#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-12
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#2 [03:08] <VoxelHead> AuBot, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#3 [03:08] <Texer> should i put that start.bat that i made to the server file where there is all other server files?
#4 [03:08] <Andrio> Well, put 2minecraft_server.jar instead of 15craftbukkit.jar.
#5 [03:08] <Andrio> VoxelHead, lol
#6 [03:08] <Andrio> Yes
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#8 [03:10] <VoxelHead> [THC]Fibonacci, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#9 [03:12] <Texer> hmm i attached the start.bat file there and its not getting more memory :/
#10 [03:12] <Andrio> It's starting then?
#11 [03:13] <Texer> it starts but there is same amount of memory as i started earlyer
#12 [03:13] <Andrio> Did you double click on the start.jar?
#13 [03:14] <Andrio> start.bat*
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#15 [03:14] <VoxelHead> TrueWolves, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#16 [03:14] <ssfdre38> login servers are back up
#17 [03:14] <Texer> yes
#18 [03:14] <ssfdre38> i know i was saying
#19 [03:15] <Andrio> OK then, open up the start.bat and enter 022G instead of 151G.
#20 [03:15] <Texer> i double clicked it and there comes for half a second a black screen and then it goes off and then i start my server it dont have more memory there
#21 [03:15] <ssfdre38> nvm they are back down now cause im getting an error
#22 [03:15] <Texer> k
#23 [03:15] <Andrio> oh, looks like the start.bat isn't working.
#24 [03:15] <zkxs> Why are color codes allowed after all this time of having +c?
#25 [03:16] <Texer> :D
#26 [03:16] <Texer> is there the an other solution
#27 [03:18] <Andrio> I don't know of one, but this can be fixed.
#28 [03:18] <Andrio> what have you got in the start.bat?
#29 [03:19] <Texer> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar craftbukkit.jar
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#31 [03:19] <VoxelHead> Kobemamba24, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#32 [03:19] <Texer> ah sry wrong file from wrong folder
#33 [03:19] <Texer> its the same but with 2g
#34 [03:19] <Kobemamba24> Hey anyone have multiplayer problem?
#35 [03:20] <zkxs> Anyone have a reading problem?
#36 [03:20] <Kobemamba24> I had this SAME problem last night?
#37 [03:20] <blink> !login
#38 [03:20] <Andrio> let's be clear on this, that's in the start.bat in the same folder as your .jar?
#39 [03:20] <blink> uh
#40 [03:20] <blink> !login
#41 [03:20] <Kobemamba24> Did the multiplayer problem happen with anyone else last night?
#42 [03:21] <blink> I see people still getting on...
#43 [03:21] <blink> er
#44 [03:21] <blink> hear
#45 [03:21] <blink> friend of mine just logged back on
#46 [03:21] <Texer> hmm nope i have it in my server folder not in my jar file how do i put it in jar file
#47 [03:21] <Andrio> no, that's all right.
#48 [03:22] <Texer> a shit i read my own
#49 [03:22] <Texer> yes its as u said earlyer
#50 [03:22] <Andrio> Is there a craftbukkit.jar in your server folder?
#51 [03:22] <Texer> nope
#52 [03:22] <Andrio> Or is it named something else?
#53 [03:22] <Texer> yes
#54 [03:22] <Texer> minecraft_server jar file
#55 [03:23] <zkxs> The login problems are intermittent. The server's aren't completely down, but they aren't 100%
#56 [03:23] <Andrio> Well, you'll need to open the start.bat
#57 [03:23] <Andrio> and change the bit after 2-jar to 2minecraft_server.jar
#58 [03:24] <Andrio> so you should end up with 3java -Xms2G -Xmx2G -jar minecraft_server.jar
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#60 [03:25] <VoxelHead> macer, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#61 [03:26] <macer7> uhh
#62 [03:27] <Andrio> Texer, do you understand all that?
#63 [03:27] <Texer> so whole script in start.bat should be java -Xms2G -Xmx2G -jar minecraft_server.jar?
#64 [03:27] <Andrio> Yes
#65 [03:28] <zkxs> I should make a .bat file you drag and drop your server jar onto to create a startup script
#66 [03:28] <Texer> it dont work
#67 [03:28] <Texer> server has same amount of memory all the time
#68 [03:29] <Andrio> well, when you open the .bat, that should start the server...
#69 [03:29] <Andrio> Probably Windows can't find your Java installation.
#70 [03:30] <Andrio> that actually happened to me too :|
#71 [03:30] <macer7> VoxelHead: hi bot
#72 [03:30] <macer7> Mollstam said it's working now :D
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#74 [03:31] <VoxelHead> Fiskav, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#75 [03:31] <Andrio> Texer, instead of just 15java I have to use 2"C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe"
#76 [03:31] <Texer> it dont open the server it just thros for a half second a little black screen and its all
#77 [03:31] <Andrio> try that.
#78 [03:31] <Fiskav> Thanks, VoxelHead.
#79 [03:31] <Fiskav> I did try to connect earlier, this has happened for a while now.
#80 [03:31] <Fiskav> (in that it happened yesterday too)
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#82 [03:33] <VoxelHead> Fiskav, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#83 [03:33] <macer7> VoxelHead: bot u r wrong session serverz r working!!!
#84 [03:33] <Fiskav> ...
#85 [03:33] <Andrio> I will laugh if Vox gets kicked for repeating that line :)
#86 [03:33] <Fiskav> Nup.
#87 [03:33] <macer7> Mollstam fixed it 5 minutes ago
#88 [03:33] <Fiskav> :O
#89 [03:34] <Fiskav> I just noticed...
#90 [03:34] <Fiskav> That Mollstam is in this IRC channel...
#91 [03:34] <Fiskav> Woah.
#92 [03:34] <macer7> mollstam is afking on irc
#93 [03:35] <Texer> andrio hmm i used it and still not working :/
#94 [03:35] <macer7> he have irc running on server and detached
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#96 [03:35] <VoxelHead> BlackP, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#97 [03:35] <BlackP> hi everyone
#98 [03:35] <Jamy_> They are working
#99 [03:35] <Jamy_> !!
#100 [03:35] <BlackP> tthats what i thought
#101 [03:35] <Andrio> 2"C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe"java -Xms2G -Xmx2G -jar minecraft_server.jar didn't work?
#102 [03:35] <Jamy_> Its back up everyone
#103 [03:36] <Andrio> 2"C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms2G -Xmx2G -jar minecraft_server.jar*
#104 [03:36] <BlackP> i have two questions if i may?
#105 [03:37] <BlackP> iv had a person on my server nuke the center of town and left a massive hole. i want to fill it in quickly. how? also i want to remove the nuke from my item list how?
#106 [03:37] <Texer> nope :/
#107 [03:37] <Andrio> Looks like your Java isn't there then
#108 [03:38] <Texer> :D wtf
#109 [03:38] <Andrio> it's somewhere else
#110 [03:38] <Texer> how do i get it there then i go internet and download it again
#111 [03:38] <Texer> k
#112 [03:38] <Andrio> go into my Computer and click into the C drive
#113 [03:40] <Texer> done
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#115 [03:40] <VoxelHead> Me4502, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#116 [03:40] <macer7> VoxelHead: shut up
#117 [03:40] <Andrio> open Program Files and tell me if there's a folder in there called Java
#118 [03:40] <Andrio> lol
#119 [03:40] <mib_d8frwr> macer7: vox is a bot
#120 [03:40] <macer7> I know
#121 [03:41] <mib_d8frwr> he does this because no matter how many levels of bright red text people have to go through, some still manage to get the whole way though without reading it
#122 [03:41] <Texer> its not there its in my program files (x86) folder and i now tested it by changeing the script to that but still not working
#123 [03:41] <macer7> hehe
#124 [03:42] <macer7> can he do any tricks ;)?
#125 [03:42] <macer7> VoxelHead: ping
#126 [03:42] <Andrio> ok
#127 [03:42] <Andrio> if you open the Java folder, is there a jre6 or jre7?
#128 [03:42] <Texer> jre6 there is¨
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#130 [03:44] <VoxelHead> DHfan1, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#131 [03:44] <DHfan1> hey I have a question how can I pick up a mob spawner??????
#132 [03:45] <Andrio> Texer, let's find out what error you're getting
#133 [03:45] <Andrio> probably should have done this before :|
#134 [03:45] <Andrio> Go back to your server folder
#135 [03:47] <DHfan1> does anyone know how to pick up a mob spawner??
#136 [03:47] <Texer> here i am
#137 [03:47] <Andrio> DHfan1, I don't think you can
#138 [03:47] <DHfan1> why?
#139 [03:47] <Andrio> Texer, hold down Shift and right click on a blank part of the window
#140 [03:47] <Andrio> then click on 2Open Command Window Here
#141 [03:47] <Andrio> I had a picture for this, but I lost the link :|
#142 [03:48] * Andrio goes digging in his logs.
#142 [03:48] <Texer> done
#143 [03:48] <Texer> k
#144 [03:48] <Andrio> you should have a black window like the ones from start.bat
#145 [03:48] <Andrio> do you?
#146 [03:48] <Texer> yes
#147 [03:48] <Andrio> Good.
#148 [03:49] <Andrio> Type 2start.bat into it and press enter
#149 [03:49] <mib_d8frwr> DHfan1: because it would break game mechanics to be able to move them
#150 [03:49] <Andrio> then tell me what it says
#151 [03:49] <mib_d8frwr> if you want to do that, you would need a mod
#152 [03:49] <Texer> its says "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms2G -Xmx2G -jar minecraft_server.jar the trace is not found
#153 [03:50] <Andrio> ...
#154 [03:50] <macer7> ...
#155 [03:50] <macer7> just run the fcking exe one
#156 [03:50] <Andrio> I've never seen thatbefore...
#157 [03:50] <Texer> k :/
#158 [03:51] <Andrio> wait
#159 [03:51] <Andrio> You changed it to 2Program Files (x86) right?
#160 [03:51] <Texer> ye
#161 [03:52] <Andrio> does it say that in the error?
#162 [03:52] <Andrio> or does it just say Program Files?
#163 [03:53] <Texer> it says (x86)
#164 [03:53] <Texer> its same error
#165 [03:54] <Andrio> well, I can't find anything on google about that error :(
#166 [03:54] <Texer> plaah thats shit
#167 [03:54] <Texer> :(
#168 [03:54] <Andrio> Double-clicking on the .jar will still work though
#169 [03:54] <Texer> yes
#170 [03:54] <Texer> but with the same memory amount
#171 [03:57] <Texer> say could this help To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#172 [03:57] <Texer> it reads at the top of the server opening screen when i use my server
#173 [03:58] <Andrio> what happens if you just type that into a Run box?
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#175 [03:59] <VoxelHead> Guest60929, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#176 [03:59] <Guest60929> Hey could anyone help?
#177 [03:59] <Guest60929> I dont know how to turn hardcore mode off on my server
#178 [04:00] <Andrio> There's hardcore mode on servers?
#179 [04:00] <Andrio> How's that possible?
#180 [04:00] <Guest60929> LOL Maybe because i ported the map from spm
#181 [04:00] <Guest60929> lemme delete the map all together
#182 [04:01] <Andrio> spm?
#183 [04:01] <Texer> it dont work
#184 [04:01] <Andrio> ok
#185 [04:02] <Andrio> try typing this into the run box:
#186 [04:02] <Guest60929> single player mode
#187 [04:02] <Andrio> 2cmd /K java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#188 [04:02] <macer7> run the exe >.>
#189 [04:02] <macer7> jar is for linux
#190 [04:03] <Andrio> Texer says it doesn't get enough RAM then
#191 [04:03] <Guest60929> im using linux
#192 [04:03] <Andrio> and the .jar is usefur if you want to redirect the standard output
#193 [04:03] <Andrio> useful*
#194 [04:03] <Andrio> or if you're running Bukkit
#195 [04:03] <Andrio> which doesn't have an exe
#196 [04:03] <macer7> Guest60929: I was talking to andrio :P
#197 [04:04] <Texer> hey now it opened a black screen that dont do anything
#198 [04:04] <Andrio> IIRC there's something in server.properties for the game mode.
#199 [04:04] <Andrio> is there an error?
#200 [04:04] <Texer> ye
#201 [04:04] <Andrio> is it the same error?
#202 [04:05] <Texer> it dont reconize that command it says
#203 [04:07] <Andrio> does your computer actually have 2 GB of ram?
#204 [04:07] <Texer> 8 Gb f ram :/
#205 [04:07] <Texer> of*
#206 [04:10] <Texer> how can this be so hard :O
#207 [04:11] <Andrio> well, I don't know what's going on with the trace error :(
#208 [04:11] <Andrio> sorry
#209 [04:11] <mib_d8frwr> Texer: get 64 bit hava
#210 [04:11] <mib_d8frwr> java*
#211 [04:12] <Texer> from their web site?
#212 [04:12] <mib_d8frwr> yep
#213 [04:12] <mib_d8frwr> get the latest version of 7
#214 [04:12] <mib_d8frwr> windows x64 download
#215 [04:19] <Texer> what then
#216 [04:25] * [THC]Fibonacci [[THC]Fibonacci@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#217 [04:25] <VoxelHead> [THC]Fibonacci, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#218 [04:27] <Texer> hey now i got it work
#219 [04:27] <Texer> thanks Andrio and mib_d8frwr alot
#220 [04:28] * Kealper[Mib] [Kealper[Mib]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#221 [04:28] <VoxelHead> Kealper[Mib], welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#222 [04:28] <Kealper[Mib]> disregard this, just debugging AuBot
#223 [04:29] * lwnDrt6252 [lwnDrt6252@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#224 [04:29] <VoxelHead> lwnDrt6252, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#225 [04:29] <lwnDrt6252> ok, so this channel is down?
#226 [04:30] <Andrio> lol No
#227 [04:30] <lwnDrt6252> nvm, game servers I'm assuming?
#228 [04:30] <mib_d8frwr> thats what it says, isnt it
#229 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> everything is up and looking healthy now http://help.mojang.com/
#230 [04:30] <lwnDrt6252> anyway, I desperate for some help... need a minecraft guru
#231 [04:32] <Andrio> Just ask your question. If someone here can answer you, they will.
#232 [04:33] <lwnDrt6252> alright, cool... downloaded minecraft.jar made it executable... run and login... good play demo and tries to update... the only thing I get is the file folders nothing in the folders... get's to updating minecraft update done... but definitely not done
#233 [04:34] <Andrio> The demo doesn't work unless someone has already downloaded the full game on that computer.
#234 [04:34] <Andrio> Sorry about that
#235 [04:34] <lwnDrt6252> ohhh, that would be the problem then... so I can't try it out before I buy it?
#236 [04:35] <Andrio> I guess not
#237 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> Currently not by itself, no
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#239 [04:36] <VoxelHead> Calinou, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#240 [04:36] <lwnDrt6252> ahhhhh, well that sux... thanks guys... now I feel like a tard for wasting all that damn time trying to get it going! haha Thanks guys
#241 [04:36] <Calinou> for what? O_o the demo?
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#243 [04:37] <VoxelHead> Andrio-2, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#244 [04:38] <Calinou> auth servers are up
#245 [04:38] * Calinou stabs VoxelHead
#245 [04:38] <Andrio> lol
#246 [04:39] <Andrio> AuBot should check it periodically and let us know if it comes back up
#247 [04:39] <Andrio> That might be useful.
#248 [04:39] <Kealper> !login
#249 [04:39] <Kealper> smells like trouble, to me
#250 [04:39] <Andrio> Servers are borked :|
#251 [04:39] <Calinou> help.mojang.com
#252 [04:40] <Calinou> Y U INCORRECT
#253 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> s.nerd.nu can be connected to without any trouble
#254 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> That's reddit's survivial server
#255 [04:42] <Calinou> "it's not being ddos'd? oh, awesome" ~reddit servers. ;)
#256 [04:42] <Andrio> doesn't team avo have it in for reddit?
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#258 [04:42] <VoxelHead> pico, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#259 [04:42] <VoxelHead> pico, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
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#262 [04:53] <VoxelHead> lukegb, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
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#264 [04:56] <VoxelHead> Jasmine, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
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#266 [05:05] <VoxelHead> Kanegasi, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#267 [05:07] <Kanegasi> lol
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#269 [05:22] <VoxelHead> anders, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#270 [05:24] <AwayK> VoxelHead is almost as spammy as people asking >_>
#271 [05:24] <Kanegasi> well, people don't read the topic or notices
#272 [05:35] <Kealper> testing to make sure that actually was the problem
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#274 [05:36] <VoxelHead> Kealper[Mib], welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
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#276 [05:37] <Kealper> so close... quit message is being parsed wrong in the log file... but it's actually working much better now :o
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#278 [05:39] <VoxelHead> warchicken, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
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#280 [05:42] <mib_d8frwr> awrlight, I find out why demo doesnt wrk
#281 [05:43] <mib_d8frwr> GameUpdater.createApplet throws: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet
#282 [05:43] <mib_d8frwr> probably just doesn't download the jars but tries anyway as is universally suspected
#283 [05:43] * mib_d8frwr fiddle
#283 [05:44] <mib_d8frwr> I wish they used fewer anonymous subclasses and threads
#284 [05:44] <mib_d8frwr> I mean uhh
#285 [05:44] <mib_d8frwr> herpy derp
#286 [05:44] <mib_d8frwr> minecraft iz bork
#287 [05:46] <Kealper> this is #minecrafthelp lol, usually the people providing help have atleast some programming experience :P
#288 [05:46] <Kealper> so anyways... the only reason the demo doesn't work is because it tries launching the game without actually downloading all the game?
#289 [05:46] <mib_d8frwr> wtf if(s == null || s.length() <= 0)
#290 [05:46] <Necrodoom> Kealper: pretty much
#291 [05:47] <mib_d8frwr> I wasn't aware strings could have a negative length
#292 [05:47] <Kealper> Necrodoom: that's kind of lame
#293 [05:47] <Necrodoom> thats what mojang is for ya
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#295 [05:47] <VoxelHead> Katz, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#296 [05:47] <Necrodoom> whole lot of garbage
#297 [05:47] <Kealper> mib_d8frwr: it's Java, Java is the poster-child for covering even the unspeakable bases...
