#1 [00:02] * Sigma [Sigma@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2 [00:06] * bcalkins17 [bcalkins17@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3 [00:06] <bcalkins17> anyone no anything about laptop temps?
#4 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> What's the issue?
#5 [00:07] <bcalkins17> here http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-hardware/81824-these-temps-too-hot.html#post264653
#6 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> So CPU goes up from 50C to 54C?
#7 [00:09] <bcalkins17> idle is around 48-53
#8 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Optimal operating temperature tends to be at around 50C
#9 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> If you're seeing it go above 65C - that's time to get worried
#10 [00:10] <xales> DiskDaemon: My laptop regularly goes to around 75C when play DF or Minecraft ._.
#11 [00:10] <xales> According to lm_sensors, 113 is critical and 81 is "high"
#12 [00:10] <xales> so...whatever
#13 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> wow, those are high :)
#14 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> 50-70C = Typical-ish use, still safe.
#15 [00:11] <xales> yeah, my laptop is...unusual though
#16 [00:11] <xales> ._.
#17 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> 70-85C = Heavy use, consider moving to flat surface, elevating, or cooling it.
#18 [00:11] <bcalkins17> so on idle is 48-54 normal?
#19 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that's normal
#20 [00:11] <bcalkins17> ok thanks
#21 [00:14] <xales> DiskDaemon: yay high operating temperatures \o/ http://forevernothing.com/destiny.lshw.txt
#22 [00:14] * xales bedtime
#22 [00:28] <Gunslinger2> watching lava drip off my diamond moons kinda hypnotizing...
#23 [00:32] <Gunslinger2> anyone use WorldEdit?
#24 [00:32] <Devin> I do sometimes.
#25 [00:32] <Gunslinger2> can you erase things mistakes?...not undo but erase and if so how?
#26 [00:33] <Devin> Erase?
#27 [00:33] <Devin> As in...? Sorry, I'm not understanding this. :|
#28 [00:33] * tommy71394 [tommy71394@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#29 [00:34] <Gunslinger2> like erase a mistake like you would with MS paint or something
#30 [00:34] <Devin> Couldn't you just //undo?
#31 [00:34] <Devin> wait, why don't you want to undo it?
#32 [00:35] <tommy71394> What are you guys asking? :0
#33 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps it's too late to undo
#34 [00:35] <Devin> He asked if you can erase mistakes in worldedit, but not undo them.
#35 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> Gunslinger2: WorldEdit has an undo command.
#36 [00:36] <tommy71394> Undo and erasing the mistake is the same thing, is it not?
#37 [00:36] <Devin> I would think so
#38 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> No, erasing implies the removal of something completely
#39 [00:36] <Devin> Unless what DiskDaemon said was right, and it was too late.
#40 [00:36] <Gunslinger2> can any of you connect to mcminecraft.selfip.com? //undo would undo all the changes, i only need to fix a few things
#41 [00:37] <Devin> Gunslinger2,
#42 [00:37] <Devin> gah
#43 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> For example, if you remove stuff from the world, it makes no sense afterwards to "erase" that, but you can undo your actions so that what occurred no longer happens
#44 [00:37] <Devin> sorry my client went to not responding.
#45 [00:37] <tommy71394> Gunslinger2: I think you should do it manually in creative.... As worldedit is like a heavy duty weapon for large buildings.
#46 [00:38] <Devin> Gunslinger2, I am unable to connect to that server.
#47 [00:38] <Devin> And I am off for the night guys.
#48 [00:38] <Devin> Goodnight
#49 [00:38] <tommy71394> Anyone know what commands are available in esper.net?
#50 [00:39] <tommy71394> Devin: Good night :3
#51 [00:39] <Devin> tommy71394, as in?
#52 [00:39] <Gunslinger2> thats another problem im having, for some reason even though ive opened ports and configured the settings properly people cant connect to the server
#53 [00:39] <Devin> what commands are y ou looking for? :O
#54 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> http://www.esper.net/getting_started.php
#55 [00:40] <tommy71394> Gunslinger2: Use external IP. If your IP is not static use no-ip and if that is not working use Hamachi or try advanced portforwarding.
#56 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> Then there are lists of commands for http://www.esper.net/nickserv.php and http://www.esper.net/chanserv.php
#57 [00:43] <Gunslinger2> the dyndns mcminecraft.selfip.com is the external ip, ive forwarded the minecraft port on the router, set the minecraft machine up with a static ip as well
#58 [00:45] <Gunslinger2> ive set up game servers here at home before and never had this much trouble, the only thing i can think thats different is i just upgrade internet and isp gave me a new modem/router that ive hooked my own router to
#59 [00:46] <tommy71394> Gunslinger2: Then I can't help you. You have to called your ISP to ask them how it is done. Sorry.
#60 [00:47] <zkxs> double nat
#61 [00:47] <zkxs> If you have nested routers, you must port forward each one
#62 [00:47] <zkxs> ?? double-nat
#63 [00:47] <zkxs> darnit vox
#64 [00:48] <zkxs> ??> tommy71394 double-nat
#65 [00:48] <VoxelHead> tommy71394: (double-nat) Fill in the blanks: Outer router WAN IP:___.___.___.___; Outer router LAN IP: ___.___.___.___; Inner router WAN IP:___.___.___.___; PC LAN IP:___.___.___.___
#66 [00:49] <tommy71394> It's not my problem, it's Gunslinger2's.
#67 [00:49] <zkxs> And I got the wrong nick too... *gives up*
#68 [00:51] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: When routers are nested, you have to port forward twice. Once from the outer router to the inner router, then from the inner router to the pc the server is on
#69 [00:51] <Gunslinger2> alright forwarded the ports on both routers
#70 [00:52] <zkxs> Did you use the correct IPs?
#71 [00:53] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#72 [00:53] <zkxs> mcminecraft.selfip.com:25565 is closed from here
#73 [00:54] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#74 [00:54] <Gunslinger2> yes
#75 [00:54] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: My guess would be that the outer router is set up improperly. It shouldn't be forwarding to you, it should be forwarding to the inner router
#76 [00:58] <Gunslinger2> can both router have the same lan ip address?...never had to deal with 2 routers
#77 [00:59] <zkxs> It is entertaining, to say the least. They shouldn't have the same LAN address, that could create issues
#78 [01:00] <zkxs> Like if both routers are 192.168.1.1, you couldn't connect to the outer router because the inner router would assume you want to talk to it
#79 [01:00] <Gunslinger2> the isps router is 192.168.0.1, my routers 192.168.1.1, the minecraft linux box is connected to my router with a set ip of 192.168.1.101
#80 [01:01] <zkxs> Before I begin my double-nat explanation, would you rather have me do this for you?
#81 [01:01] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#82 [01:02] <Gunslinger2> brief explanation will do, i get the basics of the routers just like i said ive never had to deal with 2 routers connected before
#83 [01:03] <zkxs> Well, basically we have the internet, which contains your home network
#84 [01:04] <zkxs> complicating matters is your home network, or LAN contains a subnet created by the inner router
#85 [01:04] <zkxs> Port forwarding tells a router to send incoming traffic on port x to a certain address on its created network
#86 [01:05] <zkxs> Outer router, which I shall call router A is connected to the internet, and gets incoming traffic
#87 [01:05] <CrusaderDeleters> How do I use a proxy for an application on my desktop?
#88 [01:06] <zkxs> Router A should send this traffic on to router B, which in turn sends it on to your PC
#89 [01:06] <zkxs> Router A creates the 192.168.0.* subnet, while B creates 192.168.1.*
#90 [01:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Belkin did that to me, except I was using only one router.
#91 [01:07] <zkxs> B should forward to 192.168.1.101, which you probably already did correctly
#92 [01:07] <Gunslinger2> yea
#93 [01:07] <Gunslinger2> and A which i just did
#94 [01:07] <zkxs> A, however, must forward to the 192.168.0 address of router B, which you can probably set from router B's configuration
#95 [01:09] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: Try connecting to your inner router, http://192.168.1.1 , and see if there is an option to set its ip
#96 [01:09] * Nate_ [Nate_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#97 [01:09] <Nate_> Is anyone else unable to even download minecraft?
#98 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> yes
#99 [01:10] <Gunslinger2> ^lost me there, meaning i should forward port 25565 on the A router to 192.168.1.101 (the MC box's ip)
#100 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> Are you having trouble downloading minecraft.exe from minecraft.net, or after running that when downloading the game?
#101 [01:11] * Cookies [Cookies@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#102 [01:11] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: No, router A cannot connect to the 192.168.1 subnet, it can only forward to a 192.168.0 address, which we must set on the inner B router
#103 [01:11] <Nate_> When I try to download minecraft it pulls up a launcher but when I sign in it said "unable to connect to minecraft.net" And in the box above all it says is <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#104 [01:11] <DiskDaemon> Nate_: Here's a working solution for that - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#105 [01:12] * Lardman [Lardman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#106 [01:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone know how to use a proxy for an application on my desktop?
#107 [01:13] <Gunslinger2> now thats something im not sure how to set
#108 [01:15] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: It ought to be somewhere at http://192.168.1.1
#109 [01:16] <Nate_> Ok I kind of understand what he is saying in that post but I just dont know how to exactly do that
#110 [01:16] <DiskDaemon> Uninstall Java 7 the install Java 6 is the best solution
#111 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> *then install Java 6
#112 [01:17] <Lardman> what is the problem?
#113 [01:17] <Gunslinger2> router B is a linksys e2000, and some advice dont buy one get a later model ;/
#114 [01:17] <Nate_> how do install version 6 only?
#115 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> Lardman: Nate_ has Java 7 tying to use IPv6 and failing with the launcher
#116 [01:17] <Nate_> ^
#117 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall all java, grab 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#118 [01:18] <Lardman> Yea
#119 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> Nate_: First uninstall Java 7 - then install Java 6 after that
#120 [01:18] <Lardman> Java 6 is your best solution
#121 [01:18] <Nate_> Ok lemme try that
#122 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> Nate_: I've gotta head off to dinner, so I'll leave you in these guys capable hands
#123 [01:19] <Nate_> aight thanks man
#124 [01:23] <Nate_> woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it works!
#125 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
#126 [01:27] * _EricReitz_ [_EricReitz_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#127 [01:32] <Gunslinger2> i think its set up now
#128 [01:32] * Juze [Juze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#129 [01:32] <zkxs> Gunslinger2: The port looks open from here :D
#130 [01:40] * Arijord [Arijord@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#131 [01:41] <Arijord> Hello I was here a couple of hours ago but got bumped. My question was about logging into minecraft on Macbook pro
#132 [01:42] <Arijord> I have tried all the troubleshooting suggestions made on Youtube, forums etc.
#133 [01:42] <Arijord> Still no luck
#134 [01:42] <Arijord> If anyone can help, I would be really grateful!
#135 [01:42] * AG_Clinton [AG_Clinton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#136 [01:46] <Lardman> Do you have any firewalls that could be blocking it?
#137 [01:52] * tommy71394 [tommy71394@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#138 [01:52] <Arijord> Not that I know of
#139 [01:53] <Lardman> odd....
#140 [01:53] <tommy71394> ?
#141 [01:53] <Arijord> It is a work computer that may have "hidden" firewalls
#142 [01:53] <tommy71394> Any problem??
#143 [01:53] <Arijord> Not quite sure where to look
#144 [01:53] <Arijord> Not quite sure where to look
#145 [01:53] * tommy71394 [tommy71394@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#146 [01:53] <Lardman> I do not know too much about Macs
#147 [01:53] <Lardman> I work more with Linux and Windows
#148 [01:54] <Arijord> That's ok, I understand
#149 [01:54] <Arijord> It is probably something really simple!
#150 [01:54] <Arijord> but I will try and find a Mac dude at work maybe
#151 [01:54] <Lardman> GreyVulpine, wanna try your hand at this one
#152 [01:54] * tommy71394 [tommy71394@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#153 [01:55] <tommy71394> Hmm?
#154 [01:55] <Lardman> Hello Tommy
#155 [01:55] <tommy71394> Sup fella
#156 [02:04] <Arijord> Lardman, thanks for your help :-) I will keep trying!
#157 [02:05] <Lardman> I am trying to think of a solution still :/
#158 [02:05] <Lardman> ;-;
#159 [02:05] <Arijord> cheers :-)
#160 [02:06] <Arijord> I reckon it has to be a firewall issue cos it is only Minecraft that has this prob
#161 [02:07] <Arijord> it is a java.net socket exception
#162 [02:07] <Arijord> not sure if that means anything to you?
#163 [02:08] <Lardman> are there any mods installed?
#164 [02:08] <Lardman> oh wait, you did a fresh install right?
#165 [02:08] <Arijord> yeah I did a fresh install
#166 [02:08] <Arijord> I dumped absolutely everything first
#167 [02:12] <Lardman> Arijord
#168 [02:12] <Lardman> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#169 [02:12] <Lardman> create an error report
#170 [02:12] <Arijord> K will do
#171 [02:12] <Arijord> thx :-)
#172 [02:13] <Lardman> paste the report on pastebin.com
#173 [02:14] <Arijord> will have a go - hope I can follow the instructions :/
#174 [02:18] * Lardman [Lardman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#175 [02:20] <Lardman> Back. I accidently hit the internet button on my laptop while I was moving upstairs.
#176 [02:20] <Arijord> k have error report
#177 [02:20] <Arijord> LOL
#178 [02:20] <Lardman> Put it on pastebin.com
#179 [02:20] <Arijord> k
#180 [02:21] <Arijord> done :)
#181 [02:21] <Lardman> link please :D
#182 [02:22] <Arijord> errr......ummmm........
#183 [02:22] <Lardman> It should do create paste
#184 [02:23] <Lardman> then just give me the link to the page
#185 [02:23] <Arijord> http://pastebin.com/TtnmKAKw
#186 [02:23] <Lardman> \o/
#187 [02:23] <Arijord> Title: Minecraft Login Fail
#188 [02:24] <Arijord> oops! Macbook Pro Minecraft Fail Login Arijord
#189 [02:24] <Lardman> got it :)
#190 [02:24] <Arijord> yay
#191 [02:25] <Lardman> that gives me no information :(
#192 [02:25] <Lardman> weird
#193 [02:25] <Arijord> hmmmmm
#194 [02:26] <Arijord> hang on , there is more now!
#195 [02:26] <Arijord> <----not very patient! Now that it has failed, will do the same
#196 [02:26] <Lardman> \o/
#197 [02:27] * omni [omni@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#198 [02:28] <Arijord> http://pastebin.com/W82MLcrg
#199 [02:28] <Arijord> that is Part 2 - hopefully that is more useful
#200 [02:28] <omni> Does anyone have a working download link for minecraft? All the download links on minecraft.net's download page are broken
#201 [02:29] <Lardman> omni, what os do you have>
#202 [02:29] <Lardman> ?
#203 [02:30] <omni> Lardman: Win 7 pro
#204 [02:30] <Lardman> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#205 [02:31] <Lardman> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#206 [02:31] <Lardman> ^ thats the direct download link btw
#207 [02:31] <omni> yeah, those are the links that are not working
#208 [02:32] <Lardman> There should be no problems
#209 [02:32] * |Kiichan| [|Kiichan|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#210 [02:32] <omni> the download page loads fine, but all the links on there are broken (such as the s3.amazonaws.com link you just posted)
#211 [02:33] <Lardman> check your download folder
#212 [02:33] <Lardman> It doesn't bring up a page
#213 [02:33] <Lardman> it just downloads
#214 [02:33] <omni> firefox says Server not found
#215 [02:33] <omni>
#216 [02:33] <omni>
#217 [02:33] <omni>
#218 [02:33] <Lardman> just check your dowload folder please
#219 [02:33] <Lardman> download
#220 [02:34] <Lardman> also, after 4 posts within a specific amount of time, you will get muted by Voxelhead
#221 [02:35] <Lardman> also, Arijord it looks like it is getting blocked by something.
#222 [02:36] <Lardman> No idea what though.
#223 [02:36] <Arijord> Hmmm ok
#224 [02:36] <Arijord> Bet it is a sneaky workplace protocol
#225 [02:36] <Arijord> I will go and see the sys admin tomorrow
#226 [02:37] <Arijord> Thx SO much for all your time!
#227 [02:37] <Lardman> your welcome, sorry I couldn't figure out the problem. I should invest some more time in Mac.
