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#9 [00:45] <dexray15> kealper you there today
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#11 [00:46] <dexray15> well anyway I was wondering if anyone knows if its possible to make a group like say admin in permissionsEX able to be unbannable/unjailable without opping them also
#12 [00:49] <CrusaderDeleters> dexray15: Two things
#13 [00:49] <CrusaderDeleters> 1: This isn't the correct irc channel,
#14 [00:50] <CrusaderDeleters> and 2: There's many different jail and ban plugins that work differently.
#15 [00:51] <dexray15> I'm only using the essentials ban/jail
#16 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> #smp might have more knowledge of such multiplayer issues
#17 [00:53] <dexray15> smp?
#18 [00:53] <dexray15> i mean
#19 [00:53] <dexray15> how do i get to that irc
#20 [00:53] <dexray15> i dont know how to use irc sorry
#21 [00:53] <dexray15> i dont know how to use irc sorry
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#23 [00:54] <CrusaderDeleters> click on #smp
#24 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> /join #smp
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#26 [00:55] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#27 [00:55] <Jackson413> I need moar advice bro, if you happen to be present
#28 [00:57] <Jackson413> GreyVulpine, you here mate?
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#30 [01:07] <Jackson413> kealper here yet buddy?
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#32 [01:26] <Jackson413> xales?
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#47 [04:09] <TheCrafer> heyhey, my question: How can set a warplimit?
#48 [04:09] <TheCrafer> my server is by nitrado Bukkit
#49 [04:12] <Calinou> #bukkit may be a better place to ask this question ;)
#50 [04:12] <TheCrafer> ah a bukkit server :D thx^^
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#52 [04:13] <Calinou> by the way: patience is a virtue, replies are not always instant.
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#55 [04:31] <kazagistar> hey anyone know how I can make the default spawn for my smp server in the nether?
#56 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> If you have hmod running you can juust use the /setspawn command
#57 [04:40] <kazagistar> alas tekkit would defeat the whole point of my theme
#58 [04:40] <kazagistar> *bukkit
#59 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> Head on over to #bukkit then, where they should know
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#61 [04:42] <kazagistar> no, I mean, I dont run bukkit, because I need to run Mystraft
#62 [04:43] <kazagistar> my idea is to start each player with a descriptive book, as well as a linking book to a nether base
#63 [04:43] <kazagistar> and people have to "find" the overworld, rather then just start there
#64 [04:46] <kazagistar> ... lol, I just realized I can solve it just by making an bedrock block around spawn with nothing but a portal
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#68 [05:10] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, hmod is dead since 1.5 year
#69 [05:10] <Calinou> (sorry)
#70 [05:13] <DiskDaemon> bugger
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#73 [05:36] <bblewitt> hey all, I ran a server to get all files for it and when I ran it again with the ip address that I use for servers and this popped up. http://pastebin.com/v0hxVK3t
#74 [05:36] <bblewitt> I have no other servers running on that ip address
#75 [05:39] <bblewitt> http://pastebin.com/v4iyKGhL (this is the properties if that helps)
#76 [05:47] <Viking667> sigh. Multiple problems with the 12w21b. Wonder how bad 12w21a was?
#77 [05:48] <bblewitt> SSP was fine never tried SMP
#78 [05:49] <Viking667> Apparently there were troubles with SSP in 21a, I've got it stashed aside here, but started with 21b. I'm seeing a couple of weird things, like
#79 [05:49] <Viking667> not being able to rename worlds from earlier saves.
#80 [05:49] <Viking667> ... spiders sinking through blocks, lighting being b0rk for about 30 seconds or 1 minute before lighting up the area...
#81 [05:50] <bblewitt> k umm do you know how to fix the problem with starting up the server
#82 [05:50] <Viking667> can't remember the other weirdism... ohhh yes, stuff simply not rendering, even though it's there.
#83 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> Yeah - this bug is most annoying "Sometimes when Saving and Quitting to Title, the World Save may corrupt. and you may spawn in a empty area."
#84 [05:50] <Viking667> nope, sorry. I haven't tried to do that.
#85 [05:50] <bblewitt> not had the rendering problems or lighting
#86 [05:51] <Viking667> DiskDaemon: I haven't had that, at least. Just the name reverts back to what it was before I changed it.
#87 [05:51] <Viking667> ... I tried the same thing on a newly-minted world, the namechange seems to have stuck.
#88 [05:51] <DiskDaemon> in #minecraft someone was having that issue just an hour or so ago
#89 [05:51] <bblewitt> I like creative inventory
#90 [05:51] <Viking667> ooooooo yeah.
#91 [05:51] <DiskDaemon> is that a crossover from the xbox version?
#92 [05:52] <Viking667> I must say, I've been looking for that.
#93 [05:52] <bblewitt> exactly
#94 [05:52] <Viking667> .... or something like it. Now, will there be a Survival version?
#95 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> in time
#96 [05:52] <bblewitt> I just wished they did it on pc but mostly for survival lol
#97 [05:53] <Viking667> I've even been looking for someone to do a mod that replicates the xbox360 interface...
