#MinecraftHelp > 2012-07-20
#1 [00:00] <slowfi> I got used to putting lava everywhere like zisteau
#2 [00:01] <slowfi> running minecraft in firefox sounds like a bad idea
#3 [00:02] <Elystus> Back :)
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#5 [00:05] <BlahBlahBlah> Hey can someone help me with my minecratf?
#6 [00:06] <Elystus> What do you need help with?
#7 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> ?ask
#8 [00:06] <BlahBlahBlah> I put in user and pass and the game just shuts off
#9 [00:06] * Elystus notices that disconnecting took away his voice ;-;
#9 [00:06] <BlahBlahBlah> like right when i hit log in it stops for a minute then exis out
#10 [00:07] <Elystus> BlahBlahBlah: Can we try to generate a crash report for that?
#11 [00:07] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#12 [00:08] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Can you try my program on a non virtual machine?
#13 [00:08] <BlahBlahBlah> thanks for the link Elystus
#14 [00:08] <Elystus> You're welcome
#15 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> I don't have an actual test machine set up for that right now. If I did have a clean test machine set up without .NET installed, how would the .exe file not running due to needing it differ from that of a virtual machine?
#16 [00:11] <Elystus> Oh... :/
#17 [00:11] <slowfi> I thought java.exe was the virtual machine in the case of java programs like minecraft
#18 [00:11] <Elystus> slowfi: Its a program that I made in C++
#19 [00:11] <Elystus> needs the .net framework.
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#21 [00:12] <Elystus> which, on a clean install of windows, does not exist.
#22 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> Yes, java is a virtual machine for java code. I'm using a separate virtual machine for the entire operating system itself, which I use when testing things. It helps too prevent me from clobbering my main machine when testing goes wrong
#23 [00:12] <slowfi> I never associated C++ with virtual machines
#24 [00:13] <Elystus> slowfi: Would you like to test the program?
#25 [00:13] <Elystus> Since DiskDaemon is unable to at this time.
#26 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I'm fully capable of testing it. I'm busy right now performing some editing, but shortly I'll install .NET on to my test machine and investigate your program after that
#27 [00:15] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Okay :)
#28 [00:15] * Elystus goes to make a java fix program in C++
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#30 [00:21] <Marc_IRL> Minecraft save data is per user account on the computer, right? So if two people shared a computer, they could use separate users, and not share the files?
#31 [00:21] <BlahBlahBlah> So Elystus you got any tips on how to fix my minecraft crashing problems?
#32 [00:22] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: That is correct
#33 [00:22] <Marc_IRL> ok, just wanted to double check
#34 [00:22] <Elystus> BlahBlahBlah: If I can get that crash report.
#35 [00:22] <BlahBlahBlah> ok
#36 [00:22] <BlahBlahBlah> how do i get that to you :D ?
#37 [00:23] <Elystus> ??>> BlahBlahBlah pastebin
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#39 [00:23] <BlahBlahBlah> Paste my bin?
#40 [00:24] <Elystus> no, pastebin.com
#41 [00:24] <Elystus> go to that website.
#42 [00:24] <BlahBlahBlah> Oh
#43 [00:24] <Elystus> and paste what was in the error report.
#44 [00:24] <BlahBlahBlah> kk
#45 [00:25] <Ochretis> ok i have a bit of a long situation, here it goes
#46 [00:25] <Ochretis> Ok so I have been playing on my friends server for about 2 weeks now and just the other day when the whole security breech problem occurred and they shut down the servers, ever since then I have been unable to reach any server. All my friends can connect to the server fine though. I am however in NZ atm and they are all back home in the US. Anyway we have tried everything, restarting computer, deleted my .bin and redownloaded, deleted .minecraft an
#47 [00:26] <Ochretis> things restarted and then redownloaded, renewing IP address, allowing it in my firewall and antivirus, turning off all antivirus and firewalls, restarting router, installing on gf's computer, waiting 24hrs, updating internet driver. Not sure if i missed anything, but I'm really desperate and was hoping maybe someone here could help me out. And just for additional info, the error is that whenever i try and connect it does the polling thing then the
#48 [00:26] <Ochretis> with every server
#49 [00:26] <Ochretis> also I can play other online games like PSO2 and FFXI
#50 [00:26] <Ochretis> and i can get through the authentication servers, meaning in SSP i can keep my skin and everything
#51 [00:27] <Elystus> Ochretis: Are you able to go on other servers?
#52 [00:27] <Ochretis> No, no servers work currently
#53 [00:27] <Elystus> can you open cmd prompt and type
#54 [00:27] <Elystus> ping session.minecraft.net
#55 [00:28] <Ochretis> sent 32 bytes
#56 [00:28] <Ochretis> sent 4 recieved 0 lost 4
#57 [00:29] <Elystus> Did it say reqeuest timed out?
#58 [00:29] <Ochretis> yeah 3x after it said sent 32 bytes
#59 [00:29] <Elystus> okay, so it is not your hosts file.
#60 [00:30] <Elystus> Ochretis: Can you attempt to connect to a random server from a diffrent computer.
#61 [00:30] <Ochretis> I tried connecting to the server with my girlfriends computer and i got the same problem
#62 [00:31] <Elystus> Ochretis: Is she on a diffrent network?
#63 [00:31] <Ochretis> no she's on the same, and if u mean try a diff network, i went to my friends house and she has her own internet and I was able to connect from ther
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#65 [00:32] <Elystus> SO the router is the issue.
#66 [00:32] <Ochretis> so i was assuming mabe it was a blocked port, but if that was the case how come i can get thru authentication server
#67 [00:32] <Ochretis> and my friend hosting the server even switched the port 3 diff times to something diff
#68 [00:33] <Elystus> What is the exact error message that you get?
#69 [00:33] <Elystus> when you try to connect*
#70 [00:33] <Ochretis> problem is im staying in a studio room and I can't do much to the router aside from reset it
#71 [00:33] <Ochretis> and well first off it does the polling thing and then gives me red bars and says cannot reach server
#72 [00:33] <Ochretis> then i try to conenct and it says connection timed out
#73 [00:34] <Ochretis> what's weird is that it all happend so suddenlyt
#74 [00:34] <Elystus> Ochretis: Have you tried a hard reset?
#75 [00:34] <Ochretis> do u mean unplugging the modem and router for 1min? cuz thats what i did
#76 [00:35] <Elystus> >_> elusive problem we have here.
#77 [00:35] <Ochretis> lol tell me about it.
#78 [00:35] <Ochretis> me and my friend have been trying for like 5 days
#79 [00:35] <Ochretis> trying every thing we can think of
#80 [00:35] <Ochretis> i tried emailing mojang but
#81 [00:35] <Ochretis> they take their time :P
#82 [00:35] <Elystus> Ochretis: They don't have technical support :/
#83 [00:36] <Elystus> They direct people here.
#84 [00:36] <Ochretis> ah, also im sry to sound stupid but how do i do that privatet chat thing with u when u talk in red
#85 [00:36] <Elystus> Ochretis: Its red because I am pinging you.
#86 [00:37] <Ochretis> mmmk
#87 [00:38] <Ochretis> anyway so is there anything else you'd like me to do or are you thinking? tbh i just want to know what happened
#88 [00:39] <Elystus> Thinking...
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#90 [00:39] <Elystus> o/ |Kiichan|
#91 [00:39] <|Kiichan|> yo
#92 [00:39] * |Kiichan| hates that he always diosconnects at ~1am
#92 [00:39] * |Kiichan| was on minez :<
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#93 [00:47] <Ochretis> alright well just lemme know if you can think of anything ill leave this on for now
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#99 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Guess what. I installed .NET and there's still the MSCVP100.dll missing issue.
#100 [01:22] <Elystus> What .-.
#101 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Would you like to figure out what should be installed on a machine for that to work?
#102 [01:22] * Elystus goes to google
#102 [01:22] <Elystus> also, the hardest part of the ipv4 fix is done.
#103 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: A solution is at http://www.rhyous.com/2010/09/16/avoiding-the-msvcr100-dll-or-msvcr100d-dll/
#104 [01:24] <DiskDaemon> People need to install the "VC++ Runtime Redistributable" for that C++ .exe file to run
#105 [01:24] <Elystus> .-.
#106 [01:24] * Elystus hits himself
#106 [01:24] <DiskDaemon> That is, if you don't want to either statically link to it so it's compiled in the .exe file
#107 [01:24] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Do option 1 - statically link to it.
#108 [01:24] <Elystus> okay
#109 [01:25] * DiskDaemon heads down for dinner - back in an hour or so
#109 [01:25] <Elystus> cya
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#124 [02:49] <warior1010790> I am attempting to re-download Minecraft and it is not really working. I have deleted the folder -.minecraft- in the %appdata% folder and attempted to redownload using the force update button to no advantage. When i attempt to download it gets partway and stops. I know it isnt just freezing the download becasue i watch my network activity and when it freezes the activity goes down. I am still getting internet because im able to ta
#125 [02:50] <Ely> do you have avg?
#126 [02:50] <warior1010790> Yes
#127 [02:50] <Ely> Disable it and try again
#128 [02:53] <warior1010790> Thank you for the help, it worked!
#129 [02:54] <Elystus> You're welcome :)
#130 [02:54] <Elystus> You're welcome :)
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#133 [03:31] <skyboy> !check ::1
#134 [03:32] <skyboy> why does aubot have a tick?
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#137 [04:15] <Hobo_Farmer> Hey guys, I have tried having people join me on my server but it comes up with connection lost. I can join the server using localhost and the IP address. Plase Help. Thank you, Hobo
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#139 [04:29] <Hobo_Farmer> Guys
#140 [04:29] <Hobo_Farmer> C'mon
#141 [04:29] <Hobo_Farmer> Can't you answer my question?
#142 [04:29] <Hobo_Farmer> :(
#143 [04:32] <lemon-rev> whats up
#144 [04:32] <lemon-rev> just got back from rebooting
#145 [04:33] <Hobo_Farmer> I have tried having people join me on my server but it comes up with connection lost. I can join the server using localhost and the IP address. Plase Help. Thank you, Hobo
#146 [04:33] <Hobo_Farmer> Sorry for the late post
#147 [04:33] <Hobo_Farmer> BTW I don't have a firewall
#148 [04:34] <lemon-rev> Hobo_Farmer ok, so you have done port forwarding
#149 [04:34] <lemon-rev> !myip
#150 [04:34] <lemon-rev> ok,
#151 [04:34] <Hobo_Farmer> Yeah
#152 [04:34] <lemon-rev> hobo type what i just did and lets see if i can ping you
#153 [04:34] <Hobo_Farmer> And I had a friend join before
#154 [04:34] <lemon-rev> hm
#155 [04:34] <Hobo_Farmer> !myipd
#156 [04:35] <Hobo_Farmer> !myip
#157 [04:35] <Hobo_Farmer> !myipd
#158 [04:35] <Hobo_Farmer> *fail
#159 [04:35] <lemon-rev> ok so the connection is good
#160 [04:35] <lemon-rev> i think
#161 [04:35] <Hobo_Farmer> I have a :32768 at the end BTW
#162 [04:35] <lemon-rev> cant rember the name for testing servers now
#163 [04:35] <lemon-rev> hm, why are you useing a different port ?
#164 [04:36] <Hobo_Farmer> I don't know, something about PortMap being a bugger
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#166 [04:36] <lemon-rev> ok, so if someone joins like a friend are tehy useing standered ip or ip and the port as well ?
#167 [04:36] <Hobo_Farmer> So in grand total it's 124.188.24.223:32768
#168 [04:36] <Hobo_Farmer> Port aswell
#169 [04:36] <lemon-rev> see if they can join just on the port
#170 [04:36] <lemon-rev> or the ip
#171 [04:37] <lemon-rev> sorry
#172 [04:37] <Hobo_Farmer> I can't even join on just the IP
#173 [04:37] <lemon-rev> hm,
#174 [04:37] <Hobo_Farmer> it needs that 32768 at the end. I don't know why.
#175 [04:37] <lemon-rev> are you running mods ?
#176 [04:38] <Hobo_Farmer> Yes
#177 [04:38] <Hobo_Farmer> But I haven't installed any recently
#178 [04:38] <Hobo_Farmer> And my friends have been on with the exact same mods
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#180 [04:39] <lemon-rev> so your friends can join, when was the last time they happend to join ?
#181 [04:39] <Hobo_Farmer> A few weeks ago.
#182 [04:39] <Hobo_Farmer> So then I told a few friends about and now it doesn't work
#183 [04:39] <lemon-rev> hm, so maybe they could be useing a pre release correct ?
#184 [04:40] <Hobo_Farmer> No, they can join other servers
#185 [04:40] <lemon-rev> it could be something on there end
#186 [04:40] <Hobo_Farmer> 'I hope I am explaining this properly
#187 [04:40] <Hobo_Farmer> Maybe
#188 [04:41] <Hobo_Farmer> IF they had a firewall would that prevent them from joining some servers?
#189 [04:41] <Hobo_Farmer> I wouldn't think so but...
#190 [04:41] <lemon-rev> if they are having trobule and you can join your own server with the correct ip then thats good, but maybe someone with more adanced info might beable to help but i think i have reached what i can try with
#191 [04:41] <lemon-rev> yes
#192 [04:41] <lemon-rev> firewall can block some ports
#193 [04:41] <Hobo_Farmer> Could you try and join it?
#194 [04:41] <lemon-rev> well im not running current 1.2.5
#195 [04:41] <Hobo_Farmer> dammit!
#196 [04:41] <lemon-rev> im running the 12w27
#197 [04:42] <Hobo_Farmer> Well, all you have to do is replace the .exe or .jar file don't you?
#198 [04:42] <lemon-rev> hobo have you tryed joinging one of there other servers
#199 [04:42] <lemon-rev> basicly,
#200 [04:42] <Hobo_Farmer> Yes, they have been on mcau.org
#201 [04:42] <lemon-rev> and you can join that one ?
#202 [04:42] <Hobo_Farmer> Yes.
#203 [04:43] <lemon-rev> thats recently ?
#204 [04:43] <Hobo_Farmer> Yes.
#205 [04:43] <lemon-rev> give me a tick, ill see what ican do
#206 [04:43] <Hobo_Farmer> i just logged in then out of it now.
#207 [04:44] <lemon-rev> k
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#209 [04:49] <lemon-rev> ok
#210 [04:50] <lemon-rev> its says its up
#211 [04:50] <Hobo_Farmer> yes!
#212 [04:50] <Hobo_Farmer> aaannddd.....
#213 [04:50] <lemon-rev> lol hang, i got see if i can login, im useing whats called magic launcher kinda a little more complex to get around
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#223 [05:39] <mohawk> hello
#224 [05:39] <Andrio> Hi
#225 [05:40] <mohawk> does anyone have a solution to a bad video driver cause i have no problem on my driver but on minecraft it says that and im currently running on vista
#226 [05:40] <Andrio> Update the driver
#227 [05:41] <mohawk> ive tried but its not working
#228 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> mohawk: Are you on a laptop that uses switchable graphics?
