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#40 [02:12] <maxhasadhd> How hard is it to find a jungle temple? i havnt seen any ever
#41 [02:13] <cestislife> It's all algorithms and chance.
#42 [02:13] <cestislife> You were just unlucky.
#43 [02:15] <maxhasadhd> lol very unlucky, thanks:]
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#46 [02:19] <lostcat> I seem to have managed to set my account to run Minecraft full-screen both in the client and in the browser. But now I just get a black screen. How can I reset my settings to not run full screen?
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#49 [02:21] <cestislife> lostcat, what OS are you on?
#50 [02:22] <lostcat> Windows 7
#51 [02:23] <cestislife> ??> lostcat win/.minecraft
#52 [02:23] <VoxelHead> lostcat: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#53 [02:23] <cestislife> Head there, and you should see a option.txt
#54 [02:23] <cestislife> options.txt , even
#55 [02:23] <lostcat> I'll check
#56 [02:25] <cestislife> Search for "fullscreen:true"
#57 [02:25] <cestislife> Change true to false.
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#59 [02:27] <lostcat> Cool, I changed that to false. Somehow Touchscreen was also true. Switched it back.
#60 [02:27] <lostcat> So that's good...
#61 [02:27] <cestislife> mhmm
#62 [02:28] <lostcat> But now I'm back to the first problem I had...The key commands don't do anything. I'm just vibrating up and down. I can move, just look with the mouse and click to swing my arm.
#63 [02:29] <cestislife> It might be worth updating LWJGL.
#64 [02:29] <cestislife> Hold on.
#65 [02:29] <cestislife> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1625325-how-to-update-lwjgl/
#66 [02:29] <lostcat> I just installed everything for the first time, by the way. I installed Java 30 min ago.
#67 [02:29] <cestislife> Yes I understand, but Mojang packages an old version of LWJGL with Minecraft.
#68 [02:30] <lostcat> OK, I'll d/l and see. Thanks.
#69 [02:30] <cestislife> Updating that might solve your issue.
#70 [02:30] <cestislife> If all else fails, delete the options.txt
#71 [02:32] <cestislife> lostcat, try this first, destroy the block below you.
#72 [02:33] <lostcat> I did run the LWJGL auto-updater. Thanks.
#73 [02:34] <cestislife> Alright.
#74 [02:34] <cestislife> But yeah, you might be stuck in the block you're in, though
#75 [02:34] <lostcat> That didn't fix the issue, but destroying the block beneath me did.
#76 [02:34] <lostcat> So thanks on both counts.
#77 [02:34] <lostcat> I'm going to go play a bit.
#78 [02:34] <cestislife> o/
#79 [02:39] <lostcat> Any suggestions for setting the control to select blocks when you don't have a 3rd button? I have a trackball with just Left and Right mouse buttons.
#80 [02:39] <cestislife> Well, you could always use the keyboard buttons of 1 through 0
#81 [02:39] <cestislife> or 1-9, even
#82 [02:39] <lostcat> Tried setting to a keyboard key, but that only advances the selection to the right...Doesn't loop or allow left movement.
#83 [02:39] <lostcat> Got it. Thanks.
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#99 [03:17] <Soos> Hello, i just downloaded the lastest version of ForgeEssentials (FE) it works fine on my tekkit lite server but i can't seem to give anyone any permissions, theres no groups.config did i mess up somehwere?
#100 [03:17] <cestislife> ?? mods
#101 [03:17] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#102 [03:17] <Soos> FE .221
#103 [03:17] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#104 [03:17] <Soos> oh ok thank you
#105 [03:17] <Soos> oh ok thank you
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#129 [04:36] <Kanade_Vix> I am trying to get a refund for minecraft as it will not run on my computer but they have not replied to my last 2 emails.
#130 [04:39] <cestislife> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#131 [04:39] <cestislife> "Please do not send multiple emails, as doing so slows down our response time. We will get to each email in the order it was received."
#132 [04:40] <Kanade_Vix> I did the first one the first day and the next one a week later. I get an email a week later saying the payment went through but nothing else.
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#152 [05:48] <Sean_> I just downloaded Mincraft on my Macbook Pro and the character keeps shaking, I can punch but not move
#153 [05:49] <Sean_> help
#154 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Try destroying the block beneath you
#155 [05:52] <Sean_> k I started a new game and it's working now, thanks though!
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#164 [06:54] <Richard> I bought Minecraft before Christmas, more than once as it turns out. But, I can't find any redeem code, nor have I had any communication with Mojang. What's up?
#165 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#166 [06:55] <Richard> Do you work for Mojang?
#167 [06:55] <TheNoodle> This channel is volunteer run.
#168 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> No, nobody who provides help on here does so at the pay of Mojang. We are all volunteers from around the world who love the game and want to help others to enjoy it too
#169 [06:55] <Richard> OK.thanks.
#170 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> It can take several weeks for Mojang to respond to your email, due to the backlog of others that they are honor-bound to respond to. So perhaps we can help you to resolve your issue instead
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#172 [06:57] <DiskDaemon> Richard: How do you know that you have purchased Minecraft more than once? Has your bank account been charged multiple times for it?
#173 [06:59] <Richard> Actually, I got a cal from my bank about the charge, as it came up as a foreign purchase.
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#175 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> Good one, it's nice of them to care to that degree
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#184 [07:26] <Guest47616> our minecraft game wont allow us to login...crashing...get this error report..Users/greysonbarber/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-01-11_07.17.50-client.txt
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#186 [07:26] <Guest47616> what to do?
#187 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#188 [07:26] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#189 [07:27] <Guest47616> unfortunately i dont understand that
#190 [07:28] <worldmc> copy the stuff in the file to pastebin
#191 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> Go and open that text file on your computer. Copy the contents of that text file, and paste it to .... as said.
#192 [07:28] <Guest47616> where is paste bin...a website???
#193 [07:28] <worldmc> www.pastebin.com
#194 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> It's a web site. The link is in what VoxelHead said.
#195 [07:29] <Guest47616> got it..do i have to pay for this...how do i know its safe
#196 [07:29] <worldmc> its free
#197 [07:30] <worldmc> and the site is as safe such as the whole world uses it.
#198 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> You can also use other sites for pasting anonymous content if you wish. Just so long as your text can get to a large number of people here who may be helping, please use whichever technique is easiest for you and satisfies your needs
#199 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> You can also use other sites for pasting anonymous content if you wish. Just so long as your text can get to a large number of people here who may be helping, please use whichever technique is easiest for you and satisfies your needs
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#212 [08:09] <wikkit> Hello
#213 [08:10] <wikkit> Are any1 helper here?
#214 [08:20] <wikkit> Guys?
#215 [08:20] <wikkit> Shadow?
#216 [08:21] <Andrio> Just ask your question.
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#218 [08:21] <Andrio> Or don't.
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#233 [09:06] <tyteen4a03> yay, a zero day Java exploit
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#236 [09:09] <migs> i've bought minecraft and downloaded it, when i double click it and login after a few seconds later the screen goes black and it dissapears and nothing else happens
#237 [09:09] <migs> how do i fix it?
#238 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> migs, windows I presume?
#239 [09:10] <migs> ye
#240 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> migs, does it give out an error message?
#241 [09:10] <migs> no
#242 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> migs win/dxdiag/bat
#243 [09:10] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#244 [09:10] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#245 [09:11] <migs> after pressing log in it just goes black and then dissapears
#246 [09:12] <tyteen4a03> uh, need to stop tabbing into topic
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#248 [09:16] <migs> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x56c85861, pid=496, tid=5956 # # JRE version: 7.0_07-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.3-b01 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [aticfx32.dll+0x25861] gslCfxExit+0xe1 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows # # If you would like to submit a bug repor
#249 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> migs, please use pastebin.com to paste the error
#250 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> ??> migs win/dxdiag/bat
#251 [09:17] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#252 [09:17] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#253 [09:19] <migs> http://pastebin.com/wQd6GSzP
#254 [09:21] <migs> nothing happends when i click the dxdiag collector url
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#257 [09:29] <tyteen4a03> migs: hang on
#258 [09:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> migs gpu/amd
#259 [09:30] <VoxelHead> migs: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#260 [09:30] <tyteen4a03> migs: please download and install the graphics driver
#261 [09:35] <migs> hmm, unable to find os
#262 [09:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> migs win/dxdiag
#263 [09:36] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#264 [09:37] <VoxelHead> migs: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#266 [09:40] <migs> http://pastebin.com/13axm6Rk
#267 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> migs, hang on
#268 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> migs c660
#269 [09:44] <VoxelHead> migs: (c660) The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
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#275 [09:57] <JoshuaHaire007> Hello! I am the mother of a 5 year old boy who loves playing minecraft on the ipad. We downloaded it for the computer, but he can not pick up blocks, build with blocks or break blocks. The Old Version of Minecraft allows him to, but not the new one. What is going on?
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#278 [10:02] <Morrolan> Mothers of five year olds aren't what they used to be. :<
#279 [10:03] <Morrolan> They used to be able to wait nine months (!) for their kid. Then another 20 years (!!!) to see it grow up. Now they can't even wait five minutes for an answer.
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#281 [10:05] <NinjaKirby> I get the impression she likes Daniel Craig.
#282 [10:05] <NinjaKirby> She longing for an Alpha male to take control.
#283 [10:05] <NinjaKirby> *She longing, lol, sounds fukken' Engrish
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#285 [10:05] <NinjaKirby> She longing long time
#286 [10:06] <NinjaKirby> I digress
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#288 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> I suppose Alpha males in sex lifes can be quite fulfilling
#289 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> but why am I talking about it here
#290 [10:09] <Morrolan> I guess because you fancy TheNoodle?
#291 [10:09] <Morrolan> He does have quite the beard, after all!
#292 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> I have no idea how TheNoodle looks like
#293 [10:09] <Grim_Reaper> I do
#294 [10:09] <NinjaKirby> Touched by his Noodely appendage.
#295 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> if you're talking about Skype avatar, sure
#296 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> check his twitter and youtube video.
#297 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> Sadly he shaved a ton
#298 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> So he's not very... wizard like anymore
#299 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> for some reason I didn't follow him on my twitter
#300 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> not that I use twitter a lot anyway
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#306 [10:35] <TheNoodle> FOLLOW MEEEEEEE
#307 [10:35] <TheNoodle> ahem
#308 [10:36] <Grim_Reaper> I already am
#309 [10:36] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#310 [10:39] <TheNoodle> :3
#311 [10:39] <Morrolan> A youtube channel, eh?
#312 [10:39] <Grim_Reaper> Indeed
#313 [10:39] <Grim_Reaper> He does internet challenges
#314 [10:40] <TheNoodle> Well, so for the Internet has seen one challenge
#315 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> So far he's only posted a video where he tried to eat a whole raw onion
#316 [10:40] <Morrolan> <.<
#317 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> The other 7/8..
#318 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Have yet to be posted
#319 [10:40] <TheNoodle> Second is just being finished now
#320 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> The cinnamon challenge?
#321 [10:40] <TheNoodle> yep
#322 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> The other day my friend did it. He ACTUALLY did it man
#323 [10:40] <Morrolan> Two challenges, both involving spicy things?
#324 [10:41] <Grim_Reaper> Then he tried to up the challenge by using a tablespoon. Failed
#325 [10:41] <Grim_Reaper> I've tried the cinnamon challenge with tea spoon and table spoon about 4 times now I think
#326 [10:41] <TheNoodle> haha, just wait grim.
#327 [10:41] <TheNoodle> I have a throat of steel.
#328 [10:41] <Morrolan> I suppose things like these are why I thought him to be much younger than he actually seems to be. :P
#329 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> lol lol. TheNoodle is amazingly.. my age..
#330 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> I was shocked
#331 [10:42] <TheNoodle> haha
#332 [10:42] <TheNoodle> It's the hair I think
#333 [10:42] <Grim_Reaper> Unless he's trolling me >_>
#334 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> Yes indeed it's the hair
#335 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> And beard
#336 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle, so should I fancy you?
#337 [10:43] <Morrolan> So he looks older than I thought him to be, but is actually as young as I thought him to be? :p
#338 [10:43] <Morrolan> Confused, I am.
#339 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#340 [10:44] <Morrolan> Also, him being your age makes him?
#341 [10:44] <TheNoodle> 19
#342 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> I thought noodle was like 28-34 goin by the beard and such. But his face looks young
#343 [10:44] <tyteen4a03> do you even read his skype profile? :p
#344 [10:44] <TheNoodle> lol
#345 [10:44] <Morrolan> I don't use Skype terribly often.
#346 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, was talking about Grim_Reaper
#347 [10:45] <Morrolan> Oh. :D
#348 [10:45] <Morrolan> TheNoodle: Well, so you are about as old as I thought you were. But...
#349 [10:45] <Grim_Reaper> What is this ! http://i.imgur.com/sNKsJ.png
#350 [10:45] <Grim_Reaper> I tried to retweet
#351 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> ok, he does look old
#352 [10:46] <Morrolan> Yea, hair and bear falsify it horribly.
#353 [10:46] <Grim_Reaper> Bleh twitter is being lame
#354 [10:47] <Grim_Reaper> I was trying to link an awesome pic of TheNoodle's beard before it was mutilated..
#355 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> he also look like some pedo
#356 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> *looks
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#358 [10:47] <TheNoodle> :(
#359 [10:47] <Grim_Reaper> Only the first pic
#360 [10:47] <Grim_Reaper> The rest is all good :D
#361 [10:49] <TheNoodle> :3
#362 [10:49] <Grim_Reaper> Damn TheNoodle link us with the one image where your beard and hair is really long
#363 [10:49] <Grim_Reaper> Twitter is being lame
#364 [10:49] <TheNoodle> lolsec
#365 [10:50] <tyteen4a03> and the white hair
#366 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> Also link your awesome gandalf image <#
#367 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> <3 *
#368 [10:51] <TheNoodle> https://twitter.com/thenoodle68/status/261836450096623616
#369 [10:51] <Grim_Reaper> \ o /
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#371 [10:57] <TheNoodle> Grim_Reaper http://i.imgur.com/2dfBI.jpg
#372 [10:57] <Grim_Reaper> Thank you <3
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#393 [11:43] <madghost> hi all
#394 [11:44] <madghost> Tell me please, some server for minecraft where I will survival? Please.
#395 [11:44] <madghost> I'm a newbie in Minecraft.
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#397 [11:44] <madghost> I can't understand what I should do in some servers (((((
#398 [11:44] <MrSock> Hi
#399 [11:45] <MrSock> Anyone offerin to help ?
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#401 [11:46] <madghost> I tried to play in these servers http://servers.minecraftforum.net/servers but it far away against my local server
#402 [11:46] <madghost> I want to play on some oficial minecraft server where people survival
#403 [11:46] <madghost> where I can take something and use it for building
#404 [11:47] <NinjaKirby> madghost: Unfortunately no official servers, best bet is some other Server List websites that might offer more traditional Survival maps.
#405 [11:47] <madghost> I don't understand What should I do for example here us1-public.minez.net ((((
#406 [11:47] <NinjaKirby> Some of those servers could be specialist Maps/generation stuff, or just Creative mode maps.
#407 [11:47] <NinjaKirby> SkyBlocks or whatever it's called comes to mind, Survival which an extreme twist.
#408 [11:48] <madghost> Oh ) it was easy )))
#409 [11:48] <madghost> I found this http://minecraftservers.org/
#410 [11:48] <madghost> thank you )
#411 [11:48] <NinjaKirby> What's up MrSock?
#412 [11:48] <MrSock> Finally
#413 [11:48] <NinjaKirby> lolwat
#414 [11:48] <NinjaKirby> Not a good start
#415 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> ??> MrSock ask
#416 [11:49] <VoxelHead> MrSock: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#417 [11:49] <VoxelHead> MrSock: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#418 [11:49] <madghost> )
#419 [11:49] <madghost> why is it bad start?
