#1 [00:01] <AkitoC> So, I know this may get answered a lot but I honestly could not find a fix anywhere, so I figured I'd come here. I'm attempting to play Minecraft (demo, browser version) on my new Windows 8 laptop. It was working just fine for about a week or two and then suddenly it just started to stop working on the Done Loading screen. Every thread I find with similar problems are all about Windows 7 and refer to the client version of the gam
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#3 [00:01] <AkitoC> but is it possible anyone can help me with this?
#4 [00:02] <AkitoC> And it's only now that I see "Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro."
#5 [00:03] <AkitoC> I'll see if that works.
#6 [00:03] <Andrio> Marc_IRL, it could also be a faulty mod.
#7 [00:03] <oldtopman> Marc_IRL: Nope, it's broken mods/forgetting to delete META_INF 90% of the time.
#8 [00:03] <AkitoC> I don't have any mods installed.
#9 [00:03] <AkitoC> Since it is the demo.
#10 [00:03] <AkitoC> Also it's the browser, not the client.
#11 [00:04] <oldtopman> Marc_IRL: Video drivers are always a #2 check, as the latest always help, then troubleshoot java.
#12 [00:05] <oldtopman> ??> AkitoC only/you
#13 [00:05] <VoxelHead> AkitoC: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#14 [00:05] <oldtopman> ??> AkitoC irc/multitasking
#15 [00:05] <VoxelHead> AkitoC: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#16 [00:05] <oldtopman> AkitoC: I would try disabling Metro.
#17 [00:06] <Marc_IRL> It's very likely that the person having the black screen issue is brand new to Minecraft, and doesn't know how to add a mod
#18 [00:07] <Andrio> It could be pre-modded... but I suppose whoever modded it should make sure it works before giving it away.
#19 [00:07] <Andrio> Also, browser, derp.
#20 [00:07] <Marc_IRL> ...we don't sell Minecraft "pre-modded"
#21 [00:08] <Andrio> My cousin got his copy pre-modded.
#22 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Then he didn't get it legally.
#23 [00:08] <Andrio> yeah...
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#25 [00:10] <AkitoC> Okay, so I'm googling how to disable Metro. Is there anyway to do that without going into DOS? My apologies for being a bit slow as I am still new to the OS.
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#32 [00:34] <AkitoC> Yeah, I can't figure out how to do it in the final version of Windows 8. :c
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#34 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: What do you mean by disabling metro? Are you wanting your desktop is active by default?
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#37 [00:37] <AkitoC> DiskDaemon, I guess it means disabling the Metro UI that 8 goes with. I'm not sure, myself really. It just says in the header of the chat "Windows 8 issues? Try disabling Metro."
#38 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> AkitoCL Install Windows 7 instead.
#39 [00:37] <AkitoC> If I had that kind of option, I would have done so. @3@
#40 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> I think that the disable metro piece was intended as a joke
#41 [00:38] <AkitoC> I guess I'm a little slow.
#42 [00:38] <AkitoC> But when I googled "How to disable metro"
#43 [00:38] <AkitoC> It actually yielded results so you can see how I might be confused.
#44 [00:39] <AkitoC> Apparently you could do it on the developer preview, but I guess you can't do it on the final version.
#45 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> For better or worse Windows 8 is here, and we have to deal with it. There's no option. The buggy-whip makers faced that problem, and we will continue to always face such issues.
#46 [00:41] <AkitoC> In other words, there's no known fix right now for my problem?
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#48 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that there is a Windows 8 specific issue that's causing the problem. Minecraft has always worked well for me on Windows 8, and continues to work well too.
#49 [00:42] <AkitoC> Minecraft is the only thing that doesn't work for Windows 8 on me. Bearing in mind, I don't use this laptop for games aside from Minecraft.
#50 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> Yes - people have said the same about Windows 7 too. It's because Minecraft is one of the few games that use Java and a different OpenGL graphics system.
#51 [00:44] <AkitoC> I think a Java update might have broke it for me. Because it didn't happen until after I downloaded a Java update.
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#53 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> Can we get some details about the problem?
#54 [00:45] <AkitoC> Well, it will start up as usual and then when it says "Done Loading" it stays on that screen.
#55 [00:45] <AkitoC> And never, ever changes.
#56 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> Does that happen on a new world too?
#57 [00:46] <AkitoC> It doesn't go to the menu screen at all is what I mean, so I can't test that out.
#58 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> There should be a crash log in the error-reports folder, of your .minecraft/ folder
#59 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#60 [00:46] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#61 [00:47] <AkitoC> It's the browser version of the game. Of the demo of the game actually.
#62 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> It's in the same location.
#63 [00:47] <AkitoC> Okay. Let me see if I can find that.
#64 [00:49] <AkitoC> There are two crash repor files in the crash reports folder.
#65 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> How recent is the most recent one?
#66 [00:49] <AkitoC> They're both from the 19th
#67 [00:49] <AkitoC> Of November.
#68 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> They're not relevant then
#69 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#70 [00:52] <AkitoC> If I use Method 2, does it matter where I save the file?
#71 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> Just as long as you can get to that file. You may want to delete it too when you're finished.
#72 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> When you have the log, paste it to pastebin so that we can easily see what you have there.
#73 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#74 [00:53] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#78 [00:56] <AkitoC> Everytime I attempt to copy, it deselets, how do I simply copy it? :x I'm sorry.
#79 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> Copy what?
#80 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the window, choose select all, then press Enter to copy the text
#81 [00:58] <AkitoC> Oh, you press Enter. The problem was that I was trying to right-click, Copy. Derp. My mistake.
#82 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> That's okay - sometimes assumptions are made about how it comes to copying text
#83 [01:01] <AkitoC> http://pastebin.com/03fjN4Mc
#84 [01:02] <AkitoC> Hopefully that will work.
#85 [01:02] <DiskDaemon> Looks like the attempt to get a crash report wasn't successful - use a different method
#86 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> When it says that the system cannot find the path specified, that seems to mean that it can't find Java. That implies that you don't have Java installed at that location, which means that you have the 32-bit version of Java installed. Install the 64-bit version of Java.
#87 [01:04] <DiskDaemon> You get it from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#88 [01:06] <AkitoC> Will I have to uninstall the 32-bit version first?
#89 [01:06] <AkitoC> So it doesn't conflict?
#90 [01:06] <DiskDaemon> no
#91 [01:06] <AkitoC> Okay. Wonderful.
#92 [01:08] <AkitoC> Okay, the 64-bit version installed, so I'll have to restart FireFox right?
#93 [01:09] <DiskDaemon> That could be a good idea
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#97 [01:11] <AkitoC> Upon trying again, the problem persists.
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#99 [01:12] <AkitoC> It still stays on the Done Loading screen.
#100 [01:13] <DiskDaemon> We're trying to get a crash report at the moment.
#101 [01:14] <AkitoC> So I'll have to try another one of those methods I take it?
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#103 [01:14] <DiskDaemon> They all should work fine. Some work easier than others due to the technical experience of the user.
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#106 [01:16] <AkitoC> Well, I don't know if it's because of the fact that I now have the 64 bit version installed or not, but Method 3 yielded a different error.
#107 [01:16] <DiskDaemon> Good - let us have it
#108 [01:17] <AkitoC> http://pastebin.com/3ZuhRyJb
#109 [01:17] <AkitoC> I think that's a different error anyway
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#111 [01:18] <AkitoC> Yup, those are different.
#112 [01:18] <minecraftnerdy> i have downloading issues with minecraft
#113 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: That one seems to be complaining that you don't have files from the premium version. Use one of the other methods instead
#114 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: What sort of downloading issues?
#115 [01:18] <AkitoC> Okay. The only one left to use is the first.
#116 [01:19] <minecraftnerdy> uhhh what??
#117 [01:19] <minecraftnerdy> @diskdaemon
#118 [01:19] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: Please communicate in a comprehensible manner.
#119 [01:20] <minecraftnerdy> i can download it and all but when i try opening it, it just says its "damaged and should be moved to the trash bin"
#120 [01:20] <AkitoC> The problem with the first one is that it asks me to go the folder with minecraft.exe and I do not have the file because I'm using the browser version.
#121 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: You're on a mac, aren't you
#122 [01:20] <minecraftnerdy> yes
#123 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> ??> minecraftnerdy mac/gatekeeper
#124 [01:20] <VoxelHead> minecraftnerdy: (mac/gatekeeper) Newer versions of OS X add new security measures which give scary warning messages for any programs not from the App store. To force your computer to allow you to play Minecraft, ctrl-click or right-click your Minecraft icon, and select Open.
#125 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: That's okay, go and get it.
#126 [01:21] <minecraftnerdy> thx!
#127 [01:22] <minecraftnerdy> still says damaged
#128 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: The documentation has further details that can help you
#129 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? mc/gatekeeper/documentation
#130 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/gatekeeper/documentation
#131 [01:23] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper/documentation: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
#132 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Set gatekeeper to "Anywhere"
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#134 [01:24] <dark_injecTor> hi all
#135 [01:24] <dark_injecTor> any1 from Greece?
#136 [01:24] <AkitoC> So when it says use Sift + Right to open a prompt, but all that does is select minecraft.exe
#137 [01:25] <AkitoC> Wait, hold on. I might be dumb and illiterate.
#138 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: A certain detail needs to be performed first before that, which is: "With no files selected (left click on background to deselect),"
#139 [01:26] <AkitoC> Did that.
#140 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> So what happens when you shift_right click on the desktop - do you see the context-sensitive menu that provides the lets you open a command window there?
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#142 [01:28] <AkitoC> Oh, I misunderstood what it by background.
#143 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
#144 [01:28] <minecraftnerdy> its still telling me its damaged. and i read a little further that someone has altered it or something like that
#145 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: The best help for that problem is to adjust your Mac settings. That documentation page has all of the details for you
#146 [01:29] <AkitoC> I thought that they meant the background of the folder, not the background of the desktop.
#147 [01:29] <minecraftnerdy> i did and tried, its still saying its damaged
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#149 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> minecraftnerdy: Sorry, I can't help further with mac issues. That solution you have been given is widely known to fix the problem that you are experiencing.
#150 [01:31] <minecraftnerdy> no worries i'll find something else...
#151 [01:32] <AkitoC> http://pastebin.com/g3TkzFX2
#152 [01:32] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#153 [01:33] <AkitoC> In the Documents folder, but I also copied a shortcut to the Desktop.
#154 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> The shortcut is not relevant here.
#155 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: Go to where the minecraft.exe file is.
#156 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> Then follow those instructions
#157 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> I think that I made the .exe part of minecraft.exe clear earlier on too
#158 [01:35] <AkitoC> Like I said, all it does when I shift + right click is go to the Arrange/Sort/View/etc. dialogue.
#159 [01:36] <AkitoC> No files are selected.
#160 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> Oh hurray - windows 8 has different behaviour there
#161 [01:37] <AkitoC> Yup :v
#162 [01:38] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: Untwirl the Documents folder so that you can see My Documents within it, and then shift+right click on My Documents instead
#163 [01:39] <AkitoC> Okay, now I get the Open new command option
#164 [01:40] <AkitoC> Only in the Libraries folder, not in any folder beyond that point.
#165 [01:40] <DiskDaemon> Are you doing that on the Documents folder, or on the My Documents folder?
#166 [01:40] <DiskDaemon> You should be able to untwirl the Documents folder to reveal more within it. One being My Documents, and another called Public Documents
#167 [01:41] <AkitoC> I know what you're talking about, I'm having a bit of trouble finding it. I was doing it on just Documents.
#168 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> It's the My Documents one that we're interested in
#169 [01:42] <AkitoC> Okay, now I got it, I think.
#170 [01:42] <AkitoC> Wait
#171 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> All we are trying to achieve is to open a command prompt window to your documents folder.
#172 [01:43] <AkitoC> No. I managed to get to "My Documents," but I had to go in through C:\Users\ etc. I can't seem to find the one that separates My Documents and Personal Documents.
#173 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> The Libraries folder contains Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos. The Documents contains My Documents an Public Documents
#174 [01:45] <DiskDaemon> It's the folders in the folder pane that I'm referring to here - not the displayed list of what's contained within a folder
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#176 [01:48] <AkitoC> Well, when I click Documents in Libraries, there's no choice for Public Documents or My Documents.
#177 [01:48] <AkitoC> It just takes me straight to the same thing I see in My Documents.
#178 [01:48] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: Does the Documents folder show an arrow just to the left of the Documents name?
#179 [01:49] <AkitoC> ... A derp. My bad. How did I not see that?
#180 [01:49] <DiskDaemon> AkitoC: You may thank Microsoft for making this simple task so easy for you to perform.
#181 [01:50] <AkitoC> I will be sure to offer them my house and my first born son when this is all said and done.
#182 [01:50] <AkitoC> Okay, so yeah, now I see the two folders.
#183 [01:50] <DiskDaemon> You've also learned that to "untwirl" something is to click the arrow so that it shows what is contained within.
#184 [01:50] <AkitoC> The Public and My Document folders, I mean.
