#MinecraftHelp > 2013-08-19
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#5 [00:03] <techno156|School> Hey Wug
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#15 [00:09] <Raratork> I successfully found a workaround to my problem, thanks for your help, this new launcher is awesome
#16 [00:10] <iMars> anyone able to help with a minecraft login question?
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#20 [00:11] <iMars> Cannot login today with new launcher, although it worked fine yesterday... had trouble the day before that after migrating to Mojang account. Not cant login at all, anywhere.
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#22 [00:12] <techno156|School> iMars, What error do you get?
#23 [00:13] <iMars> it won't accept my login info at all.
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#25 [00:13] <iMars> I tried my original username password, said no username... so I tried the new Mojang login, and still wont accept.
#26 [00:14] <iMars> and I cant reset password, because it wont send the email (Mojang site says they cant send email to AOL)
#27 [00:14] <techno156|School> Did you try your email?
#28 [00:14] <techno156|School> Logging in with it
#29 [00:14] <iMars> yes, I tried my email address with my password when I migrated, still wont accept it.
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#31 [00:15] <techno156|School> iMars, Hm. Odd
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#33 [00:15] <iMars> I migrated on Friday morning.. logged in after I confirmed the email. logged in fine... then, when I tried again that night, it wouldnt accept the mojang info....
#34 [00:15] <iMars> but it did accept my original login.
#35 [00:16] <iMars> then yesterday (Saturday) it wouldnt accept anything at all.... I tried again this morning and it let me log in with my old info.
#36 [00:17] <techno156|School> iMars, No idea, sorry. But I would suggest that you give it a few days, they might just be taking a while. :)
#37 [00:17] <iMars> now, I come back, and it wont login no matter what I try, and mojang.com says it is sending me a reset password email, but it never arrives.
#38 [00:18] <iMars> Yeah, I'll have to see if they'll answer my request for help... but, I need to record my let's play series, so this is holding me up. =/
#39 [00:18] <techno156|School> iMars, AOL has a tendency to lose Mojang Emails.
#40 [00:18] <techno156|School> But thats all the advice I can give you. :|
#41 [00:18] <iMars> Yeah, I just read that on mojang site. no idea what I am gonna do. =/
#42 [00:19] <iMars> highly frustrated at the moment, this has been happening all weekend.
#43 [00:19] <iMars> Thanks for trying tho, I appreciate it.
#44 [00:19] <techno156|School> np. :)
#45 [00:19] <techno156|School> Good Luck. :)
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#50 [00:28] <Ean> IHi, When I go to change my skin in says I need to purchase the game first. The thing is I was gifted a prepaid card and my account is premium because I can play online and everything. It just wont let me change my skin. :(
#51 [00:29] <techno156|School> Ean, When fif you experience this problem?
#52 [00:29] <techno156|School> *did
#53 [00:29] <Ean> !5 minutes ago.
#54 [00:29] <Ean> 5*
#55 [00:33] <techno156|School> Hm...
#56 [00:33] <techno156|School> The skin server may be down
#57 [00:33] <Lord_Ralex> Ean, make sure you were logging in to the site with your email and password
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#61 [00:35] <Ean> I just logged out and tried again. Same error D:
#62 [00:36] <Ean> I'm using the same email and password I do to log into the launcher.
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#67 [00:51] <mrdoom1> i need help with my diaxlog
#68 [00:51] <techno156|School> mrdoom1, In what way?
#69 [00:51] <mrdoom1> i need to update it ?
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#71 [00:53] <mrdoom1> I have the url and it says after you have the url Copy down that URL, and give the URL to whoever is helping you. They will then give you further instructions.
#72 [00:53] <mrdoom1> Can someone help me?
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#74 [00:57] <techno156|School> Well, give us the URL?
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#80 [01:02] <minimetal2010> Hello. I have just one question about the pc version of Minecraft. Right now, I haven't bought it, but I am trying out the demo. I've tried it once before and I have the same problems. Aside from a little lag (which isn't all that terrible), I keep wondering as why the pause menu keeps appearing at random moments. I have no idea as to what could be causing this. Does anyone here have any idea and possibly a solu
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#86 [01:08] <techno156|School> minimetal2010, You may have windows/notifications popping up?
#87 [01:09] <minimetal2010> Hardly. Let me try closing out some other tabs and stuff.
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#89 [01:12] <minimetal2010> It seems to have helped the lag a little, but I still get the random pause menu.
#90 [01:12] <minimetal2010> Oh. Btw, I am trying this on my laptop. It's a Toshiba Portege R705 with Intel Core i3 and Windows 7.
#91 [01:12] <techno156|School> Ok
#92 [01:12] <techno156|School> minimetal, something may be popping up, causing the pause menu to show
#93 [01:13] <techno156|School> the game automatically pauses when it is no longer in focus
#94 [01:14] <minimetal2010> Well, I'm trying to think of what it could be. It can't be the few stand-still ads on the side. They weren't there when I last tried the demo and I still had the same problem.
#95 [01:18] <minimetal2010> Also, could you give me a better explanation of "the game is no longer in focus"? I'm trying to understand it, but still a bit fuzzy on it.
#96 [01:18] <Lord_Ralex> minimetal2010, focus just means it is the active window. Generally if another window pops up or something demands to be seen, it will cause other things to lose focus
#97 [01:19] <minimetal2010> Okay, that's kind of what I thought.
#98 [01:19] <minimetal2010> Hold on. Let me close this tab and my other two, leaving only the MineCraft demo tab open. Brb.
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#101 [01:21] <minimetal2010> Back. The pause menu continues to pop up randomly. I do not have anything else open, other than this tab.
#102 [01:21] <Lord_Ralex> minimetal2010, are you using the browser version or the demo that is playable from the launcher, which is downloaded from http://minecraft.net/download
#103 [01:22] <minimetal2010> I am playing the demo.
#104 [01:22] <techno156|School> The downloaded version, or the online version?
#105 [01:23] <Lord_Ralex> minimetal2010, there is 2 demos. Which is why I am asking which one. Did you run an exe to play it, or do you play in the browser
#106 [01:23] <techno156|School> *are
#107 [01:23] <techno156|School> Sorry, couldn't help myself. :P
#108 [01:23] <minimetal2010> It is the demo in the browser.
#109 [01:23] <minimetal2010> It's ok. :)
#110 [01:23] <Lord_Ralex> minimetal2010, you want to use the downloaded one then
#111 [01:23] <Lord_Ralex> ??> minimetal2010 demo
#112 [01:23] <VoxelHead> minimetal2010: You can access a demo version of Minecraft, completely free of charge, by registering a Mojang account at http://account.mojang.com/register then downloading the standalone launcher available on http://minecraft.net/download.
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#114 [01:26] <minimetal2010> Okay, I deleted the windows tab that had the demo I was playing and now I'm accessing the the demo that's run by the exe.
#115 [01:26] <minimetal2010> Woops, put the twice. Lol.
#116 [01:27] <Lord_Ralex> minimetal2010, try using that to play, does it also pause randomly?
#117 [01:27] <minimetal2010> I'm about to find out.
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#125 [01:38] <minimetal2010> Well, 10 minutes have passed and no random pause menus. :)
#126 [01:39] <minimetal2010> So, thank you, techno156 and Lord Ralex.
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#130 [01:46] <nkwilliams78> hi
#131 [01:48] <nkwilliams78> Im running windows 8 & am trying to play Minecraft but it keeps saying my graphics drivers need to be updated.. anybody around who can help? please..
#132 [01:48] <Lord_Ralex> ??> nkwilliams78 hopper/dxdiag
#133 [01:48] <Dabo> Your graphics probably needs to be updated then? Just a guess
#134 [01:48] <VoxelHead> nkwilliams78: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#135 [01:50] <nkwilliams78> im getting the "Pixel Format Not Accelerated" message..
#136 [01:50] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, read the link VoxelHead provided
#137 [01:50] <nkwilliams78> thanks, I will.. :)
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#141 [01:54] <nkwilliams78> do I need to copy and paste my dxdiag to a txt sharing website?
#142 [01:54] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, follow the article, it explains what site to use
#143 [01:54] <nascar> ocelot and not tame and not follower me and one cat types of cat what get it do???
#144 [01:56] <nascar> ocelot are not tame and not come to me and one types of cat show up all the time but in flat world it work but not in a flat world
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#146 [02:03] <nkwilliams78> where do I paste the url?
#147 [02:03] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, here
#148 [02:04] <nkwilliams78> https://gist.github.com/nkwilliams78/789a8fabe3f9a3b86fdc
#149 [02:04] <nkwilliams78> I hope I did that right.. :)
#150 [02:04] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, hm, Intel does not offer Windows 8 drivers for your video card
#151 [02:05] <nkwilliams78> shoot, so am I screwed?
#152 [02:05] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, you can try to see if https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2991&DwnldID=22165&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%c2%ae+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng will work
#153 [02:06] <nkwilliams78> thanks, I'll give it a try
#154 [02:09] <nkwilliams78> it said "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software."
#155 [02:10] <nkwilliams78> any other ideas?
#156 [02:11] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, could try using https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22163&lang=eng
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#158 [02:14] <nkwilliams78> isn't that the same tining, just .zip?
#159 [02:15] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, not quite
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#161 [02:16] <nkwilliams78> after extraction do run setup?
#162 [02:16] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, yes
#163 [02:17] <nkwilliams78> it said the same thing, "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software."
#164 [02:18] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, does http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_spotlight_dctop10 provide you any updates?
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#166 [02:19] <nkwilliams78> im checking..
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#169 [02:22] <traurig> hey. i buy minecraft online for PSC for the 19.95€!! and ?? its not going.. ;( how do i make that i have the prem acc
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#172 [02:26] <nkwilliams78> Hi, sorry.. I got this message: The Intel Drivers Update Utility installation failed. Possible web browser compadebility, firewall, or instillation isue detected.
#173 [02:27] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, then not sure what else to try. I do not know of workarounds for the lack of win8 drivers for that video card
#174 [02:28] <nkwilliams78> so for me to be able to play, I would have to revert back to & older version of windows?
#175 [02:28] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, that would be the best way to, yes
#176 [02:28] <Lord_Ralex> nkwilliams78, there are ways people got the updated drivers to work, however i do not know those methods
#177 [02:29] <nkwilliams78> alright then, thanks for trying to help.. have a good night..
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#195 [03:30] <minecraft12345> minecraft is not opening!
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#198 [03:31] <minecraft12345> minecraft is not opening
#199 [03:31] <Wug> minecraft12345: how long has this been happening
#200 [03:31] <Wug> and when did it last open, and have you updated java or your graphics drivers or anything since then
#201 [03:31] <Wug> has it ever worked on that computer
#202 [03:31] <minecraft12345> since minecraft 1.6 was released
#203 [03:31] <minecraft12345> no
#204 [03:32] <Wug> what happens when you try
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#209 [03:46] <OtherWind> Does this page deal with modding help? :)
#210 [03:47] <Necrodoom> nope
#211 [03:47] <OtherWind> Do you know any good channels for that please? :)
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#221 [04:10] <sk1llp6r3> I had 2 trees in my tree farm grow twice just like 5 mins ago
#222 [04:11] <cindy> can someone tell me if minecraft is compatible for the samsung galaxy ace?
#223 [04:11] <Marzenia> cindy, you have to go to the play store, log in, specify what phone you have and the play store will tell you if it is
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#226 [04:12] <cindy> play store told me it wasnt. Does anyone know if there is a list with compatible phones. Can't find it anywhere.
#227 [04:12] <sk1llp6r3> I guess I'm not an important customer
#228 [04:12] <sk1llp6r3> bye assholes
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#230 [04:13] <sk1llp6r3> see if mojang gets any more of my money
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#233 [04:16] <Necrodoom> did just guy just rage quitted because his saplings grew
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#238 [04:40] <kk> hi i had this problem:
#239 [04:40] <kk> Full report at: /Users/kjgiron/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash-2013-08-19_01.37.03-client.txt
#240 [04:41] <kk> said the demo crashed
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#242 [04:41] <kk> and could not be started
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#246 [04:44] <Guest_> How do I check a Servers up or not
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#248 [04:47] <Guest_> fuck you lifeless freaks
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#250 [04:47] <Calinou> cool story
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#261 [04:54] <nomkrijger> What do I have to do to fix a lack of up to date graphics drivers?
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#264 [05:01] <Marzenia> install graphic card drivers
#265 [05:01] <nomkrijger> I think so
#266 [05:02] <Marzenia> nomkrijger, http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/
#267 [05:03] <nomkrijger> I already tried that out, I have Intel and when it checks for updates it says no updates found for graphic card drivers...
#268 [05:03] <Lord_Ralex> ??> nomkrijger hopper/dxdiag
#269 [05:03] <VoxelHead> nomkrijger: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
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#271 [05:04] <nomkrijger> okay
#272 [05:06] <nomkrijger> and than?
#273 [05:06] <Lord_Ralex> nomkrijger, you will be linking us a webpage that has the dxdiag, which the page VoxelHead linked would explain how you do that
#274 [05:08] <nomkrijger> Lord_Ralex this link says: This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer for possible updates. Link: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_iduu
#275 [05:08] <Lord_Ralex> nomkrijger, that is not the link I am talking about
#276 [05:09] <Lord_Ralex> nomkrijger, follow what this says: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
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#282 [05:16] <DC> hi my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
#283 [05:16] <DC> hi my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
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#287 [05:18] <DC> my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
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#290 [05:19] <DC> hi staff i need help with my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
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#293 [05:20] <DC> @GrygrFlzr just join or staff off plz
#294 [05:20] <DC> hi staff i need help with my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
#295 [05:20] <GrygrFlzr> DC: What?
#296 [05:21] <DC> GrygrFlzr why where you going on and off like you didn't want to help
#297 [05:21] <GrygrFlzr> DC: I was fixing my client which was not showing any incoming IRC messages =.=
#298 [05:21] <DC> oh
#299 [05:21] <GrygrFlzr> Stop assuming stuff.
#300 [05:22] <DC> anyway i need help with my server mcpcraft.mcpro.co sometimes works with mc sometimes doesn't this is PROOF that it works sometimes: http://prntscr.com/1m4exz
#301 [05:24] <DC> hello any staff online?
#302 [05:24] <GrygrFlzr> ??> DC patience
#303 [05:24] <VoxelHead> DC: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#304 [05:24] <VoxelHead> DC: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#305 [05:24] <GrygrFlzr> !check mcpcraft.mcpro.co
#306 [05:24] <DC> AuBot i was the one who asked
#307 [05:25] <DC> and AuBot it has no port
#308 [05:25] <GrygrFlzr> DC: 25565 is default port.
#309 [05:26] <DC> @GrygrFlzr oh ok
#310 [05:27] <GrygrFlzr> DC: To be honest you should probably ask this to your server hosting, not us, since we can't fix any server hosting problems
#311 [05:27] <DC> ok
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#313 [05:29] <GingerGeek> Oh god log in has gone down
#314 [05:30] <GrygrFlzr> Session went down, not login
#315 [05:30] <GingerGeek> both are down
#316 [05:30] <GingerGeek> .status
#317 [05:30] <GingerGeek> wait wrong channel
#318 [05:30] <GingerGeek> Login is giving a server errror atm
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#320 [05:31] <GingerGeek> and mollstam just tweeted it is brooken
#321 [05:34] <GingerGeek> Nad everything is back online
#322 [05:34] <GrygrFlzr> Just refreshed help page. Auth is down.
#323 [05:34] <GingerGeek> and everything is back online
#324 [05:34] <GrygrFlzr> Yeah, it might go down again, hopefully not
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#326 [05:48] <Mgod> i need help
#327 [05:48] <Mgod> my https://gist.github.com/anonymous/573178cba922e3d43ef9
#328 [05:48] <Mgod> can help
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#330 [05:50] <Mgod> i'm os win 8 and my Graphics card is Q45 Express Chipset a
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#332 [05:50] <Calinou> it's not supposed on windows 8
#333 [05:50] <Mgod> he is no have support win8 how to fix
#334 [05:51] <Calinou> downgrade to windows 7
#335 [05:54] <Mgod> i don't love win7 i give you the Will give you the link DriverAre who can you extracted the files that exist in the Driver and send it to me and where fabricators?
#336 [05:55] <Calinou> no, just no.
#337 [05:55] <Calinou> intel does not provide drivers for your IGP on windows 8
#338 [05:55] <Mgod> i know
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#340 [05:57] <Mgod> If you've installed the system and placebo Sot work?
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#342 [05:58] <Calinou> your last sentence made... no sensed
#343 [05:58] <Calinou> -d
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#345 [06:00] <Mgod> If i'm install win 7 a placebo will work
#346 [06:01] <Calinou> no?
#347 [06:02] <Mgod> ok thx for help
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#379 [07:16] <TeamMoore> help
#380 [07:17] <GrygrFlzr> ??> TeamMoore ask
#381 [07:17] <VoxelHead> TeamMoore: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#382 [07:17] <VoxelHead> TeamMoore: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#383 [07:17] <TeamMoore> I can not get steve to do anything
#384 [07:17] <TeamMoore> like bust the trees
#385 [07:18] <TeamMoore> hello? anyone
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#388 [07:19] <TeamMoore> all these people and no one is chatting
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#396 [07:37] <Cam> When I click on a resource pack minecraft freezes and then unfreezes but the pack is still on default, do you know what I can do?
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#403 [07:57] <TrollZord10> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81a6667a2d61b04e1500
#404 [07:57] <TrollZord10> hi
#405 [07:58] <TrollZord10> help
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#414 [08:23] <emrah586465> slm
#415 [08:23] <emrah586465> slm
#416 [08:23] <emrah586465> slm
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#434 [09:01] <Dylan> lol
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#478 [10:36] <meNace98> Could anyone tell me what this means and how to fix it? - http://puu.sh/45BqZ.png
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#481 [10:39] <meNace98> And also could this - http://puu.sh/45Bw2.png be the problem to this - http://puu.sh/45Bwq.png ? please reply...
#482 [10:39] <meNace98> And also could this - http://puu.sh/45Bw2.png be the problem to this - http://puu.sh/45Bwq.png ? please reply...
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#484 [10:43] <TooLmaN> meNace98: you will have to give java public access to use a public (not at your house) MC server.
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#503 [11:14] <meNace98> Still doesnt work
#504 [11:16] <Calinou> meNace98: disable firewall
#505 [11:16] <meNace98> How?
#506 [11:18] <Calinou> meNace98: by going in the control panel
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#508 [11:22] <Extreme> meNace98: if you got that message, you should have checked both
#509 [11:24] <meNace98> I did
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#513 [11:33] <harold5187> Hey guys, I'm like totally hardware retarded, and on top of that I bought a crappy motherboard the FX-4100... So my question is, would disabling hyperthreating solve java hotspot exceptions regarding blocked threads, which I fear may be a shared memory issue occuring?
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#515 [11:37] <harold5187> oh yeah, I also have a nvidia gt-640 with 1 gig of Vram... for the first time, as of today, I opted in for the beta driver, hoping that may help as well, but I'm really concerned aobut the hyperthreading, because I hear that certain nvidia drivers are damaging GPU's...
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#518 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> Hey I just bought that game
#519 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> For windows 8
#520 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> And when I download it it says unable to download remote file
#521 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> Please help
#522 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> I tried reinstalling java
#523 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> Allowing it on firewall
#524 [11:40] <Carlrubiooo> Pretty much everything I could
#525 [11:45] <harold5187> Hey Carlrubiooo, just curious, how is Windows 8? Any better than 7? Should I buy or hold off?
#526 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> Windows 8 made
#527 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> My
#528 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> Computer faster
#529 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> But
#530 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> You should stay with 7
#531 [11:46] <Carlrubiooo> Cause windows 8 is really confusing and it barely gives you any freedom
#532 [11:47] <harold5187> thx...I can't wait till they fix the problems in win 7...
#533 [11:47] <Carlrubiooo> What kind of problem are you having on 7?
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#535 [11:49] <harold5187> Just a bunch of errors in the event log that they call normal, but I would like fixed... I can't recall anything specific, except the Nvcsteram, or something has stoped... not quite sure but it's not good
#536 [11:49] <Carlrubiooo> I just want to play :(
#537 [11:49] <Calinou> <Carlrubiooo> Cause windows 8 is really confusing and it barely gives you any freedom
#538 [11:49] <Calinou> it's not like windows gives you any freedom anyway
#539 [11:50] <Calinou> and windows 8 is way better than win7
#540 [11:50] <harold5187> ...yeah... ain't that the truth! Computers arn't as easy to figure out now, as they used to be
#541 [11:50] <Calinou> harold5187: AMD CPUs don't have hyperthreading
#542 [11:50] <Calinou> they have physical cores
#543 [11:50] <Calinou> harold5187: best joke 2013...
