#MinecraftHelp > 2012-06-16
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#2 [00:10] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: we fixed it :D
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#4 [00:11] <Wug> seems like the internet is having a lot of dns issues lately
#5 [00:11] <Lardman> ^
#6 [00:12] <Kealper> that's the gubb'ment trying to hijack the DNS system to spy on people
#7 [00:12] * Kealper puts on his tinfoil hat
#7 [00:12] <Lardman> Apocylpse 2012
#8 [00:12] <Lardman> Prepare!
#9 [00:12] <Lardman> >_>
#10 [00:12] * Wug uses the aluminum to amplify Kealper's brainwaves and beams them to the governmnet
#10 [00:12] * Kealper cries
#10 [00:13] <Lardman> The man is trying to shut you down man. Man, don't let the man get to you.
#11 [00:14] <zkxs> Could it have something to do with world ipv6 day?
#12 [00:14] <Kealper> doubtful, most DNS servers have been v6 capable for ages
#13 [00:14] <Lardman> Wait, its ipv6 day! :O
#14 [00:15] <Kealper> that was 10 days ago lol
#15 [00:15] * Lardman is totally behind the times
#15 [00:15] <zkxs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem <-- it is coming
#16 [00:15] <Kealper> http://www.worldipv6launch.org/
#17 [00:16] <Kealper> zkxs: if we're still using 32-bit timestamps with an epoch of 1970 by then, we deserve anything coming to us from that problem
#18 [00:16] <zkxs> I like how the only people listed on wikipedia as having problems with it are AOL
#19 [00:17] <Kealper> rofl
#20 [00:17] <Lardman> Lol
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#28 [00:26] <LordFawful> Hello
#29 [00:26] <Warrior22232> Hey
#30 [00:27] <Lardman> Hello
#31 [00:27] <LordFawful> Do you guys have any info on making blue prints?
#32 [00:28] <LordFawful> Iv got a Scribing Table but every time i try to make a blue print i get kicked with some error
#33 [00:28] <xales> Try asking in #buildcraft
#34 [00:28] <xales> (Assuming that's what you are talking about, anyway)
#35 [00:29] <LordFawful> is there a channel for terraferma craft?
#36 [00:29] <xales> I don't know.
#37 [00:29] <LordFawful> ok
#38 [00:29] <LordFawful> thanks
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#41 [00:38] <SonicScrew543> Hey, I have a question about torches burning out?
#42 [00:38] <Lardman> go on
#43 [00:39] <SonicScrew543> Everytime I make a world, and a torch burns out, it says burned out, even when I refresh it\
#44 [00:39] <SonicScrew543> I thought that bug was fixed in 1.1?
#45 [00:39] <Lardman> O.o
#46 [00:39] <SonicScrew543> it stays burned out*
#47 [00:39] <Lardman> Red stone torch?
#48 [00:39] <SonicScrew543> yeah
#49 [00:39] <Lardman> hm....
#50 [00:40] <SonicScrew543> Any possible fixes?
#51 [00:40] <Lardman> I have no idea
#52 [00:40] <SonicScrew543> There was a fix back in 1.0.0 when this bug was first found, but I haven't been able to make it work
#53 [00:41] <SonicScrew543> Anyway, is there anyway I can speak to Mojang and let them know?
#54 [00:41] <Lardman> try using a switch next to it?
#55 [00:41] <Lardman> also, this is a unique problem
#56 [00:41] <Lardman> Try making a new world
#57 [00:41] <SonicScrew543> Every world
#58 [00:42] <SonicScrew543> Any reports of this before?
#59 [00:42] <Lardman> I havn't heard of it
#60 [00:42] <SonicScrew543> It was fixed at 1.1, but it came back when 1.2.3 came out
#61 [00:42] <SonicScrew543> Possibly just me?
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#64 [00:44] <Lardman> Yea, it is just you
#65 [00:44] <SonicScrew543> :/ dammit
#66 [00:44] <Lardman> Try deleting hte bin folder in the .minecraft folder
#67 [00:44] <Lardman> then restart minecraft
#68 [00:45] <SonicScrew543> Refreshed the jar already
#69 [00:45] <SonicScrew543> So somehow, only my client seems to be broken
#70 [00:45] <SonicScrew543> I'll try and find a fix
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#82 [03:16] <Gakkor> Buddy is having an issue on his server. Every so often in Creative mode he develops an invisible wall of destruction around him. Going near anything just destroys the blocks leaving no items. From what he can tell me he doesnt activate or change anything, that it does it on tis own. Lost quite a bit of building work thanks to it popping up and
#83 [03:16] <Gakkor> him running around destroying everything within a bubble around him.
#84 [03:17] <Gakkor> Solutions? Ideas?
#85 [03:17] <Calinou> he using an hacking client
#86 [03:17] <Calinou> solution: he's not your friend, ban him
#87 [03:17] <Gakkor> New to minecraft, explain please? Hacking client? I can Team View him and its the regular Minecraft client...
#88 [03:18] <zkxs> It might *look* like it. He could have a hotkey set up to enable a 'nuker', as they are known
#89 [03:19] <zkxs> If it is a bukkit server, you could install an anti-cheating plugin
#90 [03:20] <Gakkor> 90% of the work destroyed is his own, so I find it hard to believe it, but I have no way to prove it other than his word.
#91 [03:20] <Calinou> > NoCheatPlus
#92 [03:20] <Calinou> Gakkor, ban him
#93 [03:20] <Calinou> also you should've made backups of the map :< too late
#94 [03:21] <zkxs> Gakkor: Did this occur whilst you were watching via teamviewer?
#95 [03:21] <Gakkor> Not my server, not my call sadly. Guild mates server from Aion, and with it happening randomly kinda hard to prepare for it. No Zkxs, it happens randomly.
#96 [03:22] <zkxs> What you are describing is the exact behavior of the 'cnuker' hack in the nodus griefing client
#97 [03:23] <Necrodoom> it sounds like a hack, pretty much. while MC can be buggy, havent seen it go up in flames like that
#98 [03:23] <Gakkor> Sitting on Mumble with him now and hes swearing up and down its the original client.
#99 [03:23] <Gakkor> Oh well, thanks for the infro.
#100 [03:23] <Calinou> get real buddies :P
#101 [03:24] <zkxs> Gakkor: He might not know... he may have accidentally mashed a key enabling it if someone else stuck a griefing client on his account
#102 [03:25] <zkxs> Like if some friend used his computer, etc. You could grab .minecraft via teamviewer and check to see if it is hacked
#103 [03:25] <zkxs> Of course, if he was doing it intentionally, he probably would have restored it to an unhacked version when you got suspicious
#104 [03:25] <zkxs> 99% chance of hacked client, though
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#114 [05:28] <Aidono> o/ hi all
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#122 [06:11] <ALASKAMAN> anyidea whyi get this error when i am a op I'm sorry but you donothave permission to perform this commeand please contac the server administrators if you believe yjat thisis in error
#123 [06:12] <lutzee> if it is bukkit with permissions installed it will ssay that, if it isn't your server ask the owner
#124 [06:12] <Calinou> lol
#125 [06:12] <Calinou> nice spelling
#126 [06:14] <ALASKAMAN> i am the owner
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#129 [07:00] <Calinou> ALASKAMAN, op yourself in the console: "op your_name"
#130 [07:00] <Calinou> without quotes
#131 [07:01] <ALASKAMAN> i am op
#132 [07:02] <Calinou> what plugins? type /pl to see
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#140 [07:44] <Re[m]> Hi
#141 [07:44] <Necrodoom> hi
#142 [07:46] <Grim_Reaper> Greetings
#143 [07:46] <Re[m]> I've a problem to launch my private server, when i launch the RUN.bat, an error appear and say "[ATTENTION] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind - [ATTENTION] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?" Likely something is already running on the port 25565 but when i try netstat -a in cmd, the port 25565
#144 [07:46] <Re[m]> isn't used, you know how i can resolve it ?
#145 [07:47] <lutzee> you have a server running already by the looks of it
#146 [07:47] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#147 [07:47] <Re[m]> Hum no, i just launch my computer, and i checked the ports, i don't think so
#148 [07:47] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe your firewall or something?
#149 [07:47] <Re[m]> It worked two days ago
#150 [07:48] <Re[m]> I don't touch anything about this
#151 [07:49] <Re[m]> I restart my computer to try again
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#153 [07:56] <lutzee> He might have another port set in the config maybe...
#154 [07:58] <Grim_Reaper> He should totally make it port 1337
#155 [08:00] <lutzee> 1337 UDP Men and Mice DNS Official
#156 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#157 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> What does the port number go up to again >_>
#158 [08:01] <lutzee> 65535 i believe
#159 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah sounds about right..
#160 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> 7113 ftw?
#161 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> i mean 7331 *
#162 [08:01] <lutzee> hehe
#163 [08:02] <lutzee> :o it isn't used!
#164 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#165 [08:05] <lutzee> hmmm kasperskey uses the same port i use for my lights out on my server..
#166 [08:05] <Grim_Reaper> Oh noes D:
#167 [08:07] <lutzee> bedrock.dnsalias.net:8086 is rather useful
#168 [08:08] <lutzee> er
#169 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> xp
#170 [08:08] <lutzee> http://bedrock.dnsalias.net:8086
#171 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> What is this lights out anyways
#172 [08:09] <Grim_Reaper> Pfft 404
#173 [08:09] <lutzee> what i just checked via proxy
#174 [08:09] <lutzee> lightout means i can boot my server from anywhere
#175 [08:09] <Grim_Reaper> Oh I see :3
#176 [08:10] <lutzee> means i can set it so my friends are able to boot the server when they want without hastle
#177 [08:11] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#178 [08:11] <Grim_Reaper> What does your server run os wise
#179 [08:11] <Grim_Reaper> And what hosts it?
#180 [08:12] <lutzee> ubuntu 10.04 atm, because i needed an easy thing to install first off
#181 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> I see.
#182 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> Is it a dedi or vps?
#183 [08:12] <lutzee> and it's an old HP rackserver
#184 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky :3
#185 [08:12] <lutzee> sits in my garage
#186 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> lolz
#187 [08:13] <lutzee> HP dl380 2x intel xeon dual cores 4gb ram
#188 [08:13] <Grim_Reaper> Mmm nice
#189 [08:15] <lutzee> £78 off ebay, 2gb ram to minecraft for me and 5 friends, + running teamspeak
#190 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> Not bad :3
#191 [08:17] <lutzee> I want 64bit in it now though....
#192 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> <3 64bit
#193 [08:21] <Boreeas> Port 9001 is usually unused, too
#194 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> 9001 :\
#195 [08:22] <Boreeas> Hey, my bouncer runs on that port! No hating allowed!
#196 [08:22] * Grim_Reaper hates on Boreeas's port
#196 [08:22] <Boreeas> (Well, it runs on 9001-9010 by now, but anyway)
#197 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#198 [08:22] <Boreeas> :<
#199 [08:23] <Grim_Reaper> So sup Boreeas
#200 [08:24] <Boreeas> The sky, planes, and zeppelins.
#201 [08:24] * Grim_Reaper rephrases. "How are you"
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#202 [08:25] <Boreeas> Pretty good, and you?
#203 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> Fine fine
#204 [08:26] <Fyori> Hello. I have just bought a new laptop, installed Minecraft, but the game frequently stops ...it says.. video drives has stopped... and Java Platform SE binary may be the problem
#205 [08:26] <Grim_Reaper> Have you updated all drivers and such?
#206 [08:26] <Necrodoom> ^
#207 [08:26] <Boreeas> Fyori: Please open the console and type "java --version"
#208 [08:26] <Boreeas> Also,
#209 [08:27] <Boreeas> ??> Fyori win/dxdiag
#210 [08:27] <VoxelHead> Fyori: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#211 [08:27] <VoxelHead> Fyori: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#212 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> http://cdn1.images.videobash.com/photos/000/046/629/46629.jpg
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#214 [08:34] <weirdo> hey
#215 [08:35] <Grim_Reaper> You're a weirdo
#216 [08:35] <weirdo> Does any1 know why my Minecraft is being alot more Dark everywhere than all my other friends?
#217 [08:35] <Necrodoom> theres brightness setting in options
#218 [08:35] <Grim_Reaper> Possibly your brightness settings for the game itself,graphics card settings, or your monitor
#219 [08:35] <weirdo> its full
#220 [08:35] <weirdo> but still
#221 [08:36] <lutzee> basic screen brightness?
#222 [08:36] <weirdo> 100% full also
#223 [08:36] <Grim_Reaper> o.O
#224 [08:36] <lutzee> they using texture packs?
