#1 [00:00] <emmettIV> i was just here about 15 min. ago and greyvulpine told me to submit something then restart my computer and then check and see if minecraft works but it still doesnt
#2 [00:01] <baku> who was that to?
#3 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Try these instructions then: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#4 [00:01] <Yodcal> Let me check.
#5 [00:05] <Yodcal> java version "1.6.0_29"
#6 [00:07] <emmettIV> okay i have the black box up and running what now
#7 [00:08] <Yodcal> Sidenote: The pc I can currently connect with is on a wired connection, while the two macs, along with the pc hosting the server, are all wireless. The pc is the only machine yet to be able to connect.
#8 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Does minecraft run?
#9 [00:10] <emmettIV> checking
#10 [00:11] <emmettIV> no it still says bad video card drivers
#11 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Did the black window pop up minecraft?
#12 [00:12] <emmettIV> no it just popped up the black window
#13 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error?
#14 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> What does it say?
#15 [00:13] <emmettIV> i will paste it in the irc
#16 [00:13] <emmettIV> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 7/23/12 11:10 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#17 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> I meant, in the black window
#18 [00:15] <emmettIV> could not find or load main class net.minecraft.laucherframe
#19 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Did you download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download ?
#20 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, minecraft.jar
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#22 [00:17] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Would you like me to give you the exe that I redid today that creates a batch file for the exe?
#23 [00:17] <hunter> when i try to play the demo it says wrinting error
#24 [00:17] <emmettIV> was that the link that u gave me in the begining
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#26 [00:17] <Elystus> emmettIV: ignore what I am saying right now :P
#27 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - It's in the instructions
#28 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Elystus - Maybe..
#29 [00:18] <hunter> i am do the clasic
#30 [00:18] <emmettIV> then yes i did download that
#31 [00:18] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Let me put it through a few more test situations and add a thing or two.
#32 [00:18] <hunter> dewho is helping me
#33 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Did you place the .bat file in the same folder as the minecraft.jar?
#34 [00:19] <Elystus> hunter: Can you put the full error report on pastebin.com
#35 [00:19] <emmettIV> yes it is there
#36 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Is it called minecraft.jar?
#37 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Or is it minecraft.exe?
#38 [00:21] <emmettIV> minecraft exe
#39 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> The instructions were to download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
#40 [00:23] <emmettIV> it doesnt put a download file in the download folder it right away starts the games
#41 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> !client
#42 [00:24] <emmettIV> wait i found it
#43 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Please grab - https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar -- and place it in the folder where you have the .bat file
#44 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Then run the .bat file you made, again
#45 [00:27] <hunter> it says an error accured while loading the applet please contact support to resolve this issue fatal error(5)write error
#46 [00:28] <hunter> Elystus are you there
#47 [00:28] <Elystus> yes, sorry.
#48 [00:29] <Elystus> hunter: are you on a mac?
#49 [00:29] <emmettIV> i downloaded the jar one and ran the black window then tryed to play minecraft and it still didnt work
#50 [00:29] <hunter> no
#51 [00:29] <hunter> i dont know
#52 [00:30] <Elystus> hunter: Are you trying to do the free version of minecraft on their website, also known as the classic version?
#53 [00:30] <hunter> yes
#54 [00:30] <Elystus> hunter: Do you have java 7?
#55 [00:30] <hunter> all i know is that i have java
#56 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Did the .bat file launch minecraft?
#57 [00:31] <Elystus> hunter: I am going to guess that you are on windows?
#58 [00:31] <hunter> yes i am
#59 [00:31] <emmettIV> no it didnt
#60 [00:31] <Elystus> hunter: Press the "r" and the "Windows" key at the same time
#61 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Then what did the black window say when you launched it?
#62 [00:32] <Elystus> hunter: Then type in cmd and press enter.
#63 [00:32] <hunter> what is the window key
#64 [00:32] <Elystus> ??>> hunter win/key
#65 [00:32] <Elystus> ??>> hunter win/key/image
#66 [00:33] <emmettIV> the same thing as the one before could not find or load main class net.minecraft.laucherframe
#67 [00:33] <hunter> ok
#68 [00:33] <hunter> then what bar i put it in
#69 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Did you download minecraft.jar and place it by the .bat file?
#70 [00:34] <Elystus> hunter, is command prompt open (the black box)
#71 [00:34] <hunter> how do you do that
#72 [00:34] <emmettIV> in the folder i made yes
#73 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Is it named exactly 'minecraft.jar' ?
#74 [00:34] <Elystus> hunter: press the r key and the windows key at the same time. It will bring up a window named run. Type in cmd and hit enter. It will bring up command prompt.
#75 [00:34] <emmettIV> the folder or minecraft
#76 [00:35] <hunter> the window says run
#77 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - minecraft
#78 [00:35] <Elystus> yes, now type in cmd and press enter in that window hunter.
#79 [00:35] <emmettIV> yes it says that
#80 [00:36] <hunter> ok then what
#81 [00:36] <Elystus> is the black box there?
#82 [00:36] <hunter> yes\
#83 [00:36] <Elystus> okay type this : java -version
#84 [00:37] <Elystus> What does it say for java version hunter?
#85 [00:37] <hunter> it is not working
#86 [00:37] <Elystus> java -version
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#88 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> emmettIV - Hmm... Try: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/333876-125-mcerror/
#89 [00:42] <hunter> if i dont have what do i do
#90 [00:43] <hunter> java 7 do i download it
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#92 [00:44] <hunter> Elystus are you there
#93 [00:45] <Elystus> hunter: Do you have java 7?
#94 [00:45] <hunter> no
#95 [00:45] <Elystus> Thats fine then.
#96 [00:45] <Elystus> As to the error, we do not know much about classic minecraft.
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#98 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Try clearing browser's cache
#99 [00:46] <emmettIV> okay after i pressed a key it pulled up minecraft and now works
#100 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> If using IE, go into %temp% and clear any folders labeled minecraft
#101 [00:47] <emmettIV> okay
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#103 [00:52] <hunter> hi
#104 [00:52] <hunter> how do you upgrade
#105 [00:53] <hunter> hello
#106 [00:53] <hunter> is eney buddy here
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#116 [01:26] <jado9814> Hello my brother's Minecraft game will not download fully. It goes to a random percentage then stops. I had this problem before on mine but forgot how to fix it. I suspect it has to do with avg.
#117 [01:27] <Elystus> if he has AVG, disable it.
#118 [01:27] <jado9814> Isn't that dangerous if there isn't any virus protection on?
#119 [01:28] <Elystus> Turn it on straight after minecraft downloads the files.
#120 [01:28] <jado9814> Allright I'll tell him to try it.
#121 [01:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Jado, you could always swtich to malwarebytes/Microsoft Security Essentials. ^.^
#122 [01:30] <Elystus> ^
#123 [01:34] <jado9814> All right thanks so much, it worked. I remeber doing something like this for my own a few months ago but couldn't remember if I had to disable the whole thing.
#124 [01:35] <Elystus> You can just disable the link scanner, but a lot of people don't know how to. So now I just say disable the whole thing.
#125 [01:36] <jado9814> That's the weird part, I did disable the link scanner but it didn't do anything.
#126 [01:36] <jado9814> That's why I looked here.
#127 [01:37] <jado9814> Thanks again though, have a good night.
#128 [01:38] <Elystus> You too! :)
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#132 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#133 [01:55] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (1:55a Jul 24 12) temp(75.2 F / 24.0 C) cond(Clear) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(80%) dewpnt(69 F / 20 C) bp(29.87 in / 1011 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#134 [01:55] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the morning, then clear. High of 88F. Winds from the NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
#135 [01:56] <Elystus> Its seems like a nice day in hell
#136 [01:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#137 [01:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Think I should come?
#138 [02:03] * Elystus sends a limmo for Crisco
#138 [02:03] <Elystus> CrusaderDeleters
#139 [02:03] <Elystus> >_>
#140 [02:03] <Elystus> <_<
#141 [02:03] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#142 [02:03] <Elystus> I meant CrusaderDeleters lol, not crisco
#143 [02:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh lol.
#144 [02:03] * CrusaderDeleters hops in.
#144 [02:03] <Elystus> Stupid tab
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#162 [03:54] <Nathan> anyone there?
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#164 [03:55] <Andrio> Hello, Nathan
#165 [03:55] <DICKHEAD> hi
#166 [03:55] <Andrio> Hi
#167 [03:55] <DICKHEAD> what specifacations do u need to run minecraft
#168 [03:55] <Nathan> hello, i need some help im trying to play free mulitplayer verson of minecraft
#169 [03:55] <DICKHEAD> ok
#170 [03:55] <Andrio> Nathan, the classic version?
#171 [03:56] <Nathan> yes
#172 [03:56] <DICKHEAD> erm
#173 [03:56] <DICKHEAD> in browser ?
#174 [03:56] <Andrio> look at this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#175 [03:56] <Nathan> when im trying to connect to a server it says fatal error occured (5) a device attached to the system is not functioning
#176 [03:57] <DICKHEAD> in browser
#177 [03:57] <DICKHEAD> or installed
#178 [03:57] <Nathan> mozilla
#179 [03:57] <DICKHEAD> kk
#180 [03:57] <Nathan> in browser
#181 [03:57] <DICKHEAD> well do you have a good connection
#182 [03:57] <Nathan> yes
#183 [03:58] <Nathan> i was playing yesterday then just today this happen
#184 [03:58] <DICKHEAD> and do you have all the java plugins installed
#185 [03:58] <Nathan> yea
#186 [03:58] <DICKHEAD> dhave u updated the plugins
#187 [03:58] <Nathan> yup
#188 [03:58] <DICKHEAD> well i would try it in chrome
#189 [03:58] <Nathan> kk
#190 [03:59] <DICKHEAD> and that should support the java better
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#192 [04:00] <DrTechnofreak> hi
#193 [04:00] <DrTechnofreak> hi
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#200 [04:59] <phil__> please help, when i launch minecraft it says : 'error, could not create the java virtual machine. Error: a fatal error has accured, program will exit
#201 [05:04] <phil__> Hello?
#202 [05:07] <lemon-rev> phil__
#203 [05:07] <lemon-rev> goto java.com < make sure java is totally up to date
#204 [05:10] <phil__> yes, its up to date
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#208 [05:54] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
#209 [05:54] <DavidNeedsHelp> sweet
#210 [05:54] <DavidNeedsHelp> Sup guys
#211 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> hi
#212 [05:59] <DavidNeedsHelp> UGH
#213 [05:59] <DavidNeedsHelp> anyone remmber the commands for world guard?
#214 [05:59] <DavidNeedsHelp> making it not griefing able?
#215 [06:03] <DavidNeedsHelp> bored
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#223 [06:59] <Lord_of_Cake> "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.nThis can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers." I've updated my drivers but haven't been able to run Minecraft successfully. I have the Windows 8 Release Preview and I think that might have something to do with it. Can anyone help me with this please?n
#224 [07:00] <Morrolan> Updated drivers and preview versions of an operating system don't really go hand in hand.
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#226 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: There is perhaps something we may be able to do to help
#227 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> ??> Lord_of_Cake win/dxdiag
#228 [07:04] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Cake: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#229 [07:04] <VoxelHead> Lord_of_Cake: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#230 [07:07] <Lord_of_Cake> Sorry I'm taking a while, my Computers being slow today.
#231 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> If it's any consolation, I have minecraft running on a laptop with win 8 preview, and it can host a server without any trouble too
#232 [07:09] <Lord_of_Cake> http://pastebin.com/NpQJgs1v
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#234 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: Your graphics card has 246mb of graphics memory, which is banging on the bottom of the barrel of what's acceptable. That's one of the minimum requirements for the game.
#235 [07:12] <Lord_of_Cake> So what do you suggest I do?
#236 [07:12] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/intel
#237 [07:12] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#239 [07:13] <Lord_of_Cake> gpu/intel?
#240 [07:14] <DrTechnofreak> what
#241 [07:14] <DiskDaemon> It's a way of getting information from our tame bot.
#242 [07:14] <Lord_of_Cake> okay
#243 [07:15] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: The drivers at http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18223&keyword=gma+950&lang=eng look to be like they could be useful
#244 [07:15] <DrTechnofreak> hi
#245 [07:15] <Lord_of_Cake> okay I'm downloading them now
#246 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: There may also be a solution for you at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/354888-fix-for-intel-gma-950-graphics-problems/
#247 [07:16] <Lord_of_Cake> Thanks, I'll read that while the drivers are downloading.
#248 [07:19] <UncleOwen> Hi. Is anyone here who could have a look at my account? I haven't received a confirmation mail yet. I've already filed a ticket last week, but haven't received an answer yet. Is there a backlog on tickets?
#249 [07:22] <Necrodoom> UncleOwen: this IRC chat is unoffical
#250 [07:22] <Lord_of_Cake> DiskDaemon, I've got to restart my computer so I'll be on in a few minutes.
#251 [07:22] <UncleOwen> oh, ok :(
#252 [07:23] <DiskDaemon> UncleOwen: Here in Mojangs info on when you'll hear back from emails
#253 [07:23] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#254 [07:23] <UncleOwen> ah, nice, thank you
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#256 [07:27] <Lord_of_Cake> I'm back.
#257 [07:28] <Lord_of_Cake> I've tried both fixes and neither have worked.
#258 [07:29] <Lord_of_Cake> DiskDaemon?
#259 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: Are you using a virtual machine for windows 8?
#260 [07:30] <Lord_of_Cake> Virtual Machine?
#261 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft requires direct access to accellerated video card drivers.
#262 [07:31] <Lord_of_Cake> No I'm not using a virtual machine.
#263 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> Well unless it can be provided with access to accellerated OpenGL drivers for your graphics card, you won't be able to play it.
#264 [07:33] <Lord_of_Cake> And how could I provide access?
#265 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: Currently on your computer with your operating system, you're stuffed.
#266 [07:33] <Lord_of_Cake> Oh, okay.
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#268 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: There might be some that are created and updated for windows 8, but the Intel 950 is quite known for causing issues
#269 [07:34] <Calinou> why do people even use windows 8?
#270 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> Because it's the latest and greatest, apparently.
#271 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> I use win8 too, but not as my main machine
#272 [07:35] <Calinou> it's not officially released. and it sucks :p
#273 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> Lord_of_Cake: I'd see how it goes on a supported operating system, such as Windows 7.
#274 [07:39] <Lord_of_Cake> Okay then.
#275 [07:39] <Lord_of_Cake> Thanks for your help and time.
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#279 [07:57] <Guest17404> i downloaded too many mods now minecraft keeps crashing what do i do
#280 [07:57] <lemon-rev> force update
#281 [07:58] <Guest17404> thanks
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#285 [08:11] <alexoufc> hi
#286 [08:12] <alexoufc> my minecraft has crashed what do i do?
#287 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> Is there an error message, or a crash report?
#288 [08:13] <alexoufc> Mods loaded: 5 ModLoader 1.2.5 mod_Guns 0.9.97 for 1.2.3 mod_MinecraftForge 3.1.3.105 mod_ModLoaderMp 1.2.5v1 mod_fusrodah V1 - 1.2.5 Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 63934f53 -------- Generated 24/07/12 13:13 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Ora
#289 [08:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> alexoufc pastebin
#290 [08:14] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#292 [08:15] <alexoufc> i downloaded 2 mods will that b the problem
#293 [08:16] <Necrodoom> alexoufc: yes
#294 [08:16] <Calinou> we do not help with mods
#295 [08:16] <Calinou> install and fix them yourself
#296 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> alexoufc: I'm sorry, we don't handle mods here.
#297 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> ??> alexoufc mods
#298 [08:16] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#299 [08:16] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#300 [08:16] <alexoufc> how can i get rid of the mods and start playing minecraft again
#301 [08:17] <Necrodoom> ?? update
#302 [08:17] <Morrolan> Start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual
#303 [08:17] <Morrolan> Respectively:
#304 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> alexoufc win/reinst
#305 [08:17] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#306 [08:17] <Morrolan> ?? forceupdate
#307 [08:17] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#308 [08:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#309 [08:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#310 [08:17] <Necrodoom> nice spam :D
#311 [08:18] <Morrolan> :fu
#312 [08:18] <Morrolan> Oh, no WugBot.
#313 [08:18] <Morrolan> Well, in this case - no more spam I guess. :D
#314 [08:18] <Moose^2\away> blame Somoon
#315 [08:19] <prdionysus> hi, need help : when i try to launch minecraft i get this error: "Error: Could not create the java virtual machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit." (Btw: My java is up to date). I also checked youtube. They told me to make a file with some info in it and then save it as "minecraft.bat"
#316 [08:19] <alexoufc> please i cant read all this one at a time what do i do?
#317 [08:19] <prdionysus> but this didnt work :l
#318 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> ??>> alexoufc win/reinst
#319 [08:20] <alexoufc> whats win/reinst
#320 [08:20] <Necrodoom> alexoufc: Start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual
#321 [08:20] <Necrodoom> by morrolan
#322 [08:21] <DiskDaemon> alexoufc: win/reinst is the name of a FAQ that we have stored in the bot, for easy access
#323 [08:23] <prdionysus> is anyone working on my problem?
#324 [08:23] <Necrodoom> prdionysus: il give you link
#325 [08:23] <prdionysus> okay
#326 [08:23] <Necrodoom> oh nvm
#327 [08:24] <prdionysus> ah
#328 [08:24] <Necrodoom> prdionysus: you asked on youtube?
#329 [08:24] <prdionysus> i searched on youtube, for a solution
#330 [08:24] <prdionysus> but they were all bad
#331 [08:24] <prdionysus> but they were all bad
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#333 [08:25] <Necrodoom> probably confusion between bukkit and MC, from what i can find
#334 [08:26] <prdionysus> Well i don't have bukkit? im afraid :s , on youtube they were telling me that something could also be blocking my java :s
#335 [08:29] <prdionysus> It's a problem that alot of players seem to have, as i look onto youtube.
#336 [08:31] <prdionysus> Remarkable is that i can play on the minecraft web browser
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#338 [08:38] <prdionysus> So...I could go to a pc store, let them check it or what? You guys seem to be a bit clueless, like me :s
#339 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> prdionysus: When it says that it could not create the java virtual machine, that seems to indicate that you need to install java.
#340 [08:42] <prdionysus> it is installed, i checked it on java. They say i got the right version. And the web browser works, which also needs mc.
#341 [08:43] <prdionysus> needs java*
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#346 [08:52] <Morrolan> Reinstalling Java would be worth a shot.
#347 [08:53] <Morrolan> Also, launching it with less RAM than it uses by default might help, if your computer doesn't have a lot of it.
#348 [08:53] <prdionysus> Actually i tried that like times, but i'll try it again
#349 [08:53] <prdionysus> Nah, my pc runs very smooth
#350 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> 384mb is the recommended amount of ram to launch an unmodded version of Minecraft with
#351 [08:55] <prdionysus> i'm very certain that i got enough ram.
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#353 [08:57] <prdionysus> Okay, so i re installed java, and it's still the same problem :(
#354 [08:58] <DiskDaemon> well, that's got me stumped.
#355 [08:58] <prdionysus> hmm, ye, it's really weird :L
#356 [09:00] <prdionysus> this is what i found on the minecraft.net site
#357 [09:00] <prdionysus> Java (Java SE 6 Update 32 or Java SE 7 Update 4 or newer is preferred) Please note that some users experience issues playing Minecraft while using a mismatched version of Java for their operating system (32 or 64 bit), while using certain versions of Java 7, or while multiple versions of Java are installed
#358 [09:01] <prdionysus> Maybe im using the 'certain version of java7
#359 [09:01] <prdionysus> im using 7.5
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#361 [09:03] <prdionysus> What version of java are you using?
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#363 [09:04] <DiskDaemon> It's up to 7.5 already?
#364 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> 7u5 OI think
#365 [09:05] <prdionysus> (Version 7 Update 5)
#366 [09:05] <DiskDaemon> ahh, that would make sense
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#368 [09:05] <dutchie1> hello?
#369 [09:05] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#371 [09:07] <prdionysus> Are u using 7u5 too?
#372 [09:09] <dutchie1> I bought minecraft but I can not login he indicates: account migrated, use e-mail as username! help?
#373 [09:10] <dutchie1> I have minecraft a few weeks
#374 [09:10] <prdionysus> instead of entering ur username, use ur e-mail adress
#375 [09:10] <prdionysus> in login?
#376 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: Please visit this page and reset your password https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#377 [09:13] <dutchie1> I'm logged in and he does it (with my email)
#378 [09:13] <dutchie1> and i cant change my skin!?
#379 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: Are there two of you trying to use the same account?
#380 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: Visit your profile page on minecraft.net to upload a skin for yourself
#381 [09:15] <dutchie1> no I only play on this account
#382 [09:15] <dutchie1> yes but he indicates that I should buy minecraft
#383 [09:16] <dutchie1> sorry my english is a little bad :)
#384 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time understanding which of 5 possible interpretations you mean about things
#385 [09:17] <dutchie1> I Don't understand it?
#386 [09:18] <dutchie1> but i can't change my minecraft skin?
#387 [09:18] <dutchie1> he indicates: You have to purchase the game to change skin.
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#389 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: You do that from your profile page of the website
#390 [09:19] <dutchie1> yes!
#391 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: What is your minecraft username?
#392 [09:19] <dutchie1> dutchie1 !
#393 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> !paid dutchie1
#394 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: You may need to log in to the website first, so that it knows for which user you want to upload a skin.
#395 [09:21] <dutchie1> I do not get it? but I'm logged?
#396 [09:21] <dutchie1> I cant upload!?
#397 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: When you are logged in, what is the name they show for you at the top right. "Logged in as ... | Log out"
#398 [09:24] <dutchie1> I HAVEEE!! :D
#399 [09:24] <dutchie1> thankyou!
#400 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#401 [09:26] <dutchie1> but i'm now logged in with me email and not with me minecraft acount?
#402 [09:26] <dutchie1> name
#403 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> dutchie1: You need to always log in with your email now.
#404 [09:26] <dutchie1> ok! thankyou so much!
#405 [09:27] <dutchie1> Bye
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#407 [09:29] <MrKettling> Wie kann ich in der Pocket Edition Redstone abbauen?
#408 [09:30] <MrKettling> Ich habe ihn schon gefunden, grauer Stein mit roten Punkten
#409 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> Sprachen ze Deutch? Nien.
#410 [09:31] <Boreeas> In der normalen Version brauchst du eine Eisenspitzhacke
#411 [09:31] <Boreeas> Ich weiss aber nicht, wie das in der Pocketedition ist
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#413 [09:35] <Silentbinx> IDK if this is a question thats right for here but does anyone want to play MC with me just the 2 of us but i cant host server
#414 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> ??> Silentbinx smp/servers
#415 [09:36] <VoxelHead> Silentbinx: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#416 [09:36] <VoxelHead> Silentbinx: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#417 [09:37] <Silentbinx> #smp
#418 [09:37] <Silentbinx> oops, idk how to get there
#419 [09:37] <Silentbinx> oops, idk how to get there
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#422 [09:38] <dutchie1> how do I zoom?
#423 [09:38] <dutchie1> (minecraft)
#424 [09:40] <DiskDaemon> Move your face closer to the screen.
#425 [09:41] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: lol
#426 [09:41] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: CTRL
#427 [09:41] <Necrodoom> er
#428 [09:41] <Necrodoom> dutchie1: CTRL
#429 [09:41] <dutchie1> no?
#430 [09:41] <Necrodoom> what no?
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#432 [09:42] <dutchie1> I can't zoom in with ctrl
#433 [09:42] <picklejuice290> how do i fix not enough ram
#434 [09:42] <Necrodoom> dutchie1: you using windows?
#435 [09:42] <dutchie1> yes?
#436 [09:42] <Necrodoom> left ctrl works for me
#437 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: You're using mods
#438 [09:43] * DiskDaemon smacks Necrodoom on the hand
#438 [09:43] <Necrodoom> fresh minecraft..
