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#2 [00:02] <FatherWh0> Is osuka here on a different nick or is he offline?
#3 [00:03] <mattym> Havent seen any name change for him since ive been on,
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#5 [00:04] <FatherWh0> I see he and I have had a similar experience on a certain minecraft server that shall remain hated... errr nameless.
#6 [00:04] <mattym> FatherWh0 He logged off like 3 hours ago
#7 [00:04] <mattym> Go on
#8 [00:04] <FatherWh0> did he tell u guys about getting banned from a server?
#9 [00:05] <mattym> nah, want here for any of that
#10 [00:05] <da_man100908> ok, did the fresh java install and now it's throwing out errors
#11 [00:05] <mattym> ok, can you copy those errors to a pastebin
#12 [00:05] <mattym> ??> da_man100908 pastebin
#13 [00:05] <VoxelHead> da_man100908: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#14 [00:06] <da_man100908> well it's just the java virtual machine now
#15 [00:07] <mattym> waht error?
#16 [00:07] <da_man100908> Error: Could not create the Java Virual Machine
#17 [00:08] <mattym> da_man100908 Did you do anything to this computer since the last time it worked?
#18 [00:08] <mattym> Hardware change, OS change, anything like that
#19 [00:09] <da_man100908> well, I upgraded the hardware in august of last year, and it worked fine then.
#20 [00:09] <mattym> that shouldnt be effecting it now
#21 [00:10] <da_man100908> changed from an AMD processor and vid cards to an intel CPU and Nivia
#22 [00:10] <da_man100908> vid card
#23 [00:10] <mattym> wait, what?
#24 [00:10] <mattym> On the same computer?
#25 [00:11] <da_man100908> no, changed the case
#26 [00:11] <da_man100908> but same hard drive
#27 [00:11] <mattym> But kept the hard drive im guessing?
#28 [00:11] <mattym> Wow, that could be the issue
#29 [00:12] <da_man100908> :/
#30 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> so only thing the same was the hard drive?
#31 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> it should not be that bad really
#32 [00:12] <da_man100908> that and the Optical drive
#33 [00:12] <mattym> he probably has leftover drivers from the old setup
#34 [00:13] <FatherWh0> did u uninstall the old video drivers?
#35 [00:13] <Lord_Ralex> give it a clean up then and remove drivers from the old then
#36 [00:13] <Lord_Ralex> make sure you have your drivers for those parts
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#38 [00:14] <da_man100908> i don't have the drivers for the old setup
#39 [00:14] <da_man100908> only the new
#40 [00:15] <FatherWh0> He's saying uninstall the old drivers.
#41 [00:15] <da_man100908> kk
#42 [00:15] <mattym> make sure that there is nothing installed from your old setup
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#45 [00:18] <da_man100908> there is NOTHING left on my computer that says AMD
#46 [00:20] <mattym> Well then im out of ideas, anyone else got anything?
#47 [00:20] <FatherWh0> r u running 32 or 64 bit java?
#48 [00:20] <da_man100908> i don't know
#49 [00:20] <Lord_Ralex> i missed the original issue
#50 [00:21] <FatherWh0> He's getting "could not create the java virtual machine"
#51 [00:21] <da_man100908> how would I check that?
#52 [00:21] <Lord_Ralex> that would be a java issue
#53 [00:21] <Lord_Ralex> and should have been looked into
#54 [00:22] <FatherWh0> How much ram do you have, and did that change recently too?
#55 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> da_man100908, does it give any more of an error or just that?
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#57 [00:22] <mattym> First issuem was that his client couldnt connect to minecraft.net, and he already tried the usual methods,he can make it work in browser, but last attempt was a clean install of java, now he gets the message about teh JVM
#58 [00:23] <da_man100908> no just that
#59 [00:23] <dpat> How do I play multiplayer? It keeps giving me a time out error
#60 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> da_man100908, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
#61 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> please follow that so we can see what is happening
#62 [00:25] <mattym> dpat have you made it so that your firewall and antivirus are not blocking minecraft and java
#63 [00:25] <dpat> No. I dont know how to do that.
#64 [00:26] <da_man100908> "The system cannot find the path specified."
#65 [00:27] <Lord_Ralex> da_man100908, do you have a 32 or 64 bit OS
#66 [00:28] <da_man100908> 64-bit\
#67 [00:28] <Lord_Ralex> http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=73859 you want to install this one
#68 [00:29] <dpat> im in the allow programs and it does not give me the option to allow minecraft.
#69 [00:30] <mattym> does it let you add java?
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#72 [00:32] <dpat> yes but it still gives me the conection timed out.
#73 [00:34] <mattym> dpat Does that only happen on 1 server, or any server
#74 [00:34] <da_man100908> ok the launcher fixed but it still doesn't connect
#75 [00:35] <da_man100908> does CMD do a log output?
#76 [00:36] <Lord_Ralex> it does, which is why we use it to determine issues
#77 [00:36] <da_man100908> where's the output then?
#78 [00:36] <mattym> now that your java is working again, try to get the crash log http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_get_a_crash_report
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#80 [00:39] <da_man100908> got the log, but windows will not let me copy from CMD
#81 [00:40] <mattym> you need to highlight it and select copy from the menu at the top of the screen
#82 [00:40] <mattym> right click the top for options
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#84 [00:41] <da_man100908> then?
#85 [00:41] <mattym> ??> da_man100908 pastebin
#86 [00:41] <VoxelHead> da_man100908: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#87 [00:41] <mattym> copy it there ^
#88 [00:42] <da_man100908> again it WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO COPY FROM CMD.
#89 [00:42] <mattym> the instructions from the crash report howto should have had a text file made
#90 [00:43] <da_man100908> and it did, but said txt file only contains "asdf".
#91 [00:46] <da_man100908> ok i have the log, BRB
#92 [00:49] <da_man100908> http://pastebin.com/Pb33HhuV
#93 [00:49] <da_man100908> BOOM!
#94 [00:50] <mattym> ok, are you sure java has an exception in your firewall and antivirus?
#95 [00:51] <mattym> cause it seems that its not getting through to the validation services
#96 [00:51] <da_man100908> idk
#97 [00:52] <da_man100908> lemme check
#98 [00:52] <mattym> what antivirus program do you use?
#99 [00:52] <da_man100908> ESET smart securty 5
#100 [00:54] <mattym> yeah, make sure that its set to allow minecraft/java, also make sure that the windows firewall is set to do the same
#101 [00:57] <Lord_Ralex> i think eset was a bit evil with mc
#102 [00:58] <mattym> yeah, from what i read it adds another firewall of its own
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#104 [01:02] <da_man100908> i have no idea how to :(
#105 [01:03] <mattym> Eset should have a site with some instructions fo rhow to use it
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#108 [01:21] <da_man100908> they still don't tell me
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#113 [01:45] <da_man100908> ok, still not working, i have changed the firewall to the best of my ability but still no luck.
#114 [01:46] <da_man100908> still getting the error i got earlier
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#118 [01:57] <da_man100908> ok well i'm done for the night, maybe I'll get it working tomorrow
#119 [01:57] <cloudn9ne> is there any way to stop double blocking?
#120 [01:58] <cloudn9ne> ?
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#126 [02:02] <dj4ggh123> my minecraft cant connect to imnecraft.net has not downloaded error and java does not work
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#129 [02:05] <dj4ggh123> heelp
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#131 [02:05] <mattym> If you need help please describe your problem
#132 [02:06] <dj4ggh123> my minecraft cant connect to imnecraft.net has not downloaded error and java does not work
#133 [02:06] <mattym> If you java is not working, I suggest reinstalling it
#134 [02:06] <mattym> This will probably fix most of your issues
#135 [02:07] <dj4ggh123> k i will try
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#138 [02:09] <dj4ggh123> still not workinh mattym
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#140 [02:10] <mattym> have you tried turning off your antivirus and firewall to make sure they are not blocking the connection
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#143 [02:12] <Ryguy> I have been tyring to fix this but did not get any were. I need help when i go in to my world every thing is fine but when i go in to my invintory and then exit it goes to a message saying
#144 [02:13] <mattym> Ryguy Are you on a mac?
#145 [02:14] <Ryguy> that there is a minecraft has crash it tells me to go reed the crash report
#146 [02:15] <mattym> Ryguy Are you playing on a Mac?
#147 [02:15] <Ryguy> no
#148 [02:15] <mattym> ok then go to the place where that report is
#149 [02:15] <mattym> and copy it to a pastebin
#150 [02:15] <mattym> ??> Ryguy pastebin
#151 [02:15] <VoxelHead> Ryguy: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#152 [02:17] <Ryguy> okay
#153 [02:19] <Ryguy> http://pastebin.com/yQ9zB1Tv
#154 [02:20] <mattym> ok i second
#155 [02:20] <mattym> ok here is what i want you to try
#156 [02:20] <mattym> ??> Ryguy forceupdate
#157 [02:20] <VoxelHead> Ryguy: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#158 [02:21] <VoxelHead> Ryguy: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#159 [02:21] <mattym> follow those instructions ^ and let me know if it helps the problem
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#161 [02:23] <Ryguy> one sec
#162 [02:24] <mattym> take your time
#163 [02:24] <Ryguy> Thank you it worked :)
#164 [02:24] <mattym> ok
#165 [02:25] <mattym> if you experience similar issues, try that again
#166 [02:25] <Ryguy> Okay
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#202 [04:24] <Discofix> My Anti Virus Program sais thet "http://pixel.quantserve.com/pixel/p-19UtqE8ngoZbM.gif" is infected when launching Minecraft
#203 [04:27] <Discofix> More Info: http://www.avast.com/de-de/lp-pr-virus-alert?p_ext=&utm_campaign=Virus_alert&utm_source=prg_ise_70_0&utm_medium=prg_systray&utm_content=.%2Fpaid%2Fde-de%2Fvirus-alert-default&p_vir=URL:Mal&p_prc=D:\Schnik%20Schnack\Games\Minecraft\Minecraft.exe&p_obj=http://pixel.quantserve.com/pixel/p-19UtqE8ngoZbM.gif&p_var=.%2Fpaid%2Fde-de%2Fvirus-alert-default&p_pro=2&p_vep=7&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=24&p_lst=0&p_lex=431&p_lng=de&p_lid=de-de&
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#231 [07:30] <OzziGenc> i cant download minecraft
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#234 [07:38] <Makovix> Hello
#235 [07:39] <Makovix> Minecraft crashes for me right after its done loading, a black screen would appear then the window would just close
#236 [07:39] <Makovix> How do I fix it.
