#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-14
#1 [00:00] <warfar> not really bug
#2 [00:00] <Marc_IRL> I just can't reproduce it
#3 [00:00] <Marc_IRL> I just can't reproduce it
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#5 [00:00] <warfar> the way minecraft registers mouse clicking
#6 [00:00] <Smanly> Marc_IRL: Dont scroll, double click the sixth in the list.
#7 [00:00] <Smanly> Gui on normal
#8 [00:00] <Marc_IRL> the sixth in the list is under the buttons. I can't view it without scrolling
#9 [00:00] <Smanly> Change you gui/
#10 [00:00] <warfar> gui scale
#11 [00:01] <warfar> oh yeah
#12 [00:01] <warfar> full screen
#13 [00:01] <warfar> its 7 for me
#14 [00:01] <warfar> :P
#15 [00:01] <Smanly> Yes, warfar I am hitting the cancel button.
#16 [00:01] <Smanly> But I should not be.
#17 [00:01] <warfar> like i said
#18 [00:01] <warfar> minecraft registers mouse clicking weird
#19 [00:01] <warfar> 2 click= 3 click
#20 [00:01] <Smanly> ^
#21 [00:01] <Marc_IRL> I only can see 5 servers in fullscreen. Same as yesterday when this happened to me.
#22 [00:01] <Smanly> Yep
#23 [00:02] <Smanly> Ok, lol. Marc_IRL Line up one of your servers to the "cancel" button.
#24 [00:02] <Marc_IRL> waaaaait a second
#25 [00:02] <Marc_IRL> I had my minecraft stretched weird for streaming
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#27 [00:03] <Smanly> What gui scale are you on, Marc_IRL ?
#28 [00:03] <Marc_IRL> aha, repro
#29 [00:03] <warfar> not a bug
#30 [00:03] <warfar> just a fail in mojangs part
#31 [00:03] <Smanly> How is that not a bug -_-
#32 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> You can argue until you're blue if it's a bug or not (it's not, it's a design flaw), but it's still a problem
#33 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> Playing semantics won't change anything :p
#34 [00:04] <Smanly> Its not a "bug" marc?
#35 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> A software bug is an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways. Most bugs arise from mistakes and errors made by people in either a program's source code or its design, and a few are caused by compilers producing incorrect code.
#36 [00:05] <Marc_IRL> He's arguing semantics with you
#37 [00:05] <Marc_IRL> It's still "something super inconvenient that should be changed"
#38 [00:05] <Smanly> ^
#39 [00:05] <Smanly> There we go XD
#40 [00:05] <Eddie> This discussion just BUGS me
#41 [00:05] <Smanly> No U!
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#43 [00:05] <Smanly> XD
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#45 [00:06] <Marc_IRL> Eddie: BAD PUN
#46 [00:06] <Eddie> Well that wasn't nice.
#47 [00:06] <Eddie> Get used to it, my jokes are always bad!
#48 [00:06] <Marc_IRL> :D
#49 [00:06] <Eddie> :p
#50 [00:13] <ShaRose> oh god
#51 [00:13] <ShaRose> the madwoman you randomly get after getting the wabbajack will randomly go wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack really fast
#52 [00:13] <ShaRose> and it sounds HILARIOUS
#53 [00:14] <ShaRose> she must have been doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind
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#58 [00:35] <aarghhm> i downloaded a few teture paks for my kid and now i think it screwed it up it looks 3dand he doesn't lik it at all
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#60 [00:36] <aarghhm> pls help
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#65 [00:42] <fcuked1723> hey im getting the black screen of death ive never even played the game i just bought it and ive tried everything and its updated ive even given up on trying to fix it
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#70 [01:00] <Gilded_Knight> so, falling into the void
#71 [01:00] <Gilded_Knight> who do i fix it?
#72 [01:00] <Gilded_Knight> how*
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#75 [01:06] <ssfdre38> !check smp.womjr.com
#76 [01:07] <ssfdre38> ;check smp.womjr.com
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#84 [01:15] <dalton> hey im getting the black screen of death ive never even played the game i just bought it and ive tried everything and its updated ive even given up on trying to fix it help please
#85 [01:16] <Gilded_Knight> ever do mods before?
#86 [01:16] <Gilded_Knight> wait, just bought
#87 [01:16] <Gilded_Knight> uhh
#88 [01:16] <Gilded_Knight> pics of your .minecraft folder?
#89 [01:19] <dalton> yeah 1 second
#90 [01:19] <dalton> how would i post it here lol
#91 [01:20] <Gilded_Knight> imgur
#92 [01:21] <dalton> http://imgur.com/jWPhu
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#94 [01:22] <Gilded_Knight> :P you apear to be missing every classfile
#95 [01:23] <Gilded_Knight> open your launcher go to option try a force update if you haven't yet
#96 [01:23] <dalton> sounds bad ig lol
#97 [01:23] <dalton> yeah force updating is just deleting your bin right
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#99 [01:23] <Gilded_Knight> it downloads all fresh
#100 [01:23] <Gilded_Knight> even if it doesn't need it
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#102 [01:27] <Gilded_Knight> any luck?
#103 [01:28] <dalton> 1 second its freezing right now
#104 [01:29] <Elystus> What is happening?
#105 [01:29] <Gilded_Knight> i have yet to figure out TBH
#106 [01:29] <Gilded_Knight> i'm falling into the void on my server, dalton is haveing crash issues
#107 [01:30] <Gilded_Knight> and his .jar is empty...
#108 [01:30] <Gilded_Knight> so generaly wired things
#109 [01:30] <Elystus> Gilded_Knight: How much ram does your computer have? And how muchhave you allocated to the server?
#110 [01:31] <dalton> no it didnt work
#111 [01:31] <Elystus> dalton: What exactly is happening?
#112 [01:32] <Gilded_Knight> i've got 12 gigs on mine
#113 [01:32] <dalton> i login then itll start loading then stop like right before the end and turn black either that or it just goes all the way through n turns black
#114 [01:32] <Gilded_Knight> the server is hosted on a badass mechine i don't have exact specs to
#115 [01:33] <Elystus> dalton, generate a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#116 [01:34] <dalton> alright i will thanks
#117 [01:35] <Gilded_Knight> any ideas on the void issue?
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#121 [01:36] <Dwarfspyker> Hello can any one help me?
#122 [01:37] <Dwarfspyker> Any one here =/ ?
#123 [01:37] <Gilded_Knight> clearly you haven't read where you are :P
#124 [01:37] <Elystus> State your issue
#125 [01:37] <Dwarfspyker> Well i wanted to start playing minecraft again
#126 [01:37] <Dwarfspyker> And ehm
#127 [01:37] <Dwarfspyker> Singleplayer works just fine
#128 [01:37] <Elystus> Gilded_Knight: how much memory is allocated to the server?
#129 [01:37] <Dwarfspyker> But when i go to multi player it doesn't works
#130 [01:38] <Elystus> What does it say?
#131 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> When i add an IP it does say that it's online
#132 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> But when i'm connecting to it it doesn't respond any more
#133 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> And that's not the only strange thing
#134 [01:38] <Elystus> Is there a full error message?
#135 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> If i click on cancel ( when he is connecting )
#136 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> And i click on multi player again it crashes
#137 [01:38] <Dwarfspyker> So yeah =/
#138 [01:39] <Dwarfspyker> I re-installed my minecraft several times
#139 [01:39] <Dwarfspyker> But stil ain't working
#140 [01:40] <Gilded_Knight> Elystus: i have no real idea but most likely a good chunk as i said i have none of the specs
#141 [01:40] <Dwarfspyker> Ok so what should i do? Where can i get help?
#142 [01:40] <Dwarfspyker> I can set teamviewer on if you want or get in a chat with a microphone
#143 [01:40] <Dwarfspyker> I don't mind i just want to have it fixed =/
#144 [01:41] <Elystus> Gilded_Knight: Try allocating 2 gigs to it and see if that does anything
#145 [01:41] <Dwarfspyker> Ehm, i'm not that good with computers how to do that xD?
#146 [01:41] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: I need more information... all you have told me is that multiplayer doesn't work.
#147 [01:42] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: If you name is not in a sentance, then it is not directed at you...
#148 [01:42] <Gilded_Knight> according to the host he has 6 in it
#149 [01:42] <Elystus> Gilded_Knight: You are using a host?
#150 [01:42] <Dwarfspyker> Me?
#151 [01:42] <Gilded_Knight> sort of?
#152 [01:42] <Dwarfspyker> ow
#153 [01:42] <Dwarfspyker> Srry
#154 [01:43] <Elystus> Gilded_Knight: Talk to the host about it. He may have done some settings wrong. He will have more insight to it.
#155 [01:43] <Gilded_Knight> its not on my mechine if thats what you mean
#156 [01:43] <Dwarfspyker> t/w Elystus do i whisper you now?
#157 [01:43] <Dwarfspyker> Epic fail
#158 [01:43] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: Just give me more information on your issue...
#159 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> 1.
#160 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> Wait
#161 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> Lol
#162 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> how do i Pm you?
#163 [01:44] <Elystus> Why would you need to?
#164 [01:44] <Elystus> We can talk in here,,,
#165 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> Ok
#166 [01:44] <Dwarfspyker> Well i got the newest minecraft 1.3.1 so yeah, ehm, what information can i give you?
#167 [01:45] <Elystus> Is there an error message when you try to connect?
#168 [01:45] <Dwarfspyker> No there isn't it doesn't even say that it's too long bussy with connecting.
#169 [01:45] <Dwarfspyker> I geuss i didn't have the patience also to look what happend but i waited a long time.
#170 [01:45] <Dwarfspyker> But it just got stuck on : Connecting to server...
#171 [01:45] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: Try connecting to nerd.nu
#172 [01:46] <Dwarfspyker> That's an minecraft server :P?
#173 [01:46] <Elystus> yes, try conencting to it
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#175 [01:46] <Dwarfspyker> K.
#176 [01:47] <Dwarfspyker> Can't reach nerd.nu
#177 [01:47] <Dwarfspyker> But like any other normel server
#178 [01:47] <Dwarfspyker> it DOES say in the server list that it's online
#179 [01:47] <Elystus> try connecting and leave it for a few minutes. Then tell me everything that is on the screen.
#180 [01:48] <dalton> um well i did a crash report i used option 3 with the bat file and the log.txt is empty..
#181 [01:48] <Dwarfspyker> Ok.
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#183 [01:48] <Elystus> dalton: Odd, try method two.
#184 [01:50] <Dwarfspyker> @ Elystus i did try to get a server online but stopped with it in the middle of the tutorial but i deleted all that stuff.
#185 [01:50] <Dwarfspyker> But yeah i'm just waiting for an error to pop up or any thing
#186 [01:50] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: What do you mean tutorial?
#187 [01:50] <Dwarfspyker> Tutorial for making a minecraft server with bukkit.
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#189 [01:52] <Elystus> Okay, well when connecting to a server what does it say. You have yet to tell me what it says.
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#194 [01:53] <Dwarfspyker> @ Elystus it's just loading in the screen that is saying : Connecting to the server.
#195 [01:53] <Dwarfspyker> It's not a crash or something becuz i'm still able to click on the cancel button below it.
#196 [01:54] <Elystus> It is connecting to the server >_> Leave it for a while.
#197 [01:54] <Dwarfspyker> But if i click again on the multi player menu my minecraft crashing
#198 [01:54] <Dwarfspyker> Yeah i'm trying
#199 [01:54] <Gilded_Knight> is it bad i'm entertained by all the odd errors?
#200 [01:54] <dalton> what does it mean when it says for option 2 1. Save the file, not as a text document, but using the All Files type as minecraft-report.bat it doesnt give me the option to save it like that
#201 [01:55] <Elystus> dalton: What program are you putting it in? (word, notepad, etc.)
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#203 [01:55] <dalton> notepad
#204 [01:55] <Elystus> dalton: It is underneath the name input field.
#205 [01:56] <Elystus> there will be a drop down menu.
#206 [01:56] <dalton> yeah it says all files i got that part but it wont save as a bat file do i have to name it minecraft-report.bat?
#207 [01:57] <Elystus> yes
#208 [01:57] <Gilded_Knight> all you should need to do is name it "something".bat
#209 [01:57] <dalton> ah kk thanks
#210 [01:58] <Elystus> I need sleep >_>
#211 [01:58] <Dwarfspyker> :P
#212 [01:58] <Dwarfspyker> Don't leave me! xD
#213 [01:58] <Elystus> I won't
#214 [01:58] <Dwarfspyker> :3
#215 [01:58] <Gilded_Knight> speaking of sleep how exactly does server hosting work now with 1.3? still a separate thing? or is it some odd process?
#216 [01:59] <Gilded_Knight> dedication!
#217 [01:59] * Elystus has no idea
#217 [01:59] <Elystus> Too tired to think >_>
#218 [02:00] <Dwarfspyker> But yeah it doesn't really change from this
#219 [02:00] <Dwarfspyker> http://i46.tinypic.com/34zx348.png
#220 [02:01] <Elystus> Can you connect from in browser?
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#222 [02:01] <Dwarfspyker> Let me check
#223 [02:01] <dalton> the error report didnt pop up after it crashed again cuz once it goes to the black screen i have to end it with control alt delete is that why its not working? cuz it doesnt close on its own
#224 [02:02] <Elystus> dalton: Do a force update I guess
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#226 [02:03] <Elystus> Dwarfspyker: If it doesn't work in browser, it could be your antivirus.
#227 [02:03] <Elystus> dalton: Do a force update I guess
#228 [02:03] <Elystus> I am going to head off to bed :/
#229 [02:03] <Dwarfspyker> Wait
#230 [02:03] <Dwarfspyker> How i force that?
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#233 [02:03] <Dwarfspyker> Becuz it's also not working in browser
#234 [02:03] <Elystus> ?? forceupdate
#235 [02:03] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#236 [02:03] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#237 [02:04] <Dwarfspyker> Let's hope that works =/
#238 [02:05] <dalton> it still didnt produce a error report
#239 [02:05] <dalton> it still didnt produce a error report
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#242 [02:07] <dalton> http://imgur.com/CWOsC
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#245 [02:10] <Dwarfspyker> I can't connect with my minecraft can any one help me =/?
#246 [02:10] <Dwarfspyker> Single player works but multi player doesn't.
#247 [02:10] <Dwarfspyker> I re-installed it but it didn't make a diffrence
#248 [02:10] <Dwarfspyker> It keeps staying on : Connecting to server...
#249 [02:11] <Dwarfspyker> I can click on cancel but if i click on multiplayer again i can't connect any more.
#250 [02:11] <JKL> session server down again?
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#253 [02:13] <Dwarfspyker_> So... can any one help me please?
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#257 [02:19] <Krillanr> Hello
#258 [02:19] <Dwarfspyker_> Hey
#259 [02:19] <Dwarfspyker_> Can u help me or aren't you a helper?
#260 [02:19] <Krillanr> Ah hi.
#261 [02:20] <Krillanr> Nope, I'm not a helper but I'll try to help.
#262 [02:20] <Dwarfspyker_> Well it's hard to explain shortly so i'll say what happends :
#263 [02:20] <Dwarfspyker_> I can logg in on my minecraft acc just fine
#264 [02:20] <Dwarfspyker_> Also Single players works great just as it used to be.
#265 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> But when i try multi player it starts to get strange
#266 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> The sever list DOES show me that the servers that i add are online
#267 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> But when i click on them it says : connecting to server...
#268 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> And it's not crashing but it just keeps saying that
#269 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> So if i click on cancel ( that stands below it )
#270 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> And i click again on multi player my minecraft crashes
#271 [02:21] <Dwarfspyker_> And that's my problem :P.
#272 [02:22] <Krillanr> Hmm, hate to say it but that's out of my leage, google it?
#273 [02:22] <Krillanr> league*
#274 [02:22] <Dwarfspyker_> yeah did so, but can't find ppl with sumular problems.
#275 [02:22] <Dwarfspyker_> So i'm making youtube vid about it now and hope that someone can help me with it =/
#276 [02:23] <Krillanr> I don't get why someone isn't here to assist people since the chat is onlinel
#277 [02:24] <Krillanr> How bout this issue, if two maps merge what happenes to the missing section?
#278 [02:24] <Dwarfspyker_> I don't think they can merge becuz they have a diffrent seed.
#279 [02:24] <Dwarfspyker_> I think minecraft automaticly makes a new map becuz the merge doesn't work
#280 [02:24] <Dwarfspyker_> Well that's what i had :P
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#282 [02:25] <Dwarfspyker_> Hello jamietech ur an helper?
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#284 [02:25] <Krillanr> -_-
#285 [02:26] <Krillanr> Think i'll find minecraft tech support.
#286 [02:26] <Krillanr> Later
#287 [02:27] <TheNoodle> bahaha
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#299 [02:52] <badkharma71> I have Minecraft XBOX 360 edition trying to use my first piston how do I get it to work
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#301 [02:53] <badkharma71> I mad 2 levers a piston and have some redstone torches
#302 [02:53] <badkharma71> if anyone is on xbox please help
#303 [02:53] <FingerClot> Any GM on here?
#304 [02:53] <FingerClot> Or any Technical support?
#305 [02:55] <badkharma71> I just saw the typo lol
#306 [02:55] <badkharma71> I made 2 levers a piston and some redstone torches
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#308 [02:55] <badkharma71> N e one alive here
#309 [02:56] <FingerClot> macer are you a GM or a technical support person?
#310 [02:56] <macer> GM?
#311 [02:56] <FingerClot> Game Moderator, Maybe MC doesn;'t have them
#312 [02:57] <FingerClot> But most other games have them.
#313 [02:57] <macer> just ask your question. maybe I can help you :)
#314 [02:57] <FingerClot> Kk
#315 [02:57] <badkharma71> macer do you know how to use pistons
#316 [02:57] <FingerClot> I bought MC a week ago
#317 [02:57] <FingerClot> And I got a paypal recipet number
#318 [02:57] <FingerClot> and I'm still not a prem user.
#319 [02:57] <macer> hmm
#320 [02:57] <FingerClot> I've been to all support articles, no help at all.
#321 [02:57] <FingerClot> Contacted paypal and they said nothing.
#322 [02:57] <macer> AFAIK buying premium via paypal was blocked?
#323 [02:58] <FingerClot> Nothing was blocked
#324 [02:58] <FingerClot> My account's balance was reduced by -20$
#325 [02:58] <FingerClot> So I know I bought the game.
#326 [02:58] <FingerClot> So I went from 80$ to 60$
#327 [02:58] <FingerClot> I bought the game for sure.
#328 [02:58] <FingerClot> I have a reciept and no help at all.
#329 [02:58] <FingerClot> 1 week later no premium.
#330 [02:58] <macer> FingerClot: ping mollstam on twitter with this
#331 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> [08:20] <Dwarfspyker_> Well it's hard to explain shortly so i'll say what happends : [08:20] <Dwarfspyker_> I can logg in on my minecraft acc just fine [08:21] <Dwarfspyker_> Also Single players works great just as it used to be. [08:21] <Dwarfspyker_> But when i try multi player it starts to get strange [08:21] <Dwarfspyker_> The sever list DOES show me that the servers that i add are online [08:21] <Dwarfspyker_> But when i click on
#332 [02:59] <FingerClot> I don't have twitter.
#333 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> I'll type it new xD
#334 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> Hope u can help me macer :)
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#336 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> Well, i can just start up my game.
#337 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> I can just play singleplayer good.
#338 [02:59] <Dwarfspyker_> And i can see in my server list that servers are online
#339 [02:59] <macer> FingerClot: meh. I don't have access to accounts and stuff like that.
#340 [03:00] <macer> contact mollstam /somehow/
#341 [03:00] <FingerClot> Does MineCraft have a support email?
#342 [03:00] <Dwarfspyker_> But if i'm clicking on it it stays on Connecting..
#343 [03:00] <badkharma71> hey macer or Dwarf do you know how make pistons work
#344 [03:00] <macer> oh, yes
#345 [03:00] <FingerClot> Could you please tell me their support email if you know it.
#346 [03:00] <Dwarfspyker_> @ badkharma Google : minecraft wiki
#347 [03:01] <badkharma71> Ive looked on there Dwarf
#348 [03:01] <macer> FingerClot: wait sec
#349 [03:01] <FingerClot> Kk.
#350 [03:01] <badkharma71> kinda confusing
#351 [03:01] <Dwarfspyker_> youtube tutorials? make sure you power it with resdtone and a red stone troch or redstone and a lever,button,pressure plte
#352 [03:02] <macer> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#353 [03:02] <macer> here
#354 [03:02] <FingerClot> kk thanks.
#355 [03:02] <Dwarfspyker_> =/ i hate it that my minecraft isn't working
#356 [03:03] <badkharma71> I have the xbox360 version love it
#357 [03:03] <Dwarfspyker_> Nice
#358 [03:04] <badkharma71> basically I have a house built on the top of a mountain
#359 [03:04] <Dwarfspyker_> But i prefer my own computer better :D
#360 [03:04] <badkharma71> and friends suggested I put a platform to go up
#361 [03:04] <badkharma71> I made a pressure plate lever redstone torches
#362 [03:04] <badkharma71> I can get the piston to pop up but when I flip the lever it wont go back down
#363 [03:05] <Necrodoom> badkharma71: can you give a picture of the setup?
#364 [03:05] <badkharma71> unless I remove the redstone torch
#365 [03:05] <badkharma71> yes
#366 [03:05] <badkharma71> I have pictures of it
#367 [03:05] <badkharma71> how do I send you a pic Necro
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#369 [03:06] <Necrodoom> upload to imageshack, PM me link
#370 [03:06] <badkharma71> ok is imageshack a website
#371 [03:07] <Necrodoom> yes..?
#372 [03:10] <Dwarfspyker_> Any one can help me with my problem in Minecraft?