#185 [01:51] <AkitoC> I'm learning so much today! I feel edumacated
#186 [01:52] <DiskDaemon> All said and done, it may have just been easier to run the following command: cmd /K cd %userprofile%\documents
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#188 [01:54] <AkitoC> Well, gee... yeah, that would have saved us a lot of effort.
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#191 [01:54] <DiskDaemon> I like to think that all is not lost though - would as much have been learned?
#192 [01:55] <AkitoC> So now I just copy the command into the prompt that refers to the Documents folder and NOT the desktop folder, right? Just want to make sure I'm doing it right before I mess up again.
#193 [01:55] <AkitoC> Also, I suppose not.
#194 [01:55] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that the desktop is mentioned anywhere there.
#195 [01:55] <AkitoC> It's not. That was a derp on my part.
#196 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.8250]
#197 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> (c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
#198 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> C:\Users\Paul>
#199 [01:56] <DiskDaemon> No, not that...
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#200 [01:57] <AkitoC> So I manage to launch Minecraft, so now I just login, according to the instructions.
#201 [01:58] <AkitoC> Also, there will be a need for derp in our lives.
#202 [01:58] <DiskDaemon> Attempt to login, fail (you're supposed to) then attempt to play the demo
#203 [01:59] <AkitoC> Done loaing, then black screen. That means it's not working, which in turns means I'm doing it right, right?
#204 [01:59] <DiskDaemon> Let's see what comes of things
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#207 [02:00] <AkitoC> I think an error showed up in the prompt, though I'm not sure if that was there before or after I tried to play the demo.
#208 [02:00] <DiskDaemon> that's fine
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#210 [02:01] <AkitoC> http://pastebin.com/WZMd1Bg1
#211 [02:02] <DiskDaemon> Okay, the demo is having trouble getting the lwjgl file, which is the graphics library file.
#212 [02:02] <DiskDaemon> You're done with the launcher for now, because only the web site demo is allowed to download those files when you're not a premium user.
#213 [02:03] <AkitoC> Okay, so what do I then? Or what do I find?
#214 [02:03] <DiskDaemon> So, the problem is that something on the computer is preventing the web site demof rom downloading the files that it needs to use. That points the finger squarely at security software, most probably an antivirus program that's blocking the attempted file transfer.
#215 [02:04] <DiskDaemon> Which antivirus program do you use? avg or something similar?
#216 [02:04] <AkitoC> I do still have the Norton trial... I was going to wait until that expired to download AVG.
#217 [02:05] <DiskDaemon> Urgh, Norton. Okay - I'll need to remind myself about how to deal with that
#218 [02:05] <AkitoC> Yes, I know Norton is awful.
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#220 [02:05] <AkitoC> I was just hestiating to delete it in case something happened to my computer before the warranty expired.
#221 [02:05] <AkitoC> So they couldn't say that whatever I did destroyed it.
#222 [02:06] <AkitoC> Anyway, I could just uninstall Norton and install AVG now.
#223 [02:06] <AkitoC> Would that be a good idea or no?
#224 [02:06] <DiskDaemon> I should let you know that AVG has something called LinkScanner which is known to cause issues with downloading Minecraft files
#225 [02:07] <AkitoC> I know.
#226 [02:07] <AkitoC> I have AVG on my other computer
#227 [02:07] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disabling that for the purpose of transferring the files is a known working solution
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#229 [02:07] <DiskDaemon> Other than uninstalling Norton - I have no details on how to resolve a demo situation with it installed, but research continues
#230 [02:08] <AkitoC> Okay. Let me try that then. I have AVG on my other computer and I can load Minecraft on that, albeit it's an old hunk of junk so it's not preferable.
#231 [02:08] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - I could set up a virtual machine with Norton installed and no Minecraft, and test out such a scenario
#232 [02:09] <DiskDaemon> That might be too sensible though...
#233 [02:09] <AkitoC> Plus timely.
#234 [02:10] <AkitoC> Okay, so it's just "Norton Internet Security." Not Norton anything else. So that does make sense.
#235 [02:10] <AkitoC> As to how it could conflict
#236 [02:11] <AkitoC> Oh goody. I click Uninstall, loud chiming noise, doesn't uninstall.
#237 [02:11] <AkitoC> Such is the way of the Norton.
#238 [02:11] <DiskDaemon> Righto - I'll get that. It's likely to be an hour or so before such tests are complete for me though. I'll start by cloning a windows 7 virtual machine, then get nortons, and see if the problem can be duplicated on there
#239 [02:12] <AkitoC> That sounds like it might be helpful.
#240 [02:13] <AkitoC> If I can uninstall Norton at all
#241 [02:13] <AkitoC> That would be a miracle.
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#249 [02:30] <AkitoC> Welp, can't uninstall Norton. :L
#250 [02:36] <AkitoC> Wait, think I got it.
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#269 [03:29] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, there's going to be a problem with testing this Norton Internet Security. It's opt-out software hat requires your credit card to try out the trial, after which you purchase a one year ongoing subscription if you don't fully complete the customer support section to remove your details before the month is up.
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#278 [03:53] <AkitoC> DiskDaemon: Ah well then. Don't worry too much about it
#279 [03:53] <AkitoC> Because
#280 [03:53] <AkitoC> I uninstalled Norton and I still couldn't get through
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#282 [03:53] <AkitoC> Even with no antivirus whatsoever.
#283 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> I've brought down a separate version, to see if Norton is responsible for causing the issue
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#285 [03:54] <AkitoC> Would it still be the issue even after it's been uninstalled?
#286 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> That's unknown at this stage
#287 [03:55] <AkitoC> Hmm. I'm at a loss then. It is interesting to note that I had to go to their website and download a "Remover" because the Uinstall Programs wouldn't do anything.
#288 [03:55] <AkitoC> Uninstall*
#289 [03:56] <AkitoC> So maybe that's they're grand plan. To make you think you have it uninstalled but it's really still there causing you problems.
#290 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> When Java is installed I'll see how this virtual machine does with the demo
#291 [03:57] <AkitoC> Okie dokie. Hopefully it will yield something helpful. I really don't want to have to play Minecraft on my lousy desktop.
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#293 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> Dammit, things seem to be working well with the demo running under a virtual machine with Norton Internet Security installed on it
#294 [03:59] <AkitoC> The only time I've ever heard that in a negative light. @3@
#295 [04:00] <AkitoC> But seriously, darn.
#296 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so what details can you give us about what happens when you go to the the minecraft.net/demo page
#297 [04:01] <AkitoC> The same as before. I go and occasionally it was show the Java thing loading but usually not. But it will always direct a screen that says "Done Loading" and stay there until... well, always. It won't give a crash report or anything.
#298 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> Usually not?
#299 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's see if it was a troubled download, by removing what it had previously downloaded
#300 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#301 [04:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#302 [04:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#303 [04:02] <AkitoC> Usually not. Usually it just goes strraight to the "Done Loading" screen. I don't know if that's because of my computer loading so fast that the Java logo doesn't appear or because it just doesn't.
#304 [04:04] <AkitoC> Okay, everything's deleted, let's try again.
#305 [04:04] <AkitoC> It's redownloading.
#306 [04:04] <AkitoC> It works! I'm on the demo page :D
#307 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> Well done - sorry for the delay while checking if Norton was an issue got sortrd out
#308 [04:05] <AkitoC> It's no trouble. Thank you for being patient with me through the whole My Documents/Personal Documents debacle.
#309 [04:05] <AkitoC> And, well, through most of it.
#310 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome - I'll have to see if other consistant ways can be found, that work with XP, Vista, 7 and 8 all at the same time
#311 [04:07] <AkitoC> Yeah, I hate when Microsoft feels the need to change key things and make everything a thousand times harder.
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#313 [04:10] <AkitoC> Anyway, I'll be off to play now. Thanks again.
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#316 [04:15] <WinneR> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=HBwr80bR-2foKDsmH9finK07NzCqnVrcUjgmo98XySnkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#episodio-5
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#318 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> That's just blatent, that is.
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#322 [04:32] <Gone_Ralex> did they not netban him yet....
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#338 [06:33] <awef> omg
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#340 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> what?
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#348 [07:10] <Wankbank> Hello?
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#351 [07:13] <Wankbank> Hi, my mc name was changed on the forums.
#352 [07:13] <Wankbank> Could i ask why?
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#358 [07:14] <IAmBank> Okay
#359 [07:15] <IAmBank> Why was my forums account name changed without me being notified or anything?
#360 [07:15] <IAmBank> ?
#361 [07:15] <DiskDaemon> IAmBank: Thank you - there are bots in here that kick people for saying bad words, so conversation with people who have them in their damned name becomes challenging
#362 [07:16] <IAmBank> Sorry.
#363 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> IAmBank: We have nothing to do with the forums
#364 [07:16] <IAmBank> umm
#365 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> Is it the minecraft forums that you're talking about?
#366 [07:16] <IAmBank> How do i get help with the forums then?
#367 [07:16] <IAmBank> yes
#368 [07:16] <IAmBank> Most certainly.
#369 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> See the #minecraftforums channel
#370 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> Do you know how to change channels?
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#373 [07:20] <IAmBank> Yes
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#375 [08:00] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: I thought that the bots dont kick people with op
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#390 [09:33] <clarjon1> SinZ: Noone is below the rules :3
#391 [09:33] <clarjon1> SinZ: er, above the rules. Not even ops.
#392 [09:33] <TheNoodle> gg clarjon1
#393 [09:33] <TheNoodle> Also, pretty sure the bots are above the rules :D
#394 [09:34] <SinZ> and for such a trivial thing, that the bots get wrong all the time
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#396 [09:40] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, I AM NOT BELOW THE RULES
#397 [09:40] <tyteen4a03> yeah, that moment could use some caps so I did
#398 [09:40] <TheNoodle> tyteen4a03, I'll be below your rules
#399 [09:41] <tyteen4a03> yay
#400 [09:41] <tyteen4a03> in other news, I am coding but I have no idea what I am doing
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#402 [09:52] <clarjon1> tyteen4a03: Welcome to the club!
#403 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, no seriously
#404 [09:53] <TheNoodle> srs
#405 [09:53] <clarjon1> tyteen4a03: i'm srs too
#406 [09:54] <TheNoodle> spr srs?
#407 [09:54] <tyteen4a03> yup
#408 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> https://github.com/tyteen4a03/cloudBox
#409 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> look at this mess
#410 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> I have absolutely no idea where I am heading
#411 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> somebody save me before I bang into icebergs
#412 [10:07] <SinZ> tyteen4a03: the dangers of doing a cloud based system
#413 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, it'll probably just be distributed
#414 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> SinZ, of course you can hook a server to another server via the internet but it would probably just be slow
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#417 [10:31] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Heh, that's quite a break you took from that project.
#418 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, I had no idea where I was heading and school took over, so yeah
#419 [10:32] <Morrolan> Ah, the infamous school.
#420 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> now that I am really close to winter break and college app is coming up, maybe I should do more work
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#429 [11:05] <|Anthony|> need some help with potions. I'll give one example and hope it translates to all similar cases...
#430 [11:06] <|Anthony|> potion of strength II is made by combining glowstone dust with either a potion of strength base or extended
#431 [11:07] <|Anthony|> will the resulting potion of strength II be extended if the initial potion was extended already?
#432 [11:07] <|Anthony|> or will it have to be extended again?
#433 [11:08] <|Anthony|> or for those that you can add redstone dust to a level I or level II potion to make an extended
#434 [11:08] <|Anthony|> will the resulting potion keep the level?
#435 [11:10] <Andrio> I don't think that's possible.
#436 [11:11] <Andrio> You can't have a potion that's both upgraded and extended.
#437 [11:11] <Andrio> Well, not without inventory editing.
#438 [11:11] <Andrio> You can do it with the /give command.
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#441 [11:32] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Brewing
#442 [11:32] <|Anthony|> so then some of the items listed there will be redundant?
#443 [11:32] <|Anthony|> like there are multiple formulas and such
#444 [11:33] <|Anthony|> adding redstone dust to a level 2 potion of strength will extend it but revert it to a level 1
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#448 [11:35] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Potions#Unbrewable_potions
#449 [11:35] <|Anthony|> yeah
#450 [11:35] <|Anthony|> they exist, just not brewable
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#455 [11:42] <|Anthony|> 4 different ways to make a potion of harming II
#456 [11:42] <|Anthony|> ugh
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#487 [12:55] <sugoi> my teeth are clean!
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#489 [12:55] <benhunter09|ill> yay!
#490 [12:55] <sugoi> yeah!
#491 [12:56] <sugoi> dental hygenist was pretty cute, too
#492 [12:56] <sugoi> double win!
#493 [12:56] <Selbram> woot
#494 [12:56] <Eddie> You better brush your teeth often to prevent plaque and tartar
#495 [12:56] <Eddie> it'll all come back if you don't
#496 [12:56] <Selbram> Do you even floss?
#497 [12:56] <sugoi> indeed, tho my brushing was top notch, she said, i do need to floss more :)
#498 [12:56] <Selbram> lol
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#500 [12:57] <benhunter09|ill> Recommended twice a day brushing
#501 [12:57] <Eddie> I floss everyday
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#503 [12:57] <sugoi> Eddie: nice
#504 [12:57] <Eddie> Or nearly everyday
#505 [12:57] <Eddie> Brush + mouthwash at least twice a day.
