#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-19
#1 [00:01] <vaeuel> I increased the lighting double fold. I now have a block placed third up from the ground with a torch on each side and the every third block in each direct I have set up the same
#2 [00:02] * Fishfish0001 is now known as :Fishfish0001|afk
#3 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> well, I wish I knew more about the pocket edition
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#5 [00:04] <nnick526> still cant update it
#6 [00:04] <vaeuel> lol it seems a little behind from the PC version, for example no chests no buckets as far as I can tell no underground caverns, no lava, no sun or moon, only zombies skelles and spidies.It seems most of these differences are to try and keep it simple so the game can be rendered properly by a phone
#7 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> nnick526: Let's try to get a crash report for when it fails to update http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#8 [00:05] <nnick526> i already gave u one on paste bin
#9 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> nnick526: That was for when you were trying to run Minecraft. You have since reinstalled, and have completely different symptoms where you can't even update the game.
#10 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> A different situation means that different information is required'
#11 [00:07] <nnick526> i cant update and i cant skip the update it just freezes it
#12 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> nnick526: Thus the need for more information on the issue
#13 [00:08] <nnick526> but i dont get a crash report when it freezes
#14 [00:08] <nnick526> i login and it says update yes or no?
#15 [00:08] <nnick526> i say yes: it gets to downloadig packages it freezes
#16 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> nnick526: That's why the web page that I linked you to provides information on how to get more information
#17 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> nnick526: That still sounds to me like you have something blocking what is attempting to be downloaded
#18 [00:10] <nnick526> why would it stop working now then?
#19 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out what's causing the problem, and then we'll know why, won't we
#20 [00:10] <Guest_> doogle is done
#21 [00:11] <Doogel> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#22 [00:11] <Guest_> all good
#23 [00:11] <Guest_> one thing though
#24 [00:11] <Guest_> that port your using
#25 [00:11] <Guest_> is well known
#26 [00:11] <Guest_> its a little unsafe
#27 [00:11] <Guest_> you can change the port in server.properties
#28 [00:11] <Guest_> and then change the numbers in your modem
#29 [00:11] <Doogel> Haha yeah I figured that out once when my friend was hacking servers
#30 [00:11] <Guest_> yeah
#31 [00:11] <Guest_> thats the default one your using
#32 [00:11] <Doogel> Well thank you!
#33 [00:11] <Guest_> anyway
#34 [00:12] <Doogel> Haha come on anytime if you want :D
#35 [00:12] <Guest_> doogle here can vouch for me that i know what i'm doing
#36 [00:12] <Doogel> yes!!
#37 [00:12] <Guest_> but i cant get my server to work!
#38 [00:12] <Doogel> Haha why
#39 [00:12] <Guest_> i've fowarded ports
#40 [00:12] <Guest_> opened firewalls etc
#41 [00:12] <Guest_> cant find my server
#42 [00:12] <Guest_> anyone know what i can do to fix this?
#43 [00:13] <Doogel> Haha the guy who just made my server for me is having server troubles xD
#44 [00:13] <vaeuel> sorry dude I dont even know how to join a multiplayer game
#45 [00:13] <Guest_> aww man
#46 [00:13] <Guest_> i was hoping karma would come my way haha
#47 [00:13] <Guest_> hey doogel
#48 [00:13] <Guest_> one more thing man
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#50 [00:13] <Guest_> if you turn your modem off
#51 [00:14] <Guest_> or it even happens randomly
#52 [00:14] <Guest_> your ip address will change from time to time
#53 [00:14] <nnick526> none of them work
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#55 [00:14] <Guest_> you will need to correct the settings in your router
#56 [00:14] <Guest_> occasionally
#57 [00:14] * Smanly|Away is now known as :Smanly
#58 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> dammit - I was hopying to find out which security software he uses
#59 [00:15] <Doogel> Yeah?
#60 [00:15] <Guest_> i pm'd you man
#61 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest_ dont/pm
#62 [00:15] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#63 [00:16] <Guest_> sorry
#64 [00:16] <Guest_> i just want to change my nick
#65 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: You use /nick newNickName to change your nickname
#66 [00:16] * Guest_ is now known as :camando
#67 [00:16] <camando> thanks
#68 [00:16] <camando> so doogle
#69 [00:16] <camando> you should pm me your ip
#70 [00:16] <camando> i'll play for a bit
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#72 [00:17] <camando> hey sorry voxel head
#73 [00:18] <camando> i did most of my assistance remotly
#74 [00:18] <camando> Could anybody help me with my issue
#75 [00:19] <camando> i can't connect to my minecraft server
#76 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> ?? bot
#77 [00:19] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#78 [00:19] <Smanly> woah!!
#79 [00:19] <Smanly> tht is rly fst!
#80 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Where is your server? On the same machine?
#81 [00:19] <camando> yeah
#82 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Use 127.0.0.1
#83 [00:19] <camando> tried connecting to that
#84 [00:19] <camando> and localhost
#85 [00:19] <camando> nothing
#86 [00:19] <camando> my ports are open
#87 [00:20] <camando> firewalls are gone
#88 [00:20] <camando> antivirus stopped
#89 [00:20] <camando> i'm lost
#90 [00:20] <camando> versions match aswell
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#92 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> ports and firewalls aren't involved when a local connection is performed
#93 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> What does the server say when you start it up?
#94 [00:21] <camando> sorry for spam
#95 [00:21] <camando> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.3.2 [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Default game type: SURVIVAL [INFO] Generating keypair [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:2272 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Preparing start region for level 0 [INFO] Preparing spawn area: 85% [INFO] Done (1.223s)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#96 [00:21] <camando> its fine
#97 [00:21] <camando> no errrors
#98 [00:21] <camando> i havnet defined an ip
#99 [00:21] <Smanly> Port
#100 [00:21] <camando> so it should be local
#101 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> camando pastebin
#102 [00:21] <VoxelHead> camando: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#103 [00:21] <Smanly> localhost:2272
#104 [00:21] <Smanly> ^try that
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#106 [00:21] <Smanly> You aren't using the default port. idk why.
#107 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Does the server say anything when you attempt to connect to it?
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#109 [00:21] <camando> http://pastebin.com/zJ5FEJHX
#110 [00:22] <camando> sorry
#111 [00:22] <camando> no
#112 [00:22] <camando> just the usual time out
#113 [00:22] <camando> and there is no activity on the server
#114 [00:22] <Smanly> camando: Read what I said.
#115 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> Delete your server.properties file, and let the server create a new one
#116 [00:22] <camando> ok
#117 [00:22] <camando> lol
#118 [00:22] <camando> smanly
#119 [00:22] <camando> i love you
#120 [00:23] <Smanly> <3 k
#121 [00:23] <camando> i have tried adding the port b4
#122 [00:23] <camando> but not to local host
#123 [00:23] <Smanly> Change the port to 25565
#124 [00:23] <camando> nah man
#125 [00:23] <Smanly> Then you dont need a port.
#126 [00:23] <Smanly> Oh.
#127 [00:23] <Smanly> k
#128 [00:23] <camando> :D
#129 [00:23] <Smanly> Why?
#130 [00:23] <camando> i'm paranoid
#131 [00:23] <Smanly> What?
#132 [00:23] <camando> i'm only joiking
#133 [00:23] <camando> i'm using that port for something else
#134 [00:24] <Smanly> Like what?
#135 [00:24] <camando> Terraria :/
#136 [00:24] <Smanly> Thats terrarias default port aswell?
#137 [00:24] <camando> nope
#138 [00:24] <Smanly> Wat...
#139 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> camando: You're running both servers at the same time?
#140 [00:24] <Smanly> Why would you.
#141 [00:24] <camando> it was on my clipboard when i set it up
#142 [00:24] <camando> no the terraria server is down
#143 [00:24] <Smanly> Well, thats silly, camando.
#144 [00:25] <camando> lol
#145 [00:25] <camando> I would call it lazy
#146 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> The default terraria port is 7777
#147 [00:25] <Smanly> Change both ports then.
#148 [00:25] <Smanly> TIL Lazy=straying fomr default pors
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#150 [00:25] <Smanly> ports*
#151 [00:25] <camando> i blame a particular green plant that i may enjoy
#152 [00:26] <camando> hence the lazyness
#153 [00:26] <Smanly> Aloe? :D
#154 [00:26] <camando> haha
#155 [00:26] <Bioshock2026> Why did Minecraft fail to launch (4): null
#156 [00:26] <Smanly> Bioshock2026: Pastbin the entire error.
#157 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> no, oregano :)
#158 [00:27] <Smanly> Lol
#159 [00:27] <Bioshock2026> how?
#160 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Bioshock2026: Are you using avira or mcafee?
#161 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Bioshock2026: That null error is known to be caused by either of those security software programs
#162 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#163 [00:28] <Bioshock2026> well im using Java but im pretty sure it is linked with mcafee
#164 [00:28] <Bioshock2026> I didnt accept to the mcafee sirvices
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#167 [00:30] <camando> TY ALL, I"M GOING TO PLAY MA Server
#168 [00:30] <Bioshock2026> hello?
#169 [00:30] <Bioshock2026> any responce?
#170 [00:31] <Bioshock2026> response
#171 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> Bioshock2026: You were saying before that you use mcafee?
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#173 [00:34] <Bioshock2026> no I have java though
#174 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> okay - temporarily disable your antivirus program, and attempt to run Minecraft again
#175 [00:35] <Bioshock2026> isnt that unsafe for the computer
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#176 [00:36] <Orc> I don't think minecraft will give you a virus.
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#178 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> installing anything is inherently unsafe
#179 [00:36] * DiskDaemon heads off
#179 [00:37] <Bioshock2026> well its ok for my computer as long as Norton says the website is ok
#180 [00:38] <Bioshock2026> but turning off my security might ruin it since its new
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#182 [00:41] <Orc> I don't think new computers are anymore susceptible to viruses just because it is new.
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#184 [00:41] <Bioshock2026> Well I forgot to tell you that it failed in browser
#185 [00:42] <Bioshock2026> But it wont load in download
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#187 [00:42] <Bioshock2026> it will say done downloading but wont do anything
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#190 [00:45] <Orc> That issue is outside of my knowledge, sorry.
#191 [00:45] <Bioshock2026> Oh, well thanks any way.
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#205 [01:11] <meick88> hello?
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#253 [04:54] <MarylandITGuy> Hello. I created a server a few weeks ago and I was wondering, I had generate-structures off, and I'm trying to find a stronghold to create a portal to the end for the dragon. I turned it on, but I'm not sure if it's working. Will I have to restart my world and lose all of my work?
#254 [04:55] <Calinou> if you turn it on, structures will only appear in newly generated terrain
#255 [04:56] <MarylandITGuy> I'm sorry I'm pretty new to this, how do I get new terrain to generate?
#256 [04:56] <Necrodoom> go to where terrain hasnt generated yet
#257 [04:57] <Andrio> Go to somewhere you haven't explored yet.
#258 [04:57] <MarylandITGuy> Ah, sweet. Thanks.
#259 [04:57] <MarylandITGuy> Are strongholds only in Over world or do they exist in the Nether as well?
#260 [04:58] <Andrio> No, they're only in the overworld.
#261 [04:58] <Andrio> But there are fortresses in the Nether.
#262 [04:58] <MarylandITGuy> Do they have the end portals?
#263 [04:58] <Andrio> No
#264 [04:58] <Andrio> They have Blaze spawners and nether wart.
#265 [04:58] <Andrio> and nether brick.
#266 [04:59] <MarylandITGuy> that's what I'm trying to find, I've been searching for days.
#267 [05:00] <MarylandITGuy> I've been spending weeks mining diamond and leveling up for enchantments to fight the dragon just to find out I might not be able to get the portal. Lol.
#268 [05:00] <Andrio> well, you can make a portal with /give, if you're ok with cheating.
#269 [05:01] <MarylandITGuy> blah, I specifically did all the work manually to not cheat. haha.
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#271 [05:05] <Necrodoom> only 3 strongholds are generates per world, right?
#272 [05:05] <Necrodoom> generated*
#273 [05:05] <MarylandITGuy> Yeah that's what it says on the wiki.
#274 [05:06] <MarylandITGuy> Says they're underground, not sure how deep they are. I've been searching random mines for days. No idea if it will spawn since I had structures off initially.
#275 [05:06] <Necrodoom> hopefully your strongholds didnt get overwrited
#276 [05:06] <Necrodoom> you can throw eye of ender
#277 [05:06] <Andrio> MarylandITGuy, do you know how to use an Eye of Ender?
#278 [05:06] <Necrodoom> will direct you to the nearest stronghold
#279 [05:06] <Andrio> ^
#280 [05:07] <MarylandITGuy> No I haven't used one yet, I have the ender perls though
#281 [05:07] <MarylandITGuy> pearls*
#282 [05:07] <Andrio> well, you need to battle Blazes to make them
#283 [05:08] <Andrio> but they help a lot finding a stronghold.
#284 [05:10] <MarylandITGuy> just read all about it, sounds good, will give me a definite answer if it will generate or not.
#285 [05:11] <MarylandITGuy> says that it will guide me to the place where it would have been if I didnt have generate structures on, lol.
#286 [05:11] <MarylandITGuy> thanks again.
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#288 [05:17] <MarylandITGuy> One more thing, is there a way to manually spawn a stronghold/npc village since I had generate-structures off?
#289 [05:18] <Calinou> no
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#295 [05:53] <MarylandITGuy> I might have no other choice than to use the /give command to get to the dragon. =(
#296 [05:54] <MarylandITGuy> The eye led me to where one would have been but generate-structures was turned off.
#297 [05:54] <MarylandITGuy> Place I already explored.
#298 [05:55] <Necrodoom> bad luck
#299 [05:55] <Necrodoom> so 2 possible structures left
#300 [06:00] <MarylandITGuy> Haha, yeah.
#301 [06:00] <MarylandITGuy> The thing is I already traveled pretty much everywhere in boats.
#302 [06:01] <MarylandITGuy> I'm thinking there's a good chance all the terrain spots have been built for stronghold spots.
#303 [06:04] <MarylandITGuy> oh well not the end of the world, I can use the give command for this one thing or redo it on a harder difficulty
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#306 [06:14] <Morrolan> MarylandITGuy - Just grab MCEdit and remove the chunks where those strongholds are supposed to be, then turn on generate structures and explore that area again.
#307 [06:18] <MarylandITGuy> That's a really good idea. Thanks.
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#309 [06:18] <MarylandITGuy> is there a way to disable the /give command? I don't like it being an option.
#310 [06:19] <MarylandITGuy> Ive been trying to figure it out on the internet but there's only answers for Hey0 servers, mine is just regular default.
#311 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Non-ops do not have access to /give
#312 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> For more granular control over commands, you'll need to look into modified server binaries like bukkit
#313 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> There are many many permission plugins for bukkit that can give you that capability
#314 [06:21] <MarylandITGuy> Sweet, I will look into it, thanks.
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#321 [06:47] <_DGouveia_> Hi
#322 [06:49] <_DGouveia_> i need help
#323 [06:49] <xales> ??> _DGouveia_ ask
#324 [06:49] <VoxelHead> _DGouveia_: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#325 [06:49] <VoxelHead> _DGouveia_: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#326 [06:49] <_DGouveia_> ok sorry
#327 [06:49] <_DGouveia_> I yesterday
#328 [06:49] <_DGouveia_> I bought minecraft by credit card and said that the purchase was successful but it keeps saying that my account is not premimium
#329 [06:50] <xales> Did you get an email confirming the transaction?
#330 [06:50] <_DGouveia_> no
#331 [06:50] <_DGouveia_> not received any email
#332 [06:51] <xales> Please see: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#333 [06:51] <_DGouveia_> but I have a print of purchase
#334 [06:52] <xales> "If after a few hours you have only received a 32 character order number, and not a transaction ID from Paypal or Moneybookers, it is unlikely that the transaction was successful."
#335 [06:52] <xales> Please double check your bank account to verify if you were charged.
#336 [06:53] <_DGouveia_> mean I have to try to buy again?
#337 [06:53] <xales> "Since you will not be able to purchase a premium account twice on the same username, if you were not charged, you may wish to try your purchase again"
#338 [06:55] <_DGouveia_> ok I'll try again
#339 [06:55] <_DGouveia_> best buy is for this minecraft account or gift code?
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#341 [06:56] <xales> Not a gift code.
#342 [06:56] <_DGouveia_> ok
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#345 [06:58] <_DGouveia_> I just can not buy again
#346 [06:58] <_DGouveia_> "You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions."
#347 [06:59] <xales> Then you will have to wait 24 hours.
#348 [06:59] <xales> Or use a different card.
#349 [07:01] <_DGouveia_> But not wanting to say that it already bought minecraft?
#350 [07:03] <_DGouveia_> ???
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#354 [07:05] <xales> What?
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#356 [07:06] <_DGouveia_> But not wanting to say that it already bought minecraft?
#357 [07:07] <xales> The card would not be locked out if the transaction was successful.
#358 [07:07] <xales> If PayPal is available, try using it.
#359 [07:08] <_DGouveia_> but how do I know if money no longer spent?
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#361 [07:09] <xales> You would have to contact your bank.
#362 [07:09] <_DGouveia_> ....
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#364 [07:16] * tyteen4a03 waves
#364 [07:22] <ben_> is minecraft modding a thing considered okay by mojang?
#365 [07:22] <macer1> ben_: yes
#366 [07:22] <macer1> or depends
#367 [07:23] <ben_> I am not talking about cracking the game and distributing it for free
#368 [07:23] <Morrolan> If you want to sell it, you might have to redistribute the modified code with a diff patch. But as long as you provide it for free you shouldn't worry much.
#369 [07:23] <Morrolan> (And if you make it for yourself only, none will mind anyway)
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#371 [07:24] <Arctic> Hello
#372 [07:26] <ben_> I see
#373 [07:26] <Arctic> I guess I'll ask now; I've bought the game and managed the set up a server so that me and a friend can play. We found that out that he couldn't do anything i.e. chop wood, mine etc. To cicumvent this, I made him OP but that also allows him to use commands (Which I don't really mind). My question is, is there a way to let him play the game on my server but disallow him from using commands?
#374 [07:26] <Morrolan> Yes, tell him not to build near spawn.
#375 [07:26] <Necrodoom> Arctic: move away from spawn
#376 [07:27] <Morrolan> There's a 32 by 32 area (or so) around spawn which non-ops can't modify.
#377 [07:27] <Arctic> Ahh
#378 [07:27] <Arctic> I see
#379 [07:27] <Arctic> is that 32 blocks?
#380 [07:27] <Morrolan> I don't know the exact area.
#381 [07:27] <Morrolan> But it's somewhere between 10 and 50 blocks ;D
#382 [07:27] <Arctic> Alright, thanks for the info :)
#383 [07:28] <ben_> it's about 30x30
#384 [07:28] <ben_> probably 32x32
#385 [07:28] <Morrolan> "A 33x33 block area centered at the default spawn point, and spanning the full height of the map, is "protected"." (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn#Multiplayer)
#386 [07:28] <Morrolan> ben_ - Heh, nice guess of yours. :)
#387 [07:28] <ben_> you said it first ;p
#388 [07:28] <Arctic> does this include z axis?
#389 [07:28] <Morrolan> It's the full height.
#390 [07:29] <Arctic> alright
#391 [07:29] <Morrolan> From the very bottom to the highest mountains. :D
#392 [07:29] <ben_> z is actually what most people would call y in other game worlds
#393 [07:29] <ben_> it's x,z and y for height
#394 [07:29] <Arctic> I always thought that z only exist in 3d
#395 [07:29] <Arctic> :/
#396 [07:29] <ben_> this game is 3d
#397 [07:29] <Arctic> But then again, I don't know much at all...
#398 [07:29] <Morrolan> Ah, yea, Minecraft has its axis named different than most other games.
