverAirForceBase> any one asked a ?
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#1018 [19:42] <WestoverAirForceBase> k love
#1019 [19:42] <WestoverAirForceBase> whos a girl
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#1024 [20:14] <Eddie> Congratulations on the sex change.
#1025 [20:14] <Eddie> Oh.
#1026 [20:14] <AmberK> lolwut
#1027 [20:14] <Lardman> Lol
#1028 [20:14] <Lardman> She blew me up
#1029 [20:14] <AmberK> Lardman, I still used my michael bay explosion powers on you
#1030 [20:14] <AmberK> go back to your messy goop
#1031 [20:14] <AmberK> \o/
#1032 [20:15] * AmberK just realized we're in #minecrafthelp and not #minecraftforums
#1032 [20:15] <Messy_goop> Yea lol
#1033 [20:15] <AmberK> derp
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#1035 [20:19] <Telim> Can someone answer questions about minecraft - interested in buying but need to know if it can be used completely offline once account has been verified
#1036 [20:19] <Lardman> yes it can
#1037 [20:19] <Lardman> You just need to play online once
#1038 [20:20] <Telim> do u need to make your own server? or if u want to make mods - can u run a server complete offline as well
#1039 [20:20] <Lardman> You do not need a server for mods
#1040 [20:20] <Lardman> Do you mean plugins?
#1041 [20:21] <Telim> yes - interested in learning about game - friend played seems interesting to learn java - but cant be only when working in lab at night
#1042 [20:21] <Telim> err cant be online
#1043 [20:21] <Lardman> Yes you can run a local server
#1044 [20:22] <Telim> okay thanks - seemed like u had to have server with internet connection because it sends info back to main server
#1045 [20:22] <Lardman> nope :)
#1046 [20:23] <Telim> okay thanks
#1047 [20:23] <Telim> game ever on sale or do u buy it directly for like 27 us?
#1048 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Directly
#1049 [20:23] <Lardman> ^
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#1058 [21:16] <GBD> Hello All.
#1059 [21:16] <GBD> I require assistance.
#1060 [21:16] <GBD> Is anyone available?
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#1068 [21:54] <orange_pig> anyone help me with an error
#1069 [21:56] <orange_pig> it says pixil format not accelerated
#1070 [21:57] <superkabii> make sure your video card drivers are updated.
#1071 [21:58] <orange_pig> how might i do this?
#1072 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what video card you have installed on the machine, and what operating system you're using
#1073 [22:07] <orange_pig> Windows XP
#1074 [22:08] <Oerg866> I still have a problem with minecraft..... Minecraft crashes in random intervals
#1075 [22:08] <Oerg866> sometimes I can play like 30 or 60 minutes
#1076 [22:08] <Oerg866> sometimes it crashes after 60 seconds
#1077 [22:08] <Oerg866> it's really weird
#1078 [22:08] <Oerg866> I have pastebinned here a log file that was created in minecraft.exe's folder: http://pastebin.de/26371
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#1081 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Oerg866 - It's your ATI video drivers
#1082 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Update them
#1083 [22:10] <Oerg866_> really?
#1084 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> [atioglxx.dll+0xdc933c]
#1085 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> ATI's OpenGL drivers, yes
#1086 [22:10] <Oerg866_> Is this a new problem?
#1087 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1088 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> I see it quite frequently around here.
#1089 [22:11] <Oerg866_> Weird, I used to play minecraft all day long, but that was at 1.8 beta times heh
#1090 [22:11] * GreyVulpine nods
#1090 [22:11] <Oerg866_> Oh well, thanks
#1091 [22:11] <Oerg866_> Why is it only ATI having Minecraft problems?
#1092 [22:12] <Oerg866_> Is there a OpenGL to DirectX wrapper I can use for my laptop (stupid switchable graphics stuff doesn't work for OpenGL)
#1093 [22:12] <Oerg866_> ?
#1094 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1096 [22:12] <Oerg866_> sdfsfdsfsdfsdfs .... I have the urge to headdesk now =P
#1097 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> And it's not just ATI that has problems.. but ATI has a notorious problem with video drivers in general
#1098 [22:12] <langkid1> OfUnknown, you need help?
#1099 [22:12] <Oerg866_> Ey why does it sometimes randomly say out of memory too? :S
#1100 [22:13] <OfUnknown> No, why?
#1101 [22:13] <langkid1> Just checking :)
#1102 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, because you have a 32 bit operating system?
