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#4 [00:05] <mattym> At this point Mojang should really consider hiring full time support staff
#5 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Then people will demand multilingual support, then 24/7 support, then a call center, then...
#6 [00:06] <SinZ> having a 24/7 support team for... 1 game
#7 [00:06] <mattym> Whats wrong with that? They are far from an "indie" developer these days
#8 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> With one game in their portfolio?
#9 [00:07] <mattym> Yeah and a bunch on the horizon
#10 [00:07] <SinZ> they have 2 in the horizon
#11 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Which isn't out, and isn't garnering them any income.
#12 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> So you can't really count them anyways
#13 [00:08] <mattym> Well even if they have one game, Minecraft is a full product
#14 [00:08] <mattym> you should support your product
#15 [00:09] <SinZ> The community does a pretty good job at supporting itself though
#16 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> They are. You need to understand that we are not Mojang's official support team
#17 [00:09] <mattym> yeah but we can only help so much, we cant resolve any account issues
#18 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> All of us here, are doing this out of our own free will. Mojang has a support team now, that does account and billing support
#19 [00:10] <TheNoodle> Not many games have decent technical support provided by the company.
#20 [00:10] <SinZ> Borderlands 2 had a half decent technical support
#21 [00:10] <SinZ> s/had/has
#22 [00:10] <mattym> GreyVulpine: i know we are all volunteers, thats why im saying Mojang should devote more resources towards an official support team
#23 [00:11] <SinZ> in a perfect world, this channel wouldn't be used
#24 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> mattym - I understand, but the logistics don't support it. Will Mojang purchase a full test bed of every possible combination of computers out there, just to support it? Will they hire a QA team that can fully explore each and every patch that rolls out for any short-comings?
#25 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> No company has that capability.
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#27 [00:13] <mattym> well a staff support position would still be better money spent than their "community manager"
#28 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Their support staff is fully capable, albeit a tad behind, in answering support tickets. Their infrastructure is there.
#29 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> I don't see why a small company, with one game in their portfolio, needs to hire dozens of support staff, just to answer technical questions.
#30 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> When those questions can be easily googled, or answered by the dedicated community volunteers.
#31 [00:16] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: do you know how to fix CorruptBootConfigData on win7, 64bit
#32 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Er, what?
#33 [00:17] <SinZ> Thats the error that Startup Repair gives me, that it doesn't know how to fix
#34 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me more information? What are the events that lead up to this?
#35 [00:18] <Gone_Ralex> can't windows fix that error though? if you are in startup repair?
#36 [00:19] <mattym> sounds like it could be a problem with his MBR
#37 [00:19] <SinZ> Gone_Ralex: it was an error box, saying it cant fix it
#38 [00:19] <Gone_Ralex> SinZ, eww
#39 [00:20] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: I had a BSOD, which resulted in win7 hating life, and I have taken out a ramstick, as memtest found an error in one
#40 [00:20] <SinZ> when I start windows 7, it just doesn't finish loading, stays in the loading screen with the moving windows logo
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#42 [00:21] <mattym> sounds even more like something happened to the hard disk
#43 [00:22] <SinZ> I'll see what gParted has to say
#44 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried F8 before booting into windows? Try some of the advanced startup options. Go with Last known good, then safe mode?
#45 [00:26] <SinZ> F8 be hating life
#46 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> That's not good
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#48 [00:27] <SinZ> because startup repair is an option, the F8 menu isn't showing
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#50 [00:28] <SinZ> owait
#51 [00:28] <SinZ> managed to get it to work
#52 [00:30] <TheNoodle> I've lost two graphics cards in a week :o
#53 [00:31] <mattym> Old age or poor construction?
#54 [00:31] <Gone_Ralex> or cause of accidents?
#55 [00:32] <SinZ> well
#56 [00:32] <SinZ> last known good settings failed
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#58 [00:35] * SinZ looks for the install disk
#58 [00:35] <mattym> install disk may not even help if the actuall HDD failed
#59 [00:36] <mattym> do you know who made the hard drive in that pc
#60 [00:36] <Gone_Ralex> that doesn't seem like a hdd failure though
#61 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> At this point, I'm leaning towards a reinstall
#62 [00:36] <SinZ> the hdd, is hitachi or something
#63 [00:36] <SinZ> ssd, (boot drive) is intel
#64 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Ew, hitachi.
#65 [00:36] <Gone_Ralex> yeah, probably just reinstall is best
#66 [00:36] <TheNoodle> One new, one old
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#68 [00:37] <mattym> SinZ: are you on a full desktop?
#69 [00:37] <SinZ> mattym: yup
#70 [00:37] <mattym> are both the SSD and HDD on SATA ports?
#71 [00:38] <SinZ> yup
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#73 [00:38] <mattym> hmmm, then go with a reinstall and hope for the best
#74 [00:39] <mattym> or make sure that the SSD (boot) is on a sata port with a physically lower number than the HDD
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#76 [00:47] <SinZ> heh, install disk wouldn't boot on sata, but booted on uefi fine
#77 [00:48] <mattym> you should unplug the regular HDD while you are doing all of this
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#97 [01:31] <SinZ> very odd, BIOS cant even see the ssd =S
#98 [01:32] <mattym> Maybe it died
#99 [01:33] <mattym> is it a SATA 3 or SATA 2 connection?
#100 [01:33] <SinZ> should be SATA 3
#101 [01:34] <mattym> Hmmm, ive personally had trouble with those, because most motherboards have a 3rd party controller for their sata3 ports
#102 [01:35] <mattym> For diagnostic purposes you can try plugging it into one of your SATA 2 ports
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#107 [01:58] <SinZ> well, unplugging, and plugging back in the sata cord, the bios found the ssd again
#108 [01:58] <SinZ> not that its fixing errors
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#110 [01:59] <Vergil> Beep
#111 [01:59] <Gone_Ralex> boop
#112 [02:00] <Vergil> Is there any theoreticle reason i am unable to type once opening a book (unsigned) ?
#113 [02:00] <SinZ> 100% vannila server and client, yes?
#114 [02:00] <SinZ> not that server really matters in this
#115 [02:03] <Vergil> no its not...
#116 [02:03] <Vergil> lemme try vanilla client
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#118 [02:05] <Vergil> Vanilla client == same problem
#119 [02:06] <Vergil> the server IS bukkit though
#120 [02:06] <Vergil> which is another part of what is confusing
#121 [02:08] <pyromaniac3814> does anyone think that they should make more destuctive weapons for vanilla ?
#122 [02:09] <pyromaniac3814> simmilar to mods but not as OP
#123 [02:12] <pyromaniac3814> like a tnt cannon that has a farther range or some other thing
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#156 [03:31] <trav> min
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#158 [03:33] <trav> my minecraft program says that offline mode is not downloaded. how do i fix it?
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#160 [03:34] <trav> my minecraft program says that the offline mod is not downloaded. how do i fix it?
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#189 [05:17] <YinTaiYang> i'm having some very serious client side lag issues
#190 [05:18] <YinTaiYang> it's so bad that I can't play on any server
#191 [05:18] <YinTaiYang> ironically even my own
#192 [05:18] <YinTaiYang> can someone help with this?
#193 [05:20] <cestislife> Hmm
#194 [05:20] <cestislife> Did you try updating all your drivers, and java?
#195 [05:21] <YinTaiYang> it's not an fps or something
#196 [05:21] <YinTaiYang> it's like when i join a server
#197 [05:21] <YinTaiYang> falling in darkness and then read timed out
#198 [05:21] <YinTaiYang> or delayed chat
#199 [05:21] <YinTaiYang> reaching almost 3+ minutes
#200 [05:21] <cestislife> Ahh, most likely latency between client and server?
#201 [05:22] <YinTaiYang> yes
#202 [05:22] <cestislife> <YinTaiYang> ironically even my own
#203 [05:22] <cestislife> ^ hosted locally?
#204 [05:22] <YinTaiYang> nope
#205 [05:23] <cestislife> Ah then yeah, it would be severe latency.
#206 [05:23] <cestislife> Which I don't think we can help with :(
#207 [05:26] <YinTaiYang> I don't know how it could be latency
#208 [05:26] <YinTaiYang> Isn't latency the result of a slow internet?
#209 [05:26] <cestislife> Exactly
#210 [05:27] <YinTaiYang> My friend has a slower internet than me but doesn't have the same problem
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#223 [06:49] <GLaDOS_> hey
#224 [06:49] <GLaDOS_> this is kinda relating to minecraft
#225 [06:49] <GLaDOS_> im doing a project at college and i need the item images for all the tools, weapons and amour
#226 [06:50] <GLaDOS_> i tried on the wiki but when i clicked on the image i needed it kept sending me back to the page
#227 [06:50] <GLaDOS_> can someone send me the images i need plox
#228 [06:50] <cestislife> The images exist in the minecraft texture itself.
#229 [06:51] <cestislife> Even easier, now that the textures are split into different images in the latest snapshot.
#230 [06:52] <GLaDOS_> thing is im at college atm and i need the images asap
#231 [06:52] <GLaDOS_> i dont have a way to run minecraft on these systems and even if i did i wouldnt be able to open the .jar becuase 7 zip isnt installed on these computer
#232 [06:53] <GLaDOS_> there isnt any archive software on
#233 [06:53] <cestislife> As I recall, Win7 has a built in archive browser.
#234 [06:53] <cestislife> For .zip files, anyway
#235 [06:53] <GLaDOS_> even if there was the snapshot has the idividual files and i cant get the snapshot stuff
#236 [06:54] <GLaDOS_> yeah it does but minecraft is .jar and im using the default textures to save confusion
#237 [06:54] <cestislife> You can rename the jar to .zip
#238 [06:54] <cestislife> :)
#239 [06:54] <GLaDOS_> can you?
#240 [06:54] <GLaDOS_> if i pm you my email can you send me the latest snapshot plox
#241 [06:56] <GLaDOS_> im going to lunch now ill pm you my email k
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#244 [07:02] <K3V1N8700> montezuma?
#245 [07:03] <K3V1N8700> any1 here?
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#257 [07:55] <jackson1993> i bought minecraft and i have been charged. just wondering how i get the game?
#258 [07:56] <cestislife> Get the client, and login. - http://minecraft.net/download
#259 [07:56] <cestislife> This is assuming you have already created a profile name on http://accounts.mojang.com
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#261 [07:58] <jackson1993> it says "login failed"
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#263 [07:59] <cestislife> jackson1993, that can mean these things, 1. wrong credentials 2. you have not created a profile name
#264 [07:59] <cestislife> Go to http://accounts.mojang.com/me , what do you see under My Games?
#265 [08:00] <jackson1993> yes, i need to create a profile name. how do i do that?
#266 [08:00] <cestislife> Go to http://accounts.mojang.com/me
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#268 [08:02] <jackson1993> when i try to migrate my minecraft account it says i need to type my minecraft username. which i dont have
#269 [08:02] <cestislife> Yes I know, you're not supposed to migrate :p
#270 [08:03] <cestislife> Are you on the mojang account that you've used to process the payment?
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#272 [08:03] <jackson1993> yes
#273 [08:03] <cestislife> what do you see under My Games?
#274 [08:03] <cestislife> Or is that not there?
#275 [08:04] <jackson1993> when i go to that link it says "did you know you have already bought minecraft"
#276 [08:04] <cestislife> What happens if you click it?
#277 [08:05] <cestislife> Also, I bought my own account before the Mojang accounts merge, so I'm not sure how the entire process works exactly.
#278 [08:05] <cestislife> I'm going off memory of how it went for other people.
#279 [08:06] <jackson1993> theres an option to redeem a pre paid card which i dont have
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#281 [08:06] <cestislife> Again, what happens if you go to http://accounts.mojang.com/me ?
#282 [08:06] <cestislife> Do you see My Games?
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#284 [08:07] <jackson1993> yes i see my games and minecraft is there
#285 [08:07] <cestislife> What is under Profile Name?
#286 [08:08] <jackson1993> just my email
#287 [08:08] <Sharky> I am unable to get connected to skyblock.craftgasm.net I always get disconected and minecraft crashes a lot
#288 [08:08] <cestislife> No prompt of getting a username?
#289 [08:09] <cestislife> !check skyblock.craftgasm.net
#290 [08:09] <cestislife> It seems the server is not the problem Sharky.
#291 [08:09] <Sharky> Check it how
#292 [08:09] <jackson1993> i cant see anything about a username
#293 [08:10] <Sharky> i know i just figured it out it is my acount
#294 [08:10] <cestislife> jackson1993, refer to this article - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/928638-minecraft-usernames
#295 [08:10] <Sharky> i cant even stay on for 25 sec
#296 [08:11] <jackson1993> ok thanks.
#297 [08:11] <jackson1993> ok thanks.
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#299 [08:11] <cestislife> Sharky, does this happen on other servers?
#300 [08:11] <Sharky> no
#301 [08:11] <Sharky> just that one
#302 [08:11] <cestislife> Then it might the the latency of you and the server.
#303 [08:11] <cestislife> Which we can do nothing about.
#304 [08:12] <Sharky> wat is that
#305 [08:12] <cestislife> Latency is essential the time needed for communication between your client and the server
#306 [08:12] <cestislife> If it's too long, Minecraft will kick you out of the server.
#307 [08:12] <cestislife> essentially*
#308 [08:13] <Sharky> i went on my brothers acount on the same computer and sever and it was fine then i was on my acount and it messed up
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#310 [08:13] <cestislife> The account has nothing to do with connection issues.
#311 [08:14] <Sharky> ok
#312 [08:14] <Sharky> so wat should i do to fix it
#313 [08:14] <cestislife> I do not know.
#314 [08:15] <Sharky> ok
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#327 [09:06] <JMEL2012> quick question, is there a way to make a single-player map downloadable for a server?
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#329 [09:08] <JMEL2012> quick question, is there a way to make a single-player map downloadable for a server?
#330 [09:09] <JMEL2012> anyone?
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#333 [09:32] <Shahiem99> Guys my friend get shutdown when he start Mc any conculusions? - http://pastie.org/6079530
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#336 [09:38] <Shahiem99> Guys my friend get shutdown when he start Mc any conculusions? - http://pastie.org/6079530
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#342 [09:53] <Shahiem99> Guys my friend get shutdown when he start Mc any conculusions? - http://pastie.org/6079530
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#346 [10:14] <daguayo> i'm trying to redeem a prepaid minecraft card and when i click to recieve a confirmation email the page says was sent but i
#347 [10:15] <daguayo> went to my email and i dont see the emial in my account
#348 [10:15] <daguayo> could you please help me on this
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#359 [10:28] <xXBlutaarXx> is there an easy way to keep track of Mod updates?
#360 [10:28] <xXBlutaarXx> is there an easy way to keep track of Mod updates?
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#369 [11:17] <Diego02cz> Hello, sorry for my english, i am not good. I bought Minecraft from official website - www.minecraft.net and i didnt receive any email. My game also isnt activated. What with it?
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#376 [11:32] <Razeren77> Hi I cant change my e-mail address the one thats registred on minecraft does not exist any more what do I do?
#377 [11:33] <Razeren77> When i tru to change it says that the e-mail isent vallid
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#379 [11:35] <boom> There is no game sound when i open the game. suggestions?
#380 [11:35] <Razeren77> My sons profile has ben hacked so i need to change the password on that e-mail
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#382 [11:36] <boom> anyone on here helping today?
#383 [11:37] <boom> anyone on here at all?
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#386 [11:41] <Blundey> hi all, wonder if there is anyone here available to help?
#387 [11:41] <Blundey> probably dead simple
#388 [11:41] <Blundey> oh nevermind read the title
#389 [11:43] <Blundey> and nevermind about the question either, found my answer :)
#390 [11:43] <Blundey> you guys rock!
#391 [11:44] <Calinou> heh
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#394 [11:48] <ScottyT> Hey guys. I cant play minecraft on my MBP 13" :( Here's the crash log:
#395 [11:48] <ScottyT> -- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.4.7 Operating System: Mac OS X (x86_64) version 10.8.2 Java Version: 1.7.0_13, Oracle Corporation Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation Memory: 972698560 bytes (927 MB) / 1029046272 bytes (981 MB) up to 1029046272 bytes (981 MB) JVM Flags: 3 total; -Xbootclasspath/a:/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plu
#396 [11:49] <ScottyT> Getting errors in the OpenGL portion and the Vec3 Pool Size portions, saying ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
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#403 [12:06] <devin_> hi
#404 [12:06] <devin_> my account is not working and i need some quistions
#405 [12:07] <devin_> hello
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#408 [12:10] <dabby182> hi just wondering if you can help me im having problems trying to play minecraft on my laptop it works fine on my pc
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#410 [12:10] <devin_> hi
#411 [12:10] <dabby182> hi
#412 [12:10] <devin_> i need help with my name and password
#413 [12:11] <devin_> hello
#414 [12:11] <dabby182> is anybody there who can help me
#415 [12:11] <devin_> not me but can you see my writing
#416 [12:12] <dabby182> yeh i can
#417 [12:12] <devin_> wtf i need to talk to someone i paid 30$
#418 [12:12] <dabby182> whats wrong with your minecraft ?
#419 [12:13] <devin_> i changed my password cuase my brother kept on going on it and idk remeber my yahoo account to verify my password to change it so omg
#420 [12:13] <dabby182> can you not change your yahoo account password
#421 [12:14] <devin_> i cant even go in it
#422 [12:14] <devin_> whats rong with youres
#423 [12:15] <dabby182> i cant get my java to run the game it works fine on my pc just not my laptop
#424 [12:15] <devin_> what laptop you have?
#425 [12:15] <devin_> im kinda a computer person
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#427 [12:16] <dabby182> same here but i got a free laptop so i was going to play it on there
#428 [12:16] <devin_> oh
#429 [12:16] <nickkissimo> hello to all there :-)
#430 [12:16] <devin_> hi
#431 [12:16] <devin_> can u help us
#432 [12:16] <nickkissimo> i'm looking for a help too :-/
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#434 [12:16] <nickkissimo> :-)
#435 [12:17] <dabby182> lol so are we
#436 [12:17] <devin_> yea where is everone to help people this is rediculus
#437 [12:17] <nickkissimo> ehehehe s happens :-)
#438 [12:17] <devin_> naaa im mad
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#440 [12:17] <devin_> why u here
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#442 [12:18] <nickkissimo> i'm going crazy to play minecraft with my mac mini but i can't see de demo on the main page...
