#MinecraftHelp > 2012-11-11
#1 [00:00] <ziggy78eog> http://pastebin.com/FSpEfufy
#2 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM is on that computer?
#3 [00:02] <ziggy78eog> 5 GB
#4 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> RAM, not hard drive space
#5 [00:03] <ziggy78eog> 5 GB
#6 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> You do not have 5 GB of RAM.
#7 [00:05] <[MethoS]> not possible
#8 [00:05] <ziggy78eog> I am looking at "installed memory" on my system, and it is telling my 5 GB
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#10 [00:05] <[MethoS]> then you have a RAM problem...
#11 [00:06] <[MethoS]> GreyVulpine, same error after running w/ Sun java 7
#12 [00:06] <ziggy78eog> gee, sorry my paltry amount of RAM is not enough
#13 [00:06] <__import__> ziggy78eog, what is your startup? Just double clicking? Is your client using high resolution texture packs?
#14 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> [MethoS] - Could you try updating the lwjgl files in .minecraft. Follow the instructions at: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#15 [00:07] <__import__> Do you have other apps useing significant physical RAM?
#16 [00:07] <ziggy78eog> I just use the the texture pack that comes with the game
#17 [00:07] <__import__> No client mods at all?
#18 [00:07] <monkeytaco> Hey. I have an OpenGL error. Before you ask, I have the latest java, DirectX, and graphics driver. According to OpenGL Extensions Viewer, I only have OpenGL 1.1, but the website of the graphics card (NVIDIA) says that my card should support the latest OpenGL release.
#19 [00:08] <monkeytaco> tl;dr I think my driver is updating everything BUT OpenGL
#20 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - Pastebin.com the error report
#21 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Also, what video card do you have?
#22 [00:08] <ziggy78eog> I'm not aware of any other app that could eat up that much RAM, that I am running at the same time as Minecraft.
#23 [00:08] <monkeytaco> NVIDIA GeForece GT 545
#24 [00:08] <monkeytaco> http://pastebin.com/EzY8KUND
#25 [00:09] <VoxelHead> monkeytaco: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#26 [00:09] <VoxelHead> monkeytaco: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#27 [00:09] <__import__> ziggy78eog, are you able to get in-game at all?
#28 [00:09] <ziggy78eog> any way of telling where all the RAM is going to?
#29 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - Give us a dxdiag with VoxelHead's instructions
#30 [00:09] <monkeytaco> One sec.
#31 [00:09] <__import__> Yea, a program called Process Explorer, if you are on windows.
#32 [00:10] <__import__> Basically same as task manager, but 1000000% better.
#33 [00:10] <__import__> (IMHO)
#34 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Add a few more zeros.
#35 [00:10] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#35 [00:10] <monkeytaco> http://pastebin.com/QjZ7YdiG
#36 [00:11] <monkeytaco> I've been at this for about a week now.
#37 [00:12] <monkeytaco> I think I might just have to get a new card.
#38 [00:12] <__import__> GreyVulpine, have you used it?
#39 [00:12] <__import__> Or are you trolling me :P
#40 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> __import__ - It's a staple in my USB toolkit
#41 [00:12] <__import__> =D
#42 [00:13] <ziggy78eog> I downloaded it, but have no idea what I am looking at.
#43 [00:13] <__import__> That and Process Monitor
#44 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - Did you update your driver from: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/49949
#45 [00:13] <monkeytaco> Yes
#46 [00:13] <__import__> ziggy78eog, you'll get a zip. Open the zip, and run the exe there.
#47 [00:13] <__import__> You'll see a tree of processes, sortable by their headings.
#48 [00:13] <ziggy78eog> I did
#49 [00:14] <__import__> Click on the "Working Set" column header.
#50 [00:14] <monkeytaco> http://i48.tinypic.com/2lu8msw.png
#51 [00:14] <ziggy78eog> okay
#52 [00:14] <__import__> Top of the list will be the app using most memory, tho that includes cached.
#53 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - Then I'd try a beta driver from nvidia: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/50294
#54 [00:15] <monkeytaco> Tried that too...
#55 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you do a clean install through the installer?
#56 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Rather than doing an express install, try doing a custom one. You'll then get a checkbox for a clean install.
#57 [00:16] <monkeytaco> I did.
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#59 [00:17] <monkeytaco> I also tried removing the driver using DriverSweep in Safe Mode, and selecting clean install after that.
#60 [00:17] <Noobularkid> I need help with my account if anyone is there
#61 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - Strange. Tried an older version as well?
#62 [00:18] <monkeytaco> Yep.
#63 [00:18] <monkeytaco> I tried the one before this.
#64 [00:18] <ziggy78eog> the biggest user is just called "system"
#65 [00:18] <monkeytaco> I've probably restarted my computer maybe 15 times in the past 2-3 days.
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#68 [00:19] <monkeytaco> I have a thread on MPGH and Minecraft Forum. No one has any idea.
#69 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> monkeytaco - I don't know then. That video card should be plenty powerful for minecraft. There's something screwy with nvidia's driver then.
#70 [00:20] <ziggy78eog> I take that back, the biggest is firefix
#71 [00:20] <monkeytaco> Yes there is.
#72 [00:20] <Noobularkid> GreyVulpine , My Accojunt ONCE AGAIN is screwy , well basicly my account was migrated , but not be me , and its not to my account made when i bought minecraft(in alpha) so i dont know
#73 [00:20] <Noobularkid> And im using a stupid program for irc because on minecraft.net the button to the irc doesnt work
#74 [00:20] <JT1000> i need help with a game called Fallout 3 plz.
#75 [00:21] <ziggy78eog> followed by svchost
#76 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> JT1000 - This isn't the place for fallout 3 support.
#77 [00:21] <JT1000> where then?
#78 [00:21] <Noobularkid> Grey Vulpine , Can i get some help?
#79 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Noobularkid - You'll need to contact Mojang support for account troubleshooting then
#80 [00:22] <ziggy78eog> So, the problem might be that I cannot run Minecraft and Firefox at the same time?
#81 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Noobularkid - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#82 [00:22] <[MethoS]> GreyVulpine, still no go after lwjgl install
#83 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> JT1000 - We can't tell you. Try google. This is #minecrafthelp
#84 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> JT1000 - We can't tell you. Try google. This is #minecrafthelp
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#86 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> [MethoS] - Hmm. Same issue?
#87 [00:22] <[MethoS]> yep
#88 [00:22] <Noobularkid> GreyVulpine , How do i get the transaction id ... did they even give them out in alpha?
#89 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#90 [00:23] <monkeytaco> But NVIDIA doesn't offer tech support since I bought it with a system, Alienware sends me to Dell because I bought my system after '09, and Dell sends me to their Alienware department who sends me to their game department because it's ONLY an issue with Minecraft, and they want me to pay $130 to come out and fix it.
#91 [00:23] <[MethoS]> ClassNotFound Exception
#92 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> It's the receipt number you would've gotten in the email after you purchased it through paypal
#93 [00:24] <__import__> ziggy78eog, how much is firefox using?
#94 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> [MethoS] - Try deleting/moving the ~/.minecraft folder, redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download and execute it again?
#95 [00:24] <[MethoS]> ok
#96 [00:26] <monkeytaco> Not to mention that Tech Support is included with my warranty (but Gaming support is a seperate department) which expires at the end of the year.
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#98 [00:26] <monkeytaco> So I'm really pissed off.
#99 [00:26] <monkeytaco> Oh well. No point in ranting. Thanks.
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#101 [00:29] <Noobularkid> Greyvulpine , I dont have a recipt from 1 1/2 years to, 2 years ago D: (Most likely i dont) ...
#102 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> If you had a paypal account, you could look up your transaction history through that, which would have it.
#103 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, you could request your credit card's history, which most likely would have it as part of the transaction history as well
#104 [00:31] <[MethoS]> GreyVulpine, no good
#105 [00:31] <Noobularkid> GreyVulpine , doesn't after so long your Paypal purchased items just disapear?
#106 [00:31] <[MethoS]> it's not downloading anything when MC runs
#107 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Noobularkid - Shouldn't..
#108 [00:32] <Noobularkid> MethoS , Try loading the game in the web version getting the files from there then loading it from the client
#109 [00:32] <[MethoS]> ok
#110 [00:33] <[MethoS]> worth a shot
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#114 [00:43] <Noobularkid> GreyVulpine , i got the transaction id , i already sent an email though.... any way i can add it to it?
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#117 [00:47] <Frostic> Noobularkid you might want to resend that message GreyVulpine kinda pinged out
#118 [00:48] <Frostic> ok i guess he is not going to ask it again lol
#119 [00:52] <Noobularkid> ... yea i already sent it before i saw you say anything , thanks anyways
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#157 [02:56] <Stephano> hi,guys
#158 [02:57] <Stephano> Is anyone here?
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#169 [03:44] <metalstorm72> Hello? Anyone know how to get your skin? I lost the file ages ago and need to save it
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#183 [04:56] <Noobularkid> GreyVulpine , Are you online first , and are you aloud to look at the emails? because i dont know how long im going to wait for ...
#184 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that he works for Mojang
#185 [04:57] * TheNoodle shakes his head
#185 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> There is only one person who comes here with access to accounts and emails, and he isn't here right now, or often
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#188 [05:03] <Frostic> ya mark is not here. he is the only official mojang employee. the rest of us are just volenteers that try to help to the best of our abilities
#189 [05:03] <Noobularkid> well i know grey sent me an email from the mojang email thing ...
#190 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Noobularkid: The most he could have done is to use your username to have Mojang send you an email about forgotten usernames
#191 [05:05] <Frostic> ^^
#192 [05:05] <Frostic> DiskDaemon is allways right. untill his woman says otherwise right DiskDaemon?
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#194 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> damn straight
#195 [05:06] <Frostic> hehe
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#197 [05:08] <Noobularkid> well who deals with accounts because i sent in the transaction id , that form and i want my account..... the last like 6 months ive been dealing with bullshit .. shit ... with my account
#198 [05:09] <Frostic> please calm down
#199 [05:09] <DiskDaemon> Frostic: I prefer to ask that we please keep it civil in here
#200 [05:09] <Frostic> ok good idea sorry
#201 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> Noobularkid: It's okay to be upset, that's perfectly cromulent. What's not okay though is taking it out on the volunteers in this channel who are try to help
#202 [05:11] <rymate1234> What's up with Noobularkid?
#203 [05:12] <Noobularkid> well... who deals with accounts....again
#204 [05:12] <Frostic> Noobularkid: please keep it civil, so that we can assist you if we can. ok so you say you sent in your transaction id using the support form i presume?
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#206 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Noobularkid: Sorry, but a live person who deals with accounts isn't here. Someone occasionally comes in as a form of stress relief to relax for a while, but not apart from that
#207 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Noobularkid: Sorry, but a live person who deals with accounts isn't here. Someone occasionally comes in as a form of stress relief to relax for a while, but not apart from that
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#209 [05:14] <Frostic> im sorry to say this but if you sent in a support form with transaction id soforth then you will be sad to know it will take support from 5 to 7 days to get a reply as they are slammed with work atm. so many people all over the world need help so that kinda slows down the process
#210 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> Wow - that's improved dramatically. It used to be 3 months
#211 [05:16] <Frostic> yea they are fixing it
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#213 [05:17] <Frostic> Noobularkid so what exactly is the issue you are having?
#214 [05:23] <rymate1234> Noobularkid: ^
#215 [05:23] <Frostic> DiskDaemon so my pc fails on somany levels it crashes randomly and is a general pain in the wingwang so here soon im ordering a alienware aroura from best buy. do you think it is efficiant enough to run minecraft full screen? my current pc can only run in windowed because my monitor is huge.
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#217 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't go with alienware, especially since they are now a part of dell
#218 [05:25] <Calinou> alienwart and dell are both evil
#219 [05:25] <Frostic> omg i hate dell too :( <---- heart just shattered
#220 [05:25] <Calinou> as any mainstream manufacturer
#221 [05:25] <rymate1234> Make your own pc
#222 [05:25] <rymate1234> XD
#223 [05:25] <Calinou> build a PC, or buy a computer from a good manufacturer that doesn't partition your brain
#224 [05:26] <Calinou> rymate1234: what if you want a laptop :P
#225 [05:26] <Frostic> i cant
#226 [05:26] <Frostic> i need to be able to do payment plans
#227 [05:26] <rymate1234> Olol
#228 [05:27] <Frostic> im on disability so my funds are limited per month i can pay max $300 a month
#229 [05:27] <rymate1234> :(
#230 [05:27] <Frostic> ikr
#231 [05:28] * Frostic crys
#231 [05:29] <Frostic> any other brand name i should check out at best by? they allow me to buy using payment plans. im not a computer guy so i dont know a good game pc from a bad one lol
#232 [05:29] <Frostic> best buy*
#233 [05:31] <rymate1234> I'm not that clued up when it comes to hardware
#234 [05:31] <Frostic> my current pc is an hp <---- hence why it crashes randomly
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#236 [05:33] <rymate1234> Nvidia graphics are apparently good
#237 [05:33] <smiba> Hi
#238 [05:33] <smiba> Can someone help me with this bug?
#239 [05:33] <smiba> https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-2727
#240 [05:34] <smiba> Since they say its not a minecraft bug. But i say it is.
#241 [05:34] <smiba> Its not removing the chunks from my memory --> Out of memory loop
#242 [05:34] <smiba> http://youtu.be/I5ARjfj9vKA (Demonstration. Skip to 1:30 if you want to see0
#243 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> you're recording video at the same time as the problem occurs?
#244 [05:35] <smiba> Yes, But it also happens when i'm not
#245 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> The log from your bug report has a problem with fraps, which is why I ask.
#246 [05:36] <smiba> Should i send you the errorlog within fraps?