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#240 [08:15] <D> My son purchased the app for his itouch...
#241 [08:16] <D> he is now asking for the pc version, so I need to pay all over again?
#242 [08:16] <tyteen4a03> D, Yes, the Pocket Edition and the PC Version are two different games
#243 [08:16] <D> is there a discount for having the other?
#244 [08:17] <tyteen4a03> D, not at the moment
#245 [08:17] <D> the game is $26.95?
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#247 [08:18] <tyteen4a03> D, yes
#248 [08:18] <D> are there any other fees? that is expensive
#249 [08:19] <tyteen4a03> D, you pay a one-time fee of $26.95 for one account and you own it forever
#250 [08:19] <D> he says he can p lay it on the wii?
#251 [08:19] <tyteen4a03> D, Minecraft is currently not available on the Wii, only the XBox
#252 [08:19] <D> than ks
#253 [08:19] <tyteen4a03> D, no problem
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#283 [09:58] <rogue__> does in any one know how to fix this issue, just started demo, 1st time playing, every time i start mining a rock or hitting a tree, the menu pops up, like when you pree esc
#284 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, are you playing the demo through the web?
#285 [10:00] <rogue__> yeah
#286 [10:01] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, do you remember touching the Control Settings in the menu?
#287 [10:02] <rogue__> looked in there, but didnt change any thing
#288 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, windows I presume?
#289 [10:03] <rogue__> some times it happens and some times it doesnt, its like im making the cursor pop out of game and back to brower, but dont know why. yeah windows 7, with chrome browser
#290 [10:03] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, some programs may be sending out Esc keystroke, or it's a borky keyboard
#291 [10:05] <rogue__> i found out if i keep the cursor completely still while i dig it doesnt happen, but as soon as i keep my finger on the left mouse button and move the mouse slighty it brings up the menu. its very weird. enjoying the game though. only been playing 5mins, and blew up twice, is it due to a gas in the ground?
#292 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, is your mouse in the center while digging? or on the side
#293 [10:07] <rogue__> mainly centre i supose
#294 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, hmm, a weird issue
#295 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, can you try the demo again with a new Windows user and see if this happens too?
#296 [10:10] <rogue__> i dont get it, im just working around it, some times it happens every time osmetimes not, may be and issue with my mouse buttom
#297 [10:10] <rogue__> yeah ill try
#298 [10:10] <rogue__> one more question, how to i turn cobblestone in to stone?
#299 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> rogue__, you throw the cobblestone into a furnace
#300 [10:11] <rogue__> thanks
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#304 [10:31] <limon0305> the picture does not look good, how can i fix it
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#308 [10:42] <limon0305> the picture does not look good, how can i fix it
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#326 [10:59] <tyteen4a03> oh well, will not unban
#327 [11:00] <TheNoodle> lol
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#344 [11:20] <rubberduck3456> I need help please
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#346 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> rubberduck3456 ask
#347 [11:20] <VoxelHead> rubberduck3456: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#348 [11:20] <VoxelHead> rubberduck3456: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#349 [11:20] <rubberduck3456> my open to lan feature is jacked up
#350 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, how so?
#351 [11:21] <rubberduck3456> every time i try to connect with my sister it says connection timed out
#352 [11:21] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, are both computers in the same network?
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#354 [11:21] <rubberduck3456> yes
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#357 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, has this feature worked before?
#358 [11:22] <rubberduck3456> we are both hard wired
#359 [11:22] <rubberduck3456> no it hasent
#360 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, make sure you have no firewall and antiviruses turned on
#361 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, make sure you have no firewall and antiviruses turned on
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#363 [11:23] <rubberduck3456> is there any way without taking down my firewall
#364 [11:23] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, no
#365 [11:23] <rubberduck3456> wait,
#366 [11:23] <rubberduck3456> my fire wall is norton
#367 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, that causes even more problems, uninstall it
#368 [11:24] <rubberduck3456> but i cant its against my famils policy
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#370 [11:25] <rubberduck3456> ok,
#371 [11:25] <rubberduck3456> i am confused
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#373 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, Norton conflicts with Minecraft in a lot of ways, we don't suggest running Norton
#374 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> use a better AV/Firewall solution instead, like Avast!
#375 [11:26] <rubberduck3456> what if i take down the fire wall, after i am done with the connection i put it back up
#376 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, Norton intercepts secured packets and conflicts with Minecraft
#377 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, you can try but we've had cases where uninstalling Norton fixed connection problems
#378 [11:27] <rubberduck3456> ok i will see what i can do
#379 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, you don't need a firewall if you are behind a router anyway
#380 [11:27] <rubberduck3456> i am hard wired into the internet
#381 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, you should be behind a router, unless you paid for two internet connections
#382 [11:28] <rubberduck3456> we did i think
#383 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, what happens when you visit 192.168.1.1 in your browser?
#384 [11:29] <rubberduck3456> is that an ip address
#385 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, yes
#386 [11:29] <rubberduck3456> one sec let me wirte it down
#387 [11:30] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, you don't need to
#388 [11:30] <rubberduck3456> why
#389 [11:30] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, visiting that IP will only test whether you are behind a router
#390 [11:30] <rubberduck3456> should i try it now with my minecraft
#391 [11:30] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, no, just visit it in your browser and see if it takes you somewhere
#392 [11:31] <rubberduck3456> so i got to multiplayer type in the ip and see if it works?
#393 [11:31] <rubberduck3456> go typo
#394 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, no, you visit that IP in your browser, such as Chrome or Internet Explorer
#395 [11:32] <rubberduck3456> oh, let me do it now
#396 [11:33] <rubberduck3456> what should i see i used google search
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#398 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, double-click on this link: http://192.168.1.1
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#401 [11:34] <rubberduck3456> it said i needed a username and a passwork
#402 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, then yes, you are behind a router
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#404 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, uninstall Norton firewall (and alternatively get Avast Antivirus instead) and your sister should be able to connect
#405 [11:36] <rubberduck3456> so, its the other computer my sisters
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#407 [11:36] <rubberduck3456> how much does it cost
#408 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, Avast! Antivirus is free
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#410 [11:37] <rubberduck3456> can you stay online
#411 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, both computers need to uninstall Norton
#412 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, this IRC channel won't go away ;)
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#414 [11:37] <rubberduck3456> i am geting my dad to talk to you hopefully
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#417 [11:39] <rubberduck3456> he said absoulyutly not
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#421 [11:39] <rubberduck3456> how can i set up a 2 player server for me and my sis
#422 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, if you are both in the same network, the easiest way would be to use the Open to LAN feature
#423 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, otherwise, there's a separate Minecraft server software you can run, however as I mentioned before firewalls and antiviruses will get in the way, especially AVG, Norton and ZoneAlarm
#424 [11:41] <rubberduck3456> can you just give me a link or something i am not aloud to uninstall the fire wall and get avast
#425 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, give you the link to what?
#426 [11:41] <rubberduck3456> a vid to help me set up a 2 player server
#427 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, the current problem lies within Norton, no video can fix that
#428 [11:42] <rubberduck3456> so i cant even set up a server?
#429 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, no
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#431 [11:42] <rubberduck3456> oh crub
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#433 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, you can try disabling Norton first and see if that fixes the problem, if not you'll have to uninstall it entirely
#434 [11:42] <rubberduck3456> ok let me see
#435 [11:43] <rubberduck3456> wait
#436 [11:43] <rubberduck3456> can i enable it when the connection is over
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#438 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, that would be up to you, but local firewalls are practically useless if behind a router
#439 [11:44] <rubberduck3456> let me see
#440 [11:44] <rubberduck3456> one min
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#442 [11:46] <rubberduck3456> can you give us any instructions to print out
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#445 [11:49] <rubberduck3456> hello?
#446 [11:51] <rubberduck3456> tyteen4a03?
#447 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, hi
#448 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, what instructions?
#449 [11:51] <rubberduck3456> to diable norton
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#451 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, I don't know which specific version are you using, but usually right-clicking on the Norton icon you should find something similar to Disable
#452 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, if not I'm afraid you'll have to google
#453 [11:52] <rubberduck3456> ok,
#454 [11:52] <rubberduck3456> i have a question to
#455 [11:53] <rubberduck3456> will you be on all day even in the evening
#456 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> rubberduck3456, personally I will be off soon, but help is almost available 24/7 here
#457 [11:57] <rubberduck3456> ok
#458 [11:57] <Morrolan> Though there's times where you'll have to wait half an hour to get a response.
#459 [11:57] <rubberduck3456> who is your manager have you met mojang
#460 [11:57] <Morrolan> Mojang is not a person.
#461 [11:57] <Morrolan> Manager? We have no such thing.
#462 [11:58] <rubberduck3456> lol
#463 [11:58] <Necrodoom> unoffical help chat
#464 [11:58] <rubberduck3456> thank you anyways
#465 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, I guess /we/ are managers
#466 [11:58] <TheNoodle> You manage us \o/
#467 [11:59] <Necrodoom> nah
#468 [11:59] <Morrolan> Would we be doing such works for so little money, if we were, tyteen4a03?
#469 [11:59] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: as in, you get money?
#470 [11:59] <Morrolan> I think of us more as a group of insane people, who are bored at work.
#471 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, the lowest price ever: free!
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#473 [12:00] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - Not really, no.
