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#41 [02:36] <TheLonelyGod> hi
#42 [02:36] <TheLonelyGod> i was wondering if somone could help me with a crash error
#43 [02:38] <DiskDaemon> sure
#44 [02:38] <TheLonelyGod> ill pastie it
#45 [02:38] <TheLonelyGod> sec
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#48 [02:41] <TheLonelyGod> http://pastie.org/5344516
#49 [02:41] <TheLonelyGod> mods installed: zombe mod pack, optifine, possibly world edit cui also
#50 [02:42] <TheLonelyGod> i can join multiplayer fine but not my single player worlds =(
#51 [02:43] <DiskDaemon> TheLonelyGod: We don't support mods here sorry
#52 [02:43] <TheLonelyGod> ugh
#53 [02:43] <TheLonelyGod> is there a place i can go to get support DiskDaemon ?
#54 [02:44] <DiskDaemon> It looks like the randomMobs class is having trouble, so I would get in touch with zombe support
#55 [02:44] <TheLonelyGod> ok thanks, will do that + uninstall zombe for the time being.
#56 [02:46] <DiskDaemon> It looks to be some kind of conflict between zombe and optifine - see http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/91055-v142-zombes-modpack-26-mods-v651-upd-30oct/page__st__10440 for details
#57 [02:47] <TheLonelyGod> ko
#58 [02:47] <TheLonelyGod> ok*
#59 [02:47] <TheLonelyGod> will-do ty again =D
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#76 [03:29] <worstboy> Hey anyone here know how i can bypass it that minecraft is blocked on college? I tried ssh -L 8080:x.x.x.x:28665 69.65.40.171 in terminal but didn't work i'm on a mac btw.
#77 [03:30] <worstboy> With blocked i mean i cant connect to multiplayer btw and i'm on wifi network
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#79 [03:31] <itzmjauz> Hellooo
#80 [03:31] <itzmjauz> Ehrm multiplayer as in a server or the Minecraft login server ?
#81 [03:31] <worstboy> Server
#82 [03:32] <itzmjauz> Ehrm, The only problems with minecraft on schools was the java being outdated, in my case.
#83 [03:33] <Calinou> ssh on a mac? "sorry, it doesn't work"
#84 [03:33] <Calinou> heh
#85 [03:33] <worstboy> Well i have my own macbook so thats not the issue
#86 [03:33] <worstboy> Really? mac got no ssh?
#87 [03:33] <itzmjauz> wow it does
#88 [03:33] <Calinou> blame your teachers for using firewalls
#89 [03:33] <Calinou> they do
#90 [03:33] <itzmjauz> It doessss
#91 [03:33] <Calinou> but their ssh implementation is terrible
#92 [03:33] <Calinou> the non-half-assed OS(R) has a much better one
#93 [03:33] <itzmjauz> nah, firewall on macs worked pretty well.
#94 [03:34] <worstboy> So there is no way to go around it? I think the port is just blocked so need a way to get around that
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#96 [03:35] <Calinou> proxy, tunnel
#97 [03:35] <itzmjauz> There always is a way, but you have to prove that you are right about it being blocked first.
#98 [03:35] <itzmjauz> Otherwise you might be fixing a problem that doesn't exist.
#99 [03:35] <Calinou> also, there's a reason non-web ports are blocked in college
#100 [03:35] <worstboy> You can tell me how to check it?
#101 [03:35] <Calinou> teachers need op here
#102 [03:35] <Calinou> :p
#103 [03:35] <itzmjauz> hmm.
#104 [03:35] <itzmjauz> I'm not sure but I have something in mind
#105 [03:36] <Skavies> dpes anyone know which version of MCMMO to put on a server hosting the current/recommended version of tekkit (tekkit 1.3.2/1.2.5 according to the technic launcher)
#106 [03:37] <Calinou> ask in #bukkit, this channel is about vanilla client/server support
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#108 [03:37] <Calinou> and tekkit is not supported in #bukkit anyway
#109 [03:37] <Skavies> thankk you.
#110 [03:37] <Skavies> thankk you.
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#112 [03:38] <Calinou> see this: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/mcmmo/files/
#113 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> See http://www.technicpack.net/faq/ for the IRC server anbd channel to go to for tekkit support... grr, he's gone
#114 [03:38] <Calinou> :|
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#122 [03:49] <MK> Which is the light level that effects mob spawning? block light (bl), or raw lighting (rl)?
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#124 [03:50] <monkeytaco> Hey, I've been having an issue with OpenGL and Minecraft.
#125 [03:50] <monkeytaco> I've tried every fix I could find, and I still get the same error.
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#127 [03:51] <Calinou> update your drivers
#128 [03:51] <monkeytaco> I've updated my drivers several times, and it's been a few days now.
#129 [03:51] <Calinou> (NOT through windows update. do that through the manufacturer's website)
#130 [03:52] <monkeytaco> Yep
#131 [03:52] <monkeytaco> I did.
#132 [03:52] <Calinou> MK: raw light
#133 [03:52] <Calinou> (note that raw light is still 15 at moonlight, but mobs will spawn)
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#135 [03:52] <Calinou> s/raw/sky
#136 [03:52] <monkeytaco> ?
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#139 [03:59] <monkeytaco> I'll be right back. Gonna re-start
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#141 [04:02] <MK> Calinou: so the actual light level that mobs use can't be seen?..
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#146 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> The Minecraft debug screen shows you the blocklight, skylight and rawlight, as bl, sl and rl. I think that blocklight is what's used to determine whether mob will spawn. They spawn at 7 or below
#147 [04:07] <MK> Alright, that's what i suspected but wanted to make sure.
#148 [04:07] <Diablodoc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwhMoQBg_8
#149 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> Details om mob spawning are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn#Mob_spawning
#150 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Although I do believe that the mob spawning is based on the light level at your feet, whereas the debug screen shows the light level at your head.
#151 [04:10] <MK> ahh, I was looking on the Light page and the Mob page, of course the details I need are elsewhere
#152 [04:10] <MK> yeah I did read that
#153 [04:11] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: thing I find weird with the sl value, is its always 15 in direct sunlight, even at night
#154 [04:11] <MK> I was wondering, then, if it is bl, how sunlight vs. moonlight v. no skylight affects it. It seems that the game merely decreases the chances of a spawn when those are there? So then, can hostile mobs spawn in sunlit areas during the day? Or does that only mean non-sunlit areas, and sunliight that has leaked through?
#155 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> That's because sl shows the light level from the sun and the moon (SkyLight). See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Debug_screen
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#157 [04:13] <SinZ> in midday, bl can still be 0, and you know mobs wont spawn
#158 [04:13] <SinZ> (in direct sunlight)
#159 [04:13] <MK> yeah, correct.
#160 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> If sunlight is shining through a suspended pool of water, is that still considered to be sunlight beneath it?
#161 [04:14] <MK> I can check that now
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#163 [04:15] <MK> the sl level falls for every block of water
#164 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> water reduces sl - so sunlight reduced to 7 or lower means that mobs can still spawn, but there's only 1/2 the chance as there normally would be elsewhere without the sun or moon
#165 [04:17] <MK> so there's an 'in sunlight' thing that is preventing mobs from spawning in the day but not at night even when the sl is the same? What times is this active?
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#168 [04:18] <MK> The same thing I assume that sets mobs on fire
#169 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> sl is active 24/7, whenever the sky can be seen directly above you
#170 [04:19] <MK> I mean the other in sunlight thing :P
#171 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> the moon?
#172 [04:20] <MK> The thing that sets mobs on fire
#173 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> I would think that that's the blocklevel value
#174 [04:24] <MK> It's the time
#175 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> This is what causes the zombie, for example, to be set on fire - if (f > 0.5F && worldObj.canBlockSeeTheSky(MathHelper.floor_double(posX), MathHelper.floor_double(posY), MathHelper.floor_double(posZ)) && rand.nextFloat() * 30F < (f - 0.4F) * 2.0F)
#176 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> where f is the brightness
#177 [04:29] <MK> I was just checking with spawn eggs
#178 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Pardon - I checked the code directly :)
#179 [04:29] <MK> Are you looking at the right thing?
#180 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> The EntityZombie.onLivingUpdate() method
#181 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> That's wrapped inside of a worldObj.isDaytime() check
#182 [04:30] <MK> lol, exactly.
#183 [04:30] <MK> isDaytime
#184 [04:30] <MK> It checks for a specific clock time
#185 [04:31] <MK> which seems to be 0 through 12500
#186 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> So is it daytime? Yes? Is it more than half bright? Yes? Can the sky be seen? Has a small random time passed? Set on fire.
#187 [04:31] <MK> Alright
#188 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> isDaytime is a simple function, that consists of this - return skylightSubtracted < 4;
#189 [04:31] <MK> hm
#190 [04:32] <MK> Wiki says daylight lasts 10 minutes, so that's 12,000 ticks
#191 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> indeed - 24000 for 24 hours
#192 [04:35] <MK> Skeletons still catch fire at 12499 but not 12500, so hm
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#194 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> As said before, it's not the tick value that determines that sort of thing
#195 [04:37] <MK> It's the sunset decreasing the light by 1 every 200 ticks?
