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#5 [00:05] <BrickViking> does anyone here know kobebacon?
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#16 [01:03] <kylanc> I have a minecraft account, but it is saying "login failed". The usename and passwordd are right - how can I get in touch with Minecraft to make this work?
#17 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means the username/password is wrong
#18 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> First try resetting your password using: [12:42.03am] Valerie «Valeri
#19 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> we
#20 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> er
#21 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#22 [01:05] <kylanc> thanks,will try resetting it now.
#23 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, you can contact support at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#26 [01:15] <kylanc> thank's it woked i am so happy! thank's by :)
#27 [01:16] <kylanc> i mean bye :P
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#29 [01:16] <kylanc> i'm only 10 lol
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#34 [01:21] <BrickViking> has anyone here come across a user called kobebacon?
#35 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> !seen kobebacon
#36 [01:23] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#37 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#43 [01:44] <DJ_yoeri> i did force update in minecraft but it didnt reset the folder
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#45 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> DJ_yoeri, were you here before?
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#50 [02:15] <DJ_yoeri> yes i were here before
#51 [02:15] <DJ_yoeri> but that is i think 2 months ago
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#56 [02:25] <ultimatespec> can anyone help me?
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#58 [02:26] <ultimatespec> i have portforward a minecraft server and my friend cannot connect through the ip i give nor can i, i can only connect through the localhost way
#59 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Did you perhaps enter an ip address into the server-ip field of your server.properties file?
#60 [02:27] <ultimatespec> i don't need to do that cause mine is an static ip (my ip changes everytime my modern turns off
#61 [02:27] <DJ_yoeri> i did force update but i didnt reset my folder
#62 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> ultimatespec - I meant, if you did, I would tell you to remove it
#63 [02:27] <ultimatespec> oh
#64 [02:29] <ultimatespec> im going to try port forwarding a new one is it 25565?
#65 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> ultimatespec - Yes
#66 [02:29] <DJ_yoeri> i did force update in minecraft but it didn't reset the folder
#67 [02:29] <ultimatespec> thanks
#68 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - You can do it yourself, what operating system are you on?
#69 [02:29] <DJ_yoeri> windows 7
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#71 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Hit your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#72 [02:29] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#73 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Delete the bin and resource folders
#74 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Then run and log back into minecraft to have it redownload
#75 [02:29] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#76 [02:30] <ultimatespec> yay its fixxed :)
#77 [02:31] <ultimatespec> it seemed like re-portforwarding it fixxed
#78 [02:31] <DJ_yoeri> i cant delete the bin
#79 [02:31] <DJ_yoeri> i dont have mc running
#80 [02:31] <ultimatespec> may i suggest restarting you computer
#81 [02:32] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#82 [02:32] <DJ_yoeri> i try
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#100 [03:49] <Bushladen> hello?
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#102 [03:51] <Bushladen> Does some1 know what to do, if while playing minecraft on multiplayer or even single player it gets pretty laggy, i dont know how could i solve this problem, i have tried to decrese the video quality but this does not work, any1 help?
#103 [03:53] <worldmc> try to get optifine
#104 [03:53] <worldmc> helps a lot to fix fps
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#106 [03:53] <Bushladen> ok :) let me try :D thx
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#122 [05:19] <Guest_> my computer is runnuig windows 8 and minecraft say i have bad video driver. but when this computer had win 7 on it minecraft ran fime
#123 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> Windows 8 is going to take some time (months, perhaps never) to update its graphics drivers
#124 [05:25] <Calinou> ...another happy customer downgraded to windows 8
#125 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> That tends to occur when Windows 8 has been installed on a computer system that is not properly supported by the operating system
#126 [05:26] <Calinou> Guest_: see the manufacturer's website, it might have windows 8 drivers...
#127 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest_ win/dxdiag
#128 [05:27] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#129 [05:27] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#130 [05:27] <Calinou> looks like there are windows 8 drivers for NVIDIA cards at least ;)
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#132 [05:34] <BrickViking> sigh.
#133 [05:34] <BrickViking> ah well, I'm off for the night, all.
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#144 [05:52] <cdog> my minecraft keeps crashing when i try to log in
#145 [05:52] <cdog> its getting annoying
#146 [05:52] <worldmc> what error?
#147 [05:53] <cdog> it used to make a new file show up on my desktop but, stoped doing it
#148 [05:53] <cdog> it doesnt give me a a error message
#149 [05:54] <cdog> force update doesnt work, reinstallling it doesnt work
#150 [05:54] <worldmc> what are you using to launch it?
#151 [05:54] <cdog> updating driver software doesnt work
#152 [05:54] <cdog> im launching it from my computer
#153 [05:55] <worldmc> ....... the standard mc launcher? multimc? magic launcher?>
#154 [05:55] <cdog> stansard
#155 [05:55] <cdog> standard*
#156 [05:55] <worldmc> okay and where is the crash report?
#157 [05:55] <Calinou> what OS do you use?
#158 [05:56] <cdog> it doesnt give me one
#159 [05:56] <Calinou> if you want to update your drivers, do that through the manufacturer's website?
#160 [05:56] <Calinou> windows update is known to break drivers
#161 [05:56] <cdog> windows 7
#162 [05:58] <worldmc> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1383256-advanced-minecraft-error-test/ try that and return the error
#163 [05:59] <worldmc> !errortest
#164 [05:59] <worldmc> oh thought we had that
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#168 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> worldmc: There is now a .minecraft/error-reports/ folder that the game creates
#169 [06:03] <worldmc> oh didnt know that
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#171 [06:03] <cdog> my mc has no err report folder
#172 [06:03] <worldmc> cdog maybe give that?
#173 [06:03] <worldmc> oh
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#175 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> Failing that, instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#176 [06:04] <worldmc> you have java?
#177 [06:04] <worldmc> you have java?
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#179 [06:04] <worldmc> cdog ^
#180 [06:04] <cdog> yes,the most updated
#181 [06:04] <cdog> i reinstalled it to make sure it wasnt corrupted
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#186 [06:31] <MrTubs95> my singleplayer world is screwing up, when i click on it, it says loading world building terrain and takes for ever then it loads the one chunk im in and will not load any others, and will not let me take damage, freezes all mobs and i cant access any thing like workbenchs or chests, help!
#187 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> That sounds like a part of the save for the world has become corrupt
#188 [06:33] <MrTubs95> so do you know anything i can do to fix it\
#189 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> yes indeed
#190 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> You can revert to a backup
#191 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> Or if the problem is caused by a hard drive that's having problems, you can use SpinRite to attempt to fix the problem
#192 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> Or, you might be able to resolve things by using MCEdit to load and then resave the world
#193 [06:36] <Morrolan> MCEdit also has a dedicated "Repair chunks" function.
#194 [06:36] <Morrolan> Can be found in either the chunk, or the main menu.
#195 [06:36] <DiskDaemon> I would scan the hard drive for physical corruption problems first, for that kills two birds with one stone
#196 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> You get a healthier hard drive in return, it fixes the bad parts of the drive, and it potentially fixes the world problem too
#197 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> That is, by using SpinRite
#198 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Or other software that looks after the physical health of the hard drive, if any others exist
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#200 [06:38] <Andrio> How's that possible?