#373 [03:13] <Dwarfspyker_> Please someone check this out and maybe you can help me ? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs&feature=youtu.be
#374 [03:13] <Dwarfspyker_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs&feature=youtu.be
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#376 [03:17] <MNECRAFT> hi
#377 [03:17] <macer> Dwarfspyker_: maybe its something with server, not your client
#378 [03:17] <macer> try other servers
#379 [03:17] <Dwarfspyker_> Give me an IP i can try that you can log on to?
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#381 [03:18] <macer> well I can PM you one of my servers
#382 [03:18] <Dwarfspyker_> Sure
#383 [03:19] <MNECRAFT> i have a question
#384 [03:19] <Dwarfspyker_> Btw where do you PM me?
#385 [03:20] <macer> uh
#386 [03:20] <macer> irc
#387 [03:20] <Dwarfspyker_> irc?
#388 [03:20] <macer> Dwarfspyker_: try to login on metropolic.pl, it's my server and it's working...
#389 [03:21] <Dwarfspyker_> Ok gonna try it right away
#390 [03:21] <MNECRAFT> i have a question
#391 [03:21] <macer> sorry but JUST ASK THE FUCKIN QUESTION
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#394 [03:21] <Dwarfspyker_> Nope doesn't work.
#395 [03:22] <macer> Dwarfspyker_: uhh
#396 [03:22] <macer> check your firewall
#397 [03:22] <Dwarfspyker_> Did you saw the video about the problem?
#398 [03:22] <macer> what operating system?
#399 [03:22] <Dwarfspyker_> I turned my firewall off
#400 [03:22] <Dwarfspyker_> Windows 7
#401 [03:22] <MNECRAFT> i want to buy minecraft but i don't want to give out credit card information
#402 [03:22] <MNECRAFT> is there another way
#403 [03:22] <macer> something is blocking ports
#404 [03:22] <Dwarfspyker_> @ mnecraft paypal?
#405 [03:22] <Dwarfspyker_> Macer wanna use teamviewer?
#406 [03:23] <macer> Dwarfspyker_: normally yes, but I have crappy net here...
#407 [03:23] <macer> I don't know if it can handle teamviewer
#408 [03:23] <Dwarfspyker_> Damn =/
#409 [03:23] <Dwarfspyker_> What am i supposed to do :( ?
#410 [03:24] <macer> we can try with TV...
#411 [03:24] <macer> I am using teamviewer7. it doesn't work with version 6
#412 [03:24] <Dwarfspyker_> TV xD?
#413 [03:24] <macer> teamviewer
#414 [03:24] <Dwarfspyker_> Wait so what do you want me to do now exactly? Start team viewer now or not? And how do i PM you?
#415 [03:25] <gv> MNECRAFT: there is no other way.
#416 [03:25] <macer> Dwarfspyker_: yeah, start teamviewer
#417 [03:25] <macer> also
#418 [03:25] <macer> /msg macer message
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#420 [03:26] <Dwarfspyker_> You got it?
#421 [03:27] <macer> connecting....
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#424 [03:37] <adrien> hello
#425 [03:38] <adrien> im having trouble hosting a server on my computer, i can connect, but my friend cant
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#427 [03:42] <adrien> anybody there? i need help
#428 [03:42] <Calinou> yes? don't ask to ask
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#430 [03:47] <adrien> well i've been having this problem for a week now, and my friend cant connect to my server, im on a mac
#431 [03:49] <adrien> it says operation timeout
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#435 [03:55] <Dwarfspyker_> If someone else than macer can help me plz watch this VIDEO :
#436 [03:55] <Dwarfspyker_> C:\Users\Ruben\Documents\GTA San Andreas User Files\SAMP\screens
#437 [03:56] <macer> *genius*
#438 [03:56] <Dwarfspyker_> Woops !
#439 [03:56] <Dwarfspyker_> I mean
#440 [03:56] <Dwarfspyker_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs&feature=youtu.be
#441 [03:56] <Dwarfspyker_> xD
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#446 [04:09] <Dwarfspyker_> I wish i could fix this so i can play minecraft....
#447 [04:09] <Dwarfspyker_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
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#455 [04:15] <Red_Avenger> when ever i try to join my server its just hangs on downloading terrain , how do i fix this?
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#457 [04:16] <Red_Avenger> 4please help me!!!!
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#461 [04:18] <Andrio> restart the server?
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#463 [04:18] <Red_Avenger> 4tried many a time
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#466 [04:21] <JKL> Red_Avenger: make sure your filesystem is not corrupted
#467 [04:21] <Red_Avenger> 4anyone know how to fix?
#468 [04:21] <Red_Avenger> 4how its a hosted server
#469 [04:21] <Calinou> don't spam colors
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#471 [04:21] * Calinou facepalms
#471 [04:21] <Red_Avenger> sorry
#472 [04:21] <Calinou> anyway; try starting a new world. stop your server, rename your world folder "world2" or something like that, restart it
#473 [04:22] <Calinou> (I presume it's a dedicated server)
#474 [04:22] <Red_Avenger> ok ill try but the thing is that its only me that cant conecet
#475 [04:22] <Red_Avenger> soor spelling
#476 [04:23] <Calinou> why only you?
#477 [04:23] <Red_Avenger> *sorry
#478 [04:23] <Calinou> do you have any mods installed?
#479 [04:23] <Red_Avenger> idk
#480 [04:23] <Red_Avenger> no
#481 [04:23] <Calinou> does singleplayer/other servers work?
#482 [04:23] <Red_Avenger> yes its only me and only my server
#483 [04:24] <Calinou> why only you? anyone else connected to your server?
#484 [04:25] <Red_Avenger> other people can but i cant and i tried force updating
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#487 [04:28] <Red_Avenger> athough when i try to join it says that i joined
#488 [04:29] <Red_Avenger> but for me im downloading terrain till it times out
#489 [04:29] <Calinou> "i" isn't another player :P
#490 [04:30] <Calinou> Red_Avenger, try clicking "force update" in the launcher options to make sure your client is vanilla
#491 [04:30] <Red_Avenger> thats me
#492 [04:30] <Calinou> don't change "view distance" in server.properties to extreme values too - keep it at 10
#493 [04:30] <Red_Avenger> ok ill make it vanilla also the servers not updated yet
#494 [04:31] <Red_Avenger> making a new world worked
#495 [04:31] <Red_Avenger> but i uninstalled all my plugins
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#497 [04:34] <Red_Avenger> it works now
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#500 [04:35] <Red_Avenger> also can someone tell me how to set the global spawn with multiple worlds?
#501 [04:36] <Calinou> multiple worlds = you need bukkit
#502 [04:36] <Calinou> if you're using bukkit > #bukkit, not here
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#504 [04:36] <Calinou> we don't support bukkit here ;)
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#506 [04:38] <Red_Avenger> ok sorry
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#510 [04:43] <Dwarfspyker_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
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#522 [05:26] <Red_Avenger> i keep getting a ping timeout error on my server is this the right place to ask?
#523 [05:27] <Calinou> don't randomly PM people Red_Avenger
#524 [05:27] <Red_Avenger> sorry
#525 [05:27] <Calinou> Red_Avenger, please answer. are you using bukkit, or a vanilla/stock server?
#526 [05:28] <Red_Avenger> bukkit
#527 [05:28] <Red_Avenger> im not sure where to ask
#528 [05:33] <Calinou> #bukkit
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#549 [07:03] <jackyboy10101> when i try to login to minecraft it says my account has migrated and to login with my email, i forgot my email and i dont know whats happening
#550 [07:05] <Grim_Reaper> You'll need to remember your email. Otherwise you cannot login
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#552 [07:07] <smartinie> Minecraft has crashed!
#553 [07:07] <smartinie> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception occured in ModLoader
#554 [07:07] <smartinie> who can help me?
#555 [07:07] <Grim_Reaper> By the sounds of it. You installed a mod incorrectly
#556 [07:07] <Grim_Reaper> We do not support in helping with Mods. You can find mod help in #risucraft
#557 [07:08] <smartinie> also for modloader crashes?\
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#560 [07:09] <lutzee> smartinie, we only support unmodded versions of the game, we cannot account for 3rd parties
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#563 [07:10] <Dwarfspyker> Hello can any one help me?
#564 [07:11] <Grim_Reaper> Dwarfspyker whats your issue?
#565 [07:11] <Dwarfspyker> @ grim this video will explain my whole problem('s)
#566 [07:11] <Dwarfspyker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
#567 [07:11] <Grim_Reaper> My internet is lagging tons. I cannot load a video right now sadly unless lutzee wants to take a look
#568 [07:12] <Dwarfspyker> Well i can explain you if you wnt.
#569 [07:12] <Dwarfspyker> want *
#570 [07:12] <Grim_Reaper> Sure
#571 [07:12] <Dwarfspyker> I did buy minecraft and i can logg in, also i'm able to play singleplayer.
#572 [07:12] <Dwarfspyker> And i'm also able to see that servers are online in my multiplayer serve rlist.
#573 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> But when i click on a server that's on it says : connecting to the server...
#574 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> And it will stay on that and won't change.
#575 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> It's not a crash because i can still click on cancel.
#576 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> But if i click on cancel and click on multi player again
#577 [07:13] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried connecting to other servers?
#578 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> My Whole Minecraft crashes
#579 [07:13] <Dwarfspyker> Yes i did.
#580 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps try reinstall minecraft from scratch.
#581 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> I presume you're running windows
#582 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> Already did that.
#583 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> so
#584 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> Already turned off my Fire wall.
#585 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> ?? appdata/.minecraft
#586 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> Also Rebootet.
#587 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> Yes
#588 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> .%apddata%
#589 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> ?? %appdata%/.minecraft
#590 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> yes
#591 [07:14] <lutzee> ?? win/minecraft
#592 [07:14] <lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#593 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right
#594 [07:14] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#595 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> yes i deleted whole .minecraft
#596 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh ok
#597 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> Then Im not too sure
#598 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> make sure to disable anti viruses
#599 [07:14] <Dwarfspyker> xD your not the first 1 i ask here in this chat
#600 [07:14] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure ports are not being blocked by firewall
#601 [07:15] <Grim_Reaper> Things like that
#602 [07:15] <Dwarfspyker> How can i check that?
#603 [07:15] <lutzee> Disable firewall, :p what antivirus software is on the PC?
#604 [07:15] <Dwarfspyker> Only Spybot Search and Destroy and i turned Windows Fire Wall OFF.
#605 [07:16] <Dwarfspyker> So yeah =/
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#607 [07:17] <lutzee> Hmm how long have you left it like that? at some point it should just go "Disconnected: Timed out"
#608 [07:17] <jackyboy10101> Is there a minecraft official on?
#609 [07:17] <Dwarfspyker> I did it for about 10 minutes and it didn't give any warning.
#610 [07:17] <lutzee> jackyboy10101, no one here is affiliated with mojang
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#612 [07:18] <Dwarfspyker> So yeah lutzee this is what i have :
#613 [07:18] <Dwarfspyker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
#614 [07:18] <Dwarfspyker> =/
#615 [07:18] <lutzee> Dwarfspyker, thats the odd thing, after about a minute it should just time out
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#630 [07:43] <Dwarfspyker> Can any one help me with my problem =/ ?
#631 [07:43] <Dwarfspyker> This video wil explain all :
#632 [07:43] <Dwarfspyker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
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#646 [08:01] <Razza14> hi can someone advise me on help with the plugin votifier
#647 [08:01] <Razza14> i want it too work so it awards a player an random item for voting on planet minecraft
#648 [08:01] <Calinou> > #bukkit
#649 [08:01] <Razza14> yes its bukkit
#650 [08:01] <Calinou> planetminecraft doesn't support awards, iirc
#651 [08:01] <Razza14> oh ok
#652 [08:02] <Calinou> then ask in #bukkit
#653 [08:02] <Calinou> minestatus/MCSL however do
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#661 [08:22] <Kanegasi> Calinou: "#bukkit" "yes its bukkit" Hilarious!
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#682 [08:53] <Kanegasi> 0.o
#683 [08:54] <Kanegasi> its actually easy to earn money on youtube... i mean look at all the reply girls with... uhm... personality... yea
#684 [08:54] <Kanegasi> ahem
#685 [08:56] <Calinou> lol
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#688 [08:59] <picklejuice290> howdo i fix not enough memory
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#691 [08:59] <picklejuice290> how do i fix not enough memory
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#693 [09:00] <Kanegasi> you need to add java flags
#694 [09:00] <picklejuice290> how
#695 [09:00] <Kanegasi> first, do you use magiclauncher?
#696 [09:00] <picklejuice290> no
#697 [09:01] <lutzee> slow down..
#698 [09:01] <Kanegasi> okay, in your windows control panel, there is a java option. select it. in the resulting window popup, click the java tab
#699 [09:01] <lutzee> picklejuice290, how much ram does your PC have?
#700 [09:01] <picklejuice290> 2gb
#701 [09:01] <Kanegasi> ahh... good place to start :P
#702 [09:02] <picklejuice290> what next
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#704 [09:02] <lutzee> hmm it would be a good idea to assign less ram
#705 [09:03] <lutzee> 'That way the garbage collector will kick in sooner
#706 [09:03] <picklejuice290> assign less ro=am to minecraft?
#707 [09:03] <picklejuice290> ram
#708 [09:03] <Kanegasi> im assuming 1024 is a good value to xmx?
#709 [09:03] <lutzee> yes, i'm sue Kanegasi can explain that :p
#710 [09:03] <Jasmine> Less roam :)
#711 [09:03] <lutzee> Kanegasi, that is default
#712 [09:03] <Kanegasi> oh
#713 [09:03] <Kanegasi> okay, in java tab, click view
#714 [09:03] <lutzee> -Xmx512 -Xms256
#715 [09:04] <Kanegasi> ^ put that in runtime parameters box
#716 [09:04] <Kanegasi> hit enter, then hit OK
#717 [09:04] <picklejuice290> both in one box
#718 [09:04] <Kanegasi> yes
#719 [09:05] <Kanegasi> hitting enter ensures the values stay. for some reason, just hitting OK doest save that. now in the main java window, hit apply
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#721 [09:07] <picklejuice290> then what
#722 [09:07] <Kanegasi> thats it
#723 [09:07] <picklejuice290> so it should work now?
#724 [09:07] <Kanegasi> your minecraft should run just fine now, but with only 2gb, i suggest not using any hd textures
#725 [09:08] <picklejuice290> thanks
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#727 [09:09] <Kanegasi> i play minecraft normally with my wow guildies and we got another guildie to join in. in the process of troubleshooting that same problem, we discovered he also had 2gb ram
#728 [09:09] <Kanegasi> ...on a 64bit system
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#730 [09:09] <Kanegasi> i didnt even know that was possible, but he has been playing games with that for ages
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#740 [09:23] <private_quake> for minecraft computer edition all of the controls are button 1. how do I get them back to normal?
#741 [09:24] <private_quake> if you are there can you tell me!
#742 [09:24] <private_quake> i havent done one of these before!
#743 [09:25] <private_quake> say something
#744 [09:25] <Andrio> You can change it in the game menu
#745 [09:25] <private_quake> please
#746 [09:25] <Andrio> under options -> controls I think
#747 [09:25] <Sophia> wow
#748 [09:25] <private_quake> where is that?
#749 [09:25] * Calinou doesn't have pocket edition :/
#749 [09:26] <Sophia> seriously, add a "have patience" part to the topic..
#750 [09:26] <Sophia> I have pocket ed
#751 [09:26] <Calinou> won't solve anything; you can't make people go 15 years backwards
#752 [09:26] <Sophia> menu button -> main menu
#753 [09:26] <private_quake> sorry im just mad i cant play it
#754 [09:26] <Sophia> options
#755 [09:26] <Sophia> then quit being mad and poke about :I
#756 [09:26] <Sophia> press buttons and see what happens
#757 [09:27] <Sophia> have some curiousity and deduction
#758 [09:27] <private_quake> k
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#760 [09:27] <private_quake> i cant find the game menu>
#761 [09:28] <Sophia> its on xperia play right?
#762 [09:28] <private_quake> i dont know.
#763 [09:28] <Andrio> private_quake, are you on the PC version or something else?
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#765 [09:28] <Andrio> Just to be clear on this
#766 [09:28] <private_quake> ya pc
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#768 [09:29] <Sophia> you said pocket ed earlier..
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#770 [09:29] * Andrio points at 'computer edition'.
#770 [09:29] <Sophia> >.>;
#771 [09:29] <private_quake> i said computer edition
#772 [09:29] <Calinou> whenver I read "edition" I think "pocket edition"
#773 [09:29] * Calinou stabs himself
#773 [09:29] <private_quake> oh sorry
#774 [09:30] <Andrio> :O
#775 [09:30] <Calinou> well then options > controls > click something and press any key
#776 [09:30] <Andrio> Calinou, that wasn't necessary
#777 [09:30] <Calinou> sorry :P
#778 [09:30] <private_quake> oh thats working thx.
#779 [09:30] <Sophia> just restart minecraft and go to options on the main menu..
#780 [09:31] <Andrio> macer, that's not how ping timeouts are handled here :D
#781 [09:32] <private_quake> k got it just give me a min. to see if it works.
#782 [09:32] <Andrio> it goes more like this:
#783 [09:32] <macer> what what?
#784 [09:32] <macer> emm?
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#785 [09:32] <macer> ...
#786 [09:32] <Andrio> Just saying
#787 [09:32] <Kanegasi> normal users ping timeout:
#788 [09:33] <Kanegasi> you "no ping reply in 180 seconds" 'd
#789 [09:34] <private_quake> i got everything ready except for pick block it says button 1 does that mean left click?
#790 [09:34] <Kanegasi> your mouse button 1 is left click, yes
#791 [09:34] <Kanegasi> i suggest mapping pick block to something else
#792 [09:34] <private_quake> k but i still cant pick at blocks
#793 [09:34] <Kanegasi> that is a creative function used to choose a block by looking at it
#794 [09:35] <private_quake> what?
#795 [09:35] <Kanegasi> you probably never use pick block then. map it somewhere random
#796 [09:35] <private_quake> i just want to left click to brake blocks
#797 [09:35] <Kanegasi> that would be "use"
#798 [09:35] <Kanegasi> wait... no
#799 [09:36] <Kanegasi> make sure "attack" is button 1
#800 [09:36] <private_quake> ok
#801 [09:36] <Kanegasi> and "use item" is button 2
#802 [09:36] <Kanegasi> before you ask, button 2 is right click
#803 [09:37] <private_quake> k just a min.
#804 [09:37] <private_quake> ya i got that
#805 [09:38] <private_quake> YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS THX GUYS U R MIRACLE WORKERS
#806 [09:38] <Kanegasi> (´・ω・)
#807 [09:38] <private_quake> K I THINK THATS ALL THX
#808 [09:38] <private_quake> whoops caps lock was on
#809 [09:38] <Kanegasi> ¬_¬
#810 [09:38] <private_quake> bye
#811 [09:40] <Kanegasi> i wouldnt be caught dead in a phone support center, yet i help here
#812 [09:41] <Kanegasi> and ive only been helping seriously for a day. ive been idling here for ages and just got bored yesterday
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#816 [09:45] <Duster14> Hi i have purchased premium but my account says it hasnt ?
#817 [09:45] <lutzee> Duster14, has the money left your bank account?
#818 [09:47] <Duster14> Yes it hameas , Ive had to reinstall it as i didnt have enough memory , so ive reinstalled change my password and now it says i need to purchase the full g
#819 [09:48] <lutzee> Wait you bought a new account?
#820 [09:48] <Duster14> can you check my account ? no ive logged in on my old one using a new password
#821 [09:49] <lutzee> whats the user name?
#822 [09:49] <Duster14> Duster14
#823 [09:49] <lutzee> !check Duster14
#824 [09:49] * lutzee pokes aubot
#824 [09:49] <Necrodoom> !paid Duster14
#825 [09:49] <Necrodoom> z
#826 [09:49] <lutzee> Kealper, >.>
#827 [09:50] <Necrodoom> il use other bot
#828 [09:50] <Necrodoom> <LurkBot> (Necrodoom) The account "Duster14" is not a premium Minecraft account!
#829 [09:50] <Kanegasi> one second duster
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#833 [09:51] <Kanegasi> how did you purchase the account? paypal?
#834 [09:51] <Duster14> is there a contact number i can call ?
#835 [09:51] <Duster14> yes
#836 [09:52] <lutzee> Duster14, unforunately not, mojang does not have the capacity to support a phone number
#837 [09:52] <Kanegasi> did you go all the way through until paypal redirected you back to minecraft.net?
#838 [09:52] <Kanegasi> is the purchase in your paypal history?
#839 [09:53] <Duster14> I'll have to check.
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#841 [09:54] <Kanegasi> im also interested in his out of memory error. reinstalling, changing password, and buying minecraft might be what he thinks will fix it
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#858 [10:38] <Calinou> chanserv beat you to it, AuBot
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#860 [10:38] <paddy> helllo
#861 [10:39] <paddy> anyone know how to sort the java error???
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#863 [10:40] <paddy> fishfish
#864 [10:41] <lutzee> paddy, it would help if you told us the error
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#866 [10:41] <Fishfish0001> wut?
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#868 [10:42] <paddy> java virtual machine
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#870 [10:42] <lutzee> paddy tell us everything it says
#871 [10:42] <Fishfish0001> Why was I randomly pinged?
#872 [10:43] <Calinou> paddy, are you playing classic, or the full game?
#873 [10:43] <paddy> could not create the java virtual machine
#874 [10:44] <paddy> none i cant download it
#875 [10:44] <paddy> i bought it today and it come up that could not create the java virtual machine
#876 [10:46] <paddy> calinou i bought a premium acc and i went to download it
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#878 [10:46] <paddy> and tht can up
#879 [10:46] <Calinou> paddy, what operating system (windows/mac/linux)?
