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#3 [00:12] <SlugTheBug> hello, kealps
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#5 [00:12] <aetherian> ergh
#6 [00:12] <aetherian> on my friends compy
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#10 [00:17] <Mikau> compy 386?
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#16 [00:40] <KimKar> How do you power a minecart?
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#23 [01:01] <Desseler> hey
#24 [01:01] <Desseler> I have a question about the gift codes
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#27 [01:04] <Cial> ask away
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#29 [01:06] <Desseler> I am thinking about getting a few codes
#30 [01:06] <Desseler> 5 actually
#31 [01:07] <Desseler> while it is in alpha so they are alpha accounts
#32 [01:07] <Cial> alright
#33 [01:07] <Desseler> What I want to do is sell them later for a higher price when beta accounts are being sold
#34 [01:07] <Cial> thats kinda dickish of you
#35 [01:08] <Cial> but what ever
#36 [01:08] <Desseler> do you think notch would have a problem with that?
#37 [01:08] <Cial> probably but i dunno
#38 [01:10] <Desseler> ok, thanks for the help
#39 [01:11] <Desseler> Where would I contact Notch about this?
#40 [01:11] <Desseler> support@mojang.com?
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#43 [01:14] <Pharkas> Man, those creepers blew up the entrance to my cave.... T.T
#44 [01:15] <Desseler> where eould I contact Notch? support@mojang.com?
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#46 [01:16] <Desseler> Where would I contact Notch? support@mojang.com?
#47 [01:17] <AliStarr> you would get a mojang employee, maybe notch
#48 [01:20] <Mikau> Another Notch on my belt.
#49 [01:20] <Mikau> Oh ho ho!
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#53 [01:25] <opczar> so, I'm getting an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION error
#54 [01:26] <opczar> basically, minecraft crashes right after login
#55 [01:26] <opczar> ... so no helpers for that?
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#84 [03:17] <GoMySQL> Okay, folks. This problem has annoyed me enough. If I apply a texture pack - any pack, the game will, after about 15-20 mins just go to a flat black screen. But only multiplayer. I can play forever in SP. Anyone else have this problem/found a fix for it? This has been since day, regardless of version.
#85 [03:19] <Roenie> sounds like some kind of memory problem
#86 [03:19] <Roenie> texture memory that is
#87 [03:21] <Roenie> as always, start by looking at what happens at the time of the crash
#88 [03:21] <Roenie> e.g. log files
#89 [03:22] <GoMySQL> where are the log files hidden?
#90 [03:22] <Roenie> no clue
#91 [03:22] <Roenie> not sure if the mc server has one, but a console helps too
#92 [03:22] <GoMySQL> I kinda doubt it writes on for the clientside.
#93 [03:22] <GoMySQL> MC Server is fine.
#94 [03:22] <GoMySQL> MC Server never stops, the client hangs/blackscreens
#95 [03:23] <Roenie> who' s client
#96 [03:23] <GoMySQL> Me.
#97 [03:23] <GoMySQL> I can play SP with any texture pack, never hangs/locks. I log into a server, the minecraft client will, inevitably, blackscreen
#98 [03:24] <Roenie> dunno
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#100 [03:25] <Roenie> maybe someone built something in a way that the texture pack would cause the renderer to fail,
#101 [03:25] <Roenie> a way that you normally dont build things yourself
#102 [03:25] <Roenie> it may have a missing texture or whatever
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#105 [03:27] <GoMySQL> but i can log right back in and continue.
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#110 [03:56] <gravexxx1> Im lookin for a active PVP server, help?
#111 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> This isn't the channel for that
#112 [03:57] <gravexxx1> What channel do I ask?
#113 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Either look on the forums, or #smp
#114 [03:58] <gravexxx1> As far as I understand this is for help and I need help I swear I have gone through over 70 different servers from the forums.
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#117 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> This channel's for technical help with minecraft, not for looking for servers.
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#120 [04:04] <buzzinator> hello there... I'm having a payment problem with my prepaid gift card
#121 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, either you need to talk to the prepaid company, or, if you used it, paypal
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#124 [04:07] <buzzinator> sorry bout that, internet disconnected. coud you repeat that again?
#125 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, either you need to talk to the prepaid company, or, if you used it, paypal
#126 [04:08] <buzzinator> alright I'll try that, thanks
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#149 [05:16] <thereddeh> wheres the beta countdown timer?
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#155 [06:11] <mcfan1> Hello
#156 [06:11] <mcfan1> Im having port issues with multiplayer using a Realtek RTL8169...
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#159 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Define "port issues"
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#161 [06:15] <mcfan1> my whole ethernet connection is killed, to fix i pull lan cable from modem, and replug
#162 [06:17] <mcfan1> ive been reading this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=37489
#163 [06:22] <thereddeh> did minecraft get new music? ;p im like wtf wheres that music coming from
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#168 [06:40] <nobodyshome> any one know how to fix this error
#169 [06:40] <nobodyshome> Internal exception java.net.socketexception software caused connection abort recv failed
#170 [06:40] <nobodyshome> its smp server and my mates can join but when i try i get this
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#172 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting it?
#173 [06:42] <nobodyshome> ye
#174 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Brand of NIC?
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#177 [06:43] <nobodyshome> what's NIC
#178 [06:43] <nobodyshome> lol
#179 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> network interface card
#180 [06:44] <nobodyshome> nivnvidia
#181 [06:44] <nobodyshome> nvidia
#182 [06:46] * GreyVulpine blinks
#182 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you have an nforce chipset?
#183 [06:47] <nobodyshome> ye
#184 [06:47] <nobodyshome> what does this have to do with it?
#185 [06:47] <nobodyshome> jw
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#187 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Couple of brands (atheros and certain gigabyte) NICs have a known problem with minecraft's networking
#188 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Causes that exact error to pop up
#189 [06:48] <nobodyshome> oh
#190 [06:49] <nobodyshome> just i read loads of other people talk about it but mines exact opposite cuz there freinds can't join but the host can
#191 [06:49] <nobodyshome> but me i can't join but everyone else can
#192 [06:49] <nobodyshome> my servers not laggy or anything
#193 [06:49] <nobodyshome> i had 20 people on with no lag!
#194 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you edit your server.properties?
#195 [06:49] <nobodyshome> ye
#196 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you edit the server-ip line?
#197 [06:50] <nobodyshome> nope
#198 [06:50] <nobodyshome> left it blank
#199 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#200 [06:50] <nobodyshome> im using hey0 mod if that helps
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#202 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Any other plugins?
#203 [06:51] <nobodyshome> nope
#204 [06:51] <nobodyshome> just that
#205 [06:51] <nobodyshome> i tried other software still same error
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#207 [06:52] <arron> hi
#208 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> nobodyshome - Are you connecting with 127.0.0.1
#209 [06:53] <arron> how do u get rid of spawn points?
#210 [06:53] <nobodyshome> hi
#211 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> arron - You don't?
#212 [06:54] <nobodyshome> theres only one spawn point anyway
#213 [06:54] <arron> dam so how can i make the map flat?!
#214 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> For classic or alpha?
#215 [06:54] <nobodyshome> dig up all the ground and make it flat
#216 [06:54] <nobodyshome> lol jk
#217 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> if you're on the free classic server, there's tons of free flat maps for download
#218 [06:55] <arron> alpha im trying to build a zelda map in 3d but i need it flat so i can use the over blocks to make it in 3d?
#219 [06:55] <nobodyshome> or you can make your own in omen editor
#220 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> If you're on Alpha/SMP, it's not possible.. really.
#221 [06:55] <nobodyshome> acctualy
#222 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> There's a couple of mods and hooks you can do, but map generation won't let you do totally flat maps
#223 [06:55] <nobodyshome> you can use mcedit to make some stuff flat
#224 [06:55] <arron> o.o so i buy the game and i cant do whats in classic O.o
#225 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#226 [06:56] <nobodyshome> use mcedit and make the area flat
#227 [06:56] <arron> =(
#228 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> You can, but then you get to the boundaries of an alpha map, and it'll generate more random terrain nobodyshome
#229 [06:56] <nobodyshome> what
#230 [06:56] <nobodyshome> never done that to me
#231 [06:56] <nobodyshome> crap
#232 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Uh, yeah...
#233 [06:56] <arron> will it be in the full game or beta?
#234 [06:57] <nobodyshome> if it regenerates more im screwed i built a city there
#235 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Maybe arron.
#236 [06:57] <nobodyshome> yay
#237 [06:57] <nobodyshome> its worked
#238 [06:57] <arron> mybe O.o
#239 [06:57] <nobodyshome> i can join it
#240 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#241 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> what'd you do?
#242 [06:58] <nobodyshome> i reinstalled java and joined using 127.0.0.1
#243 [06:58] <arron> this is not good i hope its in beta because this is why i buyed it!
#244 [06:58] <nobodyshome> baught it *
#245 [06:58] <nobodyshome> heres the ip i was trying to join with
#246 [06:58] <nobodyshome> 82.46.99.14
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#256 [07:57] <Mine-Creater> Hello, can I buy minecraft with American Express?
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#263 [08:18] <tie> Hiya guys, any idea why, when trying to get to my own server, I get:
#264 [08:19] <tie> [INFO] Disconnecting Sallien1 [(ip-here)]: Took too long to log in
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#268 [08:31] <tie> ah, fixed, ta
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#273 [08:39] <Mjiig> afternoon. I got mincrafttoday, every so often it opens the menu without me pressing esc. first time it happens i can get back by pressing "back to the game" second time it happens i have to go back to the title screen. Can any one help?
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#279 [08:57] <Aiken_Drumn> Hello everyone. My game keeps locking up...
#280 [08:57] <Kealper> O.o
#281 [08:57] <Aiken_Drumn> I can only play a few minutes then it simply stops responding
#282 [08:58] <Aiken_Drumn> Only got the game a few hours ago.. i'm yet to reach night time!?!
#283 [08:58] <Kealper> pc specs?
#284 [08:59] <Aiken_Drumn> 2GB Ram, Centrino Duo, vista, 4.5windows score?
#285 [08:59] <Aiken_Drumn> it locks up as im mining away usually
#286 [08:59] <Kealper> hmm....laptop?
#287 [08:59] <Aiken_Drumn> yeah
#288 [09:00] <Aiken_Drumn> Toshiba satellite p200
#289 [09:00] <Kealper> can you give me the model number? minecraft tends to run badly on laptops due to their underpowered graphics chips
#290 [09:00] <Kealper> lol...
#291 [09:00] <Kealper> k, 1 sec
#292 [09:02] <Aiken_Drumn> yeah, didn't really buy this lappy as a gaming rig.. but i've been drawn into minecraft.. thought the graphics were pretty basic! :p
#293 [09:03] <jobotslash> well if you do get it figured out, you'll need to turn fog on for sure. mine struggles without fog on and I can play Starcraft 2 on high on here...
#294 [09:03] <Aiken_Drumn> Nvida Gforece go 7600
#295 [09:03] <Aiken_Drumn> fair enough, ill tweak the settings now an see how i go
#296 [09:04] <Kealper> the graphics are decieving though, where as standard games have static land with a few destuctable objects, there are about 8 million different destroyable blocks in any given view area
#297 [09:05] <Kealper> looking at these though, i'm not sure why it goes not responding....have you updated your drivers (audio, video) and updated java?
#298 [09:06] <jobotslash> they really are. I figured that was the reason - so many blocks being generated and onscreen at once.
#299 [09:07] <Mjiig> don't suppose anyone knows what's going on with mine?
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#301 [09:07] <slozenger> hmm, hello again
#302 [09:08] <Kealper> o.o
#303 [09:08] <slozenger> Will i have to toggle fog every time i log in?
#304 [09:08] <Kealper> uhh....go in to your settings and just enable "Fast" graphics
#305 [09:09] <slozenger> Cheers.
#306 [09:09] <slozenger> Playing away again.. no offence, but hopefully I won't be back! Thankyou :D
#307 [09:10] <Kealper> xD
#308 [09:10] <thereddeh> mc ahlpa all of the sudden got all technoey music ;p
#309 [09:10] <Kealper> orly?
#310 [09:10] <thereddeh> yeah
#311 [09:10] <thereddeh> never heard this before ;p
#312 [09:11] <Kealper> is it happy techno music? lol
#313 [09:11] <thereddeh> no its countingdowny music ;p
#314 [09:11] <Kealper> lol
#315 [09:11] <thereddeh> like something is coming
#316 [09:11] <thereddeh> ;p
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#319 [09:12] <mib_6a9w6m> does any1 has the link to the server list ?
#320 [09:12] <Kealper> mib_6a9w6m: classic or alpha?
#321 [09:12] <mib_6a9w6m> alpha
#322 [09:12] <thereddeh> finally figured out how to make a light blink when a pressureplate is pressed
#323 [09:12] <Kealper> mib_6a9w6m: there is no official one for alpha
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#325 [09:13] <mib_6a9w6m> wasnt there one in the automatic msg of this irc channel?
#326 [09:13] <Kealper> but there are a few unofficial ones, if you wanted to do though that
#327 [09:13] <mib_6a9w6m> would be great
#328 [09:13] <Kealper> mib_6a9w6m: it was in a different irc channel, i'll get it
#329 [09:13] <mib_6a9w6m> k thank you
#330 [09:13] <Kealper> http://servers.minecraftforum.net/
#331 [09:13] <mib_6a9w6m> thanks alot mister
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#333 [09:14] <Kealper> mister? that makes me feel old >.>
#334 [09:14] <thereddeh> lol
#335 [09:15] <slozenger> woop woop! made my first torch!
#336 [09:15] <thereddeh> well its better than mistress
#337 [09:15] <fogWraith> Mister Kealper, haha
#338 [09:15] <Kealper> true, true...
#339 [09:15] <slozenger> was a panic, mining awat in the dark, hoping to strike coal!
#340 [09:15] <Kealper> ugh lol
#341 [09:16] <Kealper> slozenger: it's even more fun when you're mining for coal, find some, then turn around just in time to see a creeper before you drop your coal
#342 [09:16] <thereddeh> ;p
#343 [09:17] <thereddeh> keepers not only try to kill u in the game, it almost scared me to death so many times now :(
#344 [09:17] <thereddeh> r
#345 [09:17] <slozenger> Ok, so whats the slightly dirtyier rock which just fell on me?
#346 [09:17] <thereddeh> gravel
#347 [09:17] <Mjiig> i can never run away from them :( i get confused and end up coming back in a circle
#348 [09:18] <Kealper> i've gotten pretty good at running away when i hear a sound of leaves rustling lol
#349 [09:18] <Kealper> (sound they make when they ignite)
#350 [09:18] <fogWraith> I should strike a deal with the creepers, educate and equip them with pickaxes
#351 [09:18] <Mjiig> also, twice in a row i had one standing over my head when i came out of my "home" today after the night
#352 [09:18] <thereddeh> ohh thats what i should do.. run instead of curse xD
#353 [09:19] <Mjiig> scared the life out of me twice
#354 [09:19] <Mjiig> i say home
#355 [09:19] <slozenger> I kept mning the gravel, now something is going "eughgeghg" in the darkenss! :/
#356 [09:19] <Mjiig> it's a hole in the side of a hill :)
#357 [09:20] <thereddeh> i dug out 2 entire mountains and called it home ;p
#358 [09:20] <thereddeh> im not good at architecture so i went for stealth livingquarters
#359 [09:20] <Mjiig> at least by making it big you make it impressive
#360 [09:20] <Mjiig> mines 3*10
#361 [09:21] <thereddeh> in 1 mounten i dug out a piramidshape of 28x28 ;p
#362 [09:21] <Mjiig> nice
#363 [09:21] <slozenger> arge! dudes got arrows!
#364 [09:21] <slozenger> how long til he burns in the lght?
#365 [09:21] <thereddeh> just long enough to kill ya
#366 [09:22] <slozenger> :p lol
#367 [09:22] <slozenger> an ive run out of wood/axes
#368 [09:22] <thereddeh> try swords ;p
#369 [09:22] <slozenger> how do i make one?
#370 [09:22] <thereddeh> 2 stone/iron/diamond about 1 stick
#371 [09:23] <thereddeh> above*
#372 [09:23] <thereddeh> or 2 planks if ur under 12
#373 [09:24] <Kealper> finnally... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkealper.com%2Firclogs%2F%3Fdate%3D2010-12-19
#374 [09:24] <thereddeh> man im so impressed with my light blinking when theres stuff on a pressureplate ;p
#375 [09:24] <thereddeh> theres that new music again
#376 [09:25] * Kealper guesses it's time to add an index to the irc logs
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#377 [09:27] <Mjiig> dammit just died during the night, now i'm trapped out of my hole...
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#385 [09:39] <Kealper> hmm... sehr gut, ja? http://kealper.com/irclogs/
#386 [09:39] * `` is now known as GLaDOS
#387 [09:39] <fogWraith> Mister, mister, it looks good ;D
#388 [09:39] <Kealper> still a few more things to add to it, but it's getting closer to being finished lol
#389 [09:41] <Kealper> i actually made that thing all web-standards-like...the entire design is using css lol
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#394 [09:50] <Glas> guys
#395 [09:50] <Glas> plz help me with this
#396 [09:50] <Glas> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108689
#397 [09:50] <Glas> 0 replies so far
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#399 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> server-ip=192.168.2.245
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#401 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Have nothing in your server-ip
#402 [09:51] <Kealper> really really really should edit those IPs out of that post
#403 [09:51] <Glas> lol that's the internal network ip
#404 [09:51] <Kealper> replace them with ***.***.***.*** or something
#405 [09:51] <Glas> if i put the external it just don't work
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#407 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Have no ip at all listed
#408 [09:51] <Kealper> Glas: leave it blank
#409 [09:51] <Glas> i will try that
#410 [09:51] <Kealper> it will bind all available addresses instead of just the one
#411 [09:52] <Glas> =)
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#413 [09:52] <Glas> let's see
#414 [09:52] <Kealper> and....censor the IPs from that forum post :S
#415 [09:52] <Glas> it's a local ip
#416 [09:52] <Glas> it does not harm anyone lol
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#418 [09:52] <Kealper> no, in those errors
#419 [09:52] <Glas> 2010-12-19 11:52:00 [INFO] CuboidPlugin : properties loaded
#420 [09:52] <Glas> 2010-12-19 11:52:00 [INFO] CuboidPlugin : initializing v17.9 for hMod 131+
#421 [09:52] <Glas> java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 42
#422 [09:52] <Glas> at it.b(it.java:50)
#423 [09:52] <Glas> at bi.f(SourceFile:149)
#424 [09:52] <Glas> at bi.c(SourceFile:9)
#425 [09:52] <Glas> at ir.run(SourceFile:59)
#426 [09:52] <Glas> 2010-12-19 11:52:41 [INFO] /219.74.160.80:1383 lost connection
#427 [09:52] <Glas> ~~
#428 [09:53] <Kealper> that lost connection...where the IP is
#429 [09:53] <Glas> idk, random ips at random ports appear every minte
#430 [09:53] <Glas> minute*
#431 [09:53] <Kealper> wait, those are not clients?
#432 [09:54] <Glas> o_o no
#433 [09:54] <Kealper> you're getting the back packet id 42 because those are spam bots trying to connect thinking that it's something else
#434 [09:54] <Kealper> change the port
#435 [09:54] <Glas> trying
#436 [09:56] <Glas> yee
#437 [09:56] <Glas> Kealper
#438 [09:56] <Glas> u rock <3
#439 [09:57] <Kealper> now just censor all those IPs from those forum posts...and i'll be happy lol
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#441 [09:57] <Glas> sure
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#443 [09:57] <Glas> btw
#444 [09:58] <Glas> could you teach me how to protect rooms with cuboid
#445 [09:58] <Glas> in my serveR?
#446 [09:58] * Kealper sighs
#446 [09:58] <Glas> xD only if you want
#447 [09:58] <Kealper> i guess i could...
#448 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes Uncle Kealper, teach us how to use cuboid!
#449 [09:59] <Glas> cuz i setted up the things with the shovel and sword
#450 [09:59] * Kealper sighs harder
#450 [09:59] <Glas> o_o but people can still break them
#451 [09:59] <Kealper> oh
#452 [09:59] <Peter-C> The MC website needs moar servers :/
#453 [09:59] <Kealper> you have them set as cuboids already?
#454 [09:59] <Glas> yes
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#456 [10:00] <Kealper> type /cmod cuboidname toggle protection
#457 [10:00] <Kealper> or something like that
#458 [10:00] <Kealper> where cuboidname is said cuboid's name
#459 [10:00] <Kealper> and if it's not "protection" then it's "protect" without quotes
#460 [10:00] <Glas> oh
#461 [10:00] <Glas> let me see
#462 [10:01] <Kealper> now...the day is still young, brb getting coffee
#463 [10:01] <Glas> flags : no pvp, creeper free
#464 [10:01] <Glas> allowed players o:glas
#465 [10:01] <Glas> flags : protection, no pvp, creeper free
#466 [10:01] <Glas> :3 sweet
#467 [10:01] <Kealper> GLaDOS: what'd ya change?
#468 [10:01] <Kealper> looks the same to me :S
#469 [10:02] <GLaDOS> i removed (aus)
#470 [10:02] <Kealper> ahh lol
#471 [10:02] <Kealper> anywho, coffee calls
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#477 [10:07] <demon> hello
#478 [10:07] <demon> has anyone used fraps to record a video of minecraft?
#479 [10:07] <demon> I can't seem to get it to work
#480 [10:08] <Kealper> this coffee is hot >.>
#481 [10:08] <fogWraith> Signs of oldness
#482 [10:09] <demon> anyone? =/
#483 [10:09] <Kealper> demon: can't say i've tried...