#98 [05:53] <Viking667> but nobody seems to have put one out yet.
#99 [05:54] <bblewitt> umm it would be very hard to make with all the different recipes + other mod recipes
#100 [05:55] <Viking667> I do grant that, yes.
#101 [05:55] <DiskDaemon> recipe book already exists, and even works with other mod recipes too
#102 [05:55] <Viking667> that's in NEI, isn't it?
#103 [05:56] <bblewitt> NEI is a TMI + recipe book + addons that someone added
#104 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> I haven't dealt much with NEI. I was thinking of Rusigami's one at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v125-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#105 [05:56] <Viking667> mmmm. And in my opinion, NEI has the measure of TMI, frankly.
#106 [05:56] * Viking667 shrugs.
#106 [05:57] <Viking667> it's just a pity it needs both ModLoader AND ModLoaderMP and Chicken{somethingorother}
#107 [05:57] <Viking667> ahh, chickencode
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#109 [05:58] <bblewitt> umm NEI needs: Modloader and the chicken core that he has made
#110 [05:58] <Viking667> ... weird. I thought it needed ModloaderMP too?
#111 [05:58] <bblewitt> no most mods now don't use modloader mp anymore
#112 [05:59] <leopik> when i try to connect ot server i have an error "Failed to verify username:
#113 [05:59] <leopik> when i try to connect ot server i have an error "Failed to verify username"
#114 [06:00] <Viking667> what's your minecraft username?
#115 [06:00] <leopik> leopik
#116 [06:01] <Viking667> hmmm.
#117 [06:01] <leopik> google doesn't help
#118 [06:01] <Viking667> You've paid up for minecraft, haven't you?
#119 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> !paid leopik
#120 [06:02] <leopik> some people say, that it's auth server problem
#121 [06:02] <leopik> !paid notch
#122 [06:02] * AuBot kicked leopik from #minecrafthelp (Reason: eopik :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#123 [06:02] <Viking667> ahhh. I just got the same response from the webpage.
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#125 [06:02] <DiskDaemon> blimey
#126 [06:02] <leopik> i'm here again)
#127 [06:03] <leopik> !paid
#128 [06:03] <Viking667> Everything seems fine.
#129 [06:03] <Viking667> are you running your own server? Or is this server being run by someone else?
#130 [06:04] <leopik> someone else
#131 [06:04] <leopik> but connect to my server i can
#132 [06:04] <Viking667> what version are they running? Do you know?
#133 [06:04] <leopik> server, i'm trying ot connect has offline-mode=false
#134 [06:04] <leopik> minecraft 1.2.5
#135 [06:05] <leopik> !paid viking667
#136 [06:05] <Viking667> "trying TO connect"
#137 [06:05] <leopik> :)
#138 [06:05] <Viking667> that's because viking667 isn't my minecraft name, n00b
#139 [06:05] <leopik> can you help me withm my problem?
#140 [06:05] <leopik> !paid noob
#141 [06:05] <Viking667> I'm trying.
#142 [06:05] <leopik> !paid herobrine
#143 [06:06] <Viking667> but if you keep doing that, you may not end up long in here for me to help
#144 [06:06] <Viking667> Is a random user allowed to connect to this ... server you have trouble with?
#145 [06:07] <leopik> no, if i change name in MinecraftSP i have the same problem
#146 [06:08] <Viking667> well, yeah. That would kind of figure.
#147 [06:08] <Viking667> You have to be a premium customer (i.e. you've paid) to connect to most multiplayer servers.
#148 [06:09] <Viking667> so. do you have an IP I can connect to?
#149 [06:09] <Viking667> Incidentally, ModLoaderMP is required for NotEnoughItems.
#150 [06:10] <leopik> emm
#151 [06:10] <leopik> i just tried to connect and i haven't this problem
#152 [06:10] <Viking667> ... reading off the very first post of the relevant minecraftforum.net
#153 [06:10] <leopik> WTF?
#154 [06:10] <Viking667> leopik: well done. Play on, kind sir.
#155 [06:10] <bblewitt> for what version of it though because I have current 1.2.5 version and all I need is modloader and the chicken core
#156 [06:11] <bblewitt> for SSP idk for SMP
#157 [06:11] <Viking667> "Not Enough Items (NEI) 1.2.2.2 for [1.2.5]" is what it says on the webpage here.
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#160 [06:12] <Viking667> I can give a link here, if that's allowed....
#161 [06:13] <Viking667> www.minecraftforum.net/topic/909223-125-smp-chickenbones-mods/
#162 [06:16] <Viking667> anyhow, it looks like leopik has no trouble any more.
#163 [06:24] <Viking667> ... aaaaand, it's high time I left.
#164 [06:25] <leopik> aaaaarggh
#165 [06:25] <leopik> i have this problem again
#166 [06:25] <leopik> ru-craft.net
#167 [06:25] <Viking667> ugh.
#168 [06:25] <leopik> when i try to connect
#169 [06:25] <leopik> - failed to verify
#170 [06:26] <bblewitt> umm it seams you cannot win with verifying
#171 [06:27] <leopik> sorry
#172 [06:27] <leopik> this server has special client
#173 [06:27] <Viking667> heh. NOW you tell us...
