#MinecraftHelp > 2013-01-24
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#27 [02:40] <_____wornox_____> hello my name is wornox i am haveing trouble logging in it has never done this before i just made a server but it just comes up with (can't connect to minecraft.net)
#28 [02:42] <cestislife> !login
#29 [02:42] <cestislife> Please note the servers are a bit wonky lately.
#30 [02:42] <cestislife> Check help.mojang.com
#31 [02:43] <_____wornox_____> i did but nothing worked
#32 [02:44] <NinjaKirby> "I just made a server", does the server have allowances to access the Internet? If online-mode is True, presumably the server needs access to verify Users logging in.
#33 [02:44] <_____wornox_____> i can log in but i have to play offline the servers (except mine) say they are all up but i connect and they stuff up
#34 [02:45] <NinjaKirby> And am I think backwards about it.
#35 [02:45] <NinjaKirby> *Or am I, heh
#36 [02:45] <_____wornox_____> heh
#37 [02:45] <NinjaKirby> Ignore that last thing I said, it made no sense at all.
#38 [02:46] <_____wornox_____> ya right anyways
#39 [02:46] <_____wornox_____> so do u know what is wrong
#40 [02:46] <NinjaKirby> All those underscores in your name is murdering my eyes, so I'm gonna take this opportunity to get some Cereal
#41 [02:46] <_____wornox_____> ???
#42 [02:46] <_____wornox_____> it is five on each side
#43 [02:46] <NinjaKirby> Aye....
#44 [02:47] <_____wornox_____> aye?
#45 [02:47] <_____wornox_____> so can u help?? anyone?
#46 [02:47] <NinjaKirby> Oh damn, I cleared up my Firewall rules a while back.
#47 [02:48] <NinjaKirby> But I think you'll need to make sure you have exceptions for "Java.exe" and "Javaw.exe", to allow inbound/outbound traffic
#48 [02:48] <_____wornox_____> ok?
#49 [02:49] <NinjaKirby> I guess to know for sure, try temporarily disabling your Firewall, and run the server/connect as normal
#50 [02:49] <NinjaKirby> If it works, then it's the Firewall.
#51 [02:50] <NinjaKirby> Really your Firewall software should notify you about that stuff, and give you a chance to make exceptions, so I'm a little skeptical about this.
#52 [02:50] <_____wornox_____> ok how do i disable my firewall
#53 [02:50] <_____wornox_____> this computer only has minecraft anyways
#54 [02:50] <NinjaKirby> There's no McAfee, Norton, ESET or AVG?
#55 [02:51] <NinjaKirby> Or Kaspersky, or whatever it's called
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#57 [02:51] <Mathyboy1028> _____wornox_____, it'
#58 [02:51] <_____wornox_____> chong?
#59 [02:51] <Mathyboy1028> _____wornox_____, it's annoying, why cant you simply it
#60 [02:51] <_____wornox_____> simply it?
#61 [02:52] <NinjaKirby> wat, "Simply it?", lol
#62 [02:52] <NinjaKirby> Oh, simplify
#63 [02:52] <_____wornox_____> uuummm
#64 [02:52] <Mathyboy1028> to _wornox_
#65 [02:52] <Zyates> Minecraft has not let me login to one day know. Anyone know why?
#66 [02:52] <_____wornox_____> ok yep i want that well Wornox
#67 [02:52] <_____wornox_____> hey same problam!!!!
#68 [02:53] <_____wornox_____> i cant log in either
#69 [02:53] <Mathyboy1028> _____wornox_____, _wornox_ is very simplify form of _________________________________wormox_________________________________
#70 [02:53] <_____wornox_____> um can i be Wornox
#71 [02:53] <Mathyboy1028> yes
#72 [02:53] <_____wornox_____> and its my IG name
#73 [02:53] <NinjaKirby> I'll come back in a minute, I guess.
#74 [02:53] <_____wornox_____> ok
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#75 [02:54] <Mathyboy1028> _____wornox_____, you can do it by doing /nick newnamehere
#76 [02:54] <Zyates> anyone know when it may be fixed. or anything I can do?
#77 [02:54] * Mathyboy1028 is now known as Bugboy1028
#78 [02:55] <Wornox> ok so i cant log in
#79 [02:56] <Zyates> yeah, same for me :(
#80 [02:56] <Wornox> so we both have same problamo
#81 [02:56] <Wornox> now wat do we do??
#82 [02:56] * NinjaKirby just logged into Supremecraft without a problem
#82 [02:56] <NinjaKirby> Servers are fine for me.
#83 [02:57] <Bugboy1028> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#84 [02:57] <NinjaKirby> Maybe it is just being hit and miss, or you have local issues.
#85 [02:57] <Zyates> idk
#86 [02:57] <Wornox> wat is dat link
#87 [02:57] <Bugboy1028> check if any part of MC is down
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#89 [02:57] <Zyates> my friends can login
#90 [02:57] <Bugboy1028> is it possible that server you connect is down?
#91 [02:58] <Wornox> bugboy none is down but can my IG name be Wornox?
#92 [02:58] <Bugboy1028> Yes?
#93 [02:58] <NinjaKirby> The Homepage and Forums load instantly for me, I question the accuracey of the Russian site.
#94 [02:58] <Zyates> no, Minecraft will not let me login
#95 [02:58] <Wornox> thank you
#96 [02:59] <Zyates> it says it cant connect to minecraft.net
#97 [02:59] <Wornox> so yea i am australian SAME WITH ZYATES
#98 [03:00] <Wornox> is it the computer or minecraft?
#99 [03:00] <Zyates> is there away to change the launcher to look at the Russian site Ninja?
#100 [03:01] <Wornox> ninja gone 4 a min
#101 [03:01] <NinjaKirby> Negative, that's a third party website anyway as far as I can tell
#102 [03:01] <Wornox> o hi
#103 [03:01] <NinjaKirby> You wouldn't want to send your login details to them
#104 [03:01] <Zyates> oh, okay thanks
#105 [03:02] <Wornox> so is it being fixed
#106 [03:02] <Wornox> and is my IG name Wornox?
#107 [03:02] <NinjaKirby> !login
#108 [03:03] <Zyates> i just looked at minecraft.net and it says everything is fine
#109 [03:03] <Wornox> i cant and on mine it says it is haveing difficulties
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#111 [03:03] <Wornox> hi sliman
#112 [03:03] <Zyates> yeah, it still will not let me login
#113 [03:04] <Wornox> 'same
#114 [03:04] <NinjaKirby> I don't know what to suggest, it appears to all be running fine atm. I can login to a server in seconds my end.
#115 [03:04] <Wornox> mmmmmmm.
#116 [03:04] <Wornox> mmmmmmm.
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#118 [03:04] <Wornox> that is a problam'
#119 [03:04] <NinjaKirby> Maybe it is just being a bit derpy, and I'm just lucky
#120 [03:05] <Wornox> lol
#121 [03:05] <Zyates> true
#122 [03:05] <Wornox> i will try tomoz
#123 [03:05] <Wornox> blurpezz
#124 [03:05] <NinjaKirby> What happens if you ping Minecraft.net?
#125 [03:05] <Wornox> uumm english
#126 [03:06] <NinjaKirby> Start Menu -> Run -> Type in "CMD" without quotations
#127 [03:06] <Wornox> also are hacked clients legel
#128 [03:06] <NinjaKirby> Uh... probably not... lol
#129 [03:06] <Wornox> ok i am on cmd
#130 [03:06] <Zyates> no haha
#131 [03:06] <NinjaKirby> Different clients like Tekkit Launcher and stuff are fine
#132 [03:07] <NinjaKirby> Okay, type in "Ping Minecraft.net -ncount 10"
#133 [03:07] <NinjaKirby> Try hitting it a good few times with data, see if any of it's lost
#134 [03:08] <NinjaKirby> Whoa okay, never mind, it looks like they have Protective measures in place to disallow ping.
#135 [03:08] <Zyates> request timed out
#136 [03:08] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, I'm getting the same thing, I guess the Amazon Cloud doesn't like Ping.
#137 [03:08] <Wornox> requesrt timed out
#138 [03:08] <Wornox> ok
#139 [03:08] <Wornox> gotta pee brb
#140 [03:09] <Wornox> back
#141 [03:10] <Wornox> so anything ninja
#142 [03:10] <NinjaKirby> I'm kinda stumped. I don't really know how the Servers are these days, maybe it is just a temporary problem. If you say you are both from Australia, maybe it's a temporary routing issue.
#143 [03:11] <NinjaKirby> Or something of the sort.
#144 [03:12] <Wornox> yep ok try tomoz hey wait log on to 192.168.0.15 free op for whoever joins
#145 [03:12] <Zyates> on minecraft.net help, it says if you try to login to much the server locks you out and you must wait for it the unlock your account.
#146 [03:12] <Wornox> i can acces it through yea u know
#147 [03:12] <NinjaKirby> Wornox: That's you internal LAN address, so no one here can connect to that :)
#148 [03:12] <DiskDaemon> It's like trying to get someone to hack 127.0.0.1
#149 [03:12] <Wornox> huh?
#150 [03:13] <NinjaKirby> lerl Daemon Diskette
#151 [03:13] <Wornox> wait my friend goes on it
#152 [03:13] <Wornox> he can
#153 [03:13] <Wornox> enter it to ur direct connect
#154 [03:13] <Wornox> or Wornox_craft
#155 [03:13] <DiskDaemon> Wornox: Only people on your internal LAN are capable of connecting to 192.168.0.15 - everybody else, which is all of us, have no access to such internal locations of yours
#156 [03:14] <Wornox> ok see u tomoz if does not work
#157 [03:14] <DiskDaemon> Who's tomoz?
#158 [03:14] <Andrio> Tomorrow.
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#177 [04:12] <draco> Hello! I am having trouble getting into minecraft. when i click on the program and enter my details and click "Log in" it sometimes says it cannot connect to minecraft.net and other times it just says nothing and offers me to try again or play offline. Please help :(
#178 [04:13] <worldmc> hello
#179 [04:13] <NinjaKirby> Had a couple of people earlier reporting the same thing, "Cannot connect to Minecraft.net", we believe it may still be wonky Login Servers
#180 [04:13] <NinjaKirby> Don't suppose your from Australia, Draco?
#181 [04:13] <draco> indeed
#182 [04:14] <NinjaKirby> Uh, really? Wow, maybe it is a Australia localised issue
#183 [04:14] <worldmc> that could be if there were a few people reporting it
#184 [04:14] <worldmc> !login
#185 [04:15] <NinjaKirby> Damn, I should have asked what ISP they were on earlier
#186 [04:15] <worldmc> the servers are working
#187 [04:15] <draco> its interesting because all of my friends who are in australia can log in and i cant :(
#188 [04:15] <worldmc> i might have something. not sure if it were to help but it might
#189 [04:16] <worldmc> no acces to the index
#190 [04:16] <draco> i am up for anything :( just would like to play haha
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#192 [04:18] <cestislife> worldmc, what index?
#193 [04:18] <worldmc> the one from voxelhead. school is blocking the connection
#194 [04:18] <worldmc> was looking for the dns flush script since that might help
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#196 [04:19] <worldmc> !help
#197 [04:19] <cestislife> Would you know what the directory for it is?
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#200 [04:19] <worldmc> ?
#201 [04:19] <cestislife> Under /tools/ ?
#202 [04:20] <worldmc> well for what i sere there isnt much under tools
#203 [04:20] <worldmc> *see
#204 [04:20] <cestislife> But you said you needed the script? :P
#205 [04:21] <cestislife> Found it
#206 [04:21] <worldmc> they are in australian and the launcher doesnt let them connect to the mojang auth servers. im thinking htat the dns flush might reslove it. but i dont know the command ontop of my head
#207 [04:21] <cestislife> ??> draco win/dns/bat
#208 [04:21] <TheNoodle> One of Australia's larger ISPs is having problems at the moment. And if memory serves most of our international traffic routes through them.
#209 [04:21] <VoxelHead> draco: (win/dns/bat) DNS Cache Flusher: http://is.gd/mc_dnsflush (Note: Ignore any warnings about unsafe files, this file is safe)
#210 [04:22] <cestislife> Is that what you wanted worldmc?
#211 [04:22] <worldmc> yep
#212 [04:22] <cestislife> mkay
#213 [04:24] <draco> k lemme check thanx
#214 [04:24] <draco> nope same thing
#215 [04:28] <worldmc> i dont think that we can help you anymore. if its a isseu with the isps there we cant do anything about it. (correct me if wrong)
#216 [04:28] <cestislife> It is most likely an issue with the ISP, yes.
#217 [04:28] <draco> thats ok, i appreciate the time guys. fingers crossed they fix it.
#218 [04:28] <TheNoodle> It's not his ISP
#219 [04:29] <cestislife> TheNoodle, ?
#220 [04:29] <TheNoodle> draco: Where are you living?
#221 [04:29] <TheNoodle> (Just a general area will do)
#222 [04:30] <draco> victoria, south of victoria
#223 [04:30] <TheNoodle> Then yeah, it's not your isp, I've got other iinet connections around there that are handling it fine
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#230 [04:56] <wornox> hello minecraft help i cannot connect to minecraft.net when i log in
#231 [04:56] <draco> :) same as me mate
#232 [04:57] <wornox> hey bro u aussie?
#233 [04:57] <draco> yeah man
#234 [04:57] <wornox> same error i am aussie to
#235 [04:58] <wornox> so any help people on?
#236 [04:59] * worldmc|off is now known as worldmc
#237 [04:59] <wornox> hello
#238 [04:59] <TheNoodle> Time to go look at a network map and figure out who to shout at
#239 [05:00] <worldmc> lol
#240 [05:00] <wornox> anyone on say I
#241 [05:00] <wornox> any help people on????
#242 [05:00] <wornox> i need help
#243 [05:01] <worldmc> we know that
#244 [05:01] <wornox> u help person?
#245 [05:01] <TheNoodle> wornox: The issue appears to be with one of the international pipes from the eastern states.
#246 [05:01] <worldmc> wornox we had several isseus today
#247 [05:01] <wornox> ok so can u fix it?
#248 [05:01] <worldmc> probally not
#249 [05:02] <wornox> when can i get on?
#250 [05:02] <TheNoodle> There's not much we can do to fix it at this point, short of proxying traffic through another pipe
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#252 [05:02] <wornox> so maybe a week?
#253 [05:02] <TheNoodle> (Which I don't have the time to set up unfortunately)
#254 [05:02] <TheNoodle> Hopefully less than a week.
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#256 [05:02] <wornox> cool
#257 [05:03] <wornox> so we just cant fix it now?
#258 [05:04] <wornox> tguys?
#259 [05:04] <wornox> guys?
#260 [05:05] <wornox> come on guys
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#262 [05:05] <cestislife> wornox.
#263 [05:05] <cestislife> ..
#264 [05:06] <worldmc> was about to do ??> patience
#265 [05:06] <cestislife> We can't do anything that's probably miles under the sea.
#266 [05:06] <worldmc> yeah lets all dive down
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#268 [05:06] <TheNoodle> I've texted a tech and tweeted at iiNet, I'll see if anything pops up
#269 [05:07] <draco> thanx thenoodle
#270 [05:07] <draco> i would have done it myself but all i know how to do is click and kill in games :P cant work out the smart stuff haha
#271 [05:09] <TheNoodle> np
#272 [05:09] <draco> i really shouldnt ask this here but you guys will be able to answer me quicker then any web site
#273 [05:09] <draco> can i plant things on a block above water to make it grow quicker?
#274 [05:10] <draco> or does it have to be ont he same level as the water?
#275 [05:10] <worldmc> not above
#276 [05:10] <draco> damn :(
#277 [05:10] <worldmc> the block has to be next to the water
#278 [05:10] <worldmc> then the plant can be on that block
#279 [05:10] <draco> i was told within 2 blocks of water?
#280 [05:11] <worldmc> well the water has a spread radius of 4 around the source
#281 [05:11] <worldmc> is the block is on the same layer
#282 [05:11] <worldmc> i say go and hit play ofline and test it in creative
#283 [05:12] <draco> playing ftb offline now :D
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#285 [05:19] <zen> Actually... on top of the water is fine from what i remember.. i would test it in creative :p
#286 [05:20] <TheNoodle> draco: Mind if I Asia quick favour?
#287 [05:20] <TheNoodle> *i ask a
#288 [05:20] <cestislife> Mind if you asia a quick flavour
#289 [05:20] <draco> hm???
#290 [05:20] <cestislife> Lawl
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#292 [05:21] <TheNoodle> Go to a command prompt and type tracert session.minecraft.net
#293 [05:22] <draco> k promise not to laugh?
#294 [05:22] <TheNoodle> Then paste the output to http://pastebin.com and give me the URL.
#295 [05:22] <draco> whats a command prompt?
#296 [05:22] <TheNoodle> Hold down the windows key and press r, in the box that comes up type cmd and hit enter.
#297 [05:23] <TheNoodle> (Assuming you're on wi does that is)
#298 [05:23] * TheNoodle sighs
#298 [05:23] <TheNoodle> *windoes
#299 [05:24] <Andrio> You're not on Windows, are you Noodle?
#300 [05:24] <zen> He's on windows :>
#301 [05:24] <TheNoodle> I'm on iOS \o/
#302 [05:24] <draco> ok so ive typed it in
#303 [05:25] <draco> its come up with a bunch of shit
#304 [05:25] <draco> what part is the "output" ?
#305 [05:25] <TheNoodle> Okay, maximise the window
#306 [05:25] <draco> yup
#307 [05:25] <TheNoodle> Then right click and click on the mark option
#308 [05:26] <draco> k
#309 [05:26] <TheNoodle> Drag a box around all the text, release the mouse button and hit enter
#310 [05:26] <TheNoodle> Now go to pastebin and hit ctrl+v
#311 [05:27] <draco> it work?
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#313 [05:27] <TheNoodle> After you pres sub,it you need to paste the URL of the page it takes you to.
#314 [05:27] <TheNoodle> *press submit
#315 [05:27] * zen didn't realise the mark thing existed..
#315 [05:28] <TheNoodle> I hate this touch screen ;_;
#316 [05:28] <zen> ipad?
#317 [05:28] <TheNoodle> Yep
#318 [05:28] <zen> ew, i want a nexus 10 ;-;
#319 [05:28] <TheNoodle> I think it's because I'm trying to type at a normal speed
#320 [05:29] <Omen> So, when I try to login I get an error that the login servers are probably down, but I asked Aubot and he says they are up :(
#321 [05:29] <zen> nexus 10s are in stock wtf no
#322 [05:29] <draco> k i took a step back for a sec, i pasted it and so do i click submit now or?
#323 [05:31] <TheNoodle> Yep
#324 [05:31] <draco> k done done
#325 [05:31] <TheNoodle> Now give us the URL of the page it took you to.
#326 [05:31] <draco> http://pastebin.com/vfX6nMbp
#327 [05:33] <TheNoodle> thanks!
#328 [05:36] <zen> Why does te nexus 10 have to be in stock when i have no money :<
#329 [05:46] <cestislife> Because Google trolls.
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#333 [05:57] <worldmc> hello people hows it going here?
#334 [05:57] <OxideNetworks_> good you?
#335 [05:57] <OxideNetworks_> Just admiring the Downtime of Minecraft Login servers
#336 [05:57] <cestislife> !login
#337 [05:57] <cestislife> They work for certain people
#338 [05:57] <cestislife> >.>
#339 [05:58] <OxideNetworks_> But not me...
#340 [05:58] <worldmc> where do you live?
#341 [05:58] <worldmc> country is enough
#342 [05:58] <OxideNetworks_> Australia
#343 [05:58] <OxideNetworks_> And atm im working on a Plugin
#344 [05:58] <OxideNetworks_> Im a Develeper
#345 [05:58] <OxideNetworks_> *Developer
#346 [05:58] <worldmc> some isp of austria are malfunctioning
#347 [05:59] <draco> join the club :P
#348 [05:59] <OxideNetworks_> Austria or Australia?
#349 [05:59] <worldmc> australia
#350 [05:59] <OxideNetworks_> Join the clup?
#351 [05:59] <draco> ive made T-shirts! :D
#352 [05:59] <worldmc> lol
#353 [05:59] <draco> i cant get in :P
#354 [05:59] <worldmc> draco has been here for a few hours now. same problems
#355 [05:59] <OxideNetworks_> mhh
#356 [06:00] <TheNoodle> Nothing we can do at this time I'm afraid.
#357 [06:03] <Lutzee> Not to mention, login servers cert expired about an hour ago, mollstam just updated it..
#358 [06:04] <TheNoodle> lol
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#360 [06:06] <person1658> hai, um i was trying to download a snapshot and minecraft cant conect to minecraft.net
#361 [06:06] <worldmc> a. servers are down
#362 [06:06] <person1658> and, theres no minecraft.jar
#363 [06:06] <person1658> so...
#364 [06:06] <worldmc> b. dont forget to rename the snapshot jar to minecraft.jar
#365 [06:07] <person1658> oh
#366 [06:07] <person1658> let meh try thet
#367 [06:07] <CosmicVoyager> Hvae not been able to login for about 12 hours!
