#MinecraftHelp > 2013-09-15
#1 [00:00] <Extreme> kidrauhlsdrew: do you get a message when you crash?
#2 [00:00] <kidrauhlsdrew> i have already un downloaded it and re downloaded it and it's still crashing it's annoying.
#3 [00:00] <kidrauhlsdrew> and yes i have but i already did everythin
#4 [00:00] <Extreme> kidrauhlsdrew: what does it say?
#5 [00:01] <kidrauhlsdrew> it say sorry the minecraft app has crashed and then it tells me to renstall and i did but it still keeps crashing
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#7 [00:02] <kidrauhlsdrew> r u a robot or real person
#8 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> we are real
#9 [00:02] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay good
#10 [00:02] <danlender> it works now!!!, thanks. I do not understand why if I changed the email in the Mojang account, it keeps asking me for the old email?
#11 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, we need to see the error it shows you
#12 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kidrauhlsdrew gist
#13 [00:02] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: Github Gist is a service run at https://gist.github.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click Create Secret Gist, and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have put there.
#14 [00:02] <kidrauhlsdrew> I dont know how to shoe you
#15 [00:02] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, paste the error you see with Gist, which VoxelHead just explained
#16 [00:02] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay
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#18 [00:04] <danlender> it works now!!!, thanks. I do not understand why if I changed the email in the Mojang account, it keeps asking me for the old email?
#19 [00:04] <kidrauhlsdrew> its not letting me paste it
#20 [00:05] <Extreme> ??> kidrauhlsdrew mac/edit
#21 [00:05] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: As in all programs, Command+A is Select All. Command+C is Copy, Command+V is Paste.
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#24 [00:07] <kidrauhlsdrew> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6edc7b823e944400dbb5
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#26 [00:07] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kidrauhlsdrew mac/reinst
#27 [00:07] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#28 [00:07] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: To do so, run the following command in a terminal: rm -fr ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/{bin,texturepacks,launcher,resources,assets,libraries,versions,resourcepacks} and re-run Minecraft.
#29 [00:07] <kidrauhlsdrew> what do i do i have 5 different people telling me
#30 [00:07] <Lord_Ralex> and i just realized that won't work
#31 [00:08] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, VoxelHead is our bot, so if he says something to you, you will do it
#32 [00:08] <kidrauhlsdrew> I already did that! I still won't work
#33 [00:09] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kidrauhlsdrew mac/.minecraft
#34 [00:09] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select 'Go to Folder', and type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft, and click Go.
#35 [00:09] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, go to that folder
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#37 [00:09] <kidrauhlsdrew> I. Already.Have. I already said i've done that this is pissing me off
#38 [00:09] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, do what I have just asked
#39 [00:10] <kidrauhlsdrew> I ALREADY HAVE
#40 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, do you want help or not
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#42 [00:10] <kidrauhlsdrew> i do want help but idk what to do
#43 [00:10] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, i can tell you exactly what is wrong, you screwed your controls up
#44 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, which the very process I am explaining will fix
#45 [00:11] <kidrauhlsdrew> can u explain again>
#46 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kidrauhlsdrew mac/.minecraft
#47 [00:11] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select 'Go to Folder', and type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft, and click Go.
#48 [00:11] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, go to that folder
#49 [00:11] <kidrauhlsdrew> i cant find it
#50 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, are you doing it the way VoxelHead explained how to find it
#51 [00:12] <kidrauhlsdrew> I dont where to find that though
#52 [00:12] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, the way VoxelHead just explained is how you find it
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#54 [00:13] <kidrauhlsdrew> But i dont understand how explained it like how do i find the locally stored files
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#56 [00:13] <Lord_Ralex> in the Finder, from the Go menu, select 'Go to Folder', and type in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft, and click Go.
#57 [00:13] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay i can't find the "go to folder"
#58 [00:14] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, are you in the Finder
#59 [00:14] <kidrauhlsdrew> yes
#60 [00:14] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, and you clicked "Go"?
#61 [00:15] <kidrauhlsdrew> it say folder can't be found
#62 [00:15] <Lord_Ralex> ??> kidrauhlsdrew mac/terminal
#63 [00:15] <VoxelHead> kidrauhlsdrew: You can reach the Terminal by going to Application > Utilities > Terminal. Alternatively, search for Terminal in the Finder.
#64 [00:15] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, open the terminal, we will do this another way then
#65 [00:16] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay now what i opened terminal
#66 [00:16] <Lord_Ralex> in the terminal, type in this *exactly*: rm -f ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/options.txt
#67 [00:18] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay now what
#68 [00:18] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, did it say anything when you used that
#69 [00:19] <kidrauhlsdrew> Did minecraft say anything? No
#70 [00:19] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, Minecraft would not say anything....
#71 [00:19] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, i am talking about the terminal
#72 [00:19] <Lord_Ralex> where you would have entered that command
#73 [00:19] <kidrauhlsdrew> oh sorry. But no
#74 [00:19] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, you should also not have Minecraft open
#75 [00:20] <Lord_Ralex> close it, run that command again (just in case)
#76 [00:20] <kidrauhlsdrew> let me redo that then lol
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#78 [00:21] <|Anthony|> why doesn't AuBot work when checking servers that use SRV records
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#80 [00:21] <kidrauhlsdrew> No it didnt work still
#81 [00:21] <|Anthony|> !check mc.mineconomy.org
#82 [00:21] <|Anthony|> !check play.mineconomy.org
#83 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, does not work means nothing. What did the command do in the terminal
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#85 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> |Anthony|, probably cause it just a lookup of the domain, then see if you used a port
#86 [00:22] <Lord_Ralex> |Anthony|, it would have to be updated to deal with srv
#87 [00:22] * Lord_Ralex pokes Kealper for that
#87 [00:22] <|Anthony|> meh :/
#88 [00:23] <luduce> Minecraft launcher wont start, just pops up for half a second and goes away then i get a .txt file error report on my desktop
#89 [00:23] <|Anthony|> seems like a standard thing now-a-days
#90 [00:23] <kidrauhlsdrew> the command did nothing
#91 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, good, it means it ran correctly
#92 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, now start Minecraft
#93 [00:23] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay
#94 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> luduce, please share the txt file with us using Gist
#95 [00:23] <Lord_Ralex> ??> luduce gist
#96 [00:23] <VoxelHead> luduce: Github Gist is a service run at https://gist.github.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click Create Secret Gist, and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have put there.
#97 [00:24] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay yay! It's working
#98 [00:24] <kidrauhlsdrew> Sorry if i was bothering you... but i do have one more question
#99 [00:25] <luduce> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6568005
#100 [00:25] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, what is it
#101 [00:25] <kidrauhlsdrew> how do i sprint?
#102 [00:25] <kidrauhlsdrew> I know im new at this :/
#103 [00:25] <luduce> -.\
#104 [00:25] <luduce> double tap W
#105 [00:25] <techno156> kidrauhlsdrew, Double-Tap the W key, on Windows
#106 [00:25] <kidrauhlsdrew> Im sorry... Im new at this i think i know how i just want to make sure.
#107 [00:25] <kidrauhlsdrew> I have mac
#108 [00:26] <luduce> should be the same
#109 [00:26] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, double tap the key that you move forward with
#110 [00:26] <kidrauhlsdrew> Okay let me check
#111 [00:26] <kidrauhlsdrew> it's not going that fast
#112 [00:27] <luduce> Can i get some help please?
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#114 [00:27] <Extreme> ??> luduce win/java/reinst
#115 [00:27] <VoxelHead> luduce: You need to reinstall Java.
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#117 [00:27] <VoxelHead> luduce: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#118 [00:27] <luduce> i have reinstalled java
#119 [00:27] <kidrauhlsdrew> its actually going slow. I usually just push W and the space button and run
#120 [00:27] <Lord_Ralex> luduce, your java version is old, it is not up to date
#121 [00:27] <Kealper> Lord_Ralex: dealing with SRVs sounds like pain and suffering
#122 [00:27] <Lord_Ralex> Kealper, probably is
#123 [00:28] <kidrauhlsdrew> hello?
#124 [00:29] <Lord_Ralex> kidrauhlsdrew, you push W twice in a row
#125 [00:29] <kidrauhlsdrew> It's going slow not fast
#126 [00:29] <luduce> im uninstalling java programs ill text back if it doesnt work
#127 [00:30] <Extreme> luduce: otherwise your computer is really broken
#128 [00:30] <fffiglock> hello all. i seem to be having an issue with java and minecraft. i have version 7u40 and it is telling me the application needs java runtime environment 1.6.0 when i try to start the launcher. any suggestions or help would be appreciated.
#129 [00:30] <kidrauhlsdrew> okay ty BYE
#130 [00:30] <techno156> o.O 1.6
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#132 [00:30] <techno156> That is odd
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#134 [00:32] <Extreme> ??> fffiglock win/java/reinst
#135 [00:32] <VoxelHead> fffiglock: You need to reinstall Java.
#136 [00:32] <VoxelHead> fffiglock: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
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#138 [00:34] <G55> hello
#139 [00:35] <Extreme> Hello.
#140 [00:35] <G55> I have a problem with my minecraft, it says that its memory has run out
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#142 [00:35] <Extreme> G55: are you using mods?
#143 [00:35] <G55> yes
#144 [00:35] <Extreme> ??> G55 mods
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#146 [00:35] <VoxelHead> G55: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#147 [00:35] <VoxelHead> G55: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#148 [00:36] <luduce> thank you all! I wont have to murder my computer tonight!
#149 [00:36] <Extreme> luduce: did it fix it?
#150 [00:36] <G55> well thanks :/
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#152 [00:36] <luduce> yes it did thank you :)
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#160 [01:03] <The_Cat_Princess> Failed to check session lock
#161 [01:03] <The_Cat_Princess> my saved world is crashing
#162 [01:03] <The_Cat_Princess> Failed to check session lock
#163 [01:04] <The_Cat_Princess> I have deleted the session lock but still not working
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#166 [01:06] <mattym> The_Cat_Princess: Has this happened to you before?
#167 [01:07] <The_Cat_Princess> nope
#168 [01:07] <mattym> You still have the world folder open?
#169 [01:07] <The_Cat_Princess> i had a massivve pc crash and had to restore everthing
#170 [01:07] <The_Cat_Princess> yes
#171 [01:07] <mattym> Make a backup/copy of it first
#172 [01:08] <mattym> then see if remaning the level.dat_old file to level.dat (and getting rid of the current level.dat) helps
#173 [01:08] <mattym> keep in mind if your not set up as an advanced user on your machine
#174 [01:09] <mattym> the file extensions (.dat) may not show up
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#176 [01:10] <The_Cat_Princess> trying now
#177 [01:11] <X_xcbw91396x_X> hey i need help with pixel format not accelerating can anyone help
#178 [01:11] <mattym> um i think there is a help page for that
#179 [01:11] <mattym> i am not aware of the quick link tho, gimme a second
#180 [01:11] <X_xcbw91396x_X> i went there and it did help me
#181 [01:11] <X_xcbw91396x_X> didnt*
#182 [01:12] <The_Cat_Princess> bummer still not working, still getting the Failed to check session lock error
#183 [01:12] <mattym> X_xcbw91396x_X: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/ this one?
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#185 [01:13] <mattym> The_Cat_Princess: Yeah im not sure where to go from there, its possible that the crash completely messed with the save
#186 [01:13] <X_xcbw91396x_X> ya that page didnt help me
#187 [01:13] <mattym> Did you do the dxdiag instructions at the bottom?
#188 [01:13] <The_Cat_Princess> oh well there goes 3 months of game
#189 [01:13] <X_xcbw91396x_X> yes i did and i got a url link
#190 [01:14] <mattym> The_Cat_Princess: I forget the names but there are some tools out there that may be able to help
#191 [01:14] <mattym> MCRegion fixer used to be the name of one but im not sure if that is still up to date or can even help
#192 [01:14] <mattym> X_xcbw91396x_X: Can you post the link
#193 [01:14] <X_xcbw91396x_X> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d68f7658500d6049b74c
#194 [01:15] <The_Cat_Princess> mattym : Thanks for your help and advise
#195 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> X_xcbw91396x_X - You're joking, right?
#196 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> X_xcbw91396x_X - You can't possibly think that computer could run minecraft.
#197 [01:16] <X_xcbw91396x_X> no i have windows 7 on my laptop it works on there i was trying to get it to work on this thing for lil sis
#198 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> X_xcbw91396x_X - That computer will not run minecraft. Period.
#199 [01:16] <X_xcbw91396x_X> ok then thanx any ways
#200 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> It's about 13-14 years old. I had that same processor
#201 [01:16] <mattym> Yeah its not even reporting an actual graphics device
#202 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> mattym - Check the RAM. Check the processor. It's a single core AMD 3200+.
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#204 [01:18] <mattym> I actually read it as 3000+ MB RAM
#205 [01:18] <mattym> I guess my brain refused to believe something had less than half a gig or ram
#206 [01:19] <mattym> of*
#207 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, welcome to 2000.
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#210 [01:20] <Eddie|Away> I played with a 3000+ and 768 MB of RAM. Too slow and lots of paging.
#211 [01:20] <mattym> I remember those days, just dont expect to see those machines still in use
#212 [01:21] <mudcat> I try to run minecraft and it says my drivers do not support open GL. Here is my gist containing my dxdiag. Any suggestions? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/44db013bfc17da5b8aeb
#213 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Mine still works, gone through, oh, about 4-5 video cards, 2-3 PSUs..
#214 [01:22] <mattym> mudcat: Im not even sure that updating drivers would help, I dont think that graphics card supports the OpenGL environment
#215 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> It does, it's just a bit old.
#216 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> And can anybody else pull up the AMD drivers page?
#217 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#218 [01:24] <mattym> I think AMD has been doing site work
#219 [01:24] <mudcat> I thought that the card may be a bit old. I wasn't 100% sure. Try an update for my card's drivers?
#220 [01:24] <mattym> I was having trouble with it the other day
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#222 [01:25] <mattym> mudcat: Yeah if you can find new support drivers for it, give them a try
#223 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Site's erroring out for me right now. Can't pull it up to do a driver lookup.
#224 [01:26] <Lord_Ralex> that is very old :/
#225 [01:29] <mattym> I still have my Radeon 9700 Pro sitting on display behind my computer desk
#226 [01:31] <Lord_Ralex> oh good
#227 [01:32] <Lord_Ralex> their file server still is up
#228 [01:32] <Lord_Ralex> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_xp32-64_dd_ccc.exe should be the driver for that
#229 [01:33] <Lord_Ralex> oh, no, wait
#230 [01:33] <Lord_Ralex> is actually http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_32_dd_ccc.exe
#231 [01:33] <Lord_Ralex> GreyVulpine, mudcat ^
#232 [01:33] <mudcat> ok ty!
#233 [01:34] <mattym> wow, they still have stuff on the ATI domain?
#234 [01:34] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, their entire file server is on that
#235 [01:34] <mattym> wow, lazy
#236 [01:35] <Lord_Ralex> it's not really that important really
#237 [01:35] <Lord_Ralex> or mattering
#238 [01:36] <mattym> I dunno, if I baught and rebranded a company i would want every trace of the old one gone
#239 [01:36] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, considering their ati stuff is still out there, and they keep the ati name, not really
#240 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> yeah, my radeon is named ATI, but manu is amd
#241 [01:37] <mattym> manu?
#242 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> manufactior
#243 [01:37] <mattym> ah
#244 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> (with right spelling)
#245 [01:37] <mattym> what card?
#246 [01:37] <mattym> there was a brief period where stuff was double named with them
#247 [01:37] <Lord_Ralex> mobility 5450
#248 [01:38] <mattym> yeah that sounds about right
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#251 [01:38] <mattym> I remember when that swith happened
#252 [01:38] <Lord_Ralex> soon probably will be legacy, since the 4xxx is legacy now
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#254 [01:38] <mattym> Newegg had some desktop cars listed twice
#255 [01:38] <mattym> cards*
#256 [01:39] <mattym> once as ATI Radeon * and again as AMD Radeon *
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#261 [01:49] <mudcat> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_32_dd_ccc.exe Will these drivers support the card for for windows xp 32 bit?
#262 [01:49] <Lord_Ralex> mudcat, that one should
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#264 [01:50] <mudcat> Alright. Installing it now. Hopefully this does it.
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#290 [02:36] <transformers> i keep on crashing because of a expected tick in my world
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#293 [02:37] <transformers> ?
#294 [02:37] <NVpzu> i dont no how Minecraft instalirati
#295 [02:37] <transformers> How do you fix crashes
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#297 [02:38] <Wug> transformers: do you have any mods installed
#298 [02:38] <NVpzu> no
#299 [02:38] <NVpzu> no
#300 [02:38] <Wug> NVpzu: you're not transformers
#301 [02:38] <transformers> i have hexxit
#302 [02:38] <mattym> damn Wug beat me to it
#303 [02:38] <Wug> transformers: ask the mod author, and provide the crash report
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#305 [02:38] <transformers> i have the Hexxit
#306 [02:39] <Wug> transformers: ask the mod author, and provide the crash report
#307 [02:39] <transformers> how do i provide the crash report
#308 [02:39] <transformers> Time: 9/14/13 11:19 PM Description: Exception in world tick java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread at java.lang.Thread.start0(Native Method) at java.lang.Thread.start(Unknown Source) at codechicken.nei.ItemList.loadItems(ItemList.java:429) at codechicken.nei.LayoutManager.load(LayoutManager.java:649) at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.load(GuiContainerManager.java:433) at
#309 [02:39] <Wug> ?? pastebin
#310 [02:39] <VoxelHead> pastebin: This factoid is deprecated, please use ?? gist instead. Pastebin has started using ads that play sound without asking, and it is not ok.
#311 [02:39] <Wug> and take it to the mod authors. this channel is not for mods
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#313 [02:40] <transformers> i have no idea
#314 [02:40] <transformers> what is going on
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#318 [02:41] <Wug> NVpzu: download the client
#319 [02:41] <Wug> ..
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#321 [02:42] <mattym> Odd that a mod pack would cause that issue tho, he probably installed it wrong
#322 [02:42] <Wug> mattym: are you kidding
#323 [02:42] <mattym> mods on their own, yeah i would expect that
#324 [02:42] <Wug> adding 30 mods just compounds it
#325 [02:43] <mattym> i looked at the site for the one he mentioned and it seems to be a well maintained one, so it is a bit odd that they would release a pack that caused an issue
#326 [02:43] <Wug> each one just adds some extra corner cases and weird interactions that are hard to test and impossible to predict
#327 [02:43] <Bugboy1028> ?? mods
#328 [02:43] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#329 [02:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#330 [02:43] <Wug> there's also the fact that mod packs are often collections of mods stolen from their original authors by people who have no idea how to actually mod
#331 [02:43] <mattym> yes Bugboy1028 we are well aware of that, neither of us are talking support for mods
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#333 [02:44] <mattym> most of the authors have stopped caring or lifted old restrictions
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#335 [02:44] <mattym> that site seems to link back to the authors for all of them, which is all most require noq
#336 [02:45] <mattym> now*
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#342 [02:48] <samuel> mu mine craft para baixar os aquirvos esta dando error
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#344 [02:49] <samuel> meu mine craft para baixar os aquirvos esta dando error
#345 [02:49] <samuel> meu minecraft para baixar os aquirvos esta dando error
#346 [02:49] <mattym> any chance you speak any english?
#347 [02:49] <samuel> meu minecraft para baixar ,os aquirvos esta dando error
#348 [02:49] <samuel> meu minecraft para baixar ,os aquirvos esta dando error
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#350 [02:53] <bacon_avenger> Well, that was less than optimal
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#360 [03:24] <Diamondz> Minecraft wont download unto my computer.
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#363 [03:25] <GrygrFlzr> Diamondz, do you mean the launcher itself, or the actual game that the launcher downloads?
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#365 [03:31] <Bugboy1028> "Oh, someone is helping me! I guess I will part the room now!"
#366 [03:31] <Bugboy1028> -.-
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#371 [03:36] <qwertytrains> Hello?
#372 [03:36] <qwertytrains> Nvm
#373 [03:36] <qwertytrains> I was banned on #minecraft for a reason unknown to me
#374 [03:36] <qwertytrains> So
#375 [03:37] <qwertytrains> I wanted to see if it was a global minecraft irc ban
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#377 [03:45] <Necrodoom> you need to register to chat
#378 [03:46] <mattym> no
#379 [03:46] <mattym> but im guessiing you just answered your own question
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#384 [03:47] <BNC|IZ|STUPID|SOMETIMES> Yeah
#385 [03:47] <BNC|IZ|STUPID|SOMETIMES> And
#386 [03:47] <BNC|IZ|STUPID|SOMETIMES> Don't worry
#387 [03:48] <BNC|IZ|STUPID|SOMETIMES> I'm sorting my DictatorBNC out
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#391 [04:01] <Bugboy1028> BNC|IZ|STUPID|SOMETIMES , could you find shorter name?
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#401 [04:24] <DoktorDoom> Hey ho. Greets from germany :)
#402 [04:24] <GrygrFlzr> Hello.
#403 [04:25] <DoktorDoom> I got a question about setting up a server and about the mods. It is about general questions. Could anyone help me?
#404 [04:27] <GrygrFlzr> We can't help with mods. General server setup is fine.
#405 [04:27] <DoktorDoom> Ok that is cool. Then just another question.
#406 [04:28] <DoktorDoom> What about setting up a server online.
#407 [04:28] <DoktorDoom> How can I fly etc. Do I need Mods?
#408 [04:28] <DoktorDoom> I mean when I start a regular game
#409 [04:28] <DoktorDoom> not a creation on
#410 [04:28] <techno156> I think you need mods. :P
#411 [04:29] <techno156> For that, anyway
#412 [04:29] <techno156> As far as I am aware
#413 [04:29] <Andrio> You need mods to fly without Creative mode.
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#415 [04:32] <GrygrFlzr> You will likely be banned from the server for flying if it's not yours or belonging to one of your friends
#416 [04:32] <Andrio> There are server-side mods to enable flying.
#417 [04:34] <GrygrFlzr> And server.properties is most of the time enough to disable it as well :P
#418 [04:37] <DoktorDoom> It would be my one
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#421 [04:41] <Calinou> the default anti-fly is very inefficient, GrygrFlzr
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#424 [04:49] <techno156> Calinou, How does it work?
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#427 [04:52] <Calinou> if you're in air for more than 5 seconds (and not falling) you're kicked
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#429 [04:52] <techno156> Ah, ok
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#439 [05:22] <Joe> i have just purchased minecraft for my son but every time i try to download it to our laptop it says minecraft cannot be downloaded. I have disabled my anti virus to no avail
#440 [05:22] <BlueJay> My Minecraft account apparently says "User Not Found"
#441 [05:22] <techno156> BlueJay, Try logging in using your e-mail
#442 [05:22] <Chunkface> My email was deleted by my provider. It was linked to my Minecraft account, among many other services. I cannot access the email and there's no way to get that email back. What do?
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#444 [05:23] <techno156> Joe, Check your internet connection?
#445 [05:23] <techno156> Chunkface, Contact Mojang
#446 [05:23] <Chunkface> I don't suppose you've got links, Techno? I'd appreciate, if you had them on file. :D
#447 [05:23] <Joe> techno, my connection says excellent
#448 [05:24] <techno156> Joe, Odd...
#449 [05:24] <techno156> Chunkface, I'll check. :P
#450 [05:24] <techno156> ??< index
#451 [05:24] <Chunkface> I thank you very much.
#452 [05:24] <Joe> techno, odd as in can't help?
#453 [05:24] <techno156> ??> Chunkface ask/accounts
#454 [05:25] <VoxelHead> Chunkface: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://is.gd/mc_acct
#455 [05:25] <Chunkface> Thank you all for your assistance.
#456 [05:25] <techno156> np. :)
#457 [05:25] <techno156> Hm...
#458 [05:25] <techno156> Joe, What antivirus do you use?