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#545 [11:50] <Calinou> computers are a lot easier to use, but this isn't as good as people may say
#546 [11:50] <Calinou> if they were harder to use we would see less people here :P
#547 [11:51] <Carlrubiooo> Calinou you have any suggestions that I could try?
#548 [11:51] <harold5187> Well, what I mean, is the problems are getting more complex, it's not just a simple matter of digging up memory to reach 640k, now we have to deal with conflicts, and java, and windows errors
#549 [11:52] <Calinou> harold5187: the upgrade isn't worth it, though
#550 [11:52] <Calinou> windows errors? the answer is in the question
#551 [11:52] <Calinou> java? see above
#552 [11:53] <harold5187> are you sure there's no hyperthreading on an Fx-4100 bulldozer?
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#554 [11:56] <Carlrubiooo> These words are too complex! I just want to play, I Paid for
#555 [11:56] <Carlrubiooo> Nothing.
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#558 [11:56] <frymaster> harold5187, all its logical cores are real, but there's only half as many FPUs as there are cores
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#560 [11:57] <frymaster> so certainly in terms of OS thread scheduling, it's treated the same way as hyperthreading
#561 [11:57] <harold5187> So what could be causing the blocked threads? I figured something was waiting on another somethign that wasn't being released
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#564 [11:58] <frymaster> either locking, or because a lot of stuff in minecraft needs floating-point arithmetic
#565 [11:58] <frymaster> I don't know enough about minecraft internals to speculate on that
#566 [12:00] <Carlrubiooo> So does anyone know how to fix my problem?
#567 [12:00] <Extreme> Carlrubiooo: what's your problem?
#568 [12:00] <Carlrubiooo> When I install the new launcher I get the white screen full of stuff and at the end it says unable to download remote file and then it says please fix error and restart
#569 [12:01] <Extreme> ??> Carlrubiooo pastebin
#570 [12:01] <VoxelHead> Carlrubiooo: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#571 [12:01] <Extreme> Carlrubiooo: pastebin the log
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#579 [12:03] <harold5187> Here's something I found, quoted by someone else: But there may be a conflict in the shared aspect, here it is: It's kind of a sticky area. The FX-4100 has 2 Bulldozer modules, each module has 2 x86 engines, but they share a lot of resources/components within the module. It's kinda halfway between a full traditional core and something like hyper-threading. All 4 cores are working, as indicated by recognition of "4 logical proce
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#583 [12:06] <frymaster> harold5187: yeah, same thing I was referring to
#584 [12:07] <harold5187> Is there something in my bios I need to disable, to resolve these blocked threat issues with Java?
#585 [12:07] <harold5187> thread
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#588 [12:10] <frymaster> can you pastebin your error? all it should mean is your PC doesn't run as fast as it might be thought to, it shouldn't cause actual errors
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#590 [12:10] <harold5187> ok, I'll do that for ya, thx, BRB
#591 [12:12] <harold5187> Here ya go http://pastebin.com/H5LFPwru
#592 [12:13] <harold5187> Strange thing also, I read an article, about some people having problems with the Fx-4100 starting up applications after a cold boot...that was interesting
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#594 [12:14] <Extreme> oh, that
#595 [12:14] <Extreme> harold5187: reinstall java
#596 [12:14] <frymaster> harold5187: yeah, that's nothing to do with threads, it's just that since it's crashing, it's printing out EVERYTHING, including the thread statuses
#597 [12:14] <harold5187> Okay, what happened, did they get corrupted, and will I have to reinstall java every time this happens? CAn my computer not handle minecraft?
#598 [12:15] <frymaster> 90% reinstalling fixes it, 5% chance you have a fault in your memory, 5% chance a.n.other (including sunspots)
#599 [12:16] <harold5187> okay... that's all french to me, but I'll take your word... Thanks for the help Extreme, Frymaster, good to see ya again!
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#601 [12:18] <Narulias> my minecraft keeps crashing at boot up of the new launcher
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#603 [12:18] <Narulias> im on mac
#604 [12:18] <Extreme> ??> Narulias devconsole
#605 [12:18] <VoxelHead> Narulias: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#606 [12:18] <VoxelHead> Narulias: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#609 [12:20] <Narulias> http://pastebin.com/FFB8sBJe
#610 [12:21] <Extreme> Narulias: your computer is seriously out of date
#611 [12:21] <Narulias> what is wrong
#612 [12:21] <Narulias> minecraft recently worked on it
#613 [12:21] <Extreme> ??> Narulias mac/softwareupdate
#614 [12:21] <VoxelHead> Narulias: You need to install all available Software Updates available for your Mac.
#615 [12:21] <VoxelHead> Narulias: To do so, click the Apple icon in the top left of the screen, and click Software Update. Continue to install updates until there are none.
#616 [12:21] <Narulias> ok
#617 [12:22] <Extreme> Narulias: upgrade your OS X version and /everything/ else
#618 [12:22] <Narulias> osx version
#619 [12:22] <Narulias> why
#620 [12:22] <Narulias> i was on osx leopard
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#622 [12:22] <Narulias> an everything was fine until snow leopard
#623 [12:23] <Narulias> ok then thanks for help i need to restart to update
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#630 [12:28] <maciej> https://gist.github.com/warlegomaster123/fffb0ff3a844f10ce900
#631 [12:29] <maciej> my minecraft isnt starting up and i followed the steps and it told me to give you a link on a load of text!
#632 [12:30] <clarjon1> Oooh, you're on a laptop
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#634 [12:30] <soraia1234> ola
#635 [12:31] <clarjon1> howdy
#636 [12:31] <maciej> hello yes i am on a laptop
#637 [12:31] <maciej> and my minecraft wont start up
#638 [12:31] <soraia1234> do not just say i need help
#639 [12:31] <clarjon1> maciej: Your best bet is to try and update your graphics drivers. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+965+Express+Chipset+Family
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#641 [12:32] <maciej> okay becuase it told me to give you a link]
#642 [12:32] <clarjon1> maciej: Please note that Intel Graphics chips have been known to be incompatible with Minecraft, due to the technologies it employs.
#643 [12:32] <maciej> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/19/2013, 18:21:14 Machine name: MACIEJ-KOMPUTER Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130708-1532) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard System Model: HP 550 BIOS: KBC Version 12.00 Processor: Intel(R) Ce
#644 [12:33] <clarjon1> maciej: Running Minecraft on a laptop can be a bit more troublesome than a Desktop PC, mainly because of the fact that one cannot replace or install a new graphics chip in a laptop.
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#646 [12:33] <clarjon1> maciej: The link I gave you is a link to the Intel Driver Download site. Select the operating system you are running, and the driver, to download the driver file.
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#648 [12:34] <maciej> so what do i do becuase i read all the steps to fix it and it told me to give you a link to some text that you ay be able to fix!
#649 [12:34] <soraia1234> not speek inglês
#650 [12:34] <clarjon1> maciej: I just told you
#651 [12:35] <clarjon1> maciej: YOu need to update your Graphics drivers, or get a better computer :P
#652 [12:35] <clarjon1> maciej: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+965+Express+Chipset+Family
#653 [12:35] <soraia1234> yes
#654 [12:35] <clarjon1> maciej: That link, the one I just gave you, is to the Intel Downloads page
#655 [12:35] <soraia1234> yes
#656 [12:35] <clarjon1> maciej: I am giving you this link because of the information of the link YOU gave me.
#657 [12:36] <maciej> oh okay well there are 2 downloads on intel wich one shall i pick? :p
#658 [12:36] <clarjon1> You'd want the EXE version
#659 [12:36] <clarjon1> the top one
#660 [12:37] <maciej> yep got it
#661 [12:37] <soraia1234> the link
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#664 [12:38] <maciej> no ive download the thing that clarjon1 told me to do and it did something on my laptop
#665 [12:38] <clarjon1> maciej: Ok, once the driver is installed, you should try to reboot, then fire up minecraft again
#666 [12:39] <maciej> okay
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#668 [12:39] <maciej> thank you soooo much its working now :p
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#670 [12:40] <Nate_> I need help connecting to servers
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#672 [12:40] <Nate_> somebody help!
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#680 [12:55] <TheDarkKnight> I honestly have no idea what I need help with...
#681 [12:56] <TheDarkKnight> I was just told to paste this information here
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#685 [12:57] <kijh> do not just say i need help
#686 [12:57] <kijh> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bc6d1fef6ee455c5b481
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#688 [12:57] <afzal> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2d8340f6aec900e94190
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#691 [12:59] <kijh> hey i need help
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#694 [13:00] <afzal> my graphic card is out dated what should i do?
#695 [13:00] <afzal> my graphic card is out dated what should i do?
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#699 [13:02] <jackson> hello my minecraft wont auto update
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#703 [13:02] <simendjuve> i need help
#704 [13:03] <jackson> hello
#705 [13:03] <RATte> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Why did you do that? Time: 19.08.13 16:37 Description: Ticking tile entity java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at java.util.Arrays.copyOf(Unknown Source) at java.util.Arrays.copyOf(Unknown Source) at java.util.ArrayList.grow(Unknown Source) at java.util.ArrayList.ensureCapacityInternal(Unknown Source) at java.util.ArrayList.add(Unknown Source) at java.util.Coll
#706 [13:03] <simendjuve> "I NEED HELP"
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#710 [13:04] <Wug> ~simendjuve
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#713 [13:05] <Jamesfinlay1> Hello
#714 [13:06] <Jamesfinlay1> I need help
#715 [13:06] <Jamesfinlay1> Whenever i try to log in as Jamesfinlay1
#716 [13:06] <Jamesfinlay1> It displays an error message
#717 [13:06] <Wug> and that message says?
#718 [13:06] <Jamesfinlay1> Saying "We cannot log you in as Jamesfinlay1 please try again later"
#719 [13:07] <Wug> have you tried and failed to login with the wrong password several times?
#720 [13:07] <Jamesfinlay1> Not once
#721 [13:07] <Wug> it locks you out for a few hours if you do that to prevent accounts from being easy to steal
#722 [13:07] <Jamesfinlay1> I have never gotten my password wrong
#723 [13:07] <Wug> can you login on mojang.com?
#724 [13:07] <Jamesfinlay1> Yes
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#726 [13:08] <Wug> and the exact same credentials don't work in the launcher?
#727 [13:08] <Jamesfinlay1> Wait
#728 [13:08] <Jamesfinlay1> It says "This is not a certified website"?
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#731 [13:08] <Wug> it's not 2011
#732 [13:08] <envyhard> hi
#733 [13:08] <Jamesfinlay1> Oh
#734 [13:08] <Wug> fix your computer clock
#735 [13:08] <Jamesfinlay1> ._.
#736 [13:09] <Jamesfinlay1> Hm
#737 [13:09] <Jamesfinlay1> Thanks! :D
#738 [13:09] <Wug> np
#739 [13:09] <Wug> envyhard: hello
#740 [13:09] <envyhard> i have a problem
#741 [13:09] <envyhard> here
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#743 [13:09] <Wug> I might have a solution
#744 [13:09] <envyhard> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/19/2013, 18:41:36 Machine name: VTN Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130410-1505) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) System Manufacturer: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model: 300E4C/300E5C/300E7C BIOS: P04RAP Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-241
#745 [13:09] <Wug> ?? pastebin
#746 [13:09] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#748 [13:10] <envyhard> my minecraft dont work why??
#749 [13:10] <Wug> envyhard: read the pastebin text
#750 [13:10] <Resyii> hey yeah
#751 [13:10] <Wug> then post your dxdiag on pastebin and share a link
#752 [13:10] <Resyii> its to do with my graphics drive or something
#753 [13:10] <Resyii> oh ok
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#755 [13:11] <envyhard> wait
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#757 [13:11] <prothvar> I was curious how i can load mdos with only certian profiles in 1.6.2 and not on others, sorry my googling skills are horrible today.
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#760 [13:12] <envyhard> so
#761 [13:12] <Wug> prothvar: this isn't a mod support channel (I haven't installed mods since before 1.6 so I don't know what the procedure is)
#762 [13:13] <prothvar> Ah sorry, for usign the wrong channel lol, my bad
#763 [13:13] <Wug> you could try looking on youtube
#764 [13:13] <Wug> or if you're feeling lucky ask in #risucraft
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#767 [13:14] <prothvar> Btw, ty Wug.
#768 [13:14] <envyhard> System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/19/2013, 18:41:36 Machine name: VTN Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130410-1505) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) System Manufacturer: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model: 300E4C/300E5C/300E7C BIOS: P04RAP Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz (4
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#770 [13:14] <Wug> envyhard: that's still not pastebin
#771 [13:14] <Wug> ?? pastebin
#772 [13:14] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#773 [13:14] <envyhard> System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/19/2013, 18:41:36 Machine name: VTN Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130410-1505) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) System Manufacturer: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model: 300E4C/300E5C/300E7C BIOS: P04RAP Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz (4
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#781 [13:17] <Wug> envyhard: 3 strikes and you're out
#782 [13:17] <Wug> so how about you read this this time
#783 [13:17] <Wug> ?? pastebin
#784 [13:17] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#785 [13:17] <envyhard> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // I just don't know what went wrong :( Time: 19.08.13 19:04 Description: Initializing game org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerInfo.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsDisplay.createWindow(WindowsDisplay.java:244) at org.lwjgl.opengl.
#786 [13:17] <envyhard> is that this
#787 [13:17] <Wug> DID YOU ACTUALLY READ IT
#788 [13:17] <envyhard> yes
#789 [13:17] <prothvar> You are suppose to goto the URL he provided, copy paste it all in there
#790 [13:17] <envyhard> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#791 [13:17] <Wug> no you didn't
#792 [13:17] <prothvar> then repaste the url
#793 [13:19] <envyhard> bb
#794 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
#795 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
#796 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
#797 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
#798 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
#799 [13:20] <envyhard> bb
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#801 [13:20] <Delaxarnyazer> bb?
#802 [13:20] <Delaxarnyazer> whats that ?
#803 [13:22] <Morrolan> 'Bye bye'.
#804 [13:22] <Morrolan> In his case it was mainly spam, though.
#805 [13:22] <Delaxarnyazer> oh
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#807 [13:23] <scarble> hello everyone, I have a server question: is it possible to move the default spawn point through console commands?
#808 [13:24] <Delaxarnyazer> ./spawnpoint @a ?
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#810 [13:24] <scarble> when I do that it says it only set it for me
#811 [13:24] <scarble> I thought the @ commands only worked with command blocks?
#812 [13:25] <Grum> they should work for most command instead of a name
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#814 [13:25] <scarble> Oh. ok. I guess really I need a new player to join before I know if it worked :p
#815 [13:26] <scarble> ah, if I do @a it says "set spawn point for scarble to (x y z)" but if I do @A it says "player not found"
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#817 [13:27] <Morrolan> I'd assume it'll set it for everyone who's online, or for every player known to the server, and not for every player ever?
#818 [13:27] <scarble> oh I hope that didn't just over-ride everyone's existing spawn points ._.
#819 [13:27] <Grum> scarble: @a is not @A
#820 [13:27] <scarble> ah yes, that sounds about right Morrolan
#821 [13:27] <scarble> Grum, I guessed as much :p But it shows that @a is being interpreted as *something*
#822 [13:28] <Delaxarnyazer> make a spawncapsule with tripwire which a tps to new spawnpoint and b sets spawnpoint for that player
#823 [13:28] <scarble> I can't make a tripwire with a tps
#824 [13:28] <scarble> no command blocks
#825 [13:29] <Morrolan> Easiest solution is to edit the level.dat using one of the many tools. :)
#826 [13:29] <scarble> I can't :p realms
#827 [13:29] <Delaxarnyazer> mcedit
#828 [13:29] <scarble> realms?
#829 [13:30] <Delaxarnyazer> whats realms ?
#830 [13:30] <Morrolan> Mojang-offered basic Minecraft server hosting.
#831 [13:30] <scarble> :O
#832 [13:30] <Delaxarnyazer> oh
#833 [13:30] <Morrolan> Still in a closed beta, IIRC.
#834 [13:31] <Delaxarnyazer> iirc ?
#835 [13:31] <Morrolan> If I recall / remember correctly.
#836 [13:31] <Delaxarnyazer> ok
#837 [13:32] <Delaxarnyazer> dutch <-- so i dont know english shortcuts :-p
#838 [13:32] <Morrolan> Swiss <- Yet he knows English shortcuts. :P
#839 [13:33] <Delaxarnyazer> Zwitserland ?
#840 [13:34] <Morrolan> Argh, stop twisting the word around, knitting knots into it with your Dutch tongue. :P
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#842 [13:34] <Deadbird> hi
#843 [13:34] <Deadbird> im having some odd issue
#844 [13:34] <Deadbird> blocks keep flickering/disappearing
#845 [13:34] <Deadbird> as if someone is turning xray on and off
#846 [13:34] <Deadbird> it looks like this http://oi42.tinypic.com/295zwab.jpg and this http://oi43.tinypic.com/21mrfdl.jpg
#847 [13:34] <Delaxarnyazer> ??> Deadbird do/,
#848 [13:34] <VoxelHead> Deadbird: The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#849 [13:34] <Deadbird> thats the same spot, and nothing was changed
#850 [13:34] <Deadbird> any thoughts?
#851 [13:35] <scarble> online or offline?
#852 [13:35] <Deadbird> online
#853 [13:35] <clarjon1> looks like chunk rendering errors
#854 [13:35] <Deadbird> okay
#855 [13:35] <Deadbird> i use optifine if that helps? what can be done?
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#857 [13:36] <Delaxarnyazer> ?? mods
#858 [13:36] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#859 [13:36] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#860 [13:36] <Talven81> Deadbird clarjon1: I've seen that before, it's a texture pack / HD mod issue.
#861 [13:36] <Deadbird> hmm ok
#862 [13:36] <scarble> lol. I'd try turning off the advance GL methods (or something like that) option in optifine
#863 [13:37] <Deadbird> okay i will try that, thanks
#864 [13:37] <scarble> try reinstalling graphics drivers and failling that contact optifine team. But if it only happens online and not offline it could be lag related
#865 [13:37] <Deadbird> i wouldn't know anything about offline. singleplayer stuff aint my style
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#867 [13:38] <Delaxarnyazer> i hate singleplayer but i do it for ftb and testing
#868 [13:38] <scarble> well maybe you should try it to confirm the problem? is it only on that chunk maybe? I've seen it actually when there's lots of lag and very complex structures in a chunk
#869 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Delaxarnyazer, only issue do/, if/na/nperson/ngoes/nlike/ndis
#870 [13:38] <Delaxarnyazer> ok
#871 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> s//n/
#872 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> \n
#873 [13:39] <Deadbird> hmm, apparently there are some youtube vids that adress this .. "chunk loading xray flash thingiemabob" in optifine. thanks dudes for pointing that out
#874 [13:39] <Delaxarnyazer> Srry Deadbird and tyteen4a03
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#876 [13:43] <Deadbird> found the solution! yay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag9TCoSKyZM
#877 [13:43] <VoxelHead> "Minecraft Tutorial: How to fix chunk errors/flashing xray in optifine." ( by AdarmisMaximus )
#878 [13:44] <Grum> Deadbird: so you are using optifine and you get a glitch? :/
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#882 [13:47] <bast1998> Hello, when I try to launch any launcher of servers it crashes with this crash report : http://www.mediafire.com/view/zaecgvjv7io6kmz/crash-2013-08-18_09.37.30-client.txt
#883 [13:47] <bast1998> Can please someone help me ?
