#MinecraftHelp > 2012-05-27
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#2 [00:39] <Dan> how can i get an Ender Dragon to spawn
#3 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ender_Dragon
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#43 [07:08] <Skipsgoldenpig> hey
#44 [07:10] <Skipsgoldenpig> can someone help me becuz my minecxraft wont even open to the login screen
#45 [07:11] <Me4502> ...
#46 [07:11] <Me4502> I can help you spell and use grammar
#47 [07:11] <lemon-rev> Skipsgoldenpig when did that start happing ?
#48 [07:13] <Skipsgoldenpig> when i got my computer fixed i played it for like an hour then it jus stopped :(
#49 [07:14] <lemon-rev> hm
#50 [07:14] <lemon-rev> Skipsgoldenpig try going to java.com < and making sure you have the lastest drivers
#51 [07:15] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok but i only have 0.99 GB RAM but i'll try the java
#52 [07:16] <lemon-rev> ok a gig of ram should be enough
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#54 [07:17] <Skipsgoldenpig> i think i had the wrong java but i dunnp
#55 [07:17] <Skipsgoldenpig> dunno?
#56 [07:17] <Calinou> open command line/terminal, type java -version
#57 [07:18] <Skipsgoldenpig> umm its installing
#58 [07:18] <Skipsgoldenpig> estimated time is 6 mins
#59 [07:19] <Calinou> *______* don't use online installer
#60 [07:19] <Calinou> also, install 64 bit java if you're on a 64 bit OS.
#61 [07:19] <Skipsgoldenpig> ino its installing on my computer
#62 [07:20] <Calinou> if you have "estimated time" you're probably using online installer
#63 [07:20] <Calinou> use the offline installer
#64 [07:20] <Skipsgoldenpig> how do i cjheck wat OS i have 2007 windows office tools
#65 [07:20] <Skipsgoldenpig> oh so how do i install it offline?
#66 [07:21] <lemon-rev> you can
#67 [07:23] <Skipsgoldenpig> i did the cmd thing and it shows stuff like error occured
#68 [07:24] <Skipsgoldenpig> java/land/noclassfounderror
#69 [07:25] <lemon-rev> Skipsgoldenpig ok, can you delte your java folder and reinstall it from that offline mode if thats what you have
#70 [07:25] <Calinou> "i have 2007 windows office tools"...
#71 [07:25] <Skipsgoldenpig> im downloading the offline one now but how do i delete it?
#72 [07:26] <Calinou> Skipsgoldenpig, control panel > "uninstall software" or whatever you call it
#73 [07:26] <lemon-rev> ill look, you running win7 ?
#74 [07:27] <Skipsgoldenpig> u mean add or remove programs?? Calinou?
#75 [07:27] <Skipsgoldenpig> and lemon if u were talkin to me i have windows xp
#76 [07:27] <lemon-rev> ok i have xp as well
#77 [07:27] <lemon-rev> C:\Program Files\Java
#78 [07:27] <lemon-rev> kill java
#79 [07:28] <Skipsgoldenpig> wat do u type that into??
#80 [07:28] <Me4502> Lol
#81 [07:28] <lemon-rev> say your computer
#82 [07:28] <lemon-rev> or
#83 [07:29] <lemon-rev> add remove / control pannel
#84 [07:29] <Skipsgoldenpig> oh ther top bar thing? i did and 2 folders showed up
#85 [07:29] <lemon-rev> start / control pannel / add & remove programs and remove java
#86 [07:29] <Skipsgoldenpig> ive got 2 java things do i remove both?? ive removed 1
#87 [07:31] <lemon-rev> you can remove both
#88 [07:32] <lemon-rev> just finnish downloading and isntall the offline mode your getting now
#89 [07:32] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok i doid and itts downloading into my downloads still :/
#90 [07:32] <lemon-rev> ok, just wait for it now
#91 [07:32] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok :) thnks sooo much
#92 [07:33] <lemon-rev> np
#93 [07:33] <Skipsgoldenpig> im gonna stay on help incase somewthing goes wrong :)
#94 [07:34] <lemon-rev> np
#95 [07:34] <lemon-rev> all good
#96 [07:35] <Skipsgoldenpig> how can i private message you?
#97 [07:35] <lemon-rev> hm, what about
#98 [07:35] <Calinou> avoid PMing people unless it's really needed.
#99 [07:36] <Calinou> it's: /msg <nick> <message>
#100 [07:36] <Calinou> another way of making private messages without opening a window: /notice <nick> <message>
#101 [07:36] <Calinou> useful for one-line PMs ;)
#102 [07:36] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok thnks :)
#103 [07:37] <Skipsgoldenpig> and lemon nothign realy but its downloadied into my downloadeds so i double clicked it and said run is tht wat i shud have done
#104 [07:37] <lemon-rev> correct
#105 [07:38] <Skipsgoldenpig> it says stuff about the download failing :(
#106 [07:38] <lemon-rev> hm, can you tell us the erro your gettting ?
#107 [07:39] <lemon-rev> did the download for offline mode complete ?
#108 [07:40] <Skipsgoldenpig> no it didnt start :( it jus says the wizard was interuppted before java (TM) 7 update 4 could be completely installed
#109 [07:40] <lemon-rev> hm, try not to install java 7 i think it might still be beta
#110 [07:40] <lemon-rev> java i think is like 6.4
#111 [07:41] <Skipsgoldenpig> and i tried to open minecraft and it says this application requires java enviroment 1.5.0
#112 [07:41] <lemon-rev> yes
#113 [07:42] <Skipsgoldenpig> so wat do i do now?
#114 [07:42] <lemon-rev> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#115 [07:42] <lemon-rev> ill tell you in a sec
#116 [07:42] <lemon-rev> vers 7 update 4 hm, well according to the site, that is
#117 [07:42] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok thnks
#118 [07:42] <lemon-rev> i dont know why it wont install via your computer though it should be installing
#119 [07:43] <Skipsgoldenpig> its veryifying installation
#120 [07:43] <lemon-rev> ok
#121 [07:43] <Skipsgoldenpig> it says plugins are required to view stuff on tht page
#122 [07:44] <Skipsgoldenpig> and then i clicked the download button and it brings me to 7.4 and sry for bein such a pain
#123 [07:44] <Calinou> lemon-rev, java 7 is released but still unstable ;)
#124 [07:45] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok so do i doewnload it?
#125 [07:45] <lemon-rev> it should be good if you get it stright from java.com
#126 [07:46] <Skipsgoldenpig> i do
#127 [07:46] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok thnks
#128 [07:46] <lemon-rev> good luck
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#130 [07:46] <Calinou> Skipsgoldenpig, are you on a 64 bit OS?
#131 [07:47] <Calinou> (to check: control panel > system information/whatever you call it)
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#133 [07:48] <Skipsgoldenpig> calinou how do u know??
#134 [07:48] <Calinou> what I said...
#135 [07:48] <Skipsgoldenpig> ohh im sry didnt see it
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#137 [07:50] <Skipsgoldenpig> sysetem:Microsoft windows xp, proffesional,version 2002, service pack 3
#138 [07:51] <Skipsgoldenpig> so wat do i do now
#139 [07:51] <lemon-rev> ok
#140 [07:52] <lemon-rev> in control pannel can you see a java console at all ?
#141 [07:52] <Skipsgoldenpig> nope
#142 [07:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#143 [07:52] <lemon-rev> so what happens if you goto java.com and try and download from there, you mgiht need to reboot
#144 [07:53] <Skipsgoldenpig> well its downloading into downloads again buti s taking forever
#145 [07:53] <Calinou> Skipsgoldenpig, it seems unlikely you have a 64 bit os
#146 [07:54] <Skipsgoldenpig> yea calinou ano :/ so how do i get 1 do i have to pay
#147 [07:56] <lemon-rev> skip you dont have to pay for java
#148 [07:56] <Skipsgoldenpig> yea ano b ut for 64 bit os
#149 [07:56] <lemon-rev> ok
#150 [07:56] <lemon-rev> let me pull page up for you
#151 [07:57] <lemon-rev> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml < have a look there
#152 [07:57] <lemon-rev> you can find both 32 and 64 bit versions
#153 [07:58] <Skipsgoldenpig> yeah so wat do i click?
#154 [07:59] <lemon-rev> the 64 bit version,
#155 [07:59] <lemon-rev> you can also try the 32 bit but get 64 one first
#156 [08:00] <Skipsgoldenpig> but wen i click download it download 7.4
#157 [08:00] <lemon-rev> ok, just ignore what i said eariler,
#158 [08:00] <lemon-rev> about 7.4 thats hat i hve instaled seems to work fine
#159 [08:00] <Calinou> lemon-rev, he doesn't have 64 bit
#160 [08:00] <lemon-rev> if not, it will tell him :P
#161 [08:01] <lemon-rev> he seems to think its a 64 bit os
#162 [08:01] <Skipsgoldenpig> im still here
#163 [08:01] <lemon-rev> i know
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#165 [08:06] <Skipsgoldenpig> it keeps sayin when i run java it says interruppted could it be the internet ? (mozilla firefox is open)
#166 [08:06] <lemon-rev> then close firefox
#167 [08:06] <lemon-rev> it oculd be, it also could be your antivirus
#168 [08:06] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok but im atalkin to u
#169 [08:06] <lemon-rev> book mark the page
#170 [08:07] <Skipsgoldenpig> yeah so wat do i do with the antivirus?? and ojk
#171 [08:07] <lemon-rev> make sure the antivirus is allowing java to run
#172 [08:08] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok how do i check cuz the man installed malware
#173 [08:08] <lemon-rev> malware is bad ? what have you got say for an antivirus >?
#174 [08:08] <Skipsgoldenpig> ok ill be back i hafta close firefox
#175 [08:08] <Calinou> ragequit
#176 [08:09] <Calinou> (pebkac troll)
#177 [08:09] <lemon-rev> ok
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#179 [08:13] <Skipsgoldenpig> heyya it worked !!!!! thank you sooooooo much :D
#180 [08:13] <lemon-rev> which one worked ?
#181 [08:15] <Skipsgoldenpig> minecraft and java :D
#182 [08:16] <lemon-rev> bah, np, well at least ajva worked and now minecraft works yes ?
#183 [08:16] <Skipsgoldenpig> i wud say i love you but uno lol
#184 [08:16] <Skipsgoldenpig> and yes mincraft does :D
#185 [08:16] <lemon-rev> ok, well enjoy the game
#186 [08:16] <Skipsgoldenpig> i thinks its the same problem with my family computer aswell
#187 [08:16] <Skipsgoldenpig> thnks
#188 [08:17] <Skipsgoldenpig> do u play minecraft
#189 [08:17] <lemon-rev> well give it a test you have the link
#190 [08:17] <lemon-rev> me yes
#191 [08:17] <lemon-rev> but for me its bed time, work tomrrow
#192 [08:18] <Skipsgoldenpig> oh its like 1 oclock in the afternoon for me lol thnkssooo much nyt nyt
#193 [08:18] <lemon-rev> night
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#201 [09:51] <Robban094> Hey! I would like some help! When i try to update my minecraft it just freeze in the middle of the update, why is that happening?
#202 [09:52] <Robban094> Is there anyone here?
