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#2 [00:09] <jimmy> i think part of my update is missing how do i fix that
#3 [00:10] <Scott> you can just do force update
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#5 [00:11] <jimmy> that didnt work
#6 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> What causes you to think that a part of it is missing?
#7 [00:11] <jimmy> i got some new iteams
#8 [00:12] <Scott> Have you used mods?
#9 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> I presume that you mean “items”, but even with that I don’t understand what you mean
#10 [00:12] <jimmy> never
#11 [00:12] <Scott> nor do I.
#12 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> jimmy: Can you please provide us with more detail about the problem that you are experiencing
#13 [00:13] <jimmy> yeah let me type
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#15 [00:14] <jimmy> i got some of the changes like emeralds
#16 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> well done
#17 [00:16] <jimmy> and potions and the new mobs in the neter.
#18 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> So what seems to be the problem?
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#20 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: Run!
#21 [00:17] * Calinou walks
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#22 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> jimmy: You get emeralds, potions and other stuff, so what is the problem that you were mentioning earlier?
#23 [00:18] <jimmy> i checked with my friend and he has the latest up date
#24 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Version 1.3.2 ?
#25 [00:19] <jimmy> yes
#26 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> jimmy: If you don’t say it, we can’t know what you want to tell us
#27 [00:20] <jimmy> you know how minecraft got new items like the item frame andthe new mobs
#28 [00:21] <jimmy> like the wither skeleton and bat
#29 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Those are development versions, for bug testing purposes. They are not release versions of the game
#30 [00:21] <jimmy> i dont have those
#31 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> jimmy: The game doesn’t update to testing/development versions. Only stable offical versions are what the game updates to.
#32 [00:22] <jimmy> face palm my friend must have had a mod o something sorry for the waist of time
#33 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> If you want to use development versions, you can find out about them at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#34 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> We do not support the development versions here though. We just support the offical release of Minecraft in this channel
#35 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Mojang will shortly be releasing version 1.4 of Minecraft for halloween
#36 [00:24] <jimmy> face palm, alright, thanks,my friend must have had a mod o something sorry for the waist of time
#37 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> It is the development versions of Minecraft that are leading up to that 1.4 release that you seem to have been hearing about
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#39 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> jimmy: It’s spelled “waste”. Waist is the area of your body above your hips and below your chest
#40 [00:25] <heyyouthere2012> hello
#41 [00:25] <Calinou> hi
#42 [00:25] <heyyouthere2012> i have a quick question
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#45 [00:26] <heyyouthere2012> i recently purchased the pre. mincraft account andd like 20 minutes into playing in a server i keep freezing. whats going on
#46 [00:27] <Calinou> ??> heyyouthere2012 win/dxdiag
#47 [00:27] <VoxelHead> heyyouthere2012: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#48 [00:27] <VoxelHead> heyyouthere2012: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#49 [00:27] <Calinou> (this assumes you are on windows)
#50 [00:28] <heyyouthere2012> i dont c the win button
#51 [00:33] <Calinou> ??> heyyouthere2012 win/key
#52 [00:34] <VoxelHead> heyyouthere2012: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
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#54 [00:34] <heyyouthere2012> yes im on windows... why do i have to paste my info onto pastebin for??
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#56 [00:35] <file766> hey i purchased minecraft but it wont let me play what do i do
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#58 [00:36] <file766> hey i purchased m incraft and it wont let me play what do i do?
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#60 [00:37] <heyyouthere2012> so why do i have to post it on pastebin.com??
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#62 [00:40] <Deathdemon> Hey i was wondering if anyone knew how to fix the scrolling error for the minecraft server it keeps repeating this at ev.a(SourceFile:38) at ev.b(SourceFile:48) at ev.a(SourceFile:38) at ev.b(SourceFile:48) sorry in advance new to minecraft server `
#63 [00:44] <Deathdemon> Any one as i cant find any responses to peoples post on the web with the same problem?
#64 [00:46] <Wug> pastebin the stack trace please
#65 [00:47] <Wug> well, as much of it as possible
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#68 [00:47] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I am having an issue with my main Survival world
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#70 [00:48] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: describe them
#71 [00:48] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: describe them
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#74 [00:49] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I was getting very deep into a mine, when I realized I should not be gamling with my diamonds, so I went to turn back, and the tunnel I was using was sealed behind me (Yes like the Matrix)
#75 [00:49] <YoureMyBoyBloo> Then everything seemed like it was about to crash, but instead all of the blocks around be filled in, and locked me into place
#76 [00:50] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I could use my pickaxe to mine them out, but they would fill back in instantly
#77 [00:50] <Wug> you're sure you didnt just get lost
#78 [00:50] <Wug> hmm.
#79 [00:50] <Wug> can you get out in any direction
#80 [00:50] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I had no choice, but to quit out
#81 [00:51] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I tried to get back in but I kept being locked into the ground in the exact palce
#82 [00:51] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I restarted my computer
#83 [00:51] <Wug> can you upload the world somewhere
#84 [00:51] <YoureMyBoyBloo> and then I was able to destroy the blocks for a moment (They came back after about 10 seconds but there was a cavern nearby that I was able to get to and save in)
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#86 [00:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> Now when I join the game, I am in the cavern, and I can get up to the ground but only that chunk will load.
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#88 [00:52] <Wug> upload the world somewhere
#89 [00:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> If I go outside the chuck I will fall into nowhere and loose all of my diamonds and cry like a child
#90 [00:52] <Wug> you dont have any mods do you
#91 [00:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> none at all
#92 [00:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I am new to minecraft
#93 [00:53] <YoureMyBoyBloo> do not use textures and do not even play online
#94 [00:53] <Wug> :folder
#95 [00:53] <WugBot> folder: Minecraft folder locations -- Windows: %appdata%\.minecraft -- Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Linux: ~/.minecraft
#96 [00:53] <Wug> the world is in there, in saves
#97 [00:53] <Wug> zip it and upload it
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#103 [00:59] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug I honestly have no clue how to get to the app data folder
#104 [00:59] <YoureMyBoyBloo> What is the defaul location in windows 7?
#105 [00:59] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: copy the name and paste it into the address bad
#106 [00:59] <Wug> bar*
#107 [01:00] <Wug> it will work magically.
#108 [01:00] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I swear it did not work the first three times i did it, and now I look like an idiot
#109 [01:00] <Wug> also make sure minecraft is closed when you zip it6
#110 [01:01] <techno156> Wug, what about run:%appdata%
#111 [01:01] <Wug> that will probably work too, but hes got it now
#112 [01:02] <techno156> okay
#113 [01:02] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug
#114 [01:02] <techno156> My school's internet is fried :P
#115 [01:02] <YoureMyBoyBloo> Is a dropbox link sufficient?
#116 [01:02] <Wug> thatll do fine, but please zip it
#117 [01:03] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug, np, it will take a 2 minutes to upload and the link will come shortly
#118 [01:03] <techno156> What does YoureMyBoyBloo want to do with his MC
#119 [01:04] <YoureMyBoyBloo> not lose the diamonds I spent 3 hours getting
#120 [01:04] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: once i've confirmed the behavior you can move yourself back to the surface with mcedit
#121 [01:04] <Wug> but I'd very much like to see this
#122 [01:05] <techno156> what happened to it?
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#124 [01:05] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: share it with techno156 as well if you dont mind
#125 [01:05] <Wug> techno156: its borked.
#126 [01:06] <Wug> we dont know why but it decided to trap him underground
#127 [01:06] <techno156> borked?
#128 [01:06] <techno156> oh
#129 [01:06] <techno156> he could gert MCedit, or a world editor
#130 [01:06] <Wug> via unclearable blocks and failing to load the map
#131 [01:06] <techno156> and place the 'player' someplace else
#132 [01:07] <Wug> im going to have him do that once ive reproduced it
#133 [01:07] <techno156> ok
#134 [01:07] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kwkw4twk103vxdf/Problem%20World.zip
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#136 [01:07] <techno156> YoureMyBoyBloo, in .minecraft, copy the 'saves' folder elsewhere
#137 [01:07] <techno156> COpy, mind you
#138 [01:08] <Wug> techno156: I got this
#139 [01:08] <techno156> ok
#140 [01:08] <techno156> :)
#141 [01:08] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug, let me know when you have it so I can DA the link. techno156, if you want it too let me know you are grabbing it so I dont cut you of
#142 [01:09] <Wug> ive already got it
#143 [01:09] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I don't want to be self important, but this one seems like a doozy
#144 [01:09] <techno156> it certainly sounds interesting..
#145 [01:10] <YoureMyBoyBloo> The zip I made seems to not be including the most recent save, but neither is the most current version I have
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#147 [01:10] <Wug> I forgot that I sabotaged minecraft the other day
#148 [01:10] <YoureMyBoyBloo> and I have already seen it showing the save taking once before
#149 [01:10] <techno156> BAck Up, Wug, why did you sabotage minecraft in the first place?
#150 [01:11] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 is it cool if I kill the link?
#151 [01:11] <techno156> Yep, Wug's managing this :)
#152 [01:11] <techno156> I'll just assist
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#154 [01:12] <YoureMyBoyBloo> alright, but this is your chance to get in on the floor of minecraft AIDS
#155 [01:12] <Wug> simple, I needed it to crash
#156 [01:12] <YoureMyBoyBloo> ^ground floor
#157 [01:12] <techno156> Okay, I'll download
#158 [01:12] <techno156> Have you killed it yet?
#159 [01:12] <Wug> it doesnt even load for me
#160 [01:12] <Wug> but I know whats wrong
#161 [01:13] <Wug> its a weird variant of an old bug
#162 [01:13] <Wug> theres a corrupt chunk somewhere
#163 [01:13] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 link is still live
#164 [01:13] <Wug> its probably the one you were in
#165 [01:13] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug I think if you give it a minute it will pop up
#166 [01:13] <techno156> Yep, just added to my own Dropbox
#167 [01:14] <YoureMyBoyBloo> but you will be completely encased in stone
#168 [01:14] <techno156> I'll have a look and later
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#171 [01:14] <techno156> With the stone, just dig out
#172 [01:14] <Wug> yeah, it will load eventually
#173 [01:14] <techno156> especially easy with the latest version ;)
#174 [01:14] <Wug> but theres no need to wait, the problem is obvious now
#175 [01:15] <Wug> somewhere, somehow, theres 35000 skeletons jammed into one place
#176 [01:15] <techno156> set difficulty to 'peaceful'
#177 [01:15] <techno156> should clear mobs, as you well know
#178 [01:15] <Wug> since its skeletons, that might fix it
#179 [01:16] <Wug> and it wont fix the chunk
#180 [01:17] <Wug> however, the skeletons are at x=-379.30, y=12.00, z=864.30
#181 [01:17] <techno156> That's waaay up
#182 [01:17] <techno156> ..
#183 [01:17] <Wug> way down. y=12
#184 [01:17] <techno156> ok
#185 [01:17] <techno156> so what's the 'z' coordiante
#186 [01:17] <Wug> theyre almost certainly in the broken chunk, if you were to zap it out of the map with mcedit it would regenerate itself and the map would be fixed
#187 [01:18] <Wug> :mcedit
#188 [01:18] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.
#189 [01:18] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit's download page is here: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#190 [01:18] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: ^
#191 [01:18] <techno156> You certainly lovve your Bot, Wug ^_^
#192 [01:18] <Wug> I'm lazy and its not
#193 [01:19] <techno156> then why is it named 'WugBot'
#194 [01:19] <Wug> because I took my name and put "Bot" on the end
#195 [01:19] <Wug> signifies both purpose and ownership
#196 [01:19] <Wug> lately I've been entertaining the notion of renaming it.
#197 [01:19] <techno156> oh
#198 [01:19] <techno156> to what?
#199 [01:19] <Wug> idk
#200 [01:20] <techno156> What does WugBot do?
#201 [01:20] <Wug> everything
#202 [01:20] <techno156> There's a good starter to think about
#203 [01:20] <techno156> :)
#204 [01:21] <Wug> not sure if YoureMyBoyBloo is still there
#205 [01:22] <techno156> YoureMyBoyBloo, hello?
#206 [01:22] <Wug> maybe he died.
#207 [01:22] <Wug> well I need to go to ned
#208 [01:22] <Wug> bed*
#209 [01:23] <itzmjauz> Blood and organs everwhere?
#210 [01:23] <Wug> hopefully not
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#212 [01:23] <itzmjauz> aww, I'll re-check later.
#213 [01:24] <remusg> are the login servers down atm?
#214 [01:24] <Calinou> !login
#215 [01:24] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug . still here, just stepped away
#216 [01:24] <YoureMyBoyBloo> It seems the link from your bot is now dead though
#217 [01:25] <remusg> but is anybody able to join a server?
#218 [01:25] <Wug> so it is
#219 [01:26] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug what do i do with this new zip?
#220 [01:26] <techno156> extract it
#221 [01:26] <techno156> I assume
#222 [01:26] <Wug> ;! mcedit MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.;;MCEdit's download page is here: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#223 [01:26] <Wug> ;~ mcedit MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.;;MCEdit's download page is here: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#224 [01:26] <Wug> herp
#225 [01:26] <Wug> YoureMyBoyBloo: get mcedit from there
#226 [01:27] <Wug> if you have 64 bit windows get the win-amd64 one
#227 [01:27] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 for this first time, I get to say I already knew that, let's move to the next step
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#229 [01:27] <techno156> What's in the ZIp?
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#231 [01:27] <Wug> open the world, find the area with the skeletons, and delete it
#232 [01:28] <Wug> first open the world
#233 [01:28] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug done and done, it is now unzipped
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#235 [01:28] <Wug> you opened it in mcedit?
#236 [01:28] <Wug> mmk, hit zero
#237 [01:28] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 a dll, mcedit, and a directory with assets
#238 [01:28] <Wug> that will show the coords of the block youre pointing at
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#240 [01:29] <Wug> point straight down and search for x=-379.30, z=864.30
#241 [01:29] <Wug> y is irrelevant
#242 [01:29] <Wug> it doesnt have to be exact, just make it fairly close
#243 [01:29] <Wug> its been a while since I've used mcedit
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#245 [01:30] <Wug> I dont actually have it either, I'm working on autopilot here
#246 [01:30] <Wug> once youve found that location, select one block
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#248 [01:30] <Wug> hit 9 (I think) for chunk tools and delete the chunk
#249 [01:31] <Wug> save world, close mcedit, move world to saves folder (being careful not to overwrite the one thats there) and test it
#250 [01:32] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug I honestly am struggling to follow this
#251 [01:32] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I am in MCEdit
#252 [01:33] <Wug> one step at a time
#253 [01:33] <YoureMyBoyBloo> What I do now?
#254 [01:33] <Wug> have you found the location yet
#255 [01:33] <techno156> have you done the chunk thingy?
#256 [01:34] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I opened MCEdit, how do I find a location? I am looking at a top down pixel map
#257 [01:34] <Wug> hit zero
#258 [01:35] <Wug> follow the directions from there
#259 [01:38] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug I am having issues with the directions
#260 [01:39] <Wug> have you hit zero
#261 [01:39] <YoureMyBoyBloo> What does "point striaght down mean"
#262 [01:39] <Wug> look at the ground
#263 [01:39] <Wug> stright down
#264 [01:39] <Wug> like the directions say.
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#269 [01:42] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug how to save?
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#271 [01:43] <techno156> CTRL+S
#272 [01:43] <techno156> Normally
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#274 [01:45] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug techno156 it seems to not have done anything
#275 [01:45] <techno156> What happens when you press CTRL?
#276 [01:46] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 , do you mena in MCEdit?
#277 [01:46] <techno156> yep
#278 [01:47] <YoureMyBoyBloo> techno156 it brings up the contextual menu and I chose "Save"
#279 [01:47] <techno156> did it work?
#280 [01:47] <YoureMyBoyBloo> hell no
#281 [01:47] <techno156> You mean the menu disappeared?
#282 [01:47] <techno156> After Clicking Save?
#283 [01:48] <YoureMyBoyBloo> after clcking save
#284 [01:49] <techno156> Okay, close mcedit, and try to open the world in minecraft
#285 [01:50] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I take it back, it is letting me edit things now
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#287 [01:50] <YoureMyBoyBloo> but everything is completely fd up
#288 [01:51] <YoureMyBoyBloo> my inventory seems wrong and it looks like my chuck is completely brand new
#289 [01:51] <techno156> MC reloaded the chunk
#290 [01:51] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I am going to be pissed if my massive minecart system is trashed
#291 [01:51] <techno156> so it may look completely different
#292 [01:51] <techno156> I would liek a copy of your (working) world
#293 [01:51] <techno156> :)
#294 [01:51] <techno156> SOunds fun to explore
#295 [01:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> dammit, well I seem to have 64 less diamonds than I should, sut I guess some is better than none
#296 [01:52] <YoureMyBoyBloo> thanks for the help
#297 [01:52] <techno156> np
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#299 [01:53] <techno156> Wug, I just got a pre-made bot, how do I go about editing?