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#197 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Something like that
#198 [04:40] <MK> Alright
#199 [04:40] <MK> this is all me trying to figure out what Bright and Dark do in Mystcraft X)
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#201 [04:43] <Deathspawn> are cave spiders supposed to be able to get through half slab height?
#202 [04:44] <Deathspawn> it seems like they can't crawl through, but they manage to lunge at you
#203 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> yes
#204 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> "Their small size (0.7 x 0.7 x 0.5) allows them to fit through spaces one block wide and just half a block tall including those created by slabs, fence posts and two stair blocks facing each other." from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cave_Spider
#205 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> Reading the wiki helps to answer a lot of these question. R-E-E-E-D.
#206 [04:47] <Deathspawn> missed that part i swear! actually thought they were 1x1x1 heh
#207 [04:56] <MK> anyway thanks for the help
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#260 [08:56] <fimblo> Hi, does anyone know when in the new account creation process one selects one's desired minecraft username?
#261 [08:57] <Morrolan> When buying a Minecraft account.
#262 [08:57] <fimblo> Hi Morrolan, thanks for answering. The thing is, Im on the page right now, and all I see is Firstname/Lastname and email address
#263 [08:57] <Morrolan> That is when creating a Mojang account.
#264 [08:58] <fimblo> hm. I just did it, will check. I might have seen incorrectly. Thanks
#265 [08:59] <Morrolan> https://account.mojang.com/register is where you create a Mojang account, after that you'll be able to buy a Minecraft account, and there you should be able to choose a nickname.
#266 [08:59] <Morrolan> (Mind you that I never did so, so I can only repeat what I've heard, I bought my accounts way before those Mojang accounts were introduced.)
#267 [08:59] <fimblo> Yeah me too. doing this for my son. Its all... very new :)
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#269 [09:01] <fimblo> I already registered an account. Then I selected 'buy minecraft', and I come to a page where I spec home address, and have the ability to change my son's fname/lname. Then I click to the payment page.
#270 [09:01] <fimblo> the payment page is just payment stuff.
#271 [09:02] <Morrolan> Upon completion of the payment you'll be sent a redemption link per e-mail, and I _guess_ that, when you click that one, you'll be able to choos a nickname.
#272 [09:03] <fimblo> hm. I'll have to give that a shot then. I hate paying without knowing though. (not complaining to you of course. Thanks for the help Morrolan)
#273 [09:04] <Morrolan> Let me know whether my assumption was correct, please, would be nice to know for sure. :)
#274 [09:04] <Morrolan> I can only assure you that one has to be able to choose one's nickname somewhere, since I have yet to see people without nicknames. ;D
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#276 [09:05] <fimblo> yeah. was just worried that it would default to the handle of the email address or something stupid like that.
#277 [09:06] <Morrolan> Nah, one of the reasons that Mojang introduced those Mojang account is, that they wanted to distinguish between ingame-names and login-names.
#278 [09:06] <Morrolan> (login-names being the e-mail address, and ingame-names the ones people see when playing multiplayer.)
#279 [09:06] <fimblo> ah.
#280 [09:06] <fimblo> yeah was wondering about that earlier.
#281 [09:06] <Morrolan> Since this way none who sees you online knows your account name, which makes it much harder to crack someone's account.
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#283 [09:07] <fimblo> yeah, decoupling the two sounds like a good idea.
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#285 [09:12] <Morrolan> !seen marc_irl
#286 [09:12] <GreyBot> I last saw marc_irl (webchat@c-24-18-210-2.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 5days 18hrs 33mins 32secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: Web client closed
#287 [09:12] <Morrolan> *strokes GreyBot*
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#310 [10:42] <TimS> Hi there
#311 [10:42] <TimS> Anybody alive?)
#312 [10:43] <TimS> Don't really know where to find MC server software. Need help.
#313 [10:44] <NinjaKirby> It's on the official website download page :3
#314 [10:44] <NinjaKirby> Where one acquires the client.
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#318 [10:48] <TimS> Don't really know whether my wife will like it or not, I want to show her the last multiplayer version. I want to run server at 1 laptop and play with her by LAN
#319 [10:48] <EstebanIsNotHan> Hey guys, i was wondering about the new mojang account.. will our email be used as our ign ??
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#322 [10:55] <coletrain> when I log in to my minecraft account and I pull up the browser it goes to a black screen and wont load what do I do?
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#324 [10:57] <coletrain> hello
#325 [10:57] <monkeytaco> Hello. I'm still having an issue with Minecraft saying I have an OpenGL error.
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#327 [10:58] <Calinou> ??> monkeytaco win/dxdiag
#328 [10:58] <VoxelHead> monkeytaco: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#329 [10:58] <EstebanIsNotHan> Hey guys, i was wondering about the new mojang account.. will our email be used as our ign and I cant login using a mojang account.. any idea? :/
#330 [10:58] <VoxelHead> monkeytaco: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#331 [10:58] <Calinou> EstebanIsNotHan: login using your email in the launcher, yes
#332 [10:58] <monkeytaco> I've updated my drivers from the official website (NVIDIA)
#333 [10:58] <monkeytaco> Ok
#334 [10:58] <Calinou> but do that anyway monkeytaco
#335 [10:59] <Calinou> (note that you need a fairly recent computer to play minecraft, especially if you want to use "far" render distance)
#336 [10:59] <monkeytaco> It's maybe a year old at best. I've played minecraft on it before, it just decided to start being troublesome lately.
#337 [11:00] <EstebanIsNotHan> So..our email will be used as IGN?! I cant log into minecraft using mojang account as it keeps saying "login failed"
#338 [11:00] <Calinou> EstebanIsNotHan: you mean, the name that shows above your player in multiplayer? no
#339 [11:00] <Calinou> your account name is still your in game name
#340 [11:00] <Calinou> but to log in, use the email
#341 [11:00] <EstebanIsNotHan> Yeah the name that show above player in multiplayer
#342 [11:00] <monkeytaco> http://pastebin.com/wrsUrQwd
#343 [11:00] <Calinou> account migration has been known to be troublesome, might want to check http://help.mojang.com
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#345 [11:01] <EstebanIsNotHan> I wont even recognize my mojang account .-. http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/xiaozhoo/Untitled.png
#346 [11:02] <Calinou> monkeytaco: make sure you downloaded the 64 bit drivers
#347 [11:02] <monkeytaco> Let me double check.
#348 [11:02] <monkeytaco> Yep
#349 [11:04] <monkeytaco> EstebanIsNotHan: Do you know the e-mail you created the account with?
#350 [11:04] <EstebanIsNotHan> Yeah , I've just registered a few minutes ago..
#351 [11:05] <monkeytaco> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329527-what-if-i-don%E2%80%99t-remember-my-username-
#352 [11:05] <monkeytaco> Try that.
#353 [11:06] <EstebanIsNotHan> Okay.. let me check that out
#354 [11:06] <Calinou> try uninstalling your previous driver from the add/remove software menu in the control panel
#355 [11:07] <monkeytaco> Done that several times.
#356 [11:08] <EstebanIsNotHan> Is it necessary to migrate into a mojang account from ordinary minecraft account?
#357 [11:08] <monkeytaco> Not specifically that way, but I might as well try it.,
#358 [11:14] <TimS> Can I find a ready-to-play dowloadable MC server software with plugins? I like survival mode.
#359 [11:14] <Necrodoom> TimS: do you know what bukkit is?
#360 [11:15] <TimS> Yes
#361 [11:15] <Calinou> http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/get/01542_1.4.2-R0.2/craftbukkit-beta.jar
#362 [11:15] <Calinou> craftbukkit beta build that works with latest minecraft version
#363 [11:15] <Calinou> comes with no plugins as usual; you can find plugons on http://dev.bukkit.org
#364 [11:16] <TimS> Thanks I'll try it.
#365 [11:16] <Necrodoom> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#366 [11:16] <Calinou> and there's another plugin list here: http://plugins.bukkit.org
#367 [11:16] <Necrodoom> inb4
#368 [11:16] <Calinou> (there are no "recommended" builds for 1.4.2, currently)
#369 [11:17] <Calinou> just run the .jar with java and the server should work; you want to forward port 25565 in TCP if you want people from the internet to be able to connect
#370 [11:17] <TimS> Why? Is 1.4.2 buggy?
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#372 [11:18] <Calinou> no
#373 [11:18] <TimS> So I guess that builds are buggy
#374 [11:18] <Calinou> beta doesn't mean buggy
#375 [11:19] <Calinou> it means "not extensively tested"
#376 [11:19] <Smanly> 1.4.2 bukkit is fine/
#377 [11:19] <Calinou> it should work just fine :)
#378 [11:19] <Calinou> it takes some time to 1) update craftbukkit, 2) test it, so testing is done quickly after new minecraft releases
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#381 [11:20] <TimS> "Potentially buggy", okay :)
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#388 [11:23] <TimS> The last question - why are you so kind to chat here and to help people?)
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#390 [11:23] <thommmm> hey minecraft isnt do anything
#391 [11:24] <thommmm> he say bad videocard drivers
#392 [11:25] <thommmm> can someone help me=
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#396 [11:26] <TheScavenger> Anything up with AUTH ?
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#398 [11:27] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#399 [11:27] <Smanly> no
#400 [11:31] <TheScavenger> Thanks.
