#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-31
#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> The people who are helping in this channel are all random volunteers. None of the helpers in here are employed by Mojang
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#4 [00:30] <Flan> an op on a server abused his power
#5 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> okay
#6 [00:33] <Flan> it is on Compusive craft
#7 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> I'll make a point of not joining that server
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#9 [00:43] <oosixsix> why cant i log on to minecraft
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#11 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> Commonly due to a bad password
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#13 [00:45] <oosixsix> why cant i log on to minecraft
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#15 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> Is there an error message?
#16 [00:45] <Flan> not premiuk
#17 [00:46] <oosixsix> i am premium i was playing it and and i went to log on and it says login failed
#18 [00:46] <Flan> what does it say
#19 [00:46] <Flan> no wifi connection
#20 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> Flan: You aren't?
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#22 [00:46] <bigGentiles> Hello, how are you?
#23 [00:46] <Massive_erection> Hello, how are you?
#24 [00:46] <oosixsix> i am on the internet i was just watching youtube and other stuff on the web
#25 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> oosixsix: What is your minecraft username?
#26 [00:47] <oosixsix> oosixsix
#27 [00:47] <bigGentiles> I'm doing good, and yourself?
#28 [00:47] <Massive_erection> I'm doing good, and yourself?
#29 [00:47] <Massive_erection> Good.
#30 [00:47] <bigGentiles> Good.
#31 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> !paid oosixsix
#32 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> Are you using the minecraft launcher from minecraft.net, or some other launcher?
#33 [00:47] <oosixsix> minecraft.net
#34 [00:47] <Massive_erection> Glad to see someone that is happy.
#35 [00:47] <bigGentiles> Glad to see someone that is happy.
#36 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> oosixsix: Can you log in to the minecraft.net website?
#37 [00:48] <bigGentiles> I would love to bend you over and spank you.
#38 [00:48] <Massive_erection> I would love to bend you over and spank you.
#39 [00:48] <Massive_erection> I'd cover you in butter and stick you in the oven.
#40 [00:48] <bigGentiles> I'd cover you in butter and stick you in the oven.
#41 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> Please keep the language clean in here
#42 [00:48] <Massive_erection> Stop copying me!
#43 [00:48] <bigGentiles> Srop copying me!
#44 [00:48] <Flan> ha
#45 [00:49] <oosixsix> no it says incorrect username and password
#46 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> oosixsix: Reset your password, and then try again
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#48 [00:49] <oosixsix> how
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#50 [00:50] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#52 [00:50] <oosixsix> ok i will try
#53 [00:50] <Massive_erection> Oh Disk Daemon, I would love for you to bend over and let me slide my big one in there like we used to do.
#54 [00:50] <bigGentiles> Oh DiskDaemon, I would love for you to bend over and let me slide my big one in there like we used to do.
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#57 [00:51] <Massive_erection> No! My balls!
#58 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, perhaps I shouldn't have gone for the copycat :)
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#60 [00:52] <bigGentiles> why hello there
#61 [00:52] <Massive_erection> My balls!
#62 [00:52] <Massive_erection> Thank God you're safe!
#63 [00:52] <bigGentiles> my foreskin
#64 [00:52] <Flan> stop the pervertedness
#65 [00:52] <bigGentiles> stop the wanking
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#68 [00:54] <Flan> who was he
#69 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> we haven't seen him before
#70 [00:55] <Wug> he seems to be seeking channels to troll in
#71 [00:55] <Wug> I hope he finds some I'm an op in
#72 [00:55] <oosixsix> it works thanks i am a girl with a wet vagina
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#74 [00:57] <Flan> oosixsix was nastt
#75 [00:57] <Eddie> o.O
#76 [00:58] <Eddie> Shouldn't the children be asleep at this time?
#77 [00:58] <Flan> depends where you live
#78 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> 5pm by my count, for example
#79 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> Or rather, 3pm from where the previous ones were from
#80 [01:00] <Flan> why in minecraft do dogs bump eachother when mating
#81 [01:01] <Wug> Flan: -.-
#82 [01:01] <DiskDaemon> Some form of contact seems to be required for mating to occur
#83 [01:01] <Wug> DiskDaemon: ignore him
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#85 [01:01] <Wug> stoutly.
#86 [01:01] <Wug> I've got this
#87 [01:02] <Flan> but they look weird
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#89 [01:08] <Wug> Flan: im pretty sure every minecraft animal does that
#90 [01:09] <Wug> they just sort of bump into each other
#91 [01:09] <Wug> that's kind of all that's called for.
#92 [01:09] <Flan> i wonder what happens if one gets bumped off a cliff
#93 [01:09] <Flan> i wonder what happens if one gets bumped off a cliff
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#95 [01:09] <Wug> it falls :D
#96 [01:10] <Flan> and the other one
#97 [01:10] <Wug> it stays.
#98 [01:11] <Wug> well it might jump off on its own
#99 [01:11] <Wug> but such is the way of minecraft animals
#100 [01:18] <Flan> soon there is going to be zombie villagers
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#107 [01:52] <mib_kvky7z> admin help me?
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#111 [02:06] <stankyskunk> i need help with my account please
#112 [02:06] <stankyskunk> anyone there?
#113 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> maybe.
#114 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> please be more specific?
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#116 [02:12] <stankyskunk> i need help with my account. my skins dont upload, my account makes me login with an email now and i want it back to my username thats about it if you could help me
#117 [02:13] <stankyskunk> and the regular minecraft page profile shows an old email, even tho the majong site has registerd my new one
#118 [02:16] <stankyskunk> ???
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#121 [02:52] <brusann> hi, i'm getting the black screen of death on minecraft and have tried a bunch of things, all to no avail. can anyone help?
#122 [02:56] <brusann> anyone? :D
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#124 [03:03] <Lclc98> im making a mod pack client and i just need the rules of distributing the original minecraft.jar
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#133 [03:26] <undead> How do i add my plugins and my worlds to my minecraft VPS ?
#134 [03:27] <undead> i have putty and winscp
#135 [03:27] <undead> i have putty and winscp
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#138 [03:28] <undead> Please help
#139 [03:28] <undead> i just payed $20 for a VPS
#140 [03:28] <undead> Now i need to add my plugins and worlds
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#143 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> Do you have Minecraft set up on the VPS yet?
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#145 [03:52] <undead> What do you mean?
#146 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> What have you purchased? A VPS that needs to be set up to run a minecraft server, or a VPS running a minecraft server that you need to customize further from there?
#147 [03:54] <undead> VPS running a minecraft server that needs to be customized further from there.
#148 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> where from?
#149 [03:55] <undead> Mymcadmin. i think
#150 [03:55] <undead> i bought the VPS from allgamer
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#153 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Please find out and let me know
#154 [03:56] <undead> I need to find what country its ran from ?
#155 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> undead: I suggest that you make enquiries in the allgamer forum, at http://forums.allgamer.net/
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#159 [04:34] <classic> Hi, where can I get support for minecraft classic?
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#161 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> classic: It's not provided now that there is a proper emo
#162 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#163 [04:39] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#164 [04:41] <classic> this demo is nothing like the classic community
#165 [04:42] <classic> there are still thousands of people playing together in classic servers
#166 [04:43] <classic> is the classic community on the way to destruction?
#167 [04:47] <Nudle> sure is!
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#174 [05:22] <mihr10> i bought a code for minecraft and it gave me a 32 digit code
#175 [05:22] <mihr10> what do i do
#176 [05:22] <mihr10> ?
#177 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> That's most likely a receipt that you received
#178 [05:23] <mihr10> it said it was the code
#179 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> Like when you go to a store, and they give you a receipt that says 'paid' or 'declined'
#180 [05:23] <mihr10> and i was stupid and backed out of the page now i cant get back to it and i can only make one purchase on my card for 48 hours
#181 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Details of the types of codes are shown at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#182 [05:25] <mihr10> so i just go to my email and check or what?
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#187 [05:36] <null_fahrenheit> CBJmods. great thing. does anyone know, where i can get a manual of it? NOT installation, but using.
#188 [05:39] <gv> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/240772-132-cjb-mods-v634-27-08-2012/
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#190 [05:42] <James0991> Hello? Im wondering how i can be admin on my own Irc?
#191 [05:44] <bezaban> /join #yourchannelname
#192 [05:44] <Calinou> you have to register your channel using chanserv too
#193 [05:44] <Calinou> /cs help
#194 [05:45] <Calinou> (highly recommended if you want a "persistent" channel)
#195 [05:45] <bezaban> starting out easy :P
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#199 [05:47] <James0991_> ?
#200 [05:49] <James0991_> So how can i add Admins on my irc?
#201 [05:49] <Calinou> op them; it is recommended to register your channel with chanserv so that you don't have to op them every time
#202 [05:49] <James0991_> WHere can i do that? And i dont know how i even op someone
#203 [05:50] <Calinou> /op nickname
#204 [05:50] <Calinou> (you need op in the channel to do that)
#205 [05:50] <James0991_> Okay And where cab i register?
#206 [05:50] <Calinou> some clients do not have the /op alias: in this case, /mode +o #channel nickname should do
#207 [05:50] <Calinou> type /cs help and see the commands there
#208 [05:51] <Calinou> (you want /cs register #channelname here)
#209 [05:51] <James0991_> Okay super! And how do i register?
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#211 [05:53] <oro007> Any website?
#212 [05:53] <oro007> or?
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#236 [07:21] <undead> How do i setup my minecraft VPS i just bought ?
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#239 [07:30] <lutzee> undead: did you buy from a minecraft host? or did you just purchase a straight VPS ?
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#242 [07:47] <undead> I bought a minecraft VPS
#243 [07:47] <lutzee> Then you are best to talk to your host, they can probably get you set up and running
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#245 [07:49] <undead> kk ty
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#249 [07:59] <slimshady> minecraft wont work for me
#250 [07:59] <undead> How ?
#251 [08:00] <Calinou> slimshady, elaborate please
#252 [08:00] <slimshady> like it pops up this white screen or letter like thing and it has all these codes and stuff on it before mojang would usally pop up
#253 [08:01] <undead> Open minecraft
#254 [08:01] <undead> Get to the login page
#255 [08:01] <slimshady> k
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#257 [08:01] <slimshady> then what
#258 [08:02] <undead> Do you see the button options above login ?
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#260 [08:02] <slimshady> beside of it yes
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#262 [08:02] <undead> Press it and click force update
#263 [08:02] <slimshady> then
#264 [08:02] <undead> and then press done
#265 [08:02] <undead> Did it say Will force ?
#266 [08:03] <slimshady> yeah
#267 [08:03] <undead> kk now login
#268 [08:03] <undead> And startup minecraft
#269 [08:03] <slimshady> does the same white screen?
#270 [08:03] <slimshady> bad video card driver
#271 [08:04] <undead> Did it give you the same screen slimshady ?
#272 [08:04] <slimshady> yeah
#273 [08:04] <undead> Hmmm.
#274 [08:04] <undead> Its not minecraft .
#275 [08:04] <slimshady> its says bad video card driver
#276 [08:06] <undead> go here
#277 [08:06] <undead> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+update+your+video+card+driver
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#294 [08:55] <null_fahrenheit> hi to all
#295 [08:56] <Smanly|Sleeping> o/
#296 [08:57] <null_fahrenheit> i very often stuck in the ground after loading a save game. then dying by buried alive. what can i do?
#297 [08:57] <Calinou> null_fahrenheit, singleplayer I presume? try updating to latest minecraft version which is 1.3.2
#298 [08:58] <null_fahrenheit> i already did it
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#301 [08:59] <null_fahrenheit> im short before putting it to trash
#302 [09:02] <Smanly|Sleeping> That doesnt normally happen.
#303 [09:02] <Smanly|Sleeping> Do you happen to have a rather slow computer?
#304 [09:03] <null_fahrenheit> tell me, cant you stay in a dialog for only FEW minutes?
#305 [09:04] <lutzee> Smanly|Sleeping: he's on winXP
#306 [09:04] <null_fahrenheit> what do you mean? its 7 years old
#307 [09:04] <Necrodoom> 7 years old? wow
#308 [09:04] <Smanly|Sleeping> Lol
#309 [09:04] <Smanly|Sleeping> Only
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#311 [09:05] <Smanly|Sleeping> We are not talking about living things here, null_fahrenheit.
#312 [09:05] <Necrodoom> my high end 6 years old computer struggled on minecraft beta hard
#313 [09:05] * lutzee looks at his 10 year old PC that can run MC at 30-40 fps
#313 [09:06] <Necrodoom> null_fahrenheit: are you getting any lag on minecraft?
#314 [09:06] <Smanly|Sleeping> My new computer wont be able to run minecraft perfectly, I bet. I hope not, but it may.
#315 [09:06] <null_fahrenheit> thats not right in this way. the game runs at accurate speed.
#316 [09:06] <null_fahrenheit> FPS for about 35-40- its enough
#317 [09:07] <null_fahrenheit> high end gfx card this time
#318 [09:07] <Smanly|Sleeping> Could be your HDD I/O
#319 [09:07] <Smanly|Sleeping> Do chunks take a while to load?
#320 [09:08] <null_fahrenheit> yes
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#322 [09:08] <Smanly|Sleeping> Well there's your problem, I would think.
#323 [09:09] <null_fahrenheit> tell me then: why i NEVER had such a problem at earlier versions of mc?
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#327 [09:11] <Smanly|Sleeping> null_fahrenheit: No you tell me. Other than updating the game, have you changed anything?
#328 [09:11] <Smanly|Sleeping> Or perhaps have any of your habits changed, such as having other programs open along side MC>
#329 [09:11] <Smanly|Sleeping> ?
#330 [09:12] <Smanly|Sleeping> Also, when did you last update? It seems to me that minecraft did get laggier since I first go it in like 1.8
#331 [09:12] <null_fahrenheit> mods? sometimes. but the issue is not depending on that. and no, all is clear. mc runs alone on an clean system
#332 [09:12] <Smanly|Sleeping> mods could cause more lag.
#333 [09:13] <Smanly|Sleeping> Have you tried without mods?
