#1 [00:00] * McGhoubs [McGhoubs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2 [00:03] <VvoodVvolf> well thats going to have to do for ids
#3 [00:03] <VvoodVvolf> managed to get all working
#4 [00:03] <VvoodVvolf> part for 1 small mods
#5 [00:03] <VvoodVvolf> which doesn' do much anyway
#6 [00:03] <tryy3> :P
#7 [00:03] <tryy3> easiest to change for the smallest mods first
#8 [00:03] <VvoodVvolf> just a custom bucket filler from pipes
#9 [00:04] <tryy3> k cool
#10 [00:05] <Zizzaria> Errr. so i try to log in and then minecraft just crashes :c gives me an error message.
#11 [00:05] <Zizzaria> no mods, force updated it, still does.
#12 [00:06] <VvoodVvolf> have fun laters
#13 [00:06] <tryy3> i know why i had errors with MCP in the server part in 1.2.5 :S it was cuz i hd 1.3.1 server files and the rest 1.2.5 lol
#14 [00:06] <tryy3> i know why i had errors with MCP in the server part in 1.2.5 :S it was cuz i hd 1.3.1 server files and the rest 1.2.5 lol
#15 [00:06] * VvoodVvolf [VvoodVvolf@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#16 [00:06] <Zizzaria> it doesn't even get to that stage, :P. i played day of the update, my friends server was already updated.
#17 [00:06] <tryy3> Zizzaria post the error message on pastebin
#18 [00:07] <Zizzaria> pastebin >_>
#19 [00:07] <tryy3> or something similiar
#20 [00:07] * NoobFromWiki [NoobFromWiki@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#21 [00:08] <Zizzaria> http://pastebin.com/YvPSSQas
#22 [00:08] <Zizzaria> i think,
#23 [00:08] <Zizzaria> i did that right.
#24 [00:10] <NoobFromWiki> anyone want to branch outside the minecraft box and help me with some technichal computer issues?
#25 [00:10] * |Kiichan| [|Kiichan|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#26 [00:11] <NoobFromWiki> or spelling
#27 [00:11] <Zizzaria> im not the most tech savy anymore. haha.
#28 [00:11] * sevenstorms [sevenstorms@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#29 [00:12] <tryy3> looks like its something with lwjgl (could be wrong) and i dont know a shit about mac more then that i want one but they are overpriced (in my opinion) so i cant help you more then say 'try with, backup your files, delete the whole .minecraft folder, delete the minecraft.jar (the file you start minecraft with) and redownload minecraft completly' if that dont work, than i dont know what
#30 [00:12] <tryy3> could work
#31 [00:12] <NoobFromWiki> I'm about to reformat my computer, got my back up computer running but it won't log into IRC. what program do I need on it?
#32 [00:12] <Zizzaria> Yeah, i was thinking of doing that
#33 [00:12] <Zizzaria> Oh,
#34 [00:13] <Zizzaria> if you're running Mozilla..
#35 [00:13] <Zizzaria> you can download Chatzilla extention.
#36 [00:13] <Zizzaria> otherwise mIRC
#37 [00:13] <sevenstorms> I use Hydral
#38 [00:13] <Zizzaria> or that.
#39 [00:13] <tryy3> i use mIRC :D
#40 [00:13] <sevenstorms> I did for a long time :)
#41 [00:13] <Zizzaria> but chatzilla is fluxxed with some skins.
#42 [00:13] <NoobFromWiki> k thanks.
#43 [00:14] <tryy3> otherwise you could just search 'IRC client' on google
#44 [00:14] <tryy3> i think theres a few could be wrong and it being many .D
#45 [00:14] <tryy3> :D
#46 [00:14] <sevenstorms> yeah there are tons of them
#47 [00:15] <sevenstorms> xchat-2 is free but super barebones
#48 [00:15] <tryy3> lol
#49 [00:15] <NoobFromWiki> Besides my personal files and drivers for hardware, any advice on anything else to put on my external drive before I format?
#50 [00:16] * Aaron [Aaron@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#51 [00:16] <Aaron> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error This error has been saved to /Users/aaronmickle/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-08-04_00.14.07-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT bde44623 -------- Generated 8/
#52 [00:16] <NoobFromWiki> like how can i get service pack
#53 [00:16] <tryy3> aaron - pastebin please
#54 [00:17] <Zizzaria> Oh Aaron.
#55 [00:17] <Zizzaria> You and me,
#56 [00:17] <Zizzaria> same boat here
#57 [00:17] <Zizzaria> http://pastebin.com/YvPSSQas <--- same as that?
#58 [00:17] <Aaron> each time i open my chat it crashes
#59 [00:17] <Zizzaria> oh no >_>
#60 [00:17] <tryy3> Aaron www.pastebin.com
#61 [00:18] <Zizzaria> But mac problems.
#62 [00:19] <sevenstorms> I would just back up the stuff you can't replace or don't feel like downloading wiki
#63 [00:20] <sevenstorms> pics, videos of ur b-day party, those 35 gigs of random crap you got from 4chan, that kinda stuff
#64 [00:20] <sevenstorms> and I'm not sure what you mean by service pack
#65 [00:21] <sevenstorms> if you mean service packs for windows .. they should install from windows update automatically
#66 [00:21] <Aaron> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error This error has been saved to /Users/aaronmickle/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-08-04_00.14.07-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT bde44623 -------- Generated 8/
#67 [00:22] <Wug> Aaron: if it wasnt a good idea to paste it the first time
#68 [00:22] * Devin [Devin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#69 [00:22] <Wug> it wont be the next time either
#70 [00:22] <Aaron> i went to the page you didn't tell me what to do
#71 [00:22] <tryy3> Zizzaria you could try update opengl? as the error includes opengl :D
#72 [00:22] <Zizzaria> Dude reaaaaad it.
#73 [00:22] <Zizzaria> opengl >_>
#74 [00:22] <tryy3> :P
#75 [00:22] <Zizzaria> i just ran a software update.
#76 [00:23] <Zizzaria> it was only Safari and. idk. something nominal.
#77 [00:23] <tryy3> check minecraft forum if anyone posted that sort of thing already? :D
#78 [00:23] <Wug> Aaron: it lists a file in the crash report. find that file and copy it to pastebin.
#79 [00:25] * gerald|offline [gerald|offline@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#80 [00:25] * Pepper[Away] [Pepper[Away]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#81 [00:26] <Aaron> i ran a software update. there wasn't anythig
#82 [00:27] * [1]sevenstorms [[1]sevenstorms@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#83 [00:31] <sevenstorms> anyone running 1.3.1 with mods on linux?
#84 [00:33] <sevenstorms> take that as a no
#85 [00:33] <tryy3> dont got linux on my lappy
#86 [00:34] <sevenstorms> I just installed mint 13 on mine tonight .. minecraft runs fine on it .. until I install a mod
#87 [00:34] <sevenstorms> tried REI's minimap and too many items .. same issue .. the minecraft.jar wont launch if you delete the meta-inf folder
#88 [00:35] <sevenstorms> if you don't delete the folder .. you get a black screen just like in windows
#89 [00:35] * mroads4 [mroads4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#90 [00:35] <mroads4> hello
#91 [00:35] <sevenstorms> hello
#92 [00:36] <mroads4> can u help me with minecraft?
#93 [00:36] <sevenstorms> what kind of problem are you having with it?
#94 [00:37] <mroads4> i cant update to 1.3 it says access denied
#95 [00:37] <mroads4> and appdata roaming
#96 [00:38] <Arle> can you run the launcher as admin?
#97 [00:38] * Sigma [Sigma@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#98 [00:39] <mroads4> i cant login and update but i can stay on 1.2.4
#99 [00:39] <sevenstorms> could also just delete the .minecraft folder and run the .exe from the website again
#100 [00:39] <tryy3> wtf, 1.3.1 have change the option guis -.-
#101 [00:39] <tryy3> now i haft to re learn them
#102 [00:40] * Devin [Devin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#103 [00:40] <sevenstorms> I misread that and thought you said we could change the GUI now .. I was like really?!?!
#104 [00:40] <sevenstorms> I got excited over nothing lol
#105 [00:41] <mroads4> thanks guys its workin now :D
#106 [00:41] <tryy3> it works to change the GUI?
#107 [00:41] <tryy3> it just to make a fork of minecraft :D
#108 [00:42] <tryy3> and then change the code a bit
#109 [00:42] * GBlock [GBlock@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#110 [00:42] <sevenstorms> I dunno if it does or not .. I just thought thats what you said
#111 [00:43] <tryy3> oh :D
#112 [00:44] <tryy3> o.O Snooper setting
#113 [00:48] * Rick_ [Rick_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#114 [00:48] * gerald|offline [gerald|offline@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#115 [00:48] <Rick_> Does anyone know why minecraft is crashing whenever i try to open the chat?
#116 [00:49] <slowfi> I'll dig a fairly long(about 60) tunnel or stairway and both single- and multi-player will just fill it back in behind me. strange bug
#117 [00:51] <Rick_> anyone?
#118 [00:51] <GBlock> Not I.
#119 [00:52] <GBlock> You might list off your versions of Minecraft, OS, Java etc... for good measure though.
#120 [00:52] <Rick_> if it helps I am running minecraft 1.3.1 on Mac OS 10.8
#121 [00:53] <sevenstorms> lol I was just looking at your forum post I think
#122 [00:53] <Rick_> running java 14.3.0
#123 [00:53] <sevenstorms> I guess your post won't help me help you
#124 [00:54] <Rick_> what else can I provide to help
#125 [00:55] <sevenstorms> I don't know how to disect the error reports :(
#126 [00:55] <Rick_> I found out about it trying to play on the MineZ servers
#127 [00:56] <tryy3> Rick_ a error log would be nice :D paste it on pastebin.com
#128 [00:56] <Rick_> in order to spawn in you need to type the /minez spawn command
#129 [00:58] <Rick_> after i copy it in what version do you need
#130 [00:59] * Pepper[Away] [Pepper[Away]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#131 [01:01] <Rick_> http://pastebin.com/DybABa5F is this what you need?
#132 [01:02] <tryy3> let me see
#133 [01:04] <tryy3> sry thats a mac computer, dont know anything about it and iam still learning java, wait until someone that knows more java then me answers :D
#134 [01:06] <Rick_> awesome....
#135 [01:08] <sevenstorms> don't feel bad rick .. nobody knows much about the OS I'm using atm either
#136 [01:08] <sevenstorms> and you are at an advantage .. way more mac users than linux users :)
#137 [01:08] <Wug> Rick_: you could try a different version of lwjgl
#138 [01:09] <Wug> sevenstorms: leave meta-inf but delete the contents
#139 [01:09] <Wug> try different things
#140 [01:09] <sevenstorms> yeah that was my thinking too
#141 [01:09] <sevenstorms> then I remembered wine :P
#142 [01:09] <tryy3> the error talks about opengl too, try update that might work, java can be a bitch sometime
#143 [01:10] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#144 [01:11] * Cookies [Cookies@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#145 [01:12] * jlkkljh [jlkkljh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#146 [01:12] <jlkkljh> how do i use mc nostalgia?
#147 [01:12] <jlkkljh> mcnostalgia*
#148 [01:13] <jlkkljh> hello??????????/
#149 [01:14] <Arle> jlkkljh, google it?
#150 [01:14] <tryy3> you read the thread?
#151 [01:15] <jlkkljh> i know but do i choose beta1.2.5? or which ver?
#152 [01:15] <jlkkljh> i know how to
#153 [01:15] <Arle> whatever you want to downgrade to.
#154 [01:16] <jlkkljh> mc 1.2.5
#155 [01:16] <jlkkljh> the latest before 1.3.1
#156 [01:16] <tryy3> press the number 1.2.5 is on? scroll up and down to find it
#157 [01:16] <jlkkljh> but it dosent have <that i can tell>1.2.5
#158 [01:17] <tryy3> gonna download and check
#159 [01:17] <Rick_> downloaded lwjgl again. seems to have fixed the problem
#160 [01:18] <jlkkljh> or do i have the right thread mmaybe?
#161 [01:18] <jlkkljh> maybe*
#162 [01:19] <tryy3> whats the latest+
#163 [01:19] <tryy3> that you can see
#164 [01:19] * fysics [fysics@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#165 [01:19] <jlkkljh> http://pastie.org/4387885
#166 [01:19] <jlkkljh> thread i found
#167 [01:20] <tryy3> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-131/
#168 [01:20] * Burton_Monster [Burton_Monster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#169 [01:21] <tryy3> and 1.2.5 number is 95
#170 [01:21] <Burton_Monster> Hey my account wont let me login and it says too many failed logins?
#171 [01:21] <tryy3> *correction* 91
#172 [01:21] <tryy3> Burton_Monster probly miss type or similiar
#173 [01:21] <Burton_Monster> No too many failed logins I even reset the password
#174 [01:22] <tryy3> wait a while for it to reset then try again with the reseted password
#175 [01:22] <Burton_Monster> I tried logging in to my other account and it says the same?
#176 [01:22] <jlkkljh> ill try this maybe and see if it is the one i want
#177 [01:22] <tryy3> wait a while for it to reset then try again with the reseted password
#178 [01:22] <jlkkljh> or if i understand
#179 [01:22] <Burton_Monster> How long do you think?
#180 [01:22] <tryy3> not sure
#181 [01:23] <Burton_Monster> and I can't login to the minecraft.net site says unknown password or username..
#182 [01:23] <tryy3> when you try to many times with wrong password it 'bans' you from logging in for a while, many sites got that function
#183 [01:23] <sevenstorms> there is always the "I forgot my password" link
#184 [01:23] <tryy3> most likely wrong password or wrong username then
#185 [01:24] <Burton_Monster> Burton_Monster
#186 [01:24] <Burton_Monster> and NewbTube
#187 [01:24] <tryy3> is it that good to give out password?
#188 [01:24] <Burton_Monster> I didnt
#189 [01:24] <tryy3> oh
#190 [01:24] <tryy3> good :D
#191 [01:24] <Burton_Monster> Who in the right mind would do that
#192 [01:25] <sevenstorms> lol
#193 [01:25] <tryy3> idiots?
#194 [01:25] <xizuo123> hihihi
#195 [01:25] <tryy3> why you wrote the names then?
#196 [01:25] <Burton_Monster> thats my users if the admins cn oanythng
#197 [01:25] <Burton_Monster> can do anything
#198 [01:25] <tryy3> ah
#199 [01:27] <tryy3> is there a recipe for music discs? :S
#200 [01:28] <Arle> Yep. Creeper + skeleton arrow.
#201 [01:28] <tryy3> -.-
#202 [01:28] <tryy3> i take that as a no?
#203 [01:28] <Arle> yeah, there isn't one.
#204 [01:29] <tryy3> good :D
#205 [01:29] <tryy3> more code for me
#206 [01:32] <tryy3> hmm... what would a recipe for a disc look like if it were gonna be as realistic as possible (can only use exisiting items)
#207 [01:33] * frogaincia [frogaincia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#208 [01:34] <Arle> four iron ingots?
#209 [01:34] <tryy3> and dye in middle awesome :D
#210 [01:34] <Arle> yeah :)
#211 [01:35] <jlkkljh> thx all
#212 [01:36] <tryy3> np
#213 [01:36] * hdon_ [hdon_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#214 [01:38] <Wug> !check uberminecraft.com
#215 [01:38] <Wug> !check mc.lost-servers.com
#216 [01:40] <frogaincia> anyone figured out what causes this or a fix? (crash report) http://mibpaste.com/kvt61d
#217 [01:41] * [1]sevenstorms [[1]sevenstorms@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#218 [01:44] * Elystus [Elystus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#219 [02:02] * D4nkers [D4nkers@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#220 [02:02] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#221 [02:09] <frogaincia> also, i've only had the problem on one server and not on single-player, but it's not happening to anyone else on that server. i'm at a loss.
#222 [02:10] <Wug> frogaincia: does it happen every time you login
#223 [02:10] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#224 [02:12] <frogaincia> i'll last anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple minutes
#225 [02:12] <frogaincia> and only once i've connected to that specific server
#226 [02:12] <frogaincia> but only i'm having the problem, which points at it *not* being server side
#227 [02:16] * steven [steven@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#228 [02:23] * donuts42 [donuts42@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#229 [02:24] <donuts42> Hello
#230 [02:24] <donuts42> I have an issue with installing mods in 1.3.1
#231 [02:24] <frogaincia> is the mod for 1.3.1?
#232 [02:24] <donuts42> yes
#233 [02:24] <donuts42> the issue is whenever i extract the files from the minecraft.jar
#234 [02:24] <frogaincia> damn
#235 [02:25] <donuts42> it's something with the aux.class file
#236 [02:25] <donuts42> because apparently
#237 [02:25] <Smanly> ??> donuts42 mods
#238 [02:25] <VoxelHead> donuts42: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#239 [02:25] <VoxelHead> donuts42: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#240 [02:25] <donuts42> OKAY
#241 [02:25] <donuts42> jeez
#242 [02:25] <Smanly> Wat
#243 [02:25] <donuts42> it's not like I haven't been able to before
#244 [02:25] <frogaincia> calm yoself, guessing its a bot
#245 [02:25] <donuts42> I have had no trouble before
#246 [02:26] <donuts42> and it's an issue before I even drop the class files in
#247 [02:26] <Wug> donuts42: you're not supposed to extract the jar
#248 [02:26] <Smanly> I dont think that was the entire error, frogaincia.
#249 [02:26] <Wug> go reread the directions
#250 [02:27] <donuts42> That's what I do every time
#251 [02:27] <Wug> vox is a bot, yes
#252 [02:27] <donuts42> I've installed mods fine for previous versions
#253 [02:27] <Wug> then what are you doing extracting the jar
#254 [02:27] <Smanly> Lol
#255 [02:27] <donuts42> creating a folder named minecraft.jar
#256 [02:27] <donuts42> that has all of the files
#257 [02:27] <donuts42> then i just drop the other class files into said folder
#258 [02:27] <donuts42> and delete meta-inf
#259 [02:28] <Smanly> donuts42: you dont extract the jar
#260 [02:28] <Smanly> there is no point
#261 [02:28] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#262 [02:28] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#263 [02:28] <donuts42> I'm just saying that's what many tutorial say to do
#264 [02:28] <Smanly> Wait, wat
#265 [02:28] <donuts42> i guess ill try something else
#266 [02:28] <donuts42> thank you for the nonspecific criticism of my mod installation methods
#267 [02:29] <Smanly> Dude, what.
#268 [02:29] <donuts42> it's [i]super[/i] helpful
#269 [02:29] <donuts42> and yes, I know there are no forum codes
#270 [02:29] <donuts42> the tags are for ironic purposes
#271 [02:29] <Smanly> If you dont want help then leave...
#272 [02:29] <donuts42> Does anyone have any suggestions of what I should do then?
#273 [02:29] <Smanly> Yes
#274 [02:30] <frogaincia> @Smanly, i can post the whole thing if you want. just started with the actual error. everything else is platform infos and stuff
#275 [02:30] <Wug> donuts42: just open it in winrar or whatever, dont actually extract it
#276 [02:30] <Wug> those archive editors let you edit without extracting
#277 [02:30] <donuts42> okay
#278 [02:30] <Smanly> frogaincia: yes, that not really the error.
#279 [02:30] <Wug> frogaincia: that might be useful
#280 [02:31] <frogaincia> 1sec
#281 [02:31] <frogaincia> http://mibpaste.com/kKxasr
#282 [02:32] <frogaincia> time's after i first asked cuz i tried something with my firewall, also a few other servers
#283 [02:32] * jasper [jasper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#284 [02:32] <Smanly> when does it happen?
#285 [02:33] <frogaincia> 30 seconds to a few minutes max after joining one specific server
#286 [02:33] * BluePotato1994 [BluePotato1994@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#287 [02:33] <Smanly> Oh...
#288 [02:33] <frogaincia> everyone else to my knowledge on server's fine
#289 [02:33] <frogaincia> im fine on other servers
#290 [02:33] <Smanly> Wierd.
#291 [02:34] <frogaincia> thats why i'm here :)
#292 [02:34] <Smanly> What have you tired to fix it?
#293 [02:34] <BluePotato1994> Minecraft crashed after login on linux :(
#294 [02:34] <jasper> Hello, sorry bother people, but I have a question. I wanted to try the demo of minecraft, so registered an account, downloaded the .zip, dragged the app to allications folder, open it, tried logging in, and it says "user not premium", and a try again box and a greyed out box with "not downloaded" under it
#295 [02:34] <frogaincia> played with my firewall a bit because its been acting funky lately, pretty sure thats not the problem because other servers work
#296 [02:34] <jasper> sorry to bother people
#297 [02:34] <frogaincia> clean minecraft install
#298 [02:35] <Smanly> You deleted the .minecraft, frogaincia?
#299 [02:35] <jasper> i tried clicking forcing update buttion
#300 [02:35] <frogaincia> jasper, do you have an old minecraft boot whatevertheycallit?
#301 [02:35] <jasper> no I just have what I just downloaded just now
#302 [02:35] <jasper> minecraft.zip
#303 [02:35] <Smanly> Where did you get that from?
#304 [02:36] <jasper> minecraft.net
#305 [02:36] <Smanly> http://www.minecraft.net/demo
#306 [02:36] <Smanly> That?
#307 [02:36] <jasper> yeah
#308 [02:36] <BluePotato1994> Where's the .minecraft folder on linux anyone know?
#309 [02:36] <jasper> I followed those steps exactly
#310 [02:36] <Smanly> Ah, its a .zip for a mac, lol.
#311 [02:36] <GBlock> User directory, I think.
#312 [02:37] <GBlock> It's just hidden by default, so you won't see in your file-browser unless you toggle some options.
#313 [02:37] <jasper> I dont have a "Play demo" button
#314 [02:37] <BluePotato1994> ahhh found it
#315 [02:37] <Smanly> I heard somthing about the demo not actually working.
#316 [02:37] <BluePotato1994> It was in the home directory
#317 [02:37] <Smanly> Anyone know about that?
#318 [02:37] <Smanly> I dont have a demo button either
#319 [02:37] <GBlock> jasper: Unfortunately, this is a common bug; near as we can tell we'll just have to wait it out until Mojang gets back to work. : \
#320 [02:38] <GBlock> I'm running 10.7.4, tried the Linux version with SLIGHTLY better results (button's there!), but still NO SUCCESS (Done Loading 90% glitch).
#321 [02:38] <jasper> oh shoot, well if its a bug and I have to wait, I guess I'll just have to wait
#322 [02:38] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#323 [02:38] <jasper> thanks for the help
#324 [02:38] <GBlock> jasper: Yeah, major bummer huh? :<
#325 [02:39] <jasper> yeah ;(
#326 [02:39] <jasper> :(
#327 [02:39] <GBlock> 48 hours have felt like FOREVER... I really need to find something else to do with my time. XD
#328 [02:39] <BluePotato1994> After logging in the Mojang logo appears, as soon as OpenAL starts in Terminal the game crashes
#329 [02:40] <BluePotato1994> :L
#330 [02:40] <GBlock> Say fellas, can you update VoxelHead to spout off information about the MALFUNCTIONING 'Play Demo' BUTTON on OSX, and the '90% Done Loading' glitch for everyone else?
#331 [02:41] <GBlock> Because between here and the forums, those're ALL OVER the place.
#332 [02:42] <frogaincia> sorry, got distracted Smanly. is there a .minecraft folder on mac? its been a while but i thought there was just a <user>/library/application support/minecraft folder
#333 [02:42] <GBlock> BluePotato1994: Can't help you directly, BUT maybe true pasting the errors at pastebin.com ? Maybe someone'll figure something out!
#334 [02:42] <GBlock> *maybe try
#335 [02:43] <BluePotato1994> k
#336 [02:43] <BluePotato1994> I deleted my .minecraft folder incase it was a buggy download
#337 [02:43] <Smanly> Oh, right, you are on a mac, lol.
#338 [02:43] <GBlock> (That is, paste, post, and link us off to the post so we can dig in. :3)
#339 [02:43] <Smanly> I dont know much about MC on a Mac.
#340 [02:44] * Treddles [Treddles@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#341 [02:44] <BluePotato1994> me?
#342 [02:44] <BluePotato1994> im on linux
#343 [02:44] <Smanly> Did you delete that folder, frogaincia?
#344 [02:44] <BluePotato1994> no mac
#345 [02:44] <Smanly> Lol, not you, BluePotato1994.
#346 [02:44] <BluePotato1994> xD
#347 [02:45] <Smanly> but mac is just pretty linux, lol.
#348 [02:45] <GBlock> ... I thought it was BSD, but... nevermind...
#349 [02:45] <Treddles> How can i fix Connection Lost. Failed to login: bad login when trying to play other people's servers?
#350 [02:46] <Arle> Treddles, buy Minecraft.
#351 [02:46] <Treddles> I have bought it
#352 [02:47] <frogaincia> actually buy it
#353 [02:47] <frogaincia> or dont give people your login :P
#354 [02:47] <frogaincia> and yea, i deleted the entire folder
#355 [02:47] <frogaincia> i could
#356 [02:47] <frogaincia> oh. brb
#357 [02:51] * Builder [Builder@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#358 [02:52] <Builder> I need some help with getting my smp running it wont connect for me or anyone
#359 [02:52] <Smanly> Did you port forward?
#360 [02:52] <Builder> yea
#361 [02:53] <Builder> This is what i get when i try to load minecraft
#362 [02:53] <Builder> [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 98.240.98.189:25565 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#363 [02:53] <Smanly> ....
#364 [02:53] <Smanly> Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#365 [02:53] <Builder> i dont have one on that port
#366 [02:53] <Builder> ive checked
#367 [02:53] <Smanly> Yes you do.
#368 [02:53] <Arle> you on Windows?
#369 [02:53] <Smanly> How many do you have running?
#370 [02:53] * mib_8jikwv [mib_8jikwv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#371 [02:54] <mib_8jikwv> I have a question
#372 [02:54] <mib_8jikwv> its about minecraft
#373 [02:54] <Smanly> ??>> mib_8jikwv ask
#374 [02:54] <mib_8jikwv> it gives all the times errors
#375 [02:54] <Builder> I thought 1 but i guess the way back from hamachi is running off the same port
#376 [02:54] <Builder> but i thought me an disk removed that 1
#377 [02:54] <Smanly> What?
#378 [02:54] <mib_8jikwv> reset by peer
#379 [02:54] <Arle> if you're on Windows, run cmd as administrator and type netstat -a -b
#380 [02:55] <mib_8jikwv> Can somebody help ME?
#381 [02:55] <mib_8jikwv> with the errors my minecraft gives all the time i start minecraft
#382 [02:55] <frogaincia> can you explain your problem more understandably?
#383 [02:55] <frogaincia> also, dammit
#384 [02:56] <Smanly> brb
#385 [02:56] <frogaincia> i thought i had it fixed, lasted the longest yet but then *error* right when i was feeling good
#386 [02:56] <Wug> Builder: clear the server-ip line
#387 [02:56] <mib_8jikwv> it says Internal exeption: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#388 [02:56] <Wug> and never set it again
#389 [02:57] <mib_8jikwv> it says Internal exeption: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#390 [02:57] <Builder> yea i did
#391 [02:57] <mib_8jikwv> so can somebody help me?
#392 [02:58] <mib_8jikwv> it gives an error all the time if i try to do multipkayer
#393 [02:58] <mib_8jikwv> it says Internal exeption: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#394 [02:58] <frogaincia> are you running 1.3.1 or 1.2.5
#395 [02:58] <mib_8jikwv> 1.3.1
#396 [02:58] * Necrodoom [Necrodoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#397 [02:58] <frogaincia> are you trying one server
#398 [02:58] <frogaincia> or multiple
#399 [02:58] <mib_8jikwv> no several
#400 [02:58] <frogaincia> also, this stupid autonames getting o my nerve
#401 [02:58] <mib_8jikwv> like 3 of them
#402 [02:59] <zzzz> try one thats for sure updated
#403 [02:59] <zzzz> uhh
#404 [02:59] <mib_8jikwv> ???
#405 [02:59] <zzzz> someone posted this one earlier
#406 [02:59] <zzzz> mc.lost-servers.com
#407 [03:00] <mib_8jikwv> yeah but it stops after a couple of min.
#408 [03:01] <zzzz> with?
#409 [03:01] <mib_8jikwv> it stopped again
#410 [03:01] <mib_8jikwv> it says Internal exeption: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#411 [03:01] <mib_8jikwv> so?
#412 [03:02] <Smanly> relax, wait.
#413 [03:02] <mib_8jikwv> ...
#414 [03:02] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#415 [03:02] <Smanly> So, you cant join, mc.lost-servers.com?
#416 [03:02] <mib_8jikwv> nope
#417 [03:02] <mib_8jikwv> i could a couple of secs
#418 [03:02] <Smanly> What
#419 [03:02] <mib_8jikwv> but after that it stopped
#420 [03:03] <Smanly> You were on it, but then it kicked you off?
#421 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> yep
#422 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> like all the servers
#423 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> who are updated
#424 [03:03] <Smanly> And thats the only error you are getting?
#425 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> yep
#426 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> oh no
#427 [03:03] <mib_8jikwv> and sometimes reset by peer
#428 [03:04] <mib_8jikwv> but thats not very often
#429 [03:04] <Smanly> Do you have a firewall and or antivirus?
#430 [03:05] <mib_8jikwv> yes
#431 [03:05] <Smanly> Which?
#432 [03:05] <mib_8jikwv> Norman
#433 [03:05] <mib_8jikwv> but it workt great be4
#434 [03:05] <Smanly> Try disabling it and then playing.
#435 [03:05] <zzzz> i realized i wasn't using an absolutely clean install of minecraft because i'd backed up and reinserted my servers.dat and my saved maps, so i re backed those up and tried with a completely clean install. but still error :(
#436 [03:05] <mib_8jikwv> k i will try
#437 [03:06] <Smanly> What is your issue, zzzz?
#438 [03:06] <zzzz> i changed my nick from that ridiculous frog thing it auto gave me
#439 [03:06] <zzzz> frogaincia
#440 [03:06] <mib_8jikwv> k i disabled it
#441 [03:06] <Smanly> Lolwut, ok.
#442 [03:07] * DaNerd27 [DaNerd27@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#443 [03:07] <zzzz> it makes sense, i swear
#444 [03:07] <zzzz> unlike this ridiculousness with minecraft
#445 [03:08] <Smanly> Does it work fine now, mib_8jikwv?
#446 [03:09] <DaNerd27> My 1.3.1 client closes itself every 10 minutes or so with this error in the launcher's directory:
#447 [03:09] <DaNerd27> http://pastebin.com/XZeEWQUa
#448 [03:10] <Smanly> Which version of java is that?
#449 [03:10] <mib_8jikwv> i just updated it
#450 [03:10] <Smanly> What?
#451 [03:10] <mib_8jikwv> i just updated it
#452 [03:10] <Smanly> Oh thanks
#453 [03:10] <Smanly> I understand now.
#454 [03:11] <DaNerd27> ._. Just ping me when you're ready to help me.
#455 [03:11] <Smanly> Which version of java is that, DaNerd27?
#456 [03:11] <DaNerd27> 7u5, I believe.
#457 [03:11] <mib_8jikwv> java 7u5 to
#458 [03:11] <Smanly> Do you have any other versions?
#459 [03:11] <DaNerd27> Not that I know of.
#460 [03:12] <Smanly> Check
#461 [03:12] <mib_8jikwv> mine is 7u5 to
#462 [03:12] <DaNerd27> None.
#463 [03:12] <Smanly> Does it work fine now, mib_8jikwv?
#464 [03:12] <mib_8jikwv> no
#465 [03:12] <Smanly> I am not familiar with that error, DaNerd27.
#466 [03:13] <Smanly> I would reccomend un-installing and reinstalling java.
#467 [03:13] <DaNerd27> Figures. It's relatively new and only happens with 1.3.1.
#468 [03:13] <DaNerd27> K.
#469 [03:14] <Smanly> DaNerd27 "This issue could be seen due to User Account Control (UAC) feature enabled on Windows Vista or Windows 7 operating system. "
#470 [03:14] <Smanly> "Temporarily disabling UAC may resolve the exception access issue, however, turning off UAC reduces the security of your system. We do not recommend leaving UAC disabled."
#471 [03:14] <Smanly> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/exception_access.xml
#472 [03:15] <Smanly> Google is a cool guy.
#473 [03:15] <DaNerd27> Ah. Thanks.
#474 [03:16] <Smanly> ok, zzzz, where were we?
#475 [03:16] <zzzz> ever heard of lmgtfy.com?
#476 [03:16] <Smanly> Yeah, lol
#477 [03:16] <DaNerd27> That security warning about disabling the UAC scares me a bit, though.
#478 [03:16] <zzzz> best way of saying google is a cool guy evar
#479 [03:16] <Smanly> Nah
#480 [03:16] <zzzz> i'm pretty sure we left off with me throwing my computer out the window and having to go retrieve it quick
#481 [03:17] <Smanly> We do not recommend LEAVING UAC disabled.
#482 [03:17] <zzzz> this is from the same OS that thinks you need a massive popup any time a program tries doing anything interseting
#483 [03:17] <Smanly> Well, yeah...
#484 [03:17] <zzzz> interseting. lol. it's past my bedtime
#485 [03:17] <Smanly> kthnksbai
#486 [03:17] <DaNerd27> Same here, zzzz.
#487 [03:17] <Smanly> lol.
#488 [03:17] <Smanly> I wish I had a bedtime.
#489 [03:18] <DaNerd27> It's midnight where I'm at.
#490 [03:18] <zzzz> it's not *actually* past my bedtime, but it really should be.
#491 [03:18] <Smanly> 2 here, lol.
#492 [03:18] <zzzz> ^
#493 [03:18] <Smanly> Ok, zzzz, I have a solution,
#494 [03:18] <zzzz> orly?
#495 [03:18] <Smanly> Dont play on that server :D
#496 [03:18] <Smanly> easy, right?
#497 [03:19] <zzzz> :((((((((((((((((
#498 [03:19] <Smanly> Idk how I didnt think of it before.
#499 [03:19] <zzzz> you can't tell me who i can play with!
#500 [03:19] <Smanly> You are right.
#501 [03:19] <Smanly> keep playing on it.
#502 [03:19] <Smanly> sry
#503 [03:20] <zzzz> who i play with is my choice mom!
#504 [03:20] <Smanly> zzzz pls
#505 [03:20] <skyboy> you have a choice mom?
#506 [03:20] <zzzz> you aren't the boss of me! *storms off to room*
#507 [03:20] <Smanly> You play with your choice mom too?
#508 [03:20] <zzzz> shhhh
#509 [03:21] <Smanly> Tell them thier server is borked
#510 [03:21] <DaNerd27> ...
#511 [03:21] <Smanly> ?
#512 [03:21] <DaNerd27> I'm gonna leave now.
#513 [03:21] <Smanly> Wat, hokay.
#514 [03:21] <zzzz> lol
#515 [03:21] <zzzz> i diiiiiid though
#516 [03:21] <zzzz> i diiiiiid though
#517 [03:22] * mib_8jikwv [mib_8jikwv@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#518 [03:22] <Smanly> go to thier house.
#519 [03:22] <Smanly> beat them up.
#520 [03:22] <zzzz> its not borked for anyone else so they told me to fuck off and went back to watching lesbian pr0nz or something
#521 [03:22] * AuBot kicked zzzz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: zzz :Please keep it civil.)
#522 [03:22] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#523 [03:22] <zzzz> whoops
#524 [03:22] <Smanly> lul
#525 [03:22] <zzzz> aubot doesnt like bad words
#526 [03:23] <zzzz> its not borked for anyone else so they told me to [redacted] off and went back to watching [redacted] or something
#527 [03:23] <Smanly> yeah, I saw it, lol.
#528 [03:23] <skyboy> we saw that without the redactions :P
#529 [03:23] <Smanly> :D
#530 [03:23] <zzzz> its almost funnier with them
#531 [03:23] <zzzz> anyway
#532 [03:24] <zzzz> yea
#533 [03:24] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#534 [03:24] <zzzz> and i really dont want to stop playing on that server, since its for an internet forum i frequent with a bunch of pretty cool guys
#535 [03:24] <Smanly> yeah, idk what to tell you.
#536 [03:24] <skyboy> can you connect to other servers?
#537 [03:24] <zzzz> and the admin's never really run a server before, much less an MC server, but he's got some programming background and a really nice dl/ul so he's hosting it.
#538 [03:25] <zzzz> the one i linked to that other kid worked fine as long as it takes to starve to death twice
#539 [03:25] <Necrodoom> what was the error, again?
#540 [03:26] <Smanly> "Banned: No."
#541 [03:26] <Necrodoom> so, he is banned
#542 [03:26] <Necrodoom> prob IP ban, if they cant find it
#543 [03:26] <skyboy> well, they have to unban you then. if they won't, too bad
#544 [03:26] <Smanly> Lol, no. Sorry, only kidding.
#545 [03:26] <Necrodoom> Smanly: ..
#546 [03:26] <Smanly> :D
#547 [03:27] <Smanly> http://mibpaste.com/kKxasr
#548 [03:27] <Smanly> Thats zzzz's
#549 [03:28] * ylluminate [ylluminate@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#550 [03:28] <Necrodoom> when he trys to log to that server?
#551 [03:28] <Necrodoom> hm
#552 [03:28] <zzzz> yep
#553 [03:28] <zzzz> nobody else on server's got the problem, dont have the problem on any other servers
#554 [03:28] <zzzz> which just plain doesn't make sense
#555 [03:29] <Necrodoom> never seen that kind of error
#556 [03:29] <Necrodoom> possibly a render issue?
#557 [03:29] <zzzz> if i knew the admin knew anything about networking i would assume it was him messing with me, but he doesnt
#558 [03:29] <zzzz> possible
#559 [03:29] <zzzz> i suppose
#560 [03:29] <skyboy> it's not a render issue
#561 [03:29] <zzzz> i dont see *why*
#562 [03:29] <zzzz> i dont know the mc code at all
#563 [03:29] <Necrodoom> you prob already got suggested to get a fresh .minecraft
#564 [03:29] <skyboy> the server's telling his client to render an entity his client doesn't have
#565 [03:29] <Smanly> What version is LWJGL?
#566 [03:30] <skyboy> is the server v1.3.1?
#567 [03:30] <skyboy> it's not LWJGL
#568 [03:30] <zzzz> ya
#569 [03:30] <skyboy> is the server modded?
#570 [03:30] <zzzz> lightly
#571 [03:30] <zzzz> not where i was playing
#572 [03:30] <Smanly> O.o
#573 [03:30] <skyboy> uh
#574 [03:30] <Smanly> wat?
#575 [03:30] <Necrodoom> zzzz: what mod?
#576 [03:30] <zzzz> unless you count the multiworld mod, i was playing a vanilla world
#577 [03:30] <Necrodoom> multiworld mod..?
#578 [03:30] <Necrodoom> you mean bukkit plugins?
#579 [03:30] <Smanly> Yeah.
#580 [03:31] <zzzz> dunno
#581 [03:31] <Smanly> Could be a bug with bukkit.
#582 [03:31] <Smanly> Only dev builds are out.
#583 [03:31] <zzzz> possible
#584 [03:31] <skyboy> the server is telling your client to render an entity that you do not have
#585 [03:31] <Smanly> Oh.
#586 [03:31] <Necrodoom> let me check leaky.bukkit
#587 [03:31] <Necrodoom> 1.3.1 bukkit is unstable
#588 [03:31] <zzzz> ty
#589 [03:31] <Smanly> You know this for sure, skyboy?
#590 [03:31] <skyboy> asu.a is NetClientHandler.getEntityByID
#591 [03:31] <zzzz> its just striking me as really freaking weird, because its only affecting ME
#592 [03:32] <Smanly> Is it the same exact error ever time?
#593 [03:33] <zzzz> lemme double check
#594 [03:33] <zzzz> oh. thats awkward.