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#440 [09:43] <picklejuice290> how do i fix not enough ram
#441 [09:43] <dutchie1> no i'm dont used mods
#442 [09:44] <dutchie1> ow he
#443 [09:44] <DiskDaemon> picklejuice290: See http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/#cl
#444 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: There is no zoom in Minecraft. If you ar using optifine, then that is where you're getting zoom from.
#445 [09:47] <Necrodoom> agh, seems to be outside of the minecraft.jar
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#455 [10:22] <Guest679> Im having trouble with my minecraft. ive downloaded it but it says at my login that it cant connect to minecraft.net so i thought i would just play single player but it says thats not downloaded! i dowloaded minecraft multiple times and it still says that help me with how i log in and at least play single player.
#456 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase an account?
#457 [10:23] <Guest679> yes
#458 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a news feed in the launcher?
#459 [10:23] <Guest679> yes i do
#460 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#461 [10:23] <Guest679> windows 7
#462 [10:24] <DiskDaemon> Does the lower part have a dirt or a black background?
#463 [10:24] <Guest679> 1 sec
#464 [10:24] <Guest679> lemme check
#465 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark at the end?
#466 [10:24] <Guest679> no i dont have the ! at the end. yes the bottom is dirt
#467 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#468 [10:26] <Guest679> ok 1 second
#469 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Make sure there's no special characters in the folder's name other than letters and numbers?
#470 [10:27] <Guest679> i did go to the start menu and typed %userprofile% but i dont think it brought me to where its supposed to. it just showed the different user account for my computer
#471 [10:28] <Guest679> is that right?
#472 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> That's where it should've taken you to. What's the folder's name?
#473 [10:28] <Guest679> appdat/roaming
#474 [10:29] <Guest679> appdata/roaming
#475 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> And the folder before appdata?
#476 [10:29] <Guest679> ? what do u mean the folder before app data?
#477 [10:30] <Guest679> there are two other folders but they are just my acount on this computer
#478 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> I'm asking what the name of the folder is before the appdata folder. ie, username/appdata/roaming
#479 [10:30] <Guest679> oh its Jack
#480 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Just Jack?
#481 [10:31] <Guest679> yup
#482 [10:31] <Guest679> Jack/appdata/roaming
#483 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
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#485 [10:31] <Guest679> idk what this has to do with my minecraft account
#486 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Having special characters in your windows username path can cause this error
#487 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> I'm just ruling it out as a cause
#488 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up a browser and go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#489 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you see there.
#490 [10:32] <Guest679> oh well there arnt any special characters
#491 [10:32] <Guest679> ok 1 second
#492 [10:33] <DiskDaemon> If there were, he wouldn't be seeing a dirt background on the bottom of the launcher
#493 [10:33] <DiskDaemon> Guest679: What is your minecraft username?
#494 [10:33] <Guest679> its jack55406
#495 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> !paid jack55406
#496 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> That's good to confirm
#497 [10:35] <Guest679> yes i paid for it on one computer then i tryued copying it to another but it didnt work'
#498 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Are you on the computer that it doesn't work right now?
#499 [10:35] <Guest679> then i trying downloading it fron this computer but that also didnt work
#500 [10:35] <Guest679> yes
#501 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> What do you get when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#502 [10:36] <Guest679> it just said bad login.
#503 [10:36] <Guest679> ti had that problem on my other computer but one day it just stopped
#504 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's right then..
#505 [10:37] <Guest679> what do u think is wrong with the minecraft?
#506 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Nothing's wrong with minecraft. Some program on your computer is blocking minecraft from communicating with the server it needs to connect to, in order to authenticate your login
#507 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> Guest679: Nothing is wrong with minecraft - you haven't even downloaded it yet :)
#508 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any security software or firewall that is installed on your computer(s)?
#509 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Do you think that a screenshot might help to reveal any clues?
#510 [10:38] <Guest679> ok i understand what Grey is saying but Diskdaemon what do u mean i havnt downloaded minecraft?
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#512 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> Guest679: Your comment earlier - "but it says thats not downloaded!"
#513 [10:39] <Guest679> yes i do have some security but its the same that i use on the other computer and mineraft works just fine on there
#514 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon is correct. The minecraft that you downloaded is just the launcher. It contains no actual game files. It only downloads them upon a successful login of a premium account
#515 [10:39] <Guest679> oh ok
#516 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> That's why it says "not downloaded"
#517 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> It's also why you can't play single player yet.
#518 [10:40] <Guest679> hmmmm do i have to copy the files from my other computer? idk why because i checked with %appdata% and the files are there
#519 [10:40] <Guest679> the files are on here on this computer
#520 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> What files?
#521 [10:41] <Guest679> like the minecraft.jar and that kind of stuff
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#523 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#524 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> If the files were there, it wouldn't say, "Not downloaded"
#525 [10:42] <Guest679> :/
#526 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#527 [10:42] <Guest679> should i copy them from my other computer?
#528 [10:43] <Guest679> eset smart security
#529 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Let's diagnose why minecraft isn't able to connect first.
#530 [10:43] <Guest679> how
#531 [10:44] <Guest679> accept
#532 [10:44] <Guest679> do i have to do something?
#533 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you try right clicking on eset in your taskbar, and disabling the firewall, then try minecraft again?
#534 [10:45] <Guest679> hmmmm i dont know. disapling the firewall
#535 [10:46] <Guest679> nope it still didnt work
#536 [10:46] <Guest679> do u think theres something wrong with the java?
#537 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so. You did say you saw a news feed in the launcher, right?
#538 [10:48] <Guest679> yes it looks just like it does when its working. info about the updates, the big creaters on the side etc
#539 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> Would a screenshot of how things look when the error occurs, help to reveal any clues?
#540 [10:48] <Guest679> ok but how would i show u guys the screen shot?
#541 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> There is a snipping tool that windows comes with, which helps with that
#542 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> called Snipping Tool
#543 [10:49] <Guest679> i mean like how would i update it to this?
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#545 [10:50] <nickcurran90> how can i get a refund on the pc game
#546 [10:50] <Guest679> i dont think u can get refunds
#547 [10:50] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: That's not possible. Once purchased it's yours.
#548 [10:51] <burgok> sorry to butt in - I've got a prob should I wait or start another thread somehow? minecraft won't open - have re-installed java and program. After login does download then nothing. Log here http://pastebin.com/Vym4LtdY
#549 [10:51] <nickcurran90> ok well my game does not work on my computer
#550 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> burgok - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#551 [10:51] <Guest679> ok so how do i upload the picture to this stream?
#552 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> ??> burgok win/dxdiag
#553 [10:51] <VoxelHead> burgok: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#554 [10:51] <VoxelHead> burgok: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#555 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Guest679 - Upload it to a site like imgur.com and give us the URL
#556 [10:52] <nickcurran90> my game does not work
#557 [10:52] <Guest679> ok..
#558 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Refunds are not given because you don't have a computer that it can be played with. It is up to you to investigate things such as minimum requirements before making a purchase.
#559 [10:52] <burgok> ok just a sec
#560 [10:53] <nickcurran90> well i hope i dont have to call the bbb
#561 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Mojang provide an article that can help to answer some refund questions for you.
#562 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
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#564 [10:54] <burgok> http://pastebin.com/juzvh05v
#565 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately burgok, that system spec will not be able to run minecraft.
#566 [10:55] <nickcurran90> when will i get an answer
#567 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> 32mb - that's a new record for me
#568 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> burgok: Your graphics card can not run Minecraft.
#569 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> nickcurran90 - Your answer is already in the article. Last paragraph
#570 [10:56] <nickcurran90> no i mean on my refund i already filled out a form
#571 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#572 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: For what reason were you requesting the refund?
#573 [10:58] <nickcurran90> because it is laging alot and it says im not premium
#574 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: What is your minecraft username?
#575 [10:58] <nickcurran90> nickcurran90
#576 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> !paid nickcurran90
#577 [10:59] <burgok> dang - i'm so in trouble with the kids! Thanks v much for help, apologies for not checking, this is an amazing helppage
#578 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Well you are confirmed as being premium, having paid.
#579 [10:59] <nickcurran90> ok but the game is not working
#580 [10:59] <nickcurran90> when it does work half the time it quits
#581 [11:00] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Carefully follow all of the information in this article, and it will work a lot better for you http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#582 [11:01] <DiskDaemon> In some cases though it just depends on the computer and how capable (or not) it is.
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#584 [11:02] <nickcurran90> thats not going to help my computer is way different but i will get a refund
#585 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Good luck, you'll need it.
#586 [11:03] <Morrolan> Or a good lawyer. *sigh*
#587 [11:03] <Guest64309> the hacker just hacked into my friends minecraft auont and computer
#588 [11:03] <Morrolan> Tell him to reset his password.
#589 [11:03] <nickcurran90> my sister is a lawyer
#590 [11:03] <Guest64309> no his computer got hacked too
#591 [11:03] <Morrolan> Tell him to reformant his computer then.
#592 [11:03] <Morrolan> Also tell him not to download every piece of software which has a big ad banner. ;)
#593 [11:03] <Morrolan> reformat*
#594 [11:04] <TheNoodle> but those are the best ones
#595 [11:04] <Guest64309> ok and he might be tracking my friend cody
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#597 [11:04] <Morrolan> TheNoodle - 'specially those which pictures of naked men/women, eh. ;D
#598 [11:04] <TheNoodle> :D There are so many women in my area!
#599 [11:05] <Morrolan> Haha, and all of them really want to chat with you, right? :D
#600 [11:05] <Morrolan> Same here, man, same here.
#601 [11:05] <nickcurran90> in the state of MO and IL ther is a refund policy
#602 [11:05] <TheNoodle> nickcurran90, nothing we can do about refunds here.
#603 [11:05] <Morrolan> Look, if you want to get a refund then go ahead, try it.
#604 [11:05] <nickcurran90> 14 days
#605 [11:05] <Morrolan> Nothing you say in here will change anything though.
#606 [11:05] <TheNoodle> Remember, Mojang isn't a united states based company.
#607 [11:06] <DiskDaemon> nickcurran90: Nobody here works for Mojang, and they are in the country of Sweden
#608 [11:07] <TheNoodle> but mah sister is a lawyer!!!1111!!
#609 [11:07] <DiskDaemon> He's 12, he will learn.
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#611 [11:08] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes the squeeky wheel is just deserving to be disposed of
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#619 [11:29] <Guest57569> Hello?
#620 [11:30] <Calinou> hi
#621 [11:30] <Guest57569> I was told to come here for technical support?
#622 [11:31] <Morrolan> Depending on what your issue is, you might get help here.
#623 [11:31] <Morrolan> Only if you were to describe it, ofcourse.
#624 [11:31] <Guest57569> Well my issue is on the 360 version......
#625 [11:32] <Guest57569> Will that be a problem?
#626 [11:32] <Morrolan> Only very few of us are familiar with the xbox version, but feel free to ask nevertheless.
#627 [11:33] <Morrolan> Worst case you'll have to contact 4J studios, the creator of the xbox version.
#628 [11:33] <Morrolan> Contacted them once, asking whether they actually provide support for the xbox games they port, but didn't get a response. *shrug*
#629 [11:33] <Guest57569> Welll..... For some reason, when using my normal gamer tag, I cannot turn at all. I've already checked to see if it was my controller, but it works fine.
#630 [11:34] <Calinou> "I cannot turn at all" O_o
#631 [11:34] <Morrolan> And.... when you choose a new gamer tag it works?
#632 [11:34] <Guest57569> Yes.
#633 [11:35] <Morrolan> That is a... rather odd issue.
#634 [11:35] <Guest57569> Never seen it before myself.
#635 [11:36] <Guest57569> I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you have no idea?
#636 [11:37] <Morrolan> That is correct.
#637 [11:37] <Guest57569> Darn.
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#639 [11:37] <Morrolan> My knowledge with the xbox version goes as far as how to buy the game. Now such a special issue like yours - no clue.
#640 [11:37] <Guest57569>
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#642 [11:38] <Morrolan> But feel free to stick around, maybe someone else has an idea. :)
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#644 [11:38] <Morrolan> Oh, and if you manage to fix it - drop in here and tell us, so we'll be able to relay this information if anyone else has the same issue. :)
#645 [11:38] <Guest57569> Should I contact 4J then?
#646 [11:38] <Morrolan> Would be worth a shot.
#647 [11:38] <Morrolan> Worst case they'll tell you "No support, go away".
#648 [11:39] <Guest57569> That's a tune I'm familiar with
#649 [11:40] <Morrolan> http://4jstudios.com/ is their website, and there is am e-mail address under "Contact", but right now there is either an issue with their website, or with their browser, all I get is a blank page with no text.
#650 [11:40] <Guest57569> Yeah, I'm only getting a blank page as well.
#651 [11:41] <Morrolan> Seems their menu is messed up. Here's a direct link to the contact page: http://4jstudios.com/index.php/contact
#652 [11:41] <Guest57569> Right thanks anyways.
#653 [11:42] <Morrolan> Good luck. :)
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#655 [11:44] <groovyspakle> need help with mine craft my first night on the pc version and every 2 minutes it says that it has run out of memory and crashes
#656 [11:44] <groovyspakle> Ihave tried everything and none of ti work
#657 [11:45] <groovyspakle> it works*
#658 [11:46] <DiskDaemon> groovyspakle: There's info about dealing with memory over at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/#cl
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#660 [11:49] <groovyspakle> I have done most of that some of it i dont understand i just wanted to come across from xbox. why cant i just download it and it works
#661 [11:50] <groovyspakle> what is theis memory error
#662 [11:50] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry, I'm going to bed now but others in here should be able to help you out
#663 [11:51] <groovyspakle> can anyone else help!!
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#665 [11:52] <Calinou> groovyspakle, are you on a 32 bit or 64 bit OS? (windows I presume)
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#667 [11:52] <groovyspakle> 64 bit windows 7
#668 [11:54] <Calinou> groovyspakle, make sure you install 64 bit java then
#669 [11:54] <groovyspakle> yeah already done that
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#671 [11:54] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#672 [11:54] <Calinou> ^ windows x64
#673 [11:54] <Calinou> uninstall any other versions of java first
#674 [11:54] <groovyspakle> ok give me a sec
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#676 [11:55] <CreeperForbidder> Anyone hereÉ
#677 [11:55] <CreeperForbidder> I need help
#678 [11:56] <Moose^2> what's up, CreeperForbidder?
#679 [11:56] <CreeperForbidder> I have tried to purchase Minecraft but it always say that my credit card is disbled
#680 [11:56] <CreeperForbidder> or that the purchase failed
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#684 [12:03] <groovyspakle> help!! I tried removing my flah player version and re installing but the game still freezes every 2 minutes or so sayin that there is a memory probler
#685 [12:03] <groovyspakle> problem*
#686 [12:03] <TheNoodle> Minecraft uses java, not flash.
#687 [12:04] <groovyspakle> oh well whatever im not a it expert i have just migrated from x box cause it shits me. can you help? It would be much appreaciated
#688 [12:05] <groovyspakle> IT*
#689 [12:05] <Morrolan> If you're on a 64 bit OS, make sure you use 64 bit Java.
#690 [12:06] <groovyspakle> yeah I have done that im running win7 64 bit
#691 [12:06] <groovyspakle> but it is still freezing
#692 [12:07] * tyteen4a03 waves
#692 [12:07] <TheNoodle> Given that you tried to change your flash player version, are you sure you're using a 64bit version of java?
#693 [12:08] <groovyspakle> yeah im just checking at the moment but i just did a format like 3 months ago. hang on i will check
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#695 [12:12] <groovyspakle> derfinately 64 bit version
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#703 [12:17] <Ave> my minecraft is running really slow and im not sure why
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#705 [12:17] <Ave> i just got it to
#706 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> Ave: Try switching the Render Distance to Low
#707 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> *shot
#708 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> *short
#709 [12:18] <Ave> how do i do that
#710 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> Ave: Press Esc, choose Options
#711 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> there should be a Render Distance option
#712 [12:19] <Calinou> Ave, or get a better computer
#713 [12:19] <Ave> see it wont let me do any of that it is like frozen almost
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#715 [12:19] <Calinou> minecraft is resource-intensive, it will not run well on small laptops and old computers
#716 [12:20] <Ave> my computer is new its not old at all
#717 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> can you give us your computer spec?
#718 [12:20] <Ave> and its normal sized
#719 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ave win/dxdiag/bat
#720 [12:20] <VoxelHead> Ave: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#721 [12:20] <VoxelHead> Ave: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#722 [12:21] <Calinou> desktop computers, today, sometimes have poor integrated video cards
#723 [12:21] <Conman1700> Hello, I am trying to play mine craft classic on my mac, and it says "The digital signature has expired." I click run, but the screen turns black and does not load.
#724 [12:21] <Ave> its a laptop
#725 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Ave: Do follow the instructions first
#726 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: Is your time correct?
#727 [12:22] <Conman1700> yes. its 921
#728 [12:22] <Conman1700> 9:21
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#730 [12:22] <Conman1700> Hello, I am trying to play mine craft classic on my mac, and it says "The digital signature has expired." I click run, but the screen turns black and does not load.
#731 [12:23] <Conman1700> Please help.
#732 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: please be patient
#733 [12:23] <Conman1700> OK thank you.
#734 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: did you tick the Always Trust content from the publisher box?
#735 [12:24] <Conman1700> yes
#736 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> Are you by any chance running Java 7?
#737 [12:24] <Conman1700> i am runni g the latest version of java
#738 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: You will need to downgrade your Java version to Java 6
#739 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#740 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> oh wait
#741 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: I just remembered, Minecraft Classic does not work on Mac OS X
#742 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Conman1700: You may try a 3rd party client called World Of Minecraft though, you can download it at http://www.worldofminecraft.net
#743 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Note that we do not support 3rd party clients, nor do we officially support classic anymore
#744 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> ??< mac/classic
#745 [12:27] <Conman1700> thank you
#746 [12:28] <Ave> umm what do i do again beacuse i
#747 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ave win/dxdiag/bat
#748 [12:29] <VoxelHead> Ave: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#749 [12:29] <VoxelHead> Ave: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#751 [12:31] <Ave> it says upload it to to the website but when i did it didnt send me any where but to the screen showing me what i posted
#752 [12:32] <dangarcia10> i want to know if my payment went thru yesterday
#753 [12:32] <Ave> dangarcia10 just check your bank account and you wil get and email
#754 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> dangarcia10: If you received a confirmation email, then yes
#755 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> Ave: you need to visit pastebin.com yourself
#756 [12:33] <Ave> i did
#757 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> then paste whatever content that is on the bat file to the box
#758 [12:34] <Ave> dose any of the optional paste stuff need to be touched
#759 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Ave: no
#760 [12:35] <Ave> theres the link
#761 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> Ave: give us the link
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#763 [12:37] <Ave> http://pastebin.com/aMaBZwSa
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#765 [12:37] <Ave> there ya go
#766 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> Ave: you need to go to C:\Documents and Settings\Susan\Desktop, find dxdiag.txt, and copy the content of it
#767 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> then paste the content at pastebin.com
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#769 [12:41] <Ave> http://pastebin.com/C0cA8sy0
#770 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Ave: Intel GPUs suck, your CPU clock isn't exactly fast, but you can try updating your GPU drivers to see if it brings any performance boosts, even if miniman
#771 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ave gpu/intel
#772 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Ave: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#773 [12:44] <Ave> how do i do that though
#774 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> Ave: try this driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21073&keyword=%22Mobile+Intel(R)+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family%22&lang=eng
#775 [12:46] <Ave> okay i will
#776 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> Ave: note that your notebook is 3 years old, and that's considered semi-outdated nowadays
#777 [12:47] <Ave> lol o okay but i mean if i update the things i need to update will it help the preformance
#778 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Ave: It may or may not
#779 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Your GPU's performance is pretty low for gaming
#780 [12:48] <Ave> i know can i fix that or is that just the way it works
#781 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> Ave: it's just the way it works
#782 [12:49] <Ave> yeah but if i debug and update it will it rise it some so its not that bad
#783 [12:49] <xales> ??> Ave minspecs
#784 [12:49] <VoxelHead> Ave: (minspecs) There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
#785 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> Ave: If you update the driver it might bring some performance enhancements, but since it's a pretty crappy GPU you can't expect a much better experience
#786 [12:50] <Ave> yeah true
#787 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> xales, thank you
#788 [12:51] <Ave> what all do i need for the latest version of minecrafft like what software
#789 [12:52] <tyteen4a03> Ave: common softwares include Java 6 or 7 and updated drivers, there really isn't softwares that are much requires besides these 2
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#791 [12:53] <Ave> yeah i just updated my java and then it slowed down
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#793 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> Ave: Updated java to which version? Are you playing the paid version?
#794 [12:54] <Ave> 7 and yes
#795 [12:55] <Ave> hold on be right back gotta restart the computer
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#799 [13:03] <Ave> so i did what u said
#800 [13:03] <Ave> is there anything else
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#803 [13:04] <xales> Ave: If you want Minecraft to perform well, you need a reasonable computer that can handle games. Most laptops, especially those on the cheaper side, are quite bad at that.
#804 [13:05] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#805 [13:05] <Ave> well thing is mine is a great one but my lil bro downlaod so much crap tht it runs slow
#806 [13:05] <Ave> its lenovo
#807 [13:06] <xales> Ave: Well, remove the things that he downloaded. Either way, having a full HDD isn't going to impact performance in games much.
#808 [13:06] <xales> Based on what you showed us, it's really not a great computer for gaming in any sense.
#809 [13:06] <Ave> yeah i know i updated my gpu a min ago
#810 [13:07] <Ave> its not that there games with viruses
#811 [13:08] <Bidd3rs> has anybody else been getting huge chunk errors with the new snapshots on ssp/csp?
#812 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Ave: You only updated the GPU driver, which is only the software that communicates with the GPU
#813 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> the hardware stays the same
#814 [13:08] <xales> !topic info 4
#815 [13:08] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = We do not support Classic or pre-releases/snapshots. ] ... set by [ Boreeas | Sun Jul 15 05:04:41 MST 2012 ]
#816 [13:08] <xales> Bidd3rs: ^
#817 [13:08] <Bidd3rs> ah ok thanks
#818 [13:09] <Ave> well i need to fix the hardware then beacuse i spent 26 bucks on a game that wnt work
#819 [13:09] <Bidd3rs> i hope its ok on the full release then
#820 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> Ave: my advice is to get a better computer, ultrabooks are cheap nowadays
#821 [13:09] <xales> Ave: It works fine. You just have a computer that barely meets the requirements.
#822 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> ^switch the order of the above message and it makes much more sense
#823 [13:10] <Ave> okays ill try gettiing on the game again and see if it works
#824 [13:10] <|Anthony|> is there a utility i can use to see which pluging is using too much ram?
#825 [13:10] <|Anthony|> prolly should ask in #bukkit
#826 [13:10] <|Anthony|> sorry
#827 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> |Anthony|: Yes, you will have better luck there
#828 [13:12] <|Anthony|> lol
#829 [13:15] <Morrolan> !topic help
#830 [13:15] <Morrolan> Fine, if you _insist_ on a private conversation you'll get one, Vox. :)
#831 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: very suggestive
#832 [13:16] <Morrolan> That it is.
#833 [13:16] <Morrolan> Or were, if VoxelHead was more than a few lines of code.
#834 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: time to expend the codebase so that VoxelHead can generate more of itself
#835 [13:17] <Morrolan> Hehe.
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#843 [13:46] <Builder> Is there any channels where i can report bugs for the new snapshots? I tried the forums but i never got any replys which was yesterday evening
#844 [13:47] <Morrolan> There's a buglist on the wiki, which jeb (and possibly some other devs) check every now and then, suggest you use that one.
#845 [13:47] <Builder> TThanks
#846 [13:48] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_12w30c for the latest dev snapshot.
#847 [13:49] <Morrolan> (And if you select "Expand" next to "Previous versions" you'll get a list of all the other pages)
#848 [13:50] <Builder> Thanks.
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#851 [13:54] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
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#853 [13:55] <georgetheos> hi can i change my name in minecraft ??
#854 [13:55] <Morrolan> No, currently you can not.