#880 [10:46] <paddy> windows
#881 [10:47] <Calinou> - try uninstalling java, then install it from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#882 [10:47] <Calinou> if you are on a 64 bit windows choose Windows x64
#883 [10:47] <paddy> how do i uninstall it
#884 [10:47] <Calinou> control panel ;) "uninstall a program"
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#886 [10:49] <paddy> ok thnx
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#889 [10:56] <thisispaddy> hello
#890 [10:57] <thisispaddy> hekki
#891 [10:57] <thisispaddy> hello
#892 [10:57] <thisispaddy> lutzee
#893 [10:58] <Fishfish0001> Stop spamming.
#894 [10:58] <lutzee> yes?
#895 [10:58] <thisispaddy> what was tht link again
#896 [10:58] <lutzee> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#897 [10:58] <thisispaddy> this thing just shut down
#898 [11:00] <thisispaddy> it wont download
#899 [11:01] <lutzee> choose the offline installation
#900 [11:01] <lutzee> and click accept agreement
#901 [11:04] <thisispaddy> yea then wat ??
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#903 [11:06] <thisispaddy> lutzee
#904 [11:08] <thisispaddy> will i try and download minecraft now mate
#905 [11:12] <thisispaddy> lutzee
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#908 [11:13] <xFlakesID> Hello I've got a problem, my Account gets a 503 error when trying to connect to a server?
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#910 [11:13] <libraryaddict> !login
#911 [11:13] <thisispaddy> flaxes i cant even download minecradt
#912 [11:13] <thisispaddy> minecraft
#913 [11:13] <xFlakesID> Owkidoki so its not just me
#914 [11:13] <xFlakesID> pff i was like OMG
#915 [11:13] <xFlakesID> i thought i aws banned xD
#916 [11:14] <thisispaddy> lol
#917 [11:14] <erroch> Screwball server question if you all have a moment or two. Trying to sort out the up/downstream requirements per concurrent user on a stock bukkit server.
#918 [11:14] <Fishfish0001> http://session.minecraft.net/
#919 [11:14] <erroch> I've done some googling but keep getting absurdly varied results
#920 [11:15] <JKL> what
#921 [11:15] <JKL> 's from with session server?
#922 [11:15] <TheNoodle> ONE BAJILLION
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#924 [11:15] <moonofevil> hey
#925 [11:15] <TheNoodle> ONE BAJILLION GIGABITS
#926 [11:15] <erroch> *hangs head*
#927 [11:15] <moonofevil> whats up wit hthe multiplayer?
#928 [11:15] <moonofevil> with*
#929 [11:15] <erroch> I'm going to need a new designation for this connection speed then, Noodle
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#931 [11:16] <erroch> a WTF3 or some such
#932 [11:16] <Vwulf99> !login
#933 [11:16] <moonofevil> !login moonifevil
#934 [11:16] <Vwulf99> hello?
#935 [11:16] <TheNoodle> Glad I could help
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#937 [11:16] <Vwulf99> !login Vwulf99
#938 [11:16] <moonofevil> noodle
#939 [11:16] <thisispaddy> the noodle
#940 [11:16] <moonofevil> whats up with multiplayer?
#941 [11:16] <Fishfish0001> Session servers are down.
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#943 [11:16] <moonofevil> i got on myn
#944 [11:16] <Fishfish0001> Or were down.
#945 [11:17] <JKL> did work now
#946 [11:17] <perry> hi
#947 [11:17] <perry> o thats cool
#948 [11:17] <Vwulf99> theyre down?
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#950 [11:17] <perry> it works
#951 [11:17] <perry> for me atleast
#952 [11:17] <JKL> worked for me too
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#954 [11:17] <Vwulf99> yep me too
#955 [11:18] <Vwulf99> it stopped working a few mins ago
#956 [11:18] <JKL> it has been down often than not lately
#957 [11:18] <thisispaddy> any one help me i keep getting error jave virtual machine
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#959 [11:19] <thisispaddy> could not create java virtual machine
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#961 [11:21] <podgerodge> My first son has an account and my second son has just bought one a few minutes ago. Both wish to use the same computer. When the second son logs on to his account he gets all the first sons information and if we delete it is deleted in both accounts. How can they run to seperate minecraft worlds as they both want to do different things.?
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#963 [11:22] <TheNoodle> podgerodge, different windows users would work.
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#965 [11:23] <thisispaddy> noodle
#966 [11:23] <podgerodge> just not sure how to do this? can you give me some guidance?
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#973 [11:30] <warchicken> Can't find it on the wiki, anyone knows the height of emerald ore?
#974 [11:30] <Calinou> 1-32 only in extreme hills and extreme hills edge biomes
#975 [11:30] <warchicken> thanks
#976 [11:30] <Calinou> spawns 8 times per chunk. only in patches of 1
#977 [11:30] <Calinou> rarity: about 50% rarer than diamond
#978 [11:31] <warchicken> Hmn, do you know if optifine has a biome finder?
#979 [11:31] <thisispaddy> calinou
#980 [11:31] <Calinou> F3 lets you see biome name; vanilla game has that also
#981 [11:31] <thisispaddy> calinou
#982 [11:31] <Calinou> have to go, sorry :P
#983 [11:31] <Calinou> ?? attitude
#984 [11:31] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#985 [11:31] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#986 [11:31] <Calinou> remember this ^
#987 [11:34] <thisispaddy> dose anyone know the minecraft phonenumber
#988 [11:34] <noah1831> there isnt one
#989 [11:35] <thisispaddy> can u get a refund
#990 [11:35] <noah1831> no
#991 [11:35] <thisispaddy> soo what if u get an error
#992 [11:35] <Fishfish0001> theispaddy: Email them and tell them what is wrong and they will probably be able to fix whatever the problem is.
#993 [11:35] <noah1831> whats the error say?
#994 [11:35] <thisispaddy> i havent even downloaded it
#995 [11:35] <Fishfish0001> Assuming it is something related to their serice and not something wrong with your computer.
#996 [11:36] <Fishfish0001> Then just email them, they can fix it if you tell them about it.
#997 [11:36] <thisispaddy> can not creat java virual machine
#998 [11:36] <Fishfish0001> WHERE are you getting this error. What is the link.
#999 [11:36] <thisispaddy> when u go to download it
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#1001 [11:37] <Fishfish0001> Downloads just fine for me.
#1002 [11:37] <noah1831> do you have java installed?
#1003 [11:37] <thisispaddy> yea
#1004 [11:37] <noah1831> java 7?
#1005 [11:37] <Fishfish0001> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1006 [11:37] <thisispaddy> yea thats the link
#1007 [11:37] <thisispaddy> i dont think soo
#1008 [11:37] <Fishfish0001> Everything on that page works just fine for me
#1009 [11:37] <thisispaddy> well not me
#1010 [11:37] <lutzee> thisispaddy, what antivirus do you use?
#1011 [11:37] <tikker> you mean you get an error while running it
#1012 [11:37] <Fishfish0001> Here is the direct link for Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#1014 [11:38] <thisispaddy> super antivirus
#1015 [11:38] <noah1831> uh
#1016 [11:38] <Fishfish0001> ._.
#1017 [11:38] <noah1831> that might be fake anti virus
#1018 [11:38] <noah1831> probably is
#1019 [11:39] <noah1831> "super antivirus'
#1020 [11:39] <thisispaddy> yea
#1021 [11:39] <noah1831> sounds fishy
#1022 [11:39] <noah1831> phishy
#1023 [11:39] <tikker> no
#1024 [11:39] <tikker> super antivirus is legit :)
#1025 [11:39] <Fishfish0001> ^
#1026 [11:39] <noah1831> probably not any good
#1027 [11:40] <noah1831> you sure you dont have it mixed up with super anti spyware?
#1028 [11:40] <thisispaddy> fish fish
#1029 [11:40] <noah1831> i googled it
#1030 [11:40] <noah1831> and only got that
#1031 [11:40] <Fishfish0001> noah1831: it probably isn't Anti Virus at this point
#1032 [11:40] <thisispaddy> yea i think it is tht one
#1033 [11:40] <tikker> well, better make sure first :)
#1034 [11:41] <Fishfish0001> thisispaddy: You need to be WAY more descriptive. All you are doing is telling us a vauge error, and you haven't told us WHERE this happens, HOW to replicate it, etc.
#1035 [11:41] <thisispaddy> superantispyware
#1036 [11:41] <noah1831> we are getting off topic anyways
#1037 [11:42] <noah1831> what video card do you have?
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#1039 [11:42] <noah1831> if you have old video drivers that might cause the error
#1040 [11:42] <Fishfish0001> noah1831: Nothing like that is going to help considering he hasn't said where, or how he is getting this error.
#1041 [11:42] <noah1831> im trying to get the information i need to help him
#1042 [11:42] <thisispaddy> when i go to download minecraft windows and i click rune and it comes up with publisher is unknown do u still want to run it i click yes and it says error: could not create java virtual machine
#1043 [11:43] <thisispaddy> run*
#1044 [11:43] <Sophia2> antivirus : just use MS security essentials
#1045 [11:43] <Fishfish0001> And there is the info. That has nothing to do with the Minecraft Website.
#1046 [11:43] <noah1831> the only thing i can think of is updating java
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#1048 [11:43] <Sophia2> its the best there is and you arent taken advantage of by greedy salespeople looking for scared computer users
#1049 [11:43] * Guest_ is now known as :carlos
#1050 [11:43] <carlos> hi
#1051 [11:43] <carlos> Can someone check if this ip is working 5.64.35.177
#1052 [11:43] <Fishfish0001> ._.
#1053 [11:43] <tikker> !help
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#1055 [11:44] <tikker> why do i always forget commands --
#1056 [11:44] <Fishfish0001> ??> help
#1057 [11:44] <Fishfish0001> ??> tikker help
#1058 [11:44] <VoxelHead> tikker: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
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#1060 [11:44] <VoxelHead> tikker: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1061 [11:44] <Fishfish0001> Eh, nvm
#1062 [11:44] <Fishfish0001> Oh there
#1063 [11:44] <tikker> we have an ip checking command right?
#1064 [11:44] <carlos> Yea
#1065 [11:44] <carlos> can someone check if 5.64.35.177 is online
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#1067 [11:44] <noah1831> sure
#1068 [11:44] <carlos> U can try it out on ur minecraft tell me if it works
#1069 [11:45] <noah1831> ok
#1070 [11:45] <tikker> !up 5.64.35.177
#1071 [11:45] <noah1831> one second
#1072 [11:45] <savemyworlds> hello, my hard drive is failing. i'm using windows 7. i have saved my minecraft folder to a memory stick. can anyone tell me if there is another way to save my minecraft settings and saved world for transfer to a new hard drive? thank you.
#1073 [11:45] <tikker> -.-
#1074 [11:45] <GreyBot> tikker: It's not just you! http://5.64.35.177 looks down from here.
#1075 [11:45] <carlos> What..
#1076 [11:45] <carlos> ....
#1077 [11:45] <Fishfish0001> Thats not accurate
#1078 [11:45] <carlos> How is it down tho i havent changed settings
#1079 [11:45] <tikker> it's not down
#1080 [11:45] <tikker> wrong command
#1081 [11:45] <Sophia2> just copy .minecraft and minecraft.exe and it should be fine
#1082 [11:45] <Fishfish0001> Well A its a hamachi IP isn't it?
#1083 [11:45] <tikker> !online ip
#1084 [11:45] <tikker> -.-
#1085 [11:45] <carlos> No
#1086 [11:45] <Sophia2> savemyworlds
#1087 [11:46] <Cherostavik> Hello. My Mojang Account only seems to work on Minecraft.net. I cannot log into Minecraft or the Support Center with it. What can I do?
#1088 [11:46] <carlos> Tyteen
#1089 [11:46] <carlos> ?
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#1091 [11:46] <carlos> tyteen are u here
#1092 [11:46] <carlos> ?
#1093 [11:46] <savemyworlds> Thank you, Sophia. Is there anything else I should know? Or is ther any dedicated way to save directly once I log in?
#1094 [11:46] <carlos> 65.34.244.57
#1095 [11:46] <carlos> check if this is on ^
#1096 [11:46] <noah1831> cherostavik
#1097 [11:47] <noah1831> you can try using cracked for now
#1098 [11:47] <Fishfish0001> Why don;t you just connect yourself… ._.
#1099 [11:47] <oldtopman> noah1831: Cracked what?
#1100 [11:47] <noah1831> minecraft cracked
#1101 [11:48] <Fishfish0001> :i
#1102 [11:48] <oldtopman> noah1831: Have you read the rules?
#1103 [11:48] <Cherostavik> I can still play offline, but my account just doesn't work. I bought Minecraft the other day, and payment went through. I just don't get why my Mojang account is going screwey like this
#1104 [11:48] <noah1831> oldtopman sry :9
#1105 [11:48] <Cherostavik> I can also still play Minecraft on the site, but not with the client
#1106 [11:48] <noah1831> :(*
#1107 [11:49] <noah1831> cherostavik go to http://is.gd/G3zPKi for account issues
#1108 [11:49] <carlos> 65.34.244.57 can someone check if this is on
#1109 [11:49] <Fishfish0001> Cherostavik: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1110 [11:49] <Cherostavik> Thank you fish
#1111 [11:49] <carlos> fish
#1112 [11:49] <oldtopman> !check 65.34.244.57
#1113 [11:49] <carlos> check my ip 65.34.244.57
#1114 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> No Im not checking your server.
#1115 [11:50] <oldtopman> XD
#1116 [11:50] <carlos> no
#1117 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> Stop spamming it
#1118 [11:50] <carlos> check if its on
#1119 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> No.
#1120 [11:50] <carlos> Yes
#1121 [11:50] <carlos> with the command tool
#1122 [11:50] <oldtopman> carlos: Nobody's looking. Stop advertising.
#1123 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> Why should I?
#1124 [11:50] <carlos> im not advertising
#1125 [11:50] <carlos> i need my ip checked
#1126 [11:50] <carlos> to see if its ports are open
#1127 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> Check. It. Yourself.
#1128 [11:50] <carlos> u guys have a command to check it.........
#1129 [11:50] <Fishfish0001> Then use it.
#1130 [11:51] <carlos> idk what it is.
#1131 [11:51] <oldtopman> It's broken.
#1132 [11:51] <tikker> !server 65.34.244.57
#1133 [11:51] <tikker> i forgot the command -.-
#1134 [11:51] <carlos> .
#1135 [11:51] <Fishfish0001> http://www.lmgtfy.com?q=online+port+scan
#1136 [11:51] <tikker> ??help
#1137 [11:51] <Fishfish0001> http://www.lmgtfy.com?q=online+server+ping+tool
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#1144 [11:52] <tikker> !server
#1145 [11:52] <tikker> meh
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#1148 [11:54] <carlos> still need to know if its on the checkers arent helping
#1149 [11:54] <oldtopman> carlos: Use an online service to check port "25565" on your IP address.
#1150 [11:55] <carlos> k
#1151 [11:55] <tikker> carlos, being rude won't inspire people to help you
#1152 [11:55] <carlos> says its open
#1153 [11:55] <carlos> but havent seen anyone be able to connect.
#1154 [11:56] <oldtopman> carlos: That's because nobody's checking. Now that it works, go advertise in #smp or on mcserverlist.
#1155 [11:56] <carlos> no i had some people
#1156 [11:56] <carlos> but they keep disconnecting
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#1158 [11:56] <carlos> im not sure if they logged of or if my server d/ced them
#1159 [11:56] <Fishfish0001> With what error?
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#1161 [11:56] <oldtopman> carlos: Go ask them then, we're not magic.
#1162 [11:57] <Fishfish0001> oldtopman: I beg to differ :(
#1163 [11:58] <oldtopman> Fishfish0001: Well, I am magic. *slightly*
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#1165 [11:59] <carlos> mcserver is dead
#1166 [11:59] <carlos> and Smp is dead
#1167 [11:59] <carlos> lol
#1168 [11:59] <carlos> 0.o
#1169 [11:59] <xFlakesID> minor hickups
#1170 [11:59] <oldtopman> ??> carlos smp/servers
#1171 [11:59] <VoxelHead> carlos: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1172 [11:59] <VoxelHead> carlos: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1173 [11:59] <oldtopman> carlos: Go post something over there.
#1174 [11:59] <carlos> k
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#1176 [12:00] <carlos> smp channel is dead haha
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#1178 [12:02] <tikker> what do you mean dead
#1179 [12:02] <tikker> plenty of people there :P
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#1182 [12:07] <Silva> hello minecraft-support
#1183 [12:07] <noah1831> hi
#1184 [12:07] <Silva> i have an question for you all ^^
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#1186 [12:07] <noah1831> ok
#1187 [12:07] <Silva> i'm sorry that i'm taking your time, but..
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#1189 [12:07] <JKL> no
#1190 [12:07] <Silva> well. my minecraft client is working properly a few times
#1191 [12:07] <Silva> but sometimes it laggs extremely
#1192 [12:07] <noah1831> its autosaving
#1193 [12:07] <Silva> and, because i'm playin with other players on the same server, i know that this aren't server lags
#1194 [12:07] <Silva> aha.
#1195 [12:08] <noah1831> oh
#1196 [12:08] <noah1831> its on a server?
#1197 [12:08] <Silva> yes.
#1198 [12:08] <Silva> but the lagg on the server
#1199 [12:08] <noah1831> is it framerate lag?
#1200 [12:08] <noah1831> or server lag
#1201 [12:08] <Silva> nope
#1202 [12:08] <Silva> it is harder than that
#1203 [12:08] <Silva> the whole movement stops to 0 fps
#1204 [12:08] <Silva> and after a few seconds, it continues normal for a few seconds and so on
#1205 [12:08] <Silva> til i kill the javaw process
#1206 [12:08] <Silva> and restart the client
#1207 [12:08] <oldtopman> Silva: What version of minecraft are you on?
#1208 [12:09] <Silva> 1.3.1
#1209 [12:09] <noah1831> are you playing on the same computer as the host?
#1210 [12:09] <Silva> no
#1211 [12:09] <Silva> the server is one in the internet, so i'm not playin locally
#1212 [12:09] <oldtopman> Silva: Are you on fast or fancy?
#1213 [12:09] <Silva> on fast
#1214 [12:09] <oldtopman> WiFi or ethernet?
#1215 [12:09] <Silva> ethernet
#1216 [12:09] <noah1831> in the setting
#1217 [12:09] <noah1831> video setting
#1218 [12:09] <noah1831> where it says advenced open GL
#1219 [12:10] <noah1831> enable that
#1220 [12:10] <Silva> yeah, it's "off"
#1221 [12:10] <Silva> oh
#1222 [12:10] <Silva> i should enable it?
#1223 [12:10] <oldtopman> Why not?
#1224 [12:10] <noah1831> it makes it so it only loads what you are looking at
#1225 [12:10] <noah1831> and decreases lag
#1226 [12:10] <Silva> i thought it would waste graphic ressources
#1227 [12:10] <oldtopman> It should make the game a bit faster, but I'm not sure what it has to do with your bug.
#1228 [12:10] <Silva> oh it does the opposite
#1229 [12:10] <Silva> i understand
#1230 [12:10] <Eddie> It can increase lag on lower-end graphics cards
#1231 [12:10] <Silva> well the graphic card is not really a high-end card, so you're probably right
#1232 [12:10] <Silva> but this problem occurs only after a lil more minutes of playtime
#1233 [12:10] <oldtopman> Eddie: I've actually found that it decreases lag as long as the processor's unloaded.
#1234 [12:11] <Silva> so it never happens at the start the first few minutes, but after half an hour eventually
#1235 [12:11] <noah1831> i have a bad graphics card and it helps a lot
#1236 [12:11] <noah1831> 8400 gs
#1237 [12:11] <oldtopman> Silva: Do the other players on the server lag too?
#1238 [12:11] <Silva> a lil, yes
#1239 [12:11] <Silva> but not hard as it happens to me sometimes
#1240 [12:11] <Silva> and when they experience that, killing the javaw process doesn't help
#1241 [12:11] <oldtopman> Is the server in the same country that you're on?
#1242 [12:11] <noah1831> if you have a bad graphics card it should still run better because it has less stuff to render
#1243 [12:11] <Silva> but when i'm restarting the client it works fine for a time
#1244 [12:12] <Silva> yes it is
#1245 [12:12] <oldtopman> Silva: Are you using any mods?
#1246 [12:12] <Silva> well as additional information
#1247 [12:12] <Silva> nope
#1248 [12:12] <noah1831> if your cpu is bad then it might cause lag spikes
#1249 [12:12] <Silva> i drove with an lore ingame the last time
#1250 [12:12] <oldtopman> lore?
#1251 [12:12] <Silva> and there was an error exception
#1252 [12:12] <Silva> oh i dunno how you call them in english
#1253 [12:12] <Silva> i'm german, just so you know ^^
#1254 [12:12] <oldtopman> What's the german word?
#1255 [12:12] <Silva> the things that goes on the railroads
#1256 [12:12] <oldtopman> Oh
#1257 [12:13] <oldtopman> Train.
#1258 [12:13] <Silva> Lore i think
#1259 [12:13] <Silva> yeah, something like that, but smaller than that
#1260 [12:13] <oldtopman> Minecart?
#1261 [12:13] <Silva> but well, the error exception was from the graphics driver. an opengl error message, which wanted me to download the newest nvidia driver.
#1262 [12:13] <Silva> yes
#1263 [12:13] <oldtopman> hrm
#1264 [12:14] <oldtopman> You should probably go download the newest nvidia driver :P
#1265 [12:14] <Silva> as for the graphic card, it is an nvidia geforce gt 430
#1266 [12:14] <Silva> haha xD i already thought of this a time ago
#1267 [12:14] <noah1831> better than mine
#1268 [12:14] <Silva> and it *is* actual
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#1270 [12:14] <Silva> well, not really sure if it really is noah1831.
#1271 [12:14] <oldtopman> Silva: 64 or 32 bit windows?
#1272 [12:14] <Silva> 32 bit
#1273 [12:15] <oldtopman> Which version?
