#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-06
#1 [00:00] <prototype151> You never usually use all of your ram anyways though
#2 [00:00] <prototype151> but 4 gigs u might.
#3 [00:00] <prototype151> thats not much
#4 [00:00] <ObliviArt> yea it could...maybe...doubt it but maybe
#5 [00:00] <ObliviArt> 4 gig is a lot to me since my last system was only 1gig
#6 [00:01] <prototype151> u can check your core usages too. That might explain some things
#7 [00:01] <prototype151> 1 gig? da fawk
#8 [00:01] <prototype151> lol
#9 [00:01] <prototype151> what did you have?? windows me?
#10 [00:01] <prototype151> xD
#11 [00:01] <ObliviArt> xp
#12 [00:01] <prototype151> stil....
#13 [00:01] <ObliviArt> i liked windows xp
#14 [00:01] <prototype151> blehhh
#15 [00:01] <prototype151> grose
#16 [00:01] <Dragonmen7> hay! i used ME for 7 years and never had a problem
#17 [00:01] <prototype151> anyways...
#18 [00:02] <Dragonmen7> until my basement flooded lol
#19 [00:02] <prototype151> Its not that it was bad. It was just old..
#20 [00:02] <Dragonmen7> true that
#21 [00:02] <ObliviArt> well the comp was as old as xp was
#22 [00:02] <Elystus> now windows 98 >_>
#23 [00:02] <prototype151> well it wasn't old
#24 [00:02] <prototype151> But it is now
#25 [00:02] <prototype151> Terminal...
#26 [00:02] <prototype151> lol
#27 [00:02] <Dragonmen7> fatality
#28 [00:02] <prototype151> xD
#29 [00:03] <ObliviArt> i still have a working win 98 system....use it for older games
#30 [00:03] <prototype151> Ya i have windows 8.. I use it for new games....
#31 [00:03] <Dragonmen7> I updated my ati and it is giving me the same error message
#32 [00:03] <prototype151> what error drag
#33 [00:03] <ObliviArt> anyway i will try the ram idea
#34 [00:03] <ObliviArt> ty
#35 [00:04] <ObliviArt> o how do i see core usage?
#36 [00:04] <prototype151> How much.. oh yeah.. 4
#37 [00:04] <prototype151> Control panel
#38 [00:04] <prototype151> Im not sure fully. But its in there
#39 [00:04] <prototype151> Let me see if i cand find it
#40 [00:05] <prototype151> Performance info and tools
#41 [00:05] <prototype151> Do you have win 7?
#42 [00:05] <ObliviArt> yea
#43 [00:05] <prototype151> make sure u are in all control panel items view
#44 [00:06] <prototype151> then click Perormance info button
#45 [00:06] <prototype151> should be somewhere under there. Or just.. www.google.com :D
#46 [00:06] <prototype151> search how to see core usage
#47 [00:06] <prototype151> lol
#48 [00:07] <prototype151> Theres even a gadget for it
#49 [00:07] <ObliviArt> well i will snoop around
#50 [00:07] <ObliviArt> ty
#51 [00:07] <prototype151> ight
#52 [00:08] <prototype151> lol shadow
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#54 [00:09] <Dragonmen7> @ Elystus: I updated my ati and it is giving me the same error message
#55 [00:09] <prototype151> Whats the error Drag
#56 [00:09] <prototype151> Brb gotta take a piss
#57 [00:10] <Elystus> .__. didn't need to know that
#58 [00:10] <Elystus> Dragonene: I never chose drivers for you.
#59 [00:10] <prototype151> ya well now u know
#60 [00:10] <Elystus> Did you post a dxdiag?
#61 [00:10] <prototype151> Im pissing
#62 [00:10] <slowfi> I think there's a optifine 1.3.1 that works, sorta. not sure about modloader
#63 [00:10] <prototype151> u fail
#64 [00:11] <prototype151> optifine and modloader arent related
#65 [00:11] <prototype151> Ones a modloader... and another is a mod
#66 [00:11] <prototype151> shit missed the rim
#67 [00:11] <prototype151> brb
#68 [00:11] <Dragonmen7> yes, where do i drop it at?
#69 [00:11] <Dragonmen7> what website i mean
#70 [00:11] <slowfi> they're both popular mods.
#71 [00:11] <Dragonmen7> @ prototype: ew
#72 [00:13] <slowfi> being popular minecraft mods counts as a sort of relation
#73 [00:13] <Elystus> prototype151: Stop with the status updates. we don't need to know what you are doing every second. If you need to pee, just say afk. Or you can just leave and come back.
#74 [00:13] <prototype151> Why do i care what you say
#75 [00:14] <prototype151> Remind me. I forgot
#76 [00:14] <slowfi> modloader counts as a mod
#77 [00:15] <prototype151> nawh
#78 [00:15] <Elystus> It does count as a mod...
#79 [00:15] <prototype151> its techinicially a mod butdoesnt change the ingame
#80 [00:15] <prototype151> well u could argue that point
#81 [00:15] <prototype151> but im not gonna
#82 [00:15] <slowfi> it doesn't do very much unless you use other mods
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#84 [00:16] <prototype151> It doesnt do anything but load mods
#85 [00:16] <prototype151> ,3
#86 [00:16] <prototype151> <3
#87 [00:16] <slowfi> you can take it up with risu in the other channel
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#89 [00:16] <Dragonmen7> error: org.lgwjl.LGWJLEception: Pixel format not accelerated
#90 [00:16] <Elystus> Dragonene: Do you have a dxdiag?
#91 [00:16] <Dragonmen7> sorry about laggin out
#92 [00:16] <Dragonmen7> yes i do
#93 [00:16] <computerproblem> when playing on my single player world i created the enchantment table/all of the book shelves and the correct formation for it. the max level of enchanting it lets me do is 30. it wont go above :(
#94 [00:17] <Elystus> computerproblem: The recently capped it at 30.
#95 [00:17] <Elystus> There is nothing wrong with your computer.
#96 [00:17] <computerproblem> so 50 is no longer the max,
#97 [00:17] <Smanly> Lol
#98 [00:17] <Smanly> Enchanting was changed a bunch
#99 [00:17] <Elystus> Nope
#100 [00:17] <computerproblem> WAIIII
#101 [00:18] <slowfi> I heard they changed enchantment. Once I got a level 50 mod
#102 [00:18] <computerproblem> what else did they do to it?
#103 [00:18] <slowfi> see wiki
#104 [00:18] <Dragonmen7> they blew it up. poof. boom. gone.
#105 [00:18] <Dragonmen7> lol
#106 [00:19] <slowfi> level 50 enchantmentments can be very disappointing
#107 [00:19] <prototype151> SKIDOOSH
#108 [00:19] <prototype151> hold on gotta drop the kids off at the pool
#109 [00:20] <Dragonmen7> i remember pasting my dxdiag on a site, but i dont remember what the site name is
#110 [00:20] <slowfi> you kill silverfish and zombies for hours to get something crappy like bane of arthropods I
#111 [00:21] <Wug> slowfi: they scaled the max level down to 30
#112 [00:21] <Wug> looks like someone said that already
#113 [00:22] <Dragonmen7> eeyup
#114 [00:23] <Wug> you can make a blaze grinder that can get you to level 30 in about 15 minutes
#115 [00:23] <Wug> I made one as a proof of concept
#116 [00:23] <Wug> http://imgur.com/9RZW4
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#119 [00:24] <jack> hello everyone
#120 [00:24] <Dragonmen7> hai
#121 [00:24] <Dragonmen7> did you poof Elystus?
#122 [00:24] <Elystus> What?
#123 [00:24] <jack> ???
#124 [00:24] <Elystus> I went to make some cookies, sorry :P
#125 [00:24] <slowfi> blaze grinder is too complicated. don't you need a lot of pistons to push them around? etho's design
#126 [00:25] <Dragonmen7> lol sorry thought everyone left at once. but its just my laggin comp bein stupid >.<
#127 [00:25] <Elystus> the site name is pastebin.com Dragonmen7.
#128 [00:26] <jack> whats pastebin.com?
#129 [00:26] <slowfi> the easiest for me is big spider experience generator. I can get 39 levels in 30 minutes
#130 [00:26] <Dragonmen7> http://pastebin.com/M1hc4ZL9
#131 [00:27] <Dragonmen7> lol i unt a cuukie!!
#132 [00:28] <slowfi> who invented cave spiders? tthey suck
#133 [00:31] <Dragonmen7>
#134 [00:33] <slowfi> next will be cute little cave zombies attacking you from 1-high windows and apertures
#135 [00:34] <Elystus> Dragonmen7: Well the issue is this: Card name: Standard VGA Graphics Adapter
#136 [00:34] <Elystus> the drivers aren't right
#137 [00:35] <Elystus> but I found out that this is your graphics card: ATI RADEON® XPRESS 200M IGP
#138 [00:35] <Dragonmen7> ah. anything i can do?
#139 [00:35] <Dragonmen7> right.
#140 [00:35] <Elystus> also I found out that the card has 128mb of dedicated memory
#141 [00:35] <Elystus> Which is below minimum.
#142 [00:35] <Dragonmen7> the minimum being...?
#143 [00:36] <Elystus> I think it is 256 or something like that.
#144 [00:36] <Dragonmen7> crap.... >.<
#145 [00:36] <Elystus> I tried looking for drivers from AMD and was unable to find any.
#146 [00:37] <Elystus> SO, there is not much I can do.
#147 [00:37] <Wug> mars landing in about 45 minutes
#148 [00:37] <Wug> nasa livestream: http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl
#149 [00:37] <Dragonmen7> ok. well, thanks anyway. at least ik the problem nao...
#150 [00:38] <Dragonmen7> YAY!!! nasa is being productive
#151 [00:38] <Dragonmen7> XD
#152 [00:39] <Dragonmen7> ty help admin again. have a good night
#153 [00:40] <Wug> Elystus: bad graphics drivers?
#154 [00:41] <Wug> there is no definitive minimum, but some cards do not handle opengl well
#155 [00:41] <Elystus> Wug: I couldn't find drivers on the amd site for it
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#157 [01:00] <Kanegasi> my !seen script should be disabled for this channel
#158 [01:00] <Kanegasi> thank you for the warning
#159 [01:01] <Smanly> wat?
#160 [01:01] <Wug> lol
#161 [01:02] <Wug> Kanegasi: ack
#162 [01:02] <Kanegasi> kealper kb'd me around 5pm est
#163 [01:02] <Kanegasi> so i put a halt in my seen script for this channel
#164 [01:05] <Wug> yeah, i remember
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#170 [01:44] <adrien> anybody out there ?
#171 [01:44] <Elystus> whatcha need?
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#173 [01:45] <ihope4me> I have a Toshiba portage M400 and Minecraft is telling that i have bad video card drivers. what should i do
#174 [01:46] <adrien> I want to purchase minecraft but i can't run the free version in my browser, i have an iMac 27"
#175 [01:47] <Elystus> adrien: hold, I need to check something
#176 [01:47] <Elystus> ??>> ihope4me win/dxdiag
#177 [01:48] <Elystus> adrien: Are you playing classic?
#178 [01:48] <Elystus> trying to play classic rather :/
#179 [01:49] <adrien> i want to, but it wont load, it says "switching applet" and then a message comes up saying there's an error and when I click OK the minecraft screen goes black
#180 [01:50] <Wug> the free version doesn't work on macs
#181 [01:50] <Elystus> what version of Java do you have?
#182 [01:50] <Wug> im pretty sure it hasnt since sometime last year
#183 [01:50] <Elystus> Oh it doesn't wug?
#184 [01:50] <Wug> nope
#185 [01:51] <Elystus> good to know :)
#186 [01:51] <Wug> adrien: the full version works fine however
#187 [01:51] <adrien> reaaaaally ?
#188 [01:51] <Wug> yep
#189 [01:52] <Wug> you can skip straight to buying it
#190 [01:52] <adrien> i just need to make my account premium right? and then use the minecraft launcher right ?
#191 [01:52] <Wug> yep
#192 [01:52] <adrien> are you suuuuuuuure it'll load then ?
#193 [01:52] <Wug> if you have issues with it, you can come here and ask for help
#194 [01:52] <Wug> sure.
#195 [01:52] <ihope4me> http://pastebin.com/xXHnsQMt
#196 [01:52] <adrien> if I bought the xbox version do I get a discount or anything? haha
#197 [01:53] <Wug> adrien: unfortunately no.
#198 [01:53] <adrien> too bad haha anyway, I have another question
#199 [01:54] <Wug> ask away
#200 [01:54] <adrien> how can I play with my friends online? do I have to host a server or something like that?
#201 [01:54] <ihope4me> Elystus: went and did what you told me here is the adress http://pastebin.com/xXHnsQMt
#202 [01:54] <Elystus> ihope4me: These are the latest drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2301&lang=eng
#203 [01:54] <Elystus> Sorry, was looking them up.
#204 [01:55] <ihope4me> its ok. so i just download these?
#205 [01:56] <adrien> D:
#206 [01:57] <ihope4me> there was an error that said the diver was "not validated" and told me to obtain the appropriat driver from the manufacture
#207 [01:57] <adrien> also, is there voice chat on the multiplayer mode? :3
#208 [01:57] <Elystus> ihope4me: Try this one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=15278&ProdId=2301&lang=eng
#209 [01:59] <ihope4me> same thing
#210 [01:59] <Wug> ihope4me: get teamviewer
#211 [01:59] <Wug> actually wait
#212 [01:59] <ihope4me> whats teamviewer
#213 [02:00] <Wug> I hate toshiba so much
#214 [02:00] <ihope4me> i know
#215 [02:01] <Wug> I dont think ive ever seen a product they've sold in their list of driver downloads
#216 [02:01] <Wug> im pretty sure they just make up names
#217 [02:01] <Elystus> They probably do
#218 [02:02] <Wug> screw them
#219 [02:02] <Wug> ihope4me: grab teamviewer
#220 [02:02] <Wug> ??> ihope4me teamviewer
#221 [02:02] <VoxelHead> ihope4me: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#222 [02:02] <VoxelHead> ihope4me: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#223 [02:04] <ihope4me> ok i got teamviewer
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#225 [02:07] <ObliviArt> hello all, I am back again
#226 [02:08] <ObliviArt> elystus you at the computer?
#227 [02:08] <Elystus> yes
#228 [02:08] <ObliviArt> i tried what you said earlier about the ram
#229 [02:08] <ObliviArt> still getting like epic status spikes in the server readout
#230 [02:09] <Elystus> When the server is running, what percentage of the processor is being used?
#231 [02:09] <ObliviArt> it shows like 65% steady and jumps to 90% at a spike
#232 [02:10] <ObliviArt> it is a dual core 3,2 mhz
#233 [02:10] <ObliviArt> er ghz
#234 [02:10] <ObliviArt> sec let me look again
#235 [02:10] <ObliviArt> 3.2 ghz x2
#236 [02:11] <ObliviArt> i was no able to find out how to look at traffic flow for both cores though
#237 [02:11] <ObliviArt> i kinda feel like one might not be getting used at all
#238 [02:13] <ObliviArt> just started up the server and it jumped to 88% and now sits a 10-15%
#239 [02:14] <Elystus> is that from the server window? or from task manager?
#240 [02:14] <ObliviArt> it is on a little cpu monitor i have
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#242 [02:15] <ObliviArt> memory at 42$ used
#243 [02:15] <ObliviArt> %
#244 [02:15] <Elystus> ObliviArt: I think your computer just may not be able to handle running a server and playing minecraft at the same time.
#245 [02:16] <Elystus> How long does it take before it starts lagging out?
#246 [02:16] <ObliviArt> it just started doing this recently it lags out at like major activity points
#247 [02:17] <ObliviArt> like when there are a lot of blocks around
#248 [02:17] <Elystus> are you sure that it is not chunk errors.
#249 [02:17] <ObliviArt> aka jungle area
#250 [02:17] <ObliviArt> or for example i mean
#251 [02:17] <Elystus> ObliviArt: Start a new world and see if the lag is there.
#252 [02:18] <ObliviArt> ok, currect world is new today. i will make another
#253 [02:21] <ObliviArt> aw man total fail world....nothing but water
#254 [02:21] <ObliviArt> it spiked at start which i expected
#255 [02:21] <ObliviArt> let me stress test it
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#260 [02:31] <marijke> hi there i am trying to work out to put mods on minecraft 1.3.1
#261 [02:31] <marijke> i have no idea if i have to download anything or buy anything or whta
#262 [02:32] <marijke> hello?
#263 [02:32] <Elystus> WE do not support mods
#264 [02:32] <Elystus> go to #Risucraft
#265 [02:32] <marijke> do u have any idea wherei would go to for help with this?
#266 [02:32] <marijke> thank u :)
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#268 [02:39] <ObliviArt> ok i went back to my main world and it seems ok atm
#269 [02:40] <ObliviArt> i set ram back to 2 gig
#270 [02:41] <Wug> ObliviArt: do you have 64 bit java
#271 [02:41] <ObliviArt> yea
#272 [02:45] <ObliviArt> thats good right?
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#281 [03:08] * zzzz BOO
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#282 [03:12] <zzzz> now we need salt
#283 [03:13] <zzzz> you guys are no fun
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#285 [03:17] <Caboose> I keep on getting my game crashing and saying internal server error and then this: ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // My bad. Time: 8/4/12 11:05 PM Description: Exception in server tick loop java.lang.NullPointerException at yi.a(SourceFile:88) at xm.a(SourceFile:448) at gp.a(ChunkProviderServer.java:209) at wk.a(Chunk.java:1162) at gp.c(ChunkProviderServer.java:100) at go.<init>(SourceFile:26) at gn.a(SourceFile:171)
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#291 [03:35] <TheCreeperDJ> I need some help with the MineCraft Demo. I have the latest java and a pretty good computer. I can't seem to get it to fully load. I do not own MineCraft. Please help.
#292 [03:36] <gv> The demo in its current version does not work
#293 [03:36] <Calinou> unfortunately, you have to buy minecraft to play the demo (which also gives you access to full game of course) which makes it basically useless
#294 [03:36] <Calinou> ragequit.
#295 [03:39] <Wug> it's derped
#296 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, work work work...
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#298 [03:52] <skyboy> !k skyboy
#299 [03:52] <Elystus|Laptop> ..
#300 [03:53] <skyboy> what?
#301 [03:53] <skyboy> i have to check to see if the bot still lets anyone kick :P
#302 [03:53] <skyboy> !paid !k skyboy
#303 [03:54] * Elystus|Laptop uses !k Elystus
#303 [03:55] <Wug> skyboy: we fixed that
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#305 [03:55] <Wug> GreyVulpine: why are there like 3 of you
#306 [03:55] <Wug> one left I guess
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#308 [03:56] <skyboy> Wug: it's still worth checking
#309 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> Me. Greybot. and me on the phone
#310 [03:56] <Wug> you need a bouncer
#311 [03:56] <Wug> just make sure to set the scrollback to like 30 lines
#312 [03:56] <Wug> phones dont like much more than that
#313 [03:56] <Wug> mine has seizures if I connect to my bouncer with it
#314 [03:57] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#314 [03:57] <Wug> dont you have work
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#316 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#317 [03:58] <Wug> FourParesite: Parasite*
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#320 [03:58] <Wug> GreyVulpine: shouldn't you go to bed
#321 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> I just got up for work.
#322 [03:59] <Wug> what are your hours? they sound ugly.
#323 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> 5-3:30
#324 [03:59] * GreyVulpine heads off.
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#325 [04:02] <FourParesite> I need some help... I was playing my game just fine until 11pm central time. I just got back on xbox live to play and now I cannot rotate my character. My wife's & kid's character cannot mine any items to make torches or tools either.
#326 [04:03] <Wug> is this the xbox version or the computer version
#327 [04:04] <FourParesite> xbox
#328 [04:05] <Wug> I've never used the xbox version actually
#329 [04:05] <FourParesite> oh
#330 [04:05] <Wug> can you come back tomorrow afternoon?
#331 [04:05] <Wug> most of the helpers are sleeping
#332 [04:05] <Wug> someone might know, but I dont
#333 [04:06] <FourParesite> okay... I will try. My kids will be so bummed in the morning!
#334 [04:06] <FourParesite> thanks anyway
#335 [04:06] <Wug> you've double checked the controls, right?
#336 [04:06] <Wug> also, I know that on the pc version, in order to mine things, you must click and hold
#337 [04:07] <FourParesite> yes I have 3 out of 4 accounts that are working all but the mining and mine I can get to do anything
#338 [04:07] <FourParesite> I am worried I may have been hacked or something...
#339 [04:07] <Wug> its probably just a bug
#340 [04:07] <FourParesite> I have uninstalled and downloaded again and it doesn't fix
#341 [04:08] <Wug> its probably a glitch with your world
#342 [04:08] <Wug> maybe?
#343 [04:08] <Wug> are you using the same world?
#344 [04:08] <FourParesite> well, I will keep looking. I am waiting on 4 emails from technical support.
#345 [04:09] <Wug> if you try a different world on the same account, does it still misbehave?
#346 [04:09] <FourParesite> No I tried making new ones
#347 [04:09] <Wug> can you set the controls somewhere?
#348 [04:09] <Wug> if so, try resetting them
#349 [04:10] <FourParesite> I will look....
#350 [04:13] <FourParesite> I can redet the graphis and controller settings
#351 [04:13] <FourParesite> I am going to try to mine something to see if that helps
#352 [04:16] <FourParesite> I can rotate mine now!
#353 [04:16] <FourParesite> thank you
#354 [04:16] <Wug> np
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#363 [04:31] <jomos> Hello. Anyone got a moment to help me?
#364 [04:42] <Red_M> has anyone else noticed that sometimes with the creative fly the game just disappears? like you closed the window?
#365 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> not as such, now
#366 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> *no
#367 [04:44] <Red_M> its odd
#368 [04:44] <Red_M> and even one of my mod's fly does the same thing too
#369 [04:44] <jomos> I can't conect to any servers. The servers are up. have friends on them. But I keep getting "can't reach the server", "failed to connect to the server - connection timed out: connect" What's wrong?
#370 [04:45] <Red_M> jomos: i had the same thing... on a server i own... the server is outdated
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#372 [04:47] <CaptainDrawgon> hello can you help me when i paly minecraft in browser and start updating it says fatal error (4): error writing to server
#373 [04:48] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: did you have a pirated client before?
#374 [04:48] <CaptainDrawgon> no
#375 [04:48] <CaptainDrawgon> well like year ago
#376 [04:48] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: you on windows?
#377 [04:48] <CaptainDrawgon> it worked on client but my dad put a fsecure parental whatchmacallit
#378 [04:48] <CaptainDrawgon> then minecraft wont connect
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#380 [04:49] <CaptainDrawgon> and i had to play on browser but not it says that
#381 [04:49] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: you on windows?
#382 [04:49] <CaptainDrawgon> yes
#383 [04:49] <CaptainDrawgon> windows 7 62bit
#384 [04:49] <Red_M> goto an explorer window and type in the address bar "%appdata%/.minecraft/bin" -- without quotes
#385 [04:50] <Red_M> and then press ctrl-A and delete then enter
#386 [04:50] <Red_M> sorry.
#387 [04:50] <Red_M> ctrl-A then release then delete then release then enter
#388 [04:50] <CaptainDrawgon> what it does
#389 [04:50] <Red_M> then try again
#390 [04:50] <CaptainDrawgon> oh
#391 [04:50] <CaptainDrawgon> it deletes thenm
#392 [04:50] <Red_M> clears the game's install
#393 [04:51] <Red_M> yeah...
#394 [04:51] <Red_M> then try again
#395 [04:51] <CaptainDrawgon> i deleted .minecraft already
#396 [04:51] <Red_M> if it doesnt work get a new computer or -- oh lord
#397 [04:51] <Red_M> sigh
#398 [04:52] <CaptainDrawgon> get a new computer for minecraft?'
#399 [04:52] <Red_M> get a new/other computer or get rid of that parental shit
#400 [04:52] <CaptainDrawgon> well i think that thats the answer
#401 [04:52] <CaptainDrawgon> but my dad wont take it off
#402 [04:52] <Red_M> damn asshole parents... its the reason i dont let them touch ma shiot
#403 [04:52] <Red_M> *ma shit
#404 [04:52] <CaptainDrawgon> well i dont own my own computer this is my parents
#405 [04:52] <Red_M> and the reason i OWN my router and wireless AP
#406 [04:53] <CaptainDrawgon> wuut?
#407 [04:53] <Red_M> well get around it or suffer
#408 [04:53] <Red_M> i own all the computer shit in ma house
#409 [04:53] <CaptainDrawgon> minecraft worked before dad did something lastnight
#410 [04:53] <Red_M> cause im the only one who has the brain to fix all the things
#411 [04:53] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: i would go get a VM
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#413 [04:54] <CaptainDrawgon> vm?
#414 [04:54] <Red_M> or try to screw with the parental crap
#415 [04:54] <jomos> I using the same version as server, doublechecked with friends who's playing atm. Still canät reach server.
#416 [04:54] <Red_M> .g VM
#417 [04:54] <Red_M> sigh
#418 [04:54] <CaptainDrawgon> my dad has worked in computer company
#419 [04:54] <Red_M> jomos: try another computer or from a different location
#420 [04:55] <CaptainDrawgon> are you from sweden?
#421 [04:55] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: i go up against a school IT guy... and i still can get around all the school blocks... i practically own this school laptop
#422 [04:55] <CaptainDrawgon> are you from sweden
#423 [04:56] <Red_M> no... im what some call a hacker
#424 [04:56] <CaptainDrawgon> im from finland
#425 [04:56] <CaptainDrawgon> well i can always play tekkit
#426 [04:56] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: press crtl-shift=-esc
#427 [04:57] <Red_M> *ctrl-shift-esc
#428 [04:57] <CaptainDrawgon> then
#429 [04:57] <CaptainDrawgon> FUU TEKKIT update
#430 [04:57] <Red_M> then go to the processes tab and try to find anything that doesnt look right
#431 [04:57] <Red_M> like something new
#432 [04:57] <CaptainDrawgon> i can connect to tekkit either becose that fcking fsecure
#433 [04:57] <Red_M> or that doesnt belong
#434 [04:58] <CaptainDrawgon> its fsecure
#435 [04:58] <Red_M> sigh... some parental crap is soo stupid you can actually end the process that it is
#436 [04:58] <Red_M> try to end process it
#437 [04:58] <Red_M> see what it does
#438 [04:59] <CaptainDrawgon> its fsecure i think that it messes whole virus protection if i shut it down
#439 [04:59] <Red_M> CaptainDrawgon: do you have to put in some login details into the web browser before it works?
#440 [04:59] <Red_M> oh its anti-virus
#441 [04:59] <Red_M> then go into and remove it and get avast
#442 [05:00] <CaptainDrawgon> duuuh
#443 [05:00] <Red_M> much better and less like vista
#444 [05:00] <CaptainDrawgon> my dad has paid fsecure
#445 [05:00] <Red_M> tell him he is stupid for buying anti-virus
#446 [05:00] <Red_M> and go get avast
#447 [05:00] <Red_M> or AVG
#448 [05:00] <Red_M> works just as well if not better
#449 [05:01] <CaptainDrawgon> well we will get avast dad got fsecure for cheap to this computer and my brother got avast i think this computer will get it too when license ends
#450 [05:02] <Red_M> using avast and AVG is overkill but its the best protection based on popularity and from experience
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#453 [05:03] <Red_M> i have never had a virus since like 2002
#454 [05:03] <CaptainDrawgon> overkill?
#455 [05:03] <Red_M> yes very
#456 [05:03] <CaptainDrawgon> can you explain what it means i come from finland so english isnt our main language
#457 [05:03] <Red_M> your having files and connections scanned TWICE
#458 [05:04] <Red_M> and i have no idea if AVG/avast would spaz out because of each other
#459 [05:04] <Red_M> infact i think i have NEVER paid for anti-virus
#460 [05:05] <Calinou> why do people even use AVs?
#461 [05:05] <CaptainDrawgon> well duh
#462 [05:05] <Calinou> it's actually perfectly possible to "live" without an AV
#463 [05:05] <Calinou> just have adblock, noscript & such
#464 [05:05] <CaptainDrawgon> if you download like mods maps you never know are they viruses
#465 [05:05] <Calinou> download them from trusted places, such as the minecraft forums
#466 [05:05] <Calinou> also, you can easily know whether a mod is safe or not, see OP's grammar, etc
#467 [05:05] <CaptainDrawgon> like i downloaded terraria mods and they both were on terrariawikia both had viruses
#468 [05:06] <Calinou> wikia is an hellhole
#469 [05:06] <jomos> Ok, I could login on the server using my phone hotspot. Is the problem within my router?
#470 [05:06] <Calinou> jomos, huh, from phone hotspot?
#471 [05:06] <Calinou> pocket edition?
#472 [05:06] <Red_M> jomos: might be a router between your router and the host
#473 [05:06] <Red_M> just an internet broken pipe
#474 [05:06] <Red_M> it should be back soon
#475 [05:07] <Boreeas> Calinou: I use all that, and an AV program, /and/ I use Linux
#476 [05:07] <Red_M> Boreeas: linux doesnt need an AV
#477 [05:07] <Red_M> but i gtg for dinner
#478 [05:07] <Red_M> brb
#479 [05:07] <Boreeas> There are still viruses for Linux, just less than for Windows
#480 [05:07] <Boreeas> I'm not taking the risk
#481 [05:08] <Boreeas> It's barely noticeable anyway
#482 [05:08] <jomos> No, playing on my pc but using my phone hotspot intead of ordinary wifi. But when using my wifi I can't connect.
#483 [05:10] <CaptainDrawgon> how can i join to like direwolf20 irc channel
#484 [05:11] <Boreeas> CaptainDrawgon: /join <channelname>
#485 [05:11] <Boreeas> Or, depending on your client, you may also need /join #<channelname>
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#488 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> So when #direwolf20 is mentioned
#489 [05:18] <DiskDaemon> It's just plain text on the webchat screen, but /join works without the # when using the webchat interface
#490 [05:19] <Red_M> DiskDaemon: i think the web client can actually click on a chan name like #direwolf20 to join it...
#491 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> Not with the webchat that I was using. Clicking, doubleclicking, etc, didn't achieve much at all
#492 [05:20] <Boreeas> I try to avoid teaching that to people, because that leads to them saying channel names just to click on them
#493 [05:21] <Red_M> Boreeas: they could /msg themselves the bastards
#494 [05:21] <Boreeas> Don't you think it's easier to use /join then? :P
#495 [05:21] <Red_M> DiskDaemon: you sure it was at http://webchat.esper.net
#496 [05:21] <Red_M> Boreeas: good point but still
#497 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> http://webchat.esper.net/?nick=TestingChannelNames
#498 [05:22] <Red_M> #painiscupcake
#499 [05:22] <Red_M> jks
#500 [05:23] <Red_M> i see you people have ... is it 3? bots in here... Y U NU HAVE GOOGLE SEARCH?!?!?
#501 [05:23] <Boreeas> Because most people are able to operate a web browser
#502 [05:24] <Red_M> Boreeas: but its faster and easier...
#503 [05:24] <Boreeas> It's faster to switch to IRC and wait for the bot to give you the search link than to press Ctrl+T and start typing your query?
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#505 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Red_M: Because we wish to reduce the amount of noise in this channel where practical
#506 [05:25] <Red_M> boreeas: im normally in IRC most the time
#507 [05:25] <Red_M> or im coding
#508 [05:25] <Red_M> but if i want to quickly search something someone has said in an IRC chan its quicker to ask my bot
#509 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> Red_M: We don't want to see everyone cluttering up the channel by performing such searches
#510 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> Red_M: Stop being so lazy - use your web browser for what it's designed to do :)
#511 [05:27] <TheNoodle> Red_M, you have your own bot you can query for web searches, no need for the rest of us to see what you're doing :)
#512 [05:27] <Red_M> DiskDaemon: sometimes its just easier plus i actually code and improve my bot... so i can actually mute it on a chan so that only bot admins can use it..
#513 [05:28] <Red_M> just sayin sometimes its really useful
#514 [05:28] <Boreeas> Alt+T Ctrl+T <query> Enter is still faster than !google <query> Enter ClickLink
#515 [05:29] <Red_M> atl-t?
#516 [05:29] <Red_M> you mean atl-tab
#517 [05:29] <Boreeas> Alt+Tab, sorry
#518 [05:29] <Kanegasi> i got banned just last night for a seen script. a google search bot is most definitely out of the question
#519 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> Red_M: What makes you think though that being admins, they will be wanting to use such services - when as admins they already typically have a web browser window or two open anyway for performing research?
#520 [05:29] <Red_M> *alt-tab
#521 [05:29] <Red_M> DiskDaemon: bot admins are different to chan admins
#522 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> Red_M: You have brought up the idea, the idea has been shot down - please drop it.
#523 [05:30] <Red_M> DiskDaemon: i was just sayin
#524 [05:31] <DiskDaemon> Yes thankyou, and the answer is no thanks.
#525 [05:31] <Red_M> Boreeas: dafaq does crtl-t do?
#526 [05:31] <Red_M> wasnt a question but oh well
#527 [05:31] <Arle> Ctrl+T is 'new tab'.
#528 [05:31] <Red_M> huh
#529 [05:32] <Red_M> oh well
#530 [05:32] <Kanegasi> yea, some people religiously use irc on web applets only, so ctrl-t brings up google for them
#531 [05:33] <Red_M> i hope Jeb fixes these small bugs with the singleplayer
#532 [05:33] <Red_M> Kanegasi: tell them to go get a job and to use a real client
#533 [05:33] <Kanegasi> uncalled for
#534 [05:33] <Boreeas> Kanegasi: I have a client, that's why I said Alt+Tab before. Switch to browser, open new tab, enter search, press enter.
#535 [05:34] <Kanegasi> i know, i was responding to red's question about ctrl-t
#536 [05:34] <Red_M> Boreeas: sometimes the browser isnt always the one behind ma client
#537 [05:34] <Kanegasi> and got a nasty response from it :P
#538 [05:35] <Red_M> Kanegasi: its ok you use a real client.. no need to worry
#539 [05:36] <Kanegasi> im not worried about that, i was mentioning your elitist response about web applets for irc. you are not superior due to the client you use
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#541 [05:38] <Red_M> Kanegasi: some chans actually insta-kicks you on espernet for using the webchat
#542 [05:38] <Red_M> no joke
#543 [05:39] <Kanegasi> in response to spam in the past
#544 [05:39] <Red_M> Kanegasi: #occupyesper use to insta-kick for webchat
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#547 [05:57] <minecraft_> hi everyone
#548 [05:58] <Arle> Hello
#549 [05:58] <minecraft_> i have a minecraft question
#550 [05:59] <Arle> OK, ask it.
#551 [05:59] <minecraft_> i made an account on the weekend and i still have not got the email yet
#552 [05:59] <Red_M> minecraft_: that would be why you are here.
#553 [05:59] <Red_M> minecraft_: read the topic pls
#554 [05:59] <Red_M> For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#555 [06:00] <minecraft_> ok thanks
#556 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> minecraft_: What does it say when you enter in your email address to this page: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#557 [06:01] <minecraft_> it says email not on record
#558 [06:02] <DiskDaemon> Then it seems that your email address may have been incorrectly entered originally
#559 [06:02] <minecraft_> so should i make another account?
#560 [06:03] <minecraft_> with the right email
#561 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> minecraft_: You can either do that, or you may find some useful info at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#562 [06:03] <minecraft_> ok
#563 [06:06] <minecraft_> thanks guys you helped alt
#564 [06:07] <minecraft_> you helped alot
#565 [06:07] <minecraft_> bye
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#569 [06:13] <PunkDaddy> Hi, I'm trying to run Minecraft on Ubuntu 11.04 and it appears the downloadable jar has some classes missing, does anyone know anythign about this?
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#571 [06:16] <PunkDaddy> Sorry I don't know what I am doing with irc I keep quitting by mistake
#572 [06:17] <Red_M> PunkDaddy: use windws
#573 [06:17] <Red_M> *windows
#574 [06:17] <Red_M> linux is for dev'ing not playing
#575 [06:17] <PunkDaddy> Yeah, I don't have windows
#576 [06:18] * Red_M one does simply not have a copy of windows simply lying around
#576 [06:18] <PunkDaddy> Minecraft is written in Java, which is cross platform, they supply a linux jar, which lead me to believe it would work.
