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#5 [00:17] <ace_case> Hey I get an error when I try to play minecraft through the browser or through the client.
#6 [00:17] <ace_case> It says something along the lines of can't find accelerated opengl
#7 [00:18] <ace_case> I have updated my graphics, and have no mods
#8 [00:18] <ace_case> I have also tried completely deleting the .minecraft folder
#9 [00:19] <ace_case> It used to work on this computer and I have changed nothing between the time it worked and when it stopped
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#12 [00:28] <ace_case> anyone there?
#13 [00:43] <ace_case> Helloooo??
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#16 [00:51] <Kylew> hello?
#17 [00:51] <Kylew> hello?
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#22 [01:28] <nategold91> Hello
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#24 [01:44] <Finamenon> [22:34] -AuBot- JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL. PLEASE BE PATIENT, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU IF YOU QUIT AFTER 10 SECONDS. | Channel rules: http://u.kealper.com/rules :D
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#26 [02:13] <Finamenon> random question, if you were a new player on a server, what kinds of information would you want to see on the server's forum for new players?
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#28 [02:27] <Finamenon> good chat
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#47 [07:53] <finjuanican> hi :>
#48 [07:53] <finjuanican> can anyone tell me, is it just a bug in the newest snapshot when i wont get any xp from mining iron or is it done on purpose?
#49 [07:54] <lemon-rev> yea its dimond and iron no xp
#50 [07:54] <lemon-rev> atm
#51 [07:54] <finjuanican> ok thank you :>
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#68 [10:11] <Gurkenglas> What is the average seeds/roses/dandylions output of a single bonemeal on grass?
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#70 [10:16] <NinjaKirby> What is the angular momentum of a platypus when confronting the foremost deep ocean currents under an exceptionally high pressure Local Storm of a proportional scale 6.3, to the vector of wobbygong sharks approaching at 17 knots from a baring of 193 Degrees, by 24.7 Degrees?
#71 [10:18] <Gurkenglas> Ah, I found it in some video
#72 [10:18] <Gurkenglas> 64 Bonemeal->~323 Seeds, ~166 Dands, ~84 Roses
#73 [10:18] <Gurkenglas> If anyone else asks :)
#74 [10:19] <NinjaKirby> If only there was a video for my question :/ Where's David Attenborough when you need him.
#75 [10:29] <Gurkenglas> Angular momentum is not relative to a vector.
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#78 [10:41] <NinjaKirby> Gurkenglas: You bastard, lol
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#90 [11:35] <MuumiJu1> i need pre generated map with specific size, preferably with obsidian wall or something to limit its size
#91 [11:35] <MuumiJu1> wat do?
#92 [11:36] <MuumiJu1> tried googling but can't seem to find what i need
#93 [11:38] <NinjaKirby> MCEdit has a top-down Chunk view, if it allows it, I'd say generate a map, explore the sufficient size. MCEdit trim it down (I'd assume it can delete chunks in top-down mode) and then manually apply the Obsidian wall.
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#95 [11:38] <MuumiJu1> :S
#96 [11:39] <NinjaKirby> Bad idea? I have no other suggests though :/
#97 [11:39] <NinjaKirby> Wow, *suggestions
#98 [11:39] <MuumiJu1> not very eager to explore the whole map
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#100 [11:39] <MuumiJu1> especially when it's for ultra hardcore and i don't want to have unfair advantage of knowing what map looks like
#101 [11:39] <NinjaKirby> Well, I was thinking run it in server mode and fly around super fast to get the map generated. But if it's a large scale you need, I guess it could take a while still.
#102 [11:40] <NinjaKirby> Ah, fair enough
#103 [11:40] <NinjaKirby> Ah, fair enough
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#106 [11:41] <kirbyisaninja> '
#107 [11:41] * NinjaKirby looks at "Kirbyisaninja" username, and nods firmly
#107 [11:42] <NinjaKirby> Welcome Brother
#108 [11:42] <kirbyisaninja> o.o
#109 [11:42] <NinjaKirby> What a coincidence, lol
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#111 [11:49] <Guest_> help!
#112 [11:50] * NinjaKirby draws his Sword
#112 [11:50] <NinjaKirby> What troubles you Guest?!
#113 [11:50] <NinjaKirby> Dafuq, imposter?
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#116 [11:52] <Guest__> Hi all, got a problem with getting Minecraft to run, sun java error java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time.
#117 [11:52] <Calinou> Guest__, what operating system/java version? we need more info, as usual. :)
#118 [11:52] <Guest__> googled this and found a few others with same problem but no answers. running Linux mint LXDE11
#119 [11:52] <Calinou> clueless linux user spotted :)
#120 [11:53] <Guest__> tried changing javas and graphics drivers but still same result
#121 [11:53] <Calinou> try rebooting your computer, it sounds like it might fix the issue
#122 [11:53] <Guest__> lol, many reboots carried out!
#123 [11:53] <Calinou> use sun's java 6, avoid openjdk, it tends to be buggy or have worse performance
#124 [11:53] <Guest__> using sun java 6
#125 [11:53] <Calinou> try to delete your "bin" folder in .minecraft (this will not erase your saves/texture packs)
#126 [11:55] <xales> Calinou: It's a driver issue
#127 [11:55] <Calinou> oh, ok.
#128 [11:55] <xales> At least...I'm fairly certain.
#129 [11:55] <Calinou> Guest__, what graphics card?
#130 [11:55] <Guest__> I thought it might be a driver issue. Im using a ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
#131 [11:56] <xales> Calinou: Ubuntu is GPL-whore, and Mint as a derivitive is as well. The drivers that support OpenGL are usually binary-only and proprietary, so it won't install them by default...
#132 [11:56] <xales> Oh.
#133 [11:56] <xales> Or you could be using a really old card that doesn't support OpenGL.
#134 [11:56] <xales> That's another reason it would do that. Derp.
#135 [11:56] <Calinou> ubuntu isn't made by FOSS zealots at all
#136 [11:56] <Guest__> on a proliant DL560
#137 [11:56] <xales> Guest__: Yeah, uh
#138 [11:56] <Calinou> ATI... rage... doubt it will even run minecraft fluidly
#139 [11:56] <xales> The Proliant series are servers
#140 [11:56] <Calinou> you need opengl 1.2 at least
#141 [11:56] <xales> *not* workstations and most certainly not gaming systems
#142 [11:57] <xales> That card cannot run Minecraft, it's not even meant to do much more than render to a console
#143 [11:57] <Guest__> granted, but it runs minecraft server a treat!