#247 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> And no doubt that's why you were told that it's not to do with Minecraft
#248 [05:36] <smiba> *Without
#249 [05:37] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#250 [05:37] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#251 [05:37] <smiba> Its an older one.
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#253 [05:37] <smiba> http://pastebin.com/Q0m4bFai
#254 [05:37] <Frostic> DiskDaemon http://www.bestbuy.com/site/CyberPowerPC+-+Gamer+Ultra+Desktop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/4686573.p?id=1218508110441&skuId=4686573&st=/&cp=2&lp=7 does this look good for playing minecraft?
#255 [05:38] <Frostic> i already have a 42 inck hd monitor to go with it
#256 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> it should have no problems
#257 [05:38] <rymate1234> Frostic: looks good to me
#258 [05:38] <smiba> Frostic: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 graphics. Not bad.
#259 [05:38] <Frostic> cool cool thankyou guys.
#260 [05:38] <smiba> Its the same as i have
#261 [05:39] <smiba> It useally runs at about 30-90 FPS (On far)
#262 [05:39] <Frostic> so good pc then awesome. im ordering it now
#263 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> smiba: That crash log indicates that your graphics drivers are too old
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#265 [05:40] <smiba> DiskDaemon: Based on?
#266 [05:40] <DiskDaemon> smiba: Based on the "problematic frame" and the dll being from your graphics drivers
#267 [05:40] <DiskDaemon> kinda obvious that
#268 [05:41] <smiba> Hmm.. It always worked. What graphic card? The HD3000 or GeForce GT 520M?
#269 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> we can get further info about that though with your help
#270 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> smiba win/dxdiag
#271 [05:41] <VoxelHead> smiba: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#272 [05:41] <VoxelHead> smiba: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#273 [05:42] <smiba> Okay. Running now
#274 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> smiba: Hang on, the exception occurs when it's reading a memory address - that points to a potential hardware problem
#275 [05:43] <Frostic> hahaha please allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery? lmao i live in the same state why it would take that long boggles the mind haha
#276 [05:44] <smiba> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/hcq8vrqd
#277 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> So the graphics card drivers having trobule reading an address from memory, that's not a good thing. There's lots of boding there. Bode bode.
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#279 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> smiba: It looks like Minecraft is using your Intel graphics chip
#280 [05:45] <Frostic> smiba VoxelHead is a bot by the way :D
#281 [05:45] <smiba> DiskDaemon: It switches.
#282 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> smiba: Does your notebook have switchable graphics? Ahh
#283 [05:45] <smiba> Ah x3
#284 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> ??> smiba gpu/discrete
#285 [05:45] <VoxelHead> smiba: (gpu/discrete) Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#286 [05:45] <VoxelHead> smiba: (gpu/discrete) Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#287 [05:46] <smiba> Wait.. I can check if he is running on my NVIDIA.
#288 [05:46] <Frostic> laptops. the evil brand of pc.
#289 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> smiba: Is ig4icd32.dll on your nvidia?
#290 [05:47] <smiba> DiskDaemon: Not sure.
#291 [05:48] <smiba> Lemme check
#292 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> No, it's not. It's intel
#293 [05:48] <Frostic> ig4icd32.dll is a OpenGL belonging to Intel Graphics Accelerator Drivers for Windows Vista(R) from Intel Corporation Non-system processes like ig4icd32.dll originate from software you installed on your system.
#294 [05:49] <smiba> Ugh. Forgot windows 8 has no sidebar
#295 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> smiba: Go with that gpu/discrete info
#296 [05:49] <smiba> DiskDaemon: ?
#297 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> ??> smiba gpu/discrete
#298 [05:49] <VoxelHead> smiba: (gpu/discrete) Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#299 [05:49] <VoxelHead> smiba: (gpu/discrete) Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#300 [05:49] <smiba> Ah ;P
#301 [05:49] <Frostic> do as the bot VoxelHead says
#302 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead knows all
#303 [05:50] * DiskDaemon bows and scrapes before the mighty VoxelHead
#303 [05:50] <smiba> Smart bot you have there
#304 [05:50] <Frostic> no he knows what he is programmed to know :P
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#306 [05:50] <DiskDaemon> smart programmers
#307 [05:50] <smiba> xD
#308 [05:50] <Calinou> more smarter than driver programmers
#309 [05:50] <Frostic> ??> frostic pizza prices
#310 [05:50] <Calinou> "more smarter", yey english
#311 [05:51] <Frostic> yep he dont know everything :P
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#313 [05:52] <smiba> I have the newst Intel driver.
#314 [05:52] <smiba> *Newest
#315 [05:52] <smiba> (Sorry for my English.)
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#317 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> smiba: I suggest that you ensure that you're using the nvidia card with Minecraft instead
#318 [05:53] <Frostic> ya
#319 [05:53] <Frostic> do this change a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU and see if that helps
#320 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> You set things up so that when the laptop is receiving external power (it's plugged in) that it always uses the better GPU
#321 [05:55] <smiba> DiskDaemon: Lemme install the full NVIDIA driver (I currently have the microsoft WDDM v1.2 driver)
#322 [05:56] <Frostic> ouch
#323 [05:56] <smiba> NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.2)
#324 [05:57] <Frostic> ya get drivrs from nvidia i never let microsoft install them. mirconuts dont allways install the best drivers
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#326 [05:58] <smiba> Downloading @ 2.7MB/s
#327 [05:58] <Calinou> nice connection you have there
#328 [05:58] <Frostic> ya
#329 [05:58] <smiba> I can go faster ^^
#330 [05:58] <Calinou> Frostic: if you hate microsoft, switch to linux :P
#331 [05:58] * Calinou didn't say the linux drivers were necessarily better
#331 [05:58] <Frostic> lol
#332 [05:59] <smiba> Max speed. (Just tested) 3.6MB/s Down - 450KB/s Up
#333 [05:59] <Frostic> if i was going to change id go mac not lisux
#334 [05:59] <Frostic> linsux
#335 [05:59] <smiba> And the downloaded finished. Install ^^
#336 [06:00] <Calinou> Frostic: it doesn't
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#339 [06:01] <Frostic> last time i did an nvidia install it required a reboot. lets see if they fixed that
#340 [06:01] <Frostic> my amd card didnt require a reboot
#341 [06:03] <Frostic> Calinou i have used many distros of linux and found it very sad using wine to play games. im a gamer and linux just dont cut it
#342 [06:04] <Calinou> using wine breaks the whole point of linux: freedom
#343 [06:04] <Calinou> if you're trying to run AAA/commercial games on linux you're doing it wrong
#344 [06:04] <Frostic> my download speed is 10.5 but i only get a max of 2mbit per download
#345 [06:04] * Calinou plays on linux
#345 [06:05] <smiba> I was talking about MB. Not Mbit :P
#346 [06:05] <Calinou> Mb != MB
#347 [06:05] <Frostic> mbit is mb
#348 [06:06] <Calinou> personally to avoid confusion I sometimes say "M" for megabytes, "mb" for megabits
#349 [06:06] <smiba> Nope. There is an differance between MB and Mb
#350 [06:06] <Calinou> not the best way to avoid confusion
#351 [06:06] <smiba> Calinou: True
#352 [06:06] <Frostic> so mbit dont mean megabytes?
#353 [06:07] <smiba> No.
#354 [06:07] <Frostic> then im about to sue my internet company they said i have 10,5 mbit download and he explained it as megabytes.
#355 [06:07] <smiba> Mbit to MB = (Something like) Mbit / 9.5
#356 [06:08] <smiba> Even google says it
#357 [06:08] <smiba> bit.ly/TorM4D
#358 [06:08] <smiba> http://www.bit.ly/TorM4D
#359 [06:09] <smiba> Need to restart
#360 [06:09] <smiba> BRB
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#362 [06:09] <Frostic> omg they lied to me
#363 [06:10] <Frostic> i said i wanted fiberoptics and they jew me giving me 1.2 megabytes a second?
#364 [06:11] <Frostic> seems im making a very extremly mad call this morning
#365 [06:12] <Calinou> there are two kinds of optic fiber: 100mbit and 30mbit
#366 [06:13] <Calinou> (theorical speeds of course)
#367 [06:13] <Calinou> the late smiba, mbit to mbyte is mbit / 8
#368 [06:13] <Calinou> be happy, my connection's speeds is 3.6/0.3 megabits
#369 [06:13] <Calinou> (down/up)
#370 [06:13] <Frostic> well they told me i would get 10 megabytes a second download
#371 [06:14] <Calinou> ISPs always lie 8)
#372 [06:14] <Frostic> what is a test site?
#373 [06:14] <Frostic> to test my speed
#374 [06:14] <Frostic> etc
#375 [06:15] <Calinou> speedtest.net
#376 [06:15] <Calinou> (requires flash)
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#378 [06:16] <smiba> Done installling.
#379 [06:16] <Frostic> ok so here is my results
#380 [06:16] <Frostic> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2300394424.png
#381 [06:16] <Calinou> O_o your ping
#382 [06:16] <Frostic> ?
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#384 [06:17] <Calinou> 6ms ping, this is awesome..
#385 [06:17] <Frostic> its allways this low
#386 [06:17] <Calinou> your download/upload is 3x faster than mine, too :P
#387 [06:17] <smiba> ? Who's ping?
#388 [06:17] <Calinou> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2300396484.png
#389 [06:17] <Calinou> beat this
#390 [06:17] <Calinou> smiba: Frostic's
#391 [06:17] <Frostic> ya but it cost me $140 a month for this and home phone. very high price
#392 [06:18] <Calinou> €30/month here as usual, but I pay for TV I don't even use :facepalm:
#393 [06:18] <Frostic> my ping is never over 25
#394 [06:18] <Calinou> ToIP is probably the worst thing that happened to the internet
#395 [06:18] <Calinou> (TV, not telepathy over IP :P)
#396 [06:18] <smiba> Still crashes
#397 [06:18] <smiba> .. LOL It crashed with F3 on x3
#398 [06:19] <Frostic> smiba did you set it in bios to use the nvidia?
#399 [06:19] <smiba> Frostic: No...
#400 [06:19] <smiba> I don't even think thats possible
#401 [06:19] <Frostic> im thinking its still using the intel
#402 [06:19] <smiba> :3
#403 [06:19] <Calinou> smiba: it is
#404 [06:19] <Frostic> yes there is a setting
#405 [06:20] <Calinou> not necessarily in bios. might be in control panel of nvidia/intel card
#406 [06:20] <Frostic> Calinou help him switch the cards we seen it using the intel card when he showed us a crashlog
#407 [06:21] <smiba> Lol?
#408 [06:21] <smiba> Something's taking too long! 'root.gameRenderer.level' took aprox 112.587985 ms Something's taking too long! 'root.gameRenderer' took aprox 116.756735 ms Something's taking too long! 'root' took aprox 119.938346 ms
#409 [06:21] <Calinou> 116ms to render the level is long
#410 [06:21] <smiba> My command prompt gets spammed...
#411 [06:21] <smiba> The screen freezed :3
#412 [06:22] <smiba> Now got this:
#413 [06:22] <smiba> http://pastebin.com/PyXUPBBU
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#415 [06:23] <Frostic> smiba DiskDaemon said that in the crashlog it had ig4icd32.dll as the cause of the crash... this is an intel dll file. not nvidia. that means its using the intel (lower GPU) not your nvidia
#416 [06:23] <smiba> I forced it to use my NVIDIA now.
#417 [06:24] <smiba> Omg, 64 FPS on far
#418 [06:24] <smiba> Its using the NVIDIA now x3
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#422 [06:25] <rymate1234> Lol
#423 [06:25] <Frostic> lol try setting the distance slightly lower then.
#424 [06:25] <Calinou> 64FPS on far... /me does better
#425 [06:25] <Calinou> as long as you have 60FPS the game can be considered as "fast"
#426 [06:25] <Calinou> since most screens are 60hz
#427 [06:25] <smiba> Calinou: But u haz PC
#428 [06:25] <Calinou> what do you mean?
#429 [06:26] <Calinou> desktop computer here, yes
#430 [06:26] <smiba> Calinou: I'm using a laptop
#431 [06:26] <smiba> xD'
#432 [06:26] <Calinou> laptop runs MC on far+fancy at 80-ish FPS
#433 [06:26] <Calinou> it's from 2009
#434 [06:26] <smiba> My laptop was badget :3
#435 [06:26] <smiba> €450,-
#436 [06:26] <smiba> *Budget
#437 [06:26] * Calinou did not try running minecraft with nouveau yet
#437 [06:26] <Calinou> should be fun
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#440 [06:27] <Frostic> try setting a lower distance if its crashing on far? maybe your gpu cant render that much data
#441 [06:27] <smiba> It Didn't crash 'yet'
#442 [06:27] <Frostic> oh ok thats good
#443 [06:27] <Calinou> it should not :P
#444 [06:28] <Calinou> higher render distances require more RAM, and it is best to use 64 bit java to play minecraft
#445 [06:28] <smiba> Damn... It switched to secuerty mode.
#446 [06:28] <smiba> Laptop is getting too hot
#447 [06:28] <smiba> x3
#448 [06:28] <smiba> Now it runs @ 14 FPS
#449 [06:29] <Calinou> plug your laptop in
#450 [06:29] <smiba> Calinou: ?