#368 [06:08] <worldmc> the mojang login servers just went down
#369 [06:08] <CosmicVoyager> they were down when i went to sleep
#370 [06:08] <worldmc> well they have been up in the night and morning
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#372 [06:10] <CosmicVoyager> it did not say they were down eralier, but they were. it just said there were problems logging into website
#373 [06:10] <worldmc> try now?
#374 [06:11] <CosmicVoyager> nope sama s it has been
#375 [06:11] <CosmicVoyager> Can't connect to minecraft.net.
#376 [06:11] <worldmc> are you in australia?
#377 [06:11] <CosmicVoyager> Npe, US
#378 [06:11] <CosmicVoyager> nope
#379 [06:12] <Lutzee> Leave it an hour and try again..
#380 [06:13] <CosmicVoyager> Its says cant connect the moment i click Login. It is ike it is not even trying.
#381 [06:13] <worldmc> restart launcher
#382 [06:14] <Lutzee> What do you see when you go here https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13 ?
#383 [06:15] <CosmicVoyager> Bad login
#384 [06:15] <Lutzee> So you can connect to the login servers
#385 [06:18] <CosmicVoyager> it takes a second when i enter in web browser, but not in Minecraft
#386 [06:18] <CosmicVoyager> i dont think Minecraft os working right
#387 [06:19] <CosmicVoyager> i dont think it is actually checking
#388 [06:19] <Lutzee> Of course it is checking... or trying too
#389 [06:19] <Lutzee> What antivirus do you have?
#390 [06:19] <CosmicVoyager> it did this once before and i restarted my comouter and it worked, but not tis time
#391 [06:20] <CosmicVoyager> no antivirus
#392 [06:21] <CosmicVoyager> no firewall
#393 [06:21] <CosmicVoyager> i am restarting router...
#394 [06:22] <worldmc> i suggest beeside fixing the problem to get a firewall and a antivirus program. malware can do rare things wich can cause the os to break
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#397 [06:26] <draco> woot!
#398 [06:26] <draco> im in!
#399 [06:27] <worldmc> nice
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#407 [07:12] <CosmicVoyager> Been getting "Can't connect to minecraft.net" since yesterday.
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#415 [07:34] <Andy_> HI
#416 [07:35] <Andy_> I need help.
#417 [07:35] <Lutzee> ?? ask
#418 [07:35] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#419 [07:35] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#421 [07:36] <Andy_> I paid for my sons account. SOmeone has discovered his username and password and change all the settings
#422 [07:37] <Lutzee> Andy_: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
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#427 [07:48] <CosmicVoyager> Is there a minecrat help forum? I have been getting "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" for a day. No problems with anything except Minecraft. No antivirus software. No firewall. It instantly says "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" when I click Login.
#428 [07:50] <Lutzee> Help resources are listed here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-technical-support-resources
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#432 [08:02] <LoveJloLove> Hi
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#434 [08:02] <cestislife> 5 seconds.
#435 [08:02] <cestislife> Huh.
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#438 [08:09] <CosmicVoyager> i see that some poeple need to force mincraft to use ipv4. i see how to do that on windows. how do i do it on mac?
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#441 [08:20] <Omen> how about just using the ipv4 address of the server instead of using the hostname?
#442 [08:20] <clarjon1> Omen: No, because the issue he's describing tends to prevent the launcher from successfully logging the user in
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#444 [08:20] <clarjon1> CosmicVoyager: It should be a similar process, except starting the minecraft client via the Terminal application
#445 [08:21] <Omen> Ahh that, the IPv6 login servers
#446 [08:21] <clarjon1> Yeah, which don't exist.
#447 [08:23] <CosmicVoyager> clarjon1: To do it in windows you make a laucnher file with java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe similar to allocating more memory, but on Mac you modify the Info,plist. For example for memerory you put <key>VMOptions</key> <string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M</string>. I need to know what to put n the plist for IPv4
#448 [08:24] <CosmicVoyager> Im running Java 7
#449 [08:25] <CosmicVoyager> Here is Mac Minecraft Info.plist http://pastie.org/5846697
#450 [08:27] <zen> CosmicVoyager: just add -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true after "<string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M" but before the </string> tag
#451 [08:28] <CosmicVoyager> zen: You can put a command in there liek that? There are no other commands, only keys.
#452 [08:29] <zen> sigh
#453 [08:29] <CosmicVoyager> the memory string is under VMOptions, is IPv4 a VMOptions?
#454 [08:30] <zen> replace <string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M</string> with <string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true</string>
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#456 [08:31] <CosmicVoyager> zen: now minecraft will not laucnh
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#458 [08:32] <zen> :|
#459 [08:32] <zen> That should have worked..
#460 [08:32] <CosmicVoyager> nvm..typo...it lauches...still cant connect
#461 [08:32] <CosmicVoyager> guess that is not the problem
#462 [08:32] <zen> ??> CosmicVoyager mac/hosts
#463 [08:32] <VoxelHead> CosmicVoyager: (mac/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#464 [08:32] <VoxelHead> CosmicVoyager: (mac/hosts) From the finder toolbar, search for the following item: "/private/etc/hosts". Open that file in the text editor, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#465 [08:33] <zen> I doubt this but worth checking.
#466 [08:34] <CosmicVoyager> VoxelHead: http://pastie.org/5846905
#467 [08:38] <CosmicVoyager> Why is Minecraft the only tings affected by whatver the prblem is? What is differentabout Minecraft?
#468 [08:39] <tyteen4a03> zen, java/1.7/ipv6
#469 [08:39] <tyteen4a03> zen, if I remember correctly there's a full command in there
#470 [08:40] <tyteen4a03> !login
#471 [08:41] <CosmicVoyager> I can login to minecraft.net website. What does that mean?
#472 [08:41] <cestislife> It's a java related issue.
#473 [08:41] <zen> CosmicVoyager: delete the last line in the hosts file, then save it
#474 [08:41] <zen> odd entry...
#475 [08:42] <clarjon1> Wow, yeah
#476 [08:42] <zen> Actually no its fine
#477 [08:43] <tyteen4a03> zen, you might also need -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#478 [08:43] <zen> Maybe..
#479 [08:43] * zen is concentrating on the compilers lecture he is in
#479 [08:44] <cestislife> Lecture > This channel
#480 [08:44] <cestislife> :P
#481 [08:44] <Gone_Ralex> ehh
#482 [08:44] * tyteen4a03 goes back to dealing with Harvard application because admission wouldn't tell me what is missing from my app
#482 [08:45] <CosmicVoyager> grr...Hosts is a system file and it says i dont have permission to save
#483 [08:45] <zen> ouch :p
#484 [08:45] <zen> CosmicVoyager: dont worry
#485 [08:45] <zen> It doesnt matter
#486 [08:46] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, try this: replace whatever you have on the VMOptions line with <string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false</string>
#487 [08:47] <CosmicVoyager> i did that when tyteen said it
#488 [08:48] <clarjon1> CosmicVoyager: There's an extra option in what tyteen4a03 recommended, that wasn't in the earlier suggestion.
#489 [08:48] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, can you access login.minecraft.net via browser, and tell me what the browser says?
#490 [08:48] <CosmicVoyager> Bad request
#491 [08:49] <CosmicVoyager> if i enter username and pass, it logs me in
#492 [08:49] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, Java 6 or 7?
#493 [08:49] <CosmicVoyager> c7
#494 [08:49] <CosmicVoyager> 7
#495 [08:49] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, username please?
#496 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> clarjon1: what? ihave <string>-Xms512M -Xmx2048M -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false</string>
#497 [08:50] <tyteen4a03> (note to self: start following troubleshooting in logical order)
#498 [08:50] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, that is correct
#499 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> tyteen4a03: cosmicvoyager@gmail.com
#500 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> tyteen4a03: migrated
#501 [08:50] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, your Minecraft username
#502 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> mailto:cosmicvoyager@gmail.com
#503 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> it the email
#504 [08:50] <clarjon1> No,not the mojang account name, the minecraft username
#505 [08:50] <CosmicVoyager> cosmicvoyager
#506 [08:51] <tyteen4a03> okay, hang on
#507 [08:51] <CosmicVoyager> it is not even trying teh username/pas it cant connect to mnecraft.net
#508 [08:51] * tyteen4a03 is still trying to deal with Harvard admission as we speak
#508 [08:52] <CosmicVoyager> i have tried with other accounts too
#509 [08:52] <clarjon1> hm.
#510 [08:53] <CosmicVoyager> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#511 [08:53] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, all I can suggest at the moment is to uninstall Java 7 and reinstall it
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#513 [08:53] <clarjon1> Can you do that on a mac? I thought that java came pre-installed, or did Apple stop that behaviour...
#514 [08:54] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, still preinstalled, but reinstallation is possble I assume
#515 [08:54] <tyteen4a03> or, they stopped bundling since java 7
#516 [08:54] * clarjon1 goes to look it up.
#516 [08:54] <clarjon1> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_mac.xml
#517 [08:54] <tyteen4a03> >xml
#518 [08:54] <CosmicVoyager> i can choose java 6 or 7 in java prefs
#519 [08:55] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, choose Java 6
#520 [08:55] <clarjon1> tyteen4a03: Check out that page's source. Think oracle uses enough whitespacing?
#521 [08:55] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, they can certainly use more
#522 [08:56] <CosmicVoyager> i tried 6 earlier an it didnt work and i tried it again just now
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#524 [08:57] <CosmicVoyager> ill rebott with 6
#525 [08:57] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, when you're back we'll try something else
#526 [08:57] <clarjon1> I wonder if downloading the jar launcher, and running it via Terminal.app would give better results, or at least some error messages to help debug...
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#530 [08:58] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, I lack sufficient knowledge to answer that question
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#534 [09:00] <CosmicVoyager> booting with java 6 did not fix it
#535 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1, ding
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#539 [09:03] <clarjon1> hlo
#540 [09:04] <CosmicVoyager> Logs from when I try to log in: http://pastie.org/5847353
#541 [09:05] <tyteen4a03> SSL issue, hmm
#542 [09:05] * tyteen4a03 will be away for a bit while trying to deal with admissions scanning and while discovering Dido's Thank You
#542 [09:06] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, can you try running this command in your terminal: sudo keytool -storepasswd -new changeit -keystore /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts -storepass changeme
#543 [09:07] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, of course do change the changeit and changeme parameters
#544 [09:09] <CosmicVoyager> i do not know what you mean
#545 [09:09] <CosmicVoyager> change?
#546 [09:09] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, there are two places that are marked with "changeit" and "changeme"
#547 [09:09] <tyteen4a03> change it to something secure
#548 [09:11] <CosmicVoyager> keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Keystore file exists, but is empty: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts
#549 [09:12] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, what version of OSX are you using?
#550 [09:12] <CosmicVoyager> 10.6.3
#551 [09:12] <CosmicVoyager> oops 10.6.8
#552 [09:13] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, run this command first: sudo keytool -storepasswd -new changeit -keystore then this command: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts -storepass changeme
#553 [09:15] <CosmicVoyager> tyteen4a03: for the first one it says "Command option -keystore needs an argument."
#554 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, oh, and don't change the command this time, just keep everything as is
#555 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> uh
#556 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, ok, forget everything and just enter sudo keytool -storepasswd -new changeit -keystore /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts -storepass changeme
#557 [09:16] <CosmicVoyager> keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Keystore file exists, but is empty: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/Deploy.bundle/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts
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#562 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, hang on
#563 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, can you open /etc/java-6-sun/security/java.security and pastebin whatever is in there?
#564 [09:22] <CosmicVoyager> etc at the root? there is no java folder there
#565 [09:23] <CosmicVoyager> there is securoty folder
#566 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, yes, at the root
#567 [09:23] <CosmicVoyager> it has 5 audit files
#568 [09:23] <CosmicVoyager> there is no java folder or security file
#569 [09:24] <CosmicVoyager> there is etc/security/
#570 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, sorry, I meant /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Home
#571 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, please also pastebin java.policy
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#574 [09:26] <CosmicVoyager> System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Home has bin bundle include lib man
#575 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, try /Library/Java/Home/lib/security
#576 [09:28] <CosmicVoyager> i just serached foe java.policy
#577 [09:28] <CosmicVoyager> it is inside the Vm
#578 [09:28] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, java.security should be next to java.policy
#579 [09:29] <CosmicVoyager> ok it is inside 1.7.0.jre
#580 [09:30] <CosmicVoyager> tyteen4a03: http://pastie.org/5847619
#581 [09:31] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, ding
#582 [09:31] <Lord_Ralex> looking
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#584 [09:33] <Lord_Ralex> seems fine there
#585 [09:33] <CosmicVoyager> tyteen4a03: java.policy http://pastie.org/5847629
#586 [09:35] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, you mentioned that you have two versions of java installed, can you try uninstalling Java 7 and repaste the java.security file?
#587 [09:35] <CosmicVoyager> dont understand why it would suddenly stop working without installing anyting new
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#589 [09:35] <CosmicVoyager> i have secorty files for both versions
#590 [09:35] <CosmicVoyager> that is from java 7 dir
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#593 [09:37] <CosmicVoyager> from java 6 http://pastie.org/5847699
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#596 [09:41] <CosmicVoyager> tyt ok i have established that Minecraft is using my Java 6 becuase it i only enable java 7, minecraft will not launch
#597 [09:41] <Lord_Ralex> you can edit those files, correct?
#598 [09:42] <CosmicVoyager> ya
#599 [09:42] <Lord_Ralex> make a backup of this file
#600 [09:42] <CosmicVoyager> oops...it is sytem file
#601 [09:42] <Lord_Ralex> you will need to edit these, so you will need to have elevated perms
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#603 [09:43] <Lord_Ralex> (have no idea how macs do that .-._
#604 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, same as ubuntu really
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#607 [09:44] <CosmicVoyager> ok i can edit now
#608 [09:44] <Lord_Ralex> okay
#609 [09:44] <Lord_Ralex> make a backup of this file
#610 [09:44] <Lord_Ralex> so just save a copy elsewhere
#611 [09:45] <CosmicVoyager> ok
#612 [09:45] <CosmicVoyager> done
#613 [09:45] <Lord_Ralex> once you do that, replace this file with the one from Java 7 (the java.security)
#614 [09:47] <CosmicVoyager> done
#615 [09:47] <Lord_Ralex> see if minecraft works quickly
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#617 [09:48] <tyteen4a03> somebody please tell me how it is possible to lose documents you just dug up 5 minutes ago
#618 [09:49] <Lord_Ralex> memory loss
#619 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> also new mood song get: Dido - Thank You
#620 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I suppose
#621 [09:49] <CosmicVoyager> mope
#622 [09:49] <CosmicVoyager> nope
#623 [09:49] <Lord_Ralex> CosmicVoyager, do you see a sunpkcs11.macosx.cfg file there?
#624 [09:49] <Lord_Ralex> sunpkcs11-macosx.cfg*
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#626 [09:51] <CosmicVoyager> lor yes
#627 [09:51] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: yes
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#629 [09:51] <Lord_Ralex> okay, restore that backup you made then
#630 [09:51] <CosmicVoyager> http://pastie.org/5847783
#631 [09:52] <CosmicVoyager> done
#632 [09:54] <Lord_Ralex> /usr/libexec/SmartCardServices/pkcs11/tokendPKCS11.so does exist, correct?
#633 [09:56] <CosmicVoyager> yes
#634 [09:57] <Lord_Ralex> attempting to locate a solution for this that does not require coding >_>
#635 [09:57] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: Why do you think this suddenlt started happening?
#636 [09:57] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: WHat changed?
#637 [09:57] <Lord_Ralex> CosmicVoyager, do you know of any changes you have made recently?
#638 [09:58] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: nope
#639 [09:58] <Lord_Ralex> have you redownloaded the launcher?
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#641 [09:58] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: yes i redownloaded to try to fix
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#643 [10:00] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: so you saw the console errors? Caused by: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing implementation (algorithm: Default, provider: SunJSSE, class: com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.DefaultSSLContextImpl)
#644 [10:00] <Lord_Ralex> yes, i saw them
#645 [10:02] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: what dies it mean?
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#647 [10:03] <Lord_Ralex> hmm
#648 [10:04] <Lord_Ralex> do you know how to run jars?
#649 [10:04] <CosmicVoyager> double-click?
#650 [10:05] <Lord_Ralex> do you know how to using terminal?
#651 [10:05] <CosmicVoyager> i dont remeber the command..i use terminal..i run a server
#652 [10:05] <CosmicVoyager> and i cant login to my server!
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#654 [10:05] <Lord_Ralex> can you download the minecraft.jar launcher?
#655 [10:05] <Lord_Ralex> and run it
#656 [10:06] <CosmicVoyager> i have the luancher right? you can tell me what to type?
#657 [10:06] <CosmicVoyager> why download it if i have it?
#658 [10:06] <CosmicVoyager> i must have it to play right?
#659 [10:07] <Lord_Ralex> each launcher is actually a bit different
#660 [10:07] <Lord_Ralex> tiny differences
#661 [10:08] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: hey, ii just double-clicked MinecraftLauncher.jar and i got past Login...then got errors
#662 [10:08] <Lord_Ralex> so it let you log in?
#663 [10:09] <CosmicVoyager> not sure...screen went black then got crash window
#664 [10:09] <Lord_Ralex> can you pastebin that
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#666 [10:10] <Timberwolf> I need help
#667 [10:10] <Timberwolf> When I try to buy Minecraft
#668 [10:10] <Timberwolf> Thank you for your interest in our site but we are unable to accept your registration at this time..
#669 [10:10] <Timberwolf> it says that
#670 [10:10] <CosmicVoyager> http://pastie.org/5847862
#671 [10:10] <Lord_Ralex> CosmicVoyager, well, huh
#672 [10:10] <Lord_Ralex> interesting
#673 [10:10] <Lord_Ralex> that one is easier to at least explain
#674 [10:10] <Lord_Ralex> Mac + Java 7 + Lwjgl do not get along
#675 [10:11] <Timberwolf> Can anyone help me?
#676 [10:11] <Timberwolf> I can't buy Minecraft at the moment now
#677 [10:11] <Lord_Ralex> You should use Java 6 CosmicVoyager
#678 [10:11] <Timberwolf> Thank you for your interest in our site but we are unable to accept your registration at this time..
#679 [10:11] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Timberwolf patience
#680 [10:11] <VoxelHead> Timberwolf: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#681 [10:11] <VoxelHead> Timberwolf: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#682 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Timberwolf, Mojang Accounts?
#683 [10:11] <Timberwolf> Yes
#684 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> Timberwolf, what email provider are you using?
#685 [10:12] <Timberwolf> Gmail
#686 [10:12] <Lord_Ralex> CosmicVoyager, just for curiousity, does running the app still cause the issue with looging in? while running the jar does not?
#687 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> Timberwolf, Mojang servers may be having problems at the moment, please try again after 24 hours
#688 [10:12] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: correct
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#690 [10:12] <Lord_Ralex> huh
#691 [10:13] <Lord_Ralex> well, another one for the books, probably something Macs do
#692 [10:13] <Timberwolf> tyteen4103 well it's a different website that is messing up. I'm using a OneVanilla visa, and every time before this it said that the bank didn't accept my card...
#693 [10:13] <bezaban> SSL handshake to mc login servers is failing today. Did they change the certificate?
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#695 [10:13] <Lord_Ralex> bezaban, are you on a mac ?
#696 [10:13] <bezaban> Lord_Ralex: nope
#697 [10:13] <Lord_Ralex> darn
#698 [10:13] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: i have software that requires java 7
#699 [10:13] <Lord_Ralex> there went that .-.
#700 [10:14] <Lord_Ralex> CosmicVoyager, Lwjgl (which is needed to run minecraft) has issues on Macs running java 7
#701 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> Timberwolf, huh?
#702 [10:14] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: huh?
#703 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> CosmicVoyager, told you we have the same mindset :P
#704 [10:14] <Lord_Ralex> basically Macs + Java 7 + Minecraft = that error
#705 [10:15] <CosmicVoyager> people unecessarlity compiling plugins in 7
#706 [10:15] <Lord_Ralex> then yell at the dev ?
#707 [10:15] <Lord_Ralex> (i did that once)
#708 [10:16] <Lord_Ralex> (and did the compile to j7 once as well and got yelled at)
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#711 [10:17] <bezaban> the ssl issue seems unrelated to mac and java 7
#712 [10:17] <Lord_Ralex> bezaban, i am not having an issue atm with mine
#713 [10:17] <bezaban> the vanilla launcher works fine though
#714 [10:17] <person1658> so, i was trying to download a mod and i cant get any more mods on with Magic Launcher.
#715 [10:17] <Lord_Ralex> bezaban, then it is w/e launcher you are using
#716 [10:18] <bezaban> others throw a SSLHandshakeException
#717 [10:18] <Lord_Ralex> we don't support non-vanilla launchers because we don't know what they do
#718 [10:18] <person1658> is there a chat for mod help?
#719 [10:18] <person1658> eh, im going to leave
#720 [10:18] <bezaban> I know, which is why I'm asking of the cert has changed
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#722 [10:18] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: look i did not change anything...tis started yesterday when the mojang web page said something about having difficulties
#723 [10:19] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: could they have changed somethign that caused this?
#724 [10:19] <Lord_Ralex> then maybe they did something on their end, tbh idk
#725 [10:19] <Lord_Ralex> if they did, then it could explain the problems people keep having
#726 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> Dinnerbone, are you aware of any SSL certificate changes with Mojang.com?