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#885 [13:48] <Grum> bast1998: not the latest version, so no
#886 [13:48] <Grum> also modded, so double no :)
#887 [13:48] <bast1998> oh ok didn't know sorry
#888 [13:48] <Grum> Is Modded: Very likely; Jar signature invalidated
#889 [13:48] <Grum> Minecraft Version: 1.4.7
#890 [13:48] <Delaxarnyazer> ??> bast1998 mods
#891 [13:48] <VoxelHead> bast1998: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#892 [13:48] <VoxelHead> bast1998: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#894 [13:49] <bast1998> it's not a signleplayer mods it's the launcher of my favourite server that crashes when I launch it
#895 [13:49] <SirCmpwn> your chanserv entry message is obnoxious
#896 [13:49] <bast1998> but it's modded
#897 [13:50] <bast1998> thank you and bye
#898 [13:50] <clarjon1> bast1998: It's a custom launcher. And there are mods. And it's an OLD unsupported version of minecraft
#899 [13:50] <clarjon1> bast1998: It's a custom launcher. And there are mods. And it's an OLD unsupported version of minecraft
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#903 [13:50] <bast1998> hm ok
#904 [13:50] <clarjon1> SirCmpwn: It's necessary
#905 [13:50] <bast1998> thank you, bye :)
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#907 [13:50] <SirCmpwn> clarjon1: not really
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#909 [13:50] <Calinou> people don't read it, SirCmpwn makes a point
#910 [13:50] <clarjon1> SirCmpwn: You'd be surprised how many people come in here, say "I need help! I need help!" then leave 20 seconds later.
#911 [13:51] <Calinou> clarjon1: saw someone doing that yesterday...
#912 [13:51] <clarjon1> Calinou: Saw someone doing that -today-
#913 [13:51] <SirCmpwn> and does this entry message stop them?
#914 [13:51] <SirCmpwn> besides, they don't deserve help at that point
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#916 [13:51] <clarjon1> But, some people DO read them.
#917 [13:51] <clarjon1> As proved by your complaint :3
#918 [13:51] <Calinou> then keep the colour, but remove the highlight
#919 [13:51] <SirCmpwn> that's because a big-ass red entry message shows up on my screen whenever my ZNC cycles
#920 [13:51] <Calinou> the highlight is fugly, and makes the text hard to read
#921 [13:52] <SirCmpwn> just make a normal entry message, no colors
#922 [13:52] <clarjon1> It reads quite clearly here on my xchat
#923 [13:52] <clarjon1> SirCmpwn: we did. People ignored it.
#924 [13:52] <SirCmpwn> people still ignore it, apparently
#925 [13:52] <clarjon1> add in the garish colours, and hey! people notice it :)
#926 [13:52] <clarjon1> add in the garish colours, and hey! people notice it :)
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#928 [13:52] <SirCmpwn> s/notice/get pissed off at/
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#930 [13:53] <SirCmpwn> it discourages people who are knowledgable about IRC and Minecraft (like me) from being here
#931 [13:55] * Morrolan mumbles something
#931 [13:55] <Delaxarnyazer> And why are there  x2 in it ?
#932 [13:55] <Calinou> xchat too, but it's still fugly
#933 [13:55] <Morrolan> Probably non-ascii characters which your client doesn't render properly.
#934 [13:55] <clarjon1> nah
#935 [13:55] <Delaxarnyazer> I can read it
#936 [13:55] <clarjon1> it's a control code
#937 [13:56] <Grum> Just do: 0,4/!\ READ THIS 0,4/!\: zomg!
#938 [13:56] <Calinou> 4Welcome to the Minecraft Help channel. Just say what you need help with. Be as specific as possible. 7DO NOT JUST SAY "I NEED HELP".4 If nobody answers you, be patient and wait, somebody will be around.
#939 [13:56] <clarjon1> I'm pretty sure that's a control code.
#940 [13:56] <Calinou> this would be better, I guess
#941 [13:56] <Calinou> less ugly :P
#942 [13:56] <Deadbird> <@Grum> Deadbird: so you are using optifine and you get a glitch? :/ yea
#943 [13:56] <clarjon1> Possibly for a mIRC specific font thing
#944 [13:56] <Grum> Deadbird: maybe ... not use opticrap?
#945 [13:56] <Deadbird> optifine is nice
#946 [13:56] <Calinou> lol, opticrap
#947 [13:56] <SirCmpwn> finish rewriting your rendering system and then you can complain about optifine
#948 [13:56] <Calinou> Grum: then add rain splash toggle and such in the default game :P
#949 [13:56] <clarjon1> Deadbird: If it's nice, then why is it giving you glitches :3
#950 [13:56] * Morrolan snrks
#950 [13:57] <Calinou> and AA/AF :P
#951 [13:57] <Morrolan> This isn't #mcdevs, SirCmpwn. :P
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#953 [13:57] <Deadbird> clarjon1, because there are no bugs in any software, ever ever ever
#954 [13:57] <Deadbird> herp derp
#955 [13:57] <Grum> SirCmpwn: optifine gives no fsck's about all the problems they create
#956 [13:57] <Delaxarnyazer> I need opticrap otherwise its too laggy
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#958 [13:58] <Grum> Delaxarnyazer: then you need to buy a pc that is not crap :P
#959 [13:58] <Deadbird> i have a monster pc
#960 [13:58] <Deadbird> and mc still lags without optifine
#961 [13:58] <Deadbird> so yeah
#962 [13:58] <Morrolan> Can we stick to 'helpful' rather than 'grumpy'? :)
#963 [13:58] <Deadbird> valid argument
#964 [13:58] <clarjon1> ...
#965 [13:58] <Delaxarnyazer> Its a laptop from my grandfather and here at home I cant play it
#966 [13:58] <clarjon1> Deadbird: what's your graphics card?
#967 [13:58] <Deadbird> 680
#968 [13:58] <clarjon1> A number
#969 [13:58] <clarjon1> well that's helpful
#970 [13:58] <Grum> Deadbird: a monster pc? lol
#971 [13:58] <Lord_Ralex> We don't help with mods. So getting help with you using it won't happen either
#972 [13:59] <clarjon1> Clearly from that number I can determine it's manufacturer.
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#974 [13:59] <Grum> Deadbird: you are doing something horribly wrong if you do not have >300 fps with a 680
#975 [13:59] <clarjon1> And specific model line
#976 [13:59] <Grum> did you forget to buy a cpu? :)
#977 [13:59] <Deadbird> clarjon1, you should know what it is from that number
#978 [13:59] <Morrolan> clarjon1: To be fair, there's only one manufacturere which uses these kinds of numbers.
#979 [13:59] <clarjon1> yeah
#980 [13:59] <Morrolan> The other one uses four-digit numbers.
#981 [13:59] <clarjon1> nvidia
#982 [13:59] <Lord_Ralex> Deadbird, should, but you should give the most info you can
#983 [13:59] <clarjon1> GTX?
#984 [13:59] <clarjon1> hm
#985 [13:59] <Deadbird> novidjya gayforce 680 gtsex
#986 [13:59] <Deadbird> better?
#987 [13:59] <clarjon1> if you -need- optifine with that gpu
#988 [13:59] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Come on now.
#989 [14:00] <clarjon1> you're doing something terribly, terribly wrong
#990 [14:00] <Deadbird> minecraft is java
#991 [14:00] <Deadbird> nuff said
#992 [14:00] <clarjon1> like using windows update for your graphics drivers
#993 [14:00] <clarjon1> level of wrong
#994 [14:00] <Grum> Deadbird: lol, as if that matters O.o
#995 [14:00] <Deadbird> my drivers are top
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#997 [14:00] <SirCmpwn> haha, as if it doesn't matter
#998 [14:00] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Deadbird hopper/dxdiag
#999 [14:00] <VoxelHead> Deadbird: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1000 [14:00] <Grum> Deadbird: your system is broken, fact; even with my 580 i'm pulling >300fps O.o
#1001 [14:00] <Deadbird> lol
#1002 [14:00] <Lord_Ralex> What to know what I bet. Your cpu is trying to handle the graphics
#1003 [14:00] <clarjon1> Deadbird: Either your drivers are the wrong version, or your graphics card is damaged.
#1004 [14:01] <Deadbird> and i have three digit fps in almost all other games
#1005 [14:01] <Deadbird> with ultra settings
#1006 [14:01] <Lord_Ralex> Deadbird, do the dxdiag for us
#1007 [14:01] <Deadbird> but yeah my system is broken, not the piece of horse dung java software that is mein kraft :D
#1008 [14:01] <Morrolan> Then it might be something along the lines of Lord_Ralex's guess indeed.
#1009 [14:01] <Grum> Deadbird: we can see if we can fix it
#1010 [14:01] <Grum> Deadbird: it has nothing at all to do with java
#1011 [14:01] <Deadbird> its a disaster that anyone is using java at all
#1012 [14:01] <Grum> why?
#1013 [14:02] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Do you want help, or do you want to complain? :)
#1014 [14:02] <Lord_Ralex> It is a disaster arguing about it
#1015 [14:02] <Deadbird> because its the worst language ever
#1016 [14:02] <Grum> give some properly formulated arguments please :)
#1017 [14:02] <Deadbird> no i dont need help, i already solved my problem
#1018 [14:02] <clarjon1> <Deadbird> because its the worst language ever
#1019 [14:02] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Great.
#1020 [14:02] <Grum> Deadbird: it's actually one of the nicest (albeit verbose) languages
#1021 [14:02] <Deadbird> im just here for the quality chats
#1022 [14:02] <clarjon1> Try mastering the language you use to insult it with :3
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#1024 [14:03] <SirCmpwn> Deadbird hasn't met PHP, apparently
#1025 [14:03] * Grum is waiting for 'proper arguments' from Deadbird
#1025 [14:04] <Deadbird> what do you mean proper arguments? this is the internet, right? :D
#1026 [14:04] <SirCmpwn> he's right that minecraft is a poorly-written sack of shit, and that java isn't the greatest language, but he also seems like an idiot
#1027 [14:04] <Morrolan> SirCmpwn: Cut it out.
#1028 [14:04] <Deadbird> being an idiot doesnt make you/him/they/anyone wrong
#1029 [14:04] <Deadbird> :D
#1030 [14:04] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Kindly stop the provocative talk, too.
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#1032 [14:05] <Deadbird> i once was acused of having a talent for universal disliking
#1033 [14:05] <Grum> not having arguments to back up wild claims is; if you care to continue this banter feel free to pm or annoy me in another channel :)
#1034 [14:05] <Deadbird> i honestly dont know what i do or say to make ppl pissed off at me, but i dont do it on purpose
#1035 [14:05] <Grum> wild accusations + no brains to back them up
#1036 [14:05] <Grum> good combination; not lets have this discussion not in here :)
#1037 [14:05] <Morrolan> Deadbird: You heard Grum's offer. Now let's talk about more pleasant thing.
#1038 [14:06] <Morrolan> s/thing/things/
#1039 [14:06] * Morrolan starts babbling about the sun
#1039 [14:06] <SirCmpwn> like the chanserv entry message!
#1040 [14:06] <SirCmpwn> did we ever hear a resolution on that?
#1041 [14:06] <clarjon1> Which is awesome.
#1042 [14:06] <Morrolan> SirCmpwn: Yes, "it stays" was it, I think.
#1043 [14:06] * SirCmpwn sighs
#1043 [14:06] * Morrolan smiles
#1043 [14:07] <Deadbird> screw java, i code in assembly!
#1044 [14:07] <Morrolan> Out of curiosity, how come you see it more than once every time your bouncer connects?
#1045 [14:07] <clarjon1> Screw assembly, I code by editing the inodes with a magnetized needle directly!
#1046 [14:07] <Morrolan> Isn't there another level below, including a butterlfy?
#1047 [14:07] <SirCmpwn> every time my bouncer connects, not every time I connect to my bouncer
#1048 [14:07] * Wug links xkcd
#1048 [14:07] <Deadbird> hehehe clarjon1
#1049 [14:07] <SirCmpwn> since it has to rejoin all the channels
#1050 [14:07] <Morrolan> butterfly*
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#1053 [14:08] <Morrolan> SirCmpwn: I thought that's what I said. Anyway, your bouncer shouldn't be connecting all that much?
#1054 [14:08] <SirCmpwn> esper isn't my most stable connection, so it drops more often than most
#1055 [14:08] <Morrolan> Ah.
#1056 [14:08] <Lord_Ralex> Tried a different node SirCmpwn?
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#1058 [14:08] <SirCmpwn> I'm just connected to the load balancer
#1059 [14:08] <Morrolan> Easiest solution for you is probably to strip colour-codes on your client's side. *shrug*
#1060 [14:08] <SirCmpwn> but that's beside the point, the real issue is that the entry message is obnoxious
#1061 [14:08] <Deadbird> anyway, i had problems with chunkloading in optifine. i found a video that explained how to solve it. my problem is solved. i also need optifine to make minecraft run less laggy, and look nicer. there it is.
#1062 [14:08] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Good to hear that it's solved, then.
#1063 [14:09] <Deadbird> now lets commence with the quality chats
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#1065 [14:09] <Deadbird> non technical question
#1066 [14:09] <Grum> slightly unsure how optifine itself makes the game look nicer :/
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#1068 [14:10] <SirCmpwn> the connected textures and grass things make it look nicer
#1069 [14:10] <Deadbird> my farm is growing extremely slowly.. wheat, taters, and theres glowstones in the roof (two blocks of air between wheat + glow), and it should be extremely bright in there
#1070 [14:10] <Morrolan> Also the super-extra-wide view distance, probably.
#1071 [14:10] <Grum> meh overrated
#1072 [14:10] <Deadbird> why isnt it growing? also i have enough wasser
#1073 [14:10] <clarjon1> Grum: Some things here and there. smart grass is a favourite of mine. But other things can do that.
#1074 [14:10] <SirCmpwn> it's the little things, Grum
#1075 [14:10] <Morrolan> No, I actually very much like the visual effect of having the full side covered in grass. :)
#1076 [14:10] <Grum> Deadbird: chunks not loaded, slow tickrate@ server, bad luck?
#1077 [14:10] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Does it grow with bonemeal?
#1078 [14:10] <Morrolan> If it doesn't, then the location sucks.
#1079 [14:10] <Deadbird> hmm
#1080 [14:11] <Calinou> <Grum> Deadbird: you are doing something horribly wrong if you do not have >300 fps with a 680
#1081 [14:11] <Morrolan> Calinou! We're past that!
#1082 [14:11] <Calinou> in singleplayer, you can, with a poor CPU, or if you enabled desktop effects
#1083 [14:11] <Calinou> ah
#1084 [14:11] * Morrolan throws a VoxelHead at Calinou
#1084 [14:11] * Calinou throws a pony at Morrolan
#1084 [14:11] <Deadbird> it does grow with bone meal
#1085 [14:11] <Grum> Calinou: which i said; did he forgot to install a cpu
#1086 [14:11] <clarjon1> Deadbird: If it does grow with bonemeal, it could be that the random number generator hates you
#1087 [14:11] <clarjon1> Deadbird: ( Plants grow with a virtual roll of the dice, you see. )
#1088 [14:11] <Morrolan> Deadbird: Well, that's one issue ruled out. How long did you give it to grow, so far?
#1089 [14:11] <Deadbird> aproximately half the field is "mature" but green, the other half is mature and yellow, as in ready for harvest
#1090 [14:12] <Deadbird> a day
#1091 [14:12] <Deadbird> real life day
#1092 [14:12] <Grum> so the chunks werent loaded
#1093 [14:12] <Deadbird> same for the carrots and taters
#1094 [14:13] <clarjon1> Deadbird: you have to keep someone logged in within the "Chunk load radius" to keep the farm in memory, etc
#1095 [14:13] <Deadbird> hmm kay
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#1097 [14:13] <Grum> if the chunks are not loaded minecraft wont change them
#1098 [14:13] <clarjon1> The server doesn't keep the entire map in memory, just the chunks around where logged in users are located.
#1099 [14:13] <Morrolan> (plus spawn)
#1100 [14:14] <clarjon1> plus spawn
#1101 [14:14] <Deadbird> seems you are right
#1102 [14:15] <Deadbird> the greens slowly turned white one by one now that i am here
#1103 [14:15] <adi>
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#1106 [14:16] <Deadbird> all this talk about chunks made me hungry
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#1108 [14:16] <Morrolan> Clearly it's time for dinner, then.
#1109 [14:16] <Morrolan> Clearly it's time for dinner, then.
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#1112 [14:16] <Morrolan> adi: Hmm, that message looks empty to me. :D
#1113 [14:16] <Morrolan> Oh. Well.
#1114 [14:19] <Delaxarnyazer> Morrolan, adi, Also for me
#1115 [14:19] <Morrolan> I wasn't even aware you could send a message consisting of spaces only. :)
#1116 [14:19] <Delaxarnyazer> 
#1117 [14:19] <Delaxarnyazer> Like that ?
#1118 [14:19] <Grum>
#1119 [14:20] <Calinou> 
#1120 [14:20] <Delaxarnyazer> Only containing Bold
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#1122 [14:20] * Morrolan snrks
#1122 [14:20] <Morrolan> Fine, you've convinced me. ;D
#1123 [14:20] <Morrolan> Maybe it's some clients blocking it. :)
#1124 [14:20] <Calinou> 32 bit, lol
#1125 [14:20] <Deadbird> okay so another question
#1126 [14:20] <Grum>   
#1127 [14:21] <Deadbird> im trying to make a simple, yet effective xp farm, without using a mob spawner. possible? how?
#1128 [14:21] <Woogies> Just had pc wiped and reimaged. Reinstalling minecraft. Installing Java. Getting the following error when trying to start up minecraft......The registry refers to a nonexistent runtime environment installation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the file specified. Any thoughts?
#1129 [14:21] <Calinou> Deadbird: you can't
#1130 [14:21] <Calinou> making a mob farm is very time consuming, complicated and gives mixed rewards
#1131 [14:21] <Calinou> you better find a spawner :P
#1132 [14:21] <Lord_Ralex> Calinou, depends on the source
#1133 [14:21] <Deadbird> spawners are disallowed on the server, lagg issues
#1134 [14:21] <Calinou> Woogies: legit Windows copy?
#1135 [14:21] <Lord_Ralex> enderman farms in the end usually work
#1136 [14:22] <Calinou> it's lag, not lagg ;)
#1137 [14:22] <Woogies> I would think so, came from geek squad.
#1138 [14:22] <Morrolan> Deadbird: You get XP for certain actions. If harvesting stuff belongs to it, then I'd set up a big farm of something which grows fast.
#1139 [14:22] <Calinou> he's talking about vanilla XP, not mcmmo or jobs XP I guess
#1140 [14:23] <Deadbird> exp for enchants
#1141 [14:23] <Calinou> yes, vanilla XP :P
#1142 [14:23] <Morrolan> Hmm, I thought vanilla Minecraft added XP for mining and the like, a while ago?
#1143 [14:23] <Deadbird> need dem pee vee pee enchants
#1144 [14:23] <Calinou> mining and smelting
#1145 [14:23] <Deadbird> yes but thats like super slow
#1146 [14:23] <Morrolan> Ah, only mining and smelting, okay.
#1147 [14:23] <Deadbird> i need 30 lvl per 5 minute
#1148 [14:23] <Calinou> enchants are overrated, it's better to play for the sake of playing
#1149 [14:23] <Deadbird> lol no
#1150 [14:23] <Calinou> level 1 is good :P
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#1152 [14:23] <Deadbird> i make a living by killing and stealing
#1153 [14:23] <Morrolan> Indeed, I never saw the point of farming enchantments when I could just use /enchant :D
#1154 [14:23] <Deadbird> on this server
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#1156 [14:24] <Deadbird> they have creeperheal plugin on server
#1157 [14:24] <Morrolan> Anyway, if mining and smelting are the only things which give XP, and spawners are disabled, then you'll probably have to use the old-fashioned mobtraps.
#1158 [14:24] <Deadbird> and its not allowed to touch other players' blocks, except for ladders and tnt
#1159 [14:24] <Deadbird> so we blow up their house, steal their stuff, and creeperheal repairs their house afterwards
#1160 [14:24] <Deadbird> but their stuff is lost if chests are unlocked or they are killed
#1161 [14:24] <Deadbird> its a pretty cool setup
#1162 [14:25] <Morrolan> Sounds like a reasonable PvP server indeed.
#1163 [14:25] <Morrolan> Some of the 'hardcore' ones consist of mainly ruins, which is just a shame.
#1164 [14:25] <Deadbird> yeah
#1165 [14:25] <clarjon1> Yeah.
#1166 [14:25] <clarjon1> or the "vanilla" ones
#1167 [14:25] <Deadbird> there's only 1 block that tnt cant destroy, except for locked doors/chests/furnaces: obsidian
#1168 [14:25] <Deadbird> so its entirely possible to be "pvp safe" if you surround your house in obsidian
#1169 [14:25] <Deadbird> but that takes a while
#1170 [14:25] <clarjon1> and lock your door
#1171 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> Dragonene: adminium is also TNT-proof.