#334 [09:13] <Calinou> lag != slow performance
#335 [09:13] <Calinou> try playing without mods, yes
#336 [09:13] <Calinou> in case you use rei minimap disable transparency and enable "omit height calc", these greatly help performance-wise
#337 [09:14] <null_fahrenheit> yes, the game corruption is not depending on the activity of mods.
#338 [09:14] <Smanly|Sleeping> I guess lag would just be a delay, right? Or what do you mean, Calinou ?
#339 [09:14] <null_fahrenheit> it happens with and without
#340 [09:14] <Calinou> lag is latency == delay, usually network delay, can also be input lag
#341 [09:14] <Smanly|Sleeping> I dont think the cam is being currupted.
#342 [09:15] <Smanly|Sleeping> lolwtf
#343 [09:15] <Smanly|Sleeping> I need sleep
#344 [09:15] <Smanly|Sleeping> bye o/
#345 [09:15] <Smanly|Sleeping> Adios o/ I sleep nao
#346 [09:16] <null_fahrenheit> bye
#347 [09:17] <null_fahrenheit> the explanation is, they made it worse, thats it
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#353 [09:21] <sharkman11264> I can't download to my mac can you tell me why?
#354 [09:21] <xGolstrike> Guys can u hlep me?
#355 [09:21] <xGolstrike> when i want to add a block and im holding left mouse button in it comes to pause
#356 [09:21] <xGolstrike> the whole time
#357 [09:21] <xGolstrike> who could help me
#358 [09:21] <lutzee> ??> sharkman11264 mac/gatekeeper
#359 [09:21] <VoxelHead> sharkman11264: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#360 [09:23] <lutzee> xGolstrike: sounds like you have the pause menu button set to left click in the key config options
#361 [09:23] <xGolstrike> i cant find the config ingame
#362 [09:24] <null_fahrenheit> any more suggestions for my stuck in the ground and die-issue told before? anyone here able to make a somehow polite communication?
#363 [09:24] <xGolstrike> i can stil add blocks but when im holding it comes to pause
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#365 [09:25] <lutzee> xGolstrike: i've heard of that before... and i'm not entirely sure if a solution was found
#366 [09:25] <lutzee> null_fahrenheit: keep a pickaxe and shovel on you
#367 [09:26] <xGolstrike> iuts says premium only i need to purchase the full game to add or remove blocks?
#368 [09:26] <lutzee> ohhhh
#369 [09:26] <lutzee> demo
#370 [09:26] <Necrodoom> null_fahrenheit: i cant see any reason for SP TP bury, other than slow computer with chunk load
#371 [09:26] <Necrodoom> xGolstrike: you dont
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#373 [09:26] <xGolstrike> i comming into the menu save level
#374 [09:26] <Necrodoom> xGolstrike: this is a mouse losing focus issue with MC
#375 [09:27] <null_fahrenheit> but why not in earlier versions?
#376 [09:27] <Necrodoom> null_fahrenheit: 1.3.1 changes the way SP works
#377 [09:27] <Necrodoom> you know host a local server
#378 [09:27] <Necrodoom> now*
#379 [09:28] <Necrodoom> this means SP actions are much more delayed, especially for slow computers
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#381 [09:29] <null_fahrenheit> yes heard about the changes. i began to mislike it all
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#385 [09:30] <null_fahrenheit> i may download the old version
#386 [09:30] <Necrodoom> null_fahrenheit: use MCnostalgia
#387 [09:30] <xxxhawkx> how do i change my email on minecraft
#388 [09:30] <Necrodoom> i think thats how its called
#389 [09:30] <null_fahrenheit> necer heard
#390 [09:31] <Necrodoom> here it is
#391 [09:31] <Necrodoom> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
#392 [09:31] <xxxhawkx> is that for me
#393 [09:31] <Necrodoom> yes
#394 [09:31] <Necrodoom> er
#395 [09:31] <Necrodoom> no
#396 [09:31] <Necrodoom> xxxhawkx: im talking to null_fahrenheit
#397 [09:32] <xxxhawkx> kk
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#399 [09:34] <null_fahrenheit> sounds interesting...but is certainly just a workaround.
#400 [09:34] <null_fahrenheit> not really satisfying
#401 [09:35] <Necrodoom> null_fahrenheit: its if your only solution is using 1.2.5
#402 [09:35] <null_fahrenheit> maybe, until they fix the bugs.
#403 [09:35] <null_fahrenheit> maybe, until they fix the bugs.
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#417 [10:15] <kingvoice> help!
#418 [10:15] <kingvoice> minecraft won't load for me
#419 [10:16] <kingvoice> java say can'r conect to java virtual machine
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#422 [10:18] <kingvoice> java say can'r conect to java virtual machine
#423 [10:18] <kingvoice> minecraft won't load for me
#424 [10:18] <Grim_Reaper> What happens when you try
#425 [10:18] <skollzor> virtual machine=not enough memory
#426 [10:18] <kingvoice> how do i make memory?
#427 [10:18] <skollzor> is this on ur server?
#428 [10:18] <kingvoice> should i delite the minecraft file
#429 [10:18] <skollzor> or ur launcher
#430 [10:18] <kingvoice> launcher
#431 [10:18] <kingvoice> it doesn't load
#432 [10:19] <skollzor> oh then i think you should let more memory to the ram
#433 [10:19] <kingvoice> it says program will exit
#434 [10:19] <skollzor> weird LOL
#435 [10:19] <skollzor> is it a black screen?
#436 [10:19] <kingvoice> no
#437 [10:19] <skollzor> or a login screen
#438 [10:19] <kingvoice> the actul thing won't open
#439 [10:19] <kingvoice> i click it and it says that
#440 [10:20] <skollzor> well go to control pannel
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#442 [10:20] <kingvoice> yh
#443 [10:20] <skollzor> wait
#444 [10:20] <skollzor> what window are u using?
#445 [10:20] <skollzor> xp or 7?
#446 [10:20] <kingvoice> xp
#447 [10:21] <skollzor> oh
#448 [10:21] <skollzor> then go to system
#449 [10:21] <skollzor> then advance
#450 [10:21] <kingvoice> yh
#451 [10:21] <kingvoice> do i tell you ram
#452 [10:21] <skollzor> no
#453 [10:21] <skollzor> well then go to advance tab
#454 [10:21] <kingvoice> wait
#455 [10:21] <kingvoice> im waitng for it to load
#456 [10:21] <skollzor> and click view on the performance
#457 [10:21] <skollzor> k
#458 [10:22] <skollzor> just do that and tell me
#459 [10:22] <skollzor> btw u need 2gb ram+ to play minecraft
#460 [10:22] <kingvoice> i got 2 ram
#461 [10:22] <skollzor> good
#462 [10:22] <skollzor> done?
#463 [10:22] <skollzor> advance tab
#464 [10:23] <skollzor> view on performance
#465 [10:23] <kingvoice> it comes with setting under performance
#466 [10:23] <skollzor> whatever
#467 [10:23] <skollzor> view setting
#468 [10:23] <skollzor> its the same
#469 [10:23] <skollzor> just click it
#470 [10:23] <kingvoice> and?
#471 [10:24] <skollzor> then there should be aother advance tab
#472 [10:24] <skollzor> on the top
#473 [10:24] <kingvoice> yh
#474 [10:24] <skollzor> the virtual memory
#475 [10:24] <skollzor> click change
#476 [10:24] <skollzor> and you should have 2 hardware
#477 [10:24] <kingvoice> and what to?
#478 [10:24] <skollzor> just click it
#479 [10:24] <kingvoice> i have one
#480 [10:24] <skollzor> it allows more ram to ur comp
#481 [10:24] <skollzor> ok
#482 [10:24] <kingvoice> its called C:
#483 [10:24] <skollzor> then
#484 [10:25] <skollzor> click on the c
#485 [10:25] <kingvoice> yh
#486 [10:25] <skollzor> then choose custom size
#487 [10:25] <kingvoice> yh
#488 [10:25] <kingvoice> what do i change it to?
#489 [10:25] <skollzor> the first one type in 2000 the second type in 4000
#490 [10:25] <skollzor> then ok
#491 [10:25] <kingvoice> wait
#492 [10:26] <kingvoice> it says 2046 on the first one
#493 [10:26] <kingvoice> and 4092 on second
#494 [10:26] <skollzor> then try boosting it to 4000 and the second to 6000
#495 [10:26] <skollzor> and it might work
#496 [10:27] <kingvoice> now what do i click
#497 [10:27] <skollzor> click ok
#498 [10:27] <skollzor> and close control pannel
#499 [10:27] <skollzor> then turn on ur minecraft
#500 [10:28] <kingvoice> hasn't worked
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#503 [10:28] <skollzor> weird
#504 [10:28] <skollzor> what are u using?
#505 [10:28] <skollzor> what java
#506 [10:28] <kingvoice> java 7 update 7
#507 [10:28] <skollzor> weird
#508 [10:28] <kingvoice> i updated it today
#509 [10:29] <kingvoice> cause i thought that may be the problem
#510 [10:30] <kingvoice> wait i found out the problem
#511 [10:31] <kingvoice> the memory can't be higher then 4092
#512 [10:31] <skollzor> oh
#513 [10:31] <skollzor> try 4000
#514 [10:31] <skollzor> and 2000
#515 [10:31] <kingvoice> i just did 4000 4000
#516 [10:31] <kingvoice> on both
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#518 [10:32] <kingvoice> skollazor
#519 [10:32] <kingvoice> slollzor
#520 [10:32] <kingvoice> skollzor
#521 [10:32] <skollzor> ?
#522 [10:33] <skollzor> yeah just try it
#523 [10:33] <kingvoice> i need to restart now
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#533 [10:46] <kingvoice> ty
#534 [10:46] <kingvoice> i done it
#535 [10:46] <kingvoice> going to play minecraft bye
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#547 [11:12] <Dannybravo78> Hi for some reason, my world is on creative, but everytime i time i enter my world its in survivial.How can i fix this
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#551 [11:14] <btr> I bought mine craft for 26.00$ when i go to log in on the mine craft launcher i type my user name and password and it says "log in failed or user not premium (not downloaded)"
#552 [11:14] <Dannybravo78> Hi. My world says its in creative, but everytime I join its in survival. How can I fix this?
#553 [11:17] <Calinou> btr, double-check the username/password combination
#554 [11:17] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, what version? 1.3.2? try updating if you don't use 1.3.2
#555 [11:18] <Calinou> try starting a new world in creative and see if it is in creative mode
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#557 [11:18] <Dannybravo78> Ok
#558 [11:18] <kingvoice> help
#559 [11:18] <btr> I already did that is there a phone number that I can call to speak to someone?
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#561 [11:19] <Dannybravo78> Yes the new world works as creative when i join
#562 [11:19] <Calinou> mojang does not have phone support, they have email support (huge delays though). see http://help.mojang.com
#563 [11:19] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, go in your "creative-survival" world then type "/gamemode c" in the chat without quotes
#564 [11:20] <kingvoice> wheres the guy who helped me last
#565 [11:20] <Dannybravo78> It says I do not have permission to do that
#566 [11:20] <Necrodoom> Dannybravo78: is it a multiplayer a server, or a singleplayer one?
#567 [11:21] <btr> what is the email support address?
#568 [11:21] <Dannybravo78> No its a singleplayer.
#569 [11:21] <kingvoice> i get this error called java virtual machine
#570 [11:22] <kingvoice> could not create java virtual machine
#571 [11:22] <lutzee> btr check to see if the money has left your bank account
#572 [11:22] <kingvoice> a person helped me to fix it but it happend again
#573 [11:25] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, hmm... you could try using NBTEdit: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/6661-nbtedit/ - then open your world's level.dat (on windows: %appdata%/.minecraft/saves/WORLD_NAME/level.dat) and set the "gamemode" field to 1 (quit minecraft first)
#574 [11:25] <Calinou> never tried this but it might work
#575 [11:26] <kingvoice> can someone help me
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#577 [11:26] <Cajs> Hello
#578 [11:26] <Calinou> kingvoice, classic or the full game? we do not provide support for classic
#579 [11:26] <Calinou> hi Cajs. don't ask to ask please, ask now
#580 [11:26] <Calinou> hi Cajs. don't ask to ask please, ask now
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#583 [11:27] <kingvoice> full game
#584 [11:27] <btr> when i log into the website it does not recognize my user name
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#586 [11:28] <kingvoice> someone told me it was a memory error
#587 [11:28] <Calinou> kingvoice, try uninstalling any version of java you have first then install this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#588 [11:28] <Calinou> you want Windows x64 on most windows computers (try this one first)
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#590 [11:29] <kingvoice> will this fix my problem
#591 [11:29] <kingvoice> cause ive tried nearly everything
#592 [11:29] <Dannybravo78> I just tried opening it with notebook and they both disappered
#593 [11:30] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, both disappeared? both what?
#594 [11:30] <kingvoice> it says its not valid
#595 [11:30] <Dannybravo78> Level.dat MCR and level.dat pC
#596 [11:30] <Calinou> kingvoice, what's not valid?
#597 [11:31] <kingvoice> i downloaded it
#598 [11:31] <kingvoice> it says it needs to be 32
#599 [11:31] <Calinou> :o can you still load your world? (sorry if you can't :/ - did you have anything important in your world?)
#600 [11:31] <Calinou> kingvoice, you want Windows x86 Offline then
#601 [11:31] <Calinou> download that one from the same link
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#603 [11:32] <Dannybravo78> Yeah I can still load it but im still stuck in survival mode without any permissions
#604 [11:33] <kingvoice> okay now what do i do?
#605 [11:33] <kingvoice> i tried opeining it... it didn't work
#606 [11:34] <Calinou> kingvoice, huh? the x86 one is 32 bit, why wouldn't it work?
#607 [11:34] <kingvoice> i downloaded it
#608 [11:34] <kingvoice> but minecraft won't open
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#610 [11:36] <kingvoice> calinou so?
