#MinecraftHelp > 2012-10-07
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#16 [01:14] <sockmister> AUTISM
#17 [01:14] <sockmister> AUTISM
#18 [01:14] <sockmister> AUTISM
#19 [01:14] <sockmister> AUTISM
#20 [01:14] <sockmister> AUTISM
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#30 [02:03] <bubst3r12345> i have a quick question
#31 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> We have quick answers.
#32 [02:04] <bubst3r12345> i have had trouble running mc lately and i have added more ram to the game (i think) and now it says downloading.. download complete then it just stayes there
#33 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Try a force update
#34 [02:04] <bubst3r12345> how do i do that
#35 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Using the launcher, before logging in, go to "Options", then hit "Force Update". Log in as normal afterwards
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#37 [02:05] <bubst3r12345> ok ill try it
#38 [02:09] <bubst3r12345> that worked
#39 [02:09] <bubst3r12345> thank you so much
#40 [02:10] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
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#52 [03:27] <tyteen4a03> hmm, channel has been quiet lately for me
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#55 [03:38] <Wug> tyteen4a03: here, let me teach you something you never knew about wugbot
#56 [03:38] <Wug> ;hp herp tyteen4a03
#57 [03:39] <Wug> and also
#58 [03:39] <Wug> ;hp wug #minecrafthelp notice
#59 [03:39] <TheNoodle> :<
#60 [03:40] <Wug> its currently broken because apparently the service moved and no longer works from www.minecraft.net (only minecraft.net)
#61 [03:40] <Wug> TheNoodle: wat
#62 [03:40] <TheNoodle> random channel notices D:
#63 [03:40] <Wug> ;hp <3 TheNoodle
#64 [03:40] <TheNoodle> haha
#65 [03:41] <tyteen4a03> ;hp herp tyteen4a03 wat
#66 [03:41] <tyteen4a03> oh
#67 [03:41] <tyteen4a03> okay
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#87 [04:20] <Kartho> Hello,
#88 [04:21] <tonynoname> Hey
#89 [04:22] <Kartho> can somebody tell me how long it takes for skin to update? I uploaded my new skin yesterday but it didn't change, thought that there might be problem with servers but today nothing changes :( let me add that i bought minecraft yesterday and have redone my skin properly. i checked uploading a skin from other site and it said that my skin has been replaced but still, in game i have still default steve skin
#90 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> It should be immediate.
#91 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> What is your minecraft username?
#92 [04:23] <Kartho> should you ask me about such detail?
#93 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> There is nothing I can do with such information. My minecraft username is GreyVulpine.
#94 [04:24] <Kartho> it's Maxikot
#95 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> I see. Did you pay for minecraft?
#96 [04:24] <Kartho> Yes
#97 [04:24] <Kartho> i have premium
#98 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Under "Maxikot"?
#99 [04:25] <Kartho> bought it after registering on mojang
#100 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> !paid Maxikot
#101 [04:25] <Kartho> !paid Maxikot
#102 [04:25] <Kartho> !paid
#103 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> https://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Maxikot
#104 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Shows as false, which means Mojang doesn't see you as premium.
#105 [04:25] <Kartho> O_O_
#106 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> As such, skin customization is not possible.
#107 [04:26] <Kartho> but after logging into my profile on minecraft.net and going to store it says i have premium :O
#108 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#109 [04:27] <Kartho> Let me also tell that i have merged my account, i have created a mojang yesterday but have merged with my old minecraft
#110 [04:27] <Kartho> stll i have never done anything "Strange" with my old account
#111 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> This sounds like an account problem that you'll need to take up with Mojang here.
#112 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> haspaid shows up as false. There's no custom skin registered with your Maxikot name.
#113 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/Maxikot.png
#114 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> I cannot pull a custom skin down with that link (Works with "GreyVulpine.png", or any charactername.png that is premium)
#115 [04:29] <Kartho> Hmm, so you suggest contacting mojang?
#116 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#117 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#118 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> Link at the very end, the "Here" is underlined.
#119 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> That should take you to Mojang's support ticket system.
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#121 [04:30] <Kartho> let me have a look
#122 [04:30] <Kartho> let me have a look
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#124 [04:32] <Kartho> in the contact form i have to fill in my minecraft username. should i put down "maxikot" or the email i login to mojang and minecraft client?
#125 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Maxikot.
#126 [04:34] <Kartho> thank you
#127 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Could I ask when you purchased minecraft?
#128 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Was it on Oct 1st?
#129 [04:35] <Kartho> Yesterday
#130 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. There were issues with accounts purchased on the 1st.
#131 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Was just wondering.
#132 [04:36] <Kartho> but what is more, soon after i bought a minecraft code with the same debit card for my friend and he registered with no problems :o when i use your link to check if the user is valid or not it says he is "true"
#133 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> True means the account is indeed premium.
#134 [04:37] <Kartho> right, and his one is, mine not
#135 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> So, I'd follow up with Mojang. Also, with your friend's bank/financial institution.
#136 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Make sure there were two successful transactions on the bank's end.
#137 [04:38] <Kartho> well it ate my money cause i checked ^^
#138 [04:38] <Kartho> and i have received confirmation emails
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#140 [04:38] <Kartho> but i am writing to mojang at the moment
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#143 [04:44] <Kartho> Well I posted to mojang. thank you for your support and assistance
#144 [04:44] <Kartho> have a good day friends :)
#145 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Good luck
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#147 [04:48] <Kealper> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- nice... they're so close to being caught up, you can just taste it lol
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#149 [04:50] <Kealper> anywho, i guess i'm spending my day in Algonac today, so i've gotta get ready...
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#151 [05:01] <Wug> I fixed haspaid
#152 [05:01] <Wug> and also url unshortening
#153 [05:01] <Wug> its funny because both were broken for the same reason: the domain I used to use stopped working
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#155 [05:02] <Wug> www.minecraft.net no longer answers haspaids, but forwards to minecraft.net, and api.unfwd4.me expired and replaced with a redirect to a parking page (wugbot doesn't follow forwards)
#156 [05:03] <Wug> ;save
#157 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> mrah?
#158 [05:03] <Wug> ;haspaid GreyVulpine
#159 [05:03] <WugBot> GreyVulpine has NOT paid for minecraft.
#160 [05:04] <Wug> its borken.
#161 [05:04] * GreyVulpine blinks
#161 [05:04] <Wug> www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp 302's to minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp
#162 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> !mchelp on
#163 [05:04] <GreyBot> moo
#164 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> !k aubot
#165 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#166 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#167 [05:06] <Wug> also
#168 [05:06] <Wug> a feature that wugbot's had forever but ive never used
#169 [05:06] <Wug> ;hp GreyVulpine GreyVulpine
#170 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> !paid Wug
#171 [05:06] <Wug> I could set it up to do that whenever anyone joins the channel
#172 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> !paid test
#173 [05:06] <Wug> wouldn't that be annoying.
#174 [05:06] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#174 [05:07] <Wug> (answer is yes)
#175 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> !client
#176 [05:07] <GreyBot> For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe -- For MacOS: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip -- For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#177 [05:07] * GreyVulpine hmms.
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#178 [05:08] <Wug> wugbot has a homebrewed HTTP interface
#179 [05:08] <Wug> its a horrible hack.
#180 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> !paid test
#181 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> I know I had greybot set up with !paid...
#182 [05:09] <Wug> I remember that too
#183 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> !paid test
#184 [05:09] <GreyBot> Gets here.
#185 [05:09] <Wug> you're not crazy. in case you were wondering.
#186 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> I know, I'm looking right at it.
#187 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> !paid test
#188 [05:09] <Wug> are you hitting www.minecraft.net instead of minecraft.net?
#189 [05:09] <GreyBot> Gets here.
#190 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Ah hah.
#191 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> !paid test
#192 [05:10] <GreyBot> Error
#193 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Error...
#194 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Really.
#195 [05:10] <Boreeas> :P
#196 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> I set it up to hit !paid when Aubot wasn't here.
#197 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Took out that little check, but forgot to take out the beginning (.
#198 [05:11] <Andrio> Error.
#199 [05:11] <Andrio> >_>
#200 [05:11] <Andrio> Very helpful.
#201 [05:11] <Andrio> </sarcasm>
#202 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah yeah.. Was a quick hack job with sockets.
#203 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> It outputs error if the pattern didn't match.
#204 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I'll figure it out later.
#205 [05:13] * GreyVulpine adds to todo list
#205 [05:13] <Wug> speaking of GreyVulpine's todo list
#206 [05:14] <Wug> I haven't nagged about znc lately
#207 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> That's also on it
#208 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Maybe in a few years, I'll get around to it
#209 [05:14] <Wug> GreyVulpine:
#210 [05:14] <Wug> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/RoundTuit.jpg
#211 [05:14] <Wug> oh look, its a round tuit
#212 [05:14] <Wug> better get started
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#226 [06:01] <aledrobt> Hi :D?
#227 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Salud.
#228 [06:01] <aledrobt> I want to buy an account
#229 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> You can do so at minecraft.net
#230 [06:01] <aledrobt> but the name that i want is registered
#231 [06:01] <aledrobt> but is not a premium account
#232 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> There is nothing we, nor mojang can do about that.
#233 [06:01] <Wug> wouldn't be fair to take it from someone else
#234 [06:02] <Wug> you'll have to think of a different name
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#236 [06:02] <aledrobt> :( And any form to contact with the owner
#237 [06:02] <aledrobt> to buy his account?
#238 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
#239 [06:02] <Wug> nope
#240 [06:02] <aledrobt> :(
#241 [06:02] <aledrobt> Ok thanks
#242 [06:02] <Wug> you'd have to get lucky and bumble into him on a server or something
#243 [06:03] <aledrobt> it's no premium an inactive :(
#244 [06:03] <aledrobt> anyone can connect with his name
#245 [06:03] <Wug> you wouldnt be able to tell if it was inactive
#246 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> You don't know that it's inactive. And giving out email addresses of accounts goes against Mojang's privacy policy
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#248 [06:04] <aledrobt> yes i know, but i will buy the premium, and the actual owner no
#249 [06:04] <aledrobt> But thanks you very much
#250 [06:04] <aledrobt> bye :)
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#259 [06:27] <Lightning_199> hey I have win7 and Im now using a new theme on it, the problem is that i have since using the theme a blackscreen in mc
#260 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, custom themes aren't friendly with mc
#261 [06:28] <Lightning_199> hmm isnt there a way to fix it while using the theme <..<
#262 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Not that I've found.
#263 [06:29] <Lightning_199> hmm is there a way to contact the programmers of mc, because they get payed for fixing bugs and this is a bug
#264 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> It's actually a java bug.
#265 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> They’re already aware of that issue
#266 [06:31] <Lightning_199> well, how long can it need to fix such an bug ?
#267 [06:31] <DiskDaemon> Until they deem it more important than thousands of more pressing issues
#268 [06:32] <Lightning_199> hmm I never understood why mc is made in a shitty language like java and not c/c++
#269 [06:32] <Lightning_199> so much issues mit it
#270 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> That’s what Notch was comfortable with at the time
#271 [06:33] <Lightning_199> well, it should be possible to make a c++-based client which includes some java-files
#272 [06:33] <Lightning_199> this should solve the prob with the theme
#273 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> By applying yet-another-wrapper as a solution?
#274 [06:35] <Lightning_199> normaly, because the client is than made for the system and there shouldnt be that much issues then
#275 [06:36] <Lightning_199> because I think its just a display bug
#276 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is.
#277 [06:36] <DiskDaemon> And you want to create a custom solution just for windows 7 (or vista. Is XP needed?) but now mac or linux?