#484 [10:09] <Kealper> lemme give it a show
#485 [10:09] <Kealper> shot*
#486 [10:09] * fogWraith snickers
#486 [10:09] <demon> the thing is it doesn't set focus to the minecraft window
#487 [10:10] <Kealper> stupid muscle-memory typeing >.>
#488 [10:10] <fogWraith> Uh huh ;P
#489 [10:10] <fogWraith> What kind of show were you going to give us? ;)
#490 [10:10] <Kealper> depends how much ya pay >.>
#491 [10:10] <Glas> btw
#492 [10:10] <Glas> dos anyone know
#493 [10:10] <fogWraith> ;x
#494 [10:10] <Glas> where can i download a simple, small and nice map with 1 city?
#495 [10:11] <Peter-C> Are animals attracted to light?
#496 [10:12] <Kealper> some times it seems that way, they tend to bunch up against my doors in SP maps
#497 [10:12] <Kealper> at night that is
#498 [10:12] <Peter-C> Yea
#499 [10:13] <Kealper> demon: fraps works fine on mine
#500 [10:13] <demon> =/
#501 [10:13] <Kealper> reinstall fraps?
#502 [10:13] <demon> anything you need to do? or just start it up?
#503 [10:13] <demon> I'll try
#504 [10:13] <demon> thanks
#505 [10:13] <Kealper> i just started it, pressed record, and away it went
#506 [10:13] <demon> alright, thanks
#507 [10:15] <demon> just tried, and it didn't focus on the window
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#509 [10:15] <Kealper> now.....
#510 [10:15] <Kealper> what do you mean didn't focus on the window?
#511 [10:15] <Kealper> and are you using a super old fraps?
#512 [10:15] <demon> you know how it puts the fps overlay?
#513 [10:15] <demon> well it doesn't do that
#514 [10:16] <Kealper> hmm....are you using the browser or the stand-alone?
#515 [10:16] <Kealper> for minecraft
#516 [10:16] <demon> stand alone
#517 [10:16] <Kealper> weird....
#518 [10:16] <Kealper> i really don't know then...but it sounds like a fraps problem
#519 [10:16] <demon> what OS?
#520 [10:16] <Kealper> 7
#521 [10:16] <Kealper> x64
#522 [10:16] <demon> =/
#523 [10:16] <demon> same
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#525 [10:16] <demon> stupid fraps
#526 [10:17] <Kealper> gamecam? lol
#527 [10:17] <Kealper> free version has that ghetto watermark, but it's not bad
#528 [10:17] <demon> well if I get it i'm probably going to find a crack >.>
#529 [10:17] <demon> it works well?
#530 [10:18] <Kealper> it's hard to find a cracked one of recent versions
#531 [10:18] <demon> thing is, i know fraps works, because it focuses on another game
#532 [10:18] <Kealper> but the free one does it's job well
#533 [10:19] <demon> I'll find the crack ;)
#534 [10:19] <Kealper> demon: it could just be something with your fraps install and hooking OpenGL games
#535 [10:19] <demon> that might be it, do you know any fixes?
#536 [10:19] <demon> wait
#537 [10:19] <Kealper> nope, you tried reinstalling fraps?
#538 [10:19] <demon> maybe i have an old fraps
#539 [10:19] <demon> let me get new one =3
#540 [10:20] <Kealper> mine is 2.9.4
#541 [10:20] <Kealper> which is probably old, but it works lol
#542 [10:20] <Glas> damn i want maps
#543 [10:20] <Kealper> Glas: why not just make some quick houses in a group and then work on the other stuff like forum and such?
#544 [10:21] <Glas> i will do that <.<
#545 [10:21] <demon> oh, mine was same
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#547 [10:21] <demon> what build?
#548 [10:21] <Kealper> 7037 or something like that
#549 [10:21] <Mjiig> aren't creepres supposed to flash before they explode?
#550 [10:21] <Mjiig> *creepers
#551 [10:22] <demon> maybe my computer just doesn't like fraps =/
#552 [10:22] <demon> just installed new fraps and it works
#553 [10:23] <demon> except it likes to focus on my server window instead of my minecraft window....
#554 [10:23] <demon> any way to tell it where to focus?
#555 [10:23] <blackmonk> mhh cant reach the minecraft server :-( and notch cant fix it at the moment
#556 [10:23] <Kealper> demon: no, afaik it just does it automatically
#557 [10:23] <demon> nvm, it auto focuses
#558 [10:23] <demon> XD
#559 [10:23] <demon> thanks
#560 [10:23] <Kealper> so it works?
#561 [10:24] <demon> yup, thanks for hekp =D
#562 [10:24] <demon> help*
#563 [10:24] <Kealper> np then lol
#564 [10:24] <blackmonk> ok its back :-)
#565 [10:24] * Kealper sips coffee
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#570 [10:34] <DFC> hewooo
#571 [10:35] <Kealper> O.o
#572 [10:35] <peru> oooweh
#573 [10:35] <DFC> :3
#574 [10:35] <DFC> how long does it usually take for the key/account for minecraft to be activated?
#575 [10:37] <Kealper> should be instant
#576 [10:37] <DFC> strange
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#578 [10:37] <DFC> i think my payment has been verified
#579 [10:37] <DFC> but i am not getting any mail or anything
#580 [10:37] <DFC> how does it work usually?
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#582 [10:38] <Diablothein> Hi, I am looking for some help about purchasing.
#583 [10:39] <Kealper> it should just show up in your account as an unused key
#584 [10:39] <Kealper> Diablothein: what sort of help?
#585 [10:39] <DFC> but its not in my email
#586 [10:39] <DFC> :\
#587 [10:39] <DFC> i bought it like hours ago
#588 [10:39] <Diablothein> Well, I'm looking to purchase the game, and I can only pay in USD, how would I go about to changing the currency I am paying with from EUR to USD?
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#590 [10:40] <DFC> i think thats automatic if you are using credit cards
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#592 [10:42] <Encryped> hi kealper
#593 [10:42] <Encryped> how are u
#594 [10:42] <Diablothein> Alrighty, I'll check it out, thanks!
#595 [10:42] <Kealper> o.o
#596 [10:42] <Kealper> totally forgot about irc for a few min, sorry lol
#597 [10:43] <Kealper> i guess it's just reddit doing it's job..
#598 [10:43] <Kealper> and ello Encryped
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#600 [10:43] <Kealper> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#601 [10:43] * Kealper goes back to looking at code
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#602 [10:48] <madalynn> So, i have a problem guys :c
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#604 [10:48] <DFC> i want my minecraft now ;|
#605 [10:48] <Diablothein> Woo! Big thanks, just bought Minecraft!
#606 [10:48] <DFC> ohoh
#607 [10:48] <DFC> did you get your key already?
#608 [10:49] <DFC> or your account thingy
#609 [10:49] <DFC> cause i bought mine like 1 hour + ago and nothing is happening
#610 [10:49] <Kealper> DFC: did paypal send you a purchase reciept?
#611 [10:49] <DFC> creditcard
#612 [10:49] <Kealper> did it show on your transactions? lol
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#614 [10:49] <DFC> yep
#615 [10:49] <DFC> i called the bank
#616 [10:49] <Kealper> hmm...
#617 [10:49] <GoNZooo> I just bought a gift code for the alpha version; the payment's gone through over an hour ago and I got a receipt sent to my mail but I've received no code.
#618 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Notch put in a different credit thing-a-majig that's seperate from paypal
#619 [10:50] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: yea, noticed that on the site update
#620 [10:50] <DFC> mine got the verify by phone call thingy
#621 [10:50] <DFC> and i did verify it
#622 [10:50] <DFC> i want my code before beta
#623 [10:50] <Glas> o.o
#624 [10:50] <Glas> does NBT Forge works with multiplayer maps?
#625 [10:50] <Glas> i can only get .MCLevels
#626 [10:50] <Glas> -w-
#627 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> Dunno, last time I tried, NBT forge corrupted my maps
#628 [10:50] <Kealper> DFC: not sure how the credit card thing works, but if it works anything like paypal as far as confirming payments, it could take a while to confirm your purchase on minecraft's end
#629 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> But that was a month or two ago
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#632 [10:51] <GLaDOS> btw i am not amused
#633 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> ?
#634 [10:51] <DFC> well hopefully it processes fast enough before the game ends up in beta
#635 [10:51] <Kealper> must be late in australia right now i guess
#636 [10:51] <DFC> and i end up having purchased a beta key istnead
#637 [10:51] <GLaDOS> Glas: unless you want to open every. single. .dat, then i suggest using something else
#638 [10:51] <GLaDOS> Kealper: yep
#639 [10:52] <Glas> GLaDOS i just want to have a 128x128 map
#640 [10:52] <Glas> but OMEN is broken
#641 [10:52] * GLaDOS is now known as ``
#642 [10:53] <Kealper> Glas: alpha is way different than classic as far as maps
#643 [10:53] <GoNZooo> Are admins able to resend gift codes? Like I said, it's paid for and everything; it just didn't get sent.
#644 [10:53] <DFC> maybe its the same as in my case :\
#645 [10:53] <Glas> ye i've noticed
#646 [10:54] <Kealper> Glas: you can't restrict the size of alpha maps, or how they look when they are generated
#647 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> the latter, with a hook for the map generator..
#648 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> but that's sorta iffy
#649 [10:54] <Kealper> shush, you! lol
#650 [10:54] * GreyVulpine pffts
#650 [10:54] <Kealper> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkealper.com%2Firclogs%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.1
#651 [10:55] <Glas> Shit sucks
#652 [10:55] <Glas> it was supposed
#653 [10:55] <Glas> that i can convert mclevel to dat/folder
#654 [10:55] <Glas> with mcedit
#655 [10:55] <Glas> but it's a lie
#656 [10:55] <Kealper> damn....my css doesn't clear the validator though
#657 [10:56] <Kealper> Glas: i don't think anything can do that
#658 [10:56] <Kealper> the formats are just too different
#659 [10:56] <GoNZooo> Code got sent now, dunno if it's just a coincidence.
#660 [10:56] <Glas> So
#661 [10:56] <Glas> what tool do you suggest me
#662 [10:56] <GoNZooo> DFC: Did you get yours yet?
#663 [10:56] <Glas> to make/generate dat/foldermaps?
#664 [10:56] <DFC> nope
#665 [10:56] <DFC> not even the receipt i guess
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#667 [10:57] <Kealper> Glas: i don't even think there is a tool that can do that
#668 [10:57] <Kealper> if you absolutely require a custom map.....you can make one in MCEdit or something similar, but that would take just as long as if you were to just build it ingame
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#674 [11:06] <Peter-C> Will the MC website ever get any more servers?
#675 [11:06] <Peter-C> It would be REALLY nice if that were to happen >_>
#676 [11:07] <Kealper> Peter-C: it's on an Amazon cloud thing atm
#677 [11:07] <Kealper> it just always happens to screw up AFTER the guy that can expand said cloud for the time being goes to sleep >.>
#678 [11:08] <Peter-C> lol
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#683 [11:13] <wut> hey, I just bought the game and started minecraft alpha for the first time
#684 [11:14] <wut> I was wondering if the laggyness will go away? (Mac OS X)
#685 [11:14] <Kealper> what sort of laggyness?
#686 [11:14] <Kealper> and how long has it been running now?
#687 [11:14] <wut> it's been running for about 1 minute
#688 [11:14] <wut> and it eats my CPU like crazy
#689 [11:14] <Kealper> because there is initial lag when you first start while it generates the map
#690 [11:14] <wut> ok
#691 [11:15] <hawtre> What are the reasons for the minecraft server jar to report a permission error when trying to create tmp_chunk.dat?
#692 [11:15] <Kealper> if it still runs like crap in a few min, then there might be something fishy
#693 [11:15] <Kealper> hawtre: insufficient permissions? lol
#694 [11:15] <Kealper> what os?
#695 [11:15] <wut> Kealper: thanks, it looks like it's still generating the map since I can see more detail appear
#696 [11:15] <hawtre> Other than that
#697 [11:15] <hawtre> Ubuntu 10.10 server
#698 [11:16] <Kealper> hmm...
#699 [11:16] <hawtre> The world folder is set to 775
#700 [11:16] <hawtre> As are sub directories
#701 [11:16] <Kealper> hmmmmmm.....
#702 [11:16] * Kealper scratches his head
#702 [11:17] <Kealper> wait....
#703 [11:17] <Kealper> 775?
#704 [11:17] <hawtre> Yes
#705 [11:17] <Kealper> try 777?
#706 [11:18] <hawtre> It's 775 by default so I thought it'd be fine
#707 [11:18] <hawtre> I'll try 777
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#709 [11:18] <Jeff_> hello
#710 [11:19] <Kealper> ello
#711 [11:20] <Jeff_> hey, i was having a problem and wanted to see if anyone possibly knew what the problem was
#712 [11:20] <Kealper> quite possibly
#713 [11:21] <hawtre> Yeah, that fixed it
#714 [11:21] <hawtre> I still have another issue, however
#715 [11:21] <Jeff_> huh
#716 [11:21] <hawtre> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=108688
#717 [11:21] <hawtre> Would you be able to answer that, Kealper?
#718 [11:21] <Kealper> Jeff_: ask away? lol
#719 [11:22] <Kealper> well, it says FileNotFoundException
#720 [11:22] <Jeff_> im getting black screen in the multiplayer browser thing, never used it before but it worked like 5 min ago untill i tried to join a new server
#721 [11:22] <Kealper> meaning it was looking for that file (the one it could not generate because of permission issues) and could not find it, and it needs that
#722 [11:23] <Kealper> that tmp_chunk.dat is what the server stores all currently active/loaded chunks in
#723 [11:23] <hawtre> That error is solved now, it's the inventory issue I have now
#724 [11:23] <Kealper> oh, blank inventory?
#725 [11:23] <hawtre> Yeah
#726 [11:24] <Kealper> chmod 777 world1/players
#727 [11:24] <Jeff_> when it worked it asked me about permissions but now its not
#728 [11:24] <Kealper> Jeff_: on just that server? or all servers?
#729 [11:25] <Kealper> also, vista/7?
#730 [11:25] <Jeff_> all servers, even the 1 that was working 10 min ago
#731 [11:25] <Kealper> hmm...browser or stand-alone client?
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#733 [11:26] <Jeff_> idk if this will help...
#734 [11:26] <Jeff_> Hardware Overview:
#735 [11:26] <Jeff_> Model Name: MacBook Pro
#736 [11:26] <Jeff_> Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,1
#737 [11:26] <Jeff_> Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
#738 [11:26] <Jeff_> Processor Speed: 2.53 GHz
#739 [11:26] <Jeff_> Number Of Processors: 1
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#741 [11:26] <Jeff_> Total Number Of Cores: 2
#742 [11:26] <Jeff_> L2 Cache: 6 MB
#743 [11:26] <Jeff_> Memory: 4 GB
#744 [11:26] <Jeff_> Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
#745 [11:26] * GreyVulpine twitches
#745 [11:26] <Kealper> and have you restarted your computer in a while? something might have leaked in the vram.....and lawd paste
#746 [11:26] <Jeff_> Boot ROM Version: MBP51.007E.B05
#747 [11:27] <Jeff_> my battery is broken and it just shut off a lil while ago if that counts
#748 [11:28] <Kealper> was this after it started messing up?
#749 [11:29] <Jeff_> ive allways had occasional problems with minecraft, yesterday if i tried to do the single player my safari would just freeze up for a few min then it would say somthing about an erroe
#750 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#751 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> could you paste it at pastebin.com
#752 [11:30] <Kealper> well since you're here grey, brb food
#753 [11:30] * GreyVulpine kicks Kealper
#753 [11:30] <Jeff_> it was just saying something about an error has occurred
#754 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> If you could give us the full error report that it has, it'd help us, help you
#755 [11:31] <Jeff_> it didnt give 1
#756 [11:31] <Jeff_> i just tried to open alpha and it crashed, u want that report?
#757 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#758 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> please don't paste the whole thing here
#759 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Use www.pastebin.com
#760 [11:33] <Kealper> actually....i think i'll just take a break from everthing for like an hour or so....haven't done one of those in a few days
#761 [11:33] * Kealper plugs in guitar
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#762 [11:33] <Jeff_> http://pastebin.com/07FZWNgp
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#764 [11:38] <Jeff_> still there?
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#766 [11:44] <Jeff_> GreyVulpine?
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#769 [11:47] <Jeff_> anyone there?
#770 [11:48] <Kealper> rawr?
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#772 [11:48] <Kealper> graphics issue Jeff_
#773 [11:49] <Jeff_> how would i fix it?
#774 [11:49] <Kealper> update drivers
#775 [11:51] <Jeff_> says im up 2 date
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#777 [11:51] <Kealper> idk then, i'm not a mac person
#778 [11:52] <Jeff_> all the drivers r built in to the os so yea idk how ud fix?
#779 [11:53] <Jeff_> idk if it matters but it looks like the downloaded client works fine
#780 [11:55] <Kealper> ok back, and Jeff_ it must be something with Safari then :S
#781 [11:56] <Jeff_> crashes in firefox also
#782 [11:56] <Kealper> or it could just be that the plugin version of java hates your computer? lol
#783 [12:02] <Jeff_> must be
#784 [12:05] <DFC> gahhhh
#785 [12:05] <DFC> still no key code w/e
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#788 [12:07] <isaac> I really need help
#789 [12:07] <Kealper> i'm supposed to be taking a break right now >.>
#790 [12:07] <Kealper> what's the problem? lol
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#793 [12:07] <isaac> I created an account from a gift code and messed up the username
#794 [12:07] <Kealper> you're SOL on that one
#795 [12:07] <isaac> so I really need it changed or deleted for a refund
#796 [12:08] <Kealper> no way to change the username right now
#797 [12:08] <isaac> can I get a refund?
#798 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang.com
#799 [12:08] <Kealper> ninja'd
#800 [12:08] <Kealper> -.-
#801 [12:08] <isaac> how long does it take for them to respond. I sent an email already
#802 [12:08] <DFC> oh thats the one i need
#803 [12:08] <thereddeh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1EO4gtFhvI
#804 [12:08] <thereddeh> whoa!
#805 [12:09] <blaphmat> Hey guys, i have a question. My minecraft game wont fully load right now. i have tried both in the website and on the download, but for some reason in the past 4 days or so it just hasnt loaded, it gets stuck on the same loading screen. Anyone have any ideas? Would getting rid of the download version and downloading again help??
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#808 [12:10] <blaphmat> please?O.o
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#810 [12:11] <blaphmat> or does no one know...
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#812 [12:11] <isaac> you guys are helpful..
#813 [12:11] <Kealper> we're voluteers, no one asked us to be
#814 [12:11] <Kealper> blaphmat: what sort of loading screen?
#815 [12:12] <thereddeh> plus, its sunday, everyone in bed all hung over
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#818 [12:12] <blaphmat> kealper, it always stops at the screen where it says "Done loading" and the progress bar is VERY close to the end, but it wont finish. and it says "UPDATING MINECRAFT"
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#820 [12:12] <thereddeh> Kealper: noticed the music yet?
#821 [12:13] <Kealper> thereddeh: i have not been on minecraft yet, been trying to take a break :S
#822 [12:13] <blaphmat> isaac just be patient :P. if you sent an email, they will probably answer it when they can from monday to friday i believe...not sure though.
#823 [12:13] <Kealper> not from minecraft, but just everything in general lol
#824 [12:13] <isaac> but the thing is
#825 [12:13] <isaac> on my primary account
#826 [12:13] <isaac> i bought a gift code
#827 [12:13] <Kealper> blaphmat: do you have any antivirus or something on?
#828 [12:14] <isaac> and then made an account for my friend. I then made an account for him and used the gift code. can I get my giftcode back even if it has already been used?
#829 [12:14] <blaphmat> kealper thats a good question...i dont believe so though, since it has worked perfectly fine in the past weeks that ive fed my addiction on it xD.
#830 [12:14] <Kealper> no
#831 [12:14] <isaac> I can't?
#832 [12:14] <blaphmat> no i dont think so isaac.
#833 [12:14] <Kealper> no
#834 [12:14] <Kealper> blaphmat: hmm...weird...
#835 [12:14] <isaac> BLARG
#836 [12:14] <Kealper> as i said, SOL
#837 [12:14] <blaphmat> if you used gift cards twice, thatd be cheap O.o
#838 [12:15] <blaphmat> and theyd lose alot of money
#839 [12:15] <isaac> no no
#840 [12:15] <isaac> if the account made from it got cancelled
#841 [12:15] <Kealper> no
#842 [12:15] <isaac> could I get it back
#843 [12:15] <Kealper> see above
#844 [12:15] <blaphmat> plus, then it wouldnt be "gifting", it would be exploiting the system xD
#845 [12:15] <isaac> no it's not though
#846 [12:15] <isaac> you have a week to get refunded
#847 [12:15] <blaphmat> kealper do you think uninstalling the download version and downloading again might help??
#848 [12:15] <Kealper> you can ask for them to change the account name...but i doubt they will
#849 [12:15] <isaac> so if that account got a refund wouldn't i just be wasting my code?
#850 [12:16] <Kealper> blaphmat: could, try going to %appdata%\.minecraft\bin and delete random stuff in there :P
#851 [12:16] <Kealper> isaac: don't know, never used gift codes, support@mojang.com
#852 [12:16] <thereddeh> start with the map saves
#853 [12:16] <isaac> i'm sad.
#854 [12:17] <Kealper> lol thereddeh
#855 [12:17] <blaphmat> kealper ok ill try xD. im new to this whole community thing and i dont know about minecraft other then how to play, so thanks :P.
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#857 [12:18] <potatoe> hai
#858 [12:18] <potatoe> hai
#859 [12:18] <Kealper> alright so....i'm afk in here for a bit...i've got a guitar that wants to be touched
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#861 [12:18] <Kealper> good god i hate people like that
#862 [12:19] <blaphmat> right on, what type?
