#MinecraftHelp > 2010-12-18
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#12 [18:23] <resuni> if i install the server software on my own server do i still have to pay?
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#23 [18:27] <lilybet> hi
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#25 [18:28] <ConMan8> Hello
#26 [18:28] <lilybet> i was just trying to buy the game and i tried everything but it keeps giving me a transaction error
#27 [18:28] <lilybet> would it be because im in canada and im canadian
#28 [18:29] <ConMan8> no
#29 [18:29] <ConMan8> What payment method are you using?
#30 [18:29] <lilybet> umm im using a prepaid card
#31 [18:29] <lilybet> visa
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#33 [18:31] <lilybet> it says im paying in euros but is there a way to change that
#34 [18:32] <ConMan8> You're paying in your currency and it's being converted to euros
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#36 [18:32] <lilybet> ok so thats not the problem
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#38 [18:33] <lilybet> is the cvc/cvv code the 3 digits on the back of the card
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#44 [18:38] <Mathuin> Minecraft brings down my Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit desktop box. :-(
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#46 [18:38] <Mathuin> It doesn't happen immediately, and it only happens when I'm playing full-screen and I'm clicking a lot.
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#48 [18:38] <Mathuin> In related news, any ideas why I can't always fill in a lava square with stone?
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#50 [18:42] <ConMan8> related news: Because there's more lava directly under it?
#51 [18:43] <ConMan8> main topic: easy solution, stop playing fullscreen and stop clicking. :P
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#53 [18:44] * ConMan8 pokes Kealper
#53 [18:45] * Kealper grumbles
#53 [18:47] <Kealper> http://txrn.net:8000/listen.pls <-- music stream i'm currently listening to.... </random>
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#55 [18:49] <Mathuin> ConMan8: Your easy solution is way less fun. :-(
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#57 [18:49] <Mathuin> ConMan8: I'd believe that if it decremented the blocks in hand.
#58 [18:49] * Peter-C raises his hand
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#59 [18:49] <wafflecone> hello, can anyone help me?
#60 [18:49] <Peter-C> How do I keep cows out of my base
#61 [18:50] <wafflecone> ...
#62 [18:50] <Kealper> Mathuin: because it placed it, but the lava was deep....keep placing
#63 [18:50] <ConMan8> Peter-C: doors, reeds, no grass in your base
#64 [18:50] <ConMan8> wafflecone: maybe
#65 [18:50] <Peter-C> Thanks
#66 [18:50] <ConMan8> wafflecone: tell us how you need help
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#68 [18:50] <Peter-C> Erm...is their anyway to get one out without killing it?
#69 [18:50] <wafflecone> Cows are attracted to grass?
#70 [18:50] <Peter-C> I am SUPER noobish
#71 [18:50] <Peter-C> I just got it an hour ago :)
#72 [18:50] <ConMan8> Oh yes, and netherstone combined with cacti
#73 [18:50] <ConMan8> pwns everything
#74 [18:51] <wafflecone> well my problem is, i am installing a mod, but im worried. inside my minecraft.jar theres a BF, inside the mod i want to install, theres a BF, will it replace and mess up whatever else i have?
#75 [18:51] <ConMan8> Mobs are attracted to light
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#77 [18:51] <Peter-C> On a random note, I just killed a cow with my bare fists
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#79 [18:51] <wafflecone> grats peter, im still working on the money :C
#80 [18:51] <wafflecone> five dollers more.. YOU ILLUDE ME!!!!
#81 [18:51] <Cial> wafflecone, just copy your minecraft.jar so that away you can restore it if the mod messes up
#82 [18:52] <ConMan8> What's a BF?
#83 [18:52] <Cial> but the two folders will probably combine
#84 [18:52] <ConMan8> wafflecone, quick quick
#85 [18:52] <ConMan8> get alpha before it's too late
#86 [18:52] <wafflecone> BF is a .class file :/
#87 [18:52] <ConMan8> as in, get alpha RIGHT NOW
#88 [18:52] <Cial> yea
#89 [18:52] <wafflecone> im working on it.
#90 [18:53] <Cial> the mod will over write it
#91 [18:53] <wafflecone> dont think i will make it, i cant pay for updates either :(
#92 [18:53] <Cial> but that s what it is supposed to do
#93 [18:53] <wafflecone> so i guess ill be uninstalling in a few days. ok so cial
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#95 [18:53] <wafflecone> its one mods BF.class, and i have another that uses BF... i dont know what the first mod is, will it be ok?
#96 [18:54] <Cial> that is a question for #Risucraft
#97 [18:54] <Cial> i dont know
#98 [18:54] <wafflecone> risucraft is general.
#99 [18:54] <wafflecone> they dont support peoples
#100 [18:54] <Peter-C> Question
#101 [18:55] <Peter-C> On mountion tops is it normal to find a lot of trees
#102 [18:55] <Cial> they dont support but some times they will tell what will happen
#103 [18:55] <Cial> do you have mod loader?
#104 [18:55] <wafflecone> ok, thanks. and yes i do.
#105 [18:55] <wafflecone> i have mod loader.
#106 [18:55] <Peter-C> I have A LOT of trees on the first map I generated
#107 [18:55] <wafflecone> haha great peter!
#108 [18:55] <wafflecone> those are the building blocks of life
#109 [18:55] <Cial> you should be fine thats one of the things its for is to keep mods from fucking up each other
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#111 [18:56] <wafflecone> O_O
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#113 [18:58] <ConMan8> Peter-C: That's just your personal unique map generating c:
#114 [18:58] <Peter-C> Will the clouds through the base issue be fixed?
#115 [18:58] <Peter-C> I have a base at the top of a mt. and I find it annoying when clounds go right through my walls
#116 [18:58] <thereddeh> will the alpha saves be ruined? :>
#117 [18:58] <Cial> lol
#118 [18:58] <Cial> you and everyone else
#119 [18:59] <Cial> thereddeh, no promises
#120 [18:59] <thereddeh> :(
#121 [18:59] <ConMan8> Peter-C: They're meant to do that.. there's a mod that raises cloud high, and putting the game into fast turns the clouds into 2D things
#122 [18:59] <thereddeh> what about pinkyswears
#123 [18:59] <Cial> probably not
#124 [18:59] <ConMan8> thereddeh: It's possible, but unlikely
#125 [18:59] <Peter-C> Damn cows around my base
#126 [19:00] <Cial> i havent heard anything about a possibly save breaking update
#127 [19:00] <Cial> and Notch usually warns us
#128 [19:00] <Cial> about a week before hand so
#129 [19:00] <Cial> i think you are good
#130 [19:01] * thereddeh keeps fingers crossed
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#131 [19:01] <Peter-C> What about ladders?