#225 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> brightness of your screen itself, or the gamma of your graphics card?
#226 [08:36] <weirdo> could it be driver for my monitor
#227 [08:36] <weirdo> ?
#228 [08:36] <Grim_Reaper> Possibly
#229 [08:37] <lutzee> or their screens are just brighter
#230 [08:37] <lutzee> weirdo, also try turning the gamma up a bit
#231 [08:37] <DiskDaemon> Would it be worth it taking a screenshot, so we can see what its like?
#232 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> That would help eliminate issues within the operating system, or outside of it
#233 [08:38] <weirdo> hmm ye sure
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#235 [08:39] <weirdo> this is underground with block around me
#236 [08:39] <weirdo> how do i put in a screenshot?
#237 [08:39] <Grim_Reaper> F2
#238 [08:39] <Guest_> So...what's going on with buying the game? It keeps failing through PayPal
#239 [08:39] <weirdo> but how i upload
#240 [08:39] <lutzee> weirdo, use imgur to post images
#241 [08:39] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#242 [08:40] <Grim_Reaper> I thought paypal wasn't offered as a payment anymore
#243 [08:40] <lutzee> Guest_, try other means, credit card
#244 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> paypal for gift ones isn't allowed, for the full game it is
#245 [08:40] <Necrodoom> looks like its pretty much been shutdown
#246 [08:40] <lutzee> Grim_Reaper, only for buying account, cannot use it to buy a gift code
#247 [08:41] <Guest_> Lutzee, tried bank through paypal AND two cards that ALL have suffiecent funds to buy the game.
#248 [08:41] <weirdo> http://imgur.com/PEMUA
#249 [08:41] <Guest_> Can't use a credit card method as I'm in Illinois
#250 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh ok lutzee
#251 [08:41] <weirdo> thats my screen when blocks around me
#252 [08:41] <Necrodoom> Guest_: seen this issue a ton lately
#253 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> That looks like a rendering issue
#254 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> weirdo: How about when up on the surface, in the daylight?
#255 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried reinstalling minecraft from scratch?
#256 [08:42] <weirdo> ill upload 1 sec
#257 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> Because the status bars at the bottom don't seems to be all that dim
#258 [08:42] <weirdo> yes ive tried that
#259 [08:43] <Wombat> So any other ideas on purchasing?
#260 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> ??> weirdo win/dxdiag
#261 [08:43] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#262 [08:43] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#263 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> Wombat a credit card or something
#264 [08:43] <Wombat> can't use credit card payment, i'm in Illinois
#265 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm. Other than that, not too sure
#266 [08:44] <DiskDaemon> Does paypal have similar restrictions too then?
#267 [08:44] <Wombat> No, there's no way it could hold a restriction like that.
#268 [08:44] <weirdo> http://imgur.com/IsX3Q thats my screen when no blocks around me
#269 [08:44] <Wombat> At least, it wouldn't make sense to have a restriction like that because you're paying the merchant from paypal
#270 [08:44] <DiskDaemon> That last screenshot seems to be looking okay
#271 [08:44] <Wombat> And paypal doesn't have any kind of restrictions anywhere, unlike the company they're using for the CC purchases
#272 [08:44] <Grim_Reaper> weirdo that looks normal to me. But maybe it's your texture pack or something
#273 [08:45] <weirdo> no its still there with the default texturepack
#274 [08:45] <Grim_Reaper> Are you using any mods?
#275 [08:45] <lutzee> weirdo, id say its your texturepack
#276 [08:45] <DiskDaemon> It seems that paypal has issues in illinois as well - http://www.screw-paypal.com/resources/illinois.html
#277 [08:45] <weirdo> nope no mods
#278 [08:46] <Necrodoom> weirdo: thats not default texture pack
#279 [08:46] <Wombat> So apparently they don't want people in Illinois to play minecraft lol =/
#280 [08:46] <ALASKAMAN> anyidea whyi get this error when i am a op I'm sorry but you donothave permission to perform this commeand please contac the server administrators if you believe yjat thisis in error
#281 [08:46] <weirdo> nope but when i have normal texturepack i still have same problem
#282 [08:46] <lutzee> Wombat, thats to do with not having license or something
#283 [08:46] <Grim_Reaper> weirdo, try updating your drivers for video card, and try updating java. Make sure you have version 6. If you are running 64bit. Make sure you install both 32bit and 64bit
#284 [08:46] <Necrodoom> ALASKAMAN: what permission plugin
#285 [08:47] <lutzee> ALASKAMAN, if you have the permissions plugin installed you need to set yourself as the owner i believe
#286 [08:47] <weirdo> okay
#287 [08:47] <Wombat> lutzee, i understand that it's a license with that ONE company, but you would think with the amount of people that purchase the game...people in illinois are getting around it somehow?
#288 [08:47] <Wombat> actually, I should say two due to the link DiskDaemon posted
#289 [08:48] <lutzee> Wombat, might be worth talking to someone with a bit of knowledge of online payments
#290 [08:49] <lutzee> Anyway, might want to see if american express will work? (not that i know what it is exactly)
#291 [08:50] <Wombat> Don't have an amex card.
#292 [08:50] <DiskDaemon> Mojang also mention Illinois here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#293 [08:50] <Wombat> Yeah, I understand..not to be a douche or anything but I've already looked through all my options
#294 [08:51] <Wombat> I was coming in here hoping for a minecraft/mojang offical to help.
#295 [08:51] <Wombat> Guess I won't be purchasing anytime soon.
#296 [08:51] <Necrodoom> Wombat: this is unoffical chat
#297 [08:51] <Necrodoom> Wombat: no offical mojang guys here
#298 [08:51] <Necrodoom> except 1, i think
#299 [08:51] <lutzee> and mollstam isn't connected to his bouncer
#300 [08:51] <Wombat> eh it's fine i'll put it off.
#301 [08:52] <Wombat> thanks though guys, thought someone heard of a work around
#302 [08:52] <Grim_Reaper> Sowwi
#303 [08:52] <DiskDaemon> Maybe others in your area who have purchased Minecraft might be able to give you some clues
#304 [08:52] <Wombat> Yeah, waiting for them to wake up
#305 [08:52] <Wombat> It's 8am
#306 [08:52] <Wombat> lol
#307 [08:52] <Wombat> see you guys around
#308 [08:52] <DiskDaemon> all the best then
#309 [08:53] <ALASKAMAN> any one uses bPermissions
#310 [08:53] <lutzee> ALASKAMAN, look at the documentation on how to set it up
#311 [08:53] <lutzee> if not use something else
#312 [08:53] <weirdo> now i have both java 32 and 64 but still same proble
#313 [08:53] <weirdo> problem
#314 [08:53] <Grim_Reaper> Tried restarting your pc yet?
#315 [08:53] <lutzee> the server i'm admin on uses permissionsbukkit
#316 [08:54] <weirdo> nope
#317 [08:54] <Grim_Reaper> And have you tried updating your video drivers?
#318 [08:54] <weirdo> nope not yet :D
#319 [08:54] <Grim_Reaper> Be sure to do that too
#320 [08:55] <lutzee> hmm off topic but does anyone know a decent vps service for a bnc and TS server? :3
#321 [08:56] <ALASKAMAN> i can host them
#322 [08:56] <lutzee> mmmm i want a company... so i know i can get actual support, but thanks for the offer
#323 [08:57] <ALASKAMAN> i do runa hosting company
#324 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> One that is connecting alaskans
#325 [08:59] <lutzee> mmmm well i want it in Uk or europe preferably :p
#326 [09:00] <DiskDaemon> perhaps people in channels such as #freebnc might come up with related ideas
#327 [09:01] <ALASKAMAN> hehehehe it in ca.
#328 [09:01] <lutzee> british vps hosts seem to think 1gb ram is needed....
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#330 [09:04] <Steven> Hey
#331 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> well that nearly set a record - 28 seconds
#332 [09:10] <lutzee> hehe
#333 [09:10] <lutzee> anyway... chespest vps i have found is £7 that is in england...
#334 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> you know what they say. Cheap, good, fast - pick any two.
#335 [09:11] <lutzee> in the us i can get for £3 a month
#336 [09:16] <lutzee> hmm other option.. find a datacenter that i can put my server in... hmm
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#340 [09:35] <Calinou> <Wombat> I was coming in here hoping for a minecraft/mojang offical to help. < no sorry
#341 [09:36] <jamy> whis the person helping here?
#342 [09:36] <lutzee> jamy, you have a problem?
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#344 [09:37] <jamy> ahh, no. I fibt mean to waste your time but i jyst wanted to.say, You are all amazing. Very helpful thanks fir everything!
#345 [09:38] <jamy> sorry for yhe bad typing, im on my phone =P
#346 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome - thanks for the feedback
#347 [09:39] <jamy> thanks, see ya later.
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#352 [10:15] <IcyMountains_> Hello
#353 [10:15] <IcyMountains_> I need some help please
#354 [10:15] <lutzee> hey
#355 [10:15] <lutzee> whats your problem?
#356 [10:16] <IcyMountains_> I'm currently making a minecraft bukkit server
#357 [10:16] <lutzee> Okay
#358 [10:16] <IcyMountains_> I have set it up and portforwarded
#359 [10:16] <IcyMountains_> But i am the only one who can access it
#360 [10:16] <lutzee> !check IcyMountains_
#361 [10:16] <IcyMountains_> I have asked multiple people to try
#362 [10:16] <lutzee> er
#363 [10:17] <IcyMountains_> How do they look grim for me?
#364 [10:17] <lutzee> it was checking for a server
#365 [10:17] <lutzee> but ti didn't work
#366 [10:17] <lutzee> what's your external IP adress?
#367 [10:17] <IcyMountains_> Oh, right
#368 [10:17] <IcyMountains_> Ummm
#369 [10:17] <IcyMountains_> How do i find this?
#370 [10:18] <lutzee> got it never mind
#371 [10:18] <lutzee> !check 92.238.62.43
#372 [10:18] <IcyMountains_> ?
#373 [10:18] <lutzee> portforwading hsn't worked
#374 [10:18] <IcyMountains_> I need help then, pleas
#375 [10:18] <IcyMountains_> I have tried 4 times now >_>
#376 [10:18] <IcyMountains_> And i thought this time i would have worked
#377 [10:18] <lutzee> What model and brand of router do you have?
#378 [10:19] <IcyMountains_> BRB
#379 [10:19] <DiskDaemon> I have to get some sleep, but two major blockages are antivirus and firewall. Those can be temporarily disabled in order to determine if they are getting in the way, and which one of them needs to be modified
#380 [10:20] <lutzee> DiskDaemon, AuBot would have detected the open port though
#381 [10:20] <IcyMountains_> I have a Netgear Virgin Media SuperHub VMDG480
#382 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, I thought AuBot only responds if it gets a response back from the server
#383 [10:21] <lutzee> ah right okay makes my life a little easier
#384 [10:21] <IcyMountains_> I have tried using portforwarding.com and simple port forwarding
#385 [10:21] <IcyMountains_> !check lutzee
#386 [10:21] <IcyMountains_> lol
#387 [10:21] <IcyMountains_> Magic!
#388 [10:21] <lutzee> that won't work
#389 [10:22] <lutzee> !ip
#390 [10:22] <IcyMountains_> ik
#391 [10:22] <IcyMountains_> !ip
#392 [10:22] <lutzee> :ip
#393 [10:22] <IcyMountains_> ?
#394 [10:22] <lutzee> damn forgot what it was
#395 [10:22] <IcyMountains_> !ip
#396 [10:22] <lutzee> IcyMountains_, doesn't exist
#397 [10:22] <IcyMountains_> You found it then?
#398 [10:23] <IcyMountains_> What ip do u need?
#399 [10:23] <lutzee> http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=344627&CURRENT_CMD=SEARCH&CONFIGURATION=1002&PARTITION_ID=1&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTY=us&VM_CUSTOMER_TYPE=Cable
#400 [10:23] <lutzee> was trying to grab my own IP
#401 [10:23] <IcyMountains_> lol
#402 [10:24] <IcyMountains_> do i go there?
#403 [10:24] <lutzee> that link has the portforward guide form virgin.
#404 [10:25] <IcyMountains_> Thank you very much
#405 [10:25] <IcyMountains_> Shall i give feed back after doing this?
#406 [10:25] <IcyMountains_> Or shall i bog off?
#407 [10:26] <lutzee> you free to stay
#408 [10:26] <IcyMountains_> Thank you very, very much though, my good man :D
#409 [10:29] <IcyMountains_> I have already come up with a problem :/
#410 [10:29] <lutzee> what is that?