#228 [02:37] <Lardman> Macs*
#229 [02:37] <Arijord> Ah well..... I am a bit biased - they are great (xcpt for when they aren't ;-p)
#230 [02:39] <Arijord> Have a great day/night - your help is really appreciated Ciao
#231 [02:39] <Lardman> I am biased towards Windows and linux if you couldn't guess :P
#232 [02:39] <Arijord> lol yeah
#233 [02:40] <Arijord> k must go. If I get a good answer, I might put it out "there" so other users can get the info. Thx again
#234 [02:54] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#235 [02:56] <Lardman> AVG is so annoying :/
#236 [03:00] <tommy71394> ?
#237 [03:00] <Lardman> Omni's problem was caused by AVG's linkscanner module
#238 [03:00] <Lardman> is did not like the link that the minecraft launcher is downloaded from
#239 [03:00] <Lardman> it*
#240 [03:01] * Necrodoom [Necrodoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#241 [03:08] * TRaGiC [TRaGiC@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#242 [03:10] <TRaGiC> Why does minecraft keep bringing up an error saying either "Fatal error occurred: error writing to server" or Connection refused: connect"?
#243 [03:11] * icanseeyou1234 [icanseeyou1234@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#244 [03:11] <TRaGiC> Also i have just bought the PC version of this game tonight is there a wait period I must go through to be able to officially play online or ever in a single player world?
#245 [03:11] <DiskDaemon> If it gave an error number too, could you please give us the full error?
#246 [03:12] <DiskDaemon> No wait period - once you are a premium account (from purchasing it) you can go on multiplayer servers
#247 [03:12] <Lardman> Tragic, what is your username?
#248 [03:13] <TRaGiC> Fatal error occurred (4) connection refused: connect. is the exact error
#249 [03:13] <icanseeyou1234> hi. i several different jar files, and i accidentally used the clean jar file, for the 12w24a snapshot map. i had the commands enabled, but after i used the clean jar file, i cant anymore. is there anything i can do to change it back?
#250 [03:13] <TRaGiC> @lardman, my username is TRaGiC_SCoPeS
#251 [03:14] <Lardman> !paid TRaGiC_SCoPeS
#252 [03:14] <Lardman> Okay that is not the problem, did not think it was
#253 [03:14] <Lardman> Is your firewall blocking it?
#254 [03:14] <Lardman> also
#255 [03:14] * Hagoroth [Hagoroth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#256 [03:14] <TRaGiC> No that was the first thing i checked i allowed that and Java
#257 [03:15] <Lardman> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#258 [03:15] <Lardman> can you pastbin.com us an error report
#259 [03:15] <Hagoroth> Hello, I got a quick question when other people have been helped
#260 [03:15] <Lardman> Go on Hagoroth
#261 [03:16] <Hagoroth> I was wondering if when villagers were added to minecraft. Did they spawn in worlds that were created in previous versions or did you have to make a new world for them to spawn
#262 [03:16] <icanseeyou1234> im guessing i cant do anything for the moment. i checked all of the files in the saves folder, and it says that cheats are enabled. but i still cant
#263 [03:16] <Hagoroth> i have the xbox 360 edition and while i know it's a different dev i'm trying to find out if villagers will spawn when added in the worlds i alraedy have
#264 [03:16] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: had to make a new world
#265 [03:16] <Hagoroth> ah okay
#266 [03:16] <Hagoroth> kinda sucks but i can see why
#267 [03:17] <Hagoroth> oh, one other thing i'm a bit confused. on the pc are the worlds infinite or do they have a size limit?
#268 [03:17] <Lardman> Icanseeyou: wait, is this something that is only in the snapshots?
#269 [03:17] <icanseeyou1234> yeah
#270 [03:17] * stefa168 [stefa168@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#271 [03:17] <icanseeyou1234> cuz i was building a world in the snapshots
#272 [03:17] <Lardman> Hagoroth, the worlds are limited, but you will never reach the end
#273 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> TRaGiC: Are you running Java 7?
#274 [03:17] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: big enough that you wouldnt reach the edge
#275 [03:17] <Lardman> Icanseeyou, reinstall the snapshot. That is the only way
#276 [03:17] <icanseeyou1234> ok
#277 [03:18] <Hagoroth> oh okay, cause on the xbox the worlds are kinda small, i wonder if they'll be able to do that for the xbox version or not
#278 [03:18] <icanseeyou1234> lemme try
#279 [03:18] <Hagoroth> i wish they'd create a new IRC for xbox users so i don't have to bother everyone here =P
#280 [03:18] <TRaGiC> Yes i am i ever deleted and re-installed thinking it may have been manual error
#281 [03:18] <Lardman> Tragic, if you are running Java 7, uninstall it and install java 6
#282 [03:18] <Lardman> .
#283 [03:18] <TRaGiC> Alright i will do that
#284 [03:18] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: dont think so, xbox is quite weak compared to a PC and minecraft usually eats computer resources alive
#285 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> There are known issues, and that's the best way to resolve the problem if those issues occur
#286 [03:19] <Hagoroth> yeah, i got it for xbox purely for the accessibility and i had microsoft points to spend
#287 [03:19] <Hagoroth> i also liked the reliability in the sense that i knew it would work and wouldn't have to worry about specs
#288 [03:19] <Hagoroth> i'm not too great with computer specs and i've spent quite a bit of money on games i can't even play
#289 [03:19] * Lardman o/\o DiskDaemon
#289 [03:19] <Lardman> teamwork! :D
#290 [03:20] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: whats your computer specs?
#291 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> joy!
#292 [03:20] <icanseeyou1234> no, it didnt work
#293 [03:20] <Hagoroth> i'm not exactly sure off the top of my head, i usually have to check before i make purchases
#294 [03:20] <Lardman> Wait, reinstalling the snapshot did not work?
#295 [03:20] <icanseeyou1234> no
#296 [03:20] <Lardman> restate the problem again please
#297 [03:21] <Hagoroth> i could be reading them wrong but what i've determined are required specs are usually a bare minimum and means that even on lowest settings it won't really run quite right
#298 [03:21] <icanseeyou1234> i have several different jar files, and i accidentally used the clean jar file, for the 12w24a snapshot map. i had the commands enabled, but after i used the clean jar file, i cant anymore. is there anything i can do to change it back?
#299 [03:21] <icanseeyou1234> for A 12w24a snapshot map*
#300 [03:21] <icanseeyou1234> sorry
#301 [03:21] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: i never trust the requiments that games supply, i usually check forums for that
#302 [03:22] <Lardman> I do not know of any way to roll a world back.
#303 [03:22] <Lardman> Necro
#304 [03:22] <Necrodoom> Lardman: ?
#305 [03:22] <Hagoroth> only thing i can figure is if they do add the large worlds the pc offers there would have to be monstrous load screens
#306 [03:22] <Lardman> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#307 [03:22] <Lardman> those are accurate
#308 [03:22] <Lardman> They are from minecraftwiki
#309 [03:22] <Necrodoom> minimum requiments: 256MB ram
#310 [03:22] <Necrodoom> lolno
#311 [03:23] <Lardman> Necro
#312 [03:23] <Lardman> That is saying that on top of everything else there needs to be 256MB ram available
#313 [03:23] <Lardman> which is about right
#314 [03:23] <Hagoroth> i appreciate the nice attitude everyone always has on this chat about helping me with my xbox stuff, i know you probably loath xbox edition lol
#315 [03:24] <Necrodoom> Hagoroth: why loath?
#316 [03:24] <Lardman> ?
#317 [03:24] * TRaGiC_ [TRaGiC_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#318 [03:24] <Hagoroth> pc gaming vs console gaming usually causes arguments and theres little that pc users can generally do to help
#319 [03:24] <Lardman> Loath is a good word to use in that senario Necro
#320 [03:24] <Hagoroth> lol
#321 [03:25] <Necrodoom> Lardman: havent seen any arugments on the help channel about it, really
#322 [03:25] <icanseeyou1234> Do you think its possible to roll a world back?
#323 [03:25] <Lardman> I dont mind console gaming
#324 [03:25] <Hagoroth> but yeah i wasn't too interested in minecraft downloaded the demo for xbox and was pretty hooked, i'm not too good at it though, especially the redstone circuits
#325 [03:25] <Lardman> I prefer pc though.
#326 [03:26] <Hagoroth> i tried to look online at how to use them and i cried a little
#327 [03:26] <TRaGiC_> @Lardman alright i have gotten rid of Java 7 and have re-installed Java 6 and it seems to be working thank you very much for your help
#328 [03:26] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#329 [03:26] <Lardman> Thank DiskDaemon as well! :D
#330 [03:26] <Hagoroth> mainly i like console gaming cause i know when i put a game on it it's going to work and i don't have to worry that some trust fund baby in california has a better isp and computer
#331 [03:26] <Lardman> \o/
#332 [03:26] <TRaGiC_> Thank all of you for your help it was very usefull
#333 [03:26] <TRaGiC_> :)
#334 [03:26] <Lardman> Hagoroth, I hear you.
#335 [03:27] <Lardman> I beat a lot of people only due to my isp
#336 [03:27] <Hagoroth> lol, yay, we got an xbox update that did nothing helpful
#337 [03:27] <Hagoroth> i live in arizona so my isp is worthless
#338 [03:27] <Lardman> Sounds like every ps3 update >_>
#339 [03:27] <Hagoroth> the most useful thing we got on the update was coordinates on the map
#340 [03:27] <Lardman> I get 3 times the bandwidth I am supposed too...
#341 [03:27] <Lardman> <_<
#342 [03:28] <Hagoroth> sad thing is for how much gaming i do i know like nothing about tech stuff lol
#343 [03:28] <Lardman> A lot fo people do not Hagoroth
#344 [03:28] <Hagoroth> better than my family though, my dad can't figure out the difference between an advertisement and a message from his friends on facebook
#345 [03:28] <icanseeyou1234> I guess im just going to wait for 1.3 and tmi for 1.3
#346 [03:29] <icanseeyou1234> ive been looking around all my files
#347 [03:29] <icanseeyou1234> cant find anything
#348 [03:29] <Lardman> Okay
#349 [03:29] <Hagoroth> he got such a bad virus his speakers kept bugging out even if the volume was all the way down that made it scream like a pterodactyl every two minutes
#350 [03:29] <Lardman> LOL Hagoroth. I know exactly how you feel. My mom is like that.
#351 [03:29] <icanseeyou1234> alright thanks lardman for at least trying to help. :)
#352 [03:30] * zkxs blames AOL
#352 [03:30] <Hagoroth> and it was a virus not the speakers, his answer "oh that's just the computer accessing the hard drive"
#353 [03:30] <Lardman> O.o
#354 [03:30] <Necrodoom> LOL
#355 [03:30] <Lardman> That is one crappy hard drive
#356 [03:30] <Lardman> >_>
#357 [03:30] <Hagoroth> "hey my computer won't run this program"..... "dad you have xp that's a windows 7 program"
#358 [03:30] <Hagoroth> "....and you're on service pack 1 of xp"
#359 [03:31] <Hagoroth> "what's a service pack"
#360 [03:31] <Hagoroth> "part of the updates you turned off over a decade ago"
#361 [03:31] <Hagoroth> "oh those things are annoying and they give you viruses"
#362 [03:31] <Hagoroth> >.<
#363 [03:31] <Necrodoom> lol
#364 [03:32] <DiskDaemon> My friends mother doesn't want to consider updates because she doesn't want to pay more for things
#365 [03:32] <Lardman> Night guys
#366 [03:32] <Hagoroth> my dad thinks he knows everything
#367 [03:32] <Hagoroth> that's his problem
#368 [03:32] <zkxs> Do this: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20120609
#369 [03:33] <Hagoroth> he made my brother in law drive 3 hours to my grandmas to fix a car found out the engine was knocking and he decided it was an air hose, fixed it and is driving it
#370 [03:33] <Hagoroth> now his car sounds like a rock in a tin can and he's convinced it's a marvel of modern machinery
#371 [03:34] <Hagoroth> anyways back to covering myself with lava every 30 seconds
#372 [03:35] <zkxs> One of the most annoying things about java is it doesn't give you unsigned types... messing with bytes and chars is a pain
#373 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> Unsigned can be faked, but it's a pain http://www.javamex.com/java_equivalents/unsigned_arithmetic.shtml
#374 [03:37] <zkxs> Is that the bitwise operations thing?
#375 [03:37] <DiskDaemon> yeah, that's the one
#376 [03:37] <zkxs> bleh
#377 [03:37] <Hagoroth> yay found diamonds
#378 [03:38] <zkxs> The only reason it bugs me is because sockets give you a nice byte array to try and get characters from
#379 [03:38] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#380 [03:39] <zkxs> But I got my minecraft server querying code working, time to go stick it in zkxsbot
#381 [03:40] <zkxs> can IRC nicks contain '.'s?
#382 [03:41] <Calinou> no
#383 [03:41] <zkxs> That is convenient, as it will make distinguishing urls/ips from nicknames very simple
#384 [03:42] <zkxs> I read the RFC, but I notice esper allows some characters the RFC doesn't mention in nicks
#385 [03:50] * typhoonkj312 [typhoonkj312@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#386 [03:50] <typhoonkj312> i want my username changed on minecraft
#387 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> They can't do that.
#388 [03:50] <typhoonkj312> awww wat
#389 [03:51] <typhoonkj312> how come?
#390 [03:51] <Necrodoom> typhoonkj312: mojang is lazy
#391 [03:51] <typhoonkj312> -_-
#392 [03:52] <typhoonkj312> *sigh*
#393 [03:52] <typhoonkj312> cant i like email them and ask them to change it?
#394 [03:53] <Necrodoom> i think support email is dead now
#395 [03:53] <typhoonkj312> FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#396 [03:53] <Necrodoom> only choice is to twitter them
#397 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> typhoonkj312: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#398 [03:56] <typhoonkj312> that no help at all...
#399 [04:01] <Spiderman> That's a lot of help :|
#400 [04:03] <Necrodoom> he wants a way to contact mojang
#401 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> It's not much help, but it's all the help tht Mojang are giving in regards to changing user names at this stage
#402 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> People don't want to hear either that they have to buy another account with a different username in order to change things
#403 [04:05] <Spiderman> A name change causes too many problems >_>
#404 [04:07] <Necrodoom> mojang atleast could get a working support
#405 [04:08] <Necrodoom> instead of leeching off an unoffical IRC
#406 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> Yet, it's the community efforts in terms of bug tracking that is helping Mojang work out which issues are the more important ones to take care of
#407 [04:09] <Necrodoom> which, it seems, mojang doesnt fix anyway
#408 [04:10] <Necrodoom> like the simple floating point errors
#409 [04:10] * Paisley [Paisley@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#410 [04:10] * Paisley [Paisley@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#411 [04:10] * Paisley [Paisley@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#412 [04:15] <Calinou> <Necrodoom> like the simple floating point errors < huh?
#413 [04:19] <Necrodoom> Calinou: a simple way of seeing it is using a map viewer and taking a snapshot of ores on the entire map
#414 [04:20] <Necrodoom> Calinou: tons more ores on south west corner
#415 [04:20] <Necrodoom> starting from point 0,0
#416 [04:36] * shadowofnoone [shadowofnoone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#417 [04:36] <shadowofnoone> is anyone else on here having lag/glitching problems?
#418 [04:37] * WolfyCole910 [WolfyCole910@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#419 [04:37] <shadowofnoone> ...?
#420 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> no myself, no. Is this in multiplayer that you're talking about
#421 [04:37] <shadowofnoone> Singleplayer
#422 [04:37] <shadowofnoone> In singleplayer, I mine a block, but it's still there! and i can walk thorugh it.
#423 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> The 1.3 pre-release?
#424 [04:38] <shadowofnoone> And when i look around, it glitches and i can see through stuff
#425 [04:38] <shadowofnoone> Umm. Let me check my version.
#426 [04:38] <shadowofnoone> I think i have 1.2.5
#427 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> That's very odd. It implies that some memory trouble may be occurring.
#428 [04:38] <shadowofnoone> It says that sometimes!
#429 [04:38] <shadowofnoone> Something like that anyways.
#430 [04:39] <shadowofnoone> so does that mean you know how to fix it then if you know whats causing it?
#431 [04:39] * IcyMountains [IcyMountains@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#432 [04:39] <IcyMountains> !check
#433 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> possibly
#434 [04:39] <shadowofnoone> Cause this is affecting my playing. And even when mobs come, there invisible.