#298 [05:48] <mib_d8frwr> lol I remember there was a funny error message in the server once
#299 [05:48] <Kealper> factories nested on top of factories, etc
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#301 [05:48] <VoxelHead> DT39, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#302 [05:48] <mib_d8frwr> when sending strings in SMP, it sends the length first, then the value
#303 [05:48] <mib_d8frwr> so there was a useful length < 0 check there
#304 [05:48] <mib_d8frwr> the message it put in the exception was "String length < 0! Weird String!"
#305 [05:48] <Kealper> well yes, if they're using signed ints
#306 [05:48] <Kealper> rofl
#307 [05:49] <Kealper> but if they're using signed numbers as string counts, they're doing it so horribly wrong
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#309 [05:50] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#310 [05:50] <Kealper> and while we're on the topic of strings in Minecraft's protocol
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#312 [05:50] <Kealper> i hate that the string length byte is not saying the length of the binary data that contains the string, but rather the length in characters of the following string
#313 [05:52] <Kealper> anyways, it's extremely late, i'm off now :o
#314 [05:52] <Calinou> mibbit user
#315 [05:52] <Calinou> >knows java
#316 [05:53] <mib_d8frwr> miblets have feeling too you know
#317 [05:54] <Kealper> waaait.... nevermind
#318 [05:54] * Kealper sighs
#318 [05:54] <Kealper> lol
#319 [05:54] <mib_d8frwr> I'm breaking the system \o/
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#321 [05:55] <Kealper> i really suck at going to bed
#322 [05:57] <Kealper> but as a side-note, i've finally gotten around to rewriting AuBot's channel logging module
#323 [05:57] <Kealper> it actually shows things like quits and nick changes now....
#324 [05:57] <Kealper> wait, not nick changes.... that's broke-as-heck
#325 [05:58] <Kealper> !reload mod_log
#326 [05:59] <Kealper> that probably works now
#327 [06:00] <Kealper> anywho, afk for real this time...
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#329 [06:01] <VoxelHead> Grimlock257, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Minecraft's session server is down, you will not be able to connect to online servers until it is restored.
#330 [06:01] <Grimlock257> UGH :( I wish that would stop telling me >.>
#331 [06:01] <mib_d8frwr> I wish it would stop being down.
#332 [06:01] <mib_d8frwr> though I think its up atm.
#333 [06:01] <mib_d8frwr> .siteup
#334 [06:01] <VoxelHead> mib_d8frwr, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#335 [06:10] <Boreeas> [11:49:02] mib_d8frwr [11:46:47] wtf if(s == null || s.length() <= 0)
#336 [06:11] <Boreeas> Better question, why do they not use s.isEmpty()?
#337 [06:11] <mib_d8frwr> because its slowere
#338 [06:11] <mib_d8frwr> and still doesnt catch the null
#339 [06:11] <Boreeas> After the null check, obviously
#340 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> The only possible reason that I can think of is due to premature optimisation, or ignorance of the isEmpty method
#341 [06:12] <Boreeas> Or maybe the compiler optimized that
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#343 [06:22] <Boreeas> Well, probably not, isEmpty() only checks count == 0
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#345 [06:22] <mib_bx2xck> Hello
#346 [06:23] <mib_bx2xck> im having a minecraft migration issue, everything is migrated over yet i still cant login to MC
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#348 [06:24] <mib_bx2xck> wow how can there be this many people on and ALL of them are idlers?
#349 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> Some may have died at the keyboard, we have no way of telling
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#352 [06:25] <mib_bx2xck> lmao
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#354 [06:26] <Shotz> Hey guys, i finnaly figured out how to fix the sound if it doesen't work when you open the game!
#355 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> Updating openal ?
#356 [06:26] <mib_bx2xck> fix my problem -_-
#357 [06:27] <Shotz> No, when ingame, press F3 and S at the same time
#358 [06:27] <Shotz> Sounds instantly come back
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#360 [06:27] <mib_d8frwr> the launcher is really convoluted
#361 [06:27] <mib_bx2xck> i cant login with my original account caues it tells me to migrate, then when i migrate it says im already migrated, so i login to the migration page and i can change pass and such
#362 [06:27] <mib_d8frwr> but ive found out what I need to change
#363 [06:27] <mib_bx2xck> THEN after doing so, logging into MC just says loginf ailed every time
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#366 [06:28] <mib_d8frwr> mib_bx2xck: have you tried using your email address as your username
#367 [06:28] <mib_bx2xck> yep
#368 [06:29] <mib_bx2xck> same one thats on the migration page where i can change pass, when i do it says what pass for which account do i want to change
#369 [06:29] <mib_bx2xck> and 2 options, my old account which tell sme to migrate if i try to login with it
#370 [06:29] <mib_bx2xck> and the new one with the same email
#371 [06:29] <mib_d8frwr> ooooh, so you have 2 accounts on the same email?
#372 [06:30] <mib_d8frwr> can you change one to a different email?
#373 [06:30] <mib_bx2xck> well 1 is email account and the other is the original MC account
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#379 [06:51] <mib_d8frwr> working.
#380 [06:51] <mib_d8frwr> go me.
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#382 [06:52] <mib_d8frwr> gimme a sec to apply annotate my changes and apply the existing launcher patches that the troubleshooting launcher normally has
#383 [06:52] <mib_d8frwr> gimme a sec to apply annotate my changes and apply the existing launcher patches that the troubleshooting launcher normally has
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#430 [09:12] <artur101> I need help with my minecraft account
#431 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need?
#432 [09:15] <artur101> i buy'd the minecraft
#433 [09:16] <artur101> and one day i cant more use the minecraft
#434 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#435 [09:16] <artur101> yes
#436 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to run it now?
#437 [09:16] * Chris is now known as :rm-rf
#438 [09:16] <artur101> i can' log in to game
#439 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> What is the error you get when you try to log in?
#440 [09:17] <artur101> the password is changed
#441 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> You can request a password change using http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#442 [09:17] * Corin is now known as :Corin|Away
#443 [09:17] <artur101> and if I want to change password I get note change password
#444 [09:18] <artur101> E-mail couldn't be sent. Perhaps you just requested one, try again in about 20 minutes.
#445 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to wait to request another email
#446 [09:18] <artur101> there is problem,
#447 [09:19] <artur101> I buy it from my mail
#448 [09:19] <artur101> but I cant have this mail to change password
#449 [09:19] <artur101> is like mail changed.
#450 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
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#453 [09:20] <artur101> but I get email when I buy'd the game
#454 [09:21] <artur101> there is one code I do not know what it is ...
#455 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Wait a little bit and request another password reset from the linik
#456 [09:21] <artur101> to put here?
#457 [09:22] <artur101> if I give to u the minecraft account name, is that helping you?
#458 [09:22] <artur101> the name is: Dor_Op2
#459 [09:23] <Calinou> !paid Dor_Op2
#460 [09:23] <Calinou> Chris|ZzZ, lol
#461 [09:23] <Chris|ZzZ> :3
#462 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, try requesting another password reset from http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword in 20 minutes
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#464 [09:23] <artur101> but I cant have the mail,
#465 [09:24] <artur101> is there any option to change mail?
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#467 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> There is, if you migrate your account using https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#468 [09:25] <mib_d8frwr> alright
#469 [09:25] <mib_d8frwr> i fix demo :D
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#471 [09:26] <mib_d8frwr> All I had to do was edit launcher files. :)
#472 [09:26] <artur101> on migrate I need a password, and there is problem ....
#473 [09:26] <warchicken> Any redstone magicians in this channel?
#474 [09:27] <mib_d8frwr> warchicken: I'm a redstone devastator
#475 [09:27] <artur101> have check'd before
#476 [09:27] <Andrio> I have experience with redstone engineering
#477 [09:27] <mib_d8frwr> able to take any redstone schematic, and totally devastate it
#478 [09:27] <mib_d8frwr> into a bastardized blob of fail
#479 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> artur101 - Please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#480 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> artur101 - There, you will find a link to contact Mojang with
#481 [09:29] <mib_d8frwr> :DDD
#482 [09:29] <artur101> thank you
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#486 [09:30] <mib_d8frwr> GreyVulpine: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#487 [09:30] <mib_d8frwr> give it a test
#488 [09:30] <Calinou> mib_d8frwr, surely legal
#489 [09:30] <mib_d8frwr> Calinou: its as legal as the other one that we've used for months
#490 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Please don't distribute the launcher like that
#491 [09:30] <mib_d8frwr> like 8 or 9 months
#492 [09:31] <mib_d8frwr> GreyVulpine: I can't port forward, so dropbox it is
#493 [09:31] * mib_d8frwr hunts down the channel his nick is banned in
#493 [09:31] * mib_d8frwr is now known as :Wug
#494 [09:31] <wannabemac> Hello, I am trying to play minecraft in browser on Fedora but get stuck on done loading.
#495 [09:32] <Calinou> O_o wug
#496 [09:32] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I fixed demo mode
#497 [09:32] <Calinou> wannabemac, just play the downloaded version, the browser version fails 75% of the time
#498 [09:32] * GreyVulpine sighs
#498 [09:32] <Calinou> (at least give it a try)
#499 [09:32] <Wug> the usual troubleshooting patches are there as well, output redirection and the show password button
#500 [09:32] <Wug> I also added a "use session key" login
#501 [09:33] <wannabemac> okay, ty
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#503 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> and the launcher actually downloads the files instead of pre-packaging them?
#504 [09:33] <Wug> which will allow you to use some session key rather than querying the auth server for a new one
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#506 [09:33] <Wug> i.e. you can dig up your last session key from the log and play online even if the auth servers are dead
#507 [09:33] <Calinou> O_o
#508 [09:34] <Wug> actually, that part wont work unless you see it coming
#509 [09:34] <wannabemac> is this really wug?
#510 [09:34] <Wug> the one and only.
#511 [09:34] <Wug> I was the mibbit the whole time
#512 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's Wug..
#513 [09:34] <wannabemac> How nice wug. ._.
#514 [09:35] <wannabemac> well, thanks
#515 [09:35] <Wug> anyway GreyVulpine yes, it downloads the files at runtime if its broken
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#517 [09:35] * Andrio : That Mibbit is a spy!
#517 [09:35] <Wug> and by that I mean if they're missing
#518 [09:35] * GreyVulpine deducts one GeekCred™ from Wug's account
#518 [09:35] <Wug> i've been awake for too long
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#520 [09:35] <Wug> ho ho he he ha ha
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#522 [09:35] <Wug> anyway, it wont quite work usefully
#523 [09:35] <Calinou> lol I version'd wannabemac and he disconnected
#524 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> At least, go poke DG so he can host the file
#525 [09:36] <Wug> it will let you specify a session key, but it will still overwrite the log before you know you need it
#526 [09:36] <Wug> maybe I'll datestamp it
#527 [09:36] <Wug> that wont be hard h/o
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#529 [09:37] <Wug> they obfuscated the launcher since the last time I did this
#530 [09:37] <Wug> it was a bit harder this time
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#535 [09:51] <Wug> I updated it
#536 [09:51] <Wug> the same link still works
#537 [09:52] <Wug> tyteen4a03: I'm done with your nonpremium account, you can reset the password
#538 [09:52] <Wug> DopeGhoti: doop
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#541 [10:00] <Borelius> hello! When i try to install Minecraft to my computure i get an error saying "Could not create the Java Virtual Machine."
#542 [10:00] <Borelius> I've tried to reinstall Java but that didn't help..
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#546 [10:02] <Borelius> anyone know what to do?
#547 [10:02] <Calinou> classic or the full game? what operating system?
#548 [10:02] <Borelius> Full game, Windows
#549 [10:03] <Borelius> Windows 7*
#550 [10:04] <lutzee> Do you have other programs running when you try?
#551 [10:04] <Borelius> Nope
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#553 [10:04] <Borelius> Got my virus program on Game Mode aswell
#554 [10:04] <lutzee> Do you know how much ram is in your computer?
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#556 [10:05] <Borelius> 4gb
#557 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Remove java completely and reinstall it?
#558 [10:05] <Borelius> Already tried that
#559 [10:05] <Calinou> Borelius, uninstall any other versions of java on your computer then install this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
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#561 [10:05] <Calinou> install the one for Windows x64 if you're on a 64 bit OS
#562 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Is there more to the error text?
#563 [10:06] <Borelius> x2 errors
#564 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to uninstall it completely?
#565 [10:06] <Borelius> Error: Could not Create the Java Virtual Machine & Error: A fatal exception has occured. Program will exit.
#566 [10:07] <Borelius> Yes, i uninstalled Java completely
#567 [10:07] <Borelius> Shouldn't i get Java 7? as it is the newest version?
#568 [10:08] <Wug> go ahead
#569 [10:08] <Wug> 7 used to have issues but lately I haven't seen them
#570 [10:08] <Borelius> Already removed it and reinstall it 2 times
#571 [10:08] <Wug> you are getting the 64 bit version right?
#572 [10:08] <Borelius> Give me a min
#573 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> There's still ipv6 issues with 7, but ely and disk have written up workarounds
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#575 [10:09] <Borelius> Getting Java 6 then
#576 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> ely's got some sort of C++ program they've written up, and disk has a walkthrough on forcing ipv4 on his wiki page somewhere
#577 [10:10] <Borelius> "Windows Offline (64-bitars) " if i got 64 bits right?
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#582 [10:11] <Borelius> Yupp yupp, works now
#583 [10:12] <Borelius> Thank you guys!
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#585 [10:15] <Wug> derp
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#587 [10:17] <Calinou> herp
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#594 [10:29] <Cisna> Hi
#595 [10:29] <Andrio> Hi
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#600 [10:43] <gv> !ping
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#602 [10:44] <Wug> !pong
#603 [10:45] <gv> !weather hell
#604 [10:45] <GreyBot> gv: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (10:40a Aug 12 12) temp(70.7 F / 21.5 C) cond(Clear) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(70%) dewpnt(60 F / 16 C) bp(30.01 in / 1016 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(5 out of 16)
#605 [10:45] <GreyBot> Sunday: Partly cloudy. High of 81F. Winds from the West at 5 to 10 mph.
#606 [10:45] <Jasmine> lol
#607 [10:46] <Wug> the cicadas are waking up
#608 [10:46] <gv> Ruh-roh
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#611 [10:48] <tyteen4a03> Wug: ok
#612 [10:48] <newbie|2> Failed to login. Bad login. Hmm how to login? xD
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#614 [10:50] <gv> Reset password
#615 [10:51] <Morrolan> If it contains any special characters (§ and the like), try a password without them.
#616 [10:51] <Morrolan> Numbers, letters and basic punctuation marks should be fine.
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#622 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> !weather hong kong
#623 [11:13] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: From Hong Kong, Hong Kong (11:00p Aug 12 12) temp(82 F / 28 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(SE at 5 mph / 7 km/h) hu(79%) dewpnt(75 F / 24 C) bp(29.65 in / 1004 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 1200 ft / 365 m, Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 3500 ft / 1066 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#624 [11:13] <GreyBot> Saturday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 90 F.
#625 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> 28 C?
#626 [11:14] <lutzee> its hot there
#627 [11:15] <macer> !weather gdansk
#628 [11:15] <GreyBot> macer: From Sobieszewo, Gdansk, Poland (5:15p Aug 12 12) temp(64.2 F / 17.9 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(NNE at 4.9 mph / 7.9 km/h) hu(74%) dewpnt(56 F / 13 C) bp(30.15 in / 1021 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 2100 ft / 640 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(2 out of 16)
#629 [11:15] <GreyBot> Saturday: Rain. High: 70 F.
#630 [11:15] <Morrolan> !weather Zurich
#631 [11:15] <GreyBot> Morrolan: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#632 [11:15] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#633 [11:15] <macer> cool
#634 [11:15] <macer> !weather bialogora
#635 [11:15] <GreyBot> macer: City not found
#636 [11:15] <lutzee> !weather coventry
#637 [11:16] <lutzee> ._.
#638 [11:16] <macer> ._.
#639 [11:16] <macer> you crashed the bot
#640 [11:16] <macer> or he does not like you
#641 [11:16] <macer> !weather białogóra
#642 [11:16] <macer> lutzee: you crash the bot xD
#643 [11:16] <macer> crashed*
#644 [11:17] <lutzee> ._.
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#646 [11:17] <macer> :/
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#649 [11:17] <macer> !ping
#650 [11:17] <GreyBot> macer Your Ping time was 0.546 seconds.
#651 [11:18] <macer> GreyBot: weather danzig
#652 [11:18] <macer> I think he doesn't like to be spammed with weather requests
#653 [11:18] <Morrolan> Might also be the API he uses having a limit on how many requests you can issue per minute.
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#655 [11:19] <macer> Greybot weather pls k thx
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#657 [11:21] <Morrolan> !weather LSZH
#658 [11:21] <GreyBot> Morrolan: From APRSWXNET Winterthur CH, Zurich Airport, Switzerland (4:47p Aug 12 12) temp(78 F / 25.6 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(WSW at 2 mph / 3.2 km/h) hu(50%) dewpnt(58 F / 14 C) bp(29.92 in / 1013 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 4600 ft / 1402 m, Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 12000 ft / 3657 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 23000 ft / 7010 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(2 out of
#659 [11:21] <GreyBot> 16)
#660 [11:21] <GreyBot> Saturday: Partly Cloudy. High: 75 F.
#661 [11:21] <Calinou> !weather LSD
#662 [11:21] <GreyBot> Calinou: From Fayette Co Board of Ed, Lexington, Kentucky (10:21a Aug 12 12) temp(83.5 F / 28.6 C) cond(Clear) wind(SW at 4.0 mph / 6.4 km/h) hu(35%) dewpnt(53 F / 12 C) bp(30.07 in / 1018 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(7 out of 16)
#663 [11:21] <GreyBot> Sunday: Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 84F. Winds less than 5 mph.