#278 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> s/now/not
#279 [06:37] <Lightning_199> well first of all it should be started with windows, if it works you can continue with other platforms
#280 [06:38] <Lightning_199> in this case win7 is most popular I think
#281 [06:38] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#281 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> stage left
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#283 [06:38] <Lightning_199> well guys , have to go, cya
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#293 [07:33] <MMGamez03> Hi
#294 [07:33] <MMGamez03> I can't find the minecraft folder in Application Support on a Mac
#295 [07:33] <MMGamez03> I just upgraded to snow leopard
#296 [07:34] <MMGamez03> I went into library, which was in the 'Macintosh HD' thing
#297 [07:34] <MMGamez03> and then into Application Support
#298 [07:34] <MMGamez03> But minecraft wasn't there
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#300 [07:35] <MMGamez03> where do you think my minecraft folder is?
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#304 [07:36] <Kartho> Hello again, I've been here today concerning my account status. I sent a support ticket to mojang, and do any of you know how long more or less does it take for mojang support to process emails?
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#312 [08:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: 1-2 weeks atm
#313 [08:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> They're still on about a week's backlog
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#343 [10:23] <audacious> fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect What does this mean?
#344 [10:23] <audacious> fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect What does this mean?
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#348 [10:35] <Morrolan> WhereIsMySpoon - They caught up that much? oO
#349 [10:35] <Morrolan> Heh, indeed they have. Didn't think they'd ever make it.
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#354 [10:39] <audacious> Permission denied: connect What does this mean?
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#356 [10:40] <Morrolan> Uh, is the server runnin? No security software blocking it?
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#358 [10:40] <Morrolan> *shrug*
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#373 [11:10] <alex_> i have bought minecraft an it says i am not a premium user
#374 [11:10] <alex_> how do i fix
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#377 [11:14] <alex_> what fuck you gus are no help
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#379 [11:19] <TheNoodle> ^_^
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#390 [11:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> [15:45:44] <alex_> what fuck you gus are no help >_>
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#393 [11:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm, woops
#394 [11:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> forgot to blank it out before i reposted
#395 [11:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> :x
#396 [11:45] <lucas> when i open minecraft for mac, it says that it has been damaged and that i should move it to trash. now it won't let me open minecraft
#397 [11:46] <lucas> any help???
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#400 [11:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> lucas: ?? mac/gatekeeper
#401 [11:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#402 [11:48] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#403 [11:49] <lucas> it won't let me
#404 [11:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> lucas: what wont let you what
#405 [11:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> lucas: first follow the steps i just gave you
#406 [11:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> then try it again
#407 [11:51] <lucas> nevermind...just had to unlock the lock
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#409 [11:52] <lucas> thank you so much!!!! it worked
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#428 [12:28] <Kartho> Hello, my friend is having a skin issue. He uploads it and it doesn't appear in-game. what cone be done about it?
#429 [12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: /topic
#430 [12:28] <tikker> iirc the skins are problematic
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#432 [12:28] <tikker> oh
#433 [12:28] <tikker> ^^
#434 [12:28] <mrdoughnuts> how do i set up a private server without 192.168.0.1?
#435 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> mrdoughnuts: you make it whitelisted so only ppl you whitelist can join
#436 [12:29] <tikker> only tell the persons you want the ip
#437 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> and 192.168.0.1 is an internal ip
#438 [12:29] <tikker> your fast WhereIsMySpoon XD
#439 [12:29] <tikker> *you're
#440 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> that wont get people onto your server
#441 [12:29] <mrdoughnuts> how do i whitelist it?!
#442 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> tikker: practise
#443 [12:29] <Kartho> what is that /topic ?
#444 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> mrdoughnuts: google
#445 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: type it into irc
#446 [12:29] <tikker> wtf!
#447 [12:29] <tikker> how :O
#448 [12:29] <mrdoughnuts> wut do i search?
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#450 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> tikker: how what
#451 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> mrdoughnuts: "how do a whitelist minecraft server" ?
#452 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
#453 [12:29] <tikker> your lightning fast responses :P
#454 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> tikker: my wpm is distinctly averae
#455 [12:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> average
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#457 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> tikker: also i have experience doing it with other things too
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#459 [12:30] <tikker> mrdoughnuts when creating a server, there is a file called whitelist.txt, there you can add the names
#460 [12:30] <tikker> each one on a new line
#461 [12:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> does that make the server automatically whitelist-only?
#462 [12:30] <Kartho> i type it and get message "insufficien arguments for comand"
#463 [12:31] <tikker> no
#464 [12:31] <tikker> and you have to enable whitelist in server.properties
#465 [12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: type just "/topic" without the quotes into this channel
#466 [12:31] <mrdoughnuts> i kno but how do i get the server on minecarft?
#467 [12:31] <tikker> download the server exe or jar from the webstie
#468 [12:31] <tikker> *website
#469 [12:31] <tikker> ?? server
#470 [12:31] <tikker> ?? index
#471 [12:31] <mrdoughnuts> wut?
#472 [12:31] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#473 [12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> mrdoughnuts: look at that link
#474 [12:32] <tikker> not the link that jsut appeared
#475 [12:32] <Kartho> I do it exactly as you say but get the message i'm telling you
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#477 [12:32] <tikker> ??< smp/serversetup
#478 [12:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: there are issues with IG skins atm
#479 [12:32] <tikker> ??> mrdougnuts smp/serversetup
#480 [12:32] <VoxelHead> mrdougnuts: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#481 [12:32] <VoxelHead> mrdougnuts: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#482 [12:32] <Kartho> IG? what does IG stand for?
#483 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> in game
#484 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> tikker: he left
#485 [12:33] <tikker> oh
#486 [12:33] <tikker> didn't notice
#487 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you cant tab complete, they've left :p
#488 [12:33] <tikker> yeah, i was wondering why tab was suddenly broken :P
#489 [12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
#490 [12:33] <Kartho> Thank you for info ;)
#491 [12:33] <tikker> i need a guitar song to play
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#493 [12:34] <Kartho> Where can i get information when the issue is resolved?
#494 [12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Kartho: follow notch, dinnerbone etc on twitter
#495 [12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> the mojang people
#496 [12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> they give regular updates
#497 [12:35] <Kartho> thanks
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#507 [12:52] <matmoeb> im suddenly crashing. I didnt change anything that i know of. Game wont even load
#508 [12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: please give us a pastebin of the error report
#509 [12:53] <lutzee> If you don't know how to get an error report then this will help https://www.google.co.uk/url?url=http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash%23How_to_get_a_crash_report&rct=j&q=minecraft+error+report&usg=AFQjCNEziqvTjzeVX3Le8OcjhmXEXndXUQ&sa=X&ei=XLNxUMqnLIaR0AXIlIGABg&ved=0CCcQygQwAA
#510 [12:53] <matmoeb> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // I bet Cylons wouldn't have this problem. Time: 10/7/12 11:47 AM Description: Exception in server tick loop java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ix at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:631) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:615) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.j
#511 [12:53] <lutzee> er
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#513 [12:53] <lutzee> google >.>
#514 [12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#515 [12:53] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#516 [12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: i said pastebin
#517 [12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> not in this channel
#518 [12:53] <lutzee> WhereIsMySpoon: i'm on my laptop, so my google chrome isn't set up properly :p
#519 [12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> lutzee: Dx
#520 [12:56] <matmoeb> http://pastebin.com/tWNM6LWf
#521 [12:56] <matmoeb> ??
#522 [12:57] <matmoeb> i tried deleting everything related to mc on my macbook and re-instal
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#524 [12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: are these logs from a server or a client
#525 [12:59] <matmoeb> client sir
#526 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm
#527 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> it does kinda look like something's messed up ur mc rather than it being java or gfx or w/e
#528 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: were you on a server at the itme
#529 [13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> time
#530 [13:00] <matmoeb> wait, here is one straight from the mc app screen
#531 [13:00] <matmoeb> http://pastebin.com/zst7ib7V
#532 [13:02] <matmoeb> i was not on a server, i had just tried to log in, and before loading any terrain, it went back to the home "single, multi, options.." screen then crashed
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#534 [13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: so you were logging into a server?
#535 [13:02] <matmoeb> no
#536 [13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> " i had just tried to log in, and before loading any terrain"
#537 [13:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> that to me says you logged into a server and were tryuing to load its terrain
#538 [13:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> please explain
#539 [13:03] <lutzee> The jar is corrupt either way
#540 [13:03] <lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#541 [13:03] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#542 [13:03] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#543 [13:05] <matmoeb> i did "force update" and then log in, i select the map, click singleplayer, the play selected world (or create new, same thing happens) and before loading any terrian, it crashes
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#545 [13:08] <lutzee> Er
#546 [13:08] <lutzee> ?? win/reinst
#547 [13:08] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#548 [13:08] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#549 [13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> hes on a mac lutzee
#550 [13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> [17:29:00] <matmoeb> i tried deleting everything related to mc on my macbook and re-instal
#551 [13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mac/reinst
#552 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#553 [13:09] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#554 [13:09] <matmoeb> yessir, tried that, library>app support> minecraft, deleted all that, saved a copy of my maps
#555 [13:09] <lutzee> Then the world is corrupt
#556 [13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: have you tried making a new world?
#557 [13:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah wait u said it
#558 [13:10] <matmoeb> yessir
#559 [13:10] <matmoeb> i haent tried to put my old maps back in yet
#560 [13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: you arent putting any plugins or mods back in with it before you start it each time are you/
#561 [13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
#562 [13:11] <matmoeb> no, i usually use magiclauncher but while addressing the problem, i havent used it
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#564 [13:12] <lutzee> Magiclauncher is horrible..
#565 [13:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: tried reinstalling java?
#566 [13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe its broken and is corrupting your files
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#570 [13:17] <matmoeb> so after updating java, should i delete bin folder again?
#571 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: sure
#572 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> do teh whole reinst thing again
#573 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: bin and resource
#574 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> s
#575 [13:21] <matmoeb> hmmm. still crash
#576 [13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> matmoeb: same error report?
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#598 [14:23] <Huntsman> when i log in the game won't appear
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#600 [14:24] <Huntsman> It stopped working about a week ago. I can log in, but when i press play in browser the game screen disappears
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#607 [14:30] <Ltin> is minecraft.net up?
#608 [14:30] <tikker> well go there and you'll see :)
#609 [14:30] <tikker> !check minecraft.net
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#611 [14:31] <Ltin> its loading so slow adn iv tried like 5 times, but ill try again
#612 [14:31] <Ltin> internet explorer connot display the webpage
#613 [14:32] <Ltin> wait never mind
#614 [14:33] <Ltin> i found my answer
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#617 [14:34] <minecraftdude> What do I do if i never recived a verification email?
#618 [14:35] <Ltin> did you ot in the right email?
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#620 [14:35] <minecraftdude> Yes
#621 [14:35] <Ltin> hm
#622 [14:35] <Ltin> it might take a little while for the email to go through
#623 [14:35] <Ltin> how long ago did you sign up?
#624 [14:36] <minecraftdude> Yesterday
#625 [14:36] <Ltin> what time zone are you in?
#626 [14:36] <minecraftdude> Central
#627 [14:36] <Ltin> hmm
#628 [14:36] <Ltin> tcheck you spam and junk email folders
#629 [14:36] <Ltin> if its not in there ask someone official
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#631 [14:37] <minecraftdude> Ok thanks
#632 [14:38] <Ltin> was it in there?
#633 [14:38] <minecraftdude> well i got one from mojang but there is no code
#634 [14:38] <Ltin> ?
#635 [14:39] <Ltin> no code?
#636 [14:39] <minecraftdude> verification code
#637 [14:39] <Ltin> there isnt like a link or something?
