#1 [00:00] <Elystus> Hmmm....
#2 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> Guest__: Can you reach your server from your own computer?
#3 [00:01] <Guest__> I can reach my server from my machine, and I can reach my server from his machine under my login, I however cannot connect to his server from my machine
#4 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Would you like to test and check if installing the JDK puts the java.exe file in the system32 folder?
#5 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> Guest__: Okay, that sounds backwards from what was initially being reported. Can you ping his computer?
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#7 [00:02] <Guest__> yes pining his ip returns 4 setn 4 recived 0 lost
#8 [00:02] <Elystus> Disk: I will, I am uninstalling all taces of java. Before I jsut uninstalled 64 bit.
#9 [00:02] <Elystus> traces*
#10 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> Guest__: Can you determine whether you are pinging your own local up or his local ip?
#11 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> s/up/ip
#12 [00:03] <Guest__> my local ip is 192.168.1.5 his ends with .6
#13 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> Guest__: So to clarify, things are okay when the sever is on your machine, but aren't okay when the server is on his machine?
#14 [00:04] <Guest__> correct and sorry for the confusion
#15 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Guest__: Temporarily disable his firewall and try again
#16 [00:05] <Elystus> Disk: Should I go for the 32 or 64 bit jdk?
#17 [00:05] <Guest__> i dont think he has one, I'll check
#18 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Start with the one you should have first
#19 [00:05] <Elystus> Sounds good.
#20 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The graphics driver being dealt wth now is using drivers from 5/25/2005
#21 [00:07] <Elystus> o.o that needs ot be updated.....
#22 [00:08] <Elystus> Okay, here are his latest drivers btw: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#23 [00:08] <Elystus> if he is still around...
#24 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: You there?
#25 [00:09] <Guest__> i made it in diskdaemon it was his firewall
#26 [00:09] <Guest__> thanks alot man
#27 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Nice one. Bring the firewall back up now on his machinre
#28 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> Remove any rules that apply to java, close your minecraft server, and start it again. You should be prompted to create new rules for it that work/
#29 [00:10] <Guest__> i need to take all the instructions at once lol its a 40 foot halway
#30 [00:10] <Guest__> alrighty
#31 [00:10] <abc_moby> Yes, I'm on that website now, not sure what to do though??
#32 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> Dropping the fireall is not how you should normally run your machine, it was just for testing purposes to see what the problem is, so that a fix can be made to get it working more normally.
#33 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: Do you see the download button?
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#35 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: The page has content that extends below what you can see on the screen. You should be able to scroll the page to see more of what's below.
#36 [00:13] <Elystus> download the catalyst software suite
#37 [00:15] <abc_moby> Should I download catalyst drivers??
#38 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: Read what Elystus said.
#39 [00:16] <abc_moby> Ok
#40 [00:19] <Elystus> Disk: Doesn't want to fail :?
#41 [00:19] <Elystus> :/
#42 [00:19] <Elystus> time to try 32 bit
#43 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Can you clarify? Was java not available from the command prompt before the install, and available afterwards?
#44 [00:21] <Elystus> its always been working...
#45 [00:21] <Elystus> I have been trying to get it to fail.
#46 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Ahh - you have to start with a fail condition first.
#47 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> With java uninstalled, fully (using JavaRa is a good way) you can then start with a clean slate.
#48 [00:22] <Elystus> lets try that, it will probably get rid of all paths
#49 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I have just done that with my machine today
#50 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Getting rid of the java paths is important too. People coming here haven't added java to their paths. You shouldn't tii.
#51 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> *too
#52 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Remember, your task is to try and create a similar environment to that which causes the problems
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#59 [00:29] <Elystus> hey disk
#60 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> o/
#61 [00:29] <abc_moby> I'm restarting my pc now, hopefully that download works, thanks to everyone for your help!!
#62 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#63 [00:29] <Elystus> your welcome
#64 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> *twitch*
#65 [00:30] <Elystus> disk: if this does not work, I might creat e 50-60 gb partion and install windows on that.
#66 [00:30] <Elystus> then try a straight 32 bit jdk from the start.
#67 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> How about a virtual machine instead?
#68 [00:30] <Elystus> That is also possible
#69 [00:31] <Elystus> Either way, I will probably do it in the morning.
#70 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> It can make things easier. Have a base install, and then clone it so that you can do some tests with it
#71 [00:34] <manbot> how do i change my server name? from "minecraft server" to something else..?
#72 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> manbot: Edit it in server.properties
#73 [00:34] <manbot> there's no server name parameter there, only motd.
#74 [00:34] <Elystus> yea I do not think I am going to be able to duplicate the problem on this. I think the paths are set, so I cannot cause it.
#75 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> manbot: Where are you seeing "minecraft server" ?
#76 [00:35] <abc_moby> Minecraft is working on my pc, my son is so so happy, he waited about 6 days for money to transfer to my PayPal account, then we bought the game this morning, and now it works thanks to you guys, I hope you all have a great day, my 10 year old will now!!!
#77 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: Glad to help
#78 [00:35] <Elystus> Great to hear :)
#79 [00:36] <manbot> disk, it's in the server list on game client end.
#80 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: There's some performance improvements that you can make too
#81 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> manbot: You can edit that field in the client
#82 [00:36] <manbot> oh, right.
#83 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> abc_moby: There are a lot of tips colalted together in this thread, which you will ant to take a close and careful look at http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/minecraft/78772-tips-increasing-minecraft-performance
#84 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> *collated
#85 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> brr.. cold fingers. /me puts on gloves
#86 [00:38] <abc_moby> Its not too hard for a dope like me I hope!!!!
#87 [00:38] <Elystus> Its hot here, send some of that coolness here ;-;
#88 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> oh if only
#89 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> I have a personal theory, that air conditioners are pushing heat outside of buildings and cars, resulting in more hot air in the local environment helping to push up temperature readonss
#90 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> *readinds
#91 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> Gah!
#92 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> *readings
#93 [00:41] <Elystus> Most likely
#94 [00:41] <Elystus> Pretty much what my computer is doing.
#95 [00:42] <abc_moby> Thanks again, see ya guys.
#96 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> That and ashfelt result in cities that are 20% warmer overnight, than the surrounding countryside.
#97 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> correction, 20 degrees warmer overnight
#98 [00:43] <Elystus> Yea, I would hate to live downtown
#99 [00:43] <Dan> who here uses ubuntu 10.04
#100 [00:43] <Elystus> I used to, then I updated :-;
#101 [00:44] <Elystus> 12.04 is terrible
#102 [00:44] <Dan> well im trying to get sun-java6-jdk installed but i cant on my end for some reason
#103 [00:44] <Dan> i just wanted to see if there was a way to get it
#104 [00:45] <Elystus> I have no idea. I knew how to use it, but not how to troubleshoot it XD
#105 [00:45] <Dan> yea cause openjdk isnt working
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#113 [01:19] <Kethsar> So, quick question. I can't seem to update Minecraft. It get's some of the way through, and then just stops. In the past, I was able to bypass this problem by updating via the browser, but that's not working this time around. Any ideas on a way to fix the problem?
#114 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Yep, temporarily disable your antivirus program and try again
#115 [01:20] <Kethsar> Okay
#116 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Let me guess, AVG?
#117 [01:20] <Kethsar> Yes... Wow....
#118 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> Yep, it's notorious for that.
#119 [01:21] <Wug> its the link scanner module specifically
#120 [01:21] <Kethsar> Heh. Well, thanks for that. I never would've guessed
#121 [01:21] <Wug> you might add an exception or disable it or something
#122 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> I suggest that you use a better antivirus program - Microsoft Securty Essentials is what we recommend here.
#123 [01:21] <Kethsar> Yeah, I never use the linkscanner anyway
#124 [01:22] <Kethsar> I've been considering MS SE, but never got around to trying it
#125 [01:22] * DiskDaemon goes down for dinner
#125 [01:23] <JungleShark15> I am buying a laptop and I found one but I don't know exactly if Minecraft will work on it. It has 750 GB of Memory and 6GB of RAM and runs on the 2nd Gen. i5 intel core processor. I was just wondering if this will be good enough to run minecraft.
#126 [01:23] <Wug> it will probably be at least ok
#127 [01:23] <Kethsar> ^
#128 [01:24] <Wug> does it have discrete or integrated graphics
#129 [01:24] <Kethsar> Does it come with a discrete GPU?
#130 [01:24] <Kethsar> :I
#131 [01:24] <Wug> if theyre integrated, you might consider searching for one that has a discrete card
#132 [01:24] <JungleShark15> Integrated
#133 [01:24] <Kethsar> Better yet, how about a link?
#134 [01:24] <Wug> Kethsar: its almost like ive said this before
#135 [01:24] <Kethsar> Heh
#136 [01:24] <Wug> JungleShark15: the second gen core i series processors have ok onboard gpus so it will at least run it
#137 [01:24] <JungleShark15> http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-l502x/pd.aspx?ST=%20xps%20%2015&dgc=ST&cid=245446&lid=4222352&acd=sOZYMcREm,26321139114,901pdb6671
#138 [01:25] <Kethsar> Ahh... Dell....
#139 [01:25] <Wug> but if you want it to perform _well_, you should look into getting one with a discrete card
#140 [01:25] <JungleShark15> Alright Thanks
#141 [01:26] <Kethsar> I'd also recommend staying away from Dell, but that's more of a personal opinion
#142 [01:27] <JungleShark15> I was going to get an Alienware but too expensive
#143 [01:27] <Kethsar> Alienware is a part of Dell
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#146 [01:34] <JungleShark15> Is a NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M 1GB with optimus be discrete
#147 [01:36] <Wug> yeah thats fine
#148 [01:36] <JungleShark15> Alright Thanks
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#151 [01:40] <JungleShark15> Also I was wondering If Norton 360 was a good choice for Antivirus
#152 [01:40] <Warfar> no
#153 [01:41] <Warfar> its not
#154 [01:41] <puffrfish> please, do not get that
#155 [01:41] <Warfar> avast is good
#156 [01:41] <JungleShark15> What do you recommend
#157 [01:42] <Warfar> avast
#158 [01:42] <puffrfish> I like Microsoft Security Essentials
#159 [01:42] <Warfar> its free
#160 [01:42] <Warfar> so is microsoft security essentials
#161 [01:42] <Warfar> but i feel avast is better
#162 [01:43] <JungleShark15> I don't think I could trust a free antivirus but I might check out microsoft security essentials
#163 [01:43] <Warfar> if your gonna buy then buy kasperky
#164 [01:44] <Kethsar> I had Kaspersky for the first year I had my first PC. Was nice.
#165 [01:44] <Warfar> bitdefender is better but annoying
#166 [01:45] <JungleShark15> Only reason I was thinking Norton is because it defrags your computer and makes it run better
#167 [01:45] <Warfar> lol
#168 [01:45] <Warfar> i have it
#169 [01:45] <Warfar> it doesnt do shit
#170 [01:47] <Warfar> but this is a buisness computer and norton was at a 80% discount with this computer so ...
#171 [01:48] <JungleShark15> I just wan't a computer for school and games
#172 [01:48] <Warfar> avast is good
#173 [01:49] <Warfar> or avira
#174 [01:49] <JungleShark15> and avast is completely free
#175 [01:49] <Warfar> yeah
#176 [01:49] <Warfar> and avira
#177 [01:50] <JungleShark15> I just don't want my pc to get hacked
#178 [01:51] <Warfar> then just use system resore if it does
#179 [01:51] <Warfar> restore
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#183 [02:15] <Warfar> hey
#184 [02:15] <Warfar> ub lives in austin too
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#187 [02:18] <Marc_IRL> pop quiz
#188 [02:18] <Warfar> ok
#189 [02:18] <Marc_IRL> (actually, I just don't know the answer)
#190 [02:18] <Warfar> i is ready
#191 [02:18] <Marc_IRL> Check this out? "When I go to the page www.minecraft.net I can sign in ok. But when I go to the right of the page and click on "in browser" that is where it all stalls. It shows Java loading and then the screen message reads "initializing loader" and it just sits there with that displayed on the screen and does nothing else."
#192 [02:19] <Marc_IRL> Anyone recognize that error?
#193 [02:19] <Warfar> nope
#194 [02:19] <Wug> initializing loader and nothing?
#195 [02:19] <Wug> havent seen it specifically, but reinstalling java will probably fix it
#196 [02:19] <Wug> is this classic or release
#197 [02:19] <Marc_IRL> assuming release
#198 [02:19] <Wug> classic has lots of issues release does not
#199 [02:19] <Wug> the download client also has a better chance of working
#200 [02:20] <Wug> especially in environments like internet explorer
#201 [02:20] <Wug> was this an email?
#202 [02:20] <Marc_IRL> yeah
#203 [02:21] <Marc_IRL> And I don't normally try to troubleshoot these, but I kind of walked into this one
#204 [02:21] <Wug> are you responding now?
#205 [02:21] <Marc_IRL> mhm
#206 [02:22] <Wug> I'd recommend suggesting trying a different browser, using the download client, or reinstalling java, and asking whether or not he has tried any of that, as well as the browser, the version of windows, and the version of java
#207 [02:22] <Wug> and I'm going to bed
#208 [02:22] <Wug> its 2:22
#209 [02:23] <Wug> has work tomorrow :S
#210 [02:23] <Marc_IRL> ok, night!
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#212 [02:32] <fail-install> someone online?
#213 [02:32] <Warfar> yeah
#214 [02:34] <fail-install> lul I downloaded AdventureCraft, but but when I start the program it says "could not find the main class: ACLaucher. Program will exit
#215 [02:34] <Warfar> ??< fail-install mod
#216 [02:34] <Warfar> ??< fail-install modding
#217 [02:34] <Warfar> ??< modding
#218 [02:34] <Warfar> ??< modding fail-install
#219 [02:34] <fail-install> o.o
#220 [02:34] <Necrodoom> fail-install: you failed to install the mod, pretty much
#221 [02:35] <fail-install> :D
#222 [02:35] <Warfar> damnit
#223 [02:35] <Warfar> <<? mod
#224 [02:35] <Warfar> how does voxelhead work -.-
#225 [02:35] <fail-install> I have rei's minimap already. Is it something doing with that?
#226 [02:35] <Warfar> ??< index
#227 [02:35] <Warfar> -.-
#228 [02:35] <Necrodoom> says a class file of the mod is missing
#229 [02:36] <Necrodoom> so prob not
#230 [02:36] <fail-install> where the fuck it is
#231 [02:36] * AuBot` kicked fail-install from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ail-install :Please keep it civil.)
#232 [02:36] <Warfar> ??< mods
#233 [02:36] <Warfar> ahh there it is
#234 [02:38] <Warfar> ??< mods Necrodoom
#235 [02:39] <Necrodoom> still nope
#236 [02:39] <Warfar> ??< Necrodoom mods
#237 [02:39] <Warfar> ...
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#239 [02:46] <Rikairchy> isnt it ??> <target> <command> ?
#240 [02:46] <Warfar> doesnt work
#241 [02:46] <Rikairchy> ??> Warfar index
#242 [02:47] <VoxelHead> Warfar: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#243 [02:47] <Warfar> wtf
#244 [02:47] <Rikairchy> orly.
#245 [02:47] <Warfar> oh
#246 [02:47] <Warfar> >
#247 [02:47] <Warfar> i sues <
#248 [02:47] <Warfar> used
#249 [02:47] <Warfar> -.-
#250 [02:47] <Rikairchy> ahh
#251 [02:47] <Rikairchy> that may be why
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#253 [02:48] <mib_yzd3qp> Hello all
#254 [02:48] <Warfar> hi
#255 [02:48] <mib_yzd3qp> Can somebody help me that is member in minecraft.net
#256 [02:48] <Warfar> we all are
#257 [02:48] <Warfar> prob
#258 [02:49] <Warfar> !paid Rikairchy
#259 [02:49] <mib_yzd3qp> I have an little problame that i think you can help me with
#260 [02:49] <Warfar> ok yeahwe all are
#261 [02:49] <Warfar> details?