#1103 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Or you're running 32 bit java?
#1104 [22:13] <OfUnknown> Alright...
#1105 [22:13] <Oerg866_> 64 Bit OS
#1106 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Then install 64 bit java
#1107 [22:13] <Oerg866_> But I only have 4GB of memory D:
#1108 [22:13] <Oerg866_> Of which there are 2.4GB free when I start minecraft so that's not really a problem :S
#1109 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit java has a maximum allocated heap size of about 1.5 gigs under windows
#1110 [22:14] <Oerg866_> Oh
#1111 [22:14] <Oerg866_> that's silly.. OK I'll do that
#1112 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Give or take
#1113 [22:14] <Oerg866_> Maybe the GFX driver update will fix starcraft lags too :u
#1114 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't be surprised if it did
#1115 [22:15] <Oerg866_> I used to play 4v4 matches with 200 uinit armies with no significant lag like a year ago... now 2vs2 lags with those numbers lag
#1116 [22:15] <Oerg866_> SDFSDF Problems en masse
#1117 [22:17] <Oerg866_> *sigh* 153MB
#1118 [22:17] <Oerg866_> They don't offer the separate driver package either
#1119 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1120 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to ATI's drivers
#1121 [22:17] <Oerg866_> They used to last time i updated my drivers
#1122 [22:17] <Oerg866_> IIRC catalyst 11.9 or 11.10 here
#1123 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> ATI and good driver support have never been in the same sentence for as long as I've been a computer geek..
#1124 [22:18] <Lardman|homework> ^so true
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#1126 [22:22] <Oerg866_> At least they have the technology to start the new driver on the fly
#1127 [22:30] <Oerg866_> Minecraft is a little faster now
#1128 [22:30] <Oerg866_> lets hope it doesnt crash
#1129 [22:31] * Lardman|homework crosses his fingers for Oerg
#1129 [22:33] <Oerg866_> Mhm :D
#1130 [22:33] <Oerg866_> I can already notice a good thing, after i started the game again I found lots of nice materials in the mine i was in :3
#1131 [22:33] <Oerg866_> lol 12-piece gold mine
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#1133 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, hello.
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#1136 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> So... any ideas on 1.3 release? Too lazy for google.
#1137 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it'll be out when it's out
#1138 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Lovely answer. ;)
#1139 [23:10] <CrusaderDeleters> So, I'm guessing no exact release date. Hope it's soon.
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#1142 [23:17] <jeophsmith> Is this just for vanilla?
#1143 [23:18] <Lardman|homework> We can help a little with mods
#1144 [23:18] <jeophsmith> Well, I am trying to install a few mods, and I havent a clue why it doesnt work.
#1145 [23:19] <jeophsmith> is there an order in which things need to be installed
#1146 [23:19] <Lardman> Mod loader first
#1147 [23:19] <Lardman> Then everything else
#1148 [23:19] <Lardman> Some mods conflict so make sure to check
#1149 [23:20] <jeophsmith> Okay could you help me with the installation next?
#1150 [23:20] <Lardman> Cannot right now, I should be finshing my homework
#1151 [23:21] <Lardman> Anyone here that can help?
#1152 [23:21] <Lardman> Greyvulpine?
#1153 [23:21] <jeophsmith> Anyone>
#1154 [23:21] <Lardman> Just wait, Grey will probably be back soon
#1155 [23:22] <Lardman> If I finish my hw soon, I can help
#1156 [23:22] <jeophsmith> Mollstam....Molstam... why does that name sound familiar?
#1157 [23:22] <Lardman> He works for Mojang
#1158 [23:22] <ShaRose> He's the server guy for them.
#1159 [23:22] <jeophsmith> Oh, Daniel?
#1160 [23:22] <jeophsmith> The guy that was on the Shaft?
#1161 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Lard, grey doesn't help with mods.
#1162 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, jeo, mollstam is the web dev, I believe.
#1163 [23:23] <jeophsmith> Anyone that does?
#1164 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> I do. What you need help with?
#1165 [23:23] <Lardman> Oh sorry Crusader
#1166 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> And daniel (I think) is the new ai dev.
#1167 [23:24] <Lardman> He was just the only person I could think of
#1168 [23:24] <ShaRose> Nah, the AI dev is jon.
#1169 [23:24] <jeophsmith> Well I have tried all afternoon to get my biblical sized list of mods to work with eachother. and I KNOW its not the block Id's
#1170 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol. Most here devote no time to mods.