#506 [12:57] <sugoi> now the difficult part; figuring out the first thing to eat today that will ruin this perfect clean sheen
#507 [12:57] <Eddie> Including cleaning my tongue
#508 [12:58] <sugoi> Eddie: i bet you don't get the appreciation you deserve
#509 [12:59] * benhunter09|ill gives a medal to Eddie
#509 [13:00] <benhunter09|ill> A medal for best oral hygiene
#510 [13:00] <Eddie> I started this last year
#511 [13:01] <Eddie> thank you benhunter09|ill
#512 [13:01] <Eddie> I'm sorry you're ill
#513 [13:01] <Eddie> GET BETTER
#514 [13:01] <benhunter09|ill> I WILL (hopefully)
#515 [13:01] * sugoi thinks of bestie boys, it's time to get ill
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#536 [13:48] <lollypop> i have a game account but cannot download.
#537 [13:48] <sugoi> lollypop: has it worked before?
#538 [13:49] <sugoi> are you running the launcher, have entered your EMAIL and password, click login, and it starts the download and just hangs?
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#543 [13:56] <|Anthony|> and gunpowder can be added at any point in the brewing process and the final potion will be a splash
#544 [13:56] <|Anthony|> right?
#545 [13:57] <|Anthony|> could just add gunpowder to a mundane before adding any other ingredients to the mix
#546 [13:59] <SinZ> iirc gunpowder has to be the final step
#547 [13:59] <SinZ> like how bottled water has to be the first step
#548 [14:00] <|Anthony|> Finally, Gunpowder can be added to a potion at any stage to convert it to a Splash Potion, which can be thrown to disperse its effect in a radius.
#549 [14:00] <|Anthony|> quote from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Brewing
#550 [14:00] <|Anthony|> :/
#551 [14:01] <|Anthony|> it is listed as "Finally" but it also says "at any stage"
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#554 [14:05] <zionliberty> hi i have a glitch when i log into a minecraft server where i cant move and if i try to move i get kicked for flying. What can i do?
#555 [14:05] <sugoi> zionliberty: haha, nice
#556 [14:05] <|Anthony|> is this any server you go to?
#557 [14:05] <|Anthony|> or just a few
#558 [14:05] <zionliberty> all
#559 [14:05] <sugoi> zionliberty: what about single play?
#560 [14:05] <zionliberty> ive tried like 20 :S
#561 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> are you using any client mods?
#562 [14:06] <|Anthony|> and what is you connection speed
#563 [14:06] <zionliberty> single player is fine
#564 [14:06] <zionliberty> and no mods used
#565 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> are the servers modded?
#566 [14:06] <zionliberty> i forced update to check if it was mods
#567 [14:06] <sugoi> really :) 20 vanilla servers? :)
#568 [14:06] <zionliberty> yeah i wanted to be sure it wasnt just my usual servers
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#570 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> hmmm
#571 [14:07] <zionliberty> its really anoying
#572 [14:07] <|Anthony|> and what is you connection speed, and are the servers you connect to on the other side of the globe
#573 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> I"m on |Anthony|'s camp at present- detail your connection speed, latency, etc.
#574 [14:07] <zionliberty> no my usual server is in the uk with me and i get near 50-60 ping
#575 [14:07] <|Anthony|> reasonable ping
#576 [14:08] <sugoi> zionliberty: can you test a local server?
#577 [14:08] <sugoi> just download the server, start it, connect to localhost
#578 [14:08] <|Anthony|> still sounds like a client side lag issue
#579 [14:08] <zionliberty> how do you mean test?
#580 [14:09] <sugoi> AndrewPH: sure, but i've never had a user kicked for flying
#581 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: I have
#582 [14:09] <|Anthony|> yup
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#584 [14:09] <sugoi> well, i must be lucky :)
#585 [14:14] <zionliberty> anyone got anything?
#586 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> zionliberty: we were waiting on you to test a local server
#587 [14:14] <sugoi> they think it is timeout, but your ping is fine
#588 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> you could also try this:
#589 [14:14] <sugoi> zionliberty: yeah, download the server from minecraft.net/download
#590 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> zionliberty win/profile
#591 [14:14] <VoxelHead> zionliberty: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#592 [14:14] <VoxelHead> zionliberty: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#593 [14:14] <sugoi> mmm, sure, let's do server test first
#594 [14:15] <sugoi> zionliberty: download the server from minecarft.net/download
#595 [14:15] <sugoi> then just run it (in its own dir, as it'll create a bunch of files and folders)
#596 [14:15] <sugoi> then, while it is running, start up your client, add server "localhost" and try it out
#597 [14:15] <sugoi> then, report
#598 [14:15] <sugoi> after the test, stop the server, and delete it's folder
#599 [14:16] <zionliberty> right ill do that now :P
#600 [14:18] <sugoi> its* folder
#601 [14:18] <sugoi> spelling, not for the faint of heart
#602 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> it was properly spelled; just the wrong homophone
#603 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> (:
#604 [14:18] <sugoi> heh
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#606 [14:20] <|Anthony|> lmao
#607 [14:21] <zionliberty> right i ran the server thing and added it what now?
#608 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> zionliberty: now fire up the client, and direct-connect to the server 'localhost' or failing that, '127.0.0.1'
#609 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> and see if you have the same problem
#610 [14:23] <zionliberty> nope its fine
#611 [14:23] <|Anthony|> interwebs
#612 [14:23] <sugoi> well, could he connect to a vanilla server we knwo to be good?
#613 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> out of curiosity, coudl you also check to see if the problem is persisting on the servers in question?
#614 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> I can fire up a test server real quick
#615 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> the vanilliest of the vanilla
#616 [14:24] <|Anthony|> do they even exist?
#617 [14:24] <|Anthony|> lol
#618 [14:24] <sugoi> :)
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#620 [14:24] <zionliberty> nope still got the glitch
#621 [14:24] <sugoi> zionliberty: DopeGhoti will give you a server to connect to
#622 [14:26] <zionliberty> ok :P
#623 [14:27] <|Anthony|> if it still fails, DopeGhoti will be able to see the server side reason
#624 [14:27] * worldmc is now known as worldmc|off
#625 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> okay
#626 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> connect to vps.dope.ghoti.me
#627 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> he wants to know if he's standing still; can anyone join him briefly?
#628 [14:31] <|Anthony|> don't have latest mc installed :/
#629 [14:31] * sugoi pings wife at home
#629 [14:31] <|Anthony|> still running 1.3.2
#630 [14:33] <sugoi> have him try to break a block
#631 [14:33] <sugoi> my mrs will not be able to for a few minutes
#632 [14:34] <zionliberty> block breaking dont work :S
#633 [14:35] * worldmc|off is now known as worldmc
#634 [14:35] <sugoi> you are away from spawn?
#635 [14:35] <zionliberty> yep
#636 [14:35] <|Anthony|> have you done a simple speedtest.net to check your own connection status?
#637 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> it's probably CPU load
#638 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> this VPS is not meant to be running Minecraft
#639 [14:36] <sugoi> i can do it
#640 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> do it as in hop on the server, or as in something else?
#641 [14:38] <sugoi> zionliberty: use 50.53.67.154
#642 [14:38] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: sorry, at work - can't test it myself
#643 [14:38] <sugoi> he connected
#644 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> nice now the server throws an exception on a sane shutdown.
#645 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> GG, Notch
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#650 [14:50] <sugoi> he definitely has some lag
#651 [14:51] <sugoi> ok. .. first of all, i think he spawn in a tree or something?
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#653 [14:51] <sugoi> but had serious lag until i tp'd him to another player
#654 [14:51] <sugoi> then he was moving and breaking blocks
#655 [14:51] <sugoi> but, 'zipping' around too (perspective of other player)
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#658 [14:53] <Jhwarby> Hey Guys, ok, so every time someone joins my server, they apparently don't have a level.dat, and every time they join the server, it deletes their old one and makes a new one, something like that, anyone familiar with this?
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#660 [14:54] <Jhwarby> And yes, I do finally have a question that's not about plugins to ask on this channel.
#661 [14:54] <Jhwarby> So YEAH.
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#665 [14:57] <sugoi> Jhwarby: there is only one level.dat per world
#666 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#667 [14:57] <sugoi> not per player
#668 [14:57] <sugoi> there is a [player].dat per player
#669 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> unless you're thinking of players' .dat files
#670 [14:57] <sugoi> are you saying that is gone?
#671 [14:57] <sugoi> this essentially would erase their xp and inventory
#672 [14:57] <sugoi> and location
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#674 [15:01] <sugoi> Jhwarby: on the other hand, i have seen modpack launchers (ftb, tekkit, multimc) which create profiles of accounts and mods
#675 [15:01] <Jhwarby> Well I restarted my server,
#676 [15:01] <sugoi> where the achievement stats file is lost on each load
#677 [15:02] <sugoi> which is client side
#678 [15:02] <Jhwarby> I restarted my server, then someone joined, and it says player.dat was not found, generating one now... done! Or something like that
#679 [15:02] <Jhwarby> Every time I restart.
#680 [15:02] <sugoi> hmm, write permissions problem?
#681 [15:02] <sugoi> linux server? right user starting server?
#682 [15:03] <Jhwarby> Bukkit server
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#684 [15:03] <Jhwarby> ?
#685 [15:03] <sugoi> Jhwarby: i'm talking about the operating system
#686 [15:03] <Jhwarby> I'm using windows
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#688 [15:03] <sugoi> and the directory permissions
#689 [15:03] <Jhwarby> But I don't host my server
#690 [15:03] <sugoi> while it is running, can you verify there is a player.dat file?
#691 [15:03] <sugoi> and then, on shutdown, can you check if it is deleted?
#692 [15:04] <Jhwarby> Let me restart my server, then join it.
#693 [15:04] <sugoi> Jhwarby: btw
#694 [15:04] <sugoi> i'm NOT talking about verifying via the game
#695 [15:04] <sugoi> i'm talking about literally looking in the dir on the machine
#696 [15:05] <sugoi> you'll find them in: /path/to/server/folder/[WORLD_NAME]/players/[PLAYER_NAME].dat
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#699 [15:06] <Jhwarby> Ok, let me look
#700 [15:06] <Jhwarby> I'm sure I've seen them there
#701 [15:06] <Jhwarby> I restarted my server, and it didn't generate a new dat file for him, and I think there's still onee there.
#702 [15:07] <sugoi> you think there's still one _what_ _where_
#703 [15:07] <Jhwarby> Yep, inside world/players There's a dat for everyone who's ever joined.
#704 [15:07] <sugoi> ok
#705 [15:08] <sugoi> but when he joins again, your server console says no dat file found?
#706 [15:08] <Jhwarby> Is sk89q's chat thing on esper or synirc?
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#708 [15:08] <sugoi> don't know, i'd have to google it :)
#709 [15:08] <Jhwarby> I'll try synirc
#710 [15:09] <Jhwarby> It's esper
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#729 [16:04] <Ollie2000> Can someone help me? I'm on alienware and I don't get the option to run my minecraft with either of my two grapics cards, is there a reason for this?
#730 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> Ollie2000: Is it a laptop?
#731 [16:05] <Ollie2000> Yes
#732 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> It's most likely a discrete graphics issue then
#733 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#734 [16:05] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#735 [16:05] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#736 [16:06] <sugoi> Ollie2000: after you make sure your driver is latest, come back for other thoughts i have
#737 [16:06] <sugoi> your intel cpu driver that is
#738 [16:07] <sugoi> the 2nd 'gpu' you have is really the hd graphics on the cpu
#739 [16:07] * Grim_Reaper wasn't aware sugoi had thoughts
#739 [16:07] <sugoi> ...
#740 [16:07] <sugoi> i don't have a good come back for that
#741 [16:07] <Grim_Reaper> It wasn't an insult :p
#742 [16:07] <sugoi> haha
#743 [16:07] <Ollie2000> I'm pretty sure it's up to date.
#744 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> I thought you were totally a robot with programmed responses *coughs*
#745 [16:08] <sugoi> Ollie2000: windows update isn't sufficient, honestly, go to intel.com and download the driver tool
#746 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#747 [16:08] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: that was just our role play last night
#748 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#749 [16:11] <Ollie2000> I have no idea how to download the tool, as in I can't find it.
#750 [16:11] <sugoi> intel has an auto detect tool, let me grab that for you
#751 [16:12] <Ollie2000> thanks.
#752 [16:12] <sugoi> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_iduu
#753 [16:12] <sugoi> now
#754 [16:12] <sugoi> it will find all intel products
#755 [16:12] <sugoi> not just your cpu
#756 [16:12] <sugoi> update what you want, but this discussion is specifically about your cpu
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#758 [16:14] <Ollie2000> I can update my Graphics Driver
#759 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/intel
#760 [16:14] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#761 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> (also)
#762 [16:14] <sugoi> Ollie2000: yes, that, update your graphics driver
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#764 [16:19] <Ollie2000> Okay, I installed but I have to restart my laptop.