#262 [02:50] <mib_yzd3qp> I buyed game ( Premium Account ) From my best friend and i dont liked the username verry mutch and there is him e-mail in profile not mine. I want to fix it to my email and maybe if you can change the username
#263 [02:50] <Warfar> nope
#264 [02:50] <Warfar> no one can right now
#265 [02:50] <Warfar> but it is a planned feature
#266 [02:50] <mib_yzd3qp> Ok, i understand the username but the e-mail?
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#268 [02:51] <mib_yzd3qp> I am scared that he pushes the button " Forgot Password and the autobot will send the new password to his email " :/
#269 [02:52] <Warfar> should be under profile in minecraft.net
#270 [02:52] <mib_yzd3qp> warfar, how much must i pay to you that you can change the E-Mail and the Username in my Profile. Please you must understand me. Btw do you have skype?
#271 [02:53] <Warfar> ...
#272 [02:53] <Warfar> well
#273 [02:53] <Warfar> you cant change the username
#274 [02:53] <Warfar> but ill do it for free
#275 [02:53] <Warfar> do you have tv?
#276 [02:53] <mib_yzd3qp> but my username is " Martin1610 " And my name is Rokas. Its quet lol :9
#277 [02:53] <mib_yzd3qp> but my username is " Martin1610 " And my name is Rokas. Its quet lol :(
#278 [02:54] <Warfar> get teamviewer
#279 [02:54] <mib_yzd3qp> Yes i have tv, i live in Norway but am from Lithuanian
#280 [02:54] <mib_yzd3qp> I mean Sweden
#281 [02:54] <Necrodoom> mib_yzd3qp: Team Viewer
#282 [02:54] <mib_yzd3qp> Ok, i can get it
#283 [02:54] <Warfar> ??> teamviewer Necrodoom
#284 [02:54] <mib_yzd3qp> But you swear you dont hack me? i payd for the accunt
#285 [02:54] * AuBot` kicked mib_yzd3qp from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_yzd3qp :Please keep it civil.)
#286 [02:54] <Necrodoom> Warfar: still nope.
#287 [02:55] <Necrodoom> wait, wtf?
#288 [02:55] <Warfar> ??> Necrodoom teamviwer
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#290 [02:55] <Necrodoom> how did he got him self kicked
#291 [02:55] <mib_x726ov> i dont know why i'we been kicked
#292 [02:55] <Warfar> h4ck is a cival word
#293 [02:55] <Jed> Hey guys. For some reason the gravel texture won't change to the new one. I've tried force updating but it won't change...
#294 [02:55] <Necrodoom> spambot being abusive
#295 [02:55] <mib_x726ov> i meen , you dont gonna hėck me ?
#296 [02:55] <Warfar> yeah
#297 [02:56] <Warfar> just get teamviewer and querry me the id and pass
#298 [02:56] <mib_x726ov> Ok, soon i gonna download team viewer
#299 [02:56] <Warfar> @jed its only for snapshot
#300 [02:56] <mib_x726ov> wait fue minits, sorry for language Ą
#301 [02:56] <mib_x726ov> wait fue minits, sorry for language
#302 [02:56] <Jed> What do you mean snapshot?
#303 [02:56] <Jed> :\
#304 [02:56] <Warfar> pre releases
#305 [02:56] <Jed> Oh
#306 [02:57] <mib_x726ov> Jed that you? that popular guy that have Twitter?
#307 [02:57] <Jed> No
#308 [02:57] <Jed> xD
#309 [02:57] <mib_x726ov> Ok
#310 [02:57] <Warfar> ??> login
#311 [02:57] <Necrodoom> mib_x726ov: i think you mean jeb
#312 [02:57] <Warfar> ??> warfar login
#313 [02:57] <VoxelHead> warfar: (login) http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#314 [02:57] <VoxelHead> warfar: (login) https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#315 [02:57] <Jed> So 12w21a isn't out yet?
#316 [02:57] <Jed> :P
#317 [02:57] <Warfar> thats old
#318 [02:58] <Warfar> realllly old
#319 [02:58] <Necrodoom> theres 27a now
#320 [02:58] <Jed> ._.
#321 [02:58] <mib_x726ov> Warfar, if it lagging verry mutch in the teamviewer it couse the pc i have :/
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#323 [02:58] <Jed> I haven't updated my minecraft then
#324 [02:58] <Jed> .-.
#325 [02:58] <Warfar> ok
#326 [02:58] <Warfar> please querry me the details
#327 [02:58] <mib_x726ov> wait 1min
#328 [02:58] <mib_x726ov> its running
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#330 [02:59] <Warfar> can somone please give me a free vps?
#331 [02:59] <mib_x726ov> warfare, i do it because i verry scared that no one gonna h4ck me, understand ? :)
#332 [02:59] <mib_x726ov> 227 043 663
#333 [02:59] <Warfar> !paid
#334 [02:59] <mib_x726ov> v42c5z
#335 [02:59] <Warfar> yeah
#336 [02:59] <mib_x726ov> this is id and pass
#337 [03:00] <Warfar> next time querry it
#338 [03:00] <Necrodoom> mib_x726ov: you are meant to PM them
#339 [03:00] <Warfar> everyone saw that
#340 [03:00] <Necrodoom> mib_x726ov: now everyone can see it
#341 [03:00] <mib_x726ov> Ok sorry
#342 [03:00] <Necrodoom> mib_x726ov: better stop Team viewer and get a new ID and pass
#343 [03:00] <Warfar> somone will hack you
#344 [03:00] <Warfar> -.-
#345 [03:00] <mib_x726ov> No, why do you leave?
#346 [03:00] <Warfar> ./querry warfar
#347 [03:01] <mib_x726ov> Ok
#348 [03:01] <Warfar> get a new pass
#349 [03:01] <mib_x726ov> So i need new id and pass?
#350 [03:01] <mib_x726ov> ok
#351 [03:01] <Warfar> woops
#352 [03:02] <Warfar> ./query
#353 [03:02] <mib_x726ov> Warfare wait č min
#354 [03:03] <Jed> If i click "Force Update" will it auto update to 12w27a?
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#356 [03:06] <Necrodoom> you have to manually get the jar, i think
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#358 [03:07] <Jed> So i have to redownload .jar? .-.
#359 [03:07] <Warfar> no
#360 [03:07] <Warfar> its on the minecraft forums
#361 [03:08] <Mr_Happy530> when clicking multiplayer mode or single player on the "free mode" and it says downloading packages it sayz that an error occured when loading the applet Fatal error (5): a device attached to the system is not functioning
#362 [03:09] <Jed> Where on the forums though... Haha i'm having sooo many problemz
#363 [03:09] <Warfar> http://bit.ly/MXU2u2
#364 [03:09] <Necrodoom> http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/544-snapshot-27a-13-news/
#365 [03:10] <Mr_Happy530> anyone have an answer to my question?._.
#366 [03:11] <Jed> Do i delete the old Minecraft.jar now>
#367 [03:11] <Warfar> replace it
#368 [03:12] <Warfar> ??< jed snapshot
#369 [03:12] <Jed> Ok
#370 [03:12] <Jed> yeah
#371 [03:12] <Warfar> ??< snapshot
#372 [03:12] <Jed> i downloaded
#373 [03:12] <Warfar> ...
#374 [03:12] <Jed> i downloaded off the snapshot
#375 [03:12] <Warfar> replace the minecraft.jar
#376 [03:14] <Jed> Replaced
#377 [03:15] <Jed> So it should be like 27a now>
#378 [03:15] <Warfar> yeah
#379 [03:15] <Mr_Happy530> when clicking multiplayer mode or single player on the "free mode" and it says downloading packages it sayz that "an error occured when loading the applet Fatal error (5): a device attached to the system is not functioning" anyone know what this means?
#380 [03:16] <Jed> Do i also put the server_.jar somewhere?
#381 [03:16] <Warfar> nope
#382 [03:16] <Jed> Alright
#383 [03:17] <lemon-rev> Mr_Happy530 how far does the bar get before erroring out ?
#384 [03:17] <Mr_Happy530> it loads all the way then says it or maybe around 95%
#385 [03:17] <mib_x726ov> Who is member in this forum >
#386 [03:18] <lemon-rev> Mr_Happy530 do you have a antivirus and can you disable it, and try and do another force update to see if that helps
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#388 [03:19] <Mr_Happy530> ok i will
#389 [03:19] <Rokas> Mr_happy?
#390 [03:20] <Mr_Happy530> an update on java or minecraft? and yeah?
#391 [03:20] <Rokas> Can you change my E-mail adress in my profile?
#392 [03:20] <lemon-rev> on minecraft you should beable to force update before you actually start to see the main screen the launcher
#393 [03:20] <lemon-rev> usually does that
#394 [03:20] <Rokas> lemon
#395 [03:20] <lemon-rev> rokas yes
#396 [03:21] <Rokas> Can you change my E-mail adress in my profile?
#397 [03:21] <Rokas> Minecraft.net profil;e
#398 [03:21] <Rokas> Minecraft.net profile
#399 [03:21] <lemon-rev> if your after changing your email then check google with minecraft and email i think you can but you need to follow correct links
#400 [03:21] <Mr_Happy530> whait i cant find where i update?D: im so lost :c
#401 [03:21] <Rokas> can u help me via team viewer
#402 [03:22] <lemon-rev> theres no need, you just need brain power
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#404 [03:22] <Rokas> the e-mail is my friends, he can get new pasword to his email if he push button forgot password
#405 [03:23] <lemon-rev> should be correct, if he gets his pass wrong that is,
#406 [03:23] <Rokas> But the account is my, and the email is his. Its not fare!!
#407 [03:24] <Rokas> I am scared, payed for account and want to change email ir minecraft.net profile
#408 [03:24] <lemon-rev> rokas how did that happen, did he help you sign in
#409 [03:24] <lemon-rev> ?
#410 [03:24] <Rokas> yes
#411 [03:24] <lemon-rev> then why should it be a problem now, are you not friends anymore,
#412 [03:24] <lemon-rev> hangon, rokas
#413 [03:25] <Mr_Happy530> @lemon-rev where do i perfomr the force update?
#414 [03:25] <lemon-rev> http://help.mojang.com/
#415 [03:25] <Rokas> He is agressive in the past week, he say he need an premium account and lokking right at me
#416 [03:25] <lemon-rev> Mr_Happy530 have you got the client of minecraft ?
#417 [03:26] <Rokas> He is agressive in the past week, he say he need an premium account and lokking right at me
#418 [03:26] <lemon-rev> rokas follow the link i gave you
#419 [03:26] <Mr_Happy530> i dont think so im just playing for free im not premium so idk
#420 [03:26] <Rokas> ok
#421 [03:26] <lemon-rev> Mr_Happy530 how are you playing for free, are you saying your playing minecraft classic ?
#422 [03:26] <Rokas> lemon, do you have teamer ?
#423 [03:27] <Mr_Happy530> yeah the classic thats the free version
#424 [03:27] <lemon-rev> yes i dont need it, i keep telling you this, just use your brain please
#425 [03:27] <lemon-rev> bah
#426 [03:27] <lemon-rev> Mr_Happy530 theres a minecraft demo but its nothing like what minecraft will be shortly once it gets its next update so either play the demo or buy it, then you can play it
#427 [03:27] <Rokas> But there is no question like " I need to change my email on profile minecraft.net " or something
#428 [03:28] <lemon-rev> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530
#429 [03:28] <lemon-rev> how about useing the top bar to type in your question and finding out that way
#430 [03:28] <Rokas> Ohh thank you ! :)
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#432 [03:29] <Mr_Happy530> but what about the classic version? the demo is for a short amount of time i rather just get on the classic version every now and then whule the demo lasts only for a short while i dont play minecraft muchso i just dont bother to buy it ._.
#433 [03:31] <lemon-rev> the classic version isnt anything like propper minecraft unless you just like building stuff with basic blocks
#434 [03:31] <Rokas> lemon,
#435 [03:31] <lemon-rev> the full version of minecraft has more blocks and had more to it than you can imagine
#436 [03:31] <lemon-rev> rokas ?
#437 [03:31] <Rokas> they say " i will send the martin@hoel.biz and the new email, but i dont know what is his password in the email
#438 [03:32] <Mr_Happy530> bah alright xc
#439 [03:32] <lemon-rev> rokas im not going to tell you a solution appart from trying to change your email address though the help on that page
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#441 [03:32] <Rokas> So you cant change my password? Are you the member?
#442 [03:33] <lemon-rev> rokas no one in here is a member
#443 [03:33] <Rokas> i mean email
#444 [03:33] <bozo97> i just bought the game and i have been playing it for a while and it says minecraft has run out of memory
#445 [03:33] <Rokas> Warfar was
#446 [03:33] <lemon-rev> you can only get the password changed if you owned the orgional email
#447 [03:33] <Rikairchy> bozo97: what OS?
#448 [03:33] <lemon-rev> bozo97 how long does that happen maybe turning down the video options
#449 [03:33] <bozo97> OS??
#450 [03:33] <Necrodoom> Rokas: member =/= moderator or admin
#451 [03:34] <Rikairchy> bozo97: windows or Mac?
#452 [03:34] <bozo97> windows
#453 [03:34] <Rikairchy> how much RAM does your computer have?
#454 [03:34] <bozo97> dont no
#455 [03:34] <Rikairchy> go to the start menu, and right click on My Computer/Computer
#456 [03:34] <bozo97> yes
#457 [03:35] <Rikairchy> then go to properties
#458 [03:35] <bozo97> yes
#459 [03:35] <Rokas> Can somebody tel me whos member or somethink like that that works in minecraft.net?
#460 [03:35] <Necrodoom> Rokas: no one
#461 [03:35] <Rikairchy> Rokas: as far as I know, no one works for minecraft here
#462 [03:35] <Rokas> I need to change my email adress in my minecraft.net profile
#463 [03:35] <Rokas> Ok
#464 [03:35] <Rikairchy> bozo97: look for Installed Memory
#465 [03:35] <Necrodoom> Rokas: without access to email, nothing can be done
#466 [03:35] <Rikairchy> ^
#467 [03:35] <bozo97> yer it s16gb
#468 [03:35] <Rokas> Which email?
#469 [03:36] <Rokas> The friends email or my?>
#470 [03:36] <Rikairchy> 16GB of RAM?
#471 [03:36] <Necrodoom> Rokas: friends email
#472 [03:36] <bozo97> yes
#473 [03:36] <Rokas> Ok, mayby i can wait
#474 [03:36] <Rikairchy> are you using a custom start script? or just double clicking the EXE?
#475 [03:36] <Rokas> i think i know his email password
#476 [03:36] <bozo97> i bought the game downloaded it and click on that
#477 [03:37] <Rokas> but where can i find the email site called biz. ?
#478 [03:37] <lemon-rev> rokas we cant tell you to hack his email for our benefit
#479 [03:37] <Rokas> martin@hoel.biz
#480 [03:37] <Rokas> i dont want to h4ck him!! its my account, i want my email in my profile!!
#481 [03:38] <Rokas> i just ask where can i find the email site called biz. in the end?
#482 [03:38] <Necrodoom> Rokas: google the damn thing
#483 [03:38] <Rikairchy> what did you download?
#484 [03:38] <bozo97> the game
#485 [03:38] <Rokas> i am searching in google " Biz " nothing comes
#486 [03:39] <Necrodoom> Rokas: the email is called hoel, not biz.
#487 [03:39] <Rokas> thats hes aftername
#488 [03:39] <Necrodoom> i found hoel.biz
#489 [03:39] <bozo97> i downloaded the game
#490 [03:39] <Necrodoom> got some unknown language
#491 [03:40] <Rokas> can you send me site?
#492 [03:40] <Rokas> Sorry i am not good in that searching
#493 [03:40] <Necrodoom> Rokas: its called using google
#494 [03:40] <lemon-rev> Necrodoom are you talking about your own experance ?
#495 [03:40] <Necrodoom> Rokas: and typing in search bar
#496 [03:40] <bozo97> so what do i do
#497 [03:40] <Necrodoom> lemon-rev: most emails ive seen use that way
#498 [03:40] <Necrodoom> lemon-rev: though i might be wrong
#499 [03:41] <Rokas> it comes hoel.biz and there is hosting and blah. but not email
#500 [03:41] <lemon-rev> bozo97 so you downloaded the game did you pay for it ?