#443 [12:18] <Necrodoom> i can try help, but not much idea about what is needed
#444 [12:18] <devin_> you have a mini you have to go to the app store
#445 [12:19] <nickkissimo> and there what i've to search?
#446 [12:19] <nickkissimo> controller companion?
#447 [12:19] <devin_> minecraft
#448 [12:19] <nickkissimo> minecraft in the app store? is the same version of the ipad or iphone?
#449 [12:19] <devin_> same as both
#450 [12:20] <nickkissimo> or is the computer version?
#451 [12:20] <devin_> its not like the computer version you have to have a computer to go on the pc mineraft
#452 [12:20] <nickkissimo> i have a computer
#453 [12:20] <devin_> you have to buy
#454 [12:20] <devin_> it
#455 [12:21] <nickkissimo> Mac Mini is a computer isnt a iDevice :-)
#456 [12:21] <nickkissimo> :-)
#457 [12:21] <devin_> oh so then you probaly have to buy it
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#459 [12:21] <nickkissimo> but in the main page is writed "before to buy it , check if you can play the demo"
#460 [12:22] <devin_> yea go aheada
#461 [12:22] <devin_> dabby
#462 [12:22] <dabby182> yeh
#463 [12:22] <devin_> this is rediculus what are we aposyt to do
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#465 [12:23] <dabby182> i have no idea
#466 [12:23] <dabby182> i thought this was the help channel
#467 [12:23] <devin_> i thought
#468 [12:23] <nickkissimo> me too
#469 [12:23] <nickkissimo> me too
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#471 [12:23] <devin_> but ie need a minecraft worker
#472 [12:23] <dabby182> me to
#473 [12:23] <nickkissimo> micecraft help is the name of the channel
#474 [12:23] <devin_> yeaaa
#475 [12:23] <nickkissimo> ninecraft...
#476 [12:24] <nickkissimo> ahahah micecraft :-)
#477 [12:24] <devin_> lol
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#482 [12:25] <nickkissimo> maybe we have to look the messages when we enter in this room (the bot messages)
#483 [12:25] <nickkissimo> no...
#484 [12:26] <nickkissimo> a lot of people here... someone can help?
#485 [12:26] * Lutzee sighs
#485 [12:26] <Lutzee> We are volenteers, what is the problem?
#486 [12:27] <nickkissimo> i've a Mac Mini, but i cant see the demo on the minecraft site... (thank for the interest) :-)
#487 [12:27] <Lutzee> ?? demo
#488 [12:27] <VoxelHead> demo: You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#489 [12:28] <nickkissimo> ah
#490 [12:28] <nickkissimo> then i've found somewhere the demo to play it
#491 [12:28] <nickkissimo> and works
#492 [12:28] <nickkissimo> but
#493 [12:29] <nickkissimo> i wish to use the apposite xbox controller to play it
#494 [12:30] <Lutzee> That will not work with the demo version, and the full version will require third party programs to support it
#495 [12:30] <nickkissimo> i've already done 4 or 5 tutorials to make it but... nothing
#496 [12:30] <nickkissimo> like minecontrol or controller companion
#497 [12:30] <nickkissimo> right?
#498 [12:30] <nickkissimo> :-)
#499 [12:30] <Lutzee> Not a clue
#500 [12:31] <nickkissimo> i've installed the drivers to make the controller work like a mouse
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#502 [12:32] <nickkissimo> but in the game i can't look around without using the mouse
#503 [12:32] <Lutzee> nickkissimo: We can't provide support for that unfortunately, its out of our line of expertise
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#505 [12:32] <webrosc> hey guys, i just found a typo i think on a help.mojang page
#506 [12:33] <Lutzee> webrosc: where?
#507 [12:33] <webrosc> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- it says backlog is jan 2012
#508 [12:33] <webrosc> should be 2013?
#509 [12:33] <Lutzee> haha yeah
#510 [12:33] <Lutzee> I'll poke marc about that
#511 [12:33] <webrosc> ta, i was just linking the page and saw it
#512 [12:34] * nickkissimo says bye and will leave :-)
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#513 [12:35] <Necrodoom> or mojang simply realized they havent actually answered any tickets yet, and started over
#514 [12:36] <Calinou> first person game with a joystick? is this guy serious?
#515 [12:36] <Calinou> erm I mean
#516 [12:36] <Calinou> any game with a joystick? is this guy serious?
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#518 [12:38] <KnightofCreepers> Upon logging into minecraft I get a black screen after seeing the Mojang logo. i have tried forcing updates and that has not helped. Also, I reviewed my host file to ensure that there was no minecraft or Amazon line text. What can I do from here?
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#521 [12:40] <KnightofCreepers> I should add that I have been able to play Minecraft for the past several months.
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#525 [12:47] <KnightofCreepers> Not to sound impatient or rude, but is there a person(s) in here that is responding to questions? I do not see any other threads of communication so I am not sure if there is anyone monitoring questions.
#526 [12:47] <H4nSolo> hiho
#527 [12:47] <H4nSolo> i need german support
#528 [12:49] <KnightofCreepers> @Eddie Am I using the proper format for Minecraft support?
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#530 [12:51] <H4nSolo> i want to buy minecraft about paypal but paypal doenst cmplete them....
#531 [12:51] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, we all do this as a side thing. some of us may be bussy
#532 [12:51] <KnightofCreepers> Thank you for the response. I just wanted to ensure that there was someone working on assistance.
#533 [12:52] <worldmc> H4nSolo, look at this. its the same reason for buying a real mc account http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/434710-can-i-use-paypal-to-buy-a-gift-code-
#534 [12:53] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, can you provide a crashlog ? in pastebin please
#535 [12:53] <KnightofCreepers> Just a second and i will retrieve it
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#537 [12:54] <H4nSolo> lol i haven´t a creditcard... and ELV doenst worl too
#538 [12:55] <H4nSolo> worl => worlk
#539 [12:55] <H4nSolo> eh work
#540 [12:55] <H4nSolo> ^^
#541 [12:56] <worldmc> if you have no way of buying it i suggest asking someone that can buy it for you. you just pay the person normally
#542 [12:57] <KnightofCreepers> I have the crash report. Forgive me, but I do not understand what you mean by a 'paste bin'.
#543 [13:02] <worldmc> ??> KnightofCreepers pastebin
#544 [13:02] <VoxelHead> KnightofCreepers: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#545 [13:02] <worldmc> open the crashlog and copy all the text in the window at pastebin.com
#546 [13:02] <KnightofCreepers> Thank you...doing it now.
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#550 [13:04] <schoutentl> Have an issue with Minecraft Client on OSX just crashes. Have a crash log available.
#551 [13:05] <worldmc> schoutentl, can you copy the contents of the crashlog to pastebin?
#552 [13:06] <KnightofCreepers> Here is the URL for the report... http://pastebin.com/3QD8bVCm
#553 [13:06] <schoutentl> never used pastebin would gladly do so just point me in the right direction
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#556 [13:08] <schoutentl> Alright
#557 [13:08] <schoutentl> done
#558 [13:08] <schoutentl> schoutentlOSX is the title of it
#559 [13:08] <schoutentl> http://pastebin.com/0nNKZvdJ
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#561 [13:13] <prominax> hey
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#563 [13:13] <worldmc> gimme a sec guys
#564 [13:13] <prominax> i can connect to the minecraft.net
#565 [13:14] <worldmc> schoutentl, try updating your drivers
#566 [13:14] <prominax> i tried to reboot the internet the pc and the firewall
#567 [13:14] <prominax> and not work (
#568 [13:14] <prominax> my drivers are update
#569 [13:15] <prominax> d
#570 [13:15] <prominax> ???
#571 [13:15] <schoutentl> could have sworn they were up to date
#572 [13:15] <schoutentl> will check
#573 [13:15] <worldmc> ??> prominax win/hosts
#574 [13:15] <VoxelHead> prominax: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#575 [13:16] <VoxelHead> prominax: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#576 [13:16] <schoutentl> Thanks will look into the driver issue
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#578 [13:16] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, you aswell make sure that your drivers are up to date.
#579 [13:17] <prominax> yes they a re update
#580 [13:17] <prominax> im sure
#581 [13:17] <KnightofCreepers> I will check them now. Thanks for the help.
#582 [13:17] <prominax> :(
#583 [13:17] <prominax> 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself. # 127.0.0.1 localhost # ::1 localhost
#584 [13:18] <worldmc> prominax never do that again this is how you should post things in here
#585 [13:18] <prominax> ?
#586 [13:18] <worldmc> ??> prominax pastebin
#587 [13:18] <VoxelHead> prominax: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#588 [13:19] <prominax> http://pastebin.com/E8fHE7HT
#589 [13:19] <prominax> is that http://pastebin.com/E8fHE7HT ??
#590 [13:20] <prominax> ...
#591 [13:21] <worldmc> i dotn see minecraft in there. can you log in at minecraft.net ?
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#593 [13:21] <prominax> no
#594 [13:22] <prominax> no i cant
#595 [13:22] <worldmc> what error does it give?
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#597 [13:22] <prominax> CANT CONNECT TO MINECRAFT.NET
#598 [13:23] <prominax> like
#599 [13:23] <worldmc> i was talking about the web version of minecraft.net . can you log in there ?
#600 [13:23] <prominax> i go to the progame i poen i write my name and aftrer the login i appears cant connect to minecraft
#601 [13:23] <Fowly22> Hello. I have a save, when I open it, you see one second the world, then you see "shouting down internal server" and it opens this error report: Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception while adding particle A full error report has been saved to C:\Users\Julian\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-02-06_19.04.53-clien
#602 [13:23] <prominax> yes
#603 [13:24] <worldmc> fowly nixt time use ??< pastebin
#604 [13:24] <worldmc> *next
#605 [13:24] <prominax> ..
#606 [13:24] * worldmc is now known as worldmc|brb
#607 [13:25] <prominax> so?
#608 [13:25] <Fowly22> Generated 06.02.13 19:04 -- Head -- Stacktrace: at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.ColorMap.colorize(ColorMap.java:74) at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.Colorizer.colorizeBiome(Colorizer.java:191) at azz.<init>(SourceFile:11) at bav.b(RenderGlobal.java:1935) -- Particle being added -- Details: Name: suspended Position: -315,18,4,55,1108,24 - World: (-316,4,1108), Chunk: (at 4,0,4 in -20,69; contains blocks -320,0,1104 to -305,255,1119), Reg
#609 [13:25] <prominax> -.-
#610 [13:26] <Fowly22> -- Affected level -- Details: Level name: MpServer All players: 1 total; [ays['Fowly22'/2, l='MpServer', x=-318,42, y=5,62, z=1117,48]] Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 130 Level seed: 0 Level generator: ID 01 - flat, ver 0. Features enabled: false Level generator options: Level spawn location: World: (462,4,1032), Chunk: (at 14,0,8 in 28,64; contains blocks 448,0,1024 to 463,255,1039), Region: (0,2; contains chunks 0,64 to 31
#611 [13:26] <prominax> aff world
#612 [13:26] <Fowly22> how can i posat the whole report?
#613 [13:27] <prominax> worlddmc afk?
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#615 [13:27] <prominax> why i cant connect to minecraft :((((((((((((((((88
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#618 [13:30] <Fowly22> My Error Report is there: http://sapz.de/error_report.txt !
#619 [13:31] <Fowly22> Can someone help me?
#620 [13:31] * worldmc|brb is now known as worldmc
#621 [13:31] <worldmc> ??> prominax patience
#622 [13:31] <VoxelHead> prominax: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#623 [13:31] <VoxelHead> prominax: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#624 [13:33] <worldmc> prominax what antivirus do you have?
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#626 [13:34] <worldmc> flowly have you tried making a new world yet?
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#628 [13:41] <Fowly22> no
#629 [13:41] <lynn> Hi, I'm having a problem with connecting to my world. You see.. My sister wants to come to my world & help me with some random stuff, but my server won't allow her. Or will it allow me to go to her world. Help?
#630 [13:42] <lynn> does anyone have any suggestions that may help?
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#632 [13:43] <lynn> is anyone here?
#633 [13:43] <Fowly22> I created a new world and got the same problem after 5 seconds
#634 [13:43] <Fowly22> (@ worldmc)
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#637 [13:46] <lynn_> So... I went to my java settings to see if I could switch the settings to unblock or allow the program to connect. But.. I didn't find anything related.
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#639 [13:46] <worldmc> fowly uninstall the mods
#640 [13:47] <lynn_> what are mods?
#641 [13:47] <lynn_> oh.. sorry, that wasn't to me
#642 [13:47] <worldmc> lynn that want for you yeah
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#644 [13:48] <worldmc> lynn_, are you and your sister on the same network?
#645 [13:48] <lynn_> yes, we are
#646 [13:49] <worldmc> did you do open to lan while in the world ?
#647 [13:50] <lynn_> When I tried to open LAN connection, the first time.. My java popped up & said that .. something... in my settings was preventing me. It said that it was blocking certain actions. or something like that.
#648 [13:50] <lynn_> & yes, i opened it while in my world
#649 [13:50] <lynn_> brb
#650 [13:53] <lynn_> okay back
#651 [13:53] <lynn_> so do you have an idea of what my problem could be?
#652 [13:55] <worldmc> did you folow the stuff taht java told you about?
#653 [13:55] <Fowly22> Thanks, worldmc, it did function!
#654 [13:55] <lynn_> what do you mean?
#655 [13:56] <lynn_> It didn't tell me to follow anything. it just said that it was preventing me from this action, then that was it. I clicked "unblock" but it's still blocking me
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#657 [13:56] <worldmc> never heard of java blocking it. i can suggest restarting pc
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#659 [13:57] <morgan_> minecraft has crashed. i hv brand new macbook pro. i downloaded java and made the security changes to all from everywhere. what is wrong an how do i fix it?
#660 [13:58] <lynn_> I know.. it's weird. My sister & her fiance connect to each other's worlds often, but my computer seems to be blocking this action.
#661 [13:58] <mattym> morgan_: Can you provide us with the crash report via pastebin
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#663 [13:58] <Dev> my minecraft in-game cheats aren't working for some reason and i've tried looking through youtube tutorials how to fix thsi however have had no progress. how could i fix this?
#664 [13:59] <mattym> Dev: Did you enable them when you created the world/map?
#665 [13:59] <morgan_> thanks mattym. i'm sure i can if you tell me what the paste bin is. r u asking me just to copy the crash report and paste it here in this chat?
#666 [13:59] <Dev> yes
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#668 [13:59] <mattym> morgan_: no wait 1 sec
#669 [13:59] <mattym> ??> morgan_ pastebin
#670 [13:59] <VoxelHead> morgan_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#671 [13:59] <mattym> morgan_: follow those instructions
#672 [14:00] <mattym> Dev: What cheat isnt working, is the game giving you an in game message usually in red?
#673 [14:01] <Dev> yeah. i'm using different cheats including WorldEdit commands which i have succesfully installed as i have used it before however it doesn't seem to want to work
#674 [14:01] <mattym> Dev: Those are mod related, we dont support that stuff here
#675 [14:02] <Dev> however its not just mod related though, its allso game cheats such as change time of day
#676 [14:02] <mattym> Worldedit happens to override the standard stuff, so it is mod related
#677 [14:04] <Dev> but i've seen other users use worledit and standarrd cheats at the same time and they work fine
#678 [14:04] <KnightofCreepers> <worldmc> I have manually updated all of my drivers. I found about five of them that installed updated software. I am still not able to play Minecraft in my browser though. After the Mojang logo appears during the load up screen, everything freezes with a white screen. I am pasting my bin report from the error message I received... http://pastebin.com/nC2f8aEM
#679 [14:04] <morgan_> i pasted and submitted
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#681 [14:04] <morgan_> http://pastebin.com/SihqtDNR
#682 [14:04] <morgan_> That's the url
#683 [14:05] <Lutzee> ?? error/jawt
#684 [14:05] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, can you play the normal client via exe ?
#685 [14:05] <VoxelHead> error/jawt: If you're getting a Java crash referencing a JAWT interface exception, it may be an issue with one of the libraries Minecraft uses. http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php?topic=4326.0 has a lot of analysis of this problem. A similar thread which indicates a fix may be available soon can be seen here: http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.120.html
#686 [14:05] <morgan_> mattym - making sure you're still there
#687 [14:05] <mattym> morgan_: follow the links that Voxel just linked
#688 [14:06] <worldmc> lutzee i gues that that was pointed to KnightofCreepers ?
#689 [14:06] <lynn_> Hello, is there anyone here that can help me fix my Java settings? It is blocking me from going to another world or allowing anyone to come to mine.
#690 [14:06] <Lutzee> worldmc: no morgan_
#691 [14:07] <morgan_> oh man - too complicated for me
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#694 [14:08] <lynn_> Well, if y'all can't help.. Can y'all direct me in the path that may?
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#696 [14:09] <worldmc> lynn i suggest stick here and ask at a another time some other people may be around that know of java a bit more
#697 [14:09] <mattym> lynn_: you problem is that another person on your network cant connect to your lan game, correct?
#698 [14:10] <lynn_> Mattym: yes, that's correct. Nor can I connect to their Lan world
#699 [14:11] <mattym> ok good, that sounds like it may be something to do with your network itself
#700 [14:11] <lynn_> Well, my sister & her fiance are able to connect to each other's world, & they share the same network
#701 [14:12] <mattym> so if one of them is hosting, they can connect but only you cannot?
#702 [14:12] <cartoonartist13> mkay so the problem is, we cant connect our lan game.. and im wondering if we're doing it right.. i think we both have the updated versions of the game..
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#704 [14:12] <lynn_> yes, that's correct. They both can connect with ease, but my java settings are blocking this action for just me. or anyone trying to connect to me.
#705 [14:13] <mattym> and when the java popup shows, you are selecting the option to permanently unblock
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#707 [14:13] <cartoonartist13> um she tried to set up a lan first... she was in her world and went to the menu to open the lan but i wasnt able to join her
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#710 [14:14] <mattym> lynn_ and cartoonartist13 are you talking about the same issue or just 2 different cases of the same problem?
#711 [14:15] <cartoonartist13> im Lynn_'s sister
#712 [14:15] <mattym> ok, i was confused for a second
#713 [14:15] <cartoonartist13> sorry about that lol
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#716 [14:15] <mattym> do any of you use mods?
#717 [14:16] <cartoonartist13> i dont use mods and i dont think she does
#718 [14:16] <mattym> ok
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#720 [14:16] <cartoonartist13> she doesnt even know what they are xD
#721 [14:17] <KnightofCreepers> I am not able to access any part of Minecraft gameplay at this time.