#1274 [12:15] <Silva> windows 7
#1275 [12:15] <oldtopman> Silva: Download and install this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-301.42-whql-driver.html
#1276 [12:15] <Silva> and i have updated to the latest java version recently
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#1278 [12:15] <Silva> ok i'm trying that
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#1280 [12:15] <Silva> let's see.. is this driver newer than mine actual?
#1281 [12:15] <Silva> let's see.. is this driver newer than mine actual?
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#1283 [12:16] <Silva> the installer will answer it in a few seconds..
#1284 [12:16] <oldtopman> Silva: It's the latest version available, so yes, it's newer than yours.
#1285 [12:16] <Silva> well, mine is from 15.05.2012
#1286 [12:17] <Silva> (device manager says that, but not quite sure if accurate)
#1287 [12:17] <oldtopman> meh
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#1289 [12:17] <oldtopman> Don't worry about it, the new ones tend to play with minecraft a lot better.
#1290 [12:17] <bloser> ok i need a bit of help
#1291 [12:17] <Silva> oh thats good to hear
#1292 [12:17] <Silva> and then there is an other problem we all have at our minecraft server
#1293 [12:17] <bloser> im getting java machine error how do i fix this
#1294 [12:18] <oldtopman> bloser: What does the error say? Put it on pastebin.com
#1295 [12:18] <oldtopman> Silva: Which is?
#1296 [12:18] <Silva> the minecarts are lagging like hell when someone tries to drive with it
#1297 [12:18] <Silva> sometimes a hundred of frames got skipped
#1298 [12:18] <oldtopman> That seems to be a common issue with 1.3.1
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#1300 [12:18] <Silva> oh
#1301 [12:18] <oldtopman> I have the same issues on the servers that I play on.
#1302 [12:18] <Silva> we thought it was the performance of the server
#1303 [12:18] <noah1831> i seem to lag a lot on certain servers in 1.3.1
#1304 [12:19] <noah1831> other servers i can run on max settings with an hd texture pack
#1305 [12:19] <bloser> it says could not creat java virtual machine
#1306 [12:19] <Silva> are there some indicators there for why exactly this is happening?
#1307 [12:19] <oldtopman> Silva: Nope.
#1308 [12:19] <Calinou> performance != ping time, remember
#1309 [12:19] <Silva> yeah i know.
#1310 [12:19] <Calinou> 1.3 uses more bandwidth than 1.2.x on servers, but less CPU, though
#1311 [12:19] <Silva> but the ping response time is ok i think
#1312 [12:19] <oldtopman> bloser: Do you have java installed?
#1313 [12:19] <bloser> yes
#1314 [12:19] <Silva> so that could be it
#1315 [12:20] <oldtopman> ??> bloser win/reinst/bat
#1316 [12:20] <VoxelHead> bloser: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1317 [12:20] <VoxelHead> bloser: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#1319 [12:20] <oldtopman> Calinou: It also uses quite a bit more disk I/O
#1320 [12:21] <minecrafterror> When I open minecraft and launch it I always get a black screen. I don`t have any mods. What can I do?help me please.
#1321 [12:21] <Calinou> yes as usual :p
#1322 [12:21] <oldtopman> ??> minecrafterror force/update
#1323 [12:21] <bloser> i did the link but the error still pops up it just started today too :/
#1324 [12:21] <minecrafterror> I did that
#1325 [12:21] <Shimmy> I've been trying to get a skin for my character, but it never seems to do anything.
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#1327 [12:22] <oldtopman> bloser: What OS are you on?
#1328 [12:22] <bloser> win xp
#1329 [12:22] <oldtopman> minecrafterror: Are you using the client from minecraft.net?
#1330 [12:22] <Calinou> Shimmy, it must be 64x32 pixels in PNG format (compression does not matter)
#1331 [12:22] <Calinou> don't forget to restart the game
#1332 [12:23] <Calinou> the xbox edition doesn't let you freely choose your skin though, and you can't change your skin in the pocket edition
#1333 [12:23] <oldtopman> bloser: How much RAM do you have?
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#1335 [12:24] <minecrafterror> I only bought the game and it worked for a while
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#1337 [12:24] <bloser> i beleave a half gig
#1338 [12:25] <bloser> could the issue be java and not minecraft?
#1339 [12:25] <Calinou> minecrafterror, try using the .jar launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1340 [12:25] <Shimmy> I'll check it, it was from Skindex .
#1341 [12:26] <Calinou> bloser, try installing java 6 instead: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1342 [12:26] <Calinou> (uninstall any other versions of java first)
#1343 [12:26] <Calinou> choose Windows x64 if you're on a 64 bit windows
#1344 [12:26] <Calinou> (most windows versions are 64 bit, though some small laptops are not)
#1345 [12:27] <oldtopman> Calinou: Most installations of XP with half a gig of RAM are 32 bit machines though.
#1346 [12:28] <Calinou> yeah, 90% of windows XPs are 32 bit
#1347 [12:28] <Calinou> in this case choose Windows x86 Offline
#1348 [12:29] <lutzee> Jeb just confirmed to me the fix for the Demo will be that they can play it in the browser instead
#1349 [12:29] * Calinou facepalms
#1349 [12:29] <Calinou> let the people play in the launcher :|
#1350 [12:29] <minecrafterror> I downloaded the link but it doesen`t work.I did forceupdate again
#1351 [12:29] <Shimmy> Yep its 64x32 pixels
#1352 [12:30] <Calinou> Shimmy, when you upload it, what error message do you get?
#1353 [12:30] <Calinou> make sure you restart the game when changing
#1354 [12:31] <Shimmy> It gives me no error message. And the game currently isn't even running.
#1355 [12:31] <Shimmy> It tells me Skin has been changed.
#1356 [12:33] <Shimmy> Well now I'm getting the servers are working too hard error message.
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#1358 [12:35] <Calinou> try playing in singleplayer and see (make sure you upload the skin for the right account... and don't "play offline")
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#1361 [12:39] <Shimmy> still nope.
#1362 [12:40] <bloser> a fatal exception has occurred program will exit and could not create the java virtual machine
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#1367 [12:49] <dyvisuca> How can I download minecraft 1.2.5
#1368 [12:50] <dyvisuca> I have minecraft 1.3.1
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#1370 [12:50] <Calinou> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2_5/minecraft.jar
#1371 [12:50] <Calinou> (yes, this is legal. it's from minecraft's website)
#1372 [12:51] <Calinou> you have to replace your other minecraft.jar (this is NOT a launcher): http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft.jar
#1373 [12:51] <Calinou> you have to replace your other minecraft.jar (this is NOT a launcher): http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft.jar
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#1376 [12:51] <dyvisuca> yes, I bougth
#1377 [12:51] <Calinou> on windows it is located in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#1378 [12:51] <Shimmy> Well that was weird.
#1379 [12:52] <Shimmy> Well, I can't even upload it manually When I try, nothing appears in the upload input area.
#1380 [12:53] <Calinou> why can't you? just put the file to upload, upload and it should say "your skin has been changed"
#1381 [12:53] <dyvisuca> I have this game in an apple but I want in my other computer(windows)
#1382 [12:54] <Shimmy> The little white space next to browse doesn't say anything when I try.
#1383 [12:54] <dyvisuca> I have buy for my other computer
#1384 [12:54] <Calinou> dyvisuca, yes, then put this .jar file in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#1385 [12:54] <Shimmy> Well.. that would be why..
#1386 [12:54] <Shimmy> The text is also white ><
#1387 [12:55] <Calinou> don't use internet exploder :)
#1388 [12:55] <Shimmy> Firefox.
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#1390 [12:55] <Shimmy> but even that way didn't work :(
#1391 [12:56] <Calinou> :/ are you uploading the png file directly?
#1392 [12:56] <Calinou> or is it in some sort of archive?
#1393 [12:56] <Shimmy> Tried Archive and now trying directly.
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#1398 [12:58] <Calinou> try directly of course
#1399 [12:58] <Calinou> that's why ;)
#1400 [12:59] <Shimmy> Nope. Directly still isn't working.
#1401 [12:59] <Shimmy> Its the right account and everything too.
#1402 [12:59] <Calinou> strange... uploading the .png directly should work. what error message do you get if any?
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#1404 [13:00] <Shimmy> I don't get any. Tells me everything worked.
#1405 [13:00] <Calinou> and when you restart the game you still have the default skin?
#1406 [13:00] <Calinou> make sure you don't click "play offline"
#1407 [13:00] <Shimmy> Yes, I'm not playing offline.
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#1409 [13:01] <Danimal> I just downloaded Minecraft off the website, made an account, tried logging in and it says 'User not Premium'. So I click 'Play Demo', and it goes to a screen that says 'Updating Minecraft' 'Done loading', and has a green status bar that is about 95% full but never moves. Cant find a fix on google, anyone know how to get it to work?
#1410 [13:01] <Calinou> Danimal, are you using AVG? if so disable the "link scanner" module
#1411 [13:01] <Calinou> AVG thinks minecraft is a false positive :)
#1412 [13:02] <mincraft> lll
#1413 [13:02] <Danimal> No, I have no firewall except the windows one which I tried disabling, I also tried run as admin
#1414 [13:02] <Danimal> I also tried deleting what was in the appdata folder, but I basically erased an empty '.minecraft' folder.
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#1423 [13:09] <Danimal> know any way to fix it? Is it possible that it will work if I just buy the game?
#1424 [13:09] <Phonebookguy> oh
#1425 [13:09] <Phonebookguy> demo is broken
#1426 [13:10] <Danimal> Well that explains it... that sucks!
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#1432 [13:16] <hrbatta> HI can you help with mod-crash or are you not doing that stuff ?
#1433 [13:17] <lutzee> We can't support modded clients, you want to ask in #risucraft for that
#1434 [13:17] <hrbatta> ok thanks
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#1436 [13:18] <Kealper> !enable
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#1438 [13:21] <Danimal> Ok, so for anyone else who may come in asking what I was asking... I can verify what Phonebookguy said. The demo is definitely broken. Just bought the game and it works now.
#1439 [13:24] <lutzee> Danimal, aye there is a fix out on thursday, or maybe it's live now, and that is the demo will only be available in the browser
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#1449 [13:34] <wizard101guy20> Hello
#1450 [13:34] <wizard101guy20> I have a question
#1451 [13:35] <wizard101guy20> When i try to buy minecraft It says 26.95 USD could not be uploaded by credit/debit card
#1452 [13:35] <wizard101guy20> Why does it say that?
#1453 [13:35] <lutzee> Is this paypal?
#1454 [13:35] <wizard101guy20> No I Am using my credit card
#1455 [13:36] <lutzee> Hmm not sure, you might want to ask your bank and see what they say
#1456 [13:36] <wizard101guy20> Ok.
#1457 [13:36] <wizard101guy20>
#1458 [13:37] <Kealper> indeed, unless you live in Sweden, it's going to be an international payment, and some credit cards will block those by default, unless you ask them to allow it
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#1460 [13:37] <wizard101guy20> I do not live in sweden.
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#1462 [13:37] <Kealper> then what i said would be valid
#1463 [13:37] <wizard101guy20> So i have to ask my bank to allow the transaction?
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#1465 [13:37] <Kealper> most likely
#1466 [13:37] <Silva> rofl.
#1467 [13:37] <wizard101guy20> Then try to pay again?
#1468 [13:38] <Silva> i was here one hour ago
#1469 [13:38] <Silva> and i followed the tipp of installing a new graphic driver
#1470 [13:38] <Silva> well that worked *now*, but it crashed a few times with a blue screen before till i uninstalled the anti-virus client
#1471 [13:38] <Silva> :D
#1472 [13:38] <Kealper> ._.
#1473 [13:38] <Silva> but well okay. i hope that it will fix the problem though.
#1474 [13:39] <Kealper> if your antivirus software was causing a bluescreen, that's probably not a good sign
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#1476 [13:39] <Silva> so you basically mean that the anti-virus client was a piece of trash?
#1477 [13:39] <Silva> i agree with you, i think. maybe avg is really not so great.
#1478 [13:39] <Kealper> potentially... what antivirus software was it?
#1479 [13:40] <Kealper> oh
#1480 [13:40] <Kealper> yeah, i personally despise AVG, some people like it but ehh... i'm not one of those people
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#1482 [13:41] <Silva> i understand how you feel about AVG now. i experienced nothing good an hour ago :)
#1483 [13:41] <Silva> and i even thought about using sysprep to reset all drivers at the system
#1484 [13:41] <lutzee> Jeb just confirmed to me the fix for the Demo will be that they can play it in the browser instead <-- Kealper btw if you get people asking about the demo
#1485 [13:41] <Silva> .. just to find out, that M$ is blocking sysprep if you used it three times in a row
#1486 [13:41] <Kealper> i do however like Microsoft Security Essentials, a free antivirus software from Microsoft to anyone running Vista or 7
#1487 [13:42] <Silva> i have changed the mainboard three times because i was too lazy the last 5 months ^^
#1488 [13:42] <Kealper> lightweight, doesn't nag you to buy it, seems to do ok for protection, etc
#1489 [13:42] <Silva> instead of re-installing windows, i used sysprep. but i really start to dislike the microsoft product policies <.<
#1490 [13:42] <Kealper> lutzee: that works lol
#1491 [13:43] <Silva> they are working against piratery and at the same time against IT Administrators. this really sucks
#1492 [13:43] <Silva> but well, thank you for your support
#1493 [13:43] <Silva> i will recommend you =)
#1494 [13:43] <Silva> see ya ^^
#1495 [13:43] <Silva> see ya ^^
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#1498 [13:44] <lutzee> Kealper, great, now we have a solution, but jeb did say it will only be browser from now on
#1499 [13:45] <Kealper> works for me lol, an AuBot or VoxelHead message can just be made to point people to the demo if they ask, and if it doesn't work, oh well, no money lost from now on :o
#1500 [13:46] <lutzee> Yup, you should probably update the voxel factoid for the demo too
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#1502 [13:46] <pataul97> i need help
#1503 [13:46] <lutzee> pataul97, what is the problem?
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#1505 [13:47] <Kealper> if i knew how lol, i always forget how to edit vox's responses... i never do it enough to drive it in to my head
#1506 [13:47] <pataul97> when i launch minecraft i log in..
#1507 [13:47] <pataul97> i press play demo and then the window dissapears
#1508 [13:47] <lutzee> Kealper, er i think it was ??~
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#1510 [13:47] <lutzee> pataul97, play in the browser at minecraft.net/play
#1511 [13:47] <pataul97> i have not bought it yet
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#1513 [13:47] <lutzee> pataul97, it should work fine
#1514 [13:48] <pataul97> it just disspaers afer i click play demo
#1515 [13:48] <lutzee> pataul97, ignore the launcher, play in the browser, the launcher does not work
#1516 [13:49] <Brad1914> so im not the only one not being able to launch in the launcher?
#1517 [13:49] <lutzee> Brad1914, you trying to play the demo?
#1518 [13:49] <pataul97> and some script comes up called: hs_err pied
#1519 [13:49] <Brad1914> i have prem but it wont finish loading thru the launcher
#1520 [13:49] <Kealper> no, the demo is known to be broken under most cases when launched through the launcher
#1521 [13:50] <pataul97> sits syas java has crashed
#1522 [13:50] <lutzee> pataul97, oh... can you copy the contents of that file to pastebin.com, press submit then copy the link here
#1523 [13:50] <pataul97> sorry it says*
#1524 [13:50] <pataul97> eh..ok..
#1525 [13:51] <pataul97> there: http://pastebin.com/JyFiRbUM
#1526 [13:52] <pataul97> well?
#1527 [13:52] <lutzee> pataul97, hmm
#1528 [13:52] <lutzee> you on a laptop?
#1529 [13:52] <pataul97> yes
#1530 [13:52] <lutzee> Is it a toshibe c660 by any chance?
#1531 [13:52] <pataul97> omg yes...:O
#1532 [13:52] <Kealper> lol
#1533 [13:52] <lutzee> ?? c660
#1534 [13:52] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1535 [13:53] <pataul97> will that work/
#1536 [13:53] * lutzee had an identical log from yesterday
#1536 [13:53] <lutzee> pataul97, it should fix any problems
#1537 [13:53] <pataul97> thanks so much
#1538 [13:53] <pataul97> bye
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#1540 [13:53] <lutzee> Kealper, do you class that as creepy or?
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#1550 [14:05] <flabbergasteraaaa> hi
#1551 [14:05] <andrew_> i cant load minecraft
#1552 [14:05] <flabbergasteraaaa> i need help whit minecraft pls
#1553 [14:06] <andrew_> its saying fatal error
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#1555 [14:06] <flabbergasteraaaa> someone help me?
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#1557 [14:07] <flabbergasteraaaa> if I update to 1.3 in my world I have created with the 1.1 I have emeralds?
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#1559 [14:09] <Calinou> no, only newly generated parts of the world.
#1560 [14:12] <flabbergasteraaaa> ok tnk
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#1565 [14:22] <sigara09> I just tryed to buy a minecraft gift card but it failed, and said that i have to wait 24hrs?
#1566 [14:23] <sigara09> I want to buy it for another account so that the wife can play.
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#1569 [14:23] <pataul97> hello/
#1570 [14:24] <pataul97> anyone der?
#1571 [14:24] <sigara09> Yes i asked my question already.
#1572 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> possibly
#1573 [14:24] <pataul97> oh hi
#1574 [14:24] <DiskDaemon> sigara09: I don't think that gift cards are allowed to be used for making international purchases
#1575 [14:24] * ssfdre38 is now known as :Dan
#1576 [14:24] <sigara09> Im in the usa
#1577 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> DiskDaemon prepaid
#1578 [14:24] <VoxelHead> DiskDaemon: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1579 [14:25] <pataul97> im here to talk about minecraft running slow....
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#1581 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> pataul97 ask
#1582 [14:25] <VoxelHead> pataul97: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1583 [14:25] <VoxelHead> pataul97: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1584 [14:25] <pataul97> My Minecrat is running slow
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#1587 [14:25] <lutzee> DopeGhoti, maybe they meant a giftcode and got moneybookers block the payment not a prepaid debit card
#1588 [14:26] <pataul97> lutzee
#1589 [14:26] <DiskDaemon> Let's get some details then. Which gift card is it?
#1590 [14:26] <DiskDaemon> Let's get some details then. Which gift card is it?
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#1592 [14:27] <technowil> my minecraft closes leaving the java instance open
#1593 [14:28] <technowil> is this a vanilla problem?
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#1595 [14:30] <Lulamoon> I can't change my skin anymore...
#1596 [14:30] <Lulamoon> How can I?
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#1598 [14:30] <Humbi_Bumbi> Hello
#1599 [14:30] <Humbi_Bumbi> i need help
#1600 [14:31] <Humbi_Bumbi> Today i buy premium account
#1601 [14:31] <Humbi_Bumbi> but when im change skin it doesnt
#1602 [14:31] <Humbi_Bumbi> Do u know what is it pls help me
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#1604 [14:31] <Lulamoon> I have the same problem
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#1606 [14:32] <lutzee> Skins system seems to be having major problems at the moment
#1607 [14:32] <Humbi_Bumbi> uff
#1608 [14:32] <Humbi_Bumbi> i hope they will fix it
#1609 [14:32] <Humbi_Bumbi> xD
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#1611 [14:33] <Lulamoon> So do I
#1612 [14:33] <Humbi_Bumbi> what ?
#1613 [14:34] <Lulamoon> I have the same problem you do
#1614 [14:34] <Humbi_Bumbi> oh
#1615 [14:34] <Humbi_Bumbi> maybe tomorow they will do this
#1616 [14:34] <Humbi_Bumbi> i play at premium servers without skin ;(
#1617 [14:35] <Lulamoon> Maybe they will
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#1619 [14:35] <jfsalaba> Hello!
#1620 [14:36] <jfsalaba> Anyways, whenever I try to type something in chat, it just says "Unable to send message"
#1621 [14:36] <Lulamoon> its sending it now
#1622 [14:36] <jfsalaba> Ingame, I meant lol
#1623 [14:36] <jfsalaba> Oh, it says "Cannot send chat message"
#1624 [14:36] <jfsalaba> Not even in single player
#1625 [14:36] <Humbi_Bumbi> i got the same problem
#1626 [14:37] <Humbi_Bumbi> Problems, Problems everywhere
#1627 [14:37] <jfsalaba> 1.3 is glitchy D:
#1628 [14:37] <Lulamoon> Well thats what you get when you have a huge company
#1629 [14:37] <jfsalaba> Yeah, my friends aren't muted whenever they chat, which is the weird thing
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#1633 [14:40] <Humbi_Bumbi> What person plays League here ?
#1634 [14:41] <jfsalaba> I assume that's League of Legends? No
#1635 [14:41] <Humbi_Bumbi> Yea
#1636 [14:41] <frankie689> my minecraft isnt working. when i click on the desktop icon it says i require java runtime enviroment 1.5.0 even though i have it installed
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#1638 [14:42] <jfsalaba> Maybe just reinstall Java?
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#1640 [14:42] <frankie689> i have
#1641 [14:42] <jfsalaba> Well, I got nothing
#1642 [14:42] <technowil> my java doesnt close even after minecraft has closed
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#1644 [14:43] <Guest54002> i was wondering if i could get help setting up a single player server into a multiplayer server i can play with my friends
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#1647 [14:43] <jfsalaba> Guest54002, you could use a LAN server or set up an actualy server
#1648 [14:43] <Guest54002> i tried to set up a LAN server but it didnt work
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#1650 [14:44] <jfsalaba> Well, were they all using the same network?
