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#15 [00:40] <RezzySkizard> I've recently paid for minecraft and my account cannot connect to any servers. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
#16 [00:40] <romancrusader> ok i have been playing minecraft for a little while but i have a lot of cool stuff and starting over is not an option so my computer is not that great so i gave most of my ram to java but not all then i was playing early on today and all of the sudden alot of my pistions that were attached to my stone generator started turning invisible and would not work but they are still there and i cant destroy them i tried i dont have
#17 [00:40] <romancrusader> so pls help
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#22 [00:46] <Jamie8u> rezzyskirelp pleasead one of my friends is not able to connect to servers and i directed him to this help chat but he is not able to type in the chat may some one h
#23 [00:46] <Jamie8u> rezzyskizard* sorry
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#27 [00:53] <swagboss1234567> I DELETED MC FROM MY CPU AND I ALREADY BOUGHT IT AND I NEED IT BACK WILL I HAVE TO RE BUY IT????
#28 [00:53] <swagboss1234567> please help meeee
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#30 [01:12] <tryy3> deleted mc from a cpu? wat?
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#36 [01:31] <radioactive> I think this would be #minecrafthelp
#37 [01:31] <radioactive> How are you supposed to clear a pressure plate?
#38 [01:32] <tryy3> what you mean with "clear" ?
#39 [01:32] <radioactive> I drop an item
#40 [01:32] <radioactive> and I used to use water to push it away
#41 [01:32] <tryy3> go pick the item up? :D
#42 [01:32] <radioactive> No
#43 [01:33] <radioactive> I can't do that
#44 [01:33] <radioactive> The item triggers redstone and then gets off
#45 [01:35] <tryy3> A) wait 5 min or what ever the time is and the item will disepear, B) have another water on oposite site and a dispenser above that will shoot same item, and with the 1.3.2 update where dropped item will get togheter to minimize the lagg :D
#46 [01:35] <tryy3> search for minecraft 1.3.2 item sorter on yt
#47 [01:35] <tryy3> should be an video for that
#48 [01:35] <radioactive> Ok
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#51 [01:43] <grimstone1> hi i am tring to connect to a friends server but it keeps saying my client is out of date. what can i do?
#52 [01:43] <radioactive> Update your client
#53 [01:43] <tryy3> ^
#54 [01:43] <radioactive> What version are you on?
#55 [01:43] <radioactive> It should say in the main screen, bottom left
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#57 [01:43] <grimstone1> 1.3.2
#58 [01:44] <tryy3> and server is?
#59 [01:44] <grimstone1> zerocraft
#60 [01:44] <tryy3> -.-
#61 [01:44] <tryy3> what version is your friends server?
#62 [01:44] <grimstone1> sorry its my first time trying to log in to it
#63 [01:44] <grimstone1> o that i do not know
#64 [01:44] <tryy3> ask your friend?
#65 [01:45] <radioactive> Ask your friend his client version
#66 [01:45] <grimstone1> kk
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#80 [02:53] <Calcifer> do lava curtains impede ghast attacks?
#81 [02:55] <DiskDaemon> no
#82 [02:55] <Calcifer> how effective are pigmen spawners?
#83 [02:55] <DiskDaemon> somewhat
#84 [02:56] <Calcifer> sorry
#85 [02:56] <Calcifer> I misworded
#86 [02:56] <Calcifer> pigmen... uhh farms
#87 [02:57] <DiskDaemon> It's difficult to restrict their spawning elsewhere, so that's a somewhat answer too
#88 [02:59] <Calcifer> considering we use gold as a currency in my server, will having a pigman farm be more efficient than mining gold?
#89 [03:00] <Calcifer> 'more' to the extent where its creates an imbalance
#90 [03:01] <Calcifer> Supposedly a pigman farm: http://i.imgur.com/eOqnj.jpg
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#92 [03:02] <DiskDaemon> yes, that's more efficient
#93 [03:03] <Calcifer> oh I see, they utilize lava pyramids, so that they cant control where the pigman spawns
#94 [03:03] <Calcifer> can*
#95 [03:04] <Calcifer> is it more efficient in a game-braking way?
#96 [03:04] <Calcifer> breaking*
#97 [03:04] <DiskDaemon> not really
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#111 [03:59] <Slayer> hi guys
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#113 [04:04] <Slayer> sorry had to read the rules just to make sure... so here's my question: after migrating my minecraft account to a mojang account, i'm unable to login to minecraft. i can only play it offline. using an old version (think it's 1.2.3) and i wanted to update that one. got a new password and everything and an email to verify it. works out well and i can login to
#114 [04:05] <Slayer> mojang.com as well but can't login to minecraft. anybody else with this problem? should i adress directly to mojang?
#115 [04:05] <Slayer> thx for your answer(s)
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#117 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Slayer: Once you've migrated your account, you need to log in with not with your username/pass but with your email/pass instead
#118 [04:09] <Slayer> i know and i tried but no luck there either
#119 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that can be resolved by resetting your password
#120 [04:10] <Slayer> :-) lol did that in the first place because i forgot my password... but i will try again, thx so far
#121 [04:16] <Slayer> mhh, no, i doesn't work, the strange thing is that i can login to mojang.com without any problems...
#122 [04:17] <Slayer> +t
#123 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> What does the error console have to say about things, when you can't log in to the launcher? function Items() {
#124 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> this.list = [];
#125 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> }
#126 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Items.prototype.add = function (items) {
#127 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> this.list.push(items);
#128 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> };
#129 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Items.prototype.get = function (index) {
#130 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> var item = this.list[index];
#131 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> item.index = index;
#132 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> return item;
#133 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> };
#134 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> var items = new Items();
#135 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> whoops
#136 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> I meant this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#137 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> whoops
#138 [04:19] <Calinou> nice bnc you have there :P
#139 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> I meant this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#141 [04:22] <Slayer> well i doesn't give me any crashreport it just tells me can't connect to minecraft.net... but minecraft.net is supposed to be working without any problems and i had this issue only after migrating the account to mojang
#142 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Slayer: That it's not capable of connecting seems to be an important issue
#143 [04:26] <Slayer> really strange... had this only after migrating the account. i downloaded the minecraft.exe again and it gives me the same message. according to help.mojang.com minecraft.net is online and if i login to minecraft.net it works as well, just minecraft itself is not working for me
#144 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Does the launcher itself say that it can't connect with minecraft.net ?
#145 [04:29] <Slayer> yes, after entering email adress and password
#146 [04:29] <Slayer> gives me the choice the to try again or to play offline
#147 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Okay, before you enter the email/pass, can we see a screenshot of the launcher? There can be some things there that can help us to troubleshoot the issue
#148 [04:31] <Slayer> playing offline works fine... ok can i just like draw the file in here or do i need something like dropbox?
#149 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> Yes, dropbox or imgur or other places to put up an image would want to be used
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#151 [04:38] <Slayer> ok got it, it's on the right side: http://i.imgur.com/izSDh.jpg
#152 [04:38] <SinZ> old launcher..
#153 [04:39] <Slayer> that means? because i downloaded the client some minutes ago and it gives me the same message
#154 [04:39] <SinZ> ?? win/hosts
#155 [04:39] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#156 [04:39] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#157 [04:44] <Slayer> like this: http://pastebin.com/MnQ0tzvn
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#159 [04:45] <Slayer> but there are no essential informations
#160 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> Slayer: Can you please pastebin the error log from when it doesn't connect?
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#163 [04:53] <Wug> lol
#164 [04:54] * DiskDaemon hangs head
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#164 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> head slides down the pike, before going squelch on the ground
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#166 [04:57] <Wug> LET THAT BE A LESSON TO THE LOT EH YUH
#167 [04:57] <Slayer> there is no log because the game doesn't really crash... tried all the methods from the minecraftwiki, diskDeamon postet above..
#168 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> Okay, what other reasons can there be for the launcher not wanting to connect to minecraft.net - it's not the ipv6 or special character issue, due to the screenshot ruling that out. It's not hosts, and it's not the time/date being wrong because that would result in a logged error
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#170 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> I see from the screenshot that Kaspersky is being used - is that known to affect Minecraft's ability to connect?
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#172 [05:08] <Slayer> well the time and date should be right at least here in switzerland and i had kaspersky befor and it worked...
#173 [05:10] <Slayer> just checked the exceptions of kaspersky and minecraft is still in there
#174 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you visit https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#175 [05:10] <Slayer> :-( it tells me "bad login"
#176 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> Good, that's expected
#177 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> So it's something about the computer that's preventing the launcher from making that sort of URL request
#178 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> The firewall perhaps?
#179 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Slayer: If your launcher said "bad username or password" or something like that, it would be a simple account issue. But it's not - your launcher can't connect to minecraft.net
#180 [05:13] <Slayer> i can login to minecraft.net... mhh let me think, i only have a hardware firewall and of course kaspersky... i'm trying to remember if i got a new router in beetween, because i changed the internet speed and got a new router, but i don't know if it was before or after i last played minecraft
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#182 [05:18] <Slayer> would it help if i deinstall minecraft including all the roaming data, maybe even run like ccleaner to get it out of the registry and install all again? wouldn't hurt too much, since i don't have the taj mahal or something like that in my safegames
#183 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> I don't think so, because it's not the installed files that the issue is being caused by, but the launcher itself. You can still reinstall things though if you like though
#184 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> ??> Slayer win/reinst
#185 [05:23] <VoxelHead> Slayer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#186 [05:23] <VoxelHead> Slayer: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#187 [05:24] <Slayer> @VoxelHead seems like to be the last try... won't do it today though, too tired. have to do another nightshift later...
#188 [05:24] <Slayer> but thank you @all for giving me advice! i'll owe you a round ;-)
#189 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#191 [05:30] <Slayer> ok i'm out. thank you guys again for helping noobs like me. enjoy crafting and mining ;-) cu!
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#200 [05:58] <Guest64014> Greetings all, I've updated to the latest dev version of of minecraft 1.4 pre....I've notived that whatever view distance I set or RAm allocation I give java my memory usage climbs for a while, bounces off the limit while lagging my game, then crashing...any suggestions?
#201 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> Yes - don't use dev versions of the game.
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#204 [06:00] <Guest64014> are they that buggy, I've used them before and they were just fine....given that its the prerelease just days from going live isn't it usually at least stable?
#205 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> Typically - if the actual release has the same problem then we'll cross that bridge once we get to it
#206 [06:02] <Guest64014> fair enough...I guess I'll wait and see what happens to said bridge in a few days
#207 [06:02] <Guest64014> thanks for the advice
#208 [06:02] <Guest64014> fingers crossed eh?
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#214 [06:11] <DiskDaemon> Speaking of 1.4, here's a good video overview of what's to come http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedUXLPWrGQ
#215 [06:12] <Calinou> http://minecraftwiki.net/snapshot
#216 [06:12] <Calinou> some changelog
#217 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> The 1.4 changelog there is only since the prior snapshot
#218 [06:14] <DiskDaemon> The official version page will have a full summary when 1.4 is released
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#221 [06:20] <AlphaBlend> oh wow
#222 [06:20] <AlphaBlend> paul soares jr's video
#223 [06:20] <AlphaBlend> that guy is awesome
#224 [06:20] <AlphaBlend> he ought to get hired by mojang xD
#225 [06:23] <Calinou> he tried to sell a minecraft guide -- miserably failed
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#227 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> I'm looking forward to this guide - http://imgur.com/a/DTL88
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#232 [06:39] <aritzh> DiskDaemon, I'm looking forward to and Android version of that guide
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#234 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> In the meantime, explore these videos from the wiki, which condense and summarise information directly from the wiki http://www.youtube.com/user/mcspotlights
#235 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> Here's where you'll want to keep an eye on - they're the ones creating Block-Aid, that guide book from before http://thefarlanders.com/
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#238 [07:04] <warchicken> DiskDaemon, that guide is a very very very simplified version of the wiki
#239 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it is. I prefer the wiki myself, but can see a good market for more concisely packaged and nicely presented information
#240 [07:06] <warchicken> Oh, the market is kind of there
#241 [07:06] <warchicken> But do you need this guide?
#242 [07:06] <warchicken> I'm sure you know everything that's in there :p
#243 [07:07] <DiskDaemon> Personally no, but what other nice ways are there to share the joy of Minecraft with others while you're out and about?
#244 [07:07] <warchicken> The other minecraft apps :p
#245 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> Yes that's true, I have them but the information is not as easy to obtain as it is when flicking through a book format
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#266 [08:51] <Lutefisk> Where can I get Minecraft 1.1 from? I have 1.3.2 but need 1.1 for compatibility reasons?
#267 [08:51] * andrewkm|away is now known as andrewkm
#268 [08:51] <Lutefisk> Is it still available on the Mojang website?
#269 [08:51] <lutzee> ?? oldversion
#270 [08:51] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#271 [08:51] <Lutefisk> thanks
#272 [08:58] <Lutefisk> what does an "end of stream" error mean?
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#275 [09:13] <Lutefisk> anyone know the answer to my question about what an "end of stream" error is caused by?
#276 [09:13] <lutzee> Can be caused by a lot of things..
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#282 [09:28] <sfdsd> Hello - trying to figure out why minecraft runs like its been build by 2 12 years old kids - its lagging completely mad...using a minature screen with everything off - any clues? Is there somewhere I can download a full client - what I can find is this: https://minecraft.net/download ???
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#289 [09:40] <pieboy> minecraft has crahed for me how do i fix it?
#290 [09:40] <pieboy> crashed*
#291 [09:41] <Boreeas> Start it again
#292 [09:41] <pieboy> then what?
#293 [09:42] <Morrolan> If it happens regularly, then look for any hs_err_pid files in the same location the launcher resides.
#294 [09:42] <pieboy> it wont let me even get on my server
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#296 [09:45] <pieboy> who knows how to fix minecraft version 1.3.2 when crashed due to an unexpected error?
#297 [09:46] <Andrio> The thing is, that covers everything from badly installed mods to running out of memory.
#298 [09:47] <pieboy> i havnt installed mods but it has said out of memory quite a few times ive played minecraft
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#303 [09:52] <mesmerrow> hello can someone help me here ?