#611 [11:37] <Dannybravo78> Calinou: Yeah I can still load it but im still stuck in survival mode without any permissions
#612 [11:37] <kingvoice> brb
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#614 [11:38] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, got one (complicated) suggestion that would work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1178037/
#615 [11:38] <Calinou> best temporary solution I can provide, that will probably work
#616 [11:38] <btr> u took my money
#617 [11:39] <Calinou> sorry if I can't find a better solution - remember, we're all volounteers, noone is paid for helping :)
#618 [11:39] <Calinou> ??> btr attitude
#619 [11:39] <VoxelHead> btr: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#620 [11:39] <VoxelHead> btr: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#621 [11:39] <Calinou> we're not affiliated with mojang by the way
#622 [11:39] <Calinou> kingvoice, if you use AVG, remember to disable the "link scanner" module
#623 [11:39] <btr> i purchased the game and it won't let me play
#624 [11:40] <Dannybravo78> I'll try. brb. Thank you for your help man
#625 [11:40] <Calinou> btr, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#626 [11:40] <Calinou> no problem
#627 [11:40] <jp> how do i get rid of 1.3.2
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#629 [11:41] <btr> When will I receive my premium status and what is a premium status?
#630 [11:41] <lutzee> btr: purchasing the game successfully gives premium status
#631 [11:41] <lutzee> jp you mean downgrade?
#632 [11:41] <jp> i want to go back to 1.2.5
#633 [11:42] <jp> yes
#634 [11:42] <Calinou> ??> jp mcnostalgia
#635 [11:42] <Calinou> oops
#636 [11:42] <lutzee> ??> jp oldversion
#637 [11:42] <btr> What is a premium status?????????????????
#638 [11:42] <VoxelHead> jp: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#639 [11:42] <jp> yes
#640 [11:42] <lutzee> btr: it means you have bought the game
#641 [11:42] <Calinou> btr, premium status is the thing that lets you play the full version of minecraft
#642 [11:43] <kingvoice> back
#643 [11:43] <Calinou> welcome back
#644 [11:43] <jp> keep having java problems
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#646 [11:43] <lutzee> btr: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/428478-minecraft-account-types-and-statuses
#647 [11:43] <btr> ok but then I downloaded the game and i typed in my username and password and it says login failed or user not premium. What does that mean?
#648 [11:44] <kingvoice> okay i done it valinous
#649 [11:44] <kingvoice> calinou
#650 [11:44] <kingvoice> now will it work?
#651 [11:44] <lutzee> btr: login failed is bad username/password, user not premium means that the account has not been paid for, as you have attempted to pay for it, something went wrong and you should contact your bank and ask what's up
#652 [11:45] <kingvoice> minecraft still won't open...
#653 [11:45] <Calinou> kingvoice, black screen? stuck at "done loading"?
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#655 [11:45] <Calinou> try doing "force update" in the launcher options
#656 [11:45] <kingvoice> i can't
#657 [11:45] <kingvoice> the actule thing won't open
#658 [11:46] <btr> I think it is user not premium because when i log in on the mine craft website with my user name and password it works. But when i log in on the mine craft launcher it doesn't work.
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#660 [11:47] <Calinou> kingvoice, you could try using the .jar launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - open it using java
#661 [11:47] <Calinou> btr, double check the username/password. they are both case sensitive
#662 [11:47] <btr> ok thanks i wil
#663 [11:47] <kingvoice> and that doesn't open either
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#665 [11:48] <jp> i cant load technic pack with newer version
#666 [11:48] <Calinou> ?? mods
#667 [11:48] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#668 [11:49] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#669 [11:49] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#670 [11:49] <Necrodoom> Calinou: oh, sorry
#671 [11:49] <kingvoice> Calinou: so what now
#672 [11:49] <Calinou> Necrodoom, could you help kingvoice please?
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#674 [11:49] <Calinou> could be the "SSL handshake exception" issue
#675 [11:49] <kingvoice> whats that
#676 [11:50] <Necrodoom> kingvoice: what happens when you double click the downloaded file?
#677 [11:50] <kingvoice> well it comes up with two errors
#678 [11:50] <jp> can any one tell me what i need to do to load technic packs
#679 [11:50] <Necrodoom> can you give the errors?
#680 [11:50] <Necrodoom> jp: this is the incorrect channel
#681 [11:50] <Dannybravo78> Sorry my internet went out. Damn router. But I tried several times and it just simply wouldnt work
#682 [11:50] <Necrodoom> jp: no techicforums, #minecrafthelp cant help with mods
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#684 [11:51] <kingvoice> error: could not create java virtual machine
#685 [11:51] <kingvoice> error: a fata; exception has accoured. program will exit
#686 [11:51] <btr> it still won't let me log in and i changed the password. How to I fix that?
#687 [11:51] <btr> It still says user not premium
#688 [11:52] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, "wouldn't work" can you explain please?
#689 [11:53] <Necrodoom> btr: what is your username?
#690 [11:53] <kingvoice> someone!?
#691 [11:54] <btr> braedonrupp1234
#692 [11:54] <Calinou> kingvoice, well... I suggest waiting around in this IRC; maybe someone will help (no guarantees though.)
#693 [11:54] <Calinou> we're all volounteers remember, we do our best to help
#694 [11:54] <kingvoice> :? k
#695 [11:54] <Calinou> sorry
#696 [11:54] <Dannybravo78> Everytime I did it, nothing woud change in my world
#697 [11:55] <Necrodoom> !haspaid braedonrupp1234
#698 [11:55] <Necrodoom> er
#699 [11:55] <kingvoice> where are all the minecraft save files
#700 [11:55] <Necrodoom> ?? paid braedonrupp1234
#701 [11:55] <kingvoice> and where are all the force updates
#702 [11:56] <Calinou> %appdata%/.minecraft
#703 [11:56] <btr> What does ihaspaid braedonrupp1234 mean?
#704 [11:56] <Necrodoom> btr: "The account "braedonrupp1234" is not a premium Minecraft account!"
#705 [11:56] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, even when you type "op username" in console?
#706 [11:56] <Calinou> in the server console I mean
#707 [11:56] <Necrodoom> it says you never bought the game
#708 [11:56] <kingvoice> where can i find appdata
#709 [11:56] <kingvoice> on windowas
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#712 [11:57] <btr> I did buy the game i even printed out a page saying purchase complete and it even has my receit
#713 [11:57] <btr> receipt
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#715 [11:58] <Necrodoom> btr: are you sure its the right account you bought premium for?
#716 [11:58] <Calinou> you might have to wait up to three days, sometimes your account might not be in premium status immediatly
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#719 [11:59] <btr> Oh but if I bought it on a visa gift card will I have to wait three days like Calinou said?
#720 [12:00] <Calinou> you can't buy Minecraft using visa gift cards normally
#721 [12:00] <Dannybravo78> It keeps on telling me I don't have permission
#722 [12:00] <kingvoice> calinou do i need natives file
#723 [12:00] <Calinou> did you buy the game from minecraft.net?
#724 [12:00] <kingvoice> should i delite all the stuff inside it
#725 [12:00] <Calinou> kingvoice, what do you mean? it's a folder anyway
#726 [12:00] <Calinou> try deleting the "bin" folder, not "natives"
#727 [12:00] <kingvoice> theres stuff in my natives folder
#728 [12:00] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, even in the _server_ console?
#729 [12:00] <Calinou> the black box that normally appears (or it might be a menu, dunno)
#730 [12:01] <btr> then i should have my premium status but i don't have it. that means mojang took my money and i can't even play the game. thanks a lot:(
#731 [12:02] <kingvoice> what files should i delite
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#733 [12:02] <Calinou> btr, patience is a virtue
#734 [12:02] <kingvoice> and where do all the force update stuff go
#735 [12:02] <Calinou> kingvoice, the "bin" folder in .minecraft
#736 [12:02] <Calinou> force updates redownloads the bin folder and its contents
#737 [12:02] <miningPIGS> my minecraft game keeps crashing saying memory is full. Is there a way to fix this?
#738 [12:02] <kingvoice> still won't open ._.
#739 [12:03] <kingvoice> any other files i need to delite
#740 [12:03] <kingvoice> for more space
#741 [12:03] <Dannybravo78> I'll try again hang on
#742 [12:03] <btr> I have been waiting for 7 days
#743 [12:03] <Dannybravo78> Ok now I cant log into my account...
#744 [12:04] <miningPIGS> is there a way to stop my minecraft game to stop crashing telling me my memory is full
#745 [12:05] <kingvoice> miningpigs i think you may have the same error as me
#746 [12:05] <kingvoice> what does it say when you open it
#747 [12:06] <Necrodoom> kingvoice: not the same thing
#748 [12:07] <miningPIGS> yes, every 15 minutes it crashes and says memory is full. It say i can start back up my game from the main menu but it still wont stop. I have to close the game and start it again every 15 minutes]
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#750 [12:09] <miningPIGS> is there no assistance at all. My minecraft on the xbox 360 runs way better than on the PC. I got the pc one because it was said to be better and it is without the crashing.
#751 [12:09] <miningPIGS> How do you stop the constant crashing of my game?
#752 [12:09] <Calinou> ??> miningPIGS win/dxdiag
#753 [12:09] <VoxelHead> miningPIGS: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#754 [12:09] <VoxelHead> miningPIGS: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#755 [12:09] <kingvoice> so how long do i have to wait?
#756 [12:10] <Calinou> kingvoice, unknown. if you have to leave, you can leave and rejoin later (and ask again)
#757 [12:10] <Calinou> patience is a virtue :) you can do something else if you want while keeping irc open
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#759 [12:12] <miningPIGS> where are the win+R keys?
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#761 [12:13] <kingvoice> btw someone temporarily fixed it by telling me to go to system -> advance preformace setting -> advance -> virtual memory change and i changed it to 4000 to 4000
#762 [12:13] <Necrodoom> miningPIGS: win being the button with windows symbol on it
#763 [12:13] <Scott> the windows key is on the bottom row of the keyboard
#764 [12:13] <Scott> ?? win/key
#765 [12:13] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#766 [12:13] <miningPIGS> thanks
#767 [12:13] <Dannybravo78> Calinou?
#768 [12:13] <kingvoice> it helped me but then it happend again
#769 [12:20] <Calinou> Dannybravo78, huh, why can't you log in?
#770 [12:24] <miningPIGS> http://pastebin.com/A484Sutu
#771 [12:25] <Calinou> hmm, miningPIGS, that computer is good enough :P -- are you using any mods or texture packs?
#772 [12:25] <miningPIGS> texture packs and basic cheats that came in 1.3
#773 [12:25] <miningPIGS> well on one texture pack
#774 [12:25] <Calinou> use the default texture pack and see
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#776 [12:26] <miningPIGS> it still happened on there too. I tried it and it crashed. Not as much but it still did
#777 [12:28] <miningPIGS> can a texture pack do this to the game?
#778 [12:30] <Necrodoom> probably
#779 [12:30] <Necrodoom> if texture pack isnt standard size
#780 [12:30] <kingvoice> Yawn
#781 [12:31] <miningPIGS> well.. the game still crashes even on the default look of minecraft
#782 [12:31] <miningPIGS> as I said, just not as much
#783 [12:32] <Calinou> miningPIGS, singleplayer or multiplayer?
#784 [12:32] <miningPIGS> single
#785 [12:32] <Calinou> are you running any other programs?
#786 [12:33] <miningPIGS> only internet browser, nothing else
#787 [12:35] <miningPIGS> my game just crashed on the default texture pack
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#790 [12:36] <miningPIGS> is there no way to fix this?
#791 [12:37] <miningPIGS> could deleting the texture pack and launcher and redownloading it do any better?
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#793 [12:37] <miningPIGS> without texture pack
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#795 [12:42] <kingvoice> can you help me now?
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#797 [12:47] <kingvoice> *sigh*
#798 [12:48] <Calinou> kingvoice, repeat your question, so that people can know what's going on :P
#799 [12:48] <kingvoice> i get this error called java virtual machine
#800 [12:49] <kingvoice> could not create java virtual machine
#801 [12:49] <kingvoice> game won't open
#802 [12:50] <kingvoice> error: could not create java virtual machine error: a fata; exception has accoured. program will exit
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#804 [12:55] <Mirasaki> Does anyone know if there's a way to change your profile name..
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#806 [12:55] <kingvoice> ...
#807 [12:55] <kingvoice> will someone help me
#808 [12:55] <kingvoice> ive been waiting here for an hour
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#813 [13:09] <kingvoice> plz
#814 [13:09] <kingvoice> im now fed up
#815 [13:10] <kingvoice> please elp me
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#817 [13:13] <kingvoice> VOX!
#818 [13:13] <kingvoice> can you help me :)
#819 [13:13] <kingvoice> ...
#820 [13:13] <lutzee> VoxelHead is a bot
#821 [13:14] <kingvoice> >.<
#822 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> kingvoice win/dxdiag/bat
#823 [13:15] <VoxelHead> kingvoice: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#824 [13:15] <VoxelHead> kingvoice: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#825 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: please follow VoxelHead's direction
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#827 [13:17] <Pljz> I recently got a new Macbook pro with OS X, and i've downloaded the minecraft item to the desktop, but whenever i try to open it, it says the file has been damaged and it cannot open
#828 [13:17] <kingvoice> better not be a virus
#829 [13:17] <Pljz> can anyone offer help?
#830 [13:18] <kingvoice> and what does it do
#831 [13:18] <Pljz> what do you mean what does it do?
#832 [13:18] <lutzee> ??> Pljz mac/gatekeeper
#833 [13:18] <VoxelHead> Pljz: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#834 [13:19] <lutzee> kingvoice: i know the problem don't worry :p
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#841 [13:22] <Pljz> Thanks for the help VoxelHead
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#844 [13:25] <kingvoice> hey i done the thing
#845 [13:25] <kingvoice> im uploading it into pastebin
#846 [13:25] <will> why won't it let me hold a stack of something cause when I click on a stack or just any resource it moves it to the main bar, why is this?
#847 [13:25] <will> help me
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#850 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> will: doesn't sound like a normal Minecraft behaviour, could it be a mod?
#851 [13:26] <will> no i don't have mods
#852 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: I need to see the address
#853 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: can you help will?
#854 [13:27] <will> me?