#411 [10:30] <IcyMountains_> I cant get onto my router options
#412 [10:30] <IcyMountains_> by going to
#413 [10:30] <IcyMountains_> 192.168.0.1
#414 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> ipconfig will show the address you need to use as your Default Gateway
#415 [10:31] <lutzee> ^
#416 [10:31] <IcyMountains_> Thanks
#417 [10:31] <lutzee> start > run > cmd > type ipconfig /all
#418 [10:31] <lutzee> find default gateway
#419 [10:32] <IcyMountains_> Thats what it says
#420 [10:32] <IcyMountains_> But
#421 [10:32] <IcyMountains_> It won't
#422 [10:32] <IcyMountains_> work
#423 [10:32] <DiskDaemon> what happens instead?
#424 [10:34] <IcyMountains_> Comes up with internet explorer cannot display the webpage
#425 [10:34] <lutzee> in cmd do "ping 192.168.0.1"
#426 [10:34] <lutzee> tell me if packets are recieved or fail
#427 [10:35] <IcyMountains_> recieved
#428 [10:35] <lutzee> okay hmm
#429 [10:35] <lutzee> this is going to sound rather odd, but go to 192.168.100.1 in your browser
#430 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains_: How did you port forward it the other time?
#431 [10:39] <lutzee> hehe, btw thats the IP adress for the router if it's been put in modem only mod
#432 [10:39] <lutzee> mode*
#433 [10:39] <lutzee> if only one PC is being connected and wireless is not needed a virgin installer might put it in that mode as only one PC is being connected
#434 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> ahh, intriguing
#435 [10:40] <lutzee> mines set to modem mode so we can use our cisco router :3
#436 [10:40] <DiskDaemon> wouldn't the gateway info from ipconfig have shown that though too?
#437 [10:40] <DiskDaemon> But then, we're presuming that he actually looked at that
#438 [10:41] <lutzee> gateway might still show default
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#442 [10:43] <Guest45619> Hey, I downloaded minecraft on my new laptop and I haven't been able to connect to minecraft.net for three days. Any ideas? I have a good internet connection.
#443 [10:43] <lutzee> Guest45619, what is your antivirus?
#444 [10:43] <Boreeas> Guest45619: What AV program do you use?
#445 [10:43] <Guest45619> .....right now, Mcafee
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#447 [10:44] <lutzee> diasble the firewall and try again
#448 [10:44] <tommy71394> Hi
#449 [10:44] <Calinou> lolmcafee
#450 [10:44] <tommy71394> Ummm
#451 [10:44] <Calinou> hi tommy71394? don't ask to ask, we don't bite
#452 [10:44] <Guest45619> alright lemme see what that does!
#453 [10:44] <tommy71394> I want to ask something... In Bukkit
#454 [10:44] <tommy71394> Some server has console for superadmins
#455 [10:44] <Boreeas> tommy71394: For that, try #bukkit
#456 [10:44] <Calinou> > #bukkit may be a better place
#457 [10:44] <tommy71394> Ok..
#458 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> or #bukkithelp
#459 [10:44] <Boreeas> #bukkit is more active than #bukkithelp
#460 [10:44] <Calinou> there's not much people in #bukkithelp - usually people use #bukkit for discussion
#461 [10:45] <Boreeas> Also has about 8 times more people
#462 [10:45] <Calinou> and for help too
#463 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> more active it good then :)
#464 [10:45] <houseofknox> i can't get minecraft to load. what am i doing wrong?
#465 [10:45] <Boreeas> houseofknox: What exact error do you get?
#466 [10:45] <lutzee> hehe 1000% more people in #bukkit
#467 [10:45] <Guest45619> I disabled my firewall, no luck
#468 [10:45] <Guest45619> still can't connect
#469 [10:45] <Boreeas> Where was the hosts file again?
#470 [10:46] <houseofknox> i dont' get an error. it says data loaded then just a black screen
#471 [10:46] <Boreeas> ?? host
#472 [10:46] <Boreeas> ?? hosts
#473 [10:46] <lutzee> c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
#474 [10:46] <lutzee> i believe
#475 [10:46] <Boreeas> ??> Guest45619 win/hosts
#476 [10:46] <VoxelHead> Guest45619: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#477 [10:46] <VoxelHead> Guest45619: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#478 [10:46] <Guest45619> ok hold on
#479 [10:48] <Guest45619> uh, what is pastebin>
#480 [10:49] <Guest45619> ?
#481 [10:49] <Boreeas> http://pastebin.com
#482 [10:49] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com
#483 [10:49] <Guest45619> http://pastebin.com/pKiBVNvz
#484 [10:50] <Boreeas> That looks good
#485 [10:51] <Guest45619> I can download minecraft on more than one computer, right? I have it on my desktop already
#486 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#487 [10:52] <Guest45619> ok, just checking. that was kinda a noob question
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#491 [10:54] <Guest45619> Is there anything else I should try?
#492 [10:54] <lutzee> hmmm turning off our antivirus completely, so it isn't running
#493 [10:55] <Calinou> paid antiviruses usually suck anyway :P
#494 [10:58] <Guest45619> yeah, the only reason have have it right now is because I just got this computer. anyways, I shut down the antivirus and it didn't work either
#495 [11:02] <Guest45619> mcafee usually fucks around with stuff, so I'm surprised that didn't work
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#499 [11:03] <IcyMountains> Hello
#500 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#501 [11:03] <IcyMountains> Sorry bout that
#502 [11:03] <IcyMountains> Computer messed
#503 [11:03] <dawsonmichiels> Purchased the game lastnight and I have an order number and still no premium sevice
#504 [11:03] <lutzee> dawsonmichiels, check your bank accout, has the payment gone through?
#505 [11:03] <IcyMountains> lutzee
#506 [11:04] <IcyMountains> Did you tell me to go to 192.168.100.1?
#507 [11:04] <lutzee> yes is did
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#509 [11:04] <dawsonmichiels> I called the bank and they said that it was on hold for a fraud alert due to the company being based in the UK. The payment has now been pushed through
#510 [11:04] <Guest45619> Just found out you can't curse here
#511 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> You may need to check your bank again, if the payment was denied the first time, it most likely didn't go through
#512 [11:04] <lutzee> ahh okay you need to contact moneybookers they are the ones who have refused the payment
#513 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> Your best bet is to cancel the payment, then try again
#514 [11:05] <lutzee> moneybookers wont accept the payment unless you contact them
#515 [11:05] <IcyMountains> fuck
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#517 [11:05] <lutzee> Guest45619, yes, you did
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#519 [11:05] <dawsonmichiels> the bank lifted the fraud and I tried again and now it is saying something about 24 hour hold
#520 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's moneybookers for you
#521 [11:06] <lutzee> yes that is moneybookers, the people who deal with minecrafts credit/debitcard payments
#522 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> At this point, you can either wait 24 hours and try moneybookers again, or try paypal
#523 [11:06] <Guest45619> alright then, other than antivirus, firewall, and host files is there anything I can do to try and get minecraft running?
#524 [11:06] <dawsonmichiels> ill try paypal
#525 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Guest45619 - What's happening?
#526 [11:07] <dawsonmichiels> how do i contact moneybookers
#527 [11:07] <lutzee> Guest45619, sounds like the problem lies between your PC and minecraft
#528 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Hold on
#529 [11:07] <lutzee> GreyVulpine, can't connect to login servers
#530 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net?
#531 [11:07] <Guest45619> yup that's it
#532 [11:07] <IcyMountains> lutzee
#533 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> New computer?
#534 [11:07] <Guest45619> yup
#535 [11:07] <Guest45619> brand new
#536 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Guest45619 - Silly question, does your windows username happen to have a ! mark in it?
#537 [11:07] <IcyMountains> @lutzee It's taking forever to load, I think the chances of that gateway is slim.
#538 [11:08] <Guest45619> my minecraft or windows user?
#539 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Windows username, the one you use to log into your computer
#540 [11:08] <lutzee> IcyMountains, okay it's not there
#541 [11:08] <Guest45619> yes....
#542 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it
#543 [11:08] <IcyMountains> *Confused*
#544 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Make a new windows user account, then try minecraft again
#545 [11:08] <lutzee> IcyMountains, atm i have no clue why you cannot connect to your router
#546 [11:08] <lutzee> try restarting it
#547 [11:08] <Guest45619> damn. thank you!
#548 [11:08] <IcyMountains> I did.
#549 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> It's a very common problem, getting "can't connect to minecraft.net", when people get a new computer, and have a ! at the end of their windows username
#550 [11:09] <IcyMountains> @lutzee why does your name go red sometimes?
#551 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Because lutzee is mentioning your name
#552 [11:09] <IcyMountains> !Check
#553 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> like this: IcyMountains.
#554 [11:10] <Guest45619> well this is gonna blow
#555 [11:10] <IcyMountains> Wow, thats cool GreyVulpine
#556 [11:10] <lutzee> Guest45619, there is some obscure problem with java that does not like and ! in your user name
#557 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Not obscure
#558 [11:10] <lutzee> er okay
#559 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> C:\users\username!\application data\.minecraft
#560 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> See what happens to the filepath?
#561 [11:11] <IcyMountains> Who, oh why, oh why does this computer have to hate me?
#562 [11:11] <Guest45619> yeah I know there are some characters in java you can't use, just didn't think it mattered for a windows username
#563 [11:11] * GreyVulpine nods
#563 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> It does, in the case of java, because it can't parse that correctly
#564 [11:11] * IcyMountains ffs
#564 [11:12] <IcyMountains> Help me, greyvulpine or lutzee
#565 [11:13] <IcyMountains> Hallo IcyMountains
#566 [11:13] <lutzee> IcyMountains, try connecting to 192.168.0.1 in your browser again..
#567 [11:13] <IcyMountains> ok
#568 [11:14] <Guest45619> peace!
#569 [11:14] <IcyMountains> It takes forever :/
#570 [11:16] <IcyMountains> Cannot reach webpage, lutzee
#571 [11:16] <IcyMountains> !check IcyMountains
#572 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Start from the beginning.
#573 [11:17] <lutzee> if you cannot connect to your routers web interface then there isn't much i can do
#574 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Windows, I take it?
#575 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the router's ip is 0.1?
#576 [11:17] <IcyMountains> Yes, windows 7
#577 [11:17] <IcyMountains> look
#578 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#579 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, at the black command prompt, put in: ipconfig
#580 [11:17] <IcyMountains> Wai
#581 [11:17] <IcyMountains> *Wait
#582 [11:18] <IcyMountains> Do you have team viewer?
#583 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#584 [11:18] <IcyMountains> Shall we do it that way?
#585 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> If you wish
#586 [11:18] <IcyMountains> ok :d
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#589 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, something's funky with his router, won't let his computer connect to it
#590 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> He's going to reboot it now
#591 [11:41] <lutzee> yeah, I've not had a problem connecting to my one but i never need to in modem mode
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#593 [11:43] <IcyMountains> Grey
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#595 [11:44] <IcyMountains> Grey
#596 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#597 [11:44] <IcyMountains> It worked
#598 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah, great
#599 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Give me just a moment
#600 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm still there?
#601 [11:46] <IcyMountains> Yes
#602 [11:46] <IcyMountains> Sorry
#603 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Connection borked itself.
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#605 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> ;check IcyMountains
#606 [11:52] <WugBot> cpc2-tonb3-2-0-cust42.croy.cable.virginmedia.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#607 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> And it seems to work
#608 [11:52] <IcyMountains> !check IcyMountains
#609 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Just do !check
#610 [11:53] <IcyMountains> !check
#611 [11:53] <IcyMountains> Grey
#612 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#613 [11:53] <IcyMountains> Can you test it with me and help me find my server ip please?
#614 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#615 [11:54] <IcyMountains> Can you see if you can access it from your computer
#616 [11:54] <IcyMountains> ?
#617 [11:54] <IcyMountains> plz
#618 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> One moment please
#619 [12:24] <superkabii> !check 127.0.0.1
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#622 [12:28] <Dragon_EX> i need a link to a java 6 download for a 32 bit os
#623 [12:32] <Dan> hey what level can i get fortune pick?
#624 [12:36] <Calinou> Dragon_EX, http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html - consider your question answered :)
#625 [12:36] <TheNytangel> Dragon_EX: 32 bit os... what os
#626 [12:36] <Calinou> Windows x86 Offline = 32 bit windows
#627 [12:36] <Calinou> Linux x86 = 32 bit linux
#628 [12:36] <Calinou> Dan, depends - see the wiki! http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchanting
#629 [12:37] <Dan> i am but it doesnt really say
#630 [12:37] <Calinou> and http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment_Mechanics
#631 [12:37] <Calinou> this too: http://cloud.github.com/downloads/Zazcallabah/mce/mce.v1.8.html
#632 [12:37] <lutzee> then asume any enchanting level, just really rare
#633 [12:37] <Calinou> (relevant to 1.2.5; not snapshots)
#634 [12:37] <Calinou> no, on diamond you cannot get fortune with level 1 lutzee :P
#635 [12:38] <lutzee> i said assume :p meaning the assumption could infact be wrong
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#644 [13:47] <Eclipse_Koray> Hey.