#459 [05:26] <Joe> techno, kaspersky, so I have disabled it as mentioned in faq thread
#460 [05:27] <techno156> Hm...
#461 [05:27] <techno156> NO idea, sorry. :(
#462 [05:28] <Joe> ok, thanks, techno. Anyone else out there can help? What would be my next step?
#463 [05:30] <Chunkface> Let's see.. You've disabled your firewall.. Your account has full admin privileges, I presume?
#464 [05:31] <Joe> I presume so. Although i am using a company laptop to download. I have not had an issue before
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#466 [05:34] <Chunkface> Hmm... Besides running virus scans and other general maitenance--what browser are you using?
#467 [05:35] <Joe> chunkface, IE
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#470 [05:36] <Chunkface> Joe, are all those pesky drivers up-to-date?
#471 [05:37] <Joe> chunkface, not sure. Not really computer literate. How would I check?
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#473 [05:40] <Chunkface> Joe, you'd know if they weren't, tbh. Basically, in device manager, right click on any device (say a Display Adapter) and hit properties, then 'Driver' at the top.
#474 [05:40] <Chunkface> Joe>> then update driver. Your issue sounds more like one with IE in general.
#475 [05:42] <Joe> chunkface, would it be wirth trying downloading using another browser? Firefox?
#476 [05:42] <Chunkface> Always. It might be that you can't download anything at all from any browser, and what you're suggesting would completely erase that possibility.
#477 [05:42] <Chunkface> Joe, yes.
#478 [05:45] <Bugboy1028> or
#479 [05:45] <Bugboy1028> Joe, did you gave your dxdiag?
#480 [05:46] <Bugboy1028> ??> Joe win/dxdiag
#481 [05:46] <VoxelHead> Joe: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#482 [05:46] <VoxelHead> Joe: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://gist.github.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it back here.
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#484 [05:47] <Chunkface> Joe: As far as IE goes, check if downloads are enabled by going to Tools, Internet Options, then--on the security tab, making sure the "internet" is selected--click on custom level. Scroll down until you see the 'Downloads' section, and confirm that downloads are enabled.
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#486 [05:48] <Bugboy1028> ??> Chunkface fu/ie
#487 [05:48] <GrygrFlzr> What problem is he having?
#488 [05:48] <Bugboy1028> ??> Chunkface fubar/ie
#489 [05:48] <VoxelHead> Chunkface: Internet Exploder/Exploiter/Explorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#490 [05:48] <VoxelHead> Chunkface: Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
#491 [05:48] <Bugboy1028> GrygrFlzr, joe have drivers problem
#492 [05:49] <Bugboy1028> But he didnt give his dxdiag log yet
#493 [05:49] <Bugboy1028> wait...
#494 [05:49] <Bugboy1028> actually
#495 [05:49] <Joe> bugboy what is dxdiag log? Not computer savvi. Bought this for my 8 year old son
#496 [05:50] <Chunkface> >_< Joe is using IE to try to download Minecraft and is running into problem. I am attempting to solve the problem of IE not downloading Minecraft. CC: Bugboy1028
#497 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> ??> Joe hopper/dxdiag
#498 [05:50] <VoxelHead> Joe: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#499 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> Wait\
#500 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> ...
#501 [05:50] <Bugboy1028> ??> joe fubar/ie
#502 [05:50] <VoxelHead> joe: Internet Exploder/Exploiter/Explorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#503 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> That's a completely different problem
#504 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, try opening https://s3.amazonaws.com/ on your browser, what happens then?
#505 [05:50] <VoxelHead> joe: Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
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#507 [05:50] <GrygrFlzr> Bugboy1028, stop that, he only needs to see it once.
#508 [05:50] <Bugboy1028> sorry :<
#509 [05:51] <Bugboy1028> Chunkface, IE is terrible browser
#510 [05:51] <Bugboy1028> it have a lot of bugs
#511 [05:51] <Bugboy1028> and vulurables
#512 [05:52] <Joe> Grygr, opening link sends me to amazon web site
#513 [05:52] <Chunkface> BugBoy1028 That's not the point. The point is solving Joe's problem.
#514 [05:52] <GrygrFlzr> Ok, that should be what happens
#515 [05:52] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, can you download this? https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar
#516 [05:53] <Joe> Grygr, no
#517 [05:53] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, what happened when you tried?
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#519 [05:54] <Joe> Grygr, same as when I tried to download minecraft. 'Cannot download'
#520 [05:56] <GrygrFlzr> Are you running an Antivirus program or Firewall?
#521 [05:57] <Joe> Grygr, yes, kaspersky but I have disabled it as suggested
#522 [05:58] <Joe> voxelhead, I only get a white screen from your lonk
#523 [05:59] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, you cannot access https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ ?
#524 [05:59] <Joe> Grygr, yes it takes me to chrome. Shall I download it?
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#526 [06:00] <GrygrFlzr> Yes, download and install chrome, then try using it to download Minecraft
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#528 [06:01] <Joe> Grgrf, I meant this link...http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/.
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#530 [06:01] <Bugboy1028> oh, it returns as "Server error" to me, GrygrFlzr
#531 [06:01] <Bugboy1028> can you access the link, GrygrFlzr?
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#533 [06:02] <GrygrFlzr> Oh.
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#535 [06:03] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, you may use this for now: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
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#537 [06:05] <Joe> Grygr, I cannot download chrome. Same thing happens. Could there be an admin issue and how can I fix it
#538 [06:06] <Bugboy1028> Joe, are you using your son's account?
#539 [06:07] <Bugboy1028> to re-clarify, are you using your son's COMPUTER account ?
#540 [06:09] <Joe> Grygr, no, I bought minecraft today using my own details. I am using a company laptop but don't remember having any issues with downloads before. Could be wrong. How can I check whether there is an admin issue?
#541 [06:09] <Joe> *^ sorry, bugboy
#542 [06:12] <GrygrFlzr> Joe, click the Alt key, click Tools > Internet Options > Security tab > Downloads > File Downloads > Enabled > OK > OK and then try downloading either Minecraft or Chrome.
#543 [06:13] <GrygrFlzr> er, sorry, click Custom Level... before Downloads
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#546 [06:19] <Joe> Grygr, all of those were already in place and still wont download chrome
#547 [06:19] <Bugboy1028> Joe, listen to GrygrFlzr
#548 [06:19] <Bugboy1028> oh
#549 [06:21] <raudi> i'll play minecraft but when i open minecraft and go to play then comes : this error is craused by a lack of date graphics drivers . what's that ??
#550 [06:21] <GrygrFlzr> ??> raudi hopper/dxdiag
#551 [06:21] <VoxelHead> raudi: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#552 [06:22] <GrygrFlzr> raudi, this will not fix your problem, it will help us solve it
#553 [06:22] <raudi> ok
#554 [06:22] <techno156> GrygrFlzr, I thought that site went down?
#555 [06:23] <techno156> Was probably wrong. :P
#556 [06:23] <GrygrFlzr> techno156, I went straight to the owner and he fixed it.
#557 [06:26] <raudi> what i must make after number 1,2,3 ?
#558 [06:27] <GrygrFlzr> raudi, there should be a file on your desktop that you need to open
#559 [06:27] <raudi> ok
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#562 [06:32] <raudi> i have cope the text but i can't do it in the "box"
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#564 [06:34] <GrygrFlzr> raudi, to copy the text, press Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C, then to paste, click the box and press Ctrl+P
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#566 [06:38] <raudi> when i have make strg +a and than strg +c and i will can' do it in the box
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#568 [06:39] <Bugboy1028> Joe, did it say anything when you tried to download it?
#569 [06:39] <Bugboy1028> or did anything happens or did it ask you anything?>
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#574 [06:46] <techno156> GrygrFlzr, Ah, ok
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#608 [08:10] <Satchel_Joe> Hi everyone :)
#609 [08:10] <Satchel_Joe> I have problems understanding the logic behind pumpkin farming...
#610 [08:10] <Andrio> What is it you don't understand?
#611 [08:11] <Satchel_Joe> this is from wiki: The maximum possible efficiency for any melon or pumpkin farm is 50% (one fruit per stem).
#612 [08:11] <Satchel_Joe> How is one fruit per stem not 100%? :-)
#613 [08:12] <Andrio> The fruit grows next to the stem.
#614 [08:12] <Andrio> So you need two blocks of space for each one.
#615 [08:12] <Satchel_Joe> oh, so this is "spacial efficiency"?
#616 [08:12] <Satchel_Joe> like how many pumpkins can you farm per one block?
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#618 [08:13] <Andrio> As far as I know, yes.
#619 [08:14] <Satchel_Joe> great
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#621 [08:14] <Satchel_Joe> I have one more question, sir :)
#622 [08:16] <Satchel_Joe> If I understand it correctly, a pumpkin spawns in one of the four blocks adjacent to the stem - so now imagine that i put a stem in the middle of a 3x3 field, and I obstruct all the block around it except for the one on the left
#623 [08:16] <Satchel_Joe> what will happen? Will the pumpkin always spawn in that only possible dirt block, or will there be a 3/4 chance that a pumpkin will not spawn?
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#625 [08:18] <Andrio> I don't know..
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#627 [08:19] <Andrio> I highly doubt it'll never spawn a pumpkin though.
#628 [08:20] <Satchel_Joe> And I have a yet another question :)
#629 [08:20] <Andrio> OK. :-)
#630 [08:21] <Satchel_Joe> This is supposed to be the most efficient layout: http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/d/dd/Melon_Grid_A.png
#631 [08:22] <Calinou> space efficient*
#632 [08:22] <Calinou> time efficient would let the 4 blocks next to the stems available to ALL stems
#633 [08:22] <Satchel_Joe> My question is - why didn't they dig one block under the farm and put the water source UNDER the field? If they did so, they would get one more pumpkin on the same
#634 [08:22] <Satchel_Joe> *on the same field size
#635 [08:23] <Andrio> Apparently that won't hydrate the soil.
#636 [08:23] <Andrio> 'The water must be on the same level or 1 block above farmland block level.'
#637 [08:23] <Calinou> doesnt work
#638 [08:23] <Calinou> must be 1 block above or same level
#639 [08:24] <Satchel_Joe> Oh... so all that time, i thought my fields were hydrated.... I am... speechless :(
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#641 [08:25] <Zebr4> hi all
#642 [08:25] <Calinou> actually
#643 [08:25] <Calinou> you don't need to hydrate melon/pumpkin farm
#644 [08:25] <Calinou> dry soil with something planted doesn't decay
#645 [08:25] <Calinou> and pumpkins/melons grow on dirt since 1.1
#646 [08:25] <Zebr4> have tiny problem adding newest forge to SimpleMC
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#648 [08:25] <Calinou> if you break a seed the seed will regrow slower thogh
#649 [08:25] <Satchel_Joe> Well, thanks for all your advice!
#650 [08:25] <Calinou> ??> Zebr4 mods
#651 [08:25] <VoxelHead> Zebr4: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded clients or servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#652 [08:25] <VoxelHead> Zebr4: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#653 [08:25] <Satchel_Joe> I will hydrate it correctly from now on :)
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#655 [08:26] <Calinou> you don't need to
#656 [08:26] <Calinou> except if you want faster seed growth
#657 [08:26] <Satchel_Joe> I want...
#658 [08:26] <Calinou> once your seeds are grown you can remove the water
#659 [08:26] <Satchel_Joe> And you said that I should make all adjacent blocks available to all stems - which is exactly what I will try :)
#660 [08:27] <Zebr4> so could someone point me right direction > simplemc is custom launcher thats faster than normal launcher , but i cant find their irc channel
#661 [08:28] <cestislife> We don't know what it is.
#662 [08:28] <cestislife> So we cannot point you anywhere.
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#665 [08:28] <Zebr4> ill try the forge channel - take care everyone , bye!
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#667 [08:28] <cestislife> good luck with that.
#668 [08:29] <Calinou> Satchel_Joe: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/timeefficient.png
#669 [08:29] <Calinou> green is seed, yellow is a block where melon/pumpkin can spawn
#670 [08:29] <Rybo> hello does anybody know what internal exceptions java.net socketexception means
#671 [08:29] <Calinou> (patten repeats indefinitely, of course)
#672 [08:29] <cestislife> Full message would help.
#673 [08:29] <cestislife> That tells us nothing.
#674 [08:29] <Satchel_Joe> Thank you very much!
#675 [08:29] <Calinou> no problem
#676 [08:30] <Rybo> everytime i join a server i get a message internal exceptions java.net socketexceptions: software caused connection abort:recv this happens on every server
#677 [08:30] <Rybo> i have no firewalls or third-party
#678 [08:30] <cestislife> Rybo: Check if you have a program named "Relevant Knowledge" installed.
#679 [08:31] <Rybo> ok
#680 [08:31] <cestislife> If you do, uninstall it.
#681 [08:31] <Rybo> i dont have it installed
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#683 [08:31] <groudi> help
#684 [08:31] <Satchel_Joe> He's pulling your leg..
#685 [08:31] <cestislife> Check via "Uninstall a program" in the control panel.
#686 [08:31] <Rybo> i do not have it
#687 [08:32] <groudi> help
#688 [08:32] <Satchel_Joe> OK, thanks everyone again for your help, I'll be leaving now... Bye!
#689 [08:32] <cestislife> ??> groudi ask
#690 [08:32] <VoxelHead> groudi: Please don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#691 [08:32] <VoxelHead> groudi: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#692 [08:32] <cestislife> Rybo: Do you have K9 Web protection then.
#693 [08:32] <Rybo> yes
#694 [08:33] <cestislife> Remove it.
#695 [08:33] <cestislife> That is causing your error.
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#697 [08:33] <Rybo> but that is only for internet right?
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#699 [08:33] <cestislife> Rephrase.
#700 [08:34] <Rybo> isnt that only to stop you going on websites
#701 [08:34] <cestislife> Minecraft uses internet.
#702 [08:34] <Rybo> ok
#703 [08:34] <Rybo> il try thanks
#704 [08:34] <cestislife> Internet != websites
#705 [08:34] <Rybo> cestislife: thanks
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#710 [08:53] <raphiLP> my minecraft have a problem with my graphics a website saying i must do this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d37d1e3adaa556fc5847
#711 [08:54] <raphiLP> sorry for my englisch iam from germany
#712 [08:55] <raphiLP> hello
#713 [08:55] <cestislife> One moment.
#714 [08:55] <raphiLP> ok
#715 [08:56] <raphiLP> can you help me
#716 [08:56] <cestislife> I am reading your log.
#717 [08:56] <raphiLP> oh sorry
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#719 [08:57] <cestislife> raphiLP: Please install this - http://www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_vista32-64_dd_ccc.exe
#720 [08:57] <raphiLP> ok
#721 [08:57] <raphiLP> thanks
#722 [08:57] <raphiLP> bye
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#737 [09:12] <Johnny> hi
#738 [09:13] <cestislife> Hello.
#739 [09:13] <Johnny> My sever isnt working
#740 [09:13] <cestislife> That isn't elaborate enough.
#741 [09:13] <Johnny> ill send the crash report
#742 [09:13] <Johnny> nevermind
#743 [09:14] <Johnny> its that i cant join the server, it says not reaching server in my server list in minecraft (im using hamachi
#744 [09:15] <Johnny> I was wondering if you guys can help
#745 [09:15] <Johnny> hello?
#746 [09:16] <Johnny> cestislife? you there?
#747 [09:17] <Calinou> ??> Johnny patience
#748 [09:17] <VoxelHead> Johnny: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#749 [09:17] <VoxelHead> Johnny: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received.
#750 [09:17] <Calinou> also:
#751 [09:17] <Calinou> ?? fubar/hamachi
#752 [09:17] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on an IANA-allocated IP block (25.0.0.0/8). As such, Hamachi fundamentally conflicts with the internet itself. Concordantly, #Minecrafthelp will neither condone, support, nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#753 [09:17] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#754 [09:17] <Johnny> thanks for the help
#755 [09:17] <Johnny> bye
#756 [09:17] <Johnny> bye
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#759 [09:18] <Johnny> Im back
#760 [09:19] <Johnny> http://pastebin.com/k6whgLgV
#761 [09:19] <Johnny> act like i never said hamachi
#762 [09:19] <Calinou> no
#763 [09:19] <Johnny> ok
#764 [09:19] <Calinou> on top of that you're using CraftBukkit
#765 [09:19] <Calinou> which isn't supported here
#766 [09:20] <Johnny> Believe that i never said hamach
#767 [09:20] <Johnny> or craftbukkit
#768 [09:20] <Extreme> 25.* is hamachi
#769 [09:20] <Andrio> Did you type 25.148.224.50:25565 into your server.properties anywhere?
#770 [09:20] <Johnny> yes
#771 [09:20] <Extreme> that error is most certainly because of it
#772 [09:20] <Andrio> server-ip field?
#773 [09:21] <Andrio> If so, it's wrong.
#774 [09:21] <Johnny> then i got rid of it but it still wont show up in my server list
#775 [09:21] <Extreme> Andrio: Hamachi's networking is messing it up
#776 [09:21] <Andrio> Does it work if you just remove the :25565?
#777 [09:21] <Johnny> no
#778 [09:21] <Extreme> (because it's installed on the client)
#779 [09:21] <Johnny> it stops crashing but it still doesnt help
#780 [09:21] * Andrio has no experience with Hamachi.
#780 [09:21] <Extreme> Andrio: at java.net.Inet6AddressImpl.lookupAllHostAddr(Native
#781 [09:22] <Johnny> so do you guys have any idea how to fix it
#782 [09:22] <Andrio> ??>> Extreme ask/wtf
#783 [09:22] <Extreme> Johnny: uninstall hamachi
#784 [09:22] <Andrio> Try not using Hamachi?
#785 [09:23] <Johnny> i cant port forward
#786 [09:23] <Andrio> -_-
#787 [09:23] <Johnny> so i have to use hamachi
#788 [09:23] <Extreme> Johnny: we can't help with Hamachi
#789 [09:23] <Johnny> why not
#790 [09:24] <Extreme> Johnny: hint: the error is with hamachi networking drivers
#791 [09:24] <Extreme> ??> Johnny fubar/hamachi
#792 [09:24] <Johnny> will it work if i uninstall and then reinstall
#793 [09:24] <VoxelHead> Johnny: Hamachi has been squatting on an IANA-allocated IP block (25.0.0.0/8). As such, Hamachi fundamentally conflicts with the internet itself. Concordantly, #Minecrafthelp will neither condone, support, nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#794 [09:24] <VoxelHead> Johnny: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#795 [09:25] <Extreme> Johnny: is it just that server?
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#798 [09:25] <Johnny> idk my network admin name or password so i cant port forward
#799 [09:25] <Extreme> Johnny: is it just that server?
#800 [09:25] <Johnny> yes
#801 [09:26] <pavel> ano
#802 [09:26] <Extreme> Johnny: then that would make sense.
#803 [09:26] <Extreme> Johnny: clearly hamachi
#804 [09:26] <Johnny> will it work if i uninstall and then reinstall
#805 [09:26] <Extreme> Johnny: not reinstall
#806 [09:26] <Extreme> Johnny: we don't support hamachi
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#808 [09:26] <Johnny> k then
#809 [09:27] <Johnny> Fuck... that sucks but anyway thanks for the help bye and have a nice day
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#814 [09:32] <groudi> help mi en a error
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#821 [09:59] <gemod> tim set tim 102
#822 [09:59] <stupid3700> gemod: Eh?
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#827 [10:05] <Ricoo> Hallo?
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#834 [10:12] <doob> So i used to be able to play minecraft on this computer, got a new HD and when i download it and click open and then run, nothing happens
#835 [10:13] <stupid3700> doob: Do you have Java installed?
#836 [10:13] <doob> i just verified it on java version 7 update 40
#837 [10:13] <stupid3700> ??> doob win/java/reinst
#838 [10:14] <VoxelHead> doob: You need to reinstall Java.
#839 [10:14] <VoxelHead> doob: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#840 [10:14] <stupid3700> doob: Try reinstalling Java first.
#841 [10:14] <stupid3700> doob: When getting the latest version of Java, get Windows Offline (64-bit).
#842 [10:14] <doob> okay i min'
#843 [10:14] <doob> 1*
#844 [10:19] <doob> wheni try to uninstall java 7 update 21 it asks if i want to update it
#845 [10:20] <doob> if i say no, nothing happens
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#849 [10:21] <doob> okay its all gone
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#855 [10:24] <HadesRemix> My minecraft keeps running out of memory, I have tried everything... How do I fix this?
#856 [10:30] <HadesRemix> Well isnt this just so helpful!
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#859 [10:40] <aqugirl01> ich habe mein passwort vergessen was soll ich tun
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#877 [11:11] <itsyourboyejp> Does anyone else's single player world start server lagging? Like, even if you're playing offline, it seems like all the mobs from my mob trap drop but don't die, but they also stay there. Also I break a block but it doesn't drop, and if I replace it places it and normally takes it away from my inventory. It stays like that forever, I've even tested leaving it on overnight to see if the lag changes, and it doesn't. Can some
#878 [11:12] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, "single player world start server lagging"?
#879 [11:12] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, what?
#880 [11:12] <itsyourboyejp> Yup.
#881 [11:12] <itsyourboyejp> I can move around and everything, but GUIs won't open, blocks won't drop and mobs won't move/take damage.
#882 [11:12] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, are you playing single player?
#883 [11:12] <itsyourboyejp> Yes, I definitely am..
#884 [11:13] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, and does this apply to all worlds?
#885 [11:13] <itsyourboyejp> It is not a running server through Bukkit or Minecraft_Server, it is literally a world save.
#886 [11:13] <itsyourboyejp> Yes, it does.
#887 [11:13] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, are you using client mods?
#888 [11:14] <itsyourboyejp> Yes, I am playing Sky Den on 1.4.7, but I done it on 1.4.7 vanilla as well and set up my mob trap exactly the way it was with all the settings the same, and it seems to do the same.
#889 [11:14] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, we do not support old versions
#890 [11:14] <itsyourboyejp> I did some research and apparently it's related to the mobs that survived the drop can't create a path to get to me.
#891 [11:14] <itsyourboyejp> :/
#892 [11:14] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, as the topic says, We only support non-modded current releases.
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#894 [11:15] <itsyourboyejp> Bleh. Sorry then. I still hate this. Is there a way I can create a ticket to mojang then?
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#897 [11:15] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, nope
#898 [11:15] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, there is no legacy support really
#899 [11:16] <Extreme> itsyourboyejp, it's old for a reason
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#901 [11:16] <itsyourboyejp> Well, I'll go test it out on a vanilla 1.6.2 world then.
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#904 [11:19] <losalio> hi.. i keep getting a error " enternal exception : java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read time out " everytime i join a server... i heard lots of people use this and i am using 1.62.2 and new snapshots T_T
#905 [11:19] <Extreme> losalio, what antivirus are you using?
#906 [11:19] <Extreme> losalio, or firewall?
#907 [11:19] <losalio> let me check
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#909 [11:21] <losalio> windows firewall
#910 [11:21] <Extreme> losalio, disable it
#911 [11:21] <donadavs> Hello?
#912 [11:21] <donadavs> I'm getting a java error when I start the game
#913 [11:22] <donadavs> doesn't get past mojang logo
#914 [11:22] <Extreme> donadavs, are you using mods?
#915 [11:22] <donadavs> nope
#916 [11:22] <donadavs> windows 7 64
#917 [11:22] <Extreme> donadavs, what do you mean by java error?
#918 [11:23] <donadavs> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#919 [11:23] <Extreme> ??> donadavs devconsole
#920 [11:23] <VoxelHead> donadavs: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#921 [11:23] <VoxelHead> donadavs: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#922 [11:24] <donadavs> second tab?
#923 [11:24] <donadavs> don't see tabs in the launcher
#924 [11:25] <losalio> didn't help :/
#925 [11:25] <Extreme> donadavs, there are
#926 [11:25] <Extreme> losalio, what antivirus are you using?
#927 [11:25] <losalio> none at the moment
#928 [11:25] <Extreme> donadavs, are you not on the launcher?