#577 [06:18] <PunkDaddy> I get a ClassNotFoundException
#578 [06:19] <PunkDaddy> and the reason that Exception happens is because there appears to be an entire directory missing from the jar
#579 [06:20] <PunkDaddy> So does anyone know if I can download an archived version or if they are releasing a fixed version any time soon?
#580 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> What directory seems to be missing?
#581 [06:21] <PunkDaddy> a client directory
#582 [06:21] <PunkDaddy> the Exception is java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet
#583 [06:22] <PunkDaddy> and when inspecting the jar the only directories are net/minecraft
#584 [06:22] <PunkDaddy> and all classes are under that
#585 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> Would you mind pasting up the full error report to pastebin.com ?
#586 [06:22] <PunkDaddy> yeah I can do that
#587 [06:22] <Red_M> PunkDaddy: but will you do it?
#588 [06:22] <PunkDaddy> lol, ok I will do that
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#590 [06:30] <Ouwezemelaar> Hello, I have a question: How do I convert/or open a 1.8+(or higher) world into a 1.7.3 game client. Due to technical reasons, I cannot play on any gameclients higher then 1.7.3.
#591 [06:30] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: try to update? or run the game in a VM or get another computer
#592 [06:31] <Ouwezemelaar> Nono, I cannot play minecraft any higher then 1.7.3. Due to technical reasons.
#593 [06:31] <Ouwezemelaar> My graphic card, etc.
#594 [06:31] <Ouwezemelaar> I have a very old computer.
#595 [06:32] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: i have a 2007 DELL laptop... with intel chipset graphics... game runs fine
#596 [06:32] <Boreeas> The graphics did not change that much since 1.7.3
#597 [06:32] <Ouwezemelaar> Well, if I play 1.3.1 game client;
#598 [06:32] <Boreeas> Ouwezemelaar: What's your minecraft username
#599 [06:32] <Ouwezemelaar> I can run (and play) the game for about 5 minutes.
#600 [06:32] <Ouwezemelaar> Archibaldus.
#601 [06:33] <Boreeas> !paid archibaldus
#602 [06:33] <Red_M> Boreeas: SMP text now uses OpenGL 1.1 instead of 1.0 which means all coloured text in SMP is now white...
#603 [06:33] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: go pay for the game
#604 [06:33] <Red_M> then come back here
#605 [06:33] <Ouwezemelaar> But I cannot play the game.
#606 [06:34] <Boreeas> We will not help you pirate the game, sorry
#607 [06:34] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: sigh thats the reason why you cant play. you pirated it
#608 [06:34] <Red_M> go buy then we will help you
#609 [06:34] <Ouwezemelaar> It didn't work on my old account; so that can't be the problem.
#610 [06:35] <Red_M> question: have you paid for minecraft EVER?
#611 [06:35] <Ouwezemelaar> Yes,
#612 [06:35] <Ouwezemelaar> but after 1.7.3
#613 [06:35] <Ouwezemelaar> I wasn't able to play at all.
#614 [06:35] <Red_M> if you havent paid atleast once on any account then we wont help you
#615 [06:35] <Boreeas> So why did you give us an account name that was not premium then?
#616 [06:35] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: then get a better computer.
#617 [06:36] <PunkDaddy> Right , sorry that took so long I was just going through the procedure again
#618 [06:36] <Ouwezemelaar> Because I do not want everyone to know my account name.
#619 [06:36] <Red_M> Ouwezemelaar: you must have a really hunk a crap if you cant play past 1.7.3
#620 [06:36] <PunkDaddy> the pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/mXy2d2nR
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#622 [06:36] <Ouwezemelaar> It's something with the lightning system...
#623 [06:36] <Ouwezemelaar> Or Open_GL I think.
#624 [06:36] <Boreeas> Ouwezemelaar: Sorry, somehow I don't believe that. If anyone else wants to help you, it's up to them, but no help from me.
#625 [06:37] <Red_M> PunkDaddy: try the linux launcher from http://www.minecraft.net
#626 [06:38] <Red_M> wait
#627 [06:38] <Red_M> i lied
#628 [06:38] <Red_M> go look for a linux launcher
#629 [06:39] <Red_M> i gtg
#630 [06:39] <Red_M> see yas
#631 [06:39] <PunkDaddy> the linux launcher I downloaded was from minecraft.net
#632 [06:39] <PunkDaddy> See ya :)
#633 [06:39] <PunkDaddy> they just seem to host it pon amazin
#634 [06:39] <PunkDaddy> lol
#635 [06:39] <PunkDaddy> amazon
#636 [06:41] <Calinou> <Red_M> Boreeas: SMP text now uses OpenGL 1.1 instead of 1.0 which means all coloured text in SMP is now white...
#637 [06:42] <Calinou> how can SMP text use opengl1.0? MC required opengl1.1 at least, now it requires 1.2 at least, and ideally 1.3 (else a fallback is used for lighting)
#638 [06:42] <Calinou> and of course occlusion culling requires opengl2.0
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#640 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> ??> PunkDaddy dont/pm
#641 [06:50] <VoxelHead> PunkDaddy: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#642 [06:51] <SinZ> PunkDaddy: Amazon have amazing servers
#643 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> PunkDaddy: Please stop doing that. Your private messages don't appear in this #minecrafthelp channel, but end up in the other channels that I'm active in
#644 [06:53] <PunkDaddy> Sorry, as I said I don't know irc and just looked up how to message a user
#645 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> And I would appreciate it if I don't have PM's from this channel invading #pornchannel
#646 [06:53] <PunkDaddy> I didn't realise it was invisible to others
#647 [06:54] <PunkDaddy> Can imagine the text based irc porn must be awesome
#648 [06:55] <SinZ> ascii art
#649 [06:55] <SinZ> works well
#650 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> I can see that we have an expert in here :)
#651 [06:56] <SinZ> <3
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#653 [07:10] <PunkDaddy> Sorry, downgraded to 32but JDK and it works
#654 [07:10] <PunkDaddy> sorry for messing about
#655 [07:10] <PunkDaddy> 32 bit ffs
#656 [07:10] <PunkDaddy> stupid fat fingers
#657 [07:10] <PunkDaddy> ffs fat finger syndrome
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#659 [07:17] <amalierii> i downloaded the demo minecraft yesterday. When i was done i tryed to play the game, and it says "updating minecraft - done loading" but nothing happend
#660 [07:18] <amalierii> And it still don't work.
#661 [07:18] <DiskDaemon> The demo currently requires a premium member to have installed the game on there first.
#662 [07:19] <amalierii> what do i do to become a premium member?
#663 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> So it's currently really not a demo at this stage yet in the way that we understand demos. It's a part of the full game that is downloaded by someone who is a premium member.
#664 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> A premium member is someone who has paid for the game.
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#666 [07:25] <Bravekiller14> Anyone here i need help
#667 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> sure
#668 [07:26] <Bravekiller14> My minecraft is not installing
#669 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> What details can you tell us about it
#670 [07:28] <Bravekiller14> i try to install 1.3.1 and itr astart download then stop
#671 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#672 [07:31] <Bravekiller14> opk thank you i try that
#673 [07:31] <Bravekiller14> *Ok
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#677 [07:38] <CDparadis83> how do i see criticals when they happen and the hearts when breeding animals because i dont see any of those animations
#678 [07:38] <Calinou> options > video settings > set particles to "All"
#679 [07:38] <Calinou> quite obvious heh
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#683 [07:48] <Dshorts> when i try to log into the site, it says that my user name or password is unknown
#684 [07:48] <zen> Dshorts, have you migrated your account to a mojang account at any point?
#685 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Dshorts: What does it say when you put your email address in at http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#686 [07:49] <Dshorts> No, made my account and purchased the game about a month or two ago and havent logged onto the site since
#687 [07:51] <Dshorts> It says :Success! An e-mail has been dispatched and should make its way to your inbox momentarily.
#688 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Good. When the email arrives, use the username that it sends to you, on this page http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#689 [07:53] <Dshorts> ok, i did that and it says the samething about an email being sent
#690 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
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#694 [07:57] <Dshorts> df
#695 [07:57] <DiskDaemon> I agree, dwarf fortress is well worth mentioning
#696 [07:58] <Calinou> lol, I was about to say "dwarf fortress"
#697 [07:58] <Dshorts> i goi got i got the email and changed my password to something extremely simple and it still says: Oops, unknown username or password.
#698 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> great minds, 'n all that :)
#699 [07:58] <Dshorts> sdkfjslshahaha that was an accedent haha
#700 [07:59] <Dshorts> haha whoops
#701 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> Where is that, when logging in to the web site?
#702 [07:59] <Dshorts> yes
#703 [07:59] <Dshorts> i can log into the game just fine but the website wont let me
#704 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> Wow, that is odd then
#705 [08:00] <Dshorts> yeah, im in a pickle
#706 [08:00] <Dshorts> and i cant find a number or anything to call
#707 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> As a blind hope, does verifying your email address help in any way? http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#708 [08:02] <zen> Mojang doesn't have the staff to have a support phoneline if all else fails we can give you the link to the support email page but the response time will be really poor
#709 [08:02] <Dshorts> it says: Your email has already been verified.
#710 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> yep, I thought that wasn't likely to help much
#711 [08:03] <Dshorts> someone told me you could make your guy look like Mario and i wanted to try it but they said i have to log into the site and i just wanted to try it out.
#712 [08:05] <Calinou> yes, you can change your player skin if you bought the game
#713 [08:06] <Dshorts> i did, which makes me even sadder that i cant log on :(
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#715 [08:08] <Dshorts> can someone possibly send me the support emal so i can talk to them
#716 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> How do you like a 2.5 to 3 month delay between emails?
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#718 [08:09] <Dshorts> waaaaaaaaah O.O
#719 [08:10] <Calinou> emails sent on may 20th 2012 are getting answers today
#720 [08:12] <Dshorts> i dont understand. If millions of people are paying them $30 to play how do they not have the man power to answer faster? Im not trying to be rude or anything im just sooo confused and frustrated at the moment
#721 [08:12] <tc> just bought an imac running mountain lion. loged in to my minecraft account and downloaded minecraft but imac says it is a damaged file and will not install/run...help!
#722 [08:14] <Boreeas> Dshorts: They are actually catching up on the backlog now
#723 [08:15] <Dshorts> are any of you guys experiencing what i am?
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#725 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> Boreeas: They are? Last I heard, they were still making arrangements for some tempt
#726 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> *temps
#727 [08:17] <Boreeas> Marc mentioned that they are making progress a couple of weeks ago
#728 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> The update from 4 days ago says that they're 2.5 months behind. They were 2 months behind earlier on, so that's doesn't seem to be an improvement
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#731 [08:32] <Dshorts> i think im just going to try with the email if anyone has it
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#733 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> Dshorts: That's in the help.mojang.com article that you read earlier
#734 [08:41] <Dshorts> ok thanks everyone for all your time and patience i really appreciate it
#735 [08:41] <Dshorts> ok thanks everyone for all your time and patience i really appreciate it
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#737 [08:46] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#738 [08:46] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes just getting people to RTFA is quite a job in itself :)
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#740 [08:50] <toto> hello, my cant run the download of mc. the info is that the instal-exe is broken and can only switch to the bin
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#742 [08:55] <Calinou> toto, O_o
#743 [08:55] <Calinou> windows I presume?
#744 [08:55] <Calinou> what version?
#745 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> Mac I presume.
#746 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> No I'd be wrong, the install-exe seems to imply a pc
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#750 [09:05] <MorphShuffle> Who would I go to as I want to talk about using minecraft footage in my youtube account to freely promote the game but receive ad revenue?
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#752 [09:07] <Conner> how do you fix the bad video card bug?
#753 [09:07] <zen> Conner, what is the game telling you?
#754 [09:08] <MorphShuffle> nobody know?
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#756 [09:08] <zen> MorphShuffle, tbh does minecraft need any extra publicity? ofcourse you can tweet one of the devs
#757 [09:08] <MorphShuffle> any publicity is good publicity ;)
#758 [09:08] <MorphShuffle> cheers man :)
#759 [09:08] <Conner> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 06/08/12 14:08 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.1 - Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-
#760 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> Conner pastebin
#761 [09:09] <Necrodoom> www,pastie.org
#762 [09:09] <VoxelHead> Conner: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#768 [09:19] <henrikse55> what irc shul i join if i need help with a mod?
#769 [09:20] <NinjaKirby> I think #Risucraft is the modding channel
#770 [09:21] <henrikse55> ok i will try to ask in there
#771 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: sorry, that pm might be lost in god knows which other channel that I've had open
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#773 [09:37] <toto> sorry for beeing away. mac mountain lion
#774 [09:38] <Calinou> disable gatekeeper
#775 [09:39] <toto> there are no way to run the exe because it is broken. no gatekeeper info
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#778 [09:43] <toto> @calinou..thx it works
#779 [09:43] <fireball26> Minecraft won't let me have mods in a minecraft.jar folder. Minecraft won't open at all and then when I try to update it, it says fatal error in minecraft.jar :/
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#781 [09:48] <fireball26> plus it won't let me have anymore custom packs besides skyblocks2.1 :(
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#783 [09:57] <fireball26> Help anyone?
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#785 [09:58] <Wercl> Question: Ran a server a few months back, tried to start it up again today, can't figure out why it's not working.
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#787 [09:59] <fireball26> Minecraft won't let me have mods in a minecraft.jar folder. Minecraft won't open at all and then when I try to update it, it says fatal error in minecraft.jar :/
#788 [09:59] <mrmanitoba> my mine craft will not load the map when i log into it, i get a blank map but all the animlas and monsters are there, occasionaly a small square of land will load
#789 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#790 [10:00] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#791 [10:00] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#794 [10:04] <RobinJ> people can't see my minecraft server outside the local network, and the port is forwarded on tcp and udp
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#798 [10:17] <NinjaKirby> RobinJ, it's the default port number in server.properties? And it's definitely your Public IP you are handing them to direct connect to?
#799 [10:17] <Wercl> I still need help troubleshooting my server issue. The error I get when attempt to connect is "end of stream"
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#801 [10:17] <RobinJ> NinjaKirby; yes, and it seems that none of my forwarded ports work.... so it's probably a crappy router which requires you to set a dozen options to perform a simple action
#802 [10:18] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, got a static IP address set for your MC Server and stuff?
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#804 [10:18] <RobinJ> i don't have a static ip
#805 [10:19] <Joseph1066> hi I was wondering if you could help me with MIneTV?
#806 [10:19] <NinjaKirby> You could set Static IP's for the LAN machines, including the Minecraft Server
#807 [10:20] <NinjaKirby> To ensure the Router is always directing traffic to the correct machine when it see's it coming from the Internet
#808 [10:20] <NinjaKirby> If it's also dynamic and you reset the Server machine, it's likely to mess up :3
#809 [10:20] <RobinJ> NinjaKirby; i do have a static ip in the local network
#810 [10:20] <RobinJ> 192.168.1.8
#811 [10:21] <NinjaKirby> Ah, nice, well, a bit bizarre then, heh. The only other thing I'd look at is Firewall software.
#812 [10:21] <NinjaKirby> And my cat is directly in my IRC luiine of sight, amazing.
#813 [10:21] <Joseph1066> what type of cat?
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#815 [10:22] <NinjaKirby> lol, type of cat? I have no idea :P
#816 [10:22] <RobinJ> router firewall is disabled
#817 [10:22] <Joseph1066> tabby, calico?
#818 [10:22] <RobinJ> and don't have one on my system
#819 [10:22] <disgustipated> could try setting the dmz to that ip to rule out something with the router
#820 [10:22] <Joseph1066> troll!:)
#821 [10:22] <RobinJ> ?
#822 [10:22] <disgustipated> theres no dmz setting on your router?
#823 [10:22] <RobinJ> dmz?
#824 [10:23] <Joseph1066> ninjakirby is a troll! :)
#825 [10:23] <Joseph1066> but a helpful one
#826 [10:23] <disgustipated> stands for demilitarized zone, it basically forwards everything not specifically forwarded to the ip you tell it to
#827 [10:24] <disgustipated> if you set it to the ip your trying to forward to and youre still not getting the server theres something else most likely blocking it
#828 [10:24] <NinjaKirby> Do you know the definition of Troll Joseph? -_-
#829 [10:24] <RobinJ> disgustipated; how?
#830 [10:24] <Joseph1066> anyone know how to craft trip wires in 1.3.1? Ah, no...yes...no...
#831 [10:25] <NinjaKirby> Disgustipated: I won't lie, I didn't know that was DMZ's purpose, enlightening
#832 [10:25] <DiskDaemon> The wiki will know
#833 [10:25] <disgustipated> usually its just a spot where you specify the ip
#834 [10:25] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tripwire_Hook
#835 [10:25] <Joseph1066> tfor tripwires?
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#837 [10:25] <Wercl> Am I doing something wrong in asking my question, or is this a bad time or day to find a volunteer?
#838 [10:25] <Joseph1066> thx!
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#840 [10:26] <alhadhrami> Hello.
#841 [10:26] <alhadhrami> I need some help please.
#842 [10:26] <RobinJ> found it
#843 [10:27] <alhadhrami> Is there anyone who can help me, please?
#844 [10:27] <disgustipated> yeah usually you dont want to set it like that pointed to a server as it points EVERYTHING at it lol
#845 [10:27] <RobinJ> disgustipated; doesn't look very safe, but i could kiss you xd
#846 [10:27] <disgustipated> opens her up to the internets
#847 [10:27] <disgustipated> so it worked?
#848 [10:27] <disgustipated> i usually just use it for honeypots and testing to see where a problem lies
#849 [10:28] <disgustipated> but yeah if that worked then theres soemthing else that needs adjusted to your forwards. i would definately not leave it like that
#850 [10:28] <Joseph1066> thanks guys! See ya!
#851 [10:29] <disgustipated> unless its just a box you have serving only minecraft
#852 [10:32] <NinjaKirby> I have a British Bombay cat; although Joseph has left, I now know what type he his.
#853 [10:32] <disgustipated> lol
#854 [10:33] <NinjaKirby> :3 We've not had him that long, always used to have dogs in the family tbh.
#855 [10:33] <NinjaKirby> All of which were German Shepherds.
#856 [10:36] <Wercl> I am still in need of assistance with my previously mentioned server issues.
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#858 [10:38] <NinjaKirby> I haven't got a clue how to solve "End of stream" errors, so I won't be able to step up.
#859 [10:44] <Wercl> ):
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#861 [10:49] <kieran> Hi
#862 [10:50] <kieran> I have got the demo for Minecraft but when I load it it freezes on "Done Loading"
#863 [10:50] <kieran> Please advise?
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#866 [10:52] <kieran> I have got the demo for Minecraft but when I load it it freezes on "Done Loading"
#867 [10:52] <kieran> help?
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#869 [10:53] <kieran> I have got the demo for Minecraft but when I load it, it freezes on "Done Loading". Please advise?
#870 [10:57] <tyteen4a03> Wikipedia was down, spent an entire hour spamming a (helpful) Wikipedia is down message
#871 [10:57] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#873 [10:59] <kieran> I have got the demo for Minecraft but when I load it, it freezes on "Done Loading". Please advise?
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#875 [11:01] <kieran> Can anyone help?
#876 [11:02] <kieran> I have got the demo for Minecraft but when I load it, it freezes on "Done Loading". Please advise?
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#885 [11:18] <Guest> hi i have some problem with hamachi and i look for other can somebody help me ?
#886 [11:18] <Natherul> Hey! is there any way to "export" a singleplayer world to the server? asking since turning on lan does not seem to work with hamachi....
#887 [11:20] <NinjaKirby> Natherul, I believe you can still just copy your World save from the .minecraft/saves folder, into the position of a Server World, and it'll load the map
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#891 [11:21] <Natherul> NinjaKirby: thanks, will try it :P
#892 [11:22] <NinjaKirby> :) It's what I do, the formats the same
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#894 [11:26] <Natherul> NinjaKirby: where does the save files go then? i know where it is from the client, but where shall the files end up for the server to find em?
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#897 [11:36] <NinjaKirby> Ah, sorry natherul, went afk, getting on okay?
#898 [11:37] <NinjaKirby> When the servers first launched it creates a Map default named "World" I believe, so you can either rename the client save folder to the same thing, or adjust the server.properties
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#904 [11:45] <Zyff> hi
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#910 [12:01] <Wercl> Has anyone logged in here yet who can assist with server issues?
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#914 [12:11] <szdavid24> Hi, I have problems with logging in to minecraft.. it works only @ minecraft.net but not in the launcher. Eset smart security, windows firewall and microsoft security essentials have the right configuration i think
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#916 [12:12] <szdavid24> so what shall i do?
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#918 [12:13] <NinjaKirby> Disabled them all to confirm? Also, I believe multiple software firewalls is unsuggested
#919 [12:13] <NinjaKirby> Unsuggested? Not recommend, I mean
#920 [12:13] <NinjaKirby> ffs, recommended
#921 [12:13] <szdavid24> i tried to disable all of them
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#924 [12:14] <NinjaKirby> Do you get an error come up when logging in with the executable?
#925 [12:14] <szdavid24> even the virus defender not just the firewall
#926 [12:14] <recarnia> it wont let my try minecraft
#927 [12:14] <szdavid24> yea, with magiclauncher only! here's the link in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/V84GXw0P
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#929 [12:15] <NinjaKirby> MagicLauncher? I don't think we usually support alternate launchers in here, but aight
#930 [12:15] <szdavid24> i know!
#931 [12:15] <szdavid24> but, i can see the log only with magiclauncher!
#932 [12:15] <NinjaKirby> Ah I see, fair enough
#933 [12:15] <szdavid24> the normal minecraft launcher doesn't works either
#934 [12:16] <recarnia> i try to play the demo and it says done loading but the loading bar doesnt even get all the way to the end, and the game wont launch
#935 [12:16] <szdavid24> of course if you tell me how can i give you the error log from normal minecraft i will give that to you
#936 [12:16] <NinjaKirby> szdavid24: Is this only since upgrading to v1.3.1?
#937 [12:16] <Calinou> you need to buy the game to play the demo, which also gives you access to the full game
#938 [12:16] <Calinou> it makes the demo basically useless
#939 [12:16] <Calinou> :/ this will probably be fixed in the future
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#941 [12:16] <szdavid24> Ninja: no it started at 1.2.5
#942 [12:16] <NinjaKirby> lol calinou, amazing
#943 [12:17] <szdavid24> about one and a half week ago
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#946 [12:17] <szdavid24> i tried to delete the .minecraft folder but nothing has changed
#947 [12:18] <NinjaKirby> "unable to find valid certification path to requested target", I'm not at all familiar with this problem, but my limited knowledge leads me to think the Environment Variable may not be present? Anyone is welcome to correct me though
#948 [12:18] <NinjaKirby> "unable to find valid certification path to requested target", I'm not at all familiar with this problem, but my limited knowledge leads me to think the Environment Variable may not be present? Anyone is welcome to correct me though
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#950 [12:19] <NinjaKirby> Afk a moment
#951 [12:19] <szdavid24> Ninja: i'm reallly can't code in Java so i dont know the problem though
#952 [12:19] <szdavid24> k
#953 [12:20] <NinjaKirby> And back, cats bugging me
#954 [12:20] <szdavid24> :D
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#957 [12:21] <computerproblem> im trying to run a multiplayer server for me and my friend. it was working b4 but now when i try to play it says communication error. idk what to do o.o
#958 [12:21] <szdavid24> so, what does your enviroment variable sentence mean? and what can i do to avoid this error?
#959 [12:21] <NinjaKirby> I'm probably wrong tbh, unfortunately the smarter helpers aren't here atm. But in the System Properties -> Environment Variables, it may have lost the Java path entry.
#960 [12:22] <szdavid24> :s
#961 [12:22] <szdavid24> computerproblem: try disabling your virus defender
#962 [12:22] <szdavid24> *firewall
#963 [12:22] <NinjaKirby> No idea why that would happen though, tbh.
#964 [12:22] <szdavid24> well me and my friend dont know the solution either.. btw we know a lot in programming but not in java ...
#965 [12:23] <szdavid24> it started to appear after i installed eset smart security, but i checked and nothing's blocking java.exe or javaw.exe's internet traffic
#966 [12:24] <szdavid24> maybe i'll try to reinstall eset and delete user files
#967 [12:24] <NinjaKirby> Huh, I run ESET 4 for ages, recently upgraded to v5, and I'm not having trouble, but I have tweaked a few settings away from defaults.
#968 [12:25] <NinjaKirby> I run it in "interactive mode" (or similarly named), so I can act upon firewall activity and not let it decide.
#969 [12:25] <szdavid24> im running it in learning mode
#970 [12:25] <szdavid24> i think they are the same
#971 [12:25] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, as long as you've set up a Rule to allow java.exe, javaw.exe and minecraft.exe to communicate, I guess it should be cool
#972 [12:26] <NinjaKirby> (I think it's just those 3 processes...)
#973 [12:26] <szdavid24> i think that too, and the rules are set up as you said
#974 [12:26] <ryan_> i just bought minecraft and when i go to play the game it gives me two choiceis update now or later when i hit update it will stop after like a 1/8 of the way though and if i hit update later it will say done loading but it frezes with 1/8 left to load. i have tried deleteing it re installing it, deleteing the bin folder, and my java is up to date. help me plzzzzzzzzzzzz
#975 [12:27] <szdavid24> ryan_: install video card driver!
#976 [12:27] <ryan_> how and where
#977 [12:28] <szdavid24> what operating system do you use?
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#979 [12:28] <ryan_> weindows 7
#980 [12:28] <teetor> Hello
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#982 [12:29] <szdavid24> ok, then go to start->devices and printers-> right click on a free space then device manager
#983 [12:29] <NinjaKirby> szdavid24: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1266137-solved-can-not-log-in-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/ Seems quite relevant, although not a great solution
#984 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> szdavid24: that is not the correct solution
#985 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> ryan_ forceupdate
#986 [12:29] <VoxelHead> ryan_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#987 [12:29] <VoxelHead> ryan_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#988 [12:29] <szdavid24> thanks i'll change that
#989 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: that is not revelant to this case
#990 [12:29] <teetor> It depends on what the issue is with login
#991 [12:30] <NinjaKirby> tyteen4103: I was referring to the problem sazdavid was experiencing, not someone else :P
#992 [12:30] <teetor> .players
#993 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: I see
#994 [12:30] <szdavid24> i'll be here so if i'll have trouble i'll be able to ask! - ninja
#995 [12:30] <teetor> Ah
#996 [12:30] <ryan_> i have tried that still the same thing
#997 [12:30] <teetor> ok
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#999 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> ryan_: has it happened before?
#1000 [12:30] <NinjaKirby> szdavid24: Aight
#1001 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> szdavid24 error/cantconnect
#1002 [12:30] <VoxelHead> szdavid24: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1003 [12:30] <VoxelHead> szdavid24: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#1004 [12:31] <ryan_> no has not worked before
#1005 [12:31] <teetor> Well what worked for me when I had that issue was to just delete my .minecraft folder and just redownload the game
#1006 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> ryan_ win/dxdiag/bat
#1007 [12:31] <VoxelHead> ryan_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1008 [12:31] <VoxelHead> ryan_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1009 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> Please follow the directions posted by VoxelHead
#1010 [12:32] <teetor> ah ye' olden DxDiag
#1011 [12:32] <ryan_> k thanks
#1012 [12:32] <szdavid24> fuck eset!!!!!
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#1014 [12:32] <teetor> lol
#1015 [12:32] <NinjaKirby> Erm, good lord
#1016 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> lol
#1017 [12:33] <NinjaKirby> ESET is the best security solution I've ever used.
#1018 [12:33] <teetor> You use it as well?
#1019 [12:33] <NinjaKirby> Affirmative
#1020 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: It's an okay software
#1021 [12:34] <NinjaKirby> tyteen4a03: I'm going to destroy you
#1022 [12:34] <NinjaKirby> I'm kidding :P
#1023 [12:34] <teetor> Its alright, as a software
#1024 [12:34] <teetor> It played hell with my minecraft at first though
#1025 [12:34] <computerproblem> what can i do to stop my server from having the communication error :(
#1026 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: Can you elaborate?
#1027 [12:35] <teetor> computer is it hosted on your computer or on a online host
#1028 [12:35] <teetor> oh sorry tyteen
#1029 [12:35] <computerproblem> my computer.
#1030 [12:35] <teetor> Are you sure it is portforwarded correctly?
#1031 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: No, what is the error?
#1032 [12:35] <computerproblem> yep
#1033 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> teetor: if he can receive Communication Errors, it wouldn't be his portforwarding
#1034 [12:35] <teetor> true
#1035 [12:35] <computerproblem> tyteen it was working b4 now it just gives me communication error.
#1036 [12:36] <teetor> sorry @tyteen4a03
#1037 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: Can I have the exact error?
#1038 [12:36] <computerproblem> yes ill try it again
#1039 [12:36] <computerproblem> Connection Lost End of Stream then it will show Communication error where i list my server
#1040 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: are you on 1.3?
#1041 [12:37] <computerproblem> 1.3.1 ya
#1042 [12:38] <computerproblem> and it will show up online
#1043 [12:38] <computerproblem> after i refresh
#1044 [12:38] <computerproblem> like once or twice
#1045 [12:38] <computerproblem> but still the same problem
#1046 [12:38] <teetor> computerproblem can you /msg me the ip so i can see if its just your computer having issues
#1047 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> teetor: no need
#1048 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: you need to upgrade your server to 1.3
#1049 [12:38] <computerproblem> my friend already tried to get on
#1050 [12:38] <computerproblem> he cant either
#1051 [12:38] <teetor> ah ok
#1052 [12:39] <computerproblem> how do i do that....?
#1053 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> !client
#1054 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#1055 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> !server
#1056 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> computerproblem: Use the link above ^
#1057 [12:39] <teetor> tyteen one question, i forgot the ! command to test a server ip, can you remind me?
#1058 [12:40] <Wercl> I was having issues with my old server files so I deleted them and downloaded the Minecraft_server.exe, that server works, but it's not saving it's information when I turn it off
#1059 [12:40] <Wercl> Halp
#1060 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> teetor: !check IP
#1061 [12:40] <teetor> Can you elaborate how you upgraded?
#1062 [12:40] <teetor> ok ty @tyteen
#1063 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Wercl: What is not saving?
#1064 [12:40] <teetor> !check tekkit.deserver.tk
#1065 [12:41] <teetor> hmmm
#1066 [12:41] <Wercl> The map
#1067 [12:41] <teetor> brb
#1068 [12:41] <teetor> !check deserver.tk
#1069 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Wercl: Try pressing Ctrl+C to stop it, not the X button
#1070 [12:41] <teetor> welcome back gerald
#1071 [12:42] <computerproblem> tyteen
#1072 [12:42] <computerproblem> <3 works.
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#1074 [12:42] <geraldbrent> Thanks.
#1075 [12:42] <teetor> !check redspectr.envioushost.com
#1076 [12:42] <teetor> hmm
#1077 [12:42] <teetor> thats weird
#1078 [12:43] <teetor> tyteen, can you try to connect to the last IP i !check'd
#1079 [12:43] <teetor> its shows it online, but i cant conenct
#1080 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> teetor: it will show the same thing
#1081 [12:44] <teetor> ..
#1082 [12:45] <teetor> brb then imma go restart it
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#1084 [12:50] <Wercl> My server is still not saving the map, ctrl+C didn't do anything, and now I can't edit blocks
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#1086 [12:53] <NinjaKirby> Server not saving the map? There's a server command and that enables/disables that, for on-the-fly backup purposes I believe.
#1087 [12:53] <NinjaKirby> Mind you, gracefully closing the server should still save it. Ignore me.
#1088 [12:54] <Calinou> NEVER, EVER stop a sever using ctrl+c
#1089 [12:54] <Calinou> use the "stop" console/op command instead
#1090 [12:54] <Calinou> you possibly corrupted your world
#1091 [12:54] <Necrodoom> ctrl+c equals killing server, which means nothing can save
#1092 [12:54] <NinjaKirby> lol, you can issue a stop from the client with /stop?
#1093 [12:55] <Necrodoom> NinjaKirby: yes
#1094 [12:55] <NinjaKirby> Awesome
#1095 [12:55] <Necrodoom> as OP
#1096 [12:55] <NinjaKirby> Naturally ^^
#1097 [12:55] <Calinou> minecraft and java in general isn't Ctrl+C compliant :/
#1098 [12:55] <Calinou> minecraft and java in general isn't Ctrl+C compliant :/
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#1100 [13:02] <Wercl> I really need someone to walk me through whats going on with my server.
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#1102 [13:07] <Blinky_Away> hi
#1103 [13:07] <Blinky_Away> is there no stable craftbukkit version=
#1104 [13:08] <Morrolan> No, there is not.
#1105 [13:08] <Morrolan> It's not that hard to check dl.bukkit.org , is it.
#1106 [13:08] <Boreeas> Or #bukkit
#1107 [13:09] <Blinky> ok
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#1109 [13:11] <Blinky> woot
#1110 [13:11] <Blinky> invoice for 4000
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#1115 [13:29] <xgingy> hey when i go to connect it times out after a while of downloading terrain
#1116 [13:32] <xgingy> ?
#1117 [13:33] <xgingy> ?
#1118 [13:33] <xgingy> ?
#1119 [13:33] <xgingy> ?
#1120 [13:33] <xgingy> ?
#1121 [13:33] <Eddie> !kick xgingy
#1122 [13:33] <Eddie> !!
#1123 [13:33] <Morrolan> xgingy - Does it happen with one server only, or with every one you've tried?
#1124 [13:33] <xgingy> i only play on one server so just one
#1125 [13:34] <xgingy> i havnt tried others
#1126 [13:34] <Morrolan> Try a different one
#1127 [13:34] <Morrolan> If it works on others then you could ask the server's admin to temporarily remove your player.dat file, to see whether that one is the culprit.
#1128 [13:36] <xgingy> okay thank you
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#1130 [13:37] <Wercl> Can someone please help me with my server issues? I had a server from months ago, but I had to delete it and download the new sever file. This one works, but I can't get it to save it's map or allow me to edit blocks.
#1131 [13:37] <Morrolan> The map will be saved periodically, as well as on shutdown.
#1132 [13:38] <Morrolan> As for editing blocks - did you make sure that it's not just spawnprotection?
#1133 [13:38] <Morrolan> e.g. did you op yourself / walk away from spawn
#1134 [13:39] <Wercl> I can't figure out how to do any of the old things I used to do, like op myself. When I ran a server months ago, there where editable files in a folder. This new download does not have that.
#1135 [13:39] <Morrolan> You might want to get familiar with commands issued in the server console. ;)
#1136 [13:40] <Morrolan> Type "help" in the server's console to get a list of commands.
#1137 [13:40] <Wercl> Well those didn't work on my old server so I never bothered.
#1138 [13:40] <Morrolan> One of those is "op <playername>"
#1139 [13:40] <Morrolan> !server
#1140 [13:41] <Morrolan> (Don't mind AuBot's link, wanted to download it myself)
#1141 [13:41] <Wercl> Aaah
#1142 [13:41] <Wercl> Okay so, I opped myself and now I can edit blocks, let me check the map saving thing
#1143 [13:41] <Morrolan> Also, if your server doesn't generate ops.txt etc, then something is messed up with folder permissions.
#1144 [13:42] <Morrolan> Since it still generates those for me.
#1145 [13:42] <Morrolan> I'll go have dinner now, but I'll be back later (or others will be here) if you still need help.
#1146 [13:42] <Wercl> Enjoy
#1147 [13:42] <oldtopman> Wercl: Hey :)
#1148 [13:42] <Wercl> Hello oldtopman
#1149 [13:43] <oldtopman> For non-ops to move blocks, they have to be far away from where they spawned. Always a good idea to make yourself an op though :o
#1150 [13:43] <Wercl> What if I want non-ops to be able to edit the blocks at the spawn anyway?