#132 [19:01] <Peter-C> I like it how you only need to have one every other day
#133 [19:01] <Cial> last time the format changed he gave out the documentation so people could make converters
#134 [19:02] <Peter-C> Please say that is not a glitch, I want it to stay D:
#135 [19:02] <ConMan8> It's not a glitch
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#137 [19:05] <mib_nwexjm> hello
#138 [19:05] <mib_nwexjm> i was just trying to buy the game when it says This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments.
#139 [19:05] <mib_nwexjm> what does that mean
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#141 [19:06] <ConMan8> Your card isn't cool
#142 [19:06] <ConMan8> Get another one
#143 [19:06] <mib_nwexjm> do they not take prepaid cards
#144 [19:07] <ConMan8> It's probably just your provider
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#146 [19:07] <mib_nwexjm> its visa and on the buy now button it says mastercard / visa
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#149 [19:09] <KimKar> What kind of food heals you the most?
#150 [19:09] <ConMan8> golden apples
#151 [19:09] <KimKar> You sure?
#152 [19:09] <ConMan8> yes
#153 [19:09] <ConMan8> They heal 10 hearts, aka your everything
#154 [19:10] <KimKar> Thank you.
#155 [19:11] <KimKar> Is diamond the best weapon'/
#156 [19:11] <KimKar> ?
#157 [19:11] <thereddeh> no
#158 [19:11] <thereddeh> tnt :)
#159 [19:11] <KimKar> Lol.
#160 [19:12] <ConMan8> tnt is like a double-edged sword
#161 [19:12] <ConMan8> Diamond tools has 1025 uses
#162 [19:12] <thereddeh> really? i can only think of like 5 ;p
#163 [19:12] <ConMan8> Apparently obsidian is harder than diamond
#164 [19:12] * Peter-C panics
#164 [19:13] <Peter-C> Soooo much coal!!! :D
#165 [19:13] <KimKar> Is there such thing as an obsidian sword?
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#169 [19:16] <Liraxus> Hello, could someone give me the default Minecraft Texture pack?
#170 [19:16] <Liraxus> I want to make an anti-lag pack
#171 [19:16] <ConMan8> Why?
#172 [19:16] <ConMan8> KimKar, there are no obsidian weapons in Minecraft
#173 [19:16] <Liraxus> :1
#174 [19:16] <ConMan8> Obsidian is only used for creeper-proof bases and portals
#175 [19:16] <Cial> KimKar, there is a mod for that
#176 [19:16] <KimKar> Ok, thanks.
#177 [19:17] <Liraxus> erm
#178 [19:17] <KimKar> What's a mob spawner?
#179 [19:17] <Liraxus> Its only found in dungeons
#180 [19:17] <Cial> Liraxus, why not just get it our of the minecraft.jar
#181 [19:17] <Liraxus> if your on at least easy, monsters will appear by it
#182 [19:17] <Liraxus> and uh...Cial...
#183 [19:17] <KimKar> Thanks.
#184 [19:17] <Liraxus> ya...
#185 [19:17] <Cial> its a blue cage with fire in it that spawns monsters
#186 [19:18] <Liraxus> My friend linked me to free minecraft...
#187 [19:18] <Cial> found underground in dungeons
#188 [19:18] <Liraxus> Meep <:1
#189 [19:18] <Liraxus> and this version dosen't have a minecraft.jar
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#191 [19:18] <Liraxus> I just need the png, and i will get to work
#192 [19:19] <ConMan8> Doesn't have a minecraft.jar?
#193 [19:19] <ConMan8> It doesn't sound like it's safe
#194 [19:19] <Liraxus> actually, it works really great
#195 [19:19] <KimKar> How do you work levers and buttons?
#196 [19:19] <ConMan8> If it's missing the actual game files..
#197 [19:19] <Liraxus> You just don't have sound and music
#198 [19:19] <ConMan8> KimKar: they emit an electic charge while active
#199 [19:19] <Liraxus> Besides, its the only .zip file i could find for minecraft
#200 [19:20] <Liraxus> this computer dosen't have rar, and the owner dosen't want it
#201 [19:20] <ConMan8> KimKar: you can use this charge with doors and stuff, and redstone stuff
#202 [19:20] <KimKar> What's the point?
#203 [19:20] <ConMan8> KimKar: making computers
#204 [19:20] <ConMan8> c:
#205 [19:21] <KimKar> What's the health of monsters?
#206 [19:21] <ConMan8> Liraxus: do you know if you buy Minecraft you get skins and multiplayer, and probably even more online-only stuff to come..
#207 [19:21] <ConMan8> KimKar: it varies..
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#209 [19:21] <KimKar> Highest monser>?
#210 [19:22] <ConMan8> woah, creepers have 10 and a half hearts on hard
#211 [19:22] <ConMan8> pff
#212 [19:22] <ConMan8> no
#213 [19:22] <ConMan8> I'm just being stupid, again
#214 [19:22] <Liraxus> Yes con
#215 [19:22] <ConMan8> That's how much damage they deal
#216 [19:22] <Liraxus> but were kinda poor
#217 [19:23] <Liraxus> besides, the version on my computer has custom textures
#218 [19:23] <ConMan8> Liraxus: it's only ten euros :c
#219 [19:23] <Liraxus> TEN EUROS?!
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#221 [19:23] <ConMan8> yeah.
#222 [19:23] <Liraxus> PBBBHT! I'D SELL MY HAND FOR THAT MUCH CASH!
#223 [19:23] <ConMan8> It's almost in beta soo it'll be 15 euros
#224 [19:23] <Liraxus> i want someone to gift it to me >_>
#225 [19:24] <ConMan8> KimKar, I can't find any complete mob health table anywhere, but mob health is shown on each individual mob page
#226 [19:24] <ConMan8> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mobs
#227 [19:25] <Liraxus> Ghast are nightmares
#228 [19:25] <Liraxus> run from creepers
#229 [19:25] <Liraxus> zombies are a sinch
#230 [19:25] <Liraxus> oh, and don't bother zombie pigmen
#231 [19:25] * Peter-C raises hand
#231 [19:25] <Liraxus> the end
#232 [19:25] <Peter-C> Why did I just hear a ghost?
#233 [19:25] <Liraxus> ...