#420 [11:49] <NinjaKirby> You're fine madghost :) Best of luck finding a server
#421 [11:50] <madghost> heh )
#422 [11:50] <MrSock> So, my friend lost his MC account, he is asking if he can get it back by using the gift-code he used for it, he wants to change the password anf for the password to be sent to the new e-mail address which has also been changed. P.S - he is not going to write to Mojang because he has wrote to them 3 times and he still has no fuc*ing reply!
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#424 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, the only way would be to write to Mojang
#425 [11:50] <MrSock> Fu*k sake -.-
#426 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, they currently have a 14 day backlog of email to process
#427 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> could be longer
#428 [11:51] <MrSock> But yeah, he wrote like 6 months ago and he still has no reply, is that normal ?
#429 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, could be lost in the myraid of email servers, try sending again
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#431 [11:51] <MrSock> Or are Mojang people that only want people to buy their account but dont actually want to help if they are stolen ? -.-
#432 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, I would of course say not, but if you want to think that way it's up to you ;)
#433 [11:53] <NinjaKirby> That sounds more like EA Games
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#435 [11:54] <NinjaKirby> Their work force is massive, they still suck at support.
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#437 [11:56] <MrSock> My friend is asking if there is a different way to get his acc back rather than sending an e-mail which will never get read
#438 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, no
#439 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, also as I told you, his original email could be lost in the internet
#440 [11:58] <MrSock> I dont get that
#441 [11:58] <MrSock> How can an original e-mail be lost?
#442 [11:58] <MrSock> If he is sending the e-mail to Mojang from the e-mail his acc is on ...
#443 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, are you sending an email using this page?
#444 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> MrSock mojang/email
#445 [11:58] <VoxelHead> MrSock: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#446 [11:59] <MrSock> Yes sure, I can send an e-mail by IRC -.-
#447 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> is that a yes or a no?
#448 [11:59] <MrSock> Yes
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#450 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> ok
#451 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, Mojang uses an external website to handle emails, this external website is located in the US while Mojang is located in Sweden, so your email may have gotten lost in between the transmission
#452 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> MrSock, also, 6 months ago Mojang had roughly 2 to 6 month of email backlog, so Mojang may have missed your email
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#454 [12:01] <MrSock> Brb.
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#456 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> 18<MrSock> If he is sending the e-mail to Mojang from the e-mail his acc is on ...
#457 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> uh
#458 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> 18<MrSock> Yes sure, I can send an e-mail by IRC -.-
#459 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> somebody please demonstrate
#460 [12:02] <worldmc> well
#461 [12:02] <worldmc> some users have outlook wich will be called for every mail adres that you click
#462 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, that is not sending email by IRC
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#464 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> IRC is a chat protocol, it has no association with emails
#465 [12:03] <worldmc> he prob ment that lol and i use mibbit aswell and i know that it cant
#466 [12:03] <worldmc> it could be a fancy eddited client with plugins to have it sent a email
#467 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> he was pretty rude anyway
#468 [12:03] <worldmc> yep
#469 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, just hook a mailto: before the email and you're done
#470 [12:04] <worldmc> yep
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#472 [12:05] <worldmc> edit topic: we help people to be nice, plaese be nice to us aswell
#473 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, DopeGhoti will complain
#474 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> whenever people are rude, we have ?? attitude and /kick
#475 [12:05] <worldmc> ahh
#476 [12:06] <worldmc> well voxelhead is pretty smart. it bant me this week for join flooding by accident
#477 [12:07] <worldmc> my client derpt out
#478 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> well mibbit sucks
#479 [12:07] <Calinou> tyteen4a03++
#480 [12:07] <tyteen4a04> *ding*
#481 [12:07] <Calinou> xchat for teh win
#482 [12:08] <worldmc> its a way that i can use irc other then webchat on my school. the got ports blocked
#483 [12:08] <Calinou> (or hexchat)
#484 [12:08] <tyteen4a04> worldmc, webchat is better than mibbit
#485 [12:08] <Calinou> that too
#486 [12:08] <Calinou> webchat.esper.net
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#488 [12:08] <worldmc> i know
#489 [12:08] <tyteen4a04> tyteen4a04--
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#491 [12:08] <worldmc> but i have to go. see you guys later
#492 [12:08] <Helloman892> Holy mother of God, I haven't been here in a while.
#493 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> bye
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#495 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, #minecrafthelp, rocking your boat since 23th July 2010.
#496 [12:10] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03, I was once a regular here.
#497 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892, that explains why your name was familiar
#498 [12:11] <Helloman892> Indeed it does.
#499 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle, what is +g for channel?
#500 [12:12] <Helloman892> Google it.
#501 [12:12] <Helloman892> Lulz.
#502 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> well I was looking at the EsperNet ChanServ page and couldn't find a +g
#503 [12:14] <Helloman892> +g Free invite. Everyone may invite users. Significantly weakens +i control.
#504 [12:14] <Helloman892> http://www.esper.net/ircd.php#ircd-channelmodes
#505 [12:14] <Helloman892> It's there.
#506 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> I must have been looking at the wrong page
#507 [12:15] <Helloman892> It would seem so.
#508 [12:16] <TheNoodle> Look on the IRCd page, since its a channel mode, not a chanserv flag
#509 [12:16] <Helloman892> TheNoodle, I already linked him it.
#510 [12:17] <TheNoodle> I know, I was providing the logic behind the different pages so when a similar question arose in the future he would know where to look.
#511 [12:18] <Helloman892> Oh, I got it.
#512 [12:18] <Helloman892> Man, I'm rusty on the whole helping thing.
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#520 [12:25] <TheNoodle> Grim_Reaper: Uploading
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#535 [12:45] <Zet> hi
#536 [12:45] <Zet> I'm running minecraft on debian linux, and I currently don't get any sound
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#538 [12:47] <Lutzee> Zet: try this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#539 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> Zet: have you double-checked that sound is in fact working elsewhere, and indeed in other Java applications?
#540 [12:47] <Zet> DopeGhoti: sound works in non-java programs, such as vlc and youtube on chromium
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#542 [12:48] <Zet> Lutzee: I have all the lwjgl stuff linked to the library files installed on my debian system
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#544 [12:49] <Zet> I think the situation may be that my TV tuner card has a sound device on it and minecraft may be trying to play sound on that
#545 [12:50] <Zet> however, "aplay -L" says that the "sysdefault" card is indeed the one I have my headphones hooked up to
#546 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> Zet: have you tested audio on any other Java programs?
#547 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java are you running
#548 [12:51] <Zet> I don't think I have any other Java programs
#549 [12:51] <DopeGhoti> Is sound turned on in Minecraft itself?
#550 [12:51] <Lutzee> I was always under the asumption that minecraft will always point at the lwjgl libraries downloaded by the game.
#551 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: it will, but if you clear 'em out and drop symlinks in there at Zet indicated.. (:
#552 [12:52] <Lutzee> Oh symlinks i guess yeah
#553 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> (or hardlinks)
#554 [12:54] <Lutzee> Well the console log shows whether the sound system starts successfully so that might be worth checking
#555 [12:55] <Zet> java version "1.6.0_26"
#556 [12:55] <DopeGhoti> Zet: free java came that should give you sound (no need ot set up an account, it plays music at you at the login screen): www.puzzlepirates.com/download.xhtml
#557 [12:55] <Zet> except /usr/bin/java points to openjdk. apparently I have both openjdk and sun java installed.
#558 [12:56] <Lutzee> Did you install sun java yourself then?
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#560 [12:56] <Zet> yeah
#561 [12:56] * Calinou rolls eyes about debian
#561 [12:56] <Calinou> (obligatory rolleyes)
#562 [12:56] <DopeGhoti> Zet: `sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#563 [12:56] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: Debian is a perfectly good distro. Let's not get into OS jihads, mmkay?
#564 [12:57] <Calinou> Zet: make sure you have no other sound source
#565 [12:57] <Calinou> ALSA hates multiple sound sources and this is why we have pulseaudio and bigger CPUs
#566 [12:57] <Calinou> also, your openjdk is outdated
#567 [12:58] <Zet> ah, I get errors in the console. http://pastebin.com/3QL7gyyp
#568 [12:58] <Zet> Calinou: that's the sun java version
#569 [12:58] <Calinou> you use debian yet you use pastebin.com? that's non-free!
#570 [12:58] <Calinou> oh
#571 [12:58] <Calinou> Zet: your LWJGL is outdated
#572 [12:58] <Lutzee> ERROR MESSAGE:
#573 [12:58] <Lutzee> Could not locate OpenAL library.
#574 [12:58] <Calinou> latest is 2.8.4
#575 [12:58] <Calinou> also, that
#576 [12:58] <Calinou> did you update the natives folder?
#577 [12:58] <Lutzee> Zet: Your links aren't looking at the sound library
#578 [12:59] <Zet> errr let's see
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#582 [12:59] <Zet> oh yeah some of the links are broken
#583 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> Zet: confirmed, your log shows that it can't find OpenAL; make sure your symlinks are good.
#584 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> well, fix 'em!
#585 [13:00] <Zet> let's see about fixing those...
#586 [13:00] <DopeGhoti> (:
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#588 [13:00] <Calinou> one more developer was annoyed by a debian user. :-)
#589 [13:01] <Helloman892> Lol, ChanServ beat Vox.
#590 [13:01] <Zet> wait no they aren't
#591 [13:01] <Lutzee> Helloman892: chanserv voiced grim, then vox opped him
#592 [13:01] <Calinou> Zet: did you replace the .so files in the natives folder?
#593 [13:01] <Zet> they were just colored red by ls because they're .jar files
#594 [13:01] <Calinou> also update to 2.8.4
#595 [13:01] <Calinou> you're using 2.7.1..
#596 [13:02] <Helloman892> Ah, Lutzee, I see my error.
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#598 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> Zet: the links should be to .so files, should they not?
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#600 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> either way, symlinks, even to .jar files, should appear cyan, no?
#601 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> (your ls --color settings may vary)
#602 [13:03] <Calinou> (with a @ at the end of the name)
#603 [13:03] <Calinou> erm, no
#604 [13:03] <Zet> .jar files are archives like .tar.gz so they're red on my settings
#605 [13:03] <Calinou> yes, red here too
#606 [13:03] <Zet> however, my .bashrc is probably from like 2001
#607 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> Zet: usually, the symlink coloring overrides filetype coloring, but again, settings vary (:
#608 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> and that's not important
#609 [13:04] <Zet> so yeah, apparently I have everything in order except links to openal.so and openal64.so are missing. weird.
#610 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> welp, set those links up then (:
#611 [13:05] <Zet> is this it? /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1
#612 [13:08] <Calinou> Zet: you're doing it wrong. did you download LWJGL, then replace jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar and lwjgl_util.jar, and replace the files inside "natives" with the .so files in the "linux" folder?
#613 [13:08] <Calinou> works for me
#614 [13:08] <Calinou> no symlinks
#615 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: that's one way
#616 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> the other way is to have up-to-date system libraries
#617 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> and link to them
#618 [13:08] <Calinou> but that doesn't update lwjgl
#619 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> Zet: that looks like the right destination path
#620 [13:08] <Calinou> and there are no up-to-date system libs in debian stable and testing
#621 [13:08] <Zet> ok I get this now http://pastebin.com/mBE8GUQ7
#622 [13:08] <Calinou> why I use xubuntu ^
#623 [13:09] <Zet> but still no sound
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#625 [13:09] <Calinou> Zet: do you have any other sound source when you started the game?
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#627 [13:09] <Zet> hmm let me just kill my browser and try again
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#630 [13:10] <Helloman892> Lol.
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#633 [13:12] <Zet> ...I got the same openal error message now that I closed my browser
#634 [13:12] <Zet> what the hell
#635 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> Zet: please pastebin the output of `ls -l ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/`
#636 [13:14] <Zet> I move the .minecraft aside and made a fresh one. now I get this with the files that come with minecraft: http://pastebin.com/YDTvqFbE
#637 [13:14] <Calinou> Zet: do the sound works in other games if another sound source is open?
#638 [13:15] <Zet> I don't even know
#639 [13:16] <Lutzee> It looks like the sound library cant find what your default sound device is set to
#640 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> correct, Lutzee
#641 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Zet: try playing an audio file with mplayer
#642 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> (which also uses OpenAL)
#643 [13:17] <Zet> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1401:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
#644 [13:17] <Zet> [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such device
#645 [13:17] <Zet> Failed to initialize audio driver 'alsa'
#646 [13:17] <Zet> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
#647 [13:18] <Zet> I think the TV tuner card is messing up my ALSA
#648 [13:18] <Zet> I wonder why Youtube and Flash works in my browser
#649 [13:18] <Zet> the audio in these, that is
#650 [13:19] <Zet> mplayer does work with -ao oss
#651 [13:20] <Zet> !!!
#652 [13:20] <Zet> ok
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#656 [13:20] <Calinou> since when any TV tuner works under linux :P
#657 [13:20] <Calinou> they're the new fingerprint readers
#658 [13:21] <Zet> you are really not contributing anything
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#660 [13:21] <Zet> I can get sound in minecraft by doing the following: 1) open minecraft 2) try to play a sound file with mplayer -ao oss (it complains /dev/dsp is busy) 3) sound now works in minecraft until I close it and open it again
#661 [13:21] <Zet> let me do it again from the terminal and grab the output
#662 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> Zet: interesting indeed
#663 [13:22] <Calinou> btw, the game downloads sounds when running, so sometimes menu sounds may not play
#664 [13:22] <Zet> no wait
#665 [13:22] <Calinou> (it'll save them of course)
#666 [13:22] <Zet> it just works now
#667 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: no, the game downloads sounds before running.
#668 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> that's part of _what_ it downloads.
#669 [13:23] <Lutzee> It doesn't actually, they are downloaded on runtime when needed
#670 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Zet: so.. forcing mplayer to use OSS fixed Minecraft (or ALSA) for repeated run cycles?
#671 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> fascinating
#672 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: really? Huh; TIL
#673 [13:23] <Lutzee> As do the language files now
#674 [13:23] <Zet> DopeGhoti: yes. here's the terminal output http://pastebin.com/0zzu5ftd
#675 [13:23] <Lutzee> DopeGhoti: means they can change any sound file without issuing an update
#676 [13:24] <Zet> DopeGhoti: the exceptions occur whenever I click a menu button that plays a sound. the sound still plays, but it also prints the exception.
#677 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Curiouser and curiouser
#678 [13:25] <Zet> no wait it's actually just the Multiplayer button
#679 [13:25] <Zet> hah
#680 [13:25] <Zet> I'm a terrible tester
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#682 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> do you have any servers in your multiplayer list?
#683 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> well
#684 [13:25] <Zet> no I don't now that I have a fresh .minecraft
#685 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> yeah, let's only work on one problem at a time (:
#686 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> the empty list may explain the NPEs
#687 [13:27] <Zet> probably
#688 [13:27] <Lutzee> Let me work out what is null one minute
#689 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> Zet: so other buttons / sounds work nominally with no stack traces, yes?
#690 [13:28] <Zet> yes. except I made another blank .minecraft and now the sound doesn't work again.
#691 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> try the mplayer thing again
#692 [13:28] <Lutzee> wat
#693 [13:29] <Lutzee> axy.a is ModelDragon
#694 [13:29] <Lutzee> oh derp
#695 [13:29] <Lutzee> ayx..
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#697 [13:29] <Lutzee> ayx is the server list class, and the loading of the server data fails because it is null
#698 [13:30] <Zet> DopeGhoti: mplayer trick didn't work at first, but I realized I had my browser open. closed it, and now minecraft has sound again.