#855 [13:55] <DavidNeedsHelp> well
#856 [13:55] <DavidNeedsHelp> you cant
#857 [13:55] <DavidNeedsHelp> once you chose the name you have it for ever
#858 [13:55] <georgetheos> :/
#859 [13:55] <Morrolan> Mollstam mentioned once or twice that they are working on it, but this might take some time to be ready.
#860 [13:55] <Nathan2055> Do you think I could run 1.3 on a Celeron D with 1.5 gigs of RAM?
#861 [13:56] <DavidNeedsHelp> hmmm
#862 [13:56] <DavidNeedsHelp> gfx card?
#863 [13:56] <Nathan2055> Uh, give me a second...
#864 [13:56] <georgetheos> ok thx guys :(
#865 [13:56] <Nathan2055> David: I'm not sure...
#866 [13:56] <DavidNeedsHelp> umm
#867 [13:57] <DavidNeedsHelp> id advise trying in browser
#868 [13:57] <DavidNeedsHelp> first
#869 [13:57] <DavidNeedsHelp> before you buy and account
#870 [13:57] <Nathan2055> No, it's not like that.
#871 [13:57] <DavidNeedsHelp> if u can run mc
#872 [13:57] <DavidNeedsHelp> u can obv run 1,3
#873 [13:57] <Nathan2055> I already play, I was just asking an opinion.
#874 [13:57] <xales> Nathan2055: A Celeron...with that much RAM, isn't likely to have a great GPU.
#875 [13:57] <Nathan2055> !help
#876 [13:57] <xales> I mean, if the current version works, 1.3 should work too.
#877 [13:57] <Morrolan> The Classic version is somewhat different from the current version performance-wise, DavidNeedsHelp.
#878 [13:57] <xales> But...perhaps not well.
#879 [13:58] <Nathan2055> Classic is crap on this unit.
#880 [13:58] <Nathan2055> But, 1.2 works fairly well, and the latest snap only has a little lag.
#881 [13:58] <Morrolan> 1.3 will hopefully lessen its resource usage a tad, so it might even work a bit better.
#882 [13:58] <Nathan2055> Hopefully I'll have a new computer by 1.4, though.
#883 [13:59] <Morrolan> Seeing as how 1.4 will take quite some time to deploy - most likely. :)
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#885 [13:59] <Nathan2055> Morrolan: Jeb said it will have more resource requirements than 1.2.
#886 [13:59] <xales> jeb_ is his nick, Jens is his name, Jeb is nothing. :p
#887 [13:59] <Nathan2055> To be fixed in 1.4, when they push LWJGL update.
#888 [13:59] <xales> just saying. :p
#889 [13:59] <Nathan2055> I know. :P
#890 [13:59] <Morrolan> Hmm, I had hoped they'd already improve performance for 1.3 :S
#891 [14:00] <Morrolan> Oh well.
#892 [14:00] <Nathan2055> It's already late. They were originally saying end of June,
#893 [14:00] <Nathan2055> 1.4 looks like it will be mostly stability patches.
#894 [14:00] <Morrolan> Eh, if it was for me they could push it to october. ^^
#895 [14:00] <xales> Morrolan: Minecraft just needs to cut the support for total crap GPUs and use OpenGL properly. Would make things so much better for everyone with semimodern hardware. ._.
#896 [14:00] <Nathan2055> YouTubers really want 1.3, especially Paul.
#897 [14:00] <Morrolan> Heh, "we'll work on bugfixes mostly this update", I've heard this quite a number of times now. :D
#898 [14:01] <Morrolan> xales - Mhm.
#899 [14:01] <Morrolan> But then we'd get even more "Why can't I play Minecraft on the C64 my grandpa gifted me?!?!!"
#900 [14:01] <Nathan2055> xales: Jeb said if he had his way, he would rewrite Minecraft in C++.
#901 [14:01] <Nathan2055> :P
#902 [14:01] <Morrolan> Hah, rewrite, good luck with that. xP
#903 [14:02] <xales> Nathan2055: I wrote a very-feature-lacking Minecraft clone, in C++, in about 3 days...
#904 [14:02] <xales> using the programmable pipeline
#905 [14:02] <xales> not shitty immediate mode
#906 [14:02] <xales> ._.
#907 [14:02] <georgetheos> whare i can see the new thinks in 1.3??
#908 [14:02] <Morrolan> Oh well, we'll have to work/play with what we've got I guess. :)
#909 [14:02] <Nathan2055> xales: https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/224841403967078400
#910 [14:02] <Morrolan> georgetheos - Suggest you check the wiki, there's a changelog on there.
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#912 [14:03] <georgetheos> oh ok :)
#913 [14:03] <Nathan2055> georgetheos: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_releases
#914 [14:03] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions shwoops
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#916 [14:03] <Nathan2055> Heh.
#917 [14:04] <Morrolan> ??+ changelog/dev|The changelog of the latest developent builds can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#918 [14:04] * Morrolan prods VoxelHead
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#919 [14:04] <Morrolan> Unless I mixed up the syntax again.
#920 [14:04] <Nathan2055> You can edit VoxelHead?
#921 [14:04] <Morrolan> Mhm
#922 [14:04] <Nathan2055> ??+ test1 | Test
#923 [14:04] <Morrolan> You can't ;)
#924 [14:04] <Nathan2055> VoxelHead You can't add keywords into my dababase.
#925 [14:05] <Nathan2055> Daba?
#926 [14:05] <Morrolan> ??< changelog/dev
#927 [14:05] <Morrolan> It... doesn't react to me. :S
#928 [14:05] <Nathan2055> ?? changlelog/dev
#929 [14:05] <Nathan2055> ?? index
#930 [14:05] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#931 [14:05] <Morrolan> How odd.
#932 [14:05] <Morrolan> ?? win/reinst
#933 [14:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#934 [14:05] <xales> ??+ chancelog/dev|The changelog of the latest development builds can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#935 [14:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#936 [14:05] <xales> derp
#937 [14:05] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#938 [14:05] <xales> ??+ changelog/dev|The changelog of the latest development builds can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#939 [14:05] <xales> ??- changelog/dev
#940 [14:05] <xales> ??>> Morrolan changelog/dev
#941 [14:06] <xales> err
#942 [14:06] <xales> ??- chancelog/dev
#943 [14:06] <Nathan2055> Hey, is that the real Mollstam?
#944 [14:06] <xales> ??+ changelog/dev|The changelog of the latest development builds can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#945 [14:06] <xales> Nathan2055: Yep.
#946 [14:06] <Nathan2055> Cool.
#947 [14:07] <Morrolan> Oh, derp.
#948 [14:07] <Morrolan> It did work correctly, but its notices went into a query I had open with it.
#949 [14:07] <xales> :p
#950 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> xales: while you're at it, make yougetwhatyoupaid
#951 [14:07] <xales> tyteen4a03: I'm about to leave to get food :(
#952 [14:07] <xales> You do it.
#953 [14:07] <xales> :p
#954 [14:07] * xales bbl food
#954 [14:08] <Morrolan> ??+ changelog|The changelog of the latest stable version can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#955 [14:08] <Nathan2055> I wonder if Classic will be phased out with the new demo added.
#956 [14:08] <Morrolan> I assume so.
#957 [14:08] <Morrolan> Wouldn't hurt, atleast.
#958 [14:08] <tyteen4a03> xales: like I have access to ??+
#959 [14:09] <Morrolan> Just throw me the text if you want an entry like that. ;)
#960 [14:09] <Morrolan> Seeing as we've got a number of entries making fun onf people already, another one won't hurt I guess. ;D
#961 [14:09] <Morrolan> ??< fraud
#962 [14:09] <Morrolan> ??< fcvo
#963 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Hey, this is cool. Early concept of sounds in Minecraft: VoxelHead You can't add keywords into my dababase.
#964 [14:10] <Nathan2055> What.
#965 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Just.
#966 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Happened.
#967 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Uh...
#968 [14:10] <Nathan2055> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIFkQMEz9X8&NR=1
#969 [14:10] <Morrolan> Heh, birds.
#970 [14:12] <Nathan2055> Oh, and a pretty cool remix that Mojang tweeted about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GDWRyZUjOw&feature=g-u-u
#971 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: Minecraft is resource-intensive, just like all other recent games. Even though there might be exceptions to this, but generally the cheaper your computer is, the less performance it has. We at #MineCraftHelp can only help you boost your performance a little by recommending drivers and other common practice to reduce latency, such as closing other applications when running
#972 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft, turning off effects, toggling Render Distance to Short, etc., however, it will only bring minimum performance boosts.
#973 [14:13] <Morrolan> Has to fit into one IRC message, else you'll have to ask Dope to add it manually.
#974 [14:13] <tyteen4a03> oh
#975 [14:14] <tyteen4a03> then append In short, you get what you paid. #MineCraftHelp cannot offer much help to this.
#976 [14:15] <Morrolan> Sorry, now I couldn't follow - what should the whole factoid be?
#977 [14:15] <Morrolan> Simply "In short, you get what you paid. #MineCraftHelp cannot offer much help to this." ?
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#979 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft is resource-intensive, just like all other recent games. Even though there might be exceptions to this, but generally the cheaper your computer is, the less performance it has. We at #MineCraftHelp can only help you boost your performance a little by recommending drivers and other common practice to reduce latency, such as closing other applications when running Minecraft,
#980 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> turning off effects, toggling Render Distance to Short, etc., however, it will only bring minimum performance boosts. In short, you get what you paid. #MineCraftHelp cannot offer much help to this
#981 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> hmm, doesn't look good in 1 message
#982 [14:17] <wazy345> my minecraft will not load it just starts the force update and freezes
#983 [14:17] <Rikairchy> sup tyteen4a03
#984 [14:17] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Just /query DopeGhoti and ask him to add the whole wall of text manually. :)
#985 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> hi Rikairchy
#986 [14:17] <wazy345> or the update any one now what to do
#987 [14:17] <Morrolan> Gonna fetch some food, back in a bit.
#988 [14:17] <Rikairchy> gonna hit the gym guys
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#991 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> meh, gym
#992 [14:19] <milly> keeps running out of memory and we have tried saving the file in the as the f.a.q.guide can anyone help please?
#993 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> milly win/dxdiag/bat
#994 [14:19] <VoxelHead> milly: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#995 [14:19] <VoxelHead> milly: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#996 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Please give us your computer's information by following the insturction above
#997 [14:21] <milly> I dont understand????
#998 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> milly: please follow the instructions posted by VoxelHead
#999 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> TheInternet: nice old nick
#1000 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> Iaccidentally: I mean current nick
#1001 [14:22] <milly> what file do i download?
#1002 [14:22] <Iaccidentally> heh
#1003 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> milly: this: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1004 [14:22] <Rikairchy> oh boy....
#1005 [14:22] <Rikairchy> good luck
#1006 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> milly: be sure to read the instruction carefully
#1007 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: ikr
#1008 [14:22] <Rikairchy> you cant download anything
#1009 [14:22] <Rikairchy> computers have yet to advance to that stage
#1010 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: meh, gym
#1011 [14:23] <Rikairchy> meh, I'm fat
#1012 [14:23] <Rikairchy> well not really
#1013 [14:23] <Rikairchy> but I can't run or do normal PT while my foot is like this
#1014 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I cba to work out
#1015 [14:23] <Rikairchy> I have to
#1016 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> sometimes I feel like singing is my only exercise
#1017 [14:23] <Rikairchy> lol
#1018 [14:23] <Rikairchy> bbl
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#1020 [14:26] <milly> System Information
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#1022 [14:27] <tyteen4a03> ?? retro
#1023 [14:27] <VoxelHead> retro: Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#1024 [14:27] <VoxelHead> retro: Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#1025 [14:27] <milly> ive done that but what does 'copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us' mean?
#1026 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> milly: Are you currently at pastebin.com?
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#1028 [14:29] <chiefelmo> I have a question
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#1030 [14:29] <tyteen4a03> chiefelmo: yes?
#1031 [14:30] <chiefelmo> Can anyone here help me with a regioning question
#1032 [14:30] <clarjon1> chiefelmo: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
#1033 [14:30] <milly> ive got the link, how do i paste it to you?
#1034 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> milly: give me the link
#1035 [14:31] <clarjon1> milly: right click where it says raw, then click where it says "Copy" in the menu
#1036 [14:31] <clarjon1> milly: then right click in the text box here where you type, and click "Paste" in the popup menu
#1037 [14:31] <clarjon1> milly: then hit enter.
#1038 [14:31] <chiefelmo> ok, on my server there are 4 groups, guests, members, mods, and admins. How do i create a region that members and up can enter, and guests cant?
#1039 [14:32] <clarjon1> chiefelmo: Ah, you'll want to ask in #bukkit
#1040 [14:32] <milly> System Information
#1041 [14:32] <milly> I have done but it just says system information nothing else
#1042 [14:32] <tyteen4a03> milly: Are you sure you're copying the whole dxdiag.txt?
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#1045 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
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#1048 [14:45] <FL4SHK> I am unable to connect to my server
#1049 [14:45] <FL4SHK> other people can, though
#1050 [14:46] <clarjon1> FL4SHK: Did you put an IP into the server.properties file?
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#1052 [14:46] <FL4SHK> oh, yes
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#1054 [14:46] <clarjon1> FL4SHK: That's why.
#1055 [14:46] <FL4SHK> thank you
#1056 [14:46] <clarjon1> np
#1057 [14:46] <freehugs> So like my friend bought Minecraft.
#1058 [14:47] <freehugs> And he logged in and errthang. But it keeps saying "Not premium".
#1059 [14:47] <clarjon1> FL4SHK: That option is in there in the case of servers with multiple IP addresses available, so that the server can be bound to one specific network device.
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#1061 [14:47] <AuroraTr_> freehugs: How long ago did he buy it?
#1062 [14:47] <freehugs> It's almost been 24 hours since he has bought it.
#1063 [14:48] <clarjon1> Did he get a receipt in his email?
#1064 [14:48] <freehugs> No. He didn't get a conformation email.
#1065 [14:48] <clarjon1> Then the payment did not go through yet.
#1066 [14:48] <clarjon1> freehugs: I'm assuming he didn't use paypal, correct?
#1067 [14:48] <freehugs> Nope.
#1068 [14:48] <AuroraTr_> Check how you paid, the payment might have bounced or something.
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#1071 [14:48] <clarjon1> freehugs: So he did use paypal?
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#1073 [14:49] <freehugs> No he didn't use paypal.
#1074 [14:49] <clarjon1> ok
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#1076 [14:49] <clarjon1> freehugs: Have him check with his credit card company. They may have blocked the transaction due to it originating in a foreign country.
#1077 [14:49] <freehugs> Is there a number or email we can contact mojang or something?
#1078 [14:49] <freehugs> Okay.
#1079 [14:50] <clarjon1> freehugs: Most common issue :)
#1080 [14:50] <freehugs> Um, he paid 2 times. O_o
#1081 [14:50] <freehugs> He asked me why would it get bounced.
#1082 [14:51] <clarjon1> Many banks and credit card companies will automatically block international based credit card transactions.
#1083 [14:51] <freehugs> And this might sound stupid, but his mom is on the verge of ripping his neck off so besides contacting her credit card company, idk what to do. XD
#1084 [14:52] <AuroraTr_> freehugs: well the payment defiantly didn't go through, so no money has been sent falsely.
#1085 [14:52] <clarjon1> mhm.
#1086 [14:53] <clarjon1> Mojang's system is automated -- once the bank/CC company approves the payment, their servers get notified, which triggers the premium status and email receipt.
#1087 [14:53] <freehugs> okay.I'll just tell him the only thing he can do is contact his credit card company and hope for the best. Thanks.
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#1089 [14:54] <MrLooney65> Hello i am wondering when will mojang update minecraft so then you can use java 7 for it
#1090 [14:54] <clarjon1> heh.
#1091 [14:55] <AuroraTr_> As far as I know you can use java 7 for it...
#1092 [14:55] <clarjon1> I use Java 7
#1093 [14:55] <TheNoodle> That's correct AuroraTr_.
#1094 [14:55] <MrLooney65> ya but it doesnt load the update screen that i had to switch to java 6 last night according to instructions on here
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#1097 [14:56] <TheNoodle> Some setups have issues with java 7, which is why we recommend 6.
#1098 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> ??< java7
#1099 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/76
#1100 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/7
#1101 [14:56] * TheNoodle tickles Iguana
#1101 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> yay Iguana
#1102 [14:56] <MrLooney65> When will that be fixed TheNoodle?
#1103 [14:56] <TheNoodle> No ETA has been announced.
#1104 [14:56] <Boreeas> MrLooney65: We can't tell, that's up to Mojang
#1105 [14:56] <Boreeas> As of now, they are still working with Java 5
#1106 [14:56] <MrLooney65> Okay thanks
#1107 [14:57] <tyteen4a03> Java 5?
#1108 [15:00] <Iguana> fuck
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#1111 [15:00] <Iguana> stupid bot
#1112 [15:00] <Morrolan> Hahaha
#1113 [15:00] <Iguana> what do you want nudle and tyteen
#1114 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> Iguana: a hug
#1115 [15:01] <Iguana> no
#1116 [15:01] <AuroraTr_> Hehe.
#1117 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> aw
#1118 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> you've known me for 2.5 years, and I don't even get a hug ;_;
#1119 [15:02] * tyteen4a03 is sad because Iguana
#1119 [15:03] <Iguana> dealwithit
#1120 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> Iguana: okay ;_;
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#1124 [15:11] <Ezaro> I can't connect to my minecraft server, running 12w30c.
#1125 [15:11] <Juicy> how do i get inside my house that someone has put a spell on
#1126 [15:12] <Morrolan> Juicy - A... spell? That sounds like a plugin, contact the server's admin for help with that.
#1127 [15:12] <Morrolan> Ezaro - Are you running both client 12w30c and server 12w30c?
#1128 [15:12] <Ezaro> Yes
#1129 [15:12] <Morrolan> And what error do you get?
#1130 [15:12] <Ezaro> It gives me a connection reset when i try
#1131 [15:12] <Morrolan> If it works fine with current stable builds then chances are it's just a bug with the development version.
#1132 [15:13] <Juicy> it says someone put a magic spell on everything and i can't get into it
#1133 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Then we can't do anything about it
#1134 [15:13] <Morrolan> That is a plugin doing that, Juicy. As I said, contact the server's admin.
#1135 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Contact the server's admin
#1136 [15:13] <Ezaro> Would the fact that i'm running linux have anything to do with it, because my friend can connect, and he's using the new snapshot
#1137 [15:13] <Juicy> ok thank you
#1138 [15:13] * Morrolan hands GreyVulpine his cane
#1138 [15:14] <Morrolan> Ezaro - There might be a bug in the current development snapshots which only affects Linux, who knows.
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#1141 [15:14] * GreyVulpine shakes both canes at the same time... and promptly falls over
#1141 [15:14] <clarjon1> oh
#1142 [15:14] <clarjon1> a spell
#1143 [15:14] <clarjon1> that's LWC
#1144 [15:14] <Morrolan> Oh, my, quick, tyteen4a03, help him up.
#1145 [15:14] <John_> my minecraft doesnt work can someone help me?
#1146 [15:14] <Morrolan> Be a tad more specific please.
#1147 [15:14] <Ezaro> My friend is using windows
#1148 [15:15] <Morrolan> Ezaro - I can only offer you one piece of advice - double check that you are using the correct version of both the client and the server. REdownload them to be sure.
#1149 [15:15] <Ezaro> Oh, thanks you anyway, because i've tryed that
#1150 [15:15] <Ezaro> *tried
#1151 [15:15] <John_> ok first of all i own an acount but when i try to log in it cant connect to minecraft.net then when i try the single player browser version an error message pops up!
#1152 [15:15] <clarjon1> John_: What error?
#1153 [15:16] * Morrolan helps GreyVulpine up, seeing as tyteen4a03 seemingly vanished
#1153 [15:16] <John_> here ill copy and paste it
#1154 [15:16] <John_> ok its an error about applet.jar.pack.Izma
#1155 [15:16] <clarjon1> oh
#1156 [15:17] <John_> it says it cant get an input stream from that
#1157 [15:17] <clarjon1> John_: When you load the launcher, click the Options button, then click Force Update, then log in.
#1158 [15:17] <John_> ive tryed that it doesnt change anything it still says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1159 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I'm here
#1160 [15:18] <John_> any ideas?
#1161 [15:18] <clarjon1> hmmm.
#1162 [15:18] <Morrolan> Did you ever pirate Minecraft before? (Nothing to worry about, but it'd explain the issue)
#1163 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> oh, silly GreyBoty
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#1165 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> and GreyVulpine
#1166 [15:19] <John_> no. i bought the account on another computer. and im trying to play minecraft on this one
#1167 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> John_: username please?
#1168 [15:19] <Morrolan> Okay. Are you running any security software which might block Minecraft?
#1169 [15:19] <John_> jack55406
#1170 [15:19] <clarjon1> What version of java are you running?
#1171 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> !paid jack55406
#1172 [15:19] <John_> um ill check what version of java
#1173 [15:19] <John_> brb
#1174 [15:20] <Morrolan> You can issue a "java -version" in a console/terminal to find out. :)
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#1176 [15:20] <John_> ok its version 1.7.0_05
#1177 [15:20] <Platycryptus1> Hi
#1178 [15:20] <clarjon1> ooooo
#1179 [15:21] <clarjon1> Isn't that the buggy version of java?
#1180 [15:21] <clarjon1> I think that's the buggy update of Java, yeah.
#1181 [15:21] <John_> oh so should i update or something
#1182 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> John_: downgrade to Java 6
#1183 [15:21] <John_> downgrade? how do i do that?
#1184 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> John_: uninstall Java 7, install Java 6
#1185 [15:22] <John_> ok ill try that
#1186 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> ??> John_ java/6u31
#1187 [15:22] <clarjon1> That version of Java 7 has a bug.
#1188 [15:22] <John_> brb ill let u know if it worked
#1189 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> ??> John_ java/6
#1190 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> ugh
#1191 [15:22] <Platycryptus1> I have a problem, is don´t get an authenticater e-mail from minecraft. how can i fix it?=)
#1192 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> ??< getjava/6u31
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#1194 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> Platycryptus1: Correct address?
#1195 [15:22] <Platycryptus1> yes all correct
#1196 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> Platycryptus1: If you're sure it's correct, can you give me the domain of the email address? e.g tom@jerry.com, in this case jerry.com is the domain
#1197 [15:23] <Platycryptus1> g-mail.com
#1198 [15:23] <John_> how do i uninstall java? im on windows 7
#1199 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> Platycryptus1: as far as I know g-mail.com doesn't exist, do you mean gmail.com?
#1200 [15:24] <Platycryptus1> yes^^
#1201 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> try waiting for 5 minutes, if not request another verification email
#1202 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> John_: control panel should work
#1203 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> John_: Add/Uninstall programs panel
#1204 [15:25] <John_> ok
#1205 [15:25] <Platycryptus1> i try this already i use another e-mail before but on both i don´t get an e-mail
#1206 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> Platycryptus1: are you absolutely sure you're typing the correct email?
#1207 [15:26] <Platycryptus1> yes i doo
#1208 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> what is the domain of the other email?
#1209 [15:26] <clarjon1> did you check your spam folder?
#1210 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> and that
#1211 [15:26] <Platycryptus1> t-online.de
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#1213 [15:27] <tyteen4a03> and have you checked your spam folder on both email accounts, as clarjon1 said?
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#1215 [15:28] <ztimster> I have a fun idea I want to give to Mojang for an Android app
#1216 [15:28] <ztimster> who do i send it to?
#1217 [15:28] <Platycryptus1> oh nice i have an e-mail=) it was th wrong domain^^
#1218 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> ztimster: Try getsatisfication, given that they still use that
#1219 [15:28] <Platycryptus1> thank you=)
#1220 [15:29] <ztimster> ???
#1221 [15:29] <Platycryptus1> Bye=)
#1222 [15:30] <ztimster> what is "getsatisfaction"?
#1223 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> ztimster: nevermind
#1224 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> as far as I know there's currently no way to contact mojang about this idea, however you may try using minecraftforums.net to share this idea
#1225 [15:31] <ztimster> OK
#1226 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> *minecraftforum.net
#1227 [15:31] <ztimster> thanks~
#1228 [15:31] <ztimster> thanks~
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#1232 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Bleh. Now I gotta find all my modular PSU cables so I can RMA this thing.