#727 [10:19] <bezaban> thank you
#728 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> next on list to poke: Marc_IRL
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#730 [10:21] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, based on things in mcf, looks like it
#731 [10:21] <Lord_Ralex> although want to do some testing with it
#732 [10:21] <person1658> im going to help
#733 [10:21] <person1658> lol
#734 [10:21] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, some appear to have said it expired
#735 [10:22] <Lord_Ralex> bezaban, got a test
#736 [10:22] <person1658> DANG
#737 [10:22] <person1658> bye
#738 [10:22] <CosmicVoyager> Lord_Ralex: i dont know why the crasj report says java 7. i have java 7 off. java -version shows 1.6
#739 [10:22] <Lord_Ralex> change your time back to some day before the 23rd
#740 [10:22] <tyteen4a03> that was... weird?
#741 [10:22] <bezaban> good idea
#742 [10:22] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, yep
#743 [10:23] <Lord_Ralex> Mollstam tweeted about it
#744 [10:23] <Lord_Ralex> http://twitter.com/mollstam/status/294395313324687360
#745 [10:23] <Lord_Ralex> done 4 hours ago
#746 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> so bezaban and CosmicVoyager: there goes your answer
#747 [10:24] <Lord_Ralex> workaround appears to be setting computer time back to before it expried
#748 [10:24] <Lord_Ralex> if that is true, then we just have to see if that works
#749 [10:24] <bezaban> goody. nothing malicious though
#750 [10:24] <bezaban> thanks
#751 [10:24] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, does explain yesterday actually
#752 [10:24] <Lord_Ralex> with all those cannot connect peopel
#753 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, SO pointed me to http://portecle.sourceforge.net/
#754 [10:25] <bezaban> now I need to grab a copy of that cert
#755 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> SO says this software helps make java tolerate expired cert, now if only I have time to learn how to use it
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#757 [10:26] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, what is SO?
#758 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, stack overflow
#759 [10:27] <Lord_Ralex> oh
#760 [10:27] <Lord_Ralex> tyteen4a03, reference to mine was http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/967917-how-to-fix-minecraft-cannot-connect-to-minecraftnet/
#761 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, fixing date and time has always been a fix to can't connect to MC.net
#762 [10:28] <Lord_Ralex> .-.
#763 [10:28] <Lord_Ralex> i hate 2013
#764 [10:29] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, so it looks like the same thing happened last year
#765 [10:29] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, makes sense
#766 [10:29] <Lord_Ralex> certs last a year, don't they?
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#768 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, I think there are options to make them last longer or something
#769 [10:30] <Dinnerbone> tyteen4a03: we changed certs earlier today
#770 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> Dinnerbone, noted
#771 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> .sitedown Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#772 [10:33] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03, I will now give that message to anyone joining #minecrafthelp.
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#774 [10:36] <bezaban> how can I get a copy of that cert?
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#776 [10:38] <VoxelHead> iPeer, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
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#778 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Grimlock257, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#779 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> ??+ win/synctime|This is a tutorial on how to sync time with an Internet Time Server. We recommend pool.ntp.org over the default server used by Windows.;;How to sync time on Windows: http://mintywhite.com/windows-7/7maintenance/windows-seven-7-sync-system-clock-with-internet-time-how-to/
#780 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, is this tutorial accurate? http://www.macinstruct.com/node/92
#781 [10:39] <Lord_Ralex> no idea .-.
#782 [10:39] <Lord_Ralex> don't have a mac
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#784 [10:39] <VoxelHead> KindOne, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#785 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> Lord_Ralex, oh, I thought you did
#786 [10:39] <Lord_Ralex> nope
#787 [10:39] <Lord_Ralex> i just have a pc
#788 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> ??+ mac/synctime|Here is a tutorial on how to sync time with an Internet Time Server on a Mac. We recommend pool.ntp.org as your NTP server.;;How to sync time on Macs: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/92
#789 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> ??~ win/synctime|Here is a tutorial on how to sync time with an Internet Time Server. We recommend pool.ntp.org as your NTP server over the default server used by Windows.;;How to sync time on Windows: http://mintywhite.com/windows-7/7maintenance/windows-seven-7-sync-system-clock-with-internet-time-how-to/
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#791 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> ??+ linux/synctime|Run this command in the terminal as root for a quick time sync: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
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#793 [10:48] <VoxelHead> KindOne, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#794 [10:50] <bezaban> ntpd -q on machines that act as time servers :)
#795 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> ??+ linux/synctime|Run this command in the terminal if you have ntpd installed: ntpd -q;;Otherwise, run this command in the terminal as root for a quick time sync: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
#796 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> ??~ linux/synctime|Run this command in the terminal if you have ntpd installed: ntpd -q;;Otherwise, run this command in the terminal as root for a quick time sync: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
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#799 [11:07] <VoxelHead> oldtopman, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
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#801 [11:07] <VoxelHead> Calinou, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#802 [11:11] <Calinou> real men use NTP so that their real CPUs are 100% used for real, amirite
#803 [11:12] <tyteen4a03> Calinou, the power of using the power
#804 [11:23] <bezaban> aquired the new cert :)
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#806 [11:26] <VoxelHead> LaxWasHere, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#807 [11:26] <Lord_Ralex> that gets annoying .-.
#808 [11:26] <Selbram> I am okay with it. It means we get to yell at anyone who asks about the login problems.
#809 [11:27] <Selbram> I mean, point to that statement. We don't yell :)
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#811 [11:30] <VoxelHead> PeePee, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#812 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> for some reason I despise the emotion .-.
#813 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> the - instead of _ looks plain weird here, like some morse code
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#815 [11:33] <Calinou> .-. = inverted â‹…-â‹… :3
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#817 [11:33] <VoxelHead> benhunter09, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
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#819 [11:37] <VoxelHead> Lykkepillen, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#820 [11:38] <Lykkepillen> Hey guys, I'm trying to block someone from access to my server but my iptables seems to fail.. Anyone have experience using iptables with fail2ban?
#821 [11:38] <Lykkepillen> Fail2ban put "DROP all -- 49.212.112.104 anywhere" in my iptables, but the guy is still trying to bruteforce my server
#822 [11:39] <worldmc> ??> Lykkepillen mods
#823 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Lykkepillen: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#824 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Lykkepillen: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#825 [11:41] <Lord_Ralex> worldmc, you do what those are, right ;)
#826 [11:41] <Selbram> Umm, that is not a mods question
#827 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, how is iptables a mod?
#828 [11:42] <Selbram> a little off topic and more linux sysadmin question but not a mod
#829 [11:42] <worldmc> quote¨experience using iptables with fail2ban¨ so i thought that it was a mod
#830 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> worldmc, fail2ban may be a mod but you should be able to tell iptables is not
#831 [11:43] <Selbram> iptables is a linux firewall, fail2ban is a instursion detection script that automatically updates iptables when it sees an attackl
#832 [11:43] <Lykkepillen> Sorry for the misunderstanding - It's as Selbram says a linux based questing, was just hoping someone in here might know :)
#833 [11:44] <Lykkepillen> question*
#834 [11:44] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, I saw you posting in #bukkit, if your iptables says it is dropping the ip in question then it is.
#835 [11:44] <worldmc> well sorry for my fast reaction. i thought that you were using mods
#836 [11:44] <oldtopman> Lykkepillen: How do you know he's still trying to bruteforce you?
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#838 [11:44] <VoxelHead> ImmaPwn, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#839 [11:45] <ImmaPwn> i keep crashing when i receive damage falling or lava?
#840 [11:45] <ImmaPwn> how do i fix this?
#841 [11:45] <Selbram> is your client modded?
#842 [11:45] <ImmaPwn> no
#843 [11:45] <Lord_Ralex> ??< index
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#845 [11:46] <Calinou> ImmaPwn: singleplayer or multiplayer?
#846 [11:46] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: try reject instead of drop?
#847 [11:46] <Calinou> or just shut down server until dem guy gets bored.
#848 [11:46] <Calinou> that'll ALWAYS work
#849 [11:47] <Selbram> reject makes your server respond, drop just drops
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#851 [11:47] <VoxelHead> Zyferus, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#852 [11:47] * oldtopman uses the iptables command for such matters, but I suspect something else is awry
#852 [11:47] <Lykkepillen> Selbram: Yea was hoping to get more responses from here :) But he is still trying to get in through various usernames..
#853 [11:48] <Calinou> ban his IP
#854 [11:48] <Calinou> /ban-ip <his ip>
#855 [11:48] <Selbram> you could set online-mode=true
#856 [11:48] <Calinou> ^
#857 [11:48] <Calinou> hehehe
#858 [11:48] <Selbram> that normally fixes it
#859 [11:48] <Lykkepillen> oldtopman: He's constantly trying to access SSH though various usernames.. I can see it in my access log
#860 [11:49] <Lykkepillen> Selbram: My online mode is true - It's a SSH attack
#861 [11:49] <Selbram> ahh
#862 [11:49] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: you aren't running your MC server as root, no? :3
#863 [11:49] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: you could try using the TCP wrapper daemon
#864 [11:49] <Calinou> then 1) change SSH port, 2) use a stronger password or keys
#865 [11:49] <oldtopman> Lykkepillen: In such an event, try this - "iptables -A INPUT -s <ip address> -j DROP"
#866 [11:49] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, use your hosts.deny file to block him
#867 [11:49] <DopeGhoti> it auto-adds hosts to /etc/hosts.deny after X failed logins to any service
#868 [11:49] <Calinou> why do people still run a ssh server on port 21..
#869 [11:49] <oldtopman> Then work on getting fail2ban working
#870 [11:49] <oldtopman> Calinou: 22.
#871 [11:49] <Calinou> 22*
#872 [11:49] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: because security through obscurity is neither?
#873 [11:49] <Selbram> ^
#874 [11:50] <DopeGhoti> the right question is "why do people still use password authentication for SSH?"
#875 [11:50] <Calinou> DopeGhoti: changing SSH port reduces attacks by like 80%
#876 [11:50] <Lykkepillen> Calinou: He has been trying for a while, and i don't think he's going to stop because i shutdown the server.. He has been trying like 12K times now with different usernames and passes
#877 [11:50] <Calinou> it's not obscurity, it's security
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#879 [11:50] <VoxelHead> aritzh, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#880 [11:50] <Calinou> consider it as a "noob filter"
#881 [11:50] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: again: tcpwrappers
#882 [11:50] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: ah, so only the skilled attackers find you
#883 [11:50] <DopeGhoti> good plan
#884 [11:50] <Calinou> DopeGhoti: yes :-)
#885 [11:50] <Selbram> lol
#886 [11:50] <Lykkepillen> I'm not running the server as root, and my root is protected - My serveruser is not tho (you can connect through password)
#887 [11:50] <Calinou> better than nothing
#888 [11:51] <Lykkepillen> DopeGhoti: What is that? And i still think fail2ban should work.. :(
#889 [11:51] <Calinou> use a very strong password if you don't want to use keys, at least like 50 characters :P
#890 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: might want to whip up some RSA keys and remedy that.
#891 [11:51] <oldtopman> Lykkepillen: Did you try the command I sent you?
#892 [11:51] <oldtopman> ^
#893 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> for best results, use keys that have a passphrase.
#894 [11:51] <Selbram> I don't understand why his iptables is not blocking the guy
#895 [11:51] <Lykkepillen> oldtopman: That works like a charm, but I can't keep banning the guy.. He's using proxies
#896 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> that way even if you lose the key, you're still secure.
#897 [11:51] <Lykkepillen> Thats why i installed fail2ban
#898 [11:51] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: tcpwrappers will take care of that for you
#899 [11:52] <Selbram> I use denyhosts and fail2ban
#900 [11:52] <Selbram> one or both catch the noobs
#901 [11:52] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: deny ANYONE that is not you?
#902 [11:52] <Calinou> temporarily
#903 [11:52] <Calinou> (is it possible?)
#904 [11:52] <Selbram> are you local to the server or is it remote
#905 [11:52] <oldtopman> Lykkepillen: "Fail2ban fails to protect against a distributed brute force attack."
#906 [11:52] <Lykkepillen> Calinou: Can't do that - Running websites, mailservers, MC and TF2 servers.. Would be a shame to shut everyone out :P
#907 [11:52] <oldtopman> Lykkepillen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail2ban
#908 [11:53] <Selbram> Does anyone else use ssh to connect or just you?
#909 [11:53] <DopeGhoti> sigh
#910 [11:53] <Lykkepillen> Selbram: A few admins yea
#911 [11:53] <Lykkepillen> DopeGhoti: Dw I'm looking at it! :P
#912 [11:54] <Selbram> The easiest way to stop temporarily it to change to port
#913 [11:54] <Selbram> the port
#914 [11:54] <Selbram> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
#915 [11:54] <Lykkepillen> But i need a permanent solution
#916 [11:54] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: set it so that upon say five failed SSH logins, the host is added to hosts.deny for _all_ services. done and done.
#917 [11:55] <Selbram> lookup denyhosts
#918 [11:55] <Selbram> it is a python script that runs as a service that will auto add to hosts.deny
#919 [11:56] <Selbram> What distro are you running by the way?
#920 [11:56] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: How do you do that?
#921 [11:56] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: do that temporarily at least? and just for ssh, not for everything
#922 [11:57] <DopeGhoti> Selbram: that's what tcpwrappers uses (:
#923 [11:57] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: changing the port is a fairly good security actually
#924 [11:57] <Calinou> minediots and chinese people don't know how to port scan :p
#925 [11:57] <Selbram> DopeGhoti, yup
#926 [11:57] <Selbram> between tcpwrappers and iptables my servers stay safe
#927 [11:58] <Selbram> I have only had one "break in" and it was through a lame ftp server.
#928 [11:58] <Selbram> and my monitor scripts told me within minutes so I was able to "correct" the issue
#929 [11:58] <DopeGhoti> I usually leave an open FTP server up just to collect free movies.
#930 [11:58] <oldtopman> XD
#931 [11:58] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Aren't you afraid of people putting more...illicit things on there?
#932 [11:59] <Calinou> lol
#933 [11:59] <Selbram> new game
#934 [11:59] <Selbram> :)
#935 [11:59] <DopeGhoti> cron `rm`s all non-{mov|avi|divx|xvid|m4g|mp4|mpg} files hourly
#936 [11:59] <Selbram> LOL
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#938 [12:00] <VoxelHead> xales, welcome to #minecrafthelp. Today is the annual "Mojang SSL Certificate Expiration Day"! If you are having trouble connecting to Minecraft.net, please fix your time and date. Thank you!
#939 [12:00] <DopeGhoti> .siteup
#940 [12:00] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti, I will stop addressing everyone who joins #minecrafthelp.
#941 [12:00] <DopeGhoti> the cert expires in 2014, you nutter.
#942 [12:00] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#943 [12:00] <Selbram> LOL
#944 [12:00] <Calinou> DopeGhoti: lol, noone uses ogv/webm :-D
#945 [12:01] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: I forgot .ogg/.ogv but those exceptions are there
#946 [12:01] <DopeGhoti> and .ogt
#947 [12:01] <DopeGhoti> Would that Ogg Theora were more popular. it's a great codec.
#948 [12:02] <Calinou> +1 mainly because it's not patented
#949 [12:02] <Lykkepillen> DopeGhoti: Going for tcpwrappers but i can't seem to find a way to install it.. Does it have another name then tcpwrapper(s)?
#950 [12:02] <Calinou> not seeing mp3/mp4 anymore: not for today ;-)
#951 [12:03] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, it is already installed
#952 [12:03] <Selbram> what is your distro
#953 [12:03] <Lykkepillen> Oh
#954 [12:03] <Lykkepillen> debian
#955 [12:03] <DopeGhoti> on debian-descendants I think it's called denyhosts
#956 [12:03] <Selbram> you should have a file called /etc/hosts.deny
#957 [12:03] <xales> DopeGhoti: denyhosts is something separate
#958 [12:03] <Lykkepillen> So i need to write the script for the automatic detection to work?
#959 [12:03] <Selbram> fireing up the debian vm
#960 [12:03] <xales> it's script that processes logs and adds malicious hosts to /etc/hosts.deny
#961 [12:04] <xales> (or whatever other file it's configured to use)
#962 [12:04] <DopeGhoti> xales: we know (:
#963 [12:04] <Selbram> just a sec and I will get you instructions if not a website
#964 [12:04] <xales> okay
#965 [12:04] <Morrolan> I'll get you a website, even!
#966 [12:04] * Morrolan drags www.google.com in here
#966 [12:04] * Morrolan drags www.google.com in here
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#967 [12:05] <Selbram> holy crap, you pulled out the google
#968 [12:05] <xales> it's separate from tcpwrappers, which is what actually processes /etc/hosts{,.allow,.deny}
#969 [12:05] * xales is not following the conversation and so is not sure what you're looking for
#969 [12:05] <Lykkepillen> Oh i just had to search for denyhosts instead of tcpwrapper..
#970 [12:05] <xales> but either way installing denyhosts would bring tcpwrappers in as a depedency
#971 [12:05] <Calinou> blasphemy, Selbram doesn't actually run linux
#972 [12:05] <Selbram> apt-get install denyhosts
#973 [12:06] <Selbram> Calinou, dude, I run everything but mac
#974 [12:06] <Lykkepillen> Much better
#975 [12:06] <Selbram> Calinou, the fact that I have to run a vm to get a debian flavor up means my hosts system is not debian
#976 [12:06] <Selbram> :)
#977 [12:06] <DopeGhoti> Selbram: why not Darwin? It's just BSD with a candy shell.
#978 [12:07] <oldtopman> huh
#979 [12:07] <Selbram> don't have the hardware to do it "legal"
#980 [12:07] * oldtopman hands DopeGhoti a few spare internets
#980 [12:07] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, did that work for you
#981 [12:07] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Thanks for the tip on denyhosts, I'll be installing that when I get some time.
#982 [12:07] <Selbram> default configs should work out of the box
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#984 [12:08] <Selbram> I am the one who mentioned it originally!
#985 [12:08] <Selbram> bah
#986 [12:08] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: anytime (:
#987 [12:08] <Selbram> :)
#988 [12:08] * oldtopman throws Selbram some internets too
#988 [12:08] <DopeGhoti> Selbram: teamwork o/
#989 [12:08] <Lykkepillen> Selbram: Just looking through the config file
#990 [12:08] <dj22> i can not get minecraft.net to allow me purchase game, any suggestions?
#991 [12:09] <xales> dj22: Why "won't it let you"?
#992 [12:09] <DopeGhoti> dj22: what happens when you try? what means are you using to purchase?
#993 [12:09] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, you use the sync upload and download to get more ips to block as well
#994 [12:09] <dj22> website times out
#995 [12:09] <Lykkepillen> Will DenyHosts ban the guy if he keeps changing the username he tries to login with?
#996 [12:09] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: yes, because it's going from the IP address
#997 [12:09] <dj22> using the purchase button from store
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#999 [12:09] <Calinou> Lykkepillen: yes
#1000 [12:09] <Selbram> Lykkepillen, yes
#1001 [12:09] <Lykkepillen> Great
#1002 [12:10] <Selbram> I should already be running, every time he proxy hops within a few tries he should be blocked
#1003 [12:10] <Selbram> he will get bored much faster this way
#1004 [12:10] <Morrolan> I doubt that, with 10k tries, he's doing it manually. :P
#1005 [12:10] <Calinou> what if you buy keyboards from razer
#1006 [12:11] <Selbram> lol
#1007 [12:11] <Calinou> disconnect the attacker from the internet
#1008 [12:11] <Calinou> his keyboard will stop working :D
#1009 [12:11] <Selbram> Your logs will be easier to read
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#1011 [12:13] <Lykkepillen> This guy has a weird bruteforce list.. user=djblueinfo
#1012 [12:13] <Lutzee> My razer keyboard works without internet >:D
#1013 [12:13] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: it's probably every known compromised user name he's used/encountered.
#1014 [12:14] <DopeGhoti> plus the usual suspects (root/nobody/apache/httpd/mysql, &c.)
#1015 [12:14] <Lykkepillen> But they all makes sense, theres no random ones
#1016 [12:14] <Lykkepillen> diet, dicht, device, dieter
#1017 [12:14] <Lykkepillen> It's like a normal word-list
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#1019 [12:15] <Lutzee> You can randomly string together real words into usernames :)
#1020 [12:15] <Selbram> no way!
#1021 [12:16] <icer> dose any one know how to force update the game I dont have the force update on the screen
#1022 [12:16] <Lykkepillen> But It's not like he's trying diet, dieu, diev and so on
#1023 [12:16] <Lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#1024 [12:16] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1025 [12:16] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1026 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> failing that
#1027 [12:17] <Lykkepillen> Anyway! It added him to hosts.deny right away so i think it worked! Thanks everyone! :D
#1028 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> icer win/reinst
#1029 [12:17] <VoxelHead> icer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1030 [12:17] <VoxelHead> icer: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1031 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: pleased to be of service!
#1032 [12:17] <DopeGhoti> Lykkepillen: that'll be $8. Selbram: We can split it.
#1033 [12:17] <Lykkepillen> Now i better get back to work..
#1034 [12:17] <Selbram> works for me
#1035 [12:17] * [away]hunter09 is now known as benhunter09
#1036 [12:17] <stickypixel> Can I have 1% of royalties?