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#204 [09:53] <BlueBear> hey i need help
#205 [09:53] <Robban094> Yea me too, and i have got no answer
#206 [09:53] <BlueBear> I need a moders
#207 [09:53] <BlueBear> or coder
#208 [09:53] <BlueBear> can i help you robban
#209 [09:54] <BlueBear> i might be able to
#210 [09:54] <BlueBear> [red[
#211 [09:54] <BlueBear> [red]hmm
#212 [09:54] <Morrolan> Robban094 - Sounds like security software blocking it, make sure you security software allows Minecraft to connect to the Internet.
#213 [09:54] <BlueBear> are you a coder
#214 [09:54] <Morrolan> Also, if you're using AVG, disable its linkscanner module.
#215 [09:54] <BlueBear> morrolan are you a coder
#216 [09:54] <Robban094> How do i know if it's blocking it?
#217 [09:54] <Morrolan> BlueBear - If it's Minecraft-modding related, check #risucraft
#218 [09:54] <BlueBear> how do i go there
#219 [09:55] <BlueBear> #risucraft
#220 [09:55] <Morrolan> Use "/join #risucraft"
#221 [09:55] <Morrolan> Robban094 - Depends on what security software you're using.
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#224 [09:55] <Robban094> Okay, i have turned off the link thing, i hope it works
#225 [09:56] <RedefinedClank> Hey, w
#226 [09:56] <Robban094> It works! Thx alot!!!
#227 [09:56] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
#228 [09:56] <RedefinedClank> When I switch worlds in a server my Minecraft crashes, does anyone know how to fix this?
#229 [09:56] <Robban094> Oooh... it froze at 25 %...
#230 [09:57] <Morrolan> Robban094 - Try to disable your antivirus software completely for a few minutes.
#231 [09:57] <Morrolan> RedefinedClank - Err, might want to ask the developers of whatever plugin you're using.
#232 [09:57] <Robban094> OOooh, i didnt disable the linkscreen protection completly:p
#233 [09:58] <Morrolan> Ah. ;)
#234 [09:58] <RedefinedClank> Well it is the survival games plugin that does it
#235 [09:58] <Robban094> Do u know which is the latest uptade for technic pack?
#236 [09:58] <Morrolan> I do not.
#237 [09:58] <Morrolan> RedefinedClank - Then contact them through IRC if they've got a channel here, or through the forum. :)
#238 [09:59] <RedefinedClank> Ok
#239 [09:59] <Necrodoom> no IRC ):
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#255 [11:37] <mib_mb1so1> hallo
#256 [11:37] <Necrodoom> if its about not being able to log in
#257 [11:37] <Necrodoom> then yes
#258 [11:38] <mib_mb1so1> can someone help me please i need help .... i buy minecraft premium account but i cant log in "cant connect minecraft.net" please help
#259 [11:38] <mib_mb1so1> oh
#260 [11:38] <mib_mb1so1> server down? or update?
#261 [11:39] <Necrodoom> all having it
#262 [11:39] <Necrodoom> login server crashed again
#263 [11:39] <mib_mb1so1> thanks so much =)
#264 [11:39] <mib_mb1so1> someone know how long?
#265 [11:39] <Necrodoom> nope
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#267 [11:39] <mib_mb1so1> oki thanks for the information =)
#268 [11:40] <Haha> Are the Minecarft Login Servers Down?...I Cant login?
#269 [11:40] <Cupidus> yes down
#270 [11:40] <Cupidus> u must wait =)
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#272 [11:41] <Cael> Login Just went dead
#273 [11:41] <Cael> (pings time out)
#274 [11:41] <Haha> Why
#275 [11:42] <Morrolan> !auth down
#276 [11:42] <Morrolan> Either I'm missing the command, or the permission.
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#277 [11:42] <Necrodoom> auth is dead, yes
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#279 [11:43] <curmet> minecraft net offline?
#280 [11:43] <Morrolan> The login servers are having issues, yes.
#281 [11:43] <curmet> thx
#282 [11:43] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - Yea, but what I'm looking for is the command to turn on AuBot's auto-message to people joining the channel, stating that authentication serers are down. :)
#283 [11:43] <Cael> time to change teh topic and prepare for wave aftre wave of people asking like last week
#284 [11:43] <curmet> heh
#285 [11:44] <Morrolan> I'm sure there'd be some fancy Vox command to auto-add that, but oh well, works. ;)
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#287 [11:45] <curmet> You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability..
#288 [11:45] <curmet> You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability..
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#293 [11:46] <garrett2smart87> I try to log in on my launcher, but it says Cannot Connect to minecraft.net... I re-opened my launcher but that didnt work, and neither did reconnection to my internet
#294 [11:46] <Haha> Read the Topic!
#295 [11:47] <garrett2smart87> Any idea what the problem could be?/
#296 [11:47] <Haha> Nope
#297 [11:47] <Haha> .
#298 [11:48] <garrett2smart87> Um, that isn't very helpful...
#299 [11:48] <Haha> ...
#300 [11:48] <Necrodoom> login server down
#301 [11:48] <garrett2smart87> really? -_-
#302 [11:48] <Haha> Read the Topic!
#303 [11:48] <garrett2smart87> darn...
#304 [11:49] <garrett2smart87> Any Idea when it may be back up?
#305 [11:50] <Haha> No Idea...
#306 [11:50] <Haha> You must Wait
#307 [11:50] <Cael> and it Just went down too
#308 [11:50] <Guest__> but we can't wait, must..stack.blocks
#309 [11:50] <garrett2smart87> lol
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#311 [11:56] <Cupidus> no serveradmins here?
#312 [11:56] <BraveLilT0aster> Anyone else having problems connecting to Minecraft? isminecraftdown says it's up but I can't secure a connection
#313 [11:56] <Cael> thats such a vauge question.
#314 [11:56] <Cupidus> no
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#316 [11:56] <Cupidus> server down
#317 [11:56] <Cupidus> nobody here to make restart
#318 [11:57] <nobody1313> what?
#319 [11:57] <nobody1313> yes, that's ym problem
#320 [11:57] <BraveLilT0aster> Really? No one can reset it?
#321 [11:57] <nobody1313> the download version can't connect to minecraft.net
#322 [11:57] <Cupidus> no
#323 [11:57] <Cupidus> u must wait
#324 [11:57] <nobody1313> and the onbline version is broken too
#325 [11:57] <nobody1313> ---
#326 [11:57] <Cupidus> wait wait wait
#327 [11:57] <nobody1313> *-_-
#328 [11:57] <nobody1313> I no watn wait
#329 [11:57] <nobody1313> isn't there any way that we can fix it ourselves?
#330 [11:57] <Cupidus> from?
#331 [11:58] <BraveLilT0aster> Wow, that pretty much sucks. Would think there would be someone that could do that.
#332 [11:58] <Cupidus> u cant fix offline server =)
#333 [11:58] <nobody1313> ugh
#334 [11:58] <BraveLilT0aster> Any idea when this might be resolved?
#335 [11:59] <BraveLilT0aster> Run a gaming community so this is kinda important and I'm sure there's tons of other clans/communities being effected, not to mention people who shelled out money for the game.
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#338 [11:59] <maxyyt> any else having client login problems?
#339 [12:00] <Necrodoom> yes
#340 [12:00] <Morrolan> And yet their login servers won't be up as much as half a second faster, BraveLilT0aster.
#341 [12:00] <maxyyt> cause i think the servers are down
#342 [12:00] <maxyyt> good
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#344 [12:00] <nobody1313> yweah, the server is down
#345 [12:00] <BraveLilT0aster> I understand it just seems to have been down for quite some time.
#346 [12:00] <nobody1313> its happened before
#347 [12:00] <maxyyt> i checked their twitter and they dont seem to know about it
#348 [12:01] <maxyyt> yet
#349 [12:01] <Morrolan> It's sunday, as you might have noticed.
#350 [12:01] <nobody1313> it isn't affecting everyobne, I think
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#352 [12:01] <nobody1313> just people in a certain region
#353 [12:01] <Left4Dead> hey all
#354 [12:01] <nobody1313> though what region, I'm left blank
#355 [12:01] <nobody1313> hi
#356 [12:01] <Left4Dead> i need some help
#357 [12:01] <nobody1313> were discussing the broken server
#358 [12:01] <nobody1313> and what do yuo need help with?
#359 [12:01] <Left4Dead> i cant connect to minecraft.net
#360 [12:01] <Guest__> well, I can say it's from at least Indiana to western ky
#361 [12:01] <maxyyt> im in newfoundland canada so it might just be here
#362 [12:01] <nobody1313> that's the problem
#363 [12:01] <nobody1313> the server is down
#364 [12:02] <BraveLilT0aster> Yes I am well aware that it's Sunday, and I can contact my webhost right now, walking into the building if need be.
#365 [12:02] <Left4Dead> :(
#366 [12:02] <nobody1313> the minecraft one, possibly for all of north america
#367 [12:02] <nobody1313> i'm in florida adn I don't connect
#368 [12:02] <maxyyt> maby
#369 [12:02] <Left4Dead> i wanna play minecraft
#370 [12:02] <nobody1313> you just have to wait ti out
#371 [12:02] <nobody1313> you can do offline
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#373 [12:02] <nobody1313> as in singleoplayer
#374 [12:02] <maxyyt> anyone not in north america working
#375 [12:02] <nobody1313> I'm in Florida, nto working
#376 [12:02] <nobody1313> soemoen form Canada is broken too
#377 [12:03] <Left4Dead> im in Turkey,not working
#378 [12:03] <Left4Dead> :D
#379 [12:03] <nobody1313> hmm
#380 [12:03] <nobody1313> it must be bigger that I first thought
#381 [12:03] <Funnyhair> So when I try to log in It says it cannot connect to minecradt.net. Is it down or is there something else wrong?
#382 [12:03] <nobody1313> this has heppened before, you just ahve to wait
#383 [12:03] <BraveLilT0aster> The fact that a game with over a 6 million downloads doesn't have someone at work on a Sunday that can restart the server is a little ridiculous.
#384 [12:03] <maxyyt> ya server is down
#385 [12:03] <Boreeas> !login
#386 [12:03] <nobody1313> It's just broken currently
#387 [12:03] <Morrolan> I very much doubt it's just about restarting it, BraveLilT0aster.
#388 [12:03] <Boreeas> Login is broken right now, try again later.
#389 [12:03] <maxyyt> they are probably trying to fix it now anyways
#390 [12:04] <nobody1313> It will, hopefully, be noticed and fixed very soon
#391 [12:04] <Funnyhair> thank you all. I'll pe patient
#392 [12:04] <nobody1313> welcome
#393 [12:04] <mtg100> when this problem fixed?
#394 [12:04] <maxyyt> they got it working in about a hour last time it broke
#395 [12:04] <nobody1313> not yet, I think
#396 [12:04] <nobody1313> yeah
#397 [12:04] <nobody1313> you just ahve to wait ti out
#398 [12:04] <nobody1313> it's like a power outage
#399 [12:04] <BraveLilT0aster> It's been down for several hours now. I wanted to make sure at least that someone is aware of and trying to fix the problem.