#595 [03:33] <Smanly> Also, you arent able to get on at all?
#596 [03:33] <zzzz> the crash reports were deleted with the rest of the minecraft folder when i just tried reinstalling it again
#597 [03:33] <Calinou> latest dev build should work fine, I know some server on 1.3.1 bukkit with 58 plugins. no crashes
#598 [03:33] <zzzz> no i get on
#599 [03:34] <zzzz> i get the error after anywhere between ~30 seconds and a few minutes
#600 [03:34] <zzzz> havnt noticed anything in particular that i've been doing right before
#601 [03:34] <Necrodoom> cannot find anything on issue tracker
#602 [03:34] <zzzz> i just realized i havent tried not placing or picking any blocks though. brb
#603 [03:34] <Necrodoom> thats entity related
#604 [03:34] <Smanly> Everytime you answer my questions before I ask them, lol.
#605 [03:35] <Smanly> brb
#606 [03:37] <zzzz> unlike most of the people who've shown up here i have some semblance of an idea of what i'm doing. lol
#607 [03:38] <Smanly> :D
#608 [03:38] <Smanly> Check to see if it the same error everytime.
#609 [03:39] <zzzz> also, one of my greasemonkey scripts im trying to help a friend with is freaking the fuck out and wrecking my cpu. gotta restart firefox. what do to keep a nick on this irc?
#610 [03:39] * AuBot kicked zzzz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: zzz :Please keep it civil.)
#611 [03:39] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#612 [03:39] <Smanly> -_-
#613 [03:39] <Chris> ??< patience
#614 [03:39] <zzzz> again? keep forgetting i cant swear lol
#615 [03:40] <zzzz> but if i just /quit will it let me use the same nick
#616 [03:40] <zzzz> or do i need to do something
#617 [03:40] <Smanly> Dont worry about the nick, zzzz.
#618 [03:40] <Smanly> yeah.
#619 [03:40] <zzzz> lolk
#620 [03:40] <zzzz> brb
#621 [03:41] <skyboy> actually, i take it back; i'm not certain
#622 [03:41] <skyboy> apparently MCPBot isn't up to date, because i can't trace everything back
#623 [03:43] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#624 [03:43] <zzzz> "no javascript makes our frogs cry tears of cheese"
#625 [03:43] <zzzz> also, back
#626 [03:43] <Smanly> who are you?
#627 [03:43] <zzzz> quiet you
#628 [03:44] <zzzz> that's the error i got from mibbit when noscript wasn't letting it do its thing, btw. i was just like wat
#629 [03:44] <Smanly> [02:44] <NaN> quiet you
#630 [03:44] <Smanly> XD
#631 [03:44] <zzzz> wait rly
#632 [03:44] <Smanly> no
#633 [03:44] <Smanly> [02:44] <zzzz> quiet you
#634 [03:44] <zzzz> :P
#635 [03:44] <zzzz> that's got to be one of the most ridiculous :P faces i've ever seen. also, who uses NaN anymore anyway
#636 [03:45] <Calinou> lol, mibbit
#637 [03:45] <Smanly> XD
#638 [03:45] <Smanly> Also
#639 [03:45] <Smanly> Why would a nick need to be a number.
#640 [03:45] <zzzz> well, they did have that thing i copied above as their javascript disabled message
#641 [03:45] <skyboy> zzzz: anything that uses a float or double
#642 [03:45] <zzzz> quiet to you too
#643 [03:46] <Smanly> I get NaN on notification bubbles sometimes.
#644 [03:46] <zzzz> plus nicks have letters
#645 [03:46] <Smanly> [02:45] <Smanly> Why would a nick need to be a number.
#646 [03:46] <zzzz> a nick *could* be a number
#647 [03:46] <skyboy> also, in javascript, if you attempt to subtract, multiply or divide a string, you get NaN
#648 [03:46] <Smanly> Need
#649 [03:47] <zzzz> well la ti da
#650 [03:47] <zzzz> anyway
#651 [03:47] <skyboy> NaN, when converted to a string is NaN
#652 [03:47] <skyboy> so nicks showing up is _plausible_ in a horrible javascript client
#653 [03:47] <skyboy> like mibbit
#654 [03:47] <skyboy> shh, it sucks enough i want to imagine it as javascript
#655 [03:48] <zzzz> hey, its what the minecraft website's link autolinked me to when i clicked the #minecrafthelp link
#656 [03:48] <zzzz> and i'm lazy, so it works
#657 [03:48] <zzzz> also, havent clicked anything but doors buttons and food and havent managed to make minecraft crash yet
#658 [03:49] <zzzz> is there any way this could be related to that funky lighting bug where it makes things render straight black
#659 [03:49] <skyboy> destroy a block
#660 [03:49] <skyboy> and no
#661 [03:49] <zzzz> ok, mined one block fine
#662 [03:49] <skyboy> place it
#663 [03:50] <Smanly> eat a cactus
#664 [03:50] <zzzz> did
#665 [03:50] <zzzz> NOM
#666 [03:50] <zzzz> i have one of those upstairs, actually. its like 4" tall and its spines are about 2". thing's terrifying
#667 [03:50] <zzzz> broke and placed one dirt no problem
#668 [03:50] <skyboy> okay, well. next time it goes down, remember the time of day ( so keep a clock on you)
#669 [03:50] <zzzz> ?
#670 [03:50] <zzzz> o. ingame?
#671 [03:51] <skyboy> if it's a mob spawn, it's most likely to happen at night
#672 [03:51] <zzzz> how do you mean mob spawn
#673 [03:51] <skyboy> although, given the random nature, it could not happen for a while
#674 [03:51] <zzzz> would it be generic to any mob spawning?
#675 [03:51] <skyboy> mod, like creepers and shit
#676 [03:51] <skyboy> they spawn
#677 [03:51] <zzzz> or a specific mob
#678 [03:52] <skyboy> it would be a mob you don't have in your client
#679 [03:52] <zzzz> oh
#680 [03:52] <zzzz> wait
#681 [03:52] <zzzz> what
#682 [03:52] <Smanly> This is just a regular SMP server, right?
#683 [03:52] <zzzz> the world i've been crashing on is vanilla
#684 [03:52] <zzzz> yea
#685 [03:52] <skyboy> it's bukkit and has mods
#686 [03:52] <zzzz> well
#687 [03:52] <zzzz> bukkit
#688 [03:52] <Smanly> What are the other worlds?
#689 [03:53] <zzzz> but its got multiworlds or something like that, and i've been playing on a vanilla one meant for guests
#690 [03:53] <zzzz> making the spawn purdy
#691 [03:54] <zzzz> still want the other worlds?
#692 [03:54] <skyboy> since it may not crash again, you may as well quit until it does
#693 [03:55] * AmberK [AmberK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#694 [03:55] <skyboy> remember what you were doing and the time of day
#695 [03:55] <skyboy> though, there is the chance it's caused by someone else entirely
#696 [03:56] <Smanly> Record it!
#697 [03:56] <zzzz> and *crash* *burn* *explosion!*
#698 [03:56] <skyboy> that's a good idea actually
#699 [03:56] <zzzz> don't have any recording software :/
#700 [03:56] <zzzz> but it was night
#701 [03:56] <Smanly> Dont macs natively record?
#702 [03:56] <zzzz> last half of night
#703 [03:56] <zzzz> not mine
#704 [03:56] <zzzz> then again
#705 [03:56] <Smanly> Quicktime?
#706 [03:56] <skyboy> yep, they have other mods on there
#707 [03:56] <Smanly> Oh.
#708 [03:57] <zzzz> idk
#709 [03:57] <zzzz> maybe
#710 [03:57] <zzzz> i dont touch quicktime lol
#711 [03:57] <zzzz> i had just mined out some blocks and was placing them when it crashed
#712 [03:57] <skyboy> your client was told to spawn an entity that iit doesn't have
#713 [03:57] <zzzz> you're certain?
#714 [03:58] <Smanly> See is the error is the same.
#715 [03:58] <zzzz> checking now
#716 [03:58] <Smanly> Why do I always write "is" instead of "if"?
#717 [03:58] <zzzz> was about to copypaste the one that showed up in the minecraft app but then i noticed it wasnt formatted the same
#718 [03:58] <zzzz> wtf minecraft
#719 [03:58] <Smanly> Copy it still.
#720 [03:58] * TKGP [TKGP@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#721 [03:59] <zzzz> http://mibpaste.com/HYUVy8
#722 [03:59] * godlysinzmcpe [godlysinzmcpe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#723 [03:59] <zzzz> i was copying the equivalent
#724 [03:59] <zzzz> which was from the .minecraft/crash-reports
#725 [03:59] <zzzz> so theyd be formatted the same
#726 [03:59] <Smanly> is it the same?
#727 [03:59] <zzzz> far as i can tell its identical
#728 [03:59] <Smanly> hmm
#729 [03:59] <skyboy> it's the same
#730 [04:00] <skyboy> only difference is memory usage and time
#731 [04:00] <skyboy> literally
#732 [04:00] <zzzz> except the random comment at the top and memory usage and time
#733 [04:00] <zzzz> yep
#734 [04:00] <Smanly> and the top bit, lol
#735 [04:00] <godlysinzmcpe> how do i get irc chat on my minecraft pe serve
#736 [04:00] <skyboy> eh, the comment is irrelevant
#737 [04:00] <skyboy> ??>> godlysinzmcpe mods
#738 [04:00] <zzzz> well, yea. i was just being thorough
#739 [04:00] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#740 [04:01] <zzzz> although for whats its worth i liked the comment from the earlier one better
#741 [04:01] <skyboy> i'm going to go read some source, moment
#742 [04:01] <zzzz> the newer one just makes me feel guilty
#743 [04:01] <zzzz> kk
#744 [04:01] <Smanly> lol
#745 [04:02] * Freddo [Freddo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#746 [04:03] <godlysinzmcpe> how do i get nodus on minecraft pocket edition
#747 [04:03] <Calinou> lol
#748 [04:03] <auscompgeek> I... just...
#749 [04:03] <zzzz> on a completely unrelated tangent, i hate glasses >:( my super swanky overear headphones are super comfy and i can wear them for days, unless my glasses are on. in which case it pinches my ears against them and i can only last a few hours :(
#750 [04:03] <zzzz> alos
#751 [04:03] <Calinou> answer to both of your questions: you can't
#752 [04:03] <skyboy> is that a mod?
#753 [04:03] <zzzz> wat
#754 [04:03] <Smanly> Easy, godlysinzmcpe.
#755 [04:04] <Smanly> Tape your mobile device to your PC.
#756 [04:04] <zzzz> wait. you're the same person
#757 [04:04] <GBlock> zzzz: I would then dare to recommend a decent set of earphones.
#758 [04:04] <zzzz> i would recommend a strong bump to the forehead.
#759 [04:04] <zzzz> ideally from a desk
#760 [04:04] <zzzz> they ARE a decent set
#761 [04:04] <zzzz> they're some nice sennheisers
#762 [04:04] <zzzz> my glasses just hate sharing my ears
#763 [04:04] <Calinou> sennheiser is overrated
#764 [04:05] <Smanly> get better glasses then.
#765 [04:05] <Smanly> Oh tilt your glasses down.
#766 [04:05] <Smanly> or up depending how you look at it.
#767 [04:05] <zzzz> astigmatism, i only do that if im pretending to be drunk
#768 [04:05] <zzzz> its pretty effective
#769 [04:05] <GBlock> Not headphones; earphones; y'know, buds?
#770 [04:05] <zzzz> but...
#771 [04:06] <zzzz> but...
#772 [04:06] <zzzz> BASS
#773 [04:06] <GBlock> Also: Sucks, man. :\
#774 [04:06] <GBlock> Dude.
#775 [04:06] <Calinou> headphones + mic FTW
#776 [04:06] <GBlock> Buds are IN YOUR EARS.
#777 [04:06] <Smanly> ^
#778 [04:06] <Smanly> = more bass
#779 [04:06] <GBlock> That's like direct stimulation.
#780 [04:06] <godlysinzmcpe> how do i get irc on minecraft pocket edition
#781 [04:06] <zzzz> oh dear god
#782 [04:06] <GBlock> But anyhow, I dig what you mean.
#783 [04:06] <Smanly> Someone kick this troll.
#784 [04:06] <zzzz> repeat my previous answer until sanity is restored
#785 [04:06] <GBlock> Um... who? >_>
#786 [04:07] <Smanly> oh, just no one.
#787 [04:07] <godlysinzmcpe> im just a noob
#788 [04:07] <Smanly> right
#789 [04:07] <zzzz> yea
#790 [04:07] <zzzz> how do you think we got here?
#791 [04:07] <zzzz> copious amounts of headdesk.
#792 [04:07] <zzzz> it works, man!
#793 [04:07] <Smanly> speak for you self
#794 [04:08] <Smanly> I'm not in here for help, lol.
#795 [04:08] <GBlock> After the fiftieth time, you geed tidings from the Code Angel.
#796 [04:08] <GBlock> Geed even; imagine that!
#797 [04:08] <zzzz> also, doesn't help than 90% of the time i listen to music out of a stereo system... also, wat
#798 [04:08] <zzzz> true. you're one of those awesome people who helps other people in need for fun
#799 [04:09] <zzzz> sky's not back yet, is he?
#800 [04:09] <GBlock> Not sure what you're using, but I've been using Shure S4s for the past few years and love them; decently priced, mid-level.
#801 [04:09] <Smanly> Erm, mid level?
#802 [04:10] <Smanly> Those are pretty high mid levels
#803 [04:10] <GBlock> Not cheap crap, but not super pricey.
#804 [04:10] <GBlock> What? They're only around $70.
#805 [04:10] <Smanly> Hmm.
#806 [04:10] <Smanly> That is a lot of dollars.
#807 [04:10] <zzzz> all of the dollars?
#808 [04:10] <Smanly> I got nice Jvc ones for like 30.
#809 [04:10] <zzzz> also, i just realized i forgot to have dinner again. dammit
#810 [04:11] <Smanly> I dont eaet.
#811 [04:11] <zzzz> yea, my sennheisers were $40
#812 [04:11] <zzzz> epic sales ftw
#813 [04:11] <GBlock> Buds run up into hundreds ($100~300) at the high levels, and $1,000 for the bar-none-top-of-the-line; those suckers get custom molded to your ear-canal.
#814 [04:11] <GBlock> (I won't be buying those anytime soon.)
#815 [04:11] <GBlock> Sennheisers? Good stuff. (So I hear.)
#816 [04:12] <zzzz> im very happy, except the glasses issue
#817 [04:12] <zzzz> fantastic range, very even, satisfying bass
#818 [04:12] <zzzz> great volume range too, i can play with them around my neck with no problem but a lack of bass
#819 [04:13] * DJTurtle_com [DJTurtle_com@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#820 [04:13] <zzzz> i'm starting to worry if skyboy drowned in code
#821 [04:13] <GBlock> Man, I can hardly imagine people playing Portal 2 without getting its distinctive two-note bass drop.
#822 [04:13] <zzzz> lol
#823 [04:13] <zzzz> but i've never played portal 2 :(
#824 [04:13] <GBlock> I hate the boomers that stroll through the streets, but damn, that stuff rocks in P2.
#825 [04:13] <GBlock> Get out.
#826 [04:13] <zzzz> not my fault!
#827 [04:14] <zzzz> im just a poor teenager!
#828 [04:14] <GBlock> Summer sale; $10 WITH Portal 1.
#829 [04:14] <Smanly> Work the streets for money.
#830 [04:14] <zzzz> steam?
#831 [04:14] <Smanly> Wat
#832 [04:14] <DJTurtle_com> Hey guys. Need a little help. Just downloaded minecraft to play the demo. When I click "Play Demo" it hangs on the "Updating Minecraft / Done Loading" screen.
#833 [04:14] <zzzz> creepily enough i've had offers smanly. :S
#834 [04:14] <Smanly> Its borked, DJTurtle_com.
#835 [04:14] <zzzz> demo's borked
#836 [04:14] <GBlock> DJTurtle_com: This is a commonly reported issue with no known fix yet.
#837 [04:14] <zzzz> mojang still doesnt love freeloaders
#838 [04:15] <zzzz> <insert black eyed peas here>?
#839 [04:15] <DJTurtle_com> Ah. Thanks anyway. The purchased game works fine though?
#840 [04:15] <zzzz> supposedly
#841 [04:15] <DJTurtle_com> haha
#842 [04:15] <zzzz> for most people yes
#843 [04:16] <Smanly> For most servers, yes
#844 [04:16] <zzzz> mine in particular's being ornery, but it should work fine for you
#845 [04:17] <DJTurtle_com> I was just making sure it wasn't something I did. I just installed a fresh Win 7 copy (new solid state drive) and put the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Java on it so I wasn't sure if that was an issue or not. I might just fork out $27 and give it a go. Thanks guys.
#846 [04:17] <zzzz> totally worth it
#847 [04:17] <Smanly> ^
#848 [04:17] <zzzz> does anyone know if they plan to fix tripwires going on both blocks 1 vertical below the hook, and more below, btw?
#849 [04:18] <skyboy> zzzz: it is notch code, after all
#850 [04:18] <Smanly> Wait what?
#851 [04:18] <zzzz> i think that was directed at him drowning in code
#852 [04:18] <Smanly> No, the wires.
#853 [04:18] <zzzz> oh
#854 [04:19] <zzzz> if you have it set up so that it goes... how can i do this in irc. um
#855 [04:19] <Smanly> You mean so it goes up and down?
#856 [04:19] <zzzz> }=hook -=string []= block <>=air
#857 [04:19] <zzzz> }----------{
#858 [04:19] <Smanly> Lol, voxel dont like that.
#859 [04:20] <zzzz> wat
#860 [04:20] <Smanly> Paste bin it.
#861 [04:20] <zzzz> aha!
#862 [04:20] <GBlock> zzzz: Take this for a spin, and wait the (around) two minutes for the bass drop; genre's electronica (or something): http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/TEST/4cvuGT?src=5
#863 [04:20] * suomynona [suomynona@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#864 [04:20] <GBlock> The whole OST is actually available for free by Valve, but some of the track titles are spoilery.
#865 [04:22] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#866 [04:22] <Smanly> "Glados becomes a potatoe Feat. Gabe"
#867 [04:22] <zzzz> http://mibpaste.com/ZvbUG0 []}-----------------{[]
#868 [04:22] <zzzz> :P
#869 [04:22] <zzzz> http://mibpaste.com/ZvbUG0
#870 [04:22] <zzzz> i accidentally copypasted extra
#871 [04:22] <GBlock> Don't forget 'Alpha Omega Monkey Generator'.
#872 [04:23] <zzzz> i think voxel dislikes the pointy one
#873 [04:23] <Smanly> no idea wth that is supposed to be.
#874 [04:24] <zzzz> }=hook -=string []= block space=air
#875 [04:24] <DJTurtle_com> Purchased. Working perfectly.
#876 [04:24] <zzzz> sweet
#877 [04:24] <DJTurtle_com> ttyl guys!
#878 [04:24] <Smanly> :D
#879 [04:24] <Smanly> HAve fun!
#880 [04:24] <zzzz> enjoy your lack of social life
#881 [04:24] <zzzz> still worth it!
#882 [04:24] <Smanly> XD, quit msg.
#883 [04:25] <zzzz> llolol
#884 [04:26] <Smanly> Is this a top of side view
#885 [04:26] <Smanly> ?
#886 [04:26] <zzzz> side view
#887 [04:26] <Smanly> or if >0 but <all that row are blocks
#888 [04:26] <Smanly> Wat?
#889 [04:27] <zzzz> if more than 0 but less than all the row below the hook and string is blocks
#890 [04:27] <zzzz> it wont function
#891 [04:27] <Smanly> Screen shot this. Im so lost.
#892 [04:28] <zzzz> kk
#893 [04:28] <zzzz> kk
#894 [04:29] * suomynona [suomynona@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#895 [04:33] <zzzz> uploading
#896 [04:33] <Smanly> waoh
#897 [04:33] <zzzz> kk
#898 [04:33] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/hDWuv.png
#899 [04:33] <zzzz> works
#900 [04:33] <zzzz> wat
#901 [04:34] <Smanly> That wont work?
#902 [04:34] <zzzz> invisible links ftw?
#903 [04:34] <Smanly> Wat?
#904 [04:34] <zzzz> no
#905 [04:34] <zzzz> that works
#906 [04:34] <Smanly> ...
#907 [04:34] <Smanly> O
#908 [04:34] <zzzz> it also works if every empty block there is a solid block
#909 [04:34] <zzzz> but
#910 [04:34] <zzzz> and note that all of these have a solid line of string running between the hooks even if theres string floating about itemized
#911 [04:34] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/p0FwC.png
#912 [04:35] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/5tTsr.png
#913 [04:35] <Smanly> I see
#914 [04:35] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/scDXw.png
#915 [04:35] <zzzz> all dont
#916 [04:35] <zzzz> much to my dismay
#917 [04:35] <zzzz> they dont work because
#918 [04:35] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/TGgaP.png
#919 [04:35] <zzzz> when theyre floating above air they're done differently
#920 [04:36] <zzzz> when theyre on a block theyre just reskinned redstone
#921 [04:36] <GBlock> 'Night folks.
#922 [04:36] <zzzz> gnight
#923 [04:36] <Smanly> adios
#924 [04:36] <Smanly> The issue it the walls, right?
#925 [04:37] <zzzz> blocks
#926 [04:37] <Smanly> wat
#927 [04:37] <zzzz> the row below the row with the hooks and string between them
#928 [04:37] <zzzz> in the first pic theres no blocks there
#929 [04:37] <Smanly> But
#930 [04:38] <Smanly> That is just a floor, no?
#931 [04:38] <zzzz> wat
#932 [04:38] <Smanly> I hate text chat.
#933 [04:38] <Smanly> k?
#934 [04:38] <zzzz> hahahaha
#935 [04:38] <Calinou> why do you hate text chat?
#936 [04:38] <zzzz> because we're having communication problems
#937 [04:38] <Smanly> Voice is way way better.
#938 [04:39] <zzzz> but anyway
#939 [04:39] <Smanly> I give up
#940 [04:40] <zzzz> i dont see why it would be intentional, but meh
#941 [04:40] <Calinou> voice is harder to use if you don't speak english natively, much
#942 [04:40] <zzzz> idun get what you dun get
#943 [04:40] <Calinou> it gets useless
#944 [04:40] <zzzz> also true
#945 [04:40] <Smanly> But...
#946 [04:40] <zzzz> i realized that getting tech support (forgive me) the other day
#947 [04:40] <Smanly> We both are native english speakers, i assume.
#948 [04:40] <zzzz> my internet went out for the upteenth time in a few days
#949 [04:40] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: e.g me
#950 [04:40] <Smanly> Actually, I am not...
#951 [04:41] * Calinou isn't a native english speaker; he's french
#951 [04:41] <Calinou> AwayK, away nicks are bad mkay?
#952 [04:41] <Calinou> AwayK was kicked for being an away nick assclown.
#953 [04:41] <zzzz> i was lazy so i used their instant message help service
#954 [04:41] <zzzz> was so much better
#955 [04:41] <zzzz> anyway
#956 [04:41] <AwayK> shush I'm starting my bouncer you baffoon
#957 [04:41] <Arle> what's wrong with away nicks, Calinou?
#958 [04:41] <AwayK> :P
#959 [04:41] <Smanly> yeah?
#960 [04:41] <Calinou> clogs up the chat of course
#961 [04:41] <Smanly> But
#962 [04:41] <Calinou> away messages are even worse
#963 [04:41] <Smanly> Bouncers.
#964 [04:41] <auscompgeek> Calinou++
#965 [04:41] <tyteen4a03> I am fluent in english yet I am chinese
#966 [04:41] <Calinou> who gives a F about bouncers
#967 [04:42] <Smanly> Um
#968 [04:42] <Smanly> Those that use them?
#969 [04:42] <Calinou> I am mostly fluent in written english, I suck at spoken english
#970 [04:42] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: I give a C
#971 [04:42] <auscompgeek> Smanly: I use a bouncer, I don't use awaynick
#972 [04:42] <tyteen4a03> I don't really suck at spoken English, just not as fluent as native speakers (yet)
#973 [04:42] <Smanly> What do you do then?
#974 [04:42] <auscompgeek> Smanly: I just set an away message
#975 [04:43] * zzzz test
#975 [04:43] <zzzz> havnt irc'd in forevar
#976 [04:43] * zzzz is american. awkward
#976 [04:43] <skyboy> okay, so the error is happening during a block change, but the only way you can get a null pointer exception at that point is if something has gone horribly wrong
#977 [04:43] <Smanly> Ah, I dont even know how to tell if someone is away.
#978 [04:43] <zzzz> hahahahaha
#979 [04:43] <zzzz> i was guessing it was something of that sort
#980 [04:43] <zzzz> what sort of horribly wrong?
#981 [04:44] <skyboy> the world field is undefined
#982 [04:44] <zzzz> wat
#983 [04:44] <skyboy> according to the error, you are not present in any MC world.
#984 [04:44] <zzzz> well, that's awkward
#985 [04:44] <auscompgeek> Smanly: /who; /whois
#986 [04:45] <Smanly> Its teh server.
#987 [04:45] <auscompgeek> Smanly: most clients update their away lists automatically anyway
#988 [04:45] <zzzz> still no clue why its only me?
#989 [04:45] * tuna_ [tuna_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#990 [04:45] <zzzz> also, thanks a ton btw
#991 [04:45] <zzzz> no. go away. you reminded me i forgot to eat dinner
#992 [04:45] <Smanly> idk, just seems easier to just see it in the nick.
#993 [04:45] <skyboy> what's really weird is the bb.b call there is:
#994 [04:45] <zzzz> oh, sweet
#995 [04:46] <skyboy> TcpConnection.isServerTerminating
#996 [04:46] <skyboy> the client should always return false
#997 [04:46] <skyboy> not process anything
#998 [04:47] <zzzz> that just went way over my head. made me think of a .gif as well, but its not quite related
#999 [04:47] <zzzz> so the code the errors coming from shouldnt be executing unless the server's being shut down?
#1000 [04:48] <skyboy> apparently. but i checked that with MCPBot, and that might be behind
#1001 [04:48] <skyboy> according to the source mappings, however, the ee.a call is part of the server->client block updates
#1002 [04:50] <skyboy> and in the asu.a method, you have only one thing that can be null
#1003 [04:50] <skyboy> "this.worldClient" which means you're not in a world nor connected to the server
#1004 [04:50] <zzzz> are bb.b and ee.a methods?
#1005 [04:50] <skyboy> possibly related to that multiworld mod crap
#1006 [04:50] <skyboy> they have to be methods
#1007 [04:50] <skyboy> they're part of the stack trace
#1008 [04:51] <zzzz> also went fwoosh
#1009 [04:51] <zzzz> sorry
#1010 [04:51] <zzzz> i havnt touched code in a couple years lol
#1011 [04:51] <skyboy> well, your error is coming from somewhere that it doesn't make sense it should be coming from
#1012 [04:52] <zzzz> this conversation keeps making me think of jack sparrow for various reasons.
#1013 [04:52] <zzzz> then my brain keeps reading it in his voice... at least its keeping it interesting
#1014 [04:52] * ac3xx [ac3xx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1015 [04:52] <skyboy> well, if i had any rum, you might be in luck for that. but no, there is no rum
#1016 [04:53] <zzzz> ahhhh wtf imgur. you do to support .gif
#1017 [04:53] <skyboy> zzzz: maybe check #bukkit since that's the server that's going awry
#1018 [04:53] <zzzz> ok
#1019 [04:53] <zzzz> thanks a ton for the help
#1020 [04:54] <Smanly> yeah, imgur does gis
#1021 [04:54] <zzzz> i know, its being uncooperative
#1022 [04:54] <Smanly> nou
#1023 [04:55] <zzzz> i wish :(
#1024 [04:56] <zzzz> apparently the internet hates this gif
#1025 [04:57] <zzzz> here it is
#1026 [04:57] <zzzz> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm8i5bNwza1qeijvdo1_500.gif
#1027 [04:59] <zzzz> and the one i was reminded of earlier was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lloo8r9B9B1qabfx1o1_500.gif
#1028 [05:00] <zzzz> and with that, i think i'll call it a night.
#1029 [05:00] <Smanly> That gif is so freaking jerky
#1030 [05:00] <zzzz> stop bringing up food dammit
#1031 [05:00] <Smanly> Oh
#1032 [05:00] <zzzz> i dont care if i wake up my dad, im going to go eat
#1033 [05:00] <zzzz> lol
#1034 [05:01] <Smanly> Is he single by chance?
#1035 [05:01] <zzzz> ...no
#1036 [05:01] <zzzz> he is a doctor though
#1037 [05:01] <Smanly> Hmm...
#1038 [05:01] <zzzz> so double loss for you
#1039 [05:01] <zzzz> :P
#1040 [05:01] <Smanly> I dont know why, but ok.
#1041 [05:01] <zzzz> doctors make great partners
#1042 [05:01] <zzzz> because
#1043 [05:01] <zzzz> you know
#1044 [05:01] <zzzz> they tend to be loaded
#1045 [05:02] <Smanly> Right.
#1046 [05:02] <zzzz> also really smart
#1047 [05:02] <Smanly> Supposedly
#1048 [05:02] * Syndic [Syndic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1049 [05:02] <zzzz> well, i had to get it from somewhere and i doubt it was my mom
#1050 [05:03] <zzzz> anyway, i really do need to be getting to bed
#1051 [05:03] <Smanly> Yeah, she is pretty
#1052 [05:03] <Smanly> dumb
#1053 [05:03] <Smanly> k bye
#1054 [05:03] <zzzz> its funny because she's a doctor too but hey
#1055 [05:04] <zzzz> yea, i have a lunch date tomorrow
#1056 [05:04] <zzzz> its 4am
#1057 [05:04] <Smanly> Ok, see you tomorrow!
#1058 [05:04] <zzzz> its an early lunch date
#1059 [05:04] <zzzz> lolol
#1060 [05:04] <Smanly> Call me, maybe.
#1061 [05:04] <Smanly> Or smanly
#1062 [05:04] <zzzz> hahaha
#1063 [05:04] <Smanly> Yeah, call me Smanly
#1064 [05:04] <zzzz> ok maybe
#1065 [05:04] <Smanly> Damn
#1066 [05:04] <Smanly> kthanksbai
#1067 [05:04] <zzzz> so, hopefully this is goodbye
#1068 [05:04] <zzzz> peace
#1069 [05:19] * xarcus [xarcus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1070 [05:21] <xarcus> is that first link here with aubot saying the rules new or something?
#1071 [05:21] <xarcus> ok anyway here is my day 3 of trouble with port forwarding
#1072 [05:22] <xarcus> does anyone have experience with static ip in windows 7?
#1073 [05:22] <xarcus> everytime try it, suddenly I have no internet until I switch back to DHCP
#1074 [05:22] <Smanly> Um
#1075 [05:22] <Smanly> Do you mean getting a static local ip?
#1076 [05:22] <xarcus> yes
#1077 [05:23] <Smanly> Can you set it in the router instead?
#1078 [05:23] <xarcus> my IP the modem gave me is something like 192.168.1.2
#1079 [05:23] <Smanly> right
#1080 [05:23] <xarcus> sorry I am not familiar with a router
#1081 [05:23] <xarcus> here in the Netherlands I assume noone uses a router, a plain modem just has everything
#1082 [05:24] <sp1> xarcus: do a ipconfig /all
#1083 [05:24] <Smanly> Then.... how are you port forwarding.
#1084 [05:24] <xarcus> wait a second I'll take some screenshots
#1085 [05:24] <sp1> the make sure you enter up, netmask, dwfault gw and dns servers to make static settings work
#1086 [05:24] <Smanly> Of what?
#1087 [05:24] <sp1> uo = ip
#1088 [05:25] <xarcus> so I went to my modem with entering default gateway in firefox
#1089 [05:25] <xarcus> i logged in and went to DATA and then to NAT settings
#1090 [05:25] <xarcus> there you can add port to port forward
#1091 [05:25] * gg [gg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1092 [05:25] <gg> Hey
#1093 [05:26] <Smanly> Im guessing its a modem router combo.
#1094 [05:26] <xarcus> then there are only a few things you have to enter
#1095 [05:26] <Smanly> Does it have several ethernet ports?
#1096 [05:27] <xarcus> it looks like: LAN IP: [192.168.2.2] PROTOCOL TYPE: [TCP&UDP] LAN PORT: [25565] PUBLIC PORT: [25565] ENABLE: [YES]
#1097 [05:27] <gg> I cant break blocks.
#1098 [05:27] <xarcus> yes it has four ethernet ports
#1099 [05:28] <xarcus> where the third one is for tv, because we have hdtv over internet
#1100 [05:28] <xarcus> pretty cool, huh?
#1101 [05:28] <gg> I cant break blocks on minecraft.
#1102 [05:28] <xarcus> gg: are you on a server?
#1103 [05:28] <gg> No.
#1104 [05:29] <xarcus> gg: are you in hardcore mode?
#1105 [05:29] <gg> Nope.
#1106 [05:29] <gg> Survival.
#1107 [05:29] <xarcus> gg: do you have mods installed?
#1108 [05:29] <gg> Nope.
#1109 [05:29] <gg> Never used them.
#1110 [05:29] <Necrodoom> wait, you can place blocks but not break them, right?
#1111 [05:29] <gg> Just got the game.
#1112 [05:29] <xarcus> okay then i cant help you
#1113 [05:29] <Necrodoom> what happens exactly when you try to break?
#1114 [05:29] <gg> Well I haven't got blocks yet.
#1115 [05:30] <Necrodoom> oh, hm
#1116 [05:30] <gg> It just never breaks.
#1117 [05:30] <xarcus> Smanly: everything is set just right but I can't get static ip
#1118 [05:30] <Necrodoom> you using left click, on a dirt block?
#1119 [05:30] <gg> Yes.
#1120 [05:30] <Necrodoom> hold it, not spam it
#1121 [05:30] <gg> Ahhhh.
#1122 [05:30] <gg> That worked.
#1123 [05:30] <gg> :p
#1124 [05:30] <gg> ty
#1125 [05:30] <Necrodoom> np
#1126 [05:31] <Smanly> Yeah, its a router modem combo thing, xarcus. And I had IPTV too, lol.
#1127 [05:32] <Smanly> But about the static ip, I have never done it my self, but I know others who have.
#1128 [05:32] <xarcus> wo
#1129 [05:32] <xarcus> *who?
#1130 [05:32] <xarcus> because I can't get it to work
#1131 [05:33] <xarcus> seriously, last year when i had a super deluxe awesome server I managed to get it to work but now we've got a new modem and isn't working
#1132 [05:33] <gg> So I heard there is something called "greifing" in minecraft.
#1133 [05:33] <gg> What's that?
#1134 [05:34] <Smanly> is your internal ip changing?
#1135 [05:34] <xarcus> gg: Destroying other people's stuff to make them rage for fun
#1136 [05:34] <Smanly> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Grief
#1137 [05:34] <gg> Oh.
#1138 [05:34] <xarcus> Smanly: no, it is always 192.168.2.2 and always been so
#1139 [05:34] <gg> That sounds fucking amazing.
#1140 [05:34] * AuBot kicked gg from #minecrafthelp (Reason: g :Please keep it civil.)
#1141 [05:34] <Smanly> Are you just worried it might?
#1142 [05:34] <xarcus> might what?
#1143 [05:34] <Necrodoom> gotta hate aubot at times
#1144 [05:35] <Smanly> Change.
#1145 [05:35] <xarcus> no it has always been so
#1146 [05:35] <xarcus> it never changed
#1147 [05:35] <Smanly> Why are you trying to set a static one then?
#1148 [05:35] <xarcus> because i thought you were supposed to
#1149 [05:35] <Smanly> You dont need to.
#1150 [05:35] <xarcus> and because my server is not visible for others
#1151 [05:36] <Smanly> That is only if you internal IP is changing.
#1152 [05:36] <Smanly> Its mostly preventative.
#1153 [05:36] <Arle> Poor AuBot.
#1154 [05:36] * Lucky257_ [Lucky257_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1155 [05:36] <Lucky257_> Hey
#1156 [05:36] <Smanly> Hai
#1157 [05:36] <Arle> It should probably kick people who swear a lot, rather than just once.
#1158 [05:36] <Arle> Lucky257_, hi
#1159 [05:37] <Lucky257_> How do I join Team Avolition?
#1160 [05:37] <Smanly> That would require it to keep track, Arle. lol
#1161 [05:37] <xarcus> But do I need to add 25565 to my special mapping table?
#1162 [05:37] <Smanly> ./join #avo
#1163 [05:37] <Smanly> Mapping table?
#1164 [05:37] <Lucky257_> How do I join their team though?
#1165 [05:37] <Lucky257_> Like do epic hecks
#1166 [05:37] <Lucky257_> with them
#1167 [05:38] <Smanly> [04:25] * Joins: gg (~Lucky257@ool-43573dfc.dyn.optonline.net)
#1168 [05:38] <Smanly> Just saying
#1169 [05:38] * Arle did notice.
#1169 [05:38] <Lucky257_> That's cute.
#1170 [05:38] <Smanly> Yep
#1171 [05:38] * xarcus is testing the /me command
#1171 [05:38] <Lucky257_> But how do I join them?
#1172 [05:38] <Smanly> Obvious troll is blaringly obvious
#1173 [05:38] <xarcus> cool I never knew which command that was
#1174 [05:38] * Arle passes xarcus's test of the /me command.
#1174 [05:38] <Lucky257_> Like is there some application?
#1175 [05:39] * xarcus acknowledges pass of pass of my test of the /me command
#1175 [05:39] <Arle> lol
#1176 [05:39] <Smanly> Lucky, gtfo.
#1177 [05:39] <Lucky257_> You guys aren't very helpful.
#1178 [05:39] <Lucky257_> I thought this was the minecrafthelp channel.
#1179 [05:39] <Lucky257_> This is about minecraft.
#1180 [05:39] <Lucky257_> And I want to know how to join avolition.
#1181 [05:40] * Grimlock257 [Grimlock257@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1182 [05:40] <Smanly> Ok, well, you cant sign up for AVO, guy.
#1183 [05:40] <Lucky257_> And you guys won't help me.
#1184 [05:40] <Smanly> http://www.teamavolition.com/
#1185 [05:40] <Lucky257_> Then how could I get reliant?
#1186 [05:40] <Smanly> There, go nuts
#1187 [05:40] <xarcus> Lucky257_: indeed it is a help channel but we can't help you that much with that
#1188 [05:40] <xarcus> lol
#1189 [05:40] <Lucky257_> Shouldn't you guys be experts on all things minecraft?
#1190 [05:40] <Arle> yeah, you should probably try to talk with Team AVO.
#1191 [05:41] <Lucky257_> I have.
#1192 [05:41] <xarcus> Lucky257_: sort of
#1193 [05:41] <Lucky257_> They did let me get relaint.
#1194 [05:41] <Smanly> Like I said, you cant apply to join.
#1195 [05:41] <Lucky257_> After I gave them some exploits
#1196 [05:41] <Necrodoom> Lucky257_: people arent brainless
#1197 [05:41] <Lucky257_> Like a nocheat fly bypass.
#1198 [05:41] <Smanly> Have any other questions, Lucky257_?
#1199 [05:41] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#1200 [05:41] <xarcus> Lucky257_: but we (at least not me and/or you) are volunteers here
#1201 [05:41] <Lucky257_> Yes.
#1202 [05:41] <Necrodoom> agh
#1203 [05:41] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1204 [05:41] <xarcus> as read in the rules
#1205 [05:41] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1206 [05:42] <Lucky257_> Are their any people here that own a minecraft server.
#1207 [05:42] <xarcus> VoxelHead is a fast typer
#1208 [05:42] <Smanly> Im sure there are, Lucky257_.
#1209 [05:42] <xarcus> Lucky257_: Me
#1210 [05:42] <xarcus> (sort of)
#1211 [05:42] <Arle> Me, for instance.