#699 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> as I suspected
#700 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> Zet: aha!
#701 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> so your browser is locking ALSA up
#702 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> you might look into switching to pulseaudio, but also "if it ain't broke, don't break it"
#703 [13:32] <Al> hi, can anyone help...I tried to download a mod for my son and now we can't log in to play
#704 [13:33] <Zet> I used to have software mixing working in ALSA almost 10 years ago, but apparently it's broken again
#705 [13:33] <Helloman892> Al: Please read the topic: 'We only support non-modded current releases.'. However, I may be able to aid you. What modification was this?
#706 [13:33] <Al> Thanks, it was shape shifter
#707 [13:34] <Helloman892> I'll Google it.
#708 [13:34] <Al> I don't know a lot about the game, my son plays, I thought I backed up the game before I downloaded but I can't seem to restore it
#709 [13:36] <Zet> the sound is still working very unpredictably
#710 [13:36] <Helloman892> Ah, to restore it, you need to go to your .minecraft folder and delete the 'bin' directory. Then login, and you should download the game again without any savegame loss. Unfortunately, it appears as if Shape Shifter does not support the current release correctly.
#711 [13:36] <Zet> I can't keep track of what affects it
#712 [13:36] <Zet> I now have both minecraft and browser open, and get button sounds in the menu.
#713 [13:38] <Al> Ok, thanks so much, will I have to pay for the game again do you think?
#714 [13:38] <Helloman892> No, you will not need to pay for the game again.
#715 [13:38] <Helloman892> Your son's account is permanently premium, so he will own every update.
#716 [13:39] <Al> Ok, thanks again..bye for now
#717 [13:39] <Helloman892> No worries, always glad to help.
#718 [13:39] <Zet> hmm yeah it's probably just the menu button sounds that are unpredictable
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#720 [13:40] <Calinou> <DopeGhoti> you might look into switching to pulseaudio, but also "if it ain't broke, don't break it"
#721 [13:40] <Calinou> award of the best sentence
#722 [13:41] <Calinou> prepare for intel CPU
#723 [13:41] <Rhoske> is there any way of checking if a username is taken without buying the game?
#724 [13:41] <Helloman892> Yes, easily.
#725 [13:41] <Helloman892> Make an account.
#726 [13:41] <Helloman892> If it's taken, choose a different name.
#727 [13:41] <Helloman892> Once happy, buy the game.
#728 [13:41] <Helloman892> Simple.
#729 [13:41] <Zet> Calinou: what are you saying?
#730 [13:41] <Lutzee> Helloman892: does not work like that any more
#731 [13:42] <Rhoske> I tried but it turn's out you have to pay before you choose your username.
#732 [13:42] * Calinou rolls eyes
#732 [13:42] <Lutzee> You cant get a username before buying the game
#733 [13:42] <Rhoske> turns*
#734 [13:42] <Necrodoom> Rhoske: you dont want to buy game if your wanted username is taken?
#735 [13:42] <Helloman892> Lutzee: It doesn't?
#736 [13:42] <Helloman892> Why is this
#737 [13:42] <Helloman892> Mojang, what're you doing!?
#738 [13:42] <Lutzee> Helloman892: You can no longer make a minecraft.net account
#739 [13:42] <Zet> Calinou: yes?
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#741 [13:42] <Lutzee> It has been like this for over a month now
#742 [13:42] <Rhoske> Basically, yes. I wanted a name change so I'm doing it the long way.
#743 [13:42] <Helloman892> I wouldn't know.
#744 [13:43] <Rhoske> But that's irrelevant.
#745 [13:43] <Helloman892> I've had my account for 2 years.
#746 [13:43] <Lutzee> Rhoske: It is possible to check the premium status of an account using minecraft.net/haspaid?user=<username>
#747 [13:44] <Rhoske> okay, I'll try that.
#748 [13:44] <Helloman892> Wasn't there a bot on here that could check haspaid?
#749 [13:44] <Helloman892> Something like:
#750 [13:44] <Helloman892> !haspaid Helloman892
#751 [13:44] <Rhoske> 404
#752 [13:44] <Helloman892> Or something
#753 [13:45] <NinjaKirby> !paid ninjakirby
#754 [13:45] <Helloman892> Odd.
#755 [13:45] <Lutzee> There is AuBot.
#756 [13:45] <Helloman892> !paid Helloman892
#757 [13:45] <Helloman892> There we are.
#758 [13:45] <Rhoske> !Rhoske
#759 [13:45] <Rhoske> oops.
#760 [13:45] <Lutzee> Rhoske: dont use the <> that was just showing it was a variable
#761 [13:45] <Helloman892> !paid Rhoske
#762 [13:46] <Rhoske> ah
#763 [13:46] <Lutzee> huh
#764 [13:46] <Lutzee> oh
#765 [13:46] <Rhoske> awesome, that's all I needed.
#766 [13:46] <Lutzee> ohhttp://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=lutzee
#767 [13:46] <Lutzee> I derped
#768 [13:46] <Lutzee> i mised the .jsp file extention >.>
#769 [13:46] <Helloman892> You did indeed.
#770 [13:47] <Lutzee> Distracted by messing with this :3 http://puu.sh/1MtqX
#771 [13:48] <Helloman892> Hello, James.
#772 [13:48] <Helloman892> :P
#773 [13:48] <Lutzee> Jamie* tyvm :p
#774 [13:48] <Helloman892> Lol.7
#775 [13:48] <Helloman892> -7
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#777 [13:49] <Helloman892> Meh, Jamie is just a nick for James.
#778 [13:49] <Lutzee> Lets not get in to a debate, my birth certificate says Jamie :p
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#784 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> Lutzee: Jamie is therefor by definition _not_ a nickname in your case (:
#785 [13:57] <Helloman892> Oh, fine.
#786 [13:57] <Lutzee> Correct :)
#787 [13:57] <Lutzee> (Also this is really interesting read of the guide notes for it)
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#790 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> true fact: "nickname" defives from "ekename", literally "additional name"
#791 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> derives, even
#792 [13:59] <gusti> hello. I cant log in to my newpaid account?
#793 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> 'an ekename' -> 'a nickname' because English is dumb and absorbs mispronounciations as canon if enough people do it.
#794 [13:59] <Helloman892|TF2> gusti, what's your username on MC?
#795 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> gusti: what happens when you try?
#796 [14:00] <gusti> I need an password - and I dont know it?
#797 [14:00] <Helloman892|TF2> You don't know your password?
#798 [14:00] <gusti> No
#799 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> gusti: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#800 [14:00] <Helloman892|TF2> Can't help you there.
#801 [14:00] <Lutzee> gusti: you should be using the same login credentials as you use on the mojang website
#802 [14:00] <Helloman892|TF2> ^They can, though.
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#810 [14:16] <othrguy> hello ppl, could i get some help plz?
#811 [14:16] <othrguy> ok i ve got a black screen as soon as i run minecraft and nothing more, i m currently running on linux
#812 [14:17] <Morrolan> A force update is always worth a shot. Quick, and tends to help.
#813 [14:17] <Morrolan> ?? fu
#814 [14:17] <Morrolan> ?? forceupdate
#815 [14:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#816 [14:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#817 [14:18] <othrguy> it never gets to the log in screen, i run the command to execute the .jar file and the minecraft window pops up but with a black screen. after that it just stucks
#818 [14:19] <Morrolan> Running it from the console, then? Do you get any errors in there?
#819 [14:19] <othrguy> yes from the console, no wrrors though. it usually outputs a series of lines while running the game, now nothing
#820 [14:20] <Morrolan> It worked before?
#821 [14:21] <othrguy> no not in this setup, i formated couple of hours ago, before format was working properly
#822 [14:21] <Morrolan> Ah. What version of Java are you using? OpenJDK is said to cause issues every now and then.
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#825 [14:22] <othrguy> yea i noticed, i uninstalled openjdk and currently running Sun, still the problem wasnt fixed although it improved a bit
#826 [14:23] <Morrolan> Hmph, great. Tried Java 6, as well as 7?
#827 [14:24] <othrguy> u mean i should downgrade?
#828 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> indeed, Java 1.6 is more compatible than 1.7
#829 [14:25] <Morrolan> It's worth a try.
#830 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> also, 1.7 has a nasty security hole
#831 [14:25] <Morrolan> Should be able to just run several versions in parallel.
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#833 [14:27] <othrguy> TBH before format i was running 1.7.0_9 and it worked fine, u still think i should try to change the version? I am asking as to eliminate any other options as the installation of new JRE can be quite a bother
#834 [14:27] <Morrolan> Shouldn't be much hassle on Linux.
#835 [14:28] <Morrolan> Apart from that, without any output whatsoever in the console, there isn't much I can think of. :)
#836 [14:29] <othrguy> alright, i will give it a try. if it wont work i ll speak to u again. thanks a lot for ur help guys. keep up the good work :D
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#852 [15:01] <worldmc> h
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#862 [15:20] <greg_> Cannot play host multiplayer on kindle fire. can join game from kindle fire to iPad, but cannot from kindle fire to kindle fire. on same WiFi set up for all 3.
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#864 [15:21] <Helloman892|TF2> This is Minecraft PE, correct?
#865 [15:21] <Helloman892|TF2> If so... I have no idea.
#866 [15:21] <greg_> yes
#867 [15:22] <Helloman892|TF2> Oh, wait.
#868 [15:22] <NinjaKirby> I didn't even realise modern Kindle's could handle Minecraft, lerdie
#869 [15:22] <Helloman892|TF2> This is the same Wi-Fi connection?
#870 [15:22] <greg_> yes
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#872 [15:22] <Helloman892|TF2> If I remember rightly, they cannot connect to eachother due to being on the same IP.
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#874 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> That can't happen
#875 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> Androids are odd and confusing, don't ask me.
#876 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> GreyVulpine, what can't happen?
#877 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Each device on a network has a distinct IP address.
#878 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> I know.
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#880 [15:23] <greg_> they have different up
#881 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> There can be no ip conflict like what you describe.
#882 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> As said: Don't ask me.
#883 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> I know nothing about MC PE.
#884 [15:23] <Helloman892|TF2> Alright, I'm wrong.
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#886 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Regardless, good on ya for chiming in Helloman
#887 [15:24] <Erica> I just redeemed my prepaid card to buy the game and now can not download the launcher. Already disabled my AVG and checked my host files.
#888 [15:25] <greg_> any ideas?
#889 [15:25] <Erica> Any ideas
#890 [15:25] <Helloman892|TF2> Erica; Can not download the launcher? What happens when you try?
#891 [15:25] <Erica> I am using Chrome and I just get a black screen.
#892 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Sorry greg_, not many here know how to troubleshoot PE
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#894 [15:25] <Helloman892|TF2> ... Erica, a black screen where? In Chrome?
#895 [15:26] <Helloman892|TF2> www.minecraft.net/download
#896 [15:26] <Erica> I click on run and then an additional screen pops up for Minecraft and that screen is black.
#897 [15:26] <Helloman892|TF2> Ah, don't click run. That may be it.
#898 [15:26] <Helloman892|TF2> Save it.
#899 [15:26] <Erica> II will try that.
#900 [15:27] <Erica> Thanks for your help :)
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#902 [15:27] <Helloman892|TF2> Ah.
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#904 [15:27] <Helloman892|TF2> That feeling you get from successfully helping someone after you haven't for a while.
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#910 [15:30] <Maulss> Hey guys, do you know how to get in touch with the Mojang/Minecraft Team?
#911 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> ?? support
#912 [15:30] <Maulss> Yeah.
#913 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> er
#914 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#916 [15:30] <Erica> Back again. INow that I have purchased the game I am unable to download it. My Chrome will not allow it and my IE says it can not download.
#917 [15:30] <Helloman892> Ok.
#918 [15:30] <Maulss> I tried emailing support@mojang.com, I'm waiting for a response for more than a month now.
#919 [15:30] <Erica> I have already tried to disable my AVG and cleared my host files.
#920 [15:30] <Maulss> And Grey, tried that too.
#921 [15:31] <Helloman892> Fair enough.
#922 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Maulss - Did you read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#923 [15:31] <Helloman892> Erica; Could be a bad Java installation.
#924 [15:31] <DiskDaemon> Erica: This may be relevant
#925 [15:31] <Helloman892> ?? java
#926 [15:31] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#927 [15:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/ie/underscore
#928 [15:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/ie/underscores
#929 [15:31] <VoxelHead> win/ie/underscores: If IE keeps changing file extension delimeters to underscores on you, here is some relevant reading: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#930 [15:31] <Erica> I just updated my Java last week.
#931 [15:32] <Helloman892> That version of Java is as a general rule is compatible with Minecraft.
#932 [15:32] <Maulss> Well they said they will be answering in around 1 or 2 Business days.
#933 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Maulss - They don't
#934 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Maulss - They're actually very very behind in support emails
#935 [15:32] <Erica> Should I remove it and download a new one?
#936 [15:32] <Helloman892> Erica; JRE7 is known to cause bugs within Minecraft.
#937 [15:32] <Maulss> Well I've waited for around 4 weeks, should I keep waiting?
#938 [15:32] <DiskDaemon> Maulss: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#939 [15:32] <Erica> I did read that so I should remove it?
#940 [15:32] <DiskDaemon> Erica: What happens when you attempt to download it with Internet Explorer?
#941 [15:33] <Helloman892> ^
#942 [15:33] <Erica> When I try to download frmo IE it does allow me to save the file but then tells me it can not download.
#943 [15:33] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon, Erica has tried Chrome as well.
#944 [15:33] <Erica> Makes me think something is hanging it up.
#945 [15:33] <DiskDaemon> Erica: What is the filename that Internet Explorer tries to save it as?
#946 [15:34] <Maulss> GreyVulpine, should I keep waiting? Because maybe it's tough to help people in New Year/Christmas season?
#947 [15:34] <Helloman892> Erica; This appears to be a internet problem, rather than a Java or browser problem.
#948 [15:34] <Erica> File save is s3>amazon.com
#949 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Maulss - I'd continue waiting for a response if you've contacted them through the support form link
#950 [15:34] <DiskDaemon> Wow, that's very different from what it should be. Can you give us a screenshot?
#951 [15:34] <Maulss> Alright, thanks.
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#953 [15:35] <Erica> A screenshot of the file name
#954 [15:35] <Erica> ?
#955 [15:35] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#956 [15:36] <Helloman892> A screenshot of the download prompt that appears when you try to download it would be nice as well.
#957 [15:37] <Erica> Sorry not technical, how do I do that?
#958 [15:37] <Helloman892> Time to remember.
#959 [15:37] <Erica> :)
#960 [15:38] <Helloman892> There's a long way around that involves pasting into a MS Word file, but that's just boring.
#961 [15:38] <Helloman892> And a pain.
#962 [15:38] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#963 [15:39] <Erica> Thanks. I will do it now :)
#964 [15:39] <Helloman892> This is dependent on OS.
#965 [15:39] <DiskDaemon> Yes it is - fortunately we know that this person is on Windows
#966 [15:40] <Helloman892> True.
#967 [15:40] <Helloman892> Yet we do not know that this person is on Windows 7 HP+.
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#969 [15:41] <DiskDaemon> That's fine, there are a variety of instructions there
#970 [15:41] <Helloman892> I know.
#971 [15:41] <Morrolan> He's on Windows 7 (or Windows Server 2008)
#972 [15:41] <Helloman892> Wait a second, why are we having this conversation?
#973 [15:41] <DiskDaemon> *shrug*
#974 [15:41] <Helloman892> Morrolan, tell me how you determined 'his' gender, lol.
#975 [15:42] <worldmc> lol
#976 [15:42] <Morrolan> I did not. I just went with probability. :)
#977 [15:42] <DiskDaemon> Because there are no girls on the internet?