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#1234 [15:36] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at OCZ
#1234 [15:36] <FizzyPT> Anyone can help me?
#1235 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Maybe
#1236 [15:36] <FizzyPT> I have a problem to buy minecraft with paypal
#1237 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#1238 [15:37] <FizzyPT> wait a momment
#1239 [15:39] <FizzyPT> after i click "Pay Now" Paypal say... This payment cannot be completed and your account has not been charged. Please contact your merchant for more information.
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#1241 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Are you paying directly with Paypal, or with a card?
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#1244 [15:41] <FizzyPT> directly with paypal...
#1245 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> As far as I know, there's no limitation with purchases in Amsterdam...
#1246 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> This is going to be something you'll need to contact Paypal support for.
#1247 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> https://www.paypal.com/webapps/helpcenter/home/
#1248 [15:42] <FizzyPT> I live in portugal...
#1249 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry.
#1250 [15:43] <FizzyPT> No problem :)
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#1253 [15:46] <John_> ok im back thanks for your help people installing java 6 now i can play offline but minecraft still says it cant connect to minecraft.net
#1254 [15:47] <John_> what does that mean?
#1255 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> What do you get when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1256 [15:47] <John_> Bad login
#1257 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. No problems seeing the login server there..
#1258 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before on that computer?
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#1260 [15:48] <John_> idk i got this computer like 2 days ago
#1261 [15:48] <John_> so no
#1262 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#1263 [15:48] <John_> it worked on my other computer
#1264 [15:48] <John_> windows 7
#1265 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#1266 [15:49] <John_> ok
#1267 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Let me know if you have a ! mark at the end of the folder's name it takes you to
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#1269 [15:50] <John_> nope
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#1271 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1272 [15:50] <John_> i dont have a ! at the end
#1273 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Any characters besides just letters and numbers?
#1274 [15:50] <John_> no
#1275 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Does the launcher's news feed work before you log in?
#1276 [15:51] <John_> yes
#1277 [15:51] <John_> and the bottom is dirt
#1278 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1279 [15:53] <Morrolan> Security software?
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#1281 [15:54] <John_> no its tha same software as my other computer and minecraft works just fine on there
#1282 [15:54] <Morrolan> Yea, but there might be an exception on your other computer which has yet to be added on this one.
#1283 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you try playing the inbrowser client at minecraft.net/play ?
#1284 [15:54] <John_> ok ill try
#1285 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> When it starts to load, you'll see a white coffee cup icon in your task bar. Right click on it to bring up the java console.
#1286 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> If it stops loading, please copy the contents of that java console's output to pastebin.com and give us the URL
#1287 [15:56] <John_> um the page wont load? maybe something wrong with my java? idk
#1288 [15:56] <John_> oh ik
#1289 [15:57] <John_> i just downloaded the java 6 because java 7 is buggy but somehow my computer glitched and uninstalled it
#1290 [15:57] <John_> let me install it again and try
#1291 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> ??< yougetwhatyoupayfor
#1292 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> oh well, DG is probably busy at work
#1293 [16:02] <John_> ok i tryed loading the game in browser but it had an error
#1294 [16:02] <John_> this is the error
#1295 [16:02] <John_> Java Plug-in 10.5.1.255
#1296 [16:02] <John_> Using JRE version 1.6.0_33-b05 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
#1297 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Please use www.pastebin.com
#1298 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Submit it there, then give us the URL
#1299 [16:03] <John_> ok
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#1306 [16:27] <Oralos> so im having a problem on mc servers where every 20 minutes or so i start freezing up for about 3 seconds then i go normal for about a minute and it happens again
#1307 [16:27] <Oralos> anyone know how to stop this?
#1308 [16:28] <xales|nexus> GreyVulpine: ^
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#1311 [16:29] <Morrolan> I get that too every now and then, no clue what's causing it tbh.
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#1315 [16:49] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#1317 [16:50] <Chylled_Bear> hello?
#1318 [16:51] <Boreeas> Hi Chylled_Bear, how can we help you?
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#1320 [16:51] <Chylled_Bear> I have a question?
#1321 [16:51] <Rikairchy> so ask?
#1322 [16:51] <Boreeas> We have answers. Not necessarily to the question you ask, but answers nonetheless.
#1323 [16:52] <Chylled_Bear> I created an account for (Chylled_Bear), but I believe I entered in the wrong email and now I cannot verify the account.
#1324 [16:52] <Chylled_Bear> EIther that or Mojang has not yet contacted me.
#1325 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> !paid Chylled_Bear
#1326 [16:53] <Helloman892> !paid Helloman892
#1327 [16:53] <Helloman892> Win.
#1328 [16:53] <Chylled_Bear> It won't let me pay for it, unless I register my email...
#1329 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> Chylled_Bear: if you entered the wrong email address at account creation, there's not much we can do
#1330 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#1331 [16:53] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi ] ... set by [ Boreeas | Sun Jul 15 05:04:41 MST 2012 ]
#1332 [16:53] <Helloman892> You have to register your email, regardless.
#1333 [16:54] <Chylled_Bear> Im aware..
#1334 [16:54] <Helloman892> Good.
#1335 [16:54] <Chylled_Bear> So I just have to use another name?
#1336 [16:54] <Helloman892> Just making sure.
#1337 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> you could try creating the 'wrong' email address, if it was gmail or something and the misspelled account name is not yet taken
#1338 [16:54] <Helloman892> Yes. Yes you do.
#1339 [16:54] <Helloman892> ^
#1340 [16:54] <Helloman892> Or that.
#1341 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> And then type more carefully in the future (:
#1342 [16:55] <Helloman892> Well said, Dope.
#1343 [16:55] <Chylled_Bear> I did this like 7 hours ago, Im not sure what I typed in the email box.
#1344 [16:55] <Helloman892> If you like being called that, that is.
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#1346 [16:55] <Helloman892> Hmm...
#1347 [16:55] <Helloman892> Did you do something like save your username and password?
#1348 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> Then the best answer we can give you is to pick a new account name and learn from this mistake.
#1349 [16:56] <Helloman892> If not, ^
#1350 [16:56] <dangarcia10> i canot play cause its saying i need to update the video and card dreivers
#1351 [16:56] <Chylled_Bear> What mistake, I typed in my email
#1352 [16:56] <dangarcia10> how do i do that
#1353 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> dangarcia10: so update your GPU drivers
#1354 [16:56] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#1355 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> Chylled_Bear: you _mis_typed your email address, apparently.
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#1357 [16:56] <Helloman892> You need to do what it says.
#1358 [16:56] <Chylled_Bear> either that or its taking forevar
#1359 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> dangarcia10: what GPU have you got?
#1360 [16:57] <Chylled_Bear> ALL YOUR BASE!!!
#1361 [16:57] <Helloman892> E.G: ATI Radeon Mobilty (mine)
#1362 [16:57] <Helloman892> I, unfortunately, can't remember the numbers :/
#1363 [16:57] <dangarcia10> what is a gpu
#1364 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu
#1365 [16:57] <VoxelHead> gpu: Graphical Processing Unit; also known as one's Video Card or Graphics Adapter. See ?? dxdiag for how to get lots of information about yours.
#1366 [16:57] <Helloman892> A graphics card.
#1367 [16:58] <Helloman892> ?? dxdiag?
#1368 [16:58] <Helloman892> Oh, right.
#1369 [16:58] <Helloman892> ??dxdiag
#1370 [16:58] * DopeGhoti hands Helloman892 a space
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#1371 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? dxdiag
#1372 [16:58] * Helloman892 Thanks. Lol.
#1372 [16:58] <Boreeas> win/dxdiag, actually
#1373 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> wait, it.. yeah
#1374 [16:58] <Helloman892> I fail at this.
#1375 [16:58] * DopeGhoti adjusts the GPU FAQ
#1375 [16:59] <Helloman892> I'm not made for helping.
#1376 [16:59] <Helloman892> ?? dxdiag
#1377 [16:59] <Boreeas> Practice
#1378 [16:59] <Helloman892> Dafuq.
#1379 [16:59] <Helloman892> ?? gpu
#1380 [16:59] <Boreeas> It's all just practice and a lot of patience ;)
#1381 [16:59] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1382 [16:59] <Boreeas> ??>> Helloman892 win/dxdiag
#1383 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> fixed forever.
#1384 [16:59] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#1385 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Helloman892 win/dxdiag
#1386 [17:00] <Helloman892> OK!
#1387 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ah, sorry, didn't mean to spam you
#1388 [17:00] <Helloman892> I get it :D
#1389 [17:00] <Helloman892> Although, I know what dxdiag is.
#1390 [17:00] <dangarcia10> i dont know how to do that
#1391 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> dangarcia10 win/dxdiag
#1392 [17:00] <VoxelHead> dangarcia10: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1393 [17:00] <VoxelHead> dangarcia10: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1394 [17:00] <Helloman892> Just not what the ?? thing is.
#1395 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Helloman892 help
#1396 [17:00] <Helloman892> Lol, Dope.
#1397 [17:01] <Helloman892> ??< index
#1398 [17:01] <Morrolan> "??" is merely Vox's factoid prefix.
#1399 [17:01] <Helloman892> I see.
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#1401 [17:01] <Boreeas> Rule #1 of #minecrafthelp: There is a factoid for everything. No exceptions.
#1402 [17:01] <Helloman892> Thanks, Captain obvious.
#1403 [17:01] <Morrolan> Could also be "§^" or any other combination.
#1404 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> You're welcome, Lieutennant Obscured.
#1405 [17:02] <Helloman892> Alright, We're done here.
#1406 [17:02] <Morrolan> "<Helloman892> Just not what the ?? thing is." *ahum*, sure sounds like you were wondering about the ?? to me. ;)
#1407 [17:02] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#1408 [17:02] <Helloman892> I was.
#1409 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Section-Caret would certainly be an interesting choice.
#1410 [17:02] <Morrolan> Indeed, I can just see all those people franatically looking for the section sign on their keyboard. :D
#1411 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> Kind of a pain, though.
#1412 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> compose-S-O (:
#1413 [17:03] <Morrolan> It's right between tab and esc for me. :)
#1414 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> or, compose-s-e-c
#1415 [17:03] <Morrolan> Not even a secondary function.
#1416 [17:03] <Helloman892> There isn't a section sign. That's the problem. Mainly.
#1417 [17:03] <Boreeas> There is one on my keyboard :)
#1418 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> it might have an AltGr deadkey too; I'm not sure
#1419 [17:03] <Boreeas> Shift+3 ftw
#1420 [17:03] <Helloman892> Not on mine.
#1421 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: for most, shift-3 is octothorpe or pound.
#1422 [17:04] <Helloman892> I get £ on Shift-3.
#1423 [17:04] <Morrolan> Shift-3 is asterisk for me. :)
#1424 [17:04] <Boreeas> Ah, silly QWERTY layout
#1425 [17:04] <Helloman892> Shift-8 = * for me.
#1426 [17:04] <Helloman892> ?? shift
#1427 [17:04] <Boreeas> QWERTZ is the way to go
#1428 [17:04] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1429 [17:04] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Yea. :D
#1430 [17:04] <Helloman892> In your faces.
#1431 [17:05] <Helloman892> ?? QWERTY
#1432 [17:05] <Morrolan> Though mine is Swiss QWERTZ, yours is German I guess.
#1433 [17:05] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1434 [17:05] <Helloman892> I have QWERTY. I'm English.
#1435 [17:05] <Helloman892> ?? keyboard
#1436 [17:05] <Helloman892> I mean, DAFUQ?
#1437 [17:05] <Helloman892> ?? minecraft
#1438 [17:05] <Boreeas> Yep
#1439 [17:05] <Helloman892> ...
#1440 [17:05] <Morrolan> Oh well, in the end keyboard layouts are mostly just something you have to get used to, I haven't seen one which has real advantages over others.
#1441 [17:05] <Helloman892> ...
#1442 [17:06] <Morrolan> Ofcourse, having access to a language's accents with one keypress only is neat.
#1443 [17:06] <Helloman892> Vox is apparantly stipid.
#1444 [17:06] <Morrolan> How come?
#1445 [17:06] <Helloman892> stupid*
#1446 [17:06] * Kendecil [Kendecil@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1447 [17:06] <Helloman892> ?? minecraft
#1448 [17:06] <Helloman892> ^
#1449 [17:06] <Boreeas> ?? minecraft
#1450 [17:06] <Helloman892> Exactly.
#1451 [17:06] <Morrolan> THelloman892 - here is no minecraft entry. (Or it's not in the index yet)
#1452 [17:06] <Boreeas> There is one
#1453 [17:06] <Kendecil> I can't purchase mineccraft?
#1454 [17:06] <Boreeas> Flood protection just kicked in
#1455 [17:06] <Morrolan> ??!
#1456 [17:06] <Morrolan> There you go.
#1457 [17:06] <Helloman892> What's the problem Kendicil?
#1458 [17:06] <Helloman892> ??!
#1459 [17:07] <Helloman892> What? Lol.
#1460 [17:07] <Morrolan> ??< minecraft
#1461 [17:07] <Boreeas> Heh, that one is new
#1462 [17:07] <Helloman892> Anyway.
#1463 [17:07] <Morrolan> There is no minecraft entry, still.
#1464 [17:07] <Helloman892> What's up, Kendicil?
#1465 [17:07] <Kendecil> I just got a prepaid debit card it isnt working and also tried my dads debit card
#1466 [17:07] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1467 [17:07] <Kendecil> Nothing works. ive been trying for 4 days
#1468 [17:07] <Boreeas> Ah. VoxelHead apparently checks flood protection first, then if the factoid exis
#1469 [17:07] <Helloman892> Could you give us your card number, and we'll- Just joking, lol.
#1470 [17:07] <Morrolan> Prepaid cards aren't allowed for international transfers by default, call the support number and ask them to unlock it.
#1471 [17:07] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Ah, that might be. :)
#1472 [17:07] <Helloman892> Yes, ^
#1473 [17:07] <xales> Morrolan: I don't think they are unlockable, usually. Also, ?? prepaid
#1474 [17:08] <Helloman892> True
#1475 [17:08] <Helloman892> ?? prepaid
#1476 [17:08] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1477 [17:08] <Helloman892> There.
#1478 [17:08] <Morrolan> xales - Ah, that might be. NEver owned one.
#1479 [17:08] <Kendecil> Okay
#1480 [17:08] <Kendecil> I tried my dads Mastercard and that isnt working, I tried that one first
#1481 [17:08] * mandapandajane [mandapandajane@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1482 [17:08] <Helloman892> But you say it didn't work on your father's either?
#1483 [17:08] <Helloman892> Hmm...
#1484 [17:09] <Kendecil> Yes
#1485 [17:09] <Helloman892> Help, guys.
#1486 [17:09] <Morrolan> Kendecil - Chances are his credit card provider blocked the payment, suggest you call the credit card institute and ask them whether the payment got through.
#1487 [17:09] <Morrolan> Respectively, he should call it, since it's his card.
#1488 [17:09] <Helloman892> Yeah. DO that.
#1489 [17:09] <Helloman892> ?? caps
#1490 [17:09] <Helloman892> Hmpf.
#1491 [17:09] <Kendecil> Its a lojack
#1492 [17:09] <Helloman892> ?? love
#1493 [17:09] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1494 [17:09] <mandapandajane> hello, i have updated minecraft to 1.2.5 it's the first version i have had on my laptop, to accomodate this i have updated java and my graphics driver, however when my character moves it's leading arm turns black and the game jumps, helpo?
#1495 [17:09] <xales> Helloman892: Please test factoids in ##voxelhead , not here.
#1496 [17:10] <Kendecil> My dad is gonna call the company, then the bank
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#1498 [17:10] <Helloman892> Not everything. Got it, xales :D
#1499 [17:10] <xales> Kendecil: Call the bank first, they are the ones denying the transaction.
#1500 [17:10] <Kendecil> I'll let you know if it works or not thanks guys.
#1501 [17:10] <xales> ??> mandapandajane win/dxdiag
#1502 [17:10] <VoxelHead> mandapandajane: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1503 [17:10] <VoxelHead> mandapandajane: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1504 [17:10] <Helloman892> Ok, mandapandajane. We can't really help you there, it's a graphical cglitch, dxdiag is all that'll help.
#1505 [17:11] * Helloman892 is pretty damn sure
#1505 [17:11] <Helloman892> !paid Kendicil
#1506 [17:11] <xales> Helloman892: If you're not sure, you don't need to say anything. :p
#1507 [17:11] <Helloman892> Okey dokey.
#1508 [17:11] <Helloman892> Yeah, I know, xales.
#1509 [17:11] <Morrolan> a) You misspelled it, b) Don't assume that their MC name is the same as their IRC nick. ;)
#1510 [17:11] <Helloman892> I'm new to this whole 'helping' thing.
#1511 [17:11] <Helloman892> Alright.
#1512 [17:12] <Helloman892> It was an attempt at learning syntax anyway.
#1513 [17:12] <Helloman892> !paid Morrolan
#1514 [17:12] <Helloman892> I see.
#1515 [17:12] <Morrolan> xales - Hmm, how come bank deny transfers? Atleast with my card my bank account gets charged at the end of the month only, so I always assumed that, during payments with a card, the bank isn't involved.
#1516 [17:12] <Helloman892> [/proves point]
#1517 [17:12] <mandapandajane> Voxelhead: http://pastebin.com/9HzfLN62
#1518 [17:12] <Morrolan> (I'm not familiar with the whole process, so bear with me ;D)
#1519 [17:13] <xales> Morrolan: Banks are typically the card issuers.
#1520 [17:13] <Morrolan> Ah, I guess that's different in the US than in Europe (or maybe even only different in Switzerland) then. :)
#1521 [17:13] <Helloman892> It's your graphics card, I believe, mandapandajane.
#1522 [17:14] <Kendecil> My dad is calling loJack he wasn't using his checking/bank account
#1523 [17:14] <Helloman892> Minecraft doesn't run well with intergrated graphics.
#1524 [17:14] <Helloman892> And who the hell are loJack?
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#1526 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: your bank (or rather the card issue, which is usually your bank) also must approve or decline each transaction at the time it is made.
#1527 [17:15] <Kendecil> A debit card comapny
#1528 [17:15] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#1529 [17:15] <Helloman892> Thanks.
#1530 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> \o
#1531 [17:15] <Helloman892> ?? me
#1532 [17:15] <Helloman892> Damn.
#1533 [17:15] <Helloman892> ??< index
#1534 [17:15] <xales> Uhh...wha....okay.
#1535 [17:15] <Morrolan> Helloman892 - There is ##voxelhead to test Vox. :)
#1536 [17:15] <Helloman892> I know.
#1537 [17:15] <Morrolan> So, how come you throw a "?? me" in here? ;)
#1538 [17:16] <Helloman892> Just... So I can.
#1539 [17:16] <Morrolan> Uhu.
#1540 [17:16] <Helloman892> Because you can't stop me.
#1541 [17:16] <Morrolan> I beg to differ.
#1542 [17:16] <Helloman892> Valid enough?
#1543 [17:16] <Rikairchy> Helloman892
#1544 [17:16] <Helloman892> Don't kick me, bro.
#1545 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> please text in ##VoxelHead when there are people being assisted in #minecrafthelp so as to improve S:N
#1546 [17:16] <Helloman892> Yeah?
#1547 [17:16] <Rikairchy> see that '@' sign?
#1548 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> we, test
#1549 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> er, er,
#1550 [17:16] <Helloman892> Yeah, yeah, I know what it means.
#1551 [17:16] <Rikairchy> he can do whatever he damn well pleases
#1552 [17:16] <Rikairchy> within reason
#1553 [17:16] <Helloman892> I know that.
#1554 [17:17] <Rikairchy> then your previous statement is invalid
#1555 [17:17] <Rikairchy> going by what you said
#1556 [17:17] <Helloman892> Will do, Dope.
#1557 [17:17] <Helloman892> By-the-way.
#1558 [17:17] <mandapandajane> ##VoxelHead could you pm me when you've looked over the pastebin file, I'm going afk for a few mins, thx
#1559 [17:17] <Helloman892> How so, Rikairchy?
#1560 [17:17] <VoxelHead> Will do, once I have gained sentience.
#1561 [17:18] <Morrolan> mandapandajane - VoxelHead is a bot, but whoever used it to ask you to create a DxDiag file will get back to you. :)
#1562 [17:18] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#1563 [17:18] <Helloman892> I've looked at it.
#1564 [17:18] <Helloman892> It's his/her graphics.
#1565 [17:18] <Helloman892> Integrated Intel graphics. Minecraft hates 'em.
#1566 [17:18] <Kendecil> His checking account didn't work.
#1567 [17:19] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1568 [17:19] <Helloman892> Incidentally, Kendecil, are you under the same name in Minecraft?
#1569 [17:19] <Kendecil> My real name? no
#1570 [17:19] <Helloman892> As in, is Kendecil your MC name.
#1571 [17:19] <Helloman892> Sorry, just asking.
#1572 [17:19] <Kendecil> Yes
#1573 [17:19] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1574 [17:20] <Helloman892> !paid Kendecil
#1575 [17:20] <Helloman892> There we are.
#1576 [17:20] <Helloman892> Reasonable use of the !paid command?
#1577 [17:20] <Kendecil> Hehe
#1578 [17:20] <Helloman892> Anyways, I'mma hit the sack.
#1579 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: have fun with the sackhitting.
#1580 [17:20] <Helloman892> Will do, Dope.
#1581 [17:21] <Kendecil> Tried Debit, checking, and prepaid nope.
#1582 [17:21] <Helloman892> See y'all.
#1583 [17:21] <Kendecil> bye
#1584 [17:22] <Kendecil> Has my bank blacklisted minecraft?
#1585 [17:22] <Kendecil> possibly?
#1586 [17:22] <xales> Kendecil: You'd have to ask them that.
#1587 [17:23] <xales> Kendecil: They may just deny all international transfers unless approved beforehand, due to the high risk of fraud.
#1588 [17:23] <Kendecil> Yeah, but I just want to know why it wont work
#1589 [17:23] <Kendecil> Should I call the bank?
#1590 [17:23] <xales> You'd have to ask your bank that.
#1591 [17:23] <xales> As nice as it would be, we cannot divine this information for you.
#1592 [17:24] <Kendecil> Yeah lol.
#1593 [17:24] * Elystus|afk [Elystus|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1594 [17:24] <Kendecil> Do you like work at minecraft or something? Because you know a lot
#1595 [17:25] <xales> Nope, for the most part, everyone here is a volunteer.
#1596 [17:25] <Kendecil> Okay
#1597 [17:25] <Rikairchy> or just nerds
#1598 [17:25] <Rikairchy> with no life
#1599 [17:25] <TheNoodle> And then there's xales, he works for the government
#1600 [17:25] <Rikairchy> I do too D:
#1601 [17:25] <xales> TheNoodle: Works for?
#1602 [17:25] <xales> I *am* the government.
#1603 [17:25] <Rikairchy> D:
#1604 [17:26] <Rikairchy> i work for xales :(
#1605 [17:26] <TheNoodle> :o
#1606 [17:26] <Boreeas> Hello King Louis
#1607 [17:26] <Rikairchy> xales I need a raise
#1608 [17:26] <xales> Rikairchy: Oh, hello, underling.
#1609 [17:26] <xales> Rikairchy: Oh, hello, underling.
#1610 [17:26] * TheNoodle [TheNoodle@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1611 [17:26] <Rikairchy> you wont think that when i shoot ya
#1612 [17:26] <xales> Rikairchy: WHERE ARE MY TPS REPORTS.
#1613 [17:26] <xales> ???????????
#1614 [17:26] <Rikairchy> the hell is TPS
#1615 [17:26] <Boreeas> Haha xales
#1616 [17:26] <Rikairchy> dude I manage a network and shoot things on occasion
#1617 [17:26] <Kendecil> I have the xbox edition, but I want to get the comp. edition because I want the major updates, and to play with my friends,etc.,etc.