#401 [11:31] <TheScavenger> Thanks.
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#404 [11:37] <m0nk> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540592_10151736656690581_382014277_n.jpg
#405 [11:38] <Calinou> seems legit
#406 [11:40] <m0nk> :D
#407 [11:40] <m0nk> if china was a place in minecraft!
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#412 [11:49] <achimon> hi
#413 [11:51] <Necrodoom> Oerg866_: wat
#414 [11:51] <Necrodoom> er
#415 [11:51] <Necrodoom> wrong guy
#416 [11:51] <Necrodoom> oldtopman: wat
#417 [11:52] <oldtopman> Necrodoom: Did you read the link?
#418 [11:54] <Necrodoom> oh, i see
#419 [11:54] <Necrodoom> thought you were a kick bot
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#432 [12:23] <billy> Trying to log in and getting ' Account Migraged. Use email as username'. Problem is, I don't remember what email I used and can't get in. All I have is my username creds. Ideas?
#433 [12:27] <oldtopman> billy: Find the email.
#434 [12:28] <billy> oldtopman: No way to make the username and password work?
#435 [12:29] <oldtopman> billy: Not that I know of. I'd suggest finding your payment details, but those are likely in your lost email.
#436 [12:29] <oldtopman> If you do find them, email them to support@mojang.com. They can probably help you.
#437 [12:30] <billy> Thanks
#438 [12:30] <achimon> buy minecraft again
#439 [12:30] <achimon> less stress
#440 [12:30] <achimon> imo
#441 [12:30] <achimon> but you have to start from 0^^
#442 [12:33] <billy> Fired an email to mojang. We'll see what happens.
#443 [12:33] <billy> thanks for the help
#444 [12:33] <achimon> gl
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#448 [12:43] <Pleaseadvise> Hey, interesting story here. Way back in the day, when I bought minecraft, I didn't have an email address. So a good buddy of mine let me use his email just to get the confirmation and whatnot. Well here we are, a couple years later. And one soured friendship later,he has basically stolen my account, and since he still has the email with the transaction number and stuff. Is there anything I can do about this?
#449 [12:43] <Pleaseadvise> I can't change the accout email, or the password.
#450 [12:43] <oldtopman> Pleaseadvise: Make better friends and buy a new copy of minecraft.
#451 [12:44] <Pleaseadvise> That's what I was afraid of. There's nothing else I can do? Well darn. Thanks man
#452 [12:44] <Selbram> You do not have a minecraft account :(
#453 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> Pleaseadvise: better friends optional
#454 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> getting your own email account would be a good start.
#455 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> I recommend www.gmail.com
#456 [12:45] <Selbram> ^
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#458 [12:45] <Pleaseadvise> Yeah, I was in 8th grade at the time XD I've had one for years and was trying to change to it.
#459 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> if you _really_ want your account back, you could try small claims court.
#460 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> ah
#461 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> you were then too young to actually enter into a contract, so
#462 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> chalk it up to youthful ignorance and move on
#463 [12:46] <oldtopman> indeed
#464 [12:46] <oldtopman> That's a cheaper lesson, IIRC
#465 [12:46] * oldtopman had some more expensive ones
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#467 [12:47] <Hystori> Is there a config to disable pigmen from exiting nether portals?
#468 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> Hystori: you can turn off mobs entirely
#469 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> or turn off your portals when you're not using them.
#470 [12:51] <Hystori> I meant, I wished to prevent netherportal grinders
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#474 [12:54] <Smanly> Hystori: You would a modded server for something like taht/
#475 [12:55] <Hystori> So you do know of a way?
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#477 [12:55] <Smanly> find a plugin that does what you want. http://plugins.bukkit.org/curseforge/#ti=&ta=all&au=&pno=0
#478 [12:56] <Necrodoom> you need bukkit first
#479 [12:56] <Smanly> Perhaps Multiverse has that sort of a setting.
#480 [12:56] <Hystori> wait, we can talk on #bukkit
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#482 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> yay for people who know how IRC works! /me gives Hystori a cookie (:
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#485 [13:00] <PewChickenStew> Can anyone tell me how far around the spawning co-ordinate the player will spawn?
#486 [13:00] <PewChickenStew> Thanks in advance :)
#487 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> IIRC it's around a 30 block radius
#488 [13:01] <PewChickenStew> aha thanks :)
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#496 [13:07] <Smanly> DopeGhoti: Is it not just within that chunk?
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#498 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Presumably, if the spawn point is near a chunk border, it could spill over into a neighboring chunk. I don't know whether the point is procedurally limited to be far from chunk edges or not.
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#514 [13:28] <monkeytaco> Back again. Still nothing.
#515 [13:28] <monkeytaco> Still having an OpenGL acceleration error.
#516 [13:33] <monkeytaco> I don't think it'
#517 [13:33] <monkeytaco> s a driver issue at this point.
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#530 [14:02] <CaptainMC> hello?
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#532 [14:03] <CaptainMC> oh, ok, someone has been trying to change my password. and I have suspicions of who it is. his name is Monster20355. I have some proof that it is him, or at least he did it
#533 [14:03] <CaptainMC> to other people
#534 [14:04] <CaptainMC> he hacked my friends account named zkyr and changed his password. then hacked my other friend and threatend to hack me, and two other friends.
#535 [14:04] <CaptainMC> I recently got an email saying that someone tried to change my password.
#536 [14:04] <CaptainMC> please do something about this, he owns his own server that he calls "monstehellcraft" thank you.
#537 [14:07] <Morrolan> a) Mojang can not, and will not, do anything against individual people.
#538 [14:07] <Morrolan> b) We are not Mojang, so we can do even less.
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#541 [14:07] <Morrolan> c) There's nothing anyone can do to prevent people from entering your username in the "forgot password" thingy, thereby sending you an e-mail. ;)
#542 [14:08] <Morrolan> Keep your e-mail address secure, and use a sane password, and you won't have to worry about any "hackers".
#543 [14:08] <CaptainMC> he physically changed two other players passwords
#544 [14:08] <CaptainMC> not just what happened to me.
#545 [14:08] <Morrolan> Then those two players didn't use proper passwords, or gave them away.
#546 [14:08] <Morrolan> (or have a keylogger on their computer)
#547 [14:09] <CaptainMC> apperently he gets everyones pass that joins his server
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#549 [14:09] <Morrolan> That is impossible.
#550 [14:09] <Morrolan> The only thing which _used to be_ possible was, "stealing" someone's session when he joined your server, which allowed you to join some other server, pretending to be him.
#551 [14:09] <david_> can anyone help with downloading minecraft for mac?
#552 [14:09] <Morrolan> david_ - There's a download link on www.minecraft.net/download
#553 [14:10] <CaptainMC> well idk how he did it then
#554 [14:10] <Morrolan> CaptainMC - Chances are those people just used very weak passwords, or told someone what their pw was. ;)
#555 [14:10] * Grim_Reaper stalks Morrolan and hugs >_>
#555 [14:10] <david_> i download it and then it says theres an error with minecraft
#556 [14:10] <Morrolan> david_ - What does it say specifically?
#557 [14:11] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#557 [14:11] <david_> minecraft is damaged and can't be opened. you should move to trash
#558 [14:11] <CaptainMC> weird
#559 [14:11] <Morrolan> ??> david_ mac/gatekeeper
#560 [14:11] <CaptainMC> thanks anyways
#561 [14:11] <VoxelHead> david_: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#562 [14:12] <Morrolan> david_ - Try VoxelHead's instructions.
#563 [14:12] <Morrolan> If those don't work there's a more invasive solution, too.
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#565 [14:13] <david_> i right clicked and opened gave me the same error
#566 [14:14] <david_> where do i find his instructions
#567 [14:14] <Morrolan> Okay. Then click on the Apple menu -> System preferences -> Security and Privacy -> General tab
#568 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> !topic add Happy 165th birthday, Bram Stoker
#569 [14:15] <Morrolan> On that page there are, on the bottom, three checkboxes, labeled "Mac App Store", "Mac App Store and identified developers" and "Anywhere".
#570 [14:15] <Morrolan> There you'll want to select "Anywhere"
#571 [14:17] <david_> looks like it will work thanks for ur help
#572 [14:17] <Morrolan> Sure thing. If it bugs out again, you know where to find us. ;)
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#580 [14:39] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Still got Machinarium, Crayon Physics and Eufloria up for grab, want one of those?
#581 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Umm sure if you like. I have crayon physics.
#582 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Rest I dont have :p
#583 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> So you can choose if you like
#584 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> If somebody else wants. Give it to them though :3
#585 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah Morrolan. Lemme know :3
#586 [14:41] <Morrolan> Machinarium is a cute little adventure game (by the guys who made Samorost & Botanicula). Eufloria is an easy (in terms of learning the different units, since there aren't many) strategy game, which is relaxing near the start, and damn hard near the end.
#587 [14:41] <Morrolan> It's basically about seedlings, which are some sort of birds made out of seeds, fighting each other. ;D
#588 [14:41] <Morrolan> Pick whatever one you want. (Maybe watch a trailer on Steam or whatnot.)
#589 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> ok choose the cutest for me lol :p
#590 [14:42] <Morrolan> Heck, do you prefer adventure games or "different" strategy games?