#1212 [05:42] <Lucky257_> Could you please tell me you minecraft server ip?
#1213 [05:42] <Smanly> as do i.
#1214 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#1215 [05:42] <Smanly> Not in here we cant.
#1216 [05:42] <Necrodoom> Lucky257_: lol, no
#1217 [05:42] <Lucky257_> Could you give me a skype to contact?
#1218 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Lucky257_ - Go do your script kiddie stuff elsewhere
#1219 [05:43] <Arle> 1) I wouldn't tell you if I could, sorry. 2) it's not public.
#1220 [05:43] <Lucky257_> script kiddie.
#1221 [05:43] <xarcus> Lucky257_: This is irrelevant to this channel
#1222 [05:43] <Lucky257_> That's racist.
#1223 [05:43] <Smanly> Right
#1224 [05:43] <xarcus> That's not racist
#1225 [05:43] <Arle> actually, no, it isn't.
#1226 [05:43] <Necrodoom> guys, Lucky257_ is a troll
#1227 [05:43] <Lucky257_> It's very relevant.
#1228 [05:43] <xarcus> Neither are we trolling
#1229 [05:43] <Smanly> No herp, Necrodoom.
#1230 [05:43] * GreyVulpine kicked Lucky257_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ucky257_ :*yawn*)
#1231 [05:43] <xarcus> You're the troll
#1232 [05:43] <Smanly> Lol
#1233 [05:44] <tyteen4a03> lol, asking people to give their skypes
#1234 [05:44] <Necrodoom> xarcus: no dave, you are the troll
#1235 [05:44] <tyteen4a03> [17:43] * GreyVulpine sets mode: -o+b
#1236 [05:44] <tyteen4a03> what
#1237 [05:44] <Smanly> Im gonna guess a ban.
#1238 [05:44] <Arle> -o is deop, +b is ban.
#1239 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> deop and ban script
#1240 [05:45] <xarcus> I was talking about Lucky257_
#1241 [05:45] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: why deop?
#1242 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> He didn't have ops, script does that automatically
#1243 [05:45] <Smanly> cant ban ops im guessing.
#1244 [05:45] <tyteen4a03> I see
#1245 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to worry about.
#1246 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to see here, carry on.
#1247 [05:47] <xarcus> I got by tinypic the captcha "Lunatic fridge" lol
#1248 [05:47] <xarcus> http://tinypic.com/r/2ikxw8/6
#1249 [05:47] <xarcus> Smanly thats the other port mapping table
#1250 [05:49] <Smanly> Um, what is the other port settings look like?
#1251 [05:49] <xarcus> let me take a pic of that
#1252 [05:49] <Smanly> Ok.
#1253 [05:50] <xarcus> http://i47.tinypic.com/14b1deb.png
#1254 [05:51] <Smanly> Yeah, that looks right.
#1255 [05:51] <xarcus> appearantly mibbit fails to show the link, instead it tries to show the image but fails again, showing an empty square. Mibbit, I am dissapoint
#1256 [05:51] <Smanly> can you connect to the server?
#1257 [05:51] <xarcus> which server
#1258 [05:51] <xarcus> it is my server FYI
#1259 [05:51] <xarcus> on my computer
#1260 [05:51] <Smanly> Right
#1261 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. 2.2?
#1262 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> I'm afraid to ask... how many routers do you have in your house?
#1263 [05:52] <xarcus> 0
#1264 [05:52] <Smanly> Can you connect to it via your external ip?
#1265 [05:52] <xarcus> I have only 1 modem
#1266 [05:52] <Smanly> Its a router modem box.
#1267 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Go to the status page on that setup page. Find the public ip address listed there
#1268 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Compare it to a site like whatismyip.com -- make sure it matches
#1269 [05:52] <xarcus> excuse but from what place do you guys come from, thinking that a router-modem combo is so strange?
#1270 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> It's not strange.
#1271 [05:53] <xarcus> my computer can easily handle the server and client on the same machine
#1272 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> I've just seen multiple-layer NATs too often
#1273 [05:53] <xarcus> no i tried on my old server
#1274 [05:53] <xarcus> and I had to do 192.168 something something
#1275 [05:53] <Smanly> Erm, wat.
#1276 [05:53] <xarcus> I lost
#1277 [05:53] <Smanly> Do wat grey said.
#1278 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo. Work. Gotta run.
#1279 [05:54] <Smanly> adios.
#1280 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#1281 [05:54] <xarcus> bye
#1282 [05:54] <xarcus> I'm sorry Smanly, can you repeat what I gotto do 'cause I have no idea
#1283 [05:55] <xarcus> do you mean WAN IP?
#1284 [05:55] <Smanly> No
#1285 [05:55] <Smanly> The ip you would give to others.
#1286 [05:55] <xarcus> watismijnip.nl If I go to there, it is thesame as my WAN IP
#1287 [05:56] <xarcus> www.watismijnip.nl
#1288 [05:56] <Smanly> 192.168.2.2?
#1289 [05:56] <xarcus> mibbit y u no make link
#1290 [05:56] <xarcus> no it is something like 145.53.239.97
#1291 [05:56] <Smanly> Ok, that isnt you WAN ip, i dont think.
#1292 [05:56] <xarcus> but you guys already have my ip if I log into mibbit right?
#1293 [05:57] <Smanly> Um
#1294 [05:57] <Smanly> Not really.
#1295 [05:57] <xarcus> ok
#1296 [05:57] <xarcus> but what do i got to do now?
#1297 [05:57] <Smanly> Ok, can you connect via that IP?
#1298 [05:58] <xarcus> no my server is not running
#1299 [05:58] <Smanly> ..., start it?
#1300 [05:58] <xarcus> but it would be impossible to connect to WAN IP while running server via same modem
#1301 [05:58] <Smanly> Wat?
#1302 [05:59] <xarcus> I'd have to do 192.168.2.2 or something to connect to my computer from my brothers computer
#1303 [05:59] <Smanly> I think you are confused, and its making me confused.
#1304 [05:59] <xarcus> okay calm down I'll try
#1305 [05:59] <Smanly> Lol, im calm.
#1306 [05:59] <xarcus> but do I have to log in to my server from same machine or other one?
#1307 [05:59] <xarcus> or will you try?
#1308 [05:59] <Smanly> It doesnt matter.
#1309 [05:59] <xarcus> ok
#1310 [06:00] <xarcus> I have 4gb how much shall I dedicate?
#1311 [06:00] <xarcus> to server on win7?
#1312 [06:00] <xarcus> i think 1 will be fine
#1313 [06:00] <Smanly> Yeah
#1314 [06:00] <Smanly> Doesnt matter for what we are doing.
#1315 [06:00] <xarcus> up and running in 11 seconds
#1316 [06:01] <xarcus> starting mc...
#1317 [06:01] <xarcus> localhost is working
#1318 [06:02] <xarcus> but WAN IP not
#1319 [06:02] <Smanly> WAN means Wireless Area Network if im not mistaken.
#1320 [06:03] <auscompgeek> no.
#1321 [06:03] <auscompgeek> WAN is Wide Area Network
#1322 [06:03] <Smanly> Which is?
#1323 [06:03] <auscompgeek> wider than local ;)
#1324 [06:03] <Smanly> XD
#1325 [06:03] <Smanly> Hokay
#1326 [06:06] <skyboy> WLAN is what you were thinking of, Smanly
#1327 [06:06] <Smanly> Yeah that
#1328 [06:06] <Smanly> same thing
#1329 [06:06] <Smanly> :P
#1330 [06:06] <skyboy> nope, WAN is the entire internet (more or less) and WLAN is just the local area covered by the wireless signal
#1331 [06:08] * JavaFAIL [JavaFAIL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1332 [06:09] <JavaFAIL> Can annyone help me with a problem i got?
#1333 [06:10] <JavaFAIL> Annyone there?
#1334 [06:11] <JavaFAIL> I'm not going to find help at 6:11 in the morning, am I?
#1335 [06:11] <Smanly> one min
#1336 [06:11] <JavaFAIL> Oh, ok thanks
#1337 [06:11] <Smanly> helping someone else.
#1338 [06:12] <JavaFAIL> K thanks
#1339 [06:12] <xarcus> JavaFAIL: what's your problem?
#1340 [06:12] <JavaFAIL> Im haveing a problem with java
#1341 [06:12] <xarcus> which version?
#1342 [06:13] <JavaFAIL> The most recent one... i think
#1343 [06:13] <xarcus> 6 or 7?
#1344 [06:13] <xarcus> on windows?
#1345 [06:13] <JavaFAIL> ya, XP
#1346 [06:13] <xarcus> press [Windows] + [R]
#1347 [06:13] <Smanly> what is the problem?
#1348 [06:13] <xarcus> then type in CMD
#1349 [06:13] <xarcus> Smanly: he has some Java problems
#1350 [06:13] <JavaFAIL> ??? wait what
#1351 [06:14] <JavaFAIL> windows?
#1352 [06:14] <Smanly> the window key
#1353 [06:14] <xarcus> yes the windows key
#1354 [06:14] <xarcus> next to alt
#1355 [06:14] <xarcus> near Fn and Ctrl
#1356 [06:14] <JavaFAIL> ok the one that looks like a flag
#1357 [06:14] <xarcus> that 4-blocky thing
#1358 [06:14] <xarcus> yes
#1359 [06:15] <xarcus> done?
#1360 [06:15] <xarcus> does a black box appear?
#1361 [06:15] <JavaFAIL> i dont have a lab top got desk top
#1362 [06:15] <Smanly> doesnt matter.
#1363 [06:15] <xarcus> so ok, press [Windows]+[R], type CMD then [Enter]
#1364 [06:15] <JavaFAIL> hold on lag
#1365 [06:15] <xarcus> a black box appears, rite?
#1366 [06:15] <JavaFAIL> no
#1367 [06:16] <JavaFAIL> no wait run appers
#1368 [06:16] <xarcus> yes there you type in CMD
#1369 [06:16] <JavaFAIL> ok
#1370 [06:16] <JavaFAIL> k got it
#1371 [06:16] <xarcus> a black thing appears right?
#1372 [06:17] * xarcus is not racist
#1372 [06:17] <JavaFAIL> yup a black box with white letters showing a directory
#1373 [06:17] <xarcus> type in this: java -version
#1374 [06:17] <xarcus> what do you get
#1375 [06:17] * Grey [Grey@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1376 [06:17] <JavaFAIL> ok hold up a second
#1377 [06:18] * G [G@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1378 [06:18] <JavaFAIL> k did it
#1379 [06:18] <xarcus> what do you get?
#1380 [06:19] <xarcus> does it say "not an internal or external command" or the version of java?
#1381 [06:19] <JavaFAIL> it says the version is: 1.6.0_26
#1382 [06:19] <xarcus> your java is old, try new version http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=66210
#1383 [06:19] <JavaFAIL> kk
#1384 [06:20] <xarcus> the newer version 6
#1385 [06:20] <xarcus> don't try version 7 that one is still buggy
#1386 [06:20] <Smanly> orly?
#1387 [06:20] <xarcus> ya
#1388 [06:20] <xarcus> rly
#1389 [06:20] <Smanly> Im om 7 :/
#1390 [06:20] <xarcus> i heard lots of negative stuff about java 7
#1391 [06:20] <Smanly> I should try downgrading.
#1392 [06:20] <JavaFAIL> Download v.6 right
#1393 [06:21] <xarcus> install then restart computer, if it still fails, come back ok?
#1394 [06:21] <JavaFAIL> K ill come back if so... thanks.
#1395 [06:21] <xarcus> ok be :D
#1396 [06:21] <xarcus> *bye
#1397 [06:23] <JavaFAIL> FYI: The error says that "Could not create java vutual machie"
#1398 [06:23] <xarcus> ok
#1399 [06:23] <xarcus> after new install?
#1400 [06:24] <JavaFAIL> no before install i havent intalled it yet
#1401 [06:24] <xarcus> ok
#1402 [06:25] <Smanly> That happens normallly when too much ram is allocated.
#1403 [06:26] <auscompgeek> I have both JDK 6 & 7 installed, no problem here, I can always switch between them
#1404 [06:26] <Smanly> You mean manually?
#1405 [06:26] <Smanly> With a script or what have you?
#1406 [06:26] <xarcus> "too much ram" lol, he said he had lags in WINDOWS XP so I assume he has <2GB ram
#1407 [06:26] <xarcus> or even way less
#1408 [06:26] <xarcus> thats very little for minecraft
#1409 [06:27] <Smanly> some times givving less ram is better.
#1410 [06:27] <xarcus> yeah
#1411 [06:27] <Smanly> I give my client 256.
#1412 [06:27] <Smanly> :D
#1413 [06:28] <Calinou> 1GB ram to my mc client/server
#1414 [06:29] <Calinou> I have 12GB ram \o/
#1415 [06:29] <Smanly> I have 4 /o\
#1416 [06:30] * Lewes [Lewes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1417 [06:30] <Lewes> Hello
#1418 [06:30] <Smanly> welcome
#1419 [06:30] <Lewes> My friend has a problem
#1420 [06:30] <Smanly> ?? ask
#1421 [06:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1422 [06:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1423 [06:31] <Lewes> When he trys to update to 1.3.1 he gets this error: "Fatal Error Occuroured (4): /users/ricky/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar"
#1424 [06:31] <Lewes> Voxel, I was typing the question
#1425 [06:31] <Lewes> Just wait a minute or to before you come and complain
#1426 [06:31] <Smanly> Pastebin the entire error, Lewes.
#1427 [06:31] <Lewes> That is the error he gets
#1428 [06:31] <Smanly> Yeah, VoxelHead. chill out, guy.
#1429 [06:31] <Smanly> That is not the entier error.
#1430 [06:33] <Lewes> Where is the other errors then?
#1431 [06:34] <Lewes> Oh, its fixed :)
#1432 [06:34] <Lewes> Oh, its fixed :)
#1433 [06:34] * Lewes [Lewes@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1434 [06:34] <Smanly> ...ok
#1435 [06:38] <xarcus> I'm checking http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server to see if I haven't missed anything because I'm really not leaving until someone else is able to connect to my server.
#1436 [06:39] <Smanly> I dont think you have.
#1437 [06:40] <Smanly> Something is wrong with with either you modem.
#1438 [06:40] <Smanly> Or you have your ip's wrong/
#1439 [06:40] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1440 [06:40] <auscompgeek> xarcus' IP appears to be 145.53.239.97
#1441 [06:41] <xarcus> auscompgeek: thank you?
#1442 [06:41] <auscompgeek> xarcus: sure thing?
#1443 [06:41] <xarcus> that is my WAN IP
#1444 [06:41] <Smanly> I cant even ping it.
#1445 [06:41] <auscompgeek> xarcus: indeed
#1446 [06:41] <xarcus> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
#1447 [06:41] <auscompgeek> Smanly: router is probably blocking ICMP pings
#1448 [06:41] <xarcus> thats where I have to test it
#1449 [06:41] <Smanly> Hmph
#1450 [06:42] <auscompgeek> Smanly: most routers do anyway
#1451 [06:42] <Smanly> auscompgeek fix it pls
#1452 [06:42] <Smanly> kthnks
#1453 [06:42] <xarcus> http://mibpaste.com/pDmGKT here is a part of a log from my modem
#1454 [06:42] <xarcus> is it neccesary?
#1455 [06:43] <Smanly> the log?
#1456 [06:43] <xarcus> ya
#1457 [06:43] <Smanly> Not sure what any of those are.
#1458 [06:43] <xarcus> Still, the only thing I have not tried is static IP
#1459 [06:44] * KingOfChaos [KingOfChaos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1460 [06:44] * JavaFAIL [JavaFAIL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1461 [06:44] <KingOfChaos> #bukkit
#1462 [06:45] <Smanly> ok
#1463 [06:45] <JavaFAIL> Im back and it still won't work, I still have the same message...
#1464 [06:45] <xarcus> can someone please tell what I have to here to fill in for static IP http://tinypic.com/r/2qdr8f9/6
#1465 [06:45] <xarcus> JavaFAIL: are you sure you have latest video card drivers?
#1466 [06:46] <Smanly> How are you starting MC JavaFAIL?
#1467 [06:46] <JavaFAIL> I am simply opening the shortcut on the desk top.
#1468 [06:46] <Smanly> How much ram do you have?
#1469 [06:47] <JavaFAIL> How do i find that?
#1470 [06:47] <Smanly> ??> JavaFAIL dxdaig
#1471 [06:47] <Smanly> erm
#1472 [06:47] <JavaFAIL> I dint know how to find the ammout of ram
#1473 [06:47] <auscompgeek> ?? dxdiag
#1474 [06:47] <JavaFAIL> dont*
#1475 [06:48] <JavaFAIL> dxdiag?
#1476 [06:48] * xarcus is testing static IP configurations. Will log out incase internet connections fail
#1476 [06:48] <JavaFAIL> O! ok...
#1477 [06:48] <auscompgeek> hmmm.
#1478 [06:48] <JavaFAIL> Is that good...
#1479 [06:48] <auscompgeek> ??< index
#1480 [06:48] <Smanly> ??> JavaFAIL dxdiag
#1481 [06:49] <auscompgeek> Smanly: nope
#1482 [06:49] <Smanly> dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1483 [06:49] <Smanly> win/
#1484 [06:49] <Smanly> ??> win/dxdiag
#1485 [06:49] <JavaFAIL> Ok... On it...
#1486 [06:50] <Smanly> ??> auscompgeek win/dxdiag
#1487 [06:50] <VoxelHead> auscompgeek: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1488 [06:50] <Smanly> gah
#1489 [06:50] <VoxelHead> auscompgeek: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1490 [06:50] <auscompgeek> ah right.
#1491 [06:51] <JavaFAIL> Hold on still on the first step
#1492 [06:51] * xarcus [xarcus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1493 [06:52] <Smanly> wb
#1494 [06:52] <xarcus> Smanly; can you test if it works now? 145.53.239.97
#1495 [06:52] <Smanly> do it yourself :D
#1496 [06:52] <xarcus> I have established a Static IP
#1497 [06:53] <xarcus> i can't because I am on localhost
#1498 [06:53] <Smanly> If it wont work for you, it wont work for me.
#1499 [06:53] <Smanly> No, you can.
#1500 [06:53] <Smanly> I have dont it several times.
#1501 [06:53] <xarcus> if you are running server on same machine, you have to connect with localhost, not with server IP
#1502 [06:53] <Smanly> done it*
#1503 [06:54] <Smanly> try it
#1504 [06:54] <xarcus> nope doesn't work
#1505 [06:54] <Smanly> Ok, i will try. wont work though.
#1506 [06:54] <JavaFAIL> Here it is: http://pastebin.com/cRjCBQ6m
#1507 [06:54] <Smanly> .mcping 145.53.239.97
#1508 [06:55] <Smanly> !check 145.53.239.97
#1509 [06:55] <Smanly> :/
#1510 [06:55] <JavaFAIL> Yay i just sent all my computer data to someone with the potetal to hack it!!! (Not that they will)
#1511 [06:55] <Smanly> not that we can with that info, lol.
#1512 [06:56] <Smanly> Waht
#1513 [06:56] <zen> JavaFAIL, nothing in a dxdiag gives us any way of gaining control of your PC
#1514 [06:56] <Smanly> 958mb
#1515 [06:56] <JavaFAIL> Oh! ok! will now i feel better!
#1516 [06:56] <JavaFAIL> well*
#1517 [06:56] <Smanly> Am i reading this wrong or does he have 1gb of ram?
#1518 [06:56] <zen> omg you use the same CPU as me \o/
#1519 [06:56] <xarcus> Smanly: Didn't I tell you
#1520 [06:57] <xarcus> lol
#1521 [06:57] <JavaFAIL> I dont know...
#1522 [06:57] <xarcus> !check 145.53.239.97
#1523 [06:57] <xarcus> gogo AuBot
#1524 [06:57] <Smanly> JavaFAIL Your computer is beyond outdated.
#1525 [06:57] <zen> JavaFAIL, however your computers spec is no where near what it needs to be for minecraft
#1526 [06:58] <JavaFAIL> This computer was put together "coustum" by a german dude for my mom...
#1527 [06:58] <zen> Smanly, it's not too bad, it can be upgraded quite easily :) i run minecraft on an identical CPU however i have more ram and a better graphics card
#1528 [06:58] <Smanly> In 1999?
#1529 [06:58] <JavaFAIL> Have no clue...
#1530 [06:58] <Smanly> Yeah, but at that point its much better to buy a new one.
#1531 [06:58] <JavaFAIL> Cupple years ago..
#1532 [06:59] <zen> JavaFAIL, The system however is outdated if you paid any more than $100 on it then you have been ripped off
#1533 [06:59] <JavaFAIL> I've told my mom this and she still refuses to get a new one...
#1534 [07:00] <JavaFAIL> You have just backed up my argument... lol
#1535 [07:00] <zen> JavaFAIL, yes thought it might be the case, you must persuade her that a PC you buy today will start up 100 times faster than the one she has
#1536 [07:00] <xarcus> wait you have 958MB of RAM, 2 GB too less for Minecraft. Your VRAM (graphics) are 64MB. That's not even enough to run Hitman 2 properly. Your computer is really old I assume, since it has a Pentium 4M series on it. Those are from 2002. That's really outdated.
#1537 [07:01] <zen> xarcus, i run minecraft on a P4 cpu don't slate it too much ;)
#1538 [07:02] <Smanly> here is mine http://pastebin.com/2K5e7TWM :/
#1539 [07:02] <xarcus> P4's are still beast in overclocking. My friend managed to get 6GHz with extreme cooling. Don't ask how.
#1540 [07:02] <JavaFAIL> It was running before ok.. I had to run it on TINY veiw distance and it still was laggy...
#1541 [07:02] <xarcus> But hey, my CPU is just as bas as JavaFAIL's. I have a Celeron T3300
#1542 [07:03] <xarcus> and it really is very very bad and slow.
#1543 [07:03] <JavaFAIL> Thanks for showing me up... (jokeing)
#1544 [07:03] <zen> JavaFAIL, you have the option of making minecraft use less ram which will improve performance
#1545 [07:03] <xarcus> no I mean not really bad, those CPU's just aren't so modern anymore. Atleast not for very heavy games
#1546 [07:04] <zen> I got minecraft running at 20fps on a netbook, intel atom 1GHz, 1GB ram :)
#1547 [07:04] <JavaFAIL> But I first need to gut MC running. Don't I?
#1548 [07:04] <Smanly> He cant even start it, lol.
#1549 [07:04] <xarcus> I got MC running with 8 FPS on 1,6GHz and 22 FPS with OptiFine mod
#1550 [07:04] <JavaFAIL> Yes its said...
#1551 [07:05] <zen> xarcus, oh i forgot to say i had optifine :3
#1552 [07:05] <JavaFAIL> I cant even get to the title screen annymore
#1553 [07:05] <Smanly> You can either start it with a .bat or get Magiclauncher.
#1554 [07:06] <JavaFAIL> I got ML and i cant start that ether... i think
#1555 [07:06] <Smanly> You need to change the ram settings.
#1556 [07:06] <zen> JavaFAIL, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG-GhI2BZ4c but instead of -Xms1024M -Xmx2048M use -Xms256 -Xmx512M
#1557 [07:06] <JavaFAIL> Hold on nlet me start it...
#1558 [07:06] <JavaFAIL> let*
#1559 [07:07] <Smanly> Also, you would need to close basicly anything you have running to play.
#1560 [07:08] * FLHerne [FLHerne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1561 [07:08] <JavaFAIL> Ya. I closed the internet, steam, and even considerd turing off AVG. Decided that would have too bad of reprocustions... lol
#1562 [07:10] <JavaFAIL> I dealeted ML. im redownloading it...
#1563 [07:11] <Smanly> Uh, ok.
#1564 [07:12] * Necrodoom [Necrodoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1565 [07:13] * amokka [amokka@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1566 [07:14] <zen> Aw he left
#1567 [07:14] * JavaFAIL [JavaFAIL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1568 [07:15] <JavaFAIL> FireFox Crashed
#1569 [07:15] <zen> ahh good JavaFAIL it is easily possible to build a computer for $300
#1570 [07:15] <zen> That will be as fast as all the ready built PC's you see in shops
#1571 [07:16] <JavaFAIL> Thanks for tilling me that... do i just buy the parts
#1572 [07:17] <JavaFAIL> parts? do i buy em'?
#1573 [07:18] <Smanly> What else would you do?
#1574 [07:18] <zen> Er yes, asuming you are in the US the site you want to buy from is newegg.com
#1575 [07:19] <JavaFAIL> Well that is convenient: im in the us...
#1576 [07:19] <JavaFAIL> K... ill check this out! lso ive got the magic launcher... what can i do to lower the ram usage
#1577 [07:21] <JavaFAIL> Also*
#1578 [07:21] <zen> er magiclauncher should have options for assigning ram
#1579 [07:21] <JavaFAIL> ok
#1580 [07:22] <JavaFAIL> Where can i find this in the luancher
#1581 [07:22] <zen> Um i am unsure i haven't used it myself
#1582 [07:22] <zen> you might want to go look at the minecraft forum page for it
#1583 [07:22] <JavaFAIL> oh.. ok
#1584 [07:22] <zen> It should have some more informations
#1585 [07:25] <Smanly> its in the advanced tab
#1586 [07:25] <Smanly> when in setup.
#1587 [07:28] <JavaFAIL> Well you all have helped alot! I came here expecting to have you fix a coding error but I come out with the knowlage that: 1)My computer is outdated. 2) Where to get new computer parts. 3)There is a bigger mincraft community then I thoght. Thanks alot! Oh and one more question: when will the next update for the X-BOX 360 v. come out and what will it contain?
#1588 [07:29] <JavaFAIL> minecraft*
#1589 [07:29] <zen> JavaFAIL, we can't say anything about when updates occur
#1590 [07:29] <zen> with mojang it seems to be whenever they feel like it
#1591 [07:30] <zen> As for the 360 edition it's whenever the company they have given the task to has the next version ready
#1592 [07:30] <JavaFAIL> Oh... ok... lol... Thanks again... good bye...
#1593 [07:30] <Smanly> adios
#1594 [07:30] <zen> Bye, good luck :)
#1595 [07:30] <Smanly> I think I should go off to bed aswell. :/
#1596 [07:34] <Smanly> Adios! o/
#1597 [07:38] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1598 [07:43] * xarcus [xarcus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1599 [07:43] <xarcus> Smanly, are you there?
#1600 [07:43] <xarcus> nope appearantly he left
#1601 [07:44] <xarcus> I contacted my ISP and he said the modem configurations were ok and all I needed to enable were the UPnP IDG
#1602 [07:45] <xarcus> !check 145.53.239.97
#1603 [07:46] * ROGRAUWN [ROGRAUWN@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1604 [07:46] <ROGRAUWN> hi, i cant get the single player commands to work, some help?
#1605 [07:47] <xarcus> which version do you have?
#1606 [07:47] <ROGRAUWN> 1.3.1
#1607 [07:47] <zen> ??> ROGRAUWN mods
#1608 [07:47] <VoxelHead> ROGRAUWN: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1609 [07:47] <VoxelHead> ROGRAUWN: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1610 [07:47] <ROGRAUWN> nah, the new commands
#1611 [07:47] <ROGRAUWN> god
#1612 [07:47] <ROGRAUWN> the single player ones, that came with the new update
#1613 [07:47] <ROGRAUWN> not a mod.
#1614 [07:47] <xarcus> well I can't help you with that
#1615 [07:48] <zen> you had cheats enabled when you made the world?
#1616 [07:48] <xarcus> I can, but I'm not allowed
#1617 [07:48] <xarcus> I think
#1618 [07:48] <xarcus> but SPC does not support 1.3.1 yet
#1619 [07:48] <xarcus> stick with 1.2.5
#1620 [07:48] <zen> xarcus, 1.3.1 added limited commands to single player
#1621 [07:48] <ROGRAUWN> so for exampleif i wanted a bow, what command would i type to "get bow"
#1622 [07:49] <zen> give
#1623 [07:49] <ROGRAUWN> yeah, i already updated it though
#1624 [07:49] <zen> all the commands are listed on the wiki
#1625 [07:49] <xarcus> zen - why? that's why we have SPC right?
#1626 [07:49] <ROGRAUWN> thank you
#1627 [07:49] <ROGRAUWN> .
#1628 [07:49] * xarcus is leaving for lunch
#1628 [07:49] <zen> xarcus, because SPC is a mod, but mojang implemented limited functionality of it in vanilla
#1629 [07:49] * hdon_ [hdon_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1630 [07:50] <xarcus> ok brb
#1631 [07:53] * Dieter999 [Dieter999@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1632 [07:53] * Dieter999 [Dieter999@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1633 [07:55] * Dieter999 [Dieter999@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1634 [07:55] * Dieter999 [Dieter999@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1635 [07:56] * Gomm [Gomm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1636 [07:57] * xdRetro [xdRetro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1637 [07:57] <xdRetro> Hello
#1638 [07:57] <xdRetro> I've a question..
#1639 [07:58] <xdRetro> Where can I download the serversoftware for 1.3.1?
#1640 [07:58] <Calinou> *_*
#1641 [07:58] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#1642 [07:58] <Calinou> vanilla server jar ^
#1643 [07:58] <xdRetro> Thank you :)
#1644 [07:58] <xdRetro> Coudn't find it :3
#1645 [07:58] <xdRetro> Couldn't*
#1646 [08:00] <Calinou> inb4 "how do i run it"
#1647 [08:00] <Gomm> Do any one know why i get this massage when trying to join my friend's server : Java.net.UknownHostException: session.minecraft.net - Java is full updated :(
#1648 [08:00] <Calinou> Gomm, O_o
#1649 [08:00] <Calinou> what opearting system is your friend on?
#1650 [08:00] <Calinou> did he forward ports? (if not a LAN server)
#1651 [08:02] <Gomm> Using program "hamachi" to join hes server - that worked fine for few months ago - but now it doesnt :/
#1652 [08:02] <Calinou> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1653 [08:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1654 [08:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1655 [08:03] <Gomm> oh ... i will try that :D thanks for your time :)
#1656 [08:06] * g [g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1657 [08:15] * woodtech [woodtech@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1658 [08:20] * general [general@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1659 [08:21] * xarcus is back from lunchbreak
#1659 [08:34] * elephantstigers [elephantstigers@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1660 [08:34] <elephantstigers> is there anyway to get the 1.2.5 version?
#1661 [08:35] <elephantstigers> My son has Flan's mods and accidentally agreed to update to 1.3.1 and now the mods aren't working
#1662 [08:35] <elephantstigers> I have tried to restore previous versions but it doesn't work and my computer will not do a system restore
#1663 [08:39] <zen> ??> elephantstigers oldversion
#1664 [08:39] <VoxelHead> elephantstigers: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1665 [08:40] <elephantstigers> i am totally new to the world of mods - will there eventually be an update to the mod that will allow it to work with 1.3.1?
#1666 [08:41] <elephantstigers> and do most people with mods just know to keep the older version and not update?
#1667 [08:41] <zen> elephantstigers, generally when modding it's good to take a backup of the jar before actually applying the mods,
#1668 [08:41] <zen> Also it's all down to the author of the mod weather they update
#1669 [08:43] <elephantstigers> thank you for your help - a lesson learned the hard way.
#1670 [08:45] <elephantstigers> just to check - when i go to the MCNostalgia tool and download that how does it know which "older" version i want to play
#1671 [08:46] * Zzjoxx [Zzjoxx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1672 [08:46] <zen> elephantstigers, you tell it what you want
#1673 [08:49] * Snowy [Snowy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1674 [08:50] <elephantstigers> thank you very much - will i need to somehow "save" the progress and worlds that have been created? i mean, when i put the old version back on will it erase all of the old data?
#1675 [08:51] <zen> No it will only patch back the games binaries, your saves are not touched
#1676 [08:52] <Snowy> Hi - wonder if someone can help - thanks - trying to set-up demo on my mac, downloaded on, opens Launcher ok, registers name ok - however i then enter User name/Password - get message User not premium but the "Demo' button is greyed out and blank - so all i get is "Try again" and so I loop around .. thanks for any advice.
#1677 [08:52] <Snowy> Hi - wonder if someone can help - thanks - trying to set-up demo on my mac, downloaded on, opens Launcher ok, registers name ok - however i then enter User name/Password - get message User not premium but the "Demo' button is greyed out and blank - so all i get is "Try again" and so I loop around .. thanks for any advice.
#1678 [08:52] * elephantstigers [elephantstigers@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1679 [08:53] <zen> Snowy, there seems to be a few problems with the demo version at the moment Not entirely sure why it is happening
#1680 [08:54] <Snowy> thanks Zen, so you're saying it's a problem at Minecraft server end that others are also experiencing - not just my mac?
#1681 [08:54] <Arle> It's buggy.
#1682 [08:55] <zen> Snowy, i have seen a couple off different problems, the greyed out problem might be to do with mac, however there are other problems on other platforms too
#1683 [08:55] <Arle> Apparently (I can't confirm this, this is what I've heard here) someone with a premium account needs to have already downloaded the game on that computer before the demo will work.
#1684 [08:55] <xarcus> It is Day 3, attempt #29 to get my minecraft server working. Description: Get new bukkit files..
#1685 [08:55] <xarcus> Food resources running low
#1686 [08:56] <Snowy> thanks Arle, sounds bit rubbish if that is really the case - not real demo
#1687 [08:56] <zen> Arle, that seems to be a windows problem atm
#1688 [08:56] <zen> Snowy, it's a bug, it's not meant to do that
#1689 [08:56] <zen> Not this feature has only been out for 4 days
#1690 [08:57] <Snowy> thanks Zen, so bug with Minecraft that hopefully they fix - so not worth me trying to download again etc
#1691 [08:58] <zen> Snowy, if you have a friend that plays you can always get them to show you what it is like :)
#1692 [08:58] <Snowy> thanks zen
#1693 [09:00] <xarcus> It is incredibly difficult to get this modem to port forward. The ports are open, unleash the potential fury de data and let there be a proper connection. How long, oh how long do I need to suffer on this, darned setup. Why oh why is there no simple indication of what I've done wrong, modem, why do you not trigger the ports?
#1694 [09:01] <zen> you on broadband?
#1695 [09:01] <xarcus> me?
#1696 [09:01] <zen> yes
#1697 [09:01] <xarcus> yes I think so
#1698 [09:01] <xarcus> don't know really
#1699 [09:01] <zen> speedtest.net
#1700 [09:01] <zen> See how fast your internet is
#1701 [09:03] <Zzjoxx> When i going to join a server The message which comes up "Java.net.socketexception: invalid argument: getsockname failed what to do?
#1702 [09:03] <xarcus> Downloadspeed 7,8MBps Uploadspeed 0,8MBps and all this with my MC server running
#1703 [09:03] <zen> xarcus, yeah thats broadband :p
#1704 [09:03] <xarcus> is it fast?
#1705 [09:03] * alhadhrami [alhadhrami@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1706 [09:03] <zen> Zzjoxx, hmmm not seen that one before,
#1707 [09:03] <alhadhrami> Hello
#1708 [09:03] <zen> xarcus, er it will do
#1709 [09:04] <alhadhrami> Anyone here to help me please?
#1710 [09:04] <zen> hello alhadhrami
#1711 [09:04] <zen> ??> alhadhrami ask
#1712 [09:04] <VoxelHead> alhadhrami: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1713 [09:04] <VoxelHead> alhadhrami: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1714 [09:04] <xarcus> alhadhrami: what is your problem?
#1715 [09:04] <xarcus> Thank you VoxelHead for the info
#1716 [09:04] <zen> ??> Zzjoxx win/reinst
#1717 [09:04] <VoxelHead> Zzjoxx: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1718 [09:04] <VoxelHead> Zzjoxx: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1719 [09:04] <alhadhrami> I want to play the demo. I've downloaded the client and made an account. What's next?
#1720 [09:04] <zen> alhadhrami, try logging into the game
#1721 [09:05] <alhadhrami> I run OS X Mountain Lion
#1722 [09:05] <zen> it will say user not premium, then off you to play the demo
#1723 [09:05] <alhadhrami> I did. And the option for playing the demo is not there, it states "not downloaded"
#1724 [09:05] * Zzjoxx [Zzjoxx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1725 [09:06] <alhadhrami> What do I do?
#1726 [09:06] <zen> alhadhrami, gah, okay There is a lot of problems with the demo version it seems atm, especially arround macs
#1727 [09:07] <zen> as it has only been out for 4 days there are still a few problems that were unforseen
#1728 [09:07] <alhadhrami> So I should just sit back and wait?
#1729 [09:07] <zen> alhadhrami, unfortunately theres not much else you can do, short of getting a friend to login to a paid account to download the files
#1730 [09:08] <alhadhrami> but I don't have a friend who bought it, unfortunately. :(
#1731 [09:09] <Rikairchy> :(
#1732 [09:09] <zen> Going to have to wait till next week for Marc to come one so we can inform him of the problems
#1733 [09:09] * zzjoxx_ [zzjoxx_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1734 [09:10] <alhadhrami> Sure
#1735 [09:10] <alhadhrami> Thanks so much for the help. :)
#1736 [09:11] <alhadhrami> Laters...
#1737 [09:12] <zzjoxx_> what should i do when it pops up java.net.socketexeption: invalid argument: get sock name failed. what to do?
#1738 [09:13] <zen> zzjoxx_, seems like a bad install
#1739 [09:13] <zen> ??> zzjoxx_ win/reinst
#1740 [09:14] <VoxelHead> zzjoxx_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1741 [09:14] <VoxelHead> zzjoxx_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1742 [09:16] * xarcus is getting some help from #bukkit
#1742 [09:17] * Jonah [Jonah@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1743 [09:22] <zzjoxx_> after have done as i was told the message is fatal error occured (4) invalid argument:get sockname failed???
#1744 [09:25] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1745 [09:30] <zzjoxx_> VoxelHead after have done as i was told the message is fatal error occured (4) invalid argument:get sockname failed???
#1746 [09:38] <zzjoxx_> i need help
#1747 [09:55] <Calinou> lol
#1748 [10:08] * Arle [Arle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1749 [10:14] * CJ768 [CJ768@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1750 [10:14] <CJ768> Can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/atyg7A4W
#1751 [10:15] * ninjakitty2 [ninjakitty2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1752 [10:15] <lutzee> Looks like the game ran out of memory
#1753 [10:15] <CJ768> really? Crazy lag spike then
#1754 [10:15] <woodtech> dunno if the game tried to write on the hard drive?
#1755 [10:15] <CJ768> I just frezes and crashes
#1756 [10:15] <CJ768> I just frezes and crashes
#1757 [10:15] * ninjakitty2 [ninjakitty2@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1758 [10:16] <lutzee> ??> CJ768 win/dxdiag
#1759 [10:16] <VoxelHead> CJ768: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1760 [10:16] <VoxelHead> CJ768: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1761 [10:17] <CJ768> Sure one sec
#1762 [10:18] <CJ768> http://pastebin.com/pD90pYtm
#1763 [10:19] <lutzee> odd 6gb of ram should not crash the game
#1764 [10:19] <lutzee> so i blame bad java install
#1765 [10:19] <lutzee> reinstall java
#1766 [10:21] <CJ768> 32 or 64? I have 64 bit machine
#1767 [10:21] <lutzee> 64 bit if you have a 64 bit machine
#1768 [10:21] <lutzee> always get 64bit if availible
#1769 [10:21] <CJ768> ok
#1770 [10:21] * sokarril [sokarril@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1771 [10:22] <sokarril> I've got trouble with minecraft since i've updated my graphic's card drivers. When I try to start minecraft, it closes with the message "LoadLibrary failed with error 998". Any ideas?
#1772 [10:25] <lutzee> sokarril, not seen that before let me do some digging
#1773 [10:25] * xarcus [xarcus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1774 [10:25] <lutzee> sokarril, do you have a 64bit computer?