#399 [07:30] <ben_> it actually makes more sense to call it x,z and y for height
#400 [07:30] <ben_> because z is used for depth in math
#401 [07:30] <Arctic> how do i deop someone? ..<
#402 [07:30] <Morrolan> "deop <player>"
#403 [07:30] <Arctic> nvm
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#417 [07:57] <Humbi_Bumbi> How much i must waiting for my skin ?
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#419 [07:58] <Humbi_Bumbi> How much i must waiting for my skin ?
#420 [07:58] <1AVAAKUE6> Humbi_Bumbi: ...what?
#421 [07:58] <Humbi_Bumbi> Skin system
#422 [07:58] <1AVAAKUE6> what about it
#423 [07:58] <Humbi_Bumbi> i add skin and i havent got this
#424 [07:59] <Boreeas> Humbi_Bumbi: There are currently issues with in-game skins
#425 [07:59] <Boreeas> Try again tomorrow
#426 [07:59] <Humbi_Bumbi> it continues
#427 [07:59] <Humbi_Bumbi> at 5 days
#428 [08:00] <Boreeas> It has been having issues for quite some time now
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#437 [08:05] <pig08> i cant break blocks at the moment? need help
#438 [08:05] <1AVAAKUE6> pig08: hold the mouse button
#439 [08:06] <1AVAAKUE6> its not instant like it was in classic
#440 [08:06] <pig08> k will try again tks
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#447 [08:26] <MIA> Hi, I try to run a minecraft server and always get a "lost connection" error message when someone is trying to connect.
#448 [08:27] <Andrio> Are they running the latest version of Minecraft?
#449 [08:27] <MIA> I guess I am, how can I check?
#450 [08:28] <Andrio> Are they running the latest version of Minecraft?
#451 [08:28] <Andrio> not necessarily you, the people who try and join.
#452 [08:28] <Andrio> It'll say in the console somewhere what version it is.
#453 [08:28] <Andrio> 'Starting Minecraft server version <whatever>'
#454 [08:28] <MIA> I am running both client and server
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#457 [08:31] <MIA> My client is 1.3.2 and the server is 1.5_02
#458 [08:31] <tyteen4a03> MIA: The server is severly outdated
#459 [08:32] <tyteen4a03> MIA: Your server is running Beta 1.5 while the client version is Release 1.3.2
#460 [08:32] <MIA> That explains it
#461 [08:32] <MIA> THX a lot, I' try to get the new one
#462 [08:37] <Andrio> why are you still on Beta 1.5? o_o
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#465 [08:40] <MIA> I didn't minecraft for quite some time and never servered before
#466 [08:40] <tyteen4a03> Andrio: we won't know, my oldest map is still in indev format
#467 [08:40] <MIA> but its possibly working now
#468 [08:43] <MIA> I can confirm it works from my LAN, thx again
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#470 [08:45] <MIA> btw, what is a good Xmx value? Is 25000M good?
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#474 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> 384mb is plenty enough for normal Minecraft
#475 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> When it comes to Minecraft memory, less is better. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/#cl
#476 [08:50] <MIA> but what is it able to more or less efficiently handle?
#477 [08:50] <tyteen4a03> MIA: In case you haven't noticed, it's sarcasm
#478 [08:50] <PhoneLemons> Except on really developted maps I'd belive...
#479 [08:50] <DiskDaemon> That depends
#480 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> heh
#481 [08:51] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: and congrats on the twirly @
#482 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> for a server, it all depends
#483 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> Read the content at the link I provided. I'm going to sleep. Details are in there.
#484 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> I got a twirly? Neat! :)
#485 [08:51] <tyteen4a03> 1AVAAKUE6: your nick is very interesting
#486 [08:52] <PhoneLemons> Nighty night ;)
#487 [08:52] <1AVAAKUE6> tyteen4a03: happens
#488 [08:52] <tyteen4a03> 1AVAAKUE6: I like this nick better than your mibbit alternative
#489 [08:52] * DiskDaemon gives GreyVulpine a virtual chocolate fish in appreciation
#489 [08:52] <1AVAAKUE6> tyteen4a03: its not something I can ust /nick to
#490 [08:53] <1AVAAKUE6> it requires science. and a relativist wug collision
#491 [08:53] * GreyVulpine stashes said cookie
#491 [08:53] <1AVAAKUE6> relativistic*
#492 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> er.... Fish
#493 [08:53] <1AVAAKUE6> how did we go from chocolate fish to cookie lol
#494 [08:53] <1AVAAKUE6> also eew
#495 [08:53] <tyteen4a03> 1AVAAKUE6: I will pretend I understood that
#496 [08:53] <PhoneLemons> Lol
#497 [08:53] <1AVAAKUE6> tyteen4a03: ITS SCIENCE!@!$#!#%#
#498 [08:53] <tyteen4a03> I KNOW! %@!%
#499 [08:54] * GreyVulpine hasn't actually gotten out of bed yet
#499 [08:54] <1AVAAKUE6> phones are great
#500 [08:54] <PhoneLemons> I don't actualy have a cell phone lol...
#501 [08:54] <1AVAAKUE6> didnt you have to be at work at like 4:00am
#502 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm!
#503 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> it's sunday.
#504 [08:54] <1AVAAKUE6> that hasnt stopped them before
#505 [08:54] <PhoneLemons> PhoneBooks are all I need to live.
#506 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> if i had to be at work right now....
#507 [08:55] <Morrolan> You wouldn't be here. :)
#508 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> i'd better be getting at least triple time
#509 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> teamviewer on android works remarkably well, even if the keyboard takes a little getting used to
#510 [08:57] <1AVAAKUE6> is that what you're doing
#511 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#512 [08:58] <1AVAAKUE6> I didnt think you had set up a bouncer yet
#513 [08:58] <1AVAAKUE6> I was wondering how you were getting in
#514 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> I haven't
#515 [08:58] <1AVAAKUE6> you should
#516 [08:58] <1AVAAKUE6> theyre useful.
#517 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#518 [08:59] <1AVAAKUE6> however, they dont always get along with phones
#519 [08:59] <1AVAAKUE6> my 100 lines of scrollback from 40 channels does not agree with androirc at all.
#520 [09:00] <PhoneBook> Lol,
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#522 [09:00] <gv> I don't really like androirc
#523 [09:00] <PhoneBook> That a client>?
#524 [09:00] <1AVAAKUE6> ive heard andchat is better
#525 [09:00] <gv> Yeah
#526 [09:00] <MIA> Seriousely, is there a list of recommended Xmx per player somewhere?
#527 [09:00] <PhoneBook> I personally prefer mIRC.
#528 [09:00] <gv> I prefer andchat
#529 [09:00] <PhoneBook> 384mb
#530 [09:01] <PhoneBook> I think.
#531 [09:01] <1AVAAKUE6> MIA: how many people do you intend to run and how many plugins
#532 [09:01] <1AVAAKUE6> just set it to however much ram you can spare
#533 [09:01] <Morrolan> MIA - Depends on the number of plugins, just assing as much RAM to the server as you can spare.
#534 [09:01] <Morrolan> Heh.
#535 [09:01] <1AVAAKUE6> and then set the initial size to something not retarded.
#536 [09:01] <1AVAAKUE6> if it needs more it will grow
#537 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> Just like Magic!
#538 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> gv: yes, AndChat is much better
#539 [09:02] <PhoneBook> tyteen4a03: no, mIRC
#540 [09:03] * Morrolan blinks
#540 [09:03] <Morrolan> Is GreyVulpine actually on on two accounts at the moment?
#541 [09:03] <gv> Erm
#542 [09:03] <MIA> I have a lot of ram, so i my fingers itch to give more to minecraft
#543 [09:03] <tyteen4a03> PhoneBook: I will pretend I did not see that message
#544 [09:03] <Morrolan> And actively chatting wit hboth?
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#546 [09:03] <gv> Morrolan: yes
#547 [09:03] <Morrolan> with both*
#548 [09:03] <Morrolan> Haha, okay.
#549 [09:03] <PhoneBook> tyteen4a03: Maybe we shouldn't be friends :P lol...
#550 [09:03] <PhoneBook> Brb
#551 [09:04] <PhoneBook> Back
#552 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> PhoneBook: because AndChat is for Android
#553 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> unless there's an mIRC variant on Android I do not know of...
#554 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> s/an/a
#555 [09:05] <gv> There is not
#556 [09:05] <PhoneBook> Oh. Care to educate me on more things? :P
#557 [09:05] <Morrolan> The world isn't flat.
#558 [09:05] <gv> 1+1=3
#559 [09:05] <Morrolan> Babies aren't delivered by the stork.
#560 [09:05] <tyteen4a03> PhoneBook: More information: XChat has a variant called XChat-WDK which provides a free Windows build of XChat
#561 [09:05] <Morrolan> And, yes, 1+1=3
#562 [09:06] * PhoneBook gets out notebook
#562 [09:06] <1AVAAKUE6> -e^(i*pi) == 12
#563 [09:06] <1AVAAKUE6> 1*
#564 [09:06] <gv> Dero
#565 [09:06] <Morrolan> Better get a notepad.
#566 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> derphepr
#567 [09:07] <gv> Bah!
#568 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> !haB
#569 [09:07] <PhoneBook> 1AVAAKUE6: I have no need for that crap, lol..
#570 [09:07] <PhoneBook> No need = I'm too stupid.
#571 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> Morrolan: you're wrong about the world
#572 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> its flat as can be
#573 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> look at it
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#575 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> it looks pretty darn flat
#576 [09:07] <1AVAAKUE6> how can it possibly be round
#577 [09:08] <Morrolan> Don't worry, PhoneBook, the world needs shop assistants as well. :)
#578 [09:08] <PhoneBook> LOl
#579 [09:08] <Morrolan> 1AVAAKUE6 - Hmm, you've got a point.
#580 [09:08] <PhoneBook> I literly facepalmed there
#581 [09:08] <1AVAAKUE6> I love people who take hypothetical examples to ridiculous extremes
#582 [09:08] <gv> A liter of face palm?
#583 [09:08] <gv> That's. A lot
#584 [09:08] <PhoneBook> literaly*
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#586 [09:08] <1AVAAKUE6> A cubic meter of facepalm
#587 [09:09] <Morrolan> Nearly there, PhoneBook, nearly there.
#588 [09:09] <PhoneBook> literally**
#589 [09:09] <PhoneBook> lol
#590 [09:09] <1AVAAKUE6> thats about 20 metgabytes
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#592 [09:09] <1AVAAKUE6> hepr i cnat sepll drsnjep
#593 [09:09] <1AVAAKUE6> i have no excuse too, im on a real keybaord
#594 [09:09] <1AVAAKUE6> awfjwoeiutgahw
#595 [09:09] <gv> Hah
#596 [09:09] <1AVAAKUE6> i should just go back to bed
#597 [09:10] <1AVAAKUE6> this is not working out
#598 [09:10] <gv> You should
#599 [09:10] <PhoneBook> Adios
#600 [09:10] <1AVAAKUE6> haha lol jk i have a better idea
#601 [09:10] <gv> Nice. Warm. Comfy bed
#602 [09:10] <1AVAAKUE6> im going to go to the grocery store
#603 [09:10] <1AVAAKUE6> which involves driving
#604 [09:10] <gv> Uh oh
#605 [09:10] <1AVAAKUE6> if im not back in 20 minutes, please alert the proper authorities and call for an ambulence
#606 [09:10] <PhoneBook> Oh shi-
#607 [09:11] <gv> So noted
#608 [09:11] <Morrolan> "If the distance is longer than the length of the car, we take the car!"
#609 [09:11] <PhoneBook> I'm sure we will all miss you when you're dead.
#610 [09:11] <Morrolan> What, you live 20 minutes from the closes grocery store?
#611 [09:12] <Morrolan> 10, actually, come to think of it.
#612 [09:12] <1AVAAKUE6> Morrolan: its actually about 8 minutes
#613 [09:12] <gv> Wuggy wug lives in the middle of WugLand. It's 20 min to anywhere
#614 [09:12] <1AVAAKUE6> assuming I dont forget what im gettings
#615 [09:12] <Morrolan> Yea, just realized that those twenty minutes include both ways. :)
#616 [09:12] <1AVAAKUE6> gv: they call that acworth where im from
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#618 [09:13] <gv> Heh
#619 [09:13] <1AVAAKUE6> a mystical place thats precisely 20 minutes from every possible place
#620 [09:13] <chesterkmr> hi guys
#621 [09:13] <chesterkmr> im need help
#622 [09:13] <gv> 'lo
#623 [09:13] <gv> With?
#624 [09:13] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: what with?
#625 [09:13] <1AVAAKUE6> gv: you should download my CA certificate
#626 [09:14] <1AVAAKUE6> it says I live in Wuggsfield, New Wug
#627 [09:14] <chesterkmr> im long time not logging on minecraft.net,but now i try loggin and my accout migrated,and site tell me what my password wrong
#628 [09:14] <gv> Hah
#629 [09:14] <PhoneBook> WugWugWugWug
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#631 [09:14] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: someone might have stolen your account and migrated it
#632 [09:14] <chesterkmr> and mail not received on mail
#633 [09:15] <1AVAAKUE6> whats the factoid for what to do in this case
#634 [09:15] <gv> chesterkmr: reset your password and try logging in afain
#635 [09:15] <1AVAAKUE6> I dont remember it
#636 [09:15] <chesterkmr> i can't
#637 [09:15] <chesterkmr> im remember login
#638 [09:15] <chesterkmr> first mail received
#639 [09:15] <chesterkmr> but resetpassword mail not!
#640 [09:15] <chesterkmr> im try it 5 times
#641 [09:15] <chesterkmr> =/
#642 [09:15] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: did you try it from mojang.com
#643 [09:15] <chesterkmr> i tell,what mail not received
#644 [09:15] <1AVAAKUE6> whats your account name
#645 [09:16] <chesterkmr> i get only this mail Minecraft Username List
#646 [09:16] <chesterkmr> "Minecraft Username List"
#647 [09:16] <1AVAAKUE6> anything in it?
#648 [09:16] <chesterkmr> im so remember my login
#649 [09:17] <gv> Huh
#650 [09:17] <chesterkmr> anyone can help?why mail not received ><
#651 [09:17] <1AVAAKUE6> anything in it?
#652 [09:17] <1AVAAKUE6> gv: also, the organization listed is "the church of wug"
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#654 [09:17] <1AVAAKUE6> (we accept donations)
#655 [09:17] <chesterkmr> in mail?
#656 [09:18] <chesterkmr> Someone requested a list of all users bound to this e-mail account. If this wasn't you, you can safely ignore this e-mail, it won't bite. Accounts for cheskmr@yandex.ru: * chesterkmr (Premium!) That is all, happy mining. Mojang.
#657 [09:18] <1AVAAKUE6> so the account is chesterkmr?
#658 [09:18] <chesterkmr> yes
#659 [09:18] <chesterkmr> this my account ><
#660 [09:19] <1AVAAKUE6> check the email address again
#661 [09:19] <chesterkmr> im check it 5 minutes..
#662 [09:19] <chesterkmr> not one mail...
#663 [09:19] <1AVAAKUE6> I issues a reset from mojang.com
#664 [09:19] <chesterkmr> im try it from https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#665 [09:20] <chesterkmr> if i try it from minecraft.net they say what my account migrated
#666 [09:20] <chesterkmr> can you help me with my shitty problemm?
#667 [09:21] <chesterkmr> spam filter empty too
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#670 [09:21] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: read these instructions: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#671 [09:21] <1AVAAKUE6> specifically the section titled "Someone has migrated your Minecraft account to a Mojang account with a different email address"
#672 [09:22] <chesterkmr> im buy key not on site minecraft net,have for account only my mail and old password
#673 [09:22] <1AVAAKUE6> read and follow those instructions
#674 [09:23] <chesterkmr> instructions want transaction id
#675 [09:23] <chesterkmr> im not have it!
#676 [09:23] <isaiah> ok waited 3 days and stiil no premium i have not bend sent an email corfrimation sorry for my spelling
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#678 [09:24] <isaiah> ok waited 3 days and stiil no premium i have not bend sent an email corfrimation sorry for my spelling
#679 [09:24] <chesterkmr> wtf
#680 [09:24] <chesterkmr> nice support
#681 [09:24] <isaiah> ok i*
#682 [09:25] <chesterkmr> not one can't help me?
#683 [09:25] <chesterkmr> im buy key in the plati.ru last summer
#684 [09:25] <1AVAAKUE6> the instructions specifically say that you don't need the key to do this
#685 [09:25] <1AVAAKUE6> please read the section again
#686 [09:26] <chesterkmr> ok,wait
#687 [09:26] <moshi> please help ... not been able to connect to minecraft.net for 3 days now, tried everything .. any help ??
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#689 [09:26] <chesterkmr> hmm,i can find key on mail,but have i can return my account?where need enter key?
#690 [09:26] <1AVAAKUE6> moshi: have you updated java
#691 [09:27] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: the instructions say that they can reset your email address to what it originally was (presumably cheskmr@yandex.ru) without a transaction id
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#693 [09:28] <abcdie11> i need help
#694 [09:28] <1AVAAKUE6> abcdie11: the bank probably stopped the transaction
#695 [09:28] <chesterkmr> cheskmr@yandex.ru this originaly first adress
#696 [09:28] <abcdie11> i brought minecraft oh
#697 [09:28] <1AVAAKUE6> or the credit card company
#698 [09:28] <1AVAAKUE6> you explained this already
#699 [09:28] <abcdie11> i'll check
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#704 [09:32] <chesterkmr> 1AVAAKUE6 you here?
#705 [09:32] <1AVAAKUE6> yes
#706 [09:32] <chesterkmr> i have my key
#707 [09:32] <chesterkmr> what i will do now?
#708 [09:32] <1AVAAKUE6> I dont know what you mean by yout key
#709 [09:32] <1AVAAKUE6> your*
#710 [09:33] <chriztoph08> hey there, new to the game, and having trouble logging in. i checked everything out on my end. it's all good. any help would be awesome. i have a windows.
#711 [09:33] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: just go to the form i linked and read the whole thing
#712 [09:33] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: what message is it giving you
#713 [09:33] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: whoops
#714 [09:33] <1AVAAKUE6> that first message was for chesterkmr
#715 [09:33] <chriztoph08> can't connect to minecraft.net
#716 [09:34] <1AVAAKUE6> is java up to date
#717 [09:34] <chriztoph08> yeah, i updated it.
#718 [09:34] <1AVAAKUE6> do you have a firewall
#719 [09:34] <chesterkmr> i have my gift
#720 [09:34] <chesterkmr> gift key
#721 [09:34] <chriztoph08> i allowed it go through my firewall.
#722 [09:34] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: read the instructions
#723 [09:34] <1AVAAKUE6> you dont need it
#724 [09:34] <chesterkmr> im read it
#725 [09:34] <1AVAAKUE6> all you need is the account name
#726 [09:35] <chesterkmr> ..
#727 [09:35] <1AVAAKUE6> if you read it, you'd know exactly what to do
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#729 [09:35] <chesterkmr> ok im try make anyway ><
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#731 [09:36] <chesterkmr> i don't understand
#732 [09:36] <chesterkmr> im read it "Mojang gift code - example: a1b2-c3d4-e5f6 All Mojang games can have gift codes, which can be identified by three sets of alternating letters and numbers. Because gift codes can be given to other players, and it is sometimes the only identifying information that we have for an account, it is suggested that you do not publicize a gift code nor purchase it from a non-Mojang website. If you need to prove account ownership, and your accoun
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#734 [09:36] <chesterkmr> they send me in minecraft.net site
#735 [09:36] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: read this entire page, every word: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#736 [09:37] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: do you have more than one version of java installed
#737 [09:37] <chriztoph08> no i don't. i uninstalled previous versions.