#929 [11:25] <donadavs> ya
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#931 [11:26] <Extreme> donadavs, then do you not see this: http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/8/85/Launcher.png
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#933 [11:26] <danila> bcidyf
#934 [11:26] <Extreme> danila, ?
#935 [11:26] <donadavs> actually no... no tabs up there
#936 [11:26] <Extreme> losalio, what IP are you trying to connect to?
#937 [11:27] <Extreme> donadavs, are you using the launcher from http://minecraft.net/download?
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#939 [11:27] <losalio> its is : mc.enternalcracked.com but it happens on ALL server i try to connet to
#940 [11:27] <Extreme> losalio, that server is not online
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#942 [11:28] <donadavs> ok partly fixed
#943 [11:28] <losalio> sorry i mean't mc.eternalcracked.com
#944 [11:28] <donadavs> now I error report...
#945 [11:28] <Extreme> donadavs, are you using the new launcher?
#946 [11:29] <donadavs> yes, still same problem
#947 [11:29] <donadavs> where do you want error
#948 [11:29] <donadavs> report
#949 [11:29] <Extreme> donadavs, then when you crash give the development console
#950 [11:29] <Extreme> ??> donadavs devconsole
#951 [11:29] <VoxelHead> donadavs: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#952 [11:29] <VoxelHead> donadavs: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#953 [11:29] <donadavs> yes
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#955 [11:30] <losalio> extreme i mean mc.eternalcracked.com not mc.enternalcracked.com
#956 [11:30] <donadavs> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3d5877406be5b7eeab60
#957 [11:31] <Extreme> losalio, what is your Minecraft username?
#958 [11:31] <Extreme> ??> donadavs hopper/dxdiag
#959 [11:31] <VoxelHead> donadavs: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#960 [11:31] <losalio> well... i am (sadly) crack and it is losalio but i heard this also happen to people who bought the game too
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#962 [11:32] <Extreme> losalio, we do not support pirated clients
#963 [11:32] <Extreme> ??> losalio rule/1
#964 [11:32] <VoxelHead> losalio: http://is.gd/zB1w9I Rule 1: Do not talk about anything which is illegal in the USA, or would violate the Terms of Use of any software or service.
#965 [11:33] <donadavs> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e314922deb4e6fa9c4e
#966 [11:34] <bigo> i dont know how to download minecraft on my labtop
#967 [11:34] <Extreme> bigo, you can download the game from http://minecraft.net/download
#968 [11:35] <Extreme> donadavs, download and install: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22167&lang=eng&OSVersion=WindowsÏ%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=
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#971 [11:37] <donadavs> It says the driver is not validated installer will close
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#973 [11:38] <bigo> the pixel format is not accelerated
#974 [11:38] <Extreme> donadavs, are you sure?
#975 [11:38] <bigo> yes
#976 [11:38] <GrygrFlzr> ??> bigo irc/multitaskng
#977 [11:38] <donadavs> It then said do I want to try with recommended settings, I said yes same problem
#978 [11:38] <GrygrFlzr> ??> bigo irc/multitasking
#979 [11:38] <VoxelHead> bigo: In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addressee's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#980 [11:39] <bigo> ok geez
#981 [11:39] <Extreme> donadavs, that's because your system is picking up two of the same devices it seems
#982 [11:40] <donadavs> lol
#983 [11:40] <donadavs> I hate this computer
#984 [11:40] <Extreme> donadavs, you will have to uninstall your current graphics drivers and install the one I linked
#985 [11:41] <Extreme> ??> bigo hopper/dxdiag
#986 [11:41] <VoxelHead> bigo: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#987 [11:41] <donadavs> I'm sure it will ask for restart
#988 [11:41] <donadavs> anything esle before I try
#989 [11:41] <bigo> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/89edcb3bd4849b970880
#990 [11:41] <Extreme> donadavs, not really
#991 [11:41] <donadavs> K I'll try it, may be back for more lol
#992 [11:42] <Extreme> bigo, you pasted it to the wrong place
#993 [11:42] <Extreme> bigo, next time please use your eyes to look at pictorial instructions
#994 [11:43] <Extreme> bigo, also, that computer should not even running windows 7
#995 [11:43] <Extreme> bigo, it cannot play Minecraft
#996 [11:44] <bigo> shit
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#1004 [11:51] <Physco> Hello There
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#1006 [11:51] <Physco> I am on windows 8 and was trying to Play MInecraft
#1007 [11:51] <Physco> and got a Pixel Format Not Accelerated error
#1008 [11:52] <Physco> This is the Info.
#1009 [11:52] <Physco> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ff631da627e595739f0b
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#1011 [11:52] <Physco> Do you Know this fix?
#1012 [11:53] <Physco> Help Me!
#1013 [11:53] <Lutzee> Physco: You need to include all the information in the dxdiag.txt file
#1014 [11:53] <Physco> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ff631da627e595739f0b
#1015 [11:54] <Physco> There it is
#1016 [11:54] <Lutzee> That is not all the information, there is a lot more than that
#1017 [11:54] <Lutzee> That is not all the information, there is a lot more than that
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#1019 [11:54] <Physco> That is all it gave me?
#1020 [11:54] <Physco> Oh hold on
#1021 [11:55] <Physco> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/192157fb2477fefa0c64
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#1023 [11:55] <monarchs47> I can open Minecraft perfectly fine, but whenever I try to play or join in a game the mouse shows up in the picture and I cannot move or get out of the game, I try to hit escape to get back to the main screen but it will not work. The only way I can get out of it is by pressing Control-Alt-Delete and logging off. I am playing on Minecraft for Windows.
#1024 [11:55] <monarchs47> can some one help
#1025 [11:57] <monarchs47> please
#1026 [11:57] <Physco> got that Lutzee?
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#1029 [12:00] <HadesRemix> My Minecraft keeps running out of memory...
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#1031 [12:00] <Physco> Hello..
#1032 [12:01] <HadesRemix> Does anyone know a way to fix this?
#1033 [12:01] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: How much RAM do you have available?
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#1035 [12:01] <HadesRemix> 3 GB
#1036 [12:01] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: You can try increasing allocated RAM, but you only have a 32-bit OS so you can't give much extra.
#1037 [12:02] <HadesRemix> I have done that.
#1038 [12:02] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: In the launcher, click 'Edit profile', tick the 'JVM Arguments' checkbox and put in the following: -Xmx1G
#1039 [12:02] <Lutzee> Physco: You updated to windows 8 didn't you..
#1040 [12:02] <HadesRemix> No.
#1041 [12:02] <HadesRemix> And I have done that also.
#1042 [12:02] <Physco> I Bought it with windows 8 but sure
#1043 [12:03] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: You can try it with -Xmx1536M instead
#1044 [12:03] <HadesRemix> That is what I have in the JVM arguments section.
#1045 [12:03] <monarchs47> whenever i try to play the mouse appears on the game
#1046 [12:03] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: There's not much else that can be done, then. You'd have to change to a 64-bit OS, which would require re-installing Windows from scratch.
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#1048 [12:04] <HadesRemix> So basically I should just get a new computer?
#1049 [12:04] <stupid3700> HadesRemix: I was about to suggest that.
#1050 [12:04] <HadesRemix> Alright.
#1051 [12:04] <Lutzee> Physco: Download and install these drivers, but I can't garuntee they will work http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.10_mobility_beta.exe
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#1053 [12:05] <Physco> Okay Thanks.
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#1061 [12:16] <Guest44770> hello, when i launch minecraft if im not in fullscreen mode it just freezes
#1062 [12:16] <Guest44770> anybody know how to fix this?
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#1064 [12:18] <Filup7> my minecraft is not working it is saying bootstrap (v5) what shull i do?
#1065 [12:19] <Bugboy1028_> Guest44770 and Filup7 ,be patient and volunteers will be with you shortly
#1066 [12:19] <Filup7> okey
#1067 [12:20] <Guest44770> ok
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#1070 [12:23] <kikss> i have an openGL error crash report
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#1072 [12:23] <kikss> c'mon
#1073 [12:23] <Giroud> i can't create a server for me and my friend
#1074 [12:24] <Giroud> I've tried EVERYTHING
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#1089 [12:33] <CrusaderDeleters> .
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#1094 [12:39] <Jaren> It says i need to install drivers but i dont know how
#1095 [12:39] <stupid3700> ??> Jaren hopper/dxdiag
#1096 [12:39] <VoxelHead> Jaren: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1097 [12:40] <Jaren> its a DxDiag
#1098 [12:41] <stupid3700> Jaren: If you've already done it, please post the link to it.
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#1101 [12:42] <Jaren> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/925d5d95895644450038
#1102 [12:44] <stupid3700> Jaren: Try the following: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_32_dd_ccc.exe
#1103 [12:45] <monarchs47> I can open Minecraft perfectly fine, but whenever I try to play or join in a game the mouse shows up in the picture and I cannot move or get out of the game, I try to hit escape to get back to the main screen but it will not work. The only way I can get out of it is by pressing Control-Alt-Delete and logging off. I am playing on Minecraft for Windows. Help please
#1104 [12:45] <Lord_Ralex> stupid3700, wrong version
#1105 [12:46] <TFrag> Lord_Ralex that's the right one.
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#1107 [12:46] <TFrag> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista32.aspx
#1108 [12:46] <stupid3700> It's a direct download link.
#1109 [12:46] <Lord_Ralex> TFrag, with legacy, the beta is probably better
#1110 [12:47] <Lord_Ralex> and with windows and their windows update, the beta usually actually installs right
#1111 [12:47] <TFrag> Release date: 1/21/2013
#1112 [12:47] <stupid3700> Well, beta is http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.4_legacy_beta_vista_win7_win8.exe
#1113 [12:47] <TFrag> Dunno so much
#1114 [12:47] <monarchs47> I can open Minecraft perfectly fine, but whenever I try to play or join in a game the mouse shows up in the picture and I cannot move or get out of the game, I try to hit escape to get back to the main screen but it will not work. The only way I can get out of it is by pressing Control-Alt-Delete and logging off. I am playing on Minecraft for Windows.
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#1116 [12:48] <Lord_Ralex> TFrag, I've had to deal with the amd set for a while, legacy it is almost always best to use the beta if it has one
#1117 [12:48] <TFrag> True
#1118 [12:48] <TFrag> 99% of the time the Beta is completely fine.
#1119 [12:48] <TFrag> I'm running it now tbh
#1120 [12:48] <TFrag> Either way, the guys driver is out of date.
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#1124 [12:51] <monarchs47> I can open Minecraft perfectly fine, but whenever I try to play or join in a game the mouse shows up in the picture and I cannot move or get out of the game, I try to hit escape to get back to the main screen but it will not work. The only way I can get out of it is by pressing Control-Alt-Delete and logging off. I am playing on Minecraft for Windows. Help please
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#1129 [12:56] <Extreme> monarchs47, the picture?
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#1133 [13:04] <Toots> I purchased Minecraft for my daughter @ a month ago and downloaded the file (1.6.2). She played it for a couple of weeks but now cannot get it to run. I've tried to download the file again but everytime we hit play we end up with a black screen and it does not respond.
#1134 [13:05] <xales> ??> Toots win/reinst
#1135 [13:05] <VoxelHead> Toots: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1136 [13:05] <VoxelHead> Toots: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1140 [13:07] <Frustrated> I cannot log in or receive help emails.
#1141 [13:08] <xales> Frustrated: Do you use Comcast or AOL as your email provider?
#1142 [13:08] <Frustrated> I have an aol account but I doubt that it is the one that I used to register. My gmail account is my go-to, then yahoo, then aol.
#1143 [13:09] <xales> Frustrated: So you don't even know what email address your account is on?
#1144 [13:09] <Frustrated> I am not positive, no.
#1145 [13:09] <monarchs47> Extreme the game screeen
#1146 [13:09] <xales> Frustrated: When did you buy Minecraft?
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#1148 [13:09] <Frustrated> A few years ago. I know that's unhelpful.
#1149 [13:10] <Frustrated> Before the release. The game was in beta
#1150 [13:10] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 launcher/open
#1151 [13:10] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: To make sure the launcher stays open: click Edit Profile, then check Launcher Visibility, select Keep Launcher Open and finally hit Save Profile.
#1152 [13:10] <xales> Frustrated: That's all I needed to know, actually.
#1153 [13:10] <Extreme> monarchs47, when it freezes, do this:
#1154 [13:10] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 devconsole
#1155 [13:10] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1156 [13:10] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1157 [13:10] <xales> Frustrated: How long did you wait since requesting a password reset?
#1158 [13:11] <Frustrated> It's been 15 minutes or so.
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#1160 [13:11] <xales> Frustrated: The mailserver is a bit odd, and there were problem with the webserver yesterday, it may take a bit longer unfortunately
#1161 [13:11] <Frustrated> Okay.
#1162 [13:11] <xales> Frustrated: If it's going to the AOL address you'll never get it, because AOL has decided that Mojang sends them too much email and now won't accept it
#1163 [13:12] <Frustrated> Cool. I really hope that I did not use that account, then.
#1164 [13:12] <xales> Frustrated: When you originally bought Minecraft, you were emailed a receipt, which has a transaction ID in it. If you have that, you can open a ticket and request they change your password. It'll take a few days for that though. If you don't have it, and you paid with PayPal, you can retrieve it from your PayPal account. Otherwise, you'll have to call Skrill, or just open a ticket and
#1165 [13:12] <xales> see what they say about alternate verification available.
#1166 [13:13] <Magic_Galaxy> When I go onto my minecraft game it says 'play demo' which is strange because I have already payed for the game and it has been working fine up to this point. Do you know how I can get my minecraft back?
#1167 [13:14] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: ok one second
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#1169 [13:14] <Frustrated> xales, when I could not rememeber my username, I received an email telling me what it was. This was less than 30 minutes ago. When I use that username to try to retrieve my password, it tells me that the username does not exist....
#1170 [13:14] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Log out, and log in using your email address
#1171 [13:14] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: It wont let me copy whats in the devolpment console
#1172 [13:15] <xales> ??> monarchs47 win/edit
#1173 [13:15] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
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#1175 [13:15] <Magic_Galaxy> I have already done that!
#1176 [13:15] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Then you're logging in with the wrong account.
#1177 [13:15] <Magic_Galaxy> I am definitely not, it has been working fine for a while and I dont know what happened but it is not working anymore!
#1178 [13:16] <xales> ??> Magic_Galaxy mc.net/paid
#1179 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Magic_Galaxy: There is a very simple way to see whether Mojang believes your account is paid for or not. Log in at https://account.mojang.com/me and look for a 'My Games' heading. If you don't see Minecraft listed there, nor in My Gift Codes, then Mojang has not received your monies. See http://i.imgur.com/ySNIi0V.png for an exemplary picture.
#1180 [13:16] <yannmael> I cant download minecraft completely I dont know how to update my graphic cards
#1181 [13:17] <Magic_Galaxy> It only says that there is minecraft pocket edition, not just minecraft anymore :(
#1182 [13:17] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0ff156f862d5dccffc47
#1183 [13:17] <Frustrated> when I could not rememeber my username, I received an email telling me what it was. This was less than 30 minutes ago. When I use that username to try to retrieve my password, it tells me that the username does not exist....
#1184 [13:17] <Extreme> ??> yannmael hopper/dxdiag
#1185 [13:17] <VoxelHead> yannmael: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
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#1187 [13:17] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 win/java/reinst
#1188 [13:17] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: You need to reinstall Java.
#1189 [13:17] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#1190 [13:17] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 win/reinst
#1191 [13:17] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1192 [13:18] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1193 [13:18] <Magic_Galaxy> please help!
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#1196 [13:18] <yannmael> I have followed the steps
#1197 [13:18] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: Thanks alot
#1198 [13:18] <yannmael> https://gist.github.com/gueguce/753a7490b9822f1b2210
#1199 [13:18] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Then you're on the wrong account, or your transaction was reversed.
#1200 [13:18] <xales> Frustrated: What is the username?
#1201 [13:18] <ward3n> Hi all, Can anyone reccomend a mod that saves crafting recipes and I can just click them to make them ?
#1202 [13:18] <Frustrated> D3m0sth3n3s
#1203 [13:19] <Magic_Galaxy> What do you mean by my transaction was reserved?
#1204 [13:19] <Extreme> yannmael, one moment
#1205 [13:19] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Did you buy Minecraft, or did your parents or a friend buy it?
#1206 [13:19] <Magic_Galaxy> I bought it
#1207 [13:20] <Extreme> yannmael, download and install this: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.10_mobility_beta.exe
#1208 [13:20] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Look at your statement and see if the transaction is still there.
#1209 [13:20] <Magic_Galaxy> where do i look at my statement? :)
#1210 [13:20] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: Your bank statement.
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#1212 [13:20] <xales> Frustrated: That username isn't premium, so it effectively does not exist any more.
#1213 [13:20] <Magic_Galaxy> where though?
#1214 [13:21] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: So you didn't buy it, then.
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#1216 [13:21] <Frustrated> Okay....but I paid for the game.....
#1217 [13:21] <xales> Frustrated: But not on that account.
#1218 [13:21] <Frustrated> Ah.
#1219 [13:21] <xales> Magic_Galaxy: When I say "who bought it" I mean "who does the thing that the money came from belong to"
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#1224 [13:22] <Frustrated> alright, well I have the Purchase Complete email in my gmail account.
#1225 [13:22] <Doctrcid> Hi, I cant log in to my account because apparently my password and username are wrong, even though it is 100% correct, my friend had a similar issue and he had to purchase the game again. I have purchased this game already and have been able to login recently
#1226 [13:22] <xales> Frustrated: Is the Gmail account the one you requested the username list for?
#1227 [13:22] <Frustrated> yes
#1228 [13:22] <Magic_Galaxy> oh my parents
#1229 [13:22] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: i just uninstalled all Java so do i need to reinstall minecraft?
#1230 [13:23] <Extreme> monarchs47, VoxelHead is a bot
#1231 [13:23] <Extreme> monarchs47, and yes
#1232 [13:23] <Frustrated> and it gives me a username which is one character different. It's all coming together.
#1233 [13:23] <monarchs47> Extreme, thanks
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#1235 [13:24] <Frustrated> There is the email. My apologies.
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#1238 [13:24] <monarchs47> Extreme, do you have the link he gave me still on your chat? I had to exit
#1239 [13:25] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 win/java/reinst
#1240 [13:25] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: You need to reinstall Java.
#1241 [13:25] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#1242 [13:25] <Extreme> ??> monarchs47 win/reinst
#1243 [13:25] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1244 [13:25] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1245 [13:25] <Chaos0420> why can't I play minecraft on my laptop? it's windows 8
#1246 [13:25] <xales> Chaos0420: I don't know, why can't you?
#1247 [13:25] <Doctrcid> Hi, I cant log in to my account because apparently my password and username are wrong, even though it is 100% correct, my friend had a similar issue and he had to purchase the game again. I have purchased this game already and have been able to login recently
#1248 [13:26] <Frustrated> Thank you, xales. I'll be more careful reading in the future. Cheers.
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#1251 [13:26] <xales> Doctrcid: Your username is your email address. Are you using your email address?
#1252 [13:26] <Doctrcid> I have tried that yes, literally a month ago I was fine using my minecraft username
#1253 [13:27] <monarchs47> extreme: what does win/reinst mean?
#1254 [13:27] <Chaos0420> it gives me pixel format not accelerated and i tried updating my drivers but they said they didnt need it
#1255 [13:27] <Extreme> monarchs47, forget that and listen to VoxelHead
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#1257 [13:27] <xales> ??> Chaos0420 hopper/dxdiag
#1258 [13:27] <VoxelHead> Chaos0420: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1259 [13:27] <xales> Doctrcid: When did you buy Minecraft?
#1260 [13:28] <Chaos0420> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e27bbcf565bb0d80546
#1261 [13:28] <Doctrcid> around when it was beta time i think
#1262 [13:28] <xales> Doctrcid: In that case, you would log in using your username
#1263 [13:28] <xales> Doctrcid: Unless you migrated your account.
#1264 [13:29] <Doctrcid> I have not migrated, it was working with my username before about a month ago and now it isnt
#1265 [13:29] <xales> Chaos0420: Download and install: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.4_legacy_beta_vista_win7_win8.exe
#1266 [13:29] <xales> Doctrcid: And did you reset your password?
#1267 [13:30] <Doctrcid> not yet, shall I try and see if that works?
#1268 [13:30] <xales> Doctrcid: Yes...
#1269 [13:31] <yannmael> I have installed it what should I do now please ?
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#1272 [13:32] <xales> yannmael: Then try running Minecraft again.
#1273 [13:34] <yannmael> Thank you xales we are good now :)
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#1275 [13:34] <Doctrcid> ah that worked, thank you very much :)
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#1280 [13:38] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: I have unistalled and reinstalled Minecraft and Java. Hopefully this works
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#1282 [13:38] <Chaos0420> thank u
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#1285 [13:40] <monarchs47> VoxelHead: It didnt work it said Java caused the game to not be able to launch
#1286 [13:40] <xales> monarchs47: What, exactly, did it say?
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#1288 [13:43] <GB-ShadowLord24> Hi, I play Minecraft for the Xbox360, Right now me and my friends are playing on a community map that i personally made with my ex-girlfriend and alot of friends. i do have rules on them. I was hoping for one question. see, im a "president" in the community and my favorite president from history is none other than John F, Kennedy. I was hoping is there a way to make a skin pack that is free for Xbox360 that give all dead pres
#1289 [13:44] <Calinou> no
#1290 [13:44] <monarchs47> xales: "Couldnt launch game java.io.IOException: cannot run program" and it says "Caused by: java.io.IOException: Create process error=2, the system cannot find the file specified"
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#1292 [13:44] <xales> monarchs47: Is there other text in the window?
#1293 [13:45] <monarchs47> xales: yes do you want me to copy it all and put it in here?
#1294 [13:45] <xales> monarchs47: Copy and paste it to http://pastie.org/ and submit it, then give us the link it takes you to.
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#1296 [13:45] <GB-ShadowLord24> What? I am asking the MineCraft people for a simple but honorable thing to do for my world. Please answer my question
#1297 [13:45] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: No.
#1298 [13:45] <Calinou> we aren't affiliated with 4J studios here
#1299 [13:46] <GB-ShadowLord24> How do I get in contact with 4J studios?
#1300 [13:46] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: They will give you the same answer.
#1301 [13:46] <monarchs47> xales: http://pastie.org/8328203
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#1303 [13:46] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: It's simply not feasible, time wise or economically, for them to make whatever skins that people ask for.
#1304 [13:46] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: If you want to be able to use your own skins, you play on the PC, not on the Xbox.
#1305 [13:46] <GB-ShadowLord24> Do i look i have money?
#1306 [13:47] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: What?
#1307 [13:47] <GB-ShadowLord24> Do i look like i have a stupid pc? no, i dont. my pc broke down YEARS AGO and hasnt worked since. i am broke.
#1308 [13:48] <monarchs47> xales: http://pastie.org/8328203
#1309 [13:48] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: You could quite easily buy a PC with all the money you waste every month on Xbox Live :p
#1310 [13:48] <GB-ShadowLord24> Now, if you please, hand me some INFO to contact 4J
#1311 [13:48] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: They will give you the same answer. The answer is no.
#1312 [13:49] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: I'm not going to give you their information so you can waste their time, on a Sunday of all days.
#1313 [13:49] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, you're launcher options are incorrect
#1314 [13:49] <Lord_Ralex> ??> monarchs47 win/.minecraft
#1315 [13:49] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type %AppData%\.minecraft and click OK.
#1316 [13:49] <GB-ShadowLord24> The reason i ask is because i honestly dont believe you bro ham
#1317 [13:49] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: Hi there.
#1318 [13:49] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: How do I fix them?
#1319 [13:49] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: This is the official Minecraft support channel.
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#1321 [13:49] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: The answer to your question is 0,4NO
#1322 [13:49] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, do what I just had VoxelHead tell you
#1323 [13:49] <xales> GB-ShadowLord24: Bye.