#435 [04:39] <IcyMountains> WTF?
#436 [04:39] <IcyMountains> I got this all set up
#437 [04:39] <IcyMountains> yesterday
#438 [04:39] <shadowofnoone> Sometimes there invisible. Sometimes not.
#439 [04:39] * WolfyCole910 [WolfyCole910@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#440 [04:40] <shadowofnoone> The game works fine for like 2 minutes when i start playing, but then it glitches.
#441 [04:40] <IcyMountains> Help?
#442 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone increase your java memory - go to control panel => java => java tab => view (runtime settings) => runtime parameters "-Xmx3072m", click ok (twice to close both windows) and then try again
#443 [04:40] <shadowofnoone> So is someone trying to hack me or something? Cause the minecraft window also closes when i play minecraft.
#444 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Oh but first, how much memory do you currently have?
#445 [04:40] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#446 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: No hacking, that just further evidence that it's a memory issue too
#447 [04:42] <IcyMountains> Please may i have some help?
#448 [04:42] <IcyMountains> I can't reach my own server
#449 [04:42] <IcyMountains> But yesterday it was working perfectly normally
#450 [04:42] <shadowofnoone> i havent got anything in the paramaters, could that be affecting it?
#451 [04:42] <IcyMountains> I have the console running
#452 [04:42] <IcyMountains> And no errors have come up
#453 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: With nothing there it just uses default values
#454 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: I'm not all that good with server stuff yet, or else I would help
#455 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: How much memory does your computer have?
#456 [04:43] <IcyMountains> RAM?
#457 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: pardon
#458 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: How much memory does your computer have?
#459 [04:44] <IcyMountains> GreyVulpine: Would you be able to help me please?
#460 [04:44] <IcyMountains> GreyVulpine was the one who recently helped me get my server up and running
#461 [04:44] <IcyMountains> But now my server is failing
#462 [04:44] <shadowofnoone> 38.5GB
#463 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: That sounds like available hard drive space instead
#464 [04:46] <shadowofnoone> ohkayy, so where do i find the ram then..?
#465 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> Start menu > right-click on Computer > Properties
#466 [04:47] <shadowofnoone> 1.6GHz, 0.99 GB of RAM
#467 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Okay, thanks. Your problem is that the computer is barely capable of running on the current ram that it currently has. Trying to play a memory intensivee game like Minecraft is just not going to happen without an increase there.
#468 [04:49] <shadowofnoone> so do you have any suggestions of how i can fix this then?
#469 [04:49] <shadowofnoone> or does this mean i cant play minecraft?
#470 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> Upgrading your memory to 2 Gigs is recommended
#471 [04:50] <shadowofnoone> How do i upgrade it?
#472 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> Take the computer to a repair store, buy another gig, and have them install it for you
#473 [04:50] <shadowofnoone> Oh...
#474 [04:50] <shadowofnoone> I bought minecraft yesterday.
#475 [04:50] <shadowofnoone> :c
#476 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> Extra memory doesn't come with the game
#477 [04:51] <shadowofnoone> i know. should just be stated on the game that you need a certain amount of space..
#478 [04:51] <shadowofnoone>
#479 [04:51] <Necrodoom> it states in the FAQ
#480 [04:52] <shadowofnoone> do you know roughly how much a gig would cost?
#481 [04:52] <Necrodoom> but its pretty much off the chart
#482 [04:52] <shadowofnoone> :(
#483 [04:52] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: depends on country, but its pretty cheap
#484 [04:52] <shadowofnoone> Australia
#485 [04:53] <shadowofnoone> just an approximate cost :)
#486 [04:53] <shadowofnoone> Please
#487 [04:53] <shadowofnoone> Disk? Where are you D:
#488 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> New Zealand here - I'm looking for you
#489 [04:54] <shadowofnoone> Thanks. Always wanted to goto NZ
#490 [04:54] <shadowofnoone>
#491 [04:54] <shadowofnoone>
#492 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> You can get 2 gigs of memory for as little as $20
#493 [04:54] <shadowofnoone> I see.
#494 [04:54] <shadowofnoone> Thats pretty cool/
#495 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> http://www.techbuy.com.au/searchcat/MEMORY_MEMORY_DDR-3_RAM.asp
#496 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> Oh cool
#497 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> On that site now.
#498 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> Thanks.
#499 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> It all depends on where you go though. Some places might charge a service fee for fitting it for you, it depends on how nice they are
#500 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> What about Dick-Smith
#501 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> I wonder if they sell it.
#502 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> In my experience they're more likely to break thiings than fix them
#503 [04:55] <shadowofnoone> DickSmith?
#504 [04:56] <shadowofnoone> Oh. Lol. Haven't bought stuff from them before.
#505 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> They're a pretty rough outfit. High prices, staff don't care and poor service
#506 [04:56] <shadowofnoone> I want to play minecraft so badly! :(
#507 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> Get your hardware requirements up to scratch and things will be great
#508 [04:56] <shadowofnoone> I've been watching The Yogzcast (BlueXephoes) And that makes me want to play it more.
#509 [04:57] <shadowofnoone> Alright. I will try. Maybe in a week or tommorow or when i can do it.
#510 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> You can try reducing the load on the game in the meantime. Setting the view distance to as close as practical, for example.
#511 [04:58] <shadowofnoone> >DiskDaemon> AlrightIWillTryNow
#512 [04:58] <shadowofnoone> Onesecond.
#513 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> It's not likely to help much, but it might reduce the demands on the system by a little.
#514 [04:58] <shadowofnoone> Alright. I shall try.
#515 [04:59] <shadowofnoone> Oh
#516 [04:59] <shadowofnoone> in minecraft video settings it shows the amount
#517 [04:59] <shadowofnoone> Now its gone
#518 [05:00] <shadowofnoone> Thanks disk. Gonna play for a bit and report back it it works.
#519 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> righto - keep the plans for the extra computer memory though - you'll need it
#520 [05:01] <shadowofnoone> Still glitching
#521 [05:01] <shadowofnoone> :(
#522 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> Gonna have to get a bigger memory chip
#523 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> Even my character is glitched
#524 [05:02] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: can you provide a picture of the glitching?
#525 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> when i go in the inventory
#526 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> Necro, how do i give a picture?
#527 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> I have a youtube account. I can make a video of it.
#528 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> The following page gives you an idea about the types of hardware that are used, and how they perform http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#529 [05:02] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: picture is enough
#530 [05:02] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#531 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> How do i give a picture necrodoom?
#532 [05:02] <shadowofnoone> <~<
#533 [05:02] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: printscreen button on the keyboard
#534 [05:03] <shadowofnoone> I know. Where do i put it tho.
#535 [05:03] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: paste into paint
#536 [05:03] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: upload into imageshack
#537 [05:03] <shadowofnoone> Noo.
#538 [05:03] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: or photobucket
#539 [05:03] <shadowofnoone> Nty.
#540 [05:03] <shadowofnoone> I have a utube video
#541 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: Another solution is to install a mod called OptiFine, which can help to reduce the video demands on the system
#542 [05:04] <shadowofnoone> I'll just upload the video
#543 [05:04] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: how is doing a video easier than taking a picture
#544 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> I never thought I'd see the day when recording and uplodaing video is considered to be easier than pitting up a picture.
#545 [05:05] <shadowofnoone> It's easier for me.
#546 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> shadowofnoone: A note from that hardware performance page for a 1GB system says "Have to turn off clouds, particles, etc. Fast graphics mode with Tiny distance, not playable overwise"
#547 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> Give that a go.
#548 [05:06] <shadowofnoone> I did
#549 [05:06] <shadowofnoone> But it is still glitching
#550 [05:06] <shadowofnoone> It isn't there anymore but still glitching
#551 [05:06] <Necrodoom> minecraft should be playable on 1GB ram
#552 [05:06] <Necrodoom> i played MC easy on my 5 years old computer
#553 [05:06] <Necrodoom> 6 years old*
#554 [05:06] <Necrodoom> with windows 7 on the background
#555 [05:07] <Necrodoom> it may be AA
#556 [05:07] <Necrodoom> depends on the glitching
#557 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> Do you have any assistance for him if it's not AA, to help him get as good a performance as you did on your 1GB system?
#558 [05:08] <shadowofnoone> http://youtu.be/E3Hunuv9H3o
#559 [05:08] <shadowofnoone> Bad graphics
#560 [05:08] <shadowofnoone> thats just my recorder tho
#561 [05:09] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i ran vanilla
#562 [05:09] <shadowofnoone> Can u see it?
#563 [05:09] <shadowofnoone> The glitch?
#564 [05:09] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: yep
#565 [05:09] <shadowofnoone> Oh no. I gtg
#566 [05:09] <shadowofnoone> 7=
#567 [05:09] <Necrodoom> shadowofnoone: how much FPS does F3 says you do?
#568 [05:10] <shadowofnoone> Dunno, Bye. Will be back tommorow
#569 [05:11] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: it doesnt look like performance, but deleting map.txt should work
#570 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> I feel like I'm holding a hammer looking at a screw. Could it be something else other than memory?
#571 [05:11] <Necrodoom> it looks like some sort of stutter
#572 [05:12] <Necrodoom> like if shadow is sitting in a middle of a chunk sized lighting error
#573 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> He was saying that it runs fine for a few minutes before it glitches, and that it also just crashes close out of Minecraft without warning
#574 [05:15] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: the video looks like its full of lighting error, and the whole thing sounds like symthoms of it
#575 [06:06] * Peps1Lem0n [Peps1Lem0n@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#576 [06:06] <Peps1Lem0n> hi
#577 [06:07] <Peps1Lem0n> i bought 1 this account and it isn't premium :|
#578 [06:08] <DiskDaemon> Let's hope he returns
#579 [06:13] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#580 [06:15] * adam_exe [adam_exe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#581 [06:17] * Juze_ [Juze_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#582 [06:37] * Juze [Juze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#583 [06:44] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#584 [06:49] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#585 [06:53] * Meganega_ [Meganega_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#586 [06:55] <Meganega_> Does Minecraft Classic Mode Multiplayer support Java 7?
#587 [06:55] <Calinou> try? :P
#588 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> not that I know of
#589 [06:55] <Calinou> why do people even play classic *_*
#590 [06:55] <Meganega_> It always says "The server is probably down". It says this on all servers
#591 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> because it's free
#592 [06:55] * Calinou points to minetest
#592 [06:56] <Meganega_> What is minetest?
#593 [06:57] <DiskDaemon> A free competitor http://minetest.net/
#594 [06:57] <Meganega_> Ok thanks
#595 [06:58] * MoJad [MoJad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#596 [07:03] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#597 [07:15] * Iwako [Iwako@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#598 [07:18] <Iwako> Does Mojang have plans to add a global server list of some sort, like outdated creative minecraft ?
#599 [07:18] <Boreeas> No.
#600 [07:18] <Iwako> Or connect world of you and your friend? Any news on that?
#601 [07:18] <Boreeas> It's also pretty much impossible
#602 [07:19] <Iwako> Why is that?
#603 [07:19] <Necrodoom> due to how minecraft works
#604 [07:19] <Boreeas> Because there are hundreds of thousands of server out there. None of them have any connection to Mojang
#605 [07:20] <Necrodoom> there are unoffical server lists, containing a few hundred servers each, though
#606 [07:20] <Boreeas> How are they going to make a public list then? The obvious problems of storage space, search latency and the huge amount of useless results you would get
#607 [07:20] <Boreeas> +aside
#608 [07:21] <Iwako> Ok but the old minecraft creative did it... so why does it not work with the newest minecraft ? Not all servers have to show up I would be happy with a few
#609 [07:21] <Boreeas> Because there was only a small amount of servers back then
#610 [07:21] <Boreeas> ??> Iwako smp/servers
#611 [07:21] <VoxelHead> Iwako: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#612 [07:21] <VoxelHead> Iwako: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-survival-servers/. Also, try the #smp channel.
#613 [07:21] <Necrodoom> Iwako: classic was much smaller
#614 [07:22] <Necrodoom> Iwako: and it also requires mojang to collect even more information from servers, where the correct services already dont work well
#615 [07:23] <Iwako> Ah, I would love if Mojang would add a global server list , too bad it won't work then
#616 [07:24] <Necrodoom> i would love if they would fix bugs instead of adding them
#617 [07:29] <Iwako> Thanks for the answers, i'm now leaving :D
#618 [07:35] <Calinou> <Boreeas> Because there are hundreds of thousands of server out there. None of them have any connection to Mojang < that's why
#619 [07:35] * barneygale [barneygale@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#620 [07:35] <Calinou> the game is WAY too big
#621 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: It seems that the xbox fixed that particular problem
#622 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> with a 1024x1024 square map
#623 [07:46] <Calinou> I mean as in popularity :P
#624 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> for the entirity of the complete game world
#625 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> oh yes
#626 [07:46] <Calinou> not as in size
#627 [07:46] <Calinou> xbox doesn't have infinite maps for a reason; microsoft shit
#628 [07:46] <Calinou> "more space to write "penis" using signs and blocks everywhere :("
#629 [07:59] <lemon-rev> its not mircosoft its mircocrap lol
#630 [08:00] <Calinou> +1
#631 [08:10] <Necrodoom> lemon-rev: its MC leaks all over, again
#632 [08:21] * Malvburo [Malvburo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#633 [08:22] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#634 [08:35] * TheTFEF [TheTFEF@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#635 [08:38] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#636 [08:39] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#637 [08:41] * Magiobiwan [Magiobiwan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#638 [08:43] * willowthedog [willowthedog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#639 [08:51] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#640 [09:12] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#641 [09:13] * SgtTraveler [SgtTraveler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#642 [09:24] * flitch [flitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#643 [09:36] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#644 [09:58] * robin [robin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#645 [10:00] * Nibato [Nibato@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#646 [10:00] * Ignorama [Ignorama@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#647 [10:05] * Gunslinger2 [Gunslinger2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#648 [10:06] <Gunslinger2> hello
#649 [10:07] * andrewxios [andrewxios@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#650 [10:10] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#651 [10:11] * sShaDOhsS [sShaDOhsS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#652 [10:12] <sShaDOhsS> Hi, does someone know the official update URL for stable Minecraft releases?
#653 [10:12] <Scott> Your launcher will update the client.
#654 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> Are you having some trouble there?
#655 [10:13] <sShaDOhsS> Yeah, I have a custom launcher. But if noone wants to help me because of that, I'm fine with that.
#656 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> WHat sort of issue are you having with it?
#657 [10:14] <sShaDOhsS> I'm using SK89Q's Launcher. It does not connect with his own update server.
#658 [10:14] * TheEmpyreon [TheEmpyreon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#659 [10:14] <DiskDaemon> Okay, yes - we cannot help with that. I suggest that you get in tough with the forum that's dedicated to that launcher
#660 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> *in touch
#661 [10:15] <sShaDOhsS> Okay. Thanks anyways.
#662 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> That forum being at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1104030-
#663 [10:16] <TheEmpyreon> Hello, I have a question, my minecraft shutsdown right after the login/update screen.
#664 [10:16] <TheEmpyreon> how can i fix this?
#665 [10:17] <lutzee> TheEmpyreon, have you tried force updating?
#666 [10:19] <DiskDaemon> TheEmpyreon: Are you running any mods with Minecraft?
#667 [10:19] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#668 [10:19] <TheEmpyreon> Before i deleted .minecraft folder yes, but not after
#669 [10:20] <lutzee> has minecraft downloaded all the files that should be in the .minecraft folder?
#670 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> Are you able to force an update?
#671 [10:20] <TheEmpyreon> not of what i can find no
#672 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> The option is in the Options button
#673 [10:20] <TheEmpyreon> ok, hold on just 1 sec
#674 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#675 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> TheEmpyreon forceupdate
#676 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> TheEmpyreon forceupdate
#677 [10:21] <VoxelHead> TheEmpyreon: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#678 [10:21] <VoxelHead> TheEmpyreon: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#679 [10:22] <TheEmpyreon> i have done that, i got to the mojang screen then i got black screen and got kicked direct
#680 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's get an error log. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/903148-getting-and-identifying-error-logs/#geterrlog
#681 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> ??> TheEmpyreon pastebin
#682 [10:23] <VoxelHead> TheEmpyreon: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#683 [10:27] <TheEmpyreon> http://pastebin.com/yKXRfA7J
#684 [10:28] <lutzee> fraps64.dll+0x8ef3 do you have fraps running?