#1775 [10:25] <xarcus> I'm back
#1776 [10:29] * [THC]Fibonacci [[THC]Fibonacci@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1777 [10:36] * crazy [crazy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1778 [10:36] <crazy> I never got a email to verify my account
#1779 [10:37] <lutzee> crazy, you are sure you put in the correct email address?
#1780 [10:37] <crazy> yes how do i get it resent
#1781 [10:37] <sokarril> Yeah I've got a 64bit computer
#1782 [10:38] <sokarril> I tried installing Java 64bits and 32bits and none work
#1783 [10:38] <lutzee> sokarril, uninstall all java, then install just 64bit version
#1784 [10:38] * [THC]Fibonacci [[THC]Fibonacci@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1785 [10:39] <sokarril> I'll try
#1786 [10:42] <sokarril> Ok, all Java uninstalled. Installing Java 64bit now
#1787 [10:44] * Mattheous [Mattheous@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1788 [10:44] <sokarril> Java 64bit installed. Launching minecraft..
#1789 [10:44] <CJ768> Is there any good way to speed up my MC? I Use MultiMC, I have Optifine, Never get my RAM useage above 40%... ANything?
#1790 [10:45] <sokarril> It worked! Thanks! (:
#1791 [10:45] <woodtech> CJ768: did you enable opengl (if possible)
#1792 [10:45] <woodtech> see video settings
#1793 [10:45] <Mattheous> Spout says my graphics card doesn't support open gl 2.0 but it does and I really want shaders
#1794 [10:46] <CJ768> How do I enable openGL?
#1795 [10:46] <woodtech> press escape while in game, or select options in the main menu I believe
#1796 [10:46] <CJ768> Adavanced OpenGl?
#1797 [10:46] <woodtech> yeah
#1798 [10:46] <CJ768> Nope
#1799 [10:46] <CJ768> should I?
#1800 [10:46] <woodtech> it speed up at least on mine (or I believe so)
#1801 [10:47] <woodtech> just play a bit with the settings
#1802 [10:47] <lutzee> the advanced openGL should increase FPS a fair bit
#1803 [10:47] <CJ768> Ok I'll try it
#1804 [10:47] <Mattheous> Do you guys know why it says that i cant use shaders
#1805 [10:47] <Mattheous> i have open gl 2.0 support but it just tells me i need 2.0 support
#1806 [10:47] <CJ768> I just sit and watch the F3 menu and it spikes all the time for no reason
#1807 [10:47] <lutzee> ??> Mattheous win/dxdiag
#1808 [10:47] <VoxelHead> Mattheous: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1809 [10:47] <VoxelHead> Mattheous: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1810 [10:48] <CJ768> I think OpenGL is making my MC worse...
#1811 [10:49] <woodtech> CJ768: most of the settings makes the game run faster as well if they are disabled, depending on the setting this can have heuge or almost no effect
#1812 [10:50] <woodtech> though like particles, you loose some visual feedback as well
#1813 [10:50] <Mattheous> http://pastebin.com/vP6FSYSs
#1814 [10:50] <lutzee> woodtech, note you can only turn particles down in vanilla, you need optifine to turn them off ;)
#1815 [10:51] <woodtech> true :-)
#1816 [10:51] <woodtech> I just don't have the memory to start mc now
#1817 [10:51] <lutzee> Mattheous, your PC will not have the capability to run shaders anyway
#1818 [10:51] <lutzee> your FPS will be horrible
#1819 [10:52] <Mattheous> Do you guys know if a Dell inspiron 17r would run it
#1820 [10:52] <lutzee> If it is a laptop very unlikely, unless it is a gaming based laptop
#1821 [10:53] <Mattheous> It has 2.4ghz and 4gb ram but if i upgrade ram to 8gb would that work?
#1822 [10:53] <woodtech> Mattheous: I guess you have to try it
#1823 [10:53] <woodtech> if your laptop has an onboard graphic chip, it might run pretty well
#1824 [10:53] <Mattheous> But im not sure if intel hd graphics 300 would be compatible
#1825 [10:53] <woodtech> I have a computer with slightly more memory and cpu and works fine
#1826 [10:53] <Mattheous> 3000*
#1827 [10:53] <lutzee> woodtech, no you want dedicated graphics
#1828 [10:54] <Mattheous> like nvidia?
#1829 [10:54] <lutzee> Yes
#1830 [10:54] <Mattheous> oh ok
#1831 [10:54] <woodtech> *onboard dedicated graphics :p
#1832 [10:54] <Mattheous> would it be possible to install graphics on a laptop
#1833 [10:54] <woodtech> onboard chipcs in the cpu might indeed not work well
#1834 [10:54] <woodtech> *chips
#1835 [10:55] <lutzee> intel hd 3000 is odd
#1836 [10:55] <lutzee> it's sort of on the CPU but has to be matched with the right intel mobo chipset
#1837 [10:57] <Mattheous> What would be a good nvidia geforce graphics card but not too expensive?
#1838 [10:57] <Rikairchy> GT 430 is amazing yet cheap
#1839 [10:57] <Mattheous> kk
#1840 [10:57] <Rikairchy> Mattheous: what country are you from?
#1841 [10:57] <lutzee> but no longer produced
#1842 [10:57] <Mattheous> i will look into that
#1843 [10:57] <Mattheous> Northern Ireland
#1844 [10:57] <Calinou> protip: 9600gt === 440gt
#1845 [10:58] <Rikairchy> lutzee: i just bought the card a month ago
#1846 [10:58] <Calinou> just 50 euros cheaper
#1847 [10:58] <Calinou> :p
#1848 [10:58] <Calinou> <lutzee> Mattheous, your PC will not have the capability to run shaders anyway
#1849 [10:58] <Calinou> just: "lol, shaders in java" < same thing
#1850 [10:58] <Calinou> if you want performance at the cost of price: 560ti
#1851 [10:58] <Calinou> it's like 250 euros
#1852 [10:58] <Calinou> but it's definitely worth it :P
#1853 [10:58] <Rikairchy> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130579
#1854 [10:58] <Mattheous> kk
#1855 [10:58] <lutzee> northern ireland... he's on the pound i believe
#1856 [10:59] <Rikairchy> thats the card I bought
#1857 [10:59] <Mattheous> £s all the way!
#1858 [10:59] <lutzee> Mattheous, look on dabs.com
#1859 [10:59] <Rikairchy> nah
#1860 [10:59] <Rikairchy> $
#1861 [10:59] <Mattheous> I need one for a laptop not a desktop
#1862 [10:59] <Rikairchy> you can't
#1863 [10:59] <lutzee> you need a desktop
#1864 [10:59] <Rikairchy> laptops are not upgradeable, graphics-wise
#1865 [11:00] <Mattheous> I know it sounds gay but you i dont have enough sockits for a tower pc
#1866 [11:00] <Rikairchy> all you can upgrade is the motherboard, wireless NIC, RAM, hard drive, CPU and CD-drive,
#1867 [11:00] <Mattheous> You serious?
#1868 [11:00] <Rikairchy> yes
#1869 [11:00] <lutzee> Mattheous, get a 3 plug adapter then
#1870 [11:00] <Rikairchy> the motherboard and graphics are not upgradeable if the graphics are integrated
#1871 [11:00] <Mattheous> Well then i would be plugging more into the adapter
#1872 [11:00] <lutzee> asuming NI is on the standard UK 3 pin
#1873 [11:01] <Rikairchy> what adapter?
#1874 [11:01] <Mattheous> ni is the 3 pin yes
#1875 [11:01] <Mattheous> Right let me explain
#1876 [11:01] <lutzee> Rikairchy, power plug adapeter to allow 3 plugs into one wall socket
#1877 [11:01] <Rikairchy> ohhh
#1878 [11:01] <Rikairchy> a splitter
#1879 [11:01] <Rikairchy> why not just buy a surge bar
#1880 [11:02] <Mattheous> i have got a tower, moniter, printer, laptop in the power adapter
#1881 [11:02] <lutzee> Rikairchy, surge bar? O.o
#1882 [11:02] <Rikairchy> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882379018
#1883 [11:02] <Rikairchy> something similar to that
#1884 [11:02] <Mattheous> the otherplug has a router and a outreach modem for bt infinity
#1885 [11:02] <Mattheous> thats it
#1886 [11:02] <Rikairchy> http://www.bluecrest.net/files/6212/5662/0408/Picture2.png
#1887 [11:02] <Mattheous> im not plugging more adapters into one
#1888 [11:02] <Rikairchy> no
#1889 [11:03] <Rikairchy> you aren't supposed to
#1890 [11:03] <Rikairchy> as it'll overload the first one
#1891 [11:03] <Mattheous> because i do have the risk of my house burning down
#1892 [11:03] <Rikairchy> exactly
#1893 [11:04] * Necrodoom [Necrodoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1894 [11:04] <Mattheous> Well my new laptops coming on wednesday and i will test and see if it works and if it doesnt.......... ill go cry in a corner
#1895 [11:04] <lutzee> have the wall socket split into two by an electrician :)
#1896 [11:05] <Rikairchy> Mattheous: link?
#1897 [11:05] <Rikairchy> to the new laptop
#1898 [11:05] <Mattheous> kk
#1899 [11:05] <lutzee> you are always drawing on the ringmain, which should have an RCD on the circuit breaker board to protect stuff
#1900 [11:05] <Mattheous> Can i tell you the specs cause i got it off dell outlet
#1901 [11:06] <Rikairchy> yes
#1902 [11:07] <Rikairchy> is it a dedicated or integrated graphics card?
#1903 [11:07] <lutzee> Rikairchy, dell, it's going to be integrated,
#1904 [11:08] <Rikairchy> a dedicated graphics card has a seperate GPU for graphics alone. an integrated graphics card is a core of the CPU that's used for graphics. it shares the cache and processing power between the GPU and CPU
#1905 [11:08] <Mattheous> Processor: Intel i5 2.4GHz Ram: 4GB (Im upgrading to 8GB) Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 3000 Computer: Dell Inspiron 17R
#1906 [11:08] <Mattheous> is that a piece of crap?
#1907 [11:09] <Mattheous> and have i just wasted my money
#1908 [11:09] <lutzee> crap no, it will run minecraft fine, but anything intensvie like shaders, it will cry
#1909 [11:09] * xarcus [xarcus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1910 [11:09] <Mattheous> So is the graphics card alright then?
#1911 [11:09] <Rikairchy> eh
#1912 [11:10] <Rikairchy> graphics card is mediocre at best
#1913 [11:10] <Mattheous> and will perform minecraft good on normal or far
#1914 [11:10] <Rikairchy> probably normal
#1915 [11:10] * Evanphil45 [Evanphil45@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1916 [11:10] <Rikairchy> actually
#1917 [11:10] <Rikairchy> its an i5
#1918 [11:10] <Rikairchy> should be decent on far
#1919 [11:10] <Mattheous> YAY
#1920 [11:10] <Rikairchy> my i5 is pretty good
#1921 [11:11] <Mattheous> I make utube videos with fraps but will that be good when recording
#1922 [11:11] <lutzee> Don't go trying to load shaders though, it won't like it much
#1923 [11:11] <Rikairchy> should have got a desktop
#1924 [11:11] <lutzee> Mattheous, if that is so you will want to record to an external HDD
#1925 [11:11] <Mattheous> Did you not see my argument earlier
#1926 [11:11] * Fishcakes [Fishcakes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1927 [11:11] <lutzee> it will probably run better
#1928 [11:11] <Rikairchy> no, i didnt
#1929 [11:11] <Mattheous> I have a 2TB External hardrive
#1930 [11:12] * Evanphil45_ [Evanphil45_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1931 [11:12] <lutzee> That should be fine for recording too
#1932 [11:12] <Mattheous> that i use all the time, it is a lifesaver
#1933 [11:12] <Fishcakes> I've had minecraft for ages and have only briefly, for like a few days, been able to connect to a friends server...i always get the 'cannot connect to server' message, or similar. I am on a laptop, so cannot run my own server. Any ideas? It is going through my firewall, and theirs as well.
#1934 [11:13] <lutzee> hmmm the 17r does have a combo esata/usb2 port on it
#1935 [11:13] <Mattheous> That has been happening to my friend aswell
#1936 [11:13] * Evanphil45_ [Evanphil45_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1937 [11:13] <lutzee> ??> Fishcakes smp/recentupdate
#1938 [11:13] <Mattheous> he cant connect to my server or anyother ones servers
#1939 [11:13] <VoxelHead> Fishcakes: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1940 [11:13] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/OyuU
#1941 [11:13] <Necrodoom> Fishcakes: is anyone else able to connect
#1942 [11:13] <VoxelHead> Fishcakes: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1943 [11:13] <CJ768> Remember when I had the problem of MC randomly frezzing and crashing earlier?
#1944 [11:13] <Rikairchy> thats my performance under far
#1945 [11:14] <Mattheous> gotta go
#1946 [11:14] <Fishcakes> its only us that uses the server so no :/ and i know, ive updated it, but its not a comercial/service server, its one run from home
#1947 [11:14] <xarcus> I give up
#1948 [11:15] <xarcus> I can't create a server on my machine because my Windows is too bad for that
#1949 [11:15] <lutzee> Fishcakes, you updated the server software too?
#1950 [11:15] <xarcus> after 3 days and 24attempts
#1951 [11:15] <xarcus> that is a total of 78
#1952 [11:15] <Rikairchy> um
#1953 [11:15] <xarcus> have a nice day, bye
#1954 [11:15] <Rikairchy> how
#1955 [11:15] <Fishcakes> we use hamachi, so im not sure.
#1956 [11:15] <lutzee> xarcus, windows is horrible for servers :p
#1957 [11:15] <Rikairchy> 3x24=72
#1958 [11:15] <Rikairchy> use linux for servers
#1959 [11:15] <xarcus> yeah
#1960 [11:15] <lutzee> Fishcakes, ah hamachi
#1961 [11:16] <xarcus> im gonna uninstall win7 and install win xp + ubuntu
#1962 [11:16] <lutzee> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1963 [11:16] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1964 [11:16] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1965 [11:16] <xarcus> bye
#1966 [11:17] <Fishcakes> So im guessing from that hamachi is and was a bad idea? :L
#1967 [11:17] * M0nsterRawr [M0nsterRawr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1968 [11:17] <lutzee> Fishcakes, hamachi is very laggy :p
#1969 [11:17] <lutzee> !check 86.166.5.6
#1970 [11:18] <M0nsterRawr> My game keeps freezing and I don't know how to fix it. I just purchased this game and the lag and freezing are definitely making me question my purchase. I do not have these problems on any other game. :/
#1971 [11:19] <lutzee> hmm M0nsterRawr first some specs on your computer will be useful follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1972 [11:19] <lutzee> ??> M0nsterRawr win/dxdiag
#1973 [11:19] <VoxelHead> M0nsterRawr: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1974 [11:19] <VoxelHead> M0nsterRawr: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1975 [11:19] <Fishcakes> Hmm, well ive never been able to play in a server long enough to know. Should we try something else?
#1976 [11:20] <lutzee> Fishcakes, portforwarding the router to pass all information from the outside to the server is the best option
#1977 [11:20] * Kuth [Kuth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1978 [11:21] <Fishcakes> Ok, we'll have a go at that then. Never port forwarded before, but im sure we can work it out :P Thanks for you help x)
#1979 [11:21] <M0nsterRawr> http://pastebin.com/QuF3ZpP4
#1980 [11:22] <lutzee> Fishcakes, look at portforward.com
#1981 [11:22] <lutzee> More than likely have a guide to doing it
#1982 [11:22] <Evanphil45_> When i try to play the demo, i sign in and i hit play demo, a screen comes up and says minecraft updating and underneath it it says done loading but the loading bar isn't completely full and it just stays like that and won't go to the demo.
#1983 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Evanphil45_ - Known bug. Nothing you can do about it
#1984 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Just wait for Mojang to address it
#1985 [11:23] <Fishcakes> Ok, we'll look :) thankies, i'll come back if we get stuck :D
#1986 [11:23] * ac3xx_ [ac3xx_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1987 [11:23] <lutzee> M0nsterRawr, you might want to update your graphics drivers
#1988 [11:23] <lutzee> ??> M0nsterRawr gpu/intel
#1989 [11:23] <VoxelHead> M0nsterRawr: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1990 [11:24] <Evanphil45_> Alright thanks.
#1991 [11:24] * Lukario45 [Lukario45@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1992 [11:25] <Lukario45> How Do i use an Endor Chest?
#1993 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ender_Chest
#1994 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Just like using a regular chest
#1995 [11:26] <woodtech> it works like a bank, but with items instead ;-)
#1996 [11:28] <Arle> As far as I know it's like the safe in Terraria.
#1997 [11:28] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1998 [11:28] <Arle> There's a aingle inventory shared across all ender chests.
#1999 [11:29] <Arle> single*
#2000 [11:33] <Morrolan> woodtech - And without interest rates.
#2001 [11:33] <Morrolan> Come to think of it, it really is just like a bank these days. :D
#2002 [11:34] <woodtech> it only costs you ender pearls ;-)
#2003 [11:34] <woodtech> eye of ender I mean
#2004 [11:36] * tryy3|Offline [tryy3|Offline@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2005 [11:43] * Syndic [Syndic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2006 [11:51] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2007 [12:02] * M0nsterRawr [M0nsterRawr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2008 [12:03] <M0nsterRawr> I downloaded the driver updates and I am still having the same problems.
#2009 [12:03] <M0nsterRawr> I can't really get into the game because it freezes so much
#2010 [12:07] <Lukario45> I still cant open my ender chest :(
#2011 [12:08] * M0nsterRawr [M0nsterRawr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2012 [12:09] <M0nsterRawr> Wow, Minecraft just froze out my entire computer. I had to completely shut down my computer. I really need to figure out how to fix this freezing issue.
#2013 [12:10] <M0nsterRawr> This is so weird for me because I NEVER have these problems with other games that are far more complicated.
#2014 [12:10] <tryy3> did you do anything special in game?
#2015 [12:10] <M0nsterRawr> No, I just bought this game
#2016 [12:10] * |Kiikun| [|Kiikun|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2017 [12:11] <M0nsterRawr> I'm just trying to figure out how to play it and I can't because it won't last more than 10 minutes without freezing.
#2018 [12:11] <tryy3> lol
#2019 [12:12] <tryy3> i think i seen that issue long ago, but cant remembe how to solve it sry
#2020 [12:12] <woodtech> we should give everybody a strong enough computer
#2021 [12:12] <woodtech> that would solve most problems :p
#2022 [12:12] <M0nsterRawr> My computer is new
#2023 [12:12] <woodtech> sad we can't
#2024 [12:12] <M0nsterRawr> Thanks
#2025 [12:12] <M0nsterRawr> It has no problems running any other game
#2026 [12:13] <woodtech> hmm, did you play with the video settings?
#2027 [12:13] <M0nsterRawr> Nope
#2028 [12:13] <M0nsterRawr> Everything is default
#2029 [12:13] <woodtech> press escape if you are ingame
#2030 [12:14] <Calinou> <M0nsterRawr> My computer is new
#2031 [12:14] <M0nsterRawr> ok
#2032 [12:14] <Calinou> doesn't mean it's powerful
#2033 [12:14] <M0nsterRawr> Dude, my computer can run any other game, it's not my computer
#2034 [12:14] <lutzee> You can buy an atom computer brand new, doesn't mean it can run minecraft
#2035 [12:14] <woodtech> like the raspberry :-)
#2036 [12:14] <lutzee> ^
#2037 [12:14] <lutzee> just recieved mine
#2038 [12:15] <Calinou> M0nsterRawr, what's "any other game"? wolfeinstein 3D? :p
#2039 [12:16] <woodtech> M0nsterRawr: minecraft is I believe more cpu intensive than most shooters
#2040 [12:16] <M0nsterRawr> Wow, being rude when I'm trying to get technical assistance?
#2041 [12:16] <woodtech> so it really depend on what of kind of games you're playing
#2042 [12:16] <lutzee> M0nsterRawr, we are community support, we are not obliged to help you
#2043 [12:16] <Calinou> not being rude - that's called a joke
#2044 [12:16] <M0nsterRawr> I play mostly MMORPG's
#2045 [12:17] <Calinou> MMORPGs are usually GPU-intensive
#2046 [12:17] <lutzee> I can run guildwars and wow on my laptop at 50fps
#2047 [12:17] <Calinou> eg. lots of polys to draw
#2048 [12:17] <lutzee> i can only run minecraft at 25fps
#2049 [12:17] <woodtech> 40fps mc here, 3d games are almost impossible to play
#2050 [12:18] <M0nsterRawr> Well if I can't run the game obviously I'm gonna refund it. Fact is my computer is just fine for gaming, I did do my research when I bought it.
#2051 [12:18] <lutzee> M0nsterRawr, if you did proper research you would have found out the best option for gaming is building our own PC
#2052 [12:18] <M0nsterRawr> If you can afford it
#2053 [12:19] <M0nsterRawr> Not everyone can
#2054 [12:19] <lutzee> Actually
#2055 [12:19] <tryy3> they can?
#2056 [12:19] <tryy3> it called bank loan :D
#2057 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#2058 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> "We are unfortunately unable to offer refunds if a game does not run due to a particular computer's hardware or software limitations. If you have not yet made a purchase, please be sure to observe any posted system requirements."
#2059 [12:19] <lutzee> My PC build will get me a computer thats twice as fast as what can be bought ready built M0nsterRawr
#2060 [12:19] <M0nsterRawr> I did, and my computer met the requirements
#2061 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> What is your video card
#2062 [12:20] <lutzee> http://pastebin.com/QuF3ZpP4 GreyVulpine
#2063 [12:20] <lutzee> thats his dxdiag
#2064 [12:20] <M0nsterRawr> I'm a girl, thanks.
#2065 [12:20] <lutzee> Her, sorry :)
#2066 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> "Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset" there's your problem
#2067 [12:20] <M0nsterRawr> i updated my graphics cards since then
#2068 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Not a discrete video card. Intel integrated cards don't run OpenGL applications well
#2069 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Not seeing any other video cards installed in that machine
#2070 [12:21] <lutzee> Well if you didn't plug your monitor into the grpahics cards ports it probably won't use the card
#2071 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Fine machine though. 6 Gigs of RAM. Craptastic video chipset
#2072 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> lutzee - I don't even see another card listed in the dxdiag
#2073 [12:22] <lutzee> hmm true
#2074 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> If it was installed, it would at least show up there
#2075 [12:22] <lutzee> I only looked at what it was using
#2076 [12:22] <M0nsterRawr> You people are rude. Just saying.
#2077 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> I glance through the system devices.
#2078 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry you feel that way. Try doing tech support without pay, with people demanding attention, cursing at you all day
#2079 [12:23] <M0nsterRawr> I didn't curse at you, did I?
#2080 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Didn't say you did
#2081 [12:23] <M0nsterRawr> I came on for help and got mocked
#2082 [12:24] * Bamp [Bamp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2083 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Well, good luck with your refund request then.
#2084 [12:25] <lutzee> Honestly we say it how it is, if your PC is of poor spec, then we will tell you, and you have to accept the truth, I try to be as polite as possible.
#2085 [12:27] <Rikairchy> at least lutzee is polite.
#2086 [12:27] <woodtech> I'm just reading the chat :p
#2087 [12:27] <lutzee> hehe, are you not Rikairchy? :p
#2088 [12:27] * iChaos [iChaos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2089 [12:27] * VoxelHead kicked iChaos from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Chaos :Banned: Promoting one of those "Earn money on Youtube" videos.)
#2090 [12:27] <Rikairchy> nope
#2091 [12:27] <Rikairchy> I'm not
#2092 [12:28] <lutzee> he lasted long in here ^
#2093 [12:28] <woodtech> lets move on
#2094 [12:30] <lutzee> I could let out a big ran at how i've been planning my PC build for going on 6 months and still haven't decided everything or anywhere close to purchase, but i want it now? ;)
#2095 [12:30] * icymage [icymage@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2096 [12:32] * Rikairchy [Rikairchy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2097 [12:33] * JellyBean [JellyBean@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2098 [12:34] <Rikairchy> thats what that does
#2099 [12:34] <lutzee> what did you do? :o
#2100 [12:34] <Rikairchy> pressed a few buttons
#2101 [12:40] * cole [cole@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2102 [12:41] * Izraili [Izraili@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2103 [12:42] * cole [cole@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2104 [12:43] <cole> minecraft says out of memory or debug. the game stops why?
#2105 [12:44] <lutzee> cole chances are your PC is running low on RAM, tempory fast access memory
#2106 [12:44] <lutzee> ??> cole win/dxdiag
#2107 [12:44] <VoxelHead> cole: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2108 [12:44] <VoxelHead> cole: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2109 [12:44] <cole> ok
#2110 [12:49] <cole> that is alot of information
#2111 [12:50] <lutzee> It will tell me everything i need to know about your PC, it does not tell us any information that will give us access to the PC though so you are safe
#2112 [12:50] * bluewarriorilk [bluewarriorilk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2113 [12:53] <cole> done
#2114 [12:53] <cole> it has been posted
#2115 [12:53] <lutzee> okay you need to copy the web address from the page you get into here
#2116 [12:53] <lutzee> otherwise we can't get access to it :p
#2117 [12:54] <M0nsterRawr> LOL, I got it working with the help of my friend. Have fun getting cussed out.
#2118 [12:54] <cole> http://pastebin.com/BnvFFLxa
#2119 [12:54] <bluewarriorilk> Hi! (sorry for my english i'm french). I need help because i can't take username (bluewarriorilk) because I registred me with this username and i forgot the email with i created
#2120 [12:55] <lutzee> hmm cole try closing every other program you have open when running minecraft
#2121 [12:55] <cole> mine craft is all im runnung
#2122 [12:56] <lutzee> hmm
#2123 [12:56] <bluewarriorilk> in minecraft.net
#2124 [12:56] <cole> y
#2125 [12:56] <lutzee> bluewarriorilk, can you log into minecraft.net?
#2126 [12:56] <cole> y
#2127 [12:56] <lutzee> cole, you aren't the only person here who needs help
#2128 [12:56] <bluewarriorilk> no
#2129 [12:57] <lutzee> bluewarriorilk, is the account premium?
#2130 [12:57] <cole> y
#2131 [12:57] <lutzee> !paid bluewarriorilk
#2132 [12:57] <lutzee> cole you can try turning the graphics options down ingame
#2133 [12:57] <bluewarriorilk> yes but i registred on minecraft and i forgot my email
#2134 [12:58] * WayGroovy [WayGroovy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2135 [12:58] <lutzee> It does not say you have paid for the game
#2136 [12:58] <lutzee> blue you can try posting a support request to mojang here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2137 [12:59] <bluewarriorilk> ok thank you
#2138 [13:00] <cole> i made the changes i will run it and see if that helps....thanks
#2139 [13:03] * FLHerne [FLHerne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2140 [13:05] <Lukario45> Y wont mt endor chest open?
#2141 [13:05] <Morrolan> Did you check the wiki whether it's a known bug?
#2142 [13:06] * ngc0202 [ngc0202@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2143 [13:08] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest that'd be.
#2144 [13:09] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2145 [13:10] * johnjohndad [johnjohndad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2146 [13:10] <Lukario45> i sisnt see any know bugs
#2147 [13:11] <johnjohndad> hello, wondering if you can install minecraft under different account in MAC. Wondering if the shared libraries folder is precluding this. Thanks.
#2148 [13:11] <johnjohndad> multiple accounts, sorry.
#2149 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> johnjohndad - You can
#2150 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft files are stored in individual profile folders on a mac at ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2151 [13:12] * meisth0th [meisth0th@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2152 [13:12] <meisth0th> i am about to buy minecraft, but i wanted to try demo before i buy. when i try to run the demo, i get stuck at 'updating minecraft, done loading' screen. i tried deleting .minecraft folder in appdata, tried 'force update' option, still no luck.
#2153 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> meisth0th - Known issue. Demo doesn't work right now
#2154 [13:13] <meisth0th> if i buy, will it be resolved?
#2155 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> meisth0th - Yeas
#2156 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Er, yes.
#2157 [13:13] <lutzee> but of course you are hence buying the game
#2158 [13:14] <johnjohndad> ok. the issue is that one son plays all the time and the other son wants to play, too. We don't want son2 to play son1's worlds (or screw them up) so we want to install under this account. But, he would need a minecraft account, too, for it to me total his, right?
#2159 [13:14] * xlson [xlson@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2160 [13:14] * Pepper[Away] [Pepper[Away]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2161 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> johnjohndad - As long as both sons are playing on seperate mac accounts, you can get away with purchasing minecraft once
#2162 [13:14] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2163 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> johnjohndad - As long as they log into their respective mac account, they'll only see their save.
#2164 [13:15] <johnjohndad> hmm. ok. Then I think I have a permissions issue that I need to resolve on my mac after the ML upgrade. Thanks GreyVulpine.
#2165 [13:15] <chad> Hi i bought Minecraft yesterday and every time i play it it just ramdomly cuts out and i have to open the desktop folder again whats going on ????
#2166 [13:16] <Lukario45> Yeah there is no bugs with the endor chest
#2167 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> chad - Got any error reports you can share with us? How exactly does it cut out?
#2168 [13:16] * gv [gv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2169 [13:18] <chad> umm i can try and get one :% i am not very good with computers i just like playing games :).. it cuts the game off, so i will be playing one ,imute and then i wont be able to dig a block then the game dissapears and i am back to my home screen
#2170 [13:19] <Lukario45> Do i have to have a redstone torch by my ender chest?
#2171 [13:20] * rahwelt [rahwelt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2172 [13:20] <Lukario45> I f your ender chest fills up what do u do?
#2173 [13:21] <chad> i think i have found an error report
#2174 [13:22] <chad> someone help me please
#2175 [13:24] <chad> what does it mean when it says the SE binary has stopped working??
#2176 [13:24] <chad> what does it mean when it says the SE binary has stopped working??
#2177 [13:24] * chad [chad@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2178 [13:24] <Lukario45> Try Updating Java chad
#2179 [13:24] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2180 [13:25] * mib_7bou8l [mib_7bou8l@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2181 [13:25] <rahwelt> Can anyone tell me what mods/server/skins or whatever is being used in this picture? http://i.imgur.com/gPSPh.png (IM NEW TO MC, 2ND DAY)
#2182 [13:26] <mib_7bou8l> when i want to plat minecraft there is standing downloading terrain for a while and then i cant play
#2183 [13:26] <chad> can someone please help !!!! everytime i play minecraft the game just radomly stops and cuts off mid game i only get to play like 3 min then it cuts off
#2184 [13:26] <mib_7bou8l> can anyone help me whit that
#2185 [13:26] * martin [martin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2186 [13:26] <lutzee> rahwelt, looks like dokucraft
#2187 [13:27] <lutzee> chad try updating java
#2188 [13:27] <martin> when i get on minecraft and i wanna log in its says cant connect to minecraftnet ( not downloaded) then i go to %appdata% .minecraft and it dosent install the files pls help
#2189 [13:27] <lutzee> grey still about? ._.
#2190 [13:27] * harry [harry@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2191 [13:28] <lutzee> martin, you have paid for minecraft?
#2192 [13:28] * Nathan2055 [Nathan2055@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2193 [13:28] <lutzee> GreyVulpine, still about? ._.
#2194 [13:28] <martin> yes im elskerkatte13 i bought it on my other pc
#2195 [13:28] <lutzee> !paid elskerkatte13
#2196 [13:28] <chad> lutzee i think i downloaded it yesterday when i bought the game
#2197 [13:29] <martin> what shuld i do?
#2198 [13:29] <lutzee> mib_7bou8l, looks like your internet is running slow and the connection times out before you get all the data from the server
#2199 [13:29] <lutzee> ??> martin win/reinst
#2200 [13:29] <VoxelHead> martin: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2201 [13:29] <VoxelHead> martin: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2202 [13:29] <mib_7bou8l> what should i do about is them lutzee?
#2203 [13:30] * Nimisum [Nimisum@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2204 [13:30] <Nimisum> Hi i got some problems whit my minecraft 3.1.1 i cant start minecraft can i send the error some where?
#2205 [13:30] <martin> when i try to go to the folder its epty
#2206 [13:30] <lutzee> mib_7bou8l, you might want to ask someone who is part of the server
#2207 [13:30] <martin> empty
#2208 [13:30] <lutzee> ??> pastebin Nimisum
#2209 [13:30] <mib_7bou8l> he alsodont know lutzee
#2210 [13:30] <lutzee> ??> Nimisum pastebin
#2211 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Nimisum: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2212 [13:30] <Nimisum> ok
#2213 [13:31] <mib_7bou8l> someone said that we had to make the world smaller
#2214 [13:31] <lutzee> martin, hmm when you log in with your paid account it should download the files
#2215 [13:31] <lutzee> mib_7bou8l, that should not matter
#2216 [13:31] <chad> ???
#2217 [13:31] <martin> it dosent its dont download anything onl the folder not the files
#2218 [13:31] <lutzee> chad, atm i'm the only one about and i'm trying to help 4 people
#2219 [13:31] <Nimisum> http://pastebin.com/wUykUDgc
#2220 [13:31] <chad> my bad sorry
#2221 [13:32] <Nimisum> so how do i gonna do now
#2222 [13:32] <lutzee> ??> Nimisum win/dxdiag
#2223 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Nimisum: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2224 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Nimisum: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2225 [13:33] <rahwelt> lutzee, is it a map or game he is playing?
#2226 [13:33] <lutzee> rahwelt, he has a custom texturepack
#2227 [13:33] <Nimisum> where do i find thw Win botton
#2228 [13:33] <lutzee> rahwelt, google "dokucraft" thats what i think it is but i can't be sure
#2229 [13:34] <lutzee> Nimisum, between ctrl and alt buttons on your keyboard
#2230 [13:34] <lutzee> the windows key
#2231 [13:34] <Nimisum> ok
#2232 [13:34] <martin> hello?
#2233 [13:34] <meisth0th> when i try to buy i get "Transaction failed" for two OK credit cards, is there an issue too?
#2234 [13:34] <lutzee> Morrolan, you there? i'm overwhelmed D:
#2235 [13:35] <rahwelt> @ lutzee yeah i found the texture pack, but he's got enchanted weapons and stuff. i figured he was playing on a RPG server or downloaded a rpg map or something?
#2236 [13:35] <lutzee> meisth0th, you card vendor might be blocking it as its an international transfer, you might want to ask them
#2237 [13:36] <lutzee> rahwelt, the enchants are part of the game, but he looks to be playing on a server with custom plugins
#2238 [13:36] <chad> lutzee does it help that i got a promblem signature :0
#2239 [13:36] <martin> HELLO?
#2240 [13:37] <Nimisum> http://pastebin.com/B5b02nyQ
#2241 [13:37] <lutzee> Guys please I'm trying my best to deal with you all,
#2242 [13:37] <lutzee> ??> Nimisum gpu/intel
#2243 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Nimisum: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2244 [13:37] <lutzee> martin, i don't know why it won't download the game files with a paid account :/
#2245 [13:38] <Nimisum> what do i gonna do on that site
#2246 [13:38] <martin> so i cant play and i just wastet 25 $?
#2247 [13:38] <meisth0th> lutzee: i am using both cards for my international payments all the time
#2248 [13:38] <Nimisum> VoxelHead
#2249 [13:39] <lutzee> Nimisum, you should find your graphics driver for your graphics chip on there which is a Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
#2250 [13:39] <lutzee> meisth0th, hmm, try paypal
#2251 [13:39] <lutzee> martin, i'm thinking/googling one minute
#2252 [13:40] <meisth0th> tried paypal, it worked
#2253 [13:40] <meisth0th> thanks
#2254 [13:40] <lutzee> ??> martin forceupdate
#2255 [13:40] <VoxelHead> martin: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2256 [13:40] <VoxelHead> martin: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2257 [13:40] <Nimisum> but after i intall it do i need to restart the computer etc?
#2258 [13:41] <lutzee> Nimisum, probably if it asks then do it
#2259 [13:41] <Nimisum> i dont know if i wanna do it then but is it a other way
#2260 [13:41] <martin> gotta eat but still the same
#2261 [13:41] <martin> pls help
#2262 [13:42] <lutzee> Nimisum, no it says your drivers are bad there for it is the only solution
#2263 [13:42] <Nimisum> so i need to restart the computer after ?
#2264 [13:42] <lutzee> Nimisum, i can't say for sure
#2265 [13:43] <lutzee> martin, you are logging into your account right/
#2266 [13:43] <lutzee> ?
#2267 [13:43] <Nimisum> do i got a update on windows to windows 7 then beacus i got windows xp now
#2268 [13:43] <Nimisum> ?*
#2269 [13:44] <lutzee> Nimisum, hmm you might have to find the xp specific drivers
#2270 [13:44] * pippa [pippa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2271 [13:44] <Nimisum> ok
#2272 [13:44] <Nimisum> i realy dont now if i want to do it
#2273 [13:44] <martin> yup i did but its tehe same
#2274 [13:44] * epfan1997 [epfan1997@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2275 [13:44] <Nimisum> martin:
#2276 [13:44] <epfan1997> hello
#2277 [13:44] <martin> ?
#2278 [13:45] <epfan1997> do you speak german ?
#2279 [13:45] <Nimisum> martin: did you update the video card ?
#2280 [13:45] <martin> video card?
#2281 [13:45] <Nimisum> epfan1997: no
#2282 [13:45] <epfan1997> ok
#2283 [13:45] <lutzee> epfan1997, english is prefered in channel unless someone offers otherwise
#2284 [13:45] * |_ocke2 [|_ocke2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2285 [13:45] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2286 [13:45] <Nimisum> martin: you did say yup but i did the same
#2287 [13:46] <martin> ehm yup means yes
#2288 [13:47] <martin> can i get a new minecraft?
#2289 [13:48] * Hostmancupcake [Hostmancupcake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2290 [13:48] <Hostmancupcake> Hello
#2291 [13:48] <Hostmancupcake> where do I report bugs?
#2292 [13:49] <lutzee> martin, try opening the game in the browser
#2293 [13:50] <martin> i cant cuz then its says u has to get the new java then i downloaded and updated jave nothing change
#2294 [13:50] <lutzee> Hostmancupcake, what is your problem?
#2295 [13:50] <Hostmancupcake> Its a gameplay glitch
#2296 [13:50] <lutzee> Hostmancupcake, explain
#2297 [13:50] <Hostmancupcake> whereas I am working with animals, breeding them particularly
#2298 [13:50] <Hostmancupcake> and when I get close to a wall, I begin to suffocate
#2299 [13:50] <Hostmancupcake> and when I get close to a wall, I begin to suffocate
#2300 [13:50] * chad [chad@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2301 [13:51] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2302 [13:51] <Hostmancupcake> Its decently crowded with animals
#2303 [13:51] <Hostmancupcake> but I'm not "in" the wall, just adjacent to it
#2304 [13:51] <lutzee> Hostmancupcake, hmm, the internal server seems to think you are in the wall
#2305 [13:51] <lutzee> But the rest of the client thinks otherwise and shows you outside it
#2306 [13:52] <Hostmancupcake> Where can I report this?
#2307 [13:52] <lutzee> martin, i'm still busy searching the forums for you
#2308 [13:52] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2309 [13:52] <lutzee> Hostmancupcake, um not sure to be fair :S you could try tweeding jeb or dinnerbone
#2310 [13:52] <chad> Lutzee what is a SE Binary ??
#2311 [13:52] <lutzee> tweeting*
#2312 [13:53] <Hostmancupcake> okay
#2313 [13:53] <lutzee> chad, that is the java virtual machine
#2314 [13:53] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2315 [13:53] <chad> its says that has stopped working when i ask it to check for a solution online
#2316 [13:54] <lutzee> Okay guys i must go eat someone else should be arround shortly hopefully
#2317 [13:55] * epfan1997 [epfan1997@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2318 [13:58] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2319 [13:58] <chad> help !!!!!
#2320 [13:58] <chad> pleaseee
#2321 [14:06] * jack116 [jack116@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2322 [14:06] <woodtech> screaming doesn't help, quiting neither...