#229 [05:41] <mohawk> no i have a computer nota laptop
#230 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> ??> mohawk win/dxdiag
#231 [05:42] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#232 [05:42] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#233 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> mohawk: How are you doing there?
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#235 [05:49] <ste__> my minecraft screen has went black and i can't get on it
#236 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> ste__: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#237 [05:50] <ste__> thank you
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#239 [05:52] <ste__> i need to get on to my mine craft folder on mac but i can't find it
#240 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mac/.minecraft
#241 [05:52] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#242 [05:53] <ste__> i have tried that but it isn't there
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#244 [05:56] <ste__> hi i need my minecraft folder but it isn't in application support
#245 [05:56] <ste__> I'm on mac
#246 [05:57] <DiskDaemon> ste__: That seems to imply that the instructions on installing Minecraft may not have been followed all the way through
#247 [05:58] <ste__> can it be in a another folder
#248 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> I'm a PC guy myself, sorry
#249 [05:59] <ste__> ok
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#251 [06:00] <Calinou> he came back with a different name :o
#252 [06:00] <mohawk> hahaha lol>>>>>>> drowning man
#253 [06:01] <stepointon> how do i gat to my mine craft folder if it isn't in my application support folder on mac
#254 [06:02] <mohawk> anyone here love minecraft but cant play it
#255 [06:02] <DiskDaemon> stepointon: But yout /Applications folder is where Mojang instructs you to unpack the Minecraft zip file in to.
#256 [06:03] <stepointon> but when i downloaded it it never let me choose
#257 [06:05] <DiskDaemon> It unpacks the zip file after you download, right?
#258 [06:05] <DiskDaemon> You are to then, "place Minecraft in your /Applications folder"
#259 [06:06] <DiskDaemon> Those are the instructions directly from http://www.minecraft.net/download
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#261 [06:14] <stepointon> hi how do i unpack my mine craft in to the application folder
#262 [06:14] <stepointon> on mac
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#265 [06:20] <Hobo_Farmer> Hello
#266 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#267 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> How's the weather?
#268 [06:21] <Hobo_Farmer> need help?
#269 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> ?? ask
#270 [06:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#271 [06:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#272 [06:21] <lemon-rev> hobo where you on eariler ?
#273 [06:21] <Hobo_Farmer> No, I'm asking step
#274 [06:21] <stepointonlalal> how do i unpack my mine craft into my application folder on mac os x lion
#275 [06:21] <Hobo_Farmer> yes, I'm fine
#276 [06:21] <Hobo_Farmer> Okay step
#277 [06:22] <Hobo_Farmer> Right click it
#278 [06:22] <stepointonlalal> ok
#279 [06:22] <lemon-rev> stepointonlalal you just get the launcher and login to it
#280 [06:22] <stepointonlalal> what is launcher
#281 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> stepointonlalal: What happens when you download the minecraft.zip file. Do you see the contents already unpacked?
#282 [06:23] <lemon-rev> goto minecraft.net and downlod the client, that opens up with some info on the latest patch
#283 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> lemon-rev: If I'm understanding this right, mac users have to move the unpacked minecraft.app folder to their /applications folder
#284 [06:23] <stepointonlalal> ok so i will re download it
#285 [06:24] <lemon-rev> well once you do that, it should be very quick, save it say on your desktop and launch it, login with your details and it should install into appdata
#286 [06:24] <lemon-rev> oh, didnt think he was a mac, sorry DiskDaemon
#287 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> lemon-rev: stepointonlalal's on a mac - yeah
#288 [06:24] <lemon-rev> oh, doh
#289 [06:25] <stepointonlalal> i have downloaded it and it has went into my downloads folder now what do i do
#290 [06:25] * lemon-rev staying out of this,
#290 [06:25] <lemon-rev> stepointonlalal doesnt minecraft.net have instructions for you
#291 [06:26] <lemon-rev> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoT0Imyp3XY < check that out stepointonlalal
#292 [06:26] <stepointonlalal> ok thanks :)
#293 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> stepointonlalal: Pleae explain in detail what the mac does when it downloads. I do not know what the mac does, so you will have to be my eyes
#294 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> Ahh good, that's a useful video that one
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#296 [06:27] <lemon-rev> well i just found it , used the famous way of finding it
#297 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? google
#298 [06:28] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#299 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, a bit snotty that message is, but yeah.
#300 [06:29] <lemon-rev> true
#301 [06:29] <stepointonlalal> what it does when you download it it just goes in to your downloads folder
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#304 [06:33] <stepointon> how do i get to my mine craft folder on mac if it isn't on my application support
#305 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> That would requre someone who knows something about macs
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#307 [06:35] <stepointon> who knows about macs
#308 [06:35] <stepointon> i really need help
#309 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> Well I'm afraid that this isn't Mojang support. If someone comes along who can volunteer some help for you ... *deep breath*
#310 [06:37] <GermanBlackbot> ...doesn't a mac also have this standard search-tool?
#311 [06:37] <GermanBlackbot> Search for minecraft.jar and ta-da, you should've found the folder.
#312 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> they're gone now
#313 [06:38] <GermanBlackbot> Damn.
#314 [06:39] <GermanBlackbot> But really, that's kinda obvious, isn't it
#315 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> To some people the obvious is clearly opaque
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#317 [06:43] <GermanBlackbot> Opaque...such a nice word :-> Wouldn't even be in my vocabulary without minecraft , though.
#318 [06:43] <stepointon> how do i fix mine craft saving chunks bug on mac
#319 [06:44] <GermanBlackbot> stepointon: Ah, you're back. Have you tried searching for the minecraft.jar via the normal search?
#320 [06:45] <stepointon> i have downloaded mine craft put it in my app folder but on app support it isn't there
#321 [06:46] <GermanBlackbot> But you *did* start the game at least once, yes?
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#323 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> stepointon: Is the mac secured in any way? If it's a school/work/business computer it might be.
#324 [06:47] <stepointon> no it is just my mac
#325 [06:47] <stepointon> it is not protected
#326 [06:48] <stepointon> downloading mine craft is ok but it isn't in my application support folder
#327 [06:48] <GermanBlackbot> Did you actually start the game?
#328 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> GermanBlackbot: he can't even find the game
#329 [06:49] <GermanBlackbot> Woops. Did not realize it was *that* different from the windows version in installing, sorry
#330 [06:49] <stepointon> yes what it is i have the saving chunks bug but i need to get on the folder but it isn't there
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#332 [06:50] <GermanBlackbot> ...so...you can't find the game on your computer, but it clearly runs (though is has a bug)?
#333 [06:51] <stepointon> yes when i click on a game save it says saving chunks then the screen goes black
#334 [06:52] <stepointon> i can fined the game just not the support folder
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#336 [06:53] <GermanBlackbot> Okay. Again, i don't own a mac (so I'm just guessing), but...I take you already tried using the normal search-function?
#337 [06:54] <GermanBlackbot> (I for my part always forget the most obvious solution, that's why I even consider this ;) )
#338 [06:54] <stepointon> yes
#339 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> stepointon: You may need to gain assistance from people who know a thing or two about macs. Such as from http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101-upd-14-june/
#340 [06:55] <stepointon> ok tahnks
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#344 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - Thing to note. On macs, on lion and later, the ~/Library folder is hidden by default
#345 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> To get to it, you can either do chflags nohidden ~/Library in the terminal, or do command+shift+g to bring up the "Go To folder" command (like win+r)
#346 [07:17] <GermanBlackbot> Macs be weird.
#347 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> Think different :)
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#349 [07:30] <MiningManiac12> It says that I couldn't post or something?
#350 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> What says it where?
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#361 [08:47] <spoonr1> hi guys, on my server how would i disable other people from enabling gamemode 1?
#362 [08:48] <nimrod> dont op them
#363 [08:48] <spoonr1> but would still have access to commands such as teleport
#364 [08:48] <nimrod> o
#365 [08:48] <spoonr1> i just need to disable the ability to change gamemode =)
#366 [08:48] <spoonr1> had a look around for some plugins and such
#367 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> spoonr1: It's an all or nothing affair with op mode
#368 [08:51] <spoonr1> hmm
#369 [08:51] <spoonr1> have you heard of any plugins
#370 [08:52] <spoonr1> which could disable it?
#371 [08:52] <spoonr1> or perhaps
#372 [08:52] <spoonr1> some plugins which would grant people fly mode and teleport mode
#373 [08:52] <spoonr1> i've found a flying one, just need a teleport one now
#374 [08:53] <Lord_of_Life> Can villagers use ladders and vines in 1.2.5?
#375 [08:55] <spoonr1> i know they can use ladders
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#378 [08:58] <Necrodoom> spoonr1: you probably need to get bukkit for it
#379 [08:59] <Boreeas> spoonr1: You will need bukkit, and a permission plugin for that. But the people in #bukkit will probably be able to help you better.
#380 [09:02] <spoonr1> thanks, i already have bukkit, i will go speak with them
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#386 [09:32] <Guest> I keep getting the error message "the registry refers to a nonexistant Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupt" when trying to run the downloadable client
#387 [09:33] <Chaotic_Void> I have the latest version of Java and all older versions have been removed
#388 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> There seems to be more cleaning up needing to be done
#389 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> ?? javara
#390 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/javara
#391 [09:34] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#392 [09:34] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#393 [09:35] <Chaotic_Void> ok thank you, I will try it
#394 [09:36] <Chaotic_Void> oh, wait a minute, I already have that
#395 [09:36] <Chaotic_Void> I've used it already
#396 [09:37] <Chaotic_Void> every time I run JavaRa it says it removes an old version of Java (6 I think)
#397 [09:38] <Chaotic_Void> but obviously it doesn't because if I run it again it says it has removed the same version
#398 [09:39] <DiskDaemon> Does it show an empty log file too?
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#400 [09:39] <Chaotic_Void> No, it's quite full
#401 [09:40] <DiskDaemon> You may need to run it as an administrator.
#402 [09:40] <Chaotic_Void> when I tried going into my files and deleting jre6 I got an error message stating that the program is currently in use
#403 [09:40] <DiskDaemon> restart the computer, and if you still can't, use safe mode
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#406 [10:01] <Rank> hey, when i try to play minecraft a get an error. "Fatal error occured (4): Error writing to server"
#407 [10:01] <Rank> Can you help?
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#410 [10:02] <DiamondJunior> PLS i need help
#411 [10:03] <DiamondJunior> i've buyed a premium account but i can't log in with my account !!
#412 [10:04] <DiamondJunior> pls help
#413 [10:04] <DiamondJunior> my Username is "DiamondJunior"
#414 [10:05] <Andrio> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=DiamondJunior
#415 [10:06] <Andrio> Doesn't seem to have registered that you've paid.
#416 [10:06] <Rank> Hey, when i try to play minecraft a get an error. "Fatal error occured (4): Error writing to server"
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#426 [10:56] <scorpio345> hello my minectaft froze last week when updating so i tried to restart it and i already had a back up and ecrything so i tried to put it back on but when i log in it just says downloading...like and the green bar isnt moving at all it just stays lile that!!
#427 [10:58] <Andrio> scorpio345, can you log in to minecraft.net?
#428 [10:59] <Andrio> I've seen similar issues on proxies that block minecraft.net
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#430 [11:10] <Storm3y> My friend is getting a minecraft error end of stream in the server log when he trys to connect to our server
#431 [11:10] <Storm3y> Everyone else seems to be fine though
#432 [11:12] <DiskDaemon> Can your friend connect when using safe mode + networking?
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#435 [11:15] <DiamondJunior> i need help !!!
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#437 [11:16] <DiamondJunior> I've buyed a premium account of minecraft, but i can't log in with my account
#438 [11:16] <DiamondJunior> i've buyer that account bevor 7 days
#439 [11:16] <DiamondJunior> *buyed
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#441 [11:18] <DiamondJunior> heyyyy help please
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#445 [11:21] <DiamondJunior> plsss help !
#446 [11:21] <Storm3y> DiskDaemon - sec
#447 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: How did you buy Minecraft?
#448 [11:22] <DiamondJunior> i buyed on minecraft.net with a EC Card
#449 [11:23] <DiamondJunior> from Germany
#450 [11:23] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: so a MasterCard, correct?
#451 [11:23] <DiamondJunior> no
#452 [11:23] <DiamondJunior> with a EC-Card
#453 [11:24] <DiamondJunior> from Germany
#454 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: is it a credit card?
#455 [11:24] <DiamondJunior> no
#456 [11:24] <DiamondJunior> but i've buyed that before a week
#457 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> did you buy the game via Moneybookers gateway of Minecraft.nte?
#458 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> *net
#459 [11:24] <DiamondJunior> no
#460 [11:24] <DiamondJunior> i buy the game on the original minecraft.net :D
#461 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft.net does not have support over EC-Card
#462 [11:26] <DiamondJunior> but... from germany
#463 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: no, minecraft.net does not support that payment method
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#466 [11:26] <DiamondJunior> but ! From germany it's ok
#467 [11:27] <DiamondJunior> from Germany, you can pay with a debit card
#468 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: no you cannot, unless you paid via Moneybookers
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#470 [11:27] <DiamondJunior> but !! I've do it !
#471 [11:27] <DiamondJunior> wait
#472 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> I'm currently not aware if Moneybookers support EC-Card, but I'm positive that minecraft.net does not support EC-Card
#473 [11:28] <DiamondJunior> look here
#474 [11:28] <DiamondJunior> http://www.minecraft.net/store/purchase
#475 [11:29] <DiamondJunior> and then select the country in Germany
#476 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: oh, I see it now
#477 [11:29] <DiamondJunior> yeah
#478 [11:29] <DiamondJunior> but it was before a week.....
#479 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: did you receive a confirmation email from Mojang?
#480 [11:30] <DiamondJunior> a mail about my account... YES.. but a mail about my new Premium account... NO
#481 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: Is your bank account charged?
#482 [11:31] <DiamondJunior> yes
#483 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: There's a chance Mojang never received the payment
#484 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> I suggest calling your bank about it
#485 [11:32] <DiamondJunior> i've already do that defore 3 days but all is ok
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#488 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: in the future, use PayPal to buy Minecraft or just anything on the internet, it has been known to be faster and safer than Moneybookers
#489 [11:33] <DeathReaper> i cannot drop blocks in my server they disapear from my invintory but they do not appear on ground, just started recently.
#490 [11:33] <DiamondJunior> but i haven't got Paypal
#491 [11:33] <DiamondJunior> ok in future... whats now ?