#738 [09:38] <Oldman> So I spent a few days building a massive up structure to serve as a trap with water ways.It's up in the air, so it took a day for me to lead grass to it, as my trap was after the farm animal types. Then I spent another day getting rid of any grass anywhere near my trap for a distance, but nothing ever spawns on my grass pads. What might I be missing here?
#739 [09:38] <1AVAAKUE6> Oldman: I dont think anything spawns higher than y=128
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#742 [09:38] <1AVAAKUE6> I'm also not sure how animal spawning works. I think they changed it a version or 2 ago
#743 [09:38] <1AVAAKUE6> in fairly significant ways
#744 [09:39] <1AVAAKUE6> you might consult the wiki.
#745 [09:39] <Oldman> hmm that would sucks a lot
#746 [09:39] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: has it ever worked
#747 [09:39] <Oldman> well I am definitely not above y=128
#748 [09:39] <Oldman> there are tons of videos out there showing it
#749 [09:40] <1AVAAKUE6> Oldman: I dont know. check the wiki and see if the behavior you're expecting is inconsistent with mob spawning behavior
#750 [09:40] <chesterkmr> this not help me...
#751 [09:41] <chriztoph08> i just downloaded it today.
#752 [09:41] <chesterkmr> why i get mails from minecraft.net but not from mojang.com?
#753 [09:42] <1AVAAKUE6> chesterkmr: I'm not going to spoon feed it to you. click the contact link and explain your problem
#754 [09:42] <chesterkmr> ok thx
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#756 [09:44] <Oldman> lol
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#758 [09:47] <1AVAAKUE6> chriztoph08: sorry
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#760 [09:47] <1AVAAKUE6> was distracted
#761 [09:47] <1AVAAKUE6> does your windows username have a ! in ot
#762 [09:47] <1AVAAKUE6> it*
#763 [09:48] <chriztoph08> yeah.
#764 [09:48] <lutzee> ?? win/!
#765 [09:48] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#766 [09:48] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#767 [09:48] <1AVAAKUE6> it actually breaks java
#768 [09:48] <1AVAAKUE6> its a java bug.
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#770 [09:49] <lutzee> blame whoever added the factoid
#771 [09:49] <1AVAAKUE6> it was probably me
#772 [09:50] <1AVAAKUE6> and its not like it doesnt break minecraft too
#773 [09:50] <lutzee> Yeah i guess
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#775 [09:51] <tyteen4a03> I guess it used to work
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#777 [09:59] <chriztoph08> it now works. thanks everybody. really appreciate it.
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#779 [10:00] <Merpanator100> t
#780 [10:00] <Merpanator100> why does it say wehn i try to join m,y server internal server error
#781 [10:01] <Merpanator100> Why does it say when i try to join my minecraft server internal server error
#782 [10:01] <Merpanator100> Hello?
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#789 [10:05] <killamh> hi
#790 [10:06] <moshi> Hi again, Java updated, Minecraft.net now loading only this time it keeps crashing ... any ideas why?
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#792 [10:06] <HeroCC> Hi disk!
#793 [10:07] <HeroCC> Remember me?
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#796 [10:07] <lutzee> I don't believe disk is about..
#797 [10:07] <HeroCC> oh well
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#799 [10:08] <HeroCC> DiskDaemon
#800 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> HeroCC: I seem to remember you
#801 [10:08] <HeroCC> Cool
#802 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> I know you don't care :P
#803 [10:08] <HeroCC> I was here yesterday
#804 [10:09] <HeroCC> at least SOMEONE remembers my good deads
#805 [10:09] <HeroCC> Does the + mean you are voiced?
#806 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> yes
#807 [10:09] <moshi> Anyone have an insight as to why minecraft keeps crashing when loading to a server please ????
#808 [10:09] <HeroCC> Any mods?
#809 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> moshi: Is there any error messages? Have you tried other servers?
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#814 [10:12] <moshi> this is what comes up every time .......This error has been saved to C:\Users\Aliya\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-08-19_15.11.32-client.txt
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#816 [10:13] <chesterkmr_> any one support here?
#817 [10:13] <lutzee> moshi, go find that file, and copy the contents to pastebin.com ,press submit and copy the URL you get back here
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#819 [10:14] <HeroCC> Can you paste it?
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#821 [10:14] <chesterkmr_> Have i can get back my account if mail changed?Im have gift code,and old mail...
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#823 [10:15] <gv> Yes
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#826 [10:15] <chesterkmr> supports here?
#827 [10:15] <HeroCC> Yes?
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#829 [10:16] <HeroCC> VoxelHead, Remember me?
#830 [10:16] <gv> VoxelHead: is a bot
#831 [10:16] <chesterkmr> herocc,you can help me?
#832 [10:16] <HeroCC> Yes chaes?
#833 [10:16] <HeroCC> *Chest
#834 [10:17] <chesterkmr> My account stolen,and migrated....im have only gift code and old email adress
#835 [10:17] <chesterkmr> what i will do?stupid instructions on mojang.com not help me..
#836 [10:17] <gv> chesterkmr: use: help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#837 [10:17] <HeroCC> Try "forgot Password
#838 [10:17] <chesterkmr> im try it
#839 [10:17] <HeroCC> at mojang help
#840 [10:17] <gv> It'll take 2 months for mojang to get back to you
#841 [10:18] <chesterkmr> im now register account with old email adress on mojang com..
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#844 [10:18] <chesterkmr_> ping ><
#845 [10:18] * HeroCC now has 6 "Help Points"
#845 [10:18] <HeroCC> yay!
#846 [10:19] <chesterkmr_> hero,so how i can get back my account if i have gift code activated on my account?
#847 [10:19] <gv> help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#848 [10:19] <gv> Send email there
#849 [10:19] <chesterkmr_> ok thanks
#850 [10:19] <chesterkmr_> how long?you don't know?
#851 [10:19] <moshi> Hi ... im a little confused, copied the text to pastebin and submitted but not sure what im supposed to be looking for
#852 [10:19] <gv> The url
#853 [10:19] <HeroCC> Chest: Tell them what happened, and maby the Gift Number
#854 [10:20] <HeroCC> Moshi, url?
#855 [10:20] <gv> So we can see the error
#856 [10:20] <chesterkmr_> HeroCC,im buy this gift on onlinegameshop last summer
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#858 [10:21] <gv> Ouch
#859 [10:21] <gv> That'll be why
#860 [10:21] <gv> ?? Scam
#861 [10:21] <HeroCC> yep!
#862 [10:21] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#863 [10:21] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#864 [10:21] <HeroCC> Wish chest saw that
#865 [10:22] <lutzee> He's still here..
#866 [10:22] * HeroCC now has 7 "Help Points"
#866 [10:22] <HeroCC> oh, why yes he is
#867 [10:22] <HeroCC> his alt must have levt
#868 [10:23] <chesterkmr_> hero,so i can get back account only with gift code activated on account?
#869 [10:23] <chesterkmr_> and old mail
#870 [10:23] <gv> chesterkmr_: use help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#871 [10:23] <moshi> call me daft but what do you mean by URL?
#872 [10:23] <gv> Only mojang can help yoy
#873 [10:23] <lutzee> moshi, the link in the address bar
#874 [10:23] <HeroCC> Chest: If you bought it externally, less of a chanse, but try esnding the info
#875 [10:23] <chesterkmr_> i think they fuck me with my gifts code D;
#876 [10:23] * AuBot kicked chesterkmr_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hesterkmr_ :Please keep it civil.)
#877 [10:24] <HeroCC> OOOH chest got owned!
#878 [10:24] <NinjaKirby> AuBot, please keep it civil
#879 [10:24] <HeroCC> moshi, the long thing at top of screen
#880 [10:25] * HeroCC now has 8 "Help Points"
#880 [10:25] <moshi> pastebin.com/7YU4x5X1 Would this be it ??
#881 [10:25] <HeroCC> yes
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#883 [10:25] <HeroCC> unknown url
#884 [10:25] <HeroCC> gtg
#885 [10:25] <HeroCC> be bak soon
#886 [10:25] <HeroCC> be bak soon
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#888 [10:26] <gv> That's not a valid link moshi
#889 [10:27] <gv> Could you please resend the paste into link?
#890 [10:27] <moshi> i'll try again
#891 [10:29] <moshi> pastebin.com/83WYrrx7
#892 [10:29] <moshi> any good?
#893 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> moshi forceupdate
#894 [10:30] <VoxelHead> moshi: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#895 [10:30] <VoxelHead> moshi: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#896 [10:31] <moshi> will try that now
#897 [10:31] * Chris|Detached is now known as :Chris
#898 [10:33] * gerald|offline is now known as :geraldbrent
#899 [10:34] <moshi> thanks guys .. all working .. big smiles xx
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#906 [10:45] <1AVAAKUE6> gv: actually, checkster wasnt scammed
#907 [10:45] <1AVAAKUE6> he's just an idiot.
#908 [10:46] <hagge> Hi! Anybody know how to solve "out of memory" message. I have tried both offline and online version and also the solution to do a bat file which didn´t work at all. thanks!!
#909 [10:46] <gv> Pfft?
#910 [10:46] <1AVAAKUE6> his account was stolen, but he refuses for some reason to read the instructions about what to do if your account is stolen and then migrated
#911 [10:46] <1AVAAKUE6> he still has premium status
#912 [10:46] <gv> Ah.
#913 [10:47] <1AVAAKUE6> hagge: install 64 bit java
#914 [10:48] <hagge> Ok, thanks but I think it´s already installed but I will check it to be sure. Thanks!!
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#918 [10:50] <akallio> My minecraft skin isn't working!
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#920 [10:51] <akallio> My minecraft skin isn't working!
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#924 [10:51] <tyteen4a03> akallio: the skin featu-
#925 [10:51] <tyteen4a03> hopefully he left when he read the topic (which I highly doubt)
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#934 [11:01] <Doogel> Can I have help with a server?
#935 [11:02] <1AVAAKUE6> youll have to be more specific than that
#936 [11:03] <Doogel> Ports n stuff
#937 [11:03] <jlkkljh> i have a crash report if somebody wants to try to read it\
#938 [11:03] <jlkkljh> http://pastie.org/4550495
#939 [11:04] <jlkkljh> jre is java 6 u 34
#940 [11:04] <1AVAAKUE6> jlkkljh: is this 32 bit or 64 bit java
#941 [11:04] <jlkkljh> 64
#942 [11:04] <1AVAAKUE6> does it work for a while and then crash
#943 [11:04] <jlkkljh> no
#944 [11:04] <1AVAAKUE6> has it ever worked before
#945 [11:05] <jlkkljh> it crashes right after its done loading
#946 [11:05] <Doogel> Someone wanna help me?
#947 [11:05] <jlkkljh> i also had to re-install my os
#948 [11:05] <jlkkljh> and i just downloaded it yesterday
#949 [11:06] <Doogel> I am here toooo
#950 [11:06] <Doogel> lol
#951 [11:06] <jlkkljh> he knows
#952 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> jlkkljh: its probably a graphics driver issue
#953 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> make sure you update it
#954 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> dont rely on windows update for it, it will get an old version
#955 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> <Doogel> Can I have help with a server?
#956 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> <1AVAAKUE6> youll have to be more specific than that
#957 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> <Doogel> Ports n stuff
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#959 [11:09] <1AVAAKUE6> Doogel: you should forward the ports.
#960 [11:10] <1AVAAKUE6> see, its hard when people arent specific isnt it
#961 [11:10] <1AVAAKUE6> or you're not even there
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#963 [11:12] <WizardCM> would love some help on this issue http://youtu.be/O1iYHTi6pFI
#964 [11:13] <jlkkljh> i have a program that might help you out doogel:
#965 [11:13] <1AVAAKUE6> jlkkljh: doogel left
#966 [11:13] <1AVAAKUE6> and please don't distribute programs
#967 [11:13] <jlkkljh> ok
#968 [11:14] <jlkkljh> sorry
#969 [11:15] <jlkkljh> how do you update a driver for a vid card
#970 [11:15] <warchicken> What brand?
#971 [11:16] <jlkkljh> idk how do i check
#972 [11:16] <1AVAAKUE6> WizardCM: looks like a bukkit problem
#973 [11:16] <warchicken> heh
#974 [11:16] <WizardCM> happens with vanilla
#975 [11:16] <WizardCM> 1.3.2
#976 [11:16] <WizardCM> but not vanilla 1.2.5
#977 [11:17] <WizardCM> all with newly generated worlds
#978 [11:17] <1AVAAKUE6> 1.3.1 didnt have it
#979 [11:17] <WizardCM> it did for me
#980 [11:17] <1AVAAKUE6> is single player affected
#981 [11:18] <warchicken> Seems like slow I/O ?
#982 [11:18] <1AVAAKUE6> WizardCM: ask the bukkit people about it
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#984 [11:18] <lutzee> ??> jlkkljh win/dxdiag
#985 [11:18] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#986 [11:18] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#988 [11:19] <warchicken> WizardCM, so you have insane lag when switching between worlds?
#989 [11:19] <WizardCM> only in 'regular' worlds
#990 [11:20] <WizardCM> not flatlands
#991 [11:20] <1AVAAKUE6> warchicken: it looks like lag localized to specific worlds
#992 [11:20] <WizardCM> and only in 1.3
#993 [11:20] <WizardCM> in newly generated vanilla 1.3 worlds on a vanilla 1.3 server too
#994 [11:20] <warchicken> So when you opened a world that lagged in vanilla SMP it lagged as well?
#995 [11:20] <jlkkljh> http://pastie.org/4550575
#996 [11:21] <warchicken> Does that pc even have a gpu
#997 [11:21] <lutzee> ??> jlkkljh gpu/intel
#998 [11:21] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#999 [11:21] <jlkkljh> idk
#1000 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> warchicken - Yes it does.
#1001 [11:21] <lutzee> warchicken, integrated, but it looks like a very slow laptop..
#1002 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Integrated intel chipset
#1003 [11:22] <warchicken> Yeah, looks like a rather outdated laptop
#1004 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Betting it's a matter of the gigabyte of RAM that's being shared by the integrated chipset..
#1005 [11:22] <jlkkljh> no it is slowon a bad day but it is pretty fast for the most part
#1006 [11:22] <jlkkljh> i installed win 7 on it
#1007 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Ouch.
#1008 [11:23] <lutzee> jlkkljh, under my terms it is slow, but it will run the game, just not on max graphics and such
#1009 [11:24] <warchicken> jlkkljh, also install optifine mod
#1010 [11:24] <jlkkljh> i usually dont unless i run ramdisk
#1011 [11:24] <jlkkljh> it allows you to use some of hard disk for ram
#1012 [11:25] <lutzee> how can you use a ramdisk with only 1Gb of installed ram ._.
#1013 [11:25] <jlkkljh> no its a program
#1014 [11:25] <warchicken> What
#1015 [11:25] <lutzee> -.- I know what a ramdisk is
#1016 [11:25] <lutzee> oh other way round
#1017 [11:26] <lutzee> Anyway, if you run out of ram at any given point you will start to use the swap space on the HDD as ram anyway, but its a slow process
#1018 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda what is happening with jlkkljh's current situation anyways
#1019 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> There's too little RAM that the integrated intel video chipset does not have enough to do video acceleration, as well as reserving enough space for the java heap for minecraft
#1020 [11:28] <jlkkljh> thats not the program i ment
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#1022 [11:31] <lutzee> jlkkljh, put it this way, you can probably achieve read speeds off you HDD of around 100mb/s your ram can probably achieve 10x that it will be very similar for write speeds
#1023 [11:31] <lutzee> As soon as you start using HDD space as ram your games fps is going to drop significantly
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#1025 [11:35] <1AVAAKUE6> jlkkljh: dont use a ramdisk
#1026 [11:36] <1AVAAKUE6> you will hurt performance with that little ram
#1027 [11:36] <1AVAAKUE6> ramdisks havent helped since mcregion was introduced anyway
#1028 [11:36] <jlkkljh> im not going to
#1029 [11:36] <1AVAAKUE6> youd be best off limiting minecraft to 512M or something close to that
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#1031 [11:37] <1AVAAKUE6> the intel chip should be powerful enough to at least run it, if you get the latest drivers
#1032 [11:37] <PhoneBored> How does more RAM hurt the performance? I don't understnd.
#1033 [11:37] <1AVAAKUE6> PhoneBored: a ramdisk isnt more ram, its less
#1034 [11:37] <jlkkljh> i usually run it at 724
#1035 [11:37] <jlkkljh> mb
#1036 [11:37] <1AVAAKUE6> its taking a big block of ram and deciding that you can't use that for programs
#1037 [11:37] <PhoneBored> How do I see how much RAM I dedicate to minecraft
#1038 [11:38] <1AVAAKUE6> PhoneBored: if you dont set it explicitly its 1GB
#1039 [11:38] <jlkkljh> im not going to use a ramdisk
#1040 [11:38] <lutzee> PhoneBored, the default launcher will start with 512mb and max out at 1gb
#1041 [11:38] <PhoneBored> Okay.
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#1043 [11:38] <lutzee> It would be better with 512mb as max, it often runs better like that
#1044 [11:39] <jlkkljh> immaking the paging file bigger
#1045 [11:39] <1AVAAKUE6> jlkkljh: dont do that either
#1046 [11:39] <1AVAAKUE6> disks are slow
#1047 [11:39] <jlkkljh> why
#1048 [11:39] <1AVAAKUE6> just run minecraft with 512M
#1049 [11:39] <1AVAAKUE6> it performs ok all the way down to like 256
#1050 [11:40] <jlkkljh> not for me
#1051 [11:40] <1AVAAKUE6> you're limited by graphics performance probably
#1052 [11:40] <1AVAAKUE6> probably by cpu after that
#1053 [11:40] <PhoneBored> How do I change how much is dedicated, then?
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#1055 [11:40] <1AVAAKUE6> PhoneBored: you have to launch java with special arguments
#1056 [11:41] <1AVAAKUE6> the syntax is:
#1057 [11:41] <1AVAAKUE6> java -cp minecraft.exe -Xmx512M net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1058 [11:41] <1AVAAKUE6> all of that is case sensitive
#1059 [11:41] <PhoneBored> in a DOS box?
#1060 [11:41] <1AVAAKUE6> a command prompt yes
#1061 [11:41] <1AVAAKUE6> from the same folder minecraft.exe is in
#1062 [11:42] <PhoneBored> And Is that all i type to dedicate 512m ram
#1063 [11:42] <1AVAAKUE6> yep
#1064 [11:42] <1AVAAKUE6> changing the number allocates a different amount
#1065 [11:42] <1AVAAKUE6> its measured in MB as you probably guessed
#1066 [11:43] <PhoneBored> I get an error msg
#1067 [11:44] <1AVAAKUE6> you probably didnt change to the directory minecraft.exe is in
#1068 [11:44] <PhoneBored> oh
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#1072 [11:48] <mrswizz> i got banned on minecraft classic and dont know why
#1073 [11:49] <mrswizz> what do i do now
#1074 [11:49] <lutzee> We have no power over servers, if you got banned from a server, find a new one or find a way to contact the hoster of the classic server and try and get unbanned
#1075 [11:49] <lutzee> We can do nothing about server bans
#1076 [11:50] <mrswizz> ya its a bann on all minecraft classic servers
#1077 [11:51] <mrswizz> so all i can do is try to contact the guy that banned me huh
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#1080 [11:51] <lutzee> Well, we also don't support classic here either, as it is legacy and very old system
#1081 [11:51] <mrswizz> oh ok well hey thanks any way
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#1084 [11:53] <nate_> hi
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#1086 [11:53] <nate_> minecraft keeps saying bad video card drivers on startup
#1087 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> nate_ win/dxdiag/bat
#1088 [11:54] <VoxelHead> nate_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1089 [11:54] <VoxelHead> nate_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1090 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Please follow the instructions posted by VoxelHead
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#1094 [11:57] <nate_> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/19/2012, 11:54:50 Machine name: NATE Operating System: Windows 8 Consumer Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 8250) (8250.winmain_win8beta_se.120330-1316) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion System Model: NY552AA-ABA e9220f BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/01/09 15:56:25 Ver: 5.04
#1095 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Please use pastebin.com
#1096 [11:57] <nate_> I did
#1097 [11:58] <nate_> i submited it on pastebin
#1098 [11:58] <nate_> what now
#1099 [11:58] <lutzee> copy the link out of the address bar to here
#1100 [11:59] <nate_> http://pastebin.com/5svcPHpk
#1101 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#1102 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Try this driver: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#1103 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> nate_: No guarantees though, as you're on Windows 8
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#1105 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> nate_: How did you get this computer though?