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#305 [09:54] <lutzee> Not if you leave after 10 seconds
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#308 [10:05] <wassupxPPP> Hi before about 2 years i bought minecraft and i was premium everything was OK. but before about 3 weeks maybe later i can not log to original launcher but skin i have.. i could log to page i have skin but i can not change it i will need it if i want change buy one more time.
#309 [10:05] <wassupxPPP> can u help me? i could log to my acc and i have skin but i am not premium
#310 [10:05] <wassupxPPP> sorry for mistakes in text i could only little bit english
#311 [10:05] <lutzee> wassupxPPP: what is your account name?
#312 [10:05] <wassupxPPP> wassupxPPP
#313 [10:05] <lutzee> ;hp wassupxPPP
#314 [10:05] <WugBot> wassupxPPP has NOT paid for minecraft.
#315 [10:06] <lutzee> Where did you purchase the game from wassupxPPP ?
#316 [10:06] <wassupxPPP> from one page where i can buy it with phone.. but i had premium ;) and skin i have now too
#317 [10:07] <lutzee> Um, the only place you should have been buying the game from was minecraft.net no where else.
#318 [10:07] <lutzee> ?? scam
#319 [10:07] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#320 [10:07] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#321 [10:08] <wassupxPPP> so? i have skin i am not premium.. it is not good.. and i do not want to pay it one more time.. and i do not have paypal and thinks like this
#322 [10:09] <lutzee> If you bought minecraft from anywhere but minecraft.net you were scammed.
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#332 [10:26] <ty_> does anyone know when target gets minecraft in
#333 [10:26] <lutzee> ty_: you ask every day, we do not know, go ask the store, they will know more.
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#335 [10:27] <ty_> i know i went and asked the guy dint know what the heck i was tallking about
#336 [10:28] <thompsv> I have a question: my minecraft stay saying ''badvideo card drivers''
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#338 [10:29] <thompsv> how can i fic this
#339 [10:29] <lutzee> ty_: Well that is unfortunate, but we know even less than the store
#340 [10:29] <lutzee> ??> thompsv win/dxdiag
#341 [10:29] <VoxelHead> thompsv: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#342 [10:29] <VoxelHead> thompsv: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#343 [10:29] <ty_> do u know how i can contact mojang
#344 [10:29] <lutzee> ty_: mojang will not know either
#345 [10:30] <lutzee> Its whoever distributes the cards to the stores..
#346 [10:30] <thompsv> lutzee? what is this?
#347 [10:30] <ty_> ok
#348 [10:30] <lutzee> thompsv: follow VoxelHeads instructions
#349 [10:30] <thompsv> what are the win keys?
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#351 [10:31] <lutzee> ??> thompsv win/kay
#352 [10:31] <lutzee> ??> thompsv win/kay/image
#353 [10:31] <lutzee> ??> thompsv win/key
#354 [10:31] <VoxelHead> thompsv: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#355 [10:31] <lutzee> ??> thompsv win/key/image
#356 [10:31] <VoxelHead> thompsv: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#357 [10:31] <lutzee> >.> damn my typing
#358 [10:34] <thompsv> http://pastebin.com/20w6Nbtp
#359 [10:34] <thompsv> is it ok?
#360 [10:35] <thompsv> but this is weird because minecraft alwas did it on my pc
#361 [10:35] <lutzee> An old laptop.. I can get it working, but it wont be fast
#362 [10:35] <thompsv> its only 2 years maybe 3
#363 [10:36] <thompsv> but you can get it working:)
#364 [10:36] <thompsv> but is it weird because he always did it?
#365 [10:38] <thompsv> but what do i have to do?
#366 [10:38] <lutzee> thompsv: download and install this http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18223&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Ultimate%2C%2032-bit%20version*&DownloadType=Drivers
#367 [10:38] <thompsv> i tel you if i done whit it!
#368 [10:40] <thompsv> he is installing it now
#369 [10:40] <thompsv> my screen is really big now! is that normal?
#370 [10:41] <lutzee> That can happen
#371 [10:41] <thompsv> ok
#372 [10:41] <thompsv> its normal again
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#375 [10:51] <thompsv> lutzee thank you really much
#376 [10:51] <thompsv> it works again
#377 [10:52] <thompsv> minecraft has a great helping service:)
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#379 [11:01] <tobsam> can i ask in german too ?
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#389 [11:43] <craftking5546> how do I fix the error Minecraft.exe might have been moved or deleted?
#390 [11:45] <Morrolan> Err, redownload the client from www.minecraft.net/download
#391 [11:45] <Morrolan> Chances are you're trying to launch it via a shortcut, and deleted the actual executable.
#392 [11:45] <Morrolan> (Make sure to select 'save', and not 'run' when downloading.)
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#396 [11:49] <Rellik> ive tried to buy this game now on two separate accounts with three different debit cards and still no luck anyone know how to fix this
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#398 [11:54] <Darth_Reid> Hey, there's something wrong when I try to connect into a multiplayer server. No matter what happens, I will respawn in one exact location with a certain amount of items that I had about a day ago. It is as if I am reverting back to a disconnect time from yesterday any time I attempt to log in. The multiplayer world, however, does change, i.e. I can place items in chests, change the landscape, or other things, but no matter what, whe
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#400 [11:55] <craftking5546> I tried to download it from that link and it still didn't work any other suggustions
#401 [11:55] <Darth_Reid> same location no matter what I had before or where I was before disconnecting. Please help.
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#404 [12:00] <Morrolan> Rellik - Call your credit card provider / bank, ask them whether they block the payment since it's an international one.
#405 [12:02] <Morrolan> Darth_Reid - Uh, ask the server's admin for help. Ask him to make sure that the file permissions for the player.dat files are correct, and maybe ask him to delete your player.dat file.
#406 [12:02] <Morrolan> craftking5546 - What is the exact error message you get?
#407 [12:02] <Darth_Reid> Thanks!
#408 [12:02] <craftking5546> minecraft.exe might have been moved or deleted
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#410 [12:05] <Rellik> theres no issue on the bank side its the website sum hom
#411 [12:05] <Rellik> *how
#412 [12:06] <Morrolan> Have you actually called them, or do you just claim it's not them, Rellik?
#413 [12:06] <Morrolan> craftking5546 - What browser are you using?
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#415 [12:07] <lutzee> Morrolan: looks like he is using a shortcut link to find the exe
#416 [12:07] <Morrolan> Yes, I'd assume so.
#417 [12:07] <Morrolan> However, he claims that redownloading the file does not help.
#418 [12:08] <Rellik> i just got off the phone with usaa they said its active and no issues with the card
#419 [12:08] <Morrolan> Did you try to pay with your debit card directly, or through PayPal?
#420 [12:08] <craftking5546> internet explorer
#421 [12:08] <Rellik> im in internet explorer
#422 [12:08] <Morrolan> craftking5546 - Try a different browser.
#423 [12:08] <Morrolan> Rellik - Wasn't talking to you when I asked about the browser.
#424 [12:13] <craftking5546> thank you so much that work I opened it on firefox!!
#425 [12:14] <Morrolan> :)
#426 [12:15] <Morrolan> You might want to save it somewhere by the way, instead of opening it right away. Say your desktop.
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#442 [12:58] <Cheese> When I try to download Minecraft exe I'm given a message Minecraft might have been moved or deleted
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#444 [13:00] <Skittles> I need help with Mine craft
#445 [13:00] <kelley> When I'm trying to download mincraft, I am getting the errors about the bad device drivers. Seems many others have this same problem. How do i just cancel the order and get my money back?
#446 [13:00] <Morrolan> Use a browser other than Internet Explorer, Cheese.
#447 [13:00] <Morrolan> kelley - Mojang doesn't issue refunds if your hardware doesn't meet the requirements, that's what the demo is for.
#448 [13:01] <Cheese> how do I do that?
#449 [13:01] <Morrolan> Skittles - Ask away.
#450 [13:01] <Morrolan> Cheese - Well, install a browser like Opera, Firefox, Chrome etc, then use that one to download the file.
#451 [13:01] <Morrolan> I'll be off for dinner, wait a while and someoen will take care of you. :)
#452 [13:01] <Skittles> Everytime I try to play it just locks up - I've made sure I have the latest Java and no other versions of Java are on my PC
#453 [13:01] <Morrolan> kelley - THat being said, try to update your video drivers.
#454 [13:02] <Cheese> But I've used internet explorer to play minecraft for over a year with no problems. Why would it stop working now?
#455 [13:02] <Calinou> Cheese: use a real browser to download the launcher then
#456 [13:03] <Calinou> playing in browser doesn't work most of the time and opens security holes
#457 [13:03] <Calinou> (in-browser java is evil)
#458 [13:03] <Skittles> So, how do I play it - if I can't use in browser?
#459 [13:03] <Cheese> what real browser should I use?
#460 [13:03] <Calinou> download the client?
#461 [13:03] <Calinou> Cheese: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html
#462 [13:04] <Skittles> Client??
#463 [13:04] <Calinou> go to win for windows, then go to the latest folder; extract it and run chrome.exe
#464 [13:04] <Denizen> Cheese; firefox if you like customization
#465 [13:04] <Calinou> chromium is basically chrome minus google's restrictive stuff
#466 [13:04] <Denizen> chromium is anything else
#467 [13:04] <Cheese> what do i do when I click that link Calinou?
#468 [13:05] <Calinou> http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/Win/163206/chrome-win32.zip
#469 [13:05] <Calinou> direct link, there you go
#470 [13:06] <Calinou> extract it, put it anywhere (eg C:\Chromium is best if you don't want to see the folder on your desktop), then make a shortcut/pin chrome.exe then run it
#471 [13:06] <Calinou> this assumes you're on windows of course :P
#472 [13:07] <Cheese> sorry, not good with computers. click on the direct link then save or run?
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#474 [13:08] <Calinou> save... oh god, IE, why did you teach users to use the "run" button
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#476 [13:08] <Eddie> I don't need a button to run, I just RUN!
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#477 [13:09] <LadyJ> I downloaded minecraft, but when I try to play I get an error message about a bad video card
#478 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> LadyJ - Could you give us more information about your computer?
#479 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag with VoxelHead's instructions:
#480 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> ??> LadyJ win/dxdiag
#481 [13:09] <VoxelHead> LadyJ: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#482 [13:09] <VoxelHead> LadyJ: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#484 [13:11] <Skittles> So after I download Chrome - then what?
#485 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Download minecraft with it
#486 [13:12] <LadyJ> http://pastebin.com/Dv2xPCbS
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#488 [13:13] <Cheese> once that is done downloading how do I find chrome
#489 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> LadyJ - Thank you, one moment while I read that over
#490 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Cheese - It's whereever you downloaded it to
#491 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Try using ctrl+J to bring up the download window
#492 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> LadyJ - Looks like you're using an Intel 956GM integrated video chipset, with drivers from 2005.
#493 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Try downloading and installing these updated video drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#494 [13:15] <LadyJ> S oyeah, I know it's old..
#495 [13:16] <Cheese> which chrome file do I click on to open chrome?
#496 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Cheese - Did you download http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/Win/163206/chrome-win32.zip ?
#497 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> If you did, you would have gotten a zip file. Unzip it
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#499 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> There should be a setup or installer in there.
#500 [13:18] <Cheese> yes i did
#501 [13:18] <LadyJ> I got an error message. It says something along the lines of "The driver being installed is not validated for this compputer. Please contact the manufacturter for the correct driver."
#502 [13:19] <LadyJ> or somthing like thar
#503 [13:19] <LadyJ> that
#504 [13:21] <lutzee> LadyJ: try this one http://downloads.dell.com/video/R153830.EXE
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#507 [13:23] <Assembler1> My minecraft file is said to be deleted, but i want to get all my files back,please help
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#509 [13:24] <lutzee> Assembler1: Sorry, i don't quite understand, you lost world saves?
#510 [13:24] <Morrolan> Just re-download the launcher, save it on your desktop or somewhere else, then start it again.
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#512 [13:25] <Assembler1> the problem is that it won't open, or be downloaded at all.
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#514 [13:25] <Morrolan> Grab the appropriate client from www.minecraft.net/download and select "Save as" (do NOT select "run"), then save it on your desktop or similar.
#515 [13:25] <LadyJ> Okay I will try that after I have finished tryiinng an automatic update detect ting from intel
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#517 [13:26] <Morrolan> Assembler1 - Assuming that fails, what is the error you get when trying to save it?
#518 [13:27] <Assembler1> it says that my minecraft has been moved or deleted
#519 [13:27] <Morrolan> Are you using Internet Explorer?
#520 [13:28] <Assembler1> yes
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#522 [13:28] <Morrolan> Do you have any other installed browser you could try?
#523 [13:28] <BeautBina> I
#524 [13:28] <BeautBina> yes what's wrong with IE?
#525 [13:28] <Morrolan> Oh, wasn't talking to you, BeautBina. However, if you get a "Minecraft was moved or deleted" error, try a different browser.
#526 [13:29] <lutzee> IE is a really bad browser.
#527 [13:29] <BeautBina> I can't get the email service to resend the email verification. What should I do?
#528 [13:29] <Assembler1> No, we have google chrome
#529 [13:29] <den|games> unless you still live in 2001, internet explorer doesn't need to exist
#530 [13:29] <BeautBina> sounds more like a religious preference
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#532 [13:29] <Morrolan> BeautBina - Does the website show you an error, or do you just not receive the e-mail?
#533 [13:30] <LadyJ> I am restarting the computer I will come back if tere are more issues
#534 [13:30] <Morrolan> Assembler1 - Uh, are you using INternet Explorer or Chrome, now?
#535 [13:30] <BeautBina> it says it was recently sent
#536 [13:30] <Assembler1> internet explorer
#537 [13:30] <Morrolan> Assembler1 - Then try to download it with Chrome, please.
#538 [13:30] <Assembler1> ok
#539 [13:30] <Morrolan> BeautBina - Chances are Mojang put a check in place to prevent people from spamming that system. You might want to just wait an hour or two.
#540 [13:31] <Morrolan> BeautBina - Apart from that, make sure the e-mail doesnt' end up in your junk folder.