#1171 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Ah.
#1172 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> So, joe, check if any doesn't require modloader
#1173 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> and does not state is compatable iwth.
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#1175 [23:25] <Guest__> Hi desu~
#1176 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Who the heck...?
#1177 [23:25] <jeophsmith> Crusader, just call me Jeff, Cause thats how you say it :P and how do i determin which i put into the mods folder, and which I put into the bin
#1178 [23:25] <Guest__> This channel is sugoi kawaii
#1179 [23:26] <jeophsmith> Its not THAT cute/
#1180 [23:26] <Guest__> Will it tell me how to insert my beautiful nipponjin text into Minecraft chat?
#1181 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> jeff, anything .class heads right into your minecraft.jar
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#1183 [23:26] <Oerg866_> Hey GreyVulpine: Thanks a bunch :) Now I just have to RMA this board to fix the crashes with >4GB of ram installed and it's algud
#1184 [23:27] <Oerg866_> unfortunately 4GB is not enough these days for Minecraft + watching a youtube video + normal programs in the background
#1185 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1186 [23:27] <Lardman> I will pass the message along to him!
#1187 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> what do you mean "normal"?
#1188 [23:27] <jeophsmith> It is for me Oerg.
#1189 [23:27] <jeophsmith> I have Itunes, LoL installing, Youtube, IRC and MC open ATM
#1190 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> I had two gigs, and I ran not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR minecrafts, at the same exact time.
#1191 [23:27] <Guest__> He means botnets and webcam simulators
#1192 [23:28] <jeophsmith> and minecraft.
#1193 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> And I ran firefox.
#1194 [23:28] <Oerg866_> jeophsmith: I mean without having swapfile enabled
#1195 [23:28] <Oerg866_> I don't like the lagginess of caching RAM contents on RAM
#1196 [23:28] <Oerg866_> er
#1197 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> MC + MC + MC + MC + FF on 2gig.
#1198 [23:28] <Oerg866_> RAM contents on HDD
#1199 [23:28] <jeophsmith> I dont know what that is, therefor its nto on. Correct?
#1200 [23:28] <jeophsmith> *not
#1201 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh, hellz nawh.
#1202 [23:28] <Guest__> Guys
#1203 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> HDD for ram?
#1204 [23:28] <Oerg866_> Nope, it's enabled by default
#1205 [23:28] <Guest__> I have a problem with text input
#1206 [23:28] <ShaRose> It's called swap.
#1207 [23:28] <Guest__> Or I'll just wait for this one to die down first
#1208 [23:28] <jeophsmith> Well arent you cool Oerg
#1209 [23:28] <Oerg866_> Crusader: your swapfile is probably several gigabytes
#1210 [23:29] <Oerg866_> check C:\pagefile.sys?
#1211 [23:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh... I upgraded my ram to 4 gig, then 8 since then.
#1212 [23:29] <jeophsmith> I swear to God, if you tell me to delete Sys32 next.....
#1213 [23:29] <Oerg866_> yeah
#1214 [23:29] <CrusaderDeleters> No
#1215 [23:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Deled winsxs.
#1216 [23:29] <Oerg866_> XD
#1217 [23:29] <CrusaderDeleters> delete*
#1218 [23:29] <ShaRose> Back in the day I used to have 2 VM's, 3 copies of VS, IRC, Firefox, and some game running all the time
#1219 [23:30] <Oerg866_> My motherboard is broken, I get tons of crashes with more than a signle RAM module installed
#1220 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Get a new board. :o
#1221 [23:30] <Oerg866_> .
#1222 [23:30] <Oerg866_> No
#1223 [23:30] <Oerg866_> it's gonna be RMA'D
#1224 [23:30] <jeophsmith> I have a 2 day old HP Pav.
#1225 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> guest__, so you want to add in a txt file?
#1226 [23:30] <ShaRose> jeophsmith by the way, with the mods issue, do you get an exception or do some things just not work?
#1227 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> get 7z archiver.
#1228 [23:30] <Lardman> Voxel can get really annoying
#1229 [23:30] <Oerg866_> I noticed..
#1230 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Oi, I forgot I was looking for minecrafterrortest.bat
#1231 [23:31] <jeophsmith> Sha, it lets me boot to the Start screen, but then when I try o connect to any servers/ maps it BlackScreens
#1232 [23:31] <ShaRose> MCError / errortest batch
#1233 [23:31] <Oerg866_> After I RMA that board, I will have 10GB of memory :U Possibly 12, dunno if I'll use my secondary machine a lot
#1234 [23:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Please, shorter name. ._.