#474 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, that is also true
#475 [12:00] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: then why you lie D:
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#477 [12:01] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - Did I?
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#479 [12:01] <Necrodoom> <Morrolan> Would we be doing such works for so little money
#480 [12:01] <Necrodoom> so little money = some money
#481 [12:01] <Morrolan> I thought 'so little money' was a nice euphemism for 'no money'.
#482 [12:01] <Morrolan> You know, there's the occasional pat on the back.
#483 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan, and a free copy of Scrolls
#484 [12:02] <Morrolan> Right.
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#490 [12:07] <momneedshelp> we backed up minecraft files to external hard drive, set computer to factory setting, restored computer but now can not find minecraft worlds
#491 [12:07] <momneedshelp> ones that he had created
#492 [12:07] <Morrolan> Err, which Minecraft files did you back up?
#493 [12:08] <momneedshelp> all of them
#494 [12:08] <Morrolan> Including the ones in %appdata%?
#495 [12:08] <momneedshelp> he has no idea
#496 [12:08] <momneedshelp> but we backed up the entire computer
#497 [12:08] <Necrodoom> er
#498 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> momneedshelp, world folders are stored in %appdata%/.minecraft/worlds, if you don't remember backing that place up chances are it is lost
#499 [12:09] <Morrolan> Ah. Then they'll be in "C:\Users\<user name>\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft"
#500 [12:09] <Morrolan> C:\ in this case being the root folder of the backup, if you backed it all up.
#501 [12:09] <momneedshelp> ok thanks for that we will check
#502 [12:10] <momneedshelp> be right back
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#507 [12:19] <momneedshelp> ok I don't know much about the computer so I clicked on the computer button then saw the C drive and typed in what you wrote in the search bar with his user name but nothing came up. When we backed up the compter to an external hard drive it said it is backing up the whole computer, we didn't select what it should or should not backup
#508 [12:19] <momneedshelp> is there anywhere else we could look
#509 [12:20] <momneedshelp> did we not restore it properly
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#522 [12:40] <Moose> .login
#523 [12:40] <Moose> !login
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#532 [13:14] <Danmi> hey,
#533 [13:14] <Danmi> Please help me
#534 [13:14] <Danmi> I will try to pay with Paypal
#535 [13:15] <Danmi> Continue error occurs
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#537 [13:15] <Danmi> Return to merchant and try a different payment method
#538 [13:16] <Danmi> We are not able to process your payment using your paypal account at this time. please return to the merchant's website and try method
#539 [13:16] <Danmi> what the error?
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#544 [13:23] <Majestic> I've tried to make a hopper and the recipe wont work I used iron and chest anyone know if it's a bug?
#545 [13:24] <TNT_Br> I bought minecraft before yesterday, two days already passed, and still have not received the email that they would have spoke, it may take as long to get there?
#546 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> ??> TNT_Br payment
#547 [13:25] <VoxelHead> TNT_Br: (payment) Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#548 [13:25] <VoxelHead> TNT_Br: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/mc_activation
#549 [13:27] <TNT_Br> O problema é que comprei por cartão , e somente no começo do mÊs a boleta chega para se pagar , vou ter que esperar pagar a boleta para receber ?
#550 [13:28] <TNT_Br> The problem is that I bought a card, and only at the beginning of the month to pay ballot arrives, I will have to expect to pay to receive the ballot?
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#554 [13:32] <TNT_Br> How soon will I receive if card is postpaid?
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#556 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> TNT_Br, prepaid cards are not directly sold by Mojang, it will depend on the specific shop
#557 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> TNT_Br, if you can, use the online purchase option
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#560 [13:40] <TNT_Br> I bought the online store Mojang with debit card
#561 [13:41] <Majestic> What can you do if a recipe doesn't work?
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#565 [13:42] <Ryguy> Hello i was here last night with the same prob and i asked somebody they help but the probblem is back again. When i go in to minecraft everything is okay. But when i go in to world every thing is fine but when chek my inventory and then exit it tells me to reed my crash report and tell mojang
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#567 [13:45] <Ryguy> Hello i was here last night with the same prob and i asked somebody they help but the probblem is back again. When i go in to minecraft everything is okay. But when i go in to world every thing is fine but when chek my inventory and then exit then it crashes andtells me to reed the crash report
#568 [13:46] <Ryguy> Can anybody help
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#570 [13:51] <TNT_Br> What can you do if a recipe doesn't work?
#571 [13:51] <zelda> first i get downloading terrain and then i get internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out. WHO can help me
#572 [13:52] <zelda> anyone???
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#575 [13:58] <Hallboy1981> where can i get someone to fix a problem were someone took over my home area and trap me in my own house?
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#581 [14:02] <CDGT> The minecraft client will not open. I need admin privliges to download java which is most likely the problem.
#582 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> I take it your account is not an admin?
#583 [14:04] <CDGT> no it isnt
#584 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> You will need to use an admin account then. So ask whoever has one on the computer to download it for you and such
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#592 [14:15] <JMEL2012> does anyone know how to copy a single player map from one computer and put it on another?
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#594 [14:16] <TNT_Br> I bought minecraft online store by Mojang, been two days and so far has not arrived, purchased by credit card debt.
#595 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> Did you receive an email TNT_Br?
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#597 [14:19] <TNT_Br> Ja happened 2 days, how long more will it take? Grim_Reaper
#598 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> What did the email say?
#599 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> Did it say something along the lines of successful payment?
#600 [14:20] <TNT_Br> I have not received any yet
#601 [14:20] <TNT_Br> Yes
#602 [14:20] <TNT_Br> Yes
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#604 [14:21] <Grim_Reaper> I take it you've checked your spam folder?
#605 [14:21] <Grim_Reaper> Also which site did you buy the game from?
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#608 [14:22] <TNT_Br> Yes, it already looked, bought by Mojang same, but it also says nothing
#609 [14:22] <Grim_Reaper> Did you manage to create an account at all?
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#613 [14:23] <TNT_Br> No, I have yet to receive the email in order to create a minecraft account, so when I'm with the account of Mojang
#614 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> Alright
#615 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest calling your bank to see if the payment did go through
#616 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> If it did, you will need to email mojang
#617 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> ?? mojang/email
#618 [14:24] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#619 [14:25] <TNT_Br> Thanks, I'll send it now, thank you so much Grim and Voxel
#620 [14:26] <TNT_Br> ^^
#621 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> No problem. Hope you get to play soon =]
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#624 [14:27] <TNT_Br> Also hope. ;]
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#633 [14:45] <sarahkristiansen> I installed modloader yesterday so that my son could start using mods, and now minecraft won't open--I get a crash report! Help!
#634 [14:45] <sarahkristiansen> I also realize that the game is not updating to the newest version, either...
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#663 [15:19] <gorgumph> We downloaded the free trial version for kids, so parents could see what it's about. We bought the game so they could go online and play with friends. We have a Mojang acct and Minecraft acct and it says login failed every time. What's wrong?
#664 [15:21] <Morrolan> After you bought the game, and the payment went through, you should see a big green button when you sign in to https://account.mojang.com
#665 [15:21] <Morrolan> Clicking on that button should allow you to choose a Minecraft username.
#666 [15:21] <Morrolan> Once that has been taken care of, you should be able to sign in to the Minecraft client with e-mail address & password.
#667 [15:23] <gorgumph> Yes we did that. The kids chose Gorgumph as the name. It was accepted. Had a "congrats" window next. We clicked on a link to play. Tried login and didn't work. We tried the email and username. Every time it's Login failed. But we can sill play off line
#668 [15:25] <gorgumph> I tried to reinstall it also, through the verification email after buying it. Same thing. I went through some of the trouble shooting others have asked/posted about. I found one talking about the server, changing some things on the computer, did all that. Nothing.
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#685 [16:06] <ThalmicPaper> I am having trouble using mods. When I launch I get an error code of 2e06677d
#686 [16:07] <ThalmicPaper> What does this code mean?
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#695 [16:13] <mudpit> damn....
#696 [16:13] <mudpit> all server are from now on cheatserver
#697 [16:13] <mudpit> a new duplicate glitch exists...
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#711 [16:27] <mjf700> we bought minecraft for my daughter and she can't login to the game
#712 [16:27] <mattym> How did you purchase it?
#713 [16:27] <mattym> By that i mean what method of payment
#714 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> mjf700, what happens when you try?
#715 [16:28] <mjf700> \over the web with gift card
#716 [16:28] <Lutzee> A prepaid visa card?
#717 [16:29] <mjf700> she gets a message about an invalid login or password.
#718 [16:29] <LilLucy> mjf700 are you logging in with the email address and password?
#719 [16:30] <mjf700> This is her dad. We have tried logging in with her email and with my wife's because hers was used to place the order.
#720 [16:30] <LilLucy> Ok. Are you able to login at www.mojang.com at all with your account?
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#724 [16:31] <lolkingmatt> why cant i access the demo the screen is white
#725 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> lolkingmatt demo
#726 [16:32] <VoxelHead> lolkingmatt: (demo) You can access a demo version of minecraft, completely free of charge, by visiting http://www.minecraft.net/demo via your browser. The demo on the downloadable launcher has known problems.
#727 [16:32] <lolkingmatt> hey i want to try the demo before i play it the screen black's out and it wont load my friend said to go to here post the website i gave you for the suit thing or what ever but i dont know what to click on
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#730 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> lolkingmatt, you go to http://www.minecraft.net/demo
#731 [16:33] <Keith> he does that
#732 [16:33] <mjf700> i'm trying to verify that right now. I believe my wife's account works. I just want to reset the login and start over.
#733 [16:33] <Keith> im his friend he says it blacks or whites out?
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#735 [16:33] <Deriived> i keep lagging out of multiplayer servers and i get the same messagei nternal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutExeption: Read Timed out what does that mean
#736 [16:33] <Keith> i had a problwm with my minecraft it was the driver's
#737 [16:34] <mattym> Deriived That usually means that there is a problem with the connection between you and the server, can you try doing it with your firewall and antivirus turned off
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#739 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Keith, can you elaborate? What happens when you run the game?