#664 [11:22] <Calinou> that's a town? O_o
#665 [11:22] <Morrolan> Heh.
#666 [11:22] <Morrolan> A weather station's code, atleast. ;)
#667 [11:22] <lukegb> !weather 95123
#668 [11:22] <GreyBot> lukegb: From Santa Teresa West, San Jose, California (8:22a Aug 12 12) temp(61.8 F / 16.6 C) cond(Overcast) wind(NNW at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(78%) dewpnt(55 F / 13 C) bp(29.86 in / 1011 hPa (Rising)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 900 ft / 274 m) vis(8.0 miles / 12.9 kilometers) uv(0.9 out of 16)
#669 [11:22] <GreyBot> Sunday: Clear. High of 93F. Winds from the SW at 5 to 10 mph.
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#674 [11:39] <AussieMaggy4510> can anyone say me why my minecraft crashed?
#675 [11:39] <AussieMaggy4510> crash-report:
#676 [11:40] <AussieMaggy4510> http://mibpaste.com/Q3P9MV
#677 [11:40] <Morrolan> Does it work without mods?
#678 [11:40] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
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#680 [11:41] <Morrolan> Then you might want to ask the creator of whichever mod made it crash.
#681 [11:41] <Andrio> Looks like you've got too many mods
#682 [11:41] <Andrio> you've run out of space that ModLoader can assign for the item sprites
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#684 [11:42] <AussieMaggy4510> which mods must be deleted?
#685 [11:42] <Andrio> 'java.lang.Exception: No more empty item sprite indices left!'
#686 [11:42] <AussieMaggy4510> what does it mean?
#687 [11:42] <Morrolan> Too many new items added by mods, seemingly.
#688 [11:42] <Morrolan> New items with new graphics, that is.
#689 [11:43] <AussieMaggy4510> ohh okay thanks.
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#691 [11:44] <AussieMaggy4510> how can i fix it without deleting mods?
#692 [11:44] <Morrolan> Maybe there is a tool which allows for more sprite indices.
#693 [11:44] <Morrolan> You could ask in #risucraft
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#695 [11:44] <Morrolan> Or google.
#696 [11:44] <AussieMaggy4510> thx and bye!
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#698 [11:45] <lutzee> No way to fix that without removing mods, or ask modders to move to the forge API and use the infinite sprite sheets system
#699 [11:45] <Morrolan> Okay.
#700 [11:48] <AussieMaggy4510> whats the 'infinite sprite sheets system'?
#701 [11:49] <lutzee> Where you use how minecraft deals with textures, instead of having an individual file for every texture
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#703 [11:50] <lutzee> 256 images in one file
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#705 [11:54] <Space2> can anyone help me regarding this "Can't connect to minecraft.net" problem? The news in the client loads fine, I have correct version of JAVA and have installed in the correct directory, but I can't figure out the problem :S
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#707 [11:55] <Space2> so when they would be back up? I can't seem to connect from past 2 days
#708 [11:55] <Space2> so when they would be back up? I can't seem to connect from past 2 days
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#710 [11:55] <lutzee> Space2, java version?
#711 [11:56] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#712 [11:56] <Calinou> read /carefully/
#713 [11:56] <Space2> lutzee, version 7?>
#714 [11:56] <Space2> ->
#715 [11:57] <lutzee> Space2, looks at what Calinou said
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#718 [11:57] <mike_> hello
#719 [11:57] <mike_> i need help
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#721 [11:58] <Calinou> yes? starting ToIP daemon...
#722 [11:58] <Calinou> -_- seriously
#723 [12:07] <Space2> Calinou, still no help
#724 [12:07] <Calinou> are you using an antivirus/firewall?
#725 [12:07] <Calinou> if you use AVG disable the link scanner module.
#726 [12:07] <Space2> I use ESET NOD32
#727 [12:07] <Calinou> also using the jar launcher might help: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#728 [12:08] <Calinou> put it on your desktop then run it using java
#729 [12:08] <Calinou> nod32 should be fine; but make sure your firewall doesn't prevent connections to minecraft.net
#730 [12:08] <Space2> it is not
#731 [12:08] <Space2> and your launcher is giving the same problem
#732 [12:09] <Space2> Calinou, I am on a x64 bit windows
#733 [12:09] <Space2> so installing x32 or x64 would make a difference?
#734 [12:09] <Calinou> install x64 java, yes
#735 [12:09] <Calinou> preferably version 6
#736 [12:09] <Space2> link, please :)
#737 [12:09] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#738 [12:09] <Calinou> windows x64
#739 [12:09] <Calinou> (uninstall any other versions of java first)
#740 [12:09] <Space2> yep
#741 [12:10] <Space2> oh yeah, I had jre7
#742 [12:10] <Space2> I think 7 is a bit messed up version
#743 [12:10] <Calinou> it is :)
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#745 [12:11] <Space2> *fingers crossed*
#746 [12:11] <mom> minecraft says it crashed a few days ago. when i log in it loads up but then the screen just goes black and doesn't work
#747 [12:13] <mom> if the servers are down why are other people able to livestream on minecraft
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#750 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> mom: Have you installed mods and texture packs? Does force updating work?
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#753 [12:14] <Carlos> hey guys
#754 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> hi Calinou
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#756 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> hi Carlos
#757 [12:14] <Ond> lukegb :D
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#759 [12:14] <Carlos> I need help portfowarding because i did it all good and it hasnt worked
#760 [12:15] <Ond> I just deleted my .minecraft-folder, but the client is still not able to update. 28% and it hangs :(
#761 [12:15] <Carlos> Can anyone help me over teamviewer?
#762 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: ok, what is your router model?
#763 [12:15] <Carlos> its a Linksys
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#765 [12:15] <mom> i have no mods but i have 4 texture packs
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#767 [12:15] <Space2> Calinou, no help
#768 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: Any model numbers?
#769 [12:15] <Carlos> I followed the guides on youtube and portfoward.com for my model but doesnt work and yea i can give u the model hold on.
#770 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: we prefer to help over text, teamviewer will be used only if there are problems that we can't solve via text
#771 [12:16] <Carlos> Okay
#772 [12:17] <Carlos> WRT54G2
#773 [12:17] <Carlos> is my model
#774 [12:17] <Space2> Calinou, when I start my Minecraft.exe, it makes hs_err_pid4700.txt file, which contains this: http://pastebin.com/uh6J57Ke
#775 [12:18] <Carlos> ive portfowarded it a while back but no 1 has been able to connect these days and it tells me that my ports are closed.
#776 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: OK, go to the Port forwarding panel (I assume you know how, since you said you have done this before)
#777 [12:18] <Ond> "Fatal error (4) connection reset" when the loader tries to update :S
#778 [12:18] <Carlos> Yea i know how
#779 [12:18] <Carlos> k im there
#780 [12:18] <Space2> any idea, Calinou?
#781 [12:19] <Carlos> Im already in the applications and gaming
#782 [12:19] <Carlos> its all filled out and enabled correctly but wont work
#783 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: Can you tell me all entries in the Port Range Forwarding section?
#784 [12:19] <Carlos> Yea
#785 [12:20] * Space2 slaps Calinou around a bit with a large trout
#785 [12:20] * gAme2002 picks up Space2's trout and eats it. Nom! >+++(°> : 763
#785 [12:20] <Calinou> back ;)
#786 [12:20] <Calinou> Ond, are you using AVG? if so disable the link scanner module
#787 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> Carlos don
#788 [12:20] <Carlos> Pmed u
#789 [12:21] <Carlos> ?
#790 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> ??> Carlos dont/pm
#791 [12:21] <VoxelHead> Carlos: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#792 [12:21] <Carlos> o
#793 [12:21] <Carlos> k
#794 [12:21] <Carlos> kk
#795 [12:21] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#796 [12:21] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#797 [12:21] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#798 [12:21] <Calinou> Space2, do what VoxelHead says :)
#799 [12:21] <Carlos> Well its 25565 to 25565
#800 [12:21] <Carlos> and the UDP/TCP is on Both
#801 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> and the IP address is?
#802 [12:21] <Calinou> only TCP is required anyway
#803 [12:21] <Carlos> cant say my ip here
#804 [12:21] <Ond> Calinou: lol thanks
#805 [12:21] <Calinou> don't forget: leave server-ip blank in server.properties
#806 [12:21] <Carlos> Lol
#807 [12:21] <Carlos> I did calinou
#808 [12:21] <Calinou> we can get it using whois Carlos
#809 [12:22] <Carlos> k
#810 [12:22] <Carlos> but for regular people
#811 [12:22] <Carlos> ;o
#812 [12:22] <Carlos> ?
#813 [12:22] <Carlos> oh
#814 [12:22] <Carlos> everyone has it
#815 [12:22] <Space2> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/UKC7ZtdJ
#816 [12:22] <Carlos> 192.168.2.100
#817 [12:22] <Calinou> ^ this is your internal IP not your external IP
#818 [12:22] <Carlos> wait
#819 [12:22] <Calinou> Carlos, go to http://youripis.org
#820 [12:22] <Calinou> and see
#821 [12:22] <Carlos> 192.168.2.1
#822 [12:22] <Calinou> still your internal IP
#823 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: I am asking for his internal IP...
#824 [12:22] <Carlos> k
#825 [12:23] <Carlos> internal is
#826 [12:23] <Carlos> 192.168.1.100
#827 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: Can you open Command Prompt and type in "ipconfig"?
#828 [12:23] <Carlos> Yea
#829 [12:23] <Carlos> done that
#830 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> and it tells you 100?
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#832 [12:23] <lutzee> If he hadn't cut the teamviewer session yesterday i could have fixed it
#833 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: I see
#834 [12:23] <Carlos> Sorry lut
#835 [12:23] <Henkeii> h3ll0
#836 [12:23] <Carlos> disconnected
#837 [12:23] <Calinou> hi Henkeii
#838 [12:23] <Carlos> didnt mean two
#839 [12:23] <Carlos> to
#840 [12:23] <Henkeii> :D
#841 [12:23] <Carlos> yea it tells me 100.
#842 [12:24] <Henkeii> i want to know
#843 [12:24] <Calinou> Space2, getting a console output would help
#844 [12:24] <Henkeii> how i made a piston?
#845 [12:24] <Carlos> lut u want to help now?
#846 [12:24] <Calinou> Henkeii, http://minecraftwiki.net/piston
#847 [12:24] <Calinou> read the wiki
#848 [12:24] <Carlos> But yea it says 100 @ tyteen
#849 [12:24] <Henkeii> ok
#850 [12:24] <Space2> VoxelHead?
#851 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: make sure it's Enabled and you saved it
#852 [12:24] <Calinou> Space2, first, press Windows+R, then type in "control folders" without quotes. then go to the second tab and uncheck "hide known extension types"
#853 [12:24] <Calinou> VoxelHead is a bot
#854 [12:24] <Carlos> it is tyteen
#855 [12:24] <Space2> and then
#856 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: ok, click Port Triggering
#857 [12:25] <Henkeii> What is redtone dust??
#858 [12:25] <Carlos> k
#859 [12:25] <Carlos> i have that enabled too.
#860 [12:25] <Calinou> put the .jar file on your desktop Space2 (the launcher)
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#862 [12:25] <Space2> and
#863 [12:25] <Carlos> might have done that wrong tho
#864 [12:25] <Carlos> :o
#865 [12:25] <Henkeii> Where i find redstone dust???
#866 [12:25] <Carlos> i put 25565 in all of it
#867 [12:25] <Carlos> and enabled
#868 [12:25] <Space2> Calinou?
#869 [12:25] <Calinou> Space2, press Windows+R, type in "cmd" without quotes
#870 [12:25] <Space2> hmm
#871 [12:25] <Calinou> type this: "cd Desktop" without quotes again
#872 [12:26] <Calinou> and finally:
#873 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: you're not supposed to fill in Port Triggering sections
#874 [12:26] <Calinou> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#875 [12:26] <Henkeii> lol
#876 [12:26] <Carlos> oh k
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#878 [12:26] <Henkeii> just kidding
#879 [12:26] <Carlos> i wont
#880 [12:26] <Henkeii> now
#881 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: This is why I asked you to list entries in Port Triggering section, to check if you did
#882 [12:26] <Calinou> Henkeii, it's an ore found deep underground. you need an iron or diamond pickaxe to mine it
#883 [12:26] <Space2> Calinou, no help
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#885 [12:26] <Space2> -.-
#886 [12:26] <Henkeii> hm
#887 [12:26] <Henkeii> ok
#888 [12:26] <Calinou> Space2, yes, but, can you tell me the output it gives?
#889 [12:26] <Carlos> Ok
#890 [12:26] <Henkeii> i just dont know these
#891 [12:26] <Carlos> its disabled there then.
#892 [12:26] <Henkeii> and
#893 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: Just delete it, you won't need port triggering
#894 [12:27] <Carlos> did
#895 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: and then try again
#896 [12:27] <Space2> sec, Calinou
#897 [12:27] <Henkeii> i can help if you guys havequestions?
#898 [12:27] <Space2> http://scrn.tk/Hu.
#899 [12:27] <Space2> There Calinou^
#900 [12:27] <Carlos> i had tried without it before but sure i can try again
#901 [12:27] <Carlos> Tyteen i can always login but none of my friends can.
#902 [12:27] <Calinou> seems legit *facepalm*
#903 [12:27] <Space2> ??
#904 [12:27] <Calinou> Space2, use a site like imgur.com if you want to paste screenshots - I don't really trust .tk usually
#905 [12:27] <Calinou> ;) sorry
#906 [12:28] <Space2> Calinou, trust me I am not one of those retards
#907 [12:28] <Carlos> tyteen
#908 [12:28] <Carlos> can you test the ip?
#909 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> !check c-65-34-244-57.hsd1.fl.comcast.net
#910 [12:28] <Space2> you are helping me, I don't want to hack / molest you :)
#911 [12:28] <Calinou> one sec then - firing up my debian VM, just to be sure
#912 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: turn off any firewalls you have on the router, and on the computer
#913 [12:29] <Carlos> k
#914 [12:29] <Carlos> turned em off
#915 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> added too much water in my noodle, now my soup is not flavoured enough :(
#916 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: then try again
#917 [12:29] <lutzee> from what i saw yesterday on teamveiwer the only thing that could be wrong is the internal IP and computers firewall
#918 [12:29] <Calinou> Space2, your link does not even work anyway
#919 [12:29] <Space2> oh
#920 [12:29] <Space2> ...
#921 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: noted
#922 [12:30] <Space2> sec, Calinou
#923 [12:30] <Space2> http://i45.tinypic.com/2ijovv9.png
#924 [12:30] <Space2> there you go
#925 [12:30] <Calinou> better :)
#926 [12:30] <Space2> :D
#927 [12:30] <Space2> :D
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#929 [12:31] <Calinou> Space2, did you recently install any software? what is the name of that software if so?
#930 [12:31] <lutzee> Calinou, looks like his lastlogin file is corrupt..
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#932 [12:32] <Henkeii> Reinstall minecraft
#933 [12:32] <Space2> Nope, Calinou
#934 [12:32] <Space2> just Java, Java and Java
#935 [12:32] <Henkeii> maybe can help
#936 [12:32] <Calinou> Windows+R - type in %appdata%/.minecraft
#937 [12:32] <Space2> no directory
#938 [12:32] <Calinou> delete the "bin" folder there and restart the game (this will not touch your saves)
#939 [12:32] <Space2> I dont have any .minecraft dir
#940 [12:33] <Space2> I do but it is empty
#941 [12:33] <Calinou> try running the game as administrator? (right click > properties)
#942 [12:33] <Carlos> k
#943 [12:33] <Space2> I did
#944 [12:33] <Carlos> trying
#945 [12:33] <Carlos> Okay
#946 [12:33] <Henkeii> If your SO its 7 search %appdata%
#947 [12:33] <Carlos> can u test it tyteen
#948 [12:34] <Carlos> ?
#949 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: make sure you're not doing the things Calinou said, they're not directed at you
#950 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> !check c-65-34-244-57.hsd1.fl.comcast.net
#951 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> yup
#952 [12:34] <Calinou> congrats Carlos ;)
#953 [12:34] <Carlos> i havent done that
#954 [12:34] <Space2> Calinou, http://i48.tinypic.com/34nrtjc.png
#955 [12:34] <Carlos> YES
#956 [12:34] <Carlos> FINALLY
#957 [12:34] <Carlos> now.
#958 [12:34] <Carlos> i need a test subject
#959 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: what is your antivirus software?
#960 [12:34] <Space2> the whole list, Calinou
#961 [12:34] <Carlos> Norton
#962 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: uninstall it
#963 [12:35] <Carlos> i disbaled my computer firewall norton fireall and anti protect
#964 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: It hates Minecraft
#965 [12:35] <Carlos> Lol
#966 [12:35] <Carlos> Yea
#967 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> It is also one of the crappiest AV you can ever have
#968 [12:35] <Carlos> I heard lol
#969 [12:35] <Carlos> So people can connect now i guess
#970 [12:35] <Carlos> I gotta go test it then
#971 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> Carlos: yes, test with your external IP
#972 [12:35] <Carlos> Thanks both for helping ill be back if any problems come up
#973 [12:35] <Carlos> yera
#974 [12:35] <Carlos> i use ipchicken
#975 [12:35] <Carlos> :P
#976 [12:35] <Carlos> thanks
#977 [12:36] <Henkeii> Hey, how can i disable the minecraft 1.3.1 for run a in a internal server, multiplayer lags annoy me.
#978 [12:37] <lutzee> 1.3.1 can only run an internal server
#979 [12:37] <Space2> hmm strange question, but can Superfetch and prefetch affect my Minecraft?
#980 [12:37] <Space2> because I have disabled it recently
#981 [12:37] <lutzee> Infact, running an internal server should be less laggy
#982 [12:37] <Henkeii> no its not
#983 [12:37] <Henkeii> mobs can lag
#984 [12:37] <Henkeii> if you punch them
#985 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> Henkeii: It's because the client handled them before
#986 [12:38] <Henkeii> hm
#987 [12:38] <lutzee> Henkeii, do you have a CPU with more than one core?