#201 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> How's what possible to fix physical problems with the drive?
#202 [06:39] <Andrio> Yeah.
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#204 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> By flying the read head at the data from different directions at different speeds, to capture different overlapping readings and then applying high-tech math to resolve error correction issues to arrive at the original data that has since become unreadable
#205 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> Fancy ways such as that. Steve Gibson has further details on how it works
#206 [06:41] <DiskDaemon> http://www.grc.com/sr/whatitdoes.htm
#207 [06:42] <MrTubs95> sorry im back, and i have recently, before my world was donig this copied the world onto a server file, and when my singleplayer done this, i copied the old world in my server back to the singelplayer,
#208 [06:42] <MrTubs95> and it still does this
#209 [06:44] <MrTubs95> so if thats help anything
#210 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> That seems to imply that the problem exists with the server version of the world too
#211 [06:45] <MrTubs95> yep
#212 [06:45] <MrTubs95> your observations would be correct!
#213 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> So there seems to be no non-corrupt version of that world that exists
#214 [06:46] <MrTubs95> i guess... but this world has to be saved lol
#215 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> If the corrupt version has been copied off, then those copies aren't able to be fixed by repairing the hard drive, because those copies are on areas of the drive that have not known the non-corrupt version of the files
#216 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> So potentially the original corrupt version can be fully fixed, or you can attempt to achieve a partial fix (even it it's possible) via mcedit
#217 [06:47] <MrTubs95> now im thinking that it may be minecraft because its doing it on all of my worlds and its taking forever just to log in to minecraft
#218 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> I'd test to find out if a new worlds result in similar problems or not
#219 [06:48] <MrTubs95> they do
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#221 [06:49] <MrTubs95> wait
#222 [06:49] <MrTubs95> yes new worlds do it aswell
#223 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> Wow - what further details about the problem can you tell us?
#224 [06:50] <MrTubs95> thats really all that i have, im still in school so i have to catch the bus in about 5 mins so if i get on here this evening do you think that YOU will be one
#225 [06:51] <DiskDaemon> No, our time zones won't match up like that
#226 [06:52] <MrTubs95> who do you think will be on in about 10-11 hours?
#227 [06:52] <Morrolan> Them Americans.
#228 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> *shrug*
#229 [06:52] <MrTubs95> im sorry...
#230 [06:52] <Morrolan> And those Europeans who don't have to get up tomorrow. ^^
#231 [06:53] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon: Normally SMART is quite good at detecting and relocating bad sectors.
#232 [06:54] <MrTubs95> ok, i got on last night and waiting about 30 mins and no answer but i must go now thanks for what you did help with
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#234 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> Yes, normally - there comes a time though when even that isn't capable, and it's more than waiting until things get that bad. It's about helping sectors to be less bad by refreshing the data that's on them too, so that they don't get to the point of being that bad in the first place
#235 [06:55] <Morrolan> Okay. ;)
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#237 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: Just for background, I'm in Christchruch which has had many earthquakes over the past couple of years shaking computer boxes around, so relairing such damage has become second place to me here now
#238 [06:59] <DiskDaemon> *repairing
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#246 [07:16] <helpnation> When I load up my old worlds in 1.4.5 they crash. Any way to fix this.
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#249 [13:19] <Spartan506CR> im about to go report mojang
#250 [13:19] <Spartan506CR> the bug so they can fix it
#251 [13:19] <Morrolan> I'd assume their Twitter got spammed.
#252 [13:19] <Lutzee> AuBot: <3
#253 [13:20] <Spartan506CR> not really it hasnt been spammed
#254 [13:20] <Spartan506CR> new tweet
#255 [13:20] <Spartan506CR> *opens tweet*
#256 [13:20] <Spartan506CR> *reads tweet*
#257 [13:21] <sugoi> Spartan506CR: were you banned for takling too much? just asking, not implying ANYTHING :)
#258 [13:21] <Spartan506CR> i cant copy tweet lol
#259 [13:23] <Spartan506CR> @mollstam:having some trouble with dynamic class loading vs database persistance.cant wait to migrate this infected codebase...
#260 [13:24] <Lutzee> Basically, there has been patch after patch after patch and now its just full of hacks >:D
#261 [13:24] <Spartan506CR> cant wait till bug is fixed>:)
#262 [13:25] <Morrolan> I'll probably be playing Star Citizen before that bug is fixed.
#263 [13:25] <Morrolan> (Which'll be around November 2013)
#264 [13:25] <Morrolan> 2014*
#265 [13:25] <Spartan506CR> ...
#266 [13:25] <Spartan506CR> i think i just lost my hope...........
#267 [13:26] <Morrolan> Mojang didn't win any awards for being fast with fixing bugs. :P
#268 [13:26] <Morrolan> Some bugs they also just ignore.
#269 [13:26] <Spartan506CR> lol
#270 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> mmmm, Star Citizen.
#271 [13:27] <Morrolan> If it gets half as good as promised, it'll be great.
#272 [13:27] <Spartan506CR> Well,if this is going to last better get ready *brings bag of doritos and a drink*
#273 [13:27] <unimatrix> login servers down again?
#274 [13:27] <Spartan506CR> yup
#275 [13:27] <unimatrix> dailey event now?
#276 [13:27] <Morrolan> Down again?
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#278 [13:28] <Spartan506CR> yes
#279 [13:28] <Morrolan> Oh, splendid.
#280 [13:28] <Spartan506CR> it is down :/
#281 [13:28] <Morrolan> .sitedown Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
#282 [13:28] <VoxelHead> Morrolan, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
#283 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Half shmaf. If it's a modern version of Wing Commander I with the names changed to protect Origin's IP, it'll be great.
#284 [13:28] <unimatrix> i noticed cause my serverscript kicked in:p
#285 [13:28] <Morrolan> Haha, I suppose so, DopeGhoti.
#286 [13:28] <unimatrix> and rebooted my server in offline mode :p
#287 [13:28] <Spartan506CR> Well,if this is going to last better get ready *brings bag of doritos and a drink*
#288 [13:29] <Spartan506CR> brb
#289 [13:29] <unimatrix> 3x failed connections in 1 min = reboot in offline :p
#290 [13:29] <Lutzee> That sounds like a poor system
#291 [13:29] <unimatrix> why would that be a bad system?
#292 [13:29] <Lutzee> A failed ping at the session servers with timeouts would be better
#293 [13:30] <unimatrix> a good point
#294 [13:30] <unimatrix> to notepad !
#295 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> it's be easy to force your server into offline mode to let me join with a nonaccount if I were banned, for example.
#296 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> s/it's/it'd/
#297 [13:30] <unimatrix> DopeGhoti , ipbans
#298 [13:30] * DopeGhoti nods
#298 [13:30] <unimatrix> if they can change ip's they can change mc accounts
#299 [13:30] <unimatrix> so that logic is useless
#300 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> why make it easy?
#301 [13:31] <Spartan506CR> wait is there commands here??????
#302 [13:31] <Morrolan> Changing IPs is cheaper than changing MC accounts.
#303 [13:31] <Lutzee> Also i wish the point out your original method gives anyone rights to reboot the server by killing 3 connection atempts before they are completed
#304 [13:31] <unimatrix> true Lutzee
#305 [13:31] <Morrolan> Spartan506CR - There's a bunch of bots in here, which provide some services.