#541 [13:31] <Morrolan> doesn't*
#542 [13:31] <BeautBina> I have waited since yestderday around noon...
#543 [13:31] <BeautBina> I did check the junk folder, unfortunately it's not thier
#544 [13:32] <Top_Gear> Could I get some help with an application?
#545 [13:32] <Top_Gear> I keep getting these error messages downloaded to my desktop
#546 [13:33] <Assembler1> It worked, thank you very much, i can't thank you enough
#547 [13:33] <Assembler1> have a good evening
#548 [13:33] <Top_Gear> I dont really understand what CTCP is...
#549 [13:33] <Top_Gear> I dont really understand what CTCP is...
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#551 [13:33] <lutzee> ignore that
#552 [13:33] <lutzee> Top_Gear: what problem do you have?
#553 [13:33] <BeautBina> so is this a user group help? very cool if you guys are not even part of mojang and are here helping people.
#554 [13:33] <Top_Gear> I have an application failure
#555 [13:34] <Top_Gear> tIt says compatibility..
#556 [13:34] <lutzee> Top_Gear: Can you tell us the exact error you are getting??
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#558 [13:34] <Top_Gear> It is an hs_err_pid error on my desktop
#559 [13:35] <Top_Gear> I've looked it up on java and didnt really get much help from their support
#560 [13:35] <lutzee> Top_Gear: can you open that file and copy the contents to pastebin.com press submit then copy the link you get in the addrtess bar back to here
#561 [13:35] <Top_Gear> Alright working on it
#562 [13:36] <someone> When I always try to play it always gets me to this "bad video card drivers" page.
#563 [13:37] <someone> Anybody knnow what to do?
#564 [13:37] <Top_Gear> Okay just sent it
#565 [13:37] <lutzee> Top_Gear: copy the link from the address bar to here
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#567 [13:37] <lutzee> ??> someone win/dxdiag
#568 [13:37] <VoxelHead> someone: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#569 [13:37] <VoxelHead> someone: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#570 [13:37] <Top_Gear> http://pastebin.com/MiM50KVu
#571 [13:37] <BeautBina> so how do I actually make a support request to Mojang? the website doesn't seem to have that option.
#572 [13:38] <lutzee> Top_Gear: can you also follow what VoxelHead just said please
#573 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#575 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> ^ support ticket form
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#579 [13:39] <BeautBina> Thanks GreyVulpine
#580 [13:40] <Top_Gear> So you want the system information
#581 [13:40] <Top_Gear> tI did the win+r step
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#583 [13:42] <Top_Gear> Are you getting the information lutzee?
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#586 [13:43] <Top_Gear> Am I the only person here left.......?
#587 [13:43] <Top_Gear> No response
#588 [13:44] <lutzee> Top_Gear: um, everytime you post on pastebin you need to copy the link to here
#589 [13:45] <Top_Gear> This is the error link ----> http://pastebin.com/MiM50KVu
#590 [13:45] <lutzee> Top_Gear: have you completed all the instuctions?
#591 [13:46] <Top_Gear> This is the information link. http://pastebin.com/3Du5JWva
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#593 [13:46] <Top_Gear> Which instructions?
#594 [13:46] <lutzee> Okay thanks
#595 [13:47] <Top_Gear> I heard that it may be a graphics card problem
#596 [13:47] <Top_Gear> or compatibility
#597 [13:47] <lutzee> Its a graphics driver problem
#598 [13:47] <Top_Gear> Im just not sure about it
#599 [13:48] <Top_Gear> Could you explain to me what exactly a graphics card is?
#600 [13:48] <Top_Gear> Hardware or software?
#601 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> See the display on your screen? That is hooked up to your graphics card.
#602 [13:48] <lutzee> Graphics card is hardware, graphics card drivers is software that compliments the hardwarte
#603 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> It's what outputs the picture you're looking at right now
#604 [13:48] <lutzee> hardware*
#605 [13:49] <Top_Gear> so my card is fine but not the driver?
#606 [13:49] <Top_Gear> correct?
#607 [13:49] <lutzee> Correct
#608 [13:49] <lutzee> Install this driver http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=21827&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#609 [13:49] <Top_Gear> any recommendation for a driver for me to download
#610 [13:50] <Top_Gear> Okay thanks
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#612 [13:50] <Top_Gear> Should i save it to a file?
#613 [13:51] <lutzee> yes
#614 [13:51] <lutzee> then run the file
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#618 [13:53] <Top_Gear> Okay it is telling me i cant open the file
#619 [13:53] <Top_Gear> I dont have a run option
#620 [13:54] <Top_Gear> hmmm
#621 [13:55] <lutzee> Oh i linked the zip >.>
#622 [13:55] <lutzee> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=21828&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng this one sorry, my bad
#623 [13:55] <Top_Gear> haha its okay
#624 [13:56] <Top_Gear> It does say it is for windows xp though
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#626 [13:57] <lutzee> >.>
#627 [13:57] <Guest> Hello ?
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#629 [13:57] <btweagles> hello
#630 [13:57] <Guest> hey bren
#631 [13:57] <lutzee> I told it win7
#632 [13:57] * Guest is now known as Cocowewe
#633 [13:57] <Top_Gear> Yeah its incompatible
#634 [13:57] <lutzee> Top_Gear: this one http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=20601&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#635 [13:58] * lutzee throws bricks at intel
#635 [13:58] <Top_Gear> LOL
#636 [13:58] <Top_Gear> I just really appreciate the help you gave me
#637 [13:58] <Top_Gear> I didnt know shit before i came here
#638 [13:59] <Cocowewe> Guys i have a problem with my MC Account. i cant log in for some reason and i dont have the email address for the account cause its my friends account and he cant remember it
#639 [14:00] <Cocowewe> HELP
#640 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Ask your friend
#641 [14:00] <Cocowewe> about what ?
#642 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> For the email address for it
#643 [14:00] <Cocowewe> but he cant remember ?
#644 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> It can't be both your account, and your friend's
#645 [14:01] <Cocowewe> he gave me the account
#646 [14:01] <Cocowewe> he is not playing anymore
#647 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to talk to him for the login information
#648 [14:01] <Top_Gear> Go to your email homepage and click forgot password
#649 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Either that, or purchase your own account
#650 [14:02] <Top_Gear> Have your friend answer the security questions if he forgot his password
#651 [14:02] <Cocowewe> hes a bit stupid
#652 [14:02] <Cocowewe> no fence
#653 [14:02] <Cocowewe> i cant get any help from his side
#654 [14:02] <Cocowewe> he told me
#655 [14:02] <Top_Gear> Then youre screwwed. You need a new email and new account.
#656 [14:03] <Cocowewe> darn it
#657 [14:03] <Cocowewe> ..
#658 [14:03] <Cocowewe> ty anways
#659 [14:03] <lutzee> Cocowewe: in the eyes of mojang the account belongs to him, so hes going to need to sort it out
#660 [14:03] <Top_Gear> np
#661 [14:03] <Cocowewe> what do you mean lutzee ?
#662 [14:04] <lutzee> He bought the account, therefore it belongs to him
#663 [14:04] <Top_Gear> BTW I think my graphics driver just finished. No problems yet but if there are Ill be back :)
#664 [14:04] <lutzee> It is registered to his email
#665 [14:04] <Cocowewe> well his cant remember his email
#666 [14:05] <Cocowewe> he*
#667 [14:05] <lutzee> Then he will need to submit a support request here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#668 [14:05] <lutzee> As it is registered to his email, he will need to submit the support request
#669 [14:06] <Cocowewe> too much work for 10£ ill just start from the beggining
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#671 [14:06] <Top_Gear> Im out, thanks for the help everyone
#672 [14:06] <justmat> HELOOOO
#673 [14:06] <lutzee> The game costs £17.95
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#675 [14:07] <justmat> I need help with mincraft regarding the problem of "server time out"
#676 [14:07] <justmat> It isn't a common thing with firewall though ;(
#677 [14:08] <justmat> or at lest that is what I think ;/ because on my brother's pc (next room) it works just great
#678 [14:08] <lutzee> Firewalls tend to be tied to PCs not networks
#679 [14:08] <justmat> and the firewall is being set up in the same way on both of pc's
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#681 [14:10] <justmat> Can any one help me?
#682 [14:11] <lutzee> Well, server time out indicates you lost connection to the server due to the connection not recieving data after a set amount of time
#683 [14:12] <lutzee> This can be caused by a firewall but also slow internet
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#685 [14:13] <justmat> I see, what if I'm sure that my internet is more than enough? And the Firewall is enabling the game to run or even is off?
#686 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> lutzee is correct that this typically points to a network issue.
#687 [14:16] <justmat> ;(
#688 [14:17] <justmat> I am easly running many things at once e.g. playing Starcraft2 and Diablo3 at the same time.. are you sure it's the network?
#689 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> It is indeed what a "Read timed out" means.
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#691 [14:19] <justmat> I mean, I went through all youtube tutorail and the sollution they put I've already carried out and its still not working ;/ and gues what should I do now?
#692 [14:19] <justmat> tutorials*
#693 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Start from the very beginning.
#694 [14:20] <justmat> What you mean?
#695 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Delete the server files, undo anything you may have done from a youtube tutorial.
#696 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Start fresh.
#697 [14:21] <justmat> Done this twice already even uninstalled the minecraft ;( and same thing appears every time
#698 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> What server binary are you using? where did you get it from?
#699 [14:21] <justmat> That's why im here ;(
#700 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you using a modded client?
#701 [14:22] <justmat> I just bought the game 2day
#702 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> How is the server set up? Is it on the same computer you're running right now?
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#704 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Are you getting the server from minecraft.net/download, or are you paying a hosting company for one?
#705 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting to said server?
#706 [14:22] <justmat> I can't set up my own server ;/ and Im not sure why this is what I get: http://imageshack.us/a/img189/3391/errorminecraft.png
#707 [14:23] <justmat> So my friend is hosting the game and Im just trying to join but I can't
#708 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, java isn't installed correctly on your computer..
#709 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> And your friend probably doesn't know how to set up his port forwarding/firewall correctly to allow for minecraft's traffic
#710 [14:24] <justmat> Uhm so let me try to reinstall my Jawa
#711 [14:24] <justmat> My firend played online for a while now and he set up a few servers and those always worked ;(
#712 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Then have him recheck his configuration.
#713 [14:25] <justmat> And as I said previously, I did join his server from my brother's pc (next room)
#714 [14:25] <justmat> But I cant join from my pc ;(
#715 [14:25] <justmat> sec brb let me try the jawa rein
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#717 [14:30] <Goldengate> Hello , on my minecraft , everyone else's skin is working but mine is still good old steve. How come?
#718 [14:32] <NinjaKirby> ?? smp/skins
#719 [14:32] <VoxelHead> smp/skins: Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#720 [14:32] <NinjaKirby> I think you can ignore that Goldengate, was just checking out what the information attached to it was
#721 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> !paid Goldengate
#722 [14:33] * GreyVulpine pokes aubot
#722 [14:34] <Goldengate> Yes i have , i've purchased it.
#723 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Then try reuploading your skin through your profile page at minecraft.net
#724 [14:35] <justmat> I'm back and I did reinstalled java but the connection is still not possible ;((
#725 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Try hosting the server again
#726 [14:35] <justmat> ok
#727 [14:37] <justmat> GreyVulpine The same command window stuck ;(
#728 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> stuck?
#729 [14:37] <justmat> Yeah as before
#730 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you completely uninstall java before reinstalling it?
#731 [14:37] <justmat> Yes ;p I did
#732 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> What version of java did you install with?
#733 [14:38] <justmat> http://www.java.com/pl/download/windows_xpi.jsp?locale=pl
#734 [14:38] <justmat> Version 7 Update 9
#735 [14:38] <justmat> It is the correct one, right :>?
#736 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit?
#737 [14:39] <justmat> Oh crap I'm not sure xD
#738 [14:39] <justmat> 64 it should be (as my system) right?
#739 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Go to your Computer. Look at C:\, go into "Program Files" and "Program files (x86)".
#740 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Which folder has a "java" folder?
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#742 [14:40] <justmat> "jre6" and "jre7"
#743 [14:40] <coinreturn1> Hello?
#744 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Which folder was that in?
#745 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Program Files, or Program Files (x86)?
#746 [14:41] <justmat> "Java"
#747 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Which folder was Java in?
#748 [14:41] <justmat> PF(x86)
#749 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Then 32 bit.
#750 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> alright then. Go back to the folder containing your server.
#751 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Right click on Run.bat, choose "Edit"
#752 [14:41] <justmat> Yup, and?
#753 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Your first line is: java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar -o true, yes?
#754 [14:42] <coinreturn1> Can someone help me with an error I've been getting on servers? Internal Exception : java.net.SocketException : Software caused connect abort : recov failed
#755 [14:42] <coinreturn1> I get to servers for about 15s then get that error
#756 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Change it to: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar
#757 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Include the quotes
#758 [14:42] <justmat> Yes it is
#759 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> coinreturn1 - Typically points to either a firewall filtering your connection, or a bad mod.
#760 [14:43] <justmat> Just the first quote? or at the end as well?
#761 [14:43] <coinreturn1> mod?
#762 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Both
#763 [14:43] <Morrolan> coinreturn1 - Either something like Tekkit, or a plugin which interferes with packets, like Spout.
#764 [14:44] <justmat> GreyVulpine did, should I start it now?
#765 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Yes
#766 [14:44] <coinreturn1> well its with all servers and I'm not using technic laucher/tekkit thing so I dont think its that
#767 [14:45] <coinreturn1> how can I fix the firewall from filtering my connection?
#768 [14:45] <justmat> GreyVulpine Hmm, it opened up vsery quickly and closed it self ;p
#769 [14:45] <Morrolan> justmat - Add a new line, containing "pause" (no quotes) at the end of the .bat file, start it again.
#770 [14:45] <Morrolan> Then you'll be able to read whatever error it shows.
#771 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> coinreturn1n - There's hundreds, if not thousands, of different firewall and security software solutions out there. Each with their own user interface. You'll have to figure out what security software is installed on your computer and turn it off
#772 [14:45] <Morrolan> Poke GreyVulpine with it. :P
#773 [14:46] <coinreturn1> justmat are you trying to set up a bukkit server?