#1618 [17:26] <xales> Rikairchy: Testing Procedure Specification.
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#1620 [17:27] <Rikairchy> oh no
#1621 [17:27] <Kendecil> Brb dinner
#1622 [17:27] <Morrolan> Enjoy.
#1623 [17:27] <Morrolan> Or "eetse", like the Dutchies would say.
#1624 [17:28] <Kendecil> Fried rice and chicked. WOO. But not "woo" about not having MC.
#1625 [17:28] * RobTheAwesome [RobTheAwesome@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1626 [17:28] <Kendecil> chicken*
#1627 [17:30] * Parent [Parent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1628 [17:31] <Parent> Looking for a refund on game just purchased
#1629 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> ?? refund
#1630 [17:31] <Rikairchy> good luck
#1631 [17:31] <Parent> ???
#1632 [17:31] <Rikairchy> any particular reason?
#1633 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> Just a moment
#1634 [17:32] <Morrolan> Mojang rarely issues refunds.
#1635 [17:32] <Parent> easy, if they don't I dispute the charge as this thing just locks up on the server it is using.
#1636 [17:32] <Rikairchy> on the one server?
#1637 [17:32] <Grim_Reaper> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#1638 [17:32] <Parent> \IT DOES NOT WORK. Simple!
#1639 [17:32] <Morrolan> You could also explain your issue, maybe someone will be able to fix it.
#1640 [17:32] <Rikairchy> have you tried others?
#1641 [17:32] <Rikairchy> less caps, please.
#1642 [17:32] <Rikairchy> its impolite
#1643 [17:33] <Parent> Connecting via my home network. No other devices and all it does is lock up every 30 seconds.
#1644 [17:33] <Morrolan> Explain your issue in more detail.
#1645 [17:33] <Grim_Reaper> Parent that may be able to be fixed. But we need more info on your issue
#1646 [17:33] <Rikairchy> does Single Player work?
#1647 [17:34] <Parent> Okay...Purchased, install it and Java update. Ran program, created world...locks up and cannot play without restarting every few minues
#1648 [17:34] <Grim_Reaper> ?? Parent win/dxdiag
#1649 [17:34] <xales> Grim_Reaper: ._.
#1650 [17:34] <xales> ??> Parent win/dxdiag
#1651 [17:34] <VoxelHead> Parent: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1652 [17:34] <VoxelHead> Parent: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1653 [17:34] <Grim_Reaper> thanks xales. I forgot the >
#1654 [17:34] <Grim_Reaper> Parent please follow those instructions
#1655 [17:35] <Parent> You have to be kidding...
#1656 [17:35] <Elystus> Grim_Reaper: I think we may be able to diagnose this issue w/o a dxdiag
#1657 [17:35] <Rikairchy> no Parent
#1658 [17:35] <xales> Parent: If you want it to work, you can follow the instructions. They aren't complicated, and it doesn't take a long time.
#1659 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> Elystus it helps with dxdiag
#1660 [17:35] <Rikairchy> and we can only help those that help themselves
#1661 [17:35] <Parent> I
#1662 [17:36] <Rikairchy> inb4rage
#1663 [17:36] <Elystus> Grim_Reaper: Yea it does. But most of the time it is an issue with the ammount of ram allocated to minecraft.
#1664 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Also just a heads up. None of us actually work for Mojang. We are just community helpers
#1665 [17:36] <Rikairchy> volunteers
#1666 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Elystus thats why I want to see how much ram is in the pc first of all
#1667 [17:36] <Elystus> Grim_Reaper: I see your point ;)
#1668 [17:37] <Kendecil> Best dinner ever
#1669 [17:37] <Parent> I can appreciate that, volunteers. I'm tunning 8gig Ram
#1670 [17:37] <Kendecil> Wait, could it be cause of my computer type?
#1671 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways please just follow the dxdiag thing from VoxelHead so we can check what else could be causing it to lock up
#1672 [17:37] <xales> Parent: When you say "locks up" do you mean it freezes for a few seconds, or that you have to close it and open it again? Does it give you an error, such as "Not enough memory?"
#1673 [17:37] <xales> Kendecil: Could what?
#1674 [17:38] <Parent> Sorry, without knowing who you are, I am not running anything I am not sure of on my box...
#1675 [17:38] <Kendecil> Could it be because I have a different type of computer?
#1676 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> Parent.. dxdiag is a windows program...
#1677 [17:38] <Rikairchy> Parent have you heard of TeamViewer?
#1678 [17:38] <xales> Parent: Well, given that dxdiag is the DirectX diagnostic tool already on your computer, that's pretty ridiculous.
#1679 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> It lists information about your computer, such as ram, video card, processor, operating system and such
#1680 [17:39] <xales> Parent: But if you aren't going to accept help, don't ask for it.
#1681 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> So unless you will kindly follow VoxelHead's instructions. I doubt we can help you
#1682 [17:39] <Elystus> Rikairchy: Not the right time for teamviewer :/
#1683 [17:39] <Kendecil> Would MC be better on a mac?
#1684 [17:39] <Rikairchy> ew mac :(
#1685 [17:39] <xales> Kendecil: Depends on the hardware, not what OS it's running.
#1686 [17:39] <Boreeas> Kendecil: Minecraft as a Java program runs on all operating systems
#1687 [17:39] <RobTheAwesome> lol
#1688 [17:40] <Kendecil> My dad is getting a 27" screen mac computer
#1689 [17:40] <Kendecil> Okay
#1690 [17:40] <Parent> Have a good day volunteers. Calling credit card company now. :)
#1691 [17:40] <Rikairchy> ....
#1692 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> Have fun Parent
#1693 [17:40] <xales> Parent: We really don't care.
#1694 [17:40] <Rikairchy> no real point.
#1695 [17:40] <Rikairchy> have fun though
#1696 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> I honestly dont know why he comes here
#1697 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> Asking for help
#1698 [17:40] <Rikairchy> it'll be...interesting
#1699 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> Then wont even follow our instructions to be helped
#1700 [17:40] <xales> ??> Parent attitude
#1701 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Parent: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1702 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Parent: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1703 [17:40] * xales kicked Parent from #minecrafthelp (Reason: arent :Bye.)
#1704 [17:41] <Grim_Reaper> I would have kicked him goodbye myself.. But yeah.. I lack the POWA
#1705 [17:41] <Boreeas> Success
#1706 [17:41] <Rikairchy> fight the power!
#1707 [17:41] <Rikairchy> dont let the man keep you down!
#1708 [17:41] <xales> Grim_Reaper: /msg ChanServ KICK #minecrafthelp Grim_Reaper
#1709 [17:41] <xales> :p
#1710 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> /msg chanserv aop #minecrafthelp add Grim_Reaper
#1711 [17:42] <Rikairchy> doesnt work like that
#1712 [17:42] <Rikairchy> AOP isnt a chanserv command
#1713 [17:42] <xales> AOP doesn't exist any longer. >:P
#1714 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> Some IRC servers work like that
#1715 [17:42] <Rikairchy> its an alias to a template
#1716 [17:42] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Some IRC services. :P
#1717 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1718 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> then !flags Grim_Reaper +o :p
#1719 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1720 [17:42] <Rikairchy> you'd have to do /cs flags #minecrafthelp Grim_Reaper +<flags>
#1721 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#1722 [17:42] <Rikairchy> or !AOP add Grim_Reaper
#1723 [17:43] <xales> Rikairchy: No, that doesn't work either.
#1724 [17:43] <xales> :p
#1725 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> yeah
#1726 [17:43] <Rikairchy> not here?
#1727 [17:43] <AmberK> /msg cs kick #minecrafthelp AmberK
#1728 [17:43] <AmberK> ;-;
#1729 [17:43] <xales> Rikairchy: /cs flags #minecrafthelp grim_reaper AOP
#1730 [17:43] <xales> :p
#1731 [17:43] <Rikairchy> what archaic IRCd are you running
#1732 [17:43] <Kendecil> Would the bank know why MC wouldn't work?
#1733 [17:43] <AmberK> ....
#1734 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> Kendecil only why the payment might not work..
#1735 [17:43] <xales> Rikairchy: We chose not to allow that, fantasy commands are just chanserv shorthand.
#1736 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> If thats what you're refering to
#1737 [17:43] <Boreeas> Rikairchy: [23:43:26] [351] charybdis-3.3.0(unknown). aperture.esper.net eHIKMpSZ6 TS6ow 2AP
#1738 [17:43] <Rikairchy> what daemon is it though?
#1739 [17:44] <xales> Rikairchy: /version
#1740 [17:44] <Rikairchy> inspIRCd? unrealIRCd?
#1741 [17:44] <Rikairchy> k
#1742 [17:44] <Boreeas> Charybdis
#1743 [17:44] <Rikairchy> never heard of it
#1744 [17:44] * Rikairchy google
#1744 [17:44] <Kendecil> It says (when I try my dads checking account) Card disabled for 24 hours etc.
#1745 [17:44] <xales> Rikairchy: It's developed in tandem with Atheme
#1746 [17:44] <Rikairchy> fraud prevention
#1747 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> /ns identify xales ImABarbieGirl
#1748 [17:45] <xales> Grim_Reaper: That's actually shockingly similar to my password >_>
#1749 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> .
#1750 [17:45] <Rikairchy> rofl
#1751 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Holy fuck
#1752 [17:45] * AuBot kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Please keep it civil.)
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#1754 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> lold
#1755 [17:45] <Boreeas> TMI
#1756 [17:45] <Rikairchy> ohhhhh
#1757 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> brb going to try ghost xales >_>
#1758 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1759 [17:45] <Kendecil> My dad is not listening to my minecraft stuff because he doesn't want to try to fix it.
#1760 [17:45] <Rikairchy> its the successor of Hyperion
#1761 [17:45] <Rikairchy> Kendecil:
#1762 [17:45] <Rikairchy> tell him to call the bank
#1763 [17:45] <Rikairchy> and tell them it wasnt fraud
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#1765 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> Hello TheNoodle
#1766 [17:46] <Kendecil> Told him, hes all duhued about it.
#1767 [17:46] <Rikairchy> punch him in the face
#1768 [17:46] <Rikairchy> i mean
#1769 [17:46] <TheNoodle> I need help with minecraft
#1770 [17:46] <Rikairchy> ask nicely
#1771 [17:46] <Kendecil> LOL
#1772 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> ?
#1773 [17:46] * TheNoodle has waited 10 seconds
#1773 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> A helper.. needs help with minecraft
#1774 [17:46] <Rikairchy> TheNoodle: we dont help your kind here :3
#1775 [17:46] <TheNoodle> UR ALL BAD
#1776 [17:46] <TheNoodle> UR ALL BAD
#1777 [17:46] * TheNoodle [TheNoodle@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1778 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> This... is interesting
#1779 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> loll
#1780 [17:46] <Rikairchy> trololol
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#1783 [17:47] <TheNoodle> :3
#1784 [17:47] <Kendecil> I'll punch him... I mean ask nicely.
#1785 [17:47] * Grim_Reaper hugs TheNoodle
#1785 [17:47] * Rikairchy duct tapes Grim_Reaper and TheNoodle together
#1785 [17:47] <Grim_Reaper> :o
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#1787 [17:47] <TheNoodle> hmm
#1788 [17:47] <mib_mibmib> halp?
#1789 [17:47] <TheNoodle> does AuBot respond again?
#1790 [17:47] <TheNoodle> does AuBot respond again?
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#1792 [17:47] <Guest73428> Sorry, hi
#1793 [17:47] <Rikairchy> lol
#1794 [17:47] <Rikairchy> mibbit
#1795 [17:48] <Kendecil> The bank is closed -.-
#1796 [17:48] <Rikairchy> D:
#1797 [17:48] * mib_mibmib [mib_mibmib@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1798 [17:48] <Rikairchy> theres this thing called tomorrow
#1799 [17:48] <Rikairchy> it might help then
#1800 [17:48] <Guest73428> Parent again, just letting yu know the charge is disputed and reversed. Not that hard! See ya. :):):) p.s. I WIN!
#1801 [17:48] <Kendecil> Never hid of this "tomorrow"
#1802 [17:48] <Rikairchy> someone kickban that fool?
#1803 [17:48] <Kendecil> heard*
#1804 [17:48] <Guest73428> bitch
#1805 [17:48] <Boreeas> You don'T seem to understand, Guest73428
#1806 [17:48] <Rikairchy> Guest27578:
#1807 [17:48] <Boreeas> We don't give a fuck
#1808 [17:48] * Boreeas kicked Guest73428 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uest73428 :Guest73428)
#1809 [17:48] <Rikairchy> carefactor is 0
#1810 [17:49] <Rikairchy> D:
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#1812 [17:49] <Grim_Reaper> lold
#1813 [17:49] <TheNoodle> wat
#1814 [17:49] <Boreeas> Welcome back, Parent
#1815 [17:49] <MS123> it so easy to drive you guys nuts!!!
#1816 [17:50] <Grim_Reaper> MS123. We honestly..
#1817 [17:50] <Grim_Reaper> Dont care
#1818 [17:50] <TheNoodle> You're an idiot MS123 <3
#1819 [17:50] * VoxelHead kicked MS123 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: S123 :Banned)
#1820 [17:50] <Boreeas> We win.
#1821 [17:50] <Rikairchy> can it say "pwnd" instead?
#1822 [17:50] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1823 [17:50] <Kendecil> What would happen if I gave mojang 50$ and they bought it for me :3
#1824 [17:50] <Rikairchy> then you're a fool
#1825 [17:50] <Kendecil> I know....
#1826 [17:50] <Rikairchy> they should take paypal....
#1827 [17:50] <Kendecil> Tried it
#1828 [17:51] <Kendecil> I put my dads debit card in paypal. STILL NO WORK..
#1829 [17:51] <Kendecil> My friend had his other friend buy it for him.
#1830 [17:51] <Kendecil> He used paypal.
#1831 [17:52] <Kendecil> But paypal no work for me...
#1832 [17:52] <Kendecil> I should probably use my prepaid card before my dad does right?
#1833 [17:53] <Kendecil> Oh yeah, BTW I'm in USA not Sweden.
#1834 [17:54] <Kendecil> My dad wins a trip from his work every year... PLEASE LET IT BE SWEDEN!
#1835 [17:54] <Rikairchy> i should be a minecraft reseller
#1836 [17:55] <Kendecil> What do you mean by that?
#1837 [17:55] <Morrolan> Buying copies, selling them again.
#1838 [17:55] <Elystus> Aka, not really legal...
#1839 [17:55] <Morrolan> Eh.
#1840 [17:56] <Morrolan> Not sure. I'd not buy it from some shady source, due to risk of fraud and whatnot.
#1841 [17:56] <Morrolan> But I'm not actually sure whether it's illegal. *shrug*
#1842 [17:56] <Morrolan> Maybe it is.
#1843 [17:56] <Rikairchy> if you dont have permission
#1844 [17:56] <Kendecil> I bought Max Payne3 that came with GTA IV (I already have it) and I wanna resell the copy itr came with.
#1845 [17:56] <Rikairchy> be a US-based seller
#1846 [17:56] <Rikairchy> on steam?
#1847 [17:56] <Kendecil> Wait can you buy MC on steam?
#1848 [17:57] <Rikairchy> no
#1849 [17:57] <Morrolan> No.
#1850 [17:57] <Kendecil> Aw...
#1851 [17:57] <Rikairchy> i was asking about the GTA/MP thing
#1852 [17:57] <Morrolan> He was referring to GTA IV.
#1853 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#1854 [17:57] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1855 [17:57] * cody [cody@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1856 [17:57] <cody> hey
#1857 [17:57] <Morrolan> Steam is nice in that you can trade games against other games. :)
#1858 [17:57] <cody> is anyone here?
#1859 [17:57] <Rikairchy> well
#1860 [17:57] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Yes, yes, we know. ;)
#1861 [17:57] <Morrolan> cody - Just ask.
#1862 [17:57] <cody> wait wait
#1863 [17:57] <cody> i need help
#1864 [17:57] <Rikairchy> Morrolan: only if you haven't installed them
#1865 [17:57] <cody> ok
#1866 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> nobody here but us IRC denizens.
#1867 [17:57] <cody> so heres the problem
#1868 [17:57] <Rikairchy> i have a ton of games I don't even play
#1869 [17:57] <Guest34153> heres my problem
#1870 [17:57] <Morrolan> Rikairchy - Well, ofcourse only if you didn't redeem them yet, yea.
#1871 [17:58] <Rikairchy> :(
#1872 [17:58] <Guest34153> wait
#1873 [17:58] <Guest34153> please
#1874 [17:58] <Guest34153> i really need help
#1875 [17:58] <Guest34153> ok
#1876 [17:58] <Morrolan> So do I, I only played on third of the games on my list.
#1877 [17:58] <Guest34153> so
#1878 [17:58] <Kendecil> Guest may be Parent
#1879 [17:58] <Morrolan> Guest27578 - Yes, we got that.
#1880 [17:58] <Morrolan> Just ask.
#1881 [17:58] <Morrolan> Meh, different ISP
#1882 [17:58] <Guest34153> does anyone know what kingdom craft is
#1883 [17:58] <Kendecil> k
#1884 [17:58] <Rikairchy> ?? Guest27578 mods
#1885 [17:58] <Morrolan> Sounds like a RPG server, but I don't know.
#1886 [17:58] <Rikairchy> errr
#1887 [17:58] <Guest34153> yes mods
#1888 [17:58] <Guest34153> for minecraft
#1889 [17:58] <Rikairchy> ??> Guest27578 mods
#1890 [17:58] <VoxelHead> Guest27578: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1891 [17:58] <Morrolan> Ah, then no, never heard of. :)
#1892 [17:58] <VoxelHead> Guest27578: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1893 [17:58] <Morrolan> Rikairchy - You may not support mods, doesn't mean you have to throw that factoid at everyone asking about them.
#1894 [17:59] <Rikairchy> :( but its the only one I know how to use
#1895 [17:59] <Rikairchy> and I do support them
#1896 [17:59] <Kendecil> I modded Gta IV wooo!
#1897 [17:59] <Rikairchy> I just dont support pirates
#1898 [17:59] <Kendecil> I like mods, but a game like minecraft, no.
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#1900 [18:00] <Kendecil> In X360 edition I have about 150 diamonds
#1901 [18:02] <Kendecil> My dad says it's Minecraft not the bank.
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#1903 [18:02] <Morrolan> That is highly unlikely.
#1904 [18:02] <Kendecil> Yeah.
#1905 [18:02] <Kendecil> But, my friends had problems with it to.
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#1907 [18:03] <Rikairchy> its because its foreign-based
#1908 [18:03] <Kendecil> Yeah...
#1909 [18:03] <Morrolan> Is this fear of credit card fraud really that present in the US?
#1910 [18:04] <Rikairchy> yes
#1911 [18:04] <Rikairchy> I had my account locked for 12 hours for buying GBP15 with my US card
#1912 [18:04] <Morrolan> That's interesting.
#1913 [18:04] <Rikairchy> well, bought using skype
#1914 [18:04] <Morrolan> Oh my.
#1915 [18:05] <Kendecil> You guys can tell Notch stuff right?
#1916 [18:05] <Rikairchy> lol
#1917 [18:05] <Kendecil> If you can and stuff, ask them to like put MC on Steam.
#1918 [18:05] <Kendecil> Steam is popular and it'll work in US better
#1919 [18:05] <Rikairchy> then Valve gets a majority of the profits
#1920 [18:05] <Rikairchy> and you'd need to rewrite the game
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#1922 [18:06] <Kendecil> Still, you would get more Euros.
#1923 [18:06] <Morrolan> I believe there once was a Reddit post or similar of one of Mojang's employees about Steam / why not to put it on Steam.
#1924 [18:06] <Morrolan> Had something to do with updates to games on Steam having to be approved by Valve or similar.
#1925 [18:06] * TheNoodle nods
#1925 [18:06] <Morrolan> Apart from that, Minecraft has now reached a level of popularity where being available on Steam wouldn't boost sales exorbitantly I think.
#1926 [18:07] <Morrolan> The issues with Moneybookers are a big problem though, I agree.
#1927 [18:07] <Kendecil> Don't make fun of me, but the other day I cried 2 hours straight cause I tried to get MC to work for the whole day.
#1928 [18:07] <TheNoodle> Some studios (like CCP) have given up on getting their updates approved on steam.
#1929 [18:07] <Kendecil> Wow.
#1930 [18:08] <Kendecil> I don't do Halloween anymore, but I wanna be a Creeper.
#1931 [18:08] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1932 [18:09] <Morrolan> Until someone charges at you with a stonern sword ;D
#1933 [18:09] <Morrolan> stonelike / stony*
#1934 [18:09] <Kendecil> AW CRAP
#1935 [18:09] <Kendecil> I would explode >:3
#1936 [18:09] <Boreeas> Stoner sword?
#1937 [18:09] <Boreeas> I know what you mean, man
#1938 [18:09] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#1939 [18:09] <Kendecil> 'Bout Diamond sword?
#1940 [18:09] <Kendecil> Gold sucks.
#1941 [18:09] <Boreeas> It's, like, the worst sword ever, you know what I mean?
#1942 [18:10] <Morrolan> That's one of the few cases where German has a much more elegant construct than English IMO. :)
#1943 [18:10] <Kendecil> Gold or Diamond?
#1944 [18:10] <Morrolan> "Steinern" just sounds a tad more elegant than "stony"
#1945 [18:10] <Boreeas> I think in some cases you could do something like "stonen sword"
#1946 [18:10] <Kendecil> Yeah lol
#1947 [18:10] <Morrolan> Maybe.
#1948 [18:10] <Boreeas> It does sound weird though, yeah
#1949 [18:11] <Kendecil> Ello sir, would like to tackle that creeper with this stonen sword? It would be my honor.
#1950 [18:11] <Boreeas> Smashing
#1951 [18:12] <Morrolan> Tackle me for sweets!
#1952 [18:12] <Kendecil> Do you have snickers?
#1953 [18:12] <Kendecil> What about Milkyway?
#1954 [18:12] <Morrolan> Hmm, neither.
#1955 [18:12] <Kendecil> Never mind ):
#1956 [18:13] <Morrolan> Also, depending on where in the US you live I'd end up in jail if I'd give you sweets. xD
#1957 [18:13] <Kendecil> BTW, is there a support number to call?
#1958 [18:13] <Kendecil> XD
#1959 [18:13] <Morrolan> Nope, no phone support. :)
#1960 [18:13] <Morrolan> There's a web form to send them a mail, but they're currently working on mails from two months ago.
#1961 [18:14] <Kendecil> So thats why nobody gets a reply for along time.
#1962 [18:14] <Morrolan> Exactly.
#1963 [18:14] <Kendecil> They need to make a phone support
#1964 [18:14] <Morrolan> And since lots of people send dozens of mails if they don't get an immediate response they have even more trouble keeping up.
#1965 [18:14] <Morrolan> Eh, they would have to outsource phone support, and this would be expensive, and very low quality.
#1966 [18:14] <Kendecil> Yeah
#1967 [18:15] <Kendecil> Yeah true.
#1968 [18:15] <Morrolan> Their best bet is to catch up on those hundreds of mails, and then keep up with the freshly sent mails, so they can respond within a few days.
#1969 [18:15] <Morrolan> I just hope they manage to catch up sometimes this year. ^^
#1970 [18:16] <Kendecil> Are the trusted users (+) volunteers and the admins (@) work at Mojang
#1971 [18:16] <Morrolan> No, the only Mojang employee in here is moll.stam.
#1972 [18:16] <Morrolan> Everyone else is a volunteer. :)
#1973 [18:16] <Kendecil> Okay :3
#1974 [18:16] <Morrolan> Marc_IRL is also in here every now and then, but not regularly.
#1975 [18:16] <Kendecil> So you kind of work at Mojang
#1976 [18:16] <Kendecil> Okay
#1977 [18:17] <Morrolan> Well, we do decrease the load on their support personel a bit, but we don't work there.
#1978 [18:17] <Kendecil> Okay
#1979 [18:17] <Morrolan> Meaning we don't get paid, but we also can leave whenever we want, and only have to help when we feel like it.