#451 [06:29] <rymate1234> Get external laptop cooling
#452 [06:29] <Calinou> (CPU/GPU usage is throttled when on battery, especially if battery is low)
#453 [06:29] <Calinou> rymate1234: overrated
#454 [06:29] <smiba> I'm running on AC
#455 [06:29] <smiba> x3
#456 [06:29] <Calinou> just use a magazine/book and "elevate" your laptop using it, maybe
#457 [06:29] <Calinou> :p
#458 [06:29] <rymate1234> Heh
#459 [06:30] <Frostic> hehe
#460 [06:30] <Calinou> smiba: use power saver/force v-sync
#461 [06:30] <Calinou> vsync prevents your computer from rendering too many frames
#462 [06:30] <smiba> v-sync = Enabled
#463 [06:30] <Calinou> the ingame vsync switch might not work
#464 [06:30] <Calinou> might want to force it in nvidia control panel
#465 [06:30] <smiba> Oh x3
#466 [06:30] <Calinou> (for javaw.exe, force vsync)
#467 [06:30] <Frostic> i have a thing that holds my laptop at an angle and forces air in its vents. i got it at best buy for like $20
#468 [06:31] <Calinou> power saver limits your FPS to 40; it is not "fluid"
#469 [06:31] <Calinou> Frostic: and you complain about not having money...
#470 [06:32] <Frostic> dude i live on $675 a month after bills i have $300 a month for food/buying games/computer stuff. and i spend $180 on food now you do the math
#471 [06:33] <Calinou> well, noone forced you to buy that laptop-angle-holder :P
#472 [06:33] <Calinou> buying games; you're doing it wrong, play FOSS (or at worst, free/indie) games... these are not inferior to commercial games. learn to like them
#473 [06:34] <Frostic> lol i have had it for 2 years. im just saying he should get one it helps a laptop while playing games
#474 [06:34] <smiba> Crashed are fixed!
#475 [06:34] <smiba> Thanks :D
#476 [06:35] <Calinou> no problem
#477 [06:35] <Frostic> glad we could help you :) enjoy
#478 [06:36] <Frostic> so how long you been here Calinou? i ask because i want to know how to get a permanent voice too it looks cool haha
#479 [06:36] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|away
#480 [06:36] <Calinou> since more than a year ago
#481 [06:36] <smiba> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2300422078.png
#482 [06:36] <Frostic> wow
#483 [06:36] <Calinou> voice acutally does nothing unless the channel is "moderated"
#484 [06:36] <Calinou> it is never set to moderated
#485 [06:37] <Calinou> so it's just cosmetic
#486 [06:37] <Frostic> you should be like an aop by now
#487 [06:37] <smiba> Download speed can be faster at night times
#488 [06:37] <Calinou> usually connection is fastest monday @ 2am than saturday @ 9pm
#489 [06:37] <Calinou> :p
#490 [06:37] <Calinou> can be 30% faster
#491 [06:38] <Frostic> omg how you get internet that fast?
#492 [06:39] <Calinou> download stuff at 2am.
#493 [06:39] <Frostic> whos your provider? i never seen 30mb/s thats like super net lol
#494 [06:39] * Calinou has a good computer but bad connection
#494 [06:40] <Calinou> most people have the inverse.
#495 [06:40] <Calinou> wtf, NL has great average connections
#496 [06:40] <Calinou> it's not france :p
#497 [06:40] <Frostic> ya my speed is ok and my pc is bad lol
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#501 [06:41] <smiba> Calinou: Cause NL is AWESOME :D
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#503 [06:41] <Frostic> oh and i use wireless connection btw. and yes still get very good ping
#504 [06:41] <smiba> I'm also useing Wirelesss
#505 [06:41] <smiba> *Using
#506 [06:41] <Frostic> i want your internet
#507 [06:42] <smiba> ^^
#508 [06:42] <Calinou> ethernet here
#509 [06:42] <Calinou> (no wireless on desktop computers :P)
#510 [06:42] <smiba> Its cheap here..
#511 [06:42] <Calinou> bandwidth is unlimited in france
#512 [06:42] <Frostic> where?
#513 [06:42] <Calinou> 8D
#514 [06:42] <smiba> This internet is about €30/Month
#515 [06:42] <smiba> (And FUP bandwidth)
#516 [06:43] <Frostic> :( im in usa these cracknut companies say they got high speeds but when it comes down to it you only get about half of what they promise
#517 [06:44] <smiba> Frostic: Same here.
#518 [06:44] <smiba> (I paid for more x3)
#519 [06:44] <smiba> 50Mbit/s is what they promised
#520 [06:44] <Frostic> wow
#521 [06:45] <smiba> Within 10 years everyone in the netherlands has Glass fiber connection
#522 [06:45] <Frostic> thats um well if i had 50Mbit/s id have a webserver on my pc and host a minecraft server instead of buying hosing like i am now
#523 [06:45] <smiba> I don't have it yet. Thats why its too slow
#524 [06:46] <smiba> Frostic: I work at MinecartVPS. My server is free ^^
#525 [06:47] <Frostic> i pay $22 quarterly for 1-12 slots sadly im not good at the game i just got a server because my family has alot of kids that play it and well i made a server for them
#526 [06:48] <smiba> Does anyone knows some good channels here?
#527 [06:48] <Frostic> channels for what?
#528 [06:48] <smiba> I already joined the #furry channel. Its the deadest channel ever.
#529 [06:48] <Frostic> nope
#530 [06:49] <smiba> Just. Talking
#531 [06:49] <Frostic> my channel is the most dead channel ever :P
#532 [06:49] <smiba> xD
#533 [06:49] <smiba> Name?
#534 [06:49] <smiba> Ah Frostserv?
#535 [06:50] <Frostic> would seem so eh?
#536 [06:50] <Frostic> ya all thats in there is me and my minecraft relay bot
#537 [06:50] <smiba> xD
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#552 [07:39] <MinecraftNewb> Howdy, i used to play minecraft when it first came out, does anyone know the name of the addon thing that allows you to open up a minecraft program outside of game and allows you to choose what you spawn with in single player? i forgot the name
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#554 [07:41] <Andrio> MCEdit?
#555 [07:42] <MinecraftNewb> That sounds famila.
#556 [07:42] <MinecraftNewb> thanks
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#563 [08:11] <hacker2302> hi everione
#564 [08:12] <Necrodoom> hacker2302: hello..
#565 [08:12] <hacker2302> does sombody know how to report players?
#566 [08:12] <Necrodoom> report how?
#567 [08:12] <TheNoodle> I'm sorry, what players do on a server is between them and the server owners.
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#569 [08:12] <hacker2302> becouse they are making hacks for minecraft
#570 [08:13] <hacker2302> not servers
#571 [08:13] <TheNoodle> Well in that case, what people write in their own time is between them and ...well them.
#572 [08:13] <hacker2302> okey...
#573 [08:13] <Necrodoom> and this is coming from a guy named hacker..
#574 [08:13] <Necrodoom> and this is coming from a guy named hacker..
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#576 [08:13] <Necrodoom> sure.
#577 [08:13] <TheNoodle> ha
#578 [08:14] <JO> my son´s devastated - yesterday the minecraft screen turned black while playing. It still does not show anything. What went wrong and what can we do to make minecraft playable again?
#579 [08:19] <zack6849> Hmm JO does it show an error?
#580 [08:19] <JO> no nothing, just black
#581 [08:19] <zack6849> or is it just a plan black screen with no crash error?
#582 [08:19] <zack6849> Hm, i would make a backup if the .minecraft
#583 [08:19] <JO> yep
#584 [08:19] <zack6849> are you on windows?
#585 [08:19] <JO> yep
#586 [08:20] <zack6849> do you know where the .miencraft directory is
#587 [08:20] <JO> ouch - i am an absolutely non-expert
#588 [08:20] <zack6849> Hit windows key + r
#589 [08:21] <zack6849> it should bring up a prompt
#590 [08:21] <zack6849> then type in
#591 [08:21] <zack6849> %appdata%
#592 [08:21] <zack6849> you should be met with a list of folders, there will be one called ".minecraft" copy it somewhere liek your desktop
#593 [08:21] <zack6849> then open minecraft and force an update by hitting options > force update
#594 [08:21] <zack6849> then resore the saves :)
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#599 [08:23] <JO> okay, I try that, thanks a lot, I hope not to be forced to return! Best regards!
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#642 [08:46] <Grim_Reaper> And there goes wugbot again..
#643 [08:47] <zack6849> silly netsplits.
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#645 [08:48] <William3110> hello
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#647 [08:48] <itzmjauz> YAr mate.
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#651 [08:49] <Grim_Reaper> Im surprised wugbot didn't die >_>
#652 [08:50] <William3110> For some reason if i try to join a server it comes up with connection timeout or bad login or failed to login
#653 [08:50] <zack6849> Im surprised my bouncer didnt die.
#654 [08:50] <zack6849> it dies randomly all the time
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#656 [08:50] <William3110> hello?
#657 [08:50] <itzmjauz> William3110: ye ?
#658 [08:50] <William3110> For some reason if i try to join a server it comes up with connection timeout or bad login or failed to login
#659 [08:51] <itzmjauz> William3110: You haven't googled yet didn't you ?
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#661 [08:51] <zack6849> William3110, have you bought the game?
#662 [08:51] <William3110> yes
#663 [08:51] <itzmjauz> zack6849: When joining a server. not when loggin in.
#664 [08:51] <William3110> joining a server not logging in
#665 [08:51] <zack6849> i know. but if you have a pirated client itll letyou login but not join the server.
#666 [08:52] <William3110> what do u mean a pirated client?
#667 [08:52] <itzmjauz> zack6849: Pirated client isn't supported for help in this channel anyway, so we can assume it's a vanilla client.
#668 [08:52] <itzmjauz> William3110: Nothing, it's unrelated
#669 [08:52] <itzmjauz> William3110: Make sure you're using the same minecraft versions.
#670 [08:52] <William3110> 1.4.2?
#671 [08:53] <itzmjauz> William3110: And the server is version?
#672 [08:53] <William3110> i am not sure nut the link is www.mcctf.com
#673 [08:53] <William3110> could u see what the problem is?
#674 [08:54] <William3110> please
#675 [08:54] <itzmjauz> William3110: Which server did you try to join?
#676 [08:54] <itzmjauz> William3110: They have multiple ones running
#677 [08:54] <itzmjauz> http://www.minecraftpvp.com/ctf/#tab:servers
#678 [08:54] <William3110> I tried quite a few
#679 [08:54] <William3110> and all of them didn't work
#680 [08:55] <William3110> hello?
#681 [08:55] <itzmjauz> Have you looked on their forum yet?
#682 [08:55] <William3110> no
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#684 [08:56] <William3110> how do i get to that?
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#686 [08:56] <itzmjauz> William3110: It seems alot of people have the same problem as you
#687 [08:57] <itzmjauz> William3110: The only solution I've seen up till now is just spamming connects.
#688 [08:57] <itzmjauz> William3110: Direct connect and spamming the connect button*
#689 [08:57] <itzmjauz> William3110: You'll eventually get into the server
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#691 [08:57] <William3110> Is there a lot of people asking the same question on #minecrafthelp
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#693 [08:58] <William3110> as to why they can't get on
#694 [08:58] <itzmjauz> William3110: Ehrm.
#695 [08:59] <itzmjauz> William3110: I haven't seen anyone talking about it except you
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#697 [08:59] <Necrodoom> .log
#698 [08:59] <William3110> So what do u mean alot of people are having the same problem?
#699 [08:59] <itzmjauz> William3110: Read their forum.....
#700 [09:00] <itzmjauz> William3110: Search them postz'
#701 [09:00] <Necrodoom> that a lot of people are having the same problem..
#702 [09:00] <William3110> How do i get to that?
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#704 [09:00] <Necrodoom> i dont see what other meaning can this hav..
#705 [09:00] <Necrodoom> have*
#706 [09:00] <itzmjauz> http://minecraftpvp.com/forum/
#707 [09:00] <itzmjauz> Yeah,,, Necrodoom I think it's time for some pizza
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#709 [09:01] <itzmjauz> William3110: *and as I said, the only solution I found was simply spamming connects.
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#711 [09:01] <itzmjauz> William3110: Good luck.
#712 [09:01] <William3110> I have tried that but it doesn't work?
#713 [09:02] <William3110> about a million times i have
#714 [09:02] <Necrodoom> auth server are nonresponsive
#715 [09:02] <Necrodoom> thats the ONLY thing you can do
#716 [09:03] <itzmjauz> Put the YOU in alcaps too :D?
#717 [09:03] <William3110> and it isn't just this one server i have been on a whole range of servers on minecraftforums.net
#718 [09:03] <itzmjauz> that's the ONLY thing YOU can do
#719 [09:03] <itzmjauz> William3110: Heh.
#720 [09:03] <itzmjauz> Try putting your firewalls off.
#721 [09:03] <itzmjauz> Or add an exception for javaw
#722 [09:04] <itzmjauz> !paid William3110
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#724 [09:04] <William3110> How do i do all of that?
#725 [09:04] <William3110> How do i do all of that?
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#727 [09:04] <Necrodoom> 1. <Necrodoom> auth servers are nonresponsive
#728 [09:04] <itzmjauz> Depends on your firewall.
#729 [09:04] <Necrodoom> 2. haspaid is gone
#730 [09:04] <itzmjauz> 2. noooo
#731 [09:04] <itzmjauz> Netsplit?
#732 [09:04] <Necrodoom> firewalls will not fix anything
#733 [09:04] <Necrodoom> and what about netsplit?
#734 [09:04] <William3110> What is firewall anyway i don't know much about computers
#735 [09:05] <Necrodoom> the minecraft haspaid.jsp is gone
#736 [09:05] <itzmjauz> I dunno but hes the only thing highlighted in my whole lawgs.
#737 [09:05] <itzmjauz> William3110: It's a wall that's on fire
#738 [09:05] <William3110> lol
#739 [09:05] <itzmjauz> XD
#740 [09:05] <itzmjauz> It's internet security
#741 [09:05] <William3110> oh right
#742 [09:05] <itzmjauz> So it might block your minecraft -> server connections.