#306 [13:31] <unimatrix> you are right ill recode it a bit
#307 [13:31] <unimatrix> so it pings the login servers instead
#308 [13:31] <Spartan506CR> :D how can i have a nick?
#309 [13:31] <unimatrix> just need to calibrate it properly then
#310 [13:31] <Morrolan> "/nick newnick"
#311 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> Spartan506CR: you have one. It's Spartan506CR.
#312 [13:31] <Morrolan> Though that's just a regular IRC command.
#313 [13:31] <Spartan506CR> no...
#314 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> unimatrix: I'd be inclined to have it send me an email suggesting offline mode rather than autonomously restart the server.
#315 [13:32] <xXSpartanXx> ta da!
#316 [13:32] <Lutzee> unimatrix: you will probably need this link, http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test sessions don't respond to basic server pings
#317 [13:32] <unimatrix> ty :p
#318 [13:32] <unimatrix> i might even share my script once i finetune it
#319 [13:32] <unimatrix> im sure others would like it aswell
#320 [13:34] <xXSpartanXx> ahh so bored
#321 [13:34] <Morrolan> Go do something.
#322 [13:34] <xXSpartanXx> Like?
#323 [13:35] <Morrolan> Is the sun still up at your place?
#324 [13:35] <xXSpartanXx> yes,but i cant go out
#325 [13:35] <xXSpartanXx> i need to watch the dog
#326 [13:35] <Morrolan> Well, the dog might need a walk anyway.
#327 [13:36] <Morrolan> At any rate, he'll be happy to poop.
#328 [13:36] <Morrolan> Or to piss against the closest fencepost. :P
#329 [13:36] <xXSpartanXx> pooped an hour ago,walked an hour ago
#330 [13:36] <Morrolan> Hmm.
#331 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> dog + tennis ball == happy, entertained dog
#332 [13:36] <Morrolan> (If inside a house == angry mum, though)
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#334 [13:36] <xXSpartanXx> He ate the only ball
#335 [13:36] <VoxelHead> quibbit, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
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#337 [13:37] <VoxelHead> forest_assasin, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
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#340 [13:37] <VoxelHead> EricBJ_, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
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#342 [13:37] <VoxelHead> tesuki, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
#343 [13:38] <forest_assasin> i cant go onto multiplayer servers? it says failed to log in: log in timed out, try again?
#344 [13:38] <xXSpartanXx> yes
#345 [13:38] <xXSpartanXx> were having some bugs for migrated accounts
#346 [13:39] <forest_assasin> oh so when will it be fixed?
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#348 [13:39] <VoxelHead> hm, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
#349 [13:39] <Selbram> It will be fixed when it is fixed.
#350 [13:39] <Selbram> No eta
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#354 [13:40] <forest_assasin> okay it was just a question..
#355 [13:40] <xXSpartanXx> lol
#356 [13:41] <xXSpartanXx> it seems it will take a BIG while
#357 [13:41] <forest_assasin> didnt minecraft have trouble Tuesday too?
#358 [13:41] <xXSpartanXx> servers back up!
#359 [13:42] <Morrolan> forest_assasin - It's been quite a common sight, recently.
#360 [13:42] <xXSpartanXx> yup
#361 [13:42] <forest_assasin> oh well i like the game so its worth it
#362 [13:42] <sugoi> xXSpartanXx: as i said, it comes and goes
#363 [13:42] <xXSpartanXx> well guys servers back up go enjoy!
#364 [13:42] <Lutzee> They are working on making the system better, so expect bugs to appear
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#366 [13:42] <tesuki> Does this multiplayer problem, affect security questions?
#367 [13:43] <Morrolan> No clue. You get that error while creating a new account? Or while purchasing Minecraft?
#368 [13:43] <sugoi> it sounds unlikely to me
#369 [13:43] <tesuki> Just created the account.
#370 [13:45] <xXSpartanXx> playing SG :)
#371 [13:45] <xXSpartanXx> bye guys
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#373 [13:47] <VoxelHead> FLHerne, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Login to multiplayer servers are broken at the moment. Please hold tight while it's repaired! - Note that it seems to affect migrated/mojang accounts only.
#374 [13:48] <xXSpartanXx> it is repaired!
#375 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> mollstam really need to learn how to implement the test-before-release model
#376 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> .siteup
#377 [13:51] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
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#382 [14:05] <Michal> Hi. Can I ask You something here?
#383 [14:06] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#384 [14:06] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#385 [14:06] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#386 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> also: you just did.
#387 [14:06] <Michal> I need help
#388 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? telepathy
#389 [14:06] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
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#392 [14:06] <Michal> I have just bought Minecraft Premium Account.
#393 [14:06] <Michal> can log to Majong
#394 [14:07] <Michal> I see the Minecraft purchased with my Profile
#395 [14:07] <Michal> but when I click Minecraft game it seems I cannot log to minecraft.net and change skin or name?
#396 [14:08] <Michal> Should I wait and how much?
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#399 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> Michal: there were just some issues with the login servers; give it about ten minutes and try again
#400 [14:11] <Michal> Thanks dude!
#401 [14:11] <Michal> I will
#402 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#405 [14:21] <MCX58> Can someone help me with a crash problem?
#406 [14:21] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#407 [14:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#408 [14:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#409 [14:22] <sugoi> MCX58: VoxelHead has good advice :)
#410 [14:22] <MCX58> I have a crash report i can pastebin but i have been playing on a multiplayer server and when i went to a snow biome it crashed and said the exception was in the world tick
#411 [14:23] <MCX58> now whenever i try to connect to the server it crashes as soon as it loads and i cannot move at all
#412 [14:23] <sugoi> MCX58: could be a mod, and a block you are failing to read
#413 [14:23] <MCX58> Also i have no mods, and i deleted/redownloaded MC multiple times
#414 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> MCX58: can you join other servers?
#415 [14:23] <sugoi> but does the server have mods that you need client support for?
#416 [14:24] <sugoi> MCX58: that too ^ (join other servers)
#417 [14:24] <sugoi> and can you go to snow biomes on other worlds? :)
#418 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> If you can join other servers, your player datfile may have gotten corrupted; ask the server admin to remove your datfile.
#419 [14:24] <Boreeas> dat file
#420 [14:24] <sugoi> that would be a quick fix
#421 [14:24] <sugoi> have them back it up, try to return to the snow biome
#422 [14:24] <MCX58> I havent tried other servers because i only play on the one. Yes i have been to snow areas before and the server has a few mods like MCMMO but they were fine before
#423 [14:24] <sugoi> i'd be curious if it just crashes again
#424 [14:25] <sugoi> MCX58: can we see the error report too?
#425 [14:25] <MCX58> I will pastebin it
#426 [14:26] <MCX58> http://pastebin.com/dgPYG9N9
#427 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> line seven is a red flag.
#428 [14:27] <sugoi> aye
#429 [14:27] <sugoi> but he said he redownloaded it
#430 [14:27] <sugoi> MCX58: you're SURE you deleted all of your previous install?
#431 [14:27] <sugoi> e.g. %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/*
#432 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: it's OS X
#433 [14:28] <MCX58> yeah im on a mac and i deleted the entire minecraft file not just the bin
#434 [14:28] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: ergo 'e.g.' :)
#435 [14:28] <sugoi> as oppposed to 'i.e.'