#492 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: you can call the bank and ask for a chargeback, then buy Minecraft again via PayPal
#493 [11:35] <DiamondJunior> it's to late for a chargeback... i Can't do that
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#496 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: then I suggest contacting mojang with your moneybookers transcation ID
#497 [11:36] <ryan_the_leach> Anyone know of any _good_ minecraft hosts that have servers in either australia or singapore?
#498 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> ryan_the_leach: try #smp
#499 [11:36] <ryan_the_leach> thanks
#500 [11:36] <DiamondJunior> ok i can give you my transaction id...
#501 [11:36] <DiamondJunior> wait
#502 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: don't
#503 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> give them to Mojang, not me
#504 [11:36] <DiamondJunior> ok...
#505 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#506 [11:37] <DiamondJunior> on which emai ?
#507 [11:37] <DiamondJunior> email
#508 [11:37] <ryan_the_leach> damn, want a host, not a server... but ill still try them
#509 [11:37] <swg> i joined and down leaded game signed in and i can't play the game
#510 [11:37] <DiamondJunior> or... Mojang has a telephone or Teamspeak support ??
#511 [11:38] <AG_Clinton> ryan_the_leach: Do you have a huge amount of cash to spend on the server?
#512 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: I am trying to find the support form
#513 [11:38] <DiamondJunior> ok thx
#514 [11:38] <DeathReaper> i cannot drop blocks in my server they disapear from my invintory but they do not appear on ground, just started recently.
#515 [11:39] <oldtopman> DeathReaper: Are you an op?
#516 [11:39] <DeathReaper> yes okl
#517 [11:39] <DeathReaper> but
#518 [11:39] <DeathReaper> no one can drop anything they just disapear
#519 [11:39] <tyteen4a03> DiamondJunior: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#520 [11:40] <DiamondJunior> thynks
#521 [11:40] <DiamondJunior> thanks
#522 [11:40] <oldtopman> DeathReaper: Do you have any bukkit mods like WorldGuard or Permissionsex?
#523 [11:40] <DiamondJunior> bb
#524 [11:40] <DiamondJunior> bb
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#526 [11:40] <DeathReaper> i have permissionsex
#527 [11:40] <oldtopman> It's probably malfunctioning.
#528 [11:41] <DeathReaper> should i just restart the server?
#529 [11:41] <oldtopman> ??> DeathReaper mods
#530 [11:41] <VoxelHead> DeathReaper: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#531 [11:41] <VoxelHead> DeathReaper: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#532 [11:44] <DeathReaper> alright well a server restart didnt work so i guess im off to another hour of google searching thank's for letting me know about permissionsex ill look more into it
#533 [11:45] <oldtopman> No problem.
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#538 [12:18] <TylerMcAwesome> hey i'm back it won't let me login because i can't connect to minecraft.net
#539 [12:19] <TylerMcAwesome> hello?
#540 [12:20] <TylerMcAwesome> it won't let me login because i can't connect to minecraft.net
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#542 [12:20] <TylerMcAwesome> it won't let me login because i can't connect to minecraft.net
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#544 [12:21] <TylerMcAwesome> it won't let me login into my minecraft to play online
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#547 [12:30] <skyboy> ??> TylerMcAwesome dont/spam
#548 [12:30] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
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#551 [12:35] <JamesNlond157> hello, please help i purchased minecraft but it won´t activate?
#552 [12:36] <skyboy> how long ago did you purchase it?
#553 [12:37] <TylerMcAwesome> my game won't let me play online because it has time out but last night it worked fine
#554 [12:37] <skyboy> ??> TylerMcAwesome dont/flood
#555 [12:37] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (dont/flood) Please do not paste large globs of text into the IRC channel. This is called 'flooding' and is considered _very_ rude.
#556 [12:37] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (dont/flood) If you have an error log or other information to share that is more then one or two lines, use pastebin.com. see pastebin for more information.
#557 [12:38] <skyboy> right, wrong message. but you should still get the point
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#559 [12:39] <skyboy> JamesNlond157: how long ago did you purchase minecraft
#560 [12:40] <skyboy> !paid JamesNlond157
#561 [12:40] <JamesNlond157> 1-2 days before
#562 [12:40] <skyboy> how did you pay?
#563 [12:41] <JamesNlond157> paypal
#564 [12:41] <skyboy> did paypal send your a confirmation email?
#565 [12:41] <JamesNlond157> no
#566 [12:41] <skyboy> then you did not purchase minecraft. the transaction was declined.
#567 [12:42] <skyboy> for more information, contact paypal
#568 [12:42] <JamesNlond157> i have a code that i have purchased minecraft
#569 [12:42] <skyboy> you bought a gift code?
#570 [12:42] <JamesNlond157> no the order number
#571 [12:42] <JamesNlond157> here: ORDER 7ac0baefcc65458d951de8334fc45682
#572 [12:43] <skyboy> i can't do anything with that
#573 [12:43] <JamesNlond157> what should i do now?
#574 [12:43] <Necrodoom> JamesNlond157: how did you buy minecraft?
#575 [12:43] <JamesNlond157> with paypal
#576 [12:43] <skyboy> but if the funds were not removed from your account, you did not buy it
#577 [12:43] <Necrodoom> JamesNlond157: you bought a giftcode using paypal?
#578 [12:44] <JamesNlond157> not a gift code a premium account
#579 [12:44] <skyboy> were the funds removed from your account?
#580 [12:45] <JamesNlond157> sry i´m not english and i can´t so good english
#581 [12:45] <JamesNlond157> maybe you can speak german?
#582 [12:45] <skyboy> i can't
#583 [12:46] <JamesNlond157> oh, why i have ever bad luck?
#584 [12:46] <skyboy> was 20 euros taken out of your paypal account?
#585 [12:46] <JamesNlond157> yes
#586 [12:46] <JamesNlond157> i HAVE BOUGHT MINECRAFT
#587 [12:46] <skyboy> what's the name of the account you bought it for?
#588 [12:46] <skyboy> what's the name of the account you bought it for?
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#590 [12:48] <skyboy> he left
#591 [12:48] <skyboy> okay then.
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#594 [12:49] <laplar> i need a mine craft folder but it isn't on application support on my mac i have a bug and it needs fixing
#595 [12:50] <skyboy> are you trying to play classic or did you buy minecraft?
#596 [12:50] <nightfall8154> are the servers up today cause i have checked a few an all 4 say cannot connect?
#597 [12:50] <skyboy> !login
#598 [12:50] <skyboy> !isdown
#599 [12:50] <GreyBot> skyboy: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
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#601 [12:52] <nightfall8154> cause i checked this morning on my home computer server was not able to connect to mutiplayer, an at a different computer an still not able to connect on mutiplayer, its normal for two to be down but all 4
#602 [12:52] <laplar> i have mine craft and i have payed for it but i don't have a folder in application support on mac
#603 [12:53] <skyboy> did you download the launcher for mac?
#604 [12:53] <laplar> how do you download it
#605 [12:54] <laplar> how do you download launcher on mac
#606 [12:54] <nightfall8154> i can log into single player but cannot reach any multiplayer
#607 [12:55] <skyboy> nightfall8154: is it only those 4 servers, or can you connect to some larger ones?
#608 [12:55] <xales> laplar: From http://minecraft.net/ ...
#609 [12:55] <laplar> tar
#610 [12:56] <nightfall8154> well normally 2 out of those 4 recently are disconnected but one is normally 24/7 an never had much trouble connecting an the other is down once in a while but comes back but they all be down since 4am- an its 1pm here
#611 [12:56] <skyboy> laplar, i honestly don't know how to help you with your problem. it's one of the basic skills needed to use the internet
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#613 [12:57] <skyboy> ??> nightfall8154 smp/servers
#614 [12:57] <VoxelHead> nightfall8154: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#615 [12:57] <VoxelHead> nightfall8154: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#616 [12:57] <skyboy> using those lists, can you connect to one of the larger servers that is known to be online?
#617 [12:57] <nightfall8154> ok thanks
#618 [12:58] <skyboy> please come back with an answer
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#621 [12:59] <skyboy> !check google.com
#622 [12:59] <Lord_of_Life> How can I get minecraft to recognize the Java 64-bit? I tried installing both 32 & 64 bit, only 32 or 64 latest java update but I still can't change the view distance to Far.
#623 [12:59] <skyboy> aw. that'd been cool
#624 [12:59] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: do you get a red warning message when you do?
#625 [12:59] <cooleo> i have got mine craft launcher but i haven't got a folder in application support and i have payed for the game can any one help me
#626 [13:00] <Lord_of_Life> yes
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#628 [13:00] <skyboy> cooleo: have you launched minecraft yet?
#629 [13:00] <cooleo> yes
#630 [13:00] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: is your OS 64 bit?
#631 [13:00] <Lord_of_Life> yes win7 ultimate 64bit
#632 [13:01] <skyboy> cooleo: start a single player world then save and exit minecraft. when you start it up again, tell me if the saved world is still there
#633 [13:01] <xales> Lord_of_Life: You need to have only the 64-bit version of Java installed.
#634 [13:01] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: uninstall 32 bit java
#635 [13:01] <Lord_of_Life> Tried that two times. Uninstalling everything using software and trying only 32 and only 64. No effect whatsoever
#636 [13:02] <cooleo> yes i have done that and one isn't there when i start up the game and make a game save i have a bug and it says saving chunks
#637 [13:02] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: uninstall java entirely, then install java 64 bit. nothing else
#638 [13:02] <nightfall8154> ok it must be there servers cause i can reach a random server on mutiplayer thanks for the help :)
#639 [13:03] <skyboy> cooleo: you are being unhelpful. after you have saved the world and exited minecraft, start it up again and let me know if that single player world is still there
#640 [13:03] <Lord_of_Life> Tried that two times. Tried installing 64bit java then installing minecraft and also the other way around, with previously 100% removed all previosly installed javas
#641 [13:04] <cooleo> yes the world is still there
#642 [13:04] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: you don't need to remove minecraft. you only need to uninstall all versions from the control panel
#643 [13:04] <skyboy> then install the 64 bit version of java
#644 [13:04] <skyboy> cooleo: then you do not have a bug
#645 [13:05] <skyboy> cooleo: your minecraft installation works perfectly fine, and there is nothing you need to worry about and there are no problems. as such, we can not help you.
#646 [13:05] <Lord_of_Life> cooleo: I have learned that the first couple of times (5-10) minecraft will tend to give some errors and black screen, but it stabilizes in time. Why? no idea lol.
#647 [13:05] <cooleo> no i do the world that i made i made that before i had the bug
#648 [13:05] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: I TRIED THAT TWO TIMES. :)
#649 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Lord_of_Life: caching mechanism?
#650 [13:06] <Lord_of_Life> o.O ?
#651 [13:06] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: just bare with me and do it
#652 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> ??<
#653 [13:06] <Lord_of_Life> caching mechanism?
#654 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> ignore me
#655 [13:06] <skyboy> after you have removed them, take a screenshot of the J section of the add/remove programs window
#656 [13:07] <cooleo> it isn't the bug what I'm bothered about it is that i haven't got a folder for mine craft on application support
#657 [13:07] <skyboy> and you shouldn't have.
#658 [13:07] <skyboy> that is not a bug.
#659 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> cooleo: Minecraft.exe is a standalone application, it does not technically "install" things on your system
#660 [13:07] <skyboy> you do not have any problems, cooleo, there is nothing we can help you with because you do not need help.
#661 [13:08] <xales> tyteen4a03: Yeeees it does... :p
#662 [13:08] <xales> but they are on a Mac, anyway.
#663 [13:08] <xales> :p
#664 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> xales: not that I know anything about macs :P
#665 [13:08] <cooleo> i do need help when i click on my world it says saving chunks and the the screen goes black
#666 [13:08] <xales> tyteen4a03: It's written on top of BSD, and that's all you need to know :p
#667 [13:09] <skyboy> i don't think any of us really knows anything about macs
#668 [13:09] <xales> cooleo: Your world is corrupt then.
#669 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> xales: that thing I know, and they're made of apples
#670 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> *by apple
#671 [13:09] <xales> lol
#672 [13:09] <cooleo> i made a new one swell and it done the same
#673 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> how that statement slipped out of my mouth is beyond me
#674 [13:10] <skyboy> cooleo: did you attempt to install a mod?
#675 [13:10] <cooleo> yes
#676 [13:10] <skyboy> uninstall the mod
#677 [13:10] <cooleo> i have
#678 [13:10] <skyboy> ??> cooleo mac/.minecraft
#679 [13:10] <VoxelHead> cooleo: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#680 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> sky: mac/uninst
#681 [13:10] <Necrodoom> cooleo: did the mod had custom blocks or something?
#682 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> oh
#683 [13:10] <skyboy> ??> cooleo mac/uninst
#684 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> it doesn't exist, sorry
#685 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> *reinst
#686 [13:11] <cooleo> thats what I'm saying i haven't got the folder in application support
#687 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> now that exists
#688 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> cooleo: Are you by any chance using Mountain Lion?
#689 [13:11] <skyboy> i hate apple
#690 [13:11] <cooleo> yes
#691 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> uh, just Lion
#692 [13:11] <xales> skyboy: s/apple/Mac Users/
#693 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> cooleo mac/.minecraft/lion
#694 [13:12] <VoxelHead> cooleo: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#695 [13:12] <skyboy> xales: yes, but apple is to blame for that too
#696 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> then continue with the mac/reinst instructions
#697 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> cooleo mac/reinst
#698 [13:12] <VoxelHead> cooleo: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#699 [13:12] <VoxelHead> cooleo: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#701 [13:12] <xales> skyboy: I blame society as a whole. ._.
#702 [13:12] <skyboy> how did he install a mod in the first place?
#703 [13:12] <xales> GOOD QUESTION.
#704 [13:12] <xales> ._.
#705 [13:12] <xales> skyboy: Probably by watching a Youtube video.
#706 [13:13] <cooleo> bad
#707 [13:13] <skyboy> great
#708 [13:13] <cooleo> brb
#709 [13:13] <skyboy> bad?
#710 [13:14] <skyboy> wait, how did he "uninstall" the mod? after installing it?
#711 [13:14] <xales> skyboy: What's the factoid about "helping yourself"?
#712 [13:14] <skyboy> dont/pebcak
#713 [13:14] <xales> ??< dont/pebcak
#714 [13:15] <xales> \o/
#715 [13:15] <xales> skyboy: thanks
#716 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> ??< dont/pebcak
#717 [13:15] <skyboy> there's also dont/bother
#718 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> and telepathy and attitude
#719 [13:15] <skyboy> mhm
#720 [13:15] <xales> ooh
#721 [13:15] <xales> I've not seen telepathy
#722 [13:15] <xales> ??< telepathy
#723 [13:16] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: http://prntscr.com/cer8r there you go. still can't change to far
#724 [13:16] <xales> Lord_of_Life: Have you tried 64-bit Java 6?