#501 [03:41] <bozo97> yes
#502 [03:41] <lemon-rev> Necrodoom well rokas you know his email account name you just need user/ pass we cant help you
#503 [03:41] <Rikairchy> bozo97: try updating java
#504 [03:41] <Rikairchy> ??> bozo97 java
#505 [03:42] <VoxelHead> bozo97: (java) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html
#506 [03:42] <lemon-rev> bozo97 so if you put your username and pass in the launcher what happens
#507 [03:42] <Rikairchy> what no
#508 [03:42] <Rikairchy> thats old
#509 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> ??~ java|http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#510 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> Try that one
#511 [03:42] <Necrodoom> Rokas: ask your friend for pass, be done with it.
#512 [03:42] <bozo97> i put password and user in and it works for a few minutes then runs ou tof memory
#513 [03:42] <Rokas> i just need to change the email in my profile, i can do it via my friends email. that it. i need to find hes email site but i cant. i understand gmail,hotmail yahoo but not hoel.biz :/
#514 [03:42] <Necrodoom> Rikairchy: we can do nothing to help you
#515 [03:42] <Necrodoom> oops
#516 [03:43] <Necrodoom> Rokas: we can do nothing to help you
#517 [03:43] <Necrodoom> Rokas:just ask your friend
#518 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> bozo97 - Uninstall java completely, go to http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html and install the 64 bit version
#519 [03:43] <Rokas> Ok, good bye have an nice day :)
#520 [03:43] <bozo97> ok
#521 [03:45] <Rikairchy> [03:42:47] <Necrodoom> Rikairchy: we can do nothing to help you | no one can, not even the therapists
#522 [03:45] <bozo97> i downloaded it
#523 [03:50] <Rikairchy> did you install it?
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#528 [04:09] <libraryaddict> !login
#529 [04:12] <Rikairchy> !drugs
#530 [04:12] <Rikairchy> aw
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#533 [04:18] <Cresent> Hi, I just baught minecraft, but when I run it then log on, it says driver components mis matched, exit is the only option. how do I fix this?
#534 [04:18] <ProTrollerSkates> anyone know why you gotta use /msg nickserv on #minecraft
#535 [04:18] <ProTrollerSkates> it's extremely confusing
#536 [04:19] <Cresent> I am on a limited timeframe at the moment, can someone please help?
#537 [04:19] <lemon-rev> with ?
#538 [04:19] <Cresent> I just baught minecraft, but when I run it then log on, it says driver components mis matched, exit is the only option. how do I fix this?
#539 [04:19] <Rikairchy> well if your time is limited
#540 [04:19] <Rikairchy> dont waste it on minecraft
#541 [04:20] <lemon-rev> cresent see if you can goto java.com and update java
#542 [04:20] <lemon-rev> and see if you can force update
#543 [04:20] <Cresent> Iok
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#546 [04:26] <AnamVH> Hey everyone. I just got Minecraft. When I play it, after a short time, it turns into a slideshow. This is true even if I play in the webbrowser. How can I fix this?
#547 [04:28] <lemon-rev> AnamVH what you mean slide show ie the game has slowed right down your only seeing single screen
#548 [04:28] <lemon-rev> then turn down your video in game and lower the fog
#549 [04:28] <AnamVH> The game will run, then freeze the image, then run a second, and freeze again.
#550 [04:29] <lemon-rev> AnamVH have you tryed updating your graphcis driver
#551 [04:30] <AnamVH> I´ll try that. It´s been a month or so.
#552 [04:30] <lemon-rev> waht since you updated it ?
#553 [04:30] <lemon-rev> is it a desktop or laptop ?
#554 [04:30] <lemon-rev> and what version number of mc are your unning ?
#555 [04:32] <AnamVH> I have a Nvidia Geforce GX 640m, and it has the latest driver installed, according to the Nvidia website.
#556 [04:32] <AnamVH> So I have a laptop,
#557 [04:32] <AnamVH> With it´s power hooked onto the net.
#558 [04:32] <lemon-rev> how much memory have you got in that laptop ?
#559 [04:33] <AnamVH> My harddisk has 218 gb left
#560 [04:33] <AnamVH> Correct that, 39.1 of 218
#561 [04:33] <lemon-rev> not hard disk, im talking about memory , ie ram
#562 [04:34] <AnamVH> Hmm, beats me. How can I check that?
#563 [04:36] <lemon-rev> AnamVH what verion of windows you got
#564 [04:36] <AnamVH> 7, should be updated.
#565 [04:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#566 [04:37] <lemon-rev> dude, goto your control pannel and see if you can find like something called system or something that tells you about the system it self, like that
#567 [04:41] <AnamVH> I have 4gb ram
#568 [04:42] <lemon-rev> ok good stuff, i wnder why your system hates mc then
#569 [04:42] <AnamVH> Me too. :(
#570 [04:42] <lemon-rev> unless java is foobared,
#571 [04:42] <lemon-rev> ??> AnamVH win/javara
#572 [04:42] <lemon-rev> ??> AnamVH javara
#573 [04:42] <VoxelHead> AnamVH: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#574 [04:42] <VoxelHead> AnamVH: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#575 [04:42] <lemon-rev> you can try that, then reinstalling java
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#577 [04:43] <AnamVH> I had an old version of Java, when I had this problem. Then I downloaded latest version, and the problem is still there.
#578 [04:43] <lemon-rev> maybe the old one currupted / then currupted the newest one
#579 [04:43] <lemon-rev> thats why im saying maybe try fresh
#580 [04:46] <Wolfcub> hey, when i start my minecraft it keeps saying ''Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.'' any ideas on how to fix that? i have deleted and redownloaded minecraft and java and this still comes up
#581 [04:46] <lemon-rev> Wolfcub how long has this happend
#582 [04:46] <Wolfcub> a week or two
#583 [04:47] <lemon-rev> can you try going to java.com and updateing your java and then trying again
#584 [04:48] <Wolfcub> its the up to date on i have
#585 [04:48] <Wolfcub> *one
#586 [04:48] <Rikairchy> can you fully uninstall java, reinstall, then force update minecraft?
#587 [04:48] <lemon-rev> Wolfcub can you goto java.com and check please
#588 [04:48] <Wolfcub> i have
#589 [04:48] <lemon-rev> well yes with program called javara Rikairchy
#590 [04:49] <Rikairchy> ?
#591 [04:49] <lemon-rev> ??> Wolfcub javara
#592 [04:49] <Rikairchy> no, i wasnt asking if it was possible, i was asking Wolfcub to do it :P
#593 [04:49] <lemon-rev> ??> Wolfcub win/javara
#594 [04:49] <Wolfcub> i cant even get on minecraft to do anything, it works in browser
#595 [04:49] <VoxelHead> Wolfcub: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#596 [04:49] <VoxelHead> Wolfcub: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#597 [04:49] <lemon-rev> oh
#598 [04:49] <lemon-rev> so it works in broswer but not in client, eired
#599 [04:49] <lemon-rev> wired*
#600 [04:50] <Rikairchy> the only time i really need help is with bukkit
#601 [04:50] <Rikairchy> maybe not
#602 [04:50] <Rikairchy> Wolfcub
#603 [04:50] <lemon-rev> Rikairchy we cant help with bukit
#604 [04:50] <Rikairchy> do you have a 64 bit computer?
#605 [04:50] <Rikairchy> lemon-rev: thats why I dont ask for help here :P
#606 [04:50] <Rikairchy> lemon-rev I may have an idea as to why browser works
#607 [04:50] <lemon-rev> ok
#608 [04:51] <Rikairchy> most browsers use 32-bit
#609 [04:51] <Rikairchy> minecraft can run using 64 bit java
#610 [04:51] <Rikairchy> so if there is an error in a 64 bit install, the 32 will work fine
#611 [04:51] <Rikairchy> so if we replace the 64 bit install, it may fix it
#612 [04:51] <Rikairchy> or it could even be the installed copy of minecraft
#613 [04:52] <Wolfcub> i have no idea
#614 [04:52] <Rikairchy> Wolfcub, are you familiar with teamviewer?
#615 [04:52] <Wolfcub> nope
#616 [04:52] <Rikairchy> ??> Wolfcub teamviewer
#617 [04:52] <VoxelHead> Wolfcub: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#618 [04:52] <VoxelHead> Wolfcub: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#619 [04:52] <Rikairchy> I believe I can remedy this situation
#620 [04:53] <Wolfcub> ok
#621 [04:54] <Rikairchy> seem acceptable?
#622 [04:54] <Wolfcub> yeah
#623 [04:55] <Rikairchy> let me know when you have it run and are awaiting a connection
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#625 [04:56] <Rikairchy> heya Calinou
#626 [04:56] <Calinou> hi
#627 [04:56] <Calinou> LOL
#628 [04:56] <Calinou> @ version
#629 [04:56] <Rikairchy> :D
#630 [04:56] <Rikairchy> i got a few more
#631 [04:56] <Rikairchy> source, time, chat, etc.
#632 [04:56] <Wolfcub> i have no idea how this works lol
#633 [04:57] <Rikairchy> Wolfcub
#634 [04:57] <Rikairchy> just run the EXE
#635 [04:57] <Rikairchy> and next through it all
#636 [04:57] <Calinou> Rikairchy, to install what? O_o
#637 [04:57] <Rikairchy> until you get to this screen:
#638 [04:57] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/HjQe
#639 [04:57] <Rikairchy> Calinou: teamviewer
#640 [04:57] <Wolfcub> yeah
#641 [04:57] <Wolfcub> i have it on that
#642 [04:57] <Rikairchy> are you at that screen?
#643 [04:57] <Rikairchy> okay
#644 [04:58] <Rikairchy> time to switch to PM
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#646 [05:10] <Cresent> back
#647 [05:10] <Calinou> front
#648 [05:10] <Cresent> no updating java didn't work
#649 [05:10] <Calinou> Cresent, what's the problem? :P
#650 [05:10] <Cresent> I just baught minecraft, but when I run it then log on, it says driver components mis matched, exit is the only option. how do I fix this?
#651 [05:11] <lemon-rev> cresent did you get a green bar with files downloading
#652 [05:11] <Calinou> update your video card drivers without using windows update.
#653 [05:11] <Cresent> yes
#654 [05:11] <Calinou> what's the brand of your graphics card?
#655 [05:11] <Cresent> then it finished, and displayed the error message
#656 [05:11] <Cresent> Nvidia
#657 [05:11] <Cresent> and already did that
#658 [05:12] <Calinou> ?? gpu/nvidia
#659 [05:12] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#660 [05:12] <Calinou> ^ did you install drivers using this?
#661 [05:12] <Cresent> no
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#663 [05:12] <Rikairchy> it was, as I thought
#664 [05:13] <Cresent> I right clicked computer>properties>change settings, etc.
#665 [05:13] <Rikairchy> so no
#666 [05:13] <Rikairchy> you didn't
#667 [05:13] <Cresent> ok what driver am I looking for?
#668 [05:14] <Rikairchy> the one for your video card
#669 [05:14] <Cresent> .......
#670 [05:14] <Rikairchy> there should be an option there to do it automatically
#671 [05:14] <Rikairchy> on nVidia's site
#672 [05:14] <Cresent> I am not a smart computer person
#673 [05:14] <Rikairchy> thats what the autodetect is for ;)
#674 [05:14] <Cresent> I have no idea what I need
#675 [05:14] <Cresent> I see
#676 [05:14] <Rikairchy> go to the nVidia page
#677 [05:14] <Rikairchy> that VoxelHead linked
#678 [05:14] <Rikairchy> under option 2
#679 [05:14] <Rikairchy> click the button saying "Graphics Drivers"
#680 [05:15] <Cresent> I realised that
#681 [05:15] <Cresent> it's scanning now
#682 [05:16] <Rikairchy> ROFL.
#683 [05:16] <Cresent> ok it's downloading now
#684 [05:17] <Cresent> dammit, My internet is almost out
#685 [05:17] <Rikairchy> D:
#686 [05:17] <Cresent> 1.81 Gb left
#687 [05:17] <Rikairchy> whens the 1.3 update supposed to be out :(
#688 [05:18] <Necrodoom> 1st august
#689 [05:20] <Cresent> still downloading -.-
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#694 [05:27] <Cresent> ok, Installing driver now
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#697 [05:33] <Guest> Hi all! I wish to re-install Minecraft on my Windows 7. However, I can´t acces the AppData folder directly, only through searching my C:. Within the AppData folder, I can´t see the .minecraft. I can only find the .minecraft folder through searching C:, but that way I can´t delete it.
#698 [05:34] <Andrio> Did you type %appdata% in the Run box?
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#700 [05:35] <Guest> I have Windows 7, so I don´t know where to find the Run box.
#701 [05:36] <Andrio> There's a Run option on the Start menu.
#702 [05:36] <Andrio> Or hold down the Windows logo key and press R.
#703 [05:37] <Guest> Oh! I just figured out a way to delete the file. Thanks anyway! *poofs*
#704 [05:42] <Rikairchy> could also enable the showing of hidden files/folders
#705 [05:45] <Guest> Hmm, re-installing the game didn´t solve my problem. When I play Minecraft, at some point it will start to occasionally freeze, then run again, then freeze, etc. making the game unplayable...
#706 [05:51] <Guest> I´ve checked my RAM usage, and it´s at 4020mb, so that should be good, right?
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#708 [05:56] <Calinou> Guest, your computer is swapping to disk, probably, you could try allocating less ram
#709 [05:56] <Calinou> also to access %appdata%: windows+R, type in %appdata%
#710 [05:56] <Calinou> > run menu
#711 [06:02] <Guest> Would allocating less RAM solve the problem of my game freezing up after a short time of play?
#712 [06:02] <libraryaddict> no.
#713 [06:02] <Calinou> yes, because your computer will not swap to disk, which is very slow
#714 [06:02] <Calinou> libraryaddict, explain why?
#715 [06:03] <libraryaddict> Oh
#716 [06:03] <libraryaddict> I was in the wrong place
#717 [06:03] <libraryaddict> Sorry
#718 [06:03] <libraryaddict> Thought I was in a different place >.>
#719 [06:03] <libraryaddict> Thought I was in a different place >.>
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#721 [06:03] <TheNoodle> wat
#722 [06:03] <Calinou> libraryaddict was in the wrong place.
#723 [06:03] <Guest> But wouldn´t that make my others games slow? Or affect the performance of my laptop otherwise?
#724 [06:04] <Calinou> Guest, no, it'll be fine
#725 [06:04] <Guest> It´s always scary to mess with your beloved laptops inside siftware. ;)
#726 [06:05] <Guest> How much lower woudl you advice?
#727 [06:05] <Calinou> hold on, I'm making a full guide about allocating less RAM
#728 [06:07] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com/kMuYdYtt
#729 [06:10] <Guest> My game also says I have a 32 bit Java player, even though I updated to a 64 one. I´ve re-installed the game after. Could that be of influence?
#730 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> 384 meg i what I'd advise for an vanilla game of Minecraft
#731 [06:15] <Calinou> maybe, but you can get "out of memory"
#732 [06:15] <Calinou> hold on, I'll edit the paste so that it uses 512M
#733 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> Yep, 512 is good for when textures packs and/or mods are used.
#734 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, here we go. The memory section of the speed optimization guide as similar guidelines http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/#cl
#735 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> For the record, I've been playing at least 8 hours of minecraft per day on 256 meg with no troubles
#736 [06:18] <Calinou> heh, nice
#737 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> I just found a stronghold yesterday, and discovered that you should not get in to a large battle with silverfish when there is lava around you, being held back by stone walls :)
#738 [06:29] <Calinou> silverfish are easy peasy to kill, except when the server is lagging
#739 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, silverfish are very easy to kill. It's when their bretheran spawn from blocks that used to be retaining walls for lava, when things get interesting
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#749 [07:23] <Scrawl> erm.. I'm new to IRC and to modding minecraft but I would really appreciate it if you could help me. I've been trying to install TerraFirmaCraft for me and my younger brother for the last two days and failed miserably.