#174 [06:28] <Viking667> But for what it's worth, I also get "Failed to verify username", and I most certainly paid.
#175 [06:29] <Viking667> It could be that ru-craft.net can't get to the session server, for whatever reason.
#176 [06:29] <bblewitt> I have a problem with my server and that is http://pastebin.com/rbP2cw2s
#177 [06:30] <Viking667> hm. Windows or Linux?
#178 [06:30] <Viking667> ... or mac?
#179 [06:31] <bblewitt> windows
#180 [06:31] <Viking667> And you're not running multiple servers?
#181 [06:31] <bblewitt> nope
#182 [06:31] <Viking667> and you're starting up the server bare?
#183 [06:32] <Viking667> have you checked your server.properties file to see what address/port you've got in there?
#184 [06:32] <bblewitt> ya
#185 [06:32] <Viking667> and what's that then?
#186 [06:33] <Viking667> whoops, you've hidden it.
#187 [06:33] <bblewitt> http://pastebin.com/mm1c6zwR
#188 [06:33] <bblewitt> that is the propities and the ip is my compter one so I have hidden it
#189 [06:34] <bblewitt> well it is my public ip address
#190 [06:34] <Viking667> humour me for a minute. Where you have "Ben's", replace that ' with something else...
#191 [06:35] <Viking667> i.e. The World Of Ben
#192 [06:35] <bblewitt> k let me see
#193 [06:35] <Viking667> It shouldn't matter, but java could be throwing for some weird reason.
#194 [06:35] <Viking667> and, is the MACHINE on that IP, or is that IP actually routed througha wireless/wired router?
#195 [06:36] <Viking667> i.e. do you have a 192.168.xx.yy class IP?
#196 [06:37] <bblewitt> umm I have changed that ' and it did not work, the ip is from what is my ip
#197 [06:38] <leopik> !help
#198 [06:38] <leopik> !tutorial
#199 [06:39] <Viking667> bblewitt: try changing the port.. i.e. to 25566 or 25564
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#201 [06:56] <Viking667> Okay. I'm out of here. Night, all.
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#204 [07:09] <Chris> which part of the ACT are you from?
#205 [07:09] <lemon-rev> lol
#206 [07:09] <lemon-rev> SOuth
#207 [07:09] <Chris> north here :P
#208 [07:09] <Chris> you set off my staker script
#209 [07:09] <Chris> [21:08:36] <*GeoIP*> lemon-rev is from the ACT! (Ping Chris!)
#210 [07:09] <lemon-rev> Tuggers almsot and not directly in
#211 [07:10] <Chris> about 5 minutes from belco here
#212 [07:10] <lemon-rev> 15 mins from tuggers / 5 to 10 from woden
#213 [07:11] <lemon-rev> so how old are you chris
#214 [07:11] <Chris> 15
#215 [07:11] <lemon-rev> ok 35
#216 [07:11] <lemon-rev> whats the oldest computer game you rember playing
#217 [07:12] <Chris> uuuuuhhhhh
#218 [07:12] <Chris> I don't even/
#219 [07:12] <lemon-rev> lol
#220 [07:12] <lemon-rev> i bet you do
#221 [07:13] <Chris> I really don't remember
#222 [07:13] <lemon-rev> ok if not what is the eariest computer game you do rember playing
#223 [07:14] <Chris> I have no idea XD
#224 [07:15] <lemon-rev> you cant rember your best old game that you might have keept going back to ?
#225 [07:15] <Calinou> inb4 minecraft
#226 [07:15] <lemon-rev> hahahahaa
#227 [07:15] <Chris> I was considering asking if that counted, as it's graphics look older than the internet
#228 [07:16] <lemon-rev> hahahahahahha, well it does look older but since it runs on modern computers i dont think i would cont that as a first time game, but its additive nether the less
#229 [07:17] <Chris> Windows Pinball! :D
#230 [07:17] <lemon-rev> dang, ok
#231 [07:17] <lemon-rev> fair enough
#232 [07:17] <Chris> then the online checkers came after
#233 [07:18] <lemon-rev> so you started out with the simple games then, nothing like a 2d platformers or 3d shooter like doom ?
#234 [07:19] <Chris> uh, you know that I first started using computers when I was like 5, right? No way in hell I'd be allowed anywhere near a shooter
#235 [07:19] <lemon-rev> lol, get away i would allow a 2 year old near doom :P
#236 [07:19] <lemon-rev> oh, dang for strict perents
#237 [07:19] <Calinou> lol
#238 [07:20] <Calinou> lemon-rev, doom != 3d
#239 [07:20] <Calinou> 2.5d ;)
#240 [07:20] <lemon-rev> 2.5d ? now im lost ?
#241 [07:20] <lemon-rev> 2.5 years you where ?
#242 [07:20] <Calinou> ...
#243 [07:20] <Calinou> google
#244 [07:20] <lemon-rev> for ? what when it came out or when you played it ?