#765 [16:20] <sugoi> we'll be here
#766 [16:20] <Ollie2000> Okay
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#773 [16:22] <Ollie2000> I'm back.
#774 [16:22] <Ollie2000> Now what?
#775 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Try running the game
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#780 [16:24] <Ollie2000> holy crap, I'm running so much faster.
#781 [16:24] <sugoi> haha ok but..is the correct card being used?
#782 [16:24] <sugoi> i'm sure a good driver for the cpu's hd graphics is going to help
#783 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#784 [16:25] <sugoi> but you might have even better fps with your dedicated gpu
#785 [16:25] <Ollie2000> I'm not sure which card it's using.
#786 [16:25] <sugoi> Ollie2000: i recommend you download gpu-z
#787 [16:25] <Ollie2000> okay.
#788 [16:25] <sugoi> run the game, and watch gpu-z -- it'll give you realtime data about gpu load
#789 [16:25] <sugoi> and you'll be able to switch between the cards (in gpu-z) to see which is being used
#790 [16:26] <sugoi> note: gpu-z's download is surrounded by ads
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#792 [16:26] <sugoi> oh wait no, i'm thinking of cpu-z
#793 [16:26] <sugoi> their site is ad-covered
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#795 [16:27] <sugoi> gpu-z download isn't too bad
#796 [16:27] <sugoi> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2181/mirrors.php
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#798 [16:28] <Ollie2000> It says I'm running on my intel graphics card.
#799 [16:29] <sugoi> Ollie2000: you have an nvidia card?
#800 [16:29] <Ollie2000> no, Radeon
#801 [16:29] <sugoi> ok, i don't know radeon's features, but it is probably similar
#802 [16:29] <sugoi> let me explain it as if you had nvidia
#803 [16:30] <Ollie2000> Okay.
#804 [16:31] <sugoi> (you would) right click on the desktop, select "nvidia control panel", then go to 3d settings, and from there you can tell it to always use your nvidia card
#805 [16:31] <Ollie2000> Yes, I know that, why do I always seem to get the more complicated stuff whatever I get?
#806 [16:32] <Ollie2000> If I have something there is always something else out there which is simpler.
#807 [16:32] <Ollie2000> which probably works better.
#808 [16:33] <sugoi> well also go to ati's site and make sure your driver is latest
#809 [16:33] <Ollie2000> Okay.
#810 [16:33] <sugoi> then see if that driver install gives you a control panel you can look at
#811 [16:34] <Ollie2000> It doesn't, or at least I havn't found it.
#812 [16:34] <sugoi> well, there are other ppl here that know radeon, i know nothing about ati cards
#813 [16:35] <sugoi> all i can tell you for sure is that my teeth are super clean today
#814 [16:35] <Ollie2000> Okay, I'd need one of them to answer.
#815 [16:35] * sugoi had a dentist apt
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#816 [16:36] <Ollie2000> lol
#817 [16:38] <Ollie2000> I do have the catalyst control panel but after installing that update I can't access it.
#818 [16:38] <sugoi> cannot? why? removed? fails to open?
#819 [16:38] <sugoi> note, update was intel, not ait
#820 [16:38] <sugoi> ati*
#821 [16:39] <Ollie2000> "Catalyst Control Center cannot be started." "There are cuttently no settings that cna be configured using Catalyst control Center."
#822 [16:39] <Ollie2000> currently*
#823 [16:40] <sugoi> odd, i would reinstall my ati driver
#824 [16:40] <sugoi> dedicated card drivers have to be installed after your intel cpu driver
#825 [16:40] <sugoi> it might be that you've invalidated the previous install, and should update/reinstall your gpu driver
#826 [16:40] <Ollie2000> oh.
#827 [16:40] <sugoi> that is a hunch, but worth doing nonetheless
#828 [16:41] <Ollie2000> Once I uninstall how do I re-install?
#829 [16:41] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: how's that game coming along, btw?
#830 [16:41] <sugoi> Ollie2000: i would just _install_, not necessary uninstall
#831 [16:42] <Grim_Reaper> sugoi not too bad. Slow as usual but recently we've been making more progress ^^
#832 [16:42] <sugoi> the installer would uninstall for you during install, but i would just let the installer do that
#833 [16:42] <sugoi> Ollie2000: go to ait's site, see if they have an auto detect tool like intel did
#834 [16:42] <Ollie2000> hmm, I have no idea how to look for it, I have no idea what it's called
#835 [16:43] <sugoi> ??> Ollie2000 win/dxdiag
#836 [16:43] <VoxelHead> Ollie2000: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#837 [16:43] <VoxelHead> Ollie2000: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#838 [16:45] <Ollie2000> http://pastebin.com/q7GJL11y
#839 [16:47] <sugoi> bah, dxdiag not showing your ati card
#840 [16:47] <sugoi> that's okay
#841 [16:47] <sugoi> gpu-z will
#842 [16:47] <sugoi> what erm, what model does gpu-z report you have?
#843 [16:48] <Ollie2000> I have Intel(r) HD Graphics 4000 and Standard VGA Graphics adapter
#844 [16:48] <Ollie2000> that's what it says now.
#845 [16:48] <sugoi> gpu-z ?
#846 [16:48] <Ollie2000> on that yes.
#847 [16:48] <sugoi> ...what ati card do you think you have?
#848 [16:48] <Ollie2000> Radeon
#849 [16:48] <Ollie2000> umm
#850 [16:48] * sugoi meanwhile looks for an autodesk tool from ati
#850 [16:49] <sugoi> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#851 [16:49] <Ollie2000> I can't find out anymore, it changed to Standard VGA
#852 [16:49] <sugoi> use that, from amd
#853 [16:49] <Ollie2000> I intalled it
#854 [16:49] <Ollie2000> installed
#855 [16:50] <Ollie2000> My control panel still doesn't work
#856 [16:50] <Ollie2000> the catalyst
#857 [16:50] <sugoi> um, run that tool
#858 [16:50] <sugoi> it autodetects what driver you need
#859 [16:50] <Ollie2000> I did.
#860 [16:50] <sugoi> it's not a driver itself
#861 [16:50] <sugoi> did it detect what card you have?
#862 [16:51] <Ollie2000> AMD Catalyst(TM) Mobility cannot be downloaded due to incompatible hardware/software on your computer.
#863 [16:52] <Ollie2000> I'm started to think my laptop is screwed, I just got it a week ago...
#864 [16:52] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: what is catalyst? Ollie2000 this is just a software issue
#865 [16:52] <sugoi> crap, wrong name, sorry
#866 [16:52] <sugoi> Ollie2000: *
#867 [16:53] <Ollie2000> okay.
#868 [16:53] <sugoi> Ollie2000: this is just software, your laptop is fine (most likely)
#869 [16:53] <Ollie2000> Okay.
#870 [16:54] <sugoi> Ollie2000: i would check your installed programs list
#871 [16:54] <sugoi> look for amd catalyst, uninstall it, and try to use that amd tool again
#872 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> sugoi I think his card is simply called ATI HD Graphics 4000
#873 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> Least for the most part =\
#874 [16:55] <sugoi> intel hd graphics, not ati
#875 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/hd-graphics/hd-graphics-developer.html
#876 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah sorry minus the ATI part lol
#877 [16:55] <sugoi> his laptop intel has an embedded hd gpu on it
#878 [16:55] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: np
#879 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#880 [16:56] <sugoi> but - being that it is alienware, i was expecting a dedicated card
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#882 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> But is he just having issues running mc?
#883 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> Same
#884 [16:56] <sugoi> well with the intel update, he said it was better
#885 [16:56] <sugoi> but...i just wanted it to use the 'real' card if it could
#886 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> I see
#887 [16:56] <trunkmonkey> whenever i changed my settings to full screen, it crapped out....i need help because i cant get to my minecraft
#888 [16:57] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme see if I can find something on google so long about forcing mc to use a different gpu
#889 [16:57] <sugoi> trunkmonkey: can you explain 'crapped out'
#890 [16:57] <trunkmonkey> it went to a black screen and freezes when i try to login
#891 [16:57] <sugoi> trunkmonkey: but either way...it's always worth going to your graphics card vendor's site and getting the latest driver
#892 [16:57] <sugoi> trunkmonkey: so it works, in full screen, until you try to log in?
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#894 [16:58] <trunkmonkey> like i press login and because i last had it in full screen, it is a full screen that is just black
#895 [16:58] <sugoi> trunkmonkey: ok, you can delete your settings file, essentially reset your settings
#896 [16:59] <sugoi> go to %appdata%/.minecraft
#897 [16:59] <trunkmonkey> see i dont know how to get there...
#898 [16:59] <sugoi> no problem, first, open your "Run" window, like this:
#899 [16:59] * sugoi forgets key
#899 [16:59] <sugoi> hold windows button, and press the 'r' key
#900 [17:00] <sugoi> a window will open up, bottom left
#901 [17:00] <sugoi> type in %apdata% and press enter
#902 [17:00] <sugoi> %appdata% **
#903 [17:00] <sugoi> missed a 'p' ^
#904 [17:00] <|Anthony|> since we're talking performance issues today, i might as well ask on behalf of a friend...
#905 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> Ok Ollie2000. This is not a definite solution. But worth a try. Theres a small chance if you change your laptop power settings to use your gpu all the time instead of the intel graphics you might be able to get minecraft to use the real card
#906 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know how to go to your power options?
#907 [17:01] <|Anthony|> he has this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230216 and gets ~17FPS
#908 [17:01] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: +1
#909 [17:01] <|Anthony|> would expect quite a bit more
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#911 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> And.. he vanished
#912 [17:02] <sugoi> |Anthony|: i bet it is using the intel hd graphics
#913 [17:02] <|Anthony|> lol...
#914 [17:02] <sugoi> this continues to bite us in the ass because java apps don't typically need your g pu
#915 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#916 [17:03] <|Anthony|> it's an amd apu with a discrete card. they work in sli
#917 [17:03] <sugoi> with nvidia, you can configure your pc to always use your gpu for 3d
#918 [17:03] <|Anthony|> no intel in sight
#919 [17:03] <sugoi> |Anthony|: s/apu/cpu/ ?
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#921 [17:03] <|Anthony|> no, an apu
#922 [17:03] <|Anthony|> it has a gpu on die
#923 [17:03] <|Anthony|> + a discrete gpu
#924 [17:03] <|Anthony|> working in sli
#925 [17:04] <sugoi> ah, amd lingo
#926 [17:04] <sugoi> but regardless
#927 [17:04] <|Anthony|> right
#928 [17:04] <sugoi> it is likely the same problem
#929 [17:04] <sugoi> i know intel and nvidia, that is all :)
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#931 [17:04] <|Anthony|> using the "latest" catalyst drivers
#932 [17:04] <|Anthony|> same
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#934 [17:04] <sugoi> the pc is saying "i have a java app!" and the cpu is saying, "i'll handle that!"
#935 [17:04] <trunkmonkey> I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#936 [17:05] <sugoi> trunkmonkey: ha, ok :)
#937 [17:05] <sugoi> |Anthony|: anywho, the workaround for the same type of problem on intel is to force gpu always
#938 [17:05] <sugoi> w/ nvidia, that can be done with the nvidia control panel
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#940 [17:05] <sugoi> the other option is via power management settings
#941 [17:06] <|Anthony|> the catalyst manager things has some similar settings...
#942 [17:06] <Scott> Mac does switchable graphics much better.
#943 [17:06] <|Anthony|> i've poked around and as far as i can tell, it's using the discrete gpu
#944 [17:06] <sugoi> |Anthony|: best way to confirm is with gpu
#945 [17:06] <|Anthony|> right.
#946 [17:07] <sugoi> |Anthony|: sorry, hit enter too soon, meant to say "with gpu-z"
#947 [17:07] <|Anthony|> lol honestly i wanted to install linux on his box to just see if it would perform better
#948 [17:07] <|Anthony|> kinda feel like it might but idk
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#950 [17:08] <TaZeTemper> do i need to port forward to have my friends join my server
#951 [17:08] <|Anthony|> of course
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#953 [17:08] <TaZeTemper> why
#954 [17:08] * Ollie2000 [Ollie2000@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
#955 [17:08] <sugoi> ../
#956 [17:08] <sugoi> haha, "..." * :)
#957 [17:09] <|Anthony|> is there a router between you and them?
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#959 [17:09] <TaZeTemper> ya
#960 [17:09] <|Anthony|> or *gasp* the whole interwebs
#961 [17:09] <|Anthony|> well that would be why
#962 [17:09] <TaZeTemper> ?
#963 [17:09] <sugoi> TaZeTemper: and you have an ip like 192.168.1.3?
#964 [17:09] <TaZeTemper> no
#965 [17:10] <sugoi> TaZeTemper: windows/
#966 [17:10] <sugoi> ?*
#967 [17:10] <TaZeTemper> ya
#968 [17:10] <sugoi> can you open your cmd window? (windows+r opens Run window, type cmd and press [enter])
#969 [17:10] <sugoi> then type ipconfig, look for " IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : "
#970 [17:10] <sugoi> what numbers do you see after that?