#750 [07:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#751 [07:23] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#752 [07:23] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#753 [07:24] <Scrawl> I'm really sorry, I'll go now
#754 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> There's a #tfcraft channel for them though
#755 [07:24] <Scrawl> okay I might try it later, I'm currently discussing it on their forums too
#756 [07:24] <Scrawl> thanks
#757 [07:25] <DiskDaemon> Okay - you'll find reference to #tfcraft on their recent posting too, at http://www.terrafirmacraft.com/state-of-the-mod-june/
#758 [07:25] <Scrawl> ah yes
#759 [07:25] <Scrawl> ah yes
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#764 [07:54] <Rikairchy> hey DiskDaemon
#765 [07:54] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#766 [07:54] <Rikairchy> would you be upset/irritated if i copied everything you said?
#767 [07:54] <Rikairchy> ;D
#768 [07:54] <DiskDaemon> An attribution would be nice
#769 [07:54] <Rikairchy> ?
#770 [07:55] <Rikairchy> and so it starts
#771 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> What have I said that's being copied?
#772 [07:55] <Rikairchy> What have I said that's being copied?
#773 [07:55] * GreyVulpine coughs
#773 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> Rikairchy's a derp.
#774 [07:55] <Rikairchy> Rikairchy's a derp.
#775 [07:56] <Rikairchy> >.>
#776 [07:56] <Rikairchy> :D
#777 [07:56] <Rikairchy> hi GreyVulpine
#778 [07:56] <Rikairchy> nothin to uh...
#779 [07:56] <Rikairchy> see here.
#780 [07:56] <Andrio> lol
#781 [07:56] * Rikairchy slowly turns, then runs quickly
#781 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#782 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Feeling like telling someone off here?
#783 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Have a free kick
#784 [07:56] <Rikairchy> :D
#785 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> Oh look, nicely done there :)
#786 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> !k Rikairchy For the cause
#787 [07:56] * GreyBot kicked Rikairchy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ikairchy :<Kicks:930>)
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#789 [07:57] <Rikairchy> 9001 kicks achieved!
#790 [07:57] * DiskDaemon gives GreyVulpine a cookie
#790 [07:59] * Rikairchy poisons GreyVulpine's cookie
#790 [08:00] * Necrodoom summons a lich
#790 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> Please try to not disturb the ops
#791 [08:01] * Rikairchy gets ready for work
#791 [08:01] * Rikairchy distrurbs DiskDaemon instead
#791 [08:01] <Rikairchy> I just got back from PT so I'm all hyper
#792 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> You'll disturb me more if you want to get a 127MB graphics card workig with Minecraft
#793 [08:02] <Rikairchy> its not really the graphics card
#794 [08:02] <Rikairchy> as long as its openGL capable
#795 [08:02] <Rikairchy> it'll work.
#796 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> "But it worked before when using my cracked version" *twitch*
#797 [08:02] <Rikairchy> its the processor
#798 [08:02] <Rikairchy> minecraft isn't a graphics intensive game
#799 [08:02] <Rikairchy> its a processor-instensive game
#800 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Tell that to the people still using 2mb Riva TNTs.
#801 [08:10] <Morrolan> It's using up half of my rather modern GPU, I'd say that is kinda graphics-intensive.
#802 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Or the latest intel HD graphics chipset.
#803 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Or SiS/S3 chipsets.
#804 [08:13] <Morrolan> To be fair though, those people will have troubles with any game newer than pinball 2000. ;)
#805 [08:13] <Calinou> <Rikairchy> minecraft isn't a graphics intensive game
#806 [08:13] <Calinou> <Rikairchy> its a processor-instensive game
#807 [08:13] <Calinou> both
#808 [08:13] * GreyVulpine snrks
#808 [08:15] <Necrodoom> aswell as idiot instensive (points at "OMG HEROBRINE" posts)
#809 [08:16] <Rikairchy> weird
#810 [08:16] <Rikairchy> it uses almost none of my GPU
#811 [08:16] <Calinou> and "I'm not a computer guy", which is #minecrafthelp's motto
#812 [08:16] <Rikairchy> I do see an increase in CPU usage though >.>
#813 [08:16] <Calinou> Rikairchy, how are you measuring it?
#814 [08:16] <Rikairchy> lol Calinou
#815 [08:16] <Rikairchy> this morning
#816 [08:16] <Rikairchy> Calinou: using a linux tool a friend recommended me
#817 [08:17] <Rikairchy> idr the name
#818 [08:17] <Rikairchy> im on windows atm
#819 [08:17] <Morrolan> Can't say anything about Linux, but MSI Afterburner shows >50% usage, and the fan sure sounds as if it would get rather warm.
#820 [08:17] <Rikairchy> wow
#821 [08:17] <Morrolan> (On a Radeon HD 6970)
#822 [08:19] <Rikairchy> ahh
#823 [08:19] <Rikairchy> !
#824 [08:19] <Rikairchy> this ROM lied.
#825 [08:19] <Rikairchy> it said it was a jb ROM.
#826 [08:19] <Rikairchy> its 4.0.3
#827 [08:25] <Calinou> lol?
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#829 [08:28] <Morrolan> You lost me at ROM, Rikairchy.
#830 [08:28] <Rikairchy> for an android phone
#831 [08:28] <Morrolan> Ah, okay, so I was thinking about the right kind of ROM.
#832 [08:29] * Calinou roms Rikairchy
#832 [08:29] <Rikairchy> >.>
#833 [08:29] * Rikairchy rams clarjon1
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#834 [08:49] <davis> hello, anyone can help me? I can't buy minecraft via paypal :(
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#836 [08:53] <DiskDaemon> davis: Sure, we can try to help
#837 [08:53] <davis> DiskDaemon, what do you need to know? or is there any other site where i can get minecraft via paypal?
#838 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> What is the trouble you are having with paypal?
#839 [08:59] <davis> DiskDaemon, never mind, it is working now (tried 5x before and now its working) thanks anyway
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#846 [09:29] <mattis> hi can someone help me wit something?
#847 [09:29] <omg> `/win4
#848 [09:29] <mattis> hello plz help me
#849 [09:30] <mattis> are anyone there?
#850 [09:30] <Andrio> What do you need help with?
#851 [09:30] <Morrolan> Just state your question, and someone will repsond, if possible
#852 [09:31] <Morrolan> respond*
#853 [09:31] <mattis> i can't join servers
#854 [09:31] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to join a server?
#855 [09:31] <mattis> onley hungergames but not regular servers i find
#856 [09:31] <mattis> on this webb page http://minecraft-server-list.com/
#857 [09:31] <Morrolan> Try minecraft.lethal-zone.eu , to make sure that those servers you tried aren't down
#858 [09:31] <mattis> when i try it says bad login
#859 [09:32] <mattis> faild to log in conection lost
#860 [09:33] <Morrolan> Did you install any mods which might interfere?
#861 [09:33] <mattis> no mods instaalled
#862 [09:33] <Morrolan> And, on the server I asked you to join, you get the same issue?
#863 [09:34] <mattis> same
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#865 [09:34] <mattis> it says 3/32 online but i can't join just connection lost failed to log in
#866 [09:34] <Morrolan> How odd. Try to force an update, in case any files are messed up: Start the launcher -> Options -> Force update, then log in as usual and retry.
#867 [09:35] <mattis> now it is down
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#869 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> mattis: You were saying that you can connect to some servers?
#870 [09:35] <mattis> trying
#871 [09:35] <mattis> hungergames
#872 [09:36] <mattis> now it worked after update
#873 [09:36] <Morrolan> Well, seems the force update solved it.
#874 [09:36] <Morrolan> I guess there was some messed up file then. :)
#875 [09:36] <mattis> ye probobly thanks for everything
#876 [09:36] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#877 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> A messed up fine resulting in a bad login? How odd.
#878 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> s/n/l
#879 [09:37] <mattis> is it ok to play here?
#880 [09:37] <Morrolan> Well, take a look at that server, maybe you'll like it, maybe you don't. :)
#881 [09:37] <Morrolan> If you don't like it, there's loads of other servers out there.
#882 [09:38] <mattis> i am looking around but don't find out :P
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#884 [09:50] <cincinikan> hey bot
#885 [09:50] <cincinikan> i cant go in all the server
#886 [09:50] <cincinikan> it says that the server is probably down
#887 [09:51] <cincinikan> but actually its not
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#889 [09:51] <|Kiichan|> server ip please? *beep*
#890 [09:51] <cincinikan> my friends were playing there
#891 [09:51] <cincinikan> i tried all the servers
#892 [09:52] <cincinikan> but it said that the server is probably down
#893 [09:52] <|Kiichan|> then youre probably typoing it...
#894 [09:52] <|Kiichan|> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#895 [09:53] <|Kiichan|> whats the actual error it gives when you try to connect?
#896 [09:53] <cincinikan> its connecting
#897 [09:54] <cincinikan> but in a sec
#898 [09:54] <cincinikan> connecting failed
#899 [09:54] <cincinikan> server is proably down
#900 [09:54] <cincinikan> *probably
#901 [09:54] <cincinikan> it always show that
#902 [09:55] <cincinikan> got any idea?
#903 [09:56] <|Kiichan|> can you connect to mc.minecraftirc.net?
#904 [09:56] <cincinikan> "failed to connect" "you failed to connect to the server." "It's probably down"
#905 [09:56] <cincinikan> nop
#906 [09:56] <cincinikan> i cant
#907 [09:57] <|Kiichan|> whats your mc username?
#908 [09:57] <cincinikan> cincinikan
#909 [09:57] <|Kiichan|> !paid cincinikan
#910 [09:57] <cincinikan> lool
#911 [09:57] * |Kiichan| points at that
#911 [09:57] <cincinikan> is that matter?
#912 [09:57] <cincinikan> i think no
#913 [09:57] <|Kiichan|> yes.
#914 [09:57] <|Kiichan|> go buy the game
#915 [09:58] <cincinikan> because my friend is also ftp
#916 [09:59] <cincinikan> !paid kiichan
#917 [09:59] <cincinikan> lol
#918 [09:59] <|Kiichan|> actually.. kiichan isnt my mc username
#919 [09:59] <cincinikan> k lol
#920 [09:59] <|Kiichan|> !paid sennyotai
#921 [09:59] <Necrodoom> !paid notch
#922 [10:00] <|Kiichan|> necro.. i wouldnt do that :P
#923 [10:02] <cincinikan> !paid Coolguy6318
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#935 [10:46] <claude> anyone else having problems logging into minecraft?
#936 [10:46] <claude> onto servers, that is?
#937 [10:46] <|Kiichan|> !login
#938 [10:46] <claude> hmm... ty
#939 [10:47] <|Kiichan|> thelogin servers are fine.. might just be that one server
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#948 [11:22] <Rokas> Is here warfar?
#949 [11:23] <Rokas> is somebody member?
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#952 [11:28] <Rokas> Hello all.
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#955 [11:31] <Mike_> My name is Mike and I have been a Minecraft player since early Beta, and I haven't had any problems with it until a couple of weeks ago when I tried to log in. When I opened up the Minecraft launcher, there was a gray screen with coding at the top in place of the information about updates. I didn't think this was too big of a deal so I tried logging in, I pressed the enter key and it said that it was logging in but it just k
#956 [11:32] <Mike_> quit out of Minecraft and tried logging in again and the same thing happened. I tried leaving it to log in for an entire day but it never did, I searched all over the internet for possible help but it seemed that no one had the same problem as me,vI tried re-downloading the game, I tried deleting my bin folder but nothing happened. Just for some information, I run on a mac and I have not tried installing any mods or texture
#957 [11:32] <Mike_> is fine, I have waited weeks so I know that it is not a server error. Please help me in any way that you can
#958 [11:34] <Mike_> hello?
#959 [11:34] <lutzee> Mike_, you have the problem where java is defaulting to IPv6
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#961 [11:35] <lutzee> minecraft servers will only recognise IPv4
#962 [11:35] <lutzee> give me a minute to find the appropriate artivle
#963 [11:35] <Mike_> How do I fixit?
#964 [11:37] <lutzee> Mike_, read this http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/page__st__20#entry15934547
#965 [11:38] <lutzee> ?? java/ipv6
#966 [11:38] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#967 [11:38] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#968 [11:40] <Rokas> Hello all
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#970 [11:40] <Rokas> Is somebody member or working in minecraft.net?
#971 [11:41] <Mike_> But this whole time I have been running minecraft perfectly and nothing has changed and all of a sudden, this happens
#972 [11:45] <Rokas> Mike?
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#974 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> Rokas: We're all community volunteers, nobody here works for Mojang
#975 [11:45] <Rokas> So nobody can help me how can i change email of my minecraft.net profile?
#976 [11:45] <longbyte1> Hello, where exactly is writable book information stored?
#977 [11:45] <longbyte1> Oh yes, rokas, your e-mail is permanent.
#978 [11:46] <|Kiichan|> i think book info is stored in their own files.
#979 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> Rokas: You can't change your email of your minecraft account, but when you migrate your account to Mojang Accounts you have the option of picking another address for logging in
#980 [11:48] <Rokas> but i buyed game from friend and there still friends email, i am scared that he pushes button forgot password and he will get new password in HIS email
#981 [11:49] <|Kiichan|> sit with him and change the email over to you. migration will make it so the contact email is change to you
#982 [11:49] <|Kiichan|> i eman.. changing email account after migration
#983 [11:49] <Rokas> But if he is not my friend longer or he is not in my country and i dont know his mobile number or skype?
#984 [11:50] <|Kiichan|> then you can only hope he OK's the chane or something
#985 [11:51] <Rokas> :/, i want to buy my privat account but my mom dont let me because she thinks that is spam, so i dont hace credit card and i cant pay with mobile :/
#986 [11:51] <|Kiichan|> mojang does nothign with your email account. its only used for account login
#987 [11:53] <Rokas> No i mean listen " Is my friend click on the Forgot Password button there will be writed ( We have send you the password to the email you registered ) and he registered with that email and he can change password then
#988 [11:53] <Rokas> You understand that i buyed game from him
#989 [11:54] <|Kiichan|> he can if he so chooses. the only way to change the email from his to yours is to first migrate, then do the email change. that woudl require you beign in contact with him for atleast 2 emails
#990 [11:54] <Rokas> can you do it via team viewer?
#991 [11:55] <|Kiichan|> no because its HIS email you need access to. to get the confirmation links
#992 [11:55] <Rokas> hes email is martin@hoel.biz and i think what is his password but where the hell can i find the email site like this, his name is Martin and aftername is Hoel :D
#993 [11:56] <Rokas> i search in google, email biz, nothink comes
#994 [11:58] <Rokas> somebody knows where can i find person that is member or working in minecraft.net company? would bee nice to speak to him.
#995 [11:58] <|Kiichan|> they wouldnt change the email for you by hand.
#996 [11:58] <Rokas> Yes, that it. Where can i speak with theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem
#997 [11:58] <|Kiichan|> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#998 [11:59] * |Kiichan| shrugs
#998 [11:59] * |Kiichan| goes back to zombie appocalypse of minez
#998 [11:59] <Rokas> Aisqu
#999 [12:04] <Rokas> So fu3k my d1ck :DD
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#1001 [12:04] <|Kiichan|> sooo... troll or braindead?
#1002 [12:07] <longbyte1> Hey, I'm making a map.
#1003 [12:07] <longbyte1> How do I change the author of a book?
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#1005 [12:09] <|Kiichan|> longbyte1: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1189266-books-guide-tips-and-hacks/
#1006 [12:09] <|Kiichan|> scroll down to 'how to actually hack books'
#1007 [12:11] <Morrolan> Apart from NBTEdit there's also dedicated editors: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1202590-revise-edit-signed-books-w-more-options-all-os-12w17a/
#1008 [12:15] <LilLucy> NTBedit <3
#1009 [12:17] <Morrolan> They save love makes blind. Seeing as how LilLucy wrote NTB instead of NBT this actually seems to be the case.