#978 [15:42] <Helloman892> Lie.
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#980 [15:42] <Helloman892> My girlfriend is almost on the internet as much as me.
#981 [15:42] <DiskDaemon> It's a meme - http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-are-no-girls-on-the-internet
#982 [15:42] <iStarreh> How do i get minecraft to play
#983 [15:42] <Helloman892> I know it's a meme.
#984 [15:43] <iStarreh> it says unexpected error
#985 [15:43] <worldmc> lol
#986 [15:43] <iStarreh> here's the folder
#987 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> iStarreh - By ensuring java is installed, buying the game, then installing the launcher via www.minecraft.net/download
#988 [15:43] <Helloman892> What he said.
#989 [15:43] <iStarreh> Already did ALL THAT
#990 [15:43] <iStarreh> sorry caps
#991 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> iStarreh - Could you give us the full text of the error via www.pastebin.com and give us the URL?
#992 [15:43] <iStarreh> i gots all of it
#993 [15:43] <DiskDaemon> iStarreh: DO you have a crash report?
#994 [15:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> iStarreh pastebin
#995 [15:43] <VoxelHead> iStarreh: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#996 [15:44] <iStarreh> i did
#997 [15:44] <iStarreh> here
#998 [15:44] <iStarreh> http://pastebin.com/cdxjrfyt
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#1000 [15:45] <Helloman892> Impressive...
#1001 [15:45] <iStarreh> so, what's wrong?
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#1003 [15:45] <DiskDaemon> iStarreh: When does that occur?
#1004 [15:45] <iStarreh> anytime i try multiplayer
#1005 [15:45] <greg_> Cannot join game from kindle fire to kindle fire . any ideas?
#1006 [15:45] <iStarreh> it goes on for one sec, then poofs
#1007 [15:45] <DiskDaemon> iStarreh: When you load a world?
#1008 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> iStarreh - Modded?
#1009 [15:46] <iStarreh> yes, and n
#1010 [15:46] <iStarreh> otno
#1011 [15:46] <iStarreh> tno
#1012 [15:46] <worldmc> greg_
#1013 [15:46] <iStarreh> not modded
#1014 [15:46] <Helloman892> greg_; Like we told you before, not many of us can troubleshoot Minecraft PE.
#1015 [15:46] <DiskDaemon> ?? save/null
#1016 [15:46] <VoxelHead> save/null: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1017 [15:46] <VoxelHead> save/null: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#1018 [15:46] <worldmc> you been here tonihgt aswell
#1019 [15:46] <iStarreh> there are mods
#1020 [15:46] <Erica> Still here but having trouble getting back on minecraft server. Says it is working too hard. LOL
#1021 [15:46] <iStarreh> but as in the people
#1022 [15:46] <iStarreh> not the software
#1023 [15:46] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, mods. We don't deal with mods here.
#1024 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Not modded, moderators.
#1025 [15:46] <iStarreh> not the problem
#1026 [15:46] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Mods, moderators, not modifications. :P
#1027 [15:46] <iStarreh> yes
#1028 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> perhaps using some sort of texture pack?
#1029 [15:47] <iStarreh> exactly right
#1030 [15:47] <iStarreh> the server does
#1031 [15:47] <iStarreh> it works on my laptop
#1032 [15:47] <Helloman892> Erica; So your launcher is working now?
#1033 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you turn it back to default and try it without a custom texture pack?
#1034 [15:47] <iStarreh> i can't
#1035 [15:47] <iStarreh> twhen yo load the server,
#1036 [15:47] <iStarreh> *you
#1037 [15:48] <Erica> No. I had logged off. I tried to log back into minecraft.net and it tells me that it is working too hard and try back later.
#1038 [15:48] <iStarreh> it automatically loads it
#1039 [15:48] <Helloman892> Well, do what it says.
#1040 [15:49] <Helloman892> Erica; Besides, you don't need to login to minecraft.net to download the launcher.
#1041 [15:49] <DiskDaemon> iStarreh: Move the world folder to a different location, and see if you can start the server without crashing
#1042 [15:49] <DiskDaemon> iStarreh: If you can do that, then we have narrowed down the problem to somewhere in the save, for which there are certain solutions
#1043 [15:49] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - CHances are he doesn't have access to the server.
#1044 [15:49] <Morrolan> Else he could just disable the server-sided texture pack.
#1045 [15:50] <Helloman892> Erica; I gotta feeling that minecraft.net is down at the moment.
#1046 [15:50] <Morrolan> iStarreh - You might want to ask the admin to move your player.dat file out of the world folder. This'll make you respawn, with an empty inventory, at the spawn.
#1047 [15:50] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out. iStarreh: Are you connecting to someone else's multiplayer server, starting your own server, or something else?
#1048 [15:50] <Erica> I was able to log in and am trying the download again now.
#1049 [15:50] <Morrolan> iStarreh - If that works, then it's either your inventory, or the position where you're at which is messed up.
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#1051 [15:51] <Helloman892> iStarreh; If not, disable server-side textures in the options.
#1052 [15:51] <Erica> Once I have the screen shot can I paste it on here?
#1053 [15:51] <Helloman892> No, you can't.
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#1055 [15:51] <Morrolan> Erica - Gotta upload it to imgur.com or the like.
#1056 [15:51] <Helloman892> However, you can upload it to Imgur.
#1057 [15:51] <Morrolan> (Dropbox would work too)
#1058 [15:51] <Helloman892> ^
#1059 [15:51] <Helloman892> That too.
#1060 [15:52] <Erica> Any special heading or tag?
#1061 [15:53] <Morrolan> Nah, as long as you provide us with the link, it won't matter what you call it.
#1062 [15:54] <Erica> Done. http://imgur.com/Dzyzv
#1063 [15:55] <Erica> I hope this is what you need :)
#1064 [15:55] <Erica> Testing my minimal computer skills today.
#1065 [15:55] <Helloman892> That is the correct filename.
#1066 [15:55] <Helloman892> The 's3.amazonaws.com' is the website.
#1067 [15:56] <Erica> Besides the AVG, firewall and possible host file issue what could be hanging up the download?
#1068 [15:56] <Helloman892> No clue.
#1069 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Check that filename again
#1070 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft_exe?
#1071 [15:57] <Helloman892> Damn.
#1072 [15:57] <Helloman892> I missed that.
#1073 [15:57] <Helloman892> Well done, Grey.
#1074 [15:57] <Erica> I get to the save option and then IE tells me Minecraft_exe could not be downloaded.
#1075 [15:57] <Helloman892> That's because it isn't Minecraft_exe.
#1076 [15:57] <Helloman892> It's Minecraft/DOT/exe.
#1077 [15:58] <DiskDaemon> That's this issue
#1078 [15:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/ie/underscores
#1079 [15:58] <VoxelHead> win/ie/underscores: If IE keeps changing file extension delimeters to underscores on you, here is some relevant reading: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2549423
#1080 [15:58] <Helloman892> It is indeed.
#1081 [15:58] <DiskDaemon> I mentioned it first-off when she first mentioned the problem.
#1082 [15:58] <Erica> Okay I will check this out.
#1083 [15:58] <Helloman892> Indeed you did.
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#1085 [15:59] <NinjaKirby> I can confirm Helloman892 acknowledged DiskDaemon's contribution earlier directed towards Erica
#1086 [15:59] <Helloman892> Lol, Kirby.
#1087 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Suddenly, a ninja.
#1088 [15:59] <Helloman892> Indeed.
#1089 [16:00] <DiskDaemon> I recognise the confirmation of the acknowledgement of my contribution earlier on towards Erica
#1090 [16:00] <Helloman892> I love that powerup in Squeak Squad, lulz.
#1091 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> I'm amazed I'm not banned, I kinda don't assist much.
#1092 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> I come in here outta habit.
#1093 [16:00] <Helloman892> Why'd you get banned, I haven't, and I haven't joined for the past 6 months.
#1094 [16:00] <pusur44017> I have a problem with connecting to any minecraft servers. is there anyone else who have experienced this problem or have a soluiton?
#1095 [16:01] <Helloman892> pusur44017; Can you give us any specifics, errors and the like?
#1096 [16:01] <pusur44017> for peremium: cant reach server
#1097 [16:01] <pusur44017> even though I know they are on
#1098 [16:01] <pusur44017> uopn trying to connect anyways, I get
#1099 [16:01] <DiskDaemon> Whcih one do you know is on?
#1100 [16:01] <pusur44017> connection timed out:connect
#1101 [16:01] <Helloman892> Is the Minecraft port (25565) blocked?
#1102 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> IP?
#1103 [16:02] <pusur44017> the server I am trying to connect to
#1104 [16:02] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: Which server are you trying to connect to?
#1105 [16:02] <Helloman892> Can you connect to any other servers, and- What Daemon and Grey said lulz.
#1106 [16:02] <pusur44017> this is a creative server based in Ireland and a survival server based in Dallas
#1107 [16:02] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: Specifics, please.
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#1109 [16:03] <Helloman892> The IP address, for example.
#1110 [16:03] <DiskDaemon> Or the domain name
#1111 [16:03] <pusur44017> why do you need it?
#1112 [16:03] <pusur44017> .org I belive?
#1113 [16:03] <DiskDaemon> So that we may check and confirm whether they are up or not
#1114 [16:03] <Helloman892> Just give to us, damnit.
#1115 [16:03] <Helloman892> Lulz.
#1116 [16:04] <pusur44017> wbren4q.dyndns.org
#1117 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: Also, you have come here complaining that you can't get on there. So it helps if we can check things out
#1118 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> !check wbren4q.dyndns.org
#1119 [16:04] <pusur44017> bren4q*
#1120 [16:04] <Helloman892> !check bren4q.dyndns.org
#1121 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: That one doesn't look to be active right now.
#1122 [16:04] <pusur44017> true
#1123 [16:04] <Helloman892> Read, Daemon, damnit.
#1124 [16:05] <DiskDaemon> Helloman892: If I could travel through time, that would be relevant
#1125 [16:05] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon> pusur44017: That one doesn't look to be active right now.
#1126 [16:05] <Helloman892> It is relevant. Anyways...
#1127 [16:06] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: So what details do you ahve about the error or issue that occurs?
#1128 [16:06] <Helloman892> Apparently, the connection timed out.
#1129 [16:06] <DiskDaemon> If it times out then it's most likely due to a slow networking connection
#1130 [16:07] <Helloman892> Apparently listening to dubstep helps my typing [/musingsofa13yearold]
#1131 [16:07] <pusur44017> sigh well this problem comes to me every once in a while, I cant get a solution form the mojang support and online it says portforward 25565
#1132 [16:07] <Erica> Hey guys apparently that was the problem with starting the download. Thanks for the tip.
#1133 [16:07] <pusur44017> I have tried portforwarding
#1134 [16:07] <Helloman892> No worries, Erica.
#1135 [16:07] <pusur44017> even though I dont seem to get it right
#1136 [16:07] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: Port forwarding will solve nothing for you. That's only for if you are running your own server
#1137 [16:07] <Helloman892> Portforwarding can be tricky affair, and is also irrelvant.
#1138 [16:07] <pusur44017> but I cant see why I would have to od it because minecraft has worked without it before
#1139 [16:07] <Helloman892> irrelevant*
#1140 [16:08] <Erica> Problem is now that I get past the download screen, and logged in I am getting another screen that pops up with Minecraft in the left corner but black everywhere else.
#1141 [16:08] <Helloman892> Erica; This is either a vcard issue or something went wrong.
#1142 [16:08] <pusur44017> well as you say, if portforward is irrelevant to this error
#1143 [16:08] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: You don't have to port forward. Port forwarding is for people hosting their own server. Port forwarding is not relevant for you. It doesn't do anything to help you
#1144 [16:09] <Erica> I need a new video card?
#1145 [16:09] <Helloman892> I meant vcard drivers.
#1146 [16:09] <Helloman892> Are they up to date?
#1147 [16:09] <pusur44017> then its a root problem with either the information minecraft stores on my computer or the account of mine
#1148 [16:09] <Erica> How can I verify this?
#1149 [16:10] <Helloman892> And more importantly; What brand is your vcard?
#1150 [16:10] <Helloman892> Verification depends on the make.
#1151 [16:10] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: The only involvement that Mojang has is to confirm with the server that your account is valid. That's it
#1152 [16:11] <pusur44017> any suggestions to try?
#1153 [16:11] <DiskDaemon> Try different server that you're not timing out to?
#1154 [16:11] <Helloman892> 'latency to me is about 1658ms' This makes me think that this server is incredibly slow.
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#1157 [16:12] <Helloman892> That's lag of 16 seconds.
#1158 [16:12] <Helloman892> And that's a lot.
#1159 [16:12] <DiskDaemon> Helloman892: It's always slow with the bot
#1160 [16:12] <pusur44017_> sorry lost connection
#1161 [16:12] <Helloman892> Orly? I really am behind the times.
#1162 [16:12] <pusur44017_> lost evey thing after erica with the vcard
#1163 [16:12] <Erica> I have an Intel G45/G43 Express Chipset
#1164 [16:12] <Morrolan> The bot is just at the other end of the world, probably.
#1165 [16:12] <Morrolan> !check s.nerd.nu
#1166 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1167 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> !check Morrolan
#1168 [16:12] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#1169 [16:12] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: I suggest that you try different server that you're not timing out to
#1170 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> AuBot is a laggy bot today
#1171 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> !check Morrolan
#1172 [16:13] <Helloman892> Erica; Are you using a laptop?
#1173 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah told you
#1174 [16:13] <Erica> No Dell PC
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#1176 [16:13] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1177 [16:13] <pusur44017_> daemon no, this problem is for every single server in the world of minecraft exept my own LANs and localhosts
#1178 [16:13] <Helloman892> Intel doesn't like Minecraft, but that's generally only a rule with integrated vcards.
#1179 [16:14] <Erica> So I should update my video card.
#1180 [16:14] <Tayden> I am having issues with turning my server off and on. I have to keep resetting the whole thing any one know what im doing wrong
#1181 [16:14] <Helloman892> That would be the expensive option, Erica.
#1182 [16:14] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: Check if your security software is causing the problem by temporarily disabling your security software. That's antivirus and firewalls.
#1183 [16:14] <pusur44017_> will do, brb
#1184 [16:14] <Helloman892> Tayden; Are you hosting the server yourself, or via a server hosting site?
#1185 [16:15] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: I don't intend for you to always have them down, but to find out if they're causing the problem so that a solution can be applied to make them not a problem
#1186 [16:15] <Tayden> i'm hosting
#1187 [16:15] <Helloman892> Tayden; What exactly happens when you /stop your server?
#1188 [16:16] <Erica> I disabled my AVG and my Windows firewall.
#1189 [16:16] <Erica> Is there any other option besides updating my vcard?
#1190 [16:17] <Helloman892> Erica; We haven't determined any other possible errors yet.
#1191 [16:17] <Tayden> the dos screen keeps disappearing when I hit run and wont let me continue
#1192 [16:17] <Erica> I am able to play the demo on my Chrome with no errors.
#1193 [16:17] <pusur44017_> Using Norton and deactivate everything that should have an impact on it, did not work
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#1195 [16:17] <Helloman892> Tayden; Is this a Bukkit server?
#1196 [16:17] <Helloman892> Erica; One second.
#1197 [16:17] <Tayden> yes it is
#1198 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: right, enable things again then. It seems clear that something on your machine is preventing you communicating out, but what that may be is a mystery for now
#1199 [16:18] <pusur44017_> but I cannot undersant what on my side that should cause it because it has worked before. Yes its a bukkit server
#1200 [16:18] <Helloman892> Tayden; Bukkit isn't supported here, this channel is for non-modified releases only.
#1201 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> Dammit, it's bukkit.
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#1203 [16:18] <pusur44017_> anything with hamachi?