#2323 [14:08] * martin [martin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2324 [14:09] <martin> im back
#2325 [14:09] <jack116> I had minecraft before but my hardware was not good so i had to bring it to best buy and they replaced my hardware they said my files and saved games are still here but when i go to minecraft to play my world isnt there and i cant open my files to get to my world
#2326 [14:09] <woodtech> seek cover!
#2327 [14:10] <martin> pls help me
#2328 [14:10] <woodtech> jack116: can you find other files?
#2329 [14:10] <woodtech> martin: aks!
#2330 [14:10] <woodtech> *ask
#2331 [14:10] <jack116> i have the files but they wont open and it wont transfer to minecraft
#2332 [14:10] <woodtech> jack116: which os are you using?
#2333 [14:10] <Calinou> O_o what do you mean?
#2334 [14:11] <martin> cant connect to minecraft.net ( notdownloaded) when i tyr to lauch
#2335 [14:11] <woodtech> martin: do you have a paid account?
#2336 [14:11] <Calinou> did you type in the right username/password combination?
#2337 [14:11] <martin> yes elskerkatte13
#2338 [14:11] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#2339 [14:11] <Calinou> try this ^ read CAREFULLY!
#2340 [14:12] <jack116> what do u mean by os
#2341 [14:12] <woodtech> operating system, like windows
#2342 [14:12] <woodtech> srr if that was confusing
#2343 [14:12] <jack116> windows 7
#2344 [14:13] <martin> nothing that heo:(
#2345 [14:14] <martin> help
#2346 [14:14] <woodtech> jack116: go to C:\Users\[your computer account name]\
#2347 [14:14] <woodtech> then go in \AppData\Roaming (I'm not using windows, I'm using another site to help me for that :p)
#2348 [14:14] <Calinou> woodtech, -_-
#2349 [14:14] <Calinou> martin, press Windows+R
#2350 [14:14] <Calinou> then type this: %appdata%/.minecraft
#2351 [14:14] <martin> yes
#2352 [14:15] <Calinou> woodtech, lrn2envvariables
#2353 [14:15] <martin> ehm
#2354 [14:15] <woodtech> Calinou: can you help jack116 locating the mc save games?
#2355 [14:15] <woodtech> it might not be copied
#2356 [14:15] <woodtech> I'm on osx atm
#2357 [14:16] <martin> the .minecraft folder is empty:o
#2358 [14:16] <lutzee> Meh, macs are annoying..
#2359 [14:16] <woodtech> or am I confusing both persons I'm helping...
#2360 [14:16] <woodtech> nope
#2361 [14:17] <lutzee> They are so annoying for tech support people who don't have macs ;)
#2362 [14:17] <woodtech> martin: you don't have that save file issue right ;-)
#2363 [14:17] <woodtech> then don't look in it (for now) ;-)
#2364 [14:17] <martin> the folder is empty so i guees not:O but i redownloaded like 123712643 times
#2365 [14:17] <lutzee> woodtech, if you don't know try to use the bot ;)
#2366 [14:18] <woodtech> lutzee: I'm pretty new on this channel :p
#2367 [14:18] <woodtech> still have to learn the bots
#2368 [14:18] <lutzee> martin, i have no idea why your computer isn't even attempting to download the game files
#2369 [14:18] <martin> i have payed so is it just waste of 25 $?
#2370 [14:18] <woodtech> jack116: are you still here?
#2371 [14:18] * Drool [Drool@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2372 [14:19] <Calinou> martin, did you try forcing minecraft to use ipv4?
#2373 [14:19] <Calinou> see the link
#2374 [14:19] <martin> nope i dont think so
#2375 [14:19] <woodtech> martin: can you login on minecraft.net?
#2376 [14:19] <martin> how i do thant?
#2377 [14:19] <martin> yes
#2378 [14:19] <woodtech> then don't worry, you didn't waste your money ;-)
#2379 [14:19] <jack116> i just tryed updating my game and trying to get into to files and still wont let me
#2380 [14:20] <lutzee> martin, ave you ever played using a pirated version?
#2381 [14:20] <martin> nope
#2382 [14:20] <lutzee> jack116, what antivirus do you use?
#2383 [14:20] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2384 [14:21] <chad> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I AM DESPERATE
#2385 [14:21] <lutzee> chad, shouting will not get you anywhere.
#2386 [14:21] <woodtech> chad: just ask, but please note that there are 2 others people we're trying to help
#2387 [14:22] <jack116> i dont have any i dont have iinternet im at the libaray usinig the internet at the moment
#2388 [14:22] <chad> hahahaha
#2389 [14:22] <chad> no worries
#2390 [14:22] <lutzee> jack116, chances are they block access at your library so they don't have kiddies in there hogging the PC's :)
#2391 [14:22] <woodtech> jack116: hmm, can you still access the files from somewhere else?
#2392 [14:23] <woodtech> like the old hard disk
#2393 [14:23] <jack116> i went past there system and just using full internet access i can but i would need a machine and i dont have it here
#2394 [14:23] <lutzee> woodtech, public PC he probably can't get access to appdata
#2395 [14:24] <chad> my problem is that minecraft keeps cutting off while playing i only get to play for at least 3 min before it just cuts off and says there is a problem . i have a problem signature does that help ??
#2396 [14:24] <woodtech> oh, is jack116 using a public pc?
#2397 [14:24] <jack116> no im using my laptop
#2398 [14:24] * [THC]Fibonacci [[THC]Fibonacci@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2399 [14:24] <lutzee> chad, if it's an error report use pastebin
#2400 [14:24] <jack116> i brought into a public library
#2401 [14:24] <lutzee> ??> chad pastebin
#2402 [14:24] <VoxelHead> chad: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2403 [14:24] <jack116> but i went past there block codes so i have everything unlocked
#2404 [14:24] <lutzee> jack116, you have the save files on the laptop?
#2405 [14:24] <martin> i use tdc antivirus program
#2406 [14:25] <jack116> yes i have them and once i try to oped them there saying there locked and all i can think of is when best buy fixed my computer they locked them so i cant cant get into them and they wont tell me how
#2407 [14:26] * su [su@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2408 [14:26] <chad> http://pastebin.com/gkZ5x9hH thank you guys :)
#2409 [14:26] <lutzee> locked? that's odd
#2410 [14:27] <lutzee> java 7u5
#2411 [14:27] <martin> pls answer woodtech
#2412 [14:27] <lutzee> chad, read this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#2413 [14:27] <Calinou> <martin> i use tdc antivirus program < O_o what's that
#2414 [14:27] <lutzee> ^ thinking the same
#2415 [14:28] <woodtech> never heared of it as well
#2416 [14:29] <woodtech> is tdc an internet server provider?
#2417 [14:29] <woodtech> (or short ISP)
#2418 [14:30] <martin> its anti virus progam
#2419 [14:30] <Calinou> never heard of it
#2420 [14:30] <lutzee> woodtech, he's on BT
#2421 [14:31] <lutzee> actually
#2422 [14:31] <woodtech> BT?
#2423 [14:31] <lutzee> tdc might be a company that rents of BT
#2424 [14:31] <lutzee> british telecoms
#2425 [14:31] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2426 [14:31] <martin> im danish
#2427 [14:32] <lutzee> your hostmask still indicates BT
#2428 [14:32] <martin> yeah
#2429 [14:32] <woodtech> in that case, it might be a sister company ;-)
#2430 [14:33] <woodtech> the closest result I've got is http://tdc.com/publish.php?id=2551
#2431 [14:33] <martin> but why cant i download the files
#2432 [14:33] <woodtech> which does me suspect of a ISP
#2433 [14:33] <martin> thats it:)
#2434 [14:33] <lutzee> woodtech, nah, BT rents out its services but his hostmask still returns a british IP
#2435 [14:33] <woodtech> strange
#2436 [14:34] <woodtech> martin: which files?
#2437 [14:34] <woodtech> on the minecraft download site?
#2438 [14:34] <martin> but how do i download the files to the .minecraft its just empty when i download minecraft.exe
#2439 [14:34] <skyboy> launch minecraft.exe and log in
#2440 [14:35] * Yeti|InHiding [Yeti|InHiding@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2441 [14:35] <martin> i cant
#2442 [14:35] <lutzee> skyboy, something is blocking his conenction to minecraft.net
#2443 [14:35] <skyboy> it will download them automagically
#2444 [14:35] <martin> then its says
#2445 [14:35] <lutzee> ??> martin win/hosts
#2446 [14:35] <VoxelHead> martin: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2447 [14:35] <VoxelHead> martin: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2448 [14:35] <martin> cant connect to minecraft.net
#2449 [14:36] <skyboy> how did he download minecraft.exe in the first place if he can't connect to minecraft.net?
#2450 [14:36] <woodtech> than we're back to the anti-virus problem :p
#2451 [14:36] <lutzee> skyboy, login servers are on a different IP to the websie
#2452 [14:37] <martin> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be in
#2453 [14:37] <lutzee> martin, pastebin please
#2454 [14:37] <skyboy> ?? pastebin
#2455 [14:37] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2456 [14:38] <martin> http://pastebin.com/BNHA4uZj
#2457 [14:38] <lutzee> nothing wrong there
#2458 [14:39] <martin> do u have teamveiwer?
#2459 [14:39] <martin> then u can watch my screen when im trying to log in
#2460 [14:39] * Rickly [Rickly@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2461 [14:40] * TKGP [TKGP@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2462 [14:40] <Rickly> are we aloud to sell in game items for real life money?
#2463 [14:40] <woodtech> Rickly: I think you should ask permission at mojang for that
#2464 [14:41] <skyboy> i don't see why anyone would be dumb enough to buy them, but sure, why not?
#2465 [14:41] <woodtech> at least, if you talk about mc
#2466 [14:41] <Rickly> woodtech you know how i can get ahold of one of them
#2467 [14:41] <lutzee> woodtech, actually they won't reply probably, but i have seen stuff like that
#2468 [14:41] <lutzee> However i don't think many websites permit advertising if you have such schemes
#2469 [14:41] <skyboy> Rickly: it's not illegal to do so
#2470 [14:42] <chad> Sorry Lutzee i read that help guide and could not find anything that matched my problem. what would you suggest
#2471 [14:42] <skyboy> but good luck finding anyone stupid enough to actually pay you money
#2472 [14:42] <Rickly> ok skyboy do u have proof something on the mojang site so i can show some people
#2473 [14:42] <martin> pls help me
#2474 [14:42] <skyboy> the proof is that they do not forbid you from doing so
#2475 [14:43] <lutzee> Rickly, http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#2476 [14:43] <skyboy> mojang doesn't manage the servers, thus they can not control what goes on in them
#2477 [14:44] <martin> hello? how do i solve my problem?
#2478 [14:44] <Rickly> ok so the server is mine to sell what i please
#2479 [14:44] <lutzee> martin, we are community support, not everyone knows every solution to every problem
#2480 [14:45] <Rickly> thank you all guys this is really helpful
#2481 [14:45] <martin> just annoying i have to buy it again.
#2482 [14:45] <lutzee> martin, don't
#2483 [14:45] <skyboy> you don't have to buy it again
#2484 [14:45] <lutzee> that will not solve your problem
#2485 [14:45] <skyboy> and buying it again will not fix your problem
#2486 [14:46] <woodtech> martin: you just have to pay your account, not the download ;-)
#2487 [14:46] <martin> how i do that=
#2488 [14:46] <woodtech> which also means you can use it on any other computer as well
#2489 [14:46] <martin> pls send me a link:)
#2490 [14:47] <skyboy> downloading the exe again will not solve your problem
#2491 [14:48] <woodtech> I am more interested in things that does work, instead of not working
#2492 [14:48] <skyboy> if he can't log in, it's impossible to find out what works
#2493 [14:48] <martin> i got connectin all that suff
#2494 [14:49] <woodtech> martin: but not with mc right?
#2495 [14:49] <martin> mc?
#2496 [14:49] <woodtech> minecraft
#2497 [14:49] <lutzee> martin, try disabling your antivirus and try again
#2498 [14:49] <martin> ehm no when i try to log in its says cant connect minecraft.net ( not downloaded)
#2499 [14:50] <woodtech> martin: can you take screenshots?
#2500 [14:50] <martin> i dont know how to see tham
#2501 [14:50] <martin> its still error
#2502 [14:51] <woodtech> martin: try logging in again on the website
#2503 [14:52] <woodtech> we're going circular now :p
#2504 [14:52] <martin> done
#2505 [14:53] <lutzee> woodtech, get him to ping login.minecraft.net from cmd
#2506 [14:53] <ngc0202> :o :o
#2507 [14:53] <ngc0202> I just accidentally duplicated something with
#2508 [14:53] <ngc0202> my ender cehst
#2509 [14:53] <ngc0202> chest*
#2510 [14:53] <ngc0202> I don't know what I did though D:
#2511 [14:54] <lutzee> ngc0202, enderchests are a network of chests that are all linked together
#2512 [14:54] <ngc0202> Erm... I know?
#2513 [14:54] <lutzee> O.o
#2514 [14:54] <ngc0202> Very low relevance there...
#2515 [14:54] <lutzee> okay well, they should have been fool prood
#2516 [14:54] <lutzee> proof
#2517 [14:55] <lutzee> you are sure both items actually exist?
#2518 [14:55] <ngc0202> I took 31 melons out
#2519 [14:55] <ngc0202> and it made two stacks on opposite sides of my inventory o.O
#2520 [14:55] <ngc0202> of 31
#2521 [14:55] * jjanu12 [jjanu12@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2522 [14:55] <woodtech> martin: are you still here?
#2523 [14:55] <martin> yes
#2524 [14:55] <chad> Lutzee when you get a free min please bro :)
#2525 [14:55] <martin> waiting on a sms:)
#2526 [14:56] <martin> or a chat
#2527 [14:56] <martin> idk what u call it)
#2528 [14:56] <martin> what shuld i do?
#2529 [14:56] <woodtech> martin: mojang doesn't tell us a lot http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542047-can-t-connect-to-minecraft-net
#2530 [14:56] <lutzee> I'm tired, i was up till 4am last night helping people and all day today i need a break ._.
#2531 [14:57] <martin> my problem is that yes but like with (not downloaded) under it
#2532 [14:58] <woodtech> martin: can you see the print screen button on your keyboad?
#2533 [14:58] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2534 [14:58] <woodtech> if you get that error, press that key, open paint and paste
#2535 [14:58] * Contex-- [Contex--@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2536 [14:58] <martin> i think
#2537 [14:59] <lutzee> prt scr button
#2538 [14:59] <martin> isent it ctrl + p
#2539 [15:00] <Morrolan> ctrl-p is printing, in most software.
#2540 [15:00] <lutzee> no thats basic print function
#2541 [15:00] <lutzee> the prt scr button will take an image of your screen at that moment
#2542 [15:00] <woodtech> its close to the "del" button, mostly at top of the keyboard
#2543 [15:01] <lutzee> damn is there a command for it in voxelhead for it? >..
#2544 [15:01] <lutzee> >.>
#2545 [15:01] <martin> oh yeah i see
#2546 [15:01] <Morrolan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_screen
#2547 [15:01] <martin> what now?
#2548 [15:02] <woodtech> did you paste in paint?
#2549 [15:02] <martin> idk what u talk about:/
#2550 [15:03] * Contex [Contex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2551 [15:03] <woodtech> do you know paint?
#2552 [15:03] <martin> yes
#2553 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> ??>> woodtech error/cantconnect
#2554 [15:04] <woodtech> open that program
#2555 [15:04] <martin> ook
#2556 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> woodtech: this would be more helpful than help.mojang.com I think
#2557 [15:04] <woodtech> then paste
#2558 [15:04] * chad [chad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2559 [15:04] <martin> ok
#2560 [15:04] <martin> i have paste
#2561 [15:04] <woodtech> then save it
#2562 [15:05] <martin> done
#2563 [15:05] <woodtech> and go to imgur.com, or use dropbox, or whatever you want to upload the image
#2564 [15:05] <woodtech> and paste the link on irc
#2565 [15:05] <chad> Hi guys still having some trouble
#2566 [15:06] <martin> http://imgur.com/MeL3G
#2567 [15:07] <woodtech> martin: not downloaded just means you didn't log in mc yet
#2568 [15:07] <martin> no i cant
#2569 [15:07] <woodtech> you can only play offline when you downloaded it and have valid (encrypted) login credentials on your computer
#2570 [15:07] <martin> but i dont have that?
#2571 [15:08] <woodtech> not if that program didn't make a connection with the internet yet
#2572 [15:08] <martin> how do i fix?
#2573 [15:08] <woodtech> so now you have to find the thing that prevents that program from being connected to the mc servers
#2574 [15:09] <chad> woodtech howcome when i play offline i can only play for a couple of minutes and then the game stwitches off
#2575 [15:09] <woodtech> chad: hmm, did you pay?
#2576 [15:09] <chad> yes i did it has giving me a problem signature but i have no clue what it means
#2577 [15:09] <woodtech> sounds very non-premium, where you can only play for 100 minutes
#2578 [15:10] <martin> can u link it to me?
#2579 [15:10] <martin> i dont know what u mean:/
#2580 [15:10] <lutzee> chad, that isn't really helpful unfortunately
#2581 [15:10] <woodtech> martin: you've got an anti-virus that wasn't famous to us, right?
#2582 [15:10] <chad> i deffo paid got the comfirmation of payment
#2583 [15:10] <martin> yh'
#2584 [15:10] <woodtech> can you find the firewall in that program?
#2585 [15:10] <martin> yh
#2586 [15:11] <woodtech> and when you're stuck, give the screen
#2587 [15:12] <chad> Lutzee i read that help guide link and still nothing happens
#2588 [15:12] <woodtech> chad: hmm, so you are premium now? did you logged in after you became premium?
#2589 [15:12] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2590 [15:12] <chad> yes i am premium and yes i did log in and did download it.
#2591 [15:13] <martin> im in at the firewall now
#2592 [15:13] <woodtech> chad: any chances you've got an error?
#2593 [15:14] <martin> woodtech
#2594 [15:14] <martin> what now=
#2595 [15:15] <woodtech> martin: can you take a screen again? just to be sure I'm on track
#2596 [15:16] <martin> http://imgur.com/cpu3W
#2597 [15:16] <chad> it did say there was so i copied the problem signature
#2598 [15:16] <lutzee> thats windows trying to help but it tells us nothing
#2599 [15:17] <woodtech> hmm, I don't understand anything in it :p
#2600 [15:18] <woodtech> but so far as I can make up, minecraft has some more access
#2601 [15:18] <lutzee> martin, you are going to have to translate what stuff says
#2602 [15:18] <martin> it can only be on danish..
#2603 [15:18] <lutzee> martin, translate it yourself
#2604 [15:19] <woodtech> Tilad means permission granted or something
#2605 [15:19] <martin> progam control
#2606 [15:19] <martin> i got abp in there and mw2 and minecraft
#2607 [15:19] <chad> oh ok :& is there anything i could try ?? perhaps try a diff computer
#2608 [15:19] <woodtech> I just can't type some uncommon characters
#2609 [15:20] <woodtech> martin: can you unblock ports?
#2610 [15:20] <martin> whats ports?
#2611 [15:20] <lutzee> woodtech, it's a DNS problem
#2612 [15:20] <woodtech> lutzee: hmm
#2613 [15:20] <martin> where i find that?
#2614 [15:20] <lutzee> and or program doesn't have perms in the firewall
#2615 [15:20] <lutzee> he would have to add an exception for minecraft
#2616 [15:20] <woodtech> which is added
#2617 [15:21] <woodtech> but mc could also launced a different instance without access
#2618 [15:21] <lutzee> add java too
#2619 [15:21] <martin> abp reloaded mw2 LoL and malware protection mc and punk booster , steam, vivoxy _.exe
#2620 [15:21] <lutzee> it's the java VM that does the stuff
#2621 [15:22] * Noxity [Noxity@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2622 [15:22] <lutzee> martin, add java to that list
#2623 [15:22] <Noxity> Hey, this isn't really an issue, more of a question
#2624 [15:22] <woodtech> lutzee: then he needs the location of that program
#2625 [15:22] <woodtech> Noxity: go ahead
#2626 [15:22] <Noxity> Can anything else be done with LAN servers? I know it's normally only if you're on the same network, but does Hamachi change anything?
#2627 [15:23] <woodtech> martin: its a real bummer you're using a program that isn't famous to us ;-)
#2628 [15:23] <lutzee> C:/Program Files/Java/jre7/bin/java.exe
#2629 [15:23] <woodtech> martin: ^ add that program to the list
#2630 [15:24] <Noxity> Firewall list?
#2631 [15:24] <martin> i cant add jave ...
#2632 [15:25] <woodtech> martin: did the program rejected it or can't you locate it?
#2633 [15:25] <martin> cant locate
#2634 [15:26] <woodtech> can you find C:/Program Files/Java/ ?
#2635 [15:26] <martin> yh
#2636 [15:26] <woodtech> which directories do you see in there?
#2637 [15:27] <Noxity> Is this for firewall/port forwarding?
#2638 [15:27] <martin> folder called jre7
#2639 [15:27] <woodtech> and whats in jre7?
#2640 [15:27] <chad> lutzee i have played for about 5 min and a message has come up saying out of memory,
#2641 [15:27] <martin> idk a folder i guees
#2642 [15:27] <woodtech> I hope its the bin folder
#2643 [15:27] <woodtech> and the java.exe in it
#2644 [15:28] <chad> lutzee forgot to mention i am playing offline does that make sense ?
#2645 [15:28] * toxictony [toxictony@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2646 [15:28] <martin> ok
#2647 [15:28] <martin> done
#2648 [15:28] <toxictony> hello i have a multiplayer problem can anybody help?
#2649 [15:29] <woodtech> toxictony: ask!
#2650 [15:29] <lutzee> toxictony, the problem is?
#2651 [15:29] <martin> what now?
#2652 [15:29] <woodtech> martin: if you added java.exe, try mc again
#2653 [15:29] <Noxity> Oh great, I start a new world, back out of Minecraft to come on the IRC, go back on Minecraft and I get a crash menu -_-
#2654 [15:30] <toxictony> i want to play with my friend on a server, we've tried so many things yet it still says "failed to connect to server
#2655 [15:30] <toxictony> wat do i do?
#2656 [15:30] <woodtech> toxictony: its likely there is a router between you and him/her preventing the connection
#2657 [15:30] <Noxity> Port Forwarding or Hamachi?
#2658 [15:30] <lutzee> toxictony, explain what methods you have tried to us
#2659 [15:30] <martin> still the same
#2660 [15:31] <woodtech> martin: does that anti-virus program also list blocked connections?
#2661 [15:31] <Noxity> Toxictony, is the server up/does it have players?
#2662 [15:31] <toxictony> it is just me and him
#2663 [15:31] <woodtech> martin: in the worst case you have to disable the firewall (which is not really recommended)
#2664 [15:31] <chad> woodtech have you seen that message before
#2665 [15:31] <toxictony> but he can get in
#2666 [15:31] <Noxity> Any mods installed?
#2667 [15:32] <martin> its just so annoying
#2668 [15:32] <Noxity> I installed the Portal Mod the other day, stopped all connections to servers
#2669 [15:32] <woodtech> martin: I know
#2670 [15:32] <toxictony> no
#2671 [15:32] <toxictony> no mods
#2672 [15:32] <martin> i bought this pc to 5 k for plaing minecraft and mw2
#2673 [15:32] <martin> ..
#2674 [15:32] <Noxity> Can you post the error message? Or is it just "Failed to Connect"?
#2675 [15:33] <woodtech> martin: if you find a way to disable the firewall, retry
#2676 [15:33] <woodtech> then you know its the firewall
#2677 [15:33] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2678 [15:33] <Noxity> woodtech, he should be allowing javaw.exe, not java.exe
#2679 [15:33] <toxictony> it says "failed to connect to server: connection timed out:connect" is exactly wat it says
#2680 [15:33] <woodtech> Noxity: good point
#2681 [15:34] <zzzz> would smanly or skyboy happen to be around?
#2682 [15:34] <Noxity> martin, allow javaw.exe, Minecraft.exe, and Minecraft_server.exe
#2683 [15:34] <martin> ïts not my problem doing that it just wont install the fkn fkn fkn files
#2684 [15:34] <Noxity> I had this problem the other day; then check on www.canyouseeme.org
#2685 [15:34] <Noxity> toxictony, can you connect to other serverS?
#2686 [15:34] <skyboy> zzzz: ?
#2687 [15:34] <toxictony> i have never tried to
#2688 [15:34] <woodtech> martin: its something that prevent the client from making an internet connection
#2689 [15:35] <Noxity> toxictony, try another server
#2690 [15:35] <toxictony> im new to multiplayer
#2691 [15:35] <woodtech> if you have a connection, its all done for you
#2692 [15:35] <toxictony> i dont know any other ones
#2693 [15:35] <toxictony> ...
#2694 [15:35] <zzzz> fairly sure it was just his shady version of bukkit acting up, after yelling at him enough he updated it and everything seems golden now
#2695 [15:35] <Noxity> I'll message you mine
#2696 [15:35] <toxictony> ok
#2697 [15:35] <zzzz> although its *still* odd that it noly affected me
#2698 [15:35] <martin> i wanna like !
#2699 [15:35] <Noxity> Get it?
#2700 [15:35] <martin> SO FKN ANNOYING
#2701 [15:36] <toxictony> no...
#2702 [15:36] <woodtech> drama doesn't solve the problem ;-)
#2703 [15:36] <zzzz> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL?
#2704 [15:36] <zzzz> i've got to run, just thought i'd tell you sky
#2705 [15:37] <martin> omfg
#2706 [15:37] <zzzz> thanks for the help, at least it made me giggle
#2707 [15:37] <martin> i have sitted the hole day!
#2708 [15:37] <zzzz> gotta run
#2709 [15:38] <martin> it was just waste of 25$
#2710 [15:39] <toxictony> am i supposed to type that into direct connect?
#2711 [15:39] <woodtech> martin: disable the firewall (for now)?
#2712 [15:39] * Aidono [Aidono@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2713 [15:39] <martin> i alrdy tryed
#2714 [15:39] <martin> 5 times
#2715 [15:39] <woodtech> hmm
#2716 [15:40] <woodtech> martin: do you have another computer?
#2717 [15:40] <Noxity> martin, add program "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe"
#2718 [15:40] <toxictony> i am confused nox
#2719 [15:40] <martin> yeah thats works fine but it got virus
#2720 [15:40] <Noxity> And go to the Minecraft directory and add it, then add the Server
#2721 [15:40] <Noxity> toxictony, type it in to "Add Server"
#2722 [15:40] <woodtech> Noxity: http://i.imgur.com/cpu3W.png
#2723 [15:41] <Noxity> Click "Add Server", the name doesn't matter, then press input that into "Server Address"
#2724 [15:41] <martin> woodtech?
#2725 [15:41] <woodtech> yes?
#2726 [15:42] <Noxity> woodtech, what program's being used there?
#2727 [15:42] <woodtech> Noxity: thats the screenshot from marting before he added java
#2728 [15:42] <woodtech> martin: can you take a new screen?
#2729 [15:42] <Noxity> What's the "VIVOXV"?
#2730 [15:43] <martin> udk
#2731 [15:43] <martin> idk
#2732 [15:43] <martin> ¨gotta eat ice brb
#2733 [15:43] <woodtech> cya
#2734 [15:44] * [THC]Fibonacci [[THC]Fibonacci@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2735 [15:45] <woodtech> martin: can you take a screen under logføring?
#2736 [15:45] <woodtech> if you're back at least
#2737 [15:46] * Loadingscreen [Loadingscreen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2738 [15:46] * ireallyneedhelp [ireallyneedhelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2739 [15:47] <ireallyneedhelp> hey i need help can anyone help?
#2740 [15:47] <Noxity> Just ask
#2741 [15:47] <ireallyneedhelp> every time i open minecraft it says failed to launch fatal error occured (2): null
#2742 [15:47] * wzich [wzich@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2743 [15:48] <Noxity> Crash screen?
#2744 [15:48] <lutzee> Ah
#2745 [15:48] <ireallyneedhelp> it has dirt background
#2746 [15:48] <lutzee> ireallyneedhelp, you been modding?
#2747 [15:48] <ireallyneedhelp> nope
#2748 [15:48] <lutzee> hmm
#2749 [15:48] <lutzee> okay
#2750 [15:48] <lutzee> ??> ireallyneedhelp win/reinst
#2751 [15:48] <ireallyneedhelp> i didnt do anything woke up today tried to log on bam
#2752 [15:48] <VoxelHead> ireallyneedhelp: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2753 [15:48] <VoxelHead> ireallyneedhelp: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2754 [15:49] <ireallyneedhelp> im on mac btw
#2755 [15:49] <lutzee> ah
#2756 [15:49] <lutzee> ??> ireallyneedhelp mac/reinst
#2757 [15:49] <VoxelHead> ireallyneedhelp: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2758 [15:49] <VoxelHead> ireallyneedhelp: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2759 [15:49] <ireallyneedhelp> ok if that doesnt work?
#2760 [15:49] <Noxity> Mac? *shoots himself*
#2761 [15:49] <woodtech> ireallyneedhelp: which version are you running? 10.7?
#2762 [15:50] <lutzee> ireallyneedhelp, it should, the md5 sums have gotten corrupt
#2763 [15:50] <ireallyneedhelp> ya 10.7
#2764 [15:50] <Noxity> Shoot the Mac user!
#2765 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> ireallyneedhelp mac/.minecraft/lion
#2766 [15:50] <VoxelHead> ireallyneedhelp: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2767 [15:50] <ireallyneedhelp> k thx ill try it
#2768 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> ireallyneedhelp: Do this first, then continue with the reinstallation
#2769 [15:52] * Michael-H [Michael-H@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2770 [15:52] * ireallyneedhelp [ireallyneedhelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2771 [15:52] <ireallyneedhelp> ok done i deleted it now do i reinstall or?
#2772 [15:53] <Michael-H> anyone in here consider themselves an expert on villages? i seem to be having a slight problem with the door/villager/iron golem ratios lol
#2773 [15:53] <ireallyneedhelp> nvr mind thx i owe you guys so huge
#2774 [15:53] <lutzee> ireallyneedhelp, just start the game and login
#2775 [15:53] * ireallyneedhelp [ireallyneedhelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2776 [15:54] <ireallyneedhelp> now it says failed to lauch fatal error occuredd (4): no space left on device retrieving: minecraft.jar 83% @ 477.08 kb/sec
#2777 [15:55] <lutzee> o.o
#2778 [15:55] <lutzee> is yur hard drive full?
#2779 [15:55] <lutzee> your*
#2780 [15:55] <Michael-H> i have a village that is mostly natural but slightly modified, it currently has 38 doors - according to 35%/door this should be 13 villagers, but we have 20 villaers wandering around and no other villages are close...
#2781 [15:55] <ireallyneedhelp> idk is that it?
#2782 [15:55] <lutzee> "no space left on device"
#2783 [15:56] * Thaorn [Thaorn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2784 [15:56] <lutzee> i can only asume our hard drive is full
#2785 [15:56] <ireallyneedhelp> ya thats what i thought but i didnt know
#2786 [15:56] <lutzee> your*
#2787 [15:56] <Thaorn> Hi everybody !
#2788 [15:56] <ireallyneedhelp> ok ill try deleting aome stuff
#2789 [15:56] <woodtech> ireallyneedhelp: I expect that you get more problems for that other than mc crashing
#2790 [15:56] <Michael-H> the village had no iron golems when we started but I added buildings and when we got to about 18 villagers we noticed a golem, but now at 20 we have two golems - we shouldn't have two until 32 villagers though, at 1:16 ratio
#2791 [15:57] <ireallyneedhelp> idk all thats happend is mc crashing
#2792 [15:57] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#2793 [15:57] <Thaorn> Anybody have the "Can't connect to minecraft.net" trouble? (sorry for my english speaking, i'm french)
#2794 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> !login
#2795 [15:57] <Rikairchy> !isdown
#2796 [15:57] <GreyBot> Rikairchy: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2797 [15:57] <Rikairchy> lol
#2798 [15:58] <woodtech> Thaorn: probably a firewall problem
#2799 [15:58] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: can't connec to mc.net requires !login
#2800 [15:58] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 nou
#2801 [15:58] <Thaorn> woodtech: I already try with my antivirus firewall down, and it don't works
#2802 [15:58] <Michael-H> anyone have suggestion for my villager/golem ratio thing?
#2803 [15:58] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: nuo
#2804 [15:58] <Michael-H> !login
#2805 [15:58] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 ohu
#2806 [15:58] <woodtech> Thaorn: did you only unblock minecraft?
#2807 [15:59] <woodtech> Thaorn: I think you should unblock some java applications as well
#2808 [15:59] <lutzee> Thaorn, do you use AVG?
#2809 [15:59] <Thaorn> woodtech: It block until my firewall is down?
#2810 [15:59] <Thaorn> lutzee: i use Eset Smart Security 5
#2811 [15:59] <toxictony> i cant connect to a multi player server with my friend i need help
#2812 [16:00] <lutzee> 2nd AV today i haven't heard of ._.
#2813 [16:00] <woodtech> toxictony: did you check the routers?
#2814 [16:00] <toxictony> how do i do that?
#2815 [16:01] <woodtech> lutzee: I guess too many people are trying to reinvent the wheel in real life :p
#2816 [16:01] <Thaorn> lutzee: I think it's a serious AV ^^'
#2817 [16:01] <Noxity> I'm going now
#2818 [16:01] <Noxity> I'm going now
#2819 [16:01] * Noxity [Noxity@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2820 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> Thaorn: Try turning it off
#2821 [16:02] <lutzee> ??> Thaorn win/avast
#2822 [16:02] <VoxelHead> Thaorn: (win/avast) Sometimes, viruses get in and must be removed. They can interfere with how the computer works, including stealing passwords and preventing minecraft from working.
#2823 [16:02] <VoxelHead> Thaorn: (win/avast) Avast is free virus scanning and removal software. Install it, restart into safe mode, and run a scan. Download it here: http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download
#2824 [16:02] <Thaorn> tyteen4a03: Already trying to login with AV down, and i try to login with firewall which ask me any in/out of my network, and it doesn't work
#2825 [16:03] <woodtech> does VoxelHead has a generic firewall quote?
#2826 [16:03] <Thaorn> VoxelHead: It's dangerous to install 2 antivirus in same time no?
#2827 [16:03] <lutzee> Thaorn, VoxelHead is a bot
#2828 [16:03] <woodtech> Thaorn: VoxelHead is a bot now
#2829 [16:03] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2830 [16:04] <lutzee> Thaorn, did you pay for your antivirus?
#2831 [16:04] <Thaorn> lutzee: woodtech : Oh i'm sorry, i'm idiot
#2832 [16:04] <woodtech> lutzee triggered a command, and VoxelHead responded on it
#2833 [16:04] <Jackson413> how did vox respond?
#2834 [16:04] <Thaorn> lutzee: Err, I don't pay, but I find my registering key (of my AV) on internet, so it's the real software with real keys and no cracks
#2835 [16:05] <lutzee> Jackson413, it has a listener that will filter out what we say commands a prefixed with ??
#2836 [16:05] <Thaorn> lutzee: Just like i'm paying in fact
#2837 [16:05] <lutzee> Thaorn, well as you haven
#2838 [16:05] <lutzee> haven't paid then you can remove the one you have and install the recommended avast ;)
#2839 [16:05] <Rikairchy> ew avast
#2840 [16:05] <Thaorn> lutzee: The things who embarassed me is that worked before, with this AV
#2841 [16:06] <Jackson413> lutzee, oh I though "he" did something just now that was funny
#2842 [16:06] <lutzee> Rikairchy, hush, it's advised by the channel and is easy to use, not everyone are geeks :p
#2843 [16:06] <Rikairchy> nou
#2844 [16:06] * acebladebi321 [acebladebi321@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2845 [16:07] <Rikairchy> Thaorn: your best bet is to deactivate all security software including Windows Firewall and 3rd-party firewalls
#2846 [16:07] <Morrolan> Eww, Avast.
#2847 [16:07] <toxictony> guys i need help
#2848 [16:07] <Morrolan> Use MSE or Avira. D:
#2849 [16:07] <xales> ^
#2850 [16:07] <Jackson413> mse?
#2851 [16:07] <Morrolan> Microsoft Security Essentials.
#2852 [16:07] <acebladebi321> hello guys can someone help me
#2853 [16:07] <Rikairchy> even MSE is better than avast
#2854 [16:07] <xales> Thaorn: If you are experiencing "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" uninstall every version of Java you have, and download Java 6 here:
#2855 [16:07] <Rikairchy> hi acebladebi321
#2856 [16:07] <xales> ??> Thaorn getjava
#2857 [16:07] <VoxelHead> Thaorn: (getjava) Deprecated. See ?? java/1.6
#2858 [16:07] <acebladebi321> hello
#2859 [16:07] <Thaorn> Rikairchy: I already try it :/
#2860 [16:07] <xales> :|
#2861 [16:07] <xales> ??> Thaorn java/1.6
#2862 [16:07] <VoxelHead> Thaorn: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2863 [16:07] <Jackson413> I've had avast for a while and I have not gotten AIDS for Window
#2864 [16:07] <Rikairchy> Thaorn: did it work?
#2865 [16:07] <acebladebi321> um i cant update minecraft in browser on my laptop
#2866 [16:08] <Jackson413> ohai xales, how've you been?
#2867 [16:08] <xales> acebladebi321: Use the download client.
#2868 [16:08] <xales> Jackson413: fine
#2869 [16:08] <acebladebi321> wats that
#2870 [16:08] <Thaorn> xales: Someone advice me to uninstall Java 7 and install java 6u33 and i did it two day ago, and it still doesn't work
#2871 [16:08] <acebladebi321> i cant download it sorry
#2872 [16:08] <Morrolan> acebladebi321 - Then client which you can grab on www.minecraft.net/download
#2873 [16:08] <xales> acebladebi321: Why not?
#2874 [16:08] <Thaorn> Rikairchy: Nope :/
#2875 [16:08] <acebladebi321> dont have permission
#2876 [16:08] <xales> Thaorn: Did you uninstall every version of Java, and install only Java 6?
#2877 [16:08] <xales> acebladebi321: Who would you need permission from?
#2878 [16:09] <acebladebi321> my parents but uh you know they wont
#2879 [16:09] <Thaorn> xales: All the Java SE version including x86 and x64 version, i keep my JDK (development kit)
#2880 [16:09] <xales> acebladebi321: You should ask them then. Even if you run the game in the browser, it still downloads it.
#2881 [16:09] <skyboy> if your computer is x64 you should only have x64 installed, not x86
#2882 [16:10] <acebladebi321> i know but like my dad doesnt want it on the destop
#2883 [16:10] <Rikairchy> not true, skyboy
#2884 [16:10] <Rikairchy> some programs aren't compatible with x64
#2885 [16:10] <Morrolan> acebladebi321 - Then put it in some folder. ;)
#2886 [16:10] <xales> Rikairchy: That doesn't make any sense.
#2887 [16:10] <acebladebi321> well wat i mean is that he doesnt want me downloading any programs
#2888 [16:10] <skyboy> Rikairchy: irrelevant. java is x64, not the programs launching java
#2889 [16:10] <Jackson413> Hey guise, I have a question, whenever I start up my computer, java comes out from its dark place and asks if I want to update to java 7 or something like that. Being in this room for a while, I have seen Java 7 denounced as it is not nearly as good as Java 6. I shouldn't be updating to Java 7 right?
#2890 [16:11] <Rikairchy> reinstall 6 if 7 gives you issues
#2891 [16:11] <Morrolan> With some people it works just fine, but it does like to cause issues, yes.
#2892 [16:11] <Morrolan> Feel free to try it out, Jackson413. If it doesn't work, you can always switch back to Java 6.