#1037 [12:17] <Lykkepillen> Haha i would gladly pay you each 8$ :) This guy was pissing me off
#1038 [12:17] <xales> psh
#1039 [12:17] <Calinou> nope.avi
#1040 [12:18] <xales> don't forget my 20% VAT
#1041 [12:18] * xales IRTaxCollector
#1041 [12:18] <Lykkepillen> Anyway.. 20 calls waiting.. better get started..
#1042 [12:18] * Calinou patents blocking IPs with round corners
#1042 [12:18] <Calinou> wait, nvidia has the patent on that already.
#1043 [12:18] <Selbram> damn!
#1044 [12:18] * Calinou buys nvidia and open sources their linux driver by the way
#1044 [12:18] <Calinou> finally
#1045 [12:18] <Selbram> I want going to patent blocking with square corners but they have that too
#1046 [12:18] <DopeGhoti> bout damn time.
#1047 [12:19] <dj22> Internet cannot display the website
#1048 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> dj22: what browser are you using?
#1049 [12:19] <dj22> internet explore
#1050 [12:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> dj22 win/ie
#1051 [12:19] <dj22> explorer
#1052 [12:19] <VoxelHead> dj22: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#1053 [12:19] <VoxelHead> dj22: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#1054 [12:19] <stickypixel> I <3 Chrome.
#1055 [12:20] <dj22> ok i will give it a try
#1056 [12:20] <Calinou> chrome FTL
#1057 [12:20] <dj22> ty
#1058 [12:20] <Calinou> chromium is far better
#1059 [12:20] <stickypixel> Calinou: I'm not on Linux ATM.
#1060 [12:20] <Calinou> and?
#1061 [12:20] <Calinou> there are chromium builds for windows: http://goo.gl/A5jMJ
#1062 [12:20] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: Chromium _and_ Chrome Canary; by their forces combined! (:
#1063 [12:20] <stickypixel> I don't care.
#1064 [12:20] <stickypixel> I use chrome on windows.
#1065 [12:21] <stickypixel> I use dwb on linux.
#1066 [12:21] <stickypixel> :p
#1067 [12:21] <Calinou> chrome is still proprietary spyware
#1068 [12:21] <stickypixel> I have nothing to hide.
#1069 [12:21] <Calinou> you still waste bandwidth
#1070 [12:21] <stickypixel> I have nothing to hide.
#1071 [12:21] <Calinou> same?
#1072 [12:21] <stickypixel> Can we just get over which is better?
#1073 [12:21] <stickypixel> I don't like peer pressure over web browsers.
#1074 [12:22] <Selbram> I use whichever is appropriate for the current situation.
#1075 [12:23] <stickypixel> They're continuing the ArchBSD project.
#1076 [12:23] <stickypixel> I wonder if I should try it.
#1077 [12:24] <stickypixel> Anyone here use Arch?
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#1080 [12:27] <bob> i'm trying to login for the first time. when i do the screen goes blank and closes. help please.
#1081 [12:27] <stickypixel> ??> bob win/dxdiag
#1082 [12:27] <VoxelHead> bob: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1083 [12:27] <VoxelHead> bob: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#1085 [12:28] <stickypixel> I think XChat for windows is dumb.
#1086 [12:28] <stickypixel> For the title of the form, it says YChat instead of XChat.
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#1088 [12:29] <xales> stickypixel: hexchat > xchat
#1089 [12:29] <icer> ty all I found the force update and I am seeing if it will work
#1090 [12:29] <xales> both are still bad
#1091 [12:29] <stickypixel> xales: Free?
#1092 [12:29] <Lutzee> yes hexchat is free
#1093 [12:29] <Lutzee> I use it
#1094 [12:29] <stickypixel> yay :3
#1095 [12:30] <stickypixel> See you guys in 2 minutes.
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#1100 [12:33] <stickypixel> Better.
#1101 [12:33] <stickypixel> Thanks, Xales.
#1102 [12:34] <xales> np
#1103 [12:34] <bob> http://pastebin.com/c8Y7M6Xy
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#1105 [12:34] <xales> bob: your computer doesn't have enough RAM to run Minecraft.
#1106 [12:35] <bob> so now what
#1107 [12:35] <xales> try playing Minecraft on a newer computer
#1108 [12:35] <xales> and, in the future, check the system requirements for games before you try to play them
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#1110 [12:35] <bob> wife got for kid ,not me
#1111 [12:36] <xales> ah, well
#1112 [12:36] <bob> ty
#1113 [12:36] <xales> unfortunately, either way, that computer is (significantly) too old to run Minecraft
#1114 [12:36] <xales> or any modern game
#1115 [12:36] <bob> tellme about it
#1116 [12:36] <xales> you can get a refund within 15 days of purchasing if you can't make it work
#1117 [12:36] <xales> alternatively, use it as an opportunity to invest in a new computer
#1118 [12:37] <bob> how
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#1120 [12:37] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#1121 [12:37] <bob> ty
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#1123 [12:38] <Calinou> xales: 1GB RAM runs minecraft, but not on windows 8)
#1124 [12:38] <Calinou> and mostly multiplayer
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#1126 [12:39] <stickypixel> ??> bob requirements
#1127 [12:39] <VoxelHead> bob: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements, which are belied by its retro style. http://is.gd/mc_requirements
#1128 [12:39] <stickypixel> ??> bob requirements/official
#1129 [12:39] <VoxelHead> bob: (requirements/official) http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1130 [12:39] <Eddie> I've had a lot of trouble with 896 MB of RAM, constant paging, especially when I alt-tab
#1131 [12:40] <icer> how do you add the new red stone update to the game
#1132 [12:40] <stickypixel> icer: Force update?
#1133 [12:40] <icer> I just did that and I still have 1.4.7
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#1135 [12:41] <stickypixel> There is no 1.4.8.
#1136 [12:41] <stickypixel> Just 1.4.7 and snapshots.
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#1138 [12:42] <clarjon1> icer: the new redstone stuff hasn't been released yet for the main game -- it's just in a preview/test stage
#1139 [12:42] <icer> ok so how do I add the snap shots
#1140 [12:42] <stickypixel> icer - Lastest snapshot is 13w04a http://mojang.com/2013/01/minecraft-snapshot-13w04a/
#1141 [12:42] <clarjon1> We don't offer support on that process here, icer.
#1142 [12:43] <maccamac> ive just tried to update my minecraft to the latest snapshot and now it has froze at the updating minecraft page
#1143 [12:43] <icer> ok that I have it for the xbox and I read that it was out for the pc
#1144 [12:43] <stickypixel> clarjon1: Give me a break, this is called minecrafthelp for a reason.
#1145 [12:43] <icer> so I buy the pc one
#1146 [12:43] <clarjon1> stickypixel: Le topic
#1147 [12:43] <clarjon1> stickypixel: "We only support non-modded current releases"
#1148 [12:43] <stickypixel> clarjon1 - Snapshots aren't modded.
#1149 [12:44] <clarjon1> stickypixel: And they're not a current release.
#1150 [12:44] <stickypixel> Yeah, they aren't current.
#1151 [12:44] <Calinou> troll thread -- are snapshorts supported?
#1152 [12:44] <icer> O ok ty for you help
#1153 [12:44] <stickypixel> But its still a release.
#1154 [12:44] <Calinou> Eddie: linux?
#1155 [12:44] <Eddie> yes
#1156 [12:44] <Calinou> windows is designed to eat RAM
#1157 [12:44] <Calinou> also, ubuntu doesn't count
#1158 [12:44] <Calinou> xubuntu does :3
#1159 [12:44] <Eddie> xubuntu isn't exactly very lightweight
#1160 [12:45] <stickypixel> No *buntu is lightweight.
#1161 [12:45] <Eddie> Anyways I am on Ubuntu and I'm using 510 MB
#1162 [12:45] <stickypixel> Same goes for Mint and anything else that is a bloated DE.
#1163 [12:45] <Eddie> Cinnamon, not Unity
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#1165 [12:45] <stickypixel> I like to stick with Arch or Slackware.
#1166 [12:46] <stickypixel> Both I enjoy
#1167 [12:46] <xales> ^
#1168 [12:46] <xales> ??> maccamac forceupdate
#1169 [12:46] <VoxelHead> maccamac: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1170 [12:46] <VoxelHead> maccamac: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1171 [12:46] <stickypixel> I am working really slow on my arch, though.
#1172 [12:46] <stickypixel> I work on it every now and then until I can get a good config.
#1173 [12:46] <xales> heh
#1174 [12:46] <xales> I'm doing the same thing
#1175 [12:47] <xales> well, not with the system overall, just with my WM
#1176 [12:47] <stickypixel> Same.
#1177 [12:47] <stickypixel> I'm mostly working on conky configs and tint2 configs.
#1178 [12:47] <xales> I had a great config, but then awesome updated, and I don't feel like fixing it, so I'm starting from scratch
#1179 [12:47] <Calinou> lol, arch
#1180 [12:47] <stickypixel> Calinou - problem?
#1181 [12:47] * Calinou uses an optimized xubuntu
#1181 [12:47] <xales> "lol arch is hard" problem
#1182 [12:47] <Calinou> removed some startup stuff, disabled compositing
#1183 [12:47] <xales> there's no such thing as optimized ubuntu
#1184 [12:48] <Calinou> haters gonna hate
#1185 [12:48] <Calinou> arch is the AMD of distros
#1186 [12:48] <Calinou> and
#1187 [12:48] <Calinou> and *buntus the nvidia :3
#1188 [12:48] <xales> that analogy makes absolutely no sense
#1189 [12:48] <stickypixel> xales - He's talking about the popularity between the two.
#1190 [12:48] <Eddie> I must agree with xales
#1191 [12:49] <stickypixel> I would rather setup linux on my own with Arch or Gentoo, than use *buntu.
#1192 [12:49] <stickypixel> I do feel bad for myself, since Xubuntu was my first Linux distro.
#1193 [12:49] <xales> stickypixel: ever set up Linux without a distro?
#1194 [12:49] <stickypixel> You have to start somewhere, I guess.
#1195 [12:49] <xales> it's fun...if you like slowly going insane
#1196 [12:49] <stickypixel> xales - No, nor am I prepared.
#1197 [12:49] <Lutzee> Mine was fedora core 5
#1198 [12:49] * Lutzee sighs
#1198 [12:50] <xales> it's not terribly difficult, download kernel and build on another machine, copy it over, do the same for coreutils, etc
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#1200 [12:50] <stickypixel> xales - Wouldn't I have to preinstall some packages on it first, like wifimenu, etc?
#1201 [12:50] <stickypixel> I don't use ethernet cables.
#1202 [12:50] <Calinou> ubuntu 9.10 for me
#1203 [12:50] <stickypixel> Just wifi.
#1204 [12:50] <Calinou> recent linux users
#1205 [12:50] <Calinou> haters gonna hate #2
#1206 [12:50] <xales> you can set up wifi with just the kernel and iwconig
#1207 [12:50] <xales> config*
#1208 [12:51] <Calinou> stickypixel: ethernet has much better speeds and latency, and lower pl
#1209 [12:51] <Calinou> "wire less, slow more"
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#1211 [12:51] <Eddie> Ubuntu 7.10 here :s
#1212 [12:51] <xales> Eddie: lolwut
#1213 [12:51] <Eddie> First distro
#1214 [12:51] <xales> oh
#1215 [12:51] * Calinou uses linux since 3 years ago and he uses xubuntu, nothing wrong with that
#1215 [12:51] <xales> I completely missed that conversation
#1216 [12:51] <Calinou> does anyone whine about windows being easy to use?
#1217 [12:51] <Calinou> nope
#1218 [12:51] <Calinou> also arch isn't faster for file compression/games/whatever
#1219 [12:51] <xales> actually
#1220 [12:51] <xales> it is
#1221 [12:51] <stickypixel> Calinou: I would love to have an ethernet connection, but parents don't like the idea of a lot of cords.
#1222 [12:51] <xales> for games, yes dramatically
#1223 [12:52] <xales> for file compression, it can be, because the kernel isn't configured to be herpderpslurp
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#1225 [12:52] <Eddie> stickypixel: And that's why they cut your umbilical cord
#1226 [12:52] <xales> nor are the applications compiled for lol9386
#1227 [12:52] <xales> loli386*
#1228 [12:52] <stickypixel> Eddie - Hah, got that.
#1229 [12:52] <Eddie> lol
#1230 [12:52] <Lutzee> My parents were the oposite, my Dad has Cat5e routed to every room
#1231 [12:53] <stickypixel> I wouldn't be surprised if I have over 10 ethernet cables.
#1232 [12:53] <stickypixel> Not connected, just lying around everywhere.
#1233 [12:53] <Lutzee> I have a box full
#1234 [12:53] <stickypixel> Every ethernet cable I get goes into this box
#1235 [12:53] <stickypixel> Lutzee - Same :p
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#1237 [12:53] <Lutzee> Eg must be like 30-40 in there, of various lengths
#1238 [12:53] <xales> lunch time
#1239 [12:53] <xales> woof woof
#1240 [12:53] <stickypixel> Heh, I still have Arch wiki opened on my other desktop
#1241 [12:53] <TheNoodle> We just have a spool of cable
#1242 [12:54] <stickypixel> I have a 2 desktop setup.
#1243 [12:54] <stickypixel> Don't get me wrong, I would use two screens on one.
#1244 [12:54] <Lutzee> TheNoodle: Yeah, i think theres a spool of unmade cable around somewhere too
#1245 [12:54] <stickypixel> But parents don't want me using just one.
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#1247 [12:55] <Lutzee> Your parents are odd
#1248 [12:55] <stickypixel> Lutzee - Makes sense as to why I am also.
#1249 [12:55] <stickypixel> Yet again, I am adhesive.
#1250 [12:55] <stickypixel> High five?
#1251 [12:55] <stickypixel> No.
#1252 [12:55] <stickypixel> Ok. :(
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#1254 [12:56] <Selbram> hey Grim_Reaper you round?
#1255 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> I am. But not for long
#1256 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> Whats up?
#1257 [12:57] <Selbram> mind if I pm, it is about your forum
#1258 [12:57] <Calinou> stickypixel: parents = average computer users = listen_value = 0
#1259 [12:57] <Calinou> <xales> for games, yes dramatically
#1260 [12:57] <Calinou> just turn off compositing in your WM
#1261 [12:57] <Calinou> it's only useful if you play with 16× AA :P
#1262 [12:57] <stickypixel> Calinou - But yet my biological father was a computer geek like I am, so I caught onto that.
#1263 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> You can pm me sure
#1264 [12:57] <Calinou> computer geek, I get to laugh at him
#1265 [12:57] <stickypixel> Calinou - I'm the nerd of the house.
#1266 [12:57] <Calinou> ANY real person does not want wireless
#1267 [12:58] <Calinou> wireless means latency and loss of data
#1268 [12:58] <Calinou> this is a fact
#1269 [12:58] <stickypixel> Calinou - I have a really nice wireless connection.
#1270 [12:58] <Calinou> I laugh at logitech making _gaming_ _wireless_ keyboards and mouses, this is beyond stupid
#1271 [12:58] <stickypixel> Calinou - I gave up when they made the PC controllers.
#1272 [12:58] <Calinou> it's like using a CPU cache as RAM and say "it's fast, now adapt your program for 8MB of RAM"
#1273 [12:59] <stickypixel> Calinou - I have 19ms of ping | 24.88mbps Download | 4.24mbps Upload
#1274 [12:59] <stickypixel> I can't complain.
#1275 [12:59] <stickypixel> Grade: A
#1276 [12:59] <stickypixel> Faster than 94% of US.
#1277 [13:00] <stickypixel> That's with 2 computers and an iPod connected, IRC, many web pages, steam, and windows live messenger.
#1278 [13:00] <stickypixel> So.
#1279 [13:00] <stickypixel> :p
#1280 [13:01] <Lutzee> My ping is 9ms on cable, and i'm in a massive apartment block routing through probably a single main router
#1281 [13:01] <Lutzee> http://speedtest.net/result/2423003614.png
#1282 [13:01] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - I would like to mention that the free .me domain through Thunderbird is over, it was apparently only for 2012.
#1283 [13:02] <stickypixel> Lutzee - Not bad :p
#1284 [13:02] <Lutzee> Its really nice
#1285 [13:02] <Lutzee> I'll be getting similar next year, but split between 8 people
#1286 [13:02] <Lutzee> Luckily 6/8 wont use much bandwidth, as they dont do much more than facebook
#1287 [13:02] <stickypixel> Also, does anyone know if FarmVille eats up internet connection?
#1288 [13:03] <Lutzee> Knowing zynga probably
#1289 [13:03] <stickypixel> Damn.
#1290 [13:03] <TheNoodle> You use bandwidth to feed your crops
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#1292 [13:03] <stickypixel> Mom only uses her computer 24/7 to play FarmVille.
#1293 [13:03] <stickypixel> TheNoodle - well said.
#1294 [13:03] <Calinou> stickypixel: ohai optic fiber
#1295 [13:03] <Calinou> I have 60ms, 3.3mb down, 0.3mb up
#1296 [13:04] * Calinou at least lives in a housze
#1296 [13:04] <Calinou> -z
#1297 [13:04] <TheNoodle> One day Australia will catch up
#1298 [13:04] <Calinou> one day france will catch up too
#1299 [13:04] <stickypixel> I live in a nice trailer.
#1300 [13:04] <Calinou> in march I might have optic fiber
#1301 [13:04] <Calinou> stickypixel> Faster than 94% of US.
#1302 [13:04] * Calinou makes stickypixel listen to a MP3
#1302 [13:05] <stickypixel> File or player?
#1303 [13:05] <Lutzee> My friend has been without internet for 2 months, because BT were being idiots over his install date
#1304 [13:05] <Omen> anyone know of a mod that changes the sound of things like spiders and bats? There is a spider below my house and my ears just want to bleed
#1305 [13:05] <Lord_Ralex> why noy kill it?
#1306 [13:05] <TheNoodle> Just go kill it
#1307 [13:05] <TheNoodle> MAN MODE
#1308 [13:05] <stickypixel> inb4simplesolution
#1309 [13:05] <Omen> and wait for 3 more to just respawn afterwards
#1310 [13:05] <Lord_Ralex> place torches
#1311 [13:06] <Lutzee> Light it up
#1312 [13:06] <Lutzee> Or fill in the hole
#1313 [13:06] <Calinou> Omen: turn sound off :P
#1314 [13:06] <Lutzee> ^
#1315 [13:06] <Omen> short term solutions to long term problems
#1316 [13:06] <Calinou> or use audacity, replace sound with silence, set as read only so that game doesn't redownload the sound
#1317 [13:06] <stickypixel> Omen - Or if you are so petrified of ingame spiders, you can throw your computer at a wall.
#1318 [13:06] <Lord_Ralex> it shouldn't redownload them anyways
#1319 [13:06] <Lord_Ralex> since they exist
#1320 [13:07] <worldmc> !ping 216.246.108.70:25865
#1321 [13:07] <worldmc> !check 216.246.108.70:25865
#1322 [13:07] <stickypixel> That was random.
#1323 [13:07] <worldmc> but intended :)
#1324 [13:07] <Lykkepillen> Woooow Global GradeA+ (100%)
#1325 [13:08] <Lutzee> You can pm the bot you know :P
#1326 [13:08] <worldmc> i know that voxelhead can do it private
#1327 [13:08] <worldmc> but didnt know that aubot could aswell
#1328 [13:08] <Lutzee> Lykkepillen: I dont want to know what your connection is...
#1329 [13:09] <Lykkepillen> I was just trying to join yours :(
#1330 [13:09] <Calinou> I have like E- grade iirc
#1331 [13:09] <Lykkepillen> Fiber<3 http://speedtest.net/result/2459676498.png
#1332 [13:10] <stickypixel> Lykkepillen - I envy you.
#1333 [13:10] <TheNoodle> the uk is getting 300mbps soon :(
#1334 [13:10] <Lykkepillen> 300 mbps.. Sounds like Google fiber :O
#1335 [13:10] <Lykkepillen> Even tho I know It's not..
#1336 [13:11] <Lutzee> Looks like a business package to mee
#1337 [13:11] <Lutzee> me
#1338 [13:11] <Lutzee> Will probably cost a bomb
#1339 [13:11] <Lykkepillen> Idk
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#1341 [13:11] <Vishuns> Any minecraft supporter here ?
#1342 [13:11] <Lutzee> Yes
#1343 [13:11] <stickypixel> Vishuns - I sure hope so. :p
#1344 [13:12] <Vishuns> I have a problem i hope you can help me with
#1345 [13:12] <stickypixel> ??> Vishuns ask
#1346 [13:12] <VoxelHead> Vishuns: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1347 [13:12] <VoxelHead> Vishuns: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1348 [13:13] <Lykkepillen> In Denmark we pay about.. 178,72$ a month for 250/250
#1349 [13:13] <Vishuns> At some reason i spelled my gaming name wrong -_- So i wanted to hear if i can change it by any chance
#1350 [13:14] <stickypixel> Vishuns - Mollstam is possibly working on a system where you can change your username, but atm you can't.
#1351 [13:14] <Lutzee> Lykkepillen: being a student really doesn't help my cost situation
#1352 [13:14] <stickypixel> Vishuns - Unless you feel like buying Minecraft again for another username.