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#1107 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Oops, wrong driver
#1108 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> ??< gpu/amd
#1109 [12:03] <nate_> ok
#1110 [12:03] <nate_> which one is it
#1111 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> nate_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#1112 [12:04] <nate_> which one do i download
#1113 [12:04] <nate_> the catalyst or hydra
#1114 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> nate_: The catalyst
#1115 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> nate_: How did you get this computer?
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#1117 [12:05] <nate_> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/release-preview
#1118 [12:06] <nate_> i wouldnt download it
#1119 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> nate_: No, how did you get this computer? as in the hardware
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#1121 [12:06] <nate_> what do u mean the hp?
#1122 [12:07] <lutzee> We mean the physical machine
#1123 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> ahh, that's the word
#1124 [12:07] <nate_> i dont know xmas hp.com
#1125 [12:08] <nate_> its pretty popular
#1126 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Was it on sale?
#1127 [12:08] <nate_> idk
#1128 [12:08] <nate_> what do u ask
#1129 [12:09] <lutzee> The engineering sample graphics card has got me thinking...
#1130 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: same here
#1131 [12:09] <Eddie> Bridge to engineering!
#1132 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Eddie: oh you
#1133 [12:10] <lutzee> xD
#1134 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: if it was on sale, it would explain the engineering sample card
#1135 [12:10] <nate_> thats not a good card?
#1136 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> nate_: No, typically these kind of PC do not receive an "engineering sample" display card
#1137 [12:11] <lutzee> It would, i'm quite happy with the CPU actually,
#1138 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> nate_: These are for technical preview and is targeted at display card engineers
#1139 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> nate_: That is why we wonder how you get this computer
#1140 [12:11] <lutzee> And if it was a final release card i wouldn't say it's a bad card
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#1142 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: it isn't bad
#1143 [12:12] <nate_> so a good card
#1144 [12:12] <nate_> nice
#1145 [12:12] <nate_> i didnt know
#1146 [12:12] <lutzee> nate_, nor is it anywhere near top of the range
#1147 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> nate_: who got this computer for you?
#1148 [12:12] <nate_> lol my mom
#1149 [12:12] <nate_> xmas
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#1151 [12:12] <nate_> download is done
#1152 [12:13] <nate_> for the catalyst
#1153 [12:13] <nate_> what now
#1154 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> nate_: install it
#1155 [12:13] <lutzee> tyteen that pretty much says it was on sale, i'm actually quite thinking that it was also a refurbished machine
#1156 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: Yeah, could be possible
#1157 [12:13] <nate_> it is installed
#1158 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> nate_: Restart the computer and launch Minecraft again
#1159 [12:14] <nate_> k bye guys
#1160 [12:14] <nate_> thx
#1161 [12:14] <lutzee> If HP had a few sample cards lying around, i bet a technician wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a final release and a sample card
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#1165 [12:20] <epiccheese14> hey can somebody help me?
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#1170 [12:27] <Tonetuga> anyone's there that could help me?
#1171 [12:27] <lutzee> What is the problem?
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#1173 [12:28] <Tonetuga> i'm trying to buy the minecraft game
#1174 [12:28] <Tonetuga> the problem is my card is mastro
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#1176 [12:28] <Tonetuga> tried with moneybookers but at the bank says error always
#1177 [12:29] <lutzee> Hmm, try paypal,
#1178 [12:29] <Tonetuga> checking it right now
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#1201 [13:38] <Calinou> lol
#1202 [13:38] <Calinou> pedro, why did you rename yourself? trying to make a joke on someone? :D
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#1207 [13:47] <nate_> hi
#1208 [13:47] <Denizen> Hello.
#1209 [13:48] <nate_> i have a bad video card driver
#1210 [13:48] <nate_> thats what the error report says
#1211 [13:48] <Denizen> Which type of video card do you have?
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#1213 [13:48] <Denizen> AMD/ATI or nVidia?
#1214 [13:49] <nate_> ATI
#1215 [13:49] <Calinou> ?? gpu/amd
#1216 [13:50] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1217 [13:50] <Denizen> thanks calinou I forgot what it was called
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#1219 [13:50] <Denizen> Anyways yes, nate_, go to that link.
#1220 [13:50] <Denizen> And follow the instructions.
#1221 [13:50] <nate_> IT WAS UNABLE TO FIND IT
#1222 [13:50] <nate_> srry caps
#1223 [13:51] <nate_> hello?
#1224 [13:52] <YamiNokaabii> Hi
#1225 [13:52] <Denizen> What exactly happened?
#1226 [13:52] <Denizen> Did you download the file?
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#1228 [13:52] <nate_> ya
#1229 [13:52] <nate_> it said it was unable to find the OS and something
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#1234 [13:54] <Melanie> How do I create a multiplayer??
#1235 [13:54] <nate_> hello?
#1236 [13:54] <Melanie> HI
#1237 [13:55] <Melanie> Can you help me?
#1238 [13:55] <nate_> ya
#1239 [13:55] <Melanie> How do I create a multiplayer?
#1240 [13:55] <nate_> do u want a server?
#1241 [13:55] <Melanie> Server also
#1242 [13:55] <nate_> go to minecraft.net
#1243 [13:56] <nate_> go to download now
#1244 [13:56] <Melanie> ok
#1245 [13:56] <PhoneBook> Bukkit is nice for plugins
#1246 [13:56] <nate_> at the bottom it should say multiplayer server
#1247 [13:56] <rymate1234> ^
#1248 [13:56] <rymate1234> Buuuuukit
#1249 [13:56] <PhoneBook> The default for smp and classic sucks
#1250 [13:56] <rymate1234> dl.bukkit.org
#1251 [13:56] <rymate1234> I think
#1252 [13:57] <PhoneBook> well, smp default isnt THAT bad
#1253 [13:57] <nate_> hello are u there
#1254 [13:57] <nate_> MELANIE
#1255 [13:57] <Melanie> Yes I am doing it as you talk
#1256 [13:57] <nate_> k
#1257 [13:57] <nate_> click download
#1258 [13:57] <rymate1234> Melanie, what kind of multiplayer server
#1259 [13:57] <rymate1234> do you want one with plugins like craftbukkit?
#1260 [13:57] <rymate1234> or do you want default minecraft
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#1262 [13:58] <nate_> she wants default
#1263 [13:58] <nate_> i think
#1264 [13:58] <Melanie> craftbukkit
#1265 [13:58] <nate_> oh ok
#1266 [13:58] <nate_> talk to him then
#1267 [13:58] <nate_> rymate 1234
#1268 [13:58] <rymate1234> k
#1269 [13:58] <nate_> talk to him about it
#1270 [13:59] <Melanie> When I hit download it doesnt do anything.
#1271 [13:59] <nate_> are u on ie or google chrome
#1272 [13:59] <rymate1234> Melanie, http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1273 [13:59] <nate_> OR FIREFOX
#1274 [13:59] <rymate1234> that's for bukkit
#1275 [13:59] <rymate1234> nate_, or Opera. opr Safari
#1276 [13:59] <rymate1234> *or
#1277 [13:59] <nate_> WAT
#1278 [14:00] <nate_> DOES ANYONE NEED HELP
#1279 [14:00] <Melanie> I am not sure. Sorry
#1280 [14:00] <rymate1234> Melanie, http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1281 [14:00] <rymate1234> that's for craftbukkit
#1282 [14:00] <rymate1234> :)
#1283 [14:01] <Melanie> And that webiste will tell us how to do everything to play multiplayer?
#1284 [14:01] <nate_> ya
#1285 [14:01] <Melanie> Ok Thank you for your help.
#1286 [14:02] <nate_> anytime
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#1293 [14:14] <HELPME> My audio in my mine craft isnt working
#1294 [14:15] <HELPME> can some one help
#1295 [14:16] <rymate1234> HELPME, are you speakers on
#1296 [14:16] <HELPME> yup
#1297 [14:16] <rymate1234> is sound turned on in minecraft
#1298 [14:16] <HELPME> yup
#1299 [14:16] <rymate1234> do you have any mods
#1300 [14:16] <rymate1234> has windows muted your PC
#1301 [14:16] <HELPME> well theres were the problem lies i tryed to download
#1302 [14:16] <HELPME> a mod
#1303 [14:17] <rymate1234> ?? > win/reinst
#1304 [14:17] <rymate1234> meh
#1305 [14:17] <rymate1234> ?? > index
#1306 [14:17] <rymate1234> ?? win/reinst
#1307 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1308 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1309 [14:18] <HELPME> i use a mac
#1310 [14:18] <rymate1234> oh
#1311 [14:18] <rymate1234> lol
#1312 [14:18] <rymate1234> ?? mac/reinst
#1313 [14:18] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1314 [14:18] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1315 [14:18] <rymate1234> :>
#1316 [14:18] <HELPME> already tryed that
#1317 [14:18] <HELPME> d=
#1318 [14:19] <rymate1234> hmmmm
#1319 [14:19] <rymate1234> well, can't help you much further than checking that your audio isn't muted
#1320 [14:19] <rymate1234> I don't use a mac :<
#1321 [14:19] <HELPME> my audio is partly working i can hear pain and animals but not breaking blocks
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#1324 [14:20] <rymate1234> hmmmm
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#1326 [14:20] <HELPME> alright well ill try one las t time
#1327 [14:21] <HELPME> tanks
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#1330 [14:26] <free> hi
#1331 [14:27] <free> i cannot seem to recive the vertification email
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#1341 [14:38] <Seigi> Hello. I just bought the game and wanted to use a Texture Pack. I added "LB Photo Realism", and Minecraft sees the Texture Pack, but I just can't select it. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
#1342 [14:41] <Denizen> Seigi, what exactly happens?
#1343 [14:41] <Denizen> Do you select it then the game freezes?
#1344 [14:41] <Denizen> First off, did you patch Minecraft?
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#1349 [14:55] <Seigi> I just downloaded it
#1350 [14:55] <Chaos234> Hi
#1351 [14:55] <Seigi> So, I think I patched it? I don' t know..
#1352 [14:55] <Chaos234> I've a Problem with my mincraft-server
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#1354 [14:55] <Uragonor> yo
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#1356 [14:56] <Seigi> And, I start it up, go to Texture Packs and it shows "Default" and "LB Photo Realism" as possible Texture Packs. Left nor Right click, nor scrolling or keypresses will change the selected though.
#1357 [14:56] <Uragonor> can any one anwesser why my minecraft crashes upon the update to 1.3 ?
#1358 [14:57] <Chaos234> In the setting the value of "allow-flight=true" but in survival mode op's can't fly
#1359 [14:57] <Chaos234> what is the Problem?
#1360 [14:57] <Uragonor> i cant update to 1.3 every time i try it crashes
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#1365 [15:01] <Uragonor> help please with crash upon upate to 1.3 ?
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#1371 [15:08] <razor> Why cant i purchase minecraft?
#1372 [15:09] <razor> i keep getting a messege saying my card cant be used for 24 hours no matter which card i use??
#1373 [15:09] <razor> anyone?
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#1376 [15:11] <Oldman> Anyone out there using traps for farming cows?
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#1380 [15:14] <Chaos234> it seems that actually nobody from the supportteam is online
#1381 [15:14] <Chaos234> thats very bad
#1382 [15:15] * Nathan2055 hides
#1382 [15:15] <Oldman> Is that who usually moderates this?
#1383 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Actually, no. This chatroom is moderated by community volunteers.
#1384 [15:15] <AwayK> ^
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#1386 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> What can we help you with?
#1387 [15:16] <Nathan2055> Like me.
#1388 [15:16] <Oldman> Grey! Hey, we talked the other day about getting grass to spawn etc. do you remember that?
#1389 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes I do.
#1390 [15:16] <Nathan2055> Oldman: Wheat + fence.
#1391 [15:16] <Nathan2055> Works every time.
#1392 [15:16] <Nathan2055> Anybody else on hold?
#1393 [15:17] <Oldman> Okay, so my intent was to build a large rectangula area up in the air with water channels to farm cows, I can't seem to get cows to spawn there though I have removed grassfrom anywhere near my platform. Any thoughts/ideas?
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#1395 [15:18] <Chaos234> flight-mode doesnt work on my server
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#1397 [15:18] <Chaos234> *doesn't
#1398 [15:18] <SnowyOwl_> hi
#1399 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> flight-mode just allows the client to use a mod that grants them fly
#1400 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> It does not actually let a client fly
#1401 [15:18] <Chaos234> very bad
#1402 [15:18] <Nathan2055> Chaos234: ?
#1403 [15:19] <Seigi> I was on hold (though that was sort-of my fault, I missed the reply). I just bought the game and wanted to use a Texture Pack. I added "LB Photo Realism", and Minecraft sees the Texture Pack, but I just can't select it. And, I start it up, go to Texture Packs and it shows "Default" and "LB Photo Realism" as possible Texture Packs. Left nor Right click, nor scrolling or keypresses will change the selected though.
#1404 [15:19] <Nathan2055> SnowOwl_: Hi.
#1405 [15:19] <Chaos234> then programm a patch to use fly without mods because my server don't need mods
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#1407 [15:19] <fanny_> hi
#1408 [15:19] <SnowyOwl_> hey fanny
#1409 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Seigi - Did you install an hd texture fix?
#1410 [15:19] <SnowyOwl_> say
#1411 [15:19] <Seigi> A what?
#1412 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Seigi - Minecraft doesn't actually natively support HD texture packs. You need to install a mod that'll let you do HD texture packs
#1413 [15:19] <Nathan2055> Chaos234: Sorry, that's just how it works.
#1414 [15:19] <Seigi> I see. Any recommendations for that?
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#1416 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Seigi - "HD texture fix" is one, but you can probably google for it
#1417 [15:20] <Nathan2055> Seigi: Use either OptiFine or MCPatcher. Google one of them and follow the directions.
#1418 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Seigi - The texture pack should also contain instructions as well
#1419 [15:20] <Seigi> I will google it :)
#1420 [15:20] <SnowyOwl_> Porn Pictures Hd
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#1423 [15:20] <Chaos234> Well, thanks for answering Nathan2055 :)
#1424 [15:20] <fanny_> hello i need help with my minecraft client i can play for like 10 mins then it just crashes
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#1426 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> fanny_ - Crashes how? Do you get any error reports?
#1427 [15:20] <Oldman> sigh got booted. So let me start my post all over again...
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#1429 [15:21] <fanny_> no it just crashes and stay on the thing that was in the picture last it does not say no error
#1430 [15:22] <SnowyOwl_> i like penis
#1431 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> !k SnowyOwl_
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#1433 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> fanny_ - So it just hangs?
#1434 [15:22] <Chaos234> Ok, is there a good page with mods listed, which are simple to handle (like administration-mods, shop/econommy, fly, etc./pp) and which hardware is req for a server with 20 players in survival mod?
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#1436 [15:22] <fanny_> yeh idk y
#1437 [15:22] <SnowyOwl> hello again
#1438 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - Hmm. One such page would be like: http://metrics.griefcraft.com/
#1439 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - Lists and orders bukkit plugins in descending order of popularity that servers use
#1440 [15:23] <Oldman> I was hoping to create a trap for animals (cows, chickens, pigs, etc..). I saw an example online with water channels etc. I built a large area with water channels etc.. But couldn't get cows to spawn, then someone told me I had to remove all grass near the platform in order for cows to spawn. So, cleared out all grass for 150 blocks distance around my platform, yet no cows still spawn, then someone on here told me cows don't spawn
#1441 [15:24] <fanny_> so is their a way to ix it greyvulpine
#1442 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> fanny_ - I'd start by uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#1443 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> fanny_ - Also try a force update through the launcher's 'options' menu, the one you use to log in with
#1444 [15:25] <Chaos234> Thanks GreyVulpine
#1445 [15:26] <fanny_> i have force updated it
#1446 [15:26] <fanny_> but i will try the java thing
#1447 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Oldman - Hmm. animal spawning's been changed since I've last played. Can't really say.
#1448 [15:26] <fanny_> thanks
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#1450 [15:26] <Chaos234> And what is wiht the needed hardware like RAM for a 20 MS?
#1451 [15:26] <Oldman> okay sounds good.I will go the farm route. Have a nice day all =)
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#1454 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> MS?
#1455 [15:27] <Chaos234> Minecraft Server
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#1457 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> You mean, 20 slots?
#1458 [15:28] <Chaos234> yes
#1459 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I'd go, no less than 1 gig of RAM, depending on the number of plugins you plan to use as well
#1460 [15:29] <zen> I'm admin on a server that had 1Gb ram assigned to 20 slots, and that was plenty
#1461 [15:29] <zen> Ofcourse thats 2Gb now, but i've not actually seen it hit 1.5Gb yet
#1462 [15:29] <Chaos234> Not many plugins. AuthMe, Shop/Ecommy, Fly and a NPCCity for trading.
#1463 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Then a gig would be sufficient for 20 slots.
#1464 [15:32] <Chaos234> Thanks and the Network with 100Mbit or better Gigabit-Lan is enough? It's a Debian 6 vserver with a Teamspeak 3 server - is this ok or disrupt minecraft the teamspeak 3 server?
#1465 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> That's fine.
#1466 [15:34] <Chaos234> Thats very good so I can use Mincraft together with Teamspeak 3
#1467 [15:34] <Chaos234> great
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#1469 [15:35] <Uragonor> can someone help me when i had 1.2.5 i tryed to update to 1.3 it loded and the mojang screen showed up the minecraft crashed
#1470 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports?
#1471 [15:35] <Uragonor> yes i di
#1472 [15:35] <Uragonor> did
#1473 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Please share it with us via www.pastebin.com -- give us the URL after you submit it
#1474 [15:37] <Chaos234> ok, then there is another question: I've seen, that it's possible to set the online-mode to false
#1475 [15:37] <Chaos234> on which time should I use this value?
#1476 [15:37] <Uragonor> here is the url http://pastebin.com/D33LXzT2
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#1478 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - online-mode set to true lets the server query the mojang server each time a player enters your server, verifying that they're using a legit version of minecraft.
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#1481 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Should the authentication server on Mojang's side fail (which it has been known to do from time to time), or you wish to run your own form of nick authentication, you can set the value to false.
#1482 [15:40] <Chaos234> So it's ok that player use a not legit version of mincraft?
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#1484 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> It is very very risky to set it to false otherwise, since it'll let anybody come on with any nick they wish.
#1485 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> including yours, should you set yourself to op, they would have that ability as well.
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#1487 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - No, it is not okay.
#1488 [15:41] <Chaos234> Don't forgett the white-list :)
#1489 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't mean anything if anybody can set their nick to anything they wish
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#1491 [15:41] <Gabe> how do i get minecraft to stop running in Java SE binary even when it's closed?
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#1493 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Gabe - You cannot, since minecraft runs off of java.
#1494 [15:42] <Gabe> you can't stop running Java SE binary so i can replace my .jar?
#1495 [15:42] <Chaos234> minecraft runns off of java? what do you mean?
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#1497 [15:42] <Gabe> i could do it in1.2.5 but i cant in 1.3
#1498 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs on java.