#638 [14:40] <minecraftdude> there is
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#640 [14:40] <minecraftdude> but it says it can not be verified at this time
#641 [14:41] <Ltin> if its a minecraft.net link, click it, and you might be verified, let me check to see how my verification email was
#642 [14:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> login servers are down
#643 [14:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> www.minecraft.net/login doesnt work
#644 [14:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
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#646 [14:42] <Ltin> no, it doesnt
#647 [14:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> might be why his verif email isnt working
#648 [14:43] <minecraftdude> it worked
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#651 [14:44] <minecraftdude> what is premium?
#652 [14:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> minecraftdude: means you get to play the game for real
#653 [14:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> forever
#654 [14:44] <Ltin> premium is when you have paid for the full minecraft game
#655 [14:45] <minecraftdude> i got a prepaid card for 26.95 and it says im not premium
#656 [14:45] <Ltin> im guessing all of minecarft.net is down?
#657 [14:45] <Ltin> yep
#658 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> mm, is having issues at least
#659 [14:46] <Ltin> mm?
#660 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> minecraftdude: it takes about 24 hrs after using it to work
#661 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> lutzee: mm as in "hmm"
#662 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> oops
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#664 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ltin even
#665 [14:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry lut D:
#666 [14:46] <Ltin> ?
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#680 [15:16] <CoolGamer> I bought minecraft but cannot change my skin, I bought it with a Minecraft Gift Card, and the skin service is up
#681 [15:16] <CoolGamer> I tried multiple times and even waited a day, I think it is a problem with my account
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#684 [15:17] <CoolGamer> can someone help?
#685 [15:17] <CoolGamer> glk;
#686 [15:17] <FLHerne> CoolGamer: With?
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#688 [15:21] <CoolGamer> I bought minecraft recently and cannot change my skin, even though I can see other people's skin, I waited a day
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#690 [15:21] <CoolGamer> It was with a Minecraft Gift Card found in stores
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#695 [15:24] <lutzee> CoolGamer: whats your minecraft name?
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#698 [15:27] <Schmiggs> Hello, I try to start minecraft, and after the launcher open, it closes, and this an error message appears as a notebook page on my desktop "Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows" with more text that I have no idea as to the meaning. Any help available?
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#704 [15:32] <lutzee> Not if you quit after 30 seconds there isn't.
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#718 [15:50] <L33TKillah> Anyone else is having some issues to change skin ? I cant, but my friend can. Whats happening ?
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#720 [15:52] <gxmaster36> i need help i bought minecraft but it will not let me download it off the web page what is going wrong
#721 [15:53] <gxmaster36> please someone help
#722 [15:53] <L33TKillah> The website is down right now, pal.
#723 [15:53] <gxmaster36> if its down how did i get a link from it that took me here
#724 [15:54] <gxmaster36> i just want the game i bought to work , but it will not let me download
#725 [15:54] <L33TKillah> "Our servers are working a bit hard, please check back later."
#726 [15:55] <gxmaster36> ok but clerify this for me. i bought the game, if i log on to my account it should let me download minecraft right?
#727 [15:55] <gxmaster36> if it does not let me is there a number i can call
#728 [15:56] <L33TKillah> When you enter your account, there will be a "Download now !" button, next to Steve, the pig and the sheep.
#729 [15:56] <gxmaster36> yea i try that it says can not download
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#731 [15:57] <L33TKillah> Can not download... ? Let me see here.
#732 [15:57] <gxmaster36> yet it goes to my download then says can not download retry?
#733 [15:58] <L33TKillah> Hmm... Can i upload the launcher on Mediafire for you ?
#734 [15:59] <gxmaster36> i dont have a mediafire account
#735 [15:59] <gxmaster36> you can e-mail it to me
#736 [15:59] <L33TKillah> You dont need a account for download.
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#738 [16:00] <gxmaster36> ok i never use mediafire not even sure what it is tell me what to do
#739 [16:01] <L33TKillah> Hmm... My Mediafire account is not working ^-^', so... Add me on MSN. bimcraft@hotmail.com
#740 [16:01] <gxmaster36> cant you just e-mail it to me
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#742 [16:02] <L33TKillah> Let me try. So pass me your e-mail.
#743 [16:03] <gxmaster36> ducaprime@yahoo.com
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#748 [16:04] <hopelost9> halp
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#750 [16:05] <hopelost9> heelllooooooo
#751 [16:05] <hopelost9> i need help
#752 [16:05] <hopelost9> *derp*
#753 [16:06] <hopelost9> my drivers arent working and idk how to make them work
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#755 [16:06] <hopelost9> HHHeeeeEEEElllLLLLLllllLLLLooooOOOOOoooooOOO
#756 [16:06] <hopelost9> god
#757 [16:07] <hopelost9> bless
#758 [16:07] <hopelost9> america
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#760 [16:07] <hopelost9> y u no halp
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#762 [16:07] <hopelost9> help my driver sucks
#763 [16:08] <hopelost9> i need the opengl accelerated thingy
#764 [16:08] <hopelost9> can i get it 4 freeeeeeee
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#766 [16:10] <hopelost9> er mah gerd
#767 [16:11] <hopelost9> peace, hopelost out, motherfukas
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#771 [16:11] <hopelost> hi, i need help
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#774 [16:12] <TheGamerGuy5000> Hey
#775 [16:12] <TheGamerGuy5000> We have a problem
#776 [16:12] <hopelost> me too
#777 [16:12] <TheGamerGuy5000> I had gotten a prepaid minecraft card for my B-day
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#779 [16:12] <hopelost> ivee been stiitn hewe fo 3 hrs
#780 [16:13] <hopelost> lol lag
#781 [16:13] <TheGamerGuy5000> I registered for mojang
#782 [16:13] <hopelost> me too. since 1.7.3
#783 [16:13] <TheGamerGuy5000> and it says "could not redeem card."
#784 [16:13] <hopelost> get over yourself
#785 [16:13] <TheGamerGuy5000> An error occurred. Could not redeem card. Please try again.
#786 [16:14] <TheGamerGuy5000> :(
#787 [16:14] <TheGamerGuy5000> Someone help!?
#788 [16:14] <hopelost> suck it moter fuka
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#790 [16:14] <TheGamerGuy5000> I am not using the forum
#791 [16:14] <TheGamerGuy5000> because the replies could take a week
#792 [16:14] <TheGamerGuy5000> maybe a month
#793 [16:15] <TheGamerGuy5000> before someone replies
#794 [16:15] <TheGamerGuy5000> >_<
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#796 [16:15] <hopelost9> hi!
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#798 [16:15] <TheGamerGuy5000> You know what I need to go to a more pacjked rrm
#799 [16:15] <hopelost9> in neeeeeeds help
#800 [16:15] <hopelost9> ?
#801 [16:15] <TheGamerGuy5000> Yes
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#803 [16:15] <hopelost9> no!
#804 [16:15] <hopelost9> hi
#805 [16:16] <hopelost9> gersh dern et
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#807 [16:16] <hopelost9> haaaalllllllpppppp
#808 [16:17] <hopelost9> immmmmmmm rrrreeepppppeeaaatttiiiiinnnggggg cchhhhaaarrrraaacccchhhhttteeerrrrsssss
#809 [16:17] <hopelost9> helllppp?
#810 [16:17] <hopelost9> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
#811 [16:18] <hopelost9> pppiiiinnnngggaaassss
#812 [16:19] <hopelost9> gslgghdiughs;udfhbs;iudlfhs;hgslfd
#813 [16:19] <hopelost9> hlu
#814 [16:19] <hopelost9> hga
#815 [16:19] <hopelost9> ;sufh
#816 [16:19] <hopelost9> asd
#817 [16:19] <hopelost9> hga;us
#818 [16:19] <hopelost9> fha
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#821 [16:37] <Hugo> Yo
#822 [16:37] <Hugo> I haz a problem
#823 [16:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hugo: sup
#824 [16:37] <Hugo> I tried to install SPC, then uninstalled it, and now whenever I open it my minecraft tries to update but it can't
#825 [16:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hugo: we dont really support mods here, best i can give is:
#826 [16:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/reinst
#827 [16:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#828 [16:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#829 [16:38] <Hugo> Oh I'm on a mac
#830 [16:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mac/reinst
#831 [16:38] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#832 [16:38] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#833 [16:39] <Hugo> Hmm Okey Dokes thanks!
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#838 [16:42] <Hugo> It worked
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#840 [16:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
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#843 [16:49] <gnnner> Hello?
#844 [16:49] <gnnner> I need help with a migrated account issue
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#847 [16:50] <gnnner> It says my account is migrated but i never migrated it, when i try to change my password it says no such username.
#848 [16:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnnner: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed- try this
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#850 [16:53] <gnnner> ok thank you
#851 [16:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnnner: minecraft seems to be having issues atm anyway
#852 [16:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://help.mojang.com/ says all services are down
#853 [16:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah, now theyre mostly up except mc.net
#854 [16:54] <gnnner> Error! Your Minecraft account has already been migrated to a Mojang account. Go to the log in page and use your e-mail address to login.
#855 [16:55] <gnnner> Never did that ^
#856 [16:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#857 [16:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#858 [16:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> second one deals explicitly with your issue
#859 [16:57] <gnnner> Ok thank you
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#861 [17:05] <gnnner> WhereIsMySpoon: I cant really find anything to help me out :/ Plus the fact my account was bought just about when the game came out doesnt help.. cant really find the transaction ID
#862 [17:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnnner: send in a support ticket detailing as much as possible
#863 [17:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> they will try to help
#864 [17:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnnner: it will take 1-2 weeks
#865 [17:06] <gnnner> I did that about 2 or 3 days ago so hopefully i hear something sooner or later
#866 [17:06] <gnnner> Thanks!
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#872 [17:19] <Narius> how do i fix an unable to authenticiate account with minecraft.net error?
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#874 [17:20] <lutzee> You are logged into your account right?
#875 [17:20] <Narius> yes i have had this issue for 3 weeks
#876 [17:20] <Narius> but it will not let me play minecraft
#877 [17:20] <lutzee> You can not log into the launcher? Or you cannot log into servers?
#878 [17:21] <Narius> cannot log into the launcher
#879 [17:21] <lutzee> What anti virus are you using?
#880 [17:21] <Narius> microsoft security essentials, i recently remove avg bc that is what i used to have
#881 [17:21] <lutzee> Ugh.. AVG is probably still installed
#882 [17:21] <lutzee> It's a right pain to remove
#883 [17:22] <Narius> i thought avg was the issue, i got rid of it for good, and it turns out its not
#884 [17:22] <Narius> no i used the avg remove
#885 [17:22] <Narius> remover*
#886 [17:22] <Narius> its gone for good
#887 [17:22] <lutzee> Ahh right okay
#888 [17:22] <lutzee> That's odd then
#889 [17:23] <lutzee> What do you see when you go here https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#890 [17:23] <Narius> its happening with tekkit too and that is what im really interested in playing
#891 [17:24] <Narius> it says bad login for some reason
#892 [17:24] <lutzee> Thats correct
#893 [17:24] <Narius> it doesnt even give me a chance to type in username or password
#894 [17:24] <lutzee> It's not meant to, its only to test your connection to the login servers
#895 [17:24] <lutzee> So something is blocking minecraft
#896 [17:25] <Narius> idk what tho
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#898 [17:25] <Narius> would firefox do such a thing?
#899 [17:25] <lutzee> It shouldn't
#900 [17:25] <lutzee> It's pretty much always antivirus/firewall
#901 [17:26] <lutzee> But MSE has never blocked it
#902 [17:26] <Narius> firewall you say?
#903 [17:26] <Narius> mse has its own firewall could that be the issue?