#245 [07:23] * Chris totally stalks lemon-rev by IP address
#245 [07:23] <lemon-rev> go ahead please :P
#246 [07:47] <Chris> there's not much more stalking that can be done though
#247 [07:54] <leopik> !register
#248 [07:55] <leopik> !login
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#252 [08:09] <CartoonFace> i need help, a server problem. when i join my main server i always use it stops at the downloading terrain.. all other server are fine any help?
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#257 [09:00] <sheppycider123> hey does anyone know why my MC keeps crashing? The clien opens to the login screen, but if I try to play it Blackscreens and crashes
#258 [09:02] <sheppycider123> Here's the error: # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d218, pid=4040, tid=2196 # # JRE version: 7.0_04-b22 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (23.0-b21 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [atio6axx.dll+0xd218] DrvSwapBuffers+0xb8 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by de
#259 [09:03] <sheppycider123> http://pastebin.com/ExqQEcfZ
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#262 [09:26] <ChaosGR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGauWaFGf4&list=UUBCqtRSQmgSD0TmvKexzwyw&index=1&feature=plcp
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#271 [10:32] <Tecness> Hi all, noob question. How do I add more positions of power to my server? Like, training admin, admin, lead admin, owner, ect, with their own group of commands that they can use? I have AdminCMD,Citizens,Essentials,Gods,GriefPrevention,Netstats,War, and Vault plugins
#272 [10:43] <Morrolan> Use a permissions manager.
#273 [10:44] <Morrolan> bPermissions, PermissionsEx are the ones I know of.
#274 [10:44] <Morrolan> #bananacode if you need support with bPermissions, and the channel for PermisssionsEx is something like #pex or #permissionsex I believe
#275 [10:44] <Morrolan> The later it is.
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#278 [11:10] <Tecness> Thanks
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#301 [14:12] <AxeI> Anyone here?
#302 [14:13] <AxeI> Ok, how do I find the server adress of my locally run SSP server? (In the newer snapshots..)
#303 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> ..If it's SP, it's not a server, but problably 127.0.0.1
#304 [14:14] <Morrolan> The internal IP you can get by opening a command prompt and typing in "ipconfig", it's the one listed as "IPv4 address"
#305 [14:14] <AxeI> Since the new snapshots have locally ran SSP, that lets other join. I'll test that IP.
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#307 [14:15] <AxeI> Ipconfig gave me nothing.
#308 [14:15] <Morrolan> "nothing"?
#309 [14:15] <AxeI> Do I have to enable cheats?
#310 [14:15] <Morrolan> Not ingame.
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#312 [14:15] <Morrolan> Are you on Windows?
#313 [14:15] <AxeI> Yes.
#314 [14:15] <Morrolan> Hit windows+R, type in "cmd", hit enter.
#315 [14:16] <Morrolan> In the console which pops up, enter "ipconfig"
#316 [14:16] <Morrolan> without quotes, that is.
#317 [14:17] <AxeI> Nope, that adress Isn't working.
#318 [14:17] <AxeI> What I'm trying to do is: In the new snapshot, other players can join your SSP game. I'm trying to find the IP my friend needs to join my game.
#319 [14:18] <Morrolan> Well, in case your friends aren't on the same network they will have to use your external IP, and you will have to portforward.
#320 [14:18] <Morrolan> The external address you can get from here: http://ipchicken.com/ , as for portforwarding, consult your router's manual.
#321 [14:19] <AxeI> I think the server is already online.
#322 [14:19] <Morrolan> I'd assume so.
#323 [14:19] <Morrolan> Still, you have to forward the neccessary ports and give them your external address.
#324 [14:19] <AxeI> Okay. Thanks.
#325 [14:19] <AxeI> Okay. Thanks.
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#327 [14:19] <Morrolan> necessary*
#328 [14:20] <Morrolan> I wonder whether he'll be able to pull it off.
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#344 [15:17] <forgetful_coder> Hello all. How would I got about deleting all the chunks outside of a given radius in mcedit?
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#346 [15:20] <Morrolan> I don't think MCEdit offers such a function natively.
#347 [15:20] <Morrolan> Might be that there are scripts which do that htough.
#348 [15:20] <Morrolan> though*
#349 [15:21] <forgetful_coder> I could delete all the .mca files so long as I delete the right ones couldn't I?
#350 [15:21] <Morrolan> Indeed you could.
#351 [15:21] <Morrolan> There's en explanation on the wiki how coordinates get mapped to file names
#352 [15:21] <forgetful_coder> I did read that but I didn't really understand it. :-/
#353 [15:23] <Morrolan> take the coordinates of the chunk, divide them by 32, remove the decimal places.
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#355 [15:24] <forgetful_coder> okay so one of the coordinated that my house is on is X72, Y61 and Z290
#356 [15:24] <Morrolan> Actually, my explanation isn't correct for negative numbers.
#357 [15:24] <Morrolan> Take the coordinates, divide by 32, take the next lowest integer
#358 [15:24] <forgetful_coder> my house's coord's are all positive
#359 [15:25] <forgetful_coder> so 72 / 32 is 2.25, so 2?
#360 [15:25] <Morrolan> Yep.