#725 [13:16] <Lord_of_Life> Actually yes. No change.
#726 [13:16] <xales> Hmm.
#727 [13:16] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life win/dxdiag
#728 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#729 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#730 [13:17] <xales> Actually, before that.
#731 [13:17] <xales> I hate to ask this, but...
#732 [13:17] <xales> Have you tried turning it off and on again? ._.
#733 [13:17] <Lord_of_Life> Turning what on/off ?
#734 [13:17] <xales> Your computer.
#735 [13:17] <skyboy> the computer
#736 [13:17] <xales> Reloading the registry can fix things sometimes.
#737 [13:17] <Lord_of_Life> Face.palm
#738 [13:17] <xales> Windows is just...that way.
#739 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> which sucks btw
#740 [13:17] <Lord_of_Life> You got to be kidding me lol.
#741 [13:18] <skyboy> not with this issue, though
#742 [13:18] <xales> Lord_of_Life: It *shouldn't* matter.
#743 [13:18] <skyboy> it's not possible
#744 [13:18] <xales> But Windows is just retarded sometimes.
#745 [13:18] <skyboy> because the files no longer exist
#746 [13:18] <skyboy> he can't run the 32 bit version if it _isn't there_
#747 [13:18] <xales> skyboy: It could be caching registry keys or something else retarded.
#748 [13:18] <skyboy> can he?
#749 [13:18] <xales> Or caching 32-bit Java. :p
#750 [13:18] <skyboy> registry is unimportant
#751 [13:18] <Necrodoom> i havent seen an error being solved that way, xales, so far
#752 [13:18] <skyboy> caching doesn't apply
#753 [13:18] <skyboy> it's an operating system, not a web browser
#754 [13:18] <xales> skyboy: I know, but it's also Windows. :p
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#756 [13:19] <skyboy> Necrodoom: i have
#757 [13:19] <Necrodoom> oh.
#758 [13:19] <skyboy> there was a guy whose miencraft would crash, without error; and we had him do everything
#759 [13:19] <peobo> i need help my mine craft folder isn't in my application support on my mac
#760 [13:19] <Lord_of_Life> Okey despite you think I am newbish I tried everything in any possible order. Simply does not recognize it. It's the game, other java dependant software works....
#761 [13:19] <skyboy> eventually i directed him to risucraft, and after a couple hours he was asked to restart. it fixed the issue
#762 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> peobo: You just came here some time ago and we provided a solution
#763 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> firstly, do this:
#764 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> peobo mac/.minecraft/lion
#765 [13:20] <VoxelHead> peobo: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#766 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> then do this
#767 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> peobo mac/reinst
#768 [13:20] <VoxelHead> peobo: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#769 [13:20] <VoxelHead> peobo: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#770 [13:21] <skyboy> isn't there a factoid about changing names?
#771 [13:21] <peobo> i really don't get that will you tell me step by step
#772 [13:21] <skyboy> you were told step by step
#773 [13:21] <peobo> but he docent tell me where to type it
#774 [13:21] <skyboy> they're not each on individual lines with nice numbers or letters for you, but all of the steps are there
#775 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> peobo: Follow the instructions first, then if you have problems about it you can ask here
#776 [13:22] <peobo> ok
#777 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> oh, you don't know about the mac terminal
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#779 [13:22] <peobo> yes do i type all that in there
#780 [13:22] <xales> If that is what the instructions say, yes.
#781 [13:22] <Guest71062> hi i need help setting up a minecraft multiplayer server and im having trouble can someon help?
#782 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> Open Terminal from Applications>Utilities>Termina
#783 [13:23] <skyboy> he know about it
#784 [13:23] <xales> Guest71062: www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#785 [13:23] <Calinou> Guest71062, if you can't understand the guide, read it again, if you still can't just don't make a server
#786 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> peobo, the exact command, yes
#787 [13:23] <Calinou> creating a server requires knowledge
#788 [13:24] <skyboy> is it a full moon tonight?
#789 [13:24] <Lord_of_Life> VoxelHead: would you mind if I pm you the link?
#790 [13:24] <peobo> i will come back later thanks for the help ttho
#791 [13:24] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life bot
#792 [13:24] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (bot) I just type quickly.
#793 [13:24] <Lord_of_Life> so pm to skyboy
#794 [13:24] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life dont/pm
#795 [13:24] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#796 [13:25] <skyboy> dxdiag is not private information really, and multiple people are here to offer assistance; they need it too
#797 [13:25] <skyboy> so just post it here.
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#799 [13:27] * xales is going to go eat, if needed, ping that guy ^
#799 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> xales|nexus: you have a nexus 7 now? :o
#800 [13:29] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: ..are you going to post the dxdiag?
#801 [13:30] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: Trying.... pastebin just won't submit. Would you mind if I do it on any alternative you or I provide?
#802 [13:30] <skyboy> won't submit? is it giving you a captcha?
#803 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Lord_of_Life: try pastie.com or paste.ubuntu.com
#804 [13:30] <skyboy> or gist.github.com
#805 [13:30] <xales|nexus> Galaxy Nexus, tyteen4a03 :P
#806 [13:31] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: no traffic, like their dns is down or smth, yes I know some alternatives that's why I asked. Just a sec
#807 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> xales|nexus: oh, I have that too
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#809 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> and here it comes again
#810 [13:32] <peobo> i followd the commands u said before and they worked thanks
#811 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> peobo: glad you got it working again
#812 [13:32] <Lord_of_Life> https://gist.github.com/3152090
#813 [13:33] <peobo> finally haha thanks for the help
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#816 [13:34] <skyboy> i'm surprised you can een run it on 64 MB of display memory
#817 [13:35] <peobo> just a little bit of help for use if there mine craft has crashed because they tried to do a mod on mcpacher tell them to delete mc pacher and minecraft and re download it
#818 [13:35] <peobo> thats for mac
#819 [13:36] <skyboy> we know how to provide support
#820 [13:36] <peobo> good bye and thanks again
#821 [13:36] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: you can try updating your display drivers
#822 [13:36] <Lord_of_Life> 64? Hmm, where are you looking at?
#823 [13:36] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life gpu/amd
#824 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#825 [13:36] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life gpu/intel
#826 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#827 [13:36] <skyboy> sorry.
#828 [13:37] <skyboy> use the latter link
#829 [13:37] <peobo> well skyboy u never prodded help for me so you are not helpful
#830 [13:37] <skyboy> you weren't even telling me what your problem actually was
#831 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> please do not initiate drama
#832 [13:38] <Lord_of_Life> Dedicated Memory: 64 MB You are talking about that?
#833 [13:38] <peobo> tyteen4a03 you helped a lot
#834 [13:38] <skyboy> i'm not teleyes.
#835 [13:38] <skyboy> shift+home failed?
#836 [13:38] <peobo> i was skyboy
#837 [13:38] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: yes
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#839 [13:39] <skyboy> peobo: no, you were saying you couldn't find a folder, not that you were having a crash
#840 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> peobo: No problem
#841 [13:39] <skyboy> the two issues are not related.
#842 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> skyboy: query
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#844 [13:39] <skyboy> ??>> peobo telepathy
#845 [13:39] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: ? That is allocated computer memory not display memory. That is actually good because it already has enough... that's just extra.
#846 [13:39] <ItzDuke> Hello?
#847 [13:40] <peobo> yes the crash was the problem
#848 [13:40] <ItzDuke> I have a question my minecraft randomly stop updating
#849 [13:40] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: no, that dedicated memory is what your video card/chip has
#850 [13:40] <skyboy> peobo: you did not tell me you had a crash
#851 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> [01:38] <tyteen4a03> skyboy: query
#852 [13:41] <skyboy> ItzDuke: describe your problem
#853 [13:41] <peobo> yes i did
#854 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> peobo: Not very clearly at first, it seems
#855 [13:41] <xales> Okay.
#856 [13:41] <ItzDuke> When i try to update aka force update it would start then just stop
#857 [13:41] <skyboy> peobo: your issue is fixed, you can leave now
#858 [13:41] <peobo> yes but you got it
#859 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> xales: you gave up lunch for drama! yay!
#860 [13:41] <skyboy> ItzDuke: do you have AVG?
#861 [13:41] <ItzDuke> yea
#862 [13:41] <xales> tyteen4a03: Nah, I finished it. :p
#863 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> xales: what did you have anyways
#864 [13:41] <xales> tyteen4a03: PIZZA.
#865 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> I see
#866 [13:42] <Lord_of_Life> skyboy: Intel does not use dedicated memory. It uses shared memory.
#867 [13:42] <ItzDuke> i disable my firewall, i might just uninstall it
#868 [13:42] <xales> Lord_of_Life: Yeah...that's the problem.
#869 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> ItzDuke: try Avast
#870 [13:42] <peobo> ok skybox you was not helpful bye bye :)
#871 [13:42] <xales> Intel GPUs are crappier than crap.
#872 [13:42] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: intel uses dedicated memory too.
#873 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> ^^
#874 [13:42] <skyboy> they jsut don't have very much of it
#875 [13:42] <ItzDuke> what Avast
#876 [13:42] <xales> ItzDuke: You need to disable AVG's "LinkScanner" module.
#877 [13:42] <skyboy> the "not very much" part is the 64 MB
#878 [13:42] <ItzDuke> ok
#879 [13:42] <xales> Or, preferably, just remove AVG. It's crap.
#880 [13:42] <ItzDuke> ikr
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#882 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> ItzDuke: Avast is a free antivirus
#883 [13:43] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life gpu/intel
#884 [13:43] <ItzDuke> it'a always given issue
#885 [13:43] <Lord_of_Life> It uses those 64 as part of the shared memory.
#886 [13:43] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#887 [13:43] <bendikz> Best OS for hosing minecraft server?
#888 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> bendikz: Linux
#889 [13:43] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: update your drivers
#890 [13:43] <bendikz> Distro?
#891 [13:43] <ItzDuke> i might go back to microsoft free AV
#892 [13:43] <skyboy> bendikz: this is not the place for that question. try #minecraft or #smp
#893 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> bendikz: anything that suits you, my friends have tried Arch Linux and works for them really well
#894 [13:44] <ItzDuke> brb
#895 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> but normal distros such as ubuntu and fedora also works
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#900 [13:45] <bendikz> Debian?
#901 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> bendikz: works
#902 [13:45] <ItzDuke> im uninstalling AVG
#903 [13:45] <bendikz> CentOS or FreeBSD?
#904 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> bendikz: never used FreeBSD but my friend once used CentOS and I heard it's ok
#905 [13:46] <Lord_of_Life> You guys don't understand how it works lol. It does not have any (capitals) connection with the dedicated memory.
#906 [13:46] <skyboy> while people are being helped, can you guys please move the off topic OS discussion elsewhere?
#907 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> skyboy: I don't see how it is severly disturbing the support sessions, but sure
#908 [13:46] <skyboy> Lord_of_Life: i'm a programmer and i can work with hardware itself. i am fully aware of how it works. update your drivers.
#909 [13:48] <Lord_of_Life> This aint a contest, I am too a programmer with far more experience than you.
#910 [13:48] <Necrodoom> arghh
#911 [13:49] <skyboy> then you should know that the intel chip has on-board memory that it uses primarily for rendering, and that it uses the shared portion of memory to store what it can not fit in dedicated memory
#912 [13:49] <skyboy> but you still must update your drivers, which i have told you to do 3 times now
#913 [13:49] <skyboy> or maybe four times
#914 [13:49] <skyboy> ??> Lord_of_Life gpu/intel
#915 [13:49] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Life: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#917 [13:50] <Lord_of_Life> And I did it the first time.....
#918 [13:50] <Lord_of_Life> reinstalling java atm
#919 [13:50] <TheOnePunisher> is anyone available to help me with a payment issue?
#920 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> TheOnePunisher: yes/
#921 [13:50] <xales> skyboy: Actually, the GPU drivers are irrelevant in this case.
#922 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> ?
#923 [13:50] <skyboy> try running minecraft again, if on the "far" render setting you still get hat red message, then just don't use far
#924 [13:51] <xales> Lord_of_Life: Does Minecraft actually inhibit you from setting it on Far? If it just displays the warning, you can just ignore it if it's misdetecting.
#925 [13:51] <skyboy> you shouldn't be using far on a device with so little graphics power to start with
#926 [13:51] <TheOnePunisher> excellent, i'm trying to buy minecraft via CC and moneybookers says it has to SMS me a verification code but i never get it, i've tried several times now.
#927 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> TheOnePunisher: rule of thumb: do not use Moneybookers
#928 [13:51] <TheOnePunisher> it's the only option when i'm trying to pay via CC
#929 [13:51] <skyboy> xales: it may be in error, but on 64 MB of on-board memory, performance will plummet on the far setting
#930 [13:51] <TheOnePunisher> when i try PP it asks me to login
#931 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> you can try calling Moneybookers as it's not Mojang who is responsible for SMSing you
#932 [13:52] <TheOnePunisher> normally i get the option to pay via CC or login with PP
#933 [13:52] <xales> TheOnePunisher: You don't need to login to PayPal to use it to pay.
#934 [13:53] <TheOnePunisher> hum, i might have missed the option, will check again
#935 [13:53] <Lord_of_Life> xales: Crashes. I am 99.(9)% sure it's the game not the OS, Java, GPU, CPU hell whatever software or hardware.
#936 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> PayPal allows you to pay as a guest, just below/above the login option
#937 [13:53] <xales> Lord_of_Life: Does it crash with "Out of memory"?
#938 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> but it's still strongly recommended that you do use paypal instead of moneybookers
#939 [13:53] <TheOnePunisher> found it, thanks muchly
#940 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#941 [13:54] <Lord_of_Life> Nope light blue with crash report. (not BSOD -_-)
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#943 [13:54] <skyboy> yeah, that's the MC crash screen
#944 [13:54] <xales> Lord_of_Life: Can I see the report message?
#945 [13:54] <skyboy> the white part in the middle shows you the error
#946 [13:55] <Lord_of_Life> Yes and after reading it thoroughly I can't find a problem outside Minecraft. Hmm xales maybe if it gives it out again.
#947 [13:56] <skyboy> what was the error it reported? can you remember if it was "Out of Memory" ?
#948 [13:56] <xales> skyboy: I already asked that ._.
#949 [13:56] <xales> skyboy: Minecraft has a special handler for OOM anyway
#950 [13:57] <Lord_of_Life> ...
#951 [13:57] <skyboy> xales: i haven't yet managed to trigger an out of memory exception, so i haven't seen the handler
#952 [13:57] <xales> skyboy: http://www.auslans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/328_minecraft_out_of_memory_error_1.6.6.jpg
#953 [13:58] <Lord_of_Life> Okey drivers updated, java updated, red warning, black screen no report.