#645 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> Hello there
#646 [13:47] <Eclipse_Koray> I'm having some problems with Minecraft.
#647 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> What exactly is the issue?
#648 [13:48] <Eclipse_Koray> Well, it has something to do with the video card drivers, but mine are completely updated. Is it just a relic or what?
#649 [13:48] <Eclipse_Koray> It's a Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family card.
#650 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> Whats happening though?
#651 [13:49] <Eclipse_Koray> Do you need to see the error code?
#652 [13:49] <TheNytangel> Yes
#653 [13:49] <TheNytangel> :P
#654 [13:49] <Eclipse_Koray> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#655 [13:50] <TheNytangel> Use pastebin.com
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#657 [13:50] <Eclipse_Koray> It says, "BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271"
#658 [13:50] <Eclipse_Koray> "Bad video card drivers!"
#659 [13:51] <Eclipse_Koray> Then something with this in it: [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#660 [13:51] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray paste it at pastebin.com
#661 [13:51] <Eclipse_Koray> Okay?
#662 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> And then just give us the link
#663 [13:53] <Eclipse_Koray> http://pastebin.com/v6qy1wfK
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#665 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray do you have a panel for your graphics driver?
#666 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> Some settings panel at all?
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#668 [13:55] <Eclipse_Koray> This AuBot is saying to update the drivers... I've freaking done that around ten times now! I know how to find out my video card, how to update it using the control panel, I've also done it with the device manager! Agh, this is just frustrating.
#669 [13:55] <cdmskater> hello. I'm having trouble creating an account. I've been through the process several times and cant get the system to accept any of the three email accounts I Have. Im told it's already in use. One is in use with minecraft for one child
#670 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray it's a bot it doesn't know better :p
#671 [13:55] <cdmskater> the other two have not been touched.
#672 [13:55] <cdmskater> can't find an email address to ask for help
#673 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> cdmskater are you sure the username is valid?
#674 [13:56] <Eclipse_Koray> It's still a son of a mother board... >_>
#675 [13:56] <cdmskater> I have started from the begining several times
#676 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Protip, device manager will never give you the latest video drivers
#677 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#678 [13:56] <Eclipse_Koray> ... Wish I knew that eight tries ago.
#679 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah...
#680 [13:57] <Eclipse_Koray> I've also gone to Intel's site and they say there are no new drivers for it.
#681 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> What card do you have, and how much RAM is on your system?
#682 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> ??> Eclipse_Koray win/dxdiag
#683 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> ??> Eclipse_Koray win/dxdiag
#684 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> damnit
#685 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> ??!
#686 [13:58] <Eclipse_Koray> Scroll up, Grey.
#687 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> The bot died
#688 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh, no voxelhead
#689 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray do you know how to open dxdiag?
#690 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> And how much RAM?
#691 [13:58] <Eclipse_Koray> Of course. I've done that.
#692 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> Ok would you please generate a report
#693 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> And copy paste it to pastebin
#694 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> And naturally, give us the link after
#695 [13:59] <Eclipse_Koray> How do I do the report...?
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#697 [14:00] <Grim_Reaper> Click save all information
#698 [14:01] <IcyMountains> I need to allocate some more memory
#699 [14:01] <IcyMountains> Can anyonehelp
#700 [14:03] <Eclipse_Koray> Here: http://pastebin.com/9Uhk8d4J
#701 [14:03] <Eclipse_Koray> As for you, Icy. Sorry. I don't know how to do that. I bet someone else does.
#702 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine. See anything that might be helpful to finding his driver page?
#703 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Im awful at finding updates for Intel x_x
#704 [14:05] <Eclipse_Koray> Been there, found that: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/chpsts/965m
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#706 [14:09] <PizzaG> hey guys, got the xbox360 version asnd unsure how to make a pickaxe so i can mine coal and make a torch
#707 [14:09] <PizzaG> kinda a noob to this fun addicting game
#708 [14:09] <Eclipse_Koray> Easy.
#709 [14:09] <Eclipse_Koray> Two sticks from wooden planks
#710 [14:09] <Eclipse_Koray> and three stone/iron on top
#711 [14:09] <Eclipse_Koray> ingots for the iron btw
#712 [14:10] <PizzaG> where do i find the planks?
#713 [14:10] <Eclipse_Koray> from wood aka logs
#714 [14:10] <lutzee> PizzaG, do you have the tips turned on?
#715 [14:10] <Eclipse_Koray> go punch a tree for some. Then place the log/wood into your inventory crafting "table" and itll automatically make 4 wooden planks.
#716 [14:10] <lutzee> everything is explained i believe
#717 [14:11] <Eclipse_Koray> Then place two wooden planks in your crafting inventory in a straight, vertical line to make four sticks.
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#719 [14:12] <Eclipse_Koray> Oh! First you will need a crafting table. Go grab more wood and make them into wooden planks. Place all four in a square shape in your inventory crafting to make the table. Afterwards, place the sticks in the center of the table in a vertical line from the bottom. then the stone on the top three spaces. aka a T
#720 [14:13] <PizzaG> oh my goodness, lol
#721 [14:13] <PizzaG> thats alot of stuff just to get going
#722 [14:13] <Eclipse_Koray> You'll get the hang of it.
#723 [14:14] <Eclipse_Koray> I can help you but I don't want to say my e-mail in a chat room like this.
#724 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> You can /query a person for private message
#725 [14:14] <Eclipse_Koray> Oh. Thanks.
#726 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> Also Eclipse_Koray. Im not sure what else to try other than updating your java to the latest version of it isn't already
#727 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> Or if you have a setting for opengl accelerated mode on your graphics drivers settings. Turn that on
#728 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> But other than that. Im really not sure what else to suggest
#729 [14:15] <Eclipse_Koray> Great. I might just be screwed then.
#730 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> I dont think so
#731 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine when he's around will most likely find something of use to help you run the game
#732 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> He's awesome at finding intel drivers
#733 [14:16] <Eclipse_Koray> Hey, Pizza G. See the tab up on top that says my name? Click that so we can talk.
#734 [14:16] <Eclipse_Koray> Okay, Grim.
#735 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe Boreeas might know too. But not sure if he's around either
#736 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> But I need to go now, sorry I couldn't be of any help
#737 [14:17] <Eclipse_Koray> Golden Sun referrence?
#738 [14:17] <Eclipse_Koray> It's okay.
#739 [14:17] <PizzaG> im playing with my 7 year old. just unlocked the crafting table. now hopefully i can get something going. thanks guys
#740 [14:18] <Calinou> "unlocked" > you don't unlock crafting recipes ;)
#741 [14:18] <Calinou> only achievements
#742 [14:18] <Calinou> these are useless anyway
#743 [14:22] <PizzaG> anyone have the xbox version? i read they just came out with an update for the xbox version yesterday
#744 [14:22] <PizzaG> would love to get that update but cant get on live since i have modded xbox
#745 [14:22] <lutzee> PizzaG, most people on here play the pc version
#746 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> :| pirate
#747 [14:23] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: modding an xbox doesnt mean he pirated it
#748 [14:23] <Wug> not necessarily
#749 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> Possible pirate that is
#750 [14:23] <Wug> PizzaG: did you pirate it
#751 [14:23] <PizzaG> lol
#752 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> Also wug why are you stalking me :|
#753 [14:23] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: shrivel up. I just got out of bed
#754 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#755 [14:23] <Eclipse_Koray> Says the Grim Reaper.
#756 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> Apparently Im not going anywhere just yet :|
#757 [14:24] <PizzaG> arghh, shiver me timbers, lol
#758 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> Thought supper was ready ;;
#759 [14:24] <Eclipse_Koray> Psyche?
#760 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Naa.
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#762 [14:25] <staggger4111> hey can someone help meh a sec? :L
#763 [14:25] <Eclipse_Koray> Do you know what day 1.2.6 will be released?
#764 [14:25] <Calinou> Eclipse_Koray, unlikely; 1.3 might be released sooner or later.
#765 [14:25] <Eclipse_Koray> Oh, whoops. Take care of him first. ^
#766 [14:26] <staggger4111> just tried to login minecraft, the windows dissapears......
#767 [14:26] <Calinou> we are not affiliated with mojang; we can't know; patience is a virtue
#768 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray, none of us know
#769 [14:26] <Calinou> staggger4111, what operating system, what java version?
#770 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Not even the staff of mojang know
#771 [14:26] <staggger4111> um windows vista, and pretty sure latest java
#772 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Open command prompt "Start > type in search bar cmd, press enter"
#773 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Then type java -version
#774 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> And press enter
#775 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> See what it says
#776 [14:26] <Wug> PizzaG: this channel is for those who have paid for the game (or who are using the free classic version)
#777 [14:27] <staggger4111> i have payed for the game, dont worry
#778 [14:27] <Grim_Reaper> staggger4111 wug was talking to somebody else :p
#779 [14:27] <Eclipse_Koray> He said that he "modded" the Xbox. It doesn't mean he didn
#780 [14:27] <Eclipse_Koray> 't
#781 [14:27] <Eclipse_Koray> whoops. Didn't pay for the game.
#782 [14:27] <staggger4111> 1.7.0_04-b22. is what it says?
#783 [14:28] <staggger4111> ah .-.
#784 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Theres known problems with java 7
#785 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Uninstall it, restart your pc
#786 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Then download version 6
#787 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> If you're running 64bit
#788 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Be sure to install both 32bit and 64bit
#789 [14:28] <staggger4111> um alright
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#791 [14:30] <melnarik> hello
#792 [14:30] <Eclipse_Koray> Sup.
#793 [14:30] <melnarik> i need help running minecrafft
#794 [14:31] <Eclipse_Koray> Be more specific.
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#797 [14:32] <melnarik> i click it and it says... No JVM could be found on your system Please define EXE4J_JAVA_HOME to point to an installed 32-bit JDK or JRE or download a JRE from java.com
#798 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Do you have java installed?
#799 [14:32] <melnarik> ya
#800 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> What operating system are you running?
#801 [14:33] <melnarik> x64
#802 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> And the OS? windows? or
#803 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Also have you got 32bit version of java installed as well?
#804 [14:33] <melnarik> windows
#805 [14:33] <melnarik> im not sure, so I need 32bit version
#806 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#807 [14:34] <Eclipse_Koray> Why would java need both bit versions of itself installed? I never figured that out.
#808 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> If you're running 64bit
#809 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> You need both 32bit and 64bit installed
#810 [14:34] <melnarik> ok let me do that quick
#811 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray Im not too sure. But it's always suggested
#812 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Even I have both versions of java installed
#813 [14:35] <Eclipse_Koray> Hm. Maybe I should check to see if they're BOTH up to date then.
#814 [14:35] <Grim_Reaper> Also melnarik. If you can. Please click start > in the search bar type cmd, press enter. In the command prompt, please type "java -version" without the quotes and press enter. See what it says
#815 [14:35] <melnarik> ok ill do that
#816 [14:36] <melnarik> its version is 1.7.0_05
#817 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Ok java version 7 has a lot of issues with minecraft
#818 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> please uninstall all versions of java on y our pc
#819 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Restart your pc
#820 [14:37] <melnarik> i downloaded lava x32 and it said i already had the same version of the product
#821 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Then download and install both 32bit and 64bit versions of java 1.6
#822 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> This should most likely fix your issue
#823 [14:37] <Eclipse_Koray> Where do I find 1.6? I have 1.7 too.
#824 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Eclipse_Koray, it should be on their site somewhere. Possibly under previos versions if java 7 has been changed to the official version
#825 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> I need to go now. Supper time for real though. BYe
#826 [14:38] <melnarik> ok i will come back on when it is restarted
#827 [14:38] <Eclipse_Koray> lol.
#828 [14:38] <melnarik> wait i need 1.6, not 1.7
#829 [14:39] <Eclipse_Koray> That's what he said.
#830 [14:39] <melnarik> ok
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#832 [14:39] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#833 [14:39] <Calinou> Windows x86 Offline = 32 bit java 6, Windows x64 = 64 bit java 6
#834 [14:40] <staggger4111> just downloaded it and resterted. mc still dissapears :L
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#838 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> hello?
#839 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> hello!?