#1172 [14:26] <Deadbird> yea
#1173 [14:26] <Lord_Ralex> DopeGhoti, gj
#1174 [14:26] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: That one's not much of an option when you're a regular player. :p
#1175 [14:26] <Dragonene> Most certainly!
#1176 [14:26] <clarjon1> just abuse your friend's "/give" ;)
#1177 [14:26] <Dragonene> I'm being highlighted.
#1178 [14:26] * Dragonene unsummons self.
#1178 [14:26] <Deadbird> there was a map reset like a week ago... around christmas 2012, there was a group of dudes on this server that had an obsidian wall around their city. it was bout 150 blocks tall, atleast 400 blocks each side and 4 blocks thick
#1179 [14:26] <Morrolan> Dragonene: Huh, how come?
#1180 [14:26] <Deadbird> they spent months farming that sh1t
#1181 [14:27] <Delaxarnyazer> DopeGhoti, Adminium ?
#1182 [14:27] <Dragonene> Morrolan: I don't know? DopeGhoti wrote my name.
#1183 [14:27] <Dragonene> I don't think he meant to highlight me tho :)
#1184 [14:27] <clarjon1> Delaxarnyazer: Unobtanium. "bedrock"
#1185 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Dragonene: d[tab]. My bad.
#1186 [14:27] <Morrolan> Delaxarnyazer: Also known as bedrock.
#1187 [14:27] <Morrolan> Dragonene: Ah, I see. :)
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#1189 [14:27] <Dragonene> :)
#1190 [14:27] <clarjon1> Delaxarnyazer: called "Adminium" because pretty much only server admins can summon it.
#1191 [14:27] * Dragonene goes back to lurk in the Scrolls channels
#1191 [14:28] <Delaxarnyazer> Ok
#1192 [14:28] <lololee> I just downloasded Technic launcher and when I open it it says could not create the java virtual machine porgram will exit
#1193 [14:28] <lololee> i have premium mc
#1194 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> ??> Lord_Ralex mods
#1195 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> er
#1196 [14:28] <VoxelHead> Lord_Ralex: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1197 [14:28] <VoxelHead> Lord_Ralex: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1198 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> lololee: ^
#1199 [14:28] * Lord_Ralex smacks DopeGhoti
#1199 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> Why is tab completing failing me so much today?
#1200 [14:28] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: You need to get your tab completion checked out.
#1201 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> It must be Monday.
#1202 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> I never could get the hang of Mondays.
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#1204 [14:29] <Morrolan> I belive it is. :)
#1205 [14:29] <clarjon1> Mon Aug 19 14:29:25 EDT 2013
#1206 [14:30] <Deadbird> it's only monday if you make it
#1207 [14:30] <Deadbird> monday is an ancient concept construed by our evil ancestors.. you need not subscribe to this wicked tradition!
#1208 [14:30] <Deadbird> in fact, today is andreasday
#1209 [14:30] <Deadbird> and tomorrow is andreasday aswell
#1210 [14:31] <Deadbird> i believe the rest of the year is andreasday indeed
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#1212 [14:33] <Deadbird> also, weekend routines may or may not affect your monday
#1213 [14:34] <Calinou> 18<26Morrolan> Sounds like a reasonable PvP server indeed.
#1214 [14:34] <Deadbird> just putting that out there
#1215 [14:34] <Calinou> on reasnosable PvP servers, nothing happens
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#1217 [14:34] <Delaxarnyazer> clarjon1, Mon aug 19 20:34 UTC+01:00 2013
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#1219 [14:37] <Martina> I have a problem to download minecraft card to my computer
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#1221 [14:39] <Wug> Martina: I think you might be confusing some terminology there. A minecraft card is a physical object you buy in a store, you don't download it
#1222 [14:39] <Wug> are you having trouble downloading minecraft after buying a card?
#1223 [14:39] * Tedster_Sleep is now known as Tedster
#1224 [14:39] <Martina> yes
#1225 [14:40] <Wug> so the process is, go here: http://minecraft.net/download and download whichever version is for your operating system. what part of that isn't working?
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#1227 [14:41] <Martina> this is what I got Pixel Format Not Accelerated and I do not know what to do
#1228 [14:42] <KotoroShinoto> so does anybody have any idea why modifying permgen size might cause minecraft to fail launch because it couldn't find or load main class?
#1229 [14:42] <Wug> KotoroShinoto: what os did you say you were on
#1230 [14:42] <KotoroShinoto> linux x64
#1231 [14:42] <Wug> ??> Martina hopper/dxdiag
#1232 [14:42] <VoxelHead> Martina: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1233 [14:42] <Wug> KotoroShinoto: which distro
#1234 [14:42] <Wug> I saw that you said you were using sun's java
#1235 [14:43] <KotoroShinoto> ubuntu, but i'm using oracle java from an additional ppa
#1236 [14:43] <Wug> oracle/sun/whatever
#1237 [14:43] <KotoroShinoto> ya
#1238 [14:43] <Calinou> don't use PPAs
#1239 [14:43] <Calinou> don't use oracle java
#1240 [14:43] <Wug> have you tried using the openjdk?
#1241 [14:43] <KotoroShinoto> i'd rather open my skull with a can opener
#1242 [14:43] <Calinou> why?
#1243 [14:44] <Wug> well then please open your skull with a canopener and try using the openjdk
#1244 [14:44] <KotoroShinoto> i've had things fail to work with openjdk myself (i sometimes program in java)
#1245 [14:44] <KotoroShinoto> i need oracle for my own stuff
#1246 [14:44] <Calinou> bad programming then
#1247 [14:44] <Wug> opekjdk7 is actually the reference implementation
#1248 [14:44] <Wug> openjdk*
#1249 [14:44] <Wug> so if it's not working there, oracle is doing it wrong by letting it work
#1250 [14:44] <KotoroShinoto> then tell mojang to take down their message about which java to use
#1251 [14:44] <KotoroShinoto> i'm not here to have an ideology argument
#1252 [14:44] <Calinou> it's not like mojang uses linux daily
#1253 [14:44] <Wug> we probably should, it's outdated
#1254 [14:45] <Grum> Calinou: at all
#1255 [14:45] <Martina> I do not know how to Create Secret Gist
#1256 [14:45] <Wug> it was around since version 6, where oracle's java was the reference implementation
#1257 [14:45] <KotoroShinoto> if i gave jvm 4G for heap size and 2G for permgen would that be a problem
#1258 [14:45] <Wug> Martina: don't bother creating a secret one
#1259 [14:45] <Calinou> you don't give excessive amounts of RAM to java too :P
#1260 [14:46] <KotoroShinoto> this machine can handle it i'm planning to use a lot of mods
#1261 [14:46] <Martina> so what I have to do?
#1262 [14:46] <Calinou> that has nothing to do with RAM usage
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#1264 [14:46] <KotoroShinoto> it does when the default VM size can't hold the mods
#1265 [14:46] <Wug> KotoroShinoto: I recommend letting it sort out most of that stuff automatically. 1GB is fine for probably all mods you could ever use at once, and 2GB will be fine for everything ever
#1266 [14:46] <KotoroShinoto> i've run out of heap space b4 wug
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#1268 [14:47] <KotoroShinoto> 2 is probably fine i'd agree, and i've also had permgen crashes with certain mods
#1269 [14:47] <Wug> mods don't always play well together
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#1271 [14:47] <Grum> KotoroShinoto: then maybe you are leaking memory :P
#1272 [14:47] <KotoroShinoto> or the mods are
#1273 [14:47] <Grum> KotoroShinoto: i mean, yes you will run out of memory when you do stupid stuffs (or mods)
#1274 [14:47] <KotoroShinoto> but i'd like to avoid said issues without dumping the mods
#1275 [14:47] <Wug> ^ there are combinations of mods that no amount of memory or resources are good enough to make stable
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#1277 [14:47] <Grum> KotoroShinoto: you cannot avoid running out of memory if something is leaking
#1278 [14:48] <Grum> unless you install Infinite RAM (tm)
#1279 [14:48] <Grum> but send me some sticks of that
#1280 [14:48] <KotoroShinoto> if it leaks slowly enough it'll last through a play session ;p
#1281 [14:48] <KotoroShinoto> but ya
#1282 [14:48] * Wug sends Grum 1 infinity of ram
#1282 [14:48] <KotoroShinoto> or at least crash less often
#1283 [14:48] <KotoroShinoto> I can handle that
#1284 [14:49] <Wug> the way minecraft is written encourages heavy use of memory by mods
#1285 [14:49] <KotoroShinoto> but still any hypothesis as to why it didnt like the permgen size change?
#1286 [14:49] <Wug> no idea
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#1288 [14:49] <Wug> have you tried removing that directive and seeing if that lets it launch
#1289 [14:49] <KotoroShinoto> yes thats why i know that its responsible
#1290 [14:49] <KotoroShinoto> the other directives are fine
#1291 [14:49] <Grum> wait; you gave 2gb of permgen? O.o
#1292 [14:50] <KotoroShinoto> i have a machine with 32 GB
#1293 [14:50] <KotoroShinoto> i have plenty of ram to hand to it
#1294 [14:50] <Wug> you know, adding more ram just makes GC harder after a point
#1295 [14:50] <Grum> just to be on the safe side. running 64bit 'all the things' right?
#1296 [14:50] <KotoroShinoto> yes
#1297 [14:50] <Wug> Grum: java won't even try to start if you hand it 4GB on a 32 bit
#1298 [14:50] <Wug> it will nope you into next week
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#1300 [14:50] <Grum> might on linux
#1301 [14:51] <KotoroShinoto> no its still the same pointer limitatino
#1302 [14:51] <Grum> linux is far more creative with assigning swap :p
#1303 [14:51] <KotoroShinoto> you can't have the correct pointer size if it doesnt allow 64 bit memory address
#1304 [14:51] <Grum> limitation swimitation!
#1305 [14:51] <Wug> you get 2GB of usable space, the other 2GB being reserved for the kernel
#1306 [14:52] <Grum> in either case, permgen is really never suppose to be bigger than 256mb in EXTREME cases
#1307 [14:52] <Wug> and java won't let you allocate all usable space to the heap
#1308 [14:52] <Grum> and that is only when you load tons and TONS of constants/classes/....
#1309 [14:52] <KotoroShinoto> I just wish the vm options allowed you to tell it something along the lines of "your entire VM has XGB amount of space to use"
#1310 [14:52] <KotoroShinoto> for work i have to use the GATK and that shit eats ram for breakfast
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#1312 [14:53] <KotoroShinoto> but on clusters java doesnt play very nice due to job memory limits
#1313 [14:53] <KotoroShinoto> http://www.broadinstitute.org/gatk/ <--
#1314 [14:53] <Grum> you can?
#1315 [14:53] <Grum> -Xmx...
#1316 [14:53] <KotoroShinoto> thats heap
#1317 [14:53] <KotoroShinoto> the rest of the vm grows along with it
#1318 [14:54] <Grum> meh then deduct the other tiny areas that pale in comparison to the 'multiple GB' :P
#1319 [14:54] <KotoroShinoto> I would
#1320 [14:54] <KotoroShinoto> but it doesnt tell me how big its going to be
#1321 [14:54] <Grum> also permgen doesnt just randomly grow
#1322 [14:54] <KotoroShinoto> no its not just permgen for that issue
#1323 [14:54] <KotoroShinoto> its everything that isn't the heap
#1324 [14:55] <KotoroShinoto> i've had to roughly figure it out by running java with different args to see which ones crash
#1325 [14:55] <KotoroShinoto> the cluster will send a sigterm to any job that tries to grow beyond the job's ram limit
#1326 [14:55] <Wug> heap overhead isn't limitable
#1327 [14:56] <Wug> there is no practical way to limit it
#1328 [14:56] <Grum> euuh
#1329 [14:56] <Grum> you have permgen, heap, threadstacksize
#1330 [14:56] <Wug> Grum: heap overhead is what kills minecraft on x86 with -Xmx1G
#1331 [14:56] <Grum> and a little bit of 'extra' but not much O.o
#1332 [14:56] <KotoroShinoto> plus all the objects that contain the VM itself
#1333 [14:56] <Wug> it becomes a lot extra with something that produces as many objects as minecraft does
#1334 [14:56] <KotoroShinoto> which on a genomics task can become quite largea ctually
#1335 [14:57] <Grum> objects that contain the vm itself?
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#1337 [14:57] <KotoroShinoto> b/c fuckin genome itself is 3G and then the reads can get to 10G+
#1338 [14:57] * AuBot kicked KotoroShinoto from #minecrafthelp (Reason: otoroShinoto :Please keep it civil.)
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#1341 [14:57] <KotoroShinoto> ok didnt know the language police was a robot XD
#1342 [14:57] <KotoroShinoto> b/c the genome itself is 3G and then the reads can get to 10G+
#1343 [14:58] <KotoroShinoto> i dunno why they used java
#1344 [14:58] * Delaxarnyazer ´s Head blows up
#1344 [14:58] <KotoroShinoto> should have been programmed in C
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#1346 [14:58] <Wug> using -Xmx should roughly limit that, stuff read goes to the heap
#1347 [14:58] <Grum> matters little
#1348 [14:58] <Grum> probably just bad coders
#1349 [14:58] <Wug> unless you read your file into an array of 10 billion Integers
#1350 [14:58] <Wug> or Characters
#1351 [14:59] <KotoroShinoto> its probably more than that
#1352 [14:59] <KotoroShinoto> knowing genetic algorithms
#1353 [14:59] <Wug> no I mean
#1354 [14:59] <KotoroShinoto> oh you mean a single array
#1355 [14:59] <KotoroShinoto> chances are the objects are more subdivided than that
#1356 [14:59] <Wug> if you're storing your dataset in some sort of object light, compact format there will be little heap overhead
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#1358 [15:00] <KotoroShinoto> whatever the case is if I give it around 10G for the heap it seems to use about 4 to 5 G overhead but it doesnt stick to a linear growth
#1359 [15:00] <Grum> quite sure the memory usage is just really inefficient
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#1361 [15:00] <Grum> but not because of java, just because of failure in programming
#1362 [15:01] <KotoroShinoto> no suprise there
#1363 [15:01] <Grum> 4-5g of overheaD?
#1364 [15:01] <Grum> you mean java object-overhead? O.o
#1365 [15:01] <Wug> seeing heap overhead of about 30% the heap size is typical
#1366 [15:01] * Delaxarnyazer ´s Head blows even more up
#1366 [15:01] <Wug> or at least, it seems typical in most of the real world things ive seen
#1367 [15:01] <KotoroShinoto> if i dont give it aleast that much extra in the job memory over what I gave to the vm heap it gets killed by hte cluster about 50% of the way through
#1368 [15:02] <Grum> can someone quantify 'heap overhead' a bit better?
#1369 [15:02] <KotoroShinoto> anyway like i said I wish there was a way to tell it how much memory it had available to the entire thing as a hard limit
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#1371 [15:02] <KotoroShinoto> would make my life easier
#1372 [15:03] <Wug> Grum: not really. its fuzzy
#1373 [15:03] <Wug> you'd have to have written java to understand it
#1374 [15:03] <Wug> (not programmed in java, but like actually implemented the jvm)
#1375 [15:03] * Delaxarnyazer ´s Head blows even even more up
#1375 [15:03] <Grum> its the internal structure it uses to facilitate the gc structure?
#1376 [15:04] <KotoroShinoto> its not just GC
#1377 [15:04] <KotoroShinoto> its other parts of the VM
#1378 [15:04] * Delaxarnyazer wanna help people
#1378 [15:04] <Wug> and whatever else it allocates that isn't on the heap
#1379 [15:04] <Grum> well i guess all reachability of the java stuffs :p
#1380 [15:04] <Grum> (s/stuffs/internals/)
#1381 [15:05] <KotoroShinoto> i suspect they chose java because they'd have massive memory leaks otherwise (b/c bad coders)
#1382 [15:06] <KotoroShinoto> not to mention the whole platform indepedence thing
#1383 [15:06] <Grum> and now they have leaks because of bad code ;)
#1384 [15:06] <KotoroShinoto> ya well in this case its less of a leak and more of a sucky efficiency
#1385 [15:07] <Wug> it really depends on the software running
#1386 [15:07] <Wug> since memory allocation and deallocation isn't explicit in java, allocated objects may end up being kept left around that aren't used
#1387 [15:07] <Wug> JVM memory allocated to support those will not be freed until those objects are cleared
#1388 [15:08] <KotoroShinoto> thats the main reason I dont think genomic programming should be done in java
#1389 [15:08] <Wug> memory "leaked" in java programs can facilitate "leaked" jvm support memory
#1390 [15:08] <KotoroShinoto> because of the sheer number of allocations/deallocations that you would need to do
#1391 [15:08] <KotoroShinoto> its better to be sure the memory is freed
#1392 [15:08] <Grum> you could jsut have a smart insideout data structure
#1393 [15:08] <Grum> i mean .... its not rocketsurgery
#1394 [15:08] <KotoroShinoto> no its really not
#1395 [15:09] <KotoroShinoto> but its also slightly faster to work without a vm when your'e doing millions & billions of operations that search through a genome 3GB characters in size
#1396 [15:09] <KotoroShinoto> any improvement becomes palpable at that point
#1397 [15:10] <KotoroShinoto> + its not like it has a UI, its totally commandline based anyway
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#1399 [15:11] <Grum> KotoroShinoto: depends what sort of searching you are doing :p
#1400 [15:12] <KotoroShinoto> well they do improve it a bit in aligners by using matrix transforms and creating an index of the genome
#1401 [15:13] <KotoroShinoto> its not so easy to do when you're forced to iterate over most of those 3GB
#1402 [15:13] <KotoroShinoto> like when its doing a scan for large insertions/deletions
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#1404 [15:14] <Lutzee> I returned at the wrong time didn't I
#1405 [15:15] <KotoroShinoto> maybe?
#1406 [15:15] <Delaxarnyazer> anyone has an recommendation for an Irc chat for Linux (Debian)
#1407 [15:15] <Lutzee> hmm
#1408 [15:15] <Wug> Delaxarnyazer: xchat
#1409 [15:15] <Wug> or irssi
#1410 [15:15] <KotoroShinoto> i'm using konversation, xchat always went too slow for me (but it has to install a lot of KDE support to use it)
#1411 [15:15] <Delaxarnyazer> Wug, what are you using ?
#1412 [15:15] <Lutzee> KotoroShinoto: what
#1413 [15:16] <KotoroShinoto> xchat isn't responsive for me for some reason
#1414 [15:16] <KotoroShinoto> it just lags to shit
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#1416 [15:16] <KotoroShinoto> probably something in the hardware ... couldn't say
#1417 [15:16] <KotoroShinoto> probably something in the hardware ... couldn't say
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#1419 [15:16] <Lutzee> try hexchat then, more recently developed
#1420 [15:17] <Wug> Delaxarnyazer: hexchat (windows xchat clone)
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#1422 [15:17] <Delaxarnyazer> Hexchat is what im using for windows :-p
#1423 [15:17] <Lutzee> Otherwise irssi/weechat would be better, i've never heard of konversation but sounds like some odd KDE thing
#1424 [15:17] <KotoroShinoto> Lutzee: ubuntu x64, so would i be running that in wine?
#1425 [15:17] <KotoroShinoto> it is a KDE thing but it works well
#1426 [15:18] <Lutzee> Delaxarnyazer: It has linux version too, Its what im using until I can be bothered to set up weechat on this laptop
#1427 [15:18] <Lutzee> KotoroShinoto: ^^
#1428 [15:18] <Wug> is hexchat available on loonicks?
#1429 [15:18] <clarjon1> i think so
#1430 [15:18] <Lutzee> I compiled from source tbh
#1431 [15:18] <clarjon1> I prefer xchat tho :)
#1432 [15:19] <KotoroShinoto> hexchat seems to be a github project
#1433 [15:19] <Lutzee> but there is an unofficial ubuntu repo for it
#1434 [15:19] <Delaxarnyazer> ok
#1435 [15:19] <clarjon1> Lutzee: you mean a ppa?
#1436 [15:19] <Lutzee> clarjon1: yea
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#1438 [15:20] <clarjon1> neat.