#774 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> justmat is.
#775 [14:47] <coinreturn1> okay thanks for your help :)
#776 [14:47] <justmat> coinreturn1 I am trying to set up a server or at least join my friend
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#778 [14:47] <justmat> GreyVulpine so what do I do now? Do you have any idea? Should I go for that 'pause' thing?
#779 [14:48] <coinreturn1> so yours isnt working? I have a bukkit server I could give you what I use in the run.bat file ... might worki
#780 [14:48] <coinreturn1> work
#781 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Go for the pause on the second line of the run.bat file
#782 [14:48] <coinreturn1> make sure you've set up the java path aswell
#783 [14:48] <coinreturn1> without setting the java path variable it will not work
#784 [14:49] <justmat> GreyVulpine The window now stop just like before ;(
#785 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> I gave him the direct path to his java.
#786 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Could I get the screenshot again?
#787 [14:49] <justmat> GreyVulpine sure
#788 [14:50] <justmat> http://imageshack.us/a/img513/1549/errorminecraft2.png
#789 [14:51] <justmat> GreyVulpine Any clue?
#790 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you know why...
#791 [14:52] <justmat> GreyVulpine?
#792 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> craftbukkit-1.3.2-R2.0.jar is the filename in your folder there
#793 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> You're executing -jar craftbukkit.jar
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#795 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to change one or the other..
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#797 [14:53] <justmat> GreyVulpine What do you mean <feeling stupid> xD
#798 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Look at the folder where you have Run.bat. You have a file named "craftbukkit-1.3.2-R2.0.jar"
#799 [14:53] <coinreturn1> would deleting jinput.jar fix my problem?
#800 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> coinreturn1 - What, why?
#801 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Rename craftbukkit-1.3.... whatever, back to just craftbukkit
#802 [14:54] <justmat> GreyVulpine ok did, run it?
#803 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#805 [14:55] <justmat> GreyVulpine OH MAN IT IS LOADING !
#806 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Horray.
#807 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Now launch your client, connect with "127.0.0.1"
#808 [14:55] <coinreturn1> *gulf claps*
#809 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Via direct connect
#810 [14:55] <justmat> GreyVulpine Done .. blabla
#811 [14:55] <coinreturn1> *gulf claps*
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#813 [14:56] <justmat> GreyVulpine Im in!
#814 [14:56] * GreyVulpine nods
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#815 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Now, do you know how to figure out your computer's internal ip address?
#816 [14:57] <justmat> cmd, search right?
#817 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> cmd -> ipconfig
#818 [14:57] <coinreturn1> crap didnt work
#819 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Look for ipv4 address
#820 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> That'll be the address you give to people in your house to connect with.
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#822 [14:58] <justmat> GreyVulpine got it
#823 [14:58] <coinreturn1> would updating to 1.4 pre release then downgrading back to 1.3.2 cause a problem?
#824 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> For saved world, perhaps.
#825 [14:59] <justmat> GreyVulpine let me try join my friend ;p brb
#826 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> You would be introducing new features into an existing world that wouldn't have code to deal with it
#827 [15:00] <coinreturn1> shizilnugget
#828 [15:00] <coinreturn1> grr this is so frusterating
#829 [15:00] <justmat> GreyVulpine fail o connect (same as before) let me try to host maybe he will be able join me
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#831 [15:02] <coinreturn1> what else could I try to connect, I can connect to my own server just not other ppls, I might loose my spot on the Hunger Games leaderboard soon :(
#832 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> What firewall or security software do you have?
#833 [15:03] <coinreturn1> yeah Avast
#834 [15:03] <coinreturn1> Avast I think...
#835 [15:04] <coinreturn1> I tried force update aswell it didnt do anything
#836 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Is it the antivirus, or a security suite, with network/internet protection?
#837 [15:04] <coinreturn1> antivirus
#838 [15:04] <coinreturn1> thats all I know about it
#839 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you're running anything else?
#840 [15:04] <coinreturn1> my father set up this PC a while back
#841 [15:05] <coinreturn1> he uses sometimes I dont think he did anything
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#843 [15:07] <Hayden-Lee> g
#844 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Don't think avast by itself as an antivirus will do this. This is typically a network issue, where some program is not letting communicate freely.
#845 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> letting minecraft*
#846 [15:08] <coinreturn1> hmm would restarting the PC help fix it? or would the problem persist
#847 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> More than likely no. It would not fix it
#848 [15:10] <coinreturn1> il look at some more things related to avast directly
#849 [15:10] <coinreturn1> darn
#850 [15:10] <coinreturn1> brb
#851 [15:12] <coinreturn1> hmm cant really find anything
#852 [15:12] <coinreturn1> Its never done this before
#853 [15:12] <coinreturn1> I didnt change anything with avast either
#854 [15:13] <coinreturn1> imma check my HG stats quick brb
#855 [15:13] <coinreturn1> okay im still on leader board!
#856 [15:16] <justmat> GreyVulpine It is not working ;(
#857 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Your friend can't connect to your server?
#858 [15:16] <justmat> GreyVulpine I have created server and joined it no problem but then my friend can't join me (time out thing). And when he created the server I cant join him ;(
#859 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Is he in the same house as you?
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#861 [15:17] <justmat> GreyVulpine Nop, he is in another country ;/
#862 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#863 [15:18] <justmat> To create I have used my ip (as I found) should I try hamachi?
#864 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, you can try. I abhor Hamachi.
#865 [15:18] <justmat> GreyVulpine "abhor" - don't understand sorry
#866 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> I hate hamachi.
#867 [15:20] <DiskDaemon> justmat: init: init,
#868 [15:20] <DiskDaemon> justmat: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abhor
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#870 [15:22] <justmat> DiskDeamon ;p thank you xD
#871 [15:22] <coinreturn1> woops lost connection
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#873 [15:24] <DiskDaemon> There was a factoid about hamachi here too, or so I recall
#874 [15:24] <DiskDaemon> ?? hamachi
#875 [15:24] <DiskDaemon> :hamachi
#876 [15:24] <WugBot> hamachi: Hamachi is sofrware designed to emulate a local area network over the internet. It can be used in specific situations to allow software that only works over such a local network to work over the internet.
#877 [15:24] <WugBot> hamachi: Minecraft Servers work fine over the internet without hamachi (if they're set up correctly). Hamachi does nothing that minecraft does not already do, except add extra complications.
#878 [15:25] <DiskDaemon> ?? fubar/hamachi
#879 [15:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#880 [15:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#881 [15:25] <DiskDaemon> That's the one.
#882 [15:27] <justmat> GreyVulpine I'm trying to start hamachi server but it says that prehaps one is already runnin ;O ? But on my task manager there is none xD Is this possible?
#883 [15:28] <DiskDaemon> justmat: We do not provide support for hamachi here, as it conflicts with the internet.
#884 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I won't support Hamachi here.
#885 [15:28] <FLHerne> You might want to read the bit where it says "#MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist..." :P
#886 [15:29] <justmat> GreyVulpine I see, asking from other angle xD is it possible for a program to be running and not being shown on task manager?
#887 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Not that I'm aware of.
#888 [15:29] <FLHerne> Also, the only way in which it's useful for Minecraft is to allow cracked servers, which we also don't approve of or care about :P
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#891 [15:29] <justmat> GreyVulpine oh ;/ That's what I thought as well. Let me try to restart my pc xD be back in a moment
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#895 [15:31] <DiskDaemon> For the record, the task camanager can be tricked so that an application is hidden from the task manager, but that's a naughty form of behaviour that we'll have nothing to do with either
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#897 [15:32] * GreyVulpine nods
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#900 [15:37] <justmat> GreyVulpine hey back, for some reason the server is still open ;/
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#903 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi?
#904 [15:38] <justmat> yeah
#905 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't know then.
#906 [15:38] <justmat> GreyVulpine Yeah ok
#907 [15:38] <justmat> GreyVulpine Can you try to help me to set up a game without hamachi?
#908 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> It would involve setting up your router to do port forwarding.
#909 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Are you comfortable with that?
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#911 [15:40] <justmat> GreyVulpine hmm xD I'm not sure
#912 [15:40] <blur> i cant install the update for minecraft...
#913 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Up to you
#914 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> blur - What update?
#915 [15:40] <justmat> GreyVulpine Should we give it a try? Im already sorry for ur time here xD
#916 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> justmat - When you go to cmd -> ipconfig, what was your ipv4 address?
#917 [15:41] <blur> idk, i bought thegame afew weeks ago and it wont let me update
#918 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> What version is it say it's running?
#919 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Does it run at all?
#920 [15:41] <justmat> GreyVulpine just give me a sec ill use bathroom xD so I get comfortable xD be back in sec
#921 [15:42] <blur> where do i check? and it just says unable to install update but i can play if u dont try to install
#922 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> blur - Did you get minecraft from minecraft.net/download?
#923 [15:42] <blur> ya
#924 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> blur - And what happens when you run it?
#925 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a screen with minecraft's update news and a login window?
#926 [15:43] <blur> it runs fine, but before start up it says do u want to update
#927 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#928 [15:43] <blur> and if i update it just says inable and closes out
#929 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> blur - Before logging in, go to the options button above "Login" and press "Force Update"
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#931 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Then Log in as normal.
#932 [15:43] <blur> 1 sec
#933 [15:45] <blur> FAILED TO LAUNCH FAtal error occoured(2) : C:\users\Nicks\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\bin\version (acess is denied)
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#935 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#936 [15:48] <justmat> GreyVulpine Im back sorry about that ;p
#937 [15:49] <justmat> GreyVulpine 192.168.0.2 it is
#938 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> blur - Can you go to C:\users\Nicks\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\ and delete the bin and resource folders, then run minecraft again
#939 [15:50] <blur> k
#940 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Using your browser, open up http://192.168.0.1 and tell me what you see
#941 [15:51] <DiskDaemon> blur: The first suspicion is that some folder permissions are resulting in minecraft not being allowed to access that folder. You can attempt to resolve that by ... thanks GreyVulpine
#942 [15:51] <justmat> GreyVulpine Super Hub | GIU, my Virgin Media provider's loggin page
#943 [15:52] <justmat> GreyVulpine Oh crap ;( I'm not sure that the id/pass is ;/
#944 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to log into that justmat?
#945 [15:52] <blur> greyvulpine, ily no homo it works, thanks guys!
#946 [15:52] <justmat> GreyVulpine I know that there is id and pass on the back of my router but it has been changed by my uncle ;/
#947 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Well then, that's going to be something you'll need to talk to your uncle to get access to.
#948 [15:53] <lutzee> It might still be on the defaults, which will be printed on the back of the router though
#949 [15:53] <justmat> GreyVulpine hmm give me a moment please let me see what I can do
#950 [15:54] <lutzee> oh oops
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#954 [15:58] <hckyplaya> i need help
#955 [15:59] <hckyplaya> why doesn't my right click work in minecraft?
#956 [15:59] <DiskDaemon> Go to the menu options, and try to adjust what is assigned as the use action
#957 [15:59] <hckyplaya> simpler?
#958 [16:00] <DiskDaemon> Because something is broken. Simple enough?
#959 [16:00] <justmat> GreyVulpine IM IN !
#960 [16:00] <hckyplaya> ok what is right click assigned to??
#961 [16:00] <justmat> GreyVulpine hehe are you still there xD?
#962 [16:01] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: Normally to the Use Item action. You can set that up in Options -> Controls
#963 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Go to advanced settings
#964 [16:01] <hckyplaya> got it
#965 [16:01] <hckyplaya> where is advanced settings??
#966 [16:01] <justmat> GreyVulpine yup, and?
#967 [16:01] <DiskDaemon> Why do you want the advanced settings?
#968 [16:01] <hckyplaya> advanced settings?
#969 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Look for "Port Forwarding"
#970 [16:02] <hckyplaya> oh he said something about it
#971 [16:02] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: GreyVulpine is talking to justmat
#972 [16:02] <justmat> GreyVulpine got it
#973 [16:02] <hckyplaya> oh ok
#974 [16:02] <justmat> ;pp
#975 [16:02] <hckyplaya> so where were u?
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#978 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Alright, you're at a page where you can add a rule, right?
#979 [16:03] <justmat> GreyVulpine It looks like it ;p but don't you ask me xD
#980 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Name: Minecraft Server (Can really be anything here)
#981 [16:03] <hckyplaya> yeah
#982 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Start Port: 25565
#983 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> End Port 25565
#984 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Protocol: Minecraft only uses TCP primarily, but you can leave it as TCP/UDP
#985 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> IP address: 192.168.0.2 (Your computer's ipv4 address)
#986 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Then click on Add Rule.
#987 [16:04] <hckyplaya> DiskDaemon??
#988 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: yes?
#989 [16:04] <hckyplaya> how do i get right click to work??
#990 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> hckyplaya - Do you have a mouse with 2 buttons?
#991 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: Are you at the Controls section?
#992 [16:05] <hckyplaya> yeh and ive already tried 2 different mice
#993 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> hckyplaya - Follow DiskDaemon's instructions. Go into Options, then Controls
#994 [16:05] <hckyplaya> i am
#995 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you see, configure keyboard bindings?
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#997 [16:06] <hckyplaya> in minecraft controlls??
#998 [16:06] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: How you set it up in the Controls area is to left-click on the control (that being "Button 2") and to then press the key or the mouse button that you want to associate with that control
#999 [16:07] <hckyplaya> how do i get to control;s
#1000 [16:07] <justmat> GreyVulpine got them all but no the 1st one is that an issue? here is the pic: http://imageshack.us/a/img5/2100/beztytuubzn.png
#1001 [16:07] <DiskDaemon> Main Menu -> Options -> Controls
#1002 [16:07] <hckyplaya> ok im there
#1003 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> justmat - That should be fine, if you can press "Add Rule" and have it show up at the bottom
#1004 [16:08] <Eva> will chunk lag always be a problem in MC?
#1005 [16:08] <justmat> GreyVulpine yup it is
#1006 [16:09] <hckyplaya> disc??