#436 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> MCX58: I would, again, try connecting to another server to verify that it's not the client.
#437 [14:28] <sugoi> look, i knew i was being lazy and not checking the os! :)
#438 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> if you can, then it's your datfile on the server
#439 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> follow previous advice
#440 [14:28] <MCX58> offhand do you know any server ips i can try real quick that dont need whitelist?
#441 [14:29] <oldtopman> s.nerd.nu
#442 [14:29] <sugoi> MCX58: super easy to start your own
#443 [14:29] <MCX58> does it cost money to start your own?
#444 [14:29] <sugoi> 1. download server, 2. run it, 3. connect to localhost
#445 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> nope.
#446 [14:29] <sugoi> no no!
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#448 [14:29] <MCX58> ok well i am on s.nerd.nu right now
#449 [14:30] <MCX58> and it is working
#450 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> okay, so it's not your client then
#451 [14:30] * DopeGhoti points up
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#452 [14:30] <MCX58> ok so i should have my server admin delete my .dat file?
#453 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> yep
#454 [14:30] <Morrolan> Well, move it out of the world folder, for now.
#455 [14:31] <Morrolan> In case it's a plugin causing the issue you wouldn't want your inventory to be lost for nothing. ;)
#456 [14:31] <MCX58> ok thanks guys great help
#457 [14:31] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: ok BUT there is supposed to be an nf class
#458 [14:31] <sugoi> MCX58: so i'm still concerned about your install
#459 [14:31] <MCX58> whats an nf class?
#460 [14:32] <sugoi> well...
#461 [14:32] <sugoi> MCX58: so go to your .minecraft install folder, then into bin/
#462 [14:32] <sugoi> do you see a minecraft.jar file there?
#463 [14:33] <sugoi> also a folder called natives/ ?
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#465 [14:33] <MCX58> yes
#466 [14:33] <MCX58> yes to both
#467 [14:33] <sugoi> so your error report complained about not finding a part of your minecraft.jar
#468 [14:33] <sugoi> it is missing something, according to the error report
#469 [14:33] <MCX58> there is minecraft.jar and minecraft-1.4.5.jar
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#471 [14:34] <sugoi> so that concerned me
#472 [14:34] <sugoi> oh you use mcpatcher?
#473 [14:34] <sandimc4> Why can't I pick up items on my minecraft on my laptop?
#474 [14:34] <MCX58> i did to see if that would solve the problem
#475 [14:34] <MCX58> it doesnt work without mcpatcher before
#476 [14:35] <sugoi> MCX58: well i'd like you to retest without making a single change to a vanilla install
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#478 [14:35] <sugoi> MCX58: so delete the entire bin folder
#479 [14:35] <sugoi> run the launcher, it'll update (or should) and try to login
#480 [14:35] <MCX58> ok
#481 [14:38] <sugoi> sandimc4: hi
#482 [14:38] <sugoi> could be lag
#483 [14:38] <MCX58> http://pastebin.com/24jQcNMk
#484 [14:38] <sugoi> could be buggy entities
#485 [14:38] <MCX58> that is without anything altering it at all
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#487 [14:39] <sugoi> same problem
#488 [14:39] <sugoi> interesting
#489 [14:39] <sugoi> weird, to be honest
#490 [14:39] <sugoi> that class object should be foudn
#491 [14:39] <sugoi> found*
#492 [14:39] <sugoi> well, have the admin temporarily move your dat file
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#494 [14:40] <MCX58> ok i will try that. is there a way to get my inventory back if that fixes it?
#495 [14:40] <sugoi> the admin would have to help
#496 [14:40] <sugoi> one solution is with dat file editors, he could try simply moving your location
#497 [14:41] <MCX58> can admins add enchants? if so would they be able to see them in my old .dat?
#498 [14:41] <sugoi> 1.4.5 supports op enchants now (right?) so technically, you could get that back in-game
#499 [14:41] <MCX58> ok thanks for the help everyone
#500 [14:41] <sugoi> but maybe first get connected, then talk about restoring your inventory with the ops
#501 [14:42] <sandimc4> Could it be lag if I can do everything else? I can place blocks but can't move them.
#502 [14:42] <MCX58> ok thanks
#503 [14:43] <sugoi> sandimc4: i thought you said you can't pick them up?
#504 [14:43] <sugoi> so, can't move AND can't pick up?
#505 [14:43] <sugoi> and what do you mean by 'move' ? :)
#506 [14:43] <sugoi> like, push them?
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#508 [14:44] <sandimc4> Once blocks are in place, there is no way to get rid of them.
#509 [14:46] <sugoi> specific server?
#510 [14:46] <sugoi> could it be a permissions issue?
#511 [14:46] <sugoi> if you play a single player game, does it work?
#512 [14:46] <sugoi> and....have you played mc before and this has worked for you?
#513 [14:47] <sandimc4> It has never worked on this laptop. It works fine on other laptops and pc's but not on this laptop. The specs of the laptop should be fine. Everything else works. Just wondering if I have something set wrong.
#514 [14:48] <sugoi> so you're hitting a block, and it is 'breaking'
#515 [14:48] <sugoi> does it reach the broken state? or does it never progress in its 'breaking' phaes?
#516 [14:48] <sugoi> or does it break, and then reappear?
#517 [14:49] <sugoi> and you've tried new worlds?
#518 [14:49] <sugoi> also, have your tried no mods, vanilla-clean install?
#519 [14:49] <sandimc4> It's actually for my 10 year old son-his new laptop. I'll check with him tonight and come back on! So sorry to have wasted your time! I'll need to gather more info from him. Thought I understood enough, but apparently not!
#520 [14:49] <sugoi> psh, wasting my time
#521 [14:50] <sugoi> i'm at work, if i needed to use my time efficiently i probably wouldn't be logged into here in the first place :)
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#530 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> uhh
#531 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? dontclick
#532 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> (:
#533 [15:11] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#534 [15:14] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: that was the direction i was going
#535 [15:14] <sugoi> perhaps i should have just come out and explained that
#536 [15:14] * sugoi regrets his tactic
#536 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: sometimes inferring what the actual question is rather than making sure can bite you in the ass, but sometimes it can save everyone a lot of time (:
#537 [15:19] <sugoi> i agree
#538 [15:23] <Morrolan> And every now and then a bite in the arse is just what you want. Keeps you awake.
#539 [15:24] <Morrolan> And yes, you may pretend that this is some odd metaphor.
#540 [15:24] <sugoi> haha
#541 [15:25] <sugoi> esper/irc question guys, trying to reregister with nickserv
#542 [15:25] <sugoi> email never was sent, not in spam either
#543 [15:25] * worldmc is now known as worldmc|off
#544 [15:26] <sugoi> can nickserv be kicked to try again with new email?
#545 [15:27] <Morrolan> Prod the people in #help about it.
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#547 [15:27] <Morrolan> They'll most likely ask you to send them the e-mail you registered with in a query, then they'll manually verify your nickname.
#548 [15:27] <Morrolan> And don't mention Minecraft.
#549 [15:27] <Morrolan> verify your registration*
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#552 [15:29] <Morrolan> You know, one of these days I'll get an award for being able to switch between extremely silly and extremely helpful in no time, I'm sure of it.