#1651 [14:44] <Guest54002> i believe so
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#1653 [14:45] <jfsalaba> idk then
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#1658 [14:49] <Q> what is the most recent version of minecraft
#1659 [14:49] <Kealper> Q: change your name, please
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#1661 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 3
#1662 [14:50] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 3 = Minecraft client and server are 1.3.1 ] ... set by [ xales | Tue Aug 07 03:13:11 MST 2012 ]
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#1664 [14:50] <Guest11740> so the most recent server is 1.3.1
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#1668 [14:52] <faja92> can i have some one with the authority to reset a account
#1669 [14:52] <Guest66675> what is the most recient version of minecraft
#1670 [14:52] <TheNoodle> Nope, this channel is run by volunteers.
#1671 [14:53] <faja92> err then where can i go and it 1.3.1 guest
#1672 [14:53] <faja92> or the snap shot
#1673 [14:53] <lutzee> Guest4856, you just asked that, we said 1.3.1
#1674 [14:54] <lutzee> faja92, no one here is affiliated with mojang, what do you mean by reset an account?
#1675 [14:54] <faja92> something with my accunt and chests i dont think its counts me as a entity or something i really dont know
#1676 [14:54] * AuBot kicked faja92 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aja92 :Please keep it civil.)
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#1678 [14:55] <faja92> why was i kicked
#1679 [14:55] <Kealper> false-positive
#1680 [14:55] <faja92> terr whats that mean
#1681 [14:55] <Kealper> you spelled a word wrong and it contained a word that a bot automatically kicks for
#1682 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> because in your haste to type rapidly rather than accurately, you typoed your way into an invective
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#1684 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> anyhow
#1685 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#1686 [14:56] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi ] ... set by [ xales | Tue Aug 07 03:13:11 MST 2012 ]
#1687 [14:56] <faja92> oh im sorry
#1688 [14:56] <faja92> thanks VoxelHead
#1689 [14:56] <VoxelHead> My pleasure
#1690 [14:57] <Kohle> Marc is usually on around noon on weekdays, right?
#1691 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> I don't know that he has a typical schedule
#1692 [14:57] <lutzee> Marc coming on is totally random
#1693 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> .time stockholm se
#1694 [14:58] <lutzee> Mark is west coast US i think?
#1695 [14:58] <lutzee> not sure
#1696 [14:58] * DopeGhoti pokes vox with a stick
#1696 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> ah, well
#1697 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> .time portland, OR
#1698 [14:58] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti's time request; Portland, Oregon (45.5°N/122.7°W); Local Time: 11:58 AM PDT (August 14, 2012)
#1699 [14:58] <lutzee> mm yup
#1700 [14:58] <Kealper> .time stockholm, se
#1701 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Kealper's time request; Stockholm, Sweden (59.3°N/18.0°E); Local Time: 8:58 PM CEST (August 14, 2012)
#1702 [14:58] <Kealper> ahh, guess you have to have the comma
#1703 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> no, I just had to turn the switch on in this channel.
#1704 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1705 [14:59] <Kealper> oh lol
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#1707 [14:59] <LvcianX> Hello
#1708 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings.
#1709 [14:59] <LvcianX> Is there anybody reading me?
#1710 [14:59] <DiskDaemon> indeed
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#1712 [15:00] <LvcianX> I have a BIG issue... jeje
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#1714 [15:00] <LvcianX> When I try to open Minecraft through the MC launcher, the lancuher appears with the upper part in black, i can see the cases to put the name and pass but I cannot do anything, it blocks my computer and I have to restart
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#1716 [15:01] <LvcianX> Does anyone know how to solve this...? I've tried almost everything
#1717 [15:01] <LvcianX> Re-installing Java twice
#1718 [15:01] <faja92> err how do i submit a fourm
#1719 [15:01] <LvcianX> Re-downloading MineCraft twice
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#1721 [15:02] <DiskDaemon> LvcianX: sorry, I can't help with that right now - but someone else might be able to
#1722 [15:03] <faja92> do forcor update LvcianX
#1723 [15:03] <hipy> Hi all, since the 1.3 update it seems that minecraft clients got a bit more laggy. I get complaints all the time that users are experiencing lag. Am I the only one? (I run bukkit so i was curious if I was the only one who noticed the lag)
#1724 [15:03] <LvcianX> I don't have the option, I can't click anything, the launcher blocks itself in the time I click it to start
#1725 [15:03] <faja92> when you open the minecraft login dont login
#1726 [15:04] <faja92> you should see a options thingy
#1727 [15:04] <LvcianX> I cannot login
#1728 [15:04] <faja92> click it and click forceupdate
#1729 [15:04] <DiskDaemon> hipy: that would be because from 1.3, singleplayer runs as if it were multiplayer too
#1730 [15:04] <LvcianX> I cannot click anything
#1731 [15:04] <faja92> LvcianX: is your computer frozed
#1732 [15:04] <LvcianX> The upper part of the launcher turns black, I don't see advertising or anything, just black
#1733 [15:04] <hipy> DiskDaemon the lag is experienced on a server
#1734 [15:04] <hipy> connected to a server*
#1735 [15:05] <LvcianX> faja92 : yes
#1736 [15:05] <hipy> like if you want to excecute a command, and you type the first letters of a name and press tab, it takes a few seconds for the name to show up, something that was not like that in the previous version
#1737 [15:05] <faja92> LvcianX: wait so before you login its black on the top part of the screen
#1738 [15:05] <LvcianX> yes
#1739 [15:05] <DiskDaemon> hipy: sorry, I don't have much experience with that - and mods such as bukkit aren't dealt with in this channel
#1740 [15:06] <faja92> okay what is you os
#1741 [15:06] <LvcianX> I can't clikc to put my name or login either
#1742 [15:06] <LvcianX> Windows 7 Professional
#1743 [15:06] <faja92> errr Delete your minecraft launcher
#1744 [15:06] <LvcianX> I've tried that twice
#1745 [15:07] <faja92> and go to %appdata% and delete the .minecraft folder
#1746 [15:08] <LvcianX> How do i get to %appdata% ?
#1747 [15:08] <faja92> where can i sumbit a message or fourm to fix my account issue
#1748 [15:08] <Cisna> Open "Run" with Win+R, then enter %AppData%
#1749 [15:09] <faja92> you dont need win rar or a achriver you just need to do home a r at type in %appdata%
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#1752 [15:10] <faja92> LvcianX: you still there
#1753 [15:10] <LvcianX> I've done it
#1754 [15:10] <LvcianX> and now...?
#1755 [15:11] <faja92> redownload and make sure its the write download
#1756 [15:11] <OldMan> Hi folks. I wanted to mention something odd.I noticed that I can never login to the game(and am forced to play offline) if my VPN is connected for work. Is there a fix for this?
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#1758 [15:11] <faja92> make sure you download the client for windows not mac or linux
#1759 [15:12] <faja92> can anyone help me yet
#1760 [15:12] <lutzee> OldMan, it's probably trying to connect through your VPN you'll have to find a way to set the main network adapter
#1761 [15:13] <OldMan> It's strictly limited to minecraft. None of my other programs have a problem, and they don't use the vpn.
#1762 [15:13] <LvcianX> I did it
#1763 [15:13] <LvcianX> It does not work
#1764 [15:13] <LvcianX> the upper part now is grey, and it does nothing
#1765 [15:14] <LvcianX> I click to put my name and do the login but it's like I wasn't clicking...
#1766 [15:14] <lutzee> OldMan, It must be something to do with how minecraft picks a way to connect, I'm not sure on what you could do
#1767 [15:14] <faja92> LvcianX: are you sure you downloaded the one that said windows for the client
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#1769 [15:15] <OldMan> hmm ok. Should I post this on a forum?
#1770 [15:15] <Wraithz10> I was wondering if anyone else has an issue with buying minecraft with a visa that isn't prepaid
#1771 [15:15] <faja92> can any one direct me to a link where i can post a fourm or message and it will be read by a person who can reset a account
#1772 [15:15] <LvcianX> I'm completely sure
#1773 [15:15] <Kealper> faja92: help.mojang.com
#1774 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Wraithz10: have you any more details?
#1775 [15:16] <faja92> Kealper: i need to have it reset i can post a fourm or a message
#1776 [15:16] <lutzee> faja92, what do you mean by reset an account?
#1777 [15:16] <Kealper> faja92: what do you mean "reset", and your mojang account or minecraftforums account?
#1778 [15:16] <Wraithz10> all the info was correct and i have enough money, but after inputing all info it says transaction failed
#1779 [15:17] <faja92> lutzee: there is and eroor i cant do anything with chests its Like i am not there Like i am not an entity
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#1782 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Wraithz10: call the phone number on the back of the card. Tell them you are trying to make an international transaction which is being declined, and ask why.
#1783 [15:17] <lutzee> faja92, is this on a server?
#1784 [15:17] <Kealper> faja92: you need to talk to the server owner then, and have them delete your player's .dat file
#1785 [15:17] <faja92> on like a multiplayer minecraft server
#1786 [15:17] <Wraithz10> okay ill try it, thank you
#1787 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1788 [15:17] <heyhailey> My mind craft crashed and I reloaded it and it is still not working. What can I do to make it work?
#1789 [15:17] <faja92> NO its on everyserver i cant take anything from or put anyting in to a chest
#1790 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> heyhailey: you'll need to be more specific than 'not working'.
#1791 [15:18] <lutzee> faja92, do you know your quoted inernet speed
#1792 [15:18] <lutzee> internet*
#1793 [15:18] <faja92> err wait
#1794 [15:19] <heyhailey> When I try to play mind craft it states it has crashed. Who can I call for help?
#1795 [15:19] <faja92> not off the top of my head But i sit for hours and it still doesnt go into the chest
#1796 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> heyhailey specific
#1797 [15:19] <VoxelHead> heyhailey: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1798 [15:19] <VoxelHead> heyhailey: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1799 [15:19] <lutzee> faja92, speedtest.net
#1800 [15:19] <faja92> heyhailey: when you log in click force update eunder the options tab
#1801 [15:19] <lutzee> faja92, that won't necessarily help..
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#1803 [15:20] <Skepter> I need help
#1804 [15:20] <faja92> ask dont say
#1805 [15:20] <Skepter> Is anyone from Mojang on or something
#1806 [15:20] <Kealper> Skepter: no
#1807 [15:20] <Skepter> okay
#1808 [15:20] <heyhailey> It states /users/amijohnson/library/applicationsupport/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-08-12_19.34.48-client.txt
#1809 [15:21] <Skepter> I need help with Mojang.com and my current account
#1810 [15:21] <Kealper> Skepter: this is community technical support, if you need help with account issues: http://help.mojang.com
#1811 [15:21] <Skepter> okay
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#1813 [15:21] <Wraithz10> Turns out a friend has a paypal account so they said i could use that instead, so to anyone's knowledge, does paypal work without issues for buying minecraft?
#1814 [15:21] <faja92> lutzee: 67 ms and up
#1815 [15:22] <Kealper> faja92: what's the upload and download say?
#1816 [15:22] <faja92> lutzee: on my other computer its like 128 though and the same things happends
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#1818 [15:23] <Kealper> faja92: also, are you sure the servers you are joining do not have something to prevent people from messing with peoples' chests?
#1819 [15:23] <lutzee> faja92, what is the downspeed?
#1820 [15:23] <faja92> lutzee: its 6.78 but on my other is like 15
#1821 [15:23] <faja92> Kealper: nope
#1822 [15:23] <lutzee> that should be okay..
#1823 [15:23] <faja92> its started in 1.3.1
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#1825 [15:24] <DarkZenith> hi
#1826 [15:24] <faja92> you guys know how i can sumbit a problem
#1827 [15:24] <DarkZenith> Anyone know if there are regitration issues atm?
#1828 [15:25] <DarkZenith> niehter of my daughters account have recieved their registration e-mail
#1829 [15:25] <faja92> nopes its all good
#1830 [15:25] <DarkZenith> :/
#1831 [15:25] <Kealper> faja92: i can garuntee it is not any problem with your account
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#1833 [15:25] <faja92> Kealper: i have did it on 4 computers
#1834 [15:26] <Kealper> faja92: it's either a problem with your connection to whatever servers you are trying to connect to
#1835 [15:26] <Kealper> or... you ruled out the other or
#1836 [15:26] <DarkZenith> speaking of issues
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#1838 [15:26] <LittlePaperNinja> After playing the game for a few minutes, it says I am out of memory. I just bought and installed the game today and was not able to play it very long. Help...
#1839 [15:26] <faja92> Kealper: its on everyserver and this has been only happening cause of 1.3.1 i have 1 idea
#1840 [15:26] <Kealper> faja92: are all 4 different computers you tried it on using the same internet connection?
#1841 [15:26] <DarkZenith> my son also has an issue when conenction to me via lan, he keeps getting end of stream and other errors, he just retries and retries and it will eventually go through and connect fine...
#1842 [15:26] <faja92> no
#1843 [15:27] <faja92> DarkZenith: make sure theu are updated
#1844 [15:27] <DarkZenith> we both are
#1845 [15:28] <Kealper> DarkZenith: sounds like that might be a problem with some firewall or antivirus software
#1846 [15:28] <DarkZenith> even killed the appdata/roaming/.minecraft and executable and redownloaded them and the server
#1847 [15:28] <Wraithz10> I'm planning on using paypal to buy minecraft and was wondering if paypal has any known issues with buying minecraft?
#1848 [15:28] <ragan262> Can I buy Minecraft on someone else's account ? abandoned not premium account
#1849 [15:28] <DarkZenith> paypal is no longer supported for minecraft
#1850 [15:28] <lutzee> DarkZenith, what operating system is the server running on?
#1851 [15:29] <DarkZenith> windows 7
#1852 [15:29] <lutzee> hmm what antivirus software is it running?
#1853 [15:29] <DarkZenith> even if I try just tyhrough the single player open to lan
#1854 [15:29] <Wraithz10> :/
#1855 [15:29] <lutzee> Also mojang does accept paypal but not for build gift codes
#1856 [15:29] <DarkZenith> none atm, this is my media center and his machine
#1857 [15:29] <Wraithz10> I just want to buy premium for my account
#1858 [15:30] <DarkZenith> no web access for him and the media center is just a data storage/netflix/hulu
#1859 [15:30] <DarkZenith> have to pay via credit card
#1860 [15:30] <DarkZenith> I can't even get my 2 daughters accounts registered
#1861 [15:30] <DarkZenith> never recieve the damn veriication emails
#1862 [15:31] <ragan262> Do you know if I can claim not used account of someone else to buy game and play ?
#1863 [15:31] <Wraithz10> So paypal only has issues with buying gift codes?
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#1865 [15:31] <Kealper> ragan262: uhh... what?
#1866 [15:32] <ragan262> I want nickname that is taken, but not mine. It is obviously not used and not premium. Can I claim it when purchasing game ?
#1867 [15:32] <DarkZenith> sigh
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#1869 [15:32] <Kealper> ragan262: no
#1870 [15:32] <heyhailey> how do i use paste bin?
#1871 [15:32] <DarkZenith> anyone know mohangs actual physical contact number?
#1872 [15:33] <LittlePaperNinja> I am having a problem Minecraft running out of memory. I have a brand new computer and jsut bought Minecraft today. I went to the help section and it says to open up a program called Notepad or something like it. I am not sure what this program is and do not think it is on my computer. What other program should I be looking for?
#1873 [15:33] <DarkZenith> its crazy that they are 2.5 months behind on e-mails
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#1875 [15:33] <lutzee> LittlePaperNinja, notepad is installed on all windows
#1876 [15:33] <lutzee> PCs
#1877 [15:33] <Kealper> DarkZenith: calling them would be unwise, as they're based in Sweden... as for emails not getting sent, that's a known issue that there are some emails that never get sent because stuff screws up on their end... did it ever charge you for those?
#1878 [15:34] <heyhailey> My mindcraft keeps crashing. I did the force update and It doesnt work, the graphics just like melt altogether
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#1880 [15:34] <lutzee> start>programs>accessories>notepad
#1881 [15:34] <LittlePaperNinja> Okay...where would I find it?
#1882 [15:34] <KReflex> I need a forum moderator to change my forum title if possible
#1883 [15:34] <lutzee> DarkZenith, mojang is too small of a company to sustain a support hotline
#1884 [15:35] <LittlePaperNinja> Thanks lutzee. I found it. Let me see if I can figure out the rest now.
#1885 [15:35] <Kealper> KReflex: #minecraftforums
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#1887 [15:35] <heyhailey> anyone?
#1888 [15:36] <KReflex> Yup got it
#1889 [15:36] <KReflex> Yup got it
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#1891 [15:36] <lutzee> ?? pastebin
#1892 [15:36] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1893 [15:36] <Kealper> heyhailey: what do you mean by the graphics "melt"?
#1894 [15:37] <heyhailey> They just start blending all together and then it crashes
#1895 [15:37] <faja92> errr Why is this happening
#1896 [15:38] <Kealper> faja92: hold on, i'll start up a server and i'll have you join it... because there is literally no way for your account to be "bugged" on all servers, the only explanation is that you're joining servers that have chest protection plugins or your internet is being stupid
#1897 [15:38] <faja92> err Kealper i found a totaly vanilla server Lol you can op your self
#1898 [15:39] <Kealper> you can't just "op yourself" in a real vanilla server :|
#1899 [15:39] <faja92> well if you just opened it yah you can
#1900 [15:40] <Kealper> oh, you mean you set one up...
#1901 [15:40] <Kealper> even on a local server you couldn't open any chests?
#1902 [15:40] <faja92> no i found 1
#1903 [15:40] <faja92> yah
#1904 [15:40] <Kealper> oh...
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#1906 [15:42] <Wraithz10> Kealper: can i use paypal to buy a minecraft account for my account? I know gift codes don't work for it.
#1907 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Wraithz10 - Yes.
#1908 [15:42] <Kealper> Wraithz10: i don't see why not, many other do
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#1911 [15:42] <Wraithz10> okay, thanks. i tried two differnt visa cards but neither worked
#1912 [15:42] <Kealper> faja92: just to make absolutely sure... try joining the server kealper.com
#1913 [15:43] <Wraithz10> and neither were prepaid.
#1914 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Wraithz10 - I'd start by calling the customer support number on the back of the card. Inquire about international purchases online.
#1915 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Many banks have automatic anti-fraud protection that kicks in on purchases made overseas.
#1916 [15:45] <Wraithz10> My friend says she doesn't want to use her card anymore.. :/ she told me to wait and to ask her friend to use his paypal.
#1917 [15:45] <DarkZenith> so guys
#1918 [15:45] <DarkZenith> Any advice regarding resolving the unsent verification e-mail?
#1919 [15:46] <Wraithz10> I wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any issues when using the paypal because i really want minecraft
#1920 [15:46] <DarkZenith> or justretry later? I'd retry now but it says on both accounts that the e-mail has already been sent recently...
#1921 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Send it again, make sure you're checking your spam folder(s). If it still doesn't come through, you'll need to send a support ticket to Mojang
#1922 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Wraithz10 - There is no issue.
#1923 [15:46] <DarkZenith> lol
#1924 [15:46] <DarkZenith> they are only working on support tickets from May 28th
#1925 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, they have a backlog, yes.
#1926 [15:47] <DarkZenith> Don't really want to wait 2 months for a response when we have a planned gathering/lan party of 20 peeps this weekend
#1927 [15:47] <Wraithz10> Okay, thank you. Hopefully i'll be playing minecraft soon ^.^
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#1929 [15:47] <DarkZenith> any idea on what timeframe the retry is allowed?
#1930 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> It's usually 20 minutes
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#1932 [15:48] <DarkZenith> been 45 now and it still says that a verification e0mail has eben sent recently
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#1934 [15:49] <lutzee> DarkZenith, you are sure the email you put in is correct?
#1935 [15:49] <DarkZenith> are they so backlogged because of their insistance that everyone start migrating over to the single login for all mojang?
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#1938 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> DarkZenith - Nope
#1939 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Every account issue, every bug report, every suggestion, every "My minecraft doesn't work" email goes through their ticket system
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#1941 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> With Minecraft's popularity, and mojang's tiny support staff, they get tons of emails daily.
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#1944 [15:51] <lutzee> all must be read, most are deleted because there is no way the support can deal with them,
#1945 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Before this year, before they actually hired a dedicated support staff, their help@mojang.com email account was backlogged with over 70 thousand emails.
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#1947 [15:58] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: faja92 has an interesting problem that i can't figure out
#1948 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Shoot?
#1949 [15:59] <faja92> Kealper: wits kinda hard to explain
#1950 [15:59] <faja92> it deals with chests
#1951 [15:59] <faja92> and not being able to put things in to them
#1952 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure there's a known bug or three with chests right now
#1953 [15:59] <faja92> but i cant interact with any type of chests
#1954 [16:00] <faja92> err i havent tried a ender chest
#1955 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1956 [16:00] <Kealper> his client acts like it gets block activity confirmation from the server without actually telling the server to do something, so placing things like beds and stuff will show on his client, and he can use them and such... they just actually aren't there
#1957 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Er, what?
#1958 [16:00] <Kealper> and with chests, those are just all sorts of bugged... again like the client is just assuming the server gave it the "OK" for doing things inside the chest without actually telling the server what it's doing
#1959 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> survival? creative? Which type of server?
#1960 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> LAN? dedicated?
#1961 [16:01] <Kealper> from what i can tell, all servers, including the 100% vanilla server i just set up with a new map for testing this
#1962 [16:01] <Kealper> doesn't do it on the single player server though
#1963 [16:01] <Kealper> (or if it does, he can't tell because his client is just making lots of assumptions, to put it bluntly)
#1964 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. that doesn't make any sense..
#1965 [16:01] <Kealper> no, no it does not
#1966 [16:02] <Kealper> he's wiped .minecraft, tried it on different computers, different internet, etc...
#1967 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> I'd immediately suspect any.. different computers?
#1968 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> ... security software.
#1969 [16:03] <faja92> nope this has only been cause of 1.3.1 i think
#1970 [16:03] <Kealper> faja92: were the other computers you tried it on macs or is yours the only mac you tried it on?
#1971 [16:03] <faja92> i use mac and pc
#1972 [16:03] <faja92> and none of them worked
#1973 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Type of internet and usual ping times to the server(s)?