#740 [16:35] <LilLucy> [23:33] <mjf700> i'm trying to verify that right now. I believe my wife's account works. I just want to reset the login and start over.
#741 [16:35] <mjf700> is there a support number i can call?
#742 [16:35] <LilLucy> You'll be able to do that if you can login to mojang's website
#743 [16:35] <LilLucy> Sadly there is no number
#744 [16:35] <Keith> no mine is fine i was talking about lolkingmatt.
#745 [16:35] <LilLucy> The only way to contact mojang is by emailing them which you can do here
#746 [16:35] <LilLucy> ?? mojang/email
#747 [16:35] <VoxelHead> mojang/email: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#748 [16:36] <mattym> Keith He probably either needs a graphics driver update or java update, possibly both
#749 [16:36] <mjf700> ok but it would be easier to just handle this with a phone call .
#750 [16:36] <Keith> he said it works
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#752 [16:36] <Keith> thanks for trying to help though
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#754 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> mjf700, Mojang is a swedish indie developer company with no dedicated customer services department
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#768 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> meep
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#774 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti, I changed my host and now I'm not sure how to tell VoxelHead
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#776 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> /msg VoxelHead ident
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#778 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, no response from him
#779 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#780 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, eh?
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#786 [17:22] <DisappointedKid> I just bought a second account so my son and I could play multiplayer, but can't login to open LAN world.
#787 [17:22] <DisappointedKid> Running 2 Macs on same wifi network.
#788 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you login?
#789 [17:22] <DisappointedKid> Thanks for responding. I can login to Minecraft on both machines, but when we open LAN on either machine, the other can't log in to it.
#790 [17:23] <DisappointedKid> The operation times out.
#791 [17:23] <DisappointedKid> Using 2 different Minecraft accounts.
#792 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm not a real big fan of the "Open to LAN" option. Could you try downloading the full dedicated server software at: http://www.minecraft.net/download ?
#793 [17:24] <DisappointedKid> (Sigh.) Okay. I'm on a Mac and read on the Minecraft wiki that it's complicated on a Mac.
#794 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> That way, you can run the server, then the client on the same computer, then connect to the server with your other computer to your first computer's LAN address
#795 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> It's not that difficult. I could walk you through it if you want.
#796 [17:24] <DisappointedKid> Hang tight, let me find the directions page again.
#797 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, I could also take control of your computer, do it remotely with your permission.
#798 [17:25] <lukegb> (You'll be able to see everything he does, and stop it at any time)
#799 [17:25] <DisappointedKid> The pink box on this page scares me a bit ... http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#800 [17:25] <DisappointedKid> ... but I'll give it a go anyway, and come back if I need hlep.
#801 [17:26] <DisappointedKid> Thank you for your time!
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#803 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> There is no need to open ports if you're... bah
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#806 [17:27] <Guest6882> Already registered used my gift card entered pin number how to p[lay ?????????????????????????????????
#807 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you have registered a minecraft profile in your mojang.com account
#808 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Then download the client from minecraft.net/download and launch it. You would then log in with your email address and password
#809 [17:28] <Guest6882> Yes we did just want to play the game
#810 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Then download the client from minecraft.net/download and launch it. You would then log in with your email address and password
#811 [17:29] <Guest6882> who is the client
#812 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The client is the launcher program you get from http://www.minecraft.net/download
#813 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> You would download minecraft.zip if you're on a mac, minecraft.exe if you're on windows, or minecraft.jar if you're on any flavor of linux
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#837 [17:44] <nighthawk__> hi
#838 [17:44] <lolkingmatt> thx 2 who ever helped me b4
#839 [17:44] <lolkingmatt> it worked
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#844 [17:46] <hiaimanewby> stfu i sing
#845 [17:46] <hiaimanewby> stfu i sing'
#846 [17:46] <hiaimanewby> stfu i sing'
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#848 [17:46] <hiaimanewby> stfu i sing' yeaya
#849 [17:47] <hiaimanewby> .
#850 [17:47] <hiaimanewby> .
#851 [17:47] <hiaimanewby> .
#852 [17:47] <hiaimanewby> .
#853 [17:47] <hiaimanewby> .
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#858 [17:49] <lolkingmatt> hello?'
#859 [17:50] <cestislife> Hello.
#860 [17:50] <Mikko_blu> Hai there
#861 [17:50] <lolkingmatt> hehe
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#863 [17:50] <lolkingmatt> guys would u let me spam or no
#864 [17:50] <cestislife> Nope.
#865 [17:50] <FLHerne> Hoyo, internet-people :P
#866 [17:50] <Lord_Ralex> Does it look like it
#867 [17:51] <FLHerne> And no, no spamming. Inane semi-on-topic mutterings seem to be discouraged, too :-(
#868 [17:51] <lolkingmatt> :(
#869 [17:52] <Lord_Ralex> It should have been obvious when you tried earlier
#870 [17:52] <lolkingmatt> fine jerk i wont spam ima king efterall and ikr i did erlier
#871 [17:52] <lolkingmatt> afterall
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#877 [18:02] <Dalton> When I try to connect to server, it says "Failed to connect. Connection Refused: Connect"
#878 [18:02] <Dalton> Any way to fix that?
#879 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Then either you're putting in the wrong IP, or the server is not running
#880 [18:03] <FLHerne> Dalton: Whatserver?
#881 [18:03] <Dalton> Well it's not working for tons on my list of servers
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#883 [18:03] <Dalton> Few servers have the problem but most of them do
#884 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Give us examples of some servers you're trying
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#886 [18:05] <Dalton> Is in the name of them or the IP, or the type of server
#887 [18:05] <katie_> I didn't recieve my email to set my minecraft username what do i do?
#888 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Dalton - The IP
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#890 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> katie_ - Log into your Mojang.com account, You should see Minecraft listed under "My Games", along with a link to create a minecraft profile
#891 [18:06] <Dalton> 199.241.138.54:25628 is the one I'm trying to connect to
#892 [18:06] <katie_> minecraft is not listed under my games yet i recieved a purchase confimation
#893 [18:07] <mattym> katie_ was the confirmation just on the web page, or have you still not recieved an email?
#894 [18:08] <katie_> was on the webpage no email
#895 [18:08] <mattym> did you pay by credit card?
#896 [18:08] <katie_> yes
#897 [18:09] <mattym> double check to make sure you were charged, sometimes you can get to the confirmation web page, but the purchase still hasnt been completed
#898 [18:10] <mattym> If you were charged, wait on the email, if you werent charged double check with the credit card company about their policy regarding international purchases
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#900 [18:12] <Dalton> When I try to connect to server, it says "Failed to connect. Connection Refused: Connect"
#901 [18:12] <Dalton> 199.241.138.54:25628 is the server I'm trying to connect to
#902 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> !check 199.241.138.54:25628
#903 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> There is no server running at that ip address
#904 [18:13] <mattym|away> No server, and that port is closed
#905 [18:14] <Dalton> 199.241.138.54:25628
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#908 [18:15] <Dalton> I've played on the server for months now, so it should exist...
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#910 [18:15] <GamerDude1213> When I type in ALL my infomation, and I click "Play in Browser"\, the screen comes on, then it goes off EVERYTIME. Can I have some help?
#911 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Dalton - It does not currently exist or run
#912 [18:16] <Dalton> Could it be a result if the server shut down?
#913 [18:16] <GamerDude1213> No.
#914 [18:16] <GamerDude1213> No servers shut down for me.
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#917 [18:17] <GamerDude1213> Can you help?
#918 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Dalton - Yes.
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#921 [18:17] <GamerDude1213> Can anybody help me please?
#922 [18:18] <GamerDude1213> I have brought Minecraft and everything.
#923 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> GamerDude1213 - What do you mean by, "it goes off"?
#924 [18:18] <GamerDude1213> Well,
#925 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Does a java applet pop up in the page? Does java ask to be run?
#926 [18:18] <GamerDude1213> It like shows stone.
#927 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall java
#928 [18:18] <GamerDude1213> Like from Minecraft.
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#930 [18:19] <GamerDude1213> There is like help commuity and everything at the top, and just STONE looking stuff is there.
#931 [18:19] <GamerDude1213> Reinstall Java? Ok.
#932 [18:19] <GamerDude1213> Thanx 4 everything
#933 [18:19] <GamerDude1213> bye
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#943 [18:28] <andy_> when i try to launch minecraft, it just gives me white screen
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#946 [18:29] <andy_> what is the fix for that?
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#949 [18:30] <NinjaKirby> saywat, I thought Blackscreen was the traditional screen. Sounds like Mojang are spicing things up a bit, what a fantastic workaround. Can't wait for the crash report.
#950 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> In fact, I demand a screenshot of the White Screen.
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#953 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Possibly with the browser applet, instead of the downloadable one
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#957 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> I do hope Andy Underscore returns
#958 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> On the in-browser version, a white box will appear if the java applet has an issue.
#959 [18:32] <NinjaKirby> Oh, my excitation was obliterated by your informative reponse
#960 [18:33] <coolcow58> I keep getting severe lag issues after playing on a server for about 10 minutes. It becomes completely unplayable and, being a tournament pvper, this can cause a problem. help?
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#975 [19:01] <Extreme_Gui2013> My Minecraft is stopping with this mesage: Java(TM) platform SE binary has stopped working, what I need to do ?
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#991 [19:32] <Explo> im trying to install minecraft forge and i dont know how, help plz?
#992 [19:34] <Explo> hello?
#993 [19:34] <Lord_Ralex> Explo, we don't assist with mods here
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#995 [19:35] <mattym|away> Do these people even try to read?
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#1016 [20:26] <Gss> test
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#1018 [20:27] <Gss> I have just tried to install and run Minecraft demo on brand new iMac, received black screen upon start up. Where should I got to post crash report and get assistance?