#1151 [13:44] <oldtopman> There's no way to do that.
#1152 [13:45] <Wercl> So, it's not to do with the white-list then?
#1153 [13:45] <oldtopman> The whitelist prevents players from joining the server.
#1154 [13:46] <oldtopman> Well, not quite like that
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#1156 [13:46] <Wercl> Whitelist allows players to edit blocks, thats how it was in the past anyway
#1157 [13:46] <xgingy> hi again my friend deleted my .dat and when i joined i was falling through the void and couldnt do anything
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#1159 [13:47] <oldtopman> Wercl: You're talking about mincraft, not minecraft classic, right?
#1160 [13:47] <oldtopman> xgingy: Loading the world may take a minute, try it again and wait a while.
#1161 [13:48] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> yes i am having problems booting the game up itself.
#1162 [13:48] <xgingy> try joining and then jus wait?
#1163 [13:48] <oldtopman> xgingy: Exactly that.
#1164 [13:48] <oldtopman> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: Details?
#1165 [13:48] <Wercl> Classic is just creative mode right? Unlimited blocks?
#1166 [13:48] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> what do you mean details, the one i got after purchase
#1167 [13:49] <oldtopman> Wercl: Classic mode is free, and hasn't been updated in years. Creative mode is something else entirely.
#1168 [13:49] <oldtopman> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: What are you doing, what is the expected result?
#1169 [13:49] <Wercl> Well this is the not free version
#1170 [13:50] <oldtopman> Wercl: Okay, here's what a whitelist does then. If the whitelist is enabled, only players that are whitelisted can join. When the whitelist is disabled, anybody can join except for the people that are banned.
#1171 [13:50] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> basically i am updating minecraft and will stop and say failed to launch.
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#1173 [13:52] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> hello
#1174 [13:52] <oldtopman> ??> xXFLAMEZ14Xx win/reinst/bat
#1175 [13:52] <VoxelHead> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1176 [13:52] <VoxelHead> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1177 [13:54] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> its just taking me yo a blank page
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#1179 [13:55] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> hello i am problems updating minecraft and will say failed to launch half way through download
#1180 [13:56] <oldtopman> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: There should be a download window that pops up.
#1181 [13:57] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> i press login and says would you like to download now i press yes loads for abit and fails to launch, i am new to minecraft as only got it yesterday
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#1183 [13:58] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> im having problems downloading updates it says fail to launch.
#1184 [13:59] <oldtopman> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: Why are you rejoining?
#1185 [13:59] <oldtopman> Please stop, you're in the same help channel.
#1186 [13:59] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> internet restarted
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#1188 [14:00] <oldtopman> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: ooookay. Did you run the script?
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#1190 [14:00] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> whats a script im new to MC and sont know what im doing
#1191 [14:01] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> dont#
#1192 [14:02] <Wercl> Whats a safe way to get my server to reload a brand new map?
#1193 [14:03] <xXFLAMEZ14Xx> please reply
#1194 [14:03] <Boreeas> The safe way is to shut down the server, replace the maps, and then restart
#1195 [14:03] <Boreeas> ??> xXFLAMEZ14Xx win/reinst/bat
#1196 [14:03] <VoxelHead> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1197 [14:03] <VoxelHead> xXFLAMEZ14Xx: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#1199 [14:07] <noahcrawford> Ok, so my computer was stolen from me for 3 months, and I finally got it back. There is no harm done to it. I am an extreme minecraft player, and have been really excited for 1.3 to come out. Now, before my computer was stolen I THINK I might have had some problems opening up my minecraft program. I think. I'm not sure, because I think I had fixed my problem.
#1200 [14:07] <noahcrawford> But just now when I tried to open my minecraft, I couldn't get it to update, which was just like the problem I had before.
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#1202 [14:08] <noahcrawford> It asks me if I want to update, I obviously select 'Yes', but it can never load.
#1203 [14:09] <noahcrawford> It gets stuck at a random percentage while unloading the mincraft.jar file, or gets stuck at 0% while unloading the lwjgl.jar file.
#1204 [14:10] <noahcrawford> I am pretty sure this is the same problem I had before, but I am lost on what to do. Any help please?
#1205 [14:12] <noahcrawford> I have a paper to write anyway, so I will keep this window open and check back periodically to see if any of you guys come back. Thanks.
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#1208 [14:20] <oldtopman> ??> noahcrawford win/reinst/bat
#1209 [14:20] <VoxelHead> noahcrawford: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1210 [14:20] <VoxelHead> noahcrawford: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#1212 [14:21] <oldtopman> noahcrawford: If that doesn't work, try disabling your security software temporarily.
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#1214 [14:22] <JoshtheRoo> I can't get past the updating screen.
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#1220 [14:32] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman ok i will try the download
#1221 [14:33] <Tom1098_> Could someone please tell me where I can get a fresh 1.2.5 .minecraft folder LEGALY?
#1222 [14:33] <Tom1098_> Legally*
#1223 [14:33] <oldtopman> Tom1098_: You can try MCNostalgia, that's it.
#1224 [14:33] <oldtopman> JoshtheRoo: Try temporarily disabling your AV
#1225 [14:33] <Tom1098_> Someone told me I could download it from Mojang
#1226 [14:39] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman Hey, still got a few problems. It loaded more this time, but got stuck on windows_natives.jar.lzma at 98%
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#1228 [14:39] <oldtopman> Tom1098_: They lied.
#1229 [14:39] <oldtopman> noahcrawford: Try running the script a few more times? This is usually an antivirus issue though.
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#1232 [14:42] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman Ah. ok, one sec.
#1233 [14:44] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman Hmm, it's doing even worse this time.
#1234 [14:44] <oldtopman> That's odd.
#1235 [14:44] <oldtopman> Perhaps you might try deleting your whole .minecraft folder/
#1236 [14:44] <noahcrawford> How would I get it back?
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#1238 [14:46] <Doogel> My Minecraft keeps freaking crashing after 2.5 mins of playing!
#1239 [14:46] <oldtopman> ??> noahcrawford .minecraft
#1240 [14:46] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman I can try that, but I would need to know how I could get my folder back, or get a new, etc.
#1241 [14:46] <oldtopman> Ah
#1242 [14:47] <oldtopman> noahcrawford: It automatically generates a new one.
#1243 [14:47] <oldtopman> Be aware that you'll lose your saves.
#1244 [14:47] <noahcrawford> Oooooo....Not good.
#1245 [14:47] <oldtopman> Also, congratulations on getting it back :D
#1246 [14:47] <oldtopman> Well
#1247 [14:47] <Smanly> You can back up your saves.
#1248 [14:47] <oldtopman> Do you know how to open the .minecraft folder?
#1249 [14:47] <oldtopman> noahcrawford: What Smanly said. Open the folder and delete everything but the saves folder
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#1251 [14:48] <noahcrawford> Yeah, of course. I have it on my desktop, actually so I can get to it a lot easier
#1252 [14:48] <noahcrawford> oh ok
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#1254 [14:49] <noahcrawford> Are there any other risks to deleting it all (other than saves)?
#1255 [14:49] <papa> test
#1256 [14:49] <Doogel> Hello?
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#1258 [14:49] <oldtopman> You'll lose your mods, but those are out of date anyway
#1259 [14:50] <oldtopman> papa: We can see you.
#1260 [14:50] <noahcrawford> Ah, thats ok, I have spent All-nighters trying to get mods to work. But they can't, probably cause I use a Toshiba.
#1261 [14:50] <oldtopman> Doogel: What do you mean by "freaking crashing"? I'd help you, but I have to go soon.
#1262 [14:51] <Doogel> I'm just mad that it crashes so much. Sorry.
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#1264 [14:53] <Doogel> Why does no one ever answer on these things.
#1265 [14:54] <noahcrawford> @oldtopman Ok, I will try deleting everything (minus saves) in a bit. I am going to work on a paper for english. It's on the Julius Caesar Shakespeare play write. 'can't get more complicated than that, haha. Good book though. Just tough to read. I will try after I have worked on it a bit. Gotten send in my paper on the 9th.
#1266 [14:54] <luzee> Doogel, a crash report will be useful, see this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1267 [14:54] <FLHerne> Doogel: Because 'freaking crashing' isn't enough detail to give a useful reply :P
#1268 [14:55] <Doogel> Do you want the little error message it leaves behind on mah desktop?
#1269 [14:55] <luzee> Doogel, yes, please put it on pastebin.com can copy the url here after you have done
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#1271 [14:56] <Doogel> http://pastebin.com/awvtyv2E
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#1274 [14:58] <binkster> Hey can anyone help me witha chunk error in my world?
#1275 [14:58] <luzee> oldtopman, what do we suggest if a a windows dll fails?
#1276 [14:59] <luzee> binkster, what exactly do you see?
#1277 [14:59] <binkster> well i logged in today to just see an entire chunck missing in my base, i reloaded and forced an update but it is still there
#1278 [15:00] <luzee> hmmm odd, it should have reloaded fine when you restarted minecraft :/
#1279 [15:00] <binkster> that's what i though, would you like to see a picture?
#1280 [15:00] <binkster> thought*
#1281 [15:00] <luzee> Hmm yeah what happens when you walk into the problem area?
#1282 [15:01] <binkster> nothing, it is not solid at all, i can build in it and do whatever
#1283 [15:01] <luzee> binkster, would you fall down if you jumped off the edge? or do you mean that the chunk just regenerated?
#1284 [15:02] <luzee> a picture would be useful
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#1286 [15:02] <noahcrawford> Agh! I tried loading minecraft again at it fully loaded this time. But EVERYTHING is gone! I didn't even delete my .minecraft folder yet!
#1287 [15:02] <binkster> here's the picture luzee, http://i.imgur.com/nvabe.png
#1288 [15:02] <Doogel> I gave a pastebin link.
#1289 [15:02] <luzee> Doogel, i saw, and the thing thats failing i can't understand why
#1290 [15:03] <Doogel> ???
#1291 [15:03] <luzee> noahcrawford, :/ that's unfortunate
#1292 [15:03] <luzee> binkster, store all your items and then jump into the whole, tell me what happens
#1293 [15:04] <binkster> i simply fall to the bottom of it, nothing bad happens at all
#1294 [15:04] <binkster> i can place blocks and walk around
#1295 [15:05] <luzee> damn :/
#1296 [15:05] <luzee> is it a single player world?
#1297 [15:05] <Doogel> Waht do you mean?
#1298 [15:05] <binkster> was that to me?
#1299 [15:05] <papa> i am trying to start minecraft for my grandson on a 32bit windows 7 professional. it required 32bit java which installed ok. after login the game fails to load. i got an error log out of java and it indicates a failure outside of java virtual machine in native code. some help to resolve would be appreciated
#1300 [15:05] <noahcrawford> @luzee I checked my folder, and it says all my saves are still there, but when I play there's nothing in single or multiplayer ;(
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#1302 [15:06] <binkster> yeah it is single player
#1303 [15:06] <Cael> im guessing the server that holds player skins is down?
#1304 [15:06] <luzee> papa, can you put the error log onto pastebin, press submit and copy the link you get in the addressbar to here
#1305 [15:06] <luzee> cael not that i am aware let me log in
#1306 [15:07] <papa> k
#1307 [15:07] <Cael> i tried relogging 3 times and i come up as a steve
#1308 [15:07] <Doogel> luzee: Can it be fixed?
#1309 [15:07] <binkster> hey grey vulpine are you there?
#1310 [15:07] <luzee> Doogel, i'm not to sure, you might want to stick arround to see if anyone else knows what might be going wrong
#1311 [15:08] <binkster> GreyVulpine
#1312 [15:08] <Doogel> ok...
#1313 [15:08] <noahcrawford> I know greyvulpine.
#1314 [15:08] <binkster> so do i, i wish he would help out
#1315 [15:08] <luzee> Cael, hmm my skin loaded fine, maybe theres a DNS error between you and the servers
#1316 [15:08] <noahcrawford> Ha, yeah, he has always been very helpful
#1317 [15:09] <luzee> Guys please stop pinging him, he may be busy
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#1319 [15:09] <Smanly> Yeah, minecraft.net is messed up, luzee.
#1320 [15:09] <Cael> is there a spefic server to try a tracerouter to see if there is a prob?
#1321 [15:09] <noahcrawford> @luzee I checked my .minecraft folder, and it says all my saves are still there, but when I play there's nothing in single or multiplayer. Any help, please?
#1322 [15:09] <luzee> noahcrawford, are you using a custom launcher?
#1323 [15:10] <Doogel> So my minecraft my be permanently broken.
#1324 [15:10] <noahcrawford> @luzee No, i'm using normal minecraft
#1325 [15:10] <luzee> Doogel, at the moment i am unsure
#1326 [15:10] <Confused> I tried downloading Minecraft for my son. The first time it seemed to glitch and even though I removed it, it left a white blank square in the upper left hand corner of my desktop. Everytime the desktop refreshes, it attempts to run minecraft and I can't get rid of this square or the problems it's causing. Any help would be awesome
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#1328 [15:10] <luzee> noahcrawford, thats odd they should be there
#1329 [15:10] <binkster> I can concur that minecraft.net is messed up right now
#1330 [15:11] <binkster> that may be the reason for most of your guy's problems
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#1332 [15:11] <luzee> help.mojang.com reports all is running smooth :/
#1333 [15:11] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#1334 [15:11] <binkster> hmmm interesting, I can only play offline at the moment
#1335 [15:11] <Doogel> wow that sucks
#1336 [15:11] <noahcrawford> @luzee What exactly do u mean by 'custom launcher' though?
#1337 [15:11] <binkster> Nevermind it's back up
#1338 [15:11] <Smanly> was just down, luzee.
#1339 [15:11] <Cael> hmm switched off google OpenDNS to my ISP's DNS server to see if my skin loads
#1340 [15:12] <luzee> Smanly, the snooping servers aren't always running
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#1342 [15:12] <Smanly> website is back down.
#1343 [15:12] <Cael> nope still a steve
#1344 [15:12] <luzee> noahcrawford, some people use a custom launcher application to allow them to easily move the minecraft binaries and stuff to make stuff like modding easier
#1345 [15:13] <binkster> Hey luzee, did you figure anything out about what's happening with the chunk in my world
#1346 [15:13] <luzee> :/ was about to reply to confused
#1347 [15:13] <noahcrawford> @luzee I thought so...So is there anything I was supposed to do when i got 1.3? like was there a new download to get or something? there must be something I'm missing
#1348 [15:13] <luzee> binkster, it appears to have completely lost the data for that chunk ><
#1349 [15:14] <luzee> noahcrawford, no, it should have updated fine :/
#1350 [15:14] <binkster> luzee, is there anything i can do to recover that lost data?
#1351 [15:15] <Smanly> Anyone not being helped?
#1352 [15:15] <Doogel> Smanly, I'm not!
#1353 [15:15] <Doogel> lol
#1354 [15:15] <binkster> Smanly, I'm being helped, but was wondering if you can give any suggestions on my problem
#1355 [15:15] <luzee> binkster, umm, well the only way you can get stuff there is using a program to forcible rebuild the chunk, but anything you had in there can't be recovered :/
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#1357 [15:16] <skyboy> !login
#1358 [15:16] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/ :D
#1359 [15:16] <luzee> Smanly, if you can tell me why ntdll.dll is failing with Doogel it would be nice
#1360 [15:16] <luzee> Smanly, help.mojang.com also has a status checker now
#1361 [15:17] <Smanly> Yeah, but its broken a lot of the time.
#1362 [15:17] <noahcrawford> @luzee aghh...Hm, should I just, I don't know, maybe get rid of my .minecraft folder or redownload mincraft or something?
#1363 [15:17] <Smanly> Its just grey for me.
#1364 [15:17] <Elystus> Smanly: same
#1365 [15:17] <Smanly> What was his pastebin?
#1366 [15:17] <luzee> noahcrawford, does the game load?
#1367 [15:18] <luzee> http://pastebin.com/awvtyv2E Smanly
#1368 [15:18] <Smanly> thanks.
#1369 [15:19] <binkster> Hey Smanly can you help me?
#1370 [15:19] <noahcrawford> @luzee It finally has loaded but nothing is there anymore
#1371 [15:19] <Elystus> That has do do with graphics drivers most of the time
#1372 [15:20] <Smanly> Im looking into it, binkster.
#1373 [15:20] <binkster> Thank you
#1374 [15:20] <Elystus> ??> binkster win/dxdiag
#1375 [15:20] <VoxelHead> binkster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1376 [15:20] <VoxelHead> binkster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1377 [15:20] <luzee> noahcrawford, I'm not sure why the files aren't loading, :/
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#1379 [15:21] <Cisna> Hi :D
#1380 [15:21] <binkster> ok will do, thank you
#1381 [15:21] <Doogel> Any prgress on my problem?
#1382 [15:21] <Smanly> What was yours, Doogel?
#1383 [15:21] <luzee> Elystus, you got the wrong person to get a dxdiag, the pastebin was Doogel's
#1384 [15:21] <Elystus> I think i might have lol
#1385 [15:21] <Cisna> Anyone knows about Visual Basic?
#1386 [15:21] <Smanly> Oh, wat.
#1387 [15:21] <Smanly> I did the same thing, lol.
#1388 [15:21] <Elystus> binkster: Disreguard what VoxelHead said. I gave that to the wrong person
#1389 [15:22] <Elystus> Cisna: Yes, what do you need?
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#1391 [15:22] <luzee> yeah, binkster has a missing chunk :p
#1392 [15:22] <zzzz> hello everyone
#1393 [15:22] <Smanly> Ok, then what was blink's issue?
#1394 [15:22] <zzzz> is the login server down?
#1395 [15:22] <Elystus> Oh wait, I know V C++ not VB
#1396 [15:22] <Smanly> Hey zzzz.
#1397 [15:22] <luzee> zzzz, yes logins are down
#1398 [15:22] <zzzz> k
#1399 [15:23] <Cisna> I want to create a Command prompt to start Minecraft without a launcher with some settings in the command promotp as dialog, but I'm not able to start Minecraft. I send you my source code via pastebin
#1400 [15:23] <zzzz> eta on when theyll be up?
#1401 [15:23] <Smanly> No idea, zzzz .
#1402 [15:23] <zzzz> cisna, why?
#1403 [15:23] <zzzz> :(
#1404 [15:23] <Doogel> Errr did you see my pastebin?
#1405 [15:23] <Doogel> http://pastebin.com/awvtyv2E
#1406 [15:23] <Smanly> ??>> Doogel.
#1407 [15:23] <Doogel> Yes?
#1408 [15:23] <Smanly> ??>> Doogel win/dxdiag
#1409 [15:23] <Doogel> okeu
#1410 [15:23] <binkster> Hey VoxelHead, her you go: http://pastebin.com/KP6UiyWa
#1411 [15:23] <zzzz> i need to afk at my mob grinder on a server >:( i prmised my friend a lvl 30 enchantment on a diamond pickaxe. fudgesickles (there voxel, happy?)
#1412 [15:24] <Elystus> binkster: I gave the directions to the wrong person.
#1413 [15:24] <Elystus> :P
#1414 [15:24] <Cisna> http://pastebin.com/V2vcqgB2
#1415 [15:24] <noahcrawford> @luzee A long time ago, when i first got minecraft 3 years ago, it never really worked at all. And this person who used to be on this help site named 'Almostroot' who used a program called teamviewer or something to be able to access my computer and help me. Think someone could do that for me?
#1416 [15:24] <Smanly> blinkster, what was your issue?
#1417 [15:24] <zzzz> noah, we can teamviewer, yes
#1418 [15:24] <Cisna> I failed...
#1419 [15:24] <Cisna> Wait please :D
#1420 [15:24] <blink> what was my issue?
#1421 [15:25] <binkster> my bad guys, i wasn't paying attention to the text, you can disregard that pastbin
#1422 [15:25] <Elystus> blink: He pinged the wrong person
#1423 [15:25] <Smanly> Um, oh its binkster, not blinkster.
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#1426 [15:25] <Smanly> XD
#1427 [15:25] <blink> you're a terrible person smanly
#1428 [15:25] <papa> sorry had to learn how.. http://pastebin.com/Ej7AWNRL
#1429 [15:25] <Doogel> http://pastebin.com/wcsMna9x there
#1430 [15:25] <Smanly> I was confused why tab wanst working.
#1431 [15:25] <binkster> thanks smanly, anyway for some reaon i logged in and a chunck was completely missing from my base
#1432 [15:25] <zzzz> thats awkward
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#1434 [15:26] <zzzz> have you tried turning if off and back on again?
#1435 [15:26] <XxFlamingHippoxX> #aethermod
#1436 [15:26] <binkster> me, zzzzz?
#1437 [15:26] <luzee> ??> papa win/dxdiag
#1438 [15:26] <VoxelHead> papa: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1439 [15:26] <VoxelHead> papa: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1440 [15:26] <Smanly> You can start MC, right, Doogel?
#1441 [15:26] <zzzz> i dont know, everyone here with problems
#1442 [15:27] <noahcrawford> @zzzz I don't have teamviewer anymore I think, but i can get it again
#1443 [15:27] <zzzz> it fixes them 99% of the time
#1444 [15:27] <Doogel> Yeah.
#1445 [15:27] <XxFlamingHippoxX> how do you get the aether mod from here
#1446 [15:27] <zzzz> i cant teamviewer, im on a mac
#1447 [15:27] <luzee> XxFlamingHippoxX, use /join #aethermod
#1448 [15:27] <zzzz> but other peopl ehere can
#1449 [15:27] <Smanly> Doogel, when does that error occur?
#1450 [15:27] <luzee> zzzz theres probably a TV app for macs you know
#1451 [15:27] <luzee> theres one for linux
#1452 [15:27] <zzzz> xxflaminghippoxx, this chat isnt for mods
#1453 [15:27] <Doogel> After about 2 mins of playing
#1454 [15:27] <zzzz> luzee, im also lazy and have no idea what i'm doing ;)
#1455 [15:28] <Smanly> Anything in particular happen right before, Doogel ?
#1456 [15:28] <binkster> Hey Smanly, can you help me out please?
#1457 [15:29] <Smanly> Not really, binkster. I guess you map is just corrupted. Is this on SMP or SSP?
#1458 [15:29] <papa> k
#1459 [15:29] <Cisna> http://pastebin.com/T7GrhDHk
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#1461 [15:29] <binkster> Single PLayer Smanly, and i know it is not corrupt because i have dealt with that before.
#1462 [15:29] <noahcrawford> @luzee Ok, i g2g work on my english paper for a bit now, so you or zzzz or someone else could try teamviewer when i get back.
#1463 [15:30] <Smanly> You have delt with missing chunks before?
#1464 [15:30] <Cisna> It say's the file could not be found, but it exists
#1465 [15:30] <noahcrawford> @luzee thanks
#1466 [15:30] <bonney12> Is anyone else having problems logging in?
#1467 [15:30] <binkster> No, just with a world file being corrupt and not being able to load, what is happening now I have never seen before
#1468 [15:30] <Smanly> mc.bet is messed up.
#1469 [15:30] <Smanly> minecraft.net*
#1470 [15:31] <Smanly> Right, well that chunk was somehow corrupted.
#1471 [15:31] <Doogel> Nope.
#1472 [15:31] <binkster> Anyway to fix it?
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#1474 [15:31] <Smanly> Unless you kept back ups, I dont think there is anything you can do.
#1475 [15:31] <Doogel> Well, actually, it laga alot.
#1476 [15:31] <Doogel> lags*
#1477 [15:31] <Smanly> I have never delt with that issue though.
#1478 [15:31] <binkster> I do have a back up, it is a bit of a ways back though
#1479 [15:32] <binkster> Any third party programs you know of that might be able to rebuild the chunk
#1480 [15:32] <Balee> Heya. Is the auth server at it again?
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#1482 [15:32] <Smanly> Yeah, you can use Worldedit to regen the cunk.
#1483 [15:32] <Cisna> Does anyone know what's the problem is?
#1484 [15:32] <Balee> binkster.
#1485 [15:32] <Smanly> yes, Balee.
#1486 [15:32] <binkster> yes Balee?
#1487 [15:32] <ThisDudeRiteHere> Stupid noob question. I have a single player map I've spent soo much time on. Is there any way to integrate the 1.3.1 features into that map?
#1488 [15:32] <Balee> If you want to get a backed up chunk back into the game...
#1489 [15:32] <Smanly> Not exactly, ThisDudeRiteHere.
#1490 [15:33] <Balee> Try copying it into your world's files.
#1491 [15:33] <Smanly> You can explore new land though. That will generate 1.3.1 world/
#1492 [15:33] <binkster> ThisDudeRiteHere, just explore
#1493 [15:33] <Balee> The "regions" folder I believe.
#1494 [15:33] <ThisDudeRiteHere> So any chunks that I've already loaded are gonna stay 1.2.5 or whatever it was
#1495 [15:33] <Balee> With files like r.2.-1.mca
#1496 [15:33] <binkster> Thanks Balee, exactly how do i do that
#1497 [15:33] <Smanly> Yeah.
#1498 [15:33] <ThisDudeRiteHere> But, if I go far away and load new chunks, it'll load 1.3.1 features?
#1499 [15:33] <binkster> Balee, how do i know which chunk is which?
#1500 [15:33] <Balee> Well...
#1501 [15:34] <Balee> Let's get something straight. :)
#1502 [15:34] <papa> ................... http://pastebin.com/yebt3FQn
#1503 [15:34] <binkster> yes?
#1504 [15:34] <Balee> Do you need a chunk, which is a 16x16x256 block area...
#1505 [15:34] <binkster> Yes, just one chunk
#1506 [15:34] <Balee> Or a region, which is a 512x512x256 block area, or simply put, 32x32 chunks.
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#1508 [15:34] <Balee> Aha.
#1509 [15:34] <Cisna> Can anyone help me?
#1510 [15:35] <Balee> I misunderstood you earlier, then.
#1511 [15:35] <Balee> Lemme think.
#1512 [15:35] <binkster> Balee, would you like to see a picture
#1513 [15:35] <Balee> What happened, if I may ask?
#1514 [15:35] <Balee> Sure.
#1515 [15:35] <Smanly> There may be a way to extract chunks from the region files.
#1516 [15:35] <ThisDudeRiteHere> My second question wasn't answered, I don't think. So if I'm in my old world, but walk to places I've never been, there should be 1.3.1 features?
#1517 [15:35] <Smanly> Perhaps with MCEdit.
#1518 [15:35] <Smanly> Yes, ThisDudeRiteHere.
#1519 [15:35] <ThisDudeRiteHere> Thanks :D
#1520 [15:35] <ThisDudeRiteHere> Have a fantastic day everyone.
#1521 [15:35] <Cisna> zzzz ?
#1522 [15:35] <Balee> (I'm not saying I can help, just that the idea of rebuilding of chunks and regions intrigues me and I'd gladly sit on the problem. :D )
#1523 [15:35] <Smanly> Adios.
#1524 [15:35] <Myritek> And to you.
#1525 [15:36] <Balee> Also...
#1526 [15:36] <Smanly> What was your issue, Cisna ?
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#1528 [15:36] <Balee> [21:33:30] <Smanly> yes, Balee.
#1529 [15:36] <Balee> Thanks.
#1530 [15:36] <binkster> alright, well what happened is i logged in, and a single chunck was completely missing, it is non-solid and i can build in it, but it is right in the middle of my base
#1531 [15:36] <binkster> Here is the picture http://i.imgur.com/nvabe.png
#1532 [15:37] <Smanly> are you sure that wast just a graphical chunk error?
#1533 [15:37] <Cisna> I want to create my own launcher for my own Minecraft Server, i want to install the plugins automatically for my users, but I can't start the client in Visual Basic, it say's the file does not exists, but the file exists...
#1534 [15:37] <Balee> Single player, aye?
#1535 [15:37] <binkster> correct
#1536 [15:37] <Cisna> See http://pastebin.com/T7GrhDHk
#1537 [15:37] <Balee> Tried exiting the map,
#1538 [15:37] <Balee> *?
#1539 [15:37] <Myritek> Tried restarting / removing mods / etc?
#1540 [15:37] <noahcrawford> @luzee I am going to close this window for now. I will be back on later, and then you or someone else could do teamviewer with me. thanks! :)
#1541 [15:37] <Balee> Wiggling the cable?
#1542 [15:37] <binkster> I have reloaded the client, forced updates
#1543 [15:37] <Balee> Mmmhmm.
#1544 [15:37] <Doogel> Smnaly, it lags a lot before it crashes.
#1545 [15:37] <binkster> I have never had mods installed
#1546 [15:37] <Doogel> Just tested.
#1547 [15:37] <Myritek> Whoa.
#1548 [15:38] <Smanly> This wouldnt be the place for that sort of help, Cisna.
#1549 [15:38] <Smanly> This wouldnt be the place for that sort of help, Cisna.
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#1551 [15:38] <Smanly> Try #risucraft maybe
#1552 [15:38] <Cisna> I have used Google, but I can't any solution.
#1553 [15:38] <luzee> Cisna, why are you defining the native+libraries for a server?
#1554 [15:38] <Elystus> Cisna: Sorry, I don't know VB, I know V C++
#1555 [15:38] <Elystus> Can't help
#1556 [15:38] <Smanly> Doogel, you do only have 2 gs of ram. How much do you launch MC with?
#1557 [15:38] <Balee> Hmmm...
#1558 [15:38] <Cisna> The launcher is not for my server, it's the client.
#1559 [15:38] <Elystus> Cisna: Though I believe that loading the jar file directly will bypass the launcher
#1560 [15:38] <Smanly> I understand, Cisna.
#1561 [15:39] <Cisna> The problem is: The file is not fount but it exists...
#1562 [15:39] <Doogel> Idk Smanly...
#1563 [15:39] <binkster> Balee, your original idea seemed it could work. Replacing the chunk in the current worl from a backed up version
#1564 [15:39] <Balee> Nono.
#1565 [15:39] <Elystus> Cisna: Check your directories. You didn't set a directory for the program to look int.
#1566 [15:39] <Smanly> Are you using the default launcher, Doogel ?
#1567 [15:39] <Elystus> in*
#1568 [15:39] <Balee> Conveniently you can only replace regions.-
#1569 [15:39] <Cisna> I have tried to run the file directoly in C:\MC\bin, but the same problem: File not found
#1570 [15:39] <Balee> That'd be too big for you.
#1571 [15:39] <binkster> HOw large are the regions?
#1572 [15:39] <Cisna> *directly
#1573 [15:39] <Balee> 512x512 area.
#1574 [15:39] <Doogel> yeah.
#1575 [15:39] <Cisna> And the files and folders exists.
#1576 [15:40] <Elystus> Cisna: That is not where it is located. It is located in the roaming file in appdata.
#1577 [15:40] <Morrolan> Cisna - What does io.file.exists(path) say?
#1578 [15:40] <Smanly> binkster, are you sure that your issue isnt a graphical glitch?
#1579 [15:40] <Cisna> I know, it was a test.
#1580 [15:40] <Cisna> Wait Morrolan
#1581 [15:40] <Balee> Smanly: He said he is, sounds like data corruption or something.
#1582 [15:40] <Myritek> He's restarted the map and force updated, Smanly
#1583 [15:40] <luzee> Cisna, also will you be including a login function? otherwise you'll be starting the client and they won't be able to login to the server.
#1584 [15:40] <binkster> Smanly, this might help. Upon starting up my computer today i got an error message from my graphics card, i dismissed it, restarted the computer, loaded minecraft, then the chunck was missing
#1585 [15:41] <Smanly> Ok, so the chunk is actually gone.
#1586 [15:41] <Balee> Was MC on when you recieved that error?
#1587 [15:41] <binkster> Yes, completely
#1588 [15:41] <binkster> no it was not
#1589 [15:41] <Cisna> For the test start only the client, the login screen comes later :)
#1590 [15:42] <Doogel> Smanly, I am.
#1591 [15:42] <Smanly> I only know of 2 options that will help. Both use World edit, binkster.
#1592 [15:42] <binkster> I loaded minecraft after dismissing the graphics card error
#1593 [15:42] <Balee> binkster: What are the coordinates of that area? Roughly.
#1594 [15:42] <Cisna> The IO says the file exists
#1595 [15:42] <binkster> That could help, im open to any suggestion Smanly
#1596 [15:42] <Balee> Like, the coord of the place you took the screenie from.
#1597 [15:42] <Elystus> Cisna: Oh so looking at the code I see that you are using the ev appdata. then adding \.minecraft\bin. Now, don't you have to put double slashes in any visual language? or is that just V C++?
#1598 [15:43] <Cisna> Itc VB10
#1599 [15:43] <Cisna> *Its
#1600 [15:43] <Smanly> You can either, 1. regen it to the regular terrain, or 2. load up you old save, save that chunk to a schematic then paste into the current world.
#1601 [15:43] <binkster> Balee, they are x -111, z 24
#1602 [15:43] <Cisna> Also remove the \ in .minecraft ?
#1603 [15:43] <Balee> That should be region 1,0...
#1604 [15:43] <Balee> Erm, -1,0
#1605 [15:43] <binkster> Smanly, i really like your second suggetsion, but my world, for some other reason, does not load up in MCEdit
#1606 [15:44] <Smanly> Ok Doogel, you can either use a batch file or get MagicLauncer. pick one.
#1607 [15:44] <Smanly> Can you open the world in game, binkster?
#1608 [15:44] <Smanly> I would make an extra copy of it before you do.
#1609 [15:44] <binkster> So Balee, how does knowing the region help
#1610 [15:44] <binkster> yes i can, Smanly
#1611 [15:44] <Cisna> ?
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#1613 [15:45] <binkster> Smanly, i do have an extra copy
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#1616 [15:45] <Doogel> Whats a batch file xD
#1617 [15:45] <Balee> binkster: Could you go to your world's folder, region, and upload r.-1.0.mca to http://speedyshare.com/ ?
#1618 [15:45] <BRAD> why are the login servers down!
#1619 [15:45] <FlamingHobo98> minecraft is le down
#1620 [15:45] <binkster> ya Balee, give me just a minuite
#1621 [15:45] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, we know
#1622 [15:45] <zzzz> because god is punishing you for your sins brad
#1623 [15:45] <Smanly> Yes Minecraft.bet is down.
#1624 [15:45] <FlamingHobo98> xD
#1625 [15:45] <BRAD> mmmmm
#1626 [15:45] <binkster> and Smanly, give me one second and i will see if i can get my world open in MCEdit
#1627 [15:45] <zzzz> ;)
#1628 [15:45] <Smanly> .bet, wtf/
#1629 [15:45] <Smanly> Ok.
#1630 [15:45] <FlamingHobo98> i found a good website
#1631 [15:46] <FlamingHobo98> to check minecraft service
#1632 [15:46] <Cisna> Elystus? :D
#1633 [15:46] <FlamingHobo98> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#1634 [15:46] <Elystus> Cisna: checking something
#1635 [15:46] <Doogel> smanly: Look for above message
#1636 [15:46] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, help.minecraft.net
#1637 [15:46] <Cisna> I have checked all
#1638 [15:46] <luzee> best one out there, it's official ;)
#1639 [15:46] <FlamingHobo98> luzee cannot be found
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#1641 [15:47] <FlamingHobo98> because the servers are down
#1642 [15:47] <Smanly> Doogel, Smanly> Ok Doogel, you can either use a batch file or get MagicLauncer. pick one.
#1643 [15:47] <FlamingHobo98> xD
#1644 [15:47] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, er oops help.mojang.com sorry
#1645 [15:47] <FlamingHobo98> :P
#1646 [15:47] <Myritek> Smanly: Can't binkster install Singleplayer Commands (w/ WorldEdit) and do it through there, since his world and MCEdit don't seem to work together nicely?
#1647 [15:47] <Doogel> Smanly, whats a batch file? xD
#1648 [15:47] <Elystus> Cisna: Replace "\.minecraft\bin" with "\\.minecraft\\bin"
#1649 [15:47] <binkster> Balee, which link do you want?
#1650 [15:47] <Smanly> thats what I said, yes Myritek.
#1651 [15:47] <Cisna> Elystus: Is the EV SpecialDirectory variable wrong?