#1499 [15:42] <Chaos234> ah ok
#1500 [15:42] <Gabe> i know but to replace the minecraft.jar i have to restart my computer for it to work
#1501 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Uragonor - Looks like a java error. Try uninstalling java and reinstalling it
#1502 [15:43] <Uragonor> ok ill try that
#1503 [15:43] <Seigi> Thanks a lot, GreyVulpine and Nathan2055. It works perfectly now.
#1504 [15:43] * GreyVulpine nods.
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#1505 [15:43] <acolytetojippity> quick question, i have a server for me and my roomate, but it's not 1.3. We'd love to update it, but everywhere i look online is telling me that it is going to wipe the world/i'll need to convert it. can anyone tell me what i'd need to do?
#1506 [15:43] <Chaos234> can I join server with online-mode and without online-mode with the actually client and a bourght account?
#1507 [15:43] <Gabe> so how do i solve this problem where i dont have to restart my computer every time to replace the minecraft.jar?
#1508 [15:44] <Kanegasi> gabe: do you mean that java doesnt shut down when minecraft exits, locking your .jar file?
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#1510 [15:44] <Gabe> YES
#1511 [15:44] <Kanegasi> interesting
#1512 [15:44] <Gabe> that's what i mean
#1513 [15:44] <Kanegasi> go into task manager and force it off
#1514 [15:44] <Kanegasi> just right click on java.exe and end task
#1515 [15:45] <Gabe> okay i'll try that and report back
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#1517 [15:46] <Kanegasi> the humor part of me wants to see System32 banned with the reason 'Deleted'
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#1519 [15:47] <acolytetojippity> Does anyone have a link to instructions for upgradeing a 1.2.5 server to 1.3, while keeping the same world?
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#1521 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Just replace the minecraft_server binary
#1522 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> As long as you don't delete the world's folder, it'll still use it
#1523 [15:48] <acolytetojippity> huh. everywhere online was telling me i'd need to convert the world
#1524 [15:48] <acolytetojippity> or start fresh
#1525 [15:48] <Kanegasi> nah. your old chucks will stay old chunks, you just need to travel to new chucks to get the new things
#1526 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1527 [15:48] <Kanegasi> *chunks
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#1529 [15:49] <acolytetojippity> when you say 'old chunks' they'll still function, right?
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#1531 [15:49] <Kanegasi> yes
#1532 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1533 [15:49] <Kanegasi> everything in your worlds will still work
#1534 [15:49] <acolytetojippity> sweet. cause me and roomate found an amazing ravine/canyon/crevasse thing we've been exploring the frak out of
#1535 [15:50] <Kanegasi> of course, in that case, you can always test that seed to make sure its the same thing or very similar in 1.3
#1536 [15:50] <Uragonor> YES !!!!!!! IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!!! I GOT !>#>@ !!!!!!!!!
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#1538 [15:50] <Kanegasi> lmao
#1539 [15:51] <acolytetojippity> no, we wouldn't want to start over
#1540 [15:51] <Kanegasi> gotcha, then you're fine
#1541 [15:51] <Kanegasi> just extract the minecraft_server binary over the old one
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#1545 [15:54] <Duxyneo> Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me. Whenever I open up minecraft, it loads up, tells me I'm logging in, says that its done loading and then just goes black and closes its self. Any suggestions on what I should do?
#1546 [15:54] * Disori|off is now known as :Disori
#1547 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Do you get an error report? Has minecraft ever worked before?
#1548 [15:55] <Duxyneo> First time downloading it and I keep getting hs_err_pid9092 popping up, but the numbers at the end change each time
#1549 [15:56] <gv> Please open one of those files up. Copy everything inside. Paste it at www.pastebin.com
#1550 [15:56] <gv> Submit it and give us the url
#1551 [15:57] <Duxyneo> http://pastebin.com/L0Yb3UkQ
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#1553 [15:57] <Duxyneo> I saw something similar on the minecraft forums and they had no solutions
#1554 [15:57] <gv> Looks like a simple case of outdated ati video deivers
#1555 [15:57] <gv> Er drivers
#1556 [15:58] <gv> Do you know how to update them?
#1557 [15:58] <Duxyneo> No really tbh no lols, bit of a shit IT uni student really haha xD
#1558 [15:58] <gv> Please follow VoxelHead's instructions here.
#1559 [15:58] <Duxyneo> I've tried googling for the right drivers but can't find the right ones for my laptop and not sure how to
#1560 [15:59] <gv> ??> Duxyneo win/dxdiag
#1561 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Duxyneo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1562 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Duxyneo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1564 [16:00] <Duxyneo> http://pastebin.com/UzPX2Vwh there you go
#1565 [16:01] * gv sighs
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#1566 [16:01] <gv> Toshiba. C660 laptop
#1567 [16:01] <Duxyneo> Aye
#1568 [16:02] <gv> alright then. One moment
#1569 [16:03] <zen> ?? c660
#1570 [16:03] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1571 [16:03] <zen> gv ^
#1572 [16:03] <gv> Yeah that was what I was looking for, thanks
#1573 [16:03] <Duxyneo> Thanks guys! I take it the c660 has given lots of people problems with minecraft then? lol
#1574 [16:04] <gv> It took this channel a week to fiagnosr
#1575 [16:04] <gv> Er diagnose.
#1576 [16:04] <gv> Bogged many a helper.
#1577 [16:06] <gv> Anyhoo, just follow those directions. Search for the latest drivers from Intel's sire
#1578 [16:06] <gv> Er Site.
#1579 [16:06] <Duxyneo> Thanks a lot guys!
#1580 [16:07] <Duxyneo> Right, restarting now, hopefully should work!
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#1589 [16:14] <Duxyneo> Hey, just nipped back on to say a MASSIVE thank you to you guys for helping me out!
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#1599 [16:40] <chuck1> when i try to start the demo of minecraft i get an error and it says "minecraft failed to start" then it automatically generates a crash report
#1600 [16:41] <chuck1> is there anyway to fix this? or what should i do?
#1601 [16:42] <gv> The demo at minecraft.net/demo?
#1602 [16:42] <chuck1> yup
#1603 [16:42] <chuck1> i am running 64bit
#1604 [16:42] <chuck1> if that makes a difference
#1605 [16:43] <chuck1> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game This error has been saved to C:\Users\Charles\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-08-19_16.43.15-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 67d9bef8 -------- Generated 8/19
#1606 [16:43] <gv> Could you give us a link to the error message via pastebin.com
#1607 [16:44] <chuck1> lol i just copy pasted it
#1608 [16:44] <lutzee> ?? pastebin
#1609 [16:44] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1610 [16:44] <gv> Yeah... I can't read it like that
#1611 [16:45] <chuck1> http://pastebin.com/7bwrK993
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#1613 [16:45] <ThePugson> any1 here? i need help
#1614 [16:45] <lutzee> Looks like bad video card drivers
#1615 [16:46] <chuck1> how do i update my video card driver?
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#1617 [16:46] <lostcause> Is there an unstuck feature? I got caught in a spiderweb and have no sheers, water, or other tools to get out. =(
#1618 [16:46] <gv> ?? Gpu/nvidia
#1619 [16:46] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
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#1621 [16:47] <chuck1> so just downloand and install that and then it should work?
#1622 [16:47] <gv> lostcause: perhaps with a map editor?
#1623 [16:47] <lutzee> wait, the crash reports have an "is modded" check? hehe
#1624 [16:47] <gv> chuck1: should, yes
#1625 [16:47] <gv> Yeah
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#1627 [16:47] <lostcause> I have no map editor. Surely there is a method in the game to get back to my starting point?or get unstuck?
#1628 [16:47] <chuck1> thanks a ton
#1629 [16:48] <gv> Not that I recall lostcause
#1630 [16:48] <lostcause> so basically I am stuck here permanently?
#1631 [16:48] <gv> ?? mcedit
#1632 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1633 [16:48] <gv> Nope. ^
#1634 [16:49] <gv> Mcedit is a map editor
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#1638 [16:49] <Chonketta> so plants and baby animals won't grow unless a player is near, right?
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#1640 [16:50] <gv> Bah. User list button is too close to the disconnect button
#1641 [16:55] <Kanegasi> i thought you could break spiderwebs with your hands
#1642 [16:55] <Kanegasi> or break everything else around you and walk out of the web, unless you dropped down an obsidian/bedrock hole
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#1644 [16:56] <Kanegasi> chonketta: plants and babies (animals and villagers) grow regardless of player location
#1645 [16:57] <Kanegasi> they are the persisting parts of minecraft and continue growing even if no one is in the world
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#1647 [16:57] <Chonketta> Kanegasi, thanks, but that's not my experience
#1648 [16:58] <Chonketta> we built a town, chicken coops and fields and such... then it got pretty trashy so we moved a few chunks north
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#1650 [16:59] <Chonketta> hardly any players on this server, this weekend just me... I'm in north town but go to old town for food... and replant and hatch eggs... then come back later, no growth.
#1651 [16:59] <Chonketta> what do you make of it?
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#1653 [17:00] <Kanegasi> ahh, nevermind. looking it up, blocks only receive ticks within a 15x15 chunk area around a player
#1654 [17:01] <Chonketta> where did you find it please?
#1655 [17:01] <Kanegasi> minecraftwiki.net
#1656 [17:01] <Kanegasi> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tick
#1657 [17:01] <Kanegasi> i was under the assumption that chunk updates and such were persistant, but i was wrong
#1658 [17:01] <Chonketta> WORD, thanks!
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#1661 [17:02] <Kanegasi> np
#1662 [17:02] <mib_8ylm54> need GM for MC
#1663 [17:02] <Kanegasi> there are no GMs. the server you are playing on is controlled by normal players like yourself
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#1665 [17:02] <mib_8ylm54> ohhh
#1666 [17:03] <Kanegasi> what is the issue though?
#1667 [17:03] <Chonketta> man, reading this page... there's no way to get a tick except have a player in the 16x16 block... nuts
#1668 [17:03] <Chonketta> I was hoping to drive a cart thru and have it force a tick
#1669 [17:03] <mib_8ylm54> i buy minecraft by minecraft.net. Now are 5 days over but i dont become any e mail
#1670 [17:03] <mib_8ylm54> is anyone knows the problem ?
#1671 [17:03] <Kanegasi> OH, thats what you need help with. how did you purchase it
#1672 [17:04] <mib_8ylm54> with EC
#1673 [17:04] <Kanegasi> chonketta: not within 16 blocks, 15 chunks. thats actually a big area
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#1675 [17:05] <Kanegasi> thats 260 blocks away
#1676 [17:05] <martzo> Hi i need help pls
#1677 [17:05] <martzo> verry important
#1678 [17:05] <lutzee> Chonketta, mods can do it, that is the only way
#1679 [17:05] <Kanegasi> mib_8ylm54: EC?
#1680 [17:05] <mib_8ylm54> typical german
#1681 [17:05] <martzo> Can someone help me pls ? admin ?
#1682 [17:05] <lutzee> martzo, what is the problem?
#1683 [17:05] <mib_8ylm54> with transfer
#1684 [17:05] <martzo> Lutzee
#1685 [17:05] <Kanegasi> credit/debit card?
#1686 [17:06] <mib_8ylm54> debit card
#1687 [17:06] <martzo> so, i'm running on Mac Os X 10.7.4
#1688 [17:06] <Kanegasi> did the charge show up on your account?
#1689 [17:06] <martzo> And minecrat didn't upgrade to 1.3.1
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#1691 [17:06] <mib_8ylm54> no
#1692 [17:07] <martzo> Can you help me ?
#1693 [17:07] <Chonketta> Kanegasi, thanks... yeah need a mod... or farms at the new town, ha
#1694 [17:07] <Kanegasi> try the purchase again if it did not show up on your card and you didnt get an email
#1695 [17:07] <Kanegasi> chonketta: np
#1696 [17:07] <Kanegasi> oh, and 240 blocks, not 260 lol
#1697 [17:08] <martzo> Lutzee ?
#1698 [17:08] <mib_8ylm54> i want to do it, but later he transfer and i buy it 2 times and lost 40 €
#1699 [17:08] <Kanegasi> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329760-i%E2%80%99ve-been-charged-more-than-once-
#1700 [17:08] <mib_8ylm54> where i contact a Gamemaster
#1701 [17:08] <Kanegasi> also, what is your minecraft username?
#1702 [17:09] <mib_8ylm54> Spleni
#1703 [17:09] <lutzee> martzo, i'm not a mac user, perhaps Scott is around and can help? :)
#1704 [17:09] <Kanegasi> !paid Spleni
#1705 [17:09] <Kanegasi> :(
#1706 [17:09] <martzo> Scott ?
#1707 [17:09] <lostcause> mcedit = great solution. thanks again all
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#1709 [17:09] <mib_8ylm54> but i have transfer it and w8 now 5 days
#1710 [17:10] <Kanegasi> so it did come out of your account?
#1711 [17:10] <martzo> how can I know if he is online ?
#1712 [17:10] <mib_8ylm54> no
#1713 [17:10] <mib_8ylm54> its fail because i want buy it one time, and not 2 times
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#1715 [17:11] <Kanegasi> if it didnt come out of your account and you did not get an email saying you paid, the payment failed. its been 5 days, so you should try again.
#1716 [17:11] <Kanegasi> you shouldn't be charged twice
#1717 [17:11] <mib_8ylm54> i have to buy the gift code ?
#1718 [17:11] <martzo> PLLLSSSS Can someone answer my question ?
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#1720 [17:12] <martzo> a mac play.
#1721 [17:12] <martzo> player
#1722 [17:12] <mib_8ylm54> or the normal MC ?
#1723 [17:12] <Kanegasi> just normal MC
#1724 [17:12] <Kanegasi> martzo: did you try force update?
#1725 [17:13] <martzo> force update ??
#1726 [17:13] <mib_8ylm54> oke i try it again , i dont know where i failed
#1727 [17:13] <martzo> I start my minecraft
#1728 [17:13] <martzo> i login
#1729 [17:13] <Kanegasi> hit the options button instead of login
#1730 [17:13] <martzo> It ask me if I want to upgrade I put yes
#1731 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> ??> martzo mac/gatekeeper
#1732 [17:13] <martzo> and itbug
#1733 [17:13] <VoxelHead> martzo: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1734 [17:13] <martzo> wh
#1735 [17:13] <Kanegasi> oh, forgot about that
#1736 [17:13] <Kanegasi> silly macs
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#1738 [17:15] <lukegb> Or right-click on Minecraft and click "Open" :P
#1739 [17:15] <lukegb> Wait, hmm, does that work
#1740 [17:15] <martzo> Sorry but i'm french , where is anywhere ??
#1741 [17:15] <Smanly-> toward the bottom of the first tab
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#1743 [17:17] <martzo> I can't find Anywhere in security
#1744 [17:18] <martzo> Have you a screen to help me ?
#1745 [17:18] <martzo> or anything a photo ?
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#1747 [17:19] <lukegb> http://answers.uchicago.edu/page.php?id=25481
#1748 [17:19] <martzo> Ok thx but
#1749 [17:19] <martzo> i Haven't the 3 button
#1750 [17:20] <lukegb> You're probably not running Mountain Lion then
#1751 [17:20] <lukegb> Listen to what Kanegasi said and click Force Update under Options inside the Minecraft launcher.
#1752 [17:21] <martzo> Mac OS X 10.7.4 panther
#1753 [17:21] <lukegb> Ye.. wha.
#1754 [17:21] <lukegb> 10.7 is Lion.
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#1757 [17:21] <lukegb> martzo: do you feel like using teamviewer?
#1758 [17:21] <Merpanator100> Why does it say internal server error when i try to join my server
#1759 [17:22] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: where's VoxelHead's list of stuff?
#1760 [17:22] <martzo> ok I try force update
#1761 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> try ??< index
#1762 [17:22] <martzo> don't ok
#1763 [17:22] <lukegb> ??< index
#1764 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> ?? index
#1765 [17:22] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#1767 [17:23] <lukegb> martzo: it didn't work?
#1768 [17:23] <martzo> no
#1769 [17:23] <lukegb> ?? teamviewer
#1770 [17:23] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1771 [17:23] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1772 [17:23] <martzo> it's stop a 18 %
#1773 [17:23] <martzo> i've teamviewer
#1774 [17:24] <martzo> it alway stop at 18 %
#1775 [17:29] <Kanegasi> martzo: by any chance, do you use avg for an antivirus?
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#1777 [17:30] <Kanegasi> ooo, nifty command index *saved*
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#1779 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Even niftier is when there's an expanded list with the actual entries too, which can be found at http://tny.cz/81717f5c
#1780 [17:33] <Kanegasi> aww yea
#1781 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> I'll be expanding that list sometime today too, with new/updated ones from over the past few weeks too
#1782 [17:34] <Kanegasi> HA, i was actually interested in what the pebcak entry said
#1783 [17:34] <Kanegasi> lol
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#1785 [17:36] <Kanegasi> i did not know hamachi was actually bad to use... im glad i stopped using it
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#1790 [17:42] <John> Hey im having trouble with a crash
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#1792 [17:42] <Guest13728> Hey im having trouble with a crash
#1793 [17:43] <Guest13728> Can anyone help
#1794 [17:43] <Kanegasi> what is the issue?
#1795 [17:43] * jamietech is now known as :jt|away
#1796 [17:43] <Kanegasi> how does it crash?
#1797 [17:43] <Guest13728> its says thsi in the top of the crash Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error This error has been saved to /Users/john/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-08-19_17.37.01-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPOR
#1798 [17:43] <zen> ?? pastebin
#1799 [17:43] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1802 [17:44] <Lukario45> !paid Dukefan2
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#1806 [17:45] <Guest13728> This is my crashhttp://pastebin.com/UJjpGJxh
#1807 [17:46] <NinjaKirby> I swear, v1.3.x cross compatibility for client-server connections is bad
#1808 [17:46] <Guest13728> http://pastebin.com/UJjpGJxh
#1809 [17:46] <Guest13728> can everyone one check that to see if u know how to fix it
#1810 [17:47] <Guest13728> Hello i need help
#1811 [17:47] <zen> Guest13728: looks like bad video card drivers, do you know what video card you have in your PC?
#1812 [17:48] <Guest13728> this happend on my lat mac to
#1813 [17:48] <Guest13728> last
#1814 [17:48] <Guest13728> how do i find out my video card
#1815 [17:48] <zen> You are on windows now though?
#1816 [17:48] <Guest13728> NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 256 MB but i play on fancy and far
#1817 [17:49] <Guest13728> No windows
#1818 [17:49] <Guest13728> Mac
#1819 [17:49] <zen> er
#1820 [17:49] <zen> That is an old mac then ._.
#1821 [17:49] <Guest13728> is fancy and far the problem
#1822 [17:49] <zen> Not nessasarily
#1823 [17:49] <Guest13728> Both of my mac have this crash
#1824 [17:49] <Guest13728> my mac is mid 2010
#1825 [17:49] <zen> ?? gpu/nvidia
#1826 [17:49] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1827 [17:50] <zen> You can look there ^
#1828 [17:50] <zen> But i have no clue about mac drivers :p
#1829 [17:50] <Guest13728> they dont have NINDIA
#1830 [17:51] <zen> What? that's the site for the manufacturer of your GPU
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#1832 [17:52] <John> im back im the guest with the crash
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#1834 [17:53] <John> They dont have mac drivers
#1835 [17:53] * John is now known as :Guest91677
#1836 [17:54] <zen> Guest91677: then there isn't much we can do, if you can't get any newer drivers then you might have to get a newer mac/pc
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#1838 [17:54] <Lukario45> :O
#1839 [17:54] <Guest91677> my mac is new
#1840 [17:54] <Guest91677> mid 2010
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#1842 [17:55] <zen> In technology terms that is quite old,
#1843 [17:55] <Guest91677> does anyone no how to fix thishttp://pastebin.com/3kmvKjCi
#1844 [17:55] <Guest91677> does anyone no how to fix this http://pastebin.com/3kmvKjCi
#1845 [17:55] <Merpanator100> Why does it say internal server error when i try to join my minecraft server
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#1847 [17:56] <Merpanator100> Why does it say internal server error when i try to join my minecraft server
#1848 [17:56] <Guest91677> does anyone no how to fix this http://pastebin.com/3kmvKjCi
#1849 [17:56] <zen> Guest91677: repeating yourself is not needed
#1850 [17:56] <zen> Same with you Merpanator100
#1851 [17:56] <Kanegasi> ?? dont/repeat
#1852 [17:56] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#1853 [17:56] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#1854 [17:56] <Merpanator100> Ok sorry no one was awnsering
#1855 [17:57] <Kanegasi> Merpanator100: did you try multiple servers?
