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#6 [00:21] <SirBreauxseph> hey guys, question.
#7 [00:21] <lemon-rev> yup
#8 [00:21] <SirBreauxseph> So I used to be able to play Minecraft just fine. Loved it. All of a sudden, I couldn't play. No idea what changed.
#9 [00:22] <Lardman> More info
#10 [00:22] <Lardman> Any error messages
#11 [00:22] <Lardman> does it crash?
#12 [00:22] <SirBreauxseph> I've deleted .bin and force updated, i've deleted the .minecraft and reinstalled, i've updated java, i've updated my drivers, nothing
#13 [00:22] <SirBreauxseph> getting to it haha.
#14 [00:22] <zkxs> does it blend?
#15 [00:22] <Lardman> Okay :)
#16 [00:22] <SirBreauxseph> it just loads up to where the title screen should be, but it's black.
#17 [00:22] * Lardman takes out a blender
#17 [00:22] <SirBreauxseph> does not blend, sorry.
#18 [00:23] <zkxs> SirBreauxseph: Are you familiar with command prompt?
#19 [00:23] <SirBreauxseph> more or less.
#20 [00:23] <zkxs> Try running minecraft from the command prompt; this will give us some error messages, hopefully
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#22 [00:24] <SirBreauxseph> alright, what's the command to run minecraft from cmd? haha :/
#23 [00:24] <zkxs> Is it the exe or the jar?
#24 [00:24] <SirBreauxseph> .exe
#25 [00:24] <Calinou> you can only run the .jar from commandline
#26 [00:24] <SirBreauxseph> should i dl jar?
#27 [00:25] <Calinou> well, you can still *run* the exe in commandline but it will not do anything useful.
#28 [00:25] <Calinou> yeah, it works fine on windows/mac even though it's marked for linux/other
#29 [00:25] <zkxs> in notchspace, linux/other = cross platform
#30 [00:25] <SirBreauxseph> i have windows 7, so should i just try and see if the .jar file works?
#31 [00:25] <Calinou> zkxs, yeah lol
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#33 [00:25] <Lardman> Calinou I thought I recognized your name! (I just searched you on MCF)
#34 [00:25] <Calinou> yes, you might have to use a .bat file to start the game (if that's what you wanted anyway)
#35 [00:26] <zkxs> yes. if you need a link, https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#36 [00:26] <Calinou> Lardman, hi
#37 [00:26] <Calinou> I'm not active on the forums anymore... not even support
#38 [00:26] <Calinou> I prefer helping people over irc :P
#39 [00:26] <Lardman> I saw :)
#40 [00:26] <SirBreauxseph> yeah, how do i run the .jar minecraft file?
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#42 [00:27] <zkxs> `java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar`
#43 [00:27] <Calinou> after minecraft.jar, you might put an username/password, like this:
#44 [00:28] <SirBreauxseph> aha, that was right under the dl link. haha.
#45 [00:28] <Calinou> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar "Username" "Optional password to play online" "Server to connect to"
#46 [00:28] <Calinou> password is optional, it can be skipped to choose any username (you'll not be authenticated though)
#47 [00:28] <Calinou> useful when login servers are down
#48 [00:28] <Calinou> it also skips the launcher and directly goes to the game.
#49 [00:29] <SirBreauxseph> "java is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, or batch file"
#50 [00:29] <zkxs> bleh
#51 [00:29] <zkxs> use this then:
#52 [00:29] <zkxs> :ts/launcher
#53 [00:29] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#54 [00:29] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#55 [00:30] <SirBreauxseph> zk, if i type that in it just starts a new line
#56 [00:31] <zkxs> Download this and doubleclick to run it: http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#57 [00:32] <zkxs> when I said :ts/launcher that was just to trigger WugBot
#58 [00:32] <SirBreauxseph> oh. hahaha.
#59 [00:32] <SirBreauxseph> and still blackscreen
#60 [00:32] <zkxs> now go to %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#61 [00:33] <SirBreauxseph> where's that (minecraft.log)? don't see it anywhere.. :/
#62 [00:33] <zkxs> in the .minecraft folder?
#63 [00:33] * lemon-rev zkxs see if he can run it from minecraft.net < login to the site and see if the game works via that
#63 [00:33] <zkxs> ^ this
#64 [00:34] <lemon-rev> ?
#65 [00:34] <SirBreauxseph> i'll try that real fast, don't think that works though. but hold up.
#66 [00:34] <lemon-rev> ok
#67 [00:34] <Calinou> lol @ minecraft from web browser
#68 [00:34] <Lardman> Calinou it solves a lot of problems :)
#69 [00:34] <lemon-rev> yea can be done , its a sorta alternative
#70 [00:34] <Calinou> usually causes more problems than it solves.
#71 [00:34] <SirBreauxseph> white screen
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#73 [00:34] <lemon-rev> java
#74 [00:34] <Lardman> Well we have reversed the color!!! Yea!
#75 [00:35] <Calinou> plus, if you only have 64 bit java you need 32 bit java if your browser is 32 bit
#76 [00:35] <Lardman> and yea as stated it is java
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#78 [00:35] <Calinou> 95% of browsers being 32 bit
#79 [00:35] <Calinou> 95% of browsers being 32 bit
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#81 [00:35] <SirBreauxseph> i have 32 bit java
#82 [00:35] <zkxs> what version?
#83 [00:35] <Calinou> install 64 bit java, delete the 32 bit one if you're on a 64 bit OS
#84 [00:36] <SirBreauxseph> 6.32
#85 [00:36] <Calinou> should be fine...
#86 [00:37] <zkxs> What does http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp give you?
#87 [00:37] <SirBreauxseph> 6 update 32..
#88 [00:38] <SirBreauxseph> and in my .minecraft folder theres: bin, resources, saves, stats, texture packs, lastlogin (unknown file type?), minecraft (text doc) and options (text doc)
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#90 [00:39] <zkxs> this is what you get for hiding file extensions
#91 [00:39] <zkxs> open the text document
#92 [00:39] <SirBreauxseph> Minecraft Launcher Started. Successfully redirected output to log file. Attempting to login as user: killabeau 27 achievements 182 recipes Setting user: killabeau, 3503249960732855327 LWJGL Version: 2.4.2 WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7 Attempting to use default windows plug-in. Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin Starting up SoundSystem... Initializing LWJGL OpenAL (The LWJGL b
#93 [00:39] <zkxs> use pastebin
#94 [00:40] <zkxs> http://pastebin.com/
#95 [00:40] <SirBreauxseph> mmkay haha. lot easier to read
#96 [00:40] <SirBreauxseph> http://pastebin.com/Jj0KkF9E
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#98 [00:41] <zkxs> That is curious
#99 [00:41] <zkxs> deleting bin didn't fix anything?
#100 [00:42] <SirBreauxseph> hasn't. trying again real fast.
#101 [00:42] <zkxs> what happens if you just rename the .minecraft folder to .minecraft.old ?
#102 [00:43] <SirBreauxseph> make it ".minecraft.old" ?
#103 [00:43] <zkxs> yeah
#104 [00:43] <SirBreauxseph> mmkay. let's see. (and yeah, nothing again from deleting bin)
#105 [00:46] <zkxs> This is curious in that there are absolutely no errors in the log file
#106 [00:46] <SirBreauxseph> renamed, did everything, still black screen
#107 [00:46] <SirBreauxseph> and that's weird.