#144 [11:57] <xales> Yeah, but Minecraft is *highly* GPU intensive
#145 [11:57] <Guest__> fair point
#146 [11:57] <clarjon1> minecraft server is different than minecraft client
#147 [11:58] <xales> clarjon1: Though to be honest, if Java could use OpenCL, it would run so much faster on a GPU...
#148 [11:58] <xales> (the server)
#149 [11:58] <clarjon1> mmm.
#150 [11:58] <Guest__> I guessed I might struggle, but I've had success with eg in browser games, so thought it might be worth a go
#151 [11:58] <clarjon1> in browser games are usually flash
#152 [11:58] <xales> Yeah, er, Minecraft isn't really a browser game
#153 [11:58] <clarjon1> and hardly 3d.
#154 [11:59] <Guest__> true, just trying to get a take on how much gpu the card would manage
#155 [11:59] <clarjon1> xales: http://www.jocl.org/ :3
#156 [11:59] <xales> clarjon1: Flash is software rendered almost always, even when hardware rendering is supported, IIRC :p
#157 [11:59] <xales> clarjon1: Okay then, if anyone at Mojang could be arsed to use it then ._.
#158 [12:00] <clarjon1> xales: petition dinnerbone? ;)
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#160 [12:00] <Guest__> so, do you all reckon I'm just flogging a dead horse tyring to get it run?
#161 [12:00] <clarjon1> Guest__: on that gfx chip, yup.
#162 [12:00] <xales> Guest__: The card literally doesn't support it, it is not possible.
#163 [12:00] <xales> Okay, maybe that's not true
#164 [12:00] <xales> You could run it at about a thousandth of an FPS rendering on the CPU only
#165 [12:00] <xales> I have no idea how to do that though
#166 [12:00] <xales> Not that you would want to...
#167 [12:01] <Guest__> ok, thanks, I was going to try SUSE next, but I guess I wont bother!
#168 [12:02] <xales> It's a hardware problem, not software, sorry :/
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#170 [12:02] <Guest__> ok, thanks for your time chaps, always find you all helpful
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#181 [12:52] <NinjaKirby> Noob question: Is the raw code of Minecraft in the many, many Class files?
#182 [12:53] <NinjaKirby> Never mind, pointless question.
#183 [12:54] <TheSteve0> Hey everyone - first question: Does server and client talk over http or is it a custom protocol? I am fronting my server with apache and wonder if that will work
#184 [12:54] <TheSteve0> all other questions depend on that question
#185 [12:56] <Boreeas> Custom protocol
#186 [12:56] <Boreeas> HTTP would hardly work for that
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#195 [14:00] <TheSteve0> Does minecraft client talk to the server over HTTP?
#196 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> No?
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#198 [14:14] <Scott> it uses the Minecraft protocol on port 25565
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#200 [14:16] <wikkit> l
#201 [14:17] <wikkit> Suche mc patcher download nicht von adfly
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#208 [14:36] <sugoi> HELLO minecrafters
#209 [14:36] <sugoi> missed me?
#210 [14:36] <sugoi> :)
#211 [14:36] <sugoi> hehe
#212 [14:36] <sugoi> i knew voxel would miss me
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#225 [15:17] <TheSteve0> GreyVulpine: yes but if I route the server through port 80 it could talk there - but if I put apache in front as a load balancer that will kill it won't it
#226 [15:18] <sugoi> TheSteve0: kill? no, block the port from being bound? yes
#227 [15:18] <sugoi> so, the first one up will bind, the 2nd will fail to bind (i.e. not listen)
#228 [15:18] <TheSteve0> sugoi: no that is fine in my scenario
#229 [15:19] <TheSteve0> sugoi: I am trying to get it up and running on OpenShift - a platform as a service
#230 [15:19] <sugoi> if mcs doesn't have a bound port, you can't "talk" to it
#231 [15:20] <TheSteve0> I bind minecraft server to 8080 and then I tell apache anything coming in for minecraft-rhminecraft.rhcloud.com should get routed to minecraft running on 8080
#232 [15:20] <TheSteve0> using vhosts and haproxy
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#234 [15:21] <sugoi> ok
#235 [15:21] <Boreeas> Why exactly are you trying to put up a frontend?
#236 [15:23] <TheSteve0> Boreeas: bc that is how PaaS work
#237 [15:23] <TheSteve0> works
#238 [15:23] <TheSteve0> especially in the multitenancy scenarios
#239 [15:23] <Boreeas> PaaS?
#240 [15:24] <TheSteve0> Platform as a service
#241 [15:24] <TheSteve0> openshift, heroku, cloudfoundry
#242 [15:27] <TheSteve0> FYI - I work for Red Hat on the OpenShift product
#243 [15:28] <sugoi> so back to your original question - well, first one i saw
#244 [15:28] <sugoi> if you start apache on 80, "it will kill it, won't it"
#245 [15:28] <sugoi> can you elaborate
#246 [15:29] <TheSteve0> sugoi: no
#247 [15:30] <TheSteve0> welll yes
#248 [15:30] <TheSteve0> I wasn't as clear when I first asked
#249 [15:30] <TheSteve0> I am really starting minecraft server on 8080
#250 [15:31] <TheSteve0> then using apache (through haproxy) to redirect all calls for the DNS name:80 to minecraft:8080
#251 [15:31] <TheSteve0> sugoi: but apache only understand http
#252 [15:31] <superkabii> so it's not going to work, is it...