#1324 [13:50] <GB-ShadowLord24> Your funny idiot. Tell me the 4J studio info. you fucking moron. as a 16 year old, i aint that dumb to honestly believe your this stupid games support
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#1326 [13:51] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: Where do I do that at?
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#1328 [13:52] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type %AppData%\.minecraft and click OK.
#1329 [13:53] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: So i hold W i n + R and a window should pop up? I think i just did it and there is no window
#1330 [13:54] <Lord_Ralex> ??> monarchs47 win/key/image
#1331 [13:54] <Morrolan> Win as in the windows button, with the lil' flag on it.
#1332 [13:54] <VoxelHead> monarchs47: NOTE: It is the one in the middle. May not appear exactly as shown. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Ctl_wndws_alt.jpg
#1333 [13:54] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, that is the Win key, press it and the 'R' button at the same time, then release them both
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#1335 [13:56] <Gary_Koopa> can i disable amience? also, do redstone torches make enough light for ambience to not play?
#1336 [13:58] <xales> Gary_Koopa: You can mute it in the options
#1337 [13:58] <xales> Gary_Koopa: And I don't think they give off any light, I don't remember
#1338 [13:59] <xales> oh, no, they do
#1339 [13:59] <Lord_Ralex> they give off a little
#1340 [13:59] <xales> just a small amount
#1341 [13:59] <Gary_Koopa> (im using 13w37b)
#1342 [13:59] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: Im in the .minecraft folder and i cant find where you click ok
#1343 [13:59] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, as long as you are in the folder, then you are where you need to be
#1344 [13:59] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, in there will be a launcher_profiles.json file
#1345 [13:59] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, delete it
#1346 [14:00] <Gary_Koopa> can i mute ambience WITHOUT muting everything else?
#1347 [14:00] <xales> Gary_Koopa: Yes, mute Music
#1348 [14:00] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: ok i have it deleted. What now?
#1349 [14:00] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, restart Minecraft
#1350 [14:03] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: a window popped up and said that Windows Firewall has blocked some of the features of the game
#1351 [14:03] <Lord_Ralex> monarchs47, allow it
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#1354 [14:05] <JOJO> I need help my minecart says fatal error
#1355 [14:05] <monarchs47> Lord_Ralex: It worked! Thank you so much!!! It had not been working for months
#1356 [14:05] <xales> JOJO: And what would the error be?
#1357 [14:06] <JOJO> net.minecarft.bootstarp.fatalbootstrap error
#1358 [14:06] <xales> ??> JOJO devconsole
#1359 [14:06] <JOJO> and keeps going
#1360 [14:06] <VoxelHead> JOJO: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1361 [14:06] <VoxelHead> JOJO: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1362 [14:07] <JOJO> i cant copy the text
#1363 [14:07] <xales> ??> JOJO win/edit
#1364 [14:07] <VoxelHead> JOJO: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
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#1368 [14:08] <JOJO> it took me to
#1369 [14:08] <JOJO> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/202227da35c824c28e75
#1370 [14:09] <bigmacloves> Im having a problem entering both single player minecraft and multiplayer minecraft
#1371 [14:09] <xales> JOJO: You need to copy EVERYTHING in the box.
#1372 [14:09] <JOJO> oh
#1373 [14:09] <xales> bigmacloves: And what would that problem be?
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#1375 [14:10] <bigmacloves> everytime i try to connect to a world/server it says theres an internal java.script error but it only happens on minecraft
#1376 [14:10] <bigmacloves> and i have the newest version of java
#1377 [14:10] <xales> bigmacloves: What, exactly, is the error message?
#1378 [14:10] <JOJO> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81abe728ee951f82755c
#1379 [14:10] <JOJO> there
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#1381 [14:10] <bigmacloves> ill copy and paste it
#1382 [14:10] <xales> ??> JOJO win/java/reinst
#1383 [14:10] <VoxelHead> JOJO: You need to reinstall Java.
#1384 [14:11] <VoxelHead> JOJO: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#1385 [14:12] <JOJO> were is programs and features in control panel
#1386 [14:12] <xales> JOJO: Look for it. It's right there.
#1387 [14:12] <JOJO> ok found it
#1388 [14:13] <TFrag> Helpful bot.,
#1389 [14:13] <JOJO> its uninstalling
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#1391 [14:14] <xales> JOJO: If there are more than one version, make sure you uninstall ALL of them
#1392 [14:14] <cal715> I have Optifine, Magic Launcher, Modloader, and More Stackables, Spawner GUI, and Shelf
#1393 [14:15] <xales> cal715: We can't help with mods here, sorry.
#1394 [14:15] <cal715> but when i load a new world, it loads and crashes :/
#1395 [14:15] <xales> cal715: Your mods are breaking it.
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#1397 [14:16] <cal715> how? if you can explain i should be able to figure it out
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#1399 [14:16] <TFrag> One word: Incompatability.
#1400 [14:16] <xales> cal715: One of the mods is broken or incompatible with another mod.
#1401 [14:16] <bigmacloves> it says Interal Exception: java.lang.NullPointerException
#1402 [14:16] <xales> bigmacloves: It says that when you try to connect to a server?
#1403 [14:17] <bigmacloves> yes
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#1405 [14:17] <cal715> they're all Risugami's?
#1406 [14:17] <TFrag> Might want to contact him then cal715
#1407 [14:17] <xales> cal715: ask for help in #risucraft then
#1408 [14:17] <xales> bigmacloves: Does it close Minecraft and say that in a crash report, or does it just say it in the "connect failed" window?
#1409 [14:18] <bigmacloves> in the connect fail window
#1410 [14:18] <xales> ??> bigmacloves win/java/reinst
#1411 [14:18] <VoxelHead> bigmacloves: You need to reinstall Java.
#1412 [14:18] <VoxelHead> bigmacloves: First, go to the Programs and Features in Control Panel (Add and Remove Programs on XP). Uninstall everything that says Java in the name. Then, go to http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp re-install Java. See also java/1.6 or java/1.7.
#1413 [14:19] <bigmacloves> ok ill try it
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#1419 [14:23] <Coldbody> My Pixel Formal isnt accelerated
#1420 [14:23] <Coldbody> Format*
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#1422 [14:23] <Extreme> ??> Coldbody hopper/dxdiag
#1423 [14:23] <VoxelHead> Coldbody: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1424 [14:23] <Coldbody> I've done this
#1425 [14:24] <Coldbody> I don't know where to go after ive finished this.
#1426 [14:24] <Extreme> Coldbody, then give us the link to your dxdiag
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#1428 [14:24] <Coldbody> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a1a6cd089a70af4401ad
#1429 [14:24] <Extreme> Coldbody, you only gave part of the log
#1430 [14:25] <Coldbody> Did i not copy it all?
#1431 [14:25] <Extreme> Coldbody, No
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#1433 [14:25] <Extreme> ??> Coldbody win/edit
#1434 [14:25] <VoxelHead> Coldbody: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
#1435 [14:25] <VoxelHead> Coldbody: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
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#1438 [14:26] <mattym> Extreme: From what is shown there, he doesnt even have a 3D capable graphics card
#1439 [14:26] <Coldbody> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a1a6cd089a70af4401ad This is what I copy'd and pasted from my DirectXDiag
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#1442 [14:27] <Coldbody> My Graphics card needs to be updated and when I got on, I figured that this was how I do it :\
#1443 [14:27] <Extreme> Coldbody, that is the exact same thing
#1444 [14:27] <xales> Coldbody: Download and install: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-tesla-grid-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-320.86-whql-driver.html
#1445 [14:27] <Coldbody> Thanks
#1446 [14:28] <xales> not that it will work, probably
#1447 [14:28] <SAH78> trying to download previous bought minecraft program keep getting pixel error any ideas
#1448 [14:28] <xales> that's a workstation card
#1449 [14:28] <xales> ??> SAH78 hopper/dxdiag
#1450 [14:28] <VoxelHead> SAH78: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1451 [14:28] <SAH78> will do thanks
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#1457 [14:31] <cal715> whats the right version of Optifine (Non Forge version?)
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#1459 [14:32] <xales> cal715: It's on the forum thread. We can't help with mods here.
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#1470 [14:41] <SAH78_> i have a DXDig report and link to gisthub who do i send to at mojang support centre
#1471 [14:41] <mattym> just post the link here
#1472 [14:41] <SAH78_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8f1c94a0ebd65c3f5cae
#1473 [14:43] <mattym> Did you play Minecraft on this computer before?
#1474 [14:44] <SAH78_> no, had on apple desktop want to move PC
#1475 [14:45] <Lord_Ralex> SAH78_, that video card is not supported on windows 8
#1476 [14:46] <mattym> Is that card/chip even enough for minecraft in the first place?
#1477 [14:46] <SAH78_> do i have to buy new version to play on windows 8
#1478 [14:46] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, it can run it, not great though
#1479 [14:46] <Lord_Ralex> SAH78_, you have to either reinstall Windows 7 on that computer, get a new video card, or get a new computer
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#1481 [14:47] <mattym> Do you have the link to the extended hardware compatability list
#1482 [14:47] <SAH78_> thanks
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#1484 [14:47] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, in general: if it supports OpenGL 1.2, it can "run" Minecraft
#1485 [14:49] <mattym> wasnt there at one point a page someone here compiled with a better Minimum/Reccomended list
#1486 [14:49] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_requirements
#1487 [14:49] <Lord_Ralex> it is outdated though
#1488 [14:49] <mattym> not the one i had in mind, but still more info than Mojangs site
#1489 [14:50] <Lord_Ralex> the hdd space is greater than what it says
#1490 [14:50] <Lord_Ralex> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance ?
#1491 [14:50] <mattym> Nah i dont remember it being on the wiki
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#1507 [15:17] <danii92> hello guys, i can't login in minecraft anymore. everything worked great this afternoon and as i tried to play in the evening i cant login. my email and password is 100% correct, but the launcher is saying that it is not correct. please help me
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#1509 [15:18] <xales> danii92: Did you try resetting your password?
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#1511 [15:18] <danii92> yes i did, and i reinstalled minecraft, but i still cant login
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#1517 [15:19] <danii92> but on the website i can login with the same data
#1518 [15:20] <danii92> only in the launcher it does not work
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#1521 [15:20] <xales> danii92: Restart your computer perhaps?
#1522 [15:21] <danii92> did, problem is still there..
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#1525 [15:21] <xales> danii92: When you log in to https://account.mojang.com/me does it list Minecraft underneath the heading My Games (NOT the "games" dropdown menu at the top)
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#1529 [15:22] <danii92> yes it is listed there, i bought it in july this year
#1530 [15:22] <xales> danii92: In the launcher, completely clear out both the email address and password fields, and type it again
#1531 [15:23] <danii92> wait i try
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#1533 [15:24] <danii92> still the same problem, the launcher is saying that my login data is not correct, but i'm 100% sure it is right
#1534 [15:25] <danii92> website login with same data works, launcher not..
#1535 [15:26] <xales> ??> danii92 win/reinst
#1536 [15:26] <VoxelHead> danii92: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1537 [15:26] <VoxelHead> danii92: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1539 [15:26] <danii92> lil moment please
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#1542 [15:28] <danii92> still doesn't work..
#1543 [15:30] <xales> danii92: Change your password on the website
#1544 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> danii92 - What is the exact error the launcher is telling you?
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#1546 [15:32] <danii92> Sorry, but your username or password is incorrect! Please try again. If you need help, try the "Forgot Password" link.
#1547 [15:32] <danii92> i tried again, and the same data is workin on the website, not in the launcher
#1548 [15:33] <danii92> but it worked today, few hours ago
#1549 [15:33] <danii92> *before
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#1552 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> This may be something Mojang will need to clear up for you.
#1553 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> danii92 mojang/email
#1554 [15:37] <VoxelHead> danii92: You can email Mojang by going here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1555 [15:37] <danii92> ok, i'll write them, thank you
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#1559 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> HE;;O
#1560 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> LLO
#1561 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> I NEED HELP
#1562 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> WITH?
#1563 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> My minecrft
#1564 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> crashes
#1565 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> all time
#1566 [15:41] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i cant ope it
#1567 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> SkuLLmaSteRr devconsole
#1568 [15:41] <VoxelHead> SkuLLmaSteRr: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1569 [15:41] <VoxelHead> SkuLLmaSteRr: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
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#1571 [15:42] <SkuLLmaSteRr> ok :)
#1572 [15:42] <SkuLLmaSteRr> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/135d532a13c7189aec99
#1573 [15:43] <SkuLLmaSteRr> here it is
#1574 [15:43] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i bilieve that is card drivers eror but i updated the drivers and nothing
#1575 [15:43] <SkuLLmaSteRr> :(
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#1577 [15:43] <SkuLLmaSteRr> can you help me ?
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#1579 [15:44] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, you will need to provide us the dxdiag report
#1580 [15:44] <Lord_Ralex> ??> SkuLLmaSteRr hopper/dxdiag
#1581 [15:44] <VoxelHead> SkuLLmaSteRr: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1582 [15:44] <SkuLLmaSteRr> ok i will :)
#1583 [15:44] <SkuLLmaSteRr> thnx tyou !
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#1585 [15:46] <SkuLLmaSteRr> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/97cd0e37d104622163eb
#1586 [15:46] <SkuLLmaSteRr> that it
#1587 [15:47] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, is this a laptop?
#1588 [15:48] <SkuLLmaSteRr> yes :) but its new and good :)
#1589 [15:48] <Lord_Ralex> oh, yeah, has to be, 640M
#1590 [15:48] <Lord_Ralex> sec
#1591 [15:48] <danii92> it is working again, i typed in the same data and now it works, without doin anything
#1592 [15:48] <SkuLLmaSteRr> its 32 bit
#1593 [15:48] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i think
#1594 [15:48] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, the dxdiag report tells us that
#1595 [15:48] <Lord_Ralex> and you have a 64bit
#1596 [15:49] <SkuLLmaSteRr> oh ok and what i can do to fix it ?
#1597 [15:49] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, install this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win8-win7-64bit-320.49-whql-driver.html
#1598 [15:50] <mattym> Does intel integrated graphics use an Nvidia chipset?
#1599 [15:51] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, no
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#1601 [15:51] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, it has a discrete intel video card and a dedicated nvidia card
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#1607 [15:53] <mattym> Lord_Ralex: Yeah i just found that, maybe its defaulting to the low power GPU and thats whats causing the issue
#1608 [15:53] <SkuLLmaSteRr> thnx you :) i bilieve that it will play w8
#1609 [15:54] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, usually that happens, but generally only when the laptop is not plugged in
#1610 [15:54] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, but still, not hard to change that
#1611 [15:54] <mattym> generally yeah
#1612 [15:54] <mattym> my laptop with dual graphics has about 5 different things that will cause it to swap
#1613 [15:56] <SkuLLmaSteRr> AGAIN CRSHESSS
#1614 [15:56] <SkuLLmaSteRr> WHY?
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#1616 [15:57] <SkuLLmaSteRr> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6fc757776068e48e24c5
#1617 [15:57] <mattym> SkuLLmaSteRr: is your laptop plugged in?
#1618 [15:57] <SkuLLmaSteRr> take the new
#1619 [15:57] <SkuLLmaSteRr> yep it is
#1620 [15:57] <Jamie123> what do i do if it says i need a java script u-pdate
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#1622 [15:57] <mattym> Jamie123: are you playing on the web browser version?
#1623 [15:58] <Jamie123> idk
#1624 [15:58] <Jamie123> i just downloaded it
#1625 [15:58] <SkuLLmaSteRr> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6fc757776068e48e24c5 The new crash report ::)
#1626 [15:58] <mattym> Jamie123: Then it shouldnt be saying anything about javascript
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#1628 [15:59] <Jamie123> it says i need a javascript 1.6 or higher so i downloaded 6 7and 8
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#1630 [15:59] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, right click the desktop, should be a "nvidia control panel"
#1631 [15:59] <Jamie123> but i still cant play
#1632 [15:59] <SkuLLmaSteRr> yep !
#1633 [15:59] <mattym> Jamie123: You mean Java
#1634 [15:59] <Lord_Ralex> Jamie123, Minecrat does not use Javascript
#1635 [15:59] <Lord_Ralex> Jamie123, you have a mac?
#1636 [15:59] <smize622> Hey guys. Not quite sure what's going on with my minecraft. I've been trying to log on (after not being on for quite some time) and it keeps saying my password is wrong. When I go to the "Forgot my password" page, it says it will send me an email, but its been about an hour and I still haven't received one. Any ideas?
#1637 [15:59] <Jamie123> ok java maybe im no good at computers
#1638 [15:59] <SkuLLmaSteRr> ok i opened it
#1639 [15:59] * stupid3700|away is now known as stupid3700
#1640 [16:00] <Jamie123> yes
#1641 [16:00] <SkuLLmaSteRr> lord i opened nvidia control panel
#1642 [16:00] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, go to "Power", is there options for "Switchable Graphics"
#1643 [16:00] <Lord_Ralex> Jamie123, PowerPCs are not supported anymore with Minecraft
#1644 [16:00] <SkuLLmaSteRr> w8 a minute cause i ahve it in greek :)
#1645 [16:00] <Jamie123> what does that mean
#1646 [16:00] <xales> smize622: Are you using AOL or Comcast as your email provider?
#1647 [16:00] <Lord_Ralex> Jamie123, your computer cannot play Minecraft
#1648 [16:01] <smize622> No. I have an account on hotmail and one on yahoo
#1649 [16:01] <Jamie123> so i just wasted money
#1650 [16:01] <xales> Jamie123: Minecraft clearly says in it's requirements that your computer will not run it.
#1651 [16:01] <SkuLLmaSteRr> where is the power ?
#1652 [16:01] <SkuLLmaSteRr> "power" ?
#1653 [16:01] <xales> Jamie123: Caveat emptor.
#1654 [16:01] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, should be in the options somewhere, would have to find an image
#1655 [16:01] <Jamie123> no it said i could download it
#1656 [16:01] <mattym> xales: Where did you get the confirmation that its a PowerPC?
#1657 [16:01] <xales> mattym: All Macs have Java, it's required. PowerPCs only have Java 1.5
#1658 [16:01] <Lord_Ralex> mattym, PPC Mac OS X 10.4
#1659 [16:02] <SkuLLmaSteRr> pfff i cant find it :(
#1660 [16:02] <Jamie123> i hav a make os x 10.4
#1661 [16:02] <xales> Jamie123: As you can clearly see: https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-minecraft-system-requirements
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#1663 [16:03] <Jamie123> yea but i did not see it there was no warning
#1664 [16:03] <xales> Jamie123: You should have looked before you bought it, then.
#1665 [16:03] <xales> Jamie123: It's not their job to magically warn you.
#1666 [16:03] <xales> Jamie123: With a computer as old as yours, MANY things will not work on it.
#1667 [16:03] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, "3D Settings", "Manage 3D Settings"
#1668 [16:03] <Jamie123> yea well they shold but it there i just payed 27 dollars
#1669 [16:03] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i dont have manage 3d settings
#1670 [16:04] <xales> Jamie123: They do say it. You just did not look for it.
#1671 [16:04] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i can 3d settings and after
#1672 [16:04] <SkuLLmaSteRr> phyx
#1673 [16:04] <xales> Jamie123: Either way, you can try to request a refund, but they do not have to give it to you.
#1674 [16:04] <xales> ??> Jamie123 refund
#1675 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Jamie123: This is Mojang's refund policy: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-mojang-refunds-policy
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#1677 [16:04] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, click the [+] next to "3D Settings"
#1678 [16:04] <SkuLLmaSteRr> physx
#1679 [16:04] <Jamie123> well how else can i get this game
#1680 [16:04] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, so you do not see this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/OOfnr.png ?
#1681 [16:04] <Lord_Ralex> Jamie123, get a new computer
#1682 [16:05] <Jamie123> i no have money for one
#1683 [16:05] <SkuLLmaSteRr> that i must do ?
#1684 [16:05] <SkuLLmaSteRr> in the image ?
#1685 [16:05] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, that screen is what we will be doing
#1686 [16:05] <xales> Jamie123: Then save money to be able to buy one.
#1687 [16:05] <SkuLLmaSteRr> i did it
#1688 [16:05] <Jamie123> i have a ps3 can i play on that
#1689 [16:06] <SkuLLmaSteRr> now try to pen minecraft ?
#1690 [16:06] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, so you set it to be the "High Performance NVIDIA processor"?
#1691 [16:06] <SkuLLmaSteRr> yep
#1692 [16:06] <Lord_Ralex> SkuLLmaSteRr, restart your computer now and then try Minecraft
#1693 [16:06] <SkuLLmaSteRr> ok :)
#1694 [16:06] <mattym> Jamie123: no
#1695 [16:07] <Jamie123> wat other systems can i play on then
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#1697 [16:07] <xales> Jamie123: The full version of Minecraft does not run on anything else.
#1698 [16:07] <mattym> PC, or a newer Mac
#1699 [16:07] <Jamie123> i only want to play online mincraft
#1700 [16:07] <xales> Jamie123: Then you'll need to buy a computer that isn't ancient.
#1701 [16:08] <Jamie123> ITS NOT ANCIENT ITS 10 years old
#1702 [16:08] <Lord_Ralex> that is old
#1703 [16:08] <Jamie123> srry caps lock
#1704 [16:08] <Lord_Ralex> in the computer world, that is very, very old
#1705 [16:08] <mattym> 3 years is old for a computer these days
#1706 [16:09] <mattym> even shorter for laptops
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#1711 [16:10] <smize622> Hey guys. Not quite sure what's going on with my minecraft. I've been trying to log on (after not being on for quite some time) and it keeps saying my password is wrong. When I go to the "Forgot my password" page, it says it will send me an email, but its been about an hour and I still haven't received one. Any ideas? Its either a hotmail or yahoo email address and its not showing up in either
#1712 [16:10] <xales> smize622: Did you do the "forgot password" on mojang.com or minecraft.net ?
#1713 [16:10] <smize622> I did both. No emails from either
#1714 [16:11] <xales> smize622: The mailserver has been having some trouble lately, unfortunately, and it does sometimes take quite a while
#1715 [16:11] <smize622> Alrighty. I can wait a while longer. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me.
#1716 [16:12] <smize622> Thanks!
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#1718 [16:13] <Jamie123> well then can i download the game to another computer
#1719 [16:13] <Jamie123> with out paying again
#1720 [16:13] <xales> Jamie123: Yes, you can.
#1721 [16:13] <Jamie123> without payin right
#1722 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1723 [16:14] <Jamie123> how
#1724 [16:14] <Jamie123> go through the steps again
#1725 [16:14] <xales> You go to minecraft.net and click "download"
#1726 [16:14] <xales> Then you run the download and log in to your account
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#1728 [16:14] <Jamie123> ok thankyou you have been alot of help
#1729 [16:14] <SkuLLmaSteRr> I LOVE YOU
#1730 [16:14] <SkuLLmaSteRr> THNCX YOU LORD :)
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#1737 [16:17] <CrazedMudkip> I need help with a Java Runtime Error that occurs when I try to play the game from the launcher
#1738 [16:17] <Jamie123> one more question
#1739 [16:17] <Jamie123> can i do it on a acer
#1740 [16:17] <Jamie123> its a laptop
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#1744 [16:19] <Jamie123> can i play mindcraft on a acer
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#1746 [16:20] <Faceless> Hey, I know you don't support snapshot versions, just had a quick question though:- anyone found that mobs "lose" their stack after reloading a save?
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#1748 [16:21] <Bugboy1028> what you meant, Faceless?
#1749 [16:21] <mattym> yeah what do you mean by stack?
#1750 [16:21] <Faceless> For example I ran a /summon command that stacked a horse on a squid on a minecart.
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#1752 [16:21] <Faceless> Ran just fine an worked.
#1753 [16:21] <Faceless> After reloading, only the horse was left.
#1754 [16:21] <Faceless> Everything else disappeared.