#971 [17:11] * sugoi hugs VoxelHead
#971 [17:11] <TaZeTemper> it only gives me IPv6
#972 [17:12] <sugoi> try ipconfig /all
#973 [17:12] <sugoi> and look closely
#974 [17:12] <sugoi> on windows, it'll have ipv4
#975 [17:13] <TaZeTemper> numbers are 10.0.1.1
#976 [17:13] <sugoi> excellent
#977 [17:13] <sugoi> ok, now go to ipchicken.com
#978 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: Catalyse is AMD's GPU driver bloatware suite
#979 [17:13] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: ok
#980 [17:13] <TaZeTemper> k
#981 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> catalyst, even
#982 [17:14] <sugoi> TaZeTemper: is the ip there: 10.0.1.1 ?
#983 [17:14] <TaZeTemper> ive got it from here thanks
#984 [17:14] <sugoi> haha
#985 [17:14] <sugoi> come on!
#986 [17:15] <sugoi> anywho, your router has that IP, and your PC has 10.0.1.1 -- if you want your friend to connect to your PC through your router, you'll have to ask your router to do that
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#988 [17:15] <sugoi> HA!
#989 [17:15] <sugoi> got it just before he left
#990 [17:15] <sugoi> .next
#991 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> heh
#992 [17:15] <sugoi> :)
#993 [17:16] * sugoi needs that ol' list of keys for voxelhead
#993 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ??>> sugoi index
#994 [17:17] <sugoi> thanks
#995 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
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#997 [17:18] <bouncyj> can some some help
#998 [17:18] <bouncyj> my minecraft is screwed up
#999 [17:18] <sugoi> bouncyj: yep, ask your question
#1000 [17:18] <bouncyj> it goes like super fast
#1001 [17:18] <sugoi> o_O
#1002 [17:18] <bouncyj> not the like good way but super fast i cant see what im doing
#1003 [17:19] <bouncyj> possible way you can see>?
#1004 [17:19] <bouncyj> anyone?
#1005 [17:20] <sugoi> bouncyj: try to describe it, also, afk2p
#1006 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> So.. are you saying the game runs as if in insane speed mode?
#1007 [17:20] <bouncyj> idk
#1008 [17:20] <bouncyj> when i break 1 block
#1009 [17:20] <bouncyj> tir breaks like 8
#1010 [17:20] <bouncyj> and when i walk it goes super fast walking
#1011 [17:20] <bouncyj> faster than the potion
#1012 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> Is it as if the game is running in fastforward?
#1013 [17:20] <bouncyj> yes!
#1014 [17:20] <bouncyj> thats what it is
#1015 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> Do you have any mods installed?
#1016 [17:20] <bouncyj> And i cant do anything
#1017 [17:20] <bouncyj> yes
#1018 [17:20] <bouncyj> i deleted them too
#1019 [17:21] <bouncyj> and nothing worked
#1020 [17:21] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried to uninstall and reinstall (backing up your saves of course)
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#1022 [17:21] <bouncyj> yes
#1023 [17:21] <bouncyj> ive deleted minecraft and everything
#1024 [17:22] <bouncyj> Nothing is working. :(
#1025 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> Installed any new drivers/graphics card or anything recently?
#1026 [17:22] <bouncyj> nope
#1027 [17:22] <bouncyj> tthis si brand new computer
#1028 [17:22] <bouncyj> got it 7 days ago
#1029 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. So it's always happened?
#1030 [17:22] <bouncyj> and yesterday it was working perfectly
#1031 [17:23] <bouncyj> no its today
#1032 [17:23] <bouncyj> screwed up
#1033 [17:23] <bouncyj> fast forward
#1034 [17:23] <bouncyj> very fast'
#1035 [17:23] <Grim_Reaper> Ok have you tried.. putting vsync on?
#1036 [17:23] <bouncyj> how do i do that
#1037 [17:23] <Grim_Reaper> In the game video settings
#1038 [17:23] <Grim_Reaper> You have the option to enable vsync
#1039 [17:23] <bouncyj> theres no option
#1040 [17:24] <Grim_Reaper> Should be. Look at the bottom right
#1041 [17:24] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/6AsmN.png
#1042 [17:25] <bouncyj> no i dont have that
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#1044 [17:25] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure o-O? That option is on the latest minecraft
#1045 [17:25] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know what graphics card you have then?
#1046 [17:25] <bouncyj> iintelcore5
#1047 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> umm. Ok can you do the following please
#1048 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/dxdiag
#1049 [17:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1050 [17:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1051 [17:28] <sugoi> bouncyj: if no mods, also use force update. in the mc launcher, next to 'login' click 'options', then force update
#1052 [17:28] <bouncyj> http://pastebin.com/keB7bqhc
#1053 [17:28] <bouncyj> there
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#1055 [17:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ok bouncyj please right click on your desktop and go to the nvidia control panel
#1056 [17:29] <Tadbo123> Hello
#1057 [17:29] <bouncyj> k
#1058 [17:29] <bouncyj> done
#1059 [17:30] <Grim_Reaper> Ok click on the area that says "Manage 3D settings"
#1060 [17:30] <bouncyj> done
#1061 [17:30] <Grim_Reaper> After that, click on the area tab that says "Program Settings" See if Minecraft is in that list. If it is not. Please click "Add" and select the Minecraft.exe file whereever it is on your computer
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#1063 [17:31] <bouncyj> Done
#1064 [17:31] <bouncyj> do i hit apply?
#1065 [17:31] <Tadbo123> I have a question about a minecraft server.
#1066 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> After that, in the settings on that window. Scroll down to the bottom and look for "vertical sync" Click the setting area and choose "On" or "force on"
#1067 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> After that please click apply
#1068 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> Then try running minecraft again and see if that fixes it
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#1070 [17:32] <bouncyj> k
#1071 [17:32] <bouncyj> no
#1072 [17:32] <bouncyj> :(
#1073 [17:32] <bouncyj> this sucks
#1074 [17:33] <Grim_Reaper> Ok have you tried the force update suggestion from sugoi?
#1075 [17:33] <bouncyj> yes
#1076 [17:33] <Grim_Reaper> Ok please give me a min
#1077 [17:34] <bouncyj> k
#1078 [17:34] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm.
#1079 [17:34] <Grim_Reaper> Just trying to think
#1080 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> Did you by any chance.. place anything into your word like a redstone calculator at all?
#1081 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> I know it's weird question
#1082 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> bouncyj win/profile
#1083 [17:35] <VoxelHead> bouncyj: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1084 [17:35] <VoxelHead> bouncyj: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1085 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti apparently it was working fine the other day
#1086 [17:36] <bouncyj> k let me try new user
#1087 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: something changed between then and now
#1088 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1089 [17:36] <bouncyj> brb going on different user
#1090 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Alrighty
#1091 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti true true I guess
#1092 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti true true I guess
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#1096 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> .window 22
#1097 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> er
#1098 [17:41] <Grim_Reaper> .
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#1100 [17:42] <bouncyj\> it the same
#1101 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> ok
#1102 [17:43] <bouncyj\> didnt work :(
#1103 [17:43] <bouncyj\> it was fine yesterday
#1104 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> Try syncing your clock bouncyj\
#1105 [17:43] <bouncyj\> ?
#1106 [17:43] <bouncyj\> What do you mean
#1107 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> At the bottom right. Where you clock is on your pc
#1108 [17:43] <bouncyj\> Yes
#1109 [17:43] <Grim_Reaper> Left click it > Click change date and time settings
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#1111 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> bouncyj\: are you overclocking your CPU or GPU at all?
#1112 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> Then Click Internet time. Click change settings. Click Update Now
#1113 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> See if that MIGHT possibly fix it
#1114 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> Also yeah did you overclock?
#1115 [17:44] <bouncyj\> overlock
#1116 [17:44] <bouncyj\> i did what u said raper
#1117 [17:44] <bouncyj\> *reaper
#1118 [17:44] <bouncyj\> sorry
#1119 [17:44] <sugoi> haah
#1120 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> It's ok :p
#1121 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Ok theres a chance your game might be running like that due to overclocking
#1122 [17:45] <bouncyj\> whats overclock?
#1123 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> [00:44] <@Grim_Reaper> Also yeah did you overclock?
#1124 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> [00:44] <bouncyj\> overlock
#1125 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Did you overclock anything?
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#1127 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Also try see if Minecraft runs fine now
#1128 [17:46] <bouncyj\> NO :(
#1129 [17:46] <bouncyj\> nothing works
#1130 [17:46] <bouncyj\> :((((((
#1131 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> Gah
#1132 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> There must be something you did
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#1134 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> Ok so when you installed minecraft
#1135 [17:46] <bouncyj\> yes
#1136 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> You deleted the entire .minecraft folder right?
#1137 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> I mean uninstalled*
#1138 [17:47] <bouncyj\> yes
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#1140 [17:47] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm..
#1141 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> when's the last time you rebooted your computer?
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#1143 [17:48] <worldmc> What's the problem in short ?
#1144 [17:48] <bouncyj\> my minecraft is fastforward
#1145 [17:48] <Grim_Reaper> The problem is his game is running so fast as if it's in fastforward
#1146 [17:48] <bouncyj\> reallly fast
#1147 [17:48] <oldtopman> heh
#1148 [17:48] <oldtopman> dt failure.
#1149 [17:48] * oldtopman puts money on a java failure
#1149 [17:48] <bouncyj\> so only option is to return computer?
#1150 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> reinstalling Java may be a good idea
#1151 [17:48] <worldmc> You got a mod that allows you to fast forward stuff ?
#1152 [17:49] <bouncyj\> no
#1153 [17:49] <bouncyj\> no mods
#1154 [17:49] <Grim_Reaper> worldmc he removed all mods he had
#1155 [17:49] <Grim_Reaper> Only other thing I can suggest
#1156 [17:49] <worldmc> K
#1157 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> worldmc: the game's frame limiter isn't working
#1158 [17:49] <Grim_Reaper> Is to try reinstall Java
#1159 [17:49] <bouncyj\> i didbefore i contaced
#1160 [17:49] <bouncyj\> i installed 64bit
#1161 [17:49] <bouncyj\> and done eeverything
#1162 [17:49] <worldmc> On a 32 bit pc ?
#1163 [17:49] <bouncyj\> no
#1164 [17:49] <bouncyj\> its 64bit
#1165 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> what version of Java?
#1166 [17:50] <worldmc> K just making sure lol
#1167 [17:50] <bouncyj\> how do i check
#1168 [17:50] <bouncyj\> version
#1169 [17:50] <Grim_Reaper> Install both 32bit and 64bit
#1170 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/version
#1171 [17:50] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1172 [17:50] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1173 [17:50] <bouncyj\> 7.0.90.5
#1174 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.7
#1175 [17:51] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1176 [17:52] <bouncyj\> is this ink64 bit
#1177 [17:52] <bouncyj\> Is the link 64 bit
#1178 [17:52] <worldmc> Who is btw the owner of voxelhead ?
#1179 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> bouncyj\: both are available from that location
#1180 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> worldmc: that would be me
#1181 [17:53] <bouncyj\> do i uninstall java
#1182 [17:53] <worldmc> What is it coded in ?
#1183 [17:53] <bouncyj\> 1.7?
#1184 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> worldmc: C and TCL
#1185 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> bouncyj\: it would probably be a good idea.
#1186 [17:53] <worldmc> K
#1187 [17:54] <bouncyj\> i hate new computers
#1188 [17:55] <bouncyj\> dont know where to go
#1189 [17:55] <sugoi> heh
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#1191 [17:56] <Blueballz83> Does anybody know how to fix a "connection timed out" problem?
#1192 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Blueballz83: is there any pattern to the occurrence of this problem?
#1193 [17:57] <bouncyj\> 1.6 is downloading
#1194 [17:57] <Blueballz83> No it just happened now
#1195 [17:57] <bouncyj\> DopeGhoti Do you have the Minecon Cape?
#1196 [17:57] <Blueballz83> No
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#1198 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> I have not been to any minecraft conventions.
#1199 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> so no
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#1201 [17:57] <bouncyj\> are they ever going to Florida
#1202 [17:57] <sugoi> bouncyj\: why not download 1.7?
#1203 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> Blueballz83: then it could be anything from server problems to network problems. without more information, it is hard to say.
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#1205 [17:58] <bouncyj\> sugio
#1206 [17:58] <bouncyj\> i had 1.7
#1207 [17:58] <worldmc> He had that
#1208 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> sugoi java/1.7
#1209 [17:58] <VoxelHead> sugoi: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1210 [17:58] * DopeGhoti points up
#1210 [17:58] <sugoi> psh, old news
#1211 [17:58] <Blueballz83> Its happened about 2 times today
#1212 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: 'old news' would be 'olds', and Olds isn't making cars anymore.
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#1214 [17:59] <bouncyj\> 1.6 doesent work
#1215 [17:59] <worldmc> Blueballz connection timeout can happen at any random point. Good example are the ping timeout here on the irc
#1216 [17:59] <bouncyj\> :/
#1217 [17:59] <bouncyj\> DopeGhoti: nothing works im screwed ;(
#1218 [18:00] <worldmc> Blueballz is the server that you are trying to connect to online ?