#253 [15:31] <TheSteve0> so if minecraft server is not using http as the communication protocol then I am a no go
#254 [15:31] <TheSteve0> superkabii: nope
#255 [15:31] <sugoi> it surely doesn't
#256 [15:31] <TheSteve0> would have been free minecraft hosting
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#258 [15:32] <sugoi> since you work for red hat (and ergo are 1337 or something) write your own module for apache that speaks minecraft-ese
#259 [15:32] <TheSteve0> once we open external ports or do TCP port forwarding we will enable it
#260 [15:32] <TheSteve0> I am so NOT 1337
#261 [15:32] <TheSteve0> I am more like ID10T
#262 [15:32] <sugoi> fyi, minecraft packets us a custom protocol on tcp
#263 [15:33] <sugoi> use*
#264 [15:33] <TheSteve0> sugoi: yeah which is why we need TCP forwarding
#265 [15:33] <TheSteve0> on the roadmap but a lower priority
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#275 [16:31] <TTG_Mike> Can anyone help me with a tekkit issue
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#277 [16:33] <Mac> i need help
#278 [16:33] <Mac> Can anyone help me
#279 [16:34] <Mac> Someone
#280 [16:34] <Mac> please
#281 [16:38] <Calinou> <_<
#282 [16:39] <superkabii> ^._.^
#283 [16:44] * Boreeas activate ToIP
#283 [16:45] <Calinou> toip?
#284 [16:45] <Calinou> superkabii, better: .-`-.-`-
#285 [16:45] <Calinou> hills :D
#286 [16:46] <Boreeas> Calinou: Telepathy over IP
#287 [16:46] <Calinou> ahah
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#289 [16:53] <NinjaKirby> If I add more Artwork for the Pictures, would I have to modify the source code to "address" the new canvas locations in a Table or something?
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#297 [17:27] <Guest__> hi, minecraft.exe crashed java+blue screen
#298 [17:27] <Guest__> The file hs_err_pid4228.log contains the error report
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#300 [17:27] <Guest__> it was issued after the blue screen
#301 [17:28] <Guest__> What shall I do please?
#302 [17:29] <Guest__> the version of minecraft.exe was bought
#303 [17:29] <Guest__> (I can provide further further information if needed)
#304 [17:29] <Guest__> (I can provide further further information if needed)
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#306 [17:30] <lutzee> hr_err_pidxxx? isn't that out of memory?
#307 [17:30] <Guest__> Current thread (0x48fde400): JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=6036, stack(0x4a170000,0x4a1c0000)]
#308 [17:31] <lutzee> yeah.... you need to assign minecraft more RAM
#309 [17:31] <Guest__> I do not have a clue for the error
#310 [17:31] <Guest__> thx lutzee
#311 [17:31] <Guest__> how do I do that
#312 [17:31] <Guest__> ?
#313 [17:31] <lutzee> Google.
#314 [17:32] <Guest__> minecraft.exe does not need installing on the computer
#315 [17:32] <Guest__> is that correct?
#316 [17:32] <lutzee> Correct,
#317 [17:32] <Guest__> I just have the .exe for minecraft and minecraft_server
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#319 [17:33] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/350344-allocating-more-memory-to-java-windows/
#320 [17:34] <Guest__> cool!
#321 [17:34] <Guest__> how can know the version of the minecraft I am using plz?
#322 [17:34] <lutzee> You will be on the latest, so 1.2.5
#323 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> The menu shows the version at the bottom left of the screen
#324 [17:35] <Guest__> between, why did I pay (I did not do it myself) as I can download both minecraft and minecreaft_server?
#325 [17:35] <Calinou> you can only download the launcher and the server without paying for the game, and pre-release/snapshot minecraft.jar.
#326 [17:36] <Calinou> stable minecraft.jar, resources (= sounds) are paid
#327 [17:36] <Calinou> LWJGL isn't paid too
#328 [17:38] <Jamesking56> Can anybody answer me a question about my Minecraft Client 1.2.5?
#329 [17:38] <Guest__> so you mean I did not get what I paid for... as I downloaded simply minecraft+minecraft_server from mnct.net
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#331 [17:38] <Jamesking56> For some reason on Mac, when I load a world I cannot move until I command+tab out then command+tab back in… Why is this?
#332 [17:38] <Guest__> is that correct Calinou?
#333 [17:38] <lutzee> mnct.net? what
#334 [17:39] <Guest__> hum I meant minecraft.net
#335 [17:39] <Guest__> the internet site where the applications are dowloadable
#336 [17:39] <lutzee> Yes you got what you paid for, the launcher will download the game when you sign in with a paid account
#337 [17:40] <Guest__> ah
#338 [17:40] <Guest__> what is the launcher please?
#339 [17:40] <lutzee> minecraft.exe is the launcher
#340 [17:41] <Guest__> you mean I cannot execute minecraft.exe if I do not have a registered account
#341 [17:41] <Guest__> is that correct?
#342 [17:42] <Guest__> effectively I confirm my son (the user of minecraft) has got a valid ID + psswrd for minecraft
#343 [17:42] <lutzee> No, you can, then you put your account details into the login bit
#344 [17:43] <Guest__> ah yes I see
#345 [17:43] <Guest__> sorry lutzee for the boring questions
#346 [17:43] <Guest__> I am not the user unfortunately!
#347 [17:43] <Guest__> OK I will have a look at the mem issue on the link you provided cheers!
#348 [17:46] <Jamesking56> Anyone?
#349 [17:47] <Calinou> Jamesking56, using fullscreen?
#350 [17:47] <Jamesking56> Nope windowed
#351 [17:47] <Calinou> Guest__, you pay for a premium account, allowing you play the full game
#352 [17:48] <Calinou> Jamesking56, did you update LWJGL?
#353 [17:48] <Jamesking56> What is LWJGL
#354 [17:48] <Calinou> ...then you didn't update it, fine then. :P
#355 [17:48] <Calinou> it should work without the update
#356 [17:50] <Jamesking56> Well I do software updates so I might have
#357 [17:50] <Jamesking56> depends if it was an Apple Software Update, because I always do those
#358 [17:50] <Calinou> apple software update doesn't touch LWJGL
#359 [17:51] <Calinou> are you using any mods?
#360 [17:51] <Jamesking56> Just TooManyItems
#361 [17:51] <Calinou> if you do not have TMI installed, do you have to use command+tab?
#362 [17:51] <Calinou> (backup your minecraft.jar, use "force update" to download new one)
#363 [17:51] <Jamesking56> I'll give that a try now
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#365 [17:55] <Jamesking56> OK now something strange is happening
#366 [17:55] <Jamesking56> minecraft.jar isn't downloading
#367 [17:55] <Jamesking56> which is completely weird
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#369 [17:58] <Jamesking56> ah wait I got 1.2.5 now without TMI
#370 [17:58] <Jamesking56> I'll make a new world and see what happens
#371 [17:59] <Jamesking56> Aha! Calinou it works again! It must be TMI messing with it. Thanks!