#400 [12:04] <nobody1313> it'ss come on eventually, but you have to do other things while you wait
#401 [12:05] <nobody1313> and I really hope someoen fixes ti soon
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#403 [12:05] <mtg100> my cows having sex on single player :/
#404 [12:05] <nobody1313> and if you ahve download, you can still play singleplayer
#405 [12:05] <nobody1313> 0-0
#406 [12:05] <mtg100> wow a new cow :D
#407 [12:05] <nobody1313> good for them
#408 [12:05] <mtg100> a baby cow
#409 [12:05] <nobody1313> lol
#410 [12:05] <staf7> i need a bit of help i cannot get onto my minecraft accout
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#412 [12:05] <staf7> keeps saying cant connect
#413 [12:05] <nobody1313> we know that
#414 [12:05] <nobody1313> the server is currently down
#415 [12:06] <nobody1313> please have patience
#416 [12:06] <staf7> ohhhhhhh
#417 [12:06] <nobody1313> it will be hopefully fixed soon
#418 [12:06] <staf7> sorry dident know thx for the help
#419 [12:06] <nobody1313> it's broken all over the world
#420 [12:06] <nobody1313> Floria, Canada, turkey, etc.
#421 [12:06] <nobody1313> *Florida
#422 [12:06] <nobody1313> ok
#423 [12:06] <nobody1313> you can do singleplayer while you wait
#424 [12:06] <nobody1313> if you ahve download, that is
#425 [12:07] <staf7> yeah well i was just wndering because if a start minecraft offline the servers have a connection
#426 [12:07] <staf7> *if i*
#427 [12:07] <nobody1313> no, offline is using the code in your computer
#428 [12:07] <staf7> well yes i know
#429 [12:07] <nobody1313> it has singleplatyer, but it will say bad login for multiplauyer
#430 [12:08] <nobody1313> no, offline is using the minecraft program.
#431 [12:08] <staf7> oh....
#432 [12:08] <nobody1313> to eb on the network, you ahev to eb on the server, which is currently down
#433 [12:08] <staf7> well thanks for the help
#434 [12:08] <nobody1313> welcome
#435 [12:08] <Calinou> lol, I'm back, and login is down.
#436 [12:08] <Calinou> GG mojang!
#437 [12:08] <Calinou> GG mojang!
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#439 [12:08] <nobody1313> and your mods will work in offline
#440 [12:08] <nobody1313> still broken?
#441 [12:08] <nobody1313> I'
#442 [12:08] <nobody1313> m being the person who awnsers the questions
#443 [12:08] <nobody1313> it's kinda fun
#444 [12:09] <BraveLilT0aster> I found a twitter post guys Tobias is working on it right now said it will hopefully be up in five. That was just a few mins ago.
#445 [12:09] <Calinou> lol
#446 [12:09] <nobody1313> perfect
#447 [12:09] <BraveLilT0aster> Morrolan thank you for responding to me
#448 [12:09] <maxyyt> yay
#449 [12:09] <Morrolan> Mhm
#450 [12:09] <nobody1313> I wonder if it's everywhere, or just some places?
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#452 [12:10] <BraveLilT0aster> Hopefully they'll figure it out and have it up soon. I'll try to keep an eye on the twitter page for now and i'll let you guys know if I see him say anything else
#453 [12:10] <maxyyt> its worldwide
#454 [12:11] <nobody1313> ok
#455 [12:11] <Biozombie10010> can someone help i cannot connect to minecraft.net when i try to login throu the game client i cannot connect my date and time are good i tried to delete the bin folder and reload it wouldnt even download i checked my firewall settings
#456 [12:11] <maxyyt> as far as we know its canada, USA, and turkey
#457 [12:11] <maxyyt> ya the login system is down
#458 [12:11] <Biozombie10010> kk gotaya
#459 [12:11] <maxyyt> just play in offline for a bit
#460 [12:11] <Biozombie10010> that sux is there a ETA
#461 [12:11] <maxyyt> they will have it fixed soon
#462 [12:11] <Biozombie10010> kk thx
#463 [12:12] <BraveLilT0aster> Tobias is working on it right now said it will hopefully be up soon.
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#465 [12:12] <nobody1313> ok
#466 [12:12] <nobody1313> i'm ready to go
#467 [12:12] <nobody1313> as soon as it gets fixed, that is
#468 [12:13] <nobody1313> i'm going to check if it's fixed
#469 [12:14] <nobody1313> I think it is fixed
#470 [12:14] <nobody1313> yep
#471 [12:14] <nobody1313> bye guys
#472 [12:14] <nobody1313> the server is up, you need no more help
#473 [12:15] <Calinou> !login
#474 [12:15] <Calinou> :)
#475 [12:16] <BraveLilT0aster> Tobias's twitter "Should be coming back up. If it goes back down again I won't be able to look at it right now, I'm moving from my apartment."
#476 [12:16] <BraveLilT0aster> Hopefully it doesn't go down again but it appears to be fixed for now.
#477 [12:17] <Calinou> tobias's twitter "i gonna go to party, if the servers are down, i live in 742 evergreen terrace, contact me if needed"
#478 [12:17] <Calinou> ^ my version :P
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#480 [12:20] <Rhandal> Getting 'Can't connect to minecraft.net' errors on login ... rest of the web and minecraft.net are fine ... any known auth issues?
#481 [12:21] <Calinou> !login
#482 [12:21] <Morrolan> It was down a few minutes ago, seemingly got fixed, and is messed up again now.
#483 [12:21] <Calinou> it doesn't work anymore... it did. it seems people are rushing to play MC
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#485 [12:21] <Calinou> <sarcasm>you're the 458th person to ask here.</sarcasm>
#486 [12:21] <Calinou> ;)
#487 [12:22] * NinjaKirby golf claps
#487 [12:22] <Boreeas> s/a/u/
#488 [12:23] * Calinou claps golf
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#489 [12:23] <montezuma> are the minecraft servers down?
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#492 [12:24] <Wubble> Ħełp mıŋe¢ræſŧ wøŋ'ŧ wørĸ
#493 [12:24] <Morrolan> And neither does your keyboard.
#494 [12:24] <Ian> I can not log into Minecraft
#495 [12:24] <Morrolan> Minecraft's authentication servers are having trouble.
#496 [12:24] <Wubble> ???
#497 [12:24] <Calinou> Wubble, wow nice text
#498 [12:25] <Ian> does that mean my server is in danger?
#499 [12:25] <Wubble> łøł ŧħ× ¢æłıŋøü
#500 [12:25] <Boreeas> Ian: No
#501 [12:25] <Morrolan> Ian - Nah, this just means that none can log in.
#502 [12:25] <Boreeas> Ian: Just that no one can log in
#503 [12:25] <Calinou> langkid1, nah it doesn't
#504 [12:25] <Calinou> people can play, but only unauthenticated
#505 [12:25] <Ian> ok cool
#506 [12:26] <Calinou> ("play offline" names you "Player", using commandline with specific arguments lets you choose another username as unauthenticated)
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#508 [12:26] <Ian> been griefed too much
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#510 [12:26] <Wubble> sø ħøw đø ı ſı× ıŧ
#511 [12:26] <minecrafter345> is the login down?
#512 [12:26] <Boreeas> minecrafter345: Yes
#513 [12:26] <minecrafter345> any eta?
#514 [12:26] <Calinou> Wubble, you can just play offline for now
#515 [12:27] <Morrolan> minecrafter345 - It's done when it's done, really.
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#517 [12:27] <Morrolan> If you want updates so badly, check Mollstam's Twitter for news.
#518 [12:27] <minecrafter345> what's it for?
#519 [12:27] <Wubble> büŧ ı wæŋŋæ płæy øŋ server
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#522 [12:38] <Ian> is there a way I can log in by modifying my Hosts file?
#523 [12:39] <Ian> or is there a eta on when the servers will be back up?
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#527 [12:42] <Morrolan> Ian - If you want to log in so badly, then the only way is to start the server in offline mode, and use the client's offline mode as well.
#528 [12:42] <Morrolan> This'll allow anyone to log in with whatever name they want though.
#529 [12:42] <Ian> oh hell no. I have 2 players logged into my sever
#530 [12:43] <Ian> they managed to login
#531 [12:43] <Morrolan> I assume the login server's just really busy at the moment, due to everyone trying to connect, now that it's up again.
#532 [12:43] <Ian> when did it com up?
#533 [12:44] <Morrolan> Mollstam fixed it a while ago, but a few minutes later it got very unreliable again.
#534 [12:44] <Morrolan> As I said, most likely due to the amount of people trying to connect.
#535 [12:44] <Ian> ah
#536 [12:44] <Ian> trhknas
#537 [12:44] <Morrolan> Theoretically it could also be yet another issue though. *shrug*
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#539 [12:45] <WeissBlazer_> why, hello there
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#542 [12:59] <cecell> oic, any idea when the login servers will be back up? And any idea why the login servers work perfectly fine for a vanilla browser session but not a modded offline version?
#543 [13:01] <Morrolan> !check server.mcblock.it
#544 [13:01] <Morrolan> cecell - No ETA, all that you can do is wait for either Mollstam to fix it if it's broken, or for the load on it to decrease if it's merely overloaded.
#545 [13:02] <cecell> ok thanks. So no idea why any player with a browser session can log in straight away while offline cannot?
#546 [13:12] <Calinou> Morrolan, lol, blockit
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#548 [13:25] <ShaRose> login works for me if I send the https request manually.
#549 [13:26] <ShaRose> I should do a delayed login mod....
#550 [13:27] <ShaRose> so if it isn't logged in it pops up saying it, and then asks you if you want to try later and stuff
#551 [13:27] <ShaRose> molly wouldn't like it though :3
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#553 [13:39] <mib_opyc0b> hello, when I try to login, a message appears/ "Login failed", what shoud I do? Thanks.
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#559 [14:04] <Lardman> Hello! :D
#560 [14:04] <Gristle> Here now
#561 [14:05] <Lardman> So what exact problems are you having
#562 [14:05] <Lardman> Just logging in through launcher?
#563 [14:05] <Gristle> Took forever for client to validate, but it finally did...so I'm good there....but....
#564 [14:05] <Gristle> no servers allow me to connect....
#565 [14:05] <Gristle> Says Bad Login
#566 [14:06] <Lardman> Is it just on one server? or multiple?
#567 [14:06] <Gristle> mulltiple
#568 [14:07] <Gristle> Excat message is Connection Lost
#569 [14:07] <Gristle> Failed to login: Bad Logn
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#571 [14:08] <Calinou> Gristle, restart minecraft
#572 [14:08] <Calinou> !login
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#576 [14:11] <Gristle> Rstarted Launcher and all servers are validating me now - TY!!
#577 [14:12] <Gristle> Was afraid to close lancher since it took forever to get validated to launch
#578 [14:14] <Salihu> I am having problems planting mushrooms. With a mushroom in hand, I right click a grassy block that is free from any blockage. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks
#579 [14:15] <Gristle> dig up the block nad try again? Too much light?
#580 [14:16] <Salihu> I will try digging up the block. Thanks for the suggestion Gristle.
#581 [14:16] <Gristle> Hmmm
#582 [14:16] <Gristle> Connection problem is back now.....:(
#583 [14:16] <Gristle> should have stayed in the server when I got validated
#584 [14:18] <Gristle> Hmmm....