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#1220 [18:01] <worldmc> See ya guys
#1221 [18:01] <sugoi> bouncyj\: if it worked before, it is possible to fix
#1222 [18:01] * worldmc is now known as worldmc|off
#1223 [18:02] <bouncyj\> i got it!
#1224 [18:02] <sugoi> ..
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#1226 [18:02] <bouncyj\> how do i restore my whole computer to yesterday
#1227 [18:02] <sugoi> did you install something over the last day?
#1228 [18:03] <bouncyj\> no
#1229 [18:03] <sugoi> then what would that solve?
#1230 [18:03] <bouncyj\> restore?
#1231 [18:03] <sugoi> but, system restore - can be used to undo update/driver installs
#1232 [18:03] <bouncyj\> awh :(
#1233 [18:04] <bouncyj\> so i return my computer i guess
#1234 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> they seems drastic
#1235 [18:04] <sugoi> :)
#1236 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> that, even
#1237 [18:04] <sugoi> bouncyj\: you could just keep removing and reintalling things
#1238 [18:04] <sugoi> like, remove graphics drivers, install again
#1239 [18:04] <bouncyj\> idk\
#1240 [18:05] <sugoi> you could even reinstall the entire os
#1241 [18:05] <bouncyj\> ill just return it
#1242 [18:06] <sugoi> store, "what's the problem with it", bouncyj, "it runs games too fast", ...
#1243 [18:06] <sugoi> :)
#1244 [18:06] <bouncyj\> lol
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#1246 [18:06] <bouncyj\> I'll say its not the right one
#1247 [18:06] <bouncyj\> I'll say its not the right one Alienware
#1248 [18:06] <bouncyj\> wtf
#1249 [18:06] <bouncyj\> I'll get Alienware
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#1253 [18:09] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm
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#1255 [18:18] <NinjaKirby> Are Alienware the "Mac" of Computers; pretty good machines, but insanely priced.
#1256 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> s/Computers/Windows-based &/
#1257 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Macs are computers too, NinjaKirby
#1258 [18:19] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: no, alienware are actuallygood machines
#1259 [18:19] <NinjaKirby> Yeah sorry, I can't believe I even said that, all things considered
#1260 [18:19] <NinjaKirby> I know what I meant, at any rate
#1261 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> Is Voxelhead yankin' my chain.
#1262 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> regulars ehre may get some messages with instructions from Vox
#1263 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> please heed them (:
#1264 [18:22] <NinjaKirby> Enlittening
#1265 [18:22] <NinjaKirby> Enlittening
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#1268 [18:23] <oldtopman> There's only one problem DopeGhoti.
#1269 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> yes?
#1270 [18:23] <oldtopman> nvm, got AuBot's notice confused :P
#1271 [18:34] * VoxelHead thanks you for your collective indulgence
#1271 [18:35] <NinjaKirby> Never a trouble VoxelHead, I know your the brains of this operation mate.
#1272 [18:36] <VoxelHead> (:
#1273 [18:37] <oldtopman> you*re*
#1274 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> He's gonna be so lonely in here on Xmas day.
#1275 [18:37] <NinjaKirby> God damnit, thank you oldtopman, usually I get it right, but the way I vocalise it IRL makes me balls it up sometimes.
#1276 [18:37] <VoxelHead> I aim to please
#1277 [18:38] <oldtopman> ".sitedown Most of the support is enjoying christmas day, so the wait could be a while!"
#1278 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> heh
#1279 [18:38] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: Hmm, maybe it's an accent thing. That would be weird, no?
#1280 [18:39] <NinjaKirby> Mebbe, an East Anglian Dialect, heh, say wot
#1281 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> blimey.
#1282 [18:40] * oldtopman lives in western US
#1282 [18:40] <oldtopman> Livin in the colorado!
#1283 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Land of the spliff, and home of the head shop?
#1284 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> right, so: quick primer on what I just set up for those that missed the test the other day
#1285 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> if for some reason things get so madhouse-ish in here that we need to start taking people one at a time, anyone whom I've just set up can say ".on" to turn on moderated queue mode
#1286 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> this will set the channel +m, and put people who join the channel in a queue
#1287 [18:42] * Grim_Reaper is tempted to type it now
#1287 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> any helper can say '.next' to voice the next person in line, and '.helped <nick>' when that person has been, well, helped
#1288 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> '.off' will set things back to normal.
#1289 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> Nice.
#1290 [18:43] <oldtopman> This is going to sound elitist (because it is), but don't we want to restrict access of .on/.off to a higher group, like the ops?
#1291 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: it is
#1292 [18:43] <oldtopman> (much like .site/up/down)
#1293 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> only ops/admins can turn it on and off
#1294 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> helpers cannot
#1295 [18:43] <oldtopman> oic
#1296 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> helpers only get access to .next and .helped, and those commands aren't even there when queue mode is not enabled
#1297 [18:43] <Grim_Reaper> Can I test this quick DopeGhoti?
#1298 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> if you like
#1299 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> K
#1300 [18:44] * Grim_Reaper gets mibbit open
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#1301 [18:44] <clueless> beat you to it, Grim_Reaper
#1302 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> whoa who dat
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#1304 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> .on
#1305 [18:44] <Boreeas> :D
#1306 [18:44] <oldtopman> .on
#1307 [18:44] <Grim_Reaper> Herrm
#1308 [18:44] <oldtopman> D:
#1309 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#1310 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> .on
#1311 [18:45] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: ees broked D:
#1312 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1313 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> okay, only _admins_
#1314 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> .next
#1315 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> 01:45] -VoxelHead- You are not authenticated.
#1316 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> wat
#1317 [18:45] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: So, you? :P
#1318 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> .next
#1319 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: and a scant few others
#1320 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: msg vox auth yourpasswd
#1321 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> .next Helpmahplz
#1322 [18:45] <Grim_Reaper> I did
#1323 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1324 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> okay
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#1327 [18:46] <Grim_Reaper> Though why won't it voice Helpmahplz
#1328 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Helpmahplz: isn't in line
#1329 [18:46] <clueless> oh, right, Vox knows me from this host
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#1331 [18:46] <Grim_Reaper> How can he be in line though?
#1332 [18:46] <Boreeas> So, uhh, how do we voice people now?
#1333 [18:47] <Boreeas> Or whatever the plan is
#1334 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: have Helpmahplz rejoin the channel please
#1335 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: have Helpmahplz rejoin the channel please
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#1338 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> .list
#1339 [18:47] <Grim_Reaper> .list
#1340 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> .next
#1341 [18:47] <VoxelHead> Helpmahplz: please ask your question now. You will be helped by DopeGhoti
#1342 [18:47] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
#1343 [18:47] <Helpmahplz> Thanks
#1344 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> hay all set here
#1345 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> .helped Helpmahplz
#1346 [18:47] <Helpmahplz> I need halp
#1347 [18:47] <Grim_Reaper> .off
#1348 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> .off
#1349 [18:47] <oldtopman> .off
#1350 [18:47] <Boreeas> Neat
#1351 [18:47] * oldtopman pretends he did it
#1351 [18:47] <Grim_Reaper> Mk well it seems only you have access to .on and .off lol
#1352 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> I'll fix that
#1353 [18:48] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1354 [18:48] <Boreeas> If people quit, are they removed from the queue?
#1355 [18:48] <Grim_Reaper> [01:48] -VoxelHead- You have been added as a(n) Admin of #minecrafthelp to the bot.
#1356 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> yes
#1357 [18:48] <Grim_Reaper> Fancy
#1358 [18:48] <oldtopman> .on
#1359 [18:48] <oldtopman> .on
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#1361 [18:48] <oldtopman> .off
#1362 [18:48] <oldtopman> notbad.jpg
#1363 [18:48] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1364 [18:49] <Grim_Reaper> Now with these new powers VoxelHead can take over the world and make DopeGhoti his slave
#1365 [18:49] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1366 [18:49] <oldtopman> Well, since we're having an informal helper-meeting now, I have a question for you all.
#1367 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> at present, that channel admins are: myself, Grim_Reaper, GreyVulpine, oldtopman
#1368 [18:49] <oldtopman> What's up with mods?
#1369 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> still unsupported as they're too unpredictable
#1370 [18:49] <oldtopman> People come here, wait ten minutes for help with tekkit, I give them the mods factoid, then someone spends a half hour helping them.
#1371 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> removing mods is still an important troubleshooting step
#1372 [18:50] <VoxelHead> *cracks whip*
#1373 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> if someone want to help someone with mods here, that's okay as long as it's not interfering with in-scope assistance
#1374 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti Im guessing.. with the mod api once it's released
#1375 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> if it is interefering, it's best taken to another channel or queries
#1376 [18:50] <Grim_Reaper> that we'll be more so.. to a point.. providing help?
#1377 [18:51] <oldtopman> I mean, I don't want to scare away people that can be helped here, but I don't really care to help people with conflicting mods.
#1378 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> if and when the mod API is released, then only API mods will be supported, and I'd still be inclined to remove them as a troubleshooting measure
#1379 [18:51] <Grim_Reaper> ^feel the same way
#1380 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> IMO, if mod assistance in here is interfering with in-scope support, it's valid to shoo it off to another location
#1381 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> (e. g. channel or query)
#1382 [18:51] * Grim_Reaper nods
#1382 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> I doubt we'll ever see a proper mod API if the Bukkit team has anything to do with it as I hear they do
#1383 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> jsut based on the 500 message long argument about one absurd commit I got linked to a while back
#1384 [18:53] * Grim_Reaper whistles
#1384 [18:53] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Hmm?
#1385 [18:53] <oldtopman> What are you talking about?
#1386 [18:53] <Dinnerbone> I HAVE ALL THE POWER
#1387 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> tl;dr: "We don't support this thing, so we're adding code to actively prevent this thing and make people who use it have to do more work"
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#1389 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> where in this case, 'this thing' is calls to net.minecraft.server livs
#1390 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> libs even
#1391 [18:54] <Dinnerbone> DopeGhoti, I made bukkit and I love you too
#1392 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> morning, Dinnerbone
#1393 [18:54] <Dinnerbone> (But I have nothing to do with the current development, and I have no clue what that versioning change is)
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#1395 [18:54] <Grim_Reaper> I love Dinnerbone.. Non sexually
#1396 [18:55] <LikeHeyItsMark> I keep getting a "bad login" area on every server I try to connect to. Anyone know what's up?
#1397 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Dinnerbone: did you seem my question in #poorlykeptsecret the other day?
#1398 [18:55] <LikeHeyItsMark> *error not area
#1399 [18:55] <Grim_Reaper> Has this always been this way LikeHeyItsMark?
#1400 [18:55] <Lyle> Does anybody know how to fix a LAN world "connection timed out" problem?
#1401 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> LikeHeyItsMark: "bad login" mans you need to type your login credentials correctly.
#1402 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> Lyle: get a better hub/switch/router?
#1403 [18:55] <LikeHeyItsMark> No, in the past few minutes. No one else seems to have the problem currently, though.
#1404 [18:55] <Dinnerbone> Not that I recall, DopeGhoti
#1405 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> may I query you?
#1406 [18:56] <Dinnerbone> LikeHeyItsMark, when joining a server or logging into the client?
#1407 [18:56] <Lyle> Me?
#1408 [18:56] <LikeHeyItsMark> I have logged out and re-logged in many times. I'm using "in-browser" because my launcher isn't working either.
#1409 [18:56] <LikeHeyItsMark> Dinnerbone, when joining a server.
#1410 [18:57] <Lyle> Annybody?
#1411 [18:57] <Grim_Reaper> LikeHeyItsMark are you behind any firewalls? Or an antivirus?
#1412 [18:57] <LikeHeyItsMark> Yes, I use Norton, but it has never interfered before.
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#1416 [18:58] <Grim_Reaper> Well done VoxelHead
#1417 [18:59] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways. LikeHeyItsMark. Did you do anything recently when it started?
#1418 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Lyle: is there any pattern to the behavior you're seeing?
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#1420 [19:00] <LikeHeyItsMark> Not anything unusual. I DID delete my .minecraft, though.
#1421 [19:00] <Lyle> Yeah its happened a few times
#1422 [19:00] <LikeHeyItsMark> The game just would not work properly, but seemed fine after I did.
#1423 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Lyle: in this LAN game, are the computers connected wirelessly? Wired to the same hub/switch/router?
#1424 [19:01] <Lyle> yes
#1425 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> which of the above?
#1426 [19:01] <Lyle> Wirelessly
#1427 [19:02] <Grim_Reaper> LikeHeyItsMark could you try seeing if you're able to connect to a lan server of yours on your pc
#1428 [19:02] <LikeHeyItsMark> Ah, I'll try, yes.
#1429 [19:02] <Lyle> ok
#1430 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Lyle: wireless connections are notoriously unreliable. Use a Wifi analyser to check signal strength and see whether you're on the same channel as a bunch of other wifi sources
#1431 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> if so, pick a lesser-used channel
#1432 [19:04] <LikeHeyItsMark> I was able to join a LAN server of mine.
#1433 [19:04] <LikeHeyItsMark> Yet, still, servers are not functioning properly.
#1434 [19:05] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#1435 [19:05] <Grim_Reaper> How many servers have you tried connecting to?