#1652 [15:47] <luzee> Myritek, no, the regen command in single player doesn't work
#1653 [15:47] <Balee> Direct link I guess.
#1654 [15:47] <Elystus> Cisna: it could be
#1655 [15:47] <FlamingHobo98> aah yeah thats a good site :)
#1656 [15:47] <Balee> Or what's it called.
#1657 [15:47] <FlamingHobo98> thanks
#1658 [15:47] <Smanly> Ok, Doogel. got to Magiclauncer.com.
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#1660 [15:48] <Cisna> I try a other code :)
#1661 [15:48] <FlamingHobo98> anybody good with tekkit?
#1662 [15:48] <Myritek> luzee: He can still load up an older save and save the chunk as a schematic, though?
#1663 [15:48] <Elystus> Cisna: Try a print line of the env variable
#1664 [15:48] <Smanly> It doesnt, luzee? WHy not?
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#1666 [15:48] <binkster> Here Balee, http://speedy.sh/3AKvQ/r.-1.0.mcr
#1667 [15:48] <Cisna> What?
#1668 [15:48] <FlamingHobo98> like tekkit server
#1669 [15:48] <Doogel> should I use that to launch?
#1670 [15:48] <FlamingHobo98> my TPS is fluctuating
#1671 [15:48] <Doogel> Also, can I get my saves back.
#1672 [15:48] <Elystus> Cisna: Print line...
#1673 [15:48] <epicboy> My friend has a problem where it says Cannot connect to minecraft.net Any answers?
#1674 [15:48] <FlamingHobo98> any way to fix it?
#1675 [15:48] <Cisna> Wait
#1676 [15:48] <Smanly> Wont affect you saves, Doogel.
#1677 [15:48] <Elystus> Cisna: So you can see the path of the ev.
#1678 [15:48] <FlamingHobo98> epicboy, the servers are down
#1679 [15:49] <Myritek> epicboy: Minecraft.net is down right now, you'll just have to wait.
#1680 [15:49] <luzee> Smanly, because it doesn't? it's not been sorted to work yet, it just crashed the game
#1681 [15:49] <Balee> binkster: Wasn't there an mca file with the same name? Just the mcr?
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#1683 [15:49] <Smanly> luzee, lol, okay :/
#1684 [15:49] <Cisna> Yes, it's "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming"
#1685 [15:49] <binkster> Im sorry Balee, i misread it, her let me get the other file
#1686 [15:49] <salochin8> Greetings all, bought Minecraft 1.3.1 last week and we have been playing since. Today it won't login. "Can't Connect to minecraft.net" Are the servers down or intermittent?
#1687 [15:49] <Doogel> okei.
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#1689 [15:49] <Balee> No worries.
#1690 [15:49] <Balee> Should be good.
#1691 [15:49] <FlamingHobo98> the servers are down salo
#1692 [15:49] <Smanly> salochin8, Minecraft servers are done atm.
#1693 [15:49] <Cisna> Yes, it's "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming", Elystus
#1694 [15:49] <IxCHOOSExU> How can i get minecraft in browser to work?
#1695 [15:49] <Smanly> down**
#1696 [15:50] <FlamingHobo98> go here for info help.mojang.com
#1697 [15:50] <Elystus> Cisna: That is correct then, leave it. Now, print it with \.minecraft\bin added
#1698 [15:50] <IxCHOOSExU> How can i get minecraft in browser to work?
#1699 [15:50] <FlamingHobo98> http://www.help.mojang.com
#1700 [15:50] <Smanly> IxCHOOSExU, Dont spam. Minecraft is down right now. please wait.
#1701 [15:50] <binkster> Here you go Balee, http://speedy.sh/vVdkB/r.-1.0.mca
#1702 [15:50] <Smanly> You have it Doogel?
#1703 [15:50] <Balee> Thanks. :)
#1704 [15:50] <Doogel> Yeh.
#1705 [15:50] <Cisna> Elystus - You mean this? -> MsgBox(Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData + "\.minecraft\bin"))
#1706 [15:50] <Balee> I'll see what I can gather from this.
#1707 [15:51] <Doogel> I ran it.
#1708 [15:51] <binkster> OK thank you Balee
#1709 [15:51] <IxCHOOSExU> Im not spaming and minecraft is down?
#1710 [15:51] <Elystus> Cisna: That is one way of doing it.
#1711 [15:51] <FlamingHobo98> go here for minecraft.net status http://help.mojang.com/
#1712 [15:51] <Smanly> Run it, click "Setup", click "new", clcik the "Advanced" tab, then put in 256 for the memory setting.
#1713 [15:51] <Cisna> Invalid converting of the symbold :D
#1714 [15:51] <binkster> Hey Smanly, what other programs besides MCEdit could i use to make a schematic of the chunk and put it into my world?
#1715 [15:51] <Elystus> Cisna: wait, shouldn't that be MsgBox(Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData) + "\.minecraft\bin")
#1716 [15:51] <Smanly> Not sure, binkster.
#1717 [15:51] <Myritek> IxCHOOSExU: Repeating your question more than once just clogs up the chat, people see the first one. And the login servers are not yet up again, so you cannot log in.
#1718 [15:52] <FlamingHobo98> well said
#1719 [15:52] <Doogel> Was that for me, Smanly?
#1720 [15:52] <binkster> Myritek, did tyou have any suggetsions for my issue?
#1721 [15:52] <Smanly> Yes, Doogel. Sorry.
#1722 [15:52] <Doogel> It's ok.
#1723 [15:52] <Myritek> Binkster: Apparently I was wrong, luzee corrected me. I thought you could've used WorldEdit to save the chunk as a schematic from an older save, and then load it in.
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#1725 [15:53] <ctingle18> HELP
#1726 [15:53] <Smanly> You could put your world on an SMP server, binkster.
#1727 [15:53] <Myritek> What's your issue, ctingle18?
#1728 [15:53] <binkster> Aww man, so you are telling me that i cannon sdo that?
#1729 [15:53] <ctingle18> minecraft says connect to minecraft.net
#1730 [15:53] <binkster> Smanly what would that do?
#1731 [15:53] <ctingle18> but i hace internet connection
#1732 [15:53] <FlamingHobo98> ok, now the mojang help page wont display the status D:
#1733 [15:53] <Myritek> ctingle18: Log-in servers are currently down. Give it a bit of time.
#1734 [15:53] <IxCHOOSExU> ? I hade trouble with minecraft in browser game when the serevrs where up
#1735 [15:53] <ctingle18> not server logins
#1736 [15:53] <Smanly> Worldedit doesnt do what I want it to do in Single player, binkster.
#1737 [15:53] <Myritek> IxCHOOSExU: What kind of problems?
#1738 [15:53] <ctingle18> but the minecrsft login
#1739 [15:53] <ctingle18> minecraft*
#1740 [15:53] <Doogel> Ok so Smanly I did that, now imma log in. It shouldn 't crash now?
#1741 [15:54] <ctingle18> still not wrkxing
#1742 [15:54] <Myritek> Yes, ctingle18: You can't log on normally. You should be able to play offline, though.
#1743 [15:54] <Smanly> We'll seem Doogel.
#1744 [15:54] <Smanly> See*
#1745 [15:54] <luzee> ctingle18, the server at mojang that deals with the minecraft logins is down
#1746 [15:54] <binkster> So do you want me to put it on a server and have you join the server Smanly?
#1747 [15:54] <ctingle18> kk
#1748 [15:54] <ctingle18> they always have the f*ing servers down
#1749 [15:54] <FlamingHobo98> true... they need better servers
#1750 [15:54] <Elystus> THis is true
#1751 [15:55] <Smanly> That would work, binkster. If you give me the world saves, I may be able to do it for you. What version is the map from?
#1752 [15:55] <FlamingHobo98> either that or everybody goes cracked xD
#1753 [15:55] <IxCHOOSExU> When I tryed to run the browser verson it gave me a black screen but when i want to the minecraft downloadable it workd fine
#1754 [15:55] <Balee> Yeah, the map re-generated at that point for me. Although not as originally intended.
#1755 [15:55] <Cisna> Elystus, what is the solution? :(
#1756 [15:55] <Doogel> Lemme test for a couple minutes.
#1757 [15:55] <Elystus> Cisna: wait, shouldn't that be MsgBox(Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData) + "\.minecraft\bin")
#1758 [15:55] <Balee> I take it this is an older map, originally.
#1759 [15:55] <Elystus> ^
#1760 [15:55] <Cisna> ?
#1761 [15:55] <Cisna> What did you mean?
#1762 [15:55] <binkster> I have had this single player map since Beta 1.4 Smanly. And give me just a minute to load the world save into mediafire
#1763 [15:55] <Elystus> Cisna: Put this in inplace of what you have MsgBox(Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData) + "\.minecraft\bin")
#1764 [15:55] <Smanly> O.o
#1765 [15:56] <FlamingHobo98> whats that code for?
#1766 [15:56] <Cisna> Elystus - Okay, I have it
#1767 [15:56] <Elystus> did it work?
#1768 [15:56] <Cisna> No
#1769 [15:56] <Elystus> what was the error?
#1770 [15:56] <salochin8> Thanks all. Just curious, the neighbor is online. Are some able to get on? others not?
#1771 [15:56] <Cisna> File not found
#1772 [15:56] <Smanly> I will need your backup aswell, binkster.
#1773 [15:56] <FlamingHobo98> salochin8: have they just logged in?
#1774 [15:56] <Cisna> But the command works on my command promotd (cmd on windows), in VB not ...
#1775 [15:56] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, Cisna is trying to make a launching apllication in visual basic
#1776 [15:56] * GEARSoWfan [GEARSoWfan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1777 [15:56] <GEARSoWfan> can't login??
#1778 [15:57] <FlamingHobo98> oook
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#1780 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> i can't login to minecraft :(
#1781 [15:57] <FlamingHobo98> servers are down GEARSoWfan
#1782 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> oh
#1783 [15:57] <salochin8> 20 minutes ago or so?
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#1785 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> how long?
#1786 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> for how long
#1787 [15:57] <binkster> Alright Smanly you got it, jsut give me one minute
#1788 [15:57] <FlamingHobo98> we dont know xD
#1789 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> :P
#1790 [15:57] <FlamingHobo98> we dont work for minecraft
#1791 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> I see
#1792 [15:57] <Elystus> Cisna: It is hard to help someone with basic with a knowledge of C++ :/ Can you try and find someone that knows Basic? (Hint: They are not in this channel)
#1793 [15:57] <Natherul> is the minecraft login servers down or something?
#1794 [15:57] <IxCHOOSExU> ill just come back when the server is back up
#1795 [15:57] <FlamingHobo98> yup
#1796 [15:57] <flagg> servers down? I might start crying soon
#1797 [15:57] <GEARSoWfan> cisna
#1798 [15:57] <bonney12> When might the servers be back on?
#1799 [15:57] <Balee> Smanly: You'll only need that one region, won't you?
#1800 [15:57] <zzzz> someday
#1801 [15:57] <Cisna> I have some friends, but they have no idea :(
#1802 [15:58] <GEARSoWfan> They have websites to help with c++ ya know
#1803 [15:58] <FlamingHobo98> ok, lets make this clear... THE SERVERS ARE DOWN!
#1804 [15:58] <Myritek> bonney12: Not known. Shouldn't be too long, though.
#1805 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> bonney12 - When they're up, they'r'e up
#1806 [15:58] <Cisna> Yes, GEARSoWfan ?
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#1808 [15:58] <GEARSoWfan> and my dad taught me how
#1809 [15:58] <GEARSoWfan> :)
#1810 [15:58] <Smanly> Um, yeah, I suppose, Balee.
#1811 [15:58] <bonney12> Myritek, Thankyou :)
#1812 [15:58] <GEARSoWfan> hes a web designer
#1813 [15:58] <disgustipated> hey are the servers down?
#1814 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> disgustipated -Yes
#1815 [15:58] <disgustipated> lol
#1816 [15:58] <FlamingHobo98> check here to see if they're up or down http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#1817 [15:58] <GEARSoWfan> anybody here know how to use iMovie on mac pretty well?
#1818 [15:58] <Smanly> Lol
#1819 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Or just check help.mojang.com
#1820 [15:58] <Myritek> FlamingHobo98: The chances of someone seeing that in-between logging on and asking their question...
#1821 [15:58] <disgustipated> i was being facetious
#1822 [15:58] * Merpanator100 [Merpanator100@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1823 [15:58] <binkster> Smanly, while they are uploading let me give you a little info.
#1824 [15:59] <Smanly> Hokay.
#1825 [15:59] <Merpanator100> hello
#1826 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> !auth down
#1827 [15:59] <Smanly> D:
#1828 [15:59] <FlamingHobo98> arreee...
#1829 [15:59] <Smanly> !login
#1830 [15:59] <FlamingHobo98> aah well
#1831 [15:59] <luzee> Cisna/ Elystus there is a visual basic channel on freenode #vb ;)
#1832 [15:59] <Merpanator100> Why is everyones skin steve and when i talk in single player its says my name as player
#1833 [15:59] <Cisna> Is that the solution?^^ http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/br/vbgeneral/thread/b6eab392-9e67-48ee-bf2f-17dbb9b071b6
#1834 [15:59] <Smanly> Minecraft is down, Merpanator100.
#1835 [15:59] <binkster> The current one with the chunck error is about 2 weeks older than the backup. So if you could do this it would mean a lot because if i have to play on the backup i will lose a lot of work, thank you
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#1837 [15:59] <Elystus> Cisna: Maybe going to the VB channel would be good
#1838 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Merpanator100 - Because the auth server is down
#1839 [15:59] <FlamingHobo98> because you're playing offline
#1840 [16:00] <Merpanator100> to thnaks
#1841 [16:00] <GEARSoWfan> i think that the minecraft servers are down WAY too often
#1842 [16:00] <Merpanator100> ok thnaks
#1843 [16:00] <Myritek> GEARSoWfan: Yeah, most people seem to think so. :P
#1844 [16:00] <Smanly> Yeah, Hopefully this works, binkster. Goodthink you have a backup.
#1845 [16:00] <FlamingHobo98> GEARSoWfan: i agree!!
#1846 [16:00] <IxCHOOSExU> if your alredy loged on you can play online
#1847 [16:00] <Myritek> I just switch to playing Skyrim or something.
#1848 [16:00] <Myritek> Whoo for keeping backups!
#1849 [16:00] <FlamingHobo98> my server population is depleting
#1850 [16:00] <FlamingHobo98> very slowly xD
#1851 [16:00] <GEARSoWfan> They need some better hosting or something
#1852 [16:00] <GEARSoWfan> I'm getting tired of this
#1853 [16:01] <GEARSoWfan> well I'm gonna go play sky rim then
#1854 [16:01] <GEARSoWfan> skyrim*
#1855 [16:01] <binkster> Thanks Smanly, i just wished i backed it up more recently haha
#1856 [16:01] <luzee> Guys, we're talking about technology here, whenever does technology work perfectly?
#1857 [16:01] <binkster> Hey Balee, do you have anything?
#1858 [16:01] <IxCHOOSExU> I picked the wrong time have a problem with minecraft thats not login related
#1859 [16:01] <Smanly> Yeah, what can you do.
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#1861 [16:01] <flagg> luzee: in science fiction
#1862 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Pay Mojang more money
#1863 [16:01] <ctingle18> it is up yet?
#1864 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> No
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#1866 [16:01] <Smanly> very true IxCHOOSExU.
#1867 [16:01] <FlamingHobo98> dont ask if its up.... try and log in
#1868 [16:01] <ctingle18> there god damn servers are always down!
#1869 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> They're really not
#1870 [16:01] <Smanly> ^
#1871 [16:02] <chrislife> always = rarely
#1872 [16:02] <GEARSoWfan> and um guys it tells you on http://mojang.com/help whether or not servers are up :P
#1873 [16:02] <Balee> Yeah, I'm griefing as we speak.
#1874 [16:02] <Balee> (Not.)
#1875 [16:02] <Elystus> It seems like they are because people freak out about it.
#1876 [16:02] <Balee> Honestly...
#1877 [16:02] * Nerd_Scavatore [Nerd_Scavatore@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1878 [16:02] <Nerd_Scavatore> hey
#1879 [16:02] <FlamingHobo98> page not found xD
#1880 [16:02] <luzee> They have about 97% uptime actually, it's been a fair while since they last went down
#1881 [16:02] <Nerd_Scavatore> i need help
#1882 [16:02] <GEARSoWfan> whoops i mean http://help.mojang.com
#1883 [16:02] <Smanly> help.mojang.com.
#1884 [16:02] <Smanly> lol
#1885 [16:02] <FlamingHobo98> pahaha
#1886 [16:02] <ctingle18> i hate this
#1887 [16:02] <Nerd_Scavatore> help
#1888 [16:02] <Balee> I see Smanly knows his stuff with MCEdit or what.
#1889 [16:02] <Nerd_Scavatore> i don't remember security answer
#1890 [16:02] <Myritek> Yeah, actually - to be honest I pretty much only play SMP, but I haven't noticed *that* many issues.
#1891 [16:02] <Balee> My approach would have been hexediting.
#1892 [16:03] <Nerd_Scavatore> i don't remember security answer
#1893 [16:03] <Nerd_Scavatore> i don't remember security answer
#1894 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> To
#1895 [16:03] <luzee> Nerd_Scavatore, we read the first time
#1896 [16:03] <Smanly> Eh, not so much with MCEdit. But with Worldedit, yes.
#1897 [16:03] <Nerd_Scavatore> help me please :-]
#1898 [16:03] <binkster> While BALEE THANKS FOR YOUR HELP, AND IF sMANLY'S IDEA DOESN'T WORK OUT WE WILL GO WITH YOURS
#1899 [16:03] <Balee> WorldEdit, that.
#1900 [16:03] <binkster> sorry for all caps
#1901 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Nerd_Scavatore - You forgot the security answer to...
#1902 [16:03] <IxCHOOSExU> im just going to wait here and watch a bunch of people just come in asking the same question and laugh lol
#1903 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Nerd_Scavatore - Hello?
#1904 [16:03] <Nerd_Scavatore> my minecraft mojang account
#1905 [16:03] <Myritek> WorldEdit is a beauty - haven't touched MCedit though, I've never really needed anything for Singleplayer.
#1906 [16:03] <FlamingHobo98> thats what im doing!
#1907 [16:04] <GEARSoWfan> guys
#1908 [16:04] <GEARSoWfan> servers are back up
#1909 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Nerd_Scavatore - Minecraft has a security answer field?
#1910 [16:04] <Nerd_Scavatore> i don't remember security answer to mojang account
#1911 [16:04] <FlamingHobo98> you havent forgotten your passwor
#1912 [16:04] <GEARSoWfan> say wait never mind
#1913 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Lies
#1914 [16:04] <GEARSoWfan> they were up for a second
#1915 [16:04] <GEARSoWfan> :P
#1916 [16:04] <FlamingHobo98> Nerd_Scavatore: if you cant log in, its not because you forgot your password
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#1918 [16:04] <FlamingHobo98> minecraft.net is up!!
#1919 [16:04] <luzee> !login
#1920 [16:04] <luzee> ^ you say?
#1921 [16:05] <Nerd_Scavatore> i remember e-mail and password but the mojang site requires the security answer because is my first mojang account login
#1922 [16:05] <binkster> Sorry Smanly give me a bit longer, having some trouble with uploading
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#1924 [16:05] <Smanly> Np, binkster.
#1925 [16:05] <Nerd_Scavatore> Since you are logging in from this computer for the first time we need you to confirm your identity before you can continue. This is to make sure that your account isn't used without your authorization. To confirm your identity, please answer the questions below.
#1926 [16:05] <Nerd_Scavatore> This is the message
#1927 [16:05] <Cisna> No one is available at #vb on FreeNode xD
#1928 [16:05] <FlamingHobo98> Nerd_Scavatore: then you sir... are screwed!
#1929 [16:05] <luzee> Okay mollstam is working on the logins
#1930 [16:05] <Nerd_Scavatore> Help me please ):
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#1932 [16:06] <luzee> Cisna, then idle there until someone is ;)
#1933 [16:06] <Cisna> Ask your problem.
#1934 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Nerd_Scavatore - Nothing we can do about it. Contact Mojang at:
#1935 [16:06] <FlamingHobo98> i would contact mojang for help on that
#1936 [16:06] <luzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1937 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1938 [16:06] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1939 [16:06] <luzee> ^ there
#1940 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1941 [16:06] <luzee> ;)
#1942 [16:06] <Smanly> Lol
#1943 [16:06] <IceGuest_77> whats going on with the login?
#1944 [16:06] <FlamingHobo98> The minecraft.net servers are down
#1945 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> IceGuest_77 - IT's down
#1946 [16:06] <GEARSoWfan> ugh this is taking way too long
#1947 [16:06] <binkster> Hey Balee, i have a backup so griefing won't be a problem haha
#1948 [16:06] <Elystus> kiichan! :D
#1949 [16:06] <chrislife> They are aware of the problem and working on it.
#1950 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> IceGuest_77 - See http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1951 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> i was writing that before he asked because i knew he was gonna ask it!
#1952 [16:07] <Balee> :)
#1953 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> er
#1954 [16:07] <GEARSoWfan> if its down for hours again like last time I'm gonna be pissed
#1955 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> See http://help.mojang.com/
#1956 [16:07] <ctingle18> same
#1957 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> im sure you can last without minecraft
#1958 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> speak to your family?
#1959 [16:07] <ctingle18> im at my friends to play minecraft and the fing game doesnt workx
#1960 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> play games?
#1961 [16:07] <ctingle18> im gonna hab withdrawl
#1962 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> play xbox instead?
#1963 [16:07] <luzee> Guys, mollstam isn't on a train this time, he's working on it
#1964 [16:07] <ctingle18> help im dying
#1965 [16:07] <GEARSoWfan> lol flaming I'm playing skyrim on my xbox right now
#1966 [16:07] <ctingle18> who is that?
#1967 [16:07] <binkster> Alright Smanlet, about 10 minutes on the upload, both files are over 150mB's
#1968 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> good idea!!
#1969 [16:07] <GEARSoWfan> and chatting :P
#1970 [16:07] <FlamingHobo98> XBOX FTW.
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#1972 [16:08] <GEARSoWfan> lol ikr
#1973 [16:08] <luzee> mollstam, is the web dev/server admin guy
#1974 [16:08] <ctingle18> is mollstam mojang person?
#1975 [16:08] <FlamingHobo98> i dont really play mine anymore
#1976 [16:08] <Elystus> Everybody who is talking about not being able to log in, please stop talking about it. People have other issues that are not of this nature.
#1977 [16:08] <ctingle18> oh
#1978 [16:08] <Smanly> :3
#1979 [16:08] <GEARSoWfan> :O
#1980 [16:08] <Elystus> Mollstam will fix it as soon as he can.
#1981 [16:08] <Myritek> Psh - no mods? How can you stand it. (And sorry, no more offtopic talk from me)
#1982 [16:08] <RNX_Epenance> Any1 who can help me? My minecraft chrashes within a few seconds of playing everytime i try to play it
#1983 [16:08] <ctingle18> he was on a train last toime?
#1984 [16:08] <ctingle18> time
#1985 [16:08] <Balee> Go to #minecrafthelpicantlogin
#1986 [16:08] <Myritek> RNX_Epenance: Any kind of error message?
#1987 [16:08] <ctingle18> how does it crash anyway?
#1988 [16:08] <RNX_Epenance> There is error logs
#1989 [16:08] <RNX_Epenance> it just closes down
#1990 [16:08] <ctingle18> when there are too many peeps playing?
#1991 [16:08] <RNX_Epenance> no messages
#1992 [16:09] <ctingle18> the server
#1993 [16:09] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: generate us a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1994 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> please share the error log with us via pastebin.com
#1995 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL
#1996 [16:09] <ctingle18> it is probs like a massive sever room with tons of servers
#1997 [16:09] <RNX_Epenance> http://pastebin.com/6aqwjpvD
#1998 [16:09] <FlamingHobo98> can you just make chat cannels willy nilly?
#1999 [16:09] <FlamingHobo98> channels*
#2000 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your ATI video -drivers are at fault.
#2001 [16:09] <GEARSoWfan> SERVERS...
#2002 [16:09] <GEARSoWfan> might...
#2003 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update them?>
#2004 [16:09] <GEARSoWfan> be..back up
#2005 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> They're not
#2006 [16:09] <Myritek> GEARSoWfan: Stop lying to us D:
#2007 [16:09] <GEARSoWfan> crap now it says error when i try to login
#2008 [16:10] <ctingle18> the minecraft drivers are a fault
#2009 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Please check http://help.mojang.com/ before you tell us
#2010 [16:10] <ctingle18> are at fault?
#2011 [16:10] <RNX_Epenance> Ill try to check for updates
#2012 [16:10] <RNX_Epenance> Ill try to check for updates
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#2014 [16:10] <ctingle18> im meant as a question
#2015 [16:10] <luzee> ??> RNX_Epenance gpu/amd
#2016 [16:10] <VoxelHead> RNX_Epenance: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2017 [16:10] <ctingle18> i forgot the ? points
#2018 [16:10] <ctingle18> srry
#2019 [16:10] * Elystus leaves for a little while.
#2019 [16:10] <RNX_Epenance> Cheers
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#2021 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> \o
#2022 [16:11] <FlamingHobo98> now that. is an error report and a half!
#2023 [16:11] <ctingle18> well the minecraft website is up
#2024 [16:11] <FlamingHobo98> silence
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#2026 [16:11] <IxCHOOSExU> it the end of the world! minecraft is down!!!!!
#2027 [16:11] <ctingle18> so the help page is wrong bout that
#2028 [16:11] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, theres only one small bit we need to look at to find the problem,
#2029 [16:11] <GEARSoWfan> guys
#2030 [16:11] <ctingle18> but minecraft is down (right bout that)
#2031 [16:11] <FlamingHobo98> i said that like 10 minutes ago -_-
#2032 [16:11] <GEARSoWfan> read notches twitter
#2033 [16:12] <GEARSoWfan> they are fixing it
#2034 [16:12] <GEARSoWfan> :P
#2035 [16:12] <ctingle18> IM DYING OF MINECRAFT WITHDRAWL
#2036 [16:12] <FlamingHobo98> aah it is an error on the driver paths so i guess that kinda gives it away?
#2037 [16:13] <Balee> binkster: Let's hope Smanly's idea works, not sure if hexediting is a possibility realistically.
#2038 [16:13] <ctingle18> i think minecraft might b up soon
#2039 [16:13] <ctingle18> mayb
#2040 [16:13] <Smanly> :D
#2041 [16:13] <ctingle18> im making an estimated guess
#2042 [16:13] <Balee> It'd require a lot of in-depth exploration into the file formats.
#2043 [16:13] <ctingle18> the help page just updated and said minecraft.net is working
#2044 [16:13] <FlamingHobo98> what on earth could you base that on?!
#2045 [16:13] <FlamingHobo98> i said like 10 minutes ago that minecraft.net was up!!!
#2046 [16:14] <Smanly> There may be a recovery tool for it.
#2047 [16:14] <Smanly> !login
#2048 [16:14] <Smanly> ....
#2049 [16:14] <FlamingHobo98> !login
#2050 [16:14] <FlamingHobo98> nice!!
#2051 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> they are back up
#2052 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> guys
#2053 [16:14] <FlamingHobo98> thats pretty cool
#2054 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> servers are back up
#2055 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> check
#2056 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> no joke
#2057 [16:14] <Smanly> Dont spam that please
#2058 [16:14] <binkster> hey smanly, i got the file uploaded you ready?
#2059 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> GEARSoWfan - STop
#2060 [16:14] <Smanly> Just didm GEARSoWfan.
#2061 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> grey
#2062 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> They're not up
#2063 [16:14] <Myritek> GEARSoWfan: This is the fourth time you've said that, did you check something else first?
#2064 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> im serious
#2065 [16:14] <ctingle18> damn now another thins is down
#2066 [16:14] <GEARSoWfan> look
#2067 [16:15] <ctingle18> thing
#2068 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> mytritek
#2069 [16:15] <luzee> ?? dont/shout
#2070 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> im freaking serious
#2071 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> look
#2072 [16:15] <VoxelHead> dont/shout: There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#2073 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> GEARSoWfan- I'm looking right at: http://help.mojang.com/
#2074 [16:15] <Smanly> Lol, sure, binkster.
#2075 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> GEARSoWfan - They're not up.
#2076 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> grey?
#2077 [16:15] <Myritek> GEARSoWfan: Less spam.
#2078 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> u want me to screen share?
#2079 [16:15] <Smanly> Ban him wtf.
#2080 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> I'm on a premium server right now
#2081 [16:15] <FlamingHobo98> minecraft logins.... DOWN
#2082 [16:15] <binkster> http://www.mediafire.com/?undefined http://www.mediafire.com/?r9cusqye913dk50
#2083 [16:15] <binkster> The first one is the backup smanly
#2084 [16:15] <Smanly> undefined?
#2085 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> it works for me
#2086 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> grey whats ur skype
#2087 [16:15] <ctingle18> it says minecraft.net is down
#2088 [16:15] <GEARSoWfan> ill screen share
#2089 [16:15] <ctingle18> but it isnt
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#2091 [16:15] <FlamingHobo98> login faile
#2092 [16:15] <FlamingHobo98> GEARSoWfan: BULLSHIT!
#2093 [16:16] <GEARSoWfan> omg
#2094 [16:16] <GEARSoWfan> i will screen share
#2095 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> xD
#2096 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> GEARSoWfan - Then please leave and play.
#2097 [16:16] <zzzz> gearsofwarfan
#2098 [16:16] <GEARSoWfan> ugh why nobody believe me
#2099 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> pahaha
#2100 [16:16] <zzzz> just go play gears?
#2101 [16:16] <zzzz> kthxbai
#2102 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> i just tried to log in
#2103 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> login failed
#2104 [16:16] <Smanly> GEARSoWfan, its down. I guess you got lucky.
#2105 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> discuss
#2106 [16:16] <zzzz> someone throw vox on a timer saying "MINECRAFT LOGIN IS DOWN" every few minutes
#2107 [16:16] <zzzz> someone throw vox on a timer saying "MINECRAFT LOGIN IS DOWN" every few minutes
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#2109 [16:16] <luzee> GEARSoWfan, even if you can get online, doesn't mean others can, when the servers are under load then some can get through some can't
#2110 [16:16] <zzzz> we'd have nothing left to do
#2111 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> now thats a good shout!
#2112 [16:16] <FlamingHobo98> now thats a good shout!
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#2114 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> I have Greybot notice people that the servers are down when they join
#2115 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Nobody reads
#2116 [16:17] <GEARSoWfan> luzee then why do people keep hating on me
#2117 [16:17] <FlamingHobo98> because we're jealous
#2118 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Because you spam.
#2119 [16:17] <GEARSoWfan> i nvr spam
#2120 [16:17] <Smanly> binkster, your first link is borked.
#2121 [16:17] <FlamingHobo98> you have something we want.... really bad
#2122 [16:17] <GEARSoWfan> oh
#2123 [16:18] <GEARSoWfan> :/
#2124 [16:18] <binkster> Really, damnit, one second Smanly
#2125 [16:18] <ctingle18> tI GOT ON TO A OFFLINE SERVER
#2126 [16:18] <luzee> GEARSoWfan, no one is hating on you, but you do keep saying a lot of unnecessary stuff while there are people here who genuinely need help
#2127 [16:18] <luzee> Blegh
#2128 [16:18] <FlamingHobo98> all is good apart from minecraft logins....
#2129 [16:18] <Myritek> ctingle18: Less capsies! :)
#2130 [16:18] <binkster> Smanly, i think it is a limit on the amount i can upload, if you already have the second link downloaded im going to delete it and upload the second one
#2131 [16:19] <Smanly> not yet, binkster . I had to restart it. :#
#2132 [16:19] <binkster> Alright, don't worry the second link is still there im uploading the first again
#2133 [16:20] <FlamingHobo98> everybody go to #surprise
#2134 [16:20] <binkster> Smanly, i think i have to delete the second link, so let me know when you have downloaded it
#2135 [16:20] <ctingle18> r they up yet?
#2136 [16:20] <FlamingHobo98> no
#2137 [16:20] <ctingle18> is minecraft?
#2138 [16:20] <FlamingHobo98> dont ask.. just test
#2139 [16:20] <Smanly> done, binkster.
#2140 [16:20] <FlamingHobo98> minecraft.net is
#2141 [16:20] <FlamingHobo98> the website
#2142 [16:21] <FlamingHobo98> but the logins are not
#2143 [16:21] <binkster> ok, let me upload that first link again and i will post the link
#2144 [16:21] <FlamingHobo98> *sigh*
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#2147 [16:22] <RNX_Epenance> So i just updated the AMD Driver and im still crashing =/
#2148 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> turn it off..... then back on
#2149 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> ?
#2150 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> works for me
#2151 [16:22] <luzee> FlamingHobo98, not helpful
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#2153 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> sorry
#2154 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> just had to
#2155 [16:22] <luzee> ??> RNX_Epenance win/dxdiag
#2156 [16:22] <VoxelHead> RNX_Epenance: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2157 [16:22] <h34d_0g3r> can any1 tell me how long its gonna take until i can connect to minecraft.net
#2158 [16:22] <VoxelHead> RNX_Epenance: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2159 [16:22] <Smanly> Nope, h34d_0g3r.
#2160 [16:22] <h34d_0g3r> cant login atm so cant play with friends..
#2161 [16:22] <luzee> h34d_0g3r, whenever they fix it
#2162 [16:22] <h34d_0g3r> ..
#2163 [16:22] <FlamingHobo98> h34d_0g3r: we do not work for mojang so no
#2164 [16:23] <luzee> Honestly we can't say, no one here is affiliated with mojang
#2165 [16:23] <h34d_0g3r> didnt know if you we're, so just asking ;)
#2166 [16:23] <RNX_Epenance> http://pastebin.com/vX7uXHec
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#2169 [16:24] <Energeticmix> Hi please help me
#2170 [16:24] <luzee> O.o i don't like seeing nice computers not work RNX_Epenance :(
#2171 [16:24] <binkster> So Balee, while im waiting for these files to upload, wanna explain to me your suggestion?
#2172 [16:25] <luzee> Energeticmix, if its about login in the login servers are down
#2173 [16:25] <bonney12> ._. It's taking forever to be fixed
#2174 [16:25] <Myritek> And we don't know when they'll be fixed.
#2175 [16:25] <FlamingHobo98> because we dont work for mojang
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#2177 [16:25] <papaganoush> that sounds like something you ahve typed quite frequently
#2178 [16:25] <papaganoush> that sounds like something you ahve typed quite frequently
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#2180 [16:25] <FlamingHobo98> yup
#2181 [16:25] <Energeticmix> Jaja okey :D
#2182 [16:25] <Myritek> Now if someone could CTRL-C that and keep it ready...
#2183 [16:25] <ctingle18> is it up yet?
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#2185 [16:25] <FlamingHobo98> i will
#2186 [16:25] <Balee> Basically I thought of identifying the chunk within the region file.
#2187 [16:25] <Energeticmix> HMM
#2188 [16:26] <Energeticmix> luzee
#2189 [16:26] <Myritek> ctingle18: Instead of asking here and clogging up chat, check that link.
#2190 [16:26] <luzee> bonney12, you can tape a window back together, but the chances that it fails again is high, same with servers, a proper fix is always better
#2191 [16:26] <zzzz> im gonna say peace out, all these people whining about the servers being down is annoying me
#2192 [16:26] <Myritek> Bye zzzz!
#2193 [16:26] <Balee> And copy-paste the chunk in question from the backup.
#2194 [16:26] <binkster> How difficut is that, Balee?
#2195 [16:26] <Balee> But I looked into it and it...
#2196 [16:26] <Balee> Well, very difficult.
#2197 [16:26] <bonney12> luzee, Good metaphor.
#2198 [16:26] <bonney12> Or rather, Similie
#2199 [16:26] <bonney12> xD
#2200 [16:26] <Energeticmix> luzee but when we get us back?
#2201 [16:26] <papaganoush> while we wait - anyone know how I can get my mymsadmin server to accept smp commands via chat?