#954 [13:58] <skyboy> try running this, Lord_of_Life https://github.com/medsouz/MinecraftError
#955 [13:59] <Lord_of_Life> That I'll do later, I have to go.
#956 [13:59] <Lord_of_Life> pm me the link please
#957 [14:00] <skyboy> also, tyteen4a03: i'd asked you to move the discussion because i'm presently tired and having trouble focusing
#958 [14:01] <TheOnePunisher> anyone know how to do a clean uninstall of minecraft? do i just delete the .minecraft directory?
#959 [14:01] <skyboy> delete the bin directory inside the .minecraft directory
#960 [14:01] <TheOnePunisher> ty
#961 [14:02] <skyboy> do not delete anything else: your saves are stored there
#962 [14:02] <skyboy> unless you were wanting those gone
#963 [14:05] <TheOnePunisher> last question :) how do i install the "GriefPrevention.jar" mod? Just use MCPatcher?
#964 [14:05] <xales> ??> TheOnePunisher mods
#965 [14:05] <VoxelHead> TheOnePunisher: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#966 [14:05] <VoxelHead> TheOnePunisher: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#968 [14:12] <Mrdj67> hello
#969 [14:12] <Mrdj67> can someone help me
#970 [14:12] <xales> ??> Mrdj67 ask
#971 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Mrdj67: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#972 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Mrdj67: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#973 [14:13] <Mrdj67> my minecraft says bad video card drivers and and i checked for updaes for it and there is none
#974 [14:13] <xales> ??> Mrdj67 win/dxdiag
#975 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Mrdj67: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#976 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Mrdj67: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#977 [14:15] <Mrdj67> one second
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#979 [14:16] <Mrdj67> http://pastebin.com/jvpaewy9
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#981 [14:17] <Quky> hhi
#982 [14:18] <xales> Mrdj67: Unfortunately, your computer is rather old and was not built to be a gaming system, especially not modern games like Minecraft.
#983 [14:18] <Quky> are ther any gms or admin i can ask help from ?
#984 [14:18] <xales> Even if we can find a way to get Minecraft to launch, it won't run very well.
#985 [14:18] <xales> Quky: What do you need help with...?
#986 [14:18] <Mrdj67> damnit
#987 [14:18] <Mrdj67> but xales
#988 [14:18] <Quky> with buying minecraft
#989 [14:18] <Mrdj67> my other laptop is worst than this 1 and it can play it?
#990 [14:19] <Mrdj67> is there any chance that swiftshader could work?
#991 [14:19] <Quky> i'd rather have it on a private chat session if possible
#992 [14:19] <xales> Mrdj67: If it has a more modern video card, then it would be able to play it.
#993 [14:19] <xales> Quky: If you aren't specific with what the problem is, then nobody can help you.
#994 [14:19] <Mrdj67> am i able to buy one somewhere?
#995 [14:19] <Elystus> Mrdj67: If it is a desktop, then yes.
#996 [14:20] <Mrdj67> yes it is
#997 [14:20] <Quky> the problem is ,, the payment methods that are provided to buy minecraft
#998 [14:20] <Mrdj67> k thx m8
#999 [14:20] <Mrdj67> cya later
#1000 [14:20] <Quky> arent working for me
#1001 [14:20] <xales> Mrdj67: You'd need to work with somebody that can help you find one that would fit and work with your other hardware, probably somebody at a local computer store.
#1002 [14:20] <xales> Quky: Why don't they work?
#1003 [14:20] <Mrdj67> k cheers cya
#1004 [14:20] <Quky> wth i mean is the phone number that has been assigned for my credit card
#1005 [14:20] <Quky> is expired
#1006 [14:20] <Quky> so everytime it uses moneybookers
#1007 [14:21] <xales> Quky: That's not something we can help with. If your card is being denied, you need to call your bank.
#1008 [14:21] <Quky> i cannot verify it with mobile phone cuz my number is different now
#1009 [14:21] <Quky> its not being denied
#1010 [14:21] <Quky> its just the phone number that has been assigned to my credit card is old
#1011 [14:21] <xales> Well, if for some reason the transaction is unable to complete, then again, you need to call your bank.
#1012 [14:21] <xales> This is not something that we can help with, nor can Mojang or Moneybookers help you.
#1013 [14:21] <Quky> i've called the bank they said
#1014 [14:22] <Quky> they cannot change it for now need to go and ask for it on monday
#1015 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> well, there's your answer, then.
#1016 [14:22] <Quky> so i would like another option other than moneybookers
#1017 [14:22] <Quky> also i dont trust paypal so yea ...
#1018 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> There's PayPal.
#1019 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> ah.
#1020 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> Well, in that case, your option is to wait.
#1021 [14:22] <xales> Quky: If you aren't willing to use other options, that's your problem. We can't help you, and I can guarantee you Mojang isn't going to come up with another payment processor just for you.
#1022 [14:23] <Quky> i can understand that , but the option i want is simple
#1023 [14:23] <Quky> jsut credit card info
#1024 [14:23] <Quky> and they do the transaction
#1025 [14:23] <xales> It doesn't work that way.
#1026 [14:23] <Quky> i dont need some third party site to
#1027 [14:23] <xales> Either use PayPal, or wait.
#1028 [14:23] <Quky> know my credit card info
#1029 [14:23] <xales> Fun fact: That's how payments are processed.
#1030 [14:24] <Quky> nope
#1031 [14:24] <xales> They *always* go through a third party.
#1032 [14:24] <Quky> therer are many games
#1033 [14:24] <xales> Even if you buy at a POS site.
#1034 [14:24] <Quky> that only use straight forward credit card info
#1035 [14:24] <xales> It goes through a third party.
#1036 [14:24] <xales> Even if you aren't aware of it.
#1037 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Quky: If your credit card info is out of date, it needs to be brought up to date before it can be used.
#1038 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Only your card issuer can do that.
#1039 [14:24] <Quky> ok again its not out of date...
#1040 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> If your card issue says to wait 'till Monday, then you wait 'till Monday.
#1041 [14:24] <Quky> just the mobile number i used before is expired
#1042 [14:24] <xales> Quky: That would be out of date info.
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#1044 [14:25] <Quky> but its not credit card info
#1045 [14:25] <xales> If it's attached to your credit card, then yes it is.
#1046 [14:25] <Quky> its jsut mobile phone infoo attached to my credit card
#1047 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> It is information used to verify your CC is not used fraudulently
#1048 [14:25] <Quky> 2 different things
#1049 [14:25] <xales> ??> Quky dont/bother
#1050 [14:25] <VoxelHead> Quky: (dont/bother) If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1051 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> which is why it's important to keep up-to-date with your CC issuer
#1052 [14:25] <Quky> if ur not going to keep on saying the same thing
#1053 [14:25] <Quky> dont bother helping
#1054 [14:25] <Quky> ?
#1055 [14:26] <xales> Quky: You aren't listening to what we are saying.
#1056 [14:26] <Quky> i said i wanted to talk to someone who has the authority
#1057 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> If you keep asking the same question, we will keep giving the same answer.
#1058 [14:26] <Quky> to deal with my problem
#1059 [14:26] <Quky> if u cant do it
#1060 [14:26] <xales> Quky: That would be your bank.
#1061 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> No matter how much you rephrase the same question.
#1062 [14:26] <Quky> then dont even try
#1063 [14:26] <Quky> look sir
#1064 [14:26] <Quky> im saying that is there a wy for me to pay without using any third party site
#1065 [14:26] <xales> No.
#1066 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> No.
#1067 [14:26] <Quky> if not im not even gonna buy this game
#1068 [14:27] <Quky> cuz i dont like third party sites involved
#1069 [14:27] <xales> That's your problem, we don't care.
#1070 [14:27] <xales> FUN FACT:
#1071 [14:27] <Quky> as i mentioned before
#1072 [14:27] <xales> There are *ALWAYS* third parties involved.
#1073 [14:27] <xales> With everything you do.
#1074 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> It's not possible to buy anything without using cash, without involving a third party, anywhere, ever.
#1075 [14:27] <Elystus> Quky: I can assure you that it is safe. The worst that ever happens is that no money is taken out.
#1076 [14:28] <Quky> oh really ? last time i had 100 $ stuck at my paypal account jsut because they encountered a problem with my bank
#1077 [14:28] <Quky> now
#1078 [14:28] <Quky> dont tell me worst case is they wont take money
#1079 [14:28] <xales> Quky: Your inability to use the system does not imply a problem with the system itself.
#1080 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> It sounds like you need a new bank, if they're giving you that many problems.
#1081 [14:28] <Elystus> ^
#1082 [14:29] <Quky> lol my inability ur are talkin about is not being able to click next
#1083 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> I'd recommend a credut union.
#1084 [14:29] <Quky> i said they encountered a problem with my bank
#1085 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> er, credit.
#1086 [14:29] <Quky> do you ever liste ?
#1087 [14:29] <Quky> dont think so
#1088 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? attitude
#1089 [14:29] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1090 [14:29] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1091 [14:30] <skyboy> i see no one here needs help. back to messing with bots
#1092 [14:30] <Quky> i said at the begining i want to talk to someone who has the authority
#1093 [14:30] <Quky> so
#1094 [14:30] <Quky> they said they do
#1095 [14:30] <skyboy> well, too bad
#1096 [14:30] <Quky> thats why i stated my problem
#1097 [14:30] <Quky> and they also said they cannot help
#1098 [14:30] <skyboy> none of us work for mojang, and your problem is that you can't pay
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#1100 [14:30] <Quky> and blamed it on me
#1101 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> We don't have any authority over anything other than this IRC channel; all we can offer is advice.
#1102 [14:30] * xales kicked Quky from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uky :Listening and reading comprehension are skills vital to using the Internet, and skills you lack. Please return once you have acquired them.)
#1103 [14:30] <skyboy> learn how to use your pay serv-
#1104 [14:31] <skyboy> right, bots
#1105 [14:31] * skyboy wanders off
#1105 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> live, stage
#1106 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> oops, wrong terminal :p
#1107 [14:32] <Elystus> lol
#1108 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Oh dear. Now you all know that $CLIENT's code is live on the staging server.
#1109 [14:32] <Elystus> :O
#1110 [14:33] * Elystus implodes the universe using "live, stage"
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#1113 [14:57] <Suavemeh888> I am having bluescreen problems. Any help anyone?
#1114 [14:57] <Elystus> The classic windows bluescreen crash?
#1115 [14:58] <Suavemeh888> It says core dump and dumping memory to save computer or something
#1116 [14:59] <xales> Suavemeh888: If you are getting BSODs then you have a serious computer problem.
#1117 [14:59] <xales> You should contact a local computer professional, who can assist you in resolving the issue.
#1118 [14:59] <Elystus> ^
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#1121 [15:01] <Suavemeh888> Ok its a 6 month old asus computer so its relatively new and eveytime i start minecraft launcher its shows would u want to update and i hit yes and than it shows mojang amd than bluescreens after that
#1122 [15:03] <xales> Suavemeh888: Again, this is beyond what we can assist you with.
#1123 [15:03] <Elystus> We would need to have the computer in front of us to fix it.
#1124 [15:03] <Suavemeh888> Ok well thanks anyway
#1125 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> it's nice when people take the fact that they're bringing us SEP well.
#1126 [15:04] <Elystus> Yea :)
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#1129 [15:10] <UncleOwen> Hi, I'm having trouble validating my email. I've tried multiple times (on multiple days), but haven't received a verification email yet. The username is UncleOwen - could someone please check if there's anything wrong?
#1130 [15:11] <Elystus> There was probably a typo when you made the account.
#1131 [15:11] <Elystus> You would need to contact Mojang to help this issue. Or alternatively.
#1132 [15:11] * Elystus pokes Marc_IRL
#1132 [15:12] <UncleOwen> You think, I've mistyped my email? Hmm... possible
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#1134 [15:12] <Elystus> Marc may be afk.
#1135 [15:13] <Elystus> In the mean time.
#1136 [15:13] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1137 [15:13] <Elystus> Send a ticket in.
#1138 [15:14] <UncleOwen> thanks, I'll do that
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#1143 [15:27] <Spy227X> do you know where i can get help for something that happened on the forums?
#1144 [15:27] <Spy227X> it was a random ban
#1145 [15:28] <Spy227X> they banned EthanBeta2 for a scam, and I got banned with him for following his thing called Minecraft Tips (not the contest that prob was scam)
#1146 [15:29] <Spy227X> where do i get help unless if it is here?
#1147 [15:29] <Elystus> Spy227X: Go to #minecraftforums
#1148 [15:29] <Spy227X> thanks
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#1157 [15:52] <mib_811mch> hello
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#1160 [15:55] <mrwikiwikisir> What is this'
#1161 [15:55] <oldtopman> mrwikiwikisir: The minecraft help channel.
#1162 [15:56] <mrwikiwikisir> How does it work
#1163 [15:56] <oldtopman> You ask a question, we answer it if it's applicable.
#1164 [15:56] <mrwikiwikisir> O ok
#1165 [15:56] <mrwikiwikisir> Is there a way you can help me with a problem
#1166 [15:57] <oldtopman> No, because when you quit, I can't talk to you.
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#1170 [16:01] <BlackSam> Hello I have a copy of minecraft.. it was migrated.. and the site says my e-mail is unknowen... I have sent 3 letters off to mojang.. and noone has contacted me.. it has been months that I can not use th e game ?
#1171 [16:01] <BlackSam> its like I never had an account at all
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#1177 [16:35] <BlackSam> found out what I need .. C u all ;-)
#1178 [16:35] <Elystus> cya
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#1180 [16:36] <Oposourus> Need help with mob spawning for essentials
#1181 [16:37] <Elystus> We don't support mods or plugins here.
#1182 [16:38] <Oposourus> But, thats what the last channel said
#1183 [16:38] <Oposourus> which one to I go to for essentials help?
#1184 [16:39] <Elystus> #bukkit
#1185 [16:40] <Oposourus> thanks
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#1189 [16:50] <basti> after breeding pigs, the wont drop anything -.- is this right or just unlucky?
#1190 [16:50] <Elystus> You mean they don't make a baby?
#1191 [16:51] <basti> they make babys but when they become adult they dont drop
#1192 [16:51] <basti> after killing
#1193 [16:54] <Elystus> .-. how many have you tired?
#1194 [16:54] <Elystus> tried*
#1195 [16:54] <basti> 10
#1196 [16:54] <Elystus> Maybe it is a bug
#1197 [16:55] <basti> okay because its strange -.- the first pigs i catched outside droped and every new pig from breeding wont
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#1200 [17:02] <kevinog> they said i cannot get a refund, but minecraft simply wont work on my pc, so is there any way i can get a refund?
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#1203 [17:03] <Eddie> lol Eddie_
#1204 [17:03] <Eddie_> Minecraft keeps crashing, won't let me play
#1205 [17:04] <Elystus> Lol
#1206 [17:04] <Eddie_> how do i fix it
#1207 [17:04] <Elystus> What exactly is happening?