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#308 [02:10] <YoureMyBoyBloo> @Wug that ended up not working at all
#309 [02:10] <YoureMyBoyBloo> I was able to reload the chunk, but none of the other chunks would load leaving me stranded
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#311 [02:12] <bongoboy99> Hey guys
#312 [02:15] <bongoboy99> well I've got a minecraft classic server and now I'm port forwarding for my SMP server. Lord_Ralex already helped me port forward properly for my minecraft classic server through firewall rules by setting the ports up and the external ip (router ip) through inbound/outbound traffic. Now for my smp server, it's showing the default minecraft port (25565) but i need to change that too 25566 somehow, so it doesn't collid
#313 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Go into server.properties. Change the port argument to 25566
#314 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Launch your server. It'll now listen on port 25566
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#316 [02:17] <bongoboy99> thanks, it worked
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#321 [02:26] <remusg> !login
#322 [02:26] <remusg> yeah but can you join a server?
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#324 [02:27] <techno156> just wondering, will I be sent a hard copy of my reciept when I buy MC, because I'm buying it in secret
#325 [02:28] <Calinou> is this an attempt to make people laugh?
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#327 [02:28] <Calinou> hard copy... no, the game is only sent through digital distribution
#328 [02:28] <techno156> nop
#329 [02:28] <Calinou> you get an email too
#330 [02:28] <techno156> Phew
#331 [02:29] <Calinou> nothing physical
#332 [02:29] <techno156> I was worried my parents would find the hard coopy of the reciept
#333 [02:29] <techno156> and I would be toast
#334 [02:29] <remusg> but im not able to join a server
#335 [02:29] <Calinou> we all know you like your parents' credit card
#336 [02:29] <Calinou> 8)
#337 [02:29] <Calinou> remusg: try another server then
#338 [02:29] <techno156> Not theirs, Prepaid visa
#339 [02:29] <techno156> :)
#340 [02:29] <Calinou> since when you can buy minecraft with prepaid cards?
#341 [02:30] <remusg> i already tried an other server
#342 [02:30] <techno156> Using Paypal
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#344 [02:31] <remusg> my mc isnt able to reach the server
#345 [02:33] <remusg> anyone else having trouble joining servers?
#346 [02:33] <techno156> which one?
#347 [02:35] <remusg> my friends server
#348 [02:35] <remusg> its not public
#349 [02:36] <remusg> but whats the mojang help link
#350 [02:36] <remusg> ?
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#356 [02:52] <remusg> !login
#357 [02:52] <remusg> your a bot AuBot
#358 [02:55] <techno156> !haspaid techno156
#359 [02:56] <techno156> ...
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#361 [02:56] <techno156> !paid techno156
#362 [02:57] <tryy3> how many people can i host on the specs from http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/superplan_mini.xml (thinking mostly with that cpu and bandwith!)
#363 [02:57] <AG_Clinton> No one can give you an accurate answer on that.
#364 [02:58] <techno156> how to check if I have paid?
#365 [02:58] <techno156> i think I forgot...
#366 [02:58] <tryy3> i know none can give me an accurate but an 'around' number
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#370 [03:00] <techno156> maxiumum or without lag?
#371 [03:00] <tryy3> without lag
#372 [03:00] <AG_Clinton> I'd say 45.
#373 [03:00] <tryy3> even though its 16gb ram?
#374 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> RAM isn
#375 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> Isn't a bottleneck.
#376 [03:01] <AG_Clinton> CPU is.
#377 [03:01] <tryy3> oh...
#378 [03:01] <techno156> Probably a quad-core is a good option
#379 [03:02] <tryy3> but minecraft dont run on multi-thread
#380 [03:02] <tryy3> so more cores wont help
#381 [03:02] <AG_Clinton> Actually they can to an extent.
#382 [03:03] <itzmjauz> AG_Clinton: True that.
#383 [03:03] <tryy3> isn't just the core speed?
#384 [03:03] <techno156> They share the load
#385 [03:03] <techno156> So it can (sorta) go a bit faster
#386 [03:03] <tryy3> oh
#387 [03:03] <AG_Clinton> Minecraft is mostly single threaded, but other cores do get a fair amount of usage.
#388 [03:03] <AG_Clinton> I would go for an E3
#389 [03:04] <AG_Clinton> Or an i7
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#391 [03:05] <tryy3> AG_Clinton k, but that dedi was so cheap and i cant afford much higher then that :P
#392 [03:05] <AG_Clinton> Then why are you getting a dedicated server?
#393 [03:06] <tryy3> AG_Clinton idk its cheaper at some hosting companies
#394 [03:07] <AG_Clinton> How good are you with linuc?
#395 [03:07] <AG_Clinton> Linux*
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#397 [03:08] <tryy3> not very well, but iam willing to learn and i was going to have linux and not windows :D
#398 [03:08] <techno156> Which distro?
#399 [03:08] <AG_Clinton> Ok I'd advise against getting that server then. Get a cheap VPS to learn linux first. Learn how to secure it.
#400 [03:09] <AG_Clinton> For minecraft try contacting Eoin @ Clanslot. Tell him Clinton sent you and maybe he can make you a good deal.
#401 [03:09] <AG_Clinton> For European hosting he's my pick.
#402 [03:10] <tryy3> techno156 not sure yet but possibly debian as i been using ubuntu before ^_^ but not much
#403 [03:10] <techno156> cool
#404 [03:10] <techno156> I have Ubuntu 12.04 on my otehr computer ^_^
#405 [03:10] <tryy3> AG_Clinton iam setting up a debian on my desktop but i failed at installation so atm its getting installed the hard way :P
#406 [03:10] <tryy3> AG_Clinton and k i will check them out thanks :D
#407 [03:10] <AG_Clinton> You're welcome.
#408 [03:11] <AG_Clinton> If you need help with Debian/Ubuntu let me know.
#409 [03:11] <tryy3> techno156 ^_^ debian = ubuntu, just ubuntu got bunch of crap in it ^_^
#410 [03:11] <techno156> :D
#411 [03:11] <tryy3> AG_Clinton k :P
#412 [03:11] <tryy3> the crap is just there for makeing new people easier to get around :P
#413 [03:11] <AG_Clinton> Ubuntu is based on Debian.
#414 [03:12] <AG_Clinton> Ubuntu just uses newer releases on packages while Debian stays on older stable packages.
#415 [03:12] <tryy3> ye ofc there is changes but its not any big changes except bunch of crap :D
#416 [03:12] <AG_Clinton> I'd suggest Ubuntu for most uses.
#417 [03:12] <AG_Clinton> Ubuntu only comes with crap if you want it to.
#418 [03:12] <Calinou> lubuntu > ubuntu
#419 [03:12] <Calinou> less crap, but uses ubuntu repos
#420 [03:12] <Calinou> still easy to use
#421 [03:12] <tryy3> AG_Clinton true :D
#422 [03:12] <Calinou> debian yells whenever you need proprietary stuff (eg. firmware); not a good choice
#423 [03:13] <Calinou> and is available in three flavours only: rusty, stale and broken
#424 [03:13] <AG_Clinton> Calinou: Don't even get us started on all the Ubuntu derivatives.
#425 [03:13] <tryy3> oh well iam already installing debian on my desktop so i probly gonna go with debian :P
#426 [03:13] <AG_Clinton> Your choice...
#427 [03:14] <Calinou> have fun dealing with firmware & drivers :P
#428 [03:14] <tryy3> ^_^
#429 [03:14] <tryy3> i failed on installing it on my desktop already so iam installing it the hardway
#430 [03:14] <tryy3> try get anything done with out any internet drivers...
#431 [03:15] <tryy3> and not able to connect it with cable to the router :P
#432 [03:15] <Calinou> ethernet didn't even work for me last time I tried
#433 [03:15] <Calinou> *buntus just work because you have the firmware
#434 [03:15] <Calinou> mint is terrible, btw. :P
#435 [03:16] <tryy3> ^_^
#436 [03:17] <Calinou> "<AG_Clinton> Ok I'd advise against getting that server then. Get a cheap VPS to learn linux first. Learn how to secure it."
#437 [03:17] <Calinou> run SSH on custom port
#438 [03:17] <Calinou> problem solved
#439 [03:18] <AG_Clinton> You can't seriously believe that?
#440 [03:18] <Calinou> I do; it reduces attacks by 80%
#441 [03:18] <Calinou> remember: bots are idiot...
#442 [03:18] <AG_Clinton> I'm not just talking about bots.
#443 [03:19] <AG_Clinton> The server stills needs to be secured.
#444 [03:19] <AG_Clinton> Not through obscurity.
#445 [03:19] <AG_Clinton> A simple portscan would reveal the SSH port.
#446 [03:19] <Calinou> why is that obscurity?
#447 [03:19] <tryy3> i just relised it was £ i cant afford that server now ;(
#448 [03:19] <Calinou> noone portscans today
#449 [03:19] <AG_Clinton> I beg to differ.
#450 [03:19] <Calinou> people ddos
#451 [03:19] <Calinou> and you can't do anything about ddos, except hosts.deny
#452 [03:20] <AG_Clinton> hosts.deny won't do anything against a ddos.
#453 [03:20] <Calinou> anyway, if you run a mc server, you should feel bad
#454 [03:20] <Calinou> MC always had a terrible community :P
#455 [03:21] <tryy3> you can ddos those who ddos you ^_^
#456 [03:21] <AG_Clinton> tryy3: No.
#457 [03:21] <AG_Clinton> I don't think you understand what a ddos entails if you believe that either.
#458 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> The first d is for distributed, so unless you can distribute yourself in to 100,000 different places, it would be hard
#459 [03:22] <tryy3> well its 1 way of doing it ^_^ but it will require alot of computers but still...
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#461 [03:24] <AG_Clinton> You're telling me you'd distribute yourself across thousands of home computers/servers trying to attack the attacker when he's not even the one actually hitting you himself?
#462 [03:24] <tryy3> AG_Clinton ehum... ye :P
#463 [03:24] <techno156> you can usually kick the attacker
#464 [03:25] <AG_Clinton> What are you going to do send a single packet to each compromised host?
#465 [03:25] <AG_Clinton> techno156: What?
#466 [03:25] <techno156> depends
#467 [03:25] <techno156> on how
#468 [03:26] <techno156> if it's a game server
#469 [03:26] <Neon> Hello. I want to play a very old SMP map and I read and already experienced earlier that the Minecraft server converts such maps automatically, but for this one it doesn't. It just starts normally and seems to generate a map (my spawn is somewhere over the ocean). MCEdit crashes on trying to load the map. Any suggestions what I could do? Do you thing the Snapshot versions do not support converting?
#470 [03:26] <techno156> kick command is abailable
#471 [03:26] <tryy3> AG_Clinton you can get several servers worldwide so when someone ddos 1 of your server you ddos back with all of your servers?
#472 [03:26] <AG_Clinton> tryy3: It doesn't work that way.
#473 [03:26] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft 1.1 seems to be the best version to use for converting from older versions to ones that the recent versions can use
#474 [03:27] <Neon> DiskDaemon: Okay, I think I'm going to try that.
#475 [03:27] <DiskDaemon> tryy3: The way that ddos works is that 10 people are beating you up at the same time, but it’s thousands of computers instead.
#476 [03:28] <tryy3> AG_Clinton i was just giving ideas how it could work to prevent, but iam not fully 100% experinced with ddos as i never done any ddos and never got any ddos so i cant give fully answers ^_^
#477 [03:28] <techno156> same here
#478 [03:28] <AG_Clinton> I know that. Haha.
#479 [03:28] <techno156> My school network may have been fried starting off that way
#480 [03:29] <tryy3> lol
#481 [03:30] <techno156> It now refuses all connections
#482 [03:30] <techno156> and before that, all internet access was denied
#483 [03:30] <techno156> :P
#484 [03:30] <techno156> So no IRC :(
#485 [03:30] <tryy3> :(
#486 [03:31] <Neon> Deadlinks in the MCNostalgia thread and I don't know whether I have it on the hdd somewhere...
#487 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> Neon: What’s the url for the mcnostalgia thread that you’re looking at? You may be looking at the wrong one
#488 [03:32] <AG_Clinton> http://www.games-utilities.com/mcnostalgia-2-1-2-download-for-minecraft-1-3-2/
#489 [03:32] <Calinou> no 1.1 jar on assets.minecraft.net :|
#490 [03:32] <Calinou> AG_Clinton: unofficial link, likely virus
#491 [03:32] <Calinou> you should always get stuff from the official source. ALWAYS
#492 [03:32] <Neon> Was the first one Google gave me http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/, but I just saw there seems to be another one with a newer version :S
#493 [03:32] <DiskDaemon> Neon: That newer one is the one that you’re after
#494 [03:33] <AG_Clinton> How would you automatically assume that's a virus?
#495 [03:33] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-132/
#496 [03:33] <Calinou> this one?
#497 [03:33] <Calinou> AG_Clinton: because it probably is
#498 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> It doesn’t come from a trusted source, so veracity is automatically at risk
#499 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: Yes, that’s the good one
#500 [03:34] <AG_Clinton> And you were telling me you could secure you server by changing the SSH port. Sheesh.
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#502 [03:34] <Calinou> it does, remember what I said :P gtg anyway
#503 [03:34] <AG_Clinton> Just checked the files. Exactly the same.
#504 [03:35] <DiskDaemon> AG_Clinton: That doesn’t change the fact that known trusted sources should always be used before others
#505 [03:35] <AG_Clinton> I've never had an issue with game-utilities.
#506 [03:36] <AG_Clinton> Oh well.
#507 [03:36] <tryy3> AG_Clinton mc servers are expensive if i find a cheap dedi server i probly gonna buy that instead :P so i wont take clanslot
#508 [03:36] <AG_Clinton> Have fun.
#509 [03:36] <tryy3> ^_¨
#510 [03:36] <tryy3> ^_^*
#511 [03:37] <DiskDaemon> AG_Clinton: It’s not just a matter of that either - there are sources that are preferred because they mesh in more easily with Mojang’s terms of service
#512 [03:38] <tryy3> AG_Clinton hmm... i maybe buy a tf2 server from them, that was cheap :D
#513 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> And, we like to remain on the good side of Mojang too. It’s not that it has its benefits, but is more a matter of respect.
#514 [03:39] <DiskDaemon> So there are a wide variety of reasons for continuing to do things the way that we currently do them here in this channel
#515 [03:39] <AG_Clinton> I was just trying to help. I'm sorry and I won't do it again.
#516 [03:40] <Neon> DiskDaemon: Minecraft 1.1 tries to convert it now. :D Thanks.
#517 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> These are things that are picked up over the course of time
#518 [03:40] <Neon> But why did they remove that feature? Accident?
#519 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> you’re welcome :)
#520 [03:41] <tryy3> AG_Clinton where could i contact eoin?
#521 [03:41] <DiskDaemon> Simplicity I suspect, so that they wouldn’t need to carry multiple various formats around in the code
#522 [03:41] <DiskDaemon> Or, perhaps just a lack of foresight :)
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#525 [03:44] <tryy3> AG_Clinton where could i contact eoin?
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#535 [04:01] <Escherial> hey, i've been having issues with minecraft freezing every 30 seconds to a minute every few minutes or so
#536 [04:01] <Escherial> i'm kind of considering partitioning my disk and installing some small operating system that'd run minecraft in order to test if it's a software issue
#537 [04:02] <Escherial> anyone happen to know of a good candidate for that? i'm thinking some small linux distro
#538 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Escherial: What does the F3 debug screen show on the pie chart is growing in size when that freezing occurs?
#539 [04:02] <Escherial> let me test, one moment
#540 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> On many machines Minecraft can be run from Safe Mode, which helps to diagnose certain performance issues
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#544 [04:08] <Artanis215> Hey can anyone help me with installing eclipse?
#545 [04:09] <Escherial> Artanis215: sure, what's the problem?
#546 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse/Installation
#547 [04:13] <Artanis215> Okay i have followed the instructions on that exact wiki and when i open eclipse it opens a window that says a java runtime environment (jre) or java development kit (JDK) must be available in order to run eclipse. no java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations C:]
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#549 [04:14] <Artanis215> \users\my name\eclipse-jee-juno-SR1-win32-x86_64\eclipse\jre\bin\javaw.exe
#550 [04:14] <Artanis215> javaw.exe in your current path
#551 [04:15] <Artanis215> im lost...
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#553 [04:16] <Escherial> try opening a command prompt and seeing if you can run javaw.exe from there
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#555 [04:16] <Escherial> if nothing happens (e.g. it just returns you to a regular prompt without any errors), it's at least on your path
#556 [04:17] <Escherial> also, the path it's searching looks suspicously not like the one i'd expect to have a JRE/JDK on it...have you installed a JDK already?
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#559 [04:18] <remusg> are the current issues with login.minecraft.net fixed yet?
#560 [04:18] <remusg> !login
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#562 [04:19] <Artanis215> yeah
#563 [04:19] <Artanis215> i did
#564 [04:19] <remusg> ?