#685 [10:28] <TheEmpyreon> no
#686 [10:28] <TheEmpyreon> yes i had in inte the activity handler
#687 [10:29] <lutzee> close fraps and try again
#688 [10:29] <TheEmpyreon> now it works, thanks guys
#689 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#690 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: team work o/ * \o
#691 [10:30] <lutzee> hehe
#692 [10:30] <lutzee> odd that fraps would break it
#693 [10:31] * Omega_Guardian [Omega_Guardian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#694 [10:50] * aidono [aidono@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#695 [10:52] <aidono> hey all o/ - I was wondering... I want to start playing again with an old map on my server (multiplayer). It's converted to anvil but I don't know in which minecraft version it was generated. Do I have all the new terrain features automatically or should I use the seed to generate a new map and transfer my buildings into it with mcedit?
#696 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> New terrain features will occur on newly generated chunks
#697 [10:55] <lutzee> but you will have some dodgy features where map generation varies
#698 [10:55] <lutzee> like big flat slices in the land
#699 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> vertical slices that run along the chunk edges, where the generation technique now differs
#700 [10:56] <lutzee> yes that (damn my poor explanation skills)
#701 [10:57] <aidono> so ... besides some esthetic flaws, as long as i explore new lands, i'll have everything a new map has
#702 [10:57] <lutzee> yes
#703 [10:57] <aidono> that's cool.. better then I expected :)
#704 [10:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Dun worry, the only ugliness is that ugly chunk error
#705 [10:59] <aidono> is there a way in mcedit to display only user altered terrain? so i can see only things built or altered... so i can see where i went underground?
#706 [10:59] <lutzee> nope
#707 [10:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutz: Best way to explain it? Think of a cake sliced into sqaures. You try to grab a piece in the middle of 4, and then that tear in teh piece of cake is what it will look like
#708 [10:59] <CrusaderDeleters> you will have some land that is prolly raised or lowered, with a different terrain pattern.
#709 [11:00] <lutzee> CrusaderDeleters, i'll get a picture one second
#710 [11:00] <aidono> thxx
#711 [11:01] <Gunslinger2> anyone have a lot of experience with redstone circuits?
#712 [11:01] <DiskDaemon> some
#713 [11:01] <CrusaderDeleters> http://facepunch.com/threads/1099850
#714 [11:01] <CrusaderDeleters> This thread has a couple pictures. Just scroll downward some,.
#715 [11:02] <lutzee> Gunslinger2, yes (also an electronics student)
#716 [11:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutzee, I've been playing minecraft for over a year and a half. Still did not get a good circuit going. c:
#717 [11:04] <lutzee> Yes well people dont realise how logical logic is :3
#718 [11:04] <DiskDaemon> Cue - people asking "Why can't you make this easier?" :)
#719 [11:05] <Gunslinger2> im making a trap with 3 to 4 pistons, i need 1 (maybe2) pistons to stay open until a pressure plate is hit then close but activate 2 more pistons
#720 [11:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I do. :c
#721 [11:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I understand electrical engineering
#722 [11:05] <Gunslinger2> at the same time
#723 [11:05] <CrusaderDeleters> It's just the massive size of the redstone
#724 [11:05] <DiskDaemon> That sounds quite easily doable.
#725 [11:06] <CrusaderDeleters> I could do that! :D
#726 [11:06] <Gunslinger2> well not at the same time, there has to be a short delay
#727 [11:06] <CrusaderDeleters> I can still do that!
#728 [11:06] <DiskDaemon> Gunslinger2: What are the details on this trap that you're wanting?
#729 [11:06] <lutzee> CrusaderDeleters, electrical engineering != electronics ;)
#730 [11:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Electronics = harder.
#731 [11:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutz, make me a computer den. c:
#732 [11:07] <Necrodoom> damn redstone noobs making everything redstone a medium sized repulser
#733 [11:07] <lutzee> I don't have the time to make all the memory banks and transistors and adders and shit..
#734 [11:07] <Necrodoom> gotta delete them before chunk chokes from block updates
#735 [11:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Haha.
#736 [11:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, I'm not a total noob. I just hate the fact taht whatever I want done takes up too much space
#737 [11:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I end up replacing every block down 1 level over and over and over again.
#738 [11:08] <lutzee> you see i like finding stuff lixe 5x1x4 toggle latches
#739 [11:09] <lutzee> i've seen one that being 1 wide with no redstone
#740 [11:09] <Gunslinger2> 2 person booby trap, one person is reading a sign, other person has to stand on the pressure plate, person 1 falls through hole(made by piston(s) and a piston(2)push them off a ledge
#741 [11:09] <lutzee> so you can have them next to each other
#742 [11:09] <DiskDaemon> I saw Joe Hills do a video on making just that type oftrap recently
#743 [11:10] <DiskDaemon> I think in that case though it fired arrows if your partner wasn't standing on the pressure plate
#744 [11:11] <lutzee> Gunslinger2, is this on a server?
#745 [11:11] <Gunslinger2> yes
#746 [11:11] <lutzee> i could come and help you that way? :)
#747 [11:12] <Gunslinger2> mcminecraft.selfip.com, i dont know if i got the connection issues resolved or not so you may or may not be able to connect
#748 [11:12] * CommandoTex [CommandoTex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#749 [11:13] <CommandoTex> Bonjour, il a t-il des techniciens ici ?? oO
#750 [11:13] <lutzee> Englsh please :(
#751 [11:13] * Kuth [Kuth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#752 [11:13] <CommandoTex> oh ! Don't worry ! ^^
#753 [11:14] <CommandoTex> so, I wonder if I bought Minecraft!
#754 [11:14] <Necrodoom> !haspaid CommandoTex
#755 [11:14] <CommandoTex> XD ok ! Sorry !
#756 [11:14] <CommandoTex> !haspaid
#757 [11:14] <CommandoTex> --"
#758 [11:16] <lutzee> !paid commandotex
#759 [11:18] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#760 [11:21] <DiskDaemon> My next few weeks will be busy. I'm collating successful examples from here at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/HelpLogs and am building a set of categories at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#761 [11:22] <Calinou> cool
#762 [11:22] <DiskDaemon> Eventually, the plan is to put together some kind of knowledge base, and some kind of troubleshooting flow to help with things
#763 [11:22] <Calinou> good idea
#764 [11:23] <Calinou> heh I just found my name in logs :D
#765 [11:24] * HuckLBarry [HuckLBarry@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#766 [11:25] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, we'll be all over the place in there. The logs are edited and cut back though to only what's relevant for what is being troubleshooted
#767 [11:27] <HuckLBarry> I recently began playing Minecrft on my Ipad (Pocket Edition). Frequently, I find that I am unable to pick up resources after mining or crafting them. My sons are able to pick them up if playing on my server with their Itouch. Anyone ever heard of this problem? I tried reinstalling Minecraft PE, but that did not help.
#768 [11:28] <Necrodoom> i may be wrong here, but isnt PE edition is completely creative?
#769 [11:28] <Calinou> when you can't pick them up, is it in singleplayer or multiplayer?
#770 [11:28] <Calinou> Necrodoom, no there is survival mode now
#771 [11:28] <Calinou> I only play PC edition so I can't really test :/
#772 [11:28] <DiskDaemon> I'll see if I can find something about that in http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#773 [11:28] <DiskDaemon> No, not there sorry
#774 [11:29] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_known_bugs
#775 [11:29] <Necrodoom> when loading a world with lava it will light ALL blocks on fire except bedrock and will not stop unless all blocks except bedrock are gone. due to all blocks being on fire the game will lag very much and possibly crash due to to much things happening at once in-game
#776 [11:29] <Necrodoom> holy, fucking, lol.
#777 [11:29] * AuBot kicked Necrodoom from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ecrodoom :Please keep it civil.)
#778 [11:29] * Necrodoom [Necrodoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#779 [11:29] <HuckLBarry> I cannot pick them up in single or multiplayer
#780 [11:30] <Necrodoom> ..
#781 [11:30] <Necrodoom> thats one big list of bugs for PE edition
#782 [11:31] <DiskDaemon> Yes, i's that way for many areas of the game - which is what helps to make finding/fixing things all the more difficult
#783 [11:32] <DiskDaemon> HuckLBarry: Could it be related to this issue here? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1188421-more-inventory-space-in-survival-030/
#784 [11:32] <Calinou> "decompiling a mobile game - as hard as finding a dota2 beta key" ~Calinou
#785 [11:33] <Necrodoom> its like PE edition is this "if you have lava, your game will CRASH!!! if you click too fast, you game will CRASH!!! if you look at me strange, your game will CRASH!!!"
#786 [11:34] <Calinou> lol
#787 [11:34] <DiskDaemon> I'll have to sleep on this one
#788 [11:39] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#789 [11:39] * Daemon [Daemon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#790 [11:40] <Daemon> Hi i need some help i can't get the minecraft to download on my Pc anyone no why
#791 [11:41] <Daemon> it just won't update it end up getting error 4 can't connect
#792 [11:42] <DiskDaemon> Daemon: That sounds like a Java 7 issue, where it's trying to use IPv6 instead of IPv4
#793 [11:43] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#794 [11:43] <DiskDaemon> Easy solution - remove Java 7 and put on Java 6 instead
#795 [11:43] <Daemon> ok i try that
#796 [11:45] <Boreeas> We need more Daemons
#797 [11:46] <Daemon> lol
#798 [11:46] <Daemon> where do i download java 6 from
#799 [11:47] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/1.6
#800 [11:47] <DiskDaemon> I'll find out where
#801 [11:47] <Daemon> thank you Disk
#802 [11:48] <DiskDaemon> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#803 [11:48] * Silent [Silent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#804 [11:50] <Daemon> thanks disk
#805 [11:51] <Daemon> thanks that got it to work
#806 [11:51] <Daemon> thanks you very much
#807 [11:52] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#808 [11:52] <Daemon> they should sort that out on java 7
#809 [11:53] <DiskDaemon> It would be good for minecraft to sort itself out as well. If ipv6 (the java7 preferred) isn't available it should be able to fall back to ipv4 in some manner
#810 [11:54] <Daemon> true minecraft should no about this problem i bet a few people have had the problem so they should get it sorted
#811 [12:09] * noisy [noisy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#812 [12:10] <noisy> hey anyone know why all my worlds got deleted? i had gotten really far in one of my woprld and i got on one day and it was gone
#813 [12:11] <DiskDaemon> client or server?
#814 [12:12] <noisy> client. thats another problem my client wont ever stay downloaded. ill download it, it will pop up in a seperate window. ill play it. quit, and it wont be downloaded.
#815 [12:12] <DiskDaemon> All of the client saves are stored in the .minecraft/saves/ folder
#816 [12:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> noisy win/.minecraft
#817 [12:13] <VoxelHead> noisy: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#818 [12:13] <noisy> do mi do this in the client or on the internet site
#819 [12:14] <DiskDaemon> do it on your computer
#820 [12:14] <noisy> alirght
#821 [12:15] * blob [blob@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#822 [12:15] <noisy> the data foler is empty..
#823 [12:16] <DiskDaemon> Well that's where the client files are supposed to be stored. I'm not sure on how to help you further from here
#824 [12:17] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#825 [12:17] * Drool [Drool@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#826 [12:20] <lutzee> noisy, is there stuff in the bin folder in the .minecraft folder?
#827 [12:20] <noisy> no
#828 [12:20] <lutzee> hmm
#829 [12:20] <noisy> yes
#830 [12:20] * MrWindypops [MrWindypops@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#831 [12:20] <noisy> natives, jinput,lwjgl, stuff like that
#832 [12:21] <noisy> all those are in bin, i forgot
#833 [12:21] <lutzee> oh right so the minecraft files aren't being deleted
#834 [12:22] <noisy> why wont my worlds show up when i start the game on singleplayer then?
#835 [12:22] <DiskDaemon> What is there in the saves folder?
#836 [12:22] <Necrodoom> world corruption?
#837 [12:23] <Necrodoom> if level.dat is corrupt save wont show up
#838 [12:23] <DiskDaemon> 4:22am - if the saves folder is empty, that is a cause for concern
#839 [12:23] <noisy> in the saves there is a new world and what looks to be my old world.
#840 [12:24] <noisy> but neither are showing up on my client to select to play the world
#841 [12:24] <DiskDaemon> You can find out where your game is locating itself my opening up the texture pack folder from within the game
#842 [12:25] <lutzee> Okay so the level.dat is corrupt
#843 [12:25] <lutzee> level.dat stores character information i believe?
#844 [12:25] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#845 [12:26] <noisy> texture packs is empty
#846 [12:26] <lutzee> Hmm was the solution opening the world in mcedit, and saving from there? i cannot remember
#847 [12:26] <noisy> and is there a way to uncorrupt or find the source of the corrupted folder
#848 [12:26] <DiskDaemon> That's one of them, yes
#849 [12:26] <Necrodoom> noisy: delete level.dat, change level.dat_old to level.dat
#850 [12:26] <Necrodoom> noisy: hopefully would work
#851 [12:26] <noisy> wheres level.dat?
#852 [12:26] <DiskDaemon> ??> noisy save/null
#853 [12:26] <VoxelHead> noisy: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#854 [12:26] <VoxelHead> noisy: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#855 [12:27] <DiskDaemon> However, this is blindly stupid me being up at 4:30am - all the best
#856 [12:27] <lutzee> good night :)
#857 [12:27] <noisy> <Necrodoom> where is level.dat
#858 [12:28] <Necrodoom> noisy: at saves folder
#859 [12:28] <Necrodoom> on the world folder
#860 [12:28] * mib_az5tef [mib_az5tef@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#861 [12:35] * zkxs [zkxs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#862 [12:41] * noisy [noisy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#863 [12:43] * ir132704 [ir132704@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#864 [12:43] <ir132704> hello?
#865 [12:43] <Necrodoom> hi
#866 [12:43] <ir132704> im trying to purchase minecraft
#867 [12:43] <ir132704> its not working
#868 [12:43] <Necrodoom> let me guess, you are using paypal
#869 [12:43] <ir132704> no.
#870 [12:44] <Necrodoom> aw
#871 [12:44] <ir132704> i clicked buy now
#872 [12:44] <ir132704> then visa
#873 [12:44] <ir132704> and now it has first name last name payment type and email
#874 [12:44] <Necrodoom> ir132704: inb4 anything, this is an unoffical IRC chat
#875 [12:44] <Necrodoom> ir132704: no mojang guys in here
#876 [12:44] <ir132704> payment type is a dropdown box
#877 [12:44] <ir132704> oh
#878 [12:44] <ir132704> okay
#879 [12:44] <ir132704> maybe you can help then
#880 [12:45] <Calinou> we can't really help with payment/account issues
#881 [12:45] <ir132704> dang...do you maybe know why the payment type box wont work?
#882 [12:45] <ir132704> its a dropdown box and when i click the arrow nothing comes up
#883 [12:45] <ir132704> empty box
#884 [12:45] <Calinou> huh; what's your browser
#885 [12:45] <ir132704> aurora
#886 [12:46] <lutzee> might be why
#887 [12:46] <ir132704> hmm...i also have firefox installed
#888 [12:46] <lutzee> try something more traditional
#889 [12:46] <lutzee> try firefox
#890 [12:46] <ir132704> okay
#891 [12:46] <ir132704> thanks
#892 [12:49] * SeySayux [SeySayux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#893 [12:54] * captainsparklez [captainsparklez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#894 [12:54] * SgtTraveler [SgtTraveler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#895 [12:54] <captainsparklez> i was playing minecraft classic in when i move a short distance the game freezes
#896 [12:58] <noisy> my game runs. but the saves are not there. i can get into the game on a new world. but i cannot run my old world. my old world will not shoqw up in world selections.
#897 [13:02] <Calinou> ?? save/null
#898 [13:02] <lutzee> ??> save/null
#899 [13:02] <Calinou> -_-
#900 [13:02] <lutzee> -.-
#901 [13:02] <lutzee> ??> noist save/null
#902 [13:02] <VoxelHead> noist: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#903 [13:02] <VoxelHead> noist: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#904 [13:02] <lutzee> meh
#905 [13:02] <Calinou> he left
#906 [13:02] <Calinou> and he was named noisy
#907 [13:03] <Calinou> this is why I want to punch today's computer users in the belly
#908 [13:19] <lutzee> !login
#909 [13:20] * cjs378 [cjs378@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#910 [13:20] <cjs378> anyone online?