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#989 [12:38] <Henkeii> nopsss
#990 [12:38] <Eddie> Warp core breach in progress
#991 [12:38] <lutzee> probably why then..
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#994 [12:39] <Henkeii> They said to me use Optifine
#995 [12:39] <Henkeii> i use, but this dont solve aaaaall the problems
#996 [12:39] <Calinou> <Henkeii> Hey, how can i disable the minecraft 1.3.1 for run a in a internal server, multiplayer lags annoy me.
#997 [12:39] <Calinou> you can't
#998 [12:39] <Calinou> also, local server barely lags...
#999 [12:40] <lutzee> Get a multicore CPU PC it will run a lot better
#1000 [12:40] <Henkeii> hey guyz my pc its not a piece of trsh =D
#1001 [12:40] <Henkeii> kk
#1002 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Eddit: wat
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#1004 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Space2: Superfetch and prefetch improves performance for start-up
#1005 [12:41] <scoobydkr> can't log in
#1006 [12:41] <Henkeii> yes, i heard Minecraft its not the video card
#1007 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> !login
#1008 [12:41] <scoobydkr> any help
#1009 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> scoobydkr: What message was shown when you log in?
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#1011 [12:42] <Henkeii> hey
#1012 [12:42] <Henkeii> here's my PC
#1013 [12:42] <scoobydkr> accont migraeted
#1014 [12:42] <Henkeii> check it out
#1015 [12:42] <Henkeii> http://www.firstplace.com.br/loja/computador/core_i3_gamer
#1016 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> scoobydkr: login with your email
#1017 [12:43] <Calinou> ?? win/hosts
#1018 [12:43] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1019 [12:43] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1020 [12:43] <Henkeii> see?
#1021 [12:43] <scoobydkr> done that says password is wrong so got them to send email but im not getting the email
#1022 [12:45] <Henkeii> what is your problem scoobydrk?
#1023 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> scoobydkr: When you migrated your account, did you specify a new email?
#1024 [12:45] * Pepper is now known as :Pepper[Away]
#1025 [12:45] <scoobydkr> no
#1026 [12:46] <scoobydkr> i'll try my other accont
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#1030 [12:47] <Delvingki> .
#1031 [12:48] <Calinou> hi
#1032 [12:48] <Henkeii> Hi
#1033 [12:49] <scoobydkr> thanks tyteen4ao3 it was me being dull lol
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#1035 [12:50] <Calinou> jasmine was humilated by Calinou's peashooter for using an awfully long quitmessage
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#1037 [12:51] <Delvingki> Hi, brand new to mine craft here, my client is freezing on an update / loading screen. Does anyone know if that is likley due servers being down? thanks
#1038 [12:51] <Calinou> Delvingki, are you using AVG? if so disable the "link scanner" module
#1039 [12:51] <imlach> Has anyone got an email address for customer support or similar?
#1040 [12:51] <Delvingki> Thanks, yes I am. I thought I tried dissabling AVG but will have another go
#1041 [12:52] <Calinou> mojang support does have an email address; the response time is very, very long, average 8 weeks (yes)
#1042 [12:52] <Calinou> Delvingki, make sure you allow minecraft in your firewall too.
#1043 [12:52] <imlach> Great...
#1044 [12:52] <imlach> Any ideas on how to poke them for a quicker response?
#1045 [12:53] <Delvingki> will do ty
#1046 [12:53] <Calinou> not really - you could try contacting the mojang people on twitter though, but that requires /a lot/ of luck. ;)
#1047 [12:53] <imlach> Hmm
#1048 [12:53] <Calinou> http://twitter.com/jeb_ < here's jeb's twitter, if you want
#1049 [12:53] * tips48|away is now known as :tips48
#1050 [12:53] <Calinou> !paid Sop
#1051 [12:53] <imlach> yeah, I knew about that but I didn't really want to spam him with "HALP"
#1052 [12:56] <Henkeii> How can i help yours questions??
#1053 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> imlach - The only way to get an account question/issue responded to, is to use the ticket system.
#1054 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> imlach - Unfortunately, it does mean waiting for them to clear up a two month backlog of emails.
#1055 [12:57] <imlach> cheers GreyVulpine, its a bit of a pain though.
#1056 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> We know..
#1057 [12:58] <imlach> yeah, ach well
#1058 [12:58] <Delvingki> Hmm fire wall and avg are disabled, my client is still freezing on "updating Minecraft - done loading" any other ideas? (bar at ~90%) I could try in linux but would prefer to have windows working as well
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#1060 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Delvingki - Has it ever worked before
#1061 [12:59] <Delvingki> no, im new to the game
#1062 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay. What version of windows?
#1063 [12:59] <Delvingki> checking
#1064 [12:59] <Delvingki> xp sp3
#1065 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#1066 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the Run command, type in: %userprofile%
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#1068 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if the user folder it takes you to, has a ! symbol in the name
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#1070 [13:01] <Delvingki> no !
#1071 [13:01] <Delvingki> * sry no name! in folder
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#1073 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> The C:\Documents and settings\Username\ folder only has letters and/or numbers in it?
#1074 [13:02] <Delvingki> yep thats right
#1075 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying out the demo, or do you have a premium account?
#1076 [13:02] <Delvingki> just the demo so far
#1077 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that'll be why. The demo right now, doesn't work
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#1079 [13:03] <Delvingki> ah... we thats a straight forward answer. does it work in linux?
#1080 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> It's currently bugged, doesn't actually download the files for the demo.
#1081 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> I don't think the demo works in linux either.
#1082 [13:04] <Delvingki> oh, ok well thanks for your help there! thats saves a lot more trouble shooting
#1083 [13:04] <Delvingki> I will go and check out the $$ version
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#1085 [13:04] <clodfelter> can someone help me?
#1086 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the premium/paid-for version works just fine. Just Mojang's rolling out of the demo last version is currently bugged.
#1087 [13:05] <clodfelter> can someone help me please?
#1088 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1089 [13:06] <clodfelter> when i run my minecraft after i log in the screen goes black?
#1090 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
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#1092 [13:07] <clodfelter> yes then my computer was acting up so i did a restore restore and now it dont
#1093 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay. What operating system are you running?
#1094 [13:07] <clodfelter> ?
#1095 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you on windows? mac? linux?
#1096 [13:07] <clodfelter> windows
#1097 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows? XP? Vista? 7?
#1098 [13:08] <clodfelter> windows 7
#1099 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Please go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1100 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside and delete everything but the 'saves' folder.
#1101 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> When you run minecraft and log back in, it should redownload all those files.
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#1107 [13:14] <clodfelter> it worked ty so much
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#1112 [13:17] <bejoe905> Has mollstam said anything on twitter about session servers?
#1113 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Don't think so..
#1114 [13:18] <lutzee> all the servers seem to be operational
#1115 [13:18] <Eddie> "fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"
#1116 [13:19] <Eddie> Fire at will Commander!
#1117 [13:19] <bejoe905> Firing...
#1118 [13:19] <lutzee> who's will?
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#1120 [13:20] <Eddie> urfunneh
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#1122 [13:22] <superghandi88> I am unable to update my version of minecraft, when I choose for it to update, it starts to download but usually will freeze and stop downloading at a progress of between 5% and 12%, how can I get my update to go through all the way?
#1123 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Running AVG perchance?
#1124 [13:23] <superghandi88> I do have AVG on my laptop, does that cause issues?
#1125 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Disable the 'linkscanner' module in AVG's options, then run minecraft again
#1126 [13:24] <superghandi88> thank you i will try that
#1127 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> You can reenable it once minecraft finishes downloading
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#1130 [13:29] <superghandi88> That worked, thanks for your help GreyVulpine
#1131 [13:29] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1131 [13:29] <tips48> :P
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#1133 [13:30] * GreyVulpine tips tips48
#1133 [13:30] * tips48 falls
#1133 [13:31] * GreyVulpine props tips48 back up.
#1133 [13:31] * tips48 hugs GreyVulpine in a manly way
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#1138 [13:37] <uplusion23> I really need help. I've contacted mojang support with no response. My account has been stolen.
#1139 [13:37] <uplusion23> Please, Anyone? I've gone two days without Minecraft now, And owning a server is pretty difficult from commands.
#1140 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> As we're community-run support, we cannot do anything about account issues. Mojang has a two-month backlog of support tickets
#1141 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> uplusion23: If your account's been stolen, use the Forget Password function
#1142 [13:38] <uplusion23> tyteen4a03 I've tried that, but they say that the account is no longer with my Email Address
#1143 [13:39] <skimboard1> ummmm, 1.3.1 minecraft is NOT working. i can't die! no way possible!
#1144 [13:39] <skimboard1> i was in lava for 15 minutes, still haven't died. any suggestions?
#1145 [13:40] <uplusion23> Your server must be lagging Skimboard1
#1146 [13:40] <uplusion23> Or, you have a god mode on.
#1147 [13:40] <skimboard1> nope
#1148 [13:40] <uplusion23> Odd.
#1149 [13:40] <skimboard1> i dont have spc
#1150 [13:40] <skimboard1> idk what to do...
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#1152 [13:41] <uplusion23> What mods do you have?
#1153 [13:41] <uplusion23> Are you in creative mode?
#1154 [13:41] <skimboard1> tmi, thats all
#1155 [13:41] <skimboard1> and no, im not
#1156 [13:41] <uplusion23> Well. This is weird.
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#1158 [13:41] <uplusion23> Did it happen with only that world?
#1159 [13:41] <skimboard1> no, in every world
#1160 [13:42] <skimboard1> and it was like that before i got tmi
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#1162 [13:42] <uplusion23> Hmm.
#1163 [13:42] <skimboard1> plus, before i updated it, it worked fine'
#1164 [13:42] <uplusion23> Maybe you should try a fresh install of Minecraft.
#1165 [13:42] <uplusion23> Maybe you should try a fresh install of Minecraft.
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#1167 [13:42] <skimboard1> meaning?
#1168 [13:43] <skimboard1> like just, delete it then re install it?
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#1170 [13:43] <uplusion23> Restart Minecraf
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#1172 [13:43] <skimboard1> kk
#1173 [13:43] <uplusion23> When it asks to log in, Click options
#1174 [13:43] <skimboard1> ill try
#1175 [13:43] <uplusion23> Then go to Force Update
#1176 [13:44] <skimboard1> wait, force update AFTER it logs in?
#1177 [13:44] <uplusion23> Nope
#1178 [13:44] <uplusion23> Before
#1179 [13:44] <skimboard1> okay
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#1182 [13:45] <skimboard1> and then log in?
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#1184 [13:45] <skimboard1> after you tell it 2 force update?
#1185 [13:45] <uplusion23> Yes
#1186 [13:45] <skimboard1> k
#1187 [13:45] <skimboard1> its updating...
#1188 [13:45] <uplusion23> Okay
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#1191 [13:46] <skimboard1> nope, didnt work
#1192 [13:46] <uplusion23> Merh.
#1193 [13:46] <uplusion23> I'm stumped then.
#1194 [13:46] <uplusion23> Sorry. :/
#1195 [13:46] <skimboard1> well...
#1196 [13:46] <uplusion23> What Operating System are you on?
#1197 [13:46] <mom> unable to actually load minecraft - after I forced updated the program froze
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#1199 [13:46] <skimboard1> there's only one more thing that couldve hapened
#1200 [13:47] <uplusion23> mom: Maybe your video card drivers are incompatible
#1201 [13:47] <skimboard1> no
#1202 [13:47] <skimboard1> i think o know
#1203 [13:47] <skimboard1> when mc crashed last time, i had spc
#1204 [13:47] <uplusion23> skimboard1: What operating system are you using?
#1205 [13:47] <skimboard1> i used to set my helath to full
#1206 [13:47] <skimboard1> maybe thats it
#1207 [13:48] <skimboard1> and im on a windows inspiron
#1208 [13:48] <skimboard1> dell
#1209 [13:48] <uplusion23> Maybe so, Reinstall SPC, and turn off the health.
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#1211 [13:49] <mom> it told me that minecraft crashed a couple of days ago. I would log in and then the screen would just go black. was told on here to force update which did allow the screen to pop up but then the system froze
#1212 [13:49] <uplusion23> mom: Are you sure your PC is a ble to run Minecraft?
#1213 [13:50] <mom> yes
#1214 [13:50] <mom> always able to get on until it said it crashed
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#1217 [13:51] <uplusion23> mom: Do a 100% full reset of your .minecraft, folder, if Possible.
#1218 [13:51] <uplusion23> mom: You can keep the worlds if you need to.
#1219 [13:51] <mom> how do i do that
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#1223 [13:53] <mom> how do i do a full 100% restart of my .minecraft folder
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#1226 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> mom forceupdate
#1227 [13:54] <VoxelHead> mom: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#1229 [13:54] <VoxelHead> mom: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1230 [13:55] <uplusion23> mom: Go to Start>Type in 'Run'>Run the Run Application>Type %appdata% And hit ENTER>Go to Roaming>Go to .Minecraft>Then delete the files
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#1234 [13:58] <mom> i have a desktop thats from 2007 i cant klick enter and or do roaming
#1235 [13:58] <mom> click*
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#1239 [14:02] <mom> can any body help me?
#1240 [14:02] <mom> People keep leaving and joining
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#1242 [14:03] <Austain> Help
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#1244 [14:03] <Austain> someone?
#1245 [14:04] <zen> Austain, youu'll have to tell us the problem before we can help you
#1246 [14:04] <Austain> k
#1247 [14:04] <Austain> I wanna download this texture mod
#1248 [14:04] <mom> already have ....
#1249 [14:04] <Austain> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/824150-64x131-soartex-fanver-hd-smooth-texture-pack/
#1250 [14:04] <zen> mom, this is a public channel there is always people coming and going, you'll have to explain a bit further you're problem
#1251 [14:04] <Austain> But I wonder which one to download
#1252 [14:04] <Austain> I have Vanella mod
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#1254 [14:05] <Austain> But still wanna know which one
#1255 [14:05] <Austain> to download
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#1257 [14:05] <zen> Austain, it's up to you you will be the one using it
#1258 [14:05] <mom> a couple of days ago minecraft said it crashed and then closed out. I attempted several times to login . it would say loading then turn the screen black
#1259 [14:06] <Austain> Mom
#1260 [14:06] <mom> I have forced update which i was told to do on here but that didn't help
#1261 [14:06] <Austain> Delete the META INF
#1262 [14:06] <Austain> Delete the META INF in ur java
#1263 [14:06] <Austain> thing
#1264 [14:06] <zen> Austain, that won't do anything
#1265 [14:06] <Austain> It did
#1266 [14:06] <Austain> for me before
#1267 [14:06] <dutchman> Hi there, am trying to play the deom
#1268 [14:06] <zen> ?? win/reinst
#1269 [14:06] <mom> i will try
#1270 [14:06] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1271 [14:06] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1272 [14:06] <mom> how
#1273 [14:06] <zen> mom see what VoxelHead says
#1274 [14:07] <dutchman> err DEMO , but after i log in the screen locks at updating Minecraft
#1275 [14:07] <zen> Austain, mom is not installing mods
#1276 [14:07] <mom> wheres windows keys
#1277 [14:07] <Austain> kk
#1278 [14:07] <Austain> ty for the help anyway
#1279 [14:07] <zen> dutchman, the demo is not currently working, this a known error
#1280 [14:07] <Austain> :D
#1281 [14:07] <Austain> :D
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#1283 [14:07] <zen> mom, the key between the ctrl and alt keys on your keyboard
#1284 [14:07] <dutchman> oh? so i must purchase the game to try it ?
#1285 [14:08] <dutchman> Or will the demo be working again soon?
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#1287 [14:08] <zen> dutchman, at the moment this is the case, if you don't feel safe in doing that you can wait till the problem is fixed
#1288 [14:08] <zen> We don't currently know when it will be fixed
#1289 [14:08] <uplusion23> mom: Use the window key, near the spacebar. Press it+'R'
#1290 [14:09] <dutchman> ok thnx
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#1296 [14:14] <mom> it says it cant connect to minecraft.net and it also says that playing offline is not downloaded
#1297 [14:15] <zen> mom, what antivirus software is installed on the PC?
#1298 [14:15] <mom> abg
#1299 [14:15] <mom> avg
#1300 [14:16] <mom> but we have had this game since May and this is the very first problem we have had
#1301 [14:16] <uplusion23> mom: Are you the administrator on the computer?
#1302 [14:16] <uplusion23> mom: What is your Antivirus Software?
#1303 [14:16] <mom> yes
#1304 [14:16] <mom> yes
#1305 [14:16] <mom> avg
#1306 [14:16] <uplusion23> mom: Have you let Minecraft through the firewall?
#1307 [14:16] <mom> yes
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#1309 [14:17] <uplusion23> Try running Minecraft as the administrator.
#1310 [14:17] <mkrnok> hey guys
#1311 [14:17] <mkrnok> question
#1312 [14:17] <mom> here is the deal - never had a problem for months ... why now? i did what volke guy said and it didn't work
#1313 [14:17] <mkrnok> im running a bukkit server and using towny it kept crashing my server any known reasons?
#1314 [14:17] <mom> was it the update for minecraft 1.3.1
#1315 [14:17] <uplusion23> mkrnok: Use pastebin, paste the error.
#1316 [14:18] <mkrnok> wellit was after 1.3
#1317 [14:18] <uplusion23> mom: It seems to be a network issue
#1318 [14:18] <mkrnok> never did it b4
#1319 [14:18] <uplusion23> mkrnok: Paste the error please.
#1320 [14:18] <mkrnok> started with a severe issue with towny chat and reg chat
#1321 [14:18] <mkrnok> id have to fid it
#1322 [14:18] <mkrnok> sec
#1323 [14:18] <uplusion23> mrkronk: And use Pastebin
#1324 [14:18] <mkrnok> ok lemme look for it
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#1326 [14:19] <mom> whats wrong with the network
#1327 [14:19] <uplusion23> mom: Seems that Minecraft Launcher can't access the internet.