#1439 [15:20] <minecrafter> i need help
#1440 [15:20] <Lutzee> ??> minecrafter ask
#1441 [15:20] <VoxelHead> minecrafter: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1442 [15:20] <VoxelHead> minecrafter: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1443 [15:21] <KotoroShinoto> kk i'm gonna try it too ;P
#1444 [15:21] <KotoroShinoto> just to see
#1445 [15:21] <Lutzee> clarjon1: As im on debian it was easier to just compile from source, theres make stuff there
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#1449 [15:23] <FLHerne> Lutzee: You should've heard of Konversation, it's awesome :D
#1450 [15:23] <minecrafter> i need help with the minecraft pixle format not accelerated
#1451 [15:24] <Lutzee> FLHerne: I installed a distro with KDE once, It lasted all of 2 hours i think
#1452 [15:24] <Lutzee> ??> minecrafter hopper/dxdiag
#1453 [15:24] <VoxelHead> minecrafter: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1454 [15:24] <clarjon1> I love KDE myself.
#1455 [15:24] <minecrafter> i dont understand the dxdiag thing
#1456 [15:24] <KotoroShinoto> I like KDE apps but i'm not so sure about the desktop
#1457 [15:25] <FLHerne> Lutzee: The desktop itself is a bit Marmite (Too many widgets!) but the apps are great
#1458 [15:25] <Lutzee> On topic for now please ;)
#1459 [15:25] <FLHerne> KotoroShinoto: Hey, I was saying that
#1460 [15:25] <KotoroShinoto> so i install some of the apps like Kdevelop and konversation
#1461 [15:25] <Lutzee> minecrafter: Which part?
#1462 [15:25] <KotoroShinoto> does anybody know how codechicken & player api stuff gets installed in 1.6.2
#1463 [15:25] <KotoroShinoto> is it still an into-the-jar operation or does it drop in mods directories?
#1464 [15:25] <Lord_Ralex> KotoroShinoto, we cannot help with mods]
#1465 [15:26] <clarjon1> ??> KotoroShinoto mods
#1466 [15:26] <Lutzee> KotoroShinoto: Go read the instructions
#1467 [15:26] <minecrafter> the end part
#1468 [15:26] <VoxelHead> KotoroShinoto: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1469 [15:26] <VoxelHead> KotoroShinoto: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1470 [15:26] <Lutzee> minecrafter: That isn't very clear
#1471 [15:26] <KotoroShinoto> the instructions for the mods are friggin terrible because the change is so recent
#1472 [15:26] <KotoroShinoto> >.>
#1473 [15:27] <KotoroShinoto> if any of you DO know and you dont want the discussion in chat due to the rules just tell me in PM i'm looking for the answer on my own anyway
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#1475 [15:27] <minecrafter> where it says to give you dxdiag to the minecraft resources i dont know where to go
#1476 [15:28] <clarjon1> KotoroShinoto: You're going to facepalm at my pm
#1477 [15:28] <Lord_Ralex> minecrafter, we are the resources it refers to
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#1479 [15:29] <Calinou> FLHerne: konversation is ok, but can be very slow
#1480 [15:29] <Calinou> xchat is generally faster for me
#1481 [15:29] <minecrafter> oh thank you
#1482 [15:30] <minecrafter> do i just give it to you
#1483 [15:30] <Lutzee> Yes
#1484 [15:30] <Lord_Ralex> minecrafter, post the link here, yes
#1485 [15:30] <minecrafter> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/171240ee26e53ab1bdae
#1486 [15:31] <FLHerne> Calinou: Hrm, not had trouble with that. Quassel was definitely a lot slower. XChat will run on anything though, of course
#1487 [15:31] <Lord_Ralex> minecrafter, that computer cannot run minecraft
#1488 [15:31] <minecrafter> dang
#1489 [15:32] <minecrafter> thank you for helping even though it wont work
#1490 [15:32] <FLHerne> minecrafter: Ouch, you have an S3 card in 2013? :-/
#1491 [15:33] <Lutzee> Anyway, Who needs a full Desktop enviroment anyway :)
#1492 [15:33] <Lutzee> FLHerne: and a 2200+
#1493 [15:33] <Lutzee> That thing is ancient
#1494 [15:33] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Not me, I run a full set of KDE apps (minus Plasma and KWin) under Xmonad now :D
#1495 [15:34] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Cmon, it's at least x86 :P
#1496 [15:34] <minecrafter> i need to upgrade :(
#1497 [15:34] <Lutzee> >.>
#1498 [15:34] <minecrafter> i did not even realize that
#1499 [15:34] <Lutzee> minecrafter: Okay, I have a raspberry Pi, It probably performs the same as your current PC and the Pi is the size of a credit card
#1500 [15:35] * FLHerne tried some early version of MC on a G3 (can't remember if it worked)
#1500 [15:35] <Tedster> I have a Raspberry Pi, it's really, really slow
#1501 [15:35] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Nah, a Pi is even worse still
#1502 [15:35] <Lutzee> FLHerne: I still don't like the Idea of using anythign KDE
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#1504 [15:35] <clarjon1> I had a raspberry pie, it was delicious.
#1505 [15:35] <minecrafter> my computer is still fast
#1506 [15:35] <Lord_Ralex> minecrafter, to you it is, but to the world, it is slow
#1507 [15:36] <Lord_Ralex> well, world/current hardware
#1508 [15:36] <Lutzee> minecrafter: My PC will boot in 5 seconds
#1509 [15:36] <minecrafter> that might be true
#1510 [15:36] <clarjon1> minecrafter: it may seem fast, but technically speaking, it is out of date. It does not have the advances in hardware that is required to be able to run Minecraft properly, if at all.
#1511 [15:36] <minecrafter> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#1512 [15:36] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Why? Dolphin/KATE/Okular(!)/DigiKam/KdenLive/Konversation are all the best applications of their type IMO
#1513 [15:37] <clarjon1> minecrafter: It's like trying to get your old 8track player to play CDs, in terms of technological advances :)
#1514 [15:38] <minecrafter> good thing i have minecraft on xbox 360
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#1516 [15:38] <minecrafter> :p
#1517 [15:38] <Delaxarnyazer> Lemme dxdiag my pc lets see if it would be able to run mc But i think it wont
#1518 [15:38] <FLHerne> minecrafter: That version is awful though :-(
#1519 [15:38] <minecrafter> but pc is better
#1520 [15:38] <clarjon1> It miiiight work. But it'll be kludgy and unstable and not easy to manage :)
#1521 [15:38] <clarjon1> Best bet is to upgrade your rig :)
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#1524 [15:39] <minecrafter> i bet mojang will never update it to be like pcminecraft
#1525 [15:40] <Calinou> they technically can't
#1526 [15:40] <Luis> hey guys
#1527 [15:40] <Calinou> on top of that, 4J studios works on the xbox edition, not mojang
#1528 [15:40] <Luis> im having problem with running minecraft again
#1529 [15:40] <clarjon1> ??> Luis ask
#1530 [15:40] <Luis> can anybody help?
#1531 [15:40] <VoxelHead> Luis: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1532 [15:40] <VoxelHead> Luis: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1533 [15:41] <Luis> My minecraft have stopped of opening again
#1534 [15:41] <minecrafter> oh i thought it was mojang
#1535 [15:41] <Lutzee> FLHerne: tunar,vim,docviewer,thunar,(dontneed),weechat
#1536 [15:41] <Delaxarnyazer> http://pastie.org/private/wrm8hhgxqlkzrdu5n561gq <--- my Dxdiag for fun
#1537 [15:42] <Luis> i try to deleting it and install it again but it didnt work
#1538 [15:42] <Luis> ???
#1539 [15:43] <Lutzee> Delaxarnyazer: Your PC appears to be missing a CPU and GPU
#1540 [15:43] <Luis> what that Lutzee?
#1541 [15:43] <Lutzee> Luis: nothing you need to be concerned about
#1542 [15:43] <minecrafter> thank you for your help mabey in a few days i might buy a new laptop
#1543 [15:43] <FLHerne> Lutzee: disagree, Kate Vi-mode, 3xdisgree :P
#1544 [15:44] <Delaxarnyazer> Lutzee, But it doesnt
#1545 [15:44] <Luis> okya....
#1546 [15:44] <Luis> ?
#1547 [15:44] <Luis> i said my problem already
#1548 [15:45] <Luis> Clarjon1? u there
#1549 [15:45] <Calinou> "n.v.t." ._.
#1550 [15:45] <Calinou> ?? client
#1551 [15:45] <VoxelHead> client: OS-Independent client:
#1552 [15:45] <VoxelHead> client: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar
#1553 [15:45] <Calinou> Luis: try using the .jar launcher, see above
#1554 [15:46] <minecrafter> bye
#1555 [15:46] <Luis> is that the new one it wont work
#1556 [15:46] <Luis> because i be trying it everytime
#1557 [15:46] <Luis> i unstall minecraft install it again and nothing
#1558 [15:47] <Lutzee> FLHerne: But so much screen realestate is eaten by the stupid GUI :<
#1559 [15:47] <Calinou> Luis: try it
#1560 [15:47] <Luis> okay i will now
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#1562 [15:47] <FLHerne> Lutzee: Keyboard-shortcut-hideable GUI panels ;-)
#1563 [15:48] <Lutzee> Or youknow just use vim
#1564 [15:48] <Lutzee> brb
#1565 [15:49] <Luis> calinou, it didnt work
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#1567 [15:50] <Delaxarnyazer> I only have Available OS Memory: 768MB RAM
#1568 [15:50] <Delaxarnyazer> Lutzee,
#1569 [15:50] <Delaxarnyazer> ^
#1570 [15:50] <FLHerne> Lutzee: But then you don't have the fancy GUI panels whn you want them
#1571 [15:50] <Calinou> Lutzee: geany!
#1572 [15:50] <Calinou> you can use it as a text editor, or IDE.
#1573 [15:51] <Calinou> and it's lightweight and opens quickly
#1574 [15:51] <sea366> i can not get minecraft to start.
#1575 [15:52] <sea366>
#1576 [15:52] <Luis> ?????
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#1578 [15:53] <Luis> anybody?
#1579 [15:53] <Calinou> ?? patience
#1580 [15:53] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1581 [15:53] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#1582 [15:54] <Luis> i will be patience but i dont wanna wait a hold day for an answer
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#1584 [15:55] <sea366> i am having a trublshoot
#1585 [15:55] <Lutzee> Calinou: I have geany installed actually
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#1588 [15:56] <clarjon1> Luis: well, did it -say- anything when it "didn't work"?
#1589 [15:56] <Lutzee> FLHerne: This is just nicer to use tbhhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73774243/PC/Screenshot%20-%20190813%20-%2020%3A47%3A59.png :)
#1590 [15:57] <clarjon1> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73774243/PC/Screenshot%20-%20190813%20-%2020%3A47%3A59.png :)
#1591 [15:58] <clarjon1> fixed the link
#1592 [15:58] <Lutzee> oops
#1593 [15:58] <Calinou> +1 for chromium
#1594 [15:59] <Tedster> +2 for GUI
#1595 [15:59] <Calinou> -3 for harsh linux
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#1597 [15:59] <Luis> clarjon1,it dont say anything i just try to open it like noramal double click and i clikc run next it load and nothing show up
#1598 [16:00] <DelaxLinux> Im now using Konversation for Linux
#1599 [16:00] <Lutzee> Calinou: What?
#1600 [16:00] <Lutzee> Tedster: When i have time i'll be moving to i3 probably
#1601 [16:01] <Tedster> Okay
#1602 [16:01] * DelaxLinux is now known as DelaxLinux|Zzz
#1603 [16:01] * Tedster is now known as Tedster_Violin
#1604 [16:02] <Tedster_Violin> Yes, I play the Violin.
#1605 [16:02] <Calinou> better play tuba, akordeon and klein bottle
#1606 [16:02] * Cha0tixz is now known as Cha0tixz|Away
#1607 [16:02] <Calinou> it may eventually get Xonotic developers deaf
#1608 [16:02] <Calinou> it may eventually get Xonotic developers deaf
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#1610 [16:04] <Lutzee> hmm, 6 days on mobile internet, I'll probably run over tbh
#1611 [16:04] <Lutzee> I best get the extra 1GB of data option my brother got :/
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#1613 [16:05] <Luis> i wait
#1614 [16:06] <Calinou> Luis: what happens when you try to run it,
#1615 [16:09] <Luis> i cant see what u wrote becuase of this ad------>
#1616 [16:09] <Lutzee> o.o
#1617 [16:09] <Grum> Lutzee: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73774243/PC/Screenshot%20-%20190813%20-%2020%3A47%3A59.png <-- that on earth did you do with the 100% random indentation? O.o
#1618 [16:10] <Calinou> that indentation looks weird, yes
#1619 [16:10] <Calinou> even me finds it weird, lol
#1620 [16:10] <Lutzee> Grum: ugh im not sure what happened tbh
#1621 [16:10] <Grum> the 'float Left' is even more wtf
#1622 [16:11] <Grum> because if i read it correctly, you do not actually have a loop
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#1624 [16:11] <Luis> calinou, it just stay normal a little load and it stop nothing show up
#1625 [16:11] <Grum> and it just assigns '0.f' to Left until the app has opened :p
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#1627 [16:11] <Grum> err while it is opened
#1628 [16:11] <Grum> and never read any keypresses
#1629 [16:11] <Lutzee> Grum: It appears my vim config went wonky
#1630 [16:11] <Grum> not just that
#1631 [16:12] <Grum> i mean, the float Left = 0.f; is actually the body of the whileloop
#1632 [16:12] <Lutzee> And that was half written >.>
#1633 [16:12] <Calinou> Luis: huh?
#1634 [16:13] <Grum> and this is yet another reason why not using cuddly braces is ... painfully painful
#1635 [16:14] <Luis> calinou, i have to tell it again dont You see it in the history?
#1636 [16:15] <Lutzee> I guess reopening the last file i worked on wasn't the best idea to screenshot... It was late at night when i was bored
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#1638 [16:15] <Calinou> Luis: that's not an accurate report at all...
#1639 [16:15] <Calinou> Grum: can you help Luis? I have to go :p
#1640 [16:15] <Sunny> hello
#1641 [16:15] <Grum> <Luis> My minecraft have stopped of opening again <-- so what did you do last time to fix it, what have you changed since last time so it broke again?
#1642 [16:16] <Sunny> I can not install the minecraft on my laptop
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#1644 [16:16] <Grum> Sunny: and what OS is your laptop running?
#1645 [16:16] <Sunny> Windows 8
#1646 [16:17] <Sunny> it says I do not have upto date graphics driver
#1647 [16:17] <Grum> and you are getting which error exactly?
#1648 [16:17] <Grum> ah, and you said it worked before right?
#1649 [16:17] <Sunny> never
#1650 [16:17] <Lord_Ralex> Grum, diff person
#1651 [16:17] <Grum> oh
#1652 [16:17] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Sunny hopper/dxdiag
#1653 [16:17] <Sunny> my son has been waiting to get it installed
#1654 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Sunny: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1655 [16:17] <Grum> lols fails
#1656 [16:17] <Grum> yes dxdiag please :D
#1657 [16:17] <Grum> Luis: still here then?
#1658 [16:18] <Sunny> I did the dxdiag
#1659 [16:18] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, did you post it like how that page said to?
#1660 [16:18] <Sunny> then what
#1661 [16:19] <Sunny> sorry, do not follow, thanks for your patience
#1662 [16:19] <Luis> grum i deleted a java and install it again and also did to minecraft and last thing i did is restore my computer to the earliest time
#1663 [16:19] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, follow the article posted here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1664 [16:19] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, just read and do what it says, even if you think you already did it
#1665 [16:20] <Grum> Luis: so what is the problem? what happens?
#1666 [16:20] <Grum> Luis: also what os are you using? I'm guessing windows? what version?
#1667 [16:22] <Grum> Luis: if you want to get helped, please respond a bit faster, I'll be going to bed soon :)
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#1669 [16:23] <Luis> grum i caant see what u said because there this ad here
#1670 [16:23] <Grum> then remove the ad? install adblock?
#1671 [16:23] <Grum> resize the page?
#1672 [16:24] <Sunny> ok sir
#1673 [16:24] <Sunny> here is the URL
#1674 [16:24] <Sunny> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d47fbe42fb763fd6577c
#1675 [16:25] <Grum> Luis: the webpage where you are coming from has no ads at all, can you take a picture of what you are seeing and upload it on imgur.com ?
#1676 [16:26] <Grum> Sunny: did you install win8 on that laptop?
#1677 [16:26] <Sunny> toshiba
#1678 [16:26] <Sunny> yes
#1679 [16:26] <Grum> so what was on it before win8? :)
#1680 [16:27] <Luis> okay grum
#1681 [16:27] <Sunny> windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
#1682 [16:27] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, Intel nor Toshiba has video drivers for Windows 8 for that computer
#1683 [16:27] <Sunny> hmm
#1684 [16:27] <Sunny> what are my options sir
#1685 [16:27] <Grum> Sunny: unless you want to fiddle around trying to piece together the drivers manually, you best install win7 again
#1686 [16:28] <Sunny> oh no
#1687 [16:28] <Grum> http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/intel-workaround/ <-- definately not trivial, most likely going to break your system if you do it wrong ... or even if it goes right it might not work
#1688 [16:28] <Luis> grum im using google chrome
#1689 [16:28] <Sunny> I guess I will need to buy a new laptop
#1690 [16:29] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, you don't need a new computer
#1691 [16:29] <Grum> Sunny: install win7?
#1692 [16:29] <Grum> works fine on that
#1693 [16:29] <Lord_Ralex> Sunny, you can try to do what that article says, or just install windows 7 again
#1694 [16:29] <Sunny> ok
#1695 [16:29] <Grum> we can help you with the drivers on win7. on win8 its a lost cause :/
#1696 [16:29] <Sunny> thank you so much
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#1698 [16:29] <Sunny> I am not good with MS laptops
#1699 [16:29] <Sunny> so have to think
#1700 [16:30] <Grum> you will not get superb performance out of minecraft in either case
#1701 [16:30] <Sunny> what is the best laptop to buy
#1702 [16:30] <Grum> it should be playable but that is about all we can say about it :p
#1703 [16:30] <Sunny> or shall I buy Apple
#1704 [16:30] <Grum> the best will cost you
#1705 [16:30] <Sunny> any advice will be helpful
#1706 [16:31] <Grum> i mean, get something that doesn't exclusively have an intel videocard
#1707 [16:31] <Luis> grum im changing to internet explorer how can i be back here
#1708 [16:31] <Sunny> to see my son happy, priceless
#1709 [16:31] <Grum> so either ATI or NVidia at least
#1710 [16:31] <Grum> luis: go to the same url as you are at now
#1711 [16:31] <Luis> okay brb
#1712 [16:31] <Sunny> thanks guys
#1713 [16:32] <Grum> it should work on win7 so you might want to try that first :)
#1714 [16:32] <Sunny> roger that
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#1722 [16:36] <Grum> luis: working better now? not weird ads all over the place?
#1723 [16:36] <luis> no ads thanks
#1724 [16:36] <luis> okay now
#1725 [16:36] <Grum> so, what is the problem?
#1726 [16:36] <luis> i dont know why my minecraft wont open now
#1727 [16:37] <Grum> what are you trying to run? Minecraft.exe?
#1728 [16:37] <luis> the problem is that minecraft wont open no more in my compputer
#1729 [16:37] <Grum> what are you trying to run? Minecraft.exe?
#1730 [16:37] <luis> yeaa
#1731 [16:38] <Grum> and what does it do when you try to run it? does it say anything at all?
#1732 [16:38] <luis> nope it just stop loading and nothing happen
#1733 [16:38] <Grum> do you have java?
#1734 [16:38] <luis> yes
#1735 [16:39] <Grum> Can you start cmd.exe and (Start -> Run) and type: java -version ?
#1736 [16:39] <Grum> so that would be: "java -version" without the "
#1737 [16:39] <Grum> and tell me the version it returns
#1738 [16:39] <luis> okay let me do it
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#1740 [16:41] <luis> type it in the cmd?
#1741 [16:41] <Grum> yes
#1742 [16:41] <Grum> "java -version" (without the ", and hit enter)
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#1744 [16:42] <luis> it says error occurred
#1745 [16:43] <Grum> "java is not recognized as an internal or external command," ... ?
#1746 [16:43] <luis> well it doesnt only say that it also says.....
#1747 [16:44] <Grum> operable program or batch file.