#108 [00:47] <zkxs> I wonder if it is just java program in general, or something minecraft-specific
#109 [00:47] <SirBreauxseph> i fee like java, but i have no clue what that would be.
#110 [00:48] <zkxs> I can give you one of my old java projects if you want to check
#111 [00:49] <zkxs> http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/TheGame.jar
#112 [00:49] <SirBreauxseph> sure? i have no idea ha
#113 [00:49] <SirBreauxseph> damn i just lost ;)
#114 [00:49] <zkxs> :D YES!
#115 [00:50] <SirBreauxseph> haha what kind of sound is he even making? so yes, that works.
#116 [00:50] <zkxs> lol
#117 [00:51] <zkxs> every big project I made in that class (no pun intended) somehow ended up being randomly hilarious
#118 [00:52] <SirBreauxseph> definitely stuck on like level 4 or something :/ ha
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#120 [00:53] <zkxs> The moving spike blocks were programmed at 2 AM the day the project was due. I'm still not quite sure how they work...
#121 [00:53] <SirBreauxseph> ugh. so javas working. what is wrong uggggh.
#122 [00:53] <SirBreauxseph> and hahaha. nice.
#123 [00:54] <zkxs> Well, the log looks like minecraft is starting and ending normally...
#124 [00:55] <zkxs> you get the same problem with the exe, wugJar, and applet
#125 [00:55] <zkxs> Have you tried reinstalling java? I'm at a loss
#126 [00:57] <SirBreauxseph> yeah, and i've even tried different versions :/
#127 [00:57] <Lardman> That is really odd
#128 [00:57] <SirBreauxseph> i just don't understand what happened. it was working, then the next day it just wasn't.
#129 [00:57] <Lardman> Try to do a system restore
#130 [00:57] <Lardman> Only thing that could be possible
#131 [00:57] <Lardman> to reverse any changes done to your computer that may have caused it
#132 [00:57] <SirBreauxseph> but that was so long ago >.>
#133 [00:58] <Lardman> See if there was an automatic restore point recently
#134 [00:58] <zkxs> you could also try minecraft from another account. Sometimes issues are user-specific
#135 [00:58] <lemon-rev> SirBreauxseph can you do a directory check to see how big the folder is in .minecraft for us / goto .minecraft and on the actual directory and goto propites and tell us how big the folder is ?
#136 [00:58] <zkxs> * a computer account, not a minecraft account
#137 [00:58] <Lardman> Zkxs I was about to say
#138 [00:59] <SirBreauxseph> aight just a sec. lemme check .minecraft
#139 [01:00] <zkxs> We just made a new .minecraft, so that shouldn't be a problem
#140 [01:00] <lemon-rev> im just wondering if its like not downloading all the files
#141 [01:00] <SirBreauxseph> eh, i just deleted it all again like 5 mins ago. so redownloading it all now.
#142 [01:00] <lemon-rev> ok
#143 [01:00] <zkxs> does the game even download, or is it crashing at the splash screen?
#144 [01:01] <zkxs> apparently Y2K will happen again in 2038
#145 [01:02] <Lardman> how so?
#146 [01:02] <SirBreauxseph> it downloads fine, takes me to "news page" or w/e, then lets me log in (another weird thing, the buttons that say login and update or w/e don't show up...they're blacked out too)
#147 [01:02] <zkxs> 32 bit unix timestamps will overflow
#148 [01:02] <Magiobiwan> Lardman: Related to 32-bit.
#149 [01:02] <SirBreauxseph> but i log in, it loads real fast, then just black.
#150 [01:02] <Magiobiwan> Normal things will be fine.
#151 [01:02] <Magiobiwan> Calendars, the clock, etc will have issues.
#152 [01:03] <Lardman> Good thing I have 64 bit :)
#153 [01:03] <SirBreauxseph> and .minecraft is...7.12 MB
#154 [01:03] <lemon-rev> ??> SirBreauxseph win/dxdiag
#155 [01:03] <VoxelHead> SirBreauxseph: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#156 [01:03] <VoxelHead> SirBreauxseph: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#157 [01:03] <lemon-rev> ok ty SirBreauxseph :)
#158 [01:03] <zkxs> so, it seems to have all downloaded?
#159 [01:04] <SirBreauxseph> "windows cannot find 'win/dxdiag'
#160 [01:04] <zkxs> it is dxdiag
#161 [01:04] <lemon-rev> no, in start menu type in dxdiag
#162 [01:04] <zkxs> I suspect that he may be on XP?
#163 [01:05] <lemon-rev> well if he is i can still tell him how to go about doing that
#164 [01:05] <SirBreauxseph> windows 7
#165 [01:05] <lemon-rev> yea on the start menu theres a box you can type in
#166 [01:05] <zkxs> oh, I was wrong. I've only seen the blacked out buttons on XP
#167 [01:05] <SirBreauxseph> windows memory diagnostic?
#168 [01:05] <lemon-rev> hm,
#169 [01:05] <lemon-rev> nope
#170 [01:06] <zkxs> win+R will work if the start menu is being silly
#171 [01:06] <lemon-rev> what im trying to get you to get for us is a overall system spec of your computer
#172 [01:06] <SirBreauxseph> oh wait here we go, typed something wrong haha
#173 [01:06] <SirBreauxseph> alright, that's doing its thing.
#174 [01:06] <zkxs> :3 if everyone used os's with good CLI, we could just have people use /exec -o
#175 [01:07] <lemon-rev> ok so read the rest of what vox said and paste in pastebin
#176 [01:08] <SirBreauxseph> ahhh so much to copy ha.
#177 [01:08] <SirBreauxseph> http://pastebin.com/2b0EDDaJ
#178 [01:08] <SirBreauxseph> good luck
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#180 [01:09] <lemon-rev> ty
#181 [01:10] <SirBreauxseph> yup
#182 [01:13] <lemon-rev> SirBreauxseph disable your antivirus and disable firewall and try minecraft ?
#183 [01:13] <SirBreauxseph> k just a sec
#184 [01:17] <SirBreauxseph> nope, nothing. i guess my laptop just doesn't want me to play minecraft :(
#185 [01:17] <lemon-rev> SirBreauxseph have you another pc you can try and run it on ?
#186 [01:18] <SirBreauxseph> yeah. and i gave my friend the account info, and he was able to log on. so its just this one. ugh. so inconvenient haha.
#187 [01:19] <lemon-rev> hm, well everything was up to date or is uptodate should i say but i was thinking maybe your computer was blocking minecraft for some odd reason
#188 [01:19] <lemon-rev> but if you managed to disable both firewall and antivirus from running then yea
#189 [01:19] <lemon-rev> dang
#190 [01:19] <SirBreauxseph> everythings up to date. and yeah, idk.
#191 [01:19] <SirBreauxseph> bummer.
#192 [01:23] <zkxs> what gets me is that there are no errors
#193 [01:23] <zkxs> you have less errors that I do, and my game actually works
#194 [01:24] <SirBreauxseph> haha. #laptopfail
#195 [01:25] <zkxs> Well, I just go to sleep now. I hope you eventually get this figured out.
#196 [01:25] <zkxs> *must
#197 [01:26] <SirBreauxseph> alright. thanks for the help
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#205 [02:04] <zabuldog> hi there, could you tell me how long does it takes to get response from the minecraft support ? I've bought the game over two weeks ago, have some problems with my account and I'm trying to contact with someone from the support.