#585 [14:18] <Gristle> maybe its the mixing of MC 1.1 and 1.25 .....
#586 [14:19] <Gristle> restarted 1.1 client and its all good again
#587 [14:19] <Lardman> When in doubt restart :)
#588 [14:20] <Calinou> Salihu, mushrooms, as of 1.2.4 cannot be planted in light level > 13, this includes both sky light and block light
#589 [14:20] <Calinou> moonlight stays skylight at same level (15).
#590 [14:20] <Calinou> tips: plant them in the nether or the end, or in a large cave (if you want to bonemeal them)
#591 [14:21] <Morrolan> Calinou - Them having hired Doridian convinced me, that I'll stick with MCBouncer. ;)
#592 [14:22] <Calinou> mcbouncer sucks
#593 [14:22] <Morrolan> It does its job. :)
#594 [14:22] <Calinou> any ban listing does, because of the faking.
#595 [14:22] <Calinou> also, we aren't playing in real life, let's not do the same things real life does
#596 [14:22] <Calinou> let's not reproduce RL mistakes
#597 [14:22] <Calinou> *_*
#598 [14:22] <Morrolan> MCBouncer doesn't ban people for faked bans, so nothing wrong with that.
#599 [14:23] <Lardman> Is this another thing like Mcbans?
#600 [14:23] <Calinou> yep.
#601 [14:23] <Calinou> mcbans = run by canadian singles
#602 [14:23] <Lardman> I do not support
#603 [14:23] <Morrolan> MCBouncer is MCBans without global bans, basically.
#604 [14:23] <Lardman> Oh no globa bans
#605 [14:23] <Lardman> global
#606 [14:23] <Morrolan> Instead of a global bannin solution it's, uh, a global warning solution?
#607 [14:23] * Lardman heads to google
#607 [14:23] <Morrolan> baning*
#608 [14:24] <Lardman> It seems better than mc bans
#609 [14:24] <Morrolan> It sure has better staff.
#610 [14:24] <Lardman> ^
#611 [14:24] <Morrolan> Not that that's too hard to achieve. :P
#612 [14:24] <Lardman> I hated the global banning on mc bans
#613 [14:25] <Lardman> So many people got banned from every server because of it
#614 [14:25] <Lardman> with Mcbans*
#615 [14:25] <Morrolan> I'm not too sure about the number of false positives. People are fast with accusing such systems, but, eh.
#616 [14:25] <Morrolan> In that regard MCBlockit has a way of staff members having to "approve" bans, we'll see how this turns out.
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#618 [14:28] <Calinou> better have griefers and deal with them properly, imo
#619 [14:28] <Morrolan> Whatever floats your boat.
#620 [14:29] <Morrolan> Personally I'm glad such systems exist.
#621 [14:29] <Calinou> whatever integers your minecart
#622 [14:29] <Morrolan> integers?
#623 [14:29] <Morrolan> Brb, dictionary.
#624 [14:29] <Calinou> no programming
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#638 [15:42] <rosegun> hello
#639 [15:42] <Lardman> hello :)
#640 [15:42] <rosegun> i've got a question about minecraft xbox
#641 [15:43] <rosegun> is it true there was an update?
#642 [15:43] <rosegun> a few days ago?
#643 [15:43] <Lardman> I have no idea :/
#644 [15:44] <Lardman> I don't play xbox
#645 [15:44] <Calinou> xbox sucks anyway :P
#646 [15:44] <Calinou> consoles + updating = does not compute
#647 [15:44] <rosegun> i just wanna know
#648 [15:44] <rosegun> was there an update a few days ago :O?
#649 [15:44] <rosegun> cuz i had non :(
#650 [15:44] <rosegun> and someone said there was
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#653 [15:48] <rosegun> so no one knows?
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#655 [16:02] <Ovirew> hey, wondering if someone here could help me with installing a patch.
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#657 [16:02] <Calinou> Ovirew, what patch...?
#658 [16:02] <Calinou> you mean a mod?
#659 [16:04] <Ovirew> er yeah
#660 [16:04] <Ovirew> sorry
#661 [16:04] <Ovirew> mod
#662 [16:04] <Calinou> don't use enter as punctuation ;)
#663 [16:04] <Ovirew> oh
#664 [16:04] <Calinou> usually, mods have installation instructions. they're quite easy to follow
#665 [16:04] <Ovirew> sorry
#666 [16:04] <Ovirew> won't
#667 [16:04] <Ovirew> do
#668 [16:05] <Calinou> remember: to open archive files in a better way than windows, use 7zip: http://7-zip.org
#669 [16:05] <Ovirew> well this one has instructions but, as usual with this game, they are vague as crap
#670 [16:05] <Ovirew> I have 7-zip actually
#671 [16:05] <Calinou> kay :)
#672 [16:05] <Calinou> btw: the bot auto-mutes you for spam
#673 [16:05] <Calinou> you can talk right now, you don't have "+q"
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#675 [16:06] <Ovirew> so you unzip the folder
#676 [16:06] <Ovirew> the directions it gave me were to move some folders from the mod folder into the .jar of the older version of Minecraft
#677 [16:06] <Ovirew> I'm not sure how you do that
#678 [16:06] <Calinou> ...of the older version? what mod are you installing?
#679 [16:06] <Ovirew> it's the hack mine mod or whatever
#680 [16:07] <Calinou> *_*
#681 [16:07] <Ovirew> hackslash mine?
#682 [16:07] <Calinou> link?
#683 [16:07] <Ovirew> https://yogscast.com/showthread.php?46534-MOD-Hack-Slash-Mine!-%28Magical-Loot-System-Randomized-Dungeons-and-More!!!
#684 [16:07] <Juliii> Ok so i have this problem, that java could not create virtual machine and stuff, but nothing would work, no .bat file or those other solutions wich seem to work for the others
#685 [16:07] <Calinou> (btw: you should use mods from minecraft forum preferably, other sites can contain outdated stuff or woese)
#686 [16:07] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#687 [16:07] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#688 [16:07] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#689 [16:07] <Calinou> Juliii, do what VoxelHead says
#690 [16:08] <Ovirew> idk, this game is so confusing to do anything on besides playing the regular game alone
#691 [16:08] <Calinou> this game wasn't supposed to be modded originally, it's closed source
#692 [16:08] <Calinou> theorically, mods are illegal. 8)
#693 [16:09] <Ovirew> really?
#694 [16:09] <Ovirew> how come Notch and the people that make the game seem so cool with it then?
#695 [16:09] <Ovirew> probably because that's what sells the game or something
#696 [16:10] <Ovirew> bleh, well thanks anyway
#697 [16:11] <Boreeas> Jeb never was so much against it as notch was, I think
#698 [16:11] <Morrolan> Notch used to be very much into the idea of people playing the game like he imagined, that's true.
#699 [16:12] <ShaRose> Calinou every single mojang rep who has ever said something on the issue said it wasn't illegal and that modders had full rights over their code
#700 [16:12] <Calinou> ShaRose, :o
#701 [16:12] <Juliii> paste it into what channel?
#702 [16:12] <Calinou> yeah, modding decompiled source "ftw". ~mojang
#703 [16:12] <Morrolan> That is not true. Every mode distributes parts of Mojang's code, and this is illegal.
#704 [16:12] <Calinou> Juliii, http://pastebin.com > put the report here
#705 [16:12] <Calinou> then paste the link there
#706 [16:13] <Morrolan> Mojang won't press any charges, since it causes them no harm. But this doesn't make it legal to do. ;)
#707 [16:13] <Juliii> http://pastebin.com/RjwgYNVT
#708 [16:13] <ShaRose> Morrolan that is what mojang reps have said
#709 [16:13] <Calinou> reps?
#710 [16:13] <Morrolan> representatives
#711 [16:13] <Morrolan> ShaRose - I'd like to see the source of that. :/
#712 [16:13] <Calinou> there seems to be no problem with your hardware
#713 [16:13] <ShaRose> jeb, notch, anyone on bukkit...
#714 [16:13] <Calinou> try uninstalling the current java version you have, install java using the "offline" method
#715 [16:14] <Boreeas> ShaRose: Saying "he said that" is not giving sources
#716 [16:14] <Boreeas> ShaRose: Do you have a link to a twitter statement or forum or blag post?
#717 [16:14] <Calinou> tweet please? :P
#718 [16:14] <ShaRose> yes because I regularly keep logs at hand
#719 [16:14] <ShaRose> irc
#720 [16:14] <Calinou> TIL mojang is active on irc
#721 [16:15] <Calinou> bukkit guys sometimes talk on irc yeah
#722 [16:15] <ShaRose> how did you not know that lol :S
#723 [16:15] <Calinou> but others don't
#724 [16:15] <ShaRose> jeb's not as active as he used to be
#725 [16:15] <ShaRose> but he sometimes shows up in a few select channels
#726 [16:16] <Boreeas> Let me grep my logs when I last saw him
#727 [16:16] <ShaRose> notch hasn't been on in a LOOOONG time
#728 [16:16] <Morrolan> Did he actually get back his nick?
#729 [16:16] <Morrolan> Thought it expired and someone else registered it.
#730 [16:16] <Calinou> lol
#731 [16:16] <ShaRose> saw him a while ago so
#732 [16:16] <Boreeas> [22:16:22] NickServ Flags : HideMail, Hold
#733 [16:16] <Boreeas> Looks like it?
#734 [16:16] <Lardman> Who are we talking about?
#735 [16:17] <Morrolan> Ah, seems it's set on hold now, so it doesn't expire.
#736 [16:17] <Morrolan> So I guess it's his.
#737 [16:18] <ShaRose> still searching, found this old nugget [2012-02-03 12:13:01] <jeb> GUIpsp: we offered optifine 10 grand for his mod
#738 [16:18] <ShaRose> since people don't seem to know that one either
#739 [16:18] <Boreeas> malte@flotterLaptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/Profiles/68i5bayl.default/chatzilla/logs/sigil-mor.net%3a9005/channels$ cat * | grep JOIN | grep jeb
#740 [16:18] <Boreeas> No results
#741 [16:18] <Calinou> lol
#742 [16:19] <Morrolan> Out of curiosity, why do you cat everything and pie it into grep, instead of just grepping the logfiles?
#743 [16:19] <Calinou> "<jeb> GUIpsp: we offered optifine 10 grand for his mod" ...10 grand?
#744 [16:19] <Morrolan> pipe*
#745 [16:19] <ShaRose> yeah
#746 [16:19] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Dunno, that's the way I learned it to do
#747 [16:19] <Morrolan> Heh, okay.
#748 [16:19] <Boreeas> Seems to have about the same effect and speed, too
#749 [16:20] * Boreeas does a test
#749 [16:20] <Morrolan> Sure, and it does look a bit cleaner.
#750 [16:20] <Morrolan> But I just thought it was kinda odd. :D
#751 [16:20] <Boreeas> :P
#752 [16:20] <ShaRose> yeah, last time jeb was on was 2012-05-11
#753 [16:20] <Boreeas> ShaRose: What channel?
#754 [16:20] <Calinou> good thing
#755 [16:20] * Calinou doesn't want to see him again.