#234 [19:25] <Liraxus> What did it sound like
#235 [19:25] <Liraxus> an "Uuuuh"
#236 [19:25] <Peter-C> I am digging a mine and I just hear weird ghostly rawr
#237 [19:26] <Liraxus> Zombie
#238 [19:26] <Peter-C> I have it on pleasure
#239 [19:26] <Liraxus> You might have found a dungeon
#240 [19:26] <Liraxus> ...
#241 [19:26] <Liraxus> then your house is haunted
#242 [19:26] <Peter-C> o.o
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#245 [19:26] <Liraxus> well
#246 [19:26] <Liraxus> that or an animal mob
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#249 [19:27] <Liraxus> possibly a cow
#250 [19:28] <Liraxus> so uh, can i have the texture pack or not
#251 [19:28] <ConMan8> ambience, Peter-C
#252 [19:28] <ZarroTsu> I want to buy minecraft with the gift code feature for a friend before the 20th, however paypal requires a week for bank withdrawl, and I clearly do not have that time. Does anyone know if there's any way about buying minecraft before the 20th?
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#254 [19:30] <ConMan8> Use a credit/debit card?
#255 [19:30] <Liraxus> Zarrotsu?
#256 [19:30] <Liraxus> FROM FRAXY?
#257 [19:30] <Liraxus> dude! i Watch your vids all the time!
#258 [19:30] <Liraxus> You frikken' rock!
#259 [19:31] <Liraxus> well...ehem...
#260 [19:31] <Liraxus> I really would like the default goddamn texture plz
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#262 [19:33] <ZarroTsu> <+ConMan8> Use a credit/debit card? <- use a debit card how?
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#264 [19:33] <ZarroTsu> I see only creditcard bullshit, and I have not a credit card
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#266 [19:33] <mib_xog2qr> Hey guys
#267 [19:34] <mib_xog2qr> Im having some problems with my game
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#269 [19:34] <ConMan8> oh
#270 [19:34] <mib_h00xg1> hello
#271 [19:34] <mib_xog2qr> When I go to a server, it says downloading terrain
#272 [19:34] <ConMan8> Yeah.
#273 [19:34] <mib_xog2qr> but then I go into the game im a black charecter.
#274 [19:34] <mib_h00xg1> hello
#275 [19:34] <mib_xog2qr> And cant move at all, any ideas on a fix?
#276 [19:34] <ConMan8> Nope
#277 [19:34] <ConMan8> Hmm
#278 [19:34] <ConMan8> Hello other mib_
#279 [19:35] * mib_xog2qr is now known as ConorNXD
#280 [19:35] <ConorNXD> Is there anyway I can contact anyone for support?
#281 [19:35] <ConMan8> a black character is a lack of skin..
#282 [19:36] <mib_h00xg1> help
#283 [19:36] <ConorNXD> But theres no map, or skin.
#284 [19:36] <ConMan8> It may be that your client is unable to contact mc.net
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#286 [19:36] <mib_h00xg1> ?
#287 [19:36] <ConorNXD> And I cant move, all around is blue.
#288 [19:36] <ConMan8> mib_h00xg1, with what
#289 [19:36] <mib_h00xg1> how to talk?
#290 [19:36] <ConorNXD> Hit T
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#292 [19:37] <mib_h00xg1> oh srry i was talking the whole time lol very srry
#293 [19:37] <ConorNXD> Conman, is there anybody I can contact for support?
#294 [19:37] <Liraxus> Ey
#295 [19:37] <Liraxus> i never got my default texture pack
#296 [19:37] <mib_h00xg1> ok well here is my Q
#297 [19:38] <ConMan8> ConorNXD, it might be your internet connection
#298 [19:38] <mib_h00xg1> how to setup minecraft on linux i looked everywere and i cant just simply open it
#299 [19:38] <ConorNXD> Conman, its not me personally, its my friend.
#300 [19:38] <mib_h00xg1> just so u know i just started using linux today
#301 [19:38] <ConMan8> mib_h00xg1: Get the .jar version from the downloads page, it's under Linux/Other
#302 [19:38] <ZarroTsu> So how do I go about buying a gift account with debit, then?
#303 [19:39] <ConMan8> ZarroTsu: ..with paypal :p
#304 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> paypal won't FUCKING LET ME
#305 [19:39] <ConMan8> mib_h00xg1: and update Java if you can
#306 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> paypal only accepts credit cards
#307 [19:39] <mib_h00xg1> lol i already did that but when i double click the thing it comes up as an archive
#308 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> if I try to withdraw from my account, it says it will take a week
#309 [19:39] <ConMan8> ZarroTsu: I bought Minecraft twice with a debit card
#310 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> how?
#311 [19:39] <mib_h00xg1> lol i dont know how to udate java but i have jave 6 u 20
#312 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> did you withdraw and wait a week?
#313 [19:39] <ConorNXD> And Im talking to him on skype, so if hes talking to me how would it be his internet connection?
#314 [19:39] <ZarroTsu> because I don't have a week
#315 [19:40] <ConorNXD> mib_h00xg1: you have to use a terminal command
#316 [19:40] <ConMan8> mib_h00xg1: looks like you have your file associations setup incorrectly
#317 [19:40] <mib_h00xg1> how can u tell??
#318 [19:40] <ConorNXD> Conman, My jar files never worked before because of how it was set up and I ended up opening them up and writing it in bash
#319 [19:40] <ConorNXD> right click it and try open it with java.
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#321 [19:40] * ConMan8 pokes GreyVulpine
#321 [19:41] <mib_h00xg1> hmmm how to open with java??
#322 [19:41] <ConorNXD> right click and check for options
#323 [19:41] <ConorNXD> Conman, My jar files never worked before because of how it was set up and I ended up opening them up and writing it in bash
#324 [19:41] <mib_h00xg1> lol rry to be such a little newb...
#325 [19:41] <ConorNXD> Oops...
#326 [19:41] <ConorNXD> Sorry >_>
#327 [19:41] <mib_h00xg1> oh it never had optoins
#328 [19:41] <ConorNXD> ConMan8: , My jar files never worked before because of how it was set up and I ended up opening them up and writing it in bash
#329 [19:42] <ConorNXD> Oh dear god, why does that keep happening..
#330 [19:42] <ConorNXD> Ill just comeback when some of the ops are on, maybe they'll be able to help.
#331 [19:42] * ConMan8 pokes Kealper
#331 [19:42] <ZarroTsu> I need to buy minecraft with debit now. I do not have a week for transfer, I have two days.