#904 [17:26] <lutzee> No, we recommend people to use MSE
#905 [17:27] <Narius> ... dangit i have had this problem for weeks im so sick of it if it doesnt fix itself then minecraft was a waste of $30
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#907 [17:28] <bubst3r12345> im back again. with another question
#908 [17:28] <bubst3r12345> can anyone answer a question on bukkit help?
#909 [17:28] <Narius> prob not
#910 [17:28] <bubst3r12345> hmm
#911 [17:28] <lutzee> Narius: is the bottum section of the launcher black?
#912 [17:29] <Narius> idk i dont think so lemme check
#913 [17:29] <bubst3r12345> do you know wha,t In the Edit windows, modify PATH by adding the location of the class to the value for PATH. If you do not have the item PATH, you may select to add a new variable and add PATH as the name and the location of the class as the value.
#914 [17:29] <lutzee> Er..
#915 [17:29] <bubst3r12345> im trying to "modify PATH by adding the location of the class to the value for PATH
#916 [17:29] <bubst3r12345> wha does this mean
#917 [17:30] <bubst3r12345> or do u not know
#918 [17:32] <Narius> no the bottom part of my launcher is not black
#919 [17:32] <bubst3r12345> im trying to make a bukkit server and i did everything but that step. im confusse
#920 [17:32] <lutzee> You should just be able to add the value Path
#921 [17:32] <bubst3r12345> what is that
#922 [17:32] <bubst3r12345> do i make it a .bat thing or what
#923 [17:32] <lutzee> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html look at the update the path enviromental variable thing here
#924 [17:33] <Narius> so can anyone help me my minecraft is severly screwing up and ive tried all possible things that i know of to fix it, including reinstallation of minecraft, java, and flash player
#925 [17:38] <bubst3r12345> ok so i did that link now what does value of the PATH mean
#926 [17:38] <Narius> i havent been able to play anything minecraft related in weeks im so sick of it
#927 [17:38] <bubst3r12345> what exactly is happening narius
#928 [17:39] <Narius> lets see my minecraft is having cannot connect to minecraft.net errors and my tekkit is having cannot authenticiate account with minecraft.net errors
#929 [17:39] <Narius> even tho i keep checking the server status on multiple sites and it says its online
#930 [17:40] <bubst3r12345> hmm
#931 [17:40] <bubst3r12345> well i dont work here so.. :P
#932 [17:40] <lutzee> Something is blocking it, you need to find out what it is.
#933 [17:40] <bubst3r12345> i have no clue im sorry
#934 [17:40] <bubst3r12345> lutzee
#935 [17:40] <lutzee> No one "works here" we are all volenteers
#936 [17:40] <Narius> how do you know something is blocking it, and how do i find out what is blocking it?
#937 [17:40] <bubst3r12345> oh ok
#938 [17:41] <bubst3r12345> YOU HACk :P jk idk
#939 [17:41] <bubst3r12345> what does the value of path mean
#940 [17:41] <bubst3r12345> value of the PATH
#941 [17:42] <lutzee> Narius: because you can connect to the website, your not getting an error that sometimes occurs due to having a special chaacter in your username, and you supposedly only have MSE installed as antivirus
#942 [17:42] <Narius> yes and.... CRAP i have an _ in my minecraft name
#943 [17:42] <Narius> WHAT DO I DO?!?
#944 [17:43] <bubst3r12345> go poo mabey?
#945 [17:43] <Narius> ur not helping i am going to have to make a simple request for you to be quiet bustar
#946 [17:43] <Narius> bubstar*
#947 [17:43] <bubst3r12345> ok sorry. im a troller
#948 [17:44] <lutzee> Narius: not your minecraft name
#949 [17:44] <lutzee> Your windows user log on name
#950 [17:44] <Narius> its just administrator
#951 [17:44] <Narius> i have no special characters
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#953 [17:45] <Narius> and i used to be able to play minecraft just fine one day it just kinda clicked and boom i have issues
#954 [17:47] <bubst3r12345> try a force update
#955 [17:47] <lutzee> That won't help
#956 [17:47] <Narius> and i also tried it
#957 [17:47] <bubst3r12345> go to your minecraft launcher options then force update
#958 [17:47] <Narius> that doesnt work
#959 [17:48] <Narius> and it is in version 1.3.2 as it is
#960 [17:48] <bubst3r12345> ok
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#962 [17:49] <lutzee> okay, lets take another approach
#963 [17:49] <bubst3r12345> rawr what does the value of the PATH mean???? D:
#964 [17:49] <lutzee> ??> Narius win/profile
#965 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Narius: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#966 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Narius: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#968 [17:49] <Narius> idk how to create a new user profile
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#970 [17:50] <DiskDaemon> The path lists the places that windows searches, and in what order, when it tries to find a command that you’ve entered
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#972 [17:50] <DiskDaemon> Narius: Control panel -> User accounts -> Add
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#974 [17:53] <bubst3r12345> does anyone know what the value of the PATH
#975 [17:53] <bubst3r12345> means
#976 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> bubst3r12345: The path lists the places that windows searches, and in what order, when it tries to find a command that you’ve entered
#977 [17:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> bubst3r12345: PATH is an environment variable which allows you do do stuff like type "minecraft" or "java" into a cmd prompt and have it run that program without specifying the full file path to it
#978 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> you put the full file path into the PATH variable and you can do this stuff
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#982 [17:58] <bubst3r12345> ok so now these are the instructions
#983 [17:58] <bubst3r12345> can i post them all?
#984 [17:58] <bubst3r12345> Windows 7 Select Computer from the Start menu Choose System Properties from the context menu Click Advanced system settings > Advanced tab Click on Environment Variables, under System Variables, find PATH, and click on it. In the Edit windows, modify PATH by adding the location of the class to the value for PATH. If you do not have the item PATH, you may select to add a new variable and add PATH as the name and the location of the
#985 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#986 [17:59] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#987 [17:59] <bubst3r12345> ok
#988 [17:59] * techno156 is now known as techno145
#989 [18:00] <bubst3r12345> ok i sent it
#990 [18:00] <bubst3r12345> i have done steps 1-4
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#994 [18:04] <Narius> well that didnt work
#995 [18:04] <Narius> ugh what else could possifreakingbly be the issue with my minecraft
#996 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> How about you let us know where on pastebin you sent it
#997 [18:04] <bubst3r12345> um ok
#998 [18:05] <bubst3r12345> http://pastebin.com/h0xmKxcb
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#1000 [18:06] <bubst3r12345> i sent it and then brought me to that link
#1001 [18:07] <Narius> wait if you forget a simple capital letter in ur minecraft name or email when logging in can that screw it up?
#1002 [18:07] <DiskDaemon> Yes, those look like the instructions that Java gives, at http://java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#1003 [18:08] <bubst3r12345> yes
#1004 [18:09] <Narius> no that wasnt the issue
#1005 [18:09] <bubst3r12345> now i dont know what any of it means. im trying to launch run.bat for tekkitlauncher. i open it it says a bunch of stuff then press any kay to continue. i press a key and nothing happens. the window closes and then nothing happens at all
#1006 [18:09] <Narius> omg i want to finnaly play some goddamn minecraft already
#1007 [18:09] <Narius> but this freaking stupid launcher wont let me
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#1009 [18:15] <bubst3r12345> i have to go. i will be back soon
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#1012 [18:17] <CoolGamer> I need help
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#1014 [18:17] <DJ_yoeri> hey can somewheone help me
#1015 [18:18] <CoolGamer> I need help
#1016 [18:18] <DJ_yoeri> tyeah i need help too
#1017 [18:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> ask the question
#1018 [18:18] <DJ_yoeri> what is youre problem
#1019 [18:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> competing over who needs help wont get you anywhere
#1020 [18:19] <CoolGamer> I bought minecraft with a Minecraft gift card found in stores and I haven't been able to change my skin, yes I am uploading a .png file and the skin service isn't dopwn because I can see other peoples skin
#1021 [18:19] <CoolGamer> I waited a day
#1022 [18:19] <CoolGamer> I think it is a problem with my account
#1023 [18:20] <DJ_yoeri> coolgamer so you choose and select your skin than upload it but nothing happens
#1024 [18:20] <CoolGamer> yep
#1025 [18:20] <lutzee> CoolGamer: what is your minecraft user name?
#1026 [18:20] <CoolGamer> coolgamerovr90
#1027 [18:20] <DJ_yoeri> if i want too put a mod in minecraft bin it says error what doo i need too doo
#1028 [18:20] <DJ_yoeri> do
#1029 [18:21] <lutzee> CoolGamer: Is the skin you are trying to upload a purple creeper face?
#1030 [18:21] <CoolGamer> yes, it is a rainbow creeper
#1031 [18:21] <lutzee> https://minotar.net/skin/coolgamerovr90
#1032 [18:21] <lutzee> It's uploaded
#1033 [18:21] <CoolGamer> can give you the file
#1034 [18:22] <lutzee> Sometimes the skin servers will not load your skin, but it should be visable to otherplayers
#1035 [18:22] <CoolGamer> Thanks!
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#1037 [18:22] <DJ_yoeri> if i want too put a mod in minecraft bin
#1038 [18:23] <DJ_yoeri> tis says error
#1039 [18:23] <DJ_yoeri> tnot minecraft says error but winrar
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#1041 [18:23] <CoolGamer> I tried to login and it says too many failed logins
#1042 [18:23] <CoolGamer> should I wait?
#1043 [18:24] <DJ_yoeri> wtf
#1044 [18:24] <CoolGamer> and try again
#1045 [18:24] <DJ_yoeri> tif i wass you i should think somewheone try too hack you
#1046 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> doubt it, prolly you just tried to log in too much
#1047 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont just skip to the "ZOMG IM HACKED"
#1048 [18:25] <DJ_yoeri> whereismyspoon
#1049 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> DJ_yoeri:
#1050 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
#1051 [18:25] <DJ_yoeri> if i try too put a mod in mincraft jar
#1052 [18:25] <DJ_yoeri> twinrar says error
#1053 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> i use 7zip
#1054 [18:25] <DJ_yoeri> tbut winrar always workt
#1055 [18:25] <DJ_yoeri> tuntil now
#1056 [18:26] <lutzee> You probably have minecraft running
#1057 [18:26] <CoolGamer> I didn't I have remember my password checked and it was already there, I just press login and see the minecraft title screen, I didn't do it on minecraft.net or mojang.com
#1058 [18:26] <DJ_yoeri> nope
#1059 [18:26] <DJ_yoeri> ti try again
#1060 [18:26] <CoolGamer> I still get it
#1061 [18:27] <CoolGamer> I doubt someone tryed to hack me
#1062 [18:27] <CoolGamer> tried*
#1063 [18:28] <DJ_yoeri> i put a mod but i now only get black screen what now
#1064 [18:29] <CoolGamer> can anyone check and see why I can't login?
#1065 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> The volunteers helping in this channel have as much ability to check things as you do - but perhaps a little bit more knowledge that may help
#1066 [18:30] <DJ_yoeri> ti put a mod in but now i only get black screen what now
#1067 [18:30] <CoolGamer> do you know if I will be able to log in, or simpily wait an hour and try to log in again
#1068 [18:31] <CoolGamer> DJ-yoeri did you delete the meta-inf folder?
#1069 [18:31] <DJ_yoeri> wait
#1070 [18:31] <DJ_yoeri> yep
#1071 [18:31] <DJ_yoeri> i did
#1072 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: If you want to remove the mod (we don’t tend to provide mod support in here), force an update to get back to a working Minecraft
#1073 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> ??> DJ_yoeri forceupdate
#1074 [18:32] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1075 [18:32] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1076 [18:32] <CoolGamer> I don't know why you are getting a black screen but if you can't fix it you should do a force update
#1077 [18:32] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#1078 [18:32] <DJ_yoeri> but my worlds stay right
#1079 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1080 [18:33] <CoolGamer> does anyone know why I get Too Many Failed Logins when I didn't even try to log in?