#755 [16:21] <ShaRose> risucraft
#756 [16:21] <Calinou> risucraft sucks
#757 [16:21] <ShaRose> he's only in a few chans
#758 [16:21] <Boreeas> Ah yes, I stay out of that channel
#759 [16:21] <ShaRose> why does risucraft suck (besides us not tolerating dumb people)
#760 [16:22] <Calinou> "us"
#761 [16:22] <Calinou> TIL ShaRose is a risucraft op, flame, flame, flame!
#762 [16:22] <ShaRose> yeah
#763 [16:22] <ShaRose> I've been a regular for... a long time
#764 [16:22] <Calinou> sucks because of modding community in general, and yeah, not tolerating dumb people.
#765 [16:22] <Calinou> everyone does mistakes
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#767 [16:23] <ShaRose> no, I don't mean dumb mistakes
#768 [16:23] <ShaRose> I mean people that are wrong and argue that they are right against all the evidence
#769 [16:23] <ShaRose> like, a while ago we had a dude argue modloader had a bug because he had a mod installed twice
#770 [16:23] <ShaRose> and refused to clear his mods folder
#771 [16:24] <Lardman> You get stubborn people sometimes. If they do not want to accept your help, then that is their problem.
#772 [16:25] <ShaRose> that's what I classify as dumb people
#773 [16:25] <Lardman> All that amatters is that you did all you could
#774 [16:25] <Lardman> matters*
#775 [16:25] <Boreeas> We get a bunch of people with questionable tech-savyness here, too, but we don't insult them
#776 [16:25] <Lardman> ^ yea, never insult anyone
#777 [16:25] <ShaRose> we usually reserve the insults until they show that they refuse to listen
#778 [16:25] <Lardman> It can come back to bite you in the arse
#779 [16:25] <Boreeas> But yeah, the couple of times I was there, I found the atmosphere unfriendly to hostile
#780 [16:26] <ShaRose> mm, few hostile members
#781 [16:26] <ShaRose> you tend to burn out after a while
#782 [16:26] <Lardman> Hostility is never a good thing.
#783 [16:26] <Calinou> Lardman, personally I don't mind "stupid" people
#784 [16:26] <Lardman> I don't that much either
#785 [16:26] <Calinou> as long as they follow usual irc etiquette: don't use enter as punctuation; expect people to be away; don't leave 1 minute after asking; use pastebin
#786 [16:26] <ShaRose> generally though, risucraft was meant for developers
#787 [16:26] <Lardman> I am just stating that you should never insult anyone for being stupid.
#788 [16:27] <ShaRose> I have a limit to reserving it
#789 [16:27] <ShaRose> we had one guy say he needed help learning java, and spent 2 months following tutorials, and didn't know how to make a method, or even a class
#790 [16:28] <ShaRose> which is generally the first page
#791 [16:28] <Lardman> Yea, as Calinou said. It is harder to stay in a nonhostile tne when someone is not following the rules or proper etiquette
#792 [16:28] <Lardman> tone*
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#794 [16:29] <ShaRose> another thing we see a lot of is pinging people as soon as they join
#795 [16:29] <Calinou> ShaRose, average minecrafter
#796 [16:29] <sunyshoremon> hey Everyone, what is THE best shop plugin of all plugins? Please do tell.
#797 [16:29] <Boreeas> sunyshoremon: #bukkit will be able to help you better in that case
#798 [16:29] <Lardman> Sunshoremon that is all opinion
#799 [16:29] * ShaRose again points out #Risucraft was meant for developers
#799 [16:29] <Lardman> and yea, #bukkit will be better
#800 [16:30] <ShaRose> half of us don't even play minecraft really anymore
#801 [16:30] <Boreeas> ShaRose: I am a developer, I was in there, I disliked the atmospher
#802 [16:30] <Calinou> developeurs + minecraft = does not compute
#803 [16:30] <Calinou> s/eurs/ers
#804 [16:31] <Calinou> sunyshoremon, Showcase, but I think it's outdated.
#805 [16:31] <Calinou> ChestShop then
#806 [16:31] <Calinou> Boreeas, I am not a developer, I was in there, I'm a-kicked
#807 [16:31] <Calinou> 8)
#808 [16:31] <sunyshoremon> i thought essentials signshop was good but idk yet
#809 [16:31] <ShaRose> by who lol?
#810 [16:31] <Calinou> essentials is meh. I use commandbook personally. ShaRose, I dunno
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#812 [16:31] <Boreeas> Calinou: That's the way to go :P
#813 [16:31] <Lardman> I played minecraft for the first time in a few months just a minute ago
#814 [16:32] <Boreeas> Calinou: And I guess you are french now?
#815 [16:32] <Calinou> yes, since always. :P
#816 [16:32] <Boreeas> Erm
#817 [16:32] <Calinou> I play minecraft since 1.5 years ago :P
#818 [16:32] <Boreeas> Phrasing, yes. Silly english grammar
#819 [16:33] <Calinou> back when it was balanced, and didn't have the griefer-boom yet (beta 1.3/1.5)
#820 [16:33] <Lardman> Beta 1.1-1.5ish was good
#821 [16:33] <Calinou> what? my english is much better than most french people, IMO. :P
#822 [16:33] <Lardman> Good times man *tear*
#823 [16:33] <Calinou> go figure! :)
#824 [16:33] <Boreeas> I started playing right when the beta came out, and stopped about when they started with the snapshots
#825 [16:33] <Boreeas> Calinou: No, my phrasing/grammar was bad ;)
#826 [16:33] <Lardman> Same Boreeas
#827 [16:33] <Calinou> snapshots... bringing new underpowered stuff, and quirks.
#828 [16:33] <Calinou> (new wooden slabs: 2x smelting time with same amount of wood)
#829 [16:33] <Calinou> (new wooden slabs: 2x smelting time with same amount of wood)
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#832 [16:43] <Boreeas> Morrolan, in case you cared:
#833 [16:43] <Boreeas> malte@flotterLaptop:~/benchmark$ python bench.py
#834 [16:43] <Boreeas> cat file.txt | grep somerandomtext: 14.5404839516 seconds
#835 [16:43] <Boreeas> grep somerandomtext file.txt: 18.7915501595 seconds
#836 [16:43] <Morrolan> That is... interesting.
#837 [16:44] <Boreeas> (On a 1 GB file from /dev/urandom)
#838 [16:44] <Morrolan> Also, you wrote a python script for that? Hehe.
#839 [16:44] <Lardman> So... apparently the login servers were messed up this morning.
#840 [16:44] <Boreeas> Tell me how to get the time in bash and I would do it there :P
#841 [16:44] <Morrolan> "time rm -rf /"
#842 [16:45] <Boreeas> <.<
#843 [16:46] <Morrolan> Yea, sometimes I too wonder why I didn't try the obvious solution, before going for a complicated one. :P
#844 [16:46] <Lardman> Morrolan I always do that
#845 [16:47] <Lardman> Yea lets mess with your hosts file. *turns out that he just needed to restart minecraft*
#846 [16:47] <Lardman> >_>
#847 [16:47] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#848 [16:48] <Lardman> Honestly... you would think the first thing they would do is restart it .
#849 [16:48] <Lardman> I always assume that they have tried. I should stop doing that. :/
#850 [16:51] <Calinou> Boreeas, out of curiosity, what distro? :P
#851 [16:51] * Calinou is currently on mint
#851 [16:51] <Calinou> aka noobdistro v2
#852 [16:52] <Boreeas> Calinou: Ubuntu 12.04
#853 [16:52] <Calinou> O_o
#854 [16:52] <Calinou> thought you used arch or anything similar
#855 [16:52] <Boreeas> Not yet, I just made the transition to Linux about half a year ago
#856 [16:53] <Boreeas> Without regrets, anyways :P
#857 [16:54] <Boreeas> I want to switch to something smaller at some point though.
#858 [16:55] <Morrolan> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ <- haha
#859 [16:56] <Calinou> arch is hard :P
#860 [16:56] <Boreeas> Haha
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#862 [16:57] <Morrolan> Either way, it took you 14 seconds to grep the 1GB file, Boreeas?
#863 [16:57] <Morrolan> Seems kinda high.
#864 [16:58] <bblewitt> can anyone help me and test to see if they can join my world. please I am just starting making a server for friends (PM me for details)
#865 [16:58] <Calinou> slow HDD?
#866 [16:58] <Calinou> bblewitt, no need to ask people to join your server
#867 [16:58] <Calinou> http://canyouseeme.org
#868 [16:58] <Calinou> type in port 25565
#869 [16:58] <Morrolan> Respectively !check
#870 [16:58] <Calinou> or that too
#871 [16:59] <bblewitt> !check
#872 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> ._. Every time x_x
#873 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> I get highlighted with that ;-;
#874 [16:59] <Morrolan> Haha.
#875 [16:59] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#875 [16:59] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan back
#875 [17:00] * GreyVulpine pats Gimmy on the head.
#875 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> Oh hi there GreyVulpine :p
#876 [17:00] * Grim_Reaper is petted
#876 [17:00] <bblewitt> umm what if I want to type in a different IP address not the one that it picks for me
#877 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
#878 [17:00] <Morrolan> use "!check <ip>"
#879 [17:00] <Lardman> GreyVulpine \o/
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#881 [17:01] <bblewitt> !check 192.168.0.2
#882 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> !check 90.220.23.77
#883 [17:03] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Well, my computer is under load right now :P
#884 [17:03] <bblewitt> i have tried that and it gave me that error message. so idk what I am doing wrong on portforwarding
#885 [17:03] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Ah, okay. ;)
#886 [17:03] <Morrolan> If I could figure out how to flush the read cache I could check how long it takes over here.
#887 [17:03] <bblewitt> !check
#888 [17:04] <bblewitt> dam
#889 [17:04] <clarjon1> !check dreamcraft.org
#890 [17:05] <bblewitt> umm I would use hamachi but my friends cannot install things on thier computer or it would work fine
#891 [17:05] <Boreeas> Don't use hamachi
#892 [17:05] <bblewitt> reason?
#893 [17:06] <Boreeas> ??> bblewitt fubar/hamachi
#894 [17:06] <VoxelHead> bblewitt: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#895 [17:06] <VoxelHead> bblewitt: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#896 [17:06] <Boreeas> Not to mention that anyone has access to your computer
#897 [17:07] <bblewitt> k umm so how do I portforward properly umm if it says go in to your router then I have done that part
#898 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> What router to do you have?
#899 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> er, do
#900 [17:08] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Okay, 9 seconds over here, so just pretend I didn't say anything up there. :P
#901 [17:08] <bblewitt> Dlino
#902 [17:08] <bblewitt> Dlink
#903 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Do you know your server's private LAN ip addres?
#904 [17:09] <bblewitt> umm is that the address to get access to the router from a browser
#905 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> No. I assume you're on the computer right now?
#906 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> By server, I mean, your computer's LAN address. The one that's going to be running the minecraft server.
#907 [17:10] <bblewitt> ya but I am running wireless
#908 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> That's fine. What operating system are you on?
#909 [17:10] <bblewitt> Visa (windows)
#910 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd and press enter
#911 [17:11] <bblewitt> done that
#912 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#913 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Please tell me the ipv4 address and default gateway address
#914 [17:11] <bblewitt> 192.168.0.2
#915 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> So the ip address you'll use to connect to your router via the browser will be 192.168.0.1, right?