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#1756 [16:22] <Bugboy1028> Faceless, make video out of it
#1757 [16:22] <mattym> yeah i dont think its meant to do that anyway
#1758 [16:22] <mattym> probably the game just resolving for a floating entity
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#1760 [16:22] <CrazedMudkip> I got an error report which says "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment", anyone know any fixes?
#1761 [16:23] <Extreme> ??> CrazedMudkip devconsole
#1762 [16:23] <VoxelHead> CrazedMudkip: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1763 [16:23] <VoxelHead> CrazedMudkip: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1764 [16:24] <CrazedMudkip> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f054bf2141bf7adb7c3d
#1765 [16:25] <Extreme> ??> CrazedMudkip gpu/amd
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#1767 [16:25] <VoxelHead> CrazedMudkip: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#1769 [16:25] <Extreme> CrazedMudkip, also update Java after that
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#1771 [16:26] <mineibz> hi, i have a problem with my computer and minecraf, i have Directx report text
#1772 [16:26] <bbg1223> i have a couple of questions
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#1774 [16:26] <Extreme> mineibz, please give us the link
#1775 [16:26] <Extreme> bbg1223, which are?
#1776 [16:27] <CrazedMudkip> I tried using that link, however when I downloaded it, it just told me it "We are unable to find your product your OS"
#1777 [16:27] <mineibz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7cdf25bbc2b87e035d7c
#1778 [16:27] <Faceless> VoxelHead wouldn't pastebin be easier?
#1779 [16:27] <bbg1223> do i need to download minecfart or play online?
#1780 [16:27] <Extreme> ??> CrazedMudkip hopper/dxdiag
#1781 [16:27] <VoxelHead> CrazedMudkip: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
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#1783 [16:28] <Extreme> mineibz, one moment
#1784 [16:28] <mineibz> Extreme,thanks
#1785 [16:28] <Extreme> bbg1223, you need to download minecraft
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#1787 [16:28] <bbg1223> its for my daughter and im having trouble as i just purchased the full version
#1788 [16:28] <Extreme> bbg1223, http://minecraft.net/download
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#1790 [16:29] <Extreme> mineibz, your graphics card is not compatible with Minecraft
#1791 [16:29] <bbg1223> how can you tell
#1792 [16:29] <CrazedMudkip> I copied my DxDiag information onto Gist: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/83ca875de1799e3b1b60
#1793 [16:30] <Extreme> ??> bbg1223 mc.net/paid
#1794 [16:30] <VoxelHead> bbg1223: There is a very simple way to see whether Mojang believes your account is paid for or not. Log in at https://account.mojang.com/me and look for a 'My Games' heading. If you don't see Minecraft listed there, nor in My Gift Codes, then Mojang has not received your monies. See http://i.imgur.com/ySNIi0V.png for an exemplary picture.
#1795 [16:30] <mineibz> Extreme, the message say this,i have now windows 8, but with windows 7 i play minecraft with the same pc and the same graphic card
#1796 [16:30] <Extreme> ??> CrazedMudkip c660
#1797 [16:30] <VoxelHead> CrazedMudkip: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
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#1799 [16:31] <Extreme> mineibz, an SiS card should not even be running windows 8
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#1807 [16:33] <mattym> Whats the factoid/bot script syntax again, and what is the one with the link for all the aliases?
#1808 [16:33] <Woogie1213> Neehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/571ce929e7840e268a8a
#1809 [16:34] <Extreme> ??>> mattym bot/help
#1810 [16:34] <mineibz> extreme tha nks :)
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#1812 [16:34] <boymommy> I keep getting the error that says my video card is outdated but I followed the troubleshooting and I am all updated. Can anyone help me figure out why I keep crashing and getting that error when I have the latest updates?
#1813 [16:34] <Extreme> Woogie1213, one moment
#1814 [16:34] <Woogie1213> TY
#1815 [16:34] <Extreme> ??> Woogie1213 gpu/amd/win6.2
#1816 [16:34] <VoxelHead> Woogie1213: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.4_legacy_beta_vista_win7_win8.exe as of 25 Aug 2013
#1817 [16:34] <Extreme> Woogie1213, download and install ^
#1818 [16:34] <Extreme> ??> boymommy hopper/dxdiag
#1819 [16:35] <VoxelHead> boymommy: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1820 [16:35] <mattym> ??< index
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#1822 [16:35] <boymommy> TY. I already did that and have the Gist with my dxdiag
#1823 [16:36] <Extreme> boymommy, give us the link
#1824 [16:36] <Extreme> Faceless, VoxelHead is a bot
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#1828 [16:36] <boymommy> https://gist.github.com/boymommyof3/82dfc81ea98148408e1e
#1829 [16:37] <Extreme> boymommy, you did not post the whole thing
#1830 [16:37] <Extreme> ??> boymommy win/edit
#1831 [16:37] <VoxelHead> boymommy: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
#1832 [16:37] <tossed13> I am having great difficulties logging in to my account. My son and I both own minecraft and switch back and forth between the computers we play on sometimes he uses mine sometimes I use his but some tiomes like now when we switch I can not get logged back in I change the PW and try it again the email comes I change the PW and then all i can get is the stinking DEMO .????
#1833 [16:37] <Extreme> tossed13, you are logging into the wrong account
#1834 [16:38] <boymommy> This is the entire link: https://gist.github.com/boymommyof3/82dfc81ea98148408e1e
#1835 [16:38] <tossed13> Extreme If I enter the email address and PW how can I be logging into the wrong acct?
#1836 [16:38] <mattym> tossed13: Are you logging in on the webpage or through the launcher
#1837 [16:38] <tossed13> Minecraft.exe
#1838 [16:39] <Extreme> tossed13, you did not post the entire DxDiag on gist
#1839 [16:39] <mattym> Extreme: you meant to say that to boymommy
#1840 [16:39] <Extreme> woops
#1841 [16:39] <Extreme> boymommy, you did not post the entire DxDiag on gist
#1842 [16:39] <Extreme> tossed13, disreguard what I just said
#1843 [16:40] <boymommy> Then I'm not understanding how to get it. I am copying the entire link in the browser bar, and also copied from the "link to this gist" box. Not sure what else I'm supposed to do?
#1844 [16:40] <tossed13> No worries, lets me know you are human and not robot.
#1845 [16:41] <mattym> tossed13: Can you currently log in with that account on any of the computers?
#1846 [16:42] <Extreme> boymommy, you need to redo what the page says, and put your entire DxDiag on gist, you only gave a small portion of it
#1847 [16:42] <boymommy> okay, trying to get a new dxdiag, give me a minute
#1848 [16:42] <tossed13> havnt' tried here today on note book just his PC My notebook worked with mine log in yesterday and his today but have not tried mine on mine today.
#1849 [16:42] <CrazedMudkip> Hey thanks for the help, much appreciated!
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#1852 [16:43] <mattym> tossed13: Do you know if you are using the latest launcher?
#1853 [16:44] <tossed13> yes just downloaded it again before I came here.
#1854 [16:44] <tossed13> does it keep some kind of cache?
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#1856 [16:44] <awesomecookies18> Hi. I have been having a problem with my minecraft skin. Sometimes when I got to a server, I look like some knight thing, and sometimes I look like my regular skin. Plz help. This has been happening since I've had minecraft
#1857 [16:45] <boymommy> Here's the new one, I see what I did wrong, sorry! https://gist.github.com/boymommyof3/840ba823879ab9f327ae
#1858 [16:45] <mattym> tossed13: Yeah, kinda but this error was more common on the old launcher
#1859 [16:45] <tossed13> uninstall /redownload and reinstall?
#1860 [16:45] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, that could be allot of things
#1861 [16:46] <Extreme> ??> boymommy gpu/amd/win6.2
#1862 [16:46] <VoxelHead> boymommy: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.4_legacy_beta_vista_win7_win8.exe as of 25 Aug 2013
#1863 [16:46] <Extreme> boymommy, download and install ^
#1864 [16:46] <awesomecookies18> i know. But I've tried everything to change it
#1865 [16:46] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, what is your username?
#1866 [16:46] <mattym> tossed13: yeah i would try that, just copy/backup your world saves
#1867 [16:46] <awesomecookies18> awesomecookies18
#1868 [16:46] <tossed13> Thanks, Hope I don't have to bother you again.
#1869 [16:46] <boymommy> Okay, trying it now.
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#1872 [16:48] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, you have a skin set
#1873 [16:49] <awesomecookies18> I know. Thats what I don't get. It's like when it go through the servers, It doesn't display it correctly at some points
#1874 [16:49] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, it could be the server to blame, or in generall a bad connection to the servers
#1875 [16:49] <Extreme> ??> awesomecookies18 win/hosts
#1876 [16:49] <VoxelHead> awesomecookies18: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1877 [16:49] <VoxelHead> awesomecookies18: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1878 [16:49] <mattym> awesomecookies18: Sometimes servers can override your texture
#1879 [16:50] <awesomecookies18> ok I'm trying that
#1880 [16:50] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, is it only your skin messed up?
#1881 [16:50] <awesomecookies18> yep
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#1883 [16:50] <awesomecookies18> and sometimes it is
#1884 [16:50] <awesomecookies18> not all the time
#1885 [16:50] <awesomecookies18> its really weird
#1886 [16:50] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, then forget that
#1887 [16:50] <Extreme> awesomecookies18, probably the server to blame
#1888 [16:51] <awesomecookies18> alright
#1889 [16:51] <mattym> someone needs to remind whoever maintains the VoxelBot to update that factoid and swap pastebin for gist
#1890 [16:51] <awesomecookies18> well, thanks anyways
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#1892 [16:52] <mattym> awesomecookies18: For whatever reason, sometimes my skin dissapears as well, its just an anomoly in the code, or the server messing up
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#1894 [16:53] <awesomecookies18> its been on muiltple servers though, so idk
#1895 [16:53] <BlackRabbit1999> i need help with multiplayer
#1896 [16:54] <mattym> awesomecookies18: Yeah same for me, its just an oddity
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#1898 [16:54] <BlackRabbit1999> it says searching for games on your local net work wat does that mean
#1899 [16:54] <awesomecookies18> its weird since it doesnt change to steve, it changes to the knight, thor looking thing
#1900 [16:55] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, have you added any servers?
#1901 [16:55] <mattym> BlackRabbit1999: That means its looking for LAN games, it will always do that, if you want to join other servers you have to manually add them
#1902 [16:55] <BlackRabbit1999> i want to i just dont know any
#1903 [16:55] <mattym> awesomecookies18: Do you use a texturepack?
#1904 [16:55] <Extreme> ??> BlackRabbit1999 smp/severs
#1905 [16:55] <bossman> i can not load my minecraft game. i keep getting a exit code- 8053006369 and that 'game ended with bad state'
#1906 [16:55] <Extreme> ??> BlackRabbit1999 smp/servers
#1907 [16:56] <VoxelHead> BlackRabbit1999: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1908 [16:56] <awesomecookies18> nope
#1909 [16:56] <VoxelHead> BlackRabbit1999: The MC forums' list can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try #smp, although it is not too active anymore.
#1910 [16:56] <Extreme> ??> bossman devconsole
#1911 [16:56] <VoxelHead> bossman: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1912 [16:56] <VoxelHead> bossman: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1913 [16:56] <awesomecookies18> its in vanilla
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#1915 [16:56] <mattym> awesomecookies18: Odd, if a texturepack changed the default skin, that would explain it. Must just be something to do with the server you were on
#1916 [16:56] <awesomecookies18> with no texture packs
#1917 [16:56] <awesomecookies18> maybe
#1918 [16:56] <BlackRabbit1999> it said could not connect smp/server unknown
#1919 [16:56] <bossman> GL error
#1920 [16:57] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, listen to VoxelHead
#1921 [16:57] <bossman> 1280: invalid enum
#1922 [16:57] <Extreme> ??> bossman devconsole
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#1924 [16:57] <VoxelHead> bossman: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1925 [16:57] <BlackRabbit1999> how do i do what he said
#1926 [16:57] <VoxelHead> bossman: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1927 [16:57] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, sigh
#1928 [16:57] <awesomecookies18> oh, voxelhead, if this helps, here: http://pastebin.com/ZKU9jLsZ
#1929 [16:58] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, 4 There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1930 [16:58] <BlackRabbit1999> im confused im not my sister she can make a computer do anyhting
#1931 [16:58] <BlackRabbit1999> wat does that mean
#1932 [16:58] <mattym> awesomecookies18: That is a perfectly normal host file, its probably just the server messing with the skins
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#1934 [16:58] <awesomecookies18> ok
#1935 [16:59] <mattym> BlackRabbit1999: It means its time to ask your sister for help
#1936 [17:00] <awesomecookies18> thanks anyways
#1937 [17:00] <BlackRabbit1999> im playing on a desktop version does that help
#1938 [17:00] <BlackRabbit1999> can you just tell me a sever
#1939 [17:00] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, if you can't read I'm afraid I can't help.
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#1941 [17:01] <BlackRabbit1999> i can read im just slow and confused
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#1943 [17:01] <tossed13> I'm Back.... Ok I can log in to my son's account on both machines but can not log in to mine on the PC or the notebook.
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#1945 [17:01] <GFLOffkey> How do i redownload minecraft
#1946 [17:01] <juli> hi! my problem is this Pixel Format Not Accelerated This error message is caused by outdated video card drivers. These drivers generally lack the ability to properly display OpenGL content, which is what Minecraft utilises. To fix this, you may need to update your your graphics drivers. In order to update your drivers, first you need to find what brand manufactured your card. To do so, follow these steps; if you're having trouble, see this page!
#1947 [17:01] <Extreme> GFLOffkey, redownload?
#1948 [17:01] <Extreme> ??> juli hopper/dxdiag
#1949 [17:01] <VoxelHead> juli: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#1950 [17:01] <Extreme> GFLOffkey, you mean reinstall?
#1951 [17:01] <GFLOffkey> ya reformatted and download doesnt come up
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#1953 [17:02] <mattym> GFLOffkey: minecraft.net/download
#1954 [17:02] <GFLOffkey> k
#1955 [17:02] <Extreme> BlackRabbit1999, 4 There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/- http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1956 [17:02] <tossed13> I removed the game and folder from roaming then downloaded again and reinstalled
#1957 [17:02] <tridentXfantom> Hello guys. My problem is this exactly : https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-26459
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#1959 [17:02] <juli> yes and now ??? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/57f7699d86a7e606b5c4
#1960 [17:03] <mattym> tossed13: Did it help?
#1961 [17:03] <Hgraffo> Can i pay for something on a server and then them change it for somethingis it alod
#1962 [17:03] <Extreme> juli, your graphics card is not compatible with windows 8
#1963 [17:03] <Extreme> Hgraffo, what?
#1964 [17:03] <BlackRabbit1999> how do i make my own server
#1965 [17:03] <Extreme> ??> BlackRabbit1999 smp/serversetup
#1966 [17:03] <VoxelHead> BlackRabbit1999: Lots of information about setting up a server can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1967 [17:04] <mattym> tridentXfantom: That is usually just a problem between you and the server
#1968 [17:04] <bossman> it won't let me copy the text in my development console
#1969 [17:04] <BlackRabbit1999> where do i put that in to
#1970 [17:04] <juli> ok and that I can do?
#1971 [17:04] <Hgraffo> on a minecraft server are the owners aloud to sell me something and change it for something else
#1972 [17:04] <Extreme> juli, you willl have to downgrade or do a workaround
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#1974 [17:04] <GFLOffkey> All that comes up is show all platforms i clik on it and it just stays the same
#1975 [17:04] <tridentXfantom> Mattym, I've done various attempts to resolve the problem. Fresh Minecraft. New java. all that stuff. Didn't fix it
#1976 [17:04] <mattym> GFLOffkey: You on Windows?
#1977 [17:05] <GFLOffkey> vista
#1978 [17:05] <mattym> GFLOffkey: Then just select Minecraft.exe
#1979 [17:05] <mattym> tridentXfantom: Is it just one server that does this, or all
#1980 [17:05] <GFLOffkey> doesnt show minecraft.exe
#1981 [17:06] <GFLOffkey> just shows server and show all platforms
#1982 [17:06] <tridentXfantom> Only one atm. hub.worldofkeralis.com. Should I quickly try another server to check it the one works?
#1983 [17:06] <Hgraffo> Can you help me i need info on if servers are aloud to sell me something at $18 and change it for a $15 thing plz answer
#1984 [17:06] <Extreme> juli, see: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/intel-workaround/ with the ZIP file: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22163
#1985 [17:06] <juli> and as I do?
#1986 [17:06] <Lord_Ralex> Hgraffo, they can do it, it is their server
#1987 [17:06] <mattym> tridentXfantom: Yes, the other one is probably to far from you or two slow of a connection
#1988 [17:06] <bossman> i can not load my minecraft game. i keep getting a exit code- 8053006369 and that 'game ended with bad state'. it won't let me copy the text in my development console
#1989 [17:06] <Extreme> ??> bossman devconsole
#1990 [17:06] <VoxelHead> bossman: We need to see what is in your Development Console, which can be found on the second tab of the launcher.
#1991 [17:06] <VoxelHead> bossman: First, copy all of the text. Then, go to https://gist.github.com/ and paste it. Click Create Secret Gist. Then share with us the link that it takes you to.
#1992 [17:06] <juli> thanks
#1993 [17:07] <Extreme> ??> bossman win/edit
#1994 [17:07] <mattym> GFLOffkey: http://minecraft.net/download does not say Download for Windows on it
#1995 [17:07] <VoxelHead> bossman: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
#1996 [17:07] <Hgraffo> but they are making me pay for something and then giving me something that costs less and less items
#1997 [17:07] <tridentXfantom> Mattym: I've been able to connect to the server fine before.
#1998 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Hgraffo - Then don't use their server, Demand a refund
#1999 [17:07] <Extreme> tridentXfantom, what antivirus / firewall are you using?
#2000 [17:07] <mattym> tridentXfantom: Things change, they could be having issues that prevent you from entering
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#2002 [17:07] <Hgraffo> ok is there away to get permission to make them give a refund
#2003 [17:07] <mattym> anyway i have to step out
#2004 [17:08] <GFLOffkey> nope hows server.exe thats it
#2005 [17:08] <Extreme> ??> GFLOffkey win/client
#2006 [17:08] <VoxelHead> GFLOffkey: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2007 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Hgraffo - You'll need to deal with them directly. Mojang has no part in third-party transactions
#2008 [17:08] <Extreme> ??> GFLOffkey client
#2009 [17:08] <VoxelHead> GFLOffkey: OS-Independent client:
#2010 [17:08] <VoxelHead> GFLOffkey: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar
#2011 [17:08] <Hgraffo> ok
#2012 [17:08] <mattym> that works
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#2014 [17:08] <GFLOffkey> thx that helped
#2015 [17:08] <tridentXfantom> Extreame: I have windows Firewall on atm, Ill quickly dissable that and try again
#2016 [17:10] <GFLOffkey> thx guys
#2017 [17:10] <boymommy> thank you so much, it worked!
#2018 [17:10] <Extreme> bossman, we can't help you if you can't give us a log
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#2022 [17:10] <bossman> it's not allowing me to create secret gist
#2023 [17:11] <Hgraffo> so if he doesnt refund there is no wat that mojang can help
#2024 [17:11] <tridentXfantom> Extreme: I've also had the same problem with a different server
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#2026 [17:11] <Extreme> tridentXfantom, disable your firewalls and antiviruses
#2027 [17:11] <Extreme> ??> bossman gist/image
#2028 [17:11] <VoxelHead> bossman: Ah, so you need pictoral step-by-step directions? Give http://imgur.com/a/xtTOq a look, then.
#2029 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Hgraffo - The deal you made is between yourself and the admin(s) of the owner. Mojang has no part in that transaction. File a dispute with your bank.
#2030 [17:13] <joel0803> is it scamming if someone donates to the server and i give him the rank but he abuses and then take it away and give him what he paid for
#2031 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> er, admin(s) of the server
#2032 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> It's your server. You can do whatever you wish with it
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#2035 [17:15] <joel0803> ok so he payed for co=owner but he abused it so i took it away and gave him a normal rank
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#2037 [17:17] <joel0803> can i pay him
#2038 [17:17] <joel0803> nvm
#2039 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> That's between you and him
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#2041 [17:17] <joel0803> can i ban himfrom the server just not take his rank away
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#2043 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> It's your server. You can do whatever you want with it.
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#2045 [17:18] <tridentXfantom_> Extreme: I've disabled The firewall and I got the same error
#2046 [17:18] <hdjfyhdb> a
#2047 [17:18] <hdjfyhdb> hola
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#2049 [17:19] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_, what server are you trying to connect to?
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#2051 [17:19] <hdjfyhdb> adlas español
#2052 [17:19] <tridentXfantom_> Extreme: hub.worldofkeralis.com
#2053 [17:19] <Extreme> ??> hdjfyhdb lang/es
#2054 [17:19] <VoxelHead> hdjfyhdb: Sólo hablamos Inglés aquí. Sin embargo, puede, si lo desea, trate de usar una máquina traductora, como http://translate.google.com/
#2055 [17:20] <Extreme> !check hub.worldofkeralis.com
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#2057 [17:20] <hdjfyhdb> damosaen trar
#2058 [17:20] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_, try on another computer at your network
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#2060 [17:20] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_, and see if you can reproduce it there
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#2062 [17:21] <tridentXfantom_> Ok, Ill have to do that tommorow. If that fails, anything else I could try?
#2063 [17:21] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_, if you can, then your other computer has some sort of firewall
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#2066 [17:22] <tridentXfantom_> Extreme: Ok, I've read in some places that its something to do with java, could this be the case?
#2067 [17:22] <lmint> Minecraft will not open on linuxmint!
#2068 [17:24] <Extreme> lmint: try opening it command line
#2069 [17:24] <lmint> How?
#2070 [17:24] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_: No, it's just that it can't connect to the host
#2071 [17:24] <Extreme> lmint: with java -jar /path/to/jar
#2072 [17:25] <tridentXfantom_> Extreme: Ok. Thanks for your help. Greatly Appreciated. :)
#2073 [17:25] <Extreme> tridentXfantom_: No problem
#2074 [17:26] <lmint> That works but do I have to do that everytime?
#2075 [17:26] <Extreme> lmint: well, are you opening the launcher with java?
#2076 [17:27] <lmint> How? It trys to open it as an archive
#2077 [17:27] <Extreme> which is the problem
#2078 [17:27] <lmint> Well how can I stop it?
#2079 [17:27] <Extreme> set it to open with Java
#2080 [17:28] <lmint> Java web start says theres an error.
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#2083 [17:28] <lmint> Can i make a exuble termial command?
#2084 [17:30] <Extreme> you shouldn't have to, set it to open with Java, that depends on your distro
#2085 [17:30] <tommy> how do i reinstall? color is corrupted on the game, gameplay not working.
#2086 [17:30] <lmint> Linux mint 12 lxde
#2087 [17:30] <Extreme> ??> tommy win/reinst
#2088 [17:30] <VoxelHead> tommy: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2089 [17:30] <VoxelHead> tommy: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2091 [17:31] <lmint> Anyone?
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#2094 [17:34] <lmint> Hello?
#2095 [17:38] <tommy> thanks, seems to be working now.
#2096 [17:38] <lmint> Hello?
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#2098 [17:38] <lmint> Anyone:(
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#2102 [17:45] <lmint> Hello?
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#2104 [17:49] <theitalianstallion> So, I'm having two issues. One is that the lighting is screwed up, things that are dark in the overworld will be black until interacted with, in which case they revert to the proper lighting.
#2105 [17:50] <lmint> Hello?
#2106 [17:50] <theitalianstallion> The second issue is with far render distance, I have 64bit java installed, so it should work fine, but it doesn't. It loads really slowly and sections of overworld will be invisible til I walk over them. ALso I am able to see through the ground while it's trying to load so there's that.
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#2108 [17:50] <lmint> I need help to :(
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#2110 [17:51] <NINJAFISH644> S
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#2112 [17:51] <theitalianstallion> what do you need help with?