#1436 [19:05] <LikeHeyItsMark> Five or six.
#1437 [19:06] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm ok
#1438 [19:06] <Grim_Reaper> So lets see. You've uninstalled + reinstalled. I take it you aren't using any mdos?
#1439 [19:06] <Grim_Reaper> mods*
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#1441 [19:07] <LikeHeyItsMark> Not currently.
#1442 [19:08] <Grim_Reaper> ok could you try restarting your internet (router/modem) try connecting again and see
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#1445 [19:09] <LikeHeyItsMark> Yes, one moment.
#1446 [19:09] <Grim_Reaper> Just give me a shout when you'e back as you'll dc from here
#1447 [19:09] <Grim_Reaper> you're*
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#1453 [19:15] <LikeHeyItsMark> Okay, back.
#1454 [19:16] <LikeHeyItsMark> Dunno if my last message was sent, but no luck with restarting my router. I still get the error.
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#1456 [19:18] <LikeHeyItsMark> After many log-in attempts, I get "end of stream" but that just might be from too many attempts.
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#1458 [19:19] <Buff> when i try to use Tekkit it says it wont authinacate the account but when i used a friends account it worked just fine whats going on here?
#1459 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> Buff mods
#1460 [19:20] <VoxelHead> Buff: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1461 [19:20] <VoxelHead> Buff: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1462 [19:21] <LikeHeyItsMark> This is getting very aggravating.
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#1464 [19:21] <LikeHeyItsMark> I just don't know what to do.
#1465 [19:22] <Grim_Reaper> LikeHeyItsMark try disabling any anti viruses /firewall of yours
#1466 [19:22] <Grim_Reaper> See if that works
#1467 [19:23] <LikeHeyItsMark> Wouldn't that leave me open, though? I don't want viruses (or perhaps I can only get them whilst downloading, I dunno).
#1468 [19:23] <Grim_Reaper> No no Im not saying keep them disabled
#1469 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> LikeHeyItsMark: if you're behind a router, you're safe from most of the nastiness out there
#1470 [19:23] <Grim_Reaper> Just try disabling them and seeing if you're able to connect after
#1471 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> other than what you might invite in
#1472 [19:24] <LikeHeyItsMark> Oh, okay. Hm...one moment.
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#1474 [19:26] <LikeHeyItsMark> No luck.
#1475 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> LikeHeyItsMark win/profile
#1476 [19:26] <VoxelHead> LikeHeyItsMark: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1477 [19:26] <VoxelHead> LikeHeyItsMark: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1478 [19:27] <Grim_Reaper> Also be sure to renable your anti virus and firewall
#1479 [19:27] <LikeHeyItsMark> Yet, if that was the case, would it have worked earlier for the three weeks I owned it? @Vox
#1480 [19:28] <oldtopman> LikeHeyItsMark: Maybe, maybe not. There's only one way to know.
#1481 [19:28] <LikeHeyItsMark> Alright. Back in a moment.
#1482 [19:28] <Grim_Reaper> The only other thing I can think of is there could possibly be a login issue with Mojang. But I last heard it was fixed and nobody else seems to be having issues
#1483 [19:29] <oldtopman> !login
#1484 [19:29] * oldtopman needs to update his account to mojang
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#1485 [19:29] <Grim_Reaper> *in gandalf voice* "You shall not migrate!"
#1486 [19:29] <oldtopman> But nooooo, I had to get the game registered with god knows what email. Wasn't mine, I got it with a friend's card at work >:U
#1487 [19:29] <Grim_Reaper> So Dinnerbone. How goes preparing for Christmas :o
#1488 [19:30] <Grim_Reaper> Poor oldtopman
#1489 [19:30] <Slong_Kong> im trying to play the demo to see if i want to buy this game and its saying it crashed ans shot
#1490 [19:30] <Slong_Kong> shit*
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#1492 [19:31] <Inheritor> hi
#1493 [19:31] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti might want to put a word filter on that word
#1494 [19:31] <Grim_Reaper> Hi Inheritor
#1495 [19:31] <Grim_Reaper> Slong_Kong is there any error message?
#1496 [19:31] <oldtopman> Grim_Reaper: That's Kealper's bot with the word-filtering.
#1497 [19:31] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right
#1498 [19:32] <Inheritor> i recently bought minecraft online for my brother but when we try to play online, it says searching for lan networks and that msg never goes away
#1499 [19:32] <Inheritor> am i doing something wrong?
#1500 [19:32] <Slong_Kong> yeah an error message
#1501 [19:32] <Grim_Reaper> Inheritor thats normal
#1502 [19:32] <Grim_Reaper> The game will search for lan networks
#1503 [19:32] <Grim_Reaper> Slong can you please pastebin the error
#1504 [19:32] <Grim_Reaper> ?? pastebin
#1505 [19:32] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1506 [19:32] <Inheritor> it can last for hours?
#1507 [19:32] <Grim_Reaper> Inheritor if you both want to play online. You need to choose what server you wish to join
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#1509 [19:32] <Inheritor> where do I get that from?
#1510 [19:32] <Slong_Kong> should i open that on a diff tabb
#1511 [19:33] <Grim_Reaper> You can find a list of servers on minecraftforums.net
#1512 [19:33] <Grim_Reaper> Slong_Kong sure
#1513 [19:33] <Inheritor> ok, so i click "add server" and type in the "Server Name" and "Server Address"?
#1514 [19:33] <Oxymoron> I've realized that Minecraft PE no longer allows you to use fancy graphics. I don't play the PE much nowadays. Just wondering.
#1515 [19:33] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1516 [19:33] <Grim_Reaper> You'll need to find a server first though
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#1518 [19:34] <Inheritor> thanks a lot Grim_Reaper
#1519 [19:34] <Grim_Reaper> No problem
#1520 [19:34] <Inheritor> take care
#1521 [19:34] <morgancentral> i crash when ever i want to play the map
#1522 [19:34] <Grim_Reaper> Oxymoron we don't really know much about PE
#1523 [19:34] <Grim_Reaper> morgancentral is this ONLY on the one map
#1524 [19:34] <Grim_Reaper> Or every one?
#1525 [19:34] <morgancentral> and when its like 3 mins later i crash evey time
#1526 [19:34] <morgancentral> its all of the survival maps
#1527 [19:34] <Grim_Reaper> Is there an error?
#1528 [19:35] <morgancentral> yeah
#1529 [19:35] * JTR|Away is now known as JTR
#1530 [19:35] <Grim_Reaper> Could you please pastebin the error
#1531 [19:35] <Grim_Reaper> ?? pastebin
#1532 [19:35] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1533 [19:35] <morgancentral> ok
#1534 [19:36] <Slong_Kong> will their be a problem if im on a mac?
#1535 [19:36] <morgancentral> http://pastebin.com/Z4T7MkrM thats all what it gave me everytime
#1536 [19:37] <Grim_Reaper> Minecraft works on macs
#1537 [19:37] * Contex is now known as Contex|Away
#1538 [19:37] <Grim_Reaper> Are you using any mods morgancentral?
#1539 [19:38] <morgancentral> yeah but i have a non modded client when i play survival maps
#1540 [19:38] <morgancentral> like the walls
#1541 [19:38] <Grim_Reaper> I think your error might be related to your mod
#1542 [19:38] <morgancentral> it happenes no mods
#1543 [19:38] <Grim_Reaper> ok
#1544 [19:39] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme see if maybe DopeGhoti knows
#1545 [19:39] <morgancentral> ok
#1546 [19:40] <Grim_Reaper> morgancentral try the following
#1547 [19:40] <morgancentral> ok
#1548 [19:40] <Grim_Reaper> Open the launcher and click options then click on "force update"
#1549 [19:40] <Grim_Reaper> This might remove any mods if there are traces
#1550 [19:40] <morgancentral> ok
#1551 [19:40] <Grim_Reaper> See if that fixes your issue
#1552 [19:42] <morgancentral> i crashed the same thing just opening up a map
#1553 [19:42] <Grim_Reaper> Try create a new world
#1554 [19:42] <morgancentral> ok
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#1556 [19:42] <morgancentral> brb
#1557 [19:43] <Grim_Reaper> If the new world does not crash. Chances are the other worlds either are corrupt, or they have something mod related in them
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#1559 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> most likely the latter
#1560 [19:43] <morgancentral> its has 1 fps and it and use to have 90 fps
#1561 [19:43] <LikeHeyItsMark> Still had no luck with a different user account.
#1562 [19:44] <morgancentral> i got to eat so brb
#1563 [19:44] <Grim_Reaper> LikeHeyItsMark the only other thing I can suggest is wait a day or so and see if you're then able to connect
#1564 [19:44] <Grim_Reaper> Im not sure what else to suggest sadly
#1565 [19:44] <LikeHeyItsMark> I suppose.
#1566 [19:44] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry =\
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#1568 [19:45] <LikeHeyItsMark> I'm fairly sure it has nothing to do with my system, though.
#1569 [19:45] <Grim_Reaper> Doesn't seem like it so yeah
#1570 [19:45] <morgancentral> i have 4 gb of ram and just building and then it will say out of ram even though its not even using it all
#1571 [19:45] <Grim_Reaper> But can't be 100% sure
#1572 [19:46] <LikeHeyItsMark> Oh, well. Back to YouTube.
#1573 [19:46] <LikeHeyItsMark> Thanks for your help, though.
#1574 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> morgancentral
#1575 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> Try this
#1576 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/client/moreram
#1577 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/client/moreram
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#1579 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> damnit VoxelHead T_T
#1580 [19:46] <morgancentral> in client?
#1581 [19:46] <morgancentral> of cmd?
#1582 [19:46] <Grim_Reaper> Give me a sec
#1583 [19:47] <morgancentral> ok
#1584 [19:47] <Grim_Reaper> ??> morgancentral win/client/moreram
#1585 [19:47] <VoxelHead> morgancentral: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1586 [19:47] <VoxelHead> morgancentral: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
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#1589 [19:49] <morgancentral> it worked thanks :)
#1590 [19:49] <Slong_Kong> um... it wont let me copy it off the (minecratf.net/demo page -_-
#1591 [19:50] <Grim_Reaper> Glad to hear morgancentral :3
#1592 [19:50] <morgancentral> <3
#1593 [19:50] <morgancentral> :3
#1594 [19:50] <Grim_Reaper> Slong if it's not too long of an error. Maybe type it out?
#1595 [19:50] <Grim_Reaper> Slong if it's not too long of an error. Maybe type it out?
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#1598 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Slong_Kong: copy what, exactly?
#1599 [19:52] <LikeHeyItsMark> AHA! Fixed! Yes! I just had to update my password for no reason. xD
#1600 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> LikeHeyItsMark: interesting
#1601 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> Very
#1602 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> LikeHeyItsMark: glad it's up and running though!
#1603 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#1604 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks for letting us know how you fixed it LikeHeyItsMark
#1605 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> thats a very odd thing though
#1606 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> Since you could login to your account fine. But not mp
#1607 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> Ah well
#1608 [19:52] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1609 [19:52] <LikeHeyItsMark> I figured I should in case anyone else were to ever come here with the same error.
#1610 [19:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#1611 [19:53] <LikeHeyItsMark> I found it strange, too.
#1612 [19:53] <LikeHeyItsMark> You guys were helpful too, though, so thanks! :D I'm off to play Minecraft.
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#1614 [19:53] <Grim_Reaper> Enjoy :3
#1615 [19:53] <Slong_Kong> where do i start and finish?
#1616 [19:54] <Grim_Reaper> try the first 3 lines
#1617 [19:54] <Slong_Kong> ok
#1618 [20:02] <Slong_Kong> i give up
#1619 [20:03] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|away
#1620 [20:03] <Grim_Reaper> ?
#1621 [20:04] * Me4502|away is now known as Me4502
#1622 [20:06] <Slong_Kong> i dont know what to type , you guys should put some thing on their in the future that high lights what you need to report .
#1623 [20:07] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe take a screenshot?
#1624 [20:09] <Slong_Kong> and then what ?
#1625 [20:10] * BranicYeti is now known as Yeti|InHiding
#1626 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> find a way to share it with us?
#1627 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> maybe upload it to a site lik www.imgur.con and give us the uel?
#1628 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> er, URL
#1629 [20:12] <Slong_Kong> alright hold on
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#1632 [20:15] <callerrkiller> hello
#1633 [20:16] <callerrkiller> I got a question about the black screen that pops up after I login and I can not play
#1634 [20:16] <callerrkiller> any one
#1635 [20:17] <callerrkiller> ?
#1636 [20:18] <callerrkiller> how can ı fix the black screen that comes after I login
#1637 [20:18] <callerrkiller> ?
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#1639 [20:25] <Slong_Kong> http://imgur.com/yEMjM,qn1Xr#1 , this is the url to the screen shots i took , hope you helpl
#1640 [20:26] <Slong_Kong> help*
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#1642 [20:29] <Slong_Kong> hello?
#1643 [20:32] <callerrkiller> I am trying I will tell you in a min
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#1645 [20:33] <Slong_Kong> thanks.