#911 [13:20] <cjs378> I need help
#912 [13:21] <Boreeas> ??> cjs378 ask
#913 [13:21] <VoxelHead> cjs378: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#914 [13:21] <VoxelHead> cjs378: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#915 [13:22] * aaa [aaa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#916 [13:22] * AzerWin [AzerWin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#917 [13:22] <cjs378> Earlier today my friend came over to play minecraft and he used his account but now when i try to login to mine my password don't work i guess i forgot it but the problem is i can't access my email account to change it i want to contact mojang to have them force change my password is that possible?
#918 [13:22] <aaa> ok
#919 [13:22] <cjs378> i did
#920 [13:22] <AzerWin> Ya t'il des francais svp j'ai eu un tres gros probleme
#921 [13:22] <cjs378> gah
#922 [13:22] <aaa> i am having problems adding ram to my minecraft server
#923 [13:23] <aaa> in portforwarding
#924 [13:23] <Calinou> lol azer
#925 [13:23] <Boreeas> cjs378: Do you still have the payment receipt?
#926 [13:23] <cjs378> it was a gift account
#927 [13:23] <Calinou> > scam spotted
#928 [13:23] * aaa [aaa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#929 [13:24] <Boreeas> cjs378: Where did you get the gift code from?
#930 [13:24] <cjs378> my friend lol
#931 [13:24] <Boreeas> cjs378: Does your friend still have the payment receipt?
#932 [13:24] <cjs378> maybe i'll ask him if he's on
#933 [13:28] <cjs378> dang hes currently away
#934 [13:29] <cjs378> mojang doesn't have a support email or anything?
#935 [13:29] <Boreeas> They have http://help.mojang.com/ - but without prove that you own the account, you won't get far
#936 [13:30] <cjs378> i do own it i swear ;_;
#937 [13:31] <Boreeas> cjs378: Swearing isn't good enough, anyone could say that. You need access to your email account or the payment receipt.
#938 [13:32] <cjs378> I know dude but i can't do that right now unless i can magically figure at my password then my account is gonna rot forever
#939 [13:33] <ac3xx> cjs378, so you think mojang should change your account password just because you say it's yours?
#940 [13:33] * Eledore [Eledore@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#941 [13:33] <ac3xx> no proof or anything
#942 [13:33] <ac3xx> don't you think it's a tad suspicious that you've forgotten your password, you can't for some reason access your email, and you don't have a payment receipt?
#943 [13:34] <cjs378> maybe if i give them info on my previous passwords and then date i registered i dunno its just such a waste
#944 [13:34] <Boreeas> They won't save your previous passwords, and the date of registration is fairly easy to figure out
#945 [13:35] <ac3xx> besides, I'd hope they at least hashed the passwords
#946 [13:36] <Calinou> ragequit
#947 [13:36] <Calinou> ac3xx, who? how do you know? :P
#948 [13:36] <ac3xx> Calinou, I hope mojang hash player passwords
#949 [13:36] <ac3xx> and not store them in plaintext
#950 [13:36] <ac3xx> :p
#951 [13:36] <Boreeas> Hashed Passwords are fairly common, I guess
#952 [13:36] <ac3xx> If not hash, then hash+salt, or even better bcrypt
#953 [13:36] <Calinou> pretty much all login servers hash passwords
#954 [13:36] <Boreeas> s/common/standard/
#955 [13:37] <ac3xx> Boreeas, or linkedin just hashing passwords with no salt
#956 [13:37] <Calinou> only assholes make login servers with plaintext passwords [inb4 kick]
#957 [13:37] <Calinou> jokes on you, VoxelHead.
#958 [13:45] <sugoi> !login
#959 [13:45] <sugoi> hmmm
#960 [13:45] <sugoi> psh, NOW it works
#961 [13:46] * flitch [flitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#962 [13:50] * titegtnodI [titegtnodI@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#963 [13:51] <titegtnodI> GreyVulpine or Kealper! I'm actually having Minecraft issues this time!
#964 [13:51] <Kealper> :o
#965 [13:51] <Kealper> what do?
#966 [13:51] <titegtnodI> Minecraft won't use my dedicated graphics card! D:
#967 [13:51] <titegtnodI> Every other game does D:
#968 [13:51] <titegtnodI> Except LoL
#969 [13:51] <Kealper> are you on a laptop with dual GPUs or something?
#970 [13:51] <titegtnodI> But LoL also sucks
#971 [13:51] <Kealper> lol
#972 [13:51] <titegtnodI> I have an APU and a dedicated Graphics
#973 [13:51] <Kealper> or should i say... LoL.
#974 [13:52] <Kealper> oh
#975 [13:52] <titegtnodI> haha :3
#976 [13:52] <Kealper> hmm... what OS?
#977 [13:52] <titegtnodI> Windows 7!
#978 [13:52] <titegtnodI> Which Minecraft says "unknown Windows OS: Windows 7" but w/e
#979 [13:53] <titegtnodI> "WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7"
#980 [13:53] <Kealper> yeah that's normal.... but have you tried checking inside the vision control center to see if you can disable the APU's GPU?
#981 [13:53] <titegtnodI> I can disable my APU but I'm using crossfire!
#982 [13:53] <Kealper> i don't have any experience with those first-hand because i'm poor and don't have one :o
#983 [13:53] <titegtnodI> They're cheap!
#984 [13:53] <titegtnodI> My lappy was $550 :3
#985 [13:54] <titegtnodI> I'm poor too! I saved for weeks!
#986 [13:54] <Kealper> oh, you've got them crossfired together? is that actually... any good? rofl
#987 [13:54] <titegtnodI> Well I run D3 at 70-150fps
#988 [13:54] <titegtnodI> But I run Minecraft at 19fps
#989 [13:54] <Devin> wat
#990 [13:55] <Kealper> hmm... if i had to guess, i'd say somehow your APU is marked as your primary GPU, so for games that completely don't support crossfire, it defaults to the primary GPU of the setup...
#991 [13:55] <titegtnodI> The entire time MC runs my GPU is at 0%
#992 [13:55] <titegtnodI> I have it set to anything that doesn't support it defaults to my GPU D:
#993 [13:55] <Kealper> but i've also got no experience with crossfire either, so....
#994 [13:55] <titegtnodI> Well I tried, I have /everything/ set to performance
#995 [13:55] <titegtnodI> Awh
#996 [13:56] <titegtnodI> So the only soultion is to wait for Mojang to fixit?
#997 [13:56] <Kealper> can you disable crossfire for a few and try MC to see if that is actually the problem?
#998 [13:56] <titegtnodI> okai
#999 [13:57] <titegtnodI> Nope!
#1000 [13:57] <titegtnodI> It /really/ wants to use my APU
#1001 [13:57] <Kealper> O.o
#1002 [13:57] * Kealper hits the googles
#1002 [13:58] <titegtnodI> Try terms like AMD A6 HD 7670M and K53T (My lappy model)
#1003 [13:58] <titegtnodI> I tried the Googles
#1004 [13:58] <titegtnodI> Then I tried the xales
#1005 [13:59] <titegtnodI> Then I came here! :D
#1006 [13:59] <Kealper> the xales couldn't help either? D:
#1007 [13:59] <lutzee> remember minecraft is single threaded btw... might be that fact thats causing the problem
#1008 [13:59] <titegtnodI> Nope! I don't think a lot of people have APUs
#1009 [13:59] <Kealper> lutzee: wouldn't be the issue
#1010 [13:59] <titegtnodI> Well, it should default to the GPU if anything
#1011 [13:59] <titegtnodI> Everything else does (except LoL)
#1012 [13:59] <titegtnodI> Hell, FLASH uses my GPU
#1013 [14:00] <Kealper> lutzee: AMD has a type of processor called an "APU" which is a normal processor that has a "dedicated" GPU chipset on-die, so it's both sort of good at games and sort of good at processing
#1014 [14:00] <lutzee> hmmm okay
#1015 [14:00] <titegtnodI> Well that's the laymens terms way of putting it
#1016 [14:00] <titegtnodI> If you're really interested Google it :D
#1017 [14:00] <lutzee> I still have no clue why my laptop eats 4.3gb of ram for hardware though hehe
#1018 [14:01] <Kealper> titegtnodI: i'm really not sure at all, and i'm not finding anything like your problem on the googles D:
#1019 [14:01] <titegtnodI> Awh D:
#1020 [14:01] <titegtnodI> I know 2 other people with K53Ts (Yeah Iv'e been trying to figure this out)
#1021 [14:01] <titegtnodI> Same issues
#1022 [14:01] <titegtnodI> I'll try Runescape, that's a Java game
#1023 [14:01] <Calinou> MC doesn't support crossfire. this. is. indige gamesssssssssssss
#1024 [14:01] <Calinou> also, AMD sucks, and crossfire sucks. 8)
#1025 [14:02] <Kealper> Calinou: that isn't the issue either, Minecraft is choosing the crappier of two GPUs in a system without a way to change it
#1026 [14:02] <Devin> AMD sucks so muchhh. :|
#1027 [14:02] <Kealper> now now kids, i'm an AMD fanboy myself
#1028 [14:02] <titegtnodI> AMD > All
#1029 [14:02] <lutzee> This is something i want answering, why does my laptop dedicate 4.3/8gb of ram to hardware? O.o
#1030 [14:03] <Kealper> titegtnodI: gimme a sec, i'll see if there is a switch to specify what GPU to use
#1031 [14:03] <Kealper> lutzee: to hardware?
#1032 [14:03] <Kealper> lutzee: i was unaware something could dedicate ram to hardware... i'm not even sure what that means :o
#1033 [14:03] <Calinou> maybe in your driver control panel?
#1034 [14:03] <titegtnodI> Kealper: Thanks! There is in "switchable graphics" where you can set what programs use what
#1035 [14:03] <lutzee> i've checked everything it's odd
#1036 [14:04] <lutzee> laptop had 4gb of ram in, then i doubled it and the hardware use doubled (not 4gb like it would if more than 4 isn't supported)
#1037 [14:04] <lutzee> one second i'll grab a pic
#1038 [14:05] <titegtnodI> Okay! We made LoL use the GPU
#1039 [14:05] <titegtnodI> Now it's only Minecraft
#1040 [14:05] <Kealper> titegtnodI: are you setting minecraft.exe or javaw.exe to use your normal card?
#1041 [14:05] <titegtnodI> Also Sanctum is an Indie game, it uses my GPU
#1042 [14:05] <titegtnodI> Both
#1043 [14:05] <titegtnodI> wait
#1044 [14:05] <titegtnodI> Both use the GPU
#1045 [14:05] <titegtnodI> miencraft.exe,java.exe, and javaw.exe
#1046 [14:06] <titegtnodI> miencraft*
#1047 [14:06] <titegtnodI> ugh
#1048 [14:06] <titegtnodI> minecraft***8
#1049 [14:06] <Kealper> oh, all of those are set and it still refuses to use the right one? O.o
#1050 [14:06] <titegtnodI> Mhm
#1051 [14:06] <Kealper> i have absolutely no idea then :o
#1052 [14:06] <titegtnodI> Minecraft is evil
#1053 [14:06] <lutzee> here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/hardwareram.png
#1054 [14:06] <titegtnodI> I'm trying to install 32bit Java
#1055 [14:07] <Kealper> GreyVulpine might have heard of something like this before, but i certainly haven't
#1056 [14:07] <lutzee> before i doubled my ram it used 2.1gb btw..
#1057 [14:07] * flitch_ [flitch_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1058 [14:07] * Matt_ [Matt_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1059 [14:08] <Kealper> lutzee: i also have no idea on that either, my computer only shows 129MB to that hardware reserved thing
#1060 [14:08] <Kealper> actually
#1061 [14:08] <Kealper> i might have an idea
#1062 [14:08] <titegtnodI> :O
#1063 [14:08] <titegtnodI> I blame Minecraft
#1064 [14:08] <Kealper> sadly not for you, but lutzee
#1065 [14:09] <lutzee> mm?
#1066 [14:09] <Kealper> lutzee: you said you're on a laptop, right?
#1067 [14:09] <lutzee> yes, i am,
#1068 [14:09] <titegtnodI> Well for lutzee's issues I blame Minecraft
#1069 [14:09] <lutzee> titegtnodI, minecraft is not running
#1070 [14:09] <titegtnodI> I blame it anyways!
#1071 [14:09] <lutzee> anyway, my friend has a pc with similar spec, 8gb ram, same CPU
#1072 [14:09] <Kealper> lutzee: uhh... my guess is that's your onboard graphics using it
#1073 [14:09] * Kalvin [Kalvin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1074 [14:09] <lutzee> only uses 1gb
#1075 [14:10] <lutzee> one second
#1076 [14:10] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/DxDiag.txt
#1077 [14:10] <lutzee> Display Memory: 1913 MB
#1078 [14:10] <lutzee> Dedicated Memory: 252 MB
#1079 [14:10] <lutzee> Shared Memory: 1661 MB
#1080 [14:10] <Kealper> because mine is a constant 129MB, and i've got my onboard GPU set to use 128MB of ram...
#1081 [14:10] <Matt_> I downloaded the minecraft_server.exe today and i've started my own server, but the problem i am having is i cannot seem to find admin.txt or and other .txt files needed to become admin and be able to use basic commands
#1082 [14:10] <Kalvin> Hi, my 10 year-old son is devastated because he's just lost all of his worlds. I know nothing about th game, but was advised to seek advice here.
#1083 [14:11] <lutzee> ??> Kalvin save/null
#1084 [14:11] <Kealper> Matt_: in the Minecraft server's window, type "op yourusernamehere" where yourusernamehere would be replaced with your Minecraft username
#1085 [14:11] <Matt_> thank you!
#1086 [14:11] <lutzee> ??> Kalvin saves/null
#1087 [14:12] <Matt_> if i need anymore help ill be back :)
#1088 [14:12] <Kalvin> Hi, Lutzee, could you explain a bit more?
#1089 [14:12] <lutzee> one second...
#1090 [14:12] <Kealper> uhh.... is VoxelHead broke? D:
#1091 [14:12] <lutzee> er looks like it
#1092 [14:12] <titegtnodI> Runescape didn't use my GPU until it ran it's "Auto Detect" thing, then it did!
#1093 [14:12] <lutzee> Kalvin, press windows key + r
#1094 [14:12] <Kalvin> We have a Mac
#1095 [14:12] <lutzee> oh right okay
#1096 [14:13] <titegtnodI> Minecraft works with 32bit Java!
#1097 [14:13] <lutzee> Kalvin, give me a second
#1098 [14:13] <Kealper> titegtnodI: that is extremely weird
#1099 [14:13] <Kalvin> No problem.
#1100 [14:13] <titegtnodI> Indeed!
#1101 [14:13] <Kealper> titegtnodI: but i'll keep that in mind if anyone ever has that issue again... SCIENCE.
#1102 [14:13] <lutzee> can you open this in the file manager ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1103 [14:13] <lutzee> er
#1104 [14:14] <lutzee> jar xf ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/
#1105 [14:14] <titegtnodI> Nope didn't work
#1106 [14:14] <lutzee> sorry
#1107 [14:14] <titegtnodI> MSI Afterburner detects it now
#1108 [14:14] * Guest_ [Guest_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1109 [14:14] <titegtnodI> But it doesn't use my GPU
#1110 [14:14] <lutzee> there should be a saves folder in there
#1111 [14:15] <Kalvin> Hi, Lutzee, is that suggestion for me?
#1112 [14:15] <lutzee> yes sorry it is
#1113 [14:15] <Kalvin> OK, thanks, going to try it
#1114 [14:16] <lutzee> btw, can anyone tell me if Mac hide the minecraft install folder?
#1115 [14:16] * lutzee does not own a mac
#1115 [14:18] <titegtnodI> nvm I think it's a Java issue
#1116 [14:18] <titegtnodI> runescape is being derpy
#1117 [14:20] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1118 [14:20] <titegtnodI> Whelp I give up, maybe a Java update will fix it
#1119 [14:21] <lutzee> ?? Kalvin mac/.minecraft
#1120 [14:21] <lutzee> ??> Kalvin mac/.minecraft
#1121 [14:21] <lutzee> ??> Kalvin mac/minecraft
#1122 [14:22] <lutzee> ??> lutzee saves/null
#1123 [14:22] * fox_ [fox_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1124 [14:22] <lutzee> Kealper, still nothing from VoxelHead
#1125 [14:22] <VoxelHead> Kalvin: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1126 [14:22] <lutzee> oh
#1127 [14:22] <Kealper> woh laggy
#1128 [14:22] <lutzee> damn laggy
#1129 [14:22] <Kealper> dope must be having some serious internet issues right now lol
#1130 [14:23] * jktheman12 [jktheman12@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1131 [14:23] <lutzee> well he has the correct answer for getting to the minecraft folder
#1132 [14:24] <fox_> I am concerned about pruchasing on Minecraft.net because the site does not obscure my security code and there is no "S" in the web address.