#1856 [17:57] <Merpanator100> Yes
#1857 [17:57] <Guest91677> if i get new grapichs crad will that fix it
#1858 [17:57] <Guest91677> card
#1859 [17:57] <Kanegasi> Guest91677: when exactly does minecraft crash?
#1860 [17:57] <Merpanator100> Will all the other minecraft servers work accept the one i play on
#1861 [17:57] <Guest91677> when i press a button
#1862 [17:57] <zen> Guest91677: you are using a macbook, you might have difficulty with that,
#1863 [17:57] <Guest91677> if crashed on my imac to
#1864 [17:58] <Guest91677> *it
#1865 [17:58] <Kanegasi> a button? what button? does it crash when you join a server?
#1866 [17:58] <Kanegasi> or crash when started?
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#1868 [17:58] <Guest91677> when i open a chest prees e slash or open crafting tables and etc
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#1870 [17:59] <Kanegasi> does the server you play on have custom items?
#1871 [17:59] <Kanegasi> looking at your error, you may be crashing because the server is sending data for items from mods you dont have
#1872 [17:59] <Guest91677> it crashes on every server and even single player
#1873 [17:59] <Kanegasi> oh
#1874 [18:00] <Guest91677> i do have hack but it crashes without them
#1875 [18:00] <Kanegasi> hack? explain
#1876 [18:00] <Guest91677> nudous
#1877 [18:00] <Kanegasi> 0.o
#1878 [18:00] <Kanegasi> just a mod?
#1879 [18:01] <Guest91677> it crashes without nudous any way
#1880 [18:01] <Guest91677> ya
#1881 [18:01] <Guest91677> a client
#1882 [18:01] <Kanegasi> googling what you said, you are using a hacked minecraft, which is unsupported here. use an official minecraft client
#1883 [18:01] <Kanegasi> cant help you
#1884 [18:02] <Guest91677> it crashing on a regualr minecraft client to
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#1886 [18:02] <Guest91677> it does it with both
#1887 [18:02] <mtjaxter> hello, I am wondering, how does one find out how long it might take to convert a world?
#1888 [18:03] <Kanegasi> guest: did you try with a clean minecraft? completely deleting .minecraft and redownloading the launcher?
#1889 [18:03] <Guest91677> Yes
#1890 [18:03] <Guest91677> many times
#1891 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> Guest91677: What is your minecraft username?
#1892 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> Normally it's only a matter of seconds to convert a world
#1893 [18:03] <Kanegasi> mtjaxter: if you are updating a server, just replace the minecraft_server binary, no conversions required, unless its a very old world
#1894 [18:03] <Guest91677> johnSANCHIRICO
#1895 [18:03] <mtjaxter> I mean if I do it on my own computer on single player lol
#1896 [18:04] <Kanegasi> what version was the world last used on?
#1897 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> !paid johnSANCHIRICO
#1898 [18:04] <mtjaxter> yes kane, its very old, was wanting to see an old world from yesterday lol
#1899 [18:04] <mtjaxter> probably 1.6 or 1.7.3 or so
#1900 [18:04] <Kanegasi> it shouldnt take long
#1901 [18:04] <mtjaxter> erh, what if it says I dont have permission to do something
#1902 [18:04] <mtjaxter> if its single player? lol
#1903 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> Guest91677: Get rid of any cracked ones, and start from afresh \with the normal Minecraft one that you download from minecraft.net
#1904 [18:05] <Kanegasi> dont have permission? in single player? was that a minecraft message or a windows message?
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#1906 [18:05] <mtjaxter> You do not have permission to use this command.
#1907 [18:05] <mtjaxter> in game lol
#1908 [18:05] <Guest91677> i did many times it works then if i X out then come back to minecraft it crashes
#1909 [18:05] <mtjaxter> on single player
#1910 [18:06] <Kanegasi> i thought world conversions happen outside of a world at the selection screen 0.o
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#1912 [18:06] <zen> mtjaxter: what are you attempting to do? what command?
#1913 [18:06] <mtjaxter> gamemode 1
#1914 [18:07] <zen> You are opped on the server correct?
#1915 [18:07] <mtjaxter> it works if you create a world and turn on gamecheats but if you convert, there is no option
#1916 [18:07] <mtjaxter> its not a server lol
#1917 [18:07] <mtjaxter> its single player
#1918 [18:07] <Guest91677> can my crash be fixed
#1919 [18:07] <Kanegasi> aha, when your world converted to 1.3.2, it was given the default "no cheats" option
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#1922 [18:08] <zen> mtjaxter: well yes.... old worlds won't have that enabled, you can probably use NTBedit to edit the level.dat and add the option
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#1925 [18:08] <John> hthello
#1926 [18:08] <nicobear3> hello
#1927 [18:08] <Kanegasi> you keep getting changed to guest because john is taken, use another name
#1928 [18:08] <Guest84852> Can anyone fix my crash
#1929 [18:08] <mtjaxter> ah it works if I turn to lan :)
#1930 [18:09] <Kanegasi> awesome, good to know that mtjaxter
#1931 [18:09] <Kanegasi> ill have to remember that for old worlds
#1932 [18:09] <nicobear3> i just bought minecraft and i can't seem to be able able to download the game ..... please help
#1933 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> Kanegasi: I have to go out and help someone with apssword issues, but the cheats thing can be edited by unzipping the level.dat file and editing the resulting file with a hex editor
#1934 [18:09] <johnSANCHIRICO> Can anyone fix my crash
#1935 [18:10] <nicobear3> internet explorer is saying can't download the file.....
#1936 [18:10] <nicobear3> what do i do?
#1937 [18:10] <zen> Use a better browser
#1938 [18:10] <zen> Like chrome or firefox
#1939 [18:10] <nicobear3> and if it can't be downloaded can i get a refund?
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#1941 [18:11] <johnSANCHIRICO> Does anyone know how to fix my crash
#1942 [18:11] <Kanegasi> ??> nicobear3 win/client
#1943 [18:11] <VoxelHead> nicobear3: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1944 [18:11] <Kanegasi> try that link
#1945 [18:12] <johnSANCHIRICO> Can anyone fix my crash
#1946 [18:12] <nicobear3> thanks mate
#1947 [18:12] <zen> nicobear3: if the problem exists that you cannot use your PC then no. But blame mojang for not signing their launcher >.>
#1948 [18:12] <Kanegasi> john: im not sure. our best suggestion is to try a fresh official install, but thats not working. not sure why nvidia isnt giving you drivers either
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#1950 [18:12] <zen> Kanegasi: because he's on a mac that's why :p
#1951 [18:12] <Kanegasi> nicobear3: another, more preferable option is not to use IE
#1952 [18:12] <Kanegasi> try firefox or chrome
#1953 [18:12] <johnSANCHIRICO> ok ill c\try to get in touch with them
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#1956 [18:13] <nicobear3> it seems to be downloaded with firefix thanks guys!
#1957 [18:13] <Kanegasi> awesome!
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#1962 [18:15] <Scott> Gah
#1963 [18:15] <Scott> you guys must have said my name because some guy just kept PMing me over and over.
#1964 [18:15] <Kanegasi> lol macs
#1965 [18:16] <Kanegasi> [17:09:08] <lutzee> martzo, i'm not a mac user, perhaps Scott is around and can help? :)
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#1967 [18:16] <Scott> macs ftw
#1968 [18:16] <Fishfish0001> Whoop whoop
#1969 [18:16] <Scott> mac users are not always ftw though
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#1975 [18:20] <Kanegasi> ah, looking through that voxelhead list more, i did not know the java 6 command was changed
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#1977 [18:23] <Kanegasi> may i suggest that the win/reinst voxelhead response also mention not deleting servers.dat file? i know some people have a ton of servers with no backup info file of the addresses
#1978 [18:24] <Kanegasi> i learned that myself the hard way. the owner of the server i normally play on wasnt on when i deleted that file
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#1981 [18:27] <Kit> I am trying to register for a new account and it is saying my email is already in use
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#1983 [18:28] <Kanegasi> are you sure you havent registered already?
#1984 [18:28] <Kanegasi> does anyone know of your email?
#1985 [18:29] <Kanegasi> did you type the email correctly?
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#1987 [18:29] <Hoover> just installed Minecraft onto a dell xps laptop for my son.. Intel chipset video, but get can't find accelerated opengl video driver error message when launching minecraft.Any tips?
#1988 [18:30] <Kit> My son signed up on our Mac and I am trying to sign my other son up on my laptop
#1989 [18:30] <lutzee> Kit, you will need to use a new email address for the new account
#1990 [18:30] <Kanegasi> hoover: try going to intel's website and updating the video driver
#1991 [18:30] <lutzee> You cannot register 2 accounts on one email address
#1992 [18:30] <lutzee> ?? gpu/intel
#1993 [18:30] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1994 [18:30] <lutzee> ^ Hoover
#1995 [18:31] <Hoover> cool. I attempted update driver through microsoft xp driver properties and it couldn't find a new driver. I'll go straight to Intel and give it a shot.
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#1997 [18:32] <lutzee> Hoover, the microsoft app to find new drivers _never_ works
#1998 [18:32] <Hoover> thanks. I'll let you know... ...
#1999 [18:32] <Kanegasi> it works only if microsoft keeps up with their signing and distribution, which rarely happens
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#2001 [18:33] <JohnSANCHIRICO> CAn anyone help with my crash
#2002 [18:33] <Kanegasi> they've gotten better with 7's driver updates
#2003 [18:33] <JohnSANCHIRICO> http://pastebin.com/3kmvKjCi
#2004 [18:33] <JohnSANCHIRICO> Kanesgasi my drviers are up to date
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#2006 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> JohnSANCHIRICO mac/reinst
#2007 [18:34] <VoxelHead> JohnSANCHIRICO: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2008 [18:34] <VoxelHead> JohnSANCHIRICO: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2009 [18:35] <Kanegasi> john: what version is your mac
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#2012 [18:35] <JohnSANCHIRICO> 10.8
#2013 [18:35] <Kanegasi> when you looked for nvidia drivers, did you try http://www.geforce.com/drivers
#2014 [18:36] <Kanegasi> use the autodetect
#2015 [18:36] <JohnSANCHIRICO> ya na di called them the apple and they says it does it in the sofware update
#2016 [18:36] <Kanegasi> and you also deleted everything minecraft and used the above reinstall instructions?
#2017 [18:36] <JohnSANCHIRICO> ya i called them then apple and they says it does it in the sofware update
#2018 [18:36] <JohnSANCHIRICO> ya
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#2021 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Did you try deleting the contents of your ~/library/application support/minecraft folder (saving saves)?
#2022 [18:41] <Keno> Okay well I've been having this problem for about a week now. I can't chose another skin for my avatar on Minecraft because everytime I try and upload nothing happens. How do I fix this?
#2023 [18:41] <Kanegasi> i think this might help john http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda-mac-driver.html
#2024 [18:41] <Kanegasi> it supports your 330m geforce card
#2025 [18:42] <Keno> I have a pc not a mac
#2026 [18:42] <Kanegasi> keno: what is the method of upload
#2027 [18:42] <Kanegasi> and that wasnt for you
#2028 [18:42] <Kanegasi> keno: are you using the idevice app or the website?
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#2030 [18:43] <Keno> Oh my method is go to skin dex then I click upload to minecraft.net. Then is says "change your skin to this?" then I say yes. Then the file chosen is blank and i have no skin
#2031 [18:44] <JohnSANCHIRICO> keno try doing it manuly
#2032 [18:44] <Kanegasi> use the "download to computer" link instead, then go to http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#2033 [18:45] <Keno> I did. I tried saving the skin to my desk top and then Uploading it from minecraft.net and still nothing.
#2034 [18:45] <cosmicvoyager> Player names autocomplete no longer works in 1.3...is ths being worked on?
#2035 [18:45] <Keno> But what is strange is I still seem to have my old skin I uploaded roughly 5 moths ago
#2036 [18:45] <Keno> And minecraft.net says there is no file chosen
#2037 [18:46] <Kanegasi> because http://www.minecraft.net/profile doesnt show your current skin
#2038 [18:46] <Kanegasi> your skin stays the same until you change it
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#2040 [18:46] <Keno> Ahh.
#2041 [18:46] <Kanegasi> "no file chosen" means you didnt click that button to choose the skin to upload
#2042 [18:47] <Keno> Well I thought it was because there was something wrong with my java
#2043 [18:47] <Keno> then I downloaded the new update and still it didn't work
#2044 [18:47] <Keno> could it be the source of where I download my skins?
#2045 [18:47] <Kanegasi> when you click "choose file", select the skin, and make sure the "no file chosen" message goes away before hitting upload
#2046 [18:48] <Keno> Okay
#2047 [18:48] <Keno> I will try that now/
#2048 [18:48] <Keno> .*
#2049 [18:48] <Kanegasi> cosmicvoyager: i thought that was a mod thing
#2050 [18:49] <Kanegasi> i dont ever remember autocomplete in minecraft chat
#2051 [18:50] <Hoover> Aargh. found driver for Intel 915GM on intel site. Downloaded. went through it all and they gave me an OEM error. won't install. go to manufacturer's website (Dell). Just got latest driver from Dell. dated 2006 !?! Gotta reboot. I'll be back
#2052 [18:50] <Keno> It's not going away when I click Choose file
#2053 [18:50] <cosmicvoyager> i am constantly using names in commanda and it is a huge hassle typing long weird names over and over
#2054 [18:51] <Kanegasi> cosmicvoyager: but, autocomplete isnt in vanilla minecraft
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#2057 [18:51] <cosmicvoyager> ok so its bukkit i guess
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#2059 [18:51] <Kanegasi> nevermind
#2060 [18:52] <Kanegasi> i checked the version history
#2061 [18:52] <Kanegasi> 1.2.4 added that :/
#2062 [18:52] <Kanegasi> but bukkit could be interfering. try /join #bukkit
#2063 [18:52] <Kanegasi> see if they can help
#2064 [18:52] <Keno> It just changed back to default
#2065 [18:53] <Kanegasi> when you click the "choose file" button, a folder screen pops up. do you click on the skin file, then click open on the bottom right?
#2066 [18:53] <Keno> yes
#2067 [18:53] <Kanegasi> hmm
#2068 [18:54] <Keno> then it appears on minecraft.net as the png file
#2069 [18:54] <Kanegasi> go to the file in a normal folder and open it
#2070 [18:54] <Kanegasi> see if it actually has anything
#2071 [18:54] <Keno> Like make a new one and just put in there?
#2072 [18:55] <Kanegasi> no, go to where you downloaded it outside of the browser, and open it in paint or a picture viewer
#2073 [18:55] <Keno> it opens fine in paint
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#2075 [18:56] <Kanegasi> you see the skin and everything?
#2076 [18:56] <Keno> yes
#2077 [18:56] <Kanegasi> not sure why its not uploading. what browser?
#2078 [18:56] <Keno> google chrome
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#2080 [18:57] <Keno> Try internet explorer?
#2081 [18:57] <Kanegasi> yea
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#2085 [19:00] <Keno> Sorry gonna try it now
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#2088 [19:04] <Keno> So far I've tried manually doing it and Internet Explorer and it didn't seem to work
#2089 [19:05] <Kanegasi> just to verify the process one more time: choose file -> select skin -> click open -> click upload
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#2091 [19:05] <Kanegasi> any errors from the browser?
#2092 [19:05] <Kanegasi> what does it do once you click upload?
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#2095 [19:06] <Keno> Nope and say its been uploaded
#2096 [19:07] <Hoover> No love. Installed last driver available from Dell website because Intel refused to install generic 915GM driver over OEM version. Now what?
#2097 [19:07] <Keno> and that it will take a few seconds for it to update
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#2099 [19:07] <Kanegasi> you have logged completely out of minecraft and then back in after uploading?
#2100 [19:07] <Kanegasi> Hoover: not sure what the issue is
#2101 [19:08] <Kanegasi> most companies are very annoying about laptops
#2102 [19:08] <Kanegasi> OEM and silly stuff like that
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#2104 [19:08] <Keno> yes
#2105 [19:08] <Hoover> Sorry, was here a few minutes ago. Minecraft gives "can't find acceleragted OpenGL mode" on dell xps m140 laptop
#2106 [19:09] <Kanegasi> oh, i remember your issue
#2107 [19:09] <Kanegasi> i meant the dell/intel thing
#2108 [19:09] <Keno> Yes I completely logged off
#2109 [19:09] <Kanegasi> i used to own a laptop with an nvidia card and nvidia didnt like installing default drivers
#2110 [19:09] <Kanegasi> had to use another website
#2111 [19:11] <Hoover> Any suggestion on how to con Intel 915GM driver to install?
#2112 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Tried downloading the zip file from intel's site and going through the device manager?
#2113 [19:11] <Kanegasi> this might help
#2114 [19:11] <Kanegasi> ??> Hoover win/gpu/intel
#2115 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Hoover: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#2116 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Hoover: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#2117 [19:12] <Hoover> Will try VoxelHead. And then jump to zip strategy GrayVulpine.
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#2120 [19:13] <skyrimpro02> I need to cancel my subcription
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#2122 [19:13] <Kanegasi> uhh
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#2124 [19:15] <Hoover> VoxelHead: BAT file reports in error text file the following "Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#2125 [19:15] <Kanegasi> :O
#2126 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Then you didn't download the minecraft.jar file from minecraft.net/download
#2127 [19:16] * lutzee is now known as :zen
#2128 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh, whoops.
#2129 [19:16] <Hoover> Downloaded minecraft launcher little thing from website. first time launched it brought down bunch of jar stuff.
#2130 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Never mind. YOu need to place the file in the same place as minecraft.exe
#2131 [19:17] <Hoover> okay, be right back
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#2135 [19:26] <Chonketta> ARGH
#2136 [19:26] <Chonketta> I drove a rail line down at level 8-11 where the diamonds are... all good except the part where you sometimes CATCH FIRE riding it
#2137 [19:27] <Chonketta> w_t_f
#2138 [19:27] <Hoover> Happy happy joy joy. BAT file that throttles down Java worked great. Thanks, guys.
#2139 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> Chonketta, is that due to tectonic plate movement and magma emerging through fissures?
#2140 [19:29] <Kanegasi> thats great hoover!
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#2142 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> I had a world where I drove some railway lines through fields of lava. I'll see if something similar happens on that
#2143 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> I had a world where I drove some railway lines through fields of lava. I'll see if something similar happens on that
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#2146 [19:32] <Chonketta> ninjakirby, yeah must be ha ha
#2147 [19:32] <Chonketta> I thought it was about my rail moving up and down a few levels... but just blew up on a long flat, crazy
#2148 [19:33] <Chonketta> diskdaemon bring a bucket :)
#2149 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> good advice there
#2150 [19:37] <Keman333> can anyone help me troubleshoot my Minecraft and why I cant seem to get it to work now? I have a crash report
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#2153 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> Yes, please paste the crash report to pastebin.com
#2154 [19:41] <Keman333> ok this is after I reinstalled Minecraft and Java
#2155 [19:41] <Keman333> http://pastebin.com/x6QeiPXs
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#2158 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Keman333: Is that when running a server?