#1019 [20:27] <Lord_Ralex> Gss, do you have the crash report or do you need to get it as well?
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#1021 [20:28] <Gss> I have in txt file, or maybe I can post inthis text box?
#1022 [20:28] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Gss pastebin
#1023 [20:28] <VoxelHead> Gss: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1024 [20:28] <Lord_Ralex> Use that and paste the link it takes you to here
#1025 [20:28] <Gss> ok, will do...
#1026 [20:30] <Gss> here it is http://pastebin.com/djTNqhVC
#1027 [20:31] <Lord_Ralex> one sec
#1028 [20:32] <Lord_Ralex> Ehh, Macs make it difficult
#1029 [20:32] <Lord_Ralex> One of the libraries the game uses does not work well on Macs that have Java 7 installed
#1030 [20:33] <Gss> ok, so should uninstall 7 and use 6?
#1031 [20:33] <Lord_Ralex> If you can, yes
#1032 [20:33] <Lord_Ralex> Not sure if it is easy though, don't have a mac, and people suggested it was hard cause of how apple is
#1033 [20:35] <mattym> Gss this site has links for the best Java option based on what version of OSX you have, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101/#entry8508704
#1034 [20:37] <Gss> Found this http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1035 [20:37] <Gss> It says 6 is already installed. I hadn't realised this and installed 7 off Java site
#1036 [20:37] <Gss> will remove 7 and try again...
#1037 [20:37] <Lord_Ralex> Lwjgl has issues on Macs with Java 7, so you can either use JAva 6 or see if the dev versions of lwjgl work
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#1040 [20:38] <Gss> where do i find the dev versions of lwjgl?
#1041 [20:39] <Lord_Ralex> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6gj27dmoyo0h0j/macosx.zip
#1042 [20:39] <Lord_Ralex> i would also at least update lwjgl to the latest version before using that
#1043 [20:39] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Gss java/lwjgl
#1044 [20:39] <VoxelHead> Gss: (java/lwjgl) See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL for a guide on manually updating to a new version of LWJGL.
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#1046 [20:41] <Gss> Thanks.
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#1052 [20:45] <Gss> Do you know about Apple stopping Java on their machines and does this affect minecraft? http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/apple-blocks-java-on-macs-over-security-flaws-20130201-2dodi.html
#1053 [20:46] <mattym> yeah, thats why Java7 doesnt work "out of the box"
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#1055 [20:47] <mattym> If the lwjgl dev build doesnt work for you on Java 7, best bet is to get rid of it and go with Java 6
#1056 [20:48] <Gss> ok, but wont the block that apple has put in stop that too?
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#1058 [20:49] <mattym> no, all that block means is that they are not auto updating to that version
#1059 [20:49] <Gss> ok thanks
#1060 [20:49] <Lord_Ralex> afaik they only blocked it running on browsers
#1061 [20:49] <Lord_Ralex> so if you run the downloadable version, it should be just fine
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#1066 [21:01] <JessiLeighish> My stuff disappeared after it rightafter it droped, will this continue to happen? I mined awhile to get what disappeared.
#1067 [21:03] <mattym> What do you mean after it dropped?
#1068 [21:03] <JessiLeighish> I broke a chest open to move it and organize the stuff and i placed another, turned around and it ws all gone.
#1069 [21:04] <mattym> That usually doesnt happen, you may have just been very unlucky
#1070 [21:05] <skymoy> did you pick it all up?
#1071 [21:05] <JessiLeighish> yeah very very, had a bad run in with lava after i found diamonds...twice...today is not my minecraft day
#1072 [21:06] <mattym> you didnt log in and out between breaking the chest did you?
#1073 [21:06] <JessiLeighish> no i turned around and checked every where, even under my house it is just gone
#1074 [21:07] <JessiLeighish> nope was standing right next to it putting other stuff away, it was all my good minning stuff too
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#1077 [21:07] <mattym> Was this on a server?
#1078 [21:07] <JessiLeighish> no
#1079 [21:08] <mattym> cheat it all back in
#1080 [21:08] <JessiLeighish> lols
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#1082 [21:08] <mattym> are you using any mods?
#1083 [21:09] <JessiLeighish> no I got my account not even a month ago
#1084 [21:09] <mattym> ok, yeah that normally shouldnt happen but as with any program, nothing works right 100% of the time
#1085 [21:10] <JessiLeighish> up to today never had a issue just not my day
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#1087 [21:13] <Trel> I have a question about world generation. How many chunks past a player does it generate terrain in?
#1088 [21:14] <mattym> Generate or load
#1089 [21:14] <Trel> generate
#1090 [21:14] <mattym> I want to say 9
#1091 [21:15] <Trel> in any direction, right?
#1092 [21:15] <mattym> yeah
#1093 [21:15] <Trel> kk thanks
#1094 [21:15] <mattym> but thats based off something i read a long time back
#1095 [21:15] <mattym> the wiki should have that info
#1096 [21:17] <mattym> cause i know the far render distance setting makes it more now.
#1097 [21:17] <Lutzee> Far render loads 265blocks which is a 16 chunk radius
#1098 [21:17] <mattym> Yeah, but does the game "generate" further than that?
#1099 [21:18] <Lutzee> dropping it down to normal will drop the loaded range to 128 blocks where it stays for short and tiny too
#1100 [21:18] <Trel> I'll test it each way.
#1101 [21:18] <Lutzee> It creates what it renders
#1102 [21:18] <Trel> I'm making a "sky" world on a server and I don't want any visible terrain
#1103 [21:18] <Trel> need to know how many blank chunks to generate past the boundaries
#1104 [21:19] <Lutzee> Will this be a vanilla unmodded server or bukkit?
#1105 [21:19] <Lutzee> I know there are bukkit plugins available that will prevent chunk generation no matter how far out you go
#1106 [21:20] <Trel> Either, but if you know the bukkit plugin, I'd definitely be interested in it to "archive" my older worlds.
#1107 [21:21] <Lutzee> Not sure on any specifics but they are out there
#1108 [21:21] <Lutzee> you could ask in #bukkit they will probably have a better idea
#1109 [21:23] <Trel> I'll do so, many thanks.
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#1119 [21:42] <d11> Hi all, I have the problem that I cant save my world on my own local server. I guess its because I started xray app and accessed the world simultaneously. now its says: [WARNING] The save is being accessed from another location, aborting. Is there a way I can tell the server to save it to a different location or ignore the lock? I really dont want to loose all my changes.
#1120 [21:43] <d11> The command /save-all returns: Saving failed: The save is being accessed from another location, aborting
#1121 [21:43] <mattym> We dont really support mods in this channel
#1122 [21:43] <d11> I dont have any mods installed..
#1123 [21:43] <Wug> guess you shouldn't use xrays
#1124 [21:44] <mattym> xray counts, its not something included in the game, so we really cant assume how it will interact with it
#1125 [21:44] <d11> guess so.. so any idea how to make the server save the files elsewhere?
#1126 [21:44] <Wug> not sure you can without a huge amount of effort
#1127 [21:44] <mattym> no while its running
#1128 [21:44] <d11> while it is running.. or another way to backup the info while it is running
#1129 [21:44] <Wug> you were going to use xray, why don't you just spawn yourself stuff to fix it
#1130 [21:44] <Wug> its basically the same thing.
#1131 [21:45] <d11> damn
#1132 [21:45] <d11> I used xray because I found 10 emeralds and 0 diamonds.. and wanted to check if the map loaded alright.. turn out I just had heaps of bad luck.. and seems that that continued now
#1133 [21:46] <mattym> you said app, are you on a Mac?
#1134 [21:47] <Wug> they all have diamonds
#1135 [21:47] <d11> Would it help to correct the session lock?
#1136 [21:47] <Wug> you could try but im not 100% sure what you'd set it to.
#1137 [21:47] <d11> Im on win7 sorry for the "app"
#1138 [21:47] <Wug> I never learned how the session lock works
#1139 [21:48] <Wug> though, I think it's just set to the 'last accessed' timestamp of some part of the world... not sure which though.
#1140 [21:48] <mattym> d11 if you open up your Task Manager, kill anything related to the xray, it should stop accessing it
#1141 [21:49] <d11> I tried that.. found nothing related to it
#1142 [21:50] <mattym> and i wouldnt recommend editing anything in the world save folder while its still running
#1143 [21:51] <Wug> d11: you'll probably only lose a few minutes of work at most
#1144 [21:51] <Wug> minecraft saves incrementally
#1145 [21:51] <d11> I would lose about 2 hours..
#1146 [21:52] <mattym> if any, ive had that error on the console and still had a perfect save, but thats not a quarantee
#1147 [21:52] <d11> It was not able to save for the last two hours
#1148 [21:52] <d11> Ok.. I guess thats just the way it is.. thanks for the ideas
#1149 [21:53] <d11> I really dont know how the server gets the information that it is being accessed
#1150 [21:53] <mattym> did i just spell that with a q?
#1151 [21:53] <d11> through windows?
#1152 [21:53] <d11> didnt even notice ;)
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#1155 [21:57] <ssok> hi!
#1156 [21:57] <ssok> anyone have a contact email for mojang? I can't login to my old minecraft account for the life of me
#1157 [21:58] <mattym> No email, there is a form
#1158 [21:58] <mattym> ??> ssok mojang/email
#1159 [21:58] <VoxelHead> ssok: (mojang/email) You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1160 [21:58] <mattym> But keep in mind that system had a huge backlog
#1161 [21:58] <ssok> Thanks guys! I appreciate it. I'm aware of the backlog
#1162 [21:58] <mattym> Did you ever migrate your account from minecraft to mojang?
#1163 [21:59] <ssok> I did not. I just created a new mojang account but no dice
#1164 [21:59] <ssok> I bought a minecraft account back when it was $10 or $15 USD for life, and none of my credidentials work any longer
#1165 [21:59] <ssok> I really, really hope I don't have to buy anything again
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#1167 [21:59] <mattym> do you remember the email you used when you purchased it?