#1208 [17:05] <Eddie_> I chose play in my browser
#1209 [17:05] <Eddie_> then screen pops up "Minecraft has crashed!"
#1210 [17:05] <Elystus> what else does it say?
#1211 [17:06] <Elystus> is there an error report?
#1212 [17:06] <Eddie_> Minecraft has stopped running because it has encountered a problem
#1213 [17:06] <Eddie_> yes
#1214 [17:06] <Elystus> pastebin.com
#1215 [17:06] <Elystus> put the entire error report there,
#1216 [17:06] <Eddie_> BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 --------
#1217 [17:06] <Elystus> ??>> Eddie_ pastebin
#1218 [17:07] <Eddie_> donbe
#1219 [17:07] <Eddie_> done
#1220 [17:07] <Elystus> Link?
#1221 [17:08] <Eddie_> link to pastebin?
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#1223 [17:08] <Elystus> a link to the page you put your error report on.
#1224 [17:09] <leaves> ive purchased minecraft through credit card but i havent gotten an email
#1225 [17:09] <Eddie_> http://pastebin.com/
#1226 [17:09] <Elystus> leaves: Was money taken out of your bank account (actually check to see if it was)?
#1227 [17:09] <Elystus> Eddie: put your error report in there and hit submit
#1228 [17:10] <leaves> pretty sure, i bought it
#1229 [17:10] <Elystus> Eddie_: Then give me the link.
#1230 [17:10] <leaves> okay
#1231 [17:10] <Elystus> leaves: Actually check your bank account.
#1232 [17:10] <Eddie_> http://pastebin.com/F8CDSsKe
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#1234 [17:11] <leaves> ill go check
#1235 [17:11] <Elystus> Eddie
#1236 [17:12] <Elystus> Eddie_: Can I get a dxdiag
#1237 [17:12] <Eddie_> a what?
#1238 [17:12] <Elystus> ??>> Eddie_ dxdiag
#1239 [17:12] <leaves> yes, 26.95 $ has been deducted for minecraft
#1240 [17:12] <Eddie_> what is that?
#1241 [17:12] <Elystus> ??>> Eddie_ win\dxdiag
#1242 [17:12] <Elystus> ??>> Eddie_ win/dxdiag
#1243 [17:12] <Elystus> There lol.
#1244 [17:13] <leaves> now what ?
#1245 [17:13] <Eddie_> what do you need me to do?
#1246 [17:13] <clarjon1> ??> eddie win/dxdiag
#1247 [17:13] <VoxelHead> eddie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1248 [17:13] <leaves> money has been deducted
#1249 [17:13] <VoxelHead> eddie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1250 [17:14] <Eddie_> no, not going to do that.
#1251 [17:14] <Eddie_> just refund my money please
#1252 [17:14] <Elystus> leaves: Then wait. If after 48 hours you do not have minecraft, then follow the instructions ehre: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1253 [17:14] <Elystus> Eddie_: Why not?
#1254 [17:14] <Elystus> Also, there are no refunds and non of us work for Mojang.
#1255 [17:14] <Elystus> none*
#1256 [17:14] <Eddie_> i have no idea what that is going to do, not sending any info like htat
#1257 [17:14] <Elystus> Eddie_: Want me to put mine up?
#1258 [17:14] <Eddie_> no, just want my money back
#1259 [17:15] <kevinog> yes put youras up
#1260 [17:15] <Elystus> There is no way to get your money back, so we might as well fix the issue
#1261 [17:15] <leaves> the thing is ive bought it and i HAVE waited for about a week, still nothing
#1262 [17:15] <Eddie_> hey leaves, can you see my chat too, I'm Eddie
#1263 [17:16] <Eddie_> I wouldn't buy it
#1264 [17:16] <leaves> i see it in red
#1265 [17:16] <Elystus> Eddie_: Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean he shouldn't buy it.
#1266 [17:16] <Elystus> also, my dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/Ef0gZN0L
#1267 [17:17] <Elystus> Also, Eddie_: If we were people taht did malicious things, it would already be done.
#1268 [17:17] <Eddie_> well, $26.99 is gone and it doesn't work
#1269 [17:17] <Elystus> Eddie_: If you cooperate, we can get it to work.
#1270 [17:17] <Eddie_> i shouldn't have to all the things you've told me
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#1272 [17:17] <lemonboxes> hello
#1273 [17:17] <Eddie_> trying, just not going thru that hassle
#1274 [17:17] <Eddie_> can i just download again?
#1275 [17:18] <Elystus> Eddie_: You can either go through the hassle and get the problem solved, or you can have just wasted 27 dollars.
#1276 [17:18] <Elystus> Which do you prefer.
#1277 [17:18] <Elystus> Eddie_: The problem is not with minecraft, the problem is with your computer.
#1278 [17:18] <oldtopman> Eddie_: There are no returns, and we're just a few volunteers trying to make it work for you.
#1279 [17:19] <Eddie_> Minecraft is not a complete release and you are blaming my PC
#1280 [17:19] <oldtopman> Eddie_: We know what we're doing. Do you want help, or not? We cannot refund you.
#1281 [17:20] <Elystus> Back in a few, just restarting.
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#1283 [17:20] <killnthedrama> any one here play minecraft on xbox
#1284 [17:20] <oldtopman> killnthedrama: Not that I know of.
#1285 [17:21] <killnthedrama> yea looking for help getting slime not working out to good
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#1288 [17:26] <teetor314> hello
#1289 [17:26] <Elystus> o/
#1290 [17:26] <Elystus> oldtopman: Wanna try helping me out.
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#1292 [17:27] <Elystus> All the files on my computer are suddenly read only.
#1293 [17:27] <oldtopman> Elystus: What filesystem?
#1294 [17:27] <Elystus> When I change them, they immediately go abck to read only.
#1295 [17:28] <oldtopman> hrm
#1296 [17:28] <oldtopman> What filesystem though? Or do you not know?
#1297 [17:28] <Elystus> You mean NFTS?
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#1301 [17:29] <Eddie> NTFS*
#1302 [17:29] <Elystus> LOL, typo :P
#1303 [17:29] <oldtopman> Elystus: Well, there are a lot of diferrent kinds, NTFS is one of them :)
#1304 [17:29] <Elystus> Okay, I didn't know that was the proper term for it.
#1305 [17:29] <Elystus> Its NFTS.
#1306 [17:30] <oldtopman> You're on Windows?
#1307 [17:30] <Elystus> yep
#1308 [17:30] <Elystus> They GreyVulpine
#1309 [17:30] <oldtopman> 7?
#1310 [17:30] <Elystus> thanks*
#1311 [17:30] <Elystus> Yes windows 7 64-bit
#1312 [17:32] <oldtopman> Elystus: My google fu brought this up =>http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/53095-file-folder-read-only-attribute-wont-disable.html
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#1318 [18:05] <AAElite> hello
#1319 [18:05] <AAElite> can i get some help
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#1321 [18:05] <AAElite> i think my account has been hacked
#1322 [18:05] <AAElite> can i speak to marc plz
#1323 [18:06] <Elystus> AAElite: What exactly happened?
#1324 [18:06] <AAElite> i cannot login to my account and my skin has been changed
#1325 [18:07] <Elystus> Do an malware scan (I use malwarebytes)
#1326 [18:07] <AAElite> ok
#1327 [18:07] <Elystus> then change the password to your email and your minecraft account.
#1328 [18:07] <AAElite> i can login to my mojang account but i cant sign in to my minecraft one
#1329 [18:08] <joe_> I cant connect to minecraft.net, or the game. I have played online before, I have full internet access, I do own the game, and I have sent off emails to mojang but no reply. help wolud be greatly apreciated.
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#1331 [18:08] <AAElite> when i login with my minecraft account it saz account migrated
#1332 [18:08] <Elystus> joe_: What do you mean by you cannot connect?
#1333 [18:08] <Elystus> AAElite: Log in with your email
#1334 [18:08] <Elystus> as your username
#1335 [18:08] <AAElite> it sez login failed when i do that
#1336 [18:09] <joe_> says login failed
#1337 [18:09] <Elystus> Then you may have had an error during the account migration AAElite. Go here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-in
#1338 [18:09] <Elystus> joe_: Is there html code where the newspanel is?
#1339 [18:10] <Elystus> and is it grey?
#1340 [18:10] <joe_> no i dont see any html code
#1341 [18:10] <AAElite> verified and still login failed
#1342 [18:11] <Elystus> AAElite: Read the entire article.
#1343 [18:11] <Elystus> joe_: Is any part of the launcher just completely black?
#1344 [18:11] <joe_> no
#1345 [18:11] <AAElite> what if i cant get my transaction id
#1346 [18:12] <Elystus> AAElite: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1347 [18:12] <AAElite> i cant get it
#1348 [18:12] <Elystus> joe_: When you say you cannot connect to minecraft.net. Do you mean in launcher or in browser?
#1349 [18:12] <joe_> both
#1350 [18:12] <Elystus> What happens when you try to connect in browser?
#1351 [18:13] <joe_> "oops, unknown username or password"
#1352 [18:13] <Elystus> Oh, so you jsut are unable to log in.,
#1353 [18:14] <Elystus> Okay try a password reset first of all.
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#1356 [18:15] <joe_> well, for once it worked, waiting on the email now, thanks Elystus
#1357 [18:15] <Elystus> joe_: Good to hear :)
#1358 [18:15] <Elystus> the email can take a little while to arrive.
#1359 [18:16] <Codarac> hey there
#1360 [18:16] <Elystus> Codarac: Are you unable to connect through the launcher?
#1361 [18:16] <joe_> Ok,well thank you for the help!
#1362 [18:16] <Elystus> YOu're welcome joe_! :)
#1363 [18:16] <Codarac> nope
#1364 [18:16] <Elystus> Codarac: Can you log in through minecraft.net.
#1365 [18:17] <Denizen> try logging in via the website
#1366 [18:17] <Codarac> tried doing it through the web browser too...just kept the java logo running forever
#1367 [18:17] <Denizen> yeah
#1368 [18:17] <Denizen> sounds like a java problem
#1369 [18:17] <Elystus> Codarac: But you were able to log in.
#1370 [18:17] <AAElite> ok what if i am unable to get my transaction ID
#1371 [18:17] <AAElite> ok what if i am unable to get my transaction ID
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#1373 [18:17] <Codarac> oh im logged into my profile...just cant get into game
#1374 [18:17] <Codarac> i can play offline too
#1375 [18:17] <Denizen> that's odd
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#1377 [18:18] <Codarac> just not through the browser or logging in
#1378 [18:18] <Elystus> let me test something quickly
#1379 [18:18] <Denizen> do you have a parental control program or something of the like running that may be blocking it
#1380 [18:18] <rawr> hi i just made a minecraftt multiplayer and now i cant sign in
#1381 [18:18] <Codarac> ive been playing it all day just fine
#1382 [18:18] <Elystus> Codarac: What changed?
#1383 [18:18] <Codarac> i updated my java and installed bukkit for some mods and now i cant log in
#1384 [18:18] <Elystus> Did you install something?
#1385 [18:18] <Guest69462> hi i just made a minecraftt multiplayer and now i cant sign in
#1386 [18:19] <Elystus> Codarac: Did you update to java 7?
#1387 [18:19] <Codarac> sure did
#1388 [18:19] <Elystus> Codarac: Is there grey where the news panel should be?
#1389 [18:19] <Codarac> yes
#1390 [18:19] <Codarac> with code at the top
#1391 [18:19] <Elystus> Boom and we have a winner
#1392 [18:19] <Elystus> Okay, this is perfect. I jsut finished my program to fix this :D
#1393 [18:19] <Elystus> just*
#1394 [18:20] <Codarac> brb
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#1396 [18:20] <Guest69462> i just made a minecraftt multiplayer and now i cant sign in
#1397 [18:21] <Elystus> Guest69462: What do you mean you made a minecraft multiplayer? Did you make a server?
#1398 [18:21] <Guest69462> ah yes my bad
#1399 [18:21] <AAElite> put ur ip as localhost
#1400 [18:21] <AAElite> ok now can i have some help
#1401 [18:21] <Guest69462> that didnt help
#1402 [18:22] <Elystus> Guest69462: If you are trying to connect to your server, first you need to make sure that it is actually running.
#1403 [18:22] <AAElite> are you runnung it on your computer
#1404 [18:22] <Elystus> then try connecting through your local ipv4 address.
#1405 [18:22] <Guest69462> i already did log into it before
#1406 [18:23] <Elystus> Guest69462: Make sure it is running then.
#1407 [18:23] <Guest69462> what is
#1408 [18:23] <AAElite> your server
#1409 [18:23] <Elystus> the server.
#1410 [18:23] <Codarac> ok
#1411 [18:23] <Codarac> so what do i do about the java 7 update?
#1412 [18:24] <Elystus> Codarac: Hold on, I want to test out the program.
#1413 [18:24] <Elystus> I jsut have to upload it first.
#1414 [18:24] <Codarac> ok
#1415 [18:24] <Codarac> is it something like i need to find an old version and go back to that?
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#1417 [18:24] <Guest69462> how do i tell if its running?
#1418 [18:25] <Guest69462> ?
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#1420 [18:27] <Guest69462> how do i tell if its running?
#1421 [18:27] <Elystus> Codarac: This is the mediafire link to it. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rrimuliiqhsgqch
#1422 [18:27] <Elystus> It may get flagged by your antivirus as it is a new program.
#1423 [18:28] <Elystus> Guest69462: open taskmanager
#1424 [18:28] <Guest69462> how do i tell if its working>
#1425 [18:28] <Elystus> Guest69462: If you see it there, then it is running.
#1426 [18:28] <Guest69462> how do i get to that
#1427 [18:28] <Elystus> ctrl + alt +del
#1428 [18:28] <Elystus> all at the same time.
#1429 [18:28] <Codarac> and what is this file?
#1430 [18:29] <Elystus> Codarac: Basically: It creates a shortcut on your desktop that forces java to use ipv4 when minecraft is launched.
#1431 [18:29] <Guest69462> it says my minecraft is running which it is but how do i run my server
#1432 [18:29] <Elystus> Guest69462: Find the file named minecraft_server.exe
#1433 [18:29] <Elystus> run that.
#1434 [18:30] <Codarac> ok because im running a server...didnt know if that would affect it any
#1435 [18:30] <Elystus> Codarac: It won't
#1436 [18:31] <Guest69462> its not there
#1437 [18:31] <Elystus> Guest69462: Did you download it?
#1438 [18:32] <Guest69462> yes
#1439 [18:32] <Codarac> so what do i do with the file and how long do i use it?