#332 [19:42] * ConMan8 pokes Cial and fogWraith
#332 [19:42] <mib_h00xg1> so how to have my java setup correctly?/
#333 [19:42] <Cial> o_o
#334 [19:42] <Kealper> rawr?
#335 [19:42] <ConMan8> GUUUUYYSS
#336 [19:42] <ConMan8> HEELP MEE
#337 [19:42] <Kealper> o.o
#338 [19:43] <Cial> with what
#339 [19:43] <Kealper> getting overwhelmed? lol
#340 [19:43] <ConMan8> ZarroTsu, you have about 22 hours
#341 [19:43] <mib_h00xg1> how to get my java setup correctly??
#342 [19:43] <Cial> what OS
#343 [19:43] <mib_h00xg1> linux
#344 [19:43] <Liraxus> D:
#345 [19:43] <Cial> not a clue
#346 [19:43] <Liraxus> I never got my texture...
#347 [19:43] <mib_h00xg1> lol
#348 [19:43] <Liraxus> WHY YOU NEVER GIVE ME MAH DEFAULT TEXTURE PAAACK
#349 [19:44] <mib_h00xg1> any1 here know how to fix it??
#350 [19:44] <Cial> Liraxus, im sure google will reveal what you need
#351 [19:44] <ZarroTsu> so then how do I buy with debit? :\
#352 [19:44] <Kealper> good god ConMan8, what have you got yourself into?
#353 [19:44] <fogWraith> Wuhwhat?
#354 [19:44] <Liraxus> Cial
#355 [19:44] <Liraxus> i tried, nothing
#356 [19:44] <mib_h00xg1> ....... so no1 knows how to fix java>>>>
#357 [19:45] <mib_h00xg1> ?
#358 [19:45] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: define fix?
#359 [19:45] <Cial> mib_h00xg1, not many of us use linux
#360 [19:45] <ConMan8> Liraxus: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14348700/terrain.png
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#362 [19:45] <Kealper> i'll assume you are on ubuntu?
#363 [19:45] <Cial> which linux distro
#364 [19:45] <mib_h00xg1> yes i am
#365 [19:45] <mib_h00xg1> i am on ubunto
#366 [19:45] <Liraxus> you rock, conman
#367 [19:45] <Kealper> 10.04?
#368 [19:45] <mib_h00xg1> 10.10
#369 [19:46] <Kealper> close enough...lol
#370 [19:46] <Cial> go to the software manager
#371 [19:46] <mib_h00xg1> lol
#372 [19:46] <Cial> wait are you trying to install it
#373 [19:46] <mib_h00xg1> k
#374 [19:46] <mib_h00xg1> no i am trying to fix
#375 [19:46] <Kealper> what's wrong with it?
#376 [19:46] <mib_h00xg1> lol
#377 [19:46] * Cial twitches
#377 [19:46] <mib_h00xg1> well i try to open minecraft but there r no optoins for java
#378 [19:47] <mib_h00xg1> but i installed jre6u20 just 20 mins ago
#379 [19:47] <Cial> can you type like a normal human :/
#380 [19:47] <Kealper> open a terminal window and type java -version
#381 [19:47] <mib_h00xg1> k
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#383 [19:48] <Kealper> does it do anything or just not have any idea what you are trying to do?
#384 [19:48] <ConorNXD> Kealper, you think you could help me with a problem?
#385 [19:48] <ConorNXD> When I go to a server, it says downloading terrain
#386 [19:48] <ConorNXD> but then I go into the game im a black charecter.
#387 [19:49] <Kealper> O.o
#388 [19:49] <ConorNXD> And I cant move, all around is blue.
#389 [19:49] <Kealper> is your ingame name ConorNXD?
#390 [19:49] <ConorNXD> Its not me personally, its actually a friend.
#391 [19:49] <Kealper> oh
#392 [19:49] <ConorNXD> His name is Raw_Reflex
#393 [19:49] <Kealper> uhh....
#394 [19:49] <Cial> ConorNXD, the chunks havent loaded yet
#395 [19:49] <Kealper> how long does this stay like this?
#396 [19:49] <ConorNXD> He left it on for about 10 minutes, nothing happens until he exits
#397 [19:50] <Kealper> O.o
#398 [19:50] <ConorNXD> He definately connects as I can see it in the server window.
#399 [19:50] <Cial> how fast of a connection is he on
#400 [19:50] <mib_h00xg1> it says "OpenJDK Runtime envirement (icetea6 1.9.2)........."
#401 [19:50] <Cial> how fast are you on?
#402 [19:50] <mib_h00xg1> but nothing to do with jre
#403 [19:50] * ConMan8 slaps Cial around a bit with a large trout
#403 [19:50] <ConorNXD> No idea cial, im on a slow connection but even on some of the better servers.
#404 [19:50] <ConorNXD> I mean, he was on the top rated server must have had about 50+ people on but still it just sat there
#405 [19:50] <Kealper> have him connect to mc.kealper.com
#406 [19:51] <ConorNXD> He's actually just gone off, im just researching, will it be up tomorrow morning?
#407 [19:51] <mib_h00xg1> kealper it says nothing to do with jre only Jdk enviro
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#409 [19:51] <Kealper> 24/7
#410 [19:51] <ConorNXD> would you mind connecting to my server to see if its a problem on my side?
#411 [19:51] <Kealper> ok, address?
#412 [19:52] <mib_h00xg1> is any1 listening?
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#414 [19:52] <ConorNXD> ConorsServer.no-ip.org
#415 [19:52] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: what did you install? you want the runtime enviroment not the development kit
#416 [19:52] <ConorNXD> dont expect it to be overly fast.
#417 [19:52] <ConorNXD> Im running this on a laptop and not a good upload speed :L
#418 [19:52] <mib_h00xg1> kealper well it says JDK runtime enviro
#419 [19:52] <Kealper> that literally loaded instantly ConorNXD
#420 [19:52] <Kealper> literally....instantly...
#421 [19:53] <mib_h00xg1> but everything on there is 2 do with JDK
#422 [19:53] <ConorNXD> I've seen others with the same problem, they said it may have been a problem with his LAN card but theres no drivers available for them and the single player seems to work fine :S
#423 [19:53] <mib_h00xg1> so do i have to install jre??
#424 [19:53] <mib_h00xg1> or is it already on there??