#1133 [14:24] <lutzee> fox_, minecraft uses moneybookers to process transactions, if you don't feel safe with that you can use paypal instead
#1134 [14:24] * zkxs [zkxs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1135 [14:25] <lutzee> unfortunately, at this moment they ae unable to supply the connection on a secure address,
#1136 [14:25] <lutzee> However i have purchased on the site fine without a problem using my creditcard
#1137 [14:26] <fox_> I tried to use paypal and got a site with what appears to be a Scandinavian language.
#1138 [14:27] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1139 [14:27] <lutzee> Ah right, yes, Mojang, the company behind minecraft is Swedish
#1140 [14:28] <lutzee> You might want to look arround to see if you can change the language on the site
#1141 [14:28] <Calinou> huh?
#1142 [14:28] <fox_> Tried - there is no place that offers a language change.
#1143 [14:29] <Calinou> fox_, where do you want to change language? anyway, lrn2english
#1144 [14:29] <Calinou> (that's rude - but why would you want to change language?)
#1145 [14:29] <lutzee> Calinou, paypal is going to a swedish website
#1146 [14:29] <Calinou> why? I smell some fake paypal website, redirected using an ad > scam
#1147 [14:29] <lutzee> Calinou, linking from minecraft.net ..........
#1148 [14:30] <Kealper> yeah, that doesn't sound right to me either
#1149 [14:30] <fox_> Sorry - but it is strange that a foreign language site comes up when I attempt to use paypal. I cannot read the information on the site that comes up.
#1150 [14:30] <Kealper> fox_: can you go to the page you get when you try Paypal and copy the URL and then paste it in here?
#1151 [14:31] <fox_> Yes
#1152 [14:31] <Calinou> lutzee, ads can redirect to some other website
#1153 [14:31] <Calinou> fox_, what is the URL of that site? also, try to press F5 when you are going on paypal
#1154 [14:31] <Kalvin> Thanks Lutzee and Voxel - working on it now.
#1155 [14:31] <Calinou> this will stop loading
#1156 [14:31] <fox_> 50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081981856b91947e5c600b2b0863f9534cbec
#1157 [14:31] <Kealper> Calinou: one step ahead of you :P
#1158 [14:31] <Calinou> oh and also you might install some adblock extension for your browser
#1159 [14:31] <Calinou> fox_, WTF is this
#1160 [14:31] <lutzee> Kalvin, VoxelHead is a bot hehe
#1161 [14:31] <fox_> No idea!
#1162 [14:31] <Calinou> this isn't an URL
#1163 [14:31] <Kealper> fox_: uhh... that doesn't look like all of it, right click it and select "Select All" in the address bar
#1164 [14:31] <Calinou> an URL is like: http://google.com
#1165 [14:31] <fox_> Okay.
#1166 [14:32] <fox_> I know that
#1167 [14:32] * |Kiikun| [|Kiikun|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1168 [14:32] <lutzee> https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081981856b91947e5c600b2b0863f9534cbec&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk#q=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081981856b91947e5c600b2b0863f9534cbec&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Nn0&channel=fs&gl=uk&prmd=imvns&filter=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=e
#1169 [14:32] <lutzee> bb23e2358a29d33&biw=1680&bih=962
#1170 [14:32] <fox_> 50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081981856b91947e5c600b2b0863f9534cbec Did it again -_-
#1171 [14:32] <lutzee> gah
#1172 [14:32] <lutzee> wow
#1173 [14:32] <Kealper> that's
#1174 [14:32] <Kealper> not right.....
#1175 [14:32] <lutzee> Donate Any Amount - PayPal https://www.paypal.com/.../webscr?... Check Out - PayPal https://www.paypal.com/.../webscr?... Donate Any Amount - PayPal
#1176 [14:32] <lutzee> thats what google is giving
#1177 [14:33] * Kealper goes to investigate
#1177 [14:33] <Calinou> "client=ubuntu" lol, noobuntu
#1178 [14:33] <lutzee> Calinou, hush its was appropriate at the time, i wanted something easy as a secondry PC
#1179 [14:34] <Kalvin> I feel stupid, but I'm in Finder in my Mac, but how do I get to the Go menu?
#1180 [14:34] * Smarag [Smarag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1181 [14:34] <Kealper> fox_: are you clicking to "buy a gift code" or to "buy Minecraft" on the purchase page, just curious...
#1182 [14:34] <fox_> I'm attempting to buy it for myself.
#1183 [14:35] <lutzee> paypal doesn't appear on the giftcode page
#1184 [14:36] <Kealper> hmm...
#1185 [14:37] <lutzee> fox_, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/463704-payment-is-not-using-https
#1186 [14:37] <Kealper> fox_: ok, does the page you click to buy it on say only "http://www.minecraft.net/store"? (http:// might not be in there, some browsers hide that part)
#1187 [14:37] <lutzee> fox_, any data you input will be encrypted before it is sent anywhere
#1188 [14:38] <fox_> You're sure?
#1189 [14:38] <lutzee> Yes, it uses an SSL encryption,
#1190 [14:38] <fox_> See, the card I'm using is with permission from my grandmother, and we've both had issues with identity theft before.
#1191 [14:39] <fox_> So seeing our information not starred out or visibly secured is unnerving.
#1192 [14:39] * MythicCanadian [MythicCanadian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1193 [14:39] <MythicCanadian> Hello?
#1194 [14:39] <lutzee> hell MythicCanadian
#1195 [14:40] <ac3xx> fox_, make sure it starts with https://
#1196 [14:40] <Kealper> such a pesky "o"
#1197 [14:40] <MythicCanadian> I need some help, and I couldn't find any articles that would help me.
#1198 [14:40] <lutzee> ac3xx, minecraft.net does not support https://
#1199 [14:40] <Kealper> but i've got to run, so i'm out of here now :o
#1200 [14:40] <ac3xx> lutzee o.O
#1201 [14:40] <ac3xx> wow that's just terrible
#1202 [14:40] <lutzee> ac3xx, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/463704-payment-is-not-using-https
#1203 [14:40] <ac3xx> meh
#1204 [14:41] <ac3xx> there's still some plaintext data transmission from client->mojang thoug
#1205 [14:41] <ac3xx> though*
#1206 [14:41] <MythicCanadian> Everytime I join a server, any server, I can communicate with it for about 3 secconds. Then it stops responding and kicks me for java.net.socketexception. Anyone know what's wrong?
#1207 [14:41] <fox_> That link was correct, but it also had /game on the end.
#1208 [14:42] <lutzee> MythicCanadian, you are signed into minecraft?
#1209 [14:42] <MythicCanadian> Yes, I can connect to minecraft.net fine
#1210 [14:42] <MythicCanadian> It's only after being on the server for a few seconds that it stops responding.
#1211 [14:43] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, tried any other server? try this one: s.nerd.nu
#1212 [14:43] <Calinou> (.nu, not .ru)
#1213 [14:43] <MythicCanadian> I have tried a few servers, all with the same results. I will try s.nerd.nu though. One second.
#1214 [14:44] <MythicCanadian> I'm banned from the server "Import from MCbans". But I have already tried it on multiple servers and I have the same issue.
#1215 [14:45] <Calinou> lol... why?
#1216 [14:45] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, are you globally banned on mcbans, or what?
#1217 [14:45] <lutzee> you have been banned on a server and they have imported the ban from a global list, every server you have tried has probably done this
#1218 [14:45] <Calinou> if so you have to play on servers without mcbans
#1219 [14:46] <lutzee> try mc2.mcnode.com:25566
#1220 [14:46] <MythicCanadian> Nope, I have no bans on MCbans. And I have never been on s.nerd.nu.
#1221 [14:46] * cfdpipeman [cfdpipeman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1222 [14:46] <MythicCanadian> The ban isn't my concern though. Ill try mc2.mcnode.com:25566 one second
#1223 [14:47] <MythicCanadian> I only managed to say "Test" before I was disconnected.
#1224 [14:47] <MythicCanadian> So it's not the servers...
#1225 [14:48] <lutzee> AuBot, bout to get to that ;)
#1226 [14:48] <MythicCanadian> I have tried with fire wall on and off. and with antivirus on and off.
#1227 [14:48] <lutzee> try disabling your fireall
#1228 [14:48] <lutzee> hmm okay
#1229 [14:48] <lutzee> what is your quoted internet speed?
#1230 [14:48] <MythicCanadian> I have also tried redownloading java and getting a fresh MC
#1231 [14:49] <Calinou> AuBot, lol... how can a bot have minecraft-related issues
#1232 [14:49] <Calinou> lutzee, quoted?
#1233 [14:49] <lutzee> Calinou, you know what your isp says your internet speed is...
#1234 [14:49] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, try to use java 6 instead - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1235 [14:50] <MythicCanadian> I don't know what my quoted internet speed is, but I'm with rogers and all other internet applications are working fast and fine
#1236 [14:50] <Calinou> uninstall your currently installed version of java.
#1237 [14:50] <MythicCanadian> Alright, Ill try java 6
#1238 [14:50] <Calinou> lutzee, irrelevant; better use speedtest
#1239 [14:50] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, Windows x86 Offline = 32 bit windows, Windows x64 = 64 bit windows
#1240 [14:51] <Calinou> 2.4/0.4 mbits < my connection. it's crap :<
#1241 [14:51] <Calinou> "send me a video and get slapped" ~Calinou
#1242 [14:51] <MythicCanadian> Ill try Java 6, be back in a second
#1243 [14:52] * Boreeas streams some HD videos to Calinou
#1243 [14:52] * Calinou slaps Boreeas around a bit using a large shotgun
#1243 [14:53] <lutzee> fox_, the only other option i can suggest is finding someone who doesn't mind that the fact that their data may not be sent completely securely
#1244 [14:57] <fox_> We've tried that too.
#1245 [14:57] <MythicCanadian> *RAGE*
#1246 [14:57] <Calinou> *DEUS EX HUMAN REVOLUTION*
#1247 [14:57] <fox_> *sigh* Failure all around, I guess.
#1248 [14:58] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, you said the name of a game released in 2011, I did too :P
#1249 [14:58] <MythicCanadian> I got java 6 and the problem is still not fixed
#1250 [14:58] <lutzee> fox_, not much we can do here unfortunately, as we are not affiliated with minecraft, but volenteers who try to help people out
#1251 [14:58] <MythicCanadian> Aha
#1252 [14:58] <fox_> Ah.
#1253 [14:58] <fox_> Thanks, I guess.
#1254 [14:59] <fox_> I'll go now, then. Not much point staying here.
#1255 [14:59] <MythicCanadian> I really have no clue what my problem is :/ I have tried everything I can think of...
#1256 [14:59] <MythicCanadian> You guys have any other ideas?
#1257 [15:00] <MythicCanadian> anyone?
#1258 [15:01] * Minecraftproblems [Minecraftproblems@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1259 [15:02] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, nah not really - it is quite a weird issue, yes.
#1260 [15:02] <Calinou> Minecraftproblems, hi... nice name :P
#1261 [15:02] <Minecraftproblems> My minecraft is having some issues
#1262 [15:02] <lutzee> only other thing could be the port is being blocked
#1263 [15:02] <lutzee> Minecraftproblems, elaborate/
#1264 [15:03] <Minecraftproblems> Whenever I destory a block it dosn't drop anything and whenever I backout and reload it, I start back at spawn
#1265 [15:03] <lutzee> Minecraftproblems, are you in creative mode?
#1266 [15:03] <Minecraftproblems> No
#1267 [15:03] <Minecraftproblems> Survival
#1268 [15:03] <Minecraftproblems> I just updated to snapwhot 24
#1269 [15:04] <Minecraftproblems> snapshot*
#1270 [15:04] <MythicCanadian> lutzee, do you know which ports I should have open? I could check.
#1271 [15:04] <lutzee> hmm as snapshots are development releases, there will be no support for them, re: topic: We do not support pre-releases.
#1272 [15:04] <Calinou> MythicCanadian, you do not have to open ports if you do not create a public server
#1273 [15:04] <Minecraftproblems> Ok thanks for the help anyway
#1274 [15:05] <Calinou> Minecraftproblems, snapshots are not official, stable updates
#1275 [15:05] <Calinou> these work fine usually but these can be quite unstable
#1276 [15:05] <lutzee> but portblocking could be a problem
#1277 [15:05] * flitch [flitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1278 [15:05] <MythicCanadian> How do you mean?
#1279 [15:08] <MythicCanadian> It's just such a weird problem. Because I can connect fine to the server for the first 5 seconds completly fine, I can talk and replace blocks and do everything. Then It just stops responding and kicks me. :/
#1280 [15:08] <MythicCanadian> Well, thank you guys so much for your help
#1281 [15:08] <MythicCanadian> I really appreciate it. :)
#1282 [15:09] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1283 [15:12] * Dulayne [Dulayne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1284 [15:13] * Dulayne [Dulayne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1285 [15:14] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1286 [15:19] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1287 [15:19] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1288 [15:24] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1289 [15:30] * cfdpipeman [cfdpipeman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1290 [15:34] * IslandIcedZ [IslandIcedZ@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1291 [15:34] <IslandIcedZ> Hi
#1292 [15:34] <Grim_Reaper> Hello there
#1293 [15:35] <IslandIcedZ> Will there ever be a way to change your MC Nickname ?
#1294 [15:35] * Spirited [Spirited@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1295 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Sadly no not as of yet IslandIcedZ. I dont think there are any plans either
#1296 [15:35] <Spirited> i guess it makes more sense to be here
#1297 [15:35] <Spirited> tthan clog up the other one
#1298 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1299 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> As it is now, you cannot change your mc nickname
#1300 [15:36] <IslandIcedZ> :<
#1301 [15:36] * SgtTraveler [SgtTraveler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1302 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry =\
#1303 [15:36] <IslandIcedZ> I hav another queestion
#1304 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Ask away ^^
#1305 [15:36] <IslandIcedZ> Why are nicknames like FaftFlash blocked ?
#1306 [15:36] <lutzee> IslandIcedZ, reasoning behind it is that if you are banned on a server bans are dealt with mainly by username
#1307 [15:37] <IslandIcedZ> FastFlashPL *
#1308 [15:37] <lutzee> IslandIcedZ, what do you mean?
#1309 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> IslandIcedZ not too sure about it.
#1310 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> Never encounted somebody saying a nickname was blocked
#1311 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> Though I would assume it's reserved perhaps
#1312 [15:38] <IslandIcedZ> I mean that you can't have it as your nickname
#1313 [15:38] <Boreeas> [21:38:33] nickserv FastFlashPL is not registered.
#1314 [15:38] <Calinou> <lutzee> IslandIcedZ, reasoning behind it is that if you are banned on a server bans are dealt with mainly by username
#1315 [15:39] <FastFlashPL> Where's the problem?
#1316 [15:39] <Calinou> easy fix: "login name" and "display name"
#1317 [15:39] * Calinou buys mojang a brain.
#1317 [15:39] <IslandIcedZ> I mean on minecraft.net
#1318 [15:39] <FastFlashPL> Calinou: They plan on doing that
#1319 [15:39] <Calinou> unlikely
#1320 [15:39] <Calinou> "you're named sinep5002? too bad"
#1321 [15:39] <Boreeas> IIRC they specifically mentioned that
#1322 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Only thing I know of is that Mojang MIGHT, add the ability to set nicknames
#1323 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> But you cant change your username as far as I know
#1324 [15:39] <Boreeas> ^
#1325 [15:39] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1326 [15:41] <Spirited> Grim_Reaper: Java 6u33 installed...will now proceed to run minecraft
#1327 [15:41] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#1328 [15:41] <Grim_Reaper> goodluck
#1329 [15:42] <IslandIcedZ> WHy does it say " Name not available " ?
#1330 [15:42] <Calinou> I read "goodfuck" [inb4 kick]
#1331 [15:42] * AuBot kicked Calinou from #minecrafthelp (Reason: alinou :Please keep it civil.)