#372 [17:59] <Calinou> no problem
#373 [17:59] <Calinou> TMI sucks anyway 8)
#374 [18:00] <Calinou> if you want to mess with not-legitimately obtainable items, use SPC, it is much better.
#375 [18:01] <Jamesking56> Well the new creative menu in the latest snapshot will be good enough for me in the future when they eventually bring it to 1.3
#376 [18:01] <Jamesking56> Well the new creative menu in the latest snapshot will be good enough for me in the future when they eventually bring it to 1.3
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#379 [18:08] <Ahe> So i got U-Verse recently, and now i have a 2Wire 3801HGV. Unfortunately, i cant get port forwarding to work again. Ive searched how to do it, but nothing is working.
#380 [18:10] <Ahe> Can anyone help me?
#381 [18:10] <Ahe> Can anyone help me?
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#395 [19:01] <hugz> is there anyway to use commands offline? like w/o a server?
#396 [19:02] <sugoi> hugz: you mean to edit your server files?
#397 [19:02] <hugz> like
#398 [19:02] <hugz> /home /back those kind of things
#399 [19:02] <sugoi> o_O
#400 [19:03] <sugoi> what are those commands? :)
#401 [19:03] <sugoi> those are vanilla commands
#402 [19:03] <sugoi> what mods are you talkinga bout?
#403 [19:03] <hugz> beats me
#404 [19:03] <sugoi> s/a / a/
#405 [19:03] <sugoi> haha
#406 [19:03] <sugoi> oops, typo on my part
#407 [19:04] <sugoi> i meant to say, "those are NOT vanilla commands"
#408 [19:04] <hugz> i just want to be able to go back if i die
#409 [19:04] <sugoi> go to where you died?
#410 [19:04] <hugz> yeah
#411 [19:04] <sugoi> and you want to be able to do this when your server is offline?
#412 [19:04] <hugz> i have no server at all :o
#413 [19:05] <sugoi> or are you saying you want to be able to do this with your local game
#414 [19:05] <sugoi> i see
#415 [19:05] <hugz> im just wondering if you can :o
#416 [19:05] <sugoi> the person hosting your server is providing a mod for those commands
#417 [19:05] <sugoi> hugz: so you could 1. find out what mod that is and see if there is a client-only version of it
#418 [19:05] <sugoi> or
#419 [19:05] <sugoi> 2. you could try rei-minimap
#420 [19:06] <hugz> rei-minimap?
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#422 [19:06] <sugoi> it gives you a minimap (awesome!) also, it creates markers on your map of where you died (with many configurable options related there to)
#423 [19:06] <sugoi> yes
#424 [19:06] <sugoi> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/482147-125-may24-reis-minimap-v31/
#425 [19:07] <sugoi> this being his version for mc 1.2.5: http://adf.ly/937215/reimm-125
#426 [19:07] <hugz> you happen to know anything about setting up servers on linux based? :o
#427 [19:07] <sugoi> sure, i run only gentoo
#428 [19:07] <sugoi> and, ergo, mc servers on it
#429 [19:07] <sugoi> this is the direct link to his minimap thingie: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34787499/minecraft/%5B1.2.5%5DReiMinimap_v3.1.zip
#430 [19:08] <hugz> problem i keep running into :o
#431 [19:08] <hugz> ark type files
#432 [19:08] <sugoi> if you haven't used rei minimap, i HIGHYL HIGHLY recommend it
#433 [19:09] <hugz> me and zips on linux dont like each other :P
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#435 [19:09] <sugoi> oh, arch*
#436 [19:09] <hugz> yeah
#437 [19:09] <sugoi> ark ^ didn't make a lick of sense to me
#438 [19:09] <sugoi> archives
#439 [19:09] <sugoi> are the files you are having trouble with literally .zip?
#440 [19:09] <hugz> i think it puts the k there cause of fedora and its k kit :P
#441 [19:09] <sugoi> or something elese
#442 [19:09] <hugz> .zip
#443 [19:10] <hugz> ark is the program default to open them :o
#444 [19:10] <sugoi> 'it puts the k there' ? autocorrects archrive to ark?
#445 [19:10] <sugoi> ah
#446 [19:10] <sugoi> well i'd blame that on your browser+win-mgr
#447 [19:10] <sugoi> i use only tar (cli)
#448 [19:10] <sugoi> for zips, there is also unzip
#449 [19:11] <sugoi> (cli)
#450 [19:11] <hugz> or my lack of knowledge of how to use the terminal :P
#451 [19:11] <sugoi> then why are you using linux?
#452 [19:11] <hugz> cause it dont cost 200$
#453 [19:11] <sugoi> i'm not trying to be a smart ass about it, just curious
#454 [19:11] <sugoi> have you tried ubuntu?
#455 [19:12] <hugz> yeah ubuntu wont run with this computer for some reason
#456 [19:12] <sugoi> but this doesn't really fix your problem directly
#457 [19:12] <hugz> fedora was the only one that would install
#458 [19:12] <sugoi> so, what goes wrong with ark when trying to open the zip?
#459 [19:13] <hugz> it just allows zips to be downloaded
#460 [19:13] <hugz> i have to do all the extracting
#461 [19:14] <sugoi> that is normal to me - even on windows that's how i do things
#462 [19:14] <sugoi> what do you expect to happen?
#463 [19:14] <hugz> i know alot more about computer hardware :P software is just so much to learn working towards it tho
#464 [19:14] <sugoi> open, and not save? (tho, opening is still saving to a temp dir)
#465 [19:15] <hugz> i expect a program to do all the extracting :P
#466 [19:15] <sugoi> well it does...as you pointed out
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#468 [19:16] <sugoi> i think you want to hide the save step
#469 [19:16] <sugoi> again, that's an issue with your browser
#470 [19:16] <sugoi> well, and the os, gosh - there's always a list of variables
#471 [19:16] <hugz> :P
#472 [19:16] <sugoi> and by os, i mean your window's manager
#473 [19:17] <hugz> where so beyond off topic
#474 [19:17] <sugoi> haha, it's okay - it's super quite in here nowadays
#475 [19:18] <hugz> you happen to know any good guides/sites i could look up to setting up a minecraft server on fedora?