#1440 [18:32] <Elystus> Codarac: You run the file. It will create a shortcut on your desktop. You will have to use that for as long as you have java 7
#1441 [18:32] <Elystus> the shortcut*
#1442 [18:33] <Elystus> Guest69462: If you downloaded it, then the file named "Minecraft_server.exe" will be there somewhere.
#1443 [18:33] <Codarac> ah ok...well what about the bukkit server? i have to run that bat file for the server i just fixed up
#1444 [18:33] <Guest69462> do you know whaere
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#1446 [18:33] <Elystus> Codarac: Does the minecraft server not work either?
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#1448 [18:33] <Elystus> Guest69462: its probably in downloads.
#1449 [18:35] <Guest69462> i have windows xp will it be named minecraft_server
#1450 [18:36] <Elystus> Guest69462: Files will not change name based on operating system.
#1451 [18:36] <Codarac> i ran that file and then used the minecraft that showed up on the desktop and i still get the same problem
#1452 [18:36] <Elystus> odd...
#1453 [18:36] <Elystus> Can you press start and click on computer
#1454 [18:37] <Guest69462> it worked but do i have to have the minecraft server thing up
#1455 [18:37] <Elystus> then open C: and open program files.
#1456 [18:37] <Elystus> ^Codarac
#1457 [18:37] <Elystus> Guest69462: yes, that needs to stay open.
#1458 [18:37] <Codarac> done and done
#1459 [18:37] <Guest69462> everytime i use this server?
#1460 [18:37] <Elystus> Codarac: look for a file named java.
#1461 [18:38] <Elystus> and open it.
#1462 [18:38] <Codarac> done
#1463 [18:38] <Elystus> Guest69462: Yes.
#1464 [18:38] <Elystus> Codarac: What files are in it?
#1465 [18:38] <Guest69462> ok thanks!
#1466 [18:38] <Codarac> bin folder lib folder and some other random files
#1467 [18:38] <Elystus> Go up one folder
#1468 [18:38] <Elystus> what files are in it?
#1469 [18:39] <Elystus> folders*
#1470 [18:39] <Codarac> jre7
#1471 [18:39] <Elystus> .-.
#1472 [18:40] <Elystus> okay, right click on the shortcut that was made on your desktop.
#1473 [18:40] <Elystus> what does it say in target.
#1474 [18:40] <Elystus> sorry, first click properties.
#1475 [18:40] <Codarac> %programfiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#1476 [18:42] <Elystus> Oh, um. Is the launcher on the desktop?
#1477 [18:42] <Codarac> yes
#1478 [18:42] <Elystus> The actual launcher, not a shortcut.
#1479 [18:42] <Elystus> Hm... and the news panel is still grey and has html in it.
#1480 [18:43] <Codarac> yeah the actual launcher
#1481 [18:43] <Codarac> and yes
#1482 [18:43] <Codarac> still grey with html
#1483 [18:43] <Elystus> Use the shortcut that was created.
#1484 [18:43] <Elystus> Oh okay, we are miscommunicating a bit. :P
#1485 [18:43] <Codarac> yeah im using the one you made
#1486 [18:43] <Elystus> Codarac: Would you mind using team viewer?
#1487 [18:43] <Elystus> The program executed perfectly. And that should work.
#1488 [18:45] <Codarac> im tempted to find an old version of java and reinstall that and hope for the best
#1489 [18:45] <Elystus> you can, but it is best to stick with java 7
#1490 [18:45] <Elystus> I can fix it. I just need to see what is happening with my own eyes.
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#1492 [18:48] <jacksterg> i lost myy mine craft bin cam i get it back
#1493 [18:48] <Elystus> jacksterg: All you need to do is log in. Unless of course you are using a cracked client.
#1494 [18:49] <jacksterg> i logged in it still didn't come back
#1495 [18:49] <Elystus> jacksterg: Does the download stop part way through?
#1496 [18:49] <jacksterg> i am on a mac if that matter
#1497 [18:49] <jacksterg> what download??
#1498 [18:50] <Elystus> jacksterg: Log in through the launcher.
#1499 [18:50] <Elystus> It will automatically redownload the files.
#1500 [18:50] <jacksterg> what launcher>
#1501 [18:50] <Elystus> This one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip
#1502 [18:52] <jacksterg> i usually do it didn't redownload
#1503 [18:53] <Elystus> What happened?
#1504 [18:53] <Elystus> were you unable to log in? Or did the downlaod stop partway through,
#1505 [18:53] <jacksterg> i only lost the bin, texture pack folder, saves folder...
#1506 [18:54] <Elystus> jacksterg: It should redownlaod those when you log in through the launcher
#1507 [18:54] <jacksterg> it didnt
#1508 [18:54] <jacksterg> ???
#1509 [18:54] <Elystus> Also, the bin = the entire game.
#1510 [18:54] <Elystus> jacksterg: So what happened when you logged in through the launcher?
#1511 [18:55] <jacksterg> it just took me to the login thing then the main menu
#1512 [18:55] <Elystus> Then you are not missing the bin folder.
#1513 [18:56] <Elystus> Everything seems to be working. What is the problem?
#1514 [18:56] <jacksterg> then I'm missing the saves folder texture packs folder the worlds folder..
#1515 [18:56] <Elystus> Ahh, thats better. That is at least somewhat plausable.
#1516 [18:57] <jacksterg> oh I'm a noob
#1517 [18:57] <Elystus> jacksterg: They were there the whole time?
#1518 [18:57] <jacksterg> not the texture packs...
#1519 [18:59] <Elystus> Um, the texture packs folder should redownload when the launcher starts. But a test. On the menu screen, open texture packs. Then click open texture pack folder.
#1520 [18:59] <jacksterg> it doesn't do anything I'm on a mac
#1521 [19:00] <Elystus> Does that not exist for the mac version?
#1522 [19:00] * Elystus uses pc >_>
#1522 [19:01] <Elystus> My only suggestion is a force update, but I believe that only does the bin.
#1523 [19:01] <jacksterg> when you open the texture pack folder it takes you to finder and doesn't do anything
#1524 [19:01] <jacksterg> what should i do
#1525 [19:02] <Elystus> jacksterg: What are you sure that the window that is opened by click the open texture packs folder button isn't it. It should be empty if no texture packs are downlaoded. The default one is part of the code and is not in there.
#1526 [19:02] <Elystus> downloaded*
#1527 [19:02] <jacksterg> I'm sure
#1528 [19:02] <Elystus> My only suggestion is a force update.
#1529 [19:02] <Elystus> Other than that, I don't know.
#1530 [19:03] <jacksterg> and it isn't evan the default texture pack
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#1532 [19:03] <jacksterg> how do i force update
#1533 [19:03] <Elystus> jacksterg: On the screen before you log in on the launcher. THere will be a button named options. Click that. There will be a force update option. Click that and then log in.
#1534 [19:05] <jacksterg> i don't see a button saying click that
#1535 [19:05] <Elystus> It doesn't say click that, it says "options"
#1536 [19:05] <Elystus> click on the "options" button.
#1537 [19:06] <jacksterg> sorry i didn't see the options word i clicked it
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#1539 [19:06] <jacksterg> now what
#1540 [19:06] <Elystus> now there should be an option named "force update" click that.
#1541 [19:06] <Elystus> then log in.
#1542 [19:08] <jacksterg> there are still no folders
#1543 [19:08] <Elystus> .-. Well I have no idea. I am no expert on macs.
#1544 [19:09] <jacksterg> well thanks anyways do you have anyone there that are mac experts
#1545 [19:10] <Elystus> I don't think anybody thats great with a mac is here right now. Most are afk.
#1546 [19:10] <jacksterg> anyone that are good with mod installing
#1547 [19:11] <Elystus> #risucraft is the modding community.
#1548 [19:11] <Elystus> They may be able to help.
#1549 [19:11] <jacksterg> ok thank you so much
#1550 [19:11] <jacksterg> bye
#1551 [19:11] <Elystus> cya
#1552 [19:11] <Elystus> cya
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#1556 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> tnei recipes
#1557 [19:42] <Elystus> ?
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#1559 [19:42] <Elystus> btw disk, My two programs work perfectly as of now.
#1560 [19:43] <Ochretis> hey ely, you think of anything or anyone hat could hlp or not yet?
#1561 [19:43] <Elystus> DiskDaemon
#1562 [19:43] <Elystus> Wanna help us out.
#1563 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> pardon / cross-channel issues where one keyboard inadvertantly controls multiple machines :)
#1564 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> That's great to hear
#1565 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> what with?
#1566 [19:44] <Elystus> Ochretis is having server issues.
#1567 [19:44] <Elystus> BUt I couldn't figure out what the problem was.
#1568 [19:44] <Ochretis> i've tried everything i could think of so far lol
#1569 [19:44] <Elystus> Wait, Ochretis did you check to see if there were any firewall protocals for java?
#1570 [19:45] <Ochretis> well i tried playing with my firewall and my antivirus completely off
#1571 [19:45] <Ochretis> and ive made allowances for both java and minecraft
#1572 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Try it from safe mode + networking
#1573 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> That's not as useful as trying it from safe mode + networking
#1574 [19:46] <Ochretis> sorry, what exactly do u mean? like safe mode as in my computer in safe mode or the firewall?
#1575 [19:46] <Elystus> restart your computer in safe mode.
#1576 [19:46] <Elystus> +networking.
#1577 [19:46] <Ochretis> k thought thats what u meant
#1578 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> As in, using msconfig to set the boot parameters to be in safe mode, with networking support
#1579 [19:47] <Ochretis> aight brb
#1580 [19:48] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I was looking at the information that marc put for the special character thing. Isn't there a manual way of doing it?
#1581 [19:48] <Elystus> so we don't have to link a batch file or anything.
#1582 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> The only two options are to store the minecaft data outside of the users area, or to use a different user account that doesn't have that trouble in its pathname
#1583 [19:50] <Elystus> yea, we could give them commands to put in cmd prompt.
#1584 [19:50] <Elystus> That way they will not have to transfer all their data.
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#1586 [19:51] <Elystus> Disk: I am just going to email Marc a few corrections.
#1587 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> I guess that Mojang don't want to deal with issues of the data being stored in different locations, which I can agree with
#1588 [19:52] <Elystus> Yea, I agree with that.
#1589 [19:53] <Elystus> Marc asked Dinnerbone to look into it today.
#1590 [19:53] <ShaRose> technically, they COULD escape it
#1591 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Then what happens when you have special characters in the username?
#1592 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> that's the best option
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#1594 [19:54] <Ochretis> aight now what
#1595 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Though the majority of issues has the ! at the end of the folder path, many have foreign characters in the username, which can cause the same issue
#1596 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Ochretis: Now that you are in safe mode + networking, test the server
#1597 [19:55] <Elystus> Ochretis: try starting the server.
#1598 [20:00] <Ochretis> ok this never happened b4, but now its saying...
#1599 [20:00] <Ochretis> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#1600 [20:00] <Ochretis> never got an error b4 trying to get on >_>;
#1601 [20:00] <Elystus> minecraft or the server?
#1602 [20:00] <Ochretis> minecraft
#1603 [20:00] <Elystus> I am guessing minecraft
#1604 [20:01] <Ochretis> yeah this is b4 the mojang screen
#1605 [20:01] <Elystus> That usually indicates a graphics driver issue.
#1606 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> Ochretis: Are you able to connect to the server from somewhere else on your local network?
#1607 [20:01] <Ochretis> but never had thi sissue b4, why now?
#1608 [20:02] <Ochretis> uhm i tried logging onto the server from my gf's computer using same network but had same problem as i do
#1609 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> Ochretis: Because you are in safe mode, which deliberately doesn't load many things
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#1611 [20:04] <Ochretis> ah so since im on safe mode, for some reason or another its not loading my graphics river?
#1612 [20:04] <Ochretis> driver*
#1613 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> Ochretis: correct. It looks like if we are going to test your server, it will need to be connected to from elsewhere while you are in safe mode
#1614 [20:05] <Ochretis> ok so you want me to try logging on my gf's computer and trying safe mode on there?
#1615 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> Ochretis: It would be preferable to keep the server where it is, and to use some other machine to log in to it
#1616 [20:07] <Ochretis> well its not my server, its my friends back home that i cant reach/ i cant reach any server
#1617 [20:07] <Ochretis> so the server will still be where it was b4 >_>;
#1618 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, so safe mode won't help there then. Sorry, my understanding of the problem was misleading
#1619 [20:08] <Ochretis> ok, sorry i could fully explain m ysituation if ud like
#1620 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> I thought you had a problem with your own server. Nevermind me then.
#1621 [20:08] <Elystus> Sorry, I confused Ochretis with someone else from yesterday.
#1622 [20:08] <Ochretis> sorry >< i was afraid that you thought that the way u were talking
#1623 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry, but I have to get lunch and head off for the day
#1624 [20:09] <Ochretis> oh ok, thnx for trying anyway
#1625 [20:09] <Ochretis> sry ely, didnt know you thought i was someone else lol
#1626 [20:10] <Ochretis> anyway, I'm assuming that your answer is the same, that you couldn't figure it out atm yes?
#1627 [20:11] <Elystus> Yea. I couldn't figure it out.
#1628 [20:11] <Ochretis> alright np, should i try asking disk, next time he's on?
#1629 [20:11] <Elystus> Yea.
#1630 [20:12] <Ochretis> alright thanks
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#1632 [20:31] <samhest> My minecraft wont work on the in browser or in the downloaded version
#1633 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> And what happens?
#1634 [20:32] <samhest> i think it has to do with MC patcher
#1635 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Then do a force update through the launcher
#1636 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Modded minecraft doesn't launch through the in-browser client
#1637 [20:33] <samhest> how do i force update
#1638 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Launch the downloaded client. Before logging in, hit "options" above "log in". Hit the force update button
#1639 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> THen log in
#1640 [20:34] <samhest> thank you that really helped
#1641 [20:35] <samhest> do you know any cool seeds
#1642 [20:36] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/50-seeds/
#1643 [20:36] <samhest> thank you bye
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#1645 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ??+ seeds|Some people have been collecting interesting seeds here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/50-seeds/
#1646 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> Before I go, An update list of voxelhead faqs and content (including that seeds one) is up at http://tinypaste.com/c61b1f30
#1647 [20:56] <Elystus> thanks DiskDaemon
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#1649 [20:59] <Jager> Hello, I have a issue with Minecraft. I just downloaded the exe, but when I run and log into minecraft nothing happens
#1650 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean 'nothing happens'?
#1651 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft start up? Do you see a launcher? Does it black screen? Does it crash?
#1652 [21:00] <Jager> the exe screen closes
#1653 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> (hint: That's not nothing)
#1654 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error report?
#1655 [21:00] <Jager> not a crash that I can tell
#1656 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> Does the in-browser version work?