#1204 [16:18] <Tayden> oh ok ty
#1205 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: We don't deal with mods here. Neither mods ont he client, or modded servers.
#1206 [16:18] <Helloman892> Tayden; Try /j #bukkit.
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#1208 [16:18] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: Please take it to #bukkit or #bukkithelp
#1209 [16:19] <pusur44017_> I am sure it's not bukkit
#1210 [16:19] <Helloman892> pusur44017_: Most servers nowadays a Bukkit.
#1211 [16:19] <Helloman892> pusur44017_: Are there any mods or plugins installed on the server?
#1212 [16:19] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: While modded situations are in place, we do not perform troubleshooting for them. There are too many complexities that are in place.
#1213 [16:19] <pusur44017_> but is it possible my communication blockage has something to do with hamachi?
#1214 [16:20] <Helloman892> Hamachi is a possible error.
#1215 [16:20] <Selbram> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1216 [16:20] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. Concordantly, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1217 [16:20] <pusur44017_> no, the server is bukkit but the problem is not because of it
#1218 [16:20] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1219 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> In other words, hamachi is most definately harming things
#1220 [16:20] <Helloman892> Erica; Sorry to keep you waiting, it appears that your vcard is fine if you can play Classic in-browser.
#1221 [16:21] <pusur44017_> hmm..dang it, why should it cause me problem now then? and not before?
#1222 [16:21] <Morrolan> Classic has much much much much lower requirements than the current version.
#1223 [16:21] <Helloman892> Morrolan; I know, but most vcard issues are caused by bad OpenGL support.
#1224 [16:21] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: Don't know, but while you continue to use bukkit and/or hamachi, help is going to be virtually impossible to obtain from here. Please take it to #bukkit or #bukkithelp instead
#1225 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> ??> pusur44017_ mods
#1226 [16:22] <VoxelHead> pusur44017_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1227 [16:22] <VoxelHead> pusur44017_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1228 [16:22] <pusur44017_> ok, thanks everyone
#1229 [16:22] <Erica> I did not purchase classic, but I played the demo online fine.
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#1231 [16:22] <Helloman892> I have experience with Bukkit, but I am no good with support.
#1232 [16:22] <Helloman892> And Classic costs nothing.
#1233 [16:22] <Helloman892> The only online version is Classic.
#1234 [16:22] <Morrolan> There's a demo version too, Helloman892. :)
#1235 [16:22] <Helloman892> IRC.
#1236 [16:22] <Helloman892> IIRC*
#1237 [16:22] <Morrolan> (Three or four versions behind the current version of MC)
#1238 [16:23] <Helloman892> Which I don't.
#1239 [16:23] <Helloman892> Anyways, the vcard reqs are the same as the current version (1.4.7) if it's only that far behind.
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#1241 [16:24] <Helloman892> http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/Requirements/minecraft/
#1242 [16:24] <Helloman892> I do believe that link will show if you can run MC.
#1243 [16:25] <Helloman892> No, I lie.
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#1245 [16:25] <Helloman892> It should be easy enough to find Mineraft, though.
#1246 [16:25] <Helloman892> Minecraft*
#1247 [16:25] <Erica> So my vcard is fine, I have disabled my AVG and suspended my Windows firewall. Now am able to download and save file, it tells me that is is not a trusted site. I click run anyway and get a the Minecraft pop up screen and it tells me "loading". Then black screen.
#1248 [16:25] <Helloman892> Hmm.
#1249 [16:26] <Helloman892> This may be the Java I was talking about.
#1250 [16:26] <Helloman892> ?? java/1.7
#1251 [16:26] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Please note that Java 7 is known to be imcompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Unless otherwise required by a helper, please use Java 6 instead. See ?? java/1.6
#1252 [16:26] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: You can get Java 1.7 for almost any platform here: http://is.gd/mc_j7
#1253 [16:26] <Morrolan> Actually, I correct myself, the current demo version is the most recent version. It's just limited to 100 minutes of playtime.
#1254 [16:26] <Helloman892> ?? java/1.6
#1255 [16:26] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: To get the current version of Java 1.6 for nearly any platform, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1256 [16:26] <Helloman892> And there you are.
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#1258 [16:26] <Helloman892> One would assume that you (Erica) have Java 1.7.
#1259 [16:27] <Helloman892> Oh dear, CYRI has got it all wrong in my case.
#1260 [16:27] <Erica> My Java is Version 7 Update 10
#1261 [16:27] <Helloman892> ?? javare
#1262 [16:27] <Helloman892> Lol, fail.
#1263 [16:28] <Helloman892> Someone give me a hand, the d/l link for JavaRE?
#1264 [16:28] <NinjaKirby> java/jre/6 ?
#1265 [16:28] <Morrolan> Javara, but why not just try to remove it the old-fashioned way before using a nuke?
#1266 [16:29] <Helloman892> Ra, that's the one
#1267 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/javara
#1268 [16:29] <Helloman892> Cheers, Daemon
#1269 [16:29] <Wug> oh dear whats going on here
#1270 [16:29] <Helloman892> Yo, Wug.
#1271 [16:29] <NinjaKirby> lol Wug
#1272 [16:29] <Morrolan> Removing a working Java installation with JavaRA is like removing Word by formatting your HDD.
#1273 [16:29] <Helloman892> True.
#1274 [16:29] <Wug> ^
#1275 [16:29] <Helloman892> That's why I do it 8D
#1276 [16:29] <NinjaKirby> Brute Force
#1277 [16:29] <Wug> its much easier to remove them by tricking the system into thinking its not installed and then installing it
#1278 [16:30] <Wug> and then uninstalling it
#1279 [16:30] <Wug> its a lot less brutal.
#1280 [16:30] <Helloman892> Wug, we have to assume that this user has minimum technical experience.
#1281 [16:30] <Morrolan> Or, while they're not messed up, just using the uninstaller.
#1282 [16:30] <Erica> So I should remove my Java?
#1283 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> Helloman892: If they have minimum technical experience, then using javara can be quite tricky for them too
#1284 [16:31] <Helloman892> Correct, and the install JRE 1.6 via this link: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1285 [16:31] <Wug> hang on, let me read back a bit and figure out whats going on
#1286 [16:31] <Wug> Erica: before you do
#1287 [16:31] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon; True, but at least it has a GUI.
#1288 [16:31] <Wug> your windows username doesnt have a ! in it, does it?
#1289 [16:31] <Helloman892> ... I doubt it.
#1290 [16:31] <Wug> I dont
#1291 [16:32] <Morrolan> Doubt has been the doom of many a good man!
#1292 [16:32] <Helloman892> How can you determine that, though?
#1293 [16:32] <NinjaKirby> Assumption is the mother of all fudgeups
#1294 [16:32] <DiskDaemon> Do we have a crash report from Erica?
#1295 [16:32] <Wug> well, its not just the username
#1296 [16:32] <Helloman892> The old /!/ bug has existed forever
#1297 [16:32] <Wug> its the user profile folder name
#1298 [16:32] <Morrolan> Helloman892 - Asking, %userprofile%, all kinds of crash reports.
#1299 [16:33] <Wug> Erica: can you please give us the full folder name of your desktop
#1300 [16:33] <Wug> or the full name of anything on it
#1301 [16:33] <Wug> just right click anything -> properties
#1302 [16:33] <Wug> then copy the full name
#1303 [16:33] <Helloman892> Morrolan; I was asking Wug, considering he didn't read much.
#1304 [16:33] <Wug> should be C:\Users\<your username>\Desktop\something
#1305 [16:33] <Helloman892> ARGLEBLARGLE
#1306 [16:33] <Helloman892> THE DUBSTEP
#1307 [16:34] <Helloman892> IT HURTS
#1308 [16:34] <Helloman892> ... Carry on.
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#1310 [16:34] <Wug> <Helloman892> How can you determine that, though?
#1311 [16:34] <Helloman892> Lol, MCHelp instead of #minecraft
#1312 [16:34] <Wug> i've been here a while
#1313 [16:34] <Helloman892> I know.
#1314 [16:34] <Wug> like, a long while
#1315 [16:34] <Helloman892> That's how you managed to get OP.
#1316 [16:34] <Morrolan> No, that was because of the payment.
#1317 [16:35] <Helloman892> Uh-huh.
#1318 [16:35] <Wug> send all checks to GreyBot's Vacation Fund
#1319 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> Over Powered, from all his Levelling days in here.
#1320 [16:35] <Helloman892> ... Confusion.
#1321 [16:35] <Helloman892> Shall we continue aiding Erica?
#1322 [16:35] <Wug> we're being silly
#1323 [16:35] <Wug> Erica: still waiting on that filename
#1324 [16:35] <DiskDaemon> Helloman892: Here, have some swing instead https://soundcloud.com/tallulahgoodtimes/swangyothang2
#1325 [16:36] <Morrolan> Silly? Yea, probably.
#1326 [16:36] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: Na, I got to the power metal.
#1327 [16:36] <Morrolan> Then again, nothing wrong with that. :D
#1328 [16:36] <Helloman892> Morrolan: Last time I messed around, some guy with a username beginning with 'b' kicked me for spam.
#1329 [16:36] * Wug types b[tab]
#1329 [16:37] <Wug> BILDRAMER!
#1330 [16:37] <Wug> y u do dis
#1331 [16:37] <Erica> don't know
#1332 [16:37] <Helloman892> No.
#1333 [16:37] <Helloman892> It wasn't bildramer.
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#1335 [16:37] <Helloman892> They aren't online.
#1336 [16:37] <Helloman892> Bo... Bo-something.
#1337 [16:37] <Wug> boreeas?
#1338 [16:37] <Helloman892> Yeah, that's the one.
#1339 [16:37] <Wug> anyway
#1340 [16:37] <Morrolan> Probably earned it. :)
#1341 [16:37] <Helloman892> Lol, Morrolan.
#1342 [16:38] <pusur44017> well uninstalling hamachi didn't work. As expected any suggestions at all?
#1343 [16:38] <Wug> Erica: please check if your windows username has a ! in it
#1344 [16:38] <Wug> Erica: right click any file on the desktop and open properties, it should have the name in it, which will include the information we need
#1345 [16:38] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017: Yes, please take your bukkit connection issue to where you can gain help for it, from a bukkit channel that knows about bukkit issues
#1346 [16:38] <Wug> (the full name)
#1347 [16:38] <DiskDaemon> #bukkit or #bukkithelp
#1348 [16:39] <pusur44017> daemong this is not an issue on connection to bukkit servers in general this is all minecraft servers vanilla or bukkit or classic
#1349 [16:39] <Helloman892> Again, I ask: Is port 25565 closed?
#1350 [16:40] <Wug> pusur44017: hang on a second, ill get to you once Erica is sorted
#1351 [16:40] <Morrolan> What's your issue, anyway, pusur44017?
#1352 [16:40] <Wug> Helloman892: wouldn't matter if its a client
#1353 [16:40] <Wug> Erica: I'm going to pm you, its noisy in here
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#1356 [16:40] <pusur44017_> sorry lost it after I replied you daemon
#1357 [16:40] <Morrolan> What was your issue again, pusur44017?
#1358 [16:40] <Wug> pusur44017_: hang on a second, ill get to you once Erica is sorted
#1359 [16:41] <Helloman892> Wug: Yes, it would. If 25565 was closed, you couldn't access a standard MC server.
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#1361 [16:41] <pusur44017_> ok, thanks
#1362 [16:41] <DiskDaemon> pusur44017_: I have to head off shortly. Others here will get you you soon
#1363 [16:41] <pusur44017_> thanks
#1364 [16:41] <Wug> Helloman892: no. ports only have to be open for serving.
#1365 [16:41] <Helloman892> Wug: Wow, that blew my understanding of IPv4 out of the window.
#1366 [16:41] <Wug> your outward connection will use a random port anyway (these ports are typically reserved for outgoing connections)
#1367 [16:41] <Wug> each endpoint has a port
#1368 [16:42] <Erica> No I had previously seen this in the forums and there is no symbol in it.
#1369 [16:42] <Wug> Erica: you try to play minecraft in firefox correct? and its never worked in browser before?
#1370 [16:42] <Helloman892> Wug: I know.
#1371 [16:42] <Helloman892> Wug: Erica uses Chrome.
#1372 [16:43] <Wug> herp
#1373 [16:43] <Erica> I playI play on Google Chrome.
#1374 [16:43] <Erica> The demo anyway.
#1375 [16:43] <pusur44017_> *test*
#1376 [16:43] <Wug> I read mozilla and stopped there
#1377 [16:43] <Helloman892> What, because all Mozilla browsers are derpy?
#1378 [16:43] <Wug> Erica: have you tried the download version? has that worked?
#1379 [16:43] <Helloman892> Wug: We've been through this....
#1380 [16:44] <Wug> Helloman892: because the version string is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/23.0.1271.97 Safari/537.11
#1381 [16:44] <Helloman892> I see.
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#1383 [16:44] <Helloman892> Wug: Erica has been trying the client.
#1384 [16:44] <Wug> Erica: if you download teamviewer I'll sort you out. But first, respond to my private message.
#1385 [16:44] <Erica> Once I purchased it today, I tried to download it by Chrome, It opens another window and it says "loading" then a black screen.
#1386 [16:45] <Wug> maybe its relevant knowledge
#1387 [16:45] <Wug> but no, that stops the download partway through
#1388 [16:46] <Wug> Erica: please download teamviewer, and I'll look at it directly
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#1392 [16:46] <Wug> Please get the latest version (version 8)
#1393 [16:46] <Wug> Erica: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/currentversion.aspx
#1394 [16:47] <Selbram> just use join.me
#1395 [16:47] <Erica> I will download it now.
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#1398 [16:48] <pusur44017> *testing if I just lost connection*
#1399 [16:48] <Wug> pusur44017: still here
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#1401 [16:48] <DiskDaemon> This constant connection trouble just to IRC, seems to indicate that there are worse connection issues that you're facing when connecting to minecraft servers
#1402 [16:49] <pusur44017> yeah, I know but somtimes I lost connection and can't send or recive messages
#1403 [16:49] <Morrolan> You know, with your connection I wouldn't be astonished if the whole issue was that, when under load, your connection dies. ;)
#1404 [16:49] <pusur44017> lose*
#1405 [16:49] <Wug> pusur44017: are you using a laptop with wireless? try a wired connection?
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#1408 [16:50] <pusur44017_> just lost it XD
#1409 [16:50] <pusur44017_> anyways
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#1411 [16:51] <Wug> pusur44017: are you using a laptop with wireless? try a wired connection?
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#1415 [16:52] <pusur44017> ****ing hell
#1416 [16:52] <pusur44017> I am usign wired
#1417 [16:53] <pusur44017> I think it would be wierd if my connection
#1418 [16:53] <pusur44017> went down
#1419 [16:53] <Helloman892> Your internet connection must be very, very bad.
#1420 [16:53] <pusur44017> every time I connected to a server
#1421 [16:53] <pusur44017> no, honestly its not
#1422 [16:53] <pusur44017> really
#1423 [16:53] <Morrolan> Uh, whenever you connect to a server your internet connection dies? And when you do not, it stays up reliably?
#1424 [16:54] <Morrolan> I've seen that before, once or twice.
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#1426 [16:54] <pusur44017> its like 86% better than average in my country
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#1430 [16:54] <pusur44017> oh really?
#1431 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Speed and latency are different
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#1433 [16:54] <pusur44017> and then it last for a few weeks and then its ok again?