#2113 [17:52] <lmint> Running minecraft in linux mint
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#2116 [17:52] <theitalianstallion> sorry but I cannot help with that
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#2118 [17:55] <littlebear> it wont let the lan connect to my other computer, then crashes
#2119 [17:56] <littlebear> it shows the lan and everything and when i try to connect it says unable to connect then crash screen comes up...idk
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#2127 [18:16] <X1MoneyMaker1X> Something happened, in the last hour and all of my worlds that i have worked 5-6 days on got deleted, I was trying to install the aether mod.
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#2129 [18:17] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Then in your attempts to install the mod, you probably deleted them.
#2130 [18:17] <X1MoneyMaker1X> Do you know how to get them back, please i have worked really hard building my stuff
#2131 [18:18] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: If they are in your Recycle Bin or equivalent thing, then you can probably restore them.
#2132 [18:18] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: If not, they are basically gone.
#2133 [18:19] <X1MoneyMaker1X> Can you go under my account name and do something where you give them back? Or like make it to where i have my lst minecraft version?
#2134 [18:19] <xales> Worlds are just files on your computer.
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#2137 [18:19] <xales> They have nothing to do with your account.
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#2139 [18:19] <xales> If you completely erase a file on your computer, you cannot recover it (generally).
#2140 [18:20] <X1MoneyMaker1X> "generally"
#2141 [18:20] <X1MoneyMaker1X> ???
#2142 [18:20] <savana767> hi, i have tried to load minecraft about 6 times
#2143 [18:20] <savana767> is there a number i can call to see if they can walk me through loading for my daughter
#2144 [18:20] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: If you have knowledge of data recovery techniques, it may be possible to restore part of it, but if you're here asking about it, then you don't.
#2145 [18:21] <xales> savana767: There's no phone support. What is the problem you're having running Minecraft?
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#2147 [18:21] <savana767> I go through all the steps trying to load on my pc, windows 8, installed java, whole 9 yards to no avail
#2148 [18:21] * mattym|away is now known as mattym
#2149 [18:21] <Solwren> Has anyone successfully stopped the spawning of the 2nd javaw.exe which totally cripples Minecraft since 1.6.2?
#2150 [18:21] <savana767> i am thinking this is a little too complex for me
#2151 [18:21] <xales> Solwren: In what way does it "cripple" Minecraft?
#2152 [18:22] <xales> savana767: What happens when you try to run Minecraft?
#2153 [18:22] <lj> my minecraft wont load
#2154 [18:22] <xales> lj: And why won't it?
#2155 [18:22] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales all of the previos stuff i have installed in minecraft is still in my recycle bin but not minecraft
#2156 [18:22] <Solwren> It spawns a 2nd javaw.exe which consumes 25%+ of the CPU and 700+ MB of ram
#2157 [18:22] <savana767> normally you just buy something and it loads
#2158 [18:22] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Then right-click on it and click "restore"
#2159 [18:22] <lj> i tried to download java 64 bit and i have windows vista and ever since i downloaded it it never works
#2160 [18:22] <savana767> this has been crazy
#2161 [18:23] <xales> lj: Go to Control Panel and uninstall every version of Java.
#2162 [18:23] <xales> savana767: So when you double-click on the Minecraft launcher, what happens...?
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#2164 [18:23] <savana767> it says its loading and never shows up after i pay for it
#2165 [18:23] <lj> it doesnt even pop p the launcher i click run and then nothing happens
#2166 [18:23] <savana767> its like it stalls loading and never sends me an email
#2167 [18:23] <lj> pop up
#2168 [18:23] <xales> savana767: Does it say *anything* else at all, besides "loading"?
#2169 [18:24] <savana767> no
#2170 [18:24] <xales> lj: Do what I just said.
#2171 [18:24] <lj> i did
#2172 [18:24] <xales> lj: You uninstalled EVERYthing that says Java?
#2173 [18:24] <xales> Solwren: Do you have the latest version of the launcher?
#2174 [18:24] <xales> savana767: Download this file. Save it on your Desktop. https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2175 [18:25] <lj> hold on i will
#2176 [18:25] <savana767> i will
#2177 [18:25] <xales> savana767: Once it is downloaded, double-click it on your desktop.
#2178 [18:25] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales what do you mean by click "restor"?
#2179 [18:25] <Solwren> the one for 1.6.2 from the weblinks, yes. In fact even downloaded the 1.6.3 pre-release just on a prayer heh.
#2180 [18:25] <Solwren> which didn't work either
#2181 [18:25] <savana767> it looks like it gave me 3 folders to run or save
#2182 [18:25] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Right click on the files and click RESTORE
#2183 [18:26] <lj> ok i am uninstalling java
#2184 [18:26] <xales> Solwren: Change the launch options (in Edit Profile) to close the launcher after running (this is the default)
#2185 [18:26] <xales> savana767: Click Save, and save it on your Desktop.
#2186 [18:26] <Solwren> I think that's where it's at, but I'll go double check.
#2187 [18:28] <Solwren> Confirmed, that is the setting... (close after running)
#2188 [18:29] <lj> ok i unistalled everything that says java
#2189 [18:29] <xales> lj: Now, go to http://java.com/ and download and install Java.
#2190 [18:29] <xales> Solwren: If the process is using that much CPU, are you sure it's not actually the Minecraft process? :p
#2191 [18:30] <lj> ok i am dowloading it
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#2194 [18:31] <flashyfish> Hi. Trying to help my son.
#2195 [18:32] <xales> flashyfish: Hello.
#2196 [18:32] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales please everthing for my past minecraft life is gone, everything that i built and all, i clicked restore and my texture packs are back, i dont care about my mods so that is fine but i still sont have my worlds, is it possible that i could pm you the world i need back, and my account info? Then you restore it all?
#2197 [18:32] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: I already told you.
#2198 [18:32] <flashyfish> Minecraft pe. On iPad. No arrows or blocks show up on screen?
#2199 [18:32] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Worlds are just files on your computer.
#2200 [18:32] <bleush38p> the worlds were stored on your physical disk, no one here can restore it
#2201 [18:32] <Solwren> It spawns two javaw.exe's , one is Minecraft, no clue what the other is, but it almost totally haults minecraft at the downloading terrain, and when it finally finishes (the process never goes away) the gameplay is horrible, you can move or action, o
#2202 [18:33] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: They have NOTHING to do with your account. They are not saved in your account.
#2203 [18:33] <X1MoneyMaker1X> where do i find them?
#2204 [18:33] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: If you deleted them, and they are not in your Recycle Bin, then they are GONE.
#2205 [18:33] <xales> Solwren: So kill it and see what happens.
#2206 [18:33] <xales> flashyfish: Contact Apple's support.
#2207 [18:34] <flashyfish> Okay. Should I reinstall
#2208 [18:34] <X1MoneyMaker1X> my recycle bin is where all of my previosly downloaded stuff is, it wouldnt be there would it?
#2209 [18:34] <xales> flashyfish: You might try reinstalling it, yeah. But beyond that, it sounds like a problem with the device, and you'd need Apple to help with that.
#2210 [18:34] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Is there a folder called world or save there?
#2211 [18:34] <Solwren> if you kill it, Minecraft becomes only semi-functional IF it even finishes loading the world at all.
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#2213 [18:35] <X1MoneyMaker1X> i think maybe world
#2214 [18:35] <flashyfish> Thanks!
#2215 [18:35] <lj> ok i installed java
#2216 [18:35] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: If it's there, then RESTORE it.
#2217 [18:35] <xales> Solwren: Are you using the official launcher?
#2218 [18:35] <xales> lj: Now try running Minecraft.
#2219 [18:35] <lj> ok
#2220 [18:36] <Solwren> by semi-functional, I mean when you break a block, it doesn't create the block, no animals move.. 15-20 seconds later the block comes back.
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#2222 [18:36] <Solwren> Xales: yeah, or at least I hope so since it came from the link in the launcher hehe
#2223 [18:36] <xales> Solwren: Are you sure it's another process and not another thread?
#2224 [18:36] <lj> it crahes when i click play
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#2227 [18:37] <xales> lj: And what does the crash message say? If it is longer than one line, paste it on http://pastie.org/ and give us a LINK to it.
#2228 [18:37] <lj> it doesnt say anything
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#2230 [18:37] <xales> lj: Then how do you know that it crashed?
#2231 [18:38] <lj> cause it loads and then the screen goes black and then it dissapears
#2232 [18:38] <xales> Solwren: What you're describing is the internal server, which should be another thread, not another process.
#2233 [18:38] <xales> ??> lj win/reinst
#2234 [18:38] <VoxelHead> lj: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2235 [18:38] <VoxelHead> lj: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2236 [18:38] <Solwren> I guess as far as I can tell, is thatthere are two separate PIDs in the tasklist
#2237 [18:39] <savana767> when i enter payment informatoin, it gives me a code to enter on my cell, i enter it and how long does it have to load
#2238 [18:39] <X1MoneyMaker1X> ok yea there is no way to do anything that will get what i just spent all my life working on back isnt there?
#2239 [18:39] <savana767> i have entered code at leasts 3 times times and nothing happens
#2240 [18:40] <X1MoneyMaker1X> I am never playing minecraft again, is there a way i can refund?
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#2242 [18:40] <lj> so delete all folders
#2243 [18:40] <savana767> i just wanted to play, i hates windows 8, i feel that is half my issues
#2244 [18:41] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales
#2245 [18:41] <lj> except the saves
#2246 [18:41] <Solwren> savana767: is it a laptop or desktop you have that's having issues?
#2247 [18:42] <xales> savana767: Ah, you're having a problem paying for it.
#2248 [18:42] <xales> savana767: Based on what you were saying, it sounded like you had a problem actually running it.
#2249 [18:42] <xales> savana767: Try using PayPal. You don't need an account, just click "I don't have an account" and it will ask for the card info.
#2250 [18:43] <xales> lj: That is what the instructions say, yes.
#2251 [18:43] <lj> can the mod too many items caused this
#2252 [18:43] <xales> lj: Nothing caused it except you deleting the saves.
#2253 [18:43] <xales> lj: Oh, sorry.
#2254 [18:43] <xales> lj: You're someone else.
#2255 [18:43] <xales> lj: Yes, that probably is what caused it.
#2256 [18:43] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: The reason it is gone is because YOU deleted it.
#2257 [18:43] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: You can not have a refund because you do not intend to play it again, no.
#2258 [18:44] <savana767> laptop
#2259 [18:44] <xales> savana767: Did you see what I said about PayPal?
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#2261 [18:44] <savana767> i keep entering my card so go use pay pal???
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#2263 [18:44] <xales> savana767: Yes, try PayPal.
#2264 [18:44] <Solwren> Any chance there's something running trying to open it for Lan play that I don't know how to turn on/off?
#2265 [18:45] <mattym> Solwren: Its just part of the game, let it run its supposed to
#2266 [18:45] <Solwren> both java PIDs are?
#2267 [18:45] <xales> Solwren: No, it's not.
#2268 [18:45] <savana767> I have to figure out how to stop it from running first. I guess i close out and start over. surely i have sw and java downloaded now
#2269 [18:45] <xales> Solwren: It's the internal server. It's part of how Minecraft works.
#2270 [18:46] <xales> savana767: The problem is that the payment processing company other than PayPal has some problems.
#2271 [18:46] <xales> savana767: It has nothing to do with your computer.
#2272 [18:46] <xales> savana767: You just need to use PayPal.
#2273 [18:47] <Solwren> strange, never had a second process show in task manager prior to the new loader, and certainly nothing , including Minecraft eating that much memory.
#2274 [18:47] <xales> Solwren: Minecraft always has used that much memory.
#2275 [18:47] <mattym> Solwren: Its been that way since about 1.4.X or maybe even a little sooner
#2276 [18:48] <Solwren> 750MB on each of two processes?
#2277 [18:49] <xales> Well, it shouldn't be doing *that*
#2278 [18:49] <xales> Kill the other one then?
#2279 [18:49] <mattym> yeah are you running a high res texture pack or something?
#2280 [18:49] <Solwren> one actually kills Minecraft
#2281 [18:49] <xales> Solwren: Are you running *anything* that's not standard?
#2282 [18:49] <Solwren> I have nothing but vanilla, and even turned down Rendering distance
#2283 [18:50] <xales> ??> Solwren win/reinst
#2284 [18:50] <VoxelHead> Solwren: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2285 [18:50] <VoxelHead> Solwren: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2286 [18:50] <Solwren> I'm now* running 1.6.3, but this problem dates exactly to the minute I went to 1.6.2
#2287 [18:50] <mattym> Yeah one of the processes should sit around 100-200 MB, the other will get high depending on what you are doing in game
#2288 [18:51] <Solwren> I'll try that Vox,
#2289 [18:51] <Solwren> & xales
#2290 [18:51] <mattym> pay close attention to that part about deleting everything BUT the saves
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#2301 [18:58] <Solwren> Still no dice on the fix, guys have to bail now unfortunately; will try again later.
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#2304 [18:59] <Angelman2741> i need help with my minecraft its not working because of the open gl mode
#2305 [18:59] <xales> ??> Angelman2741 hopper/dxdiag
#2306 [18:59] <VoxelHead> Angelman2741: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2307 [19:00] <Angelman2741> i already did that and it led me to here
#2308 [19:00] <mattym> Post the link you have for the gist
#2309 [19:00] <Angelman2741> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 9/15/2013, 18:45:16 Machine name: IRIS-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130801-1533) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard System Model: Presario CQ56 Notebook PC BIOS: Default System BIOS
#2310 [19:01] <mattym> dont post that
#2311 [19:01] <mattym> if you followed the instructions as you said
#2312 [19:01] <mattym> you would have a link to the gist page with all that info
#2313 [19:01] <Angelman2741> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 9/15/2013, 18:45:16 Machine name: IRIS-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130801-1533) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard System Model: Presario CQ56 Notebook PC BIOS: Default System BIOS
#2314 [19:01] <xales> Angelman2741: Did you even read what was said to you?
#2315 [19:01] <xales> Angelman2741: You 0,4CAN NOT PASTE THAT HERE DIRECTLY
#2316 [19:01] <Angelman2741> oh
#2317 [19:02] <xales> Angelman2741: You must give us the LINK that the instructions tell you how to make.
#2318 [19:02] <savana767> hello
#2319 [19:02] <xales> savana767: Hello.
#2320 [19:02] <Angelman2741> wat?
#2321 [19:02] <savana767> how do i join a server
#2322 [19:02] <savana767> anyone know how
#2323 [19:02] <xales> savana767: Click Multiplayer, click Add Server or Direct Connect and put in the address of the server.
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#2325 [19:02] <savana767> do u know and adress of a server i could join
#2326 [19:03] <xales> ??> savana767 smp/servers
#2327 [19:03] <VoxelHead> savana767: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2328 [19:03] <VoxelHead> savana767: The MC forums' list can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try #smp, although it is not too active anymore.
#2329 [19:03] <savana767> what is the most popualuar server
#2330 [19:03] <mattym> thats a loaded question
#2331 [19:03] <skuter198> I cant login into servers anymore and i need help with it
#2332 [19:03] <xales> skuter198: Why can't you?
#2333 [19:03] <skuter198> i don know it says bad loggin
#2334 [19:04] <Angelman2741> https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1175661
#2335 [19:04] <Angelman2741> thats the link it sent me to
#2336 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> skuter198 - Close minecraft and relaunch it. Then try logging into a server again
#2337 [19:04] <mattym> ??> Angelman2741 hopper/dxdiag
#2338 [19:04] <VoxelHead> Angelman2741: Follow the instructions here: http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/pixel-format-not-accelerated/support/
#2339 [19:04] <savana767> how do i know what the server is called
#2340 [19:04] <mattym> Angelman2741: Follow those ^ directions exactly
#2341 [19:04] <skuter198> i did that and it didnt work i did that like 5 times
#2342 [19:04] <xales> skuter198: The name doesn't matter. It's for your reference.
#2343 [19:04] <xales> er
#2344 [19:05] <xales> savana767: The name doesn't matter. It's for your reference.
#2345 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> skuter198 - Is "skuter198" your minecraft username?
#2346 [19:05] <Angelman2741> i did
#2347 [19:05] <skuter198> no it is skuter1998
#2348 [19:05] <savana767> ok im still confused im a girl abd dont know how to play
#2349 [19:05] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales, YAY i got everything back because of bleush38p! :D!
#2350 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> skuter198 - Are you able to in successfully to the launcher? Or do you get an error message upon trying to log in?
#2351 [19:05] <xales> savana767: You should start with Single Player, then.
#2352 [19:05] <xales> savana767: See here: http://minecraft.net/game/howtoplay
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#2354 [19:06] <skuter198> no i can login to the launcher it is only when i loggin to servers and it wont let me in
#2355 [19:06] <savana767> i want to connect
#2356 [19:06] <mattym> Angelman2741: If you did follow them, then you would have given us the propper link by now
#2357 [19:06] <savana767> ill try
#2358 [19:06] <savana767> bye
#2359 [19:06] <Angelman2741> wait ill give u the dxdiag report
#2360 [19:06] <skuter198> i can give you the ip if you want it
#2361 [19:06] <xales> skuter198: Go to the launcher and click Log Out.
#2362 [19:06] <Angelman2741> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e8536a1c9124d312e239
#2363 [19:06] <skuter198> ok
#2364 [19:06] <xales> skuter198: Then log back in, and try connecting to s.nerd.nu
#2365 [19:06] <mattym> Angelman2741: There we go, i sec
#2366 [19:06] <Angelman2741> ok
#2367 [19:06] <skuter198> ok
#2368 [19:07] <savana767> hey! im in the game but now how do i play
#2369 [19:07] <xales> savana767: See here: http://minecraft.net/game/howtoplay
#2370 [19:07] <mattym> Angelman2741: I dont think your computer will support Minecraft
#2371 [19:07] <xales> mattym: It might, barely.
#2372 [19:07] <Angelman2741> then how do i get it to acually support minecraft
#2373 [19:08] <xales> Angelman2741: Look on the sticker on the bottom of your computer for the MODEL NUMBER
#2374 [19:08] <xales> Angelman2741: Tell me what it is.
#2375 [19:08] <Angelman2741> ive played efore and its never done this
#2376 [19:08] <skuter198> xales are you part of mojang
#2377 [19:09] <mattym> Angelman2741: On this computer?
#2378 [19:09] <xales> skuter198: We don't work for Mojang, but we are officially endorsed.
#2379 [19:09] <Angelman2741> yea
#2380 [19:09] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales
#2381 [19:09] <xales> Angelman2741: Look on the sticker on the bottom of your computer for the MODEL NUMBER
#2382 [19:09] <skuter198> oh
#2383 [19:09] <xales> X1MoneyMaker1X: Yes?
#2384 [19:09] <Angelman2741> i dont know what that is
#2385 [19:10] <Angelman2741> no i dont know where it is
#2386 [19:10] <xales> Angelman2741: It is a sticker.
#2387 [19:10] <skuter198> its the product key
#2388 [19:10] <xales> Angelman2741: It is on the bottom of your computer.
#2389 [19:10] <xales> skuter198: It is not the product key.
#2390 [19:10] <Angelman2741> i know but where under it
#2391 [19:10] <X1MoneyMaker1X> say thanks to bleush38p, he got all of my worlds to were they were yesterday but i can make everything that i made today, tommarrow. So tell him it worked, :D
#2392 [19:10] <Angelman2741> is it just a number
#2393 [19:10] <xales> Angelman2741: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/834/c03460656.jpg
#2394 [19:11] <mattym> Model Number, or even a service code if it has one
#2395 [19:11] <skuter198> what server did you want me to try to loggin into
#2396 [19:11] <Angelman2741> 584037-001
#2397 [19:11] <Angelman2741> i think thats it
#2398 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> skuter198 - s.nerd.nu
#2399 [19:12] <skuter198> im in
#2400 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Then everything works on your end.
#2401 [19:12] <xales> Angelman2741: That is not.
#2402 [19:12] <Angelman2741> ok ill
#2403 [19:12] <xales> Angelman2741: It starts with CQ56
#2404 [19:12] <Angelman2741> sorry*
#2405 [19:12] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales thx for getting me started too, if you hadent of told me to go to my recycle bins i wouldn't have rembered how to get my prvious version of mc :D
#2406 [19:12] <skuter198> ok so if it happenes agin just logout then log back in right
#2407 [19:13] <X1MoneyMaker1X> xales bye :D
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#2410 [19:13] <mattym> skuter198: If it happens again its probably a problem with a specific server, not your machine
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#2412 [19:13] <Angelman2741> i cant find it nothing sarts with it
#2413 [19:13] <El_burrito> How do I fix this error: Check your internet connection/proxy settings.
#2414 [19:13] <xales> El_burrito: Turn your firewall off or unblock Minecraft.
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#2416 [19:14] <Angelman2741> i cant find it nothing sarts with cq56
#2417 [19:14] <El_burrito> How do I unblock minecraft?
#2418 [19:14] <xales> El_burrito: That depends on what firewall you have. We do not provide support for firewall software. If you cannot figure it out, contact the support for the firewall or just uninstall it.
#2419 [19:15] <xales> Angelman2741: What does the sticker say IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO PRODUCT NUMBER or PRODUCT #
#2420 [19:16] <El_burrito> Is there a way for me to find my firewall? I have a mac, by the way.
#2421 [19:16] <xales> El_burrito: If you have a Mac, the only firewall you would have is one you installed yourself.
#2422 [19:17] <El_burrito> ok
#2423 [19:17] <mattym> El_burrito: Do you connect through a proxy, or have one set up for web use? Cause that could be the issue
#2424 [19:18] <xales> mattym: If they use a proxy, they probably can figure out how to make Minecraft work with it without our assistance :p
#2425 [19:18] <Angelman2741> rc9p9-grmk8-k23jb-93by4-hpq67 under that is x16-96072
#2426 [19:18] <El_burrito> Well, what exactly is a proxy? Sorry I don't know alot about computors
#2427 [19:18] <xales> Angelman2741: That is not what it said next to PRODUCT
#2428 [19:18] <El_burrito> computers*
#2429 [19:18] <xales> Angelman2741: I am not asking for the PRODUCT KEY
#2430 [19:18] <xales> Angelman2741: I am asking for the PRODUCT NUMBER
#2431 [19:18] <Angelman2741> sorry
#2432 [19:18] <xales> Angelman2741: It will be next to PRODUCT or PRODUCT # by itself.
#2433 [19:18] <Angelman2741> i cant find it
#2434 [19:19] <mattym> xales: you should know there are plenty of crappy apps/extensions that make it so the inept can use proxies and this often screws stuff up
#2435 [19:19] <xales> Angelman2741: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?tmp_renderType=findModel&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00033108&lc=en
#2436 [19:19] <xales> mattym: Minecraft would be able to connect without the proxy though
#2437 [19:20] <mattym> xales: Ive seen a few that edit the actual main internet settings, tho not sure of any like that on a Mac
#2438 [19:21] <xales> mattym: If they're able to connect to the Internet at all, then it's not that
#2439 [19:21] <mattym> Do the Macs still have that gatekeeper issue, or would he not even get this far if that was the cause?
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#2441 [19:22] <Angelman2741> i found something and it sais presario CQ56 but its on the front of the computer
#2442 [19:22] <xales> mattym: They do, but that's not this
#2443 [19:22] <xales> Angelman2741: Read what the article I linked you to says.
#2444 [19:22] <Angelman2741> ok
#2445 [19:23] <El_burrito> ok, so my minecraft can now open, but it can't connect to anything. I have 5 internet bars, any ideas?
#2446 [19:23] <mattym> El_burrito: Wireless connection?
#2447 [19:23] <El_burrito> Yes
#2448 [19:24] <El_burrito> Wi-Fi
#2449 [19:24] <mattym> Any chance your router has its own firewall?
#2450 [19:24] <xales> El_burrito: What makes you think it can't connect to anything?
#2451 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> El_burrito - What server ip are you connecting to?