#1235 [23:31] <ShaRose> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecrafterrortest.bat < this.
#1236 [23:32] <ShaRose> There's a touhou lossless music torrent that's over a terabyte.
#1237 [23:32] <ShaRose> Just saying.
#1238 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Dang. You beat me.
#1239 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> jeff
#1240 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Just run the minecrafterrortest.bat from that site.
#1241 [23:33] <Oerg866_> That's a ncie batch script
#1242 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> It's made for test.
#1243 [23:33] <jeophsmith> I have already wiped the BIN
#1244 [23:33] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1245 [23:33] <jeophsmith> I am starting over.
#1246 [23:33] <Oerg866_> it's pretty sophisticated for such simple tasks tho
#1247 [23:33] <Oerg866_> I'd just have written a small C or PBCC script
#1248 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> My best risucraft mod ever? No falling sand.
#1249 [23:34] <jeophsmith> Ok, so I need to install GuiAPI for one of the mods, how do I do that?
#1250 [23:34] <ShaRose> drag it in the jar like every other mod
#1251 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> you do not know how to install mods? ._.
#1252 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> #risucraft
#1253 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Go there. It will help. A LOT.
#1254 [23:34] <ShaRose> don't bounce to us :(
#1255 [23:34] <ShaRose> no it won't
#1256 [23:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#1257 [23:34] <jeophsmith> Crus. Hold on, I am trying to determine the problem child.
#1258 [23:35] <ShaRose> trust me, as an op the most you'll get is 'drag it in the jar, delete meta inf'
#1259 [23:35] <ShaRose> we don't like explaining stuff like that :D
#1260 [23:35] <CrusaderDeleters> There's people who don't realize you need 7z/winrar, how to test for errors, how to do other bunch of stuff.
#1261 [23:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Or open instructions.txt
#1262 [23:36] <ShaRose> exactly
#1263 [23:36] <jeophsmith> And I presume Drag and drop Forge aswell
#1264 [23:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#1265 [23:36] <ShaRose> #Risucraft was always designed for development support
#1266 [23:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1267 [23:37] <CrusaderDeleters> There should be a mod-help section. Not designed for developers.
#1268 [23:37] <jeophsmith> Not like anyone else is using this IRC.
#1269 [23:37] <Lardman> Other people do use it :/
#1270 [23:37] <CrusaderDeleters> That's the thing. Sometimes, I just bs here. A lot.
#1271 [23:37] <ShaRose> not that I'm really aware of since nobody likes helping with the same problems over and over again
#1272 [23:37] <ShaRose> I could tell as soon as you said check to see if it's incompatible with modloader :P
#1273 [23:37] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm sure that 1.3 will help with the drag and drop feature.
#1274 [23:38] <Lardman> Sha are you saying it is boring to help people?
#1275 [23:38] <ShaRose> there are like... 2-3 mods that are incompatible
#1276 [23:38] * Lardman grabs his shotgun
#1276 [23:38] <ShaRose> Lardman it's boring to help with the same problems over and over and over again
#1277 [23:38] <jeophsmith> Yeah supposedly 1.3 is when the API gets Distrobuted
#1278 [23:38] <CrusaderDeleters> It will prolly have a list to pick mods from.
#1279 [23:38] <Lardman> Oh okay
#1280 [23:38] <Lardman> Yea I understand
#1281 [23:38] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Whenever I try to input Japanese through IME, it comes out as a box that says "BNQ" or something inside of ti
#1282 [23:38] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> it
#1283 [23:38] <Lardman> Go to the accounts section of support on the forums area
#1284 [23:38] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Can someone help me with that?
#1285 [23:38] <ShaRose> use utf8
#1286 [23:38] <ShaRose> oh, in minecraft?
#1287 [23:39] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Yes
#1288 [23:39] <ShaRose> I'm honestly not sure how well it supports ime
#1289 [23:39] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Maybe I'll buy a Japanese keyboard or something
#1290 [23:39] <ShaRose> or use romanji
#1291 [23:39] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> But I don't know if IME is the problem
#1292 [23:39] <ShaRose> see if you can copy and paste it in
#1293 [23:40] <ShaRose> actually
#1294 [23:40] <ShaRose> were you using kanji or hiragana / katakana?