#1168 [22:00] <ssok> I thought so, but it didn't work.
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#1170 [22:00] <mattym> do you use many other emails?
#1171 [22:00] <mattym> you can always try them all
#1172 [22:01] <Lyss> If I use a seed does my house go to
#1173 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1174 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> The seed only generates the fresh, unmodified world that you see.
#1175 [22:01] <ssok> unfortunately the only emails I have used in the past few years dont work
#1176 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Any changes afterwards do not reflect in the seed value.
#1177 [22:02] <mattym> ssok Do you have your origional email with the purchase info
#1178 [22:02] <Lyss> I built a world on pe and got a new phone and I want all of it on my new phone
#1179 [22:02] <mattym> Lyss is it iOS or Android?
#1180 [22:03] <Lyss> Iso
#1181 [22:03] <mattym> dam, im not sure how to do it on that one.
#1182 [22:03] <mattym> ssok if you do, fill out that email form
#1183 [22:04] <Lyss> Does anyone know how
#1184 [22:04] <mattym> Does the old phone still work?
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#1186 [22:04] <Lyss> Yes
#1187 [22:05] <ssok> I believe I have the email address that I signed up with, but for some reason mojang doesn't recognize it. I am hoping that they recognize my username still
#1188 [22:06] <Lyss> Yes the phone works
#1189 [22:06] <mattym> ssok, your gonna need the origional email from them in order to get your transaction ID, thats the only way to proove ownership
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#1191 [22:06] <Lyss> Me
#1192 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Lyss - See: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1592634-need-some-help-from-you-experts-a-iphone-to-iphone-transfer-question/#entry19925310
#1193 [22:07] <ssok> I never had a transaction ID, since I never migrated my account
#1194 [22:07] <mattym> nor did i, i still have one
#1195 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Lyss - Also, looks like if you can set up a multiplayer connection on the first world, you can connect with the second phone and copy the world over.
#1196 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> But I'm not sure about that. I don't run an iOS device myself, nor do I have the PE version of minecraft
#1197 [22:08] <Lyss> What
#1198 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Lyss - either you can try hosting a multiplayer connection on the first phone, then connect to that server with your new phone and hitting "menu" -> "Copy world"
#1199 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Or you can try that iFunBox app to access your iOS device and copying the files over to your computer, and back to your new iOS device
#1200 [22:10] <mattym> ssok, i purchased it before they moved over to the mojang accounts as well, but my purchase info still came with a transaction id
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#1203 [22:10] <ssok> I'm searching through my old paypal stuff. Do you know what it would show up as?
#1204 [22:11] <ssok> like paid to Minecraft, Mojang, or Notch etc?
#1205 [22:11] <mattym> the email should have come from something like "noreply@minecraft.net"
#1206 [22:11] <xales> ssok: Log in to your Paypal account and find the transaction - it will be listed in the transaction details.
#1207 [22:11] <ssok> HAH
#1208 [22:11] <xales> Paypal saves transaction history forever.
#1209 [22:11] <ssok> MOJANG AB
#1210 [22:11] <xales> AFAIK
#1211 [22:11] <ssok> Found it!
#1212 [22:11] <ssok> Thanks!
#1213 [22:12] <xales> np
#1214 [22:13] <ssok> Okay, newb moment here. I have my transaction ID, now what?
#1215 [22:13] <mattym> that link i gave you for contacting mojang
#1216 [22:13] <mattym> take that and the rest of your info and fill it out
#1217 [22:14] <mattym> they will eventually get to it
#1218 [22:14] <ssok> so there is no way to use my transaction ID to get into my account? rats.
#1219 [22:16] <mattym> no, its just proof that you own the account when contacting them
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#1221 [22:20] <ssok> Well, I sent them an email. They said that they're on emails sent January 22nd, so in about a month I'll have my account back. Thanks!
#1222 [22:21] <mattym> They were on the 18th yesterday
#1223 [22:22] <ssok> Four days of emails in one day? not bad
#1224 [22:22] <mattym> hopefully it keeps up
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#1228 [22:27] <Dillman> anybody know how to fix an OpenGL context that apparently doesn't exist?
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#1230 [22:28] <killer_> how do you downlod the minecraft launcher
#1231 [22:28] <mattym> Dillman are you getting this in a crash report?
#1232 [22:28] <mattym> killer_ are you on a Mac or Windows?
#1233 [22:28] <killer_> windows
#1234 [22:28] <mattym> killer_ http://minecraft.net/download
#1235 [22:29] <Dillman> yes, and my graphics card is fully updated
#1236 [22:29] <mattym> and dont use Internet Explorer
#1237 [22:29] <mattym> Dillman can you paste the crash report to a pastebin
#1238 [22:29] <mattym> ??> Dillman pastebin
#1239 [22:29] <VoxelHead> Dillman: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1240 [22:30] <killer_> now what do i do
#1241 [22:30] <mattym> run the launcher
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#1243 [22:31] <Dillman> http://pastebin.com/Kc59U11u
#1244 [22:31] <sprocket> ok im getting the minecraft fatal error 4 null message
#1245 [22:31] <killer_> now what
#1246 [22:32] <mattym> killer_ Have you purchased the game yet?
#1247 [22:32] <Wug> Dillman: try force updating?
#1248 [22:32] <killer_> yea
#1249 [22:32] <sprocket> yes
#1250 [22:32] <Wug> and if that doesnt work, do a dxdiag and pastebin it
#1251 [22:32] <mattym> killer_ enter your info and play
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#1253 [22:33] <sprocket> i tried the force update andthat didnt work
#1254 [22:33] <mattym> sprocket What OS are you on
#1255 [22:33] <killer_> but i mean like the program
#1256 [22:33] <sprocket> windows
#1257 [22:33] <Dillman> force updating? you mean straight from Intel? (I have a G41 Express Chipset)
#1258 [22:33] <mattym> sprocket are you up to date on java?
#1259 [22:33] <Wug> Dillman: no, minecraft force updating
#1260 [22:33] <Wug> its an option in the launcher
#1261 [22:33] <Dillman> how?
#1262 [22:34] <Wug> options -> force update
#1263 [22:34] <mattym> ??> Dillman forceupdate
#1264 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Dillman: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1265 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Dillman: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1266 [22:34] <sprocket> yeah and i tried force updating that didnt work
#1267 [22:34] <mattym> sprocket are you up to date on Java?
#1268 [22:34] <killer_> how do i download the minecraft launcher the program
#1269 [22:34] <sprocket> i am on java
#1270 [22:34] <killer_> how do i download the minecraft launcher the program
#1271 [22:35] <mattym> i already told you the website
#1272 [22:35] <lucastars> Hi, I'm crashing and getting an OpenGL message "lost connection" basically I'm starting up minecraft walking around for about 10 seconds and then crash and get a pop up which links me to http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3007 so I used http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1383256-advanced-minecraft-error-test/ and the error log ends up being http://pastebin.com/v9vqrsMs which says nothing about the crash
#1273 [22:35] <killer_> but it doesnt get the program
#1274 [22:35] <mattym> killer_ are you using Internet Explorer?
#1275 [22:35] <Dillman> force update was no help
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#1277 [22:36] <killer_> yea y
#1278 [22:36] <Wug> Dillman: dxdiag then
#1279 [22:36] <Wug> man I really shouldn't be here, I have work to do. sorry guys, im out
#1280 [22:36] <mattym> killer_ try downloading it with a different Browser
#1281 [22:36] <Wug> ding xales, he's here.
#1282 [22:36] <mattym> i got them
#1283 [22:36] <Wug> <trollface>
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#1285 [22:37] <mattym> lucastars give me one moment
#1286 [22:37] <sprocket> still have error after force updating
#1287 [22:37] <Dillman> http://pastebin.com/Q7nKsCrc
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#1289 [22:37] <Dillman> my dxdiag
#1290 [22:37] <Dillman> ^
#1291 [22:38] <mattym> sprocket are you on the latest version of Java?
#1292 [22:38] <sprocket> yes i just looked
#1293 [22:38] <mattym> what is it
#1294 [22:39] <sprocket> one sec
#1295 [22:39] <mattym> Dillman are you using two monitors?
#1296 [22:39] <Dillman> no
#1297 [22:40] <mattym> lucastars does minecraft give its own crash log, can you pastebin that
#1298 [22:40] <lucastars> it does not
#1299 [22:41] <lucastars> thats why i used the advanced minecraft error test log thing or whatever
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#1301 [22:41] <mattym> yeah im gonna get you another one that will get me better info, one second for hte link
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#1303 [22:42] <mattym> lucastars try one of the methods here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1304 [22:42] <beast4877> Minecraft used to work on Win7 64 bit OS. Not sure what changed, but Minecraft.exe launches with prompt to login. Next = MOJANG launches, and black DOS looking window appears. Updated Java, etc. Any ideas how to get this working again?
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#1306 [22:43] <mattym> beast4877 did you install mods?
#1307 [22:43] <beast4877> Which mods?
#1308 [22:43] <mattym> any
#1309 [22:44] <beast4877> Not sure what you mean.
#1310 [22:44] <mattym> ok then probably not
#1311 [22:44] <beast4877> Can you instruct me how to do that?
#1312 [22:44] <mattym> ??> beast4877 forceupdate
#1313 [22:44] <VoxelHead> beast4877: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1314 [22:44] <VoxelHead> beast4877: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft. See http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png for visual instructions.
#1315 [22:44] <mattym> beast4877 try that ^
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#1317 [22:45] <beast4877> Already set "Force Update!". No change. Also attempted to download minecraft.exe again in case it was corrupted.
#1318 [22:45] <mattym> Dillman did you have the minecraft crash log?