#425 [19:54] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: yes, have you tried going to http://java.com ? they may have a bash script installer
#426 [19:54] <ZarroTsu> alright, I tried sending an e-Check
#427 [19:54] <Kealper> i don't know too much about linux, i've only got a basic knowledge of it :S
#428 [19:54] <ZarroTsu> will an e-Check to payment@mojang.com right now be considered an alpha account purchase? :(
#429 [19:54] <mib_h00xg1> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.2) (6b20-1.9.2-0ubuntu2) OpenJDK Client VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing) here is wat it says exactly
#430 [19:55] <ConorNXD> Mib, download JDK and JRE by googling it.
#431 [19:56] <ConorNXD> Then open terminal and type : ava -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#432 [19:56] <ConorNXD> Java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#433 [19:56] <ConorNXD> Or you could always try to run it in browser.
#434 [19:57] <ConorNXD> By the way Kealper, im running on a 300kb/s dl and 30kb/s ul..
#435 [19:57] <ConorNXD> It'll probably be laggy if more than 3-4 people go on i'd say :S
#436 [19:58] <Kealper> wow...then just me being on it doing stuff has to be pushing it lol
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#438 [19:58] <ConorNXD> It works pretty ok to be honest, no idea why ^_^
#439 [19:59] <mib_h00xg1> k
#440 [19:59] <ConorNXD> But anyway, if you find a solution to that problem tell me :D
#441 [19:59] <ConorNXD> Also, is there anyway to spawn blocks when on a server?
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#444 [19:59] <Kealper> type /help
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#446 [20:00] <ConorNXD> Nothing about spawning D:
#447 [20:00] <Kealper> the /give command
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#449 [20:02] <ConorNXD> There's none, but thanks for your help anyways.
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#452 [20:05] <KimKar> How do you open iron doors?
#453 [20:05] <mib_h00xg1> how to setup java then on linux?? like cuz it has no specified program to install it with
#454 [20:06] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: did you download the package from java.com?
#455 [20:06] <ConMan8> KimKar: with electricity
#456 [20:07] <KimKar> SOab.
#457 [20:07] <mib_h00xg1> i tried it from oracle and java.com
#458 [20:07] <KimKar> Is there a quick way to explain how to elecrute it?
#459 [20:07] <mib_h00xg1> i still have both
#460 [20:07] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: was there some sort of setup file with the extension .sh?
#461 [20:08] <Peter-C> What is this? http://www.petercoti.com/images/p2q0C.jpg
#462 [20:08] <mib_h00xg1> no and it was suppossed to be self-extracting
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#467 [20:10] <Kealper> mib_h00xg1: i'm not really much help with this...the only real current experience i have with linux is via Linux Mint, and it had java in it's software maanger...
#468 [20:10] <Kealper> manager*
#469 [20:10] <Kealper> i would assume Ubuntu has something similar
#470 [20:10] <Kealper> Peter-C: it's called bedrock, you can't fine it
#471 [20:10] <Kealper> it's found at the bottom of the map
#472 [20:11] <KimKar> Is there anything brighter than torches?
#473 [20:11] <Kealper> KimKar: the sun, lava, fire
#474 [20:11] <Peter-C> YAY!
#475 [20:11] <Peter-C> I hit the bottom of the map! :D
#476 [20:11] <KimKar> Thank you.
#477 [20:11] <KimKar> So what do I need to set up eletricity to my door?
#478 [20:12] <Kealper> and i realize that sounded sarcastic, but they all have a light value of 15, torches are 14 lol
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#480 [20:12] <Kealper> KimKar: easiest way is to make a switch (lever) and place it next to your door
#481 [20:12] <KimKar> Not on it?
#482 [20:12] <Kealper> no, just next to it
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#484 [20:12] <KimKar> Would a button work too?
#485 [20:13] <Kealper> yes, but a button would only open it for a sec
#486 [20:13] <KimKar> Thank you.
#487 [20:13] <Kealper> a lever will keep the door open until flopped the othe rway
#488 [20:13] <Kealper> other way*
#489 [20:13] <Kealper> flipped.....man i can't type and eat at the same time
#490 [20:13] <ConMan8> You can make awesome redstone constructions..
#491 [20:14] <ConMan8> for example one that toggles the output whenever the input turns on
#492 [20:14] <ConMan8> so switches are toggles
#493 [20:14] <ConMan8> Redstone is win
#494 [20:14] <Kealper> ConMan8: i think that's a bit more advanced than he cares to mess with at this moment lol
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#497 [20:15] <lemon-rev> paste
#498 [20:15] <lemon-rev> incomming
#499 [20:15] <lemon-rev> # JRE version: 6.0_22-b04
#500 [20:15] <lemon-rev> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (17.1-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 )
#501 [20:15] <lemon-rev> # Problematic frame:
#502 [20:15] <lemon-rev> # C [OpenAL32.dll+0xc059]
#503 [20:15] <Kealper> install the latest audio drivers
#504 [20:15] <lemon-rev> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4aa0c059, pid=3144, tid=3576
#505 [20:15] <lemon-rev> hm
#506 [20:16] <lemon-rev> stil that openal32.dll shit
#507 [20:16] <Kealper> openal is audio
#508 [20:16] <lemon-rev> hm,
#509 [20:16] <lemon-rev> so it doesnt like my audio
#510 [20:16] <Kealper> something about it, it seems
#511 [20:19] <ArmEagle> btw, how is Notch going to plan going into beta while he's programming for this contest?.. though, ok.. 20th isn't till Monday :)
#512 [20:20] <Kealper> i doubt he's pouring his soul into that contest lol
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#514 [20:21] <DJbberko> hey hows it goin
#515 [20:21] * Kealper hides
#515 [20:21] <DJbberko> :(
#516 [20:21] <DJbberko> no one likes me, i went to the discussion server and they cursed me off
#517 [20:22] <ConMan8> It's going... to craaassshhh!
#518 [20:22] <DJbberko> of course
#519 [20:22] <DJbberko> so in the singleplayer, i make a house and survive?
#520 [20:22] <DJbberko> is that all i do
#521 [20:23] <DJbberko> or can there be more to it
#522 [20:23] <Glas> Hello
#523 [20:23] <Glas> Could someone help me with this?
#524 [20:23] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&p=1604545#p1604545
#525 [20:23] <ConMan8> You can do anything you want, DJbberko
#526 [20:23] <ConMan8> It's a sandbox game
#527 [20:23] <DJbberko> reinstall java GLas
#528 [20:23] <DJbberko> well, i aint to creative
#529 [20:24] <DJbberko> i think it would be better if there were more ai
#530 [20:24] <ConMan8> Monsters?