#2159 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Keman333: Is bukkit involved?
#2160 [19:45] <Keman333> no I do not run a server
#2161 [19:46] <Keman333> bukkit... not that I know of I use no mods at the moment and it crashes as soon as it tries to open my single player game
#2162 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> Keman333: There will be some lock files left over from a previous time, that are causing the issue. Look for and delete any files that end with .lck
#2163 [19:47] <bela141> I let my sister play Minecraft on my account because she doesn't have an account... She accidentally clicked to update and exited it... Now when ever I go to play, I click "Not Now" And it freezes...
#2164 [19:47] <Keman333> ah I see I will look into that thank you!
#2165 [19:47] <zen> bela141, you'll have to make it update, some files have been deleted
#2166 [19:48] <bela141> Ok... Thank you.
#2167 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> ??> bela141 win/reinst
#2168 [19:48] <VoxelHead> bela141: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2169 [19:48] <VoxelHead> bela141: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2170 [19:48] <Keman333> now I just need to remember how to search by file types >.>
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#2172 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> Keman333 *.lck
#2173 [19:50] <Wrinkled> Hello?
#2174 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> hi
#2175 [19:51] <Wrinkled> Are you mojang?
#2176 [19:51] <Wrinkled> With
#2177 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> No, we are not, but we can help in certain ways
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#2180 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#2182 [19:54] <Wrinkled> Is there a email so I can contact mojang?
#2183 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Wrinkled - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2185 [19:54] <Wrinkled> Thank you
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#2187 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> You can contact them via their web form (which emails to them) but there is a three month delay on replies
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#2190 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Wrinkled: Is it something we may be able to help you with instead, right now?
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#2192 [19:56] <emjae26> is there a way to go back to version 1.2.5
#2193 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? oldversion
#2194 [19:56] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2195 [19:56] <emjae26> old version... my son updated and i didnt save :o(
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#2200 [20:01] <zaji> Keep getting kicked off for not enough memory..after 5 mionutes
#2201 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> How much are you currently using?
#2202 [20:02] <zaji> not sure. I just doenloaded game a couple of days ago and this keeps happening. How do I find out?
#2203 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> THe following should help - show the spoiler for it and read carefully. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-6-updated-on-aug-6/#cl
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#2209 [20:10] <Darkenvy> I NEED HELP FROM A LINUX PERSON
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#2211 [20:10] <Darkenvy> I cant get minecraft running even though I verified both java and openGL works
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#2215 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> Darkenvy: Sorry, it seems that we have nobody in here with linux experience capable of troubleshooting things for you at the moment
#2216 [20:14] * PhoneAway is now known as :PhoneBook
#2217 [20:16] <Darkenvy> Okay lets pretend im not on linux. what causes minecraft to not load past the login screen?
#2218 [20:16] <Darkenvy> I do not know for sure what the issue is
#2219 [20:16] <Darkenvy> it may not be linux related
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#2221 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> A crash report can help to find that out http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#2222 [20:17] * tips48|away is now known as :tips48
#2223 [20:18] <Darkenvy> I didnt get a crash report. its just a black screen
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#2226 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> Have you tried starting it in the manner mentioned on that page?
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#2228 [20:20] <Deathspawn> running in terminal usually helps too, depending on what launcher you are using. default launcher spits everything to terminal, so you can see what happens when something crashes.
#2229 [20:20] <Deathspawn> and he leaves
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#2231 [20:20] <PhoneBook> Solution: Get windows
#2232 [20:20] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2232 [20:20] <Deathspawn> PhoneBook: that's a terrible solution.
#2233 [20:20] <1AVAAKUE6> PhoneBook: thats not a solution
#2234 [20:21] <PhoneBook> Nevermind :P
#2235 [20:21] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: install 64 bit java
#2236 [20:22] <1AVAAKUE6> DiskDaemon: was it you who tried to get it working on linux the other day or was it someone else
#2237 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> It wouldn't have been me - I try to not confuse the issue by attempting to help with what I'm not familiar with
#2238 [20:23] <1AVAAKUE6> mustve been someone else
#2239 [20:24] <1AVAAKUE6> but in my experience, it does work on ubuntu and ubuntulike systems with the latest openjdk 7, but you have to update lwjgl
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#2256 [20:50] <abcdie11> how do i make a multiplayer server
#2257 [20:51] <abcdie11> how do i make a multiplayer server
#2258 [20:51] <abcdie11> hello anyone here
#2259 [20:51] <1AVAAKUE6> its rather complicated
#2260 [20:51] <abcdie11> ????????
#2261 [20:52] <1AVAAKUE6> first, you'd need the server software (get it on the minecraft.net download section)
#2262 [20:52] <abcdie11> so how do i
#2263 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> Instructions though are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2264 [20:52] <1AVAAKUE6> then follow this stuff ^
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#2271 [21:02] <jMolle> hello all :)
#2272 [21:02] <jMolle> having somewhat of a problem. hopefully someone can help
#2273 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> What details can you give us about the problem?
#2274 [21:03] <jMolle> i'm doing a pastebin on the chrasreport.
#2275 [21:04] <jMolle> 2 seconds
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#2278 [21:06] <Payne> My son is having an issue logging into a server. It tells him "a user with same username is already logged in". His session lagged earlier and he has not been able to get on since then. How do we fix this?
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#2280 [21:06] <Kanegasi> Payne: wait a bit
#2281 [21:06] <Kanegasi> the original copy will time out eventually
#2282 [21:06] <Payne> ok.
#2283 [21:07] <jMolle> http://pastebin.com/b6H13ADE
#2284 [21:07] <Payne> How long will this take? It was about 3 hours ago when this happened?
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#2286 [21:07] <jMolle> if someone would be willing to take a look at this. i'm extremly greatful
#2287 [21:07] * Disori|off is now known as :Disori
#2288 [21:07] <Kanegasi> the server probably didnt properly disconnect him... 3 hours? he should be able to connect by now :/
#2289 [21:08] <Kanegasi> what is giving the message? main minecraft login or server joining?
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#2291 [21:08] <jMolle> when i'm loggin on to minecraft
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#2293 [21:08] <Payne> Joining the server. We tried changing his password and it didn't work.
#2294 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> jMolle: Okay first, let's go with a reinstall
#2295 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> jMolle win/reinst
#2296 [21:08] <VoxelHead> jMolle: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2297 [21:08] <VoxelHead> jMolle: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2298 [21:09] <Kanegasi> then for some reason, the server is still holding on to his name thinking he is still connected. do you know anyone on the server? can they still see him there?
#2299 [21:09] <jMolle> ive done that.
#2300 [21:10] <jMolle> this has happened before. i was then told it had something to do with me running the version 7 java
#2301 [21:10] <Payne> His friends tried to teleport to him and said Player not found.
#2302 [21:10] <jMolle> so i installed the latest version of java 6
#2303 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> jMolle: RIght, let's get some system information about your machine next
#2304 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> jMolle win/dxdiag
#2305 [21:10] <VoxelHead> jMolle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2306 [21:10] <VoxelHead> jMolle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2307 [21:10] <Kanegasi> did you uninstall 7?
#2308 [21:10] <Kanegasi> oops, nick mention fail
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#2310 [21:11] <Kanegasi> Payne: if you know the server owner, have him restart it
#2311 [21:11] <Payne> ok. thanks so much.
#2312 [21:12] <Payne> we will try that now.
#2313 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> jMolle: I've seen a few reports that simply restarting the computer fixes the problem for some people
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#2315 [21:12] * GreyVulpine can't remember, but the 'can't create context' message is usually video drivers or java
#2315 [21:12] <jMolle> ok :/ thanks
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#2317 [21:13] <jMolle> i'll try. ive done that several times though
#2318 [21:13] <jMolle> http://pastebin.com/NN18hK2P, thats the pastebin on the specs
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#2320 [21:14] <Kanegasi> dude, your entire computer is a virus from ReBoot
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#2322 [21:14] <Kanegasi> love that show... sorry for the offtopic
#2323 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> jMolle - I'd start with trying to install these: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#2324 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> jMolle: Has it worked before on that machine recently?
#2325 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, uninstall java completely, reinstall with java 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#2326 [21:15] <jMolle> yes.
#2327 [21:15] <jMolle> just recently it started doing this
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#2329 [21:16] <Kanegasi> interesting question about that dxdiag, is "DX Setup Parameters: Not found" normal?
#2330 [21:16] <jMolle> reinstalling java will let me start it like 5 times or so. then this happends again
#2331 [21:17] <jMolle> woul'd be nice to find out what is causing this. could it be a virus ?
#2332 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Kanegasi - Nothing to be concerned about
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#2334 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> jMolle - Running any mods?
#2335 [21:17] <jMolle> no. purely vanilla
#2336 [21:17] <Kanegasi> jMolle: i asked a bit earlier, but not directly. you did uninstall all java versions before installing 6, right?
#2337 [21:17] <jMolle> yes.
#2338 [21:18] <jMolle> uninstalled everything concerning minecraft and java
#2339 [21:18] <jMolle> then installed java 6 again. downloaded a new launchfile for minecraft eaven
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#2341 [21:20] <jMolle> well.. thanks for trying guys. i apreciate it.
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#2343 [21:21] <1AVAAKUE6> jMolle: you tried updating your graphics driver?
#2344 [21:21] <jMolle> no. could that have something to do with it ?
#2345 [21:22] <1AVAAKUE6> its almost certainly the problem
#2346 [21:23] <Kanegasi> yea, problems with opengl are usually solved with video driver updates
#2347 [21:23] <Kanegasi> i missed all the mentions of opengl at the bottom of the crash
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#2349 [21:23] <1AVAAKUE6> jMolle: the first link that GreyVulpine mentions should do it for you
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#2352 [21:25] <jMolle> downloading it now :)
#2353 [21:25] <jMolle> lets see what happends
#2354 [21:26] <1AVAAKUE6> -.-
#2355 [21:26] <1AVAAKUE6> generally, you're not going to have much luck if you don't follow instructions the first time around
#2356 [21:26] <1AVAAKUE6> life lesson ^
#2357 [21:27] <jMolle> sorry. i missed it in the heat of the moment. he wrote that when i was doing a pastebin
#2358 [21:31] <jMolle> well. that worked.
#2359 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> well done
#2360 [21:31] <jMolle> thanks alot for putting up with my ignorance and newbieness
#2361 [21:31] <jMolle> i really apreciate it
#2362 [21:32] <jMolle> amazing that you guys are doing this volontairly
#2363 [21:32] <Kanegasi> i tend to be bored, and good with problem solving
#2364 [21:33] <sion> so uh, I'm having a problem with skins, and not the kind that's being complained about lately..
#2365 [21:33] * Denizen is now known as :Everyone
#2366 [21:33] <jMolle> whats the trouble sion ?
#2367 [21:33] <Kanegasi> skin not showing up when you enter a world? skin upload not working?
#2368 [21:33] <sion> nope, nothing like that
#2369 [21:33] <Kanegasi> your game of shirts vs skins doesnt work?
#2370 [21:34] <sion> it's more like "well where's the file?"
#2371 [21:34] <Kanegasi> did you make or download a waldo skin?
#2372 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> which file?
#2373 [21:34] <sion> a while back I found a skin, edited it, and uploaded it via the profile tab on minecraft.net
#2374 [21:35] <sion> found that even on other computers it'd still load up the skin despite not actually having it, so I was like "oh, most work like steam synch or something"
#2375 [21:35] <Kanegasi> it wont show in the profile tab or give you some kind of upload successful message
#2376 [21:35] <sion> well now I've lost the original .png of that skin, and it still works, but I was wondering if there's any way I could get it for safekeeping?
#2377 [21:35] <Kanegasi> your skin is on minecraft.net. any place you login to will show it
#2378 [21:36] <sion> and I've checked, but it doesn't say I have any skins uploaded
#2379 [21:36] <Kanegasi> it wont say
#2380 [21:36] <sion> like, even the char.png is default
#2381 [21:36] <jMolle> yes
#2382 [21:36] <jMolle> thats perfectly normal
#2383 [21:36] <Kanegasi> your custom skin is on minecraft.net not in the local game files
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#2385 [21:36] <sion> right
#2386 [21:36] <jMolle> it gets downloaded when you connect to a server
#2387 [21:37] <Kanegasi> your best bet to get another .png file is just to third person and remake it
#2388 [21:37] <sion> man, that sucks
#2389 [21:37] <sion> took me forever to edit the original
#2390 [21:37] <Kanegasi> at least you can see it on yourself
#2391 [21:37] <sion> though I found the original on the skindex archives
#2392 [21:37] <sion> yeah
#2393 [21:37] <Kanegasi> it should be relatively easy given the resolution
#2394 [21:37] <jMolle> you coul'd use dropbox or something similar to store the next one
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#2397 [21:38] <sion> well, I was just wondering if there was any way to get that .png for safekeeping, but I guess not
#2398 [21:38] <sion> thanks anyway
#2399 [21:38] <Kanegasi> np
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#2405 [21:46] <`MaLeFiCo`|`Afk`> 4:O
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#2410 [21:53] <AngryPie> What is wrong with 1.3.2? Slow, jerky, interferes with joining previous server. PFFFF! Want to revert - have Win xp - any ideas?
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#2412 [21:53] <zaji> still having trouble with memory. getting kicked off after 5 minutes
#2413 [21:53] <zaji> got an error screen about minecraft crashing
#2414 [21:53] <zaji> got an error screen about minecraft crashing
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#2416 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> zaji pastebin
#2417 [21:54] <VoxelHead> zaji: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2420 [22:00] <zaji> not being taken to any site
#2421 [22:00] <Kanegasi> just copy the whole error and post it on pastebin. its the only way we can see it
#2422 [22:01] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: youve installed 64 bit java?
#2423 [22:01] <zaji> yes
#2424 [22:02] <Kanegasi> how much ram do you have?
#2425 [22:02] <1AVAAKUE6> are you using the download launcher?
#2426 [22:02] <zaji> wait..maybe it's 32 bit.
#2427 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Could we find out what his error message says?
#2428 [22:03] <1AVAAKUE6> DiskDaemon: its an out of memory error
#2429 [22:03] <1AVAAKUE6> he has a 64 bit system
#2430 [22:03] <1AVAAKUE6> qed, hes probably not using 64 bit java
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#2433 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/64bitjava
#2434 [22:04] <zaji> ok...work with me here. I'm an idiot. What's the download launcher?
#2435 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> Get Win64 java here: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u30-b12/jre-6u30-windows-x64.exe
#2436 [22:06] <Kanegasi> the download launcher is the minecraft.exe you originally downloaded from minecraft.net
#2437 [22:06] <Kanegasi> DiskDaemon: that link is outdated. it should be 6u33
#2438 [22:07] <1AVAAKUE6> oracles stupid website wants you to register to download old versions
#2439 [22:07] <zaji> can you resend the link for 64 java. That one didn't work
#2440 [22:07] <Kanegasi> register? since when?
#2441 [22:07] <Kanegasi> ?? java/1.6
#2442 [22:07] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#2444 [22:07] <1AVAAKUE6> Kanegasi: only for old versions
#2445 [22:07] <1AVAAKUE6> (i.e. not the latest version of 6 or 7)
#2446 [22:07] <Kanegasi> oh
#2447 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> Or even update 34 now, from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#2448 [22:07] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: grab the latest version of 7 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html
#2449 [22:08] <1AVAAKUE6> the windows x64 entry
#2450 [22:08] <Kanegasi> no, not 7
#2451 [22:08] <1AVAAKUE6> 7 works fine, I assure you
#2452 [22:08] <zaji> i heard 7 cuases problems
#2453 [22:08] <1AVAAKUE6> uninstall 6 first
#2454 [22:08] <Kanegasi> ?? java/1.7
#2455 [22:08] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2456 [22:08] <1AVAAKUE6> ive been using 7 for over a year
#2457 [22:08] <1AVAAKUE6> Kanegasi: I probably set that factoid
#2458 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> Yes, 7 works fine. Sometimes peoples computer can have other issues that result in causing java 7 issues, but are fine once fixed up
#2459 [22:09] <1AVAAKUE6> there did used to be some issues with it
#2460 [22:09] <1AVAAKUE6> its been a long time since ive seen them
#2461 [22:09] <zaji> I have Java 2.1.1 currently. Is that the wrong one?
#2462 [22:09] <1AVAAKUE6> weird connection issues and such. uninstalling old versions of 6 fixed it
#2463 [22:09] <Kanegasi> 2.1.1?
#2464 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> It was the ipv6 issue that people were experiencing with Java 7, which has since been diagnosed with working results
#2465 [22:09] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: 2.1.1 is javaFX
#2466 [22:09] <1AVAAKUE6> you know what, just uninstall everything with java in the name
#2467 [22:10] <zaji> yes java fx2.1.1 is that right or wrong?
#2468 [22:10] <1AVAAKUE6> including javaFX 2.1.1
#2469 [22:10] <Kanegasi> i use 6 since my mouse is incompatible in minecraft with 7, so i just feel its safe to point people to 6
#2470 [22:10] <zaji> ok. will do now
#2471 [22:10] <1AVAAKUE6> then get the latest version of 7
#2472 [22:10] <1AVAAKUE6> Kanegasi: update lwjgl
#2473 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/javara
#2474 [22:10] <1AVAAKUE6> minecraft uses a retardedly old version of it
#2475 [22:10] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2476 [22:10] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2477 [22:10] <Kanegasi> isnt that inside the minecraft folder downloaded by the launcher?
#2478 [22:10] <1AVAAKUE6> DiskDaemon: his version isnt broken so he should uninstall it normally
#2479 [22:11] <1AVAAKUE6> Kanegasi: its in %appdata%\.minecraft
#2480 [22:11] <1AVAAKUE6> \bin\natives I think
#2481 [22:11] <Kanegasi> i know where it is
#2482 [22:11] <1AVAAKUE6> what OS are you using
#2483 [22:11] <1AVAAKUE6> I don't think its "POTATO"
#2484 [22:12] <Kanegasi> so, everytime i force update minecraft, i need to replace that file if i want to use java 7?
#2485 [22:12] <zaji> windows 7
#2486 [22:12] <1AVAAKUE6> only if you force update
#2487 [22:12] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: I know what OS you're using lol
#2488 [22:12] <Kanegasi> i think the troubleshooting switched to me somehow
#2489 [22:13] <zaji> sorry..doing 6 things t once
#2490 [22:13] <Kanegasi> and yes, actually, i connect to irc using a potato
#2491 [22:13] <1AVAAKUE6> hokay.jpg
#2492 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> You know where you're at, with a potato.
#2493 [22:14] <Kanegasi> lol
#2494 [22:14] <Kanegasi> i just noticed 1avaakue6 versioned me
#2495 [22:14] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: my personal recommendation is to use the latest version of 7
#2496 [22:14] <Kanegasi> forgot i had sounds off
#2497 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> I concur with using the latest version of 7
#2498 [22:15] <1AVAAKUE6> we've been sort of trying to move the channel to supporting 7 over 6
#2499 [22:15] <1AVAAKUE6> I have at least
#2500 [22:15] <Kanegasi> where would i obtain this newer lwjgl, if i were to mess with my currently working minecraft?
#2501 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> From lwjgl.org
#2502 [22:17] <1AVAAKUE6> the one I use is 2.8.
#2503 [22:17] <1AVAAKUE6> 3
#2504 [22:17] <1AVAAKUE6> I can't recall if I don't use 2.8.4 because I'm too lazy to redownload it or if it actually doesnt work
#2505 [22:18] <Kanegasi> so, i heard of that file from other errors, but didnt know thats what minecraft is actually built on
#2506 [22:18] <Kanegasi> i learned something
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#2509 [22:20] <Kanegasi> so i just replace all the like-named files in this lwjgl download in the bin folder?