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#558 [15:37] <sugoi> haha
#559 [15:37] <sugoi> and not mention minecraft? eh :P
#560 [15:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> I'll bite your ass any time Morrolan ;)
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#562 [15:42] <sugoi> actually, it was my ass in the metaphor
#563 [15:42] <sugoi> and i was picturing it as Morrolan doing the biting...
#564 [15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> sugoi: that'll do too
#565 [15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ;D
#566 [15:42] <sugoi> haha
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#568 [15:43] <sugoi> btw, "there is no spoon", to answer your question :)
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#570 [15:43] <sugoi> Morrolan: #help manually registered me, thanks
#571 [15:43] <Hexathelidae> Hi, Quick qestion, whats the command for registering a username?
#572 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hexathelidae: /ns register <email> <pw>
#573 [15:44] <DiskDaemon> You register a username only after having paid for your account
#574 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh, thought you maent for irc
#575 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> meant*
#576 [15:44] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, an irc username or a miencraft username?
#577 [15:44] <sugoi> WhereIsMySpoon: haha
#578 [15:44] <Hexathelidae> irc username.
#579 [15:44] <sugoi> oh!
#580 [15:44] <sugoi> i was wrong
#581 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hexathelidae: then follow my instructions
#582 [15:44] <sugoi> Hexathelidae: odd place to ask :) but, as WhereIsMySpoon explained it
#583 [15:45] <Hexathelidae> i figured here would be the place to find some place to build with, single player survival is getting dull
#584 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hexathelidae: if you need registration help, go to #help
#585 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> for irc that is
#586 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> any minecraft questions go here :)
#587 [15:45] <Hexathelidae> they say they aren't the minecraft help channle?
#588 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> they arent
#589 [15:45] <Hexathelidae> or is this for esper overall?
#590 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> but you're asking questions about irc
#591 [15:47] <Hexathelidae> ok... is "Is there a relatively griefer free survival server that isn't a complete convoluted mess to join" a minecraft question? lol
#592 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> Hexathelidae, try #smp
#593 [15:49] <Hexathelidae> thank you
#594 [15:49] <NinjaKirby> Anyone here familiar with Sony Vegas 10?
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#596 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, yes?
#597 [15:50] <Ethan> my server isnt working...can someone help me?
#598 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, how does it not work?
#599 [15:50] <NinjaKirby> Erm... it's irrelevant to the Channel, if you want to help him, hehe.
#600 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, it's ok
#601 [15:50] <Ethan> you cant cxonnect to it
#602 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, can you connect to it via this IP: 127.0.0.1?
#603 [15:51] <Ethan> what do you mean?
#604 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, this IP points to your own computer
#605 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, if you turn on the server and connect using that IP, you should be able to connect
#606 [15:52] <Ethan> should i type that into my browser
#607 [15:52] <Ethan> ok ill try it
#608 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> !check 76.124.48.158
#609 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, your minecraft server is online to us
#610 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, what is wrong with it?
#611 [15:53] <Ethan> it works when i use that ip from my server computer but i cant get on it from another computer
#612 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, what IP did you use to connect to it?
#613 [15:54] <Ethan> the 127.0.0.1
#614 [15:54] <Ethan> but when i use my server ip 68.32.39.182 it doesnt connect
#615 [15:54] <DiskDaemon> I hope people are aware that 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address that goes only to the computer that you are on
#616 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, your server IP is 76.124.48.158
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#618 [15:55] <Ethan> since when? its always been 68.32.39.182
#619 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, your ISP gives you a new IP whenever your router is turned off, you'll need to frequently check if they gave you a new IP
#620 [15:55] <Ethan> okay let m,e try that\
#621 [15:55] <Boreeas> The log of your router can probably tell you when it reconnects
#622 [15:56] <Ethan> its working...Thanks So Much! :)
#623 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> Ethan, if you need your new server IP, go to whatismyip.com
#624 [15:57] <Ethan> okay thanks
#625 [15:57] <sugoi> or ipchicken.com!
#626 [15:57] * sugoi loves ipchicken, he's kinda cute
#626 [15:58] <sugoi> ok not really..it seemed clever to say
#627 [15:58] <DiskDaemon> Or for kicks, there is moanmyip.com
#628 [15:58] <sugoi> ha
#629 [15:58] <NinjaKirby> Sorry tyteen4a03, if I can, somehow on a previous Vegas work, I modified an entire track to consume only a small area of the project. I have no idea how I accomplished it.
#630 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, drag the edges around
#631 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> I think I phrased that badly, I mean... I moved a Picture/Logo only into the Top Right corner of the screen. If I create a new drag and drop the new picture, it fills the entire video window.
#632 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> *Create a new track, argh
#633 [16:00] <tyteen4a03> I think you will need to rephrase that again
#634 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> It's surprisingly difficult to explain, lord.
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#636 [16:01] <NinjaKirby> I'll avoid clogging the channel to hell, I'll google it see if I have any luck.
#637 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, when in doubt, View -> Window Layout -> Default
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#639 [16:02] <NinjaKirby> Unfortunately won't apply here :P
#640 [16:02] <Podshot> Would anyone like to help me with a map I am making?
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#642 [16:06] <NinjaKirby> tyteen4a03: Success, Track Motion is what I sought. It's in "plain sight" as a tiny button, as opposed to Right Click menu, great.
#643 [16:06] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, oh you turned on track motion by accident
#644 [16:06] <NinjaKirby> I explained myself really bad didn't I. It's what I wanted to do XD
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#646 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby, thought it was windows
#647 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> and stuff
#648 [16:07] <NinjaKirby> Negative, sorry :P Appreciate your efforts
#649 [16:08] <Graypup|webchat> Thank god this doesn't happen on my main pc, but minecraft takes 2 minutes to start on an i7, R7870 desktop rig. Is there any reason why?
#650 [16:08] <Graypup|webchat> (raid 0 ssds, so it's not disk)
#651 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> Graypup|webchat, a lot of other stuff loading at the same time, java, windows
#652 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> and graphic driver not loaded correctly
#653 [16:10] <Graypup|webchat> could blame gfx driver, but the computer's warmed up by the time I start minecraft in the first place
#654 [16:11] <Graypup|webchat> Ah, just tested after updating java, it's much faster
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#657 [16:15] <MrTubs95> my singleplayer world is screwing up, when i click on it, it says loading world building terrain and takes for ever then it loads the one chunk im in and will not load any others, and will not let me take damage, freezes all mobs and i cant access any thing like workbenchs or chests, help!
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#659 [16:20] <MrTubs95> my singleplayer world is screwing up, when i click on it, it says loading world building terrain and takes for ever then it loads the one chunk im in and will not load any others, and will not let me take damage, freezes all mobs and i cant access any thing like workbenchs or chests, help!
#660 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: That looks to be a duplicate of what we attempted to help you with earlier on
#661 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> MrTubs95: try creating a new world, and less repeating yourself
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#663 [16:21] <MrTubs95> yes it sure is
#664 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: I'll sit this one out, so that others with perhaps better ideas than me can step in
#665 [16:22] <MrTubs95> yes, dope i know i could make another world but thats not why im here i want to fix my world...