#206 [02:05] <Lardman> It can take a while
#207 [02:05] <Lardman> Also, what is your problem
#208 [02:06] <Lardman> This might answer your first questions
#209 [02:06] <Lardman> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#210 [02:06] <zabuldog> well it seems that my account is corrupted a little bit. I can login with the same credentials in two different browsers and see different mails in my profile page.
#211 [02:07] <Lardman> So there is more than one email linked to the account?
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#213 [02:07] <Lardman> And do you mean that you can be logged in on multiple clients with one account
#214 [02:07] <zabuldog> I guess I've registered myselfe somewhere in the past, then forgot about that and did it again recently. Then I've bought the game and have a premium status only attached to the latest email.
#215 [02:08] <Lardman> What page does it show multiple emails on?
#216 [02:08] <zabuldog> http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#217 [02:08] <zabuldog> for example
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#219 [02:09] <zabuldog> in opera i have my latest email in there, in chrome i can see my other email
#220 [02:09] <zabuldog> the same credentials
#221 [02:10] <zabuldog> i guess it's because i made my payment with the opera, maybe some cookies stored the proper values
#222 [02:10] <Lardman> Are you sure that you are logged into the same account
#223 [02:10] <zabuldog> with every other browser/computer I'm loggin in to the 'old' profile
#224 [02:10] <zabuldog> I'm pretty sure
#225 [02:10] <zabuldog> the same username/password
#226 [02:11] <Lardman> See if a simple email change will fix that
#227 [02:11] <Lardman> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#228 [02:12] <zabuldog> ok, I will - I just didn't want to broke some things even further :)
#229 [02:12] <Lardman> You won't :)
#230 [02:13] <zabuldog> just to be sure, I need to migrate my minecraft account to the mojang accont before I can change my email ?
#231 [02:13] <Lardman> I believe so
#232 [02:14] <Lardman> Yes that is right
#233 [02:14] <zabuldog> so there is the next problem: Error! You can only migrate your Minecraft account if you have bought Minecraft. Either buy Minecraft first, or just register for a new Mojang account.
#234 [02:14] <Lardman> Hmm hold on
#235 [02:15] <Lardman> You are not premium
#236 [02:15] <Lardman> Were you in the past
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#238 [02:16] <Guest___> crap, opera has crashed
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#240 [02:17] <Guest___> ok, zabuldog here
#241 [02:17] <Lardman> Okay
#242 [02:17] <zabuldog1> so, that's my case
#243 [02:18] <Lardman> Yea, you are not premium, just checked. Were you in the past
#244 [02:18] <Lardman> ?
#245 [02:18] <zabuldog1> i don't know wheter it's safe to reveal my credentials here
#246 [02:18] <zabuldog1> transaction id
#247 [02:19] <zabuldog1> Hi zabldog, Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! To play the game, visit http://www.minecraft.net/ and either download the game, or play it directly in your web browser. Your user name is zabldog Your transaction ID is xxxxxxxx If you ever forget your password, or want to change it, you can request a new one here: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp Thank you, Mojang
#248 [02:19] <Lardman> No one will need to see it except for people at Mojang
#249 [02:19] <zabuldog1> this is the content of the mail I received
#250 [02:19] <zabuldog1> except the transaction id of course
#251 [02:20] <Lardman> When you emailed Mojang what information did you give?
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#253 [02:21] <zabuldog1> I emailed them twice, gave them my account name/transaction id and some clues about my issues, it's been more or less week ago
#254 [02:21] <zabuldog1> I mean, I used the form on the help.mojang
#255 [02:21] <Lardman> Okay, just wait. They are really backed up on emails. Do not send any more in.
#256 [02:23] <zabuldog1> well, sure. I'm just a little bit surprised that with such a user base they don't came up with the right scale of customer service system
#257 [02:24] <zabuldog1> after all we payed for that as well, I guess :)
#258 [02:25] <Lardman> Yea, but they gained the user base so fast that they could barely keep up. They are starting to gain on it now though.
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#260 [02:30] <zabuldog1> hah, ok. Victims of their own success. I will wait then. Thank you Lardman for your time. Now it's my time to get back to work. Cheers !
#261 [02:31] <Lardman> ^How true ;-;
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#292 [06:32] <WestoverAirForceBase> i got a ?
#293 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> suitcase?
#294 [06:33] <WestoverAirForceBase> ?
#295 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> I give up, what have you got?
#296 [06:33] <WestoverAirForceBase> i whant to say hi
#297 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> it's ok, you can go ahead and say hi
#298 [06:34] <WestoverAirForceBase> Pay Phone By Maroon 5
#299 [06:35] <WestoverAirForceBase> ya
#300 [06:36] <WestoverAirForceBase> my minecraft name is SGNLawlor
#301 [06:37] <WestoverAirForceBase> Go to http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/1bef34043e8461721fd10b1df84b2d76
#302 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> You wouldn't be Daniel, would you?
#303 [06:38] <WestoverAirForceBase> no
#304 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> nup, just a wild guess
#305 [06:39] <WestoverAirForceBase> Go to this web http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/1bef34043e8461721fd10b1df84b2d76
#306 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> What for?
#307 [06:40] <WestoverAirForceBase> so we can talk and build on thir
#308 [06:41] <DiskDaemon> No thank you, this channel is not for advertising your server
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#311 [06:43] <WestoverAirForceBase> its not mine
#312 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> this channel is not for advertising servers
#313 [06:44] <WestoverAirForceBase> ik
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#316 [07:00] <SinZ> WestoverAirForceBase: point is, you dont advertise servers, posting links to it counts as advertising
#317 [07:02] <WestoverAirForceBase> okok
#318 [07:07] <WestoverAirForceBase> Eddie
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#331 [08:43] <awesomeman> Can Minecraft run on Windows 8 consumer preview?
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#334 [08:50] <Devedse> Does anyone know how to use the MC api to get the .png of the skin of a player?
#335 [08:50] <Devedse> Does anyone know how to use the MC api to get the .png of the skin of a player?
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#337 [08:59] <SinZ> Devedse: http://minecraft.net/skin/username.png
#338 [09:05] <Devedse> Does anyone know how to use the MC api to get the .png of the skin of a player? SinZ, did you answer on this?
#339 [09:09] <clarjon1> Devedse: why do you need the api?
#340 [09:09] <clarjon1> Devedse: just go to http://minecraft.net/skin/player_username_here.png
#341 [09:09] <clarjon1> Devedse: eg: http://minecraft.net/skin/clarjon1.png
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#347 [10:11] <Siepet> Hi, anybody?
#348 [10:12] <clarjon1> hi
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#355 [11:03] <Combat_wombat> Greetings, Is it still not possible to change Minecraft usernames?
#356 [11:03] <Necrodoom> yes
#357 [11:04] <Necrodoom> you must use a plugin that changes nick
#358 [11:04] <Combat_wombat> Will vanilla servers accept the new name or do the servers have to support the plugin?
#359 [11:05] <Necrodoom> you need to use bukkit
#360 [11:06] <Combat_wombat> lastly, does anyone know of a thread that goes into more detail on the things added to the new snapshot/snapshots? Jeb is never very detailed
#361 [11:06] <Combat_wombat> (on purpose I'm sure)
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#369 [11:26] <Morgoth> What is the best food to make when starting out?