#565 [04:20] <Artanis215> when i open it brings up a window
#566 [04:20] <Artanis215> give me that and nothing else
#567 [04:20] <Escherial> this is when you run javaw.exe?
#568 [04:20] <Escherial> or when you run eclipse?
#569 [04:21] <Artanis215> eclipse
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#571 [04:21] <Artanis215> the purple dot
#572 [04:22] <Escherial> ok, let's verify where your system thinks java's installed; check if there's an item called "Java" in your control panel folder and open it if so
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#574 [04:22] <Escherial> right, i'm familiar with eclipse :)
#575 [04:22] <remusg> does the login work cause im not able to join a server that i know is 24/7
#576 [04:23] <Escherial> it's working for me, remusg
#577 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Which server would that be remusg?
#578 [04:23] <remusg> ecuvaro's server (mc 1.2.5)
#579 [04:23] <remusg> ip 654156.servegame.com
#580 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> !check 654156.servegame.com
#581 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> well it certainly seems to not be up right now
#582 [04:24] <Artanis215> okay one minute im playing a game so i can be fully concentrated
#583 [04:24] <Artanis215> would you mind if i pm you?
#584 [04:25] <remusg> strange
#585 [04:25] <Escherial> Artanis215: i think i'm going to go to bed soon, but if you want to get it figured out quickly, sure, go ahead and PM me
#586 [04:25] <remusg> !check 654156.servegame.com
#587 [04:25] <Escherial> for what it's worth, that server's responding to pings, but yeah, port 25565 looks like it's awol to me, too
#588 [04:25] <remusg> yeah im sure
#589 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> !check s.nerd.nu
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#593 [04:40] <bongoboy99_> hey guys
#594 [04:41] <remusg> hey
#595 [04:41] <bongoboy99_> How do I make my minecraft smp server, cracked?
#596 [04:41] <Eplemosen> I don't think we're allowed to talk about that here
#597 [04:41] <techno156> you're not
#598 [04:42] <techno156> this is official
#599 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> bongoboy99: We only deal with legal methods around here
#600 [04:42] <remusg> !check 654156.servegame.com
#601 [04:42] <bongoboy99_> ok, so where can i ask about this?
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#603 [04:43] <bongoboy99_> and how is this illegal? i really just want my friend who has cracked to get on as well as premium people
#604 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> bongoboy99: Sorry, no idea
#605 [04:43] <bongoboy99_> where can i ask?
#606 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> bongoboy99: Not here thanks
#607 [04:43] <bongoboy99_> i know that
#608 [04:44] <bongoboy99_> but what irc channel can i ask on? if anyone knows
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#610 [04:44] <bongoboy99_> i was just asking
#611 [04:44] <techno156> I just bought official ^_^
#612 [04:44] <bongoboy99_> please don't kick me
#613 [04:44] <bongoboy99_> bought official?
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#615 [04:45] <techno156> bought
#616 [04:45] <bongoboy99_> what do you mean?
#617 [04:45] <techno156> now I can play server ^_^
#618 [04:45] <bongoboy99_> my one? cool
#619 [04:45] <techno156> any one
#620 [04:45] <bongoboy99_> true
#621 [04:45] <techno156> ^_^
#622 [04:45] <techno156> No more demo!
#623 [04:45] <bongoboy99_> Go to smp irc channel and i'll advertise it for you
#624 [04:46] <bongoboy99_> just advertised it
#625 [04:47] <bongoboy99_> can you go over to #smp to see the ip and stuff so you can get on
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#627 [04:53] <Ich> hi can anyone help me?
#628 [04:53] <techno156> yep
#629 [04:53] <remusg> with what?
#630 [04:54] <Ich> i want to know if i can delet my old account oreif i can change my name
#631 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Sorry no, that can’t be done
#632 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> If you want a different username, you need to choose a username that you want when paying for it
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#635 [05:01] <Ich> thanks
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#638 [05:04] <remusg> whats the mojang help link?
#639 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> help.mojang.com
#640 [05:04] <remusg> ty
#641 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> It’s also the Help link at the top of the minecraft.net web site
#642 [05:05] <remusg> it says that the smp service is good but in this topic it says that there are some login issues
#643 [05:05] <remusg> so...
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#649 [05:15] <remusg> the mojang help says the smp service is fine but the post says there are issues with the login
#650 [05:15] <remusg> so...
#651 [05:15] <remusg> !check 654156.servegame.com
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#654 [05:25] <mafen> Are some of you familiar with the mod Essentialcraft
#655 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> Nope - we deal with unmodded Minecraft here
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#661 [05:35] <bongoboy99> sorry my internet froze that's why i disconnected
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#663 [05:36] <bongoboy99> but yeah, you there techno?
#664 [05:36] <techno156> yep
#665 [05:36] <bongoboy99> did you see what i said?
#666 [05:36] <techno156> yep
#667 [05:36] <techno156> Zimsky said 'same'
#668 [05:36] <Zimsky> what
#669 [05:36] <bongoboy99> cool, what now?
#670 [05:38] <techno156> bongoboy99, smp
#671 [05:39] <techno156> we get invalid package errors
#672 [05:39] <bongoboy99> you did?
#673 [05:39] <techno156> when we connect to your server
#674 [05:39] <bongoboy99> oh
#675 [05:39] <bongoboy99> maybe i have to put the ip into the server.properties folder for my server
#676 [05:39] <bongoboy99> besides the vids on youtube should say how to make a smp server too
#677 [05:39] <techno156> ask someone else here
#678 [05:40] <techno156> ??>bongoboy99 smp
#679 [05:40] <bongoboy99> I think you may be wrong about me not being able to use the router ip though
#680 [05:40] <techno156> ??< smp
#681 [05:40] <bongoboy99> what?
#682 [05:40] <bongoboy99> It is smp- it's premium
#683 [05:40] <techno156> I'm not wrong
#684 [05:40] <bongoboy99> just need to get it to work
#685 [05:41] <techno156> Your sever might have a bug of some sort
#686 [05:41] <bongoboy99> how come it worked for my classic server then?
#687 [05:41] <bongoboy99> that's just weird
#688 [05:41] <bongoboy99> yet it doesn't work for this and i don't think it has a bug since it would say if it did
#689 [05:42] <techno156> not necessarily
#690 [05:42] <techno156> ??< servers
#691 [05:42] <remusg> just found mc emeral
#692 [05:42] <remusg> d
#693 [05:43] <bongoboy99> what is mc emeral?
#694 [05:43] <Zen> Invalid packet will be when the client recieves a packet that it does not know how to deal with.
#695 [05:44] <bongoboy99> can you try reconnecting when i put the ip in server.properties
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#697 [05:44] <bongoboy99> anyone?
#698 [05:44] <Zen> Doing that will prevent people from connecting, bas alas i must also leave,
#699 [05:45] <bongoboy99> damn, so doing it under server properties won't work?
#700 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> putting an ip into server.properties doesn't do what you think it does.
#701 [05:47] <bongoboy99> damn
#702 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> if you do so, your computer will attempt to bind to that ip, only letting connections from that ip join your server
#703 [05:47] <remusg> emerald
#704 [05:48] <remusg> just found 7 diamonds
#705 [05:48] <bongoboy99> what will i do to get my server working then?
#706 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> what error are you getting?
#707 [05:48] <remusg> another emreald
#708 [05:50] <bongoboy99> well nothing that it says in the server software, but techno says I need a different ip other then my router ip for people outside my local area connection to join
#709 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> that's right...
#710 [05:50] <bongoboy99> which is weird, since my minecraft classic server works by my router ip
#711 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> what is your router io?
#712 [05:51] <Calinou> remusg: who cares?
#713 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> ip?
#714 [05:51] <bongoboy99> so hosting a classic and smp server is different? because you can use the router ip for the classic one but not for smp
#715 [05:51] <bongoboy99> my router ip is, 192.168.0.2
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#717 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> that ip can only be reachex by people inside your LAN
#718 [05:52] <bongoboy99> ok
#719 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#720 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> that'll give you your public ip.
#721 [05:52] <bongoboy99> yeah techno gave me a link which gave me my public ip
#722 [05:53] <bongoboy99> yeah, so then i just go to firewall rules and put my public ip?
#723 [05:53] <bongoboy99> then it should work?
#724 [05:53] <bongoboy99> and when i do that, can you test connecting to my server, please?
#725 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> if you port forward correctly, people will be able to cinnect feom outside
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#727 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> we actually have a bot thatcan test that for you here
#728 [05:53] <bongoboy99> yeah well i used my router ip and it worked for my classic server
#729 [05:53] <bongoboy99> but apparently smp is different
#730 [05:54] <bongoboy99> so I'll forward this public ip for my smp and then yeah
#731 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> it really isn'bt
#732 [05:54] <bongoboy99> what isn't? how come it worked for my classic then?
#733 [05:54] <bongoboy99> and router ip doesn't work for smp though
#734 [05:54] <bongoboy99> it's weird
#735 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> You could connect to your classic server, but people outside your house most likely couldn't, yes?
#736 [05:55] <bongoboy99> I port forward it through firewall rules in nbound/outbound traffic like i'm supposed too to
#737 [05:55] <bongoboy99> nah people outside my classic server can connect
#738 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> I very much doubt that.
#739 [05:55] <bongoboy99> anyone can connect to my classic server
#740 [05:55] <remusg> now there are issues
#741 [05:55] <bongoboy99> no joke
#742 [05:55] <bongoboy99> It works
#743 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> It goes against everything I've learned in networking. 192.168.x.y is a private internal ip address which cannot be accessible from the outside network
#744 [05:56] <bongoboy99> i used my router ip for it and lord_ralex helped me set it up through firewall rules in inbound/outbound traffic
#745 [05:56] <bongoboy99> well that's weird, even test my classic server
#746 [05:56] <bongoboy99> it's called starcraft
#747 [05:57] <bongoboy99> lord_ralex even tested and he connected
#748 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> I cannot connect to your server via 192.168.0.2. It'll actually connect to one of my machines in my house.
#749 [05:57] <bongoboy99> there is no ip to search for a classic server, just search the name and connect
#750 [05:57] <bongoboy99> then you'll believe me
#751 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes. What you don't understand is that the link that's on the classic mp page at minecraft.net will connect to your public ip address. Not your router ip
#752 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> ralex most likely already set up port forwarding for you.
#753 [05:58] <bongoboy99> nah he told me how to do it in firewall rules and I did what he said
#754 [05:58] <bongoboy99> and i forwarded y router ip and it worked
#755 [05:59] <bongoboy99> my
#756 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. SMP works differently. It has no link to click on.
#757 [05:59] <bongoboy99> and other people can get on it
#758 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> That's really all you need to know
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#760 [05:59] <bongoboy99> exactly, but it can be confusing so please don't let peeps here be mean too me about it
#761 [05:59] <bongoboy99> I'm actually feeling like i pick this stuff up quickly
#762 [06:00] <bongoboy99> so i do what i did for my classic server, but put the ip of my public ip in, right?
#763 [06:00] <bongoboy99> then it should work
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#766 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know. What did you do for your classic server?
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#769 [06:00] <bongoboy99> I put my router ip under inbound/outbound traffic for the services where i opened the port for the server
#770 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> In.. windows firewall?
#771 [06:01] <bongoboy99> no on the router config
#772 [06:02] <bongoboy99> that you search in the internet when you put your ip in
#773 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Then the one you got to when you put in http://192.168.0.1 ?
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#775 [06:02] <bongoboy99> yeah
#776 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Then yes.
#777 [06:03] <bongoboy99> so i did it right? all i have to do is for my smp, is put the public ip for the smp, right?
#778 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> You set up port 25566 on the SMP server, yes? You'll then port forward 25566 to 192.168.0.2
#779 [06:03] <bongoboy99> then you can try and connect
#780 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Just like how you did 25565 for the classic server
#781 [06:03] <bongoboy99> ok
#782 [06:04] <bongoboy99> I've already ported 25566 to 192.168.0.2
#783 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Then run your server
#784 [06:04] <bongoboy99> in the inbound traffic part
#785 [06:04] <bongoboy99> and outbound traffic is aways opposite
#786 [06:04] <bongoboy99> I am running the server software for my server
#787 [06:04] <bongoboy99> so it should work
#788 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> ;check bongoboy99
#789 [06:04] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: ppp121-44-133-93.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net:25565 (Timed out)
#790 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> oh, right.
#791 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> ;check bongoboy99:25566
#792 [06:05] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: ppp121-44-133-93.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net:25566 (Timed out)
#793 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> The bot does not see a server on 25566
#794 [06:05] <bongoboy99> maybe the bot had an errror? or maybe i have to put the public ip forwarded to port 25566
#795 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot of your router page I can look at?
#796 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> There's thousands of different router config pages, for hundreds of different models.
#797 [06:06] <bongoboy99> um ok I'll put one on imgur
#798 [06:06] <bongoboy99> yeah but i'd rather do it in the router
#799 [06:07] <bongoboy99> once i know how to do it right i should be fine
#800 [06:07] <bongoboy99> ok, what part do you want me to screenshot?
#801 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> The whole page?
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#803 [06:10] <bongoboy99_> sorr y lost connection
#804 [06:10] <bongoboy99_> you there grey? what command to copy to paint?
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#806 [06:11] <Eplemosen> on windows it's Ctrl+V
#807 [06:11] <bongoboy99_> thanks
#808 [06:11] <bongoboy99_> is grey here?
#809 [06:11] <Eplemosen> Doesn't say he quit
#810 [06:12] <bongoboy99_> ok
#811 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I actually need to take off here. Work calls.
#812 [06:12] <bongoboy99_> ok cya
#813 [06:12] <bongoboy99_> eple, can you help me then?
#814 [06:12] <Eplemosen> Sure
#815 [06:14] <bongoboy99_> thanks
#816 [06:14] <bongoboy99_> you know what i'm trying to do? I need to use the public ip for smp apparently
#817 [06:15] <bongoboy99_> but i can use the router ip for classic
#818 [06:15] <bongoboy99_> it's weird, but here i'll screenshot
#819 [06:15] <Eplemosen> So you're trying to forward a port to the server?
#820 [06:15] <bongoboy99_> yeah I've already set the port 25566 up, so it doesn't collide with my classic server
#821 [06:16] <Eplemosen> Alright
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#823 [06:16] <bongoboy99_> but apparently i need to use the public ip for smp
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#825 [06:16] <bongoboy99_> anyway i'll send you the link so you can look at imgur and see
#826 [06:17] <Eplemosen> Yeah that's why you have to forward the port
#827 [06:17] <bongoboy99_> http://imgur.com/gCMEm
#828 [06:17] <Eplemosen> So people outside your network can join
#829 [06:17] <bongoboy99_> I have forwarded, the port in services
#830 [06:17] <bongoboy99_> and set up the port and ip in firewall rules
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#832 [06:17] <bongoboy99_> except apparenty i need the public ip for smp but not classic
#833 [06:18] <Eplemosen> I think the services under 'Outbound Services' should be set to allow always
#834 [06:18] <bongoboy99_> oh ok
#835 [06:19] <bongoboy99_> lord_ralex helped me with my classic one but he said they should always be opposite
#836 [06:20] <bongoboy99_> l don't know why, maybe it's just like that for classic but I'll try putting it too allow always for the smp one then?
#837 [06:20] <bongoboy99_> and i should be able to use my router ip for smp?
#838 [06:20] <Eplemosen> Yeah that makes sense for me at least
#839 [06:21] <bongoboy99_> ok then
#840 [06:21] <Eplemosen> I don't know much about setting up a classic server and it's differences from a premium server
#841 [06:21] <bongoboy99_> then can you try and connect when i say?
#842 [06:21] <Eplemosen> k
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#844 [06:21] <bongoboy99_> My premium server is called, Pimp_Devil and ip should be 192.168.0.2 when i fix this up
#845 [06:22] <bongoboy99_> like it is but i'll allow outbound traffic
#846 [06:22] <Eplemosen> Well, 192.168.0.2 is your local ip
#847 [06:22] <bongoboy99_> yeah
#848 [06:22] <Eplemosen> I can't use that because I'm not on your local network
#849 [06:22] <bongoboy99_> it should work
#850 [06:22] <bongoboy99_> damn
#851 [06:22] <Eplemosen> I need your public IP
#852 [06:22] <bongoboy99_> so what ip do i use, ipv4 address?
#853 [06:23] <Eplemosen> go to http://www.whatsmyip.org/
#854 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> damn so i forward my public ip in firewall rules?
#855 [06:23] <Eplemosen> no you don't
#856 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> i already know my public ip
#857 [06:23] <Eplemosen> The IP you entered is correct
#858 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> oh so how do i do it then
#859 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> oh ok
#860 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> so i just tell you my public ip?
#861 [06:23] <bongoboy99_> 121.44.133.93 here it is
#862 [06:24] <Eplemosen> You forward a port to a local IP so that people connecting with the _public_ IP are forwarded to the correct computer on your network
#863 [06:24] <Eplemosen> ;check 121.44.133.93:25566
#864 [06:24] <WugBot> 121.44.133.93:25566 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#865 [06:24] <Eplemosen> Seems to be working :)
#866 [06:25] <bongoboy99_> what so tell me again please?