#591 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> Adventure xP
#592 [14:43] <Morrolan> *sends query*
#593 [14:43] <Grim_Reaper> Thankies
#594 [14:43] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#595 [14:43] <Morrolan> That's two more, anyone interested in either Crayon Physics or Eufloria?
#596 [14:44] <Morrolan> Else I'll put it on steamgifts or on the forum of a community I frequent, I guess. :)
#597 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan if you like I can give them away on my twitter :p
#598 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Might get me some followers again >_>
#599 [14:44] <Morrolan> Haha, if you want. ;D
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#601 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> Lol alright
#602 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme first see if any of them are interested
#603 [14:45] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#604 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> https://twitter.com/Serenko_Games/status/266627799685685248 lets see >.>
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#606 [14:47] <Morrolan> Not Machinarium, you silly, you got that one yourself. ;D
#607 [14:47] <Morrolan> (Unless you didn't redeem the key and want to give it away :) )
#608 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right >_>
#609 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> My bad haha
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#611 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> Do you have a twitter Morrolan?
#612 [14:49] <Morrolan> Uh, I do have one somewhere, but it's not used actively, and I probably don't even recall the username.
#613 [14:49] <Morrolan> (It's not @morrolan, that one belongs to someone else)
#614 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#615 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> Ah well
#616 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> could give credit for the keys assuming anybody is interested
#617 [14:49] <Morrolan> To someone with a rather odd profile picture. <.<
#618 [14:50] <Morrolan> At least she's got the name from the same place I do, though. :)
#619 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#620 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan I'll give my.. 30ish followers like 5 mins or something to decide
#621 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Otherwise just give it away however you like
#622 [14:51] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#623 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> This reminds me. I actually have a.. I think 15% discount on portal 2 to give away :|
#624 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> But nobody was interested last time
#625 [14:52] <Morrolan> Hah, I've got a free Portal1 to give away, just that everyone has it since it was free, once. :P
#626 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#627 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> I got portal 2. I really enjoyed xP
#628 [14:53] <Morrolan> Oh, and 2x Sanctum and 1x Greed Corp, for birthdays and the like. :)
#629 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#630 [14:53] <Morrolan> (Always stock up on some games when there's a sale ;))
#631 [14:54] <Grim_Reaper> Hehe
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#634 [14:55] <Daxter> a free portal game?
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#636 [14:58] <Morrolan> Portal, the game, yes.
#637 [14:58] <nutellabrot17> Hi, i bought this game for my brothes old notebook. This is his account. Unfortunatelly it doesn't work because his graphic driver is to bad
#638 [14:58] <Morrolan> nutellabrot17 - Did you try to update it?
#639 [14:58] <nutellabrot17> it's not possible
#640 [14:58] <nutellabrot17> it's only a graphic chip not card
#641 [14:58] <nutellabrot17> i didn't know this
#642 [14:58] <Morrolan> Integrated graphic cards have drivers too.
#643 [14:59] <Morrolan> But yea, even if you get it running it won't be smooth.
#644 [14:59] <nutellabrot17> but there are only 128MB shared memory
#645 [14:59] <nutellabrot17> so i think he has to buy a new pc or not?
#646 [14:59] <Morrolan> It surely wouldn't hurt, yes.
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#648 [15:01] <nutellabrot17> ok, is there any chance to get my money back? He is only 11 and cant get a new pc in the next view months
#649 [15:01] <rymate1234> No
#650 [15:01] <rymate1234> However mine craft accounts last forever
#651 [15:01] <Morrolan> Mojang doesn't offer refunds, since there's a demo available, as well as hardware requirements listed on their website. :)
#652 [15:01] <rymate1234> :)
#653 [15:02] <Morrolan> But yea, since accounts don't expire you can just wait 'till he's got a new PC.
#654 [15:03] <nutellabrot17> ooḱ, that's sad. I think he has to tell it grandma (xmas) ;)
#655 [15:03] <Morrolan> Sounds reasonable. :)
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#657 [15:04] <ip0nly> hello?
#658 [15:04] <nutellabrot17> :(
#659 [15:04] <rymate1234> Hi
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#661 [15:06] <ip0nly> I was trying to join #computercraft to get some help with that mod, but apparently I am banned? Never been on this IRC channel before, so I am confused
#662 [15:06] <ip0nly> anyone know if there is a whitelist or summat?
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#664 [15:06] <Morrolan> Uh, might be set to allow registered accounts only, I'll take a look.
#665 [15:07] <ip0nly> guess I will go register in the meantime
#666 [15:07] <ip0nly> if I can figure out how X[
#667 [15:08] <Morrolan> ip0nly - Nah, there's a very generic ban they set. (They banned *!*@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
#668 [15:08] <ip0nly> oh, dang
#669 [15:08] <Morrolan> Now I'm not familiar with comcast's structure, but that looks VERY generic.
#670 [15:08] <Morrolan> I'll ask them about it. ;D
#671 [15:08] <ip0nly> thank you
#672 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> yeah, I think that's pretty much most of IL on Comcast's network.
#673 [15:09] <Morrolan> ip0nly - Actually, you can also circumvent that ban by using a client other than webchat, but they might just remove it.
#674 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: don't advocate ban evasion, even if the ban is a Bad Idea.
#675 [15:10] <Morrolan> It's not ban evasion if the ban wasn't meant for you. *shrug*
#676 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> it's evading a ban, by definition.
#677 [15:10] <Morrolan> From what I see they just don't like webchat users from Ilinois. ;)
#678 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#679 [15:11] <ip0nly> I do have chatzilla
#680 [15:11] <ip0nly> I will try that
#681 [15:12] <ip0nly> thank you again, and I think I just won't mention I am from IL ;P
#682 [15:12] <m0nk> irland?
#683 [15:12] <m0nk> israel`?
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#685 [15:12] <Morrolan> given that it's comcast I had assumed it was Illinois.
#686 [15:12] <Morrolan> (probably spelled wrong)
#687 [15:13] <Morrolan> Nope, got it right.
#688 [15:13] <m0nk> IIInois...
#689 [15:13] <m0nk> lol
#690 [15:13] <Morrolan> The first's an "I" as in "icecream", the other two are "l"s as in "lower" ;)
#691 [15:13] <Morrolan> But depending on your font they look indistinguishable indeed.
#692 [15:13] <achimon> yes
#693 [15:13] <m0nk> i used three i's
#694 [15:13] <achimon> re btw
#695 [15:13] <m0nk> capital
#696 [15:13] <m0nk> i's
#697 [15:13] <m0nk> !
#698 [15:13] <m0nk> butwhatever
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#710 [15:35] <Jdar2> Whats bad video.card drivers Mean?
#711 [15:36] <techno156> Exactly that
#712 [15:36] <rymate1234> Means you haven't got the latest drivers installed
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#714 [15:37] <techno156> Hi rymate
#715 [15:37] <Jdar2> i updated. does it have anything with having intel intergrated graphics.
#716 [15:37] <techno156> Probably
#717 [15:37] <Jdar2> there not hd
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#719 [15:38] <Jdar2> there at least 7 years old.
#720 [15:38] <techno156> Jdar, check your intel drivers, just in card
#721 [15:39] <Jdar2> i did. it never worked. i dont have time to start up.
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#723 [15:39] <techno156> *case
#724 [15:39] <techno156> Can you update the intel drivers?
#725 [15:39] <Jdar2> lastest version.
#726 [15:40] <Jdar2> checked yesterday.
#727 [15:40] <techno156> Hmmm...
#728 [15:40] <techno156> Might be the other video card, then
#729 [15:40] <Jdar2> Its a pc thats 9 years old.
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#731 [15:41] <Jdar2> its also slim.
#732 [15:41] <Morrolan> Then it just won't support the OpenGL version required by Minecraft.
#733 [15:41] <Jdar2> zno opengl support
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#735 [15:42] <Jdar2> also what laptop under 500 wwould get me at least 60 fps recording and 90 fps just playkng (specs)
#736 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Not going to happen for under 500
#737 [15:42] <Morrolan> 500 what?
#738 [15:42] <techno156|Phone> 500 what?
#739 [15:42] <Smanly> LOL
#740 [15:42] <Jdar2> 500$
#741 [15:42] <Smanly> HAHAHA
#742 [15:43] <Smanly> LOL
#743 [15:43] <Morrolan> Then I agree with Grey. ;)
#744 [15:43] <techno156|Phone> From which country we mean
#745 [15:43] <Jdar2> or at least good fps.
#746 [15:43] <Morrolan> 500 pounds might have been an option.
#747 [15:43] <Jdar2> 500 usd.
#748 [15:43] <oldtopman> Jdar2: Smooth is 30, and I've got that on my Thinkpad t61.
#749 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> No laptop's going to be good at recording and playing decently at under 500
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#751 [15:44] <techno156|Phone> Jdar, it might be better to use the 500 to upgrade your old computer instead
#752 [15:44] <Smanly> Getting a pc that good for 500 would be tough.
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#754 [15:44] <techno156|Phone> The parts would probably be a better choice
#755 [15:44] <Smanly> Depends how old the PC is.
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#757 [15:45] <techno156|Phone> His was around 9
#758 [15:45] <Jdar2> oops.