#370 [11:27] <Morgoth> Survival Mode.
#371 [11:31] <AmberK> Whatever you find ...?
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#373 [11:32] <Morgoth> Can I eat flowers? What are they good for?
#374 [11:33] <Necrodoom> ..you serious?
#375 [11:33] <Necrodoom> just go here, please http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#376 [11:36] <Morgoth> hey thank!
#377 [11:36] <Morgoth> thanks*
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#379 [11:43] <nicboyman> Hello
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#392 [12:39] <Guest> hi, is it possible to make an irc server for my own minecraft server
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#396 [13:02] <MasterBlackFox> hey guys, im having trouble getting onto servers in minecraft multiplayer, what could be the cause of that?
#397 [13:02] <MasterBlackFox> hey guys, im having trouble getting onto servers in minecraft multiplayer, what could be the cause of that?
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#400 [13:05] <Calinou> MasterBlackFox, explain please? any error message?
#401 [13:05] <Calinou> check your firewall if you can't connect to any multiplayer server.
#402 [13:05] <MasterBlackFox> connection timed out: connect
#403 [13:06] <MasterBlackFox> ... damn havent thought of that one
#404 [13:06] <MasterBlackFox> though i never changed anything about that so i dont raelly know how
#405 [13:07] <Calinou> are you trying to connecting to servers that are currently running?
#406 [13:07] <Calinou> http://mcserverlist.net
#407 [13:07] <Calinou> ^ see this
#408 [13:07] <Calinou> try to connect to some random server there, it should work.
#409 [13:08] <MasterBlackFox> i tried to go onto the server my friend always goes on but it keeps giving me that while my friend can go on
#410 [13:09] <Calinou> he didn't portforward correctly, that's why
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#412 [13:09] <Calinou> he must forward the port 25565 in TCP (if he's using the default port, he should probably do unless he's running multiple servers)
#413 [13:09] <Calinou> he should also have the "server-ip" setting blank in server.properties.
#414 [13:10] <MasterBlackFox> ... i'll try to figure something out with him then, thanks for the help ^^
#415 [13:11] <Calinou> np
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#417 [13:12] <Zidein> hey
#418 [13:13] <Zidein> please try and connect to 82.116.89.11 on minecraft. need 2 test if port is open
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#421 [13:17] <Zidein> guys i need as many as possible to connect to 82.116.89.11 on minecraft. need 2 test if it laggs alot with many people!
#422 [13:17] <Scott> Zidein: try #smp
#423 [13:17] <Zidein> ty
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#426 [13:37] <MasterBlackFox> ook, me again, im trying to upload a skin to minecraft but it wont change
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#428 [13:41] <MasterBlackFox> nevermind, already figured it out
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#449 [15:15] <Lockhy> I don't know what email did I put and I can't remember with what email did i register my account... Is there a way i can change it? I really need help D:!
#450 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to contact Mojang
#451 [15:16] <Lockhy> How?
#452 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#453 [15:17] <Lockhy> Thanks! I hope I can change it :P
#454 [15:18] <MarcgX> or you can go there normal mine craft website
#455 [15:18] <MarcgX> minecraft.net
#456 [15:18] <MarcgX> And click on forgot email or forgot password.
#457 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Forgot password will send a password recovery link to the email address associated with the account
#458 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Forgot username will send a list of usernames that are associated with the email address you enter
#459 [15:19] <MarcgX> Oh Wait he forgot his email. My bad.
#460 [15:19] <Lockhy> Lol :P
#461 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> So, yup.
#462 [15:20] <Lockhy> It tells me to put my email... But i can't remember it D:!
#463 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Exactly, which is why you'll need to contact Mojang
#464 [15:21] <Lockhy> Ok :/
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#467 [15:24] <Lockhy> I hope they can change it :S
#468 [15:25] <Lockhy> Well see ya!
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#473 [16:08] <clarjon1> how does one forget their email o.o
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#475 [16:09] <Scott> clarjon1: some people have dozens of email addresses
#476 [16:09] <Scott> they create a new one every time they need one
#477 [16:10] <clarjon1> i use gmail and the +word trick :)
#478 [16:10] <clarjon1> clarjon1+suspectedspamsite@gmail.com
#479 [16:10] <Scott> I mainly use 2 email addresses but a lot of other addresses are piped into my account like management@ etc
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#483 [16:31] <WestOverAirForceBase> hey i got a ?
#484 [16:31] <WestOverAirForceBase> is Eddie on?
#485 [16:31] <Eddie> Hello
#486 [16:32] <WestOverAirForceBase> hey buddy
#487 [16:32] <Eddie> Hello.
#488 [16:32] <Eddie> How are you?
#489 [16:32] <WestOverAirForceBase> good
#490 [16:32] <WestOverAirForceBase> you?
#491 [16:32] <Eddie> I am fine thanks
#492 [16:32] <Eddie> !voice
#493 [16:33] <WestOverAirForceBase> ?
#494 [16:33] <Eddie> o/
#495 [16:33] <Scott> !flags Eddie +V
#496 [16:33] <Scott> hmmr
#497 [16:33] <WestOverAirForceBase> man
#498 [16:33] <Eddie> woman
#499 [16:33] <WestOverAirForceBase> hey im a man
#500 [16:33] <Scott> SAYS WHO?
#501 [16:34] <WestOverAirForceBase> brb
#502 [16:34] <Eddie> You said you had a question
#503 [16:34] <WestOverAirForceBase> back
#504 [16:34] <Eddie> wow!
#505 [16:35] <WestOverAirForceBase> ya my ? was if you was on
#506 [16:35] <Eddie> ah
#507 [16:36] <WestOverAirForceBase> it was if you was on
#508 [16:36] <Eddie> Yes yes I understood lol
#509 [16:50] <Eddie> I go afk
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#511 [16:55] <WestOverAirForceBase> man
#512 [16:55] <WestOverAirForceBase> any on?
#513 [16:55] <puffrfish> no men on here
#514 [16:56] <WestOverAirForceBase> you girl?
#515 [16:56] <WestOverAirForceBase> you girl?
#516 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Please don't do that here
#517 [16:57] <zkxs> ...just ask your question
#518 [16:57] <WestOverAirForceBase> i dont have a question
#519 [16:57] <zkxs> <WestOverAirForceBase> hey i got a ?
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#521 [16:57] <WestOverAirForceBase> ?
#522 [16:58] <WestOverAirForceBase> thats a long time
#523 [16:58] <WestOverAirForceBase> im helping
#524 [16:58] <Scott> hey WestOverAirForceBase, I can be whatever you want
#525 [16:58] <Scott> A girl, a cat, a horse, whatever gets your rocks off.
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#527 [16:59] <WestoverAirForceBase> like who
#528 [16:59] <Wellbone> Sup.
#529 [16:59] <WestoverAirForceBase> ?
#530 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> WestoverAirForceBase - If you're looking for help, please state your question
#531 [17:00] <elShoggotho> Got a problem: The Minecraft launcher doesn't connect to the web. I tried almost everything by now. Connection times out no matter what. I even re-downloaded everything.
#532 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> elShoggotho - Times out how?
#533 [17:00] <Wellbone> Got some trouble with spawn rates.
#534 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact error message you get?
#535 [17:01] <Wellbone> Not error, too many skeletons.