#1657 [21:00] <Jager> no error
#1658 [21:00] <Jager> in browser ends in a white screen
#1659 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#1660 [21:01] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1661 [21:01] <Jager> ok give me a min to get the specs
#1662 [21:02] <Jager> Asus gaming laptop
#1663 [21:02] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: Do you think it would be useful to make a program that makes a parses a dxdiag and gets you your drivers, and will tell you if your specs are below minimum specs?
#1664 [21:03] <Jager> 6gig i7 processor, 6 gig of ram
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#1666 [21:04] <Jager> 64 bit windoes 7
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#1668 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: possibly. I program per se woudn't be needed, just some greps and switch statements (:
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#1670 [21:08] <Elystus> I gtg cya o/
#1671 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> couple things you can try, Jager. First, make sure you have Java 1.6
#1672 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jager getjava
#1673 [21:08] <VoxelHead> Jager: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1674 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> second, reinstall Minecraft:
#1675 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jager win/reinst
#1676 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Jager: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1677 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Jager: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1678 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> third, try a new user profile:
#1679 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jager win/profile
#1680 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Jager: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1681 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Jager: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1682 [21:09] <Jager> I tried the reinstall and I have up to date java
#1683 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? version
#1684 [21:09] <VoxelHead> version: When you are asked what version of something you are running, DO NOT just say 'the latest'. We know what the latest version is; we want to confirm that you are actually running the latest version. Please, PLEASE give us actual version or release numbers.
#1685 [21:09] <Jager> kk, one sec
#1686 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/version
#1687 [21:10] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1688 [21:10] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1689 [21:11] <Jager> Java SE 7 update 5, OS windows 7 6.1
#1690 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jager java/1.7
#1691 [21:12] <VoxelHead> Jager: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1692 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jager getjava
#1693 [21:12] <VoxelHead> Jager: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1694 [21:12] <Jager> on it
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#1697 [21:18] <Minecrafter529> i need help with something
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#1699 [21:20] <Minecrafter> I NEED HELP
#1700 [21:21] <Andrio> what's the problem?
#1701 [21:21] <Minecrafter> i cannot open my minecraft saves
#1702 [21:22] <Andrio> what do you mean? Do they not show up in the single player worlds list?
#1703 [21:22] <Minecrafter> when i tried to play in them, nothing came up and in %appdata% they didnt have data
#1704 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> When you open up %appdata% -- what do you see?
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#1706 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - Hello?
#1707 [21:24] <Minecrafter> my saves and texture pack folders where not highlighted
#1708 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - Do you see a .minecraft folder in %appdat%?
#1709 [21:24] <Minecrafter> yes, when i went in it, all of my saved worlds where not highlighted
#1710 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - highlighted?
#1711 [21:24] <Minecrafter> well like bold
#1712 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - Do you see a saves folder?
#1713 [21:26] <Minecrafter> yes, but when i went to go play in my worlds, nothing came up
#1714 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - Did anything happen to your computer when you were playing in your world? Computer shut off?
#1715 [21:27] <Minecrafter> \
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#1717 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#1718 [21:29] <Minecrafter> well i got this nasty virus and had to remove it. it damaged my harddrive but i was able to restore to a back up
#1719 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Then you may need to blame that virus. Do you see your world in the saves folder?
#1720 [21:29] <Andrio> Minecrafter, what's in your saves folder?
#1721 [21:30] <Minecrafter> yes all of my worlds are there, but i cannot open them in minecraft
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#1723 [21:31] <Minecrafter> i think the problem is that the files were corrupted. im on the minecraft wiki that says how to recover the worlds
#1724 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Minecrafter - Try MCedit, see if you can open the world in that
#1725 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#1726 [21:31] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1727 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> If not, then the world is not recoverable
#1728 [21:31] <Minecrafter> ok
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#1736 [22:03] <bam> hay i balt the game but it saying i didint
#1737 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Did you get a confirmation email after paying?
#1738 [22:03] <bam> no
#1739 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you called your bank or financial institution to confirm payment?
#1740 [22:04] <bam> ya u tuck 2 payment
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#1742 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> As we're community volunteers here, we have no connection to Mojang.
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#1744 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> We cannot check to see if money was received. All we can offer, is advice. If you did not get a confirmation email, most likely, payment was not made to Mojang.
#1745 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> To confirm, please call your bank, see if the transaction was completed
#1746 [22:05] <bam> ok but what can i do to git it to work
#1747 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> By confirming that payment was made.
#1748 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> If it wasn't, your account won't be credited with premium status
#1749 [22:07] * duycuong1986_cm [duycuong1986_cm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1750 [22:08] <duycuong1986_cm> hello
#1751 [22:08] <duycuong1986_cm> help meeeeeeeee
#1752 [22:09] <duycuong1986_cm> thanks
#1753 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - Help you with what?
#1754 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - Hellp?
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#1756 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - Could you tell us what you need help with?
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#1758 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - What's the problem?
#1759 [22:10] <duycuong1986_cm> i want script auto prot service
#1760 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - What client do you use?
#1761 [22:10] <duycuong1986_cm> i'm oper
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#1763 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - That's great. Then you should already know what to do, since you run a network
#1764 [22:11] <duycuong1986_cm> no
#1765 [22:11] <duycuong1986_cm> protect all service
#1766 [22:11] <duycuong1986_cm> script
#1767 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - What client do you use?
#1768 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - What sort of script are you looking for? What language do you need it in?
#1769 [22:12] <duycuong1986_cm> i'm a member in irc
#1770 [22:12] <duycuong1986_cm> give me scrip protect all service
#1771 [22:12] <duycuong1986_cm> thanks
#1772 [22:12] <duycuong1986_cm> :(
#1773 [22:13] <Denizen> you need to try and explain things clearly for us to understand what you mean
#1774 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - Without specifics, we have no idea what you're trying to ask of us.
#1775 [22:15] <duycuong1986_cm> I need script that automatically protects irc
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#1777 [22:15] <duycuong1986_cm> can anyone tell me?
#1778 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - There's thousands of such things out there. Could you elaborate?
#1779 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> What client do you run? What language do you need it in? Are you running a dedicated client? Are you running a webbased client? Are you running it from a browser?
#1780 [22:15] <duycuong1986_cm> i can not
#1781 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing we can do to help you.
#1782 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> It's like going to your mechanic, and asking them to help you fix your car, without giving them any specifics when they ask, "What's wrong with it"
#1783 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> "Well, it's a car, fix it."
#1784 [22:17] <Denizen> "it's that thing that does the thing that helps it run, yeah"
#1785 [22:17] <duycuong1986_cm> :(
#1786 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> If you care to help us better understand the problem, we can help you fix whatever you need to have done. Without it, we have no idea where to start.
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#1788 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> No one understood what I said
#1789 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> because I'm not fluent in English
#1790 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> :(
#1791 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> You need a script to help you protect your computer from IRC. We get that. How are you threatened? What client do you use?
#1792 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> [09:18] <@GreyVulpine> You need a script to help you protect your computer from IRC. We get that. How are you threatened? What client do you use?
#1793 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> ok
#1794 [22:18] <duycuong1986_cm> yes
#1795 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> How is it threatened? Are you downloading viruses? Are you using fservs?
#1796 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Do you want a channel management bot? What is it that you want from us?
#1797 [22:19] <duycuong1986_cm> yes
#1798 [22:19] <duycuong1986_cm> GreyVulpine
#1799 [22:19] <duycuong1986_cm> give me
#1800 [22:19] <duycuong1986_cm> pls
#1801 [22:19] <duycuong1986_cm> thanks
#1802 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> duycuong1986_cm - You, and millions of other people.
#1803 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.egghelp.org/enhance.htm
#1804 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Here you go. Eggdrop bot.
#1805 [22:20] <duycuong1986_cm> ok
#1806 [22:20] <duycuong1986_cm> thanks GreyVulpine
#1807 [22:21] <duycuong1986_cm> thanks GreyVulpine dear
#1808 [22:21] <Denizen> <duycuong1986_cm> thanks GreyVulpine dear
#1809 [22:21] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1809 [22:22] <Denizen> what a nice boy, huh dear?
#1810 [22:27] <Jackson413> did he deliver a threat?
#1811 [22:27] <Jackson413> delivered**
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#1815 [22:46] <carloscalage> Hello i want know if minecraft will offer on Steam, because it's easy and safe to buy
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#1818 [22:48] <Andrio> I don't think so.
#1819 [22:52] <slowfi> I really hated steam software back in the old halflife 2 days. do people really want that?
#1820 [22:52] <Andrio> Steam software is OK, but I don't like Steam.
#1821 [22:53] <slowfi> it really screwed everything up
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#1825 [23:13] <weirdos52> .
#1826 [23:13] <Elystus> .-.
#1827 [23:13] <Denizen> ._.
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#1829 [23:14] <weirdos52> how do i be a controler
#1830 [23:14] <Elystus> weirdos52: of?
#1831 [23:14] <weirdos52> irc i think
#1832 [23:15] <Elystus> weirdos52: You have to join the irc channel first, or you have to get oped/voiced by an op.
#1833 [23:16] <weirdos52> ?
#1834 [23:16] <weirdos52> command?
#1835 [23:17] <weirdos52> nvm
#1836 [23:17] <weirdos52> thanks
#1837 [23:17] <weirdos52> thanks
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#1839 [23:17] <Elystus> ...
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#1843 [23:32] <Kass> hey guys
#1844 [23:32] <Kass> Grey you around?
#1845 [23:32] <Kass> or Xales
#1846 [23:32] <Elystus> What do you need?
#1847 [23:33] <Kass> to talk to those guys lol
#1848 [23:33] <Elystus> Why
#1849 [23:33] <Elystus> If you tell me your issue, I can help.
#1850 [23:33] <Kass> I like them?
#1851 [23:33] <Kass> and i dont have an issue
#1852 [23:33] <Kass> got my server up so im all good
#1853 [23:33] <Elystus> Oh here to talk? :P
#1854 [23:33] <Kass> more or less
#1855 [23:33] <Elystus> Thats good! :D
#1856 [23:33] <Kass> if those basterds would be on once in a while
#1857 [23:34] <Elystus> Grey is always here pretty much.
#1858 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> We're always here...
#1859 [23:34] <Elystus> Just have to ping him.
#1860 [23:34] <Elystus> Point proven :P
#1861 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> If there's something you need, just ping me.
#1862 [23:34] <Kass> hot damn hey grey
#1863 [23:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#1863 [23:34] <Kass> sorry dont know how to ping someone
#1864 [23:34] <Kass> anywho this is triggerdusk
#1865 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Just mention my name.
#1866 [23:34] <Elystus> just say their name :)
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#1868 [23:34] <Kass> oh thats easy
#1869 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Many IRC clients have a feature that grabs the user's attention when their nick is mentioned.
#1870 [23:35] <Kass> im using chatzilla
#1871 [23:36] <skyboy> Kass
#1872 [23:36] <skyboy> see?
#1873 [23:37] <Kass> ahhh cool
#1874 [23:37] <Elystus> I know that webchat makes the line of text red if you are pinged.
#1875 [23:37] <Kass> xales
#1876 [23:39] <Elystus> Lol Xales: die@inafire.com
#1877 [23:39] <Elystus> I just noticed that :P
#1878 [23:39] <Kass> o.O
#1879 [23:40] <Elystus> I wish I had put my C++ files on this computer .-.
#1880 [23:40] <Kass> i actualy do need ur help grey
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#1882 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1883 [23:40] <Kass> or anyone who mite know
#1884 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Just ask.
#1885 [23:40] <Elystus> go on
#1886 [23:40] <Kass> how do i install mods on a normal minecraft server?
#1887 [23:41] <Elystus> you cannot on a normal one
#1888 [23:41] * GreyVulpine coughs lightly
#1888 [23:41] <Kass> Frell
#1889 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Some mods are not bukkit plugins, but modloaderMP files that you mod just like you do with minecraft.jar
#1890 [23:41] <Elystus> You need to get craftbukkit and get plugins
#1891 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> You just open up minecraft_server.jar and put those files in the same way.
#1892 [23:41] <Kass> my bukkit isnt running
#1893 [23:42] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Oh, forgot about those.
#1894 [23:42] <Kass> like it cant access the minecraft.jar it keeps saying
#1895 [23:42] <Kass> like i would on my client?
#1896 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> See: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/86765-125-sdks-mods-v1-apr-4-modloadermp-only/
#1897 [23:42] <Elystus> Kass: Yea
#1898 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> They're not as diverse or plentiful like bukkit's plugins, but it's possible to mod the vanilla server.
#1899 [23:42] <Kass> so what would modloaderMP do for me?
#1900 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't really tell you. I don't use it.
#1901 [23:43] <Kass> oh ok
#1902 [23:43] <Kass> well heres another question
#1903 [23:43] <Kass> anyone know of free minecraft server hosting?
#1904 [23:44] <Elystus> No
#1905 [23:44] <Elystus> But there are hosts on the forums.
#1906 [23:44] <Elystus> But they are not free.
#1907 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Really doesn't exist. Best you can do for free is to host it yourself
#1908 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> People have electricity costs, bandwidth costs, maintenance costs... they're not going to host anything for free.
#1909 [23:45] <Kass> i need a crappy laptop that can run 24/7 to do that
#1910 [23:45] <Kass> i understand
#1911 [23:45] <Kass> anyone who would liek to take a look at my server just PM me
#1912 [23:45] <Kass> imma try and kick my craftbukkit server to work
#1913 [23:47] <Elystus> Kass: I can attempt to help you get craftbukkit working. Its been a while since I ran one, but it can't have changed to much...
#1914 [23:47] <Kass> i do what they say to do to run it but it cant get to the .jar file appaerntly
#1915 [23:48] <Elystus> What is in the batch file that you are using to start the server?
#1916 [23:48] <Elystus> also, don't post it here, use pastebin.
#1917 [23:50] <Kass> what do you mean?
#1918 [23:50] <Elystus> Kass: You have to use a batch file to start the bukkit server. WHat is in that server?
#1919 [23:51] <Elystus> what is in the batch file?*
#1920 [23:52] <Kass> oh the .bat file
#1921 [23:53] <Elystus> yep
#1922 [23:53] <Kass> whats in it is what they say to copy and paste into it
#1923 [23:53] <Elystus> Is the bat file located in the same folder as the jar?
#1924 [23:55] <Elystus> I found the issue.
#1925 [23:55] <Elystus> the batch file is directing to the wrong file.
#1926 [23:55] <Kass> yes it is in the same folder
#1927 [23:55] <Kass> so then what should i do?
#1928 [23:55] <Elystus> put this in http://pastebin.com/DQxhbS0S
#1929 [23:56] <Elystus> That is compatible with the latest version of craftbukkit.
#1930 [23:58] <Kass> so with this make a new .bat file?
#1931 [23:58] <Elystus> just replace what was in the old batch file.
#1932 [23:58] <Kass> ah ok
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