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#864 [12:19] <thereddeh> thats was so creeperish
#865 [12:19] <blaphmat> i play guitar too, i mostly use my Gibson SG '61 reissued :D. its mah babeh.
#866 [12:19] <Kealper> HAH...i wish i was that rich
#867 [12:20] <isaac> yeah seriously
#868 [12:20] <blaphmat> what do you play?
#869 [12:20] <isaac> jesus
#870 [12:20] <wafflecone> :/
#871 [12:20] <Kealper> i've got a dean performer acoustic electric, but i broke a tuning machine head on it
#872 [12:20] <Kealper> so right now i'm using a friend's old first act.....
#873 [12:20] * Kealper shudders
#873 [12:20] <blaphmat> my most expensive one is my PRS custom 24 with the bird inlays top 10 series, with a double cutaway with the desert style.
#874 [12:20] <thereddeh> just crafta new one :>
#875 [12:20] <Kealper> the dean is my most expensive :S
#876 [12:21] <blaphmat> ooowwcchhh, thats pretty bad to break it :/.
#877 [12:21] <blaphmat> have you tried bringing it to a luther?
#878 [12:21] <Kealper> the key that you turn to tune it broke off from the machine head itself
#879 [12:21] <Kealper> dropped one to many times in the right place :S
#880 [12:22] <blaphmat> that has so much suckage in the message, i think i just felt a part of my soul drift away :/. sorry to hear man
#881 [12:22] <Kealper> it sucks, because that guitar keeps it's tune so well, and it broke while i was retuning it back to standard e, so that one string was out of tune and could not be retuned
#882 [12:23] <wafflecone> soooo
#883 [12:23] <Kealper> all i have to say....is first act...lawd....shitty
#884 [12:23] <blaphmat> agh, i hate it when its TOO good.
#885 [12:23] <Kealper> alrighty, an Audioslave song is calling....afk
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#887 [12:24] <blaphmat> haha alright, see yah man, thanks for the help.
#888 [12:24] <Jeff_> are there any good servers that anyone knows?
#889 [12:24] <blaphmat> nope, i dont do multi player :/. im sure if you searched around on google or youtube you could find some hough, jeff
#890 [12:26] <Jeff_> yea im looking around but its always so laggy
#891 [12:26] <blaphmat> i cant help you with the lag stuff man :/.
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#894 [12:28] <Kealper> alrighty....song done
#895 [12:28] <Kealper> Jeff_: laggy now? laggy what?
#896 [12:28] <Kealper> how*
#897 [12:29] <Kealper> not sure where the n came from >.>
#898 [12:29] <Jeff_> ping is bad
#899 [12:29] <Kealper> oh...
#900 [12:30] <Kealper> find a server that is hosted near you? :P
#901 [12:30] <wut> hey guys, I'm just getting started and all I have is some flowers, meat, and cow hide
#902 [12:30] <wut> how do I get tools and/or weapons?
#903 [12:30] <wut> (playing single player alpha btw)
#904 [12:30] <Kealper> craft them
#905 [12:30] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_959953&feature=iv&v=7MqkEZn8pN4
#906 [12:31] <Kealper> highly recommended to watch that whole thing if you have not done so already
#907 [12:31] <wut> thanks :)
#908 [12:31] <isaac> can I have some tnt?
#909 [12:32] <Kealper> eh?
#910 [12:32] <Kealper> lol
#911 [12:32] <isaac> eh
#912 [12:32] <isaac> raddafiskie joke
#913 [12:32] <wut> also, how come I don't see the Sun?
#914 [12:32] <isaac> nvm lol
#915 [12:32] <wut> I've been playing for 30 mins and I haven't seen the night
#916 [12:32] <Kealper> wut: wut?
#917 [12:32] <wut> Kealper: I've been playing single player on normal difficulty and I haven't see the "night"
#918 [12:32] <wut> it hasn't been dark
#919 [12:32] <isaac> lucky
#920 [12:33] <wut> all I see is a grey sky
#921 [12:33] <Kealper> are you sure you are playing alpha? lol
#922 [12:33] <Kealper> O.o
#923 [12:33] <Kealper> screenshot?
#924 [12:33] <wut> how do I take one?
#925 [12:33] <Kealper> upload it to http://imgur.com
#926 [12:33] <Kealper> press the Prnt Scrn button on your keyboard
#927 [12:33] <Kealper> go in to Paint, and then hold ctrl and press v
#928 [12:34] <Kealper> release the two keys and the image will appear
#929 [12:34] <Kealper> save image, upload to imgur
#930 [12:34] <wut> oh shit, nevermind
#931 [12:34] <isaac> lol
#932 [12:34] <wut> it's getting very dark
#933 [12:34] <Kealper> lol
#934 [12:36] <thereddeh> http://i52.tinypic.com/axlkec.png look a working computer :x
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#936 [12:37] <Kealper> that ram is epic
#937 [12:38] <thereddeh> :p
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#939 [12:39] <Kealper> omg my guitar just fell off the bed
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#941 [12:39] <Kealper> meh...it was only the first act....
#942 [12:40] <_pg_> is this the place for server help?
#943 [12:40] <Kealper> possibly
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#945 [12:41] <_pg_> I have a server up, when I try to connect I get www.paste.ubuntu.com/545673
#946 [12:41] <_pg_> and the client gets an "end of stream" error
#947 [12:42] <Kealper> TIL ubuntu runs a pastebin
#948 [12:42] <_pg_> TIL?
#949 [12:42] <Kealper> Today I Learned
#950 [12:42] <_pg_> lol
#951 [12:42] <Kealper> is everything up to date?
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#953 [12:44] <_pg_> well the server is as up to date as it can get afaik. checking manually for java updates in osx escapes me
#954 [12:44] <Kealper> terminal > java -version
#955 [12:44] <isaac> there is a terminal version of mc?
#956 [12:44] <Kealper> no
#957 [12:44] <isaac> oh
#958 [12:45] <Kealper> that's to check the java version
#959 [12:45] <isaac> oh i see
#960 [12:45] <isaac> im out
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#962 [12:45] <_pg_> 1.5.0_19-b02-306
#963 [12:46] <Kealper> O.o
#964 [12:46] <Kealper> that's OLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLD
#965 [12:46] <wut> wow, good thing I bought this game after my exams and not before
#966 [12:46] <Kealper> wut: yeah, it's a lifekiller
#967 [12:46] <_pg_> well the server is ppc and on 10.4.11 so maybe it cant get any newer? im not sure. whats current?
#968 [12:46] <Kealper> hours seem like minutes
#969 [12:47] <Kealper> 1.6.0_23
#970 [12:47] <_pg_> wow
#971 [12:47] <Kealper> minecraft is only confirmed working on 1.6+
#972 [12:47] <_pg_> i tried java -update and no go. how can i manually update it in terminal
#973 [12:47] <wut> I'm surviving the night by hiding in a hole that I dug
#974 [12:48] <wut> is there any use for dirt?
#975 [12:48] <Kealper> pg what os? 9 or x?
#976 [12:48] <Kealper> wut: to craft with, no
#977 [12:48] <_pg_> x, 10.4.11 g3 iMac lol 512 ram
#978 [12:49] <wut> how do I throw out useless items?
#979 [12:49] <Kealper> uhh.... i don't even think that's enough to run mc on
#980 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> wut - q
#981 [12:49] <Kealper> wut: drag it out of your inventory
#982 [12:49] <Kealper> or q
#983 [12:49] <Kealper> dragging lets you throw the whole stack on the ground though
#984 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> True
#985 [12:49] <wut> thanks
#986 [12:50] <_pg_> Kealper: just as dedicated server
#987 [12:50] <_pg_> for 3 people
#988 [12:50] <Kealper> ehh....that'd be pushing it....lol
#989 [12:50] <Kealper> the server is a royal ram hog
#990 [12:51] <Kealper> so...have you tried going to http://java.com and seeing what they have for that?
#991 [12:52] <_pg_> Kealper: i will try that next. how much ram is acceptable as s minimum for 3 people
#992 [12:53] <Kealper> i used to run it at 256mb allocated, and it seemed to do fine for just a few people, but it was pushing it
#993 [12:53] <_pg_> well i can give it 300 on the g3 safely. and java.com says "Apple supplies their own version of Java. "
#994 [12:54] <_pg_> and there is no where to download it for osx. grrrr
#995 [12:55] <Kealper> O.o
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#997 [12:55] <Kealper> apple update? lol
#998 [12:55] <Kealper> i'm fairly useless when it comes to osx
#999 [12:55] <_pg_> apparently so i s java lol
#1000 [12:55] <Kealper> xD
#1001 [12:56] <Kyto> hi
#1002 [12:56] <Kyto> I have a problem
#1003 [12:56] <_pg_> apples is usually behind the curve for java. they are going to stop supplying their own version soon
#1004 [12:56] <Kyto> I seem to fly out of smp after just few seconds from connecting
#1005 [12:56] * _pg_ is brb afk
#1005 [12:56] <Kyto> well the time varies from few seconds to few minutes
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#1007 [12:57] <wut> how do I pickup my work bench?
#1008 [12:57] <Kealper> break it
#1009 [12:57] <Kealper> Kyto: as in DC from it?
#1010 [12:57] <_pg_> whats the minimum internet connection then? maybe i can do this another way.
#1011 [12:57] <wut> Mac OS X people: do you recommend the official Oracle JVM for better performance?
#1012 [12:57] <Kyto> Kealper: yes
#1013 [12:57] <Kealper> _pg_: usually around 10KB/s per user once they have the map loaded
#1014 [12:58] <Kyto> with different error messages :E
#1015 [12:58] <Kyto> usually java socketexceptions
#1016 [12:58] <wut> I survived the first night easily
#1017 [12:58] <Kealper> Kyto: what os are you and the server running?
#1018 [12:58] <Tu13es> wut: does it run like crap for you?
#1019 [12:58] <Tu13es> it does for me, i'm on a mac
#1020 [12:58] <wut> Tu13es: yeah
#1021 [12:58] <wut> every couple seconds it freezes for a bit
#1022 [12:58] <Kyto> mine is windows xp pro x86 and server is unix (debian I guess)
#1023 [12:58] <Tu13es> yeah, same here
#1024 [12:59] <Tu13es> well, good to know it's not just me
#1025 [12:59] <wut> Tu13es: I just started a few minutes ago though
#1026 [12:59] <wut> so I'm guessing it's building up the world as I play
#1027 [12:59] <Kealper> Kyto: no idea then...i suck at anything that is not windows
#1028 [12:59] <wut> so hopefully it finishes soon
#1029 [12:59] <Kyto> it is not a server problem
#1030 [12:59] <Kyto> other people play there without any problems
#1031 [12:59] <Kealper> oh
#1032 [12:59] <Kealper> update drivers/java?
#1033 [13:00] <Jeff_> u know if there will be an update tomorrow?
#1034 [13:00] <Kealper> maybe....
#1035 [13:00] <Kyto> I have updated
#1036 [13:00] <Kealper> like 3 people at Mojang were out sick most of the week
#1037 [13:00] <Kealper> including Notch
#1038 [13:01] <Jeff_> but beta is tomorrow, ud think therd be somthing new that came with it
#1039 [13:01] <thereddeh> btw is there a way to download a single player creative mode clientthing?
#1040 [13:01] <Kealper> Kyto: no idea then
#1041 [13:01] <Kyto> aww :(
#1042 [13:01] <Kealper> Jeff_: just because it goes into beta doesn't mean that there will be an update to celebrate it
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#1044 [13:02] <Jeff_> yes i know that but didnt he still have some things on his list that hed do before beta such as multiplayer improvements
#1045 [13:02] <Kyto> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset
#1046 [13:02] <Kyto> :e
#1047 [13:03] <Kealper> sounds like something is unstable with either your internet, or the lines going to your server..figuring how you said you didn't know what the server was running exactly, i take it that means it was in a datacenter
#1048 [13:04] <Kyto> well tbh it cannot be a connection problem
#1049 [13:04] <Phil> Hey guys, anyone know why I'm getting a blue screen of death while playing SMP? Tried updating my card drivers, still no luck. Single player runs fine.
#1050 [13:04] <Kyto> because the same machine has other servers that work fine for me
#1051 [13:04] <Kyto> for other games
#1052 [13:04] <Kealper> Phil: no idea
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#1055 [13:12] <Bigeagle> how do i change the difficulty at the server? client side changes don't affect it
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#1058 [13:16] <Kealper> NOES!
#1059 [13:16] <Kealper> guitar cord is breaking :S
#1060 [13:16] <Kealper> guess i'm done with guitar for the day then
#1061 [13:18] <_pg_> Kealper: I found someone who makes java for ppc 10.4 macs up to 1.6. its called soylatte ima try it out
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#1063 [13:19] <Kealper> O.o
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#1071 [13:32] <Kealper> <random><stalker>pg you are like....not far from where i live at all</stalker></random>
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#1078 [13:46] <Peter-C> OH COME ON
#1079 [13:46] <Peter-C> My whole roof just got blown up >_>
#1080 [13:46] <Nikolito> so guys, I have a solution to the broken "/kill" command
#1081 [13:46] <Nikolito> Or at least its dastardly aftereffects
#1082 [13:47] <Nikolito> Care to hear?
#1083 [13:47] <Kealper> uhh...don't use it for now? lol
#1084 [13:47] <Nikolito> Well listen
#1085 [13:47] <Kealper> it seems to totally rape the player's dat file
#1086 [13:47] <Nikolito> If you use the command, and your player gets fucked
#1087 [13:47] <Nikolito> Yeah
#1088 [13:47] <Nikolito> just -
#1089 [13:47] <Nikolito> oh
#1090 [13:47] <Nikolito> right, well
#1091 [13:47] <Nikolito> Just delete the dat file
#1092 [13:47] <Kealper> i'm in here a lot :P
#1093 [13:48] <Nikolito> In the server
#1094 [13:48] <Nikolito> and you respawn -
#1095 [13:48] <Nikolito> Lol
#1096 [13:48] <Nikolito> kay, well
#1097 [13:48] <Nikolito> just figured it out in my little community circle thing
#1098 [13:48] <Nikolito> So -
#1099 [13:48] <Nikolito> uh
#1100 [13:48] <Nikolito> yeah
#1101 [13:48] <Nikolito> bye
#1102 [13:48] <Kealper> you could use NBTEdit to modify DeathTime and Health back to 0 and 20 respectively
#1103 [13:48] <Kealper> lol
#1104 [13:48] <Nikolito> Oh,
#1105 [13:48] <Nikolito> kay
#1106 [13:48] <Nikolito> lol
#1107 [13:49] <Nikolito> Though, playing as the ghost has some perks, and you can still pick things up out of boxes and such
#1108 [13:49] <Kealper> indeed lol
#1109 [13:50] <Nikolito> I just thought that was really cool, because it can be useful - but - *tear*
#1110 [13:53] <wut> omg
#1111 [13:53] <wut> I found a huge hole
#1112 [13:53] <wut> should I go into it?
#1113 [13:53] <Nikolito> Absolutely
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#1119 [14:01] <lemon-rev> ok so its the 20ths for us aussie people, do we have to wait till 21st to get update ?
#1120 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> It'll be out when Notch says it'll come out
#1121 [14:01] <lemon-rev> lol
#1122 [14:01] <lemon-rev> np
#1123 [14:01] <lemon-rev> :)
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#1129 [14:15] <wut> here can I find diamond ore?
#1130 [14:15] <Kealper> near lava/bottom of map
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#1132 [14:16] <wut> all my world seems to have is grass, water, some coal, some oil
#1133 [14:16] <Kealper> oil? lol
#1134 [14:16] <wut> maybe not
#1135 [14:16] <wut> what should I do?
#1136 [14:16] <wut> just keep mining down?
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#1138 [14:16] <Kealper> indeed
#1139 [14:18] <wut> so I will find better things?
#1140 [14:18] <lemon-rev> eventually
#1141 [14:18] <lemon-rev> yes
#1142 [14:19] <lemon-rev> but it depends if you find caves or you just tunnel forever :P
#1143 [14:19] <lemon-rev> and yes there is a limit to how far down you go :P
#1144 [14:19] <wut> hmm
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#1146 [14:19] <wut> should I look for caves or should I just tunnel around?
#1147 [14:20] <lemon-rev> totally up to you
#1148 [14:20] <lemon-rev> thats what minecrafts all about, freedom to do what its that makes you happy
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#1152 [14:22] <wut> well, I'd like to find some cool stuff and not just mine 12h/day for cobblestone :P
#1153 [14:23] <DFC> argharsgasg
#1154 [14:23] <lemon-rev> well no ones not even me is going to know what your going to come across
#1155 [14:23] <DFC> still no minecraft code..
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#1157 [14:23] <lemon-rev> but it wont take you 12 hours to find nothing
#1158 [14:23] <wut> lemon-rev: what if we join the same server?
#1159 [14:27] <lemon-rev> could do
#1160 [14:27] <lemon-rev> why
#1161 [14:28] <lemon-rev> what you wanta do
#1162 [14:28] <wut> make a castle and get some weapons
#1163 [14:28] <lemon-rev> lol
#1164 [14:29] <lemon-rev> how long you been playing minecraft wut
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#1168 [14:32] <Lanida> Hello. I have some trouble playing LAN with my m8s, over a server on my pc. Were using hamachi, and i can log on the server, but my friends cant.
#1169 [14:33] <Lanida> Anyone got any idea of how to fix it?
#1170 [14:33] <Lanida> I have no firewalls on
#1171 [14:34] <wut> lemon-rev: about 1 hour
#1172 [14:34] <lemon-rev> dude
#1173 [14:34] <lemon-rev> you get no where in 1 hour
#1174 [14:34] <lemon-rev> you get like some weapons and maybe a small room to sit out on first night
#1175 [14:34] <lemon-rev> it takes time
#1176 [14:34] <wut> lemon-rev: it's the night and I hae no light
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#1178 [14:35] <lemon-rev> well collect some sand or dirt and jump and put it under you and mkake huge tower till light
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#1180 [14:35] <lemon-rev> other wise your dead :P, but you can try fighting back, it can be fun but only for those who make it fun
#1181 [14:35] <wut> I'm in a cave right now
#1182 [14:36] <lemon-rev> oh
#1183 [14:36] <lemon-rev> hm
#1184 [14:36] <lemon-rev> so you have weapons
#1185 [14:36] <wut> I could make some cobble stone weapons
#1186 [14:36] <lemon-rev> well that would help greatly in your exploration
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#1188 [14:37] <lemon-rev> but you need to get top side if you want to get food, and only if you want food
#1189 [14:37] <wut> how far down can I dig?
#1190 [14:38] <lemon-rev> as far as the game lets you , you get to this black type rock you cant dig though
#1191 [14:38] <lemon-rev> thats pritty much it, when you hit tha
#1192 [14:40] <wut> lemon-rev: this iw hat I have: http://imgur.com/GTSmD
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#1194 [14:41] <lemon-rev> well it looks like you got the makings of a good start
#1195 [14:41] <lemon-rev> maybe create 1 to 2 swords with the sticks you got,
#1196 [14:41] <lemon-rev> with the stone
#1197 [14:41] <lemon-rev> to fight monsters
#1198 [14:42] <lemon-rev> but you have to work out what it is you really want to do, keep digging, or go topside when its light and build on top there or something
#1199 [14:42] <wut> in multiplayer, can you trade stuff?
#1200 [14:43] <lemon-rev> yup
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#1202 [14:44] <lemon-rev> sorry i cant stick around, goto get self out door now, wut but have a good day playing
#1203 [14:49] <wut> thanks for th ehelp
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#1205 [14:52] <Maverick_001> Good evening
#1206 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1208 [14:52] <Maverick_001> I don't suppose anyone knows anything about the minecraft forums?
#1209 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#1210 [14:53] <GoMySQL> Minecraft constantly blackscreens when on SMP Servers. No one else on my server is complaining about this. There aren't any errors that I can show off.. is this normal? I'm talking blackscreening every 2-10 minutes.
#1211 [14:53] <fork> they are ripe for trolling~
#1212 [14:54] <Maverick_001> Well, every time i try to look at a topic i get a...502? error. I can see and get on the forum...but no topics...
#1213 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah, clear your cookies
#1214 [14:54] <Maverick_001> Aha, cookies of course!
#1215 [14:54] <Maverick_001> I'll try that
#1216 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> And the blackscreen thing is pretty common.
#1217 [14:55] <GoMySQL> Oh, and to top it off.. the issue is worse with the default textures than it is using a higher quality pack :/
#1218 [14:55] <GoMySQL> WTB Minecraft client not written in java. heh
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#1221 [15:00] <thereddeh> man i so hope he includes freebuild in beta :x
#1222 [15:01] <Maverick_001> Awesome, that's worked. Thanks!
#1223 [15:02] <wut> OMG
#1224 [15:02] <wut> my mine just flooded
#1225 [15:03] <wut> what do I do now?
#1226 [15:03] <wut> abandon it?
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#1228 [15:03] <Kealper> build a cornish pump
#1229 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Find where it leaked, plug it?
#1230 [15:03] <Skoshuke> Burn it!
#1231 [15:03] <Skoshuke> Somehow...
#1232 [15:03] <wut> GreyVulpine: how do I plug it?
#1233 [15:03] <thereddeh> craft corks\
#1234 [15:04] <wut> can I build a hydroelectric damn?
#1235 [15:04] <wut> how do I make corks?
#1236 [15:04] <wut> dam rather
#1237 [15:04] <Kealper> look for where the leak is coming from, and stick some dirt in the hole
#1238 [15:04] <wut> I accidentally dug up into a lake
#1239 [15:04] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1239 [15:04] <Kealper> lol
#1240 [15:04] <thereddeh> lol
#1241 [15:04] <Skoshuke> Nice one.