#1974 [16:03] <faja92> mac full pc 3
#1975 [16:04] <Kealper> he's got just normal landline internet from Frontier, already checked to make sure it wasn't mobile broadband
#1976 [16:04] <Kealper> and he was doing a speed test earlier and was getting around a 70ms or so ping on that
#1977 [16:05] <Grey> Hmm.
#1978 [16:05] <Kealper> and if i didn't know better, i'd say something was wrong with his account.. but since accounts don't work that way, i have absolutely no clue what it could be :o
#1979 [16:06] <Grey> Accounts definitely don't work that way.
#1980 [16:06] <faja92> so what do i do
#1981 [16:06] <faja92> and i thank all of for helping
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#1983 [16:06] <faja92> but what should i do
#1984 [16:06] <Grey> You're sure it's completely vanilla minecraft?
#1985 [16:07] <faja92> yah
#1986 [16:07] <Grey> New minecraft client and all?
#1987 [16:07] <Kealper> faja92: try re-joining that kealper.com server using the browser-based client
#1988 [16:07] <faja92> i did that already i had tmi but i deleted that 2
#1989 [16:07] <faja92> Kealper: whats that
#1990 [16:08] <lutzee> minecraft.net/play
#1991 [16:08] <Kealper> faja92: http://www.minecraft.net/play
#1992 [16:09] <faja92> wait
#1993 [16:10] <Grey> Also, when you say you're using separate computers, are they separate physical machines? Or are you running them in a VM like parallels?
#1994 [16:11] <Grey> I'd also like to know the network layout.
#1995 [16:12] <faja92> err soory i had a phone call
#1996 [16:15] <faja92> er hello
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#1998 [16:15] <faja92> hello
#1999 [16:16] <Kealper> faja92: from Grey: "Also, when you say you're using separate computers, are they separate physical machines? Or are you running them in a VM like parallels?"
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#2001 [16:16] <faja92> that i dont know what it is
#2002 [16:16] <lutzee> Then that would be a no
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#2006 [16:17] <faja92> err no they are seperate
#2007 [16:17] <faja92> im confuzzled
#2008 [16:17] <lutzee> just try connect to Kealper's server
#2009 [16:17] <Kealper> and the other internet connections you tried the game on... were they like.. friends' internet or something?
#2010 [16:17] <faja92> yeps and they accounts are fine
#2011 [16:18] <Kealper> i think this issue might be above my paygrade
#2012 [16:18] <faja92> you get payed Kealper
#2013 [16:18] <Kealper> no, and that's sort of what i was hinting at
#2014 [16:20] <faja92> what should i do
#2015 [16:21] <faja92> hello
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#2017 [16:21] <faja92> any hear me
#2018 [16:22] <nuhnzio> Cant' get minecraft demo to load.
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#2020 [16:22] <faja92> err you have account not a pad one though right
#2021 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> sorry, the demo doesn't work right now
#2022 [16:22] <faja92> wait can people here me
#2023 [16:22] <nuhnzio> I can see you faja92
#2024 [16:23] <lutzee> DiskDaemon, it does in browser
#2025 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> the demo only works if a premium user has already downloaded the game
#2026 [16:23] <faja92> okay good GreyVulpine what should i do
#2027 [16:23] <lutzee> I asked jeb earlier on twitter he said it will only be available via the browser
#2028 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: Interesting - I'll test that now
#2029 [16:24] <lutzee> btw here :) https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/235412286817308672
#2030 [16:25] <Smanly> Hmph
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#2032 [16:25] <faja92> GreyVulpine: should i trust Kealper
#2033 [16:26] <faja92> who thinks that i should trust Kealper
#2034 [16:26] <lutzee> faja92, Kealper is well known i would trust him
#2035 [16:26] <Kealper> well, i've been a channel op in here for years, that's got to count for something
#2036 [16:26] <DiskDaemon> faja92: Kealper is an op - you'd be foolish to not trust him
#2037 [16:26] <faja92> okay
#2038 [16:26] <faja92> thanks
#2039 [16:28] <faja92> keapler tell me when you are done
#2040 [16:28] <Kealper> faja92: logging in right now
#2041 [16:28] <faja92> kk
#2042 [16:28] <faja92> hope i didnt just get screwed
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#2044 [16:29] <Kealper> i can promise i won't do anything, i've already got two of my own accounts, and i'd have too much to lose reputation-wise if i did anything bad
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#2046 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: The in-browser demo is still a future plan - it doesn't exist yet at this stage
#2047 [16:29] <lutzee> DiskDaemon, hmm okay
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#2049 [16:30] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: can you go on my test mc server for a few minutes?
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#2051 [16:30] <xales> Wug: hi
#2052 [16:30] <Kealper> or lutzee?
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#2056 [16:31] <skyboy> it'd been locked in an infinite loop since 9:10 this morning
#2057 [16:31] <Kealper> i'd like someone else to confirm whether or not what i see is what is actually happening
#2058 [16:31] <skyboy> whoops. wrong tab
#2059 [16:31] <lutzee> Kealper, er sure minute
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#2061 [16:32] <faja92_> thanks you so much Kealper and GreyVulpine
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#2063 [16:32] <rawson02> my minecraft is not updating
#2064 [16:32] <faja92_> is it just frozen
#2065 [16:32] <faja92_> in one spot
#2066 [16:33] <faja92_> and its says done
#2067 [16:33] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2068 [16:33] <rawson02> no when i try to update it to 1.3.1 it says failed to launch
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#2070 [16:34] <rawson02> this has been happening since the update came out
#2071 [16:34] <xales> rawson02: Are you on a Mac?
#2072 [16:34] <rawson02> yes
#2073 [16:34] <xales> ??> rawson02 mac/reinst
#2074 [16:34] <VoxelHead> rawson02: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2075 [16:34] <VoxelHead> rawson02: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2076 [16:34] <rawson02> thank you very much
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#2078 [16:35] <faja92_> Kealper: is it working
#2079 [16:35] <Kealper> faja92_: i'm done with checking things out, and as stated, i've not written it down, and i've also deleted the server.log file, so the info is no longer in there either
#2080 [16:36] <faja92_> err i dont care so did it work??
#2081 [16:36] <Kealper> and i wasn't able to get the same problems as you said you were having, it was working just as fine as my account
#2082 [16:36] <faja92_> err really
#2083 [16:36] <faja92_> err
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#2086 [16:37] <Kealper> so basically we can absolutely rule out an account problem.... but i've still got no idea why it isn't working for you
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#2088 [16:37] <LvcianX> I N E E D H E L P !!
#2089 [16:37] <Kealper> LvcianX: we're not psychic
#2090 [16:37] <oldtopman> Kealper: Can you re-enable AuBot?
#2091 [16:37] <Kealper> oldtopman: i did earlier today
#2092 [16:37] <rawson02> i put my resources and saves in my bin and it did not launch
#2093 [16:37] <oldtopman> Ah, thanks.
#2094 [16:37] <Jamesandmike> hey, who knows why MC wont go past the loading screen?
#2095 [16:38] <LvcianX> My Minecraft launcher doesn't work and the browser version neither
#2096 [16:38] <Kealper> oldtopman: i'll add it so you can use !enable and !disable, hold on
#2097 [16:38] <Jamesandmike> LvcianX same here
#2098 [16:38] <rawson02> i put my saves and my resources in my bin and it dint work
#2099 [16:38] <rawson02> tdidnt*
#2100 [16:38] <faja92_> Kealper: what should i do
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#2102 [16:39] <LvcianX> I've just bought the game and I couldn't play yet
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#2104 [16:39] <xales> rawson02: You have to *delete* everything except for "saves"
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#2106 [16:39] <Kealper> faja92_: honestly, i'm completely out of ideas... i'm assuming you don't have a firewall or antivirus on your mac?
#2107 [16:39] <faja92_> err i am on a pc
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#2109 [16:39] <pkmtrainerdaniel> hello
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#2111 [16:40] <xales> Hi.
#2112 [16:40] <rawson02> how do i delete do i just put it in my bin?
#2113 [16:40] <xales> rawson02: You drag it to the Trash, just like you delete anything else.
#2114 [16:40] <pkmtrainerdaniel> duh
#2115 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> Don't macs using Lion need to enable a special permission for Miencraft to work now?
#2116 [16:40] <rawson02> ok so i keep my saves?
#2117 [16:40] <pkmtrainerdaniel> lol
#2118 [16:40] <xales> DiskDaemon: That's a different error
#2119 [16:40] <xales> DiskDaemon: (and Mountain Lion)
#2120 [16:40] <Kealper> faja92_: ahh, same question then, does that computer you are currently on have any antivirus or firewall software?
#2121 [16:40] <pkmtrainerdaniel> yes you keep your saves
#2122 [16:40] <xales> rawson02: As long as you don't delete "saves" then yes
#2123 [16:40] <faja92_> yah
#2124 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> ahh
#2125 [16:40] <rawson02> ok
#2126 [16:41] <pkmtrainerdaniel> back them up
#2127 [16:41] <rawson02> brb if it doesnt work
#2128 [16:41] <rawson02> brb if it doesnt work
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#2130 [16:41] <Gilded_Knight> so, my server has 4 gigs of ram to it my minecraft has 2 gigs of ram to it, i'm falling through the world into the void, how do i fix this?
#2131 [16:41] <Kealper> faja92_: hmm... can you try completely disabling it for a few minutes, and reconnect to that kealper.com server again, to see if the same errors happen?
#2132 [16:41] <faja92_> i just did
#2133 [16:42] <xales> Gilded_Knight: Try making a new world on the server; if the server console is spamming "Couldn't keep up" then the problem may be caused by your computer being too slow to run a server and the game at the same time.
#2134 [16:42] <rawson02> ok i just deleted my resources forever
#2135 [16:42] <xales> rawson02: You need to delete *every single* folder except the one called "saves"
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#2137 [16:43] <rawson02> every single one??
#2138 [16:43] <xales> Yes, except for "saves".
#2139 [16:43] <xales> I've told you that several times now.
#2140 [16:43] <xales> I'm not going to say it again.
#2141 [16:43] <xales> If you can't figure out this very, very simple instruction, then we can't help you.
#2142 [16:43] <rawson02> ok
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#2145 [16:45] <rawson02> yay thank you xales
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#2148 [16:49] <faja92_> thanks Kealper For all your hard work
#2149 [16:49] <Kealper> i just regret that i was unable to solve the issue...
#2150 [16:49] <faja92_> its fine
#2151 [16:49] <faja92_> ti gtg bye
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#2153 [16:49] * Kealper waves
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#2154 [16:50] <lolipopy9999> okay, i bought minecraft and i still wont let me play
#2155 [16:50] <Gilded_Knight> xales: the server is on a diffrent mechine
#2156 [16:50] <lolipopy9999> i have a recipt code
#2157 [16:50] <lolipopy9999> i just want to play in browser
#2158 [16:51] <lolipopy9999> can anyone help me?
#2159 [16:52] <Kealper> lolipopy9999: you got the confirmation email after paying?
#2160 [16:52] <lolipopy9999> hello?
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#2162 [16:52] <lolipopy9999> yeah
#2163 [16:52] <LvcianX> Is there any problem with MINECRAFT TODAY???
#2164 [16:52] <LvcianX> Because I can't play today
#2165 [16:52] <Kealper> lolipopy9999: are you having trouble logging in to the game or are just just having trouble finding where to play it?
#2166 [16:53] <Kealper> LvcianX: are you trying to play the demo or the full game?
#2167 [16:53] <LvcianX> the full game
#2168 [16:53] <LvcianX> I bought it this morning
#2169 [16:53] <Kealper> LvcianX: what happens when you try to play it?
#2170 [16:53] <lolipopy9999> im logged in. and i bought the game an hour ago, and it wont let me play
#2171 [16:53] <LvcianX> MC launcher its frozen
#2172 [16:53] <lolipopy9999> it keeps saying that i need to buy the game
#2173 [16:54] <xales> lolipopy9999: If you got a confirmation email, then you just need to be patient.
#2174 [16:54] <xales> lolipopy9999: If you did *not* get an *email*, then you need to check with your bank that the transaction was made.
#2175 [16:54] <LvcianX> I cannot do anything, the upper part is in grey, just grey with no words or letters or html, nothing, just grey and the lower with the login and options... frozen, you can't click anything, it's like nothing if you try it
#2176 [16:54] <xales> LvcianX: Go to Control Panel, then Programs and Features (or Add and Remove Programs if you are on XP) and remove everything with "Java" in it
#2177 [16:55] <lolipopy9999> how long? its been an hour. and i pay over paypal and i went through. $19.
#2178 [16:55] <Kealper> LvcianX: is there a ! in your Windows username? (the one you click when you go to log in to your computer after turning it on)
#2179 [16:55] <xales> lolipopy9999: It can take up to 24 hours.
#2180 [16:55] <lolipopy9999> damn, thats no good
#2181 [16:55] <LvcianX> I have removed all the Java and re-installed all the Java (The correct one, for me 64 bit) more than 4 times, same with minecraft files, minecraft. and minecraft launcher
#2182 [16:55] <Kealper> LvcianX: is there a ! in your Windows username? (the one you click when you go to log in to your computer after turning it on)
#2183 [16:56] <LvcianX> No, there is not
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#2185 [16:56] <Kealper> LvcianX: just to make sure, what version of Windows are you using?
#2186 [16:57] <LvcianX> Windows 7, my name is: AsSesino-X
#2187 [16:57] <LvcianX> My user name in Wondows
#2188 [16:57] <Kealper> hmm.. i wonder if the - is messing with it...
#2189 [16:57] <LvcianX> My I can't even do or try to do my log in in the launcher
#2190 [16:57] <Kealper> ?? LvcianX win/!
#2191 [16:57] <Kealper> derp
#2192 [16:57] <Kealper> ??> LvcianX win/!
#2193 [16:57] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2194 [16:57] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2195 [16:58] <Kealper> LvcianX: try what VoxelHead said
#2196 [16:58] <Kealper> because that sounds very much like what happens when you have special characters (usually !, but others too) in your Windows username
#2197 [16:58] <LvcianX> still not working
#2198 [16:58] <Gilded_Knight> any luck on the void falling issue?
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#2200 [16:59] <Kealper> LvcianX: you just downloaded that WindowsProfileFix.exe and ran it?
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#2202 [17:00] <LvcianX> yes
#2203 [17:00] <Kealper> hmm..
#2204 [17:00] <LvcianX> It does not work
#2205 [17:00] <LvcianX> appears frozen
#2206 [17:00] <Kealper> LvcianX: do you have any antivirus software installed? (possibly AVG?)
#2207 [17:00] <LvcianX> I can't click to put my name to log in, its empty
#2208 [17:00] <LvcianX> yes, AVG
#2209 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX win/avg
#2210 [17:00] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/avg) AVG's antivirus program is known to interfere with Minecraft's self-update process. You will have to disable AVG's LinkScanner feature for Minecraft to update itself properly.
#2211 [17:02] <Gilded_Knight> i take it VoxelHead is a bot?
#2212 [17:03] <Kealper> yes
#2213 [17:03] <LvcianX> OMFG
#2214 [17:03] <LvcianX> VoxelHead
#2215 [17:03] <LvcianX> you're the fucking GOD
#2216 [17:03] * AuBot kicked LvcianX from #minecrafthelp (Reason: vcianX :Please keep it civil.)
#2217 [17:03] <Gilded_Knight> that makes things a lot less strange
#2218 [17:03] <Kealper> AuBot is also a bot... lol
#2219 [17:03] <Gilded_Knight> XD so i see
#2220 [17:03] <Kealper> but anyways...
#2221 [17:04] <Gilded_Knight> so any idea how to make me not fall to the void when i log into the server i play on?
#2222 [17:04] <Kealper> so apparently AVG's LinkScanner not only breaks updating, but it also literally breaks the launcher to act pretty much exactly like ! in the username now does
#2223 [17:04] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: does it happen on every server?
#2224 [17:05] <Gilded_Knight> i don't play on multiple so i admitedly haven't checked
#2225 [17:05] <Smanly> That server may be borked.
#2226 [17:05] <Gilded_Knight> know any servers off the top of your head?
#2227 [17:05] <Kealper> ahh, one sec, let me start up a test server
#2228 [17:05] <Smanly> c.nerd.nu
#2229 [17:05] <Smanly> :3
#2230 [17:05] <Kealper> or that one rofl
#2231 [17:05] <Gilded_Knight> suddenly end of stream
#2232 [17:06] <Kealper> hmm... is the nerd.nu servers updated to 1.3.1?
#2233 [17:06] <Smanly> Pretty sure
#2234 [17:06] <Kealper> meh, i'll start up a test server just incase
#2235 [17:06] <Gilded_Knight> well
#2236 [17:06] <Gilded_Knight> thats cool
#2237 [17:07] <Smanly> I have one running XD
#2238 [17:07] <Gilded_Knight> i loged into the normal server and i stoped falling...
#2239 [17:07] <Gilded_Knight> sorry for the bother
#2240 [17:07] <Smanly> c.nerd.nu is borked.
#2241 [17:07] <Kealper> ahh
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#2243 [17:08] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: were you downloading any torrents or anything like that when you were having those issues?
#2244 [17:08] <Gilded_Knight> nope
#2245 [17:09] <Gilded_Knight> though, some one in my house may have
#2246 [17:09] <Smanly> Speedtest.net?
#2247 [17:10] <Kealper> because usually problems like that are caused by either not having enough available internet speed to get the map data from the server in a timely fashion, or caused by firewall software mangling the packets coming from the server
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#2249 [17:10] <Gilded_Knight> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2119870678.png
#2250 [17:11] <Kealper> DEFINITELY not internet issues
#2251 [17:11] <Gilded_Knight> all the numbers
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#2253 [17:11] <Gilded_Knight> the best part most other parts of my internet are slow
#2254 [17:12] <Smanly> Lol
#2255 [17:12] <Smanly> Nice internet.
#2256 [17:12] <Smanly> Hmm..
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#2258 [17:12] <Kealper> i'm jealous that you live in an area that FiOS is in :<
#2259 [17:12] <Gilded_Knight> my parents can't play farmville due to the super slow load times almose
#2260 [17:12] <Smanly> XD
#2261 [17:12] <Kealper> O.o
#2262 [17:12] <mmoneypenny> i have a minecraft server it was working but i moved my cpu to another room and now my friends cant connect. i even tried another cpu in the same room! plz help
#2263 [17:12] <Gilded_Knight> Ports
#2264 [17:12] <Gilded_Knight> are they folwarded?
#2265 [17:12] <mmoneypenny> what r ports?
#2266 [17:12] <Smanly> Thats because you are removeing the cpu from the server :P
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#2268 [17:13] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: the only thing i can think of then is that someone is downloading torrents on your internet (be it family or unsecure wireless network) and their torrent client is not configured to limit how fast it will upload
#2269 [17:14] <mmoneypenny> im only a kid plz simplify
#2270 [17:14] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: and when your internet's upload speed is all being used up, it can not quickly give data to servers, such as asking the Minecraft server for it's map, or telling Farmville what you're doing
#2271 [17:14] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: that was not directed at you
#2272 [17:14] <mmoneypenny> oh...
#2273 [17:14] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: however.. it sounds like you need to redo your port forwarding
#2274 [17:15] <mmoneypenny> how?
#2275 [17:15] <Gilded_Knight> also can i ask about redstone issues in here?
#2276 [17:15] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: that depends on your router model, were you the one who originally set up your server?
#2277 [17:15] <mmoneypenny> yes 2day
#2278 [17:15] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: you could attempt to, whether any of us will know it is a different story lol
#2279 [17:16] <mmoneypenny> brb
#2280 [17:16] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: then follow the same instructions you used then, and it should get it back up and running
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#2282 [17:16] <mmoneypenny> i did on my cpu
#2283 [17:17] <mmoneypenny> my friends still cant connect allthough i can
#2284 [17:17] * aaomidi is away: Cause i can!
#2284 [17:17] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: what IP are they trying to connect to?
#2285 [17:18] <mmoneypenny> 5.111.69.193
#2286 [17:18] <mmoneypenny> using hamachi
#2287 [17:18] <Kealper> oh... a Hamachi server....
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#2289 [17:18] <Kealper> is that still the same Hamachi address? or did the computer that was running the Minecraft server change to a different one?
#2290 [17:19] <mmoneypenny> it was the same i checked
#2291 [17:19] <Kealper> mmoneypenny: did you change anything in your server.properties file?
#2292 [17:19] <mmoneypenny> no i was playing it seconds before i moved my cpu
#2293 [17:20] <Kealper> and you can still connect using that IP?
#2294 [17:20] <mmoneypenny> i can
#2295 [17:21] <mmoneypenny> my friends cant though they say it was connection timed out
#2296 [17:21] <Kealper> and your friend is connected and logged on with your hamachi network?
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#2298 [17:21] <mmoneypenny> yes 3 friends tried afk
#2299 [17:21] * Kealper doesn't know then
#2299 [17:21] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2300 [17:21] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2301 [17:21] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#2303 [17:22] <mmoneypenny> g2g bye :(
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#2306 [17:23] <Gilded_Knight> i kinda feel bad for the lot of you :P
#2307 [17:23] <Gilded_Knight> so many issues to fix
#2308 [17:23] <Kealper> lol
#2309 [17:23] <Gilded_Knight> http://imgur.com/a/GXG7S
#2310 [17:24] <Gilded_Knight> is the redstoneing, the one presure plate can't turn off the torch
#2311 [17:24] <Gilded_Knight> the one that splits 3 ways
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#2313 [17:24] <Gilded_Knight> the last image is from the other side
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#2315 [17:25] <Gilded_Knight> is my redstone just wigging out?
#2316 [17:25] <Kealper> hmm...
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#2318 [17:25] <Kealper> dunno, let me test on my local server
#2319 [17:25] <Kealper> that should work
#2320 [17:25] <LvcianX> It worked one time and it doesn't work anymore...