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#477 [19:18] <sugoi> what's the 'setup' ? :) you can ask here, or google too of course
#478 [19:18] <hugz> the wut
#479 [19:18] <sugoi> it's just 1. install java, 2. download mc server jar, 3. run mc server jar
#480 [19:18] <sugoi> done
#481 [19:20] <hugz> yes i got that to work
#482 [19:20] <hugz> but how do i use it :o
#483 [19:21] <sugoi> are you 1. going to play mc from the same machine? 2. play mc from another machine in the same nat? 3. play outside the nat
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#485 [19:21] <hugz> same computer :P
#486 [19:22] <sugoi> well, when you add a server to connect to (in-game context), the ip can be `localhost` or `127.0.0.1` :)
#487 [19:22] <sugoi> i :)ed because i bet that makes obvious sense to you know that you think of it
#488 [19:24] <hugz> sweet
#489 [19:24] <hugz> ilu
#490 [19:24] <hugz> ^.^
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#495 [19:45] <tweety65> excuse me
#496 [19:45] <tweety65> can someone help me
#497 [19:46] <tweety65> please?
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#502 [19:59] <Tarquinn81> hey
#503 [20:00] <Tarquinn81> i have a question
#504 [20:01] <Tarquinn81> I ran out of memory in minecraft how do I get more? Also it was right after I installed direwolf's mod pack I dont know if that had anything to do with it.
#505 [20:03] <Tarquinn81> Is anyone there?
#506 [20:03] <Tarquinn81> Im pretty sure its after 10 seconds
#507 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> I believe you have to use a Batch Script and the Minecraft.jar
#508 [20:05] <Tarquinn81> um ok? how do I do that?
#509 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> Probably alternative ways to expand the RAM allocation as well.
#510 [20:06] <NinjaKirby> I don't have the Code handy, let me have a look, and double check I'm correct in this approach
#511 [20:07] <Tarquinn81> ok I can wait.
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#513 [20:09] <NinjaKirby> Okay, I got it
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#515 [20:10] <NinjaKirby> Interesting though, the Minecraft.jar in the usual .minecraft/bin/ Folder doesn't work, you have to download a slightly different .Jar
#516 [20:10] <NinjaKirby> www.minecraft.net/download -> Click "Show All Platforms", the .Bat code is supplied as well as the suitable Minecraft.jar (Linux section)
#517 [20:11] <Tarquinn81> thanks ill check it out.
#518 [20:11] <NinjaKirby> Modifying XMmx and Xms to 2048M though, or however much memory you can spare for it.
#519 [20:12] <NinjaKirby> I'm running Win7 and the "Linux version" works, btw. Even though it's not really a Linux version, afaik.
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#521 [20:18] <Tarquinn81> so I have 2gb of ram what number should I change it to?
#522 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> O_o Which OS are you running?
#523 [20:20] <Tarquinn81> Win7 like you
#524 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> Hmmmm, I wonder if this will even fix the problem, lol, since a Mod has incurred the issue
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#526 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> I guess allocate 1024-1536? I mean, Win7 idle claims quite a bit of Memory... 2048MB isn't a whole lot to play with.
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#528 [20:22] <TennysonXII> Right, so, first things first, how is everyone?
#529 [20:23] <Tarquinn81> ok so 1024 and 1536 if that works thanks!
#530 [20:23] <Tarquinn81> ok so 1024 and 1536 if that works thanks!
#531 [20:23] <TennysonXII> Also, why did my bow randomly get Power I? I've never enchanted in my life.
#532 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Best of luck >_<
#533 [20:24] <TennysonXII> Hmm?
#534 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> In the very rare circumstance, you fire the last use of your Bow at a Skeleton, the Bow broke and you picked up the new Bow off the dead Skeleton which just so happened to drop one which is Power I Enhanced.
#535 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> God DAMN, I'm good.
#536 [20:25] <TennysonXII> Indeed
#537 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Or, I don't know.
#538 [20:26] <TennysonXII> Haha
#539 [20:29] <TennysonXII> If I build a church, will it spawn a priest?
#540 [20:30] * NinjaKirby raises an eyebrow
#540 [20:30] <TennysonXII> Just curious if specialized buildings will spawn their respective villagers. My village doesn't have a church.
#541 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> Wait, wut? Will it spawn one? That suggests if you build a village from absolute scratch, Testificates will randomly appear for it.
#542 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> Wait, wut? Will it spawn one? That suggests if you build a village from absolute scratch, Testificates will randomly appear for it.
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#544 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Wtf is this name, Testificate, really
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#547 [20:33] <TennysonXII> Ah
#548 [20:33] <libraryaddict> Power went out and my game crashed.
#549 [20:33] <libraryaddict> I made a backup of my game then went into it, my whole game was..
#550 [20:33] <libraryaddict> Basically. Is there a way for me to recover my game?
#551 [20:34] <Scott> Not unless you use Time Machine or something similar.
#552 [20:34] <libraryaddict> Dammit
#553 [20:34] <libraryaddict> I guess I'll spawn it back.
#554 [20:35] <Omega_Guardian> Minecraft I think it'll be just a file or two, or is that a folder? somewheres
#555 [20:35] <molina> i follow the steps on minecraftforum.net about modloader, but i receive "Exception in thread "Thread-5" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: vp" minecraft.jar+moapi.9.zip+ModLoader.zip deleted META-INF but crash with this message, something else to do ?
#556 [20:35] <Omega_Guardian> the game saves automatically something like every 3 seconds apparently
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#558 [20:37] <libraryaddict> Omega_Guardian my player progress was saved, but not my map
#559 [20:37] <libraryaddict> I had not pressed "esc" for a while as well
#560 [20:39] <Omega_Guardian> ah. I thought that was changed
#561 [20:43] <libraryaddict> Pretty dumb I agree
#562 [20:43] <libraryaddict> Why not auto save if a player stands still
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#570 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm.
#571 [21:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Seems like the number one question on the WoM client these days are "Minecraft isn't connecting!" I wish Classic worked on Java 7.
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#573 [21:24] <Guest_> can someone help me with a error i get when i launch minecraft?
#574 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Whats the error?
#575 [21:27] <Guest_> can anyone help me when ever i load minecraft i get this error "LoadLibrary failed with error 998:Invalid acess to memory location"
#576 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest_?