#855 [13:27] <lutzee> tyteen4a03: simple, shift got stuck
#856 [13:27] <lutzee> will: restart the game if it persists say
#857 [13:27] <will> how do i unstuck it if u know what i mean
#858 [13:28] <lutzee> will just restart the game first
#859 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> kingvoice dont/pm
#860 [13:28] <will> right... done that
#861 [13:28] <VoxelHead> kingvoice: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#863 [13:28] <will> right....done that
#864 [13:28] <lutzee> will fixed?
#865 [13:28] <chase_> is there another way to go to full screen besides pressing f11?
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#867 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> chase_: I believe not
#868 [13:29] <kingvoice> http://mibpaste.com/wNWJAO 18:27 http://mibpaste.com/Ms7Bnz
#869 [13:29] <chase_> then how come everytime i press f11 the screen freezes and turns white?
#870 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: unfortunately, your computer's too old to play Minecraft
#871 [13:29] <will> ah ha thank you very much kind sir by the way i love minecraft, it is awesome!!!
#872 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> chase_: A mod?
#873 [13:29] <technicfail> I have recently re-downloaded mc and the new updates are not in effect on previous saved files. Any ideas?
#874 [13:30] <kingvoice> okay
#875 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> technicfail: New updates?
#876 [13:30] <kingvoice> but minecraft was working yesterday
#877 [13:30] <will> thank u lutzee
#878 [13:30] <chase_> nope, i have no mod
#879 [13:30] <technicfail> 1.3.1, no xp from mining, etc.
#880 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: You should not be able to start it in standalone mode
#881 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> technicfail forceupdate
#882 [13:30] <VoxelHead> technicfail: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#883 [13:30] <VoxelHead> technicfail: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#884 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: Try closing other applications
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#886 [13:31] <kingvoice> should it then work?
#887 [13:31] <technicfail> i did the force update, but did not see if it worked, lol. imma try that now XD
#888 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: What do you mean?
#889 [13:31] <kingvoice> tyteen4a03 kingvoice: Try closing other applications
#890 [13:32] <Calinou> technicfail, coal has a 66% chance of giving xp. iron and gold do not give xcp
#891 [13:32] <Calinou> xp*
#892 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: It should
#893 [13:32] <kingvoice> i tried that
#894 [13:32] <kingvoice> but it didn't work
#895 [13:32] <Calinou> you do not have to use any special kind of pickaxe. TNT also works
#896 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> kingvoice: Minecraft is not supposed to work on your machine in standalone mode, and receive major lag in web version
#897 [13:32] <Calinou> mining with bare hands even works but you don't get the item
#898 [13:33] <Calinou> (I think)
#899 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> yes, you don't get the item
#900 [13:33] <kingvoice> so minecraft won't work :(
#901 [13:33] <kingvoice> but it worked fine yesterday
#902 [13:34] <lutzee> kingvoice: is this a desktop?
#903 [13:34] <kingvoice> yh
#904 [13:35] <kingvoice> wait
#905 [13:35] <kingvoice> yh it is
#906 [13:36] <lutzee> kingvoice: get a dedicated graphics card
#907 [13:37] <kingvoice> im confused
#908 [13:37] <kingvoice> minecraft can't run on my comp
#909 [13:37] <kingvoice> but it worked yesterday
#910 [13:38] <lutzee> kingvoice: i don't believe your integrated graphics is liked by minecraft
#911 [13:38] <technicfail> tyteen, i tried the forceupdate, but nothing happened
#912 [13:38] <kingvoice> k
#913 [13:39] <lutzee> gtg now
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#915 [13:43] <technicfail> forceupdate is not installing 1.3.1, etc., on my comp. Yesterday i re-installed minecraft on my comp but it is still the previous version. any ideas?
#916 [13:46] <Necrodoom> you using technic pack or is that just a coincidence in name?
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#919 [13:46] <undead> Im trying to use a backup of my world and its not working
#920 [13:47] <technicfail> not using any texture pack.
#921 [13:47] <technicfail> still operating 1.2.5 :(
#922 [13:47] <undead> Im trying to use a backup of my world and its not working
#923 [13:47] <technicfail> and i want 1.3.1/1.3.2
#924 [13:47] <undead> Im trying to use a backup of my world and its not working
#925 [13:48] <undead> Can anyone help
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#927 [13:52] <technicfail> 1.3.1 is not forceupdating. any ideas?
#928 [13:56] <lutzee> ??> technicfail win/reinst
#929 [13:56] <VoxelHead> technicfail: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#930 [13:56] <VoxelHead> technicfail: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#934 [14:01] <technicfail> lutzee: thank you, that worked. have a good day all
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#936 [14:03] <undead> My world isn't working . I put it in saves and i cant see it when i click singleplayer
#937 [14:05] <lutzee> undead: it has a level.dat file in the worlds folder right?
#938 [14:05] <undead> yes
#939 [14:06] <lutzee> hmm, sometimes they get pushed to the very bottom of the saves list in minecraft
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#941 [14:08] <undead> maybe the problem is that there are over 500 ppl in the players file ?
#942 [14:08] <undead> its a multiplayer world
#943 [14:08] <undead> But it should work
#944 [14:09] <undead> Maybe i could send it to you ?
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#946 [14:09] <lutzee> Er, i'm ot at liberty to go opening a world from someone else
#947 [14:10] <undead> its not like i put a virus in it
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#949 [14:10] <undead> Maybe i could take screenies?
#950 [14:11] <undead> or a video
#951 [14:12] <undead> What is best ?
#952 [14:13] <pyromaniac> hey guys is there a channel that has nerdy poeple that i could ask book related questions too ?
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#954 [14:13] <undead> #minecrafthelp
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#959 [14:14] <pyromaniac> i cant seem to find any channels that would fit the bill
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#961 [14:16] <Martok88> hi, i need help figuring out if a gift code is valid. on my account page it just says "gift codes", not "unused" or "you have sent the game to..."
#962 [14:18] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac: The question's about?
#963 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Martok88: I'm not sure how to verify too, but you can certainly ask
#964 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Martok88: Mojang about it, they can be reached at help.mojang.com
#965 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Martok88: warning though, they have 2 months worth of emails to deal with first
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#967 [14:20] <pyromaniac> a book about a dog but the dog gets shot and dies defending his master
#968 [14:20] <undead> lutzee
#969 [14:20] <pyromaniac> cant seem to find a good room to ask it in
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#971 [14:21] <pyromaniac> i cant remember the name of it lol it was a good book but was sad
#972 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac: Old Yeller?
#973 [14:22] <undead> lol
#974 [14:22] <pyromaniac> was the dog shot ?
#975 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac: maybe not, he was shot because the dog's too old
#976 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> I really haven't seen the film or the story
#977 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> he died because the dog protected the wolf from attacking the farm, and got rabies from the wolf
#978 [14:24] <lutzee> Martok88: i replied to this before if the code is used it would say (redeemed by <player name here>)
#979 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> pyromaniac: not sure if that's the story, but I guess it can be seen as "defending his master", just not the master himself
#980 [14:24] <pyromaniac> No old yeller isnt it. I was thinking white fang he was shot but he didnt die
#981 [14:25] <pyromaniac> so white fang isnt it
#982 [14:26] <undead> lutzee
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#984 [14:26] <undead> heres the video of my world file http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2igiuqt&s=6
#985 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Yeller was not shot because he was old.
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#987 [14:27] <Grim_Reaper> He was shot because he was made of mold
#988 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Ur jnf fubhg orpnhfr ur jrag enovq nsgre fnivat gur snzvyl sebz orvat nggnpxrq ol n enovq navzny.
#989 [14:27] <Grim_Reaper> \o
#990 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> o/
#991 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> ?
#992 [14:28] * Grim_Reaper shrugs
#992 [14:28] <pyromaniac> lol
#993 [14:29] * undead Will anyone help me please ?
#993 [14:30] <undead> My world isn't working ! please help i put a lot of work into it
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#995 [14:30] <tyteen4a03> It ??? (was?) ????? because of that ????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ol ? ????? ??????.
#996 [14:31] <pyromaniac> well guys i guess i will go and start pondering about that books name untill i think of it
#997 [14:31] <pyromaniac> well thanks anyways
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#999 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> his situation.. it's happened to me a lot of times
#1000 [14:31] <undead> Me ?
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#1003 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: rot13.
#1004 [14:33] <undead> My world isn't working ! please help i put a lot of work into it
#1005 [14:33] <undead> I dont see it in single player when i press single player
#1006 [14:33] <Selbram> undead, what happens when you fire up minecraft
#1007 [14:34] <undead> Mojang logo. then the menu with singleplayer multiplayer comes up
#1008 [14:34] <Selbram> when you click singleplayer what do you see
#1009 [14:35] <undead> all of my worlds except 1
#1010 [14:35] <undead> the one i need
#1011 [14:35] <undead> I took a video of the file
#1012 [14:35] <undead> Would you like to c?
#1013 [14:35] <undead> heres the video of my world file http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2igiuqt&s=6
#1014 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> undead: remove all worlds from .minecraft/saves other than the world in question
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#1034 [15:03] <Dragon_fruit_> I cant run minecraft or download it what should I do
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#1037 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: hmm, I thought it was just stuff shifting place
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#1041 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: if by shifting place, you mean alphabetically, that's what rot13 is.
#1042 [15:10] <sjoerd> i've download minecraft one time before but i've trite to instal a mod but no mine craft dosent startup
#1043 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> sjoerd mods
#1044 [15:10] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1045 [15:10] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1047 [15:11] <sjoerd> yes mods
#1048 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> no mods.
#1049 [15:11] * DopeGhoti points up
#1049 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> mkrning, HiThere.
#1050 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> er, morning even
#1051 [15:11] <HiThere> in that case, I shall say good day
#1052 [15:11] <sjoerd> but i cant startup minecraft and i've trite download it again but i cant
#1053 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> sjoerd specs
#1054 [15:12] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
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#1056 [15:13] <sjoerd> i use a mac
#1057 [15:13] <rymate1234> that doesn't help
#1058 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> sjoerd mac/reinst
#1059 [15:13] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1060 [15:13] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1061 [15:14] <HiThere> I can't imagine trying to help Mac users, I tried to help my brother once with something and it was a nightmare
#1062 [15:14] <HiThere> I couldn't even right click, it was absurd
#1063 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> HiThere: I don't know why that would be; Mac OS has supported multiple mouse buttons for decades.
#1064 [15:15] <HiThere> well his mouse only had one button o.O
#1065 [15:15] <rymate1234> HiThere: you do cmd+click
#1066 [15:15] <rymate1234> I think
#1067 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> rymate1234: or just right-click. Though some people go into System Preference and disable it
#1068 [15:16] <sjoerd> i cant do that because i delete it and try to donwload it again but that dosetn work
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#1071 [15:18] <HiThere> I just do not like those things, I refuse to use them =\ but I do have a bit of a problem with Minecraft and any help would be greatly appreciated. Whenever I try to click, mainly right click, for some reason it happens twice. I have tried reducing all settings for maximum fps, and I am getting about 100, but it is still happening. I have used multiple mouses as well. In case it is relevant, I have a Samsung notebook, I forget the nam
#1072 [15:18] <HiThere> I am attempting to name the thing as we speak
#1073 [15:19] <sjoerd> i cant do that because i delete it and try to donwload it again but that dosetn work, its say that its damagas
#1074 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: by shifting place I mean places on the keyboard :P
#1075 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> sjoerd mac/gatekeeper
#1076 [15:20] <VoxelHead> sjoerd: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1077 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> HiThere: Does this problem only occur with the laptop's built-in trackpad, or does is also occur if you plug in an actual mouse?
#1078 [15:20] <HiThere> the trackpad as well as a usb mouse
#1079 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> in that case, it might be a problem with your mouse settings
#1080 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Specifically, look for anything pertaining to disabling the mouse while typing
#1081 [15:21] <HiThere> it is weird because it comes and goes, sometimes it does a normal click, other times it will do nothing but double
#1082 [15:22] <HiThere> but my fps is always in the ~100 range
#1083 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Which is why I don't think it's actually a Minecraft issue.
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#1085 [15:23] <sjoerd> can i get back my maps and texurepacks??
#1086 [15:23] <HiThere> agh I hate windows 7, can't find anything, I miss xp, I knew that like the back of my hand...
#1087 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> I know the feeling
#1088 [15:24] <HiThere> then again every time I've upgraded I've had that feeling, best years of my childhood were on 3.1
#1089 [15:24] <sjoerd> can i get back my maps and texurepacks??
#1090 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> sjoerd: did you delete them?
#1091 [15:24] <sjoerd> now i've delete minecraft
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#1095 [15:25] <bontavi> hmm i need when i try to play minecraft cpu usage jumps over 50%
#1096 [15:25] <bontavi> and i cant play
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#1099 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> if your CPU load is onlt 50%, that should not be a problem.
#1100 [15:25] <HiThere> well, I've come to the conclusion that nothing gets double clicked except minecraft
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#1103 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> HiThere win/profile
#1104 [15:26] <VoxelHead> HiThere: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1105 [15:26] <bontavi> dope hmm cpu i5-2500k
#1106 [15:26] <sjoerd> can somebody of mojang give back my maps or can i get them self
#1107 [15:26] <VoxelHead> HiThere: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1109 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> sjoerd: your maps are stored on your computer. If you deleted them, look in the Trash for a folder called 'saves'
#1110 [15:27] <HiThere> I should have thought of that, I tried that last time I had a problem and it fixed it, I'll do that right now
#1111 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> HiThere: good luck!
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#1113 [15:28] <sjoerd> can somebody of mojang give back my maps or can i get them self i've dont delete it my mine craft was chrachet and i have to dowload it again but my maps are gone
#1114 [15:29] <Morrolan> Maps aren't saved online, they're saved locally, on your computer.
#1115 [15:29] <Morrolan> Assuming you didn't delete the .minecraft folder, they'll still be there.
#1116 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> sjoerd: For the second time: your maps are stored on your computer. If you deleted them, look in the Trash for a folder called 'saves'
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#1118 [15:37] <sjoerd> thnx it help me a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#1126 [15:53] <crazypug663> h
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#1128 [15:54] <crazypug663> hello?