#759 [15:46] <techno156|Phone> Jdar2, it might be better to spend the 500 on upgrading your computer instead
#760 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Not for a 9 year old comptuer
#761 [15:46] <techno156|Phone> Maybe...
#762 [15:47] <Smanly> Yeah... unless... all depends
#763 [15:47] <Morrolan> Only thing worth keeping in a 9 year old computer is the case. ;)
#764 [15:47] <Jdar2> cause whats a decent sepcs for a laptop.
#765 [15:47] <techno156|Phone> Depends on where the 500 is from
#766 [15:47] <Smanly> Jdar2: wat...
#767 [15:47] <Morrolan> Not even sure whether the drilling holes would fit.
#768 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> A dedicated graphics card in a laptop is only available in models over 600-700 dollars, and even that's low-end
#769 [15:48] <techno156|Phone> For minecraft?
#770 [15:48] <Morrolan> You'll need a dedicated GPU and a good CPU, yes.
#771 [15:48] <Jdar2> desktopa?
#772 [15:48] <Smanly> You dont need a dedi GPU
#773 [15:48] <Morrolan> Running a Ati HD 6970, and Minecraft is using up to 80%, if one is to believe MSI Afterburner.
#774 [15:48] <rymate1234> Yes ti
#775 [15:48] <rymate1234> Meh
#776 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead and try minecraft, with recording software on an integrated graphics card. I dare you
#777 [15:49] <rymate1234> Lol
#778 [15:49] <Morrolan> Of course if you decrease the "fancyness" you will get it working on an integrated one, but not smoothyl.
#779 [15:49] <Morrolan> smoothly, even.-
#780 [15:49] <Jdar2> im asking cause my pc doesnt wwork.
#781 [15:49] <Smanly> I mean to play.
#782 [15:49] <rymate1234> Jdar2: Google
#783 [15:49] <Smanly> I have a 4000HD iGPU
#784 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Jdar2 was asking about the capability to record as well
#785 [15:49] <Jdar2> my moms netbook runs it at 100 fps.
#786 [15:49] <Smanly> wat
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#788 [15:49] <Smanly> Netbook...
#789 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> <Jdar2> also what laptop under 500 wwould get me at least 60 fps recording and 90 fps just playkng (specs)
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#791 [15:50] <Smanly> Depends what resolution you are gonna record in.
#792 [15:50] <Jdar2> its a acer 1gb ram.
#793 [15:50] <Smanly> Good luck with 1080
#794 [15:50] <oldtopman> Jdar2: Your mom's laptop is probably less than $500.
#795 [15:50] <Smanly> Jdar2: lol
#796 [15:50] <techno156|Phone> My school laptop has integrated graphics, though on barely manager to run minecraft smoothly using optifine
#797 [15:50] <oldtopman> I do not think it has 100fps though
#798 [15:51] <rymate1234> Jdar2: did your mum get the net book from Nasa?
#799 [15:51] <Smanly> >1 gb ram
#800 [15:51] <Smanly> >100fps
#801 [15:51] <Jdar2> well its 50-100
#802 [15:51] <oldtopman> >lol
#803 [15:51] <Jdar2> no.
#804 [15:51] <oldtopman> yes
#805 [15:51] <Smanly> Not that ram is the deciding factor.
#806 [15:51] <oldtopman> Buuuut, there are 0 netbooks that can get 100fps
#807 [15:51] <Smanly> ^
#808 [15:51] <Jdar2> did i get ry from nasa? dont think so.-.-
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#810 [15:51] <Morrolan> Mhm, but Minecraft will refuse to start if you ahve one GB of RAM only, unless you use custom memory parameters. :)
#811 [15:51] <Morrolan> have*
#812 [15:51] <Smanly> Yeah lol
#813 [15:52] <techno156|Phone> Not without overclocking at least
#814 [15:52] <oldtopman> Jdar2: And 90FPS is a lot for a sub $500 computer. Think thousand dollar plus/
#815 [15:52] <Jdar2> nope. its a gb.
#816 [15:52] <Jdar2> how about 30 fps?
#817 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Then you're not getting 50-100 fps off that
#818 [15:52] <techno156|Phone> Might be 1.5
#819 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> I highly doubt even 30fps
#820 [15:52] <rymate1234> Jdar2: pics or it didn't happen
#821 [15:52] <oldtopman> Jdar2: Those words you keep using, FPS and GB, I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
#822 [15:52] <techno156|Phone> You probably would get 10fps max on that thing
#823 [15:52] <Smanly> Maybe 1 FPS
#824 [15:53] <Smanly> and 100mb
#825 [15:53] <rymate1234> Lol
#826 [15:53] <CrusaderDeleters> 500? I can barely get 30 fps on my father's 500.
#827 [15:53] <Jdar2> its pc gamer. but i have a program my friend made that measures fps.
#828 [15:53] <Smanly> ...
#829 [15:53] <Smanly> He made it.
#830 [15:53] <Smanly> right
#831 [15:53] <techno156|Phone> I struggle to get 60 on a 700
#832 [15:53] <rymate1234> XD
#833 [15:53] <rymate1234> Ja
#834 [15:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Man
#835 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Then your friend has no idea how to measure FPS
#836 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Also, minecraft has an ingame FPS counter, by pressing f3
#837 [15:54] <Jdar2> it measures his as well as debug screen does.
#838 [15:54] <rymate1234> Jdar2: I think that program is slightly inaccurate
#839 [15:54] <techno156|Phone> Might be a low-end program
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#841 [15:54] <Jdar2> pc gamer has no f3
#842 [15:54] * oldtopman does not have time to argue this
#842 [15:54] <CrusaderDeleters> I get 120 on my machine! ^.^
#843 [15:54] <Jdar2> bragging
#844 [15:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Exactly. 8D
#845 [15:54] * Jdar2 *RollsEyes*
#845 [15:54] <Smanly> >pc gamer
#846 [15:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Guys, 8D or BD?
#847 [15:54] <rymate1234> I get 20 on my 3gb laptop
#848 [15:54] <Smanly> >netbook
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#850 [15:55] <Jdar2> pc gamer demo.
#851 [15:55] <Smanly> What render distance is benchmarking done at?
#852 [15:55] <Jdar2> -.-
#853 [15:55] <rymate1234> Olol
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#855 [15:55] <Jdar2> far.
#856 [15:55] * techno156|Phone found out using a modpack launches allows him to easily edit the allocated memory, speeding up minecraft
#856 [15:55] <Smanly> What resolution?
#857 [15:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Me? I turn Optifine to the harshest modes.
#858 [15:55] <rymate1234> Jdar2: make a video of it plz
#859 [15:56] <Jdar2> i cant record.... its my moms.
#860 [15:56] <Smanly> k
#861 [15:56] <Jdar2> gotta go
#862 [15:56] * GreyVulpine waves
#862 [15:56] <Smanly> o/
#863 [15:56] <Jdar2> /quit : mom said so.
#864 [15:56] * techno156|Phone waves
#864 [15:56] <techno156|Phone> ...
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#866 [15:56] <Smanly> lol
#867 [15:56] <Smanly> k
#868 [15:57] <rymate1234> something tells me he was troll
#869 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Misguided.
#870 [15:57] <techno156|Phone> Maybe...
#871 [15:57] <rymate1234> bot
#872 [15:57] <rymate1234> *both
#873 [15:58] <techno156|Phone> I think his friend's program only measured the fps it would get, without benchmarking
#874 [15:59] <rymate1234> or maybe it generates random numbers between 50 and 100
#875 [15:59] <CrusaderDeleters> ^^^
#876 [15:59] <oldtopman> XD
#877 [15:59] <techno156|Phone> Maybe
#878 [15:59] <CrusaderDeleters> I've never seen a lappy go above 30.
#879 [15:59] <CrusaderDeleters> And a 500 dollar lappy?
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#881 [15:59] <rymate1234> CrusaderDeleters, Mine reached 31 once :o
#882 [15:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Pfft. My bro's was 800.
#883 [15:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Haha. :P
#884 [16:00] <techno156|Phone> It probably was a low consumption program
#885 [16:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#886 [16:00] <CrusaderDeleters> DONT RUN CREEPER WORLD
#887 [16:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Adobe laggs
#888 [16:01] <Lutzee> I've had my laptop break 100fps..... when i was at y = 6000 and the only thing rendering was the sky and my arm
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#890 [16:01] <rymate1234> lol
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#892 [16:02] <techno156|Phone> My good pc broke 90 fps once... Then it ran out of memory
#893 [16:02] <techno156|Phone> *home
#894 [16:03] <CrusaderDeleters> I made my desky stagnate at 0.
#895 [16:03] <CrusaderDeleters> 104 IndustrialCraft nukes.
#896 [16:03] <rymate1234> I once ran minecraft on a raspberry pi
#897 [16:03] <Lutzee> This is me torturing my graphics card ;) http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ip2wcpVl1r6xe43o1_1280.jpg
#898 [16:03] <Lutzee> oops
#899 [16:03] <Lutzee> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYO6aSyIBXA&feature=plcp
#900 [16:04] <techno156|Phone> XD
#901 [16:04] <rymate1234> I managedd to get it as far as the title screen in UNDER 15 MINUTES
#902 [16:04] <techno156|Phone> Nice...