#2893 [16:11] <Thaorn> http://www.hapshack.com/images/NDm8l.png Here my all my installed java
#2894 [16:11] <xales> acebladebi321: If they don't want you to download things, then you can't play Minecraft. In order to update it, it has to be downloaded, either by the browser or manually.
#2895 [16:11] <Jackson413> What's so horribly wrong with it anyways?
#2896 [16:11] <Morrolan> Thaorn - You still have Java 7 installed, removed that one.
#2897 [16:12] <acebladebi321> i know so can i download it in browser or not
#2898 [16:12] <Thaorn> Morrolan: The JDK block the login?
#2899 [16:12] <xales> acebladebi321: It's no different than downloading the launcher and running it. Just do that.
#2900 [16:12] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Two issues I can think of right now. One: It uses IPv6 by default. WIth people whose ISP are stuch in the 19th century, this leads to "Can't connect to minecraft.net" issues.
#2901 [16:12] <skyboy> xales: it's just not wanted on the desktop. it can be downloaded, so long as there are no new desktop icons.
#2902 [16:12] <acebladebi321> because it starts downloading packages and then it says 0 percent and then it stops
#2903 [16:12] <Morrolan> Thaorn - The JDK is an extended version of the JRE. Now if Minecraft uses that one to start up, then yea.
#2904 [16:13] <Morrolan> Thaorn - You can also use a batch file and provide the path to Java 6, to make sure Minecraft uses that one.
#2905 [16:13] <Morrolan> If you know how to do that, then that's a better solution.
#2906 [16:13] <Thaorn> Morrolan: And why it works before? I will try the .bat !
#2907 [16:13] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - The second issue is one which I don't exactly know what it does, but it leads to one of the "Fatal error xyz" thingies I believe.
#2908 [16:13] <xales> ??> acebladebi321 win/reinst
#2909 [16:13] <VoxelHead> acebladebi321: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2910 [16:13] <VoxelHead> acebladebi321: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2911 [16:14] <acebladebi321> ok
#2912 [16:14] <Jackson413> ah
#2913 [16:14] <xales> Morrolan: It also has an architecture selection issue on Linux (the ELFCLASS32 thing)
#2914 [16:14] <Morrolan> Ah, okay. :)
#2915 [16:15] <Jackson413> Is there a performance difference/advantage provided that both versions work?
#2916 [16:15] * Red_Number_40 [Red_Number_40@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2917 [16:15] <xales> Morrolan: Which, by the way, can be solved by launching it like this (where $JAVA_HOME is set to the root of where Java is installed, not set by default on most distros) http://forevernothing.com/minecraft_launch.sh.txt
#2918 [16:15] <Morrolan> I had some people who said that Java 7 boosted performance a ton, and others claim that Java 6 was much faster. ^.^
#2919 [16:15] <Morrolan> Haven't really tested it myself I have to admit, so can't tell for sure, Jackson413.
#2920 [16:15] <Jackson413> ah
#2921 [16:15] <Morrolan> xales - I'll try to recall that one, if I see such an issue in the future.
#2922 [16:15] <Morrolan> xales - I'll try to recall that one, if I see such an issue in the future.
#2923 [16:16] * Red_Number_40 [Red_Number_40@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2924 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> xales: noted
#2925 [16:16] <xales> Morrolan: Most people capable of launching Minecraft from a terminal emulator on Linux are able to use Google, so I haven't seen it in here much.
#2926 [16:16] <Morrolan> Heh, true.
#2927 [16:17] <xales> :3
#2928 [16:17] <Jackson413> anyone know if there is a way to kill a task in the command line?
#2929 [16:17] <xales> Jackson413: Yes.
#2930 [16:17] <xales> Of course there is. ._.
#2931 [16:17] <oldtopman> Jackson413: Yes. "killall -KILL <processname>"
#2932 [16:17] * CreeperInferno [CreeperInferno@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2933 [16:17] <CreeperInferno> can someone help?
#2934 [16:17] <xales> oldtopman: -9 is shorter than -KILL :p
#2935 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> xales: can that shell script be found on google?
#2936 [16:17] <xales> CreeperInferno: Only if you tell us what the issue is...
#2937 [16:17] <CreeperInferno> im usng 64 bit java and minecraft is telling me i have 32...
#2938 [16:17] <Jackson413> brother and I are having a challenge: longest person to use windows commandline without the mouse gets $25
#2939 [16:17] <oldtopman> xales: KILL is easier to remember.
#2940 [16:17] <CreeperInferno> how do i fix this?
#2941 [16:18] <oldtopman> Jackson413: On windows?
#2942 [16:18] <Jackson413> yup
#2943 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: you're looking for taskkill then
#2944 [16:18] <CreeperInferno> its on mac
#2945 [16:18] <xales> CreeperInferno: Uninstall the 32-bit Java.
#2946 [16:18] <oldtopman> >.>
#2947 [16:18] <skyboy> CreeperInferno: ignore the warning, detection is not fool proof
#2948 [16:18] <CreeperInferno> i cant uninstall
#2949 [16:18] <Jackson413> oldtopman: yup ^_^
#2950 [16:18] <xales> CreeperInferno: If you are on a Mac, just ignore it then.
#2951 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> taskkill /IM ProcessName.exe
#2952 [16:18] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Can you tell me the line of code to precise the version of java i want to use? Can't find it on google... XD I guess something like java -Xmx3072M -Xms3072M -jar minecraft.jar ?
#2953 [16:18] <CreeperInferno> i cant use 64 bit and far render distance
#2954 [16:19] <Jackson413> I am winning I think because he has about 40 windows open and doesn't have a clue how to close them
#2955 [16:19] <skyboy> yes you can
#2956 [16:19] <xales> tyteen4a03: Nope, it's part of the Minecraft package in AUR.
#2957 [16:19] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Use the full path to your Java installation, instead of merely "java"
#2958 [16:19] <skyboy> just ignore the warning, CreeperInferno
#2959 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> xales: AUR?
#2960 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> how do i fix it
#2961 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> i cant use far render distance
#2962 [16:19] <xales> CreeperInferno: Do you have a 64-bit system?
#2963 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> yes
#2964 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: Alt+F4?
#2965 [16:19] <Morrolan> Thaorn - E.g. "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java -Xmx...."
#2966 [16:19] <xales> CreeperInferno: How do you know?
#2967 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> cause
#2968 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> its an intell mac
#2969 [16:19] <skyboy> ..
#2970 [16:19] <CreeperInferno> i got it in may 2012
#2971 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> CreeperInferno only/you
#2972 [16:19] <xales> That doesn't mean it's 64-bit.
#2973 [16:19] <VoxelHead> CreeperInferno: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#2974 [16:19] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Oh, ok, thanks a lot, i'll try it (damn, launching .jar and not the .exe :P)
#2975 [16:19] <Jackson413> tyteen4a03, the challenge is that you can only use the commandline
#2976 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> oops
#2977 [16:19] <xales> CreeperInferno: Ignore the warning, you cannot make it go away.
#2978 [16:20] <CreeperInferno> well how i play on far
#2979 [16:20] <CreeperInferno> ?
#2980 [16:20] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: no hotkeys? :P
#2981 [16:20] <skyboy> just ignore the red text
#2982 [16:20] <xales> CreeperInferno: You simply set the view distance to Far, and pretend there is no red text.
#2983 [16:20] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - No software launched from the command line?
#2984 [16:20] <skyboy> it's text, not a cop
#2985 [16:20] <CreeperInferno> fine,,, thatnks.
#2986 [16:20] <CreeperInferno> thanks.
#2987 [16:20] * roro [roro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2988 [16:20] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2989 [16:20] <xales> tyteen4a03: https://aur.archlinux.org/ :p
#2990 [16:20] <zzzz> aaand back
#2991 [16:21] <Morrolan> Hide, he's back, and remember: Don't give him any help!
#2992 [16:21] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#2992 [16:21] * Morrolan hides behind the nearest table
#2992 [16:21] <zzzz> i don't even need help!
#2993 [16:21] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#2993 [16:21] <Morrolan> Oh, okay then.
#2994 [16:21] <xales> tyteen4a03: Specifically, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39434
#2995 [16:21] * Morrolan comes out of his hiding
#2995 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> xales: that's Arch Linux's other package manager?
#2996 [16:21] <Morrolan> That's community-run packages.
#2997 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> I see
#2998 [16:22] <zzzz> oh
#2999 [16:22] <zzzz> god
#3000 [16:22] <zzzz> linux
#3001 [16:22] * zzzz hides behind nearest table
#3001 [16:22] <skyboy> zzzz: there are worse things
#3002 [16:22] <skyboy> zzzz: like macs
#3003 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: if you really want a challenge, go install Arch Linux
#3004 [16:22] * Morrolan hides behind the samel table zzzz did.
#3004 [16:22] * Chris|ZzZ bounces off and hits Morrolan in the eye
#3004 [16:22] <Morrolan> Sure is cozy here.
#3005 [16:22] * zzzz hides his macbook
#3005 [16:22] <lutzee> worse than linux? you are deluded ;)
#3006 [16:22] * Grim_Reaper hugs Chris
#3006 [16:22] <Jackson413> tyteen4a03, no thanks haha
#3007 [16:22] <xales> tyteen4a03: Arch isn't hard to install, it has hand-holdy instructions ._.
#3008 [16:22] <lutzee> er better*
#3009 [16:22] <xales> tyteen4a03: A better idea is "go build Gentoo from stage2"
#3010 [16:22] <Morrolan> xales - Hahaha.
#3011 [16:23] <xales> or if you really want to torture yourself, stage1
#3012 [16:23] <xales> ._.
#3013 [16:23] <Morrolan> Gentoo, I still haven't managed to set that one up.
#3014 [16:23] <Morrolan> Granted, after a bunch of failed attempts one year ago I decided not to bother anymore.
#3015 [16:23] <zzzz> my sister's trying to hook up a vhs player
#3016 [16:23] <zzzz> she can't do it
#3017 [16:23] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: there goes you newest challenge
#3018 [16:24] <zzzz> *facepalm*
#3019 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: installing Gentoo from stage 1
#3020 [16:24] <skyboy> zzzz: coaxial, component or AV?
#3021 [16:24] <Morrolan> I still remember the line in the documentation which said something like "After you've compiled your first dozen kernels, you'll think it to be a completely normal thing to do"
#3022 [16:24] <xales> Morrolan: I can't see the difference that compiling everything with native optimization being significant except on embedded platforms (where you do that anyway) and possibly netbooks.
#3023 [16:24] <zzzz> i dont even know
#3024 [16:24] <Jackson413> tyteen4a03, no idea what you're talking about. you've outnerded me ^_^
#3025 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: good
#3026 [16:24] <xales> lol "outnerded"
#3027 [16:24] <zzzz> i'm refusing to help, she's kicked me out of my mancave for her birthday party. i'm not feeling cooperative
#3028 [16:24] <Jackson413> :D
#3029 [16:24] <Thaorn> Morrolan: E:\Minecraft13>C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_31\jre\bin\ ms3072M -jar minecraft.jar 'C:\Program' n'est pas reconnu en tant que commande interne ou externe, un programme exécutable ou un fichier de commandes.
#3030 [16:25] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Put the path to Java in quotes.
#3031 [16:25] <Thaorn> Morrolan: The space between Program and Files seems to make it wrong
#3032 [16:25] <skyboy> zzzz: if it's coaxial she gets off for being female, and not knowing which tool to use to tighten the nuts [/probablyaccuratestereotyping]
#3033 [16:25] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Oh damn, i'm so idiot, thanks a lot !
#3034 [16:25] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Well, there you go. ;)
#3035 [16:26] <zzzz> wait
#3036 [16:26] <zzzz> wats the difference between component and av?
#3037 [16:26] * xales bbl
#3037 [16:26] <zzzz> is component stereo audio?
#3038 [16:26] <xales> zzzz: yes
#3039 [16:26] <skyboy> component has more cables
#3040 [16:26] <zzzz> k, i was gonna say. they're both audio/visual
#3041 [16:26] <zzzz> :P
#3042 [16:26] <skyboy> 3 for video, 2 for audio
#3043 [16:26] <xales> component can also be HD using 3 video and 2 audio, or SD with 1 video and 2 audio, AV is 1 and 1
#3044 [16:26] <xales> AFAIK
#3045 [16:26] <zzzz> kk
#3046 [16:26] <skyboy> AV has 1 for video, two for audio
#3047 [16:27] <zzzz> faiiirly sure its SD component
#3048 [16:27] <zzzz> i should know, it's mine lol
#3049 [16:27] <zzzz> i havent touched the thing in years
#3050 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> http://pastebin.com/A3WYfBdE
#3051 [16:28] <zzzz> wat
#3052 [16:28] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#3053 [16:28] <Thaorn> Morrolan: With 1.6 and all firewall turned off > "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#3054 [16:28] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Eh. Open a command prompt, do a "nslookup minecraft.net".
#3055 [16:28] <skyboy> also, i'm going off the manual for my TV for the difference between AV/component
#3056 [16:28] <Morrolan> Check whether it's able to resolve that domain name.
#3057 [16:29] <Thaorn> Morrolan: It make me crazy because it works fine before ! The last time i play was at the beginning of July !
#3058 [16:29] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#3059 [16:29] <zzzz> lol
#3060 [16:29] <Morrolan> skyboy - Haha, reminds me of http://xkcd.com/903/
#3061 [16:29] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Nom : minecraft.net Address: 50.16.203.217
#3062 [16:30] <zzzz> story of my life
#3063 [16:30] <Morrolan> Well, that looks just fine. I assume it can resolve login.minecraft.net as well?
#3064 [16:30] <zzzz> "omg zzzz you know EVERYTHING!" - normal person
#3065 [16:30] * zzzz sneaks back to google
#3065 [16:30] <skyboy> Morrolan: lol
#3066 [16:30] <zzzz> muahahahahahaha!
#3067 [16:31] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Réponse ne faisant pas autorité : Nom : auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com Addresses: 107.20.144.31 184.73.219.217 23.21.44.177 Aliases: login.minecraft.net
#3068 [16:31] <Morrolan> Yea, looks fine too.
#3069 [16:31] <skyboy> i've honestly never really looked into the terminology for AV/component
#3070 [16:31] <Morrolan> Good news, it's not your ISP doing silly things.
#3071 [16:31] <zzzz> french out of nowhere?
#3072 [16:31] <skyboy> i just use the handy-dandy color coded cables to put things together without screwing it up
#3073 [16:31] <zzzz> je ne parle pa france
#3074 [16:31] <zzzz> i think i spelled that right
#3075 [16:32] <Thaorn> Morrolan: On the launcher I can see the changelog fo the 1.3 so it's not a connection problem
#3076 [16:32] <zzzz> yea, i went out and glanced, she had the white in the red the red in the yellow and the yellow's missing
#3077 [16:32] <zzzz> i dont even
#3078 [16:32] <Morrolan> Thaorn - When you launch it with the .bat file you should have a detailled error in the console. Could you throw that one on pastebin?
#3079 [16:32] <Thaorn> Morrolan: My account is premium, and i can play and update minecraft by using my browser, but i can't login with the launcher
#3080 [16:32] <Thaorn> Morrolan: No problem i do this right now
#3081 [16:33] <zzzz> would that be a java problem?
#3082 [16:33] <skyboy> zzzz: the hell is she.. the hell did she... i. okay.
#3083 [16:33] <zzzz> yea, i turned 360 and went back in my room
#3084 [16:33] <skyboy> 180, you mean
#3085 [16:33] <zzzz> ...no
#3086 [16:33] <skyboy> 360 is a complete circile
#3087 [16:33] <zzzz> ...yes
#3088 [16:33] <skyboy> you'd be facing the same direction
#3089 [16:33] <zzzz> ...yes
#3090 [16:33] <zzzz> its an old meme, gimme a minute
#3091 [16:33] <skyboy> you'd have walked in there with her
#3092 [16:34] <lutzee> so if you are leaving, you'd end up still leaving
#3093 [16:34] <zzzz> its based on a .gif
#3094 [16:34] <zzzz> must find now
#3095 [16:34] <skyboy> probably something off /b/. i think i've seen it
#3096 [16:34] <skyboy> but this isn't /b/ :P
#3097 [16:35] * joshhep [joshhep@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3098 [16:35] <zzzz> its not off /b/ i think it originated there, but i think its funny
#3099 [16:36] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Damn, i have some trouble to understand how work the "copy" but i find it and here the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/XmzWJLR0
#3100 [16:36] <zzzz> the gif is a shitty animation from something, sidescroller, char walks in door, turns 360, and moonwalks out
#3101 [16:36] <joshhep> Hi, I was wondering if there was a fix for the corrupted error for Minecraft.app in Mountain Lion or if I just need to wait until Mojang signs the .app?
#3102 [16:36] <zzzz> hehe
#3103 [16:36] <Thaorn> Morrolan: As it's an error relative to SSL, i check, and my date and hour is the right one, 22:36 04/08/2012
#3104 [16:36] <zzzz> mountain lion
#3105 [16:37] * zzzz is running leopard
#3105 [16:37] <zzzz> like a sir
#3106 [16:37] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Right click the console -> select all -> hit enter, then it's in your clipboard automagically.
#3107 [16:37] <Morrolan> Err, I've seen that one not too long ago.
#3108 [16:37] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Yep, find it on google, thanks ^^
#3109 [16:37] <Morrolan> Also, time and date being correct rule out the most obvious culprit, grr.
#3110 [16:37] <joshhep> Right now I have to right click on Minecraft.app > Show Package Contents, navigation the the launcher jar, Right Click > Open.
#3111 [16:38] * naka [naka@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3112 [16:39] <zzzz> skyboy found a spinoff, cant find original
#3113 [16:39] <zzzz> http://i.imgur.com/P1opv.gif
#3114 [16:39] * Cookies [Cookies@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3115 [16:39] * barneygale [barneygale@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3116 [16:39] * tidaltrickster [tidaltrickster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3117 [16:40] <tidaltrickster> hey all
#3118 [16:40] <zzzz> oh god
#3119 [16:40] * zzzz runs for cover
#3119 [16:40] <Morrolan> Thaorn - The logfiles seem to fail me right now, and so does my memory.
#3120 [16:40] <xales> Morrolan: Could need a CA certificate update from Microsoft.
#3121 [16:41] <tidaltrickster> commands not working after update?
#3122 [16:41] <Morrolan> xales - Might be.
#3123 [16:41] <Thaorn> Morrolan: I find it : http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1266137-solved-can-not-log-in-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/ It could be the problem?
#3124 [16:41] <zzzz> a wild dog appears. and starts sitting on cords/comp/me. if i disappear that'll be why
#3125 [16:42] <Morrolan> Thaorn - If you're running ESET, then maybe.
#3126 [16:43] <zzzz> ick, dog needs a bath
#3127 [16:43] <zzzz> anyway, did you 3 who joined simultaneously need anything?
#3128 [16:43] * setrex [setrex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3129 [16:43] <zzzz> or you
#3130 [16:43] <tidaltrickster> commands not working after update?
#3131 [16:43] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Yes i am :/, so i keep searching deeper on google, thanks a lot, you're very very cool with me ! I hope i don't make your eye bleed with my english speaking, i'm verry sorry
#3132 [16:44] <setrex> hi - How can I play the demo on a mac?
#3133 [16:44] <zzzz> demo's borked
#3134 [16:44] <setrex> :(
#3135 [16:44] <skyboy> tidaltrickster: can you be a bit more vague?
#3136 [16:44] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Your English isn't horrible, we get much worse every day. :)
#3137 [16:44] <zzzz> i command you to be more specific
#3138 [16:44] <skyboy> zzzz: http://i.imgur.com/cYaSi.gif
#3139 [16:44] <zzzz> <lets see if it works>
#3140 [16:44] <Morrolan> Good luck with your Google search. If you're stuck, feel free to ask again later on, when others are here.
#3141 [16:45] <zzzz> haha
#3142 [16:45] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Thanks ^^
#3143 [16:45] <Morrolan> Lastly, xales might be able to provide you with further information about CA certificate updates, could also be worth a shot.
#3144 [16:45] <xales> Morrolan: Nope, it's eset :p
#3145 [16:45] * burntfrieser [burntfrieser@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3146 [16:45] <tidaltrickster> is there a problem? or is it difficult to understand? After I updated, I cant issue commands like for example set the time.
#3147 [16:45] <Thaorn> Morrolan: Sure, if i find the fix, i'm going to say it here, if it could be helpful...
#3148 [16:45] <Morrolan> xales - Haha, okay. ;D
#3149 [16:45] * Generalcamo [Generalcamo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3150 [16:45] <tidaltrickster> is that specific enough?
#3151 [16:45] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Indeed. :)
#3152 [16:45] <zzzz> were you issuing commands via mod?
#3153 [16:45] <Morrolan> When you do, highlight one of the ops, so we can add it to Vox for future reference.
#3154 [16:46] <tidaltrickster> no
#3155 [16:46] <skyboy> tidaltrickster: in SMP or SSP?
#3156 [16:46] <zzzz> ...wat
#3157 [16:46] <zzzz> ^
#3158 [16:46] <xales> Thaorn: Uninstalling ESET will fix it.
#3159 [16:46] <tidaltrickster> normal game survival
#3160 [16:46] <zzzz> -_-
#3161 [16:46] <skyboy> SMP or SSP?
#3162 [16:46] <Thaorn> xales: Thanks, but i prefer using a cracked version of minecraft as uninstall my AV :/
#3163 [16:46] <tidaltrickster> I dont know what that means
#3164 [16:46] <skyboy> multiplayer or singleplayer
#3165 [16:47] <xales> Thaorn: Or, perhaps use a different AV that doesn't break games, and that you can get legally? :p
#3166 [16:47] <tidaltrickster> single player
#3167 [16:47] <zzzz> (s)urvivial (s)ingle (p)layer or (s)urvival (m)ulti (p)layer
#3168 [16:47] <zzzz> you cant issue comments in ssp prior to 1.3 w/o mods bro
#3169 [16:47] <tidaltrickster> survival single player SSP
#3170 [16:47] <zzzz> pressing t didnt *do* anything
#3171 [16:47] <skyboy> prior to 1.3.1 you were using a mod, then. if single player commands was not updated for 1.36.1 or you did not update the mod/reinstall the mod, you must get it again
#3172 [16:47] <skyboy> however, we do not offer mod support.
#3173 [16:48] * burntfrieser [burntfrieser@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3174 [16:48] <Thaorn> xales: I don't play on offical server, just with friends, and i'm not a criminal to use cracked version of minecraft because i already buy 2 accounts, so i'm cool with my mind (i'm not sur if this expression exist in english, sorry if it's hard to understand me, i'm french)
#3175 [16:49] <tidaltrickster> Actually I'm new and I see people issuing commands. I didn't know any of that but thanks for clarifying.
#3176 [16:49] <lutzee> There are no "official minecraft servers" all are just people hosting them
#3177 [16:49] <burntfrieser> Hello, i am at a friends house for the week and the server that i have been working on has banned his ip, i do not want to reset the router but i will plead (but i dont know how to get ahold of them)
#3178 [16:49] <tidaltrickster> Have a nice day and thanks.
#3179 [16:49] <skyboy> tidaltrickster: other people? then you're on SMP
#3180 [16:49] <Thaorn> lutzee: I mean official server by server with "online-mode:true"
#3181 [16:50] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3182 [16:50] <skyboy> to issue commands in SMP, but must be a moderator on that server
#3183 [16:50] <tidaltrickster> no, not on my game. On youtube tutorials and stuff. I just wanted to try the same.
#3184 [16:50] <skyboy> they're using mods
#3185 [16:50] <burntfrieser> Is there some way i can have them ban his name instead of ip?
#3186 [16:51] <zzzz> fuck me. Rain put an inch of rain through my garage and my dad's being a douche because i didn't put the tent in the attic after camping a few weeks ago cuz getting in the attic's super hard, and now the tent's soaked. gotta go deal with this
#3187 [16:51] * AuBot kicked zzzz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: zzz :Please keep it civil.)
#3188 [16:51] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3189 [16:51] <burntfrieser> can someone help me? no rush.
#3190 [16:51] <zzzz> frieser, depends on the mod theyre using
#3191 [16:51] <skyboy> burntfrieser: we can not help you
#3192 [16:51] <lutzee> ?? ask
#3193 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3194 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3195 [16:52] <skyboy> lutzee: he asked.
#3196 [16:52] <zzzz> lol
#3197 [16:52] <burntfrieser> oh where should i look for an answer then?
#3198 [16:52] <skyboy> burntfrieser: we can not help you get in contact with the operators of any server
#3199 [16:52] <zzzz> also ?? burntfrieser mods
#3200 [16:52] <zzzz> whoops
#3201 [16:52] <zzzz> ?? burntfrieser mods
#3202 [16:52] <zzzz> wat
#3203 [16:52] <burntfrieser> i dont use mods
#3204 [16:52] <skyboy> burntfrieser: ask the operators of the server
#3205 [16:52] <zzzz> index
#3206 [16:52] <burntfrieser> how?
#3207 [16:52] <zzzz> ?? index
#3208 [16:52] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#3209 [16:53] <xales> burntfrieser: We don't know any more than you do.
#3210 [16:53] <skyboy> zzzz: he's talking about multiplayer servers, not single player
#3211 [16:53] <zzzz> yush, voxel's just being dumb
#3212 [16:53] <skyboy> uh, no
#3213 [16:53] <zzzz> well, im being dumb
#3214 [16:53] <Morrolan> ??>> zzzz help
#3215 [16:53] <burntfrieser> yeah multi player servers classic
#3216 [16:53] <Morrolan> No, zzz, you're using it wrong. ;D
#3217 [16:53] <zzzz> ah
#3218 [16:53] <Morrolan> zzzz*
#3219 [16:53] <zzzz> i forgot the >
#3220 [16:53] <zzzz> :)
#3221 [16:53] <zzzz> ??> burntfrieser mods
#3222 [16:53] <VoxelHead> burntfrieser: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3223 [16:53] <VoxelHead> burntfrieser: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#3224 [16:53] <zzzz> weee
#3225 [16:53] <skyboy> ??< help
#3226 [16:53] <burntfrieser> so how do i contact anyone?
#3227 [16:54] <burntfrieser> im not askking about a mod
#3228 [16:54] <skyboy> zzzz: that entry does not offer any help to him.
#3229 [16:54] <zzzz> no, but it still makes me giggle
#3230 [16:54] <skyboy> burntfrieser: we do not know. we do not control any servers.
#3231 [16:54] <burntfrieser> you are no help at all
#3232 [16:54] <zzzz> plus, server blacklists are mods by default
#3233 [16:54] <zzzz> sooooooooooo
#3234 [16:54] <xales> zzzz: wat
#3235 [16:55] <skyboy> that still doesn't help him, zzzz
#3236 [16:55] <zzzz> wat just happened
#3237 [16:55] <lutzee> The bot muted you
#3238 [16:55] <xales> you put too many 'o's next to each other
#3239 [16:55] <zzzz> srs
#3240 [16:55] <skyboy> it does that
#3241 [16:55] <xales> i.e. VoxelHead has something against Star Trek.
#3242 [16:55] <xales> i.e. KHHHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
#3243 [16:55] <lutzee> yes,
#3244 [16:55] <zzzz> lol
#3245 [16:56] <zzzz> voxel doesnt seem like a very fun guy
#3246 [16:56] <xales> not at all :(
#3247 [16:56] <skyboy> it's a bot
#3248 [16:56] <zzzz> ...norly?
#3249 [16:56] <lutzee> ofcourse +q does nothing against op's right xales ?
#3250 [16:56] * Salihu [Salihu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3251 [16:57] <skyboy> anyone with +o or +v is immune to +q
#3252 [16:57] <xales> lutzee: Correct, +v and +o override modes that prevent sending to a channel (+q, +b, +m, etc)
#3253 [16:57] <zzzz> anyway, i have to go deal with waterlogged tents -_-
#3254 [16:57] <xales> zzzz: Have fun :D
#3255 [16:57] <zzzz> and in about 30 minutes my basement (man cave) will be flooded by preteen girls. save me
#3256 [16:58] <zzzz> if i change my name to away will someone get angryface?
#3257 [16:58] <xales> :O
#3258 [16:58] <xales> probably not
#3259 [16:59] <Thaorn> Morrolan: I think i will send a ticket to the support, and continue to use cracked version of minecraft for the moment
#3260 [16:59] * findow [findow@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3261 [16:59] <findow> hello?
#3262 [16:59] <findow> can someone help me with a problem?
#3263 [16:59] <lutzee> Thaorn, have you touched the hosts file at all?
#3264 [16:59] <xales> Thaorn: It's a problem with eset, not Minecraft.
#3265 [16:59] <lutzee> ??> findow ask
#3266 [16:59] <VoxelHead> findow: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3267 [16:59] <VoxelHead> findow: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3268 [16:59] <Thaorn> xales: sure?
#3269 [16:59] <Thaorn> lutzee: I don't think so
#3270 [17:00] <Morrolan> lutzee - Resolves just fine from the command line, so doubtful.
#3271 [17:00] <lutzee> ?? win/hosts
#3272 [17:00] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#3273 [17:00] <findow> i had this world i played for a long time with a friend of mine
#3274 [17:00] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#3275 [17:00] <lutzee> Morrolan, still worth checking
#3276 [17:00] <Morrolan> Thaorn - Seeing as how that guy on the forum managed to fix it by uninstalling ESET, chances are good.
#3277 [17:00] <findow> sometimes it had a java read error or something
#3278 [17:00] <findow> it started with that
#3279 [17:00] <findow> and now my world just keeps at downloading terrain
#3280 [17:00] <findow> other worlds work fine
#3281 [17:00] <findow> except this one
#3282 [17:00] <xales> findow: Is the server running the same version as you?
#3283 [17:01] <findow> yeah
#3284 [17:01] <findow> it's my server
#3285 [17:01] <findow> downloaded newest server
#3286 [17:01] <findow> i made a new world and that worked out fine except that world
#3287 [17:01] <xales> Does it say 1.3.1 when it starts up, and are you running 1.3.1 on the client as well?
#3288 [17:01] <findow> yeah i am
#3289 [17:01] <Thaorn> Morrolan: If a lot of people report problems with AV (i see that AVG can make it bug too), maybe the minecraft dev team will fix it ?
#3290 [17:02] <xales> Thaorn: It's a problem with the antivirus programs, it is not something they can fix.
#3291 [17:02] <Rikairchy> its not Minecraft that needs to fix it
#3292 [17:02] <Morrolan> The culprit with AVG is its linkscanner module, Mojang can't do much about that.
#3293 [17:02] * connor_2323 [connor_2323@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3294 [17:02] <findow> i can play other worlds on the same server except for one which just will not download terrain
#3295 [17:02] * bob12 [bob12@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3296 [17:03] <xales> findow: The world is likely corrupt, then.
#3297 [17:03] <connor_2323> hi
#3298 [17:03] <findow> can i fix it?
#3299 [17:03] <connor_2323> i need ehlp
#3300 [17:03] <Thaorn> xales: As using another way to use SSL connection?
#3301 [17:03] <connor_2323> help
#3302 [17:03] <gv> False positive issues can't be solved by mojang
#3303 [17:03] <xales> Thaorn: There isn't "another way", it doesn't work like that.
#3304 [17:03] <gv> connor_2323: with
#3305 [17:03] <connor_2323> i cant startup minecraft because of 'java virtual machine launcher'
#3306 [17:03] <Thaorn> xales: So it's useless to just inform them that it's not working?
#3307 [17:04] <xales> Thaorn: That is correct. If you want it to work normally, uninstall ESET. There is nothing else that can be done.
#3308 [17:04] <xales> connor_2323: Has it worked before?
#3309 [17:04] <connor_2323> nope
#3310 [17:04] <findow> xales: is a corrupted world fixable?
#3311 [17:04] <xales> findow: Sometimes, sometimes not.
#3312 [17:04] <gv> connor_2323: uninstall and reinstall java connor_2323
#3313 [17:04] <connor_2323> ive tried, it does nothing
#3314 [17:04] <findow> xales: how do i figure out?
#3315 [17:04] <xales> connor_2323: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3316 [17:05] <xales> findow: Try to fix it. You can find guides on the Internet.
#3317 [17:05] <zzzz|away> 256kb
#3318 [17:05] <Thaorn> xales: Ok, i'm glad that my antivirus is working, it block my games too, but it works XD Thanks a lot !
#3319 [17:05] <zzzz|away> oops
#3320 [17:05] <connor_2323> 6gb, but it was recently repaired and says that only 2.61gb is usable
#3321 [17:05] <findow> xales: tried most guides will look for some more now i know the exact problem
#3322 [17:05] <zzzz> someone dun infected your compooter.
#3323 [17:05] <zzzz> not really, dont freak out
#3324 [17:06] <xales> connor_2323: That would likely be the problem. Ask whomever "repaired" it to fix it properly.
#3325 [17:06] <zzzz> ^
#3326 [17:06] <connor_2323> ok, thanks
#3327 [17:06] <zzzz> for starters check to make sure your ram sticks are actually in
#3328 [17:06] <connor_2323> is there nothing alse i can do?
#3329 [17:06] <zzzz> dyou know how many you have?
#3330 [17:06] <connor_2323> *else
#3331 [17:06] <lutzee> zzzz they must be, windows will say they are, but might not use them
#3332 [17:06] <lutzee> connor_2323, what version of windows are you using?
#3333 [17:06] <connor_2323> 7
#3334 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> connor_2323: 32bit or 64bit?
#3335 [17:07] <zzzz> does it say there's 6gb but only 2.61gb usable?
#3336 [17:07] <lutzee> Do you know what exact version, home premium? home starter?
#3337 [17:07] <connor_2323> 32bit i i think
#3338 [17:07] * skyboy mentions something about too many cooks in the kitchen
#3338 [17:07] <xales> ^
#3339 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> connor_2323 win/dxdiag/bat
#3340 [17:07] <lutzee> if it is 32bit then it will only read 3.2gb of ram
#3341 [17:07] <VoxelHead> connor_2323: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#3342 [17:07] <VoxelHead> connor_2323: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#3343 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> skyboy: yup
#3344 [17:08] <zzzz> that's useful. also skyboy that's why i shut up :)
#3345 [17:08] <connor_2323> ok, hold on
#3346 [17:08] <Morrolan> Windows DxDiag Collector? What a fancy name. :D
#3347 [17:08] <lutzee> then a portion of that will be assigned as hardware reserved
#3348 [17:08] <zzzz> all these preteen girls just were told our wifi password, so i'm having some fun of my own
#3349 [17:09] * Findow [Findow@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3350 [17:09] <skyboy> lutzee: incorrect. 32 bit can use up to 2 GB or 4 GB, depending on the OS
#3351 [17:09] <Jackson413> !isdown
#3352 [17:09] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#3353 [17:09] <Jackson413> !lgin
#3354 [17:09] <Jackson413> !login
#3355 [17:09] <lutzee> skyboy, it never reads 4gb though
#3356 [17:09] <lutzee> max it will read is 3.2
#3357 [17:09] <skyboy> lutzee: OS dependent.
#3358 [17:10] <xales> skyboy: Do you think someone with this problem would be using anything but Windows?
#3359 [17:10] <xales> OS X turns PAE on automatically, or something else like that.
#3360 [17:10] <zzzz> random, question. does anyone know if minecraft in-browser works on safari?
#3361 [17:10] <xales> zzzz: It might, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
#3362 [17:10] <skyboy> xales: different versions of windows react differently too. XP pro and XP home have different limits, for example
#3363 [17:11] <xales> skyboy: but never more than 3.2GB :p
#3364 [17:11] <zzzz> i was just trying to run it yesterday on my firefox, but it didnt work, wasnt surprised, lots of addons that dont like java. But it didnt work in vanilla safari either
#3365 [17:11] <Thaorn> xales : i turn of the SSL scanning of ESET by "asking if not visited yet", and i define an exception for *.minecraft.net and it doesn't work
#3366 [17:11] <xales> Thaorn: You have to *completely uninstall* it. We've already said this.
#3367 [17:12] <lutzee> I know what i'm talking about i'm still using an old pentium 4 32bit CPU :p
#3368 [17:12] <connor_2323> are you sure i should paste this, it seems a bit private
#3369 [17:12] <Thaorn> xales: Sorry, i'm thinking it could be a way of solving the problem to disable just the SSL scanning, i'm very sorry
#3370 [17:12] <skyboy> lutzee: i have a celeron :P
#3371 [17:12] <skyboy> connor_2323: it's not private
#3372 [17:13] <connor_2323> i just dont want to be hacked
#3373 [17:13] <zzzz> who here would hack you?
#3374 [17:13] <Findow> xales: coming back on that corrupted world
#3375 [17:13] <connor_2323> there could be important info on it
#3376 [17:13] <lutzee> connor_2323, there is no information in that, that will give us any possibility of hacking into your PC
#3377 [17:13] <skyboy> connor_2323: you're not going to get hacked based on information in a dxdiag report
#3378 [17:13] <xales> connor_2323: Nothing in there could be used to compromise security, nor identify you.
#3379 [17:13] <Findow> xales: a site that shows my seed of the world says that my seed is malformed
#3380 [17:13] <Findow> xales: can i still get my world back?
#3381 [17:13] <xales> connor_2323: Just like telling us what make and color of car you have, will not help us steal it from you.
#3382 [17:13] <xales> Findow: Uh, probably not then.
#3383 [17:14] <Findow> xales: damn it!
#3384 [17:14] <xales> Findow: Unless you have a backup. :p
#3385 [17:14] <lutzee> connor_2323, if you are worried then here is mine http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/DxDiag.txt
#3386 [17:14] <Findow> xales: i dont :'(
#3387 [17:14] <xales> Findow: Well, now you know to have those for the future.
#3388 [17:15] <lutzee> you can us nbtedit to look at the world seed i believe
#3389 [17:15] <Findow> xales: thanks anyway
#3390 [17:15] <Findow> xales: we'll start over then
#3391 [17:15] <Findow> cya
#3392 [17:15] <zzzz> anyone know how to throw text popups onto an itouch over lan?
#3393 [17:15] <zzzz> <completely unrelated to mc>
#3394 [17:16] <skyboy> google does!
#3395 [17:16] <zzzz> google just gives me jailbreak crap
#3396 [17:16] <connor_2323> ok
#3397 [17:16] <connor_2323> ive pasted it, what do i do from here?
#3398 [17:16] <lutzee> zzzz hope that imessage is active and send it an iMessage? ;)
#3399 [17:16] <skyboy> give us the link to the paste
#3400 [17:16] <xales> connor_2323: Give us the link to it.
#3401 [17:16] <zzzz> honestly dont even know what iMessage is
#3402 [17:16] <zzzz> lol
#3403 [17:17] <zzzz> oh god... the squealing has begun
#3404 [17:17] <connor_2323> should i submit then paste the url or paste t=
#3405 [17:17] * zzzz dons heaphones
#3405 [17:17] <connor_2323> it as it is
#3406 [17:17] * zzzz blasts electronica
#3406 [17:17] <xales> connor_2323: Click submit, then paste the URL, yes.
#3407 [17:17] <connor_2323> http://pastebin.com/nGn8xnaA
#3408 [17:19] <lutzee> ._. 64bit cpu running 32 bit windows
#3409 [17:19] <xales> connor_2323: Yeah. You should go back to whomever "repaired" it and tell them to install 64-bit Windows. You can only use about 2.5GB of the 6GB of RAM because of that.
#3410 [17:20] <zzzz> hooray computer "repair"men
#3411 [17:20] * Jay_Dubb [Jay_Dubb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3412 [17:20] <Jay_Dubb> Is the 1.3.1 demo mode borked? I can't seem to get it to work, I see several forum posts with the same 'updating - done loading' error, but no resolution?
#3413 [17:20] <lutzee> Jay_Dubb, yes this is a known probelm
#3414 [17:20] <lutzee> problem*
#3415 [17:20] <xales> Jay_Dubb: That's correct, the demo is not functioning at the moment.