#916 [17:11] <bblewitt> ya
#917 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Please do that now.
#918 [17:12] <bblewitt> done
#919 [17:12] <bblewitt> it takes me to Sky broadband router
#920 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a button labeled Virtual server?
#921 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> It should be under advanced.
#922 [17:14] <bblewitt> nope but I do have (services and firewall rules) under maintance
#923 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot or something?
#924 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> I don't think you're on a dlink router
#925 [17:15] <bblewitt> well it says Dlink on the router lol
#926 [17:15] <bblewitt> where can I paste it
#927 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> imgur.com
#928 [17:17] <Lardman> Imgur is awesome
#929 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#930 [17:18] <bblewitt> http://imgur.com/fWGVS and http://imgur.com/1B605
#931 [17:21] <bblewitt> when I said maintance it was under security (oops) lol
#932 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> That... is so not a dlink interface.
#933 [17:22] <bblewitt> ya I know it is Skys version
#934 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> You can delete that minecraft outgoing rule, minecraft will not communicate on 25565 going outwards
#935 [17:22] <bblewitt> because I am on sky broadband
#936 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Plus, your router is already allowing all outgoing traffic anyways
#937 [17:23] <bblewitt> ok
#938 [17:23] <bblewitt> done that
#939 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> That TS3 rule.. does that work?
#940 [17:24] <bblewitt> idk I cannot get rid of it
#941 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't seem like a valid rule anyways
#942 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> That WAN connection part is bugging me. Seems like that router's mapping all incoming traffic, using port 1-65535 to 25565.
#943 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Any way you can modify that minecraft server rule to have it 0.0.0.0/25565-25565 to 192.168.0.2/25565-25565?
#944 [17:27] <bblewitt> umm is that inbound
#945 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes, inbound.
#946 [17:29] <bblewitt> so LAN is 0.0.0.0 and WAN is the 192.168.0.2
#947 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> No. LAN is 192.168.0.2
#948 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> WAN is 0.0.0.0
#949 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The port for WAN, if you can, should be 25565-25565
#950 [17:31] <bblewitt> umm do u have skype or something because then you can see what I am doing and also type what to do lol
#951 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no I don't.
#952 [17:32] <bblewitt> is there any other free screen share that we can use
#953 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Teamviewer? join.me? showmypc.com?
#954 [17:33] <Lardman|relaxing> Teamviewer is the best
#955 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#956 [17:33] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#957 [17:33] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#958 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> I use teamviewer quite frequently.
#959 [17:33] <bblewitt> just downloading
#960 [17:35] <bblewitt> installing
#961 [17:35] <bblewitt> k installeed
#962 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Run teamviewer, PM me the 9 digit ID and 4 digit password
#963 [17:37] <Lardman|relaxing> Make sure to PM it
#964 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ;check bblewitt
#965 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Right.. no wugbot
#966 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> !check bblewitt
#967 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> !ip bblewitt
#968 [17:41] <bblewitt> !check
#969 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it works
#970 [17:41] <Lardman|relaxing> \o/
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#976 [18:51] <Schala_Zeal> I really think the launcher UI needs to be tweaked when under the Win32 classic theme. The buttons are incomprehensible.
#977 [18:52] <Schala_Zeal> http://s739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/schalazeal/?action=view¤t=Untitled.png
#978 [18:54] <Schala_Zeal> Aero and Win7 basic just makes my eyes bleed, and Classic is a popular fallback for many.
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#987 [20:06] <Jdar2> Help! I keep getting bad video card drivers on pc gamer mc.
#988 [20:13] <Lardman> Try updating your graphics cards
#989 [20:13] <Jdar2> I can't, no updates found.
#990 [20:13] <Lardman> Then find out the grapics card
#991 [20:13] <Lardman> go to the manufacturers website
#992 [20:13] <Lardman> and find the frivers
#993 [20:14] <Lardman> drivers*
#994 [20:14] <Jdar2> I heard its a problem with Intel Drivers/
#995 [20:14] <Lardman> If it is integrated
#996 [20:14] <Lardman> Integrated have a lot of problems
#997 [20:14] <Jdar2> Yep.
#998 [20:15] <Lardman> I have no idea then... I suck with graphics cards drivers
#999 [20:15] <Jdar2> intel 82915g Express Chipset Family
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#1001 [20:16] <speck53> does this help such things as what are some cool mods?
#1002 [20:16] <Lardman> try this download
#1003 [20:16] <Lardman> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=R112734
#1004 [20:16] <Lardman> Not you speck
#1005 [20:16] <Lardman> Um try Risucraft
#1006 [20:16] <Jdar2> Thanks!
#1007 [20:16] <speck53> haha
#1008 [20:17] <Lardman> #Risucraft is the mod IRC I believe
#1009 [20:22] <Jdar2> also, is there a way to look at a mc server thru console?
#1010 [20:23] <speck53> hmm k
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#1012 [20:24] <Lardman> What do you mean look through mc server through the console.
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#1014 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> You must look past the Class files, look past the CLI and the Cached Memory... DEEPER, LOOK DEEPER
#1015 [20:25] <Lardman> >_>
#1016 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> You are the Central Processing Unit. Be the Unit.
#1017 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Only then, are you Administrator.
#1018 [20:28] <Jdar2> look at the my minecraft server without a minecraft client.
#1019 [20:29] <Lardman> THere is no way to see it visually
#1020 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> lol, ASCII-fied
#1021 [20:32] <Jdar2> Darn!
#1022 [20:33] <Jdar2> also whats [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? mean?
#1023 [20:34] <Lardman> Dedicate a little more ram to it
#1024 [20:34] <Jdar2> i have 1024mb only.
#1025 [20:34] <Wug> what are you trying to host it on
#1026 [20:34] <Jdar2> my computer.
#1027 [20:34] <Wug> is it a laptop
#1028 [20:35] <Jdar2> Desktop.
#1029 [20:35] <Wug> what does it have for a processor
#1030 [20:35] <Jdar2> Pentium 4 HT
#1031 [20:35] <Wug> eeew
#1032 [20:35] <Jdar2> ?
#1033 [20:35] <Wug> pentium is yucky
#1034 [20:35] <Wug> you can ignore the message
#1035 [20:35] <Lardman> ^
#1036 [20:36] <Jdar2> lol. i have a pentium alone one to.
#1037 [20:36] <Wug> it means the processor isnt able to keep up with the ticks
#1038 [20:36] <Lardman> I get the message, but I can support 20 people with no lag
#1039 [20:36] <Wug> lag and server slowness are not the same thing
#1040 [20:36] <Jdar2> and a cruddy usb wireless dongle.
#1041 [20:37] <Jdar2> that loses connection every half hour and forces me to reboot.
#1042 [20:37] <Wug> sounds like fun
#1043 [20:37] <Wug> cant you just unplug it and plug it back in
#1044 [20:37] <Jdar2> nope, them hardware failure noise.
#1045 [20:37] <Jdar2> the inserted new hardware xp, but 3 times.
#1046 [20:38] <Wug> lol.. you might need to get a new one of those
#1047 [20:38] <Wug> sounds like it might be borked
#1048 [20:38] <Jdar2> linksys usb dongle + netgear router = h***
#1049 [20:39] <Jdar2> i have an ati radeon with a animated girl on it with a thin sword going thru the fan,anyone know the model?
#1050 [20:39] <Wug> if its in your computer you can find out with dxdiag
#1051 [20:39] <Wug> ?? win/dxdiag
#1052 [20:39] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1053 [20:39] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1054 [20:40] <Jdar2> its not in there.
#1055 [20:40] <Jdar2> its one i got from the 10$ pc i got.
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#1057 [20:43] <Jdar2> whoops.
#1058 [20:43] <Wug> Jarvis: check in the device manager
#1059 [20:44] <Jdar2> my connection conked out.
#1060 [20:44] <Wug> Jdar2: ^
#1061 [20:44] <Wug> Jarvis: oops
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#1063 [20:46] <Jdar2> -.-
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#1065 [20:47] <Jdar2> Hi roid.
#1066 [20:48] <RoidRage> Hey
#1067 [20:48] <Jdar2> im new to irc sort of,
#1068 [20:48] <Lardman> Downgrade to java 6
#1069 [20:48] <RoidRage> I'm having some difficulty I just purchased the game about 30 mins ago and I keep getting an error
#1070 [20:48] <Wug> Jdar2: use the device manager
#1071 [20:48] <RoidRage> with java
#1072 [20:48] <Lardman> Roid
#1073 [20:48] <RoidRage> Yes
#1074 [20:48] <Jdar2> @wug its not in the computer, lol
#1075 [20:49] <Wug> Jdar2: yes it is. right click my computer -> properties, there will be a device manager button somewhere
#1076 [20:49] <RoidRage> ok, ill try to downgrade to java 6 if I can figure it out haha
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#1078 [20:49] <Wug> RoidRage: open the control panel -> add/remove programs
#1079 [20:49] <Jdar2> no i mean the gpu isnt in my pc.
#1080 [20:49] <Lardman> Wug... you ninja :/
#1081 [20:49] <Wug> find and remove and installations of java
#1082 [20:49] <Wug> Jdar2: whyever not -.-
#1083 [20:50] <Wug> doesnt do any good sitting on a table
#1084 [20:50] <Jdar2> it came from a diffrent computer. i have onboard.
#1085 [20:50] <Wug> RoidRage: when youve uninstalled all of them tell us
#1086 [20:50] <Jdar2> @wug i dont wanna screw my computer.
#1087 [20:50] <RoidRage> ok
#1088 [20:50] <Wug> Jdar2: well, plug it in. it knows what kind of card it is
#1089 [20:50] <Jdar2> ok its pci.
#1090 [20:50] <Wug> the worst that could happen is it will not work and do nothing
#1091 [20:51] <Jdar2> i dont thinka 160 watt will work.
#1092 [20:51] <Jdar2> psu.
#1093 [20:51] <Wug> no, probably not
#1094 [20:51] <Wug> you would still be able to identify what it was without using it
#1095 [20:51] <Jdar2> how?
#1096 [20:51] <Wug> you should just be able to plug it in
#1097 [20:51] <Jdar2> with the computer on?
#1098 [20:52] <Wug> no, turn it off first
#1099 [20:52] <Wug> as long as you dont install drivers for it the computer shouldnt try to use it
#1100 [20:52] <Jdar2> ok. ill try that later!, thanks!
#1101 [20:52] <Wug> you will however be able to see it in the device manager and identify what kind of card it is
#1102 [20:52] <Jdar2> ok, im going to test something hold on
#1103 [20:52] <Wug> dont plug it in while the computer is on
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#1105 [20:53] <Jdar2_> oops. i didnt want to quit.
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#1111 [21:04] <Darknights65> hello
#1112 [21:04] <Darknights65> i would liek to know if it is possible to ban some1s account
#1113 [21:04] <Darknights65> for hacking excessive grief
#1114 [21:04] <Darknights65> extreme*
#1115 [21:05] <Darknights65> sorry
#1116 [21:05] <Wug> Darknights65: contact the admins on whichever server you are talking about
#1117 [21:05] <Darknights65> k
#1118 [21:05] <Jdar2> if your Op, do /ban (name here) and if your console ban (name here)
#1119 [21:08] <Darknights65> i want to get his mc account suspended
#1120 [21:08] <Darknights65> to be honest
#1121 [21:08] <Darknights65> because of whats been done to my server
#1122 [21:08] <Wug> there is no way to do that
#1123 [21:08] <Jdar2> Impossible
#1124 [21:08] <Jdar2> Unless he stops paying.