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#1354 [13:14] <Lykkepillen> Lutzee: Haha but what would you need it for unless you where hosting from your home?
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#1356 [13:15] <Vishuns> Nah i'll wait and see what you guys find out
#1357 [13:15] <Lutzee> Lykkepillen: Funily enough, hosting :P
#1358 [13:15] <Lykkepillen> Oh.. Well.. 178 it is :P
#1359 [13:15] <Lykkepillen> But i heard Norway had some great and cheap speeds too..
#1360 [13:15] <Lutzee> cydonia.co is currently hosted on my friends 20/2mbps internet :P
#1361 [13:15] <worldmc> thats a lot of money
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#1363 [13:16] <Vishuns> Well Thanks for the help guys,
#1364 [13:16] <Vishuns> You may have a wonderfull day (: Cya
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#1366 [13:17] <Lykkepillen> Norway... Starting in 2002 with 2Mbps, it upgraded to 4Mbps in 2004, to 6Mbps in 2005 and to 10Mbps in 2007. After testing 1Gbps in 2008, it launched a 400Mbps service in 2010
#1367 [13:17] <Lykkepillen> 1Gbps in 2008.. Damn..
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#1372 [13:26] <craftwerk> on the xb360 version, i have noticed after the latest update that excavating certain seemingly random blocks causes them to regenerate after a few seconds. is this a bug or feature?
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#1376 [13:30] <stickypixel> craftwerk - Most likely, bug.
#1377 [13:33] <craftwerk> aw
#1378 [13:33] <stickypixel> craftwerk - Doesn't mean you can't take advantage of it.
#1379 [13:33] <craftwerk> unfortunately i havent had anything awesome respawn so far just dirt
#1380 [13:33] <craftwerk> but if you see an all diamond house you know what happened
#1381 [13:34] <stickypixel> :p
#1382 [13:34] <stickypixel> :p
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#1384 [13:36] <stickypixel> Hulk Hogan: Once WWE/TNA wrestler, now Beach Shop owner. http://www.hogansbeachshop.com
#1385 [13:36] <stickypixel> This is seriously owned by him.
#1386 [13:36] <craftwerk> owning a beach shop is a cool retirement plan
#1387 [13:37] <stickypixel> Apparently.
#1388 [13:39] * stickypixel is away: AFK
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#1389 [13:40] <norbert40> Can I ask right here?
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#1391 [13:42] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, what is it?
#1392 [13:42] <alex__> I juste bought the game and he dont want open !?
#1393 [13:42] <norbert40> ok, I should asking for ask so, I recently bought a giftcode by credit card for my girlfriend, and in mail I don't see that giftcode, just transaction and order id, what I should do to get giftcode?
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#1395 [13:46] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, how long ago did you make the purchase
#1396 [13:46] * stickypixel is back (gone 00:07:37)
#1396 [13:47] <stickypixel> Random question: Anyone read Java for Dummies before?
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#1398 [13:48] <norbert40> yesterday evening (europe time), I got confirmation about successful paymet for that
#1399 [13:48] <Lutzee> norbert40: has your account been debited for the payment?
#1400 [13:49] <norbert40> yes
#1401 [13:49] <alex_> I just bought the game and he dont want open !?
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#1403 [13:49] <alex_> ????6
#1404 [13:49] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, fyi, away things are annoying ;)
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#1406 [13:50] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex: Excuse myself.
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#1409 [13:50] <Lutzee> stickypixel: alt+A is easier :P
#1410 [13:50] <stickypixel> Lutzee - Thanks for the tip.
#1411 [13:51] <foxhops> downloaded latest version of java now minecraft wont run in my browser
#1412 [13:51] <Lutzee> Diamond_09: PMing a bot isnt going to get yu help, ask here
#1413 [13:51] <norbert40> Could you help me guys? I need that code for her birthday on sunday..
#1414 [13:51] <Lord_Ralex> foxhops, are you trying to play the demo or the full game?
#1415 [13:51] <foxhops> full game
#1416 [13:51] <Lord_Ralex> foxhops, then download the launcher isntead
#1417 [13:51] <foxhops> alright cool
#1418 [13:51] <Lutzee> norbert40: um, log in to minecraft.net and select the profile tab, should be listed there
#1419 [13:52] <Diamond_09> someone can help me plz ??
#1420 [13:52] <Lord_Ralex> the browser version is hard to debug and there is no benefit to using it except for the demo
#1421 [13:52] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Diamond_09 ask
#1422 [13:52] <VoxelHead> Diamond_09: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1423 [13:52] <norbert40> ok
#1424 [13:52] <VoxelHead> Diamond_09: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1425 [13:52] <foxhops> thank ya thank ya =)
#1426 [13:53] <Diamond_09> I just bought the game and its write on the screen : Done loading but nothing happen ?
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#1428 [13:57] <norbert40> I still waiting for veryfication mail
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#1430 [14:00] <norbert40> Lutzee I buying a lot of stuff via internet, but here I realy lost, I can't log in in to minecraft.net, just account.mojang.com
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#1432 [14:02] <PandaMan> Hi guys. Is there a chat channel for modded Minecraft?
#1433 [14:03] <stickypixel> #risucraft?
#1434 [14:03] <PandaMan> Would that be suitable for me to get help with DireWolf20's modpack?
#1435 [14:04] <Selbram> have you googled direwolf20
#1436 [14:04] <stickypixel> PandaMan best idea would be to contact DireWolf20.
#1437 [14:04] <PandaMan> I didn't think he would be easy to contact. I have googled my problem and none of the solutions have worked.
#1438 [14:05] <stickypixel> Just attempt to contact him.
#1439 [14:05] <PandaMan> okay, I will. Thanks
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#1442 [14:05] <norbert40> I thing, for some rison I should create a minecraft account, but I don't want. I just need that giftcode, whih I choosen when made purchase
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#1446 [14:09] <Z_> Hi im haveing troble updateing
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#1448 [14:09] <Z_> It says Fatal error (2)
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#1450 [14:10] <Z_> Hello?
#1451 [14:10] <stickypixel> ??> Z_ win/hosts
#1452 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Z_: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1453 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Z_: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1454 [14:11] <Z_> okay one second
#1455 [14:12] <norbert40> Enybody can help? it's 290 ppl here..
#1456 [14:12] <norbert40> Enybody can help? it's 290 ppl here..
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#1458 [14:13] <Lord_Ralex> there is only 167 users connected (now 166)
#1459 [14:13] <stickypixel> ??> norbert40 attitude
#1460 [14:13] <VoxelHead> norbert40: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1461 [14:13] <Z_> so i hold down my windows button and press r tell if im doing this wrong i held it down and pressed r but all it did was put r in the search thing for the window
#1462 [14:13] <VoxelHead> norbert40: (attitude) We understand that if you're here, you're probably upset because something isn't working properly. Try to remember that we are volunteering our time to try to assist people such as yourself.
#1463 [14:13] <stickypixel> ??> norbert40 patience
#1464 [14:13] <VoxelHead> norbert40: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1465 [14:13] <VoxelHead> norbert40: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
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#1466 [14:14] <norbert40> Ok, I realy respect you guys, just ask that enybody can help me
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#1468 [14:14] <Lord_Ralex> Z_, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1469 [14:14] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, not many of us really can give you a good answer on that
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#1472 [14:15] <stickypixel> My bad.
#1473 [14:15] <Z_> Lord_Ralex do i click the link
#1474 [14:15] <Lord_Ralex> Z_, yes, that will explain how to get the report
#1475 [14:15] <norbert40> so, when i should go?
#1476 [14:16] <Z_> Thank you
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#1478 [14:16] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, give me a sec to read some articles, see if i can help a little
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#1480 [14:17] <norbert40> ok, I will be here, don't rush :)
#1481 [14:17] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, so your card was charged, correct?
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#1483 [14:18] <Z_> Im also haveing a problem where when i place a block it places some where else like 2 block away or 10 do know why?
#1484 [14:18] <Z_> Blocks*
#1485 [14:18] <norbert40> yes, I got mail from moneybookers and it's say that was charged
#1486 [14:20] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, you chose to send it to yourself (the gift code) correct?
#1487 [14:21] <Lord_Ralex> so the "E-mail me a gift code I can give to someone" was checked?
#1488 [14:21] <norbert40> yes, exactly
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#1495 [14:22] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, it is not in the spam folder, correct?
#1496 [14:22] <norbert40> and it's apperas that other option was checked, but I sure it''s right
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#1501 [14:22] <norbert40> correct, i checked spam folder milion times
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#1503 [14:23] <Lord_Ralex> let me check my emails, i have bought a gift code before, let me check to see how long they took for that
#1504 [14:23] <norbert40> I just got mail from <noreply@mojang.com> with transaction id, order id and link to register account
#1505 [14:24] <norbert40> okz
#1506 [14:24] <Selbram> the code will be somewhere on your account page
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#1510 [14:26] <norbert40> but on account page they want me to register to game, but i just need that giftcode
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#1513 [14:26] <Lord_Ralex> hmm, i think i sent it to their email when i did it
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#1516 [14:27] <norbert40> did what?
#1517 [14:27] <Lord_Ralex> when i did a gift of the gmae
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#1520 [14:28] <Tabatha> It looks like I am having an issue with jave
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#1523 [14:28] <Tabatha> fatal error occured (5)
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#1525 [14:28] <norbert40> I not sure that I understood, but my girlfriend already have minecraft account
#1526 [14:29] <Tabatha> a device attached to the system is not working
#1527 [14:29] <Lord_Ralex> i don't think i can be of much help now, i cannot recall how that worked
#1528 [14:29] <nitro44> from where can i get infos about the /publish-funktion in SSP. How it works etc.?
#1529 [14:29] <Zexy_Me> Hi im haveing troble with fatal error (2) can you help me?
#1530 [14:29] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, has she migrated the account?
#1531 [14:30] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, i would say give it 24 hours after getting the charge to process, although not much else i can suggest
#1532 [14:30] <norbert40> She have cracked version and I wanna give her giftcode, personally I don't play minecraft
#1533 [14:31] <norbert40> ok Lord
#1534 [14:31] <Lord_Ralex> Zexy_Me, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1535 [14:32] <nitro44> can i use mods when i want to play a MinecraftMap via /publish function with friends?
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#1537 [14:33] <norbert40> Lord_Ralex where I can type for help? I can't find on mojang.com
#1538 [14:33] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, http://help.mojang.com has their articles
#1539 [14:34] <Lord_Ralex> norbert40, the one that was closest i could find was: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-game-
#1540 [14:34] <norbert40> I read that
#1541 [14:34] <Lord_Ralex> but it does not really help much i think
#1542 [14:35] <Lord_Ralex> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329762-i-paid-for-a-gift-code-but-haven%E2%80%99t-received-it
#1543 [14:35] <norbert40> o
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#1547 [14:36] <norbert40> i got idea
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#1549 [14:37] <norbert40> i will call to my bank
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#1552 [14:44] <norbert40> banks says that everythink is fine, I need direct contact to mojang dudes
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#1557 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> norbert40: call again and get a transaction confirmation code; then you can bring that confirmation to Mojang
#1558 [14:54] <norbert40> thanks, i have that code from moneybookers and I was send mail directly to Mojang
#1559 [14:55] <norbert40> I have to go, thank you for talk guys, bye
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#1561 [14:56] <kris> hello
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#1570 [15:04] <Bremen88> ok so i have had minecraft for about 2-3 years now and i have never had this problem before... the problem is im trying to play on one of my old worlds and when i load it up it stays/gets stuck and doesnt load what can i do?
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#1572 [15:05] <mattym> Bremen88: How old?
#1573 [15:06] <mattym> If it was before the switch to the new level format, then you may need to wait a while for it to convert
#1574 [15:06] <Bremen88> about 1.5 - 2 years
#1575 [15:06] <mattym> yeah try it again and give it a while
#1576 [15:06] <Bremen88> how long is a while? :)
#1577 [15:06] <mattym> also make sure your on the official 1.4.7, not one of the pre_releases or a modded client
#1578 [15:07] <mattym> no clue, id say it depends on how big the world was
#1579 [15:07] <Bremen88> ok i am
#1580 [15:07] <Bremen88> and will try
#1581 [15:07] <mattym> cool
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#1583 [15:08] <Bremen88> thank you. if it doesnt work il come back hear thanks again mattym
#1584 [15:08] <Bremen88> :D
#1585 [15:09] <mattym> np
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#1592 [15:34] <Bremen88> ok im back. it hasnt gone of the loading world converting world and i dont think it will... :( what do i do now?
#1593 [15:34] <Bremen88> ok im back. it hasnt gone of the loading world converting world and i dont think it will... :( what do i do now?
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#1596 [15:37] <Bremen88> ?
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#1598 [15:38] <jman> HOw do I get my screen back - I hit full screen, and screen went black
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#1600 [15:39] <mattym> Bremen88: It it possible the world was corrupted?
#1601 [15:40] <Lutzee> ??> jman deloptions
#1602 [15:40] <VoxelHead> jman: (deloptions) You may need to reset your Minecraft settings to default. To do so, open your .minecraft directory and delete the files called 'options.txt'.
#1603 [15:40] <Lutzee> ??> jman win/.minecraft
#1604 [15:40] <VoxelHead> jman: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1605 [15:40] <dawgpound55> hey i just bought minecraft and i cant play it and idk how to fix the video car driver
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#1607 [15:40] <Lutzee> ??> dawgpound55 win/dxdiag
#1608 [15:40] <VoxelHead> dawgpound55: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1609 [15:40] <VoxelHead> dawgpound55: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1610 [15:42] <Bremen88> <mattym> is there any way of fixing that?
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#1613 [15:42] <CazDavies> Hello
#1614 [15:43] <dawgpound55> what the hell is a win button?
#1615 [15:43] <CazDavies> Can anyone give e the link to download jav used fo inecraft in browser?
#1616 [15:43] <CazDavies> anyone?
#1617 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> dawgpound55 - Look at your keyboard. What is the button between the ctrl and alt keys?
#1618 [15:43] <Lutzee> ?? win/key
#1619 [15:43] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
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#1621 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> CazDavies - Check java.com
#1622 [15:43] <CazDavies> Thanks
#1623 [15:44] <CazDavies> Oh ps im a girl
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#1625 [15:44] <jman> my screen when black when I hit full screen...can't get it back??
#1626 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> jman - What operating system are you on?
#1627 [15:45] <jman> vista
#1628 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> jman - Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %appdata%/.minecraft
#1629 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> jman - Find the options file. Delete it. Run minecraft again and log in
#1630 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: there's a FAQ for that.
#1631 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Was already given
#1632 [15:46] <jman> Sorry if you answered earlier...my little sister turned the computer off
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#1634 [15:47] <jman> I will try it now..thanks
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#1636 [15:47] <dawgpound55> still nothing
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#1638 [15:48] <Bremen88> is there any way of uncrrupting it?
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#1641 [15:49] <Morrolan> Bremen88 - MCEdit has a "Fix regions" feature, that one is worth a shot.
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#1643 [15:50] <CensedPie> Hello, My minecraft keeps crashing and it gives me and error. It states, OpenGL Error Code 7. My graphics card is a Nvidia 440GT and my graphics driver is up to date. More specificly minecraft crashes when I am in game and I open the tab that has armors and try to take leather armor.
#1644 [15:50] <Bremen88> i have MCedit how do i do it?
#1645 [15:50] <KiriJolith> my girlfriend as tried buying minecraft twice now and she has never recieved her e-mail or link to create her username? what is she doing wrong? She has already created a Mojang account so we know that isnt the issue
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#1647 [15:51] <Morrolan> Bremen88 - Open the world -> Ctrl-I to open the world information menu -> Fix regions -> Save the world
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#1649 [15:52] <Morrolan> KiriJolith - One of the most common causes is the credit card provider blocking the payment, since it's an international one.
#1650 [15:52] <Morrolan> Now, good night. Stick around, if need be, and someone will help you further.
#1651 [15:52] <KiriJolith> she has been given a payment reciept though saying the payment went through
#1652 [15:52] <Bremen88> ok thanks il try it
#1653 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> KiriJolith - One containing a transaction ID, and not an order ID?
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#1656 [15:54] <KiriJolith> i think it was a transaction ID
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#1658 [15:55] <Bremen88> nothing happens when i click ctrl-i
#1659 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Bremen88 - Inside MCedit
#1660 [15:55] <Bremen88> ?
#1661 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> KiriJolith - Please have them make sure that the transaction was successful on the bank's end. If you do have a transaction ID, please contact Mojang support for further support.
#1662 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> KiriJolith - You can contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1663 [15:55] <Bremen88> Inside?
#1664 [15:56] <KiriJolith> thank you
#1665 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Bremen88 - Do you have MCedit running?
#1666 [15:56] <Bremen88> yes
#1667 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Bremen88 - Do you have the corrupted world loaded in MCedit?
#1668 [15:57] <Bremen88> no shel i do it?
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#1670 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#1671 [15:57] <Bremen88> ok
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#1673 [15:58] <Bremen88> it says level is empty when i open it?
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#1676 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Then that world's either empty, or has no information associated with it.
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#1678 [16:00] <Bremen88> :( grate. is there any way i can get this world?
#1679 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> If even MCedit can't load it, I doubt it can be recovered
#1680 [16:00] <Bremen88> ok
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#1683 [16:02] <tashie> hi ummmmm i am struggleing to get texture packs or x-ray mods on my minecraft verywhere is telling me to download all sorts of things would really appreciate help thanks xxx
#1684 [16:02] <Bremen88> do u have save worlds within mojang ? if u do can u surch my map? "Forge world made by Bremen (exsept homorage)"
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#1686 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Worlds are saved locally on the computer it was created on
#1687 [16:03] <tashie> im not sure what you guys mean
#1688 [16:03] <Bremen88> So i haf to make Forge world from scrach?
#1689 [16:03] <tashie> im new to minecraft before you think im totally stupid
#1690 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Bremen88 - Yes
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#1693 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> tashie - We don't really assist with mods here.
#1694 [16:05] <tashie> oh okay how about texture packs?
#1695 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#1696 [16:05] <tashie> i dont know how you get them
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#1698 [16:06] <Bremen88> ow... :( ... ok il do it but before i do is there a way of fixing lag.... mine gets rly bad lag (fps1-fps8)
#1699 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Google is a great way of finding things. The Minecraft forums has a dedicated subforum for texture packs at: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/41-texture-packs/
#1700 [16:06] <tashie> tahnks alot!!!!
#1701 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft wiki has an article for texture packs as well: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Packs
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#1703 [16:08] <Bremen88> any one?
#1704 [16:08] <Arneth> My. copy ofminecraft cannot contact any servers
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#1707 [16:09] <Arneth> Every time i try, i get the cannot connect error on the mp screen and direx
#1708 [16:10] <Arneth> Direct connect gives me the id 72 error
#1709 [16:10] <Arneth> Any ideas on what ican do
#1710 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> On all servers Arneth?
#1711 [16:11] <Arneth> Yes
#1712 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Then you've got some sort of modded content that's preventing minecraft from communicating with the server properly.
#1713 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Or all the servers that you're connecting to, are running some sort of modded content that also requires client-side modded files
#1714 [16:11] <Arneth> none at all everything is the vanilla edition i downloaded
#1715 [16:12] <Arneth> And everything is updated
#1716 [16:12] <Bremen88> huuu.... Any one no how to get ridof lag (fps1-fps8)
#1717 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Bremen88 - Use Optifine, or get a better computer
#1718 [16:13] <Bremen88> i had optifine but 4 me it didnt do much :/ any other way?
#1719 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1721 [16:14] <Bremen88> dam.. :(
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#1723 [16:14] <Bremen88> oh well
#1724 [16:16] <Arneth> hmm no just contacted server owner no mods
#1725 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Arneth - Press a force update through your minecraft launcher's options menu. Then try connecting to that server
#1726 [16:17] <Bremen88> wish me luck on my FORGE WORLD map if any one wants to play i will hopefully have dun and put it in youtube in about 2 weeks (my youtube channal is MrMrBremen) :D
#1727 [16:18] <Arneth> Tried that. No joy. Even updated java
#1728 [16:18] <oldtopman> !k Bremen88
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#1730 [16:18] <oldtopman> derp
#1731 [16:18] * oldtopman forgot the reason
#1731 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Arneth - Then the last thing I can suggest is to have the server owner delete your playername.dat player profile from their server's world/players/ folder. This will delete your player data, including your position and any inventory.
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#1733 [16:19] <chase_> hello
#1734 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#1735 [16:20] <chase_> i am having a problem
#1736 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> We may have solutions to your problems here.
#1737 [16:23] <chase_> when i click on minecraft on my home screen an error pops up and it says java viurtal machine can not be created
#1738 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall java.
#1739 [16:23] <chase_> oneminute
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#1750 [16:36] <larae> when I try to download Minecraft after purchasing it, why does it say "this may harm your computer"?
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#1755 [16:40] <lego12231> i need help
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#1757 [16:40] <benhunter09|phone> Ask away
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#1759 [16:41] <lego12231> i bought minecraft on miecraft.net i waited an hour to so my account could update to premium
#1760 [16:41] <lego12231> i log in an hour or 2 then it says user not premium
#1761 [16:41] <benhunter09> What is your minecraft username?