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#1750 [16:45] <luis> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError:java/lang/object
#1751 [16:45] <luis> it says that ^
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#1754 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> ??> luis java/reinst
#1755 [16:45] <VoxelHead> luis: You probably mean win/java/reinst.
#1756 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> gah
#1757 [16:45] <Lord_Ralex> ??> luis win/java/reinst
#1758 [16:45] <VoxelHead> luis: You need to reinstall Java.
#1759 [16:45] <VoxelHead> luis: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#1760 [16:45] <Grum> luis: do what voxelhead says; your java is broken
#1761 [16:46] <luis> okay let me do it
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#1764 [16:55] <luis> i dont get it why java not deleting
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#1766 [16:56] <Grum> luis: does it give any errors?
#1767 [16:57] <luis> grum will you be online a little later im going to eat now if that ok i come back to the same site
#1768 [16:57] <Grum> no
#1769 [16:57] <Grum> i'll be sleeping in ~25 mins :)
#1770 [16:58] <Grum> i warned you for this about 30mins ago? :)
#1771 [16:58] <luis> ohh ok so tell me what i do next after java again
#1772 [16:58] <Grum> install java
#1773 [16:58] <Grum> and play? :)
#1774 [16:58] <luis> i know You did
#1775 [16:58] <luis> i will try grum
#1776 [16:58] <luis> thanks for you help by the way
#1777 [16:58] <luis> byeee now
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#1793 [17:38] <Enderwolf> Is anyone there
#1794 [17:38] <luis> hello anyone there?
#1795 [17:39] <Enderwolf> Hello
#1796 [17:39] <luis> i dont know they should be
#1797 [17:40] <luis> helooooooooooooooooooooooo
#1798 [17:40] <Wug> luis: I'll be around in about an hour. im good at unbreaking java
#1799 [17:40] <Wug> luis: I'll be around in about an hour. im good at unbreaking java
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#1801 [17:41] <Wug> I can't use teamviewer from work
#1802 [17:41] <Extreme> Enderwolf, hello
#1803 [17:41] <luis> wug you thing You can help me out?
#1804 [17:41] <Wug> luis: yes, in an hour
#1805 [17:41] <Extreme> luis, maybe we can help, what's the issue?
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#1808 [17:42] <luis> hello
#1809 [17:42] <Extreme> <Extreme> luis, maybe we can help, what's the issue?
#1810 [17:43] <Wug> broken java
#1811 [17:43] <Wug> I don't think he can uninstall it
#1812 [17:44] <Extreme> ??< win/javara
#1813 [17:44] <luis> i deleted java and i need the correct java version for minecraft
#1814 [17:44] <luis> i have a 64 bits
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#1816 [17:44] <Wug> luis: what exactly do you mean when you say "deleted"
#1817 [17:45] <luis> before i go from this chat here i was talking to a os about my minecraft not openning
#1818 [17:45] <luis> he told me to removed java and re- installed again
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#1822 [17:49] <luis> huh?
#1823 [17:49] <Extreme> luis, download this: http://download.thewebatom.net/51a4aace017d1/JavaRa-2.2.zip
#1824 [17:49] <luis> okay
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#1826 [17:49] <Extreme> luis, once you have it, open the file
#1827 [17:50] <xMopxShell> Hi, I'm on windows 7 64 bit with 12GB ram, taskmgr reports 71% of that ram is "free", yet when I launch minecraft with -Xmx2048m I get the error message: "Could not reserve enough space for object heap"
#1828 [17:50] <Extreme> luis, there should be a folder called "JavaRa", open it, then there should be a file called "JavaRa.exe", run that. In the menu, select "Remove Java Runtime"
#1829 [17:50] <xMopxShell> Yet, I can launch 4 or more minecrafts in parallel with -Xmx1024m. Wot
#1830 [17:51] <Qowface> xMopxShell: You're on 32-bit Java.
#1831 [17:51] <Extreme> ^ or an env variable
#1832 [17:51] <xMopxShell> Oh crap, when the hell did a 32 bit jre get on here
#1833 [17:52] <luis> the application or the other thing
#1834 [17:52] <Qowface> That's what you get unless you choose otherwise.
#1835 [17:52] <Extreme> luis, open the file you downloaded
#1836 [17:52] <Extreme> luis, there should be a folder called "JavaRa", open it, then there should be a file called "JavaRa.exe", run that. In the menu, select "Remove Java Runtime"
#1837 [17:52] <xMopxShell> I installed a 64 bit one initially but I think another program i installed was bundled with a 32 bit jre
#1838 [17:52] <Lutzee> xMopxShell: Ever had to install java for in a browser?
#1839 [17:52] <xMopxShell> Unsure
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#1841 [17:53] <Lutzee> Normally thats where i see it come froom
#1842 [17:53] <Lutzee> from
#1843 [17:53] <xMopxShell> I think it came with a windows ISO builder tool
#1844 [17:54] <luis> i dont see no javara.exe
#1845 [17:54] <xMopxShell> the only reason i ever install java for the browser is for runescape haha
#1846 [17:54] <xMopxShell> but that html5 now :)
#1847 [17:54] <Extreme> luis, did you open the "JavaRa" folder?
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#1849 [17:54] <luis> yes i did
#1850 [17:55] <Lutzee> xMopxShell: Anyway, you can define what JRE you use in the minecraft profile inside the launcher
#1851 [17:55] <Extreme> luis, then what do you see?
#1852 [17:55] <xMopxShell> Ah I usually use magiclauncher
#1853 [17:55] <xMopxShell> thanks for the help
#1854 [17:55] <Lutzee> luis: Is there a file called just "javara"?
#1855 [17:55] <luis> there only javara (application) and javara.def
#1856 [17:56] <Lutzee> luis: javara (application)
#1857 [17:56] <Lutzee> luis: javara (application)
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#1859 [17:56] <Lutzee> Extreme: The normal user does not have file extensions shown by default, :)
#1860 [17:57] <luis> okay
#1861 [17:57] <Extreme> but it's not that hard to realize it's an exe :/
#1862 [17:57] <Extreme> luis, n the menu, select "Remove Java Runtime"
#1863 [17:57] <Extreme> In*
#1864 [17:57] <Lutzee> Extreme: Again, most users have no clue what .exe means at all because they never see it
#1865 [17:58] <luis> chill out extreme i dont usally work on cumputer stuff okay? if you dont feel good helping me then tell i leave
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#1868 [18:01] <luis> hello
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#1870 [18:02] <Extreme> luis, we're here
#1871 [18:02] <luis> why dont you reply
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#1873 [18:02] <Extreme> <Extreme> luis, In the menu, select "Remove Java Runtime"
#1874 [18:02] <luis> after selcting remove java runtime what next
#1875 [18:02] <luis> i did
#1876 [18:02] <Extreme> luis, what do you see in the drop down?
#1877 [18:03] <luis> nothing
#1878 [18:03] <JackZwizard> Hi there.... My computer does not seem to want to download the driver.
#1879 [18:03] <Extreme> luis, so it dosen't say 'Java Runtime' anything of that sort?
#1880 [18:04] <Extreme> ??> JackZwizard hopper/dxdiag
#1881 [18:04] <VoxelHead> JackZwizard: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1882 [18:04] <JackZwizard> It is asking me to copy and paste.... I copied it, but it will not let me paste it the given box.
#1883 [18:05] <luis> i clicked next
#1884 [18:05] <Extreme> JackZwizard, it will unless your clip board is empty
#1885 [18:05] <JackZwizard> I right click... and option is there for me to send it out.
#1886 [18:05] <Extreme> luis, answer my question before doing something..
#1887 [18:06] <Extreme> JackZwizard, copy the dxdiag
#1888 [18:06] <Extreme> JackZwizard, everything
#1889 [18:06] <JackZwizard> yes..... everything
#1890 [18:06] <luis> alright then
#1891 [18:06] <Extreme> JackZwizard, then go to the site, and press CTRL+V
#1892 [18:06] <luis> im not at step 1
#1893 [18:06] <luis> now*
#1894 [18:06] <Extreme> luis, so it dosen't say 'Java Runtime' anything of that sort?
#1895 [18:07] <luis> yeaa it does
#1896 [18:07] <luis> i did back where it says
#1897 [18:07] <luis> where all the 4 choices at
#1898 [18:07] <Wug> Extreme: now you understand why I don't use javara
#1899 [18:07] <Wug> its basically useless
#1900 [18:08] <Wug> I removed that factoid and somebody re-added it
#1901 [18:08] <Wug> and when I get home, I'm going to re-remove it
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#1903 [18:08] <Extreme> luis, press 'Run Uninstaller'
#1904 [18:08] <Extreme> bleh
#1905 [18:09] <JackZwizard> what do I need to do to get this going?
#1906 [18:09] <Lutzee> ??- win/javara
#1907 [18:09] <Lutzee> Wug: done
#1908 [18:09] <luis> your meant remove java runtime
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#1910 [18:09] <Wug> k
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#1912 [18:09] <Wug> luis: wait until 6:30 and I'll fix it over teamviewer
#1913 [18:10] <Wug> (that's in 20 minutes)
#1914 [18:10] <Extreme> JackZwizard, once you did that give us the link
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#1917 [18:10] <luis> why waiting until 6:30
#1918 [18:10] <JackZwizard> ok... you guys are speaking a different language..... what do i do?
#1919 [18:10] <Lutzee> luis: Hes busy working/commuting
#1920 [18:11] <luis> ohh okay
#1921 [18:11] <Extreme> JackZwizard, press the button and give us the link
#1922 [18:11] <JackZwizard> wha button?
#1923 [18:11] <luis> so which one of you guys will help me out at 6:30
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#1925 [18:12] <Extreme> luis, sigh, press next
#1926 [18:12] <Extreme> luis, then press "Preform Removal Routine"
#1927 [18:13] <luis> you didnt tell me what to choose
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#1929 [18:13] <Extreme> luis, just go to step 2..
#1930 [18:14] <luis> look im still stuck in in the first thing that pop out
#1931 [18:14] <luis> where there 4 choices
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#1933 [18:14] <Badger> hello i need help with my friend trying to connect to my server
#1934 [18:14] <Extreme> luis, press "Remove Java Runtime"
#1935 [18:14] <Extreme> luis, then in the drop down, what do you see?
#1936 [18:15] <JackZwizard> Are you still talking to me?
#1937 [18:15] <Extreme> JackZwizard, no
#1938 [18:15] <luis> it show nothing
#1939 [18:15] <Extreme> luis, press next
#1940 [18:15] <luis> remenber i unstall java
#1941 [18:15] <Extreme> luis, then press "Preform Removal Routine"
#1942 [18:15] <JackZwizard> ok....
#1943 [18:15] <luis> keep going
#1944 [18:15] <Extreme> luis, then press "Preform Removal Routine"
#1945 [18:16] <luis> then
#1946 [18:16] <luis> okay right?
#1947 [18:16] <Extreme> luis, tell us when it's done
#1948 [18:16] <luis> click download?
#1949 [18:16] <Extreme> luis, then install this: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=79065
#1950 [18:17] <luis> okay
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#1953 [18:18] <Badger> if any one is available i ned help with my server
#1954 [18:19] <luis> okay i download it what next
#1955 [18:19] <Mikko_blu> Badger, what do you need?
#1956 [18:19] <Extreme> luis, you install it..
#1957 [18:20] <luis> yes
#1958 [18:20] <Extreme> luis, then did you install it?
#1959 [18:20] <Badger> my friends cant connect to my server and i portforwarded it and gave them my ipv4 , but still nothing
#1960 [18:20] <luis> yeyes i did
#1961 [18:20] <Mikko_blu> Badger, you used port 25565, right?
#1962 [18:20] <Badger> yes
#1963 [18:20] <Extreme> luis, open Minecraft
#1964 [18:20] <luis> okay lets see
#1965 [18:21] <Mikko_blu> Badger, do you know how to use command prompt?
#1966 [18:21] <Badger> yes
#1967 [18:21] <Mikko_blu> Badger, open it up and type ipconfig, and tell me what it says under Local Area connection, Ipv4
#1968 [18:21] <luis> yesss
#1969 [18:21] <luis> it worked
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#1971 [18:22] <luis> thnka so much
#1972 [18:22] <luis> thanks*
#1973 [18:22] <GES> Hello, I downloaded minecraft for windows and then wanted to start it, but nothing happens, no message
#1974 [18:22] <Extreme> luis, now, was that so hard?
#1975 [18:22] <luis> lol naa
#1976 [18:22] <Mikko_blu> GES, what version of windows?
#1977 [18:22] <luis> for you not
#1978 [18:22] <luis> thanks man
#1979 [18:22] <GES> Windows7
#1980 [18:22] <luis> it took me 6 days
#1981 [18:22] <luis> to worked this ut
#1982 [18:22] <Mikko_blu> Extreme can you do the dxdiag thing for GES
#1983 [18:23] <Mikko_blu> i forget what the specific command is
#1984 [18:23] <Extreme> ??> GES hopper/dxdiag
#1985 [18:23] <VoxelHead> GES: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1986 [18:23] <Extreme> wait
#1987 [18:23] <Badger> it doesnt say an ipv4 it says media disconnected
#1988 [18:23] <Extreme> ??> GES win/java/reinst
#1989 [18:23] <VoxelHead> GES: You need to reinstall Java.
#1990 [18:23] <VoxelHead> GES: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
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#1992 [18:24] <Extreme> GES, forget the first thing
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#1994 [18:24] <GES> forget dxdiag or reinstall Java?
#1995 [18:24] <Mikko_blu> Dxdiag.
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#1997 [18:25] <GES> OK, I will reinstall Java and come back then
#1998 [18:25] <GES> Is ist right to install english version? i am in Germany
#1999 [18:26] <Mikko_blu> Like is it all right to install it?
#2000 [18:27] <Spikkit> I am currently trying to run the latest version of MInecraft on my Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition and it told me "The error is caused by a lack of up to date graphics drivers." I then clicked "Fix this problem" so it sent me to a website that told me to copy some DirectX information and put it on gist. I need to install drivers but it doesnt tell me what manufacturer to use.
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#2002 [18:28] <Spikkit> So what do I do?
#2003 [18:28] <Extreme> Spikkit, give us the link although I'm pretty sure your computer is too old
#2004 [18:28] <Spikkit> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b5ed290a1ad7c473c3fb
#2005 [18:29] <Badger> mikko, im ready when you are it says media state : disconnected
#2006 [18:29] <Spikkit> Im only using this old laptop because my newer one is broken. This is mostly just for fun. I just reinstalled a fresh version of Windows XP and I was just wanting to see if I could run it.
#2007 [18:29] <J_DaLock> how come when i log into my account it can't approve my email?
#2008 [18:30] <Mikko_blu> Badger fot this? http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5q45itr5yholzf6#
#2009 [18:30] <Extreme> Spikkit, too old
#2010 [18:30] <Spikkit> Crap. Ok
#2011 [18:30] <Spikkit> Thanks anyway
#2012 [18:30] <GES> @extreme, the deinstallation of Java6 doesn't work (DLL couldn't be found Java update 22), is there a way around
#2013 [18:30] <Lutzee> GMA910, ouch :.
#2014 [18:30] <Lutzee> :/
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#2016 [18:31] <Extreme> GES, your computer it's self is garbage
#2017 [18:31] <J_DaLock> how come when i log into my account it can't approve my email?
#2018 [18:31] <GES> sorry, doent understand what that means
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#2020 [18:32] <Extreme> GES, you need a new computer
#2021 [18:32] <GES> why that?
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#2023 [18:33] <Extreme> ??> GES requirements
#2024 [18:33] <VoxelHead> GES: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements, which are belied by its retro style. http://is.gd/mc_requirements
#2025 [18:34] <GES> sorry, the computer is only 1 year old DELL
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#2027 [18:34] <Mikko_blu> Extreme have him upload his Dxdiag
#2028 [18:35] <Extreme> GES, oh, my bad, wrong person :P
#2029 [18:35] <Badger> mikko, yes it just says media disconnected
#2030 [18:36] <Mikko_blu> Badger are you on Wifi?
#2031 [18:36] <Badger> yes
#2032 [18:37] <Extreme> GES, that dosen't sound good
#2033 [18:37] <GolfBeast> I am fairly new to minecraft and i see there is a new update aka 1.6. I have been trying to update the game however it is always failing to update. It seems i get the update to work and i start the game and play. It says 1.6. I keep playing then i logoff. Then when i go to play again it says to update my game again even though i thougt i had already complete the update. I am confused and need help. Thanks!
#2034 [18:37] <Extreme> GES, what's the full error?
#2035 [18:38] <GES> wait a moment
#2036 [18:38] <Mikko_blu> Badger, There should be an address that starts with "192.168.xxx.xxx" then. For example, mine is 192.168.1.3. Make sure you have internal address set to the address for your computer (again, 192.168.xx.xxx) in the router config
#2037 [18:38] <Badger> yes i have 192.168.1.4
#2038 [18:39] <Badger> but that address doesnt appear where he is telling me where it should be sorry for confusion
#2039 [18:39] <Mikko_blu> Hmm, badger can you upload a picture of your routers config?
#2040 [18:39] <GES> Error-Message in German: Es liegt ein dieses Windows Install-Paket betreffendes Problem vor. Eine für den Abschluss der Installation erforderliche DLL konnte nicht ausgeführt werden.
#2041 [18:39] <Mikko_blu> as long as you know the adress badger, thats good
#2042 [18:40] <Badger> ok, yes i do,
#2043 [18:40] <Mikko_blu> test
#2044 [18:40] <Mikko_blu> test
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#2047 [18:40] <GES> tra to translate there is a problem with the installer-package. a DLL which is needed to complete deinstallation couldn't be called.
#2048 [18:40] <Mikko_blu> GES, when do you get that error?
#2049 [18:40] <Mikko_blu> When starting minecraft?
#2050 [18:41] <GES> nearly at the end of deinstallation JAVA 6 Update 26
#2051 [18:41] <GolfBeast> hello?
#2052 [18:41] <Jake0720> Hello
#2053 [18:41] <Mikko_blu> Do you have any antivirus that could be blcking it?
#2054 [18:41] <GolfBeast> did you get my question
#2055 [18:41] <GolfBeast> about how to update correctly
#2056 [18:42] <Mikko_blu> ??> GolfBeast win/reinst
#2057 [18:42] <VoxelHead> GolfBeast: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2058 [18:42] <VoxelHead> GolfBeast: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2059 [18:43] <Badger> no, just avg and malware bytes
#2060 [18:43] <GolfBeast> i am on a mac
#2061 [18:43] <Mikko_blu> ??> GolfBeast mac/reinst
#2062 [18:43] <VoxelHead> GolfBeast: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2063 [18:43] <VoxelHead> GolfBeast: To do so, run the following command in a terminal: rm -fr ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/{bin,texturepacks,launcher,resources,assets,libraries,versions,resourcepacks}
#2064 [18:44] <GES> @extreme? Are you still there?
#2065 [18:44] <Extreme> GES, you have something messed up
#2066 [18:44] <Mikko_blu> Badger, can you upload a picture of the port forward configuration?
#2067 [18:44] <Extreme> GES, leave that and insall a newer version of Java
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#2069 [18:44] <Badger> yup 1 sec
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#2071 [18:44] <GES> ok, i will try
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#2074 [18:45] <GolfBeast> sorry but where do i find the terminal
#2075 [18:46] <Mikko_blu> i'm not sure, i don't use mac D: Extreme, do you know?
#2076 [18:46] <Extreme> ??> GolfBeast mac/terminal
#2077 [18:46] <VoxelHead> GolfBeast: You can reach the Terminal by going to Application > Utilities > Terminal. Alternatively, search for Terminal in the Finder.
#2078 [18:46] <GolfBeast> i am horriblw with computers lol
#2079 [18:47] <GolfBeast> does minecraft have a customer support phone number?
#2080 [18:47] <GolfBeast> it would be easier to talk
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#2082 [18:48] <GolfBeast> hello?
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#2085 [18:49] <Badger> um sry guys i dont know how to do that lol, is it easy?
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#2087 [18:51] <Mikko_blu> one sec badger
#2088 [18:51] * Extreme goes elsewhere
#2088 [18:51] <Tic_Toc25> Hi,my father bouth the game , and when i download,when i click on play,load and i see.Thia error is caused by lack of up to date graphics drivers.Can you help me?