#1129 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#1130 [15:54] <Master_Commando> hi
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#1132 [15:55] <Master_Commando> i cant play minecraft, it keeps telling me i need to update my video card drivers. What do i do?
#1133 [15:55] <Morrolan> Did you.... try to update your video card drivers?
#1134 [15:56] <Master_Commando> lol, yeah, but i dont know where to go. I have a Dell Inspiron 15.
#1135 [15:57] <Morrolan> press win+r -> "dxdiag.exe" -> enter -> Display tab
#1136 [15:57] <Morrolan> There you'll see what graphics card you've got.
#1137 [15:57] <Master_Commando> cool, thanks
#1138 [15:59] <Morrolan> Chances are there'll be two listed, an integrated one, and a dedicated one. Don't bother with the "Intel HD graphics" one, find out what dedicated graphics card you've got in that laptop.
#1139 [15:59] <Morrolan> (Will be either an AMD or an Nvidia one, most likely)
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#1141 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Betting it still has an integrated intel chipset
#1142 [16:00] <Morrolan> Interweb says there's a AMD Radeon HD 7730 M built in.
#1143 [16:00] <Morrolan> Into the 15R, that is.
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#1145 [16:00] <Morrolan> We'll see. :)
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#1149 [16:02] <undead> .devoice
#1150 [16:02] <undead> .op
#1151 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. no.
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#1160 [16:14] <tyteen4a03> lol Morrolan
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#1206 [17:33] <crazedfurby> It's taking an unusually long time for the email verification to come. whats the average wait time for the confirmation email?
#1207 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
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#1210 [17:37] <BallsOS> Hi there, I'm having an issue regarding a 1.3.2 server. Everytime I log in or teleport somewhere, I lag really badly for about 30 seconds. Like I can't talk or do anything while I see the map load, then everything goes back to the way it was. It never did this on 1.2.5. It started happening on 1.3.1. I was wondering if this was a Minecraft problem?
#1211 [17:37] <not> hi
#1212 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> hi not and BallsOS
#1213 [17:37] <not> i need
#1214 [17:37] <not> help
#1215 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> not do/,
#1216 [17:37] <VoxelHead> not: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#1217 [17:37] <not> it been more then an hour
#1218 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: what are the specifications of the server?
#1219 [17:38] <BallsOS> Intel Xeon E3-1240 16GB DDR3 RAM 60GB SSD.
#1220 [17:38] <not> it has been more then an hour and i can't play online.
#1221 [17:38] <tyteen4a03> not: Can you describe the issue more?
#1222 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: do you see particularly high CPU or IO load when this happens? Are others affected?
#1223 [17:39] <not> so i bought the game
#1224 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Are there any mods on the server, or your client?
#1225 [17:39] <not> i don't know
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#1228 [17:40] <BallsOS> If I teleport somewhere, I can type something. Other people can see my text but I can't see any form of text or player movement for about 30 seconds. Everyone else has this issue on the server since 1.3.1 and now 1.3.2. The CPU is fine when this happens. And it only affected the player teleporting or logging in.
#1229 [17:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> not irc/multitasking
#1230 [17:40] <VoxelHead> not: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1231 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: do you see particularly high CPU or IO load when this happens? Are others affected?
#1232 [17:40] <lutzee> not, so you are saying you don't have premium status even though you have paid?
#1233 [17:40] <not> so what do i do if i can't play online and i brought rthe game
#1234 [17:41] <tyteen4a03> not: Can you not play online, because of your computer or because of your account?
#1235 [17:41] <tyteen4a03> not: if there's an error message, can you show us it?
#1236 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: Is there anything else running on the server? Hare there any mods on the server or your client?
#1237 [17:41] <not> beecause of my account
#1238 [17:41] <lutzee> okay not, what is your account name?
#1239 [17:41] <not> nottoxic
#1240 [17:41] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Just a second, I'm testing the CPU.
#1241 [17:41] <lutzee> !paid nottoxic
#1242 [17:41] <lutzee> Well that covers that
#1243 [17:41] * Eddie gasps!
#1243 [17:41] <not> i just did
#1244 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> not: how long ago?
#1245 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> ??> not payment
#1246 [17:42] <VoxelHead> not: (payment) Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#1247 [17:42] <VoxelHead> not: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/B1N48h
#1248 [17:42] <not> at 7:30 am
#1249 [17:42] <not> today
#1250 [17:42] <not> 7:30 am
#1251 [17:42] <tyteen4a03> not: It's now 5:42 PM your time, it will take a bit of time to process it
#1252 [17:42] <tyteen4a03> not: What payment provider did you use?
#1253 [17:43] <not> paypal
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#1255 [17:43] <tyteen4a03> not: hmm, normal
#1256 [17:43] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: The CPU is fine. No jumps at all and I'm using a Beta Build of Bukkit. However, the same issue occured on Vanilla. I'm running a MySQL server and a website which I did on 1.2.5 without any issues. The server isn't struggling to run all of these resources.
#1257 [17:43] <not> i got the code
#1258 [17:44] <not> that they send when it say you have brought the game
#1259 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> not: If it still doesn't work after a few days, you can contact mojang about it
#1260 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> not: Did you purchase a gift code?
#1261 [17:44] <not> ok
#1262 [17:44] <not> n
#1263 [17:44] <not> no
#1264 [17:44] <tyteen4a03> not: What code are referring to?
#1265 [17:45] <lutzee> not has any transaction occured when you sign into you paypal account?
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#1267 [17:45] <not> it they give u a code say keep this code just in case of a problem or something like that
#1268 [17:46] <tyteen4a03> not: Ah, keep it then, you will need it
#1269 [17:46] <tyteen4a03> not: meanwhile, enjoy life and have a great dinner :)
#1270 [17:46] <not> i love bacon guy and thanks for all your help
#1271 [17:47] <lutzee> tyteen4a03: it says that when you receive a receipt number
#1272 [17:47] <lutzee> You should have checked to see if there was a transaction showing in paypal >.>
#1273 [17:48] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: if it doesn't he will come back in a few days, and I don't think he has the technical skills to do it
#1274 [17:49] <tyteen4a03> I think at this point it isn't really necessary yet
#1275 [17:50] <lutzee> I guess,
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#1277 [17:51] <BallsOS> Can someone tell me if there's a chunk loading lag problem with 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 servers?
#1278 [17:52] <dan_> I get a lockup everytime I try to download. ???
#1279 [17:52] <lutzee> Nope
#1280 [17:52] <lutzee> dan_: what antivirus do you use?
#1281 [17:52] <dan_> Norton
#1282 [17:53] <tyteen4a03> dan_: uninstall it
#1283 [17:53] <dan_> ok thx
#1284 [17:53] <BallsOS> Really? No.. I run Norton 360 and it runs just fine.
#1285 [17:53] <lutzee> dan_: and install Microsoft security essentials
#1286 [17:53] <tyteen4a03> dan_: or avast!
#1287 [17:53] <lutzee> BallsOS: norton is the worst thing on the planet
#1288 [17:53] <tyteen4a03> BallsOS: Norton is the crappiest AntiVirus that gets in everybody's way
#1289 [17:53] <tyteen4a03> BallsOS: another is AVG\
#1290 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Norton used to be good in the 1980s
#1291 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> just like AVG used to be good in the 1990 and 2000's
#1292 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> they've grown past their usefulness
#1293 [17:54] <BallsOS> Any ways, back to my question. No one knows if there's a lag problem when joning a standard 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 server?
#1294 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> No, not on my server
#1295 [17:54] <lutzee> BallsOS: i've not seen such
#1296 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: try running without the mods
#1297 [17:54] <tyteen4a03> BallsOS: not as far as I'm concerned, but we've received some report about lag-ness on internal servers
#1298 [17:54] <dan_> I am running norton internet security
#1299 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> dan_: sorry to hear that.
#1300 [17:55] <BallsOS> Cheers for the help. I did DopeGhoti, I'm still experiencing terrible lag while the map loads then it goes. Could this be an issue with running a server from a "multicore" CPU?
#1301 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: I doubt it; MC isn't multicore-aware
#1302 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> you _could_ try setting the Java process's affinity to one core
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#1304 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> did you say that you had tried running a vanilla, non-modded server, with the same problem?
#1305 [17:57] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Yes. Same issue, you can try to connect if you want, you'll know what I mean.
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#1308 [17:57] <teetor> !check tekkit.deserver.tk
#1309 [17:57] <teetor> !check deserver.tk
#1310 [17:57] <teetor> it is aubot...
#1311 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: I would, but I am at work.
#1312 [17:58] <teetor> What do you need help with BallsOS?
#1313 [17:58] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Oh, that's ok. Thanks anyways.
#1314 [17:58] <lutzee> teetor: what software is it running?
#1315 [17:58] <teetor> ones a tekkit server, other one is vanilla
#1316 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: what JRE is the server running on?
#1317 [17:58] <teetor> uh the 1.3 server code for vanilla, and 1.2.5 tekkit jar
#1318 [17:59] <lutzee> yeah it might not like tekkit
#1319 [17:59] <lutzee> !check xoxcraft.com
#1320 [17:59] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: JRE7. Should the server be run on JRE6 instead?
#1321 [17:59] <lutzee> hmmm
#1322 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: definitely
#1323 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> BallsOS java/1.6
#1324 [17:59] <VoxelHead> BallsOS: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#1325 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> 1.7 is a known problem factor with Minecraft.
#1326 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> in many cases, 1.7 works just fine, but 1.6 fixes many odd issues.
#1327 [18:00] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: I was running the 1.2.5 server on JRE7 which is really weird haha. Thanks anyways, I'll get that installed and let you know how I go :)
#1328 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: good luck!
#1329 [18:04] <teetor> anyone good with bukkit systems?
#1330 [18:04] <teetor> anyone good with bukkit systems?
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#1332 [18:05] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: I uninstalled any trace of JRE7 and installed JRE6 and I'm still having this problem. The dedicated server isn't showing any forms of resource related lag or anything.
#1333 [18:06] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: I should mention that these tests are being done on a Vanilla server.
#1334 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: Hmm.
#1335 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried yet setting process affinity?
#1336 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> I don't think it'll make any difference, but it's worth a shot
#1337 [18:07] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Yes, same issue. I tried setting it to CPU 0, no change. I then tried changing it to only CPU 1, no change at all.
#1338 [18:07] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Once the chunks finish loading, the client stops lagging.
#1339 [18:08] <BallsOS> But if he dies and respawns at the starting position, the chunks load again and the lag comes back.
#1340 [18:09] <BallsOS> I noticed that if I send a message, the console receives it on time but the client doesn't see his own message for about 20 - 30 seconds. Uploading is fine but downloading is another story there.
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#1342 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> okay.. this is scanning to me like a network issue on the client's side. But you say this happens to all clients?
#1343 [18:15] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Correct.
#1344 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> can you do a quick test on the server at speedtest.net ?
#1345 [18:16] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: Sure, just a sec.
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#1352 [18:26] <Shadow90655> I just bought minecraft for my Mac...how do you dowload it properly? I have been trying to install but when i go to log in it says "Error not downloaded"
#1353 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1354 [18:27] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1355 [18:29] <lutzee> DiskDaemon: that won't help he's on 10.5.8
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#1357 [18:29] <aefwa> hey ug
#1358 [18:29] <aefwa> wug
#1359 [18:29] <lutzee> hmm
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#1363 [18:30] <aefwa> hey\
#1364 [18:30] <aefwa> help
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#1367 [18:31] <ck> my computer crashed a.d crashes opo start up after using a mod...what the heck is going on
#1368 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#1369 [18:32] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1370 [18:32] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1371 [18:32] <aefwa> is wug on?
#1372 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> Another good place to get help on how to install mods is at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#1375 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> ??+ wiki/mods|http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#1377 [18:39] <Shadow90655> Can minecraft still be downloaded for mac version 10.5.8? and how?
#1378 [18:40] <lutzee> Shadow90655: what does it say when you try to log in
#1379 [18:40] <lutzee> ?
#1380 [18:40] <Shadow90655> Error not downloaded
#1381 [18:40] <lutzee> It should say something else just to the left
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#1384 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> yes, it can.
#1385 [18:41] <Shadow90655> It says login failed
#1386 [18:42] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: I just ran the 1.2.5 server without any problems. It has to be something with 1.3.1+
#1387 [18:42] <lutzee> Shadow90655: sounds like your username/password is incorrect
#1388 [18:43] <Shadow90655> Can i check that on the website?
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#1391 [18:46] <lutzee> Shadow90655: yes try log into the website
#1392 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: I believe you, but I find it utterly baffling
#1393 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> unless it has something to do with the taller chunks
#1394 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> BallsOS: could you try genning a new world for the purposes of testing?
#1395 [18:49] <BallsOS> DopeGhoti: I did with the Vanilla server about 10 minutes ago.
#1396 [18:49] <BallsOS> New world on a 1.3.2 Vanilla server with the exact same issue.
#1397 [18:50] <Shadow90655> Thanks so much! I got my username wrong! All is good now
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#1402 [18:54] <sorahero05> i cant play the game on my computer and i did everything i could. how do i make it work? everytime i open up the game i enter a world and then it sends me to the main menu and the window closes.
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#1404 [18:56] <sorahero05> hello?
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#1409 [19:09] <StupidMark446> Well, i need some minecrafthelp on finding a duplication exploit/hack download..... Or can anyone recommend a ch to find it on...
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#1411 [19:10] <StupidMark446> ive been looking for atleat a month now
#1412 [19:10] <StupidMark446> oh and is an exploit like a hack, or a glitch?
#1413 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> StupidMark446: Sorry, we have no info here on that sort of thing
#1414 [19:10] <StupidMark446> kk thanks for telling me, appreciate it
#1415 [19:10] <StupidMark446> kk thanks for telling me, appreciate it
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#1417 [19:11] <idigem> I'm on here for my son. He has not been able to use the Minecraft we bought about 6 montths ago. For the last two weeks when he clicks the executable file he gets this message "Cannot create the Java Virtual Machine". Please help.