#1434 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> You may have the fastest speed, but if your ISP drops you, all the speed doesn't do you any good if you can't maintain a reliable connection
#1435 [16:55] <pusur44017> ok, well as far as I can see it is reliable
#1436 [16:56] <pusur44017> I have a family memeber on a laptop with facebook constantly loading pages
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#1438 [16:56] <pusur44017_> well this makes a fool of me: lost it after "a family meber"
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#1440 [16:58] <pusur44017__> holy crap
#1441 [16:58] <pusur44017__> pusur44017_but honestly my connection is stable
#1442 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. I don't think your network connection's stable at the moment. IRC's not a bandwidth intensive process, but it does require a pretty constant connection to maintain communications.
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#1444 [16:59] <Wug> erica's natives folder was missing, force updating fixed it
#1445 [16:59] <pusur44017___> help
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#1447 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> pusur44017_ - Yeah.. I don't think your network connection's stable at the moment. IRC's not a bandwidth intensive process, but it does require a pretty constant connection to maintain communications.
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#1449 [16:59] <pusur44017___> I am losing it and its because of the connection to the IRC site
#1450 [16:59] <Helloman892> So all along it was the natives folder.
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#1452 [17:00] <pusur44017___> but gray, this has been the case for a week now
#1453 [17:00] <pusur44017___> and well
#1454 [17:00] <pusur44017___> it is useually stable but lets say it isnt right now
#1455 [17:00] <pusur44017___> it is useually stable but lets say it isnt right now
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#1458 [17:01] <Wug> yep
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#1460 [17:01] <Wug> and all along, a force update would have fixed it
#1461 [17:01] <Wug> y u no try that first
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#1463 [17:01] <pusur44017> will try tomorrow, thanks and bye
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#1466 [17:02] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you're alove
#1467 [17:02] <Wug> alive*
#1468 [17:03] <Wug> I was just telling everyone to send all payments for channel op privileges to you^W^W^Wgreybots vacation fund
#1469 [17:03] <Helloman892|PKMN> Wug.
#1470 [17:03] <Helloman892|PKMN> No you weren't.
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#1475 [17:10] <Bugboy1028> Helloman892|PKMN, you like pokemone
#1476 [17:10] * Wug brains Bugboy1028 with a pokeball
#1476 [17:10] <Wug> YAY I CAUGHT ONE
#1477 [17:11] <Helloman892|PKMN> I do like Pokémon.
#1478 [17:11] <Bugboy1028> Nope
#1479 [17:11] <Helloman892|PKMN> I got bored of TF2 for one day.
#1480 [17:11] <Bugboy1028> Wug, you missed
#1481 [17:11] <Wug> 3 wiggles?
#1482 [17:12] <Bugboy1028> 2 wiggles
#1483 [17:12] <Helloman892|PKMN> 1 wiggle?
#1484 [17:12] * Wug throws a brick ball
#1484 [17:13] <Helloman892|PKMN> Good point, Wug.
#1485 [17:13] <Wug> Bugboy1028 faints and is caught
#1486 [17:13] <Helloman892|PKMN> Why don't they just chuck a brick before catching them?
#1487 [17:13] <Wug> because its not ok to teach little kids to throw bricks at animals
#1488 [17:13] <Helloman892|PKMN> But...
#1489 [17:13] <Morrolan> Considering that the Pokécenter is able to fix even the worst wounds, that's reasonable, yea.
#1490 [17:13] <Bugboy1028> Wug,
#1491 [17:14] <Helloman892|PKMN> My Lvl. 100 Serperior isn't an animal
#1492 [17:14] <Bugboy1028> 'yuo threw the ball at my decoy'
#1493 [17:14] <Helloman892|PKMN> :(
#1494 [17:14] <Helloman892|PKMN> Arg
#1495 [17:14] * Wug uses disable.
#1495 [17:14] <Helloman892|PKMN> I hate wild Decoy spammers
#1496 [17:14] <Helloman892|PKMN> The move failed!
#1497 [17:15] <Helloman892|PKMN> Me: YES, FINALLY!
#1498 [17:15] * Bugboy1028 Uses Steal
#1498 [17:15] <Helloman892|PKMN> BigDick used Razor Leaf!
#1499 [17:15] <Helloman892|PKMN> The wild Bronzor evaded the attack!
#1500 [17:15] <Helloman892|PKMN> Me: FUUUUUUU
#1501 [17:16] <Bugboy1028> btw , I'm Bug and Fire
#1502 [17:16] <Helloman892|PKMN> I'm Grass/Poison.
#1503 [17:16] <Helloman892|PKMN> VENUSAUR FOREVER
#1504 [17:16] * Wug uses ROCK AVALANCHE DESTRUCTION APOCALYPSE (power: 5000) on Bugboy1028!
#1504 [17:16] <Wug> I locked on first
#1505 [17:16] <Helloman892|PKMN> Lulz.
#1506 [17:17] <Helloman892|PKMN> One problem
#1507 [17:17] * Helloman892|PKMN inturrupted Wug in his ROCK AVALANCHE DESTRUCTION APOCALYPSE with Toxic!
#1507 [17:18] <Helloman892|PKMN> Wug took damage from poisoning!
#1508 [17:18] <Wug> Helloman892|PKMN: its a use first, recover afterwards
#1509 [17:18] <Helloman892|PKMN> Wug fainted
#1510 [17:18] * Wug had a focus band.
#1510 [17:18] <Helloman892|PKMN> Who cares.
#1511 [17:18] <Helloman892|PKMN> You were already on 1 HP.
#1512 [17:18] * Wug used kickban! its super effective.
#1512 [17:18] * Helloman892|PKMN evaded the attack!
#1512 [17:19] <Helloman892|PKMN> I so want to have Usermode +i set on me
#1513 [17:19] <Helloman892|PKMN> Then I could be a ninja
#1514 [17:19] <Helloman892|PKMN> Sorry, yeah, Pokémon, yeah.
#1515 [17:19] <Bugboy1028> Ok, guys, let turn back to MineCraft
#1516 [17:19] <Helloman892|PKMN> Let's.
#1517 [17:19] <Morrolan> mode i is default.
#1518 [17:20] <Helloman892|PKMN> Oh, yeah, this is EsperNet.
#1519 [17:21] <Wug> you do have +i ser
#1520 [17:21] <Wug> set*
#1521 [17:21] <Wug> i can't check other peoples umodes but unless you specifically unset it its there
#1522 [17:21] <Helloman892|PKMN> Good.
#1523 [17:21] <Wug> every server autosets it
#1524 [17:21] <Morrolan> Late Wug is late.
#1525 [17:22] <Wug> I DONT BACKREAD OK
#1526 [17:22] <Helloman892|PKMN> Lolz
#1527 [17:22] <Morrolan> IT'S FINE, YOU'RE STILL FLUFFY AND BLUE.
#1528 [17:22] <Wug> wugs are not fluffy
#1529 [17:22] <Morrolan> Oh? Slimey, then?
#1530 [17:22] <Morrolan> Or just, uh, leathery?
#1531 [17:22] <Wug> they look like feathers; they're actually spines.
#1532 [17:22] <Morrolan> Oh, hmm.
#1533 [17:23] <Wug> normally theyre harmless
#1534 [17:23] <Wug> but a distressed wug can stand them straight up.
#1535 [17:27] <Wug> nobody needs help?
#1536 [17:27] <Helloman892|PKMN> Nope.
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#1538 [17:33] <XNORH> hi
#1539 [17:34] <XNORH> I want to change the name
#1540 [17:34] <XNORH> I want to change the name
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#1542 [17:36] * Helloman892|PKMN is now known as Helloman892
#1543 [17:36] <Helloman892> I did not understand a word that guy said,
#1544 [17:36] <Helloman892> Because he left instantly.
#1545 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> That'd be his username he wants to change, because he's been banned from a server
#1546 [17:37] <Helloman892> I know.
#1547 [17:37] <Helloman892> I didn't understand it without some though.
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#1549 [17:37] <Helloman892> thought*
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#1560 [18:02] <Helloman892> YEY ELYSTUS
#1561 [18:02] <Helloman892> Wow
#1562 [18:02] <Elystus> hello :)
#1563 [18:02] <Helloman892> I forgot how much I missed all you guys
#1564 [18:02] <Helloman892> Lulz
#1565 [18:02] <Helloman892> I got bored of IRC.
#1566 [18:03] <Helloman892> So I left
#1567 [18:03] <Helloman892> And now I got bored of playing
#1568 [18:03] <Helloman892> So I came back
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#1571 [18:06] <Elystus> Welcome back :)
#1572 [18:06] <benhunter09> yay!
#1573 [18:06] <Helloman892> Thanks. If you remember me.
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#1584 [18:28] <KestrelCat> Help? I'm trying to set up a minecraft server so I can play with my boyfriend, but he's on a mac, and I'm on windows. I think I've got the server running okay on my laptop, but we're struggling with getting him to connect to it
#1585 [18:28] <Wug> it can be one of a few problems
#1586 [18:28] <Wug> it could be a firewall issue
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#1588 [18:29] <Wug> or, it could be a router issue
#1589 [18:29] <Wug> it could also be an issue with your isp (not likely to be resolved without changing plans and/or paying more money)
#1590 [18:29] <Wug> KestrelCat: can you connect to it on that computer?
#1591 [18:29] <Wug> and what ip address are you trying to use to connect?
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#1593 [18:31] <KestrelCat> I'm connected, I think. I'm playing perfectly fine.
#1594 [18:31] <Wug> and what ip address are you trying to use to connect?
#1595 [18:31] <KestrelCat> One sec
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#1597 [18:32] <Wug> !check 86.161.145.242
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#1599 [18:32] <Wug> that's your ip address, if you're hosting on that computer then the server is not accessible to the internet
#1600 [18:32] <KestrelCat> ipconfig says 10.0.1.34
#1601 [18:33] <KestrelCat> >> I fail at computers.
#1602 [18:33] <Helloman892> !check 10.0.1.34
#1603 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> KestrelCat: is your BF in the same building as you, or are you trying to work over the internet
#1604 [18:33] <Lutzee> That is your laptops IP? Also are you and your boyfriend on the same network?
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#1606 [18:33] <KestrelCat> He's in the same building as me
#1607 [18:33] <Lutzee> Helloman892: 10.x is a private address range
#1608 [18:33] <Helloman892> I know.
#1609 [18:33] <Wug> so why would you !check it
#1610 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> okay, so if you're running the server and your IP is 10.0.1.34
#1611 [18:34] <Wug> it could not possibly work
#1612 [18:34] <Helloman892> I was trying it to see what happened
#1613 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> then that is the IP he should use
#1614 [18:34] <Helloman892> Away again
#1615 [18:34] <Wug> KestrelCat: have you forwarded the port?
#1616 [18:34] <KestrelCat> ... thank you >>
#1617 [18:34] <KestrelCat> That worked, what DopeGhoti said
#1618 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Wug: thanks for playing Not Paying Attention (:
#1619 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> KestrelCat: my pleasure! (:
#1620 [18:34] <Wug> yep as per the usual
#1621 [18:34] <KestrelCat> I knew I'd be doing something ridiculously divvy
#1622 [18:34] <KestrelCat> Thank you ^^
#1623 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> KestrelCat: that'll be $8
#1624 [18:35] <Wug> DopeGhoti: debit my account
#1625 [18:35] * KestrelCat offers a kitten instead?
#1625 [18:35] <Wug> first one is free
#1626 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> deal
#1627 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1628 [18:35] <KestrelCat> \o/
#1629 [18:35] * KestrelCat hands over kittens to everyone and disappears with many thanks
#1629 [18:35] * KestrelCat hands over kittens to everyone and disappears with many thanks
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#1630 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> happy crafting
#1631 [18:35] <Helloman892> YEY KITTENZ
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#1633 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Why are Brits always so polite?
#1634 [18:36] <Helloman892> I'm a Brit.
#1635 [18:36] <Helloman892> We enjoy being polite.
#1636 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> so was KestrelCat
#1637 [18:36] <Helloman892> ... except from when we're not.
#1638 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> I'm not complaining at all, mind you (:
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#1640 [18:36] <Wug> DopeGhoti: they're not, I assure you
#1641 [18:36] <Wug> theyre just rude in different places and ways.
#1642 [18:37] <Helloman892> Meh, we're a polite bunch (as a general rule)
#1643 [18:37] <cestislife> ^
#1644 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> yes, but rude with dry wit is not the same as rude with crass insensitivity, as is the American wont.
#1645 [18:37] <Lutzee> The polite ones tend to be the ones who use the internet as more of a means to access facebook and twitter
#1646 [18:38] * Wug mentions xbox live.
#1646 [18:38] * DopeGhoti mentions Gabe's Greater Internet F[bleep]ckwad Theory
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#1647 [18:40] <KDrobe> I want to know how to put a mini map on right top of the screen.
#1648 [18:40] <Helloman892> We don't support modifcations.
#1649 [18:40] <Helloman892> ?? mods
#1650 [18:40] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1651 [18:40] <Lutzee> A mod, which we do not provide help for
#1652 [18:40] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1654 [18:41] <Leesa> I purchased minecraft on mojang website & I can't seem to find it...
#1655 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> !client
#1656 [18:41] <Leesa> Nothing downloaded or anything...they got my money...
#1657 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Leesa: ^
#1658 [18:42] <Helloman892> Leesa: You need to download the client here: www.minecraft.net/download, or at one of the links above.
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#1660 [18:43] <Leesa> Thanks that;'s awesome!
#1661 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8. (:
#1662 [18:43] <Helloman892> DOPE
#1663 [18:43] <Helloman892> BAD BOY
#1664 [18:43] <Helloman892> STOP CHARGING FOR AID
#1665 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> Helloman892 scold/shout
#1666 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Helloman892: (scold/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#1667 [18:43] <Helloman892> Sorry, I meant AIDS
#1668 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Everyone should have aides.
#1669 [18:43] <Leesa> ahh a comedian too!
#1670 [18:43] <Helloman892> ... DopeGhoti.
#1671 [18:44] <Helloman892> Stop it.
#1672 [18:44] <Helloman892> Just stahp.
#1673 [18:44] <Helloman892> Go home.
#1674 [18:44] <Leesa> helloman ur funny!
#1675 [18:44] <Helloman892> Your're drunk.
#1676 [18:44] <Helloman892> Thankyou.
#1677 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> Can't go home; I'm at work.
#1678 [18:44] <Helloman892> Goodnight
#1679 [18:44] * Helloman892 passes out
#1679 [18:44] * Disori is now known as Disori|off
#1680 [18:44] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#1681 [18:44] * DopeGhoti rolls Helloman892 into an unobtrusive corner
#1681 [18:45] * Helloman892 wakes up
#1681 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Right, then. Next?
#1682 [18:45] * Wug throws the rug over him
#1682 [18:45] <Helloman892> *ahem*
#1683 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892's been Wugrugged.
#1684 [18:45] <Wug> dont mind the bump in the floor, been there since the house was buit
#1685 [18:45] <Wug> built*
#1686 [18:45] <Lutzee> I thought i was bored, then i remembered i was going to install kubuntu..
#1687 [18:46] * Helloman892 pushes rug off
#1687 [18:46] <Helloman892> *ahem* *looks angry*
#1688 [18:46] <Leesa> I have to use my minecraft regular log in right?
#1689 [18:46] <Helloman892> Yes.
#1690 [18:46] <Leesa> for the download to work
#1691 [18:46] <Helloman892> No.
#1692 [18:46] <Helloman892> You do not need to login to download.
#1693 [18:46] <Helloman892> *the launcher
#1694 [18:47] <Lutzee> You log into the launcher (the file you just downloaded) with your mojang account details
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#1696 [18:47] <Helloman892> Thanks for typing that faster than I could.
#1697 [18:47] <kamaile> Hello?
#1698 [18:47] <cestislife> hi kamaile
#1699 [18:47] <Helloman892> Hello.