#666 [16:24] <DiskDaemon> Why is it broken? Were mods used to it earlier on?
#667 [16:24] <MrTubs95> optifine
#668 [16:25] <DiskDaemon> that wouldn't cause any changes to the world
#669 [16:25] <MrTubs95> ok
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#671 [16:26] <MrTubs95> so does this other guy take a while or whats going on?
#672 [16:27] <DiskDaemon> If I were him I'd be checking logs from earlier to catch up on what you have already said about things
#673 [16:28] <MrTubs95> ok, didnt know if he left or what was going on
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#675 [16:31] <MrTubs95> soooooo
#676 [16:34] <DiskDaemon> If the people who volunteer their help here believe that they can't help you any further than what you already have been helped, then that's how it is
#677 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> MrTubs95: you could try this..
#678 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? nullsave
#679 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/nullsave
#680 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? save/null
#681 [16:34] <VoxelHead> save/null: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#682 [16:34] <VoxelHead> save/null: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#683 [16:35] <MrTubs95> thanks voxel
#684 [16:35] <VoxelHead> if it works, you owe me a pizza.
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#686 [16:35] <MrTubs95> meat lovers, pepperoni, what kind man?1
#687 [16:36] * DiskDaemon looks for a slot in the computer box in which to feed the pizza to VoxelHead
#687 [16:36] <VoxelHead> You can never go wrong with meat lover's. <3
#688 [16:36] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps this "tray" that slides out will do the job :)
#689 [16:36] * DopeGhoti will happily accept the pizza on VoxelHead's behalf
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#690 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> unless there's an RFC on IFTP over TCP/IP
#691 [16:37] <DiskDaemon> internet transmission via avian carrier pigeon, perhaps?
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#693 [16:38] <NinjaKirby> Acronyms, acronyms everywhar.
#694 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> I don't think things larger than a half-kilogram are in-scope of IP over Avian Carrier
#695 [16:38] <DiskDaemon> We'll have to break it up in to smaller packets
#696 [16:38] <Boreeas> That's just awfully shortsighted
#697 [16:39] <Boreeas> Just because carriers aren't designed to carry that kind of payload yet, it doesn't mean we shouldn't plan for support of HPAPs now
#698 [16:39] <DiskDaemon> So just remember, when a bird shits on you, it's only trying to fulfill the final part of its delivery to you
#699 [16:39] <MrTubs95> what is the latest version of mcedit the link you gave me does nothing, looking on google
#700 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> clearly then the only solution is to lace the avain carriers' foodstock with mutagens and steroids.
#701 [16:40] <MrTubs95> on their website it says to get the downloads from the left side, which one
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#704 [16:42] <MrTubs95> poop
#705 [16:44] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Are you asking which of the three download logos to click on? Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#706 [16:44] <MrTubs95> nvm figured that out, do i install it like any other mod?
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#708 [16:45] <DiskDaemon> no
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#710 [16:46] <MrTubs95> ok, well can you explain to me? ive never done it without just putting it into the 7zip minecraft file or what ever i dont use winrar
#711 [16:47] <DiskDaemon> Her's a tip - mcedit is not a mod
#712 [16:47] <boog> howdy. I want to download minecraft onto my KID's new computer...he's playing on my old one right now.,. It's a MAC and I just set everything up. when I download it makes me trash the file and wont let me open it...
#713 [16:47] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#714 [16:47] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
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#716 [16:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#717 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/documentation: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#718 [16:48] <boog> awesome. u r wayyyy more secure than apple apps :)
#719 [16:48] <boog> will try now thx
#720 [16:48] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: install instructions for mcedit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgzevsVqT8
#721 [16:49] <MrTubs95> ty
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#725 [16:50] <MrTubs95> is it possible to do it without winrar
#726 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> of course
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#728 [16:51] <MrTubs95> then how?
#729 [16:51] <boog> what do i open it with?
#730 [16:52] <armandien> Hello have a file that kept on crashing. I think i used too many tnt blocks. anyway to fix this problem?
#731 [16:52] <sugoi> MrTubs95: what extension?
#732 [16:52] <sugoi> zip, rar?
#733 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: I'm not in a position to provide technical support for mcedit
#734 [16:52] <boog> .zip
#735 [16:52] <sugoi> sorry, just now reading the comments
#736 [16:52] <MrTubs95> 7zip
#737 [16:53] <sugoi> windows opens zip by default (built in)
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#739 [16:54] <sugoi> MrTubs95: yeah 7zip is great
#740 [16:54] <sugoi> but zip, you don't need anything extra
#741 [16:54] <MrTubs95> when does it open my default? ive always had to open archive with 7zip
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#744 [16:55] <DiskDaemon> That sounds good then, 7zip is better than the default one
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#747 [16:56] <boog> thank you thank you thank you! cyber hugs your way. I almost have my life back now that my kid can play MC overe here on this one. :)
#748 [16:56] <MrTubs95> you guys have me soo confused
#749 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> If installing the mcedit program is such a challenge, then I fear that attempting to use it is likely to be near impossible
#750 [16:58] <MrTubs95> exactly, but i am willing to try for my world, i love this world
#751 [16:59] <DiskDaemon> Okay then, follow the install instructions from the mcedit.net website
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#753 [16:59] <MrTubs95> ahhhhh, why does life have to be so hard lol
#754 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> Which says, in bold text on their site even - MCEdit will not work if you just open the zip file. You must extract the zip file to a folder before running MCEdit.
#755 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> So, installing it is as simple as that - extract the zip file to a folder
#756 [17:00] <MrTubs95> if i buy you a plane ticket will you come to georgia and do this for me?
#757 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> Compensate be for lost income too and I'll be there
#758 [17:01] <sugoi> MrTubs95: someone here MIGHT have some time to use teamviewer (Remtoe desktop tool)
#759 [17:01] <MrTubs95> im just kidding guys
#760 [17:02] <sugoi> tho this channel is for vanilla minecraft, mcedit might have an irc channel, surely a forum where you can ask questions
#761 [17:02] <MrTubs95> how do you extract a zip file to another folder? i have no idea what you guys are talking about im just a dumb 15 year old lol
#762 [17:02] <sugoi> :)
#763 [17:02] <sugoi> well, to be honest, i'd be willing to help if you want to set up a remote desktop (which i can walk you through as well)
#764 [17:02] <sugoi> you'll be able to watch what i'm doing during the process
#765 [17:03] <sugoi> and you'll have control to end the connection too when you want
#766 [17:03] <MrTubs95> do you have skype?
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#768 [17:03] <sugoi> no, i have irc and teamviewer :)
#769 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> The join.me website is another alternative too
#770 [17:03] <MrTubs95> that would make life magical
#771 [17:03] <MrTubs95> bro! who doesnt have skype!
#772 [17:04] <sugoi> DiskDaemon: do you recommend it for laymen over teamviewer?
#773 [17:04] <sugoi> grey always seems to prefer teamviewer
#774 [17:04] <sugoi> MrTubs95: what purpose would it provide me that i am in need of?
#775 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> teamviewer provides more powerful tools, but join.me seems to be easier to get going on the spur of thr moment
#776 [17:05] <sugoi> fair
#777 [17:05] <sugoi> MrTubs95: want to use join.me ?