#1418 [19:12] <tyteen4a03> idigem: Any mods installed?
#1419 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> Bestest dad ever :)
#1420 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> Or Mother, alternatively.
#1421 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> idigem specs
#1422 [19:12] <VoxelHead> idigem: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1423 [19:13] <idigem> It's an Dell XPS with XP
#1424 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> idigem: if you right-click 'My Computer' and select Properties, what Service Pack does it say you have installed?
#1425 [19:15] <idigem> service pack 3
#1426 [19:15] <idigem> I believe I have 2 or 4 gb of ram
#1427 [19:16] <idigem> The only thing I can think is my wife saw something that alarmed her and was told by another individual to get spybot, which she did and ran it. I'm thinking spybot my have deleted a file that is necessary for minecraft to run - but I'm not computer expert, so I have no idea
#1428 [19:16] <idigem> The only thing I can think is my wife saw something that alarmed her and was told by another individual to get spybot, which she did and ran it. I'm thinking spybot my have deleted a file that is necessary for minecraft to run - but I'm not computer expert, so I have no idea
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#1431 [19:18] <Ultimatix> test
#1432 [19:18] <Ultimatix> hello, someone there? :)
#1433 [19:18] <lutzee> Yes people are here :)
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#1435 [19:19] <Ultimatix> got some seconds?
#1436 [19:19] <Ultimatix> could you try to connect ( minecraft ingame server ) 88.70.88.19:25565
#1437 [19:19] <lutzee> !check 88.70.88.19
#1438 [19:19] <Ultimatix> im trying to create a minecraft server on my own laptop but it doesnt works :x
#1439 [19:19] <lutzee> Ultimatix: well seems to be okay
#1440 [19:20] <lutzee> sorts of
#1441 [19:20] <Ultimatix> then try to connect
#1442 [19:20] <Ultimatix> !check 88.70.88.19:25565
#1443 [19:20] <Ultimatix> :(
#1444 [19:21] <idigem> How do I find out what version of Java I have?
#1445 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> idigem: I would recommend removing and reinstalling Java
#1446 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> idigem win/javara
#1447 [19:21] <VoxelHead> idigem: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1448 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> then:
#1449 [19:21] <VoxelHead> idigem: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1450 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> idigem java/1.6
#1451 [19:21] <VoxelHead> idigem: (java/1.6) To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u35-downloads-1836473.html
#1452 [19:21] <lutzee> Ultimatix: i don't feel i need too, but i've been seeing that response before for a server
#1453 [19:21] <Ultimatix> the problem is: it wont works
#1454 [19:21] <idigem> Thank you! I give that a shot.
#1455 [19:22] <Ultimatix> i a) opened 25565 in my router b) forwarded the port to my computer c) startet minecraft server on that ip and port
#1456 [19:22] <DiskDaemon> TYpically by going to the Control Panel and in to Java (search for it at top right) where you can go to the Java tab and in to View to see which ones you have installed
#1457 [19:22] <Ultimatix> and followed all instructions
#1458 [19:23] <Ultimatix> i can connect with my local 192.168.x.x ip ... but not with the ip of the router
#1459 [19:23] <Ultimatix> wic should forward it
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#1461 [19:24] <lutzee> Ultimatix: the port forwarding is working, the bot is getting a response from the server
#1462 [19:24] <Ultimatix> yes but i cant join my server
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#1464 [19:25] <lutzee> Ultimatix: often it is not possible to join back in via your external IP
#1465 [19:25] <Ultimatix> then .. could you try please? :)
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#1467 [19:26] <Ultimatix> 88.70.88.19:25565
#1468 [19:26] <aefwa> wug
#1469 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> !check 88.70.88.19:25565
#1470 [19:26] <lutzee> Ultimatix: may i ask, what sort of server software are you using?
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#1472 [19:26] <Ultimatix> downloaded minecraft_server.exe
#1473 [19:26] <Ultimatix> from minecraft.net
#1474 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> how peculiar
#1475 [19:26] <Ultimatix> nothing illegal
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#1477 [19:28] <lutzee> Ultimatix: i wasn't suspecting that, just confused at why it's saying it doesn't seem like minecraft server, when i run it and make it check all seems fine
#1478 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Let's see if it works with my own
#1479 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> !check 202.0.57.62:25565
#1480 [19:29] <lutzee> I checked too, it was fine for mine
#1481 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> That was with 1.3.1, and now I'll download the server for 1.3.2
#1482 [19:29] <Ultimatix> !check 88.70.88.19:25565
#1483 [19:29] <Ultimatix> O_O
#1484 [19:29] <Ultimatix> can u try to connect?
#1485 [19:29] <lutzee> huh
#1486 [19:29] <Ultimatix> now?
#1487 [19:29] <Ultimatix> seems to work
#1488 [19:29] <lutzee> I'm downloading 1.3.2 now
#1489 [19:29] <Ultimatix> the motd is right
#1490 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> !check 202.0.57.62:25565
#1491 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> Yep, all seems good there with 1.3.2 as well
#1492 [19:31] <Wug> for the love of christ
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#1495 [19:32] <jackminer> When I try to open a downloaded purchase of mincraft on Mac OS X mountain lion I get "mine craft is damaged and can't be opened. you should move it to the trash". Just paid 26$ for this.... what is going on?
#1496 [19:32] <Ultimatix> thx lutzee a lot :)
#1497 [19:32] <lutzee> ??> jackminer mac/gatekeeper
#1498 [19:32] <VoxelHead> jackminer: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1499 [19:33] <Ultimatix> !check 88.70.88.19:25565
#1500 [19:35] <Ultimatix> !check 88.70.88.19:25565
#1501 [19:35] <Ultimatix> sorry for the checks ... im reactivating firewall etc stuff ;D
#1502 [19:35] <lutzee> Ultimatix: that shouldn't block anything really
#1503 [19:36] <Ultimatix> well i thougt
#1504 [19:36] <Ultimatix> i tryed to connect via an VM to it and more
#1505 [19:36] <Ultimatix> but its the loopback prob
#1506 [19:36] <Ultimatix> its fine
#1507 [19:36] <Ultimatix> :D
#1508 [19:37] <Ultimatix> !check martin-server.dyndns.org:25565
#1509 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> If you like, you can msg aubot to privately test things
#1510 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> for example
#1511 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> /msg AuBot !check 202.0.57.62:25565
#1512 [19:37] <Ultimatix> ah thanks
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#1514 [19:38] <Ultimatix> i will stop spamming ;)
#1515 [19:38] <Wug> Ultimatix: protip
#1516 [19:38] <Wug> never mind
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#1518 [19:38] <Wug> carry on
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#1522 [19:54] <Ultimatix> thx for help, bye :)
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#1526 [20:03] <MrReXiO> Hi I need help with Minecraft in Ubuntu 12.04
#1527 [20:03] <MrReXiO> I think Java is working but the only thing I see is a black square after saying 'Done loading' any help?
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#1543 [20:42] <meh> When I try to run my server, it tells me that the server "failed to bind to port" What does that mean and what do I do to fix it?
#1544 [20:43] <lutzee> meh: sounds like you have a server already running, or something else is using that port
#1545 [20:43] <meh> Well, what I did is put my server on a jumpdrive, and tried running it on a different computer in the same house
#1546 [20:43] <meh> is that the issue ?
#1547 [20:43] <meh> The server is not running on comp 1.
#1548 [20:45] <lutzee> meh, right, well restart comp 1 and try again
#1549 [20:46] <meh> Okay. The jumpdrive wasnt the issue though, right ?
#1550 [20:48] <Wug> try disabling your firewall
#1551 [20:50] <meh> I tried lowering the firewall, I get the same error message.
#1552 [20:50] <meh> This is a doozy
#1553 [20:50] <meh> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#1554 [20:52] * AwayK is now known as :BusyK
#1555 [20:54] <meh> Has anyone here tried moving your online server from comp to comp using a jumpdrive?
#1556 [20:54] <meh> I can;t get it to work.
#1557 [20:54] <meh> *comps are in the same house*
#1558 [20:54] <meh> *assuming same internet ip
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#1560 [20:58] <lutzee> meh, like i said restart comp 1
#1561 [20:59] <meh> I tried that : /
#1562 [20:59] <Wug> meh: you're sure all of your firewalls are down
#1563 [21:00] <Wug> oh, and did you set something on the server-ip line in the config
#1564 [21:01] <meh> yes
#1565 [21:01] <meh> I have norton, and I told it to lower all protection
#1566 [21:01] <meh> I shouldn't have said that over the net though >.<
#1567 [21:02] <meh> Gotta raise it now haha
#1568 [21:02] <meh> But it didn't work
#1569 [21:02] <meh> And no, I haven't touched any configs
#1570 [21:02] <meh> Since the transer
#1571 [21:02] <meh> transfer
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#1573 [21:02] <Wug> yeah well
#1574 [21:02] <Wug> did you set it before then
#1575 [21:02] <meh> yes
#1576 [21:02] <Wug> so you're trying to bind to a local ip that doesnt exist
#1577 [21:03] <meh> Okay, what do I do then
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#1579 [21:03] <Wug> clear the server-ip line
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#1582 [21:03] <meh> IT WORKED!
#1583 [21:04] <meh> THANK YOU DUDE!
#1584 [21:04] <sunyshoremon> Is there something that can tell me if my pluygins need to be updated or is there something that can update my plugins for me? Like a plugin that does that.
#1585 [21:04] <meh> OR DUDETTE!
#1586 [21:04] <Wug> leave the line blank
#1587 [21:04] <Wug> don't put anything on it
#1588 [21:04] <meh> Okay.
#1589 [21:04] <Wug> it's got a specific purpose
#1590 [21:04] <sunyshoremon> Is there something that can tell me if my pluygins need to be updated or is there something that can update my plugins for me? Like a plugin that does that.
#1591 [21:04] <meh> What is that?
#1592 [21:04] <Wug> as you noticed, it restricts what ips the server will bind to
#1593 [21:04] <sunyshoremon> Is there something that can tell me if my pluygins need to be updated or is there something that can update my plugins for me? Like a plugin that does that.
#1594 [21:05] <Wug> to home users, this equates to not working for no reason
#1595 [21:05] <sunyshoremon> Is there something that can tell me if my pluygins need to be updated or is there something that can update my plugins for me? Like a plugin that does that.
#1596 [21:05] <Wug> shut up
#1597 [21:05] <Wug> im talking to someone else
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#1599 [21:06] <meh> Hm.
#1600 [21:06] <Wug> meh: but to enterprise hosts who may have more than one public ip address on a machine, it allows them to specify a one
#1601 [21:06] <Wug> a specific one*
#1602 [21:06] <meh> Okay, I think that makes sense to me.
#1603 [21:06] <meh> But, I ran into another issue.
#1604 [21:06] <Wug> sunyshoremon: no idea
#1605 [21:06] <Wug> ask in #bukkit
#1606 [21:06] <lutzee> sunyshoremon: A) don't spam EVER, B) ask in #bukkit
#1607 [21:06] <meh> The game itself recongizes that I have a server, but my connection keeps timing out.
#1608 [21:06] <sunyshoremon> Is there something that can tell me if my pluygins need to be updated or is there something that can update my plugins for me? Like a plugin that does that.
#1609 [21:06] <meh> What does that mean
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#1612 [21:07] <Wug> meh: is your firewall back on
#1613 [21:08] <Wug> meh: use the channel
#1614 [21:08] <fox_> is diskdaemon in the chat room
#1615 [21:08] <Wug> fox_: anyone can help you
#1616 [21:08] <meh> no it's not
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#1618 [21:09] <Wug> meh: are you connecting from the computer the server is running on
#1619 [21:09] <meh> yes
#1620 [21:09] <Wug> does connecting to 127.0.0.1 work
#1621 [21:10] <meh> where would I type that
#1622 [21:10] <Wug> direct connect
#1623 [21:10] <fox_> well hes the one that knows the problem with my minecraft
#1624 [21:10] <meh> sec
#1625 [21:10] <Wug> fox_: we don't remember everyone we've ever helped
#1626 [21:10] <Wug> youd probably end up recounting the details if it was longer ago than yesterday
#1627 [21:11] <fox_> ya it was last night
#1628 [21:12] <Wug> I looked up your conversation
#1629 [21:12] <Wug> it's never worked before on your computer?
#1630 [21:12] <Wug> it's never worked before on your computer?
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#1632 [21:13] <fox_> anyway i bought minecraft then downloaded the single and multiplayer servers and tried to play on my browser and it loaded and updated and the playing screne turned white and dident do anything
#1633 [21:14] <Wug> please answer my question
#1634 [21:14] <meh> Thanks for your help Wug
#1635 [21:14] <Wug> meh: before you go
#1636 [21:14] <Wug> what address are you connecting to that doesnt work
#1637 [21:15] <meh> I'm not comforatble with sharing my ip address
#1638 [21:15] <fox_> no ive never played besides on my phone
#1639 [21:16] <meh> How did you know that 127.0.0.1 would work Wug?
#1640 [21:16] <meh> is that a universal one ?
#1641 [21:16] <meh> Is that your server?
#1642 [21:16] <Wug> meh: loopback
#1643 [21:16] <Wug> meh: you're on irc
#1644 [21:16] <lutzee> meh: its the computers local loop back for connecting to stuff hosted on the same machine but uses internet packet system
#1645 [21:16] <Wug> ;ip meh
#1646 [21:16] <WugBot> IP address of meh is: 75.164.233.174
#1647 [21:17] <Wug> if you were using that address, it was probably a port forwarding issue
#1648 [21:17] <lutzee> meh everywhere you go on the internet, your IP is visable
#1649 [21:17] <meh> Oh
#1650 [21:17] <Wug> inside a local network you'd want to use a local ip
#1651 [21:17] <meh> Now I feel like an idiot
#1652 [21:17] <meh> Lmao.
#1653 [21:17] <Wug> routers don't always properly handle trying to connect to their global address from inside their networks
#1654 [21:18] <meh> Ah. Okay. So as long as I stick with the loopback address, I should be fine?