#1332 [15:42] <IslandIcedZ> Thats what I ment from the start
#1333 [15:42] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1334 [15:42] <Calinou> lol, first time I've been kicked from here! :D
#1335 [15:42] <Grim_Reaper> lol Calinou
#1336 [15:42] <Calinou> IslandIcedZ, choose a different username.
#1337 [15:42] <Calinou> Spirited_Away, away nicks kill
#1338 [15:42] <Boreeas> !paid FastFlashPL
#1339 [15:42] <Spirited_Away> hopefully you understand the reference
#1340 [15:42] <IslandIcedZ> I have :)
#1341 [15:43] <IslandIcedZ> And FastFlashPL is an another acc I want to make because I don't like my nickname right now ...
#1342 [15:43] <lutzee> The nickname is probably registered but not paid for
#1343 [15:43] <Boreeas> I guess it's taken already
#1344 [15:45] <IslandIcedZ> This question is from my cousin not me, he is asking why cant you have a nicknames like dragonin or dragonni ?
#1345 [15:46] * dragonnin [dragonnin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1346 [15:47] <dragonnin> [ Hi, why does it say " Nickname not available " when I put in these nicknames " dragonni or dragonin "
#1347 [15:47] <Boreeas> IslandIcedZ: Probably also taken
#1348 [15:47] <Calinou> hi dragonnin... also taken
#1349 [15:47] <Boreeas> dragonnin: Probably also taken
#1350 [15:47] <lutzee> The nicknames are allready registered
#1351 [15:47] <Calinou> it's pretty unoriginal, you should use a more original nickname :P
#1352 [15:48] <Calinou> also: no spaces. A-Z a-z 0-9 and underscores are accepted.
#1353 [15:48] <Calinou> character limit is 15 IIRC
#1354 [15:48] <IslandIcedZ> what are underscores ?
#1355 [15:48] <Boreeas> [A-Za-z0-9_]{1,15}
#1356 [15:48] <lutzee> _
#1357 [15:48] <lutzee> ^underscore
#1358 [15:48] <IslandIcedZ> oh right
#1359 [15:49] <lutzee> also using less common characters might help, especially with q not followed by u :p
#1360 [15:49] <Calinou> Boreeas, why do you put {1,15} like tihs? do you have access to mojang's code? :P
#1361 [15:49] <Calinou> Q_Q > lol.
#1362 [15:49] <IslandIcedZ> What is the minimum amount of characters ?
#1363 [15:50] <lutzee> but those will be taken allready
#1364 [15:50] <lutzee> chances are all 1-3 character names are gone
#1365 [15:50] <IslandIcedZ> Okai, thanks :)
#1366 [15:50] <Boreeas> Calinou: Nah. That's simple regex.
#1367 [15:50] <Boreeas> In other words, that's what I would write if I had to match the usernames
#1368 [15:53] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1369 [15:54] <IslandIcedZ> How do I check if a username is taken ?
#1370 [15:55] <lutzee> keep trying to input some till you are able to register with one
#1371 [15:55] <IslandIcedZ> Okai
#1372 [15:55] <lutzee> also, don't use the same email as you did before, this may cause conflicts if you ever want/need to move to a mojang account
#1373 [15:57] <IslandIcedZ> what about if I only out the password and the nickname ?
#1374 [15:57] <IslandIcedZ> put *
#1375 [15:57] <IslandIcedZ> Because I put in my nickname and it doesn't say that it's not available but I didn't put e-mail in.
#1376 [16:03] * Wejq_ [Wejq_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1377 [16:09] * IslandIcedZ [IslandIcedZ@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1378 [16:09] <IslandIcedZ> Hello again :)
#1379 [16:09] <IslandIcedZ> Is anyone here ?
#1380 [16:10] <Calinou> hi
#1381 [16:10] <IslandIcedZ> :)
#1382 [16:10] <IslandIcedZ> I have one more question
#1383 [16:10] <Calinou> what question?
#1384 [16:11] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1385 [16:11] <IslandIcedZ> My cousin is asking if you could buy a Mastercard giftcode at a petrol station, can you redeem that kind of code on the minecraft gift-code thing ?
#1386 [16:12] * dragonnin [dragonnin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1387 [16:14] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1388 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Doubtful
#1389 [16:16] <IslandIcedZ> Why is it doutful ?
#1390 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> First off, understand that Mojang is a company based in Sweden. Most purchases are international transactions. With prepaid cards, they typically have some sort of anti-fraud measure in place, which blocks international transactions for the protection of the consumer. We've seen this quite a few times around here.
#1391 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> To get a concrete answer, you'll need to contact the card or bank's customer service, and ask if it can be used via moneybookers or paypal
#1392 [16:19] <IslandIcedZ> Ok, thanks.
#1393 [16:23] * draugr [draugr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1394 [16:29] * Andrew_ [Andrew_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1395 [16:47] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1396 [17:01] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1397 [17:07] * x [x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1398 [17:18] * Lardman [Lardman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1399 [17:39] * cfdpipeman [cfdpipeman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1400 [17:59] * su [su@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1401 [18:07] * XxMinecraftTribexX [XxMinecraftTribexX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1402 [18:08] <XxMinecraftTribexX> hi everyone! I just posted some info for my Adventure/City-Building map! I would like some feedback in order to help me with the map!
#1403 [18:08] <XxMinecraftTribexX> https://yogscast.com/showthread.php?68508-Hello-everyone!-This-is-my-First-Adventure-map-City-Building-map!&p=700994#post700994
#1404 [18:09] <Lardman> XxMinecraftTribexX you may have more luck in #minecraft or #mcchatter
#1405 [18:09] <Lardman> This is more for support.
#1406 [18:09] <XxMinecraftTribexX> oh thx
#1407 [18:09] <XxMinecraftTribexX> im BANNED on BOTH of those!
#1408 [18:10] <XxMinecraftTribexX> it SAYS so
#1409 [18:10] <XxMinecraftTribexX> >:C
#1410 [18:10] <Lardman> Did you do the same in both of those?
#1411 [18:10] <Lardman> because that is considered a form of advertising
#1412 [18:11] <XxMinecraftTribexX> :C
#1413 [18:11] <XxMinecraftTribexX> no this is the FIRST time i tried TO GO THERE
#1414 [18:11] <XxMinecraftTribexX> IM DEAD SURIOUS
#1415 [18:11] <XxMinecraftTribexX> SERIOUS*
#1416 [18:11] <Lardman> Well then you will have to talk to one of the ops from those channels and ask why you have been banned
#1417 [18:12] * xales [xales@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1418 [18:12] * Tminus [Tminus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1419 [18:12] <Lardman> XxMinecraftTribexX have you registered your nick?
#1420 [18:12] <XxMinecraftTribexX> nope
#1421 [18:13] <Lardman> you need to do so
#1422 [18:13] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i dont KNOW how!
#1423 [18:13] <Lardman> it is /msg NickServ Register
#1424 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#1425 [18:13] <Lardman> also, I would not psot that in those channels as it is advertising
#1426 [18:13] <Lardman> post*
#1427 [18:13] <XxMinecraftTribexX> :C
#1428 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Also, the reason why you can't join those channels, is because you're using a web-based client
#1429 [18:13] <XxMinecraftTribexX> THEN FREAKING WHERE?!
#1430 [18:13] <XxMinecraftTribexX> >:C
#1431 [18:14] <Lardman> Download a client
#1432 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> They've specifically banned webchat from those channels
#1433 [18:14] <Lardman> such as icechat or xchat
#1434 [18:14] <XxMinecraftTribexX> I CANT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON MY GRANDMOMS COMPUTER!
#1435 [18:14] <XxMinecraftTribexX> DUH!
#1436 [18:14] <Lardman> Well then you will not be able to go to those channels.
#1437 [18:14] <XxMinecraftTribexX> ugh...
#1438 [18:14] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i freaking hate everyone....
#1439 [18:15] <Lardman> Why?
#1440 [18:15] <XxMinecraftTribexX> NO ONE wants to give me FREAKING support! IM BANNED ON BOTH THINGS! I CANT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING ON MY GRANDMOMS COMPUTER! EVERYTHING!
#1441 [18:16] <XxMinecraftTribexX> I HATE EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
#1442 [18:16] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1442 [18:16] <Lardman> We gave you support. You cannot join because you do not have a client. That is no reason to hate everyone.
#1443 [18:16] <XxMinecraftTribexX> >:C
#1444 [18:17] <XxMinecraftTribexX> NAME ONE THING ON LIFE THAT IT WASNT A DICK TO YOU!
#1445 [18:17] <Devin> XxMinecraftTribexX, do you have a portable drive or anything? There's portableapps for IRC.
#1446 [18:17] <XxMinecraftTribexX> nope! BOTH are on my XBOX!
#1447 [18:17] <XxMinecraftTribexX> AND wont WORK on my grandmoms computer!
#1448 [18:18] <Devin> No need to capitalize whole words in the middle, we understand.
#1449 [18:18] <XxMinecraftTribexX> fine...
#1450 [18:18] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i just hate everyone
#1451 [18:18] <Devin> Why don't you post them to the forums?
#1452 [18:18] <Lardman> XxMinecraftTribexX do not look at life in a negative view. There are many things that have gone right, but you are looking at the wrong side.
#1453 [18:19] <Devin> Instead of posting to yogscast forums, post on minecraftforums! :D
#1454 [18:19] <Lardman> As Devin said, you can post them in te mapping and modding section of the forums.
#1455 [18:19] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i tried that BOOM! they told me NOT here
#1456 [18:19] <Lardman> Where did you post it?
#1457 [18:20] <XxMinecraftTribexX> im not sure. i deleted that post a long time ago on my old account
#1458 [18:20] <Lardman> This is where it should be posted
#1459 [18:20] <Lardman> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/53-maps/
#1460 [18:20] <XxMinecraftTribexX> thx
#1461 [18:21] <Lardman> You are welcome.
#1462 [18:22] * Lardman lets a sigh of relief loose
#1462 [18:23] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1463 [18:26] * shadowofnoone [shadowofnoone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1464 [18:26] <shadowofnoone> Hello
#1465 [18:26] <shadowofnoone> Is DiskDaemon here?
#1466 [18:29] <Lardman> He is AFK I think, but what do you need?
#1467 [18:31] * XxMinecraftTribexX [XxMinecraftTribexX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1468 [18:31] <XxMinecraftTribexX> hi again
#1469 [18:31] <XxMinecraftTribexX> um... i got 2 questions
#1470 [18:32] <XxMinecraftTribexX> 1. how do i make a adventure map and 2. what do i need to make one?
#1471 [18:32] <Lardman> I thought you had already made one
#1472 [18:33] <XxMinecraftTribexX> no. its NOT done yet. im making it
#1473 [18:33] <XxMinecraftTribexX> right nwo
#1474 [18:33] <Lardman> You need minecraft, time, and patience
#1475 [18:33] <XxMinecraftTribexX> now*
#1476 [18:33] <Lardman> also, mc edit does not hurt
#1477 [18:33] <XxMinecraftTribexX> really?
#1478 [18:34] <XxMinecraftTribexX> tell me... do adventure maps need rules?
#1479 [18:34] <Lardman> They generally have rules.
#1480 [18:34] <XxMinecraftTribexX> thanks!
#1481 [18:34] <Lardman> You should decide what is in it.
#1482 [18:37] * vanessa [vanessa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1483 [18:52] * andrewxios1 [andrewxios1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1484 [18:56] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1485 [19:41] * mickster04 [mickster04@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1486 [20:01] * meitzo_ [meitzo_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1487 [20:08] * andrewkm|laptop [andrewkm|laptop@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1488 [20:08] * DarkNoddy [DarkNoddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1489 [20:10] * Aconitin [Aconitin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1490 [20:10] * Aconitin [Aconitin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1491 [20:10] * Aconitin [Aconitin@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1492 [20:24] * gerzel_ [gerzel_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1493 [20:27] * ronjn [ronjn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1494 [20:28] * lagspike [lagspike@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1495 [20:28] <lagspike> does anyone know how to fix the lag spike graph that keeps going over my coordinates when I press f3?
#1496 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> Commonly it spikes due to the computer doing other things that are not related to minecraft
#1497 [20:31] <lagspike> i closed every other window though
#1498 [20:31] <lagspike> it went down when i was standing still and looking up into the sky but then when i started moving it spiked like crazy again
#1499 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> It's not just windows, there are services and all sorts of background activities going on too
#1500 [20:31] <lagspike> services?
#1501 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> "Services" is a fancy computing term for background processes
#1502 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> If you have a slow hard drive, that can also help it to spike, while it's trying to get the information that it needs
#1503 [20:33] <lagspike> yeah, its not the fastest, that's for sure
#1504 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> There is no magic bullet to solve lag spikes, due to the wide variety of possible causes for them
#1505 [20:34] <lagspike> how would i temporarily close these background processes?
#1506 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> It's not wise to do so unless you know what you're doing and what the repercussions of that are.
#1507 [20:34] <Devin> Game Booster does some of them.
#1508 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> This is not the place for such learning though. A server management course though, that would be a good place to learn of such things.
#1509 [20:35] <lagspike> ah, okay. well thx for your help
#1510 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> I would remove obvious causes for delay first, such as the hard drive. Use an SSD drive instead so that latency is no longer your problem
#1511 [20:36] <Devin> Damn I want an SSD. :|
#1512 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> you might also be able to achieve a minor improvement my defragging your hard drive so that the data can be retrieved a little bit more quickly
#1513 [20:37] <lagspike> yeah, i don't have one either
#1514 [20:37] <lagspike> alright, ill try that
#1515 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> But really, to deal with lag spikes, you need to discover what's causing the problem in the first place
#1516 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Otherwise you'll end up putting all of your efforts in to areas that won't achieve much at all
#1517 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Most of the time it's ram.
#1518 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Anything around 4 is good enough to run a server, and a fair amount of applications.
#1519 [20:39] <lagspike> yeah i have 4
#1520 [20:39] <Lardman> Make sure that you do not have random programs up. Like ie, spotify, or steam etc.
#1521 [20:39] <Lardman> that can slow you down.
#1522 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> More ram can help to reduce the amount of paging that the system does out to the hard drive, for which a faster hard drive or more memory would also help to solve that
#1523 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Internet speed might also be a problem. You could have small bandwidth.
#1524 [20:39] <Lardman> speedtest.net
#1525 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#1526 [20:40] <Lardman> post report here.
#1527 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> lagspike: When the lag spikes occur, does the pie chart change in any major way so that a part of it is changing size more rapidly in that period?
#1528 [20:41] <CrusaderDeleters> f3, btw.
#1529 [20:41] <lagspike> i know, and the lag spikes are through the roof
#1530 [20:42] <lagspike> literally
#1531 [20:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Does any of that pie chart change? If so, which?
#1532 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> You were saying before about looking up at the sky, and then things lag when you look at and move around in the world. What parts of that pie chart increase there
#1533 [20:42] <lagspike> oh the pie chart
#1534 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> That will help to narrow down whether the lag is from in-game or outside of the game
#1535 [20:43] <lagspike> looks to be the purple
#1536 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> What's its label?
#1537 [20:44] <lagspike> oh srry
#1538 [20:44] <lagspike> tick
#1539 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> That seems to imply that it's having to wait for other things outside of the system to occur
#1540 [20:46] <Lardman> Disk, if this is a snapshot he is using, do yo think it is possible that a slow internet connection could be the issue.
#1541 [20:46] <Lardman> Since the game is in constant contact with the minecraft server.
#1542 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> lagspike: Is it a snapshot that you're using?
#1543 [20:46] <lagspike> snapeshot?
#1544 [20:47] <lagspike> snapshot*?
#1545 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> lagspike: You are using version 1.2.5?
#1546 [20:47] <lagspike> i should be, yes
#1547 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Then it's not a snapshot release of the upcoming 1.3 version
#1548 [20:48] <Lardman> I would try optifine and see if that helps at all.
#1549 [20:48] <lagspike> optifine? what does that do
#1550 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> It rewrites some of the graphics code to help improve its performance
#1551 [20:49] <lagspike> ah, okay
#1552 [20:50] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1553 [20:52] * Mikov [Mikov@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1554 [20:52] <Mikov> hi I was wondering how I can purchase Minecraft if I am from Illinois?
#1555 [20:53] <Lardman> Paypal is the only way.