#2510 [22:20] <Kanegasi> or just the jar?
#2511 [22:21] <xales> You need to replace the .jar as well as the .dll or .so files
#2512 [22:21] <xales> err, .jars
#2513 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> All the like named files in there, including the appropriate natives folder
#2514 [22:21] * xales -> bed
#2514 [22:21] <Kanegasi> gotcha
#2515 [22:22] * 1AVAAKUE6 hammers on xales
#2515 [22:23] <WizardCM> hey guys, i need help spreading this issue enough to reach Dinnerbone and jeb_ http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yh4g8/minecraft_131132_server_lag_issues_bukkit_and/
#2516 [22:24] <WizardCM> spoke to EvilSeph and another Bukkit dev yesterday, and we figured out it's a client issue
#2517 [22:24] <WizardCM> due to the change in the way the servers sends packets to the client
#2518 [22:24] <Kanegasi> join #bukkit and tell them
#2519 [22:24] <WizardCM> ...
#2520 [22:24] <WizardCM> it's a CLIENT ISSUE
#2521 [22:24] <1AVAAKUE6> they already know
#2522 [22:24] <WizardCM> they can't do anything about it
#2523 [22:25] <1AVAAKUE6> then hat good would telling them do
#2524 [22:25] <1AVAAKUE6> what*
#2525 [22:25] <WizardCM> i discussed it yesterday to try and get to the bottom of it
#2526 [22:26] <1AVAAKUE6> have you fixed it yet
#2527 [22:26] <WizardCM> i'm not a modder/developer, each player would need a client mod to fix it
#2528 [22:26] <1AVAAKUE6> well get to modding
#2529 [22:26] <1AVAAKUE6> then provide them with a fix
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#2531 [22:26] <1AVAAKUE6> or ask someone else who is good with client code
#2532 [22:27] <1AVAAKUE6> had this been 6 months ago I'd have investigated myself
#2533 [22:27] <WizardCM> it only started with 1.3
#2534 [22:27] <1AVAAKUE6> but I haven't touched any minecraft code (apart from the client) for a long time)
#2535 [22:27] <1AVAAKUE6> and by client I mean the launcher
#2536 [22:27] <1AVAAKUE6> WHICH by the way is a tangled mess that needs some sanitization
#2537 [22:28] <WizardCM> haha i see
#2538 [22:30] <1AVAAKUE6> the launcher is truly awful.
#2539 [22:30] <1AVAAKUE6> it has about 25 nested anonymous classes
#2540 [22:30] <WizardCM> o.o
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#2542 [22:31] <1AVAAKUE6> most of them are actionlisteners and the like
#2543 [22:31] <1AVAAKUE6> or threads
#2544 [22:31] <1AVAAKUE6> holy crap the launcher relies on threads waaaay too much
#2545 [22:31] <zaji> okay. now have java 7, but when I sign in to "play in browser" I get blank minecraft screen.
#2546 [22:31] <1AVAAKUE6> zaji: get the download client
#2547 [22:31] <1AVAAKUE6> !client
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#2551 [22:38] <Kanegasi> well ill be damned... my mouse problem disappeared
#2552 [22:38] <Kanegasi> thanks 1avaakue6
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#2554 [22:40] <jamir> hello
#2555 [22:40] <Kanegasi> hi
#2556 [22:40] <jamir> um
#2557 [22:40] <jamir> my minecraft i paid for it
#2558 [22:40] <Kanegasi> username?
#2559 [22:40] <jamir> and it wont say its prenum
#2560 [22:40] <jamir> fangblade18
#2561 [22:40] <Kanegasi> !paid fangblade18
#2562 [22:40] <jamir> i have the recipt
#2563 [22:41] <jamir> what
#2564 [22:41] <jamir> i have the recipt
#2565 [22:41] <Kanegasi> how did you pay? card or paypal
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#2567 [22:41] <jamir> paypal
#2568 [22:41] <jamir> ACCOUNT fangblade18 ORDER 31fef40c1a9f439fad6f4137ffc84f9a
#2569 [22:41] <jamir> see
#2570 [22:41] <Kanegasi> how long ago did you purchase it
#2571 [22:41] <jamir> just now
#2572 [22:42] <Kanegasi> give it time, its not instant
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#2574 [22:42] <jamir> ok
#2575 [22:42] <Kanegasi> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2576 [22:42] <jamir> i would also like to ask why wont my dantatton acount work
#2577 [22:42] <Kanegasi> dantatton?
#2578 [22:42] <jamir> my password wont work
#2579 [22:42] <jamir> i think somone hackd it
#2580 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> !paid dantatton
#2581 [22:43] <jamir> !paid dantaton
#2582 [22:43] <Kanegasi> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#2583 [22:43] <jamir> no its Dantatton
#2584 [22:43] <jamir> no wait
#2585 [22:43] <jamir> wrong spelling
#2586 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> !paid Dantatton
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#2588 [22:43] <jamir> Dantotton
#2589 [22:43] <Kanegasi> !paid dantotton
#2590 [22:43] <Kanegasi> aha
#2591 [22:43] <jamir> yea
#2592 [22:43] <jamir> someone hacked it
#2593 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> jamir: That would be why - it's not a paid account
#2594 [22:44] <Kanegasi> just go to the second link i posted
#2595 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> aha! It's all good
#2596 [22:44] <jamir> it got hacked
#2597 [22:44] <Kanegasi> the email was changed?
#2598 [22:44] <jamir> i dint change the password
#2599 [22:44] <jamir> somone hacked
#2600 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> jamir: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and enter in your email address.
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#2602 [22:44] <Kanegasi> if the email is still the same, you can change the password back
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#2604 [22:45] <jamir> also my jamir1234 acount wont show that i baught it but i paid for it last weak
#2605 [22:45] <jamir> week
#2606 [22:45] <Kanegasi> !paid jamir1234
#2607 [22:45] <jamir> yea
#2608 [22:45] <jamir> its weird
#2609 [22:45] <jamir> i have the recipt to
#2610 [22:45] <Kanegasi> how many accounts do you plan on buying? lol
#2611 [22:46] <jamir> my frends acout where all in the room
#2612 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> jamir: What happens when you enter in the email address you used for that dantotton account?
#2613 [22:46] <jamir> it says wrong adress
#2614 [22:46] <mib_2kfy2d> I download minecraft and it says that its done loading but it wont load.. can you help please?
#2615 [22:46] <jamir> it got hacked
#2616 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> jamir: Okay, then something may well be up. This article should help http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#2617 [22:47] <WizardCM> haha, well this is different http://goo.gl/BMVXY
#2618 [22:47] <Kanegasi> as for checking payment and premium status, if you have one of these http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380 then use this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2619 [22:47] <jamir> um
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#2621 [22:48] <jamir> does minecraft store succsess still work
#2622 [22:48] <Kanegasi> store success?
#2623 [22:48] <jamir> yea
#2624 [22:48] <Kanegasi> what is that?
#2625 [22:48] <jamir> www.minecraft.net/store/success
#2626 [22:48] <jamir> when youre about to buy it
#2627 [22:49] <Kanegasi> thats just the end page in the payment process, it means nothing. things could still go wrong with the processing
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#2629 [22:49] <jamir> so i did it today
#2630 [22:49] <jamir> on my acount
#2631 [22:50] <Kanegasi> as long as you have a transaction id and you know for certain the money was taken from your source, contact mojang through the link i provided
#2632 [22:50] <jamir> and for some people it worked
#2633 [22:50] <jamir> i didnt pay for it
#2634 [22:50] <Kanegasi> its just a link to a page with text, it does nothing
#2635 [22:50] <jamir> it gave me a recipt
#2636 [22:50] <jamir> how about that vid that has a million views
#2637 [22:51] <Kanegasi> you take something on youtube seriously?
#2638 [22:51] <jamir> javascript:top.location=document.getElementsByName('return')[0].value; javascript:void(0);
#2639 [22:51] <jamir> this
#2640 [22:51] <jamir> this one
#2641 [22:51] <jamir> eaveyone uses it
#2642 [22:51] <mib_2kfy2d> my page is still stuck on done loading but it wont.. i need help on how to get it to work
#2643 [22:52] <jamir> how about my issue
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#2645 [22:53] <mentalninja43> does anyone know how to fix this dumb loading error
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#2647 [22:54] <1AVAAKUE6> yes.
#2648 [22:54] <mib_2kfy2d> thats what im asking too
#2649 [22:54] <mentalninja43> how?
#2650 [22:54] <1AVAAKUE6> depends on what the error is
#2651 [22:54] <1AVAAKUE6> care to share?
#2652 [22:54] <Kanegasi> ?? pastebin
#2653 [22:54] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2655 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> mentalninja43: Is it having trouble when it's updating?
#2656 [22:55] <mentalninja43> it just stops loading n wont continue and sometimes it does
#2657 [22:55] <mib_2kfy2d> mine is doing the same thing
#2658 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2659 [22:56] <mentalninja43> k ill try
#2660 [22:56] <ineeedminecrafthelp> i want to buy the game, but when i click visa it leads me to a page and says something about cookies, but a button that says continue covers it up. i clicked it but it just led me to the same page. what do i do?
#2661 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> ineeedminecrafthelp: What does it say about cookies?
#2662 [22:57] <Kanegasi> are cookies enabled in your browser?
#2663 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Oh, a button covers up the message. Which web browser are you using?
#2664 [22:57] <ineeedminecrafthelp> i tried using safari & internet explorer
#2665 [22:58] <ineeedminecrafthelp> & it says i need them to continue with payment
#2666 [22:58] <ineeedminecrafthelp> but thats all i can read
#2667 [22:58] <Kanegasi> ?? win/ie
#2668 [22:58] <ineeedminecrafthelp> & how do i enable cookies?\
#2669 [22:58] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2670 [22:58] <VoxelHead> win/ie: Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#2671 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> Then you will need to enable them before you can continue
#2672 [22:59] <ineeedminecrafthelp> how do i enable cookies?
#2673 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> Normally it's via the web browser settings
#2674 [22:59] <ineeedminecrafthelp> ok
#2675 [22:59] <Kanegasi> somewhere in the top menus in ie, theres internet options. once in there, find the security slider and
#2676 [22:59] <Kanegasi> lower it
#2677 [23:00] <Kanegasi> or raise it... whichever makes security less
#2678 [23:00] <Kanegasi> then try
#2679 [23:00] <mib_2kfy2d> how do you fix the loading error? i have disabled my anti-virus software and tried it but its still not working
#2680 [23:00] <mentalninja43> DiskDaemon: it still doesntwork
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#2682 [23:01] <Kanegasi> both of you: are you letting minecraft simply update?
#2683 [23:01] <Kanegasi> first time?
#2684 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> mentalninja43: What details can you tell us about the issue?
#2685 [23:01] <ineeedminecrafthelp> yes it is updated
#2686 [23:01] <mib_2kfy2d> yes... it says its updating and it says its done loading but it stay on that and wont load
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#2688 [23:01] <ineeedminecrafthelp> lowering the security didnt help, i'll try downloading firefox
#2689 [23:02] <Kanegasi> ineeedminecrafthelp: not you
#2690 [23:02] <Kanegasi> that should work
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#2692 [23:03] <mentalninja43> it stops the download at like a half inch from the end and then it stops completely and i tryed a bunch of stuff and it still doesnt work
#2693 [23:03] <mib_2kfy2d> same here
#2694 [23:04] <Kanegasi> both of you mac?
#2695 [23:04] <mib_2kfy2d> no
#2696 [23:04] <mentalninja43> nope
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#2698 [23:05] <Kanegasi> delete .minecraft and use the force update option
#2699 [23:05] <mentalninja43> i tryed that
#2700 [23:05] <Kanegasi> try more than once to force update
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#2702 [23:06] <Kanegasi> hmm
#2703 [23:07] <Kanegasi> i had this issue once, but it was a bit random for me. i just kept using force update until it went through. this issue is popular on macs due to a security setting, but i am not aware of a direct issue on windows
#2704 [23:08] <mentalninja43> yeah ill just let it go for a bit and see if it does
#2705 [23:08] <gv> Done loading can be caused by a number of issues on windows
#2706 [23:08] <mib_2kfy2d> it workked for me.. thank you! lol
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#2708 [23:09] <gv> Ranging from a security software to a ! in the windows username to malware and other issues
#2709 [23:09] <Kanegasi> i think my issue was my router. it tends to act up since its been through a power surge before
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#2711 [23:10] <gv> Also, premium or demo?
#2712 [23:10] <Kanegasi> it likes to reverse my ports on me sometimes... opening everything i dont have set and closing the ones i have open
#2713 [23:10] <gv> Yikes
#2714 [23:11] <mentalninja43> both i tryed two accounts
#2715 [23:11] <gv> The demo still does not work on the downloadable client.
#2716 [23:11] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#2717 [23:11] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2718 [23:12] <mentalninja43> the demo and full doesnt work either
#2719 [23:12] <WizardCM> hey guys i'd really appreciate it if you could upvote this to get it noticed http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yh4g8/minecraft_131132_server_lag_issues_bukkit_and/
#2720 [23:12] <Kanegasi> try the browser version, either demo or full
#2721 [23:12] <gv> Has it ever worked before?
#2722 [23:13] <gv> WizardCM: really not the channel for that
#2723 [23:13] <mentalninja43> the browser verison doesnt work and yep yesterday
#2724 [23:13] <WizardCM> #minecrafthelp =! minecraft help?
#2725 [23:13] <WizardCM> im confused
#2726 [23:14] <gv> Not a place to advertise your links
#2727 [23:14] <Kanegasi> this channel is for people with vanilla issues
#2728 [23:14] <WizardCM> it IS a vanilla issue
#2729 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> WizardCM: I see the word bukkit in there too, which is not vanilla
#2730 [23:15] <Kanegasi> he claims its a minecraft issue, regardless of bukkit usage
#2731 [23:15] <WizardCM> "Bukkit and Vanilla (overflow)"
#2732 [23:15] <Kanegasi> but still
#2733 [23:15] <WizardCM> proof it's not a bukkit issue http://pastebin.com/rvMvSe6E
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#2735 [23:15] <Kanegasi> i think you'll get better attention on the forums or even tweeting jeb himself
#2736 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> WizardCM: The best place to get traction on issues is the bugs page at minecraft wiki
#2737 [23:16] <WizardCM> i've tweeted jeb and dinnerbone twice already, i'm actually about to write up a post on the forums
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#2739 [23:18] <WizardCM> seeing as it looks to be a client issue, i'm going to put it into the Game Client Support section, sound good?
#2740 [23:19] * Kanegasi is now known as :Kane{-_-}zZ
#2741 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> Also - ensure that all information about the problem is just from the vanilla game. If there is any possibility that people can blame mods on the problem, they will.
#2742 [23:20] <gv> Up to you. The mojang team really only looks mainly at the wiki bug list
#2743 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> WizardCM: This means that you need to create a new video, purely from a vanilla install of the game, using new maps where possible to demonstrate the issue.
#2744 [23:21] <WizardCM> DiskDaemon: i was actually considering doing that
#2745 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> Get on to it then :)
#2746 [23:22] <WizardCM> downloading camstudio so i can show the installation of the server too
#2747 [23:22] <WizardCM> because it happens on a purely vanilla installation
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#2750 [23:25] <C3PO> I keep getting "Fatal error occured (5): A device attached to the system is not functioning Extracting:windows_natives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar" how can I fix this
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#2752 [23:26] <wolf5> is there a way to make my mouse not open the menu when clicking on the minecraft classic ?
#2753 [23:26] <kolberonie> why cant i connect to minecraft??
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#2755 [23:27] <kolberonie> canot reach miinecraft.net?????
#2756 [23:27] <wolf5> thats odd
#2757 [23:27] <wolf5> you cant even get to the homepage ?
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#2759 [23:28] <kolberonie> like when i try and open minecraft the game and login in says "can not conect to minecraft.net"
#2760 [23:28] <wolf5> oh ok
#2761 [23:28] <kolberonie> yeah any ideas??
#2762 [23:29] * Xenon is now known as :Xenon|AFK
#2763 [23:29] <wolf5> did you try resetting your router or simalar device ?
#2764 [23:29] <wolf5> sry about spelling
#2765 [23:29] <kolberonie> no worries, no i havent
#2766 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: Does your launcher look different from normal? No news content in the upper pane, black background in the power part, things like that?
#2767 [23:30] <kolberonie> yeah its not loading the new feed
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#2769 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: Okay - with HTML content at the top instead?
#2770 [23:31] <kolberonie> Ya!!
#2771 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#2772 [23:31] <wolf5> could anybody help me with the classic version ?
#2773 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> wolf5: Sorry, classic support isn't provided in here now
#2774 [23:32] <wolf5> oh where could i find any ?
#2775 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> wolf5: The minecraft forums
#2776 [23:33] <wolf5> it might be a problem in both classic and full version
#2777 [23:33] <wolf5> i havent tryed to full version yet so..
#2778 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> wolf5: You can try the demo out now
#2779 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#2780 [23:33] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#2781 [23:33] <wolf5> ooo ty that might help
#2782 [23:35] <wolf5> it might not run so good one my laptop but it should work as a test
#2783 [23:35] <wolf5> how do i update me video card ???
#2784 [23:35] <wolf5> my
#2785 [23:36] <kolberonie> The target field isnt working when i try and replace DiskDaemon??
#2786 [23:36] <WizardCM> ok recorded the video, now to edit out the bits of me displaying my email address and then i'll upload
#2787 [23:37] <WizardCM> hopefully quality is ok
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#2789 [23:37] <wolf5> do i have to pay for a video card update ??
#2790 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: What happens instead?
#2791 [23:38] <kolberonie> "the name " " specified in the target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are corrected"
#2792 [23:38] <kolberonie> Thats what shows up
#2793 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: What is the target field that is now in your shortcut?
#2794 [23:39] <kolberonie> When i try pasting that stuff in the target field
#2795 [23:39] <kolberonie> like when i first opened ity up??
#2796 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: What do you now have in the target field of the shortcut.
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#2798 [23:40] <kolberonie> "C:\Users\Kolby\Desktop\Games\Minecraft (1).exe
#2799 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, that won't work.
#2800 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> Instead, use what is shown on the page that I linked you to before.
#2801 [23:41] <kolberonie> yeah i tried but that msg i just showed comes up when i try and apply
#2802 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: How would you like me to help you with that then?
#2803 [23:42] <kolberonie> nvm i might no why
#2804 [23:43] <kolberonie> but thanks for the help ma
#2805 [23:43] <kolberonie> man
#2806 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: I suggest first that you rename the file to be minecraft.exe, as it was originally, before proceeding on with the instructions
#2807 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> Or if you have file extensions set to be hidden, to just minecraft
#2808 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> Instead of minecraft (1)
#2809 [23:44] <kolberonie> yeah thats what i was trying
#2810 [23:47] <kolberonie> should i leave the original as minecraft or name it minecraft.exe??
#2811 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: That entirely depends on how your computer system it set up.
#2812 [23:48] <kolberonie> okay
#2813 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> kolberonie: Right-click on the file and go to its properties. The description tells you what its full name is.
#2814 [23:49] <kolberonie> okay
#2815 [23:49] <kolberonie> ya its just minecraft
#2816 [23:51] * DiskDaemon has to head off, back in a while
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#2817 [23:54] <Wrinkled> It's been hours since I purchase minecraft and I'm still not updated
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#2821 [23:57] <polk> does anybody know how to fix th black screen problem on minecraft classic on mac
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#2824 [23:59] <wolf5> well i did some reading and i dont think my laptop will run minecraft
#2825 [23:59] <wolf5> lol well worth a shot though