#1295 [23:40] <jeophsmith> How about ExtraBiomesXL
#1296 [23:40] <Lardman> ^um what are you guys even talking about O.O
#1297 [23:40] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> That shouldn't matter
#1298 [23:40] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> And anyway
#1299 [23:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Lard, it's best if we never knew.
#1300 [23:40] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> The entire string
#1301 [23:40] <jeophsmith> Drag and drop...
#1302 [23:40] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Is collapsed into one character
#1303 [23:40] <ShaRose> That's.. odd
#1304 [23:40] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> It looks lika box with some letters that starts with a "B" inside
#1305 [23:41] <Lardman> Agree
#1306 [23:41] <ShaRose> I'm just going to assume mojang screwed something up with the unicode :P
#1307 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Lardman, what would you say is the most common problem you've encountered here in mchelp?
#1308 [23:41] <Lardman> Hey something I understand! "mojang"
#1309 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1310 [23:41] <Lardman> Hmmmm... Well I have only been on this Irc for about 2 days
#1311 [23:41] <Lardman> But on the forums
#1312 [23:41] <Lardman> In the past month
#1313 [23:42] <Lardman> this issue: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1235583-purchasing-problems-in-illinois-and-guam/
#1314 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's from moneybookers
#1315 [23:42] <Lardman> Yep
#1316 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> can't use it in illinois..
#1317 [23:42] <Lardman> I was the one to find that out :D
#1318 [23:42] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Tried copy pasting
#1319 [23:42] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> It didn't work
#1320 [23:42] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> It comes out blank
#1321 [23:42] <CrusaderDeleters> My most common? Graphics cards.
#1322 [23:42] <Lardman> I ninja'd Marc on the solution lol
#1323 [23:42] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> I can see it when others type it
#1324 [23:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Either that, or "My account isn't premium!" Leading toward "The bank wont let me spend my money!"
#1325 [23:43] <Lardman> ^ yep that one
#1326 [23:43] <ShaRose> TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH not sure tbh. Romanji is always still an option though I suppose :P
#1327 [23:44] <Lardman> Actually most people blame Mojang
#1328 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> They do.
#1329 [23:44] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Why wouldn't it be an option
#1330 [23:44] <Lardman> Yea
#1331 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> At the start, though. In the end? The bank.
#1332 [23:44] <Lardman> Yea, because I tell them it is the bank
#1333 [23:44] <ShaRose> I have no idea why it's not working for you, I haven't really looked at that code much
#1334 [23:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Lard, It's funny. We are bs'ing while sha and touhou is talking about japanese characters in minecraft.
#1335 [23:45] <Lardman> Yep!
#1336 [23:45] <CrusaderDeleters> The point where I see a second language, I throw my hands up and yelp "I'm done."
#1337 [23:46] <ShaRose> To be fair, it IS minecraft related since the specific issue is related to the chatbox not taking the characters correctly :P
#1338 [23:46] <CrusaderDeleters> I know. :)
#1339 [23:46] <ShaRose> CrusaderDeleters it's not like I understand japanese either :P
#1340 [23:46] <jeophsmith> Could someone show me to where I download the most recent version of Forge?
#1341 [23:46] <ShaRose> I just watch a lot of anime.
#1342 [23:46] <CrusaderDeleters> I watch like... two- no three... anime, if you count avatar.
#1343 [23:47] <ShaRose> http://minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/topic,5.0.html jeophsmith
#1344 [23:47] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> I have some anime in my back-log but I feel apathetic towards viewing it
#1345 [23:47] <Lardman> Any of you play Graphic novel games?
#1346 [23:47] <ShaRose> I have a lot of stuff downloaded and ready to go but I just haven't felt like watching any lately.
#1347 [23:48] <ShaRose> I should update MAL :S
#1348 [23:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I just watch sonic x on youtube. Avatar the last airbender on tv, and Legend of Korra on tv.
#1349 [23:48] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Visual Novel games*
#1350 [23:48] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> I've played a couple
#1351 [23:48] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Graphic novels are comics/manga
#1352 [23:49] <ShaRose> avatar owns
#1353 [23:49] <Lardman> Katawa Shoujo anyone?
#1354 [23:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Mmmhmmm. :)
#1355 [23:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#1356 [23:49] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Haven't played Katawa Shoujo
#1357 [23:49] <ShaRose> CrusaderDeleters did you see korra ep 7 yet?
#1358 [23:49] <ShaRose> Twas epic.
#1359 [23:49] <Lardman> That game is really good.