#867 [06:25] <bongoboy99_> so i just have to tell people the public ip?
#868 [06:25] <Eplemosen> yes
#869 [06:25] <bongoboy99_> can you like get on my server please and I'll see if it works?
#870 [06:25] <Eplemosen> people will connect to your server with 121.44.133.93:25566
#871 [06:26] <bongoboy99_> ok, ill write it down for myself so i can remember it then and ill give them the public ip and keep all the stuff in the router as it is now, since it seems to work
#872 [06:27] <bongoboy99_> can you try and connect to my server though, please?
#873 [06:27] <Eplemosen> Yeah I just joined
#874 [06:27] <Eplemosen> Seems like I have a really high latency though
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#876 [06:29] <bongoboy99_> yeah
#877 [06:30] <bongoboy99_> atleast it works
#878 [06:30] <bongoboy99_> atleast it works
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#880 [06:30] <bongoboy99_> if i change it too low lag i think it uses more bandwidth though so i'll keep it as is
#881 [06:30] <bongoboy99_> I'm getting no too see now btw
#882 [06:31] <bongoboy99_> now, I can't seem to get on it
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#884 [06:32] <Eplemosen> that's weird
#885 [06:32] <bongoboy99_> yeah
#886 [06:32] <Eplemosen> are you using the correct IP?
#887 [06:32] <bongoboy99_> yeah i'm using the router one to forward it
#888 [06:32] <bongoboy99_> well it shows the router one on the server list
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#890 [06:33] <bongoboy99_> but how did you get on then? So I have to do direct connect then
#891 [06:33] <Eplemosen> I'm using 121.44.133.93:25566
#892 [06:33] <Eplemosen> don't forget the :25566
#893 [06:34] <bongoboy99_> yeah but you don't always have to type the port as far as i know
#894 [06:34] <Eplemosen> yes you do
#895 [06:34] <bongoboy99_> and in the server list when you go to preium it should say the port as that then
#896 [06:34] <Eplemosen> If you don't, the game thinks you're using the default port, 25565
#897 [06:34] <bongoboy99_> oh ok
#898 [06:35] <bongoboy99_> but to not have to use direct connect, I need to get it to display the public ip in the add a server option
#899 [06:35] <bongoboy99_> cause at the moment it shows 192.168.0.2
#900 [06:35] <Eplemosen> yeah you can use 192.168.0.2 too, because you're on the same network as the server
#901 [06:35] <bongoboy99_> oh ok
#902 [06:35] <Eplemosen> but other people has to use the public IP
#903 [06:36] <bongoboy99_> but it still says communication error on the add a server thing for some reason
#904 [06:36] <bongoboy99_> btw when i typed the public ip and 25566 it worked so that's cool
#905 [06:36] <bongoboy99_> just need to figure out why it's coming up with communication error at the moment
#906 [06:36] <Eplemosen> yeah you need the port too, so it's 192.168.0.2:25566
#907 [06:37] <bongoboy99_> ok
#908 [06:37] <bongoboy99_> but with the default port you don't?
#909 [06:37] <bongoboy99_> and i need to figure out why it says communication error in red for the server under add a server
#910 [06:38] <bongoboy99_> maybe i need to restart the server software since i made the changes on the router so it can configurate them properly?
#911 [06:38] <Eplemosen> Yeah probably
#912 [06:39] <bongoboy99_> nah still not working
#913 [06:39] <Eplemosen> Does joining work when you click on it?
#914 [06:40] <bongoboy99_> nope
#915 [06:40] <Eplemosen> make sure it says 192.168.0.2:25566 and not 192.168.0.2
#916 [06:47] <bongoboy99_> ok, it just says 12.168.0.2
#917 [06:47] <bongoboy99_> 192.168.0.2
#918 [06:47] <bongoboy99_> not the port number showing for it
#919 [06:47] <bongoboy99_> can i change it to show the port some how, so i can get it to work?
#920 [06:47] <Eplemosen> yeah just highlight it and click edit
#921 [06:48] <bongoboy99_> thanks and yay! you just helped me get it fixed for me to access it
#922 [06:48] <bongoboy99_> thankyou so much man
#923 [06:48] <Eplemosen> No problem
#924 [06:48] <bongoboy99_> I think I've learnt how to setup a smp server successfully now
#925 [06:49] <bongoboy99_> so yeah thanks so much and cya later
#926 [06:49] <Eplemosen> Bye
#927 [06:49] <Eplemosen> Bye
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#935 [07:34] <H3llsing> I am Premium but minecraft says im not -.- HOW LONG DOES A SUPPORT need to reply ?!
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#937 [07:41] <H3llsing> does anybody else have some premium account problems ?! that minecract says ur not anymore premium ?
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#939 [07:47] <Someguy1> guys
#940 [07:47] <Someguy1> I have a problem
#941 [07:47] <Someguy1> my server ... each time I set "online-mode=false", it turns after I open the server to "online-mode=true" automatically
#942 [07:48] <Someguy1> what can I do?
#943 [07:49] <Andrio> How are you setting 'online-mode=false'?
#944 [07:49] <Someguy1> please help
#945 [07:49] <Someguy1> hello !
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#948 [07:49] <Someone1222> hello
#949 [07:50] <tryy3> hi
#950 [07:50] <Someone1222> I have a server problem
#951 [07:50] <Someone1222> can you help me ?
#952 [07:50] <tryy3> depends what the problem is
#953 [07:50] <Someone1222> the problem is :
#954 [07:51] <Someone1222> I set "online-mode-=false" in the server.properties, and when the server runs .. It turns automatically to "online-mode=true"
#955 [07:51] <tryy3> do you save the file?
#956 [07:52] <Andrio> You do not have the server running while you do that, right?
#957 [07:54] <Someone1222> no
#958 [07:55] <Someone1222> i save the file
#959 [07:55] <Someone1222> run the server
#960 [07:55] <Someone1222> it turns auto to true
#961 [07:55] <Andrio> "online-mode-=false"
#962 [07:55] <Andrio> should that second - be there?
#963 [07:55] <Someone1222> i did that
#964 [07:55] <Someone1222> no no
#965 [07:55] <Someone1222> i just wrote it here wrong
#966 [07:56] <tryy3> "online-mode=false"
#967 [07:56] <Someone1222> its "online-mode=false"
#968 [07:56] <tryy3> is the correct
#969 [07:56] <Someone1222> i know i know
#970 [07:56] <Someone1222> that's not it'
#971 [07:57] <tryy3> delete your server.log, edit your properties, start your server, stop your server when its done, open server.log, copy everything, paste it on pastebin!
#972 [07:57] <Someone1222> ok wait
#973 [07:58] <tryy3> gonna go grab some sugar so i dont sleep :P brb
#974 [07:58] <Someone1222> where is that server.log
#975 [07:58] <Someone1222> you mean the one that appears when I run the server?
#976 [07:59] <tryy3> back
#977 [07:59] <tryy3> it should be in your minecraft server folder
#978 [07:59] <Someone1222> ...
#979 [07:59] <Someone1222> lol can'
#980 [07:59] <Someone1222> t
#981 [07:59] <Someone1222> find it
#982 [07:59] <tryy3> what OS are you running?
#983 [08:00] <Someone1222> Windows
#984 [08:00] <Someone1222> Xp pro
#985 [08:00] <tryy3> ah then i guess you dont got extension show on, it might be named server then
#986 [08:00] <Someone1222> yeah
#987 [08:01] <tryy3> but the type should be log or something similiar
#988 [08:01] <Someone1222> it's server.log.ck
#989 [08:01] <tryy3> no thats not it
#990 [08:01] <tryy3> if thats still there then the server is running
#991 [08:01] <Someone1222> server.log.lck
#992 [08:03] <Someone1222> ok ok
#993 [08:03] <Someone1222> thanks
#994 [08:03] <Someone1222> i solved it
#995 [08:03] <tryy3> k
#996 [08:03] <Someone1222> it was something about a .bat file
#997 [08:03] <Someone1222> thanks for help
#998 [08:03] <tryy3> np
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#1004 [08:24] <ThomQ> hi all
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#1009 [09:05] <ramon> hello
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#1013 [09:15] <tryy3> will 16gb ram, 100mbit internet (i guess up and down) i5 4 core 2.66GHz server host about 100 people?
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#1015 [09:21] <tyteen4a03> tryy3: Deduct some resources when calculating
#1016 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> tryy3: For example, if you're on a Windows machine deduct 2gb ram
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#1018 [09:34] <tryy3> tyteen4a03 its probly gonna be linux, i dont like windows for servers, windows uses tons of uneeded ram and other stuff ^_^
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#1024 [09:47] <Morrolan> tryy3 - If you'll use it for Minecraft only, scrap that CPU and get a dualcore with higher frequency.
#1025 [09:47] <Morrolan> If it's an option, anyway.
#1026 [09:48] <tryy3> Morrolan i can only think of minecraft servers to put on there, otherwise i would probly need a better cpu if i gonna handle more servers!
#1027 [09:49] <tryy3> Morrolan and no its not an option unfortantly ,(
#1028 [09:49] <Morrolan> The server where I take care of has an i7 with 3.2Ghz, and Minecraft uses one full core as soon as there's more than a few people online.
#1029 [09:50] <Morrolan> Might be related to people on that server very much liking giant redstone-powered mobfarms, though. ;)
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#1031 [09:51] <tryy3> Morrolan lol ^_^ well i only find 2.66ghz :S
#1032 [09:51] <tryy3> Morrolan or i found a i3 dual core with 3.2ghz or something
#1033 [09:52] <tryy3> Morrolan 3.4ghz *
#1034 [09:52] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1035 [09:53] <Morrolan> I'm not familiar enough with PC components to really advise you to use one over the other, might want to ask someone else as well. :)
#1036 [09:53] <tryy3> http://ark.intel.com/products/53428/Intel-Core-i3-2130-Processor-3M-Cache-3_40-GHz there it is :D
#1037 [09:53] <tryy3> well i asked earlier but they said i should find more cores then dual :P
#1038 [09:55] <tryy3> though it says 2x2 so not sure if they mean its 2 cpu's :S
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#1042 [09:59] <Morrolan> Might be Intel's hyperthreading thingy.
#1043 [10:00] <Morrolan> Also, Minecraft isn't multithreaded, so wouldn't see why you'd need more than one core for the OS, and one core per server you'd host.
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#1045 [10:01] <remusg> still login issues?
#1046 [10:04] <tryy3> Morrolan ok, then i gonna go with the i3 ^_^
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#1048 [10:05] <Morrolan> You could ofcourse hope that, one day, Minecraft will be multithreaded, and get a quadcore CPU. :P
#1049 [10:05] <Morrolan> of course*
#1050 [10:06] <tryy3> Morrolan ye but for now i go with a dual-core :D
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#1052 [10:09] <tapfeet> How do I get into creative mode... when I type in /gamemode creative it says I don't have permission to use that command
#1053 [10:09] <Necrodoom> OP yourself though console
#1054 [10:09] <Necrodoom> by typing /op yourplayername on console
#1055 [10:09] <Necrodoom> then do that command
#1056 [10:10] <tapfeet> i'll try that
#1057 [10:11] <itzmjauz> tryy3: earlier : 2 cores, 2 threads each I suppose.
#1058 [10:12] <tryy3> itzmjauz 2x2 = 2 cores, 2 threads?
#1059 [10:13] <itzmjauz> tryy3: Mine's like that.
#1060 [10:13] <tryy3> itzmjauz k thanks :P
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#1062 [10:13] <itzmjauz> tryy3: XD.
#1063 [10:14] <tapfeet> It is saying it is an unknown command
#1064 [10:14] <itzmjauz> yeah
#1065 [10:14] <itzmjauz> its like /gamemode [number] [player]
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#1067 [10:15] <itzmjauz> I think 1 = creative and 0 = survival
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#1069 [10:15] <tryy3> 0 = survival, 1 = creative, 2 = adventure
#1070 [10:15] <tryy3> 0 = survival, 1 = creative, 2 = adventure
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#1073 [10:16] <itzmjauz> QUICK GRAB MY BEARD => ADVENTURE!
#1074 [10:16] <tapfeet> I'll try that now
#1075 [10:16] <tryy3> ^_^
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#1078 [10:19] <tapfeet> it is still not working ... I am going /gamemode [1] [name]
#1079 [10:19] <tryy3> dont do []
#1080 [10:19] <tryy3> example: /gamemode 1 tryy3
#1081 [10:19] <Lildirt> The [] are formatting marks, they define that something is optional.
#1082 [10:20] <tryy3> well
#1083 [10:20] <tryy3> the number is required but the name is optional
#1084 [10:21] <tapfeet> It is still saying I don't have permission to use that command
#1085 [10:21] <Lildirt> Are you OP?
#1086 [10:21] <tapfeet> What does OP mean
#1087 [10:21] <Lildirt> (I don't know what scenario this is goung through)
#1088 [10:21] <Lildirt> Operator
#1089 [10:21] <Lildirt> Are you on a server?
#1090 [10:22] <tapfeet> I am just on my computer... we just purchased minecraft
#1091 [10:22] <tryy3> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands probly gonna be useful :D
#1092 [10:23] <Lildirt> If you are on a server, whoever is running the server can open the console and type "op tapfeet"
#1093 [10:23] <Lildirt> You will become an operator, which is basically administrator.
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#1095 [10:23] <Lildirt> From there, you will be able to do /gamemode perfectly fine.
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#1097 [10:26] <Lildirt> Guess he got it working. :/
#1098 [10:28] <carolus412> Remember not to use a '/' when typing from the console
#1099 [10:28] <Lildirt> He already left.
#1100 [10:28] <carolus412> ahh
#1101 [10:28] <carolus412> :)
#1102 [10:29] <Lildirt> People, y u no stay in IRC D:
#1103 [10:30] <Lildirt> Anyways, I think I'm going to head off.
#1104 [10:30] <Lildirt> So yeah.
#1105 [10:30] <Lildirt> Bye.
#1106 [10:30] <Lildirt> Bye.
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#1134 [11:25] <hippymoo> So basically, I had the Minecraft demo, and I plaid it, and used all the allotted time, and then yesterday, I purchased the full game, and now all I can do is walk around, I cannot left click anything.
#1135 [11:26] <Denizen> What exactly happens? Clicking on a block yields no results?
#1136 [11:26] <Denizen> Nothing happens?
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#1138 [11:27] <carolus412> I would go through the basics-logging out and then back in, restarting your computer, ect.
#1139 [11:27] <hippymoo> When I left click, nothing happens, my characters arm does not even move
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#1141 [11:28] <hippymoo> I did all that, I even deleted the Minecraft off my computer and re-downloaded it
#1142 [11:28] <Denizen> You've tried clicking on blocks, I reckon?
#1143 [11:28] <carolus412> What did you delete? the .exe file by itself?
#1144 [11:29] <carolus412> Or did you delete the acctually game files?
#1145 [11:29] <hippymoo> Yeah I have, I've tried clicking on everything, and my arm doesn't even move. And yes, the exe file.
#1146 [11:29] <hippymoo> I don't know where the game files
#1147 [11:29] <carolus412> Ok, what operating system are you on?
#1148 [11:29] <hippymoo> Windows 7
#1149 [11:29] <carolus412> k
#1150 [11:29] <hippymoo> That's an operating system right?
#1151 [11:30] <Denizen> yes.
#1152 [11:30] <carolus412> click start, and search %AppData%
#1153 [11:30] <carolus412> enter the roaming folder
#1154 [11:30] <carolus412> find the .minecraft folder
#1155 [11:30] <carolus412> delete it
#1156 [11:31] <carolus412> then run minecraft again, and it will redownload all the game files
#1157 [11:31] <carolus412> if that doesn't work, the problem is probably with your computers settings
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#1159 [11:34] <hippymoo> okay doing all that now
#1160 [11:35] <KerstinLoda> Hi you guys! I keep getting "Bad Video Card Drivers"-error and I updated my both video card drivers, updated java and tried inactivating one and try on only 1 in both ways.. Still wont work. I had this problem since last update!
#1161 [11:35] <hippymoo> I LOVE YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
#1162 [11:35] <carolus412> :) no problem
#1163 [11:36] <KerstinLoda> someone help me? :<
#1164 [11:36] <Selbram> KerstinLoda: patience, and what do you mean "both video card drivers"?
#1165 [11:36] <KerstinLoda> ive got two
#1166 [11:37] <Selbram> Explain
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#1168 [11:37] <KerstinLoda> Mobile Intel HD Graphics
#1169 [11:37] <KerstinLoda> and AMD Radeon 6490M
#1170 [11:38] <Selbram> ??index
#1171 [11:38] <KerstinLoda> huh?