#1980 [18:17] <Kendecil> Okay. XD
#1981 [18:18] <Kendecil> Maybe this should be my first kind of a job?
#1982 [18:18] <Morrolan> Honestly, I couldn't imagine working in support.
#1983 [18:18] <Morrolan> You have to either be desperate, or have a very special kind of personality, to work in support 24/7.
#1984 [18:18] <Boreeas> I would just sit in a corner and cry after the first week
#1985 [18:18] <Kendecil> I know right.
#1986 [18:19] <AuroraTree> This is a more friendly kind of support, given by community.
#1987 [18:19] <Morrolan> I look at it as my daily good deed. ;D
#1988 [18:19] <Boreeas> Here, we can be as rude as we want, as opposed to doing it as a job.
#1989 [18:19] <Kendecil> XD Okay.
#1990 [18:19] <Morrolan> And, more importantly, can take a break when we need one.
#1991 [18:19] <Kendecil> You guys have an Xbox?
#1992 [18:19] <Morrolan> Every now and then someone just disappears for a few days. :P
#1993 [18:19] <Morrolan> I do not. :)
#1994 [18:19] <Kendecil> :P
#1995 [18:19] <Kendecil> I can't wait till GTA V
#1996 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> you'll have to.
#1997 [18:20] <Kendecil> Har har har.
#1998 [18:21] <Kendecil> Ha ha ha*
#1999 [18:21] <Kendecil> Is it true that the next update to MC X360 Edition is Creative Mode?
#2000 [18:24] <Kendecil> I went to the Apple store (Famous computer company as you probably know) I was on a mac, and saw the minecraft icon, clicked. My life. Has. Changed. Forever.
#2001 [18:24] <Morrolan> Oh, you could try it out there?
#2002 [18:24] <Kendecil> Yes, it worked there for some reason.
#2003 [18:25] <Morrolan> Heh, that's a swee marketing idea, letting people play some games on a computer you're trying to sell. :)
#2004 [18:25] <Morrolan> sweet*
#2005 [18:25] <Kendecil> Yeah
#2006 [18:25] <Kendecil> The username was Adamm123
#2007 [18:25] <Kendecil> I tried to get the password...
#2008 [18:25] <einand> can a mac handle minecraft on the new retina screen?
#2009 [18:26] <Kendecil> Yeah.
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#2011 [18:26] <einand> how many fps?
#2012 [18:26] <Kendecil> Idk.
#2013 [18:26] <Boreeas> Kendecil: You just need to crack the lastlogin file ;)
#2014 [18:26] <einand> i find it hard, as only a few computer does, on that resolution
#2015 [18:26] <Kendecil> My dad is getting a 27" mac
#2016 [18:27] * einand was outdoors shoting spiders today
#2016 [18:27] <Kendecil> Boreeas: I wish I had enough time...
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#2018 [18:27] <Morrolan> Boreeas - How is the password stored there, even? Merely a hash value?
#2019 [18:27] <Kendecil> Maybe it was babaa884670643e8ba4af582f3dbb5d8
#2020 [18:28] <instantxkilla1> i installed mods and i installed this one mod and it erased all the other mods what should i do?
#2021 [18:28] <Boreeas> Morrolan: I would have to decompile the launcher and check
#2022 [18:28] * Boreeas goes and does that
#2022 [18:28] <Morrolan> Oh, if you don't know off the top of your head I'll just google. :)
#2023 [18:28] <Morrolan> instantxkilla1 - That sounds like that one mod overwrites files other mods overwrite too. Nothing you can do, these mods are incompatible then.
#2024 [18:28] <Kendecil> Yeah, get a job as a volunteer, and just google everything XD
#2025 [18:29] <Morrolan> You can get a fresh install by starting the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual though, instantxkilla1.
#2026 [18:29] <Kendecil> (Thinking just googling everything) Guys, can I work as a volunteer?
#2027 [18:29] <Morrolan> Feel free to hang out in here, and help people when you can.
#2028 [18:29] <Kendecil> Okay.
#2029 [18:30] <xales> Kendecil: Most of the problems people have really can be solved just by Googling. ._.
#2030 [18:30] <Morrolan> The longer you'll stay in here the more you'll learn yourself, alone by seeing the various solutions people have to offer.
#2031 [18:30] <Kendecil> Summer, way not help people?
#2032 [18:30] <Boreeas> Looks like plaintext
#2033 [18:30] <Kendecil> Exactly, so i can also help myself.
#2034 [18:30] <Boreeas> Erm, not plaintext, encrypted
#2035 [18:30] <xales> Boreeas: It's not a hash or anything, it's just stored in some weird format or something.
#2036 [18:30] <xales> Boreeas: Probably just XOR.
#2037 [18:31] <xales> Wug's launcher has a "show password" button
#2038 [18:31] <Boreeas> The cipher is PBEWithMD5AndDES
#2039 [18:31] <Kendecil> Decrypt this: babaa884670643e8ba4af582f3dbb5d8
#2040 [18:32] <Boreeas> That looks more like a hash and not encrypted text, Kendecil
#2041 [18:32] <Kendecil> Close enough
#2042 [18:32] <instantxkilla1> one of the mods was a shelf that as like a chest and it had alot of items in it and those are now gone what should i do with that?
#2043 [18:33] <Morrolan> Chances are that, once you reinstall the mod, those items are back.
#2044 [18:33] <Kendecil> My friend modded minecraft. He nuked New Mexico
#2045 [18:33] <Kendecil> Just go to the site, and reinstall it.
#2046 [18:34] <instantxkilla1> ok
#2047 [18:34] <Morrolan> Boreeas - http://wiki.vg/Lastlogin
#2048 [18:34] <Kendecil> How do you get a trusted user (+) sign?
#2049 [18:34] <Kendecil> Just help a lot?
#2050 [18:34] <Morrolan> By being in here for a while, showing that you are reliable, helpful, polite.
#2051 [18:34] <Kendecil> Okay, nice to know :P
#2052 [18:34] <Boreeas> Morrolan: I win :)
#2053 [18:35] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Hehe. :D
#2054 [18:35] <instantxkilla1> do i have to clean out my minecraft.jar file or just reinstall the mods
#2055 [18:35] <Morrolan> It really only is a way to make sure that your average user can't retrieve his friend's password I guess.
#2056 [18:35] <Kendecil> Well, see if theres anything wrong with the MC file.
#2057 [18:35] <Morrolan> instantxkilla1 - I'd get a clean .jar file first (force an update), then reinstall the mods.
#2058 [18:35] <xales> instantxkilla1: You should be able to just reinstall the mods, unless they have components which need to go in the jar, in which case you should start from scratch.
#2059 [18:36] <instantxkilla1> ok how do i do that
#2060 [18:36] <Kendecil> They may be gone and lost, so try reinstalling.
#2061 [18:36] <mib_mibmib> zomg
#2062 [18:36] <xales> instantxkilla1: The same way you did it the first time.
#2063 [18:36] <Morrolan> ?? forceupdate
#2064 [18:36] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2065 [18:36] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2066 [18:37] <Morrolan> ^ This'll get you a fresh .jar file
#2067 [18:37] <Morrolan> As for the reinstall, like xales said, the same way you did it the first time. :)
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#2069 [18:37] <Kendecil> Than transfer the mods to the new MC file and it should work.
#2070 [18:40] <Kendecil> Idk what to eat...
#2071 [18:40] <xales> Kendecil: A cow.
#2072 [18:40] <Morrolan> Toast Hawaii
#2073 [18:40] <Kendecil> I ate a cow for lunch.
#2074 [18:40] <Morrolan> It's fast and easy to make, and tasty. :)
#2075 [18:40] <Kendecil> XD
#2076 [18:40] <instantxkilla1> i tried reinstalling one of the mods and it didnt work
#2077 [18:41] <Kendecil> But really, I'm starving.
#2078 [18:41] <Morrolan> Fried egg?
#2079 [18:41] <Kendecil> To breakfeasty
#2080 [18:41] <xales> instantxkilla1: Then you must have not done it correctly.
#2081 [18:41] <Morrolan> breakfasty? Heh, cultural differences ftw.
#2082 [18:42] <Kendecil> Did you transfer the mod to the MC file?
#2083 [18:42] <Kendecil> Yeah XD
#2084 [18:43] <Kendecil> If your a trusted use , are you a volunteer?
#2085 [18:43] <Kendecil> user*
#2086 [18:43] <xales> Kendecil: Everyone here, with the exception of a very small number, are volunteers.
#2087 [18:43] <Morrolan> Whether voiced, opped or hated.
#2088 [18:43] <Kendecil> Mmmmk
#2089 [18:43] <Kendecil> Okay :P
#2090 [18:43] <Morrolan> (One of us even made it to network op)
#2091 [18:44] <Kendecil> :o
#2092 [18:44] <Morrolan> xales - Speaking of which, what brought you to this network, initially?
#2093 [18:44] <Kendecil> So if your a trusted user (+) your not a volunteer?
#2094 [18:44] <xales> Morrolan: Uhh, probably lembas.
#2095 [18:45] <Morrolan> Kendecil - Being a volunteer has nothing to do with what "rank" you've got in this channel.
#2096 [18:45] <Morrolan> A volunteer is someone who helps without expecting payment.
#2097 [18:45] <Kendecil> Okay
#2098 [18:45] <Morrolan> Whereas voice and op are a way to manage the channel.
#2099 [18:45] <Kendecil> My prepaid debit card.
#2100 [18:45] <Kendecil> Forgot to activate it.
#2101 [18:46] <Morrolan> xales - Ah, do you know him from somewhere online, or from RL? (If you don't mind me asking)
#2102 [18:46] <xales> Kendecil: You could try using it again once it's activated...probably won't work, but nonetheless...
#2103 [18:46] <xales> Morrolan: Just from the good ol' series of tubes.
#2104 [18:46] <Morrolan> Okay :)
#2105 [18:46] <Kendecil> But on MC it said I couldn't use it for 24 hours.
#2106 [18:47] <xales> Kendecil: Well, then wait 24 hours and try it again. :p
#2107 [18:47] <Kendecil> :P
#2108 [18:47] <Morrolan> That's one of Moneybooker's limitations, isn't it?
#2109 [18:47] <Kendecil> Gonna ctivate it be right back
#2110 [18:47] <Morrolan> Might be able to PayPal.
#2111 [18:47] <Morrolan> to use it through PayPal*
#2112 [18:47] <Kendecil> Thats what i'll do
#2113 [18:48] <xales> Morrolan: PayPal marks it as international but I've never tried to use an activated card with MoneyBookers, so they may process in the states and just transfer the money or something.
#2114 [18:48] <xales> So...if PayPal rejects it, could try MoneyBookers again...
#2115 [18:48] <Morrolan> The 24 hour limitation I meant, not the one with international purchases.
#2116 [18:48] <xales> Yeah, I know. :p
#2117 [18:48] <Morrolan> Okay. ;)
#2118 [18:48] <Kendecil> There
#2119 [18:49] <Morrolan> Now, I'll go back with playing around with Qt a bit, spent too much time in here, socializing. D:
#2120 [18:49] <Morrolan> go back to*
#2121 [18:49] <Kendecil> It's asking me if I have a foreign address
#2122 [18:49] <xales> Kendecil: What is?
#2123 [18:49] <Kendecil> The site
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#2125 [18:49] <Kendecil> To activate it
#2126 [18:50] <xales> Uhh, then say no.
#2127 [18:50] <Kendecil> k
#2128 [18:53] <Kendecil> Activated
#2129 [18:53] <Kendecil> Now I need to eat something
#2130 [18:53] <Kendecil> Right back
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#2132 [18:55] <Kendecil> Back
#2133 [18:55] <Kendecil> Cheez its
#2134 [18:57] <Kendecil> I'm pm-ing myself
#2135 [18:57] <Kendecil> I'm pm-ing myself
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#2137 [19:01] <Kendecil> I'm gonna go, no ones talking
#2138 [19:01] <Kendecil> Bye
#2139 [19:01] <Kendecil> Bye
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#2144 [19:05] <JackInTheBox> Hey my minecraft when i try to log in says i cant connect to minecraft. I think maybe thats becuase i have to wait for the next update. is that true that i have to wait?
#2145 [19:06] <Kendecil> Check your internet connection
#2146 [19:06] <JackInTheBox> it works
#2147 [19:06] <Kendecil> Is there a little warning sign on it?
#2148 [19:06] <JackInTheBox> no
#2149 [19:06] <xales> JackInTheBox: Do you know what version of Java you have installed?
#2150 [19:06] <JackInTheBox> java 6. java 7 is buggy
#2151 [19:07] <Kendecil> Hold on, let me give you the latest version of java.
#2152 [19:07] <JackInTheBox> no dont java 7 doesnt work it glitches up my minecraft
#2153 [19:07] <xales> JackInTheBox: What do you see when you go here? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2154 [19:07] <Kendecil> Hmm
#2155 [19:08] <JackInTheBox> Bad login
#2156 [19:08] <xales> JackInTheBox: Do you have any sort of antimalware/firewall software installed?
#2157 [19:08] <JackInTheBox> no
#2158 [19:08] <xales> Are you sure?
#2159 [19:08] <Kendecil> It could be because you may be bammed
#2160 [19:09] <Kendecil> banned*
#2161 [19:09] <xales> Kendecil: Nope. :p
#2162 [19:09] <Kendecil> He left
#2163 [19:09] <xales> Yep.
#2164 [19:09] <Kendecil> :P
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#2166 [19:09] <Kendecil> Bad Login, maybe wrong username
#2167 [19:09] <xales> Kendecil: If you're not sure, please don't try to help, it generally just gets in the way.
#2168 [19:09] <Kendecil> Okay, sorry.
#2169 [19:10] <Kendecil> I guess we have google for a reason..
#2170 [19:10] <xales> Kendecil: :p
#2171 [19:10] <Kendecil> :P
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#2173 [19:10] <Kendecil> I want MC to come out on the nook soon
#2174 [19:10] <xales> That's never going to happen.
#2175 [19:10] <xales> Most likely, anyway.
#2176 [19:10] <Kendecil> Crap.
#2177 [19:11] <Eddie> My Minecraft works fine on Java 7
#2178 [19:11] <xales> I mean, you could root it and install it from Google Play, if it would even run, not sure if it would.
#2179 [19:11] <Eddie> Is there a way to reproduce a glitch?
#2180 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't the nook only have 512 megs of RAM?
#2181 [19:11] <Kendecil> Weird/
#2182 [19:11] <Kendecil> No.
#2183 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> And not even a decent video card to speak of?
#2184 [19:12] <Kendecil> 512 megs is extremly small.
#2185 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> https://nookdeveloper.barnesandnoble.com/product/nook-color-specs.html
#2186 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> RAM 512MB
#2187 [19:12] <Kendecil> Minecraft is about that big
#2188 [19:12] * GreyVulpine laughs
#2188 [19:12] <Kendecil> ?
#2189 [19:13] <instantxkilla1> im pretty sure i did. i went to the minecraft.jar and opened winrar and moved the files to the minecraft.jar
#2190 [19:13] <xales> instantxkilla1: Well, if it's not working, then it would appear that you didn't.
#2191 [19:14] <instantxkilla1> where would it appear
#2192 [19:15] <Kendecil> Wow, I didn't know the RAM was that much of crap.
#2193 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Kendecil - Alright, let's do a small math experiment, yes? How big is a chunk in minecraft?
#2194 [19:15] <Kendecil> My computer is only a 3GB hardrive
#2195 [19:15] <xales> instantxkilla1: ._.
#2196 [19:15] <Kendecil> Not big
#2197 [19:15] <instantxkilla1> what
#2198 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> 16 blocks, by 16 blocks, by the height of the map, 256, right?
#2199 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> That's what..
#2200 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> !calc 16*16*256
#2201 [19:16] <GreyBot> Answer: 65536
#2202 [19:16] <xales> instantxkilla1: We can't help you install mods. If you want to use them, you'll have to deal with it on your own.
#2203 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> 65 thousand blocks, yes?
#2204 [19:16] <instantxkilla1> ok
#2205 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Say, for the sake of experiment, one block is one byte (it isn't)
#2206 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, one kilobyte. hah
#2207 [19:17] <Kendecil> I want the xbox edition to have creative mode/
#2208 [19:17] <Kendecil> .*
#2209 [19:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: Block position is at least 4 floats, so 4*4 bytes, :p
#2210 [19:17] <xales> which is still a fair about for that calculation
#2211 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Gah!
#2212 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2213 [19:17] <xales> a fair bit*
#2214 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Kendecil - At any one time, a radius of 9 chunks is loaded into memory at one time
#2215 [19:18] <xales> !calc 16*65535
#2216 [19:18] <GreyBot> Answer: 1048560
#2217 [19:18] <xales> !calc 16*65535*4/1024
#2218 [19:18] <GreyBot> Answer: 4095.9375
#2219 [19:18] <Kendecil> Mk
#2220 [19:18] <xales> oh 4GB
#2221 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> In multiplayer, a radius of 10 chunks is loaded into memory at any one time
#2222 [19:18] <xales> I...think
#2223 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> 4MB
#2224 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> but that's one chunk
#2225 [19:18] <xales> that makes more sense. :p
#2226 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> and aren't chunks taller now than they once were?
#2227 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2228 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> thus making 256 a small figure
#2229 [19:18] <Kendecil> My friend has nukes in his MC
#2230 [19:19] <Kendecil> Be right back I need to go to the bathroon
#2231 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, 512 megs on a Nook isn't going to cut it running Minecraft.
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#2233 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Not to mention the..POWERVR SGX530 GPU in that thing.
#2234 [19:21] <Kendecil> Back
#2235 [19:21] <xales> Front
#2236 [19:22] <Kendecil> I'm gonna buy bigger RAM soon...
#2237 [19:22] <Eddie> bigger RAM
#2238 [19:22] <Eddie> The size of the moon.
#2239 [19:22] <Kendecil> Larger RAM
#2240 [19:22] <Kendecil> That would be awesome
#2241 [19:22] <xales> Kendecil: http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
#2242 [19:24] <malachi01> if i buy minecraft and download it on one computer can i also download it from my account for another computer
#2243 [19:24] <Kendecil> Yes.
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#2245 [19:24] <Kendecil> Because your account already has Premium.
#2246 [19:24] <SinZ> xales: lol <3
#2247 [19:25] <howesge> hey guys ive got a problem when i try and go on any server
#2248 [19:25] <Kendecil> It won't load?
#2249 [19:25] <howesge> ill write out the message
#2250 [19:25] <howesge> yes
#2251 [19:25] <howesge> it wont load
#2252 [19:25] <Kendecil> How long have you been waiting?
#2253 [19:25] <howesge> when i go on a server, i in game wil fall through the floor and nothing will load
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#2255 [19:25] <howesge> 3 days
#2256 [19:26] <xales> howesge: Have you tried more than once server?
#2257 [19:26] <Elystus> howesge: Try a diffrent server.
#2258 [19:26] <howesge> yes i have tried a different server, i stated previously it is any server
#2259 [19:26] <Kendecil> Yes, it could be just the server.
#2260 [19:26] <howesge> my internet connection is fine, as you can see
#2261 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you have zonealarm?
#2262 [19:27] <howesge> no?
#2263 [19:27] <Kendecil> I'm almost positive, try restarting your computer.
#2264 [19:27] <howesge> i have turned off all firewalls
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#2266 [19:27] <howesge> ive restarted mulitple times
#2267 [19:27] <Kendecil> Or restart minecraft.
#2268 [19:27] <howesge> look its been 3 days
#2269 [19:27] <Kendecil> Oh okay.
#2270 [19:27] <Kendecil> Brb
#2271 [19:27] <howesge> and ive been consistantly getting this message
#2272 [19:27] <xales> howesge: What message?
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#2274 [19:28] <instantxkilla1> i had a mod that was a shelf and i put some items on it and then i downloaded another mod and it erased all the mods i had in my game and when it erased the shelf mod it also erased the stuff i had on it such as iron ore and restone and diamond. how do i get the items back
#2275 [19:29] <howesge> 1 sec
#2276 [19:29] <howesge> internal exception: java.netsocketexception: software caused connection abort: recv failed
#2277 [19:29] <howesge> it has been different in the past though
#2278 [19:29] <xales> instantxkilla1: Install the mod again, and you may get them back. If not, then there's not much you can do. That's what you get for using mods.
#2279 [19:29] <xales> howesge: Please go here and click "START" and wait for it to complete. Let us know when it's finished. http://web100.rit.edu:7123/
#2280 [19:30] <Kendecil> back
#2281 [19:30] <instantxkilla1> its not like it was a mod that gave me any valueable items it just stored stuff
#2282 [19:31] <xales> instantxkilla1: Again. If you reinstall the mod, you may get it back.
#2283 [19:31] <xales> Regardless, we cannot help you with anything related to mods, other than removing them to get back to the normal game.
#2284 [19:31] <instantxkilla1> i reinstalled the mod but it didnt give anything back
#2285 [19:31] <xales> Well, that's too bad then.
#2286 [19:31] <xales> You're welcome to spawn yourself the items, or whatever else you want to do.
#2287 [19:32] <instantxkilla1> how
#2288 [19:33] <xales> There are a number of different ways. You could use an inventory editor, or a mod such as Not Enough Items, or whatever else.
#2289 [19:33] <xales> Regardless, that's beyond the scope of the channel.
#2290 [19:33] <Morrolan> I'd recommend InvEdit if you're on Windows, saves you the trouble of installing yet another mod.
#2291 [19:33] <Kendecil> I'm gonna go
#2292 [19:34] <Kendecil> Seeya tomorrow.
#2293 [19:34] <Morrolan> Bye
#2294 [19:34] <instantxkilla1> how do u do the inventory editor
#2295 [19:34] <xales> instantxkilla1: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+invedit
#2296 [19:34] <Morrolan> Download a tool like InvEdit, the rest is pretty straightforward.
#2297 [19:34] <howesge> Xales, its not letting my copy and paste you the information, is it just the upload and download speed that youre interested in?
#2298 [19:35] <howesge> me*
#2299 [19:35] <xales> howesge: For the most part, yes
#2300 [19:37] <howesge> conected to "web100:rit.edu" using ipv4 address
#2301 [19:37] <howesge> checking for middleboxes .. done
#2302 [19:37] <howesge> checking firewalls .. done
#2303 [19:38] <xales> howesge: If you click "Statistics" it should let you copy it, paste it on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#2304 [19:38] <howesge> running 10 sec outbound test 1.00mb
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#2306 [19:39] <howesge> still not letting me copy it?1 has a copy button and everytihimh
#2307 [19:39] <howesge> everything*
#2308 [19:41] <howesge> its seriously not letting me copy
#2309 [19:41] <howesge> ive clicked stattistics
#2310 [19:42] <howesge> has a copy button and everything which isnt clickable
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#2312 [19:44] <howesge> ...xales?
#2313 [19:44] <xales> howesge: Oh, sorry.
#2314 [19:44] <xales> howesge: Uhh, no idea. Can you just tell me the two speeds it has listed? Also, are you using wifi?
#2315 [19:44] <howesge> im using wifi yes
#2316 [19:45] <howesge> outbound 1.00
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#2318 [19:45] <howesge> mb
#2319 [19:45] <howesge> inbound 4.58 mb
#2320 [19:48] <howesge> xales
#2321 [19:49] <xales> howesge: Try connecting the computer directly and see if it works any better with wireless disabled.
#2322 [19:50] <howesge> ive been able to connect with wifi in the past, nothings changed since then
#2323 [19:50] <howesge> apart from this problem .. should have thought that sentence ut
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#2325 [19:51] <xales> howesge: Just see if it works any better connected directly
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#2327 [19:51] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
#2328 [19:51] <DavidNeedsHelp> umm
#2329 [19:51] <DavidNeedsHelp> not working...
#2330 [19:51] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
#2331 [19:52] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check not working?
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#2333 [19:52] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
#2334 [19:52] <xales> !check google.com:80
#2335 [19:52] <DavidNeedsHelp> !check kingcraft1.no-ip.org
#2336 [19:53] <howesge> no xales its not working
#2337 [19:53] <xales> howesge: Have you disabled wireless to make sure it's using the wired connection?