#722 [14:17] <rymate1234> KnightofCreepers, what's the issue?
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#725 [14:17] <lynn> Sorry, my computer keeps acting up. Yes, I believe we are talking about the same issue. I asked her to join the chatroom in case I was unable to describe the problem correctly
#726 [14:18] <mattym> yeah i got that now, im just thinking about what could be causing the issue
#727 [14:18] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, can you run the launcher form of minecraft?
#728 [14:18] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, can you run the launcher form of minecraft?
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#730 [14:19] <mattym> lynn: Can you see the Lan game in the multiplayer screen? Or does it not even show up
#731 [14:19] <KnightofCreepers> I am able to open my launch program, but it goes to a black screen after the Mojang logo appears as before...frustrating.
#732 [14:19] <lynn> It shows up. It allows me to open a Lan game, it just doesn't allow anyone to join it. & when she opened a lan game, it wouldn't allow me to join hers.
#733 [14:20] <cartoonartist13> is there something we need in order to run the lan and it be successful or we just need the game and a network?
#734 [14:20] <lynn> I was thinking... perhaps you could help me find the java settings that are blocking this action. I already tried, but I don't know how to find them.
#735 [14:20] <mattym> game and the network is normally all you need
#736 [14:20] <cartoonartist13> okay
#737 [14:21] <mattym> normally java itself wont be blocking this, unless you changed a setting before
#738 [14:21] <cartoonartist13> well this is weird then lol
#739 [14:21] <mattym> yeah this is one of those rare cases
#740 [14:21] <cartoonartist13> yeah
#741 [14:21] <lynn> I found the basic java settings in my Control Panel, but not the ones that popped up & told me that the action was being blocked. & no, I didn't change the settings
#742 [14:22] <mattym> lynn: since you "unblocked" it has the that popup shows up again?
#743 [14:22] <mattym> shown*
#744 [14:22] <lynn> no.. that's the problem. If it did, I would be able to find out where it came from, but it just popped up & I read it quickly, then clicked "unblock" I didn't bother finding it's source
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#749 [14:23] <mattym> lynn: thats good tho, it means the setting went through
#750 [14:23] <lynn> that's why I want help finding it again. So any suggestions?
#751 [14:23] <mattym> What i would recommend is that all of you restart your PC at least once to make sure everything is synced up
#752 [14:24] <lynn> Restart? Okay.. I can try that. I'll be back in about 10 minutes.
#753 [14:24] <mattym> cartoonartist13: Please restart as well, just to make sure you are all on the same page
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#755 [14:24] <cartoonartist13> i'll do it in a moment.. im working on something currently lol
#756 [14:25] <mattym> no problem
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#758 [14:28] <jackfiredragon> my minecraft has crashed and i cant play it without crashing again.what do i do?
#759 [14:28] <mattym> jackfiredragon: Please provide us with a crash report via pastebin
#760 [14:28] <mattym> if you dont know what pastebin is let me know
#761 [14:29] <jackfiredragon> http://pastebin.com/embed.php?i=3uARXBd5
#762 [14:29] <mattym> thats the right service
#763 [14:29] <mattym> but i need you to copy the contents of the crash report minecraft generated
#764 [14:30] <cartoonartist13> afk
#765 [14:30] <Lutzee> ??> jackfiredragon mods
#766 [14:30] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#767 [14:30] <VoxelHead> jackfiredragon: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#768 [14:32] <jackfiredragon> http://pastebin.com/m0PFh20n
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#770 [14:32] <lynn> Okay, back
#771 [14:33] <lynn> she's not finished yet though
#772 [14:33] <jackfiredragon> what do i do?
#773 [14:33] <cartoonartist13> mkay back, sorreh... restarting now.. brb~
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#775 [14:34] <mattym> ok lynn let me know when she is
#776 [14:34] <lynn> okay
#777 [14:34] <mattym> jackfiredragon: as the notice just said, we dont handle mod related problems here
#778 [14:35] <jackfiredragon> where do i go then?
#779 [14:35] <jackfiredragon> i dont know wher e a mod chat is.
#780 [14:35] <mattym> you will have to look up the mods you installed and then find out where their developers provide support
#781 [14:36] <jackfiredragon> is it caused by the mods?
#782 [14:36] <mattym> yes
#783 [14:36] <jackfiredragon> ok, thanks
#784 [14:36] <jackfiredragon> bye
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#788 [14:37] <lynn> what's a mod?
#789 [14:37] <mattym> things people add to the game, and also a source of lots of problems
#790 [14:37] <cartoonartist13> mhm
#791 [14:38] <lynn> oh i see..
#792 [14:38] <mattym> anyway not that you are both back online, can you try to connect to each others Lan game again
#793 [14:38] <lynn> alrighty
#794 [14:38] <cartoonartist13> yeah.. that's why i dont use them
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#796 [14:38] <lynn> diana, are you going to try to connect to mine or am I connecting to yours?
#797 [14:39] <lynn> cartoonartist13: ?
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#801 [14:41] <mattym> cartoonartist13: Are you two not in the same room/house?
#802 [14:41] <lynn_> lol. yes, i just went to her room. much easier
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#804 [14:41] <mattym> ok, any luck connecting in either direction
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#806 [14:42] <lynn_> I'm logging in now, & about to open lan world
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#808 [14:42] <cartoonartist13_> had to reload it wasnt showing the text for some reason
#809 [14:42] <lynn_> okay, my Lan world is open
#810 [14:43] <mattym> ok now see if cartoonartist13_ can connect
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#812 [14:43] <cartoonartist13_> yay it worked
#813 [14:43] <cartoonartist13_> xD
#814 [14:44] <cartoonartist13_> to think.. that's all we needed was to restart
#815 [14:44] <mattym> yeah normally it should have worked once lynn_ unblocked it
#816 [14:44] <cartoonartist13_> well thank you very much for the help :)
#817 [14:44] <mattym> but sometime the computer needs a reset for those changes to set in
#818 [14:44] <cartoonartist13_> ah i see
#819 [14:45] <mattym> especially when its network related
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#821 [14:45] <lynn> Woww, thank you so much Mattym, it worked! :)
#822 [14:45] <mattym> glad to help
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#826 [14:46] <cartoonartist13_> (>^-^)> now i can help her with in-game stuffz.. thanks again ^^
#827 [14:47] <mattym> np
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#830 [14:47] <KnightofCreepers> <worldmc> Would it be best to completely uninstall all files related to Minecraft? This is my 11 year olds game and i don't honestly know what he's changed as far as 'In Game Settings' of if he has added any mods. If it was a mod related issue, would it show up in the Error Report?
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#833 [14:49] <mattym> KnightofCreepers: You can do whats called a "forcedupdate"
#834 [14:49] <worldmc> KnightofCreepers, if thats the case that you arent playing and someone else is then yes. look for your .minecraft and delte the mods folder( if there is one) then delete the bin and start the launcher. then issue ??< forceupdate
#835 [14:50] <KnightofCreepers> I have already tried the Force Update and I get the same result as before.
#836 [14:50] <mattym> If the "world" had modded stuff in it, it wont work after a forced update
#837 [14:50] <KnightofCreepers> I will try that and see if that corrects the problem.
#838 [14:53] <mattym> after the forced update, see if you can create a new world and see if that one works
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#840 [14:55] <KnightofCreepers> I do not see a folder labeled as Mods, but there are two folders labeled as minecraftforge-universal and optimine. Would either one of those casue issues?
#841 [14:55] <mattym> if they werent installed properly, yes they can
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#843 [14:55] <KnightofCreepers> I did not see a folder labeled as Bin either
#844 [14:57] <mattym> When you start the game, you use the launcher correct?
#845 [14:57] <KnightofCreepers> Yes, the launcher loads okay.
#846 [14:57] <mattym> ok, please do a forced update, then try to make a new world
#847 [14:58] <mattym> if that load up let me know
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#849 [15:00] <KnightofCreepers> The Force Update does not help. The screen shows the updates processing, the Mojang logo appears, and then the screen goes black. I then have to use the F11 to unlock the screen.
#850 [15:00] <mattym> can you go back to your .minecraft folder for me
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#853 [15:01] <KnightofCreepers> Yes. Give me a few minutes. I am going to Switch Users and log back in under his screen. I have been bouncing back and forth.
#854 [15:02] <mattym> ok
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#859 [15:06] <KnightofCreepers> I am in my Minecraft folder
#860 [15:06] <mattym> ok delete everything except the follwoing:
#861 [15:06] <mattym> saves, screenshots,stats, texturepacks
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#863 [15:08] <mattym> after that, try to start the game again
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#865 [15:11] <KnightofCreepers> Okay...none of those are in the folder and he has multiple Minecraft files in addition to the minecraftforge-universal and optimine
#866 [15:11] <mattym> what operating system are you on?
#867 [15:11] <KnightofCreepers> Vista
#868 [15:12] <mattym> ok in the top of that window where it says what folder your in
#869 [15:12] <mattym> type this %APPDATA%
#870 [15:12] <mattym> including the %'s and in caps
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#872 [15:13] <mattym> do you see a folder called .minecraft
#873 [15:13] <mattym> with the .
#874 [15:14] <KnightofCreepers> That worked...the .minecraft folder was listed in the Roaming folder
#875 [15:15] <mattym> ok
#876 [15:15] <mattym> so inside that .minecraft folder what do you see
#877 [15:16] <pygnyshrew7> I bought the game for a friend and the code isn't working..
#878 [15:16] <KnightofCreepers> bins, resources, saves, screenshots, stats, texturepacks, texturepacks-mp-cache, last login, and options
#879 [15:16] <mattym> pygnyshrew7: Did you buy a gift code, or prepaid?
#880 [15:16] <pygnyshrew7> a gift code
#881 [15:16] <mattym> ok KnightofCreepers delete bin and resources
#882 [15:17] <KnightofCreepers> Okay. Should I delete the multiple miecraft files as well?
#883 [15:17] <mattym> where are those?
#884 [15:18] <KnightofCreepers> Everything is in one folder now...under downloads
#885 [15:18] <mattym> yeah you should probably delete those as well
#886 [15:18] <mattym> pygnyshrew7: Have you checked this site http://help.mojang.com/ for possible help with it?
#887 [15:19] <mattym> KnightofCreepers: IF you delete all of those and the launcher stops working, you may need to redownload the launcher once
#888 [15:20] <KnightofCreepers> Okay...I am going to try to relaunch now.
#889 [15:20] <mattym> ok
#890 [15:20] <pygnyshrew7> yeah I did..
#891 [15:20] <mattym> there isnt much we can do regarding account issues
#892 [15:21] <pygnyshrew7> now the code is saying too many attempts
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#894 [15:21] <mattym> you will need to contact mojangs account support
#895 [15:22] <pygnyshrew7> ok.
#896 [15:22] <mattym> keep in mind tho they are backed up and it may take some time for a response
#897 [15:22] <bangbang1202> i cant get red stone in minecraft PE
#898 [15:22] <KnightofCreepers> I still have the same result. Should I delete the optimine folder and minecraftforge-universal?
#899 [15:22] <pygnyshrew7> Ok thanks
#900 [15:23] <mattym> KnightofCreepers: those really shouldnt be effecting the game if they are in your downloads folder
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#902 [15:23] <mattym> only the stuff in roaming/.minecraft effect the game
#903 [15:23] <mattym> bangbang1202: We really dont deal with Pocked Edition too much
#904 [15:23] <mattym> try the forums, they will probably be able to answer faster
#905 [15:25] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, tried getting a report?
#906 [15:25] <ConnorC> I am having trouble. After I login to my Mohanh account, I go to play in browser. In Updating Minecraft screen, grren dowload bar gets stuck; never makes it all the way to the right. Any suggestions?
#907 [15:26] <mattym> Lord_Ralex: I think worldmc. did a while back
#908 [15:26] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, link?
#909 [15:26] <KnightofCreepers> Should I delete everthing except my Save Folder and download everything again?
#910 [15:26] <Lord_Ralex> not seing one mattym, and hard to figure out the issue w/o it
#911 [15:26] <mattym> Lord_Ralex: I think i was before i logged in
#912 [15:27] <Lord_Ralex> KnightofCreepers, did you ever provide a crash report?
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#914 [15:27] <Lord_Ralex> ConnorC, has it ever worked before?
#915 [15:27] <KnightofCreepers> I have...I'll resend it.
#916 [15:27] <Lord_Ralex> also, it is best to use the launcher ConnorC instead of the browser version
#917 [15:27] <bangbang1202> hello
#918 [15:28] <ConnorC> no it hasn't. not on this pc. it works on other pc's.
#919 [15:28] <Lord_Ralex> ConnorC, use the downloadable launcher instead of the browser version please
#920 [15:28] <mattym> KnightofCreepers: Send the most recent one
#921 [15:28] <Lord_Ralex> it is easier to determine what is happening with it
#922 [15:28] <pygnyshrew7> Do you know if that freeze's after many attempts? If so can't I try it later and maybe it will work, or am I going to have to request a new code?
#923 [15:29] <KnightofCreepers> http://pastebin.com/FGEdYCbr
#924 [15:29] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, yeah, your fixes won't help in that case
#925 [15:29] <KnightofCreepers> I just ran my launcher and used that report as it is the most recent.
#926 [15:29] <Lord_Ralex> ??> KnightofCreepers win/dxdiag
#927 [15:29] <VoxelHead> KnightofCreepers: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#928 [15:29] <VoxelHead> KnightofCreepers: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#930 [15:30] <KnightofCreepers> The URL paste is above
#931 [15:30] <Lord_Ralex> KnightofCreepers, this is a different one we need
#932 [15:30] <Lord_Ralex> please follow the directions by VoxelHead
#933 [15:30] <KnightofCreepers> Okay
#934 [15:31] <pygnyshrew7> Do you know if that code freeze's after many attempts? If so can't I try it later and maybe it will work, or am I going to have to request a new code?
#935 [15:32] <Lord_Ralex> pygnyshrew7, sec, think there is an article on that
#936 [15:32] <Lord_Ralex> pygnyshrew7, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/353966-my-gift-code-does-not-work
#937 [15:33] <pygnyshrew7> ok I will check it out, Thanks
#938 [15:33] <KnightofCreepers> http://pastebin.com/57RwwAM8
#939 [15:34] <Lord_Ralex> ??> KnightofCreepers gpu/intel
#940 [15:34] <VoxelHead> KnightofCreepers: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#941 [15:34] <KnightofCreepers> Going there now...
#942 [15:34] <Lord_Ralex> KnightofCreepers, you need to update your video drivers, that link will provide you the software
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#945 [15:34] <mattym> Those are some of the oldest ive seen yet
#946 [15:34] <Lord_Ralex> or... it does not work....
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#948 [15:35] <Lord_Ralex> KnightofCreepers, see if this works: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_iduu
#949 [15:36] <Lord_Ralex> looks like intel is doing maintence on the download center
#950 [15:38] <mattym> It looks like that computer may have a lot of trouble with minecraft no matter what the driver status is
#951 [15:39] <Lord_Ralex> KnightofCreepers, http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?ProductID=2800&DwnldID=20775&lang=eng&iid=dc_rss should be your driver you need
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#953 [15:39] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, ehh, it may not be great, but it should run it at least
#954 [15:39] <mattym> run yes, but barely
#955 [15:40] <mattym> i have an old laptop with similar stats, and even on the lowest settings its choppy
#956 [15:40] <Lord_Ralex> run it on low settings, should be fine
#957 [15:43] <ConnorC> I resolved my issue. The problem was with the original download. I think it got hungup somehow and PC thought it was complete. Deleted software and reloaded it again. All good now. Thx.
#958 [15:43] <KnightofCreepers> Downloaded the new driver...here we go.
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#960 [15:44] <jasnfg> I have bought the game, but when i click on the download, I can not install.
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#962 [15:45] <mattym> jasnfg: What kind of computer are you on?
#963 [15:45] <jasnfg> PC tower windows 8
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#973 [15:56] <downtreescom> Have new google chrome note book and want to play minecraft
#974 [15:57] <Lutzee> Yeah thats not going to happen with the chrome OS
#975 [15:57] <mattym> Does it work in browser, or does Chrome OS not let u install java?
#976 [15:57] <Lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/920822-minecraft-on-chromebooks
#977 [15:58] <downtreescom> ill try
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#979 [16:05] <downtreescom> It says that it will wipe out roots and you won't be able to reboot
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#981 [16:06] <Lutzee> downtreescom: I advise you don't do anything, and find another PC to play the game on
#982 [16:06] <Lutzee> Chrome books are not made for gaming of any kind
#983 [16:06] <mattym> downtreescom: as the article says, minecraft isnt really meant for Chrome OS, and rooting it is kinda like wasting all the money you spent on the chromebook
#984 [16:06] <Lutzee> and are extremely underpowered because of it
#985 [16:06] <downtreescom> thats what I just told my son
#986 [16:07] <mattucci> i have just bought a prepaid minecraft card and redeemed it, now it says that my username or password or something is not working when trying to login. What should I do?
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#988 [16:08] <downtreescom> well I asked the lady on the phone if i was going to be able to play minecraft on this and she said yes guess that was a lie!
#989 [16:09] <mattym> mattucci: Did you login with your email in the place where it says username
#990 [16:09] <mattucci> yes
#991 [16:10] <mattym> does any of this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/770611 apply to you?
#992 [16:11] <mattucci> no it said I could download the client i'm at the screen to login and it says invalid login
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#995 [16:11] <Lord_Ralex> mattucci, can you log in to http://accounts.mojang.com/me and tell us what it says?
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#999 [16:13] <mattucci> I can login into that it shows that I have minecraft on there and that I can click on the download client for windows/mac/linux
#1000 [16:13] <Lord_Ralex> mattucci, does it show your username?
#1001 [16:13] <mattucci> yes
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#1003 [16:13] <Lord_Ralex> now, what does the launcher say when you try to log in with your email and password?
#1004 [16:14] <Minecraft_Dad> IT wont let me play minecraft it says it crashed
#1005 [16:14] <mattucci> login failed
#1006 [16:14] <mattym> Minecraft_Dad: Can you provide us with the crash report via pastebin
#1007 [16:15] <mattym> ??> Minecraft_Dad pastebin
#1008 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1010 [16:15] <Minecraft_Dad> ya
#1011 [16:15] <Lord_Ralex> mattucci, what username did you choose?