#743 [09:06] <William3110> thanks for the help, now go and get that pizza
#744 [09:06] <itzmjauz> Necrodoom: What aut servers? http://help.mojang.com/
#745 [09:06] <itzmjauz> Necrodoom: with an H behind it
#746 [09:07] <Necrodoom> itzmjauz: mojang.com says its up
#747 [09:07] <Necrodoom> but its nonresponsive
#748 [09:07] <Necrodoom> overloaded, possibly
#749 [09:09] <William3110> it's working tahnks for help
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#773 [10:04] <lStunnaal> Okay, i bought minecraft but it wont let me download it?
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#775 [10:07] <lStunnaal> Anyone????? Please HELP!
#776 [10:07] <lStunnaal> Hello/
#777 [10:07] <lStunnaal> anyoe?
#778 [10:08] <lStunnaal> anyone?
#779 [10:08] <lStunnaal> im confused please help!
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#787 [10:21] <louis> my screen is blank when i try to log in and play
#788 [10:23] <louis> am i on the online help secation
#789 [10:23] <louis> section
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#792 [10:24] <louis> can you help me please
#793 [10:24] <smiba> I'm here
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#795 [10:24] <smiba> Did you try to force-update?
#796 [10:24] <skritounka> HHi, I have a problem with account activation. someone help me?
#797 [10:25] <louis> no did not try force undates
#798 [10:25] <smiba> skritounka: Sorry, i don't have experiance with account activations.
#799 [10:25] <smiba> louis: Try to force-update
#800 [10:26] <smiba> Before you login: Options > Check: Force-upload > Login
#801 [10:26] <louis> ok will do that now thanks
#802 [10:26] <smiba> *Check: Force-update
#803 [10:26] <smiba> Okay :)
#804 [10:27] <skritounka> Error! Your e-mail could not be verified at this time, we've sent a new activation e-mail. That they keep sending me
#805 [10:27] <louis> Thank you so much it is now working, have a good day xx
#806 [10:28] <smiba> louis: :)
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#809 [10:28] <smiba> Skritounka: Just registrated an minecraft account?
#810 [10:28] <skritounka> yes
#811 [10:29] <smiba> What are you using? gmail? hotmail?
#812 [10:29] <skritounka> seznam.cz
#813 [10:30] <skritounka> i must have a g mail ..?
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#815 [10:31] <smiba> Try to use gmail
#816 [10:31] <smiba> Maybe Mojang or seznam.cz are having problems
#817 [10:31] <skritounka> ok
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#830 [11:14] <xintricatex> I forgot my password to login to minecraft
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#832 [11:14] <xintricatex> hi
#833 [11:15] <Calinou> xintricatex: http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#834 [11:17] <xintricatex> we tried that and we did not get it in the email. this is my sons account and he is not sure what email account is associated with minecraft. is there any way to find
#835 [11:17] <xintricatex> out the email
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#837 [11:18] <xintricatex> hello
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#839 [11:18] <xintricatex> i still need help here please
#840 [11:18] <Calinou> we can't help with account issues
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#842 [11:19] <xintricatex> gee thanks peaple
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#844 [11:19] <xintricatex> hello
#845 [11:19] <xintricatex> can you help me
#846 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> xintricatex - Nobody here works for Mojang. We have no access to account information for your protection.
#847 [11:20] <xintricatex> ok
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#863 [12:20] <bob5005> i cannot download file to my computer
#864 [12:23] <bob5005> @aubot can you help. i cannot download file to computer
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#868 [12:25] <bob5005> @YoshiPately I cannot download file to my computer can you help
#869 [12:26] <YoshiPately> If I update minecraft in the future will all of my mod data be earased?
#870 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Not erased, but most mods will not work after a minecraft update
#871 [12:27] <YoshiPately> How about The Invasion Mod
#872 [12:27] <bob5005> i have downloaded minecraft to another computer exactly the same and this computer will not work
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#874 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> bob5005 - And what happens when you try?
#875 [12:27] <bob5005> says file cannot be downloaded
#876 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> What kind of computer is it? What operating system is it running?
#877 [12:28] <bob5005> toshiba windows 7
#878 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> What does the error say, exactly? Does it work when you attempt to play it in-browser?
#879 [12:30] <YoshiPately> Grey will the Aether Nod be save after I update minecraft and then reinstall it when the mod updates???
#880 [12:30] <bob5005> minecraft_exe(4) couldn't be downloaded
#881 [12:30] <bob5005> brower play works fine
#882 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> bob5005 - Try using a different browser to download minecraft with
#883 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> YoshiPately - Couldn't tell you. I don't use Aether.
#884 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Generally, worlds that are created using a mod will only work with that mod installed.
#885 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> If minecraft is updated and the mod isn't, that world will not load with an updated minecraft
#886 [12:31] <YoshiPately> Ty anyway :)
#887 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Once the mod is updated again, the world will (generally) work again. This is dependant on the developer
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#890 [12:33] <YoshiPately> Tytytytytyty so much! Grey your the best!
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#892 [12:34] <bman> hello
#893 [12:34] <bob5005> seems to be working greyvulpine thanks
#894 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> bob5005 - Glad to hear it
#895 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> bman - Hello
#896 [12:34] <bman> can i have some help
#897 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> bman - With?
#898 [12:34] <bman> im having a textur problem on minecraft
#899 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#900 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot of the problem?
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#902 [12:35] <bman> i was playing and i downloaded a texture pack and placed it in the texture pack folder...
#903 [12:36] <Wug> the pack might be bad. can you select a different pack?
#904 [12:36] <bman> but i belive i placed it inside another pack folder insted of making a new one
#905 [12:36] <Wug> have you tried moving it out?
#906 [12:36] <bman> now... all my minecraft textures are ruined including the defult
#907 [12:37] <Wug> the default isnt stored in the texture packs folder
#908 [12:37] <bman> ive tryed deleating everything but its still messed up
#909 [12:37] <Wug> try force updating
#910 [12:38] <Wug> youll have to reinstall your mods.
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#912 [12:38] <Wug> if you have any
#913 [12:38] <bman> everything is red and blue
#914 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Hit options, turn off 3d anaglyph mode
#915 [12:39] <bman> ok let me try btb
#916 [12:39] <bman> brb
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#918 [12:40] <blaphmat> how do i make a picaxe?
#919 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> know how to make a workbench?
#920 [12:41] <blaphmat> no
#921 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> First, chop down a tree trunk with your hands. Grab the log from it. Hit E to bring up your inventory
#922 [12:41] <bman> ok it worked, thank you very much, you where alot of help! thank you for you time
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#924 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Put the log into your 2x2 inventory square to get wood planks
#925 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Next, using the wood planks, put one in each of the 2x2 inventory square to get a workbench
#926 [12:42] <bman> thank you
#927 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> bman - Glad we could help
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#929 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Put the workbench in your quick select bar at the bottom. Select the workbench in your hand, and right click it onto the ground next to you
#930 [12:43] <Foze> I have bought windows 8 and every time when i start minecraft it shows BAD VIDEO CARD DRIVERS, so i updated my video card drivers but it still does not work. What should i do
#931 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Once you place the work bench on the ground, right click it again to use it. Then, follow the instructions here to craft a pickaxe: Put the workbench
#932 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pickaxe
#933 [12:43] <Cleptomarv> Every time i try to purchase Minecraft with MasterCard it says Transaction not allowed. What is this error?
#934 [12:43] <Frostic> Foze did you use windows to update the drivers?
#935 [12:43] <Foze> yes
#936 [12:43] <blaphmat> thanks!
#937 [12:43] <Frostic> thats a nono
#938 [12:44] <Frostic> Foze: look up the drivers from the manufacture of your card
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#940 [12:44] <blaphmat> oh but i mite die
#941 [12:44] <blaphmat> how i get rit of the thing that kill me?
#942 [12:44] <Frostic> using windows to update them almost never installs the right drivers
#943 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - What thing?
#944 [12:45] <Cleptomarv> Every time i try to purchase Minecraft with MasterCard it says Transaction not allowed. What is this error? Can someone help me?
#945 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Cleptomarv - A credit card, or a prepaid card?
#946 [12:45] <Frostic> Cleptomarv: are you in illinois?
#947 [12:45] <Cleptomarv> credit card
#948 [12:45] <blaphmat> like spiders \
#949 [12:46] <Foze> ok thanks
#950 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - You can either run away, hit it with your hands, or craft a weapon to hit it (like a sword)
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#952 [12:46] <Frostic> ok lets ask this again
#953 [12:46] <Frostic> Cleptomarv: are you in illinois?
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#955 [12:46] <Cleptomarv> what is illinois? sorry...
#956 [12:46] <blaphmat> oh ok i wish u could get rit of them
#957 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Cleptomarv - I'd call customer support with the number on the back of your card and see if they're blocking the transaction.
#958 [12:47] <Frostic> ok your not then its called a state
#959 [12:47] <blaphmat> thanks any way
#960 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - If you switch the difficulty in options to peaceful, you can remove monsters
#961 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - If you switch the difficulty in options to peaceful, you can remove monsters
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#965 [12:51] <Frostic> Cleptomarv: give this link a whirl maybe it might help you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#966 [12:51] <blaphmat> ok cool
#967 [12:52] <Cleptomarv> Thanks, but have seen it already
#968 [12:52] <Cleptomarv> doesnt helps me
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#971 [12:54] <Frostic> did you try contacting moneybrookers about the issue?
#972 [12:54] <Calinou> moneybrookers... lol'd
#973 [12:54] <Frostic> moneybookers*
#974 [12:54] <Guest89885> hi! When I have logged in om Minecraft the screen turns all black and the game doesnt start - what´s weong?
#975 [12:54] <blaphmat> how i get the options screen?
#976 [12:55] <Frostic> blaphmat hit the esc button
#977 [12:55] <blaphmat> ok
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#979 [12:57] <blaphmat> i can't make a work bench i only make a pressure plate
#980 [12:57] <Frostic> Guest89885: could be a few things. but i suggest try updating your graphic drivers first by going to the manufacturers website and download the drivers for your card. do NOT use windows to update your drivers as microsoft rarely ever installs the proper ones
#981 [12:58] <blaphmat> how i make a work bench?
#982 [12:59] <Frostic> blaphmat put one in each spot
#983 [12:59] <blaphmat> so four?
#984 [12:59] <Frostic> yes
#985 [12:59] <blaphmat> ok
#986 [12:59] <blaphmat> thanks
#987 [12:59] <Frostic> np :)
#988 [13:00] <Wug> blaphmat: if you check the wiki, you can see the recipes for any craftable item
#989 [13:00] <Frostic> here is how to make the pickaxe http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pickaxe
#990 [13:00] <blaphmat> is it a crafting tabel?
#991 [13:00] <Frostic> yes
#992 [13:00] <blaphmat> ok
#993 [13:00] <blaphmat> thanks
#994 [13:01] <Frostic> blaphmat use this as a refference like wug suggested http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki
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#996 [13:02] <Cleptomarv> Okay, anyway thanks for your help
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#1000 [13:03] <Kittens_> This minecraft account thing is getting on my nerves...
#1001 [13:03] <blaphmat> i don't understand how to make a picaxe
#1002 [13:04] <Kittens_> Can someone help me with making a Minecraft account? :/
#1003 [13:04] <Wug> Kittens_: sign up on mojang.com
#1004 [13:04] <Wug> then buy minecraft premium
#1005 [13:04] <Frostic> wow so fast wug
#1006 [13:04] <Frostic> i didnt get time to tab the name
#1007 [13:05] <Frostic> lol
#1008 [13:05] <Kittens_> Ah ok cus I made an account for my brother and his minecraft username is his e-mail...
#1009 [13:05] <Kittens_> I'll buy him a gift code for his birthday :3
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#1011 [13:05] <Frostic> yes and yours will be your email address aswell
#1012 [13:07] <Frostic> blaphmat you see 9 blocks right?
#1013 [13:07] <Frostic> well places to put blocks
#1014 [13:07] <blaphmat> yes
#1015 [13:07] <Frostic> first you need to put 1 plank in all 3 of the center ones to make a stick
#1016 [13:08] <blaphmat> ok
#1017 [13:08] <Frostic> you will need 2 sticks
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#1019 [13:08] <Frostic> now in the 2 bottom center holes put the 2 sticks and all accros the 3 top ones put planks
#1020 [13:09] <blaphmat> i only have 1 plank
#1021 [13:09] <Frostic> there ya go a wooden pickaxe
#1022 [13:09] <Frostic> make more
#1023 [13:09] <blaphmat> how it takes to long
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#1025 [13:10] <Frostic> it takes me 15 seconds to gather wood and make planks and im a noob to the game like you
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#1027 [13:10] <blaphmat> do i use an axe?
#1028 [13:11] <Frostic> you dont need to but yes an axe helps
#1029 [13:11] <blaphmat> ok thanks
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#1031 [13:13] <thea> I can not download minecraft. When I do I receive a message stating minecraft is damaged and to place in trash.
#1032 [13:14] <Frostic> thea your on a mac?
#1033 [13:15] <thea> yes, i'm on mac.
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#1036 [13:16] <thea> I have a minecraft crashed message and can copy it for you to view.
#1037 [13:16] <Frostic> ok new mac os has to be set to allow non appstore apps
#1038 [13:16] <Wug> :pb > thea
#1039 [13:16] <WugBot> thea: (pb) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1040 [13:17] <Frostic> wug wats the command to show him info about this? i forget it :(
#1041 [13:17] <thea> pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/8w1hMLyw
#1042 [13:18] <thea> where do I go to set to allow non appstore apps?
#1043 [13:19] <Calinou> disable gatekeeper
#1044 [13:19] <Frostic> ??> thea mac/gatekeeper
#1045 [13:19] <Calinou> (or start minecraft from terminal -- gatekeeper is ineffective on terminal)
#1046 [13:19] <Wug> thea: you're not playing in a browser are you?