#1242 [15:05] <wut> thanks, I plugged it up
#1243 [15:05] <thereddeh> did u use cork?
#1244 [15:05] <wut> dirt
#1245 [15:05] <thereddeh> doh! that wont hold!
#1246 [15:06] <wut> really?
#1247 [15:06] <wut> how long do I have
#1248 [15:06] <thereddeh> omg yeah!
#1249 [15:06] <wut> and what do I need to craft cork?
#1250 [15:06] <thereddeh> get it from a corktree
#1251 [15:06] * GreyVulpine snickers
#1251 [15:06] <wut> for real guys?
#1252 [15:06] <wut> is dirt good enough?
#1253 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1254 [15:06] <thereddeh> then make a diamondshape with clay in the middle
#1255 [15:07] <wut> ok thanks
#1256 [15:07] <thereddeh> ;p
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#1258 [15:07] <Jarvis> Hay I have a question
#1259 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> We may have the answer
#1260 [15:08] <thereddeh> i might pretend to and lie
#1261 [15:08] <Jarvis> When ever I try to launch it I get this error: The registry refers to a nonexistent Java runtime Environment installtion or the runtime is corrupted. The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is inncorrect
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#1263 [15:08] <Kealper> reinstall java
#1264 [15:08] <Kealper> http://java.com
#1265 [15:08] <Jarvis> Ok I will give it a try
#1266 [15:08] <thereddeh> if that doesnt work, use cork
#1267 [15:09] * GreyVulpine kicks thereddeh
#1267 [15:09] <Kealper> lol
#1268 [15:09] <thereddeh> :(
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#1272 [15:13] <wut> if I keep digging and get to dirt, does that mean I shouldn't dig further down?
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#1275 [15:19] <wut> omg
#1276 [15:19] <wut> just dug into a cave
#1277 [15:20] <Kealper> it happens
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#1279 [15:22] <Xavier> hi
#1280 [15:22] <Xavier> can someone help me install firemark's cartographer?
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#1282 [15:23] <Kealper> this isn't the place to ask about 3d party software :S
#1283 [15:23] <Xavier> oh :(
#1284 [15:23] <Coll> it also should have a very simple read me that explains how
#1285 [15:24] <Coll> if you cant figure it out it probably would be best that you dont use it
#1286 [15:24] <Kealper> but off the record, it should just be copy to folder, run exe, ???, profit
#1287 [15:24] <Kealper> and what Coll said
#1288 [15:24] <Xavier> kealper, I'm on linux
#1289 [15:24] <Kealper> run under wine? lol
#1290 [15:24] <Coll> hahaha
#1291 [15:24] <Xavier> wine cant install visual c++
#1292 [15:24] <Kealper> O.o
#1293 [15:24] <Xavier> :/
#1294 [15:25] <Kealper> you don;t need to install the ide
#1295 [15:25] <Xavier> i know
#1296 [15:25] <Kealper> does it have a compiled binary with it? just run that
#1297 [15:25] <Coll> it amuses me so when I see a linux user having trouble accomplishing something another OS can do simply
#1298 [15:25] <Xavier> :P Coll
#1299 [15:25] <Kealper> Coll: that's why i say linux is garbage as a desktop os :S
#1300 [15:25] <yoshiistar> how do you guys find servers to play in?
#1301 [15:25] <Kealper> too hard to use
#1302 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> yoshiistar - Either look in the forums, or #smp
#1303 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Or.. make your own
#1304 [15:26] <yoshiistar> oh just curious
#1305 [15:26] <yoshiistar> i started minecraft today
#1306 [15:26] * GreyVulpine has his own
#1306 [15:26] <Xavier> I'm going to move to windows 8 when beta cfomes out
#1307 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Kealper, has his own
#1308 [15:26] <Coll> wtf windows 8?
#1309 [15:26] <Kealper> indeed
#1310 [15:26] <Xavier> yes
#1311 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure a bunch of other people have their own, running off of their own personal connection, or a VPS/dedicated
#1312 [15:26] <Kealper> announced shortly after 7 came out
#1313 [15:26] <Coll> what is wrong with windows 7? just dual boot and youll be good to go
#1314 [15:26] <yoshiistar> is it better playing with other people/
#1315 [15:26] <Coll> or learn to use linux like a boss
#1316 [15:27] <wut> guys, do caves have anything good in them?
#1317 [15:27] <Xavier> ^ what im trying to do
#1318 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1319 [15:27] <Kealper> yoshiistar: it can be more fun, multiplayer is like a co-op mode
#1320 [15:27] <feenyx> caves have all the good stuff
#1321 [15:27] <Coll> wut find out
#1322 [15:27] <feenyx> coal, diamonds, redstone
#1323 [15:27] <wut> or should I Just keep digging elsewhere?
#1324 [15:27] <wut> GreyVulpine: yes?
#1325 [15:27] <Xavier> diamonds
#1326 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> More ore in caves
#1327 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Easier to get around in
#1328 [15:27] <feenyx> and creepers
#1329 [15:27] <wut> Coll: there was a monster in there
#1330 [15:27] <wut> I'm making some armor and weapons first before I go back
#1331 [15:27] <Coll> so is notch making another game or somehting?
#1332 [15:27] <Xavier> just bring a bow and pwn them all
#1333 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> He did for LD19
#1334 [15:27] <Kealper> wut: yea, you might want to go collect 24 cowhides to make some leather armor with before you go cave exploring
#1335 [15:28] <Xavier> or go in peacefull mode *.*
#1336 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Or is..
#1337 [15:28] <yoshiistar> do you guys use mumble
#1338 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, mumble.
#1339 [15:28] <Kealper> eew
#1340 [15:28] <yoshiistar> lol
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#1342 [15:28] <yoshiistar> vent?
#1343 [15:28] <Kealper> i set up one of those servers for about 5 sec....
#1344 [15:28] <Kealper> i used to use vent, i don't really voice chat anymore
#1345 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I actually prefer TS over vent
#1346 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> But haven't used either in a few months now
#1347 [15:29] <yoshiistar> isee
#1348 [15:29] <Kealper> tbh i like that ts can have up to 1000 users without paying, but vent does sound much better
#1349 [15:29] <Kealper> the whole 8 slot server deal unless you rent it sucks
#1350 [15:29] <wut> Kealper: I'll make armor from iron ores
#1351 [15:29] <yoshiistar> do you guys reddit
#1352 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried the newest TS client?
#1353 [15:29] <Kealper> wut: you could do that too lol
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#1355 [15:29] <Kealper> ts3? no..is it worth it?
#1356 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Bit better in terms of GUI
#1357 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Still going through some development though
#1358 [15:30] <Kealper> hmm....i might go check it out if i don't forget lol
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#1360 [15:32] <yoshiistar> what are you guys doing?
#1361 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Just got done whacking some zombies in the head.
#1362 [15:33] <Kealper> i'm staring at an mmo..lol
#1363 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Got two friends hooked on L4D2, showing them the ropes.
#1364 [15:33] <yoshiistar> im scared of the monsters
#1365 [15:34] <yoshiistar> a green monster just blew up on me
#1366 [15:34] <yoshiistar> and i almost died
#1367 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> One's not much of an FPS fan, and the other has no experience with FPSs...
#1368 [15:34] <yoshiistar> ...
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#1370 [15:35] <Jarvis> Kealper: It loaded it and it downloaded the files but then it closed itself
#1371 [15:36] <Kealper> O.o
#1372 [15:36] <Kealper> no idea on that one, sounds like java crashed :S
#1373 [15:36] <eam> whenever I start minecraft any custom keymappings are reset to defaults. This is a new problem. I'm on OSX. Anyone seen this?
#1374 [15:36] <yoshiistar> can zombies climb fences?
#1375 [15:36] <Jarvis> no
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#1378 [15:37] <wut> I found lava
#1379 [15:38] <yoshiistar> where?
#1380 [15:38] <wut> what do I do now?
#1381 [15:38] <wut> in the cave
#1382 [15:38] <wut> I kept digging and got to lava
#1383 [15:38] <yoshiistar> oh
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#1385 [15:38] <wut> what do i do with it?
#1386 [15:39] <Kealper> leave it if you don't have an empty bucket
#1387 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> What do you want to do with it
#1388 [15:39] <Jarvis> Kealper, do you haveany idea how to fix it?
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#1390 [15:39] <wut> Kealper: can I make a bucket?
#1391 [15:39] <Kealper> rawr!!!!
#1392 [15:40] <Kealper> Jarvis: no, not offhand :S
#1393 [15:40] <Kealper> wut: you can, but you need iron
#1394 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Wut - You know there's a wiki for minecraft, with all the information you could possibly need for it here: minecraftwiki.net/
#1395 [15:40] <yoshiistar> does anyone play HON?
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#1397 [15:41] <wut> thanks guys
#1398 [15:41] <yoshiistar> wut: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#1399 [15:42] <eam> where does minecraft save the options data?
#1400 [15:44] <Jarvis> In the .minecraft in %appdata%?
#1401 [15:45] <eam> where's that?
#1402 [15:46] <yoshiistar> OMGGGGG
#1403 [15:46] <yoshiistar> so i just died and i spwned and it's all dark
#1404 [15:46] <yoshiistar> iono where my house is
#1405 [15:46] <eam> there's no ~/.minecraft
#1406 [15:46] <yoshiistar> and theres zombies everywhere
#1407 [15:46] <yoshiistar> asdkfm
#1408 [15:46] <yoshiistar> what do i do!?
#1409 [15:47] <yoshiistar> WTF
#1410 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> eam - What OS?
#1411 [15:48] <eam> looks like ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft
#1412 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> On Mac, yes.
#1413 [15:48] <eam> GreyVulpine: OSX
#1414 [15:49] <wut> OMG
#1415 [15:49] <wut> I'm down to half a heart
#1416 [15:49] <wut> these guys ganged up on me
#1417 [15:49] <wut> I can't lose what I have now
#1418 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Got enough wood for a chest?
#1419 [15:49] <wut> yeah
#1420 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Then make one
#1421 [15:50] <eam> interesting - options.txt is not being read on startup
#1422 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1423 [15:51] <eam> after I exit it saves with the keybindings I set up, but when minecraft starts it overwrites it with defaults
#1424 [15:51] <eam> I take it this is not a known bug?
#1425 [15:51] <wut> thanks for the chest idea
#1426 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... eam, have you played online yet?
#1427 [15:51] <eam> yeah I've been playing for a while this is a new problem
#1428 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> There is.. or was a corrupt options.txt bug before..
#1429 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if it was fixed yet
#1430 [15:52] <eam> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=105403
#1431 [15:52] <eam> that's exactly what I'm hitting
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#1433 [15:53] <Sewil> Test
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#1435 [15:54] * GreyVulpine pongs
#1435 [15:54] <Sewil> I have a question,
#1436 [15:54] <eam> If you haven't accessed multiplayer since the bug was introduced, you're missing the "lastServer" line. That's what causes the game to not load the key bindings (which are after that line) properly.
#1437 [15:54] <eam> bam
#1438 [15:54] <Sewil> why are the Minecraft cubes so goddamn big?
#1439 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1440 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Also was reported here
#1441 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/the_default_lastserver_value_in_options_txt_should_be_the_local_broadcast_ip
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#1444 [15:56] <eam> yeah that totally fixed it. Haven't played multiplayer in a few weeks
#1445 [15:56] <eam> thanks all
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#1450 [16:09] <Reactions> hi
#1451 [16:09] <Reactions> If you SSH into your server, how are you able to do commands in the commandline window?
#1452 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Don't see why not.
#1453 [16:09] <Reactions> like to stop the server etc
#1454 [16:09] <Reactions> I've never really used SSH
#1455 [16:09] <Reactions> I just thought the only thing you could do was move copy files?
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#1458 [16:10] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1458 [16:10] <Jarvis> ;o
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#1460 [16:17] <hawtre> What would cause everyone to be disconnected from the server, and have the world revert to an earlier state?
#1461 [16:18] <Jarvis> ;o
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#1465 [16:22] <jDodson99> Do I have to do anything special to exit my server without losing everything?
#1466 [16:22] <jDodson99> Jw, because I exited my server earlier today and I couldn't find where my buildings were
#1467 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> "save-on" to enable saving, then "save-all" to force a save at that time
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#1469 [16:23] <jDodson99> So I have to turn off my server, lose all my saved stuff, to enable saving?
#1470 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> No
#1471 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Just type it in the console right now
#1472 [16:23] <jDodson99> kkl
#1473 [16:23] <jDodson99> *kk
#1474 [16:24] <jDodson99> Yay.
#1475 [16:24] <clive> hi, a friend of mine just bought me minecraft as an xmas gift, but I'm unable to get it to run, on startup (right after login) it does this: http://pastie.org/1390276 -- I'm on ubuntu using sun jre 6 -- any ideas?
#1476 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, lwjgl error?
#1477 [16:24] <jDodson99> I have no idae how, but I found a freaking AWESOME natural cave with BUTTLOADS of coal and iron, and then I realized I didn't know how to save... So yeah, I'm happy.
#1478 [16:25] <jDodson99> Is there a way to change where you spawn, or does that require a plugin?
#1479 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> clive - You sure you're running the latest version of sun/oracle java?
#1480 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - With a map editor yes.
#1481 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> I recommend MCedit for alpha maps
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#1483 [16:26] <clive> % java -version
#1484 [16:26] <clive> java version "1.6.0_22"
#1485 [16:26] <clive> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#1486 [16:26] <clive> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#1487 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1488 [16:26] <clive> (sorry for the long paste, unsure what "latest version" would be, i don't use java often)
#1489 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> When do you get this error? This looks like a java console output
#1490 [16:27] <clive> I get that output in the console where I launch the game
#1491 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> In the browser?
#1492 [16:27] <clive> no, i downloaded the jar file
#1493 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1494 [16:28] <clive> java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1495 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Try a more verbose method?
#1496 [16:28] <clive> .. it then asks me to login, and then it crashes
#1497 [16:28] <clive> (the first time it downloaded a whole lot of stuff into ~/.minecraft)
#1498 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, delete the /.minecraft folder and try again
#1499 [16:31] <clive> GreyVulpine: i've done that about 5/6 times before coming to ask on IRC ;)
#1500 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#1501 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Does it download a bunch of files in /.minecraft, /.minecraft/bin ?
#1502 [16:33] <clive> last part of verbose run looks like this: http://pastie.org/1390321
#1503 [16:33] <clive> yes, there's a few files in each of those directories
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#1505 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Do you have lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar, minecraft.jar, jinput.jar in the /bin folder?
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#1507 [16:35] <clive> yes
#1508 [16:35] <jDodson99> I've tried a bunch of things but I can't figure out how I'm supposed to open MCedit
#1509 [16:35] <jDodson99> (I'm on a mac)
#1510 [16:36] <clive> also a folder called 'natives' and a file named 'version'
#1511 [16:36] <jDodson99> Are there any other good map editors you would reccoment?
#1512 [16:36] <jDodson99> *reccomend
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#1515 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Did you get MCedit from the minecraft forums?
#1516 [16:39] <barrycarlyon> Technical question, is level.dat supposed to containts a player entity entry for all connected players. As I can only decode one from it.
#1517 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> barrycarlyon - For alpha?
#1518 [16:39] <barrycarlyon> Yup.
#1519 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Look in world/players/
#1520 [16:40] <barrycarlyon> I have.
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#1522 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Each player.dat file in there contains your player's entity info, including position and inventory
#1523 [16:40] <barrycarlyon> I'm asking as wehn no players connected level.day has no player entity entries, when 1 or more players are connected a players entity is in the level.day
#1524 [16:40] <barrycarlyon> dat*
#1525 [16:40] <barrycarlyon> Hence my query.
#1526 [16:41] <barrycarlyon> Why do I keep doing .day instead of .dat lol.
#1527 [16:41] <barrycarlyon> But yes I just thought it odd that level.dat would get a player entry when players connected but only one player regardless of the number of players connected.
#1528 [16:41] <clive> ... so I'm assuming then that my launch issue is not a "known problem"
#1529 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> clive - Try... updating lwjgl?
#1530 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> www.lwjgl.org/
#1531 [16:42] <clive> is lwjgl a java opengl library?
#1532 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> it's the gaming library that minecraft uses
#1533 [16:43] <barrycarlyon> (I am fully aware of the players/ folder contents just wondering if there is a flaw in the nbt spec)
#1534 [16:43] <clive> ok, thank you
#1535 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I think that question's a tad over my head.
#1536 [16:44] <barrycarlyon> Hehe no problem.
#1537 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> clive - If you get the lwjgl-2.6.zip, you can replace the lwjgl libraries in your /bin and /bin/natives folder
#1538 [16:45] <Kealper> saywhatabout nbt spec?
#1539 [16:45] <barrycarlyon> It relates to the fact athat rather than parsing all the player files you can just parse level.dat. anywho
#1540 [16:46] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: level.dat contains a player entity entry when 1 or more players are connected to the server but only ever one player entity entry regardless of players connected.
#1541 [16:46] <barrycarlyon> If no players connected no entry, if one or more, only one entry (the first connected)
#1542 [16:46] <barrycarlyon> I tweeted it to notch a couple of days back when I spotted it, but not sure he saw it
#1543 [16:46] <Kealper> i'd assume that's just some leftover fat from ssp
#1544 [16:47] <Kealper> but yes, i noticed that aswell lol
#1545 [16:47] <barrycarlyon> Ah good point. I hand't consider the ssp point. I was expected level.dat to have entries for all players connected.
#1546 [16:47] <barrycarlyon> obvious no loop in the server code to add entity date to level.dat and/or there is no need to since hte use of player/x.dat files.
#1547 [16:48] <Kealper> yea, notch already said the server's code contains massive amounts of stuff from single, so it's probably just stuff left over from pulling a ton of copypasta lol
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#1549 [16:49] <Djbberko> Hey
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#1551 [16:49] <Kealper> hullo
#1552 [16:49] <Toonic> Can I get some Ubuntu helpz?
#1553 [16:49] <barrycarlyon> #ubuntu on freenode
#1554 [16:49] <Toonic> Its related to Minecraft.
#1555 [16:49] <barrycarlyon> Unless its minecraft specific :-D
#1556 [16:49] <Toonic> :P
#1557 [16:49] <Djbberko> Is the beta out for yiu
#1558 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> No Djbberko
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#1560 [16:50] <Toonic> When I login to Minecraft after running the .jar with Sun It just closes?
#1561 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> With what command?
#1562 [16:50] <barrycarlyon> Client or server?
#1563 [16:50] <Toonic> Client.
#1564 [16:50] <Toonic> And no Command?
#1565 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> How'd you launch the .jar?
#1566 [16:51] <Toonic> Rightclick open with Sun Java
#1567 [16:51] <Djbberko> Kealper
#1568 [16:51] <Djbberko> Is the beta out for you yet
#1569 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - Could you try launching it in the terminal?
#1570 [16:52] <Kealper> no?
#1571 [16:52] <Toonic> Sure? Mind explaining how?
#1572 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1573 [16:52] <Kealper> Notch just went to bed a few hours ago, he'll probably do it when he gets up
#1574 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Just run that in the directory where you have the .jar
#1575 [16:52] <Toonic> I assume that I have to be in the directory of the minecraft.jar
#1576 [16:53] <Toonic> Still a crash on login.
#1577 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> crash?
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#1579 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you anything?
#1580 [16:53] <Toonic> The window just closes.
#1581 [16:53] <Toonic> I got a .log file it generated.
#1582 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> That could be useful, could you pastebin.com it?
#1583 [16:53] <Toonic> Yup
#1584 [16:53] <clive> GreyVulpine: updating lwjgl fixed my problem :D the game has started!!! thank you so much
#1585 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
#1586 [16:53] <Toonic> http://pastebin.com/NYrDchbd
#1587 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm, You're running OpenJDK
#1588 [16:54] <Toonic> I have OpenJDK and Sun isntalled.
#1589 [16:54] <Toonic> *Installed.
#1590 [16:54] <Toonic> Should I uninstall JDK?
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#1592 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> OpenJDK has been known to cause problems in trying to launch Minecraft.
#1593 [16:55] <Djbberko> When does it come out for yiu guys
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#1595 [16:55] <clive> sweet, ok let's see what all this fuss with this game is about ;) bye, thanks for the help
#1596 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Djbberko - Notch is still working on the release
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#1598 [16:55] <Toonic> I'll try getting rid of it then then run it via the terminal again.
#1599 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> His twitter says it'll be out tomorrow
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#1601 [16:56] <Toonic> Still got the crash.
#1602 [16:56] <barrycarlyon> reboot
#1603 [16:56] <Djbberko> Well that had been the date
#1604 [16:56] <barrycarlyon> just in case :-
#1605 [16:56] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#1606 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> It's still the 19th here :)
#1607 [16:57] <Djbberko> Same
#1608 [16:57] <barrycarlyon> The beta will be out when its out.
#1609 [16:57] <Toonic> Salright I'll reboot then.
#1610 [16:57] <barrycarlyon> Why the rush?
#1611 [16:57] <Toonic> Be back in a few.
#1612 [16:57] <Djbberko> But I think for kealper its the 2/th
#1613 [16:57] <Kealper> rawr?
#1614 [16:57] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1614 [16:57] <Kealper> date?
#1615 [16:57] <Kealper> it's the 19th here
#1616 [16:58] <jDodson99> Anyone want to see my cavething? (still haven't found a good map editor to make spawn closer to entrance)
#1617 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - MCedit didn't work?
#1618 [16:58] <barrycarlyon> Just hack the dat!
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#1620 [16:58] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#1621 [16:58] * barrycarlyon dances and sings HACK THE DAT!