#1125 [21:08] <Jdar2> then he cant use mc. lol
#1126 [21:08] <Deleters> <Jdar2> Unless he stops paying.
#1127 [21:08] <Deleters> Lolwut?
#1128 [21:09] <Jdar2> darknights65: PM Me a pic of what he did,
#1129 [21:09] <Darknights65> yeah i was gonna say
#1130 [21:09] <Darknights65> tlol
#1131 [21:09] <Deleters> Minecraft is a one-pay shop.
#1132 [21:09] <Darknights65> i will
#1133 [21:09] <Jdar2> it is? -.-
#1134 [21:09] <Deleters> Yes...
#1135 [21:09] <Jdar2> *Walks away*
#1136 [21:10] <Jdar2> Darknights65: Do you own it?
#1137 [21:11] <Wug> Jdar2: do you?
#1138 [21:11] <Darknights65> yes
#1139 [21:11] <Darknights65> i own it
#1140 [21:11] <Darknights65> id have to take
#1141 [21:11] <Darknights65> like 10 pics
#1142 [21:11] <Jdar2> Darknights65: can you get in console?
#1143 [21:11] <Darknights65> of it
#1144 [21:11] <Darknights65> yes
#1145 [21:11] <Darknights65> i can
#1146 [21:11] <Jdar2> open it up
#1147 [21:11] <Deleters> what's the name?
#1148 [21:11] <Jdar2> and type ban (players name)
#1149 [21:12] <Wug> might be better to ban their ip address in case they have a second account
#1150 [21:12] <Darknights65> sorry about htat line thing lol and yes hes banned but he did this after he was banned
#1151 [21:12] <Jdar2> hacked client.
#1152 [21:12] <Wug> hacked clients cant get past bans
#1153 [21:12] <Jdar2> my friend has one that can.
#1154 [21:12] <Darknights65> the amout of damage to my server is so extensive
#1155 [21:12] <Deleters> Jdar. None can.
#1156 [21:12] <Darknights65> that i cannot repair with with logblock or aything
#1157 [21:13] <Wug> Jdar2: it might just make use of stolen accounts
#1158 [21:13] <Jdar2> can you take one pic of the most griefed one?
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#1160 [21:13] <Deleters> IPBans: Checks the ip. If they are masking their ip, then that's not the client.
#1161 [21:13] <Jdar2> Lol.
#1162 [21:13] <Jdar2> my bad.
#1163 [21:13] <RoidRage> Wug, it's not letting me remove java any idea's?
#1164 [21:13] <Deleters> Bans: Checks the name. Unless the user changed their name, then it's not the client, too.
#1165 [21:13] <Darknights65> yeah give me a minute
#1166 [21:13] <Wug> RoidRage: is it giving you an error message
#1167 [21:13] <Jdar2> im totally trashing his computer.
#1168 [21:13] <Jdar2> with remote sudo rm -frv /
#1169 [21:14] <Deleters> Dude
#1170 [21:14] <Deleters> Get bukkit, and an anti-grief plugin.
#1171 [21:14] <Darknights65> i do have one
#1172 [21:14] <Darknights65> i have beast node server
#1173 [21:14] <Deleters> Otherwise, get over it. The damage is done.
#1174 [21:14] <Jdar2> i cant recommend another one because i cant play my server.
#1175 [21:14] <Deleters> XD
#1176 [21:14] <Darknights65> lol
#1177 [21:15] <RoidRage> Every time I try to uninstall it a notification appears saying "would you like to allow this program to make updates to your computer" yes or no I tried doing both then nothing happens
#1178 [21:15] <Jdar2> durn!
#1179 [21:15] <Jdar2> i got kicked.
#1180 [21:16] <Wug> RoidRage: after picking yes, is it starting minimized
#1181 [21:18] <RoidRage> Once I click "yes" it says please wait while windows configures java
#1182 [21:18] <RoidRage> and then the bar loads and then nothing happens
#1183 [21:18] <Wug> RoidRage: it takes a while
#1184 [21:18] <Jdar2> i wonder if theres a plugin to ban/kick yourself on minecraft if your not op.
#1185 [21:18] <RoidRage> the bar fully loads and the little window that opens disapears
#1186 [21:18] <RoidRage> but I still see the java in the add/remove programs
#1187 [21:18] <Deleters> jdar, it can be easily done.
#1188 [21:18] <RoidRage> I restarted my computer several times also
#1189 [21:19] <Wug> :tv > RoidRage
#1190 [21:19] <WugBot> RoidRage: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1191 [21:19] <WugBot> RoidRage: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1192 [21:19] <Deleters> NEVER post your teamviewer code here.
#1193 [21:19] <Jdar2> darknight quit lol.
#1194 [21:20] <Jdar2> also, how can i get someone to test my mutilplayer server?
#1195 [21:21] <Wug> ;check Jdar2
#1196 [21:21] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1197 [21:21] <Wug> forward your ports
#1198 [21:21] <Jdar2> i cant test it myself, stupid opengl error,
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#1200 [21:25] <Deleters> ;check Deleters
#1201 [21:25] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 75.97.161.129.res-cmts.mtp2.ptd.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1202 [21:25] <Deleters> Is this supposed to check ports?
#1203 [21:27] <Jdar2> :check Jdar2
#1204 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> ;check Jdar2
#1205 [21:30] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1206 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Semicolon, not colon
#1207 [21:30] <Jdar2> ;check jdar2
#1208 [21:31] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1209 [21:31] <Jdar2> but i port forwarded!
#1210 [21:31] <Jdar2> durn.
#1211 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Talk us through, step-by-step, what you did
#1212 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Screenshots would help as well
#1213 [21:35] <Jdar2> ok.
#1214 [21:36] <Jdar2> screenshoting
#1215 [21:37] <Jdar2> http://i48.tinypic.com/bgzzo.png
#1216 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> And you're sure the computer running the minecraft server is 192.168.1.9?
#1217 [21:38] <Jdar2> no, the time is wrong.
#1218 [21:38] <Jdar2> yes,
#1219 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Copy the server.log from the server, paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URl
#1220 [21:39] <Jdar2> http://i50.tinypic.com/r9ex02.jpg
#1221 [21:41] <Deleters> Jdar
#1222 [21:41] <Deleters> windows?
#1223 [21:41] <Jdar2> http://pastebin.com/mzpp680i
#1224 [21:41] <Jdar2> Huh?
#1225 [21:41] <Deleters> You haz winders?
#1226 [21:42] <Jdar2> Yes, lol
#1227 [21:42] <Jdar2> XP Home SP3, Dell oem,
#1228 [21:42] <Deleters> hit the windows key, r, and type in cmd, hit enter.
#1229 [21:42] <Jdar2> ik that
#1230 [21:43] <Jdar2> yeah
#1231 [21:43] <Deleters> in that prompt, type in "ipconfig" and look for your "ipv4 adress"
#1232 [21:43] <Jdar2> next
#1233 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> He's already done that
#1234 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> See http://i50.tinypic.com/r9ex02.jpg
#1235 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> I'm waiting on his server.log
#1236 [21:43] <Jdar2> i pasted it.
#1237 [21:43] <Deleters> Jdar, did you change your ip adress to static?
#1238 [21:43] <Jdar2> http://pastebin.com/mzpp680i
#1239 [21:43] <Jdar2> no same as akwats
#1240 [21:44] <Jdar2> its been the same its been sicence i got the router
#1241 [21:44] <Jdar2> brb
#1242 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> What does your router say your Public WAN/Internet IP is, jd
#1243 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> ... bah
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#1246 [21:53] <Aska> hello
#1247 [21:54] <Aska> I got a black screen when I lauch Minecraft with java7 instead of java6
#1248 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Don't use Java 7, unless you've completely wiped all traces of 6.
#1249 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Known bug
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#1251 [21:55] <Lardman> Then use java 6, Minecraft has problems with java 7
#1252 [21:55] <Deleters> Java 7 doesn't allow connections.
#1253 [21:55] <Aska> ok
#1254 [21:56] <Aska> in fact I'm trying an other version of java besause I'm experiecing frequent crashes with openjdk6 (I'm on Linux)
#1255 [21:56] <Aska> the game runs great about 15-20 min and suddenly -> freeze
#1256 [21:57] <Aska> it's still running but something like 0.5 FPS
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#1258 [21:57] <Aska> and my whole computer is slowed down until I quit minecraft
#1259 [22:04] <Aska> anybody know why ? :(
#1260 [22:05] <Wug> Aska: sounds like you're overheating
#1261 [22:05] <Lardman> Yea, does your computer get really loud and hot?
#1262 [22:06] <Aska> no, I checked temps and it was ok
#1263 [22:06] <Wug> what were they? can you post a full report
#1264 [22:07] <Lardman> Remember to use pastebin!
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#1266 [22:08] <Aska> ok
#1267 [22:09] <Lardman> :)
#1268 [22:10] <Aska> but I have to make Minecraft freeze again, so it will probably takes a few minutes ^^
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#1270 [22:11] <Jdar2> durn nickserv
#1271 [22:13] * Wug hug wugbot
#1271 [22:13] <clarjon1> i'm using java 7
#1272 [22:13] <clarjon1> works quite well
#1273 [22:13] <Lardman> Yea, but if all traces of java 6 are not removed it won't
#1274 [22:13] <clarjon1> hm
#1275 [22:14] <clarjon1> i do have traces of j6
#1276 [22:14] <Jdar2> so what chat was i doing server?
#1277 [22:14] <clarjon1> i have j6 and j7, 64 and 32bit
#1278 [22:14] <Lardman> then... <_< >_>
#1279 [22:14] <Jdar2> *Mind Blowon at clarjon.
#1280 [22:15] <clarjon1> i installed j7 cuz of a mod that required j7
#1281 [22:15] <clarjon1> i forget which one
#1282 [22:15] <Jdar2> whats the problem?
#1283 [22:15] <Jdar2> i missed it.
#1284 [22:15] <clarjon1> There is none :)
#1285 [22:15] <clarjon1> for me.
#1286 [22:15] <Jdar2> then who?
#1287 [22:15] <Lardman> He is just being all I own everoneesk
#1288 [22:15] <clarjon1> Aska is having ssystem freezes on linux
#1289 [22:15] <Wug> clarjon1: I dont know what causes it but sometimes networking doesnt work with 7 until 6 is purged
#1290 [22:16] <Wug> it might be a symptom caused by creeping update syndrome
#1291 [22:16] <clarjon1> dunno
#1292 [22:16] <clarjon1> Wug: it's been working fine for me ^_^
#1293 [22:16] <Wug> for me as well.
#1294 [22:16] <Jdar2> Or Explodeing Creeper syndrome.
#1295 [22:16] <Jdar2> lol.
#1296 [22:16] <Wug> generally a total purge and reinstall fixes it
#1297 [22:17] <Jdar2> whats /me do?