#577 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm
#578 [21:27] <Guest_> sorry i was typing the error in but thats it
#579 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> how much ram does your computer have?
#580 [21:28] <Guest_> 4035
#581 [21:28] <Guest_> i still have 315 GB left to
#582 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm... you probably do not have Authority to enter your personal appdata
#583 [21:28] <Guest_> of hard DRive
#584 [21:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you the admin of the computer?
#585 [21:29] <Guest_> yes i am
#586 [21:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Sounded like it.
#587 [21:29] <lutzee> a quick google has pulled that it could be driver problems with catalyst control
#588 [21:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Amd, guest?
#589 [21:29] <Guest_> yes
#590 [21:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Could be, Lutz.
#591 [21:29] <Guest_> amd hd radion
#592 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> I think I used to have an AMD processor on my other computer
#593 [21:30] <Guest_> so would i have to update my drivers?
#594 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Try.
#595 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> It's best to anyways
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#597 [21:31] <lutzee> btw, i'm seeing it about all sorts of programs and not just minecraft, so minecraft has nothing to do with this, driver update yes
#598 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutz, It's prolly his first time seeing it, so he assumes it's mc. c:
#599 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> But nice notable info.
#600 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Dang wom isn't loading. :I
#601 [21:32] <Gilded_Knight_> Quick mushroom farming question, are there strange rules that make them unable to make more?
#602 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep.
#603 [21:32] <lutzee> hehe, yeah, google has given battlefront, another game i have never heard of and photoshop all with the exact same error
#604 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#605 [21:32] <Guest_> :P
#606 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Gilded, Try: No light, on mycelium, damp space, and large space for good measure.
#607 [21:33] <Guest_> never used this catalyst control so i cant find out how to update my drivers
#608 [21:33] <lutzee> use the windows driver update er
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#610 [21:34] <Guest_> lutzee so do you think this can fix it?
#611 [21:34] <lutzee> Possibility, it could
#612 [21:35] <Guest_> WOW 25 important updates :P
#613 [21:35] <lutzee> control panel>device manager
#614 [21:35] <Guest_> im behind big time
#615 [21:35] <lutzee> should be under display drivers
#616 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> I really wonder why the Wom Client runs so slow.
#617 [21:35] <Guest_> whats wom?
#618 [21:35] <Guest_> if i may ask
#619 [21:35] <lutzee> guest_ i have 44 important
#620 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> World of Minecraft custom minecraft Classic client.
#621 [21:36] <Guest_> is it a copy of wow im guessing?
#622 [21:36] <CrusaderDeleters> No
#623 [21:36] <Guest_> oh nvm then
#624 [21:36] <Gilded_Knight_> this is my current set http://imgur.com/fOimZ 0 light and a water havester
#625 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Pretty awesome Idea, Gild./
#626 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Never thought of it.
#627 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> There should be no better way.
#628 [21:38] <Gilded_Knight_> XD i haven't gotten even one mushroom
#629 [21:38] <molina> modloader install unsuccessful someone can help?
#630 [21:38] <Gilded_Knight_> for a large sum of time...
#631 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> I had a nice setup, there were 8 blocks around each mushroom, I had to manually cut it, but it worked.
#632 [21:38] <Gilded_Knight_> how do you fail a drag and drop?
#633 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> It's like: Shroom, air, air, Shroom.
#634 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Exactly.
#635 [21:39] <Gilded_Knight_> molina what mod are you putting in?
#636 [21:40] <molina> moapi.9.zip + ModLoader.zip
#637 [21:40] <Gilded_Knight_> never heard of moapi.9
#638 [21:40] <Gilded_Knight_> but modloader you just unzip and drop into minecraft.jar
#639 [21:41] <molina> ok, but i received this message: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: vp
#640 [21:41] <CrusaderDeleters> What the ehck is moapi?
#641 [21:42] <Gilded_Knight_> did you put in modloader forst or the api?
#642 [21:42] <Gilded_Knight_> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/191591-v125-moapi-modoptionsapi-9/
#643 [21:42] <Gilded_Knight_> i'm assumeing this
#644 [21:43] <molina> i did both , with moapi and without
#645 [21:43] <molina> i follow this : http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v125-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#646 [21:43] <Gilded_Knight_> did you delete meta.inf?
#647 [21:43] <molina> yes
#648 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Wouldn't be the problem.
#649 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Molina, you are missing vp.class somewhere.
#650 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Check in either of the zips for the specified class, and add it into minecraft.jar.
#651 [21:44] <molina> ok i ll try
#652 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> What is the WoM irc? :I
#653 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Found eet.
#654 [21:51] <molina> Gilded_Knight_ i found vx.class and vl.class nothing of "vp"
#655 [21:51] <molina> at modloader both
#656 [21:53] <Gilded_Knight_> i have no idea, how to fix that crusaderDeleters said something about that
#657 [21:53] <molina> vp.class exist in minecraft_server.jar
#658 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Ehm.
#659 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> They are probably for minecraft servers?
#660 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> :io
#661 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> The api*
#662 [21:54] <Gilded_Knight_> also, if you can't install the drag and drops... i don't think you should try modding...
#663 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> We don't even have to help with modding.
#664 [21:57] <Gilded_Knight_> but you haven't quite solved my mushroom issue though...
#665 [21:57] <Gilded_Knight_> TBH :P
#666 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#667 [21:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Guild, have 9x9 boxes, in the center of each, make one mushroom
#668 [21:58] <CrusaderDeleters> This increases your output by 8, in theory
#669 [21:58] <CrusaderDeleters> I got one in one minute with a simple ~24 shroom on one side.
#670 [22:02] <Gilded_Knight_> well i'll give that a shot i'll give details
#671 [22:02] <Gilded_Knight_> well i'll give that a shot i'll give details
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#675 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I really need the mc classic's Source. :I
#676 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Mojang has not provided the source code for any of their Minecraft software so far
#677 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
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#680 [22:46] <Gilded_Knight_> i don't think mushroom farms work any more...
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#682 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Mushrooms max out at 5 per 3x3 region
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#684 [22:51] <Omega_Guardian> never seen that happen. Last time I played multiplayer a shroom farm was filled right out
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#686 [22:53] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm getting a black screen/freeze when I try to start MC.