#1328 [14:19] <zen> ??> mkrnok mods
#1329 [14:20] <VoxelHead> mkrnok: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1330 [14:20] <VoxelHead> mkrnok: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1331 [14:20] <uplusion23> mom: Try downloading minecraft.jar yourself
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#1333 [14:20] <mom> is that just me or everyone
#1334 [14:20] <mom> ok i willl try
#1335 [14:20] <mom> but how
#1336 [14:20] <zen> that was too mkrnok
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#1338 [14:21] <uplusion23> zen: He said it happened after the 1.3.1 update. That means it wasn't necessarily the Mod/plugin, but more of Minecraft, or Bukkit.
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#1340 [14:21] <zen> uplusion23, plugins sometimes need updating
#1341 [14:21] <mom> should i reget evrything i dleted out of .minecraft folder
#1342 [14:22] <uplusion23> mom: Yes
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#1344 [14:22] <uplusion23> zen: I know, That's why I was waiting for the error, to see if ti was that.
#1345 [14:23] <zen> #bukkit will be more help for him
#1346 [14:23] <mom> what shoould i do now
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#1348 [14:23] <uplusion23> zen: Yes, but why send him off somewhere where he is not guaranteed help?
#1349 [14:24] <uplusion23> mom: Try starting Minecraft as the Administrator
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#1351 [14:24] <zen> Because this help channel is for minecraft help, 3rd party applications should go to the respective help channels
#1352 [14:24] <mom> whats the administartor
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#1354 [14:26] <uplusion23> zen: I've been asking around many IRC Channels for specific things of the name, Such as #C#, #Minecrafthelp, But they talk about things other than the name. People don't follow along the right path, so why lead others that way?
#1355 [14:26] <uplusion23> mom: Right click Minecraft.exe, and Click 'Run as Administrator"
#1356 [14:27] <zen> uplusion23, some channels allow offtopic talk some don't but we have to follow channel rules and there is plenty of people in #bukkit who can help
#1357 [14:28] <uplusion23> zen: Well, see, If I can help, why not? I'm a person, and there's plenty of people here to help him. Sorry I don't decide to be an afk IRC user.
#1358 [14:29] <mom> where do I find that file? minecraft.exe
#1359 [14:29] <mom> is it my normal log in one?
#1360 [14:29] <uplusion23> You download it from http://www.minecraft,net/
#1361 [14:29] <uplusion23> You download it from http://www.minecraft.net/ *
#1362 [14:29] <mom> is that to me uplusion23
#1363 [14:29] <uplusion23> Yes
#1364 [14:29] <mom> ok will try
#1365 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> mom: Uninstall AVG
#1366 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> mom: Use a more decent antivirus instead, like Avast
#1367 [14:30] <zen> Or microsoft security essentials
#1368 [14:31] <mom> no... shouldn't have to. why now after all these months
#1369 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> mom: because AVG sucks
#1370 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> it can cause problem at any second
#1371 [14:31] <mom> real question is ... do I have to re download minecraft.exe
#1372 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> mom: No
#1373 [14:31] <uplusion23> mom: AVG is also intrusive and annoying. And Not if you have it.
#1374 [14:32] <mom> then where would I find minecraft.exe on my computer? under doc?
#1375 [14:32] <tyteen4a03> mom: How do you log into Minecraft usually?
#1376 [14:32] <uplusion23> mom: Wherever you installed it.
#1377 [14:32] <tyteen4a03> mom: use the Minecraft.exe you usually use to launch Minecraft
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#1380 [14:33] <mom> well i have minecraft on my desktop si i doulbed click it says run i run it says login i login then it loads and i click my worlds and servers or what i want to do and i play
#1381 [14:34] <zkxs> Have you had her do a win/reinst yet?
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#1383 [14:35] <zen> zkxs, yes
#1384 [14:36] <zkxs> and now the current problem is that she can't connect to minecraft.net to download the game?
#1385 [14:36] <zen> correct, which is odd
#1386 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> mom: Then use that
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#1388 [14:36] <zen> we seem to be going back in the scheme of things..
#1389 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: she also had AVG
#1390 [14:37] <zkxs> It could be the auth servers being glitchy again?
#1391 [14:37] <zen> Also, it's so hard trying to explain things to non computer literate adults
#1392 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> !login
#1393 [14:37] <zkxs> AVG won't prevent logins, but it has the possibility of stalling the download
#1394 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: it just sucks in general anyways :P but ok
#1395 [14:37] <zkxs> If she is just getting "can't connect" she doesn't need to get rid of AVG
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#1400 [14:39] <zkxs> And now she is gone?
#1401 [14:39] <computerproblem> im trying to place a seed into my mc multiplayer server. i went into the serer properties file and placed the seed in. then when i run my server it still generates a random seed. am i doing something wrong?
#1402 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: she's like that
#1403 [14:41] <zen> computerproblem, If the seed is designed for an older version of the game it won't work, seens are version specific
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#1407 [14:43] <computerproblem> i tried the seed in single player
#1408 [14:43] <computerproblem> it worked
#1409 [14:43] <computerproblem> how come it wont work for multiplayer because it keeps giving me a random generated seed?
#1410 [14:44] <zkxs> Do you already have a world generated? You should delete it if you do
#1411 [14:44] <computerproblem> how do i delete my world?
#1412 [14:45] <zkxs> delete the world folder in the server's directory
#1413 [14:45] <computerproblem> oh ty
#1414 [14:46] <zkxs> Changing the seed won't magically change an existing world, it just affects the generation of new chunks. So you want to delete ALL the chunks :)
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#1435 [15:28] <OffMercy> I keep on getting an End Of Stream..
#1436 [15:28] <OffMercy> why is that?
#1437 [15:28] <OffMercy> my server is running on 6GB's..
#1438 [15:28] <OffMercy> and it lags all the time
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#1442 [15:33] <superuserperson4> why won't my LAN work properly
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#1447 [15:35] <superuserperson4> Hello?
#1448 [15:35] <Kealper> your LAN what?
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#1450 [15:35] <Kealper> :|
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#1452 [15:42] <OffMercy> so i keep giving my friend permission to make an admin shop
#1453 [15:42] <OffMercy> but its still not working!!!
#1454 [15:43] <zen> OffMercy, you will want to ask in #bukkit for bukkit help
#1455 [15:43] <OffMercy> uhhh..
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#1463 [15:50] <Louie_> I need help!
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#1465 [15:51] <zkxs> Louie_: what's wrong?
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#1468 [15:52] <Louie_> When i try to go into a world, my browser shuts down and another browser on my desktop pops up. How do i fix this?
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#1470 [15:52] <zkxs> Louie_: Try using the downloaded client instead. What Operating System do you run?
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#1472 [15:54] <Louie_> i did use the downloading client and i also redownloaded it 2 times.
#1473 [15:54] <zkxs> You are using minecraft.exe? https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1474 [15:55] <zkxs> If you are using the launcher, you shouldn't have strange browser problems
#1475 [15:55] <Louie_> Yes. The desktop browser that keeps on popping up is hs err pid.
#1476 [15:55] <zen> ahh
#1477 [15:55] <zkxs> ...
#1478 [15:56] <Louie_> If i open the browser up it says that there is an error and a bunch of codes are there
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#1480 [15:57] <zkxs> Could you copy and paste those codes to pastebin.com, click submit, and give us the URL of the page it takes you to?
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#1484 [16:00] <Louie_> yes
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#1489 [16:06] <Kealper> completely ignore what i'm putting right now, i'm testing something with AuBot http://pastebin.com/Uiyx3AuF
#1490 [16:06] <Kealper> hmm
#1491 [16:07] <Kealper> guess that wasn't correct then
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#1493 [16:08] <Louie_> ok i put the codes and everything and submited them in pastebin.com
#1494 [16:09] <zen> Louie_, we need the link to the page from the address bar
#1495 [16:11] <Louie_> its not a link in the address bar. It pops up in my notepad
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#1497 [16:12] <zen> yes, you copied that and posted it on pastebin, that page it gives you should give a custom link in the address bar
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#1499 [16:12] <tyteen4a03> Kealper: what is that?
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#1502 [16:15] <Louie_> there is no link to send it.
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#1504 [16:16] <zen> zkxs, ^
#1505 [16:16] <Kealper> Louie_: it is in the top of your browser, where it says the address, like pastebin.com/Ajfhas or something
#1506 [16:16] <Kealper> tyteen4a03: something i'm testing with AuBot
#1507 [16:17] <Louie_> it is not an address. Its in my notepad or microsoft word so there is no address bar
#1508 [16:17] <Kealper> Louie_: you did put it on http://pastebin.com right?
#1509 [16:19] <Louie_> i put the codes in on pastebin.com but i cant put a link
#1510 [16:19] <Kealper> did you press the Submit button on pastebin.com after you put them in the site?
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#1512 [16:20] <Louie_> yes
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#1514 [16:21] <zen> Did you add a name to the paste?
#1515 [16:21] <Kealper> then it you should have no problems clicking in the address bar of your browser and giving us the URL...
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#1517 [16:23] <Kealper> actually i have a better idea
#1518 [16:23] <Louie_> There is no URL on microsoft word
#1519 [16:23] <Kealper> Louie_: can you re-submit that data (the one in the hs_err_pid file) on to this website and press "Create Paste" http://paste.kealper.com/
#1520 [16:24] <Kealper> TheNoodle: lol
#1521 [16:25] <TheNoodle> :D
#1522 [16:25] * zen feels left out
#1522 [16:26] * Kealper still doesn't see the paste that Louie_ is supposed to make
#1522 [16:27] <Kealper> Louie_: right click in Microsoft Word, click "Select All", right click again right where you did the last time, click "Copy", go to http://paste.kealper.com and in that big white box right below the "Paste contents:" text, right click and then select "Paste", after you've done that click the button below that white box that says "Create Paste"
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#1524 [16:28] <Kealper> or get disconnected, that's cool too
#1525 [16:29] <Kealper> anyways
#1526 [16:29] <zen> Trying to help non computer literate people can get very frustrating :/
#1527 [16:31] <Kealper> zen: that paste.kealper.com site is a pastebin-esque site i recently made because i was bored... i've also made a way for me to see all current pastes in its database, and while i was refreshing that to see if Louie_ had done what i asked, TheNoodle made a paste that only had the text "HUGS" in it lol
#1528 [16:31] <TheNoodle> <3
#1529 [16:31] <zen> ahhhh lmao
#1530 [16:32] <zen> Okay back to crying over the fact i still haven't bought PC parts.
#1531 [16:32] <Kealper> i was just going to try and get that person to paste it there since i could easily get the URL to their paste myself
#1532 [16:32] <Kealper> buy PC parts >:|
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#1534 [16:33] <zen> Kealper, i'm ona a pentium 4, i NEED a anew PC
#1535 [16:33] <Kealper> o.o
#1536 [16:33] <Kealper> oh my
#1537 [16:34] <zen> Graphics card is a 4550
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#1542 [16:47] <Kealper> anywho, testing once more... http://pastebin.com/Uiyx3AuF
#1543 [16:47] <Kealper> man that one is going to be a pain in the butt to detect, i can just feel it...
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#1546 [16:49] <Kealper> testing again.... this is probably going to get real old real fast.. http://pastebin.com/Uiyx3AuF
#1547 [16:50] * Kealper sighs
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#1548 [16:50] <xkillcamx> Hi, when i want to login on minecraft it says, : Can't connect to minecraft.net
#1549 [16:50] <Kealper> !login
#1550 [16:50] <Kealper> xkillcamx: hmm... did this just start happening?
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#1552 [16:51] <xkillcamx> i didn't play minecraft for a few weeks
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#1554 [16:51] <xkillcamx> and now i want to play it and i cant log in.
#1555 [16:51] <Kealper> xkillcamx: do you have any antivirus software, or firewall software installed?
#1556 [16:51] <zen> xkillcamx, is the top part of the launcher grey? also ^
#1557 [16:52] <Kealper> one again ignore this message, testing something http://pastebin.com/Uiyx3AuF
#1558 [16:52] <Kealper> aha!
#1559 [16:52] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (win/cleartype) Open the control panel. Choose Appearance and Personalization. At the very bottom, choose ClearType Tuner. If a personalization wizard appears, complete it.
#1560 [16:52] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (win/cleartype) Once in the cleartype settings, make sure there are no settings that have crazy values. If you see one, adjust it and it should fix itself. Press OK to close the settings windows. Try running minecraft again.
#1561 [16:53] <xkillcamx> the below is black
#1562 [16:53] <zen> ?? win/!
#1563 [16:53] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1564 [16:53] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1565 [16:55] <Boreeas> Herr E
#1566 [16:55] <xkillcamx> the rest of the Launcher seems normal, but the below half is black.
#1567 [16:55] <zen> xkillcamx, follow what VoxelHead just said
#1568 [16:56] <zen> about the exclamation marks
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#1570 [16:57] <xkillcamx> Thanks it worked :)
#1571 [16:57] <Kealper> zen: i commend you for catching that one
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#1573 [16:58] <zen> He obviously must have a new computer and wanted to return to the game
#1574 [16:58] <Kealper> probably, and probably named his user account like KillCam! or something
#1575 [16:59] * Kealper takes note that the launcher acts dumb with the ! error now
#1575 [17:00] <Kealper> it used to let you log in perfectly fine, and then once Minecraft itself tried to load, it'd asplode
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#1577 [17:01] <millis> awh so they r down
#1578 [17:01] <zen> what are down?
#1579 [17:01] <zen> hm
#1580 [17:01] <zen> hm
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#1584 [17:01] <zen> Kealper, who has +F here?
#1585 [17:02] <Gadget> can anyone help me
#1586 [17:02] <zen> ??> Gadget ask
#1587 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Gadget: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1588 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Gadget: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1589 [17:03] <Gadget> i purchased the game today on paypal and it shows on paypal that the transaction went through but when i went to play it said i am not prineum
#1590 [17:04] <Kealper> zen: +F as an account mode in the channel?
#1591 [17:04] <Boreeas> zen: /cs info #minecrafthelp
#1592 [17:04] <Gadget> sorry about my spelling
#1593 [17:04] <zen> Kealper, yeah it's founder
#1594 [17:05] <millis> can u guys log into minecraft/
#1595 [17:05] <millis> ?
#1596 [17:05] <Kealper> zen: what Boreeas said, but short answer is TrueWolves and GreyVulpine
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#1598 [17:05] <zen> anyway chanserv is still telling everyone that session servers are down
#1599 [17:05] <Gadget> so what do i do
#1600 [17:05] <zen> Gadget, how long ago exactly?
#1601 [17:06] <Gadget> it was about 6 hours ago
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#1604 [17:07] <Gadget> should i try emailing notch
#1605 [17:07] <zen> hmm, give it 24 hours
#1606 [17:07] <Gadget> ok
#1607 [17:07] <zen> Sometimes it can take a while for the money to reach mojang
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#1609 [17:07] <Gadget> and if it is not working in 24 what do i do
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#1611 [17:07] <zen> you would submit a ticket here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1612 [17:07] <Gadget> ok
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#1614 [17:07] <zen> including the transaction ID from paypal
#1615 [17:08] <Gadget> should i also try emailing notch
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#1617 [17:08] <zen> It would probably get ignored
#1618 [17:08] <Gadget> ok
#1619 [17:08] <millis> it will get ignored xD
#1620 [17:08] <Gadget> what if the ticket does not work
#1621 [17:09] <Gadget> i used up all my allowance for this
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#1623 [17:09] <millis> it took my mc a day to register
#1624 [17:09] <Gadget> ok
#1625 [17:09] <zen> It should be fine as long as your provide the relevant information
#1626 [17:09] <Gadget> ok
#1627 [17:09] <Gadget> thank you very much
#1628 [17:09] <Gadget> bye
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#1632 [17:17] <Galaxy_Stranger> Howdy Ho! I just tried to download the server .jar file here to upgrade to 1.3.1: http://www.minecraft.net/download and it gives me a .zip file - am I doing something wrong, or do I have to compile it?
#1633 [17:19] <zen> here https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#1634 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> Galaxy_Stranger: You have to unzip the zip file...
#1635 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> Galaxy_Stranger: Java does not need compiling - it's done when it's turned into a jar file
#1636 [17:21] <zen> tyteen4a03, the only file thats a zip from mojang is the mac application
#1637 [17:21] <tyteen4a03> zen: oh right
#1638 [17:21] <Galaxy_Stranger> thanks - but I click "save as" and it saves it as a .zip file. Before, I had renamed it .jar and that didn't seem to work
#1639 [17:22] <zen> what browser? o.o
#1640 [17:22] <Galaxy_Stranger> IE...sadly...
#1641 [17:22] <zen> do you have winrar?
#1642 [17:23] <Galaxy_Stranger> 7zip
#1643 [17:23] <tyteen4a03> at this point I have no idea what Galaxy_Stranger's OS is
#1644 [17:23] <Galaxy_Stranger> Win7
#1645 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> Galaxy_Stranger: you're probably downloading the wrong version, try the link zen gave you
#1646 [17:24] <Galaxy_Stranger> yeah, I just did, renamed it and uploaded it. seeing if that worked
#1647 [17:25] <Galaxy_Stranger> Weird, chrome just saved it as .jar...
#1648 [17:25] <Galaxy_Stranger> yeah, I renamed it and that worked this time...
#1649 [17:25] <Galaxy_Stranger> strange as all get-out. Thanks for the help, sorry to waste your time!