#361 [15:25] <Morrolan> and 290/32=9.0625, so 9
#362 [15:25] <forgetful_coder> okay
#363 [15:25] <Morrolan> Oh, and make a backup, in case you delete the wrong ones.
#364 [15:26] <forgetful_coder> of course
#365 [15:26] <forgetful_coder> I'll do that now
#366 [15:26] <Morrolan> Also, mind you that, theoretically you should take the coordinates of the chunk your house is in, and not the house's coordinates. But practically this shouldn't make any difference.
#367 [15:26] <Morrolan> For the record: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunk#Finding_Chunk_Edges
#368 [15:27] <forgetful_coder> so what do I do with the 2 and 9?
#369 [15:28] <Morrolan> the chunk with your house will be in r.2.9.mcr
#370 [15:28] <forgetful_coder> I don't see that file in the region folder
#371 [15:29] <Morrolan> Oh, wait, we made a rather silly mistake.
#372 [15:30] <Morrolan> We have to use the coordinates of the chunk, and not the actual "normal" coordinates.
#373 [15:30] <Morrolan> Each chunk is 16x16, so from coordinates 0 to 15 is chunk 1, from 16 to 31 is chunk 2 etc.
#374 [15:31] <Morrolan> Now taking those chunk coordinates, dividing it by 32 and taking the next lowest full number gives the name of the file.
#375 [15:32] <NinjaKirby> ... sounds like you are suddenly deleting *a lot* of Chunks
#376 [15:32] <Morrolan> Hey, instead of doing annoying maths, take a look at this: http://dinnerbone.com/minecraft/tools/coordinates/
#377 [15:32] <Morrolan> NinjaKirby - Hmm? Each region file contains multiple chunks, yea.
#378 [15:33] <forgetful_coder> okay I'll take a look at that thanks
#379 [15:34] * Morrolan prods GreyVulpine
#379 [15:34] <Morrolan> Could you add a factoid with a link to http://dinnerbone.com/minecraft/tools/coordinates/ under some keyword where I'll find it again?
#380 [15:38] <forgetful_coder> According to that page, I had to delete everything except r.0.0.mca
#381 [15:41] <forgetful_coder> thanks Morrolan
#382 [15:41] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
#383 [15:41] <Morrolan> If you stumble across dinnerbone, give him a cookie, he's the one behind that tool. :D
#384 [15:41] <forgetful_coder> I'll do that
#385 [15:45] <NinjaKirby> I liked the original File Format method for it's flexibility on chunk repair, to the point every chunk had it's own file. Messy as hell, but useful.
#386 [15:46] <NinjaKirby> Saved me a lot of time with a corrupt map once, being able to selectively replace "rewound" chunks with a backup map.
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#388 [15:47] <NinjaKirby> DopeGhoti helped me a lot with that, don't see him speaking in here so much now :/
#389 [15:49] <Morrolan> Busy with life I guess. ;)
#390 [15:49] <Morrolan> I used to be more active as well, I guess that is the case for others as well. :)
#391 [15:49] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, tis a good thing, why get caught up on a Game when there is Life.
#392 [15:50] <Morrolan> To be honest, being busy with life is rarely something ejoyable.
#393 [15:50] <Morrolan> enjoyable*
#394 [15:51] <Morrolan> Okay, it might be later on when you've been married for ages, have children and whatnot, but this doesn't apply for many in here I guess. ;=
#395 [15:51] <Morrolan> ;) *
#396 [15:51] <Morrolan> Mostly it's having loads of exams, being busy with work, looking for an appartement or similar.
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#399 [15:54] <forgetful_coder> In the nether, is there anything above the bedrock ceiling?
#400 [15:55] <DigitalReaper> no
#401 [15:56] <forgetful_coder> I didn't think so
#402 [15:56] <NinjaKirby> Morrolan: I feel I have so much to say about that response, but this is hardly the place, heh
#403 [15:57] <NinjaKirby> Doesn't have to be said anyway
#404 [15:57] <Morrolan> Eh, as long as none needs help, talk about whatever you want. ;)
#405 [15:57] <Morrolan> Unless I wouldn't like the response.
#406 [15:57] <Morrolan> Then don't. :P
#407 [15:57] <NinjaKirby> lol, not gonna bash or anything, nay fear
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#409 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> "Our terms and conditions allow us to raise prices in line with inflation so that we can cover our business costs. This means that you won't be able to leave your contract early as a result of this change", yeah, beautiful Three, gotta love the fine print huh.
#410 [16:06] <Calinou> forgetful_coder, nope, but you can build up to layer 256 since 1.2
#411 [16:07] <Calinou> can be used as a nether flatmap :D
#412 [16:07] <Calinou> you can go there in surival multiplayer, using the teleportation quirk
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#415 [16:11] <TTT2114> my computer used to run minecraft but then we updated norten internet security and now my computer won't run minecraft
#416 [16:11] <forgetful_coder> hahahahaha
#417 [16:11] <TTT2114> thanks
#418 [16:12] <Calinou> answer: don't use norton?