#536 [17:01] <Wellbone> And I have them low.
#537 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Chunk error, most likely.
#538 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Happens frequently when a chunk gets corrupted. Advised solution, delete chunk with a map editor like MCedit, and have minecraft regenerate it
#539 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#540 [17:02] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#541 [17:02] <elShoggotho> First a grey screen, doesn't load the splash. After trying to log in, it's "Can't connect to minecraft.net".
#542 [17:02] <Shocky3> surprise butt sex!
#543 [17:03] <WestoverAirForceBase> inapropriate
#544 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> !kb Shocky3
#545 [17:03] * GreyBot kicked Shocky3 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hocky3 :<Kicks:930>)
#546 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Damn bot
#547 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> elShoggotho - Operating system? Also, do you get any text in the grey box before you log in?
#548 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> \
#549 [17:03] <WestoverAirForceBase> ???
#550 [17:05] <elShoggotho> Windows 7 Ultimate x64. The text is some HTML and "Failed to update news", then "java.net.ConnectionException: Connection timed out: connect"
#551 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you have java 7 installed?
#552 [17:05] <elShoggotho> yes
#553 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you roll back to 6?
#554 [17:05] <elShoggotho> I already tried. Same issue.
#555 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried pinging minecraft.net?
#556 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Does http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/ load for you in the browser?
#557 [17:06] <elShoggotho> Thing is, I can connect just fine in my browser.
#558 [17:06] <elShoggotho> Yes it does.
#559 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. Something to do with a firewall or security software blocking the application from running then
#560 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Anything you know of that could be blocking it, or SSL authentication from java?
#561 [17:08] <elShoggotho> I set my firewall to accept all outgoing transfers. No changes.
#562 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you possibly check if uh..
#563 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> There's a malware that's commonly known to do this, one moment..
#564 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> ;seach knowledge
#565 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> ;search knowledge
#566 [17:09] <WugBot> Matches for "knowledge": rk
#567 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> :rk
#568 [17:09] <WugBot> rk: A specific spyware program called "Relevant Knowledge" is known to directly conflict with minecraft. Symptoms include failure of minecraft to download updates (either error messages or freezing while downloading).
#569 [17:09] <WugBot> rk: To check if you're affected, open the task manager (ctrl+alt+del) and search the list of processes for entries called "rlvknlg.exe". Relevant Knowledge can be uninstalled from add/remove programs.
#570 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Check task manager for that ^
#571 [17:10] <elShoggotho> Checking now. No such task.
#572 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Is it on the computer you're on right now?
#573 [17:10] <elShoggotho> yes
#574 [17:11] <zkxs> Could it be the host file, or would that affect the applet too?
#575 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. That was just me checking to see if your system's date and time are corret
#576 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> I haven't seen one that affects the news feed as well, since that pulls from a different website
#577 [17:11] <elShoggotho> I just tried to connect through MagicLauncher. No luck.
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#579 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Very weird. Can you...
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#581 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? login
#582 [17:12] <VoxelHead> login: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#583 [17:12] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#584 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Try the second link there
#585 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Let me know if it gaves you a bad login message
#586 [17:12] <Ipk> It does
#587 [17:12] <Ipk> For me
#588 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Ipk, that was for elShoggotho
#589 [17:13] <Ipk> Can someone help me?
#590 [17:13] <WugBot> Ipk: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#591 [17:13] <elShoggotho> Bad login
#592 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, your computer can obviously communicate with the login server then....
#593 [17:13] <Ipk> Whenever I try to play minecraft, it goes to a white screen
#594 [17:13] <Ipk> Please help
#595 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> I'd do a complete uninstall and reinstall of java, elShoggotho
#596 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Ipk - Has it ever worked before?
#597 [17:13] <Ipk> Yes many times
#598 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Ipk - Ever modded minecraft?
#599 [17:14] <Ipk> Nope
#600 [17:14] <elShoggotho> Just uninstalling all of JRE.
#601 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Ipk - Go into the downloaded launcher, before logging in, hit the options button. Hit Force update, then log in as normal.
#602 [17:15] <Ipk> downloaded launcher... huh?
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#604 [17:15] <zkxs> this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#606 [17:19] <WestoverAirForceBase> hey im back
#607 [17:21] <Morrolan> 'lo
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#609 [17:24] <WestoverAirForceBase> hey Eddie on?
#610 [17:25] <Eddie> I got back from a shower. Hi
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#613 [17:27] <Jackson> howdy ass
#614 [17:27] <Jackson> all
#615 [17:27] <Jackson> woops
#616 [17:28] <Jackson> grrrr...Kealper, you here buddy? I need some advice
#617 [17:28] <elShoggotho> I just uninstalled, then reinstalled all of Java. Connection still times out.
#618 [17:29] <Jackson> elShoggotho
#619 [17:29] <Jackson> I can try to help you
#620 [17:29] <elShoggotho> OK. Try.
#621 [17:30] <Kealper> advice, you say?
#622 [17:30] <Jackson> yessir
#623 [17:30] <Jackson> what os are you running elshoggotho?
#624 [17:30] <Jackson> kealper, I wanna rename my flash drive to x:
#625 [17:30] <elShoggotho> Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#626 [17:30] <Kealper> Jackson: you might be able to map it to X, but i don't think you can just make it magically be X
#627 [17:31] <Jackson> are there any special chars in your acc name?
#628 [17:31] <elShoggotho> no.
#629 [17:31] <Jackson> Kealper, no, like I want to have the drive letter be x:
#630 [17:31] <Jackson> I know how to do it traditionally, but I want it to be X: on every computer I access without having to reconfigure.
#631 [17:32] <Boreeas> /media/X:/
#632 [17:32] <Kealper> Jackson: i don't think that's possible
#633 [17:32] <Boreeas> Jackson: Not possible, every computer mounts the flash drive on its own
#634 [17:32] <Jackson> elShoggotho, have you successfully been able to use minecraft on said computer before
#635 [17:32] <elShoggotho> Yes.
#636 [17:33] <elShoggotho> Should run with full settings. Still does so when offline.
#637 [17:33] <Jackson> Boreeas / Kealper http://uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html any chance that could work?
#638 [17:34] <Jackson> elShoggotho, hmmm that is a bit outta my league tech help-wise. I'd ask Boreeas or Kealper
#639 [17:34] <Jackson> sorry :S
#640 [17:34] <Kealper> Jackson: it'd need to be installed on every computer you used the drive on, or it would default to the first free drive letter
#641 [17:35] <elShoggotho> Another thing: The "Connection timed out" message appears right away. According to my router's network monitor, Minecraft doesn't even attempt to connect.
#642 [17:35] <Jackson> Kealper, dammit!
#643 [17:35] <elShoggotho> Or it does, but the connection doesn't go out.
#644 [17:35] <Kealper> elShoggotho: have you tried playing in the browser version? are you using a custom launcher? do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#645 [17:36] <Jackson> #dafuq?
#646 [17:36] <Morrolan> Yep, there's a number of strings which look funny on most clients.
#647 [17:36] <elShoggotho> My antivirus and firewall should have no issues with it. Just deactivated the FW for another test.
#648 [17:36] <Morrolan> There's also one which gets drawn as a vertical line. ;)
#649 [17:36] <Jackson> Morrolan, I'm trying using Irssi and I am hating it.