#531 [20:24] <DJbberko> and people
#532 [20:24] <ConMan8> planned
#533 [20:24] <DJbberko> conman8, what have you done in your singleplayer
#534 [20:24] <DJbberko> in the beta?
#535 [20:24] <ConMan8> remember.. the game is in alpha (almost beta!)
#536 [20:24] <DJbberko> yea
#537 [20:25] <ConMan8> Let's see..
#538 [20:25] <ConMan8> I made a home inside a mountain my first game
#539 [20:25] <DJbberko> thats what i did
#540 [20:25] <DJbberko> im building it now, i have a sun roof
#541 [20:25] <ConMan8> I made a house hanging off a cliff another game
#542 [20:25] <DJbberko> and there's cole and iron in mine
#543 [20:25] <ConMan8> c:
#544 [20:25] <DJbberko> thats cool
#545 [20:26] <DJbberko> but thats all there is mainly, make a house
#546 [20:26] <Kealper> lol GLaDOS
#547 [20:26] <GLaDOS> feel free to update it when its tomorrow in the US as well
#548 [20:26] <DJbberko> its the 20th not 19th
#549 [20:26] <DJbberko> right?
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#551 [20:26] <Kealper> 20th
#552 [20:26] <DJbberko> so 2 days
#553 [20:26] <Kealper> it's already the 19th in australia
#554 [20:26] <ConMan8> It's the 19th here
#555 [20:26] <DJbberko> oh
#556 [20:26] <GLaDOS> australia is closer to sweden in timezones as well
#557 [20:27] <DJbberko> so whats gonna be new in the beta
#558 [20:27] <Kealper> Fucking timezones, how do they work?
#559 [20:27] <GLaDOS> OH GOD I WANT HONEY CHICKEN :c
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#561 [20:27] <ConMan8> I want a pet bacon
#562 [20:27] <GLaDOS> bakunz
#563 [20:27] <GLaDOS> *_*
#564 [20:27] <DJbberko> that would be cool if you could have pets in minecraft
#565 [20:27] <Kealper> lol
#566 [20:27] <ConMan8> pet bacon
#567 [20:28] <DJbberko> so whats comin in te beta?
#568 [20:28] <GLaDOS> i dont know
#569 [20:28] <ConMan8> nobody knows!
#570 [20:28] <GLaDOS> im just a cat
#571 [20:28] <KimKar> Shit man, do logs burn forever?
#572 [20:28] <ConMan8> except for the mojangs
#573 [20:28] <DJbberko> hmm?
#574 [20:28] <ConMan8> KimKar: they burn forever if only the top is burning
#575 [20:28] <GLaDOS> ConMan8: you mean Mojang ABs
#576 [20:28] <KimKar> Dang, thanks.
#577 [20:28] <GLaDOS> theres a secret channel called #mojang
#578 [20:29] <GLaDOS> ERM I SAID NOTHING
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#580 [20:29] <Kealper> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#581 [20:29] <ConMan8> #mojang unable to join channel (invite only)
#582 [20:29] <ConMan8> :o
#583 [20:29] <imran> I need help...
#584 [20:29] <DJbberko> what
#585 [20:29] * Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@notlogged] has quit. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
#586 [20:29] <Kealper> GLaDOS: i can has invite pweeeze?
#587 [20:29] <imran> I want to buy Minecraft using a prepaid credit "giftcard"
#588 [20:29] <imran> its a visa
#589 [20:29] <GLaDOS> imran: i suggest the nearest mental clinic
#590 [20:29] <DJbberko> Kealper deserves invite
#591 [20:29] <ConMan8> I bet Miclee is in there.. ;;
#592 [20:29] <GLaDOS> correct
#593 [20:30] <imran> but everytime I get an error Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: authentication denied. If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 106194022
#594 [20:30] <Miclee> Waht
#595 [20:30] <Miclee> Where?
#596 [20:30] <Miclee> I bet I am.
#597 [20:30] <Kealper> DJbberko: thanks lol
#598 [20:30] <Miclee> GLaD0S you fuck
#599 [20:30] <Miclee> You told them about it!?
#600 [20:30] <Miclee> :P
#601 [20:30] <imran> Please? Because I want to buy it before it goes into beta and I miss out on all the good stuff!
#602 [20:30] <GLaDOS> now they'll whine about it
#603 [20:30] <GLaDOS> imran: use paypal
#604 [20:30] <GLaDOS> it has a credit card part
#605 [20:30] <GLaDOS> it may help
#606 [20:30] <imran> I cant seem to verify
#607 [20:30] <ConMan8> You won't miss out on anything, imran
#608 [20:30] <imran> with credit card
#609 [20:31] <imran> I miss on out the updates for life ConMan8
#610 [20:31] <KimKar> Why ain't I losing health?
#611 [20:31] <ConMan8> Are you on peaceful?
#612 [20:31] <KimKar> No.
#613 [20:31] <ConMan8> Are you not touching a haphazard object?
#614 [20:31] <GLaDOS> unfreeze the damn value in cheat engine, fgt
#615 [20:32] <KimKar> I'm immune to drowning, + fire.
#616 [20:32] <DJbberko> haha
#617 [20:32] <DJbberko> Glados
#618 [20:32] <GLaDOS> yes?
#619 [20:32] <DJbberko> that was funn
#620 [20:32] <imran> GLaDOS: how do i use a prepaid credit card on paypal?
#621 [20:32] <DJbberko> funny*
#622 [20:32] <GLaDOS> imran: like a normal one, i'd say
#623 [20:33] <GLaDOS> now when you 2 dont need support, im off to get a coffee
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#626 [20:34] <KimKar> Damnit, I still can't die. Cheat engine closed.
#627 [20:34] * Kealper slaps KimKar
#627 [20:34] <ConMan8> What the hell
#628 [20:34] <KimKar> Ouch.
#629 [20:34] <KimKar> Ouch.
#630 [20:34] <ConMan8> Unfreeze the value first
#631 [20:34] <ConMan8> :|
#632 [20:34] <KimKar> Would help If I new what that meant.
#633 [20:35] <KimKar> It's just INVedit I didn't know I was messing with health.
#634 [20:35] <ConMan8> INVedit?
#635 [20:35] <ConMan8> >_>
#636 [20:35] <KimKar> Cheat.
#637 [20:35] <ConMan8> You might as well play classic
#638 [20:36] <GLaDOS> silly KimKar
#639 [20:36] <GLaDOS> making his health -999999999
#640 [20:36] <KimKar> I didn't touch health at all.