#1010 [12:17] <LilLucy> Lol
#1011 [12:18] * LilLucy hugs Morrolan
#1011 [12:18] <LilLucy> Sorry Im half asleep
#1012 [12:18] * Morrolan hugs LilLucy
#1012 [12:18] <Morrolan> Huh? It's like 18:00 xP
#1013 [12:18] <LilLucy> Yeah but Im tired and stressed x_x
#1014 [12:18] <Morrolan> Ah.
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#1016 [12:18] <Morrolan> Then take a nap. :D
#1017 [12:19] <LilLucy> No thanks
#1018 [12:19] <LilLucy> lol
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#1020 [12:33] <GodWarsKills> If i buy the minecraft game and when i run the server do people have to have a preimum account to play my server?
#1021 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1022 [12:34] <GodWarsKills> can i configure it different? so they dont have to?
#1023 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Sure, but that's at your own risk
#1024 [12:35] <GodWarsKills> what you mean risk?
#1025 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> By turning off nickname authentication, which is what you're asking, anybody who pirated minecraft can join with any nickname they want. If you put yourself on the ops list, guess what, they can join with your name, and have ops.
#1026 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Again, at your own risk
#1027 [12:36] <GodWarsKills> i sorta figured thats what you meant
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#1029 [12:38] <joe> hello
#1030 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Hello
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#1039 [13:23] <Gold> guys, i have a problem when running Minecraft.. Like i open it run force update, whens the update about @ 30% it closes automatically
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#1047 [13:45] <mrdragon> What kind of help are we talking about for here? Summing it down could do with someones help setting up the ramdisk so I can use the Ascii Bukkit Menu to transfer back and forth.
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#1049 [13:47] <LilLucy> /join #bukkit for bukkit help
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#1051 [13:55] <_Shaft_Master_> When looking for a dedicated server, does it being vanilla mean it supports mods?
#1052 [13:55] <LilLucy> No
#1053 [13:55] <LilLucy> It means it doesn't use mods
#1054 [13:56] <Calinou> vanilla = no mods, "stock" client/server
#1055 [13:56] <_Shaft_Master_> How does one know that i could put mods on it?
#1056 [13:56] <_Shaft_Master_> like buildcraft
#1057 [13:57] <_Shaft_Master_> like how would i know that it supports that
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#1059 [14:00] <_Shaft_Master_> What is the ideal ammount of ram for a dedicated server that has a few mods and 3-5 people?
#1060 [14:04] <_Shaft_Master_> whatever
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#1062 [14:07] <jo_> can some one help me?
#1063 [14:09] <jo_> my problem is when i try to update minecraft it wont update minecraft.jar and freezes can someone help me with this?
#1064 [14:10] <jo_> anyone?
#1065 [14:10] <jo_> noone
#1066 [14:11] <jo_> okay i just payed for minecraft fo nothing
#1067 [14:11] <jo_> by
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#1069 [14:14] <Dashie> Hey, I am trying to run the web based Minecraft client, and when it loads the java applet, it sits on a white screen. Am I missing something. Ubuntu 12.04 is my OS
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#1071 [14:20] <cinomon> hello
#1072 [14:20] <Calinou> hi
#1073 [14:20] <cinomon> So just got a new laptop downloaded MC and it keeps saying connection timed out
#1074 [14:20] <cinomon> what should I do?
#1075 [14:20] <Calinou> Dashie, use the downloaded client? :P
#1076 [14:20] <Calinou> cinomon, trying to connect to a server?
#1077 [14:21] <cinomon> Can't even get passed the login screen
#1078 [14:21] <Dashie> @Calinou, I can not get the Download client to log in
#1079 [14:21] <Calinou> explain why?
#1080 [14:22] <Calinou> cinomon, are you running AVG or avira antivirus? if so disable the "link scanner" module.
#1081 [14:22] <cinomon> you know I'm not sure
#1082 [14:22] <Dashie> When I try to log in, it says my account doesnt exist, but I can log into the site on the internet
#1083 [14:22] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1084 [14:22] <Calinou> ^ also, read this, cinomon, this might be your problem too.
#1085 [14:22] <Calinou> Dashie, if you migrated your account: log in with your email
#1086 [14:23] <Dashie> I havent migrated my account yet
#1087 [14:23] <Dashie> I am still using just the Minecraft.net account
#1088 [14:24] <Calinou> what error message exactly, when you try to log in with the downloaded client?
#1089 [14:24] <Calinou> there is no "account doesn't exist" error
#1090 [14:24] <Dashie> It says, invalid username or password
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#1092 [14:25] <Calinou> Dashie, did you enable java in your browser's plugins?
#1093 [14:25] <Calinou> are you using proprietary or free video card drivers?
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#1095 [14:25] <Dashie> yes, I can run other java applets
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#1097 [14:25] <sub_> hello
#1098 [14:25] <sub_> anybody here?
#1099 [14:25] <Dashie> And I am not sure what video drivers I am using
#1100 [14:25] <Elystus> yes
#1101 [14:25] <sub_> I can't play MC and I just bought it :(
#1102 [14:26] <Elystus> ??> Dashie win/dxdiag
#1103 [14:26] <sub_> it just gets stuck downloading/updating
#1104 [14:26] <VoxelHead> Dashie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1105 [14:26] <Calinou> Dashie, what is the brand of your graphics card? AMD or nvidia?
#1106 [14:26] <VoxelHead> Dashie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1108 [14:26] <Elystus> Do that and I can get you the proper drivers
#1109 [14:26] <Elystus> sub_: We need more information than that
#1110 [14:26] <Calinou> Elystus, he's on linux
#1111 [14:26] <Calinou> you idiot
#1112 [14:26] <sub_> kk gimme a sec
#1113 [14:26] <Elystus> >_>
#1114 [14:26] * Calinou laughs
#1114 [14:26] * Elystus runs away
#1114 [14:27] <Dashie> I have a intergrated card on my laptop
#1115 [14:27] <Calinou> is your laptop recent?
#1116 [14:27] <Dashie> Not really, I believe it is about 2 years old now
#1117 [14:28] <Calinou> kay... intel drivers are opensourced anyway
#1118 [14:28] <Dashie> But I was able to play Minecraft on it before I updated to 12.04
#1119 [14:28] <Calinou> Dashie, double-check the username/password combination with the downloadable client?
#1120 [14:28] <Calinou> oh
#1121 [14:28] <cinomon> alright so when I open MC usually it tells you recent news and stuff that isnt even there. and my connection contiues to timeout
#1122 [14:28] <Calinou> cinomon, told you: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1123 [14:28] <Calinou> read /carefully/
#1124 [14:30] <Dashie> Okay, the download client when I type in my username and password, it says log in failed, and when I click play offline, it sits on a black screen
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#1126 [14:32] <Elystus> anybody know where to find a good windows 7 virtual machine >_>
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#1130 [14:49] <Guest__> Can you spawn herobrine using the herobrine shaft, or is all of that fake?
#1131 [14:50] <Calinou> no.
#1132 [14:50] <Calinou> herobrine does not exist: http://minecraftwiki.net/Herobrine
#1133 [14:50] <Guest__> Ok
#1134 [14:50] <Guest__> Thanks
#1135 [14:52] <LilLucy> lold
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#1138 [14:56] <_Shaft_Master_> Does this server support mods?
#1139 [14:56] <_Shaft_Master_> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/677679-avante-hosting-cheap-minecraft-servers-instant-setup-usa-starting-at-400month-512mb-ram-bukkit-ssd-self-operated-network/
#1140 [14:57] <xales> _Shaft_Master_: You would have to ask them that.
#1141 [14:57] <xales> It appears they support "most Bukkit plugins," whatever that means.
#1142 [14:58] <_Shaft_Master_> So theres no way of telling without asking them?
#1143 [14:58] <xales> That is what I said, yes.
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#1145 [14:59] <_Shaft_Master_> Do have any dedicated server suggestions?
#1146 [14:59] <xales> When you say "dedicated server" do you mean "lease a physical computer" or "run a Minecraft server that is always available"?
#1147 [15:00] <_Shaft_Master_> I mean pay for a server to be run for me
#1148 [15:04] <xales> Go with a large, established company that has been around for a while.
#1149 [15:04] <xales> The two companies I am personally familiar with are Allgamer and Multiplay.
#1150 [15:06] <mig> i have been here for 10 days
#1151 [15:06] <_Shaft_Master_> okay. and do they support mods?
#1152 [15:07] <Scott> I work at AllGamer.
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#1154 [15:07] <Scott> By mods do you mean craftbukkit plugins or actual server mods?
#1155 [15:07] <_Shaft_Master_> like buildcraft
#1156 [15:07] <Scott> Ah
#1157 [15:07] <_Shaft_Master_> ill have at most 5 people
#1158 [15:08] <Scott> We don't stop you from using those type of mods but we can't really provide help with them.
#1159 [15:08] <Scott> You just replace the server .jar file and it will work fine though.
#1160 [15:08] <_Shaft_Master_> oh okay.
#1161 [15:08] <_Shaft_Master_> how much ram is recomended for 6 slots
#1162 [15:08] <Scott> A lot of the hosting providers won't allow you to replace the server .jar file.
#1163 [15:09] <Scott> 512mb would be plenty.
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#1165 [15:11] <_Shaft_Master_> is a vps better then dedicated serveR?
#1166 [15:11] <Scott> No but you don't need a dedicated server.
#1167 [15:12] <Scott> I don't even know where you can get one with less than 4GB of RAM these days lol
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#1169 [15:12] <Scott> https://allgamer.net/minecraft-hosting
#1170 [15:12] <nick> cane someone help me
#1171 [15:12] <Scott> The 512mb server should suffice for you.
#1172 [15:13] <Guest90126> can someone help me
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#1174 [15:13] <_Shaft_Master_> okay thanks
#1175 [15:13] <geraldbrent> Sure. State your question Guest90126.
#1176 [15:14] <Guest90126> on my minecraft it will shut down and bring a error up on my desktop
#1177 [15:15] <Guest90126> like a file
#1178 [15:15] <Scott> _Shaft_Master_: Let me know if you have any questions.
#1179 [15:17] <Guest90126> are u there
#1180 [15:19] <Guest90126> what do i do
#1181 [15:19] <Elystus> Guest90126: state your issue
#1182 [15:20] <Guest90126> on my minecraft it will shut down and bring a error up on my desktop
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#1184 [15:20] <xales> ??> Guest90126 error
#1185 [15:20] <VoxelHead> Guest90126: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#1186 [15:20] <VoxelHead> Guest90126: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1187 [15:21] <xales> ??> Guest90126 pastebin
#1188 [15:21] <VoxelHead> Guest90126: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1189 [15:21] <Guest90126> http://pastebin.com/KTA2EGmF
#1190 [15:22] <Elystus> That is a graphics card issue.
#1191 [15:22] <Elystus> You have windows right?
#1192 [15:22] <xales> Elystus: Uhh.
#1193 [15:22] <xales> OS: Windows 95 Build 950
#1194 [15:23] <xales> Guest90126: Minecraft will not run on Windows 95. End of discussion.
#1195 [15:23] <Elystus> Windows 96 o.o
#1196 [15:23] <Elystus> 95*
#1197 [15:23] <Guest90126> i got windows vista
#1198 [15:23] <Elystus> Oh okay, that is better
#1199 [15:23] <Elystus> ??> Guest90126 win/dxdiag
#1200 [15:23] <VoxelHead> Guest90126: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1201 [15:23] <VoxelHead> Guest90126: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1202 [15:24] <Guest90126> ok
#1203 [15:24] <xales> Elystus: Java is running in compatibility mode for some reason; it is also version 7.
#1204 [15:24] <Elystus> Once we get that information, we can get you the appropriate drivers.
#1205 [15:24] <xales> So I'd try fixing that before the driver, as the error is not actually in driver code.
#1206 [15:24] <Elystus> Okay
#1207 [15:25] <Guest90126> here is dxdiag http://pastebin.com/SX1LkRgB
#1208 [15:26] <xales> Guest90126: Uninstall every version of Java you have installed, then go to http://java.com/ and reinstall it.
#1209 [15:27] <Guest90126> ok
#1210 [15:27] <xales> Guest90126: Use this link: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1211 [15:27] <xales> When you are ready to reinstall it.
#1212 [15:31] <Guest90126> ok uninstall them all but one that did not let me unistall java(TM) update 2
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#1215 [15:33] <Guest90126> is there a defrent way to unistal that
#1216 [15:33] <Guest90126> java(TM) update 2
#1217 [15:35] <Guest90126> someone there
#1218 [15:41] <Guest90126> xales u there
#1219 [15:41] <xales> Guest90126: What did it say when you tried to uninstall it?
#1220 [15:42] <Guest90126> i uninstall them but one that did't let me java(TM) update 2
#1221 [15:42] <Guest90126> is there some othere y to uninstall that
#1222 [15:42] <xales> Yes, what did it say when you tried to uninstall it...?
#1223 [15:42] <Guest90126> nothing
#1224 [15:43] <xales> So why can't you uninstall it then?
#1225 [15:43] <Guest90126> it wont pop up uninstall when u click on it
#1226 [15:43] <xales> Close the Programs & Features window and open it again.
#1227 [15:44] <Guest90126> were do i go for features windows
#1228 [15:45] <xales> ...
#1229 [15:46] <xales> The window I instructed you to close is the one you were using to uninstall programs.
#1230 [15:46] <Guest90126> do i go back into uninstall programs
#1231 [15:46] <xales> Yes, and try to uninstall it again.
#1232 [15:46] <Guest90126> 0k
#1233 [15:47] <Guest90126> nop did not work
#1234 [15:47] <xales> Guest90126: Download and run this utility to remove it: http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1235 [15:48] <Guest90126> do i download it
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#1237 [15:49] <Guest90126> nevermind
#1238 [15:49] <Guest90126> u sad download
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#1241 [15:51] <DJ> Hello. I went through the process of purchase with my card, but the screen came up jumbled and I thought it said declined. The second time it came up jumbled, but I'm certain it said declined. That's when I noticed another tab had opened and it said transaction complete and gave me a transaction ID.
#1242 [15:52] <DJ> Soooo Did it go through or not?
#1243 [15:53] <xales> DJ: Try using your account and see if it works.
#1244 [15:54] <DJ> It does not.
#1245 [15:54] <DJ> However the little message does say within the hour it will update. So I'm just not sure if it has happened yet or not.
#1246 [15:55] <xales> DJ: Call your bank and see what, if any, transactions were approved.
#1247 [15:56] <xales> That's the only way to know for sure, other than waiting (it can sometimes take up to 24 hours).
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#1250 [16:01] <DJ> Contacted bank and it is cause you guys are processing through London. So will have it resolved soon. Thank you for the assistance.
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#1258 [16:29] <Guest63435> Quick question, does minecraft pc version support the use of an xbox 360 controller?
#1259 [16:31] <Coll> not natrually
#1260 [16:31] <Coll> but you can however
#1261 [16:31] <Coll> get a program to map the controller to keyboard keys
#1262 [16:31] <Coll> and play it like that
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#1264 [16:32] <Coll> you may not even need the program it might already be on the computer not entirely sure about that
#1265 [16:33] <Guest63435> suppose I'll give xpadder a try, usually native support performs much better xD
#1266 [16:38] <Coll> ive tried xpadder I liked it
#1267 [16:38] <Coll> however never tried mounting the mouse movement to the sticks
#1268 [16:38] <Coll> so good luck on that
#1269 [16:40] <Guest63435> Just found some one on the forums with a config file for xpadder (for minecraft) gonna try that first, would save the hassle:P
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#1271 [17:14] <mib_sidk05> I just bought minecraft and its not letting me sign in. do i have to wait for the payment to clear from my bank?
#1272 [17:15] <Morrolan> In most cases it should be immediate, but it can take 24 hours or, in very rare cases, even longer.
#1273 [17:15] <Morrolan> When you try to sign in though, do you get the "User not premium" error, or a different one?
#1274 [17:16] <mib_sidk05> yes i get the user
#1275 [17:17] <Morrolan> Then there's two possibilities. In case you used a credit card then your provider might have blocked the payment, since it's an international transfer. If this is the case you will have to call the number on the back of your card, and ask them to unlock it for international transfers.