#1172 [11:38] <Selbram> ?? index
#1173 [11:38] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#1175 [11:38] <Selbram> ?? gpu/intel
#1176 [11:38] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1177 [11:38] <Selbram> Thats not helpful
#1178 [11:39] <Selbram> ?? gpu/discrete
#1179 [11:39] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#1180 [11:39] <KerstinLoda> error/javacrash
#1181 [11:39] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#1182 [11:39] <Selbram> KerstinLoda: See above
#1183 [11:40] <KerstinLoda> tried all that
#1184 [11:40] <KerstinLoda> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 2012-10-10 17:36 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_07, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version:
#1185 [11:41] <Selbram> So you went here: http://bit.ly/ORHfpX and did the step number 2 for Fixed Switching
#1186 [11:42] <Calinou> http://paste.ubuntu.com < paste here please :)
#1187 [11:42] <KerstinLoda> i dont know how
#1188 [11:42] <KerstinLoda> ugh
#1189 [11:42] <KerstinLoda> im a noob :<
#1190 [11:42] <KerstinLoda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1271369/
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#1193 [11:44] <KerstinLoda> oi
#1194 [11:44] <KerstinLoda> help me
#1195 [11:44] <Selbram> KerstinLoda: patience
#1196 [11:44] <Selbram> at work on phone give me a minute
#1197 [11:44] <KerstinLoda> i dont get no help from you guys
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#1199 [11:45] <KerstinLoda> minecraft / mojang should get a fucking phone support or something
#1200 [11:45] * AuBot kicked KerstinLoda from #minecrafthelp (Reason: erstinLoda :Please keep it civil.)
#1201 [11:45] <Selbram> KerstinLoda: Are you on the laptop that has this problem?
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#1203 [11:45] <carolus412> Sry, I have never seen this problem before. Would help if I knew anything about this.
#1204 [11:45] <Selbram> nice
#1205 [11:45] <lutzee> Graphics drivers are out of date
#1206 [11:45] <Denizen> nobody is getting paid to do this
#1207 [11:45] <Denizen> what an ass
#1208 [11:45] <lutzee> But hey, he got annoyed,
#1209 [11:46] <Selbram> carolus412: It is a problem with newer laptops that have an Intel HD graphics adapter AND a Nvidia or AMD adapter as well
#1210 [11:46] <Selbram> You have to tell it to only use the AMD or NVIDIA
#1211 [11:46] <Selbram> or it tells you that updated drivers are needed
#1212 [11:47] <lutzee> Most of the time its just the drivers
#1213 [11:47] <Selbram> That is a special problem I have the joy of dealing with at my job
#1214 [11:47] <carolus412> :)
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#1226 [12:05] <babs> hae been unable to download minecraft onto my pc, says it can't locate java, had HP try and help yesterday, we uinstalled java and reinstalled and it still looks like it is downloading the game but then says warning can not locate Java on my pc i have my paymen t id # am getting this for my twin grandsons they are very disappointed
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#1230 [12:07] <Morrolan> babs - Where does it say that it "can't locate Java", and what does it say exactly?
#1231 [12:08] <babs> it looks like it is doing the download like survivor, world etc and then all of a sudden, on the right hand of screen it says warning can not locate java but on the left hand side of screen it keeps changing numbers, kind of hard to explain
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#1233 [12:10] <Morrolan> Uh, do you know how to create a screenshot?
#1234 [12:10] <babs> ANYBODY THERE!!!
#1235 [12:11] <Morrolan> In god's name, be patient.
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#1238 [12:13] <babs> sorry been trying to get this game for the boys for 2 days now so patience are thin
#1239 [12:14] <Morrolan> Do you know how to create a screenshot and upload it somewhere?
#1240 [12:14] <babs> no
#1241 [12:14] <Morrolan> What operating system are you on? (Windows 7, Vista, Mac OSX etc)
#1242 [12:14] <babs> windows7
#1243 [12:15] <babs> if it is possible maybe you can mail me the card and we can download from that
#1244 [12:16] <Calinou> ...mail you the card?
#1245 [12:16] <Morrolan> Then follow these instructions to create a screenshot please: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-xp/help/setup/take-a-screen-shot Once you did that, you can upload it to http://imgur.com/ by selecting "Computer", and then selecting the screenshot which you created previously.
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#1247 [12:16] <Morrolan> Create a screenshot of that error message which says something about not being able to locate Java, that is.
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#1249 [12:19] <babs> i would have to go to minecraft and try to install again that would take quite a bit of time and would be leaving chat
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#1251 [12:20] <babs> calinou THE GIFT CARD
#1252 [12:20] <Morrolan> Oh, if you tried the in-browser version, try the downloadable client for now. You can get it from
#1253 [12:20] <Morrolan> !client
#1254 [12:20] <Calinou> no.
#1255 [12:20] <Morrolan> The corresponding of AuBot's links.
#1256 [12:20] <Morrolan> Also, you can just create a new browser window / tab, no need to close that one.
#1257 [12:23] <babs> I TRIED ALL OF THE WINDOW LINKS TO DOWNLOAD AND THEY ALL CAME UP THE SAME, CAN'T LOCATE JAVA ON MY PC
#1258 [12:23] <Selbram> You do realize we are volunteers trying to help you right...
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#1260 [12:24] <babs> WELL APPRECIATE U TRYING TO HELP BUT SEEMS WORTHLESS WILL PUT A CLAIM IN MY BANK TO GET MONEY BACK AND BUY THE CARD AT WALMART THX
#1261 [12:25] <Selbram> The card is not the problem babs, we are trying to solve the problem on your computer
#1262 [12:25] <babs> I DON'T HAVE THE CARD WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD OFF THE WEBSITE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 2 DAYS
#1263 [12:26] <Selbram> Okay. I could take control of your computer to assist you if you would like.
#1264 [12:26] <babs> NO THANKS
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#1266 [12:27] <Selbram> The Java problem is on your computer, the only way this is going to get fixed is if you correct that issue.
#1267 [12:28] <babs> BEEN THERE DONE THAT WITH WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NORTON AND TURNED OUT TO BE IYOGI SO I AM VERY CAREFUL WHO TAKES CONTROL ONLY HP
#1268 [12:28] <babs> WHY IS IT A PROBLEM WHEN IT HAS BEEN INSTALLED
#1269 [12:29] <lukegb> Please don't write in capital letters. It makes it harder to read what you're trying to tell us.
#1270 [12:29] <babs> MAYBE I WILL TRY CLOSING NORTON AND FIREWALL SEE IF IT WILL INSTALL THEN TURN THEM BACK ON
#1271 [12:29] <Selbram> It could be any number of reasons. Your virus scanner could be blocking it.
#1272 [12:29] <lukegb> You can stop typing in capitals by pressing the Caps Lock key, or letting go of the Shift key.
#1273 [12:30] <babs> pop up comes up and says minecraft is safe to download
#1274 [12:30] <Selbram> I would like to see a screenshot of the error so I can better help you please.
#1275 [12:30] <babs> lukegb i know how to stop or start typing in caps
#1276 [12:31] <Selbram> Then follow these instructions to create a screenshot please: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-xp/help/setup/take-a-screen-shot Once you did that, you can upload it to http://imgur.com/ by selecting "Computer", and then selecting the screenshot which you created previously.
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#1278 [12:32] <babs> not sure i can do that i just know basics on a pc give me a break at 74 lucky to do anything my grandsons are only 10 so they are too young to know how to do this stuff
#1279 [12:33] <Selbram> babs, It is okay. :) I can try to assist you through this.
#1280 [12:34] <Eplemosen> ;check 89.162.40.5
#1281 [12:34] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 89.162.40.5:25565 (Timed out)
#1282 [12:34] <babs> the other thing when the log in box comes up sometimes it says done loading shows a green bar then goes blank and whatever is printed at the top is all blurry
#1283 [12:35] <Selbram> Are you on a windows xp machine or a windows 7 machine?
#1284 [12:35] <babs> windows 7
#1285 [12:37] <babs> have to get ready for parent teacher conferences today may try to download again if i have time may be back later thanks selbram for your patience
#1286 [12:38] <Selbram> Okay babs.
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#1288 [12:38] <Selbram> *sigh*
#1289 [12:42] <Calinou> and this is why MSN and skype should have never been invented, as well as windows and os x
#1290 [12:42] <Selbram> lol
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#1303 [13:20] <Lord_Gem> I just bought minecraft and I'm trying to make books but although I've double checked the recepy and put three paper vertically in the centre of the crafting table no book apears in the output slot...what do I do to get help from majong
#1304 [13:21] <Selbram> Lord_Gem: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#1305 [13:22] <Lord_Gem> thank you did not know the reciepy had changed
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#1312 [13:36] <H3llsing> does anybody else have login problems ?!
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#1318 [13:55] <itzmjauz> H3llsing: Ill try logging in
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#1320 [13:56] <itzmjauz> H3llsing: Works fine here.
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#1332 [14:16] <stoneo> Is anyone of you familiar with the message "java.netunknownhostExveption: session.minecraft.net"
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#1334 [14:23] <lutzee> You can't connect to the sessions servers due to a DNS error
#1335 [14:24] <lutzee> (also yey more DNS changes..)
#1336 [14:24] <H3llsing> i have the problem that Minecraft says not Premium
#1337 [14:24] <H3llsing> but i am premium...
#1338 [14:25] <H3llsing> and my gift code is not shown on the minecraft.net website
#1339 [14:25] <H3llsing> and the support didnt answer.. its now 5 days ago
#1340 [14:26] <H3llsing> but when i send my userdetails back to me... it says im premium.
#1341 [14:26] <Selbram> Support can take up to a month to reply at this time.
#1342 [14:26] <Selbram> What is your minecraft username?
#1343 [14:26] <H3llsing> H3llsing87
#1344 [14:26] <Selbram> !paid H3llsing87
#1345 [14:26] <Selbram> ...
#1346 [14:27] <Selbram> seriously AuBot
#1347 [14:27] <H3llsing> i got it from a gift code
#1348 [14:27] <H3llsing> like 1 year ago
#1349 [14:27] <Selbram> !paid H3llsing87
#1350 [14:27] <H3llsing> and i was playing several months
#1351 [14:27] <H3llsing> !paid H3llsing87
#1352 [14:27] <H3llsing> -.- for sure i have
#1353 [14:28] <Selbram> So you were playing for months and all of a sudden it says you are not premium?
#1354 [14:28] <H3llsing> 3 days ago there was this server problem
#1355 [14:28] <H3llsing> i couldn login...
#1356 [14:28] <H3llsing> but this was a website problem
#1357 [14:28] <H3llsing> soo i resend my userdata
#1358 [14:28] <H3llsing> login again and then minecraft says user not premium
#1359 [14:29] <H3llsing> when i try to put my gift code again
#1360 [14:29] <Selbram> can you log into the website
#1361 [14:29] <H3llsing> it says already used
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#1363 [14:29] <H3llsing> yes
#1364 [14:29] <Selbram> you can't put the code in again
#1365 [14:29] <Selbram> what does the website say about your status
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#1367 [14:29] <stoneo> @lutzee: do i have to understand you in this way, that i cannot connect to my minecraft server - local one "online"-option=False - without be connected to minecraft.net?
#1368 [14:30] <H3llsing> where ca n i read the status ?!
#1369 [14:30] <H3llsing> menu point profile ?
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#1372 [14:30] <lutzee> stoneo: er make sure it says false not False
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#1375 [14:32] <stoneo> lutzee: thx i changed the wrong server config file X-D
#1376 [14:33] <H3llsing> so i resend my data (clicked on forgot username )
#1377 [14:33] <H3llsing> and they send me an email like this
#1378 [14:33] <H3llsing> Hi, Someone requested a list of all users bound to this e-mail account. If this wasn't you, you can safely ignore this e-mail, it won't bite. Accounts for ****@****.de: * H3llsing87 * ***** (Premium!) That is all, happy mining. Mojang.
#1379 [14:33] <lutzee> ;hp H3llsing87
#1380 [14:33] <WugBot> H3llsing87 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1381 [14:34] <Selbram> lutzee, he was premium for months, then all of a sudden ^
#1382 [14:34] <lutzee> Selbram: yes i can see
#1383 [14:34] <H3llsing> dont make fun out of it plz
#1384 [14:34] <lutzee> H3llsing: where did you pay for the game
#1385 [14:34] <Selbram> gift card
#1386 [14:35] <Selbram> again, months ago
#1387 [14:35] <lutzee> Okay
#1388 [14:35] <H3llsing> my friend send me a giftcode 1 year ago.. i could ask him where he purchased the game
#1389 [14:35] <H3llsing> i think via paypal
#1390 [14:35] <Selbram> And not making fun.
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#1393 [14:35] <lutzee> H3llsing: submit a help request here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new include the gift code as the transaction ID
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#1395 [14:35] <H3llsing> i did it already
#1396 [14:35] <H3llsing> 5 days ago
#1397 [14:35] <lutzee> Then wait for a reply
#1398 [14:36] <H3llsing> hm :/
#1399 [14:36] <Selbram> It can take a LONG time.
#1400 [14:36] <H3llsing> alright thx guys :/
#1401 [14:36] <lutzee> You did include the gift code your friend gave you right?
#1402 [14:36] <H3llsing> of course
#1403 [14:36] <lutzee> Btw http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1404 [14:36] <H3llsing> in transaction ID
#1405 [14:38] <H3llsing> hmm but it doesnt help to create a mojang account does it ?
#1406 [14:38] <H3llsing> or migrate my account ?
#1407 [14:38] <H3llsing> its only in minecraft.net
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#1411 [14:44] <H3llsing> ill try to create a mojang acc and migrate
#1412 [14:46] <H3llsing> hmm doesnt work without purchasing minecraft so ill wait for answer of the support
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#1417 [14:55] <jgreen4441s> i purchased minecraft but it is not showing on my account
#1418 [14:55] <jgreen4441s> i also migrated my account to mojang and can no longer play the minecraft game
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#1420 [14:55] <jgreen4441s> i have sent emails but do not get a response
#1421 [14:56] <jgreen4441s> minecraft will send emails for password reset but i am not getting the emails from mojang regarding the migration issues
#1422 [14:56] <jgreen4441s> username is jgreen4441s
#1423 [14:56] <jgreen4441s> email address is nbgreen@msn.com
#1424 [14:57] <Eplemosen> When you migrate your account, you have to log in with your email instead of the username
#1425 [14:57] <lutzee> jgreen4441s: see this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1426 [14:57] <jgreen4441s> we got the message that the account has been successfully migrated
#1427 [14:57] <jgreen4441s> but we cannot login
#1428 [14:58] <jgreen4441s> now we get invalid email address or password and when i request a password reset for the email address, i do not receive it by email
#1429 [14:59] <jgreen4441s> i have already been to that the above referenced help feature
#1430 [15:00] <jgreen4441s> this has been very frustrating....my son bought this game with his birthday money and can no longer play the game!
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#1432 [15:00] <quiggle> hello
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#1434 [15:01] <jgreen4441s> i sent an email thru the above referenced site 2 weeks ago with no response
#1435 [15:01] <jgreen4441s> can anyone help us?
#1436 [15:02] <jgreen4441s> is there a phone number we can call? this is getting me nowhere!?
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#1438 [15:03] <H3llsing> they can't response against the wave of support tickets... im also waiting for a response because they say im not premium anymore
#1439 [15:03] <H3llsing> seems to be a big account problem with the migration to mojang
#1440 [15:04] <H3llsing> see this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1442 [15:04] <H3llsing> they are awnsering mails from september
#1443 [15:04] <jgreen4441s> i have already used that link....2 weeks ago
#1444 [15:05] <H3llsing> this link is a topic when u will hear ur answer
#1445 [15:05] <jgreen4441s> that does no good
#1446 [15:06] <Scott> H3llsing: Where did you buy Minecraft?
#1447 [15:07] <H3llsing> got it via gift code last year
#1448 [15:07] <Scott> Did you buy the gift code?
#1449 [15:07] <H3llsing> no my friend
#1450 [15:07] <Scott> This happens when the credit card used to buy it reverses the payment.
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#1452 [15:08] <H3llsing> but i could play like 4-5 months... then i didnt play for 6 months... and now i wanted to play again and they say im not premium
#1453 [15:08] <Scott> So your friend probably paid using a stolen credit card or did a chargeback himself.
#1454 [15:08] <H3llsing> but its not reverses after 5 months ?!
#1455 [15:08] <H3llsing> lol no ;)
#1456 [15:08] <Scott> Chargebacks can happen up until 180 days
#1457 [15:09] <H3llsing> hes asking me still today why i am not playing and hes my study collegue
#1458 [15:09] <Scott> Well that's the only reason a gift code would be revoked.
#1459 [15:09] <H3llsing> hmm... but ...
#1460 [15:09] <itzmjauz> Do you login with an Email adres or a username?
#1461 [15:09] <H3llsing> and they send me an email like this 20:33 H3llsing Hi, Someone requested a list of all users bound to this e-mail account. If this wasn't you, you can safely ignore this e-mail, it won't bite. Accounts for ****@****.de: * H3llsing87 * ***** (Premium!) That is all, happy mining. Mojang.