#2202 [16:26] <luzee> Energeticmix, when they are fixed
#2203 [16:26] <Balee> Because the region file is huge and it's rather hard to figure out its structure.
#2204 [16:27] <Balee> Even though there are descriptions about it.
#2205 [16:27] <Energeticmix> amm
#2206 [16:27] <binkster> Wll i am willing to do anything to fix this Balee, so if Smanly's plan doesn't work we will go with yours
#2207 [16:27] <Energeticmix> i'm not understand XDDDD
#2208 [16:27] <Smanly> Balee, http://dinnerbone.com/minecraft/tools/coordinates/
#2209 [16:27] <Smanly> But i guessing you know that.
#2210 [16:27] <Balee> Hard enough that you may be better off just rebuilding it in Creative. D:
#2211 [16:27] <Energeticmix> luzee
#2212 [16:28] <Myritek> Yeah, at this point I'd probably WorldEdit in a bottom level and then build a central pillar :P
#2213 [16:28] <Energeticmix> But when we more or less get involved
#2214 [16:28] <TharaThas> is there something wrong with the minecraft servers right now? it keep telling my i cant connect to the minecraft server when i try to log on to my account from the minecraft client..
#2215 [16:28] <binkster> Trust me Balee, i will do anything, and we will leave to rebuilding it in creative as the last pissibility
#2216 [16:28] <lutzee> how on earth did i fail /nick and not notice? O.o
#2217 [16:28] <binkster> possibility*
#2218 [16:28] <Balee> Smanly: I know how to figure out which region is which if that's what you mean.
#2219 [16:28] <Energeticmix> lutzee but when more or less will be available?
#2220 [16:28] <Smanly> lol
#2221 [16:28] <lutzee> Energeticmix, we can't say, it takes as long as it takes
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#2223 [16:29] <Energeticmix> Bueno bye jaja
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#2225 [16:29] <lutzee> TharaThas, the login servers are down
#2226 [16:29] <Energeticmix> Until another day good night to friends here in Spain is 22:29
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#2228 [16:29] <nightfall8154> Is minecraft net down I tried logging on but cannot i can only do it offline
#2229 [16:29] <TharaThas> hm, dam it.. is there any other way to update the client?
#2230 [16:29] <RNX_Epenance> VoxelHead any luck ? :>
#2231 [16:29] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, VoxelHead is a bot
#2232 [16:29] <binkster> Myritek, is it possible to make a schematic of the chunk and copy it into my world?
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#2234 [16:30] <lutzee> nightfall8154, the login servers are down
#2235 [16:30] <Balee> binkster: Like I said it's probably better to rebuild it.
#2236 [16:30] <RNX_Epenance> oh
#2237 [16:30] <Myritek> binkster: I wouldn't know, I have no experience with WorldEdit singleplayer. Apparently some stuff doesn't work.
#2238 [16:30] <Smanly> This should get him back most of his work.
#2239 [16:30] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, i'm not sure why your graphics is failing, it's a really nice card :/
#2240 [16:30] <Myritek> Smanly: I think he's just looking for alternatives if it doesn't work.
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#2242 [16:31] <binkster> Alright well thanks Myritek
#2243 [16:31] <Keks190> hello
#2244 [16:31] <binkster> and Balee, let's rtry everything else before that
#2245 [16:31] <RNX_Epenance> =/
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#2247 [16:31] <RNX_Epenance> Got any suggestions to what i can do?
#2248 [16:31] <Keks190> why can not log in??
#2249 [16:31] <Smanly> you havent given me the file, right, binkster ?
#2250 [16:31] <FlamingHobo98> maybe just re-install the card drivers?
#2251 [16:31] <FlamingHobo98> The Minecraft servers are down. Mojang are fixing it but we don't know how long it will take.
#2252 [16:31] <RNX_Epenance> I just did FlamingHobo98
#2253 [16:32] <binkster> correct Smanly, it's at 73% uploading
#2254 [16:32] <Guest> how is baby form?
#2255 [16:32] <FlamingHobo98> thats the message a CTRL-C'd
#2256 [16:32] <DJ> I can not log in
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#2258 [16:32] <RNX_Epenance> Completly uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the website
#2259 [16:32] <Myritek> Binkster, I guess you could try moving the world to SMP, using //regen, then save the chunk as a schematic and copy it in. It won't give you your stuff back, but it'll give you the original landscape so you can rebuild (might be easier than rebuilding from an empty chunk).
#2260 [16:32] <FlamingHobo98> V
#2261 [16:32] <FlamingHobo98> The Minecraft servers are down. Mojang are fixing it but we don't know how long it will take.
#2262 [16:32] <Guest> dw
#2263 [16:32] <Guest> edewwe
#2264 [16:32] <Guest> de
#2265 [16:32] <Guest> dwe
#2266 [16:32] <ObliviArt> I have minecraft up atm
#2267 [16:32] <FlamingHobo98> hmm... contact the graphics card make
#2268 [16:32] <Keks190> wait wait wait aso okay thank you that is ..
#2269 [16:32] <lutzee> Guest, please don't spam, if you have a question just ask
#2270 [16:32] <ObliviArt> so it might be back up
#2271 [16:33] <Smanly> Myritek, im loadind his backup from 2 weeks ago and pasting taht chunk into his current world :D
#2272 [16:33] <slowfi> don't I have to have a server to install worldEdit? I wish I had spherical brushes in singleplayer to make domes
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#2274 [16:33] <FlamingHobo98> nope... its still down
#2275 [16:33] <binkster> Well Myritek, it just so happens that the chunk is in the middle of my base, and there were so many room an seperate levels going through it, that i think it would be harder to carve them out of the chunk again rather than building in the empty space
#2276 [16:33] <lutzee> slowfi, single player commands comes with worldedit
#2277 [16:33] <Doogel> ITS WORKING~
#2278 [16:33] <Kealper> Grey: you on your phone or something?
#2279 [16:33] <Smanly> !login
#2280 [16:33] <Smanly> -_-
#2281 [16:33] <Smanly> Or somthing else, Doogel ?
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#2283 [16:33] <Myritek> Ah, okay, binkster: Sorry I can't help >;
#2284 [16:33] <FlamingHobo98> xd
#2285 [16:34] <slowfi> I don't really want singleplayer commands
#2286 [16:34] <FlamingHobo98> i was thinking that
#2287 [16:34] <Smanly> You can get WE in spc, slowfi.
#2288 [16:34] <binkster> It's alright, thanks for your help
#2289 [16:34] <Smanly> Oh
#2290 [16:34] <Smanly> You need it....
#2291 [16:34] <binkster> alright Smanly 90%
#2292 [16:34] <Smanly> :D
#2293 [16:35] <slowfi> how do you get worldEdit in single player?
#2294 [16:35] <Smanly> Ask goode
#2295 [16:35] <Smanly> Google*
#2296 [16:35] <Myritek> slowfi: Google singleplayercommands
#2297 [16:35] <lutzee> slowfi, by using the single player commands mod, it comes with it
#2298 [16:35] <lutzee> it's the only way
#2299 [16:35] <ObliviArt> ok i asked this question last night and tried to suggested fix, but still having the issue where the game seem to stop communicating with the server, it gets so that I cannot open chests, use forge or crafting table and blocks can be broken but nothing drops and when i place a new block where an old one was it becomes the old block
#2300 [16:35] <slowfi> I don't want sngleplayercommands
#2301 [16:36] <Smanly> ObliviArt, that is called lag.
#2302 [16:36] <Smanly> ObliviArt, does it happen on many servers?
#2303 [16:36] <lutzee> slowfi, then you cannot have worldedit in single player
#2304 [16:36] <slowfi> that's cheating. I just want to make domes
#2305 [16:36] <ObliviArt> i only play on my own server in multi
#2306 [16:36] <Smanly> then you are screwed. How is domes not cheating?
#2307 [16:36] <FlamingHobo98> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WorldEdit+in+single+player
#2308 [16:36] <lutzee> slowfi, nothing says you have to use those commands
#2309 [16:36] <Smanly> ^
#2310 [16:36] <FlamingHobo98> try that slowfi
#2311 [16:36] <binkster> Smanly it's done! lol here is the backup http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6blskff82a5xaxj
#2312 [16:37] <RNX_Epenance> lutzee i tried to reinstall java now and it didnt crash however
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#2314 [16:37] <ObliviArt> and the problem continues after the lag passes
#2315 [16:37] <RNX_Epenance> it ran out of Memory like 2 min into the game
#2316 [16:37] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, okay thats good
#2317 [16:37] <lutzee> oh
#2318 [16:37] <FlamingHobo98> give it more memory then!
#2319 [16:37] <RNX_Epenance> I got 16 gigs of ram
#2320 [16:37] <FlamingHobo98> are you using an exe to start it?
#2321 [16:37] <FlamingHobo98> or the jar
#2322 [16:37] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, minecraft will only use 1gb by default
#2323 [16:37] <Elystus> FlamingHobo98: more memory isn't always good.
#2324 [16:37] <Smanly> Balee, which region file was it?
#2325 [16:37] <RNX_Epenance> Minecraft.exe
#2326 [16:37] <binkster> did you get it Smanly?
#2327 [16:37] <RNX_Epenance> from the website
#2328 [16:38] <Smanly> Yeah, downloading, binkster.
#2329 [16:38] <FlamingHobo98> download the jar
#2330 [16:38] <binkster> alright awesome, thanks
#2331 [16:38] <lutzee> FlamingHobo98, not needed
#2332 [16:38] <FlamingHobo98> why?
#2333 [16:38] <RNX_Epenance> What jar?
#2334 [16:38] <FlamingHobo98> for the batch file to work
#2335 [16:38] <lutzee> the exe is a hidden jar file FlamingHobo98
#2336 [16:38] <Elystus> more memory will only do the opposite.
#2337 [16:38] <binkster> Smanly, are you going to load it into a server?
#2338 [16:38] <FlamingHobo98> minecraft has run out of memory..... Give it more?
#2339 [16:38] <Balee> Erm.
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#2342 [16:38] <FlamingHobo98> surely thats the solution?!
#2343 [16:38] <Smanly> Yes, binkster.
#2344 [16:38] <Balee> r.-1.0.mca
#2345 [16:39] <Smanly> thanks
#2346 [16:39] <FlamingHobo98> works for me!
#2347 [16:39] <lutzee> FlamingHobo98, no, thats actually counter productive
#2348 [16:39] <RNX_Epenance> So what do you suggest i do then?
#2349 [16:39] <FlamingHobo98> how is it?
#2350 [16:39] <Elystus> FlamingHobo98: In some cases yes. But sometimes it is due to having too much ram.
#2351 [16:39] <FlamingHobo98> ok, give it less memory?
#2352 [16:39] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, what do you have running while playing?
#2353 [16:39] <FlamingHobo98> which the batch file would be good for
#2354 [16:39] <Elystus> It means that minecraft has to parse through more space in order to fine files.
#2355 [16:39] <RNX_Epenance> Like nothing practically
#2356 [16:39] <Elystus> find*
#2357 [16:39] <binkster> alright, and i suppose i can't join because of minecraft.net being down, Smanly
#2358 [16:39] <RNX_Epenance> chrome
#2359 [16:39] <RNX_Epenance> dxdiag from before
#2360 [16:39] <RNX_Epenance> skype and notepad
#2361 [16:39] <ctingle18> is minecraft up yet?
#2362 [16:39] <Myritek> You can limit memory through Magic Launcher too, right?
#2363 [16:39] <lutzee> chrome uses a lot, same with skype
#2364 [16:40] <RNX_Epenance> But its surely not using 16 gigs of memory
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#2366 [16:40] <Smanly> Lol, binkster aw crap. I guess I will need to put it into offline mode so that I can join.
#2367 [16:40] <Myritek> ctingle18: For the love of god, check yourself or through one of those websites. There's other discussion going through here also.
#2368 [16:40] <FlamingHobo98> ctingle18: why not just test it yourself?!
#2369 [16:40] <lutzee> RNX_Epenance, what made you think 16gb or ram was needed?
#2370 [16:40] <binkster> haha alright that's fin, you just do your thing, Smanly
#2371 [16:40] <binkster> *fine
#2372 [16:40] <ObliviArt> is the jar better than exe?
#2373 [16:40] <Smanly> Lol
#2374 [16:40] <FlamingHobo98> i like it better
#2375 [16:40] <FlamingHobo98> but its the same thing
#2376 [16:40] <lutzee> ObliviArt, the exe is just the jar with an exe coat on ;)
#2377 [16:41] <RNX_Epenance> Now it crashed again T_T
#2378 [16:41] <FlamingHobo98> lutzee: why does the batch file not work with the exe?
#2379 [16:41] <ObliviArt> ok, was hoping maybe there was a difference
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#2381 [16:41] <Elystus> Okay, lutzee what have you guys done so far?
#2382 [16:41] <binkster> hey did someone else download my world file?
#2383 [16:41] <FlamingHobo98> if its a jar file inside the exe?
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#2385 [16:41] <binkster> was it you Balee?
#2386 [16:41] <lutzee> Elystus, he's reinstalled java and his video drivers
#2387 [16:41] <RNX_Epenance> http://pastebin.com/uJPC5nAB
#2388 [16:41] <ObliviArt> what is another way to stop lag besides fidling with memory?
#2389 [16:41] <FlamingHobo98> change the settings
#2390 [16:42] <binkster> Better internet
#2391 [16:42] <Myritek> Update Java, install the mod Optifine, lower your settings, get a better computer
#2392 [16:42] <Smanly> Get a better computer + optifine?
#2393 [16:42] <Balee> The world file, not.
#2394 [16:42] <ObliviArt> i have a 1.45mbs upload rate, i suppose thats fast enough?
#2395 [16:42] <ZeroYams> Can someone help me out? When I try to login on the browser, it says I can't connect to minecraft.net
#2396 [16:42] <Elystus> lutzee: If the current video cards are still causing a crash, were there any beta drivers available?
#2397 [16:42] <FlamingHobo98> actually, it depends if its client, server or connection lag
#2398 [16:42] <Myritek> Smanly: That would be the ideal :P
#2399 [16:42] <Balee> I actually have to go now, sorry.
#2400 [16:42] <binkster> ...
#2401 [16:42] <Smanly> ZeroYams, MC is down.
#2402 [16:42] <ZeroYams> Dang
#2403 [16:42] <binkster> when will you be back on Balee?
#2404 [16:42] <ctingle18> when will minecraft b up??????
#2405 [16:42] <lutzee> Elystus, i have no clue, he followed the website himself
#2406 [16:42] <Myritek> ZeroYams: Log-in servers are down, no ETA, they're workin gon it.
#2407 [16:42] <Smanly> Myritek, :P
#2408 [16:42] <Balee> I really have no idea.
#2409 [16:42] <FlamingHobo98> ctingle18: WE DONT KNOW
#2410 [16:42] <ZeroYams> kk
#2411 [16:42] <FlamingHobo98> wow!
#2412 [16:42] <binkster> alright well see you later hopefully
#2413 [16:42] <Elystus> lutzee: We should probably get the drivers for him to ensure they are the correct ones.
#2414 [16:43] <Myritek> ctingle18: Have you somehow missed all the times people responded to you / responded to other people? There is no ETA.
#2415 [16:43] <RNX_Epenance> http://piclair.com/data/zp5oy.jpg got this 2 min into the game again
#2416 [16:43] <FlamingHobo98> ObliviArt: what happens with the lag?
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#2418 [16:43] <Balee> Maybe later tonight (or today, depending where you live), or a few days later. D:
#2419 [16:43] <FlamingHobo98> what do you experience?
#2420 [16:43] <Balee> But like I said.
#2421 [16:43] <binkster> alright well if i see you i will let you know if anythng has been solved
#2422 [16:43] <Balee> Hexediting was an idea, but a bad one.
#2423 [16:43] <lutzee> Elystus, maybe, but his PC looks self built i guess he knows what card he has :/
#2424 [16:43] <Balee> MC isn't as easy to be hexedited.
#2425 [16:43] <binkster> we'll attempt it if we have to
#2426 [16:43] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Lets dedicate 386mb or ram to minecraft. See if that helps at all.
#2427 [16:43] <Balee> Unlike, say, Worms Armageddon scheme files.
#2428 [16:43] <Elystus> of*
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#2430 [16:44] <binkster> alright buddy, talk to you later
#2431 [16:44] <ObliviArt> well there will be an echo in the sound, which is sometimes shown as a spike in the data read out
#2432 [16:44] <binkster> thanks for all the help
#2433 [16:44] <vOn_> Minecraft.net Currently Mojang accounts website Minecraft logins Mojang accounts login Minecraft multiplayer sessions there all down for almost an hour
#2434 [16:44] <Balee> :)
#2435 [16:44] <binkster> Smanly any progress?
#2436 [16:44] <Balee> See ya later!
#2437 [16:44] <skenya> Do anyone know why the MC is down?
#2438 [16:44] <FlamingHobo98> thats probably client lag
#2439 [16:44] <binkster> bye
#2440 [16:44] <Smanly> binkster, working on it.:)
#2441 [16:44] <binkster> cool thanks!
#2442 [16:44] <lutzee> skenya, because the servers were under load and they crashed
#2443 [16:44] <FlamingHobo98> so have you changed any video settings in minecraft?
#2444 [16:44] <RNX_Epenance> Elystus
#2445 [16:44] <skenya> lutzee: Oooohh...
#2446 [16:44] <ObliviArt> ok client lag, so my client loses communication with my server?
#2447 [16:44] <RNX_Epenance> how?
#2448 [16:45] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Open note pad and put this code in: javaw -Xmx512m -Xms512m -jar minecraft.exe
#2449 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> no, your client isnt working fast enough
#2450 [16:45] <Smanly> have you ruled out server lag?
#2451 [16:45] <Elystus> then save it as a batch file.
#2452 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> well he said echoes
#2453 [16:45] <ObliviArt> i set all vid setting to lowest other than view which i leave norm
#2454 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> with his sound
#2455 [16:45] * Deathknight50 [Deathknight50@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2456 [16:45] <Deathknight50> Hi
#2457 [16:45] <Deathknight50> Can someone help me here?
#2458 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> hmm...
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#2460 [16:45] <IxCHOOSExU> I have a chalenge build the best house you can make intill the minecraft login is back up
#2461 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> Deathknight50: whats the problem?
#2462 [16:45] <Deathknight50> I have an error of Java runtime can anyone help me?
#2463 [16:45] <FlamingHobo98> what does it say?
#2464 [16:46] <Deathknight50> I cant load my server or minecraft
#2465 [16:46] <FlamingHobo98> what does the error say?
#2466 [16:46] <Deathknight50> it says:
#2467 [16:46] <Deathknight50> Error could not create the java virtual machine
#2468 [16:46] <Deathknight50> A fatal exception prgoram will exit
#2469 [16:46] <Deathknight50> Program
#2470 [16:47] <FlamingHobo98> re-install java and see if that works
#2471 [16:47] <lutzee> Deathknight50, reinstall java
#2472 [16:47] <Deathknight50> did already
#2473 [16:47] <Deathknight50> a couple of times
#2474 [16:47] <Deathknight50> and added/removed programs.
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#2476 [16:47] <FlamingHobo98> hmmm.....
#2477 [16:47] <Deathknight50> reinstalled 32 bit java too
#2478 [16:47] <FlamingHobo98> has it always done this?
#2479 [16:47] <Deathknight50> No
#2480 [16:47] <Deathknight50> Today is first time
#2481 [16:47] <RNX_Epenance> For some reason nothing happens when i press the bat file
#2482 [16:47] <Deathknight50> it started an hour or 2 ago
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#2484 [16:47] <RNX_Epenance> It like opens up the cmd fast then closes down
#2485 [16:47] <FlamingHobo98> hmm... did you install anything in the mean time?
#2486 [16:48] <Deathknight50> Yea
#2487 [16:48] <Deathknight50> Notepad++
#2488 [16:48] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Okay make the file name minecraft.bat then go to file types and change it to all files.
#2489 [16:48] <FlamingHobo98> RNX_Epenance: the code is probably wring then
#2490 [16:48] <Deathknight50> and
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#2492 [16:48] <Deathknight50> 32bit java
#2493 [16:48] <RNX_Epenance> javaw -Xmx512m -Xms512m -jar minecraft.exe
#2494 [16:48] <Deathknight50> and hamachi and stuff
#2495 [16:48] <Guest> so whats up with my mine craft?
#2496 [16:48] <Deathknight50> Just the basics to make a server
#2497 [16:48] <FlamingHobo98> thats what doesnt work for mwe
#2498 [16:48] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Oh it is doing that? Okay, put the launcher in the same location as the batch file.
#2499 [16:48] <FlamingHobo98> me*
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#2501 [16:48] <ObliviArt> flaming
#2502 [16:48] <Deathknight50> Error could not create the java virtual machine
#2503 [16:48] <FlamingHobo98> yes ObliviArt ?
#2504 [16:48] <Deathknight50> A fatal exception prgoram will exit
#2505 [16:48] <RNX_Epenance> Allready in the same folder Elystus
#2506 [16:48] <Deathknight50> Can anyone fix that?
#2507 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> i dont think so
#2508 [16:49] <ObliviArt> you still have that side chat open?
#2509 [16:49] <KidKody> What you guys tlaking about?
#2510 [16:49] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Then we will have to specify the path to java.
#2511 [16:49] <Deathknight50> Error could not create the java virtual machine A fatal exception prgoram will exit
#2512 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> side chat?
#2513 [16:49] <Deathknight50> can anyone fix this???????????
#2514 [16:49] <yoshi> MC auth server is down but i have 5 friends playing right now , hmmmm thats odd
#2515 [16:49] <Elystus> RNX_Epenance: Do you have jre7?
#2516 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> Deathknight50: google the error
#2517 [16:49] <ObliviArt> i just noticed a side chat with your name at the top
#2518 [16:49] <RNX_Epenance> jre7 ?
#2519 [16:49] <ObliviArt> up in the tabs
#2520 [16:49] <Elystus> Java run time enviroment 7.
#2521 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> where?!
#2522 [16:49] <KidKody> Does anyone know WHY the server is down?
#2523 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> no
#2524 [16:49] <Deathknight50> Ely how i fix it
#2525 [16:49] <ObliviArt> hmm ok
#2526 [16:49] <FlamingHobo98> ooh, whats it called?
#2527 [16:49] <KidKody> No one?
#2528 [16:49] <RNX_Epenance> Java 7 update 5
#2529 [16:49] <lutzee> KidKody, because it came under load then crashed
#2530 [16:49] <RNX_Epenance> yes?
#2531 [16:49] <Deathknight50> Flaming i been trying to google it for a few hours
#2532 [16:50] <Elystus> Deathknight50: I will get to you soon, be patient
#2533 [16:50] <KidKody> Lutzee
#2534 [16:50] <KidKody> what does that mean
#2535 [16:50] <KidKody> Under laod?
#2536 [16:50] <KidKody> load*
#2537 [16:50] <yoshi> the better question is why is MC only down for some and not all
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#2539 [16:50] <Deathknight50> Ok elystus
#2540 [16:50] <lutzee> too many people tried to log in and it crashed
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#2542 [16:50] <KidKody> :O
#2543 [16:50] <KidKody> wow
#2544 [16:50] <rawson02> my minecraft isnt updating.
#2545 [16:50] <KidKody> that is a BIG fail
#2546 [16:50] <KidKody> W8 isnt somehting like that EASY to fix?
#2547 [16:50] <KidKody> take it down and upload it agian?
#2548 [16:51] <yoshi> normally , unless you pay for it
#2549 [16:51] <lutzee> hehe, mollstam doesn't know whats wrong, just generally under heavy load
#2550 [16:51] <Myritek> KidKody: They aren't sure of the issue, according to Twitter. Working on it.
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#2553 [16:51] <KidKody> oh ok
#2554 [16:51] <KidKody> makes sense
#2555 [16:51] <Deathknight50> Flaming i been trying to google it for a few hours
#2556 [16:51] <FlamingHobo98> ok... xD
#2557 [16:51] <FlamingHobo98> sorry :P
#2558 [16:52] <yoshi> after 30 years of gaming , the only games that go down are the ones you pay for , ....... who knew
#2559 [16:52] <KidKody> Whats the name of the guy who created minecraft?
#2560 [16:52] <ctingle18> haha
#2561 [16:52] <KidKody> LOL yoshi
#2562 [16:52] <haha7isaboss> Hi! For whatever reason, I can't play minecraft online. It worked fine earlier today (at my dads house) but when i went to my mom's house it wouldnt work. I can play offline, but not online. If this helps, she just got a new internet modem the other day.
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#2564 [16:52] <ctingle18> monecraft servers are down
#2565 [16:52] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, the login servers are down, be patient
#2566 [16:52] <KidKody> minecraft servers are down
#2567 [16:52] <haha7isaboss> oh ok
#2568 [16:52] <KidKody> Guys
#2569 [16:52] <Deathknight50> Error could not create the java virtual machine A fatal exception prgoram will exit
#2570 [16:52] <KidKody> thwats the name
#2571 [16:52] <KidKody> of the guy
#2572 [16:52] <haha7isaboss> i thought it had something to do with me L)
#2573 [16:52] <skenya> KidKody: Markus Persson
#2574 [16:52] <KidKody> that made minecraft
#2575 [16:52] <haha7isaboss> :)*
#2576 [16:53] <KidKody> Ok
#2577 [16:53] <Deathknight50> ely u there
#2578 [16:53] <Deathknight50> Error could not create the java virtual machine A fatal exception prgoram will exit
#2579 [16:53] <Deathknight50> ?
#2580 [16:53] <KidKody> He better be freaking out
#2581 [16:53] <lutzee> Deathknight50, be patient.
#2582 [16:53] <Deathknight50> k
#2583 [16:53] <KidKody> cause this NEEDS to be fixed
#2584 [16:53] <KidKody> miencraft is my life :O
#2585 [16:53] <binkster> Anything yet Smanley?
#2586 [16:53] <lutzee> KidKody, not really
#2587 [16:53] <Deathknight50> what needs to be fixed?
#2588 [16:53] <Myritek> Try playing SSP. :P
#2589 [16:53] <haha7isaboss> @KidKody that's not good
#2590 [16:53] <Elystus> Deathknight50: Okay, what have you tried so far?
#2591 [16:53] <lutzee> servers crash all the time
#2592 [16:53] <haha7isaboss> ssp is great!
#2593 [16:53] <KidKody> WHAT! he should be sweating
#2594 [16:53] <binkster> I mean Smanly
#2595 [16:53] <Deathknight50> I tried resinstalling my java
#2596 [16:54] <Deathknight50> deleting all java from control panel
#2597 [16:54] <Deathknight50> umm
#2598 [16:54] <KidKody> he should be STRESSED because he is trying to bring it back up!
#2599 [16:54] <Elystus> Deathknight50: What version of Java have you installed?
#2600 [16:54] <Kealper> there are quite a few people in here trying to talk over eachother, it would pre preferable if people who are not recieving help and just off-topic talking could move their discusions to #mcchatter or #minecraft
#2601 [16:54] <Smanly> Am I not messaging you, binkster ?
#2602 [16:54] <Deathknight50> The latest version
#2603 [16:54] <Deathknight50> with FX
#2604 [16:54] <Kealper> s/pre//
#2605 [16:54] <KidKody> yea please
#2606 [16:54] <binkster> umm i haven't seen anything pop up Smanly, sorry if i missed
#2607 [16:54] <Myritek> Sorry, Kealper.
#2608 [16:54] <Deathknight50> i have deleted/resinstalled the
#2609 [16:54] <Deathknight50> minecraft
#2610 [16:54] <Deathknight50> umm..
#2611 [16:54] <yoshi> it funny my wife is playing online , on the server , behind me , but yet i cant sign in
#2612 [16:54] <Smanly> Look for a PM form me.
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#2614 [16:54] <Deathknight50> tried to do a cleaner but dont really know how
#2615 [16:54] <KidKody> Yea
#2616 [16:54] <KidKody> it works
#2617 [16:54] <Deathknight50> Kinda stuck on what to do for a few hours
#2618 [16:54] <KidKody> for some people
#2619 [16:55] <haha7isaboss> By the way (hate to be impatient), how long do you think it will be until the login servers are up?
#2620 [16:55] <Kealper> yoshi: she probably logged on before the servers went down
#2621 [16:55] <KidKody> but not for way
#2622 [16:55] <Smanly> I dont see the chunk error, binkster...
#2623 [16:55] <KidKody> not for everyone
#2624 [16:55] <yoshi> nope she logged in after me
#2625 [16:55] <Deathknight50> Elystus do u know a fix to it?
#2626 [16:55] <binkster> await Smanly, how do i check for pm's?
#2627 [16:55] <Kealper> yoshi: then she just got extremely lucky
#2628 [16:55] <KidKody> lol
#2629 [16:55] <KidKody> lol
#2630 [16:55] <yoshi> i got booted , she signed in np
#2631 [16:55] <Myritek> haha7isaboss: No ETA yet. My guess would be within the day, though - but who knows, since they don't know the issue.
#2632 [16:55] <Smanly> ./m smanly binkster try that.
#2633 [16:55] <Elystus> Deathknight50: Would you mind using teamviewer?
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#2635 [16:55] <Deathknight50> Not at all Ely
#2636 [16:55] <binkster> ./m smanly
#2637 [16:55] <Deathknight50> I have it was about to ask
#2638 [16:56] <Smanly> -_-
#2639 [16:56] <binkster> im an idiot
#2640 [16:56] <yoshi> and she just signed out to be a smart ass , and she signed back in and is playing again
#2641 [16:56] <KidKody> LOL
#2642 [16:56] <lutzee> use /query <nick>
#2643 [16:56] <KidKody> i got in minecraft!
#2644 [16:56] <Deathknight50> Ill give u my stuff hold on.
#2645 [16:56] <KidKody> i got in minecraft!
#2646 [16:56] <KidKody> it workSSS!!!
#2647 [16:56] <Deathknight50> It just started happening a few hours ago
#2648 [16:56] <binkster> please explain to me, i have never been in a chat room like this befor
#2649 [16:56] <Elystus> ??>> Deathknight50 teamviewer
#2650 [16:56] <Kealper> Deathknight50: make sure to give Elystus the information in private, not in this open chat
#2651 [16:56] <lutzee> KidKody, cool, but not everyone will
#2652 [16:56] <skenya> MC is working agen
#2653 [16:56] <DT39> yay i'm in as well!
#2654 [16:56] <KidKody> what??
#2655 [16:56] <Deathknight50> Hold on opening it and yes i know in private
#2656 [16:56] <KidKody> why not
#2657 [16:56] <Smanly> with out the "." bink.
#2658 [16:56] <KidKody> lutzeee why ur name red
#2659 [16:57] <KidKody> And why wont it work for everyone?
#2660 [16:57] <lutzee> KidKody, because i'm saying your name
#2661 [16:57] <binkster> wait i got it Smanly, let me join
#2662 [16:57] <Smanly> ok
#2663 [16:57] <Elystus> Pings everywhere ;-;
#2664 [16:57] <KidKody> smanly
#2665 [16:57] <Smanly> Yes
#2666 [16:57] <ctingle18> i cnt even get minecraft suppot updates :(
#2667 [16:57] <FlamingHobo98> IM ONLINE!!!!
#2668 [16:57] <KidKody> blinkster
#2669 [16:57] <Smanly> KidKody, yes?
#2670 [16:58] <haha7isaboss> @Myritek oh ok.... :( well thanks anyway guys
#2671 [16:58] <Kealper> KidKody: if you're not here to recieve or give help, it would be preferable for you to stay silent in here, and move your discussion to #minecraft
#2672 [16:58] <yoshi> try lor logins folks , i just got in
#2673 [16:58] <yoshi> SEEMS TO BE UP
#2674 [16:58] <KidKody> yea
#2675 [16:58] <KidKody> its up!
#2676 [16:58] <haha7isaboss> What's lor login?
#2677 [16:58] <KidKody> i told u!
#2678 [16:58] <Smanly> !login
#2679 [16:58] <Smanly> :D
#2680 [16:58] <Morrolan> inb4 it goes down again because everyone logs in now.
#2681 [16:58] <haha7isaboss> YAAA
#2682 [16:58] <Myritek> haha7isaboss: Working now! have fun, guys! :)
#2683 [16:58] <Smanly> Lol, Morrolan.
#2684 [16:58] <haha7isaboss> thanks yall
#2685 [16:58] <binkster> Samny, i cannon connect it is saying end of stream
#2686 [16:58] <Smanly> its on 1.2.5, binkster.
#2687 [16:58] <Myritek> Ah... now my stuck-at-work self is bored again.
#2688 [16:58] <KidKody> ITS WORKING
#2689 [16:59] <KidKody> SPAWN ITS WORKING
#2690 [16:59] <KidKody> SPAWN ITS WORKING
#2691 [16:59] <KidKody> SPAWN ITS WORKING
#2692 [16:59] <KidKody> SPAWN ITS WORKING
#2693 [16:59] <Kealper> KidKody: yes, we see that, no need to shout
#2694 [16:59] * Kealper kicked KidKody from #minecrafthelp (Reason: idKody :Spam.)
#2695 [16:59] <Eddie> ;k Eddie
#2696 [16:59] <binkster> I realize that, my minecraft is not in 1,2,5 and i don't have a backup of that .jar
#2697 [16:59] <Eddie> .k Eddie
#2698 [17:00] <Morrolan> Eddie - ; was WugBot's prefix, and that one isn't here.
#2699 [17:00] <Eddie> Shoot
#2700 [17:00] <Morrolan> There's AuBot's "!kick", try whether you can use that one.
#2701 [17:00] <Eddie> !kick Eddie
#2702 [17:00] <Morrolan> Oh, you have to try and kick someone who definitely doesn't have access.
#2703 [17:00] <Morrolan> Since people with kick access can't kick each otehr I think.
#2704 [17:00] <Morrolan> other*
#2705 [17:00] <Myritek> I'm totally down to be testkicked.
#2706 [17:01] <Eddie> No I have an idea
#2707 [17:01] <binkster> Smanly, im downloading 1.2.5 give me one moment
#2708 [17:01] <Smanly> ok
#2709 [17:01] <Smanly> Ah, I found the chink, lol
#2710 [17:01] * AuBot kicked Smanly from #minecrafthelp (Reason: manly :Please keep it civil.)
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#2714 [17:01] <Smanly> -_-
#2715 [17:01] <Smanly> Chunk*
#2716 [17:01] <KidKody> IT WORKS
#2717 [17:01] <KidKody> IT WORKS
#2718 [17:01] <KidKody> IT WORKS
#2719 [17:01] <KidKody> IT WORKS
#2720 [17:02] <Eddie> that wasn't such a good idea but w/e
#2721 [17:02] <Morrolan> !kb KidKody
#2722 [17:02] * GreyBot kicked KidKody from #minecrafthelp (Reason: idKody :<Kicks:941>)
#2723 [17:02] <Eddie> !kick EJGERJ
#2724 [17:02] <Smanly> !
#2725 [17:02] <Eddie> !k EJGERJ
#2726 [17:02] <Kealper> aww, you beat me by like half a second
#2727 [17:02] <Morrolan> Kealper - Heh, you got me with the first kick though.
#2728 [17:02] <Morrolan> My fingers kind of... entangled themselves.
#2729 [17:02] <Morrolan> Still busy with finding out which one's which at the moment ;D
#2730 [17:02] <Kealper> lol
#2731 [17:03] * Kealper just has /kickban aliased to /kb
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#2734 [17:04] <Myritek> All this modly talk is scary. Nobody needs help?
#2735 [17:04] <Morrolan> Seems my client has a built-in /kb, but no /kickban
#2736 [17:04] <Kealper> lol
#2737 [17:04] <Myritek> Do people come here for help with mods / Bukkit also, or do we send them away to those channels?
#2738 [17:04] <Morrolan> And, up to now, I didn't even know that it had a kickban functionality, always set banmasks manually (that is through Vox) or with GreyBot's help.
#2739 [17:05] <Morrolan> Myritek - Depends on wheter you want to provide support for mods/bukkit.
#2740 [17:05] <Morrolan> If you feel like giving them support with it - go for it.