#778 [17:05] <MrTubs95> im in need of help, and i think that talking would be much more successful than this
#779 [17:06] <MrTubs95> if any of you know how to do what i need help with and have skype let me know
#780 [17:06] <sugoi> well sure, except that my creators didn't provide me with a sound driver
#781 [17:06] <sugoi> if youwant to use a remote desktop tool, i could have you up and running with mcedit in about 1 minute
#782 [17:06] <sugoi> truly, explaining it thus far has taken more time than it would to complete
#783 [17:09] <MrTubs95> anybody that can help me have skype?
#784 [17:10] <sugoi> MrTubs95: i don't talk to ppl :)
#785 [17:10] <MrTubs95> thanks for trying
#786 [17:10] <sugoi> we can chat about it here if you like
#787 [17:10] <sugoi> it is easy, you'll download the mcedit zip ..
#788 [17:10] <sugoi> wait
#789 [17:11] <sugoi> DiskDaemon already gave you a bloody youtube to watch
#790 [17:11] <sugoi> have you watched that?!
#791 [17:11] <MrTubs95> yes
#792 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> The trouble is, that youtube video was from about a year ago and is out of date now
#793 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> No .exe insallable version of mcedit seems to exist - it'
#794 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> it
#795 [17:11] <MrTubs95> indeed!!!
#796 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> dammit - it's just the .zip package
#797 [17:12] <MrTubs95> ill have to figure it out later, i dont have time thanks for trying though
#798 [17:12] * sugoi upvotes DiskDaemon
#798 [17:12] <DiskDaemon> And sadly, our MrTubs95's seems to be facing technical troubles in the process of attempting to install from a .zip package
#799 [17:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> quickly, double click the .zip
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#801 [17:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
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#810 [17:25] <brandonhrdn95> I'm trying to play the free offline version, but it won't let me. It says not downloaded under the button to click. What do I do?
#811 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#812 [17:25] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
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#815 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> brandonhrdn95: After you have successfully used the website demo, the ... dammit
#816 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, you're back
#817 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> brandonhrdn95: After you have successfully used the website demo, the downloadable launcher will then work fine for you
#818 [17:26] <brandonhrdn95> OK. Thanks!
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#820 [17:29] <Larry_> how do you enter a gift card
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#825 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> "the free offline version". What.
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#839 [18:27] <zyngawow> Lutzee: how did you check if someone has bought minecraft?
#840 [18:28] <Lutzee> !paid Lutzee
#841 [18:28] <zyngawow> ?
#842 [18:28] <zyngawow> ok
#843 [18:28] <Lutzee> minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#844 [18:28] <Lutzee> stupid bot is derping
#845 [18:28] <zyngawow> :)
#846 [18:28] <zyngawow> !paid ToweyBrine
#847 [18:28] <zyngawow> permission to use that?
#848 [18:29] <oldtopman> zyngawow: As long as you don't abuse it.
#849 [18:29] <zyngawow> I mean on my bot
#850 [18:29] <oldtopman> It's open for everyone, really.
#851 [18:30] <zyngawow> ok :)
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#855 [18:34] <Lutzee> zyngawow: all you have to do is pass it a username and the webpage spits out true or false :P
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#862 [19:07] <Tyler> !paid tylerweber
#863 [19:07] <Tyler> nice
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#865 [19:08] <trencheel303> I actually can't remember my minecraft username
#866 [19:08] <trencheel303> so if i typed in what i thought it was and got it wrong, everyone here would be like *all eyes on me*
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#868 [19:08] <trencheel303> i reckon it's just trencheel303
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#871 [19:10] <JuneauJQB> My minecraft crashed. Please help! here is a link to the crash log: http://pastebin.com/xs4NvDhh
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#875 [19:17] <stickypixel> Hi everyone.
#876 [19:17] <stickypixel> Sorry for being MIA.
#877 [19:17] <stickypixel> Installing Slackware isn't easy.
#878 [19:17] <JuneauJQB> 'm not sure if this helps, but I have an Imac
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#880 [19:17] <stickypixel> JuneauJQB: Is someone already helping you?
#881 [19:17] <JuneauJQB> nope
#882 [19:17] <JuneauJQB> could you?
#883 [19:18] <stickypixel> I'll be happy to help then.
#884 [19:18] <stickypixel> Yes.
#885 [19:18] <Lutzee> hmm, how old is said mac?
#886 [19:18] <JuneauJQB> My minecraft crashed.
#887 [19:18] <stickypixel> Explain to me your problem, be sure to include any crash-reports if necessary.
#888 [19:18] <JuneauJQB> ti think i got it in 2008
#889 [19:18] <JuneauJQB> here is the crash log: http://pastebin.com/xs4NvDhh
#890 [19:19] <Lutzee> JuneauJQB: can you pull up the full specs of your mac?
#891 [19:19] <JuneauJQB> I can log into minecraft, but then it turns to a blue and white screen
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#893 [19:19] <JuneauJQB> ok
#894 [19:19] <JuneauJQB> what do you want to know?
#895 [19:20] <Lutzee> Specifically what the graphics chipset it
#896 [19:20] <Lutzee> is/*
#897 [19:20] <stickypixel> This problem seems to be LWJGL related
#898 [19:21] <stickypixel> Simple reinstall of LWJGL?
#899 [19:21] <Lutzee> stickypixel: not so, seems driver related, which is odd on a mac
#900 [19:22] <stickypixel> Lutzee: I can agree.
#901 [19:22] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti: How have you been?
#902 [19:22] <JuneauJQB> i am not sure if this is what you are looking for: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics
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#904 [19:22] <JuneauJQB_> sorry about that, connection issues
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#906 [19:24] <JuneauJQB_> What do you suggest i do?
#907 [19:25] <Lutzee> Um
#908 [19:25] <Lutzee> Er
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#910 [19:26] <JuneauJQB_> i'm confused
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#913 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> stickypixel: I've been well, if busy
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#916 [19:30] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti: Installing Slackware was a great adventure for me recently.
#917 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> I recall the last time I installed Slackware
#918 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> it was aroung version 2 or 3 as I recall
#919 [19:31] <stickypixel> Installing Skype was the main obstacle.
#920 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> round that time, 'package management' meant lists and fluency with 'tar' and 'make'
#921 [19:31] <stickypixel> Its now version 14.
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#923 [19:32] <stickypixel> I like the interesting quotes I get when I boot it up or when I open terminal.
#924 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> that's just /usr/games/fortune
#925 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> generally entertaining though
#926 [19:33] <stickypixel> Quick question, to run a bot on a server, do you need a VPN or can you run it through any regular web host?
#927 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> a _web_ host? No, you need to be able to run binaries
#928 [19:33] <stickypixel> Alright, just curious.
#929 [19:33] <stickypixel> I'm new to bots.
#930 [19:35] <stickypixel> The only general downside to having slackware is that the clock is off by about 5 hours.
#931 [19:35] <stickypixel> Even after changing timezones.
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#934 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ..you don't have to
#935 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> there's a system setting for 'hardware clock is UTC', make sure it's set correctly
#936 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> then double-check your timezone settings
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#939 [19:42] <oldtopman> If you're dualbooting, make sure that's set to off.