#1621 [16:58] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine - I'm on a mac, I can't figure it out xD
#1622 [16:58] <Kealper> grey what do ya think about me having a welcome notice on AuBot? ye? ne?
#1623 [16:58] <Djbberko> Kealper when is it the 20 for yiu
#1624 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Gah, depends on what the notice is
#1625 [16:59] <Kealper> it could be changed to whatever we deem noticable for that day
#1626 [16:59] <Kealper> like an motd, but more flashy
#1627 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> I'd hate for Aubot to flood itself out on netsplits
#1628 [16:59] <Kealper> i could implement spam control on it, so it would not do that
#1629 [17:00] <Kealper> but anyways, i was thinking that because no one ever reads the channel topic :S
#1630 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> We have a channel topic?
#1631 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1632 [17:00] <Kealper> xD
#1633 [17:00] <jDodson99> xD
#1634 [17:00] <barrycarlyon> aubot only do msg on user first visit to channel
#1635 [17:00] <jDodson99> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_SE.aspx
#1636 [17:00] <barrycarlyon> I assume he is a logger primarily?
#1637 [17:00] <jDodson99> Just thought you guys might like to see that...
#1638 [17:00] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1638 [17:00] <Kealper> barrycarlyon: yea, logger and lastseen
#1639 [17:01] <jDodson99> If anyone wants to explore my caves, just PM me and I'll give you the IP
#1640 [17:01] <barrycarlyon> jDodson99: the likely hood of beta coming out at 00:00 is unlikey why the time track.....
#1641 [17:01] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: std bot for the win :-D
#1642 [17:01] <Djbberko> One hour
#1643 [17:01] <jDodson99> barrycarlyon: Just saying xD
#1644 [17:01] <Kealper> slowly but surely getting that website for reading logs working....lol
#1645 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Did you get MCedit from the minecraft fourms?
#1646 [17:01] <Kealper> barrycarlyon: wat? lol
#1647 [17:01] <barrycarlyon> sweden is either +1 or +2 to me and I aint gonna bitch if it aint up by the time I get home from work tomorrow.
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#1650 [17:02] <Toonic> Still not working.
#1651 [17:02] <barrycarlyon> Kealper: std = standard.
#1652 [17:02] <Toonic> I'll pastebin the new log.
#1653 [17:02] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine: I'm on a mac. Python confuses me. Put 1 and 1 together.
#1654 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> python?
#1655 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> You're not running OSX?
#1656 [17:02] <Kealper> OH....you just mean standard, not like std as in stdio....lol
#1657 [17:02] <barrycarlyon> jDodson99: 10!
#1658 [17:02] <barrycarlyon> :-D
#1659 [17:02] <Toonic> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/5QcAFDck
#1660 [17:02] <Kealper> XD
#1661 [17:02] <jDodson99> I'm on OSX, but it says that the OSX version is for 10.6
#1662 [17:02] <barrycarlyon> But stdio standard input output is alos true :-D
#1663 [17:02] <jDodson99> I'm running 10.5
#1664 [17:03] <barrycarlyon> osx is win.
#1665 [17:03] <barrycarlyon> I'm snow leopard too.
#1666 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1667 [17:03] <Djbberko> Snow leopard I.good
#1668 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you can do parallels.
#1669 [17:03] <Djbberko> But windows 7 ftw
#1670 [17:03] <jDodson99> Nope, don't have it
#1671 [17:03] <barrycarlyon> I has parallels.
#1672 [17:03] <barrycarlyon> Best thing I bought.
#1673 [17:03] <Djbberko> Boot camp os bstter
#1674 [17:03] <jDodson99> xD
#1675 [17:03] <Kealper> i really gotta get myself a mac so i can mess around with osx...and provide support for those who use it
#1676 [17:04] <jDodson99> Why is BC better?
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#1678 [17:04] <Djbberko> Pshh bying apple software
#1679 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1680 [17:04] <barrycarlyon> Can't boot camp mine without wiping and starting again..
#1681 [17:04] <barrycarlyon> Also par
#1682 [17:04] <Pringlejoe123> hi
#1683 [17:04] <Kealper> Djbberko: that's what i just tell people to do lol
#1684 [17:04] <Toonic> Helpz?
#1685 [17:04] <Kealper> just bootcamp windows lol
#1686 [17:04] <Djbberko> Jdodson99 more power
#1687 [17:04] <Pringlejoe123> i need some help with my alpha version of Minecraft
#1688 [17:04] <barrycarlyon> Also parrallels will pick up the bootcamp and run it these days!
#1689 [17:04] <jDodson99> OIC.
#1690 [17:04] <Djbberko> Kealper, its sk.true
#1691 [17:04] <Djbberko> So true
#1692 [17:04] <barrycarlyon> Pringlejoe123: shoot away!
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#1694 [17:04] <Pringlejoe123> i use Windows 7 64 bit and have all new java versions
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#1696 [17:04] <Djbberko> Yes
#1697 [17:05] <Pringlejoe123> the client doesnt start
#1698 [17:05] <Djbberko> What happens
#1699 [17:05] <Pringlejoe123> nothing
#1700 [17:05] <jDodson99> lalalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalalalala *plugs ears and hopes for windows dude to leave* xD
#1701 [17:05] <Pringlejoe123> i doubleclick it and nothing ...
#1702 [17:05] <Djbberko> Try run as administrator
#1703 [17:05] <Pringlejoe123> i didd
#1704 [17:05] <Djbberko> Re download
#1705 [17:05] <Pringlejoe123> i did
#1706 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> Try running it in windows xp compat mode.
#1707 [17:06] <Pringlejoe123> i did
#1708 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> Stop using windows.
#1709 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> ???
#1710 [17:06] <barrycarlyon> Profit!
#1711 [17:06] <Pringlejoe123> that doesnt help me now
#1712 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Pringlejoe123 - How much RAM do you have?
#1713 [17:07] <Tu13es> what's the default port?
#1714 [17:07] <Pringlejoe123> 4 gb
#1715 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> 25565/TCP
#1716 [17:07] <Djbberko> Pringlejoe update your video drivers
#1717 [17:07] <Tu13es> thanks
#1718 [17:07] <Xavier> it sucks that there aint any wooden half steps
#1719 [17:07] <Xavier> :(
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#1721 [17:08] <Djbberko> Pringle you gotta. Update your drivers
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#1724 [17:12] <Toonic> I still cant get minecraft to launch.
#1725 [17:12] <Toonic> Well... to let me play
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#1727 [17:13] <Djbberko> How come
#1728 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - Does it give you any error logs when it crashes?
#1729 [17:13] <Toonic> Yeah I sent you it?
#1730 [17:13] <Djbberko> Im focusing on singleplayer
#1731 [17:13] <Toonic> lol
#1732 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1733 [17:13] <Toonic> http://pastebin.com/5QcAFDck
#1734 [17:14] <MikeC2103> anyone have any experiance fixing corrupted smp maps? I could use some advice..
#1735 [17:14] <esper_ckbnmk> hello can some help me whit this: Failed to verify username
#1736 [17:14] <Tu13es> hm, if i'm running my own server how do i make it so i can save its state if i have to restart it?
#1737 [17:14] <Tu13es> running it locally that is
#1738 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - Try updating java again?
#1739 [17:14] <Toonic> I completely forget how I even installed Java before.. '-_-
#1740 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Tu13es - "save-on"
#1741 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> You can also force a save with "save-all"
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#1744 [17:16] <Tu13es> thanks
#1745 [17:16] <Chris> is there an alternate mirror for the server software ?
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#1748 [17:17] <Kealper> Chris: why? that download should work
#1749 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> For alpha?
#1750 [17:17] <Chris> nope it doesnt
#1751 [17:17] <Chris> 404
#1752 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you're talking about the classic server?
#1753 [17:18] <Chris> http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#1754 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's the classic one
#1755 [17:18] <Chris> where is the link to alpha?
#1756 [17:18] <Chris> thats the type of server im trying to set up :)
#1757 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Same page where you downloaded the alpha client
#1758 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> It's at the bottom of the page
#1759 [17:19] <Toonic> Blah now my Mic on Skype isn't working '-_-
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#1762 [17:20] <esper_ckbnmk> anyone know what to do whit the Failed to verify username message
#1763 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to connect to a classic server with an alpha client?
#1764 [17:23] <esper_ckbnmk> no i'm trying to conect to a alpha server whit the alpha client
#1765 [17:23] <Chris> GreyVulpine: thank you
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#1767 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the alpha server yourself?
#1768 [17:25] <esper_ckbnmk> no i get that message on every server i'm trying to conect
#1769 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Um, hmm.
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#1772 [17:28] <xSyndromex> so...can anyone help me here?
#1773 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope, nobody
#1774 [17:28] <xSyndromex> Fair enough.
#1775 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> What's up
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#1777 [17:29] <xSyndromex> My account info doesn't work anymore
#1778 [17:29] <Toonic> *Pokes* Can I get some help getting this to work?
#1779 [17:29] <xSyndromex> Why is this? >:I
#1780 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - Did you update your java?
#1781 [17:29] <Toonic> How?
#1782 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh, umm
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#1785 [17:30] <Lukasomat123> Hi i still have my problem ...
#1786 [17:31] <Lukasomat123> for all those who dont know my problem ill write it down again
#1787 [17:32] * GreyVulpine pokes Toonic with
#1787 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
#1788 [17:32] <Lukasomat123> I downloaded the Alpha Client of Minecraft (227kb) and doubleclicked it but nothing happened i use Windows 7 64 bit. I updated Java, my graphic drivers and for some reason my INternet browser.
#1789 [17:33] <Toonic> Still no luck
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#1791 [17:33] <xSyndromex> Lukas go to start>run>%appdata&
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#1793 [17:33] <xSyndromex> and a minecraft folder will be in there
#1794 [17:33] <xSyndromex> see if the game is there
#1795 [17:33] <xSyndromex> %appdata%
#1796 [17:33] <xSyndromex> my bad
#1797 [17:34] <Lukasomat123> where should i type %appdata%?
#1798 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> In the search bar of your start menu
#1799 [17:35] <Lukasomat123> in this folder is the .minecraft folder
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#1802 [17:35] <Lukasomat123> what should i do now?
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#1804 [17:35] <jDodson99> 192.168.1.121 look for a giant pillar, then find the opening to a cave, and explore. It's uber.
#1805 [17:36] <xSyndromex> go to .minecraft
#1806 [17:36] <Lukasomat123> y
#1807 [17:36] <xSyndromex> then the game .exe should be in there
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#1809 [17:36] <Lukasomat123> nope
#1810 [17:36] <xSyndromex> run it and the game will run
#1811 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - That's a private IP address
#1812 [17:36] <Lukasomat123> no .exe in it
#1813 [17:36] * Kealper snickers
#1813 [17:36] <xSyndromex> Well then...im stumped
#1814 [17:36] <zouhair> Hi what's with the premimum thing in this table : http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Gameplay#Table_of_game_modes
#1815 [17:36] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine: What do you mean?
#1816 [17:36] <xSyndromex> Can anyone tell me how to retrieve a stolen account?
#1817 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> We can't use it to connect to you
#1818 [17:37] <zouhair> buying the alpha doesn't give you the premium options?
#1819 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> That's an internal NAT address
#1820 [17:37] <xSyndromex> It appears the e-mail has been reset...didn't even know that was possible.
#1821 [17:37] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine: Weird.. My friend Terry uses it to connect to my server, and he's all the way in Australia o_O
#1822 [17:37] <Lukasomat123> only 2 folders bin and resources and a "options" text document
#1823 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Uh..
#1824 [17:37] <Kealper> jDodson99: then he lied D:
#1825 [17:37] <jDodson99> Kealper: He was there when I found the tunnels...
#1826 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> VPN?
#1827 [17:38] <Kealper> zouhair: preminum account thing means you have to buy the game
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#1829 [17:38] <jDodson99> Kealper: Like, physically (not really) there in front of me.
#1830 [17:38] <xSyndromex> no help at all?
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#1832 [17:38] <Kealper> jDodson99: not with that ip he wasn't, unless you two have a VPN set up
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#1834 [17:38] <Kealper> jDodson99: http://whatismyip.com
#1835 [17:38] <zouhair> Kealper: ah, ty
#1836 [17:38] <jDodson99> Kealper: I have no iea what VPN is. Could you at least TRY to connect with that and tell me if it works?
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#1838 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - It won't work
#1839 [17:38] <Lukasomat123> syndrome dont know anything else i can do?
#1840 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Trust us on that
#1841 [17:39] <Darth> hello guys
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#1843 [17:39] <jDodson99> I mean,173.216.1.66
#1844 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> That, on the other hand
#1845 [17:39] <Darth> me and my friends are on a SMP and we made a portal but it doesn't transport us.
#1846 [17:39] <Kealper> there ya go lol
#1847 [17:39] <jDodson99> O_O no idea why it said "I mean," on there
#1848 [17:39] <Darth> it is however really cool looking and sounds
#1849 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Darth - Portals on SMP don't go to the nether
#1850 [17:39] <Darth> ing
#1851 [17:39] <xSyndromex> Can you reset the e-mail on a minecraft account?
#1852 [17:39] <Toonic> Still not freaking working
#1853 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> It hasn't been implemented
#1854 [17:39] <Toonic> I tried installing Java
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#1856 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> xSyndromex - No?
#1857 [17:39] <Toonic> Reinstalling it
#1858 [17:39] <Toonic> updating Java.
#1859 [17:39] <Toonic> Nothing.
#1860 [17:39] <Darth> no option thing to fix it even?
#1861 [17:39] <xSyndromex> Well I keep typing my e-mail in
#1862 [17:39] <xSyndromex> for a password reset
#1863 [17:39] <Toonic> After login it just crashes.
#1864 [17:39] <xSyndromex> as my account was hijacked
#1865 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - Can you uninstall and reinstall java?
#1866 [17:40] <xSyndromex> and it keeps saying "no user was found"
#1867 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> I dont' know the command off the top of my head
#1868 [17:40] <Toonic> I already did that.
#1869 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Hm
#1870 [17:40] <sinedeviance> <Toonic> After login it just crashes. <-- you tried deleted the bin folder?
#1871 [17:40] <Toonic> Deleted it twice.
#1872 [17:40] <Lukasomat123> xSyndromex no more ideas? :(
#1873 [17:40] <sinedeviance> tried deleting* sorry
#1874 [17:40] <Lukasomat123> i payed for this version and it doesnt work ...
#1875 [17:40] <sinedeviance> Toonic: no error messages
#1876 [17:40] <xSyndromex> none luas
#1877 [17:40] <sinedeviance> ?
#1878 [17:40] <zouhair> I have a shitty machine, and I use the "java -Xms650m -jar "Minecraft.jar"" to make minecraft work, is there a way to tweak this command line a little more?
#1879 [17:40] <sinedeviance> Toonic: windows, linux, mac?
#1880 [17:40] <Toonic> Linux/Ubuntu
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#1882 [17:40] <Toonic> And no error message.
#1883 [17:41] <sinedeviance> Toonic: uninstall open-jdk
#1884 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> He did
#1885 [17:41] <Toonic> I did.
#1886 [17:41] <sinedeviance> Toonic: also, make sure sun-java6-jdk is actually installed. don'
#1887 [17:41] <esper_ckbnmk> anyone know what to do if you get the Failed to verify username message ?
#1888 [17:41] <sinedeviance> don't trust apt, it will lie to you.
#1889 [17:41] <DotPdf> You have to add another phone to the other google voice account.
#1890 [17:41] <Toonic> How do I check that?
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#1892 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> java -version
#1893 [17:41] <sinedeviance> Toonic: you need sun-java6-jdk as well as sun-java6-plugin
#1894 [17:41] <Toonic> I have no idea if I have both?
#1895 [17:42] <sinedeviance> Toonic: also, run this command -- sudo update-alternatives --all
#1896 [17:42] <sinedeviance> Toonic: when you get to the part where it asks what java vm you want to use, make sure sun java is selected
#1897 [17:42] <sinedeviance> the rest just leave default
#1898 [17:42] <sinedeviance> keep in mind there are a couple different pages for java
#1899 [17:42] <sinedeviance> so don't just power through without looking
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#1902 [17:42] <Toonic> Ahhh
#1903 [17:43] <Toonic> I ran that command.
#1904 [17:43] <Toonic> And it gives me 4 options?
#1905 [17:43] <sinedeviance> ...
#1906 [17:43] <sinedeviance> for java?
#1907 [17:43] <sinedeviance> well, there's three that i know of
#1908 [17:43] <Toonic> No. I don't even see Java there.
#1909 [17:43] <sinedeviance> open-jdk, sun-java6-jdk, and default-jdk (a placeholder more than anything else.)
#1910 [17:44] <sinedeviance> Toonic: then do apt-get install --reinstall sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
#1911 [17:44] <sinedeviance> er yeah i meant JRE, not JDK. sorry, i'm way tired.
#1912 [17:44] <sinedeviance> you need sun-java6-jre
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#1914 [17:44] <sinedeviance> Toonic: ubuntu 10.10?
#1915 [17:44] <Toonic> Yup
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#1917 [17:45] <sinedeviance> Toonic: you DID enable all the repos in sources.list? (or software sources dialog?)
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#1919 [17:45] <Toonic> Er?
#1920 [17:45] <sinedeviance> Toonic: cause sun-java6-jdk is in multiverse or universe i think. it's the collaborative repo.
#1921 [17:46] <sinedeviance> ER GOD. sun-java6-jre i mean
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#1923 [17:46] <sinedeviance> what is up with me and the JDK today
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#1925 [17:46] <sinedeviance> Toonic: do this. open applications -> ubuntu software center
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#1927 [17:46] <sinedeviance> Toonic: then, in ubuntu software center, go to edit (i think, it's one of the top menu options) -> software sources
#1928 [17:47] <sinedeviance> then go through all the tabs and check all the boxes
#1929 [17:47] <sinedeviance> then, do this command in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
#1930 [17:48] <Toonic> Still a crash on login. It produces a log.
#1931 [17:48] <Toonic> Want em to send you that?
#1932 [17:48] <sinedeviance> pastebin it
#1933 [17:48] <sinedeviance> and give us the URL?
#1934 [17:49] <sinedeviance> Toonic: what output did apt-get install give you?
#1935 [17:49] <Toonic> http://pastebin.com/XgLjMnTd
#1936 [17:49] <Toonic> Thats the error.
#1937 [17:49] <Toonic> Er log?
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#1939 [17:50] <sinedeviance> Toonic: uh... when you ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
#1940 [17:50] <sinedeviance> what happened?
#1941 [17:50] <Kealper> do not...want...to respawn....lol
#1942 [17:50] <sinedeviance> WAIT!!
#1943 [17:50] * GreyVulpine pokes sinedeviance.
#1943 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> JRE version: 6.0_21-b06
#1944 [17:50] <sinedeviance> Toonic: you're running ubuntu x64?
#1945 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Is that the latest for ubuntu?
#1946 [17:50] <sinedeviance> no no no.
#1947 [17:50] <sinedeviance> that will not work
#1948 [17:50] <Toonic> Yes.
#1949 [17:50] <sinedeviance> only 32bit will work
#1950 [17:50] <Toonic> I'm on 64bit.
#1951 [17:50] <Toonic> Let me guess I'm installing 32bit?
#1952 [17:50] <sinedeviance> reinstall ubuntu. use the i386 iso, then use the -pae kernel to access all your RAM
#1953 [17:50] <sinedeviance> yes
#1954 [17:50] <sinedeviance> only way
#1955 [17:51] <Toonic> Why can't I use 64bit?
#1956 [17:51] <sinedeviance> you COULD try a chroot, but it's almost guaranteed to not work, and it's a real pain in the ass to setup
#1957 [17:51] <sinedeviance> Toonic: because java's 64bit implementation on linux sucks ass to begin with, and minecraft doesnt work with it.
#1958 [17:52] <Toonic> Is it even "Safe" for me to install 32bit?
#1959 [17:52] <barrycarlyon> Is there a document describing the pixel ordering of the skin file. (A document like the nbt spec)?
#1960 [17:52] <sinedeviance> Toonic: javae 64bit on windows is actually just java 32bit with some 64bit pointers and extensions added. on linux, it's an actual 64bit VM.
#1961 [17:52] <sinedeviance> <Toonic> Is it even "Safe" for me to install 32bit? <-- hell yes! :D
#1962 [17:52] <sinedeviance> i have been running ubuntu i386 on my new rig for months with no problems. again, i use the -pae kernel so i can access all of my ram. it's happy as can be. faster too.
#1963 [17:52] <Toonic> 8gb of Ram, 2.4Quad core, ati 3850?
#1964 [17:53] <sinedeviance> amd64 linux kernels have some issues with high latency
#1965 [17:53] <sinedeviance> Toonic: i have a core i3 530, 4GB RAM, ATI HD5850. no issues here. but you need the -pae kernel. ubuntu i386 will install it by default when you install the OS because you have more than 3GB of ram.
#1966 [17:53] <sinedeviance> but yes, you will be perfectly safe.
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#1968 [17:54] <Toonic> Blah thinking about just jumping back to Windows '-_-
#1969 [17:54] <sinedeviance> Toonic: on top of that, you can kiss all those problems with adobe flashplugin goodbye
#1970 [17:54] <flabbergaster> I want to start a multiplayer server so me and my friend can play together is that possible (i started minecraft today ) ;D
#1971 [17:54] <sinedeviance> Toonic: eh. up to you man, but trust me, i386 + pae kernel is the best way for linux currently.
#1972 [17:54] * GreyVulpine pokes barrycarlyon with http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=4843
#1972 [17:55] <Toonic> Got a link?