#1556 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> Moneybookers who handle credit card payments are still negotiating over that
#1557 [20:53] <Lardman> MoneyBookers does not have a license in Illinois.
#1558 [20:53] <Mikov> So I just need to set up a paypal account/]?
#1559 [20:53] <Lardman> yes
#1560 [20:53] <Lardman> Are you trying to purchase a giftcode.
#1561 [20:53] <Lardman> ?
#1562 [20:53] <Mikov> Yes sir
#1563 [20:54] <Lardman> Then there is no way for you to purchase in Illinois.
#1564 [20:54] <Lardman> :(
#1565 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> You can purchase a Minecraft account for yourself though using paypal.
#1566 [20:54] <Lardman> ^
#1567 [20:54] <Mikov> oh ok
#1568 [20:55] <Mikov> so i can just have the friend use my paypal to purchase it for themselves?
#1569 [20:55] <Lardman> Yea
#1570 [20:56] <Mikov> ok, thanks for the help ladies and gents!
#1571 [20:56] <Mikov> cheers!
#1572 [20:56] <Lardman> You are welcome! :D
#1573 [20:56] <Lardman> Cya!
#1574 [20:56] <Mikov> take care!
#1575 [21:05] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1576 [21:13] * Allison [Allison@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1577 [21:14] * Nibato [Nibato@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1578 [21:22] * MCMAUser_926 [MCMAUser_926@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1579 [21:22] <MCMAUser_926> hi!
#1580 [21:22] <Lardman> Hi! :D
#1581 [21:22] <MCMAUser_926> i need help
#1582 [21:22] <Lardman> With?
#1583 [21:23] <MCMAUser_926> i put my computer into a toaster
#1584 [21:24] <Lardman> >_>
#1585 [21:24] * IanRules [IanRules@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1586 [21:24] * Captain_Kittiez [Captain_Kittiez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1587 [21:24] <MCMAUser_926> how do i get it out?
#1588 [21:24] <IanRules> Where do i go to the bathroom?
#1589 [21:24] <MCMAUser_926> the toilet
#1590 [21:25] <IanRules> no your mouth
#1591 [21:25] <IanRules> no your mouth
#1592 [21:25] * Captain_Kittiez [Captain_Kittiez@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1593 [21:33] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1594 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1595 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdlfkj;asd;flasdf;lkadsf;asdflkasdf;lkhdsafljkasf;lkjasf;lkjaf;lkasdfl;kja;lkjaf;lkjasf;lkjasf;lkasfadsfadsfadfasdf
#1596 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1597 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1598 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> MCMAUser_926: Help with what?
#1599 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1600 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1601 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1602 [21:34] <MCMAUser_926> asdf
#1603 [21:35] * MCMAUser_926 [MCMAUser_926@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1604 [21:38] <Lardman> He is spamming
#1605 [21:38] <Lardman> btw
#1606 [21:38] <TheNytangel> He uses McMyAdmin
#1607 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> was - he's gone now
#1608 [21:38] <Lardman> yea
#1609 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> I really wanted to put the justifiable boot in, but have no voice let alone ops here.
#1610 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Next time somebody does that, feel free to highlight an op
#1611 [21:41] <Devin> GreyBot, I'll highlight you. ;3
#1612 [21:41] <Devin> wtf
#1613 [21:41] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: my computer isn't working
#1614 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Greybot won't do much
#1615 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, what did you do?
#1616 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> Will do - it can be difficult to tell who's awake or not at times
#1617 [21:41] <Devin> I mean grey vulpine, but didn't wanna highlight at the time. x3
#1618 [21:42] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: it's my first one that I had.. not either of the new ones
#1619 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Devin - If it's a legitimate reason, I'll gladly respond.
#1620 [21:42] <Devin> okay. c:
#1621 [21:42] <TheNytangel> But.. it gets past everything and it loads the OS and it starts up, but.... just a black screen
#1622 [21:42] <TheNytangel> Nothing
#1623 [21:44] <TheNytangel> Once it loads the operating system it goes poof
#1624 [21:48] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: fix it >:(
#1625 [21:53] <TheNytangel> Wug: fix it >:(
#1626 [21:53] * Omega_Guardian [Omega_Guardian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1627 [21:56] * HelpME [HelpME@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1628 [21:57] <HelpME> Hello When i try and buy premium for my minecraft account It never lets me do so? Why is that
#1629 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Have you signed up to moneybookers with an account?
#1630 [21:59] <HelpME> No i was using a debit card
#1631 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> Credit card payments (de3bit card included) are processed by Mojang through moneybookers
#1632 [22:00] <HelpME> So i would have to make a account then it would work?
#1633 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> This might help - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/823227-guide-buy-minecraft-with-visa-gift-card/
#1634 [22:01] <HelpME> Thanks Ill try that
#1635 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Is your debit card a visa one?
#1636 [22:04] <HelpME> Yea
#1637 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Go ahead then
#1638 [22:11] <HelpME> It was declined?
#1639 [22:11] <HelpME> And now it says i cant use the card for the next 24 hours?
#1640 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> You will need to contact moneybookers to learn why
#1641 [22:12] <HelpME> ok
#1642 [22:13] <Lardman> It was probably flagged by moneybookers
#1643 [22:13] <Lardman> What is the exact card?
#1644 [22:15] <HelpME> Its a greendot Gold Visa Debit card
#1645 [22:19] <Lardman> I don't think that green dot is an accepted form of payment
#1646 [22:20] <mickster04> i just paid with credit card? paypal i thought? have things changed a bit?
#1647 [22:20] * andrewxios [andrewxios@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1648 [22:20] <Lardman> What Mickster04?
#1649 [22:21] <mickster04> well i bought it when it was still in beta
#1650 [22:21] <mickster04> so i got it for cheaper anyway
#1651 [22:21] <mickster04> so it is probable that the payment system has changed
#1652 [22:21] <Devin> mickster04, if you use a credit card and NOT paypal, it leads you to the moneybookers website
#1653 [22:21] <Devin> Which is where he is having problems. :|
#1654 [22:22] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1655 [22:22] <mickster04> ah ok
#1656 [22:23] <mickster04> ]i have a paypal account since before minecraft so i used that :p
#1657 [22:28] <HelpME> I have a paypal account but the same thing happens
#1658 [22:28] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1659 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> HelpME: Contacting moneybookers is the best way to find out what the issue is with your card
#1660 [22:34] <HelpME> ok Do they have a phone number?
#1661 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> You can contact them via their website
#1662 [22:34] <HelpME> Ok thanks
#1663 [22:35] <Gunslinger2> ....lego minecraft is $35?...expensive toys for kids these days jeez
#1664 [22:37] <HelpME> There phone number Wont work?
#1665 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> Which phone number are you using?
#1666 [22:39] <HelpME> Well the customer Service
#1667 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> Which country are you calling?
#1668 [22:40] <HelpME> Usa
#1669 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> This number here? 509 271 5556
#1670 [22:40] <HelpME> ill try that one
#1671 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> No, wait
#1672 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> What number were you calling?
#1673 [22:41] <HelpME> 44 207 023 9210
#1674 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's the England phone number
#1675 [22:41] <HelpME> Wow :\
#1676 [22:42] <HelpME> The one u just told me about doesnt work
#1677 [22:42] <HelpME> Its just Loud beeping nosies.
#1678 [22:43] <Wug> TheNytangel: plug in more monitors
#1679 [22:43] <HelpME> ?
#1680 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> That's a fax line that I mentioned before. I did not tell you to use that.
#1681 [22:43] <Wug> I had a retarded one once that would sometimes fail to recognize that a monitor had been unplugged even between boots
#1682 [22:43] <HelpME> Oh Disk then whats the Numer?
#1683 [22:43] <HelpME> Number?
#1684 [22:43] <Wug> TheNytangel: does it pass the caps lock test
#1685 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> HelpME: I suggest that you use the email support that they provide
#1686 [22:43] <HelpME> Ok
#1687 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> If you don't want to, ro cannot call the England number.
#1688 [22:47] <mickster04> well no one will be awake
#1689 [22:47] <zkxs> Ah, the caps lock test. You can tell you're screwed when caps lock doesn't work
#1690 [23:06] * Steve[MBA] [Steve[MBA]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1691 [23:16] * Sigma [Sigma@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1692 [23:21] * xhardcorekid135 [xhardcorekid135@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1693 [23:22] * Juze [Juze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1694 [23:25] * alendo [alendo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1695 [23:27] <alendo> Can anyone help me log on? I know my password and username !00% have done both forgot pass and username so that is not the issue
#1696 [23:27] <alendo> just wont let me log on
#1697 [23:27] <Lardman|afk> What is your username?
#1698 [23:28] <alendo> alendo86
#1699 [23:28] <alendo> trying to buy the game
#1700 [23:28] <Lardman|afk> !paid alendo86
#1701 [23:28] <Lardman|afk> payment did not go through
#1702 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> That's why you're not allowd to log in
#1703 [23:28] <Lardman|afk> disk, wanna take over. I am eating :)
#1704 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> alendo: Please check your bank account to confirm if money was taken out.
#1705 [23:29] <alendo> ty will do
#1706 [23:30] <alendo> also i lost my original account "alendo" as my other hotmail account was hacked. Is there anyway to retrieve that one? i bought during alpha
#1707 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang in regards to that.
#1708 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1709 [23:31] <Lardman|afk> you will need your transaxtion id
#1710 [23:31] <Lardman|afk> transaction*
#1711 [23:32] <alendo> prob wont be able to find that :S
#1712 [23:32] <Lardman|afk> you can retrieve it
#1713 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> It should be in your bank records
#1714 [23:32] <Lardman|afk> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1715 [23:32] <alendo> also when i try to purchase hit "buy now" on the main page it trys to get me to log in... i try to log in to pay and it wont let me log in
#1716 [23:33] <alendo> i must be dumb... there has to be smoething i am missing
#1717 [23:33] <alendo> this is for alendo86
#1718 [23:33] <alendo> i wont find alendo's transaction that was 2 years ago
#1719 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Banks keep track of your records for longer than that, if your email doesn't have it
#1720 [23:33] <alendo> i'd rather just play now
#1721 [23:34] <alendo> lol
#1722 [23:34] <alendo> if i can get on Alendo86 i'd love to pay again to sponser you guys and have the game
#1723 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Have you created an account for yourself at moneybookers yet?
#1724 [23:36] <alendo> why would i do that. i just want to buy the game via credit card
#1725 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be required in order to make a credit card purchase from Mojang
#1726 [23:36] <alendo> my friend just got it
#1727 [23:37] <alendo> and was able to do it all through logging in his account
#1728 [23:37] <Lardman|eating> You can purchase w/o a MB account
#1729 [23:37] <alendo> i would like to do that yes
#1730 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> That's good to know, it must just be for the more troublesome cards that it's done for then
#1731 [23:38] <Lardman|eating> What exactly happens when you try to purchase
#1732 [23:38] <alendo> okay, so as to why i can't log into my account?
#1733 [23:39] <Lardman|eating> wait, you cannot login , even through browser?
#1734 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> That can commonly be cured by going through the reset password system http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#1735 [23:39] <alendo> done that 3 times :P
#1736 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> That page gives you further information that you don't seem to have read yet
#1737 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> alendo: Are you failing to receive the email from them?
#1738 [23:41] <alendo> no
#1739 [23:41] <alendo> i have completed the password change 4 times now
#1740 [23:42] <Lardman> Are you sure that the email was typed correctly when you made the account
#1741 [23:42] <alendo> yes
#1742 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> And you are still failing to be able to log in to the web site?
#1743 [23:42] <alendo> 100% i am doing it correctly
#1744 [23:42] <alendo> no
#1745 [23:42] <alendo> that is where the problem is
#1746 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> you're not failing to log in?
#1747 [23:42] <alendo> "oops unknown user name or password
#1748 [23:42] <alendo> "
#1749 [23:42] <alendo> is the error on the website
#1750 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> alendo: Try using your email address for the username
#1751 [23:43] <alendo> okay
#1752 [23:43] <Lardman> that wouldn't be the issue
#1753 [23:43] <Lardman> it shows a message saying it has been migrated
#1754 [23:43] <alendo> :S
#1755 [23:43] <alendo> please believe me that i am not stupid
#1756 [23:44] <alendo> i am typing it correctly
#1757 [23:44] <Lardman> No, I understand.
#1758 [23:44] <alendo> i'll try making another e mail and account i guess
#1759 [23:44] <Lardman> Something is iffy with that account.
#1760 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> You see, the only way to get in touch with Mojang about your account tends to have a 3 month delay before they reply
#1761 [23:44] <Lardman> You were able to receive the password resets correct.
#1762 [23:45] <Lardman> If Marc were on skype I would ask him to hop in here.
#1763 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> You you can contact Mojang about your account at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1764 [23:45] <Lardman> But it is the weekend. :/
#1765 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> But it's better if we can try to help you through the obvious things first
#1766 [23:45] <Lardman> You were able to receive the password resets correct.
#1767 [23:46] <Lardman> the emails*
#1768 [23:46] <alendo> yes
#1769 [23:46] <alendo> i received them
#1770 [23:46] <alendo> and it didnt matter
#1771 [23:47] <Lardman> http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1772 [23:47] <Lardman> do that please
#1773 [23:47] <alendo> done that too
#1774 [23:47] <alendo> but will
#1775 [23:47] <Lardman> just checking for typos and such.
#1776 [23:48] <alendo> also as an update my friend tried to login on his user id but was unable to
#1777 [23:48] <alendo> seems to be an issue with my computer
#1778 [23:48] <alendo> firewall maybe?
#1779 [23:48] <Lardman> maybe
#1780 [23:48] <Lardman> do you have AVG?
#1781 [23:49] <alendo> i do infact
#1782 [23:49] <Lardman> disable the link scanning module
#1783 [23:49] <Lardman> then try.
#1784 [23:49] * tjohns112 [tjohns112@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1785 [23:49] <tjohns112> hello?
#1786 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> Lardman: Are you logging in with the Minecraft launcher?
#1787 [23:49] <Lardman> hello
#1788 [23:50] <alendo> no
#1789 [23:50] <alendo> just the website
#1790 [23:50] <alendo> dont have it downloaded yet
#1791 [23:50] <alendo> new comp
#1792 [23:50] <Lardman> just disable the link scanning module on AVG
#1793 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> Okay, just checking the obvious - things are checking out well so far
#1794 [23:50] <tjohns112> I'm wondering a couple things about setting up a server
#1795 [23:50] <Lardman> tjohns112, fire away.
#1796 [23:51] <tjohns112> well i downloaded the server .exe off off minecraft.net
#1797 [23:52] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1798 [23:52] <tjohns112> and it's running on one of my computers but i want to know how to load a save file that i've already played in single player mode so that other people can join me in it?
#1799 [23:52] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1800 [23:52] <Lardman> just drop it into the same folder as the server
#1801 [23:52] <Lardman> then rename it world
#1802 [23:53] <alendo> disabling scanning module didnt work :S
#1803 [23:54] <Lardman> Yea, that was a long shot :/
#1804 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> alendo: It seems that the only remaining option is for you to contact Mojang and let them know about your the web site login trouble
#1805 [23:54] <Lardman> It works for a lot of other issues.
#1806 [23:54] <Lardman> Disk, they cannot do much about his computer problems
#1807 [23:55] * barneygale [barneygale@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1808 [23:55] <alendo> k well ty for trying
#1809 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> alendo: Do you have any better success from other computers?
#1810 [23:55] <Lardman> ^
#1811 [23:56] <Lardman> This is a weird issue.
#1812 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Honestly - if the password reset process doesn't help him to log in to the minecraft.net web site - something really fucked up is going on somewhere
#1813 [23:57] * AuBot kicked DiskDaemon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iskDaemon :Please keep it civil.)
#1814 [23:57] * DiskDaemon [DiskDaemon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1815 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Ahh yes, watch the language
#1816 [23:57] <Lardman> I doubt it could be firewall, because it probably would have blocked her from the site.
#1817 [23:57] <Lardman> It is probably her computer
#1818 [23:58] <Lardman> 2 accounts were unable to login on her computer.
#1819 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> I'm left with thinking that something is tampering with forms posted from the machine
#1820 [23:59] <tjohns112> so which file is the save file? the one labeled "level.dat"?
#1821 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> Apart from user error, how else can a form submission to change the password go wrong?
#1822 [23:59] <Lardman> you move the whole world file, which is saved in the saves folder.