#641 [20:36] <DJbberko> loser
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#643 [20:36] <hommm> hey - I'm trying to play MC classic on a server my friend set up - when I load the page all I get is a black screen where the game would usually be. My friends can see my character and even watch me move around if I use WASD but I can't see a thing
#644 [20:36] <Kealper> sounds like you've had some exp with that GLaDOS
#645 [20:36] <hommm> any ideas?
#646 [20:36] <GLaDOS> KimKar: then dont set the damn armour's health to -9999
#647 [20:37] <GLaDOS> and RESTART MINECRAFT
#648 [20:37] <DJbberko> ok glados calm down
#649 [20:37] <KimKar> I'm not wearing anything. Already did.
#650 [20:37] <Kealper> hommm: how old is your computer
#651 [20:37] <hommm> it's a 2010 macbook
#652 [20:37] <GLaDOS> >macbook
#653 [20:37] <GLaDOS> dont make me
#654 [20:37] <hommm> I usually play on my Dell but it's in the shop
#655 [20:37] <hommm> this is my family's
#656 [20:38] <hommm> trust me, I hate it :P
#657 [20:38] <Glas> why does appear random lost connections on my hey0 serveR?
#658 [20:38] <ConMan8> > I'm not wearing anything.
#659 [20:38] <Kealper> >Implies
#660 [20:38] * ConMan8 wanders away
#660 [20:38] <DJbberko> i use my custom build pc
#661 [20:38] <imran> I dont think I can use a credit card to verify paypal without it taking 4 days or something stupid in which case it's gonna be minecraft beta time
#662 [20:38] <Kealper> Glas: restart without hey0 on, then ask us again
#663 [20:39] <Glas> wow
#664 [20:39] <Glas> that's Racist kealper =(
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#666 [20:39] <Kealper> Glas: type /topic
#667 [20:39] <KimKar> Damn my god-like powers.
#668 [20:39] <hommm> any ideas?
#669 [20:40] <GLaDOS> imran: if you pay me, ill let you use one of my beta codes
#670 [20:40] <Kealper> this channel is not for help about modded servers/clients, only stock ones
#671 [20:40] <Glas> Kealper
#672 [20:40] <Kealper> Glas:
#673 [20:40] <Glas> Running with out hey0 on
#674 [20:40] <Glas> [INFO] /58.233.43.143:49488 lost connection
#675 [20:40] <Kealper> is your internet horrid?
#676 [20:40] <DJbberko> wrong port
#677 [20:40] <Glas> [INFO] /112.201.4.27:2677 lost connection
#678 [20:40] <GLaDOS> DJbberko: why dont you take a seat over there
#679 [20:41] <Glas> it's a 100mb national bandwith and 30mb international i don't think so
#680 [20:41] <Kealper> DJbberko: it shows ports like that due to the way sockets work, that's normal
#681 [20:41] <GLaDOS> minecraft randomizes the port they connect on
#682 [20:41] <Glas> o_O
#683 [20:41] <GLaDOS> it first connects on <<PORT NUMBER HERE>>
#684 [20:41] <Glas> but i only have opened 1 port in my server
#685 [20:41] <GLaDOS> then opens shit
#686 [20:41] <GLaDOS> and even-
#687 [20:41] <Kealper> Glas: then i don't know :S
#688 [20:41] <GLaDOS> oh wait sockets
#689 [20:41] <Glas> [INFO] /58.233.43.143:49488 lost connection
#690 [20:41] <Glas> [INFO] /112.201.4.27:2677 lost connection
#691 [20:41] <Glas> [INFO] /58.233.43.143:49492 lost connection
#692 [20:41] <Glas> [INFO] /112.201.4.27:2685 lost connection
#693 [20:41] <Glas> ~~
#694 [20:42] <Glas> btw server ip is minecraftchile.no-ip.org:5002
#695 [20:42] <Glas> if you guys could check it out for a sec
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#706 [20:51] <Reactions> Anyone here pro at command line arguments for alpha servers?
#707 [20:51] <Kealper> depends, what'd ya need argued?
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#709 [20:51] <Reactions> I've got a quad core with 8 gb RAM running a server and eventhough I've specified 4 gb of ram it only uses about 1.4
#710 [20:51] <Reactions> I just want it as optimized as possible
#711 [20:51] <Reactions> its a pretty old CPU and system itself
#712 [20:52] <Reactions> Intel Q8200 and DDR2 RAM, but I figured it SHOULD be able to hold atleast 10-20 people
#713 [20:52] <Reactions> It's running Windows Server '08, and only MC Server nothign else
#714 [20:52] <Reactions> so completely dedicated
#715 [20:52] <Kealper> it's going to depend heavily on what your internet speeds are
#716 [20:52] <Reactions> ye
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#718 [20:53] <Reactions> I got around 1 mbps up atm, but Im gonna move the server to a place which got 40 mbps up soon
#719 [20:53] <Kealper> that's a bit of a jump lol
#720 [20:53] <Kealper> how much did you want to allocate to it?
#721 [20:53] <Kealper> i'll just type it up here
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#723 [20:55] <Kealper> java -Xmx4096M -Xms4096M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#724 [20:55] <Kealper> that'd be to allocate exactly 4 gigs
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#726 [20:55] <Reactions> hm I might have had both at Xmx and not one xms and one xmx
#727 [20:55] <Reactions> gonna check
#728 [20:55] <Reactions> I had some other arguments too
#729 [20:56] <GLaDOS> Reactions: it'll take what it needs
#730 [20:56] <GLaDOS> dont worry
#731 [20:56] <GLaDOS> it are normals
#732 [20:56] <imran> I wanted to buy minecraft using a prepaid credit card before it went into beta, because I dont have a real credit card It's a prepaid VISA card Everytime I try to buy the game I get this : Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: authentication denied. If you need to contact the shop please use the followin
#733 [20:56] <Reactions> hm
#734 [20:56] <Reactions> but people are saying it lags abit
#735 [20:57] <Reactions> oh and btw
#736 [20:57] <GLaDOS> thats bandwidth
#737 [20:57] <Reactions> When I move my server, what should I use to connect to it?
#738 [20:57] <GLaDOS> not RAM
#739 [20:57] <GLaDOS> lrn2computers
#740 [20:57] <GLaDOS> SSH
#741 [20:57] <Reactions> Hm, might be a good idea
#742 [20:57] <Kealper> lol GLaDOS
#743 [20:57] <Reactions> Is that what takes least performance/resources?