#1276 [17:17] <Morrolan> Alternatively it could be that the payment simply didn't get through yet, in which case you just would have to wait.
#1277 [17:18] <mib_sidk05> ok thank you. thats what i was thinking. my son is so upset lol
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#1279 [17:19] <Guest90126> hello
#1280 [17:21] <Guest90126> xales
#1281 [17:21] <Morrolan> Hello.
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#1283 [17:22] <Guest90126> can someone help me
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#1286 [17:25] <nick123> cane someone help me
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#1289 [17:26] <xales> Only if you say what the problem is. ._.
#1290 [17:30] <nick123> xales i thisthink u help me when i was a guess
#1291 [17:30] <nick123> u told me to uninstall java
#1292 [17:30] <nick123> and reinstall java
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#1294 [17:33] <nick123> u there
#1295 [17:34] <xales> nick123: Yes, but you still haven't said what you need help with.
#1296 [17:34] <nick123> cane someone hel me
#1297 [17:34] <xales> Nobody here is capable of reading your mind.
#1298 [17:34] <nick123> oh lol
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#1300 [17:35] <Alt> how do i wipe my map completely?
#1301 [17:35] <nick123> my minecraft when i play it for 5min and then it will shut down and some error buts up on my desktop
#1302 [17:35] <Alt> (mp server)
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#1304 [17:36] <nick123> my minecraft when i play it for 5min and then it will shut down and some error buts up on my desktop
#1305 [17:37] <Elystus> Can you pastebin the error please
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#1308 [17:38] <nick123> my minecraft when i play it for 5min and then it will shut down and some error buts up on my desktop
#1309 [17:38] <Elystus> nick123: Please post the error on paste bin.
#1310 [17:39] <nick123> http://pastebin.com/KTA2EGmF
#1311 [17:42] <nick123> http://pastebin.com/KTA2EGmF
#1312 [17:43] <Elystus> I believe that the "Problematic frame error
#1313 [17:43] <Elystus> Hit enter eraly XD
#1314 [17:43] <Elystus> early*
#1315 [17:43] <nick123> whats that
#1316 [17:43] <Elystus> it is caused by bad video card drivers. Lets get a dxdiag so we can update your graphics drivers.
#1317 [17:44] <Elystus> ??> nick123 win/dxdiag
#1318 [17:44] <VoxelHead> nick123: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1319 [17:44] <VoxelHead> nick123: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1320 [17:44] <nick123> http://pastebin.com/SX1LkRgB
#1321 [17:44] <nick123> here
#1322 [17:45] <Elystus> has it ever worked before?
#1323 [17:46] <nick123> ya when i got it for free
#1324 [17:46] <Elystus> What version was minecraft in at that time?
#1325 [17:47] <nick123> now i buy it and it dont work at first it was out of memory and the java stop working now this
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#1327 [17:47] <Elystus> I am thinking that your computer may not be able to run minecraft.
#1328 [17:47] <Elystus> But we can try this.
#1329 [17:48] <Elystus> http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista_win7_179.48_beta.html
#1330 [17:48] <Elystus> uninstall your old graphics drivers first.
#1331 [17:48] <nick123> i spent 26.95 and it wont work like rilly wtf\
#1332 [17:48] <nick123> uninstall my grahics card
#1333 [17:48] <nick123> how
#1334 [17:48] <Elystus> We can try to repair it, but I am looking at the specs of your computer and they seem to be border line for the minimum requirements.
#1335 [17:49] <Elystus> To uninstall your graphics card click start and right click on computer and hit properties.
#1336 [17:49] <nick123> how do i uninstall graphics card
#1337 [17:49] <nick123> ok now what
#1338 [17:50] <Elystus> then go to device manager and under display adapters your graphics card will be listed.
#1339 [17:50] <Elystus> right click it and hit uninstall.
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#1341 [17:50] <nick123> i dont see it
#1342 [17:51] <nick123> im in device manager
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#1344 [17:54] <nick123> is this it elystus nvidia geforce 7150m/nforrce 630m
#1345 [17:54] <nick123> uninstall that
#1346 [17:55] <nick123> nvidia geforce 7150m/nforrce 630m
#1347 [17:55] <Elystus> This iswhat you should install after you have uninstalled the old ones: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista_win7_179.48_beta.html
#1348 [17:57] <nick123> hey its telling me to restart my commputer to uninstall it
#1349 [17:57] <Elystus> then restart and rejoin this chat.
#1350 [17:57] <nick123> so ill be back in this name
#1351 [17:57] <Elystus> okay :)
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#1353 [18:00] <Alt> how do i disable monsters or just make them unable to attack
#1354 [18:01] <m0nk> i can't download from minecraft. like texture packs and stuff. can't go further than ad.fly cause it stops me
#1355 [18:01] <Elystus> M0nk: What happens when you wait the 5 seconds and hit skip on ad.fly?
#1356 [18:01] <m0nk> i can't hit skip
#1357 [18:02] <Elystus> Alt: ON a server or in singleplayer?
#1358 [18:02] <m0nk> says block software or something
#1359 [18:02] <Alt> SERVER.
#1360 [18:02] <m0nk> but i have gotten through that thing before using the same extensions as now
#1361 [18:02] <Elystus> okay, then open server.properties and change spawn-monsters to false
#1362 [18:02] <Alt> :D
#1363 [18:02] <Alt> is /tp and /fly commands built into vanilla or will i need bukkit?
#1364 [18:02] <Elystus> m0nk: If you have the adfly links, I can expand them and get you a redirect link.
#1365 [18:03] <m0nk> http://adf.ly/8BNQH
#1366 [18:03] <m0nk> http://adf.ly/8BNVa
#1367 [18:03] <m0nk> doze tu
#1368 [18:03] <Elystus> http://www.mediafire.com/?3fa6112gopztz7y
#1369 [18:04] <Elystus> http://www.mediafire.com/?3fa6112gopztz7y
#1370 [18:04] <m0nk> ty
#1371 [18:04] <m0nk> do i really have to disable extensions and stuff to get it to work? or is it just those links that dont work.
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#1373 [18:05] <Elystus> http://www.mediafire.com/?7x259gdpnps1727
#1374 [18:05] <Elystus> I repeated the same one twice above lol.
#1375 [18:05] <m0nk> lolo ty
#1376 [18:05] <Elystus> The links seem to work. your anti-virus could be blocking the redirect links.
#1377 [18:06] <Alt> is /tp and /fly commands built into vanilla or will i need bukkit?
#1378 [18:06] <Elystus> the command /tp is in vanilla. /fly will probably be a plugin or a mod.
#1379 [18:06] <Elystus> javara
#1380 [18:06] <Elystus> ^ignore the javara >_>
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#1385 [18:22] <nick123> ok im back
#1386 [18:24] <Elystus_> here is the install: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista_win7_179.48_beta.html
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#1388 [18:27] <m0nk> how many mods can i have with the technic launcher if i use modloader for more items?
#1389 [18:27] <Rikairchy> ??> m0nk mods
#1390 [18:27] <VoxelHead> m0nk: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1391 [18:27] <VoxelHead> m0nk: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1392 [18:28] <m0nk> ok need this
#1393 [18:28] <m0nk> http://adf.ly/locked/6sdo1
#1394 [18:28] <m0nk> still wont let me through
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#1396 [18:28] <nick1234> hey
#1397 [18:28] <Elystus> m0nk: https://adf.ly/go/6de2b74835c257bf514de33aa3308a4a/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZWRpYWZpcmUuY29tLz93bG02cWRuNWFlNWp1YWo
#1398 [18:28] <Elystus> Yes nick1234?
#1399 [18:28] <nick1234> is it suppose too make everything big
#1400 [18:29] <Elystus> the uninstall will
#1401 [18:29] <Elystus> when you install the new drivers, it will fix it.
#1402 [18:29] <m0nk> thanx
#1403 [18:29] <nick1234> ok now what do i do becase its srill bige\
#1404 [18:29] <Elystus> here is the install: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista_win7_179.48_beta.html
#1405 [18:29] <Elystus> Install that download
#1406 [18:30] <nick1234> ookk ddoo ii ssaavvee iitt oorr rruunn iitt
#1407 [18:30] <Elystus> save, then run
#1408 [18:30] <nick1234> ok
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#1410 [18:33] <Alt> how do i world save with a command?
#1411 [18:33] <Alt> (mp server)
#1412 [18:33] <Devin> ./save-all
#1413 [18:33] <Wug> /save-all
#1414 [18:34] <Alt> ty
#1415 [18:34] <Morrolan> While you're at it, issue a "/help" and read through it. ;)
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#1419 [18:40] <nick1234> kk
#1420 [18:40] <nick1234> hey what do i do
#1421 [18:40] <nick1234> yes yes to all no no to all or cancel
#1422 [18:41] <Elystus> what is is asking to do?
#1423 [18:43] <nick1234> the following file is already on your computer c:/nvidia/winvista/179.48/is/data1.cap do you wish to overwrite this file
#1424 [18:43] <Elystus> reddyes
#1425 [18:43] <Elystus> yes*
#1426 [18:43] <nick1234> yes or yes ot all
#1427 [18:44] <Elystus> yes to all
#1428 [18:44] <nick1234> ok
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#1431 [18:51] <Rikairchy> i recommended (in #ubuntu) that everyone switch from debian to DOS
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#1433 [18:54] <CrusaderDeleters> A ubuntu DosBox? ^.^
#1434 [18:54] <Christopher> Hey internet, is there a world gen mod for servers that would allow me to replace netherrack/soulsand/glowstone in the Nether with random ores? I have multiverse on my server and want to create a mine world.
#1435 [18:54] <Elystus> DiskDaemon
#1436 [18:55] <m0nk> wich one is the right .jar? the minecraft.jar or the minecraft-1.2.5.jar
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#1439 [18:59] <nick1234> ok
#1440 [18:59] <nick1234> i download it
#1441 [18:59] <nick1234> and restart my computer
#1442 [18:59] <Elystus> it should work now
#1443 [18:59] <nick1234> no its back to normal
#1444 [19:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Remember guys: Everyone is wrong.
#1445 [19:00] <Elystus> still get the problematic frame>?
#1446 [19:00] <nick1234> so how can i check and see if it work
#1447 [19:00] <Elystus> run minecraft
#1448 [19:00] <nick1234> see if its download it
#1449 [19:01] <Elystus> is the resolution back to normal?
#1450 [19:01] <nick1234> ok im runing mincraft
#1451 [19:01] <nick1234> ya
#1452 [19:01] <Elystus> Okay, then it installed.
#1453 [19:01] <nick1234> its small now back to normal
#1454 [19:01] <Elystus> Now, is minecraft working?
#1455 [19:02] <nick1234> its not poping up the lunch pag
#1456 [19:02] <nick1234> page
#1457 [19:02] <nick1234> when i click on it it says run and then i click run then it do do nothing els
#1458 [19:02] <Elystus> ?
#1459 [19:03] <Elystus> try in browser.
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#1461 [19:03] <nick1234> do u thing i should delete it and try reinstalling it
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#1463 [19:04] <Elystus> I would try running minecraft in browser
#1464 [19:04] <nick1234> ya but its not going to work becase
#1465 [19:04] <nick1234> i dont wont to get in trouble if i tell u
#1466 [19:05] <Elystus> I see >_>
#1467 [19:05] <nick1234> iwold u get me in trouble
#1468 [19:05] <Elystus> You will not get in trouble, however I will not help you further.
#1469 [19:05] <nick1234> i got mods
#1470 [19:05] <Elystus> oh just mods?
#1471 [19:05] <Elystus> not a cracked client?
#1472 [19:05] <nick1234> ya'
#1473 [19:05] <nick1234> no just mods
#1474 [19:06] <Elystus> Mods are fine lol.
#1475 [19:06] <Elystus> I would try doing a complete reinstall of minecraft
#1476 [19:06] <nick1234> lol ok just makeing sure\
#1477 [19:06] <Elystus> ??> nick1234 win/reisnt
#1478 [19:06] <Elystus> ??> nick1234 win/reinst
#1479 [19:06] <VoxelHead> nick1234: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1480 [19:06] <Christopher> Hey guys, any idea what mod I'd need to use to replace netherrack, soulsand, and glowstone for world generation on a server?
#1481 [19:06] <VoxelHead> nick1234: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1482 [19:07] <Christopher> (I'd assume I'd have to get creative with Phoenix Terrain Mod?)
#1483 [19:08] <nick1234> when i type in %appdata% it opens choose the program you wont to use to open this fail
#1484 [19:09] <Elystus> O.o
#1485 [19:09] <Alt> how can i customize what appears in my /help menu?
#1486 [19:09] <Elystus> Alt: That requires plugins
#1487 [19:09] <nick1234> file
#1488 [19:09] <Elystus> nick1234: Something is seriously messed up with your windows 7 installation....
#1489 [19:09] <Elystus> try creating a new user and trying then.
#1490 [19:09] <nick1234> lol
#1491 [19:09] <Elystus> on the new user's account.
#1492 [19:10] <nick1234> oh it works then
#1493 [19:10] <nick1234> i try it
#1494 [19:10] <Elystus> Something happened to that account. :/
#1495 [19:10] <nick1234> what happened
#1496 [19:11] <Elystus> No idea, but the fact that its says %appdata% doesn't exist is not good.
#1497 [19:11] <Elystus> You said it works in a new account correct?
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#1499 [19:12] <nick1234> so lol if i make a new user wold i have to redownload the graphics card
#1500 [19:12] <Elystus> no, that is system wide.
#1501 [19:12] <nick1234> so u says make a ne account
#1502 [19:12] <Elystus> make a new windows account
#1503 [19:13] <nick1234> ok wold my minecraft save stuff will be there
#1504 [19:13] <Elystus> no, that is account based.
#1505 [19:13] <Elystus> you will need to redownload minecraft
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#1507 [19:14] <nick1234> ok i just did it
#1508 [19:14] <nick1234> do i go there
#1509 [19:14] <Christopher> What's an average upload/download speed for a dedicated minecraft server?
#1510 [19:14] <nick1234> and then come back herre
#1511 [19:14] <Rikairchy> average being decent?
#1512 [19:14] <Rikairchy> or what?
#1513 [19:14] <Rikairchy> it all depends
#1514 [19:15] <Christopher> I suppose decent.
#1515 [19:15] <Elystus> nick1234: you can log on to this on the other account.
#1516 [19:15] <Rikairchy> I host four seperate ones on a 100mbit dedi connection
#1517 [19:15] <Rikairchy> along with a few website, BNCs, and fileservers
#1518 [19:15] <Rikairchy> sites*
#1519 [19:15] * Elystus steals Rikairchy's internet
#1519 [19:15] <Rikairchy> not from home
#1520 [19:15] <Rikairchy> its in a DC :P
#1521 [19:15] <Christopher> Ah.
#1522 [19:15] <Elystus> Oh lol.
#1523 [19:16] <Christopher> So what could be expected from a home server?
#1524 [19:17] <nick1234> so do i go to that account and come back here
#1525 [19:18] <Elystus> yea
#1526 [19:18] <nick1234> ok
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#1528 [19:20] <molajuwon> hello?
#1529 [19:21] <Elystus> o/
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#1534 [19:26] <nick1234> ok
#1535 [19:26] <nick1234> im on the new account
#1536 [19:27] <Elystus> can you run minecraft?
#1537 [19:27] <nick1234> oh i got to download it
#1538 [19:27] <Elystus> yep ;)
#1539 [19:28] <nick1234> wold i still have my server
#1540 [19:28] <Elystus> You could copy the files over
#1541 [19:29] <nick1234> oh ok
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#1543 [19:30] <nick1234> no it dont work
#1544 [19:30] <molajuwon> how can i change my email on my minecraft account?
#1545 [19:30] <nick1234> it wont open to the lounch pad
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#1547 [19:31] <nick1234> nevermind it open
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#1551 [19:31] <Divingwind> I'm having trouble runnning minecraft, i get a message that it can't find the java location and not sure how to fix that
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#1553 [19:33] <Elystus> nick1234: does it work on that account?