#1007 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Then you should be all set. Got the minecraft server running?
#1008 [16:09] <DiskDaemon> hckyplaya: Apply the advice that I gave just before about BUtton 2
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#1010 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Or leave. Sure.
#1011 [16:09] <hckyplaya> oh got it thx
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#1014 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> justmat - Welcome back. Got the minecraft server running?
#1015 [16:10] <justmat> GreyVulpine got timeout here xD
#1016 [16:10] <justmat> GreyVulpine the ip4 one?
#1017 [16:10] <justmat> GreyVulpine its off, want me to start it?
#1018 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Start the minecraft server
#1019 [16:11] <justmat> GreyVulpine loading up
#1020 [16:11] <justmat> GreyVulpine done, what now?
#1021 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> !check justmat
#1022 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1023 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> ;check justmat
#1024 [16:12] <WugBot> cpc1-scun8-2-0-cust728.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#1025 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Great.
#1026 [16:12] <lutzee> It works :)
#1027 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Now, your friend will use your public ip address to connect to you
#1028 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> You can find out your public ip address using whatismyip.com, or just use:
#1029 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> 62.252.178.217
#1030 [16:13] <justmat> GreyVulpine oh ok let me ask him to try it
#1031 [16:13] <justmat> GreyVulpine brb
#1032 [16:13] <lutzee> It might change at any time though
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#1036 [16:15] <sadgamer> My single player minecraft game no longer saves when I exit. I have stripped the game down and removed it and reinstalled it and still have the exact same problem. It makes minecraft unplayable...how can I fix this?
#1037 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> It no longer saves?
#1038 [16:15] <sadgamer> That is correct.
#1039 [16:15] <justmat> GreyVulpine MAN !! I have to get you a bear
#1040 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> I'll settle for a beer though
#1041 [16:15] <justmat> beer*
#1042 [16:16] <sadgamer> I go into single player. Build a house. Click save and exit. Re enter the game. No house.
#1043 [16:16] <justmat> GreyVulpine yeah xD
#1044 [16:16] <sadgamer> It's aggravating me to no end...
#1045 [16:16] <justmat> GreyVulpine You do get paid for it, right?
#1046 [16:16] <lutzee> sadgamer: are you using a custom launcher?
#1047 [16:16] <sadgamer> No, nothing about my game is not default.
#1048 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> justmat - We're all volunteers here. We are not employed by Mojang, nor do we get paid by them
#1049 [16:16] <DiskDaemon> justmat: The people who help here are volunteers from around the world, who don't get paid a cent.
#1050 [16:16] <sadgamer> It is the standard onboard launcher.
#1051 [16:17] <tikker> could it have to do with write acces? maybe running as admin helps?
#1052 [16:17] <sadgamer> It's breaking my heart a little bit. *tear*
#1053 [16:17] <sadgamer> I am the only user of this computer.
#1054 [16:17] <lutzee> It would be odd that write access is lost from AppData
#1055 [16:17] <DiskDaemon> We love Minecraft and are here to help others enjoy the same thing :)
#1056 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> justmat - But glad we could help. Enjoy.
#1057 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> sadgamer - Does it do this with newly created worlds?
#1058 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Or just that one?
#1059 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> sadgamer: That wouldn't hapent o be on an xbox would it?
#1060 [16:18] <sadgamer> Normally I play with an HD texture. I removed EVERYTHING and reinstalled the game, and it still does the same thing.
#1061 [16:18] <sadgamer> Yes.
#1062 [16:18] <sadgamer> I created four worlds back to back.
#1063 [16:18] <justmat> GreyVulpine Big big thanks for your time and support !
#1064 [16:18] <sadgamer> And it does the exact same thing.
#1065 [16:18] * GreyVulpine tips hat to justmat.
#1065 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> sadgamer: Yes, this saving trouble is an xbox issue?
#1066 [16:18] <sadgamer> No
#1067 [16:18] <sadgamer> PC
#1068 [16:18] <sadgamer> Sorry, I should have mentioned that.
#1069 [16:19] <sadgamer> I'm not really computer illiterate, but not amazing. But I am at a total loss here.
#1070 [16:19] <DiskDaemon> That helps to simplify things then - I would suggest making a backup of .minecraft/ and then delete the folder entirely. And have the minecraft launcher recreate it with the right permissions.
#1071 [16:19] <justmat> GreyVulpine Oh let me play some ! im AFK poke or whisper if need me will check every so offten
#1072 [16:19] <sadgamer> I did already Disk.
#1073 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> sadgamer - You've redownloaded the launcher as well as delete the .minecraft folder?
#1074 [16:20] <sadgamer> That is correct.
#1075 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> Is there any space free on the hard drive?
#1076 [16:20] <sadgamer> I deleted the bin folder, and launched it. Fail. I deleted the entire .minecraft folder and reinstalled. Fail.
#1077 [16:20] * DiskDaemon just getting the obvious out of the way first
#1077 [16:20] <sadgamer> Understood, and appreciated.
#1078 [16:20] <sadgamer> Yes.
#1079 [16:21] <sadgamer> There is.
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#1081 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a permissions issue. Do you have admin rights?
#1082 [16:21] <sadgamer> You're aware this is single player, right?
#1083 [16:21] <tikker> like i said :) try running it as admin
#1084 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> Ooh hang on - there's a crash report that might reveal something, when the save attempt fails to occur
#1085 [16:21] <sadgamer> I didn't know permissions was an issue with single player minecraft.
#1086 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1087 [16:22] <sadgamer> There are 70 gigs of free space on my hard drive
#1088 [16:22] <tikker> well taht would certainly be enough :)
#1089 [16:22] <sadgamer> Do you want me to recreate the problem and post the results here?
#1090 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> When you have that log from when attempting to save, you can put it up to pastebin for us to take a look at
#1091 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> ??> sadgamer pastebin
#1092 [16:22] <VoxelHead> sadgamer: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1093 [16:22] <tikker> well, there is that WoW world of 20GB
#1094 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> sadgamer: yes thanks
#1095 [16:23] <sadgamer> okay, let me give it a shot
#1096 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> Since information is lacking on the issue, getting more information seems to be a rational course of action
#1097 [16:24] <sadgamer> Makes sense to me.
#1098 [16:24] <tikker> i've never heard of this problem before
#1099 [16:24] <sadgamer> Oh it's there. Other people have mentioned it in forums. But nobody has a solution. They're saying it's because of mojang making the single player a "server" situation?
#1100 [16:25] <tikker> well server situation is true
#1101 [16:25] <tikker> single player is now more server like
#1102 [16:25] <tikker> they 'merged' it so they didn't have to update twice
#1103 [16:25] * GreyVulpine needs to launch minecraft again, hasn't done so in months.
#1103 [16:25] <sadgamer> Hey Disk, this information seems to be related to Minecraft actually crashing.
#1104 [16:25] <tikker> share? :)
#1105 [16:25] <sadgamer> My game isn't crashing, does that not matter?
#1106 [16:26] <tikker> oh
#1107 [16:26] <tikker> there can still be some sort of 'crash' during saving
#1108 [16:26] <DiskDaemon> tikker: It used to happen with the Aether because they had the menu background as the world you were last playing, and made it not save for when creepers blew up. The trouble came when going to Singleplayer and them pressing Esc. That would take you in to that menu background game and you couldn't save in there. Rare, but with some mods it can happen.
#1109 [16:26] <tikker> not nescesarily game-crashing
#1110 [16:26] <DiskDaemon> That doesn't seem to be the situation in this particular case though
#1111 [16:27] <tikker> i doubt it XD
#1112 [16:27] <sadgamer> Yeah I have no mods. Totally default.
#1113 [16:30] <sadgamer> Hrm...
#1114 [16:30] <sadgamer> does it matter where I create the .bat file?
#1115 [16:30] <sadgamer> Because I'm doing what it says and launching it and it's not finding the launcher, I think....
#1116 [16:30] <DiskDaemon> Normally in the same folder as the minecraft.exe file is best
#1117 [16:30] <sadgamer> the .jar file?
#1118 [16:30] <sadgamer> oooh
#1119 [16:30] <DiskDaemon> The minecraft.exe file that is the Minecraft launcher.
#1120 [16:30] <sadgamer> Is that in the appdata file?
#1121 [16:30] <DiskDaemon> I don't know where you put it.
#1122 [16:31] <sadgamer> I have no idea where it installs the launcher by default.
#1123 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> It's the file that you download from minecraft.net/download
#1124 [16:31] <tikker> someone on the forums claims to have a fix for it
#1125 [16:31] <tikker> by running minecraft in compatability mode
#1126 [16:31] <sadgamer> oooh
#1127 [16:31] <sadgamer> okay
#1128 [16:32] <tikker> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1457886-minecraft-132-worlds-not-saving/
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#1130 [16:33] <DiskDaemon> Good spotting there. I would like to see what the error log has to say before fixing the issue, in case something can be learned about things from that too
#1131 [16:33] <tikker> indeed
#1132 [16:33] <tikker> sadgamer would you mind taking the error log first? :)
#1133 [16:34] <tikker> well, i have to go unfortunately, let me know how things went :)
#1134 [16:36] <sadgamer> it's choking the hell out of my computer
#1135 [16:36] <sadgamer> lol
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#1139 [16:42] <tomtomtom289> hello. Ever since I migrated my account I have not been able to sign in
#1140 [16:43] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: Are you using your username/pass to log in?
#1141 [16:43] <lutzee> tomtomtom289: you need to use your email to log in, not your username.
#1142 [16:43] <tomtomtom289> I have
#1143 [16:43] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: That's the problem. Migrated accounts need to use email/pass now to log in with.
#1144 [16:43] <tomtomtom289> I am using my email and password
#1145 [16:43] <tomtomtom289> Its just gone wrong somewhere
#1146 [16:43] <DiskDaemon> Then reset your password
#1147 [16:44] <tomtomtom289> I did not get a migration email either
#1148 [16:44] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: Check the spam traps
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#1152 [16:46] <tomtomtom289> I have reset my password but when it says that my email is invalid
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#1154 [16:46] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289`: Are you resetting your password on minecraft.net ?
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#1156 [16:47] <tomtomtom289> yes
#1157 [16:47] <clay> I have a question
#1158 [16:47] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: But it's mojang.com that your account has now migrated to. Don't use minecraft.net to work with your account - use mojang.com
#1159 [16:47] <clay> Can i ask somebody a question.
#1160 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> You can, clay.
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#1162 [16:48] <clay> Okay, well i just bought a Pre-Paid Card for Minecraft and it says my account is not premium
#1163 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you redeem your code using your mojang account at: https://account.mojang.com/ ?
#1164 [16:49] <clay> Yes.
#1165 [16:49] <tomtomtom289> Then it says that my user is not premium
#1166 [16:50] <clay> yes
#1167 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: What is your username?
#1168 [16:50] <tomtomtom289> tomtomtom289
#1169 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> !paid tomtomtom289
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#1171 [16:50] <tomtomtom289> What email did I use maybe?
#1172 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> clay - Try doing a http://minecraft.net/retrievename on the email address you use. It should send back an email with the username that's tied with the account, as well as whether or not it's premium
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#1174 [16:51] <tomtomtom289> Can you tell me what email I linked my account too? tomtomtom289
#1175 [16:51] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: We have no way to tell what email you used. We don't work for mojang.
#1176 [16:51] <tomtomtom289> oooo
#1177 [16:52] <sadgamer> Aright, Disk.
#1178 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: We are random people from around the world who love minecraft. We volunteer our time helping others to do the same thing.
#1179 [16:52] <sadgamer> I couldn't recreate the problem...
#1180 [16:52] <sadgamer> I'll pastebin the log for you though
#1181 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#1182 [16:52] <tomtomtom289> Do you know a support phone number
#1183 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> You can contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1184 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: No, but you can contact Mojang from the link at the end of http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#1185 [16:53] <sadgamer> http://mibpaste.com/djFTNF
#1186 [16:53] <tomtomtom289> ok then I will try that many thanks :)
#1187 [16:53] <sadgamer> Doesn't seem very useful, but I don't know what the heck that is...
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#1189 [16:53] <sadgamer> so...it's all you.
#1190 [16:53] <DiskDaemon> tomtomtom289: Please be sure to include the transaction id when you contact them. It helps them to confirm that it's you who owns the account, and not someone else trying to take it over instead
#1191 [16:54] <sadgamer> Do you think that compatibility mode thing is reasonable?
#1192 [16:54] <DiskDaemon> sadgamer: memory connection overburdened - that's an interesting error
#1193 [16:54] <clay> OkaGrey, it says my Login Failed
#1194 [16:54] <sadgamer> Perhaps to you, to me, all it means is I can't play minecraft. :(
#1195 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means you're putting in your username/password in incorrectly
#1196 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Try retyping it. If that doesn't work, reset it
#1197 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1198 [16:55] <sadgamer> The compatibility thing is vouched for, if that gives you a hint as to what the problem actually is.
#1199 [16:56] <clay> Now it says im not premium but in the Email it says i am
#1200 [16:56] <DiskDaemon> Sure, give the compatibility thing a try and let us know how things go
#1201 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Strange... why is it deleting the world's data..
#1202 [16:56] <sadgamer> I just don't know. The thing is autosave definitely works, but if autosave doesn't work and I just exit the game via Save & Quit it doesn't save what I just built.
#1203 [16:56] <clay> I don't know but i want this fixed
#1204 [16:57] <clay> i spent 30 dollars on something that doesn't work.
#1205 [16:57] <sadgamer> And when I tried to make the log the game lagged so freakin' hard that the game could very well have autosaved before I actually quit out.
#1206 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> clay: We are not the mojang complaints department - but there are some things that the volunteers here can help you with
#1207 [16:57] <clay> help me then
#1208 [16:58] <DiskDaemon> clay: GreyVulpine is attempting to
#1209 [16:58] <clay> i know this
#1210 [16:58] <sadgamer> So you want me to take a crack at the compatibility and let you know how it worked out?
#1211 [16:58] <sadgamer> I wish I could get you more information so you could help anyone who comes in the future with the problem. But it just chokes my computer to death.