#419 [16:12] <forgetful_coder> ^
#420 [16:12] * Calinou is currently on linux, anyway. 8)
#420 [16:12] <Calinou> not my main computer though
#421 [16:12] <TTT2114> can't, my parents have to have it on the computer
#422 [16:13] <TTT2114> i tried redownloading minecraft but thata didn't do a thing
#423 [16:13] <Calinou> get "real parents" then...
#424 [16:13] <Calinou> today's people on the internet = "i don't get it"
#425 [16:14] <forgetful_coder> when you say you can't play MC, do you mean it won't start or that because Norton is so bloated that MC runs at 2FPS?
#426 [16:14] <Calinou> TTT2114, disable any firewalls you have temporarily, try starting minecraft, should work.
#427 [16:14] <TTT2114> ok
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#429 [16:21] <TTT> i tried deactivating the firewalls and minecraft still wont run
#430 [16:24] <TTT> it does say something when it kickes me off, do u want to see it
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#432 [16:27] <forgetful_coder> has anyone noticed that minecraft doesn't properly resize when using windows' snapping feature?
#433 [16:27] <TTT2114> ok i changed the firewall and minecraft still kickes me off
#434 [16:29] <TTT2114> something then opens in note pad called hs_err_pid3992
#435 [16:31] <Calinou> forgetful_coder, works fine for me
#436 [16:31] <Calinou> what OS?
#437 [16:31] <forgetful_coder> win 7
#438 [16:31] <Calinou> updated LWJGL?
#439 [16:32] <forgetful_coder> I'm using whatever is shipped with 1.2.5
#440 [16:32] <Calinou> LWJGL 2.4.2 then, latest is 2.8.3
#441 [16:32] <Calinou> you might try updating it, quite involved: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#442 [16:33] <Calinou> shouldn't be too hard as long as you don't pick the linux files instead of the windows versions :P
#443 [16:34] <forgetful_coder> I'll try that
#444 [16:34] <forgetful_coder> heh
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#450 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> Oh my god, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD
#451 [17:18] <NinjaKirby> BBC's current news headline is just horrific, and the text description for the Video is just...
#452 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> I feel like crap, sitting in this comfy chair doing nothing but looking on.
#453 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> I can kinda see why America like to go World Police mode sometimes, because if they could have prevented that at the expense of little else, it would have been worth it.
#454 [17:21] <Morrolan> I feel like I'm missing something.
#455 [17:21] <Morrolan> Oh, right, the headline!
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#457 [17:23] <Morrolan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18221461 this?
#458 [17:24] <NinjaKirby> Aye
#459 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> I dunno if we're a bit desensetised by now, "People dying, yeah, happens all the time", but a bunch of Kids Shot or hit by Artillary - Why? :/
#460 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> World is retarded.
#461 [17:27] <Morrolan> The free market will fix it!
#462 [17:27] <Morrolan> Err, wrong topic.
#463 [17:27] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, I shouldn't have brought that topic in here, I'd just like people to read it, and not walk away with a "Meh".
#464 [17:28] <Morrolan> As I said earlier, feel free to bing up any topic you want in here, as long as it's not against the channel's rules, and none is in need of help currently.
#465 [17:28] <Morrolan> The "Err, wrong topic" was about my generic response in regards to economic models. ;)
#466 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> Right.
#467 [17:29] <Calinou> lolbbc
#468 [17:29] <Morrolan> As for that BBC report, I know what you mean, if "we" could stop it we should do so.
#469 [17:30] <Morrolan> However, so far it rarely worked out well. ;)
#470 [17:30] <Calinou> how to avoid bbc: live in france
#471 [17:30] <NinjaKirby> Why avoid the BBC?
#472 [17:31] <NinjaKirby> And point taken Morrolan, it's just a shame so many innocent people have to die before things are even remotely in order.
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#474 [17:35] <ghostfire> hey everyone, just a question, are u allowed to use hamachi with minecraft? reason being im at uni and my accommodation controls all the port forwarding and gives us no access at all. so using hamachi to host a small server for me and friends is the only way.
#475 [17:35] <ghostfire> would i get banned or my friends? we all have premium accounts btw
#476 [17:35] <lukegb> you won't get banned, but it's likely to be really slow.
#477 [17:35] <Morrolan> You many use Hamachi, there's no rule against it. :)
#478 [17:36] <Morrolan> However, some of Hamachi's feature might lead to severer issues, but if it works, go ahead.
#479 [17:36] <Morrolan> severe*
#480 [17:36] <ghostfire> ok thanks :)
#481 [17:36] <lukegb> I'd suggest (though I'll probably go unheard) that you find someone kind enough to host a server for you somewhere sensible. If you have no money, then... yeah, Hamachi's the only way.
#482 [17:37] <lukegb> Good luck.
#483 [17:37] <Juze> That ^
#484 [17:37] <Juze> Also, hi luke
#485 [17:37] * lukegb hides from Juze's rant in that other channel.
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#486 [17:37] <Morrolan> If your university's IT guys like Minecraft then you might be able to convince them of opening a port. ;)
#487 [17:37] <ghostfire> u 100% sure u cant get banned using it? as ive heard some ppl have used it to play minecraft without premium :S?