#1081 [18:33] <DJ_yoeri> so if i do force update all the mods delte
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#1083 [18:33] <DJ_yoeri> delete
#1084 [18:34] <CoolGamer> it was afterit was after my skin was uploaded
#1085 [18:34] <CoolGamer> it was after my skin was uploaded*
#1086 [18:35] <CoolGamer> should I just send a wmail to support@mojang.com
#1087 [18:36] <CoolGamer> I sent them a email a long time ago and they never responded so that is why I come here
#1088 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> you could, but it’d be a waste of time. They’ll tell you to do what we’re telling you now
#1089 [18:36] <CoolGamer> so should I just wait a hour and try again?
#1090 [18:37] <CoolGamer> I still get too many failed logins
#1091 [18:37] <DJ_yoeri> is this the ok modloader
#1092 [18:37] <DJ_yoeri> http://www.minecraftmine.org/minecraft-1-0-0-modloader-1-0-0-mod/
#1093 [18:37] <DJ_yoeri> or should i take other site
#1094 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> CoolGamer: Could it be due to someone else attempting to log in with your account?
#1095 [18:38] <CoolGamer> brb
#1096 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: We don’t support mods here
#1097 [18:38] <CoolGamer> i dont think so, ill. try again.
#1098 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> DJ_yoeri mods
#1099 [18:38] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1100 [18:38] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1101 [18:39] <DJ_yoeri> #bukkit
#1102 [18:39] <CoolGamer> it gives me the option to try again or play offline, should i play offline?
#1103 [18:39] <DJ_yoeri> nothing happens
#1104 [18:39] <DJ_yoeri> coolgamer that means you that you didnt purchase it
#1105 [18:40] <CoolGamer> i did
#1106 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> If you already have the game downloaded then yes you can play offline
#1107 [18:40] <DJ_yoeri> ttry again
#1108 [18:40] <CoolGamer> i did purchase it
#1109 [18:40] <CoolGamer> so, i should play offline?
#1110 [18:40] <DJ_yoeri> tno than you cant play on servers
#1111 [18:40] <CoolGamer> ill try and see
#1112 [18:40] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#1113 [18:41] <CoolGamer> i can play on servers
#1114 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> CoolGamer: What is your minecraft username?
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#1118 [18:48] <DJ_yoeri> the site that voxelhead give too my i cant find modloader 1.2.3
#1119 [18:48] <DJ_yoeri> tit doesn't show it
#1120 [18:49] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/1.2.3/modloader.zip
#1121 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> that is 1.2.3
#1122 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> its now
#1123 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> 1.3.2
#1124 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> tsrry for wrong
#1125 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> tversion
#1126 [18:50] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/1.3.2/modloader.zip
#1127 [18:50] <DJ_yoeri> tthnx
#1128 [18:51] <DJ_yoeri> because i already had modloader but because i put that in minecraft bin it give too my black screen so i hope this one work
#1129 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: Detailed instructions on installing mods are to be found at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods’
#1130 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> Err, without the ‘ - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#1133 [18:52] <TheGamerGuy500> hey
#1134 [18:52] <techno145> hi
#1135 [18:52] <TheGamerGuy500> We have a skin problem
#1136 [18:53] <techno145> with
#1137 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> Minecraft
#1138 [18:53] <techno145> what happens?
#1139 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> I set my Green-shirterd steve skin 8 times now
#1140 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> and I go into a server
#1141 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> and OH HOW LOVELY
#1142 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> STEVE STILL HAS A BLUE SHIRT
#1143 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> >_<
#1144 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> I even waited like 30 seconds
#1145 [18:53] <techno145> did you go unto minecraft.net
#1146 [18:53] <TheGamerGuy500> Yes
#1147 [18:54] <techno145> okay...
#1148 [18:54] <techno145> ??< skins
#1149 [18:55] <techno145> .
#1150 [18:55] <TheGamerGuy500> Yes
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#1152 [18:56] <techno145> Did you click 'apply'?
#1153 [18:56] <techno145> assuming there is one
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#1157 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? skin/upload
#1158 [18:58] <VoxelHead> skin/upload: Try remote skin upload. Upload a skin using a site like imgur.com and then use this URL to point it (replace last part with imgur url to image): http://www.minecraft.net/skin/remote.jsp?url=UrlToSkinFile
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#1160 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/skins
#1161 [18:59] <VoxelHead> smp/skins: Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#1162 [18:59] <TheGamerGuy500> Uh
#1163 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> SO
#1164 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> I went to profile
#1165 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> Skin
#1166 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> Chose the file of Green-shirted steve
#1167 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> (I uploaded off my USB stick.)
#1168 [19:00] <TheGamerGuy500> clicked "upload"
#1169 [19:01] <TheGamerGuy500> Your skin has been changed! It will take a couple of seconds for it to update.
#1170 [19:01] <TheGamerGuy500> I reload minecraft
#1171 [19:01] <TheGamerGuy500> OH LOOK
#1172 [19:01] <TheGamerGuy500> DAT BLUE SHIRT
#1173 [19:01] <techno145> Try putting it on your computer
#1174 [19:01] <techno145> the skin
#1175 [19:01] <lutzee> TheGamerGuy500: you will show as geen to other people
#1176 [19:01] <TheGamerGuy500> I asked some of the guys on the server
#1177 [19:02] <TheGamerGuy500> "u don't have a green shirt game"
#1178 [19:02] <lutzee> Hmm in game name?
#1179 [19:02] <TheGamerGuy500> Bug perhaps?
#1180 [19:02] <TheGamerGuy500> Yesh
#1181 [19:02] <TheGamerGuy500> My minecraft name is the name I'm using right now
#1182 [19:02] <TheGamerGuy500> on IRC
#1183 [19:03] <TheGamerGuy500> ...
#1184 [19:03] <TheGamerGuy500> WHAT DO
#1185 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> (at least I got help this time)
#1186 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> >_<
#1187 [19:04] <lutzee> TheGamerGuy500: it's showing perfectly fine here https://minotar.net/skin/TheGamerGuy500
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#1189 [19:04] <CoolGamer> can someone please help?
#1190 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> a couple hours ago I asked for help
#1191 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> no one answered
#1192 [19:04] <lutzee> It is on the minecraft skin servers TheGamerGuy500
#1193 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> everyone was idle
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#1195 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> Well thats great
#1196 [19:04] <CoolGamer> anyone on?
#1197 [19:04] <TheGamerGuy500> is it supposed to show up for you?
#1198 [19:05] <TheGamerGuy500> on your screen
#1199 [19:05] <TheGamerGuy500> F5 mode?
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#1201 [19:05] <techno145> maybe it's something to do with the server?
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#1203 [19:06] <TheGamerGuy500> skins show up for others just dandy
#1204 [19:07] <TheGamerGuy500> The female skin is purty :3
#1205 [19:07] <CoolGamer> lol IO had the same problem but someone on here uploaded it for me
#1206 [19:07] <techno145> CoolGamer, don't ask for help >_<
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#1208 [19:08] <DJ_yoeri> guys like i want too download this http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/361430-132smp-smart-moving/page__st__5160__hl__+modloader%20+132#entry17790023 but it is only comments no download
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#1211 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: Instructions on installing mods are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#1213 [19:10] <DJ_yoeri> i know but there is no download link at the page thats my problem
#1214 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: Use the search - it’s at the top-right
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#1216 [19:12] <CoolGamer_> can anyone check to see if I have a skin?
#1217 [19:12] <techno145> yep
#1218 [19:12] <CoolGamer_> my minecraft usernane is coolgamerovr90
#1219 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: If you need help for installing mods, you are in the wrong place. This channel does not provice mods support
#1220 [19:13] <DJ_yoeri> its not for help
#1221 [19:13] <DJ_yoeri> ti know how
#1222 [19:13] <techno145> https://minotar.net/skin/coolgamerovr90
#1223 [19:13] <techno145> try that
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#1225 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: Your ability to communicate effectively with us appears to eb waning
#1226 [19:14] <DJ_yoeri> what
#1227 [19:15] <techno145> .
#1228 [19:15] <DJ_yoeri> srry for the t all the time because in minecraft you need too press t so i am used too it
#1229 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: By that I mean, what you said before doesn’t seem to make any sense that can be capable of being interpreted from what you say
#1230 [19:16] <techno145> DJ_yoeri, try slowing down
#1231 [19:16] <DJ_yoeri> but i want too ask is there also dutch help page for my friend
#1232 [19:16] <techno145> Coolgamer_, try this:https://minotar.net/skin/coolgamerovr90
#1233 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> DJ_yoeri: See http://nl.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hoofdpagina
#1234 [19:18] <DJ_yoeri> ok thnx
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#1236 [19:26] <CoolGamer> my skin dosen't show up in game
#1237 [19:26] <CoolGamer> what is that^
#1238 [19:26] <CoolGamer> my irc is messed up
#1239 [19:26] <Wug> did you just change it? there have historically been some issues with skins
#1240 [19:27] <Wug> CoolGamer: whats your minecraft username
#1241 [19:27] <CoolGamer> coolgamerovr90
#1242 [19:27] <techno145> CoolGamer, the issue with IRC is your internet connection
#1243 [19:28] <techno145> It seems to be rather slow...
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#1245 [19:32] <Chicago> So, is minecraft.net down?
#1246 [19:32] <Chicago> Anyone ?
#1247 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ says yes, it is down
#1248 [19:33] <techno145> !isdown minecraft.net
#1249 [19:33] <CoolGamer> yes it is
#1250 [19:33] <GreyBot> techno145: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1251 [19:33] <techno145> I wonder how...
#1252 [19:33] <Wug> seems to be up for me
#1253 [19:33] <Chicago> -.-
#1254 [19:33] <techno145> O_o
#1255 [19:33] <Chicago> Dats messed up.
#1256 [19:34] <Wug> minecraft does this every so often
#1257 [19:34] <Chicago> True.
#1258 [19:34] <Wug> it will probably be fixed tomorrow
#1259 [19:34] <Yerg> Pffft
#1260 [19:34] <Chicago> Hopefully sooner then that...
#1261 [19:34] <Wug> ;haspaid apocalypse_r
#1262 [19:34] <WugBot> apocalypse_r has paid for minecraft.
#1263 [19:34] <Wug> wugbot still sees it
#1264 [19:34] <Yerg> !paid greyvulpine
#1265 [19:35] <techno145> it's 'haspaid
#1266 [19:35] * Yerg prods aubot
#1266 [19:35] <Yerg> Yay
#1267 [19:35] <Chicago> :/ I wish it would come online... -.-
#1268 [19:35] <Wug> techno145: we know how the bots work
#1269 [19:36] <Yerg> Lies.
#1270 [19:36] <techno145> .
#1271 [19:36] <Wug> Chicago: pull up a command prompt and ping it
#1272 [19:36] <Chicago> What?
#1273 [19:36] <techno145> cmd
#1274 [19:36] <Chicago> Okay?
#1275 [19:36] <Wug> click start, type cmd
#1276 [19:36] <Chicago> I did that.
#1277 [19:36] <Chicago> Now?
#1278 [19:36] <osuka_> hit enter
#1279 [19:37] <Chicago> Now?
#1280 [19:37] <osuka_> black window should pop up
#1281 [19:37] <Wug> black box should appear. type ping minecraft.net into the box
#1282 [19:37] <CoolGamer> I can't see my skin in game
#1283 [19:37] <techno145> CoolGamer, try https://minotar.net/skin/coolgamerovr90
#1284 [19:37] <Chicago> What did that do?