#1700 [18:47] <Lutzee> Helloman892: The joys of a mechanical keyboard :)
#1701 [18:47] <kamaile> I have a question for the mof optifine
#1702 [18:47] <Helloman892> ??> kamaile mods
#1703 [18:47] <VoxelHead> kamaile: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1704 [18:48] <VoxelHead> kamaile: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1705 [18:48] <Helloman892> Sorry ;(
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#1707 [18:48] <Helloman892> Ugh
#1708 [18:48] <Helloman892> I hate having to put people down like that
#1709 [18:48] <Helloman892> Anyways, I have a mechanical keyboard as well.
#1710 [18:48] <Helloman892> All my USB slots are taken up now.
#1711 [18:49] <Lutzee> I have 11 USB slots in my PC
#1712 [18:49] <Helloman892> USB keyboard, USB wireless mouse, USB headset, and USB 1TB HDD.
#1713 [18:49] <Helloman892> I have a laptop.
#1714 [18:49] <Helloman892> So no.
#1715 [18:49] <Helloman892> Or rather, I'm using a laptop.
#1716 [18:50] <Leesa> Should this be so friggin hard??
#1717 [18:50] <Helloman892> Leesa; What's going on now?
#1718 [18:50] <Leesa> I'm usually pretty good with this stuff...MAN!
#1719 [18:50] <Leesa> i did the launcher...
#1720 [18:50] <Wug> Leesa: i dont think you need to login to the download page
#1721 [18:50] <Helloman892> So, let's review: You've downloaded minecraft.exe.
#1722 [18:50] <Wug> or do you mean the launcher and im an idiot
#1723 [18:50] <Helloman892> You've opened minecraft.exe.
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#1725 [18:51] <Helloman892> Wug: Launcher.
#1726 [18:51] <Wug> are you using your email address to login to the launcher?
#1727 [18:51] <Helloman892> Wug: You cope with this one.
#1728 [18:51] * Wug implodes
#1728 [18:51] <Helloman892> Leesa: What Wug said.
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#1730 [18:51] <catlover0904> i need help getting mods.
#1731 [18:51] <Helloman892> .....
#1732 [18:51] <Lutzee> ??> catlover0904 mods
#1733 [18:51] <VoxelHead> catlover0904: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1734 [18:51] <VoxelHead> catlover0904: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1735 [18:51] <Helloman892> Bloody hell, Lutzee
#1736 [18:51] <Helloman892> You're a fast one
#1737 [18:51] <Wug> we leave it in our clipboards
#1738 [18:51] <Helloman892> Ah, I see.
#1739 [18:51] <Leesa> ok yes i was using the same one I have 4 minecraft websirte
#1740 [18:52] <Leesa> is that not the correct 1?
#1741 [18:52] <Helloman892> 4 minecraft websites?
#1742 [18:52] <Lutzee> Actually.. i dont, but tab complete is nice
#1743 [18:52] <Wug> Leesa: that one is correct. what does it say when you try to login?
#1744 [18:52] <Leesa> I also have it 4 xbox 360
#1745 [18:52] <Leesa> it's limited & u can't add mods...my son uses it...
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#1747 [18:53] <Helloman892> The Xbox 360 version isn't supported here, as a general rule. I think Vox has something on it, actually.
#1748 [18:53] <Wug> Leesa: what does it say when you try to login?
#1749 [18:53] <Leesa> it says login failed & it wo't download
#1750 [18:53] <Helloman892> But yeah, the Xbox 360 version is behind updatewise.
#1751 [18:54] <Helloman892> Leesa: What was the email you used to sign up with? Sign in with that and your password.
#1752 [18:54] <Lutzee> Leesa: make sure you are using the correct email/poassword combination
#1753 [18:54] <Wug> Leesa: and you can login with the exact same email and password on minecraft.net?
#1754 [18:54] <Leesa> well i bought the PC version for my laptop via the minecraft website...
#1755 [18:54] <Leesa> yes
#1756 [18:55] <Leesa> the funny thing is I am logged into the MC website..could that be the problem? should I close ALL windows 4 it?
#1757 [18:55] <Helloman892> What was the username you used?
#1758 [18:55] <Lutzee> Right back in 10 minutes after kubuntu has installed
#1759 [18:55] <Helloman892> And no, that shouldn't be a problem. Lutzee; see ya.
#1760 [18:56] <Leesa> laditto@gmail.com
#1761 [18:56] <Helloman892> Username, not email.
#1762 [18:57] <Helloman892> For example, Helloman892.
#1763 [18:57] <Helloman892> Rather than hm892@tysontcs.co.uk.
#1764 [18:57] <Leesa> dont think I have one..I always used that to log in there...
#1765 [18:57] <Helloman892> After you buy the game you have to choose a username.
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#1767 [18:57] <Leesa> ahhh well should Ihave gotten an email confirmation or something after I bought it?
#1768 [18:58] <Helloman892> Probably.
#1769 [18:58] <Helloman892> IIRC, yes.
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#1771 [18:59] <Leesa> i paid via paypal...that maybe the issue
#1772 [18:59] <Leesa> didnt go thorugh...hmmm....
#1773 [18:59] <Helloman892> Ah, hasn't gone through, that'll be it.
#1774 [18:59] <Helloman892> Let me check something ??< paypal
#1775 [18:59] <Helloman892> Lolfail
#1776 [19:00] <Helloman892> ??< paypal
#1777 [19:00] <Helloman892> ??< index
#1778 [19:00] <Leesa> guess I should pay direct then...
#1779 [19:00] <Helloman892> It would seem so.
#1780 [19:01] <Helloman892> ??< payment
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#1782 [19:01] <lutzee> Hmm, has quassel installed by default, but that can be easily changed
#1783 [19:02] <Leesa> so If I do it the other way...I will get email confirmation & it will download properly
#1784 [19:02] <Helloman892> Should do. Did when my father bought me the game.
#1785 [19:03] <Leesa> ok cool
#1786 [19:03] <Helloman892> I say my father, I mean the only guy who trusts me with his bank details
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#1788 [19:05] <catlover0904> does it cost money to install mods????
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#1791 [19:09] <cestislife> Wow.
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#1794 [19:12] <Leesa> I hope I"m not gonna be over charged...this sucks!
#1795 [19:12] <Leesa> who do I call if I have a problem? so I can get my $ back?
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#1798 [19:17] <Leesa> helloman u there?
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#1801 [19:20] <Leesa> hello anyone here?
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#1810 [19:32] <Snowman> So, they're making a Gravity Gun replica
#1811 [19:32] <Snowman> I want this
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#1820 [19:54] <Guest78228> hello, I love minecraft but it is very hard to play because I play for some time then the game freezes! It takes some time to return to the menu but wen I do it's fine! how can I fix this?
#1821 [19:54] <cestislife> It might be of your computer specifications.
#1822 [19:54] <cestislife> Minecraft is very resource intensive.
#1823 [19:55] <Guest78228> can you tell me step to step what to do?
#1824 [19:55] <cestislife> Though, if you haven't already, update Java, as it provides stability and performance improvements, usually.
#1825 [19:55] <Guest78228> how can I update java?
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#1827 [19:55] <cestislife> java.com
#1828 [19:55] <Declan> ddasdfasdfasdfas
#1829 [19:55] <Declan> Heythere,
#1830 [19:56] <cestislife> Ello
#1831 [19:56] <Declan> I can't get my downloaded minecraft to run
#1832 [19:56] <Declan> I can't install the game
#1833 [19:56] <Guest78228> ok. Will I be forced to leave while i'm updating?
#1834 [19:56] <Declan> I don't know what you mean
#1835 [19:56] <cestislife> No Guest78228.
#1836 [19:56] <cestislife> But we'll always be here.
#1837 [19:56] <cestislife> Declan, elaborate more?
#1838 [19:57] <Guest78228> ok, I will be updating.
#1839 [19:57] <Declan> I tried downloading the client from the website for Windows
#1840 [19:57] <Declan> It complained about the publisher
#1841 [19:57] <Declan> but I did download it
#1842 [19:57] <Declan> But nothing happens when I run it
#1843 [19:57] <cestislife> What OS are you running?
#1844 [19:57] <Declan> windows 7
#1845 [19:58] <cestislife> You've downloaded the launcher, and it does not run?
#1846 [19:59] <Declan> I downloaded something called Minecraft. It's an exe, but doesn't do anything when I double click on it
#1847 [19:59] <cestislife> Yes, that is the launcher.
#1848 [19:59] <cestislife> It might be your antivirus that's blocking it.
#1849 [19:59] <Declan> any ideas on how I can proceed?
#1850 [19:59] <cestislife> You can try disabling it, then try to run it.
#1851 [20:00] <Declan> Hmm, I'll try
#1852 [20:00] <Declan> thanks a lot for your help
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#1854 [20:07] <Declan> any idea on how I can disable McAfee?
#1855 [20:07] <Declan> I can't seem to find a way
#1856 [20:07] <Helloman892> Should be under your McAfee settings.
#1857 [20:07] <Helloman892> 'Disable all shields' or something
#1858 [20:07] <Helloman892> I dunno, I don't use it, no-one does :P
#1859 [20:07] <Declan> gees, I don't see anything like that. I'll look again
#1860 [20:08] <Declan> No one uses McAfee?
#1861 [20:08] <Helloman892> It was a joke.
#1862 [20:08] <Declan> I'm not bright enough to understand your joke
#1863 [20:09] <Helloman892> Because McAfee is considered to be one of the most tedious crapware to uninstall
#1864 [20:09] <Helloman892> Let's just say, it's a pain to use
#1865 [20:09] <Helloman892> And it's got a lot of false positives
#1866 [20:09] <Declan> I'm seeing that now
#1867 [20:09] <Helloman892> And blahblahblah- Google it.
#1868 [20:09] <Declan> Right. Well, does anyone out there who has familiarity with McAfee know how to disable it?
#1869 [20:10] <Helloman892> Anyways, I'll let cestislife continue in his important job.
#1870 [20:10] <Helloman892> Anyways, I'll let cestislife continue in his important job.
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#1872 [20:11] <cestislife> Declan, this should help
#1873 [20:11] <cestislife> http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6132_102-306705/how-temorarily-disable-mcafee-security-center/
#1874 [20:11] <Eddie> temorarily
#1875 [20:12] <cestislife> It's the site, not me
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#1877 [20:13] <Declan> hey there. I did some research on why I can't run the minecraft launcher and it doesn't appear to be related to my antivirus program. Any other ideas?
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#1879 [20:15] <Wug> Declan: hit the windows key and type cmd and hit enter
#1880 [20:15] <Declan> got it
#1881 [20:15] <Wug> is minecraft.exe on your desktop?
#1882 [20:15] <Declan> it's in my downloads directory
#1883 [20:16] <Wug> ok
#1884 [20:16] <Declan> I just navigated to it in the cmd
#1885 [20:16] <Wug> in the command prompt, type cd Downloads
#1886 [20:16] <Declan> right, I'm already ther
#1887 [20:16] <Declan> there
#1888 [20:16] <Wug> ok
#1889 [20:17] <Wug> type java -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> output.txt
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#1891 [20:17] <Wug> it should create a file in your downloads folder called output.txt, please open it
#1892 [20:17] <Declan> yes, it says 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command...
#1893 [20:18] <Wug> ok, do you know if you have java 6 or 7 installed?
#1894 [20:18] <Declan> not sure
#1895 [20:18] <Declan> how can I tell?
#1896 [20:18] <Wug> open the control panel, java will be listed under add/remove programs (with the version number)
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#1899 [20:19] <Wug> also, is it 32 bit or 64 bit? if it's x64 it will say so, otherwise it will probably say nothing.
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#1901 [20:20] <Assassin_> Can you help me im new to minecraft and i got a crash could you help me fix it C:\Users\Boys\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-01-11_19.19.09-client.txt Please show that file to Mojang, NOT just this screen! Generated 1/11/13 7:19 PM -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.7 Operating System: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java Version: 1.7.0_10, Oracle Corporation Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mi
#1902 [20:20] <Declan> I see Java 6 and Java 7
#1903 [20:20] <Declan> I don't see x64 on either
#1904 [20:21] <cestislife> ??> Assasin_ pastebin
#1905 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Assasin_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1906 [20:21] <cestislife> ??> Assassin_ pastebin
#1907 [20:21] <Wug> Declan: chances are you can get it to work by updating it to the newest version
#1908 [20:21] <Wug> uninstall the old ones first
#1909 [20:21] <Assassin_> ok
#1910 [20:21] <Declan> OK, I'll try that. Thanks!
#1911 [20:21] <Assassin_> http://pastebin.com/Et7Z29uM
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#1913 [20:22] <cestislife> The crash report, Assassin_
#1914 [20:22] <cestislife> I can barely read that.
#1915 [20:22] <Assassin_> o.o
#1916 [20:22] <Assassin_> what you mean
#1917 [20:22] <Wug> Declan: you can get the most recent version here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
#1918 [20:22] <Wug> get the one for windows x64 (last one in the list)
#1919 [20:22] <cestislife> The pastebin you posted isn't the crash report.
#1920 [20:23] <Assassin_> what oo.o
#1921 [20:23] <Assassin_> oh
#1922 [20:23] <cestislife> Please repost the crash report on pastebin, and share the URL here.
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#1925 [20:23] <Wug> Declan: second to last one. The last one is an archive, not an installer.
#1926 [20:24] <Declan> I'm sorry, what do you mean?
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#1928 [20:24] <Assassin_> http://pastebin.com/zV0zACki this should be it
#1929 [20:24] <Declan> Oh wait, I get what you mean. Thanks!
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#1932 [20:25] <cestislife> Assassin_, we do not support mods in this channel.
#1933 [20:25] <cestislife> But it seems like you have missing classes.
#1934 [20:25] <Assassin_> whats that
#1935 [20:25] <Assassin_> where could i get help?
#1936 [20:25] <lutzee> Assassin_: your mods are nto installed correctly
#1937 [20:26] <lutzee> #direwolf20 should be able to point you int he right direction
#1938 [20:26] <cestislife> We got in trouble for pointing people that way last time
#1939 [20:26] <Assassin_> where is he o.o
#1940 [20:26] <cestislife> Post your report here, http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/196-modded-client-support/
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#1942 [20:26] <Assassin_> :( im such a noob at minecraft lol
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#1944 [20:26] <Wug> teehee
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#1946 [20:26] <Wug> #direwolf20 doesnt want to give mod help
#1947 [20:26] <cestislife> ^
#1948 [20:27] <cestislife> It's a chat channel, mostly now.
#1949 [20:27] <Wug> send them anyway
#1950 [20:27] <Wug> dont tell them i said that.
#1951 [20:27] <cestislife> IRC log.
#1952 [20:27] <Assassin_> Now we wait :)
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#1954 [20:28] <Wug> Assassin_: you could start by checking the directions again and making sure you followed them correctly
#1955 [20:28] * lutzee sighs, there are people there who are happy to help, more help than you would get in #minecraftforge
#1955 [20:28] <Wug> in general nobody likes to support mods
#1956 [20:28] <Assassin_> ok Ill try again
#1957 [20:29] <Wug> we send them elsewhere, risucraft is for asking help with writing mods, not installing them, and direwolf20 is whatever it is
#1958 [20:29] <Assassin_> ok thanks
#1959 [20:30] <Declan> Wug - THANKS SO MUCH! Getting the correct version of Java did the trick. You've made my 8 year old son VERY HAPPY!
#1960 [20:30] <Wug> we were, a long time ago, going to make a channel for helping with mod installations, but the idea fell apart because nobody really wanted to do it
#1961 [20:30] <Wug> Declan: no problem
#1962 [20:30] <Declan> :)
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#1964 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> My invitation for anybody to give out mod help here still is valid. Nobody takes me up on it though
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#1966 [20:31] <Wug> its not fun to do
#1967 [20:31] <cestislife> Mostly because, ^
#1968 [20:31] <Wug> mod compatibility issues take a lot of work to solve
#1969 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much given up and said, "no mod help" to get it over with
#1970 [20:31] <Assassin_> wow allready someone who heloped lets see if it worked
#1971 [20:31] <Wug> that and while most mods are all the same installationwise, some of them do something different
#1972 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Then there's the modpacks..