#1212 [16:59] <sadgamer> I don't know what the memory thing is about, but my harddrive has tons of spac.e
#1213 [16:59] <sadgamer> *space.
#1214 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> clay - Did you do a "Forgot username" on the email, and it gives back an email stating that account is premium?
#1215 [16:59] <clay> Yes
#1216 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> clay - Then you'll need to contact Mojang directly through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1217 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> They're the only one who can straighten out your account issue for you.
#1218 [17:00] <clay> thanks
#1219 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> clay: You can expect a two weeks delay before they work on your email. They're catching up from a 3 month delay.
#1220 [17:01] <sadgamer> Maybe it's a caps issue with clay? I don't know if it's cap sensitive...?
#1221 [17:01] <clay> Its not
#1222 [17:02] <sadgamer> Okay, just takin' a stab.
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#1224 [17:03] <Rayndum> I need some help adding client mods to a mac version of mc.
#1225 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: Sorry, we don't provide modding help here
#1226 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Bleh..
#1227 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> sadgamer: May we get some info about your system too?
#1228 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> ??> sadgamer win/dxdiag
#1229 [17:04] <VoxelHead> sadgamer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1230 [17:04] <VoxelHead> sadgamer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1231 [17:04] <Rayndum> UGH..
#1232 [17:04] <Rayndum> So who does provide help?
#1233 [17:04] <sadgamer> Google?
#1234 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: The forum that provides the mod, normally.
#1235 [17:04] <Rayndum> -facedesk-
#1236 [17:04] <Rayndum> Let me just ask one question then.
#1237 [17:04] <DiskDaemon> Then there is also, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods#How_to_install_mods
#1238 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Mac does this funny thing with .zip files, that screws it all up. I hate trying to help people mod minecraft on macs.
#1239 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Macs try to create a MACOSX_ top level folder on a .zip, that it doesn't display to normal users. And to a user on mac, it doesn't display it.
#1240 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> But if you try opening the folder in any other OS, you can see how it screws it up.
#1241 [17:06] <Rayndum> And how do you stop it?
#1242 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> I haven't found a way. Is why I hate modding on macs.. Also don't have a mac.
#1243 [17:06] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: This is why we don't provide mod support here.
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#1246 [17:06] <Rayndum> I understand the difficulty of it.
#1247 [17:06] <Rayndum> I have completely no experience with macs myself.
#1248 [17:07] <Rayndum> And I'm going into his computer through teamviewer, looking at stuff like
#1249 [17:07] <Rayndum> Why is it so stupidly complicated
#1250 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: This IRC channel is for the pure, unadulterated version of Minecraft. Otherwise known of as vanilla Minecraft. No mods here please.
#1251 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> It's a pain in the butt to do. I'd almost go ahead and mod it on windows/linux, and move it over to the mac computer when finished.
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#1253 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Google/forums have much more detailed walkthroughs of how to mod minecraft on macs
#1254 [17:09] <Rayndum> Wait wait.
#1255 [17:09] <Rayndum> Grey, pvt please?
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#1257 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#1258 [17:09] <Rayndum> I don't want to aggravate Disk any further by spamming up the chat in here with the convo.
#1259 [17:10] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: You're also trying to hold a conversation with someone (GreyVulpine) who doesn't want anything to do with modding macs :)
#1260 [17:10] <Rayndum> Ah, okay..
#1261 [17:10] <Rayndum> Eh, I won't bother you guys then. Seeya.
#1262 [17:10] <Rayndum> Eh, I won't bother you guys then. Seeya.
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#1264 [17:10] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: We have pointed you to where to get help, the mod forum. We have also directed you to resources ... dammit
#1265 [17:10] <DiskDaemon> Rayndum: We have pointed you to where to get help, the mod forum. We have also directed you to resources ... dammit
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#1267 [17:10] * GreyVulpine pats DiskDaemon on the back.
#1267 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> I got your back :)
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#1270 [17:14] <semihappygamer> Wanted to come back and say the compatibility swap appears to have worked.
#1271 [17:14] <semihappygamer> Of course for some unknown reason the game lags like whoa now...
#1272 [17:14] <semihappygamer> but at least it saves.
#1273 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> May we see some system specs?
#1274 [17:14] <semihappygamer> So thank you.
#1275 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> semihappygamer win/dxdiag
#1276 [17:14] <VoxelHead> semihappygamer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1277 [17:14] <VoxelHead> semihappygamer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1279 [17:15] <semihappygamer> oh it's a laptop...it's garbage...
#1280 [17:16] <semihappygamer> I've been juuuust keeping this thing alive for like 6 years, it always has dirty volumes, blahblah.
#1281 [17:16] <semihappygamer> I don't think it's a minecraft problem.
#1282 [17:16] <semihappygamer> Or a directX problem. But i'll do it anyway.
#1283 [17:16] <semihappygamer> Rather, I'm doing it anyway. lol
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#1285 [17:18] <semihappygamer> It just locks up...
#1286 [17:18] <semihappygamer> it's totally frozen.
#1287 [17:19] <semihappygamer> There was a problem accessing Direct3D
#1288 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> It may help to not have Minecraft running when using dxdiag
#1289 [17:19] <semihappygamer> would I like to skip it this time?
#1290 [17:19] <semihappygamer> I don't have anything else running except this window
#1291 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> okay, yes skip that part
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#1294 [17:21] <semihappygamer> Too large for pastebin
#1295 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> try paste.ubuntu.com
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#1298 [17:22] <semihappygamer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1296157/
#1299 [17:22] <semihappygamer> Does that work?
#1300 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> yes thanks
#1301 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: Your laptop has 894 megs of memory.
#1302 [17:23] <semihappygamer> I'm almost positive you're gonna tell me to throw this laptop in the garbage. lol
#1303 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> It. er, wow.
#1304 [17:23] <semihappygamer> ?
#1305 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Kinda surprised minecraft ran at all on that.
#1306 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: the minimum is reported to be 2 gigs for Minecraft http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1307 [17:24] <semihappygamer> 894 megs of what type of memory?
#1308 [17:24] <lutzee> RAM
#1309 [17:24] <semihappygamer> as in not what's on my harddrive?
#1310 [17:24] <semihappygamer> ahhh
#1311 [17:24] <lutzee> Random access memory
#1312 [17:24] <semihappygamer> So...I'm screwed? lol
#1313 [17:24] <semihappygamer> It runs minecraft, and normally it runs it okay.
#1314 [17:24] <semihappygamer> But lately it's been getting worse and worse.
#1315 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: You have done well to even get the game going. But it's time for a hardware upgrade.
#1316 [17:24] <semihappygamer> I also run it with a whompin' HD texture pack.
#1317 [17:25] <lutzee> I'm surprised you can put up with the laptop in general, it must take like 10 minutes to turn on
#1318 [17:25] <semihappygamer> Naw
#1319 [17:25] <semihappygamer> 4 minute boot time last time I checked.
#1320 [17:25] <semihappygamer> It's a trooper.
#1321 [17:25] <semihappygamer> And I keep it clean.
#1322 [17:25] <semihappygamer> But the reason for that is because I can't afford anything else.
#1323 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: All that hard drive access that you've been noticing is due to the computer using lots of the hard drive as extra memory. It's fucking slow, but it works
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#1326 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> whoops :)
#1327 [17:26] <semihappygamer> lawl
#1328 [17:26] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1328 [17:26] <semihappygamer> I had to backspace a couple times myself when describing my problem...I wondered what happened when you dropped the Fbomb...
#1329 [17:27] * lutzee has to be careful when ranting about things in here
#1329 [17:27] <semihappygamer> Okay, so running this laptop, can I change any settings that might help minecraft run better?
#1330 [17:27] <semihappygamer> Yeah ditto, I've been keeping my typing clean just for being in here...it's not easy...I'm usually baaaaad...
#1331 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: There's a long list, but each item only provides a tiny improvement http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#1332 [17:28] <semihappygamer> Oh no...
#1333 [17:28] <semihappygamer> I can't get rid of the HD texture pack! No!!! lol
#1334 [17:28] <semihappygamer> I'm so spoiled...
#1335 [17:28] <semihappygamer> going to default makes my brain hurt...
#1336 [17:28] <lutzee> wait
#1337 [17:28] <lutzee> You got a HD texturepack working on it too? o.o
#1338 [17:28] <semihappygamer> Yeah
#1339 [17:28] <lutzee> H-h-how?
#1340 [17:28] <semihappygamer> I swear...today is the first time I had a serious problem playing.
#1341 [17:29] <semihappygamer> And multiplayer it runs even BETTER.
#1342 [17:29] <semihappygamer> Isn't that odd?
#1343 [17:29] <semihappygamer> Well, multiplayer on my server that is.
#1344 [17:29] <lutzee> Multiplayer it runs better because its not having to process the world updates all the time
#1345 [17:29] <semihappygamer> On the others that are freakin' crazy with garbage it doesn't run so well.
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#1347 [17:30] <semihappygamer> ahhhh, good point
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#1349 [17:31] <lutzee> btw, you can probably buy a cheap PC off the intertnet that will be newer than your current laptop :p
#1350 [17:31] <semihappygamer> Suggestions?
#1351 [17:31] <semihappygamer> I have money saved for a guitar...but I have plenty of those...
#1352 [17:31] <lutzee> Take a browse on ebay
#1353 [17:31] <semihappygamer> Eesh....Ebay=Satan
#1354 [17:31] <semihappygamer> lol
#1355 [17:31] <semihappygamer> sorry
#1356 [17:32] <semihappygamer> I used to work for an ebay company. Bad news.
#1357 [17:32] <semihappygamer> Well anyway, thank you for all your help.
#1358 [17:32] <semihappygamer> Please tell Tikker (I think that was him) thank you as well if you see him on?
#1359 [17:33] <semihappygamer> I'll keep minecrafting as long as I can keep this thing alive! :)
#1360 [17:33] <semihappygamer> (What's funny is I bought this laptop specifically to play Warcraft.) :P Fail.
#1361 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> semihappygamer: Try to apply as many of those performance tips as you can from that guide too, they're worth it
#1362 [17:33] <semihappygamer> Oh I will.
#1363 [17:33] <semihappygamer> But I can't sacrifice the HD pack
#1364 [17:33] <semihappygamer> That's my only luxury
#1365 [17:34] <semihappygamer> But I will see what can be done.
#1366 [17:34] <semihappygamer> I haven't been murdering processes like I usually do before I start playing too.
#1367 [17:34] <semihappygamer> So that could be part of it.
#1368 [17:34] <semihappygamer> Thank you all. :)
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#1370 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> It may also be feasible to setup a linux partition on there, which tends to be less demanding on the system hardware
#1371 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> feh
#1372 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> That man has my respect :)
#1373 [17:40] <NinjaKirby> Everything went better then expected
#1374 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> And now we have an answer for the "Memory connection overburdened" issue :)
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#1385 [18:08] <justmat> GreyVulpine Im off thx again and cya laters
#1386 [18:08] <justmat> Bye all ! hf gl
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#1388 [18:10] <DiskDaemon> http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/11ugyr/til_percussive_maintenance_is_the_technical_term/ for hitting something until it works.
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#1397 [18:34] <cluch22> it said i didnt buy minecraft
#1398 [18:35] <cluch22> why
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#1401 [18:38] <YoshiPatel> Hello?
#1402 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> There are 152 other people in this channel - please state your problem
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#1405 [18:41] <YoshiPatel> I have a bug about the nether portal. I only have one portal and when I leave the nether, another portal regenerate around my home. Is this a bug or Herobrine?
#1406 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> There is no herobrine
#1407 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> If the Overworld portal is too far away from the Nether portal, a new one will be generated
#1408 [18:42] <YoshiPatel> Ok but is it a bug?
#1409 [18:43] <YoshiPatel> I don't understand I only have one portal
#1410 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> No, it is not a bug - it's just a lack of understanding on your part about how the portals work
#1411 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal
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#1413 [18:44] <YoshiPatel> How do I fix?
#1414 [18:44] <TheGamerGuy500> Skin problem
#1415 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> TheGamerGuy500: GO to http://help.mojang.com/
#1416 [18:44] <TheGamerGuy500> What's the site for viewing skins again?
#1417 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> TheGamerGuy500: The skins service is currently down
#1418 [18:44] <TheGamerGuy500> oop
#1419 [18:44] <TheGamerGuy500> k
#1420 [18:45] <TheGamerGuy500> Thanks :)
#1421 [18:45] <TheGamerGuy500> (I'm glad this time someone actually helped)
#1422 [18:45] <TheGamerGuy500> Good day to you.
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#1424 [18:45] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPatel: You "fix" it by bring either the Nether portal closer to where the Overworld portal is, or the other way around
#1425 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPatel: See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal#Implications
#1426 [18:47] <YoshiPatel> I don't know where they are both located so how do I move them closer
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#1429 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> If the unwanted Overworld portal is to the West of where you have the portal that you want to use, move the Nether portal further to the East
#1430 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPatel: What are the coordinates of the Overworld portal that you want to use, and the coordinates of your Nether portal?
#1431 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPatel: Divide the overworld X/Z portal coordinates by 8, and build the Nether portal at that location
#1432 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> I can't scroll down so I will spam for a sec
#1433 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> G
#1434 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPatel: Please don't spam.
#1435 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> G
#1436 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> G
#1437 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> G
#1438 [18:50] <YoshiPatel> G
#1439 [18:50] * DiskDaemon kicked YoshiPatel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oshiPatel :YoshiPatel)
#1440 [18:52] <NinjaKirby> You think you've seen everything, till you've visited Esper.
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#1444 [19:00] <Eddie> Well well.
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#1451 [19:09] <TheGamerGuy500> >skins not working
#1452 [19:09] <TheGamerGuy500> >Post about it on your site
#1453 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> Correct. Give the man a prize.
#1454 [19:09] <TheGamerGuy500> >Don't do crap about it afterwards
#1455 [19:09] <TheGamerGuy500> XD
#1456 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> TheGamerGuy500: We are not Mojang. Please remember that.