#1973 [17:55] <barrycarlyon> Thanks GreyVulpine
#1974 [17:55] <sinedeviance> <GreyVulpine> Is that the latest for ubuntu? <-- 6.0_22 should be latest, but i dunno if it's in the ubuntu repos yet.
#1975 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - yes
#1976 [17:56] <flabbergaster> Okay yes is a good start ;p then the question is, how do i do it? sucks to be a noob.. :<
#1977 [17:56] <sinedeviance> Toonic: link for what? go to ubuntu.com, download the desktop edition iso in i386 instead of amd64. install it. once running, do uname -r to make sure you're on the -pae kernel (should be.) if not, install it through apt and reboot. problem solved.
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#1980 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - I assume you want an alpha server?
#1981 [17:56] <flabbergaster> yeah
#1982 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Basically, you go here: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1983 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Download the server file at the bottom of the page
#1984 [17:56] <barrycarlyon> GreyVulpine: I'll take a beta server if you have it :-D
#1985 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Hah, yeah
#1986 [17:57] <sinedeviance> lol
#1987 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> You run that file, port forward as necessary
#1988 [17:57] <sinedeviance> barrycarlyon: come back tomorrow.
#1989 [17:57] <barrycarlyon> sinedeviance: I was being sarcastic.
#1990 [17:57] <thereddeh> how long for the goty version
#1991 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> And you have an alpha server
#1992 [17:57] <Toonic> Also Adobe Flashs eems to work fine. =/
#1993 [17:57] <Toonic> lol
#1994 [17:57] <sinedeviance> barrycarlyon: heh, ok :D
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#1996 [17:57] <sinedeviance> Toonic: you're lucky then. google 'flash player linux 64bit'
#1997 [17:58] <barrycarlyon> sinedeviance: and I don't expect beta to be on time :-D
#1998 [17:58] <sinedeviance> Toonic: it doesn't work almost 100% of the time on amd64.
#1999 [17:58] <Toonic> Yeah I installed it and it worked fine when I tested it.
#2000 [17:58] <jDodson99> Kealper is one hell of a miner. xD
#2001 [17:58] <sinedeviance> barrycarlyon: i do. mojang specifications is a real company now, and with that comes real expectations that they have to fulfill. for starters, keeping release dates.
#2002 [17:58] <flabbergaster> Thanks grey! :)
#2003 [17:59] <sinedeviance> Toonic: btw, after you install ubuntu 10.10 i386, the -pae kernel package is 'linux-image-generic-pae'
#2004 [17:59] <Toonic> So wait. I install Ubuntu 10.10 like normal.
#2005 [17:59] <Toonic> 32bit
#2006 [17:59] <sinedeviance> Toonic: yes.
#2007 [17:59] <Toonic> Then I get the -pae kernel package?
#2008 [18:00] <sinedeviance> Toonic: that depends. you might have to, or it may install that for you automatically during the OS installation.
#2009 [18:00] <Toonic> Okies.
#2010 [18:00] <sinedeviance> Toonic: you have more than 3GB of RAM so it should. but it doesn't always catch it.
#2011 [18:00] <Toonic> Alright. Do you have Skype?
#2012 [18:00] <sinedeviance> Toonic: even if it doesnt, it wont wreck your system or anything. you just wont have access to more than 3GB of RAM until you install the PAE kernel and reboot,.
#2013 [18:01] <sinedeviance> Toonic: nope. i'm tethering on my iphone right now. sorry, but i cant skype on this.
#2014 [18:01] <Toonic> Ah tis fine.
#2015 [18:01] <Toonic> I'll try and remeber the PAE kernel.
#2016 [18:01] <sinedeviance> i'm lucky to be able to use IRC :D
#2017 [18:01] <Toonic> How do I check to see if it installed with the instaltion.
#2018 [18:02] <sinedeviance> Toonic: once you boot into the new OS, open terminal and do 'uname -r'
#2019 [18:02] <sinedeviance> without the halfquotes, of course.
#2020 [18:02] <sinedeviance> it will spit out the kernel you are currently running on
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#2022 [18:02] <Toonic> And what will it say?
#2023 [18:02] <sinedeviance> Toonic: whatever kernel you're currently running on. it
#2024 [18:02] <sinedeviance> it's* relative.
#2025 [18:02] <sinedeviance> sorry
#2026 [18:03] <Toonic> Tis fine.
#2027 [18:03] <jDodson99> Are there any good texture packs out there that you guys use?
#2028 [18:03] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: i use doku's RPG textures
#2029 [18:03] <Toonic> <3 Doku
#2030 [18:03] <jDodson99> xD
#2031 [18:03] <Toonic> Alright then sine thanks for the help. Downloading the 32bit ISO atm.
#2032 [18:03] <Toonic> We'll see how it goes from there.
#2033 [18:04] <Toonic> Been wanting to learn Linux for a while so.
#2034 [18:04] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: doku doesnt work on them anymore so i am maintaining them to work with the newer minecraft updates. *shameless plug follows* release thread here -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=70556
#2035 [18:04] <Toonic> Might just stick with it.
#2036 [18:04] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: i also created a 16x16 version of them.
#2037 [18:04] <sinedeviance> Toonic: sure man. good luck! if you need help, hop on irc.freenode.net and join #ubuntu
#2038 [18:05] <Toonic> I did earlier for my Skype issue.
#2039 [18:05] <Toonic> They weren't any help :p
#2040 [18:05] <jDodson99> sinedeviance: What's the difference between 36x36 and 16x16?
#2041 [18:05] <jDodson99> *32x32
#2042 [18:05] <sinedeviance> lol. doesnt surprise me. try ##club-ubuntu next time. they're not a support channel but they should help.
#2043 [18:06] <Toonic> Ouch. Skype seemed to of died on me now... =/
#2044 [18:06] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: 16x16 is default minecraft texture size. 32x32 are considered 'hi-res' and you need a special HD texture patcher to install them.
#2045 [18:07] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: 32x32 are much better quality basically.
#2046 [18:07] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: 16x16 is more compatible and easier to install/use.
#2047 [18:07] <sinedeviance> there are screenshots further down the release post. see the differences for yourself.
#2048 [18:07] <jDodson99> sinedeviance: So... Can you tell me how /exactly/ to use 32x32?
#2049 [18:08] <sinedeviance> jDodson99: search for 'HD texture fix' on minecraftforum.
#2050 [18:08] <jDodson99> kk
#2051 [18:08] <sinedeviance> speaking of textures, anybody know what the deal is with the iron/gold/diamond blocks?
#2052 [18:08] <sinedeviance> i.e. they have a top texture and a side texture, but only the top texture is used
#2053 [18:08] <sinedeviance> why is that?
#2054 [18:09] <Toonic> Yeah you change your Coal blocks to Diamond and your Diamond to Coal then send the texture pack out to friends.
#2055 [18:09] <Toonic> Watch them freak out as they yell "HOLY CRAP DIAMONDS EVERYWHERE"
#2056 [18:09] <sinedeviance> lolol
#2057 [18:09] <jDodson99> XD
#2058 [18:09] <Toonic> Also change lava to water.
#2059 [18:10] <Toonic> I really wanna do that one..
#2060 [18:10] <sinedeviance> that would be a good prank to play one someone
#2061 [18:10] <sinedeviance> on*
#2062 [18:10] <sinedeviance> jeez... the nether would be filled with faux water
#2063 [18:10] <jDodson99> That would be awesome xD
#2064 [18:10] <jDodson99> Or better yet, change dirt or sand to diamond xD
#2065 [18:10] <Toonic> Good thing the nether doesn't work :p
#2066 [18:10] <sinedeviance> Toonic: doesn't work?
#2067 [18:10] <sinedeviance> uh... doesn't it?
#2068 [18:10] <flabbergaster> Hmm i downloaded the minecraft.server thingy, started it up, used my ip+the number said in the minecraft.server thing. but i get the message "cant connect to server" when i try to connect
#2069 [18:10] <Toonic> In SMP
#2070 [18:10] <sinedeviance> i haven't even been there yet
#2071 [18:10] <sinedeviance> oh, in SMP. yeah.
#2072 [18:11] <Toonic> Any idea if thats going to be fixxed in the Beta?
#2073 [18:11] <Toonic> or?
#2074 [18:11] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: in server.properties, just leave 'server ip' blank
#2075 [18:11] <sinedeviance> Toonic: probably.
#2076 [18:11] <Toonic> I dont remeber him saying anything about it so.
#2077 [18:12] <sinedeviance> Toonic: for now i'm just happy that monsters/damage/minecarts finally work.
#2078 [18:12] <Toonic> Hehe.
#2079 [18:12] <sinedeviance> not like i can play SMP right now, but still
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#2081 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Gah, yeah, especially minecarts
#2082 [18:12] <Toonic> xD
#2083 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> and redstone
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#2085 [18:12] <sinedeviance> i havent been able to play since right after the boo update
#2086 [18:12] <jdodson99_> Firefox crashed. AGAIN.
#2087 [18:12] <flabbergaster> sinedeviance: Where do i find that? (a) i know im a big noob :/
#2088 [18:12] <jdodson99_> *derp*
#2089 [18:12] <Toonic> After I get Minecraft working I need to get WoW working '-_-
#2090 [18:12] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: where do you find what?
#2091 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Did you run minecraft_server.exe?
#2092 [18:12] <flabbergaster> serverproperties so i can leave it blank,
#2093 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> It should've created a bunch of other files, including server.properties
#2094 [18:13] <flabbergaster> yeah i ran the exe.
#2095 [18:13] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: no it's blank by default. i thought you meant you DID change it already. sorry.
#2096 [18:13] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: when you run the .exe it should create a bunch of files. server.properties is one of them.
#2097 [18:13] <sinedeviance> just an FYI
#2098 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> (also, windows hides extensions by default, sometimes it only shows up as "server
#2099 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> )
#2100 [18:13] <sinedeviance> ^this
#2101 [18:13] <sinedeviance> linux is best for minecraft servers to be honest
#2102 [18:13] <sinedeviance> i ran mine on linux and it was perfect
#2103 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Then, with the server running, can you connect with 127.0.0.1 in the client?
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#2105 [18:16] <flabbergaster> ´GreyVulpine oh yeah now i connected
#2106 [18:16] <flabbergaster> if i want my friend to be able to connect do i give him my ip+ the server "number"?
#2107 [18:16] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: k. turn off windows firewall, make sure your router has the ports forwarded.
#2108 [18:16] <sinedeviance> flabbergaster: no, just the ip. the 5-digit number is just the port you need to open. it's default so it will work.
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#2110 [18:18] <sinedeviance> i cant wait to get my VPS
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#2112 [18:20] <jdodson99_> I forgot how to install texture packs o_O
#2113 [18:20] <jdodson99_> */fail/*
#2114 [18:20] <Toonic> Sine thats another reason why I got linux :p
#2115 [18:20] <sinedeviance> jdodson99_: there are two ways. for 16x16 packs (i.e. default size) just place them in /.minecraft/textures/
#2116 [18:20] <jdodson99_> 12.minecraft?
#2117 [18:21] <sinedeviance> jdodson99_: for 32x32 or up, use the HD texture patcher.
#2118 [18:21] <Toonic> I run a minecraft server and we recently got booted from our host so now I'm foreced to host it :p
#2119 [18:21] <jdodson99_> 12the minecraft pkg?
#2120 [18:21] <sinedeviance> jdodson99_: no, your .minecraft folder. you on windows? what version? linux?
#2121 [18:21] <flabbergaster> sinedeviance: thanks for the help now the only remaining problem is that im not sure how to open ports in my routher (facepalm) ;D
#2122 [18:21] <Toonic> portforward.com
#2123 [18:21] <Toonic> I think is the site.
#2124 [18:21] <sinedeviance> ^this
#2125 [18:22] <sinedeviance> it has tutorials on how to open ports on pretty much any router
#2126 [18:22] <jdodson99_> 12Mac 10.5.8
#2127 [18:22] <sinedeviance> jdodson99_: heh... dont ask me there. sorry.
#2128 [18:23] <jdodson99_> 12xD derp
#2129 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> mac, it's ~/library
#2130 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> application support/minecraft
#2131 [18:24] <sinedeviance> brb
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#2137 [18:27] <Gonadz> Hey just wondering if anyone could help me with a server issue i'm having?
#2138 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the issue.
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#2140 [18:27] <Gonadz> Eh, you were helping me yesterday with my setup, running me through it and I eventually got it.
#2141 [18:28] <Gonadz> One big problem now, super intense lag issues.
#2142 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Going to have to refresh my memory.
#2143 [18:28] <Gonadz> Hmm, my name was like blitzmafia probably and I was pming you my ips and stuff.
#2144 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah
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#2146 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> So, lag?
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#2149 [18:29] <Gonadz> Well, basically we can't see eachother or monsters moving, pick up blocks or they come into the inventory late
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#2151 [18:29] <Gonadz> and the server receives typing right away but takes a while to go through.
#2152 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#2153 [18:29] <kyle6513> what seems to be the problem GreyVulpine
#2154 [18:30] <Gonadz> I tried upping allocated memory and it barely helped, if I try and go past 1024 it wont even run the server O_o;
#2155 [18:30] <kyle6513> I believe it needs to be in 32 bit steps
#2156 [18:30] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2156 [18:30] * Kealper has returned and is confuesed
#2156 [18:31] <Gonadz> No ideas? :P
#2157 [18:31] <Kealper> Gonadz: how much ram does said machine have? and are you running both client and server off the same machine?
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#2159 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Um, well, the "can't see each other" sounds like a corrupt player.dat file
#2160 [18:32] <Gonadz> Nope, server is at my friends house and I remote it, uhm honestly got no clue lmao lemme check
#2161 [18:32] <Gonadz> and we can see eachother
#2162 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> the monsters moving, sounds like you have "peaceful" mode on
#2163 [18:32] <Gonadz> just not moving.
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#2165 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Oh, wait.. that, I have seen
#2166 [18:32] <Gonadz> Eh, too lazy to check lets go with lots.
#2167 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Don't know what the heck is going on with that
#2168 [18:33] <Kealper> does said friend have the internet speed to be hosting?
#2169 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> But the lag with picking up blocks... sounds like more of a 'net speed...
#2170 [18:33] <Gonadz> 25dl/6upload
#2171 [18:33] <Gonadz> I'd say yes?
#2172 [18:33] <Kealper> if yes, is he torrenting a ton of stuff?
#2173 [18:33] <Gonadz> Never it's a dedicated server.
#2174 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Define dedicated server.
#2175 [18:33] <Kealper> not just on that box, i mean at his house in general...
#2176 [18:33] <Gonadz> Most likely not, he's always out and his brother is too dumb to torrent O_O;
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#2178 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> But he's still hosting it off a home connection
#2179 [18:34] <Kealper> torrenting is easy, torrenting responsibly is not
#2180 [18:34] <sinedeviance> Gonadz: you'd be surprised how many dumb people torrent
#2181 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> which some other person might be downloading/torrenting big files with
#2182 [18:34] <Gonadz> There is however I think only 1 CSS server running it on it now, nobody really plays on it though so It shouldnt take up too much.
#2183 [18:34] <sinedeviance> home connections are slow anyways
#2184 [18:34] <sinedeviance> no matter what
#2185 [18:34] <sinedeviance> it's a tier issue
#2186 [18:34] <Kealper> hey, mine runs off a home connection lol
#2187 [18:34] <sinedeviance> latency is always higher
#2188 [18:35] <sinedeviance> Kealper: whats your average latency?
#2189 [18:35] <sinedeviance> probably at least 200msec
#2190 [18:35] <kyle6513> since limewire (the easy version) went down, the ratio of leechers to seeders has changed quite rapidly
#2191 [18:35] <Kealper> people to me are around 50-60ms
#2192 [18:35] <sinedeviance> thats from client to server and back to client
#2193 [18:35] <jdodson99_> 12ROFL.
#2194 [18:35] <jdodson99_> 12I'm not sure if it's a glitch or what
#2195 [18:35] <Kealper> round-trip, no more than 100
#2196 [18:35] <jdodson99_> 12But when I used the RPG texture pack, my pumpkin spazzed
#2197 [18:35] <thereddeh> ohh look annoying colours
#2198 [18:35] <sinedeviance> Kealper: yes thats your download at work. your upload is significantly slower and more laggy.
#2199 [18:35] <sinedeviance> Kealper: might be 60msec inbound. but outbound might be another 150msec.
#2200 [18:36] <jdodson99_> 12Some looked like water, some looked like lava
#2201 [18:36] <jdodson99_> 12The rest looked like pumpkin
#2202 [18:36] * Kealper facedesks
#2202 [18:36] <Kealper> <-- not computer illiterate
#2203 [18:36] <sinedeviance> jdodson99_: you didnt install it with the HD texture patcher. i told you that you have to do that with 32x32+ packs.
#2204 [18:36] <Gonadz> Anyways does anyone got any ideas? on how I can fix it? D:
#2205 [18:37] <sinedeviance> Kealper: not saying you are, however there's a lot of misinformation about home connections flying around. they're not as fast as everyone thinks they are.
#2206 [18:37] <Kealper> grey for shits and giggles, cmd ping mc.kealper.com
#2207 [18:37] <thereddeh> whatdo u guys think the best texturepack is?
#2208 [18:37] <kyle6513> gonads, try 2048 instead
#2209 [18:37] <Gonadz> Actually Kyle
#2210 [18:37] <thereddeh> Kealper is like asking to ddos him :>
#2211 [18:37] <jdodson99_> 12sinedeviance: It still funny
#2212 [18:37] <Gonadz> right now I'm just using 333 since the original one didnt work, you think that's having a huge effect on it?
#2213 [18:38] <jdodson99_> 12*it's
#2214 [18:38] <Gonadz> I think that may be the reason myself.
#2215 [18:38] <sinedeviance> Kealper: i get 164ms round-trip
#2216 [18:38] <sinedeviance> Kealper: told ya :D
#2217 [18:38] <Kealper> depends where you are, aswell
#2218 [18:38] <sinedeviance> charlotte NC
#2219 [18:38] <kyle6513> Gonadz, well I believe the ram allocation should be in 32-bit values, so yes 333 probably wouldn't work.
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#2221 [18:38] <Gonadz> Oh woops, thought you were talking about the port lmao
#2222 [18:38] <Kealper> most people who are on my server (or other services i run) get around 50-100
#2223 [18:38] <Gonadz> Nawh, I tried 2048 and it wont even run it.
#2224 [18:39] <Gonadz> Lemme try once more though.
#2225 [18:39] <kyle6513> Gonadz, thats strange, how much ram does this machine even have?
#2226 [18:39] <sinedeviance> Kealper: thats probably not round-trip though. most games only report outbound ping.
#2227 [18:39] <Kealper> and the few that are on the same provider in the same state get about 20-30
#2228 [18:39] <Kealper> sinedeviance: my own chat software
#2229 [18:39] <Gonadz> I think it was more a crash issue cuz I'm remoting it and everything went to hell
#2230 [18:39] <sinedeviance> Kealper: eh... IRC?
#2231 [18:39] <Gonadz> I restarted though so lemme try.
#2232 [18:39] <Kealper> sinedeviance: proprietary
#2233 [18:39] <jdodson99_> 12I can't figure out hd patcher
#2234 [18:39] <jdodson99_> 12o.o
#2235 [18:39] <thereddeh> where u at kealp? im getting like 140 lol
#2236 [18:39] * Kealper makes programz
#2236 [18:39] <sinedeviance> Kealper: okay then
#2237 [18:40] <Kealper> thereddeh: michigan
#2238 [18:40] <sinedeviance> Kealper: whats the chat protocol?
#2239 [18:40] <thereddeh> ahh that explains it ;p
#2240 [18:40] <kyle6513> jdodson99_, I don't believe you're allowed text colours in this IRC
#2241 [18:40] <Kealper> one i made, i've got a super long file explaining it
#2242 [18:40] <jdodson99_> 12You're not? aw.
#2243 [18:40] <Gonadz> Should I try changing the port as well or do you think it's fine where it's at?
#2244 [18:40] <jdodson99_> *isbacktonormal* >.>
#2245 [18:40] <kyle6513> jdodson99_, either way, its less ignorant ;)
#2246 [18:40] <sinedeviance> Kealper: well. also consider that the latency from the game might be higher than the latency from your chat program.
#2247 [18:41] <sinedeviance> Kealper: also consider that your chat program may be lying to you or averaging.
#2248 [18:41] <Toonic> 20mins untill Ubuntu 32bit is done.
#2249 [18:41] <Toonic> HUZZA
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#2251 [18:41] <kyle6513> Gonadz, the port shouldn't stop the server from starting, its usually something wrong with the machine or the server program itself
#2252 [18:41] <sinedeviance> Kealper: as an example, IRC is telling me i have about 2000msec ping to this server, when in fact it's closer to 150msec.
#2253 [18:41] <kyle6513> it'll just go test my server to see if it can run with an allocated 2048
#2254 [18:41] * Kealper gives up
#2254 [18:42] <Gonadz> No no, the starting thing wasnt a real issue the entire thing messed up
#2255 [18:42] <kyle6513> Toonic, should be less than that!
#2256 [18:42] <sinedeviance> Kealper: just sayin. i know this because i ran CraftIRC and commands passed to it through IRC were always nigh-instantaneous. no 2-sec delay.
#2257 [18:42] <Gonadz> it starts, but you think a different port would help speed things up?
#2258 [18:42] <Toonic> Haha sadly its not.
#2259 [18:42] <kyle6513> Gonadz, how are you connected to this server? virtual desktop?
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#2261 [18:43] <Gonadz> Hmm, when I put it to 2048 it doesn't wanna run the .bat
#2262 [18:43] <Gonadz> eh, logmein lol.