#687 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> That's just what I've seen in Etho's mushroom farming, and on the wiki it says "After Beta 1.8, mushrooms' spreading ability was severely restricted - a mushroom would only spread if there were fewer than 5 mushrooms of the same type in a 9w x 9l x 3h area around the original mushroom"
#688 [22:54] <TehBrawlGuy> I have the latesr Java
#689 [22:54] <TehBrawlGuy> What's the process for figuring out what
#690 [22:54] <TehBrawlGuy> 's wrong?
#691 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> The process? Start with a clean version of Minecraft, by forcing an update
#692 [22:55] <Omega_Guardian> I can see why the change was made. Stops the spreading but still useable for shroom farms, just less efficient
#693 [22:55] <TehBrawlGuy> Tried that.
#694 [22:55] <TehBrawlGuy> Didn't work.
#695 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> Did it work at any time previously?
#696 [22:56] <TehBrawlGuy> No, never.
#697 [22:56] <TehBrawlGuy> Huh, that's odd.
#698 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> it works now?
#699 [22:56] <TehBrawlGuy> Nope, sadly.
#700 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> waht was odd?
#701 [22:57] <Gilded_Knight_> i finaly got one brown mushroom spawn
#702 [22:57] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm getting an error when I try to force update
#703 [22:57] <TehBrawlGuy> let me pull it up
#704 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> righto
#705 [22:57] <TehBrawlGuy> fatal error occured (4) s3.amazon.aws
#706 [22:58] <TehBrawlGuy> I figured I would force update again since I haven't tried to get MC working since a few months ago.
#707 [22:58] <Omega_Guardian> sounds like the cloud server is down again :P
#708 [22:58] <TehBrawlGuy> Should I just delete MC and redownload?
#709 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Where are you running Minecraft from, the web browser or from a downloaded file?
#710 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Yes, delete and download
#711 [22:59] <TehBrawlGuy> Either fails.
#712 [22:59] <TehBrawlGuy> classic works fine btw
#713 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> Go to %appdata% and in the Roaming folder you will see the .minecraft folder - you can delete that.
#714 [23:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Where would that be (running XP)
#715 [23:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Dang, can't redownload.
#716 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Start menu, then Run, then type in %appdata%
#717 [23:00] <TehBrawlGuy> I guess the servers are down.
#718 [23:01] <TehBrawlGuy> Alright.
#719 [23:03] <TehBrawlGuy> Am I just SoL until the servers are up?
#720 [23:04] <Wug> TehBrawlGuy: do you have avb\g
#721 [23:04] <Wug> avg*
#722 [23:04] <TehBrawlGuy> Yes, I do.
#723 [23:04] <TehBrawlGuy> Is that a problem?
#724 [23:06] <Gilded_Knight_> it is
#725 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> The download seems to work for me, so it may just be a regional outage for the time being
#726 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> Yes, SoL until things locally become available for you
#727 [23:06] <TehBrawlGuy> So how do I go about fixing that? Delete AVG?
#728 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> That can depend on which avg you have. paid, trial, or free.
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#732 [23:08] <TehBrawlGuy> Trial.
#733 [23:09] <TehBrawlGuy> So I'm totally k with uninstalling.
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#736 [23:10] <TehBrawlGuy> Sorry 'bout that, did I miss anything?
#737 [23:11] <Wug> ...
#738 [23:11] <Wug> I GUESS YOULL NEVER KNOW
#739 [23:11] * Wug prepares funny response for next rejoin
#739 [23:13] * Wug sudo killall -KILL diskdaemon
#739 [23:13] <Omega_Guardian> Freenode just had a hiccup I think :P Got disconnected, rejoined a minute later but seemed I was ghosting
#740 [23:13] <Wug> eew freenode
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#742 [23:13] <Wug> OH MY GOD DISKDAEMON THAT WAS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE EVER READ IN MY ENTIRE LIFE
#743 [23:13] <TehBrawlGuy> Went ahead and uninstalled AVG.
#744 [23:14] <Wug> TehBrawlGuy: doth it worketh?
#745 [23:14] <TehBrawlGuy> Getting that Firefox can't fine the server at s3.amazonaws.com.
#746 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> There was a good post on teh internetz about avg and how different versions of it affect Minecraft in different ways, but I'll be buggered if I can find it now
#747 [23:14] <TehBrawlGuy> so no
#748 [23:14] <TehBrawlGuy> =v
#749 [23:15] <Wug> DiskDaemon: its mostly linkscanner
#750 [23:15] <Wug> TehBrawlGuy: what link are you hitting
#751 [23:15] <TehBrawlGuy> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#752 [23:16] <TehBrawlGuy> the download minecraft.exe link for windows
#753 [23:16] <TehBrawlGuy> the ones for the game and server both fail
#754 [23:16] <Wug> copy and paste the link here
#755 [23:16] <TehBrawlGuy> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#756 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> Aha! Here's that post http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#757 [23:16] <Omega_Guardian> years ago it used to be OK. Went to crap like most of them. Least now MS has their own thing that seems better then the rest.
#758 [23:17] <Wug> TehBrawlGuy: open a command prompt and use "ping s3.amazonaws.com
#759 [23:17] <Wug> "
#760 [23:17] <Wug> report back what it resolves to
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#762 [23:18] <Wug> ;dns s3.amazonaws.com
#763 [23:18] <WugBot> 207.171.163.33
#764 [23:19] <Wug> ^ it may or may not be that
#765 [23:19] <TehBrawlGuy> Ping request could not find host s3.amazon.aws
#766 [23:19] <Wug> copy the url, thats not the right one
#767 [23:19] <Wug> brb icecream
#768 [23:19] <Wug> if its that it should definitely work, if its not, it might
#769 [23:19] <TehBrawlGuy> Pinged that IP address, 100% loss, timed out.
#770 [23:19] <Wug> thats weird
#771 [23:20] <Wug> maybe an internet burp
#772 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> A regional outage for the time being?
#773 [23:20] <TehBrawlGuy> Maybe?
#774 [23:20] <TehBrawlGuy> Nothing else makes sense.
#775 [23:20] <TehBrawlGuy> My internet is clearly OK.
#776 [23:20] <TehBrawlGuy> You guys aren't having trouble.