#1655 [21:18] <meh> What if others want to connect to my server on the same internet connection, what do they put ?
#1656 [21:18] <lutzee> meh they would use the internal IP address of your PC
#1657 [21:19] <meh> Ah.
#1658 [21:19] <lutzee> this normally starts like 192,168.
#1659 [21:19] <meh> Okay cool
#1660 [21:19] <lutzee> s/normally/always/
#1661 [21:19] <Wug> if you're connecting to the server from the computer its running on, 127.0.0.1 will work for you
#1662 [21:19] <meh> Awesome. I think I have it figured out.
#1663 [21:19] <Wug> otherwise you should use its lan address, which is the 192.168 one
#1664 [21:19] <Wug> users outside your lan should use your global address
#1665 [21:20] <fox_> wug u there
#1666 [21:20] <meh> Thanks guys, you're awesome.
#1667 [21:20] <Wug> fox_: does your windows username have a ! in it
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#1669 [21:20] <Wug> or has it ever in the past
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#1671 [21:20] <Wug> aefwa: you know, other people can help you too
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#1673 [21:21] <aefwa> still u the best
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#1675 [21:21] <Nudle> lol
#1676 [21:21] <Wug> is it just the same thing?
#1677 [21:21] <MrReXiO> Hi. Im trying to run Minecraft in firefox running on ubuntu 12.04. Java seems to work fine but after loading something I just see a black square
#1678 [21:21] <MrReXiO> what could it be?
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#1680 [21:22] <Wug> aefwa: use the channel
#1681 [21:22] <lutzee> MrReXiO: um try using the launcher
#1682 [21:22] <Wug> :client > MrReXiO
#1683 [21:22] <WugBot> MrReXiO: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#1684 [21:22] <aefwa> what channel
#1685 [21:23] <lutzee> aefwa: this channel
#1686 [21:23] <Wug> this channel
#1687 [21:23] <Wug> don't pm please/
#1688 [21:23] <aefwa> ok i keeps on crashing
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#1690 [21:23] <MrReXiO> lutzee: ok thanks I will try that
#1691 [21:23] <Wug> try turning the memory allocation down to 300MB
#1692 [21:23] <Wug> fox_: does your windows username have a ! in it
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#1694 [21:24] <Wug> noobs confuse me
#1695 [21:24] <lutzee> MrReXiO: if that doesn't work i know what will probably fix it
#1696 [21:24] <aefwa> ok
#1697 [21:24] <lutzee> MrReXiO: the launcher is always the ideal thing to use btw, as browsers are doing other things and will often reduce FPS as they take cpu load too
#1698 [21:25] <aefwa> where do i click to chane?
#1699 [21:25] <aefwa> chane
#1700 [21:25] <aefwa> change
#1701 [21:26] <Wug> aefwa: setup, advanced
#1702 [21:26] <MrReXiO> lutzee: well, it does exactly the same... right clicked minecraft.jar > then 'open with Java Runtime' > put login info > says 'done loading' > and bamp! black square
#1703 [21:27] <lutzee> MrReXiO: thought so, probably need to update the lwjgl
#1704 [21:27] <Wug> MrReXiO: you're on linux right
#1705 [21:27] <MrReXiO> yes
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#1707 [21:27] <Wug> you know how to use the terminal yes?
#1708 [21:27] <MrReXiO> Wug: yes
#1709 [21:27] <Wug> launch minecraft manually from the terminal
#1710 [21:27] <Wug> pastebin the exception
#1711 [21:27] <aefwa> the error says Failed to write core dump
#1712 [21:28] <Wug> aefwa: open magic launcher
#1713 [21:28] <aefwa> ok
#1714 [21:28] <Wug> click the setup button, then the advanced button
#1715 [21:28] <aefwa> ok
#1716 [21:28] <Wug> it should have the number of megabytes to allocate somewhere in there
#1717 [21:28] <Wug> I set it to 512, so its probably still that
#1718 [21:28] <Wug> set it to 300
#1719 [21:29] <Wug> minecraft doesnt really perform well on 32 bit systems
#1720 [21:29] <aefwa> kk
#1721 [21:29] <Wug> its a known issue
#1722 [21:32] <MrReXiO> Wug:
#1723 [21:32] <MrReXiO> lutzee:
#1724 [21:33] <MrReXiO> this is the output from the terminal:
#1725 [21:33] <MrReXiO> Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/rexio/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: libjawt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#1726 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
#1727 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(Unknown Source)
#1728 [21:33] <lutzee> MrReXiO: sotp
#1729 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
#1730 [21:33] <lutzee> STOP
#1731 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
#1732 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Unknown Source)
#1733 [21:33] <lutzee> -.-
#1734 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.lang.System.load(Unknown Source)
#1735 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at org.lwjgl.Sys$1.run(Sys.java:69)
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#1737 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#1738 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at org.lwjgl.Sys.doLoadLibrary(Sys.java:65)
#1739 [21:33] <lutzee> MrReXiO: right as i expected it doesn't like the natives
#1740 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at net.minecraft.Launcher.replace(Launcher.java:136)
#1741 [21:33] <MrReXiO> at net.minecraft.Launcher$1.run(Launcher.java:79)
#1742 [21:33] <MrReXiO> oops... sorry... using empathy as IRC client -.-
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#1744 [21:33] <Wug> this is most definitely not pastebin
#1745 [21:34] <Wug> update lwjgl
#1746 [21:34] <lutzee> MrReXiO: follow this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1747 [21:34] <Wug> :lwjgl > MrReXiO
#1748 [21:34] <WugBot> MrReXiO: (lwjgl) To update lwjgl, first download the most recent version (2.8.3), then open your minecraft folder and replace the lwjgl jar files (lwjgl.jar, lwjgl-util.jar, and jinput.jar) as well as the native libraries in bin/native.
#1749 [21:34] <WugBot> MrReXiO: (lwjgl) Download lwjgl from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.8.3/
#1750 [21:34] <aefwa> hey it crashed again
#1751 [21:34] <Shadow90655> Im new to minecraft and i would like to know how to download a mod from the forums...if anyone can help me out that would be great
#1752 [21:34] <Wug> aefwa: if it's still breaking I can't fix it
#1753 [21:34] <lutzee> Wug most recent lwjgl is 2.8.4
#1754 [21:34] <Wug> sorry
#1755 [21:34] <aefwa> ok
#1756 [21:34] <Wug> lutzee: I have issues with .4
#1757 [21:35] <lutzee> hmm okay
#1758 [21:35] <aefwa> whant to do that pc control thing?
#1759 [21:35] <Wug> at least I did
#1760 [21:35] <aefwa> ?
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#1762 [21:35] <Wug> aefwa: it won't help. Theres nothing I can do
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#1764 [21:35] <lutzee> Well i loaded .4 up on ubuntu a while ago and had no problems
#1765 [21:35] <aefwa> ohhhhhhhh
#1766 [21:35] <lutzee> ??> Shadow90655 mods
#1767 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Shadow90655: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1768 [21:35] <Wug> lutzee: id have to try it again
#1769 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Shadow90655: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1770 [21:35] <Wug> im using a different video card now
#1771 [21:35] <MrReXiO> lutzee: Wug: many thanks!!!
#1772 [21:35] <Wug> if it was driver related it might not still happen
#1773 [21:36] <lutzee> Wug: if i have time tomorrow, i'll try load on mint and see what happens
#1774 [21:36] <Wug> aefwa: sorry
#1775 [21:36] <gingy> When I load minecraft, it starts updating, then it says it is done loading, but the load bar does not fill up the whole way, and it stays there
#1776 [21:36] <Wug> gingy: force update
#1777 [21:36] <Wug> :fu > gingy
#1778 [21:36] <WugBot> gingy: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1779 [21:36] <WugBot> gingy: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#1783 [21:37] <Wug> fox_: does your windows username have a ! in it
#1784 [21:37] <fox_> no
#1785 [21:38] <Wug> has it ever
#1786 [21:38] <fox_> no
#1787 [21:38] <gingy> thank you
#1788 [21:38] <Wug> gingy: np
#1789 [21:38] <Wug> fox_: you could grab teamviewer
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#1791 [21:38] <Wug> :tv
#1792 [21:38] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1793 [21:38] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1794 [21:40] <fox_> i need ur id wug
#1795 [21:40] <Wug> nope. I need yours
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#1797 [21:42] <tyler> i cant get my multiplayer to work and it is pissing me off and i tryed the server.exe and it still doesnt work
#1798 [21:43] <fox_> ok wait wich id
#1799 [21:43] <tyler> what id
#1800 [21:43] * BusyK is now known as :AwayK
#1801 [21:44] <lutzee> tyler: well it might help with telling us what aspect is not working
#1802 [21:45] <tyler> like me an my friend want to play to gether and we cant he has multiplayer but i dont and lives down the street from me and it is the multiplayer server part i cant connect to the servers at all
#1803 [21:46] <fox_> if ur there wug its 771 671436
#1804 [21:46] <lutzee> tyler: so if i understand you correctly he is hosting a server for you two to play on?
#1805 [21:47] <Wug> hang on
#1806 [21:47] <tyler> yea and i cant connect him
#1807 [21:48] <lutzee> tyler: is the server running at the moment?
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#1809 [21:48] <tyler> yea now it is
#1810 [21:48] <lutzee> tyler: what is your friends external IP address?
#1811 [21:48] <Anon> I try to login to minecraft but it tells me I have too many failed logins
#1812 [21:48] * Anon is now known as :Guest64721
#1813 [21:49] <Wug> Guest64721: wait a whil
#1814 [21:49] <Wug> w
#1815 [21:49] <Wug> while*
#1816 [21:49] <Guest64721> Thats all I have to do?
#1817 [21:50] <Wug> probably
#1818 [21:50] <tyler> 192.168.0.2:55939
#1819 [21:50] <Wug> might help to find out your password
#1820 [21:50] <Guest64721> Thank you
#1821 [21:50] <lutzee> tyler: that is not his external IP address...
#1822 [21:50] <fox_> to my computer?
#1823 [21:50] <tyler> what is the external ip address then
#1824 [21:51] <lutzee> tyler: get him to go here http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1825 [21:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> tyler ip/wan
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#1827 [21:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> tyler ip/external
#1828 [21:51] <VoxelHead> tyler: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1829 [21:51] <fox_> if so its sofiebella just like that
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#1831 [21:52] <Wug> fox_: that ID didnt work
#1832 [21:52] <tyler> 97.85.172.63
#1833 [21:53] <Wug> ;check tyler
#1834 [21:53] <lutzee> !check 97.85.172.63
#1835 [21:53] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 68-184-244-195.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com:25565 (Timed out)
#1836 [21:53] <fox_> well thats what it told me on teamviewer.com?
#1837 [21:53] <lutzee> wait
#1838 [21:53] <Wug> fox_: is teamviewer still open
#1839 [21:54] <lutzee> wug his friend is hosting not him anyway still not working
#1840 [21:54] <fox_> no?
#1841 [21:54] <lutzee> tyler: your friends port forwarding is not working
#1842 [21:55] <tyler> what is tht and is there someone i can call
#1843 [21:55] <fox_> o i know whats wrong i gave u the wrong password
#1844 [21:55] <Wug> fox_: I havent seen a password from you yet at all
#1845 [21:55] <lutzee> tyler: well its a proccess to letting people have access to the server from outside via internet
#1846 [21:55] <MrReXiO> Wug: Many Thanks!! everything worked and thanks to you too lutzee,
#1847 [21:55] <Wug> MrReXiO: np
#1848 [21:56] <lutzee> MrReXiO: glad to hear :)
#1849 [21:56] <Dream_Rider> Is AMD Radeon HD 6530D able to handle minecraft or would I be better off buying a graphics card?
#1850 [21:56] <lutzee> tyler: it would be more help if your friend was here
#1851 [21:56] <lutzee> tyler: it would be more help if your friend was here
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#1853 [21:56] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: well it should be okay, i use a much older 4550 and it's fine :)
#1854 [21:56] <tyler> well i can try hold on
#1855 [21:56] <fox_> o then nevermind here id 771 671 436 password:1320
#1856 [21:57] <Dream_Rider> Can't find anything on integrated graphics >.< My computer now is crap haha.. So looking at a new computer with a limited budget..
#1857 [21:57] <Wug> fox_: I'm connected
#1858 [21:57] <Wug> show me what its doing
#1859 [21:58] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: this is a desktop PC?
#1860 [21:58] <fox_> ok thanks ill watch
#1861 [21:58] <Wug> fox_: you cant close teamviewer
#1862 [21:58] <Dream_Rider> Ya
#1863 [21:58] <Wug> you have to leave it open
#1864 [21:58] <lutzee> hmm
#1865 [21:58] <fox_> ok
#1866 [21:59] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: mind if i get you to collect a dxdiag report so i can see all the hardware in your PC?
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#1868 [21:59] <fox_> is it ok if i mess with it the mouse
#1869 [22:00] <fox_> never done this before
#1870 [22:00] <Wug> fox_: are you closing it
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#1872 [22:00] <fox_> no y
#1873 [22:00] <Wug> it keeps closing
#1874 [22:00] <Dream_Rider> Sure, On this computer when I try to run minecraft just says "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode."
#1875 [22:01] <lutzee> ahh right
#1876 [22:01] <fox_> ooo sory
#1877 [22:01] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: you might want to update your graphics drivers
#1878 [22:01] <lutzee> ??> Dream_Rider gpu/amd
#1879 [22:01] <VoxelHead> Dream_Rider: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1880 [22:01] <Wug> fox_: show me what its doing
#1881 [22:01] <Dream_Rider> The one I would update is a intel, The computer im looking at on getting is the AMD with integrated graphics
#1882 [22:01] <Wug> yes
#1883 [22:01] <lutzee> oh right
#1884 [22:02] <lutzee> ??> Dream_Rider win/dxdiag
#1885 [22:02] <VoxelHead> Dream_Rider: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1886 [22:02] <VoxelHead> Dream_Rider: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1887 [22:03] <fox_> thats what id dose every time
#1888 [22:03] <Dream_Rider> lutzee: http://pastebin.com/cBUPZs4i
#1889 [22:04] <Wug> fox_: I keep losing the connection
#1890 [22:04] <Wug> its not your fault, but it complicates things
#1891 [22:05] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: ahh okay, yeah the integrated graphics there isn't great, if you are willing to spend some money, and don't want a whole new PC then a new graphics card would be ideal
#1892 [22:05] <lutzee> You have to make sure you can support it and that you won't be bottlenecked by the CPU
#1893 [22:05] <Dream_Rider> I have looked into that, the power supply on this computer really limits things
#1894 [22:05] <Kanegasi> Dream_Rider: i thought you said you had a radeon card?