#2741 [17:05] <Myritek> Ah. So no official rule on that, cool, cool.
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#2743 [17:05] <Morrolan> There's people who claim that "we don't support mods", slap them, if you see them. ;)
#2744 [17:05] <kxcabrera> Hello?
#2745 [17:05] <Myritek> Allo - what's up?
#2746 [17:06] <kxcabrera> Hi, Minecraft keeps crashing on me ):
#2747 [17:06] <lutzee> kxcabrera, when does this happen?
#2748 [17:06] <Myritek> Is there any sort of error message that comes up? (Answer lutzee's question first :P)
#2749 [17:06] <kxcabrera> It'll be fine in the beginning, starting up and stuff. But when I go into my inventory, it crashes when I exit the inventory
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#2751 [17:07] <lutzee> kxcabrera, do you have any mods installed at all?
#2752 [17:07] <Elystus> okay RNX_Epenance's problem was that he did not have java 7 64-bit
#2753 [17:07] <Elystus> so the client freaked out for some reason
#2754 [17:07] <kxcabrera> No, I couldn't figure our how to install them.
#2755 [17:07] <kxcabrera> *figure out
#2756 [17:07] <lutzee> kxcabrera, okay
#2757 [17:08] <lutzee> ??> kxcabrera forceupdate
#2758 [17:08] <VoxelHead> kxcabrera: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2759 [17:08] <VoxelHead> kxcabrera: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2760 [17:08] <kxcabrera> I've tried this many times
#2761 [17:08] <kxcabrera> because I read the forums online and thought it would help
#2762 [17:08] <lutzee> hmm
#2763 [17:08] <kxcabrera> but it didn't make a difference!
#2764 [17:08] <lutzee> okay an error report will be useful
#2765 [17:08] <haha7isaboss> ok servers are up, butnow my game is doing the bsod
#2766 [17:09] <lutzee> kxcabrera, look here try and get one http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2767 [17:09] <lutzee> kxcabrera, look here try and get one http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#2769 [17:09] <haha7isaboss> the mods i had before the log in server crash worked fine. Now it doesnt
#2770 [17:09] <kxcabrera> OKay, I'll try
#2771 [17:09] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, can you pastebin the error?
#2772 [17:09] <kxcabrera> What is mcpatcher?
#2773 [17:09] <haha7isaboss> tno error
#2774 [17:10] <haha7isaboss> i'll do errorreport though
#2775 [17:10] <haha7isaboss> mcerror*
#2776 [17:10] <lutzee> kxcabrera, its a tool for getting an error report
#2777 [17:10] <lutzee> there should be a link
#2778 [17:10] <haha7isaboss> http://pastebin.com/hFdAAAE0
#2779 [17:11] <IxCHOOSExU> How can I get Minecraftv for browser to work?
#2780 [17:11] <haha7isaboss> this has happened twice before, but each time it just worked after i clicked the launcher a ton of times (over the course of days and/or weeks)
#2781 [17:11] <lutzee> gah haha7isaboss er the errorlog failed to start the jar :/
#2782 [17:12] <lutzee> IxCHOOSExU, why would you need that? the game should run better from the launcher
#2783 [17:12] <haha7isaboss> what?
#2784 [17:12] <haha7isaboss> what od you mean by 'the error log failed to start the jar'?
#2785 [17:13] <kxcabrera> Do I have to download mcpatcher? I do not see the link.
#2786 [17:13] <slowfi> it sounds crazy to make minecraft run in the browser. my laptop cannot run minecraft at the same time as any browser. I know that classic minecraft was run in the browser. I wouldn't even try
#2787 [17:13] <lutzee> kxcabrera, you should not need it you can get a crash report without it read this carefully http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2788 [17:13] <slowfi> unless you're a masochist
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#2792 [17:15] <kxcabrera> I have a Mac. So I was looking under the Mac OSX section and #1 says to open mcpatcher.
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#2794 [17:15] <lutzee> kxcabrera, oh right,
#2795 [17:15] <ctingle18> os it up yet?
#2796 [17:15] <lutzee> Sigh it asumes you know what you are doing as you own a mac >.>
#2797 [17:15] <IxCHOOSExU> im back and my lancher is being retarded so i want to play in browser
#2798 [17:15] <haha7isaboss> lutzee what do you mean the error log failed to start the jar
#2799 [17:16] <ctingle18> MINECRAFT IOS BAK UP
#2800 [17:16] <Kealper> ctingle18: we know....
#2801 [17:16] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, er try another method for getting an error report
#2802 [17:17] <haha7isaboss> ok
#2803 [17:17] <haha7isaboss> mcpatcher wont work though
#2804 [17:18] <IxCHOOSExU> Is there a way to get minecraft browser version to work?
#2805 [17:18] <binkster> i'm here Smanly!
#2806 [17:18] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, try one of these methods http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2807 [17:18] <Smanly> binkster, :D. one sec. Just gotta upload it.
#2808 [17:18] <binkster> talright awesome thank you
#2809 [17:18] <slowfi> buy a super powerful computer
#2810 [17:19] <kxcabrera> Okay.. so what would the error report do?
#2811 [17:19] <Smanly> binkster, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41085348/r.-1.0.mcr <-almost done
#2812 [17:20] <binkster> ok so where do i put this file Smanly
#2813 [17:20] <Smanly> in the region folder
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#2815 [17:20] <binkster> ok and i chose to replace it correct?
#2816 [17:20] <glenn> tells me i need java installed
#2817 [17:20] <Smanly> Yes, but you may want a copy of it if things go bad.
#2818 [17:21] <glenn> enable java in ubunto
#2819 [17:21] <glenn> how
#2820 [17:21] <binkster> alright got it
#2821 [17:21] <glenn> anyone
#2822 [17:22] <lutzee> glenn, one minute
#2823 [17:22] <lutzee> glenn, follow this guide http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
#2824 [17:23] <binkster> ok Smanly, gonna see if it worked
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#2826 [17:23] <Smanly> :D
#2827 [17:24] <Dan> auth servers are up
#2828 [17:24] <haha7isaboss> http://pastebin.com/000MgNpJ
#2829 [17:24] <Smanly> slowpoke.jpg
#2830 [17:25] <binkster> Samnly, the error is still ethere :(
#2831 [17:25] <binkster> i mean smanly
#2832 [17:25] <Smanly> Wat
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#2834 [17:25] <Smanly> how?
#2835 [17:25] <binkster> i dont get it either
#2836 [17:25] <kxcabrera> Hello?
#2837 [17:25] <Smanly> one sec. maybe I gave you the wrong file
#2838 [17:25] <Smanly> ?
#2839 [17:25] <binkster> i put the file in the regions folder of the work, copied and replaced it and the chunk was still missing
#2840 [17:25] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, 1.2.5?
#2841 [17:25] <binkster> i think you might have cause i thought it was supposed to be a .mca file
#2842 [17:26] <haha7isaboss> yeah
#2843 [17:26] <IxCHOOSExU> How do i get minecraft browser to work? Im despret
#2844 [17:26] <haha7isaboss> i have some servers that arent yet updated
#2845 [17:26] <kxcabrera> I think I got the report, lutzee.
#2846 [17:26] <Smanly> .mrc?
#2847 [17:26] <lutzee> kxcabrera, pastebin.com
#2848 [17:26] <lutzee> mca = new format mcr= old format
#2849 [17:26] <binkster> smanly you gave me a .mcr
#2850 [17:26] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, okay force update
#2851 [17:26] <Smanly> yeah, thats right. one sec.
#2852 [17:27] <binkster> ok
#2853 [17:28] <kxcabrera> do I click submit after I pasted the error report?
#2854 [17:28] <Smanly> Oh, wait. What. hold on. I see .mca and .mcr. This http://dinnerbone.com/minecraft/tools/coordinates/ says "r.-1.0.mcr"
#2855 [17:28] <slowfi> txCHOOSE it's crazy to play minecraft in the browser. I can't do it. And I doubt many others can
#2856 [17:28] <lutzee> kxcabrera, yes
#2857 [17:28] <binkster> it does. well you gave me the .mcr can you just upload the entire new world file?
#2858 [17:29] <lutzee> Smanly, he needs the .mca file
#2859 [17:29] <kxcabrera> Okay, now what?
#2860 [17:29] <IxCHOOSExU> is minecraft browser even a posibal solotion to my slow computer
#2861 [17:29] <binkster> Ya i thought i needed the .mca one too
#2862 [17:29] <Smanly> Ok https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41085348/r.-1.0.mca binkster
#2863 [17:29] <binkster> awesome let's try this one
#2864 [17:29] <IxCHOOSExU> is minecraft browser ever posibal to do?
#2865 [17:30] <slowfi> txCHOOS no. son't waste time on that option
#2866 [17:30] <slowfi> err don't
#2867 [17:30] <lutzee> kxcabrera, copy the link to it here
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#2869 [17:31] <kxcabrera> http://pastebin.com/LT1JhyNa
#2870 [17:31] <lutzee> IxCHOOSExU, the browser version will run worse on your computer if it is slow
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#2872 [17:31] <IxCHOOSExU> my luncher is super glitchy
#2873 [17:32] <lutzee> kxcabrera, odd, that shouldn't happen, have you messed with the keyboard key allocation at all?
#2874 [17:32] <kxcabrera> ? Nope, don't think so.
#2875 [17:33] <lutzee> hmm i don't know why that would happen
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#2877 [17:33] <binkster> Smanly...IT WORKED!!
#2878 [17:34] <Smanly> Hooray!
#2879 [17:34] <lutzee> kxcabrera, what version of java do you have installed?
#2880 [17:34] <binkster> Thanks man so much for all your help
#2881 [17:34] <lutzee> binkster, yey :D
#2882 [17:34] <Smanly> My pleasure, Glad it worked!
#2883 [17:34] <binkster> no all i got to do is add the 1.3 items and im don
#2884 [17:34] <kxcabrera> let me check real quick..
#2885 [17:34] <Smanly> Yep.
#2886 [17:34] <binkster> thank you to lutzee, i know you have been here this whole time
#2887 [17:34] <binkster> i will brb gonna mess around with it
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#2889 [17:35] <slowfi> isn't there a way to launch minecraft from the commandline without the help of a launcher?
#2890 [17:36] <IxCHOOSExU> Wow i feel stupid now cause i just hade forge on the whole time causeing my minecraft to be glitchy sorry for wasting your time bye
#2891 [17:36] <IxCHOOSExU> Yey now i dont need browser verson
#2892 [17:36] <slowfi> something like javax mumble foo
#2893 [17:36] <lutzee> slowfi, you can't log into servers if you do
#2894 [17:36] <IxCHOOSExU> bye
#2895 [17:37] <Smanly> You wont be logged in*
#2896 [17:37] <lutzee> Smanly, hush ;)
#2897 [17:37] <kxcabrera> Well, it says that I'm up to date. it says Macs have their own version of Java so I can't see the version.
#2898 [17:37] <Smanly> :P
#2899 [17:38] <slowfi> I'm a bit unclear on what the launcher does
#2900 [17:38] <lutzee> kxcabrera, yeah ignore that, they still have to run off the same java version even if they are built only for macs
#2901 [17:38] <lutzee> slowfi, it logs you into the auth servers, allowing you to connect to servers that have online-mode=true
#2902 [17:38] <lutzee> (which is most)
#2903 [17:39] <kxcabrera> Okay, so what do I do now?
#2904 [17:39] <haha7isaboss> lutzee sorry i was playing the piano for my grandma. what did you say the solution was?
#2905 [17:39] <Smanly> You could probably login through the commandline somehow,
#2906 [17:41] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, er have you installed mods? i can't remember
#2907 [17:41] <haha7isaboss> by the way force update wont work. it said fatal error (4): ... retrieving lwjgl_util.jar 18%
#2908 [17:41] <haha7isaboss> yes i have. btu they worked fine earlier today
#2909 [17:41] <haha7isaboss> no new mods were installed
#2910 [17:41] <kxcabrera> I don't have any haha I couldn't figure out how to do it.
#2911 [17:42] <lutzee> Smanly, not possible as the launcher deals with the authing then passes the data to the game
#2912 [17:42] <Smanly> lutzee, hush ;)
#2913 [17:42] <lutzee> You'd have to write out an auth command, which is basically the whole launcher
#2914 [17:42] <Smanly> ^ yeah see? its possible!
#2915 [17:42] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, force updating will be the breaking thing, as it will download you 1.3
#2916 [17:43] <lutzee> Smanly, it's easier to use a launcher ;)
#2917 [17:43] <Smanly> Says you.
#2918 [17:43] <Elystus> What is happening?
#2919 [17:43] <Elystus> I just finished with death
#2920 [17:43] <Smanly> We are making a new game, Elystus.
#2921 [17:43] <Elystus> Oh
#2922 [17:43] <Smanly> It is just like Minecraft, only command based entirely
#2923 [17:43] <Elystus> lets name it cimemraft
#2924 [17:43] <Smanly> Hmm
#2925 [17:44] <Elystus> commandcraft?
#2926 [17:44] <Smanly> I was thinking^
#2927 [17:44] <Elystus> wait... batchcraft
#2928 [17:44] <haha7isaboss> but lutzee it had an error
#2929 [17:44] <haha7isaboss> fatal error (4):
#2930 [17:44] <Smanly> Only hackers use batches
#2931 [17:44] <Smanly> Thats not the error.
#2932 [17:44] <haha7isaboss> then what is
#2933 [17:44] <kxcabrera> I GOT IT.
#2934 [17:45] <kxcabrera> I checked the controls and someone changed one of them. I set it back to the default
#2935 [17:45] <kxcabrera> it's working now.
#2936 [17:45] <kxcabrera> Thanks lutzee!
#2937 [17:46] <Smanly> ??> haha7isaboss pastebin
#2938 [17:46] <VoxelHead> haha7isaboss: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2939 [17:46] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, something is blocking the downloads
#2940 [17:46] <haha7isaboss> What do you think it is lutzee?
#2941 [17:46] <Elystus> Smanly: I use batches when I am too lazy to C++.
#2942 [17:46] <Elystus> and it is possible in a batch file
#2943 [17:47] <Smanly> Haker!
#2944 [17:47] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, what antivirus do you use?
#2945 [17:47] <haha7isaboss> im on mac, i have no idea
#2946 [17:47] <Elystus> >_> You know >_> Hides the piles of passwords
#2947 [17:47] <lutzee> ah..
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#2949 [17:47] <Smanly> lol
#2950 [17:47] <lutzee> Elystus, mac + fatal error 4 and not downloading the game, was there a solution to that?
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#2952 [17:47] <Drew> Hello?
#2953 [17:48] <Smanly> Hi?
#2954 [17:48] <lutzee> hello Drew
#2955 [17:48] <Elystus> lutzee: demo or full game?
#2956 [17:48] <haha7isaboss> full game
#2957 [17:48] <Drew> My Minecraft has the error Cant conect to Minecraft.net. Im Premium
#2958 [17:48] <lutzee> !login
#2959 [17:48] <lutzee> hmm
#2960 [17:48] <Elystus> I am guessing you don't have an antivirus...
#2961 [17:48] <Elystus> so that isn't the issue...
#2962 [17:49] <Smanly> How long ago diod you try, Drew ?
#2963 [17:49] <Elystus> Drew: Anything odd about the launcher?
#2964 [17:49] <lutzee> Like the top half being grey
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#2966 [17:49] <Elystus> also how long ago did you try. (as Smanly asked)
#2967 [17:49] <Drew> Today And around the login part it is black
#2968 [17:49] <Smanly> Today, when?
#2969 [17:49] <Elystus> ??> Drew win/!
#2970 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Drew: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2971 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Drew: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2972 [17:50] <lowlf> its been almost a week sense ive updated my server to minecraft and it still says outdated what should i do?
#2973 [17:50] <Smanly> More detail, lowlf.
#2974 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> lowlf: Could yo be more specific?
#2975 [17:50] <lutzee> lowlf, where does it say outdated?
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#2977 [17:50] <lowlf> im sorry
#2978 [17:50] <lowlf> when i go onto my multiplayter server
#2979 [17:50] * lutzee suspects craftbukkit
#2979 [17:51] <lowlf> i click to join one
#2980 [17:51] <lowlf> and it says outdated
#2981 [17:51] <Smanly> What version is your client and server?
#2982 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> when you say 'my server' - is it _your_ server?
#2983 [17:51] <lowlf> no clue
#2984 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> or just one you play on?
#2985 [17:51] <lowlf> no
#2986 [17:51] <lowlf> the one i play on
#2987 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/recentupdate
#2988 [17:51] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#2989 [17:51] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#2990 [17:51] <lowlf> the hunger games type server
#2991 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Talk to the server admin
#2992 [17:52] <lowlf> how long would it take them to update a server
#2993 [17:52] <haha7isaboss> lutzee downloaded a new miencraft folder (deleted teh old one, minus saves and servers.dat) but it still isnt working
#2994 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> A competent admin? About 40 seconds
#2995 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> Most admins? Weeks.
#2996 [17:52] <lowlf> voxelhead
#2997 [17:52] <lowlf> i never said you did
#2998 [17:52] <lowlf> did i
#2999 [17:52] <lowlf> ?
#3000 [17:52] <lutzee> lowlf, VoxelHead is a bot
#3001 [17:52] <Smanly> lol
#3002 [17:52] <haha7isaboss> lutzee I*
#3003 [17:53] <Smanly> Hokay
#3004 [17:53] <Drew> Thank You So Much It Worked!!!
#3005 [17:53] <lutzee> I haven't seen the ! problem in a fair while
#3006 [17:53] <Drew> See Ya!
#3007 [17:54] <Elystus> lutzee: special char one?
#3008 [17:54] <lutzee> Elystus, yeah
#3009 [17:54] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, i don't own a mac, i don't know how they work
#3010 [17:54] <Elystus> same here.
#3011 [17:55] <Elystus> It could be a hosts file issue.
#3012 [17:55] <Elystus> no idea where a macs hosts file is though >_>
#3013 [17:55] <haha7isaboss> darn..... so no one has a solution? like i said, this has happened twice before
#3014 [17:55] <lutzee> ?? mac/hosts
#3015 [17:55] <VoxelHead> mac/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#3016 [17:55] <VoxelHead> mac/hosts: From the finder toolbar, search for the following item: "/private/etc/hosts". Open that file in the text editor, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#3018 [17:55] <Guest__> Ely
#3019 [17:55] <lutzee> Elystus, voxel does though ;)
#3020 [17:55] <Deathknight50> Ely
#3021 [17:55] <Elystus> Yes?
#3022 [17:55] <Deathknight50> can u help me change something quickly?
#3023 [17:56] <Deathknight50> on teamvieweR?
#3024 [17:56] <Elystus> sure
#3025 [17:56] <Deathknight50> Thanks :)
#3026 [17:57] <haha7isaboss> http://pastebin.com/sbb1gWRa
#3027 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> >Build Boat out of Birch Wood >Crash and explodes >Get back Oak Wood
#3028 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> >Build Boat out of Birch Wood >Crash and explodes >Get back Oak Wood
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#3030 [17:59] <Dark``> Can you get mushroom biomes in the xbox version of minecraft?
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#3033 [18:00] <Smanly> I dont think so, Dark`` . We dont really deal with the Xbox version though.
#3034 [18:01] <Dark``> ah okay thx
#3035 [18:01] <haha7isaboss> hello? you guys get the pastebin?
#3036 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: TIL Oak is Sweedish for 'wet Birch'.
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#3038 [18:02] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, seems fine
#3039 [18:02] <haha7isaboss> mmm
#3040 [18:03] <Ashalmighty1> hi i need help, when i try to join a multiplayer server it keeps giving me this error "connection lost internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset" how can i fix this.
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#3042 [18:03] <lutzee> Ashalmighty1, chances are the server is still running 1.2.5 and you have updated to 1.3.1
#3043 [18:04] <Ashalmighty1> no i haven't updated as of yet, im still running 1.2.5
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#3045 [18:05] <lutzee> does this happen with all servers?
#3046 [18:05] <Ashalmighty1> yes it dose
#3047 [18:05] <lutzee> hmm
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#3049 [18:06] <haha7isaboss> lutzee do you guys have any other ides?
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#3051 [18:06] <lutzee> can you connect to s.nerd.nu? Ashalmighty1
#3052 [18:06] <Deathknight50> ely is best
#3053 [18:06] <Elystus> ;)
#3054 [18:06] <Ashalmighty1> i will try for you now.
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#3057 [18:07] <haha7isaboss> Please help me! :'(
#3058 [18:08] <Ashalmighty1> nope it gave me a new error "connection lost internal exception java.net.sockettimeoutexception read timed out"
#3059 [18:08] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, like i said, i don't own a mac, i don't know where the problem could lie
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#3061 [18:08] <lutzee> Ashalmighty1, do you know your quoted internet speed?
#3062 [18:08] <Ashalmighty1> yes its 10mbps
#3063 [18:09] <haha7isaboss> well is there like a mac miencraft help channel?
#3064 [18:09] <lutzee> haha7isaboss, here there are some mac users
#3065 [18:09] <Elystus> haha7isaboss: No, sometimes a person that knows macs comes around
#3066 [18:09] <Elystus> such as wug or Scott
#3067 [18:09] <lutzee> but i'm not one of them
#3068 [18:09] <gogogoluke> i have a mac
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#3070 [18:09] <lutzee> Ashalmighty1, that should be fast enough
#3071 [18:10] <gogogoluke> im using a mac
#3072 [18:10] <haha7isaboss> Gogo my minecraft has crashed without a crash error. currently no mods are installed. this has happened 3 times before
#3073 [18:10] <haha7isaboss> 2 times*
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#3075 [18:11] <Ashalmighty1> thats what i thought, but ive never been able to connect to a sever since i bought minecraft 6 months ago.
#3076 [18:11] <gogogoluke> hmmm
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#3078 [18:11] <gogogoluke> try force update
#3079 [18:12] <haha7isaboss> nope already tried
#3080 [18:12] <haha7isaboss> it only downloads bin
#3081 [18:12] <gogogoluke> my internet speed is 25 mbps
#3082 [18:12] <Helix512> anyone have a replacement plugin that woudl replace passwordprotect. it only lets people log on to my server with a presetup passowrd. i have tried authme authme reloaded and xauth none either work or work the way i need them to. thanks.
#3083 [18:12] <lutzee> Ashalmighty1, you might want to check that you are getting the full quoted speed, you can test at speedtest.net
#3084 [18:12] <superkabii> Helix512, #bukkit
#3085 [18:12] <lutzee> Helix512, you want to ask in #bukkit for plugin support
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#3087 [18:12] <Helix512> ok ty
#3088 [18:12] <herkgerk> GUYS!
#3089 [18:13] <herkgerk> I need help with the /pex promote [name] [group] command ASAP!
#3090 [18:13] <lutzee> herkgerk, #bukkit
#3091 [18:13] <Ashalmighty1> yes i have the speed test app on my iPhone and its saying i have 10.4mbps download speed
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#3093 [18:13] <herkgerk> eh?
#3094 [18:13] <herkgerk> k
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#3099 [18:18] <prototype151> hola
#3100 [18:18] <prototype151> hola
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#3102 [18:19] <Ashalmighty1> do you think i should update to the new version of minecraft
#3103 [18:20] <Daniel> i have a quick question i brought the game with a credit card and we still dont have the game that was on friday it said i am not preium
#3104 [18:20] <prototype151> You bought it?
#3105 [18:20] <prototype151> And yes Ash, Most servers are updated
#3106 [18:20] <prototype151> If you are not premium then you did not buy it.
#3107 [18:21] <lutzee> Daniel, what's your minecraft user name?
#3108 [18:21] <Ashalmighty1> ok thanks i will try that and if i still can't join any serves then i will just stick to single player lol
#3109 [18:21] <Daniel> danielrust10
#3110 [18:21] <lutzee> !paid danielrust10
#3111 [18:21] <prototype151> You need to be the right Update for the server you are playing on
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#3113 [18:21] <prototype151> Most will be the newest version
#3114 [18:22] <lutzee> Daniel, check your creditcard statement and make sure the payment has gone through, they are often blocked as they are international payments (for fraud protections)
#3115 [18:22] <Ashalmighty1> i was joining a 1.2.5 server, and i running 1.2.5
#3116 [18:22] <Daniel> it charge it
#3117 [18:22] <prototype151> Ya well they probably updated
#3118 [18:22] <prototype151> So you need to to
#3119 [18:22] <Daniel> that why i am wondering
#3120 [18:23] <prototype151> Craftbukkit 1.3.2 is out
#3121 [18:23] <Ashalmighty1> ok thanks for the help.
#3122 [18:24] <Daniel> so what can i do if it didnt give me a id
#3123 [18:24] <Daniel> so what can i do if it didnt give me a id
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#3126 [18:24] <Daniel> from purchase i did it by credit
#3127 [18:24] <lutzee> Daniel, you might want to contact your bank and make sure it did, and if it did, get a transaction ID from them and submit a support request here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3128 [18:24] <prototype151> What do you mean an Id?
#3129 [18:24] <lutzee> Transaction ID
#3130 [18:25] <prototype151> Lol, Dont worry they will get back in... A FEW MONTHS ;)
#3131 [18:25] <lutzee> I believe those sorts of problems get pushed to the top off the list
#3132 [18:25] <Daniel> k becauuse i put the email as my and it didnt even sent me a statement for it
#3133 [18:26] <prototype151> Ya but tis still goning to take a long time
#3134 [18:26] <prototype151> I am still waiting on a response for my account
#3135 [18:26] <prototype151> I am unable to get on. I got hacked
#3136 [18:27] <lutzee> prototype151, you supplied a transaction ID with the request?
#3137 [18:27] <JohnEBH> prototype151, What makes you say you got hacked?
#3138 [18:27] <prototype151> I got hacked. Thats what makes me say it
#3139 [18:27] <prototype151> lawls
#3140 [18:28] <JohnEBH> prototype151, As in you can't login with the password you used and you've tried doing password recovery hacked?
#3141 [18:30] <Smanly> It was migrated not by him,
#3142 [18:30] <binkster> Alright Smanly all is good, thank you again
#3143 [18:30] <prototype151> Lol sup sman
#3144 [18:30] <Smanly> No problem! Glad it worked.
#3145 [18:30] <binkster> talk to you later
#3146 [18:30] <Smanly> Hey.
#3147 [18:30] <Smanly> Adios
#3148 [18:30] <binkster> ya?
#3149 [18:30] <binkster> o alright bye!
#3150 [18:30] <Smanly> lol
#3151 [18:32] <Smanly> What, I'm banned from #minecraf?
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#3153 [18:34] <Elystus> Smanly: Are you using a browser based client?
#3154 [18:34] <Smanly> Wug: "Smanly|Away #minecraft :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel" What?
#3155 [18:34] <Smanly> Nok, Xchat.
#3156 [18:34] <lutzee> Smanly, you nickserv registered?
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#3158 [18:34] <Smanly> Yeah.
#3159 [18:34] <lutzee> you identified?
#3160 [18:34] <prototype151> whats nickserv register
#3161 [18:34] <Smanly> Um, yes?
#3162 [18:35] <axe> yes, need help with curser issues
#3163 [18:35] <lutzee> Smanly, do /ns identify to make sure
#3164 [18:35] <axe> There is a "lag" when we try to move using the mouse.
#3165 [18:35] <lutzee> prototype151, makes sure other uses don't take out nick names
#3166 [18:35] <Smanly> I guess not?
#3167 [18:35] <prototype151> lol axe...
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#3169 [18:35] <Smanly> Oh, I wasnt... What.
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#3173 [18:36] <Smanly|Awanly> Ok.... How does that make sense?
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#3175 [18:36] <Brandon__> Everytime i try to start it the screen goes black?
#3176 [18:36] <prototype151> Brandon
#3177 [18:36] <prototype151> Did you load any mods recently
#3178 [18:36] <Brandon__> no i havent
#3179 [18:37] <prototype151> Did you update
#3180 [18:37] <Brandon__> yes
#3181 [18:37] <prototype151> Do you have any mods currently
#3182 [18:37] <lutzee> Smanly|Awanly, #minecraft requires you to be identified with nickserv, keeps out all the spammers/idiots
#3183 [18:37] <Elystus> Brandon__: Generate us a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#3185 [18:37] <Smanly|Awanly> Ah, lol. I see. Thanks.
#3186 [18:37] <prototype151> Brandon, Do you have any texturepacks
#3187 [18:38] <prototype151> How to identify Lutz
#3188 [18:38] <Brandon__> Nopee not at the moment
#3189 [18:38] <Elystus> prototype151: it is better to just get an error report.
#3190 [18:38] <Elystus> Brandon__: Generate us a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#3191 [18:38] <prototype151> Brandon, Just delete your jar
#3192 [18:38] <lucy_> when I try to play in browser it come up with a message saying 'the applications digital signature cannot be verified. do you want to run the application?" I ticked alway trust and run and still doesnt work and comes u with a blank white screen, can anyone help?
#3193 [18:38] <prototype151> That should work. Being that you have nothing special in it
#3194 [18:38] <Elystus> prototype151: That only works in some cases. We need an error repoert to determin eht ecause.
#3195 [18:38] <prototype151> You neeed to download java lucy
#3196 [18:38] <Elystus> the*
#3197 [18:38] <sammoqazqwe> I'm not sure how this works so I'll just throw my question out. I keep spawning in total darkness and then it says that I fell out of the world.
#3198 [18:39] <prototype151> samm
#3199 [18:39] <Elystus> sammoqazqwe: On a server?
#3200 [18:39] <sammoqazqwe> yes
#3201 [18:39] <lucy_> Yeah someone said that before so I downloaded it.. didnt make a difference
#3202 [18:39] <prototype151> Out of the world means u passed the 64 blocks and u are in the void
#3203 [18:39] <prototype151> Make sure its updated to lucy
#3204 [18:39] <Elystus> this is commonly due to the server not having enough ram dedicated or the bandwidth not being strong enough.
#3205 [18:39] <lucy_> im alright with the client though that works fine :)
#3206 [18:40] <Elystus> That last message was directed at sammoqazqwe
#3207 [18:40] <prototype151> Uh, that shouldnt have anything to do with ram
#3208 [18:40] <lucy_> I updated it again today so Im not sure that its java maybe I need to update something else, but im not sure what
#3209 [18:41] <Elystus> prototype151: it can...
#3210 [18:41] <sammoqazqwe> I'm in singleplayer survival. it was working fine untill I died.
#3211 [18:41] <prototype151> Not really ely
#3212 [18:41] <Elystus> prototype151: The reason he is falling is because the chunk isn't loading
#3213 [18:41] <JohnEBH> lucy_, You probably want to reinstall Java.
#3214 [18:41] <prototype151> No you wouldnt fall then
#3215 [18:41] <prototype151> It just wouldnt load
#3216 [18:41] <Elystus> prototype151: Yea you would...
#3217 [18:41] <Smanly|Awanly> doesnt the nether have issues with the void stuff?
#3218 [18:41] <prototype151> No you wouldnt lol
#3219 [18:42] <Elystus> prototype151: I am not going to argue with you...
#3220 [18:42] <JohnEBH> Lack of ram would usually crash the server... Wouldn't it?
#3221 [18:42] <prototype151> thats fine. No need to argue with the smart guy anyways
#3222 [18:42] <Smanly|Awanly> If the chunk wasnt loading, the server wouldnt kill you.
#3223 [18:42] <lucy_> ill give it a go but it says im up to date on everything, thanks
#3224 [18:42] <prototype151> It might John
#3225 [18:42] <Elystus> sammoqazqwe: You said before that you were on a server. Which are you on, a server or an ssp map?
#3226 [18:42] <prototype151> *server rage*
#3227 [18:43] <JohnEBH> lucy_, What browser are you using?
#3228 [18:43] <prototype151> Are there any warps on the server sammo
#3229 [18:43] <prototype151> or a faction home
#3230 [18:43] <prototype151> or your home
#3231 [18:43] <JohnEBH> lucy_, To play the web MC.
#3232 [18:43] <Elystus> JohnEBH: If it has very very little ram, it can crash. Often times it freezes and chunks don;t load when there is less ram.
#3233 [18:43] <Elystus> don't*
#3234 [18:43] <lucy_> oh and is there anyway of getting your stuff back from falling in lava?
#3235 [18:43] <prototype151> No
#3236 [18:43] <JohnEBH> lucy_, Not really.
#3237 [18:44] <prototype151> u can spawn it :D
#3238 [18:44] <prototype151> spawn it back ftw
#3239 [18:44] <lucy_> im just using the link from the minecraft website, Is there more? Ive only had minecraft for 2 days
#3240 [18:44] <Smanly|Awanly> Normally chunk load speed it HDD i/o and internet. Unless you have chunks loaded in memory.
#3241 [18:44] <prototype151> Lucy
#3242 [18:44] <JohnEBH> lucy_, I mean, are you using Internet Explorer, Firefox or Chrome to play it on the browser.
#3243 [18:44] <Elystus> Smanly|Awanly: hence why I said bandwidth as well :P
#3244 [18:44] <Smanly|Awanly> speed [is impacted by] HDD
#3245 [18:44] <JohnEBH> RAM Disk ftw!
#3246 [18:44] <lucy_> oh okay thanks, was unfortunate I had alot of stuff in my inventry
#3247 [18:44] <sammoqazqwe> Well I'm on a singleplayer offline map that isn't connected to the internet. There is a nether portal that I don't use because it doesn't work right. I'm next to my home.
#3248 [18:45] <lucy_> chrome
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#3251 [18:45] <lucy_> should i try soemthing else?
#3252 [18:45] <Elystus> sammoqazqwe: okay, so it's not a server. That changes things a bit. So, what exactly is happening.
#3253 [18:45] <JohnEBH> lucy_, You could do that instead of reinstalling java.
#3254 [18:46] <prototype151> You could slap the pig in the world...
#3255 [18:46] <prototype151> cuzz that will fix everything
#3256 [18:46] <lucy_> ill give it a go thanks.
#3257 [18:47] <sammoqazqwe> I died and almost everything is totaly black. I can barely see a little light. When I spawn it says that I fell off the world. I've respawned at least 7-10 times and it won't load or something
#3258 [18:48] <lucy_> just thought will it make a difference if im on a mac?
#3259 [18:48] <prototype151> YESSS
#3260 [18:48] <prototype151> Because macs are really just peices of shit
#3261 [18:49] <prototype151> Thats obviously your issue here
#3262 [18:49] <prototype151> I got solution
#3263 [18:49] <prototype151> step 1. Throw mac at window
#3264 [18:49] <lucy_> tbh they are, I was disapointed
#3265 [18:49] <prototype151> step 2. Sell on ebay for ripoff price
#3266 [18:49] <prototype151> step 3. No returns
#3267 [18:50] <prototype151> step 5. No one wil ever know step 4
#3268 [18:50] <prototype151> end of story
#3269 [18:50] <Elystus> prototype151: Keep it civil
#3270 [18:50] <prototype151> Or what lol
#3271 [18:51] <Elystus> prototype151: Be productive. Macs are not pieces of shit. They are a diffrent form of computer.
#3272 [18:51] <prototype151> Freedom of speech Ely. Get over it. I live in America
#3273 [18:51] <lucy_> but really there must be a way to play it on a mac?
#3274 [18:51] <prototype151> No... macs are peices of shit
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#3276 [18:51] <Elystus> lucy_: There is. I can attempt to help you. Just ignore prototype151.
#3277 [18:51] <prototype151> I used mine for a floatie in my pool
#3278 [18:51] <lutzee> prototype151, you are off topic in a way that is irritating others
#3279 [18:51] <prototype151> Lol....
#3280 [18:51] <prototype151> So what.
#3281 [18:51] <Elystus> If it continues you will be kicked
#3282 [18:51] <prototype151> I can be
#3283 [18:51] <prototype151> Go ahed
#3284 [18:52] * Wug kicked prototype151 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rototype151 :prototype151)
#3285 [18:52] <Elystus> I warned him :/
#3286 [18:52] * Wug o7
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#3287 [18:52] <Elystus> o/\o Wug
#3288 [18:52] <prototype151> lawls
#3289 [18:52] <prototype151> <3
#3290 [18:52] <Elystus> Are you going to be more civil this time?