#1047 [13:19] <VoxelHead> thea: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
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#1049 [13:21] <falconier> is their an actual admin on here to look into something for me?
#1050 [13:21] <Wug> falconier: what's your problem
#1051 [13:21] <thea> im not playing in a browser was never able to load and play game
#1052 [13:21] <Frostic> falconier we are not staff we are volenteers but ask your question we may be able to assist you
#1053 [13:22] <Frostic> thea did you try what VoxelHead said?
#1054 [13:22] <thea> just want proper instruction as to how to down load for Mac
#1055 [13:22] <falconier> the web site at minecraft.net is saying its sending a PW via email but im not getting it...been working on it for a few hrs
#1056 [13:22] <blaphmat> how do i pick up my work bench?
#1057 [13:22] <blaphmat> do i att it?
#1058 [13:22] <Frostic> yes blaphmat
#1059 [13:23] <blaphmat> ok thanks
#1060 [13:23] <Frostic> destroy it and it will apear as a lil block on the ground
#1061 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> falconier - Please follow these instructions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1062 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> falconier - Set Gatekeeper to Anywhere, then redownload minecraft
#1063 [13:24] <falconier> what about the game I already paid for
#1064 [13:24] <Frostic> GreyVulpine thea was the one having issues on mac
#1065 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, whoops
#1066 [13:24] <falconier> yea im not on mac..sry
#1067 [13:25] <Frostic> falconier has the issue its not sending him his password
#1068 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> thea - Follow the instructions I mistakenly gave falconier
#1069 [13:25] <thea> got that wrote it down and will try thanks
#1070 [13:25] <Frostic> falconier did you check spam folders?
#1071 [13:26] <falconier> yea when I request my pw it tells me its sent but never get anything....yes I checked my spam folders
#1072 [13:26] <thea> Where is gatekeeper on ,ac
#1073 [13:26] <blaphmat> it dose not seem to do anything i tride atting the workbench
#1074 [13:26] <thea> Mac
#1075 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#1076 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> thea - Follow that ^
#1077 [13:26] <Frostic> thea ^^
#1078 [13:26] <thea> got it thanks
#1079 [13:27] <blaphmat> do i att the workbench with picaxe?
#1080 [13:27] <Frostic> no
#1081 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Bare hands will work
#1082 [13:27] <blaphmat> ok
#1083 [13:27] <blaphmat> thanks
#1084 [13:28] <Frostic> never use pickaxe on anything you cant get something you need
#1085 [13:28] <Frostic> every use makes it weak and it will break eventually
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#1087 [13:29] <Calinou> workbenches are best cut with axes
#1088 [13:29] <Calinou> but you can use hands
#1089 [13:29] <falconier> was I forgotten about?...lol
#1090 [13:29] <Calinou> note: as of 1.4 swords don't speed up dirt/wood mining
#1091 [13:29] <blaphmat> ok
#1092 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> falconier - Have you made sure you're checking the right email address?
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#1094 [13:30] <falconier> i only have 2 accounts...both are pulled up now...and theirs nothing
#1095 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> falconier - Try doing a: http://minecraft.net/retrievename -- on the email address. It should send you back an email with the username that's attached to the email account
#1096 [13:30] <Frostic> how long ago you submited the request?
#1097 [13:30] <blaphmat> i'v been atting it and it still is not done . how long dose it take?
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#1099 [13:30] <falconier> ok ill give that a try..ty
#1100 [13:31] <Frostic> blaphmat dont stop till its broken
#1101 [13:31] <blaphmat> ok then
#1102 [13:31] <Frostic> it takes maybe 60 full seconds
#1103 [13:31] <Calinou> <Frostic> blaphmat dont stop till its broken < good general advice for life :D
#1104 [13:31] <Frostic> lol
#1105 [13:31] <blaphmat> ok
#1106 [13:31] <Calinou> workbenches take 4.5 seconds to be destroyed
#1107 [13:31] <Calinou> (hands)
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#1109 [13:33] <falconier> ok it sent my user name to the account..i went back in a tried to have it send my pw but notjhing
#1110 [13:34] <Frostic> falconier that sounds very annoying i hope you get it fixed :(
#1111 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Are you using: http://minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1112 [13:34] <falconier> ok..it finally sent it now...ty all for your time
#1113 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> or: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1114 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1115 [13:35] <falconier> ty again
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#1118 [13:37] <imcompletelyconfused> can anyone tell me why my username for minecraft is my email!?
#1119 [13:37] <blaphmat> how can i stop the game mene comeing up?
#1120 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> imcompletelyconfused - It isn't. The username to log into your mojang account is your email address.
#1121 [13:37] <imcompletelyconfused> when i clicked register it didn't let me choose a username
#1122 [13:37] <lutzee> imcompletelyconfused: does ou email appear visable in game?
#1123 [13:37] <Calinou> if you're alt-tabbing, game menu automatically shows
#1124 [13:37] <lutzee> Ahh
#1125 [13:37] <Frostic> imcompletelyconfused because thats how mojang wants it for security reasons
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#1127 [13:37] <imcompletelyconfused> yes my email is visible in the game
#1128 [13:37] <Calinou> if you open inventory before alt-tabbing this does not happen
#1129 [13:37] <lutzee> okay, you pick a username after you buy the game
#1130 [13:38] <Frostic> imcompletelyconfused no your email is not visible in game lol
#1131 [13:38] <imcompletelyconfused> my email is visible people even asked me why
#1132 [13:38] <imcompletelyconfused> D:
#1133 [13:38] <blaphmat> ok
#1134 [13:38] <imcompletelyconfused> well i have to go so tahnks for sortof helping me i guess i will try to get on later
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#1136 [13:38] <blaphmat> but i think i'm just clicking
#1137 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Hold down your left mouse button
#1138 [13:39] <lutzee> Okay, Marc came in here a while ago asking if that was possible
#1139 [13:39] <blaphmat> ok
#1140 [13:39] <Calinou> blaphmat: did you change the "attack" key in controls
#1141 [13:39] <Frostic> i smelled a troll and his name was imcompletelyconfused!!!
#1142 [13:40] <lutzee> Frostic: I don't think he was a troll, but i suspect he was playing on a server with offline mode set to false
#1143 [13:41] <Frostic> it still wont show their email
#1144 [13:43] <Frostic> that is hidden and will not show in game only thing that shows in game is the username they set. its a security measure that mojang added in 1.3.2 and higher builds
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#1146 [13:46] <Frostic> oh so you mean you think hes using a cracked version of minecraft then
#1147 [13:46] <lutzee> Frostic: a non standard launcher might pass an email to the client without checks
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#1150 [13:48] <Helpme> When i try to join a server i get Failed to login error
#1151 [13:48] <Frostic> why ppl would use non-official builds ill never understand
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#1153 [13:48] <dee> i paid for minecrat and i still cannot play
#1154 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Pirating, modding, HD texture pack capability..
#1155 [13:49] <Frostic> DEE
#1156 [13:49] <Frostic> err caps sorry
#1157 [13:49] <dee> yes
#1158 [13:49] <Calinou> it is possible to "play offline" as any username legally
#1159 [13:49] <Calinou> .bat and .sh files both say so
#1160 [13:49] <Frostic> dee wat is your username?
#1161 [13:49] <Calinou> you'll still use the official launcher :P
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#1163 [13:50] <blaphmat> how do i make a bed?
#1164 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#1165 [13:51] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki find bed in the list and it tells you
#1166 [13:52] <Frostic> omg they changed it
#1167 [13:53] <Frostic> it used to have a list of all things you can craft where did they move the list to?
#1168 [13:53] <blaphmat> i don't understand how to make a bed
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#1170 [13:54] <Frostic> here
#1171 [13:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> blaphmat: it says RIGHT there on the bed entry for wiki
#1172 [13:54] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting/Blocks
#1173 [13:54] <Frostic> this shows all items you can craft and how to craft them
#1174 [13:54] <Calinou> that's the block recipes
#1175 [13:55] <Calinou> whole page: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
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#1177 [13:57] <Frostic> lol omg i totaly sent him the wrong link. im using the block one haha
#1178 [13:58] <blaphmat> it not there
#1179 [13:58] <blaphmat> where would it be
#1180 [13:58] <blaphmat> ?
#1181 [13:58] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#1182 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - How to make a bed, a youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BnKW68C6I
#1183 [13:59] <Frostic> omg i totally sent the wrong link again
#1184 [13:59] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting/Items
#1185 [14:00] <Frostic> here is the list of items you can make such as beds minecarts etc
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#1188 [14:03] <Frostic> put wood planks on the bottom row in all 3 slots then any type of wool as the second layer bam you got a bed
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#1191 [14:05] <Frostic> remember its 2:04 pm and i did not sleep yesterday so if i link the wrong stuff its because im half dead atm. im dizzy and my eyes burn
#1192 [14:06] <Frostic> and need sleep but im trying to lock down my server and im failing so hard i want to shoot myself
#1193 [14:06] <Frostic> this stupid plugin is failing or im just to sleepy and am missing something my brain is skipping over
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#1214 [14:31] <neesslol> any ops here?
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#1216 [14:32] <neesslol> Hello? I kinda need some help ..
#1217 [14:33] <Scott> ?? ask
#1218 [14:33] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1219 [14:34] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1220 [14:34] <neesslol> Well, can't log into minecraft launcher, with my majong e-mail.
#1221 [14:34] <neesslol> new account ofc.
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#1224 [14:37] <neesslol> ?
#1225 [14:38] <Morrolan> What does it say when you try to log in?
#1226 [14:38] <neesslol> Canno't connect to minecraft.net
#1227 [14:38] <neesslol> cannot *
#1228 [14:38] <Morrolan> Are you on Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#1229 [14:38] <neesslol> win
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#1231 [14:40] <Morrolan> neesslol - Open a command prompt (windows key + r -> 'cmd' in the window which pops up -> enter) then, and put "nslookup login.minecraft.net" in the command prompt, hit enter.
#1232 [14:40] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: There are many possible causes for it not being able to connect. Some can be diagnosed from a screenshot of the launcher when it has the trouble. Can we see one of those?
#1233 [14:40] <Morrolan> Alternatively, a screenshot might tell us what's wrong, too.
#1234 [14:41] <Morrolan> Feel free to try the instructions which you are more convenient with first.
#1235 [14:41] <neesslol> Should I look for anything special with the nslookup ?
#1236 [14:42] <Morrolan> There should be two paragraphs of output, what does it say in the second paragraph?
#1237 [14:43] <neesslol> Name: login.minecraft.net
#1238 [14:43] <neesslol> address: 23.21.129.254
#1239 [14:43] <Morrolan> That sounds fine. :)
#1240 [14:44] <Morrolan> Then you might want to check whether your security software is blocking Minecraft.
#1241 [14:44] <Morrolan> (You can also temporarily disable it, to see whether it's the culprit.)
#1242 [14:44] <DiskDaemon> the screenshot will help us to rule out the ipv6 and the win/! issue - and possibly even the security certificates generation one too. After that we can move on with a crash log
#1243 [14:45] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Speaking of which, how will the individual issues look like on the launcher, anyway?
#1244 [14:45] <Morrolan> Won't all just lead to the news not loading?
#1245 [14:45] <Morrolan> (all == security software, IPv6, Java's bug with exclamation marks)
#1246 [14:46] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: THe ipv6 issues results in no news section, but with a small amount of html test instead, and the win/! issue will result in a black background on the lower part of the launcher
#1247 [14:46] <DiskDaemon> *text
#1248 [14:46] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1249 [14:46] <neesslol> meh
#1250 [14:46] <DiskDaemon> And as for the security certificate problem which causes it to not connect, that's from the date/time being wrong.
#1251 [14:47] <Morrolan> That I'm aware of.
#1252 [14:47] <DiskDaemon> So one simple screenshot can provide information about all of those, which is nice. A crash log can help to diagnose other issues too
#1253 [14:48] <neesslol> Could u like tell me step by step ?
#1254 [14:48] <neesslol> And my anti virus aint blocking it
#1255 [14:48] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
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#1257 [14:49] <neesslol> I know how to take a screenshot, I meant like the crashlog from minecraft.
#1258 [14:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1260 [14:51] <nxtguy> When ever I log on to my server, I get a Failed to Login: Error [11:50] <nxtguy> Anyone know why? [11:50] <nxtguy> I've bought the game, (Premium) and I'm not sharing accounts.
#1261 [14:51] <nxtguy> Anyone know why?
#1262 [14:51] <DiskDaemon> What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1263 [14:52] <nxtguy> Bad login
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#1265 [14:52] <DiskDaemon> well that's good at least - your computer is not blocking access to the login server
#1266 [14:52] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: What are you logging in with, your username or your email address?
#1267 [14:52] <nxtguy> I know players get this error when they pirate the game or something but I've bought Premium.
#1268 [14:52] <nxtguy> Email address
#1269 [14:52] <nxtguy> I've migrated
#1270 [14:52] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: Where is your account, is it with mojang.com or with minecraft.net
#1271 [14:53] <DiskDaemon> righto
#1272 [14:53] <nxtguy> I've migrated my minecraft.net account to mojang.com a while ago
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#1274 [14:53] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: And you can log in to account.mojang.com with no problem?
#1275 [14:54] <nxtguy> DiskDaemon: Yes
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#1277 [14:54] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: We should then be able to get further information about what's causing your problem from a log report - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#1279 [14:55] <nxtguy> It doesn't crash my client. Just kicks me with the error.
#1280 [14:55] <DiskDaemon> That's fine
#1281 [14:55] <nxtguy> okay
#1282 [14:55] <nxtguy> I'll do that
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#1285 [14:57] <neesslol> Uhm, im not actually getting anything. just says java is not recognized internal or external command.