#1762 [16:41] <lego12231> lego12231
#1763 [16:42] <benhunter09> !paid lego12231
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#1765 [16:42] <mattym> when you login to the client you need to log in with your email not the username
#1766 [16:42] <lego12231> i know
#1767 [16:42] <benhunter09> !paid lego12231
#1768 [16:42] <clarjon1> larae: Are you on a mac?
#1769 [16:42] <lego12231> i did pay
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#1771 [16:43] <benhunter09> Did you get a confirmation email from mojang
#1772 [16:43] <lego12231> no
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#1774 [16:43] <clarjon1> lego12231: The transaction appears to have not gone through yet. If you used a creditcard, the transaction mayhave been stopped by your provider as it's an international purchase.
#1775 [16:43] <clarjon1> lego12231: Try calling up your credit card provider, and tell them to authorize the transaction :)
#1776 [16:44] <lego12231> ok
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#1778 [16:44] <lego12231> ill give it a try
#1779 [16:44] <lego12231> thanks
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#1783 [16:44] <Taylor> After Log in the screen goes black.
#1784 [16:45] <mattym> Mods?
#1785 [16:45] <Taylor> No
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#1787 [16:45] <benhunter09> Taylor, have you tried a force update
#1788 [16:45] <Taylor> Yes
#1789 [16:45] <mattym> which brand is your graphics card?
#1790 [16:46] <Taylor> mac
#1791 [16:46] <Taylor> i am on amc
#1792 [16:46] <Lord_Ralex> Taylor, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1793 [16:46] <Taylor> mac
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#1795 [16:47] <mattym> he may not actually be getting a crash report if its just black screening, but you should still check it Taylor
#1796 [16:47] <Lord_Ralex> still a crash
#1797 [16:48] <larae> clarjon1: we are on a pc
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#1799 [16:48] <clarjon1> larae: Ah. Windows tends to give out Scary Warnings for programs that you download.
#1800 [16:49] <Taylor> i did
#1801 [16:49] <clarjon1> larae: It'll do that for any game .exe file you download from the internet.
#1802 [16:49] <mattym> its giving the warning via java, you can ignore that larae
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#1804 [16:49] <clarjon1> mattym: No, he's asking about the "This program may harm your computer" type message that windows give for every .exe you've downloaded and tried to run
#1805 [16:50] <Lord_Ralex> windows trying to be protective
#1806 [16:50] <clarjon1> Mhm.
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#1808 [16:50] <benhunter09> Taylor, do you have a crash report?
#1809 [16:50] <larae> clarjon1 and mattym: are you sure? my dad will kill me if the computer crashes
#1810 [16:50] <Taylor> no
#1811 [16:50] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Taylor pastebin
#1812 [16:50] <VoxelHead> Taylor: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1813 [16:50] <Lord_Ralex> Taylor, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1814 [16:51] <benhunter09> Then put it on pastebin
#1815 [16:51] <Taylor> ok
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#1817 [16:52] <clarjon1> larae: Yeah. The only way that things would crash is if there's a problem with the graphics card, really. Which, a simple reboot would fix right up! :)
#1818 [16:52] * Grim_Reaper hugs Marc_IRL
#1818 [16:52] <clarjon1> larae: Plus, Minecraft tends to not crash the entire computer -- if the game crashes, it'll give a crash report.
#1819 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> Heyo
#1820 [16:52] <benhunter09> Hi marc
#1821 [16:52] <TheNoodle> Awwman, I never get hugs when I join
#1822 [16:52] <larae> clarjon1: ok thanks!
#1823 [16:52] <ShaRose> TheNoodle you aren't cool enough
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#1825 [16:53] * benhunter09 hugs TheNoodle
#1825 [16:53] <clarjon1> larae: I've gotten that warning message from tools I downloaded from Microsoft's own website before! :)
#1826 [16:53] * Grim_Reaper hugs TheNoodle
#1826 [16:53] * Marc_IRL hugs TheNoodle
#1826 [16:53] <mattym> larae: That warning is mostly just a "legal" thing, they have to warn you so that you cant blame them for any problem
#1827 [16:53] <TheNoodle> <3
#1828 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> <3
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#1840 [17:01] <Pleasehelpme> i want to try the demo but it wont allow me to play it how can i play the demo?
#1841 [17:01] <benhunter09> ?? demo
#1842 [17:01] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#1843 [17:01] <benhunter09> are you going there ^
#1844 [17:03] <Pleasehelpme> but everytime i try to play it an erro popsout and says error clkc for details, then is says class not found exceptions .....
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#1849 [17:04] <Pleasehelpme> what do i have to do to play the demo? it just keeps saming same erro .. class not found .. how do i fix it ?
#1850 [17:05] <benhunter09> Do you have java
#1851 [17:06] <Pleasehelpme> yeah the newest version
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#1856 [17:07] <Pleasehelpme> can anyone help me?
#1857 [17:07] <Pleasehelpme> can anyone help me?
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#1861 [17:08] <benhunter09> Im not sure but wait here because there will be someone who knows
#1862 [17:08] <benhunter09> Oh, he left
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#1871 [17:13] <larae> can someone help me? when i go on to minecraft and start playing its very choppy and i dont understand. Ive been stuck in this hole and it wont let me move or do anything.
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#1880 [17:16] <ginge> I got a new computer, have tried to login here and it says I can only play demo
#1881 [17:17] <larae> in other words, how do you move in minecraft? is it the arrow keys or is it the mouse, or what?
#1882 [17:17] <oldtopman> larae: wasd for movement. You might try breaking the block directly below you.
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#1884 [17:18] <mattym> yeah larae sometimes lately the world doesnt quite spawn you correctly
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#1887 [17:18] <Disori> ginge, http://minecraft.net/download download from there and login with the account. You _have_ to have purchased the game already to play
#1888 [17:19] <larae> thank you oldtopman and mattym'
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#1890 [17:19] <oldtopman> You're welcome anytime.
#1891 [17:19] <mattym> they really need to fix that
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#1894 [17:20] <larae> sorry i probably sound really stupid, but how do you place blocks? oldtopman
#1895 [17:20] <oldtopman> larae: Right click.
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#1897 [17:20] <larae> ok. it all makes sense now. thanks again!
#1898 [17:20] <mattym> readh through all the controls
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#1900 [17:21] <mattym> they are for the most part exact descripitions of what they do, and should all have a key associated with them
#1901 [17:23] <larae> more questions. Its still really choppy, would you know why? and at the bottom where you have your materials to build, how can i change froom one to another?
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#1903 [17:24] <mattym> simple
#1904 [17:24] <larae> no go to "e" for your inventory, but switch from one to the next.
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#1906 [17:24] <mattym_> crap
#1907 [17:24] <mattym_> crashed
#1908 [17:25] <mattym_> anyway, each of the 9 spots corresponds to a number key
#1909 [17:25] <mattym_> so you can pres 1-9 to select the different things
#1910 [17:25] <mattym_> or if you mouse has a scroll wheel you can use that
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#1913 [17:25] <ed> minecraft won't download to my computer even when firewall turned off
#1914 [17:25] <mib_y1uzqy> jeu
#1915 [17:25] <mib_y1uzqy> hey
#1916 [17:26] <mib_y1uzqy> can someone help me with a building issue
#1917 [17:26] <larae> oh ok thanks mattym_ ill probably have more questions in a few seconds so if you could stay on and be ready that would be great.... :)
#1918 [17:26] <mattym_> i should be on
#1919 [17:26] <mib_y1uzqy> How can i wither proof my base so no one can use one to raid me
#1920 [17:26] <mattym_> mib_y1uzqy: Build with only 2 spaces high
#1921 [17:27] <mattym_> whither needs 3 or possible more to spawn
#1922 [17:27] <mib_y1uzqy> no no
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#1925 [17:27] <ed> why wont minecraft download even when i turn off my firewall?
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#1927 [17:27] <mib_y1uzqy> how can i wither proof my base so no one can use one to raid me? does water block their destruction?
#1928 [17:28] <mattym_> no clue
#1929 [17:28] <mattym_> havent really messed with them yet
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#1932 [17:28] <benhunter09> ed: are you on windows, mac or Linux
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#1935 [17:29] <ed> windows. says the download source is suspiscious so I turned off firewall to try again but same result
#1936 [17:29] <mattym> internet explorer?
#1937 [17:29] <ed> internet exporer
#1938 [17:30] <benhunter09> ??> ed win/ie
#1939 [17:30] <VoxelHead> ed: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#1940 [17:30] <VoxelHead> ed: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#1941 [17:31] <benhunter09> Try downloading using a different browser ^
#1942 [17:31] <ed> yup win/ie
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#1944 [17:31] <mattym> yeah do what he said, try using Chrome, it will probably be the quickest solution
#1945 [17:32] <ed> hmm ok
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#1948 [17:34] <Ryan_> My minecraft crashes and displays a message saying exception in server tick loop
#1949 [17:34] <cttimtte100> how do i add more rem to minecraft
#1950 [17:34] <mattym> are u using mods Ryan_
#1951 [17:35] <mattym> cttimtte100: Do you mean RAM?
#1952 [17:35] <cttimtte100> yes sorry
#1953 [17:35] <Ryan_> I was trying to add one and it caused this so I deleted it and it still happens
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#1955 [17:36] <mattym> Ryan_: when you lauch, click the options button and make it do a forced update
#1956 [17:36] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Ryan_ forceupdate
#1957 [17:36] <VoxelHead> Ryan_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1958 [17:36] <benhunter09> Ryan_: try a force update
#1959 [17:36] <VoxelHead> Ryan_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
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#1961 [17:36] <mattym> cttimtte100: First off, do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#1962 [17:36] <Ryan_> I've tried that. Still doesn't work
#1963 [17:37] <cttimtte100> yes it has 6 gb memory
#1964 [17:38] <mattym> ok
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#1966 [17:38] <joeydev> hello :D
#1967 [17:38] <mattym> is there a quick help article on giving MC more RAM?
#1968 [17:38] <joeydev> more RAM for your Minecraft server or Client?
#1969 [17:39] <mattym> he needs client
#1970 [17:39] <benhunter09> ??< xbox/splitscreen
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#1973 [17:40] <joeydev> oh k
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#1975 [17:40] <mattym> one minute cttimtte100 im looking up the best way to do it
#1976 [17:40] <nickxz14900> Is there a way to capture a save that has been changed by a mod?
#1977 [17:41] <cttimtte100> okay
#1978 [17:41] <Ryan_> I've tried force updating re downloading the game deleting my cache
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#1981 [17:41] <mattym> Ryan_: is it crashin when it starts or just on one map/world
#1982 [17:42] <joeydev> what kind of mod nick
#1983 [17:42] <mattym> cttimtte100: check out this video http://www.minecraftforum.net/videos/view-7059-how-to-give-java-more-ram-make-minecraft-faster/
#1984 [17:42] <nickxz14900> no its not crashing tried the tale of kingdom mod overwrite it with a previous map save and now am trying to get previous save prior to tale of kingdom save - tried removing mod and updated and reloaded also
#1985 [17:42] <Ryan_> When it starts. Right as I click on a map and try to enter it
#1986 [17:43] <mattym> Ryan_: That means the map is corrupt or has info from the mod in it, you and nickxz14900 are in the same boat
#1987 [17:43] <cttimtte100> okay thanks
#1988 [17:43] <mattym> cttimtte100:
#1989 [17:43] <mattym> cttimtte100: dont give it more than 3GB
#1990 [17:43] <nickxz14900> thank you
#1991 [17:44] <cttimtte100> alright
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#1993 [17:44] <mattym> nickxz14900 and Ryan_ : you will need a 3rd party tool like MCEdit to try and change the map
#1994 [17:44] <mattym> afk for dinner
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#1996 [17:45] <nickxz14900> bye and thank you
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#1998 [17:45] <joeydev> who needed more ram for their mc client
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#2001 [17:46] <benhunter09> joeydev it was cttimtte100
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#2004 [17:49] <Kitten_> All of you
#2005 [17:49] <Kitten_> I love you
#2006 [17:49] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#2007 [17:50] <benhunter09> :)
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#2014 [17:52] <ryan1> every time i attempt to play minecraft my game crashes and says exception in server tick loop
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#2019 [18:00] <Aluimnum> how do i get aluminiun ingots?
#2020 [18:01] <cestislife> There are no aluminium ingots in vanilla minecraft.
#2021 [18:01] <Aluimnum> no mindcrack
#2022 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#2023 [18:01] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2024 [18:01] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2025 [18:01] <Aluimnum> ok why then is this chanel on FTB
#2026 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> ask the FTB developers, we have no control over what they do.
#2027 [18:02] <Aluimnum> lol
#2028 [18:02] <Aluimnum> this is stupid
#2029 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> So is taking your car to the dealer after you've removed the governor, replaced the engine, raised the suspension, and retooled the transmission
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#2031 [18:05] <Aluimnum> lol dopeghoti really
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#2037 [18:09] <Guest_> Hey could i have some help my freinds is getting this error
#2038 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest_ error
#2039 [18:09] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2040 [18:09] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2041 [18:09] <Guest_> Ohh its more then two wait theew
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#2043 [18:10] <Guest_> http://pastebin.com/mZcihMcZ
#2044 [18:10] <Guest_> go there and raid
#2045 [18:10] <Guest_> Its not mine its my mates
#2046 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> Guest_, can you get your friend here?
#2047 [18:11] <Guest_> Ok let me send him
#2048 [18:12] <Guest_> Anyone on windows 8
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#2051 [18:12] <Guest_> Just asking a question does photoshop work on windows 8 if anybodys got it
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#2053 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> Guest_, it should
#2054 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> Guest_, but if you're a professional you shouldn't upgrade to Windows 8 just yet because drivers, but then Photoshop should be ok
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#2058 [18:14] <DylanDylanDylan> Now what
#2059 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> DylanDylanDylan, I suppose you are Guest_'s friend?
#2060 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> I meant Mattttty
#2061 [18:15] <cestislife> lol
#2062 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, y u no get a real irc client
#2063 [18:15] <Marc_IRL> Because I don't use IRC often and just have it bookmarked.
#2064 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL, but you are using IRC more and more often
#2065 [18:16] <Marc_IRL> Webchat does exactly what I want it to do
#2066 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> oh well
#2067 [18:17] <DylanDylanDylan> Okay i got a Question.
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#2069 [18:18] <mattym|dinner> webchat is especially helpful if you are often on networks that block ports that some IRC clients use
#2070 [18:18] * mattym|dinner is now known as mattym
#2071 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> mattym, you're looking for mibbit
#2072 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> webchat afaik is not a proxy
#2073 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> DylanDylanDylan, I've seen your crash report
#2074 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> DylanDylanDylan win/dxdiag/bat
#2075 [18:19] <VoxelHead> DylanDylanDylan: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#2076 [18:19] <VoxelHead> DylanDylanDylan: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#2077 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> DylanDylanDylan, please follow the steps outlined by VoxelHead
#2078 [18:19] <mattym> yes but its still working through the browser
#2079 [18:19] <mattym> and i have control over the browser
#2080 [18:20] <tyteen4a03> mattym, but it still uses IRC ports to communicate
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#2083 [18:21] <miller11> i downloaded bosscraft and now cannot log on minecraft what do I do to fix
#2084 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> ??> miller11 forceupdate
#2085 [18:21] <VoxelHead> miller11: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2086 [18:21] <VoxelHead> miller11: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#2087 [18:21] <mattym> it works, how exactly it gets past the normally blocked means doesnt really matter, all i know is, it works
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#2090 [18:26] <miller11> trying to get to screen that allows you to force update, how do i get there
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#2092 [18:27] <mattym> if you can still see the line above click the link for a picture
#2093 [18:28] <JessEvans> I'm missing the final step to installing tekkit server. I upload the server files with the upload and unpack archive option, follow the instructions to rename the file to craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar but when I start the server it still starts with vanilla server.
#2094 [18:28] <Lord_Ralex> ??> JessEvans mod
#2095 [18:28] <Lord_Ralex> ??> JessEvans mods
#2096 [18:28] <VoxelHead> JessEvans: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2097 [18:28] <VoxelHead> JessEvans: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2098 [18:28] <JessEvans> ok
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#2109 [18:36] <becks_3992> so im playing on minecraft and when im done do i just exit out or is there a way that i can just log off?
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#2111 [18:36] <cestislife> Yes, you can just close the application.
#2112 [18:37] <becks_3992> so nothing special?
#2113 [18:37] <cestislife> Nope.
#2114 [18:37] <cestislife> You can exit to menu and quit there, if you want.
#2115 [18:37] <mattym> "Log off" isnt really possible
#2116 [18:37] <mattym> the only way to do that is Quit or Close
#2117 [18:37] <becks_3992> how do i get there?
#2118 [18:38] <becks_3992> oh nevermind
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#2120 [18:38] <becks_3992> so just the red x?
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#2122 [18:38] <cestislife> becks_3992, yes.
#2123 [18:38] <mattym> no, you can hit exit,escape
#2124 [18:38] <becks_3992> ?
#2125 [18:38] <mattym> then select exit to menu
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#2127 [18:39] <mattym> from there you can close out
#2128 [18:39] <becks_3992> is there a wy that i can fix my screen though because its all choppy when i play.
#2129 [18:39] <mattym> how do you mean?
#2130 [18:39] <cestislife> Choppy as in low fps?
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#2132 [18:40] <becks_3992> no like.... idk hard to explain
#2133 [18:40] <mattym> are you new to the game?
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#2135 [18:40] <becks_3992> ive played pocket eddition before so im very familier but today is my first day on the computer.
#2136 [18:40] <mattym> ok
#2137 [18:41] <mattym> so you mean that your screen is jumpy and im guessing you cant move around?
#2138 [18:41] <dargrave493> everytime i join a server, it always lags me out and it says " internal exception: java.net.socket.timeoutexception:"
#2139 [18:41] <becks_3992> ya i can move but not very easily.
#2140 [18:41] <mattym> becks_3992: Try break the block beneath you
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#2142 [18:41] <mattym> sometimes a big makes you spawn "inside" the block
#2143 [18:42] <tyteen4a03> dargrave493, server IP please?
#2144 [18:42] <mattym> bug*
#2145 [18:42] <dargrave493> mc.pandemiccraft.com
#2146 [18:43] <becks_3992> no i can see perfectly what i mean is that WHEN im playing and when im moving around. like when i get out
#2147 [18:43] <becks_3992> i can move it just goes here, then here, and here and its weird. mattym
#2148 [18:44] <mattym> ok becks_3992 go into options and then video settings, set the render distance to normal
#2149 [18:44] <mattym> or anything but Far
#2150 [18:44] <becks_3992> how do i do that?
#2151 [18:45] <mattym> hit escape, find options, and then video settings
#2152 [18:45] <becks_3992> options as in the key on the keyboard?
#2153 [18:45] <dargrave493> hello?
#2154 [18:45] <becks_3992> oh ok
#2155 [18:45] <becks_3992> i get it
#2156 [18:45] <Dylan134> I need help, Everytime i get on minecraft and Play in a server or Solo Few min later it will Exit no Warning then Leaves a little notepad on my screen.
#2157 [18:45] <becks_3992> stay here ill come back if it doesnt work.
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#2159 [18:45] <mattym> dargrave493: Is it just that server or any one?
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#2161 [18:46] <dargrave493> any one
#2162 [18:46] <mattym> Dylan134: Copy the contents of that notepad to a pastebing
#2163 [18:46] <cestislife> !check mc.pandemiccraft.com
#2164 [18:46] <mattym> ??> Dylan134 !pastebin
#2165 [18:46] <Dylan134> http://pastebin.com/pzwdCHXR
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#2169 [18:48] <dargrave493> hello?
#2170 [18:48] <becks_3992> alright it worked! thx mattym!
#2171 [18:48] <Dylan134> <_< Thats the best help i herd all day c: So Ill go fix it Myself cause this computer isnt that old
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#2173 [18:48] <dargrave493> mattym?
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#2175 [18:49] <becks_3992> do you need help dargrave493
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#2178 [18:49] <mattym> dargrave493: someone just did a check on that server you posted and it seems to be down
#2179 [18:50] <dargrave493> what do you mean? i know other people that go on there and its fine for them
#2180 [18:50] <Marc_IRL> I'm on it right now :p
#2181 [18:50] <Marc_IRL> They have a nice spawn area
#2182 [18:50] <astrid46> how come my minecraft says '' faild to lanch ''
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#2184 [18:50] <mattym> any chance they banned you dargrave493 ?
#2185 [18:50] <dargrave493> no they didnt ban me
#2186 [18:50] <cestislife> It has nothing to do with that.
#2187 [18:51] <astrid46> it says i need help
#2188 [18:51] <astrid46> hello
#2189 [18:52] <becks_3992> hey can someone help me?
#2190 [18:52] <astrid46> me to
#2191 [18:52] <mattym> another problem becks_3992
#2192 [18:52] <becks_3992> ya... sorry.
#2193 [18:52] <astrid46> PLZ HELP
#2194 [18:52] <becks_3992> i started flying on creative mode and i cant get down.
#2195 [18:52] <mattym> astrid46: You will need to provide more info, no one has any idea why it said that
#2196 [18:52] <mattym> shift
#2197 [18:52] <cestislife> becks_3992, hold shift.
#2198 [18:52] <cestislife> ?? patience
#2199 [18:53] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2200 [18:53] <becks_3992> ok thank you.