#3291 [18:52] <Wug> prototype151: cool your jets
#3292 [18:52] <prototype151> No
#3293 [18:52] <prototype151> Im not
#3294 [18:52] <Wug> then youre going to take a longer vacation
#3295 [18:52] <prototype151> I have a propeller not a jet
#3296 [18:53] <Wug> this isnt a channel to argue about which operating systems are better than which others
#3297 [18:53] <prototype151> not an arguement. Its a fact.
#3298 [18:53] <Elystus> lucy_: Let me read the logs, then I will help.
#3299 [18:53] <Wug> no, its an opinion
#3300 [18:53] <prototype151> fact
#3301 [18:53] <Wug> derp
#3302 [18:54] <Elystus> lucy_: Are you trying to play classic or full version?
#3303 [18:54] <lucy_> basically this is the problem when I try to play in browser it come up with a message saying 'the applications digital signature cannot be verified. do you want to run the application?" I ticked alway trust and run and still doesnt work and comes u with a blank white screen
#3304 [18:55] <Wug> lucy_: is this classic
#3305 [18:55] <Elystus> ^
#3306 [18:55] <lucy_> the client works fine, yes full version, but online
#3307 [18:55] <Wug> minecraft doesnt work in browser on macs
#3308 [18:55] <lucy_> no full version
#3309 [18:55] <Wug> is there some reason you dont want to use the downloadable client
#3310 [18:55] <lucy_> ive only a
#3311 [18:55] <lucy_> ive only had it for 2 days
#3312 [18:56] <Wug> !client
#3313 [18:56] <Wug> grab the mac version and use that
#3314 [18:56] <lucy_> i have been using it but I want to play online
#3315 [18:56] <Wug> theyre both online
#3316 [18:56] <JohnEBH> Multiplayer?
#3317 [18:56] <lucy_> alike with others
#3318 [18:56] <Wug> one of them is just in browser and the other isnt
#3319 [18:56] <sammoqazqwe> So should I just go somewhere else?
#3320 [18:56] <Wug> sammoqazqwe: no hang on
#3321 [18:57] <sammoqazqwe> k
#3322 [18:57] <lucy_> but you cant go with other people unless you go on the online one apart from people you know
#3323 [18:57] <Wug> looks like you fell out of the map or something
#3324 [18:57] <Wug> lucy_: yes you can
#3325 [18:57] <sammoqazqwe> yep
#3326 [18:57] <Elystus> sammoqazqwe: Did you just fall out, or are you repeatedly falling out?
#3327 [18:57] <lucy_> can you?
#3328 [18:57] <Wug> lucy_: did you not try? :S
#3329 [18:57] <Wug> yes you can
#3330 [18:58] <sammoqazqwe> repeatedly
#3331 [18:58] <Wug> sammoqazqwe: i'd grab mcedit and move your spawn
#3332 [18:58] <Wug> did you use a bed?
#3333 [18:58] <lucy_> yeah like on multiplayer but ti doesnt connect
#3334 [18:58] <Wug> lucy_: what are you trying to connect to
#3335 [18:58] <sammoqazqwe> May I ask what mc edit is?
#3336 [18:58] <Wug> sammoqazqwe: its a map editor
#3337 [18:59] <sammoqazqwe> how do I get it?
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#3339 [18:59] <lydia_> hi
#3340 [18:59] <lucy_> now ive made this it wont let me log in at all :/
#3341 [18:59] <lydia_> can i have some help please? I'm new to Minecraft.
#3342 [19:00] <Elystus> what is your problem lydia_?
#3343 [19:00] <lydia_> I have Windows 7 laptop and I just bought Minecraft
#3344 [19:00] <Elystus> What exactly is happening though?
#3345 [19:00] <lydia_> I tried downloading it but when i enter my account name in it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#3346 [19:01] <lucy_> how do you go online on the client if you cant do it online?
#3347 [19:01] <lydia_> and I can't play online either(in the brouser)
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#3349 [19:01] <lydia_> its just a white screen when i try to play, any help?
#3350 [19:01] <Elystus> lydia_: Is there anything odd about the launcher? Grey and html in the newspanel or black at the bottom of the launcher?
#3351 [19:02] <lucy_> i have the same lydia, are you on a mac too?
#3352 [19:02] <Wercl> I've forgotten where to find the IP address so people can connect to my server. Halp.
#3353 [19:02] <Elystus> lucy_: She is on windows 7
#3354 [19:02] <Wug> lucy_: from what i hear minecraft.net has been having issues lately
#3355 [19:02] <Elystus> Wercl: Go to ipchicken.com
#3356 [19:02] <lydia_> I'm not sure what the launcher is supposed to look like,im new
#3357 [19:02] <lucy_> oh is there no way to play online atm?
#3358 [19:02] <Elystus> Wug: I thought Mollstam got the servers back up.
#3359 [19:03] <Wug> lucy_: there might not be
#3360 [19:03] <Wug> Elystus: no idea
#3361 [19:03] <lydia_> minecraft 1.3.1. then the news and some links. then login at the bottom corner.
#3362 [19:03] <Wug> I can login just fine
#3363 [19:03] <Elystus> lydia_: one moment, I shall get you a screenshot.
#3364 [19:03] <Wug> lucy_: you sure you didnt just mistype your password
#3365 [19:03] <lydia_> do you need my username?
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#3367 [19:03] <lucy_> oh right.. that doesn't sound good
#3368 [19:03] <lydia_> no, it didnt work yesterday either
#3369 [19:04] <henk5066> hello
#3370 [19:04] <Wercl> Elystus: I've gone to Ip config and Ipchicken and neither of those work for my friend
#3371 [19:04] <Elystus> lydia_: It would say user not premium or username/password invalid if username were a problem.
#3372 [19:04] <Wug> lydia_: make sure we're talking to you
#3373 [19:04] <Wug> lucy_: you sure you didnt just mistype your password
#3374 [19:04] <lucy_> no ive worked out that i have to use my email address now instead of my username, not sure why
#3375 [19:04] <Elystus> Wercl: Then you didn't prot forward correctly
#3376 [19:04] <henk5066> is there anywhere i can report a bug
#3377 [19:04] * sammoqazqwe [sammoqazqwe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3378 [19:04] <lydia_> it just says cant connect to minecraft.exe
#3379 [19:04] <sammoqazqwe> I still have the same problem.
#3380 [19:05] <lydia_> i've tried everything, online doesn't work either
#3381 [19:05] <henk5066> i have a bug is there anywhere i can report it
#3382 [19:05] <lydia_> i've never played it before, only the classic version worked
#3383 [19:05] <Elystus> lydia_: Does the launcher look like this? http://imgur.com/mGI7J
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#3385 [19:05] <Elystus> if there is black anywhere let me know.
#3386 [19:06] <xgingy> hi whenever i join my friends server i start falling in the void then lag out
#3387 [19:06] <lutzee> nice email address ;)
#3388 [19:06] <Wug> sammoqazqwe: you tried to move your spawn?
#3389 [19:06] <Elystus> original right?
#3390 [19:06] <xgingy> yes
#3391 [19:06] <Wug> closed minecraft, moved spawn, reopened minecraft?
#3392 [19:06] <lucy_> on the minecraft server do you have to add a server or something? i've only ever played single player
#3393 [19:06] <Wug> xgingy: sounds misconfigured to me
#3394 [19:06] <lydia_> YES! exactly the same but it doesnt have the minecraft logo at the bottom its just black
#3395 [19:07] <sammoqazqwe> Where can I get mcedit. I can't download programs so is there another way to do it?
#3396 [19:07] <xgingy> it works for everyone else on the server
#3397 [19:07] <lucy_> and only had it for 2 days
#3398 [19:07] <Wug> lucy_: you need to know the address of a server
#3399 [19:07] <Elystus> lydia_: Well the black part is the problem
#3400 [19:07] <lydia_> what can i do?
#3401 [19:07] <lutzee> ??> lydia_ win/!
#3402 [19:07] <VoxelHead> lydia_: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#3403 [19:07] <Wug> xgingy: try disabling your firewall
#3404 [19:07] <VoxelHead> lydia_: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#3405 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> lydia_ win/!
#3406 [19:07] <Elystus> dammit lutzee, ninja'd me
#3407 [19:07] <xgingy> how do i do that..?
#3408 [19:07] <lucy_> this is what confuses me
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#3410 [19:07] <lutzee> ninja'd 2 people ;)
#3411 [19:07] <Wug> lucy_: try uberminecraft.com
#3412 [19:07] <Wug> its a server
#3413 [19:07] <lydia_> what does all this win/! mean??
#3414 [19:07] <Wug> enter that in the address box
#3415 [19:08] <lucy_> onkay thank you
#3416 [19:08] <Wug> lydia_: read the instructions
#3417 [19:08] <lucy_> okay*
#3418 [19:08] <Elystus> ??>> lydia_ win/!
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#3420 [19:08] <lutzee> lydia_, we are making a bot say stuff so we don't have to type it out, read what voxelhead says
#3421 [19:08] <Elystus> Read that lydia_
#3422 [19:08] <sammoqazqwe> ok. Thanks. I might be back later
#3423 [19:08] <Wug> xgingy: do you know which one you have
#3424 [19:08] <Wercl> Any chance you know how to get me to my router's controls so I can port forward, Elystus?
#3425 [19:08] <lucy_> h I see
#3426 [19:08] <lydia_> ok
#3427 [19:08] <lucy_> oh i see, i think it works :)
#3428 [19:08] <Elystus> lutzee: Want to help wercl? I am going to get something to eat.
#3429 [19:09] <lutzee> Wercl, what router do you have? Brand and model
#3430 [19:09] <xgingy> which what i have...
#3431 [19:09] <lydia_> OMG!!!!!!
#3432 [19:09] <lucy_> oh I think i was chucked out...
#3433 [19:09] <lydia_> THE LOGO IS THERE ITS NOT BLACK ANYMORE
#3434 [19:09] <lydia_> HOPING IT WILLWORK
#3435 [19:09] <lucy_> how do you find other servers
#3436 [19:09] <lydia_> OMG YOU GUYS.
#3437 [19:09] <Wercl> Netgear Rangemax duo wireless WNRD3300
#3438 [19:09] <lydia_> IVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR HOURS
#3439 [19:10] <lydia_> IVE BEEN ON 10HOURS TODAY TRYING TOLOOK AT YOUTUBE TO FIX IT
#3440 [19:10] <lutzee> lydia_, no problem,
#3441 [19:10] <lydia_> AND YESTERDA
#3442 [19:10] <lydia_> OMG.
#3443 [19:10] <lutzee> but please less caps
#3444 [19:10] <xgingy> hello?
#3445 [19:10] <lydia_> sorry lol
#3446 [19:10] <lydia_> happy bye thank you xxxxxxxx
#3447 [19:11] <xgingy> wug what do you mean do you know which one i have
#3448 [19:11] * sammoqazqwe [sammoqazqwe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3449 [19:11] <sammoqazqwe> How can I get mcedit?
#3450 [19:12] <lutzee> here https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#3451 [19:12] <sammoqazqwe> k thanks
#3452 [19:12] <xHunterPro> is there something i can do when it says "Bad video card drivers!"
#3453 [19:13] <lutzee> sorry Wercl didn't see your message
#3454 [19:13] <Wercl> lutzee: no problem, I found my way to the router page
#3455 [19:13] <Wug> xgingy: there are different firewall softwares
#3456 [19:13] <Wug> do you know which one your computer has
#3457 [19:14] <Wug> or do you have a parent or something who knows
#3458 [19:14] <Wug> ??> xHunterPro win/dxdiag
#3459 [19:14] <VoxelHead> xHunterPro: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3460 [19:14] <VoxelHead> xHunterPro: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3461 [19:14] <xgingy> well if i go to my routers settings i think i can access firewalls
#3462 [19:14] <lutzee> Wercl, look here http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNDR3300/Minecraft_Server.htm
#3463 [19:14] <lutzee> it has a full guide for your router
#3464 [19:15] <Wercl> I already have the port forwarding set up from when I ran the server months ago
#3465 [19:15] <Wercl> But he still can't reach it
#3466 [19:15] <xgingy> okay i am looking at firewall settings
#3467 [19:15] <lutzee> Wercl, have you changed your firewall since then?
#3468 [19:16] <Wercl> Not to my knowledge
#3469 [19:16] <lutzee> !check 75.72.175.140
#3470 [19:16] <lutzee> Wercl, it seems to be working fine
#3471 [19:16] <xgingy> ?
#3472 [19:17] <Wercl> As soon as you did that check he was able to connect
#3473 [19:17] <Wercl> What spell did you cast?
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#3475 [19:18] <lutzee> Wercl, i don't know ;)
#3476 [19:18] <xgingy> wug i am looking at my firewall settings
#3477 [19:18] <Wercl> Hey, is there no way to change that only OP can change things in the spawn chunk?
#3478 [19:18] <Wug> xgingy: on your router?
#3479 [19:18] <Wug> this is probably a software issue on the computer
#3480 [19:18] <sammoqazqwe> I don't know how to use mc edit. are there Youtube tutorials or something?
#3481 [19:18] <xgingy> for the firewalls
#3482 [19:19] <xales> sammoqazqwe: Read the documentation
#3483 [19:19] <xales> Wercl: I believe you can set the spawn protection radius to 0 in server.properties
#3484 [19:19] <lutzee> wug you can't disable spawn protection on vanilla can you?
#3485 [19:19] <Wug> sammoqazqwe: all you need is to move your spawn
#3486 [19:19] <xgingy> tand yeah im running the newest mountain lion
#3487 [19:19] <Wug> lutzee: no idea
#3488 [19:19] <xHunterPro> whats the irc channel
#3489 [19:19] <Wug> xHunterPro: thats this
#3490 [19:19] <xgingy> wug yeah the firewall settings
#3491 [19:19] <lutzee> hmm i mean theres spawn radius option but i can't remember if that was vanilla or not
#3492 [19:19] <sammoqazqwe> nevermind. It was just taking a long time to load.
#3493 [19:19] <xales> lutzee: It's vanilla, at least it is now
#3494 [19:19] <xHunterPro> ok
#3495 [19:19] <xHunterPro> http://pastebin.com/YGGVyhEi
#3496 [19:20] <Wug> xgingy: what OS are you on
#3497 [19:20] <Wug> mountain lion you said?
#3498 [19:20] <lutzee> xales, thanks
#3499 [19:20] <xHunterPro> there u go Vexelhead
#3500 [19:20] <xgingy> wug OS X version 10.8
#3501 [19:20] <Wercl> My server properties file does not appear to have an option for spawn radius
#3502 [19:20] <lutzee> oh my
#3503 [19:20] <Wercl> am I supposed to add it myself?
#3504 [19:20] <lutzee> that looks like an original standard optiplex
#3505 [19:21] <lutzee> xHunterPro, your computer is no where near the required spec to run minecraft as listed here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#3506 [19:22] <Wug> xHunterPro: you could try updating your graphics drivers from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9498&ProdId=1044
#3507 [19:22] <Wug> that version is 2 years newer than the one you have installed
#3508 [19:22] <lutzee> wug.. 512mb of ram in his PC..
#3509 [19:22] <Wug> might at least get it working
#3510 [19:22] <Wug> lutzee: ive run it on less
#3511 [19:22] <Wug> he'll need the 256M batch file
#3512 [19:22] <lutzee> aye
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#3514 [19:23] <Scott> hmm
#3515 [19:23] <xgingy> wug what do i do..?
#3516 [19:23] <Scott> I need to add a how to install java faq on osx 10.8
#3517 [19:23] <Wug> xgingy: you should ask scott
#3518 [19:23] <Scott> I can't really help unless it's something simple.
#3519 [19:23] <Wug> Scott: xgingy has osx 10.8 and can't connect to servers
#3520 [19:23] <Scott> Yeah I can't help.
#3521 [19:23] <xales> Wug: That GPU won't run Minecraft, eod.
#3522 [19:24] <Wug> you give up too easily
#3523 [19:24] <Scott> I have an appointment in a bit
#3524 [19:24] <Wug> xales: by all intents and purposes minecraft should never have run on the computer i ran it on
#3525 [19:24] <lutzee> xales, thats what i was thinking, however a really low end GPU and it will do fine (i know it's what i have)
#3526 [19:24] <Wug> but lo and behold
#3527 [19:24] <Wug> I was able to get to the menu and take screenshots
#3528 [19:24] <xgingy> so can nobody help?
#3529 [19:24] <Wug> xgingy: do other servers work
#3530 [19:25] <xgingy> i havnt tried
#3531 [19:25] <Wug> try.
#3532 [19:25] <xales> lutzee: it's not just really low end, it literally doesn't support a new enough OpenGL
#3533 [19:25] <xgingy> okay
#3534 [19:25] <lutzee> xales, no i mean, if adding a card that supports it (like the 4550 which i have in mine)
#3535 [19:25] <xales> lutzee: It'd probably be more cost-effective to just buy a new computer, with one that old :p
#3536 [19:26] <xgingy> yes other servers work
#3537 [19:26] <Wug> xgingy: then i have no idea
#3538 [19:26] <Wug> has that server ever worked before
#3539 [19:26] <lutzee> xales, depends on the person, i mean, i run of a P4 cpu :p (but i am getting a new PC soon)
#3540 [19:26] <Wercl> So about this spawn radius thing.
#3541 [19:27] <xgingy> yes.. for multiple weeks
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#3543 [19:27] <xales> Wug: He could be banned or iptables'd
#3544 [19:27] <xales> :p
#3545 [19:27] <lutzee> Wercl, in the server.properties file do you see an option called spawn-radius or similar, i think it's the first option
#3546 [19:28] <xgingy> :(
#3547 [19:28] <Wercl> No, my first option is allow-nether
#3548 [19:28] <Wug> xgingy: try force updating
#3549 [19:28] <Wug> if that doesnt work, try again tomorrow
#3550 [19:28] <xgingy> okay
#3551 [19:28] <Wug> it could just be a weird intermittent network issue that will eventually go away on its own
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#3553 [19:28] <xHunterPro> is there anything i can do to update it?
#3554 [19:29] <Wug> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9498&ProdId=1044
#3555 [19:29] <Wug> download and install that driver
#3556 [19:29] <Wug> either it will work or it wont
#3557 [19:29] <xHunterPro> it told me to contact the manufactorer
#3558 [19:29] <xHunterPro> so it didnt work
#3559 [19:29] <xales> Wug: itys
#3560 [19:29] <Wug> oh yeah dell
#3561 [19:29] <Wug> hang on
#3562 [19:29] <xgingy> its updating
#3563 [19:30] <xHunterPro> ok wug
#3564 [19:30] <Wug> xHunterPro: is it a laptop
#3565 [19:30] <xales> Wug: no
#3566 [19:30] <xHunterPro> no
#3567 [19:31] <xHunterPro> wait wug who are you talking to
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#3569 [19:32] <madalynn> wug are you still here
#3570 [19:32] <Wug> yes
#3571 [19:32] <xHunterPro> nopr
#3572 [19:32] <xHunterPro> no
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#3574 [19:32] <Wug> xHunterPro: can you find me your service tag
#3575 [19:32] <Wug> its probably on a sticker on the case somewhere
#3576 [19:33] <xHunterPro> well its my grandmas comp so idk but i will look
#3577 [19:33] <Wug> madalynn: do you need something
#3578 [19:34] <madalynn> yeah its xgingy sorry i disconnected
#3579 [19:34] <xHunterPro> f3vnr91
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#3581 [19:35] <xHunterPro> At my house i have a dell inspiron with vista
#3582 [19:35] <Wug> alright, the driver you have is the latest one on dells website
#3583 [19:35] <Wug> so let there be hax
#3584 [19:35] <Wug> download teamviewer
#3585 [19:35] <Wug> ??> xHunterPro teamviewer
#3586 [19:35] <VoxelHead> xHunterPro: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3587 [19:35] <VoxelHead> xHunterPro: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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#3589 [19:36] <xgingy> wug hi sorry
#3590 [19:37] <xHunterPro> is it something i can do my grandma is telling me NO
#3591 [19:37] <xHunterPro> sorry
#3592 [19:37] <Wug> xHunterPro: its perfectly fine
#3593 [19:37] <Wug> xgingy: you're just going to have to wait until it works
#3594 [19:37] <xHunterPro> where do i have to go
#3595 [19:38] <Wug> xHunterPro: download teamviewer
#3596 [19:38] <Wug> xHunterPro: download teamviewer
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#3599 [19:40] <xHunterPro> ok i ran it
#3600 [19:40] <xHunterPro> now what
#3601 [19:40] <Wercl> Question: can I make so other people can open my chests?
#3602 [19:41] <Wug> xHunterPro: you see on the window, the id and password?
#3603 [19:41] <Wug> send those to me via pm
#3604 [19:41] <Wug> use /msg wug <words go here>
#3605 [19:43] <haha7isaboss> IS anyone a mac user on here
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#3607 [19:43] <minimow777> hey
#3608 [19:43] <haha7isaboss> Wug are you a mac user?
#3609 [19:43] <minimow777> i need help with terrafirma craft
#3610 [19:44] <minimow777> is the build 47 f for 1.3.1 or 1.2.5
#3611 [19:44] <Wug> haha7isaboss: nope
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#3613 [19:44] <haha7isaboss> if its a mod go to a modding channel like #risucraft
#3614 [19:44] <haha7isaboss> darn it
#3615 [19:44] <Zaydene> So LAN isn't working for me, wat do
#3616 [19:44] <minimow777> this chat isnt about terrafirma craft
#3617 [19:44] <minimow777> ?
#3618 [19:44] <Zaydene> Same network, 3 different accounts, keep getting connection timeouts
#3619 [19:44] <minimow777> its the one linked in the page
#3620 [19:45] <xales> minimow777: Go to #tfcraft
#3621 [19:45] <xales> Zaydene: Are any of you using mods?
#3622 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> adtually, #direwolf20 is a better channel in regard to mods. #risucraft tends to be for the development of mods
#3623 [19:45] <xales> Also, connection timeout implies firewall.
#3624 [19:45] <Zaydene> I installed optifine on the other computers
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#3626 [19:45] <Zaydene> And it's launching through magic launcher
#3627 [19:45] <slowfi> I thought that channel was for risugami's mods
#3628 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, #tfcraft being most specific could well be best
#3629 [19:46] <haha7isaboss> they can still hlep wiht mods
#3630 [19:47] <Zaydene> xales: did you get that?
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#3632 [19:51] <xales> Zaydene: Sorry
#3633 [19:51] <xales> Some mods disable LAN mode
#3634 [19:54] <Zaydene> xales: I just tried joining through the regular launcher, and still had a connection timed out error
#3635 [19:55] <xales> Zaydene: Are you sure the server is "open to LAN" and any firewalls on the computer are disabled/
#3636 [19:55] <xales> ?*
#3637 [19:57] <Zaydene> Firewall on host has an exception, firewall on the other is disabled, and when I opened to lan it said
#3638 [19:58] <Zaydene> Local game hosted on [my internet ip]
#3639 [19:58] <Zaydene> Not a local ip
#3640 [19:58] <Zaydene> But the other computer still picks it up as lan
#3641 [19:59] <Zaydene> I tried running just a regular server using the software, and same thing is happening
#3642 [19:59] <xales> So, wait. It shows up in the server list automatically, but doesn't connect, right?
#3643 [20:00] <Zaydene> It shows up automatically on the other computers, correct
#3644 [20:00] <Zaydene> Just doesn't connect
#3645 [20:02] <xales> Zaydene: That would indicate a firewall issue.
#3646 [20:02] <xales> (The firewall on the host)
#3647 [20:03] <Zaydene> I guess I'll just turn it off for now
#3648 [20:03] <Zaydene> Hopefully it works, if not I'll be back >.>
#3649 [20:03] <Zaydene> Thanks a ton, xales
#3650 [20:04] <xales> yep
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#3652 [20:10] <ytayj> hey, anyone around?
#3653 [20:10] <xales> No, the other 176 people are just bots idling.
#3654 [20:10] <ytayj> :D
#3655 [20:10] <ytayj> hey, I've seen channels like that before.
#3656 [20:10] <ytayj> anyway
#3657 [20:11] <ytayj> does anyone know where I might find older versions of the minecraft.jar? I want to roll back to 1.2.5 for some mods.
#3658 [20:11] <xales> The only legal way to do it is if you have a backup of your own, or using MCNostalgia.
#3659 [20:11] <ytayj> there used to be a page on the wiki
#3660 [20:11] <ytayj> or
#3661 [20:11] <ytayj> there used to be links
#3662 [20:11] <ytayj> and now they're gone
#3663 [20:12] <xales> Yeah, because distributing the jar isn't legal, unless you are Mojang.
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#3665 [20:12] <xales> And they don't distribute older versions.
#3666 [20:12] <xales> MCNostalgia uses binary patches, so it's legal (because one requires an existing minecraft.jar in order to change versions)
#3667 [20:14] <qw0x> I am wondering if it is possible to change your minecraft username?
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#3669 [20:14] <xales> qw0x: No.
#3670 [20:14] <qw0x> Is there any way to contact mojang to get it changed?
#3671 [20:15] <xales> No.
#3672 [20:16] <qw0x> will there be a way in the future?
#3673 [20:16] <xales> Possibly.
#3674 [20:16] <Elystus> It is a possibility. But the current system does not support name changes.
#3675 [20:16] <qw0x> Do you have any information about this possibility that someone can send me to?
#3676 [20:17] <Elystus> qw0x: Nothing. THey havn't done anything with the idea yet.
#3677 [20:17] <xales> qw0x: There is no information other than "there may be a way to change your name in the future."
#3678 [20:17] <qw0x> :( that sucks
#3679 [20:17] <Elystus> It probably will be while. THey have so many other things to focus on.
#3680 [20:18] <Elystus> be a while* >_>
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#3682 [20:20] <Huggies> Hello, can anyone help me getting MODS started on a MAC
#3683 [20:21] <Elystus> Huggies: We don't support mods here. Go to #risucraft
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#3685 [20:21] <Generalcamo> I am trying to make a functional end portal in creative mode, how do I do that?
#3686 [20:22] <Wercl> I'm having an issue with chests on my server, can someone help?
#3687 [20:22] <xales> I am pretty sure you can't. Check the wiki.
#3688 [20:22] <xales> Wercl: What is the issue, specifically?
#3689 [20:22] <Wercl> I can open other people's chests, but they cannot open mine
#3690 [20:22] <Wercl> Don't want that to be the case.
#3691 [20:23] <jrisgotx> Hello I Resently purchased Minecraft for my computer and have run in to the problem of my computer being to old to run the game. Is there any way i can get an older version of the game that is playable on my computer?
#3692 [20:24] <xales> jrisgotx: No. If your computer is too old to run the game, then you just need to get a newer computer.
#3693 [20:24] <xales> Wercl: Are you using any mods/Bukkit?
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#3695 [20:24] <Wercl> Nope
#3696 [20:25] <xales> I can't think of any reason they wouldn't be able to open chests that you could.
#3697 [20:25] <jrisgotx> do you know what the required video card drivers are for the game?
#3698 [20:25] <xales> jrisgotx: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#3699 [20:25] <Wug> jrisgotx: whatever the most up to date ones are
#3700 [20:26] <Wug> graphics cards, any discrete card made after about 2006
#3701 [20:26] <Wug> and any of the newer intel processor graphics
#3702 [20:26] <xales> jrisgotx: You could take your computer to a local computer store and they may be able to help you upgrade the computer to meet the requirements. It may, however, just be cheaper/more cost-effective to buy a new computer.
#3703 [20:26] <Wug> (or, not and, you dont need both)
#3704 [20:26] <Wug> you should do this.
#3705 [20:26] <Baja177> I keep getting the "failed to login, bad login" error after I hit alt+f4 to close minecraft and tried to play SMP again.
#3706 [20:26] <Wug> they'll be able to help you pick a graphics card and install it
#3707 [20:26] <xales> Baja177: "Bad login" is generally "Incorrect username/password"
#3708 [20:27] <Wug> I think he means when connecting to servers
#3709 [20:27] <jrisgotx> Would a ChromeBook Be able to play minecraft if i bought one?
#3710 [20:27] <Baja177> I was able to log in to my account, it just won't let me connect to a server, yeah.
#3711 [20:27] <xales> jrisgotx: No.
#3712 [20:27] <Wug> do you have any other minecraft windows open?
#3713 [20:27] <Baja177> No.
#3714 [20:28] <jrisgotx> OK Thank you for your help :)
#3715 [20:28] <xales> jrisgotx: If you were able to gain root on it, possibly. But this is not something for non-tech-savvy users, and not something we can help with.
#3716 [20:28] <Baja177> I had hit alt+f4 earlier, so I think the server still has me registered as being online. Is there a way to fix this?
#3717 [20:28] <xales> Baja177: Have you tried turning it on and off again? (Your computer)
#3718 [20:28] <Baja177> Yes.
#3719 [20:28] <xales> Tried connecting to a different server?
#3720 [20:28] <Wug> Baja177: is it just one server or is it all of them
#3721 [20:29] <Baja177> All of them.
#3722 [20:29] <Ancient_Demise> Heya. Can I get help with mods here or another channel?
#3723 [20:30] <xales> Ancient_Demise: Depends on the mod; some mods have specific channels. Generally, #risucraft is a good place to go though.
#3724 [20:30] <Wug> Baja177: change your password?
#3725 [20:31] <Wug> then try again
#3726 [20:31] <Baja177> No, I just tried logging in again and it worked, I think the server that had me registered as being online restarted.
#3727 [20:31] <Ancient_Demise> Well I'm just trying to get them to run properly. Does mcpatcher work with mods that don't have specific install instructions?
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#3729 [20:31] <Wug> Baja177: change your password anyway.
#3730 [20:31] <Wug> because just do it.
#3731 [20:31] <Baja177> XD.
#3732 [20:31] <xales> Ancient_Demise: Mods with no specific install instructions just go in ~/.minecraft/mods , as zip files.
#3733 [20:32] <xales> Assuming you have a modloader.
#3734 [20:32] <Wug> xales: since when were you helpful
#3735 [20:32] <xales> Wug: since tomorrow
#3736 [20:32] <xales> :D
#3737 [20:32] <Baja177> Okay, I'll change my password. Thanks for yall's time.
#3738 [20:33] <jrisgotx> Do you know if minecraft will ever be available on ps3
#3739 [20:33] <xales> It will never.
#3740 [20:33] <xales> By the time it *could* be, the PS3 will be obsolete.
#3741 [20:33] <xales> (Or Sony will have gone out of business)
#3742 [20:33] <jrisgotx> ok Thank you
#3743 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft paid lots of money for an exclusive agreement.
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#3745 [20:39] <zaydene> xales, so I got it running, but every few minutes, the players disconnect, any insight?
#3746 [20:39] <xales> What error do they disconnect with?
#3747 [20:40] <Ancient_Demise> hm what about modloader? Do I need both Risugamis and SDK's? installed through patching the jar?
#3748 [20:41] <zaydene> xales they closed out too fast, but one person said "You have been disconnected", and when this happens I have to restart the map because they can't find it under lan
#3749 [20:41] <xales> Ancient_Demise: You should have only one or the other.
#3750 [20:42] <xales> zaydene: I'd need to full error message to offer any help.
#3751 [20:42] <zaydene> I'll let you know shortly
#3752 [20:46] <Ancient_Demise> lol I wish SDK's forum post wasnt so redundant then. It tells you to install modloadermp then modloader then Forge
#3753 [20:47] <xales> Ancient_Demise: ModloaderMP doesn't exist any more as far as I know; are you sure the post/mod is up to date?
#3754 [20:47] <ngc0202> why doesn't iron give xp?
#3755 [20:47] <xales> ngc0202: Because it doesn't.
#3756 [20:47] <Ancient_Demise> it says 1.3.1
#3757 [20:47] <ngc0202> xales: ...
#3758 [20:48] <xales> Ancient_Demise: Ah, well, I have no idea then. I guess it does still exist.
#3759 [20:48] <xales> ngc0202: Yes?
#3760 [20:48] <Ancient_Demise> lol
#3761 [20:48] <ngc0202> xales: You're not very helpful
#3762 [20:49] <xales> ngc0202: You're not asking questions that make any sense, or have answers. ._.
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#3764 [20:49] <ngc0202> xales: there had to have been some sort of logic
#3765 [20:49] <ngc0202> especially if coal gives xp
#3766 [20:49] <xales> ngc0202: You could try doing research, like reading the wiki.
#3767 [20:50] <ngc0202> I did look at the wiki
#3768 [20:50] <xales> If it didn't say anything, then there is no answer.
#3769 [20:50] <xales> Other than "because it doesn't"
#3770 [20:50] <ngc0202> That's not at all true
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#3772 [20:51] <xales> You're welcome to call Jens up on the phone and ask why that decision was made.
#3773 [20:51] <xales> Oh, wait, I don't think you know the number or want to pay international calling rate.
#3774 [20:51] <xales> So, nevermind. I guess that means there is, effectively, no answer.
#3775 [20:52] <ngc0202> No answer from you, maybe
#3776 [20:52] <ngc0202> Which is what you should've said
#3777 [20:52] <oldtopman> ngc0202: Is xales giving you a hard time?
#3778 [20:52] <xales> If the wiki doesn't know, and I don't know, then nobody knows.
#3779 [20:52] <oldtopman> What can I do for ye?
#3780 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> Iron doesn't give XP directly, because you also get XP from smelting it
#3781 [20:53] <jeff_> I cannot log into my account or purchase another account online! This registration is maddening! I can't remember our Username or password for our existing account and never get the promised email with the password and forgotten user name. no phone to call...where do I get help!!!!!!
#3782 [20:53] <ngc0202> DiskDaemon: I'll take that :)
#3783 [20:53] <ngc0202> oldtopman: Yes :(
#3784 [20:53] <oldtopman> ngc0202: What seems to be the issue?
#3785 [20:54] <Elystus> Throws his program at DiskDaemon: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
#3786 [20:54] <ngc0202> I was just curious why mining iron ore didn't give XP
#3787 [20:54] <Elystus> forgot to me >_>
#3788 [20:54] <ngc0202> and xales was being mean :(
#3789 [20:54] <xales> jeff_: If you can't purchase another account, that would be an issue to take up with your bank. If you can't login to your account, you should try using the correct email/username/password.
#3790 [20:54] <oldtopman> ngc0202: Well, about iron, I don't have much of an idea. Do you have any suggestions on where to look?
#3791 [20:54] <gv> A very large amount of experience can be collected while mining, sometimes into the hundreds of levels. Coal, lapis lazuli, redstone, diamond and emerald ore give you experience points. However, iron and gold ore don't give experience when mined to avoid easily getting xp from mining and placing the block constantly. However, smelting the ore blocks gives the experience.
#3792 [20:55] <gv> Straight from the wiki
#3793 [20:55] * DiskDaemon runs up a test environment
#3793 [20:55] <ngc0202> hoho
#3794 [20:55] <ngc0202> gv: What page?
#3795 [20:55] <gv> Experience
#3796 [20:56] <ngc0202> ??
#3797 [20:56] <gv> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Experience
#3798 [20:56] <ngc0202> I Ctrl + F'd "iron" there, missed it
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#3800 [20:56] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: HOld on, it is skipping somecode.
#3801 [20:56] <Elystus> Gotta fix it quickly
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#3803 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> right
#3804 [20:57] <Ancient_Demise> do the mods need to be in mods/ or mods/1.3.1/
#3805 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#3806 [20:57] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3807 [20:57] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#3808 [20:57] <xales> Ancient_Demise: Just in .minecraft/mods, unless there is a 1.3.1 folder already. Read the directions for whatever modloader you are using.
#3809 [20:58] <jeff_> I have no issue with my bank. I can't even advance in the online registration to pay!!! I'm asked to migrate my account and can't because I don't have the correct username or password.It tells me the email I use is already registered.
#3810 [20:58] <oldtopman> ngc0202: As for xales...shall I report him to a superior?
#3811 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh give xales a break, I didn't know either
#3812 [20:59] <ngc0202> :) I'll give him another chance
#3813 [20:59] <xales> jeff_: Then use the password recovery feature. If you want us to help you with buying another account, perhaps telling us what the problem with it is would be helpful...