#1286 [14:57] <neesslol> I have java installed.
#1287 [14:57] <nxtguy> :( That's really weird. When I try method one, it works fine. I can connect to servers.
#1288 [14:57] <nxtguy> I'll restart and try again.
#1289 [14:57] <DiskDaemon> Use "%ProgramFiles%/Java/jre7/bin/java" instead of the word java. Keep the quotes in there too
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#1292 [14:59] <neesslol> Still says the same.
#1293 [14:59] <poop> what do ender pearls on xbox 360 do?
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#1295 [14:59] <nxtguy> DiskDaemon: When I get kicked, this is what the error log has: Connecting to minecraft.nxtcraft.com, 25565
#1296 [15:00] <poop> what do ender pearls on xbox 360 do?
#1297 [15:00] <nxtguy> You still there DiskDaemon?
#1298 [15:01] <poop> hello?
#1299 [15:01] <nxtguy> !list
#1300 [15:03] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: Ahh, your problem is not being able to login to the server, not to the launcher itself. That tends to have a different cause
#1301 [15:03] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: What do you see when you run the following command: nslookup session.minecraft.net
#1302 [15:04] <DiskDaemon> poop: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ender_Pearl
#1303 [15:04] <nxtguy> It gives me the Minecraft ip address
#1304 [15:04] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: and what is that?
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#1306 [15:04] <nxtguy> 54.243.79.232
#1307 [15:05] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so that seems to be correct
#1308 [15:05] <nxtguy> So it's not a DNS problem?
#1309 [15:05] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: Minecraft doesn't allow you to log in to servers if you aren't logged in via the launcher
#1310 [15:05] <DiskDaemon> It doesn't seem to be a dns problem
#1311 [15:06] <nxtguy> I do login to the launcher.
#1312 [15:06] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: What is the full error message that you get?
#1313 [15:06] <nxtguy> Failed to Login: Error
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#1315 [15:06] <nxtguy> It's weird, it happens about 70% of the time
#1316 [15:07] <nxtguy> but some times it works fine
#1317 [15:07] <nxtguy> somtimes*
#1318 [15:07] <DiskDaemon> nxtguy: Thattends to indicate that your machine is not the problem
#1319 [15:08] <nxtguy> DiskDaemon: It also tends to happen more on my server, than other ones.
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#1321 [15:09] <neesslol> Where did the other op go ?
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#1323 [15:10] <david_> hi, i'm using a recent ATI card and in the game, i can see a white line between blocks
#1324 [15:10] <david_> pretty ugly, anyone know how to fix it? like in catalyst control center?
#1325 [15:10] <david_> win7 btw
#1326 [15:10] <neesslol> Still getting the error message in cmd.
#1327 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> david_ - Go into your catalyst control center, turn off AA
#1328 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Or set it to application controlled
#1329 [15:11] <david_> aha ok ill try
#1330 [15:11] <david_> thought with AA would help
#1331 [15:11] <david_> thanks
#1332 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope, it's a common cause of that white line issue
#1333 [15:11] <david_> any other setting?
#1334 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope, just that one
#1335 [15:12] <david_> alrighty cheers :)
#1336 [15:13] <neesslol> Still Can't connect to minecraft.net.
#1337 [15:13] <neesslol> Can only play offline mode.
#1338 [15:13] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: What happens when you run the following command: "%ProgramFiles%/Java/jre7/bin/java" -version
#1339 [15:13] <DiskDaemon> brb, the tow guy is here
#1340 [15:14] <david_> GreyVulpine, btw, when i select "javaw.exe" in the app settings, it says: "an amd pre-defined app profile already exists.. override?"
#1341 [15:14] <nxtguy> Still getting the Connection Error: Failed to Login: Error
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#1344 [15:16] <RFAllan> Hello, i have just installed minecraft and when I am running, then attack it stops me and I have to hit w again to start moving again, how can I fix this?
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#1346 [15:17] <neesslol> DiskDaemon: It just says the same.
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#1348 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> david_ - Just delete the profile. Leave AA as application controlled
#1349 [15:19] <david_> okay
#1350 [15:19] <david_> GreyVulpine, thanks it worked :-D
#1351 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
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#1359 [15:30] <neesslol> DiskDaemon: Tell me when you're back.
#1360 [15:30] <eniac> I just bought an account. I can login on minecraft.net but not in the launcher (Login failed)
#1361 [15:30] <DiskDaemon> ow - steming some bloodflow now
#1362 [15:30] <neesslol> eniac: use ur mail
#1363 [15:30] <neesslol> to login
#1364 [15:30] <eniac> I only have an email. No username
#1365 [15:31] <neesslol> steming somee what
#1366 [15:31] <neesslol> Go create a minecraft profile first
#1367 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> You okay there DiskDaemon?
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#1369 [15:33] <DiskDaemon> The steering column of the bike managed to become permanently locked, so I've been helping the repair guy to drag its carcass out to and on to the truck
#1370 [15:35] <DiskDaemon> That's the worst of the bloodflow stopped now (he says about a tiny nick on the finger that won't stop)
#1371 [15:38] <neesslol> If any other OPS can help with my problem about I can't connect to minecraft.net. Would be great
#1372 [15:39] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: If that "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" command doesn't work for you, then you are going to need to install it
#1373 [15:39] <neesslol> Well, the problem is that java is already installed.
#1374 [15:40] <DiskDaemon> From http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp get the 64-bit version if you have a 64-bit operating system
#1375 [15:41] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: QUite likely you have the 32-bit version of Java installed on a 64-bit operating system - which causes problems. Get the 64-bit installed
#1376 [15:41] <Frostic> neeslol can you do something for us please?
#1377 [15:41] <neesslol> What ?
#1378 [15:41] <Frostic> ??> neesslol win/dxdiag
#1379 [15:41] <VoxelHead> neesslol: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1380 [15:42] <VoxelHead> neesslol: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1381 [15:42] <Frostic> so we shall see a lil more info about your pc do as VoxelHead says :)
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#1383 [15:45] <neesslol> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/nvNtC1bp
#1384 [15:45] <eniac> I created my account at account.mojang.com. Do I need to do anything to be able to login in the Minecraft launcher?
#1385 [15:46] <DiskDaemon> eniac: Just purchase the game, and log in with the same email and password that works with mojang.com
#1386 [15:47] <eniac> I did the exact same process 2 days ago for my kid and that works fine. My own account from today will only login at minecraft.net
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#1388 [15:48] <DiskDaemon> eniac: If your account is with minecraft.net then it is your username & password that you log in with instead
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#1391 [15:49] <Frostic> neesslol: do as DiskDaemon suggested reinstall java but install the 64bit version
#1392 [15:50] <neesslol> I did.
#1393 [15:50] <eniac> minecraft.net sent me to account.mojang.com when i wanted to purchase so i don't think i have a username. Just email. (Goes for both accounts)
#1394 [15:50] <eniac> minecraft.net sent me to account.mojang.com when i wanted to purchase so i don't think i have a username. Just email. (Goes for both accounts)
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#1396 [15:50] <Frostic> did you remove all traces of it first?
#1397 [15:50] <DiskDaemon> eniac: Okay, so first you need to confirm whether you have purchased it or not
#1398 [15:50] <Frostic> DiskDaemon wat was that program to remove all traces of java?
#1399 [15:51] <DiskDaemon> JavaRa
#1400 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/javara
#1401 [15:51] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1402 [15:51] <Frostic> ya that
#1403 [15:51] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1404 [15:52] <neesslol> give me a sec
#1405 [15:52] <Frostic> neesslol please use this tool to remove all traces of java and then reinstall
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#1409 [15:53] <Frostic> guys if im headed down the wrong road for his issues please tell me
#1410 [15:54] <eniac> DiskDaemon: You might be onto something there. It might confuse me that I already have it installed from the purchase 2 days ago :-)
#1411 [15:55] <Frostic> im just doing what i seen you guys tell ppl to help users with java issues. im in no way an expert like yall
#1412 [15:55] <Frostic> i dont want to give bad advice
#1413 [15:55] <eniac> Also it's a bit backwards for me to create an account before buying. It's usually in the same process.
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#1418 [15:57] <Ben> need help registration page is not working
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#1422 [15:58] <Frostic> ben it seems to be working on my end
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#1424 [15:59] <neesslol> Still the same problem.
#1425 [15:59] <Guest41694> I complete all the information but button does not function
#1426 [15:59] <Guest41694> I complete all the information but button does not function
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#1428 [16:01] <Frostic> Guest41694 did you checkmark that you agree? do you get an error message? is the button greyed out(unable to be clicked)?
#1429 [16:02] <Guest41694> I checked the I agree but no error message the green regitar button is greyed out with orange font
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#1431 [16:02] <neesslol> VoxelHead: Did what u said, still the message with Can't connect to minecraft.net
#1432 [16:03] <Frostic> VoxelHead is a bot he only tells you what commands we give him
#1433 [16:03] <neesslol> Ohh
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#1436 [16:04] <neesslol> Didn't sound like one tho
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#1438 [16:04] <Frostic> DiskDaemon or GreyVulpine would be your best bet as they are the biggest experts in the channel
#1439 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: Let's get this 64-bit version of java installed properly on your machine
#1440 [16:05] <neesslol> I've done it like three times :|
#1441 [16:05] <neesslol> four even
#1442 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: And does the following command now work? "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -version
#1443 [16:05] <Frostic> ok so try this command now open cmd. you do know wat cmd is right?
#1444 [16:06] <neesslol> ye
#1445 [16:06] <Frostic> type his command exact
#1446 [16:06] <Frostic> and hit enter
#1447 [16:06] <Frostic> what does it say?
#1448 [16:07] <neesslol> Without " right ?
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#1450 [16:07] <DepthsGaming> Can i get some help please?
#1451 [16:07] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: With, you muppet :)
#1452 [16:08] <DiskDaemon> DepthsGaming: Sure thing
#1453 [16:08] <neesslol> The system can not find the specific path
#1454 [16:08] <neesslol> is that it says
#1455 [16:08] <DepthsGaming> ok so since im on my sisters computer when i tried to login it wouldnt let me but when i went to answer my security questions the ones they wanted me to answer wernt the ones i picked
#1456 [16:09] <DepthsGaming> i still have the minecraft gift card and acess to my email
#1457 [16:09] <Guest41694> found registration problem. you can't tab from the first password to the re-type password field, you have to mouse over and click. Silly issue
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#1459 [16:09] <DepthsGaming> DiskDaemon is there somewhere i can talk to u without a group of people? like on skype, facebook
#1460 [16:09] <Frostic> Guest41694 thankyou for letting us know. now if anyone has the issue we can tell them too
#1461 [16:10] <DepthsGaming> or texting
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#1463 [16:10] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: Let's confirm that you have it installed in the right place. Run the following command from the start menu: %ProgramFiles%
#1464 [16:10] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: Do you see a Java folder in the Program Files folder?
#1465 [16:10] <DepthsGaming> yes lol
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#1467 [16:10] <neesslol_> DiskDaemon: Uhm, actually, no ..
#1468 [16:10] <neesslol_> aint any
#1469 [16:11] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: Then you have not installed the 64-bit version of java, yet.
#1470 [16:11] <Frostic> then u have thee 32 bit version
#1471 [16:11] <neesslol_> ammagadadadadada
#1472 [16:11] <DepthsGaming> right now when i try to reset my security questions it wants me to answer the ones i didnt even pick
#1473 [16:11] <DepthsGaming> so what do i do?
#1474 [16:11] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: Go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp and download the 64-bit version, and install it
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#1476 [16:12] <Frostic> neesslol_ make sure it says 64 not the x86
#1477 [16:12] <DiskDaemon> ??> DepthsGaming dont/pm
#1478 [16:12] <VoxelHead> DepthsGaming: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1479 [16:13] <DepthsGaming> oh ok well i asked to reset my security questions and when i went to my email it still wants me to answer the ones i didnt even pick what do i do?
#1480 [16:13] <neesslol_> "You have successfully installed java"
#1481 [16:13] <neesslol_> for the hundred times
#1482 [16:13] <DiskDaemon> You could contact customer support http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1483 [16:13] <neesslol_> but now, the folder is actually inside programfiles
#1484 [16:13] <neesslol_> is this black magic ?
#1485 [16:13] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: But which version of it, and to where?
#1486 [16:14] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: Good one, go back to the crash report instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1487 [16:14] <neesslol_> Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncerFrame
#1488 [16:14] <Frostic> DepthsGaming we see your first post please dont spam the chat over and over if someone has a clue how to help you they will when they are done assisting other users
#1489 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: It's spelled wrong
#1490 [16:15] <neesslol_> Wut
#1491 [16:15] <Frostic> LauncerFrame <---
#1492 [16:15] <DepthsGaming> well no one will help me
#1493 [16:16] <neesslol_> Forgot the H
#1494 [16:16] <neesslol_> but It was in there
#1495 [16:16] <Frostic> hehe
#1496 [16:16] <neesslol_> still erorr
#1497 [16:16] <neesslol_> error*
#1498 [16:17] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: In which directory is your command prompt at when you run that command?
#1499 [16:17] <Frostic> DepthsGaming if someone can help you they will just wait ok?