#840 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> anyone??
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#842 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> hello
#843 [14:50] <disturb> hello
#844 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> hey do u mod?
#845 [14:50] <disturb> yes
#846 [14:50] <isuckatmodding> mac or pc?
#847 [14:50] <disturb> pc
#848 [14:51] <isuckatmodding> damit
#849 [14:51] <disturb> why ?
#850 [14:51] <isuckatmodding> i need some one with a mac
#851 [14:51] <disturb> ah sorry
#852 [14:51] <isuckatmodding> iv been trying to downlode the bigger mods like more pistons and clay solders but it never seems to work
#853 [14:51] <lutzee> isuckatmodding, ask in #risucraft
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#855 [14:51] <isuckatmodding> how?
#856 [14:52] <disturb> go to youtube and type how install mods on minecraft (mac)
#857 [14:52] <disturb> and see
#858 [14:52] <isuckatmodding> i have and i follow them step by step every friken time but they never work
#859 [14:52] <lutzee> isuckatmodding, do /join #risucraft
#860 [14:52] <Calinou> -_- another "how i make mods" guy
#861 [14:52] <Calinou> lutzee, troll hole
#862 [14:52] <Calinou> he'll get a lot of RTFMs there
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#865 [15:08] <Boreeas> Calinou: I'm tempted to say that he deserves it though :P
#866 [15:09] <Calinou> yeah
#867 [15:10] <lutzee> it's okay i'm having a go at him for not knowing how to use his mac...
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#869 [15:17] <Anonymous53> hello
#870 [15:17] <lutzee> hey
#871 [15:18] <Anonymous53> i have a question and no answer by looking on the internet is there a way to reset the skin so i can play with a HD skin? or i have to buy a new account?
#872 [15:19] <Devin> Reset your character skin?
#873 [15:19] <Anonymous53> u mean from minecraft.net download and upload the default skin?
#874 [15:20] <Devin> Are you wanting to change your character skin?
#875 [15:20] <lutzee> You cannot use a HD skin as far as i know... and even if you could you'd be the only person to see it i guess
#876 [15:20] <Anonymous53> no i have but now i want to play with a skin from texture pack but dosent work
#877 [15:21] <Anonymous53> i dont play on internet i can use it
#878 [15:21] <Anonymous53> its for me dont for the others :D
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#880 [15:22] <Anonymous53> and i know this but i dont know to reset the skin from skindex
#881 [15:22] <lutzee> oh right
#882 [15:22] <lutzee> yes
#883 [15:22] <Anonymous53> befor i try this skin i have see my default skin in HD
#884 [15:22] <lutzee> download and reupload default skin
#885 [15:22] <Anonymous53> okay i give it a try
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#894 [15:42] <Anonymous53> you can have the default skin in a fake way too - will not use minecraft.jar/texture pack char.png i dont understand
#895 [15:42] <Anonymous53> what do u mean
#896 [15:42] <Anonymous53> i have copy the skin from texture pack do minecraft.jar but doesnt work
#897 [15:43] <Anonymous53> *to
#898 [15:45] <Calinou> Anonymous53, fake way as in: taking the default skin from minecraft.jar and using it as your skin
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#900 [15:46] <Anonymous53> ahhhh but it dosent support HD skin yes
#901 [15:46] <Anonymous53> its the same way download the default from minecraft.net i think
#902 [15:46] <Anonymous53> ?
#903 [15:48] <Calinou> Anonymous53, no, no HD skin
#904 [15:49] <Calinou> too bad optifine doesn't have a "force default skin for everyone" setting - could be useful
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#907 [15:51] <Wug> wouldnt be that great
#908 [15:51] <Wug> skins are like 2 kb
#909 [15:52] <awesomegamer55> in my .minecraft folder i have only lastlogin and bin.... how do i get the rest of the folder???
#910 [15:52] <Calinou> Wug, talking about HD/inappropriate
#911 [15:52] <Wug> lool
#912 [15:53] <Calinou> > everyone has HD skin on your client
#913 [15:53] <Calinou> > makes parents shut up
#914 [15:53] <Calinou> I'd mostly like the former
#915 [15:53] <Wug> welp since wugbot died
#916 [15:53] <lutzee> awesomegamer55, forceupdate
#917 [15:53] <Wug> I'm going to dig up the design for the improved flood protection thingy
#918 [15:53] <awesomegamer55> i tried that and it still doesnt work
#919 [15:54] <lutzee> delete the bin folder
#920 [15:54] <Calinou> awesomegamer55, what operating system/java version?
#921 [15:54] <Calinou> try disabling your antivirus
#922 [15:54] <Calinou> and firewall
#923 [15:54] <lutzee> ^
#924 [15:54] <lutzee> that too
#925 [15:54] <awesomegamer55> hoe do i check the java version???
#926 [15:54] <lutzee> open comand prompt
#927 [15:54] <lutzee> do "java --version
#928 [15:55] <lutzee> without the quotes
#929 [15:55] <Calinou> windows+r - type in "cmd" no quotes
#930 [15:55] <Calinou> "java -version" without quotes, once you're in cmd
#931 [15:57] <Anonymous53> yea thats was to be nice if OF have force skin :D
#932 [15:57] <Anonymous53> or minecraft.net a default skin button ...
#933 [15:59] <Anonymous53> so anyone have a link for a asowme ugly pixel skin? xd
#934 [16:00] <awesomegamer55> it is not working when i type in java version
#935 [16:00] <Wug> awesomegamer55: use the absolute path
#936 [16:00] <awesomegamer55> what???? how do i do that
#937 [16:00] <lutzee> awesomegamer55, you are doing java --version not java version
#938 [16:00] <lutzee> need a double dash before version
#939 [16:01] <Wug> lutzee: nope, its just -version
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#941 [16:01] <lutzee> oh right
#942 [16:01] <awesomegamer55> nope it still doesnt work
#943 [16:02] <Wug> awesomegamer55: can you open the control panel and list the versions of java it says are installed
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#945 [16:03] <venom> hello
#946 [16:04] <venom> http://pastebin.com/5EvB7TJ0 can you tell me how to help with this?
#947 [16:04] <Calinou> "# C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\hs_err_pid1160.log"
#948 [16:05] <Calinou> "===========#Risucraft==========="
#949 [16:05] <Calinou> you cannot use mods with the browser version - use the downloaded version instead
#950 [16:05] <venom> I don't have mods
#951 [16:05] <venom> I just installed the game
#952 [16:05] <Boreeas> ??> venom win/dxdiag
#953 [16:05] <lutzee> Calinou, he's using the batfile that is linked from risucraft all the time
#954 [16:05] <venom> and I came from #risucraft, they told me to come here
#955 [16:05] <Boreeas> Calinou: It's a gl error
#956 [16:06] <_303> because it's no issue with mods, you see
#957 [16:06] <Calinou> could be graphics card issue yes
#958 [16:06] <Boreeas> atioglxx.dll
#959 [16:06] <_303> and you guys got this
#960 [16:06] <Boreeas> His drivers a faulty
#961 [16:06] <venom> hmm
#962 [16:06] <Boreeas> Damn it, the bot is gone
#963 [16:06] <venom> okay, i'll see where I can update my drivers
#964 [16:06] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Fix yer bot
#965 [16:06] <venom> thanks for the help
#966 [16:06] <Boreeas> venom: Give us a second and we can help you
#967 [16:06] <venom> okay
#968 [16:07] <Boreeas> venom: Press the windows key + R
#969 [16:07] <venom> done
#970 [16:07] <Boreeas> In the box that appears, type "dxdiag" and hit enter. If asked about WHQL, click yes
#971 [16:08] <Boreeas> It will run the test. In the window that appears, there will be a button - "Save information" or something like that in the lower left corner. Hit that button and save the file to you desktop, then open it.
#972 [16:08] <Boreeas> Go to http://pastebin.com and paste the content of the file, than give us the resulting link
#973 [16:09] <venom> http://pastebin.com/48zntQgU
#974 [16:10] <Boreeas> venom: That's a laptop, right?
#975 [16:10] <venom> yes
#976 [16:11] <Boreeas> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/catalyst_mobility_64-bit_util.exe Run this please and tell us the result
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#978 [16:15] <Boreeas> If everything was okay, your drivers should be here somewhere: http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G73Jh&p=3&s=252
#979 [16:16] <Boreeas> I guess the one under "VGA" but I'm not really sure
#980 [16:16] <Boreeas> Maybe someone else can confirm that?
#981 [16:16] <venom> i have to reboot
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#984 [16:20] <venom> okay, could you re-link me to the driver update?
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#986 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> [22:15] <+Boreeas> If everything was okay, your drivers should be here somewhere: http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G73Jh&p=3&s=252
#987 [16:21] <venom> which one do I download again?
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#989 [16:22] <venom> VGA?
#990 [16:22] <skimpytoast> I just got a new computer the HP Pavilion and im trying to get minecraft but it will only load the bin how can i fix this?
#991 [16:22] <awesomegamer55> ok
#992 [16:22] <Devin> skimpytoast, does it just stop?
#993 [16:23] <skimpytoast> it says its complete but nothing happens
#994 [16:23] <awesomegamer55> i am going to leave now i will try to find more help later bye
#995 [16:23] <Devin> Are you able to play? O_o
#996 [16:23] <skimpytoast> no
#997 [16:24] <skimpytoast> i know one way to fix it but i need someone else to help
#998 [16:24] <Devin> what?
#999 [16:24] <skimpytoast> someone would have to email me a copy of their .minecraft folder with all the files in it
#1000 [16:24] <Boreeas> venom: As I said, I'm not sure. Before you download something that breaks your graphics, I would prefer if you confirm it from someone else.
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#1002 [16:25] <venom> alright
#1003 [16:25] <Ferk> Hey! Running Minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS under Sun java and I get this error when I try to start it using java -jar minecraft.jar http://pastebin.com/38pqK1eg
#1004 [16:25] <Devin> skimpytoast, what anti-virus software do you use.
#1005 [16:25] <skimpytoast> norton
#1006 [16:25] <Ferk> Any ideas on what is wrong?
#1007 [16:25] <skimpytoast> brand new comp, just got it an hour ago
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#1009 [16:26] <Devin> Install MSE and uninstall Norton if you would care to, I know Norton has its problems
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#1011 [16:26] <skimpytoast> MSE?
#1012 [16:26] <johndoe> hello
#1013 [16:26] <Devin> oh
#1014 [16:26] <lutzee> skimpytoast, do you have an ! in your windows use?
#1015 [16:26] <lutzee> user*
#1016 [16:26] <Devin> Sorry, my fault. Microsoft Securityy Essentials
#1017 [16:26] <skimpytoast> yes
#1018 [16:27] <lutzee> skimpytoast, thats the problem
#1019 [16:27] <skimpytoast> WHAT?
#1020 [16:27] <skimpytoast> no way?
#1021 [16:27] <Devin> Oh.
#1022 [16:27] <lutzee> make a new account on the PC without an ! in your user
#1023 [16:27] <skimpytoast> so i just need to change that
#1024 [16:27] <skimpytoast> hahahaa
#1025 [16:27] <skimpytoast> thanks for the help let me edit my name
#1026 [16:27] <Boreeas> skimpytoast: Nope
#1027 [16:27] <lutzee> you can't
#1028 [16:27] <Boreeas> skimpytoast: Editing won't help
#1029 [16:27] <lutzee> you need to make a new user
#1030 [16:27] <skimpytoast> why
#1031 [16:28] <Boreeas> Because editing your name only changes your display name, but not the file paths
#1032 [16:28] <skimpytoast> ok well thanks for the help i really needed that!
#1033 [16:28] <skimpytoast> Bye!
#1034 [16:28] <Boreeas> Next: He manually changes the path names and wonders why the programs no longer work
#1035 [16:29] <venom> urgh
#1036 [16:29] <venom> catylyst menu isn't installing correctly
#1037 [16:29] <Boreeas> :/
#1038 [16:29] <venom> i think i'll just stick to other games for now
#1039 [16:29] <venom> i have a seperate desktop that runs mc just fine
#1040 [16:30] <venom> just watned a mobile one xD
#1041 [16:30] <venom> wanted*
#1042 [16:30] <venom> thanks for the help, though
#1043 [16:30] <johndoe> hi i was here yesterday dose anyone remember me?
#1044 [16:31] <Boreeas> johndoe: We get hundreds of people here every day. The chances that someone will remember you are slim.
#1045 [16:31] <Devin> Wow this channel is full of em today. ;o
#1046 [16:31] <johndoe> ok well im trying to buy a copy of the game but its not acepting my visa card
#1047 [16:32] <Devin> johndoe, what country do you live in? (I know this is a crazy question but still)
#1048 [16:32] <johndoe> usa
#1049 [16:32] <Devin> Make sure your bank allows international payments. Mine personally blocked it because it was in a different country.