#2338 [19:53] <howesge> yes
#2339 [19:54] <xales> howesge: Are you sure? You seem to have remained connected here, which likely would not happen if the connection was interrupted, even briefly.
#2340 [19:54] <howesge> ive connected on a different computer
#2341 [19:54] <howesge> to the mains
#2342 [19:55] <xales> howesge: And you've tried multiple servers, yes?
#2343 [19:55] <howesge> yes
#2344 [19:55] <xales> Has it always done this?
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#2346 [19:55] <howesge> no not at all
#2347 [19:55] <howesge> 3 days ago i can pinpoint it specifically
#2348 [19:56] <howesge> it just stopped connecting
#2349 [19:56] <xales> Has anything changed on your computer, network, et cetera, even if it seems unrelated, since that time?
#2350 [19:57] <howesge> no i had logged on previously the night before and everything was fine
#2351 [19:57] <howesge> went on uicky in the morning and this had started happening
#2352 [19:58] <howesge> thought nothing of it that it might be internet connection, so left it for the day
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#2354 [19:58] <xales> howesge: And, if I'm understanding correctly, you've tried using more than once computer?
#2355 [19:58] <howesge> came back in the evening and the problem persisted, so i statred the usual turning the router on and off, restarted the comp
#2356 [19:58] <xales> one computer*
#2357 [19:58] <howesge> yes i have
#2358 [19:59] <xales> hmm, one second
#2359 [19:59] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#2359 [20:02] <howesge> i googled the problem and one person said that he'd managed to filter his 25565, frankly i dont know how to access ports let alone filter them though, i do know theyre for servers but i thought it was only for your own server
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#2362 [20:03] <xales> howesge: This doesn't have anything to do with port forwarding, unless you have something that's doing QoS limiting on the port or something (you would know if you did)
#2363 [20:03] <howesge> yeah i'd definately know if i did haha
#2364 [20:04] <howesge> agh sorry im gonna go and try again tomorrow, ive just come home from work and im losing the will, sorry to take up your time
#2365 [20:04] <xales> It's okay. Hopefully someone else with more ideas will be around next time you drop by.
#2366 [20:04] <howesge> no worries, thanks for your time
#2367 [20:11] <instantxkilla1> how do i play minecraft
#2368 [20:11] <xales> instantxkilla1: Download it from minecraft.net and run it
#2369 [20:12] <instantxkilla1> i already did how do i use a pickaxe
#2370 [20:12] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#2371 [20:13] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#2372 [20:13] <Soo> This is probably a redundant problem, but my minecraft doesn't update.
#2373 [20:13] <xales> Soo: What do you mean by "doesn't update"?
#2374 [20:13] <Elystus> Soo: Disable your anti-virus, then try.
#2375 [20:16] <Soo> I don't know how to do that. I'm on an administrator account, but I can't terminate AVG.
#2376 [20:16] <xales> Soo: If you're using AVG, that would be the problem.
#2377 [20:16] <xales> First of all, AVG is a piece of crap and you may want to consider just uninstalling it entirely.
#2378 [20:16] <xales> However
#2379 [20:17] <xales> If you just open AVG's control panel thing from the tray icon
#2380 [20:17] <xales> and disable the "LinkScanner Module"
#2381 [20:17] <xales> Minecraft should work fine
#2382 [20:19] <Soo> Do you suggest another anti-virus program, if AVG is bad?
#2383 [20:20] <xales> Soo: Well, antivirus/antimalware programs don't prevent problems, they merely fix them after the fact. So if you aren't downloading and running anything you find on the Internet, generally, you are fine. What I suggest doing is downloading the free version of MalwareBytes AntiMalware, which only does passive scans when you ask it to, rather than actively scanning everything you have
#2384 [20:20] <xales> running.
#2385 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> Soo: I'd recommend MSE
#2386 [20:20] <xales> Or that.
#2387 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> it's free and a lot less bloaty than AVG has become
#2388 [20:21] <Elystus> *cough* Microsoft Security essentials
#2389 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: gesundheit. What did you think MSE stood for?
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#2391 [20:21] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: Didn't see it lol >_>
#2392 [20:24] <Soo_> Thank you for your help, have a good day.
#2393 [20:25] <xales> You are quite welcome; that will be $20.
#2394 [20:25] <xales> (Not really).
#2395 [20:26] <Rikairchy> xales: want an lol?
#2396 [20:26] <xales> Rikairchy: huh?
#2397 [20:26] <Soo_> Haha, if I could give you money, I would.
#2398 [20:26] <Rikairchy> pastebin.com/D0PUPrn3
#2399 [20:27] <xales> lol
#2400 [20:27] <Soo_> Enjoy your days.
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#2403 [20:39] <bud> i'm trying to download the minecraft game, it gets downloaded on to my desktop but when i try to login and play, i get a black screen, totally blank
#2404 [20:39] <bud> can you help me?
#2405 [20:40] <xales> bud: This is generally because you need to update your graphics card drivers.
#2406 [20:40] <xales> Do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
#2407 [20:40] <bud> no, can you tell me how to figure that out? thanks!
#2408 [20:40] <xales> bud: Sure. Follow these instructions:
#2409 [20:41] <xales> ??> bud win/dxdiag
#2410 [20:41] <VoxelHead> bud: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2411 [20:41] <VoxelHead> bud: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2414 [20:45] <bud> voxelhead: i got the link, i'm not sure where to paste it, the IRC channel?
#2415 [20:46] <Elystus> yes
#2416 [20:46] <xales> bud: Paste it here.
#2417 [20:46] <Kzack> hey, i need help with my minecraft
#2418 [20:46] <bud> http://pastebin.com/rQqcnVZx
#2419 [20:46] <xales> Kzack: Yes, we can infer that based on your presence here. If you are more specific in what you need help with, then perhaps we can provide the assistance you seek.
#2420 [20:47] <xales> bud: One moment, please
#2421 [20:47] <bud> sure
#2422 [20:47] <Kzack> ah duh. Well, i was able to start minecraft fine the tiem i ran it in IE,
#2423 [20:47] <SinZ> ATI Radeon HD 5570, isnt that the amd catalyst drivers?
#2424 [20:48] <Kzack> it downloaded and everything. But then i accendtly downloaded a malicous firefox, so i did a restore. I downloaded the correct firefox
#2425 [20:48] <xales> bud: Please download the latest driver for your video card, which you can find here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#2426 [20:48] <xales> Then try running Minecraft again.
#2427 [20:48] <Kzack> but when i ran minecraft it would get past the log in, and then just a black box
#2428 [20:49] <SinZ> Kzack: have you messed around with mods?
#2429 [20:49] <xales> Kzack: It sounds like you have the same problem as bud; you need to update your graphics card driver.
#2430 [20:49] <Kzack> nope
#2431 [20:49] <Kzack> which driver is that? i have a nvida GEforce and an intel HD
#2432 [20:49] <SinZ> uhh
#2433 [20:49] <clarjon1> Kzack: That depends on which port your monitor is plugged into.
#2434 [20:50] <Kzack> laptop
#2435 [20:50] <clarjon1> oof
#2436 [20:50] <clarjon1> one of -those- nasty combo cards
#2437 [20:50] <xales> Kzack: Uhh, update both, particularly the NVIDIA driver.
#2438 [20:50] <Kzack> well i right clicked and check, it said it was up to date, but ill look at the website
#2439 [20:50] <SinZ> website is always right
#2440 [20:50] <xales> There should be a setting in the NVIDIA control panel to force the use of the NVIDIA card, either for the entire system or just Minecraft/Java.
#2441 [20:51] <xales> You'll need to do that.
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#2443 [20:54] <bbud96> hello I need help with purchasing minecraft, I have used different cards and I have money but each time it says it failed but once you click ok it says it succeed. It didnt send me transation id email and i cannot play. Please help
#2444 [20:54] <xales> bbud96: If it said it failed, then it failed. Purchasing Minecraft is an international transaction; you'll need to call your bank and make sure that international purchases are allowed.
#2445 [20:55] <bbud96> Ok ill get back to you about that thank you
#2446 [20:57] <Kzack> i really hope this driver thing works. last time i updated drivers i couldnt run my comptuer in anything but safe mode
#2447 [20:57] <bbud96> i checked and it is international. Is it just that because its in the UK it doesnt like to do transations in the USA or is it a glitch
#2448 [20:57] <bbud96> ?
#2449 [20:57] <xales> bbud96: Mojang is a company based in Sweden, so unless you are located in Sweden, it's an international transaction.
#2450 [20:57] <SinZ> Mojang is located in swedan
#2451 [20:57] <SinZ> sweden*
#2452 [20:57] <bbud96> Im sorry in another country
#2453 [20:58] <bbud96> I checked and the cards were both international
#2454 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> bbud96: What type of card are you wanting to use?
#2455 [20:58] <bbud96> First we tried american express and then visa
#2456 [20:58] <xales> bbud96: Credit card? Debit card? Gift card?
#2457 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> Are those gift cards that you can top up?
#2458 [20:59] <bbud96> credit
#2459 [20:59] <xales> bbud96: Did it give a reason that it failed?
#2460 [20:59] <bbud96> no just that it failed
#2461 [20:59] <bbud96> then when i click ok it sent me to a purchase successful screen
#2462 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> bbud96: You may need to contact your bank to find out why the transaction wasn't allowed. Some banks require you to authorize international transactions.
#2463 [21:00] <bbud96> but if they are already ok with international why would I have to
#2464 [21:00] <xales> bbud96: You would then need to find out why it was denied.
#2465 [21:01] <xales> If the transaction failed, it's because you incorrectly entered payment information, or it was denied by your bank.
#2466 [21:01] <bbud96> And how can I go about doing this?
#2467 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> bbud96: It can be a security measure to help prevent others from overseas from falsely using your card
#2468 [21:01] <xales> bbud96: You would call your bank and say you tried to purchase something with the card, and that it was denied.
#2469 [21:01] <bbud96> Ok thank you guys for the help.
#2470 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> bbud96: How? Call your bank.
#2471 [21:01] * xales will be back in ~25 minutes
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#2472 [21:03] <Kzack> im waiting for the update still, but i was able to make the nvidai card open minecraft, yet i still have the black box problem
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#2474 [21:03] <bbud96> Its sad that this is the closest thing to coustom support I can get from Mojang
#2475 [21:04] <SinZ> if they spent there time helping people, we wont get game updates <3
#2476 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> bbud96: The volunteers here do the best that they can do, to help
#2477 [21:05] <bbud96> See the problem with this calling my bank thing is its with my fathers cards and he has his mind set that its because Mojang didn't put in enough effort for the transation features and because of them being based i n another country.
#2478 [21:06] <bbud96> I know and this has been helpful
#2479 [21:06] <bbud96> It was a birthday gift and he his getting a bit flustered about it all and I don't want to push him anymore
#2480 [21:06] <Kzack> can someone sned me a comptuer that can already play minecraft? cuz this is alot of hassel after payign 27$....
#2481 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: Sorry, you'll have to buy a computer that can do the job, too.
#2482 [21:08] <bbud96> He is already upset that his anniversary plans are falling through. So I guess I can ask tomorrow hopefully. Thanks for the help though.
#2483 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: Am I understanding right, that you have a laptop with switchable graphics?
#2484 [21:08] <bbud96> Bye
#2485 [21:09] <Kzack> as far as i know i have a demon as a power core lol
#2486 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: There may be a solution for you, if that's the case
#2487 [21:09] <Kzack> let me hear it
#2488 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: Can we please get a dxdiag report from you
#2489 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> Kzack win/dxdiag
#2490 [21:10] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2491 [21:10] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2493 [21:12] <Kzack> http://pastebin.com/YvYsJNuy
#2494 [21:13] <vic> hello all..... java is crashing minecraft for some reason and I cant find a fix. Anyone know of a fix?
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#2498 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: Thanks. That laptop seems to have switchable graphics, so it's currently using the low powered intel one right now.
#2499 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> ??> Kzack gpu/discrete
#2500 [21:16] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (gpu/discrete) Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#2501 [21:16] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (gpu/discrete) Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#2502 [21:18] <Kzack> the only thing is, it worked just fine until i did a system restore to a point 2 days ago
#2503 [21:18] <Kzack> and the only thing i changed with that was getting rid of bitcomet
#2504 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: If only we could turn back time.
#2505 [21:19] <Kzack> yeah really
#2506 [21:24] <Kzack> its so funny, they are telling me how to update my nvidia grpahics card and not my intel one.... on the HP site...
#2507 [21:24] <bud> hi, i downloaded the catalyst software suite but the black screen problem persists, please help?
#2508 [21:26] <bud> anyone?
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#2510 [21:26] <Me> anyone can help me?
#2511 [21:26] <Guest27556> damn
#2512 [21:26] <Guest27556> anyone can help me?
#2513 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest27556 ask
#2514 [21:27] <VoxelHead> Guest27556: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2515 [21:27] <VoxelHead> Guest27556: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2516 [21:28] <Guest27556> how do i spped me minecraft?
#2517 [21:28] <Guest27556> speed my*
#2518 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> Here is an optimisation guide http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
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#2520 [21:34] <jacksonkz> my minecraft icon on my desktop is a .exe file so every time i wan to play, i have to run it
#2521 [21:34] <jacksonkz> is this normal?
#2522 [21:35] <bud> hello can anyone help me?!
#2523 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that is normal. You can move the exe file somewhere else (such as \Program Files\Minecraft\minecraft.exe and create a shortcut to place in the start menu
#2524 [21:35] <Kzack> yes, and at this point, be thankful you can actyulay play the game lol
#2525 [21:36] <jacksonkz> ok, just thought it was weird that i had to run it each time i want to play
#2526 [21:36] <jacksonkz> thanks!
#2527 [21:36] <bud> HELLO ANYONE THERE THAT CAN HELP
#2528 [21:37] <jacksonkz> also i have an old xp operating system from 2003, would it work better if it was newer?
#2529 [21:39] <Kzack> how the flipping hell do i update this dman intel driver!
#2530 [21:39] <bud> i just need someone to help find the right thing to update and now im getting frutrated
#2531 [21:41] <oldtopman> ??> bud dont/shout
#2532 [21:41] <VoxelHead> bud: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#2533 [21:41] <bud> i know
#2534 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> ?? Kzack gpu/intel
#2535 [21:41] <Wug> Kzack: have you been to intels website
#2536 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> Kzack gpu/intel
#2537 [21:41] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2538 [21:42] <oldtopman> bud: Have you reinstalled minecraft?
#2539 [21:43] <bud> sorry that was my 11 year old that took over, yes i did replace it, should i delete the earlier download completely and try again, perhaps that might work?
#2540 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: The operating system is less important than the capabilities of the hardware. As a general rule though, anything that came out before 2008 is less capable than what there is today.
#2541 [21:43] <oldtopman> ??> bud win/reinst/bat
#2542 [21:43] <VoxelHead> bud: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2543 [21:43] <VoxelHead> bud: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2544 [21:44] <Wug> bud: has it ever worked before
#2545 [21:46] <bud> yes it did, yesterday, but i had not saved it, simply ran it each time i wanted to play it
#2546 [21:46] <bud> today i'm trying to do both, run or save, neither is working
#2547 [21:47] <bud> online and offline, both are not working :(
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#2549 [21:47] <Wug> try that .bat file
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#2551 [21:48] <Wug> aha
#2552 [21:48] <Wug> Kzack: id you havent found it yet
#2553 [21:48] <Wug> you're after this driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3231&DwnldID=20391&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2+Processors+with+Intel%C2%AE+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2554 [21:48] <Wug> if you got another one instead, try this one first
#2555 [21:49] <Guest27556> anyone can sugest a good pc?
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#2557 [21:58] <TimB> Hey guys. Just have to ask a quick question. I was told that you can get a virus playing minecraft online. I feel this is possible but improbable. Can you give me some facts as to why this is so I can proove this person totally wrong?
#2558 [21:58] <Elystus> Unless you are using a modifed launcher, this is impossible.
#2559 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> TimB: Viruses require an execution context in which to install themself. Multiplayer minecraft provided no execution context for such a thing to occur, so no viruses can be obtained that way.
#2560 [22:01] <Kzack> im currently tryoing to update my nvida card and downloading the intel card update
#2561 [22:02] <TimB> Thank you. I just didnt have the facts at my dispoal this will help very much.
#2562 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: If you want to use your nvidia card with Minecraft, you need to force your laptop to switch over to using the nVidia card. That can be done from your BIOS by telling the computer to always use the nVidia card when your power is plugged in.
#2563 [22:02] <Kzack> when does minecraft instal into your computer? and does that file still stay even after you do a system restore?
#2564 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: Otherwise, you'll have to try and use your Intel card instead, which isn't nearly as capable.
#2565 [22:02] <Kzack> and my laptop is a ASUS. Idk if it has a BOIS
#2566 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Oy vey - all computers have a BIOS.
#2567 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS
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#2569 [22:05] <Kzack> hmmm wikis are liek apps huh? "have a question? theres a wiki for that"
#2570 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> Sorry no, wiki's are not like apps at all. Wiki's are created and maintained by volunteer people from all over the world. Apps are individual programs that are created and sold commonly by one person to achieve a single task, for the profits of the developer and moreso for Apple.
#2571 [22:06] <skyboy> apps are bad mmm'kay?
#2572 [22:06] <skyboy> mostly because apple is bad.
#2573 [22:07] <Kzack> okay so how do i get to that BOIS thing?
#2574 [22:08] <Kzack> is it a bad idea to use the task manager to e?stop a graphics card updat
#2575 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: This channel is about providing help with minecraft. You may want to contact a computer technician if you aren't comfortable with more extensive work yourself.
#2576 [22:10] <skyboy> don't stop the update that way
#2577 [22:10] <skyboy> you could break things
#2578 [22:10] <Kzack> okay good thing i asked
#2579 [22:15] <Kzack> is it normal for the intel graphics update to make 3 or more seqence of loading dots?
#2580 [22:15] <Kzack> or does that mean its failing and restarting
#2581 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: I completely fail to understand anything about the situation that you mention
#2582 [22:16] <Kzack> for the intel driver update. Instead of a bar liek everyone else, they are using dots... and these dots dotn have a percentage value on it
#2583 [22:17] <Kzack> so im just wondering if anyone has recently updated thier intel driver, and if they culd tell me if my update is failing and restarting, or if thats just how it works
#2584 [22:19] <Kzack> oh you know what. I just have ALOT of versions lol. The one im downladong is 15. soemthing, and im at 8. this will take a while im guessing lol
#2585 [22:22] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: While he is downloading it, I redid one of the programs. Would you mind testing it. It does a lot more than just create a batch file now.
#2586 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: The programs that are used to install the drivers, are written by different people, who use different techniques to indicate the progress of the installation
#2587 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: sure thing
#2588 [22:23] <Kzack> wow, after all that waiting.. it tells me it failed
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#2590 [22:23] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Minecraft_memory.exe
#2591 [22:23] <Elystus> Also, delete all traces of the launcher
#2592 [22:23] <Elystus> I want to see if the downloading protion will work.
#2593 [22:23] <Elystus> portion*
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#2595 [22:31] * DiskDaemon must remember to create a new clone after removing the old one. Cue 10 minute wait...
#2595 [22:31] <Elystus> ?
#2596 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Standard rules of engagement - run test things in a test environment
#2597 [22:32] <Elystus> Ahh
#2598 [22:33] <Elystus> Don't download the launcher onto the virtual machine.
#2599 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> why not?
#2600 [22:33] <Elystus> My program will do it for you ;)
#2601 [22:34] <Elystus> if it doesn't detect it, it will download it
#2602 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> Is that if the launcher is not in the same folder, the same hard drive, or the same computer?
#2603 [22:35] <Elystus> It searches the downloads desktop and documents
#2604 [22:35] <Elystus> If it is not detected there, then it will ask if you would like to download it.
#2605 [22:37] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I am going to go work on the java_ipv4 fix. Once you have tested it, just ping me.
#2606 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> 36 minutes remaining - it'll be a in a while :)
#2607 [22:39] <Elystus> Maybe I can have this done by then. Alot of the code for this will be similar to the code in the one I jsut gave you.
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#2609 [22:44] <Kzack> well, turns out updating any of my drivers kill my computer
#2610 [22:44] <Kzack> i had to make a system restore. Question. Does minecraft save updates on a online vault? or are they saved in the computer?
#2611 [22:45] <Elystus> They are saved to the computer.
#2612 [22:45] <AmberK|Zzz> Elystus: java ipv4 fix?
#2613 [22:45] <Elystus> AmberK|Zzz: yesh
#2614 [22:45] <AmberK|Zzz> I have a few o.o
#2615 [22:45] <Elystus> AmberK|Zzz: Its a program in C++
#2616 [22:45] <AmberK|Zzz> which method are you attempting?
#2617 [22:45] <Elystus> >_>
#2618 [22:45] * AmberK|Zzz wrote one in java
#2618 [22:45] * Elystus smites AmberK
#2618 [22:45] <AmberK|Zzz> I hate C++'s class system :>
#2619 [22:45] * AmberK|Zzz runs off
#2619 [22:45] <skyboy> ?enable smites
#2620 [22:45] <AmberK|Zzz> ?smite Elystus
#2621 [22:45] * AmberK|Zzz wishes
#2621 [22:46] <Elystus> ;-;
#2622 [22:46] <AmberK|Zzz> \o/
#2623 [22:46] <skyboy> ah, right. wrong bot
#2624 [22:46] <Kzack> the straneg thing is, I searched my computer, and found 2 mincraft documents, but I was unable to delete them becouse they are "no longer there" even though i made a restore....
#2625 [22:46] <Elystus> AmberK|Zzz: Does your program check for the versions of java and install the correct versions if they are missing it?
#2626 [22:46] <Elystus> Also, does it download the launcher if it is not on the computer?
#2627 [22:46] <AmberK|Zzz> Elystus: uhm no. I didn't need that functionality as it was a personal fix
#2628 [22:46] <Elystus> :P
#2629 [22:47] <AmberK|Zzz> wait you're just making a downloader for the launcher?
#2630 [22:47] <AmberK|Zzz> z.z
#2631 [22:47] <AmberK|Zzz> and java
#2632 [22:47] <Elystus> no, thats part of it.
#2633 [22:47] <Elystus> It does the shortcut fix.
#2634 [22:47] <AmberK|Zzz> Mine uses a localized bat
#2635 [22:48] <Elystus> *cough* lame
#2636 [22:48] <AmberK|Zzz> same effect really
#2637 [22:48] <AmberK|Zzz> it's the exact same thnng >:o
#2638 [22:48] <Elystus> yea, but mines kewler...
#2639 [22:48] <skyboy> nwo you just need to compile it for mac and *nix, Elystus :P
#2640 [22:48] * AmberK|Zzz slaps Elystus
#2640 [22:48] * Elystus throws skyboy out the window
#2640 [22:48] <AmberK|Zzz> skyboy: I love you
#2641 [22:48] <AmberK|Zzz> Infinite women for skyboy
#2642 [22:48] * AmberK|Zzz snaps fingers
#2642 [22:48] <skyboy> woo!
#2643 [22:48] <Elystus> ;-;
#2644 [22:49] <skyboy> also, ftr, defenestrate is the verb you were looking for, Elystus
#2645 [22:49] <Elystus> Lol
#2646 [22:50] <AmberK|Zzz> but yeah C++ is like "I asked for one copy, not four hundred"
#2647 [22:50] <Elystus> >_>
#2648 [22:50] <AmberK|Zzz> xD
#2649 [22:50] <Elystus> C++ is a bit annoying
#2650 [22:50] <Elystus> I will admit.
#2651 [22:50] <skyboy> C++ has too much undefined behavior
#2652 [22:50] <Kzack> Okay, so here my situation. My java is upto date. (or so ts telling me) I also updated my flash just incase. YEt when i try to launch in broswer, i get a white box, and out of broswer a black box
#2653 [22:50] <AmberK|Zzz> flash...
#2654 [22:51] <skyboy> we already told you how to fix the problem, didn't we?