#1462 [15:09] <itzmjauz> an*
#1463 [15:10] <Scott> !ispaid H3llsing87
#1464 [15:10] <H3llsing> with username its still a minecraft.net acc
#1465 [15:10] <Scott> !paid H3llsing87
#1466 [15:10] <Scott> When did you request that email?
#1467 [15:10] <H3llsing> 5 mins ago
#1468 [15:11] <itzmjauz> Try Changing to a mojang account. -
#1469 [15:11] <itzmjauz> Ah
#1470 [15:11] <H3llsing> doesnt work
#1471 [15:11] <H3llsing> i have to buy the game for it -.-
#1472 [15:11] <itzmjauz> You sure You didn't spell anything wrongly.
#1473 [15:11] <H3llsing> so there must be an account problem imho
#1474 [15:11] <H3llsing> i can login on the website
#1475 [15:11] <H3llsing> and they dont show me my giftcode
#1476 [15:12] <H3llsing> when i put it again they say already in use
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#1478 [15:12] <H3llsing> and when im logging in ... User not premium
#1479 [15:12] <itzmjauz> When Registering you get an email with verification in it right, do you still have that?
#1480 [15:12] <m1tal1k> ive made a underground house/area, with a farm. what else should i do
#1481 [15:12] <itzmjauz> registrating*. oh god im so sleepy
#1482 [15:13] <itzmjauz> Chicken Tower.
#1483 [15:13] <H3llsing> have to search for it ;)
#1484 [15:13] <itzmjauz> Tower full with chickens > egg shower
#1485 [15:13] <H3llsing> hmm no
#1486 [15:13] <H3llsing> cant find it
#1487 [15:14] <H3llsing> which verification mail do u mean ?
#1488 [15:14] <H3llsing> the first of registering the acc ?
#1489 [15:15] <H3llsing> but when i try to send me a verification email again over the website they say:
#1490 [15:15] <H3llsing> Your email has already been verified.
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#1494 [15:20] <H3llsing> so i will wait for support
#1495 [15:23] <m1tal1k> ive made a underground house/area, with a farm. what else should i do
#1496 [15:24] <Scott> Build a giant penis.
#1497 [15:25] <Deathspawn> is it normal to be getting hurt from a 2 block fall while jumping on normal or hard?
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#1500 [15:28] <lolol> i have a lag problem
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#1503 [15:29] <lolol> hello?
#1504 [15:30] <jackie> I keep getting HSS error logs when I try and download minecraft on my sons computer can anyone help me with this??
#1505 [15:30] <lolol> how do i allocate more RAM to my technicpack
#1506 [15:30] <Paula_Dex> Hi. My girlfriend has registered for mine craft and has played with me in the past, but now neither of us can log in through the website. She also registered a brand new account and verified email and still it didnt work. We have tried many times with 2 different computers. Please help
#1507 [15:30] <jackie> desperately trying to get it to work for my 9yr old addicted minecraft son
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#1511 [15:33] <Paula_Dex> I do hope someone can help.
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#1513 [15:35] <itzmjauz> When logging in use your email not your username.
#1514 [15:35] <itzmjauz> If you didnt't *
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#1516 [15:35] <Paula_Dex> Have
#1517 [15:36] <itzmjauz> Try Typing your password with caps on, that worked in my case, since I fail at toggling caps off.
#1518 [15:36] <Paula_Dex> registered with a different email address. verified everything and it still didnt work
#1519 [15:36] <itzmjauz> XD I think that's a personal solution.
#1520 [15:36] <itzmjauz> huh.
#1521 [15:36] <itzmjauz> yeah ofcourse Minecraft is paid.
#1522 [15:37] <Paula_Dex> Could it be possible that the minecraft website has gone a little wrong today?
#1523 [15:37] <itzmjauz> idunno but ur not the first one
#1524 [15:38] <Paula_Dex> oh?
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#1526 [15:38] <Paula_Dex> Is it possible for someone here to try and log into the website to see the outcome?
#1527 [15:39] <lolol> can anyone help me?
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#1529 [15:41] <Paula_Dex> So anything?
#1530 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> What's the issue?
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#1532 [15:47] <Paula_Dex> I take it the DNS loggin issue is being worked on?
#1533 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
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#1536 [15:49] <Paula_Dex> basically you cant log into the Minecraft website, so buying the game is impossible
#1537 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I can log in just fine.
#1538 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net or mojang.com?
#1539 [15:50] <Paula_Dex> Really?
#1540 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> All services are running fine, by Mojang's status board: [03:49.33pm] <Paula_Dex> basically you
#1541 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> er
#1542 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/
#1543 [15:50] <Paula_Dex> Me anf my gf have had loads of problems with it
#1544 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Describe what's happening on your end
#1545 [15:51] <Paula_Dex> tried multiple log ins
#1546 [15:51] <Paula_Dex> hang on #
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#1548 [15:52] <Paula_Dex> [20:30] <Paula_Dex> Hi. My girlfriend has registered for mine craft and has played with me in the past, but now neither of us can log in through the website. She also registered a brand new account and verified email and still it didnt work. We have tried many times with 2 different computers. Please help
#1549 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to log into the website?
#1550 [15:54] <Paula_Dex> just comes up with wrong log in or password message
#1551 [15:54] <Paula_Dex> just comes up with wrong log in or password message
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#1553 [15:54] <Paula_Dex> Oops, unknown username or password. If you are logging in with a Mojang account make sure to use your e-mail address as username
#1554 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Are you using your minecraft username, or your email address?
#1555 [15:54] <Paula_Dex> email#
#1556 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you migrate your account?
#1557 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> If not, use your minecraft username instead.
#1558 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> If so, please request a password reset from:
#1559 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> ecr
#1560 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1561 [15:56] <blink> sup guys, anyone wanna talk in-game specifics?
#1562 [15:56] <Paula_Dex> tried both
#1563 [15:56] <blink> first off do any of you know a channel for modding and texturepack discussion?
#1564 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Paula_Dex - Did you reset your password successfully?
#1565 [15:56] <blink> (mainly texturepacks)
#1566 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> blink - modding discussion can be found at #risucraft
#1567 [15:57] <blink> sweet
#1568 [15:57] <Paula_Dex> i havent migrated
#1569 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs, you may be better off in the forums.
#1570 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Paula_Dex - Then try resetting your password at: http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1571 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Then use your minecraft username, instead of your email address to log in
#1572 [15:58] <Paula_Dex> have done. more than once
#1573 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> And did you successfully change your password using the link from the email?
#1574 [15:58] <Paula_Dex> yes
#1575 [15:58] <Paula_Dex> I just tried user name as well and its still come up with oops
#1576 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> When you created your account, did you create it from minecraft.net or mojang.com?
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#1578 [16:02] <Paula_Dex> minecraft.net I bought the game when it was in beta and its worked fine till now. My gf wants to get into it and logging in to the website has worked in the past but we have only just got the money to get it for her.
#1579 [16:02] <Paula_Dex> I can still log into the game fine, but not the website
#1580 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
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#1582 [16:05] <Paula_Dex> I know. It does say at the top of this chat There are currently DNS issues with login.minecraft.net.
#1583 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> That's an old issue, I believe.
#1584 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> The topic hasn't been changed in a few weeks.
#1585 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard of this affecting anybody else recently. Twitter accounts from Mojang staff haven't mentioned any login issues...
#1586 [16:06] <Paula_Dex> Ah ok.
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#1588 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I think you'll need to contact Mojang to get this straightened out.
#1589 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> ng staff haven't mentioned any login issues...
#1590 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> [04:06.19pm] <Paula_Dex> Ah
#1591 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Gah, freakin copy
#1592 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1594 [16:07] <Paula_Dex> It just seems very strange and notch is losing some money from us atm. My gf really want to play it with me and its bloody annoying that we cant.
#1595 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> File a ticket with Mojang using the link above.
#1596 [16:09] <Paula_Dex> Thanks. I couldnt find that anywhere lol
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#1599 [16:12] <Rednightwing> Hi i just like did all the paying stufff for minecraft so how do i download it
#1600 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/download
#1601 [16:13] <Rednightwing> Im just lost
#1602 [16:14] <Morrolan> There's a link on www.minecraft.net/download
#1603 [16:14] <Morrolan> That is, there's several links, make sure you pick the download appropriate to your operating system.
#1604 [16:14] <Morrolan> Also, don't grab the server, but the client.
#1605 [16:15] <Rednightwing> but then what i clicked the minecraft download but the what because a small window pops up and which one do i download cuz i clicked it and i click run but it says unknown publisher so i click still run but then it closes the window
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#1607 [16:15] <Morrolan> Save it, don't run it.
#1608 [16:16] <Morrolan> Preferrably somewhere where you can find it afterwards.
#1609 [16:16] <Rednightwing> omg thank you
#1610 [16:16] <Vikingplayer> Question: I recently purchased a minecraft account. My son and I are playing on the same computer. We want to build in the same world, but at different times, with different characters so that we don't use eachothers inventory, is this possible?
#1611 [16:17] <Scott> You would need 2 accounts.
#1612 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> With 2 seperate premium accounts, yes
#1613 [16:17] <Vikingplayer> So Id have to purchase again?
#1614 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1615 [16:17] <Vikingplayer> Thats beat
#1616 [16:18] <FLHerne> Vikingplayer: I think legally, you're not really supposed to have tw people using the same account anyway ;-)
#1617 [16:18] * FLHerne wouldn't be much bothered though
#1617 [16:18] <Rednightwing> which minecraft do i pick the 1.3.1 or something
#1618 [16:18] <Vikingplayer> Ok so I purchase a game and two people can't build on it
#1619 [16:18] <FLHerne> Rednightwing: The most recent version of it :P
#1620 [16:18] <Morrolan> Rednightwing - Uh, there should be only a link to the most recent version.
#1621 [16:19] <Rednightwing> what is it called?
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#1623 [16:19] <FLHerne> 1.3.2 now
#1624 [16:19] <Morrolan> Minecraft.exe for Windows, Minecraft.zip for Mac OSX, minecraft.jar for Linux / any other OS.
#1625 [16:19] <Morrolan> And yea, the most recent version would be 1.3.2
#1626 [16:20] <Rednightwing> when i click it it sends me back to minecraft.net/download ande then i click the thing again and it takes my back to the same pop up
#1627 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser
#1628 [16:21] <Morrolan> Alternatively, right-click the link, then select "save as" or similar.
#1629 [16:21] <Rednightwing> i see the icon on my desktop so i click it but the it says the publisher is unverified are you sure you want to run it so i click run and it exits
#1630 [16:22] <Morrolan> Oh, you managed to download it already? Nevermind the above, then.
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#1633 [16:22] <Paula_Dex> THanks for the help GreyVulpine
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#1635 [16:23] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1636 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Rednightwing - Do you have java installed on your computer?
#1637 [16:23] <Hemo> hey
#1638 [16:23] <Hemo> i got problem
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#1640 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> We have solutions
#1641 [16:24] <Hemo> I made a bukkit server yesterday i can join my friends cant
#1642 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarded?
#1643 [16:24] <Hemo> what ?
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#1646 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> I'll take that as a no.
#1647 [16:24] <ThomQ> Hi al
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#1649 [16:25] <Hemo> ok
#1650 [16:25] <Morrolan> *wave*
#1651 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting this at your house, Hemo?
#1652 [16:25] <Hemo> Yes
#1653 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Are you connected to a router, Hemo?
#1654 [16:25] <ThomQ> Im trying to set up a server on a VPS. Unfortunately it's a CentOS (linux) VPS, of wich I have absolutely No knowledge..
#1655 [16:25] <Hemo> Yes router Wireless
#1656 [16:25] <ThomQ> I was thinking of switching to windows for the VPS.. Anybody any expierence with either?
#1657 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to configure your router to forward the traffic from the outside, to the computer running the server, otherwise known as port forwarding.
#1658 [16:26] <Morrolan> ThomQ - First install Java, then grab the server binaries, then launch it with the command given on the download page.
#1659 [16:26] <Rednightwing> i tried to force update but it said video card thingies was something
#1660 [16:26] <Morrolan> ThomQ - Also, get familiar with screen or similar, else the process won't last when you kill the SSH session.
#1661 [16:26] <FLHerne> ThomQ : Hey, you!
#1662 [16:26] <ThomQ> FL: Watsap :D
#1663 [16:26] <FLHerne> Not much
#1664 [16:27] <ThomQ> Morrolan: What did you mean with screen or similar?
#1665 [16:27] <FLHerne> I'm running a server on Linux though ;-)
#1666 [16:27] <FLHerne> ThomQ: It's a program
#1667 [16:27] <Morrolan> ThomQ - screen is a piece of coftware which, well, provides you with several "screens", as in, several console terminals.
#1668 [16:27] <Morrolan> s/coftware/software
#1669 [16:27] <Hemo> But i want to play in bukkit
#1670 [16:27] <Hemo> and hamachi
#1671 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> We do not assist with hamachi servers here.
#1672 [16:28] <ThomQ> ahh ok.. Yeah that would be helpfull.. All I got now is 1 console wich I can acces.. No idea on what commands to use or anything, prob due to the fact I have 0 linux expierence :)
#1673 [16:28] <Morrolan> ThomQ - Eh, Google's pretty helpful for such things. ;)
#1674 [16:28] <FLHerne> Hemo: Hamachi is unstable, unreliable and can cause various other problems. Avoid, always
#1675 [16:28] <Morrolan> "CentOS install java" and "CentOS install screen", followed by a "screen beginner tutorial" should help you, ThomQ. :)
#1676 [16:29] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Install Linux on everything, then you'll have some :-)
#1677 [16:29] <Morrolan> Maybe search for "GNU screen beginner tutorial", just to be sure you get the right thing.
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#1679 [16:29] <Rednightwing> how do i install java
#1680 [16:29] <ThomQ> hahaha, yeah everyone recommeds linux over windows for the VPS
#1681 [16:30] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Remote Windows is awful :-)
#1682 [16:30] <Morrolan> ThomQ - One issue with Windows for a VPS is its rather high hardware requirements.
#1683 [16:30] <FLHerne> Rednightwing: What OS?
#1684 [16:30] <Morrolan> FLHerne - Eh, can always run an SSH server. *shrug*
#1685 [16:30] <FLHerne> Local Windows is also awful, though :D
#1686 [16:30] <Rednightwing> whats an os?
#1687 [16:30] <FLHerne> Rednightwing: Operating system
#1688 [16:30] * FLHerne guesses Windows
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#1689 [16:31] <Rednightwing> i think its windows im only 13 though
#1690 [16:31] <FLHerne> Does it have a start menu in the bottom left corner? :P
#1691 [16:31] <Rednightwing> si
#1692 [16:31] <Rednightwing> yes
#1693 [16:31] <FLHerne> Windows then
#1694 [16:32] * FLHerne doesn't have Windows, so that's me out of the answering thing :P
#1694 [16:32] <ThomQ> :P
#1695 [16:32] <Rednightwing> it says i need to update my video card drivers
#1696 [16:32] <Rednightwing> how
#1697 [16:33] <ThomQ> found the install java & screen tutorials.. So many commands :P
#1698 [16:33] <FLHerne> ThomQ: Windows support is annoying, it's a lot easier to simply not use the stupid thing :D
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#1700 [16:34] <FLHerne> Commands > stupid dialog boxes inside other dialog windows inside control panels inside other control panels :P
#1701 [16:34] * FLHerne hates GUIs for that sort of thing
#1701 [16:34] <ThomQ> Haha. I grew up with Dos, so i''ll probably grow into it
#1702 [16:35] <Rednightwing> i see the icon and i clicked it but then it tries doing something but then it says my video card driversare bad
#1703 [16:35] <dirtierpear> can someone help me i have searched everywhere but cant find the answer
#1704 [16:35] <FLHerne> dirtierpear: TO what question?
#1705 [16:35] <FLHerne> Rednightwing: What kind of video card do you have?
#1706 [16:35] <dirtierpear> how do i fix my minecraft jar if it says a java exception has occured every time i try opening it?
#1707 [16:35] <ThomQ> Ow god.. I hate learning after 22:00 :P
#1708 [16:36] <ThomQ> im gonna go smoke a cigarette. When I come back I'll try and install java & screen, see how that goes
#1709 [16:36] <FLHerne> dirtierpear: Depends what kind of exception it is :P
#1710 [16:36] <FLHerne> What OS and Java version?
#1711 [16:36] <dirtierpear> what do you mean what kind of eception?
#1712 [16:36] <FLHerne> dirtierpear: Could you stick the exact error on pastebin please?
#1713 [16:36] <FLHerne> ??> dirtierpear pastebin
#1714 [16:37] <VoxelHead> dirtierpear: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1716 [16:37] <i_need_help> anyone here play minecraft on a mac?
#1717 [16:37] <FLHerne> i_need_help: I used to. No longer though
#1718 [16:38] <i_need_help> it seems to routinely crash with java errors...