#1554 [19:33] <nick1234> ya its open
#1555 [19:33] <Elystus> molajuwon: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1556 [19:34] <Elystus> nick1234: So the problem is with the other account. I would suggest just moving to the new account.
#1557 [19:34] <nick1234> i will
#1558 [19:34] <nick1234> i try %appdata% and it open
#1559 [19:34] <Elystus> Divingwind: Can you give us a complete explanation of what is happening?
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#1561 [19:36] <nick1234> elystus i try %appdata% and it open
#1562 [19:36] <Elystus> Thats good, it jsut confirms that the other account is where the issue lies.
#1563 [19:36] <Divingwind> one moment its loading updates now
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#1565 [19:37] <nick1234> so is that all
#1566 [19:37] <Elystus> If minecraft works now, then that is all :)
#1567 [19:37] <nick1234> ya i got it open i just have no severs or saves
#1568 [19:38] <nick1234> so ty for all you help elystus
#1569 [19:38] <Divingwind> hold on looks fishy
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#1571 [19:38] <Elystus> Your welcome nick1234
#1572 [19:38] <Divingwind> i was pretty sure there was a problem but it was after the update it happened
#1573 [19:39] <Elystus> Divingwind: ?
#1574 [19:39] <Divingwind> yes
#1575 [19:39] <Elystus> Divingwind: What exactly is going in?
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#1577 [19:39] <MCServerFail> Hi im looking for help to set up my minecraft server so that my friends can play on it with me.
#1578 [19:40] <MCServerFail> Can anyone help?
#1579 [19:40] <ebega77> i have a method of payement problem can some one help please?
#1580 [19:40] <Elystus> MCServerFail: what do you need?
#1581 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> ebega77: Sure, we can try.
#1582 [19:40] <Elystus> ebega77: What is the problem?
#1583 [19:40] <Elystus> Hey Disk! :D
#1584 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> o\
#1585 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> morning
#1586 [19:40] <Elystus> I tested java :)
#1587 [19:40] <Elystus> Nothing failed :/
#1588 [19:40] <MCServerFail> Well I have tried to port forward and that didn't work and I have also used hamachi to join once but it hasn't worked since
#1589 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, what were your findings?
#1590 [19:41] <Elystus> 5 diffrent java versions and 5 diffrent windows installs....
#1591 [19:41] <ebega77> when i go to purchase the game it askes for country i choose united states and method of payment i choose american express
#1592 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> ebega77: American express cannot be used for payment. Unfortunately, its an error showing it as a payment method on there.
#1593 [19:41] <ebega77> oohhh ok
#1594 [19:42] <MCServerFail> Can anyone help me with my problem? I'm pretty much exausted of ideas.
#1595 [19:43] <AuroraTree> Mmm?
#1596 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: What problem is that?
#1597 [19:43] <AuroraTree> I think it's something to do with his server :>
#1598 [19:43] <MCServerFail> Yes, I cant get other peope to connect to me
#1599 [19:43] <MCServerFail> people
#1600 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: What is your local and your external IP?
#1601 [19:44] <AuroraTree> Have you port forwarded?
#1602 [19:44] <MCServerFail> Yes i have port forwarded. Whether or not i did it correctly is another thing entirely
#1603 [19:44] <Elystus> ;ip MCServerFail
#1604 [19:44] <WugBot> IP address of MCServerFail is: 68.114.21.90
#1605 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: First let's check to see if your server is actually working. Then we can test other things.
#1606 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: What is your local IP?
#1607 [19:45] <ebega77> when i go to paypal and i swich it to english it shows i have to pay in Euros but im from the U.S. dose it matter?
#1608 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> That above is your external IP. Let's work on your local IP first.
#1609 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> ebega77: The funds will be automatically converted for you
#1610 [19:45] <ebega77> ok thanks alot diskdaemon
#1611 [19:46] <MCServerFail> 192.168.2.101
#1612 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Do you know how to find out what your local IP address is?
#1613 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> Ahh good.
#1614 [19:46] <MCServerFail> :)
#1615 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Are you able to successfully connect to your server using your local IP address?
#1616 [19:46] <MCServerFail> I think so, let me check
#1617 [19:47] <MCServerFail> The only one that lets me join is the one that is listed on my hamachi
#1618 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Hamachi creates several other problems which we don't deal with here
#1619 [19:48] <MCServerFail> Alright then how do I do it with the way that you know how to deal with? lol
#1620 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Is the minecraft server running on the same computer that you are now using ?
#1621 [19:49] <MCServerFail> Yes
#1622 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> We can use ipconfig to check and find out what your ipv4 local address is. Do you know how to use that?
#1623 [19:50] <MCServerFail> I know where to find it
#1624 [19:50] <MCServerFail> I'm not sure what to do with it
#1625 [19:51] <MCServerFail> my ipv4 local address is 192.168.2.101
#1626 [19:51] <MCServerFail> my default gateway is 192.168.2.1
#1627 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> Good. Are you able to see the server on 192.168.2.101 ?
#1628 [19:52] <MCServerFail> nope
#1629 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> Lets start from a known good setup for the server then. Please close down the server and delete the server.properties file
#1630 [19:53] <MCServerFail> alright i have done that
#1631 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Also, go on to your firewall and remove any settings that relate to java.
#1632 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> In fact, for testing purposes - please disable your firewall for this part of testing
#1633 [19:55] <MCServerFail> alright i have done that
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#1635 [19:55] <DarkRegion32> hello
#1636 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Okay, start up the server and check it again
#1637 [19:56] <DarkRegion32> i have a question about mod loader
#1638 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#1639 [19:56] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1640 [19:56] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1641 [19:56] <MCServerFail> ??
#1642 [19:57] <MCServerFail> Okay I was able to reach the server
#1643 [19:57] <MCServerFail> on 192.168.2.101
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#1645 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> Good one. Now close down the server, and go back to the firewall and enable that, then bring the server back up again.
#1646 [19:58] <Rhapsodyy> Hi all, wondering if any1 could help me. Just got minecraft, and its trying to update etc, but its just sitting at 51% not doin anything for 5mins now :(
#1647 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> Rhapsodyy: Temporarily disable your antivirus program
#1648 [19:59] <MCServerFail> Yes I'm still able to join.
#1649 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Good. Now that things are working locally, we can work on the external connection side of things
#1650 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> !check 68.114.21.90
#1651 [20:00] <Rhapsodyy> ok ty, do i just have to diable it to start mc then put it back on again?
#1652 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Put it back on when Minecraft has completed doing its update
#1653 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> Rhapsodyy: Put it back on when Minecraft has completed doing its update
#1654 [20:00] <Rhapsodyy> ok great, tyvm
#1655 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: pardon
#1656 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: pardon
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#1658 [20:01] <MCServerFail> I cannot connect to the server on that ip
#1659 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> MCServerFail: Can you go to http://ipchicken.com/ and confirm that the external IP address is reports for you is the same is what we have here for you?
#1660 [20:02] <MCServerFail> yes
#1661 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> Good one. Let's go through your port forwarding now
#1662 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> What's the make/model of your router?
#1663 [20:03] <MCServerFail> inksys wrt54gl
#1664 [20:03] <MCServerFail> linksys
#1665 [20:04] <MCServerFail> wait ive got reports of my friends being able to join me
#1666 [20:04] <MCServerFail> lol
#1667 [20:05] <MCServerFail> I appreciate all the help
#1668 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> You do? Well that's good then. What are they connecting to?
#1669 [20:05] <MCServerFail> They are connecting to my Hamachi Ip
#1670 [20:05] <MCServerFail> and its putting them through to my server
#1671 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> If it's the hamachi one they're connecting to, they will have a much laggier performance
#1672 [20:06] <MCServerFail> Alright well if it gets to be more of a hassle then I will return!
#1673 [20:06] <MCServerFail> Thanks again!
#1674 [20:06] * DiskDaemon makes the the sign of the cross in the air
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#1679 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - at first I read the "We can't answer you if you quit after 10 seconds" message when joining as "If we can't answer you, quit after 10 seconds"
#1680 [20:12] <Elystus> Lol
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#1690 [20:57] <kjaron3> can you only have one person have an account per computer? Or can I buy a membership for each one of my children.
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#1692 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> You can have one for each person.
#1693 [20:58] <lutzee> They can then access the game if they log in from any computer
#1694 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> It's best though to use a separate computer user account for each person too, so that their data is stored in a different place from the others
#1695 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> kjaron3: Do your children all use the same computer account? If so, there are other solutions too.
#1696 [20:59] <kjaron3> thats perfect! So I jsut need to buy an account for each one :) thank you all so much!
#1697 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> By "account" I don't mean a minecraft account, but a computer user account instead.
#1698 [21:01] <kjaron3> oh...so I bought the game and they need to log into thier computer account and t then set upthier minecraft account.
#1699 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Good one. Their computer user account will help to keep their minecraft account and save games nicely separated from each other.
#1700 [21:03] <kjaron3> Sweet! thank you :)
#1701 [21:03] <lutzee> So one doesn't log into a save from a sibling, and thus break something :)
#1702 [21:04] <kjaron3> :)
#1703 [21:04] <kjaron3> :)
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#1705 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> With version 1.3, which is coming out soon, they'll also be able to invite other people on to their single-player world to share it with them
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#1707 [21:07] <lutzee> I think you missed them disk :o
#1708 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> feh
#1709 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Right, time to set up some scripts then
#1710 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> Currently you are running some fairly old graphics drivers, which are at version 8.14 - we can help you to find some more recent graphics drivers.
#1711 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> The problem is caused by your antivirus program. Please temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#1712 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> right - things be getting set
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#1720 [21:51] <Guest> Is there a fix for the ocelot/wolf mass spawn bug? Playing vanilla and I've reinstalled several times...
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#1723 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Apparantly the soon to come version 1.3 won't have that issue
#1724 [21:55] <Guest> Ah, okay. It's excruciatingly annoying. I can't get ANYTHING done.
#1725 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> If it's anything like this, I can understand the difficulty http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4556/20120411053828.png
#1726 [21:57] <Guest> Yes. Seriously, I make a new world, spawn in the jungle, and there are literally fifty cats running at me. They run away as cats do and as soon as they're far enough away, they teleport back to me.
#1727 [21:57] <Guest> Worse yet, THEY'RE BREEDING!
#1728 [21:57] <Guest> D:
#1729 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Others here may want to see the "Nearby (100-200 blocks) dogs/cats teleport to you, even they are seated." section in http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.2.5 for more details
#1730 [21:58] <mig> i have been WAITING FOR 15 DAY NOT JOKING!!!!!!!!
#1731 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> mig: Waiting? What for?
#1732 [21:59] <mig> FOR HELP
#1733 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> mig: Hang on, I'll check the histor
#1734 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> y
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#1736 [22:01] <FeMan> the site says you can use american express, but it doesn't work. Any Ideas?
#1737 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> FeMan: That american express logo/link shouldn't be there, sorry.
#1738 [22:02] <FeMan> okay then, i'll get a visa giftcard or something
#1739 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> mig: I see nothing in the logs over the past 15 day that relate to you.
#1740 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> mig: How can we help?
#1741 [22:03] <mig> NEVER MIND I FIGUERED IT OUT
#1742 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1743 [22:04] <mig> =)
#1744 [22:06] <Guest> http://postimage.org/image/8hyz7utjr/
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#1746 [22:06] <Guest> Welcome to my world.
#1747 [22:07] <Guest> - _ -
#1748 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you kill them?
#1749 [22:07] <Guest> Respawn.
#1750 [22:07] <Guest> Usually they kill me
#1751 [22:07] <Guest> They pack up if I attack one
#1752 [22:07] <Guest> The wolves
#1753 [22:07] <Guest> The cats just respawn
#1754 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> Does this happen on a new world too?
#1755 [22:08] <Guest> Yes
#1756 [22:08] <Guest> That was a pic of a new world
#1757 [22:08] <Guest> Just reinstalled
#1758 [22:08] <Guest> Like ten mins agi
#1759 [22:08] <Guest> ago*
#1760 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> I hope that a future update fixes that issue or you then
#1761 [22:08] <Guest> You and me both
#1762 [22:09] <Guest> I can't mine or anything cause I hit one and they attack in mass
#1763 [22:09] <Guest> If I go underground, they spawn to me
#1764 [22:09] <Guest> If I go underground, they spawn to me
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#1767 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> Put yourself in a small house, and get them from through the window/door
#1768 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Or stand on a tower of dirt, so they can't get to you but you can get them
#1769 [22:10] <Guest> Im fine if im outside of a tiaga/jungle/whereever they usually spawn, I think, but if I go into any of those they start spawning and even if I leave, they keep spawning to me as I kill them.
#1770 [22:11] <Guest> It's fine, I need some time off Minecraft. More addicting than heroin.
#1771 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> Would you mind sharing your world, so that we can experiment with some things?
#1772 [22:11] <Guest> Sure thing, I'll upload it.
#1773 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#1774 [22:12] <Guest> the level.dat, or the full save folder?
#1775 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> The full save folder would be required
#1776 [22:13] <Guest> I'm assuming you can take a .rar file?
#1777 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#1778 [22:17] <Guest> http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/360073/Anagalia-rar.html
#1779 [22:17] <Guest> Not the best upload site, wait 15 secs, but it works.
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#1781 [22:17] <Guest> It's a new world, I ran around for about five minutes, its the world from that image I uploaded.
#1782 [22:19] <Guest> Let me know if it does the same for you.
#1783 [22:19] <Guest> Idle curiosity I guess.
#1784 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Yep, they're here. I'll have a mess around and see if anything can come from things
#1785 [22:20] <Guest> You work for minecraft?
#1786 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Nope, nobody here works for minecraft. We're just random community people
#1787 [22:22] <Guest> Ah. Very cool. Met a lot of cool, admirable people through minecraft. Amazing how a 16 bit style game can bring such creative and innovative people together.
#1788 [22:24] <Guest> Well, in the meantime, I'mma work on the charge condenser for my arrow cannon in creative. Hope I've help my fellow bug-sufferers. Thanks for your assistance.
#1789 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Hrm. As soon as I started the map, they just spread out and dispersed around the place
#1790 [22:25] <Guest> Wow, really. So it's probably not the save, but the actual game program files?
#1791 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> I made some tools and a sword, hit one then jumped on to a two stacked blocks, fending them off. They're decimated now
#1792 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Let's try reinstalling your game completely, and see if that helps towards things
#1793 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest win/reinst
#1794 [22:26] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1795 [22:26] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1797 [22:29] <Guest> okay ill try it and let you know how it goes, hold on
#1798 [22:30] <Guest> ok
#1799 [22:30] <Guest> i deleted everything in C:\Users\Stephen\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#1800 [22:30] <Guest> reinstalling...
#1801 [22:31] <Guest> opening exe file directly from this folder just in case...
#1802 [22:31] <Guest> Annnnnnd.... it's still doing it.
#1803 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> How odd. Does the same thing happen with you on a different computer?
#1804 [22:33] <Guest> Dunno, on a laptop away from home. Well. It's fine, I'll just wait for the patch
#1805 [22:33] <Guest> But my sky fortress will miss me.
#1806 [22:33] <Guest> :(
#1807 [22:34] <Guest> Anyway, thanks again for the help
#1808 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Just out of curiosity's sake, can we take a look at your dxdiag info?
#1809 [22:34] <Guest> sure, hold on
#1810 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest win/dxdiag
#1811 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1812 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1813 [22:35] <Guest> http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/360076/DxDiag-txt.html
#1814 [22:36] <Guest> Acer Aspire Laptop
#1815 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> Yep, an Aspire 5349
#1816 [22:36] <Guest> Few years old, not the best, but I can run the game at fair settings
#1817 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> Well nothing in there looks too far off - i hope that Mojang figure out why that's happening on just a few machines, like yours
#1818 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> Your graphics card drivers could do with being updated, but I doubt that's related to the issue you're facing
#1819 [22:38] <Guest> Hehehe, it is really odd. If not for the framerate drop and constant pushing, it'd almost be nice. I ought to make a mob farm using the suckers, but I cringe at the concept of building that with them constantly tossing me around.