#1285 [19:37] <techno145> to see your skin
#1286 [19:37] <techno145> Chicago, wait
#1287 [19:37] <Chicago> Okay.
#1288 [19:37] <osuka_> Chicago: basically it tries to connect to their server
#1289 [19:37] <techno145> Did you press enter?
#1290 [19:37] <osuka_> it sends a packet (bunch of data)
#1291 [19:37] <Chicago> I see.
#1292 [19:37] <techno145> Scratch that
#1293 [19:37] <Wug> it should say something like pinging minecraft.net (w.x.y.z)
#1294 [19:38] <Wug> w.x.y.z is an ip address
#1295 [19:38] <CoolGamer> https://minotar.net/skin/coolgamerovr90 my skin shows up here but dosen't in game
#1296 [19:38] <Wug> what did it say the ip address was
#1297 [19:38] <Chicago> The ip is...
#1298 [19:38] <osuka_> Chicago: and they return. The number is the ping (time is takes to send the info and then receive it back), in miliseconds.
#1299 [19:38] <techno145> CoolGamer, have you asked other people
#1300 [19:38] <CoolGamer> yes
#1301 [19:38] <Chicago> Wait, so tell you the ip ?
#1302 [19:38] <techno145> and?
#1303 [19:38] <CoolGamer> hold on
#1304 [19:38] <Wug> Chicago: yes
#1305 [19:38] <Wug> minecraft doesnt actually respond to pings but you can still look up the ip address with it
#1306 [19:39] <Chicago> 107.21.108.90
#1307 [19:39] <osuka_> well that's just right
#1308 [19:39] <Wug> yeah, looks like it changed
#1309 [19:39] <Wug> im seeing 23.21.111.59
#1310 [19:39] <Chicago> Is that a bad thing?
#1311 [19:39] <osuka_> mine was exactly that
#1312 [19:39] <CoolGamer> I am in game right now and nobody's answering me
#1313 [19:39] <Wug> osuka_: can you hit minecraft.net from a browser
#1314 [19:39] <osuka_> Wug: try ipconfig /flushdns
#1315 [19:39] <osuka_> well I know
#1316 [19:40] <osuka_> oh, there it is
#1317 [19:40] <osuka_> check it our
#1318 [19:40] <osuka_> out*: https://minecraft.net/
#1319 [19:40] <osuka_> we're poking on some of our servers. pleace check back later.
#1320 [19:40] <Chicago> F^^
#1321 [19:40] <osuka_> so do that, wait a few more hours and it should work.
#1322 [19:40] <Chicago> :/
#1323 [19:40] <Wug> still works fine for me :|
#1324 [19:40] <osuka_> lemme see if I can login
#1325 [19:41] <Wug> they use this weird cloud hosting thing
#1326 [19:41] <osuka_> just logged in
#1327 [19:41] <Chicago> -.-
#1328 [19:41] <osuka_> also, brb
#1329 [19:41] <Chicago> Wow..
#1330 [19:41] <Wug> CoolGamer: try a different server?
#1331 [19:41] <CoolGamer> I don't know if anyone else can see my skin because their not answering me, but I can't
#1332 [19:42] <CoolGamer> I am not sure if it is a proble with my account
#1333 [19:42] <CoolGamer> problem*
#1334 [19:42] <Wug> its not
#1335 [19:42] <Wug> this has been happening for a long time
#1336 [19:42] <techno145> bug?
#1337 [19:42] <Wug> it will fix itself eventually
#1338 [19:42] <CoolGamer> I can see other people's skin
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#1340 [19:42] <CoolGamer> skins*]
#1341 [19:43] <Chicago> Hurry up minecraft! -.-
#1342 [19:43] <CoolGamer> I haven't been able to see it since I have uploaded it
#1343 [19:43] <lutzee> CoolGamer: ir is on the skins server, just the server doesn't seem to be providing textures to some poeple at the moment, probably a DNS issue too
#1344 [19:44] <CoolGamer> I tried a diffrent server and it still dosen't show :(
#1345 [19:44] <techno145> skin server issue
#1346 [19:44] <CoolGamer> I can see other peoples skin's though
#1347 [19:44] <CoolGamer> ok
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#1349 [19:47] <osuka_> I be back
#1350 [19:47] <osuka_> sorry, had to go
#1351 [19:47] <osuka_> what did I lose?
#1352 [19:47] <Chicago> Not much.
#1353 [19:48] <osuka_> just something, I wasn't helping you from the beginning
#1354 [19:48] <osuka_> what's your problem, again?
#1355 [19:48] <Chicago> Just checking to see if others couldn't connect to minecraft.net
#1356 [19:48] <Chicago> Or if it was just my connectiong.
#1357 [19:48] <Chicago> *connection
#1358 [19:48] <osuka_> so remember that cmd thing we did?
#1359 [19:48] <Chicago> Yeah.
#1360 [19:48] <osuka_> open it again
#1361 [19:48] <osuka_> remember that?
#1362 [19:49] <Chicago> Alright.
#1363 [19:49] <CoolGamer> I can't see my skin but I can see other people's skin
#1364 [19:49] <CoolGamer> skins
#1365 [19:49] <Chicago> What ya want me to type in?
#1366 [19:49] <osuka_> CoolGamer: we get it, it'll get back eventually
#1367 [19:49] <osuka_> alone.
#1368 [19:49] <CoolGamer> ok
#1369 [19:49] <osuka_> Chicago: type in ipconfig /flushdns
#1370 [19:50] <Chicago> Now?
#1371 [19:50] <osuka_> hit enter
#1372 [19:50] <Chicago> I did...
#1373 [19:50] <osuka_> ok, so close
#1374 [19:50] <osuka_> try connecting to minecraft
#1375 [19:50] <techno145> any luck?
#1376 [19:50] <Chicago> Still can't..
#1377 [19:51] <osuka_> have you tried rebooting your computer?
#1378 [19:51] <osuka_> when did it start happening?
#1379 [19:51] <Chicago> Not yet
#1380 [19:51] <lutzee> Chicago: what anti virus software do you use?
#1381 [19:51] <osuka_> if it's comodo, reboot. now.
#1382 [19:51] <Chicago> Uh, idk. lol.
#1383 [19:51] <Chicago> Hold on, I'm gonna try to reboot, I'll be back in a few mins.
#1384 [19:51] <osuka_> Chicago: something like AVG, Avast!, McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky, Comodo, Panda, etc.
#1385 [19:52] <osuka_> Chicago: we'll be waiting.
#1386 [19:52] <Chicago> Sounds good.
#1387 [19:52] <CoolGamer> AVG tends to cause alot of problems with minecraft I am one of those people who itt affected
#1388 [19:52] <CoolGamer> I don't use it anymore because of that
#1389 [19:52] <techno145> I haven't paid
#1390 [19:53] <techno145> so I'm stuck with demo :(
#1391 [19:53] <techno145> Maybe till next week :)
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#1395 [20:01] <Chicago> Hey guys, I'm back.
#1396 [20:01] <osuka_> hey mate
#1397 [20:02] <osuka_> did it work?
#1398 [20:02] <Chicago> Nope :/
#1399 [20:02] <osuka_> do you have any other connections you could try?
#1400 [20:02] <osuka_> could use*
#1401 [20:02] <Chicago> Yeah, let me try..
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#1404 [20:03] <Chicago> Eh, still nothing.
#1405 [20:04] * Guest2120 is now known as superkabii
#1406 [20:04] <superkabii> anyone know how (command line property or otherwise if possible) to tell minecraft to use an alternate jar?
#1407 [20:04] <superkabii> (programming question)
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#1410 [20:05] <lutzee> superkabii: Just use MultiMC custom launcher, much easier
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#1412 [20:05] <superkabii> lutzee, nah, question for integration with something else
#1413 [20:06] <pyromaniac3814> hey guys i need a redstone thing thats changes its output every time it gets a input
#1414 [20:06] <lutzee> Um, you could probably use batch to swap out a minecraft.jar from set folders
#1415 [20:07] <Chicago> Can anyone else not connect to www.minecraft.net ?
#1416 [20:07] <osuka_> it's down, but I can connect
#1417 [20:07] <pyromaniac3814> as in i need a button to act as a lever does
#1418 [20:07] <lutzee> Chicago: Can you find out what anti virus you are using please?
#1419 [20:07] <Chicago> Yeah, hold on..
#1420 [20:07] <osuka_> lutzee: check this out, might be relevant http://help.mojang.com/
#1421 [20:08] <lutzee> osuka_: not relevant
#1422 [20:08] <osuka_> help.mojang.com says minecraft.net... is down
#1423 [20:08] <lutzee> He's having trouble connecting to logins, not the website
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#1425 [20:08] <Wug> pyromaniac3814: they call those latches
#1426 [20:08] <Wug> you need a short pulse and a latch
#1427 [20:09] <pyromaniac3814> ok let me look that up
#1428 [20:09] <Wug> hook the output of the short pulse up to both sides of the latch
#1429 [20:09] <L33TKillah> Anyone else cant change the skin ? The skin are working fine, but it dont change.
#1430 [20:09] <Wug> L33TKillah: lots of people
#1431 [20:09] <Wug> minecraft is purportedly undergoing maintanence
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#1433 [20:09] <L33TKillah> Hmm.. But why only some ? My friend can change the skin, but i cant.
#1434 [20:10] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: Go take a look at cubehamster, he's a really good youtube/redstoner
#1435 [20:10] <sephr> Does anyone know how to use SLI with Minecraft?
#1436 [20:10] <Wug> sephr: turn it on
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#1438 [20:10] <Wug> it will either magically work or it wont
#1439 [20:10] <sephr> I tried forcing AFR1 and AFR2 in the nvidia control panel
#1440 [20:10] <Wug> if it doesnt, its not configured to support it
#1441 [20:10] <sephr> Wug: I mean is there any way to mod the gfx engine to support sli?
#1442 [20:11] <Wug> maybe but it would take a lot of time, effort, and manual work
#1443 [20:11] <sephr> because 1 GTX 680 isn't enough for me
#1444 [20:11] <Wug> yes it is gtfo
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#1446 [20:11] <Wug> whats your framerate like 500
#1447 [20:11] <sephr> I need to use 4 way SLI to render minecraft with SEUS at 1440p and 120fps
#1448 [20:11] <Wug> you have a 60 hz monitor
#1449 [20:11] <sephr> Wug: I get 44fps with SEUS at 2560x1440 max everything
#1450 [20:11] <sephr> also I have a 120hz monitor
#1451 [20:11] <sephr> not 60
#1452 [20:12] <Wug> try optifine
#1453 [20:12] <sephr> SEUS requires optifine
#1454 [20:12] <superkabii> lutzee, yeah, that's what I meant. I know that's the obvious way of doing things, but I wanted to know if there was some secret command line property for MC to just make it use a different jar
#1455 [20:12] <sephr> and it's up to date
#1456 [20:12] <Wug> then try google
#1457 [20:12] <sephr> I have
#1458 [20:12] <Chicago> Alright, my Antivirus is Trend Micro.
#1459 [20:12] <osuka_> might be problematic
#1460 [20:12] <Wug> google says minecraft is not comparible with sli
#1461 [20:13] <L33TKillah> Wug... But why my friend can change the skin but i cant ?
#1462 [20:13] <Wug> L33TKillah: long story short, amazon's cloud hosting stuff works in some places but not others right now
#1463 [20:13] <lutzee> FML, The skin servers are not working properly? Okay? No matter how much complaining to us, we can't do anything about it.
#1464 [20:14] <Chicago> Lol, lutzee.