#903 [16:04] <rymate1234> Lutzee, poor guy
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#906 [16:05] <Lutzee> 20fps while recording with fraps normal render distance etc
#907 [16:05] <techno156|Phone> My internet keeps dropping out across all my devices :(
#908 [16:06] <techno156|Phone> I got optifine and turned off all effects
#909 [16:06] <techno156|Phone> It certainly helped
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#915 [16:33] <Iota> o-o I'm a noob as you would say to owning a server, where do i set up myself being admin
#916 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> either by doing "op yourname" in the console, or adding your player's name in the ops.txt file
#917 [16:34] <Boreeas> In the console, type "op <yourname>"
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#919 [16:35] <Iota> thank you
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#927 [16:54] <Guest26064> I can't log on. It says my user name can't be found
#928 [16:55] <Guest26064> is someone there?
#929 [16:55] <Guest26064> is someone there?
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#932 [16:56] <jennifer> I can't log on. It says my user name can't be found
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#934 [16:57] <Guest77625> what does that mean
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#950 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> I apologise if I spammed the channel with Conversation logs a moment ago
#951 [17:26] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: You didn't.
#952 [17:26] <NinjaKirby> Excellent
#953 [17:27] <NinjaKirby> I thought I had "/disconnect" on my clipboard ready for pasting, but for some reason my Copies don't always work outside my VM from which I started.
#954 [17:27] <NinjaKirby> It's quite annoying, especially when it comes to moving files and they insist on not seeing eye-to-eye.
#955 [17:27] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: I'm quite a fan of irssi myself.
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#957 [17:28] <oldtopman> "are you *sure* you want to paste 112 lines into the channel?"
#958 [17:28] <oldtopman> watno
#959 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> Damn, does sound handy, why did I pay for mIRC.
#960 [17:28] <oldtopman> (he)xchat is the one I use though.
#961 [17:29] <oldtopman> irssi is reserved for my ssh-tunneling irc activities.
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#964 [17:30] <Orlynao> Can someone help me? I use my friend's minecraft sometimes, but he migrated his account to a mojang account. I can't contact him and I don't know the email to log in with, can I do anything to log in? :(
#965 [17:31] <oldtopman> Orlynao: Nope.
#966 [17:31] <NinjaKirby> Aye, I needed to get a separate small plugin to get mIRC connecting securely to some servers.
#967 [17:31] <Orlynao> Well, crap. :/ thanks
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#969 [17:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> NinjaKirby: why DID you pay for mirc? ive been using it for years w/o paying
#970 [17:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#971 [17:35] <Scott> illegal
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#973 [17:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> Scott: aint my fault the program lets me click continue twice
#974 [17:35] <Scott> the EULA doesn't permit that though
#975 [17:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> isnt a cracked version
#976 [17:35] <NinjaKirby> Got tired of the annoying popup when I launched it, sometimes it would say "Continue using for free", sometimes it was "Pay up now", and I'd have to reload it repeatedly
#977 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> Seemed to be random, very irritating
#978 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> Indeed, I could do what WhereIsMySpoon too
#979 [17:36] <Scott> HexChat is free. :)
#980 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> quassel is awesome for the Core functionality it gives though
#981 [17:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> <3 ma Quassel Core
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#989 [17:50] <NinjaKirby> I like how if you load a temporary website image into a tab; even when the Website has taken it down and you save it from your own cache, it *redownloads* it at Broadband speeds.
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#991 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> It can't be grabbing it from the Internet, it's not even there anymore. So it copies from one HDD to another at like maybe 100-200KBps.
#992 [17:51] <Jdar2> lol.
#993 [17:51] <thommmm> hello, my minecraft isnt do anything:(
#994 [17:52] <thommmm> he say bad video card drivers
#995 [17:52] <NinjaKirby> ?? gpu
#996 [17:52] <VoxelHead> gpu: Graphical Processing Unit; also known as one's Video Card or Graphics Adapter. See ?? win/dxdiag for how to get lots of information about yours.
#997 [17:53] <Jdar2> Update your video card drivers
#998 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> Erm, not what I wanted
#999 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> ?? gpu/update
#1000 [17:53] <VoxelHead> gpu/update: You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
#1001 [17:53] <thommmm> how i update it?
#1002 [17:54] <Jdar2> Start Run Dxdiag
#1003 [17:54] <Jdar2> Device manager or online.
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#1005 [17:55] <thommmm> i have dxdiag now
#1006 [17:55] <Jdar2> it should show your GPU Somewhere.
#1007 [17:56] <Jdar2> It would say Intel/ATI/AMD/Nvida some where either of those
#1008 [17:57] <thommmm> i can't find it
#1009 [17:57] <Jdar2> once you find it copy and paste it to google and add updatss to it and download the newest update.
#1010 [17:57] <Jdar2> can you screen shot?
#1011 [17:58] <thommmm> i can copy the info to a site or something
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#1013 [17:58] <Jdar2> copy it to pastebin
#1014 [17:58] <Jdar2> pastebin.com an show me link.
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#1017 [18:00] <thommmm> http://pastebin.com/V8Q7CqDD
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#1019 [18:01] <Jdar2> first line on display devices.
#1020 [18:01] <Jdar2> intel something.
#1021 [18:01] <Jdar2> cant paste it.
#1022 [18:01] <Jdar2> where it says Card Name
#1023 [18:02] <oldtopman> ??> thommmm gpu/intel
#1024 [18:02] <VoxelHead> thommmm: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1025 [18:02] <Jdar2> copy and paste into google and find updates an ddownload and install it.
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#1028 [18:03] <thommmm> i go try
#1029 [18:03] <Jdar2> When installing Quit all open applications or you may mess up your computer.
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#1049 [18:51] <dyn0> any suggestions for 'end of stream' errors? Connected to a friends server last night no problems, trying to get on today and nothing (web client I can log in and play fine, not desktop version though), I tried disabling firewall, restarting everything in my network and computer, etc with no luck
#1050 [18:53] <Jdar2> Might be your friends
#1051 [18:53] <Jdar2> if its a public might be server itself
#1052 [18:53] <Jdar2> they might have a bad connection to you.
#1053 [18:54] <dyn0> even though I got on last night?
#1054 [18:54] <Jdar2> ask them to end server restart there computer check cables etc.
#1055 [18:54] <Jdar2> yeah. could be screwy connection.
#1056 [18:55] <dyn0> hmm, wouldn't connecting in the browser rule that out though?
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#1058 [18:56] <Jdar2_> i crashed.
#1059 [18:56] <dyn0> he restarted the server, and theres 3 people on it, still same problem, can connect via web but not desktop
#1060 [18:56] <Jdar2_> check your cables etc. Are you connected via ethernet or wifi.
#1061 [18:56] <dyn0> appreciate the help btw
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#1064 [18:57] <dyn0> wired, i pinged the server and its fine
#1065 [18:58] <Jdar2_> good i timed myself out. hold on. let me log in aga.
#1066 [18:58] <dyn0> lol
#1067 [18:58] <dyn0> lol
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#1070 [18:58] <Jdar2> back.
#1071 [18:58] <Jdar2> hmmm.
#1072 [18:59] <dyn0> http://co-ui.com:8123/?worldname=eocf14&mapname=flat&zoom=2&x=-43&y=64&z=-30.999999999999996#
#1073 [18:59] <Jdar2> whats that.
#1074 [19:00] <dyn0> a web client based map i guess (can you see the link?, or did it not post?)
#1075 [19:00] <Jdar2> im having problems viewing it. im on a tablet. sorry.
#1076 [19:00] <dyn0> ah
#1077 [19:00] <Jdar2> it loads but its hard to navigate.
#1078 [19:00] <dyn0> no biggie, its just a realtime map of the server world
#1079 [19:00] <Jdar2> ok.
#1080 [19:00] <Jdar2> nice house.
#1081 [19:01] <Jdar2> hmm are you direct connecting?
#1082 [19:01] <dyn0> let me try
#1083 [19:02] <dyn0> no dice
#1084 [19:02] <Jdar2> with ip?
#1085 [19:02] <dyn0> yes
#1086 [19:02] <Jdar2>
#1087 [19:02] <Jdar2> sorry lag.
#1088 [19:02] <Jdar2> can you screen shot?
#1089 [19:03] <dyn0> 1sec
#1090 [19:03] <Jdar2> ok.
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#1093 [19:06] <Jdar2> …
#1094 [19:06] <dyn0> 1sec, apparently photobucket thought it'd be cool to change everything around again
#1095 [19:06] <Jdar2> try tinypic.
#1096 [19:06] <Jdar2> its easier
#1097 [19:07] <dyn0> got it now
#1098 [19:07] <dyn0> http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/dyn0mitemat/IMAG0396_zpsdda553c1.jpg
#1099 [19:07] <Jdar2> are you trolling me?
#1100 [19:07] <dyn0> tinypic host full size images though? picassa/photobucket always downsize them
#1101 [19:07] <dyn0> shit lol, one sec
#1102 [19:07] <Jdar2> its a truck.
#1103 [19:07] <dyn0> http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/dyn0mitemat/mc.png
#1104 [19:07] <dyn0> no shit lol
#1105 [19:08] <dyn0> it copied the wrong link, i hate photobucket
#1106 [19:08] <Jdar2> that helped alot -.- stupid ujeb
#1107 [19:08] <dyn0> is that what you wanted?