#2201 [18:53] <mattym> or double click space again to drop you
#2202 [18:53] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#2203 [18:53] <dargrave493> mattym?
#2204 [18:53] <mattym> yes dargrave493
#2205 [18:53] <becks_3992> ive already triend double clicking the space bar and i only brought me higher..... mattym
#2206 [18:53] <cestislife> dargrave493, try connecting again.
#2207 [18:53] <cestislife> becks_3992, Shift, not Space.
#2208 [18:54] <mattym> double clicking space again is supposed to take you out of fly mode
#2209 [18:54] <becks_3992> ok thx cestislife
#2210 [18:54] <dargrave493> cestislife, i hav done that a million time but it just lags me out after about 20 seconds
#2211 [18:54] <cestislife> It seems to be that you have a slow connection.
#2212 [18:54] <astrid46> i ment to say it says ''faild to launch fatal error occured (2) null
#2213 [18:54] <dargrave493> how do i fix that?
#2214 [18:55] <mattym> astrid46: Did you add any mods?
#2215 [18:55] <mattym> dargrave493: are you running anything else right now that uses the internet? or is someone else in your house?
#2216 [18:55] <mattym> dargrave493: are you running anything else right now that uses the internet? or is someone else in your house?
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#2218 [18:55] <becks_3992> if its a fatal error astrid46 it probably means something really bad happened obviously. how many times has it said that?
#2219 [18:55] <Lord_Ralex> astrid46, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2220 [18:55] <dargrave493> other people
#2221 [18:55] <dargrave493> in my house
#2222 [18:56] <mattym> are they streaming movies or playing other online games?
#2223 [18:56] <dargrave493> not online games no, but what do you mean by streaming movies? like netflix?
#2224 [18:57] <mattym> yeah
#2225 [18:57] <dargrave493> sometimes
#2226 [18:57] <astrid46> no i log in and it says it and its dne that 2 tims
#2227 [18:57] <astrid46> done not dne'
#2228 [18:57] <Lord_Ralex> astrid46, can you get a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2229 [18:57] <dargrave493> i have an xbox though
#2230 [18:57] <astrid46> no
#2231 [18:58] <Lord_Ralex> astrid46, why not?
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#2233 [18:58] <mattym> dargrave493: when other people are using the internet it makes it slower for everyone on that network, the server you are trying to enter may be set to kick people with a slow connection
#2234 [18:58] <Lord_Ralex> ...
#2235 [18:58] <cestislife> That was amazing Ralex.
#2236 [18:59] <dargrave493> can i be fixed through my router?
#2237 [18:59] <Lord_Ralex> (2) means the OS is not recognized cestislife
#2238 [18:59] <mattym> dargrave493: no, its not really something that can be fixed
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#2240 [18:59] <cestislife> Failed to Launch (2) ?
#2241 [18:59] <becks_3992> its kinda like when youre eating cookies in a big crowd. its hard to get to the bowl because its so crowded. dargrave493
#2242 [18:59] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, yep
#2243 [19:00] <Lord_Ralex> which is really odd, and why i wanted that bloody crash report .-.
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#2245 [19:00] * _Rogue_ heard cookies
#2245 [19:00] * cestislife hides them
#2245 [19:00] <Lord_Ralex> _Rogue_, get cookies off your ping
#2246 [19:00] <dargrave493> so how can i play?
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#2248 [19:00] <_Rogue_> fff
#2249 [19:01] <mattym> dargrave493: Try another server, or ask around in your house to see if anyone is running something thats hogging up the internet
#2250 [19:01] <dargrave493> is this most likely the problem?
#2251 [19:02] <mattym> if the other people had no problem logging into the server then i would say yes
#2252 [19:02] <becks_3992> that happens all the time to me. or to my mom and she has to ask me to get off my ipod or what not.
#2253 [19:02] <dltelford> sorry cant run demo have current java 7. specs are following.Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac7,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz Number of Processors: 1 Total Number of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 4 MB Memory: 3 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03 SMC Version (system): 1.20f4 Serial Number (system): W8805DZNX86 Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-001EC21353B2
#2254 [19:02] <tyteen4a03> dltelford, please use Pastebin
#2255 [19:02] <cestislife> dtelford, please post the log on pastebin or pastie
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#2257 [19:03] <becks_3992> well i gotta go do homework. DONT MISS ME TOO MUCH!!!! :)
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#2274 [19:32] <stickypixel> Hello everyone.
#2275 [19:32] <cestislife> Hello
#2276 [19:32] <Andrio> Hello.
#2277 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Salutations
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#2279 [19:34] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - Hello, your highness. :b
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#2282 [19:35] <stickypixel> This is great > http://i.imgur.com/CVBuiCo.png
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#2284 [19:36] * VoxelHead kicked stickypixel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: tickypixel :Linking to pictures of the words that get you kicked, still get you kicked.)
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#2286 [19:37] <stickypixel> What just happened?
#2287 [19:37] <cestislife> You were kicked.
#2288 [19:37] <stickypixel> Yeah, but it said "(Linking to pictures of the words that get you kicked, still get you kicked.)"
#2289 [19:37] <stickypixel> What did it say that I was kicked for?
#2290 [19:37] <cestislife> The F word in that link.
#2291 [19:38] <stickypixel> Oh.
#2292 [19:38] <stickypixel> i see.
#2293 [19:38] <stickypixel> Sorry about that.
#2294 [19:38] <VoxelHead> All's well that ends well.
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#2296 [19:38] <stickypixel> VoxelHead <3
#2297 [19:39] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - Spite your many Debian distros, which one would be your favorite?
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#2301 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> stickypixel: I don't understand what you mean by spite.
#2302 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> Of the Debisn descendants, I'd go with Ubuntu Server
#2303 [19:44] <stickypixel> I meant despite, oops. :p
#2304 [19:44] <mattym> he probably used it as a shortened version of despote
#2305 [19:44] <mattym> despite*
#2306 [19:44] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - Have you used Arch?
#2307 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> so of _non_-Debian descendants?
#2308 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> I'd go with Gentoo (because I know it), but I hear Arch is good.
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#2310 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> I just haven't any hands-on with Arch so wouldn't feel comfortable recommending it
#2311 [19:45] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - Not exactly, you once said that you have a lot of Debian-based distros installed, I never knew you had more.
#2312 [19:45] <stickypixel> I want to try Gentoo, but I heard the setup is difficult.
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#2314 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> it's not difficult per se
#2315 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> it's just all manual
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#2317 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> you have to, for example, pick a cron daemon and logging daemon rather than having them pre-installed for you
#2318 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> the manual is _fantastic_
#2319 [19:46] <stickypixel> Except for installing Gentoo, another project I want to do in the future is use just the linux kernel and go from there.
#2320 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> and if you want to _learn_ how Linux and POSIX work, Gentoo is a _brilliant_ choice
#2321 [19:47] <stickypixel> DopeGhoti - Duly noted. I'll be sure to look into it. :)
#2322 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> if you want somethign that just works, I'd stick with Debian-descendants.
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#2326 [19:48] <stickypixel> I've been on *buntus for too long now, so now I plan on going more free with other distros.
#2327 [19:48] <stickypixel> I will admit though that I do have Ubuntu on my laptop right now.
#2328 [19:48] <stickypixel> But laptops are more fit for ubuntu.
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#2330 [19:49] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, ehh
#2331 [19:49] <Lord_Ralex> i have a laptop and prefer centos/mint
#2332 [19:49] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex - I could say, I once installed Ubuntu on my old desktop, and I couldn't reinstall Windows because it wrote over the MBR.
#2333 [19:50] <stickypixel> Laptop it didn't happen.
#2334 [19:50] <Lord_Ralex> that is not a desktop/laptop issue?
#2335 [19:50] <TMoney> Once I have purchased Minecraft online, Where do I go back in to access it after I have shut down?
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#2337 [19:50] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, windows installs are stupid for dual-booting, you want to install windows first then other OSes ;)
#2338 [19:51] <mattym> TMoney: What do you mean exactly
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#2340 [19:51] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex at the time I wasn't dual-booting, I was just reinstalling Windows over Ubuntu.
#2341 [19:51] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, again, not a desktop/laptop thing
#2342 [19:51] <Andrio> TMoney, log in with the launcher.
#2343 [19:52] <stickypixel> It was in my scenario.
#2344 [19:52] <TMoney> I went online and purchased Minecraft for my laptop, Java is downloaded, and I'm wondering if there should be an icon to launch.
#2345 [19:52] <mattym> you need to download the launcher from minecraft.net
#2346 [19:53] <Andrio> http://minecraft.net/download
#2347 [19:53] <Twisted_Fox> hi there im looking for someone who can read Hs_err_pid ?? im having issues trying to run minecraft, i can log in but when i play it says loading then black screens and closes leaving an error message
#2348 [19:53] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Twisted_Fox pastebin
#2349 [19:53] <VoxelHead> Twisted_Fox: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2350 [19:53] <stickypixel> ??> Twisted_Fox pastebin
#2351 [19:53] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex - Beat me to it.
#2352 [19:54] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, get used to it
#2353 [19:54] <Twisted_Fox> http://pastebin.com/11gbRz7A
#2354 [19:54] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex - I don't wanna. :(
#2355 [19:54] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Twisted_Fox dxdiag
#2356 [19:54] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Twisted_Fox win/dxdiag
#2357 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Twisted_Fox: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2358 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Twisted_Fox: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#2361 [19:57] <Twisted_Fox> is this safe?
#2362 [19:57] <Lord_Ralex> Twisted_Fox, yes
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#2366 [19:59] <TMoney> Will I need to change anything in my firewall(s) to all the launcher to run for Minecraft?
#2367 [20:00] <Twisted_Fox> http://pastebin.com/Sw5DcSCp
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#2369 [20:01] <Lord_Ralex> ?? gpu/intel
#2370 [20:01] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2371 [20:02] <Lord_Ralex> also, your computer is not really strong enough to run minecraft
#2372 [20:02] <mattym> yeah with that graphics card, your always gonna have issues
#2373 [20:02] <Twisted_Fox> 3Fps has never bothered me, aslong as it will run im amused
#2374 [20:02] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, i was looking at the cpu more really
#2375 [20:03] <Lord_Ralex> and the tam
#2376 [20:03] <Lord_Ralex> ram*
#2377 [20:03] <mattym> well the gpu doesnt help the case
#2378 [20:04] <mattym> i run MC just fine on a 1.5Ghz processor just fine
#2379 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> mattym: just finem you say?
#2380 [20:04] <mattym> yeah
#2381 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> that's just fine.
#2382 [20:04] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, what kind of cpu?
#2383 [20:04] <mattym> Core2Due
#2384 [20:05] <cestislife|away> TMoney, you need to download the client.
#2385 [20:05] <mattym> Duo*
#2386 [20:05] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex - Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 530 @ 1.73GHz, ~1.7GHz
#2387 [20:05] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, dual cores at least
#2388 [20:05] <cestislife|away> TMoney, what OS to you have?
#2389 [20:05] <Lord_Ralex> theirs was a single core
#2390 [20:05] <stickypixel> At least what it says in the DxDiag.
#2391 [20:05] <Lord_Ralex> stickypixel, why did you tell me that ?
#2392 [20:05] <stickypixel> Lord_Ralex - I have nothing better to do.
#2393 [20:05] <mattym> yeah but MC isnt really optimized for dual cores
#2394 [20:05] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, dual core will be better at least
#2395 [20:06] <Lord_Ralex> actually it is
#2396 [20:06] <mattym> yeah if im running a bunch of other stuff
#2397 [20:06] <Lord_Ralex> example: run MC one a multi-core with 1 core only allowed vs 2
#2398 [20:07] <Lord_Ralex> MC may not be more effective on a quad core, but it helps to have a dual core over a single core
#2399 [20:07] <Lord_Ralex> or if you want to be crazier, run it off a VM \o/
#2400 [20:08] <mattym> With MC cores wont make a huge difference, GPU and RAM will
#2401 [20:09] <Lord_Ralex> dual core is recommended
#2402 [20:09] <mattym> My desktop has the same series CPU as my laptop, but its twice as fast
#2403 [20:09] <Lord_Ralex> a quad core will not really yield better perforance over a dual core with minecraft
#2404 [20:09] <Lord_Ralex> ram does not really make a difference
#2405 [20:09] <mattym> However my laptop still runs MC better cause it has twice the RAM, and a new series of GPU
#2406 [20:10] <Lord_Ralex> give it only 512MB and it will be fine usually
#2407 [20:10] <Twisted_Fox> i have a secondary desktop with dual core intel, 9gb ram 4 of which physical and 120gb harddrive yet i still get framerate issues running mc
#2408 [20:10] <Lord_Ralex> unless you do abnormal stuff
#2409 [20:11] <Lord_Ralex> gpu does matter more than ram, out of the 3 specs, ram is the least one i am concerned about, unless you have under 2GB ram
#2410 [20:13] <Twisted_Fox> thankyou Lord_Relax i shall now restart me laptop and hope my issue is fixed, do you think it was just my chipset driver?
#2411 [20:13] <Lord_Ralex> Ralex*
#2412 [20:14] <Twisted_Fox> my apologies Lord_Ralex
#2413 [20:14] <Lord_Ralex> i just like correcting that
#2414 [20:14] <Twisted_Fox> :( dyslexic
#2415 [20:14] <Lord_Ralex> called Rolex/Relax at times
#2416 [20:14] <osuka_> lord relax lol
#2417 [20:14] <osuka_> just like people call me asuka
#2418 [20:14] <Lord_Ralex> it is what comes to mind
#2419 [20:14] <osuka_> and/or ozuka
#2420 [20:15] <osuka_> lol lord rolex
#2421 [20:15] <Lord_Ralex> like how you can just use the first and last letter and the rest can be scrambled
#2422 [20:15] <Lord_Ralex> your brain can still read it
#2423 [20:15] <osuka_> yeah, that's for sure
#2424 [20:15] <osuka_> that's how speed reading works, you know?
#2425 [20:15] <osuka_> not that difficult anyways.
#2426 [20:15] <Lord_Ralex> i don't really care that i get called that unless they are doing it to aggravate me
#2427 [20:15] <osuka_> =p
#2428 [20:16] <Twisted_Fox> then you hax them and make them pay?
#2429 [20:16] <Lard_Rolex> >_>
#2430 [20:16] <cestislife|away> Ely
#2431 [20:16] <cestislife|away> oooo
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#2440 [20:39] <Twisted_Fox> same problem to me, done loading message then blackscreen and crash http://pastebin.com/vxbGAudE
#2441 [20:41] <Twisted_Fox> http://pastebin.com/vxbGAudE
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#2443 [20:42] <Canada> I am trying to figure out how to shift click items
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#2446 [20:43] <cestislife|away> Canada, hold shift then click the item?
#2447 [20:43] <mattym> hold shift, click the item
#2448 [20:43] <Canada> ya i tried and nothing works
#2449 [20:43] <cestislife|away> Twisted_Fox, did you try reinstalling java?
#2450 [20:43] <Canada> yep
#2451 [20:44] <cestislife|away> That wasn't directed to you, but okay.
#2452 [20:44] <cestislife|away> Canada, try updating LWJGL.
#2453 [20:44] <Canada> ok thanks
#2454 [20:44] <cestislife|away> Canada, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1625325-how-to-update-lwjgl/
#2455 [20:44] <Twisted_Fox> cestislife, a few times
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#2458 [20:45] <cestislife|away> Twisted_Fox, this article might help
#2459 [20:45] <cestislife|away> http://java.com/en/download/help/exception_access.xml
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#2475 [21:14] <kyleator150> trying to import existing username got email but everytime i click link or try pasting it says invalid token
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#2480 [21:25] <joeblow> Hi, first time using irc, and I have a linux question for the minecraft team
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#2482 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Please note that nobody here works for Mojang, and that we're all community volunteers.
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#2484 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> We specialize in technical support and game issues.
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#2487 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> please state the nature of the POSIX emergency.
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#2489 [21:29] <joeblow> k, but if there is any way to bring this to mojang's attention it would be great. I've had the issue for a while where I have a stuck key running minecraft under linux and I found there was a simple fix. I had to upgrade the LWJGL file included with minecraft to the latest version and it fixed the issue. Apparently this issue has been around for over a year. Why hasn't mojang done the simple thing and upgraded the version of their library included wit
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#2491 [21:29] <Arceus3251> Hi
#2492 [21:29] <Arceus3251> http://pastebin.com/bXYb1Cqm
#2493 [21:29] <Arceus3251> I didn't do it xD
#2494 [21:29] <hey> hi all, I tried to install a mod and now when I try to start the game the screen sticks at "done downloading"
#2495 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> joeblow - Because upgrading the lwjgl files has been done before. It's broken many things as well.
#2496 [21:30] <Arceus3251> Did you delete meta -inf?
#2497 [21:30] <hey> no it wasn't listed
#2498 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> joeblow - Mojang still plans on releasing an updated lwjgl package with minecraft, but doesn't tell us when they'll do it. It'll probably be done after extensive compatibility testing
#2499 [21:30] <Arceus3251> what mod you using?
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#2501 [21:31] <hey> too many items
#2502 [21:31] <Arceus3251> Thats easy
#2503 [21:31] <Arceus3251> ok
#2504 [21:31] <Arceus3251> first
#2505 [21:31] <Arceus3251> updat your MC
#2506 [21:32] <joeblow> Seems like they could figure out what change fixed the stuck keys and release a small patch for that.
#2507 [21:32] <hey> it starts then hangs at done downloading
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#2510 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> joeblow: with a project with as many moving pieces as Minecraft has, there's no such thing as a 'small patch' in terms of QA testing.
#2511 [21:35] <joeblow> I write code for a living and I think finding out what causes stuck keys and fixing just that shouldn't be much of an issue
#2512 [21:36] <Lluvia> hello, I need some help, I purchased minecraft and cannot play because it says that I not giving a valid user and password, then I tryied to ask for my username in case that I am putting a wrong one but it says that my email adress is wrong...
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#2514 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> joeblow - Here is the deobsfucated object code for minecraft. Have at it: http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_Releases
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#2516 [21:37] <joeblow> I think it's important, because the stuck key thing makes playing under linux extremely frustrating and I think it would be an easy fix while being very helpful for people.
#2517 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> joeblow: to be fair, it's not as global a Linux issue as you seem to imply; I play nearly exclusively on Linux and rarely have any stuck-key problems
#2518 [21:39] <joeblow> didn't realize that, maybe it's just the way I and other people hit keys or maybe it's another issue entirely
#2519 [21:39] <Lluvia> hello, I need some help, I purchased minecraft and cannot play because it says that I not giving a valid user and password, then I tryied to ask for my username in case that I am putting a wrong one but it says that my email adress is wrong...
#2520 [21:40] <joeblow> you said that you rarely have stuck keys, does that mean it does happen to you.
#2521 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> Lluvia: can you log in at https://account.mojang.com/me ?
#2522 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> Lluvia: can you log in at https://account.mojang.com/me ?
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#2528 [21:45] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti, yes I am already logged in
#2529 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> Lluvia: okay, you may need to change your password.
#2530 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> there's a known problem where password with certain special characters do not work
#2531 [21:45] <Lluvia> I already did...
#2532 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> I hate to have to give this advice, but try an alphanumeric password.
#2533 [21:45] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti, oh, ok, let me try another password
#2534 [21:46] <Lluvia> yes, I do have an alphanumeric password...
#2535 [21:46] <Lluvia> but still cannot login to the game
#2536 [21:48] <DopeGhoti> on the account page, does Minecraft appear under Games?
#2537 [21:48] <DopeGhoti> on the account page, does Minecraft appear under Games?
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#2539 [21:49] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti nope, under My Games it doesn't appear the game
#2540 [21:49] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti nope, under My Games it doesn't appear the game
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#2542 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> Lluvia: that'd be the problem.
#2543 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> if it doesn't appear there, the game is not assicated with your account.
#2544 [21:50] <DopeGhoti> when did you purchase the game?
#2545 [21:51] <Lluvia> Ajnuary 19, I think you're right because the confirmation email got to my brother's email account
#2546 [21:51] * Me4502 is now known as Me4502|Away
#2547 [21:51] <Lluvia> then he resend it to me, and then I creater an account with my email adress
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#2549 [21:53] <rob_> hello anyone here?
#2550 [21:53] <Red_M> no we are all dead
#2551 [21:53] <DopeGhoti> Lluvia: okay, it looks like then you'll have to log in with the account associated with your brother's email address.
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#2553 [21:55] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti, ok, let me try that, in case that I have some other problems I'll be back here...lol
#2554 [21:57] <Lluvia> DopeGhoti thanks a lot!!!
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#2563 [22:07] <MikeDude> I have minecarts in the nether at lava level, and sometimes I start on fire for no reason. I don't go past lava falls or anything like that, I'm usually in a tunnel when it happens...
#2564 [22:08] <xales> are you using any mods?
#2565 [22:08] <MikeDude> no
#2566 [22:08] <xales> if not, it's probably just a bug, you could report it on the wiki
#2567 [22:08] <DopeGhoti> or it could be one of the little fireball/bubbles that pop out of magma from time to time
#2568 [22:10] <MikeDude> I was thinking that might be it, if they can travel diagonally
#2569 [22:10] <DopeGhoti> they can
#2570 [22:10] <MikeDude> i covered the lava with a brick, but apparently that's not enough...