#940 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> unless your other OS also likes the hardware clock set to UTC (:
#941 [19:46] <stickypixel> I'll check my timezone settings.
#942 [19:47] <stickypixel> Also, I do remember setting what the computer's time was to be, and I set it to local.
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#944 [19:47] <stickypixel> Well even after that I can't reconfigure my slackware again.
#945 [19:47] <Mom> how do you uninstall and reinstall the program? My son messed up his game. I do not see minecraft in add remove programs
#946 [19:47] <stickypixel> Open Minecraft, Click Options, Force Update, Close That, Login.
#947 [19:48] <Mom> thanks
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#949 [19:48] <stickypixel> bye, have a great time
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#951 [19:50] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti: Can you change the hardware clock setting without using the ISO disk?
#952 [19:50] <stickypixel> I've only seen it on there.
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#954 [19:51] <oldtopman> stickypixel: http://bit.ly/123mEaT
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#956 [19:53] <oldtopman> But even more importantly:
#957 [19:53] <oldtopman> #minecrafthelp #linux
#958 [19:53] <oldtopman> They are not the same.
#959 [19:53] <oldtopman> The difference is an important one.
#960 [19:54] <stickypixel> oldtopman: They should call you the oldwiseman :b
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#962 [19:57] <MrTubs95> im back...
#963 [19:59] <MrTubs95> any of the guys that were here earlier here now?
#964 [19:59] <stickypixel> I'm here.
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#966 [20:00] <sugoi> but he's not :)
#967 [20:00] <sugoi> how long did he wait?!
#968 [20:00] <stickypixel> Not long.
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#972 [20:16] <dispair> hello, i am looking for some information on mods for xbox 360. Any info?
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#974 [20:17] <sugoi> well..here we try to focus on vanilla mc, for pc
#975 [20:17] <sugoi> but um, let-me-google-that-for-you
#976 [20:17] <Lutzee> dispair: Not possible
#977 [20:18] <Lutzee> Chances are it never will be
#978 [20:18] <sugoi> true Lutzee
#979 [20:18] <sugoi> but some ppl mod via world file
#980 [20:18] <sugoi> but yes, dispair, if you want mods, join pc
#981 [20:18] <sugoi> consoles are entirely not in this arena
#982 [20:18] <dispair> ok, just checking, not an issue, i will just buy for my son
#983 [20:18] <sugoi> unlses you hack your console
#984 [20:19] <sugoi> why does everyone blame their son?
#985 [20:19] <sugoi> i don't get that
#986 [20:19] <dispair> i do not think his mom and her husband would like me to tear their xbox apart, i will just buy him a pc version
#987 [20:19] <sugoi> are they embarrassed to say it is for themselves?
#988 [20:19] <Lutzee> dispair: before you do, confirm the PC they have can run the game, the specs required are found here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#989 [20:20] <sugoi> for pc, there are a very large number of mods for mc
#990 [20:20] <Lutzee> er
#991 [20:20] <dispair> nope, just not my thing to play 8 bit
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#993 [20:20] <Lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_requirements wrong link...
#994 [20:20] <dispair> we already have none paid versions on our pc's
#995 [20:21] <dispair> but thanks lutzee. i will make shure i check the req's for newer versions
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#1001 [20:46] <danny12599> how do i make my bow power 4
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#1003 [20:48] <Kris> When we loaded minecraft it wasn't working properly. We had vista at the time (on 11/20). My husband upgraded to Windows8 and it still doesn't work. It looks like we have a version for WinXP. I also saw a message that there are "bad video drivers". Please HELP!
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#1006 [20:51] <Craftier67> Hey, I'm trying to install a elemental creeper mod to my mac but cannot seem to be able to do it
#1007 [20:52] <danny12599> how do i make my bow power 4
#1008 [20:52] <Craftier67> According to help videos I've seen, I should be able to access a folder under my Library/Application Support but the minecraft folder is not there.
#1009 [20:53] <danny12599> [17:49] <Kris> When we loaded minecraft it wasn't working properly. We had vista at the time (on 11/20). My husband upgraded to Windows8 and it still doesn't work. It looks like we have a version for WinXP. I also saw a message that there are "bad video drivers". Please HELP!
#1010 [20:53] <danny12599> Kris is more important
#1011 [20:53] <danny12599> Kris is more important
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#1020 [21:01] <darkcloyd> im having trouble with my account
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#1022 [21:01] <darkcloyd> when i logge din i get log in error
#1023 [21:02] <darkcloyd> it says on the profile screen i cant edit my skins becasue i need to buy the game'
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#1025 [21:02] <darkcloyd> i bought it on mojnag
#1026 [21:02] <darkcloyd> and i cant seem to download it
#1027 [21:02] <darkcloyd> i f i try the giftcard again
#1028 [21:03] <darkcloyd> it says its been used
#1029 [21:03] <Kris> is there any support here? We paid and downloaded this game, then paid again to upgrade our system and then paid again to update our drivers! All for this game!?! Ho do I get it to work?
#1030 [21:03] <darkcloyd> any help?
#1031 [21:04] <Kris> Is there anyone I can contact for support?
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#1039 [21:24] <darkcloyd> is anyone here
#1040 [21:24] <darkcloyd> because i was herea while ago and noone helped
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#1043 [21:35] <darkcloyd> can any of you help me?
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#1046 [21:35] <darkcloyd> is there any one from actual tech support here?
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#1049 [21:45] <Billy> I open up Minecraft after downloading a new mod into .minecraft.jar, and once i login to minecraft, at the very end of a loading screen it says "Done Loading" and freezes.
#1050 [21:46] <Andrio> Did you delete the META-INF folder?
#1051 [21:46] <Billy> yes. im pretty sure
#1052 [21:47] <Andrio> Is the mod the right version for your version of Minecraft?
#1053 [21:47] <Billy> uhm lemme check
#1054 [21:48] <Billy> no. does that mean i have to find one that's at my version? is that the problem?
#1055 [21:48] <Andrio> Yes.
#1056 [21:48] <Billy> okay, thanks alot. bye, god bless you :D
#1057 [21:48] <Andrio> :-)
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#1075 [22:52] <mutantkoala> uh... my girlfriend is having a crapton of trouble with her minecraft client
#1076 [22:52] <mutantkoala> it will connect to one smp server, but not another. and now it's apparently just not loading at all for her
#1077 [22:53] <mutantkoala> and she's on a completely clean and vanilla installation
#1078 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> Arfe we able to get information from her machine by which to help resolve her problem?
#1079 [22:57] <mutantkoala> i asked her to do a system restore to before the problem started... she just went off of steam, so...
#1080 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> no
#1081 [22:58] <mutantkoala> the problem began after we'd been mucking around with mods... but she completely deleted the minecraft folder and .exe and redownloaded it... shouldn't that have fixed the problem?
#1082 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> More information is required, such as a crash report that provides detailed information about what caused the problem
#1083 [22:59] <mutantkoala> how can there be a crash report for being able to connect to one server, but not another?
#1084 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> You said that now it's apparently not loading at all for her
#1085 [23:00] <mutantkoala> i'll ask her for the crash report when she comes back on
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#1087 [23:01] <mutantkoala> things like this would be so much easier if they happened to both of us at the same time...
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#1094 [23:31] <kodyak03> I can't create a new minecraft account?
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