#2089 [18:52] <Extreme> ??> Tic_Toc25 hopper/dxdiag
#2090 [18:52] <VoxelHead> Tic_Toc25: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2091 [18:52] <Tic_Toc25> i done that and nothing change
#2092 [18:53] <Extreme> Tic_Toc25, that was not supposed to solve your issue..
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#2094 [18:53] <Extreme> Tic_Toc25, if you read it right, give us the link
#2095 [18:53] <Tic_Toc25> wait i will do that agian
#2096 [18:54] <Mikko_blu> Badger, it should look like this in your router
#2097 [18:54] <Mikko_blu> http://puu.sh/45WMc.png
#2098 [18:55] <Badger> yes it does look like that
#2099 [18:56] <Mikko_blu> Hmmmmm and it still doesnt work>
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#2101 [18:56] <Tic_Toc25> Can you help me?
#2102 [18:57] <Extreme> ??> Tic_Toc25 hopper/dxdiag
#2103 [18:57] <VoxelHead> Tic_Toc25: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2104 [18:58] <Tic_Toc25> What i do on gists
#2105 [18:58] <Extreme> Tic_Toc25, read what the article says
#2106 [18:58] <Tic_Toc25> emplain for me
#2107 [18:58] <Tic_Toc25> explain
#2108 [18:58] <Mikko_blu> It has directions in the article
#2109 [18:59] <Mikko_blu> you need to read the article
#2110 [18:59] <Badger> should i also do port triggereing?
#2111 [18:59] <Tic_Toc25> yes
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#2113 [19:00] <Mikko_blu> Badger, to be honest, i have no idea what the difference is between port triggering and port forwarding
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#2116 [19:00] <Badger> yea same, ill try some other stuff, if you want add me on steam Badger Badger
#2117 [19:01] <Badger> thanks everyone!
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#2119 [19:01] <Mikko_blu> I'm not going to add him on steam.
#2120 [19:01] <NecroSpinner> I want to change my email what i have to do to change?
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#2122 [19:04] <GodFather> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/821367c6251f6e1edfe1
#2123 [19:05] <NecroSpinner> How I change my email?
#2124 [19:05] <Extreme> GodFather, one moment
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#2127 [19:07] <Extreme> intel is so broke :/
#2128 [19:07] <sugoi> Extreme: how so?
#2129 [19:07] <Extreme> sugoi, http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ 404's and loads *slow*
#2130 [19:08] <sugoi> oops :)
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#2132 [19:08] <NecroSpinner> Could anyone ansewr me?
#2133 [19:08] <NecroSpinner> Could enyone answer me?
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#2140 [19:16] <nate_> hi scoot
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#2145 [19:20] <Crazytoad08> I just updated my minecraft pe on my iPad and when I went on the new updated one all my worlds had vanished, is there any way I can get my worlds back because I had some really amazing worlds on it
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#2148 [19:22] <Crazytoad08> Help me with this people
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#2150 [19:22] <nate_> my minecraft just saed uh oh somthing went wrong
#2151 [19:23] <Extreme> nate_, what error?
#2152 [19:23] <Crazytoad08> Guys say something I need your help
#2153 [19:23] <Bagelbee> I used the new launcher to go back to Minecraft Beta 1.7.3, I appear not to be able to go back to 1.6.2.
#2154 [19:23] <nate_> im 1.6.2
#2155 [19:23] <Crazytoad08> I don't k ow want your on about
#2156 [19:23] <Extreme> Bagelbee, edit profile -> use version: set it to latest -> save
#2157 [19:23] <Extreme> nate_, what error?
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#2159 [19:24] <sugoi> Crazytoad08: we do pc version help here. but a short googling found this: http://www.chaptercheats.com/qna/iphone-ipod/104303/Minecraft-Pocket-Edition-Answers.htm?qid=25394
#2160 [19:24] <sugoi> Crazytoad08: hope it helps, sorry
#2161 [19:24] * sugoi afk
#2161 [19:24] <Bagelbee> Oh, thank you so ver much, I must have had an issue.
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#2168 [19:29] <nate__> nater
#2169 [19:29] <nate_> im on 1.6.2
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#2180 [19:49] <baileyajayi> How do I join MC servers?
#2181 [19:50] <Extreme> baileyajayi, find a server, and add it to the list, then connect
#2182 [19:50] <baileyajayi> Where's the list, I'm new to this
#2183 [19:50] <Extreme> ??> baileyajayi smp/servers
#2184 [19:50] <VoxelHead> baileyajayi: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2185 [19:50] <VoxelHead> baileyajayi: The MC forums' list can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try #smp, although it is not too active anymore.
#2186 [19:50] <Extreme> baileyajayi, find a server IP
#2187 [19:50] <baileyajayi> I know
#2188 [19:50] <Extreme> baileyajayi, and add it to your Minecraft list
#2189 [19:50] <baileyajayi> I new to IRC not minecraft
#2190 [19:51] <baileyajayi> No how do I join a server on IRC?
#2191 [19:51] <Extreme> <baileyajayi> How do I join MC servers?
#2192 [19:52] <baileyajayi> How do I join IRC SERVERS?
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#2194 [19:52] <DarkTheEnchanter> hello I need help here is my dxdiag
#2195 [19:52] <DarkTheEnchanter> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4e66b4890146172d917d
#2196 [19:52] <Extreme> ??> baileyajayi ask/irc
#2197 [19:52] <Extreme> baileyajayi, then ask in #help
#2198 [19:52] <baileyajayi> #help
#2199 [19:52] <Extreme> baileyajayi, this is MINECRAFT help
#2200 [19:53] <baileyajayi> How do I talk on minecraft servers on IRC??????
#2201 [19:53] <Extreme> baileyajayi, what?
#2202 [19:53] <Extreme> baileyajayi, IRC and Minecraft are two different things
#2203 [19:53] <baileyajayi> How do I talk on servers on IRC
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#2205 [19:53] <Extreme> DarkTheEnchanter, one moment
#2206 [19:54] <Extreme> baileyajayi, IRC and Minecraft are two different things
#2207 [19:54] <baileyajayi> But I've seen people talk on irc on minecraft servers
#2208 [19:54] <DarkTheEnchanter> I cannot login because of a lack of up to date graphics drivers
#2209 [19:54] <Extreme> DarkTheEnchanter, install: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/Windows/320.49/320.49-desktop-winxp-32bit-english-whql.exe&lang=us&type=GeForce
#2210 [19:55] <DarkTheEnchanter> Is this one going to work? Last time I tried it said not enough info to download
#2211 [19:56] <Extreme> baileyajayi, IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is a way for people on the Internet to chat. Minecraft does NOT use IRC
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#2213 [19:56] <Extreme> baileyajayi, maybe someone made a plugin / mod to link them, but their two different things
#2214 [19:56] <Wug> they're*
#2215 [19:57] <baileyajayi> But I have seen servers with IRC
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#2222 [20:02] <rob_> I have two kids and both want to play minecraft against each other. Do I need to buy two copies?
#2223 [20:03] <Extreme> rob_, generally, yes
#2224 [20:04] <rob_> okay. So I already have one profile tied to my e-mail account. The kids are too young for their own account. Can I have two profiles tied to one account?
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#2226 [20:04] <juan_> ablan español de casualidad?
#2227 [20:04] <rob_> that is, two profiles tied to one e-mail account
#2228 [20:05] <Wug> rob_: is it a gmail account?
#2229 [20:05] <rob_> no, but I could change it to one or simply use one.
#2230 [20:06] <Wug> the system does not currently support multiple accounts per email address
#2231 [20:06] <Wug> or multiple profiles per account
#2232 [20:07] <Wug> so just use a second email address. gmail has the nifty feature that you can prepend "something+" to your email account and it will get sent to a specific folder in your inbox, and minecraft sees these as different addresses
#2233 [20:07] <Wug> so you could have one on you@gmail.com and otherminecraft+you@gmail.com
#2234 [20:07] <DarkTheEnchanter> Extreme, when I tried to download that link, it says, "This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware
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#2236 [20:08] <rob_> Thanks, wug. I think that'll work. I appreciate the help!
#2237 [20:09] <Extreme> Wug, i'm pretty sure the new system supports that now
#2238 [20:10] <Extreme> DarkTheEnchanter, try this: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/57623
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#2240 [20:11] <Wug> Extreme: multiple accounts per email, or multiple minecrafts per account
#2241 [20:11] <Extreme> Wug, multiple minecrafts per account
#2242 [20:12] <Wug> oooo neat.
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#2244 [20:12] <Wug> nonetheless, not suitable for siblings.
#2245 [20:12] <Wug> that would end poorly.
#2246 [20:12] <Wug> when they figured out they could log in as each other
#2247 [20:13] <techno156|School> XD
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#2249 [20:21] <brian94327> What will be in the next minecraft update?
#2250 [20:21] <Extreme> brian94327, we don't know
#2251 [20:21] <brian94327> D:
#2252 [20:21] <techno156|School> We don't wrok for Mojang
#2253 [20:21] <techno156|School> :P
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#2258 [20:27] <bim> on minecraft the new way to install a texture pack is not working i drag it in but nothing happens no new one pops up help
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#2260 [20:27] <techno156|School> did you check what was in the zip?
#2261 [20:28] <techno156|School> If there's a single folder in the zip, take that out
#2262 [20:29] <Extreme> bim, there are no more texture packs
#2263 [20:29] <Extreme> bim, Mojang has replaced them with "resource packs", which work similar but not equally to a texture pack, as they have a different format and allow more functionality\
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#2265 [20:34] <bim> i am using resource packs i put them in to the resource pack folder that pops up but nothing there is a site to get resource packs that what i use
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#2267 [20:35] <DarkTheEnchanter> Extreme, when I tried that link, it said the same exact thing
#2268 [20:35] <bim> to can you help me
#2269 [20:36] <bim> what do i do to make it work
#2270 [20:37] <Extreme> bim, look at the forums
#2271 [20:37] <Extreme> DarkTheEnchanter, your computer is too old then
#2272 [20:38] <DarkTheEnchanter> it has windows xp
#2273 [20:38] <bim> its not windows 7 got it 4 months
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#2292 [21:00] <Guest5477> hello. so i have the pixel format not accelerated problem followed all steps and now i stuck. so im on the dxdiag thing i click display but the manufacturer says :N/A please help what do i do from here?
#2293 [21:00] <Lord_Ralex> ??> Guest5477 hopper/dxdiag
#2294 [21:00] <VoxelHead> Guest5477: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2295 [21:00] <Lord_Ralex> Guest5477, we will need to see your dxdiag, so please do what VoxelHead has said to share it with us
#2296 [21:01] <Guest5477> okay thanks
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#2298 [21:04] <Guest5477> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5bb1c98bbdb44d4c9a49
#2299 [21:04] <Guest5477> there you go
#2300 [21:05] <Lord_Ralex> Guest5477, one moment please
#2301 [21:05] <Guest5477> okay
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#2303 [21:06] <Lord_Ralex> Guest5477, you need to download and install http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.8_mobility_beta2.exe
#2304 [21:07] <Guest5477> i will try this and come back to you thankyou.
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#2310 [21:11] <Deadbird> where the fug is the light coming from? D: http://oi42.tinypic.com/24b9cpd.jpg
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#2314 [21:13] <Deadbird> trying to make a mob trap, but its bright inside the room, so they dont spawn
#2315 [21:13] <Deadbird> is that a total bug or whats up
#2316 [21:14] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> I keep getting an error saying: java.net.socketexceotion: permission denied
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#2322 [21:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Why is Minecraft Soooo hard?
#2323 [21:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I mean, after three years, I should die by a simple zombie pigman 10 times over
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#2330 [21:21] <josh> okay so i have tried everthing and still nothing help please?
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#2333 [21:22] <Guest67151> okay so i have tried everthing and still nothing help please?
#2334 [21:22] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> What do you need help with?
#2335 [21:22] <Guest67151> pixel format not accelerated
#2336 [21:22] <GrygrFlzr> Ah.
#2337 [21:22] <Guest67151> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5bb1c98bbdb44d4c9a49
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#2340 [21:23] <NateMatt> When I start minecraft my computer goes into a freakish hue, I've cleaned my registry keys, my graphic cards are up to date.. now what?
#2341 [21:24] <NateMatt> (Any and all help is welcome) I'm a complete noob to IIRC..
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#2343 [21:24] <Deadbird> can someone help me explain why its light in this room? there are no sources of light, anywhere http://oi42.tinypic.com/24b9cpd.jpg
#2344 [21:24] <techno156> NateMatt, You cables might be loose?
#2345 [21:24] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Sorry, can't help you there. Not sure what the problem is but I also need help with an error, the error is java.net.SocketException: Permission: Connect
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#2353 [21:26] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Deadbird, are you using any hacked clients like: Nodus, Rubix and have full bright on?
#2354 [21:26] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Nodus/Rubix
#2355 [21:26] <GrygrFlzr> No, that's not fullbright, otherwise he won't see the dark corner
#2356 [21:27] <NateMatt> Techno, It's a laptop, my cables are in check, and i can run other video games in high detail with no problem whatsoever -_-
#2357 [21:28] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> NateMatt, describe the "freakish hue".
#2358 [21:28] <GrygrFlzr> Anyone can look over Guest67151's dxdiag? I don't see any video cards, not even under System Devices.
#2359 [21:28] <GrygrFlzr> Wait. AMD APU.
#2360 [21:28] * GrygrFlzr facepalm
#2360 [21:28] <NateMatt> Black and white, a bit of color.. my clean images become.. rather.. 1990's.. ish..
#2361 [21:28] <NateMatt> desktop wise.
#2362 [21:30] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Ok, so have you tried looking at your settings or maybe your video card needs to be replaced, try restarting your computer and then start up minecraft again if it still is all buggy try to uninstall minecraft and reinstall it.
#2363 [21:31] <NateMatt> I've done both of those, But i'll do em' again. lol.. With this new launcher I can't do anything to the game before launching it..
#2364 [21:31] <Deadbird> Urgot2BeKiddingMe, no lol
#2365 [21:31] <Deadbird> mobs arent spawning at all in there
#2366 [21:32] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Ok, are you using transparent block for some reason?
#2367 [21:33] <techno156> Might be a lighting glitch
#2368 [21:33] <Deadbird> its all cobblestone
#2369 [21:33] <techno156> place a torch then break it
#2370 [21:33] <Deadbird> i did, nothin
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#2372 [21:33] <techno156> Hm...
#2373 [21:33] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Try that then try to break a piece of cobble and put it bacl
#2374 [21:33] <GrygrFlzr> Deadbird, you sure none of the blocks are lit furnaces?
#2375 [21:33] <techno156> Is the dark patch like a shadow, but there's supposed to beb blocks there?
#2376 [21:33] <techno156> *be
#2377 [21:33] <Deadbird> yes im sure, wtf
#2378 [21:33] <NateMatt> It's all cobble? is any of it half slabs?
#2379 [21:34] <Deadbird> no slabs
#2380 [21:34] <techno156> Stairs?
#2381 [21:34] <Jake0720> Lava nearby?
#2382 [21:34] <techno156> Corners
#2383 [21:34] <Qowface> GrygrFlzr: The drivers were totally missing for Guest whatever's GPU. Lol.
#2384 [21:34] <Deadbird> no stairs
#2385 [21:34] <Qowface> But he left.
#2386 [21:34] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Close Minecraft then restart.
#2387 [21:34] <GrygrFlzr> Or maybe your texture pack is digusing a lighting block.
#2388 [21:34] <GrygrFlzr> *disguising
#2389 [21:34] <GrygrFlzr> Probably swap back to default to see if there are any glowstone etc
#2390 [21:34] <techno156> Maybe
#2391 [21:35] <NateMatt> Take some TNT to it, that normally fixes my lighting issues.. just make sure you don't light it too close to your beacons..
#2392 [21:35] <techno156> Corners do things
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#2396 [21:36] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Ok guys can you help me fix a problem, I get an error message saying java.net.SocketException: Permissons: connect
#2397 [21:36] <GrygrFlzr> Urgot2BeKiddingMe, what are you trying to do?
#2398 [21:36] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Join a multiplayer server.
#2399 [21:37] <GrygrFlzr> What is the server address?
#2400 [21:37] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> au17.mcsg.in
#2401 [21:38] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> But it is happening to all my servers that I have running and all of my Technich servers and everything.
#2402 [21:38] <GrygrFlzr> !check au17.mcsg.in
#2403 [21:38] <GrygrFlzr> Urgot2BeKiddingMe, other addresses?
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#2405 [21:39] <Extreme> GrygrFlzr, there are hundreds of those, they don't reply to pings iirc
#2406 [21:39] <GrygrFlzr> Extreme: Yeah, just remembered, so I'm going into MC now
#2407 [21:39] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Umm there are other other servers like hive.eu that I have tried and my servers that I wish to not to give the adress
#2408 [21:39] <iamtheroman> I want to download and save the Minecraft application to my E: Drive on my computer so that I can play it from my desktop.
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#2410 [21:40] <GrygrFlzr> iamtheroman, why the E: drive?
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#2412 [21:41] <iamtheroman> I have partitioned my computer. my C: Drive has my OS, D: drive is Reserved, E: is Games/Music/etc
#2413 [21:41] <Qowface> iamtheroman: Make a new profile in the launcher, check the game directory box, and enter the path you want to save game files.
#2414 [21:42] <dudeguyman> Having troubles logging into an account that I've had for 3 years and never changed the password to. Sadly, a recovery is not possible because I have since changed emails and also my recovery email has been de-activated. Ideas?
#2415 [21:42] <GrygrFlzr> dudeguyman, still have your transaction ID?
#2416 [21:42] <dudeguyman> From the original purchase?
#2417 [21:42] <GrygrFlzr> Yes
#2418 [21:42] <GrygrFlzr> How to find your Transaction ID: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#2419 [21:43] <GrygrFlzr> Voxel went down :/
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#2421 [21:43] <Urgot2BeKiddingMe> Does anyone know how to solve the error message java.net.SocketException: PErmission: connect?
#2422 [21:43] <iamtheroman> Still could not get it to save to my E: Drive, nor will it play period. Receiving the following message:
#2423 [21:43] <iamtheroman> Couldn't launch game java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "E:\Games" (in directory "E:\Games"): CreateProcess error=5, Access is denied
#2424 [21:44] <iamtheroman> Caused by: java.io.IOException: CreateProcess error=5, Access is denied
#2425 [21:44] <GrygrFlzr> iamtheroman: can you give us the entire devconsole on pastebin?
#2426 [21:44] <iamtheroman> pastebin? I'm sorry
#2427 [21:44] <GrygrFlzr> We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#2428 [21:44] <GrygrFlzr> First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#2432 [21:45] <iamtheroman> http://pastebin.com/JAfCEZtY
#2433 [21:45] <Qowface> iamtheroman: Does that directory exist already?
#2434 [21:45] <iamtheroman> yes
#2435 [21:46] <mgp> gist:2222d41cb848f385b2cd
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#2438 [21:46] <mgp> hellooo?
#2439 [21:46] <mgp> anyone help me with my driver?
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#2442 [21:47] <GrygrFlzr> Voxel is back :3
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#2444 [21:47] <GrygrFlzr> ??> mgp patience
#2445 [21:47] <mgp> ok
#2446 [21:48] <GrygrFlzr> Beh, not 100% functional it seems
#2447 [21:48] <mgp> ?????
#2448 [21:48] <Mankirk> Minecraft suddenly tells me my video drivers are not current, but the manufacturer say thjey are the latest. Anyone know how to fix this?
#2449 [21:49] <GrygrFlzr> ??> Mankirk hopper/dxdiag
#2450 [21:49] <GrygrFlzr> ...
#2451 [21:49] <GrygrFlzr> Mankirk: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2452 [21:49] <mgp> i did every thing for the drivers but it does not work
#2453 [21:49] <GrygrFlzr> mgp: Still looking over, wait.
#2454 [21:50] <Mankirk> The funny thing is I've been running Minecraft on this PC for about a year. Why has it changed now?
#2455 [21:50] <GrygrFlzr> Mankirk: You changed something, like updating to Windows 8.
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#2457 [21:51] <VoxelHead> mgp: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2458 [21:51] <VoxelHead> mgp: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#2459 [21:51] <VoxelHead> Mankirk: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2460 [21:51] <Qowface> Hah.
#2461 [21:51] * GrygrFlzr throws ice-cream at VoxelHead
#2461 [21:51] <GrygrFlzr> Sleepyhead! :P
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#2463 [21:52] <mgp> hey grygrf1zr i can find the spot were i enter the url to minecraft suppport page
#2464 [21:52] <GrygrFlzr> mgp: ?