#1646 [20:34] <callerrkiller> are you using a unix based system
#1647 [20:34] <Slong_Kong> whats that ?
#1648 [20:35] <callerrkiller> like a mac
#1649 [20:35] <Slong_Kong> yes
#1650 [20:35] <Slong_Kong> why ?
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#1652 [20:35] <callerrkiller> I have a problem too
#1653 [20:35] <Slong_Kong> ur using a mac too?
#1654 [20:35] <callerrkiller> Right now my screen goes black after login
#1655 [20:35] <callerrkiller> yes
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#1657 [20:36] <Slong_Kong> are evan a tech guy for this kinda stuff ?
#1658 [20:37] <Slong_Kong> im trying to try the demo to see if i want to buy the game .
#1659 [20:37] <callerrkiller> so There is a problem with your texture packs
#1660 [20:37] <Slong_Kong> no .
#1661 [20:37] <callerrkiller> I think it is caused from a update
#1662 [20:38] <Slong_Kong> their is a error saying it crashed when i try and load the demo
#1663 [20:38] <callerrkiller> there is an error while bash tries to execute the texture packs
#1664 [20:38] <Scott> Who's having a mac issue?
#1665 [20:39] <callerrkiller> the 2 of us
#1666 [20:39] <Scott> What version of Mac OS X are you on?
#1667 [20:39] <Slong_Kong> NO ONE IS HELPING ME , what are they on brake or something ?
#1668 [20:39] <Scott> To find out, you can click the Apple icon in the top left and then About This Mac.
#1669 [20:39] <callerrkiller> 1.6.8
#1670 [20:39] <Scott> ?? volunteers
#1671 [20:39] <Scott> Meh
#1672 [20:39] <Slong_Kong> hold on bro
#1673 [20:39] <Scott> Slong_Kong: We aren't paid. This is a community help channel.
#1674 [20:40] <Scott> If you can't be patient, be gone!
#1675 [20:40] <Slong_Kong> chill bro
#1676 [20:40] <Scott> I am not your 'bro'.
#1677 [20:40] <Scott> callerrkiller: Okay, please explain your issue to me.
#1678 [20:40] <callerrkiller> slong kong there is a problem in your texture packs
#1679 [20:41] <callerrkiller> so I login normaly and the the screen goes black
#1680 [20:41] <Scott> ??> callerrkiller mac/reinst
#1681 [20:41] <VoxelHead> callerrkiller: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1682 [20:41] <VoxelHead> callerrkiller: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1683 [20:41] <callerrkiller> didn't worked
#1684 [20:41] <Scott> You tried that just now?
#1685 [20:41] <callerrkiller> nope before talking to you
#1686 [20:42] <callerrkiller> But simply didn't work
#1687 [20:42] <Scott> Please do it again
#1688 [20:42] <Slong_Kong> you need to chill
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#1691 [20:43] <callerrkiller> nope the same
#1692 [20:44] <callerrkiller> again all black
#1693 [20:44] <Scott> callerrkiller: Do you launch it from the website or from the Minecraft application?
#1694 [20:44] <callerrkiller> application
#1695 [20:44] <Scott> ok
#1696 [20:44] <Scott> When did this start?
#1697 [20:44] <callerrkiller> tonight
#1698 [20:44] <Scott> Have you installed any updates via Software Update?
#1699 [20:45] <callerrkiller> yep
#1700 [20:45] <Scott> Tonight?
#1701 [20:45] <callerrkiller> yep
#1702 [20:45] <Scott> was it java?
#1703 [20:45] <callerrkiller> yep
#1704 [20:45] <Slong_Kong> if you do an update on java will that mess something up ?
#1705 [20:46] <Scott> okay, hold on.
#1706 [20:46] <callerrkiller> usually no but sometimes there are some little changes in the language of java that could cause a problam
#1707 [20:47] <Slong_Kong> -_- thats sucks
#1708 [20:47] <Slong_Kong> that*
#1709 [20:47] <callerrkiller> but thats why there are allways updates of software
#1710 [20:48] <Slong_Kong> yea but is it a bug or something ?
#1711 [20:48] <callerrkiller> nope
#1712 [20:49] <callerrkiller> it maybe a new code or a new way of description of functions that are described with a booleen
#1713 [20:50] <callerrkiller> slong_kong:what are u studying?
#1714 [20:51] <Scott> I'm unsure, callerrkiller.
#1715 [20:51] <Scott> I don't have Java 7 installed as I need Java 6 for work.
#1716 [20:51] <Scott> I can't test it.
#1717 [20:51] <Lutzee> Maybe a reinstall of java might help
#1718 [20:51] <callerrkiller> I got Java 6 also
#1719 [20:51] <Lutzee> Or even a straight roll back to j6
#1720 [20:52] <Slong_Kong> what do you mean ?
#1721 [20:52] <Scott> Can you change the version being used to java 6 then?
#1722 [20:52] <callerrkiller> I will try
#1723 [20:54] <callerrkiller> It is already java 6
#1724 [20:54] <callerrkiller> there is no higher version
#1725 [20:54] <callerrkiller> for my version of mac
#1726 [20:55] <callerrkiller> arent there any other versions of minecraft that I can try
#1727 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Slong_Kong - Give us a copy of the error report. Paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#1728 [20:56] <Slong_Kong> when i try to copy it , it wont let me right click . im dont know what else to do
#1729 [20:57] <Lutzee> whatever the mac version of ctrl+c is will copy the text
#1730 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> command+c
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#1732 [20:58] <callerrkiller> arent there any other versions of minecraft that I can try?
#1733 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Huh, kiugetski's still trying to connect?
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#1736 [20:59] <Coty> GreyVulpine
#1737 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1738 [21:00] <Coty> My servers worked fine up till now and I cant even connect to it : /
#1739 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you recently reboot your computer?
#1740 [21:00] <Coty> nope
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#1742 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Localhost work?
#1743 [21:01] <Coty> Hmm?
#1744 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> or 127.0.0.1 -- entered from the computer running the server?
#1745 [21:01] <Coty> ill try it
#1746 [21:01] <Coty> nope that doesnt even work
#1747 [21:02] <Slong_Kong> i probobly wont gett it butt thanks for the effort dudes ,
#1748 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Strange... could you paste a copy of the server's log to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL?
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#1750 [21:02] <Coty> I dont understand because it just worked two hours ago before i left
#1751 [21:05] <Slong_Kong> http://pastebin.com/EHwvZNvg , this is the paste bin thing thanks
#1752 [21:05] <Coty> http://pastebin.com/AnvmdPMW
#1753 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Coty - Looks like a copy of the server is already running?
#1754 [21:06] <Coty> Nope, the old comp i used to run it on is in a box in my closest
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#1756 [21:07] <Coty> under aplications?
#1757 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Under processes
#1758 [21:09] <Coty> its not there
#1759 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure?
#1760 [21:09] <Coty> Yup your willing to look if you'd like
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#1762 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Try a reboot of your computer, and try again?
#1763 [21:11] <Coty> Reboot it?
#1764 [21:11] <callerrkiller> if n=m then GTFO else STFU;;
#1765 [21:11] <callerrkiller> let rec STFU : int * int -> chuck norris = fun
#1766 [21:11] <callerrkiller> (n, m) ->
#1767 [21:11] <callerrkiller> let rec STFU : int * int -> chuck norris = fun
#1768 [21:11] <callerrkiller> (n, m) ->
#1769 [21:11] <callerrkiller> if n=m then GTFO else STFU;;
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#1778 [21:18] <tt> can't stay connected to LAN and get this message: internet excpetion java.net socket timeout excpetion read timed out
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#1800 [22:23] <runman77> my computer said that i requested to cancel my account and i did not do tnis is there any way i can get my account back
#1801 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#1804 [22:28] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#1806 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> I wasn't even aware that account-cancellation was a ting
#1807 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> or thing
#1808 [22:30] <DopeGhoti> last I knew, the closest thing there was was changing your password to $CATWALKINGACROSSKEYBOARD
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#1812 [22:41] <`Simm> DiskDaemon: DopeGhoti Eddie GreyVulpine Grim_Reaper Iguana Kealper Morrolan oldtopman Scott tyteen4a03 VoxelHead Wug[Hyperspace] xales
#1813 [22:41] <tyteen4a03> `Simm, you're pinging everybody why?
#1814 [22:41] * TheNoodle blinks
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#1815 [22:44] <DopeGhoti> that was random.
#1816 [22:51] * tyteen4a03 nods
#1816 [22:51] <tyteen4a03> this is also the first time I got mass-pinged on Esper, usually it happens on freenode
#1817 [22:52] <DopeGhoti> heh
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#1819 [23:02] <schaefer55> hello?
#1820 [23:02] <TheNoodle> Hello.
#1821 [23:03] <schaefer55> i sent you a email about my account getting hacked, i was wondering when you will return my message?
#1822 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> schaefer55: We don't work for Mojang
#1823 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> schaefer55 - Nobody here has access to the support ticket system
#1824 [23:04] <schaefer55> then who is this?
#1825 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> schaefer55: THe people who help here are volunteers from around the world who love the game, and want to help others enjoy it too
#1826 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> We're community-run support
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#1838 [23:28] <Deanothebeast30> hello, i am having an issue on my computer. my java is fully up to date, but when i launch minecraft, or the magic launcher, neither open, but javaw.exe starts in my process list on my task manager, any idea whats wrong?
#1839 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> Deanothebeast30: it could be a problem with any number of things. Let's start with Minecraft itself:
#1840 [23:29] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> uh
#1841 [23:29] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> dont tell people u have unofficial launchers
#1842 [23:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> Deanothebeast30 win/reinst
#1843 [23:29] <VoxelHead> Deanothebeast30: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1844 [23:29] <VoxelHead> Deanothebeast30: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1845 [23:29] <Deanothebeast30> thankyou!
#1846 [23:29] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> wow voxsl u type really fast
#1847 [23:30] <VoxelHead> it's a talent.
#1848 [23:30] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> lol
#1849 [23:30] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> nice
#1850 [23:30] <Deanothebeast30> nope, not even the launcher comes up
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#1852 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> Deanothebeast30 specs
#1853 [23:31] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> its an AWESOME one
#1854 [23:31] <VoxelHead> Deanothebeast30: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1855 [23:32] <GamerBah> Has anyone resolved the Snapshot problem?
#1856 [23:32] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> uhh
#1857 [23:32] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> wow...
#1858 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> GamerBah: the what then?
#1859 [23:32] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> hardcore help here
#1860 [23:32] <GamerBah> There is an 'aux' class file problem
#1861 [23:32] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> if anyone wants simple answers and questions pm me
#1862 [23:32] <Deanothebeast30> i know its an HP laptop, Win 7 64-bit, 8GB RAM, no idea on the GPU, and java SE 7 update 9
#1863 [23:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> Deanothebeast30 java/1.7
#1864 [23:32] <VoxelHead> Deanothebeast30: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1865 [23:33] <Deanothebeast30> thankyou
#1866 [23:33] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> Gamer
#1867 [23:33] <GamerBah> Yes?
#1868 [23:33] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> did u download jar from website besides minecraft.net?
#1869 [23:33] <GamerBah> Nope
#1870 [23:33] <GamerBah> Dowloaded right off of the mojang website
#1871 [23:33] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> uhh
#1872 [23:33] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> k
#1873 [23:33] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> aux is a password protected file
#1874 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> GamerBah: is this a mod you are aving problems with?
#1875 [23:33] <GamerBah> No, Dope
#1876 [23:34] <DopeGhoti> have you an error log which you could puton pastebin?
#1877 [23:34] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> try reinstalling?
#1878 [23:34] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> dlete ur jar
#1879 [23:34] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> and tryagain
#1880 [23:34] <GamerBah> When I try to transfer the .zip files to a .jar file, winrar (and 7zip) say that they can't find the file specified: aux
#1881 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> so this is a mod you are having problems with
#1882 [23:35] <GamerBah> And then opening any menu in Minecraft crashes the game...
#1883 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#1884 [23:35] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> why r u transferring?
#1885 [23:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1886 [23:35] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1887 [23:35] <GamerBah> It's not a Mod!
#1888 [23:35] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> Gamer
#1889 [23:35] <GamerBah> Yes?
#1890 [23:35] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> Ill help u wih mods
#1891 [23:35] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> pm me
#1892 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> There is no reason to be doing anything to the .jar file if you're not modding it
#1893 [23:36] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> true dat dope
#1894 [23:36] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> dont touch the jar gamer
#1895 [23:36] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> leave how it is
#1896 [23:38] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> um
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#1900 [23:43] <GamerBah_> Anyone have hepl?
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#1902 [23:44] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> ?
#1903 [23:44] <GamerBah_> I didn't mod Minecraft for one
#1904 [23:44] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> Gamr
#1905 [23:44] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> GamerBah
#1906 [23:44] <GamerBah_> Yes?
#1907 [23:44] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> can u pm me?
#1908 [23:44] <GamerBah_> ok
#1909 [23:45] <oldtopman> S0N_0F_A_S0N: can u pm me 2, im havin the sam prob
#1910 [23:47] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> sure
#1911 [23:47] <S0N_0F_A_S0N> can u pm me?
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