#2321 [17:25] <LvcianX> aghh, minecraft launcher...
#2322 [17:26] <Kealper> LvcianX: did AVG's LinkScanner turn itself back on?
#2323 [17:26] <LvcianX> No, I've checked it
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#2325 [17:26] <Gilded_Knight> someone stole my buttons... who steals buttons?
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#2328 [17:27] <Matt_> How do i fix this error that says "hs_err_pid"?
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#2330 [17:28] <Kealper> Matt_: open that file in Notepad or something and right click in the window, hit Select All, then right click again and hit Copy
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#2332 [17:29] <Matt_> and then what?
#2333 [17:29] <Kealper> Matt_: once you've done that, go to http://pastebin.com and paste it in to there, submit it, then give us the URL of it
#2334 [17:29] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: that setup seems to work fine on my server
#2335 [17:29] <Gilded_Knight> i think i may be being southwested...
#2336 [17:29] <Kealper> Gilded_Knight: possibly
#2337 [17:30] <Matt_> http://pastebin.com/tt97t2Z5
#2338 [17:30] <Gilded_Knight> i just looked at my directions...
#2339 [17:30] <lutzee> Matt_, looks like your video drivers need updating
#2340 [17:30] <Kealper> ^
#2341 [17:30] <lutzee> ??> Matt_ gpu/amd
#2342 [17:30] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2343 [17:31] <Gilded_Knight> til SW is now SE 1.9pre4 Changed the South-West rule to the South-East rule.
#2344 [17:31] <Kealper> TIL as well
#2345 [17:31] <Matt_> what do i click on when i get to that website
#2346 [17:31] <Kealper> Matt_: up in the upper-right, where it says "Automatically Detect and Install", click the Download Now link for that
#2347 [17:32] <Kealper> then follow the instructions it gives you after you download and run that
#2348 [17:32] <Matt_> and then my game should work?
#2349 [17:32] <Kealper> hopefully
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#2351 [17:36] <Matt_> it didn't work
#2352 [17:37] <lutzee> hmm
#2353 [17:37] <lutzee> ??> Matt_ win/dxdiag
#2354 [17:37] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2355 [17:37] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2356 [17:37] <Kealper> did it find what video card you had? or did it say it couldn't find it?
#2357 [17:39] <Matt_> Here voxelhead http://pastebin.com/RD6w7f3c
#2358 [17:41] <Matt_> kealper what do you mean?
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#2361 [17:41] <lutzee> Did it install anything?
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#2367 [17:46] <LvcianX> I uninstalled my AVG antivirus
#2368 [17:46] <LvcianX> and I still can't play to Minecraft
#2369 [17:46] <LvcianX> and I still can't play to Minecraft
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#2372 [17:48] <Matt_> do i install or uninstall my AMD component
#2373 [17:48] <Matt_> components
#2374 [17:49] <LvcianX> I can't play to Minecraft, I did once
#2375 [17:49] <LvcianX> but I can't play anymore
#2376 [17:50] <Randomness> I just bought a new computer and I downloaded minecraft, my character starts blinking from its original color to a darker shade. What do I do!!!!!?!?!
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#2378 [17:50] <rackomint> Hello?
#2379 [17:50] <LvcianX> I need help !!
#2380 [17:50] <Matt_> SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS "hs_err_pid" ERROR MESSAGE
#2381 [17:50] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2382 [17:50] <LvcianX> I can't play Minecraft
#2383 [17:50] <rackomint> force Update
#2384 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2385 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2386 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2387 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2388 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2389 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2390 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2391 [17:51] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2392 [17:51] <Randomness> I just bought a new computer and I downloaded minecraft, my character starts blinking from its original color to a darker shade. What do I do!!!!!?!?!
#2393 [17:51] <rackomint> force update
#2394 [17:51] <Matt_> SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS "hs_err_pid" ERROR MESSAGE
#2395 [17:51] <Matt_> SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS "hs_err_pid" ERROR MESSAGE
#2396 [17:51] <Matt_> SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS "hs_err_pid" ERROR MESSAGE
#2397 [17:51] <rackomint> or lower settings
#2398 [17:51] <Randomness> Wait a sec, do our questions even get answered??
#2399 [17:51] <rackomint> nope
#2400 [17:51] <rackomint> this sucks
#2401 [17:51] <rackomint> man
#2402 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Everyone needs to take a moment to read the rules
#2403 [17:52] <rackomint> Mojang needs a better tech support
#2404 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> spamming the channel will not get you helped any faster
#2405 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? patience
#2406 [17:52] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
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#2408 [17:52] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2409 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> Matt_: That means your graphics card drivers need to be updated, so that they can understand the commands that are being given to it
#2410 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> rackomint smp/serversetup
#2411 [17:52] <VoxelHead> rackomint: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2412 [17:52] <rackomint> So
#2413 [17:52] <VoxelHead> rackomint: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2414 [17:52] <Matt_> okay diskdaemon how do i update them?
#2415 [17:52] <rackomint> There are actually people that answer our question?
#2416 [17:52] <rackomint> thanks
#2417 [17:52] <rackomint> btw
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#2419 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> Matt_: I see you provided that info earlier at http://pastebin.com/RD6w7f3c
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#2421 [17:53] <LvcianX> I can't play Minecraft through the launcher, the upper part turns grey and my computers is frozen
#2422 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> Matt_ gpu/amd
#2423 [17:53] <VoxelHead> Matt_: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2424 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> Randomness: looks to me like you may have a GPU driver issue based on what you described.
#2425 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX java/1.7
#2426 [17:53] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2427 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX java/1.6
#2428 [17:53] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2429 [17:54] <lutzee> DiskDaemon, i did that before :/
#2430 [17:54] <rackomint> Actually I have Java 1.7
#2431 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> LvcianX: Is there HTML text along the top of the grey part too?
#2432 [17:54] <rackomint> and it works smooth :P
#2433 [17:54] <Randomness> And also when I play Minecraft and I enter my world my screen flashes from loading to the world selection.
#2434 [17:54] <LvcianX> No, there is no HTML, it is only grey
#2435 [17:55] <Randomness> or the minecraft actually
#2436 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> Randomness specs
#2437 [17:55] <VoxelHead> Randomness: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2438 [17:55] <Randomness> I have an HP Pavilion
#2439 [17:55] <Randomness> 64 bit
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#2441 [17:56] <Randomness> I wish they had a damn calling center...
#2442 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> Randomness: is that the extent of the information you know?
#2443 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Randomness win/dxdiag
#2444 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Randomness: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2445 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Randomness: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2446 [17:57] <Randomness> 8192 MB RAM
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#2450 [17:58] <Randomness> Where can I check GPU?
#2451 [17:58] <Randomness> Within the DXDIAG thing.
#2452 [17:58] * DopeGhoti points up
#2452 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> it'll be in the first page or so
#2453 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> (usually)
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#2455 [18:00] <rackomint> Can I make a Server without a router?
#2456 [18:00] <Randomness> I'm afraid I don't see GPU
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#2458 [18:00] <rackomint> I cant find it.
#2459 [18:00] <hipy> chests are bugged, you dont see the open/close animation :(
#2460 [18:00] <rackomint> I do see it
#2461 [18:00] <Randomness> Well on my older computer Minecraft ran amazingly, I don't know what the problem with this computer is though.
#2462 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> rackomint: yes, you can.
#2463 [18:01] <rackomint> How?
#2464 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Start the server. Connect to it with a client. enjoy crafting mines.
#2465 [18:01] <rackomint> But a bukkit server.
#2466 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Running without a router is even easier than with, as you don't need to do any port forwarding
#2467 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> rackomint mods
#2468 [18:01] <VoxelHead> rackomint: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2469 [18:01] <VoxelHead> rackomint: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2470 [18:02] <LvcianX> I need help please
#2471 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Randomness: please follow the directions Vox gave you so that we can review your dxdiag output in its entirety.
#2472 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX telepathy
#2473 [18:02] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2474 [18:02] <rackomint> Yo Ghoti
#2475 [18:02] <rackomint> What do you mean "mods"
#2476 [18:02] <rackomint> What do you mean "mods"?
#2477 [18:03] <Kealper> rackomint: bukkit is considered a modification to the stock game
#2478 [18:03] <rackomint> Hm, it is.
#2479 [18:03] <LvcianX> I can't play to Minecraft through the launcher neither through the web browser
#2480 [18:03] <rackomint> but
#2481 [18:03] <rackomint> but
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#2485 [18:03] <LvcianX> The launcher appears with the upper part in grey, just in grey without any word or letter or HTML, frozen grey
#2486 [18:03] <rackomint> So is it possible to put plugins on an original server?
#2487 [18:04] <LvcianX> and I can't click to log in or to Options, it is all frozen
#2488 [18:04] <rackomint> Lucian?
#2489 [18:04] <LvcianX> I have already checked my Java and I have 1.6
#2490 [18:04] <rackomint> Lvcian?*
#2491 [18:04] <Kealper> rackomint: no, but starting a Bukkit server is not hard, they give you a .bat file (it's icon is a box with gears in it) to start it for you
#2492 [18:04] <scarelientje> does anyone know how you can find your village quickly
#2493 [18:04] <Kealper> rackomint: just double-click that file and a black window should come up
#2494 [18:04] <rackomint> Yes, i know.
#2495 [18:04] <rackomint> I used to have one
#2496 [18:04] <rackomint> When I had a router.
#2497 [18:04] <rackomint> xD
#2498 [18:05] <Kealper> rackomint: a router has absolutely nothing to do with the files on your computer
#2499 [18:05] <rackomint> So lemme give it a try and i will come back
#2500 [18:05] <rackomint> i know
#2501 [18:05] <LvcianX> I uninstalled my antivirus AVG because of the LinkScanner...
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#2503 [18:05] <LvcianX> i've restarted more than 3 times my computer
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#2505 [18:05] <LvcianX> but I still can't play to Minecraft
#2506 [18:05] <Kanegasi> scarelientje: villages are just another randomly generated part of the game. you cant just find one
#2507 [18:05] <Kealper> LvcianX: have you tried the browser-version of the game?
#2508 [18:06] <LvcianX> yes, it doesn't work
#2509 [18:06] <Kealper> LvcianX: go to the browser version of the game, wait for it to stop working, and leave it right there and tell me
#2510 [18:06] <Kanegasi> lvcianx: what exactly is the linkscanner doing? i swear by avg and i dont have issues
#2511 [18:06] <rackomint> do I need to add something to the firewall?
#2512 [18:06] <Kealper> Kanegasi: lots of people have problems with the LinkScanner part of AVG messing with the launcher
#2513 [18:07] <Kanegasi> ahh
#2514 [18:07] <LvcianX> I uninstalled AVG
#2515 [18:07] <Kealper> rackomint: only to allow traffic on port 25565, TCP
#2516 [18:07] <LvcianX> I don't have LinkScanner anymore
#2517 [18:07] <rackomint> TCP only?
#2518 [18:07] <Kealper> rackomint: yes
#2519 [18:07] <rackomint> ok thank you
#2520 [18:07] <scarelientje> my little brother wants to know how you can play online he has an account but he cant log in
#2521 [18:07] <Kealper> scarelientje: what happens when he tried to log in?
#2522 [18:08] <rackomint> inbound, outbound or both?
#2523 [18:08] <Kealper> LvcianX: i'd still like you to try the browser version, and when it stops working, tell me
#2524 [18:09] <LvcianX> I can't try the web version roght now because I'd have to uninstall again my Java 1.6 version and update to the 1.7 version
#2525 [18:09] <Randomness> I give up. =(
#2526 [18:09] <LvcianX> right now
#2527 [18:09] <LvcianX> I have a different problem, I don't know how
#2528 [18:09] <scarelientje> can't connect to minecraft.net
#2529 [18:09] <LvcianX> when I try to launch the launche
#2530 [18:09] <Randomness> I can't fucking open my damn dxdiag stuff.
#2531 [18:09] * AuBot kicked Randomness from #minecrafthelp (Reason: andomness :Please keep it civil.)
#2532 [18:09] <Kanegasi> keep your java at 1.6. there is known issues with 1.7
#2533 [18:09] <LvcianX> appears a file in my desktop
#2534 [18:09] <LvcianX> called: hs_err_pid3980
#2535 [18:10] <Kealper> LvcianX: good, open that in Notepad and right click > Select All, then right click > COpy
#2536 [18:10] <Kealper> Copy*
#2537 [18:10] <Kealper> LvcianX: after that, go to http://pastebin.com and paste it in there, submit it, then give us the URL in here
#2538 [18:10] <scarelientje> kealper: it sais can't connect to minecraft.net
#2539 [18:10] <rackomint> YO THANK YOU MAN!
#2540 [18:10] <lutzee> Welcome portlane!
#2541 [18:10] <rackomint> IT WORKSª
#2542 [18:11] <rackomint> !
#2543 [18:11] <rackomint> I LOVE YOU GUYS
#2544 [18:11] <rackomint> HAHA
#2545 [18:11] <rackomint> THANKS
#2546 [18:11] <rackomint> BYE
#2547 [18:11] <Kealper> scarelientje: is there any antivirus software on his computer?
#2548 [18:11] * Kealper waves to rackomint
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#2549 [18:11] <LvcianX> http://pastebin.com/bx0wg1CT
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#2551 [18:12] <scarelientje> kealper: yes i think so
#2552 [18:12] <Kealper> scarelientje: you might have to allow java.exe in the antivirus software's internet security section
#2553 [18:13] <LvcianX> Did you see my URL?
#2554 [18:13] <Kealper> LvcianX: yes, looking at it now
#2555 [18:13] <LvcianX> ok
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#2557 [18:15] <scarelientje> kealper: he sais he has already done that?
#2558 [18:16] <Kealper> scarelientje: hmm... have him try playing through the browser, at http://www.minecraft.net/play
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#2560 [18:17] <Kealper> LvcianX: hmm..
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#2562 [18:18] <Kealper> LvcianX: no idea what is causing that crash, but it's definitely the bad kind of crash
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#2564 [18:18] <Kealper> well, i can see what's causing the crash, i just don't know why it's crashing
#2565 [18:19] <LvcianX> Then, what can I do to solve this?
#2566 [18:19] <LvcianX> Because I really want to play Minecraft
#2567 [18:19] <LvcianX> and if I'm not going to be able to play it never, I'd like to have my money back
#2568 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> LvcianX: you're running 32-bit Java on a 64-bit machine
#2569 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> get the 64-bit release of Java 1.6
#2570 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.6
#2571 [18:20] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2572 [18:20] <Kealper> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
#2573 [18:20] <scarelientje> kealper: he can't play trough the browser he hasn't bought the game he downloaded it
#2574 [18:20] <LvcianX> nope
#2575 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: CLASSPATH=.;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\lib\
#2576 [18:20] <Kealper> scarelientje: that's his problem then
#2577 [18:20] <LvcianX> I already have the 64 bit Java
#2578 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> LvcianX: it seems to be mixed with 32-bit Java classes
#2579 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> that could cause this sort of crash
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#2581 [18:21] <LvcianX> How can I quit the 32bit Java, then??
#2582 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/javara
#2583 [18:21] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2584 [18:21] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2585 [18:21] <LvcianX> I've chechked my control panel in programs many times
#2586 [18:21] <scarelientje> kealper: all right i'll tell him
#2587 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> use that to remove _all_ Java installs, then install _only_ the 64-bit Java
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#2592 [18:29] <Kendecil> Hi
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#2594 [18:29] <Kendecil> When I try to change my skin it won't work
#2595 [18:30] <lutzee> The skin servers seem to be having problems
#2596 [18:30] <Kendecil> How?
#2597 [18:31] <Kendecil> My just randomly reseted to default now I look like a n00b >.>
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#2600 [18:32] <lutzee> Kendecil, I mean they are not working in the way they should
#2601 [18:32] <lutzee> therefore you aren't seeing your skin
#2602 [18:32] <Kendecil> Oh okay.
#2603 [18:32] <Kendecil> Thanks!
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#2615 [18:57] <premuimproblems> Hi someone close to me purchased minecraft via logging into my account and the payment has not cleared even though the payment took place about a month ago
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#2618 [18:58] <Wug> oh come on
#2619 [18:59] <Wug> how am I supposed to help if you leave after 53 SECONDS
#2620 [18:59] <Elystus> type faster wug
#2621 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Wug: quickly.
#2622 [18:59] <Elystus> Why can't you be more like voxel?
#2623 [18:59] <Wug> I'd barely even tab completed their name
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#2625 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Wug: quicklier
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#2629 [19:03] <LvcianX> Can anybody HELP ME PLEASE??
#2630 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> ?? telepathy
#2631 [19:03] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2632 [19:04] <LvcianX> I can't play to minecraft throgh the launcher
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#2634 [19:04] <LvcianX> it appears a file
#2635 [19:05] <LvcianX> called
#2636 [19:05] <LvcianX> hs_err_pid and four numbers more that change
#2637 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> can you please pastebin the contents of that file?
#2638 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#2639 [19:06] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2640 [19:06] <LvcianX> http://pastebin.com/5pksMh41
#2641 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX win/reinst
#2642 [19:08] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2643 [19:08] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2644 [19:08] <Wug> I suspect a graphics driver issue
#2645 [19:09] <Wug> LvcianX: if you try that and it doesn't work, do this too:
#2646 [19:09] <Wug> ??> LvcianX win/dxdiag
#2647 [19:09] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2648 [19:09] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2649 [19:12] <LvcianX> I didn't have .minecraft files because I had already delete them all, including the .minecraft file
#2650 [19:13] <LvcianX> So here is the link of the dxdiag
#2651 [19:13] <LvcianX> http://pastebin.com/L7DxN8xM
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#2653 [19:13] <Wug> driver is up to date... have you tried updating java
#2654 [19:13] <Wug> or reinstalling it?
#2655 [19:13] <Wug> or did you do that recently before it stopped working?
#2656 [19:13] <LvcianX> a thousand times
#2657 [19:14] <Wug> you have 64 bit windows. are you installing 64 bit java?
#2658 [19:14] <LvcianX> yes
#2659 [19:14] <Wug> when was the last time it worked?
#2660 [19:14] <Wug> or has it never worked
#2661 [19:15] <LvcianX> it has never worked
#2662 [19:15] <LvcianX> i bought the game this morning
#2663 [19:15] <LvcianX> it worked just once
#2664 [19:16] <LvcianX> but I don't know why did it worked
#2665 [19:17] <Wug> does it open at all? do you get to the login screen, but crash after logging in?
#2666 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> LvcianX win/profile
#2667 [19:17] <LvcianX> nope
#2668 [19:17] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2669 [19:17] <VoxelHead> LvcianX: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2670 [19:17] <LvcianX> I can't get to the logging screen because it's frozen, I can't click anything
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#2672 [19:17] <LvcianX> the upper part of the launcher its grey and it is all frozen
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#2675 [19:19] <Wug> dfgbfdghf
#2676 [19:19] <Wug> WHY DO THEY LEAVE
#2677 [19:19] <Wug> I dont get it
#2678 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Frozen interface followed by a complete catastrophic system failure.
#2679 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> I don't think we'll be seeing LvcianX again.
#2680 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> We don't see Critical Existance Failures often.
#2681 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> But when we do, they're on IRC.
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#2684 [19:21] <LordRonz> How long does it take to get a giftcode after purchase?
#2685 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> lol, I read that as a joke opening line to begin with.
#2686 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> LordRonz payment
#2687 [19:21] <VoxelHead> LordRonz: (payment) Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#2688 [19:21] <VoxelHead> LordRonz: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/B1N48h
#2689 [19:23] <Wug> maybe his computer HCFs
#2690 [19:23] <Wug> HCFd*
#2691 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Hydrocarbonic Flourine?
#2692 [19:24] <Wug> halt and catch fire.
#2693 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2694 [19:25] <Wug> also sometimes referred to as Self Destruct Immediate
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#2697 [19:27] <Kohle> Was Marc on at all?
#2698 [19:28] <LordRonz> I have it now, thank you very much
#2699 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> not today
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#2701 [19:29] <Gilded_Knight> so, any one know how to do a modded 1.3.1 server, is it the same as 1.2.5 and before or has it changed?
#2702 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> same as before, just use updated mods.
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#2704 [19:29] <Gilded_Knight> i'm just so worried something is gonna be bad :P
#2705 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> of course it'll be bad; mods are terrible.
#2706 [19:30] <Gilded_Knight> besides the whole mods not updateing ever thing
#2707 [19:30] <Gilded_Knight> :P i like mods there are a lot of game breaking ones
#2708 [19:31] <Gilded_Knight> but there are ones that just make things so much better
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#2711 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> The best mod is the vanilla mod.
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#2717 [19:36] <Chris> I need help running minecraft on my computer
#2718 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> care to be more specific?
#2719 [19:37] <Chris> when i click log in, it will give me an error
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#2722 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#2723 [19:38] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2724 [19:38] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
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#2729 [19:44] <Wendezzz> ......
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#2731 [19:45] <Wug> can I help you with something
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#2740 [19:51] <Chris> may i please have some help here?
#2741 [19:51] <NinjaKirby> inb4 telepathy
#2742 [19:51] <Gilded_Knight> what error you got?
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#2744 [19:52] <Chris> The screen stays on a loading screen saying "Updating Minecraft"
#2745 [19:52] <Chris> followed by "Downloading packages"
#2746 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Chris: are you running AVG antivirus by any chance?
#2747 [19:52] <Chris> and "Retriving jinput.jar"
#2748 [19:52] <Chris> Yes
#2749 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chris win/avg
#2750 [19:53] <VoxelHead> Chris: (win/avg) AVG's antivirus program is known to interfere with Minecraft's self-update process. You will have to disable AVG's LinkScanner feature for Minecraft to update itself properly.