#650 [17:36] <elShoggotho> brb
#651 [17:37] <Morrolan> Jackson - I never could get the hang of CLI IRC clients.
#652 [17:37] <Kealper> Jackson: irssi on Windows? ehh
#653 [17:37] <Morrolan> I miss being able to select a specific channel with a click of my mouse.
#654 [17:37] <Jackson> yeah, I'm getting aids as we speak from using this shiz
#655 [17:37] <Jackson> any ideas on what could be better?
#656 [17:37] <Morrolan> Oh well, to each his own. :D
#657 [17:37] <Morrolan> I'm using KVIrc, and really like it.
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#659 [17:37] <Morrolan> Apart from that, Quassel is supposed to be nice.
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#661 [17:38] <Morrolan> Quite a number of people use xchat / mIRC, not too fond of either.
#662 [17:38] <Jackson> xchat doesnt automatically identify to my knowledge
#663 [17:38] <Eddie> I am fond of you, though.
#664 [17:38] <Morrolan> Just try them out, and look which one you like best.
#665 [17:38] <Morrolan> Haha.
#666 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Sure it does Jackson
#667 [17:38] <Jackson> it does?
#668 [17:38] <elShoggotho> Problem solved. For some reason, the firewall suddenly started to block Minecraft, even though it's set to accept all traffic.
#669 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#670 [17:38] * Jackson googles it
#670 [17:38] <Kealper> \o/
#671 [17:39] <Kealper> the simple problems are the best problems
#672 [17:39] <elShoggotho> After over a year without problems!
#673 [17:39] <zkxs> I use xchat, and it auto-idents
#674 [17:39] <Jackson> ok noobier question: what is the benefit of having a program for 32x or 64x on a 64x OS
#675 [17:40] <Jackson> the program being a VERY light program
#676 [17:40] <Kealper> the x64 programs have access to more than 4 gigs of ram
#677 [17:40] <Kealper> but it also means that the x64 programs are going to use more ram, too
#678 [17:41] <Jackson> should I need to worry if I have 8gb?
#679 [17:41] <Kealper> no, they don't use that much more ram
#680 [17:42] <Jackson> ah ok. RAM related question, having a usb3 drive with usb port
#681 [17:42] <Jackson> would rediboost be a benefit?
#682 [17:42] <Morrolan> Eh, can't be compared to real ram.
#683 [17:43] <Jackson> I mean I can see why having it would be pointless with a usb 2 drive and such
#684 [17:43] <Kealper> even if it's a usb 3.0 flash drive, it all depends on the speed that the ram can read/write/access it's data
#685 [17:43] <Morrolan> It might be faster than having a cache file on the HD though.
#686 [17:43] <Morrolan> s/cache/proper expression
#687 [17:43] <Jackson> how about when you are in need of a small boost when you are rendering video shit?
#688 [17:44] <Jackson> (A friend with 2gb of ram asked me this)
#689 [17:44] <Kealper> uhh... again all depends on if your flash drive can read/write faster than your hdd, if it can then yes there would be a performance boost, if it can't then it would be a performance hit
#690 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> It's faster than a HDD, but usually slower than RAM.
#691 [17:45] <Morrolan> What's the practical speed you reach with USB3, actually?
#692 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Provided you get the good stuff
#693 [17:45] <Jackson> is there a free version of xchat?
#694 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Wiki says 5 Gbit/s
#695 [17:45] <Kealper> like... my flash drive has about a 4MB/s write speed, but my hdd has about a 70MB/s write speed... so if i tried doing that, then as soon as i ran out of ram and Windows tried using my flashdrive, it would be a huge performance decrease compared to letting Windows use the page file
#696 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> or 625 MB/s, compared to 60 with 2.0
#697 [17:46] <zkxs> Yes: xchat-wdk
#698 [17:46] <Jackson> lol macs still use usb2
#699 [17:46] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Hmm, that's pretty high.
#700 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Again, it'll depend on the flash memory's speed as well.
#701 [17:46] <Morrolan> So yea, in most cases using a (good) USB3 stick to expand one's RAM might be better than using the HDD.
#702 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> As well as any cable length
#703 [17:46] <Kealper> well yeah but the real question is how fast can the drive actually write.... sure USB 3.0 can be up to 625MB/s, but the memory in many flash drives are usually MUCH slower than that
#704 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> ^
#705 [17:46] <Omega_Guardian> with say a webcam, it needs to be usb 3.0 to be able to actually do proper 30 fps 1080p, the packaging is all lies though.
#706 [17:47] <Jackson> lol @ webcam
#707 [17:47] <Omega_Guardian> I haven't seen a usb3 one yet, but every usb 2 one I see says it can do HD. :P
#708 [17:47] <zkxs> Jackson: http://www.xchat-wdk.org/
#709 [17:47] <Omega_Guardian> with a little star, then in tiny print on the back side says HD = 1 fps 1080p. so basically a still image
#710 [17:47] <Kealper> Omega_Guardian: lies and propaganda lol... if your video is playing at more than like 400mbit/s then you've got other problems ._.
#711 [17:48] <Jackson> downloaded already, ty tho :D
#712 [17:48] <Kealper> i used xchat-wdk for a while
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#714 [17:48] <Jackson> fml, how do I paste things in irssi?
#715 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> middle mouse possibly?
#716 [17:48] <Kealper> that entirely depends on what console you're running it from
#717 [17:48] <Jackson> windows, launched from bat
#718 [17:49] <Kealper> right click > paste
#719 [17:49] <Jackson> time to
#720 [17:49] <Jackson> nop, no workie
#721 [17:49] <Kealper> no idea
#722 [17:49] <Morrolan> I really need a USB stick with attached siren.
#723 [17:49] <Kealper> ....wat? lol
#724 [17:49] <Jackson> lolwut?
#725 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Where did that come from?
#726 [17:50] <Kealper> ^
#727 [17:50] <Morrolan> Whenever I need it I have to search the house and any computer where it might be attached to. ;)
#728 [17:50] <Kealper> rofl
#729 [17:51] <Jackson> brbrb switching to non std infested client
#730 [17:51] <Kealper> the client isn't the problem... if you ran it through something like putty or another proper terminal emulator it would be fine lol
#731 [17:52] <Jackson> I hate the interface
#732 [17:52] <Jackson> not being about to click a name to message it
#733 [17:52] <Jackson> brb
#734 [17:52] <Kealper> it takes a lot of getting used to lol
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#737 [17:53] <tweety65> someone elp plz
#738 [17:53] <tweety65> help*
#739 [17:54] <Morrolan> Someone ask question plu.
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#741 [17:54] <Morrolan> plz*
#742 [17:54] <Jackson413> AHHHH SOO MUCH BETTER!!!
#743 [17:54] <tweety65> can someone help me please
#744 [17:54] <Kealper> Jackson413: lol
#745 [17:54] * Jackson413 came
#745 [17:54] <Morrolan> tweety65 - Ask your question.
#746 [17:54] <Morrolan> I think I need to work on my subtle hints.
#747 [17:54] <Kealper> lol
#748 [17:55] <tweety65> alright well my computer wasnt turning on. so i had to system restore then when it was done i download java and windows service pack 3 but now when i log in it stays at black screen plz help
#749 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Subtle around here, involves a 20 pound mallet and a titanium pot.
#750 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Video drivers up to date?
#751 [17:55] <tweety65> yeah
#752 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> And how do you know that?