#2263 [18:43] <sinedeviance> brb
#2264 [18:43] <kyle6513> Gonadz, so you get a GUI based? well if you don't shut that down while you are running your server then that will be sucking the speed and CPU of the server a hell of a lot, make sure you disconnect that connection before you use the server
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#2266 [18:44] <Gonadz> No clue what you just said...
#2267 [18:45] <Gonadz> well I got hey0 but the only way to change memory that I found was by running the GUI version
#2268 [18:45] <Xavier> is there anything that gives light and that can be attached to the ceiling?
#2269 [18:45] <kyle6513> Gonadz, in other words, if you are using the client that is controling the server while the minecraft server is running then that will suck up the server's resources and make the server run slowly, if that is the problem at all
#2270 [18:45] <Gonadz> Sulphur found in the Nether.
#2271 [18:45] <kyle6513> Xavier, lava + glass
#2272 [18:46] <Gonadz> Oh, well I disconnect while I'm on the server and it's still awfully laggy.
#2273 [18:46] <Gonadz> I disconnect logmein while I'm on minecraft server
#2274 [18:46] <Gonadz> and it's still laggy
#2275 [18:46] <kyle6513> Gonadz, well it shouldnt be a port problem, unless you're using something other than the default port
#2276 [18:46] <Gonadz> I said I'm using 333 as the port because I get a failed to bind port error when I use 25565
#2277 [18:47] <kyle6513> Gonadz, 333 could be a used port, try using something close to 25565 like 25560
#2278 [18:48] <zouhair> Hi, the server port is it TCP, UDP or both?
#2279 [18:48] <Kealper> tvp
#2280 [18:48] <Kealper> tcp
#2281 [18:48] <Gonadz> Alright, just gotta forward the port one sec.
#2282 [18:48] <zouhair> thans
#2283 [18:48] <Xavier> sill sulfur burn my wood?
#2284 [18:48] <kyle6513> Gonadz, don't forget to change it on the server ;)
#2285 [18:48] <Gonadz> dud
#2286 [18:48] <Gonadz> did* lol.
#2287 [18:49] <Gonadz> I don't think sulphur burns stuff but I'm probably wrong since I've never seen it.
#2288 [18:49] <Gonadz> 10 more seconds while it forwards :P
#2289 [18:49] <Xavier> mk
#2290 [18:49] <kyle6513> I think you could use he sort of light block
#2291 [18:50] <kyle6513> the sort of*-
#2292 [18:50] <Xavier> lightstone is sulphur
#2293 [18:50] <kyle6513> ah there you go
#2294 [18:50] <kyle6513> then no, sulphur won't burn anything
#2295 [18:50] <Xavier> ok thanks :D
#2296 [18:50] <Gonadz> Interesting O_O;
#2297 [18:50] <Gonadz> doesn't seem to want to let me connect now
#2298 [18:50] <Gonadz> X_X
#2299 [18:51] <Gonadz> nvm my fault lol.
#2300 [18:51] <kyle6513> lol
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#2303 [18:53] <Kealper`> O.o
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#2305 [18:53] <Gonadz> It's still really laggy
#2306 [18:53] <Gonadz> O_O
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#2308 [18:53] <Kealper`> BEGONE, IMPOSTER!
#2309 [18:54] <kyle6513> Gonadz, try doing a speed test on the server
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#2311 [18:54] <Gonadz> the same if not worse.
#2312 [18:54] <kyle6513> as in on the server machine
#2313 [18:54] <kyle6513> www.speedtest.net
#2314 [18:54] <Gonadz> Alright, I'll try.
#2315 [18:54] <Gonadz> Yeah I know.
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#2318 [18:57] <Gonadz> Dang
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#2320 [18:57] <Gonadz> still getting 21/6
#2321 [18:57] <Gonadz> so I guess it's not his internet
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#2323 [18:57] <kyle6513> Gonadz, could be your internet ;)
#2324 [18:57] <kyle6513> Gonadz, ping his machine
#2325 [18:57] <Gonadz> I have like 5 friends all experiencing the same thing
#2326 [18:58] <Gonadz> and yeah if I put it past 1gb ram it doesn't even run
#2327 [18:58] <Gonadz> like when I open the bat, it opens then closes.
#2328 [18:58] <kyle6513> Gonadz, try running the bat through a CMD window, that way if theres any error messages we'll catch them
#2329 [18:58] <Gonadz> Dunn how lmao.
#2330 [18:59] <kyle6513> Gonadz, cd to the directory with the bat
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#2332 [18:59] <kyle6513> and just type whats in the bat into the CMD window
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#2334 [19:02] * aetherian yawns
#2334 [19:02] <aetherian> hello guys
#2335 [19:02] <Kealper> ello
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#2338 [19:03] <Gonadz> Hmm
#2339 [19:04] <Gonadz> Could not reserve enough space for object heap.
#2340 [19:04] <Gonadz> could not create java VM
#2341 [19:04] <Gonadz> could be one of the sticks failing T_T
#2342 [19:04] <Kealper> that'd suck
#2343 [19:04] <Gonadz> Unless the ram is capped somewhere else.
#2344 [19:04] <Kealper> or you are just running out of ram
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#2346 [19:04] <Lukestaz> hey
#2347 [19:04] <Gonadz> Nah it's a server computer with 1 server on it
#2348 [19:05] <Lukestaz> I need some support guys.
#2349 [19:05] <Gonadz> I'm gunna go check how much we've got.
#2350 [19:05] <Lukestaz> more admin support.. but yeah
#2351 [19:05] <kyle6513> Lukestaz, whats the problem
#2352 [19:05] <Lukestaz> well
#2353 [19:05] <Lukestaz> when i purchased the game a while ago
#2354 [19:05] <Lukestaz> i had an gmail account.
#2355 [19:05] <Lukestaz> and know theres been some issues with my gmail getting hack
#2356 [19:05] <Lukestaz> now its barred out.. and i cant recover it
#2357 [19:05] <Lukestaz> i was hoping i could get my email adress changed on my account.
#2358 [19:06] <Kealper> support@mojang.com but i'm not sure if they will do that for you
#2359 [19:06] <Lukestaz> ok, thanks
#2360 [19:06] <Lukestaz> worth a shot.
#2361 [19:06] <Gonadz> Alright, found my problem guys.
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#2363 [19:06] <Gonadz> I guess it's only reading 1 of the ram sticks
#2364 [19:06] <Gonadz> gunna need to go over to his house X_X what a journey.
#2365 [19:08] <kyle6513> Gonadz, that wouldnt solve your lag issues, unless its running off 1GB
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#2367 [19:09] <Gonadz> Yeah apparently we're only reading 1gb ram and I got the MC server allocated to 1gb ram.
#2368 [19:09] <Gonadz> rofl.
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#2371 [19:10] <kyle6513> Gonadz, theres your problem then :)
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#2375 [19:11] <Gonadz> Mhm, don't feel like adventuring to his house right now though X_X so I guess my friends will need to wait lol.
#2376 [19:11] <Gonadz> Thanks for your help.
#2377 [19:11] <kyle6513> no problems
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#2379 [19:12] <Gonadz> Later.
#2380 [19:12] <wikkit> hi everyone, anyone know how I could change my ingame name? Just got the game today
#2381 [19:12] <Kealper> wikkit: can't atm
#2382 [19:12] <Gonadz> Can't I don't think.
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#2385 [19:12] <wikkit> oh is there someone I could contact to change it or its not allowed to change even the login at all?
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#2387 [19:13] <Kealper> support@mojang.com but unless it's VERY important that it be changed (racist, sexist, extremist material) then i don't think they will
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#2389 [19:14] <wikkit> ok thanks so much
#2390 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> wikkit - It's just not possible right now
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#2405 [19:27] <thereddeh> nigh night
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#2413 [19:33] <Goose> Hello
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#2415 [19:33] <Goose> Is there a possebility to get help here?
#2416 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Nope, none at all
#2417 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> This #MineCraftHelp's just for show
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#2419 [19:34] <Goose> haha
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#2421 [19:34] <Goose> I was just wondering
#2422 [19:34] <Goose> if its possible to get a 1.0.15 save to run on 1.2.6?
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#2424 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I have no idea
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#2426 [19:36] <Goose> I thought this was a helping channel?
#2427 [19:36] <Goose> Then who has an idea?
#2428 [19:37] <Kealper> well....you could just try it, it should work
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#2431 [19:37] <the_late_man> I see "hello", lag out, and see the "I have no idea"
#2432 [19:37] <the_late_man> funny
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#2434 [19:38] <Goose> haha
#2435 [19:38] <Goose> well i have obislly tried that
#2436 [19:39] <Goose> but it just says 1.0.15 when i start the game..
#2437 [19:39] <Goose> on singel player..
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#2439 [19:39] <Kealper> O.o
#2440 [19:40] <Kealper> probably not then
#2441 [19:40] <Tu13es> can i make my server so that time doesn't pass when nobody's in it?
#2442 [19:40] <Tu13es> or, i guess it doesn't matter if time does pass
#2443 [19:40] <Tu13es> never mind
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#2446 [19:41] <Kealper> hmmm...
#2447 [19:41] <Kealper> L4D2 or watch shows.......decisions, decisions..
#2448 [19:42] <Goose> what is it that decides what verision the game is?
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#2450 [19:43] <Kealper> well i assumed it was the game that decided lol
#2451 [19:43] <Kealper> it might be screwing up due to a parse error or something, the map format may have changed a bit since 1.0 :S
#2452 [19:45] <Goose> ok..
#2453 [19:45] <Goose> but where is the game
#2454 [19:46] <Kealper> like, the files the game needs to run?
#2455 [19:46] <Goose> is it in the map in the roaming map?
#2456 [19:46] <Kealper> %appdata%\.minecraft
#2457 [19:46] <Goose> yes
#2458 [19:46] <Goose> is it those that decides what verision it is?
#2459 [19:46] <Kealper> yea
#2460 [19:46] <Goose> or is it the minecraft.exe
#2461 [19:46] <Goose> ok then..
#2462 [19:46] <Goose> hmm
#2463 [19:47] <Kealper> minecraft.exe is just a launcher/container for the files in appdata
#2464 [19:47] <Kealper> which is why that same exe never needs updating when the game updates
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#2468 [19:48] <aetherian> wooow my net is worse than ever.
#2469 [19:49] <Kealper> lol
#2470 [19:49] <Goose> Wait
#2471 [19:49] <Goose> i fixed it! :D
#2472 [19:50] <Goose> I did work to convert
#2473 [19:50] <Kealper> O.o
#2474 [19:50] <Goose> just replace the bin and resource folders..
#2475 [19:50] <Goose> with the newer version ones..
#2476 [19:50] <Goose> and there we go :)
#2477 [19:50] <Kealper> then....you were actually running that old version of minecraft :S
#2478 [19:50] <Goose> yes
#2479 [19:50] <Goose> i was
#2480 [19:50] <Kealper> you....did buy the game, right?
#2481 [19:50] <Goose> no comment
#2482 [19:51] <Goose> ;-)
#2483 [19:51] * Kealper facepalms
#2483 [19:51] <Kealper> if you like it, i'd suggest you buy within the next few hours before it's price goes up and you don't get alpha benifits
#2484 [19:52] <Goose> how much does it cost now
#2485 [19:52] <Goose> and how much will it cost?
#2486 [19:52] <Kealper> right now it's 10 euros, but it will go up to 15 euros for beta, and 20 euros when it's finnally released
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#2488 [19:53] <Kealper> alpha accounts will get everything dealing with minecraft for free, forever after purchase
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#2494 [19:53] <Kealper> so any upcoming DLC after the game is finished, alpha users won't have to pay
#2495 [19:53] <Kealper> beta+ will have to pay for stuff like that
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#2497 [19:53] <Goose> DLC?
#2498 [19:54] <Kealper> downloadable content
#2499 [19:54] <Goose> oh..
#2500 [19:54] <Kealper> expansion packs and such
#2501 [19:54] <Goose> well
#2502 [19:54] <Goose> oh ok
#2503 [19:54] <Goose> hmm
#2504 [19:54] <Goose> Ill but it if u pay for it? :D
#2505 [19:54] <Goose> buy*
#2506 [19:54] <Kealper> .......lol
#2507 [19:54] <Goose> cus I dont have a working paypal right now..
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#2509 [19:54] <Goose> or is it payable with something els?
#2510 [19:54] * Kealper is broke
#2510 [19:55] <Kealper> you can use credit card aswell
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#2512 [19:55] <Goose> ok
#2513 [19:55] <Kealper> they just introduced that payment method a few days ago
#2514 [19:55] <Goose> i thought minecraft was an old game.. :S
#2515 [19:55] <Goose> Everything seams to happend now..
#2516 [19:55] <Kealper> nope, only made to look old lol
#2517 [19:55] <Odd> How soon after purchase of gift codes do you receive a confirmation mail?
#2518 [19:55] <Kealper> Odd: afaik it should be instant....
#2519 [19:55] <Tu13es> hm, anyone know where the "saves" directory is on a mac?
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#2521 [19:56] <Tu13es> i dont see any and neither does spotlight..
#2522 [19:56] <Kealper> i've got no idea on that one :S
#2523 [19:56] <Kealper> anywho
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#2525 [19:56] <Kealper> afk
#2526 [19:57] <Goose> tu13es
#2527 [19:57] <Tu13es> yessir
#2528 [19:57] <Goose> have u looked in
#2529 [19:57] <Goose> %appdata%/.minecraft
#2530 [19:57] <Kealper> i lied, i'm still here
#2531 [19:57] <Kealper> he's on mac not windows
#2532 [19:57] <ConMan8> ..I'm here too
#2533 [19:57] <Odd> Thanks Kealper
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#2545 [19:57] <ConMan8> Mac has .minecraft in Application Support
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#2547 [19:58] <ConMan8> and ugh, netsplit
#2548 [19:58] <Kealper> what he said
#2549 [19:58] <Kealper> to both
#2550 [19:58] <Kealper> lol
#2551 [19:58] <Goose> lol
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#2553 [19:58] <Tu13es> sweet
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#2556 [19:58] <Goose> kealper do u know nutch?
#2557 [19:58] <Goose> irl
#2558 [19:58] <Kealper> no
#2559 [19:58] <ConMan8> nutch, who's that
#2560 [19:58] <Kealper> Notch
#2561 [19:59] <LG_Legacy> >:(
#2562 [19:59] <Tu13es> weird, i don't see that directory.
#2563 [19:59] <Kealper> LG SPEAKS!
#2564 [19:59] <Tu13es> hmfph
#2565 [19:59] <ConMan8> oh no
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#2567 [19:59] <ConMan8> It's him
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#2569 [19:59] <Goose> who is who?
#2570 [19:59] <aetherian> whoa what
#2571 [20:00] <Kealper> one of the chanops who never talks lol
#2572 [20:00] <aetherian> I thought lg was dead or something
#2573 [20:00] <Goose> maybe braindead..
#2574 [20:00] <Goose> lol
#2575 [20:00] <Goose> :D
#2576 [20:00] <aetherian> be nice to the poor zombie moderator
#2577 [20:00] <Kealper> i think he just hangs out in #minecraft and forgets about is
#2578 [20:00] <Kealper> us*
#2579 [20:00] <aetherian> he's /un/dead
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#2581 [20:01] <Goose> maybe he eats brains
#2582 [20:01] <Goose> but then i can just kill him with my gold sword
#2583 [20:01] <aetherian> maybe he's probably rolling his eyes at us right now
#2584 [20:01] <Kealper> lol
#2585 [20:01] <aetherian> true?
#2586 [20:01] <aetherian> true.
#2587 [20:01] <Goose> or maybe he is watching animalpornography... we dont know that..
#2588 [20:02] <aetherian> eurghmblargh, I hate wrapping presents
#2589 [20:02] <aetherian> erm
#2590 [20:02] * Kealper goes to watch shows
#2590 [20:02] <aetherian> I think there's a shorter word for that, you silly goose
#2591 [20:02] <aetherian> :3
#2592 [20:02] <Kealper> FABULOUS
#2593 [20:02] <Goose> fishpr0n?
#2594 [20:02] <aetherian> close...
#2595 [20:02] <Kealper> beastpr0n?
#2596 [20:03] <Goose> aipr0n
#2597 [20:03] <aetherian> something like that...
#2598 [20:03] <Kealper> pr0nality?
#2599 [20:03] <aetherian> I can draw the best super-hero pron, sadly, it's all of sue storm.
#2600 [20:03] <aetherian> *badum tisch*
#2601 [20:03] <Kealper> lol
#2602 [20:03] <Goose> how about some humanpornography ;-)
#2603 [20:03] <aetherian> goose: that still exists?
#2604 [20:03] <Goose> i knew that...
#2605 [20:04] <Goose> (a)
#2606 [20:04] <aetherian> this song is awesome.
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#2608 [20:04] <aetherian> it uses a freaking kazoo
#2609 [20:04] <Goose> but u 2 guy
#2610 [20:04] <Goose> s
#2611 [20:04] <Goose> are u from sweden aswell?
#2612 [20:04] <aetherian> not I.
#2613 [20:04] <Kealper> usa
#2614 [20:04] <ConMan8> I'M FROM SWEDEN
#2615 [20:04] <Goose> ok..
#2616 [20:04] <Goose> nice
#2617 [20:04] <aetherian> born... in the USA
#2618 [20:04] <ConMan8> ...not
#2619 [20:04] <Goose> eller najs
#2620 [20:04] <ConMan8> I'm in Australia
#2621 [20:04] <Kealper> lol
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#2624 [20:05] <Goose> u silly ConMan
#2625 [20:05] <aetherian> well, I was /born/ in america
#2626 [20:05] <JonMarkGo> Is ops.txt the same as admins.txt?
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#2628 [20:05] * aetherian is away: _)+()^_(*%)(
#2628 [20:05] <Goose> *snap* no he didnt..
#2629 [20:05] <Odd> Is there a way on the main site to see how many gift codes I've bought?
#2630 [20:06] <Odd> (If I double order, I'll have troubles)
#2631 [20:06] <ConMan8> no
#2632 [20:06] <JonMarkGo> Or, how do I set myself as admin? My name is in ops.txt and admins.txt but I cant' use /follow
#2633 [20:06] <ConMan8> JonMarkGo: There's no /follow command in SMP
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#2635 [20:06] <JonMarkGo> Ah
#2636 [20:07] <JonMarkGo> So if I'm in ops.txt I have all the commands?
#2637 [20:07] * ConMan8 nods
#2637 [20:08] <JonMarkGo> Sweet, thanks
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#2641 [20:11] <Tu13es> huh, weird. on one of my macs, the folder gets created in /Library/Application Support/ but not on the other mac.
#2642 [20:11] <Tu13es> bbq
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#2645 [20:13] <Goose> hey
#2646 [20:13] <Goose> whats the big diffrence between hard and easy?
#2647 [20:14] <Tu13es> oh, hm, when i do save-all does it end up in the "world" directory?
#2648 [20:14] <DFC> alright i tried buying the game again
#2649 [20:14] <Tu13es> on a dedicated server
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#2654 [20:18] <Zoomy> Hello?
#2655 [20:19] <Goose> yo
#2656 [20:19] <ConMan8> Greetings and stuff
#2657 [20:19] <Zoomy> Ey, uhm... I just recently got a code a few minutes ago from my friend, a gift code, but for some reason, it won't work.
#2658 [20:20] <ConMan8> So many people are buying the game at the same time, it causes lag
#2659 [20:20] <Zoomy> So the database itself has yet to register that the code was bought, and able to be used? o.o
#2660 [20:21] <ConMan8> Goose: The difficulty levels increase the damage you take from monsters, and their health, and how much food heals you, and it's rumoured to affect the amount of monsters that spawn
#2661 [20:21] <ConMan8> Zoomy: Probably
#2662 [20:21] <Zoomy> Huh... Well, alright. I know the game goes into beta tomorrow, and my friend wanted to buy it for me before then, so that way, the updates would still be free from then on. o.o
#2663 [20:22] <ConMan8> The game goes into beta two hours and twenty-one minutes ago apparently
#2664 [20:22] <ConMan8> Heh..
#2665 [20:22] <Zoomy> Wait, what? o.o
#2666 [20:22] <Zoomy> It's supposed to change on the twentieth. O.o
#2667 [20:22] <ConMan8> lol
#2668 [20:22] <ConMan8> Yeah, it's the 20th in Sweden now
#2669 [20:23] <ConMan8> It'll be beta within 21 hours and 37 minutes
#2670 [20:23] <Zoomy> Wait, so I still have time, or what?
#2671 [20:23] <GoMySQL> There a changelog for the beta release?
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#2673 [20:24] <ConMan8> We have no idea of what's in beta and no way of knowing until Notch tells us or the update comes out
#2674 [20:24] <GoMySQL> He needs to get better about that..
#2675 [20:24] <Zoomy> Also, my other questin is this. Do I put the dashes in the code, or do I just type the numbers and letters only?
#2676 [20:24] <GoMySQL> amongst MANY other things, of course.
#2677 [20:25] <ConMan8> I think you put dashes in, Zoomy
#2678 [20:25] <GoMySQL> Hmm.. his purchase license is going to scare a lot of people away.
#2679 [20:25] <Zoomy> Alright. I kept on tryin' that, but yeah.
#2680 [20:25] <ConMan8> GoMySQL: How d'you mean? o.O
#2681 [20:26] <GoMySQL> no free updates past the 20th <major revisions>. So people are going to buy beta and have to pay for an upgrade to final.. then the next major release.
#2682 [20:26] <ConMan8> Possibly.
#2683 [20:26] <ConMan8> Mojang's lawyers don't like the 'get all future updates free' bit
#2684 [20:27] <ConMan8> It's likely that beta users will get the first release
#2685 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Wait what?
#2686 [20:27] <ConMan8> Hi GreyVulpine
#2687 [20:27] <GoMySQL> He's going to completely opposite of any other game company insofar as updates go.