#1820 [22:38] <Guest> Oh yeah, you got some recommended software to update it:
#1821 [22:38] <Guest> ?
#1822 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> gpu/intel
#1823 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> guest gpu/intel
#1824 [22:38] <VoxelHead> guest: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1825 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> Typically version 8.15 graphics drivers means that they're from the year 2008, week 15.
#1826 [22:40] <Guest> Cool, thanks. Hehehe, bet that tutorial automating saves you gross amounts of typing. :P
#1827 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> We try to do what we can here to reduce the amount of work that needs to be done
#1828 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> Some call it being efficient, others call it lazy
#1829 [22:42] * DiskDaemon gets a cuppa tea
#1829 [22:42] <Guest> I would call it a welcome combination thereof. :P
#1830 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> You're welcome to browse through a pretty full list of what VoxelHead is set up to say, at http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
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#1834 [22:57] <Guest> Hahaha, I take it from half of those that you get more than a few knuckleheads passing through here. Glad to see the ones I was referred to were more technical and not 'duh, of course' things. XD
#1835 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#1836 [22:58] * monsta_hunta [monsta_hunta@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1837 [22:58] <monsta_hunta> Where can i report a bug?
#1838 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> What's the bug?
#1839 [22:59] <monsta_hunta> It's for the snapshot 12w25a, i dont think anyone in mojang would have noticed
#1840 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Which bug is it? There are quite a few for 12w25a
#1841 [23:01] <monsta_hunta> Hit grass (maybe other blocks too) with a saddle, they turn into sand. but please don't take credit for finding this, as i have been testing for hours for bugs
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#1843 [23:02] <monsta_hunta> sorry i disconnected
#1844 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> Yep, there are similar reports like that too, such as " I found a spot where i would mine dirt and i'd get sand. if i just click the dirt it will turn to sand." on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_12w25a
#1845 [23:02] <monsta_hunta> oh ok
#1846 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Fixes in 12w27a is "Some blocks change texture, mostly dirt to sand and stone to dirt"
#1847 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Thank you for reporting that though
#1848 [23:04] <monsta_hunta> no problem, do you work for mojang?
#1849 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for mojang. We are community volunteers
#1850 [23:04] <monsta_hunta> ok
#1851 [23:04] <Guest> That's obviously one you need in the pastebin ;)
#1852 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Guest: There's a couple
#1853 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? attitude
#1854 [23:05] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1855 [23:05] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1856 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/bother
#1857 [23:05] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1858 [23:05] <Guest> Ah, gotcha, hahaha.
#1859 [23:08] <monsta_hunta> just wondering, in 12w25a are there supposed to be random flatlands of stone in the middle of biomes?
#1860 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> What biome is shown in such areas?
#1861 [23:09] <monsta_hunta> i think every biome
#1862 [23:10] <monsta_hunta> desert, jungle, forest
#1863 [23:10] <monsta_hunta> swamp
#1864 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Please don't guess at such questions
#1865 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> The debug info pane gives you precise details on which biome you are in. Would you mind checking?
#1866 [23:11] <monsta_hunta> well i was just flying out of the jungle (creative) and saw one in the middle of the jungle, and im on one right now in the desert
#1867 [23:11] <monsta_hunta> and i saw some earlier in swamps
#1868 [23:12] <monsta_hunta> theres some coal ore 2 blocks above me
#1869 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> okay, I'll look for some islands of stone in my 12w25a as well, and see what I can find out about them
#1870 [23:12] <monsta_hunta> island of stone?
#1871 [23:12] <monsta_hunta> just flat stone surfaces
#1872 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> flatlands of stone
#1873 [23:13] <monsta_hunta> :):):) PYRAMID!!!
#1874 [23:13] <monsta_hunta> ive been looking for so long for one of these!
#1875 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> monsta_hunta: Did you know that there have been a couple of public releases beyond the 12w25a one?
#1876 [23:13] <monsta_hunta> Seriously?
#1877 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#1878 [23:14] <monsta_hunta> thank you SO much
#1879 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> 12 is for the year 2012, and 25 means week 25. The a is the first release of that week.
#1880 [23:16] <monsta_hunta> ok im updating now
#1881 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> monsta_hunta: Is this the sort of thing you are meaning? http://i.imgur.com/pmOj0.jpg
#1882 [23:18] <monsta_hunta> sort of, but its bigger and mostly flat
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#1885 [23:21] <spooboy> Hey, can someone help me with something quick?
#1886 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1887 [23:21] <monsta_hunta> sure
#1888 [23:22] <spooboy> Okay, so I set up a minecraft server for *just* lan... and I can't seem to change the gamemode 0, to gamemode 1
#1889 [23:22] <monsta_hunta> i have no idea, Disk might know
#1890 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> Is this with 1.2.5?
#1891 [23:22] <spooboy> The internet says to do it in console, but I don't know how to do that, as I have no client, just the java app from the minecraft website
#1892 [23:23] <spooboy> where do I check build?
#1893 [23:23] <spooboy> It's the current one I believe, I have a valid account.
#1894 [23:23] <spooboy> Yes 1.2.5
#1895 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> spooboy: currently game mode can only be changed from the minecraft_server.exe program, which is used to craete a multiplayer server.
#1896 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> Wiwht the 1.3 version coming out soon, you will be able to issue gamemode command on maps that have cheats enabled.
#1897 [23:24] <spooboy> I have that running, where about'st do I set the param?
#1898 [23:24] <spooboy> All I see is stats, logs, and players
#1899 [23:25] <monsta_hunta> disk i found a picture of the stone flats
#1900 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> spooboy: You must be an op before you can issue that command.
#1901 [23:25] <Andrio> spooboy, there's a text box underneath where the logs are.
#1902 [23:25] <Andrio> That's to enter commands.
#1903 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> spooboy: You can make yourself an up from the server console
#1904 [23:25] <spooboy> Aha
#1905 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> s/up/op
#1906 [23:26] <spooboy> s/up/op in the field?
#1907 [23:26] <spooboy> Unknown console command. Type "help" for help.
#1908 [23:26] <Andrio> If you type 'help' and press enter, it gives you a list of commands.
#1909 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> No, that's just a convention on the channel here to mean that I meant to say "op" in what I said instead of "up"
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#1911 [23:27] <spooboy> so type: s/op/op or just s/op or just op
#1912 [23:27] <monsta_hunta> Disk, i took a screenshot of what i mean by flats
#1913 [23:27] <spooboy> sorry
#1914 [23:27] <monsta_hunta> http://imgur.com/a/KjNGW#HmeOu
#1915 [23:28] <monsta_hunta> gtg bye
#1916 [23:28] <spooboy> okay I believe that typing op made me the op. Now do I enter "gamemode [your name] 1"
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#1918 [23:28] <spooboy> and what do I put in the your name field?
#1919 [23:29] <Andrio> In multiplayer, game modes work on a per-user basis; that is, different players can have different game modes.
#1920 [23:29] <Andrio> Use your Minecraft username.
#1921 [23:30] <spooboy> so I have to set the op as my minecraft user name, and then use that name for the [your name] portion?
#1922 [23:30] <Andrio> You don't have to be an op to do commands from that console window.
#1923 [23:30] <spooboy> I'm really sorry to be bothering you guys, I just want to figure this out and I have no idea how to do this kind of stuff
#1924 [23:30] <Andrio> The op status is for players who join the server.
#1925 [23:31] <Andrio> The idea is that when you join the server, you set yourself as an op, then you can use commands in the in-game chat.
#1926 [23:31] <spooboy> Ohhh
#1927 [23:31] <spooboy> So I join the game, select myself, and then op?
#1928 [23:31] <spooboy> then put in gamemode [your name] 1
#1929 [23:33] <spooboy> Andrio is it okay if I PM you?
#1930 [23:33] <Andrio> Sure.
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#1932 [23:34] <nick1234> cane someone help me
#1933 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1934 [23:35] <nick1234> i have minecraft
#1935 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> well done
#1936 [23:35] <nick1234> but i dont have minecraft jar
#1937 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Why are you looking for minecraft.jar?
#1938 [23:36] <nick1234> becase
#1939 [23:36] <nick1234> i wont it
#1940 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> yes?
#1941 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> Are you wanting to mod something?
#1942 [23:36] <Elystus> it is illegal to redistribute the minecraft jar file.
#1943 [23:37] <nick1234> i delete .minecraft and then start minecraft agane and still dont haveit
#1944 [23:37] <nick1234> yes
#1945 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Can you get to the game menu?
#1946 [23:37] <nick1234> ya
#1947 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> Then you definately do have minecraft.jar
#1948 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> WHy are you wanting to access the file directly?
#1949 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> There are different reasons why, and we can provide help for those different reasons
#1950 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: We cannot help you if you don't tell us what you plan to do with it
#1951 [23:38] <nick1234> i dont have it im in bin
#1952 [23:39] <nick1234> i wont to mod it
#1953 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Modding is complex. Full details on how to mod can be found at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#1954 [23:39] <nick1234> i rilly dont have minecraft .jar
#1955 [23:39] * lilsquez [lilsquez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1956 [23:39] <nick1234> i know how to do it
#1957 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: If you didn't have minecraft.jar then it would be impossible for the Minecraft menu which shows singleplayer/multiplayer to show for you.
#1958 [23:40] <nick1234> i dont have the minecraft.jar i sad it lik 10 time
#1959 [23:40] <lilsquez> I'm stuck in the sky/fog and cannot get back down to land.... Can anyone help me?
#1960 [23:40] <spooboy> double click space bar?
#1961 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> lilsquez" Are you using zone alarm?
#1962 [23:40] <nick1234> ok u wont me to show u that i dont have it
#1963 [23:40] <nick1234> do u have skype
#1964 [23:40] <nick1234> were i cane show u
#1965 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Skype is too costly
#1966 [23:41] <nick1234> here ill take a picture of it
#1967 [23:41] <lilsquez> i'm on my phone playing..
#1968 [23:41] <spooboy> In creative?
#1969 [23:42] <nick1234> were can i send u the pic
#1970 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> imgur.com
#1971 [23:42] <lilsquez> what is Zone alarm?
#1972 [23:42] <nick1234> i dont have minecraft.jar if i have it wtf im i here for
#1973 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Follow the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods#How_to_Install_Mods
#1974 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? nick1234 mods
#1975 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> nick1234 mods
#1976 [23:43] <VoxelHead> nick1234: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1977 [23:43] <VoxelHead> nick1234: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1978 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Follow the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods#How_to_Install_Mods
#1979 [23:43] <Elystus> nick1234: He is not allowed to distribute the jar. If you don't have it, try a force update.
#1980 [23:43] <nick1234> no i dont need instructions
#1981 [23:43] <nick1234> beacasse i know how to do it
#1982 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/bother
#1983 [23:43] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1984 [23:44] <nick1234> i dont have the minecraft to do it
#1985 [23:45] <nick1234> i remember me elystus
#1986 [23:45] <Elystus> Yes, I remember you.
#1987 [23:45] <nick1234> u got me the driver
#1988 [23:45] <lilsquez> I was flying around and some how got stuck up in the sky/fog and cannot get down or back to anything I built...
#1989 [23:45] <Elystus> Why exactly are you unable to download the files via the launcher?
#1990 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> lilsquez: Is that on your phone?
#1991 [23:46] <nick1234> i wont your help elystus
#1992 [23:46] <lilsquez> Yes
#1993 [23:46] <Elystus> Nick1234: Why exactly are you unable to download the files via the launcher?
#1994 [23:46] <nick1234> the othere ppl are retarted
#1995 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: "want". It's spelled want.
#1996 [23:46] <Elystus> They are not retarted, they are simply following the rules.
#1997 [23:47] <nick1234> oh well if i say i dont have it i dont have it
#1998 [23:47] <Elystus> nick1234: Okay, try this.
#1999 [23:47] <nick1234> ok
#2000 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> lilsquez: I'll take a look and see if I can find anything relating to that on the page with pocket edition bugs at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_known_bugs
#2001 [23:47] <Elystus> open the launcher and hit options, then select force update.
#2002 [23:48] <nick1234> ok
#2003 [23:48] <Elystus> log in and it should redownload the folders for you.
#2004 [23:48] <Elystus> files*
#2005 [23:48] <lilsquez> Thank you...
#2006 [23:48] <nick1234> and when its done look agane
#2007 [23:48] <Elystus> yes
#2008 [23:48] <nick1234> still not there
#2009 [23:49] <nick1234> were cane i send u whats in threre
#2010 [23:49] <Elystus> nick1234: are you able to play minecraft right now?
#2011 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> screenshots are useful
#2012 [23:49] <nick1234> i am on the main meiu
#2013 [23:50] <Elystus> nick1234: The minecraft.jer is there. We just need to help you locate it.
#2014 [23:50] <Guest> I just deleted my minecraft.jar and I can't even run the .exe file, I get an error message.
#2015 [23:50] <Elystus> nick1234: Can you send us a picture of the bin folder please.
#2016 [23:50] <Elystus> Guest: Can you paste the error report on pastebin.com
#2017 [23:50] <nick1234> i know were it is locate it remember i did it on my other account
#2018 [23:51] <Elystus> nick1234: If it is there, you should have no problems with sending us a picture.
#2019 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#2020 [23:51] <Elystus> We just want to confirm that you have you are missing it or if you have it, so that we can tell you what to so.
#2021 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> lilsquez: There seems to be others with that same issue, some of who have managed to get out of it at http://www.chaptercheats.com/qna/android/102036/Minecraft-Pocket-Edition-Answers.htm?qid=14295
#2022 [23:52] <Guest> It said: Couldn't find a necessary file within the mindcraft folder: couldn't find (directory)/minecraft.jar
#2023 [23:52] <Guest> minecraft*
#2024 [23:52] <nick1234> how i send a pic on laptop
#2025 [23:52] <Elystus> guest: When you start the launcher, hit options and then force update.
#2026 [23:53] <Guest> k
#2027 [23:53] <Elystus> now log in and it should fix that problem.
#2028 [23:53] <nick1234> how cane i take a pic on laptop
#2029 [23:53] <Guest> printscreen
#2030 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Take a screenshot, save it to a file, then upload to the internet. What part to you need help with?
#2031 [23:53] <Guest> next to F12
#2032 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#2033 [23:54] <Elystus> ^
#2034 [23:54] <Guest> I'm on crappy internet, the update is taking a minute
#2035 [23:54] <Elystus> Its fine :)
#2036 [23:54] <Elystus> I've done everything I have needed to today. Got all the time you need.
#2037 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> Guest: If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing things from happening.
#2038 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> The problem is caused by your antivirus program. Please temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2039 [23:56] <Guest> 20 kbps, meh
#2040 [23:56] <Guest> Nah, it's just slow internet
#2041 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> That's good to know
#2042 [23:56] <Elystus> That is pretty fast compared to most.
#2043 [23:56] <Guest> heh, I usually get 1.5 mbps on my home network
#2044 [23:56] <Elystus> oh waitoh wait... kb?
#2045 [23:56] <Guest> well, total bandwith usage
#2046 [23:56] <Elystus> o.o
#2047 [23:57] <Guest> yeah, the updater itself
#2048 [23:57] <Guest> I'm on a public network
#2049 [23:57] <Elystus> oh, okay that makes sense.
#2050 [23:57] <Guest> minecraft.jar is back in the bin folder
#2051 [23:57] <Elystus> \o/
#2052 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: How are you doing there with the screenshot?
#2053 [23:58] <Guest> It's not a hidden file either, dunno why nick is having a hard time finding it
#2054 [23:58] <nick1234> when i went to get a carmar
#2055 [23:58] * DiskDaemon head in hands
#2055 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: He's all yours :)
#2056 [23:58] <nick1234> becase i dont know how to take a screenshot
#2057 [23:58] <Elystus> nick: You can always hit print screen and paste it in paint or an equivilent program.
#2058 [23:58] <Guest> ... look at your keyboard, do you see the prtsc button beside or in the vicinity of the F12 button
#2059 [23:58] <Elystus> then save it and upload it to imgur.com
#2060 [23:59] <nick1234> becase next to the f12 is scroll num llk
#2061 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> ??< DiskDaemon dont/pebcak