#1319 [22:45] <Dillman> yeah, it's up there ^
#1320 [22:45] <sprocket> my java is version 7 update 13
#1321 [22:46] <xales> Dillman: You might be able to play in your browser: http://minecraft.net/play
#1322 [22:46] <Dillman> uh, minecraft.net is down
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#1325 [22:47] <beast4877> where can I find the crash log? nothing is logged in event viewer
#1326 [22:47] <xales> Dillman: It's working fine for me.
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#1329 [22:48] <mattym> beast4877 http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1330 [22:48] <lucastars> well this is awkward....
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#1332 [22:48] <sprocket> i have the latest java
#1333 [22:48] <sprocket> and still givesme fatal error
#1334 [22:48] <lucastars> those logs give even just basically the same thing lol
#1335 [22:48] <lucastars> for my problem that is
#1336 [22:48] <mattym> sprocket is it still error 4?
#1337 [22:48] <sprocket> yes
#1338 [22:49] <mattym> lucastars your graphics cards and drivers should support it without any problem, is there any chance you turned off OpenGl support?
#1339 [22:50] <lucastars> where do I check that? I never mess with my settings except to setup SLI
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#1342 [22:50] <xales> sprocket: Do you know how to find the Application Data folder?
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#1344 [22:51] <sprocket> i do not
#1345 [22:52] <Dillman> minecraft.net is supposedly overloaded according to Chrome
#1346 [22:52] <mattym> lucastars check this out http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/369452-33-black-screen-system-crash-minecraft-570s
#1347 [22:52] <xales> ??> sprocket win/.minecraft
#1348 [22:52] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1349 [22:53] <lucastars> I don't get that mine just blacks out comes back pops up with nvidia open gl timeout error 7 and then sends me to http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3007
#1350 [22:55] <xales> lucastars: Are you using a laptop?
#1351 [22:55] <mattym> Dillman is it possible that you are having internet issues?
#1352 [22:55] <lucastars> desktop
#1353 [22:55] <beast4877> Thanks, mattym! I created and ran the batch file. Attempted to login to Minecraft.exe again (black window after MOJANG). Log file was created, but no text.
#1354 [22:55] <xales> lucastars: What GPU do you have?
#1355 [22:55] <Dillman> no
#1356 [22:55] <xales> Dillman: Try restarting your computer (or just clearing DNS cache, if you know how to do that)
#1357 [22:55] <lucastars> EVGA GTX 570 HD Superclocked (x2) in SLI
#1358 [22:55] <Dillman> DNS cache?
#1359 [22:56] <xales> Dillman: If you don't know what that means just restart your computer
#1360 [22:56] <mattym> beast4877 Have you tried both methods?
#1361 [22:56] <xales> lucastars: Do you play any other video games (that aren't 2D)?
#1362 [22:56] <lucastars> yes plenty
#1363 [22:56] <Dillman> I'm not worried about getting minecraft.net to work, I just need to know how to fix "No OpenGL context found in the current thread"
#1364 [22:57] <xales> Dillman: The problem is that your graphics card is very old, and even when it was new, was *never* intended for gaming. Or even really rendering 3D things.
#1365 [22:57] <sprocket> ok it pulled up a folder what do i do now
#1366 [22:57] <xales> It...might...be possible to get it to work, but even then, Minecraft will run very slowly
#1367 [22:57] <lucastars> cod:bo2 + starcraft 2 + diablo 3 + battlefield 3 + Crysis 2
#1368 [22:57] <xales> sprocket: Find the folder called ".minecraft" and rename it to "oldminecraft"
#1369 [22:58] <xales> lucastars: Have you tweaked any settings in the Nvidia control panel?
#1370 [22:58] <lucastars> nope
#1371 [22:58] <mattym> lucastars does nvidia allow you to turn SLI off and on through software?
#1372 [22:58] <lucastars> only to setup SLI
#1373 [22:58] <lucastars> just through control panel
#1374 [22:58] <Dillman> well it used to work when I ran fast graphics, and I even ran texture packs like Jolicraft and Summerfields
#1375 [22:58] <mattym> lucastars try turning it off
#1376 [22:58] <xales> Dillman: What made it stop working...?
#1377 [22:58] <Dillman> IDK
#1378 [22:58] <xales> Things don't just stop working on their own.
#1379 [22:58] <Dillman> sry, caps lok
#1380 [22:58] <mattym> Dillman is it only crashing on one world, or anything you try to load
#1381 [22:59] <lucastars> brb its asking me to close chrome
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#1383 [22:59] <sprocket> ok i renamed it
#1384 [22:59] <Dillman> when I log in, it gives me Mojang, few seconds of black, then crash
#1385 [22:59] <xales> sprocket: Try running Minecraft now.
#1386 [22:59] <mattym> Dillman one moment please
#1387 [23:00] <Dillman> kk
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#1389 [23:01] <xales> Dillman: Download this: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat and try using it to launch Minecraft.
#1390 [23:01] <mattym> xales do you know if lwjgl still has that issue in version 2.8.5?
#1391 [23:01] <xales> it's not lwjgl, it's the GPU
#1392 [23:01] <sprocket> i ran it and i tried updating it and it stopped at _Natives.jar.Izma to windows_natives.jar
#1393 [23:01] <xales> sprocket: Disable your antivirus/firewall software, or add Minecraft as an exception; it is blocking the download.
#1394 [23:02] <beast4877> mattym: when using option 1 to gather logs, "The system cannot find the path specified."
#1395 [23:02] <Dillman> my browser is telling me this download could be dangerous...?
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#1397 [23:02] <xales> Dillman: It will say that for anything you download that is allowed to run a program on your computer.
#1398 [23:02] <lucastars> ok....so there is something wrong with my SLI? cuz I haven't crashed and i'm still going
#1399 [23:02] <xales> Dillman: In this case, what it runs it Minecraft.
#1400 [23:02] <xales> lucastars: It's probably a Minecraft-specific problem or LWJGL-specific problem.
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#1402 [23:03] <lucastars> oh
#1403 [23:03] <xales> Actually, by "probably" I mean "almost guaranteed to be"
#1404 [23:03] <Dillman> still crashed
#1405 [23:03] <lucastars> so then I guess if I want to play Minecraft I have to disable SLI?
#1406 [23:03] <sprocket> it still gives me the _Natives.jar.Izma to windows_natives.jar where it freezes
#1407 [23:04] <mattym> lucastars minecraft doesnt make use of it anyway, and seems to have issues with it so for now yeah
#1408 [23:04] <xales> sprocket: You /completely/ disabled all antivirus/firewall programs on your computer?
#1409 [23:04] <xales> Dillman: Probably not a whole lot you can do then - your card is below the posted Minimum Requirements, so you can't really expect it to work.
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#1411 [23:04] <mattym> beast4877 you said you tried to redownload the launcher already right?
#1412 [23:04] <Dillman> ok, thanks then, good to know
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#1414 [23:05] <beast4877> mattym: yes, I did. completely removed java and reinstalled.
#1415 [23:05] <lucastars> well thanks for the help
#1416 [23:06] <beast4877> mattym: (in addition to downloading minecraft again)
#1417 [23:06] <xales> beast4877: Do you know your Minecraft profile username?
#1418 [23:06] <portlandplease> Hey guys. Newbie here just downloaded the mac osx version. I have 10.7.5/Macbook Pro . When i click on Minecraft, the icon just keeps bouncing in my app tray but never opens. I don't know what to do now
#1419 [23:06] <beast4877> mattym: beast4877
#1420 [23:06] <xales> portlandplease: One moment
#1421 [23:07] <portlandplease> cool thanks
#1422 [23:07] <sprocket> i think i did firewall is off and i only have malware bytes and windows defender but they dont block it do they?
#1423 [23:07] * Steve[work]|away is now known as Steve[work]
#1424 [23:07] <mattym> !paid beast4877
#1425 [23:07] <xales> sprocket: What program did you disable?
#1426 [23:08] <beast4877> mattym: yes, we paid
#1427 [23:08] <xales> portlandplease: Have you tried force-quitting it and running it again?
#1428 [23:08] <sprocket> what do you mean?
#1429 [23:08] <xales> sprocket: Are Windows Defender and MalwareBytes the only two antivirus/firewall programs you have?
#1430 [23:09] <mattym> beast4877 have you tried to reboot your computer?
#1431 [23:09] <beast4877> mattym: yes, many times. this has been going on for over a month now.
#1432 [23:09] <xales> beast4877: Have you tried reinstalling Java?
#1433 [23:09] <portlandplease> Yes. I also tried to uninstall and reinstall. I usually just drag my apps in trash to delete. Don't know if thats how its SUPPOSED to be done but....yea. So i reinstall and restart blah blah so on.
#1434 [23:10] <mattym> beast4877 can you do the following for us
#1435 [23:10] <beast4877> xales: yes, completely removed and reinstalled java (twice)
#1436 [23:10] <mattym> ??> win/dxdiag
#1437 [23:10] <sprocket> norton but its disabled and the other windows one
#1438 [23:10] <mattym> ??> beast4877 win/dxdiag
#1439 [23:10] <VoxelHead> beast4877: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1440 [23:10] <VoxelHead> beast4877: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#1441 [23:10] <xales> sprocket: Are you sure Norton is completely disabled? Also, the problem may be that you have three (more than 1 causes problems) antivirus programs. You should probably disable Windows Defender and completely uninstall Norton.
#1442 [23:10] * Steve[work] is now known as Steve[work]|away
#1443 [23:11] <xales> portlandplease: Go here and click the small "Show all platforms" button, then download the version of Minecraft for "Linux/Other": http://minecraft.net/download
#1444 [23:11] * Steve[work]|away is now known as Steve[work]
#1445 [23:11] <portlandplease> Uninstall current one first?
#1446 [23:14] <xales> It doesn't matter.
#1447 [23:14] <sprocket> how do i disable windows defender
#1448 [23:14] <xales> sprocket: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+windows+defender
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#1451 [23:14] <cheese> hi
#1452 [23:15] <xales> Hello.