#2452 [19:25] <Angelman2741> ill e right back i h
#2453 [19:25] <savana767> this is crazy
#2454 [19:25] <savana767> know im locked out
#2455 [19:26] <savana767> idk how to even get to the game
#2456 [19:26] <savana767> this is such a rip off
#2457 [19:26] <El_burrito> Well, I've typed in a few servers now and only 1 works. Is it my connection or the hosts?
#2458 [19:26] <Angelman2741> found it
#2459 [19:26] <xales> savana767: It's not a ripoff because you can't use your computer.
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#2461 [19:26] <xales> savana767: The game is probably in your Downloads folder.
#2462 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> El_burrito - It's the hosts.
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#2464 [19:26] <El_burrito> Ok, thanks for the help!
#2465 [19:26] <savana767> i know how i have had a computer since i was 2 and i have never had trouble intil this
#2466 [19:26] <El_burrito> Bye
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#2468 [19:27] <xales> savana767: Having a computer for a long time and being able to use it are mutually inclusive
#2469 [19:27] <Angelman2741> it is
#2470 [19:28] <Angelman2741> xy871ua#aba
#2471 [19:29] <xales> Angelman2741: Download and install: http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp49501-50000/sp49654.exe
#2472 [19:29] <Angelman2741> ok
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#2475 [19:30] <Daihak> Hey guys I havent played this game in years and trying to host the standard minecraft supplied server it boots up but how do I attach it to a new world?
#2476 [19:31] <xales> Daihak: It automatically creates a world.
#2477 [19:31] <Daihak> how do I find that world though??
#2478 [19:31] <xales> Daihak: It's in the "world" directory in the server's directory.
#2479 [19:32] <mattym> it may be called something else if you happened to change the name in the properties file
#2480 [19:32] <Angelman2741> thank u for your help if i ever have trouble i know this is the right place to go to :)
#2481 [19:32] <Daihak> Nope all I did was dl the server file and it auto opened and started a server called world but I have no clue where to find that world
#2482 [19:32] <mattym> Angelman2741: For your computer i would recommend the lowest possible settings for the game
#2483 [19:33] <Angelman2741> yes thats what i do
#2484 [19:33] <mattym> Daihak: Did you download the EXE version or the jar file?
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#2486 [19:34] <Daihak> I just used the link on the minecraft page where you can dl the latest 1.6.2 server it simply auto runs and opens the server
#2487 [19:34] <xales> Daihak: What web browser are you using?
#2488 [19:35] <Daihak> Google Chrome
#2489 [19:35] <xales> Daihak: It only auto-opens if you set it to auto-open.
#2490 [19:35] <xales> Daihak: Go to your Downloads folder, and copy the exe file to a NEW FOLDER somewhere on your computer.
#2491 [19:35] <xales> Daihak: Then run it from that folder.
#2492 [19:36] <mattym> yeah the server launcher would have just dropped all the files and folders wherever it itself was
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#2494 [19:36] <xales> mattym: It actually doesn't care where it is, it just cares about the CWD
#2495 [19:37] <mattym> im saying that it would have put the world and all the other stuff wherever the downloaded file was
#2496 [19:37] <xales> Not necessarily, actually
#2497 [19:37] <xales> Chrome uses something odd as the CWD for processes it launches
#2498 [19:39] <Daihak> ya it's not allowing me to save it it simply auto runs working on it
#2499 [19:40] <mattym> Google Chrome should have an option to turn that off somewhere
#2500 [19:40] <xales> (and why would you turn it on in the first place)
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#2502 [19:41] <Daihak> as far as I know its always done it anytime i click a link it auto runs
#2503 [19:41] <mattym> can you right click it and tell it to "Save as"
#2504 [19:41] <mattym> or whatever the option in chrome is
#2505 [19:42] <Daihak> nope doesent give option
#2506 [19:42] <Daihak> it gives option to save link
#2507 [19:42] <mattym> try that
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#2510 [19:44] <Daihak> yea that did it
#2511 [19:44] <mattym> yeah not take that file
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#2513 [19:44] <mattym> put it in its own folder and run it
#2514 [19:44] <Matt_> Hi the right click feature is not working so I can mine or place blocks
#2515 [19:44] <mattym> the world folder will end up in that folder
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#2517 [19:44] <Daihak> I auto ran it after saving link to new folder and it gave me the files
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#2520 [19:45] <mattym> Matt_: Does your right click button normally work?
#2521 [19:45] <Matt_> yes
#2522 [19:45] <mattym> Now you know its normally left click to break/destroy
#2523 [19:46] <Matt_> ok so the download seems not to work either
#2524 [19:46] <crazyBurnett> I'm trying to create a Minecraft server on a Mac OSX, but when I open my Terminal it says Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar logout
#2525 [19:46] <Daihak> ok so now I've got the files how do I get my character in to the server it doesent show on any list in the minecraft launcher
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#2528 [19:46] <Angelman2741> im back again
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#2530 [19:46] <mattym> Daihak: You need to add your server to the server list
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#2532 [19:47] <Matt_> both left and right are not working
#2533 [19:47] <Angelman2741> now the minecraft isnt letting me log in because of something
#2534 [19:47] <Matt_> ok how do I do that
#2535 [19:47] <gio4422> whenever a press plat to start i crashes
#2536 [19:47] <xales> Angelman2741: And why won't it let you?
#2537 [19:47] <mattym> Daihak: Even tho you are running it its not considered a LAN server, you can add your own machine as 127.0.0.1
#2538 [19:47] <xales> gio4422: And is there an error message?
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#2541 [19:47] <Angelman2741> it starts up and the it closes down bringing me to the sign in page
#2542 [19:48] <mattym> Matt_: Any chance your on an Adventure mode game?
#2543 [19:48] <gio4422> ca you fix it
#2544 [19:48] <Matt_> ok sorry not good with adding server please Umm adventures not sure
#2545 [19:49] <mattym> Matt_: Those server instructions were not for you
#2546 [19:49] <Matt_> LOL ok
#2547 [19:49] <mattym> Matt_: Do your mouse button clicks work for the menu options?
#2548 [19:49] <Daihak> alright im in one last question what do others need to know to join it
#2549 [19:49] <gio4422> whenever i log in then ipress play it crashes
#2550 [19:49] <Matt_> Yes
#2551 [19:49] <xales> Angelman2741: So sign in?
#2552 [19:49] <Angelman2741> i did
#2553 [19:49] <mattym> Daihak: You need to give them your external IP address and make sure you have set up Port Forwarding
#2554 [19:50] <mattym> Matt_: Go into options and then controls
#2555 [19:50] <Daihak> 22565?
#2556 [19:50] <mattym> Matt_: Make sure that the left and right mouse are set to the propper ingame settings
#2557 [19:50] <Matt_> there
#2558 [19:50] <mattym> Daihak: Yes
#2559 [19:50] <mattym> Daihak: Sorry 25565
#2560 [19:51] <Matt_> ok
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#2562 [19:51] <mattym> Matt_: Does its say Button 1: Attack and Button 2: Use Item
#2563 [19:52] <Angelman2741> i signed in but it still brings me back
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#2565 [19:52] <gio4422> i need help
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#2567 [19:52] <xales> gio4422: We can only help you if you describe the EXACT problem.
#2568 [19:52] <gio4422> a$$
#2569 [19:52] <xales> gio4422: Such as, what the error message is.
#2570 [19:52] <Daihak> 216.110.247.175 is my external ip I believe but I'm not sure how to port forward unless you just mean to do 216.110.247.175:25565
#2571 [19:52] <xales> Daihak: http://portforward.com/help/start_here.htm
#2572 [19:52] <mattym> That ^
#2573 [19:52] <Matt_> Ok that helped Thank you very much
#2574 [19:52] <xales> Angelman2741: Does it say anything when it brings you back?
#2575 [19:53] <mattym> Matt_: Is it working in game now?
#2576 [19:53] <gio4422> a$$ hole
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#2578 [19:53] <Matt_> yes thanks
#2579 [19:53] <Angelman2741> yea
#2580 [19:53] <mattym> Matt_: Cool
#2581 [19:53] <Matt_> yes very cool have a good night
#2582 [19:53] <mattym> Matt_: Yeah sometimes the control settings get messed up
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#2584 [19:54] <Flamethefox101> I've been having trouble with my minecraft server. It's been working for the past year, and today it's decided to stop. None of my friends can join, and the server has been stuck to LAN. I've looked through the ports, and nothing's been changed.
#2585 [19:54] <pppp> fuck you you son of a bich
#2586 [19:54] * AuBot kicked pppp from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ppp :Please keep it civil.)
#2587 [19:55] <xales> Flamethefox101: One of your IP addresses has probably changed, or your firewall perhaps.
#2588 [19:55] <mattym> Flamethefox101: Did your ISP change your IP address
#2589 [19:55] <Flamethefox101> No.
#2590 [19:55] <mattym> Flamethefox101: Are you running the server out of your house, or did you pay for server hosting somewhere?
#2591 [19:55] <Flamethefox101> I've already checked my firewall, and nothing's different from what it was before this happened.
#2592 [19:56] <Flamethefox101> Out of my home.
#2593 [19:56] <mattym> You said you can still connect to it locally right?
#2594 [19:56] <Flamethefox101> Yes.
#2595 [19:56] <mattym> So the server is running and not crashed out
#2596 [19:56] <Flamethefox101> Yep.
#2597 [19:56] <Angelman2741> xales it does say something
#2598 [19:56] <xales> Angelman2741: And what would that be?
#2599 [19:56] <mattym> Did you accidentaly enable the whitelist, or delete the whitelist?
#2600 [19:57] <Flamethefox101> nope.
#2601 [19:57] <Angelman2741> do u want me to copy it?
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#2603 [19:57] <Flamethefox101> I've kept it on the same settings as it was before.
#2604 [19:57] <devalslayer> hey
#2605 [19:58] <xales> devalslayer: Hello.
#2606 [19:58] <Flamethefox101> I tried to see if it was a bug with bukkit, so I tried it on a regular server, and it still didn't work.
#2607 [19:58] <mattym> Flamethefox101: No chance that the computer its on did any sort of update?
#2608 [19:58] <devalslayer> hey you play minecraft
#2609 [19:58] <xales> devalslayer: No, this is just the Minecraft help channel. Nobody here plays Minecraft.
#2610 [19:58] <devalslayer> i do
#2611 [19:58] <Flamethefox101> It did update.
#2612 [19:58] <xales> Flamethefox101: What is the error message that people get when they try to connect?
#2613 [19:58] <mattym> Flamethefox101: I would check to make sure that it didnt do some sort of security update and mess with the settings
#2614 [19:59] <devalslayer> it wont let me get in to minecraft rihgt now
#2615 [19:59] <xales> devalslayer: And why is that?
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#2617 [20:00] <mattym> That issue resolved itself
#2618 [20:01] <Angelman2741> it says a lot of things
#2619 [20:01] <xales> Angelman2741: Copy those things to http://pastie.org/ and click Submit. Then give us the link it takes you to.
#2620 [20:02] <Daihak> How can I change my allowed ports on my router while its functional or do I have to go offline to add the port numbers?
#2621 [20:03] <Angelman2741> its not letting me copy the things it says
#2622 [20:03] <xales> ??> Angelman2741 win/edit
#2623 [20:03] <VoxelHead> Angelman2741: As in all programs, CTRL+A is Select All. CTRL+C is Copy, CTRL+V is Paste.
#2624 [20:03] <mattym> Daihak: Shouldnt matter
#2625 [20:03] <xales> Daihak: You just log in to the router, following the instructions on the portforward site.
#2626 [20:04] <Angelman2741> wat ????
#2627 [20:04] <xales> Angelman2741: Read what VoxelHead said.
#2628 [20:04] <Daihak> ya cept they want me to pay 30 bucks to get info on my router ;p
#2629 [20:04] <Angelman2741> oohh
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#2631 [20:04] <xales> Daihak: You don't have to buy that. It is a program that does it FOR you. They have instructions to do it manually.
#2632 [20:05] <Angelman2741> ok i did it
#2633 [20:05] <xales> Angelman2741: Now give us the link.
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#2636 [20:05] <Angelman2741> http://pastie.org/8328944
#2637 [20:06] <xales> Angelman2741: Did Minecraft work before on that computer?
#2638 [20:06] <Angelman2741> yes
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#2640 [20:06] <Angelman2741> thats why im here now
#2641 [20:06] <Angelman2741> i wanna play again
#2642 [20:07] <xales> Angelman2741: The problem is that your computer is very old, and even when it was new, was a very basic computer. It is not meant for playing games, only viewing text on webpages and emails.
#2643 [20:07] <xales> Angelman2741: Restart your computer and see if it works.
#2644 [20:07] <Angelman2741> ok
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#2648 [20:11] <Flamethefox101> What it does is it acts as if they aren't even coming in.
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#2650 [20:11] <Jakeh> I need help
#2651 [20:11] <xales> Jakeh: Read the BIG RED TEXT a few lines up that you ignored.
#2652 [20:11] <mattym> Flamethefox101: Do they get an Error message of any type?
#2653 [20:12] <Jakeh> I have tried to buy minecraft 2 times in a row and i got the verification code on my phone and everything then all i get is a loding screen
#2654 [20:12] <xales> Jakeh: Use PayPal.
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#2656 [20:13] <Flamethefox101> Connection Refused: Connect.
#2657 [20:13] <Jakeh> Has my credit card been chaged both times
#2658 [20:13] <xales> Flamethefox101: It's a misconfiguration, then.
#2659 [20:13] <xales> Jakeh: No, it has not.
#2660 [20:14] <Jakeh> ok thank you
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#2662 [20:14] <xales> Flamethefox101: Did you put anything on the server-ip line in server.properties? (You should not have)
#2663 [20:14] <Flamethefox101> How do I fix it.
#2664 [20:14] <charthor> i cant remember my password and it is not sending me info on how to change it to my email
#2665 [20:14] <Flamethefox101> Nothing is there!
#2666 [20:14] <xales> charthor: Do you use AOL or Comcast as your email provider?
#2667 [20:14] <mattym> Flamethefox101: I would recommend running through the entire server setup process from scratch
#2668 [20:14] <xales> ^
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#2670 [20:14] <charthor> Gmail
#2671 [20:14] <xales> charthor: Just be patient, it sometimes takes a while for the email to arrive.
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#2673 [20:15] <charthor> days?
#2674 [20:15] <Lynnie> having a problem with migration, if I remove my email and user name will all users have a issue with the game that i purchased
#2675 [20:15] <xales> charthor: Not days, but sometimes an hour or so
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#2678 [20:15] <xales> Lynnie: What?
#2679 [20:15] <Flamethefox101> Ok, I'll try that soon. Brb.
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#2681 [20:15] <charthor> did it yesterday and still nothing
#2682 [20:15] <Angelman2741> hi does anyone know how to reboot a computer?
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#2684 [20:16] <Angelman2741> or restart and lose everything on the computer
#2685 [20:16] <mattym> Angelman2741: That just means turn it off and then on again
#2686 [20:16] <Angelman2741> no restart the computer with all the items on the computer gone
#2687 [20:16] <charthor> i havent played in several months and wanted to start again and now i cant
#2688 [20:16] <Lynnie> one of my boys coulnt access his account it said it need to migrate. I didnt know what it ment until I realized I had to use my username and pw
#2689 [20:17] <Daihak> blah I can set up static connections and cmd promt all my info but I can't find where to allow ports through my router any time I try to get into it it says I can't access it
#2690 [20:17] <mattym> Angelman2741: With the level of computer knowledge you have displayed thus far, i wouldnt recommend you doing that
#2691 [20:17] <Angelman2741> why would it be bad?
#2692 [20:18] <Lynnie> If i change my username and pw to his will that effect any other gifts i purchased with my username and pw.
#2693 [20:18] <mattym> Lynnie: It shouldnt have any effect on gift codes
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#2695 [20:18] <xales> Lynnie: Everything will be migrated over.
#2696 [20:18] <xales> charthor: It did tell you it was being sent, correct?
#2697 [20:18] <charthor> correct
#2698 [20:19] <xales> Angelman2741: If you need to do that, you will need to contact a professional to help you.
#2699 [20:19] <mattym> Daihak: What step is at that you are getting stuck at
#2700 [20:19] <Angelman2741> ok how do i contact a proffesional?
#2701 [20:19] <mattym> Find your local computer store
#2702 [20:19] <xales> Angelman2741: Ask your parents.
#2703 [20:19] <Angelman2741> my parents wont know how to do this
#2704 [20:19] <Lynnie> so all will be migratewd to the new username and pw. so anyone playing will have to us the same info
#2705 [20:19] <Angelman2741> or contact someone
#2706 [20:20] <xales> Angelman2741: They will know how to contact someone.
#2707 [20:20] <xales> Angelman2741: You can probably just take your computer to a computer store.
#2708 [20:20] <Angelman2741> yea i know
#2709 [20:20] <mattym> Lynnie: If people have activated gift codes, then the will have their own log in info
#2710 [20:20] <Lynnie> sorry i dont play and i even have a gift code i havent been able to activate in over a year.
#2711 [20:20] <Daihak> Well I havent been able to locate any guide for getting into the router I have allowed the port through windows firewall etc but when I try to access my router to allow the port it says this device cannot be accessed while enabled
#2712 [20:20] <Angelman2741> i still cant play minecraft though
#2713 [20:20] <xales> Angelman2741: Your computer is too old to be able to run it, really.
#2714 [20:20] <TFrag> Daihak: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
#2715 [20:21] <mattym> Daihak: Are you on a wirless connection?
#2716 [20:21] <xales> Lynnie: If you're trying to migrate your account, just migrate it.
#2717 [20:21] <xales> Lynnie: You cannot break anything by doing so.
#2718 [20:21] <Angelman2741> ive played minecraft for years on this computer though
#2719 [20:21] <Daihak> no im hardwired dlink router and that page you just linked me is the one that wants money when I click my modem on list
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#2721 [20:22] <Lynnie> LOL thanks i always feel im going to mess somthing up and make it worse.
#2722 [20:22] <xales> Daihak: What it shows you is an advertisement
#2723 [20:22] <mattym> Daihak: Do you see the big X above tha AD asking for money
#2724 [20:22] <xales> Daihak: Click "Continue" or "No thanks"
#2725 [20:22] <Daihak> >facepalm
#2726 [20:22] <mattym> Daihak: Dont worry you arent the first, and most certainly wont be the last
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#2729 [20:24] <Lynnie> so I can change username /pw and still beable to us mine in the future? If i understand correctly after I migrate he will be using this new user/pw for all future games?
#2730 [20:25] <Angelman2741> if my computer is to old then ow did i play this before?
#2731 [20:25] <xales> Lynnie: If you migrate your account, then you will log in to YOUR account using your email instead of your username.
#2732 [20:25] <xales> Angelman2741: It is too old to run reliably.
#2733 [20:25] <xales> Angelman2741: Officially, you are below the minimum requirements.
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#2735 [20:25] <xales> Angelman2741: If it works sometimes, great. It will not always work.
#2736 [20:25] <Angelman2741> its been working till i downloaded driver max
#2737 [20:26] <TFrag> ...
#2738 [20:26] <TFrag> lol.
#2739 [20:26] <TFrag> It probably deleted your drivers and installed the completely wrong ones.
#2740 [20:26] <Angelman2741> yea
#2741 [20:26] <Angelman2741> im gunna delete that
#2742 [20:26] <xales> Angelman2741: Then remove "driver max" and install the driver I told you to install.
#2743 [20:26] <mattym> Yeah, but i think we already corrected that, you may need more than just the video driver
#2744 [20:27] <Angelman2741> i installed that one
#2745 [20:27] <xales> Angelman2741: And did it work after you installed it?
#2746 [20:27] <Angelman2741> no
#2747 [20:27] <Lynnie> Well here is another ? he can log on but can only play demo, why is that?
#2748 [20:28] <xales> Lynnie: They are logging in to the wrong account, or have not bought Minecraft.
#2749 [20:28] <Angelman2741> should i reinstall minecraft?
#2750 [20:28] <xales> Angelman2741: That would not change anything.
#2751 [20:28] <xales> Angelman2741: You need to find a computer professional to repair your computer.
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#2753 [20:28] <Angelman2741> ok
#2754 [20:28] <xales> Angelman2741: You could try contacting HP, but your computer is probably out of warranty.
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#2757 [20:30] <mattym> Fixing that computer would involve throwing it in the trash and getting a new one
#2758 [20:30] <xales> yeah, but they would be like "i have no money"
#2759 [20:30] <ldpets> I have questions about how to run my server, I just got it so I dont know where else to go for help,
#2760 [20:30] <xales> "im a kid and am not supposed to have money"
#2761 [20:30] <xales> "i cant ask my parents for things"
#2762 [20:30] <xales> ldpets: What's the question(s)?
#2763 [20:31] <ldpets> is it possible to change a world from creative to survival with out losing all of the buildings made?
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#2765 [20:31] <mattym> ldpets: Yes
#2766 [20:31] <ldpets> in the realm server?
#2767 [20:32] <mattym> ldpets: You would need to stop the server, go into the properties file
#2768 [20:32] <ldpets> can you tell me how to do that?
#2769 [20:32] <ldpets> ok
#2770 [20:32] <mattym> ldpets: Wait is this a minecraft realms paid server?
#2771 [20:32] <ldpets> no i got it free the other day
#2772 [20:32] <xales> ldpets: Where did you get it from?
#2773 [20:32] <mattym> so your running the minecraft server off your own computer or another in your house/home?
#2774 [20:33] <Daihak> when I attempt to use my default gateway ie> internal router adress my browser says it can;t connect to it
#2775 [20:33] <ldpets> this is for pocket edition, there was a site with a countdown for when you ccould get one
#2776 [20:33] <ldpets> i jsut logged on at the right time and got one
#2777 [20:34] <mattym> i have no idea how to do anything with Pocket Edition
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#2779 [20:34] <ldpets> is there someone else i can talk to about changing things
#2780 [20:34] <xales> ldpets: Minecraft Realms isn't finished right now. If you can't Edit the server, and change the mode there, then you'll need to remake it.
#2781 [20:34] <mattym> ldpets: I look at the site you dot it from
#2782 [20:35] <xales> Daihak: Then you're using the wrong IP, most likely
#2783 [20:35] <xales> Daihak: Then you're using the wrong IP, most likely
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#2785 [20:35] <mattym> wow i messed that up royaly
#2786 [20:35] <TFrag> Daihak, are you on windows?
#2787 [20:35] <Daihak> I changed it to static I've used cmd to check and the dl program and tried
#2788 [20:35] <TFrag> ah
#2789 [20:35] <TFrag> well
#2790 [20:36] <Daihak> yes windows vista
#2791 [20:36] <ldpets> ok well i got it on minecraft when i logged onto my game and clicked play realms
#2792 [20:36] <TFrag> Go on cmd get the default gateway from ipconfig
#2793 [20:36] <TFrag> it's that IP.
#2794 [20:36] <mattym> should be something like 192.168.X.X
#2795 [20:36] <ldpets> are u talking to me,
#2796 [20:36] <mattym> no
#2797 [20:36] <ldpets> oh
#2798 [20:37] <mattym> ldpets: We dont support Pocket or Realms stuff here
#2799 [20:37] <ldpets> where do i go for that help do you know
#2800 [20:37] <mattym> ldpets: Best bet is to go back to the site you got the server from, and see if they offer support
#2801 [20:37] <xales> ldpets: Did you see what I said?
#2802 [20:37] <xales> ldpets: Minecraft Realms isn't finished right now. If you can't Edit the server, and change the mode there, then you'll need to remake it.
#2803 [20:37] <ldpets> yeah but i got it on my game i didnt go to a site
#2804 [20:37] <xales> ldpets: There is NO SUPPORT for Realms right now, because it is not finished.
#2805 [20:37] <ldpets> i just played
#2806 [20:37] <ldpets> ok
#2807 [20:38] <Daihak> The routor detector program can't identify my router ><
#2808 [20:38] <ldpets> dont have to yell, lol
#2809 [20:38] <ldpets> bye
#2810 [20:38] <TFrag> Don't use the program.
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#2812 [20:38] <TFrag> You can do it manually.