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#1053 [16:33] <lutzee> johndoe, yes i remember, moneybookers blocked your for 24h
#1054 [16:33] <johndoe> yes now its telling me transaction faild and not takeing my card
#1055 [16:36] <johndoe> i put everything in right theres money in the account but its not working
#1056 [16:36] <lutzee> hmm contact moneybookers and see what they say
#1057 [16:37] <johndoe> is there a number to call them at?
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#1060 [16:38] <johndoe> found it
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#1068 [18:16] <KKT> I'm trying to make a remote door opening system for my bank from a reception desk. What's the best way to go about doing this?
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#1072 [18:25] <salvokt> hey
#1073 [18:25] <salvokt> i ve an erroron bukkit
#1074 [18:25] <salvokt> an error with bukkit
#1075 [18:25] <salvokt> 2012-06-17 00:18:46 [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Socket closed 2012-06-17 00:18:46 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(SocketOutputStream.java:116) 2012-06-17 00:18:46 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(SocketOutputStream.java:153) 2012-06-17 00:18:46 [SEVERE] at java.io.BufferedOutputStream.flushBuffer(BufferedOutputStream.ja
#1076 [18:26] <lutzee> salvokt, ask in #bukkit for help
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#1081 [18:39] <alan_sorrill> hi, i just created a multiplayer server, i forwerded the port the way portforword.com said to exactly, but my minecraft says that it can't reach the server.
#1082 [18:39] <colton> is minecraft.net
#1083 [18:39] <colton> is minecraft,net up?
#1084 [18:39] <alan_sorrill> yea
#1085 [18:39] <colton> is says i cant connect
#1086 [18:40] <alan_sorrill> now it is
#1087 [18:40] <alan_sorrill> what should i do?
#1088 [18:41] <colton> i cant connect to minecraft.net what should i do?
#1089 [18:41] <lutzee> !check alan_sorrill
#1090 [18:41] <lutzee> alan_sorrill, port forwading hasn't worked
#1091 [18:42] <alan_sorrill> can someone help me?
#1092 [18:42] <lutzee> alan_sorrill, your port forwarding has not worked,
#1093 [18:42] <colton> what should i do if i cant connect to minecraft.net
#1094 [18:43] <Anonymous53> i have make my own Anonymous skin so i am a little bit happy :D
#1095 [18:43] <lutzee> colton, turn off your antivirus
#1096 [18:43] <colton> ok
#1097 [18:44] <alan_sorrill> should i try to install another router and forword a port on that?
#1098 [18:44] <Anonymous53> but there are to small pixels
#1099 [18:44] <Anonymous53> alan what router do u have?
#1100 [18:44] <lutzee> alan_sorrill, if you have that ease yes
#1101 [18:44] <alan_sorrill> thank you
#1102 [18:45] <Anonymous53> alan
#1103 [18:45] <Anonymous53> what router do u have?
#1104 [18:45] <colton> that did not work
#1105 [18:45] <alan_sorrill> a 2wire
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#1107 [18:45] <Anonymous53> ah okay and there u cant port forward?
#1108 [18:45] <lutzee> ??> hosts | colton
#1109 [18:45] <colton> yes
#1110 [18:45] <lutzee> er
#1111 [18:46] <lutzee> colton, have you messed with the hosts file at all?
#1112 [18:46] <Anonymous53> i cant to on my netgear it sucks but i have a fritbox to i have to install :D
#1113 [18:46] <colton> idk
#1114 [18:46] <Boreeas> ??> colton win/hosts
#1115 [18:46] <VoxelHead> colton: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1116 [18:46] <VoxelHead> colton: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1117 [18:46] <lutzee> thank br
#1118 [18:46] <Anonymous53> *too
#1119 [18:46] <lutzee> Boreeas, *
#1120 [18:47] <alan_sorrill> yea, i tryed to forword port 25565 and it says that it has been forworded, but my minecraft still says that it can't cenect, it can't reach the server
#1121 [18:47] <colton> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
#1122 [18:48] <lutzee> alan_sorrill, the port does not seem to be open from here
#1123 [18:48] <Anonymous53> at my router i can forwarded to but every game thats need to be host
#1124 [18:48] <Anonymous53> i cant open a game / nobody cant connect ^^
#1125 [18:48] <Anonymous53> *can
#1126 [18:48] <colton> # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#1127 [18:48] <lutzee> colton, pastebin
#1128 [18:48] <Anonymous53> take ur old and put it to trash :D
#1129 [18:49] <colton> how do i pastebin?
#1130 [18:49] <Anonymous53> at pastebin.com
#1131 [18:49] <alan_sorrill> i just started the server software, does that change? i had it open when i tryed it, i had it off wile i was chating.
#1132 [18:50] <alan_sorrill> it's on now
#1133 [18:50] <Anonymous53> xd
#1134 [18:51] <lutzee> !check 75.63.63.126
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#1136 [18:51] <colton> how do i pastebin
#1137 [18:52] <Boreeas> http://pastebin.com
#1138 [18:52] <Boreeas> Go there, paste your stuff, hit submit, give us the resulting link
#1139 [18:52] <Jason> I have a maze i made and i want ppl on my server to do it without cheating (aka Breaking the blocks) how can i prevent them from breaking any blocks?
#1140 [18:53] <Boreeas> Jason: Use bukkit and an area protection plugin. #bukkit for more information
#1141 [18:53] <lutzee> Jason, use a bukkit server with worldguard
#1142 [18:54] <Jason> you would have to explain bit more in lamer terms for me... bukkit server?
#1143 [18:54] <colton> http://pastebin.com/KsKFqN54
#1144 [18:55] <superkabii> Jason, /join #bukkit
#1145 [18:55] <Jason> ok
#1146 [18:55] <lutzee> ^ and ask them to expain
#1147 [18:55] <lutzee> ^ and ask them to expain
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#1149 [18:58] <colton> http://pastebin.com/KsKFqN54
#1150 [18:58] <colton> tahts it
#1151 [18:59] <Boreeas> Yes. NASM syntax is a great highlighting choice for a plaintext file.
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#1153 [18:59] <colton> can someone help me
#1154 [19:00] <lutzee> that seems fine, how long have you been having the problem?
#1155 [19:00] <colton> yesterday
#1156 [19:01] <lutzee> what antivirus do you have?
#1157 [19:01] <colton> mcfee
#1158 [19:02] <lutzee> hmmm new pc at all?
#1159 [19:02] <colton> 5 months
#1160 [19:02] <lutzee> new user account?
#1161 [19:03] <colton> no i used to use it all the time
#1162 [19:05] <lutzee> hmm
#1163 [19:05] <colton> i really need help
#1164 [19:05] <colton> ill do anything
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#1167 [19:09] <colton> can anyone help me
#1168 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> we can give it a try
#1169 [19:10] <colton> ok so it says i cant connet to minecraft,net
#1170 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> what happens when you try to ping login.minecraft.net
#1171 [19:11] <colton> it logs in
#1172 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> It's known to not connect if your computer date is off by much.
#1173 [19:14] <colton> how do i check that
#1174 [19:14] <lutzee> what does your PC clock say
#1175 [19:14] <lutzee> ?
#1176 [19:16] <colton> 7:15pm 6/16/2012
#1177 [19:16] <lutzee> that matches what it should be .. hmm
#1178 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> What version of Java are you running, Java 7 or Java 6?
#1179 [19:17] <colton> how do i check
#1180 [19:17] <colton> sorry iam not good with computers
#1181 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Before that, what IP address is shown when you try to ping login.minecraft.net
#1182 [19:21] <colton> it does not show up
#1183 [19:21] <lutzee> open up command prompt by doing, windowskey+r then typing cmd and pressing enter, then type in without quotes "java -version"
#1184 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> What do you mean? Are you typing "ping login.minecraft.net" in at the Command Prompt?
#1185 [19:22] <lutzee> and DiskDaemon cmd only likes www. adresses
#1186 [19:22] <lutzee> otherwise you get unknown host
#1187 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> I get an ip address - it timesout, but I'm looking for the ip addres at this stage
#1188 [19:23] <lutzee> er maybe it's just ubuntu that hates me i thought they did the same
#1189 [19:23] <lutzee> er no i don't get it either... :o
#1190 [19:24] <colton> 174.129.1.196 it says
#1191 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#1192 [19:25] <colton> now waht
#1193 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> It could be this then http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#1194 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Where you may be running Java 7, which is trying to communicate using IPV6 instead.
#1195 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Are you running Java 7 or Java 6?
#1196 [19:26] <zkxs> ?? java/version
#1197 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> java -version
#1198 [19:27] <colton> where do i put that
#1199 [19:27] <lutzee> in command prompt
#1200 [19:27] <colton> is says java is unreconized
#1201 [19:27] <zkxs> use this: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1202 [19:27] <lutzee> not in the PATH..
#1203 [19:30] <colton> i clicked it and itc checked and i can not see the image
#1204 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> Could it be that he should install (reinstall) Java then?
#1205 [19:30] <colton> how
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#1207 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#1208 [19:32] <Skytower> Hey.
#1209 [19:32] <lutzee> hey
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#1211 [19:33] <Skytower> I'm looking for a 1.7.3 version for Mac - my current OS is too old to handle the java requirements of newer versions, I think.
#1212 [19:34] <Skytower> Does anyone know where I can get a download for it?
#1213 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Skytower: Use Minecraft Nostalgia to convert a clean 1.2.5 back to that previous version for you
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#1215 [19:34] <colton> that did not work
#1216 [19:34] <Skytower> And not java, because Apple cut off java support for this OS. I can't run those version unless I upgrade, which costs money.
#1217 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Can you now see anything on the java version page?
#1218 [19:35] <colton> no
#1219 [19:35] <Skytower> Thanks.
#1220 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> colton: I'm kind of stumped in helping you if the page that's supposed to show your Java version isn't even able to do that
#1221 [19:36] <colton> is 7
#1222 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> WHich version, 32-bit or 64-bit?
#1223 [19:36] <colton> 32
#1224 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> sorry, cleaner is here to clean up piss from a tenant on my carpet, back in a bit
#1225 [19:39] <Skytower> your tenant sounds brilliant
#1226 [19:40] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
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#1228 [19:41] <Zen> Hello?
#1229 [19:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello?
#1230 [19:41] <lutzee> hey
#1231 [19:41] <Zen> I need help :S
#1232 [19:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Just ask.
#1233 [19:42] <Zen> Aiiight'.
#1234 [19:42] <Zen> Well I got a new PC, and it loads fine and all, but when I start MC and click Update, it stops at a random number.
#1235 [19:42] <Zen> I have the latest version of Java, ect.
#1236 [19:42] <colton> i cant connect to minecraft.net
#1237 [19:42] <lutzee> Zen, do you jave an ! in your windows user name?
#1238 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Colton, I can.
#1239 [19:43] <Zen> Where do I check that. (Prob sounds idiotic.)
#1240 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> !connect
#1241 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> zen, hit start
#1242 [19:43] <colton> how do i fix
#1243 [19:43] <Zen> Mmmh.
#1244 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Where your username is, does it include !?
#1245 [19:43] <Zen> Oh, No,
#1246 [19:43] <lutzee> Zen, well when you made your user account on the PC is it "Zen!" or just "Zen"
#1247 [19:43] <lutzee> hmm okay
#1248 [19:43] <Zen> Tis' just "User"
#1249 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> I was going to suggest trying to start Minecraft with C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Xmx1024M
#1250 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> -Xms512M -jar f:\minecraft\minecraft.exe
#1251 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow. :I
#1252 [19:44] <Zen> x_X
#1253 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> The 32-bit version is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar f:\minecraft\minecraft.exe
#1254 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I even understand all this.
#1255 [19:44] <colton> how do i do that
#1256 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> colton: windows key + r
#1257 [19:45] <Zen> Disk, that to me or Colton :S?
#1258 [19:45] <CrusaderDeleters> And put that long string of character in there
#1259 [19:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Zen, he's talking to colt. c:
#1260 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> From the command prompt in the folder that contains your minecraft.exe file
#1261 [19:45] <Zen> Kay.
#1262 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> TO colton
#1263 [19:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Zen, do you have internet access on that computer?
#1264 [19:45] <Zen> Mhm.
#1265 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Kinda do have to ask, some poeple use other computers to talk on here. c:
#1266 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> zen, what does it freeze on?
#1267 [19:46] <Zen> It's always different.
#1268 [19:47] <Zen> It's updating at a number.