#1465 [20:14] <pyromaniac3814> idk what type of gate i want lol
#1466 [20:14] * lutzee points at the topic that everyone is shown when they connect here
#1466 [20:14] <Chicago> ^
#1467 [20:14] <lutzee> pyromaniac3814: you want a button into a pulse former then into a toggle latch
#1468 [20:15] <pyromaniac3814> pulse former does what ?
#1469 [20:15] <L33TKillah> *Sigh*... Well... 74 reais (Brazilian money) spend to get a problematic account...
#1470 [20:15] <lutzee> outputs a short pulse when it recieves a pulse (of any length)
#1471 [20:16] <pyromaniac3814> i see
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#1474 [20:22] <Wug> I just realized I spelled compatible* wrong.
#1475 [20:23] <pyromaniac3814> i still cant find a latch that does what i want lol
#1476 [20:23] <pyromaniac3814> it needs to have one input
#1477 [20:23] <pyromaniac3814> and one output
#1478 [20:24] <pyromaniac3814> and the output needs to change when the input gets a redstone signsl
#1479 [20:24] <Wug> pyromaniac3814: do you have your short pulser
#1480 [20:24] <pyromaniac3814> im still looking for a disign that will work
#1481 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Why not just use an RS nor latch
#1482 [20:25] <pyromaniac3814> has to have 3 inputs
#1483 [20:25] <Wug> he needs a short pulser too
#1484 [20:25] <pyromaniac3814> 2
#1485 [20:25] <pyromaniac3814> not three
#1486 [20:25] <Wug> I dont remember what those are called
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#1488 [20:25] <pyromaniac3814> the rs nor has 2 inputs
#1489 [20:25] <Wug> pyromaniac3814: like I said earlier, wire them together
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#1491 [20:25] <pyromaniac3814> how so ??
#1492 [20:25] <Wug> just get a short pulse working
#1493 [20:26] <pyromaniac3814> pulse shortener ??
#1494 [20:26] <Wug> that will probably work
#1495 [20:26] <pyromaniac3814> and what after that ?
#1496 [20:27] <Wug> wire it to both inputs of the latch
#1497 [20:27] <pyromaniac3814> oh i think i see where your going
#1498 [20:28] <pyromaniac3814> let me test it
#1499 [20:32] <pyromaniac3814> you guys know of any online redstone simulators ?
#1500 [20:32] <pyromaniac3814> nvm i found one
#1501 [20:35] <techno145> i would like one
#1502 [20:35] <techno145> any ideas?
#1503 [20:36] <Wug> pyromaniac3814: how about minecraft
#1504 [20:36] <Wug> (just use creative mode)
#1505 [20:36] <pyromaniac3814> lol i dont have the pc version
#1506 [20:37] <pyromaniac3814> i have the 360 one
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#1508 [20:37] <pyromaniac3814> creative isnt out for a week or so
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#1515 [20:50] <pyromaniac3814> i havent found a latch that will work
#1516 [20:52] <CoolGamer> ./afk
#1517 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> pyromaniac3814: What is it that you want the latch to do?
#1518 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> pyromaniac3814: What is it that you want the latch to do?
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#1520 [20:55] <pyromaniac3814> i need it to change its state with the press of a button so i push the button and it turns on i push again it turns off
#1521 [20:55] <pyromaniac3814> like that
#1522 [20:55] <pyromaniac3814> is there anything that does that ?
#1523 [20:55] <lutzee> let me have a look
#1524 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> an RS/NOR latch works just like that
#1525 [20:56] <pyromaniac3814> needs to have just one input
#1526 [20:56] <pyromaniac3814> the rs/nor has 2 inputs
#1527 [20:56] <pyromaniac3814> one to turn on and one to turn off
#1528 [20:57] <pyromaniac3814> it needs to work with one button
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#1531 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> So perhaps you need a flipflop instead
#1532 [21:00] <pyromaniac3814> possably
#1533 [21:00] <lutzee> t flip flop this one would be good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijbBjol_XIc
#1534 [21:01] <lutzee> the second one is better
#1535 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Hell - why not just use a lever? That’s the simplest way to toggle something on with one activation, and off with the next.
#1536 [21:02] <lutzee> He want's it to be a button
#1537 [21:02] <pyromaniac3814> yes
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#1539 [21:02] <lutzee> Any of the ones listed in that video are fine
#1540 [21:02] <pyromaniac3814> i want to have a button on my wall that works my pistons
#1541 [21:02] <lutzee> they are all activated by a button
#1542 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Some people just have to be picky. Prepare to use a lot of territory for each flipflop then
#1543 [21:03] <lutzee> DiskDaemon: look at that video, honestly you'll be surpised
#1544 [21:03] <lutzee> theres a 4x4x1 stackable t flip flop
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#1546 [21:04] <pyromaniac3814> that a sweet vid
#1547 [21:04] <lutzee> I told you cubehamster was a great guy for it
#1548 [21:04] <pyromaniac3814> since when can you do this with the repeaters ?
#1549 [21:04] <lutzee> Since always
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#1551 [21:04] <pyromaniac3814> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:T_flip-flop_ADEJK.png
#1552 [21:05] <lutzee> They are... old designs
#1553 [21:05] <osuka_> night people
#1554 [21:05] <pyromaniac3814> on figrure k\
#1555 [21:05] <lutzee> People never think about vertical redstone.. :p
#1556 [21:05] <pyromaniac3814> the one to the far left whats the piont of that one ?
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#1558 [21:06] <pyromaniac3814> point*
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#1560 [21:06] <pyromaniac3814> it cant be powered where it is
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#1562 [21:07] <pyromaniac3814> you see it ?
#1563 [21:07] <lutzee> It can, the block beneath it is also powered
#1564 [21:07] <pyromaniac3814> when could you do that ?
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#1566 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> nice work there
#1567 [21:08] <pyromaniac3814> was that added after 1.7.2 ?
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#1570 [21:09] <swargula> having super minecraft lag issues on a brand new powerful computer. Looked everywhere and have found nothing to help. Any suggestions?
#1571 [21:10] <pyromaniac3814> bad internet ?
#1572 [21:10] <lutzee> swargula: Make sure you download the latest drivers for everything off the respective websites, PC's only ever come with drivers from the launch date
#1573 [21:11] <swargula> im actually new to PC how do I update drivers?
#1574 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> Improving the networking situation is a guaranteed way ot fix lag problems
#1575 [21:11] <swargula> the lag is single/multi/browser
#1576 [21:11] <swargula> in all three MC mode
#1577 [21:11] <swargula> s
#1578 [21:11] <lutzee> Lets start by finding out what Parts are in your PC
#1579 [21:12] <lutzee> ??> swargula win/dxdiag
#1580 [21:12] <VoxelHead> swargula: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1581 [21:12] <VoxelHead> swargula: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1582 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Then it’s not lag - it’s a slow framerate, or some other problem but most definately not lag.
#1583 [21:13] <swargula> it shouldnt be framerate though, 8 RAM iv reset the processes in the task manager and everything else under the sun
#1584 [21:13] <lutzee> Framerate is not tied to the RAM usages
#1585 [21:13] <lutzee> swargula: follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1586 [21:14] <swargula> http://pastebin.com/GgZbsyyg
#1587 [21:14] <swargula> like that?
#1588 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> swargula: When things slow down, is it at a consistant slow speed or is it irregular, and how slow does it get? You can use F3 to see the framerate info along with other dettails too
#1589 [21:14] <lutzee> Alienware :|
#1590 [21:15] <swargula> it lags once, then seconds later worse and worse until its unmovable and I can barely escape out
#1591 [21:15] <lutzee> Typical Decent CPU, Poor GPU
#1592 [21:15] <lutzee> ??> swargula gpu/nvidia
#1593 [21:15] <VoxelHead> swargula: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1594 [21:16] <swargula> is it just the drivers then?
#1595 [21:17] <lutzee> Maybe
#1596 [21:17] <lutzee> But your GPU isn't anywhere as powerfull as alienware (Dell) make out
#1597 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> swargula: Can you please use the F3 debug screen to help us find out what is causing the slowdown - the pie chart will show some segment getting larger as the slowdown occurs
#1598 [21:17] <swargula> its updating...22 minutes though
#1599 [21:17] <lutzee> Yes, alienwares are made by dell
#1600 [21:18] <Wug> swargula: get 64 bit java
#1601 [21:21] <Wug> lutzee: its an ok gpu
#1602 [21:21] <Wug> it will handle minecraft better than any intel one
#1603 [21:21] <Wug> its about what you'd expect to see in a laptop
#1604 [21:21] <lutzee> Wug: i mean compared to the price he would have paid for it
#1605 [21:22] <Wug> thats because alienware is a brand
#1606 [21:22] <lutzee> It's not a laptop though..
#1607 [21:24] <Wug> whatever
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#1609 [21:24] <Wug> its probably a $120 or $130 card
#1610 [21:24] <Wug> or it would have been a year ago
#1611 [21:24] <Wug> now, maybe $100
#1612 [21:24] <matmoeb> hi, please help, i cant figure out the problem with my mac client
#1613 [21:24] <CoolGamer> I am using a alienware computer right now
#1614 [21:25] <matmoeb> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1513286-mac-minecraft-crashing-after-login-cant-figure-it-out/
#1615 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1616 [21:25] <lutzee> Let me guess, says take it to the trash?
#1617 [21:25] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1618 [21:25] <CoolGamer> get 64 bit java
#1619 [21:25] <CoolGamer> I had to pull out my graphics card and use a the HDMI port on the back :(
#1620 [21:25] <CoolGamer> Mine is less powerful
#1621 [21:26] <matmoeb> 'anywhere' is already selected, and i have updated java
#1622 [21:26] <Wug> geforce 550 is anywhere between 100 and 120 but it looks like 545 is oem only
#1623 [21:26] <Wug> matmoeb: try force updating
#1624 [21:26] <Wug> :fu
#1625 [21:26] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1626 [21:26] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#1627 [21:26] <matmoeb> wug: i have
#1628 [21:27] <Wug> its missing a class, which is a can't happen error
#1629 [21:27] <Wug> generally indicates attempting and failing to mod
#1630 [21:27] <matmoeb> i have also deleted the application support minecraft folder
#1631 [21:27] <matmoeb> so where outside of the application support folders could the corruption be?
#1632 [21:27] <Wug> it wouldnt be outside it
#1633 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete the correct folder?
#1634 [21:28] <Wug> after you do that does it redownload by itself?
#1635 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Is application support inside your home folder?
#1636 [21:28] <Wug> if it doesn't youre deleting the wrong folder
#1637 [21:28] <matmoeb> library>application support>minecraft
#1638 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> There are multiple library folders on a mac.
#1639 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you hit ~/Library/Application SUpport/minecraft
#1640 [21:30] <matmoeb> yes i have
#1641 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you do it again, just for posterity's sake.
#1642 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Hit command+shift+g to bring up your go to folder command
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#1644 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1645 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside.
#1646 [21:33] <matmoeb> type it where?
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#1648 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you press the command+shift+g keys on your keyboard?
#1649 [21:33] <matmoeb> nothing
#1650 [21:34] <matmoeb> im on a mac btw
#1651 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> I understand that. Pressing those keys should bring up a window.
#1652 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're pressing those exact three keys
#1653 [21:34] <matmoeb> nothin
#1654 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> The command key is the one with the cloverleaf icon, yes?
#1655 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> The shift key is the one that says, 'shift' on it.
#1656 [21:35] <matmoeb> lol
#1657 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> g, well, self explainatory
#1658 [21:35] <matmoeb> ok
#1659 [21:35] <matmoeb> it didnt work with the left ones, did with the right
#1660 [21:35] <matmoeb> it says folder doesnt exist, probably since i deleted it already
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#1662 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the client from minecraft.net/download and run it again.