#2655 [22:51] <AmberK|Zzz> Install your browser's version for java
#2656 [22:51] <Kzack> updating my nvidia driver breaks my computer, and i cant update my intel
#2657 [22:52] <Kzack> and i dotn have a flipping clue how to use a BOIS to change priotirty to my nvidia card or whatever i need to do with it
#2658 [22:52] <AmberK|Zzz> Elystus: you'd appreciate this: http://i.imgur.com/nPpmr.png
#2659 [22:52] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack have you tried playing it downloaded?
#2660 [22:52] <skyboy> yeah, we told you that the solution is to change the behavior of your GPU swapping via the BIOS
#2661 [22:52] <Kzack> oxyes, thats where i get the black bpx
#2662 [22:52] <skyboy> ah, and you just said that
#2663 [22:52] <Elystus> AmberK|Zzz: thats amazing
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#2665 [22:52] <skyboy> what? in your BIOS?
#2666 [22:53] <Kzack> skyboy. you are spaking ALEIN to me man
#2667 [22:53] <AmberK|Zzz> you're speaking alien to us....
#2668 [22:53] <AmberK|Zzz> what are you saying lol
#2669 [22:53] * Elystus kicks AmberK|Zzz
#2669 [22:53] <AmberK|Zzz> BIOs is pretty unrelated
#2670 [22:53] <Kzack> im saying i cant play this game i spent 27 doller on
#2671 [22:53] * AmberK|Zzz explodes Elystus
#2671 [22:53] <skyboy> he has a discrete GPU, amber
#2672 [22:53] <AmberK|Zzz> ah
#2673 [22:54] <AmberK|Zzz> and lemme guess updating nvidia driver is a nono for some reason >_>?
#2674 [22:54] <Kzack> well it better stop being so dman descrete then
#2675 [22:54] <AmberK|Zzz> define breaking computer.
#2676 [22:54] <Kzack> yes, it breaks my computer to where i cant get past my "welcome" page
#2677 [22:54] <Kzack> it freezes there
#2678 [22:54] <AmberK|Zzz> that shouldn't be your gpu unless it's not rendering something properly ._. ....
#2679 [22:54] <Kzack> so i have to start it in safe mode and do a restore
#2680 [22:55] <skyboy> that's not the GPU if you can start in safemode
#2681 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> ^
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#2683 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> well, no wait
#2684 [22:55] <Kzack> GREAT so we decided its NOT my gpu... WHAT THE HELL IS IT THEN?!?! lol
#2685 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> skyboy some computer have an integrated system
#2686 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> so it could be
#2687 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> because sometimes safe mode defaults to that integrated system
#2688 [22:55] <AmberK|Zzz> anywho
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#2690 [22:56] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack how long did it stay in that welcome screen?
#2691 [22:56] <AmberK|Zzz> honest answer please
#2692 [22:56] <Kzack> it froze, liek always. it would stay all night
#2693 [22:56] <AmberK|Zzz> hmmm okay.
#2694 [22:56] <skyboy> you haven't tried updating the GPU until today
#2695 [22:56] <AmberK|Zzz> >_>
#2696 [22:57] <Kzack> yes i have, i have updated my nvidia driver 5 times now, all with the same effect
#2697 [22:57] <AmberK|Zzz> 5 times isn't a measurement of time though
#2698 [22:57] <Elystus> ^
#2699 [22:57] <AmberK|Zzz> honest answers help me reach solution quicker for both our benefits
#2700 [22:57] <skyboy> how long were you waiting on the welcome screen?
#2701 [22:57] <skyboy> 15 seconds? 25 minutes?
#2702 [22:57] <Kzack> an hour the first time i did it
#2703 [22:58] <AmberK|Zzz> was that the longest?
#2704 [22:58] <Kzack> i couldnt even move my mouse (my mosue shows as a loading wheel and that loading wheel stopped turning and never came back)
#2705 [22:58] <AmberK|Zzz> hour is pushing it a little, 2 hours would be the max I'd say
#2706 [22:58] <skyboy> you left at 22:35, you came back at 22:54
#2707 [22:58] <Kzack> right now, i am feeling trolled
#2708 [22:58] <AmberK|Zzz> how so
#2709 [22:58] <Kzack> NOT TODAY
#2710 [22:58] <AmberK|Zzz> there are three different people trying to help you
#2711 [22:59] <AmberK|Zzz> hardly trolling tbh
#2712 [22:59] <Kzack> okay i have tried to update drivers before in the past. A year ago
#2713 [22:59] <AmberK|Zzz> anyhow
#2714 [22:59] <Kzack> and thats when i waited the hour
#2715 [22:59] <AmberK|Zzz> >_>
#2716 [22:59] <skyboy> same computer?
#2717 [22:59] <Kzack> so i know when my loaidng wheel stopps turning, it froze and will never recover
#2718 [22:59] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack you wouldn't happen to have the install disc for your system would you?
#2719 [22:59] <Kzack> no i dotn amber, and yes sjy same computer
#2720 [22:59] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack just because the grphical unit stops working doesn't mean the system does
#2721 [22:59] <Kzack> sky*
#2722 [23:00] <AmberK|Zzz> anywhoo
#2723 [23:00] <AmberK|Zzz> see if you can make one, and try to use the repair function on it after updating your GPU
#2724 [23:00] <Kzack> well what point is the system if the graphical (the thign to see) is frozen and i cant do anything
#2725 [23:00] <AmberK|Zzz> it will detach startup programs
#2726 [23:00] <AmberK|Zzz> so reinstalling antivirus goes good with that
#2727 [23:00] <Kzack> speakign alein
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#2729 [23:00] <pwd75> hi
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#2731 [23:00] <Elystus> Hello :)
#2732 [23:01] <skyboy> alien.
#2733 [23:01] <AmberK|Zzz> the graphical interface may freeze if the system deems it not needed atm for the larger process
#2734 [23:01] <AmberK|Zzz> orr if it's the one sequencing an event
#2735 [23:01] <Kzack> well if it takes an hour...
#2736 [23:01] <AmberK|Zzz> but regardless
#2737 [23:01] <pwd75> i for got my passwor and when i tell mine craft.net to send email it doesnt
#2738 [23:01] <pwd75> password*
#2739 [23:01] <pwd75> forgot
#2740 [23:01] <Kzack> make sure you have a "." not a "," for your .com
#2741 [23:01] <Elystus> pwd75: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#2742 [23:01] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack: Call your computer manufacturer, and ask for an install disk
#2743 [23:02] <Kzack> ... okay, so what your telling me is theres no way for me to play this dman game today?
#2744 [23:02] <AmberK|Zzz> well
#2745 [23:02] <AmberK|Zzz> it'd be kinda... alien
#2746 [23:03] <Kzack> translate to englis then
#2747 [23:03] <Kzack> english*
#2748 [23:03] <skyboy> Kzack: were you trying to install NVIDIA drivers for the GeForce 310M?
#2749 [23:03] <Kzack> yes
#2750 [23:03] <skyboy> are you certain?
#2751 [23:03] <AmberK|Zzz> i.e. I'm not getting nearly enough information because communication is a bit difficult for particular reasons
#2752 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: There is if you can appropriately update your Intel driver, or instruct your laptop to use the nVidia card instead. Some of these things get in to technical areas that aren't easy to help people with though
#2753 [23:03] <Kzack> i am absoultly positive
#2754 [23:04] <Kzack> okay, so try your best to help me force nvida to take over
#2755 [23:04] <Kzack> i am runnign windows 7 64 bit if that helps anyone
#2756 [23:04] <AmberK|Zzz> wait this is new info to me >_>
#2757 [23:04] <Kzack> all on a ASUS laptop
#2758 [23:05] <skyboy> it doesn't, it means changing a BIOS setting
#2759 [23:05] <AmberK|Zzz> Kzack I'm going to leave you in DiskDaemon and skyboy's capable hands
#2760 [23:05] <Kzack> kk amber ty
#2761 [23:05] <skyboy> and you can't really get instruction from us while in the BIOS
#2762 [23:05] <Kzack> where is the bois and i will take notes
#2763 [23:06] <AmberK|Zzz> F2 on startup
#2764 [23:06] <AmberK|Zzz> <_< >_>
#2765 [23:06] <skyboy> or another key
#2766 [23:06] <skyboy> there's no standard key for opening the BIOS, so everyone does it their own way
#2767 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> your computer, when turned on, will usually say 'Press F1' for setup
#2768 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> or some other key, often F1, F10, F12, Del, Insert, or Escape.
#2769 [23:07] <Kzack> i never see that lol
#2770 [23:07] <Kzack> just says "windows starting"
#2771 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> It's generally on screen for perhaps a second or three at most.
#2772 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> it'd be before that.
#2773 [23:07] <skyboy> you have to pay attention, it's only there for less than 5 seconds
#2774 [23:07] <skyboy> and that's also your window for opening it
#2775 [23:07] <Kzack> okay, so find the start up
#2776 [23:07] <Kzack> one sec
#2777 [23:08] <Kzack> let me log in here on my other comp. brb
#2778 [23:08] <skyboy> we should give him a disclaimer that we're not responsible if he breaks his system doing this
#2779 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The .exe program when It's run says that 356mb is recommended for vanilla minecraft - shouldn't that be 384mb instead? Also, there should be a warning that assigning too much memory is can result in worse Minecraft performance (due to the garbage collection not happening until much much later then needed)
#2780 [23:09] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Ahh yes, I forgot to add that.
#2781 [23:09] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Did everything else work though?
#2782 [23:10] <skyboy> you don't really need to include the garbage collection part. it's a bit technical
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#2785 [23:10] <Elystus> I am just going to say assiging too much memory can result in worse minecraft performance.
#2786 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: When the launcher is not found, the user is prompted to enter 1 or 2, but is left at a "press any key to continue" area. The user should be asked instead to press Y or N, and should also be given the opportunity to press such keys :)
#2787 [23:10] <Kzack> UPDATE: i logged into my other computer, and it was able to download the mindcraft in broswer
#2788 [23:11] <chiefelmo> does anyone know of a server plugin that allows for completely customizable skins for npcs without the requirement of SpoutCraft
#2789 [23:11] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I got lazy
#2790 [23:11] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Were you able to press 1 and then enter?
#2791 [23:11] <Kzack> where as where this computer it logs in says "update complete" right away and black screens
#2792 [23:11] <skyboy> ??>> chiefelmo mods
#2793 [23:11] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: actually, since Minecraft allocates 1GB of RAM for itself, a third of that for the entire system is rather anemic.
#2794 [23:11] <Kzack> even thought i restored my comptuer 2 times, and shoudl have the data downloaded at all
#2795 [23:12] <Kzack> shoudlnt*
#2796 [23:12] <skyboy> system restore does not modify files
#2797 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: When I typed in "what?" for the amount of memory to assign, this is what was in the batch file: javaw -Xmx20272286m -Xms20272286m -jar minecraft.exe
#2798 [23:12] <skyboy> hah, wow
#2799 [23:12] <chiefelmo> #bukkit
#2800 [23:12] <Kzack> well i looke din my system for minecraft uodates, and i tired deleting them, it said they didnt exist
#2801 [23:12] <Elystus> Did you choose those numbers Disk?
#2802 [23:13] <skyboy> it was lying
#2803 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Nope, I typed "what?"
#2804 [23:13] <skyboy> but we can't help you with system restore induced problems
#2805 [23:13] <Kzack> apeerently. where are they so i can permatly delte them?
#2806 [23:13] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Um, can you get me a screenshot of what the program said after you finished?
#2807 [23:14] <skyboy> Elystus: you're not restricting the input to characters >= '0' and <= '9'
#2808 [23:15] <Elystus> I probably should >_>
#2809 [23:15] <skyboy> you can use getch() or cin.get()
#2810 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> Or the amount of memory to what is avaialble or reasonable in the computer system
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#2812 [23:15] <skyboy> you should also restrict it to no more than 100% of RAM and 25% of the page file
#2813 [23:16] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: My plan was to get the ammount of memory and allow the max to be 2/3 of the amount of memory. With other restrictions in place of course.
#2814 [23:16] <raggedstone> when i open minecraft the mojang appers then the screen gos black and stay that way. what should i do?
#2815 [23:16] <skyboy> ??> raggedstone win/dxdiag
#2816 [23:16] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2817 [23:16] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2818 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It seems that when a non-numeric entry is made, the request to download the launcher is shown, but answering it is automatically skipped over
#2819 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The other problem is that the batch file doesn't work, because java or javaw aren't normally accessible from the command prompt.
#2820 [23:18] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: can you pastebin the results of the program. Also, delete the minecraft launcher before doing so.
#2821 [23:18] <raggedstone> what is the win key?
#2822 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The launcher was deleted beforehand. I'll pastebin the results
#2823 [23:18] <skyboy> ??> raggedstone win/key
#2824 [23:18] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2825 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key/image
#2826 [23:20] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#2827 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: pastie.org/4327972 - the only entrie that I made for those results were to type "dunno" then Enter.
#2828 [23:22] <Kzack> UPDATE: i opened and reclosed my mindcraft on my other comptuer and it worked fine. And that comptuer is 3 years older than this one im suing right now (th eone im having problems with)
#2829 [23:23] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: okay, so I need to make it so only numbers can be typed... at line 13, did your press 1?
#2830 [23:23] <raggedstone> what is trc?
#2831 [23:23] <raggedstone> irc
#2832 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Nope, it just skipped on past that by itself. When a proper number is entered though, it would be better for people to type Y or N instead of 1 or 2
#2833 [23:23] <skyboy> ?? irc
#2834 [23:23] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2835 [23:23] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2836 [23:24] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Yea, I couldn't decide what to do. I will make it Y or N.
#2837 [23:24] <skyboy> huh. i expected that to say what IRC is
#2838 [23:24] <Kzack> so, my only inferation is that the system restorement screwed up my patch data somehow. si thereanyway to force minecraft to re download a patch? or delete my other oens so it does it automaticly?
#2839 [23:24] <skyboy> raggedstone: this is IRC.
#2840 [23:24] <skyboy> you're using IRC.
#2841 [23:24] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: can you go through and put 1 in for that line?
#2842 [23:24] <Elystus> i just want to make sure that the download function works correctly.
#2843 [23:24] <raggedstone> so i past it here?
#2844 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2845 [23:25] <Kzack> so, my only inferation is that the system restorement screwed up my patch data somehow. si thereanyway to force minecraft to re download a patch? or delete my other oens so it does it automaticly?
#2846 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Yes, it was downloaded - but the batch file doesn't work still because javaw cannot be found from the command prompt.
#2847 [23:26] <raggedstone> this is the site.http://pastebin.com/R5kkPt07
#2848 [23:26] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Do you have java installed since it is a fresh install of windows?
#2849 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Yes, I have Java installed on the test rig, and Minecraft works from both the launcher and the browser
#2850 [23:27] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: The paths are not set for java I am guessing?
#2851 [23:27] <skyboy> i guess he didn't want help after all
#2852 [23:28] <Kzack> I do, so help me
#2853 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Installing Java does not make java or javaw available from the command prompt. I think that it's just the JDK that does that, or if the environment paths are edited to point to an appropriate location.
#2854 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: A normal installation doesn't set the paths either.
#2855 [23:28] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: What should I put for the batch file then?
#2856 [23:28] <skyboy> Kzack: first, i wasn't talking to or about you; second, i can not help you with problems caused by system restore.
#2857 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Your solution for that is to check the normal locations for the jre6 or the jre7 folder, and use whichever one is appropriate in the batch file.
#2858 [23:29] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: okay, so i will have to manually define the paths in the batch file?
#2859 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Use %programfiles% instead of "program files" because foreign language installations don't have it in the latter one
#2860 [23:29] <Kzack> well then could you POSSIBLY point me in the direction to where i can find out a solution?
#2861 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I'll put together a sample path for you to use
#2862 [23:30] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I am just making sure that I know what you are saying before I go off to do it.
#2863 [23:30] <skyboy> Elystus: you can use this to create a short cut (.lnk) file on the desktop: http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/11467/How-to-create-short-cuts-link-files
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#2865 [23:31] <Elystus> skyboy: Not what we are looking for... I already made that portion of the code for the java file.
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#2867 [23:31] <skyboy> much cleaner than a .bat, and you can give it minecraft's icon
#2868 [23:32] <Snorg> hey guys, I'm running a minecrafter server on unbuntu 12.04 but I can't get either a vanilla or tekkit client to run
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#2870 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: That's a good refinement, once he's got the fundamentals in place
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#2874 [23:33] <Snorg> i think I'm having problems with java - if anyone knows anything about minecraft dying in a grey or black box after logging - plz let me know
#2875 [23:33] <skyboy> are you using OpenJDK?
#2876 [23:34] <Elystus> skyboy: I was being stupid. I get what you were saying earlier. I just redid the code so taht it will create a shortcut.
#2877 [23:34] <Snorg> i do java -version and have 1.7.0_05
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#2879 [23:34] <Snorg> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b05) and Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b05)
#2880 [23:35] <skyboy> ah, not OpenJDK
#2881 [23:35] <Snorg> yea
#2882 [23:35] <Snorg> i had open java but it didn't work then either
#2883 [23:35] <skyboy> well, check your drivers is all i have for you
#2884 [23:35] <Snorg> should i put it back on?
#2885 [23:35] <skyboy> no
#2886 [23:35] <Snorg> =\
#2887 [23:35] <Snorg> ok
#2888 [23:35] <skyboy> OpenJDK doesn't really work with minecraft
#2889 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> Snorg java/1.7
#2890 [23:35] <VoxelHead> Snorg: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2891 [23:36] <Snorg> seems odd that the server would run fine but the client wont
#2892 [23:36] <Snorg> O.O
#2893 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> The server is more amenable to other JREs
#2894 [23:36] <Snorg> should i get 1.6 then?
#2895 [23:36] <skyboy> it's probably your drivers
#2896 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> I've run the server with OpenJDK for a long time, but the Sun^WOracle JRE is the only supported JRE
#2897 [23:36] <skyboy> the server doesn't display graphics, does it?
#2898 [23:36] <Snorg> nop
#2899 [23:36] <Snorg> e
#2900 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> The server is console-only
#2901 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> well
#2902 [23:37] <Kzack> Okay, i found the folder ".minecraft" but it wont let me delete it becouse it says its runnign in soem other program. Any workaround for that?
#2903 [23:37] <skyboy> then it's your graphics drivers
#2904 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> there is a 'GUI', but it's text boxen and such
#2905 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> Kzack: if you are currently browsing the folder, or anyhting in the folder, or have minecraft running, you will get that error
#2906 [23:37] <Snorg> hmm i thought i installed my fglrx drivers right
#2907 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> AMD GPU. There's your problem right there. (:
#2908 [23:37] <Snorg> lol
#2909 [23:38] <Kzack> thank you dope for relaizing that you CAN help me and not ignore me and say you cant help me becouse its a problem caused by system restore
#2910 [23:38] <Snorg> i can't get glxinfo to work so there is probably something wrong
#2911 [23:38] <skyboy> ?? linux/gpu/amd
#2912 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> (seriously, I love AMD's hardware, CPUs, et al., but their driver team needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.)
#2913 [23:38] <skyboy> ?? linux/amd
#2914 [23:38] <Kzack> your fricken dope dope
#2915 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can, Kzack (:
#2916 [23:38] <skyboy> you were telling me the system said the files didn't exist, Kzack.
#2917 [23:39] <Snorg> the amd gpu team does make good cards - they just don't do a good job with linux =\
#2918 [23:39] <Snorg> the amd gpu team does make good cards - they just don't do a good job with linux =\
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#2920 [23:39] <Kzack> your a good man dope. keep it up
#2921 [23:39] <Kzack> skyboy: yes i did say that, but that seems strange now doesnt it. So it existed soemwhere, where you coudl have helped me find it. But its okay man no worries
#2922 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: When java is installed in jre7, this is the command line that should be used: "%programfiles%\Java\jre7\bin\javaw" -Xmx... -Xms... -jar minecraft.exe
#2923 [23:40] <Kzack> im just very blunt, dotn take what i say as a meaning to offend
#2924 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The doublequotes there are important too, due to the space in the folder name
#2925 [23:40] <skyboy> i assumed, that since you were trying to delete it and getting an error, that you already knew where it was.
#2926 [23:40] <Snorg> i guess i should just use the jocky thing to install my amd drivers
#2927 [23:40] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Thats what I thought you meant, okay. Already working on it.
#2928 [23:40] <Kzack> and now i can play mindcraft! WHOPOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!
#2929 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> Kzack: That'll be $8. (:
#2930 [23:40] <Kzack> lol
#2931 [23:41] <skyboy> well, pay the man
#2932 [23:41] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
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#2934 [23:41] <Kzack> is there any admins on here that can put that down as a FAQ workaround?
#2935 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Of course, check if the folder exists first. If 6 or 7 doesn't exist, a suitable error message can be shown, becaus ethe focus of the your memory program is just the memory, and not fixing everything :)
#2936 [23:42] <alburns> i try to login to my minecraft account on my new desktop but it says cant connect to minecraft.net it has been doing this for a few daays now
#2937 [23:42] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Sounds good, will check in after I have done it.
#2938 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> Kzack: Chances are, there probably is a FAQ for whatever you just did. I just stepped in partway through and saw that last problem you were having.
#2939 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> alburns specs
#2940 [23:43] <VoxelHead> alburns: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2941 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Don't bother checking for the (x86) variant, because that's a wrong installation that shouldn't be supported too
#2942 [23:44] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I will make it display a diffrent error message for such occasion.
#2943 [23:44] <Kzack> dopeghoti: there isnt, it was the first place i checked lol
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#2945 [23:46] <Kzack> is there anyway i can submit the problem and walk around?
#2946 [23:46] <Jamie8u> hello i was wondering if your downloadable server creater for windows is free and what the connection runs on if it is free? (sorry if i misspelled anything)
#2947 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> Kzack: certainly. Check your private query window
#2948 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> Jamie8u: The Minecraft server software is indeed free.
#2949 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jamie8u smp/serversetup
#2950 [23:47] <VoxelHead> Jamie8u: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2951 [23:47] <VoxelHead> Jamie8u: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2952 [23:48] <Jamie8u> ok thank you very much i be sure to check out the link
#2953 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2954 [23:49] <Kzack> my gampleay is alttilte chppy. is there anyway i can fix that?
#2955 [23:50] <Snorg> buy an i7
#2956 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#2957 [23:50] <DopeGhoti> You'll need a modern GPU, fairly fast CPU, and at least 2GB of RAM
#2958 [23:52] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I am just going to scrap it and restart in the morning. :/
#2959 [23:52] <Elystus> Would be more work to edit the code as is than to restart.
#2960 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Righto. At least the testing here has been useful to help point the way :)
#2961 [23:54] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Yea, I was stupid and forgot about a few vital things.
#2962 [23:55] <Elystus> At least I figured out a few things today.
#2963 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: That's fine, I'll try to find more valid issues with the next one too :)
#2964 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> heh
#2965 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> User input subroutines are the bane of all aspiring programmers.
#2966 [23:56] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I pretty much know how exactly I am going to do everything. So it shouldn't take me hours to code like today.
#2967 [23:56] <Elystus> C++ is a mare ;-;
#2968 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> If C++ is a mare, PHP is bullsh[bleep]t. Oh, wait.
#2969 [23:56] <Elystus> PHP is fun..
#2970 [23:56] <Kzack> hmmm i cant even break sand with my hands.... help? lol
#2971 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kzack dontclick
#2972 [23:56] <VoxelHead> Kzack: (dontclick) You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#2973 [23:57] <Kzack> dude i love you, you shoudl get payed for this
#2974 [23:57] <DopeGhoti> I happily accept donations to the DopeGhoti Needs Pizza fund.
#2975 [23:58] <skyboy> i'll accept donations to the skyboy fund
#2976 [23:58] <skyboy> no fancy name like DopeGhoti's
#2977 [23:59] <Elystus> I'll accept foundations to the fund.
#2978 [23:59] <Elystus> No fancy names like these other people.
#2979 [23:59] <DopeGhoti> I accept donatations without attachment to any fund whatsoever, also.
#2980 [23:59] <Kzack> okay, anyone have the link to the tortial page lol?