#1298 [22:17] <Jdar2> on minecraft
#1299 [22:17] <Wug> same as it does here
#1300 [22:17] * Jdar2
#1300 [22:17] * Jdar2 flips a table
#1300 [22:18] * Jdar2 Is Shot By Herobrine
#1300 [22:18] <Jdar2> herobrine
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#1302 [22:20] <asdasdfgdfas> :j7
#1303 [22:20] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#1304 [22:20] <asdasdfgdfas> ;~ j7 You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u4-download-1591157.html
#1305 [22:21] * asdasdfgdfas totally isnt wug
#1305 [22:21] <Aska> I'm running Minecraft for 10 min and, of course, no crash -_-
#1306 [22:21] <Jdar2> Aska
#1307 [22:21] <Jdar2> Nvm
#1308 [22:22] <Jdar2> Who has linux/mac!
#1309 [22:22] <asdasdfgdfas> :kj
#1310 [22:22] <asdasdfgdfas> :j
#1311 [22:22] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 31)
#1312 [22:22] <Jdar2> :j
#1313 [22:22] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 31)
#1314 [22:22] <Jdar2> :k
#1315 [22:22] <Jdar2> :l
#1316 [22:22] <Jdar2> ;check
#1317 [22:22] <asdasdfgdfas> ;~ j Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 32)
#1318 [22:22] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1319 [22:24] <Jdar2> :q
#1320 [22:24] <Jdar2> :w
#1321 [22:24] <Jdar2> :e
#1322 [22:24] <Jdar2> what was that?
#1323 [22:24] <Jdar2> Voxel?
#1324 [22:25] <Jdar2> Is that a Bot? -.-
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#1326 [22:26] <Jdar2> Hi Roid
#1327 [22:26] <RoidRage> Hey
#1328 [22:26] <Jdar2> Roid
#1329 [22:27] <Jdar2> Do ;check
#1330 [22:27] <Jdar2> just like that.
#1331 [22:27] <Jdar2> ;check
#1332 [22:27] <RoidRage> ;check
#1333 [22:27] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1334 [22:27] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: S01060022b0d38d69.vc.shawcable.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1335 [22:27] <Jdar2> your not server ready! lol.
#1336 [22:27] <RoidRage> ?
#1337 [22:27] <Jdar2> checks pory 25565
#1338 [22:27] <Jdar2> for mc servers
#1339 [22:28] <Jdar2> lol do . 3 times like this
#1340 [22:28] <RoidRage> busy trying to get the game to work first, lol
#1341 [22:28] <Jdar2> .
#1342 [22:28] <Jdar2> .
#1343 [22:28] <Jdar2> .
#1344 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam. VoxelHead does that to stop spammers
#1345 [22:28] <Jdar2> Oh, Weird.
#1346 [22:28] <Jdar2> Sorry
#1347 [22:29] <Jdar2> Kick me from the chat.
#1348 [22:31] <Jdar2> !kick
#1349 [22:36] <Aska> ok, it crashed again : CPU : 51C and 49 C, GPU : 67 C
#1350 [22:36] <Jdar2> Hmm
#1351 [22:36] <Jdar2> F?
#1352 [22:37] <Aska> ?
#1353 [22:38] <Jdar2> Farenhit
#1354 [22:38] <Aska> no, Celsius
#1355 [22:38] <Jdar2> Who's DoSing me?
#1356 [22:38] <Aska> erf, I have to go
#1357 [22:39] <Aska> I'll come back later
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#1359 [22:40] <Lardman> What are you talking about Jdar2?
#1360 [22:40] <Jdar2> I keep getting DoS Attacks in my router log
#1361 [22:41] <Lardman> By what ip?
#1362 [22:42] <Wug> ;ip
#1363 [22:42] <WugBot> IP address of Wug is: 24.63.102.249
#1364 [22:42] <Lardman> ;ip
#1365 [22:42] <WugBot> IP address of Lardman is: 98.155.42.239
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#1367 [22:43] <Guest__> its jdar
#1368 [22:43] <Lardman> ?
#1369 [22:43] <Lardman> please change your name with /nick
#1370 [22:44] <Guest__> jdar2
#1371 [22:44] <Lardman> Um... what?
#1372 [22:44] <Jdar2> that was me.
#1373 [22:45] <Jdar2> on my tablet outside.
#1374 [22:45] <Lardman> Oh
#1375 [22:45] <Jdar2> ;ip
#1376 [22:45] <WugBot> IP address of Jdar2 is: 24.23.196.182
#1377 [22:45] <Jdar2> [DoS Attack: RST Scan] from source: 24.63.102.249, port 48891, Sunday, May 27,2012 18:32:37
#1378 [22:46] <Jdar2> Wug you DoSer!
#1379 [22:46] <Jdar2> lol.
#1380 [22:46] <Jdar2> brb
#1381 [22:46] <Wug> ;check 80
#1382 [22:46] <Lardman> >_>
#1383 [22:46] <WugBot> c-24-63-102-249.hsd1.vt.comcast.net:80 is accepting connections.
#1384 [22:46] <Jdar2> ;check 80
#1385 [22:46] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-24-23-196-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net:80 (Timed out)
#1386 [22:46] <Wug> ;check 443
#1387 [22:46] <WugBot> c-24-63-102-249.hsd1.vt.comcast.net:443 does not host a minecraft server.
#1388 [22:47] <Jdar2> brb
#1389 [22:53] <Wug> ;check 80
#1390 [22:53] <WugBot> c-24-63-102-249.hsd1.vt.comcast.net:80 does not host a minecraft server.
#1391 [22:53] <Wug> let it be known that I just made a port forwarding oopsie
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#1393 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Bad Wug!
#1394 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Bad!
#1395 [22:53] * Lardman places Wug's port forwarding oopsie in his diary
#1395 [22:54] <fenster> Is there anyway I can download a complete .minecraft folder?
#1396 [22:54] <Wug> fenster: nope
#1397 [22:54] <Lardman> Not legally
#1398 [22:54] <Wug> why do you need one
#1399 [22:54] <fenster> because for some reason i can't download the folder correctly.
#1400 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try?
#1401 [22:55] <fenster> if i don't update right now, it stops at 'done loading'.
#1402 [22:55] <Wug> what if you try force updating
#1403 [22:55] <Lardman> Have you tried downloading in browser?
#1404 [22:55] <Lardman> Also try what wug said
#1405 [22:56] <fenster> and if i try to update, it stops at lwjgl.jar 11%.
#1406 [22:56] <Lardman> delete the .minecraft folder
#1407 [22:56] <fenster> yes i tried the browser, it just seems to stop at some arbitrary percentage.
#1408 [22:56] <Wug> try disabling your antivirus and force updating again
#1409 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Running AVG, by any chance?
#1410 [22:56] <fenster> tried deleting .minecraft, and it stopped at 0%
#1411 [22:56] <Lardman> Odd
#1412 [22:56] <fenster> wait, yes i do have avg.
#1413 [22:56] <Lardman> Yea, what anti-viruses
#1414 [22:56] <fenster> hold on.
#1415 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it
#1416 [22:56] <Lardman> ^
#1417 [22:57] <Wug> avg is the one with the link scanner right
#1418 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Please go into AVG's options, disable the linkscanner module, force update through minecraft, and relog in
#1419 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1420 [22:59] <fenster> It worked, thanks a lot. you guys are great.
#1421 [22:59] <fenster> saved me a lot of trouble in the future, have a good day.
#1422 [23:00] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1422 [23:02] <Wug> :j7 > RoidRage
#1423 [23:02] <WugBot> RoidRage: (j7) You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u4-download-1591157.html
#1424 [23:03] <Wug> grab the version for 64 bit windows
#1425 [23:03] <Wug> that will stop the crash every 15 minutes
#1426 [23:03] <RoidRage> ok
#1427 [23:03] <Jdar2> :j4
#1428 [23:03] <Jdar2> :j6
#1429 [23:04] <Jdar2> logging off to tablet seeya
#1430 [23:05] <RoidRage> Alright Wug it's all done thanks sooooo much for the help, cheers
#1431 [23:06] <Wug> np
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#1433 [23:07] <RoidRage> time to figure out how to play now lol.
#1434 [23:07] <Lardman> \o/
#1435 [23:07] <RoidRage> one more thing how do I join public multiplayer games
#1436 [23:08] * jdar2 Sees Herobrine
#1436 [23:08] <Lardman> Go to multiplayer and you have to imput an ip
#1437 [23:08] <Lardman> No Herobrine jdar2 >_>
#1438 [23:08] <RoidRage> Where can I find ip's of peoples servers
#1439 [23:08] <jdar2> durn.
#1440 [23:08] <Wug> RoidRage: you can try minestatus
#1441 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1442 [23:08] <Lardman> You can look on the forums in the servers section
#1443 [23:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1444 [23:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1445 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1446 [23:08] <Lardman> or yea that^
#1447 [23:08] <jdar2> i reaember (player name) was shot by herobrine in mutilplayer
#1448 [23:08] * Wug triply redundant ^
#1448 [23:09] <Wug> jdar2: dont do that
#1449 [23:09] <Lardman> I agree
#1450 [23:09] <RoidRage> Ok thanks guys for all the help
#1451 [23:09] <RoidRage> have a good one
#1452 [23:09] <Lardman> Cya Roid
#1453 [23:09] <RoidRage> later
#1454 [23:09] <jdar2> Wug: What?
#1455 [23:09] <Wug> dont perpetuate the herobrine drivel
#1456 [23:10] <jdar2> ok,
#1457 [23:10] <Lardman> Jdar, it may be benifical for you to read the irc rules
#1458 [23:10] <jdar2> Oh ok
#1459 [23:10] <Lardman> beneficial*
#1460 [23:10] <Lardman> I hate the Herobrine story :/
#1461 [23:11] <Lardman> People are so annoying with it
#1462 [23:11] <Wug> its a great story. but ^
#1463 [23:11] <Wug> sick of hearing of it
#1464 [23:11] <Lardman> It was cool in beta 1.4ish
#1465 [23:11] <Lardman> or when ever it started
#1466 [23:12] <jdar2> what does the rules have to do with him
#1467 [23:13] <Lardman> I was just stating that you should read them.
#1468 [23:13] <sammaelt> too many people asking annoying stuff about herobrine jdar2, at least the recent month
#1469 [23:13] <Lardman> Though I think most people would agree wtih me that they do not want to hear of herobrine.
#1470 [23:13] <Lardman> It was taken too far.
#1471 [23:14] <jdar2> ok, sorry, may i be kicked?
#1472 [23:14] <sammaelt> no
#1473 [23:14] <Lardman> Why would you want to be kicked?
#1474 [23:14] <jdar2> rules.
#1475 [23:14] <sammaelt> no need
#1476 [23:14] <Lardman> If you want to leave... the close button is in the top right or top left
#1477 [23:14] <sammaelt> you're polite
#1478 [23:14] <jdar2> ok
#1479 [23:15] <sammaelt> ^^
#1480 [23:18] <jdar2> really
#1481 [23:19] <jdar2> someone namdd you know who is on lobby
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#1483 [23:23] <Lardman|afk> Hello there :)
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#1487 [23:34] <Magiobiwan> !login
#1488 [23:34] * Magiobiwan shoots his modem
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