#1269 [19:47] <Zen> Then stops.
#1270 [19:47] <Zen> I can mess with the window and it doesn't crash, it just never finishes.
#1271 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> can you read me the certain set of characters?
#1272 [19:47] <Zen> Mmmhm.
#1273 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Danke, schoen.
#1274 [19:48] <colton> does not work
#1275 [19:48] <Zen> Downloading packages Retreiving: minecraft.jar 0%.
#1276 [19:48] <Zen> Though it's not usually 0%...
#1277 [19:48] <Zen> It can be anything :S
#1278 [19:48] <CrusaderDeleters> colton, are you using minecraft from an internet-less computer?
#1279 [19:48] <lutzee> Zen, disable your antivirus
#1280 [19:48] <colton> np
#1281 [19:48] <Zen> :s
#1282 [19:48] <colton> no
#1283 [19:48] <CrusaderDeleters> So that computer has intrawebz
#1284 [19:49] <colton> yes
#1285 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you have any anti-virus/malware softwares?
#1286 [19:49] <colton> yes mcfee
#1287 [19:49] <Zen> Not sure if I should disable it. Will I have to every time then?
#1288 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Ew, mcafee.
#1289 [19:50] <lutzee> Zen, you can probably ad an exception
#1290 [19:50] <lutzee> but lets see if it is the problem first
#1291 [19:50] <colton> ....
#1292 [19:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Colton, I think McAfee is trying to disable your acess via minecraft, could you try to disable mcaffe, colt?
#1293 [19:50] <Zen> Alright...
#1294 [19:50] <Zen> Brb :s
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#1296 [19:50] <lutzee> Zen you should be safe without it on most of the time don't worry :)
#1297 [19:51] <Zen> Waitz.
#1298 [19:51] <colton> didnt work
#1299 [19:51] <lutzee> btw the firewall will be the problem
#1300 [19:51] <iRobbzZz> You know when you shut down a minecraft server. How do you change the message that comes up on the screen?
#1301 [19:51] <Zen> Never waited long enough I suppose <_> But nao MC says Fatal Error occured (4): Connection reset
#1302 [19:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Not sure, colton. :o
#1303 [19:52] <Zen> Then What I had posted before... the Retrieving:
#1304 [19:53] <Zen> Hey Robbaz, Off topic, but you're not really Robbazz... right ;s?
#1305 [19:53] <iRobbzZz> Nope XD
#1306 [19:53] <Zen> xD Alright.
#1307 [19:53] <Zen> Soo.... Any help with my prob ;s? Or you guys looking it up...?
#1308 [19:53] <Zen> Soo.... Any help with my prob ;s? Or you guys looking it up...?
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#1310 [19:54] <Zen> DL
#1311 [19:54] <Zen> D:*
#1312 [19:54] <lutzee> thinking...
#1313 [19:54] <Zen> D:
#1314 [19:54] <Zen> Dunno why it did that <_>
#1315 [19:55] <Zen> Astric :l
#1316 [19:56] <zkxs> Zen: are your AV and firewall disabled?
#1317 [19:56] <Zen> No o.o
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#1319 [19:56] <Zen> I'll leave dish and come back, after trying some stuff with AVG ect.
#1320 [19:56] <Zen> Cyah.
#1321 [19:57] <zkxs> Typically if the download freezes, something is blocking it.
#1322 [19:57] <zkxs> aka AV or firewall
#1323 [19:57] <Zen> Alright.
#1324 [19:57] <Zen> Thanks.
#1325 [19:57] <zkxs> There is also that one spyware that interferes... I forget its name though
#1326 [19:57] <lutzee> and AVG is a big one that does it..
#1327 [19:59] <Devin> oh
#1328 [19:59] <Devin> Zen has AVG?
#1329 [20:00] <Devin> If he comes back, tell him to disable linkscanner module. >.>
#1330 [20:00] <CrusaderDeleters> I left avg.
#1331 [20:00] <CrusaderDeleters> MSE and MalwareBytes rocks.
#1332 [20:00] <Devin> &
#1333 [20:00] <Devin> ^
#1334 [20:00] <Devin> Eff it
#1335 [20:00] <zkxs> I left windows. Not needing AV rocks :P
#1336 [20:01] <CrusaderDeleters> I had a virus that Malwarebytes caught, but not avg.
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#1339 [20:14] <CrusaderDeleters> World of Minecraft launcher is freezing black screen. Quick - solution. C:
#1340 [20:14] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, don't use WoM.
#1341 [20:14] <Devin> Easy as that. >.>
#1342 [20:14] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#1343 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone else who is actually willing to help? XD
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#1350 [20:36] <bcalkins17> will my fps drop more as I build more stuff?
#1351 [20:37] <Mysfit> Can anyone help me with a problem concerning minecraft not running (not even in task manager)?
#1352 [20:37] <Mysfit> bcalkins, it depends solely on your render distance, the more you can see, the more that is loaded
#1353 [20:38] <Mysfit> also, if there are more animations, like water
#1354 [20:39] <bcalkins17> I have it locked at 60 right now if I built a huge town on tiny render distance should it drop my fps at all?
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#1356 [20:40] <Mysfit> not by much I wouldn't have thought, unless you have fountains or cobblestone farms or something
#1357 [20:40] <lutzee> mm not really, depends on how many faces are showing
#1358 [20:40] <lutzee> lots of redstone my be a problem
#1359 [20:40] <Mysfit> yeah, or redstone devices
#1360 [20:41] <lutzee> Mysfit, at what stage does minecraft stop working?
#1361 [20:41] <Mysfit> right after i double click it :)
#1362 [20:41] <bcalkins17> what do you mean by how many faces are showing?
#1363 [20:41] <Mysfit> blocks have faces, sides
#1364 [20:42] <bcalkins17> ok thanks!
#1365 [20:42] <Mysfit> if you're looking at loads of blocks at an angle, then all angles have to load
#1366 [20:42] <Mysfit> unless covered by other blocks
#1367 [20:43] <lutzee> Mysfit, when you double click what? a world?
#1368 [20:43] <Mysfit> no, the icon on my desktop, the process simply does not start, i have given it admin access, but to no avail
#1369 [20:44] <lutzee> you have java installed?
#1370 [20:44] <Mysfit> yes, 64 bit and 32bit, i'll check again thoguh
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#1372 [20:44] <Mysfit> yes, both
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#1374 [20:45] <Gunslinger2> hello
#1375 [20:45] <Mysfit> hello gunslinger
#1376 [20:45] <Gunslinger2> howdy
#1377 [20:46] <Gunslinger2> got a problem with permissionsEX, if i change chatmanager to true, i restart the server, it changes back to false...how can i fix this?
#1378 [20:47] <Devin> Mysfit, tried reinstalling?
#1379 [20:48] <Mysfit> java, yes, also deleted the minecraft.exe and re-downloaded
#1380 [20:48] <Mysfit> updated graphics driver just in case too
#1381 [20:50] <Devin> Nono.
#1382 [20:51] <Devin> Backup your saves and texture packs if you want them
#1383 [20:51] <Devin> Keep the minecraft.exe, delete your .minecraft in %appdata%
#1384 [20:51] <lutzee> Devin, the launcher is failing to start...
#1385 [20:51] <Mysfit> okee, gimme a tic
#1386 [20:51] <Devin> oh
#1387 [20:51] <Devin> shit sorry
#1388 [20:51] <Devin> My stupidity.
#1389 [20:51] <Mysfit> so... don't do what delvin said?
#1390 [20:52] <lutzee> which means the exe isn't finding java (as the exe is just a jar file in a launchable wrapper)
#1391 [20:52] <lutzee> no Mysfit that will not help
#1392 [20:52] <Mysfit> okee
#1393 [20:52] <Mysfit> thanks anyway devin, sorryfor l
#1394 [20:52] <Gunslinger2> java not installed to default directory?
#1395 [20:53] <lutzee> Mysfit, which java version?
#1396 [20:53] <Mysfit> i never changed the directory from it's default, so i don't think so
#1397 [20:54] <Mysfit> 6 update 31, 7 update 4 (64bit) and 7 update 5
#1398 [20:54] <lutzee> remove one version of 4
#1399 [20:54] <lutzee> 7*
#1400 [20:54] <Gunslinger2> 32bit also installed?
#1401 [20:55] <Mysfit> yes, i installed 64bit a while ago as per the graphics instructions in minecraft
#1402 [20:56] <lutzee> don't have 2 versions of one set architecture, only have 1 32bit and 1 64bit
#1403 [20:56] <Mysfit> right, uninstalled...
#1404 [20:56] <Mysfit> so far so good, i can see things now...
#1405 [20:57] <Mysfit> I may have a new problem
#1406 [20:57] <Mysfit> yes, the update appears to be stuck
#1407 [20:58] <lutzee> so the launcher actually launched?
#1408 [20:58] <lutzee> okay good
#1409 [20:58] <lutzee> now what antivirus do you use?
#1410 [20:59] <Mysfit> yes, so one problem sorted
#1411 [20:59] <Mysfit> AVG
#1412 [20:59] <lutzee> disable linkscanner module in avg
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#1415 [21:00] <Mysfit> not sticking in the same place... grand, all fixed i think, thanks for your time
#1416 [21:01] <lutzee> okay no problem :)
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#1420 [21:05] <Gunslinger2> can anyone recommend some plugins for server administration?
#1421 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> There might be some ideas over at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/6-server-administration/
#1422 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> I've heard too that MultiCraft is good for server administration
#1423 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> All I need is kick, ban, ipban, tp, and tphere
#1424 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> and logblock
#1425 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> http://www.curse.com/server-mods/minecraft/category/admin-tools
#1426 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> http://www.curse.com/server-mods/minecraft/category/admin-tools
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#1430 [21:22] <johndoe> hello
#1431 [21:24] <Gunslinger2> howdy
#1432 [21:27] <johndoe> i think something is wrong with moneybookers
#1433 [21:28] <johndoe> ive used two diferant cards and it still says faild transaction
#1434 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> You will need to contact moneybookers to find out why
#1435 [21:29] <johndoe> yeah im about to call them but i mean wtf i just want to play the game
#1436 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> That's what I recall telling you last time as well.
#1437 [21:31] <johndoe> i called them then they said they would send me an email on whatsa wrong with my card that was 6 hours ago and no email\
#1438 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> Check yuour spam filters, and then then call them back asking about the email
#1439 [21:31] <johndoe> its not there
#1440 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> and then ...
#1441 [21:32] <johndoe> is there any other way to buy the game
#1442 [21:33] <lutzee> paypal
#1443 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> There can be via connecting paypal to your credit cards - but I suggest that you find and fix the problem with your credit cards first.
#1444 [21:33] <johndoe> i tryed a pay pal account it didnt work
#1445 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> We can not help you any further. You know what needs to be done.
#1446 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> I dislike being that harsh at times
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#1448 [21:34] <Devin> It's not like anyone here can help with payments.
#1449 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Unless they're Marc when he happends to be active
#1450 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> And even then, all that can be done is to officially confirm that the game has not been purchased, and that the person needs to do the same things we've just been telling them
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#1456 [22:13] <Caerie> Having a vanilla server issue, and minecraftforum is over-capacity, figured I'd give this a shot. I'm getting a complete lack of monsters spawning in SMP, with server properties listed as true, and difficulty on normal. Anyone know either a cause or a fix?
#1457 [22:13] <Lardman> When the mcf goes over capacity, just keep refreshing
#1458 [22:13] <Lardman> it will come back in a few seconds
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#1460 [22:14] <Caerie> Unfortunately, I've been trying to register for about half an hour now, and I keep getting the same over capacity message.
#1461 [22:14] <Lardman> are you sure that you typed it entirely correct in the server.properties file?
#1462 [22:14] <Lardman> Really?
#1463 [22:14] <Caerie> Yeah
#1464 [22:14] <Lardman> after this I will help you register
#1465 [22:14] <Caerie> And pretty sure.
#1466 [22:14] <Caerie> spawn-monsters=true
#1467 [22:14] <Caerie> difficulty=2
#1468 [22:14] <Lardman> make sure it is spaced
#1469 [22:15] <lutzee|Zz> carie can you spawn agressive mobs with eggs?
#1470 [22:15] <Lardman> spawn-monster = true
#1471 [22:15] <Caerie> Let's find out.