#1663 [21:38] <Chicago> To bad minecraft.net is down.
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#1665 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> !client
#1666 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1667 [21:39] <matmoeb> it downloads packages, and comes to the singleplayer/mulit/options screen
#1668 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright..
#1669 [21:39] <matmoeb> then crashes instead of building terrain
#1670 [21:39] <Chicago> I feel very stupid right now.... :(
#1671 [21:39] <Chicago> lol.
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#1673 [21:41] <Chicago> Well, thanks to all who helped me fix my problem! See you guys later, peace!
#1674 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> matmoeb - Does ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft work via command+shift+g now?
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#1676 [21:42] <matmoeb> yes
#1677 [21:42] <jimmy> the previous update came out and i only got some of the items and things like that
#1678 [21:43] <jimmy> like it only udated half way
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#1681 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> jimmy - What antivirus do you use?
#1682 [21:45] <jimmy> mcfee
#1683 [21:45] <garetttodd> i tried to purchase minecraft and it said that i needed to try a different credit/debit card. i tried a different card and once again it said i needed to try again. how can i purchase minecraft without it doing this
#1684 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> matmoeb - Hmm.
#1685 [21:45] <Wug> jimmy: what items did you not get
#1686 [21:45] <Wug> garetttodd: did you try to use prepaid cards?
#1687 [21:46] <garetttodd> i used a credit card
#1688 [21:46] <matmoeb> im pretty bummed, i do have a pc that is working fine, but i was looking forward to having friends join on this macbook
#1689 [21:46] <lutzee> garetttodd: PayPal
#1690 [21:46] <garetttodd> yes it was a mastercard
#1691 [21:46] <jimmy> carrot potatoes nether star bats basicly 75 % of the patch is not hear
#1692 [21:46] <Wug> matmoeb: your error is darn weird
#1693 [21:47] <lutzee> GreyVulpine: might want to get matmoeb to check if its a profile only issue :)
#1694 [21:47] <matmoeb> even if an attempted mod screwed it up, deleting the app support files would clear that right?
#1695 [21:47] <Wug> are there any updates to java available
#1696 [21:47] <Wug> yes it would.
#1697 [21:47] <matmoeb> i have another username and it fails also
#1698 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty certain it's a mod problem
#1699 [21:47] <matmoeb> i have 2 paid profiles
#1700 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> But deleting the minecraft folder should fix it
#1701 [21:48] <Wug> ^
#1702 [21:48] <garetttodd> hello
#1703 [21:48] <lutzee> garetttodd: i said use paypal
#1704 [21:48] <matmoeb> i have deleted that folder about 20 times, empty my trash, and also reinstall the client, also force update, and scoured the internet looking for clues
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#1707 [21:50] <jimmy> were do i delete minecraft folder
#1708 [21:51] <garetttodd> when i tried to purchase minecraft it said i should use a different credit/debit card. we did this and it did the same thing what should i do
#1709 [21:52] <garetttodd> can you help me
#1710 [21:52] <garetttodd> can you help me
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#1714 [21:55] <matmoeb> i guess there is no way to fix it
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#1716 [21:56] <garetttodd> i tried to buy minecraft with my master card credit card and visa debit card it would not let me purchase the game and it said use a different card. what dod i do
#1717 [21:57] <garetttodd> can you help me
#1718 [21:57] <matmoeb> seemed to me that minecraft.net is down right now
#1719 [21:57] <garetttodd> yes i tried earlier today
#1720 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> garetttodd: Contact your bank - they may be blocking the international transaction as a form of protection
#1721 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> What response did you get?
#1722 [21:58] <matmoeb> if paypal dont work, i dont know what the problem might be
#1723 [21:58] <garetttodd> if that doesnt work what would you do
#1724 [21:59] <matmoeb> gift card
#1725 [21:59] <garetttodd> where do you get a gift card
#1726 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> garetttodd: I would then follow the payment from my bank through to the payment gateway that Mojang uses, who are Moneybookers. If your bank isn’t allowing the transaction to go through though, there’s no point going further until that issue is resolved
#1727 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> gift cards can’t be used - you can use a prepaid card though - see http://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1728 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> standard generic gift cards are the ones that I mean can’t be used. The one specific to minecraft is all good though
#1729 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - See: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/621-prepaid-minecraft-gift-cards-now-available/
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#1731 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Yes, those are the ones that I linked to just before, at http://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1732 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Ah
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#1739 [22:13] <matmoeb> any ideas when another update is coming out? is that my best hope of getting this thing back online?
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#1741 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Halloween
#1742 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> 24th of Oct, or so I’ve heard
#1743 [22:18] <matmoeb> thnks to those who have tried to help, i guess i will just keep an eye on my thread
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#1750 [22:37] <TheV> .
#1751 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> A fullstop, or a period. What more can be divulged from such information. That an end of things is now at hand?
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#1753 [22:40] <sikicx> Hi I was wondering when I try to play the browser version on my mac, it just goes white. What is this?
#1754 [22:40] <sikicx> And I have the demo version
#1755 [22:41] <sikicx> Hello?
#1756 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> Potentially due to a java issue with your web browser. What do you see when you check your java version at http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#1758 [22:42] <sikicx> Hello Sophia?
#1759 [22:42] <TheV> trouble loading minecraft. Works fine with 32 bit java. Installed 64 bit multiple times. Different file jre and sdk 7/10. reinstalled 3 different versions of nvidia driver. Ran the removal for java "javara" and reinstalled. command window loads to "http://pastebin.com/hHwq3miP" Get's to the login screen , I click login then it goes to a black screen.
#1760 [22:43] <TheV> Any ideas ?\
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#1762 [22:44] <Wug> TheV: off the top of my head, i dont know
#1763 [22:44] <Wug> grab teamviewer and I'll look at it
#1764 [22:44] <Wug> :tv
#1765 [22:44] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1766 [22:44] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1767 [22:44] <TheV> and reinstalled minecraft. no mods . mc 1.3.2
#1768 [22:45] <TheV> uhh no to keen on that
#1769 [22:45] <TheV> who is u ?
#1770 [22:46] <TheV> :)
#1771 [22:46] <TheV> what crafty scripts u got ?
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#1773 [22:46] <Wug> I understand your reluctance but we do this all the time here
#1774 [22:47] <Wug> what os are you using
#1775 [22:47] <sikicx> I downloaded Java but I still cant play the basic version of minecraft. I have a Mac
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#1778 [22:47] <TheV> win 7 64 bit
#1779 [22:47] <TheV> pro
#1780 [22:47] <Wug> sikicx: you mean minecraft classic? classic has been broken on macs for some time.
#1781 [22:47] <Wug> I also don't own a mac :P
#1782 [22:47] <sikicx> Dang it
#1783 [22:47] <sikicx> What about if I buy the game?
#1784 [22:47] <Wug> I think the world of minecraft client might work, give that a shot
#1785 [22:48] <sikicx> Then will it work?
#1786 [22:48] <Wug> the premium version works on macs.
#1787 [22:48] <sikicx> ok sick cuz my parents r gonna look at it
#1788 [22:48] <Wug> TheV: is your OS legit? >.>
#1789 [22:48] <sikicx> Yes
#1790 [22:48] <TheV> yes
#1791 [22:49] <Wug> I've seen some strange unresolvable library issues on cracked versions of windows
#1792 [22:49] <TheV> only does it with the 64 bit java
#1793 [22:49] <sikicx> Does minecraft give macs viruses?
#1794 [22:49] <Wug> sikicx: no, of course it doesnt
#1795 [22:49] <sikicx> ok sweet
#1796 [22:49] <sikicx> cya later thanks for the help
#1797 [22:49] <sikicx> :)
#1798 [22:49] <Wug> TheV: do you have more than one version of java installed
#1799 [22:50] <TheV> does lwjgl mean anything to minecraft
#1800 [22:50] <sikicx> Only Jone i think
#1801 [22:50] <sikicx> one *
#1802 [22:50] <Wug> yes it does
#1803 [22:50] <Wug> lwjgl is one of minecraft's library dependancies
#1804 [22:50] <sikicx> I have Java for Mac OSX
#1805 [22:51] <TheV> I have a new set of files to try i think where do I extract them to ?
#1806 [22:51] <sikicx> bye
#1807 [22:51] <TheV> version 2.8.4
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#1809 [22:51] <Wug> on certain versions of linux there are known issues where the version of lwjgl provided with minecraft does not work, but to the best of my knowledge the problem does not occur on windows
#1810 [22:51] <Wug> :folder
#1811 [22:51] <WugBot> folder: Minecraft folder locations -- Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft -- Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Linux: ~/.minecraft
#1812 [22:52] <TheV> oh hmmm. To bad my video cards are on the windows machine :)
#1813 [22:52] <Wug> inside the minecraft folder there is a subfolder called bin, with a subfolder called natives
#1814 [22:52] <Wug> inside it you will find the lwjgl binaries. Replace them with the files in the updated version
#1815 [22:52] <Wug> you will also need to replace the jars in the bin subfolder
#1816 [22:53] <Wug> You don't need to add any files that are not already there.
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#1818 [22:57] <Night_Owl> My friend friend cannot connect to minecraft, he is using a windows xp. Whenever he launches minecraft it freezes the entire game, and momentarily crashes his computer.
#1819 [22:57] <TheV> hmmm replaced the files still no go
#1820 [22:57] <Night_Owl> stand by, i'm talking to him
#1821 [22:58] <Night_Owl> he thinks it might be the texturepack
#1822 [22:58] <Night_Owl> the screen has gone entirely white for him when he clicked texturepack
#1823 [22:59] <Night_Owl> his game is frozen now
#1824 [22:59] <Night_Owl> is there any information you need about his operating system?
#1825 [23:01] <Night_Owl> we're going to attempt to remove his texture packs to see if that will fix the issue.
#1826 [23:02] <TheV> I'm not the best to answer but yeah and re download the texture pack. Maybe its corrupt
#1827 [23:03] <TheV> the default texture is ok ?
#1828 [23:03] <Night_Owl> it was a custom that i made and gave him. When he tries to lauch, since he doesn't know anything about texturepacks, his game crashes. There were a lot of bugs in that tp... standby we're removign it now
#1829 [23:04] <Night_Owl> do you want me to have them open the jar file to see if the default is ok?
#1830 [23:04] <Night_Owl> i just had them force an update though.
#1831 [23:05] <TheV> sure
#1832 [23:05] <TheV> ?
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#1834 [23:07] <Wug> Night_Owl: ask him to come here
#1835 [23:07] <Night_Owl> ?
#1836 [23:07] * Wug pokes TheV with teamviewe
#1836 [23:08] <Wug> Night_Owl: I don't like troubleshooting by proxy
#1837 [23:08] <Night_Owl> oh ill get him
#1838 [23:08] <Wug> so unless you're sitting at the computer using it, please ask him to join
#1839 [23:09] <Night_Owl> his internet is frozen he's restarting the computer, it'll be a moment since i'm talking ot him via skype
#1840 [23:10] <Night_Owl> on a side note, a question i have, why did the end and nether get reset on 1.3.1?
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#1843 [23:12] <Night_Owl> on a side note, a question i have, why did the end and nether get reset on 1.3.1?
#1844 [23:14] <Night_Owl> by that i mean, all changes to the nether and end were deleted
#1845 [23:14] <Night_Owl> and an entirely new seed for each dimension was created
#1846 [23:16] <Night_Owl> afk?
#1847 [23:17] <Wug> a little. hang on a sec
#1848 [23:17] <Night_Owl> ok
#1849 [23:17] <TheV> http://pastebin.com/S6AMiugp
#1850 [23:20] <Night_Owl> he's attempting to log onto the chat sytems
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