#1973 [20:31] <Wug> ^
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#1975 [20:31] <lutzee> wait, where even are you asking?
#1976 [20:32] <cestislife> Which I think should be directed to their respective forums, the modpacks.
#1977 [20:32] <Wug> which are often modified for compatibility reasons because their constituent mods are not compatible, and thus have different bugs than the same mods sans packs
#1978 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> We do that now anyways
#1979 [20:32] <Wug> ill help with mods after ive memorized every combination of mods that exists
#1980 [20:32] <Wug> which is, I think, an n! operation
#1981 [20:32] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1981 [20:32] <cestislife> ^ Impossible
#1982 [20:33] <cestislife> By the time you've done that, a few hundred new ones come up.
#1983 [20:33] <Wug> actually it might just be 2^n
#1984 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> + different versions of mods.
#1985 [20:33] <Wug> either way.
#1986 [20:33] <cestislife> Also the possibility of a new api other than forge and modloader.
#1987 [20:33] <cestislife> ...also not forgetting the upcoming vanilla one.
#1988 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Thought I caught a glimpse of some forgebukkit, or bukkitforge hybrid.
#1989 [20:34] <Wug> Assassin_: in general, if you're having an installation bug, try reinstalling mods one by one, and if youre encountering something that seems to be a bug with the mod, contact the auther
#1990 [20:34] <Wug> author*
#1991 [20:34] <Wug> forgebukkit.....
#1992 [20:34] <Wug> I wonder what that will be abbreviated to
#1993 [20:34] <cestislife> Forgebukkit ceased, I think.
#1994 [20:34] <Wug> probably not borge
#1995 [20:34] <Assassin_> I tried and duped them and showed something not error :D
#1996 [20:34] <Assassin_> but deleted the duped one crashes it :(
#1997 [20:35] <lutzee> GreyVulpine: that Died because bukkit wasnt willing to offer up an ounce of help, meaning hundreds of hours of work each minecraft update
#1998 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1999 [20:35] <cestislife> mhmm.
#2000 [20:35] <Wug> sounds about right
#2001 [20:35] <lutzee> There is forge essentials in developement though
#2002 [20:36] <Wug> ive got a meeting thingy in 30 minutes
#2003 [20:36] <cestislife> mkay
#2004 [20:36] <Assassin_> Question how do tyou install the weekly snapshot?
#2005 [20:36] <cestislife> Have fun o/
#2006 [20:36] <cestislife> Assassin_, you just replace the minecraft.jar with the snapshot one.
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#2008 [20:36] <Assassin_> ???
#2009 [20:36] <cestislife> Then run minecraft as usual.
#2010 [20:37] <Wug> Assassin_: minecraft 101
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#2012 [20:37] <Assassin_> iM A NOOB AT MINECRAFT
#2013 [20:37] <Wug> the thing you download is not the game, it is a wrapper
#2014 [20:37] <Assassin_> sorry caps
#2015 [20:37] <i_like_pie101> How do you craft a bow again? XD
#2016 [20:37] <Assassin_> o.o
#2017 [20:37] <cestislife> i_like_pie101, 3 sticks and 3 string.
#2018 [20:37] <Wug> i_like_pie101: row 1: stick, string, nothing row 2: stick, nothing, string row 3: same as row 1
#2019 [20:38] <i_like_pie101> Im a noob when it comes to crafting XD
#2020 [20:38] <cestislife> The wiki has info on how to craft.
#2021 [20:38] <Wug> the wrapper is responsible for downloading and running the actual game program, which is stored somewhere else
#2022 [20:38] <i_like_pie101> Yeah its not loading :/
#2023 [20:38] <Wug> part of this game program (the file called minecraft.jar) is where mods are typically installed
#2024 [20:38] <i_like_pie101> I love my internet, not
#2025 [20:38] <Assassin_> Can you explain more how to how do you replace minecraft jar delete the old one?
#2026 [20:38] <Assassin_> Can you explain more how to how do you replace minecraft jar delete the old one?
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#2028 [20:38] <Wug> when you download a snapshot, it is this file that you replace with a different version
#2029 [20:39] <Wug> just delete the old one and replace it with the new one
#2030 [20:39] <Wug> leave the other stuff alone
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#2036 [20:41] <Assassin_> Its not working :( god this is bugging me Im such a noob at this
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#2039 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Assassin_: The place where you want to put it is in the .minecraft/bin/ folder
#2040 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/.minecraft
#2041 [20:42] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2042 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Keep in mind though that the snapshot is buggy. It has the latest things that they're working on, but also the latest problems too
#2043 [20:43] <Assassin_> its ok i want to try the stuff out
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#2048 [20:46] <Assassin_> What am i doing wrong i droped it into the bin folder
#2049 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> Were you asked if you want to replace the existing minecraft.jar file in there?
#2050 [20:47] <Assassin_> no
#2051 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Then something wasn't dont right
#2052 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Assassin_: The instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/How_to_Install_a_Snapshot
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#2055 [20:50] <Assassin_> It didnt work guess ill have to wait thanks anyway guys
#2056 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> You're welcome
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#2068 [21:11] <`Kelby> hello?
#2069 [21:11] <cestislife> Hi `Kelby
#2070 [21:12] <`Kelby> hi!
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#2074 [21:13] <`Kelby> is anyone availible for me to pester with annoying questions?
#2075 [21:13] <lutzee> Depends on the questions
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#2079 [21:14] <BllackWater> i bought minecraft but it wont let me sign in
#2080 [21:14] <`Kelby> welp.... about.... oh, i dunno. a year and a half, two years ago, i came in and asked for help setting up a shared minecraft world for me and my boyfriend to play in.
#2081 [21:14] <cestislife> Sign in using your mojag account, BllackWater
#2082 [21:15] <cestislife> mojang*
#2083 [21:15] <BllackWater> is my mojang account the email?
#2084 [21:15] <`Kelby> we played happily for a few weeks, then he got all tired of it case the star wars game came out and he started playing that..... and now tonight we've decided to give minecraft another go
#2085 [21:15] <`Kelby> but now we can't figure out how to make the server work again
#2086 [21:15] <cestislife> yes BllackWater.
#2087 [21:16] <`Kelby> he says we have minecraft server 1.0.0
#2088 [21:16] <lutzee> `Kelby: Ah, okay, you have read this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server ?
#2089 [21:16] <`Kelby> i dunno what that means
#2090 [21:16] <lutzee> `Kelby: that is the server version... which is very out of date
#2091 [21:16] <BllackWater> i never made a user name for minecraft tho
#2092 [21:16] <`Kelby> well, we wanna try using the same world that we abandoned from before.
#2093 [21:16] <lutzee> BllackWater: go to your profile on the mojang website, you should be prompted to make a username
#2094 [21:16] <cestislife> have you registered on accounts.mojang.com , BllackWater?
#2095 [21:17] <lutzee> `Kelby: ahh... um then you'll need the 1.2 version to first convert the world to the current format..
#2096 [21:17] <BllackWater> it says my account, click that?
#2097 [21:17] <lutzee> yes
#2098 [21:17] <`Kelby> how do i do that, if you please?
#2099 [21:17] <BllackWater> it says settings and log out
#2100 [21:18] <lutzee> Er.. its kind of complicated..
#2101 [21:18] <BllackWater> so settings right?
#2102 [21:18] <lutzee> BllackWater: press my account, it is also a button
#2103 [21:18] <`Kelby> is it super duper really hard?
#2104 [21:18] <BllackWater> it says my games and giftcodes
#2105 [21:18] <lutzee> `Kelby: it means backdating your minecraft clients to the 1.2 version of the game
#2106 [21:19] <lutzee> BllackWater: is minecraft listed under my games?
#2107 [21:19] <BllackWater> no its asking if i know that i can link accounts
#2108 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> BllackWater: It seems that while the attempt to pay has occurred, the attempt may not have been successful
#2109 [21:19] <`Kelby> oh.
#2110 [21:19] <`Kelby> i dunno what that means.
#2111 [21:19] <`Kelby> but ok.
#2112 [21:19] <BllackWater> so try to buy it again?
#2113 [21:20] <lutzee> ?? oldversion
#2114 [21:20] <VoxelHead> oldversion: By now there are several ways to downgrade your version of Minecraft. Either use a tool like McNostalgia, use a backup of your own, or download the old Minecraft binaries provided by Mojang. See ?? oldversion/list for a list of available binaries.
#2115 [21:20] <VoxelHead> oldversion: Please note that we do not support old versions.
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#2117 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> BllackWater: I'd try to figure out why it didn't succeed the first time, so that you can take action to ensure that it succeeds the next time
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#2119 [21:20] <BllackWater> i think it was just that the card didnt have enough money
#2120 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> That would explain things then
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#2124 [21:30] <Snorkyandy> Downloaded Minecraft 2 days ago. Worked fine first time. Now it won't run--I can login and it says MOJANG but then screen turns black and eventually returns to desktop. I updated Java and still having same problem. Please help
#2125 [21:30] <lutzee> ??> Snorkyandy forceupdate
#2126 [21:30] <VoxelHead> Snorkyandy: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2127 [21:30] <VoxelHead> Snorkyandy: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2128 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> If it continues, can we please get a crash report about the issue?
#2129 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> THe .minecraft/ folder contains a crash-report folder with time/dated reports
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#2131 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> If none are found in there, you can get your own report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash and then upload the contents to pastebin for us to take a look at
#2132 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#2133 [21:31] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2134 [21:34] <neilio1016> whenever i try to run minecraft it says, Error: could not create the java virtual machine. Error: A fatal exception has occured. Program will exit. HOW DO I FIX THIS? PLEASE HELP!
#2135 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> neilio1016: DO you have a crash report with the full details about the issue?
#2136 [21:35] <neilio1016> NO :(
#2137 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> neilio1016: Actually, it seems that you may not have Java correctly installed
#2138 [21:36] <neilio1016> i thought that too. but when i tried to update java, it said the same error
#2139 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> That's what I'm meaning. If you have the 32-bit version of Java installed you can get that issue. You can get the 64-bit version of Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2140 [21:37] <neilio1016> ok. i'll try it and get back to you
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#2142 [21:39] <neilio1016> while it was installing, the error popped up again
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#2144 [21:41] <neilio1016> so it finished installing, and i tried running minecraft and it gave me the error again
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#2147 [21:44] <Javelin> how do you record videos?
#2148 [21:44] <cestislife> Javelin, with a screen recording program.
#2149 [21:44] <Javelin> what program do you use?
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#2151 [21:44] <Javelin> like
#2152 [21:44] <cestislife> Fraps is one of the more known ones.
#2153 [21:45] <Javelin> do you use it?
#2154 [21:45] <cestislife> No, because I don't record.
#2155 [21:45] <Javelin> oh
#2156 [21:45] <Javelin> does anyone know how to use fraaps
#2157 [21:45] <Javelin> does anyone know how to use fraps
#2158 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> neilio1016: Can I see a dxdiag report from you?
#2159 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Load fraps. Load game. Press F10 when you want to record
#2160 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> neilio1016 win/dxdiag
#2161 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Press it again when you want to stop
#2162 [21:46] <VoxelHead> neilio1016: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2163 [21:46] <VoxelHead> neilio1016: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2165 [21:48] <lutzee> Javelin: There are plenty of tutorials on the internet, try googling it
#2166 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> It also comes with instructions that provide details on how to use it
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#2168 [21:50] <lutzee> And also records in completely uncompressed format..
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#2178 [22:07] <yellowduck> Hello, I am having a problem with Minecraft, details are here; http://pastebin.com/GQAVBsgD
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#2181 [22:07] <lutzee> ??> yellowduck mods
#2182 [22:07] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2183 [22:07] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2185 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> yellowduck: Please take it to the #minecraftforge channel
#2186 [22:08] <yellowduck> Okay
#2187 [22:08] <yellowduck> Thanks anyway
#2188 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome. Instead of us not being good at helping with modded situations, we direct people to where they can best get the help that they need
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#2190 [22:09] <yellowduck> seems like a nice system
#2191 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> It works well, and allows us to focus on what we're good at (see the topic)
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#2194 [22:18] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: Well, there is #minecraftmodded, but im the only person there atm, and most likely won't beable to help
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#2196 [22:19] <cestislife> I think it's #minecraft-modding
#2197 [22:20] <Andrio> SinZ, hi.
#2198 [22:20] <SinZ> cestislife: #minecraftmodded is a channel made by worldmc, in attempt to be the #minecrafthelp for mods
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#2200 [22:22] <cestislife> Fair enough.
#2201 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Best of luck.
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#2205 [22:31] <SHillier> Can someone help me with a possible issue?
#2206 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2207 [22:31] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: Since he uses mibbit, the channel needs it
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#2209 [22:32] <SHillier> Im trying to run Minecraft. I just reinstalled it onto my computer. I log in, it says downloading blah blah blah... flashes the Mojang thing then goes black and doesnt do anything else. Ideas?
#2210 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> SHillier: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2211 [22:35] <SHillier> thanks. ill see what i can do
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#2214 [22:40] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: the staff in #minecrafthelp is always welcome in #minecraftmodded <3
#2215 [22:40] <SinZ> since im basing my bot on the bots in this channel
#2216 [22:42] <lutzee> Okay, I quite like KDE, it seems to work nicer with my graphics drivers than cinnamon did.. not time to sleep
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#2228 [23:17] <Flush> I play the Xbox version of MineCraft and have an odd issue... I had been playing Survival on Peaceful by myself, then had 2-3 people join me via Xbox Live, and briefly turned diff. to Easy. Playing solo again on Peaceful (mining very deep) and
#2229 [23:17] <Tay> When my child is going onto minecraft, it won't let her do anything but look around. she cannot move at all. Cannot place blocks and cannot break any
#2230 [23:18] <Flush> … I am still getting hungry (on peaceful)
#2231 [23:18] <Flush> Anyone have any ideas why, or how to fix?
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#2233 [23:21] <Rmarmorstein> Are you sure it is in peaceful? Did you switch before it was full maybe?
#2234 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> Flush: Are you on a singleplayer world, or on a multiplayer one?
#2235 [23:21] <Flush> I likely switched when I was partly hungry, but yes, I even rebooted the Xbox, the game, and toggled from peaceful over to hard and back again
#2236 [23:22] <Flush> I ate some fish and can wait to see if I get hungry again
#2237 [23:22] <Flush> I am currently playing by myself, and the world was started solo, but I briefly had an Xbox party on with me; the world has never gone creative
#2238 [23:24] <Flush> Actually, I will say thanks to anyone who tried to help, but I think that by filling the food bar, it will now stay full, as I just ran 250-ish blocks and have not lost any food bar
#2239 [23:25] <cestislife> I think how Peaceful works is that your hunger bar will not move, ever.
#2240 [23:25] <cestislife> I've never really played on that mode much.
#2241 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> true
#2242 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hunger
#2243 [23:26] <Flush> No, it moved, I suddenly noticed it was moving because I was near bed rock and saw it at 3 food, and it dropped on my climb out
#2244 [23:26] <Flush> But I will go look
#2245 [23:27] <Flush> Thanks again!
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#2247 [23:40] <Flush> Good night
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#2250 [23:44] <uhhhhhhhh> My friend bought minecraft and can't login to his account. He hasn't been able to login since purchase. It says he didn't buy it, and when he tries to buy it again, it doesn't work.
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#2252 [23:50] <shnaggs> I may have perched two copies of the game but i haven't been able to download or use the game
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