#1360 [23:49] <CrusaderDeleters> I've only seen episode one!!! D:
#1361 [23:49] <Lardman> It is sooo deep
#1362 [23:49] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Maybe if it had more yuri content
#1363 [23:49] <CrusaderDeleters> My damn saturday's taken up by work, and they don't play when I am available to the tv.
#1364 [23:50] <ShaRose> :O
#1365 [23:50] <ShaRose> Seitokai Yakuindomo OVA now says 4
#1366 [23:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Sucks. I've been looking forward to keeping on track of korra.
#1367 [23:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyhow, who thinks they are the oldest minecraft player? :3
#1368 [23:51] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Notch
#1369 [23:51] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Does
#1370 [23:51] <ShaRose> and ova 3 came out :O
#1371 [23:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Here* :3
#1372 [23:51] <CrusaderDeleters> And your answer was brilliant, touhou
#1373 [23:51] <jeophsmith> Can you show me to the EXACT place to download the newest forge DL?
#1374 [23:52] <Lardman> I am 8324
#1375 [23:52] <CrusaderDeleters> jeff, you have eyes.
#1376 [23:52] <Lardman> years old
#1377 [23:52] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> You just look
#1378 [23:52] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> 12
#1379 [23:52] <ShaRose> jeophsmith how was that page not clear
#1380 [23:52] <ShaRose> :S
#1381 [23:52] <Lardman> Tou who are you talking to?
#1382 [23:53] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> The bro who is 8324 years old
#1383 [23:53] <Lardman> Me?
#1384 [23:53] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Yes
#1385 [23:53] <CrusaderDeleters> I've been on the site for half a second, found two download links.
#1386 [23:53] <jeophsmith> exactly! WHICH ONE!
#1387 [23:53] <Lardman> How do I look 12? You have photos of me? OH god! PEDOPHILE!
#1388 [23:53] <CrusaderDeleters> any.
#1389 [23:53] <ShaRose> it tells you to download recommended :|
#1390 [23:53] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> When you shed the shackles of morality, you can do anything
#1391 [23:54] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Including engage in pedophilia
#1392 [23:54] <Lardman> O.O
#1393 [23:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually... You might want to download the dependencies, jeff.
#1394 [23:54] <ShaRose> Lardman he can speak japanese, nothing is impossible
#1395 [23:54] <Lardman> Anyhow, I am 16 not 12 :/
#1396 [23:54] <ShaRose> it's only modloader
#1397 [23:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh god. I love being locked up in the chains of moral views.
#1398 [23:55] <jeophsmith> http://lexmanos.no-ip.org:8080/job/Forge/Recommended/ I mean from here, there where!
#1399 [23:55] <jeophsmith> Is it under Artifacts?
#1400 [23:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Morality keeps me sane.
#1401 [23:55] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> What is sanity worth
#1402 [23:56] <CrusaderDeleters> yes, it is, jeff.
#1403 [23:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Sanity? It's worth your life.
#1404 [23:56] <CrusaderDeleters> It gives you the sense of not doing stupid things.
#1405 [23:56] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> And I follow the morals of instinct and society, not because I believe in them, but because I am programmed to respond to them
#1406 [23:56] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Even if I wasn't, I'd still follow them, as otherwise I might be locked up or executed
#1407 [23:57] <CrusaderDeleters> I follow what I believe is lawful. I will kill, I will torture, I will assassinate, if it is neccessary for human survival.
#1408 [23:57] <CrusaderDeleters> For the survival of mankind.
#1409 [23:57] <ShaRose> jeophsmith since you can't seem to see it, Direct downloads -> recommended -> client == http://goo.gl/C3kTH
#1410 [23:57] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Why is the survival of mankind so important?
#1411 [23:57] <CrusaderDeleters> *shrug* I just feel being alone is scary.
#1412 [23:57] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't like to live in a world by myself.
#1413 [23:58] <ShaRose> I'm kind of a part of mankind so I'm kind of biased but mankind is a good thing
#1414 [23:58] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> You could shoot yourself
#1415 [23:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1416 [23:58] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> What is "Good"
#1417 [23:58] <CrusaderDeleters> What is the meaning of "Life"
#1418 [23:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, life is where something acts upon itself without external forces.
#1419 [23:59] <TouhouIsTheBestGameEverHaHaHaH> Actually, life is pretty well-defined scientifically
#1420 [23:59] <ShaRose> ^
#1421 [23:59] <CrusaderDeleters> It is.