#1108 [19:09] <Jdar2> yeah.
#1109 [19:09] <dyn0> ujeb?
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#1111 [19:09] <Jdar2> *jeb
#1112 [19:09] <Jdar2> in beta it showed why it end of streamed.
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#1114 [19:10] <Jdar2> try restarting your computer.
#1115 [19:10] <dyn0> i can again if you'd like, i've tried 3-4 times though
#1116 [19:11] <Jdar2> wait.
#1117 [19:11] <Jdar2> did your friend restart his compute?
#1118 [19:12] <dyn0> his server yes, since then I've tried and can only connect via web
#1119 [19:12] <dyn0> i couldn't connect before either today
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#1121 [19:12] <Jdar2> is it home hosted?
#1122 [19:13] <dyn0> yes he has a dedicated pc set up for it
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#1124 [19:13] <Jdar2> tell him to get everyone off stop the server and restart the s
#1125 [19:13] <Jdar2> computer.
#1126 [19:14] <dyn0> he's afk right now, he tried that once
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#1128 [19:14] <Jdar2> ummm.
#1129 [19:14] <oldtopman> dyn0: Have him delete your player.dat
#1130 [19:14] <Jdar2> SMASH IT. Just kidding.
#1131 [19:15] <dyn0> there a way to tell what version the server is? I'm reading off google if theres a version difference it could cause problems like this
#1132 [19:15] <Jdar2> yeah it should say in console.
#1133 [19:15] <dyn0> will do oldtopman, thanks!
#1134 [19:15] <morpen> Hiya. I'm having a problem connecting to any minecraft server. It always gives an end of stream or a timeout exception. Any suggestions?
#1135 [19:16] <dyn0> your just in time
#1136 [19:16] <dyn0> i'm having the same problems
#1137 [19:16] <Jdar2> Check server status.
#1138 [19:16] <morpen> It actually seems pretty widespread
#1139 [19:16] <Jdar2> help.mojang.com
#1140 [19:17] <Jdar2> dont think its healthy.
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#1142 [19:20] <dyn0> dont think its on my end then?
#1143 [19:20] <Jdar2> might be system wide.
#1144 [19:21] <Jdar2> !ip
#1145 [19:21] <Jdar2> dang it worked lastime
#1146 [19:22] <dyn0> its gotta be, i cannot connect to any servers ATM
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#1150 [19:23] <Jdar2> i cant try.
#1151 [19:23] <morpen> but there's tons of peole on all these other servers I can't join
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#1153 [19:23] <Jdar2> it will saybthat
#1154 [19:24] <Jdar2> but noones on it.
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#1157 [19:25] <dyn0> im getting end of stream on the web client now as well
#1158 [19:25] <Jdar2> its system wide.
#1159 [19:25] <dyn0> problems like this common? (just bought the game last night haha)
#1160 [19:25] <Jdar2> hold let me.
#1161 [19:25] <Jdar2> no.
#1162 [19:26] <Jdar2> dyn0 type /join minecraft
#1163 [19:26] <dyn0> in here?
#1164 [19:27] <Jdar2> yes.
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#1167 [19:30] <ironwolf4> i had messed up my control settings and i was wondering if it was possible to reset them back to normal?
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#1169 [19:30] <Jdar2> in minecraft?
#1170 [19:30] <ironwolf4> yes
#1171 [19:31] <Jdar2> delete options.txt in .minecraft folder
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#1174 [19:32] <ironwolf4> see i had tried to find that but that is not there is there any other ways maybe???
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#1177 [19:33] <dyn0> make sure you can see hidden files in the folder options
#1178 [19:33] <Jdar2> look around in .minecraft for it.
#1179 [19:33] <ironwolf4> i have the options folder will that work too?
#1180 [19:33] <ironwolf4> if i delete it
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#1182 [19:33] <ironwolf4> will the options folder work too then?
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#1184 [19:34] <Jdar2> dont delete .minecraft.
#1185 [19:34] <ironwolf4> i know
#1186 [19:34] <Jdar2> just delete optionas.txt
#1187 [19:34] <ironwolf4> insode the folder of that is an options will that work too?
#1188 [19:34] <ironwolf4> *inside
#1189 [19:34] <ironwolf4> it says options
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#1191 [19:35] <dyn0> turn on view file extensions in folder options
#1192 [19:35] <ironwolf4> i think it will i just want verification
#1193 [19:36] <ironwolf4> will the options folder work in .minecraft?
#1194 [19:37] <ironwolf4> so that will work then... worth a shot i suppose
#1195 [19:37] <dyn0> idk, let jdar answer that, but its probably right (you're just not seeing the .txt i have a feeling)
#1196 [19:37] <ironwolf4> its not there
#1197 [19:38] <ironwolf4> nope .txt not there
#1198 [19:38] <dyn0> because you probably have the folder options hiding the file extensions
#1199 [19:38] <ironwolf4> tshould i try the options might be the same thing so i will then
#1200 [19:38] <ironwolf4> thanks
#1201 [19:38] <Jdar2> you have xp or 7
#1202 [19:38] <ironwolf4> i believe 7
#1203 [19:38] <ironwolf4> thanks
#1204 [19:38] <ironwolf4> i will delete it
#1205 [19:39] <ironwolf4> here goes nothing :)
#1206 [19:39] <Jdar2> ok.
#1207 [19:39] <ironwolf4> i deleted it :D
#1208 [19:39] <ironwolf4> im not sure if it worked.... -_-
#1209 [19:39] <dyn0> lol
#1210 [19:39] <ironwolf4> lets find out!
#1211 [19:39] <dyn0> hit control+z
#1212 [19:39] <ironwolf4> ok
#1213 [19:40] <dyn0> and cut the file (control+x)
#1214 [19:40] <ironwolf4> im checking if it worked now...
#1215 [19:40] <dyn0> that way you can get it back if you need to
#1216 [19:40] <ironwolf4> it did thank you
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#1218 [19:43] <jacklol> i cant connect to any servers. i can only connect to servers that end in :25565. this has been happening for about a month. PLEASE HELP
#1219 [19:44] <jacklol> IS ANYONE EVEN ON?
#1220 [19:44] <jacklol> oops caps
#1221 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> Really? Even though you are putting Colon ':' then the port number succeeding the IP/Domain Name?
#1222 [19:45] <jacklol> can you please put domain name simpler
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#1225 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> Erm, there isn't any issues with Domain Name + Port, if that's what you're asking :)
#1226 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> If this is happening to multiple servers, then DNS Caching trouble is out.
#1227 [19:47] <jacklol> any fixes?
#1228 [19:48] <jacklol> my friends can get on the servers
#1229 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Disabling Firewall is the only thing that comes to mind, as generic as the thought is
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#1234 [19:59] <jacklol> ninjakirby, i dont have firewalls on and i still can't get on
#1235 [20:01] <jacklol> ninjakirby, are you on?
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#1239 [20:03] <dyn0> somethings off, its not you, theres a bunch of people that cant connect
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#1244 [20:05] <Jdar2> same
#1245 [20:05] <Jdar2> end of stream. might be down
#1246 [20:05] <jacklol> HI
#1247 [20:05] <Jdar2> No caps please.
#1248 [20:06] <jacklol> oops
#1249 [20:06] <Jdar2> if you do it again youll be kicked (not by me) its automatic by voxelhead
#1250 [20:06] <dani09> i would like to buy the minecraft pc but idk if it'll run/work on my Asus transformer,, does anyone know if so or not
#1251 [20:06] <Jdar2> voxelhead is a bot.
#1252 [20:07] <Jdar2> whats the specs?
#1253 [20:07] <jacklol> i cant get on any servers. i can get on servers that end in :25565, but all the other servers my friends can get on. please help.
#1254 [20:08] <Jdar2> be patant its a mojang problem.
#1255 [20:08] <Jdar2> we cant do anything.
#1256 [20:09] <jacklol> who should i go to?
#1257 [20:09] <dani09> i do not know if your asking me
#1258 [20:09] <Jdar2> dani09: whats your specs?
#1259 [20:10] <Jdar2> jacklol: just wait.
#1260 [20:10] <dani09> where can i look to see that to let you know
#1261 [20:11] <Jdar2> do you have it?
#1262 [20:11] <Jdar2> if so is it windows xp vista 7 or 8
#1263 [20:12] <jacklol> dani just download and play offline for free and see if that works
#1264 [20:12] <Jdar2> or that.
#1265 [20:12] <dani09> the demo doesn't even show up..
#1266 [20:12] <Jdar2> what?
#1267 [20:12] <Jdar2> can you screen shot
#1268 [20:12] <jacklol> just press download
#1269 [20:12] <dani09> no matter how many times i refresh the page
#1270 [20:13] <Jdar2> dani do you have java?
#1271 [20:13] <dani09> the buy only shows an the demo doesnt show
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#1273 [20:13] <jacklol> download is under play minecraft
#1274 [20:14] <dani09> i youtube to see what the page should show but it just doesn't show the demo
#1275 [20:14] <Jdar2> !java Dani09
#1276 [20:14] <Jdar2> Dani09 !Java
#1277 [20:15] <Jdar2> dang it goto www.java.com download and install
#1278 [20:15] <dani09> in the setting i have enable java script soo yes?