#753 [17:55] <Jackson413> Kealper, so regarding that drive letter thing, how can I have a shortcut point to the correct path
#754 [17:55] <tweety65> cause i used the software that came with it.
#755 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> What software?
#756 [17:56] <tweety65> well, how can i check?
#757 [17:56] <tweety65> catalyst
#758 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> tweety65 - So, AMD/ATI video card then?
#759 [17:56] <tweety65> yeah
#760 [17:56] <zkxs> hopefully
#761 [17:56] <tweety65> ATI
#762 [17:56] <Jackson413> ahhh I remember having catalyst. good times.
#763 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Go check at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#764 [17:56] <tweety65> how do i check which one i have?
#765 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> try the Automatically detect and install
#766 [17:57] <tweety65> kk
#767 [17:57] <Jackson413> Kealper must be afk...
#768 [17:58] <tweety65> kk downloading.
#769 [17:58] <tweety65> i really hope this works cause i love this game :D
#770 [17:59] <tweety65> hm
#771 [17:59] <tweety65> express or custom?
#772 [18:00] <zkxs> express
#773 [18:00] <tweety65> kk
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#776 [18:01] <Huntero0o> any one here that can help me?
#777 [18:02] <Lardman> What is your problem?
#778 [18:02] <Huntero0o> when i load minecraft, i get this:
#779 [18:02] <Huntero0o> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#780 [18:02] <Huntero0o> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
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#782 [18:04] <Huntero0o> Do you know what it means, and what i have to do Lardman?
#783 [18:05] <Lardman> Have you updated your graphic cards?
#784 [18:08] <Ipk> Someone help me plz
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#786 [18:08] <Jackson413> would the world be a better place if all programs would be open source?
#787 [18:08] <Lardman> What is your problem?
#788 [18:08] <Jackson413> Huntero0o, wassup
#789 [18:08] <Jackson413> is this your first time running MC on said computer?
#790 [18:08] <Jackson413> Huntero0o, is this your first time using minecraft on this specific computer?
#791 [18:08] <Ipk> It always says you need java (TM)
#792 [18:08] <Huntero0o> yes it is
#793 [18:08] <Ipk> Even though I installed it
#794 [18:09] <Jackson413> did i send a lot of messages?
#795 [18:09] <Jackson413> vox just went jackshit on my ass when i was idling
#796 [18:09] <Lardman> Ipk uninstall java, and install java 6
#797 [18:09] <Lardman> You sent 3
#798 [18:09] <Ipk> I sent 3? Huh?
#799 [18:09] <Jackson413> what did I send?
#800 [18:09] <Lardman> yes
#801 [18:09] <Ipk> 3 what
#802 [18:09] <Ipk> :O
#803 [18:10] <Ipk> :(
#804 [18:10] <Jackson413> what were my last 3 messages? I can't see them in my history
#805 [18:10] <Ipk> Please help
#806 [18:10] <Ipk> :(((((
#807 [18:10] <Ipk> ;(
#808 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> lolwut
#809 [18:10] <Ipk> :'(
#810 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> Communications disaster
#811 [18:10] <Ipk> :(
#812 [18:10] <Ipk> :O
#813 [18:10] <Ipk> :(
#814 [18:10] <Jackson413> egad
#815 [18:11] <Huntero0o> <Jackson413> Huntero0o, wassup
#816 [18:11] <Huntero0o> (»Thu-23:08:48«) <Jackson413> is this your first time running MC on said computer?
#817 [18:11] <Jackson413> what were my last 3 messages anyone? vox went jackshit on my ass...
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#819 [18:11] <Ipku> PLEASE HELP
#820 [18:11] <Lardman> Ipk... the 3 was not to you sorry
#821 [18:11] <Ipku> Oh
#822 [18:11] <Lardman> Just uninstall java
#823 [18:11] <Lardman> Then install java 6
#824 [18:11] <Ipku> umm... ok
#825 [18:11] <zkxs> Jackson: Go look for yourself: http://sbnc.khobbits.co.uk/log/logs/minecrafthelp.htm
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#827 [18:12] <Ipku> How do I uninstall it? :P
#828 [18:12] <tweety65> didint work
#829 [18:12] <Lardman> JAckson413, are you using a response bot or something?
#830 [18:13] <tweety65> who was helping me?
#831 [18:13] <Ipku> NOBODY :P
#832 [18:13] <Ipku> :)
#833 [18:13] <tweety65> yeah
#834 [18:13] <Ipku> ;)
#835 [18:13] <Lardman> Tweety65 I can help you, Just tell me your problem
#836 [18:13] <tweety65> people were..
#837 [18:13] <tweety65> lard
#838 [18:13] <Ipku> lol
#839 [18:13] <tweety65> i was just helped
#840 [18:13] <tweety65> but it didint work.
#841 [18:13] <Lardman> Hold o
#842 [18:13] <Lardman> on*
#843 [18:13] <tweety65> tkk
#844 [18:14] <Ipku> loool
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#846 [18:15] <Lardman> Hmm... that is an odd problem
#847 [18:15] <tweety65> yeh
#848 [18:15] <Lardman> It is just when you turn off your computer?
#849 [18:15] <tweety65> no
#850 [18:15] <tweety65> its only for my mc
#851 [18:15] <Lardman> Oh! okay
#852 [18:15] <tweety65> when i try to turn my mc on
#853 [18:15] <tweety65> like log in
#854 [18:16] <Lardman> So you updated your graphics card and it did not work
#855 [18:16] <tweety65> yhe
#856 [18:16] <tweety65> yeah*
#857 [18:16] <Lardman> Try playing in browser
#858 [18:16] <tweety65> dont work
#859 [18:16] <Lardman> Hmmm.
#860 [18:18] <tweety65> any suggestions?
#861 [18:18] <Lardman> Two - have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder?
#862 [18:18] <tweety65> yeah
#863 [18:19] <Lardman> Okay
#864 [18:19] <tweety65> and i deleted java, reinstalled
#865 [18:19] <Lardman> Did you install 32 or 64 bit java?
#866 [18:19] <tweety65> 32.
#867 [18:19] <tweety65> im on 32 hats why
#868 [18:19] <tweety65> thats*
#869 [18:19] <Lardman> :/ odd
#870 [18:19] <tweety65> yeh
#871 [18:19] <tweety65> i know
#872 [18:19] <tweety65> yesterday it was working.
#873 [18:19] <tweety65> then it just stopped
#874 [18:20] <Lardman> Was anything changed?
#875 [18:20] <tweety65> nope
#876 [18:20] <Lardman> DO you have another account on your computer?
#877 [18:20] <tweety65> no
#878 [18:21] <Lardman> Create another windows user, login in to that and see if you can play on that account. It will determine if it is a user specific problem.
#879 [18:21] <tweety65> kk
#880 [18:21] <tweety65> brb
#881 [18:22] <tweety65> ..
#882 [18:23] <tweety65> user accounts isint even responding
#883 [18:23] <Lardman> Thats odd...
#884 [18:23] <tweety65> what the f.
#885 [18:23] <Lardman> Do a comp. restart. See if you can make a user then
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#887 [18:23] <tweety65> restart?
#888 [18:23] <tweety65> ive done it atleast 15 times.
#889 [18:24] <Lardman> SO, you cannot create another windows user?
#890 [18:24] <tweety65> nope.