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#2574 [22:12] <DopeGhoti> fire can go through at least one layer of blocks
#2575 [22:13] <DopeGhoti> IDK about magma sparks
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#2581 [22:33] <mattym> magma sparks have reach, the "Blacksmith House" in villages are actually death traps
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#2583 [22:34] <fatherme> I need help running a world I downloaded. When I put the contents in the world folder, it doesn't load the world they created. I loads the world they started with.
#2584 [22:34] <mattym> are you doing server-to-single player or the reverse?
#2585 [22:35] <fatherme> I'm running it on bukkit server. I assume they were running on a server, but unsure.
#2586 [22:35] <fatherme> here is the link to the world http://theevollutions.deviantart.com/art/Minecraft-NPC-City-265578334
#2587 [22:35] <mattym> so your going from a save that was on a server to one also on a server?
#2588 [22:35] * Disori|off is now known as Disori
#2589 [22:36] <fatherme> yes, I believe
#2590 [22:37] <mattym> well looking on the site, are you maybe spawning in the world in a place not near the structures?
#2591 [22:38] <fatherme> just a sec, I'm checking to see if it is a single player file...
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#2593 [22:39] <karim090> hi
#2594 [22:40] <karim090> someone there?
#2595 [22:40] <mattym> yeah
#2596 [22:40] <karim090> =)
#2597 [22:40] <fatherme> You were right, it's a single player world
#2598 [22:40] <karim090> here can ask about minecraft moding?
#2599 [22:41] <fatherme> How do I convert a single player world to server?
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#2601 [22:41] <mattym> it shouldnt require and converting
#2602 [22:41] <yobro449> how do u put mods on?
#2603 [22:41] <Rikairchy> hi
#2604 [22:41] <mattym> karim090 and yobro449 this is not that channel for Mod help
#2605 [22:42] <karim090> ohh, ty
#2606 [22:42] <karim090> sry
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#2608 [22:42] <yobro449> what channel is then
#2609 [22:42] <mattym> none really. there is no general mod channel you need to look for help from the specific mod author
#2610 [22:43] <mattym> fatherme: Here is what you need to do
#2611 [22:43] <mattym> its an older file
#2612 [22:43] <mattym> so load it up in single player once
#2613 [22:43] <mattym> then just copy the stuff into the server
#2614 [22:43] <mattym> then it should work
#2615 [22:44] <yobro449> thx'
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#2619 [22:45] <GiveUsAHand> HELLOOO!! got an issue logging in! bought minecraft for my son & trying to set up for the morning. bought the gift code. entered into his account, downloaded "Minecraft Launcher" but saying "login failed" (not downloaded) WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?
#2620 [22:45] <Rikairchy> typing in caps, first
#2621 [22:46] <fatherme> mattym: thank you
#2622 [22:46] <Rikairchy> second: probably a wrong email/password combination
#2623 [22:46] <mattym> np
#2624 [22:46] <mattym> yeah remember that if its a new account, when you log in, use the email not the user name
#2625 [22:47] <GiveUsAHand> they're both right/correct. havent set up a username yet anyway
#2626 [22:47] <Rikairchy> try resetting the password?
#2627 [22:47] <GiveUsAHand> entered email address and password
#2628 [22:47] <mattym> how long ago?
#2629 [22:47] <GiveUsAHand> 10 mins
#2630 [22:47] <GiveUsAHand> 15 mins
#2631 [22:47] <mattym> and where do you live?
#2632 [22:48] <GiveUsAHand> uk
#2633 [22:48] <mattym> well yeah then its an international transaction
#2634 [22:48] <Rikairchy> up late? :o
#2635 [22:48] <GiveUsAHand> work nights :(
#2636 [22:49] <GiveUsAHand> why would international trans' make a difference?
#2637 [22:49] <Rikairchy> aw that's harsh. I generally work early morning to late night :\
#2638 [22:49] <fatherme> that worked! Thanks again!
#2639 [22:49] <GiveUsAHand> im opposite
#2640 [22:49] <TheNoodle> Because a lot of banks don't trust international transactions
#2641 [22:50] <Lilmau5ie> Especially after HSBC.
#2642 [22:50] <mattym> cause international transactions generaly take time and communication between companies
#2643 [22:50] <GiveUsAHand> it said the gift code was accepted
#2644 [22:50] <TheNoodle> mattym: They're still instant.
#2645 [22:51] <mattym> not if your bank/provider has a policy against it
#2646 [22:51] <GiveUsAHand> so anyway....
#2647 [22:51] <GiveUsAHand> how do i get this game to work?
#2648 [22:51] <GiveUsAHand> i wanna go to bed!
#2649 [22:51] <TheNoodle> mattym: Then that isn't taking time for communication between companies, just your provider being bad.
#2650 [22:51] <TheNoodle> GiveUsAHand: Have you logged into mojang.com?
#2651 [22:52] <GiveUsAHand> yup
#2652 [22:52] <GiveUsAHand> i set up account in my name to buy the game & one in my sons name...
#2653 [22:52] <TheNoodle> And minecraft is listed under my games?
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#2655 [22:53] <TheNoodle> (Wi a username set up)
#2656 [22:53] <GiveUsAHand> logged into my sons to redeem the gift code (accepted) downloaded the server & launcher and the said login failed
#2657 [22:53] <DopeGhoti> GiveUsAHand: are there any special characters in the associated password?
#2658 [22:54] <DopeGhoti> There's a known problem right now with complex passwords
#2659 [22:54] <GiveUsAHand> just letters & numbers
#2660 [22:54] <mattym> and you said you didnt set up a username yet?
#2661 [22:54] <GiveUsAHand> no symbols
#2662 [22:55] <GiveUsAHand> not yet
#2663 [22:55] <mattym> well that could be an issue
#2664 [22:55] <GiveUsAHand> thought he'd like to choose his name
#2665 [22:55] <mattym> did your account work?
#2666 [22:55] <DopeGhoti> GiveUsAHand: yeah until the username is set up, you can't log into Minecraft
#2667 [22:55] <GiveUsAHand> didnt try mine
#2668 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> give that one a whirl (:
#2669 [22:56] <GiveUsAHand> in theory i didnt buy the game tho! he redeemed the gift
#2670 [22:56] <mattym> so on your mojang account you dont actually own any games
#2671 [22:56] <GiveUsAHand> can i set up a username and change if hedoesnt want that one?
#2672 [22:57] <mattym> nope
#2673 [22:57] <GiveUsAHand> not on mine, on his
#2674 [22:57] <GiveUsAHand> he does
#2675 [22:57] <GiveUsAHand> oh:(
#2676 [22:57] <GiveUsAHand> should there be an icon on my desktop?
#2677 [22:57] <mattym> no
#2678 [22:57] <mattym> it doesnt make one unless you tell it to
#2679 [22:58] <mattym> or you can just move the launcher you downloaded to the desktop
#2680 [22:58] <GiveUsAHand> you just log into minecraft.net?
#2681 [22:58] <mattym> that is what he will be using to start the game
#2682 [22:58] <GiveUsAHand> do you need to download or can you just play in browser?
#2683 [22:58] <mattym> you need to download
#2684 [22:58] <GiveUsAHand> ok
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#2688 [23:00] <GiveUsAHand> im gonna switch everything off, get a hammer & give the computer a little tap! then start again! see if that works! thanks
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#2690 [23:01] <mattym> or you can just wait for him to wake up make a username and then this will all work
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#2692 [23:04] <Pleasehelpme> how do i fix the demo for minecraft its on saying apllication erro? what does that mean? help please
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#2694 [23:04] <Ben> hello
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#2696 [23:05] <Guest4800> Can someone please let me know if this game "Minecraft" works on Mac and if so what version of Mac?
#2697 [23:05] <Pleasehelpme> anything above the 2006 version
#2698 [23:05] <Guest4800> i am running the latest mac O/S
#2699 [23:05] <mattym> then you should be fine
#2700 [23:05] <Pleasehelpme> should work
#2701 [23:06] <mattym> unless you somehow have the latest OS on a PowerPC mac
#2702 [23:06] <Guest4800> every time i try to click in the DEMO button, it would complains about some java plugin missing even though i have successfully installed it
#2703 [23:06] <Pleasehelpme> i want to play the demo and it wont let me can anyone help me? it keeps on saying aplication error
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#2705 [23:07] <Pleasehelpme> same for me
#2706 [23:07] <nick> ive had 2 "emails" sent to me but none of them r in my inbox..
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#2708 [23:07] <Guest4800> i went to this link http://minecraft.net and click on the demo but nothing happen
#2709 [23:07] <mattym> On the Mac what version of java do you have
#2710 [23:07] <Guest41039> ive had 2 "emails" sent to me but none of them r in my inbox..
#2711 [23:08] <Pleasehelpme> i dont have a mac i hvae a asus brandnew one with windows 8 but it still wont let me play the demo
#2712 [23:08] <mattym> check your junk folder
#2713 [23:08] <Guest41039> theres nothing in there
#2714 [23:08] <Guest41039> new email
#2715 [23:08] <mattym> there are problems with windows 8
#2716 [23:08] <Guest41039> im on win7
#2717 [23:08] <Guest4800> wow, this is weird, now it doing something, it installing something on my machine, hope it's not virus
#2718 [23:08] <mattym> ??< win8
#2719 [23:08] <Guest41039> windows 7
#2720 [23:09] <Guest4800> hmm after the install, blank screen
#2721 [23:09] <Pleasehelpme> so does that mea i cant play minecraft becuase it keeps saying aplication errs is there any way i can fix it
#2722 [23:09] <Guest41039> lol i just wanna verify so i can buy the game?
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#2724 [23:10] <mattym> the email you registered is correct right?
#2725 [23:10] <Pleasehelpme> how can i fix my problem
#2726 [23:10] <Pleasehelpme> ?
#2727 [23:11] <Guest4800> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Failed to start game A full error report has been saved to /Users/limvo05/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-01-24_20.10.56-client.txt - Please include a copy of that file (Not this screen!) if you report this crash to anyone; without it, they will not be able to help fix the crash :(
#2728 [23:11] <mattym> hang on im looking for the windows 8 help page
#2729 [23:11] <Guest4800> any idea what this is about>
#2730 [23:11] <mattym> go to that file and link a pastebin for it
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#2732 [23:12] <Guest4800> where can i find it
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#2735 [23:13] <mattym> in the folder where it told you it put it
#2736 [23:13] <mattym> Pleasehelpme: what is the exact issue your having
#2737 [23:14] <Bry> hello is anyone there that can help me?
#2738 [23:15] <mattym> depends on the problem, shoot
#2739 [23:15] <Pleasehelpme> well im trying to play the demo so i can buy the game later
#2740 [23:15] <Pleasehelpme> but when i try to play it it loads the says error
#2741 [23:15] <Pleasehelpme> application erro
#2742 [23:15] <mattym> right, are you sure you installed the propper version of java
#2743 [23:16] <Pleasehelpme> yes the latest
#2744 [23:16] <Bry> I have a minecraft account that i can't sign into and i have been told it's because i might not have the right password
#2745 [23:17] <mattym> Pleasehelpme: I think you are having gaphics driver issues, you need to install the windows 7 versions of your graphics drivers
#2746 [23:18] <mattym> Bry: When did you make the account
#2747 [23:18] <Bry> I don't know the exact date but i know it was about a year ago
#2748 [23:19] <Bry> i have the username and the Transaction ID
#2749 [23:19] <Pleasehelpme> how do i do that
#2750 [23:19] <mattym> ok so you should just be able to recover the password, it gets sent to the email you used to creat the account
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#2753 [23:20] <mattym> Pleasehelpme: Google Windows 8 and Minecraft
#2754 [23:20] <mattym> there should be a ton of videos covering what you need to do
#2755 [23:20] <sss> mine craft has crashed.... what do i need to do to get this to work on my macbook pro
#2756 [23:20] <Chadj2015> Hello Can a Mojang Admin message me plz<
#2757 [23:20] <sss> i need help please
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#2759 [23:21] <mattym> Chadj2015: Very few mojang employees actually keep a constant eye on this, whats your issue
#2760 [23:21] <Chadj2015> hello
#2761 [23:21] <mattym> sss: Was it working at any point before now?
#2762 [23:22] <sss> no, i just purchased it
#2763 [23:22] <sss> i had to update my java
#2764 [23:22] <sss> and when i try to play now it gives a long coded message
#2765 [23:22] <mattym> did you restart after that update?
#2766 [23:22] <Chadj2015> Mattym i pm u check
#2767 [23:23] <sss> no. do i need to?
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#2769 [23:23] <mattym> give it a try
#2770 [23:23] <sss> i will do that now.
#2771 [23:24] <GiveUsAHand> mattym im back
#2772 [23:24] <Chadj2015> i need help reseting my email address on my mojang account
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#2774 [23:24] <mattym> Chadj2015: that is gonna be really hard to do
#2775 [23:24] <GiveUsAHand> how can i set up a username if i cant enter minecraft without a username?
#2776 [23:25] <Chadj2015> plz i really need help
#2777 [23:25] <GiveUsAHand> it says enter username although you guys said use email
#2778 [23:25] <mattym> GiveUsAHand: On the website where you purchased the account, you log in as set a username
#2779 [23:26] <Chadj2015> i need help reseting my email address on my mojang account plz help
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#2781 [23:26] <mattym> what do you mean reset?
#2782 [23:27] <mattym> when yo log into the game it says "username" because it used to use the actual user name, recently however they make you log in with the email you registered with
#2783 [23:27] <Bry> Hey mattym is there anyway i can get my password if i give you the transaction ID and username?
#2784 [23:27] <Chadj2015> i meant change the email address that is linked with my account because i no longer have access to my email account so plz help <<@mattym
#2785 [23:27] <mattym> Bry: No, just go to the site and recover your password
#2786 [23:28] <mattym> Chadj2015: No one here works for Mojang, and Mojang themselve will never do that, its a security issue
#2787 [23:28] <Bry> When i try to it says an email has been sent but i never recieve it
#2788 [23:29] <GiveUsAHand> thats what ive been doing but someone said it might be an issue that i dont have a username! just checked mojang and no option to enter new username (i dont mean change i mean i havent had one)
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#2790 [23:29] <mattym> give it some time or check your spam folder
#2791 [23:30] <mattym> GiveUsAHand: If i remember you said the only account you bought it for was your sons, so you need to log into his and create a username
#2792 [23:30] <Bry> I have done both in fact i have waited a few weeks and still never recieved anything
#2793 [23:30] <GiveUsAHand> i did that & it said "create username" but i skipped and cant get back to it
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#2796 [23:33] <mattym> Bry and GiveUsAHand You may both be able to fix this by going to mojang.com
#2797 [23:34] <mattym> log in there
#2798 [23:34] <GiveUsAHand> been there, done that
#2799 [23:34] <mattym> or in your case Bry try to use the recover feature there
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#2801 [23:35] <GiveUsAHand> why have i just wasted £18 on something you cant help me with mate?
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#2804 [23:35] <mattym> GiveUsAHand: Did you log into your sons account there
#2805 [23:35] <mattym> then click on the my account button
#2806 [23:35] <GiveUsAHand> iyeah, i am right now
#2807 [23:35] <batman> help
#2808 [23:35] <batman> hello
#2809 [23:35] <cestislife|away> ?? patience
#2810 [23:35] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2811 [23:35] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#2812 [23:35] <mattym> not any of the drop downs, but the my account button itself
#2813 [23:35] <cestislife> brb
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#2817 [23:36] <mattym> and next to minecraft, where it says profile name, can you click on anything
#2818 [23:37] <fusionsss> If anyone could help me i would appreciate it, so i was trying to import a new world to my vanilla server this is what i get when i start it up http://pastebin.com/9RsAYiBE
#2819 [23:37] <mattym> that error report should be a lot longer
#2820 [23:38] <GiveUsAHand> okay it say migrate my minecraft account but "enter minecraft username & password" but i dont have a username yet
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#2822 [23:38] <fusionsss> umhm
#2823 [23:38] <mattym> try just using the amil for now
#2824 [23:38] <mattym> email*
#2825 [23:38] <GiveUsAHand> ill give it a go! thanks pal
#2826 [23:39] <mattym> in the future, its not a good idea to only half go through a registration
#2827 [23:39] <fusionsss> this is the whole error http://pastebin.com/YYyr0hNN
#2828 [23:40] <fusionsss> then the server doesnt start or do anything.
#2829 [23:41] <mattym> is it a vanila map save?
#2830 [23:41] <fusionsss> i just downloaded this and trying to importi t
#2831 [23:41] <fusionsss> import it *
#2832 [23:41] <GiveUsAHand> clearly! but in future it might be a good idea to have an option to change username....anyway 2 late now... its not having the email, its just asking for "minecraft username"
#2833 [23:42] <mattym> If your suggesting the ability to change a username you obviously dont play a lot of video games
#2834 [23:43] <GiveUsAHand> like i said....its for my son
#2835 [23:43] <mattym> yeah, no one lets you change usernames
#2836 [23:43] <mattym> its a matter of security
#2837 [23:43] <mattym> fusionsss: Try deleting the players folder, and the session lock files
#2838 [23:43] <GiveUsAHand> well i dont even need to change! just one will do
#2839 [23:43] <mattym> when you import it
#2840 [23:44] <fusionsss> ok
#2841 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: If you go to account.mojang.com - you will see your profile name there, if you have one. That is your username.
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#2843 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: With minecraft.net accounts you used to use your username to log in to the game launcher. Now, with mojang.com accounts, it is your email address that you use instead, instead of the username, for logging in to the game launcher
#2844 [23:45] <mattym> his problem is that he quit out of the registration befor making a name
#2845 [23:45] <fusionsss> thank you so much!
#2846 [23:45] <fusionsss> i REALLY appreciate!
#2847 [23:45] <fusionsss> thanks for your help
#2848 [23:45] <fusionsss> :)
#2849 [23:45] <mattym> and it doesnt seem to want to let him back to the username creation screen
#2850 [23:46] <Lucas236> I have registered under an email with a typo. I have not paid yet, but want to...How do I change this...I have already tried once, but it gives me an error message
#2851 [23:46] <GiveUsAHand> no profile name just my sons name but not all as one word so wont be that
#2852 [23:47] <GiveUsAHand> any ideas diskdaemon?
#2853 [23:48] <GiveUsAHand> userame has to be all one word right?
#2854 [23:48] <mattym> If you havent paid yet Lucas236 then just register a new account with the correct email
#2855 [23:49] <Lucas236> When I go to the site, it automatically takes me to the site with the wrong email...when I try to change it it gives me an error message
#2856 [23:49] <mattym> log out
#2857 [23:49] <mattym> rather, log out then clear your browsers cache before you try again
#2858 [23:49] <Lucas236> okay, thank you
#2859 [23:50] <GiveUsAHand> no ideas then?
#2860 [23:50] <mattym> Its honestly not something people have to deal with that often
#2861 [23:51] <mattym> thus we dont really know how to fix it
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#2863 [23:51] <GiveUsAHand> you are the tech guys right?
#2864 [23:52] <mattym> yeah, but we are not magicians
#2865 [23:52] <mattym> we cant turn back time and fix peoples mistakes
#2866 [23:52] <TheNoodle> most if the assistance provided in this channel is technical in nature, not account issues.
#2867 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: The profile name is what is required before you can log in. It's what people see you as, on multiplayer servers
#2868 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: If there isn't a profile name on your account, and the account has been paid for, there should be the option there to complete that part of things
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#2870 [23:55] <GiveUsAHand> have you been on the mojang website? its as basic as the 1980s
#2871 [23:55] <mattym> No, its just not flashy
#2872 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: What do you see on there, in the My Games section of the page?
#2873 [23:56] <lucas236> I cannot get anything to erase. Your site autimatically takes me to the page where I registered under an email with a typo. Can you reset this site completely? Is there a phone number where I can call?
#2874 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> lucas236: There is no telephone support
#2875 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> You may need to contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2876 [23:56] <GiveUsAHand> Did you know that if you've already bought Minecraft you can import your existing profile into this account? If you do, you should start using your Mojang account e-mail as username when logging in.
#2877 [23:57] <mattym> did you clear your browsers cache like i said lucas236
#2878 [23:57] <lucas236> yes
#2879 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: Thanks - that confirms for us that the account you're looking at has not been paid for
#2880 [23:57] <lucas236> i didn't get to the point of payment yet
#2881 [23:57] <GiveUsAHand> i click on that link and it says "thanks" enter "minecraft username"
#2882 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: Which explains exactly why you are having no success when logging in to the game launcher. Unpaid accounts aren't allowed through
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#2884 [23:58] <mattym> lucas236: Ok also make sure that the browser doesnt save the loging info
#2885 [23:58] <lucas236> he's playing under your demo until now
#2886 [23:58] <GiveUsAHand> dont get sarcastic! if you want a screenshot ill show you the redeemed code
#2887 [23:58] <lucas236> all information was cleaned, by me
#2888 [23:59] <mattym> GiveUsAHand: When your trying to log in, you are using your sons info cause that is the account you redeemed under right?
#2889 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> GiveUsAHand: A screenshot of the account page, to help clear up any confusion, might help. I would scrub out any unique identifying codes beforehand though