#1012 [16:15] <mattucci> worlds_away_31
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#1014 [16:16] <Lord_Ralex> mattucci, and the account page showed that as your username, correct?
#1015 [16:16] <mattucci> yes right under profile name
#1016 [16:17] <Lord_Ralex> mattucci, can you try to reset the password for your account? and make sure you are using the correct email and password
#1017 [16:18] <mattucci> give me a few minutes
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#1019 [16:19] <Minecraft_Dad> http://pastebin.com/3Uhw79xy
#1020 [16:19] <mattym> Lord_Ralex: can you take a look at that one ^
#1021 [16:20] <Minecraft_Dad> mattym did u like at it
#1022 [16:20] <Lutzee> ??> Minecraft_Dad win/dxdiag
#1023 [16:20] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1024 [16:20] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1025 [16:21] <mattucci> somehow resetting the password worked thank you!
#1026 [16:21] <mattym> yeah they havent exactly got the prepaid card system sorted out yet
#1027 [16:21] <Minecraft_Dad> mattym: I GAVE U THE WED SITE
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#1029 [16:21] <mattym> Minecraft_Dad: follow the other set of instructions that were posted for you
#1030 [16:22] <Minecraft_Dad> OK
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#1032 [16:23] <Minecraft_Dad> did u look at it and see wat heppen y i cant play minecraft
#1033 [16:23] <Minecraft_Dad> happen
#1034 [16:23] <Lord_Ralex> Minecraft_Dad, do what VoxelHead said
#1035 [16:23] <Minecraft_Dad> how
#1036 [16:24] <mattym> ??> Minecraft_Dad win/dxdiag
#1037 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1038 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1039 [16:24] <Minecraft_Dad> wiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
#1040 [16:24] <mattym> Win = the start/windows key
#1041 [16:25] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Minecraft_Dad win/key/image
#1042 [16:25] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Dad: (win/key/image) NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
#1043 [16:25] <Minecraft_Dad> where do i do that
#1044 [16:26] <mattym> hold down the windows key and press R
#1045 [16:26] <Minecraft_Dad> where
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#1048 [16:26] <Lord_Ralex> anywhere
#1049 [16:27] <jams> hey guys, i want to play multiplayer but can't connect with the server from a friend of mine. I also can't find any other servers, like i do not have a connection with the internet
#1050 [16:27] <Minecraft_Dad> where do i push ctrl and alt
#1051 [16:28] <Lord_Ralex> what....
#1052 [16:28] <jams> i'm playing on a mac btw
#1053 [16:29] <mattym> jams: are you trying to connect to a Lan server, or a multiplayer server?
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#1055 [16:30] <jams> the multiplayer option doesn't work, it keeps loading
#1056 [16:30] <jams> searching for lan worlds
#1057 [16:30] <mpdminecraft> I can't seem to download the game onto my computer it locks up and i can't fix it
#1058 [16:30] <jams> and the direct connection gives a time out
#1059 [16:31] <mpdminecraft> i can't run in online mode or on the computer
#1060 [16:31] <mattym> jams: Minecraft doesnt list servers, you have to add them
#1061 [16:32] <mattym> if the direct connect times out, then the server on the other end is not set up correctly
#1062 [16:32] <jams> a friend of mine has made a server and has given me the ip adres of the server to direct connect
#1063 [16:32] <mattym> mpdminecraft: have you ever run it before or are you new to the game?
#1064 [16:32] <jams> but it gives a time out
#1065 [16:32] <mpdminecraft> new to the game
#1066 [16:32] <mattym> did he make a full server, or a lan server jams?
#1067 [16:33] <mattym> mpdminecraft: did you purchase it?
#1068 [16:33] <mpdminecraft> yes at gamestop
#1069 [16:33] <jams> What's the difference?
#1070 [16:33] <mpdminecraft> loaded the code and tried to downed. that is when the trouble started
#1071 [16:33] <mattym> mpdminecraft: are you on a Mac or PC?
#1072 [16:33] <mpdminecraft> sorry download
#1073 [16:33] <mpdminecraft> mac
#1074 [16:34] <mpdminecraft> but new to mac too, don't know how to search for files etc
#1075 [16:34] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, downloading the file from the minecraft.net/download site fails to finish?
#1076 [16:34] <mattym> jams: if its a full server he is running a sepperate file, if its Lan then he just opened the game to Lan, in which case you cannot connect from the outside
#1077 [16:34] <jams> full server it is
#1078 [16:34] <mpdminecraft> u think it finished, just can't get it to start up
#1079 [16:34] <Lord_Ralex> does it give you an error?
#1080 [16:34] <mattym> jams: what is the address he gave you?
#1081 [16:35] <jams> 192.160.1.10
#1082 [16:35] <mattym> and you two are not in the same house correct?
#1083 [16:35] <mpdminecraft> i either get a fatal error if i try to update it and if i skip that it just says "done downloading" and then i can't do anything
#1084 [16:36] <Lord_Ralex> ??> mpdminecraft forceupdate
#1085 [16:36] <VoxelHead> mpdminecraft: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1086 [16:36] <VoxelHead> mpdminecraft: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1087 [16:36] <Lord_Ralex> That will have it try to redownload the files, if it errors, we need to know what the error message is exactly
#1088 [16:36] <mpdminecraft> i will try that thx
#1089 [16:36] <mattym> jams: If you are not on the same network, then that is the wrong type of IP
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#1091 [16:37] <jams> what kind of ip do i need?
#1092 [16:37] <mattym> he needs to give you his external IP, he can find it by going to http://ip-adress.com
#1093 [16:37] <mattym> he needs to give you his external IP, he can find it by going to http://ip-adress.com
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#1095 [16:37] <mattym> he also needs to set up Port Forwarding on his router
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#1097 [16:38] <jams> thanks! i'll tell him!
#1098 [16:38] <Becks> One of my single player servers crashed. Is there any way I can fix it?
#1099 [16:38] <mattym> http://portforward.com will give him instructions, keeping in mind that minecraft uses port 25565 unless you tell it otherwise
#1100 [16:39] <mattym> Becks: do you mean the game crashed?
#1101 [16:39] <Becks> not sure, when i try to load the single player server it won't load and gives me a crash report
#1102 [16:39] <mpdminecraft> still getting a fatal error fatal error occurred (4): null
#1103 [16:39] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, second then
#1104 [16:39] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Becks pastebin
#1105 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Becks: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1106 [16:39] <Lord_Ralex> please do that with the crash report
#1107 [16:40] <Becks> http://pastebin.com/Th5L0hA4
#1108 [16:41] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, do you have aviria installed?
#1109 [16:41] <mpdminecraft> dont know what that is
#1110 [16:41] <Lord_Ralex> it is an antivirus program
#1111 [16:41] <mpdminecraft> it was originally asking me to install java
#1112 [16:42] <mattym> ??> Becks win/dxdiag
#1113 [16:42] <VoxelHead> Becks: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1114 [16:42] <VoxelHead> Becks: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1115 [16:42] <mpdminecraft> i only have what came with my mac. it is relatively new
#1116 [16:42] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, that won't help
#1117 [16:42] <Lord_Ralex> Becks, your world seems to have been corrupted a little
#1118 [16:42] <Lord_Ralex> You can use a tool like MCEdit or Minecraft Region Fixer to try to repair it
#1119 [16:42] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, okay
#1120 [16:43] <Becks> ok, thanks for yor time
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#1122 [16:43] <mpdminecraft> i did check settings and it says my firewall is off. does that help?
#1123 [16:44] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, the error is usually caused by something like an anti-virus blocking the connection
#1124 [16:45] <mattym> Hes on a Mac, is there any chance its gatekeeper acting up?
#1125 [16:45] <mpdminecraft> dont even know how to check and see if i have antivirus better yet, how to turn it off?
#1126 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, no
#1127 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, gatekeeper would just not let it run and give a nice obvious error
#1128 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> mpdminecraft, i don't have a mac so i don't know what it comes with
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#1130 [16:46] <mpdminecraft> im normally a pc person, just switched over.... ugh
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#1135 [16:50] <mattym> Lord_Ralex: do you have the link to the Minecraft and Mac 101 article?
#1136 [16:52] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, does not cover this issue
#1137 [16:52] <mattym> do you have it tho?
#1138 [16:52] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-
#1139 [16:52] <mattym> thanks
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#1144 [16:57] <herobrerick> so, i've been having a problem lately. it's saying that my account isn't premium anymore? any way to fix it?
#1145 [16:57] <mattym> Have you looked at the help topic for that on the Mojang site?
#1146 [16:57] <mattym> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
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#1148 [16:57] <herobrerick> yeah
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#1150 [16:58] <mattym> nothing we can really do, id say try reseting your password
#1151 [16:58] <herobrerick> I didn't made any refunds... it suddenly stated with that...
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#1153 [16:58] <Lord_Ralex> herobrerick, you would have to contact support for that
#1154 [16:59] <herobrerick> I'll look into it. Thanks
#1155 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1156 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> herobrerick: In fact, Mojang have an article that related directly to your situation - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#1157 [17:02] <mattym> he already looked at that one
#1158 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> ahh good
#1159 [17:03] <herobrerick> Thanks. I'm going off.
#1160 [17:03] <herobrerick> Thanks. I'm going off.
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#1163 [17:03] <mattym> Are there many people selling fake accounts?
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#1165 [17:03] <DiskDaemon> There are always people trying to do things like that
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#1167 [17:04] <mattym> havent heard much about it. but from mojangs articles it seems to be a bigger issue than i though
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#1169 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> It's even moved on now to people providing free accounts for multiple people to use, which people then come here to complain about when someone changes the password on an account that hundreds of others may be attempting to use at the same time
#1170 [17:07] <mattym> yeah i figure something along those lines is what they are up to.
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#1176 [17:19] <trent> java wont load
#1177 [17:19] <trent> what do i do
#1178 [17:19] <trent> im trying to play demo
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#1180 [17:20] <trent> hello?
#1181 [17:20] <trent> HELLO???
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#1183 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> trent: There's no need to yell
#1184 [17:21] <trent> sorry it said some one left on me
#1185 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> trent: Yes, people come and go here all the time.
#1186 [17:21] <trent> do you know whit to do
#1187 [17:21] <IpodofGod> Can i get some help with my minecraft crash?
#1188 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> ?? ask
#1189 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1190 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1191 [17:21] <IpodofGod> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT cc32fc2f -------- Full report at: C:\Users\Jimmys Laptop\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-02-06_17.19.59-client.txt Please show that file to Mojang, NOT just this screen! Generated 2/6/13 5:19 PM -- Head -- Stacktrace: at bdf.a(SourceFile:53) at bcd.b(SourceFile:137) at bcd.a(SourceFile:31) at bcd.a(SourceFile:14) -- Entity being rendered -- Details: Entity Type: ItemFra
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#1193 [17:21] <trent> what to do
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#1196 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> ??> IpodofGod pastebin
#1197 [17:22] <VoxelHead> IpodofGod: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1198 [17:22] <IpodofGod> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT cc32fc2f -------- Full report at: C:\Users\Jimmys Laptop\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2013-02-06_17.19.59-client.txt Please show that file to Mojang, NOT just this screen! Generated 2/6/13 5:19 PM -- Head -- Stacktrace: at bdf.a(SourceFile:53) at bcd.b(SourceFile:137) at bcd.a(SourceFile:31) at bcd.a(SourceFile:14) -- Entity being rendered -- Details: Entity Type: ItemFra
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#1200 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Not here!
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#1202 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Please read and follow those instructions from VoxelHead
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#1204 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: And also, please read your own crash report. It says: "Not just this screen" - go and get that text file that your crash report tells you about
#1205 [17:23] <mrsprinkle> hey can some one help me out i just updated to windows 8 and minecraft says bad video card but help wont load
#1206 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> mrsprinkle: We can try
#1207 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> ??> mrsprinkle win/dxdiag
#1208 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mrsprinkle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1209 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mrsprinkle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1210 [17:24] <mrsprinkle> i mean in help the bad video care thing wont do anything
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#1212 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> mrsprinkle: We cana ttempt to find more up to date video card drivers for your computer. Please follow those dxdiag instructions from VoxelHead
#1213 [17:25] <mrsprinkle> now java wont load voxalhead
#1214 [17:25] <mrsprinkle> what do i do
#1215 [17:25] <laughingelf123> does anybody know how to make a nether reactor core on minecraft pc?
#1216 [17:25] <mattym> laughingelf123: Doesnt exist on PC version
#1217 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> mattym: I think he meant Minecraft PE - the pocket edition
#1218 [17:26] <laughingelf123> really? then hhow do i get to the nether?
#1219 [17:26] <mattym> laughingelf123: You build a portal to the nether and actully go into the nether
#1220 [17:26] <laughingelf123> how?
#1221 [17:26] <laughingelf123> srry im a beginner
#1222 [17:26] <mattym> laughingelf123: You are talking about PC right?
#1223 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> laughingelf123: Are you talking about Miencraft PE?
#1224 [17:26] <laughingelf123> yes
#1225 [17:26] <IpodofGod> ok i got to the crash report where do i get help or get looked at?
#1226 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> laughingelf123: Please see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Reactor
#1227 [17:27] <mattym> laughingelf123: go here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal
#1228 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> IpodofGod pastebin
#1229 [17:27] <VoxelHead> IpodofGod: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1230 [17:27] <laughingelf123> thx
#1231 [17:28] <IpodofGod> alright and what do i put the crash report or my whole .minecraft?
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#1233 [17:28] <mattym> IpodofGod: just the contents of the crash report
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#1236 [17:29] <IpodofGod> http://pastebin.com/LsXbRSuh
#1237 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Please reinstall Minecraft so that no mods are installed
#1238 [17:30] <IpodofGod> did i do it right?
#1239 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> ??> IpodofGod win/reinst
#1240 [17:30] <VoxelHead> IpodofGod: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1241 [17:30] <VoxelHead> IpodofGod: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1242 [17:31] <IpodofGod> alright
#1243 [17:31] <scissorfingers> I just bought the game online and downloaded it to find out that it is not able to be opened on my computer... I did the OS X download so I thought maybe I needed to use the Linux one instead but now it won't let me download anything else.
#1244 [17:31] <mattym> scissorfingers: Are you on linux or a Mac?
#1245 [17:31] <scissorfingers> On a mac
#1246 [17:31] <DiskDaemon> scissorfingers: It will definately be the mac download if you are on a mac
#1247 [17:31] <scissorfingers> G5
#1248 [17:32] <mattym> what is the error that it gives you?
#1249 [17:32] <scissorfingers> that this download is not supported
#1250 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> scissorfingers: There can be configuration issues with a mac though, most of which are deal with in this thread http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/
#1251 [17:32] <scissorfingers> OK, I will check out the link. Thank you!
#1252 [17:33] <laughingelf123> how do i make an enchantment table?
#1253 [17:33] <laughingelf123> how do i make an enchantment table?
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#1257 [17:34] <mattym> scissorfingers: make sure you check the "vintage" tabs on that link as you said your are on a G5
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#1259 [17:34] <IpodofGod> alright delted it then re downloaded it
#1260 [17:34] <IpodofGod> deleted*
#1261 [17:35] <IpodofGod> anything else?
#1262 [17:35] <mattym> Try to play again and let us know if it works or not
#1263 [17:35] <mattym> if it crashed again send us the report again via pastebin
#1264 [17:36] <IpodofGod> it crashed but was i supposed to delte my bin?
#1265 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Yes you were
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#1267 [17:37] <IpodofGod> alright one moment....should i keep anything saved textures,servers, etc?
#1268 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: You were supposed to delete everything except for your saves folder
#1269 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: That means no exceptions
#1270 [17:38] <IpodofGod> got it
#1271 [17:38] <NinjaKirby> The floor is now Lava
#1272 [17:38] * NinjaKirby lifted his feet
#1272 [17:42] <NinjaKirby> The floor has ceased to be Lava, you can all return to your normal positions.
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#1283 [17:58] <Guest94977> why cant illinois residents get the game
#1284 [17:58] <kristee> I purchased minecraft two times this morning for my son by accident...then when I went to download it the pc said that we already have the minecraft game???? and we can only have one purchased game at a time. It will not download onto the pc, my son bought "xbox points" after xmas and he can play minecraft on the xbox 360. We are confused, and we overpurchased. help
#1285 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> Guest94977: The state has not agree with Moneybookers yet
#1286 [17:59] <Guest94977> okay when will they or will they ever?
#1287 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> kristee: You may want to contact customer support
#1288 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1289 [17:59] <Guest94977> okay thanks
#1290 [17:59] <kristee> thanks, I will try.
#1291 [17:59] <Lutzee> Guest94977: People have gotten round the problem by saying they were from another state i think..
#1292 [18:00] <Lutzee> Not sure on that one though
#1293 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> Guest94977: info is at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
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#1296 [18:01] <NinjaKirby> ... that's some weird URL Encoding for an Apostrophe, I presume that's all it is.
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#1298 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: It's for a unicode character
#1299 [18:02] <Jistanes> Can someone help me? Suddenly my iron golems are freaking out and attacking me, but I didn't hurt any NPCs! :O is it a glitch or something?
#1300 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon: Enlittening :)
#1301 [18:03] <Jistanes> what? enlittening?
#1302 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> try enlightening
#1303 [18:04] <Jistanes> okay, what is that? :)
#1304 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> It's a word in the English dictionary - look it up :)
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#1306 [18:05] <Jistanes> yeah I know what it means IRL, but like, you mean I should put up a bunch of torches? Cause it wasn't dark or anything.
#1307 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> not at all
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#1309 [18:06] <DiskDaemon> And if your meaning in real life relates to actual light, then your understanding differs from the actual
#1310 [18:07] <Jistanes> yeah okay. can we talk about the iron golems?
#1311 [18:08] <DiskDaemon> You'll have to kill them
#1312 [18:08] <Jistanes> okay, thanks. that's all I needed to know.
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#1315 [18:14] <benjaknakker> can you help me guys I want to open a minecraft server but my friend cannot join we both have the full version
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#1317 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> benjaknakker: Would you like instructions on how to set up a minecraft server?
#1318 [18:14] <benjaknakker> yes please
#1319 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#1321 [18:16] <benjaknakker> how can i put my router on forward for others to connect with my server ??
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#1323 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> benjaknakker: That's covered in the http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_forwarding section
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#1326 [18:17] <Trololo> help
#1327 [18:17] <Trololo> how dows this work?