#1650 [17:26] <zen> Our time is never wasted
#1651 [17:27] <zen> But use chrome it is better ;)
#1652 [17:27] <Galaxy_Stranger> ;-p good
#1653 [17:27] <Galaxy_Stranger> yeah, i usually use Firefox
#1654 [17:27] <Galaxy_Stranger> I'm a web developer and IE is a friggin' nachtmare
#1655 [17:28] <lukegb> Galaxy_Stranger: IE9 is better! :P
#1656 [17:28] <lukegb> IE10 better still
#1657 [17:28] <Galaxy_Stranger> hah
#1658 [17:28] <Eddie> ew IE9
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#1660 [17:28] <lukegb> Then again
#1661 [17:28] <lukegb> I may only be saying that after being scarred by IE6 and 7
#1662 [17:29] <Galaxy_Stranger> yes, IE9 is better than 6 and 7. but that's about it
#1663 [17:29] <lukegb> I will venture that it is more than slightly better :P
#1664 [17:29] <musicmanjc> when I try to load mindcraft I get the error: could not create the java virtual machine
#1665 [17:29] <lukegb> musicmanjc: it may mean you don't have enough RAM
#1666 [17:29] <lukegb> there's probably more to the error message
#1667 [17:29] <musicmanjc> I have 2gig
#1668 [17:29] <zen> Does it says "Could not reserve java heap space"?
#1669 [17:30] <musicmanjc> A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit
#1670 [17:30] <lukegb> Oh, that's fun
#1671 [17:31] <zen> Broken java install probably
#1672 [17:31] <lukegb> musicmanjc: can you paste the entire error message into pastebin.com
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#1674 [17:31] <Galaxy_Stranger> anyway, thanks guys - lates!
#1675 [17:31] <Galaxy_Stranger> anyway, thanks guys - lates!
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#1679 [17:36] <musicmanjc> how do I do that
#1680 [17:37] <nyrface1132> I am trying the minecraft demo and it will not finish downloading. How am i supposed to play?
#1681 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> The demo doesn't work yet
#1682 [17:37] <nyrface1132> nice thanks any idea when it will be up and running?
#1683 [17:37] <musicmanjc> --------------------------- Java Virtual Machine Launcher --------------------------- Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit. --------------------------- OK ---------------------------
#1684 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> Not without having an already paid player download it first on your computer
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#1687 [17:39] <nyrface1132> so i have to buy before i can try it, whats the purpose of having a demo then?
#1688 [17:39] <zen> musicmanjc, can you uninstall all versions of java that are on your PC and install java 6
#1689 [17:39] <zen> ?? java/1.6
#1690 [17:39] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1691 [17:39] <zen> Java 6 is there ^
#1692 [17:39] <musicmanjc> thank you
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#1694 [17:39] <zen> nyrface1132, when they fix the demo you won't have to but at the moment the demo doesn't work
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#1696 [17:40] <nyrface1132> thanks
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#1699 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> zen: for now, demo/outdated works
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#1705 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Recycle Cardboard and Plastics.
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#1707 [17:52] <coop> trhgwrtywterwer
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#1711 [18:02] <Nathan2055> !login
#1712 [18:02] <Nathan2055> Yeah, very funny. Somebody disable the MOTD!
#1713 [18:03] * Kealper isn't sure how
#1713 [18:03] <Nathan2055> Let me check.
#1714 [18:04] <Kealper> it's a chanserv command, i'm just not sure it TOPIC is the one, or if i've even got the privs to edit that
#1715 [18:04] <Kealper> sure if*
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#1717 [18:05] <Nathan2055> Keapler: I know how to do it on freenode, but ChanServ here is slightly different.
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#1722 [18:06] <Kealper> .nick AuBot
#1723 [18:06] <Kealper> change your nick dangyou
#1724 [18:06] <Kealper> .nick AuBot
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#1726 [18:06] <Kealper> :|
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#1731 [18:07] <Kealper> uhoh
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#1745 [18:08] <Nathan2055> .help
#1746 [18:08] <Nathan2055> !nick AuBot
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#1752 [18:08] <Kealper> network is probably being DDoSed again
#1753 [18:08] <Nathan2055> Figured it out.
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#1755 [18:12] <Kealper> can't use set
#1756 [18:13] <Kealper> channel founder/sucessor probably have to be one of the ones to do it
#1757 [18:15] <Grey> What's going on?
#1758 [18:15] <Kealper> chanserv entry message lies
#1759 [18:16] <Grey> What is it?
#1760 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> test
#1761 [18:17] <Kealper> uhh... it says the login servers are down
#1762 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> huh. I'm not authorized
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#1764 [18:19] <Kealper> dang, TW must be the only one able to set that
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#1766 [18:20] <Nathan2055> I'll see if I can access the access list, figure out who has the rights,
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#1768 [18:20] <Kealper> if neither me or GV can change it, then that literally only leaves TrueWolves as the one who can edit it
#1769 [18:21] <Nathan2055> Ah ha, made it into the flag list.
#1770 [18:21] * Kealper votes we shouldn't use chanserv's entrymsg as an motd again
#1770 [18:21] <gv> Agreed
#1771 [18:22] <Kealper> i like how ComboFix is just sitting there saying "Preparing Log Report." for the last 15 minutes on this computer i'm devirusing
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#1774 [18:28] <Kealper> and according to what i'm reading... that's a bad thing
#1775 [18:28] <Kealper> crao
#1776 [18:28] <Kealper> crap*
#1777 [18:28] <gv> Yay
#1778 [18:28] <Kealper> and here i thought this was going to be easy money
#1779 [18:28] <gv> Uhoh
#1780 [18:29] <Nathan2055> Sorry, I had something come up IRL.
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#1783 [18:29] <SteamyShiner> Is there a new limit on the end in 1.3? It seems only chunks used in generation allow someone to build in?
#1784 [18:31] <Nathan2055> Yeah, only he can can access +s
#1785 [18:35] <Nathan2055> SteamyShiner: I've noticed that.
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#1787 [18:38] <SteamyShiner> Apparently it works fine in singleplayer, could it be a multiverse issue? A bukkit issue? A server issue? So many possiblities.
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#1789 [18:46] <Nathan2055> gv: Could you voice me? :)
#1790 [18:47] <Kealper> one does not simply.... gain voice
#1791 [18:47] <gv> ^
#1792 [18:49] <Nathan2055> Keapler: What do you mean?
#1793 [18:49] <Kealper> typing "ke" and pressing tab is probably a better way to highlight me :P
#1794 [18:50] * Nathan2055 chuckles
#1794 [18:51] <Kealper> and i'm saying voice in this channel is not just given out willy-nilly, it's sort of a ball-and-chain that is forced upon people who show themselves as being available and willing to help many times
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#1796 [18:51] <Kealper> about the only thing voice is used for in here is just to bump the person's name up higher in the list of users, so people getting help see their names faster
#1797 [18:51] <Kealper> since the channel is almost never set to +m
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#1799 [18:52] <jdunhoon> hi my minecraft wont update
#1800 [18:52] <jdunhoon> hello?
#1801 [18:52] <Kealper> jdunhoon: what is it doing when you try to update?
#1802 [18:52] <jdunhoon> is anyone there?
#1803 [18:53] * Yeti|InHiding is now known as :BranicYeti
#1804 [18:53] <Kealper> any error messages being shown, etc?
#1805 [18:53] <jdunhoon> o i used mc nostalgia to downgrade it so i could play on a server. i deleted mc nostalgia and it asks to update and i say yes but when it is done updating it still says 1.2.5
#1806 [18:53] <Kealper> that's... interesting
#1807 [18:53] <Kealper> run the launcher
#1808 [18:53] <Kealper> don't log in though, just click the Options button
#1809 [18:53] <jdunhoon> i clicked force update but it wouldnt load
#1810 [18:54] <Kealper> force update didn't update it either?
#1811 [18:54] <jdunhoon> nah the green bar didnt move for hours
#1812 [18:55] <jdunhoon> i also tried deleting everything and reinstalling... didnt work. playing on browsr... didnt work
#1813 [18:55] <gv> Avg?
#1814 [18:55] <jdunhoon> wats that
#1815 [18:55] <jdunhoon> i dont know wat Avg is
#1816 [18:56] <Kealper> i'll take that as a no
#1817 [18:56] <jdunhoon> haha. when it says 1.2.5 i go to the servers and click join and it says end of stream
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#1819 [18:57] <Kealper> and you said you tried deleting minecraft.jar out of the .minecraft\bin folder?
#1820 [18:57] <jdunhoon> yea
#1821 [18:57] * BranicYeti is now known as :Yeti|InHiding
#1822 [18:57] <Kealper> interesting...
#1823 [18:57] <Kealper> i'm not sure :o
#1824 [18:58] <jdunhoon> I basically deleted everything minecraft
#1825 [18:58] <jdunhoon> and then downloaded from the site
#1826 [18:58] <jdunhoon> any ideas lol
#1827 [18:59] <Kealper> ok so... before i state my hypothesis here... let me make sure i got this right
#1828 [18:59] <jdunhoon> k
#1829 [19:00] <Kealper> you downgraded to 1.2.5, when you went to upgrade using the Force Update option, it did nothing.. so you delete the stuff from .minecraft and updated again, and even though it said it updated, it is still running 1.2.5?
#1830 [19:00] <jdunhoon> yes correct
#1831 [19:01] <jdunhoon> idk if mcnostalgia is still somehow running or at
#1832 [19:01] <jdunhoon> wat*
#1833 [19:01] <Kealper> it sounds to me like either a program on your computer or something your internet provider is running is caching the old version of minecraft.jar... so when the updater goes to get the latest one, it's actually downloading the old one...
#1834 [19:02] <Kealper> so on that note... give me a second
#1835 [19:02] <jdunhoon> ok lol thanks so much
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#1837 [19:03] <jdunhoon> bye buckeye
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#1839 [19:03] <jdunhoon> bye w
#1840 [19:03] <Kealper> jdunhoon: open your .minecraft folder
#1841 [19:04] <jdunhoon> did i get one when i downloaded it again?
#1842 [19:04] <Kealper> yes
#1843 [19:04] <Kealper> it re-makes the folders and files in there
#1844 [19:04] <jdunhoon> cause its not showing up when i search for it
#1845 [19:04] <Kealper> hmm... are you using Windows 7?
#1846 [19:04] <jdunhoon> yes
#1847 [19:05] <jdunhoon> should i delete the minecraft i just downloaded and try it again?
#1848 [19:05] <Kealper> click the start button, in the little search spot put this: %appdata%\.minecraft
#1849 [19:05] <Kealper> press enter and it will open the folder if it exists
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#1851 [19:05] <jdunhoon> found it lol
#1852 [19:05] <jdunhoon> wat now
#1853 [19:06] <Kealper> ok, is there a folder called bin?
#1854 [19:06] <jdunhoon> ya
#1855 [19:06] <Kealper> (please do not assume anything i'm about to say, either)
#1856 [19:06] <Kealper> open it
#1857 [19:06] <jdunhoon> ok
#1858 [19:06] <jdunhoon> i did
#1859 [19:06] <Kealper> is there files like minecraft.jar and stuff in it?
#1860 [19:06] * TheNytange1 is now known as :TheNytangel
#1861 [19:07] <jdunhoon> jinput, natives, version, and minecraft
#1862 [19:07] <jdunhoon> the minecraft says executable jar file
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#1864 [19:07] <jdunhoon> now wat
#1865 [19:08] <Kealper> jdunhoon: you should have got a message from me that looked different than the other messages, follow that
#1866 [19:08] <jdunhoon> ok hold on
#1867 [19:10] <jdunhoon> k i did
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#1869 [19:11] <Kealper> try running Minecraft again
#1870 [19:11] <jdunhoon> do i need to delete the bin and replace it with this?
#1871 [19:11] <Kealper> oh
#1872 [19:11] <jdunhoon> cause i put it in the bin folder
#1873 [19:11] <Kealper> did it ask you to replace anything when you tried?
#1874 [19:12] <jdunhoon> nah
#1875 [19:12] <Kealper> that... doesn't sound right....
#1876 [19:13] <jdunhoon> i opened the bin folder and put it in with all the other things in that folder
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#1878 [19:13] <Kealper> and there is still only one file called "Minecraft" in the bin folder?
#1879 [19:14] <Kealper> or is there one also called like "Minecraft (1)"?
#1880 [19:14] <jdunhoon> 2 now
#1881 [19:14] <Kealper> what is the other one named?
#1882 [19:14] <jdunhoon> a compressed minecraft folder (yours) and a minecraft.jar folder
#1883 [19:15] <Kealper> ever heard of something called TeamViewer? lol
#1884 [19:15] <jdunhoon> should i delete the minecraft.jar one?
#1885 [19:15] <jdunhoon> no
#1886 [19:15] <Kealper> ?? teamviewer
#1887 [19:15] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1888 [19:15] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1889 [19:15] <Kealper> what VoxelHead said
#1890 [19:15] <jdunhoon> should i delete the original .jar file
#1891 [19:16] <Kealper> that probably wouldn't do any good, because it seems your computer saved the file i gave you as something other than Minecraft.jar
#1892 [19:16] <jdunhoon> ok
#1893 [19:17] <Kealper> so... on that note, did you want to let me try and figure it out, using TeamViewer? it would let me see your screen, move your mouse, etc... with your permission, of course
#1894 [19:17] <jdunhoon> no thanks i will figure it out eventually
#1895 [19:17] <Kealper> well then, we continue this way of debugging it seems
#1896 [19:18] <Kealper> ok, delete both of those Minecraft files in the bin folder
#1897 [19:18] <jdunhoon> ok i did
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#1899 [19:18] <Kealper> now then... re-download that file from the link i gave you
#1900 [19:18] <Kealper> and make sure you click to save it as Minecraft.jar if it asks
#1901 [19:19] <Tom> if you are trying to play mincraft from the browser and you try to update it and it says failed to launch and shows a file. How do you fix that?
#1902 [19:19] <Kealper> Tom: what file?
#1903 [19:19] <jdunhoon> ok i saved it as minecraft.jar
#1904 [19:20] <Kealper> jdunhoon: ok, now if you have not done this already, move that newly-saved minecraft.jar in to that bin folder
#1905 [19:20] <jdunhoon> i will put it in the bin folder
#1906 [19:20] <Tom> It just has a really long file name
#1907 [19:20] <Kealper> Tom: have you tried playing the downloaded version instead?
#1908 [19:20] <jdunhoon> k i did
#1909 [19:20] <jdunhoon> i did
#1910 [19:20] <Kealper> jdunhoon: try launching Minecraft now
#1911 [19:20] <Kealper> jdunhoon: try launching Minecraft now
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#1914 [19:20] <Tom> yes it wont ever let me update
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#1916 [19:20] <jdunhoon> k any minecraft?
#1917 [19:21] <Razza15> hello
#1918 [19:21] <jdunhoon> would i like it to update?
#1919 [19:21] <Kealper> jdunhoon: yes, and try connecting to a 1.3.1 server
#1920 [19:21] <Kealper> jdunhoon: it's asking to update?
#1921 [19:21] <jdunhoon> ya
#1922 [19:21] <Kealper> Razza15: 'ello
#1923 [19:21] <Kealper> jdunhoon: i guess allow it to...
#1924 [19:21] <Razza15> I Have port forwarded my server too a port but it ownt work
#1925 [19:21] <jdunhoon> ok here it goes...
#1926 [19:21] <Kealper> Tom: has it worked before?
#1927 [19:22] <Tom> yeah ,but its the older version its not current
#1928 [19:22] <jdunhoon> OMG OMG OMG THANKS SOOOOOO MUCH IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1929 [19:22] <Razza15> I Portforwarded the port 25565 and i can connect when i try using the ip and my port but others cannot connect any solutions?
#1930 [19:22] <jdunhoon> thanks and bye
#1931 [19:22] <Kealper> Razza15: what IP are you giving other people?
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#1933 [19:22] <Razza15> 87.198.125.252:25565
#1934 [19:22] <Kealper> Tom: hmm... older versions worked on that computer?
#1935 [19:22] <Kealper> !check 87.198.125.252
#1936 [19:23] <Kealper> Razza15: is the Minecraft server running right now?
#1937 [19:23] <Razza15> i use that ip and it doesnt work
#1938 [19:23] <Razza15> its actually an tekkit server but yes
#1939 [19:23] <Tom> Kealper on the downloaded version it looks like its up to date. But it wont let me play online it says login failed.
#1940 [19:23] <Kealper> Razza15: what IP did you put in the port forwarding spot?
#1941 [19:23] <Razza15> the exact same ip address
#1942 [19:24] <Kealper> Tom: do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#1943 [19:24] <Tom> yeah i do
#1944 [19:24] <zen> er no, you need to put your internal IP address in the IP slot for portforwarding
#1945 [19:24] <Kealper> Razza15: you're supposed to use your computer's internal IP address, not your external IP address when adding port forwarding
#1946 [19:24] <zen> That is the IPv4 address that your PC has
#1947 [19:24] <Razza15> where can i find my internal ip?
#1948 [19:24] <Kealper> Tom: can you try disabling them for a few minutes, just to see if they're the things causing the problems?
#1949 [19:25] <zen> Razza15, windows key + r, type in CMD and press enter, type in ipconfig and press enter
#1950 [19:25] <zen> find anything that says IPv4 address and copy that address here
#1951 [19:25] <zen> we'll tell you which is the right one
#1952 [19:25] <Razza15> kk
#1953 [19:25] <Razza15> i got it opened
#1954 [19:25] <Razza15> what am i looking for ? ipv4 address?
#1955 [19:26] <zen> yes
#1956 [19:26] <Razza15> its the same ip i use for the server that isnt working
#1957 [19:26] <Razza15> 87.198.125.252
#1958 [19:26] <Kealper> O.o
#1959 [19:26] <Razza15> hmm
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#1961 [19:27] <zen> Razza15, find an address that starts 192.168
#1962 [19:27] <Razza15> is there any new updates for the simple port forwarding program would it be that?
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#1964 [19:27] <Razza15> dont have an ip with that zen
#1965 [19:27] <zen> There should be, with CMD open you did ipconfig and pressed enter right?
#1966 [19:28] <Razza15> Would it be if i didnt download the latest update for the port forward program? and Yes!
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#1968 [19:28] <biggamer11> hello
#1969 [19:28] <Kealper> zen: i'm not so sure Razza15 is even behind a router
#1970 [19:28] <Razza15> ?
#1971 [19:28] <zen> Kealper, that might explain it ._.
#1972 [19:29] <Kealper> Razza15: what exactly are you typing in to your browser to get to your port forwarding page?