#1719 [16:39] <i_need_help> apparently i paid $26.95 for nothing
#1720 [16:39] <FLHerne> Mmm. Can't remember how to deal with Java on a Mac anymore, sorry :-(
#1721 [16:39] <FLHerne> Someone else might though
#1722 [16:39] <i_need_help> FLHerne: thanks
#1723 [16:40] <FLHerne> Try whichever version of Java you don't currently have ;-)
#1724 [16:40] <FLHerne> 6 and 7 tend to be mutually incompatible in semi-unpredictable ways :P
#1725 [16:40] <i_need_help> apple provides 1.6.x and apparently minecraft will not work with 1.7
#1726 [16:41] <i_need_help> trust me i already tried the 7u7
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#1728 [16:41] <i_need_help> minecraft seems to only recognize up to version 6
#1729 [16:41] <FLHerne> Hmm. Linux here, my clients are using 1.6. Server insists on 7 though :P
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#1731 [16:42] <FLHerne> Java is stupid that way :-(
#1732 [16:42] <i_need_help> why can't they compile a nice dmg file :)
#1733 [16:42] <i_need_help> for minecraft that is
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#1735 [16:42] <FLHerne> Is there a native Java compiler for OSX?
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#1737 [16:43] <i_need_help> don't know.. but bummed out because i really want to play it...
#1738 [16:43] <lutzee> Why can't they? Because it's coded in java
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#1740 [16:43] <i_need_help> lutzee: i know... just wishing that's all
#1741 [16:43] <FLHerne> lutzee: There are native compilers for some platforms ;-)
#1742 [16:44] <lutzee> FLHerne: java is made to be cross platform without the need for native compilers
#1743 [16:44] <i_need_help> i can't be the only mac minecraft player
#1744 [16:44] <i_need_help> :)
#1745 [16:45] <i_need_help> atleast it works on my iOS devices... would like to play it on the computer though
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#1747 [16:47] <i_need_help> i'll pop in later and look for help again... thanks
#1748 [16:47] <i_need_help> i'll pop in later and look for help again... thanks
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#1751 [16:47] <FLHerne> lutzee: Yes, but native compilers do exist
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#1753 [16:48] <FLHerne> There's nothing about the language itself that requires a weird VM thing
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#1755 [16:49] <ThomQ> ahh man.. the console works through a browser.. Typing in a console with a second delay is crazy! :P
#1756 [16:49] <FLHerne> Only a second?
#1757 [16:50] <FLHerne> My ancient laptop is way worse than that sometimes, and that's when sitting at it :D
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#1761 [16:55] <ThomQ> pfff.. I cant even get through the login screen
#1762 [16:56] <ThomQ> lol
#1763 [16:56] <ThomQ> now it's on :@
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#1765 [16:58] <xXJellyCowXx> Hhello?
#1766 [16:58] <xXJellyCowXx> My friend wants me to make him a server with an ip and everything how do I do that?
#1767 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1768 [16:59] <FLHerne> xXJellyCowXx: You'll need either a VPS, or a permanently-on computer with port forwarding
#1769 [16:59] <xXJellyCowXx> Whats a VPS?
#1770 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Virtual private server
#1771 [17:00] <FLHerne> virtual private server ;-)
#1772 [17:00] <lutzee> Virtual Private Server
#1773 [17:00] <ThomQ> virtual private server?
#1774 [17:00] <Selbram> And the answer is! ^
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#1776 [17:00] <xXJellyCowXx> ?:I
#1777 [17:00] <FLHerne> Consecutive replies with varying punctuation!
#1778 [17:00] <xXJellyCowXx> I'm not that smart on computers...
#1779 [17:00] <jen> how do i delete my profile and take my name off
#1780 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> jen - Not possible.
#1781 [17:01] <xXJellyCowXx> You can't.
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#1784 [17:01] <xXJellyCowXx> Be right back...
#1785 [17:01] <jen> darn. thanks anyway!
#1786 [17:02] <jen> can i change my username?
#1787 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> I’m interested about why someone would want to delete and remove their profile
#1788 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> That's also a no.
#1789 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#1790 [17:02] <xXJellyCowXx> Wait can you please give me some steps how to make an server?
#1791 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Download minecraft_server from minecraft.net/download
#1792 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> You choose which username you have when you pay for it. You’re welcome to choose another username for your premium account, but that also involves paying for it too.
#1793 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Run server. Port forward as necessary
#1794 [17:03] <xXJellyCowXx> Ok
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#1797 [17:04] <xXJellyCowXx> I downloaded multiplayer server?
#1798 [17:04] <xXJellyCowXx> I did that.
#1799 [17:05] <xXJellyCowXx> And it said 25565
#1800 [17:05] <xXJellyCowXx> So now i look it up and do it all?
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#1806 [17:15] <ThomQ> I can see I need a lot of patience when dealing with VPS'es :P
#1807 [17:18] <lutzee> When you are used a command line interface, things get easier
#1808 [17:18] <ThomQ> yeah, I got Putty
#1809 [17:19] <ThomQ> works great till I have to fill in a password.. The cursor doesn't move when typing it in.. not on the webconsole either :P
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#1811 [17:25] <TheNoodle> ThomQ....That's supposed to happen.
#1812 [17:26] <TheNoodle> Just type the password like normal :P
#1813 [17:26] <lutzee> It fooled me the first time
#1814 [17:26] <lutzee> But i'm used to it
#1815 [17:26] <ThomQ> ahh I just asked in the main centos channel :P
#1816 [17:26] <TheNoodle> lolled
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#1818 [17:27] <ThomQ> probably one of the n00biest question they got there in a while lol
#1819 [17:28] <ThomQ> F me though.. that means that the vps doesnt register the users I create
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#1825 [17:41] <ShaRose> marc is coming soon.
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#1827 [17:41] <ShaRose> ftw
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#1829 [17:50] <ThomQ> pfff.. Well. Linux has proven it's pint why I don't like it
#1830 [17:50] <ThomQ> spent an hour on trying to log in !! :P
#1831 [17:51] <squrrl101> Hi, I bought 2 accounts but am unable to log into the 2nd one, it keeps taking me back to the first one. Do you have any advice for fixing this?
#1832 [17:51] <Morrolan> While a quick Google search would have solved your issue, yes, ThomQ, Linux's fault. :P
#1833 [17:52] <Morrolan> squrrl101 - How does it "take you back to the first one"?
#1834 [17:52] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I had a question about a help page on the mojang site saying something, then in the next paragraph saying something else that seemed to be the complete opposite. This was last week though, so I’ll try to recall what that something was now.
#1835 [17:52] <squrrl101> When i open Minecraft and enter the new login info, then click login, it opens the previously purchased account.
#1836 [17:53] <ThomQ> Morrolan: I had putty quite early on in that hour :P now its about accounts not registering etc
#1837 [17:53] <Morrolan> squrrl101 - Uh, how odd. Can you login on the website with the correct account, though?
#1838 [17:53] <ThomQ> thinking about reinstalling cent-os, i do got that option in the control panel here
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#1840 [17:54] <squrrl101> Morrolan, I am unable to log into the new account at all, only the first one. I cleared the cache, downloaded the game again, etc.
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#1842 [17:54] <TheNoodle> Actually I've had that problem before too.
#1843 [17:54] <squrrl101> Morrolan, I was able to log in here with the new acct info.
#1844 [17:55] <Morrolan> TheNoodle - Let's hear it. ^^
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#1846 [17:55] <TheNoodle> I've never solved it D:
#1847 [17:55] <Morrolan> D:
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#1849 [17:56] <TheNoodle> squrrl101, if you're using chrome try incognito mode
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#1851 [17:56] <squrrl101> I
#1852 [17:56] <squrrl101> m in Chrome, how do I get to incognito?
#1853 [17:56] <TheNoodle> ctrl+shit+n
#1854 [17:56] <techno156> CTRL+SHIFT+N
#1855 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: While looking though the articles to try and remind myself about the issue, I’ve just found this one about the demo. Is the minecraft.exe launcher capable yet of launching the demo as it says on this page, or is the demo still only playable where the game isn’t already on the computer account via the webpage playable version?
#1856 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/425381-can-i-try-minecraft-before-i-buy-it-
#1857 [17:57] <TheNoodle> Mine sounded less mean :3
#1858 [17:57] <techno156> How :3
#1859 [17:57] <squrrl101> I will try it, thank you :)
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#1862 [17:58] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Should the prepaid gift cards be mentioned on the where to buy page now? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325947-where-can-i-buy-minecraft-
#1863 [17:58] <Marc_IRL> yeah probably
#1864 [17:58] <Marc_IRL> yeah probably
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#1869 [18:00] <squrrl101> Incognito mode didn't help. It's still taking me back to the old account.
#1870 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Also, the “demo mode does not work” part here might want to have the instant solution of playing the demo via the online page as a part of the solution too http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
#1871 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Also, the “demo mode does not work” part here might want to have the instant solution of playing the demo via the online page as a part of the solution too http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-tech-support-
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#1873 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> Does the demo still not work? I haven't really had anything to do with the demo mode recently.
#1874 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> Was kind of assuming they'd fixed such a massive bug
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#1876 [18:02] <ShaRose> (lol)
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#1878 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: And the “HTML code displaying in the news panel” needs to have double quotes around the filename, due to a space in the folder path. That is, “%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java”
#1879 [18:03] <lutzee> The demo works on the website, but not with the launcher
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#1881 [18:04] <ShaRose> afaik if you download the new launcher it works
#1882 [18:05] <lutzee> Jeb told me that they wern't bothering to fix it and they would be limiting it to browser only, i'll try find the tweets
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#1885 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> On this page, purchasing a separate minecraft account doesn’t result in separate world files. The only effective way to achieve separate world files is by using a different windows user account, so that the data is stored in a different user path http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/731321-multiple-accounts-on-one-computer
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#1887 [18:06] <lutzee> https://twitter.com/lutzee_/status/235412629156397057 here
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#1889 [18:07] <Marc_IRL> I basically copied and pasted that solution. It just needs quotes added around the file path?
#1890 [18:07] <dirtierpear> does anyone know a good gift code giveaway site?
#1891 [18:08] <ShaRose> no
#1892 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> dirtierpear: minecraft.net/store. I hear they give them away for $26.95 :-)
#1893 [18:08] <ShaRose> ^ lol this
#1894 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> dirtierpear: They do not exist in any legitimate manner
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#1896 [18:08] <Scott> Marc_IRL: Did you guys use a temp agency for your temp CS peoples?
#1897 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> yes
#1898 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Yes indeed, see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1899 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> ok, updated that one and the prepaid cards thing
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#1902 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> good one, thanks. I’m still looking for that one that I initially came across though, but the search has had a good side-effect too :)
#1903 [18:11] <Marc_IRL> pretty sure the demo mode thing is solved by :If you have downloaded the Minecraft client prior to August 1st, 2012, you will need to download a new version of the Minecraft launcher in order for it to be displayed. Locate where you have previously placed the Minecraft launcher and delete only that file. Then, download the launcher, place it back in the same location, and run it.
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#1905 [18:11] <Marc_IRL> But if not, let me know
#1906 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure it hasn't been solved
#1907 [18:12] <lutzee> Marc_IRL: https://twitter.com/lutzee_/status/235412629156397057
#1908 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Remove the .minecraft/ folder and then try using a non-premium account to play the demo. The non-premium won’t be allowed to download the files that are needed. That is how the last testing played out
#1909 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> anybody want to confirm that?
#1910 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> However, if the demo is attempted via the website page to play the game, that there will allow you to play the demo. That is the most recent information that I have from testing earler
#1911 [18:14] <Marc_IRL> Solutions so far are: 1. Download the new client, 2. Delete the .minecraft folder, 3. Use the website
#1912 [18:14] <Marc_IRL> Do these all work?
#1913 [18:14] <Marc_IRL> Maybe I can just delete stuff from one of my computers that doesn't have minecraft and do a few tests
#1914 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Number 3 is the only viable solution. Number 2 is to test and confirm that the new client cannot still allow non-premium users to play the demo
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#1916 [18:15] <bb> Minecraft skin not applying on xbox 360 it shows locked in the game still I purchased it.
#1917 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> There are other solutions that involve using a hacked launcher, but that may not be suitable for Mojang to publicise
#1918 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> ;ts/launcher
#1919 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> :ts/launcher
#1920 [18:16] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log in a folder called "log" in the minecraft game folder (along with bin, saves, and others) containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1921 [18:16] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar
#1922 [18:16] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I'd like a more... Mojangy solution
#1923 [18:17] <bb> Is there anything I can try if the skins I purchased are not applying to my Minecraft on my xbox? It stilll shows locked.
#1924 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> The mojangy solution is to play the demo via minecraft.net/play
#1925 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Bb - you may need to contact xbox support.
#1926 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> Aha! I found that page that I was after. This one about gift codes seems to imply that minecraft.net is the only valid source, wherea now in the US there are certain stores that are allowed to sell gift codes as well. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/353966-my-gift-code-does-not-work
#1927 [18:19] <bb> I did contact xbox they said the content is downloaded on the xbox and not corrupted I redownloaded it twice from download history after delting it and it still shows locked. Anything else I can try?
#1928 [18:19] <bb> They said it was issue with mine craft account possible
#1929 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: So with the demo situation, people can get instant gratification via minecraft.net/play if they don’t have anyone with a premium account to allow the launcher to download what it needs
#1930 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> bb - Sorry, not many of us here use an xbox for minecraft.
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#1932 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> I don't have an answer for that.
#1933 [18:21] <bb> oh ok
#1934 [18:21] <bb> thanks
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#1937 [18:22] <ThomQ> I'm in!! Finally :P
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#1941 [18:23] <Marc_IRL> The prepaid cards don't give Mojang gift codes as far as I know, but it might benefit from some clarifying language
#1942 [18:23] <santua007killer> I just bought Minecraft but when I download it it says it's damaged (OS X)
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#1944 [18:24] <Scott> Delete the .app, and download it again
#1945 [18:24] <santua007killer> already done it
#1946 [18:25] <Scott> What version of OS X?
#1947 [18:25] <lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1948 [18:25] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Apple has recently added new security to recent versiona of OS X which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#1950 [18:25] <lutzee> Scott: ^
#1951 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> ahh good, I wasn’t too sure if they were gift codes or not, because the minecraft.net/prepaid page has a heading called “Prepaid Gift Cards” that says “you can redeem the code on the card”
#1952 [18:25] <Scott> lutzee: That wouldn't cause a damage error.
#1953 [18:26] <lutzee> Scott: yes it does
#1954 [18:26] <lutzee> It's apples way of saying F you to non app store apps
#1955 [18:26] <Scott> No, this is the error: http://cdn.thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/07/Gatekeeper-Error-MAS_ID-Only.png
#1956 [18:27] <lutzee> Well, everytime someone gets that error, and they turn gatekeeper off it magically fixes itself
#1957 [18:27] <Scott> I am sure you're talking about the error in that image and not a "damaged application" error.
#1958 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> scott.
#1959 [18:28] <lutzee> Either how, even redownloading the app will just spew the damaged error
#1960 [18:28] <Scott> GreyVulpine.
#1961 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> google. "mac minecraft damaged"
#1962 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> youll then see what we're yalking abput
#1963 [18:29] <Scott> Why is it doing that?
#1964 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> talking, even
#1965 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> gatekeeper
#1966 [18:29] <Scott> I need to recreate it and open a ticket with Apple engineering.
#1967 [18:30] <Scott> It shouldn't throw the damaged error, it should say it's not identified
#1968 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> nope
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#1970 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> if you google it, you'll see it's gatekeeper and the mc archive not agreeing with each other
#1971 [18:32] <Wug> Sqawt.
#1972 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> why, i have no idea
#1973 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> i dont have a mac
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#1982 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Confirmed - the latest minecraft.exe with no .minecraft/ folder and a non-premium account just sits at the “Done loading” screen at around the 95% point because it’s not allowed to download the files and crashes with the following class not found exception http://pastebin.com/yM0f48z5
#1983 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.net/play is allowed to download those files though, so after playing minecraft using the online version, the minecraft.exe file can also be used at that point by a non-premium user account to play the demo too
#1984 [18:48] <Wug> Marc_IRL: turns out I've already patched it
#1985 [18:48] <Wug> if you want me to send you the launcher I use then I will
#1986 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> Wug: I mentioned that earlier (and linked to it too) but a more mjoangy way is preferred
#1987 [18:49] <Wug> mjoangy?
#1988 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> It’s fun trying to pronounce that one
#1989 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> [11:16:58] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I'd like a more... Mojangy solution
#1990 [18:51] <Wug> mojangy as in ... what
#1991 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> Without outside assistance? *shrug*
#1992 [18:52] <Morrolan> Noobs, Mojangy == "Why fix it now, if we can fix it in two months?"