#488 [17:38] <Morrolan> These two aren't related. :)
#489 [17:38] <lukegb> We're 100% sure.
#490 [17:38] <Juze> Rant in wha-
#491 [17:38] <lukegb> Juze: AFFILIATE ALL THE THINGS.
#492 [17:38] <ghostfire> ive tried to ask for a port forward just said no, not allowed lol
#493 [17:38] <lukegb> Doesn't really surprise me, to be honest.
#494 [17:38] <Juze> Hamachi is not required for "cracked servers" aka offline mode to play with non-premium members
#495 [17:39] <Juze> For using Hamachi, your account will never get banned from Minecraft
#496 [17:39] <Juze> It's a perfectly legal software
#497 [17:39] <lukegb> Hamachi offends me, but it works fine.
#498 [17:39] <ghostfire> oh, i didnt know im kinda new to minecraft u see. and accommodation's internet settings is out my hands lol
#499 [17:39] <Juze> You can't really ever get banned from Minecraft
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#501 [17:39] <Juze> Only may be if your account would have been compromised, shrug
#502 [17:40] <ghostfire> ah yeah
#503 [17:40] <Juze> Well, something like MCBans would only affect
#504 [17:40] <ghostfire> just wanted to know as we all have paid accounts, and didnt wanna find out it bans us lol
#505 [17:41] <Juze> The only thing that can ban you from other servers (globally) is MCBans, and that is if numerous servers using MCBans will find you griefing them or otherwise doing harm
#506 [17:41] <Juze> You'd still be able to join the servers without MCBans
#507 [17:41] <Morrolan> Respectively, now that it's released, MCBlockIt.
#508 [17:41] <Morrolan> And MCBouncer, though in a different way.
#509 [17:41] <ghostfire> lol
#510 [17:41] <Morrolan> But using Hamachi is pretty harmless Minecraft-wise. ;)
#511 [17:41] <ghostfire> we are all new so that wouldnt affect us, only want a server to build on without ppl saying its getting wiped etc
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#513 [17:42] <Juze> 10 diemonds and golden vhost plz
#514 [17:42] <ghostfire> ;o
#515 [17:42] <ghostfire> lol
#516 [17:42] <Juze> Completely unrelated.
#517 [17:42] <Morrolan> The day IRC has coloured hostmasks, I'm out. :P
#518 [17:42] <Juze> Morrolan: Rizon has those
#519 [17:43] <Morrolan> Argh.
#520 [17:43] <ghostfire> ha ;p thanks for the help everyone btw. much apreciated
#521 [17:43] <Juze> Trivial mention, Buxville is on Rizon network
#522 [17:43] <Juze> Err, shameless double advertising
#523 [17:43] <Morrolan> "Home to many high-profile websites such as 4chan, eRepublik, and more." <- okay, chances of me ever visiting that network are small anyway.
#524 [17:43] <Juze> I'll stick with Esper <3
#525 [17:43] <ghostfire> seeya guys :) thanks again
#526 [17:43] <Morrolan> Cya.
#527 [17:43] <Juze> You're welcome ghostfire
#528 [17:44] <ghostfire> :)
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#530 [17:44] <Morrolan> University my ass, judging by this guy's English he is neither old nor smart enough. ;)
#531 [17:44] <Morrolan> But enough with slagging him off, it's mean after all.
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#535 [17:59] <Morrolan> ??< smp/servers
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#538 [18:01] <TheWyatt2012> I got a problem with the site. everytime I attempt to get on it I get a 504 gateway timeout
#539 [18:01] <Lardman> minecraft.net?
#540 [18:01] <TheWyatt2012> my friends are able to access it
#541 [18:01] <TheWyatt2012> yes
#542 [18:01] <Lardman> Hold on
#543 [18:01] <Lardman> I wil put a solution in paste bin
#544 [18:02] <Lardman> are you on windows?
#545 [18:02] <TheWyatt2012> Vista
#546 [18:02] <Lardman> okay
#547 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: I'm still here, just.. busy (:
#548 [18:05] <Lardman> http://pastebin.com/UvFATHs2
#549 [18:06] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - While you're here, feel like changing the link to a non-existent forum thread to http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ in smp/servers ?
#550 [18:06] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - While you're here, feel like changing the link to a non-existent forum thread to http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ in smp/servers ?
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#552 [18:16] <TheWyatt2012> I'm not seeing 127.0.0.1 www.minecraft.net
#553 [18:16] <TheWyatt2012> only 127.0.0.1 localhosts
#554 [18:16] <TheWyatt2012> localhost*
#555 [18:18] <Lardman> Can you paste what you see on pastebin
#556 [18:20] <TheWyatt2012> http://pastebin.com/u8pZaD5B
#557 [18:20] <Lardman> can you post what is in your hosts file? Not what I put on pastebin
#558 [18:21] <TheWyatt2012> http://pastebin.com/wUK19kpJ
#559 [18:24] <Lardman> the hosts file is fine... Hmm
#560 [18:28] <TheWyatt2012> do I just delete the localhosts bit?