#1328 [18:17] <DiskDaemon> ?? ask
#1329 [18:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1330 [18:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1331 [18:17] <Trololo> oh i sea now
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#1333 [18:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, Hello, Disk.
#1334 [18:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Trololo: It's an IRC client, basically like a group IM.
#1335 [18:18] <IpodofGod> Hey guys it works now thanks for the help!
#1336 [18:18] <NinjaKirby> You relocated to a body of Water instantaneously.
#1337 [18:18] <Trololo> ok so i went into rage mode and i cant find mine craft cuz i deleted sum thin...
#1338 [18:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Np, Ipod. If you have any more problems, then we're still here to help. :)
#1339 [18:18] <Trololo> help/
#1340 [18:18] <DiskDaemon> ??> Trololo win/reinst
#1341 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Trololo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1342 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Trololo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1343 [18:18] <IpodofGod> umm can i ask what the problem was?
#1344 [18:19] <Trololo> i have a mac
#1345 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> Trololo mac/reinst
#1346 [18:19] <VoxelHead> Trololo: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1347 [18:19] <VoxelHead> Trololo: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1348 [18:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk: I think he deleted Minecraft.(Mac's EXE File extention)
#1349 [18:19] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Being modded is the first suspicioun
#1350 [18:19] <Trololo> ummm...
#1351 [18:19] <Trololo> welll...
#1352 [18:19] <ellis171> i cant dowload minecraft
#1353 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Then he would want to download the mac files from minecraft.net/download once again, and go through with installing it
#1354 [18:20] <IpodofGod> It was a shader mod is that like ****** with the bin or something?
#1355 [18:20] <Trololo> mac linuz or widowz?
#1356 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> IpodofGod: Sorry, we don't deal with mods here
#1357 [18:20] <ellis171> windows
#1358 [18:20] <IpodofGod> ah alright then that was the problem cuzi recently downloaded it
#1359 [18:20] <Trololo> no i cant find minecraft i went into rage mode...
#1360 [18:20] <IpodofGod> anyway thanks for the help cya
#1361 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> Trololo: What would you like to do?
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#1363 [18:21] <Trololo> its not in library. in fact, i cant find library
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#1365 [18:21] <Trololo> i want to delete mine craft den reinstall it...
#1366 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> Trololo: download the mac files from minecraft.net/download once again, and go through with installing it
#1367 [18:21] <ellis171> waste of space
#1368 [18:21] <The_MDE> hi all
#1369 [18:22] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1370 [18:22] <ellis171> you lot i thought this was a help
#1371 [18:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Ellis: Could you please elaborate on your problem?
#1372 [18:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, we are a help channel.
#1373 [18:23] <The_MDE> can someone help me? my minecraft account status is still 'unpaid' (https://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=The_MDE) while it has been paid for quite some time ago
#1374 [18:23] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid The_MDE
#1375 [18:23] <DiskDaemon> The_MDE: YOu may need to contact customer support
#1376 [18:23] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1377 [18:23] <The_MDE> thank you
#1378 [18:23] <CrusaderDeleters> ellis171: You still here?
#1379 [18:24] <The_MDE> yes
#1380 [18:24] <Trololo> uhhh ohhh....
#1381 [18:24] <The_MDE> srry
#1382 [18:24] <ellis171> yes sorry
#1383 [18:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Ellis171: Could you elaborate on the problem?
#1384 [18:24] <Trololo> minecraft is down apparently...
#1385 [18:24] <CrusaderDeleters> !down
#1386 [18:24] <ellis171> i keep getting java not istalled
#1387 [18:24] <DiskDaemon> You can install the 64-bit version of Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1388 [18:24] <Trololo> itz still on logging in
#1389 [18:24] <Lord_Ralex> Trololo, looks up from here
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#1391 [18:26] <Trololo> wat do u meen "looks up?"
#1392 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> It's online.
#1393 [18:26] <Lord_Ralex> <Trololo> minecraft is down apparently..
#1394 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> Trololo: Please don't make us kick you outta here
#1395 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> !login
#1396 [18:26] <Lord_Ralex> so i mean it is up
#1397 [18:26] <Trololo> oh
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#1400 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I wonder... did CZ log me in?
#1401 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
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#1406 [18:31] <Guest80353> i am having a problem i downloaded a map off the internet and it keeps crashing
#1407 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Which map?
#1408 [18:31] <Guest80353> Grand Paridise
#1409 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Where from?
#1410 [18:31] <Trololo> i cant find the library file under /users /(my username)/ (where library
#1411 [18:31] <Trololo> Lshoiuld be
#1412 [18:31] <Guest80353> planet minecraft
#1413 [18:31] <Trololo> *should
#1414 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: URL for the map?
#1415 [18:32] <CrusaderDeleters> gUEST: wHAT os ARE YOU?
#1416 [18:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh god. The caps.
#1417 [18:32] <Guest80353> i m not sure
#1418 [18:32] <cestislife> That looks so weird
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#1420 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: I would like to download that same map that you are having trouble with. How do you propose that I do that?
#1421 [18:33] <Trololo> any1?
#1422 [18:33] <Guest80353> go to planet minecraft and search for the new ones under grand its a cruise ship
#1423 [18:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest: Link please.
#1424 [18:34] <Guest80353> http://www.planetminecraft.com/
#1425 [18:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest, we mean for the map. :)
#1426 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> I would be a shame if the one we downlaod and successfully test, is different from the one that you downloaded.
#1427 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> That is why we insist on getting a link from you
#1428 [18:34] <Guest80353> http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/grand-paradise/
#1429 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> THank you
#1430 [18:35] <Trololo> ok how do i delete a mod?
#1431 [18:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Trololo: Force update.
#1432 [18:35] <Guest80353> the spawn is on the bow
#1433 [18:35] <Trololo> ty
#1434 [18:35] <Guest80353> its 433 meters long
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#1436 [18:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest: And you're trying to download this map?
#1437 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: When doe the trouble happen? What can you tell us about the crashes that you have. What trouble can we expect?
#1438 [18:36] <Guest80353> i;m just having problems with it
#1439 [18:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Could you elaborate on "Problems"?
#1440 [18:36] <Guest80353> it will crash if you set off more than five tnt
#1441 [18:37] <CrusaderDeleters> That's more of a problem of a computer that cannot handle it. It's not really the map itself.
#1442 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: Where would we go to set off that TNT - is it in the map, or would we have to add it in?
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#1444 [18:37] <Guest80353> i set it off in the atrium
#1445 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: And where in the map was the tnt obtained from?
#1446 [18:38] <Guest80353> creative mod
#1447 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> Guest80353: You are causing your own problems.
#1448 [18:38] <Guest80353> mode*
#1449 [18:38] <Coopster8> can minecraft download onto a chromebook?
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#1451 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> Coopster8: No, the chromebook is not Windows, Linux, or Mac compatible
#1452 [18:39] <Trololo> wen i forse update it sais fatal error occured: /users/(myusername)/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar retriving lwjgl_util.jar 17%
#1453 [18:39] <Guest80353> if you instal the map don't turn the engines it lags alot
#1454 [18:39] <Trololo> help?
#1455 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> Is there anyone in here who knows how to troubleshoot macs, without a 12-guage?
#1456 [18:40] <CrusaderDeleters> 12-guage?
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#1458 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: It's a type fo shotgun
#1459 [18:40] <CrusaderDeleters> *chuckleS*
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#1461 [18:40] <Trololo> please?
#1462 [18:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Unfortunately, I know almost nothing of Macs. :s
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#1465 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> Trololo: Pleeding won't improve our knowledge of systems that we don't know about
#1466 [18:41] <Trololo> oh srry i thought you were just ignoring me sorry
#1467 [18:42] <CrusaderDeleters> We don't like to ignore here.
#1468 [18:42] <CrusaderDeleters> If we simply cannot help, we'd notify you that it is unfortunate that we cannot help.
#1469 [18:42] <Trololo> i no sorry 4 misundrstndg
#1470 [18:42] <CrusaderDeleters> It's kai.
#1471 [18:42] <Guest6862> http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/medieval-city-castle-and-villages-kingdom-of-verona-v2-custom-terrain/ down load this map its my favorite :)
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#1473 [18:43] <CrusaderDeleters> As a Medieval enthusiest: Smexy.
#1474 [18:43] <Trololo> were put map 2 play?
#1475 [18:43] <Trololo> wat file fldr?
#1476 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> In the .minecraft/saves/ folder
#1477 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/.minecraft
#1478 [18:44] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1479 [18:44] <Trololo> i cant find library
#1480 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> I can't help with macs
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#1482 [18:46] <ellis171> thanks i installed jave 64 bit and now ok
#1483 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1484 [18:47] <ellis171> i mean java
#1485 [18:47] * mattym|away is now known as mattym
#1486 [18:47] <Trololo> although i am stuk with mine craft 1.0, at least i still hav the aether mod...
#1487 [18:48] <Trololo> i got a pre downloaded .jar 4 minecraft
#1488 [18:48] * DiskDaemon kicked Trololo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rololo :No illegal stuff here please)
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#1490 [18:49] <Trololo> srry wat i did but wat did i do?
#1491 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> Trololo: The only Minecraft that we help with here is the most recent public release of the game, the version of which is in the channel topic
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#1494 [18:56] <PingedSkydiver> hi my minecraft account is not working because i deleted my email that went to the account and know i cant change my email
#1495 [18:56] <PingedSkydiver> now*
#1496 [18:56] <Lutzee> Remake the email under the same name should work fine
#1497 [18:57] <PingedSkydiver> ok Thanks
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#1499 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> And if all else fails, you can read this article from Mojang http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901432-changing-your-email-address
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#1501 [19:07] <PingedSkydiver> So i dont have the email attach to my minecraft account can you guys change it
#1502 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> PingedSkydiver: We aren't Mojang
#1503 [19:08] <Lord_Ralex> PingedSkydiver, we don't work for mojang
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#1507 [19:14] <jacklol> anyone on?
#1508 [19:15] <jacklol> I have a problem where me or anyone in my family can't connect to any minecraft servers unless it ends in something like :25565
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#1514 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> What the hell mIRC, let me use TAB
#1515 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Oh, he left anyway, doesn't matter.
#1516 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: Turn it off and on again :)
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#1522 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon: Three times right?
#1523 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> Sales Guy Vs Web Dude, heh
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#1525 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> plus once more, just to be sure
#1526 [19:25] <MrTeddybear> what do i do when it says i do not own minecraft when i bought it a while back
#1527 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> inb4 'License' Only
#1528 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> MrTeddybear: read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
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#1530 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> I realised a moment ago that it was a Biological Interface Error, Disky
#1531 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> I was trying to Tab his name, but at that time I didn't realise he'd departed.
#1532 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, if only we could remove the biology from coputing
#1533 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> lol, I'm trying to picture in my mind a "Biolgical USB Adapter", in a weird way
#1534 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> Spelled correctly, of course -_-
#1535 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> I guess really that's like the... Emotiv? I think it's called
#1536 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> The Brain-operated neuro headset thingy
#1537 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if that's gone on sale yet, or still sorta beta stages.
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#1539 [19:33] <diode> I am having trouble with port fowarding
#1540 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Do you want detailed instructions on seetting up a minecraft server?
#1541 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_forwarding
#1542 [19:37] <diode> can you test to see if you can see my server
#1543 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1544 [19:39] <NinjaKirby> There's a "!check" function in this channel, if you have your Public IP handy
#1545 [19:39] <diode> 108.28.162.32
#1546 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> !check 108.28.162.32
#1547 [19:40] <diode> hmm
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#1549 [19:41] <diode> !check 192.168.1.9
#1550 [19:41] <Lord_Ralex> that is an internal ip
#1551 [19:41] <Lord_Ralex> you cannot use the bot to check that
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#1553 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> diode: Internal IPs can only be seen by computers that are also internal to that network too
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#1556 [19:43] <DFRESH> Wondering if you all may be able to provide some advice. Just purchased the PC version for windows, it all seems to work with the exception of the dig feature---clicking the left mouse button doesn't do anything.
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#1558 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> ?? dontclick
#1559 [19:44] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#1560 [19:44] <DFRESH> Ok, will go back and try that----
#1561 [19:45] <DFRESH> That blows----tried just holding down the left mouse button but no dice---still no digging
#1562 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> hrm - in the game options, what is the Attack one set to?
#1563 [19:46] <mattym> DFRESH: does your characters arm move?
#1564 [19:46] <DFRESH> Let me see--brb
#1565 [19:46] <diode> !check 108.28.162.32
#1566 [19:47] <DFRESH> When I move the mouse up and down the stick he is carrying moves up and down---
#1567 [19:48] <mattym> When you press the left mouse button does it wave, and like Disk said, in your control options what is "Attack" set to
#1568 [19:48] <diode> !check 108.28.162.32
#1569 [19:49] <DFRESH> @ mattym---let me check the "Attack" settings----when I press the left mouse button it doesn't wave
#1570 [19:51] <DFRESH> I'm a virgin---where are the "Attack" settings---looked under options--do not see that as a selection
#1571 [19:51] <mattym> under options select controls
#1572 [19:53] <DFRESH> Ok, it shows it at "Button 1"
#1573 [19:53] <diode> !check 108.28.162.32
#1574 [19:53] <mattym> Then that should be the left mouse button
#1575 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> That seems, right, but just to be sure, click on that button and assign the left button to it
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#1577 [19:53] <DFRESH> Mattym-----do I just type that in?
#1578 [19:54] <mattym> no it should work if you just click it twice
#1579 [19:54] <Guest_> I purchased Minecraft about a year or so ago. I haven't played it in a while and am having trouble logging in. I just now signed up for a Mojang account. Am I able to connect my new Mojang account with my old (paid) Minecraft account?
#1580 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: Yes you are
#1581 [19:55] <Guest_> Great! How do I go about doing this?
#1582 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: Oh hang on, I was answering a different question
#1583 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: Each account is separate - you cannot connect them to each other
#1584 [19:55] <Guest_> Okay. My username and password are not working. How can I go about getting them to work?
#1585 [19:56] <mattym> Guest_: Did you "migrate" your account?
#1586 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> Please login to the account.mojang.com web site and tell me what you see in the My Games section of that page
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#1588 [19:56] <DFRESH> Mattym----when i click on it twice, it shows the following "???" and then defaults back to "Button 1" Doesn't seem to like that
#1589 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> migrating from a minecraft.net account to a mojang.com account is not connecting them together. Instead, it's actually moving your old account to where your new account is
#1590 [19:56] <Guest_> Ah, I see now there is a redeemable code
#1591 [19:56] <Guest_> well, not a code, but rather a link to enter a code
#1592 [19:57] <Drew1701> whats adventure mode???????
#1593 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> DFRESH: It does like that. With ??? it was asking for what you want to use for the Attack action, and when you clicked the mouse button it assigned that button to that action
#1594 [19:57] <mattym> DFRESH: that was the point, now try to dig again
#1595 [19:57] <skymoy> go read the wiki, Drew1701
#1596 [19:57] <Drew1701> OK
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#1598 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> If you still can't dig, then you have at least ruled out the assigned controls from being the cause of the problem
#1599 [19:57] <Kevin> Dixk
#1600 [19:57] <Kevin> Oops
#1601 [19:57] <Drew1701> but that can be hacked and changed
#1602 [19:57] * Kevin is now known as Lukario45
#1603 [19:58] <Guest_> Okay, I found the "migrate" link, but after typing in the incorrect password 3 times I am now unable to try to log in. How long will this take?
#1604 [19:58] <Lukario45> Disk
#1605 [19:58] <skymoy> ...
#1606 [19:58] <Lukario45> Quick Question
#1607 [19:58] <mattym> Its odd that left clicking lets him naviage the menus, but not interact in game
#1608 [19:58] <skymoy> Drew1701: go read the wiki.
#1609 [19:58] <diode> !check 108.28.162.32
#1610 [19:58] <Drew1701> fine
#1611 [19:58] <Lukario45> Is there some sort of Server API i can use to hook
#1612 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: You will need to wait for a while before you can attempt to log in again. I suggest that you make sure that your password is correct by resetting it first, before moving on with that
#1613 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> Lukario45: None that has been published
#1614 [19:59] <DFRESH> Shoot--still can't dig----
#1615 [19:59] <Guest_> okay...
#1616 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> DFRESH: Then it's something else that's causing your problem, but the controls that you have set there.
#1617 [19:59] <Guest_> :|
#1618 [19:59] <skymoy> DiskDaemon: i don't think he's migrated his account
#1619 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> DFRESH: If we can't help any further with your issue, you may need to contact customer support
#1620 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1621 [20:00] <Guest_> Thanks DiskDaemon
#1622 [20:00] <Lukario45> Disk How would i Hook It with NMS Then? any ideas?
#1623 [20:00] <skymoy> NMS?
#1624 [20:00] <mattym> werent there some programs that sometimes caused issues with in game controls?
#1625 [20:00] <Lukario45> !paid chainmetal326
#1626 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> Lukario45: That's outside of the scope of what we deal with here. You may want a dev channel such as #rusicraft for that instead
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#1629 [20:03] <patty> please help with updating minecraft message and it says done loading but frezzes
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#1632 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> Here is how to get a crash report - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1633 [20:04] <patty> what can we do about the screen freezing when updating ?
#1634 [20:04] <diode_> !check 108.28.162.32
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#1636 [20:04] <DFRESH> As a last resort, I tried using several different buttons instead of the mouse to see if I could get some response on the digging. No luck. Will go ahead and contact customer support as directed. Thanks for the help.
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#1638 [20:05] <Armadil_> Hi, I keep setting the 'prefixchat' settings to false in multiverse-core, but it keeps resetting itself to true. Any ideas?
#1639 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> Armadil_: Is that a mod of some kind? What is the multiverse?
#1640 [20:05] <Armadil_> Mutliverse is a Bukkit mod, sorry
#1641 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> Armadil_: Please try the #bukkit channel for help with that
#1642 [20:06] <Armadil_> Thanks
#1643 [20:06] <Armadil_> Thanks
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#1645 [20:08] <diode_> !check 108.28.162.32:25577
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#1648 [20:10] <Na> Hello, just downloaded Minecraft but cannot get the launcher to work, when I try to login it will not connect with minecraft.net, and in red font it says (not downloaded)
#1649 [20:10] <Na> what am i doing wrong?
#1650 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> Please login to the account.mojang.com web site and tell me what you see in the My Games section of that page
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#1653 [20:12] <Na> It tells me that I bought minecraft, today, my profile name, and download client
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#1655 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> Good - the email and password that yuo logged in with, are the same credentials that you must use when logging in with the game launcher
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#1657 [20:14] <Na> so rather than using the name that i chose for the game itself, i use my e-mail?