#2688 [20:27] <GoMySQL> that's gonna bite him in the ass.
#2689 [20:27] <Zoomy> It will.
#2690 [20:27] <ConMan8> It will?
#2691 [20:28] <ConMan8> It's ensuring that people don't get expansion packs and addons and new games based off Minecraft for free
#2692 [20:28] <Zoomy> I mean, normally, updates for most games are free, so players already will feel alienated by that, but a lot of players will see the "no more free updates", and be irritated.
#2693 [20:28] <GoMySQL> I wouldn't buy a game that I'd have to pay for again to get possibly major bug fixes and patches. UNLESS it's an expansion.
#2694 [20:28] <ConMan8> Notch says big fixes are free
#2695 [20:28] <ConMan8> He said that.. somewhere
#2696 [20:28] <GoMySQL> But there again, bug fixes and patches should always be separate from expansions.
#2697 [20:28] <Zoomy> If anything, once he does this, the mod community is going to explode, and people will stop paying for the game updates, and just play with it themselves.
#2698 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2175441966/minecraft-beta-december-20-2010
#2699 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Buying the game during beta will include all updates up until release, of course, and bug patches will be free.
#2700 [20:29] <DFC> YEAHHHHH
#2701 [20:29] <GoMySQL> I hope he eventually move to a language other than java for the server-side, at the very least.
#2702 [20:29] <DFC> finally i got minecraft
#2703 [20:29] <GoMySQL> I can live with the client being java, but the server? grrr.
#2704 [20:29] <ConMan8> Notch codes in Java.. live with it
#2705 [20:30] <ConMan8> >_>
#2706 [20:30] <GoMySQL> As long as he keeps going down the expansion route and doesn't go down the "nickle and dime" route of mini-expansions
#2707 [20:30] <Zoomy> Hey, DFC, how did you get the thing? o.o Buy it yourself, or code?
#2708 [20:30] <ConMan8> If you sdon't like it make your own or something
#2709 [20:30] <GoMySQL> Doesn't mean he should continue using it for a server-side engine.
#2710 [20:30] <kyle6513> I think that the reason for this update nonsense is that notch doesn't want to run out of money hahaha
#2711 [20:30] <kyle6513> without having to have a subscription service
#2712 [20:30] <ConMan8> GoMySQL: Do you even know if Notch can code in other languages? :P
#2713 [20:31] <GoMySQL> He doesn't have to. He's the boss. He tells someone else to get on it.
#2714 [20:31] <ConMan8> kyle6513: His lawyers don't want him to run out of money
#2715 [20:31] <feenyx> I'm pretty confident he could learn
#2716 [20:31] <kyle6513> ConMan8, that. haha
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#2718 [20:31] <ConMan8> Yeah, but his decision is his decision, not yours
#2719 [20:31] <feenyx> the problem is in coding it in something that's available on any operating system and any browser
#2720 [20:31] <GoMySQL> No shit, sherlock.
#2721 [20:31] <kyle6513> GoMySQL, that includes paying someone to do something he's already made just because people don't like his language
#2722 [20:31] * ConMan8 slaps GoMySQL around a bit with a large trout
#2722 [20:32] <feenyx> ofcourse you could always create your own API, but that'd take heaps of time
#2723 [20:32] <DFC> buy it myself
#2724 [20:32] <kyle6513> exactly, if you don't like it, java is an easy enough language to crack open
#2725 [20:32] <DFC> well the bank screwed up bad
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#2727 [20:32] <Zoomy> I'm just trying to get this dumb code to work. x.x
#2728 [20:33] <DFC> oh wow
#2729 [20:33] <DFC> sand world is sandy
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#2733 [20:33] <kyle6513> DFC, indeed, and theres no trees in sight.
#2734 [20:33] <kyle6513> there are desert trees y'know notch
#2735 [20:33] <DFC> i see trees
#2736 [20:34] <kyle6513> DFC, growing on dirt
#2737 [20:34] <GoMySQL> This isn't an issue of "don't like the language", it's just not right for the job. A single user logging in chews up ~40-60mb of memory, if i recall the metrics properly. But that's java for you. A big, fat ugly hose-beast :p
#2738 [20:34] <DFC> luckly
#2739 [20:34] <DFC> no
#2740 [20:34] <DFC> normal land
#2741 [20:34] <DFC> away from my large sandy island
#2742 [20:34] <kyle6513> GoMySQL, then code it in another language, you can open java up, its not a pre-compiled language
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#2744 [20:34] <kyle6513> DFC, exactly haha
#2745 [20:34] <DFC> oh fuck
#2746 [20:34] <DFC> zombies?
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#2748 [20:34] <DFC> why do i hear zombies
#2749 [20:34] <kyle6513> DFC, RUUU- sSSSSSSS
#2750 [20:35] <kyle6513> DFC, probably a dungeon near-underneath you
#2751 [20:35] <GoMySQL> And then have to reverse engineer it every time he releases another one? Meh.
#2752 [20:35] <kyle6513> GoMySQL, not reverse engineering.
#2753 [20:36] <kyle6513> reverse engineering takes a LONG time. re-writing code in another language, not so much
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#2760 [20:40] <DFC> yeahhhhh
#2761 [20:40] <DFC> coal
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#2763 [20:44] <Mikau> Anyone know if there's any mods that take care of the infinite fires glitch?
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#2765 [20:46] <DFC> going to have to spend the night on a pillar :\
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#2767 [20:49] <aetherian> that's the lame way
#2768 [20:50] <aetherian> and mik, since when is that a glitch?
#2769 [20:50] <DFC> well its not my fault my starting ground is lame
#2770 [20:50] <aetherian> yeaaahhhhh
#2771 [20:50] <aetherian> su-ure
#2772 [20:50] <DFC> but i still have coal
#2773 [20:50] <DFC> that means something
#2774 [20:50] <aetherian> then you dig a hole in the ground, and place torches.
#2775 [20:51] <DFC> nice vein i hit while digging for stone
#2776 [20:51] <aetherian> I've hit a vein of over 50 coal :)
#2777 [20:51] <aetherian> sadly, not at the very beginning :'(
#2778 [20:51] <DFC> still i want to turn this sandy plain into my house
#2779 [20:52] <aetherian> nonono
#2780 [20:52] <DFC> complete with mah very own swimming pool
#2781 [20:52] <aetherian> build a log cabbin in a forest
#2782 [20:52] <aetherian> and make an open fire in the house :)
#2783 [20:52] <DFC> i build a log cabin on my sandy plain
#2784 [20:52] <aetherian> and make a nice open fire for chestnuts inside it :)
#2785 [20:53] <DFC> why do those green things look like penises
#2786 [20:53] <aetherian> OH MY GOD EXPLODING PENISES
#2787 [20:53] <aetherian> um
#2788 [20:53] <aetherian> because notch is not as artistically inclined as others
#2789 [20:54] <aetherian> :)
#2790 [20:54] <DFC> so i guess they must be famous
#2791 [20:54] <DFC> these exploding penises
#2792 [20:54] <DFC> i wonder if i can make diamond arrows
#2793 [20:55] <DFC> so how do i harvest clouds
#2794 [20:56] <DFC> do i need a pail or shovel or something
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#2796 [21:01] <aetherian> hey cia
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#2800 [21:17] <aetherian> hey conor
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#2802 [21:21] <ConMan8> It's Con D:<
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#2806 [21:23] <aetherian> connie
#2807 [21:23] <aetherian> mmk
#2808 [21:24] <Con> :|
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#2810 [21:24] <Con> BAN HIM
#2811 [21:24] <aetherian> <3
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#2813 [21:25] <aetherian> hey frogs
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#2815 [21:25] <aetherian> brb
#2816 [21:25] <frogaincia> ok
#2817 [21:33] <aetherian> heh
#2818 [21:34] * aetherian is away: @_@_;_;_:<
#2818 [21:34] <frogaincia> hey
#2819 [21:35] <frogaincia> i was wondering if theres anyway to download my minecraft world from the in browser version so i can play it on the downloaded version
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#2822 [21:37] <Roarimadinosaur> Anyone know how to make a fence?
#2823 [21:38] <Roarimadinosaur> ???
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#2825 [21:38] <Roarimadinosaur> Is anyone on here to answer my question?
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#2830 [21:46] <kidovate> Hey Everyone!
#2831 [21:46] <kidovate> I had a qustion
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#2833 [21:47] <kidovate> How/can I make a minecart station where the train will stop until i press a button?
#2834 [21:47] <Tu13es> how the hell do i light a furnace?
#2835 [21:48] <frogaincia> i know for the furnace, you need to put either coal or wood in the bottom part. coal lasts longer though
#2836 [21:48] <kidovate> Put some coll in the bottom
#2837 [21:48] <kidovate> yeah
#2838 [21:48] <kidovate> guys can you answer my question :)
#2839 [21:49] <kidovate> do you know?
#2840 [21:49] <frogaincia> hm im not sure, i just started playing, but you can check the minecraft wiki, they have like everthing there
#2841 [21:50] <kidovate> kk
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#2844 [21:55] <Con> kidovate: It might be possible to build a stupidly complex redstone thing or you can get the minecart mania mod
#2845 [21:56] <kidovate> NIce :)
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#2847 [21:56] <kidovate> That's what I was trying to do
#2848 [21:56] <kidovate> Lol
#2849 [21:56] <kidovate> D33tz can you help?
#2850 [21:56] <d33tz> help wit what>
#2851 [21:56] <d33tz> with
#2852 [21:56] <kidovate> How/can I make a minecart station where the train will stop until i press a button?
#2853 [21:56] <d33tz> Lol I don't own the game yet
#2854 [21:57] <kidovate> nuce
#2855 [21:57] <kidovate> niiice
#2856 [21:57] <Con> It's stupidly complex, just get the Minecart Mania mod >_>
#2857 [21:57] <kidovate> what changes are there in it?
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#2859 [21:58] <d33tz> I just need to know how to check if I entered the right e-mail for my account ^_^
#2860 [21:58] <d33tz> How would I go around doing that?
#2861 [21:58] <Con> You can't sorry
#2862 [21:58] <Con> kidovate: There's a page in the wiki for it
#2863 [21:59] <wut> how many hours/day do you guys play minecraft?
#2864 [22:00] <d33tz> 0
#2865 [22:00] <wut> yeah right
#2866 [22:00] <kidovate> A log
#2867 [22:00] <kidovate> A lot
#2868 [22:00] <d33tz> I dont own it derp
#2869 [22:00] <kidovate> :O
#2870 [22:00] <Con> I don't play it unless there's an update, and I only play that to familiarise myself with the new things
#2871 [22:00] <wut> Con: did you get bored of it?
#2872 [22:01] <Con> no
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#2874 [22:01] <Con> If it's played then it reduces my ability to do other things
#2875 [22:01] <Con> :|
#2876 [22:01] <Con> Minecrack
#2877 [22:01] <wut> :(
#2878 [22:01] <wut> it's true
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#2880 [22:03] <Pawch> whoops
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#2882 [22:07] <Con> We have no idea and no way of knowing until Mojang tell us or it happens
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#2888 [22:21] <Kazter> admins
#2889 [22:21] <Kazter> i have a question
#2890 [22:21] <DFC> hmmm
#2891 [22:21] <DFC> the max distance between 2 ladders is one block right?
#2892 [22:21] <Kazter> When it reaches 12:00 am here
#2893 [22:21] <Kazter> will beta be out?
#2894 [22:21] <Kazter> or does it go by notch's time?
#2895 [22:24] <Kazter> Afk admins
#2896 [22:24] <Kazter> wow.
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#2900 [22:25] <Xavier> what's the multiplayer servers channel again>
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#2903 [22:28] <DHam> Does anybody know what time beta comes out?
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#2905 [22:28] <Kealper> man vlc just anally raped my computer....gg
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#2913 [22:48] <lemon-rev> anyword on version yet ?
#2914 [22:48] <lemon-rev> just got home
#2915 [22:51] <aetherian> ...
#2916 [22:51] <aetherian> I hate chemistry
#2917 [22:51] * aetherian is away: IHC
#2917 [22:53] * aetherian is back (gone 00:02:01)
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#2918 [22:55] <noodude> hello
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#2920 [22:55] <noodude> can someone give me the most current persister link?
#2921 [22:55] <aetherian> hello
#2922 [22:55] <aetherian> persister?
#2923 [22:55] <noodude> hi :D
#2924 [22:55] <noodude> unless its no longer required for saving your stuff when you quit the game
#2925 [22:56] <aetherian> it's not...
#2926 [22:56] <noodude> oh wow
#2927 [22:56] <aetherian> how old is /that/ version?
#2928 [22:56] <noodude> i played minecraft some time ago
#2929 [22:56] <aetherian> woooowww
#2930 [22:56] <noodude> i don't really know :P
#2931 [22:56] <aetherian> guess what
#2932 [22:56] <noodude> ?
#2933 [22:57] <aetherian> you can jump now too.
#2934 [22:57] <noodude> !
#2935 [22:57] <aetherian> and he isn't writing it with a quill by a candle anymore.
#2936 [22:57] <noodude> lol
#2937 [22:57] <noodude> well thats really cool
#2938 [22:57] <noodude> thanks
#2939 [22:57] <noodude> i just spent like 2 hours looking for the newest version
#2940 [22:57] <noodude> just to find out its no longer used
#2941 [22:57] <aetherian> lawl
#2942 [22:57] <noodude> its ok though
#2943 [22:58] <aetherian> guess what.
#2944 [22:58] <aetherian> now
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#2946 [22:58] <noodude> ?
#2947 [22:58] <Xavier> if I have a paid acc, can I use it on 2 different computers?
#2948 [22:58] <noodude> cool
#2949 [22:58] <aetherian> yes... uh...
#2950 [22:58] <aetherian> is it ex-avier, or zavier?
#2951 [22:58] <Xavier> like
#2952 [22:59] <Xavier> czavier
#2953 [22:59] <Xavier> ex-avier without the e
#2954 [22:59] <aetherian> cun- I mean, cuh-zavier.
#2955 [22:59] <aetherian> those h's and n's
#2956 [22:59] <aetherian> =\
#2957 [22:59] <noodude> well thanks for the help :D
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#2959 [23:00] <aetherian> aww
#2960 [23:03] <DFC> i wonder what happens if i put gunpowder and coal in the furnace
#2961 [23:03] <DFC> a hole in my house is the last thing i need right now :P
#2962 [23:05] <aetherian> haha
#2963 [23:05] <aetherian> go hug a creeper...
#2964 [23:05] <DFC> there is zombies in my mine though
#2965 [23:05] <DFC> i hear water and zombies
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#2968 [23:06] <aetherian> there is zombies?
#2969 [23:07] <DFC> but first this red ore stuff
#2970 [23:07] <aetherian> I know what to do
#2971 [23:07] <aetherian> get tnt
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#2974 [23:09] <Mikau> So, there's no mods for getting rid of trees burning forever?
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#2976 [23:10] <aetherian> ...
#2977 [23:10] <aetherian> it...
#2978 [23:10] <itsFuZe> Yerro?
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#2980 [23:10] <Mikau> I only found a few that stopped trees from burning period.
#2981 [23:10] <aetherian> it's not a glitch, though
#2982 [23:10] <Mikau> Do not want. :(
#2983 [23:10] <itsFuZe> I haz a problem.
#2984 [23:10] <aetherian> ooh
#2985 [23:10] <DFC> oh my
#2986 [23:10] <aetherian> you haz a problem.
#2987 [23:10] <DFC> blue ore?
#2988 [23:10] <Mikau> I want trees to catch fire, burn away, and be gone.
#2989 [23:10] <DFC> is that diamond
#2990 [23:10] <Mikau> :(
#2991 [23:10] <aetherian> blue ore 'o_O
#2992 [23:10] <aetherian> I think it's diamond, yes
#2993 [23:10] <itsFuZe> I was playing a server earlier on, then the link wont take me to the server but it takes me to single player?
#2994 [23:11] <aetherian> ?
#2995 [23:11] <itsFuZe> Here is the link; #MineCraftHelp
#2996 [23:11] <itsFuZe> Oops
#2997 [23:11] <aetherian> rawfl
#2998 [23:11] <itsFuZe> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=e9e0cec526e4572d1e947d154a829c45
#2999 [23:11] <aetherian> ohh
#3000 [23:11] <aetherian> classic?
#3001 [23:12] <itsFuZe> it takes me to normal single player or what ever it's called
#3002 [23:12] <aetherian> probs jus' changed, just go to the servers list.
#3003 [23:12] <itsFuZe> that was the link to the server.
#3004 [23:12] <itsFuZe> The server isn't on there anymore, it happen earlier
#3005 [23:13] <aetherian> ...
#3006 [23:13] <itsFuZe> idk man.
#3007 [23:13] <itsFuZe> it was called
#3008 [23:13] <itsFuZe> FLATLAND FREEBUILD
#3009 [23:13] <itsFuZe> in caps
#3010 [23:13] <DFC> oh my
#3011 [23:13] <DFC> a cave system
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#3013 [23:14] <DFC> complete with skeletons and zombies
#3014 [23:14] <DFC> urghh
#3015 [23:14] <aetherian> hehehe
#3016 [23:15] <aetherian> dfc, try the nether.
#3017 [23:15] <Mikau> LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS! OH MY!
#3018 [23:15] <aetherian> =o
#3019 [23:15] <DFC> oh tis gold
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#3021 [23:15] <aetherian> I read the entire series of wizard of oz
#3022 [23:15] <aetherian> up until the original author quit/died
#3023 [23:15] <aetherian> and the new author stunk
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#3026 [23:16] <aetherian> |=:\
#3027 [23:17] <aetherian> ...fail hat
#3028 [23:17] <aetherian> at least on ychatr
#3029 [23:18] <JonMarkGo> HOw do I set myself as admin?
#3030 [23:21] <DFC> oh yeah
#3031 [23:21] <DFC> diamon pick
#3032 [23:21] <aetherian> woot
#3033 [23:21] <aetherian> uh jon
#3034 [23:22] <aetherian> are you hosting the server?
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#3037 [23:23] <aetherian> ==o
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#3039 [23:24] <Kealper> most...interesting...
#3040 [23:24] <Kealper> ok so...i guess i'm not using vlc anymore...these last few updates have been nothing but trouble
#3041 [23:24] <sinedeviance> Kealper: what happened?
#3042 [23:24] <aetherian> hehehe
#3043 [23:25] * sinedeviance uses VLC
#3043 [23:25] <sinedeviance> Kealper: also, what OS? O_o
#3044 [23:25] <Kealper> 7 x64
#3045 [23:25] <aetherian> hexacore computer?
#3046 [23:25] <aetherian> :D
#3047 [23:25] <Kealper> and it's causing explorer.exe and random programs to crash
#3048 [23:26] <Kealper> happens when it somehow fails to go fullscreen properly, stops responding, then my chat programs crash....
#3049 [23:26] <Kealper> oh, and my cursor only shows up on my second monitor...
#3050 [23:26] <aetherian> ow
#3051 [23:26] <aetherian> *($
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#3054 [23:28] <sinedeviance> Kealper: damn, that sucks. i can send you an older version if you want?
#3055 [23:29] <sinedeviance> i have a release from a few months agio
#3056 [23:29] <sinedeviance> ago*
#3057 [23:29] <sinedeviance> doesnt seem to be affected (i am also on 7 x64)
#3058 [23:29] <Kealper> meh, WMP will work i guess
#3059 [23:30] <Kealper> and yea, the last update it had issues with it's own gui, and this update seems to have issues with other programs' guis >.>
#3060 [23:31] <sinedeviance> :\
#3061 [23:31] <sinedeviance> MPC?
#3062 [23:31] <sinedeviance> always a good stand-by
#3063 [23:31] <Kealper> i've only got wmp/winamp/vlc on this computer :S
#3064 [23:31] <sinedeviance> Kealper: MPC is free. http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/
#3065 [23:32] <Kealper> all i use vlc for is just watching downloaded tv shows anyways, wmp works
#3066 [23:32] <sinedeviance> it's like VLC, but made for windows
#3067 [23:32] <Kealper> and yea, i used to use mpc before vlc got awesome
#3068 [23:32] <sinedeviance> ah
#3069 [23:34] <Kealper> damnit...i have to restart to fix the cursor problem....
#3070 [23:34] * Kealper throws on a documentary and goes to bed
#3070 [23:34] <Kealper> too lazy to restart now
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#3073 [23:36] <Kealper> aaaawwww yeaaaaaahh
#3074 [23:36] <Kealper> disabling second monitor and reenabling fixed it
#3075 [23:37] <Kealper> wow...WMP actually has a better picture than vlc...
#3076 [23:38] <Kealper> it's less pixely...more smooth
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#3080 [23:52] <mib_9mmpxz> Hello i am trying to buy minecraft but keeps giving me a error
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#3082 [23:53] <aetherian> &^%*^((
#3083 [23:53] <mib_9mmpxz> how can i buy it
#3084 [23:53] <aetherian> god-freaking-everyone is asking that
#3085 [23:53] <mib_9mmpxz> im sorry
#3086 [23:53] <mib_9mmpxz> but im trying to get it as a gift for christmas and keeps erroring out
#3087 [23:53] <aetherian> no you aren't. you are rolling your eyes at me.
#3088 [23:53] <aetherian> '@_@_@
#3089 [23:54] <mib_9mmpxz> Any way to get it working or no? is it jsut the website thats messed up?
#3090 [23:55] <mib_9mmpxz> so no?
#3091 [23:55] <Pursuit3> I need people who are experienced with the minecraft server txt files and modificiation of servers to help me on a PvP based Minecraft Server
#3092 [23:55] <Pursuit3> :) anyone interested?
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#3099 [23:59] <TrekkiesUnite118> hi