#3416 [17:21] <connor_2323> ok thanks
#3417 [17:21] <Jay_Dubb> ah, ok
#3418 [17:21] <Jay_Dubb> where should I check for a notice when it's fixed?
#3419 [17:21] <zzzz> skyboy, google's not being helpful :(
#3420 [17:21] <zzzz> i was gonna have to much fun
#3421 [17:21] <xales> Jay_Dubb: Probably the "Version Changes" or whatever it's called on the wiki.
#3422 [17:22] <zzzz> or buy the game. its only 20 euros, and its totally worth the investment :)
#3423 [17:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jay_Dubb demo
#3424 [17:23] <VoxelHead> Jay_Dubb: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3425 [17:23] <VoxelHead> Jay_Dubb: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#3426 [17:23] <tyteen4a03> Use this for now
#3427 [17:24] <Jay_Dubb> heh, well when I saw there was a demo, I thought I'd give it a whirl first ;-)
#3428 [17:24] <connor_2323> by the way, how do ya know its a 64bit cpu?
#3429 [17:25] <Jay_Dubb> gee, VoxelHead, why didn't I think of that :-P
#3430 [17:25] <zzzz> is my interwebs still running?
#3431 [17:25] <zzzz> ¿
#3432 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> Jay_Dubb: it's not really well-known, and VoxelHead's a bot
#3433 [17:25] <Jay_Dubb> I thought as much
#3434 [17:26] <Morrolan> ??> xales changelog
#3435 [17:26] <VoxelHead> xales: (changelog) The changelog of the latest stable version can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#3436 [17:26] <Morrolan> Tadaa. :D
#3437 [17:26] <Morrolan> You were pretty close. :)
#3438 [17:26] <Jay_Dubb> :-)
#3439 [17:27] <xales> anyway
#3440 [17:27] * xales will be back in a bit
#3440 [17:27] <Jay_Dubb> I'll keep an eye on that page, thanks
#3441 [17:28] <zzzz> i guess i have to resort to mac banning their ipods one by one and listening to them freak out :/
#3442 [17:29] <Morrolan> Huh?
#3443 [17:29] <Morrolan> Oh, nevermind.
#3444 [17:29] <zzzz> lol
#3445 [17:29] <Morrolan> "mac" as in "MAC address"
#3446 [17:29] <zzzz> mhm
#3447 [17:29] <zzzz> i highly doubt any of them will know how to spoof it, so the interwebs are MINE MUAHAHAHAHAHA
#3448 [17:30] * Cobra_Fett [Cobra_Fett@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3449 [17:30] * Cobra_Fett [Cobra_Fett@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3450 [17:30] * Jay_Dubb [Jay_Dubb@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3451 [17:30] <Cobra_Fett> im trying to replace the custom fire and lava in a texture pack
#3452 [17:30] <Cobra_Fett> and it just says its being used by something else
#3453 [17:30] <zzzz> ?
#3454 [17:30] <zzzz> the file's being used by something else?
#3455 [17:30] <Cobra_Fett> then makes a file called rzi_then a number
#3456 [17:30] <Cobra_Fett> in my texture packs folder
#3457 [17:31] * ChrisH202 [ChrisH202@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3458 [17:31] <ChrisH202> Hey guys
#3459 [17:31] * zzzz bows out, motions to others
#3459 [17:31] <Cobra_Fett> ....
#3460 [17:31] <ChrisH202> how does the gifting work for minecraft? I want to buy it for my friend :)
#3461 [17:32] <Cobra_Fett> any help?
#3462 [17:32] <Cobra_Fett> you buy a code....
#3463 [17:32] <zzzz> i've no clue, sorry cobra. i'm also one of the less knowledgeable people here
#3464 [17:32] <zzzz> so wait a sec for someone else to come back
#3465 [17:32] <zzzz> chris, you basically pay for a prepaid code which you then give your friend
#3466 [17:32] <ChrisH202> ahh okay thanks z
#3467 [17:33] <ChrisH202> just I bought it and it said my account was upgraded and it made me wonder
#3468 [17:33] <zzzz> o.O
#3469 [17:33] <zzzz> did you accidentally buy it for yourself?
#3470 [17:33] * Elystus [Elystus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3471 [17:35] <Cobra_Fett> i got it fixed :D
#3472 [17:35] <Cobra_Fett> bye
#3473 [17:38] * hdon_ [hdon_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3474 [17:40] <ChrisH202> no i did not
#3475 [17:40] <ChrisH202> i clicked on the gift option
#3476 [17:40] <ChrisH202> the huge thing on the right
#3477 [17:40] <ChrisH202> so i'm waiting for the email to see whats happening
#3478 [17:40] <lutzee> ChrisH202, you should recieve an email with the gift code in
#3479 [17:41] <ChrisH202> thanks lutzee
#3480 [17:41] <lutzee> if you don't get one then look at minecraft.net/profile
#3481 [17:41] <lutzee> should appear at the bottom
#3482 [17:42] * frdmn|afk [frdmn|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3483 [17:42] <zzzz> hey smanly
#3484 [17:42] <zzzz> problem's all fixed
#3485 [17:42] <ChrisH202> thanks lutzee ! right where you said it was :)
#3486 [17:42] <zzzz> apparently it was janky bukkit stuff
#3487 [17:42] <zzzz> still not sure why it was only me, but its working now
#3488 [17:43] <Smanly> Noice
#3489 [17:45] <ChrisH202> No way to change my name on MC is there?
#3490 [17:45] <woodtech> nope
#3491 [17:46] <woodtech> unless you throw money at the problem
#3492 [17:46] <Elystus> nope
#3493 [17:46] <zzzz> use /nick
#3494 [17:46] <zzzz> on most servers
#3495 [17:46] <zzzz> other than that
#3496 [17:46] <zzzz> nope
#3497 [17:46] * matagin [matagin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3498 [17:46] <zzzz> voxel, i think we need to come to some sort of understanding
#3499 [17:46] * REDEJSF [REDEJSF@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3500 [17:47] <REDEJSF> HELP AYUDA BAD VIDEO CARD DRIVERS
#3501 [17:47] <Morrolan> OH NOES, WHAT COULD THAT POSSIBLY BE.
#3502 [17:47] <zzzz> TURN OFF CAPS LOCK AND UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS
#3503 [17:47] <zzzz> also, redundant redundancy is redundant
#3504 [17:47] <REDEJSF> ESTAN ACTUALIZADOS
#3505 [17:47] <woodtech> step 1 was very important to fix the problem ;-)
#3506 [17:48] <REDEJSF> ACTUALIZ
#3507 [17:48] <Morrolan> *ahum*
#3508 [17:48] <Morrolan> It's the big key on the left you're looking for.
#3509 [17:48] <REDEJSF> THIS UPDATED
#3510 [17:48] <Smanly> Wat
#3511 [17:48] <Morrolan> *cough*
#3512 [17:48] * Morrolan twitches
#3512 [17:48] <zzzz> it might even have a green light on it
#3513 [17:48] <Smanly> Or let go of your shift/
#3514 [17:48] <Elystus> This video may be useful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpArAtkAzz4
#3515 [17:49] <Morrolan> Hahaha.
#3516 [17:49] <zzzz> have you ever tried typing something lengthy with shift? its hilariously awful
#3517 [17:49] <ChrisH202> HHAHAHA
#3518 [17:49] <ChrisH202> oh my god
#3519 [17:49] <Smanly> How do you make capital numbers?
#3520 [17:49] <Elystus> !
#3521 [17:49] <Morrolan> + <- Capital 1. :D
#3522 [17:49] <zzzz> nooo
#3523 [17:50] * zzzz hides from voxe
#3523 [17:50] <Morrolan> Three letters don't trigger it yet.
#3524 [17:50] <Morrolan> It's somewhere at five or six, I believe.
#3525 [17:50] <Morrolan> VVVVVV
#3526 [17:50] <REDEJSF> tengo un problema con los controladores ayuda me dice bad video card drivers
#3527 [17:50] <Morrolan> Seems we can safely talk about that game then.
#3528 [17:50] <Morrolan> We don't speak Spanish here, REDEJSF.
#3529 [17:50] <zzzz> so what i'm getting is, it's time for... SCIENCE?
#3530 [17:51] <Morrolan> No hablo espanol. ;D
#3531 [17:51] <zzzz> wtf does controllers have to do with anything?
#3532 [17:51] <REDEJSF> I have a problem with me says minecraft
#3533 [17:51] <zzzz> hablo un pequito espanol
#3534 [17:51] <REDEJSF> bad video card driver
#3535 [17:51] <REDEJSF> s
#3536 [17:51] * Elystus tries to understand with his 2 years of High School Spanish.
#3536 [17:51] <Morrolan> Spanish for "Driver" I'd say.
#3537 [17:51] <Morrolan> REDEJSF - Update your drivers.
#3538 [17:52] <Morrolan> Your video drivers, that is.
#3539 [17:52] <REDEJSF> but are updated
#3540 [17:52] <zzzz> delete them first then update
#3541 [17:52] <Morrolan> How did you update them?
#3542 [17:52] <zzzz> also, yea. 3 years for me
#3543 [17:52] <zzzz> worst grades of my HS career so far
#3544 [17:52] <Elystus> zzzz: Spanish = the only class I ever got a C in .-.
#3545 [17:52] <Morrolan> Heh, I regret not having picked Italian or Spanish in Highschool. :)
#3546 [17:53] <zzzz> spanish = only class i ever got a D in
#3547 [17:53] <Morrolan> Especially Italian would be nice for holidays in Italy.
#3548 [17:53] <zzzz> except one tri of algebra 2 freshmen year, but that was because teach hated me
#3549 [17:53] <zzzz> lol
#3550 [17:54] <Elystus> Lol, math >_>
#3551 [17:54] <zzzz> apparently i'm good at it
#3552 [17:54] <Elystus> My favorite class.
#3553 [17:54] <Elystus> it's my sleeping class.
#3554 [17:54] <zzzz> i'm a big supporter of the "i liked math before they threw the alphabet in" party
#3555 [17:54] <Smanly> >doesn't speak english
#3556 [17:54] <Smanly> >Doesn't understand us
#3557 [17:54] <Smanly> >excpect us to understand and help him.
#3558 [17:54] <zzzz> also, calculus and linear algebra make my head hurt :(
#3559 [17:54] <Elystus> I like the alphabet in it.
#3560 [17:55] <Elystus> zzzz: D: Calculus was fun!
#3561 [17:55] <zzzz> but i have no math this (senior) year, :D
#3562 [17:55] <Morrolan> Maths is fun, until you reach a certain level.
#3563 [17:55] <zzzz> i took ap calc bc
#3564 [17:55] <Smanly> Oh, so you are soon to be of age! :D
#3565 [17:55] <zzzz> 10 days, as a matter of fact
#3566 [17:55] <zzzz> lol
#3567 [17:55] <Smanly> \o/
#3568 [17:55] <woodtech> we should change the topic of this channel into math, because someone we tried to help doesn't understand english
#3569 [17:56] <woodtech> I don't get it
#3570 [17:56] <zzzz> math is universal!
#3571 [17:56] <zzzz> unless theyre russian
#3572 [17:56] <Smanly> Wat?
#3573 [17:56] <woodtech> :p
#3574 [17:56] * Derekf0691 [Derekf0691@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3575 [17:56] <zzzz> also
#3576 [17:56] <Morrolan> In Russia, two can be bigger than two-hundred.
#3577 [17:56] <zzzz> basement full of 12 year old girls singing along to "like a g6" but only the alcohol bits
#3578 [17:56] <Morrolan> (See voting)
#3579 [17:56] * zzzz facepalms so hard
#3579 [17:57] <zzzz> hahahahahhaha
#3580 [17:57] <Elystus> Lol
#3581 [17:57] <zzzz> also, partially as a result of the cold war, they have their own names and in some cases notations for EVERYTHING
#3582 [17:57] <zzzz> because they didnt want to be like those dirty capitalists
#3583 [17:57] <Smanly> lol, we have trapped zzzz in here.
#3584 [17:57] * wswiss [wswiss@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3585 [17:57] <wswiss> hello
#3586 [17:58] <wswiss> Im getting an error about libjawt.so being missing
#3587 [17:58] <zzzz> again, basement full of 12 year old girls. i've run out of better things to do, mc is boring too with nobody on the server
#3588 [17:58] <wswiss> where might i find it
#3589 [17:59] <zzzz> in the jar?
#3590 [17:59] * tryy3 [tryy3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3591 [17:59] <zzzz> now they're blasting a geico commercial. classy as [redacted, you're welcome voxel]
#3592 [18:00] <Smanly> zzzz, you should find a good server with a teamspeak to hang out in.
#3593 [18:01] <Smanly> That is, if you have a mic... and are willing to use it.
#3594 [18:02] * Geo [Geo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3595 [18:02] * matagin1 [matagin1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3596 [18:02] * matagin1 [matagin1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3597 [18:02] * Geo [Geo@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3598 [18:03] <zzzz> mac can't run mc, firefox, and any voice chat simultaneously :(
#3599 [18:03] <zzzz> 5 year old macbook
#3600 [18:03] <zzzz> like a boss
#3601 [18:03] * QueenHallie [QueenHallie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3602 [18:03] <lutzee> I have a teamspeak server, but it's off atm :p
#3603 [18:03] * Nomed [Nomed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3604 [18:03] <Smanly> Teamspeak is very easy to run. I bet you have skype open.
#3605 [18:04] <lutzee> Skype crashes my laptop outright
#3606 [18:04] <zzzz> me or lutz
#3607 [18:04] <lutzee> It's like the CPU just stops
#3608 [18:04] <Smanly> You, zzzz.
#3609 [18:04] <ChrisH202> what cpu do you have?
#3610 [18:05] <lutzee> amd athlon II 320P
#3611 [18:05] <Nomed> i want to ask somthing il wait my turn ok ty
#3612 [18:05] <lutzee> but i don't believe that is the problem
#3613 [18:05] <Smanly> Ask, Nomed.
#3614 [18:05] <Nomed> hello i want to tryout minecraft but i cant play the webbbased game it loads and gos to the title and then blackouts
#3615 [18:05] <Smanly> Do you mean Classic?
#3616 [18:06] <ChrisH202> try the demo
#3617 [18:06] <Nomed> yes
#3618 [18:06] <ChrisH202> and ah
#3619 [18:06] <Smanly> Have you read the topic?
#3620 [18:06] <lutzee> Smanly, thats not the same demo
#3621 [18:06] <lutzee> oh classic
#3622 [18:06] <lutzee> yeah
#3623 [18:06] <lutzee> we don't support it
#3624 [18:06] <QueenHallie> I can not connect to server in multiplayer since the 1.3.1 update, I updated my server...and now no one else can join??
#3625 [18:06] <Nomed> i cant download the demo it will only show a launcher
#3626 [18:06] <lutzee> ??> Nomed demo
#3627 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Nomed: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3628 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Nomed: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#3629 [18:07] <Smanly> There is a new Demo, but it does not work.
#3630 [18:07] <lutzee> QueenHallie, are they still on 1.2.5?
#3631 [18:07] <Nomed> ok i try ty
#3632 [18:07] <QueenHallie> No, it says my server is now running the 1.3.1
#3633 [18:07] <Smanly> the other players.
#3634 [18:08] <Smanly> and zzzz, I cant have a browser open when I play. Lags me out after a bit.
#3635 [18:08] * Kruss [Kruss@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3636 [18:08] <QueenHallie> He says he is also running 1.3.1
#3637 [18:08] <Elystus> That Demo factoid needs to be changed >_>
#3638 [18:08] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3639 [18:09] * derekf0691 [derekf0691@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3640 [18:09] <Smanly> yep
#3641 [18:09] <lutzee> Elystus, when they get it working on all platforms
#3642 [18:09] <lutzee> Currently a lot of problems
#3643 [18:09] <Elystus> is it not working on amc?
#3644 [18:09] <Elystus> mac*
#3645 [18:10] <lutzee> Mac seems just to be greyed out, windows half the time it won't download
#3646 [18:10] <Morrolan> ??+ demo/outdated|An outdated, Windows-Only version of the Minecraft demo can be found in this article: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/;;Direct download: http://is.gd/l507ow
#3647 [18:10] <Nomed> ok i tryt to download the demo but it will only show white screen to me when i start it
#3648 [18:11] * Luigy [Luigy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3649 [18:11] <Nomed> and the webbased version loads and blackouts after showing minecraft title
#3650 [18:11] <Nomed> i hope anybody can help me..
#3651 [18:12] <Morrolan> ??~ demo|In order to play Minecraft's demo, download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/download and log in with your account, then select "Play Demo".;;Note: As of today (05.08.2012) the demo is not working for many different people and OSes.
#3652 [18:12] <Morrolan> Nomed - The demo is not working properly for lots of people, currently.
#3653 [18:12] <zzzz> smanly i don't have skype open because if i have a voice chat running to my ram nukes itself
#3654 [18:12] <Nomed> i downloaded the demo but it wont start up after installing
#3655 [18:12] <QueenHallie> I have looked over countless youtube videos and posted multiple times in the forum....no one seems to be able to help....its very frustrating.
#3656 [18:12] <Morrolan> Chances are there's some severe bugs in there, which Mojang has to fix first.
#3657 [18:12] <zzzz> demo is borked
#3658 [18:13] <Nomed> i realy wanne try before buy
#3659 [18:13] <zzzz> demo's still borked :/
#3660 [18:13] <Smanly> But, that is skype, skype sucks ass. Team speak only uses 38,868k of my ram, lol.
#3661 [18:13] <zzzz> queen, what precisely is wrong?
#3662 [18:13] <zzzz> well
#3663 [18:13] <zzzz> i only *have* 2gb
#3664 [18:13] <QueenHallie> Don't buy it...I just bought it like a week ago, and now I can't play because of the update.
#3665 [18:14] <Smanly> Okay.
#3666 [18:14] <ChrisH202> i have 8 gig of ram and skype is fine for me
#3667 [18:14] <Smanly> QueenHallie -_-
#3668 [18:14] <Nomed> k
#3669 [18:14] <ChrisH202> lol
#3670 [18:14] <zzzz> this was a big update and there were a few loose ends they havent tied up queen
#3671 [18:14] <zzzz> patience is a virtue
#3672 [18:14] <zzzz> stfu chris :P
#3673 [18:14] <Nomed> u can only buy it with a creditcard right
#3674 [18:14] <Smanly> Skype is mostly an issue with CPU for me.
#3675 [18:14] <QueenHallie> After the update, no one can join my server
#3676 [18:14] <zzzz> or a prepaid card you can buy irl with cash
#3677 [18:14] <zzzz> or paypal
#3678 [18:14] <ChrisH202> ah
#3679 [18:14] <QueenHallie> we are both running on 1.3.1
#3680 [18:14] <ChrisH202> well me and my friend use skype for all gaming chat
#3681 [18:14] <zzzz> just dont use a credit card if you livein illinois
#3682 [18:14] <Nomed> wich prepaid card
#3683 [18:14] <Smanly> That is because you are doing something wrong, QueenHallie.
#3684 [18:15] <lutzee> zzzz no prepaid, never prepaid
#3685 [18:15] <zzzz> i hadnt know about that until a friend in illinois tried to buy game, and was like WTFFF >:(
#3686 [18:15] <lutzee> Prepaid cards are known to cause problems
#3687 [18:15] <ChrisH202> i did have a teamspeak set up but didn't see the need
#3688 [18:15] <zzzz> it was hilarious
#3689 [18:15] <Smanly> I bought the game fine in IL.
#3690 [18:15] <zzzz> queen, are you sure the server's running 1.3.1
#3691 [18:15] <lutzee> When playing with a few friends TS3 is very useful
#3692 [18:15] <QueenHallie> I figured that....but what is it??? I really want to fix it, I just dont know how....
#3693 [18:15] <zzzz> you cant buy with a credit card in illinois
#3694 [18:15] <QueenHallie> It says it is
#3695 [18:15] <zzzz> can anyone else connect?
#3696 [18:16] <lutzee> QueenHallie, what does your friend say happens when he tries to connect?
#3697 [18:16] <lutzee> s/he/they/
#3698 [18:16] <Elystus> zzzz: YOu didn't know about the purchasing problem in illinois?
#3699 [18:16] <QueenHallie> No, only me......he says he is running 1.3.1....when he tries to connect to my server, it says it cant reach my server
#3700 [18:16] <Smanly> Can you connect, QueenHallie?
#3701 [18:16] <QueenHallie> Yes
#3702 [18:17] <lutzee> QueenHallie, what's the IP address?
#3703 [18:17] <Smanly> With what IP?
#3704 [18:19] * QueenHallie [QueenHallie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3705 [18:19] <Nomed> can anybody help me why i cant play the webbased browsergame of minecraft classic, it loads perfect until the title then it blacks out, i tryt 3 diffrent browsers: Avant Browser, Internet Explorer, Opera
#3706 [18:19] <QueenHallie> Sorry...im back, closed the wrong window
#3707 [18:19] <lutzee> Nomed, probably a problem with java installation
#3708 [18:20] <lutzee> QueenHallie, what is the IP address of your server?
#3709 [18:20] <Nomed> i just updated it to latets version
#3710 [18:20] <zzzz> elystus i dont live in illinois, so i had no reason to lol
#3711 [18:20] <Elystus> zzzz: You can read up about it here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1235583-purchasing-problems-in-illinois-and-guam/
#3712 [18:21] <Smanly> What, you are serious?
#3713 [18:22] <QueenHallie> Is it safe to give it out? o_o
#3714 [18:22] <Nomed> so nobodys knows the problem? :(
#3715 [18:22] <Smanly> Hold on, QueenHallie.
#3716 [18:22] <Smanly> Which Ip do you use to connect?
#3717 [18:22] <Smanly> 192.168.###.###?
#3718 [18:23] <lutzee> Either way i'll check with the hostmask soon anyway
#3719 [18:23] <lutzee> !check 72.191.183.281
#3720 [18:23] * Guest [Guest@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3721 [18:23] <lutzee> looks like hosting then
#3722 [18:24] <QueenHallie> How can I fix it?
#3723 [18:24] <lutzee> QueenHallie, what IP address do you use to connect to your server?
#3724 [18:24] <Smanly> This is a hosted server?
#3725 [18:25] <zzzz> ahhhh, blissful silence. they all went outside.
#3726 [18:25] <Guest> i downloaded minecraft onto this computer, but when i try to join into the LAN game im trying to get into, the game comes up with an error message that says: out of memory. how do i fix it?
#3727 [18:25] <lutzee> Guest, how much ram do you have in the PC?
#3728 [18:25] <QueenHallie> I use the one you posted? and hosted, yes
#3729 [18:26] <zzzz> LAN is all sorts of derpy atm
#3730 [18:26] <Smanly> And you can connect, but others cant? and its 1.3.1?
#3731 [18:26] <lutzee> QueenHallie, er okay well neither of the ones we ssaid will be th IP
#3732 [18:26] <QueenHallie> Yes
#3733 [18:26] <Guest> yes there are three other ppl on it, but i cant get in
#3734 [18:26] <QueenHallie> -_- oh crud
#3735 [18:27] <lutzee> Guest, how much ram do you have in the PC?
#3736 [18:27] <Guest> idk how much ram this cp has, its not mine. how do i find that?
#3737 [18:27] <lutzee> ??> Guest win/dxdiag/bat
#3738 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#3739 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#3740 [18:27] <Nomed> can anybody help me why i cant play the webbased browsergame of minecraft classic, it loads perfect until the title then it blacks out, i tryt 3 diffrent browsers: Avant Browser, Internet Explorer, Opera and i just updated java
#3741 [18:28] <Guest> ok one moment
#3742 [18:28] <Elystus> Nomed: What version of Java do you have?
#3743 [18:28] <QueenHallie> Can I just reload minecraft and start again, making a brand new server with the 1.3.1??
#3744 [18:28] <Nomed> il check
#3745 [18:29] <zzzz> queen, wat did you say the IP was?
#3746 [18:30] <Nomed> Version 7 Update 5 im reinstalling it now
#3747 [18:30] <Smanly> You can QueenHallie, but it looks like either the server isnt up, the ip is wrong, or there are other connectivitly issues.
#3748 [18:31] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3749 [18:31] <zzzz> i think someone else was on to something thinking it was a local IP
#3750 [18:31] <zzzz> thats just my guess tho
#3751 [18:33] <Guest> http://pastebin.com/N1EuxScw
#3752 [18:33] <QueenHallie> Yeah, it was working fine before the update....i must of done something wrong when i updated the server
#3753 [18:33] <Nomed> i just reinstall latsst version but still the same
#3754 [18:34] <lutzee> Guest, your computer is at the ver bottum end of the recommended PC spec
#3755 [18:35] <Guest> lame
#3756 [18:36] <Nomed> :(
#3757 [18:36] * gaurav_ [gaurav_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3758 [18:36] <Nomed> can anybody help me why i cant play the webbased browsergame of minecraft classic, it loads perfect until the title then it blacks out, i tryt 3 diffrent browsers: Avant Browser, Internet Explorer, Opera and i just updated java
#3759 [18:36] <zzzz> brb, firefox scripts hurdurring again
#3760 [18:36] <zzzz> nomed, rad the top
#3761 [18:36] <zzzz> read
#3762 [18:36] <zzzz> "We do not support Classic..."
#3763 [18:36] <QueenHallie> This is why I won't buy another online game, I am not computer savy enough.....Thanks guys for your help! It is appreciated!!! :)
#3764 [18:37] <Smanly> Well, you are trying to run a server.
#3765 [18:37] <Nomed> i dont care if sombody could know the answer it woul be great i dont care anout u
#3766 [18:38] <Smanly> Thats not exactly a normally thing when playing the game.
#3767 [18:38] <Smanly> What Nomed?
#3768 [18:38] <Nomed> can anybody help me why i cant play the webbased browsergame of minecraft classic, it loads perfect until the title then it blacks out, i tryt 3 diffrent browsers: Avant Browser, Internet Explorer, Opera and i just updated java
#3769 [18:38] <Smanly> We cant help you Nomed.
#3770 [18:38] <Smanly> Sorry.
#3771 [18:38] <Nomed> :(
#3772 [18:39] * Eledore [Eledore@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3773 [18:39] <Smanly> Is there a classic channel?
#3774 [18:39] <QueenHallie> Yeah I know....its my own fault, it did work for awhile....love the game though, I just need a lamens manuel.
#3775 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> If you're playing classic on a mac, it doesn't work. If you're playing classic on java 7, it doesn't work.
#3776 [18:39] <Nomed> ok
#3777 [18:39] <tyteen4a03> ??< mac/classic
#3778 [18:40] <Nomed> pc
#3779 [18:40] <Smanly> Which version of java?
#3780 [18:40] <Nomed> and im on the latest java
#3781 [18:40] <Nomed> Version 7 Update 5
#3782 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Latest being..
#3783 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> That'll be why
#3784 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall 7, reinstall 6 instead
#3785 [18:40] <Nomed> ok so i try to load older version
#3786 [18:40] <Nomed> ok great
#3787 [18:40] <Nomed> thanks for the help _o_
#3788 [18:40] <Nomed> thanks for the help _o_
#3789 [18:41] * Nomed [Nomed@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3790 [18:46] * Starlight [Starlight@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3791 [18:47] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3792 [18:48] <Starlight> Hello! I'm working on a door, and I need two redstone signals.. One when I pull the lever and one with a delay.. Then when I want to close the door, it needs to reverse the delay thing.. Is that possible?
#3793 [18:49] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3794 [18:49] <Smanly> Anything is possible, Starlight.
#3795 [18:50] <Starlight> He he..
#3796 [18:50] <Starlight> How is itpossible?
#3797 [18:50] <Starlight> I use RedPower by the way..
#3798 [18:51] <Smanly> I really couldnt tell you throught chat :/
#3799 [18:51] <Smanly> I would havt to figure it out first then show you. lol
#3800 [18:51] <Starlight> Is there any search keywords I can use to find info about his?
#3801 [18:51] <Starlight> about this*
#3802 [18:52] <lutzee> Starlight, it's all about learning how redstone and logic works
#3803 [18:52] <Smanly> Watch lots of youtube vids.
#3804 [18:53] <lutzee> Look at cube hamester, he's very good and i believe he should have something that will work
#3805 [18:53] * zzzz [zzzz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3806 [18:53] <lutzee> he only uses vanilla but it should be able to be adapted for redpower
#3807 [18:53] <zzzz> guess who back, back...
#3808 [18:53] <Smanly> Is your MC name zzzz?
#3809 [18:54] <Starlight> Thanks lutzee.. I'll look at that..
#3810 [18:54] <zzzz> no
#3811 [18:54] <zzzz> lol
#3812 [18:54] <Starlight> I know basic redstone, but not how to invert a delay..
#3813 [18:54] <zzzz> wait, someone has redstone questions?
#3814 [18:54] <Smanly> yap
#3815 [18:55] <zzzz> also, sorry for te delay. ended up mining about a stack of obsidian lol
#3816 [18:55] <zzzz> whats the question?
#3817 [18:55] <zzzz> i'm fairly knowledgeable
#3818 [18:55] <Starlight> I'm working on a door, and I need two redstone signals.. One when I pull the lever and one with a delay.. Then when I want to close the door, it needs to reverse the delay thing..
#3819 [18:55] * Rich [Rich@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3820 [18:55] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3821 [18:55] <zzzz> wat
#3822 [18:55] <Rich> hello?
#3823 [18:56] <Smanly> ??>> Rich ask
#3824 [18:56] <zzzz> is it a wood door or an iron door or a piston door
#3825 [18:56] <lutzee> hello rich
#3826 [18:56] <Starlight> piston door..
#3827 [18:56] <Starlight> And I use RedPower
#3828 [18:56] <Rich> My sister and I are trying to start a LAN world, we're on the same WIFI, but none of us will show up
#3829 [18:56] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3830 [18:57] <Smanly> How are you starting it, Rich?
#3831 [18:57] <zzzz> i dont know anything about RedPower
#3832 [18:57] <Rich> logging onto Minecraft in the game, starting up a world, and Pausing the game and pressing Start LAN World
#3833 [18:57] <Starlight> It'
#3834 [18:57] <zzzz> but i dont really understand what you want
#3835 [18:58] <Starlight> s the same as vanilla, just more in smaller space..
#3836 [18:58] <zzzz> orly?
#3837 [18:58] <zzzz> i might have to look into that lol
#3838 [18:58] <Smanly> Rich, Lan games are still kinda broken.
#3839 [18:58] <Smanly> Not sure how to fix it.
#3840 [18:58] <Rich> Ok
#3841 [18:58] <Starlight> You have logic gates and what not..
#3842 [18:58] <Rich> I hope they fix it next patch then
#3843 [18:58] <lutzee> zzzz redpower is one of the best, well coded most advanced mods out there :p
#3844 [18:58] <Starlight> No limit on wire..
#3845 [18:58] <lutzee> Limit is 256 blocks
#3846 [18:59] <lutzee> or 300 i forget
#3847 [18:59] <Rich> Well thanks for the help, you guys enjoy your day
#3848 [18:59] <Rich> cya
#3849 [18:59] <Starlight> I agree with lutzee.. It's an amazing mod..
#3850 [18:59] <Smanly> For what, distance?
#3851 [18:59] <lutzee> basically far render limit
#3852 [18:59] <zzzz> well. i might have to play around with that. osx 10.5.x tends to hate mods tho... :/
#3853 [18:59] <zzzz> but i still dont understand your question
#3854 [19:00] <Smanly> Double pulse when opening then a revers double pulse?
#3855 [19:01] <Starlight> zzzz: What I'm trying to get is two redstone dust wires activated with a delay.. I mean the first wire should light up when I pull the lever and then a delay on the second wire.. Thats easy.. But when I shut off the lever, the wire with delay should go off first.. and then the wire without delay.. So basically reversing the delay..
#3856 [19:02] <Smanly> You need a reverse-er thing
#3857 [19:02] <zzzz> articulate
#3858 [19:02] <zzzz> detailed
#3859 [19:02] <zzzz> i like it
#3860 [19:02] <zzzz> :)
#3861 [19:02] <zzzz> ._.
#3862 [19:03] <Starlight> So how do I do that..? lol
#3863 [19:03] <Smanly> Ask youtube :D
#3864 [19:03] <zzzz> ^
#3865 [19:03] <zzzz> youtube knows all
#3866 [19:03] <zzzz> why particularly do you have both wires?
#3867 [19:03] <Starlight> What do you mean?
#3868 [19:04] <zzzz> hrm... do you know of any servers we could both get on in a creative area?
#3869 [19:04] <Smanly> I will paste bin a diagram, one sec.
#3870 [19:04] <zzzz> i find redstone's much easier to show than talk about
#3871 [19:04] <Smanly> ^ same with anbything
#3872 [19:05] <zzzz> not *necessarily*
#3873 [19:05] <zzzz> redstone's worse than most things
#3874 [19:05] <zzzz> same with electrical stuff in general, really
#3875 [19:05] <Starlight> He he, yes it is easier to show.. But I'm on a whitelisted server of a friend of mine.. :p
#3876 [19:05] <zzzz> also, 68 obsidian later in survival...
#3877 [19:05] <zzzz> yea, im on a small whitelist server im not sposed to invite people to
#3878 [19:06] <zzzz> although the guest world is creative
#3879 [19:06] <zzzz> but still not sposed to invite people :/
#3880 [19:06] <Starlight> Thats fine..
#3881 [19:06] <Smanly> 1 2 3
#3882 [19:06] <Smanly> #<#<#
#3883 [19:06] <Smanly> ^o^o^
#3884 [19:06] <Smanly> ###>#>#
#3885 [19:06] <zzzz> wat
#3886 [19:06] <Smanly> :D
#3887 [19:06] <zzzz> double wat
#3888 [19:06] <Starlight> I don't want to start one up right now.. I was hosting a server before.. :p
#3889 [19:07] <zzzz> fancy pantsy
#3890 [19:07] <Smanly> o=air >/^/</V= diode #=redstone
#3891 [19:07] <Starlight> I didn't like mods.. Thought stuff like they have key-loggers and stuff.. But now I can't play without..
#3892 [19:07] <zzzz> haha
#3893 [19:08] <zzzz> yea, i tend to play vanilla because im running osx 10.5.x and mac does their own java updates, and it hates people
#3894 [19:08] <zzzz> since they dont even support this os anymore
#3895 [19:09] <zzzz> i really need to just go get mountain lion and be done with it
#3896 [19:09] <Starlight> And in a more understandable language, you where trying to say what Smanly?
#3897 [19:09] <zzzz> but i dont think that can even run on this computer
#3898 [19:09] <Smanly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJH97AoUnio
#3899 [19:10] <Smanly> Its like a clock, only not.
#3900 [19:10] <zzzz> lol
#3901 [19:11] <Starlight> Nice..
#3902 [19:13] * Drool [Drool@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3903 [19:13] <zzzz> did that work?
#3904 [19:15] <Starlight> Well, I haven't made it yet..
#3905 [19:15] <Starlight> But in the video it's working..
#3906 [19:15] <Smanly> But, did it work?
#3907 [19:15] <zzzz> oh boy. friend is watching his little brother for a week, parents on vacation. apparently he got this idea from interwebs and its working great: "Want today's wifi password?:
#3908 [19:16] <Starlight> I'm building a door: width 2, height 3, and when the door is closed it looks like a flat wall..
#3909 [19:16] <Starlight> I'm building a door: width 2, height 3, and when the door is closed it looks like a flat wall..
#3910 [19:16] * FLHerne [FLHerne@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3911 [19:16] <Smanly> Nice, zzzz.
#3912 [19:16] <zzzz> 1:make bed 2: walk the dog 3+: <other chores>
#3913 [19:16] <zzzz> star, why not just build it like a 2x2 flush door thats one taller lol
#3914 [19:16] <zzzz> and whats the lever and button for?
#3915 [19:17] <Starlight> Butoon?
#3916 [19:17] <Starlight> Button*
#3917 [19:17] <zzzz> you said there was a lever and a button
#3918 [19:17] <Starlight> I use levers to test.. but it will use preassure plates..
#3919 [19:17] <zzzz> open from both sides or one?
#3920 [19:17] <Starlight> Both sides..
#3921 [19:18] <zzzz> how's it close
#3922 [19:18] <zzzz> timer?
#3923 [19:18] <zzzz> thats what the delay's for?
#3924 [19:18] <Smanly> You should just use buttons and a toggle.
#3925 [19:18] <zzzz> pressure plates can work the same way
#3926 [19:18] <Starlight> This is my old door..
#3927 [19:18] <Starlight> http://youtu.be/kWWAeQbq3_M
#3928 [19:19] <Starlight> I'm making a better one now..
#3929 [19:19] <zzzz> ....oh
#3930 [19:19] <Smanly> Woah, double thick
#3931 [19:19] <zzzz> so its kinda got one on both sides
#3932 [19:19] <zzzz> also, kittys :3
#3933 [19:20] <Smanly> MEOW
#3934 [19:20] <Starlight> lol
#3935 [19:20] * gamenerd113 [gamenerd113@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3936 [19:20] <zzzz> im just gonna play around on a creative world for a bit, if you havent got it figured out by the time iv made one ill give you screenies
#3937 [19:21] <Starlight> I found out the reversed timer.. Smanly sent a YT video..
#3938 [19:21] <Starlight> delay*
#3939 [19:21] * John_Clark [John_Clark@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3940 [19:23] <zzzz> how do you power the middle 2 of the pistons pushing the blocks?
#3941 [19:25] <zzzz> i cant see any way of powering them without putting redstone in the hallway
#3942 [19:25] <John_Clark> Just bought the game but when i go to login it fails and says not downloaded
#3943 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means you're putting in your username/password in incorrectly
#3944 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Are you using a minecraft account, or a mojang account?
#3945 [19:26] <John_Clark> umm
#3946 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> If you're using the latter, you'll need to use your email address as your username
#3947 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> If neither work, you'll need to try to reset your password
#3948 [19:27] <John_Clark> the one i signed up with on minecraft.net
#3949 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Then try a http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#3950 [19:29] <John_Clark> woo changeing the pw worked
#3951 [19:29] <John_Clark> thank you
#3952 [19:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#3952 [19:30] <John_Clark> now to try things i see on youtube but cant do on the 360 lol
#3953 [19:30] <zzzz> starlight, how dyou power the middle row? also john_clark lol
#3954 [19:30] <zzzz> but there's not duping in survival, so you actually have to *work*
#3955 [19:30] * zzzz runs away in terror
#3955 [19:31] <John_Clark> never used the glitch lol
#3956 [19:31] <zzzz> meh, on xbox its kinda necessary because limited worldsize=limited resources that were never designed to be limited in minecraft
#3957 [19:33] * Bouncyj [Bouncyj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3958 [19:34] <Bouncyj> How do i get a cape?
#3959 [19:34] <Bouncyj> Like so everyone can see
#3960 [19:34] <lutzee> Bouncyj, they are very limited, if you are on a cracked server they might have modded it
#3961 [19:34] <Bouncyj> Well.
#3962 [19:34] <Starlight> zzzz: I have redstone torch under the floor and wire on the blocks above..
#3963 [19:34] <Bouncyj> I heard you had to go to miencraft or someting?
#3964 [19:35] <Morrolan> "Official" capes are given out to Mojang employees, Minecon visitors, some modders, some other people.
#3965 [19:35] <Bouncyj> Whats minecon?
#3966 [19:35] <Morrolan> Minecraft Conference.
#3967 [19:35] <Morrolan> Like, uh, E3, just Minecraft-only.
#3968 [19:35] <Bouncyj> How do i get that?
#3969 [19:36] * jollywombat [jollywombat@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3970 [19:36] <lutzee> Minecon is being hosted in Paris on 24th-25th november of this yea
#3971 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> sorry, capes are only given out at special times
#3972 [19:36] <lutzee> year*
#3973 [19:36] * helpihavebeenSHOT [helpihavebeenSHOT@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3974 [19:36] <helpihavebeenSHOT> hey
#3975 [19:37] <Bouncyj> Where?