#2751 [19:53] <Chris> Ok, thank you for the assistance
#2752 [19:53] <Gilded_Knight> that is one nice bot
#2753 [19:53] <Chris> *Thumbs Up*'
#2754 [19:53] <VoxelHead> Thanks!
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#2756 [19:54] <Gilded_Knight> XD
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#2762 [20:07] <Wug> Gilded_Knight: dopeghoti is our finest invention yet
#2763 [20:07] <Wug> it wrote voxelhead.
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#2768 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> c'est impressive, non?
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#2775 [20:24] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Quelqu'un at-il vraiment été bien même décidé d'utiliser même aller voulez faire ressembler davantage à?
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#2780 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: Ich entschuldige mich, aber ich bin nicht auf französisch sehr fließend.
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#2782 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Um fair zu sein, benutzte ich einen Übersetzer, einen lächerlichen Phrase Internet, darunter das zu sagen.
#2783 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> So it's probably completely wrong.
#2784 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> Google Translate zu bevormunden ist eine tadellos lebensfähige Wahl, wenn Sie sie benötigen. Es ist genug genau, den Punkt herüber zu erhalten, meistens.
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#2786 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> Lawdie, indeed, for as long as formal language is utilised I suppose, hehe.
#2787 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> The formal case is warranted for Random Internet People With Whom I Am Not Familiar.
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#2789 [20:36] <NinjaKirby> Mmmmmm.... (bop)
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#2792 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> \k NinjaKirby Hanson.
#2793 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Oh my. I seem to have used the wrong slash.
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#2797 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> lol, they were featured on a Space Ghost episode
#2798 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> Not to mention Tenacious D, and Metallica, not a bad guest lineup.
#2799 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> For what the show was, anyway.
#2800 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> One of these things is not in the same class as the others.
#2801 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> One of these things is not in the same class as the others.
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#2804 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> >_>
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#2807 [20:43] <Nick_Flamel> has anyone had any trouble logging onto servers?
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#2811 [20:44] <NinjaKirby> I believe you may be the first this evening to report such a trouble in the typical context
#2812 [20:45] <dsetchell> how do i fix ; Error: could not create the java virtual machine?
#2813 [20:46] <dsetchell> ok...
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#2815 [20:46] <Nick_Flamel> It says "Failure to Log in:" and then a bunch of strange characters.
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#2817 [20:47] <dsetchell> so how do i fix it?
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#2819 [20:48] <clarjon1> heyo
#2820 [20:48] <clarjon1> Just got a new laptop, trying to run Minecraft under Linux
#2821 [20:48] <clarjon1> Getting a Wrong ELF class:ELFCLASS32 error
#2822 [20:48] <clarjon1> ( Linux mint 13 64bit version )
#2823 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> clarjon1: what distro?
#2824 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> ah.. you probably need the ia32-libs (or equivleant) package
#2825 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> one moment
#2826 [20:49] <clarjon1> ah, gotcha
#2827 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> yeah, `sudo apt-get install ia32-libs` and you should be right as rain
#2828 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> be sure 'n install the native 64-bit JRE though
#2829 [20:51] <Nick_Flamel> here's the link to my error. http://imgur.com/vqOaa
#2830 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: that's certainly new. Any client- or server-side mods involved?
#2831 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Nick_Flamel rather
#2832 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> also, is that happening on all servers, or just one?
#2833 [20:51] <Nick_Flamel> optifine, thats it.
#2834 [20:51] <Nick_Flamel> all servers
#2835 [20:51] * clarjon1 fires up synaptic and grabs those
#2835 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> try running sans any mods
#2836 [20:52] <Nick_Flamel> I did that too.
#2837 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> same problem?
#2838 [20:52] <Nick_Flamel> yeah.
#2839 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> Nick_Flamel win/reinst
#2840 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2841 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2842 [20:52] <Nick_Flamel> ok, thanks
#2843 [20:52] <dsetchell> Hello
#2844 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings.
#2845 [20:53] <dsetchell> Im having an error por up every time i run minecraft, and it was working a coupple of days ago. the Error is:
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#2847 [20:54] <dsetchell> Error: could not create Java virtual machine
#2848 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> dsetchell specs
#2849 [20:54] <VoxelHead> dsetchell: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
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#2854 [20:57] <dsetchell> 1.43 GBs of RAM, OS Windows XP and i couldnt tell you the rest because i dunno how to check.
#2855 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> dsetchell win/dxdiag
#2856 [20:57] <VoxelHead> dsetchell: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2857 [20:57] <VoxelHead> dsetchell: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2859 [20:58] <Nick_Flamel> :( didn't work.
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#2862 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> Nick_Flamel win/profile
#2863 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2864 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2865 [21:01] <Nick_Flamel> ok :/
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#2868 [21:03] <dsetchell> sorry about that. when i tries saving it, my comp blue screened
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#2870 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> dsetchell: that's rather indicative that there may be a problem with your computer as a whole, sir or ma'am or other.
#2871 [21:04] <dsetchell> hello?
#2872 [21:04] <dsetchell> i dunno
#2873 [21:05] <dsetchell> my older brother just installed a new graphics card on my comp. btw im a guy
#2874 [21:06] <zen> DopeGhoti: 1.43gb or ram, looks like that could be faulty..
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#2877 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> dsetchell: It's okay, we assume everyone is a guy, unless given other causes to assume otherwise. Which has just occurred
#2878 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> dsetchell: if the drivers were not properly installed, that could cause all sorts of abberant behavior
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#2881 [21:10] <dsetchell> Look, is there any way that this can be easily fixed?
#2882 [21:10] <dsetchell> I wanna get back to building shit
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#2886 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Not without properly diagnosing why it's doing this.
#2887 [21:12] <zen> dsetchell: well, when your computer bsod'd it would have given an error report saying what was wrong, without that we can only speculate at what might help, from what you said about 1.43gb of ram that does seem like an odd number and would suggest to me you might have a problem with your ram
#2888 [21:12] <tristanridley> Greetings. Is this somewhere I can ask for help making my client run? I have read many threads and had nosuccess on my own. This is my first time trying to run it since I did a reformat, from Fedora to Ubuntu linux.
#2889 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> To me, sounds like java's corrupt, and you need to wipe java and reinstall
#2890 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> tristanridley - Indeed it is
#2891 [21:13] <tristanridley> So far I have fixed the 'black screen' problem, and reinstalled java 5 different ways. now at least I get a crash report.
#2892 [21:14] <tristanridley> should I wait for dsetchell to be done? I have great patience. :)
#2893 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Can you share that crash report with us via pastebin.com ?
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#2896 [21:16] <tristanridley> pastebin.com is cool. :) For some reason I've never used it before. http://pastebin.com/WjcfuTeG
#2897 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> could you give an output of lspci? Do you have the appropriate video drivers installed for your system?
#2898 [21:19] <tristanridley> Oh, I think I forgot that on this computer. Had almost identical problems on my roommate's windows reformat and did it on hers but not mine. Will be back when I've fixed that.
#2899 [21:20] <tristanridley> (Either for a "thanks, *facepalm*", or a "didn't work, now what?")
#2900 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> All signs point to a video driver problem.
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#2905 [21:25] <tristanridley> GreyVulpine, just out of curiosity while those download... how did you know that? I couldn't make any sense of the error report at all - and I used to know coding, lol
#2906 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:854)
#2907 [21:26] <tristanridley> is that just the only reason it would have trouble 'creating a display'?
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#2909 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Error with OpenGL, in creating a display.
#2910 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: X Error"
#2911 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Frequently points to a problem with the display drivers in minecraft/*nix
#2912 [21:28] <tristanridley> I guess I should have known that
#2913 [21:29] <tristanridley> It's really hard to get used to being on the other side of the help forum lol
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#2915 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> No worries, it's what we're here for.
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#2917 [21:30] <Nick_Flamel> I created a new user profile, and loaded MC, and when trying to connect, I got the same error.
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#2920 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Nick_Flamel - Hmm, have you tried reinstalling java? That error text looks funky.
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#2923 [21:33] <Nick_Flamel> no, I haven't yet.
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#2925 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Please try that
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#2927 [21:33] <Nick_Flamel> ok.
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#2929 [21:33] <sullman> Anyone else having problems with Java and Minecraft working together>
#2930 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#2931 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs off of java.
#2932 [21:35] <sullman> Whenever I try to play mc in browser or in the downloaded application I get a Launch4j error that says,"This application requires a Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0
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#2934 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your system doesn't have java properly installed, or the java installation is a bit corrupt
#2935 [21:36] <sullman> I click it and it sends me to a link to download it from java. i do and install it and get the error over and over again
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#2938 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Have you completely removed java before reinstalling it?
#2939 [21:36] <sullman> no
#2940 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Try that
#2941 [21:36] <sullman> so uninstall it?
#2942 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
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#2946 [21:37] <sullman> the 64 one or x86 one?
#2947 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> All java.k
#2948 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> er, all java from your system
#2949 [21:37] <sullman> ok
#2950 [21:37] <sullman> ill try i
#2951 [21:37] <sullman> t
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#2953 [21:38] <sullman> Wow i have a lot of javas installed
#2954 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> That might be why.
#2955 [21:40] <sullman> I can keep SDK right
#2956 [21:40] <sullman> 6 javas
#2957 [21:41] <sullman> lots of updates, il uninstall all of them
#2958 [21:41] <Grey> Please remove all java from your system before reinstalling it.
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#2960 [21:41] <sullman> even SDK?
#2961 [21:41] <Grey> This way, you can ensure a clean install
#2962 [21:41] <sullman> ok
#2963 [21:42] <sullman> SO I uninstall the JavaSDK too?
#2964 [21:44] <tristanridley> yes.
#2965 [21:44] <tristanridley> you can always reinstall and there is overlap between them.
#2966 [21:46] <tristanridley> Hah, a question to which I knew the answer already and my download isn't even a quarter done.
#2967 [21:48] <Grey> Welp, signing off. G'luck.
#2968 [21:48] <sullman> thanks
#2969 [21:49] <tristanridley> thanks for your help
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#2973 [21:56] <tristanridley> well it needs me to restart now so... if I don't come back many thanks for the help.
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#2976 [21:56] <Nick_Flamel> Same error...
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#2978 [21:58] <Nick_Flamel> reinstalled java.
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#2984 [22:03] <tristanridley> So I'm back. lol Anyone know what an ELF class is? going to pastebin now, but maybe I can figure out my own things if I know what an ELF class is.
#2985 [22:04] <oldtopman> An ELF is an executable file (format).
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#2990 [22:05] <tristanridley> I'm going to check and see that my system hasn't 'helpfully' reinstalled the other versions of java again
#2991 [22:06] <tristanridley> but this is what it says in terminal: http://pastebin.com/FNmdBWiH
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#2994 [22:06] <sullman> YAY mine is fixed!
#2995 [22:06] <Nick_Flamel> mine isn't.
#2996 [22:06] <tristanridley> congrats, sullman
#2997 [22:07] <oldtopman> tristanridley: How the heck are you launching minecraft?
#2998 [22:07] <tristanridley> in linux terminal
#2999 [22:07] <sullman> Thanks to everyone who helped me!
#3000 [22:07] <tristanridley> running it in the gui wasn't showing me an error.
#3001 [22:07] <oldtopman> Should be "java -Xms512M -Xmx1G -jar <minecraft.jar>"
#3002 [22:07] <oldtopman> Where <minecraft.jar> is the path to the launcher .jar file
#3003 [22:08] <tristanridley> with or without the <> ?
#3004 [22:08] <tristanridley> (not sure if they're syntax or emphasis)
#3005 [22:08] <tristanridley> lol oops ok
#3006 [22:08] <oldtopman> Syntax :P
#3007 [22:08] <oldtopman> <> means replace, [] means pick one, and () means optional.
#3008 [22:09] <tristanridley> btw
#3009 [22:09] <oldtopman> At least that was what I was taught.
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#3011 [22:09] <tristanridley> same exact error when I had run it with: java -jar minecraft.jar
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#3013 [22:10] <tristanridley> and I'm running it in my home folder, so the path is null
#3014 [22:10] <tristanridley> nope, same error. :(
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#3017 [22:11] <oldtopman> tristanridley: What does "java -version" say?
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#3019 [22:11] <claws> hello?
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#3021 [22:11] <tristanridley> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b06)
#3022 [22:12] <oldtopman> Hello claws!
#3023 [22:12] <tristanridley> (there are other lines but that's the detailed one)
#3024 [22:12] <oldtopman> tristanridley: You might try installing java 1.6, since 1.7 is not fully functional within minecraft.
#3025 [22:12] <claws> um i was wondering if any one else has a problem with minecraft starting with a blackscreen after loading and logging in?
#3026 [22:12] <tristanridley> ah
#3027 [22:12] <tristanridley> *le sigh* I went and specifically got this one too
#3028 [22:12] <tristanridley> lol
#3029 [22:12] <oldtopman> claws: Do you have any mods?
#3030 [22:13] <claws> i used the zombie fly mod once
#3031 [22:13] <oldtopman> tristanridley: Aww. Make sure you uninstall all the java things too when you do that.
#3032 [22:13] <oldtopman> ??> claws force/update
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#3034 [22:13] <claws> i cant
#3035 [22:13] <tristanridley> took FOREVER to fight off ubuntu's desire to run everything through the open source alternative java
#3036 [22:13] <claws> it lets me log in then black
#3037 [22:14] <oldtopman> tristanridley: Yes, you have to get the closed source 1.6.
#3038 [22:14] <claws> this also happens when i tried to run minecraft from the browser.
#3039 [22:14] <oldtopman> And double check to make sure you get the right architecture.
#3040 [22:14] <oldtopman> ??> claws win/reinst/bat
#3041 [22:14] <VoxelHead> claws: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3042 [22:14] <VoxelHead> claws: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#3043 [22:15] <claws> ah ty for that link
#3044 [22:16] <claws> but i also have questions about creating a server specificaly about uploading it to the router
#3045 [22:16] <claws> if thats ok to ask here
#3046 [22:16] <tristanridley> ok, by 1.6 they mean 6, yes?
#3047 [22:16] <oldtopman> tristanridley: Yes.
#3048 [22:17] <tristanridley> thx.
#3049 [22:17] <oldtopman> claws: You're making a server and uploading it into a router?
#3050 [22:17] <claws> idk im trying to follow the wiki
#3051 [22:17] <oldtopman> I think you have a bit more reading to do :)
#3052 [22:17] <claws> like i made the server
#3053 [22:17] <claws> i just have dificulty with putting it online.
#3054 [22:18] <claws> i meant port fowarding.
#3055 [22:18] <oldtopman> portforward.com
#3056 [22:18] <oldtopman> They are the place to go for port forwarding things.
#3057 [22:19] <oldtopman> Minecraft needs port 25565 on TCP and UDP opened.
#3058 [22:19] <claws> kk im just confused on the screen i see
#3059 [22:19] <claws> it comes up asking for a user and a pass.
#3060 [22:19] <claws> is this the pass set on my router or something else
#3061 [22:21] <tristanridley> Just in case you ever get anyone else coming for help on a Ubuntu machine... Ubuntu is very fond of re-installing OpenJDK. Suddenly (since the start of trying to uninstall JRE1.7) I have openJDK 6 installed.
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#3063 [22:22] <tristanridley> get them to check their package manager's recent activity and all the sudden it will make sense.
#3064 [22:22] <oldtopman> tristanridley: I let it install whatever it wants as long as the command "java" points to the one I want.
#3065 [22:22] <oldtopman> But that's why I hate Ubuntu and don't use it, so ymmv
#3066 [22:23] <tristanridley> Well, Fedora decided to toss customization and speed of use out the window, so I'm trying Ubuntu for a while
#3067 [22:24] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: Dunno if you'll see this, but I found a fix for my issue
#3068 [22:24] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: I had to create a bash script to export the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to point to openjdk's jre/lib/amd64 directory
#3069 [22:25] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: After that, no issues, running at a nice smooth 40fps
#3070 [22:25] <claws> ty oldman and vox
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#3072 [22:26] <tristanridley> woot! guess what? OpenJDK 6 works great.
#3073 [22:27] <oldtopman> Well, sometimes we get lucky.
#3074 [22:27] <tristanridley> I ran it just 'cause it was there and I've failed a hundred tiems so what's one more
#3075 [22:27] <oldtopman> Go forth and craft!
#3076 [22:27] <tristanridley> *giant grin*
#3077 [22:27] <tristanridley> many thanks, and again to GreyVulpine who helped me notice that I had forgotten to install my new graphics card drivers
#3078 [22:27] <oldtopman> tristanridley: Poke me if you ever need a server :)
#3079 [22:27] <tristanridley> No wonder none of my games looked better with the new card...
#3080 [22:28] <tristanridley> lol Actually I apparently still have one
#3081 [22:28] <oldtopman> Hey, the thank yous make it all worth while, so I send you a heartfelt "You're welcome" on behalf of both of us.
#3082 [22:28] <tristanridley> a friend is on it
#3083 [22:28] <tristanridley> and apparently I'm like... grandfathered in to a major city now
#3084 [22:28] <tristanridley> I accidentally founded it.
#3085 [22:28] <tristanridley> cheers, all
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#3087 [22:29] <oldtopman> heh
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#3098 [22:57] <TheNytangel> Does anyone know enough redstone to answer a question about it?
#3099 [23:00] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: I might.
#3100 [23:00] <TheNytangel> Ok
#3101 [23:00] <TheNytangel> Let me try and word this in a way you can understand
#3102 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> potentially
#3103 [23:01] <TheNytangel> Gah
#3104 [23:01] <TheNytangel> This is confusing
#3105 [23:02] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Do you want to show me?
#3106 [23:02] <TheNytangel> Do you have Tekkit?
#3107 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> no, never tekkit :)
#3108 [23:02] <TheNytangel> I'm playing on someone's server right now
#3109 [23:02] * oldtopman doesn't have tekkit
#3109 [23:02] <TheNytangel> Well, will you get tekkit? I'm having trouble finding words for it
#3110 [23:02] <oldtopman> Can you screenshot, or make a testcase with regular rs?
#3111 [23:03] <oldtopman> TheNytangel^
#3112 [23:03] <TheNytangel> Hold on a hot second
#3113 [23:03] <oldtopman> sure
#3114 [23:03] * oldtopman cues up some elevator music
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#3115 [23:04] <TheNytangel> I think I just figured it out
#3116 [23:04] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Win!
#3117 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> *plays* the girl from Ipanema
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#3120 [23:14] <mark> hi
#3121 [23:14] <mark> i have minecraft problem
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#3123 [23:15] <Guest37288> hello
#3124 [23:15] <Guest37288> is anyone there
#3125 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> yep
#3126 [23:15] <Guest37288> ok
#3127 [23:15] <clarjon1> Don't ask to ask, Just ask!
#3128 [23:15] <Guest37288> i tried loading nodus into minecraft
#3129 [23:15] <Guest37288> i tried loading nodus into minecraft
#3130 [23:15] <Guest37288> and i deleted my minecraft.jar
#3131 [23:15] <Guest37288> now minecraft wont start up
#3132 [23:15] <oldtopman> ??> Guest37288 force/update
#3133 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> what on earth is nodus?
#3134 [23:16] <Guest37288> its a client
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#3136 [23:16] <puffrfish> DiskDaemon: griefing client
#3137 [23:16] <Guest37288> but i cant find my minecraft folder
#3138 [23:16] <Guest37288> yes
#3139 [23:17] <Guest37288> im on a mac
#3140 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> It sounds like a killban event might be on the horizon then :)
#3141 [23:17] <Guest37288> ? what
#3142 [23:17] <Guest37288> so can u please helo me
#3143 [23:17] <Guest37288> help me
#3144 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> No, we don't help with mods here
#3145 [23:18] <Guest37288> i dont need help with a mod
#3146 [23:18] <Guest37288> i need help finding a minecraft folder
#3147 [23:18] <Guest37288> please
#3148 [23:18] <Wug> so you can install your griefing client?
#3149 [23:18] <Wug> I think not.
#3150 [23:19] <Guest37288> no
#3151 [23:19] <Guest37288> can someone please help me
#3152 [23:19] <Wug> you lost me at nodus.
#3153 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> Guest37288: We only help with vanilla minecraft in this channel
#3154 [23:20] <oldtopman> ??> Guest37288 mods
#3155 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Guest37288: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
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#3157 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Guest37288: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#3158 [23:20] <Guest37288> whats vannila minecraft
#3159 [23:20] <Guest37288> so what channel do i go to
#3160 [23:20] <Wug> minecraft sans griefing clients.
#3161 [23:20] <Guest37288> how do i go there
#3162 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> Guest37288: Try www.ubers.org
#3163 [23:21] <Guest37288> ok one sec
#3164 [23:21] <Wug> go find instructions to install your griefing clients on the minecraft forum
#3165 [23:21] <Wug> help and support section.
#3166 [23:21] <Guest37288> is it live chat
#3167 [23:21] <Guest37288> is it live chat
#3168 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> I am not instructing you on the proper care and use of your web browser
#3169 [23:21] * oldtopman reads the rules
#3169 [23:22] <Guest37288> i cant find anything
#3170 [23:22] <Guest37288> FML
#3171 [23:22] <oldtopman> Guest37288: How old are you?
#3172 [23:22] <Wug> FYL indeed.
#3173 [23:23] * oldtopman snaps fingers
#3173 [23:23] <oldtopman> The rules say "nothing illegal".
#3174 [23:23] <oldtopman> /kick guestxxxxx CIPA says no
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#3177 [23:26] <goldprawn> when i try to run minecraft i get the java virtual machine error how do i fix it?
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#3179 [23:32] <ElevatorCheese> I just bought Minecraft for my PC. I downloaded it and logged in. It goes right to a black screen or either says Done loading and nothing happens.
#3180 [23:34] <oldtopman> ElevatorCheese: Do you have AVG or any other antivirus installed?
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#3182 [23:35] <ElevatorCheese> Yes. Me and my friend downloaded it a week ago and played on his account and everything was fine
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