#1993 [18:52] <ShaRose> aka no third party software
#1994 [18:53] <ShaRose> is what he meant
#1995 [18:53] <Marc_IRL> ding
#1996 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Aha - the procrastinationing machine winds up in to gear once more
#1997 [18:53] <ShaRose> basically, the reasoning is it doesn't reflect well if they are telling people to use someone else's software, if for no other reason than people saying it's not safe, etc etc etc
#1998 [18:54] <ShaRose> it really puts them in a bind later
#1999 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: So, a viable working solution is to get to the game main menu at minecraft.net/play at which point the minecraft.exe launcher then has all it needs to allow a non-premium user play the demo
#2000 [18:54] <Wug> Marc_IRL: decompile mine and see how I fix it
#2001 [18:54] <Marc_IRL> especially because we can't be responsible for what is in third party software
#2002 [18:54] <Wug> or I could just give you the source for it
#2003 [18:54] <Wug> the changes are neatly commented
#2004 [18:54] <ShaRose> Wug he doesn't have access to the code sadly
#2005 [18:55] <Wug> he knows people
#2006 [18:55] <ShaRose> yes, so do we :P
#2007 [18:55] <Marc_IRL> you're always welcome to email me
#2008 [18:55] <Wug> I could do that I guess
#2009 [18:55] <ShaRose> hell, the two of us probably have easier connections than he does from what I understand :P
#2010 [18:55] <Marc_IRL> well, I can email any of them at any time. Sometimes I even run into the "too many emails in their inbox for mine to be seen" problem.
#2011 [18:56] <ShaRose> yeah
#2012 [18:56] <Marc_IRL> Game stuff is a bit easier, as I regularly talk to Dinnerbone, EvilSeph, and Grum
#2013 [18:56] <ShaRose> if memory serves, the launcher is accessible to them now too
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#2015 [18:59] <Wug> also Morrolan their 2 months is expired
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#2017 [18:59] <Wug> the morrojangy way is obligated to fix it now :D
#2018 [18:59] <Marc_IRL> If it's launcher stuff, you can email grum. Or me, and I'll forward to him.
#2019 [19:00] <bob> how do i delete mods from my mac?
#2020 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> And because the 1.4 is coming out soon, it would be a very good time to implement such a solution too
#2021 [19:00] <Wug> :fu > bob
#2022 [19:00] <WugBot> bob: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2023 [19:00] <WugBot> bob: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#2024 [19:00] <Wug> fufufu.
#2025 [19:00] <Wug> apparently I'm an old lady from pokemon gold version now
#2026 [19:01] <bob> it wont even let me in the title screen
#2027 [19:01] <Wug> bob: look at the picture
#2028 [19:02] <bob> what picture?
#2029 [19:02] <Wug> :fu > bob
#2030 [19:02] <WugBot> bob: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2031 [19:02] <WugBot> bob: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#2032 [19:02] * Yeti|InHiding is now known as BranicYeti
#2033 [19:03] <bob> thanks!
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#2039 [19:24] <Al_> When will i receive my confirmation for buyign the game
#2040 [19:25] <Al_> its been about an hour since i did it
#2041 [19:25] <Wug> how did you pay
#2042 [19:25] <Al_> debt
#2043 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2044 [19:25] <Al_> mastercard
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#2046 [19:26] <Wug> whats your account name
#2047 [19:26] <Al_> alvaro200813
#2048 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> What sort of mastercard, one available from target or walmart?
#2049 [19:26] <Wug> paying by credit card is usually fast
#2050 [19:26] <Wug> ;haspaid alvaro200813
#2051 [19:26] <WugBot> alvaro200813 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#2052 [19:26] <Wug> looks like it hasnt gone through yet
#2053 [19:26] <techno156> odd
#2054 [19:26] <techno156> It took a minute for mien to go through
#2055 [19:26] <techno156> though I used paypal...
#2056 [19:26] <Wug> if it still hasnt gone through tomorrow, call the card company
#2057 [19:27] <techno156> Or check your card
#2058 [19:27] <Al_> okay. i will
#2059 [19:27] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2060 [19:28] <Al_> the thing is i had a problem with my security code and after the second time it just sent me to the merchandise page.
#2061 [19:28] <Al_> maybe i didnt pay?
#2062 [19:28] <Al_> i dont know. should i try again
#2063 [19:28] * DiskDaemon points Marc_IRL to a period of time two minutes earlier :)
#2063 [19:28] <Marc_IRL> d'oh
#2064 [19:28] <Marc_IRL> I have too many things open at once
#2065 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Al_: You should contact the vendor of your card to find out why
#2066 [19:29] <Al_> okay, well thanks everyone.
#2067 [19:29] <Al_> okay, well thanks everyone.
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#2069 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> With so many irons in the fire, you’re doing a great job of thigns
#2070 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> *things
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#2072 [19:30] <the_hitman1> my password and new pasword dont work
#2073 [19:31] <the_hitman1> is there any reason for it
#2074 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: Are you getting the email?
#2075 [19:31] <the_hitman1> yes
#2076 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: What type of account do you have? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/428478-minecraft-account-types-and-statuses
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#2078 [19:33] <the_hitman1> mojang and minecraft but different usernames for some reason it wouldn't let me use my username
#2079 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: Are you having trouble with multiple user accounts?
#2080 [19:36] <the_hitman1> it only started having trouble when the premium be came official and use the mojang account
#2081 [19:36] <the_hitman1> used'
#2082 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> With the mojang account, you need to login using your email address. Not the username
#2083 [19:37] <the_hitman1> i use my email
#2084 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> What is your minecraft?
#2085 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> *minecraft username?
#2086 [19:38] <the_hitman1> the_hitman1
#2087 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> !paid the_hitman1
#2088 [19:39] <Wug> ;hp the_hitman1
#2089 [19:39] <WugBot> the_hitman1 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#2090 [19:39] * Wug kicks AuBot
#2090 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> That might help to explain some things
#2091 [19:40] <the_hitman1> then it is the_hitman2 for mojang
#2092 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> !paid the_hitman2
#2093 [19:41] <Marc_IRL> which reminds me, I need to change the "coming soon" text. Some people have already purchased minecraft at https://account.mojang.com/buy/minecraft
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#2096 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> !paid the_hitman2
#2097 [19:42] * DiskDaemon doubles down on AuBot
#2097 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> Right - so now that you know which one is your premium account, use that one for troubleshooting your login situation
#2098 [19:43] * SirCmpwn_ is now known as SirCmpwn
#2099 [19:44] <the_hitman1> the problem still is it says the_hitman2 doesn't exist on minecraft
#2100 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: It would say that if the username account exists only on mojang.com
#2101 [19:48] <the_hitman1> how do i get is to log in to minecraft
#2102 [19:50] <the_hitman1> it '
#2103 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> I don’t think that you do - Mojang are moving away from those type of accounts
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#2105 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> This may help to explain why https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/255585467699953664
#2106 [19:53] <the_hitman1> but then how do i migrate the_hitman2 to minecraft
#2107 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> It seems that you alrady have the account as a mojang.com account, so you do not need to migrate that one
#2108 [19:54] <ThomQ> lol, installing minecraft server on a linux is taking me 3 hours already.. The horror :P
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#2110 [19:55] <the_hitman1> so how do i log in to the game minecraft with the mojang account
#2111 [19:55] * Gone_Ralex is now known as Lord_Ralex
#2112 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: You log in to the mojang.com site instead
#2113 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: Download the game launcher from there, and use your email/pass with the launcher
#2114 [19:58] <the_hitman1> and now it says too many failed logins
#2115 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> the_hitman1: Patience is required then
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#2117 [19:59] <the_hitman1> ok thanks
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#2124 [20:06] <crookedkillerbob> I have just purchased another account for my son, can we have to separate accounts on one computer?
#2125 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> Yes you can. It’s best to use a separate computer account for each person, so that your worlds are then kept separate too
#2126 [20:07] <crookedkillerbob> since we do not have a separte computer at this time how can I keep their "worlds" separate
#2127 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> You would go to the control panel and in to the Users section where you can crate other computer user accounts
#2128 [20:10] <crookedkillerbob> okay once I do that then can I download the minecraft app on that new account user that I have created?
#2129 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> yes you can
#2130 [20:11] <crookedkillerbob> okay I will try that. thank you for your help.
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#2133 [20:23] <ToP_ThRiLL> I have a question.
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#2135 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> we might have some answers
#2136 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> all right then
#2137 [20:27] * vladka24 [vladka24@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2138 [20:27] <vladka24> Anyone can help me with modding?
#2139 [20:27] <vladka24> aka Dimension API
#2140 [20:28] <vladka24> Anyone?
#2141 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don’t deal with mods here. Try #direwolf20 instead
#2142 [20:28] <vladka24> Oh wow thanks :D
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#2146 [20:32] <Decibelle> Hey, anyone mind helping a really old player out?
#2147 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> in what way?
#2148 [20:33] <Decibelle> It's more a question. I have an Alpha account from late 2009.
#2149 [20:33] <Decibelle> I've tried to log into it again on a whim, and... apparently I no longer own Minecraft. :P
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#2151 [20:34] * Fre3bie is now known as Fre3bie|Zzz
#2152 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> Decibelle: What is your minecraft username?
#2153 [20:35] <Decibelle> Scales
#2154 [20:35] <Decibelle> ... I -think-.
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#2156 [20:35] <Decibelle> It logs in, so I assume that's it
#2157 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> !paid Scales
#2158 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> This article may be relevant then http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#2159 [20:36] <lutzee> Maybe retreiving the name will be useful
#2160 [20:36] <Decibelle> Yeah, I'll submit the ticket.
#2161 [20:36] <Decibelle> I haven't touched the account in over two years, so...
#2162 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> By putting your email address in at http://minecraft.net/retrievename
#2163 [20:36] <steve_> Anyone know how I contact minecraft. My email account is in use so I ask to send me my account information to my email address, it says it sent it, but nothing shows up in email. Does not end up in spam either.
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#2165 [20:37] <Decibelle> Yup, I put it in. It's how I found my old account name. :D
#2166 [20:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey disk, do you know anything about setting up allowances for SSH Connections to your computer, such as FTP clients and Putty?
#2167 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> steve_: Here’s info on how to change your email address for the account http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#2169 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Not much - I’ve heard that QoS is involved (quality of service) with some thigns relating to that, but that’s the extent of my knowledge there
#2170 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Aw.
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#2172 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I know a few people who know this stuff, but all they tell me is "google." I even asked them "What do I google?", and they still say "google it."
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#2174 [20:40] <Decibelle> ... Why did I apparently buy Minecraft three times?
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#2176 [20:40] <steve_> DiskDaemon - I tried that too and it says it sends the information to the email address I put in, but nothing comes to the email address. I can send that email address something from another account without any issues. So something is wrong with the site sending the information to me. suggestions?
#2177 [20:40] <lutzee> You need to have the server running on your PC, generally linux can come with such software as optional installs on install
#2178 [20:41] <lutzee> CrusaderDeleters: ^
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#2180 [20:41] <lutzee> Basically openSSH
#2181 [20:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you know where I can find this server software to host the connection?
#2182 [20:41] <techno145> minecraft.net
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#2184 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> steve_: It’s possible then that the email is calling in to a spam bucket at some stage, which you may need to investigate
#2185 [20:41] <wax> my mine craft keeps crashing I go into multiplayer or single player? please help.... I have plenty of memory on my mac and I delete things but nothing helps.
#2186 [20:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Wax: can you explain exactly what happens?
#2187 [20:43] <steve_> DiskDaemon - I checked every folder I have. This account is almost completely empty and still nothing
#2188 [20:43] <steve_> DiskDaemon - Is there an email address to send in issues to?
#2189 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> steve_: You can use the HERE link on that article page
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#2191 [20:45] <wax> when I click on to any sever, single player maps etc. it crash severy time and gives me an report telling me it crashed
#2192 [20:45] <steve_> Awesome.. Thanks DiskDaemon
#2193 [20:46] <wax> would you like to see the crash report?
#2194 [20:47] * techno145 is now known as etchno156
#2195 [20:47] * etchno156 is now known as techno156
#2196 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, we would, wax
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#2198 [20:49] <wax> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception in server tick loop This error has been saved to /Users/waxonwaxofff/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-10-10_17.33.38-server.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT ed2f3c3b -------
#2199 [20:49] <techno156> ..
#2200 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> ??> wax pastebin
#2201 [20:50] <VoxelHead> wax: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2202 [20:53] <wax> i did it but where do i find the url
#2203 [20:53] <lutzee> address bar
#2204 [20:53] <lutzee> Also you have a modded client?
#2205 [20:54] <wax> m
#2206 [20:54] <wax> http://pastebin.com/CH0RVVeJ
#2207 [20:55] <lutzee> So yes, modded client, looks like modloader, probably a bad install.
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#2209 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> We don't provide help with mods, because of the fact that it's both unofficial, and that we don't know every single mod out there.
#2210 [21:00] <wax> did you receive our crash report
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#2213 [21:03] <mario414262> when log in, java update, i click run then blank screen for a couple weeks
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#2216 [21:05] <mario414262> hello
#2217 [21:06] <mario414262> when log in, java update, i click run then blank screen for a couple weeks
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#2220 [21:09] <wax> DiskDaemon or CrusaderDeleters did you get the crash report ?
#2221 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, we did
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#2223 [21:09] <wax> yay
#2224 [21:09] <mario414262> when ii log in, java update, i click run then blank screen for a couple weeks
#2225 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> yes, it was for a modded client, and someone else told you about what can be done about that
#2226 [21:10] <wax> what can be done about it
#2227 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> mario414262: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#2229 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> wax: Sorry, we’re not set up here to troubleshoot modded clients
#2230 [21:12] <wax> what to i do now
#2231 [21:12] <wax> should i uninstall minecraft
#2232 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> wax: We’ll be able to provide you with better support when you come back without a modded client
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#2234 [21:14] <wax> what does that mean? I am doing this for my nine year old son...how does he become unmodded?
#2235 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> One way is to force an update, so that things are returned back to an unmodded state
#2236 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> :fu
#2237 [21:14] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2238 [21:14] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. (picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png)
#2239 [21:16] <wax> thanks so much for your help!!!
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#2243 [21:18] <wax> ok did that and said failed to launch
#2244 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> That seems to indicate taht it had trouble downloading a part of what it was updating. I don’t know much about dealing with that on macs though
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#2246 [21:20] <wax> should i uninstall and then reinstall minecraft
#2247 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> You can try that, sure
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#2249 [21:21] <wax> thanks :)
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#2251 [21:24] <MykelCa> Is anyone else having problems downloading Mincraft? I keep getting 'Failed to Launch' errors.
#2252 [21:28] <MykelCa> Hello?! Is anyone even here?
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#2258 [21:34] <MykelCa> Is anyone else having problems downloading Mincraft? I keep getting 'Failed to Launch' errors.
#2259 [21:36] <techno156> have you tried re-downloading?
#2260 [21:37] <MykelCa> That is the problem... it will NOT download, and there is nothing in the .minecraft folder to even delete.
#2261 [21:38] <MykelCa> Thru magic launcher I get this error mess: *** MagicMinecraftLauncher 0.9.9 *** java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.Minecraft at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#2262 [21:40] <lutzee> Ues the official launcher.
#2263 [21:40] <lutzee> use*
#2264 [21:41] <MykelCa> I've even done that... with that I actually get a bin folder with 2 files inside 'version' & 'md5s'
#2265 [21:41] <lutzee> Then your antivirus is blocking the install probably
#2266 [21:42] <lutzee> But its like 2:40am i must sleep.
#2267 [21:43] <MykelCa> I'll try to deactivate my antivirus, and see if that helps.
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#2269 [21:46] <Scrandre_> Hey, mans, who are using remotebukkit?
#2270 [21:48] <Scrandre_> It's problem for me, when I'm using remotetoolkit*+worldguard it causes memoryleak
#2271 [21:48] <Scrandre_> And I really don't know why, trying to change settings, but it doesn't help
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#2292 [22:55] <chicho> i cant connect to minecraft and i just paid for the game
#2293 [22:55] <chicho> i really need help connecting
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#2296 [22:56] <chicho> i need help connecting
#2297 [22:56] <chicho> i just paid for the download
#2298 [22:57] <chicho> hello?
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#2301 [23:00] <chicho> please help...it always gets stuck on the 'cant connect to minecraft.net "....
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#2305 [23:07] <XnachokX> hi I just tried to log but I got
#2306 [23:08] <XnachokX> Minecraft has crashed!
#2307 [23:08] <XnachokX> would you please help me?
#2308 [23:08] <XnachokX> I cannot play as it is crashed
#2309 [23:09] <XnachokX> please help
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#2312 [23:27] <keret> i have a problem!
#2313 [23:27] <keret> anyone can help me?
#2314 [23:27] <keret> i keep getting stuck at the downloading terrain page until i dc
#2315 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> we can try
#2316 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2317 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> ahh, downloading terrain? I’m not so sure about multiplayer situations such as that
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#2319 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> keret: Is that with bukkit or some other modded server setup?
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#2321 [23:30] <keret> yes its with tekkit
#2322 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Okay, go to the tekkit irc channel for help with that
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#2324 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> The location for that is at http://www.technicpack.net/faq/
#2325 [23:31] <keret> thank you
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