#777 [23:21] <Wug> no, its not that. it doesnt respond to pings
#778 [23:21] <Wug> try hitting http://207.171.163.33/MinecraftDownload from a browser
#779 [23:21] <TehBrawlGuy> This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
#780 [23:21] <Wug> you should get some xml manifest file
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#782 [23:22] <Wug> try adding /Launcher/Minecraft.exe to the end
#783 [23:22] * Wug pings AmberK because he knows it annoys her :3
#783 [23:22] <Wug> <3
#784 [23:22] <TehBrawlGuy> This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below. <Error><Code>NoSuchKey</Code><Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message><Key>lLauncher/Minecraft.exe</Key><RequestId>1B4BEABC86CE247E</RequestId><HostId>JpQx5q5p1IWNCJXJWVyAhSApKMUAoAYR76rBC1EHzVYfyeAowVjFIAmvsYxLrmh2</HostId></Erro
#785 [23:23] <Wug> whoops. might be lowercase l in launcher
#786 [23:23] <Wug> its probably case sensitive
#787 [23:23] <TehBrawlGuy> same story
#788 [23:24] <TehBrawlGuy> slightly different error
#789 [23:24] <Wug> weeeird. it works for me when I use lowercase l. pastebin the whole error message
#790 [23:24] <TehBrawlGuy> <Error><Code>NoSuchKey</Code><Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message><Key>llauncher/Minecraft.exe</Key><RequestId>F62023C8DD0DC8F8</RequestId><HostId>DDoql/nrbnnZAl/60PmU1Vc+UxiOtEaxcFww7a0H8pZKiH7bjUW+1eSkNZvdhTMn</HostId></Error>
#791 [23:24] <Wug> you have "llauncher"
#792 [23:24] <Wug> not "launcher"
#793 [23:24] <TehBrawlGuy> OH
#794 [23:24] <TehBrawlGuy> worked now
#795 [23:24] <TehBrawlGuy> thanks
#796 [23:25] <Wug> youre 100% sure it wasnt working from the link on the site?
#797 [23:25] <TehBrawlGuy> 100%
#798 [23:25] <Wug> if so thats hella weird
#799 [23:25] <Wug> try it again
#800 [23:25] <TehBrawlGuy> why?
#801 [23:25] <Wug> to make sure it still doesnt work
#802 [23:26] <Wug> for the life of me I cant imagine why it wouldnt
#803 [23:26] <Wug> especially since it works with the ip
#804 [23:26] <TehBrawlGuy> Still does not work,
#805 [23:26] * AmberK beats up Wug \\o\\ /o/ \\o\\ /o/ \\o\\
#805 [23:26] <Wug> do you get an error?
#806 [23:26] <TehBrawlGuy> New download of MC has the same errors as pre delete
#807 [23:26] <TehBrawlGuy> here's what happens when I click the link
#808 [23:26] <TehBrawlGuy> Server not found Firefox can't find the server at s3.amazonaws.com. Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer o
#809 [23:27] <Wug> use pastebin. dont paste things here
#810 [23:27] <Wug> if its more than one like
#811 [23:27] <Wug> line*.
#812 [23:27] * AmberK *cough* http://pastie.org
#812 [23:27] <AmberK> <3
#813 [23:27] <TehBrawlGuy> Ah, my bad.
#814 [23:27] <Wug> are you behind a work proxy
#815 [23:27] <Wug> youre on a comcast business connection
#816 [23:28] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm at the library.
#817 [23:28] <Wug> youre probably behind a proxy
#818 [23:28] <TehBrawlGuy> It's unrestricted thoguh
#819 [23:28] <TehBrawlGuy> ah
#820 [23:28] <Wug> it could be that
#821 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> That might go a long way to explain why
#822 [23:28] <TehBrawlGuy> So, try it from my home wi-fi?
#823 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> That would be best, yes
#824 [23:29] <TehBrawlGuy> Alrighty.
#825 [23:29] <TehBrawlGuy> Thanks a bunch for the help.
#826 [23:29] <Wug> np
#827 [23:29] <TehBrawlGuy> Really appreciate it.
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#829 [23:42] <TehBrawlGuy> So, I'm at home now.
#830 [23:42] <TehBrawlGuy> (lving 3 blocks form the library is awesome)
#831 [23:42] <TehBrawlGuy> Was able to update, but MC just crashed.
#832 [23:42] <TehBrawlGuy> Same as before I deleted anything.
#833 [23:43] <TehBrawlGuy> Bearing in miind I have until the hour to fix this, anything more I can do?
#834 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> ?mcerror
#835 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> There's a program that can help to get a log for what causes the crash. http://bit.ly/t154lG
#836 [23:46] <Wug> mm thats right
#837 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> Go to the Downloads link on the right of that page, and download MCErrorV28.jar
#838 [23:46] <Wug> I havent updated the record for wug.me
#839 [23:46] <Wug> whoops
#840 [23:46] <Wug> I have to forward ports before that happens anyway
#841 [23:47] <TehBrawlGuy> Alright, now what?
#842 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> run it
#843 [23:48] <TehBrawlGuy> Well look at that.
#844 [23:48] <TehBrawlGuy> It works!
#845 [23:48] <TehBrawlGuy> You guys are great! <3
#846 [23:49] <TehBrawlGuy> Thank you so much.
#847 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> Interesting - does it work too now without using the error checking program?
#848 [23:49] <TehBrawlGuy> Let me check.
#849 [23:51] <TehBrawlGuy> No, actually.
#850 [23:51] <TehBrawlGuy> It crashes again.
#851 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> Well that adds a new data point to help with the troubleshooting. It's beyond me, but perhaps not for others here
#852 [23:51] <TehBrawlGuy> here's what the error checker says
#853 [23:51] <TehBrawlGuy> http://mibpaste.com/sT9GDV
#854 [23:51] <clarjon1> use pastebin
#855 [23:51] <clarjon1> not mibpaste please
#856 [23:51] <clarjon1> http://pastebin.com/
#857 [23:52] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/AtynL7wK
#858 [23:54] <TehBrawlGuy> Also, when I successfully ran MC, it told me that I had 32 bit java and that 64 bit was recommended for a far render. Can I get 64 bit Java on a 32 bit OS? (probably a stupid question)
#859 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> Internet Explorer is about the only way to download 64-bit java
#860 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> ... easily
#861 [23:57] <Omega_Guardian> these days probably easier to download from one of the program archive sites...whatever ones haven't gone to crap and stuff adware/etc into clean programs