#1457 [19:10] <TheGamerGuy500> Ik
#1458 [19:10] <TheGamerGuy500> Just pointing out the irony
#1459 [19:10] <TheGamerGuy500> GET IT? IRONy?
#1460 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> TheGamerGuy500: So please don't tell us to post about it on the site :)
#1461 [19:10] <FLHerne> TBH, I am unimpressed by Mojang's non-reaction to the server issues.
#1462 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> TheGamerGuy500: At the help.mojang.com page you can see clearly in red that the service is down
#1463 [19:11] <TheGamerGuy500> Implying they find out the skins aren't working, they know about it and post about it on mojang.com, and simply not do crap about it after they post about it
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#1465 [19:11] <FLHerne> It's been a couple of months now, if they can't fix it, they should just find another provider
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#1467 [19:12] <TheGamerGuy500> Like their own website...
#1468 [19:12] <TheGamerGuy500> skins.minecraft.net?
#1469 [19:12] <Borrisio> Hi, I am having trouble connecting to a minecraft server with the port 25566.
#1470 [19:12] <TheGamerGuy500> the port is maxed out from what I see
#1471 [19:12] <TheGamerGuy500> did you use a semicolon?
#1472 [19:12] <Borrisio> Yes
#1473 [19:13] <Borrisio> What do you mean it's maxed out
#1474 [19:13] <TheGamerGuy500> Use a regular colon
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#1476 [19:13] <Borrisio> wait you mean : ?
#1477 [19:13] <TheGamerGuy500> 255 is the max number, from what I've heard
#1478 [19:13] <Borrisio> i use :
#1479 [19:13] <FLHerne> TheGamerGuy500: Max no. of what?
#1480 [19:13] <TheGamerGuy500> That is correct
#1481 [19:13] <TheGamerGuy500> What error does it give you?
#1482 [19:13] <Borrisio> Operation timed out.
#1483 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> It's the server
#1484 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> definitely the server
#1485 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> oh and don't try changing your skin either
#1486 [19:14] <Borrisio> Are you sure? It's on a machine
#1487 [19:14] <Borrisio> And okay
#1488 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> that's been screwed as well
#1489 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> ._.
#1490 [19:14] <Borrisio> But other people can connect to it...
#1491 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> A machine...
#1492 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> Is it maxed on players?
#1493 [19:14] <Borrisio> No, it can hold 200 lol
#1494 [19:14] <TheGamerGuy500> or it must be your internet
#1495 [19:15] <Borrisio> I've tried opening the prot
#1496 [19:15] <TheGamerGuy500> your internet is trying to connect but the server's like ".............."
#1497 [19:15] <Borrisio> port
#1498 [19:15] <Borrisio> So any solutions?
#1499 [19:16] <TheGamerGuy500> Well your internet must be trying to connect and the server's like "....." and eventually your computer gives up trying to connect
#1500 [19:16] <Borrisio> So is it my internet or the server?
#1501 [19:17] <TheGamerGuy500> Maybe both....
#1502 [19:17] <Borrisio> Oh god
#1503 [19:17] <TheGamerGuy500> Use another avilable port
#1504 [19:17] <TheGamerGuy500> or ise the direct IP
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#1506 [19:18] <Borrisio> How do you do that?
#1507 [19:19] <TheGamerGuy500> if it's a server like mcctf.com:25566
#1508 [19:19] <TheGamerGuy500> there should be an IP you could alternatively connect to
#1509 [19:19] <Borrisio> No it's 5.39.64.168:25566
#1510 [19:19] <TheGamerGuy500> That's the direct IP
#1511 [19:20] <TheGamerGuy500> hmm
#1512 [19:20] <TheGamerGuy500> Imma try connecting to it
#1513 [19:20] <Borrisio> Kk.
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#1515 [19:21] <TheGamerGuy500> Borrisio: is this your minecraft name?
#1516 [19:21] <TheGamerGuy500> Have you connected to this erver before?
#1517 [19:21] <Borrisio> Yes
#1518 [19:21] <Borrisio> On my laptop
#1519 [19:22] <Borrisio> But not this computer.
#1520 [19:22] <TheGamerGuy500> Is this your MC name
#1521 [19:22] <TheGamerGuy500> Borrisio
#1522 [19:22] <Borrisio> borrisio is
#1523 [19:22] <Borrisio> yes
#1524 [19:22] <TheGamerGuy500> Ok
#1525 [19:22] <Borrisio> lowercase B
#1526 [19:22] <TheGamerGuy500> I've informed them of the situation
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#1529 [19:23] <Borrisio> Yeah I know the owner personally, and I told him.
#1530 [19:23] <Borrisio> But he doesn't know either.
#1531 [19:23] <TheGamerGuy500> BING
#1532 [19:23] <TheGamerGuy500> I have a conclusion
#1533 [19:23] <Borrisio> Huh
#1534 [19:24] <TheGamerGuy500> Fix your internet .-.
#1535 [19:24] <Borrisio> What do you mean fix my internet… -.-
#1536 [19:24] <TheGamerGuy500> Erm
#1537 [19:24] <Borrisio> I can connect on my laptop.
#1538 [19:24] <TheGamerGuy500> Make sure it's not being blocked or used by a buttload of people (if you have a wifi router or such)
#1539 [19:25] <Borrisio> It isn't my internet because I can connect on my laptop..
#1540 [19:25] <Borrisio> Just not on my Mac.
#1541 [19:25] <TheGamerGuy500> it has to be your computer
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#1543 [19:25] <TheGamerGuy500> mac
#1544 [19:26] <Borrisio> How could it be my computer...
#1545 [19:26] <TheGamerGuy500> If you can connect with laptop
#1546 [19:26] <TheGamerGuy500> it's not your internet
#1547 [19:26] <Borrisio> Yeah but what could be wrong...
#1548 [19:26] <TheGamerGuy500> if you get the timeout error
#1549 [19:26] <TheGamerGuy500> it has to be the computer itself communicating with the server
#1550 [19:27] <Borrisio> Like firewall-wise?
#1551 [19:27] <TheGamerGuy500> yeah that type of stuff
#1552 [19:27] <Borrisio> Yeah idk I've tried disabling my firewall
#1553 [19:27] <Borrisio> still doesnt work
#1554 [19:30] <Borrisio> No idea?
#1555 [19:32] <TheGamerGuy500> (I have officially ran outta ideas)
#1556 [19:32] <TheGamerGuy500> Just restart your pc XD
#1557 [19:32] <TheGamerGuy500> and pray that it works
#1558 [19:33] <Borrisio> Well I have officially fooled you lol
#1559 [19:33] <Borrisio> Tried that, but thanks for your help anyways.
#1560 [19:35] <TheGamerGuy500> ok
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#1563 [19:49] <N9NU> does this channel offer support for us Linux users RE: installation
#1564 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1565 [19:50] <N9NU> thank you. i dont run Ubuntu.....rather Mageia and was wondering do i or should i run the OpenJDK package from out repos or the OEM jdk from Sun directly
#1566 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> I have no knowledge in regard to such things, but others here might
#1567 [19:51] <N9NU> okay...i dont mind hanging around..i can wait
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#1580 [20:27] <Doctorwheauxdat> any of you guys modders?
#1581 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don't deal with modding here
#1582 [20:28] <Doctorwheauxdat> could you tell me where i would need to go?
#1583 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> If you want to discuss mods, go to #direwolf20 - to develop mods see #risucraft - to get help with mods go to the forum page for that particular mod
#1584 [20:28] <Doctorwheauxdat> thank you
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#1600 [21:14] <imbackyacunts> Hello
#1601 [21:16] <Yerg> Please change your nick. It's kinda offensive.
#1602 [21:16] * VoxelHead kicked imbackyacunts from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mbackyacunts :Banned)
#1603 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> Someone who deliberately chooses to be offensive doesn't belong here
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#1605 [21:18] <baileyjones> I cannot access my account
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#1608 [21:21] <baileyjones> can you help me?
#1609 [21:21] <baileyjones> I was able to log in and play earlier today.
#1610 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> And what happens now?
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#1612 [21:22] <Shzylo> hello
#1613 [21:22] <Shzylo> how do i contact mojang via email to resolve a problem w/ an account?
#1614 [21:22] <baileyjones> But later I was unable to log in and it said my account had been migrated
#1615 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1616 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you include your transaction ID
#1617 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> baileyjones - Did you migrate your account?
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#1620 [21:23] <baileyjones> I did not migrate my account
#1621 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> baileyjones - Then you're going to need to contact Mojang as well. Your account may have been compromised and somebody else has access to it.
#1622 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Please submit a ticket via: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1623 [21:23] <baileyjones> How can I fix this.
#1624 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Ensure you include your transaction ID from your receipt as proof of purchase
#1625 [21:24] <baileyjones> The transaction id from when I first purchased the game 3 years ago???
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#1627 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1628 [21:25] <baileyjones> what if I don't have that???
#1629 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need that, as proof of purchase for Mojang.
#1630 [21:26] <baileyjones> okay, I will log into my paypal account and try to find it there.
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#1635 [21:36] <baileyjones> I have an email confirmation from moneybookers for 21.95 but it doesn't have a transaction id
#1636 [21:36] <baileyjones> I didn't pay with paypal. I paid with mastercard.
#1637 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> baileyjones: You have a receipt for the transaction. It seems that the transaction may not have been successful through.
#1638 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> baileyjones: Contact your bank to find out more about the transaction. You may need to authorize it.
#1639 [21:39] <baileyjones> I found the transaction id email
#1640 [21:39] <baileyjones> So all I need to do is fill out the ticket and have someone reset me?
#1641 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1642 [21:41] <baileyjones> okay I submitted it. How long does it normally take?
#1643 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1652 [21:49] <ekim1912> Can anyone help me?
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#1654 [21:49] <ekim1912> Hello
#1655 [21:50] <ekim1912> please?
#1656 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912: perhaps
#1657 [21:50] <lutzee> Explain your problem
#1658 [21:50] <ekim1912> uhh
#1659 [21:50] <ekim1912> i cant
#1660 [21:50] <ekim1912> download minecraft
#1661 [21:50] <ekim1912> it says it cannot create the java virtual machine
#1662 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> So you can download minecraft - but your computer system is not properly set up to run it
#1663 [21:52] <ekim1912> no
#1664 [21:52] <ekim1912> when i try to download it
#1665 [21:52] <ekim1912> from the website
#1666 [21:52] <ekim1912> it says java virtual machine could not be created
#1667 [21:53] <lutzee> You have downloaded it fine, but the execution fails due to your PC not being set up correctly to run it.
#1668 [21:54] <ekim1912> how do i fix that?
#1669 [21:54] <ekim1912> i just want to play the walls......
#1670 [21:54] <ekim1912> i heard it was fun
#1671 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> ekim1912 win/dxdiag
#1672 [21:54] <VoxelHead> ekim1912: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1673 [21:54] <VoxelHead> ekim1912: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1674 [21:55] <ekim1912> ok
#1675 [21:55] <ekim1912> please give me a few minutes
#1676 [21:56] <ekim1912> How do i know if it prompted about vertifying WGQL
#1677 [21:56] <ekim1912> WHQL
#1678 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> If it doesn't prompt you, then it didn't
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#1680 [21:56] <ekim1912> ok
#1681 [21:57] <ekim1912> then what do i do?
#1682 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
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#1686 [22:00] <ekim1912> ok
#1687 [22:00] <ekim1912> i posted on paste bin
#1688 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> good, finish following VoxelHead's instructions
#1689 [22:01] <ekim1912> oh
#1690 [22:01] <ekim1912> can you post it again
#1691 [22:01] <ekim1912> ?
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#1693 [22:01] <lukegb> ??> ekim1912 win/dxdiag
#1694 [22:01] <VoxelHead> ekim1912: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1695 [22:01] <ekim1912> i accidently logged out
#1696 [22:01] <VoxelHead> ekim1912: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1697 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> The scrollbar exists for a purpose
#1698 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, logging out can be a problem
#1699 [22:01] <ekim1912> http://pastebin.com/RXXLePQR
#1700 [22:01] <ekim1912> ok
#1701 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Okay, it a computer that's near the minimum requirements, but that doesn't seem to be all that significant at this stage
#1702 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912: Let's see what the crash report has to say.
#1703 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1706 [22:03] <ekim1912> i sorry
#1707 [22:03] <ekim1912> i logged out again
#1708 [22:03] <ekim1912> by accident
#1709 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> Please control yourself
#1710 [22:03] <ekim1912> when
#1711 [22:03] <ekim1912> i click on the links it sends me to a new page
#1712 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> At all times would be appreciated.
#1713 [22:04] <ekim1912> but on the same tab
#1714 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> You can right-click on a link and choose to open it in a new tab
#1715 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Or you can ctrl-click on a link
#1716 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Or you can stop using a web brower to interface with IRC. There are proper clients for that sort of thing.
#1717 [22:04] <ekim1912> yes but i keep on fogrting
#1718 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> The options are near endless
#1719 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1722 [22:06] <ekim1912_> What do i do after
#1723 [22:06] <ekim1912_> ?
#1724 [22:06] <ekim1912_> i get on the page?
#1725 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> You read and follow the instructions.
#1726 [22:07] <ekim1912_> Everything?
#1727 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> How much time do you have?
#1728 [22:07] <ekim1912_> Uhh
#1729 [22:07] <ekim1912_> About 30 mins
#1730 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> You might want to get started shortly then
#1731 [22:07] <ekim1912_> ok
#1732 [22:09] <ekim1912_> how do i choose open comman window here?
#1733 [22:09] <ekim1912_> i shift and right click
#1734 [22:09] <ekim1912_> but
#1735 [22:09] <ekim1912_> i cant find the option
#1736 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> It must be with no files currently selected
#1737 [22:10] <ekim1912_> Wait
#1738 [22:10] <ekim1912_> then
#1739 [22:10] <ekim1912_> so i cant have any files opened?
#1740 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> incorrect
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#1742 [22:10] <ekim1912_> But
#1743 [22:11] <ekim1912_> i left clicked the window screen
#1744 [22:11] <ekim1912_> anand
#1745 [22:11] <ekim1912_> i dont have any files selcted
#1746 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> An alternative is to open the start menu, type cmd, right-click on the cmd program and choose to run it as administrator
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#1748 [22:12] <ekim1912_> uhh is this for windows 7?