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#2814 [20:38] <Daihak> thats odd it thinks I have 2 routors
#2815 [20:38] <Daihak> routers*
#2816 [20:39] <xales> Daihak: Your ISP may have set up a double-NAT to prevent you from running servers.
#2817 [20:39] <Daihak> it looks that way
#2818 [20:41] <Daihak> is there anything I can do to erase their handiwork
#2819 [20:41] <Daihak> anyone wanna teamview me to verify theyve locked me out ?
#2820 [20:42] <xales> Daihak: I cannot at the moment. There's nothing you can to do prevent it if that's the case.
#2821 [20:42] <xales> Daihak: The best thing to do would probably be to call and ask them.
#2822 [20:42] <mattym> you need a client for that or is there a web view?
#2823 [20:42] <xales> mattym: TeamViewer needs a client.
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#2825 [20:43] <mattym> sorry then
#2826 [20:43] <Daihak> mmm alright it certainly looks as if they have locked me out of hosting by setting a double-NAt up
#2827 [20:43] <mattym> yeah, call them
#2828 [20:43] <mattym> they may want to charge you extra or may enable it if you ask
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#2830 [20:45] <mattym> You pay for your internet or is it considered "Essential Services" in Canada?
#2831 [20:47] <Daihak> I pay lol no such thing as free internet
#2832 [20:47] <Daihak> The vast majority of companies charge you bu usage to
#2833 [20:47] <Daihak> by
#2834 [20:48] <mattym> that sucks
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#2836 [20:50] <RyanGriff> My minecraft launcher won't open because of something like "outside permissions". What do I do?
#2837 [20:50] <xales> RyanGriff: What, exactly, does it say?
#2838 [20:50] <xales> Daihak: Buying a Minecraft server would cost less than running one on your own connection if you're billed for usage.
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#2842 [20:52] <sabiroo> I a trying to launch the game but get a message that says "FML is setting up your minecraft environment. Please wait FML has some tasks to do before you can play". It goes through a couple of cycles and then tells me it's launching...but I only get a black screen. What is happening and how can I fix it? It happened after my daughter downloaded a mod.
#2843 [20:53] <xales> sabiroo: Don't use the FML launcher.
#2844 [20:53] <xales> sabiroo: We can only help you if you're using the official launcher, not the mod laucher.
#2845 [20:54] <RyanGriff> It said "windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item
#2846 [20:54] <xales> RyanGriff: Just download the launcher again
#2847 [20:54] <mattym> sabiroo: You will either need to reinstall the game or create a new regular Profile in the launcher
#2848 [20:54] <RyanGriff> every time I download it it says the same thing
#2849 [20:55] <xales> RyanGriff: Is this your own personal computer, or is it a work/school computer?
#2850 [20:55] <RyanGriff> my personal laptop
#2851 [20:55] <xales> RyanGriff: If it's giving you errors like that, then something is very broken.
#2852 [20:55] <xales> RyanGriff: You should take it to a computer professional (possibly a computer shop) and have them fix whatever is wrong with it
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#2854 [20:56] <mattym> RyanGriff: Did you download it to some sort of protected/system folder?
#2855 [20:56] <RyanGriff> well I had this virus control thing, and i opened minecraft and it said block or allow and i exited out and it must've blocked it
#2856 [20:56] <xales> RyanGriff: Ah. In that case, it's the antivirus software doing it.
#2857 [20:57] <RyanGriff> so it's not broken?
#2858 [20:57] <xales> RyanGriff: No, the antivirus just makes it seem broken (and in a sense, it still is, because most antivirus software is utter garbage)
#2859 [20:57] <Bugboy1028> RyanGriff, are you using Mac?
#2860 [20:57] <sabiroo> How do I know what launcher I am using? I am trying to help my daughter who loves the game but am ignorant of terms. Where do I find the official launcher? And how do I delete the mod launcher?
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#2862 [20:58] <xales> sabiroo: You can just ignore it. You can download the official launcher from http://minecraft.net/download
#2863 [20:58] <RyanGriff> no i hav a windows 8 lenovo ans i uninstalled the antivirus thing and it's still blocking it
#2864 [20:58] <xales> RyanGriff: Did the uninstaller tell you to restart?
#2865 [20:58] <RyanGriff> no
#2866 [20:59] <xales> RyanGriff: Then you didn't uninstall it properly.
#2867 [20:59] <xales> RyanGriff: How did you "uninstall" it?
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#2869 [20:59] <RyanGriff> I went to the home screen clicked on it and it said uninstall and i did
#2870 [20:59] <xales> RyanGriff: Restart your computer, then
#2871 [21:00] <RyanGriff> alright, should i leave this open incase it doesn't work after or no?
#2872 [21:00] <xales> RyanGriff: If it still doesn't work, then call Lenovo's support, or take your computer to be fixed.
#2873 [21:00] <RyanGriff> ok thank you
#2874 [21:02] <xales> RyanGriff: Actually, you probably just need to uninstall the program via the Control Panel
#2875 [21:02] <Daihak> well im not billed for usage atm but they may ask for additional cost to allow me to host ill have to wait and see
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#2877 [21:02] <xales> Daihak: If they ask for more than $5 a month, then it is cheaper to just pay someone to run a server for you
#2878 [21:02] <mattym> Daihak: Yeah, if they charge extra, weigh the cost between that and buying hosting
#2879 [21:03] <RyanGriff> i think thats what o did
#2880 [21:03] <RyanGriff> i still isn't working
#2881 [21:04] <xales> RyanGriff: Is the program listed at all in the Control Panel "remove programs" function?
#2882 [21:04] <RyanGriff> wait how do i get to the control panel?
#2883 [21:04] <RyanGriff> is that the home button
#2884 [21:04] <xales> RyanGriff: https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=27423
#2885 [21:05] <mattym> Has anyone made a way to get the propper Windows Button function back in Win8?
#2886 [21:05] <xales> mattym: What do you mean?
#2887 [21:06] <mattym> From what ive seen and read there is no Windows Button, or windows key function in Win8
#2888 [21:06] <RyanGriff> i did method one and it still isn't working it's what I'd done before
#2889 [21:06] <xales> mattym: There is no Start Menu, the super key works just fine
#2890 [21:06] <xales> RyanGriff: Then restart your computer.
#2891 [21:06] <xales> RyanGriff: If the program still appears ANYWHERE, then you did not uninstall it properly.
#2892 [21:07] <mattym> xales: but how would i do something like Win+R used to do?
#2893 [21:07] <xales> mattym: Those still work
#2894 [21:07] <xales> I think
#2895 [21:07] <cestislife> mattym: That still works.
#2896 [21:07] <cestislife> The Windows key's "functions" are untouched.
#2897 [21:07] <mattym> If you have an old keyboard
#2898 [21:07] <cestislife> It's just that the start menu is replaced with the home screen
#2899 [21:07] <cestislife> mattym: It still works.
#2900 [21:07] <mattym> Some of the newer ones dont even have the physical key
#2901 [21:07] <xales> mattym: The keyboard is irrelevant, the super key is the super key
#2902 [21:07] <xales> oh
#2903 [21:07] <cestislife> They should.
#2904 [21:07] <xales> well if they don't have a super key then the manufacturer should jump off a bridge
#2905 [21:07] <cestislife> At least should still have one.
#2906 [21:08] <xales> my 11' netbook has two super keys
#2907 [21:08] <cestislife> At least of the left.
#2908 [21:08] <xales> because why not
#2909 [21:08] <cestislife> on*
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#2911 [21:08] <mattym> I was looking at a all in one model at a store the other day and it had nothing of the sort
#2912 [21:08] <xales> mattym: if it's one of the shittier ones that expects you to just touchscreen it, then that's not that surprising
#2913 [21:08] <mattym> I was completely lost looking at it
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#2915 [21:11] <mattym> Yeah I just looked at a few, some seem to have it, some dont. Its really stupid if they dont
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#2917 [21:13] <cadebenoit49> Hello
#2918 [21:13] <cadebenoit49> I need help
#2919 [21:13] <xales> cadebenoit49: Read the BIG RED TEXT a few lines up that you ignored.
#2920 [21:13] <cadebenoit49> Oh..........
#2921 [21:14] <xales> cadebenoit49: And also, don't repeat characters like that. You will be automatically silenced for a short time if you do.
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#2923 [21:14] <cadebenoit49> When I try to login to the Minecraft Launcher it says:
#2924 [21:14] <cadebenoit49> (The disk structure is corrupted and unreadable) at net.minecraft.bootstrap.Bootstrap.unpack(Bootstrap.java:146) at net.minecraft.bootstrap.Bootstrap.execute(Bootstrap.java:123) at net.minecraft.bootstrap.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:381)
#2925 [21:14] <xales> wat
#2926 [21:14] <xales> cadebenoit49: Your computer is broken.
#2927 [21:15] <cadebenoit49> ?
#2928 [21:15] <xales> cadebenoit49: Your hard disk is screwed up, you'll need to contact your computer manufacturer's support, or take the computer to be looked at/repaired.
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#2935 [21:19] <cadebenoit49> Hello
#2936 [21:20] <xales> cadebenoit49: Hi.
#2937 [21:20] <cadebenoit49> Sorry, my internet isn't that good
#2938 [21:20] <cadebenoit49> There isn't ANYTHING at all I can do?
#2939 [21:20] <xales> cadebenoit49: Your hard disk is screwed up, you'll need to contact your computer manufacturer's support, or take the computer to be looked at/repaired.
#2940 [21:21] <cadebenoit49> It wa sworking fine like 5 minutes ago....
#2941 [21:21] <cadebenoit49> was*
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#2943 [21:21] <xales> cadebenoit49: Yes, and then it became broken.
#2944 [21:21] <cadebenoit49> Okay :I
#2945 [21:21] <cadebenoit49> Thanks anyways
#2946 [21:21] <cadebenoit49> Bye.
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#2952 [21:33] <cadebenoit49> Hi
#2953 [21:33] <xales> Hello again.
#2954 [21:33] <cadebenoit49> I fixed it XD
#2955 [21:33] <xales> Great.
#2956 [21:33] <cadebenoit49> I just restarted my PC
#2957 [21:33] <cadebenoit49> You seem happy...
#2958 [21:34] <Thrae> cadebenoit49: If you're using Windows, I would immediately run a full chkdsk on your system volume (C:).
#2959 [21:34] <xales> I'm not really sure how one can express emotion over text
#2960 [21:34] <cadebenoit49> What's bothering you?
#2961 [21:34] <Andrio> xales: :-)
#2962 [21:34] <cadebenoit49> Okay, I'll see on doing that, Thrae. :D
#2963 [21:35] <Thrae> cadebenoit49: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Check-your-hard-disk-for-errors <-- same instructions for Windows Vista, 7, and 8.
#2964 [21:35] <sabiroo> Well...I don't know. I downloaded the official launcher and tried to launch but it seems to be stuck. In the development console it reads "logging in with user name and password" but is stuck there for five minutes
#2965 [21:35] <xales> sabiroo: Did you click the Play button?
#2966 [21:35] <cadebenoit49> Ok thanks y'all I think this will help me out alot! :D
#2967 [21:35] <Thrae> cadebenoit49: I'd leave it checking overnight because it may take an hour or more.
#2968 [21:35] <Thrae> cadebenoit49: If it finds any errors, you may have a bad HDD on your hands.
#2969 [21:36] <cadebenoit49> Yea
#2970 [21:36] <cadebenoit49> I already know my PC is effed up
#2971 [21:36] <cadebenoit49> When I try to open a program it says this "Open With' Crap.
#2972 [21:37] <Thrae> cadebenoit49: Well then make sure you do the bad sector check along with the repair & fix. That could extend your use a tiny bit, but you will need it professionally diagnosed and fixed.
#2973 [21:37] <cadebenoit49> Yea, kinda figured
#2974 [21:37] <cadebenoit49> Okay going disk check now :P
#2975 [21:38] <sabiroo> yes I clicked it and nothing happened so I clicked on development console and the text reads "logging in with password and username" but just sits there.
#2976 [21:38] <xales> sabiroo: Close the launcher and open it again, see if anything changes.
#2977 [21:38] <sabiroo> ok
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#2982 [22:00] <ernanimc> i need change my minecraft email account pls! help!
#2983 [22:01] <ernanimc> my old email got hacked ;-;
#2984 [22:01] <xales> ernanimc: When did you buy Minecraft?
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#2986 [22:02] <ernanimc> hmmmm... 1 year ago (sorry my bad english)
#2987 [22:03] <ernanimc> the email of my account is ernani_camargo_j@yahoo.com.br and i want to change to mini.purple@outlook.com, how i can do this?
#2988 [22:04] <ernanimc> xales: u can help me?
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#2990 [22:05] <xales> ernanimc: One moment.
#2991 [22:06] <ernanimc> xales: ok
#2992 [22:06] <xales> ernanimc: https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/901432-changing-your-email-address
#2993 [22:07] <ernanimc> but, i need to migrate my account first ya?
#2994 [22:07] <xales> If you have bought it a year ago, you already have a Mojang account
#2995 [22:08] <ernanimc> no, i don't have a mojang account, only minecraft account
#2996 [22:08] <ernanimc> is 1 or 2 years
#2997 [22:08] <xales> then the only way to change your email is to open a ticket
#2998 [22:08] <xales> which the instructions also say
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#3000 [22:11] <ernanimc> wow, my email is ernani_minecraft@yahho.com O.o but i don't remember the password and to change i need my hacked email XD
#3001 [22:12] <A_REDGUMMYBEAR> i scratched the numbers off my pre paid card like and idiot help
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#3005 [22:14] <ernanimc> xales: i have a problem
#3006 [22:15] <ernanimc> xales: i need to enter in my email to migrate my account?
#3007 [22:15] <xales> ernanimc: In order to migrate your account, you have to check your email.
#3008 [22:15] <xales> ernanimc: read this: https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#3009 [22:15] <xales> A_REDGUMMYBEAR: What?
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#3011 [22:17] <ernanimc> xales: what is the translation ID?
#3012 [22:17] <xales> ernanimc: Click on it and it will tell you.
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#3014 [22:18] <ernanimc> xales: i don't have any code, i buyed it in cdkeybrasil.com and send my name and password and later, the original minecraft has been buyed
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#3016 [22:18] <xales> ernanimc: Ah. Mojang can not assist you with buying from any website that is not minecraft.net
#3017 [22:19] <xales> ernanimc: You will not be able to change your email address then.
#3018 [22:20] <ernanimc> xales: but, I think the guys from cdkeybrasil bought on the official website, so they asked for my account
#3019 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> ernanimc - How much did you purchase minecraft for?
#3020 [22:21] <travis_> i downloaded minecraft and it is telling me my drivers need updated. they are fully updated. i did everything that minecraft error said to do. the following link is my computer info thing https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ecd0115b4d7053ff079a
#3021 [22:22] <ernanimc> 75 R$, 37 $
#3022 [22:22] <ernanimc> xales: 75 R$, 37 $
#3023 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> travis_ - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_win8-64.aspx
#3024 [22:23] <ernanimc> travis_: u have a graphics card?
#3025 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> ernanimc - Why that much, when you could have purchased it straight from minecraft.net for just $26.95USD ?
#3026 [22:24] <ernanimc> GreyVulpine: because i'm brazilian ;-;³ and i don't have a international card :(
#3027 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Well, anyway. Since you didn't purchase it from Mojang, Mojang has no proof that you're the real owner of the account. cdkeybrasil is. If they're at all malicious, they could very well easily take your account back.
#3028 [22:27] <ernanimc> GreyVulpine: i got my old email hacked for a steam user, he's tell me to click in the link for won a game, and much steam users got hacked, i have my steam account back, but my email no.
#3029 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing Mojang can do about it. You didn't purchase minecraft directly from them.
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#3031 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Upon purchase, a receipt is generated, along with a transaction ID that only the buyer gets. That transaction ID is what you need to prove that you are the true owner of the account.
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#3033 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Since you did not purchase minecraft from Mojang directly, you do not have the transaction ID, and thus, cannot prove that you're the rightful owner of the account.
#3034 [22:30] <ernanimc> GreyVulpine: if the minecraft go to the greenlight, i vote to enter in steam store, it will turn more easy buy
#3035 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's been out for 3 years now. It's been purchased well over 12 million times.
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#3037 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> I think that's a pretty easy buy in itself. Mojang has its own distribution platform. Why tie into Steam's more restrictive platform?
#3038 [22:32] <ernanimc> GreyVulpine: my friend love minecraft, and he can't buy it because he don't have a international card, and your mom don't let him buy another site
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#3040 [22:35] <ernanimc> but for brazilians buy minecraft from the minecraft.net is not easy, buy in another site for R$ is more easy, and the paypal don't work correctly anytime
#3041 [22:35] <xales> ernanimc: Minecraft is only sold through minecraft.net, and will always only be sold there.
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#3043 [22:37] <ernanimc> xales: it's the problem, the castle miner z too, is $ or paypal :|
#3044 [22:38] <xales> ernanimc: So get a Visa or MasterCard or use PayPal
#3045 [22:39] <ernanimc> i'm from brazil, i'm not american, don't have $, only R$ :(
#3046 [22:39] <xales> ernanimc: If you pay with Visa or MasterCard, it will convert currency automatically
#3047 [22:39] <ernanimc> xales: O.O
#3048 [22:39] <Solwren> Well, the same problem exists with insane Terrain load times, post 1.6.2 . and envronment not "reacting" (no animals moving, blocks being created etc) after total reinstall of Minecraft and Java.... Same problem exists on brand spankin' new laptop fresh out of the box. Am starting to believe it has to be software, not environment.
#3049 [22:40] <ernanimc> xales: but i can't use cards...
#3050 [22:40] <Solwren> matters not which world
#3051 [22:40] <xales> Solwren: Where are you getting Minecraft from? It works fine for everyone else.
#3052 [22:40] <xales> ernanimc: Why not?
#3053 [22:40] <Solwren> doesn't work fine for anyone else, people at Mojang just ignoring all the posts heh
#3054 [22:40] <ernanimc> my mom don't let me do this
#3055 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft works fine here.
#3056 [22:40] <xales> Solwren: The other 12 million people that play Minecraft on the PC aren't having the problem you are having.
#3057 [22:41] <Solwren> the other 42000 that play on laptops are
#3058 [22:41] <Solwren> check your posts
#3059 [22:41] <xales> Solwren: Minecraft works perfectly fine on my netbook
#3060 [22:41] <xales> Solwren: If you have a $600 laptop from 2006, yeah, it's sure not going to work well, because the laptop is a piece of crap
#3061 [22:41] <xales> Solwren: Just like any other game
#3062 [22:41] <Solwren> Try reading once.
#3063 [22:42] <xales> Solwren: I don't even know what "posts" you're talking about, and I don't really care.
#3064 [22:42] <Solwren> Brand spanking new Laptop fresh out of the box it does not work.
#3065 [22:42] <xales> Solwren: And what are the specs of the laptop?
#3066 [22:42] <xales> Solwren: If it has a slow CPU and a bad video card, then it will be slow just like any other game
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#3068 [22:42] <Solwren> lol as if
#3069 [22:42] <ernanimc> Solwern: try to refresh more u notebook, ou reduces the graphic, or update your graphics drive
#3070 [22:43] <Solwren> i-7 , 8GB ram,
#3071 [22:43] <xales> Solwren: And what is the video card?
#3072 [22:43] <ernanimc> refresh it
#3073 [22:43] <ernanimc> u have a video card?
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#3075 [22:45] <Solwren> yeah, NVidia, checking for specs. Point also being, my video card didn't change on the other installation.
#3076 [22:46] <xales> Solwren: I can run Minecraft perfectly fine on many computers, some less powerful than the one you say you are having problems on. Thus, the problem is clearly with something you are doing.
#3077 [22:46] <Solwren> Actually your logic is incorrect
#3078 [22:47] <Solwren> Your logic states because a = b c must be true because I say so.
#3079 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> And yours was better? If A, then all A? If my laptop can't run it, all laptops can't?
#3080 [22:48] <Solwren> I've been playing a great plenty long time on multiple machines. And it's not ironic that it stops working flat out on patch day.
#3081 [22:48] <Solwren> I didn't say all laptops did i
#3082 [22:48] <Solwren> I stated there are many asking for help with the situation.
#3083 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> <Solwren> the other 42000 that play on laptops are
#3084 [22:48] <Solwren> I don't see the word all in there anywhere, Mr. I can't speak English
#3085 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Now then, xales was merely providing a counterargument.
#3086 [22:49] <Solwren> How is that a counter argument?
#3087 [22:49] <xales> Hey Solwren, guess what?
#3088 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> So now, you're attacking my character, a logical fallacy in itself.
#3089 [22:49] <xales> I'm what's called an "expert"
#3090 [22:49] <xales> If you're not going to listen to me, I'm just going to ban you
#3091 [22:49] <xales> Sound good?
#3092 [22:50] <ernanimc> xales: hey, thx for help me
#3093 [22:50] <Solwren> I've listened to you, and explained to you what the problem is with what you've told me, so that you can derive another alternative.
#3094 [22:50] <xales> Solwren: There is no other "alternative".
#3095 [22:50] <Solwren> There was no character attack other than to tell you your attempt didn't do anything.
#3096 [22:50] <ernanimc> GreyVulpine: hey, thx for help me
#3097 [22:50] <Solwren> I wasn't the one who attacked you, you attacked me.
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#3099 [22:54] <ernanimc> hey guys, i'll slppe, good nigth for all, bye!
#3100 [22:54] <ernanimc> *sleep
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#3102 [22:59] <Solwren> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1886083-162-lag-edition/ is one of a number of posts that reference issues with 1.6+ . with FPS rates dropping from nearing 100, down to under 30-40 post update to 1.6.x+. Mine have had similar results, dropping to 18-21 fps hence why I came here to speak with community experts.
#3103 [23:00] <xales> Solwren: https://mojang.atlassian.net/browse/MC-15072
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#3107 [23:07] <Solwren> Yeah, I've been to that page as well. At the bottom of that page Ez states that the person who reported it, has had it fixed with 1.6.2 so it must be fixed (although noted another use reported it post 1.6.2). As far as I can tell I'm on 1.6.2 on the new machine and 1.6.3+ to try any non-mod suggestion I could find. AFK sec, going to tab out to watch a video that claims to have a solution.
#3108 [23:08] <xales> Solwren: If your laptop has dual GPUs, which many NVIDIA laptops do, then that would be the problem, and you just need to change a setting in the control panel
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#3113 [23:24] <Solwren> Well, after turning off the GEforce 650M.. I strangely now have great FPS again, but still have the issue that nothing's "moving" when the game does finally load. None of the world renders outside my extremely small visible area , as I walk up to it i just fall off the planet heh
#3114 [23:25] <Solwren> (assuming that was the GPU fix you referenced?)
#3115 [23:25] <cestislife> If it only happens on that one world, it could mean corrupt world.
#3116 [23:25] <Solwren> unfortunately it's all worlds, but I guess that doesn't preclude the possibility they all got corrupted.
#3117 [23:25] <cestislife> And yes, Minecraft have issues with dua graphics card setups.
#3118 [23:25] <cestislife> dual
#3119 [23:25] <cestislife> Try creating a new one to confirm.
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#3121 [23:39] <LinuxGol_> hmm
#3122 [23:39] <CrappyNoob> I can't get past the insallation on the forge src installer. It stops while attempting to recompile.
#3123 [23:40] <xales> CrappyNoob: We can't help you with Forge here, sorry. Perhaps ask on the Forge forum or IRC channel
#3124 [23:40] <Solwren> So, the GPU fix to single was the right thing on the one laptop; I had turned it off in the wrong spot. I'll have to see if the other laptop has a similar feature for non-NVidia cards. Thanks for the help.
#3125 [23:40] <CrappyNoob> Well, I can't get the forge irc to work either XC
#3126 [23:41] <CrappyNoob> I'll try elsewhere.
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#3128 [23:41] <xales> Solwren: Sure. It's quite possible that on the other laptop, it's just not powerful enough, too.
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