#1279 [20:16] <Jdar2> try updating.
#1280 [20:17] <dani09> my asus transformer is all update that i do know
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#1282 [20:18] <Jdar2> hmmm.
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#1284 [20:19] <dani09> ya i don't know
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#1287 [20:22] <dani09> 've read you need windows, that i do not have. can that be the reason?
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#1302 [21:13] <MekaD53> I am trying to register for a new account. Even though both password fields match, the system warns me that they do not and the "register" button is greyed out. It is impossible for me to register for a new account. Any ideas?
#1303 [21:14] <Jdar2> whats it say
#1304 [21:14] <Jdar2> we cant help you. see http://is.gd/mc_acct
#1305 [21:14] <Jdar2> sorry.
#1306 [21:15] <MekaD53> Who can??
#1307 [21:15] <Lutzee> MekaD53: if the system says they do not match then they do not match, computers do what we tell them to do
#1308 [21:15] <MekaD53> No, they do match. I tried just a single digit as the password and still got the warning. Its not a matter of them not matching.
#1309 [21:15] <Jdar2> try Checking the password you put.
#1310 [21:16] <Lutzee> MekaD53: chances are the warning is being thrown also because the password is too short
#1311 [21:16] <Lutzee> MekaD53: Also take note of this for password strength http://xkcd.com/936/
#1312 [21:17] <MekaD53> No, its not too short. I tried many, many passwords. After the 1st keystroke, the warning comes up and never goes away. I don't think its a matter of PW strength, but I'll try something more complicated even though a few of my attmpts were strong.
#1313 [21:18] <MekaD53> Nope; its not PW strength; I just tried that too. Its for my son; I think we are going to give up. Thanks anyway.
#1314 [21:18] <Lutzee> MekaD53: which site are you attempting to sign up on?
#1315 [21:18] <Lutzee> oh wait never mind
#1316 [21:18] <MekaD53> https://account.mojang.com/register?agent=minecraft
#1317 [21:19] <Jdar2> wrong one?
#1318 [21:19] <MekaD53> ???
#1319 [21:19] <Lutzee> No the correct one
#1320 [21:20] <Jdar2> isnt minecraft.net/register
#1321 [21:20] <Lutzee> MekaD53: I'm not having any problems with getting the passwords to match
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#1323 [21:21] <Jdar2> oh that was old one lol
#1324 [21:22] <Lutzee> Yes, all accounts are made as mojang.com accounts now, so they are all safer :p
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#1326 [21:22] <MekaD53> I get the same problem. Warning that PWs don't match even though they do. I'm going to try a different computer. Thanks much.
#1327 [21:23] * Lutzee is suspecting some bad unicode characters were making their way into his password
#1327 [21:23] <Lutzee> Or maybe spaces
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#1332 [21:31] <rcockerham> I have to children that want to access Minecraft. Do I have to purchase multiple copies? I don't want them to access each other's worlds though.
#1333 [21:32] <Lutzee> Um, Even if you have seperate copies, if they use the same windows user account the worlds will be visable, which means you can use the same minecraft account on different windows user logins and not have access to each others worlds
#1334 [21:33] <Lutzee> What they won't however be able to do is play on the same server without sharing the same charater on that server
#1335 [21:35] <rcockerham> So my best bet (cause I don't want them to fight - 6yrs and 9yrs) is to create to windows logins.
#1336 [21:35] <Lutzee> Correct, much easier
#1337 [21:35] <rcockerham> Very much appreciate the help. Kind regards.
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#1342 [21:47] <Hystori> (so I like eavesdropping on my players) I heard minecraft wiki was attacked or something, and some people accounts might be compromised? What's that all about?
#1343 [21:48] <Jdar2> Malisouis JS?
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#1345 [21:49] <Jdar2> *? meant to be .
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#1349 [21:51] <anakallia> how long does a transaction purchase take to go through when purchasing minecraft. bought it two days ago and it say i didn't buy it.
#1350 [21:53] <Jdar2|ORC> You stumped me. im only technical.
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#1352 [21:54] <TheNoodle> anakallia, payment method?
#1353 [21:54] <anakallia> visa card
#1354 [21:54] <Jdar2|ORC> howed you get voice?
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#1356 [21:55] <TheNoodle> anakallia, sometimes banks block international transactions, call your bank and make sure the payment went through.
#1357 [21:55] <TheNoodle> Jdar2|ORC, I've been here for a while.
#1358 [21:55] <Jdar2|ORC> oh.
#1359 [21:56] <TheNoodle> (1 year, 15 weeks)
#1360 [21:56] <Jdar2|ORC> Wow.....
#1361 [21:56] <anakallia> hmm, well hopefully it'll go thru soon. i play 360 version, but i'd rather be on computer
#1362 [21:56] <Jdar2|ORC> pc is better
#1363 [21:57] <anakallia> yeah, i've been dying to pay it....wish i had a pc lol
#1364 [21:57] <anakallia> *play
#1365 [21:57] <Jdar2|ORC> I have a **** pc.
#1366 [21:57] <Lutzee> anakallia: Phone your bank and ask, if they have blocked it, it won't go through.
#1367 [21:57] <Jdar2|ORC> its a netbook. its my moms.
#1368 [21:58] <anakallia> yea, the bank has it listed as "moneybookers london"
#1369 [21:58] <anakallia> so it may take a bit lol
#1370 [21:59] <Jdar2|ORC> isnt listed as minecraft?
#1371 [21:59] <Lutzee> The payment will appear as moneybookers on the bank statement
#1372 [21:59] <anakallia> no its not, which is why i'm confused alittle
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#1374 [21:59] <Lutzee> Moneybookers is the company Mojang uses to process the visa payments, as mojang is such a small company
#1375 [22:00] <anakallia> this is so not related to what we're discussing, but i like the layout to this chat
#1376 [22:00] <Jdar2|ORC> Lol i know right.
#1377 [22:01] <Lutzee> Lol, both of you are using webchat
#1378 [22:01] <Lutzee> There are even nicer desktop clients available :P
#1379 [22:01] <anakallia> so, i'm not sure how long i should wait. it's still pending in my account. but i thought the website would have registered that i had purchased it...so weir
#1380 [22:01] <Lutzee> Mojang will only make an account premium once they have received the money
#1381 [22:02] <Jdar2|ORC> im on a nook tablet no client for me.
#1382 [22:02] <anakallia> ah...i see...back to 360 i go til its thru lol
#1383 [22:02] <Jdar2|ORC> how is mojang SMALL?
#1384 [22:03] <Lutzee> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/xchat.png
#1385 [22:03] <anakallia> tablet sounds like it'd be a challenge lol
#1386 [22:03] <Lutzee> Jdar2|ORC: The company comprimises of only about 50 or so people
#1387 [22:03] <Lutzee> Also that was a pic of my client
#1388 [22:03] <Jdar2|ORC> i get ?
#1389 [22:03] <Lutzee> Or has PS just failed? >.>
#1390 [22:04] <Lutzee> There https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/xchat.png
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#1392 [22:07] <anakallia> i wish there were villagers in the 360 version....they're like little ghost towns :P
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#1394 [22:09] <Jdar2|ORC> http://www.i49.tinypic.com/351xveh.jpg
#1395 [22:09] <Jdar2|ORC> ...
#1396 [22:10] <Lutzee> which site are you on o.o
#1397 [22:10] <Jdar2|ORC> what
#1398 [22:10] <Jdar2|ORC> is it showing.
#1399 [22:10] <Lutzee> yeah
#1400 [22:10] <Jdar2|ORC> i cant see it.
#1401 [22:10] <Lutzee> i mean, most people get to just webchat.esper.net
#1402 [22:11] <Jdar2|ORC> im on esper.net/publicirc.php
#1403 [22:11] <Lutzee> Ahh right..
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#1405 [22:12] <Jdar2|ORC> whats diff.
#1406 [22:12] <Lutzee> webchat.esper.net will use the whole browser window, and will have white text on a black background by default
#1407 [22:14] <Jdar2|ORC> let me switch.
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#1414 [22:15] <Guest96159> gotta auth
#1415 [22:15] <Guest96159> crud.
#1416 [22:15] <Guest96159> -.-
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#1418 [22:16] <jdar2> yay.
#1419 [22:16] <jdar2> /join codorc
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#1427 [23:08] <Jdar2> where do i advertise servers?
#1428 [23:08] <TheNoodle> #smp
#1429 [23:08] <Jdar2> cuase im gonna 127 troll.
#1430 [23:09] <TheNoodle> :|
#1431 [23:10] <Jdar2> what?
#1432 [23:10] <Jdar2> .
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#1438 [23:23] <COLDFiRE> is anyone here?
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#1440 [23:26] <COLDFiRE> Okay, I need some help with some coding. Which class file is the coding for the intro when you open Minecraft?
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#1447 [23:43] <bobleq> why isnt the link to download for linux doing anything when i click on it
#1448 [23:45] <bobleq> Ive already bought the game, but when I try to click on minecraft.jar nothing happens
#1449 [23:45] <bobleq> Ive already bought the game, but when I try to click on minecraft.jar nothing happens
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#1452 [23:46] <COLDFiRE> Hello?
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