#1749 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, you're running Windows XP. Move on to method 2
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#1751 [22:12] <ekim1912_> oh ok
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#1753 [22:13] <ekim1912_> umm
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#1755 [22:14] <ekim1912_> it wont let me copy the link thing
#1756 [22:14] <ekim1912_> nvm
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#1758 [22:17] <ekim1912_> mmm
#1759 [22:18] <ekim1912_> How do i run the file
#1760 [22:18] <ekim1912_> do i just open it?
#1761 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1762 [22:18] <ekim1912_> ok
#1763 [22:18] <ekim1912_> i opened it
#1764 [22:18] <ekim1912_> but
#1765 [22:18] <ekim1912_> when i click on minecraft
#1766 [22:18] <ekim1912_> it says
#1767 [22:18] <ekim1912_> could not create java virtual machine
#1768 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912_: We are not solving the problem right now. We are trying to get information about what is causing the problem.
#1769 [22:19] <ekim1912_> ohh ok
#1770 [22:19] <ekim1912_> so
#1771 [22:19] <ekim1912_> i try right cliking it
#1772 [22:19] <ekim1912_> but
#1773 [22:19] <ekim1912_> nothin pops up
#1774 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> The command prompt window is what they're talking about there
#1775 [22:20] <ekim1912_> ?
#1776 [22:20] <ekim1912_> i dont understand what you mean by that
#1777 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Which is where the report log should be seen from when attempting to run Minecraft
#1778 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912_: Running minecraft.exe is failing for you. Right?
#1779 [22:21] <ekim1912_> yes
#1780 [22:21] <ekim1912_> i try to open it
#1781 [22:21] <ekim1912_> but its says the java virtual machine thing
#1782 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> So we are not going to run minecraft.exe by itself. Instead, we are going to use minecraft.bat with some special commands, to run minecraft.exe and in the process of running it we are going to be able to see a log of what is going on
#1783 [22:21] <ekim1912_> ok
#1784 [22:21] <ekim1912_> but i have question
#1785 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> That is the purpose of http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1786 [22:22] <ekim1912_> could that problem be caused by something else?
#1787 [22:22] <ekim1912_> becuase
#1788 [22:22] <ekim1912_> once
#1789 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912_: Without information it's impossible to say
#1790 [22:22] <ekim1912_> before back
#1791 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Could be caused by any number of issues, including java
#1792 [22:22] <ekim1912_> i downloaede mincraft
#1793 [22:22] <ekim1912_> and it worked
#1794 [22:22] <ekim1912_> but that time i didnt buy it
#1795 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912_: We are trying to help you to get the information to us sot aht we can help you resolve the problem
#1796 [22:22] <ekim1912_> ok
#1797 [22:23] <ekim1912_> so i go back to the website?
#1798 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912_: Follow the instructions from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1799 [22:23] <ekim1912_> For the method 2 right?
#1800 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1801 [22:24] <ekim1912_> But i just did it
#1802 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you run the .bat file?
#1803 [22:24] <ekim1912_> nothing
#1804 [22:24] <ekim1912_> it jsut opens it up
#1805 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's find out why. Open a comman prompt
#1806 [22:24] <ekim1912_> and jsut shows me some random words and leters
#1807 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> *command prompt
#1808 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> So, nothing happens, or something happens?
#1809 [22:25] <ekim1912_> uhh
#1810 [22:25] <ekim1912_> im not sure when you mean run the bat file
#1811 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Err, hang on - it shows random words and letters?
#1812 [22:25] <ekim1912_> yea
#1813 [22:25] <ekim1912_> when i open
#1814 [22:25] <ekim1912_> i copied the link thing from the website
#1815 [22:26] <ekim1912_> and pasted it on the document becuase thats what it told me to do
#1816 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> We may be able to make some sense from those random words and letters
#1817 [22:26] <ekim1912_> ok
#1818 [22:26] <ekim1912_> how do we do that?
#1819 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> Do you see step 5?
#1820 [22:26] <ekim1912_> oh ill read it
#1821 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that would help
#1822 [22:26] <ekim1912_> Hmmm
#1823 [22:27] <ekim1912_> when i open the minecraft
#1824 [22:27] <ekim1912_> thing
#1825 [22:27] <ekim1912_> and i get ht error report
#1826 [22:27] <ekim1912_> i cant
#1827 [22:27] <ekim1912_> right click it and copy it
#1828 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> You can't right-click on the minecraft window?
#1829 [22:27] <ekim1912_> WAIT WAIT
#1830 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> You're not supposed to right-click on the minecraft window.
#1831 [22:27] <ekim1912_> ?
#1832 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> The focus here is on the cras report
#1833 [22:28] <ekim1912_> it says when i get the error report right click on it
#1834 [22:28] <ekim1912_> does that mean
#1835 [22:28] <ekim1912_> i have to open up the icon with the grass blick on it?
#1836 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> When you run the .bat file, a black window should open, which should then attempt to run Minecraft. That black window should still stay open. Is that the case?
#1837 [22:29] <ekim1912_> or i have another icon that says minecraft with a gear on it
#1838 [22:29] <ekim1912_> uhh
#1839 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> That second one
#1840 [22:29] <ekim1912_> ok
#1841 [22:29] <ekim1912_> ok
#1842 [22:29] <ekim1912_> i opened
#1843 [22:29] <ekim1912_> it
#1844 [22:29] <ekim1912_> and a black window poped up
#1845 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> What does it have to say?
#1846 [22:31] <ekim1912_> Alot of words
#1847 [22:31] <ekim1912_> and at the end it says press any key to continue
#1848 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Do you see step 5?
#1849 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the black command prompt window. Select "Mark". Click and drag a selection over the entire text.
#1850 [22:32] <ekim1912_> ok
#1851 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Go to pastebin.com and paste it there. Then give us the URL after you press submit
#1852 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> You can alternatively choose Select All
#1853 [22:33] <ekim1912_> http://pastebin.com/1GCwTnSy
#1854 [22:33] <ekim1912_> ok
#1855 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> "Could not reserve enough space for object heap" - so there isn't enough memory for it to even start
#1856 [22:34] <ekim1912_> ohh
#1857 [22:34] <ekim1912_> so
#1858 [22:34] <ekim1912_> what should i do?
#1859 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> Your system specs before indicated that you were below the minimum requirements for the game
#1860 [22:35] <ekim1912_> mhmmm
#1861 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> It might be possible to adjust the memory requirements of Minecraft so that Java tries to start with less memory, but that's about all that can be done
#1862 [22:35] <ekim1912_> so should i delete some stuff?
#1863 [22:35] <ekim1912_> ok
#1864 [22:35] <ekim1912_> so i should delete some stuff right?
#1865 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1866 [22:36] <ekim1912_> ?
#1867 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Deleting files does not free up RAM.
#1868 [22:36] <ekim1912_> oh then how do i do that?
#1869 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Memory and hard drive space are two seperate things.
#1870 [22:36] <ekim1912_> ahh ok
#1871 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> There seems to be a good solution to your issue too, at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1223833-java-cannot-create-virtual-machine/
#1872 [22:38] <ekim1912_> where is the solution?
#1873 [22:38] <ekim1912_> all i see
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#1875 [22:38] <ekim1912_> is comments
#1876 [22:38] <ekim1912_> wait
#1877 [22:38] <ekim1912_> ok nvm
#1878 [22:38] <ekim1912_> i think i found a comment
#1879 [22:40] <ekim1912_> ok
#1880 [22:40] <ekim1912_> i have to reboot my comp so many times
#1881 [22:40] <ekim1912_> but im willing
#1882 [22:40] <ekim1912_> to do it
#1883 [22:40] <ekim1912_> ILL BE BACK IN A FEW MINS
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#1888 [22:50] <ekim1912> Uhh ok
#1889 [22:50] <ekim1912> so
#1890 [22:50] <ekim1912> im doing everthing they are telling me to do
#1891 [22:51] <ekim1912> IS this going to help me/?
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#1893 [22:51] <Hcoff5250> hello
#1894 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1895 [22:52] <Hcoff5250> Do you know alittle about minecraft servers?
#1896 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> A little
#1897 [22:52] <Hcoff5250> Why cant people who aren't OP talk on my server?
#1898 [22:53] <Disori> Bukkit or vanilla?
#1899 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> What sort of server are you using? bukkit, tekkit, etc?
#1900 [22:53] <Hcoff5250> bukkit
#1901 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> The #bukkit channel should be able to help you with that
#1902 [22:53] <Hcoff5250> ok thanks
#1903 [22:53] <ekim1912> Disk
#1904 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912: yes?
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#1906 [22:54] <ekim1912> you said something about the RAM?
#1907 [22:54] <ekim1912> so is this all going to help it?
#1908 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> It will help. If not directly with your issue, it helps to rule out a common cause for the problem
#1909 [22:54] <ekim1912> ok
#1910 [22:54] <ekim1912> but
#1911 [22:54] <ekim1912> Can you play the walls on the minecraft browser version?
#1912 [22:55] <ekim1912> i already bought minecraft
#1913 [22:55] <ekim1912> untill this problem came
#1914 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> If that's a mod, then no.
#1915 [22:55] <ekim1912> The Walls?
#1916 [22:55] <ekim1912> its a server
#1917 [22:55] <ekim1912> im pretty sure
#1918 [22:55] <ekim1912> ...
#1919 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Then yes, you should be able to connect with a browser.
#1920 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> That server is at http://www.mcthewalls.com/
#1921 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Provided your computer can run a browser with a java plugin
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#1925 [22:58] <ekim1912> everything is getting laggy
#1926 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> ekim1912: The recommended system requirements for Minecraft are far greater than your current computer system
#1927 [22:59] <ekim1912> i see
#1928 [22:59] <ekim1912> Wait if i can play walls on the browser
#1929 [22:59] <ekim1912> then
#1930 [22:59] <ekim1912> i can play with other players right?
#1931 [23:00] <ekim1912> i only wanted to play the walls on minecraft
#1932 [23:00] <ekim1912> but i dont know how to download it
#1933 [23:01] <ekim1912> Can you help me with the walls?
#1934 [23:01] <ekim1912> on how to download it and play it?
#1935 [23:03] <ekim1912> ok i have to go now
#1936 [23:03] <ekim1912> bye
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#1947 [23:39] <frostic> guys im having an issue. i dont know wat is going on. i might dc if i do ill brb lol. everytime i run minecraft my account loads and as soon as i enter the world my pc is crashing. no bsod. its like the power plug is pulled out any one got any suggestions?
#1948 [23:40] <xales> If the computer completely powers off, then there is likely a hardware fault.
#1949 [23:40] <frostic> hmmm how to test if it is a hardware fault?
#1950 [23:40] <xales> You should probably take it to a local computer repair shop to have the problem diagnosed/resolved.
#1951 [23:41] <xales> Unless you have the appropriate hardware/knowledge to diagnose it, there is no way to be *sure*, but if the computer is powering off, the only real possibility is a hardware fault.
#1952 [23:42] <frostic> ok tyhen i guess im out of luck i can send for repairs as i dont have money for that. is there any way i can test it myself? with a program?
#1953 [23:42] <frostic> cant send for repairs*
#1954 [23:43] <frostic> its only when i run minecraft maybe my gfx card cant handle it?
#1955 [23:43] <xales> No.
#1956 [23:43] <xales> If the graphics card couldn't handle it, it would give you an error message.
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#1958 [23:43] <xales> The problem is more likely that the graphics card is broken.
#1959 [23:44] <xales> Unfortunately, the problem is hardware, not software. Diagnosing the cause/location of most hardware issues cannot generally be done with software.
#1960 [23:44] <frostic> awwww :/ not good news... thanks for the help guess i cant play minecraft nomore :(
#1961 [23:44] <xales> Could possibly get it repaired under warranty.
#1962 [23:44] <xales> (if it still has one)
#1963 [23:45] <frostic> lol 12 year old pc here there is no warrenty
#1964 [23:45] <xales> Yeah, the age of the computer might also have something to do with the fact that it's not working...
#1965 [23:45] <xales> Minecraft is a very modern game, and has trouble running on some lower-end *new* computers.
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#1967 [23:46] <xales> The technology available 12 years ago was nowhere near sufficient to run Minecraft, so unless the computer had been upgraded significantly, it couldn't run even if there wasn't some hardware issue.
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#1971 [23:47] <frostic> minecraft ran good for a week then this started today :/
#1972 [23:47] <xales> Huh.
#1973 [23:47] <xales> If I had to guess, I'd say the graphics card overheated and was damaged or destroyed.
#1974 [23:48] <xales> Based on the age of the computer, and the amount of time.
#1975 [23:48] <Wug> frostic: take it to a hardware place
#1976 [23:48] <frostic> lol i guess minecraft overloaded it and burnt it up haha i fail bad hope i can get my mom to get me a new pc for christmas :(
#1977 [23:48] <Wug> describe the symptoms
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#1979 [23:49] <frostic> well minecraft worked for a week but now my pc power fails when i log in minecraft. i think xales is right my gfx card is fried
#1980 [23:50] <Wug> if thats what it is the hardware peeps will be able to verify it
#1981 [23:50] <night98> i cant get sound to work on minecraft
#1982 [23:51] <Wug> night98: you'll need to update your audio drivers
#1983 [23:51] <Wug> you probably have a dedicated sound card. do you know what it is?
#1984 [23:51] <frostic> im 13 i dont got money to get repairs and i dought my mom will im just going to have to give up maybe she will buy me one on christmas. thanks for the help guys
#1985 [23:51] <night98> i did still not working
#1986 [23:51] <night98> i did still not working
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#1988 [23:53] <night98> i have a HD audio device
#1989 [23:54] <Wug> :tv > night98
#1990 [23:54] <night98> thats my sound card
#1991 [23:54] <night98> it says its up to date
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#1993 [23:55] <Wug> :tv > night98
#1994 [23:55] <WugBot> night98: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1995 [23:55] <WugBot> night98: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#1997 [23:56] <night98> ok
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