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#1659 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> Correct - the old minecraft.net accounts sued the username for login with. The newer mojang.com accounts use the email address. The launcher hasn't been updated to reflect that yet
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#1661 [20:17] <sammyx5m> hi... i downloaded minecraft and when i click to open it nothing happens...
#1662 [20:18] <Lukario45> Disk I havent ever logged in with my email.... do i have to now?
#1663 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> sammyx5m: What happens when you attempt to get a crash report?
#1664 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> Lukario45: The username for logging in is only if you have one of the older minecaft.net accounts
#1665 [20:19] <sammyx5m> how do i do that? i tried to run program compatability and it says i need to run the program
#1666 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> sammyx5m: Detailed instructions are at the link that I gave to you
#1667 [20:19] <sammyx5m> then the computer asks me if i want to allow to run it and i say yes and nothing happens
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#1669 [20:20] <sammyx5m> what link?
#1670 [20:20] <Lutzee> DiskDaemon: you missed the link out
#1671 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> gah - here it is http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1672 [20:20] <sammyx5m> oh thank u let me see
#1673 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> The fingers attempt to paste byt the eyes miss the feedback loop of seeing it appear :)
#1674 [20:21] <sammyx5m> do i need to close ie to do so?
#1675 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> sammyx5m: You shouldn't need to
#1676 [20:22] <Na> The launcher still will not connect, but is the launcher what I use to download the game or do I do that through different means?
#1677 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Na: The launcher is used to download the game
#1678 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Na: What details do you have there about why it won't connect?
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#1680 [20:23] <Na> the launcher only says it will not connect. it gives no details
#1681 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> Na: You should be able to get more details from an error report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#1682 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> It doesn't need to crash for the report to be useful in other circumstances
#1683 [20:24] <sammyx5m> it says the system cannot find the path specified
#1684 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> sammyx5m: Then you'll need to install the correct version of Java
#1685 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> You can install the 64-bit version of Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1686 [20:25] <sammyx5m> and then re-dl the minecraft program? or should it run ok once i update java?
#1687 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> sammyx5m: Please carry on with that error report once done with the Java installation
#1688 [20:30] <Na> i do not have the execution privilege necessary to execute this command... can i sudo it?
#1689 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> Na: You are on Linux? Someone else may have to help you with the details of that there
#1690 [20:31] <Na> no unix, well, mac
#1691 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, I'm sorry about that
#1692 [20:31] <Na> lol
#1693 [20:31] <Na> me too, lately
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#1696 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> Na: Were you following the Windows instructions for the crash report, or the OSX ones at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
#1697 [20:32] <Na> osx, the textedit solution
#1698 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Na: How do things go with Method 2?
#1699 [20:35] <Na> that printed a few dozen messages
#1700 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1701 [20:36] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1705 [20:37] <Mitchellmoo2> I cannot break anything on survival mode (gamemode 2)
#1706 [20:38] <Lord_Ralex> survival is 0, adventure is 2
#1707 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Lord_Ralex: The words are allowed now. /gamemode survival
#1708 [20:38] <Mitchellmoo2> I cannot break anything on adventure
#1709 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Mitchellmoo2: Good, that's working according to plan
#1710 [20:38] <Na> http://pastebin.com/qxF2PF3W
#1711 [20:38] <Lord_Ralex> DiskDaemon, i know, but clarifying what 2 was
#1712 [20:39] <Piakchu1211> i just bought my game a couple of weeks ago i created my name made sure password i typed so my game said login failed and it said not downloaded
#1713 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> Na: Thanks, hopefully someone who knows something about macs might be able to help you with that
#1714 [20:40] <Piakchu1211> please answer
#1715 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> Piakchu1211: Please login to the https://account.mojang.com/ web site and tell me what you see in the My Games section of that page
#1716 [20:40] <Piakchu1211> okay one second
#1717 [20:41] <Mitchellmoo2> any reason why my game stopped letting me break anything on adventure? It used to work fine, now my arm only swings once when I hold down the mouse button. I can swing each time I press the mouse once...but never breaks anyhthing like it used to.
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#1719 [20:42] <Na> so now I play the waiting game?
#1720 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Mitchellmoo2: Adventure mode is so that people can adventure through the game without disrupting things in ways that have not been planned for
#1721 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Na: You could also contact customer support about your particular issue
#1722 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> You can contact Mojang's customer support at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1723 [20:42] <skymoy> Na: did you attempt to install a mod?
#1724 [20:42] <Piakchu1211> it dosent show anything
#1725 [20:42] <Mitchellmoo2> I am confused. I used to play on that mode and mine things. Should I be on a different mode. I'm a novist.
#1726 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Piakchu1211: You get no web site page at all?
#1727 [20:43] <Piakchu1211> i have the website on but it dosent show any games
#1728 [20:43] <skymoy> Mitchellmoo2: you're supposed to play on survival if you want to mien things, adventure doesn't let you break blocks
#1729 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Piakchu1211: From what you're telling me, your account has not been paid for.
#1730 [20:44] <Mitchellmoo2> Thank you!
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#1732 [20:44] <skymoy> !paid piakchu1211
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#1734 [20:44] <Lutzee> !paid piakchu1211
#1735 [20:44] <Na> first time playing gamr
#1736 [20:44] <Piakchu1211> it seems that way but i was billed and made a name
#1737 [20:44] <Piakchu1211> yes
#1738 [20:45] <Mitchellmoo2> What is the purpose/function of adventure mode?
#1739 [20:45] <Lutzee> Piakchu1211: What name did you choose?
#1740 [20:45] <Piakchu1211> Pikachu1211
#1741 [20:45] <Lutzee> Adventure mode is so that people can adventure through the game without disrupting things in ways that have not been planned for
#1742 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Piakchu1211: We do not work for Mojang here. You may need to contact them via their customer support
#1743 [20:45] <Na> no mods
#1744 [20:45] <Lutzee> !paid pikachu1211
#1745 [20:45] <skymoy> Mitchellmoo2: for adventure maps
#1746 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> hmm, such variations
#1747 [20:45] <Lutzee> Piakchu1211: You are logging into the launcher with your email and password right?
#1748 [20:45] <Piakchu1211> yes
#1749 [20:46] <Mitchellmoo2> You mean explore areas/maps without mining?
#1750 [20:46] <skymoy> vanilla minecraft does not have any adventure maps to play, however; you can attempt survival in adventure mode, though; but it will be very challenging
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#1753 [20:46] <skymoy> significantly harder than classic superflat survival
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#1755 [20:47] <mattym> skymoy: dont give me crazy ideas
#1756 [20:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes. It is.
#1757 [20:48] <skymoy> mattym: do it!
#1758 [20:48] <Piakchu1211> answer please
#1759 [20:49] <mattym> The only way i see it really working is with a bonus chest, or if i got really lucky with a village
#1760 [20:49] <skymoy> you have to rely on loot from villages, dungeons, strongholds, mineshafts, etc
#1761 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: You can still use tools for what they are designed for
#1762 [20:49] <Piakchu1211> hello
#1763 [20:49] <mattym> CrusaderDeleters: yeah, but you have to find a tool
#1764 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Such as, you can use pickaxes and shovels for their intended use.
#1765 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Exactly. That's the hard part.
#1766 [20:49] <skymoy> or, get a creeper to blow up a tree
#1767 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1768 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> aaaand, my adventure mode attempt is alrady at an end. I fell in to a hole I can't get out of
#1769 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> That... works too.
#1770 [20:50] <skymoy> wood -. crafting table -> resoruces!
#1771 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1772 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, Sky.
#1773 [20:50] <skymoy> DiskDaemon: rofl
#1774 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> But thing is: You'll need a couple creepers
#1775 [20:50] <mattym> crazy ideas
#1776 [20:50] <skymoy> that's the easy part, CrusaderDeleters
#1777 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I wouldn't say that for sure
#1778 [20:50] <skymoy> the hard part is not getting shot to death
#1779 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> At night. Lots of Spiders, Zombies, Skeletons.
#1780 [20:50] <skymoy> or blown up with the tree
#1781 [20:51] <Piakchu1211> help me
#1782 [20:51] <skymoy> spiders are easy enough, zombies swarming is a problem, but not too bad
#1783 [20:51] <skymoy> skeletons, however
#1784 [20:51] <Piakchu1211> njknklkjknj
#1785 [20:51] <Piakchu1211> bionj
#1786 [20:51] <Piakchu1211> bjkbkj
#1787 [20:51] <Piakchu1211> please respond
#1788 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Piak: We don't know what your problem is. Therefore, we cannot help.
#1789 [20:51] <skymoy> Piakchu1211: everything we have says you have not bought the game
#1790 [20:51] <skymoy> if you bought it recently, it will take up to 48 hours for the servers to recognize it
#1791 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh, he was here before his "Hello"
#1792 [20:52] <Piakchu1211> but i have a bill on email
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#1794 [20:52] <skymoy> did you buy it recently?
#1795 [20:52] <skymoy> did you but it from minecraft.net?
#1796 [20:52] <Piakchu1211> yep sunday
#1797 [20:52] <Imvar> Uhhhh
#1798 [20:52] <Imvar> is there a real operator here?
#1799 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Your transaction may not have gone through, Piakchu.
#1800 [20:53] <Imvar> That I can actually talk to...
#1801 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Imvar: Anyone here is useful.
#1802 [20:53] <skymoy> why do you need an operator?
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#1804 [20:53] <skymoy> i'm not even voiced, and i'm useful
#1805 [20:53] <Imvar> Because My computer had to get fixed for the longest time.
#1806 [20:53] <Piakchu1211> it did
#1807 [20:53] <skymoy> if they wiped your disk, you can not get saves back
#1808 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Piak: Did you call the bank and asked them if the transaction went through?
#1809 [20:53] <Imvar> And I can't remember my username or password for my Minecraft account that DOES Have bought premium
#1810 [20:54] <skymoy> ah
#1811 [20:54] <Piakchu1211> no
#1812 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Imvar: If you know the username AND email, you can get your email back.
#1813 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Piak: We suggest you to do that.
#1814 [20:54] <skymoy> go through the forgot/reset password form and you should be good
#1815 [20:54] <Imvar> Well not really
#1816 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp
#1817 [20:54] <Lord_Ralex> Imvar, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329527-forgot-minecraft-username
#1818 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> I mean password*
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#1820 [20:54] <Imvar> Well see my friend gave me this account
#1821 [20:54] <Imvar> He did not tell me the e-mail
#1822 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Ask your friend. :)
#1823 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> And if all else fails, pay for your own account
#1824 [20:55] <Imvar> And I remember the username was like awesome and like 4 numbers attacked to awesome
#1825 [20:55] <Imvar> Attached*
#1826 [20:55] <Imvar> My bad.
#1827 [20:55] <Piakchu1211> no it went through
#1828 [20:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Did the account migrate to mojang.com, Imvar?
#1829 [20:55] <Imvar> Crusader or someone
#1830 [20:55] <skymoy> okay, by "friend" do you mean you got it off a website?
#1831 [20:55] <Imvar> Oh
#1832 [20:55] <Imvar> No
#1833 [20:55] <Imvar> Got it from a friend.
#1834 [20:55] <Imvar> Online.
#1835 [20:56] <Piakchu1211> i see it on my bank account online bill
#1836 [20:56] <Imvar> But he gave me the password and user in chat
#1837 [20:56] <skymoy> you'll need to ask your friend if you don't know the username/password, then
#1838 [20:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Piakchu1211: Then send an email, and wait the approximated time given for email responses.
#1839 [20:56] <Imvar> Well see the thing is he is on Roblox.
#1840 [20:56] <skymoy> Piakchu1211: what suername?
#1841 [20:56] <Imvar> And I think he might have removed me MAYBE
#1842 [20:56] <skymoy> user*
#1843 [20:57] <skymoy> Imvar: then we can not help you
#1844 [20:57] <Imvar> Can you look up the username
#1845 [20:57] <skymoy> uh, no?
#1846 [20:57] <Piakchu1211> huh
#1847 [20:57] <skymoy> we have no information to go on
#1848 [20:57] <Imvar> Ahh ok
#1849 [20:57] <Imvar> Alright
#1850 [20:57] <skymoy> "an account with 4 numbers on it" is about as helpful as "that object in that one direction"
#1851 [20:57] <Imvar> I guess I might have to search through and see if I can find him again
#1852 [20:57] <Imvar> Well
#1853 [20:57] <Imvar> I remember it was awesome(4numbers)
#1854 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Imvar: Best to check to see if your friend is still there.
#1855 [20:58] <mattym> Imvar: The fact is the account isnt yours, so there is nothing anyone can help you with, you need to contact the owner and have them fix it for you or give you the info again
#1856 [20:58] <Imvar> Like awesome70 then two other numbers
#1857 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid Linknzelda123
#1858 [20:58] <Imvar> That is what I am doing.
#1859 [20:58] <skymoy> we can't help, though
#1860 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> If only I had more money...
#1861 [20:58] <Imvar> Yeah
#1862 [20:58] <Imvar> Thanks though guys
#1863 [20:58] <Imvar> Really appreciate you talking to me.
#1864 [20:58] <CrusaderDeleters> We wish we could help more.
#1865 [20:59] <Imvar> It is ok.
#1866 [20:59] <Piakchu1211> bye heres my email incase masonkotylak@
#1867 [20:59] <Imvar> Just have to SEARCH Now.
#1868 [20:59] <CrusaderDeleters> But, as a plenty of others (Not a majority of the people) before you, we are restricted on resources.
#1869 [20:59] <Imvar> Well Bye guys thank you very much!
#1870 [20:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Np. Cya.
#1871 [20:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Np. Cya.
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#1873 [20:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya Pyak.
#1874 [20:59] <Piakchu1211> bye its an icloud email
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#1876 [21:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. Thought you forgot to add the final parts.
#1877 [21:00] <CrusaderDeleters> So... What's the most hardcore mode you guys have done?
#1878 [21:01] <skymoy> hardcore survival before the slime spawn nerf
#1879 [21:01] <skymoy> superflat suvival*
#1880 [21:01] <skymoy> so much slapping
#1881 [21:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech
#1882 [21:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, they finally nerfed that?
#1883 [21:01] <skymoy> yes
#1884 [21:01] <CrusaderDeleters> I wanted to grab nukes. Keep nuking the hell out of them.
#1885 [21:01] <skymoy> and it's a good thing, because the new sound is WORSE
#1886 [21:01] <CrusaderDeleters> There... is also new sound?
#1887 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> It's no longer slapping water?
#1888 [21:02] <skymoy> the little ones do that
#1889 [21:02] <skymoy> the big ones have this fucked up reversed zipping sound
#1890 [21:02] * AuBot kicked skymoy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kymoy :Please keep it civil.)
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#1892 [21:02] <skymoy> i stand by my choice of words
#1893 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Good job. X)
#1894 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Next time, say "screwed up"
#1895 [21:02] <skymoy> it's so grating
#1896 [21:03] <skymoy> no, i needed the word i chose
#1897 [21:03] <skymoy> it's horrible
#1898 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> "/extremely/ screwed up"
#1899 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Eh? No italics?
#1900 [21:03] <skymoy> not enough of an impact
#1901 [21:03] <skymoy> the " got you, i think
#1902 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Is this the latest snapshot?
#1903 [21:03] <cestislife> extremly
#1904 [21:03] <skymoy> . /extremely/ .
#1905 [21:03] <skymoy> yep, the " got you
#1906 [21:03] <skymoy> CrusaderDeleters: no, 1.4.7
#1907 [21:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. I didn't update. :s
#1908 [21:04] <skymoy> it was the same in 1.4.6
#1909 [21:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Really?
#1910 [21:04] <skymoy> i stuck with 1.2.5 until 1.4.6 so i don't know when it was introduced
#1911 [21:05] <skymoy> <3 RP2
#1912 [21:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate RP. :s
#1913 [21:05] <cestislife> why
#1914 [21:05] <cestislife> ;-;
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#1916 [21:05] <skymoy> </3 battery boxes making moving batteries around difficult
#1917 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Only thing I would ever use from it was the Microblocks and the Redstone Gates
#1918 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Everything else just seems like a wannabe of other mods.
#1919 [21:06] <skymoy> the tubes are so much better than buildcraft pipes, though
#1920 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> I'd prefer BC pipes.
#1921 [21:06] <cestislife> To each their own I guess.
#1922 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#1923 [21:06] <skymoy> you prefer random sorting over distance sorting, and color sorting?
#1924 [21:07] <mattym> Buildcraft stuff is "Magic" while RP is realistic
#1925 [21:07] <skymoy> buildcraft's pipes are not magic
#1926 [21:07] <skymoy> they are crap
#1927 [21:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm... Seeing a block go backwards through others is magic.
#1928 [21:07] <CrusaderDeleters> When it hits something, it should stop, not go backwards.
#1929 [21:07] <skymoy> ..?
#1930 [21:07] <CrusaderDeleters> RP Pipes
#1931 [21:08] <skymoy> BC pipes do the same thing
#1932 [21:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I thought BC ejects it onto the ground.
#1933 [21:08] <skymoy> only if there's no more pipe left and no inventory to put it in
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#1935 [21:08] <skymoy> or if you reload the word
#1936 [21:08] <mattym> what always bugged me was the magic lazers that build the quary frames
#1937 [21:08] <skymoy> world*
#1938 [21:09] <skymoy> BC quarries are a bit overpowered
#1939 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Well
#1940 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Not really
#1941 [21:09] <skymoy> and the builder is just broken
#1942 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Are you wanting that people should build the gantries too?
#1943 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Gantries?
#1944 [21:09] <skymoy> the pipe things on it
#1945 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> for the quarries
#1946 [21:10] <mattym> Yeah
#1947 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#1948 [21:10] <skymoy> and that would be better, imo
#1949 [21:10] <skymoy> also, supplying the pipes to go down into the ground, like with IC2
#1950 [21:10] <skymoy> rather than magic infinite depth reach
#1951 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Personally, I like how creative you can be with BC Piping.
#1952 [21:10] <skymoy> and the occasional mining of bedrock
#1953 [21:11] <skymoy> creative?
#1954 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, you can see me as the more creative type when it comes to programs.
#1955 [21:11] <skymoy> creative is a requirement to route things with BC pipes
#1956 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, where you have an entire assortment of pipes to choose from.