#1895 [22:05] <Dream_Rider> That was on a computer I was looking at
#1896 [22:05] <Kanegasi> oh
#1897 [22:05] <lutzee> Kanegasi: i had the same though
#1898 [22:06] <lutzee> thought*
#1899 [22:06] * AwayK is now known as :AmberK|Zzz
#1900 [22:06] <lutzee> Anyway, my knowledge of video cards lies with the much newer series
#1901 [22:07] <Kanegasi> i was running on an MSI custom laptop for years. got my first desktop at the beginning of this year
#1902 [22:07] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: hmm, i'm not sure what to advise
#1903 [22:08] <Dream_Rider> I am probably just gonna end up buying a new computer, I know this computer is getting old and limited heck was mostly used for a business computer
#1904 [22:09] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: well in that case, do you have any idea of the max money you are willing to spend?
#1905 [22:10] <Dream_Rider> Mostly around $500-600 http://miburl.com/LYE9y6 -- That was the one I was looking at
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#1907 [22:11] <MCDanny> hey guys
#1908 [22:11] <MCDanny> spoon are you here?
#1909 [22:11] <MCDanny> diskdaemon you there?
#1910 [22:11] <lutzee> Hmm okay, often it is cheaper to build your own PC Dream_Rider as pre manufactured machines can have a lot of overhead to make the company profit are you up for that?
#1911 [22:12] <MCDanny> ah lutzee at least you're here :P
#1912 [22:12] <MCDanny> i just found the reason for my fps lag
#1913 [22:12] <lutzee> Ahh what was that?
#1914 [22:12] <MCDanny> and it had nothing to do with all the stuff we tried :P
#1915 [22:12] <Dream_Rider> I won't mind building a PC, I just have issues looking up parts cause I go for higher end ones haha and it gets more expensive
#1916 [22:12] <MCDanny> it was actually so simple.. 1 drag
#1917 [22:12] <MCDanny> the fov..
#1918 [22:12] <MCDanny> i had it on quake pro
#1919 [22:12] <MCDanny> now its on 90 and the lag is gone
#1920 [22:12] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: give me 10 minutes and i'll put together a decent spec average PC :)
#1921 [22:12] <MCDanny> i dont know why the fov would cause that
#1922 [22:12] <Wug> fox_: can you open that or will it not let you
#1923 [22:13] <Wug> I have a feeling it wont since you're logged in as guest
#1924 [22:13] <Dream_Rider> Ok lutzee sounds good
#1925 [22:13] <fox_> im not shure
#1926 [22:13] <MCDanny> lutzee do you have any idea why the fov could cause such strong lag?
#1927 [22:13] <fox_> get to where u where
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#1930 [22:14] <MCDanny> i was playing just now and thought hmm the fov is the only thing i never touched except for the one time where i cranked it up to quake pro.. so i turned it down to normal and the lags were gone so i turned up a bit more every few minutes and im already at 90 now - no lag at all, solid 143 fps at the moment
#1931 [22:15] <lutzee> MCDanny: maybe to do with some complex graphics algorithms it uses that you hardware doesn't like
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#1933 [22:15] <Wug> fox_: I can't click on it
#1934 [22:15] <MCDanny> im using a 256x hd texture pack too and still no lag :P
#1935 [22:15] <MCDanny> maybe ill use the 512x edition then :D
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#1937 [22:15] <fox_> o sory
#1938 [22:16] <Wug> click the "display adapter" [+] box
#1939 [22:16] <hdcool09> ?
#1940 [22:17] <MCDanny> hmmm strange that you say that lutzee, i play other games on very high fov too and they dont lag.. on the other hand again, they use direct x(cod4, css , hitman, etc.)
#1941 [22:17] <MCDanny> anyway thanks for the help guys
#1942 [22:18] <Wug> fox_: right click
#1943 [22:18] <fox_> ?
#1944 [22:18] <Wug> pick properties
#1945 [22:18] <Wug> pick the driver tab
#1946 [22:19] <MCDanny> bye lutzee
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#1948 [22:21] <Wug> run that program
#1949 [22:21] <Wug> click install
#1950 [22:21] <fox_> crap
#1951 [22:22] <fox_> just tell me what to do
#1952 [22:22] <Wug> click next
#1953 [22:22] <Wug> install
#1954 [22:22] <Wug> actually, go back
#1955 [22:22] <Wug> do remove first
#1956 [22:23] <Wug> experss
#1957 [22:23] <Wug> next
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#1959 [22:26] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: i'm pushing the limits but here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gcMM
#1960 [22:28] <Dream_Rider> Ya it is pushing it, but can always just buy the parts at a time just would be teasing me haha
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#1962 [22:28] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: if you want to leave anything out, the graphics card is the first thing
#1963 [22:28] <lutzee> It's not essential and you can save for it later
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#1965 [22:29] <Dream_Rider> That is true
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#1967 [22:29] <Dream_Rider> so $526 without the card.
#1968 [22:31] <lutzee> Yes, and you have an intel CPU, which are generally ahead of AMD but i'm not sure where the A6-3650 stands agains't an I3, yet i really doubt it is faster
#1969 [22:31] <Dream_Rider> I still prefer intel, Just wasn't sure on the gap between a intel dual and a AMD quad
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#1971 [22:32] <undead> I keep trying to put my world into my vps and everytime i try to put it in it always disconnects from my server at the same exact file every single time.
#1972 [22:32] <undead> Does anyone know how to fix this ?
#1973 [22:32] <lutzee> Dream_Rider: having more cores does not make anything better
#1974 [22:33] <undead> I am using filezilla
#1975 [22:33] <lutzee> The AMD FX-8120 is an 8core CPU yet can barely match an I5 2500k quad core
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#1978 [22:35] <Dream_Rider> I see, have to watch shipping to try and keep the price as low as possible >.< lol
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#1980 [22:35] <lutzee> btw Dream_Rider the i3 2100 is a hyperthreaded CPU so it can act as logically 4 cores
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#1984 [22:38] <lutzee> Anyway Dream_Rider i've stayed up way too long, i am around most days if you want me, but it's going on 4am :p
#1985 [22:38] * lutzee is now known as :zen
#1986 [22:38] <Dream_Rider> Haha, Cya and thanks
#1987 [22:38] <Wug> yeah I personally would go with an intel processor
#1988 [22:39] <Eddie> Shame on those who say AMD is cheaper.
#1989 [22:39] <Wug> (I also already have gone with an intel processor)
#1990 [22:39] <Eddie> Is it really cheaper, considering it uses more power?
#1991 [22:39] <Wug> Eddie: the high end ones are about as expensive as a low end i7
#1992 [22:39] <Wug> so no, theyre not cheaper
#1993 [22:39] <Eddie> I got an i7-3770s
#1994 [22:39] <Eddie> yes s!
#1995 [22:39] <Wug> with one possible exception
#1996 [22:39] <undead> Wug can you help me ?
#1997 [22:40] <Wug> and that's that intel motherboards also tend to be expensive
#1998 [22:40] <zen> Yeah, the i3 2100 is a nice little chip that can perform well
#1999 [22:40] <undead> I keep trying to put my world into my vps and everytime i try to put it in it always disconnects from my server at the same exact file every single time.
#2000 [22:40] <Wug> so you save a little there
#2001 [22:40] <undead> Does anyone know how to fix this ?
#2002 [22:40] <undead> I am using filezilla
#2003 [22:40] <Eddie> The Ivy Bridge i3s will be available in September
#2004 [22:40] <Dream_Rider> I know with my intel processor as done great for me and runs reliably so reason why I would like a intel
#2005 [22:40] <Wug> undead: winscp?
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#2007 [22:40] <Wug> not sure they support it
#2008 [22:40] <undead> How do i use that ?
#2009 [22:40] * zen was about to say it's september then realised timezones
#2009 [22:41] <fox_> ok im back
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#2011 [22:41] <Wug> also try updating filezilla, or using a different ftp client
#2012 [22:41] <Wug> fox_: is the screen resolution still wrong
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#2014 [22:41] * zen is also going... going.... gone
#2014 [22:41] <undead> Do you know any other ftp client ?
#2015 [22:41] <Wug> or did it fix itself
#2016 [22:41] <fox_> ya
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#2018 [22:41] <Wug> open teamviewer again
#2019 [22:41] <Wug> send me the password (the id is the same)
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#2022 [22:43] <fox_> 9120
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#2024 [22:44] <fox_> ok
#2025 [22:44] <Wug> im connected
#2026 [22:44] <Wug> first ill fix the screen res, then try minecraft
#2027 [22:45] <undead> Do you know any other ftp client ?
#2028 [22:45] <Wug> google it
#2029 [22:46] <fox_> what
#2030 [22:46] <Wug> I meant undead
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#2032 [22:46] <Wug> I can't keep teamviewer connected for more than like 2 seconds
#2033 [22:48] <Wug> fox_: I don't think we installed the driver, I think we just removed the old one
#2034 [22:48] <Wug> silly me
#2035 [22:48] <Wug> we'll have to do that before we fix the screen resolution
#2036 [22:48] <Wug> so run the installer again
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#2040 [22:55] <marr> why cant i buy minecraft....keeps saying error?
#2041 [22:55] <Dream_Rider> Would it be worth the $13 to upgrade "Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB" to "CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB"?
#2042 [22:55] <Dream_Rider> nvm
#2043 [22:56] <marr> why cant i buy minecraft....keeps saying error? i'm in the US
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#2048 [23:04] <fox_> ok finially
#2049 [23:06] <fox_> wug u here
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#2051 [23:08] <Wug> fox_: yes
#2052 [23:08] <Wug> has the screen resolution fixed itself
#2053 [23:08] <fox_> yes
#2054 [23:08] <Wug> fox_: try minecraft again then
#2055 [23:08] <fox_> teamviewer?
#2056 [23:09] <fox_> 5332
#2057 [23:10] <Wug> voila
#2058 [23:10] <Wug> fox_: use the launcher on your desktop
#2059 [23:11] <Wug> it tends to perform better
#2060 [23:11] <Wug> np
#2061 [23:12] <fox_> ok thank u so much ive been wanting to play for so long now how do i do multiplayer servers
#2062 [23:12] <Wug> ?? smp/servers
#2063 [23:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2064 [23:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2065 [23:12] <fox_> k thanks again
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#2077 [23:35] <goldene3> hello
#2078 [23:35] <goldene3> Um i have minecraft but not on this laptop and'
#2079 [23:35] <goldene3> Um i have minecraft but not on this laptop and'?
#2080 [23:35] <goldene3> when i download it and java it says virtual machine failed anyone can help me plz
#2081 [23:36] <goldene3> Hello???
#2082 [23:37] <goldene3> eddie?
#2083 [23:37] <goldene3> eddie?
#2084 [23:37] <goldene3> eddie?
#2085 [23:37] <goldene3> eddie?
#2086 [23:37] <goldene3> eddie?
#2087 [23:37] <goldene3> I need help
#2088 [23:38] <goldene3> i need help plz??
#2089 [23:39] <undead> What do you need help with ?
#2090 [23:39] <goldene3> rcan u help me?
#2091 [23:39] <undead> Depends
#2092 [23:39] <undead> What is your problem ?
#2093 [23:39] <goldene3> I download minecraft but it wont work
#2094 [23:39] <undead> Do you have Java ?
#2095 [23:39] <goldene3> virtula machine wont run
#2096 [23:39] <goldene3> yes
#2097 [23:39] <goldene3> but i deleted everything to start over
#2098 [23:39] <undead> Ill search it up on google and see what i find brb
#2099 [23:40] <goldene3> i need REAL help plz?
#2100 [23:40] <goldene3> R U ALL IDIOTS HELP ME
#2101 [23:41] <goldene3> ugh
#2102 [23:41] <undead> I know how to fix it
#2103 [23:41] <goldene3> how
#2104 [23:41] <undead> But im an idiot soooo
#2105 [23:41] <undead> i cant help
#2106 [23:41] <undead> i cant help
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#2108 [23:41] <goldene3> no not u
#2109 [23:41] <goldene3> tell me how
#2110 [23:42] <goldene3> y r they ignoring us
#2111 [23:42] <goldene3> tell me how
#2112 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2113 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2114 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2115 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2116 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2117 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2118 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
#2119 [23:42] <goldene3> FUK U ALL
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#2122 [23:43] <goldene3> cAN anyone help me?
#2123 [23:45] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
#2124 [23:45] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
#2125 [23:45] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
#2126 [23:45] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
#2127 [23:45] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
#2128 [23:45] <Andrio> please don't spam
#2129 [23:45] <goldene3> plz help me?
#2130 [23:45] <goldene3> plz
#2131 [23:45] <Andrio> I'm not familiar with that problem, sorry
#2132 [23:46] <goldene3> Virtual machine error
#2133 [23:46] <Andrio> You could try searching Google for the error message
#2134 [23:46] <goldene3> ? ididnt even try
#2135 [23:46] <goldene3> omfg
#2136 [23:46] <goldene3> i didnt ask u the question dumbasss
#2137 [23:46] <goldene3> I NEED HELP
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#2140 [23:47] <Andrio> indeed. :(
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#2142 [23:50] <popcorn9499> what is a good program to help people that 1ava uses
#2143 [23:50] <popcorn9499> so u can control it?
#2144 [23:51] <Andrio> Teamviewer?
#2145 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't run off of java, but we frequently use teamviewer around here
#2146 [23:51] <popcorn9499> ok thanks
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