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#1974 [19:29] <Razza15> portforward.com
#1975 [19:29] <Kealper> i don't think you need to do port forwarding...
#1976 [19:29] <Razza15> i had already!
#1977 [19:29] <Kealper> ok so.. do you have any firewall or antivirus software installed?
#1978 [19:29] <zen> Razza15, are you on wireless or a wired connection?
#1979 [19:29] <Razza15> i had already a server running on the port 25565 and it worked fine! but now i cannot run a server on that port or any others
#1980 [19:30] <Razza15> wired zen
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#1982 [19:30] <Razza15> and McAfee Kealper
#1983 [19:30] <zen> Is there any other PC's in the house?
#1984 [19:30] <Razza15> zen yes
#1985 [19:30] <Razza15> 1 other
#1986 [19:30] <Razza15> and 1 laptop
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#1988 [19:30] <zen> are they connected to the internet?
#1989 [19:30] <Razza15> nope
#1990 [19:30] <zen> Okay, you must be going just through a modem
#1991 [19:31] <Kealper> Razza15: does McAfee have an option for internet security in it?
#1992 [19:31] <Razza15> yes
#1993 [19:31] <Razza15> Wait it couldnt be mcafee becoz i had a server running before with NO problems
#1994 [19:31] <Razza15> and my family was on the other computers/laptops
#1995 [19:31] <Kealper> well... something is blocking it...
#1996 [19:31] <zen> Updates to programs can change things
#1997 [19:31] <Razza15> hmm
#1998 [19:32] <Razza15> well i port forward with an program
#1999 [19:32] <Razza15> not an adress on the browser
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#2001 [19:32] <Razza15> Simple Port Forwarding
#2002 [19:32] <zen> Yes that shouldn't do anything
#2003 [19:32] <Razza15> is the programs name and thers a new update would i need 2 download it?
#2004 [19:32] <Kealper> i don't even think that is needed... you only have to forward ports if you have a router, and i'm fairly certain you do not have a router
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#2006 [19:33] <Kealper> my guess is either Windows Firewall is blocking people from getting on your server, or there is some option in McAfee that is blocking it
#2007 [19:33] <Burgerman4> http://pastebin.com/hrY76pcq
#2008 [19:33] <Razza15> oh wait people do be on the internet every day just not atm
#2009 [19:33] <Kealper> so i'd start with adding java.exe to the exceptions list
#2010 [19:33] <Kealper> Burgerman4: one moment
#2011 [19:33] <Razza15> how?
#2012 [19:33] <Burgerman4> sorry
#2013 [19:34] <Razza15> ive got a router and its wired into it not wireless
#2014 [19:34] <zen> Razza15, how many ports are there on the back of the router box?
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#2016 [19:35] <Kealper> Burgerman4: has Minecraft ran for you before?
#2017 [19:35] <Burgerman4> once
#2018 [19:35] <Kealper> Burgerman4: on that same computer?
#2019 [19:35] <Burgerman4> yes
#2020 [19:35] <Razza15> right
#2021 [19:35] <Razza15> theres 3 going into it no empty ports
#2022 [19:36] <Razza15> into the back of the router
#2023 [19:36] <Razza15> not INCLUDING the power on my phone line
#2024 [19:36] <Kealper> zen: have fun with that one, i've got absolutely no idea how Razza15's network is even working
#2025 [19:36] <Razza15> oops power or phone line
#2026 [19:36] <zen> Kealper, phone line.
#2027 [19:37] <zen> Razza15, can you see a brand and model on the box?
#2028 [19:37] <Razza15> yess
#2029 [19:37] <jjs999jjs> kealper he has a router next to his pc with 3 ports which are all taken by wired connections
#2030 [19:37] <zen> what is it?
#2031 [19:37] <Kealper> zen: i've been noticing that more and more dsl modems are modem/router combos
#2032 [19:37] <Razza15> its a Telsey CPVA 642
#2033 [19:37] <Kealper> jjs999jjs: he isn't behind a normal NAT though
#2034 [19:37] <jjs999jjs> heis in Ireland is maybe why :)
#2035 [19:38] <Kealper> jjs999jjs: lol
#2036 [19:38] <jjs999jjs> I am on skype with talking to him is why i butted in :)
#2037 [19:38] <Razza15> How is this problem accuring when i could run a server on the port before?"?
#2038 [19:38] <Wug> Kealper: has anyone updated the demo factoid to include the modified launcher
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#2040 [19:38] <Kealper> Burgerman4: anyways... back to you... it looks like your graphics drivers probably need updating
#2041 [19:38] <Kealper> Wug: not that i'm aware
#2042 [19:39] <Wug> ?? demo
#2043 [19:39] <VoxelHead> demo: In order to play Minecraft's demo, download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/download and log in with your account, then select "Play Demo".
#2044 [19:39] <VoxelHead> demo: Note: As of today (05.08.2012) the demo is not working for many different people and OSes.
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#2046 [19:39] <Razza15> so do u have any fix?
#2047 [19:39] <Charger900> can someone help me
#2048 [19:39] <Charger900> my account got hacked
#2049 [19:39] <Burgerman4> oh ile do that thanks
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#2051 [19:39] <zen> Razza15, i'm looking at exactly what your router is now
#2052 [19:39] <Wug> Charger900: reset your password
#2053 [19:39] <Wug> ??> Charger900 resetpass
#2054 [19:39] <Razza15> zen
#2055 [19:39] <Wug> ??> Charger900 resetpass
#2056 [19:39] <zen> waiting for the pdf to download..
#2057 [19:39] * Wug whacks VoxelHead
#2057 [19:40] <Charger900> i cant because i dont rember the email i put my account on
#2058 [19:40] <Razza15> zen : when i used my old server i could use direct connect but now i cannot when i try localhost or localhost:8080 or 25565
#2059 [19:40] <Wug> well, reset it and try all of them
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#2061 [19:40] <Razza15> zen : it just says Failed to connect to the server connection refused : connect
#2062 [19:41] <Kealper> connection refused is something to take notice in that message
#2063 [19:41] <Wug> Razza15: you're not setting the ip address in servr-ip areyou
#2064 [19:41] <sydonia12> i have a problem with my minecraft... and, uh, kinda new to all this, so yeah. can someone help?
#2065 [19:41] <Kealper> sydonia12: what seems to be the issue?
#2066 [19:41] <sydonia12> every time i log into minecraft and go to run the game it closes out
#2067 [19:42] <Razza15> yes i am indeed wug
#2068 [19:42] <sydonia12> that's in the downloadable version
#2069 [19:42] <Kealper> sydonia12: is there any files starting with hs_err_pid on your desktop?
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#2072 [19:43] <Kealper> Razza15: open server.properties and make server-ip blank, so the entire line is just "server-ip="
#2073 [19:43] <zen> Kealper, looks to be ADSL
#2074 [19:43] <sydonia12> no
#2075 [19:43] <Charger> my account got hacked and i cant reset the password because i cnat rember the email i put the account on
#2076 [19:43] <Kealper> Charger: we can't help you, you'll have to find out what email it was sent to...
#2077 [19:43] <Charger> ok
#2078 [19:43] <Razza15> Kealper : done
#2079 [19:43] <Kealper> sydonia12: have you tried it in the browser?
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#2081 [19:43] <Kealper> Razza15: restart your server and see if it connects now
#2082 [19:44] <zkxs> Charger: You could try putting all the emails you remember into this: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
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#2084 [19:44] <zkxs> ...or you could quit before I tell you that
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#2086 [19:44] <Wug> ??~ demo|In order to play Minecraft's demo, you will need to download this modified launcher, login to your nonpremium account, and select "Play Demo" (underneath "Try Again"). Demo mode is currently nonfunctional in the vanilla launcher.;;Download link: http://morrolan.ch/mchelp/mc_troubleshooting_launcher.jar (bugs should be reported to Wug, the author of the modifications)
#2087 [19:44] <Razza15> Kealper i can connect
#2088 [19:44] <sydonia12> yeah. you know how after it finished loading, it shows java load with the icon, then the mojang banner? well it doesn't show all that. the game screen just turns white
#2089 [19:44] <Razza15> but my friends cannot
#2090 [19:45] <Wug> Razza15: your internal ip probably changed
#2091 [19:45] <Kealper> !check 87-198-125-252.ptr.magnet.ie
#2092 [19:45] <Wug> go into your router settings and reforward the port to the correct ip address
#2093 [19:45] <JimDude> In what file is the main function stored in the Minecraft source code?
#2094 [19:45] <Razza15> it says the link is broken Kealper
#2095 [19:45] <Kealper> what link?
#2096 [19:46] <Razza15> !check 87-198-125-252.ptr.magnet.ie
#2097 [19:46] <JimDude> There's one in minecraft.jar, but when I run it with a breakpoint it never gets there
#2098 [19:46] <Kealper> that wasn't a link
#2099 [19:46] <Razza15> hmm
#2100 [19:46] <Kealper> it was a command for that AuBot program in here
#2101 [19:46] <Razza15> it says it isnt looking good 4 that ip
#2102 [19:46] <Kealper> that's your IP...
#2103 [19:46] <Kealper> lol
#2104 [19:46] <Wug> sydonia12: does it work in browser
#2105 [19:47] <sydonia12> wug: no
#2106 [19:47] <Wug> sydonia12: has it ever worked before
#2107 [19:47] <Kealper> sydonia12: whoops, forgot about you there for a few minutes :o
#2108 [19:47] <jjs999jjs> kealper try 8080 he changed the port
#2109 [19:47] <jjs999jjs> !check 87-198-125-252.ptr.magnet.ie
#2110 [19:47] <JimDude> Anyone know?
#2111 [19:47] <Kealper> !check 87.198.125.252:8080
#2112 [19:47] <jjs999jjs> connection lost end of stream
#2113 [19:48] <Razza15> !check 87.198.125.252:8080
#2114 [19:48] <zen> ._. why 8080?
#2115 [19:48] <jjs999jjs> god knows lol
#2116 [19:48] <sydonia12> its fine, lol. it hasnt worked on this computer. ever. i bought it on the 4th. but i tried it on another computer and it worked then. to be safe i deleted it (because multiple downloads on different routers is bad and it was away from home), but it still doesnt work on this laptop
#2117 [19:48] <jjs999jjs> cos its tekkit probs
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#2119 [19:48] <zen> jjs999jj/ Razza15 set it to default so you don't have to tell your uses to use a set port
#2120 [19:48] <zen> It will be easier
#2121 [19:49] <sydonia12> i tried downloading the .jar file and saved the .bat file. that whole jazz, and it still didn't work
#2122 [19:49] <Kealper> sydonia12: ok then, try running it in the browser, but when it goes blank, leave it right there and tell me
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#2124 [19:50] <sydonia12> now
#2125 [19:50] <Kealper> sydonia12: look down by your computer's clock, in the bottom right of your screen.. is there a little coffee cup icon down there?
#2126 [19:50] <Razza15> Kealper and any one else thank you so much
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#2129 [19:51] * Kealper isn't even sure what happened
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#2130 [19:51] <sydonia12> nope
#2131 [19:51] <Kealper> sydonia12: is there a little arrow that can be clicked down there to show more icons?
#2132 [19:51] <JimDude> Is there even a real main for Minecraft, or is it weird somehow?
#2133 [19:51] <Kealper> JimDude: hmm?
#2134 [19:51] <sydonia12> yeah, it's not there
#2135 [19:51] <sydonia12> i tried deleting java and cleaning the registry multiple times.... it didnt help
#2136 [19:52] <JimDude> how does it run?
#2137 [19:52] <Kealper> JimDude: Minecraft? it runs through Java (javaw.exe)
#2138 [19:52] <sydonia12> i even tried the force update and deleted the bin folder a few times
#2139 [19:52] <JimDude> I was asking earlier where the main function in the minecraft source code is
#2140 [19:52] <Kealper> oh
#2141 [19:52] <JimDude> if it has no main, it shouldn't run
#2142 [19:53] <JimDude> I found ONE main, but I put a breakpoint there and...
#2143 [19:53] <Kealper> JimDude: that's a question better-asked in #risucraft
#2144 [19:53] <JimDude> wait
#2145 [19:53] <JimDude> lol I think I forgot to run it in debug mode
#2146 [19:53] <sydonia12> i have a firewall down too. i learned that much from WoW
#2147 [19:54] <Kealper> sydonia12: you said you tried running it through a .bat file?
#2148 [19:54] <sydonia12> no, i just saved the bat file. every time i open those things i get like 5 files saying 'player banned'
#2149 [19:54] <JimDude> aight, next time I'll ask there, but I managed to figure it out. I'm dumb. Thanks for helping (kind of)!
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#2151 [19:55] <sydonia12> and i dont understand all that mumbo text
#2152 [19:55] <Kealper> sydonia12: that's... probably not good, but probably also not something i'd want you to run either
#2153 [19:55] <jjs999jjs> KEALPER RAZZA GOT SORTED CHEERS BUDDY GREAT WORK
#2154 [19:55] <jjs999jjs> sorry for caps
#2155 [19:55] <sydonia12> so wait... what do i do?
#2156 [19:56] <Kealper> jjs999jjs: i don't even know what i did... you just said he changed it to port 8080 and it started working....
#2157 [19:56] <Kealper> sydonia12: one second, getting some download links
#2158 [19:56] <sydonia12> alright
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#2160 [19:56] <Kealper> going to try getting some debug info on why it's crashing
#2161 [19:56] <CrispedPenny> hi
#2162 [19:56] <Kealper> CrispedPenny: hi
#2163 [19:56] <sydonia12> i figured i could run a diagnostic check, but I don't know how
#2164 [19:57] <CrispedPenny> Super newb, never played.. I wanted to try it before buying...
#2165 [19:57] <sydonia12> so i knew what exactly was crashing
#2166 [19:57] <CrispedPenny> trying to log in minecraft and im stuck at a done loading screen
#2167 [19:57] <jjs999jjs> he changed it back to default
#2168 [19:57] <gv> The demo doesn't work
#2169 [19:57] <jjs999jjs> as you suggested
#2170 [19:57] <Kealper> CrispedPenny: sort of... http://www.minecraft.net/demo will probably work
#2171 [19:57] <Kealper> CrispedPenny: the demo was just added as a feature, it's hit-or-miss whether it works for your computer or not
#2172 [19:57] <Kealper> jjs999jjs: ahh
#2173 [19:58] <CrispedPenny> o dang
#2174 [19:58] <CrispedPenny> i made the account and everything .. anything i should try?
#2175 [19:58] <sydonia12> by the way! to clarify this immediately, i bought my minecraft. i didnt download it from anywhere else, lol
#2176 [19:58] <jjs999jjs> just wanted to say tnx coshe raN AWAY ALL EXCITED AND DIDNT BOTHER
#2177 [19:58] <jjs999jjs> just wanted to say tnx coshe raN AWAY ALL EXCITED AND DIDNT BOTHER
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#2179 [19:59] <Kealper> sydonia12: download this and save it to your desktop https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2180 [19:59] <sydonia12> i have that in the .minecraft file already
#2181 [19:59] <Kealper> sydonia12: that is a different one
#2182 [19:59] <Kealper> same name, different function
#2183 [19:59] <sydonia12> should i delete the old one
#2184 [20:00] <sydonia12> ?
#2185 [20:00] <Kealper> no
#2186 [20:00] <Kealper> just download that and put it on your desktop
#2187 [20:00] <Kealper> then tell me when you've done that
#2188 [20:00] <sydonia12> dragged and dropped, now what
#2189 [20:01] <Kealper> open Notepad and put this on the first line: java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2190 [20:01] <Kealper> put this on the second line: pause
#2191 [20:01] <Kealper> go to File > Save As, and save it as start.bat
#2192 [20:02] <sydonia12> all file or a text document
#2193 [20:02] <Kealper> all files
#2194 [20:02] <Kealper> that way it actually makes it as a .bat file
#2195 [20:02] <Kealper> also
#2196 [20:02] <Kealper> make sure to save that on your desktop, i should have said
#2197 [20:02] <sydonia12> done, and yeah. i did that with the previous .bat file
#2198 [20:02] <sydonia12> same icon, different name
#2199 [20:03] <sydonia12> but it kinda replaced it
#2200 [20:03] <Kealper> ok, now run that start.bat file
#2201 [20:03] <sydonia12> press any key to continue?
#2202 [20:03] <Kealper> no, did the file make any mention about saying "java" was not a command?
#2203 [20:04] <Kealper> derp
#2204 [20:04] <Kealper> replace file with window
#2205 [20:05] <sydonia12> uhm...exception in thread.... caused by a list of things... and then 'could not find the main class: net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit'
#2206 [20:06] <Kealper> oh... i see what happened
#2207 [20:06] <Kealper> close that black window
#2208 [20:06] <sydonia12> done
#2209 [20:06] <Kealper> right click start.bat and click edit
#2210 [20:06] <sydonia12> ok, and now?
#2211 [20:07] <Kealper> change the M in that .Minecraft to lowercase, so it says .minecraft
#2212 [20:07] <sydonia12> save?
#2213 [20:07] <Kealper> save, run again
#2214 [20:07] <Kealper> if all goes well, it should open the login screen
#2215 [20:07] <sydonia12> it opened minecraft
#2216 [20:07] <Kealper> ok, log in as usual and try playing
#2217 [20:08] <sydonia12> should i force update like usual?
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#2220 [20:08] <Kealper> no, just enter your login info and click Login so it tries to start the game
#2221 [20:08] <sydonia12> closed again
#2222 [20:09] <Kealper> ok, is there anything that was put in to that black window?
#2223 [20:09] <sydonia12> it's almost immediately after i click login
#2224 [20:09] <sydonia12> nope
#2225 [20:09] <Kealper> O.o
#2226 [20:09] <sydonia12> wait, it says stuff
#2227 [20:09] <sydonia12> if thats what you mean
#2228 [20:09] <sydonia12> i didnt type anything in there
#2229 [20:09] <Kealper> yes, does it have a lot of lines of what looks to be spam?