#1957 [21:11] <skymoy> or logistics pipes
#1958 [21:11] <Lord_Ralex> you all and your mods
#1959 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1960 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep. <3
#1961 [21:12] * Lord_Ralex still can barely use ic2
#1961 [21:12] <skymoy> diamond pipes are only an option if you can afford it and want a handful of materials to a chest/set of chests
#1962 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Lord: Really? D:
#1963 [21:12] <skymoy> pulling them out is a pain to go through the same tube system
#1964 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Ic2, regular, is the easiest! D:
#1965 [21:12] <Lord_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, only reason why i started with mods was ftb
#1966 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> :s
#1967 [21:12] <Lord_Ralex> and in that, i removed all of them except for ic2
#1968 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Lord, that's gregtech. It's HARD
#1969 [21:12] <skymoy> RP2 makes all that easy. nearest inventory, split evenly between all equal length inventories
#1970 [21:13] <Lord_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, i did not have that installed
#1971 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't like simplicity, too.
#1972 [21:13] <skymoy> sorting machines, colors, transposers, retreivers
#1973 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Lord: Oh.
#1974 [21:13] <Lord_Ralex> again, removed al except ic2
#1975 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Lord: Build a macerator first.
#1976 [21:13] <Lord_Ralex> was running around "what do i do with this .-."?
#1977 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> That's the best thing you could ever get.
#1978 [21:13] <mattym> build 2
#1979 [21:13] <Lord_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, i know
#1980 [21:13] <Lord_Ralex> i got the basic crap down
#1981 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. :P
#1982 [21:14] <skymoy> IC2 is a bit of a crapshoot
#1983 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Crapshoot? ._.
#1984 [21:14] <Lord_Ralex> although ruined my one world cause of a mis-config >_>
#1985 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech
#1986 [21:14] <skymoy> all its machines are for making more of its machines and getting more advanced things and an overflow of resources
#1987 [21:14] <skymoy> but it's very limited
#1988 [21:14] <skymoy> and its crop system is horrible
#1989 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I never used the Crop system. It's actually kinda useless.
#1990 [21:15] <skymoy> useful? absolutely. but horrible, nontheless
#1991 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, what's it used for?
#1992 [21:15] <Lord_Ralex> i never saw reasons to even make farms that large or complex
#1993 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> And sky: EVERYTHING in minecraft's made for getting more resources. Wood: Get stone. Stone: Get iron. Iron: Get diamond. Diamond: Get everything you possibly can.
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#1995 [21:15] <skymoy> brewing beer with hops, but that's a bit pointless. also, you can get free iron dust, gold dust, and redstone dust from the plants
#1996 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I never even made farms.
#1997 [21:15] <Lord_Ralex> i had a 2x2 potato farm
#1998 [21:15] <Lord_Ralex> all i needed
#1999 [21:16] <Mistika2489> I need a bit of help, I've found 6 emeralds already, but not 1 diamond
#2000 [21:16] <cestislife> 2x2?
#2001 [21:16] <skymoy> they grow and drop 0-2 dust; depending on the plant
#2002 [21:16] <cestislife> Like.
#2003 [21:16] <mattym> i would have gone with carrot
#2004 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> I make farms that is ~10 long, 8 wide
#2005 [21:16] <cestislife> 4 potatoes?
#2006 [21:16] <cestislife> ;_;
#2007 [21:16] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, 4 plants
#2008 [21:16] <cestislife> but
#2009 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Mistika: dig down to level 18 or lower.
#2010 [21:16] <cestislife> potatoes
#2011 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> Mistika2489: Go down to level 16 and below for diamonds
#2012 [21:16] <cestislife> ;_;
#2013 [21:16] <Mistika2489> I'm at level 14 already
#2014 [21:16] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, better than 4 wheat stalks
#2015 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Mistika: Then keep digging.
#2016 [21:16] <cestislife> I usually plot the max size of one water block
#2017 [21:16] <skymoy> CrusaderDeleters: aye, but IC2 is separate, it's a bit awkward
#2018 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> At 18 and 17 they're still quite rate, 16 and below are where the largeer amount of them are found
#2019 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Emeralds can be more common than diamond.
#2020 [21:16] <cestislife> like 9x9
#2021 [21:16] <cestislife> i think
#2022 [21:17] <Mistika2489> In mountain biomes?
#2023 [21:17] <Mistika2489> Yea
#2024 [21:17] <skymoy> i have a 9x9 potato and carrot farm
#2025 [21:17] <Mistika2489> I'm starting out a brand new world
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#2027 [21:17] <skymoy> but i had to kill so many zombies to get those
#2028 [21:17] <Mistika2489> Always get a lot of emeralds, no diamonds lol
#2029 [21:17] <skymoy> i play on a tunneler's dream map now :P
#2030 [21:18] <cestislife> skymoy, I made a world where I spawned quite near a village
#2031 [21:18] <cestislife> yay.
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#2033 [21:18] <skymoy> i don't get villages
#2034 [21:18] <Lord_Ralex> cestislife, same, only reason why i have more farms atm
#2035 [21:18] <skymoy> i get emeralds, though
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#2037 [21:18] <Lord_Ralex> is literally the village has 4 >_>
#2038 [21:18] <Lord_Ralex> but no blacksmith
#2039 [21:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: The only reason to make RP Wires, Solar Panel, and Alloy Furnace is to make MORE Wires, Solar Panels, and Alloy furnaces.
#2040 [21:18] <cestislife> no blacksmith?
#2041 [21:18] <cestislife> how
#2042 [21:18] <cestislife> D:
#2043 [21:18] <Lord_Ralex> small village
#2044 [21:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, there's slight use in RP Wires, but still.
#2045 [21:18] <cestislife> The generation needs a little work
#2046 [21:18] <cestislife> though im not sure if the building is like in a mountain or something
#2047 [21:18] <Lord_Ralex> it is in the forest too
#2048 [21:18] <cestislife> oh
#2049 [21:19] <cestislife> Then that's weird.
#2050 [21:19] <Lord_Ralex> right next to a volcano (w/e mod that is)
#2051 [21:19] <mattym> Wires in RP are great if you want to make really complex stuff in a small space
#2052 [21:19] <cestislife> I've had like this whole village under a cliff.
#2053 [21:19] <Mistika2489> It would be cool if there were jungle villages, but it would probably generate really weirdly
#2054 [21:19] <cestislife> Redpower, Lord_Ralex.
#2055 [21:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't use redstone that much.
#2056 [21:19] <skymoy> and once 1.5 comes out, i'm going to the nether (i have 7 lava buckets right now from abandoned mineshafts) to get quarts and blazerods so i can get villagers
#2057 [21:19] <Mistika2489> The redstone update will be awesome mainly for the hoppers
#2058 [21:19] <skymoy> CrusaderDeleters: yes, and to make frame motors
#2059 [21:19] <skymoy> and frames
#2060 [21:20] <skymoy> you can make tunnel bores, 3 dimensional cars, etc.
#2061 [21:20] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't like fram motors and frames. They lagg a lot more than 346873 microblocks.
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#2063 [21:20] <skymoy> lag?
#2064 [21:20] <cestislife> Really depends though.
#2065 [21:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep. They basically clip like crazy.
#2066 [21:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Even on my monster rig.
#2067 [21:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Which actually makes me wanna talk about something.
#2068 [21:20] <skymoy> clipping isn't lag
#2069 [21:20] <CrusaderDeleters> You guys heard of the Ludum Dare/
#2070 [21:21] <skymoy> 40 BC engines, however, cause an insane about of lag
#2071 [21:21] <mattym> We all better have heard of it
#2072 [21:21] <skymoy> 5 FPS
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#2074 [21:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: That's not what I'm talking about.
#2075 [21:21] <CrusaderDeleters> They basically slow down, speed up, then disappears, then reappears, all simultaneously.
#2076 [21:22] <skymoy> yes, that's actually a bug with minecraft's renderer
#2077 [21:22] <skymoy> they're crossing chunk boundaries and render chunk boundaries
#2078 [21:22] <skymoy> not all chunks are rendered at the same rate
#2079 [21:22] <CrusaderDeleters> They could have used entities for that. I mean, what's so bad with rendering about 40 "microblocks"
#2080 [21:23] <skymoy> when frames move, they are entities
#2081 [21:23] <mattym> more entities would have made it slower
#2082 [21:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp.
#2083 [21:23] <skymoy> at least, i think they are
#2084 [21:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Probably.
#2085 [21:23] <skymoy> i know they have tile entities tied to them to store the data for the blocks that were there and are being moved
#2086 [21:23] <CrusaderDeleters> But, seems like they're doing something wrong there. Mojang has made sand and gravel seemlessly fall.
#2087 [21:23] <Mistika2489> How did you react the first time you saw a baby wolf
#2088 [21:24] <skymoy> seamlessly?
#2089 [21:24] <skymoy> get 100 sand falling at the same time
#2090 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> "Oh, yeah! I finally have a baby pup!... Who's attacking me?!"
#2091 [21:24] <skymoy> it's not as smooth, in FPS, as 100 frames moving
#2092 [21:24] <mattym> or make sand/gravel fall through cobweb
#2093 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: My 'chine can handle that.
#2094 [21:24] <skymoy> get enough sand to lag you, then
#2095 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Matty: That's the slowest fall you can possibly get. :P
#2096 [21:25] <skymoy> then get the same number of frames moving
#2097 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: I get bored trying to place all that sand. :P
#2098 [21:25] <skymoy> there will be less lag with frames
#2099 [21:25] <mattym> yeah but the way it looks is laggy
#2100 [21:25] <cestislife> haha
#2101 [21:25] <Mistika2489> I told my mom if you mine bedrock for 5 minutes you get it and it makes really nice bricks
#2102 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I eventually made a 15x15x5 sand thing.
#2103 [21:25] <skymoy> minecraft is all square. don't complain about graphical artifacts caused by its renderer :P
#2104 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#2105 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Something Minecraft does right that RP doesn't: Only render the sides of blocks that are touching air.
#2106 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> That's the problem with Microblocks.
#2107 [21:26] <skymoy> RP2's blocks perform beautifully, they don't light well and movement looks buggy, but they actually function, and they function at a decent pace
#2108 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> If you place 6 covers, your MC renders 36 frames.
#2109 [21:27] <skymoy> faces, you mean
#2110 [21:27] <Mistika2489> DIAMOND!!!
#2111 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#2112 [21:27] <skymoy> and that's not RP2
#2113 [21:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Then what is it?
#2114 [21:27] <skymoy> minecraft's renderer renders all geometry, visible or not
#2115 [21:27] <Mistika2489> Guys!
#2116 [21:28] <Mistika2489> 6 diamonds!
#2117 [21:28] <skymoy> it reduces artifacts, but it's slow
#2118 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: Actually, Minecraft renders the faces that touch air. This is true for ALL full blocks.
#2119 [21:28] <skymoy> microblocks are not full blocks
#2120 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#2121 [21:28] <skymoy> they are listed as transparent
#2122 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#2123 [21:29] <skymoy> fences are transparent
#2124 [21:29] <skymoy> fences have the same problem microblocks do
#2125 [21:29] <skymoy> it is minecraft's renderer
#2126 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> But all Full blocks, whether it be Diamond Block, a Crusher, or even a Macerator, the only part that actuall renders visible is the sides that are next to air.
#2127 [21:30] <skymoy> microblocks are not full blocks
#2128 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
#2129 [21:30] <skymoy> you're comparing apples and oranges inside a blender
#2130 [21:31] <mattym> Then wh do you want them to act like they are?
#2131 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Matty: Nothing different. Didn't say I wanted them to act like anything else.
#2132 [21:31] <skymoy> then why are you blaming redpower for a fault in minecraft's code?
#2133 [21:31] <skymoy> IC2 wires aren't full blocks either, they'll render all faces
#2134 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not. I was actually heading towards the idea that Microblocks should check to see if it could reduce any of the faces it shows.
#2135 [21:32] <skymoy> that wouldn't work
#2136 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> It could, actually.
#2137 [21:32] <skymoy> if you want that, then get optifine
#2138 [21:32] <mattym> That would require the modded to create a new type of blocktype
#2139 [21:33] <skymoy> that actually changes minecraft's renderer
#2140 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep.
#2141 [21:33] <mattym> which vanilla then wouldnt understand how to interact with
#2142 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech. Just a suggestion they should have done. .-.
#2143 [21:33] <skymoy> this is a problem with the vanilla renderer. eloraam can't do anything about it without rewriting the renderer
#2144 [21:33] <mattym> If they build their blocks based on vanilla options it makes more compatability
#2145 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> There's always ways to compatability, guys. ;)
#2146 [21:34] <skymoy> not for transparent blocks
#2147 [21:34] <skymoy> not without rewriting the renderer
#2148 [21:34] <skymoy> i've messed with the code, please trust me on this
#2149 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Obviously.
#2150 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> But why can't eloraam change the renderer?
#2151 [21:35] <mattym> It boils down to this, Make it look a little better and work like crap, or have it look the way it does and keep a level of compatability
#2152 [21:35] <skymoy> that would break other mods, like optifine and forge
#2153 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Isn't the renderer being changed anyway, in the recent snapshots?
#2154 [21:36] <mattym> no
#2155 [21:36] <skymoy> no, but they are rewriting it
#2156 [21:36] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#2157 [21:36] <mattym> just the way the textures are mapped
#2158 [21:36] <skymoy> it's mostly a lighting engine rewrite
#2159 [21:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Lolwut. Changed =/= rewriting?
#2160 [21:36] <skymoy> it's more than that, mattym
#2161 [21:36] <skymoy> it's not in the snapshots, CrusaderDeleters
#2162 [21:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang needs to add Terrain_2.png soon. c:
#2163 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Have you seen terrain.png? theres about 5-10 more pink creative spaces left.
#2164 [21:37] <skymoy> briefly in 13w02a/b, i believe, but they pulled it because of bugs
#2165 [21:37] <mattym> thats why they are changing the texture mapping CrusaderDeleters
#2166 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Note to Mojang: Of course there will be bugs.
#2167 [21:37] <skymoy> they were severe bugs, CrusaderDeleters
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#2169 [21:38] <mattym> no more terrain.png essentially
#2170 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Of course.
#2171 [21:38] <skymoy> they're still writing it, they're just keeping working code in the snapshots
#2172 [21:38] <skymoy> and code that barely works out of it (except for trapped chests and TNT minecarts)
#2173 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Matty: I doubt they will do that, without splitting it into other, smaller .png's, or one bigger one.
#2174 [21:38] <mattym> thats is what they are doing
#2175 [21:38] <Lord_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, they are
#2176 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Tnt minecarts?
#2177 [21:38] <skymoy> it's one png per block
#2178 [21:38] <mattym> and item i believe
#2179 [21:39] <skymoy> blocks can be animated in the png, now!
#2180 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#2181 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> They always were?
#2182 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Like lava and water?
#2183 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> But anyways: SWEET
#2184 [21:39] <skymoy> those are not static images
#2185 [21:39] <skymoy> those are drawn at runtime by code
#2186 [21:39] <skymoy> same with fire
#2187 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> That would create lag.
#2188 [21:39] <skymoy> they're special cases, not a feature of blocks in general
#2189 [21:40] <skymoy> it does create lag. but, it's only 16x16 pixels
#2190 [21:40] <Lukario45> http://pastebin.mcthunder.net/2
#2191 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: Have you ever had a lot of fire up at the same time?
#2192 [21:40] <skymoy> they draw it to a buffer, then draw that buffer image every frame, like for the static images
#2193 [21:40] <Lukario45> Why i get that error
#2194 [21:40] <skymoy> CrusaderDeleters: they draw it once per frame.
#2195 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: Yeah, but when you get about 200 fires, it starts to get hard on your computer.
#2196 [21:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I know that Lava and Water's created with a 16x2346578920 png file, then it's all chopped up into pieces and then placed into an internal gif.
#2197 [21:41] <skymoy> that's because fire is a transparent block with 16 faces to draw
#2198 [21:41] <mattym> Lukario45: can you post the full crash log
#2199 [21:41] <Mistika2489> I wish mojang would add back dirt slabs
#2200 [21:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: True
#2201 [21:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: 16? I can only account for about 6
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#2203 [21:42] <skymoy> those 6, times 2 (you can see the fire animation on both sides!) and an additional cross in the middle
#2204 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, placed on the ground only makes 8.
#2205 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> The cross, and the external.
#2206 [21:43] <skymoy> the top and bottom are rendered too
#2207 [21:43] <skymoy> they're fully transparent
#2208 [21:43] <skymoy> but they're still rendered
#2209 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Then they wouldn't be rendered. ;
#2210 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp
#2211 [21:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I failed on that smile.
#2212 [21:44] <Lukario45> mattym thats all its giving me
#2213 [21:44] <skymoy> okay, you know how fire isn't visible on the full 16x16 face? there are 100% transparent areas
#2214 [21:44] <skymoy> those areas are still pixels, and they're still being drawn by the GPU
#2215 [21:45] <skymoy> there is a shorter path for transparent pixels in the solid render pass, but it still takes a non-zero amount of time
#2216 [21:45] <skymoy> it adds up
#2217 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> True
#2218 [21:45] <skymoy> it's like having $100 in pennies
#2219 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Ehm. Try 8 pennies. ;)
#2220 [21:45] <skymoy> not a lot of money, but it takes a lot of effort to move around
#2221 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> That's still heavy.
#2222 [21:46] <skymoy> yeah, 8 * 50
#2223 [21:46] <mattym> Lukario45: You may be able to get more help in a development channel
#2224 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> But lets really think: There's 2+4+4+4, that's 18 faces of the fire, Visible or not
#2225 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> So you'll have at least 18 pennies per fire
#2226 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> And a ghast usually outputs about 5 fires?
#2227 [21:46] <skymoy> it adds up
#2228 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> that's at least 90 pennies. Ugh. I dread pennies so much
#2229 [21:47] <skymoy> the worst part is when the fires go out
#2230 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Explain, please?
#2231 [21:47] <skymoy> or start up, really
#2232 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Is it just memory cost?
#2233 [21:47] <skymoy> the lightning engine has to update all of that
#2234 [21:47] <Lukario45> mattym
#2235 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech.
#2236 [21:47] <Lukario45> what is tje channel
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#2238 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: Are you trying to make a mod?