#1500 [16:17] <neesslol_> HAHAHA
#1501 [16:17] <neesslol_> woooops
#1502 [16:17] <DepthsGaming> otay :)
#1503 [16:17] <neesslol_> so sorry about that DiskDaemon
#1504 [16:18] <neesslol_> but ye, Minecraft Launcher just appeared
#1505 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> np
#1506 [16:18] <neesslol_> and a huge list appeared
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#1509 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: Cause the problem to occur, that you were having the it not connecting, then copy the command prompt contents and paste it to pastebin.com
#1510 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: Cause the problem to occur, that you were having the it not connecting, then copy the command prompt contents and paste it to pastebin.com
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#1512 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: To copy: right-click on the command prompt window, select all, press Enter to copy
#1513 [16:21] <Frostic> :( i wanted to say that
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#1515 [16:21] <Frostic> lol
#1516 [16:22] <neesslol_> http://pastebin.com/fuaQMUZ0
#1517 [16:22] <neesslol_> there u go
#1518 [16:22] <Mangero> What's the deal with Forge? Installing to a clean minecraft.jar isn't working. I get a loading screen that never finishes.
#1519 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: "SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target"
#1520 [16:23] <COLDFiRE> hm...Minecraft is being retarded on my computer....hm
#1521 [16:23] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: That means that Miencraft is having trouble creating a security certificate. Your time/date tend to be wrong when that occurs
#1522 [16:23] <Frostic> ??> Mangero mods
#1523 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Mangero: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1524 [16:23] <VoxelHead> Mangero: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1525 [16:24] <neesslol_> hmm
#1526 [16:24] <neesslol_> 22:24
#1527 [16:24] <neesslol_> 11.11.2012
#1528 [16:24] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: The other cause is: ESET. Do you have that installed?
#1529 [16:24] <neesslol_> Dont think so
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#1531 [16:24] <neesslol_> oh yes
#1532 [16:24] <Mangero> All of 0 people in #bukkit are more than willing to help, yeah.
#1533 [16:24] <neesslol_> I mean
#1534 [16:24] <neesslol_> I have eset installed y
#1535 [16:24] <DepthsGaming> Can a admin please reset my security questions cause the ones they want me to answer are not the right ones i chose
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#1537 [16:25] <DiskDaemon> neesslol_: This seems to be relevant to your situation then http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1266137-solved-can-not-log-in-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/
#1538 [16:25] <Mangero> SOL then. Got it.
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#1540 [16:26] <DepthsGaming> this is starting to piss me off and i cant play minecraft cause i cant login cause of my security questions
#1541 [16:26] <Frostic> DepthsGaming we here are volenteers. we dont work for mojang.
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#1543 [16:27] <neesslol_> Well, if Eset is the problem, ima laugh
#1544 [16:27] <neesslol_> Well, if Eset is the problem, ima laugh
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#1546 [16:27] <DepthsGaming> sorry frosstic i didnt know i thought u did work for them
#1547 [16:27] <DepthsGaming> :/
#1548 [16:27] <Frostic> DepthsGaming: try contacting support http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1549 [16:28] <DepthsGaming> i did im just waiting for a email back
#1550 [16:28] <Frostic> 1 person comes here very rare from mojang
#1551 [16:28] <brenn932> Hi, now that my son has purchased minecraft he says monsters don't come out at night anymore and eggs dont help. he is frustrated
#1552 [16:28] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: That can help when you have the game on Peaceful mode
#1553 [16:28] <Frostic> well im sorry to say you wait in vain as support takes about 75 to 7 days. as it used to take them 30days
#1554 [16:28] <DepthsGaming> breen
#1555 [16:28] <DiskDaemon> s/help/occur
#1556 [16:28] <DepthsGaming> brenn*
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#1558 [16:29] <Frostic> 5 to 7 days not 75
#1559 [16:29] <brenn932> if it is off peaceful mode and it still happens what should he try
#1560 [16:30] <DepthsGaming> is there to many lights by his place?
#1561 [16:30] <DiskDaemon> brenn932: Play in survival mode instead of in creative mode
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#1563 [16:30] <brenn932> he will try that thanks
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#1565 [16:31] <Frostic> if you are in survival mode you will see hearts and chicken legs in the game. if you dont see these you are in creative mode. mobs dont spawn in creative mode
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#1568 [16:32] <Mineralfinders> I have been unable to launch the game since my purchase ocer a week ago
#1569 [16:33] <Mineralfinders> I have emailed multiple times with zero response
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#1571 [16:33] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: What was used to perform the purchase?
#1572 [16:33] <Mineralfinders> Fastcard
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#1574 [16:33] <Mineralfinders> bought it at best buy
#1575 [16:33] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: I'm looking up its terms and conditions
#1576 [16:34] <Frostic> Mineralfinders may we ask your username you created your account with?
#1577 [16:34] <neesslol> DiskDaemon: Seems like it was ESET
#1578 [16:34] <DiskDaemon> neesslol: you're welcome
#1579 [16:34] <neesslol> DiskDaemon: Thank you very much :)
#1580 [16:34] <Mineralfinders> I am sorry what?
#1581 [16:35] <Frostic> when you baught the game you made a username what was the name you selected(not the email)
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#1583 [16:35] <Mineralfinders> it should either be mineralfinders or rockindiamonds is the minecraft name
#1584 [16:35] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: Prepaid cards can not be used to make purchased outside of the united states of america
#1585 [16:36] <Frostic> !paid mineralfinders
#1586 [16:36] <Frostic> !paid rockindiamonds
#1587 [16:36] <Mineralfinders> I am in the US
#1588 [16:36] <DiskDaemon> Frostic: That service has been taken down now
#1589 [16:36] <Frostic> what?
#1590 [16:36] <Frostic> :( not cool
#1591 [16:36] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: Correct, so you cannot use the prepaid card to pay for Minecraft
#1592 [16:37] <Mineralfinders> It accepted the card number but when we attempt to login in is says we are not a premium user
#1593 [16:37] <Frostic> i cant believe they took that down that was so awesome to check if payments went theough
#1594 [16:38] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: Ring the telephone number on that card, you will find that the card has not been charged
#1595 [16:38] <COLDFiRE> Dang, I keep getting virtual machine errror when opening minecraft
#1596 [16:38] <Frostic> thats sad. thats just very sad . lets all beat mark up when he comes here. its his fault!!!
#1597 [16:38] <Mineralfinders> There is not a phone number
#1598 [16:38] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: Then contact someone at a company who can give you details about the card that you have
#1599 [16:39] <Mineralfinders> Who would that be?
#1600 [16:39] <Mineralfinders> I tried best buy
#1601 [16:39] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: YOu have the card, you bought it. You find that out
#1602 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: The only valid prepaid method to get Minecraft is found at http://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1603 [16:41] <Frostic> ya prepaid visas dont work at all!!! if its not an official minecraft prepaid card it will not work
#1604 [16:42] <Mineralfinders> It is an official Minecraft card
#1605 [16:42] <DiskDaemon> Mineralfinders: Then please read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/816435-redeeming-a-prepaid-card
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#1607 [16:44] <Mineralfinders> Thank you
#1608 [16:44] <Mineralfinders> I will try those
#1609 [16:44] <Frostic> DiskDaemon we make a good team i make a statment and find out info about the situation nad bam you have the link for the help needed
#1610 [16:44] <Frostic> that was too cool
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#1612 [16:47] <Frostic> am i improving since i first started helping here? ya ya i still need work but i think im improving
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#1615 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> Frostic: It can help to familiarise yourself with all of the articles at http://help.mojang.com/ after which you can easily search for a term and find what you're after
#1616 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> note: we have helped to provide information for many of those articles
#1617 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> Marc is to blame/thank for writing them :)
#1618 [16:51] <Frostic> yes i have that page open its just im a bit slow. i type at 27 words per min yes im that slow lol but hey speed
#1619 [16:52] <Frostic> ill get better :) i just so much enjoy helping ppl it realy is more fun than playing the actual game lol
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#1621 [16:53] <Frostic> lets just say i have owned minecraft 2 weeks and have about 7 hours playtime lol
#1622 [16:54] <Frostic> and about 15hours making my own mods. ok imma shut up now i need to get back to work on my yo'mama joke mod hehe
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#1634 [17:17] <brenn932> The wither skeloton and wichtes won't come out at night
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#1636 [17:19] <brenn932> The wither skeloten and withches won't come out at night
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#1638 [17:20] <brenn932> what should i do
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#1642 [17:22] <brenn932> The Wither Skeleton and Witches won't come out at night. What should Ido
#1643 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> wither skeletons only spawn around nether fortresses, that I know of
#1644 [17:23] <lutzee> Wither skeletons only spawn in certain parts of the nether, and witches only spawn certain distances from a witch house which only spawns in swamp biomes
#1645 [17:24] <brenn932> Thank you so much guys
#1646 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> The minecraft wiki has full details about them http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wither_Skeleton http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Witch
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#1649 [17:33] <brenn932> Wher are Wicth houses going to be in a swamp biome
#1650 [17:34] <brenn932> Hello
#1651 [17:35] <brenn932> What
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#1654 [17:44] <DiskDaemon> There's only a small chance that a swamp biome will have one
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#1670 [18:12] <nyst> hi I have a question, after using force update to update, all my mods don't show up on the bottom left of the screen
#1671 [18:13] <nyst> how do i fix/get my mods back
#1672 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> You would need to redownload it
#1673 [18:13] <nyst> redownload the mods?
#1674 [18:13] * andrewkm|away is now known as andrewkm
#1675 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> nyst: That's because the update returns the Minecraft files back to the original ones from the Minecraft web site, which don't have the mods
#1676 [18:13] <nyst> ok
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#1678 [18:14] <nyst> so what do I do with the files of my mods
#1679 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> Because mods aren't actually mods - they are instead patches that are hacked in to the game. A proper modding system is still being developed by Mojang
#1680 [18:14] <nyst> delete/reinstall?
#1681 [18:15] <nyst> ty
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#1683 [18:17] <YoshiPately> I can't convert a world
#1684 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Is it a world from alpha/beta?
#1685 [18:18] <YoshiPately> Idk
#1686 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Please find out where the world is from then
#1687 [18:19] <YoshiPately> How?
#1688 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Did you create the world?
#1689 [18:19] <YoshiPately> It's called It's Better Together!
#1690 [18:20] <YoshiPately> No I downloaded it from the forums
#1691 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> The forum says that the world is for Minecraft 1.4 - why would it need to be converted?
#1692 [18:21] <YoshiPately> Who is saying that?
#1693 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/548236-co-oppuzzle-its-better-together-v14-70000-dl/ where it says: "[CO-OP][PUZZLE] IT'S BETTER TOGETHER V1.4 (70000+ DL!)"
#1694 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> See the V1.4 ?
#1695 [18:22] <YoshiPately> Yes
#1696 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> That means that the map is for Minecraft version 1.4
#1697 [18:23] <YoshiPately> But there was never a 1.4 it went from 1.3.2-1.4.2
#1698 [18:23] <DiskDaemon> 1.4.2 is fine for it too
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#1700 [18:24] <YoshiPately> So why won't it covert?
#1701 [18:24] <DiskDaemon> Do you want me to download it and find out?
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#1703 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> apparently not
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#1705 [18:26] <YoshiPately> Sorry my iPod froze so why won't it work?
#1706 [18:27] <YoshiPately> Ps you were right on the nether portal
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#1709 [18:28] <Disori> YoshiPately, converts for me just fine
#1710 [18:29] <YoshiPately> Mine just has the dirt screen and says converting world
#1711 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Are you using your ipod t conver it?
#1712 [18:30] <YoshiPately> No my laptop Im using it to chat to you
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#1714 [18:31] <YoshiPately> I tried quite a few all except skyblock failed
#1715 [18:31] <Disori> Actually one sec, I downloaded the nether one
#1716 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Okay, let's get some more information about the problem http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1717 [18:33] <YoshiPately> Ok I downloaded it and dragged it to my saves folder and now it has a dirt screen saying converting world.
#1718 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> yes, I'm getting a crash with it too
#1719 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> http://pastebin.com/gnbuPK6J
#1720 [18:35] <Disori> I'm getting an NPE
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#1723 [18:37] <Disori> plus the bo to bq error. didn't see that one at first
#1724 [18:38] <YoshiPately> I don't even get an error it just says coverting :(
#1725 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> For the record, here's a non-modded version of the crash report from converting the world http://pastebin.com/Jmw3G4k0
#1726 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: That's because the log report is saved elsewhere
#1727 [18:38] <Disori> you're given an error log, or if you use a tool like me to see what minecraft spouts out
#1728 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> This is from aug 2011... so it's back in beta
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#1730 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> You're most likely looking at an old beta 1.4 map here
#1731 [18:39] <Disori> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1559747-minecraft-converting-not-working/ only thing that google shows me that's relevant
#1732 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> Great, so using Minecraft 1.1 to convert the world seems like the most likely path to succes
#1733 [18:40] <YoshiPately> Anyone figure it out?
#1734 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> patience
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#1737 [18:41] <derpityderpderp> why does the multiplayer server im trying to join keep saying end of stream
#1738 [18:41] <derpityderpderp> it did the same thing earlier, then randomly started to work
#1739 [18:41] <YoshiPately> Ok master at minecraft helping everyone one by one even me from the nether portal to maps
#1740 [18:42] <derpityderpderp> anybody?
#1741 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> derpityderpderp: Due to a not good networking connection to the server
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#1743 [18:42] <derpityderpderp> clarify plox? :3
#1744 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> derpityderpderp: When the connection to the server becomes weak or non-existent, the connection tends to end
#1745 [18:43] <derpityderpderp> dumb :(
#1746 [18:45] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: It's looking like the map that you're trying to use is not for Minecraft 1.4, but is instead for Minecraft beta 1.4 which is a much older version of Minecraft. I'm exploring a potential solution now
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#1749 [18:47] <YoshiPately> Well if you could not figure it out tell me another great co-op adventure map ?
#1750 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> ??< outdatedversionlist
#1751 [18:49] <YoshiPately> Is the aether updated to 1.4.2?
#1752 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: no
#1753 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> ??< oldversion
#1754 [18:50] <YoshiPately> How about singleplayer commands?