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#1454 [23:15] <cheese> are there going to be like amazing builds its a pretty important accosion for minecraft?
#1455 [23:15] <xales> Uh, what?
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#1457 [23:16] <cheese> fo rhte marathon
#1458 [23:16] <portlandplease> Alright cool. so is this the same as the download i received in the email?
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#1460 [23:16] <cheese> for the marathon?
#1461 [23:16] * SinZ|offline is now known as SinZ
#1462 [23:16] <xales> portlandplease: Yes - it's just a different way of launching it.
#1463 [23:16] <xales> cheese: This channel is for assistance running (and to an extent, playing) Minecraft.
#1464 [23:17] <cheese> whats the server ip?
#1465 [23:17] <portlandplease> Word thanks
#1466 [23:17] <xales> Nobody here has anything to do with Minecraft Marathon.
#1467 [23:17] <sprocket> ok it still does it :/
#1468 [23:17] <xales> sprocket: Did you try uninstalling Norton?
#1469 [23:17] <cheese> oh ok thanks xales
#1470 [23:17] <sprocket> i did but i havent restarted yet
#1471 [23:17] <xales> You need to do that.
#1472 [23:17] <xales> cheese: Neither, for that matter, does Mojang. It's not an official event.
#1473 [23:18] <sprocket> ok ill try and be back probably
#1474 [23:18] <sprocket> ok ill try and be back probably
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#1476 [23:18] <xales> There is no try, only do and do not.
#1477 [23:20] * Lord_Ralex gets Yoda
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#1478 [23:21] <beast4877> voxelhead: http://pastebin.com/iJRnmrF2
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#1480 [23:21] <xales> ??> beast4877 gpu/amd
#1481 [23:21] <VoxelHead> beast4877: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1482 [23:22] <mattym> i dont think the auto detect will work well for those let me try and find a direct link
#1483 [23:22] <Lord_Ralex> amd's auto detect is not bad
#1484 [23:22] <portlandplease> Back again lol. When I login it to the Minecraft for linux/other it says Minecraft crashed. wamp wamp
#1485 [23:22] <xales> portlandplease: Is there an error report (possibly in the same folder you have the minecraft.jar file in)
#1486 [23:22] <beast4877> I've already checked - all drivers seem to be up to date.
#1487 [23:23] <mattym> Lord_Ralex that series of GPU's have usually been getting issues lately
#1488 [23:23] <xales> beast4877: How did you check?
#1489 [23:23] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, you said series, define that
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#1491 [23:23] <Lord_Ralex> amd/radeon/?
#1492 [23:23] <mattym> the 4200mobility
#1493 [23:23] <Lord_Ralex> the auto-detect should work just fine
#1494 [23:23] <mattym> ^
#1495 [23:25] <mattym> beast4877 These are the latest drivers for your hardware http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
#1496 [23:26] <portlandplease> you want me to copy and paste the whole thing?
#1497 [23:26] <mattym> to pastebin portlandplease
#1498 [23:26] <mattym> ??> portlandplease pastebin
#1499 [23:26] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1500 [23:27] <portlandplease> cool
#1501 [23:27] <beast4877> mattym: thank you - installing now
#1502 [23:27] <mattym> beast4877 if they dont work, you may need to unistall the old ones first, the try those again
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#1504 [23:28] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/C6a7AVx4
#1505 [23:29] <mattym> that was all it had?
#1506 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, you have a mac, right?
#1507 [23:29] <portlandplease> yep
#1508 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> you are running java 7?
#1509 [23:30] <portlandplease> where do i go to check?
#1510 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> no idea on macs
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#1512 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> open terminal
#1513 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> type "java -version"
#1514 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> and just put what it says here
#1515 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> betting it is java 7
#1516 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> want to make sure though
#1517 [23:32] <xales> portlandplease: Also - are you running any Norton products (or any other so-called "antivirus") on the computer?
#1518 [23:32] <portlandplease> I might be typing it in wrong. no virus software
#1519 [23:33] <mattym> will the java site work for checking it?
#1520 [23:33] <mattym> ??> portlandplease java/version
#1521 [23:33] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1522 [23:33] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1523 [23:33] <xales> mattym: it'll either say the version or "go away, Apple manages Java updates on Macs"
#1524 [23:34] <xales> (in many more words)
#1525 [23:34] <Lord_Ralex> xales, betting lwjgl issue
#1526 [23:34] <portlandplease> Java version: 1.7.0_12-ea
#1527 [23:34] <mattym> really, are Java and Apple acting like 6 year olds now?
#1528 [23:34] <xales> nope, Java version issue
#1529 [23:34] <xales> mattym: when aren't they?
#1530 [23:34] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, and that just made it the most likely problem
#1531 [23:34] <Lord_Ralex> xales, i call it the lwjgl issue cause that is where it fails ;)
#1532 [23:35] <Lord_Ralex> now to find that topic
#1533 [23:35] <mattym> you need the mac 101?
#1534 [23:35] <xales> Lord_Ralex: this one? http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4711.msg25596.html#msg25596
#1535 [23:35] <Lord_Ralex> no
#1536 [23:35] <Lord_Ralex> and yes xales
#1537 [23:35] <xales> :p
#1538 [23:35] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, we need to update LWJGL
#1539 [23:36] <Lord_Ralex> to do that, you will need to download the jars and natives from the link xales has provided
#1540 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> As far as I know, the jawt issue on java 7 and macs hasn't been fixed yet
#1541 [23:36] <portlandplease> I see ok
#1542 [23:36] <Lord_Ralex> GreyVulpine, didn't dev builds fix it?
#1543 [23:36] <Lord_Ralex> or at least are?
#1544 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> I think I tried that experimental build on somebody yesterday without success, but feel free to try it again
#1545 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> It may have been updated again.
#1546 [23:37] <portlandplease> Just downloaded them. Do i need to do anything with them? or just try and launch again
#1547 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> you have to replace the ones you have with those
#1548 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> ??> portlandplease mac/.minecrafrt
#1549 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> gah
#1550 [23:37] <beast4877> mattym: will check in with you all tomorrow if i'm still having issues. thanks so much for your assistance-
#1551 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> ??> portlandplease mac/.minecraft
#1552 [23:37] <VoxelHead> portlandplease: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1553 [23:38] <Lord_Ralex> Please get to that folder, and I will tell you what you have to do next
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#1555 [23:39] <mattym> beast4877 did you try uninstalling the old video drivers first then installing the new ones?
#1556 [23:40] <portlandplease> ok there
#1557 [23:40] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, good
#1558 [23:40] <Lord_Ralex> now, in the jars.zip, there is a bunch of zip files
#1559 [23:40] <Lord_Ralex> go to the bin folder, and replace each jar in there with the one from the zip
#1560 [23:41] * xales -> bed
#1560 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Same here.
#1561 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> \o
#1562 [23:41] <xales> \o
#1563 [23:41] <Lord_Ralex> cowards
#1564 [23:41] <CrusaderDeleters> We aren't cowards. We just fear insomnia!
#1565 [23:41] <Lord_Ralex> cowards
#1566 [23:42] <mattym> Talk to me at 4am and then complain about insomnia
#1567 [23:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Okay, We're cowards.
#1568 [23:42] <portlandplease> ok done.
#1569 [23:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Mattym: I've been up til 6 AM, and no problems. :P
#1570 [23:42] <Lord_Ralex> portlandplease, now, go to the natives folder
#1571 [23:42] * CrusaderDeleters is now known as CrusAsleep
#1572 [23:42] <Lord_Ralex> and do the same with the natives zip you have downloaded
#1573 [23:42] <Lord_Ralex> just replace the files in the folder with the ones from the zip
#1574 [23:43] <portlandplease> There is no natives folder in the minecraft folder. so im guessing make a new one? lol
#1575 [23:43] <Lord_Ralex> it is in the bin folder
#1576 [23:43] <Lord_Ralex> so bin/natives
#1577 [23:43] <portlandplease> ahh ok
#1578 [23:45] <portlandplease> The native downloads only gave me three items. In my natives folder here there are 4. leave the 4th alone?
#1579 [23:46] <Lord_Ralex> what is the 4th called?
#1580 [23:46] <portlandplease> libopenal.dylib
#1581 [23:46] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, leaev that one alone for now
#1582 [23:46] <portlandplease> ok
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#1584 [23:50] <portlandplease> trying and its stuck at the "Updating Minecraft......Done Loading" page
#1585 [23:50] <Lord_Ralex> has it given you a crash report yet?
#1586 [23:51] <portlandplease> nope just stays there. maybe i should delete everything and redo
#1587 [23:51] <Lord_Ralex> let's try to get a new crash report
#1588 [23:51] <portlandplease> ok
#1589 [23:51] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
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#1591 [23:54] <portlandplease> this is all it keeps saying "2/12/13 11:53:27.459 PM com.apple.launchd: (com.google.keystone.daemon[749]) Exited with code: 1 2/12/13 11:53:27.459 PM com.apple.launchd: (com.google.keystone.daemon) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds 2/12/13 11:53:37.484 PM com.apple.launchd: (com.google.keystone.daemon[750]) bootstrap_register() erroneously called instead of bootstrap_check_in(). Mach service: com.google.Key
#1592 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> hmm
#1593 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> can you get the full thing in a pastebin please?
#1594 [23:56] <Lord_Ralex> you might have to use the 3rd method to get it all easily
#1595 [23:57] <portlandplease> http://pastebin.com/xk16fQWm
#1596 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> is that when it tries to start?
#1597 [23:57] <Lord_Ralex> before the login screen?
#1598 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> or is this after it is "done downloading"?
#1599 [23:58] <portlandplease> this is while it says "done downloading". It never goes past that
#1600 [23:58] <Lord_Ralex> okay
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#1602 [23:59] <Lord_Ralex> let's give it one final lwjgl update, see if it fixes that
#1603 [23:59] <Lord_Ralex> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6gj27dmoyo0h0j/macosx.zip