#561 [18:28] <Lardman> you can try, but it will probably not do anything
#562 [18:29] <Lardman> cTHat ussually fixes the problem
#563 [18:29] <Lardman> See if using a diffrent browser will fix oit
#564 [18:29] <Lardman> it*
#565 [18:29] <TheWyatt2012> tried
#566 [18:29] <TheWyatt2012> IE9 nor Chrome are working
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#568 [18:49] <Seditec> my minecraft client crashing while starting up i have java and jdk installed i am on windows 7 32 bit with a ati radeon xpress 200 what is happening
#569 [18:49] <Seditec> ?
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#572 [19:04] <Magiobiwan> Seditec, Probably a graphics driver issue.
#573 [19:04] <Magiobiwan> Seditec, You're PROBABLY using the WDDM driver, which doesn't have OpenGL support.
#574 [19:07] <Seditec> how do i fixx it?
#575 [19:08] <Magiobiwan> Get the manufacturer's driver.
#576 [19:08] <Magiobiwan> g AMD Radeon xPress 200 Windows 7 32-bit driver
#577 [19:08] <Magiobiwan> Wrong bot command...
#578 [19:09] <Magiobiwan> !google AMD Radeon xPress 200 Windows 7 32-bit driver
#579 [19:09] <Magiobiwan> Err
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#581 [19:09] <Morrolan> Don't believe we've got any such bot in here.
#582 [19:09] <Magiobiwan> !g AMD Radeon xPress 200 Windows 7 32-bit driver
#583 [19:09] <Morrolan> You'll have to do it the old fashioned way.
#584 [19:09] <Magiobiwan> Bleh
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#586 [19:10] <Magiobiwan> Seditec, is it a Desktop or a Laptop?
#587 [19:11] <Seditec> so i have to download ati cata control panel and its a deskto[
#588 [19:11] <Magiobiwan> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#589 [19:11] <Seditec> desktop*
#590 [19:11] <Magiobiwan> Just run that.
#591 [19:11] <Magiobiwan> It'll find and install the driver for you.
#592 [19:11] <Magiobiwan> And, you do want to use the Catalyst Control Center.
#593 [19:12] <Magiobiwan> It works a lot better.
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#601 [21:02] <|Anthony|> is it possible for the client to have a glitch that shows a player when pressing TAB, but /list doesn't?
#602 [21:03] <|Anthony|> cause thats my situation atm
#603 [21:03] <|Anthony|> jmcgo40 is the player showing when i press TAB, but not in /list
#604 [21:04] <|Anthony|> last i checked, that player connected for bout 3 minutes last night... just browsing
#605 [21:04] <|Anthony|> last i checked, that player connected for bout 3 minutes last night... just browsing
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#610 [21:31] <RockCraft> hello
#611 [21:31] <RockCraft> anyone here?
#612 [21:31] <RockCraft> ...
#613 [21:31] <Lardman|afk> yes :)
#614 [21:31] <RockCraft> .um how do i change my name
#615 [21:31] <RockCraft> on irc
#616 [21:31] <RockCraft> im now RockCraft
#617 [21:31] <Lardman|afk> it is /nick
#618 [21:32] <hi> hmm...
#619 [21:32] <hi> cool lol
#620 [21:32] <hi> thx
#621 [21:32] <Lardman|afk> you welcome :)
#622 [21:32] <Lardman|afk> Voxel :/
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#628 [21:41] <Nicholasmc09> how do i become a irc operator for my IRC server
#629 [21:41] <Lardman|afk> for your irc channel?
#630 [21:41] <Nicholasmc09> yes
#631 [21:41] <Lardman|afk> You have to ask the original founder of the channel to op you
#632 [21:41] <Nicholasmc09> how do i do that?
#633 [21:41] <Nicholasmc09> i am
#634 [21:42] <Nicholasmc09> i own the channel
#635 [21:42] <Nicholasmc09> i made it on MCForge
#636 [21:42] <Nicholasmc09> how do i op myself?
#637 [21:42] <Nicholasmc09> how do i op myself?
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#639 [21:43] <Lardman|afk> the channel is what?
#640 [21:43] <Lardman|afk> :/
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#642 [21:50] <|_ocke3> weat'
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#644 [21:55] <timriley> hi
#645 [21:55] <timriley> im trying to set up a server for minecraft classic... how do i do this
#646 [21:56] <timriley> ??
#647 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Log into minecraft.net, go to the multiplayer option for classic
#648 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Find the server file, launch it with a .bat file
#649 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Port forward as necessary
#650 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Log into game. Play
#651 [21:57] <timriley> thanks
#652 [21:58] <timriley> does it work for mac>?
#653 [22:00] <timriley> im new to this
#654 [22:00] <timriley> i did the command like the .txt file said
#655 [22:00] <timriley> but now what?
#656 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Erm, you need to launch it a different way on a mac
#657 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Going to need a .sh script instead of the windows batch file
#658 [22:04] <timriley> the text file says run this "java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer" in terminal
#659 [22:04] <timriley> the text file says run this "java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer" in terminal
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