#2465 [21:53] <GrygrFlzr> mgp: I'm still looking for the driver.
#2466 [21:54] <GrygrFlzr> mgp: Download and install this: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22842
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#2468 [21:55] <mgp> what is that page
#2469 [21:55] <mgp> i dont need your help anymore
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#2473 [21:56] <xLightAcex> Hello?
#2474 [21:57] <GrygrFlzr> Hello.
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#2477 [21:57] <xLightAcex> I am having this problem with my Minecraft... For some reason every map I make has a chunk that wont generate at all and i can fall in it scary.... can anyone help
#2478 [21:57] <xLightAcex> Not Lagg
#2479 [21:58] <xLightAcex> Its just a random square hole that wont generate
#2480 [21:59] <Qowface> xLightAcex: And even after loading it again it's still there?
#2481 [22:01] <xLightAcex> Yes
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#2484 [22:07] <xLightAcex> Qowface, can you help plz?
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#2488 [22:36] <quickscope360> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/41d7e5d1f51684f13eb9
#2489 [22:37] <quickscope360> Im trying to update my graphics driver
#2490 [22:37] <quickscope360> But I cant
#2491 [22:37] <quickscope360> Know how?
#2492 [22:38] <quickscope360> Hello
#2493 [22:38] <quickscope360> Hello
#2494 [22:38] <quickscope360> Hello
#2495 [22:38] <quickscope360> Hello
#2496 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> !k quickscope360
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#2500 [22:39] <techno156|School> 1008 kicks, eh? o.O
#2501 [22:40] <techno156|School> Aw... 8 kicks agom it would have been the 1k kick party. :P
#2502 [22:40] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2502 [22:43] <SuperTerminator1> Hello, I need help to log into my existing Minecraft account. After installing a new Windows 8 minecraft is asking to update my video or grafic drivers.... Can you help with that, please?
#2503 [22:44] <GrygrFlzr> ??> SuperTerminator1 hopper/dxdiag
#2504 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> We might be able to. Can you give us a dxdiag?
#2505 [22:44] <VoxelHead> SuperTerminator1: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2506 [22:44] <SuperTerminator1> anonymous / gist:05c7bb144a0fc448fd74
#2507 [22:45] <GrygrFlzr> What's with the load of whitespace o.O
#2508 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> There are no win 8 drivers for that graphics chipset
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#2510 [22:47] <SuperTerminator1> Does that mean that I would not be able to play minecraft after all?
#2511 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Unlikely, with that install of win 8 on that specific machine
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#2513 [22:49] <SuperTerminator1> Can I try to go back and try to restore the old version?
#2514 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Only if you have your recovery disks or your previous windows install cd
#2515 [22:51] <Bcr2010> I have the minecraft pe app and when I went to update it. It got stuck on waiting and it's been like that for about a week or so and I can't even delete it any suggestions?
#2516 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Android or iOS?
#2517 [22:52] <Bcr2010> iOS
#2518 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I have no idea then.
#2519 [22:54] <Bcr2010> WTF!!!!
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#2522 [22:55] <zirawan> someone please help me i just got minecraft and i a getting a error of exit code 1 and the game crases
#2523 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> ??> zirawan devconsole
#2524 [22:55] <VoxelHead> zirawan: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#2525 [22:55] <VoxelHead> zirawan: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#2526 [22:57] <zirawan> what do i do?
#2527 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2528 [22:58] <zirawan> how do i share it
#2529 [22:58] <zirawan> http://pastebin.com/BpBd3b3k
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#2531 [22:59] <zirawan> is that right?
#2532 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> That's right
#2533 [23:00] <zirawan> do you know how to fix it?
#2534 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Windows, yes? Do you happen to have any special characters in your windows username? Anything that's not a letter or number?
#2535 [23:01] <Lord_Ralex> ??> zirawan win/!
#2536 [23:01] <VoxelHead> zirawan: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your Windows username can break Java, which in turn breaks Minecraft. The only way to fix this issue is to create a new Windows account without any special characters (only A-Z and 0-9).
#2537 [23:01] <VoxelHead> zirawan: See http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/special-characters/ for more information on working around this problem.
#2538 [23:01] <zirawan> can i just change the name or that wont work?
#2539 [23:01] <Lord_Ralex> zirawan, it will not
#2540 [23:01] <Lord_Ralex> zirawan, you have to make a new windows account
#2541 [23:02] <techno156|School> Or rename
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#2543 [23:02] <Lord_Ralex> techno156|School, rename will not fix it
#2544 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Can't rename
#2545 [23:02] <techno156|School> That worked in old versions. :P
#2546 [23:02] <techno156|School> Fair enough
#2547 [23:02] <zirawan> ok thanks a lot to everyone that helped
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#2550 [23:03] <gino> i would like to cancel the payment i just made
#2551 [23:03] <Lord_Ralex> ??<> gino refund
#2552 [23:03] <Lord_Ralex> gah
#2553 [23:03] <Lord_Ralex> ??> gino refund
#2554 [23:03] <VoxelHead> gino: This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
#2555 [23:03] <gingerbean> tI bought minecraft in Beta (classi 2010 early; pd like early price, been in touch and have new launcher. When I ordered and paid for the game got recceipt number all cool. Then I an older computer and my game crashed immediate; said; no opengl..pixel acceleratorI have new game never opened stuck the same on a new computer when I downloaded game again on new computer...still get same crashes before it can play??what to do?
#2556 [23:04] <Lord_Ralex> ??> gingerbean hopper/dxdiag
#2557 [23:04] <VoxelHead> gingerbean: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2558 [23:05] <Thanatos> I didn't know there was a refund policy o.o
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#2560 [23:06] <Hhhhhhhxtv> I need help
#2561 [23:07] * Thanatos is now known as Jake0720
#2562 [23:07] <Hhhhhhhxtv> I can't access my old gmail it was a typo
#2563 [23:07] <techno156|School> Contact Mojang
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#2565 [23:07] <techno156|School> ?
#2566 [23:08] <Hhhhhhhxtv> How do I do that
#2567 [23:08] <Hhhhhhhxtv> An how long does t take for them to respond
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#2571 [23:12] <Hhhhhhhxtv> How do I contact mojang support
#2572 [23:12] <SuperTerminator1> Is there a free install a new video drivers for my new Windows 8 ?
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#2581 [23:17] <Major_Zeal> hi, whenever i boot my minecraft, it says "lack of updated graphics driver"
#2582 [23:17] <SonicfanHD> Im on a windoes 8 computer and whne i play it shows the desktop then the game for just a split second
#2583 [23:17] <SonicfanHD> like im playing, then it goes to the desktop for less than a second, then returns to the game.
#2584 [23:18] <Mikko_blu> ??> Major_Zeal win/dxdiag
#2585 [23:18] <VoxelHead> Major_Zeal: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2586 [23:18] <VoxelHead> Major_Zeal: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
#2587 [23:18] <Mikko_blu> SonicfanHD, is the mouse cursor hovering over the show desktop button on the taskbar? i dont know if windows 8 still has that
#2588 [23:19] <SonicfanHD> No.
#2589 [23:19] <SonicfanHD> It randomly happens
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#2591 [23:19] <Mikko_blu> ??> SonicfanHD win/dxdiag
#2592 [23:19] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2593 [23:19] <SonicfanHD> LIke im playing then it goes to destktop for less than a second then turns white (sometimes) again for less than a split second then returns to the game.
#2594 [23:19] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#2597 [23:20] <cricket> i can not download minecraft on to my desktop
#2598 [23:20] <SonicfanHD> My computer is old too. And they may be causing the problem
#2599 [23:21] <cricket> what do you mean its not to old
#2600 [23:21] <Mikko_blu> cricket, what happens when you try
#2601 [23:21] <cricket> the web page dosnt show up and says there is a problem
#2602 [23:21] <cricket> when i hit download
#2603 [23:22] <SonicfanHD> http://pastebin.com/zTAyUvQL
#2604 [23:22] <Mikko_blu> Do other websites work?
#2605 [23:22] <Major_Zeal> http://pastebin.com/EXyS0qSe
#2606 [23:22] <cricket> yes they do
#2607 [23:22] <Mikko_blu> Hmm SonicfanHD, it looks alright, try to do a reinstall and see if that helps
#2608 [23:22] <Mikko_blu> ??> SonicfanHD win/reinst
#2609 [23:22] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2610 [23:23] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2611 [23:23] <SonicfanHD> who's directions i follow? Yours or both?
#2612 [23:23] <Major_Zeal> ok i posted the link that was in the address bar, now what?
#2613 [23:24] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: still there?
#2614 [23:24] <SonicfanHD> can i just delete everything?
#2615 [23:24] <Lord_Ralex> Major_Zeal, download and instlal http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_win8-64.aspx
#2616 [23:24] <SuperTerminator1> yes, i am still here
#2617 [23:25] <Mikko_blu> SonicfanHD, you can, but if you delete your saves folder, it'll get rid of your saves
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#2619 [23:25] <SonicfanHD> I dont play singleplayer so it doesnt mater.
#2620 [23:25] <Mikko_blu> Then yes you can.
#2621 [23:25] <SonicfanHD> *Matter
#2622 [23:25] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: what's the issue?
#2623 [23:25] <SonicfanHD> Will it dellete like Optifine?
#2624 [23:26] <Mikko_blu> Yeah.
#2625 [23:26] <SonicfanHD> and My Texture packs?
#2626 [23:26] <SonicfanHD> oh.
#2627 [23:26] <Mikko_blu> Yeah, but you don't have to delete those.
#2628 [23:26] <SuperTerminator1> I need help to log into my existing Minecraft account. After installing a new Windows 8 minecraft is asking to update my video or grafic drivers.... Can you help with that, please?
#2629 [23:26] <Mikko_blu> Just copy the texturepacks folder elsewhere, the mod will have to be reinstalled, and may be part of the problem
#2630 [23:26] <SonicfanHD> already did. I'll re-install them.
#2631 [23:26] <Lord_Ralex> ??> SuperTerminator1 hopper/dxdiag
#2632 [23:26] <VoxelHead> SuperTerminator1: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2633 [23:27] <SonicfanHD> I just love the feature to go back to Alpha and Beta Builds.
#2634 [23:27] <Major_Zeal> ok its downloading, after i install it, will ibe good to go?
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#2636 [23:27] <Lord_Ralex> Major_Zeal, should
#2637 [23:27] <Mikko_blu> Major_Zeal, yeah probably
#2638 [23:28] <SonicfanHD> Mikko, It's still doing the error
#2639 [23:28] <Mikko_blu> Did it crash?
#2640 [23:28] <SonicfanHD> Now it's going white tehn going back to minecraft
#2641 [23:28] <SonicfanHD> *Then
#2642 [23:28] <SuperTerminator1> anonymous/gist:05c7bb144a0fc448fd74
#2643 [23:28] <Lord_Ralex> ??> SonicfanHD devconsole
#2644 [23:28] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#2645 [23:28] <Major_Zeal> awsome thanks!
#2646 [23:28] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#2647 [23:29] <SonicfanHD> after I launch minecraft or before?
#2648 [23:29] <Lord_Ralex> SonicfanHD, after it crashes
#2649 [23:29] <Mikko_blu> After would be preferable
#2650 [23:29] <Mikko_blu> After would be preferable
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#2652 [23:29] <SonicfanHD> It doesnt crash,The windoe of minecraft goes white for less than a second, Then goes back and repeatedly keeps doing that.
#2653 [23:30] <SonicfanHD> *window.
#2654 [23:30] <bim> hi hey i bout minecraft i have not played for about a year then when i go to log in i said that i can only play demo but i bout the game what do i do
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#2656 [23:30] <seimei606> hello
#2657 [23:30] <Lord_Ralex> ??> SonicfanHD launcher/open
#2658 [23:30] <VoxelHead> SonicfanHD: To make sure the launcher stays open: click Edit Profile, then check Launcher Visibility, select Keep Launcher Open and finally hit Save Profile.
#2659 [23:30] <seimei606> can anyone help me
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#2662 [23:31] <GrygrFlzr> ??> seimei606 ask
#2663 [23:31] <Lord_Ralex> SonicfanHD, once you do that, then go back to Minecraft, have it have the issue it is having, then you can get the dev console for us
#2664 [23:31] <VoxelHead> seimei606: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2665 [23:31] <VoxelHead> seimei606: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2666 [23:31] <GrygrFlzr> SuperTerminator1, seems like your graphics card does not have a windows 8 driver.
#2667 [23:31] <seimei606> i have an issue with my minecraft when i log in the world loads but i cant see it
#2668 [23:31] <seimei606> i can only see my chatbox and hotbar
#2669 [23:32] <SuperTerminator1> so, what should I do then if my graphics card does not have a windows 8 driver?
#2670 [23:32] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: link to your dxdiag?
#2671 [23:32] <SuperTerminator1> anonymous/gist:05c7bb144a0fc448fd74
#2672 [23:32] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: that's not a link
#2673 [23:33] <GrygrFlzr> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/05c7bb144a0fc448fd74
#2674 [23:33] <GrygrFlzr> He has a Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset on Win8
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#2676 [23:33] <Extreme> I see.
#2677 [23:33] <SuperTerminator1> thanks
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#2679 [23:34] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: I'd recommend a downgrade, or to get a new computer
#2680 [23:34] <CHCMATT> Would it be possible to get MCEdit help in here, if so, I need to know how to move up and down in MCEdit
#2681 [23:34] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: although workarounds do exist, their not trivial
#2682 [23:34] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: although workarounds do exist, their not trivial
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#2684 [23:35] <GrygrFlzr> CHCMATT: Q E
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#2686 [23:35] <CHCMATT> oh wow
#2687 [23:35] <CHCMATT> thank you
#2688 [23:35] <GrygrFlzr> We can't really support it as it's a 3rd party program but that much I know :/
#2689 [23:35] <SuperTerminator1> So, I would not be able to purchase or download a new graphic card driver for my win 8?
#2690 [23:35] <GrygrFlzr> Drivers are free, not purchased
#2691 [23:36] <CHCMATT> That's all I needed to know
#2692 [23:36] <seimei606> anyone know how i can fix this?
#2693 [23:36] <Extreme> SuperTerminator1: Intel has said that they will not update older models to Win8
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#2696 [23:36] <Lord_Ralex> AngryAsshole, change your nickname
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#2698 [23:37] <AngryAsshole> Anybody know how long it takes for the "Too Many Attempts" to reset when trying to migrate your old account
#2699 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> AngryAsshole, change your nickname (use /nick new to do that)
#2700 [23:37] <AngryAsshole> why
#2701 [23:37] <Lord_Ralex> Because it is inappropriate
#2702 [23:38] <Extreme> ??> angry scold/nick
#2703 [23:38] <VoxelHead> angry: Your nick on IRC is too long or otherwise objectionable. Please change it using /nick NewName. If you fail to do so, you may be removed from the channel.
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#2706 [23:38] <PassiveAggressiveAhole> ok better?
#2707 [23:38] <Lord_Ralex> No
#2708 [23:38] <seimei606> alright then gald i could get some help here -_- turns out this is just as helpfull as the rest of the help links ive been put to
#2709 [23:39] <CHCMATT> GrygrFlzr, can you tell me how to put a filter in, like one that Ive downloaded
#2710 [23:39] <GrygrFlzr> Sorry, no, we don't really mess around with MCEdit here. :P
#2711 [23:40] <CHCMATT> Okay
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#2714 [23:40] <GrygrFlzr> There's lots of help online
#2715 [23:40] <Humorless> ok how bout now?
#2716 [23:40] <Lord_Ralex> Humorless, much better. Now, for migration, think it takes 20 minutes to reset.
#2717 [23:40] <Lord_Ralex> Humorless, although there is a login throttle that prevents logins for 3 hours if you fail too many times, so not sure if that one would be affecting migration
#2718 [23:41] <Humorless> lame
#2719 [23:42] <Humorless> but thanks
#2720 [23:43] <seimei606> what would be the best way to get ahold of someone for tech support?
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#2722 [23:43] <GrygrFlzr> seimei606: Please force a crash by pressing F3 + C for 10 seconds while in-game and attach the crash report here.
#2723 [23:44] <Lord_Ralex> seimei606, tech issues, that is what this chat is for
#2724 [23:44] <GrygrFlzr> seimei606: It's kind of harder to resolve a non-common issue >.>
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#2726 [23:44] <seimei606> this is hard ive been trying to fix it sence friday
#2727 [23:45] <seimei606> ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // I let you down. Sorry :( Time: 8/19/13 11:44 PM Description: Manually triggered debug crash java.lang.Throwable at ats.k(SourceFile:1238) at ats.S(SourceFile:663) at ats.d(SourceFile:619) at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101) A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows: -----------------------------------------------------------
#2728 [23:45] <Syer> seimei606: Do not post crash reports in this channel, instead use pastebin
#2729 [23:45] <Syer> ??> seimei606 pastebin
#2730 [23:45] <VoxelHead> seimei606: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2731 [23:46] <seimei606> http://pastebin.com/NG26p7dd
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#2733 [23:46] <luis> hello guys
#2734 [23:47] <luis> who can here help me out
#2735 [23:47] <seimei606> i had done this befor they told me to update my graphics and java and then again after that to dlete and reinstall my minecraft wich had been done
#2736 [23:47] <GrygrFlzr> Oh, you're playing Multiplayer... on craftbukkit.
#2737 [23:47] <seimei606> it does this in single player too
#2738 [23:47] <GrygrFlzr> seimei606, try playing singleplayer
#2739 [23:47] <GrygrFlzr> :/
#2740 [23:47] <seimei606> ive done it in both
#2741 [23:47] <Lord_Ralex> ??> seimei606 devconsole
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#2743 [23:47] <seimei606> huh?
#2744 [23:47] <Lord_Ralex> ....
#2745 [23:47] * Lord_Ralex pokes VoxelHead
#2745 [23:47] <luis> can someone help
#2746 [23:47] <GrygrFlzr> It's kinda glitchy today
#2747 [23:48] <Lord_Ralex> bleh, and bad time for the backup to go down
#2748 [23:48] <GrygrFlzr> seimei606: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#2749 [23:48] <GrygrFlzr> seimei606: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#2750 [23:48] <luis> can some help?
#2751 [23:48] <luis> helllo
#2752 [23:49] <GrygrFlzr> luis: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2753 [23:49] <GrygrFlzr> If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2754 [23:49] <VoxelHead> seimei606: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#2755 [23:49] <VoxelHead> seimei606: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it. Click submit. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#2756 [23:49] <Lord_Ralex> oh dear god, he lives
#2757 [23:49] * GrygrFlzr whacks VoxelHead with a pillow
#2757 [23:49] <GrygrFlzr> You need an oil change!
#2758 [23:49] <luis> okay grygrflzr
#2759 [23:50] <luis> i need help on getting the solution why dont my minecraft lose connection
#2760 [23:50] <seimei606> http://pastebin.com/MY04JFy0
#2761 [23:50] <luis> does*
#2762 [23:51] <luis> i waiy
#2763 [23:51] <luis> i wait
#2764 [23:52] <luis> hello
#2765 [23:53] <luis> anybody there>
#2766 [23:53] <luis> ?
#2767 [23:53] <GrygrFlzr> luis, you need to ask your question...
#2768 [23:53] <GrygrFlzr> We're not telepaths :P
#2769 [23:53] <seimei606> your not?!?!/
#2770 [23:53] <Lord_Ralex> seimei606, hmm, nothing appears to be wrong there, a reset of Minecraft did not fix it?
#2771 [23:53] <luis> my question is what do i have to do to stop lossing connection on a server
#2772 [23:54] <seimei606> no i reset it more than one too
#2773 [23:54] <seimei606> once*
#2774 [23:54] <GrygrFlzr> luis: Generally that's a problem with either your internet connection or the server's connection
#2775 [23:55] <luis> ooh really so why every time it says java,exception something like
#2776 [23:55] <luis> that
#2777 [23:55] <Lord_Ralex> luis, we need the entire error
#2778 [23:55] <luis> and i know is not my connection or server connection it never happened now it happen every time
#2779 [23:56] <luis> okk i will tel you guys the error
#2780 [23:56] <luis> okk i will tel you guys the error
#2781 [23:58] * bacon_avenger [bacon_avenger@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2782 [23:58] <seimei606> yeah i just tried resetting it again and im still getiting it :