#2239 [21:48] <mattym> no clue
#2240 [21:48] <Lukario45> No
#2241 [21:48] <Lukario45> Im not
#2242 [21:48] <skymoy> it's 16 blocks in 5 directions (on flat ground)
#2243 [21:48] <Lukario45> Im Doing Something Else with the Server Source
#2244 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> True.
#2245 [21:48] <mattym> then why do you have a error log with class names
#2246 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: such as?
#2247 [21:48] <skymoy> that's actually a lot of ground
#2248 [21:49] <skymoy> 30x30x15 if the renderer is smart
#2249 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes. We should use a pyramid equation to find out the total blocks affected.
#2250 [21:49] <jen> I am on a MAC and looking for my .jar folder to load in a mod but see that I only have a .jar file in my bin. Should I have an actual .jar folder?
#2251 [21:49] <Lukario45> I am Planning to Hook the Server Source with MCThunder
#2252 [21:50] <skymoy> pyramid equations are more expensive than just updating the 30x30x15 square
#2253 [21:50] <mattym> jen: We dont hanfle Mod stuff in this channel
#2254 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Sky: That's basically making a giant rectangular prism.
#2255 [21:50] <Lukario45> jen: that is the right jarfile it should be in your bin folder
#2256 [21:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: Sounds to me like modifying the code.
#2257 [21:50] <skymoy> computers, they're fast in a straight line. not so much when you throw a conditional branch at them
#2258 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> jen: This would be useful for you - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#2259 [21:50] <Lukario45> Crusa I am ot moddifying Minecraft Code
#2260 [21:51] <Lukario45> Addint my own code toir
#2261 [21:51] <jen> thank you I will check that out
#2262 [21:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: Toir? Also, what is MCThunder?
#2263 [21:51] <skymoy> Lukario45: you're modifying it
#2264 [21:51] <mattym> Lukario45: either way, a channel that handles development stuff would be better able to help you
#2265 [21:51] <skymoy> CrusaderDeleters: theirs
#2266 [21:51] <skymoy> or, to it
#2267 [21:51] <Lukario45> What is the Channle
#2268 [21:51] <skymoy> it was a typo either way
#2269 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> #bukkit may be of help.
#2270 [21:52] <Lord_Ralex> CrusaderDeleters, no it won't
#2271 [21:52] <Lord_Ralex> not for his help
#2272 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. Does MCThunder have a support channel, then?
#2273 [21:52] <skymoy> #risucraft won't be of help either. he was already there
#2274 [21:52] <skymoy> i *still* don't know what he was doing
#2275 [21:52] <Lukario45> Yes MCThunder Does have a support channel
#2276 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Then you should go there. :)
#2277 [21:52] <skymoy> go ask them, then
#2278 [21:53] <Lukario45> What help would that be....
#2279 [21:53] <Lukario45> Your talking to "them" right now
#2280 [21:53] <skymoy> you're the one making your thing
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#2282 [21:53] <Fang> Hello
#2283 [21:53] <Fang> I get this error: Fatal Error Ocurred (4) Null
#2284 [21:53] <skymoy> you would know what you need help with, being the programmer of the thing you're programming, Lukario45
#2285 [21:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: You make MCThunder?
#2286 [21:53] <Fang> And I have tried everything such as force updating, turning off web filtering, and none work
#2287 [21:53] <Fang> what do I do
#2288 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> ?? fatalerror4
#2289 [21:53] <VoxelHead> fatalerror4: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html has a fix for Minecraft problems caused by malware or other issues causing Fatal Error 4.
#2290 [21:54] <Lukario45> sky its not my fault the Server Source isnt working
#2291 [21:54] <Lukario45> i havent modifyed it
#2292 [21:54] * skymoy giggles
#2292 [21:54] <Lukario45> I just put it in
#2293 [21:54] <skymoy> mac malware crashign minecraft
#2294 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2295 [21:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Is there even a Malwarebytes for MacS?
#2296 [21:55] <skymoy> there is antivirus software, yes
#2297 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> I mean Malwarebytes, specifically. :P
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#2299 [21:55] <skymoy> Lukario45: you didn't decompile it correctly, then
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#2301 [21:56] <skymoy> but given that apple has told its consumers macs "don't get viruses," i doubr the mac AV software has enough income to be as good as windows AV software
#2302 [21:56] <Lukario45> Was i supose to decompile the MinecraftServer.Jar and the Minecraft.jar
#2303 [21:56] <mattym> skymoy: I think they actually stopped using those words
#2304 [21:56] <Fang> I open minecraft and try to install it, (downloading the .minecraft), and then it downloads for about a second and then it shows a screen which has this text: Fatal Error Occurred (4) Null
#2305 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Lukario: You should go to the MCP channel.
#2306 [21:56] <skymoy> mattym: they did indeed, after an antitrust lawsuit!
#2307 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> ?? fatalerror4 Fang
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#2309 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp, Voxel
#2310 [21:57] <skymoy> ??> Fang fatalerror4
#2311 [21:57] <VoxelHead> Fang: (fatalerror4) http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html has a fix for Minecraft problems caused by malware or other issues causing Fatal Error 4.
#2312 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Why does Voxel hate me so? :(
#2313 [21:57] <skymoy> voxel is just awkward
#2314 [21:58] <Fang> Like I said Voxel. My anti-virus isn't the problem. I shut off web-filtering which stops downloads, and it STILL gave me the same screen.
#2315 [21:58] <Red> I just downloaded the server for minecraft today and set it up for a friend and i. However neither him or i can enter the end without the server crashing. HELP
#2316 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Fang: Let's get an error report from you then, for when the problem occurs
#2317 [21:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Fang: The problem is is that your Anti-Virus software isn't detecting the malware on your mac.
#2318 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Here is how to get a crash report - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#2319 [21:58] <mattym> Red: Are you entering hte end through a propper portal or a man made one?
#2320 [22:00] <Red> i am going through a natural one.
#2321 [22:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Red: Could you pastebin the server error from the console?
#2322 [22:00] <mattym> then please get us the crash report as stated above^
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#2324 [22:02] <Red> hold on a sec
#2325 [22:03] <Fang> I have a windows with Kaspersky.
#2326 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow. Steam almost gave me a heart attack. I sent in a ticket that I couldn't remember my password (Username's case sensitive), and then I get an email saying that my password has been changed.
#2327 [22:03] <Fang> Also, I have tried those 3 crash report tutorials
#2328 [22:03] <Fang> NONE WORKED.
#2329 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> Fang: That might be a aprt of the problem. What about then didnt' work?
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#2331 [22:04] <mattym> thats cause those are for minecraft crash logs, not error logs from a compiler/ide
#2332 [22:04] <Red_> I was just here on my cell and now i'm on my pc
#2333 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Red_: Wassup? :)
#2334 [22:05] <mattym> hes still working on getting us the crash log
#2335 [22:05] <Fang> Well you see the only method that almost worked was the last one. Yet when I opened the file there was no text.
#2336 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
#2337 [22:05] <Fang> It was completely blank.
#2338 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> Fang: What happens when you use the first method?
#2339 [22:05] <Red_> here is the crash report you asked for: ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Everything's going to plan. No, really, that was supposed to happen. Time: 2/6/13 7:51 PM Description: Ticking entity java.lang.IllegalStateException: Entity is already tracked! at ii.a(SourceFile:69) at ii.a(SourceFile:58) at ij.a(SourceFile:24) at yc.a(SourceFile:842) at in.a(SourceFile:580) at yc.d(SourceFile:834) at gm.a(SourceFile:370) at lq.b(So
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#2341 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Red: http://www.pastebin.com
#2342 [22:06] <mattym> in his defense we all forgot to say use pastebin
#2343 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Well... I did say use pastebin.
#2344 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> [22:00]CrusaderDeleters: Red: Could you pastebin the server error from the console?
#2345 [22:06] <Red_> sorry
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#2347 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> It's alright. We get plenty of those mistakes. :)
#2348 [22:07] <mattym> ok, no one linked it was what i meant
#2349 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> True
#2350 [22:07] <Fang> The first one doesn't work because i CAN'T install the .minecraft to get into minecraft in the first place that is why im here.
#2351 [22:07] <Red_> so do you want me to send it in that way you said?
#2352 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> Fang: You don't need to install for the report to be obtained
#2353 [22:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Red_ Yes.
#2354 [22:08] <Red_> sorry i'm new to this. how do i send it?
#2355 [22:09] <mattym> ??> Red_ pastebin
#2356 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Red: You hit the submit button right below the text screen, then give us the URL.
#2357 [22:09] <VoxelHead> Red_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2358 [22:10] <Red_> http://pastebin.com/aW3f8NAV
#2359 [22:10] <Red_> that's it i think
#2360 [22:11] <mattym> thats good
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#2362 [22:12] <cestislife> Red_, is your client modded?
#2363 [22:12] <gummythekoala> Hi, My name is Gail, recently I bought the minecraft for my daughter
#2364 [22:12] <Red_> no
#2365 [22:12] <cestislife> Odd.
#2366 [22:12] <cestislife> gummythekoala, what seems to be the problem?
#2367 [22:12] <mattym> cestislife: that was a server crash log
#2368 [22:12] <skymoy> interesting report
#2369 [22:12] <cestislife> Ah, makes sense.
#2370 [22:12] <CrusaderDeleters> The thing that is making it crash is most likely an Experience Orb that got corrupted.
#2371 [22:12] <gummythekoala> I have been debited twice for the minecraft game
#2372 [22:13] <gummythekoala> how do I recoup $ ?
#2373 [22:13] <mattym> Red_: Try deleting the dimention folder related The End
#2374 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> gummythekoala refund
#2375 [22:13] <mattym> then try again
#2376 [22:13] <skymoy> the orb is fine, the problem is that the orb was added to the tracking list twice
#2377 [22:13] <VoxelHead> gummythekoala: (refund) This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2378 [22:13] <skymoy> i'm not sure how that can happen
#2379 [22:13] <Red_> ok.
#2380 [22:13] <mattym> dimension*
#2381 [22:13] <mattym> i foget what number it is, so look it up before you delete it
#2382 [22:14] <cestislife> iirc 0 = overworld, 1 = nether 2 = the end/
#2383 [22:14] * cestislife is not sure
#2383 [22:14] <skymoy> no, -1 is the nether
#2384 [22:14] <cestislife> then 1 = the end?
#2385 [22:14] <mattym> yeah
#2386 [22:14] <skymoy> that's why it's in DIM-1
#2387 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. Looks like they changed the refund policy.
#2388 [22:14] <Fang> Well
#2389 [22:14] <Fang> I have to go
#2390 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Yes, all new and improved
#2391 [22:15] <Fang> Ill check back tomorrow....
#2392 [22:15] <Red_> ok. where is the file? is it a bin?
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#2394 [22:15] <mattym> no
#2395 [22:15] <skymoy> it's in saves
#2396 [22:15] <skymoy> under IDK
#2397 [22:15] <mattym> it will be in the world folder in the server
#2398 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk: Glad to hear. Now, people cannot complain as much as they used to.
#2399 [22:15] <Red_> oh duh
#2400 [22:15] <gummythekoala> thanks for info
#2401 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2402 [22:15] * Contex is now known as Contex|Away
#2403 [22:15] <gummythekoala> I am sending an email to customer support at m
#2404 [22:16] <gummythekoala> their support centre
#2405 [22:16] <Red_> so file #2 is the end?
#2406 [22:17] <gummythekoala> also one more thing, When I was entering the username and password to get my daughter into Minecraft, it had a update button which I pressed, now she is complaining that she hasn't got the horses etc in her game because I did an update
#2407 [22:17] <gummythekoala> is there a way to get rid of it?
#2408 [22:17] <cestislife> gummythekoala, there are no horses in Minecraft
#2409 [22:17] * Contex|Away is now known as Contex
#2410 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> gummythekoala: Minecraft doesn't come with horses. If she did sometihng else like install a mod to the game, she would have to do that again for the new version of the game
#2411 [22:17] <gummythekoala> her friend plays it, she also bought game, there are in hers
#2412 [22:18] <cestislife> If anything, she installed a mod related to horses.
#2413 [22:18] <gummythekoala> oh ok
#2414 [22:18] <gummythekoala> my daughter can change skins
#2415 [22:18] <gummythekoala> but she also wants the extra animals ie horses
#2416 [22:18] <mattym> Red_: I forget which one the End is stored in, check the wiki
#2417 [22:18] <Red_> it worked thanks :-)
#2418 [22:18] <Red_> it was #2
#2419 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Glad it worked, Red. :)
#2420 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> \o
#2421 [22:19] <Red_> bye now
#2422 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya
#2423 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya
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#2425 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> o, He left me hangin'.
#2426 [22:19] <mattym> but its no 2
#2427 [22:20] <mattym> its DIM1
#2428 [22:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, imma get off of here now.
#2429 [22:20] * CrusaderDeleters is now known as CrusAsleep
#2430 [22:20] <gummythekoala> so the update button I clicked on when entering the usename and password to open up minecraft after buying it didn't affect it to stop her getting extra animals is that right?
#2431 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> If she added something earlier on to get those extra animals, she will need to add it again for the updated version too
#2432 [22:21] <skymoy> if it was a mod (sounds like mocreatures), you need to add the mods again
#2433 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft doesn't currently support mods. So whenever minecraft updates, it's the "as new" version that you're getting without any mods
#2434 [22:23] <gummythekoala> how do I get these mods
#2435 [22:24] <gummythekoala> as I said her friend has it on her game, my daughter doesn't have these extra animals and wants them lol
#2436 [22:24] <mattym> ask hre friend where she got them
#2437 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Then you will need to contact her friend about how she got them
#2438 [22:24] <gummythekoala> she was playing the free version before I paid for this one and it didn't have animals ie horses
#2439 [22:24] <gummythekoala> ok will do :)
#2440 [22:24] <gummythekoala> thanks
#2441 [22:26] <gummythekoala> i'll find out from her friend, must have added them on somehow
#2442 [22:26] <gummythekoala> thankyou
#2443 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> That friend might even be willing to come around to help put them on there too
#2444 [22:26] <gummythekoala> how do I log out of here
#2445 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> /part
#2446 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> /part
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#2454 [22:37] <ShockValue> do commands from the console (that differ from the server.properties file) stay between reboots? like if my server prop file had white-list=true.. but then i turn it off via the console, does it stay off, or would it be back on after restart?
#2455 [22:37] <mattym> its supposed to
#2456 [22:38] <mattym> depending on your particular setup however there are some cases where it may not
#2457 [22:38] <mattym> depends on how your server is set up, are you running any other programs to handle backups or a server wrapper?
#2458 [22:39] <ShockValue> just calling a bukkit minecraft build from the command line
#2459 [22:39] <mattym> im not 100% sure how bukkit handles it, but from what i know it should work the way you want
#2460 [22:39] <ShockValue> thanks
#2461 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> For better details, there is the #bukkit channel
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#2463 [22:42] <mattym> bukkit really shoulndt change the way the basic server handles its properties file
#2464 [22:42] <mattym> so i dont think its gonna cause it to work differently than intended
#2465 [22:43] <jenjoelmo> hi - my son tried to onstall MCa and now minecraft crashes... I have the crash report at http://pastebin.com/1Ma0H6qA
#2466 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> That's the trouble - we don't know how or if bukkit differs in that respect
#2467 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> jenjoelmo: Please reinstall and try again
#2468 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> jenjoelmo win/reinst
#2469 [22:43] <VoxelHead> jenjoelmo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2470 [22:43] <VoxelHead> jenjoelmo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2471 [22:44] <mattym> from what i remember of my use with it, it didnt thats the only reason i told him what i did
#2472 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> jenjoelmo: There were mods installed with the one that you provided the report for. Mods are something that we can't help with here
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#2474 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> jenjoelmo: Which is why the advice to reinstall, and return things back to a known good state
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#2476 [22:45] <jenjoelmo> ok thank you
#2477 [22:46] <brosky> I cannot create an account b/c it is saying i have already bought minecraft and cannot buy it 2X
#2478 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> brosky: One email one account. If you want to purchase a second account, use another email address.
#2479 [22:46] <mattym> whaaaat?
#2480 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> brosky: Please login to the https://account.mojang.com/ web site and tell me what you see in the My Games section of that page
#2481 [22:49] <brosky> nothing
#2482 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> brosky: You have no web page load up for you at all?
#2483 [22:49] <brosky> yes the page loaded but there is nothing under the my games section
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#2485 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> brosky: Taht's strange - can we see a screenshot?
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#2489 [22:54] <brosky> cant put it on page but says My games then My giftcode: redeem a code etc
#2490 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> brosky: From what you're telling me, your account has not been paid for.
#2491 [22:55] <brosky> ah but i have recieved 2 confermation codes for 2 payments. so its saying i have paid for it twice
#2492 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> brosky: Are those receipt id's ?
#2493 [22:58] <brosky> yes 2 moneybookers confermations and 2 mojang processing orders
#2494 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> brosky: What did you use to make the payment?
#2495 [22:58] <brosky> debit card
#2496 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> brosky: Check your bank account transactions - have you been charged?
#2497 [22:59] <brosky> after 5 so i will not see transactions until tomorrow
#2498 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Check tomorrow then - you can not be charged more than once for one account
#2499 [23:00] <brosky> thats a relief. will i be able to downlode minecraft at that point?
#2500 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> brosky: You can download the game launcher at any time. The launcher will only allow you to login to it (with your email and password that you use for the web site) once your account shows that it has been paid for
#2501 [23:02] <brosky> but the payment has to have gone through befor the launcher will work... correct?
#2502 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> correct - the launcher does not allow unpaid accounts to login. That would allow unpaid accounts to download the game, which would not be a good business practice
#2503 [23:04] <brosky> that is true. i understand. but will the second transacton be nullified?
#2504 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> it will - multiple payments for the one account just aren't possible
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#2506 [23:05] <brosky> then why is the error message "you have already purchased the game" not allowing me to create an account for the game?
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#2508 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> You already have an account for the game. The account hasn't progressed to being a paid account yet.
#2509 [23:07] <brosky> ok so it boils down to needing to wait until tomorrow to actually play the game.
#2510 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> It boils down to checking your bank account. If you haven't been charged, then your bank may be blocking the attempt for some reason. Contact your bank to find out why.
#2511 [23:09] <brosky> understood. thank you for the help
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#2525 [23:57] <erc> my minecraft is crashed. Can you help me?
#2526 [23:58] <mattym> Please send us a pastebin link to the crash report
#2527 [23:58] <mattym> ??> erc pastebin
#2528 [23:58] <VoxelHead> erc: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.