#1472 [22:15] <Caerie> I've had monsters
#1473 [22:15] <Caerie> They just went away after we killed them, and never came back
#1474 [22:16] <Caerie> Yeah, I can spawn with eggs
#1475 [22:16] <Lardman> Caerie
#1476 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Oh no.. Notch added monster breeding too
#1477 [22:16] <TheNytangel> D:
#1478 [22:16] <Lardman> spawn-monsters = true
#1479 [22:16] <Lardman> spaces
#1480 [22:16] <TheNytangel> You don't need spaces
#1481 [22:16] <Lardman> Really O.o
#1482 [22:16] <Caerie> By default, my server.properties file didn't have any spaces at all
#1483 [22:16] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#1484 [22:17] <Lardman> It could just be the world
#1485 [22:17] <Lardman> make a new world and see if the same happens
#1486 [22:17] * Lardman stands corrected
#1486 [22:18] <Caerie> My google-fu has told me that view distance, and maximum mobs (underground spawns) can both cause the issue. But the underground spawns were supposedly fixed back in April 2011, and my view distance is at 10.
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#1489 [22:21] <Caerie> Since it's going to take an hour or so to clear out all the mobs on the new world, if they spawn the same, just to see if there's a lack of more mobs, can you think of anything else that might cause it? Is there a minimum population required to spawn monsters? I've still got plenty of sheep roaming around, just no zombies or skeletons or creepers.
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#1491 [22:23] <Lardman> Hello!
#1492 [22:23] <Lardman> Okay
#1493 [22:23] <Arijord> hi there
#1494 [22:23] <Arijord> ok username is RtooDtoo
#1495 [22:23] <Lardman> Have you been able to login and play before
#1496 [22:23] <Arijord> I haven't ever been able to on this Macbook
#1497 [22:23] <Arijord> we have no probs with our iMac
#1498 [22:24] <Lardman> the account is fine
#1499 [22:24] <Arijord> cheers thought so
#1500 [22:24] <Lardman> Okay what version of java does it have?
#1501 [22:24] <Arijord> 6.5
#1502 [22:24] <Lardman> thats not the issue then.
#1503 [22:24] <Arijord> the latest version is for the OS above mine
#1504 [22:25] <Arijord> yeah, tried the java route
#1505 [22:25] <Arijord> tried the time/date stamp
#1506 [22:25] <Arijord> tried the empty bin folder, delete everything and start again
#1507 [22:25] <Lardman> So the time and date is correct?
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#1509 [22:25] <Arijord> yep
#1510 [22:31] <Caerie> Hm... So, spawners are working, and there are mobs, but I'm only getting one per... 10-20 chunks I'm running through, in the dead of night, or caves, or whatever. There are monsters, but... practically none. Seems disparate from SSP mode >.>
#1511 [22:32] <Caerie> As luck would have it, new world was really close to two dungeons. A spider dungeon right next to a zombie dungeon. In the wild, I'm getting some on the new world, but still not very many at all.
#1512 [22:32] <Lardman> The first world might be corrupt then
#1513 [22:35] <Caerie> Tch. Know what causes that? Finally got our village kind of started, and then we realized the lack of monsters. Hate to have to start over again, if I can avoid it
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#1515 [22:36] <Caerie> Rather, start over a second time. Since if the world is corrupt, I'll probably be restarting at least once already.
#1516 [22:36] <Caerie> See? That's the minecraft I love. I turn to type into an IRC channel, and a creeper blows me up.
#1517 [22:37] <Lardman> \o/
#1518 [22:37] <Lardman> Okay now to your forum issue
#1519 [22:37] <Lardman> come into #minecraftforums
#1520 [22:39] <Caerie> Actually, server let me register this time
#1521 [22:39] <Lardman> \o/
#1522 [22:39] <Lardman> what is your mcf username
#1523 [22:39] <Lardman> ?
#1524 [22:40] <Caerie> Sucks that we lost the other world. Would the seed matter?
#1525 [22:40] <Caerie> Um, CaerieDarkstar
#1526 [22:40] <Lardman> No
#1527 [22:40] <Caerie> So we could restart with the same seed, and hopefully avoid corruption?
#1528 [22:40] <Caerie> (Kinda liked that world)
#1529 [22:40] <Lardman> yes
#1530 [22:41] <Caerie> Was having some kind of bad lag issues when I first started the server up before I figured out the problem and killed 'em. ... Would, like, 486 ms ticks cause corruption? :x
#1531 [22:42] <Lardman> If the server crashed it might, but I have not heard of bad lag causing it.
#1532 [22:42] <Caerie> Nah, wasn't any crash that I was aware of. I safely stopped the server each time
#1533 [22:44] <Caerie> Oh well, cross fingers for next time.
#1534 [22:44] <Caerie> I appreciate the help <3
#1535 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> ??< gpu/amd
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#1537 [22:55] <avestar101> How do I talk?
#1538 [22:56] <avestar101> how do i change my name
#1539 [22:56] <avestar101> g
#1540 [22:56] <avestar101> g
#1541 [22:56] <avestar101> g
#1542 [22:56] <avestar101> g
#1543 [22:56] <avestar101> ok im sorry i wont spawm
#1544 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1545 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1546 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1547 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1548 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1549 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1550 [22:56] <avestar101> t
#1551 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> /nick newnickname
#1552 [22:56] <avestar101> ok
#1553 [22:56] <avestar101> ok
#1554 [22:56] <avestar101> ok
#1555 [22:56] <avestar101> ok
#1556 [22:56] <Devin> Wow.
#1557 [22:56] <avestar101> ok
#1558 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> Please don't punctuate using the Enter key
#1559 [22:57] <avestar101> what
#1560 [22:57] <avestar101> help
#1561 [22:57] <Devin> What is the problem?
#1562 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Bots here automatically quited here for using the Enter key too frequently
#1563 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> *quieted
#1564 [22:57] <Devin> ಠ_ಠ
#1565 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> well, quit too :)
#1566 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? do/,
#1567 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> I'll remember that one for later...
#1568 [22:58] <Devin> wat
#1569 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> ??> Devin do/,
#1570 [22:58] <VoxelHead> Devin: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#1571 [22:59] <Devin> ._. Gotcha.
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#1573 [23:02] <Rebel> Um, Can I get some help here? I was playing minecraft and my computer crashed when I went back to play it the world was gone, is there anyway to get it back? Thanks. :(
#1574 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Make a backup copy of your saves folder first before attempting anything else
#1575 [23:03] <Rebel> Already did it.
#1576 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> ?? save/null
#1577 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> ??> Rebel save/null
#1578 [23:04] <VoxelHead> Rebel: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1579 [23:04] <Rebel> What? Sorry, Kind of confused.
#1580 [23:04] <VoxelHead> Rebel: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#1581 [23:04] <Rebel> Save null?
#1582 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> It's a request for a factoid, which VoxelHead showed
#1583 [23:04] <Devin> Ignore that part
#1584 [23:05] <Rebel> Okay, so what do I do? Download Mcedit?
#1585 [23:05] <Devin> Yes.
#1586 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> ??> Rebel mcedit
#1587 [23:05] <VoxelHead> Rebel: (mcedit) https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1588 [23:05] <Rebel> Okay, I'll go do that.
#1589 [23:06] <Rebel> There are a couple of downloads, which one do I download?
#1590 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> The latest version for your type of system
#1591 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> What type of system do you have, win or mac?
#1592 [23:07] <Rebel> Windows.
#1593 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> There are two versions shown there, 0.1.0 and 0.1.1 - guess which is the more recent version
#1594 [23:08] <Rebel> Okay.
#1595 [23:08] <Rebel> I'm downloading.
#1596 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> Good one - I apologise if the answers to my questions were somewhat obvious, they are meant to be :)
#1597 [23:09] <Rebel> Okay, it's downloaded.
#1598 [23:09] <Rebel> What do I do now?
#1599 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Install it
#1600 [23:10] <Devin> extract and run the .exe
#1601 [23:10] <Rebel> Umm, it's a zip file. How do I install it?
#1602 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Extract the contents of the zip file out to a folder, go to that folder, and run mcedit
#1603 [23:11] <Rebel> Okay, did it.
#1604 [23:11] <Rebel> Now what?
#1605 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> ??> Rebel save/null
#1606 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Rebel: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1607 [23:12] <Devin> Assuming MCEdit is open, navigate to your saves folder and open the map file.
#1608 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Rebel: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#1609 [23:12] <Rebel> I'm in the file I extacted MCedit to.
#1610 [23:12] <Devin> Run MCEdit.
#1611 [23:13] <Rebel> Okay I have it open.
#1612 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> noe use mcedit to open your map
#1613 [23:13] <Rebel> It says something about getting satisafaction.
#1614 [23:14] <Rebel> What now?
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#1616 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> Use mcedit to load up the map you're having trouble with
#1617 [23:15] <Rebel> Sorry umm.. How?
#1618 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> There's a menu that has "Load World" on it.
#1619 [23:16] <Rebel> Okay.
#1620 [23:16] <Rebel> Oh no... It says the world it empty. :( Guess I'll have to go back to my backup folder...
#1621 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> yep
#1622 [23:16] <Rebel> Well, thanks anyway.
#1623 [23:17] <Rebel> Got to go.
#1624 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> For some reason, I wasn't looking forward to helping him through how to save it
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#1626 [23:23] <MAnestricker> HEllo
#1627 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1628 [23:23] <MAnestricker> I need help with getting minecraft 2 player on my xbox
#1629 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> what sort of help?
#1630 [23:24] <MAnestricker> getting to player mode to start
#1631 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> Okay, I don't know much about that, but there is http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition
#1632 [23:25] <MAnestricker> ok
#1633 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> Are you wanting two people to do multiplayer on the same box?
#1634 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> With a splitscreen?
#1635 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> MAnestricker: Hello, are you there?
#1636 [23:28] <MAnestricker> sorry checkiong out web you sent me
#1637 [23:28] <MAnestricker> yea splitscreen
#1638 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> I'm told that splitscreen requires an HDTV connection.
#1639 [23:28] <MAnestricker> ?
#1640 [23:29] <MAnestricker> HDMI
#1641 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> That should be fine then
#1642 [23:29] <MAnestricker> NO
#1643 [23:29] <MAnestricker> ]I GAVE TO SPEND MONEY!
#1644 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Well done.
#1645 [23:30] <MAnestricker> tell notch to PLZ fix so that i can play
#1646 [23:30] <xales> RUNNING ALL THE WAY TO THE TELEPHONE.
#1647 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> MAnestricker: Nobody here works with or are involved with Mojang. We are all community volunteers
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#1649 [23:34] <MAnestricker> ok
#1650 [23:34] <MAnestricker> Still try
#1651 [23:34] <MAnestricker> your help support
#1652 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> I'm in New Zealand. It's a bit too far to paddle the canoe to Sweden
#1653 [23:35] <MAnestricker> O think it america
#1654 [23:35] <xales> DiskDaemon: Well, if it's far by canoe...
#1655 [23:35] <xales> perhaps kayak?
#1656 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft is from the Mojang company, based in Sweden
#1657 [23:36] <Gunslinger2> whats the easiest way to make a script to automatically restart the server if it crashes?
#1658 [23:37] <xales> while true; do java -jar minecraft_server.jar; done
#1659 [23:38] <xales> or, if Java properly uses return codes (I forget)
#1660 [23:38] <xales> while true; do java -jar minecraft_server.jar && exit; done
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#1662 [23:38] <aaa_> hello
#1663 [23:39] <xales> Hi.
#1664 [23:39] <aaa_> I am having problems running minercraft
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#1666 [23:39] <aaa_> it used to work perfectly but now it does not
#1667 [23:39] <xales> If you want someone to help you, you will have to be more specific than that.
#1668 [23:40] <aaa_> ok when i go to the login screen
#1669 [23:40] <aaa_> a gray background comes up
#1670 [23:40] <aaa_> and says <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1671 [23:41] <xales> That is typically because you have Java 7 installed.
#1672 [23:41] <xales> Uninstall it, and install Java 6.
#1673 [23:41] <aaa_> oh so does it work with java 7 version 5
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#1675 [23:42] <xales> I'm not really sure what wasn't clear about "uninstall Java 7 and install Java 6"
#1676 [23:42] <aaa_> ok bye
#1677 [23:42] <xales> The problem you are having is because you have Java 7 installed.
#1678 [23:42] <xales> ._.
#1679 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> It can have troubles with Java 7. One known issue is that Java 7 sometimes tries to use IPv6. Regardless of the issue, going from Java 7 to Java 6 is a known solution to the problem.
#1680 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> Details on that particular error are at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#1681 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> With solutions
#1682 [23:45] <Devin> Not sure if you've noticed, but he's gone
#1683 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> I didn't actually, he's above the window scroll :)
#1684 [23:46] <Devin> Ah, okay. :)
#1685 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> Having 10 channels visible at the same time has its pros and cons
#1686 [23:46] <xales> o.o
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