#2230 [20:10] <sydonia12> nope. just says stuff about the game. 27 achievements. 195 recipes. my username and what version some LWJGL thing is
#2231 [20:10] <Kealper> interesting....
#2232 [20:10] <sydonia12> ?
#2233 [20:10] <Kealper> it does have the "press any key to continue..." text, right?
#2234 [20:10] <sydonia12> yep
#2235 [20:11] <sydonia12> should i continue...?
#2236 [20:11] <Kealper> yeah.. it'll just close that window
#2237 [20:11] <Kealper> seems that was all for nothing anyways, it isn't reporting any errors before it crashes...
#2238 [20:11] <sydonia12> yep. so wait, now what?
#2239 [20:11] <Kealper> the usual suspects i guess... are your graphics drivers up to date and stuf?
#2240 [20:11] <Kealper> stuff*
#2241 [20:11] <sydonia12> i don't think it'sd my computer though. i can play WoW on this thing
#2242 [20:12] <sydonia12> it's a couple years old but like i said, it can run WoW
#2243 [20:12] <Kealper> the computer may be able to play it, but WoW uses something called DirectX, which is standard in Windows drivers.. however, Minecraft uses OpenGL, which is not as standard in the Windows Update version of drivers
#2244 [20:13] <sydonia12> so how do i check that my graphics cards are good? if i can even do that while running the computer
#2245 [20:13] <Kealper> so many crashes can be fixed by updating the drivers to the ones either provided by the computer manufacturer, or by the graphics manufactuer of the chipset in the computer
#2246 [20:13] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#2247 [20:13] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2248 [20:14] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2249 [20:14] <Kealper> follow what VoxelHead said, that'll give me an idea on what graphics card your computer has in it
#2250 [20:14] <Kealper> from there, i can just give you a link to the thing to download and run
#2251 [20:16] <sydonia12> http://pastebin.com/WWMiPzcg
#2252 [20:18] <Kealper> the good news: i've got a computer here with almost those exact specs and it plays Minecraft without a hitch
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#2254 [20:18] <Kealper> the bad news: that does look like it's using those bare-minimum Windows Update drivers instead of proper drivers from AMD
#2255 [20:18] <Kealper> the ugly news: hold on a few seconds while i get you a download link to the latest drivers for your graphics card
#2256 [20:19] <sydonia12> so when i download this it might have a better chance of working?
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#2258 [20:19] <sydonia12> see, the worst part about this damned laptop was... my mom got it from mccann, and it was my first laptop. i' ve had it for about 3 years
#2259 [20:20] <sydonia12> and i dont know how to update anything so since we got it it's been running on the same things
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#2261 [20:21] <Razza14> guys im back again kealper
#2262 [20:21] <zen> Razza14, what's up?
#2263 [20:21] <Razza14> i went too change my groups.yml file in GroupManager and now the same problem occures of the last time iw as here
#2264 [20:21] <Razza14> others cannot connect
#2265 [20:21] <Razza14> but i can
#2266 [20:21] <Razza14> :(
#2267 [20:22] <zen> Razza14, we can't help with the functions of your server as it is not the vanilla server, you should go ask on the tekkit forums
#2268 [20:22] <Razza14> !check 87.198.125.252:25565
#2269 [20:23] <Razza14> the aubot says its running perfect
#2270 [20:23] <Kealper> sydonia12: ok then... i think i've found it... huge link incomming http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=3760874&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687779&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#11360
#2271 [20:23] <Razza14> ah it works!
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#2274 [20:23] <sydonia12> what do i click on now?
#2275 [20:23] <Kealper> sydonia12: click the Download buton for the one that says ATI Video Driver and Control Panel, with the version of 8.635
#2276 [20:24] <ah16> how come when i went to buy minecraft the screen just went white
#2277 [20:24] <Kealper> ah16: the Minecraft game screen or the purchase screen?
#2278 [20:24] <ah16> purchase screen
#2279 [20:24] <sydonia12> the download needs to finish loading
#2280 [20:24] <Kealper> ah16: what purchase type did you choose?
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#2282 [20:25] <Kealper> sydonia12: understandable, figuring on how big video drivers are
#2283 [20:25] <sydonia12> yeah, it's about half way
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#2285 [20:28] <sydonia12> should i use the express component or custom?
#2286 [20:28] <Kealper> express should be fine
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#2289 [20:32] <sydonia12> it seems to be going well so far
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#2291 [20:33] <sydonia12> restart now? i can restart and come back
#2292 [20:34] <Kealper> if it asks you to restart, yes
#2293 [20:34] <Kealper> hopefully this fixes the problem
#2294 [20:34] <widget> why does it keep sayin connection timed out when i try to join a multiplayer server
#2295 [20:34] <Kealper> widget: is it just one specific server or have you tried multiple servers?
#2296 [20:34] <sydonia12> alright, I'll restart and try minecraft. if it doesn't work i'll be back, and if it does i will to say thanks, lol
#2297 [20:34] <zen> widget, it is possible that the server is running an older version (1.2.5) than your version
#2298 [20:35] <widget> i have 1.3.1 and it is a 1.3.1 server
#2299 [20:35] <widget> and it is sometimes other servers aswell but i have only tried to join this one server today
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#2301 [20:36] <widget> i have tried "port forwarding" and checking my security setting....maybe im missing something?
#2302 [20:37] <zen> Is this your own server?
#2303 [20:37] <widget> no
#2304 [20:37] <zen> then portfowarding will do nothing to help
#2305 [20:38] <widget> ya but i was out of options anyway so wat could it have hurt
#2306 [20:38] <widget> hello?
#2307 [20:39] <zen> I'm not entirely sure why you connection would fail, you are sure the server is running?
#2308 [20:40] <widget> i was playing it earlier to day, went AFK for 5 seconds and came back and got disconnected and couldnt get back on... also according to the servers website Yes it is running
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#2310 [20:41] <widget> it's mc.shadowraze.net
#2311 [20:41] <moonluver> umm I need help whenever I open minecraft my server crashes
#2312 [20:41] <zen> !check mc.shadowraze.net
#2313 [20:41] <zen> !check mc.shadowrazer.net
#2314 [20:41] <zen> widget, doesn't look like it's online
#2315 [20:41] <widget> why not zen
#2316 [20:42] <zen> moonluver, how much ram does your PC have?
#2317 [20:42] <zen> widget, because aubot can't connect
#2318 [20:42] <moonluver> I'm not sure
#2319 [20:42] <zen> okay follow VoxelHead's instructions, it will give me an idea of your PC spec
#2320 [20:42] <zen> ??> moonluver win/dxdiag
#2321 [20:42] <widget> ok so nothing i can do?
#2322 [20:42] <moonluver> if it's any help, this is what comes up when I open minecraft res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#minecraft.net,http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#2323 [20:42] <VoxelHead> moonluver: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2324 [20:42] <VoxelHead> moonluver: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2325 [20:43] <zen> moonluver, is this a classic server?
#2326 [20:43] <moonluver> yes
#2327 [20:44] <zen> We don't support classic unfortunately, it's just too old to bother with :/
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#2329 [20:44] <widget> so zen what your saying about my situation is there is nothing i can do to get onto that server?
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#2333 [20:45] <Kealper> widget: correct, because it doesn't appear that server is even online
#2334 [20:45] <zen> widget, not until it comes online
#2335 [20:45] <moonluver> ok
#2336 [20:45] <sydonia12> kealper?
#2337 [20:45] <Kealper> sydonia12: what's the word, bird?
#2338 [20:45] <sydonia12> you're amazing <3
#2339 [20:45] <Kealper> that fixed it? lol
#2340 [20:45] <sydonia12> yessir
#2341 [20:45] <Kealper> glad to hear that was all the problem was :o
#2342 [20:46] <widget> ok well thank you very much zen and Kealper i appreciate it....i've been searching the depths of internet hell to find out there is nothing i can do lol
#2343 [20:46] <sydonia12> same, lol. and im glad you were able to help :D i've been ranting about it to my friends non stop
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#2345 [20:46] <sydonia12> and its fixed, so now im all good. but as i promised, a big THANK YOU
#2346 [20:47] <Kealper> np, it's what i'm here for :o
#2347 [20:47] * zen might download all the drivers for the pc parts he hasn't bought yet, because it will make me feel a tiny bit closer to getting them
#2347 [20:47] <sydonia12> :D have a good one
#2348 [20:47] <widget> thanks guys... i need help im coming back here if i need help again...found out what ive been searching for for 3 hours in 3 minutes
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#2351 [20:48] <tyty> i bought the game where is it???
#2352 [20:48] <zen> tyty, minecraft.net/download
#2353 [20:48] <tyty> it says im not premium?
#2354 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> tyty: have you received a confirmation email from Mojang yet?
#2355 [20:49] <zen> hmm, check your with your bank to make sure that the payment has gone though
#2356 [20:49] <tyty> no its already been an hour
#2357 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> v
#2358 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> tyty: have you received a confirmation email from Mojang yet?
#2359 [20:49] <tyteen4a03> or is the "no" the answer?
#2360 [20:49] <tyty> no is the answer
#2361 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> tyty payment
#2362 [20:50] <VoxelHead> tyty: (payment) Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#2363 [20:50] <VoxelHead> tyty: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/B1N48h
#2364 [20:50] <zen> tyteen4a03, you don't just press the up arrow to get your previous messages? o.o
#2365 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> zen: sometimes I do, sometimes I don't
#2366 [20:50] <zen> odd :p
#2367 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> zen: :P
#2368 [20:51] <tyty> so how long should it take?
#2369 [20:51] <zen> between 5 minutes and 48 hours
#2370 [20:51] <tips48> ._.
#2371 [20:52] <zen> I suspect that it being sunday means the banks don't process the payments till tomorrow morning
#2372 [20:52] <tyty> cuz it already shows that i payed i went through the whole thing but when i try to log in it dont let me
#2373 [20:52] <tyteen4a03> tyty: Which service is showing that the payment went through?
#2374 [20:53] <zen> tyty, there is a problem on the website that will give you a receipt number even if the transaction fails
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#2376 [20:53] <tyty> ???
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#2378 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> tyty: Which service is showing that the payment went through?
#2379 [20:53] <tyteen4a03> zen: I want to know the status of the payment
#2380 [20:54] <tyty> nothing has showed it yet
#2381 [20:54] <tyty> but when i went to purchase it said purchase complete
#2382 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> tyty: What payment method did you use?
#2383 [20:55] <tyty> mastercard
#2384 [20:55] <tyty> ?
#2385 [20:55] <tyteen4a03> tyty: The MasterCard option on minecraft.net/payment?
#2386 [20:56] <tyty> yea
#2387 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> tyty: Do you know if the bank has charged you yet?
#2388 [20:56] <tyty> no
#2389 [20:56] <tyty> i dont know
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#2392 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> tyty: Your best bet would be to wait until monday evening to see if you're premium
#2393 [20:57] <tyty> well ok thx
#2394 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> also, use PayPal whenever you can
#2395 [20:57] <tyty> bye
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#2405 [21:05] <zappy2012> I'm trying to connect to Minecraft and when I log in with user name and password, it says I am not a premium user and to purchase. However, I already enter the code from the purchase and it does not recognize it. the help tells me I am active and everythig is fine to play.
#2406 [21:06] <tyteen4a03> zappy2012: Code? Do you mean gift code?
#2407 [21:06] <zappy2012> yes
#2408 [21:06] <tyteen4a03> zappy2012: username please?
#2409 [21:06] <zappy2012> zappy2012
#2410 [21:06] <tyteen4a03> !paid zappy2012
#2411 [21:07] <tyteen4a03> zappy2012: It looks like either the gift code didn't went through successfully, or there are problems with the code itself
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#2413 [21:07] <tyteen4a03> zappy2012: are you sure you entered it correctly?
#2414 [21:07] <zappy2012> yes
#2415 [21:08] <tyteen4a03> zappy2012: you might want to email mojang about this issue then. They can be contacted at help.mojang.com
#2416 [21:08] <zappy2012> I will thank you.
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#2418 [21:11] <zen> zappy2012, also ask who gave you the code to look at minecraft.net/profile to check that it hasn't been used
#2419 [21:12] <tyteen4a03> zen: why am I thinking that he bought a gift code and used it on his own account
#2420 [21:12] <zen> no clue :p
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#2422 [21:13] <zappy2012> When I entered the account, it gave me the download game cue, but was not able to download the game at that time. When I tried again, it would not allow me.
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#2424 [21:16] <blink> !login
#2425 [21:16] <blink> k
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#2431 [21:37] <applecpugeek> say
#2432 [21:37] <applecpugeek> say hi
#2433 [21:37] <applecpugeek> hi
#2434 [21:38] <applecpugeek> why are auth servers down?
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#2437 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> !login
#2438 [21:39] <applecpugeek> HELLO?
#2439 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: Auth servers are not down
#2440 [21:39] <applecpugeek> um
#2441 [21:39] <applecpugeek> it says it when you login here
#2442 [21:39] <applecpugeek> auth servers are down
#2443 [21:40] <applecpugeek> !login
#2444 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: Does it happen just now?
#2445 [21:40] <applecpugeek> idk
#2446 [21:40] <applecpugeek> one sec
#2447 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: try turning off any security software you have
#2448 [21:40] <applecpugeek> wait
#2449 [21:40] <applecpugeek> it is up
#2450 [21:40] <applecpugeek> just skins are not loading
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#2452 [21:40] <applecpugeek> !skins
#2453 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: in-game skins?
#2454 [21:41] <applecpugeek> yes
#2455 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: Your own avatar or others?
#2456 [21:41] <applecpugeek> mine and others
#2457 [21:41] <applecpugeek> come on my server and see it
#2458 [21:41] <applecpugeek> it isnt loading on other servers either
#2459 [21:42] <applecpugeek> :/
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#2461 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: I'm not sure where minecraft grabs skins, hang on
#2462 [21:42] <applecpugeek> k
#2463 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: Can you access this page? http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/tyteen4a03.png
#2464 [21:43] <applecpugeek> nope
#2465 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: What message does it show? Does it show an XML document, or just nothing?
#2466 [21:44] <applecpugeek> xml document
#2467 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: seems to be normal
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#2469 [21:44] <applecpugeek> come on my server and see if my skin loads?
#2470 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> applecpugeek: Sorry, no time right now
#2471 [21:45] <applecpugeek> dang
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#2476 [21:55] <medefeat> it wont let me enter my own ip to join my own world
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#2478 [21:56] <medefeat> help
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#2487 [22:19] <PteradactylB0y> Is the Mac download version of Minecraft updated to 1.3?
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#2491 [22:22] <PteradactylB0y> Can't determine if the Mac download at minecraft.net is 1.3.1....
#2492 [22:23] <PteradactylB0y> ???
#2493 [22:24] <xales> PteradactylB0y: The file you download from minecraft.net is only the launcher.
#2494 [22:24] <xales> It will download the latest version of the game for you when you log in to it.
#2495 [22:25] <Kanegasi> automatically the correct platform
#2496 [22:25] <PteradactylB0y> Thats what I thought.... it keeps loading 1.2.5 - even upon downloading agian
#2497 [22:25] <xales> ??> PteradactylB0y forceupdate
#2498 [22:25] <VoxelHead> PteradactylB0y: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2499 [22:25] <VoxelHead> PteradactylB0y: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2500 [22:25] <Kealper> PteradactylB0y: did you use MCNostolgia to downgrade your Minecraft, just curious
#2501 [22:26] <PteradactylB0y> ahhh ok
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#2503 [22:30] <PteradactylB0y> OK good to go thnx!
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#2508 [22:40] <applecpugeek> hello?
#2509 [22:40] <applecpugeek> the skins are still not loading
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#2511 [22:40] <xales> applecpugeek: Be patient.
#2512 [22:40] <xales> Also, Kealper ^
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#2514 [22:41] <Kealper> wat
#2515 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> See http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/675623-my-minecraft-skin-is-gone
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#2521 [22:54] <Infinity> I just downloaded the minecraft client, and intended to run it for the demo. However, after I click play demo, it goes to the updating screen and says "done loading", but the progress bar isn't full and it gets frozen like that. Does anyone know what is going on?
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#2523 [22:56] <xales> Much patience with that one.
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#2528 [23:03] <Nekone> I wanted to try the demo version of Minecraft. I registered for an account, downloaded Minecraft. I then logged on, chose "Play Demo" and a loading screen came up, loaded to about 90%, then froze. I've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling numerous times. Anytime I log in, it goes immediately to the same screen, loaded at 90%, that was "Updating Minecraft" I left it there for half an hour and it hasn't budged. What's wrong?
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#2531 [23:04] <Nekone> I wanted to try the demo version of Minecraft. I registered for an account, downloaded Minecraft. I then logged on, chose "Play Demo" and a loading screen came up, loaded to about 90%, then froze. I've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling numerous times. Anytime I log in, it goes immediately to the same screen, loaded at 90%, that was "Updating Minecraft" I left it there for half an hour and it hasn't budged. What's wrong?
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#2533 [23:06] <Nekone> I wanted to try the demo version of Minecraft. I registered for an account, downloaded Minecraft. I then logged on, chose "Play Demo" and a loading screen came up, loaded to about 90%, then froze. I've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling numerous times. Anytime I log in, it goes immediately to the same screen, loaded at 90%, that was "Updating Minecraft" I left it there for half an hour and it hasn't budged. What's wrong?
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#2535 [23:07] <bob0408> how do I make an icon for my desktop for minecraft?
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#2541 [23:17] <Kanegasi> i love the people that expect an answer seconds after a question
#2542 [23:17] <Kanegasi> patience apparently isnt a virtue in some people
#2543 [23:20] <ImASpork> I hate when that type of thing happens
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#2548 [23:25] <DarthSquishie> I can't even start the game. I click login, it loads, then there is a black screen. No error messages or anything. Can anyone help?
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#2555 [23:43] <joeyblythe21965> it is saying cant send chat message y is this
#2556 [23:44] <joeyblythe21965> i checked my internet good i did everything but still says cant send chat message
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