#3976 [19:37] <Bouncyj> Paris
#3977 [19:37] <Morrolan> That's in Europe.
#3978 [19:37] <Bouncyj> Will they ever be in Florida? :)
#3979 [19:37] <Morrolan> If there still are Minecons in ten years then maybe one of them will have been in Florida. ;)
#3980 [19:37] <jollywombat> I thought notch had said that doing it in America was probably a one time thing..
#3981 [19:38] <jollywombat> But I guess that's not written in stone
#3982 [19:38] <Bouncyj> Oh. )=
#3983 [19:38] <helpihavebeenSHOT> i have a question for you peeps, i have a mine craft account, haven't played in a while. It said i need to migrate my account so i did that but i dont remember the password and every time i send in the que for an e-mail for help i dont get one. what do i do
#3984 [19:38] <tyteen4a03> jollywombat: the USA is a pretty big market, it would upset many people if one of them in the future isn't in USA
#3985 [19:39] <tyteen4a03> helpihavebeenSHOT: have you tried the Forget Password function?
#3986 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> Type in your username at http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#3987 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> Correction - type in your email at that page.
#3988 [19:40] <helpihavebeenSHOT> yes i know the username the forgot password thing wont work so i came here
#3989 [19:40] <zzzz> starlight, im doing that as well but its not powering the middle row...?
#3990 [19:40] * Bouncyj [Bouncyj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3991 [19:41] <Starlight> Is it powered at all?
#3992 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> helpihavebeenSHOT: Please do that by entering your email on that page, to ensure that Mojang still knows of you by your email address
#3993 [19:41] <zzzz> nah, its not getting affected
#3994 [19:41] <zzzz> i found a way to power it but it requires 2 redstone torches in the hallway
#3995 [19:41] <Starlight> I have a torch right under the block that is in contact with the middle pistons when the door is closed..
#3996 [19:41] <helpihavebeenSHOT> is there like a support team i can talk to or something, im just not reciving the email for the pw reset
#3997 [19:41] <Starlight> It should extend the lower pistons..
#3998 [19:42] * Dyllan [Dyllan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3999 [19:42] <Dyllan> Why is minecraft not on ps3
#4000 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> Dyllan: Because Microsoft paid lots of money for exclusivity.
#4001 [19:42] <Elystus> ^
#4002 [19:43] <lutzee> helpihavebeenSHOT, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#4003 [19:43] <helpihavebeenSHOT> ty
#4004 [19:43] <Morrolan> Don't bother with that, unless you're fine with waiting two months.
#4005 [19:43] <Bouncyj> Does anyone here have the minecon cape?
#4006 [19:44] <Morrolan> Don't think any of the ops does, but maybe one of these 168 people has been there. :)
#4007 [19:44] <Dyllan> So minecraft will come out on ps3
#4008 [19:44] <lutzee> No
#4009 [19:44] <Morrolan> Don't think it will.
#4010 [19:45] <lutzee> Not unless microsoft like dies
#4011 [19:45] <Morrolan> Not within the next x years, anyway.
#4012 [19:45] <Dyllan> Why not
#4013 [19:45] * lutzee personally doesn't like microsofts exclusivity schemes
#4013 [19:45] <Morrolan> It's PC and xbox-exclusive.
#4014 [19:45] <lutzee> Dyllan, because microsoft pays a lot of money to mojang so they don't
#4015 [19:46] <Bouncyj> Does anyone here have the minecon cape??
#4016 [19:46] <Morrolan> There's a list of everyone who does somewhere I believe, so get that one, and compare it to the people in here.
#4017 [19:46] <Elystus> lutzee: Microsofts meetings "We have a problem?" "I have a solution, lets throw money at it!" "YEAH!"
#4018 [19:46] <Morrolan> Most use a similar nickname to the one they use ingame.
#4019 [19:47] <lutzee> Elystus, exactly
#4020 [19:47] <Dyllan> There should be a way to get minecraft i would pay 90$ to get minecraft on ps3
#4021 [19:47] <lutzee> Unfortunately i will never buy any microsoft console
#4022 [19:47] <Elystus> ^
#4023 [19:47] <zzzz> dyllan theres a reason people called them micro$oft
#4024 [19:47] <Morrolan> Cut the Microsoft hate please.
#4025 [19:47] <Morrolan> On other channels I tend to just detach, here I've got some other possibilities. ;)
#4026 [19:48] <Bouncyj> Lutzee read the pm?
#4027 [19:48] <zzzz> it's not *hate*
#4028 [19:48] <zzzz> we're just being honest :)
#4029 [19:48] <lutzee> I don't answer PM's unless i know you.
#4030 [19:48] <Bouncyj> Oh.
#4031 [19:48] <Bouncyj> Do you know me? =)
#4032 [19:49] <lutzee> You are on webchat, so no.
#4033 [19:49] <zzzz> brb
#4034 [19:50] <Bouncyj> Is anyone heer a part of MC? or has a cape. (=
#4035 [19:50] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4036 [19:51] <Morrolan> If you didn't get an answer by now then probably none who reads chat currently has got a cape.
#4037 [19:51] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4038 [19:51] <Bouncyj> Oh
#4039 [19:51] * Dyllan [Dyllan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4040 [19:52] <Bouncyj> I wish i had the cape
#4041 [19:52] <Dyllan> Where is minecraft on ps3
#4042 [19:52] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4043 [19:52] <Morrolan> There IS no Minecraft on PS3.
#4044 [19:52] <Dyllan> Why not
#4045 [19:52] <Morrolan> You have been told twice already.
#4046 [19:53] <Morrolan> Read the chatlog.
#4047 [19:53] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4048 [19:53] <Dyllan> Are you from mojang
#4049 [19:53] <Morrolan> I am not.
#4050 [19:53] <Dyllan> Do you have ps3
#4051 [19:53] <Morrolan> I do not.
#4052 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> Dyllan: There is no Minecraft for the PS3, because Mojang have been paid lots of money by Microsoft to only do it for the xbox.
#4053 [19:54] <zzzz> is that number publicly released, btw?
#4054 [19:54] <zzzz> im guessing no, but mildly curious
#4055 [19:54] <Dyllan> Any one have ps3
#4056 [19:55] <Morrolan> I don't even know whether they got paid anything, or whether it was like "Either release on xbox only, or don't release on xbox at all" *shrug*
#4057 [19:55] * AmberK [AmberK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4058 [19:55] * sammyjg [sammyjg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4059 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Dyllan: I find that consoles tend to be quite limited in what I can use them for.
#4060 [19:55] <zzzz> well, according to sales reports about 64 million people do dyllan
#4061 [19:56] * lutzee owns a ps3
#4061 [19:56] * AmberK owns a computer. wat now
#4061 [19:56] <zzzz> morrolan i assume the latter, we're talking about microsoft...
#4062 [19:56] * zzzz owns himself
#4062 [19:56] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4063 [19:56] * zzzz wins
#4063 [19:56] <AmberK> ;.;
#4064 [19:56] <Morrolan> Can't blame them for wanting exclusivity. *shrug*
#4065 [19:56] <Morrolan> I'd probably do the same as a big company.
#4066 [19:56] <zzzz> doesnt mean we can't hate them for it
#4067 [19:56] <zzzz> :)
#4068 [19:57] <zzzz> also, the only advantage of having a house full of annoying 12 year old girls is i can steal all their chips and pizza and they cant stop me
#4069 [19:57] * Dyllan [Dyllan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4070 [19:58] <Dyllan> Well i hope they put it on ps3
#4071 [19:58] <zzzz> start a petition
#4072 [19:58] <Dyllan> Well where
#4073 [19:58] * sammyjg [sammyjg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4074 [19:58] <zzzz> idk
#4075 [19:58] <zzzz> or find a way to run it on a linux'd ps3
#4076 [19:59] <Dyllan> Well will you help me
#4077 [19:59] <zzzz> no, i don't own a ps3
#4078 [19:59] * Sigma [Sigma@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4079 [19:59] <sammyjg> minecraft wont let me make a book on any maps/worlds
#4080 [19:59] <zzzz> a book or a book+quill
#4081 [19:59] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4082 [19:59] <sammyjg> book
#4083 [19:59] <Morrolan> You need leather now, with 1.3
#4084 [19:59] <zzzz> 3 paper vertical?
#4085 [19:59] <lutzee> sammyjg, the recipe has changed
#4086 [19:59] <zzzz> wait
#4087 [19:59] <zzzz> rly?
#4088 [19:59] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#4089 [20:00] <zzzz> sux
#4090 [20:00] <lutzee> you need 3 paper and 1 leather
#4091 [20:00] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#4092 [20:00] <lutzee> in any formation
#4093 [20:00] <zzzz> wat
#4094 [20:00] <sammyjg> ok thank you guy for the help
#4095 [20:00] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#4096 [20:00] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4097 [20:00] <zzzz> well that sucks
#4098 [20:00] <zzzz> lol
#4099 [20:00] <zzzz> now i have to actually bother myself with cows
#4100 [20:00] <Dyllan> Who would like to have minecraft on ps3
#4101 [20:01] * zzzz votes nay
#4101 [20:01] <Morrolan> You won't find many supporters here.
#4102 [20:01] <Elystus> not me
#4103 [20:01] <Morrolan> I'm fairly certain that most people in here use their computer to play games, mostly.
#4104 [20:01] <zzzz> also cant make a library by standing between an automated sugarcane farm and an automated tree farm :(
#4105 [20:01] <zzzz> this just ruins alllll my plans
#4106 [20:02] <Morrolan> I'll help you with the automated cowfarm once you got an automated treefarm. ;)
#4107 [20:02] <Starlight> I'm off.. Take care! :-D
#4108 [20:02] <zzzz> you can *sort-of* automate tree farms vanilla
#4109 [20:03] <zzzz> you can make it push all the wood blocks into cubes
#4110 [20:03] <zzzz> or rectangular prisms
#4111 [20:03] * lut [lut@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4112 [20:03] <zzzz> and then you just go at the whole thing at once
#4113 [20:03] <zzzz> oh hey, that pizza i was talking about's here brb
#4114 [20:03] * lutzee1 [lutzee1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4115 [20:03] <Dyllan> I'm gonna go on ps3 and start a petition and say of you would like to have minecraft on ps3 send this to all of your friends and send the message back to appleslice3
#4116 [20:04] <helpihavebeenSHOT> how can i talk to mojang rep within the next 5 mis?
#4117 [20:04] <Morrolan> You can't.
#4118 [20:04] <Morrolan> a) They're asleep
#4119 [20:04] <Elystus> Not possible.
#4120 [20:04] <Morrolan> b) Even if they were not, you couldn't
#4121 [20:04] <Elystus> Morrolan: most of the customer support lives in America.
#4122 [20:04] <Morrolan> Heh, okay.
#4123 [20:04] <Morrolan> a) They're awake
#4124 [20:04] <Morrolan> b) You still can't
#4125 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> There was an automated bread farm, where you have one dispenser full of seeds, and another dispenser full of bone meal, and a bud switch is used to trigger which one ejects what item, so you can rapidly automate the planting and harvesting of wheat.
#4126 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> Something similar could be done with trees
#4127 [20:05] <helpihavebeenSHOT> ok well i cant migrate my account, any ideas
#4128 [20:05] <Morrolan> What happens if you try?
#4129 [20:05] <Elystus> helpihavebeenSHOT: What does it say when you try to?
#4130 [20:05] <helpihavebeenSHOT> when i try migrating idk my pw so i need to send in a find pw request and it never comes to my email
#4131 [20:05] <Morrolan> Elystus - Huh, according to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/331367-employees there's four customer support guys.
#4132 [20:06] <Elystus> yep
#4133 [20:06] <Elystus> Morrolan: I think there are also 2 part times
#4134 [20:06] <Morrolan> That sounds more likely already. ^^
#4135 [20:06] <Morrolan> helpihavebeenSHOT - Are you sure you're checking the correct e-mail address?
#4136 [20:06] <Elystus> 4 full and two part times. The part times will leave after they get rid of the backlog.
#4137 [20:07] <Morrolan> I.e. do you still have the payment confirmation on that mail account, or something else which confirms that you're checking the correct one?
#4138 [20:07] <Morrolan> Elystus - Oh, those two part timers are in addition to the existing four, then ignore what I said.
#4139 [20:07] <helpihavebeenSHOT> yea i still have the transaction id
#4140 [20:07] <Morrolan> IMO they should just wipe the backlog. :S
#4141 [20:07] <Morrolan> Yes, it'd be annoying for those who contacted them already, but all of them probably lost patience already.
#4142 [20:08] <helpihavebeenSHOT> i sent them a e-mail but me and my friend are trying to get drunk and have a lan party, we are cool guys
#4143 [20:08] <Elystus> Morrolan: SO many people would get pissed lol.
#4144 [20:08] <Morrolan> Yes, but would there really be more pissed off guys than there are new ones now, because they don't get an answer until two months after they sent a mail?
#4145 [20:08] <Morrolan> It's a matter of a few thousand pissed offs now, or a few hundred new pissed off ones each day.
#4146 [20:09] <Elystus> Morrolan: Its a lose lose really. It looks better for them to just power through the backlog.
#4147 [20:09] <Morrolan> helpihavebeenSHOT - Right now they are working on e-mails from two months ago, so your best bet is to try and remember your password I'm afraid. (Also, check spamfolder, contact mailprovider etc)
#4148 [20:09] <helpihavebeenSHOT> so any ideas on how to solve my problem or am i going to have to go outside today
#4149 [20:10] <Morrolan> Outside? If you don't manage to get the password reset mail, and don't manage to recall your password, you'll have to go outside for the next two months. ;)
#4150 [20:10] <helpihavebeenSHOT> that sucks
#4151 [20:10] <Elystus> What is this outside of which you speak?
#4152 [20:10] <Morrolan> Elystus - Frankly, I don't care much what makes them look better, they should care about good support, not about a good reputation
#4153 [20:11] <Morrolan> Heck, they could add anouncements everywhere, telling people that, if they submitted a request within the last month, to resubmit that one.
#4154 [20:11] * lutzee returns to his other games
#4154 [20:11] <Elystus> Morrolan: But if everyone resubmits one, then they will have the backlog again.
#4155 [20:11] <Morrolan> Those who actually still care will see that one, the others won't, would cut the backlog in half.
#4156 [20:11] <Elystus> >_>
#4157 [20:11] <Morrolan> Not everyone will resubmit. ;)
#4158 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> It's the big blue box with real 3D that some people are role playing an event callewd "real life" in.
#4159 [20:11] <Morrolan> Don't get me wrong though, Elystus, I see your point.
#4160 [20:11] <Elystus> Morrolan: I see your point, you could propose it to Marc if he comes on next week.
#4161 [20:11] <Morrolan> I just don't think that what they are doing is the best way to handle such a giant backlog. :S
#4162 [20:12] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Oh...
#4163 [20:12] * Elystus opens blinds.
#4163 [20:12] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#4164 [20:12] * Elystus has burnt his eyes out.
#4164 [20:12] <Elystus> crud...
#4165 [20:12] <Morrolan> Ow, so bright. D:
#4166 [20:12] <Morrolan> Speaking of their backlog, recently I've set up a cronjob to save a copy of their "When will you hear back from us" webpage every day.
#4167 [20:13] <Morrolan> Now assuming they update that one more or less frequently, we'll be able to get some nice graph to see how fast they are with catching up.
#4168 [20:13] <Elystus> He updates it every week or two.
#4169 [20:13] <Morrolan> Hmm, less frequent than I hoped, but should work nevertheless.
#4170 [20:14] * jake [jake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4171 [20:15] * jake123 [jake123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4172 [20:16] * jake123 [jake123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4173 [20:16] * sammyjg [sammyjg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4174 [20:16] <sammyjg> how do you make a book
#4175 [20:16] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4176 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> with 3 pages
#4177 [20:17] <sammyjg> it wont work on the new update
#4178 [20:17] <Morrolan> Three pieces of paper, one piece of leather.
#4179 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#4180 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> and some leather
#4181 [20:18] * zucchini [zucchini@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4182 [20:18] * tijifuji [tijifuji@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4183 [20:18] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4184 [20:18] <zucchini> Help plase
#4185 [20:19] <Morrolan> Details please.
#4186 [20:19] <Morrolan> And no, not about what you are doing, but about what your issue is.
#4187 [20:19] <zucchini> when ever i log in it just says logging in for along time and doesnt open the game
#4188 [20:19] <Morrolan> Did it ever work before?
#4189 [20:19] <zucchini> yes
#4190 [20:19] <Morrolan> Do you get any error message whatsoever?
#4191 [20:19] <zucchini> no
#4192 [20:20] <Morrolan> So after you hit "Login" nothing happens at all?
#4193 [20:20] <zucchini> it just said logging in for along time and didnt open it
#4194 [20:20] <zucchini> correct
#4195 [20:20] <tijifuji> i have purchased a minecraft premium account and waited more than an hour but my account says im still not premium and i still cant play any help?
#4196 [20:20] <Morrolan> And you never get any text like "Can't connect to minecraft.net" or similar? Odd.
#4197 [20:20] <zucchini> nope.
#4198 [20:20] <Morrolan> tijifuji - First, please get an easier-to-read nickname, using "/nick <new nickname goes here>".
#4199 [20:21] <Morrolan> tijifuji - Second, how did you purchase it?
#4200 [20:21] <Morrolan> zucchini - Are you on Windows, Mac or Linux?
#4201 [20:21] <zucchini> windows
#4202 [20:21] <tijifuji> through my master crd
#4203 [20:22] <tijifuji> *card
#4204 [20:22] <Morrolan> zucchini - Download the .jar launcher from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?246453141090810 and this .bat file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_minecraft.bat
#4205 [20:22] <Morrolan> zucchini - Save them both in the same folder, then doubleclick the .bat file.
#4206 [20:22] <zucchini> k thanks
#4207 [20:23] <Morrolan> Once you did that, log in. Then you'll get an error message in the console. Copy the console's output and put it on www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#4208 [20:23] <Morrolan> tijifuji - Use a new nickname please, I'm rather tired and have a hard time finding the right keys. ;)
#4209 [20:24] <zzzz> does op on this chat get to force nicks?
#4210 [20:24] <zzzz> also, back
#4211 [20:24] <Morrolan> No.
#4212 [20:24] <zzzz> awwww
#4213 [20:25] <zucchini> HAHA YOUR GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4214 [20:25] <Morrolan> Nicks are completely up to the user. (Thanks god)
#4215 [20:25] * Morrolan kicked zucchini from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ucchini :Behave)
#4216 [20:25] <zzzz> haha
#4217 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> zucchini: Please don't do that again.
#4218 [20:25] <zzzz> voxel would probably have renamed me something like pottymouth by now
#4219 [20:25] <tijifuji> <Jacob> soory is that any better
#4220 [20:25] <zzzz> wat
#4221 [20:25] * Bri [Bri@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4222 [20:25] <Morrolan> Huh, use "/nick jacob" to change your nick to "jacob"
#4223 [20:25] <zzzz> jacob, type "/nick Jacob"
#4224 [20:26] <zzzz> :p
#4225 [20:26] <Morrolan> Very well.
#4226 [20:26] <zzzz> sweet
#4227 [20:26] <Jacob> thanks
#4228 [20:26] <Morrolan> Jacob - Chances are your credit card provider blocked the payment, since it's an international one. I'd suggest to call them, and ask whether this is the case.
#4229 [20:27] <Jacob> after the purchase i got a verification # also
#4230 [20:27] <Morrolan> If I recall correctly there's two types of verification numbers. There's a Moneybookers one, which you get sent even when the payment didn't succeed, and then there's a Mojang one which you only get when the transaction succeeded.
#4231 [20:28] <zzzz> muahaha mac banning all my sisters friends itouch's from the wifi
#4232 [20:28] <Morrolan> So don't rely on that one, call your credit card provider, if possible.
#4233 [20:28] <zzzz> each one keeps pulling theirs out, starting to load something, i mac ban it, they go wtf, next one pulls out her itouch, wash rinse repeat. this is way to much fun
#4234 [20:28] <Morrolan> Meanie. ;)
#4235 [20:28] <Jacob> ok thanks
#4236 [20:28] <zzzz> i couldn't find any way to access them over the LAN, so this is all i can do :(
#4237 [20:29] <zzzz> i wanted to leave creepy messages as popups on their screens but no dice
#4238 [20:29] <Morrolan> Well, good night.
#4239 [20:30] <zzzz> gnight
#4240 [20:30] <zzzz> sleep tight
#4241 [20:30] <zzzz> dont let the bedbugs bite, i heard they're becoming quite the problem
#4242 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> Speaking of which, there actually is a http://bedbugregistry.com/
#4243 [20:36] <zzzz> duuuude
#4244 [20:36] <zzzz> i travel alot, that will actually be really useful
#4245 [20:37] <zzzz> haha the only 2 local ones on there for my town are the 2 "fancy" hotels
#4246 [20:59] * skyhero123 [skyhero123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4247 [21:00] * Bri [Bri@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4248 [21:00] <Bri> Somehow, I got downgraded to Minecraft 1.1. Is there any way I can undo that? Anyone? Please help.
#4249 [21:00] * SheaStyle [SheaStyle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4250 [21:01] <lutzee> downgraded? yes easy
#4251 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Force an update.
#4252 [21:01] <lutzee> ??> Bri forceupdate
#4253 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Bri: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4254 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Bri: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#4255 [21:02] <Bri> Okay. I'll try it. Thanks alot!
#4256 [21:02] <SheaStyle> tried to start minecrafy, say I have bad video drivers. But I show everything workin. Any ideas? Any help is appreciated
#4257 [21:03] * Luigy [Luigy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4258 [21:03] <Bri> Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I was getting really flustered and afraid I lost everything. >.<
#4259 [21:03] * Oddmouth [Oddmouth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4260 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> SheaStyle win/dxdiag
#4261 [21:03] <VoxelHead> SheaStyle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4262 [21:03] <VoxelHead> SheaStyle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#4263 [21:04] <Oddmouth> I can't receive the e-mail regarding changing the e-mail address linked to my mojang account. It's not in my junk folder, and I've been trying for the past two weeks. Halp?
#4264 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Please enter in your email to this page: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#4265 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> Do you receive an email from that?
#4266 [21:06] <Oddmouth> E-mail not on record. But my migrated account says that the e-mail I just used is my account's e-mail.
#4267 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Then you may need to tell Mojang to change your email address. You can do that from http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#4268 [21:07] * InfinicraftPVP [InfinicraftPVP@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4269 [21:07] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4270 [21:07] <InfinicraftPVP> I need Help
#4271 [21:07] <Oddmouth> Yeah, I've sent two support tickets over the past week or two but no replies.
#4272 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Hold on there
#4273 [21:07] <InfinicraftPVP> Does anyone know why i cant use mods
#4274 [21:08] <InfinicraftPVP> Minecraft 1.3 Mac OSX 10.5.8
#4275 [21:08] <InfinicraftPVP> I removed meta-inf
#4276 [21:08] <Oddmouth> InfinicraftPVP: Elaborate?
#4277 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: What about the part on that page that starts with: "If you have already migrated"
#4278 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> InfinicraftPVP: Sorry, we don't support mods in here
#4279 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> InfinicraftPVP mods
#4280 [21:08] <VoxelHead> InfinicraftPVP: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#4281 [21:08] <VoxelHead> InfinicraftPVP: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#4282 [21:09] <InfinicraftPVP> Sorry
#4283 [21:09] <InfinicraftPVP> Bye
#4284 [21:09] <InfinicraftPVP> Bye
#4285 [21:09] * InfinicraftPVP [InfinicraftPVP@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4286 [21:09] <SheaStyle> http://pastebin.com/wXBq6pzp
#4287 [21:09] <Oddmouth> DiskDaemon: It tells me that the e-mail has been sent when I request the e-mail but I never receive it.
#4288 [21:09] * InfinicraftPVP [InfinicraftPVP@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4289 [21:09] <InfinicraftPVP> I cant talk in the minecraft channel
#4290 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Did you read that part of the page that starts with: "If you have already migrated..."
#4291 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> InfinicraftPVP irc
#4292 [21:10] <VoxelHead> InfinicraftPVP: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4293 [21:10] <VoxelHead> InfinicraftPVP: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4294 [21:10] <Oddmouth> Yes, and I went to the settings page, requested the e-mail (which would make it the 7th time or so), and I never receive it.
#4295 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> SheaStyle gpu/amd
#4296 [21:10] <VoxelHead> SheaStyle: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#4297 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: When I go to the settings page, I can see the email address that they have for me there. Do you not see your email address there?
#4298 [21:12] <SheaStyle> just formatted, installed windows 7 64 bit, and downloaded all the latest drivers. I'll try this one, though. Thanks
#4299 [21:12] <Oddmouth> I see my e-mail address there. The old one. Then I request to change it. It says that it sent the e-mail to my old address. I receive no e-mail.
#4300 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: What domain is your old email address on?
#4301 [21:13] <Oddmouth> DiskDaemon: Gmail, but I have more info.
#4302 [21:13] <Oddmouth> DiskDaemon: See,
#4303 [21:13] <Oddmouth> DiskDaemon: I changed it fine about two days before I wanted to change it again.
#4304 [21:14] <zzzz> infinicraftpvp you still here?
#4305 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Then you may need to follow the advice from the article section titled "If you cannot access yout old email address" http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#4306 [21:14] <Oddmouth> DiskDaemon: I've tried to contact them twice but I've gotten no replies.
#4307 [21:15] <Wug> Oddmouth: they have a backlog, im not sure how long it is.
#4308 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: Would you like to know when a reply is likely to occur?
#4309 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Oddmouth: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#4310 [21:15] <Oddmouth> Jesus.
#4311 [21:15] <Oddmouth> Christ.
#4312 [21:15] <Oddmouth> Alright, thanks, I suppose.
#4313 [21:15] <Wug> only 2 months behind
#4314 [21:16] <Wug> theyre catching up
#4315 [21:16] <Wug> I think
#4316 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> 2.5 months now, nearly 3
#4317 [21:17] <zzzz> InfinicraftPVP...?
#4318 [21:17] <zzzz> InfinicraftPVP...?
#4319 [21:17] * Oddmouth [Oddmouth@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4320 [21:17] <zzzz> also, thats what happens when your company is <10 people and you have millions of customers
#4321 [21:17] <zzzz> lol
#4322 [21:17] <Elystus> they have a team of 6 customer support agents.
#4323 [21:17] * NeedsSomeHelp [NeedsSomeHelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4324 [21:19] <NeedsSomeHelp> So I heard about minecraft a while ago and watched some videos. It looked really fun so I decided to create an account. I didn't want to buy quite yet so I decided demo would be fun
#4325 [21:22] <SheaStyle> Sweet!looks like I'm up and running. Thanks for the help Vox and DiskD
#4326 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#4327 [21:27] * Bri [Bri@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4328 [21:27] * superkabii [superkabii@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4329 [21:27] <Bri> Okay, now that I got my update back, my worlds aren't allowing cheats. >:(
#4330 [21:28] * pooape [pooape@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4331 [21:28] <Bri> Help anyone? Please?
#4332 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? ask
#4333 [21:28] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4334 [21:28] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4335 [21:29] <Bri> I did ask my question. >.>
#4336 [21:29] * Lukario45 [Lukario45@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4337 [21:29] <Bri> Well, stated it I guess.
#4338 [21:29] <Lukario45> How do you eat cake?
#4339 [21:29] <Bri> My worlds aren't allowing cheats. How do I fix that?
#4340 [21:29] <Bri> For single player.
#4341 [21:29] <Lukario45> Bri
#4342 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> Not allowed to cheat, right. The level.dat file can be edited, but it's not easy. I'm not sure if there are other tools that let you do that
#4343 [21:30] <Lukario45> Mine does that to
#4344 [21:30] <Lukario45> tgp to the pause menu
#4345 [21:30] <Lukario45> press the lan thing
#4346 [21:30] <Lukario45> press allow cheats
#4347 [21:30] <Lukario45> then press set up for lan
#4348 [21:31] <Lukario45> then you will be able to cheat
#4349 [21:31] <Lukario45> Disk
#4350 [21:31] <Lukario45> DiskDaemon
#4351 [21:31] <Bri> DERP. Thank you so much. Lol. Usually I'm computer literate.
#4352 [21:31] <Bri> Not today I guess.
#4353 [21:32] <Lukario45> Did it work Bri?
#4354 [21:32] <Bri> Thanks again!
#4355 [21:32] <Bri> Yeah! :D
#4356 [21:32] <Lukario45> Your welcome
#4357 [21:32] <Lukario45> How do i eat cake?
#4358 [21:33] <zzzz> right click
#4359 [21:33] <zzzz> you have t obe missing health lol
#4360 [21:33] <Lukario45> Oh
#4361 [21:33] <Lukario45> ty
#4362 [21:35] * reamolope [reamolope@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4363 [21:37] * Ineedhelp [Ineedhelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4364 [21:39] <woodtech> lol, what if he asked about real cake
#4365 [21:40] * Ely [Ely@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4366 [21:41] <Ineedhelp> So I downloaded the minecraft client today all woring fine opened fine created an account and it logged me in. I dont have a premium membership and wanted to try the demo. The option came up i clicked on it and began loading, but then it just stopped. It said "done loading" and at the top said "Udating Minecraft". I said what ever thinking it was just updating and walked away. i came an hour later no change, i waited 3 more
#4367 [21:41] <lutzee> Ineedhelp, the demo mode seems to be very buggy atm
#4368 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> Ineedhelp: Currently, the demo mode requires someone with a premium account on your computer to have already downloaded the game,
#4369 [21:42] <Ineedhelp> i uninstalled the client and reinstalled same thing. Any ideas?
#4370 [21:43] * LunarDoom [LunarDoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4371 [21:43] <Ineedhelp> Oh, ok then im just not sure if i want to pay 27 dollars so... I guess i'll just buy premium then/
#4372 [21:44] <Ineedhelp> ?*
#4373 [21:44] <woodtech> Ineedhelp: or wait for the next update ;-)
#4374 [21:45] <woodtech> but mc has loads of mods, and if you know a few, you're time is occupied easily
#4375 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> I'll try to get Marc to make things clearer on the help page about the demo too
#4376 [21:45] <Ineedhelp> Well thanks for the help. Saved me a lot of time screaming at my computer to hurry the fudge up and load haha
#4377 [21:45] <Ineedhelp> Well thanks for the help. Saved me a lot of time screaming at my computer to hurry the fudge up and load haha
#4378 [21:45] * wzich [wzich@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4379 [21:48] * lulu_ [lulu_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4380 [21:52] * Luigy [Luigy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4381 [21:52] * Luigy [Luigy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4382 [21:53] * LunarDoom [LunarDoom@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4383 [22:04] <zzzz> should add a note about that to the join popups
#4384 [22:04] <zzzz> The Demo doesn't work
#4385 [22:04] <zzzz> would solve so many problems
#4386 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> The demo is only available on computers where someone who has already paid for Minecraft, has downloaded the game.
#4387 [22:08] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4388 [22:09] <zzzz> well, yes
#4389 [22:09] <zzzz> so it's functionally borked
#4390 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> yes, currently
#4391 [22:11] * Denizen [Denizen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4392 [22:12] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Are you talking about the demo being broken?
#4393 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> Currently the demo seems to be designed so that Premium players can give others demo access to the game.
#4394 [22:13] <Elystus> what happens if there is no premium player?
#4395 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> How is it broken? It's just our understanding of it which doesn't match up with its current usage :)
#4396 [22:13] <zzzz> whats the point of a "demo" on a computer with a premium user?
#4397 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> Then the game cannot be downloaded. Downloading the game is only allowed for premium accounts.
#4398 [22:13] * Minecart [Minecart@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4399 [22:14] <zzzz> why not just let them play a new world for a bit then kick them off and del the world
#4400 [22:14] <zzzz> on said premium account
#4401 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> zzzz: That's the problem. It's not a "demo" in the way we normally understand things.
#4402 [22:14] <zzzz> but was that intentional?
#4403 [22:14] <zzzz> thats the question
#4404 [22:14] <Minecart> I need help with a server, that won't load me.
#4405 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, do demo players have access to your existing worlds too?
#4406 [22:15] <zzzz> no clue, havn messed with it
#4407 [22:16] <Minecart> Hello...I just joined...I came to ask about a server problem that is happening to me.
#4408 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> Nope, demo users only have a button called "Play Demo World" which is good.
#4409 [22:17] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4410 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> ?? Minecart dont/pm
#4411 [22:18] <zzzz> forgot >
#4412 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> Some day I'll get the faq entry for that right
#4413 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> ??> Minecart dont/pm
#4414 [22:18] <VoxelHead> Minecart: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#4415 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#4416 [22:18] <zzzz> lol
#4417 [22:18] * Generalcamo [Generalcamo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4418 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Minecart: Stop it with the bloody PM's!
#4419 [22:19] <zzzz> lol
#4420 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> I only like people whispering in my ear when they're here with me in real life.
#4421 [22:20] <zzzz> haha
#4422 [22:20] <zzzz> lolol
#4423 [22:22] * {{Classic}} [{{Classic}}@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4424 [22:22] <{{Classic}}> hola o/
#4425 [22:22] <{{Classic}}> hey guys... what are some weird issues which may cause "Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" ??
#4426 [22:23] <xales> {{Classic}}: If it's just occasionally happening, then you need not worry about it.
#4427 [22:23] <{{Classic}}> because I keep gettin' the console spammed with these, up until the server becomes unresponsive
#4428 [22:23] <xales> If it happens constantly, then your computer isn't powerful enough to run a server (possibly in addition to whatever else it's doing)
#4429 [22:23] <{{Classic}}> it's running 2 servers, and the other server is perfectly fine
#4430 [22:23] <{{Classic}}> it only happens on one of them... which I find odd
#4431 [22:23] <{{Classic}}> the RAM isn't maxed nor is the CPU usage
#4432 [22:24] <{{Classic}}> plus, it is on a Vanilla server, with no plugins or anything lagging it out... so, I've had this problem for over a month now
#4433 [22:24] <xales> The error means that the server isn't getting enough CPU time. What OS are you running on?
#4434 [22:24] <{{Classic}}> no clue what is the cause
#4435 [22:24] * DiskDaemon has his brain shut down, due to {{template}} notation
#4435 [22:24] <{{Classic}}> windows 2003 server
#4436 [22:24] <xales> If I had to hazard a guess, there's your problem. ._.
#4437 [22:25] <{{Classic}}> they've been running for over a year just fine. This issue has just started
#4438 [22:25] <xales> If it's not CPU-bound, it's probably disk-bound, in this case.
#4439 [22:25] <xales> Check IO usage.
#4440 [22:25] <{{Classic}}> the server is on a SSD which only runs this particular server
#4441 [22:26] <{{Classic}}> but I'll give that a try xales... switch it to the platter and see what it does
#4442 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Try switching out the world, see if that changes anything?
#4443 [22:26] <xales> ^
#4444 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Corrupted world chunks can cause problems
#4445 [22:26] <xales> Changing the drive *shouldn't* matter unless it's a system bus issue or something
#4446 [22:27] <xales> (still good to try though)
#4447 [22:27] <{{Classic}}> I was thinking possibly a corrupted chunk... I ran region fixer, and it found a few bad chunks for the nether world
#4448 [22:27] <{{Classic}}> those were deleted...
#4449 [22:27] <{{Classic}}> anything else to locate/repair chunks?
#4450 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> mcedit?
#4451 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> chunkster or MCedit?
#4452 [22:30] <{{Classic}}> ok, thanks guys
#4453 [22:30] * Teddy_P [Teddy_P@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4454 [22:38] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4455 [22:39] * |Anthony| [|Anthony|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4456 [22:58] * Me4502 [Me4502@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4457 [23:12] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4458 [23:23] * Jaggermeister [Jaggermeister@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4459 [23:25] <Jaggermeister> hey. I'm having connection issues in minecraft specifically. Both in the application and browser, my ping on any server is about 35 seconds. I've tested to see if it's my connection, I can play other games perfectly fine online, and pinging servers in the cmd window gives me a ping of about 84 milliseconds. My firewall is disabled, so is my antivirus. Help?
#4460 [23:26] <Jaggermeister> this problem occured straight after the minecraft update to the latest version
#4461 [23:39] * Siana [Siana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4462 [23:39] <Siana> [05:36] <Siana> helloes. i've been looking to find a way to run minecraft demo. can't be made work, can it? -.-
#4463 [23:39] <Siana> [05:36] <Siana> originally i had it stuck on done loading. [05:36] <Siana> i followed this instruction: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1401643-minecraft-131-demo-crash-fix-windows/ [05:37] <Siana> now minecraft window turns black instead, and stays that way. -.-
#4464 [23:40] <Siana> 05:38] <Siana> would i have the same issues if i purchased minecraft?
#4465 [23:40] <Siana> [05:38] <Siana> i'm running windows 2008r2 (equivalent to windows 7) 64-bit and i have installed latest 64-bit JRE today.
#4466 [23:40] <gv> Not. Currently, no
#4467 [23:40] <Siana> sorry for quoting myself, i was in another channel, where i said all this and they asked me to go here.
#4468 [23:40] <gv> It's a known issue.
#4469 [23:41] <Siana> no = no way to make minecraft demo run at the moment, or no = i would not be able to play even if i purchased?
#4470 [23:41] <gv> First one.
#4471 [23:41] <Siana> thanks.
#4472 [23:42] <Siana> maybe someone responsible could put up a short note at a prominent place or unpublish the demo, because i have wasted hours looking for a solution.
#4473 [23:44] <lutzee> Siana, we are not affiliated with mojang, we are only customer support
#4474 [23:44] <Siana> then who is the right person to ping about this?
#4475 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> The only way to run the demo is if someone else on that same computer account has installed Minecraft with their premium account.
#4476 [23:45] <lutzee> No one here, you are better off trying to tweet one of mojang,
#4477 [23:47] <Siana> ok, tweeted @jeb
#4478 [23:48] <gv> Jeb or jeb_?
#4479 [23:48] <lutzee> er jebs twitter is @jeb_
#4480 [23:48] <Siana> yes @jeb_
#4481 [23:48] <Siana> sorry.
#4482 [23:48] <gv> Just making sure
#4483 [23:48] <Siana> random question, i haven't touched java for years, but i somehow cannot get it to display a tray icon and debug console.
#4484 [23:49] <gv> Check java's control panel and
#4485 [23:49] <Siana> i did.
#4486 [23:49] <Siana> enabled.
#4487 [23:49] <gv> OS?
#4488 [23:49] <Siana> even when i run minecraft.jar directly, i don't get the tray icon.
#4489 [23:49] <Siana> Windows 2008R2 64-bit as mentioned.
#4490 [23:50] <Siana> it's a server build of windows 7.
#4491 [23:50] <gv> Hmm. Not familiar with that.
#4492 [23:51] <Siana> behaves same as windows 7 64-bit in pretty much every regard, unless you try to detect it specifically.
#4493 [23:51] <gv> What version of java are you running?
#4494 [23:51] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4495 [23:52] <Siana> java version "1.7.0_05" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b06) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.1-b03, mixed mode)
#4496 [23:53] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4497 [23:53] <gv> Was this a clean install of java? Do you have any other versions installed?
#4498 [23:54] <Siana> there are no other versions installed.
#4499 [23:55] <Siana> the java control panel lists only this, and i think i didn't have java installed on this windows till today.
#4500 [23:56] <gv> Hmm. I don't know then. Can't think of a reason why there wouldn't be a tray icon if it's enabled in the control panel.
#4501 [23:56] <Siana> thank you.
#4502 [23:56] <gv> Perhaps it's set as hidden in windows?
#4503 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Testing on mine confirms that. javaw.exe is the process, which is the jre7 version that's located in the program files folder. Even though I've enabled the Java control panel setting in the Advanced tab, under Miscellaneous called "Place java icon in system tray" it doesn't show.
#4504 [23:57] <Siana> ok, thanks DiskDaemon
#4505 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Setting it as hidden should still let it be seen when you click the arrow for more system tray icons