#1755 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> I suspect so
#1756 [18:50] <YoshiPately> Could you check?
#1757 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Do you know where its forum page is?
#1758 [18:51] <YoshiPately> No
#1759 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: I'll wait while you go find it
#1760 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> Inf act, I'll carry on working with this damned map conversion issue
#1761 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-132-single-player-commands-v41-official-download-spc/
#1762 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> "There will be a 1.4 update coming in a few days (probably Wednesday - I am on holiday at the moment), there is already a dev build that works on 1.4 on one the of last few pages of this thread. In the mean time feel free to play a PVP server I help maintain at: 64.31.61.186"
#1763 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> So, short answer, No.
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#1768 [18:54] <YoshiPately> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-132-single-player-commands-v41-official-download-spc/
#1769 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: Good one - go to the page. There will be some red text. Read it.
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#1774 [18:57] <YoshiPately> What is the best mod you know for 1.4.2 ?
#1775 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1434593-list-of-mods-for-142-and-132/
#1776 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> All depends on how you want to play minecraft
#1777 [18:59] <YoshiPately> I like the aether something like that concept ; some thing that adds to the game
#1778 [19:00] <lutzee> If you like techmods then the feed the beast modpack is great
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#1788 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> YoshiPately: You can use Minecraft Nostalgia to downgrade to the beta 1.4, which is entry number 42 in the list of potential downgrades that it gives you. That's a pretty old version though, it's from Easter of 2011
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#1790 [19:08] <Inkman> I have purchased minecraft after some issues with several cards but I cannot login to the launcher says failed I also cannot find out if the purchase actually went through and there seems to be zero actual support for mojang just pages of fans no contact
#1791 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: DO you have an account on mojang.com /
#1792 [19:08] <Inkman> Yes I created one
#1793 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Go to https://account.mojang.com/me - do you see a My Games section at the top of your page?
#1794 [19:09] <Inkman> Tried purchasing with my visa kept getting denied then blocked used my MC cards aid purchase confirmed but also said blocked for 24 hours?
#1795 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Contact your bank. They may be blocking the overseas transaction as a form of security protection for you
#1796 [19:10] <Inkman> Yes I see my games
#1797 [19:10] <Inkman> That was the problem with the first card my second card was fine
#1798 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: So you see a listing there in the My Games section for Minecraft?
#1799 [19:11] <Inkman> Left side: my games-my gift codes
#1800 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: What is the profile name that is shows for you there?
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#1802 [19:12] <Inkman> Top right shows account games help
#1803 [19:12] <Inkman> No profile showing
#1804 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Does the My Games section of the page (just above My Gift Codes) show anything? Do you even have a "My Games" section above "My Gift Codes"?
#1805 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Then your account is not premium, because Mojang hasn't received the payment. Contact your bank.
#1806 [19:13] <Inkman> Below MY GAMES is a sentence about migrating
#1807 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> which says?
#1808 [19:14] <Inkman> Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account? If you do, you should start using your Mojang account e-mail as username when logging in.
#1809 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: That doesn't relate to you if you haven't paid for a minecraft.net account
#1810 [19:15] <Inkman> Does mojang block a whole account if a card fails?
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#1812 [19:15] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Mojang don't get to know anything about your attempts to pay, until Moneybookers informs Mojang about a successful payment
#1813 [19:16] <Inkman> Don't understand why my MC card did not work.
#1814 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> Is it one of these? http://minecraft.net/prepaid
#1815 [19:17] <Inkman> No straight bank credit card
#1816 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Then contact your bank
#1817 [19:18] <Inkman> I have MC for trusted payments and a visa for online stuff
#1818 [19:18] <lutzee> The number will be printed on the back of your cards
#1819 [19:18] <lutzee> You need to have moneybookers set as trusted
#1820 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Inkman: Contact your bank to find out why
#1821 [19:18] <Inkman> Seems to be a difficult process to purchase from mojang
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#1822 [19:19] <lutzee> Inkman: It is if you want it to be, its often due to banks blocking overseas payments to protect you from fraud
#1823 [19:20] <lutzee> A good bank will phone you when you try to make an overseas purchase
#1824 [19:21] <Inkman> Don't know about that because I use MC for a digitizing service based in London have been for several years, also purchase parts from a company in Poland.
#1825 [19:22] <Inkman> No biggie will sort it out tomorrow, just sad since I was buying minecraft for my daughter. Se will have to wait
#1826 [19:22] <Inkman> She*
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#1856 [20:04] <Frustrated> Having difficulty with minecraft download. Have updated Java and Adobe. Demo program played fine on computer. Cant open minecraft once downloaded
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#1858 [20:06] <XtraGhost> guys i have a question. If i make an account on mojang so i can buy minecraft, what will be my ingame name or where will i set that up? cuz i made an account but when i login on minecraft.net it just says logged in asy xxxxxx@gmail.com
#1859 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> XtraGhost: You create a username for your account only after the account has been paid for
#1860 [20:08] <XtraGhost> so if i buy it with my account with my email, i make a new username after i buy it? will i still login with email or with the new user name?
#1861 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> XtraGhost: Still with your email
#1862 [20:08] <XtraGhost> ok thanks
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#1866 [20:11] <Frustrated> Purchase has been made, but no ability to download
#1867 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> Frustrated: What was the purchase made with?
#1868 [20:16] <Frustrated> paid with credit card on mojang site. created profile and have followed all download instructions
#1869 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> and from where did you obtain your card?
#1870 [20:17] <Frustrated> mastercard
#1871 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Contact your bank - they will have information about whether the payment went through, if it it was blocked or denied for some reason
#1872 [20:17] <Frustrated> account shows as being paid and that i have premium account status
#1873 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Okay, this is relevant then http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1874 [20:21] <Frustrated> just check, looks like I already have premium status. Minecraft is listed in "my Games" when i try to downoad on windows platform, it allows download. however when i try to run nothing happens
#1875 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that means that there is something about the way your computer is setup, that needs to be dealt with
#1876 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out why there is a problem http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1877 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Get the log report, and paste it to pastebin
#1878 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1879 [20:22] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1881 [20:28] <Frustrated> it states" System cannot find the path specified"
#1882 [20:29] <Frustrated> I am going to try method 2 form the wiki site
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#1885 [20:34] <Frustrated> method 2 has same results - System cannot find the path specified
#1886 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> You my not have the 64-bit version of java installed then. Get that first
#1887 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> I have to head off now, my ride has arrived - but others here should be able to help further
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#1889 [20:37] <Samuel> Hello?
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#1891 [20:37] <Samuel> Is anyone here?
#1892 [20:38] <Samuel> How do you delete your Minecraft account?
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#1894 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> wat
#1895 [20:39] <Frustrated> anyone available to continue help that diskdaemon started with my account
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#1898 [20:48] <Frustrated> check on java. I am running 64 bit version 7
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#1912 [21:18] <russ_> how do i update minecraft when i get error 4 null
#1913 [21:18] <lutzee> russ_: what antivirus do you use?
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#1916 [21:20] <russ_> no i run a mac
#1917 [21:20] <russ_> none*
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#1919 [21:21] <lutzee> o
#1920 [21:22] <lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#1921 [21:22] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1922 [21:22] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1923 [21:22] <lutzee> ^try that
#1924 [21:22] <russ_> it does the same thing :/
#1925 [21:26] <russ_> ?
#1926 [21:26] <lutzee> hmm
#1927 [21:26] <lutzee> ?? mac/profile
#1928 [21:26] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1929 [21:26] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1931 [21:31] <russ_> what do i do then?
#1932 [21:31] <russ_> if its the system
#1933 [21:32] <lutzee> I... am unsure, i don't own a mac, i have no clue about OSX or BSD..
#1934 [21:37] <russ_> thank u
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#1937 [21:38] <madalynn> Join 198.12.125.235 Survival+Factions
#1938 [21:38] <madalynn> v
#1939 [21:38] <madalynn> v
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#1942 [21:39] <mau5ie> lol.
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#1944 [21:40] <Andrio> Fail.
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#1949 [21:48] <GTO> Could someone help me? How do I allocate more memory to my vanilla server? I'm on windows 7.
#1950 [21:53] <GTO> anyone?
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#1952 [21:57] <Frostic> GTO
#1953 [21:57] <Frostic> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/350344-allocating-more-memory-to-java-windows/
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#1956 [21:59] <GTO> thanks Frostic
#1957 [21:59] <Frostic> np man :)
#1958 [21:59] <puppie1997> i was wondering if there was a minecaft world viewer that could look/search for specific blocks?
#1959 [22:00] <Frostic> puppie1997 ya its creative mode. in game press e while in cre3ative and everything is in there
#1960 [22:01] <puppie1997> not like that i mean like a block placed already
#1961 [22:01] <Smanly> lol
#1962 [22:01] <Frostic> oh so a tracking mod im sorry we dont support mods in this channel sorry
#1963 [22:02] <Smanly> puppie1997: Xray mod?
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#1965 [22:02] <puppie1997> no not neccessarily a mod i was looking for a world viewer that could look for blocks that players have placed
#1966 [22:02] <Smanly> MCEdit?
#1967 [22:02] <puppie1997> can mcedit search for a specific block?
#1968 [22:02] <Smanly> idk
#1969 [22:03] <Smanly> I would think so
#1970 [22:03] <puppie1997> like if i were to open the world file and search for all placed redstone dust
#1971 [22:03] <puppie1997> is there a world viewer that can do that?
#1972 [22:04] <Frostic> not that i know of
#1973 [22:04] <Frostic> i even tried to search google and nadda thing
#1974 [22:04] <puppie1997> would there possibly be a way to do this?
#1975 [22:04] <Smanly> Try MCedit?
#1976 [22:05] <puppie1997> im headed there now to download it and try it
#1977 [22:05] <Smanly> k
#1978 [22:05] <Frostic> sure you could use a server plugin that everytime a block is placed it catagorized them to type and location
#1979 [22:05] <Smanly> Well, yeah.
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#1981 [22:05] <Smanly> Loggin plugin.
#1982 [22:05] <Frostic> yep
#1983 [22:06] <Frostic> i dont know much about mcedit but try it out and read the documentation
#1984 [22:06] <Frostic> it may have it or it may not
#1985 [22:06] <Smanly> And really read it.
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#1987 [22:07] <Frostic> i use my server plugin worldedit so i dont know anything about mcedit sorry
#1988 [22:07] <puppie1997> ok will do and i would need it to be found as if already placedd not going to be placed
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#1991 [22:08] <puppie1997> i only need to search a 5000x5000 region for all placed redstone dust
#1992 [22:08] <Frostic> without there being a database that categorized each block i dont think you can do this
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#1994 [22:09] <puppie1997> oh ok
#1995 [22:09] <Smanly> Its is possible in MCedit.
#1996 [22:09] <Frostic> it is?
#1997 [22:09] <Smanly> I just dont know how easy it it.
#1998 [22:09] <Smanly> is*
#1999 [22:09] <blaphmat> how do i see my screen shot?
#2000 [22:09] <blaphmat> how do i see my screen shot?
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#2003 [22:10] <Smanly> blaphmat: open the launcher
#2004 [22:10] <Smanly> Click options then click the blue link.
#2005 [22:10] <blaphmat> ok ty
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#2007 [22:13] <blaphmat> how do i make a work bench?
#2008 [22:14] <Frostic> blaphmat we showed you 5 times today you still dont remember?
#2009 [22:14] <blaphmat> no
#2010 [22:14] <Frostic> make 4 planks and fill all 4 slots with 1
#2011 [22:15] <blaphmat> ok ty
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#2014 [22:20] <blaphmat> it not showing the"+" sine or the life
#2015 [22:20] <blaphmat> y is that?
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#2017 [22:21] <Smanly> blaphmat: What?
#2018 [22:21] <blaphmat> nvm
#2019 [22:22] <Smanly> k
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#2025 [22:27] <Snowie> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/40293 :( why is this broken.
#2026 [22:28] <lansiir> Snowie: We don't support mods. We can only help you if it occurs in vanilla minecraft.
#2027 [22:28] <Snowie> custom texture pack sphaxbd and its just broken
#2028 [22:28] <Snowie> really :( fair enough
#2029 [22:29] <Smanly> Snowie: You need to patch it.
#2030 [22:29] <Snowie> Smanly, I have read that. which patch. have tried a few packs.
#2031 [22:29] <Smanly> You didnt patch it,
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#2035 [22:38] <meli> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game This error has been saved to /Users/meligb11/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-11-11_22.35.15-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT c84cd66 -------- Generated 11/
#2036 [22:38] <meli> i keep getting this problem
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#2038 [22:39] <Smanly> ??> meli paste
#2039 [22:39] <Smanly> meli: Paste it into pastie.com
#2040 [22:39] <Smanly> .org**
#2041 [22:40] <meli> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game This error has been saved to /Users/meligb11/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2012-11-11_22.35.15-client.txt for your convenienc
#2042 [22:40] <Smanly> ...
#2043 [22:40] <Smanly> pastie.org
#2044 [22:40] <Smanly> Go there.
#2045 [22:41] <meli> okay, what do I do after I paste it there
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#2048 [22:44] <Smanly> meli: Give us the link.
#2049 [22:44] <meli> http://pastie.org/5363645
#2050 [22:46] <Smanly> ??> meli mac/reinst
#2051 [22:46] <VoxelHead> meli: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2052 [22:46] <VoxelHead> meli: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2053 [22:46] <meli> thanksQ
#2054 [22:46] <meli> thanks!
#2055 [22:46] <Smanly> lol
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#2058 [23:07] <damagedminecraft> hello?
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#2060 [23:07] <damagedminecraft> Hello, my minecraft suddenly stopped working
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#2076 [23:45] <drew> we just purchased minecraft but it will not let us log on...says username not found...incorrect e meial address etc. help
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