#3814 [20:59] <oldtopman> ngc0202: If you're certain.
#3815 [20:59] <oldtopman> Have a nice evening
#3816 [20:59] <jeff_> I
#3817 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, there's already an account under that email
#3818 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to contact Mojang to get the account(s) straightened out
#3819 [21:01] <jeff_> I'm just been attempting for several hours to add the program on a new laptop and can't succeed because I don't know my username, password. I ask to have hints sent to my email, but never recieve an email!
#3820 [21:01] <xales> jeff_: Did you check your spam folder? Are you sure you used the right email?
#3821 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Please see: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#3822 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> You'll most likely need to contact Mojang directly through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3823 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> As we cannot do anything with account issues here.
#3824 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Another way is to type your email directly in to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
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#3826 [21:03] <jeff_> Nothing in my spam folder and I assume I'm using the right email, because your system say's it's already registered!
#3827 [21:03] <xales> jeff_: Read the article GreyVulpine linked to.
#3828 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> jeff_: Sorry, it's not our system. We're not associated with mojang.
#3829 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> We are random volunteers from all over the world, in this channel here who help people from the goodness of our hearts.
#3830 [21:04] <xales> DiskDaemon: Associated, but not affiliated, is more accurate. :p
#3831 [21:04] <xales> I..think.
#3832 [21:05] <xales> Yay legal terminology.
#3833 [21:05] <jeff_> That's cool of you guy's!!! You're all very kind.
#3834 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> noted :)
#3835 [21:05] <Elystus> Fixed it disk: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
#3836 [21:05] <Elystus> also found a few typos >_>
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#3838 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Can I also see the source code, so that I may try to test it more effectively?
#3839 [21:07] <MasterofEllusion> I need help with a bug i found in the game.
#3840 [21:07] <Elystus> sure
#3841 [21:07] <xales> MasterofEllusion: Care to elaborate?
#3842 [21:07] <Elystus> DiskDaemon,
#3843 [21:07] <Elystus> http://pastebin.com/p27HgbEp
#3844 [21:07] <MasterofEllusion> yes, i have had many rollbacks in which i lose items by the dozens.
#3845 [21:08] <MasterofEllusion> it happens when i put them in chests
#3846 [21:08] <xales> MasterofEllusion: Are you, or were you at any point, using mods?
#3847 [21:08] <MasterofEllusion> but only certain chests
#3848 [21:08] <MasterofEllusion> no
#3849 [21:08] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Btw, I left the sleep function for a future version of this I will release.
#3850 [21:08] <MasterofEllusion> i always play vanilla
#3851 [21:08] <xales> MasterofEllusion: There are a number of things that could cause that: bad install, corrupted world/chunks, failing storage media.
#3852 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be a known bug with this release http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#3853 [21:09] <xales> DiskDaemon: Oh, it is?
#3854 [21:09] <xales> :|
#3855 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> yep, use the magical Ctrl+F combination to search for chest :)
#3856 [21:09] <xales> lol
#3857 [21:09] <MasterofEllusion> lol
#3858 [21:10] <MasterofEllusion> is there a way that i can ensure that it won't happen?
#3859 [21:11] <xales> You could try this:
#3860 [21:11] <xales> ??> MasterofEllusion forceupdate
#3861 [21:11] <VoxelHead> MasterofEllusion: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3862 [21:11] <VoxelHead> MasterofEllusion: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3863 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> MasterofEllusion: Don't play with this version until a later one comes out that fixes the problem.
#3864 [21:11] <xales> Or that.
#3865 [21:11] <MasterofEllusion> lol
#3866 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> It's seems to be a multiplayer bug related to singleplayer now playing on a single-serving multiplayer server now
#3867 [21:12] <MasterofEllusion> i have a 1.2.5 bin on a different comp, i suppose i could copy paste that into the game.
#3868 [21:12] <MasterofEllusion> i have a 1.2.5 bin on a different comp, i suppose i could copy paste that into the game.
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#3870 [21:13] <MasterofEllusion> i was so looking forward to enderchests. :(
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#3872 [21:15] <MasterofEllusion> btw, i actually just recently reinstalled minecraft on this pc
#3873 [21:17] <NinjaKirby> Occuring recently actually momentarily happened to reinstall
#3874 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The program can't start because MSVCP100.dll is missing
#3875 [21:18] <MasterofEllusion> ooookkkkk......
#3876 [21:19] <MasterofEllusion> i just picked up about 3 stacks of black wool before quitting and now it's all back on the ground.
#3877 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Yep, that's definately a multiplayer-related issue
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#3881 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: There's a large multiply nested if/else structure in your code, resulting in 7 closing braces at the end of things.
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#3883 [21:25] <MasterofEllusion> is there a downgrade program for 1.3
#3884 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: You will be far better to extract the contents of each if/else block in to a function, and to then return isJava7() || isJava6() || ... because it uses lazy evaluation, and stops as soon as one of those functions returns a truthy value.
#3885 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#3886 [21:25] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#3887 [21:27] <noahcrawford> Hey. I was on earlier today, and was talking to luzee and a couple others about an odd problem I was having. I will make it short...At first my minecraft would not update/load. So I was sent a script to fix that. After many tries, I finally got it to load. But I had nothing there. All my saves, texture packs, EVERYTHING was gone.
#3888 [21:28] <MasterofEllusion> well, thanks guys, i'll watch and hope that this stuff is fixed soon, maybe reverse the "less world saving" thing.
#3889 [21:28] <xales> noahcrawford: Do you have any backups?
#3890 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> ^
#3891 [21:28] <MasterofEllusion> me?
#3892 [21:28] <MasterofEllusion> oh, nm
#3893 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> You can't get it back if you don't back it up.
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#3895 [21:29] <noahcrawford> @xales actually, i do. But the weird thing is, all the stuff is still in my .minecraft folder. it just doesn't show
#3896 [21:29] <xales> noahcrawford: Is it in the correct location in the .minecraft folder? How are you launching Minecraft?
#3897 [21:30] <noahcrawford> @xales Everything is in the right place, and im using the normal launcher
#3898 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Where exactly is .minecraft located?
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#3901 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: From the game menu, go to Textures and choose the button to open the texture folder pack. When you go up a folder you will find yourself in the .minecraft folder that the game is using.
#3902 [21:32] <noahcrawford> @diskDaemon I know how to get there without doing that, its just that everything is in the right place, but it doesnt show up
#3903 [21:32] <xales> noahcrawford: Use DiskDaemon's method, as Minecraft may not be using the same .minecraft you think it is.
#3904 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: That seems to imply that what you think is the location may not actually be the location that is used now.
#3905 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: Get to it via that option to open the texture pack folder, and be absolutely positive.
#3906 [21:33] <noahcrawford> appdata, roaming, .minecraft, has the bin, saves, everything, but i will still do it the text pack way anyway
#3907 [21:33] <bezaban> oh my.. sk89q is in here. Thanks for the good work if this alerts you :)
#3908 [21:34] <bezaban> wrong channel..
#3909 [21:34] <AmberK> lmao
#3910 [21:34] <bezaban> been modding his launcher all day :)
#3911 [21:34] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Forgot to multithread it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
#3912 [21:36] <noahcrawford> Ok, odd thing going on...When i access it through the text packs, nothing shows up. But when i do it normally, everything is fine. Maybe i can transfer than into the empty one?
#3913 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> I would say that it's due to not statically including such libraries in the compiled version.
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#3915 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: Yes, do that.
#3916 [21:36] <noahcrawford> ok, one sec
#3917 [21:37] <noahcrawford> @Greyvulpine Oh hey greyvulpine. i don't know if you remember me, but you have helped me out multiple times in the past. just noticed you were online, haha
#3918 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> noahcrawford: Is the new location in c:\program data\minecraft\...
#3919 [21:37] <lost> Help please, I have downloaded the game, but am unable to find where to play it.
#3920 [21:38] <lutzee> lost, if you downloaded the Minecraft.exe file just run that, log in with your account and it will start :)
#3921 [21:38] <MasterofEllusion> ok, to let you know, i have downloaded mcnostalgia and have downgraded to 1.2.5 and that has fixed the disappearing items
#3922 [21:38] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Did the new one I linked work?
#3923 [21:38] <MasterofEllusion> thanks again for your help
#3924 [21:38] <lost> I keep doing that, but I just end up back at the beginning page where I purchased.
#3925 [21:39] <xales> lost: You have to run the file you downloaded.
#3926 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Yes thanks
#3927 [21:39] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: \o/
#3928 [21:39] <lost> Yes, I keep doing that.
#3929 [21:39] <xales> It will run the game, not open minecraft.net
#3930 [21:39] <slowfi> is there a way to avoid suffocating in walls on multiplayer?
#3931 [21:40] <xales> slowfi: Avoid going in them. :)
#3932 [21:40] <MasterofEllusion> not that i know of
#3933 [21:40] <lost> I have downloaded twice, and run twice. Could there be something else I could try?
#3934 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I'm going to install the default java that IE lets you install when you go to java.com. It seems to be the x86 version being installed...
#3935 [21:40] <MasterofEllusion> or that
#3936 [21:40] <xales> lost: http://minecraft.net/play
#3937 [21:40] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Okay.
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#3939 [21:41] <noahcrawford> @diskdaemon Ok, i got all my saves, textpacks, etc. back. everything but my multiplayer...Thats ok, i will just look up the IP addresses
#3940 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: After installing that, your program still seems to be unable to detect any version of java on here
#3941 [21:41] <slowfi> I don't know how to suffocate in wall intentionally. it's a random bug of some smp servers which I want to avoid
#3942 [21:41] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Odd :/
#3943 [21:42] <noahcrawford> yeah.
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#3945 [21:42] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I will make a version that out puts the paths it is checking
#3946 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> good idea
#3947 [21:42] <noahcrawford> it just says something about searching for LANs now
#3948 [21:42] <Elystus> I should have done that from the start really
#3949 [21:44] <noahcrawford> Ok, thanks for the help. I'll be going now
#3950 [21:44] <noahcrawford> It's a shame I lost all my multiplayer server's IP's though, cause i dont remember one of them
#3951 [21:45] <noahcrawford> ok thanks, bye
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#3953 [21:50] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: okay https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
#3954 [21:50] <Elystus> it should output the files being checkede
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#3956 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Why am I getting a 404 error when trying to download that now?
#3957 [21:56] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
#3958 [21:57] <Elystus> that one work?
#3959 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be the same one, and it works^Hdownloads now
#3960 [21:58] <Elystus> okay, so you got it at least :/
#3961 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It seems that none of the x86 locations are being checked
#3962 [22:00] <Elystus> really?
#3963 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> really.
#3964 [22:00] <Elystus> I found the problem T_T
#3965 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> good
#3966 [22:01] <Elystus> I forgot to add a 32 on the 32 bit lines so it would call the right string
#3967 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: This might be a problem too std::string jre532 = "\\Java\\jre7\\bin\\java.exe";
#3968 [22:02] <Elystus> How would that be a problem?
#3969 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> Because it's checking the jre7 folder for Java 5
#3970 [22:03] <Elystus> Good catch. What was I thinking when i coded that part?
#3971 [22:04] <Elystus> Hopefully the final version I have to link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Java_fix.exe
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#3973 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> You say in the program that it is advised that I install 64-bit java, but no information is given about how that might be achieved
#3974 [22:06] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I was going to make an automatic downloader tonight.
#3975 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Minor spelling issue: "download the launcher to your desktop?." has no fullstop at the end.
#3976 [22:07] <Elystus> >_>
#3977 [22:07] <Elystus> fixed it, and the lack of punctuation on the next line if you agree
#3978 [22:07] <Elystus> also, having fun trying to mess with the input?
#3979 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: When I agree to the launcher being downloaded, there are two nearly identical messages. One asy that the minecraft launcher will be downloaded, and the other just after it says that the launcher will now be downloaded. Just the one message is enough.
#3980 [22:08] <Elystus> deleted the second one.
#3981 [22:08] <Elystus> download worked?
#3982 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> yep
#3983 [22:09] <Elystus> seems like everything is working like a charm then/
#3984 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> what the hell!
#3985 [22:10] <Elystus> ?!
#3986 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: You're too quick to the damned gate.
#3987 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It works like a charm when I find no further issues. Okay?
#3988 [22:11] <Elystus> Okay :)
#3989 [22:13] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#3990 [22:14] <Elystus> ?
#3991 [22:15] <Rikairchy> !
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#3994 [22:20] <Disori> Double op!
#3995 [22:21] <Elystus> It's cause Wug is super special
#3996 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: In several places you have the code say "this program fixes and issue that only occurs with Java"
#3997 [22:21] <Wug> ^^vv<><>ab
#3998 [22:22] <Wug> ba*
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#4000 [22:22] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: This "You will either need to update to a newer version of Java or install Java."
#4001 [22:22] <Elystus> Sorry, this "However, this program fixes and issue that only occurs with Java 7."
#4002 [22:22] <Elystus> took out the d
#4003 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let me know when you've fixed that and testing will continue
#4004 [22:24] <Elystus> Did you just want me to take out the d?
#4005 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: You also have "launcer" at the end of the source code you linked to before.
#4006 [22:24] <Elystus> fixed that
#4007 [22:24] <Elystus> I made a lot of typos when coding this :/
#4008 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Please jus thave it make sense in the best way possible.
#4009 [22:25] <Elystus> okay continue with testing, I will scan for typos and things that do not make sence
#4010 [22:25] <Elystus> sense*
#4011 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Let's hope taht more care and attention was used when coding it up too
#4012 [22:26] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Code should be fine, typos are caught by the compiler. it was just the messages that got messed up
#4013 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> Only some basic typos are caught by the compiler. Logic errors it can't catch.
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#4015 [22:27] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: True, I will double check that.
#4016 [22:27] <meh> ello
#4017 [22:27] <Elystus> btw, do you mean strings and integers?
#4018 [22:27] <meh> anyone help me .-.
#4019 [22:28] <Elystus> If so, the compiler catches those typos because it sees them as an undeclared variable.
#4020 [22:28] <Elystus> meh: What is your issue?
#4021 [22:28] <meh> i bougth an account
#4022 [22:28] <meh> and i download minecraft
#4023 [22:28] <meh> then i run it and some message pops up
#4024 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> I mean, it's perfectly possible to write code that compiles perfectly, and looks on the screen to do work properly, but doesn't actually do anything at all useful.
#4025 [22:28] <meh> i didnt get to read it
#4026 [22:28] <meh> and then
#4027 [22:29] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I guess so.
#4028 [22:29] <meh> the minecraft screen goes blank
#4029 [22:29] <meh> like black
#4030 [22:29] <meh> whenb i play offline
#4031 [22:29] <meh> when*
#4032 [22:29] <Elystus> meh: Okay, lets generate a crash report. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#4034 [22:30] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I see what you mean. Something like how I forgot to put 32 at the end of a string earlier.
#4035 [22:30] <organism31> im having a problem with the 1.3.1 build. after creating 3 new worlds in survival and creative mode, i cant seem to find any villages.
#4036 [22:30] <organism31> that and the world is loading much slower than it used to.
#4037 [22:30] <Elystus> organism31: They have a random spawn.
#4038 [22:31] <organism31> ive flown around in creative mode for at least 30min. that's very random.
#4039 [22:31] <Elystus> organism31: They are quite rare. I have only found 1
#4040 [22:31] <Elystus> Also, check to see that the option to create villages is turned on when creating the map
#4041 [22:31] <organism31> ive made sure that option was checked.
#4042 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> I checked two days ago in creative mode - villages do spawn in there
#4043 [22:32] <Elystus> organism31: Try a seed where you know a village will spawn.
#4044 [22:32] <organism31> good idea
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#4046 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I have java 5 installed, but your script doesn't detect that
#4047 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> Even though it's supposed to
#4048 [22:41] <Elystus> can you tell me what the path is for java 5?
#4049 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> The earlier java's installed to folders such as jre1.5.0_18 - I suggest that you get a directory listing of the java folder, and use a regular expression match
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#4051 [22:42] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Will do.
#4052 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> Or at the very least, test the code that you write, to make sure that it blodoy well works! That's kind of fundamental :)
#4053 [22:43] <Elystus> I didn't test Java 5 :/
#4054 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: You will eventually find that test-driven development is a highly effective way to write code. Set up a test that initially fails, write code to make it pass, and refactor if need be, then repeat from step 1.
#4055 [22:48] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: already finding that out .-.
#4056 [22:48] <meh> uh the message never pops up anymoer
#4057 [22:49] <meh> i just open it and it flashes "done loading' then goes straight to black screen
#4058 [22:50] <meh> ...
#4059 [22:50] <Elystus> meh, are you using one of the methods from the error report page?
#4060 [22:51] <meh> yea
#4061 [22:51] <meh> alredy used one
#4062 [22:51] <meh> used the first one
#4063 [22:51] <meh> it brought me to login.i logged in then it flashes done loading and goes to black screen
#4064 [22:51] <meh> like it usaully does
#4065 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> It may be that java cannot be easily found for you from the command prompt. We can check for that, and take steps to resolve that issue.
#4066 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, it bought you to login so it's not that issue
#4067 [22:53] <Elystus> it should have made an error report on the desktop
#4068 [22:54] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I will fix the code when I get back. :)
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#4070 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> aye
#4071 [22:55] <Tmorrish> when running a server whats would be the memmory need for say 15 players ?
#4072 [22:55] <meh> i used 2nd method
#4073 [22:55] <meh> and nothing happened
#4074 [22:55] <meh> o wait
#4075 [22:55] <meh> in the command promt
#4076 [22:55] <meh> it says
#4077 [22:55] <meh> C:\Users\Guest!\Desktop>java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp "C:\Users\Guest!\AppData\Roaming\ .minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="C:\Users\Guest!\AppData\Roaming\.minecraf t\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft Error: Could not find or load main class C:\Users\Guest!\AppData\Roaming\.minecr aft\bin\lwjgl.jar C:\Users\Guest!\Desktop>pause Press any key to continue . . .
#4078 [22:56] <meh> .-.
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#4081 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Tmorrish: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ says around 1.3 gigs of memory can handle 15 players
#4082 [22:58] <shrey> How should I change my server if others cannot join it, but I can see my personalized message of the day as well as enter the server myself?
#4083 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Is your server located at 71.184.126.81 ?
#4084 [22:59] <shrey> yes
#4085 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> !check 71.184.126.81
#4086 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> That's how it can be checked.
#4087 [22:59] <meh> O_O
#4088 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> shrey: Do you currently have the server going?
#4089 [22:59] <shrey> yes
#4090 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> meh: Are you the official that we've been looking for from Mojang?
#4091 [23:00] <shrey> should close it?
#4092 [23:00] <shrey> no...
#4093 [23:00] <meh> the offical? what?
#4094 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> shrey: No, leave it going
#4095 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> meh: There was talk yesterday about getting an official "meh" from Mojang in regard to certain things.
#4096 [23:00] <meh> no i just made up a random name XD
#4097 [23:01] <shrey> Any suggestions on how to fix it?
#4098 [23:01] <meh> i just want to play inecraft but the thing wont work
#4099 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> shrey: What port forwarding have you done?
#4100 [23:01] <shrey> verizon
#4101 [23:01] <meh> oh graet.. i tried method 3 and im stuck on the "done loading" screen
#4102 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> The answer doesn't match the question
#4103 [23:02] <meh> its stuck on done loading
#4104 [23:02] <meh> ><
#4105 [23:02] <shrey> oh...do you mean like tcp/udp?
#4106 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#4107 [23:02] <shrey> ok, one sec
#4108 [23:03] <Me4502> Ummm... I am having an issue with the green things... I found a bug where they dissapear when they get near me, and some blocks dissapear...
#4109 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Me4502: Is it mentioned already on this page? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#4110 [23:03] <shrey> tcp --> any udp -->any
#4111 [23:04] <Me4502> DiskDaemon: Did you not read my question? I was joking to show the obvious level of stupidity shown by people.
#4112 [23:04] <Me4502> Basically I reported creepers as a bug.
#4113 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, a joke. Ha. Ha. ... Ha. :)
#4114 [23:04] <Me4502> Yes, lol
#4115 [23:05] <meh> oh and also, it says it cannot connect to minecraft.net
#4116 [23:05] <meh> wtf....
#4117 [23:05] <shrey> My friends are not able to get on to my server even though I can see my personalized settings
#4118 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> meh: Does the bottom launcher have a dirt background or a black background?
#4119 [23:06] <meh> the botom launcher?
#4120 [23:06] <meh> um
#4121 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> meh: How about the upper part of the launcher. Do you see news in the upper part, or strange text instead?
#4122 [23:06] <meh> its black
#4123 [23:06] <shrey> They say that maybe my port is not open, but the personalized settings would not come if the ports were closed right?
#4124 [23:07] <meh> i see news
#4125 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> meh win/!
#4126 [23:07] <VoxelHead> meh: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#4127 [23:07] <VoxelHead> meh: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#4128 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> shrey: Please disable your firewall for the short-term, so we can see if that is interfering in any way. If it is, there are ways to fix it.
#4129 [23:07] <meh> WTF?
#4130 [23:07] <meh> did i just get spammed?
#4131 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> meh: You just got solutioned.
#4132 [23:08] <meh> O_o ok lemme read
#4133 [23:08] <meh> ok ima download it
#4134 [23:08] <meh> OOO
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#4136 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> that would be a good idea
#4137 [23:08] <meh> does it have anything to do
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#4139 [23:08] <meh> with
#4140 [23:09] <meh> my guest!
#4141 [23:09] <meh> names
#4142 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> yes.
#4143 [23:09] <meh> ><
#4144 [23:09] <meh> lemme check
#4145 [23:09] <shrey> ok, but on the port checking sites they are saying that the ports are closed and that the reason is the connection timed out
#4146 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> Renaming your account won't result in changing the folder path, so just renaming won't work.
#4147 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> shrey: What are your port forwarding settings? Please feel free to sceenshot them for us to take a look at.
#4148 [23:10] <meh> WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOOW
#4149 [23:10] <meh> FML>
#4150 [23:10] <BrieCrafts> hi! Um ok so I dont understand/know how to use or set up a server. I just want to play with my brother ( we have seperate accounts). Please help!
#4151 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> meh: you're welcome
#4152 [23:10] <meh> OMGOMGOMG
#4153 [23:10] <meh> TY SO MUCH
#4154 [23:10] <meh> i was bout to rage
#4155 [23:11] <meh> ok so minecraft is gona work forever now right?
#4156 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> BrieCrafts: Please read and follow the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#4157 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#4158 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> As long as you use the shortcut to that new location in your program data folder location.
#4159 [23:12] <caffymac> i dont want to interupt so when you're done i'd like to ask about a problem my son has with the control menu. His little brother did something which means he can't do anything but move and cant change the settings back. How do i approach this? He is really upset
#4160 [23:12] <BrieCrafts> I tried, but i dont understand it at all. I am not tech savy at all. Can you explain it in simpler terms? Really sorry for the trouble!
#4161 [23:12] <meh> will everthing be fixed if i removed the ! in my windows name?
#4162 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> caffymac: sorry, I wouldn't know how to even start helping in regard to that
#4163 [23:13] <caffymac> ok thanks anyway. do you know where i can look to find answers?
#4164 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> meh: No. Renaming your account won't fix things. You need to create a new account so that the internal direcetory name also changes.
#4165 [23:13] <meh> ok, so how do i make it work again?
#4166 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> meh: Ad said, create a new computer account without the troublesome exclamation mark or special characters in its name.
#4167 [23:15] <shrey> Create new port forwarding rule: TCP Any -> 25565 UDP Any -> 25565 WAN Connection Type Forward to Port Schedule
#4168 [23:15] <shrey> woops, sorry
#4169 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> *As
#4170 [23:15] <shrey> WAN is all broadband
#4171 [23:15] <shrey> Forward to port is same as incoming
#4172 [23:15] <shrey> schedule is always
#4173 [23:16] <meh> wth.. now it wont lof me in
#4174 [23:16] <meh> log*
#4175 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> shrey: I have no idea what any of that means. Which router do you have and I'll get you detailed instuctions on how to set it up for a minecraft server
#4176 [23:17] <shrey> meaning the model>
#4177 [23:17] <shrey> ?
#4178 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> shrey: yes, make/model
#4179 [23:17] <shrey> Verizon MI424WR Router
#4180 [23:18] <shrey> that would be of great help
#4181 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> shrey: Oh dear - I don't see any instructions that relate to the Verizon router at http://portforward.com/
#4182 [23:19] <meh> nvm i can only play offline
#4183 [23:19] <meh> it says i cant connect to minecraft.net
#4184 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> shrey: There are though Actiontec MI-424-WR instructions - would those do?
#4185 [23:19] * J-E-N-O-V-A [J-E-N-O-V-A@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
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#4187 [23:19] <shrey> If you think so then sure
#4188 [23:19] <shrey> If you think so then sure
#4189 [23:20] * J-E-N-O-V-A [J-E-N-O-V-A@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4190 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> shrey: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/MI-424-WR/Minecraft_Server.htm
#4191 [23:20] <BrieCrafts> Oops i just read the rules cause i didnt see them before sorry. Thanks! This is really nice of you guys!
#4192 [23:22] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4193 [23:24] <shrey> Ok, thank you for you help DiskDaemon...I have to go now
#4194 [23:26] <BrieCrafts> I have a question . My brother changed my skin, and i changed it back and it says its confirmed, but no madder how many times i refresh minecraft it wont apply in game..... Help!
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#4196 [23:26] <TheNoodle> BrieCrafts, close the client and reopen it
#4197 [23:26] <TheNoodle> also, don't be worried if you have to wait a few minutes for the changes to update.
#4198 [23:26] <BrieCrafts> Whats a client?
#4199 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft servers are currently down
#4200 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ says "currently unable to check service status"
#4201 [23:27] <BrieCrafts> oh is that why?
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#4203 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> wug: Are you still up?
#4204 [23:31] <BrieCrafts> whats a mod?
#4205 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> Is it worth having an OP update the topic given that the service status at help.mojang.com aren't up for now?
#4206 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> BrieCrafts: It's something that we don't provide support for here. It's a modification to the game.
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#4208 [23:32] <Eddie> Brie cheese?
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#4212 [23:36] <copyman2000> Anyone know when minecraft will be back online? i was playing a minute ago and switched PCs and now its not working
#4213 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> It's down for now - and should be back up shortly
#4214 [23:38] <copyman2000> Ill wait thanks.Im somewhat new to minecraft but I have been wondering something
#4215 [23:39] <copyman2000> In a server once u log off u cant be hurt right? you just disappear?
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#4218 [23:39] <gv> Right
#4219 [23:40] <copyman2000> Thought so but wanted to make sure. That is good
#4220 [23:41] <tcaruth> i see nobody knows when its coming back, but does anybody know about how long logins have been down?
#4221 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> about 10 minutes
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#4224 [23:41] <jwaldrip> is mc.net down?
#4225 [23:42] <Smokey> oo the authentication server is down. Probably why I cannot connect.
#4226 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> 6 hours ago Tobias twittered about the straw that broke the camels back too, not sure what happened, clusters, ...
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#4228 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> Can we get an OP in here to update the topic, in regard to the authentication servers being down?
#4229 [23:43] <Matthew1_2001> I just bought a new laptop for my son and we cannot get into Minecraft. Java just keeps running
#4230 [23:43] <Matthew1_2001> or trying to
#4231 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Matthew1_2001: Sorry, but their login servers are down at the moment. it happened about 15 minutes ago
#4232 [23:44] <copyman2000> I had to make a .bat file for my laptop because it said video card drivers are supported or something
#4233 [23:44] <copyman2000> not supported*
#4234 [23:44] <jwaldrip> Well bummer
#4235 [23:44] <Matthew1_2001> yeah but i have had this same issue for hours now
#4236 [23:44] <Matthew1_2001> its driving me crazy...lol
#4237 [23:44] <Smokey> Why is it up yet Disk?
#4238 [23:44] <copyman2000> What is it saying?
#4239 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> Oh hell, it's currently 5:44am in sweden. Someone's not going to like getting up outta bed to fix this
#4240 [23:44] <jwaldrip> how do I play minecraft now… all is lost
#4241 [23:45] <copyman2000> For how much money they made Im sure they can hire someone to work nights
#4242 [23:45] <copyman2000> and still making
#4243 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> Smokey: No, not at this stage
#4244 [23:45] <Smokey> Didn't think so. Oh well.
#4245 [23:45] <Matthew1_2001> I tried to downgrade to Java 6 thinking maybe it didnt like 7, but that didnt seem to work.
#4246 [23:45] <Matthew1_2001> any ideas?
#4247 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> The servers are down! (background shows village on fire)
#4248 [23:46] <Matthew1_2001> its like Java wont initiate. It just keeps cycling
#4249 [23:46] <copyman2000> I wouldnt see why u would need to downgrade
#4250 [23:46] <Matthew1_2001> ok i will wait and c what happens
#4251 [23:46] <copyman2000> Make sure drivers are up to date and java
#4252 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> We should please wait until after the servers are operational again, before commencing troubleshooting.
#4253 [23:47] <Matthew1_2001> i would thinks drivers are updated it is literally brand new. Let me see if there are any microsoft updates
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#4255 [23:48] <copyman2000> You cant get the game running at all right? cus server is offlien right now
#4256 [23:49] * AceCommando13 [AceCommando13@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4257 [23:49] <AceCommando13> I have a question about an error on my minecraft.
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#4259 [23:50] <pskv> T_T minecraften down
#4260 [23:50] <gv> !login
#4261 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it's currently down
#4262 [23:51] <Wug> MOLLLLLLSTAM!
#4263 [23:51] <gv> Uhoh
#4264 [23:51] <AceCommando13> i have an error on my minecraft that i can't find out how to fix
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#4266 [23:51] <copyman2000> Explain what is exactly wrong Im sure would help.
#4267 [23:51] * Wug lovingly prods mollstam
#4267 [23:51] <gv> Aww.
#4268 [23:51] <DiskDaemon> 5:50am - someone's gonna be pissed over there
#4269 [23:51] <copyman2000> They got good clocks
#4270 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> wug: Would you mind updating the topic?
#4271 [23:52] <AceCommando13> when i login and start playing, the game glitchs up and i cant see anything but if i put torches down
#4272 [23:52] <gv> Bleh. What am I still doing up.
#4273 [23:52] <Wug> !paid mollstam
#4274 [23:52] <Wug> well haspaid works
#4275 [23:52] <blink> >:[
#4276 [23:52] <Wug> I should homeroll an auth server
#4277 [23:53] * gv slumbers.
#4277 [23:53] <bhsgoclub> lol
#4278 [23:53] <blink> can you guys play minecraft offline?
#4279 [23:53] <bhsgoclub> yes if we really wanted to
#4280 [23:53] <blink> well I can't...
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#4282 [23:53] <bhsgoclub> try and log in
#4283 [23:53] <AceCommando13> hello
#4284 [23:53] * Wug ensleepifies gv
#4284 [23:53] <AceCommando13> ?
#4285 [23:53] <bhsgoclub> when it fails click play offline
#4286 [23:53] <blink> :|
#4287 [23:54] <Matthew1_2001> when i try to login from my work laptop i can get logged in, java initiates, etc.......but from the new laptop i just get the java circle running
#4288 [23:54] <blink> you're not a good helper.
#4289 [23:54] <Matthew1_2001> it has to be some setting since it is new out of the box
#4290 [23:54] <blink> when I click play offline it says it's loading, but doesn't load
#4291 [23:54] <Wug> Matthew1_2001: does the download client work
#4292 [23:54] <bhsgoclub> the only reason It would not work blink is if you have not ever played it before and it did not install
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#4294 [23:54] <bhsgoclub> idk then just wais
#4295 [23:54] <copyman2000> You have 1.3 matt?
#4296 [23:54] <bhsgoclub> wait^
#4297 [23:54] <blink> right, my jar...
#4298 [23:54] <blink> fffff-
#4299 [23:55] <copyman2000> You updated in other words?
#4300 [23:55] <AceCommando13> my minecraft screen is glitched up and has lines through it and i dont know whats wrong
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#4302 [23:55] <Wug> AceCommando13: restart it?
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#4304 [23:55] <AceCommando13> no it doesnt work
#4305 [23:55] <Matthew1_2001> <Wug> says it cant connect
#4306 [23:55] <Shadowtake> Help! I cant log into minecraft.net
#4307 [23:55] <Wug> Shadowtake: its down
#4308 [23:55] <RemagYob> Hello! Any reason I can't launch minecraft? Error: Cannot connect minecraft.net
#4309 [23:56] <RemagYob> Oh :/
#4310 [23:56] <bhsgoclub> AceCommando13: what graphics card do you have
#4311 [23:56] <Shadowtake> its down?
#4312 [23:56] <Shadowtake> its down?
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#4315 [23:56] * bhsgoclub wonders if anyone reads the topic ever.
#4315 [23:56] <Wug> theres a bot that says that when you join the channel
#4316 [23:56] <Shadowtake> help my friend can connect but i cant
#4317 [23:56] <AceCommando13> all i know is it works fine and its a good graphic card
#4318 [23:56] <RemagYob> I sure hope Jeb can fix this fast
#4319 [23:56] <Wug> people y u no read text :S
#4320 [23:56] <RemagYob> Last time it took ages
#4321 [23:56] <Wug> Shadowtake: its down
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#4323 [23:56] <Shadowtake> How come my friend can go on but i cant :/
#4324 [23:56] <bhsgoclub> AceCommando13: have you ever played before?
#4325 [23:57] <copyman2000> Just becuase other games work fine on a graphics card doesnt mean minecraft will
#4326 [23:57] <Matthew1_2001> we tried the processor and ram at the store and it worked, so i got him a nice dell with same.
#4327 [23:57] <Wug> Shadowtake: i bet if he logged out he wouldnt be able to log in again
#4328 [23:57] <Shadowtake> oh ok
#4329 [23:57] <AceCommando13> well on a different computer and it worked fine but not this one
#4330 [23:57] <Matthew1_2001> I think it has some initial packs to download and it cant
#4331 [23:57] <Matthew1_2001> not sure
#4332 [23:57] <Shadowtake> wait why do we have the same name
#4333 [23:57] <Shadowtake> i am an idiot or something
#4334 [23:57] <AceCommando13> and the other computer was EXACTLY like this one
#4335 [23:57] <Wug> Shadowtake: im wug
#4336 [23:57] <Shadowtake> is there something i dont get?
#4337 [23:58] <Wug> im saying your name
#4338 [23:58] <Shadowtake> ohhh so i am retarted
#4339 [23:58] <zethreal> why did I have to wait until tonight to try to download 1.3...
#4340 [23:58] <zethreal> lol
#4341 [23:58] <JedonGor> so.. brolly my problem " MC.net is herped " ... have had the problem for the last 10 hours.. Has it been 'herped' for longer than that?
#4342 [23:58] <Wug> its been herped for about 6 or 7 hours
#4343 [23:58] <bhsgoclub> AceCommando13: Even though it does not look like it Minecraft is very taxing on graphic cards. If the card is the same. then it could be that its going bad or a ram issue
#4344 [23:58] <Wug> well, confirmed herped
#4345 [23:58] <Wug> its supposedly been herped all day
#4346 [23:58] <AceCommando13> it brand new
#4347 [23:58] <Wug> :D
#4348 [23:58] <JedonGor> ah
#4349 [23:58] <Elystus> It has been screwy all day
#4350 [23:58] <AceCommando13> the computer
#4351 [23:59] <bhsgoclub> AceCommando13: Is it intal?
#4352 [23:59] <AceCommando13> what?
#4353 [23:59] * Elystus goes back to eating >_>
#4353 [23:59] <bhsgoclub> your graphic card
#4354 [23:59] <bhsgoclub> Minecraft hates some intal cards
#4355 [23:59] <JedonGor> anyone know what the retry timeout or ignore is on the login attempt?
#4356 [23:59] <AceCommando13> idk
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#4358 [23:59] <bhsgoclub> Well That Information would be helpful.
#4359 [23:59] <bhsgoclub> For us to help you