#744 [20:57] * Reactions knows computers pretty well Imo :)
#744 [20:58] <Reactions> Some friend of mine suggested to use something like Teamviewer but afaik that would drain resources etc
#745 [20:58] <GLaDOS> ಠ_ಠ
#746 [20:58] <Reactions> am I right? :P
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#750 [20:59] <Reactions> @echo off
#751 [20:59] <Reactions> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -server -Xmx4096M -Xms4096M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar Minecraft_Mod.jar nogui
#752 [21:00] <Reactions> thats what i have atm
#753 [21:00] <Reactions> Anything that should be edited?
#754 [21:00] <Kealper> holy minecraftgoddess that is overkill
#755 [21:00] <Reactions> I wondered if the parallelGCThreads should be set to 4 instead since I got 4 threads/cores
#756 [21:00] <Reactions> overkill? There's no such thing :O
#757 [21:01] <Reactions> well, what should I change/remove/add?
#758 [21:01] <Kealper> what i put was basically all you needed as far as params go
#759 [21:01] <Reactions> Should I set the Xmx/xms to 8192 instead?
#760 [21:01] <Kealper> other than that, more upload
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#762 [21:01] <Kealper> if you want to use 8 gigs of ram just for mc....then yea lol
#763 [21:01] <Reactions> why not, the computer only runs MC
#764 [21:01] <Kealper> does it have more than 8 gigs of ram installed?
#765 [21:02] <Reactions> no
#766 [21:02] <Reactions> only 8
#767 [21:02] <Kealper> then no
#768 [21:02] <Reactions> okay
#769 [21:02] <Reactions> how much then?
#770 [21:02] <Kealper> 4 is more than enough
#771 [21:02] <Reactions> okay
#772 [21:02] <Reactions> and remove all the other params?
#773 [21:02] <Reactions> Do they do anything bad?
#774 [21:02] <Reactions> I thought they increased performance
#775 [21:03] <Kealper> no, but i doubt the ugly code in the minecraft server can even properly utilise them
#776 [21:03] <Kealper> utilize*
#777 [21:03] <Reactions> well, I read it on the MC forums so :P
#778 [21:04] <Reactions> Are there any SSH programs with a GUI? That might decrease some of the time it takes to add/remove files, edit etc
#779 [21:04] * Kealper facepalms
#779 [21:04] <Kealper> GLaDOS:
#780 [21:04] <Reactions> Dont facepalm me :o
#781 [21:05] <Kealper> Reactions: no, SSH is a secured remote terminal session
#782 [21:05] <Reactions> Ye. I've used it before I just know that with mobile devices you can SSH with GUI like an explorer
#783 [21:05] <Kealper> if you've got a gui package installed....then just crank open a vnc viewer
#784 [21:05] <Reactions> And some of the other admins aren't that good with computers
#785 [21:06] <Reactions> Couldnt I use WinSCP?
#786 [21:06] <Kealper> never used it...so i don't know if that would work
#787 [21:07] <Reactions> "WinSCP is an open source free SFTP client and FTP client for Windows. Legacy SCP protocol is also supported. Its main function is safe copying of files between a local and a remote computer."
#788 [21:08] <Kealper> sounds like it's just an ftp client
#789 [21:08] <Kealper> if that's all you need, then that would work
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#791 [21:08] <Glas> decrhttp://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108689&p=1605497#p1605497
#792 [21:08] <Reactions> hm
#793 [21:08] <Reactions> I dunno
#794 [21:08] <Reactions> Just want to be able to edit the files and add/remove new ones
#795 [21:09] <Kealper> sounds like an job for ftp, to me
#796 [21:10] <Kealper> windows has a built-in ftp client right into explorer
#797 [21:10] <Kealper> it's not the greatest, but it works
#798 [21:11] <Reactions> hmm ok
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#802 [21:23] <Nikolito> Hey - has anyone else encountered problems with the "/kill" command?
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#804 [21:25] <Nikolito> Allo?
#805 [21:26] <Nikolito> *plops down in chair, wiggles feet until someone speaks up*
#806 [21:27] <Cial> Nikolito, dont use /kill its buggy as fuck
#807 [21:27] <Nikolito> heh heh
#808 [21:27] <Nikolito> Yes
#809 [21:27] <Nikolito> yes it is
#810 [21:27] <Nikolito> any way to fix the issues with it?
#811 [21:27] <Nikolito> Like
#812 [21:27] <Nikolito> Say
#813 [21:27] <Cial> not that im aware of
#814 [21:27] <Nikolito> A force respawn - but I suppose that's what the purpose of the command is -
#815 [21:27] <Nikolito> hm
#816 [21:28] <Nikolito> alright...
#817 [21:28] <Nikolito> well thanks
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#820 [21:32] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108689&p=1605497#p1605497
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#822 [21:32] <Lypse> Hi
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#824 [21:34] <DJbberko> hey
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#834 [21:45] <irons> Hey
#835 [21:45] <irons> Anyone else having problems trying to buy the game?
#836 [21:46] <Cial> probably an issue with paypal
#837 [21:46] <irons> I'm trying to use a Visa card.
#838 [21:46] <irons> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=106752&p=1591211&hilit=visa+gift+card#p1591211
#839 [21:47] <irons> There are about 10 forum posts.
#840 [21:50] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013
#841 [21:51] <irons> The requested topic does not exist.
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#847 [21:55] <Glas> wat
#848 [21:55] <Glas> try this
#849 [21:55] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108689&p=1605497#p1605497
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#851 [21:56] <irons> try a bad packet because there is no 3-D Secure information attached to the card?
#852 [21:59] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108689&p=1605497#p1605497
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#867 [22:35] <Ronjoe> i just realized something
#868 [22:35] <Ronjoe> that the humble indie bundle is outrageously easy to pirate
#869 [22:35] <Ronjoe> but that would be pointless, since its basicly free
#870 [22:39] <Cial> Ronjoe, yea everyone knows
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#876 [22:46] <KimKar> Is the pickaxe the only way to get rid of a brick block?
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#879 [22:51] <ctank> tnt bro
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#882 [23:09] <Peter-C> GAH
#883 [23:09] <Peter-C> I need a MineCraft addiction clinic :(
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#887 [23:14] <mib_5gaf2c> i need some help
#888 [23:14] <mib_5gaf2c> i recently bought the game, it charged my credit card, but it still says user not premium
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#890 [23:17] <ctank> could take awhile mib
#891 [23:17] <ctank> if the server is overloaded
#892 [23:17] <ctank> up to 12 hours i believe
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