#891 [18:24] <tweety65> honestly whats going on?... this is weird user accounts, minecvraft dont respong
#892 [18:24] <tweety65> respond
#893 [18:24] <Lardman> open control panel in administrator and see if you can
#894 [18:25] <tweety65> thats what i was doing
#895 [18:25] <Lardman> That is weird. It sounds like your windows partition may have gotten a little corrupted
#896 [18:25] <tweety65> how do i fix this?
#897 [18:25] <Lardman> If no one else can offer a better solution, I would say it needs to be fully reinstalled.
#898 [18:26] <tweety65> the computer?..
#899 [18:26] <tweety65> i just did that
#900 [18:26] <Lardman> yea....
#901 [18:26] <Lardman> Hold on
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#903 [18:26] <Lardman> Try run another game that uses Java
#904 [18:26] <tweety65> such as?
#905 [18:26] <tweety65> sec. ill try rsc
#906 [18:26] <Lardman> Okay
#907 [18:27] <AmberK> (alternatively you could do a science lab, which 99% of are made in jaava :P)
#908 [18:28] <Lardman> That too
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#911 [18:31] <tweety65> sec.
#912 [18:31] <tweety65> fetching updates
#913 [18:32] <tweety65> any easier games then rsc?
#914 [18:32] <tweety65> ?!
#915 [18:33] <Lardman> I have no idea... don't know many java games
#916 [18:33] <Lardman> you could try a science lab program
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#918 [18:34] <zkxs> Do I need to pull out the game from yesterday?
#919 [18:35] <Lardman|hw> Sure
#920 [18:36] <Lardman|hw> was it that platformer?
#921 [18:36] <zkxs> Yeah http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/TheGame.jar
#922 [18:37] <Lardman|hw> That game was pretty good
#923 [18:38] <zkxs> lol, thanks
#924 [18:38] <Lardman|hw> It filled some time last night between moderating and sleeping
#925 [18:38] <Lardman|hw> Then I youtubed for an hour :P
#926 [18:39] <Spudstabber> zkxs, what sort of game is it?
#927 [18:40] <zkxs> It is a platformer, and was my final for a java class (lol pun) I just finished
#928 [18:41] <Lardman|hw> Dem puns
#929 [18:41] <Jackson413> I lol
#930 [18:41] <Jackson413> I lol'd
#931 [18:41] <Spudstabber> Using any external libs?
#932 [18:41] <zkxs> nope, it is just that one jar file
#933 [18:42] <Spudstabber> Sweet
#934 [18:42] <Spudstabber> How are graphics done?
#935 [18:42] <zkxs> all Graphics2D stuff
#936 [18:42] <Spudstabber> Inhouse or ope-- nevermind
#937 [18:42] <zkxs> ?
#938 [18:43] <Spudstabber> Nothing, you answered my question
#939 [18:43] <Spudstabber> Ever tried using slick2d?
#940 [18:43] <zkxs> Never heard of it. But then again, my teacher was a moron
#941 [18:44] <Spudstabber> Lol.
#942 [18:44] <Spudstabber> It's a java game lib that wraps around lwjgl
#943 [18:45] <zkxs> My teacher wanted us to use the graphics.drawcrap() methods
#944 [18:45] <Spudstabber> .-.
#945 [18:45] <Spudstabber> Check out slick2d when you can
#946 [18:45] <zkxs> I promptly realized that was crap, and drew images instead
#947 [18:45] <Spudstabber> It's pretty awesome
#948 [18:46] <Spudstabber> Yeah, far nicer
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#952 [18:46] <Spudstabber> If you ever need tilemaps check out tiled
#953 [18:47] <zkxs> but then you have to mess with all those external libs, and all of lwjgls dlls and stuff
#954 [18:47] <Spudstabber> Yeah, but slick handles it nicely
#955 [18:47] <Spudstabber> It's the dlls that are slightly tricky
#956 [18:47] <zkxs> Yeah, I've had to mess with that recently with jinput
#957 [18:48] <Spudstabber> Yeah
#958 [18:48] <Spudstabber> I still like lwjgl though
#959 [18:49] <zkxs> The sound stuff strikes me as useful. To this date I haven't managed to get sound working on linux
#960 [18:49] <Spudstabber> OpenAL, gogogo
#961 [18:49] <zkxs> I blame PulseAudio, but it would still be nice to have, you know, actual cross platform java
#962 [18:50] <Spudstabber> Mhmm
#963 [18:50] <Spudstabber> Considering that's one of javas appeals
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#966 [18:58] <awesomeman> Can Minecraft run on Windows 8 Consumer Preview?
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#968 [18:59] <Lardman|hw> I would assume so. But I do not have any confirmation
#969 [18:59] <Lardman|hw> I would assume so. But I do not have any confirmation
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#972 [19:14] <Raslar21> i need help with the new snapshot
#973 [19:15] <Raslar21> i login and it goes to the updating minecraft screen but it doesn't go away though
#974 [19:16] <Raslar21> *pokes screen* hello?
#975 [19:17] <Raslar21> -_-
#976 [19:19] * NinjaKirby applauds sarcastically
#976 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> I may have been distracted by my tub of Ben & Jerry's Chocolate Fudge Brownie Ice Cream.
#977 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Which is a god send in the weather we've been having
#978 [19:21] <Lardman|hw> I may have been eating
#979 [19:21] <Lardman|hw> Back to hw :)
#980 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Hehe :P
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#987 [19:58] <guacamole> Anybody here?
#988 [19:59] <sammaelt> yes?
#989 [20:00] <guacamole> Well, I'm having troubles updating my minecraft client. I've just purchased the game and everytime I update it losses connection. The same thing happens if I just all out skip the update and try to play.
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#991 [20:02] <sammaelt> did you try forcing update guacamole
#992 [20:03] <guacamole> How do I do that?
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#995 [20:18] <guacamole> Yeah. Force update is not working.
#996 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Any redstone experts in the house? Just got a silly question
#997 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I need an Input Stabiliser that operates in the opposite manner, so it locks down supplying no power regardless of input.
#998 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> I can't get my head round it, I dunno if I can just have NOT gates either side of it
#999 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> Actually, yeah, I think that would work
#1000 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Well, I'll be, it works, never mind
#1001 [20:39] <Wug> bbl, going home for summer
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#1009 [22:32] <night98> i need help with a port that is in use
#1010 [22:34] <night98> port 25565 it wont let me use it
#1011 [22:34] <mickster04> night98: are you running a server already?
#1012 [22:34] <night98> yes
#1013 [22:34] <mickster04> night98: well then what's the problem
#1014 [22:34] <mickster04> if you are using it for one server then you can't expect to use it twice?
#1015 [22:35] <night98> every time i try to let players on it says port in use
#1016 [22:35] <mickster04> define "let players on it" how are you trying to do that?
#1017 [22:36] <night98> something is using the port beside the mc server
#1018 [22:36] <mickster04> once you have the server running what more do you want to do?
#1019 [22:37] <night98> can i fix it
#1020 [22:37] <mickster04> well is the minecraft server running?
#1021 [22:37] <mickster04> because that is what will be using the port?
#1022 [22:37] <night98> yes
#1023 [22:38] <night98> it says players cant connect
#1024 [22:51] <mickster04> there will only be one thing using that port, and that's minecraft... but you should be able to change the port in the config
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